[12:00] <NthDegree> theapoc ask in #vmware
[12:00] <avalente> keito: thanks
[12:01] <jme> yeah, I wouldn't really know about that hardware
[12:01] <Ensiferum> Jack_Smirnoff: had nothing to compare my results with, so didnt know if i was seing normal results
[12:01] <lido> I installed Ubuntu Server without probs - all is working- only prob is that I have to boot in recovery mode because as soon as the non-recovery starts to load (terminal interface - no GUI) the text becomes all unreadable - any idea on this?
[12:01] <theapoc> NthDegree: nope, nobody in there can tell me.
[12:01] <freebox> Somebody Knows if exist some MSN Messenger Gateway to control my users? (Open or Free). I find messengerpolicy but is $$$$
[12:01] <qwertybob> does pasting my xorg.conf help?
[12:01] <jme> qwertybob: you could try looking at the xorg.conf that the other live CDs are using, and seeing what they're doing...
[12:01] <qwertybob> i get also sometimes a garbled screen if at all
[12:01] <NthDegree> theapoc it'll be in /etc or /var/local i think
[12:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> Ensiferum: Im on a shuuush XP box at the moment so I cound't just run that in term eh?
[12:01] <jme> but I don't know about that particular hardware
[12:01] <qwertybob> thats a good idea
[12:02] <theapoc> NthDegree: ty I found it
[12:02] <jme> ideally, you'd use a Debian-based live CD
[12:02] <pkelly> hello
[12:02] <qwertybob> jme: im in kanotix right now
[12:02] <qwertybob> how do i know which is the right xorg.conf?
[12:02] <lido> anyone using ispconfig?
[12:03] <vlt> Hello. I have installed (K)ubuntu Dapper and OpenOffice. I added a font (system wide) and it's shown in the system settings list. But when I want to use the font OpenOffice says it wasn't installed.
[12:03] <vlt> I restarted OpenOffice but the font doesn't appear.
[12:03] <jme> what xorg.confs are available, qwertybob?
[12:03] <qwertybob> well im live so the one in /etc is kubuntus
[12:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> brb people.. booting into Ub
[12:04] <NthDegree> vlt i think there is some data to refresh or something
[12:04] <selfharm> I am trying to restore lost harddrive space. I have a 300 gig drive that only something like 100 gigs is being recognized. I want to format the entire drive, and wipe everything on it. I tried paritionmagic, which also only saw about 100 gigs. is there a command that i can put in the "boot" parameter of the ubuntu live cd to format the entire disk for ntfs ?
[12:04] <lido> Is there a file (conf file) that needs to be modified in order to tell the system what resolution to boot in to? (non-GUI) - just the text interface...
[12:04] <qwertybob> jme: nevermind ill just go by terminal
[12:04] <NthDegree> selfharm, ubuntu doesn't support NTFS (that's a windows piece-o-crap)
[12:04] <neopsyche> wierd, my gprs seems to time out if i dont immediately connect to a channel!
[12:04] <jme> sorry, don't know which one would be in use
[12:05] <selfharm> NthDegree, how about fat32, i just want it formatted.
[12:05] <qwertybob> jme: its using the kanotix one now
[12:05] <abo> I have a problem with grub not starting (error 17 , which means cannot mount disk) after I moved/resized my disk
[12:05] <qwertybob> jme: i see only xf86config-4 there
[12:05] <vlt> NthDegree: Which data? I even rebootet ...
[12:05] <NthDegree> well selfharm my best advice is fdisk (it only recognises 9GB but when you partition and tell it to use all space and then format it recognises it all
[12:06] <jme> qwertybob: do you know if that distro uses X.Org or XFree86?
[12:06] <jme> they're not entirely compatible...
[12:06] <selfharm> Nth, thanks, ill look at that
[12:06] <qwertybob> jme: it must use xorg, but it has XF86config-4
[12:06] <DVDx> hey guys i get some probs with samba
[12:06] <qwertybob> i found it
[12:06] <jme> good
[12:07] <qwertybob> jme: one big difference is in kanotix all th emodelines
[12:07] <NthDegree> selfharm a Windows XP CD-ROM should help then simply reformat it as ext3 if or when you install ubuntu
[12:07] <jme> modelines?
[12:07] <gatekeeper> DVDx: ask your question
[12:07] <jme> I haven't even heard of kanotix -- not sure how much help I can be!
[12:07] <NthDegree> if you don't install the windows, i'm sure getting the CD off warez just to help partition your drive won't get you in any trouble
[12:07] <bikini> i'm ordering an nvidia geforce 6800 video card, it has dual dvi ports. is it easy to set up a dual monitor display?
[12:07] <bill[1] > is there anyway to get subtitles to show up in mplayer32?
[12:08] <bill[1] > NthDegree, nice advocation of warez there lol.
[12:08] <qwertybob> jme: thats ok, i need to copy that file and edit ubuntus xorg
[12:08] <selfharm> Nth, windows installation cd is also only seeing 100 gig of it. I think i lost the other 200g during dapper intallation a couple of days ago
[12:08] <NthDegree> hmmmm
[12:08] <DVDx> just pated into the paste bin
[12:08] <DVDx> pasted
[12:08] <NthDegree> windows 98 fdisk is wierd but usually partitions correctly so that should work
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> You dont need warez to partition a drive..  Ultimate Boot CD has all the tools you need.  Free..
[12:09] <gatekeeper> URL is?
[12:09] <bill[1] > NthDegree, does that version have support for that big of harddrives?
[12:09] <zcat[1] > ultimatebootcd.com iirc..
[12:09] <DVDx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17959
[12:09] <jme> qwertybob: just make sure to back up!
[12:09] <jme> it might be more of a matter of merging in changes
[12:09] <NthDegree> it supports my 80GB harddisk and a friend who had to do a 600GB one
[12:09] <qwertybob> jme: how can i get modeline output in ubuntu?
[12:10] <jme> haven't heard of modeline, sorry
[12:10] <qwertybob> there is a command, cant remember it
[12:10] <qwertybob> its for the monitor
[12:10] <qwertybob> i think thats my problem
[12:10] <DVDx> i can't remove or reinstall
[12:11] <PanicFo> has anyone of you installed beep media player?
[12:11] <zcat[1] > once it's up, both XP and dapper easily find the other drive though..
[12:11] <kaning> i have
[12:12] <PanicFo> i keep getting dependency errors :(
[12:12] <kaning> installed beep
[12:12] <PanicFo> any ideas?
[12:12] <Sanne> qwertybob: I don't know if it shows modlines, but do you perhaps mean xvidtune? The "Show" button shows some output if started from the terminal.
[12:13] <zcat[1] > sounds like your sources.list needs cleaning up.
[12:13] <zcat[1] > make sure it has the four main repos, from a reliable source, then apt-get update and try again
[12:13] <Wodger> are any setting in xvidtune supposed to stick?
[12:14] <DVDx> zcat[1] , me?
[12:14] <PanicFo> i dunno which ones are the right ones :/ <-- total newbie
[12:14] <zcat[1] > DVDx: PanicFo, dependency errors installing beep-media-player
[12:14] <DVDx> ahh kewl ;)
[12:14] <zcat[1] > !sourceomatic
[12:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about sourceomatic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:15] <epimer> i know that to determine what programs start on start-up using the Sessions menu...but is it possible to set a workspace for each program to start on?
[12:15] <Sanne> Wodger: no, I don't think they do, perhaps that's what's the show button is for. Maybe you have to put this line into the xorg config file.
[12:15] <zcat[1] > !source-o-matic
[12:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:15] <zcat[1] > PanicFo: go there, build a nuce clean sources list :)
[12:15] <riddlebox> is there any way to tell ubuntu to not update anything with the kernel?
[12:15] <zcat[1] > *nice
[12:15] <PanicFo> i support windows for a living but im like a fish out of water in this linux area im afraid
[12:15] <javi> hello, what about nerolinux?
[12:15] <PanicFo> uh thanks ^^
[12:15] <PanicFo> will do
[12:16] <gatekeeper> DVDx: looks like a bug - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/9208
[12:16] <zcat[1] > PanicFo: you didn't use automatix did you :)
[12:16] <Wodger> i guessed so shame really as setting video settings is a gui sort of thing really
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> How did you try to insall Beep Media Player?
[12:16] <PanicFo> nope ^
[12:16] <DVDx> how can i atleast remove it so it won't display the update icon
[12:17] <Sanne> Wodger: I think xvidtune is from the old days where gui config tools where not so common.
[12:17] <bikini> anyone have a dual monitor display?
[12:17] <PanicFo> well all these nifty tutorials mention repositories to add to the sources.list so there are quite a few new ones in there now
[12:17] <zcat[1] > PanicFo: good point; how'd you try to install it. apt-get install/synaptic, or downloading a package from somewhere?
[12:18] <PanicFo> the bmpx website has a tutorial that i followed
[12:18] <PanicFo> and failed miserably
[12:18] <PanicFo> and synaptics failed miserably too
[12:18] <PanicFo> maybe because of too many repositories but i dont know for sure
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Are you trying to play BMP's....? BAd bad bad
[12:18] <gatekeeper> DVDx: if apt-get remove --purge samba doesn't work then I don't know, may be someone else can help
[12:18] <PanicFo> lol noo
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> view
[12:18] <Ensiferum> hum, how did i close x again?
[12:18] <zcat[1] > clean up your sources list, a few of the repos don't play nicely together; then apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade and hopefully everything will be sane again..
[12:19] <bill[1] > is there a way to move ctrl alt backspace to some other key combination for x? I've accidently hit it a few times =(
[12:19] <zcat[1] > then apt-get install beep-media-player  should work nicely.
[12:19] <sito> algun espaol?
[12:19] <zcat[1] > !es
[12:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:19] <void^> .. how, can you hit ctrl-alt-del accidentally? .
[12:19] <johlin> Is there a way to write a image of a folder of my harddrive that I can pass qemu to get some stuff I need over there?
[12:19] <Wally> hello. I am just starting with linux and i need some help. Is it possible to install dapper drake on a VIA 8237 motherboard with a SATA HD? The live-cd installer cant find the disk. Thanks in advance.
[12:19] <void^> or ctrl-alt-backspace..
[12:19] <Wodger> well as i can't find a gui way to ajust the postion of the display in ubuntu it what i've been useing,
[12:19] <sito> gracias
[12:20] <Wodger> the screen is a inch or two shifted to the right
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> johlin: FOr use in WIndows?
[12:20] <DVDx> no go =\
[12:20] <johlin> Jack_Sparrow: yes, I have windows running in qemu
[12:20] <PanicFo> which ones of the sources mentioned should i pick?
[12:20] <Wodger> so wastbin and logout are cliped
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[12:20] <zcat[1] > Wodger: just adjust it on the monitor. That's what I do..
[12:20] <PanicFo> only the top ones?
[12:20] <Ensiferum> Wally: the hd or the cd-rom?
[12:21] <gatekeeper> DVDx: if you read on a bit he explains how he removes broken links, creats new links and gets it going
[12:21] <Wally> ensiferum: the hd
[12:21] <zcat[1] > PanicFo: whatever you want; probably the main ones + seveas + anything else you really want like aMule or wine...
[12:21] <Ensiferum> Wally: uhuh, bad
[12:21] <epimer> am i missing something, or do you have to do something else to a .png before it can show up in the menu when trying to change an icon?
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> wally, I am running UB on SATA drives here, but some sata are a problem
[12:21] <gatekeeper> !pastbin > gatekeeper
[12:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastbin  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:21] <Ensiferum> Jack_Sparrow: i would say a BIG problem
[12:21] <zool2005> hi all
[12:22] <Wally> i visited the VIA website
[12:22] <Ensiferum> or rather
[12:22] <DVDx> i'm reading now slowly ;)
[12:22] <Ensiferum> linux has a big problem with SATA
[12:22] <Wally> they say support will be native in 2.6.18
[12:22] <DVDx> thanx gatekeeper
[12:22] <Ensiferum> since SATA drives are not a problem
[12:22] <epimer> both my SATA drives work fine
[12:22] <epimer> and i'm pretty clueless :)
[12:22] <Ensiferum> epimer: lucky you
[12:22] <bill[1] > all of my sata drives includng my sata dvd work fine.
[12:22] <zcat[1] > SATA is easy; just configure the bios to treat it as ordinary ATA :)
[12:22] <Ensiferum> epimer: it depends on the chipset
[12:22] <lido> Can someone tell me, in the menu.lst for grub.... there is a line that says kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/hda1 ro single..... what does the 'single' designation mean?
[12:22] <Wally> http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=71754&enterthread=y --- there
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> SATA standards are not as tight as they should be,  too many mfg have tweaked sata
[12:22] <Ensiferum> lido: single user
[12:23] <PanicFo> how about.. the top ones and then "ubuntu supported packages" ?
[12:23] <zool2005> I changed the order of HDD drives in my box and now grub points to the wrong place when I install a new kernel, I know how to correct it manually but can I edit the default settings?
[12:23] <PanicFo> sounds good to a newcomer like myself ^^
[12:23] <lido> thank you ensiferum :) - couldn't find that for the life of me
[12:23] <PanicFo> the less shit to break the better i always say
[12:23] <Ensiferum> zool2005: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:23] <Wally> zcat: i cant tell if you are joking or not
[12:24] <zool2005> Ensiferum, but that is altered by the update manager when the new kernel is installed, where does menu.lst read from?
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Sarcasm is wasted on IRC
[12:24] <drummer> Running Breezy and need some help getting it to see and use a flash drive.  Can any of you help/
[12:24] <gatekeeper> DVDx: have a look at this section, ask the others if you need more help and good luck :-) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17961
[12:24] <zcat[1] > PanicFo: all those repos are fairly safe, but I tent to avoid cypherfunk 'cos the repo is unreliable and seveas has a lot of the same stuff. Really, just pick what looks usefl.
[12:24] <Ensiferum> zool2005: huh?
[12:24] <epimer> how do i change the image used by e.g. the firefox icon in the top panel?
[12:24] <zcat[1] > *useful
[12:24] <Ensiferum> menu.lst contains your grub settings
[12:24] <Ensiferum> the list that comes up on boot
[12:24] <epimer> right click --> properties has the approprate option, but it doesn't seem to recognise the .png firefox icon i downloaded
[12:25] <zool2005> the problem is that when I install a new kernel from update manager, grub points to the wrong place
[12:25] <Ensiferum> zool2005: update-grub
[12:25] <zool2005> Ensiferum, without sounding daft, what does that do?
[12:26] <shwag> proftpd and proftpd-mysql seem to be the exact same package. Cant find any differences.
[12:26] <Ensiferum> zool2005: updates the list automatically by looking at /boot
[12:26] <Ensiferum> and now, how do i close X, need to install a driver
[12:26] <zool2005> Ensiferum, will I need to do that after each update?
[12:27] <Ensiferum> zool2005: usually it should work automagically
[12:28] <zool2005> Ensiferum, it does work automatically (I think) but grub always points to the old position of the drive and not the new one e.g. hda not hdb
[12:28] <Ensiferum> hum
[12:28] <PanicFo> what will "apt-get dist-upgrade" do?
[12:28] <Sanne> epimer: there's something here on Firefox's icon, maybe it helps you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxTipsAndTricks
[12:28] <harold> where are the logon themes stored? i want to edit mine...
[12:29] <zool2005> Ensiferum, I assume that update manager and/or reads the /boot location from somewhere?
[12:30] <Ensiferum> no idea
[12:30] <void^> zool2005: you need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst, modify the `# groot=(hdx,y)` line to reflect the correct device and re-run update-grub
[12:30] <beeblebrox> anyone here was able to activate 3d acceleration for the trident cyberblade video card???
[12:30] <zool2005> void^, thanks, I'll have a go
[12:30] <void^> zool2005: as well as `# kopt=root=/dev/hdxx` .. just browse through the file and make sure those settings are all ok
[12:30] <beeblebrox> i can't bring dri up using my trident card.
[12:31] <epimer> ty, Sanne
[12:31] <buggzero> if my GRUB is completely wacked, should I reinstall ubuntu or try to fix grub
[12:31] <void^> Ensiferum: sudo /etc/init.d/[g,k,x] dm stop
[12:31] <Jack_Sparrow> zool2005: If that fails, get the super grub disk CD it searches all drive partitions combos and tried to rebuild grub for you..
[12:31] <zool2005> void^, thanks again
[12:32] <buggzero> i tried the Super GRUB disk and it did not work
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> buggzero: same advice  Super Grub DIsk
[12:32] <r3b00t> hey guys
[12:32] <buggzero> Jack_Sparrow, I did download and try the Super GRUB Disk, it did not work
[12:32] <r3b00t> I finally got my Belkin wireless desktop card installed today
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> buggzero: Any idea on how Ubuntu got messed up?
[12:33] <void^> y'know, as long as grub runs you can boot anyway using grub's command line, it's fairly simple
[12:33] <buggzero> Jack_Sparrow, new harddrive
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> buggzero: Did you try and copy everything over or just added a new drive
[12:33] <compengi> r
[12:34] <geeksauce> is there a more graphical bootloader i can use instead of grub, or can i make grub look fancy?
[12:34] <buggzero> Jack_Sparrow, My linux drive was secondary and the windows primary, I ditched the old windows drive and installed a new drive with windows to slave, the linux drive is now master
[12:34] <Jack_Sparrow> DOes windows work?
[12:35] <buggzero> Jack_Sparrow, so technically I need to wipe the slate clean or something
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> geeksauce: Grub is the Fancy Loader..
[12:35] <ulogisk> i need some help, i just had my friend set up wlan for me at his place and it worked fine.. but now im home with my laptop and my network connections icon says its disconnected.. but when i open it, it says i have a strong signal. does anyone know how do fix this?
[12:35] <buggzero> Jack_Sparrow, It does work, but not since I restored GRUB
[12:35] <TristanT06> can anyone help me? when I have a tv connected through s-video the display on my monitor gets really bright.
[12:35] <cjones> does anybody know of the wine channels ?
[12:35] <r3b00t> I'm not a big fan of GRUB, but it gets the job done.
[12:35] <sergiol> hello
[12:35] <r3b00t> hey there
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> buggzero:  boot to floppy or cd and run fdisk /mbr to get working windows
[12:36] <sergiol> how can i know in what pacakage comes libgs.so
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> then reinstall Ubuntu
[12:36] <zool2005> void^, cheers, that seems to have done the trick. I changed the appropriate values and ran "update-grub" and now all the values have been changed in the list. Thanks again
[12:36] <buggzero> Jack_Sparrow, if I reinstall ubuntu, will it delete my old user data?
[12:36] <geeksauce> jack_sparrow:  it doesn't appear that way.  i remember back when i used mandrake, it used LILO, and it looked halfway decent.  so how is GRUB the fancy one?
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> buggzero: Yes a reinstall will knock it out.
[12:37] <void^> geeksauce: if you want to waste some time, you can add colours and a picture to grub.
[12:37] <buggzero> geeksauce: you can download and install themes to it
[12:37] <sergiol> how can i know in what pacakage comes libgs.so
[12:38] <Sanne> epimer: you're welcome. I also have to thank you, because by looking more closely at the page I referred you to, I just learned about the quick search keyword function of Firefox. Cool! :)
[12:38] <nalioth> !apt-file > sergiol
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> buggzero: I would fix windows fdisk /mbr the try the grub repai disk again..
[12:38] <sergiol> ?
[12:38] <nalioth> sergiol: look at your private messages, please
[12:38] <buggzero> Jack_Sparrow, well that doesnt do me any good, I have at least 20gigs worth on my linux drive i need, how can i wiped the slate clean
[12:38] <sergiol> i do not have apt-file in my system
[12:39] <nalioth> sergiol: then you must install it
[12:39] <nalioth> read the info ubotu sent you, sergiol, it tells you how to do it
[12:40] <geeksauce> buggzero, how?
[12:40] <cjones> whats the easyest way to chang the grub config ?
[12:41] <zool2005> since I upgraded, the update manager doesn't automatically alert me when updates are available. Does anyone else have this problem?
[12:41] <MikeW> Does Dapper run well inside Virtual PC 2004?
[12:41] <m0gsi> Hey guys how do i stop ubuntu scanning my fat32 partition at bootup?
[12:41] <m0gsi> MikeW Use Vmware :P
[12:41] <MikeW> m0gsi: No. vmware isn't free (the version that allows me to CREATE images), and all vmware editions use a lot of pc resources with their servers, like DCHP server, networking, ...
[12:42] <zool2005> MikeW: a better idea, install Dapper and use MS from wmware!
[12:42] <MikeW> m0gsi: I know it has more features, but not being free and being a resource hog on the host computer is a pain
[12:42] <sergiol> sorry pm in Opera opn in backgorund
[12:42] <sergiol> apt-file search libgs.so
[12:42] <MikeW> So my question is, Dapper runs ok in VPC?
[12:42] <Skiria> what kind of file system does ubuntu use?
[12:42] <sergiol> is this command?
[12:43] <cjones> lol
[12:43] <buggzero> geeksauce:
[12:43] <buggzero> geeksauce: http://www.gnome-look.org/
[12:43] <sergiol> Skiria: df
[12:43] <nalioth> sergiol: if you've installed and updated apt-file, it is
[12:43] <cjones> skiria ext3 by default
[12:43] <sergiol> type the comman df
[12:43] <eltech> whats the difference between using vnc and then using vnc over ssh and how can this be done? i have vnc working no problems
[12:43] <Moosebuntu> Is there a way to "tile" windows in Ubuntu/Gnome?
[12:43] <sergiol> it returns me nothing
[12:43] <nalioth> eltech: vnc over ssh is secure (you don't get any of your passwords/cc numbers sniffed during the session)
[12:44] <nalioth> sergiol: did you read the info? you have to update apt-file after installing it
[12:44] <Skiria> is there a way to have read/write access to a partition with windows/ubuntu both?  the site says that there are some open source tools that allow NTFS writes from linux, but they may not always work
[12:45] <tailsfan> Anyone know what the extension is for a WINE Theme
[12:45] <zool2005> i had vmware installed when I upgraded but now it's broken, how do I uninstall it?
 all you have to do is recompile the kernel module
[12:45] <nalioth> Skiria: it may destroy your NTFS data
[12:46] <eltech> nalioth so do you use vnc viewer on the client machine? or an ssh client
[12:46] <zool2005> tarsier, how?
[12:46] <tarsier> from the command line run vmware and it will tell you which program to run again
[12:46] <tarsier> but make sure you have the kernel source installed
[12:46] <nalioth> eltech: you would enable your vnc client to tunnel through an ssh tunnel to the other machine
[12:46] <Skiria> nalioth: is that answer for any general shared write access between windows and linux or is that just for the open source tools available?
[12:47] <eltech> nai; can putty be used to achieve this all?
[12:47] <buggzero> How can I erase all my grub settings and then have it redetect new ones?
[12:47] <tarsier> zool2005: ah its vmware-config.pl
[12:47] <sergiol> after update it returns me nothing :(
[12:47] <Pupeno> How can I get the config of Ubuntu's Linux to build my own Linux ? (I need a newer version due to newer hardware)
[12:48] <nalioth> Skiria: all the linux tools you are gonna use for that are pretty much open source.  there have been many obstacles overcome with regard to reading/writing ntfs, but it is still not stable
[12:48] <SimzI> how can i play a .bin ?!!??!?!?
[12:48] <nalioth> eltech: they make ssh clients/servers for windows
[12:48] <Pupeno> mmhh... then I'll need to recompile fglrx and restricted module... what a pain.
[12:48] <Moosebuntu> Is there a way to "tile" windows in Ubuntu/Gnome?
[12:48] <zool2005> tarsier, I presume I have to do that after each kernel update?
[12:48] <nalioth> eltech: i haven't used windows in years, you might ask in ##windows
[12:49] <Whil> simzi type "bash (name of file.bin) in terminal
[12:49] <sysdoc> !qmail
[12:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about qmail - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:49] <eltech> vncviewer in windows i dont believe can do this
[12:49] <eltech> thnaks for the help though
[12:49] <tarsier> zool: ya
[12:49] <SimzI> thnx
[12:49] <PanicFo> guys what will "apt-get dist-upgrade" do?
[12:49] <PanicFo> newb walking here
[12:49] <PanicFo> :)
[12:49] <tarsier> at least that is what i have to do, i haven't found a better way around it
[12:50] <gnomefreak> PanicFo: give you latest updates for you version of ubuntu
[12:50] <Whil> is there a document somewhere on customizing gnome?
[12:50] <sergiol> sergio@ubuntuCopyCenter:~/ghostscript-8.54/doc$ apt-file search libgs.so
[12:50] <sergiol> sergio@ubuntuCopyCenter:~/ghostscript-8.54/doc$ apt-file search '*libgs.so*'
[12:50] <sergiol> sergio@ubuntuCopyCenter:~/ghostscript-8.54/doc$ apt-file search '.*libgs.so.*'
[12:50] <gnomefreak> PanicFo: as long as you leave /etc/apt/sources.list file alone
[12:50] <sergiol> no return
[12:50] <Moosebuntu> Is there any need for a firewall in Linux?
[12:50] <Moosebuntu> software based
[12:50] <jonas-irc> Moosebuntu, not really, but it's nice to have
[12:51] <Sanne> PanicFo: you might want to read the manpage of apt-get, it will tell you fine things :). Open a terminal, type "man apt-get". Search for a word with "/", quit with "q".
[12:51] <paniq> hey
[12:51] <Skiria> So if i have backups of all my data I'd put on an NTFS partition and something corrupted, is it just the single data that corrupts, or the whole partition
[12:51] <Wodger> depens what services you have running
[12:51] <nalioth> Moosebuntu: there is no need in a default install
[12:51] <Moosebuntu> Wodger> good point
[12:51] <paniq> how do i reload user groups without logging out and back in?
[12:51] <Moosebuntu> ok
[12:51] <nalioth> sergiol: type apt-file --help
[12:51] <ulogisk> i had my wlan settings nice and working when i was out of town. but when i came home wlan wasent working. the network icon says that the wlan connection is disconnected.. but when i dubble click it, it show that i have a strong signal. please help
[12:51] <jonas-irc> Moosebuntu, you can install an easy firewall named firestarter
[12:52] <PanicFo> ok thnx
[12:52] <Wodger> if your behind a NAT router with out formwarding or Unup off then none at alll
[12:52] <Moosebuntu> jonas> is it in synaptic universe?
[12:52] <jonas-irc> Moosebuntu, yes it is
[12:52] <jonas-irc> i use it myself
[12:52] <nalioth> Moosebuntu: this is not windows, and unless you are running servers on your box, a firewall is really not necessary
[12:52] <SimzI> Whil, the .bin is a video file
[12:52] <SimzI> and it doesn't play
[12:52] <TristanT06> hey people, I finally got extended desktop onto a tv to work. The only problem, when I have the tv connected my monitor displays very bright and I barely could make out anything, how can I fix this?
[12:52] <Moosebuntu> Wodger> I am behind a nat router, and only use forwarding for Azeurus.
[12:53] <Whil> simzi I have never heard of a bin video file
[12:53] <jonas-irc> Whil, you can open it in VLC player
[12:53] <SimzI> it's common
[12:53] <nalioth> Moosebuntu: you should not need a firewall at all
[12:53] <zool2005> I had almost completed today's update and the updater threw up this error "E: samba: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 102" does anyone have any idea what that means? It told me to run apt-get install -f, which I did and it didn't help
[12:53] <TristanT06> SimzI, you can play it with vlc player
[12:53] <Whil> jonas-irc really?
[12:53] <Moosebuntu> nalioth> What services run by default, anything?
[12:53] <SimzI> oh shit yeh jonas-irc i forgot about that
[12:53] <Whil> simzi: okay i apologize
[12:53] <nalioth> Moosebuntu: there are no listening services by default
[12:53] <Moosebuntu> nalioth> great! :)
[12:53] <SimzI> cheers guys
[12:53] <void^> SimzI: mplayer works as well
[12:54] <Moosebuntu> No need for antivirus either?  I'm curious as to why.
[12:54] <TristanT06> can anyone help me with tv-out
[12:54] <Wodger> not windows
[12:55] <nalioth> Moosebuntu: the user model in *nix is secure.  no user (by default) has access to the core system things
[12:55] <TristanT06> when I have the tv connected my monitor displays very bright and I barely could make out anything, how can I fix this?
[12:55] <Wodger> there are unixy virues
[12:55] <Wodger> but they are rare
[12:55] <Moosebuntu> nalioth> so unless you do something really stupid with Sudo, it's fairly safe then.
[12:55] <nalioth> Moosebuntu: correct
[12:56] <nalioth> there "ARE" unixy viruses, but they are usually eradicated within hours
[12:56] <nalioth> making the virus writers aim a little lower
[12:56] <Wodger> in terms of os's windows is unneakly plaged shall we say
[12:56] <Moosebuntu> I'm still convinced virus writers are employed by anti-virus vendors. :/
[12:57] <Moosebuntu> And MS is part of the conspiracy.
[12:57] <Moosebuntu> 0:)
[12:57] <Howitzer> Moosebuntu, probably
[12:57] <Howitzer> maybe they offer some freelance work
[12:57] <Moosebuntu> heh
[12:58] <Howitzer> but i don't think they'll actively try to spread as much damage as possible
[12:58] <MrLightUser> yay.. I'm busy making this laptop and ubuntu be my main system..
[12:59] <MrLightUser> I just have to figure out... hehe.. wireless and my touchpad.
[12:59] <Moosebuntu> I'm getting the oval Ubuntu sticker for the back of my Honda.  It's purdy!
[12:59] <Howitzer> lol
[12:59] <Howitzer> 'purdy' N
[12:59] <Moosebuntu> MrLightUser> essentials
[12:59] <Howitzer> ?
[12:59] <Wodger> all the windows crud has moved from the teen hacker to folks out to making money
[12:59] <MrLightUser> I think the touchpad is easiest, how do I make it so it doesn't click all the time when I brush it?
[12:59] <Wodger> hence bot nets for DOS and spam
[12:59] <Moosebuntu> Wodger> windows crud?
[12:59] <Wodger> malware
[12:59] <digitalfox> Evolution seems to be crashing upon trying to create the editing pane when I start a new message.
[01:00] <MrLightUser> I didn't see an option in the mouse configuration
[01:00] <Moosebuntu> MrLightUser> Why are you brushing your touchpad?
[01:00] <Moosebuntu> Wodger> ah
[01:00] <MrLightUser> Moosebuntu: it's a bit hairy, and I don't want it to get tangled.
[01:00] <gkelly> I need some help with ATI and X. I recently applied updates, which included a new linux kernel, and the fglrx driver wasn't updated for the new kernel. The fglrx module doesn't exist in the library path for the new kernel. How can I get an updated fglrx module for my new kernel?
[01:00] <MrLightUser> Moosebuntu: basically it goes off if I touch it wrong.
[01:01] <javiolo> hi
[01:01] <Moosebuntu> lol
[01:01] <javiolo> is it possible to install ubuntu withouth any x serv like gnome ?
[01:01] <MrLightUser> It'll do crazy things like start child processes when I don't want them
[01:01] <MrLightUser> I can't control it
[01:01] <Moosebuntu> Isn't that what Debian is for?
[01:01] <MrLightUser> damn touch pad
[01:01] <MrLightUser> lol
[01:01] <sergiol> i think i can only get it compiling ghoscriot
[01:02] <sergiol> ghoscript
[01:02] <Dimensions> hi ... i want to install ubuntu on my existing RH .. i have downloaded its and burn it to a cd ... but it doesn't auto boot ... and second how can i run it manually when i access the cd in RH
[01:02] <nalioth> javiolo: go download the alternative install cd or ubuntu-server install cd
[01:02] <javiolo> nalioth ubuntu-server comes with server apps installed ?
[01:03] <jonas-irc> Dimensions, first, make sure that you have enable and set CD-ROOM boot first and HD-Drive second in bios
[01:03] <nalioth> javiolo: yes it does
[01:03] <Dimensions> yeah i have done that jonas-irc
[01:03] <nalioth> javiolo: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/
[01:04] <javiolo> nalioth just want a simple ubuntu
[01:04] <void^> gkelly: install the appropriate linux-restricted-modules package
[01:05] <void^> gkelly: (hint: use linux-restricted-modules-386 to pull in the latest version automatically)
[01:05] <MrLightUser> any help with the touchpad?
[01:05] <nalioth> javiolo: then get the alternative install cd and choose the basic install option
[01:05] <javiolo> nalioth ok thanks!
[01:06] <georges> ny apache expert here?
[01:06] <MrLightUser> oh.. and this beast has a rage mobility m3 agp2x is there a graphical tool to properly change the xserver to ati or r128 or rage something?
[01:06] <geeksauce> having trouble changing the GRUB splash screen...where do i add the line in the menu.lst file?
[01:06] <PanicFo> Guys if i may interrupt for a minute: I installed ubuntu last week and i havent booted into WinXP once since! very much thanks to your friendly advice and the ubuntu forums :)
[01:07] <PanicFo> the community is amazing
[01:07] <codecaine> how come when ubuntu mounts drive I can't open the hard disk in gui?
[01:08] <codecaine> I have no permission always have to sudo the drive
[01:08] <zool2005> still on the subject of grub, when I update the kernel I always have a huge list (9-10) of items in the grub menu, can I cut these out automatically or do I have to comment them out in menu.lst each time?
[01:08] <Moosebuntu> PanicFo> yes Ubuntu and it's community/support is amazing thus far.
[01:08] <codecaine> manually
[01:09] <codecaine> comment them out
[01:09] <Stormx2> PanicFo: Isn't it just :)
[01:09] <zool2005> codecaine, nevermind !!
[01:09] <Sanne> PanicFo: Congrats, you're determined. I didn't do so well when I switched, needing to go back to Windows daily at first :)
[01:09] <PanicFo> yup ^^ I even got my beloved games to work in ubuntu
[01:09] <PanicFo> only thing i need now is to get ie to play nice so i can get to my banking software
[01:10] <cpaek72> anyone know where i can get a geforce go 7800gtx driver for my laptop? Ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize my card for 3d with the default nv driver
[01:10] <Stormx2> I go back to windows for 1) Webcam 2) Graphics work 3) Soldat
[01:10] <geeksauce> only thing i need is a decent bittorrent client
[01:10] <PanicFo> ive been thinking about just running winxp in vmware
[01:10] <Stormx2> PanicFo: Internet Explorer?
[01:10] <PanicFo> wouldnt that work?
[01:10] <PanicFo> storm: aye
[01:10] <Stormx2> PanicFo: Yeah, but it would be easier to use something called IEs4Linux
[01:11] <jonas-irc> PanicFo, which games do you play, and how did you set them up?
[01:11] <PanicFo> can that handle activex and java?
[01:11] <nalioth> PanicFo: use an IE browser identification string
[01:11] <sponix> 255Meg of updates aye, guess a lot has changed in the last 4 days ;)
[01:11] <Dimensions> no one seems to answer my question yet ?\
[01:11] <Stormx2> PanicFo: Google it, IEs4Linux. it will automaticly configure a new wine config to run IE6 pretty well (as well as possible)
[01:11] <Stormx2> Dimensions: What was your question?
[01:11] <cpaek72> anyone know where i can get a geforce go 7800gtx driver for my laptop for ubuntu?
[01:11] <nalioth> Stormx2: you only need a browser ID string that says "IE"
[01:11] <picket> !nvidia
[01:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:12] <Stormx2> nalioth: the user-agent? ah ha ha... why do they block anything but IE then? XD
[01:12] <sponix> Get a User Agent Switcher, it will let you toggle the string that identifies your browser, so you can just make firefox appear as IE etc
[01:12] <PanicFo> jonas: hl2 and wolfenstein: enemy territoy but hl2 still need some tweaking
[01:12] <nalioth> Stormx2: the great conspiracy, i'm sure
[01:12] <PanicFo> i cant remember the tutorial but it was on the ubuntu forums
[01:12] <Stormx2> haha
[01:12] <jonah1980> hi could anyone let me know how to force a 32bit .deb file to install on my 64bit? i already have an older version of the application and just want to update it a little... thanks
[01:12] <sponix> Stormx2:  there are "user agent" switcher plugins for most browsers, to make them identify as whatever is needed
[01:12] <linuxuser> i think ill help m$ stamp out piracy, ill use linux
[01:13] <nalioth> jonah1980: what package is it, that you are after?
[01:13] <Stormx2> linuxuser: lolzorz!
[01:14] <Dimensions> Stormx2, ... hi ... i want to install ubuntu on my existing RH .. i have downloaded its and burn it to a cd ... but it doesn't auto boot ... and second how can i run it manually when i access the cd in RH
[01:14] <Dr4g> grub is pissing me off big time man !!!!!
[01:14] <Dr4g> -
[01:14] <nalioth> Dimensions: what is a RH ?
[01:14] <jonah1980> i've already got the .deb file, it's a backport someone's made for testing but i've got wrong architecture: https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bug/51212
[01:14] <Dr4g> RH == RedHat
[01:14] <Dr4g> nalioth:  ^^^
[01:14] <nalioth> jonah1980: backport of what?
[01:14] <Dimensions> my first boot in bios is CD and i mounted cd all files folders are there on it
[01:14] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[01:14] <KnowledgEngi> i have installed this packages
[01:14] <KnowledgEngi> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FormatiProprietari
[01:14] <Sanne> PanicFo: do you use the native linux client for Enemy Territory?
[01:15] <nalioth> Dimensions: why would you want to run ubuntu inside redhat?
[01:15] <KnowledgEngi> and mplayer
[01:15] <KnowledgEngi> gxine and totem
[01:15] <dunnix> hello all
[01:15] <Dr4g> KnowledgEngi: specify problem
[01:15] <KnowledgEngi> but mplayer show a black video
[01:15] <PanicFo> sanne: yes
[01:15] <PanicFo> it runs like a charm
[01:15] <Stormx2> Dimensions: To make the CD boot, you need to set CD ROM as your first boot device in your BIOS. Usually you can access that sort of thing by pressing del when your box boots. As for running inside red hat... I don't know... maybe possibly chroot but I know nothing about that.
[01:15] <PanicFo> onyl prob is that i get a little mouselag ingame
[01:15] <Dr4g> download the restriced codec..etc
[01:15] <KnowledgEngi> there is not video into the mplayer window
[01:15] <jonah1980> nalioth, scribus-ng 1.3.3.2
[01:15] <Stormx2> Dimensions: Oh thats wierd...
[01:15] <Sanne> PanicFo: I used to run it on Debian Sid a year ago. Good to know it runs fine on Ubuntu :)
[01:15] <dunnix> I have only the "LiveCD" is there a differnce between the that and the "Install CD"? besides install methods?
[01:15] <KnowledgEngi> i have installed w32codecs
[01:16] <geeksauce> could anyone help me with changing the splash screen for the GRUB bootloader?
[01:16] <PanicFo> hehe ok
[01:16] <Dr4g> dunnix: your OS runs off of HDD, your live CD runs off of CD
[01:16] <Stormx2> Dimensions: md5checksum the .iso, and if its ok do another burn at a lower speed
[01:16] <nalioth> jonah1980: if the user who backported it followed debian policy, there should be a source code repo somewhere, and your machine can build it for you
[01:16] <PanicFo> maybe it's rude to ask but where are you from sanne?
[01:16] <dunnix> will i be getting less with the liveCD? in terms of install
[01:16] <Dr4g> you can't d/l files or do much
[01:16] <PanicFo> scandinavia?
[01:16] <nalioth> Stormx2: !verify
[01:16] <Dr4g> Live Cd is mainly used to recovering or installing ubuntu
[01:16] <Sanne> PanicFo: Close, I'm from Germany :)
[01:16] <Dr4g> dunnix:  ^^^^
[01:16] <PanicFo> hehe ok
[01:16] <PanicFo> im from the faroe islands ^^
[01:16] <Dimensions> Stormx2,  i have downloaded the files from ubuntu website and option was 1 cd for desktop ... is that fine ?
[01:16] <Stormx2> Oh sweet
[01:16] <PanicFo> live in copenhagen, denmark atm
[01:17] <KnowledgEngi> into the mplayer windows everything is black
[01:17] <dunnix> Dr4g: But hte livecd gives me option of installing  will i be getting less with the livecd install than with regular installcd?
[01:17] <Sanne> PanicFo: greetings, neighbor :)
[01:17] <fiveiron> so can anyone recommend a certain brand/model of external usb hdd enclosure?
[01:17] <Stormx2> Dimensions: yes thats normal
[01:17] <jonah1980> nalioth, well i've just have to wait see what they say then i guess, i've responded asking for 64bit here: https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bug/51212
[01:17] <Stormx2> Dimensions: Verify the ISO tho.
[01:17] <PanicFo> lol likewise
[01:17] <snoops> I'm finding the power saving module isn't, well switching to power saving mode
[01:17] <Stormx2> I must go now, sorry ^_^ missing the news....
[01:17] <nalioth> jonah1980: ask them where the 64bit pkgs or the source repos are
[01:17] <snoops> is there a way I can check the daemon for it is running?
[01:17] <johlin> is there a way to restore an iPod with ubuntu? Apples official one need a little service to run which makes it unable to run in wine.
[01:17] <geeksauce> anyone?  help changing splash screen for GRUB?
[01:18] <Dr4g> dunnix: the differences should be obvious...
[01:18] <Dr4g> 1) install runs from HDD, its faster and you have more functionallity,
[01:18] <Dr4g> 2) you ca'nt download or install software
[01:18] <Dr4g> 3) live CD is used to installing linux for above reasons + general use.... Liver CD also used for recovering linux, so to speak.
[01:18] <jonah1980> nalioth, thanks will do.
[01:18] <PanicFo> bb storm
[01:18] <SonicChao> !flood > Dr4g
[01:18] <Dimensions> Stormx2,  .... i used Neroburner it after burning checked the data and said its ok ... how do i checksum it ?
[01:18] <Dr4g> i used SHIFT+RETURN
[01:18] <Dr4g> to take a new line
[01:18] <Dr4g> i didnt paste :P
[01:19] <nalioth> !verify > Dimensions
[01:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about verify  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:19] <SonicChao> Dr4g: :P in Konversation, it appeared as 4 seperate lines
[01:19] <skavenge> 2 lines here, make your window bigger heh
[01:19] <Dr4g> SonicChao: lol it should but wasnt a paste
[01:19] <dunnix> Dr4g: but in terms of end product no change? i will i still be getting the same linux after the install on the liveCD?
[01:19] <nalioth> Dimensions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[01:19] <Stormx2> Dimensions: Read what ubotu sent you.
[01:20] <Dr4g> i took a new line to seperate sentences
[01:20] <SonicChao> Dr4g: well...k
[01:20] <nalioth> Stormx2: it's not currently in ubotu
[01:20] <nalioth> but i'm fixing that
[01:20] <Dr4g> dunnix: key point is: live CD is for USING linux,... install is for USING linux
[01:20] <Dr4g> see the diff ?
[01:20] <Agrajag> Dr4g: no
[01:20] <SonicChao> Dr4g: Lol what diff?
[01:20] <Stormx2> nalioth: ubotu is sick again? :(
[01:20] <SonicChao> they're both for Using Linux? XD
[01:20] <boyilo> wat
[01:20] <dunnix> well liveCD is giving me option of Installing it
[01:21] <boyilo> i?m new
[01:21] <skavenge> thats the only way to install
[01:21] <boyilo> help me
[01:21] <dunnix> i want to install it just dont have installcd
[01:21] <SonicChao> boyilo: Whats the problem?
[01:21] <boyilo> how to use
[01:21] <skavenge> so unless your going to magic it onto your harddrive you use the livecd
[01:21] <dunnix> i*
[01:21] <Sanne> geeksauce: is this the info you need (dunno exactly): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:21] <boyilo> i neeed to read a pdf file
[01:21] <SonicChao> !enter > boyilo
[01:21] <boyilo> i?m install ubuntu
[01:22] <SonicChao> boyilo: Ok...you need to read a PDF. A veiwer comes with linux. Double click the PDF
[01:22] <sladen> boyilo: PDF files should open with Evince autoamtically
[01:22] <boyilo> i know that i need xpdf
[01:22] <SonicChao> boyilo: sudo apt-get install xpdf
[01:22] <ZeZu> just get acroreader
[01:22] <boyilo> but i dont know how to make it hapends
[01:22] <Traveler75> Hi guys.
[01:22] <ZeZu> the rest of them suck
[01:22] <ZeZu> xpdf included
[01:22] <SonicChao> ZeZu: says who?
[01:22] <ZeZu> says me
[01:22] <dunnix> skavenge: Im talking about running the full ubuntu install off the LiveCD... Is it the same as installing linux off a InstallCD besides certian install functionality
[01:22] <nalioth> Stormx2: in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:22] <ZeZu> who else would i be speaking for?
[01:23] <sladen> dunnix: yes
[01:23] <Traveler75> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215265 - anyone got any ideas?
[01:23] <skavenge> dunnix: the livecd is the install cd, period .. there is no seperate install cd
[01:23] <Traveler75> Basically DHCP connection problems.
[01:23] <boyilo> ok i?ll try
[01:23] <SonicChao> ZeZu: No one else in the open source world, promoting commercial products, but no matter.
[01:23] <Traveler75> Not the first nor the last person apparently.
[01:23] <ZeZu> doesn't handle all images and imbedded crap and it doesn't even bother to anti-alias
[01:23] <Traveler75> There should be a troubleshooting website for Linux connection problems.
[01:23] <Desh> Does anyone know how to get fglrx to work on a Mobility Radeon 9700? I keep getting mesa as by OpenGL renderer.
[01:23] <Bahamanen> Does anyone in here use EMULE?
[01:23] <geeksauce> Sanne, not at all.  i want to customize the GRUB bootloader
[01:23] <ZeZu> acroreader isn't a commercial product, its freeware, and you are using a "commercial" format
[01:23] <ZeZu> so yea
[01:23] <SonicChao> !anyone > Bahamanen
[01:23] <void^> huh?
[01:23] <ZeZu> if acrobat is commercial, thats another story
[01:23] <dunnix> skavenge: oh so there arent 2 cds? only one   didnt there used to be 2 cds a livecd and an installcd?
[01:24] <Desh> How can I compile my own kernel? :)
[01:24] <Desh> When I = noob
[01:24] <SonicChao> ZeZu: let me see the code of it then...if there is no source, it's commercial. And plus there is a pay version.
[01:24] <void^> ZeZu: i've read many pdf ebooks and never felt a need for acroread. i conclude your statement is true only for specific pdfs, probably forms.
[01:24] <ZeZu> actually, you obv dont seem to have a clue
[01:24] <ZeZu> not OSS doesn't mean its commercial
[01:24] <skavenge> dunnix; yes, with breezy and previous versions, now install and livecd is one .. the only other cds come with other window managers (like kubuntu), or there is an alternate cd that uses a text install instead. thats it.
[01:25] <ZeZu> i release my own softare, its not open source, but its definitely not commercial
[01:25] <ZeZu> void^, i didn't say every pdf
[01:25] <Sanne> geeksauce: oh, I thought you meant the boot splash, sorry. To customize the boot options, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst. But make a backup first!
[01:25] <SonicChao> ZeZu: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:25] <Bahamanen> does anybody knows what this means:  You have a lowid. Please review your network config and/or your settings.
[01:25] <void^> ZeZu: of course it's commercial. they release the reader for free to sell the authoring software.
[01:25] <ZeZu> nothx
[01:25] <Bahamanen> ?????
[01:25] <Bahamanen> msg me
[01:25] <ZeZu> void^, that doesn't make it commercial
[01:25] <SonicChao> !pm
[01:25] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[01:25] <void^> ZeZu: right.. let's call it a day.
[01:25] <ZeZu> freeware is freeware is freeware, whether or not they make a commercial editing software means nothing
[01:25] <geeksauce> Sanne, that's the file i'm editing.  i'm just not sure where to add the appropriate line.
[01:26] <ZeZu> indeed
[01:26] <SonicChao> ZeZu: Yes it DOES, in my book. But I don't care...lets call it a day...i dont want to start debates
[01:26] <Sanne> geeksauce: but didn't you say bott splash? The picture that appears while booting?
[01:26] <Sanne> boot even
[01:26] <Bahamanen> ok Does anyone knows which P2P program is best ???
[01:26] <skavenge> whatever you like
[01:26] <SonicChao> Bahamanen: Well....no one is realy *best*
[01:26] <skavenge> thats an opinion question
[01:26] <skavenge> !p2p
[01:26] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[01:27] <skavenge> pick one
[01:27] <SonicChao> Bahamanen: Its all about what u need
[01:27] <Sjoerd_> anyone using gmail hosted? And knows something about dns setting? I don't know how to put them.. Who can help?
[01:27] <Dr4g> I'm having a serious problem with Grub SonicChao.
[01:27] <SonicChao> Dr4g: Yes?
[01:27] <Bahamanen> i got a problem with connecting to a big server in Emule
[01:27] <Bahamanen> it says  You have a lowid. Please review your network config and/or your settings.
[01:27] <geeksauce> Sanne, i want to set a splash screen for GRUB boot loader.  not the picture that appears after grubs loads ubuntu.
[01:27] <Dr4g> SonicChao: i open grub prompt, and type "root (hd0,0)" and it says unrecognized command
[01:28] <Bahamanen> anyone who knows anything plzz msg me
[01:28] <SonicChao> Dr4g: Any reason why you singled me out...? I donno to much about grub
[01:28] <AndyCooll_> Bahamanen: Apollon. Searches multiple networks at the same time
[01:28] <Dr4g> I've spoke to you a few times, you seemed intellegent :o)
[01:28] <Traveler75> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215265 -- if anyone has any idea how to get the eth0 interface to work I would be ever so grateful.
[01:28] <SonicChao> Bahamanen: Follow the rules please, no PMing. Everyone can benefit if it is said in the channel.
[01:28] <Sanne> geeksauce: ah, you mean a picture on the boot menu, where you choose the system to boot? If so, I don't know, I only changed the colors of the menu, not any image.
[01:28] <Dr4g> SonicChao: *^^^^
[01:29] <Bahamanen> what is pming?
[01:29] <SonicChao> Dr4g: ^_^ Wish i could help...but clueless when it comes to grub. sorry
[01:29] <Dr4g> PRivate messaging Bahamanen
[01:29] <SonicChao> Bahamanen: Same thing as messaging. Not aloud.
[01:29] <Gar1> hello
[01:29] <Dr4g> SonicChao: nps, u know anyone who's active who could help me
[01:29] <SonicChao> Dr4g: Not at the moment...have you tried the forums?
[01:29] <Protostar> Hello all
[01:30] <AndyCooll_> Mahamanen: I've currnetly got it searching Ares, FastTrack, Gnutella and OpenFT
[01:30] <Protostar> I need help
[01:30] <Protostar> its Grub
[01:30] <Dr4g> Yes the commands i'm inptutting are saying unrecognized command
[01:30] <Dr4g> SonicChao: *
[01:30] <Bahamanen> well im not that fast at this
[01:30] <geeksauce> sanne, it's cool.  i found the info i need in the ubuntu community docs
[01:30] <Gar1> anyone help with resolution and refresh rate?
[01:30] <Protostar> its corrupted and I'm trying to restore it
[01:30] <Bahamanen> everyone is typing at same time
[01:30] <Sanne> geeksauce: cool! Mind if you tell me where? I also would like to know how to do that.
[01:30] <Protostar> i keep getting the error " Not found or not a block device."
[01:30] <Dr4g> Bahamanen: 809 ppl in one channel, wat u expect :P
[01:30] <SonicChao> Bahamanen: well...this is a good community.
[01:30] <Protostar> when I try to install grub to /dev/hda
[01:31] <SonicChao> Bahamanen: Its better than only you in a room.
[01:31] <AndyCooll_> Bahamanen: Then you got to read fast! :-)
[01:31] <Bahamanen> and why isnt it aloud to PM then
[01:31] <Protostar> anyone know how to fix that?
[01:31] <SonicChao> !pm
[01:31] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[01:31] <Gar1> i'll try later ...too busy
[01:31] <Dr4g> SonicChao: i had 60 ppl in my channel, and i thought that was good ! lol
[01:31] <polpak> !resolution
[01:31] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:31] <polpak> !resolution > Garl
[01:31] <Bahamanen> ok then
[01:31] <Bahamanen> Well can anyone tell me what this is
[01:31] <Bahamanen>  You have a lowid. Please review your network config and/or your settings.
[01:31] <polpak> !resolution > Gar1
[01:31] <Protostar> ubotu, do you know anything about restoring grub?
[01:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about do you know anything about restoring grub? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:32] <GStubbs43> Can someone help me? I followed all of the  from the Ubuntu Wiki to get Shockwave working, but now when I go to a site with shockwave, it asks if I want to save or open a file. Screenshot:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17964
[01:32] <polpak> !grub > Protostar
[01:32] <GStubbs43> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17964 **
[01:32] <NeoChucky> Hi! Is somebody having slowness problems with Gnome after upgrading to kernel 2.6.15-26-386?
[01:32] <SonicChao> Protostar: please dont respond to the bot
[01:32] <geeksauce> Sanne, sure. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:32] <Protostar> haha
[01:32] <Protostar> sorry
[01:32] <SonicChao> NeoChucky: What do you mean by "Slowness problems"?
[01:32] <Bahamanen> 800 ppl and no one knows what im looking for
[01:32] <SonicChao> Protostar: Its ok
[01:32] <Bahamanen> this sux
[01:32] <Protostar> not used to having bots in the rooms I usually frequent
[01:33] <SonicChao> Bahamanen: Well then pay Canonical.
[01:33] <Sanne> geeksauce: ah, good to know, I might get me one ;). Thank you.
[01:33] <geeksauce> Sanne, no problem :)
[01:33] <polpak> GStubbs43, Flash works, Shockwave does not
[01:33] <polpak> GStubbs43, there isn't a shockwave plugin for linux afaik
[01:33] <taotime> hi everybody...  is there an equivalent of loadlin.exe in linux
[01:33] <NeoChucky> SonicChao, with kernel 2.6.15-25, whet i log into the Gnome session, all runs fine (launching a gnome-terminal is immediate)
[01:34] <Bahamanen> does anyone know a p2p chanel?
[01:34] <GStubbs43> I know, but the wiki has instructions on getting shockwave to work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[01:34] <polpak> GStubbs43, to see flash, go to www.homestarrunner.com
[01:34] <SonicChao> !p2p > Bahamanen
[01:34] <GStubbs43> I have flash working fine
[01:34] <polpak> GStubbs43, if you read what it says.. It only works when you run it under wine
[01:34] <NeoChucky> with new kernel 2.6.15-26, all the Gnome apps (and *only* the Gnome apps) take many time to render widgets and get responsive
[01:34] <Bahamanen> i didnt get that
[01:35] <GStubbs43> I tried that too...
[01:35] <GStubbs43> same thing happens
[01:35] <taotime> i have the boot floppy but i want to boot the ubuntu cdrom on a usb connection
[01:35] <Protostar> I'm booted using the live CD and it keeps saying "Not found or not a block device" when I try and install Grub
[01:35] <polpak> GStubbs43, be more specific.. What did you try?
[01:36] <NeoChucky> I've an AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ processor and a Radeon 9600 graphics card.
[01:36] <Desh> Cool.
[01:36] <Protostar> " sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda"<---I tried this command and got this error " unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()"
[01:36] <NeoChucky> (just if that information helps...)
[01:36] <benkong2> I cannot get my ipforwarding to work on ubuntu-server. I can ssh ping the network and other machines can ping the server however none of them can get to the internet
[01:36] <Ensiferum> sigh, whats the trick to make X load nvidia driver?
[01:36] <Protostar> i'm at a loss here. I really don't want to reinstall ubuntu
[01:36] <nwonknu-> you tell me
[01:36] <benkong2> been working on this thing better part of the day
[01:36] <Desh> NeoChunky: I'd help, but I suck. :(
[01:37] <Ensiferum> the driver is in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/driver/video
[01:37] <GStubbs43> I tried the adobe.com/shockwave/welcome site by running the Windows Firefox in Wine, after installing the shockwave plugin and a screen pops up asking where I want to save something
[01:37] <polpak> GStubbs43, how _exactly_ did you run windows firefox in wine?
[01:37] <NeoChucky> Desh, I'll be happy simply knowing if that problem is happening to more people
[01:37] <benkong2> I used www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml for iptable rules. can anyone help...please
[01:37] <oezguer> hi everyone
[01:37] <chaoszero> hello
[01:38] <oezguer> hello from germany
[01:38] <oezguer> :)
[01:38] <taotime> original comp has no cdrom, have a usb connected cdrom and ubuntu install cd in it.. but bios won't load it, smb does not see it either anybody know how to use the floppy to boot the usb cdrom
[01:38] <benkong2> I am ssh'd into the box now using irssi and lynx
[01:38] <oezguer> can we get free Suse linux cds ? like ship it Ubuntu???
[01:38] <Desh> NeoChunky: Well we have similar video cards, I have a 9700 mobility which is basically a 9600, I use KDE but my gnome apps like Gimp work fine.
[01:38] <GStubbs43> Okay, I got it working in Wine... I opened /home/gino/.wine/c_drive/program files/mozilla firefox/Firefox.exe in the terminal and shockwave works. Thanks anyway! ;)
[01:38] <HellDragon> cant touch this
[01:39] <AndyCooll_> oezger: Suse doesn't have a shipit equivalent
[01:39] <NeoChucky> ok, and are you using  2.6.15-26-386 kernel?
[01:39] <linuxpoet> any packagers here?
[01:39] <SonicChao> linuxpoet: Please ask you're question
[01:39] <oezguer> AndyCooll: thanx ..  which one is better? Ubuntu or Suse or an anotherelse?
[01:39] <AndyCooll_> oezger: Your choices are: pay for it, download and burn it, or get it on a magazine
[01:40] <linuxpoet> SonicChao: that is my questions :)
[01:40] <boyilo> ok "sudo atp-get install xpdf" and then pasword ????
[01:40] <linuxpoet> SonicChao: I need an Ubuntu packager for www.mammothpostgresql.org
[01:40] <SonicChao> linuxpoet: More specifically, what pkg do you need?
[01:40] <AndyCooll_> oezguer: pays your money takes your pick!
[01:40] <boyilo> what is the pasword
[01:40] <Cyberom> hello
[01:40] <linuxpoet> For Breezy and Dapper
[01:40] <AndyCooll_> oezguer: I personally prefer Ubuntu of course
[01:40] <boyilo> i?m neweee
[01:40] <Ensiferum> someone know what trick i need to do so that "insmod foo" works without having to specify the full path :/
[01:40] <mazurskie> boyilo: your password
[01:40] <Cyberom> I'm translating the unoffical ubuntu-guide
[01:41] <AndyCooll_> oezguer: people say Suse is polished though
[01:41] <Cyberom> and I want to be sure for synaptics :
[01:41] <oezguer> AndyCooll: cool.,  have u tried Suse?
[01:41] <boyilo> i?ll try again
[01:41] <AndyCooll_> oezguer: yeah. I've currently made myself a VMware image of it
[01:42] <wizzlefish> for some reason, when I do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop," it wants me to remove "ubuntu-desktop" - why is this - I want KDE, without getting rid of GNOME
[01:42] <NeoChucky> Ensiferum, have you tried modprobe instead?
[01:42] <Cyberom> if you want to add custom repositories :
[01:42] <oezguer> AndyCooll: upps . i have to go, thanx for infromation, have a good night ... ciaooo
[01:42] <Cyberom> *#Click on Add and then Custom
[01:42] <Ensiferum> NeoChucky: insmod calls modprobe
[01:42] <AndyCooll_> oezguer: I'm not so keen on Yast, but some people say that's the best part of it
[01:42] <Cyberom> is it true ?
[01:42] <Mastastealth> hey guys, if grub starts coming up with a command line interface instead of the usual menu of ubuntu, safemode, memtest, did my grub break?
[01:42] <pianoboy3333> is there a way to remotly execute a command from linux onto windows?
[01:42] <oezguer> thanx
[01:42] <Cyberom> you have to click add, and then custom ?
[01:43] <AndyCooll_> oezguer: yast is like the "control panel", and particularly Suses package installation metod
[01:43] <KnowledgEngi> uff
[01:43] <KnowledgEngi> stupid mplayer
[01:44] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[01:44] <boyilo> i made it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
[01:44] <wubrgamer> how do i watch windows media on my system ?
[01:44] <wizzlefish> how do I get KDE on Ubuntu?
[01:44] <boyilo> thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!1
[01:44] <wubrgamer> i'm running ubuntu dapper with universe and multiverse and every kind of verse
[01:44] <Ensiferum> wubrgamer: you install wmvware and windows
[01:44] <pianoboy3333> is there a way to remotly execute a command from linux onto windows?
[01:44] <wubrgamer> are you serious ?
[01:44] <wubrgamer> i thought there was a wey to get it up
[01:44] <AndyCooll_> wizzlefish: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:44] <Ensiferum> wubrgamer: or then you can try your luck with xine or something
[01:44] <wubrgamer> how do i watch windows media
[01:44] <Dimensions> lol wubrgamer  @ verse
[01:45] <wubrgamer> ?
[01:45] <wizzlefish> AndCooll_: when I do that, it tells me I have to remove ubuntu-desktop
[01:45] <skavenge> wubrgamer: you need to install w32codecs
[01:45] <wubrgamer> thank you
[01:45] <NeoChucky> pianoboy3333, you can install an openssh server on WIndows
[01:45] <wubrgamer> it isn't there
[01:45] <wubrgamer> not in the standard repo's that is
[01:45] <geeksauce> Sanne, before when you were talking about the loading screen for ubunu...can i change that too?
[01:45] <skavenge> wubrgamer: instructions on the wiki under RestrictedFormats .. see ubotu's link=
[01:45] <Sleeping_Sloth> hello - can anyone help me with a folding problem??
[01:45] <wubrgamer> what is the ubotu link ?
[01:45] <skavenge> !restricted
[01:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <NeoChucky> or try to make a rdesktop connection and execute the command
[01:45] <wubrgamer> thakn oyou
[01:46] <ardchoille> wizzlefish: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package, it pulls in all deps for the ubuntu desktop. the ubuntu-desktop package is safe to remove
[01:46] <Dimensions> hey guys im installing ubuntu on RH .. i have windows on other partitions ... when i install ubuntu will it affect my windows too ?
[01:46] <wheel> what is the syntax to add uninstalled programs to the installer?
[01:47] <Sanne> geeksauce: that was the screen after the grub menu, before Gnome/Kde etc, I believe. I think it's called usplash, the page I refered to is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:47] <wizzlefish> ardchoille: when I install, it gives me a list of about 100 dependencies - why doesn't it just install these automatically?
[01:47] <Mastastealth> is there a way to reinstall grub from dapper desktop cd?
[01:48] <ardchoille> wizzlefish: because kubuntu-desktop is also a meta package, it pulls in the deps for a nice kde desktop
[01:48] <KyleHunt> How can I view a CHM file in ubuntu?
[01:48] <wizzlefish> ardchoille: well it is not doing that right now - Synaptic is only installing a few packages that KDE depends on, and won't install the other dependencies
[01:48] <sysrpl> sudo aptitude install xchm
[01:48] <KyleHunt> Thanks
[01:48] <sysrpl> np
[01:49] <geeksauce> Sanne, just to make sure we are talking about the same thing, i mean where it shows the ubuntu logo and underneath that it shows the processes loading, right?
[01:49] <Sanne> geeksauce: I *think* it means that, yes. I got the info from the bot, I'll send it to you, sec.
[01:49] <Sanne> !usplash > geeksauce
[01:49] <wheel> i have an archive folder. how can i make the installer see it?
[01:49] <jojoman02> when i start gdmsetup i get a segfault... what do i do?
[01:49] <pianoboy3333> NeoChucky: but no other way on a LAN?
[01:50] <sysrpl> does anyone here thing gimp like applications are horrid? you know the ones with mutliple floating windows that can hide behind the windows of other open applications ...
[01:50] <Sanne> geeksauce: did you get a message from ubotu?
[01:50] <NeoChucky> I think the most convenient method is installing openssh on windows
[01:50] <wheel> jojoman02: download mandriva.
[01:50] <geeksauce> sanne, yes thanks
[01:50] <mazurskie> sysrpl: great on huge monitors, though!
[01:50] <jojoman02> wheel, that's not going to happen... lol...
[01:51] <Ensiferum> sigh, so noone knows how to load kernel modules?
[01:51] <Dimensions> any one can answer me pls ?
[01:51] <Sanne> geeksauce: ah, fine (I'm not that familiar with the bot)
[01:51] <sysrpl> i run at 1200x800 and its still a problem
[01:51] <wheel> jojoman02: ok. all i need is to find out how to add downloads to the installer. oh well. :)
[01:51] <Mastastealth> Ensiferum: you mean with modprobe?
[01:51] <ardchoille> sysrpl: That's what ALT+TAB is for ;)
[01:51] <mazurskie> i run at 1400x1050
[01:51] <wizzlefish> sysrpl: that's what multiple workspaces are for
[01:51] <mazurskie> and my desktop is bigger
[01:51] <geeksauce> sanne, do you know of a place where i can get images designed for being a splash screen, i.e. correct dimensions and colors
[01:51] <mazurskie> ^^
[01:52] <Mastastealth> Dimensions, no it shouldnt. If you are just writing over the RH partition, Windows should be untouched
[01:52] <wizzlefish> arg I hate Synaptic
[01:52] <sysrpl> well i use a tool like glade interface designer, and between the pallet, main window, designer, property window, and widget tree itss WAY too hard to use
[01:52] <sysrpl> especially when tabing to other windows to copy code
[01:52] <AndyCooll_> Dimensions: If you mean wiping the RH partition and installing Ubuntu over it, then no it won't touch Windows
[01:52] <Ensiferum> Mastastealth: modprobe/insmod whatever, it doesnt find the .ko unless i specify the full path. and Xorg doesnt do that so it barfs on "Driver "nvidia""
[01:52] <] grimm[> Does anyone know what the best way is for me to access files on a resier partition that is encoded with euc-jp under my utf8 ubuntu environment?
[01:52] <Ensiferum> so is there some kinf of setup where insmod looks for the modules? :/
[01:52] <wheel> i'll bet nobody knows how to add downloads to the installer. typical.
[01:53] <Ensiferum> i added the path in /etc/modprobe.conf
[01:53] <skavenge> wheel: are you talking about synaptic or what? if so its not possible
[01:53] <ardchoille> wheel: Huh?
[01:53] <Sanne> geeksauce: I just found those: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Change_Usplash and http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Serengeti_Usplash_for_Dapper
[01:53] <] grimm[> *resier=reiser
[01:53] <SogniX> how do i mount an hfsplus drive with read AND write permissions? I swear I was able to write to it before :/
[01:53] <Dimensions> thanks Mastastealth  i already have a swap and linux partition so which one i will be over writing ? ... and what abt the internet which works smoothly on RH is it going to work and installed there too ?
[01:53] <wheel> skag: how do i do it? do you know of a command line syntax? :)
[01:54] <Mastastealth> Ensiferum: so you are trying to install NVIDIA drivers it seems?
[01:54] <wizzlefish> why does "kde" depend on "kde-amusements?"
[01:54] <NeoChucky> Ensiferum, hmmm... but... are you sure if Xorg is responsible for loading the kernel module? I tought that those kernel modules had to be loaded before starting the X server
[01:54] <wizzlefish> that's really sad
[01:54] <wizzlefish> Synaptic is screwing up
[01:54] <wheel> ardchoille: how do i add downloads to the installer? know the syntax? :)
[01:54] <Dimensions> thanks AndyCooll_
[01:54] <Ensiferum> NeoChucky: it says in the log so
[01:54] <Ensiferum> cant load nvidia
[01:54] <ardchoille> wheel: You mean Synaptic?
[01:54] <sysdoc> Sanne, hey how ya doing
[01:55] <wheel> wizzlefish: i think that screw up is universal. :)
[01:55] <NeoChucky> maybe it's the X server driver, not the kernel driver
[01:55] <skavenge> wheel; no one even understands your question, what are you trying to add and what 'installer' are you talking about?
[01:55] <wizzlefish> wheel: well how do I install KDE?! ARG!
[01:55] <Sanne> geeksauce: oh, and there are some in the repositories, if you search for splash at packages.ubuntu.com: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=splash&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[01:55] <NeoChucky> anyway, if you want to configure kernel drivers to be loaded at startup, try "modconf" (apt-get install modconf)
[01:55] <Sanne> sysdoc: hey, thanks, fine. You?
[01:55] <wizzlefish> !kde
[01:55] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:55] <wheel> ardchoille: anyhow!!!! i have an archive folder with uninstalled debs. i need to have the installer acknowledge it, and add it to the install list. any ideas? :)
[01:55] <teknoprep> wizzlefish: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <geeksauce> Sanne, thanks
[01:56] <ardchoille> wheel: you don't add apps to the installer. You add repos to the list of repos the installer uses. The apps are added in the repos and their server is responsible for that stuff.
[01:56] <sysdoc> Sanne, great here, still hating CSS too, lol
[01:56] <wizzlefish> teknoprep: it gives me a list of ~80 dependencies that aren't going to be installed
[01:56] <teknoprep> wizzlefish:  too bad
[01:56] <sysdoc> Sanne, actually just hating IE, lol
[01:56] <teknoprep> wizzlefish: why not just download kubuntu ?
[01:56] <MrKeuner> Hi, I have isntalle kubuntu-desktop while still keeping with ubuntu-desktop. I think I should have screwed something playing with settings in KDE system preferences; when I boot into gnome desktop same font same size is now smaller. I can easily compare them since I have two ubuntu-desktop systems here.(one without kubuntu-desktop) What could be the problem? thanks
[01:56] <wizzlefish> because I want GNOME and KDE
[01:56] <Sanne> sysdoc: yeah, that's what it boils down to, mostly.
[01:56] <sledmouth> try xfce4 instead ;)
[01:56] <SogniX> how do i mount an hfsplus drive with read AND write permissions? I swear I was able to write to it before, now it mounts as Read-Only.  :/
[01:56] <ardchoille> wizzlefish: I install kde with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <wizzlefish> adrchoille: I guess it doesn't work for me
[01:57] <teknoprep> wizzlefish: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:57] <wheel> wizzlefish: serious. be careful if you download install. go carefully. if you install kbuntu's kdm you coul;d have a problem, i think. start with kdesktop. :)
[01:57] <teknoprep> wizzlefish: uncomment the # next to the http crap
[01:57] <AndyCooll_> Dimensions: When in RH, use the command line and type df. That should tell you what partition is being used for what
[01:57] <teknoprep> wizzlefish: then sudo apt-get update
[01:57] <sysdoc> Sanne, I did get that menu working correctly in IE tho.
[01:57] <teknoprep> wizzlefish: then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <teknoprep> wizzlefish: then ---> buy a better brain
[01:58] <AndyCooll_> Dimensions: When you come to install Ubuntu make sure you select the RH partition to overwrite
[01:58] <wheel> ardchoille: update list in the installer? it Does_not_Freaking work for archive files.
[01:58] <Sanne> sysdoc: wow, cool! (But we're hopelessly offtopic here with css stuff... wanna talk about it in #css?)
[01:58] <skavenge> wheel; you CANT add them to the installer, for the 10th time
[01:59] <AndyCooll_> Dimensions: Usually Windows is on the first partition
[01:59] <ardchoille> wheel: you have packages on a disk or something? You can use dpkg to install those.
[01:59] <oblib> any experts on standby problems here?
[01:59] <sysdoc> Sanne, nah I'm over it... qmail is on the table at this point
[01:59] <skavenge> dpkg -i blah.deb, start manually installing
[01:59] <Sanne> sysdoc: heh, ok :)
[01:59] <oblib> When I come back from standby, I can't get my digital out on my soundcard to turn on
[01:59] <ardchoille> skavenge: :)
[01:59] <wheel> skavenge: i have a cd with a complete kde install upgrade to ubuntu. i should. . . :)
[01:59] <oblib> and if I go into standby with digital on, it won't come back
[02:00] <tritium> oblib: best thing is to file a bug
[02:00] <teknoprep> wizzlefish: why not just install kubuntu ?
[02:00] <teknoprep> wizzlefish: it starts off with kde
[02:00] <skavenge> wheel: they dont even make those, if you downloaded 'kubuntu', thats a full install, they dont make a kde add-on disk
[02:00] <Sleeping_Sloth> does anyone in here have stability issues with amarok?
[02:00] <Sleeping_Sloth> because my amarok keeps crashing :(
[02:00] <wheel> ardchoille: do you know the dpkg syntax? i tried it before and it failed to see the individual programs because there was no list. i tried to generate a list, and that failed.
[02:01] <tripppy> if remote-desktop sharing was working in ubuntu, why would'nt it work in xubuntu?
[02:01] <Sanne> sysdoc: I'd love to help you with qmail, but unfortunately don't know anything about it :/
[02:01] <wizzlefish> teknoprep: I thought it would be easier to install KDE because I have all my user files. I think I'll try and compile it or something.
[02:01] <La_PaRCa> Anyone has used scilab? I am having some trouble with it showing the wrong chars in the console.
[02:01] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[02:01] <snoops> I had a few issues with amarok on amd64.. but that was todo with a codec problem.. in i386 it's perfect no crashes
[02:01] <ardchoille> wheel: Yes, it's:  sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:01] <snoops> and you're using 1.4.1 right Sleeping_Sloth?
[02:01] <tritium> La_PaRCa: I prefer octave to scilab
[02:01] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: repos version on amd64
[02:01] <KnowledgEngi> i have installed mplayer, w32codecs, totem, xine
[02:01] <KnowledgEngi> i rebooted
[02:01] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: 1.3.9
[02:01] <KnowledgEngi> but mplayer show a window blue
[02:01] <Ensiferum> failed to load module "glx"
[02:02] <Dimensions> AndyCooll_,  ... and is my internet going to be configured the same way as it did in RH ?
[02:02] <wheel> ardchoille: so. i first enter the folder. go, sudo dpkg -i file -- and that's all i need to do?
[02:02] <Ensiferum> failed to load module "nvidia"
[02:02] <Ensiferum> fucking shit
[02:02] <snoops> oh, you may as well upgrade to 1.4.1 Sleeping_Sloth
[02:02] <polpak> !language
[02:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:02] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: what is the best way to do that?
[02:02] <snoops> and you've definitely got all the codecs right Sleeping_Sloth?
[02:02] <tritium> Ensiferum: don't use that kind of language here!
[02:02] <ardchoille> wheel: If you have a dir full of .debs and you know you want to install them all, you can do:  sudo dpkg -i /path/dir/*.deb
[02:02] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: hang on - I've got....
[02:02] <La_PaRCa> tritium, ok. Is it better?
[02:03] <tritium> La_PaRCa: yes, I'd say so
[02:03] <Kirk> What is the command line syntex to make a folder, its files, and it's subdirectories into a tgz file?
[02:03] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs
[02:03] <snoops> grab all the other xine and gstreamer codecs
[02:03] <La_PaRCa> tritium, ok. I will give it a whirl. I would like to fix the problem with scilab tho.
[02:03] <wheel> ardchoille: thank you very much!!! let me give it a shot!!! thanks!!! :)
[02:03] <AndyCooll_> Dimensions: Anything special about your Internet connection, wireless? If it's bog-standard ethernet connection then It should find it yes.
[02:03] <tritium> La_PaRCa: I understand.  Filing a bug is a good idea, then.
[02:03] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: when it dies, it just freezes - i can force quit it, but it's a bit annoying. random things seem to set it off
[02:03] <ardchoille> wheel: You're welcome :)
[02:04] <wheel> ardchoille: thanks. :)
[02:04] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: ok, I'll give it a go
[02:04] <KnowledgEngi> there is some document that show a correct configuration of mplayer
[02:04] <wheel> adios. :)
[02:04] <tripppy> if remote-desktop sharing was working in ubuntu, why would'nt it work in xubuntu?
[02:04] <Dimensions> nah its ethernet .. connection
[02:04] <La_PaRCa> tritium, I am not sure if its a bug or something I have to configure.
[02:04] <KnowledgEngi> changing mplayer.conf
[02:04] <KnowledgEngi> o some configuration file ?
[02:04] <KnowledgEngi> or
[02:04] <tritium> La_PaRCa: dunno
[02:04] <UKMatt> does anyone know anything about Novell's SLAB?
[02:04] <snoops> Sleeping_Sloth oh and http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php for installing the latest version
[02:04] <polpak> KnowledgEngi, dunno, I use totem-xine, not mplayer
[02:04] <La_PaRCa> its probably something with the config, because the scilab console is using the wrong font
[02:04] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: thanks
[02:05] <snoops> yeah I had the exact same problem on amd64 Sleeping_Sloth.. it'd freeze and give me an error about some kemail issue.. didn't try it with 1.4.1 though
[02:05] <La_PaRCa> tritium, its using some sort of arab font
[02:05] <tritium> La_PaRCa: oh, okay.  I haven't used it in years, so I'm not one to ask.
[02:05] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: synaptic isnt reporting any gstreamer codecs (?)
[02:06] <snoops> Sleeping_Sloth got universe and multiverse enabled?
[02:06] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: yup
[02:07] <Dimensions> AndyCooll_, before i go for installation ... i have a few questions to ask ... first .. we have a software which we install on client pcs we were using MS os till now we migrated to linux .. we want our software to run automatically each time ubuntu starts ... how we do it .. ?
[02:07] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: on a search for "gstreamer codec"
[02:07] <kb3nnj> Hi all.
[02:07] <snoops> oh, just search for gstreamer
[02:07] <tritium> Dimensions: update-rc.d can be used to start services at boot
[02:08] <tritium> (well, to install init scripts)
[02:08] <Slackwise> What application/package in gnome manages fast user switch in Ubuntu?
[02:08] <ardchoille> Does gdm start x or is it the other way around?
[02:08] <AndyCooll_> Dimensions: Is this software Linux compatible?
[02:08] <tritium> Slackwise: fast-user-switch-applet
[02:08] <wizzlefish> is there a way to download and install KDE without using Synaptic?
[02:08] <La_PaRCa> how can I get a list of all the fonts in my system?
[02:08] <Sleeping_Sloth> snops: that throws up *loads* of packages
[02:08] <codecaine> startx ardchoille
[02:08] <Raito> How would I make a scroll wheel on my touchpad? As in, making the right edge of the touchpad a wheel. I know this happened before on the same computer (on kubuntu) and I do not know how it happened. One day I woke up and it was a wheel >_>
[02:08] <Raito> wizzlefish: I did it with apt-get
[02:09] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops:got any idea which ones have codecs in - or should I take anything thats lib?
[02:09] <ardchoille> codecaine: That doesn't answer my question
[02:09] <snoops> Sleeping_Sloth basically follow this guide
[02:09] <wizzlefish> Raito: is there a way to do it without apt-get? Apt-get isn't working
[02:09] <snoops> !restricted > Sleeping_Sloth
[02:09] <Dimensions> AndyColl_: yes it is ... it is running smoothly ... is there any programme like startup in MS based so we add it and it runs always ?
[02:09] <codecaine> do you use gnome
[02:09] <AndyCooll_> Dimensions: By default, MS software doesn't run on Linux, not without the help of Wine or such "emulators"
[02:09] <Slackwise> tritium: I guess. That does do the trick, but it's not integrated into gnome. I haven't used Ubuntu recently, but GNOME 2.14 has built-in fast-user switching, aside from the applet.
[02:09] <codecaine> if so yes it does load gdm
[02:09] <codecaine> :)] 
[02:09] <ardchoille> wizzlefish: Yes, open a term and do: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <Raito> wizzlefish: I would try to fix apt-get, did you try to install a debain package or something?
[02:09] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: thanks, I'll check it out
[02:10] <AndyCooll_> Dimensions: System-->Preferences-->Sessions
[02:10] <wizzlefish> Raito: no, apt-get is working, but it gives me a giant list of dependencies that didn't happen last time I installed KDE
[02:10] <AndyCooll_> You can add stuff to the startup process there
[02:10] <Raito> wizzlefish: When I installed KDE I had a giant list of dependancies too, it is prolly because last time you had most of them
[02:11] <BlueEagle> raito: xorg-driver-synaptics and/or gsynaptics (notice the s at the end. Has got nothing to do with the synaptic package manager)
[02:11] <BlueEagle> !info xorg-driver-synaptics
[02:11] <ubotu> Package xorg-driver-synaptics does not exist in dapper
[02:11] <BlueEagle> hmm
[02:11] <wizzlefish> Raito: is there any way to install all these dependencies without typing them in individually?
[02:11] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: incidentally, that 1.4.1 is a kubuntu package - will Ihave any issues using it in gnome?
[02:11] <wizzlefish> something like "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --dependencies
[02:11] <wizzlefish> :P
[02:11] <snoops> Sleeping_Sloth umm.. amarok is a kde app..
[02:11] <BlueEagle> !info gsynaptic
[02:11] <ubotu> Package gsynaptic does not exist in dapper
[02:11] <Dimensions> AndyCooll_, does it support all executable files ?
[02:12] <ardchoille> wizzlefish: That's what the kubuntu-desktop meta package was designed for.. so you wouldn't have to manually type in all the deps
[02:12] <KnowledgEngi> gxine do not show the video
[02:12] <snoops> Sleeping_Sloth since you already had to get the kde libs when you originally installed amarok on gnome.. You can just add the repository and upgrade hopefully.
[02:12] <Raito> wizzlefish: what do you mean typing them in individually? apt-get does dependancies for you, and BlueEagle, :/, hmm they aren't in dapper?
[02:12] <wizzlefish> hmm, well it doesn't seem to do be working, ardchoille - is there a way to troubleshoot that?
[02:12] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: I'm not running kde - apt-get seemed perfectly happy to get amarok for me though
[02:12] <KnowledgEngi> i have installed. mplayer, gxine, totem-xine
[02:12] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: that's what I was hoping
[02:12] <KnowledgEngi> w32codecs
[02:13] <BlueEagle> raito: Well, they are. I use dapper and aptitude search syna lists them.
[02:13] <Raito> BlueEagle: ok, which one would I want? both?
[02:13] <AndyCooll_> Dimensions: Sorry, can't answer that. I think so, but II wouldn't like to say that is a definitive answer
[02:13] <BlueEagle> raito: Try the xorg-driver-synaptics first
[02:13] <Raito> what is the difference between the two?
[02:13] <KnowledgEngi> i have installed http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FormatiProprietari too
[02:13] <ardchoille> wizzlefish: What happens when you do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:13] <BlueEagle> raito: I really would not know.
[02:13] <wizzlefish> The following packages have unmet dependencies: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: adept but it is not going to be installed
[02:13] <wizzlefish> (ardchoille)
[02:14] <wizzlefish> and a list of about 80 more of those
[02:14] <BlueEagle> raito: you would probably also want xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[02:14] <BlueEagle> raito: but the first might install the last. (first one is a viritual pakcage methinks)
[02:14] <Raito> wizzlefish: that is wierd, reinstall kubuntu_desktop, apparantly you have it already
[02:15] <krism> i have multiple monitors set up, each with thier own session. however, in this setup, the "notification-area" applet does not appear to work. (no gaim icon will come up) - does anyone have experience with this?
[02:15] <ardchoille> wizzlefish: Are you certain you don't already have kubuntu-desktop?
[02:15] <Raito> BlueEagle: ok, once I got those packages what do I do? does scroll automatically work? or what would I have to edit?
[02:15] <Sjoerd_> what mailform do you guys suggest for a website!?!
[02:15] <junkY_san> insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/misc/fglrx.ko': -1 Operation not permitted
[02:16] <wizzlefish> ardchoille: positive
[02:16] <wizzlefish> I'll look harder though
[02:16] <wizzlefish> 302
[02:16] <KnowledgEngi> somebody can help me with mplayer ?
[02:16] <BlueEagle> krism: I have not got experienve with that in ubuntu or gnome.
[02:17] <KnowledgEngi> i cannot see the video
[02:17] <snoops> got all the required codecs installed KnowledgEngi?
[02:17] <KnowledgEngi> i think that i need to change a configurazione file
[02:17] <sledmouth> KnowledgEngi: using the right vo ?
[02:17] <veepster_> any asterisk users here?
[02:17] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: you're getting busy on the codec front tonight :p
[02:17] <snoops> Sleeping_Sloth haha, you know it
[02:17] <KnowledgEngi> i have installed by synaptic: mplayer, gxine, totem, totem-xine
[02:18] <KnowledgEngi> and http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FormatiProprietari
[02:18] <BlueEagle> raito: I really would not know. You might need sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver or something to set it up.
[02:18] <sledmouth> KnowledgEngi: try playin from cli (mplayer) and see if it complains about somethimg
[02:18] <Raito> BlueEagle: ok, thanks for your help, trying now
[02:18] <KnowledgEngi> cli?
[02:19] <KnowledgEngi> what is ?
[02:19] <sledmouth> terminal
[02:19] <tritium> KnowledgEngi: command line interface
[02:19] <gnomefreak> KnowledgEngi: comman line interfacve
[02:19] <sledmouth> command line
[02:19] <gnomefreak> -v
[02:19] <BlueEagle> raito: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[02:19] <gnomefreak> +d
[02:19] <BlueEagle> raito: there you go
[02:19] <Raito> gsynaptics doesnt' exist and I already have the other one >_>
[02:19] <godtvisken> I know I can compile my own kernal from source by downloading it from kernel.org for example, but is there a better way to do it in ubuntu?
[02:19] <Raito> but I'll check the site
[02:19] <Raito> thanks
[02:20] <hamham> guys, i found a bug in apache2, tried to recompile the apache from source, but everytime i do a dpkg-buildpackage, it wipes my changes and uses the original source tree -- does anybody know how to override this ?
[02:20] <polpak> godtvisken, eh.. use the ones in synaptic ?
[02:20] <River> how do I run the update that "update-manager" does from a remote command line without using the gui ?
[02:20] <sledmouth> use lighttpd instead ;)
[02:20] <UKMatt> if i want to paste in a folder that needs privledges, is there a way to do it without terminal?
[02:20] <godtvisken> polpak, ok, i didn't know you could do that
[02:20] <polpak> River, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:20] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MjUqU436.html
[02:21] <KnowledgEngi> this is the output of
[02:21] <UKMatt> meaning.. like through dragging and dropping into a window
[02:21] <KnowledgEngi> mplayer -v 1.mpg
[02:21] <polpak> UKMatt, run nautilus as root
[02:21] <River> polpak: thanks for that . can you tell me what the difference between the two is ?
[02:21] <UKMatt> polpak, how do I do that?
[02:21] <polpak> River, one updates your package list, one upgrades all available packages
[02:21] <polpak> UKMatt, make a launcher that does gksudo nautilus
[02:22] <River> polpak: thanks for your help, much appreciated !
[02:22] <UKMatt> whats the difference between gksudo and sudo
[02:22] <BlueEagle> !gksudo
[02:22] <polpak> UKMatt, gksudo is the graphical sudo prompt you get when you try to do gui admin stuff
[02:22] <godtvisken> polpak, what is it called in synaptic?
[02:22] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[02:22] <polpak> godtvisken, linux-image
[02:23] <UKMatt> polpak, oh.. pops up the thing and dims the screen, tahts all?
[02:23] <polpak> UKMatt, yes
[02:23] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: am I being stupid or something? I've added the 1.4.1 repository to my sources.list, and when I try to install amarok, it tells me I have the most recent version
[02:23] <godtvisken> polpak, thanks
[02:23] <UKMatt> polpak, ha simple... ty
[02:23] <fiveiron> so can anyone recommend a certain brand/model of external usb hdd enclosure?
[02:23] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: am I being stupid or something? I've added the 1.4.1 repository to my sources.list, and when I try to install amarok, it tells me I have the most recent version
[02:23] <BlueEagle> ukmatt: it also sets up the environment for the gui app better than what sudo does.
[02:23] <Sleeping_Sloth> snoops: shit, sorry. hamfist
[02:23] <kintaro> hi guys..how can i play mp3 file on fresh installation?thanks!
[02:23] <KnowledgEngi> :)
[02:23] <KnowledgEngi> :(
[02:23] <BlueEagle> !mp3 > kintaro
[02:24] <jmworx> Is Martin Pitt or Ben Collins in this chan?
[02:24] <godtvisken> polpak, ah well i guess i can't. not a new enought version for what i need
[02:24] <BlueEagle> knowledgengi: is that the I've-got-many-spots-smiley?
[02:24] <kintaro> BlueEagle..yes..mp3
[02:24] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: However, doing gksudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser gives error.. so there's no way to run nautilus using gksudo in a way that the root instance of nautilus doesn't "take over" the users desktop.
[02:24] <KnowledgEngi> i have problem with video
[02:24] <BlueEagle> kintaro: ubotu should have sent you a /msg
[02:25] <KnowledgEngi> i cannot see vedeo in mplayer window
[02:25] <UKMatt> polpak, now when I run gksudo nautilus, i lose all my bookmarks in my file browser, do you know of any way to fix that?
[02:25] <KnowledgEngi> the mplayer window contain a black background
[02:25] <andr34> Hi all
[02:25] <kintaro> BlueEagle..yes.thanks a lot on this
[02:25] <kintaro> :)
[02:25] <BlueEagle> ardchoille: A) Do you really want to do that? B) nautilus has got a --root flag, doesn't it?
[02:25] <River> polpak: can you tell me what is the command line to get the upgrade running the the background and free up my terminal window  ?
[02:26] <sledmouth> KnowledgEngi: see what vo drivers u can specify on your system: mplayer -vo help (i think)
[02:26] <polpak> River, just do ctrl-shift-t
[02:26] <polpak> River, to make a new tab
[02:26] <polpak> River, or are you in the consol?
[02:26] <BlueEagle> river: add a & at the end to put something in the background or try screen
[02:26] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: gksudo nautilus   should open it normally but with admin permissions
[02:26] <polpak> River, if you are in the console use ctrl-alt-f2 or ctl-alt-f3 etc
[02:26] <BlueEagle> river: ie. aptitude update && aptitude upgrade &
[02:27] <andr34> does anyone know about install squid in ubuntu?
[02:27] <din> http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slick1jy.jpg
[02:27] <din> :)
[02:27] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: I don't see one. Using the "--no-desktop --browser" options prohibits nautilus from taking over the desktop. Ig you run gksudo nautilus, then the root instance of nautilkus will take over the users' desktop.. since gksudo doesn't allow the use of options with a command.
[02:27] <BlueEagle> andr34: any particular aspect of the installation you're wondering?
[02:27] <tritium> andr34: beyond sudo apt-get install squid?
[02:28] <River> blueagle: Polpak: thank you both. Is there a way to disconnect a remote terminal but leave the update running ?
[02:28] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: Yes, it does, my point is that nautilkus manages the desktop and will change the users desktop if root opens nautilkus in a users desktop
[02:28] <jiSh> din: thats a nice desktop :O
[02:28] <din> jiSh: thx :p
[02:29] <mazurskie> anyone tried 2.6.18-rc1 on ubuntu?
[02:29] <kintaro> yo..guys.is there a web page on ubuntu packages?
[02:29] <tritium> kintaro: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:29] <din> that's like asking if there's water in the ocean.
[02:29] <kintaro> thanks tritium
[02:29] <KnowledgEngi> sledmouth:
[02:29] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZdGn9Z99.html
[02:29] <KnowledgEngi> can you look please ?
[02:30] <KnowledgEngi> this is the output of your command
[02:30] <jmworx> BenC: you around?
[02:30] <tritium> !enter > KnowledgEngi
[02:30] <andr34> i have ubuntu 5.04 hoary hedgehog, and there's no facilities for squid, when i tried to install. it's not running
[02:30] <tritium> !info squid hoary
[02:30] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In repository main, is optional. Version 2.5.8-3ubuntu1.4 (hoary), package size 722 kB, installed size 2076 kB
[02:30] <din> KnowledgEngi: what's the problem?
[02:30] <BlueEagle> andr34: You might have to start it with something like: sudo /etc/init.d/squid start
[02:31] <BlueEagle> andr34: but you probably want to configure squid before you start it.
[02:31] <tritium> BlueEagle, andr34: sudo invoke-rc.d <service name> start | stop | restart
[02:31] <andr34> yeah the problem squid need gcc
[02:31] <tritium> andr34: why would it need that?
[02:32] <andr34> doesn't need?
[02:32] <tritium> The version in dapper doesn't depend on gcc, nor should the one in hoary.
[02:32] <andr34> im a new in ubuntu
[02:32] <KnowledgEngi> the problem is that every video player show a windows that contain black background
[02:32] <BlueEagle> tritium: what is the difference between invoke-rc.d and running the scripts directly from /etc/init.d/ ?
[02:32] <snoops> can I move x window applications between displays? Eg I've got :0 as my main display.. can someone login and say be on display :50 then I can move that window on :0 to :50?
[02:32] <KnowledgEngi> mplayer, gxine, totem, kaffeine and w32codecs are installed
[02:32] <ardchoille> BlueEagle , gnomefreak You can run gksudo nautilus and gksudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser if you like to see what I am talking about.
[02:32] <tritium> andr34: gcc is a compiler.  squid is already compiled for you in the ubuntu package
[02:32] <andr34> oh
[02:33] <BlueEagle> ardchoille: No, I can't. I am using xubuntu and kubuntu only now. :)
[02:33] <KnowledgEngi> this is my problem din
[02:33] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: Ahh, ok :)
[02:33] <tritium> BlueEagle: it obeys any runlevel constraints, and local policies set
[02:33] <din> KnowledgEngi: what video driver are you using?
[02:33] <andr34> so do you have an article how to install & running squid in ubuntu hoary?
[02:33] <din> nvidia, ati, nv ?
[02:33] <BlueEagle> tritium: I see. Nice.
[02:33] <BlueEagle> ..and thanks.
[02:33] <KnowledgEngi> i don know
[02:34] <KnowledgEngi> *don't
[02:34] <KnowledgEngi> how can i know it ?
[02:34] <Generic> soop, if I were to launch a program in ssh and the close the session
[02:34] <din> KnowledgEngi: sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i driver
[02:34] <Generic> would it still be running?
[02:34] <lz1gjd> hi, after installing SLED menu, when i start a gtk app as root, it uses the default gtk theme, what should i do to make it use my current user's theme ?
[02:34] <Generic> s/soop/so
[02:34] <tritium> Generic: no.  You should use screen for that.
[02:35] <Generic> screen?
[02:35] <BlueEagle> generic: only if you start it in the background with `mycommadn &` or run it in a screen session
[02:35] <tritium> Generic: yes
[02:35] <KnowledgEngi> din: http://rafb.net/paste/results/YPPjfc65.html
[02:35] <andr34> does anyone know website how to install squid in ubuntu hoary?
[02:35] <Generic> I haven't read about screens....
[02:35] <tritium> andr34: I told you:  sudo apt-get install squid
[02:35] <BlueEagle> generic: sudo aptitude install screen
[02:36] <BlueEagle> generic: screen myapp
[02:36] <tritium> ubuntu-desktop depends on screen, so it should be installed
[02:36] <andr34> yes blue i'd tried sudo apt-get install squid
[02:36] <Generic> gotcha
[02:36] <BlueEagle> generic: to disconnect from the screen use CTRL+ALT+D to reconnect to the screen use screen -r
[02:36] <tritium> andr34: and what happens?
[02:36] <wheel> i bet nobody knows how to add a directory to the installer.
[02:36] <andr34> but there's error message : no pacckage squid install
[02:36] <beerfan> what is the name of the linux kernel package?
[02:36] <BlueEagle> andr34: I see. Have you enabled all the repositories?
[02:37] <BlueEagle> !squid hoary
[02:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about squid hoary - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:37] <tritium> andr34: have you ever updated your package listing?  It's in the main repo, so it _has_ to be there
[02:37] <tritium> BlueEagle: see above for my !info squid hoary
[02:37] <KnowledgEngi> din: the driver for my graphic card is i740
[02:37] <BlueEagle> tritium: that requires scrolling. :)
[02:37] <tritium> :)
[02:37] <Generic> also, how difficult is it to set it so typing bt launches bittorrent?
[02:38] <nevyn> easy
[02:38] <tritium> Generic: as easy as setting up an alias
[02:38] <andr34> blue : how can i check enable all repositories? sorry i really dumb for ubuntu :(
[02:38] <ardchoille> wheel: I don't think that would work because normal directories aren't setup with the files needed to make it a repo
[02:38] <BlueEagle> andr34: Never mind that. It should be in the main repos. have you tried to search for all packages containing squid with: aptitude search squid
[02:38] <Generic> awesome, i'll google it
[02:38] <wheel> tritium: i tried copying uninstalled packages into the archive, and then updated the pkg listing. stoopidly, it saw nothing.
[02:38] <BlueEagle> ?
[02:38] <nevyn> Generic: alias bt='commandyouwanttorun'
[02:38] <tritium> wheel: why did you do that?
[02:39] <[Wiebel] > anyone here with dapper + an ipw2200?
[02:39] <Generic> thamls nevyn
[02:39] <din> KnowledgEngi: what version of mplayer are you using?
[02:39] <wheel> ardchoille: this is soooooo stoooopid. i mean, the whole deal. i'm tiring fast. my god, doesn't debian have a useful syntax? is it applicable for ubuntu?
[02:39] <andr34> ok let me try
[02:39] <tritium> wheel: what are you trying to do?
[02:40] <wheel> tritium: because the basic installer  is too stooopid to recognize and list an archive on my desktop.
[02:40] <tritium> wheel: huh?
[02:40] <BlueEagle> wheel: Did you tell the installer that there were archives to be found on your desktop?
[02:40] <UKMatt> So I just realized this, but after I run nautilus as root, if I do it again it doesn't ask for a password, is there something that I need to change so that it does need it again?
[02:41] <jrib> When I run gnome-settings-daemon in fluxbox, my fonts change.  Anyone have any ideas what exactly it sets/unsets when it is run?  Or any suggestions on how to figure it out?  (I am suspecting something with the subpixel smoothing)
[02:41] <wheel> tritium: i have a folder on my desktop. /root/Desktop/archives. i want to make these programs available to the installer. to have it be recognized.
[02:41] <KnowledgEngi> root@hostname:/home/user/VIDEO# mplayer --version
[02:41] <KnowledgEngi> MPlayer 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
[02:41] <beerfan> I installed linux-image-i686 and my networking doesn't work anymore. Is it possible uninstall that kernel or do I have to manually build a kernel which works now?
[02:41] <ardchoille> uh oh
[02:41] <wheel> BlueEagle: which installer, what syntax? :)
[02:41] <tritium> wheel: and why do this during install rather than after?
[02:41] <sysdoc> iptables question- I wanted to deny access from an entire block of ip addys, does anyone have a link explaining how to do that?
[02:41] <BlueEagle> wheel: You will need to add that location to your sources.list.
[02:42] <KnowledgEngi> mplayer686 from synaptic, i have enabled all repository that synaptic show
[02:42] <tritium> beerfan: you should have installed linux-686, so as to bring in l-r-m, etc.
[02:42] <snoops> anyone? Moving an x window to another display? Eg from :0 to :50?
[02:42] <beerfan> tritium, no idea what you mean. l-r-m?
[02:42] <wheel> tritium: i have a base ubuntu installed. i downloaded the entire kde install. before i installed it, i put it on a cd so i wouldn't lose it.
[02:43] <tritium> beerfan: linux-restricted-modules
[02:43] <Sanne> wheel: you need to generate a Packages.gz file in your folder and add your folder with a special syntax to your sources.list
[02:43] <ardchoille> Sanne: Thank you!
[02:43] <wheel> BlueEagle: thanks. the installer rejects the programs because they don't have a list.
[02:43] <codecaine> how can you find your webcam on linux?
[02:43] <Sanne> ardchoille: :)
[02:43] <[Wiebel] > fff~.
[02:43] <BlueEagle> wheel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThirdPartyPackages might apply, but I am not sure it does.
[02:43] <beerfan> tritium, is that not a dependency? how can I install it now that I no longer have network?
[02:44] <ardchoille> Sanne: I have been trying to tell him that.
[02:44] <wheel> Sanne: cool!!! what is the syntax? :)
[02:44] <tritium> beerfan: you have the dependency order reversed.
[02:44] <tritium> beerfan: linux-686 is what depends on the linux-image, linux-restricted-modules, etc.
[02:44] <wheel> BlueEagle: me too. and i'm tiring fast. thanks. :)
[02:44] <Sanne> wheel: I'm looking for an easy tutorial for you. If I find none, I will try to walk you through it.
[02:44] <din> KnowledgEngi: one question, do you have composite enabled, transparencies, and shadows and such?
[02:45] <tritium> wheel: kubuntu provides a KDE install.  Why are you going through all that?
[02:45] <wheel> Sanne: please do!!!! :)
[02:45] <beerfan> tritium, I just did 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-i686' so if those others were deps then they should have installed no?
[02:45] <ardchoille> Sanne: If you don't find a tutorial, how about writing one for the community ?
[02:45] <KnowledgEngi> i think no
[02:45] <phunkalicious> Hi there, I can't get my volume controls to work. :(
[02:45] <wheel> tritium: i am on dial up. it took two days to ownload what is now unreadable garbage. :)
[02:45] <din> KnowledgEngi: sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i composite
[02:45] <BlueEagle> wheel: Add your desktop folder to your sources.list (should be in /etc/apt/ folder) and it might help. Follow the template for the cd
[02:45] <Sanne> ardchoille: I could swear there once was a page about this on the wiki.
[02:45] <tritium> beerfan: if there were, but they're not.  Again, you have it confused.  linux-686 is the meta package with the dependencies
[02:45] <phunkalicious> The gnome icon shows the volume adjusting, but nothing actually happens. :(
[02:46] <ardchoille> Sanne: I looked, didn't find one :(
[02:46] <garryF> Oh holy cow, no wonder you wanted to save it to a folder.
[02:46] <KnowledgEngi> din: no output returned
[02:46] <KnowledgEngi> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i composite
[02:46] <wheel> BlueEagle: thank you!! but it won't work because you would need to pre-generate a list. :)
[02:46] <ardchoille> Sanne: I would be interested in learning how to generate the files needed for a repo, so I can make a local repo on my hd
[02:46] <phunkalicious> ubotu volume
[02:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about volume - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:46] <din> KnowledgEngi: can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in pastebin for me?
[02:46] <phunkalicious> :/
[02:46] <wheel> ardchoille: :)
[02:46] <beerfan> tritium, ok. I was just following the suggestion of some "tips for newbs" page and it mentioned no such thing. Is there an easy way to get back to the previous kernel?
[02:47] <wizzlefish> ardchoille: how would I test if I have kubuntu-desktop or not?
[02:47] <NthDegree_> wizzlefish try putting sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:48] <BlueEagle> wheel: Well I would assume you would install the base system first and then use something like aptitude to update the system with the new packages.
[02:48] <Sanne> ardchoille: yeah, just a sec, I try to make sure I won't tell false things (done it a long time ago...). I made a script for konqueror to generate a packages file in a folder, accessible fronm the right click menu. I'm not sure I still understand the syntax...
[02:48] <gmoore> i just found an old MSI tv tuner card. i think it's using an ati chipset. i'm still trying to find the model # etc. any chances of it working in ubuntu?
[02:48] <KnowledgEngi> din: my xorg.conf is: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7eqARz40.html
[02:48] <ardchoille> wizzlefish: That's a good question. I suppose you could log out and see if KDE is in the gdm list of desktops.. I think it is the "Options" button
[02:48] <tritium> ardchoille, wheel:  see mini-dinstall for local repositories
[02:48] <wheel> i dunno. i had a problem installing kubuntu right on top of ubuntu. i had dueling display mgrs.
[02:48] <ardchoille> tritium: Thank you very much :)
[02:49] <wizzlefish> ardchoille: nope, not on the list
[02:49] <andr34> blue, when i try to run sudo apt-get install squid, here's a message : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:49] <beerfan> tritium, I tried removing the linux-image-i686 package but it says there's no such package, since it's just a metapackage I guess
[02:49] <andr34> , do u know what the problem?
[02:49] <tritium> ardchoille: :)
[02:49] <phunkalicious> anyone know why my volume controls wouldn't actually control the volume :/
[02:49] <tritium> beerfan: dude, just sudo apt-get install linux-686
[02:49] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[02:50] <wheel> tritium: i don't understand. mini-dinstall? :)
[02:50] <[Wiebel] > it seems that NetworkMnager causes link loss
[02:50] <garryF> Wheel, I would suggest trying to burn the archive as you call it to a cdrom and then you can add the cdrom to the items searched when using package manager btw, which one of the dueling windows managers won?
[02:50] <tritium> wheel: it's a package you can install for that purpose
[02:50] <ardchoille> wizzlefish: try this: dpkg -l kubuntu-desktop
[02:50] <beerfan> tritium, I did. That's what broke my machine. Now I have no network so nothing else can be installed :-/
[02:50] <javiolo> hi
[02:50] <[Wiebel] > anyone else seen this?
[02:50] <tritium> beerfan: no, you said you installed a linux-image package
[02:50] <[Wiebel] > when using default iwconfig, all seems fine
[02:51] <[Wiebel] > when using NetworkManager, I'm seeing link loss
[02:51] <phunkalicious> works for me :/
[02:51] <[Wiebel] > (and packetloss bacause of that)
[02:51] <wizzlefish> ardchoille: not found
[02:51] <Sanne> wheel, ardchoille: if you still need the info, here is a wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PersonalRepositories
[02:51] <beerfan> tritium, ok right. linux-image-i686 is what I installed. Am I screwed?
[02:51] <wheel> garryF: yeah!!! i installed it initially. then i reinstalled ubuntu, and want to add the kdesktop. but i can't get the installer to recognize the packages. :)
[02:51] <tritium> beerfan: please try what I've asked you to do
[02:51] <ardchoille> wizzlefish: Then it's not installed.
[02:52] <KnowledgEngi> din: have you idea of this problem ?
[02:52] <wheel> Sanne: you Da Man!!!!!!! thank you!!! (brb). :)
[02:52] <din> KnowledgEngi: i'm looking around
[02:52] <River> how do i set up one machine on my network to be the apt-get cache for all other machines. I want to avoid all machines having to download the same updates/upgrades
[02:52] <KnowledgEngi> ok
[02:52] <KnowledgEngi> tks
[02:52] <din> KnowledgEngi: you've tried EVERY video output?
[02:52] <ardchoille> Sanne: Thank you sooooo much. I have always been good at resolving deps manually, but this makes things much easier :)
[02:52] <KnowledgEngi> no
[02:52] <Sanne> wheel: you're welcome (and me <-- no man :))
[02:52] <din> KnowledgEngi: try mplayer -vo xv file.mpg
[02:52] <wizzlefish> ardchoille: I tried typing in "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop adept (etc.)" to get all the dependencies, and it still didn't work - a longer list of dependencies
[02:52] <beerfan> tritium, just tried it. I have unmet dependencies which it can't download
[02:53] <Sanne> ardchoille: yeah, it's much easier, and not too much hassle to set up.
[02:53] <KnowledgEngi> i use ubuntu not kubuntu
[02:53] <dli> River, sudo apt-get install apt-proxy
[02:53] <krism> anyone know how to hide window decorations in metacity/gnome?
[02:53] <tritium> beerfan: that's truly odd.  Which ones?
[02:53] <din> KnowledgEngi: this has nothing to do with your wm/desktop
[02:53] <sharky> i need to add an entry to my fstab to mount a new hard drive and make is rw accessible for all users
[02:53] <nevyn> River: there are a number of solutions from the simple... (copy /var/cache/apt/archives after doing the first one)
[02:53] <din> heh
[02:53] <nevyn> to solutions like apt-proxy
[02:53] <zammit> I'm having some installation problems - I'm doing a fresh install of ubuntu 6.06 - new 40gig hdd, 233mhz p2, 256mb sdram
[02:53] <sharky> i used the defaults option but normal users still can't write to the new drive
[02:54] <fire> when I run dmesg |grep 1394 I get a current remote IRM is not 1394a-2000 compliant... any idea what I can do about that
[02:54] <wheel> Sanne: i am. and i am in love!!!!! you helped out so much!!! Thank you!!!! cya later!!! :)
[02:54] <din> krism: you can install Eterm and run Eterm -x for no decors
[02:54] <nevyn> River: to writing your own (which is what I did)
[02:54] <Sanne> lol
[02:54] <krism> din: thanks, will try it out
[02:54] <beerfan> tritium, extra packages to be installed: linux-restricted-modules-blah linux-restricted-modules-686
[02:54] <DB2> any channel for #ubuntu developers?
[02:55] <zammit> anyone willing to help?
[02:55] <fire> I am also looking for help!!!!
[02:55] <tritium> beerfan: is the machine networked now?
[02:55] <FunnyLookinHat> DB2, #ubuntu-devel
[02:55] <DB2> anybody using gaim-dev package?
[02:55] <FunnyLookinHat> DB2, and #ubuntu-motu = masters of the universe
[02:55] <FunnyLookinHat> DB2, doubtful...  most people stick to the packages that are officially in the ubuntu repos
[02:55] <tritium> DB2: not unless they're coding
[02:55] <DB2> it is in the offical respo
[02:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Ahh, I see what you meant.
[02:56] <beerfan> tritium, I wish. Neither ethernet nor wifi work
[02:56] <FunnyLookinHat> I thought you meant gaim development beta 2
[02:56] <fire> IRM is not 1394a-2000 compliant.. can some one help with this????
[02:56] <DB2> no...
[02:56] <tritium> beerfan: well, that's the problem.  Reboot, and boot into your old 386 kernel.  Sounds like your interface requires a restricted module.  Which interface do you use?  Is it wireless?
[02:56] <River> dli: does apt-proxy need to run on all machines ?
[02:57] <dli> River, no, one machine only, then, others talk to that one
[02:57] <KnowledgEngi> din: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AA0lV868.html
[02:57] <fire> Is there anyone on that can help????
[02:57] <Generic> Darn, 4 torrents is puny :(
[02:57] <dli> !help > fire
[02:57] <River> dli: thanks .. but how do the others know to talk to the proxy mc ?
[02:58] <beerfan> tritium, is my old kernel in the boot menu? I didn't think to check that. I guess I could just edit the boot config to bypass the new kernel
[02:58] <ApesMa> xscreensaver can't run any screensavers; it complains about being unable to open :0.0. I'm not logged in as root (after all, this is Ubuntu!). What might be causing this? (I have xscreensaver starting up at the beginning of the session.)
[02:58] <kb3nnj> beerfan, in my experience, old kernels do, in fact, stay in the boot menu
[02:58] <EnCh4nt3r> Hello! I have problems with my cd/dvdrw rom... whenever I put cd/dvd in it, I get some weird files with weird names.... I need to umount and then mount the drive again so that I can see the fils that are written on the cd/dvd... anyone knows what might cause this?
[02:58] <dli> River, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56375
[02:58] <zammit> my ubuntu installation keeps freezing, can anyone help?
[02:59] <River> dli: many thanks for your help ... and the link :-)
[02:59] <samuli> zammit, when does it freeze?
[02:59] <klees> how can i see my MAC address???
[02:59] <tritium> beerfan: yes, it is
[02:59] <dli> zammit, elaborate
[02:59] <dli> klees, sudo ifconfig -a
[02:59] <ApesMa> klees: ifconfig
[02:59] <zammit> samuli, when it loads the main kernel (2nd step in installation progress)
[02:59] <zammit> (i think)
[03:00] <tritium> beerfan: you have to remove kernels for them to be removed from you grub menu
[03:00] <beerfan> tritium, should the 686 kernel have been built with the same modules and settings as the 386 kernel?
[03:00] <klees> thx guys
[03:00] <tritium> beerfan: yes, but you didn't install the restricted modules.
[03:00] <tritium> beerfan: what's your primary network interface?
[03:00] <zammit> samuli, id did an md5 checksum on my d/l - that was okay, i'm running a memory test right now, but the RAM and HDD are brand new
[03:01] <beerfan> tritium, if by primary you mean most often used, wlan
[03:01] <Tom39Away> Hey, you know how in Gnome the windows bump into each other and the sides of the screen when you move them around?  I love that, is there a name for that feature?
[03:01] <samuli> zammit, can you get to bash in recovery mode?
[03:01] <River> I have a machine on the network that thinks Aptitude or synaptic is already running, but it isn't. How do I fix or get around this ?
[03:01] <ApesMa> Hmmm. When I kill xscreensaver and run xscreensaver demo, so that it fires xscreensaver up again, all is well. Time to go experiment.
[03:01] <zammit> samuli, i'm afraid i don't understand - in recovery mode? this computer never had ubuntu installed
[03:02] <tritium> beerfan: that very much sounds like the problem.  You have no restricted modules, so you can't bring up wlan0 with your 686 kernel.  Please reboot into your 386 kernel, and sudo apt-get install linux-686
[03:02] <EnCh4nt3r> Tom39Away, that's XGL
[03:02] <samuli> zammit, push esc when grub has it's three second countdown.
[03:02] <Tom39Away> EnCh4nt3r, thanks
[03:02] <fire> so if there is anyone on here that knows a bit about getting firewire working that would be great....
[03:02] <samuli> zammit, do you have another computer you can irc from?
[03:02] <zammit> samuli, yes
[03:02] <EnCh4nt3r> Tom39Away, you can install it in ubuntu... look on the forums there should be how to do it
[03:03] <samuli> zammit, okay, so try to get to bash first with recovery.
[03:03] <Tom39Away> EnCh4nt3r, huh?  No, it's something that's there already in Dapper by default.
[03:03] <zammit> samuli, i'm not on the computer i'm installing ubuntu on =) just fyi - there is no OS on that computer
[03:04] <EnCh4nt3r> Tom39Away, hmm I don't know then... I haven't seen that... so I don't know what you are talking about :)
[03:04] <samuli> zammit, ok. First thing I think you should do is get to bash and update everything to newest version, me thinks.
[03:05] <Tom39Away> EnCh4nt3r, hmm.  Are you using Gnome in Dapper?  Just move a window around and it'll bump into the edge of the screen for a short while, and you have to move the cursor a little bit more than usual to get it to go over.
[03:05] <zammit> samuli, i'm very new to all of this, define bash? =\
[03:05] <din> KnowledgEngi: ok, what version of Xorg are you running
[03:05] <DB2> where can i d/l the source code used for gaim in ubuntu ?
[03:06] <EnCh4nt3r> Tom39Away, oh, I see what you mean... well... I don't know how's that called... you want to disable it?
[03:06] <ZeZu> the gaim website ?
[03:06] <DB2> zezu: no .. it's a special ver
[03:06] <Tom39Away> EnCh4nt3r, found it, it's called "Edge resistance".  No, I love it, just wondered what it was called.
[03:06] <DB2> anybody know ?
[03:06] <wizzlefish> ardchoille: KDE is installed - I used aptitude instead of apt-get and it's all good
[03:06] <EnCh4nt3r> I see, ok. Great :)
[03:07] <DB2> nm
[03:07] <meheren> can you get quake on ubuntu?
[03:07] <meheren> (freely)
[03:07] <Quarupted> You can get quake on any linux system
[03:07] <meheren> for free?
[03:07] <Quarupted> it has a native linux version
[03:07] <krism> din: that worked great. got a bitchx session that looks like its on the desktop now :)
[03:07] <Quarupted> I dunno if its free check apt
[03:07] <ralsheb> if ssh keeps telling me conenction refused on a comp i can ping that has ssh installed what should i be looking @?
[03:07] <KnowledgEngi> din: X Window System Version 7.0.0
[03:07] <zammit> samuli, how do i run recovery? i'm so lost...
[03:07] <meheren> ok
[03:08] <din> krism: cool :)
[03:08] <EnCh4nt3r> I have problems with my cd/dvdrw rom... whenever I put cd/dvd in it, I get some weird files with weird names.... I need to umount and then mount the drive again so that I can see the fils that are written on the cd/dvd... anyone knows what might cause this?
[03:08] <krism> now if i could just get xinerama + opengl to play nicely ;)
[03:08] <phunkalicious> can anyone help me get my volume controls to work in dapper drake? gnome shows them adjusting the volume but it doesn't actually adjust the volume.  I have looked in gstreamer-properties and tried changing it from master to PCM but still, nothing. And thus I am sad. :(
[03:08] <Tom39Away> DB2, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/gaim ?
[03:08] <krism> it's wierd. no xinerama (3 sep. x sessions), opengl works fine. enable xinerama, *bam* no opengl
[03:08] <KnowledgEngi> din: the complete output of: Xorg -version is http://rafb.net/paste/results/Poudf042.html
[03:08] <DB2> nm, tx
[03:08] <DB2> tnx
[03:08] <stwelin> Quick question (sorry if this seems rather novice) but i cannot seem to get my apt-get command to find any packages i want to install.  It's like it's connected to a repository with only the essential Ubuntu files on it.
[03:09] <ZeZu> like the cdrom ?
[03:09] <din> KnowledgEngi: can you play any other files besides .mpg ?
[03:09] <din> The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
[03:09] <ZeZu> it doesn't just automagically connect to some repos.
[03:09] <din> i see that line in your last pastebin
[03:09] <KnowledgEngi> all video is black
[03:09] <ZeZu> you have to add them
[03:09] <samuli> zammit, you should have three second countdown at the very beginning of boot. push esc there and grub should show you a menu with recovery option.
[03:09] <KnowledgEngi> using every video player
[03:10] <din> KnowledgEngi: sounds like an xorg problem to me.
[03:10] <stwelin> For example, the Elinks package exists on packages.ubuntu.com, however 'apt-get install elinks' returns 'package elinks does not exist'
[03:10] <din> brb, gotta take the dog out.
[03:10] <KnowledgEngi> is possible that a problem is in mplayer.conf ?
[03:10] <krism> err. sorry.
[03:10] <sysdoc> Where (in what config file) is the email address used by qmail for messages sent to nonexistent users
[03:10] <krism> i've really got to disable middle click for my IRC terminal.
[03:10] <meheren> stwelin, sudo apt-get update
[03:11] <tritium> DB2: did you get your question answered?
[03:11] <nevyn> stwelin: enable universe and multivers
[03:11] <stwelin> meheren: already tried that.
[03:11] <DB2> yeah tnx
[03:11] <tritium> DB2: if not, sudo apt-get source gaim
[03:11] <stwelin> nevyn: where can i enable that?
[03:11] <meheren> stwelin, that will update all available packages list
[03:11] <DB2> :)
[03:11] <meheren> oh...? dunno what to tell you then
[03:11] <nevyn> stwelin: /etc/apt/sources.list or using synaptic click configure repositories
[03:12] <stwelin> nevyn: thank you.
[03:12] <filemover> can anyone tell me the best version of ubuntu to get
[03:12] <samuli> zammit, grub is the boot-manager program that then starts ubuntu or other operating systems if you have any.
[03:13] <DB2> laters
[03:13] <macgeek> how can I get Ubuntu online with DSL without a router? I have a DSL modem -> ethernet switch -> Ubuntu box, and I can't seem to get it online
[03:13] <meheren>  filemover, dapper drake
[03:13] <filemover> ok thnx Mehe
[03:13] <filemover> meheren
[03:13] <meheren> np
[03:14] <filemover> is there any good guides for setting it up
[03:14] <meheren> filemover, it's soooo easy
[03:14] <filemover> k
[03:14] <burivoy> Somebody help me with the X autostart&
[03:14] <filemover> ive got a torrent downloading at the moment
[03:14] <meheren> just burn a livecd/install cd and click install
[03:14] <filemover> k
[03:15] <filemover> thx
[03:15] <macgeek> is it even possible?
[03:15] <meheren> It walks you though (procram assumes your a ignorant noob...
[03:16] <wheel> i'll bet nobody knows how to add a directory to the installer.
[03:16] <stwelin> nevyn: i uncommented the 'universe' and 'multiverse' repositories, yet still apt-get does not seem to be able to find simple packages listed on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:16] <nevyn> did you update?
[03:16] <zammit> samuli, i currently have no operating systems installed, i'm attempting to install ubuntu, but it freezes during the install
[03:16] <meheren> http://pastebin.us/1406 any ideas?
[03:16] <samuli> zammit, aa, ok.
[03:16] <wheel> mehren: ignorance on parade?
[03:16] <zammit> samuli, i'm at a screen that says "boot:" i'm unfamiliar w/ paramters to be entered here
[03:16] <beerfan> tritium, that did it. I'm back up and working. thanks much.
[03:16] <zammit> samuli, ...after hitting "esc" in the installation menu
[03:17] <samuli> zammit, oh, ok. If you are just about to install then forget everything I said.
[03:17] <burivoy> I've installed some additional packages for  Gnome and after the next restart it occures that I am in atext mode.
[03:17] <wheel> nevyn: i have an entire kde distro in a directory. the stooopid instller refuses to se it.
[03:17] <samuli> zammit, so I take it you have the text-mode install cd?
[03:17] <burivoy> How to switch graphical mode again?
[03:17] <meheren> wheel, ?
[03:18] <wheel> meh: did you call a person new to linux "stupid?"
[03:18] <samuli> burivoy, try startx
[03:18] <burivoy> I did co
[03:18] <burivoy> so
[03:18] <meheren> wheel, no...?
[03:18] <samuli> burivoy, what did it put out?
[03:18] <kintaro> hi guys..how can i install xchat..not the xchat-gnome?
[03:18] <meheren> http://pastebin.us/1407 any ideas?
[03:19] <zammit> samuli, no i transferred over to text mode
[03:19] <phunkalicious> sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:19] <burivoy> samuli, but how to switch it on on a permanent basis?
[03:19] <stwelin> nevyn: okay, got it working now, thanks for the help. :] 
[03:19] <filemover> im getting this image on bittorrent at over 600 kb's a sec
[03:19] <wheel> phunk: beautiful!!!!!! :)
[03:19] <filemover> amazing
[03:19] <meheren>  filemover, wow!
[03:19] <bubuntu> how to make ubuntu mount a mp3-pendrive as writable? please
[03:19] <burivoy> Ctr+Alt+7 is empty it just didnot start
[03:19] <filemover> ive never seen it so quick
[03:20] <meheren> filemover, that's faster then you get when downloading from a sever
[03:20] <filemover> yeah puts http to shame
[03:20] <filemover> lol
[03:20] <meheren> yep
[03:20] <filemover> but thats bittorrent
[03:20] <filemover> if u have lots of seeds u got no worries
[03:21] <meheren> Any ideas why quake won't run?  http://pastebin.us/1407
[03:21] <wheel> file: that's what they all say. :)
[03:21] <kintaro> phunkalicious..there is an error.."E: Couldn't find package xchat"
[03:21] <meheren> filemover, it's only when you got no seeds...
[03:21] <samuli> burivoy, startx didn't start or show you a cursor with grayish background?
[03:21] <phunkalicious> kintaro, you will need to enable the universe and multiverse repositories first
[03:21] <wheel> cya. :)
[03:21] <phunkalicious> ubotu tell kintaro about repos
[03:22] <phunkalicious> :|
[03:22] <samuli> zammit, transferred over? what installation cd do you have?
[03:22] <kintaro> phunkalicious..thanks!
[03:22] <meheren>  http://pastebin.us/1407 why won't it work?
[03:22] <phunkalicious> no problem :D
[03:22] <[Wiebel] > are there any good gnome frontends for wifi, which support WPA
[03:22] <[Wiebel] > besides nm-applet
[03:22] <phunkalicious> what's wrong with nm-applet :(
[03:22] <filemover> whats quake
[03:22] <phunkalicious> i think there is one in the forums though :/
[03:23] <samuli> filemover, the game?
[03:23] <[Wiebel] > phunkalicious: NetworkManager causes loss overhere
[03:23] <Dr4g> (02:22:52) filemover: whats quake <<<--- wtf ?
[03:23] <filemover> k
[03:23] <meheren>  filemover, google it
[03:23] <[Wiebel] > phunkalicious: once in a while it just drops the connection
[03:23] <filemover> lol
[03:23] <phunkalicious> GTK Wifi Project, but I never used it before
[03:23] <passbe> i need a command line command to mute the system volume ?
[03:23] <phunkalicious> wierd, i've nver had that happen :O
[03:23] <meheren> quake is like an awsome old fps game
[03:23] <[Wiebel] > phunkalicious: its weird allright ;)
[03:23] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[03:23] <nevyn> meheren: quake old?
[03:24] <meheren> relativally
[03:24] <meheren> Im 14...
[03:24] <samuli> :)
[03:24] <meheren> so for me old.. yes
[03:24] <nevyn> sigh.. I'm 27
[03:24] <Dasnipa] [> 14... what kiddies
[03:24] <fiveiron> lol
[03:24] <meheren> lol
[03:24] <fiveiron> <-- 26
[03:24] <meheren> shutup
[03:24] <fiveiron> i still remember buying the doom demo on 2 floppy disks
[03:24] <nevyn> quake was like.. The game.. it required a PENTIUM ffs
[03:25] <ColdFyre> lol im un banned from here finally...
[03:25] <fiveiron> for $5
[03:25] <meheren> lol
[03:25] <Dasnipa] [> hehe
[03:25] <filemover> im just downloading a demo
[03:25] <Dasnipa] [> 14 man... just growin in the hippie hair eh?
[03:25] <nevyn> pentiums were so hot you could cook your breakfast on them
[03:25] <meheren> my dad still has doom on a old 68k mac running debian
[03:25] <nevyn> they NEEDED a FAN!!!
[03:25] <filemover> looks like a game of alien turf wars
[03:25] <filemover> lol
[03:25] <fiveiron> i had an issue of pc magazine with the headline "fastest pc in the world" and it was a p120
[03:25] <nevyn> everyone was shocked in the day at the idea of a cpu needing a fan
[03:26] <ColdFyre> i remember my 486 SX25
[03:26] <meheren> filemover, if you want to play doom (for free) intsall the packageprboom
[03:26] <ColdFyre> duke nukem 3d didnt even run on it
[03:26] <meheren> nevyn, woa lol!
[03:27] <meheren> *package prboom
[03:27] <samuli> ColdFyre, liar! Duke Nukem run on my 386.. I think.
[03:27] <samuli> ran
[03:27] <burivoy> Guys, could someone tell me, how to switch on graphical interface (X) on system startup?
[03:27] <meheren> why won't quake run??? http://pastebin.us/1407
[03:27] <ColdFyre> samuli:  on my system it would not run, it froze every time you loaded a level
[03:27] <pookey> hey all - I presume i can install a desktop from the server disk? is there a package I can install that will set it all up for me as a desktop machine?
[03:27] <meheren> burivoy apt-get install gdm
[03:27] <ColdFyre> i had to throw a 33mhz in for it to run
[03:27] <samuli> No, wait. I might've switched over to a pentium at that point.
[03:28] <ColdFyre> w/ a math co processor
[03:28] <ColdFyre> even then it was 10 fps
[03:28] <meheren> ColdFyre, 10..
[03:29] <ColdFyre> mmhmm
[03:29] <meheren> On my macbook I get 45 running doom
[03:29] <ColdFyre> doom is much less over head
[03:29] <ColdFyre> doom ran smooth
[03:29] <meheren> doom has to more proccesor intonsive
[03:29] <meheren> really?
[03:29] <meheren> oh!, ok
[03:30] <meheren> http://pastebin.us/1407, doesn't anyone have any ideas?
[03:30] <zarathaz> hi
[03:30] <burivoy> meheren, it tells that new sound package will be installed
[03:30] <ColdFyre> duke had a veavily modded version of the build engine
[03:30] <ColdFyre> heavily
[03:30] <meheren> burivoy,?
[03:30] <meheren> ah
[03:30] <burivoy> I meant only some configuration files to be fixed-up
[03:30] <meheren> burivoy, k
[03:30] <filemover> well that took the best part of 10 minutes to download ubuntu
[03:30] <filemover> lol
[03:30] <Advant-> Is it ok to get help in here?  Or will someone say go read the forums? ;)
[03:30] <meheren> filemover, wow...
[03:31] <burivoy> I've downloaded and installed some packages for Gnome
[03:31] <filemover> yeah ive got a good connection
[03:31] <meheren> Advant-, seek and ye shall recieve (hopefully)
[03:31] <Advant-> :)
[03:31] <burivoy> And after that I found that X doesn't start at system start-up
[03:31] <burivoy> How to fix it up?
[03:31] <meheren> dunno?
[03:31] <samuli> meheren, you probably need to copy over some files from the original quake 2 cd for it to work.
[03:31] <meheren> that's odd
[03:32] <Advant-> I just installed the latest ubuntu, and want to get my bcm4306 wireless card working, i've read a bunch of things, but not sure which forum posts were up to date with the latest ubuntu release
[03:32] <meheren> samuli, that's a prob
[03:32] <meheren> I don't own quake for linux
[03:32] <samuli> mehere, read the readme.
[03:32] <Advant-> When ubuntu loads, it gives some error about not being able to load some .fw file, and I think I need to update some about the symbolic links?
[03:32] <samuli> meheren, it's okay if you own a copy for windows.
[03:33] <meheren> samuli, I only own a copy for classic mac (system 5)
[03:33] <samuli> meheren, read the readme file.
[03:33] <meheren> or rather mac os 5.5
[03:33] <meheren> ok
[03:33] <meheren> man quake(2) ?
[03:34] <edju> Does ubuntu offer a modular KDE, or does one get the whole shebang upon installing?
[03:34] <samuli> meheren, I think it's in the /etc/quake2
[03:34] <Jemt> Greetz. Have this vulnerable http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/18874/info been fixed in Breezy/Dapper ?
[03:34] <samuli> but you could try if there's man page for quake :)
[03:34] <meheren> edju, whole shabang
[03:34] <meheren> ok :)
[03:35] <newbietolinux> hello
[03:35] <newbietolinux> anyone there i am new to this irc chat?
[03:35] <meheren> yes
[03:35] <meheren> were here
[03:36] <meheren> all 771 of us
[03:36] <meheren> (well not really)
[03:36] <newbietolinux> i am trying ubuntu linux and suse 10.1 what are your opinions?
[03:36] <phunkalicious> i'm just here in spirit really :/
[03:36] <edju> meheren, Thanks, Same is true of X too, then?  No modular?
[03:36] <newbietolinux> cool, you guys are great...
[03:36] <samuli> newbietolinux, I have to say I find ubuntu better
[03:36] <mazurskie> ditto
[03:36] <newbietolinux> i think this is why ubuntu is better support...
[03:36] <meheren> edju, dunno
[03:37] <newbietolinux> i am having a problem with dual monitors
[03:37] <meheren> edju, never goofed with X
[03:37] <samuli> hehe, who isn't? :)
[03:37] <phunkalicious> unless you are working at a company that runs windows servers or an AD domain, then i would go with suse :|
[03:37] <meheren> newbietolinux, what the bad news?
[03:38] <newbietolinux> i have 2 different monitors one saids it is out of resolution x and y?
[03:38] <meheren> Versy12
[03:38] <meheren> took me a month to figure it out
[03:39] <meheren> but then it didn't work...
[03:39] <newbietolinux> well why do i do?
[03:39] <meheren> arrg the focus follows mouse thing is annoying
[03:39] <samuli> newbietolinux, what graphics card do you have?
[03:39] <Jemt> newbietolinux: I'm not sure I understand you. Your monitor is using a wrong resolution ?
[03:39] <wheelswitch> is there any way of monitering the temperature of a usb hdd?
[03:39] <newbietolinux> i have the 6800 gtx 512
[03:39] <tale> can somebody tell me how to prevent software raid devices from being mounted at boot
[03:40] <newbietolinux> no the monitor is at the wrong x and y cords or somthing crazy
[03:40] <Jemt> newbietolinux: The monitor? Then move it by hand ;)
[03:40] <Jemt> newbietolinux: The "image" is not centered ?
[03:40] <newbietolinux> let me check that way i don't sound dumb
[03:41] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Cool :)
[03:41] <samuli> newbietolinux, it's probably just that the resolution it tries to reproduce isn't fit for the monitor.
[03:41] <meheren> samuli, yeh Ive had that prob with my mac
[03:41] <newbietolinux> back; it saids the signal freq is out of range?
[03:41] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Ah, ok
[03:41] <samuli> newbietolinux, I don't know for nvidia cards, but you could try and check out /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if there's entry for second monitor.
[03:42] <meheren> I have a 1280x1024 screen but the mac wants the screen to be 2054x1300
[03:42] <phunkalicious> nvidia has twinview for that kind of stuff
[03:42] <phunkalicious> but i don't know how to use it for sure :/
[03:42] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Can you start a Terminal from "Applications > Accessories", please
[03:42] <meheren> (2054x1300 is the max that the g4 supports)
[03:42] <newbietolinux> well i tryed ubuntu and suse they both have the dual monitor problem
[03:43] <newbietolinux> yes i can
[03:43] <Jemt> newbietolinux: The type 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and press enter
[03:43] <Jemt> The type = then type
[03:43] <filemover> ive burnt the CD what do i do now boot from it
[03:43] <ljlolel> i love ubutu
[03:43] <meheren> filemover, w32/64 or mac?
[03:43] <newbietolinux> you want me to type out the type = then type?
[03:43] <filemover> w32
[03:44] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Just type 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' in the terminal/console and press enter
[03:44] <meheren> put cd into drive
[03:44] <meheren> when computers boots hit F2
[03:44] <newbietolinux> okay roger, w8 1
[03:44] <meheren> that should bring you into bios
[03:44] <filemover> done
[03:44] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Ok :)
[03:44] <filemover> k
[03:44] <filemover> dont that
[03:44] <filemover> done
[03:45] <meheren> then set the computer to boot from cd as option 1
[03:45] <filemover> k
[03:45] <nosilver4u> i need help getting 2 xsessions running on a dual-head card
[03:45] <filemover> done
[03:45] <nosilver4u> anyone have any experience with that?
[03:45] <meheren> then go all the way to exit and hit exit(maybe quit...) and save (BE SURE TO SAVE)
[03:46] <meheren> I'll be right back have to bring my dog in for the night
[03:46] <Ylan> I need some help with ipod / usb issues
[03:46] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Well ?
[03:46] <filemover> im at the splash screen
[03:46] <filemover> its going to install
[03:46] <phaedrus44> woot  woot
[03:47] <filemover> it seems to be loading all this stuff
[03:47] <RafaelMontano> How do download a file in Ubuntu Server?
[03:47] <RafaelMontano> What command?
[03:47] <samuli> filemover, it's not installing. IT's just loading to the desktop
[03:47] <nosilver4u> Rafael: try wget
[03:47] <pookey> hi all, I presume i can install a desktop from the server disk? is there a package I can install that will set it all up for me as a desktop machine?
[03:47] <filemover> ok
[03:47] <filemover> is it loading into ram
[03:48] <samuli> pookey, ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <pookey> samuli: that's effectly the same as using the desktop disk ?
[03:48] <samuli> pookey, yeah. If you want just the core use gnome-core or kde-core
[03:48] <pookey> samuli: thanks :)
[03:48] <samuli> or xfce4 cor
[03:48] <samuli> e
[03:48] <edju> Not wanting to start a distro war , truly curious - why choose ubuntu rather than just using debian?
[03:48] <pookey> ug ;)
[03:48] <blanky> about how much space does an ubuntu base isntall take? I forget
[03:48] <blanky> I remember it takes 2 gigs or less
[03:49] <pookey> edju: it's far more upto date (I'm a fan of neither distro ;) )
[03:49] <blanky> edju, cause debian is old and crusty?
[03:49] <filemover> its playing music to me
[03:49] <pookey> edju: and, 6.06 has a 5 year server support promise
[03:49] <RafaelMontano> nosilver4u: Thanks downloading! :)
[03:50] <filemover> ive got a desktop now what do i do
[03:50] <Ylan> Anyone here well versed in ipod / usb issues?
[03:50] <interfear> can anyone recommend some cool desktop eye candy / toys for 6.06?
[03:50] <meheren> back
[03:50] <blanky> did you guys know that Seveas is my brother?
[03:50] <newbietolinux> back and did it
[03:50] <edju> Isn't ubuntu really debian ?
[03:50] <newbietolinux> sorry for the leave
[03:50] <blanky> edju, yes...no...
[03:50] <pookey> edju: it shares the package manager
[03:50] <meheren> are you in gnome yet?
[03:50] <BHSPitMonkey> edju, based on it
[03:50] <lido> anyone here run 6.06 server with bind9 for dns?
[03:50] <BHSPitMonkey> a lot of the rules are the same.
[03:50] <blanky> they take sid snapshots and path and make em better, send results back to debdev, and make it better
[03:50] <newbietolinux> i opened the X11/xorg.conf
[03:51] <meheren> filemover, has gnome loaded yet?
[03:51] <filemover> yeah
[03:51] <filemover> i figured it out
[03:51] <filemover> i just double clicked on install
[03:51] <meheren> ok :P
[03:51] <edju> It installs binaries, no?  Is there a choice to install progs from source?
[03:51] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Please remember to heighlight me by typing my nick (ie  'Jemt: Here is my message') - otherwise I don't see your messages
[03:51] <filemover> i have to select a time zone
[03:51] <Jemt> newbietolinux: You see a lot of text, right ?
[03:51] <meheren> if you have any troubles questions, just ask
[03:51] <newbietolinux> can u see me now
[03:52] <meheren> yeh, a bunch of stupid things at first
[03:52] <samuli> edju, yes, but why would you want to do that?
[03:52] <digitalhav0c> could some on tell what screen my Xgl is running on from this
[03:52] <digitalhav0c> digitalhav0c@zeus-desktop:~/ut$ sudo ps uax | grep Xgl
[03:52] <digitalhav0c> 1000     11793  3.5 13.1  77100 68020 ?        RL   21:44   0:12 Xgl -fullscreen :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer
[03:52] <digitalhav0c> 1000     12053  0.0  0.1   2884   816 pts/1    S+   21:50   0:00 grep Xgl
[03:52] <newbietolinux> i have your name highlighted
[03:52] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Yes, but highlight me by typing my name (that makes the line you type a different color on my screen)
[03:52] <pookey> samuli: to have the latest SVN build of fast moving packges perhaps? amarok and kopete are things i build a lot on my system
[03:52] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Makes it easier for me to track our conversation
[03:53] <Justinpirate> Hello everyone
[03:53] <Jemt> newbietolinux: <<[03:53] <samuli> pookey, I think he meant getting the sources from repositories.
[03:53] <filemover> well that worked ok it updated my time
[03:53] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Anyways, the file you opened is full of text, right ?
[03:53] <newbietolinux> jemt; i see
[03:53] <Jemt> newbietolinux: There you go! :)
[03:53] <newbietolinux> jemt yes
[03:53] <edju> samuli, Well, I don't mean the configure, make, make install route - I mean like gentoo's emerge. e.g., with its USE flags & all.  Ubuntu offer something like that?
[03:54] <samuli> edju, apt-source
[03:54] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Ok. Now I remember it, we'd better make a backup of the file
[03:54] <pookey> samuli: pretend he meant what I just said, beucase... it's a question I have anyway ;)
[03:54] <BHSPitMonkey> newbietolinux, type BHS and hit [TAB] , see what happens :)
[03:54] <samuli> edju, but anyways.. why? :)
[03:54] <newbietolinux> jemt: it states that i have one monitor generic and generic nvidia card
[03:54] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Just close the program (text editor) and type this in the console/terminal
[03:54] <Jemt> newbietolinux:
[03:54] <newbietolinux> jemt: okay
[03:54] <Ylan> When I try to copy files from my ipod to the computer, I get Buffer I/O errors on the system log and the process hangs forever.
[03:54] <newbietolinux> jemt: what did you want me to type?
[03:54] <Jemt> newbietolinux: 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup' <enter>
[03:54] <pookey> samuli: I needd to upgrade kopete yesterday from SVN, currently I'm a gentoo user so I could just re-emerge from the SVN ebuild... are there provisions in ubuntu to do it easily ?
[03:54] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Without the pings ( ' )
[03:55] <Ylan> I have tried a kernel without EFI support, with both a USB and a firewire connection, and the result is still the same.
[03:55] <samuli> pookey, I don't know. maybe checkinstall has that kind of functionality?
[03:55] <edju> samuli, Wouldn't that be more - uhhh - "molded" to a particular system?
[03:56] <samuli> edju, in theory you get better performance but in practise it's negligible.
[03:56] <pookey> edju: (unless I'm wrong) ubuntu is i686 compiled, on a desktop you will see very little different compared to a 'tuned' gentoo system (I'm a gentoo user, it's my OS of choice)
[03:56] <samuli> edju, and compiling takes ages :)
[03:56] <edju> samuli, I know, that's why I'm looking for something other than Gentoo.
[03:57] <Jemt> newbietolinux: I gotta go in a few minutes - You'd better hurry :)
[03:57] <newbietolinux> jemt: its done
[03:57] <pookey> edju: well, does compiling bother you *that* much? I don't consider it an issue personally.  it's a one off.
[03:57] <newbietolinux> jemt: i have a back up now of that config
[03:57] <samuli> jemt, gedit makes it's own backups by default btw.
[03:58] <filemover> its making a partition
[03:58] <edju> pookey, The problem is, I've made mistakes over time in Gentoo, and it's beginning to show.  Fixing them may be over my head.
[03:58] <javiolo> hi
[03:58] <samuli> they're called the.file~
[03:58] <pookey> edju: for exmaple ?
[03:58] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Interesting.. no errors? We forgot 'sudo' in front of the command
[03:58] <newbietolinux> thanks for the info i am learning
[03:58] <newbietolinux> jemt: no i did sudo
[03:58] <javiolo> if compiled an app from sources and then installed, later how do I uninstall it _
[03:58] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Good :)
[03:58] <newbietolinux> jemt: i know solaris
[03:58] <meheren> filemover, are you wiping your drive?
[03:58] <filemover> whats a good size for the partition
[03:58] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Ah, okay :)
[03:59] <filemover> no
[03:59] <meheren> Be very carefull
[03:59] <meheren> umm how big is hd?
[03:59] <filemover> it asked me if i wanted to and i said no
[03:59] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Open the xorg.conf file in gedit again (press arrow-up a few times to see the command again)
[03:59] <newbietolinux> jemt: i got it
[03:59] <samuli> javiolo, you need to have the sources on your harddrive and there make uninstall. I think.
[03:59] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Execute it <enter>
[03:59] <newbietolinux> jemt: i am not to much a newb
[03:59] <TuBF2> Lo. Anyone able to point me to the most recent LiveCD release of Ubuntu? Can't seem to find anything related on the download page
[03:59] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Ok :)
[03:59] <meheren> filemover, choose resize par and use free space
[04:00] <filemover> k
[04:00] <filemover> i did that
[04:00] <newbietolinux> jemt: got it
[04:00] <javiolo> samuli ok thanks
[04:00] <filemover> its doing stuff now
[04:00] <meheren> filemover, ok now how big is th hd?
[04:00] <edju> pookey, Well, modular X and nvidia, for one - a messed up world file for another.
[04:00] <meheren> ah ok...
[04:00] <carneous> a normal install of ubuntu server has no sshd?
[04:00] <filemover> 100 GB
[04:00] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Ok, now let's find 'Section "Monitor"'
[04:00] <meheren> filemover, woa
[04:00] <pookey> edju: yeah.. ok.. you're 'playing' with masked stuff, that's your own fault ;)
[04:00] <newbietolinux> jemt: got it
[04:00] <filemover> lol
[04:01] <TuBF2> Anyone able to point me to the most recent LiveCD release of Ubuntu? Can't seem to find anything related on the download page
[04:01] <filemover> its my laptop
[04:01] <meheren> filemover, use 50 gigs for ubuntu and 50 for winblows
[04:01] <Jemt> newbietolinux: In that section you will find HorizSync and VertRefresh. Comment these out by placing a # (hash) in front of each line
[04:01] <filemover> k
[04:01] <meheren>  filemover, my macbook only has 80
[04:01] <peope> I heard of an enterprise version of ubuntu. What is it called?
[04:01] <newbietolinux> jemt: it saids identifier, option, horizsync, and vertrefresh
[04:01] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Do you have 'Option    "DPMS"' in that section ?
[04:01] <newbietolinux> jemt:yes
[04:01] <edju> pookey, Mod X isn't masked now - not for x86, anyway.
[04:01] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Comment out the lines I just told you about then :)
[04:02] <filemover> yeah i talked to the guy at tandy and he said i needed a new hard drive and he sold me this
[04:02] <chotchki> hey guys whats the recommended way of rebuilding the ubuntu live cd with updates?
[04:02] <newbietolinux> jemt: roger just DPMS?
[04:02] <pookey> edju: oh? well, I'm not touching it yet, that's for sure ;)  I'll mask that out manually I think
[04:02] <Jemt> newbietolinux: ?
[04:02] <meheren> peope, I know of four kinds of ubuntu, ubuntu (duh) Xubuntu edubuntu and Kubuntu
[04:02] <Jemt> newbietolinux: "just" ?
[04:02] <newbietolinux> jemt: what did you want me to comment out?
[04:02] <meheren> filemover, wow
[04:02] <Jemt> Jemt >> newbietolinux: In that section you will find HorizSync and VertRefresh. Comment these out by placing a # (hash) in front of each line
[04:03] <newbietolinux> jemt: did it
[04:03] <filemover> its still doing stuff im on step 5 of 6
[04:03] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Now save the file
[04:03] <samuli> Jemt, are you sure about that? He's only having problems with the other monitor, right newbietolinux ?
[04:03] <meheren> ahok
[04:03] <newbietolinux> correct
[04:03] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Oh? You got two monitors ? :-S
[04:03] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Ah, bugger. Wasn't aware of that
[04:03] <newbietolinux> jemt: sorry that is correct
[04:03] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Sorry, My bad
[04:03] <klees> was sun-java5-bin taken off from the multiverse???
[04:04] <meheren> filemover, Umm im going to go play doom now so if you have prob ask someone will help you (hopefully)
[04:04] <klees> how can i install java??
[04:04] <samuli> newbietolinux, so the problem is that the other monitor is trying to duplicate the others resolution and apparently isn't doing good job at that.
[04:04] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Not sure how you can solve that. In general Ubuntu sucks then it comes to Dual Head
[04:04] <FunnyLookinHat> !JAVA
[04:04] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:04] <newbietolinux> jemt: i need to add the other monitor and graphics card as 2 of them correct?
[04:04] <mike930> does ubuntu have a built in firewall
[04:04] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, I don't know why it isn't in the multiverse anymore  :-/
[04:04] <FunnyLookinHat> it should be
[04:04] <filemover> k thnx for all yoru help Meheren it all seems to have gone smoothly
[04:04] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Sorry, can't help you. Dual Head/Monitor sucks big time in Ubuntu.
[04:05] <klees> is there a repo for me to install it from?
[04:05] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, it's stil there for me
[04:05] <FunnyLookinHat> in mutliverse
[04:05] <newbietolinux> jemt: thank you though; i guess i am still asking for help?
[04:05] <Jemt> newbietolinux: I think your best shot is using a resolution that both monitors support
[04:05] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, you sure you have multiverse enabled?
[04:05] <ryanakca> how do you make the font bigger on tty1? on ctrl-alt-f1...
[04:05] <klees> yes
[04:05] <klees> everything is checked
[04:05] <ryanakca> how do you make the font smaller on tty1? on ctrl-alt-f1...
[04:05] <Jemt> newbietolinux: Yes, go ahead. Someone might be able to help you - I doubt it though
[04:05] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, that won't do it
[04:05] <klees> under synaptic
[04:05] <ryanakca> ignore the first one
[04:05] <samuli> newbietolinux, there's a program called twinview to configure nvidia dual-monitors i've heard. Maybe you should try to get a look at that.
[04:05] <mike930> can someone tell me if ubuntu has a built in firewall
[04:05] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[04:06] <FunnyLookinHat> !pastebin
[04:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:06] <pop4488> Hi
[04:06] <newbietolinux> samuli: where could i find it?
[04:06] <Jemt> mike930: You can install Firestarter- great Firewall
[04:06] <javiolo> !iptables
[04:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[04:06] <Jemt> mike930: 'sudo apt-get install firestarter'
[04:06] <edju> So how does at-source work - does one pass flags to it?
[04:06] <samuli> newbietolinux, also on the www.ubuntuforums.org there's ought to be good tutorials about dual-heads with nvidia.
[04:06] <Methodeux> I'm having difficulties with my NVidia driver installation in Dapper Drake.  The provided BinaryDriverHowTo on the Ubuntu site isn't working..
[04:06] <javiolo> !tell mike930 about iptables
 I'm asking because I keep getting messages saying I'm behind a firewall and I haven't installed one
[04:07] <Jemt> mike930: Oh :)
[04:07] <edju> *at-source*apt-source*
[04:07] <pppoe_dude> is there a way to create a virtual network device that syncs IP addresses with my routers' IP?
[04:07] <samuli> edju, apt-get source
[04:07] <Jemt> mike930: Could be that your ISP (service provider) is providing limited access to the internet (some ports has been closed)
[04:08] <Methodeux> When I approach the point where I'm to run nvidia-glx-configure enable, it gripes about the xorg.conf file.  I perform the md5sum command it suggested, but the resulting xorg.conf couldn't seem to find the appropriate device to boot X.
[04:08] <klees> FunnyLookinHat, here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17968
 hum, have to check in on it
[04:08] <Jemt> mike930: Yep :)
[04:08] <samuli> newbietolinux, there's a package called nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver, maybe that is of help.
[04:08] <samuli> newbietolinux, you can get it by typing sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[04:09] <newbietolinux> samuli: i will try
[04:09] <samuli> newbietolinux, and be sure to check out the forums.
[04:09] <TuBF2> Argh, where can I download the LiveCD?
[04:09] <stephan21_> /usr/bin/azureus: line 34: exec: java: not found
[04:09] <newbietolinux> samuli: it works
[04:10] <edju> Maybe I'll give kubuntu a shot - about how much space for a default install?
[04:10] <newbietolinux> samuli: now what it didn't do anything?
[04:10] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, use this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17969
[04:11] <samuli> newbietolinux, check if you have launch icon on the applications menu?
[04:11] <klees> replace my file with that one??
[04:11] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, notice I added multiverse to lines 26,27 and 31,32
[04:11] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, ypu
[04:11] <lostinc> What desktop does the Alternate install CD install for under 192meg systems
[04:11] <samuli> newbietolinux, I'm sorry, but I really can't help you out much because I don't have an nvidia card.
[04:11] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, then sudo apt-get update
[04:11] <klees> k brb
[04:11] <TuBF2> Ubuntu LiveCD??
[04:11] <samuli> lostinc, gnome with ubuntu and kde with kubuntu
[04:12] <lostinc> ok I was wondering what set the Alternate install CD apart since it states it is or under 192 meg systems
[04:12] <newbietolinux> samuli: I don't see launch?
[04:13] <newbietolinux> samuli: under applications?
[04:13] <tale> lostinc, it uses the old ncurses based installer
[04:13] <samuli> newbietolinux, or perhaps system
[04:13] <lostinc> Oh I see
[04:13] <tale> lostinc, instead of the live cd method
[04:13] <klees> thx FunnyLookinHat that seems like it worked
[04:13] <newbietolinux> samuli: i don't see launch anywhere?
[04:14] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, sweet man
[04:14] <klees> i'll install it right now
[04:14] <samuli> newbietolinux, ok, then. just type sudo nvidia-settings
[04:14] <stephan21_> sudo update-alternatives --config java : shows java but when i try to run azuerurs it doesnt see it
[04:14] <Dagataka> what does this mean?> in /var/log/messages: localhost kernel: smb_proc_readdir_long: error=-13, breaking, localhost kernel: smb_proc_readdir_long: error=-2, breaking and localhost kernel: SMB connection re-established (-5) this is continious, I guess it has something to do with smbfs as that is how I'm mounting my networked drives manually?
[04:14] <stephan21_> /usr/bin/azureus: line 34: exec: java: not found
[04:14] <newbietolinux> samuli: if i right click i see create launcher?
[04:14] <FunnyLookinHat> klees, you may also want to add deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main to the lats line of your sources.list
[04:15] <cArNy> Sysinfo for 'linux': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ at 1300 MHz (2601 bogomips), HD: 19/109GB, RAM: 375/440MB, 103 proc's, 4.6d up
[04:15] <klees> sounds good
[04:15] <samuli> newbietolinux, you need to use ala carte menu editor to add launcher to menu.
[04:15] <TuBF2> Where can I download the latest Ubuntu LiveCD?
[04:15] <TuBF2> Where can I download the latest Ubuntu LiveCD?
[04:15] <TuBF2> Where can I download the latest Ubuntu LiveCD?
[04:15] <newbietolinux> samuli: i got the menu to come up with sudo
[04:15] <TuBF2> Bleh
[04:15] <userundefine> don't flood the chat
[04:15] <FunnyLookinHat> TuBF2, http://www.ubuntu.com
[04:16] <javiolo> !livecd
[04:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[04:16] <shad0w1e> anyone know if I should replace my athlon64 3000+ with an Opteron 146?
[04:16] <newbietolinux> samuli: shouldn't i download the latest nvidia drivers first?
[04:16] <TuBF2> ty
[04:16] <dli> shad0w1e, why not get a dual core?
[04:16] <userundefine> shad0w1e, no, why would you?  You can overclock the 3000 to Opteron performance if yo uwant
[04:16] <shad0w1e> I can get the opteron 146 for like $110
[04:16] <TheRealZorro> Grub doesnt install properly with Ubuntu Server edition 6.06
[04:16] <samuli> newbietolinux, You really should look into the forums and see how other people have fixed the issue :)
[04:16] <TheRealZorro> :(
[04:17] <TheRealZorro> any ideas?
[04:17] <newbietolinux> samuli: thank you...
[04:17] <shad0w1e> whats the real difference between opteron and 64?
[04:17] <shad0w1e> will opteron eat more power?
[04:17] <polpak> newbietolinux: fixed which issue?
[04:17] <kintaro> hi guys...how can i write a cd?
[04:17] <shad0w1e> gnomebaker comes with ubuntu
[04:17] <userundefine> shad0w1e, basically very little.  probably won't use much more power.
[04:17] <UKMatt> kintaro, what kind
[04:18] <dli> kintaro, apt-get install k3b
[04:18] <shad0w1e> K3B Is a superior burning program, however it will require you to install qt and a bunch of other stuff...
[04:18] <kintaro> write a iso file..is there a NERO on linux?i'm using gnome...
[04:18] <samuli> kintaro, easiest way is to open up places --> cd/dvd creator and copy stuff to that directory, then --> write to disc
[04:18] <userundefine> kintaro, yes, there is a nerolinux.  costs, however.
[04:18] <shad0w1e> kintaro, gnomebaker might already be on gnome
[04:18] <TheRealZorro> anyone have problems with grub?  I get "Missing Operating System" when I boot.  How can I fix it?
[04:18] <polpak> kintaro: put the blank cd in, it will prompt you for either data or music and open the appropriate program
[04:19] <kintaro> ok..thanks guys
[04:19] <polpak> !grub TheRealZorro
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about grub TheRealZorro - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:19] <polpak> !grub > TheRealZorro
[04:19] <polpak> rather
[04:19] <samuli> kintaro, you need to make iso or burn it?
[04:19] <godtvisken> Ubuntu doesn't come with gcc by default?
[04:19] <polpak> !build > godtvisken
[04:19] <kintaro> samuli..burn it
[04:19] <shad0w1e> so.. I guess I keep my athlon 64 3000+ then
[04:19] <javiolo> godtvisken download buil-essential
[04:19] <shad0w1e> thanks people for the suggestions
[04:19] <samuli> kintaro, right click on the iso file and select burn image to cd
[04:20] <javiolo> godtvisken sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:20] <TheRealZorro> *checking out the link*
[04:20] <kintaro> samuli..ok..i'll try that one
[04:20] <Geheimnis> I have a newbie question, how can I see who's online on a Linux box ? what's the command line ?
[04:20] <lufis> Are there any plans to replace ESD with Jack or PulseAudio in Ubuntu?
[04:20] <shad0w1e> Geheimnis
[04:20] <shad0w1e> who
[04:20] <ranunculoid> What folder do I put Win32 codecs in in ubuntu so that Totem can use them?
[04:20] <satafterh> hdparm /dev/hda
[04:20] <godtvisken> javiolo, thanks
[04:21] <javiolo> goftvisken np
[04:21] <Geheimnis> shad0w1e: thanks a lot
[04:21] <polpak> ranunculoid: it should be a .deb file and you sudo dpkg -i w32codecs.deb or whatever.. You probably will want to sudo apt-get install totem-xine also
[04:21] <satafterh> anyone know anything about setting hd to ultra dma 5? is it safe?
[04:21] <jojoman02> does gstreamer 0.10 (will all plugins and w32codecs) support aac decoding (from internet stream)??
[04:22] <stephan21_> can someone help me get Azuerus to see java
[04:22] <stephan21_> i know i have it
[04:22] <stephan21_> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[04:22] <polpak> stephan21_: first sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[04:22] <polpak> stephan21_: then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:23] <ralsheb> i tried to change my hostname but always getting unable to lookup [myhostname]   via gethostbyname() when i try to do things like change runlevel or modify files
[04:23] <stephan21_> polpak, i did that
[04:23] <polpak> stephan21_: and you'll probably want to choose number 3 on the list (the one from the sun package)
[04:23] <polpak> stephan21_: if you do it, it will work
[04:24] <Samus_Aran> can someone explain to me what synaptic means by "These packages will be Unchanged" when I go to install something ?  should these packages be changed ?  there are quite a few of them now, about 20
[04:24] <stephan21_> polpak, i only have       1        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java/..............usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java,
[04:24] <snoops> Samus_Aran pretty sure that means you need to upgrade to the latest versons of them with the update manager
[04:25] <polpak> stephan21_: well you want to choose whichever number has the java-1.5.0-sun
[04:25] <fowlduck> !install
[04:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:25] <stephan21_>       1        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java....i chose this and it still wont see it
[04:26] <stephan21_> ls: /usr/java: No such file or directory
[04:26] <stephan21_> Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...
[04:26] <fowlduck> does this apply to dapper as well?  Are the installers the same? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/I386
[04:27] <ralsheb> can someone direct me to correct wayt o change hostname via cmd line,i did and it messed things up
[04:27] <Samus_Aran> snoops: I think so, as I just reloaded the package database and then marked all upgrades, and there were about 20 items on the list
[04:27] <satafterh> is setting hd to ultra dma a good idea or is there likly to be issue's?
[04:28] <Samus_Aran> satafterh: if your drive supports it, its good to use it
[04:28] <Geheimnis> hmm, is there a command for removing non-empty directories, I tried --ignore-on-fail-on-non-empty with rmdir, but that doesn't seem to work
[04:28] <polpak> Geheimnis: rm -r
[04:28] <Geheimnis> thanks
[04:29] <Samus_Aran> satafterh: there are decent IDE drivers for most motherboards, I assume Ubuntu will auto-load any such modules.  there are a few flakey IDE drivers, but mostly it's for very old hardware
[04:29] <Samus_Aran> Geheimnis: be extremely careful using rm -r, the slightest typo and you lose your system [if you're root at the time]  or all your files
[04:30] <Geheimnis> I really sound like a newbie tonight.. well I obviously am one, but tonight it's really obvious.. heh
[04:30] <fowlduck> does anyone know if ubuntu's dapper and breezy text installs are identical? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/I386
[04:30] <Geheimnis> Samus_Aran: yeah, I made sure I was in the right directory :)
[04:30] <BHSPitMonkey> Samus_Aran, that's a deserved punishment for someone who likes to play root all the time
[04:30] <RafaelMontano> UBUNTU ROX
[04:30] <Samus_Aran> Geheimnis: after a typo or two over the years, I tend to use a file manager to erase directory structures, as it is less prone to accident (e.g. I use "mc .", select dir with Insert, F8)
[04:31] <Geheimnis> I installed Ubuntu Server Edition on one computer so I have to learn how to work with the command prompt
[04:31] <Samus_Aran> BHSPitMonkey: well for me, I'd lose nothing important as root ... I have several hundred thousand files under my user
[04:31] <RafaelMontano>  Im installing ISP Config right now, I did the Perfect Setup http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[04:33] <ralsheb> how can i fix my hostname,i changed it (or so i thought) but messed up ,i cant sudo many things
[04:33] <Samus_Aran> while people seem to be listening in here at the moment, I have a question that's been bugging me for a few weeks.  I've tinkered with it for a while, and have come up with absolutely nothing.  I can't get fetchmail to work for the life of me
[04:33] <polpak> !hostname > ralsheb
[04:33] <Geheimnis> oh by the way, any comments about LAMP server? is it a good thing to install that instead of the "regular" installation?
[04:33] <polpak> ralsheb: you're going to have to correct the problem after booting into recovery mode
[04:34] <baconbacon> !vmware-player
[04:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about vmware-player - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:34] <Samus_Aran> oops, not fetchmail, postfix
[04:34] <baconbacon> !vmware
[04:34] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[04:34] <MrLightUser> I'm getting a bit frustrated. everything looks like its working.. except the networking tools keep screwing up my network.
[04:34] <Samus_Aran> I have a config file from my previous 2 distros, which has worked fine with stock fetchmail, but no matter what I do I can't get the postfix daemon to start.  and I get no errors showing up anywhere, either
[04:34] <ralsheb> polpak i tried using telinit to goto rl1 but gives me that gethostbyname error
[04:34] <Samus_Aran> s/fetchmail/postfix/g
[04:34] <MrLightUser> I have to manually enter my dns. this box resets the resolv.conf so frequently that I had to chmod 444 it
[04:34] <Samus_Aran> (I use fetchmail to pass my pop3 mail off to postfix)
[04:34] <polpak> Geheimnis: nah.. you can install the LAMP stuff in a normal install.. Though LAMP is overrated.. I like LAPR or LAPP
[04:34] <MrLightUser> so that the scripts couldn't touch it, and now it works.
[04:34] <Dimensions> hiee again ... normally how much space for swap is good ... (good not jus enuff or needed )
[04:35] <baconbacon> Dimensions: 2x the RAM + a bit
[04:35] <Samus_Aran> polpak: what are lapr and lapp ?  postgre I assume for the p
[04:35] <MrLightUser> (I am not in control over the dhcp server, and I have to use it)
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know why when I download and install a .deb file no desktop or startbar icons are created???
[04:35] <pinky> Hi, is there a frontend for FCE Ultra. or a NES emulator with a GUI?
[04:35] <samuli> Dimensions, two times the ram is recommended unless you have plenty of ram (more than 1 gig)
[04:35] <Geheimnis> polpak: oh ok.. I don't need much anyway.. just experimenting hehe
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> seems kinda retarded if you ask me
[04:35] <eric42> polpak: I would have to agree lighttpd all the way for me.
[04:36] <Geheimnis> what does LAMP stand for anyway?
[04:36] <MrLightUser> I haven't been able to disable the pointerstick. I commented out all of the relevant lines in xorg.conf.. and restarted x.. but it still freaks out and makes the mouse not work.
[04:36] <baconbacon> Linux Apache MySQL PHP
[04:36] <Samus_Aran> Dimensions: it depends entirely on your computers usage patterns.  if you have 2GiB of RAM and you only use your web browser, you're never going to touch swap.  on the other hand, if you're crazy like me you can use gigs of swap even with 1.25GiB of RAM
[04:36] <fowlduck> Linux Apache MySQL PHP
[04:36] <MrLightUser> I can disable my touchpad.. but that works!
[04:40] <ralsheb> if my sudo is all messed up how do i change my /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname?
[04:40] (tale/#ubuntu) WTF?  Where are all these users coming from?
[04:41] <polpak> a couple of the servers died I think
[04:41] <Milchmann> the server did kick me ;)
[04:41] <polpak> Samus_Aran:  as I was about to say LAPR (Linux Apache PostgreSQL Ruby)  or LAPP (Linux Apache, PostgreSQL Python) are superior to LAMP IMO (I prefer Python, but Ruby is ok)
[04:41] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know why .deb files don't create icons on desktop/startbar
[04:41] <Krhis> Where are here to get YOU tale! XD
[04:41] <FunnyLookinHat> that was pleasant
[04:41] <sharky> what is the most gui library for linux?
[04:41] <duckx0r> welcome back everyone :D
[04:41] <mazurskie> wtf?
[04:41] <sharky> what is the most efficient gui library for linux?
[04:41] <Krhis> Split.
[04:42] <Krhis> sharky, I read your first question.
[04:42] <ralsheb> how do i change a file that needs sudo when my sudo is messed up b/c hostnames in hosts and hostname file differ
[04:42] <sharky> Krhis, yeah sorry forgot an important word...
[04:42] <Sirrush> Hey guys wondering how you guys feel about Edgy?
[04:42] <Krhis> Ah, it's cool then.
[04:42] <sharky> Krhis,  what is the most efficient gui library?
[04:43] <Lord_Maynoth> ding ding ding ding
[04:43] <Krhis> Any suggestions on how to restore gedit's default?
[04:43] <Samus_Aran> sharky: "xlib" ... but it's not particularly viable
[04:44] <cpaek72> anyone here run the 7800gtx go mobile card from nvidia with ubuntu?
[04:44] <Samus_Aran> Krhis: erase or move your ~/.gedit/ folder
[04:44] <ralsheb> if my sudo is messed up how can i change a hostname file that requires sudo?
[04:45] <ljlolel> why is there no documentation for multiple edit_inline's in my own custom forms?
[04:45] <Samus_Aran> ralsheb: the easiest way is to boot into your Ubuntu Live Installer CD
[04:45] <polpak> Samus_Aran: python is much more clear, extensable, and concise than php IMO
[04:45] <Krhis> Samus_Aran, yes I know that. I searched my home dir and deleted everything with gedit-2 in its name hoping it would restore.
[04:45] <tale> has anyone got nxserver desktop edition working with dapper?
[04:45] <Krhis> There in no ~/.gedit/ :(
[04:45] <polpak> ralsheb: I said already you'll need to boot into recovery mode.. when you restart your computer you hit esc and select it from the menu
[04:45] <Krhis> Samus_Aran, and yes, I'm not a noob. ^^
[04:46] <eric42> Here is a tough one.  Does anyone now how to automate module-assistant to auto-install when you install new kernels?
[04:46] <Krhis> Samus_Aran, the problem seems to be with gconf. That's what I'm asking about.
[04:46] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone here know why .deb files dont install icons for the program
[04:46] <Samus_Aran> Krhis: okay.  I have a ~/.gedit/ directory, I used tab-completion in my IRC client =p
[04:47] <polpak> Lord_Maynoth: because the package maintainer didn't include them. you can make some yourself if you like
[04:47] <eric42> Lord_Maynoth: they should if they were prepared properly by the maintainer.
[04:47] <Krhis> Lord_Maynoth, if it's package is compiled correctly it will have icons. Are you searching in the right places?
[04:47] <Lord_Maynoth> well they were for ubuntu I have tried several different .deb files
[04:47] <Lord_Maynoth> i just download the forstwire deb
[04:47] <Lord_Maynoth> it installed but no icons
[04:47] <Krhis> LoneShadow, again; are you searching in the right places?
[04:47] <Lord_Maynoth> I will just stick with automatix i guess
[04:48] <shwag> does ubuntu have ntpdate auto running somewhere ?
[04:48] <Krhis> nb then. >.>
[04:48] <Lord_Maynoth> from the developers site
[04:48] <Krhis> Samus_Aran, ah ok ^^.
[04:48] <LoneShadow> Krhis: what do you mean ?
[04:48] <Samus_Aran> so does anyone know how I can possibly get postfix to run on Ubuntu ?  if I install the package fresh, it doesn't install /etc/init.d/postfix (even if I delete this file manually, it won't reinstall it) and if I use an old copy of the postfix script it still won't run, and won't produce any error messages
[04:48] <sharky-> what is the most efficient gui library for linux?
[04:48] <Krhis> LoneShadow, the icons.
[04:48] <LoneShadow> err
[04:48] <LoneShadow> I didnt ask anything about icons :)
[04:49] <Samus_Aran> I've no idea why postfix is so totally not willing to run for me on Ubuntu
[04:49] <LoneShadow> "anyone installed a livecd onto a 1gb usb drive ?"
[04:49] <LoneShadow> this is what I asked
[04:49] <nalioth> Samus_Aran: try #postfix
[04:49] <Krhis> LoneShadow, sorry, didn't hit tab enough. :P
[04:49] <Sirrush> So anyone here running edgy?
[04:49] <dli> LoneShadow, I couldn't get it work for ubuntu
[04:49] <LoneShadow> for a moment I thought someone answered my question :)
[04:49] <LoneShadow> dli: so are using dsl ?
[04:49] <LoneShadow> you*
[04:50] <cpaek72> guys, i really need some help with my 7800gtx go card. I can't get 3d to work on my ubuntu setup and every time i install the nvidia drivers from automatix, they leave my screen blank. I am running a 64bit amd  machine with the 7800gtx go card. Any ideas where I can get the correct driver?
[04:50] <dli> LoneShadow, no, I installed gentoo on it, 500MB, with gnome
[04:50] <sproingie> sharky-: most cpu-efficient, probably enlightenment.  as for developer productivity, it depends.  mostly a matter of personal preference
[04:50] <LoneShadow> hmm
[04:50] <LoneShadow> dli: what problem did you have ?
[04:50] <dli> LoneShadow, with ubuntu livecd, the initrd script seeks only cd-rom, not usb
[04:51] <LoneShadow> in my case, I have different embedded system which runs on a 1GB CF card, so trying to load onto it
[04:51] <LoneShadow> aah, there is a howto to fix that issue :P
[04:51] <LoneShadow> but is the gentoo installation very straight forward ?
[04:52] <Sirrush> mmm no
[04:52] <rjordan> loneshadow, no, not really. the folks in #gentoo can assist though.
[04:52] <dli> LoneShadow, I can take the ubuntu livecd, use my kernel, recreate the squashfs, it should work
[04:52] <LoneShadow> dli: yea
[04:52] <dli> LoneShadow, gentoo has better docs than ubuntu
[04:52] <LoneShadow> dli: I am going try ubuntu livecd once
[04:52] <Sirrush> LoneShadow,  depends on the stage install you do
[04:53] <Sirrush> stage 4 iirc is a regular install
[04:53] <filemover> hi does it generally take a long time to partition a hard drive
[04:53] <dli> LoneShadow, you may try, maybe they already fixed the initrd scripts
[04:53] <ralsheb> how can i change runlevels without sudo?
[04:53] <Sirrush> others you compule all your software and can be a pain
[04:53] <sproingie> filemover: resizing a partition can take a while
[04:53] <rjordan> filemover, no, unless it's reallly big.
[04:53] <LoneShadow> Sirrush: my box is a msntv box with hacked bios and modified stage2 file
[04:53] <filemover> ok
[04:53] <dli> filemover, partitioning is only about partition table, so takes no time
[04:53] <sproingie> filemover: otherwise it's nearly instantaneous
[04:53] <filemover> its about 17 GB
[04:53] <brownegg> ubuntu doesn't include a gui file manager with the base packages?
[04:54] <dli> brownegg, nautilus
[04:54] <sharky-> sproingie, well usually i'd care about usability and portability but I want the gui to be extremely effiecient and take very little memory
[04:54] <brownegg> hmm
[04:54] <LoneShadow> I can load linux, but getting to make the dsl distro is a pain, so will try with ubuntu later
[04:54] <filemover> its resizing i think
[04:54] <Sirrush> So I am figuring you know what you are doing LoneShadow
[04:54] <sproingie> filemover: if you're resizing a partition with existing data, it effectively has to defrag that part first
[04:54] <filemover> ok
[04:54] <filemover> i get it
[04:54] <rjordan> Can someone assist me with a udev issue?
[04:54] <filemover> there seems to be a lot of activity
[04:54] <LoneShadow> I kinda know, being a lil lazy to do the extra configs for my setup :P
[04:54] <rjordan> My NIC is consistently renamed to eth0_temp upon reboot. I've deleted my z25persistent-net.rules that told it to do that, rebooted, and still it is renamed. In addition, the MAC addresses for both eth0 and eth1 are reset to the same incorrect numbers everytime. um... help?
[04:54] <dli> LoneShadow, the initrd must be able to locate the booting device, that's the problem, you couldn't use " root=/dev/sda1"
[04:54] <brownegg> dli, where is that?  seems it should be included in the system dropdown menu
[04:55] <sproingie> sharky-: qt and gtk both have embedded versions that are leaner on memory than their desktop counterparts
[04:55] <LoneShadow> dli: for my setup, root will be /dev/hda2
[04:55] <dli> brownegg, click folders on your desktop, that's nautilus
[04:55] <Sirrush> So any of you guys running Ubuntu Edgy or no?
[04:55] <brownegg> hmm ok
[04:55] <dli> LoneShadow, then, it won't work, if you plug it in another box
[04:55] <sharky-> sproingie, will the embedded version still run on desktops?
[04:56] <LoneShadow> dli: I will be installing on a Compact flash card and it will sit inside the msntv box
[04:56] <LoneShadow> so its not problem :D
[04:56] <samuli> Sirrush, join #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <LoneShadow> so its not a problem :D
[04:56] <sproingie> sharky-: of course.  interoperating with other gnome or qt apps might be tricky, since they won't link in the full complement of libs
[04:57] <Sirrush> samuli,  Thanks buddy :)
[04:57] <kintaro> hi guys..i have a 1400x1050 monitor resolution..but after installing ubuntu..and check on resolution preferences..its just 1280x1024.how to enable my 1400x1050..i have a inte 945GM chipset and integrated vga..
[04:57] <Samus_Aran> nalioth: this is an Ubuntu package problem.  I've been using the same postfix configuration over 2 distros and 3 installs without issue
[04:57] <sharky-> sproingie, i see i'll have to check out how much better the embedded version is
[04:57] <Samus_Aran> nalioth: I just can't get Ubuntu's postfix to do anything at all
[04:58] <nalioth> Samus_Aran: have you filed a bug on this?
[04:58] <sproingie> sharky-: you probably wont notice much difference on a desktop, since you're probably rendering it to X anyway
[04:59] <sproingie> sharky-: most of the savings of the embedded toolkits comes from rendering to the framebuffer
[04:59] <sproingie> sharky-: that and they're usually compiled with -Os instead of -O2
[05:00] <rjordan> Doesn't anyone have an idea??
[05:00] <nbx909> hey
[05:00] <nbx909> i need to clone an ubuntu hd to and other hd
[05:00] <nbx909> gparted won't copy it 1:!
[05:00] <nbx909> 1:1*
[05:00] <Krhis> Any suggestions on how to restore gedit's defaults?
[05:00] <rjordan> nbx909: if you need 1:1 you can use 'dd'.
[05:01] <nbx909> rjordan, the whole drive?
[05:01] <nbx909> and mbr
[05:01] <sharky-> sproingie, i'm not sure if rendering to the framebuffer is going to be enough of a saving to warrent using the embedded version
[05:01] <Krhis> (hint: gconf issue?)
[05:01] <rjordan> nbx909, if you're in a livecd and neither is mounted and the drives are identical you should, in theory, be able to dd one to the other.
[05:01] <klees> is there a way i can change Rythmbox from being a preferred app????
[05:02] <rjordan> it would copy every bit
[05:02] <nbx909> rjordan, okay what would be the command?
[05:02] <klees> i would like Amarok instead
[05:02] <sharky-> sproingie, also found a few sources on optimizing gtk+ code
[05:02] <sproingie> sharky-: not likely to be much difference if you change the defaults to using typical desktop libs anyway.  mostly compiler flags, leaving out optional features, linking with uclibc instead of glibc, etc
[05:02] <rjordan> dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
[05:02] <[NP] Tangent> ugh, JACK isn't starting... any ideas why this might be?
[05:02] <sproingie> sharky-: something you'd probably want to do in a chroot.  still worth a shot
[05:02] <nbx909> rjordan, and that will copy the mbr as well?
[05:03] <DBO> filemover, remove your now playing script
[05:03] <sproingie> np: Culture Club - Karma Chameleon
[05:03] <nbx909> heh
[05:03] <sproingie> np: New Kids on the Block - Hanging Tough
[05:03] <sproingie> oh damn
[05:03] <deFrysk> ?
[05:03] <rjordan> yes, -> http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/cgi-bin/man-cgi?dd
[05:03] <DBO> sproingie, same to you
[05:04] <sproingie> DBO: as if that was real 8-/
[05:04] <nbx909> rjordan, okay thank you
[05:04] <DBO> sproingie, sorry, but funny detector needs some work =P
[05:04] <rjordan> nbx909, NP.
[05:04] <Judas_Himself> someone mentioned that with mplayers mozilla plugin you could save streaming video to your hard drive
[05:04] <Judas_Himself> can anyone help me with that?
[05:05] <slowz3r> How can i access my other HDD thats runnin windows so i can transfer files oveR?
[05:06] <notamisfit> if pmount isn't picking it up, make a fstab entry, type ntfs and mount it
[05:07] <brownegg> so i'm going thru synaptic, looking for packages to remove
[05:07] <DBO> filemover, you can let one of the ops know when you have turned off your script
[05:07] <rjordan> Help please...
[05:07] <brownegg> and i pick stuff like lao language support and it claims it's going to remove ubuntu desktop too
[05:07] <brownegg> that doesn't seem cool
[05:07] <sproingie> brownegg: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package
[05:08] <sproingie> brownegg: removing it just means you're no longer tracking the standard build.  this shouldn't ever be a problem
[05:08] <brownegg> ahhh ok
[05:08] <brownegg> thanks
[05:08] <ralsheb> should i be able to mount my hdd that runs ubuntu from the recovery cd?
[05:08] <brownegg> i'm like, damn!
[05:08] <DarkElf109> Anyone here know hot do get Remote Desktop (vino) working with AIGLX/Compiz? I think I've narrowed it down to xdamage, but I can't figure out a way to disable it
[05:09] <DarkElf109> how to*
[05:11] <tga> hey, how can I identify what process has a port open?
[05:12] <tga> netstat -p doesn't show anything
[05:12] <DosBubba>    -p, --program
[05:12] <DosBubba>        Show the PID and name of the program to which each socket belongs.
[05:12] <DosBubba> Adding -p should show something. :/
[05:12] <DarkElf109> Anyone here know how to get Remote Desktop (vino) working with AIGLX/Compiz? I think I've narrowed it down to xdamage, but I can't figure out a way to disable it
[05:13] <tga> DosBubba, it shows "-"
[05:13] <DosBubba> tga, What's the full command you're typing?
[05:13] <tga> lsof isn't very helpful either
[05:13] <tga> DosBubba, netstat -apn
[05:14] <tga> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:57467           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     -
[05:15] <DosBubba> tga, Are  you running it as root or a normal user?
[05:15] <tga> DosBubba, sudo
[05:15] <ColdFyre>  20:15:56 up 5 days, 20:38,  3 users,  load average: 16.02, 5.63, 2.35
[05:16] <RafaelMontano> How do I add a mysql database?
[05:16] <tga> RafaelMontano, read the mysql tutorial in the manual
[05:16] <DosBubba> tga, I'm guessing it's listening in kernel space then.
[05:16] <tga> DosBubba, great, so what is it?
[05:18] <tga> oh well, gotta move
[05:18] <tga> thanks DosBubba
[05:18] <nbx909> hello
[05:18] <Pontius_PiRate> howdy
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> !wine
[05:18] <nbx909> it errors
[05:19] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:19] <nbx909> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/hda/ of=/dev/hdb/
[05:19] <nbx909> dd: opening `/dev/hda/': Not a directory
[05:19] <DarkElf109> So...no ideas on how to disable xdamage in vino?
[05:19] <acebo> this may be a stupid question, but: is there any official info about xgl and compiz in Ubuntu docs yet? (excluding forums, unless it's from devs)
[05:19] <FunnyLookinHat> acebo, kinda sorta...
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> !xgl
[05:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:20] <DarkElf109> nbx909: Remove the trailing slashes
[05:20] <nbx909> okay
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> acebo, check out that link and hangout in #ubuntu-xgl to get it workin if you wish
[05:20] <Samus_Aran> assholes all of you
[05:20] <nbx909> ty
[05:20] <Samus_Aran> i hate all of you assholes
[05:20] <Samus_Aran> all you die
[05:20] <acebo> Thanks FunnyLookinHat
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> Samus_Aran, please don't be vulgar.
[05:21] <DarkElf109> !language
[05:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:21] <acebo> What are the general results of running on integrated intel? Any good news for a low-end laptop user? :P
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> acebo, err.. don't try I already did  ^_^;;
[05:21] <Kr0ntab> so does anyone know if one can use linux based OBEX tools (or some other method) with the RAZR phone to transfer files back and forth?
[05:21] <DarkElf109> acebo: I'm running AIGLX/Compiz. I love it
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> DarkElf109, with Intel graphics?!
[05:21] <DarkElf109> FunnyLookinHat: i915 =)
[05:21] <acebo> haha
[05:21] <Kr0ntab> not really ubuntu specific... but eh...
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> Holy crap!  I have 915 I should give it another try!
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> acebo, go for it man!
[05:22] <DarkElf109> AIGLX is the key
[05:22] <DarkElf109> Can't run on nVidia, but runs like a dream on lower end stuff
[05:22] <FunnyLookinHat> !AIGLX
[05:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about AIGLX - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:22] <FunnyLookinHat> What is AIGLX as opposed to XGL?
[05:22] <DarkElf109> Just search in the forums for it...there's a guide with somewhere between 70 and 150 pages...that's the one I followed, word for word
[05:22] <DBO> FunnyLookinHat, AIGLX is an extension of Xorg, Xgl runs on top of Xorg, both provide an OpenGL rendering layer for the desktop
[05:22] <DarkElf109> No idea how it relates. Just takes its place, somehow
[05:23] <FunnyLookinHat> DBO, ahh ok.   Thanks man!
[05:23] <DarkElf109> Oh, well, now I'm informed =)
[05:24] <DarkElf109> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx
[05:24] <lwizardl> how come it takes hp printers using cups forever to print? just says processing...
[05:24] <FunnyLookinHat> DarkElf109, thanks man
[05:24] <DarkElf109> Oh, and use the quinn versions, not vanilla. Lots of optimizations
[05:24] <DarkElf109> Eh, no problem. I was as surprised as you were when it worked =P
[05:24] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, AIGLX is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx
[05:24] <notamisfit> it has to go through all the hplip crap
[05:24] <FunnyLookinHat> ,AIGLX is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx
[05:24] <FunnyLookinHat> DBO, Do you have rights to create an entry for something on the bot?
[05:24] <DBO> FunnyLookinHat, I do not
[05:25] <DBO> FunnyLookinHat, mostly because I havent asked for it
[05:25] <FunnyLookinHat> DBO,  : )
[05:25] <DBO> FunnyLookinHat, Ill add that to the #ubuntu-xgl topic
[05:25] <DarkElf109> FunnyLookinHat: Only thing not working in AIGLX right now, as far as I know, is that the Water plugin doesn't work
[05:26] <FunnyLookinHat> DBO, good call
[05:26] <DarkElf109> Probably because it relies on pixel shaders, but, hen again, I haven't peeked at the code, so, just a guess
[05:26] <DarkElf109> then*
[05:26] <DarkElf109> Bah...can't type tonight
[05:26] <DBO> DarkElf109, Water does use pixel shaders
[05:26] <DBO> DarkElf109, also the new frag and copacity plugins (not even in quinn yet) use pixel shaders
[05:27] <DarkElf109> DBO: Explains why they're not in quinn yet
[05:27] <DBO> DarkElf109, they are not in quinn because they are not stable yet, quinn is not opposed to pixel shaders
[05:27] <DBO> I mean they are not even close to semi-stable
[05:28] <phunkalicious> someone please help me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1253550&postcount=6 :(
[05:28] <phunkalicious> i have tried so hard to get this to work :(
[05:28] <DarkElf109> DBO: Oh, well, ok then...I've not read much on his philosophies, but it seemed to me to be a viable reason not to include them.
[05:29] <acebo> Well, it'd be cool to play around with the 3D but.. man, I just got Ubuntu tweaked just where I like it.. I don't think I'll mess with it for a little bit :P
[05:29] <DBO> DarkElf109, quinn is a she =P  And the pixel shaders will be required for more advanced plugins, somethings like blur will need them
[05:29] <doughboy> Which is better in everyones opinion if you need to run an microsoft office xp. Codeweaver's Crossover or VMware ?  Which one does the best job?
[05:29] <wizzlefish> how do you force quit an application?
[05:30] <DarkElf109> DBO: Well, see? I'm totally uninformed, and now, fairly certain that my advances into the realm of OpenGL rendering on my desktop are at a stand-still
[05:30] <FunnyLookinHat> doughboy, you could try wine  : )
[05:30] <DBO> wizzlefish, from terminal killall program
[05:30] <FunnyLookinHat> Though I don't know how well it works.
[05:30] <phunkalicious> well crossover doesn't do outlook i'm pretty sure :|
[05:30] <DarkElf109> wizzlefish: From the command line: killall -9 program
[05:30] <polpak> doughboy: vmware will have fewer issues, but will require you to actually have a windows license
[05:30] <DBO> DarkElf109, no, compiz does recognize many users do not have pixel shaders, and furthermore lots of effects simply dont call for them
[05:31] <DarkElf109> doughboy: VMWare is an outright machine emulator. It'll work flawlessly, yeah, but you need a windows license
[05:31] <sasquatch> hey, does anyone know why the single core kernel would work with my wireless card but not the dual core?
[05:31] <polpak> doughboy: also, I don't see the incentive to using office xp in the first place since theres open office and Evolution
[05:31] <sasquatch> the drivers are there... it just doesn't detect the interface
[05:32] <cypherdust> i need some help with apt-get
[05:32] <cypherdust> i tried to install vmware
[05:32] <DarkElf109> DBO: True, but at this point, from what I've seen, the modules are moving closer to the gimmicky side than the usability side. The cube setup, if anything, finally got me to use virtual desktops effectively
[05:32] <phunkalicious> but evolution vs outlook? come on now...
[05:32] <cypherdust> and something went wrong
[05:32] <DarkElf109> DBO: Even if the newer ones can run on my system, I'm not even sure if I want to run them =P
[05:32] <cypherdust> now it ask to config everytime i install
[05:32] <cypherdust> is there a way to get rid of the config apt is running
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> doughboy, you could always use VMWare with ReactOS
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> doughboy, that's free & free
[05:33] <DBO> DarkElf109, some of them are, but a lot of them are moving towards useful things like blurred transparency.  You have to move in baby steps with this kind of thing
[05:33] <doughboy> Cool. Thanks FunnyLookinHat
[05:33] <DarkElf109> DBO: Well, I'll see how it progresses...In the meantime, I'll spend another half hour a day playign with the wobbly windows
[05:33] <DarkElf109> FunnyLookinHat: How's ReactOS coming along? I've heard a bit about it, but never really checked it out
[05:34] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[05:34] <wubrgamer> issue
[05:34] <wubrgamer> plelas
[05:34] <whyami> cypherdust: I'm not sure I understand the problem but if solving it includes finding an app and killing it, you can always find the app with the command "ps auxw". Then find the process # and do "sudo kill <proc #>"
[05:34] <phunkalicious> one sentence per line plz :/
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> DarkElf109, It's come VERY fary in the past year.  : )  I think it will be "stable" and usable within the next 1-2 years
[05:34] <wubrgamer> sry
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> DarkElf109, then again, I consider most "unstable" packages and releases good enough for me
[05:34] <DarkElf109> FunnyLookinHat: Hrm...I'll have to try it out then...Time to add another CD to the stack of linux disks I need to try =P
[05:34] <phunkalicious> no i think he means everytime he runs apt-get it asks him to keep configuring something with dpkg :|
[05:34] <FunnyLookinHat> DarkElf109, it's still safer to use an unstable linux install vs. windoze
[05:34] <wubrgamer> i tried to connect to an ftp server, and well, i can't get rid of the entry
[05:35] <wubrgamer> so i've got these weird icons
[05:35] <DarkElf109> FunnyLookinHat: I run my web/smb/time/tor/UT2004 server on Debian unstable...I live for the bleeding edge =)
[05:35] <FunnyLookinHat> DarkElf109, hahhaaha (well it's not linux, it's a full re-write of the windows OS)
[05:35] <cypherdust> whyami, the problem is apt-get is tryin to finish installing vmware
[05:35] <wubrgamer> in my places menu, that i don't know how to delete
[05:35] <FunnyLookinHat> DarkElf109, very nice  :)
[05:35] <cypherdust> whyami, i dont want it to do that
[05:35] <wubrgamer> HOW DO I DELETE THEM ?
[05:35] <DarkElf109> FunnyLookinHat: Well, open source reverse engineer of Windows done from shoddy developer docs, but yeah, still open source
[05:35] <cypherdust> whyami, but it wont stop config'n it
[05:35] <FunnyLookinHat> DarkElf109, heck yes  : )
[05:36] <whyami> cypherdust: I have no idea. Could you try apt-get remove vmware? :-|
[05:36] <DarkElf109> wubrgamer: Right-click the icon and select "Unmount Volume"
[05:36] <cypherdust> whyami, i tried it but ill try again
[05:36] <Stoned2daBones> hello
[05:36] <wubrgamer> hah
[05:36] <wubrgamer> thank you !
[05:36] <FunnyLookinHat> Stoned2daBones, welcome!
[05:36] <wubrgamer> stupid me, i'd had forgotten
[05:36] <DarkElf109> wubrgamer: =)
[05:36] <whyami> cypherdust: and you went to the man page and already looked there?
[05:36] <derrickh> how do you change the default media player?
[05:37] <cypherdust> whyami, crap forgot the man page
[05:37] <[Ex0r] > Guys.. is there a way to get ubuntu installed bare minimal ?
[05:37] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , Yes.  use ubuntu-server
[05:37] <[Ex0r] > meaning, with just the x system, gnome, and the bare essentials to be ubuntu ?
[05:37] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , it basically installs the kernal and basic drivers.  Everything else is on your own.
[05:37] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , oh, that sounds like the liveCD install to me.
[05:38] <Stoned2daBones> I'm a new linux usr and I would like to learn to host my websites in my pc usind a cable connection (DHCP)
[05:38] <DarkElf109> FunnyLookinHat: Isn't there an ubuntu-minimal package?
[05:38] <[Ex0r] > im looking for something very minimal, so I can install the rest of the stuff myself. (Apache, mysql, php, etc)
[05:38] <passbe> does anyone know how to switch a workplace via console ?
[05:38] <slowz3r> hey
[05:38] <FunnyLookinHat> DarkElf109, I didn't know if there was/wasn't.  And if there is I'm not sure what it iinstalls
[05:38] <DarkElf109> Stoned2daBones: Have you checked with your ISp's AUP to make sure that you're allowed to run servers?
[05:38] <phunkalicious> get the ubuntu server cd :/
[05:38] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , then you want ubuntu server
[05:38] <whyami> Stoned2daBones: you are going to want to check out no-ip.com to deal with DHCP. At least that's one possibility....
[05:38] <sproingie> judging from browsing the packages, ubuntu-server will install a kernel appropriate for servers
[05:39] <slowz3r> How do i access my other harddrive that has windows on it?????
[05:39] <sproingie> so it won't be as snappy for X apps
[05:39] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , I can walk you through getting a GUI interface if you need one
[05:39] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Read only, or read/write?
[05:39] <TalentedChimp> slowz3r windows xp?
[05:39] <Stoned2daBones> yeah I checked already
[05:39] <[Ex0r] > doesn't that only install ubuntu, without x and gnome ?
[05:39] <acebo> Walking through == "Here's the webpage link! Call me in the morning!" :P
[05:39] <[Ex0r] > seems like ubuntu would give you the option of what to install at the beginning
[05:39] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , yea, but it's very easy to get a basic X/Gnome after that..  It's just one or two lines in the console
[05:40] <Froglegsburn> hello
[05:40] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, i just need to be able to copy files over
[05:40] <TalentedChimp> slowz3r: ntfs or fat file system?
[05:40] <acebo> [Ex0r] : Kinda the draw to Ubuntu, I think, almost 0-config
[05:40] <Stoned2daBones> no-ip and dns2go
[05:40] <whyami> DarkElf109, Stoned2daBones: I had no idea some ISP didn't allow this. So what exactly does it mean if they don't allow servers? If they catch you they make you shut it down or what?
[05:40] <Froglegsburn> what is better ubuntu or suse?
[05:40] <slowz3r> TalentedChimp,  NTFS
[05:40] <slowz3r> TalentedChimp, XP pro
[05:40] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , besides, if you are looking to run a server you probably don't even want X installed (I don't have it on my server )
[05:40] <DarkElf109> whyami: Depending on what they put in the AUP, they can cancel your connection. None of them actually do that, though =)
[05:40] <Stoned2daBones> i dont think so
[05:40] <acebo> Froglegsburn: Ubuntu, and not just because you're in the channel.
[05:40] <DarkElf109> FunnyLookinHat: Ubuntu, of course =)
[05:40] <[Ex0r] > FunnyLookinHat- I'm running a private server for myself, but am also using the system as a desktop.
[05:40] <codecaine> sls
[05:40] <TalentedChimp> slow3er: very difficult, linux doesn't natively support ntfs
[05:40] <FunnyLookinHat> whyami, They usually don't catch/care if you have just a basic server...  but if they do notice or care, they'll just send you a nice letter and you just have to change the port you are hosting on
[05:40] <acebo> Froglegsburn: I've tried both of the most recent releases, Ubuntu wins, hands down
[05:41] <Froglegsburn> why?
[05:41] <[Ex0r] > but I am doing a complete re-install, and don't want to deal with stuff already being installed as I try to install other stuff
[05:41] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, ?
[05:41] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: mount -t ntfs /dev/<hda1> /mnt/whatever
[05:41] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , then I'd go for ubuntu-server and just install the X/Gnome in console.  It's easy, trust me.  A lot of people in here (myself included) would be willing to help
[05:41] <TalentedChimp> slowz3r: it would be simpler and safer to put a small fat partition in windows
[05:41] <[Ex0r] > FunnyLookinHat- Except I have no way of communicating with any of you during that time
[05:41] <Stoned2daBones> is there any other way rather than no-ip.com to deal with dhcp?
[05:41] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , oh no second computer?
[05:41] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , where do you live?
[05:41] <[Ex0r] > nope
[05:41] <acebo> Froglegsburn: Hrm.. package management is better, general automation is better. Docs and support I've found to be alot easier.. and seems like by sheer popularity, alot of problems have already been solved on 6.06 Ubuntu
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > FunnyLookinHat- usa
[05:42] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , yes, what state?  michigan
[05:42] <FunnyLookinHat> ?
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > Isn't x and gnome on the repositories ?
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > yeah
[05:42] <FunnyLookinHat> yup
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > in the repositories*
[05:42] <sproingie> ubuntu 6.06 is also damn snappy with the preemptible kernel
[05:42] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, hda1 no such file or directory
[05:42] <MrKeuner> hi, I am having trouble with the ati hardware I have in my thinkpad. It looks like I have a very sloow 3d. For example when I click on the trashbin the animation is slow. Where should I start checking? thanks
[05:42] <FunnyLookinHat> How close are you to chicago?  : )
[05:42] <dash> can you update java through apt-get?
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > so than once server gets installed, you should just be able to apt-get install gnome
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > ?
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > FunnyLookinHat- about 4 hours
[05:42] <whyami> Stoned2daBones: what's your issue with no-ip.com?
[05:42] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Well, I take that back. That's JUST for copying files FROM Windows TO Ubuntu. And I meant for you to put whatever partition the Windows install was on in there
[05:43] <polpak> dash: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin && sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:43] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, thats all i need to do is copy em over from windows to ubuntu
[05:43] <Stoned2daBones> Y wanna hist my websites on my pc using a cablemodem
[05:43] <MrKeuner> help
[05:43] <Stoned2daBones> host*
[05:43] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Ok. Step 1 is to figure out where the Windows partition is
[05:43] <MrKeuner> !help
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[05:43] <Froglegsburn> is all the software i have under suse available on ubuntu or easy to obtain?
[05:43] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , well if it comes down to it, I'm looking for a reason to drive to michigan in the next week or so to visit some people, I could swing by and walk you through it...   I know it's a long shot but still an offer
[05:43] <Froglegsburn> like cannon smash lol
[05:44] <whyami> Stoned2daBones: and you can do that using no-ip.com to forward from its address to your DHCP address.
[05:44] <DarkElf109> Froglegsburn: Probably. Lots of repositories available, official and non
[05:44] <Stoned2daBones> yeap
[05:44] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Do you know your hard drive layout?
[05:44] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, and what do u mean by that
[05:44] <[Ex0r] > FunnyLookinHat lol whoops, I didn't mean to PM you asking for permission to PM you, that was meant for in the channel :)
[05:44] <Froglegsburn> does mozilla work with ubuntu?
[05:44] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, on the drive with windows?
[05:44] <sproingie> Froglegsburn: of course
[05:45] <FunnyLookinHat> [Ex0r] , no worries, use PM if it helps you
[05:45] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Well, in general. Which hard drive, which partition.
[05:45] <SurfnKid> Finally i got the i8k utiliy running
[05:45] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, ya i know where it is..its on its own seperate drive
[05:45] <SurfnKid> now Im completely satisfied with linux
[05:45] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: For example, hda1 is first hard drive, first partition. hda2 is 1st drive, 2nd partition. hdb1 is 2nd drive, first partition
[05:46] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Well, actually, another question: Is it IDE, SATA, or USB?
[05:46] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, SATA
[05:46] <DarkElf109> Ah. There's the key =)
[05:46] <DarkElf109> Which drive/partition is windows installed on?
[05:47] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, it has its own drive but i dont know what it would be like if its hda1 or whatever
[05:47] <s|k> is there an easy way to test ram?
[05:48] <s|k> to see if there are any issues with my ram?
[05:48] <SurfnKid> s|k, memtest on boot
[05:48] <s|k> I'm sorry?
[05:48] <rredd4> I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.15-26-386, when I open menu.lst, I see 2.6.15-23 and 2.6.15-26.  When I reboot, I only see 2.6.15-26.  What do I need to do to use 2.6.15-26?  grub not updated?
[05:48] <SurfnKid> rredd4, sudo update-grub
[05:48] <s|k> SurfnKid: how do I do that?
[05:48] <SurfnKid> open up a Virtual Terminal
[05:48] <rredd4> SurfKid ok ty
[05:49] <SurfnKid> np
[05:49] <s|k> ok
[05:49] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, ??
[05:49] <s|k> SurfnKid: how do I do a memtest?
[05:50] <gmoore> if i do a server installation of Ubuntu, and i have a windows machine running XWin32, will i be able to run graphical apps on my Ubuntu system and have them display on the windows system (such as ddd)? or do i need some sort of window manager running in Ubuntu, like gnome?
[05:50] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Sorry bout that
[05:50] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, np
[05:50] <SurfnKid> if youre done with updating grub, itll also place a memtest path to test your ram
[05:50] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Go to System>Administration>Disks, then find the hard disk and partition with the NTFS format
[05:50] <SurfnKid> close everything, reboot, and choose memtestx86
[05:50] <polpak> gmoore: you should be able to push the output to your windows box
[05:50] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Err, System > Administration > Gnome partition Editor, sorry
[05:51] <AlexThreeTwoThre> Hi guys
[05:51] <gmoore> okay, thanks. also, what is the difference between the ubuntu cd (700mb) and dvd (3.2gb)? what extra is included?
[05:51] <DarkElf109> AlexThreeTwoThre: Heya
[05:51] <AlexThreeTwoThre> I'm in ubuntu
[05:51] <AlexThreeTwoThre> and this rectangle thing came up
[05:51] <DarkElf109> gmoore: Whole lot of packages
[05:51] <DosBubba> AlexThreeTwoThre, What's it look like?
[05:52] <AlexThreeTwoThre> DosBubba: well, it's uh, rectangular, and it has one of those triangle things like /_\ with a ! in the middle
[05:52] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, there is no gnome partition editor
[05:52] <polpak> gmoore: there's "less" to download in terms of packages. But really since many things need updates it doesn't matter much
[05:52] <DosBubba> AlexThreeTwoThre, Oh, I'm not sure what that is. Maybe someone else knows.
[05:52] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Alright. Go into synaptic and install 'gparted'. It's an awesome partition editor =)
[05:52] <AlexThreeTwoThre> ok
[05:52] <AlexThreeTwoThre> does anybody else know what this box thing is?
[05:52] <meishiwan> hi,everybody
[05:53] <DarkElf109> AlexThreeTwoThre: Is there any writing in it?
[05:53] <lucas-> what were you doing when you got it?
[05:53] <AlexThreeTwoThre> no, it's just a /_\ ! box thing
[05:53] <AlexThreeTwoThre> it takes up most the screen
[05:53] <AlexThreeTwoThre> it's rather annoying
[05:53] <DarkElf109> AlexThreeTwoThre: Sounds like a bugged error box
[05:53] <AlexThreeTwoThre> lucas-: I was um, well I might as well say my friend pasted me a link to goatse, and then firefox opened then this happened
[05:53] <meishiwan> is there everybody can tell me how to install the Debian Menu?
[05:53] <DarkElf109> Woohoo! Javascript!
[05:53] <rredd4> SurfKid I meant to say that I only see 2.6.15-23 when I reboot.  I did sudo update-grub, it showed 23 and 26.  I rebooted and I stll only see 23
[05:54] <nsasch> AlexThreeTwoThre: was it from Firefox?
[05:54] <AlexThreeTwoThre> no
[05:54] <AlexThreeTwoThre> it's separate
[05:54] <AlexThreeTwoThre> i cloed firefox now
[05:54] <AlexThreeTwoThre> it won't go away
[05:54] <nsasch> what program is it from?
[05:54] <DarkElf109> Hrm
[05:54] <AlexThreeTwoThre> it doesn't show
[05:54] <AlexThreeTwoThre> it's just a big blank box with /!\ in it
[05:54] <polpak> AlexThreeTwoThre: did you try logging out?
[05:54] <nsasch> did Firefox work? did you see goatse in all its "glory?"
[05:54] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, how long should it take for gnome partition editor to scann all devices when i open it up
[05:54] <AlexThreeTwoThre> polpak: yes, I've restarted three times
[05:54] <AlexThreeTwoThre> nsasch: indeed it did
[05:54] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Just a couple seconds
[05:55] <s|k> ok how do I test my ram?
[05:55] <s|k> anyone?
[05:55] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, well its kinda take a while
[05:55] <DarkElf109> s|k: Run memtest
[05:55] <s|k> I think I'm having ram issues
[05:55] <AlexThreeTwoThre> s|k: memtest86
[05:55] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Just let it do its thing. Should finish up after a bit
[05:55] <s|k> just type 'memtest' ? that didn't work for me
[05:55] <nsasch> AlexThreeTwoThre: you said " a big blank box with /!\ in it", did the triangle have a bottom?
[05:55] <AlexThreeTwoThre> nsasch: yea, but I don't know how to make bottoms
[05:55] <nsasch> oh okay, just making sure.
[05:55] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, well ill get back to u if and when it finishes and if it doesnt
[05:56] <LoneShadow> which is the most light weight ubuntu breezy distro ?
[05:56] <AlexThreeTwoThre> so
[05:56] <nsasch> AlexThreeTwoThre: when you restart, do you have to visit goatse again or does it just pop up?
[05:56] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: If it doesn't, close it and open it again
[05:56] <AlexThreeTwoThre> nsasch: it just pops up
[05:56] <s|k> memtest isn't workinf for me
[05:56] <AlexThreeTwoThre> nsasch: it's rather annoying
[05:56] <[Ex0r] > what package do you guys recommend for a mail server ?
[05:56] <nsasch> which version of goatse did you go to?
[05:56] <AlexThreeTwoThre> nsasch: um, I think it was saix.be
[05:56] <AlexThreeTwoThre> oh also
[05:56] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, ok ill try now
[05:57] <DarkElf109> meishiwan: sudo apt-get install menu
[05:57] <DosBubba> AlexThreeTwoThre, I guess try visiting another goatse site might cancel it out.
[05:57] <AlexThreeTwoThre> I was in X-Chat, and he kept saying this "DCC SEND HAXHAXHAXHAXALEXISACOCKSUCKER 0 0 0" and it kept disconnecting me
[05:57] <rredd4> I did sudo update-grub, it showed kernel 2.6.15-23 and 26.  I rebooted and I stll only see 23.  how do I fix this so I can use 26?  23 and 26 are in menu.lst.
[05:57] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, ya i dont think its gunna work at all
[05:57] <DosBubba> AlexThreeTwoThre, Unless it's lilo's global notices in XChat.
[05:57] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, :/
[05:57] <lucas-> hahahaha
[05:57] <AlexThreeTwoThre> DosBubba: I think that might be it
[05:57] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Hrm. Alright. Was Windows on the first and/or only partition on the drive?
[05:58] <brownegg> anyone know if you can suppress join/part in xchat?
[05:58] <AlexThreeTwoThre> DosBubba: does it have anything to do with lilo being a huge noob?
[05:58] <tristil> I've seen complaints about this on the web, but no resolution: you create a wheels group, you add the wheel group to /etc/sudoers, you add a user to wheel, you su to that user, you sudo, you fill in the password, then nothing.
[05:58] <slowz3r> DarkElf109, ya it is
[05:58] <AlexThreeTwoThre> ahhhh
[05:58] <nsasch> AlexThreeTwoThre: I read something about spyware in Ubuntu, maybe that's it?
[05:58] <s|k> I think I'm just going to start crying
[05:58] <AlexThreeTwoThre> nsasch: whaT?
[05:59] <lucas-> why is that s|k
[05:59] <AlexThreeTwoThre> GUYS
[05:59] <AlexThreeTwoThre> WHAT IS THIS BOX THING
[05:59] <s|k> I can't figure out what is wrong
[05:59] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: Ok. Brute force approach. Make or find an empty folder, and try 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sd<x>1 /folder/folder' until it works, starting by replacing <x> with a, and working your way through the alphabet
[05:59] <nsasch> AlexThreeTwoThre: yea. there's a problem in Firefox where spyware can get installed in Ubuntu.
[05:59] <s|k> how do I run memtest?
[05:59] <s|k> I'm looking at grub
[05:59] <[Ex0r] > so nobody here has a recommendation for a mail server (imap, pop3, smtp, webmail), for ubuntu ?
[05:59] <s|k> how do I run memtest?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> s|k,  its in the boot menu, just select it. and ut should load.
[05:59] <AlexThreeTwoThre> AND WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING DCC HAX_ALEX_SUCKS_DICK_HAX 0 0 0
[05:59] <meishiwan> is there anybody can tell me how to install the Debian Menu?:-[i checked a thread about Debian Menu on forum ,but now i cant find the thread.
[05:59] <rredd4> slk in grub  when you reboot
[05:59] <s|k> rredd4: I am looking at grub right now
[06:00] <tristil> meishiwan, did you try alacarte?
[06:00] <DarkElf109> [Ex0r] : Use courier-imap and postfix. Nice and awesome
[06:00] <s|k> oh
[06:00] <s|k> found it
[06:00] <s|k> thanks
[06:00] <nsasch> AlexThreeTwoThre: it gets you banned usually, please refrain from saying that
[06:00] <rredd4> slk look at menu.lst to see if its there
[06:00] <AlexThreeTwoThre> nsasch: oh, why does it get you banned?
[06:00] <polpak> AlexThreeTwoThre: if it starts when you log in it's either in .xsession or something similiar
[06:00] <[Ex0r] > DarkElf109- does it have support for pop3 and smtp as well ?
[06:00] <s|k> rredd4: I see it, how will I know if I have errors?
[06:00] <DosBubba> AlexThreeTwoThre, Does it also happen when someone says !startkeylogger ?
[06:01] <tristil> When I sudo, I enter the password, then nothing.
[06:01] <DarkElf109> [Ex0r] : courier-pop for pop3, and postfix is for smtp
[06:01] <[Ex0r] > ah, I see
[06:01] <colk> sudo is supposed to be ran with a command
[06:01] <rredd4> slk someone else will have to answer that ?
[06:01] <DarkElf109> [Ex0r] : The couriers are easy to install. Postfix is a bit harder for anything more than local mail
[06:01] <polpak> tristil: if you want to become root use sudo -i otherwise you need to give it a command to run as root
[06:01] <[Ex0r] > I heard some things about courier being buggy and etc
[06:01] <[Ex0r] > and instead of postfix, can't I use sendmail ?
[06:01] <tristil> colk, I know. I mean that if I sudo vi blah, I get a password prompt, then nothing happens.
[06:01] <nsasch> AlexThreeTwoThre: you might want to consider switching to Gentoo if optimal performance is necessary.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> life  is buggy.
[06:02] <polpak> tristil: did you hit enter after you typed the password?
[06:02] <rredd4> I did sudo update-grub, it showed kernel 2.6.15-23 and 26.  I rebooted and I stll only see 23.  how do I fix this so I can use 26?  23 and 26 are in menu.lst.
[06:02] <DarkElf109> [Ex0r] : I've been using courier for a long while. I love it. And postfix is the sendmail replacement =P
[06:02] <tristil> polpak, I've seen complaints about this on the web, but no resolution: you create a wheels group, you add the wheel group to /etc/sudoers, you add a user to wheel, you su to that user, you sudo, you fill in the password, then nothing
[06:02] <[Ex0r] > guess i'm going to have to install one at a time, and read up on the docs for configuring them, esp. postfix
[06:02] <[Ex0r] > because I also heard it's difficult to get it working correctly
[06:02] <prozac> im looking for a bt client that lets me set a max upload limit
[06:02] <tristil> It's a new virtual server on vpslink.com
[06:02] <polpak> tristil: can you pastebin your sudoers file? You don't need to add a wheel group there is already an admin group for this by default
[06:03] <tristil> meishiwan, cool?
[06:03] <prozac> in Kbps...not by # of connections
[06:03] <[Ex0r] > prozac- the default bt client does.
[06:03] <prozac> really, i couldnt find that...
[06:03] <[Ex0r] > prozac- click the second tab, check the Cap Upload, and select the KB/sec box
[06:03] <tristil> polpak, is admin the adm group?
[06:04] <DarkElf109> [Ex0r] : Try this: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ And just ignore the stuff about mysql and virtual users
[06:04] <polpak> tristil: yes, it's the admin group
[06:04] <Madpilot> tristil, no, admin is admin - adm is something else
[06:05] <[Ex0r] > DarkElf109- Hold that url til after I re-install ubuntu please :)
[06:05] <tristil> polpak, Their default install is pretty bare. adduser: The group `admin' does not exist.
[06:05] <prozac> Ex0r, i started the bt on windows and saved to a portable HDD...is there a way to get the bt client to realize that the bt needs to be resumed, and not re-started
[06:05] <DarkElf109> [Ex0r] : Then you'll like google.com/notebook =P
[06:05] <polpak> tristil: in ubuntu?
[06:06] <prozac> its the same .torrent file...just a different OS
[06:06] <[Ex0r] > prozac- nope, you would have to copy all the partially downloaded files to the same directory in linux
[06:06] <GStubbs43> How do I open BitTorrent? when I click i in the Applications menu, it says "Open Location for BitTorrent meta file" any ideas?
[06:07] <tristil> polpak, vpslink.com's virtual server version of Ubuntu.
[06:07] <DarkElf109> GStubbs43: It's asking for a .torrent file
[06:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Ok guys, here's a fun one... for some reason liveCD isn't installing GRUB right on my desktop that has a windows install on it too.  Anyone else have issues with GRUB not working w/ SATA and IDE drives both there?
[06:07] <prozac> the partially downloaded files are on a portable HDD recognized by both wondows and Ubuntu
[06:07] <FunnyLookinHat> : )
[06:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Odd huh?
[06:07] <GStubbs43> oh, you can't open it up and search?
[06:07] <prozac> i can specify the file where they already exist
[06:07] <Madpilot> GStubbs43, find a .torrent file on the web somewhere, and click on it
[06:07] <GStubbs43> Like on uTorrent and other programs?
[06:08] <GStubbs43> okay...
[06:08] <tristil> polpak, http://paste.plone.org/5362
[06:08] <Vikash> how to change default boot operating system
[06:08] <DarkElf109> slowz3r: You still there?
[06:08] <Vikash> do u know
[06:08] <meishiwan> tristil,im here. i dont know how to do it
[06:08] <DarkElf109> Oh, guess not, never mind...
[06:09] <Vikash> can u tell me
[06:09] <tristil> meishiwan, are you running Dapper?
[06:09] <meishiwan> yes
[06:09] <Vikash> how to change boot settings
[06:09] <Vikash> ya
[06:09] <DarkElf109> Vikash: Open up /boot/grub/menu.list, and change "default"
[06:09] <deFrysk> Vikash, default=0 is the first
[06:09] <tristil> meishiwan, Does alacarte in Applications suit your purposes?
[06:09] <deFrysk> default=2 is the second etc
[06:10] <deFrysk> default=1 that is sorry
[06:10] <Vikash> default=1 is not there
[06:10] <Vikash> ok
[06:10] <gmoore> 'install to disk' vs 'lamp install' when installing Dapper with the server cd: do i get the same thing either way, just apache/mysql/php set up and ready to go in the second one?
[06:10] <DarkElf109> Well, default=1 is the safe option for the first OS
[06:10] <tristil> meishiwan, Applications->Accessories
[06:10] <meishiwan> i dont know how to install the Debian Menut via apt-get,let me try
[06:10] <DarkElf109> It's done by row
[06:10] <meishiwan> it
[06:10] <rredd4> DarkElf109 can you help please?  I did sudo update-grub, it showed kernel 2.6.15-23 and 26.  I rebooted and I stll only see 23.  how do I fix this so I can use 26?  23 and 26 are in menu.lst.
[06:10] <DarkElf109> meishiwan: apt-get install menu
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> grub starts counting at 0 i think.. so default=0 will be the first entry
[06:10] <deFrysk> yes
[06:11] <DarkElf109> rredd4: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` if I remember right
[06:11] <Vikash> there is no graphical menu to select that
[06:11] <deFrysk> default=1 is the second
[06:11] <meishiwan> i dont know the commend to install the debian menu via apt-get
[06:11] <DarkElf109> meishiwan: apt-get install menu
[06:11] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to use libpam-cracklib to check my password for difficult-to-crack-ness.  how can i do that?
[06:11] <rredd4> DarkElf109  uname -r returns 2.6.15-23
[06:12] <DarkElf109> rredd4: Then replace it with 2.6.15-26 =)
[06:12] <DarkElf109> Actually, either one would work
[06:12] <GStubbs43> Now Synaptic Package Manager won't open at all...
[06:12] <rredd4> ok
[06:12] <DarkElf109> It just has the installer scan the /boot directory for kernels, and updates menu.lst accordingly
[06:12] <meishiwan> let me try to install it.
[06:12] <polpak> tristil: how did you add yourself to the group file?
[06:12] <Ninja> can anyone help me install melisa media center please?????
[06:12] <polpak> tristil: I think it's shadowed
[06:13] <polpak> tristil: so you need to use vigr
[06:13] <tristil> polpak adduser method wheel
[06:13] <LoneShadow> which boot option do you guys choose ? default, generic .. ?
[06:13] <everton> oi
[06:13] <DarkElf109> LoneShadow: Eh? Where?
[06:13] <everton> aloha!
[06:14] <DarkElf109> Hi!
[06:14] <LoneShadow> everytime there is a kernel update, it puts like 3-4 new boot options on grub :P
[06:14] <rredd4> DarkElf109  that command says that its not installed.  When I open Synaptic, it shows that it is.?
[06:14] <GStubbs43> and when I use sudo in Terminal, this shows up: sudo: must be setuid root
[06:14] <LoneShadow> I choose the new kernel - default one, not sure what the generic one is meant for
[06:15] <DarkElf109> rredd4: Might wanna do apt-get reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-26 just to be sure
[06:15] <rredd4> ok
[06:15] <Ninja> can anyone help me install elisa media center?
[06:15] <s|k> wow this memtest is going to take 5 hours
[06:15] <s|k> :/
[06:15] <DarkElf109> LoneShadow: You can remove the old kernel packages once you're sure the new one works
[06:15] <polpak> s|k: punishment for having too much ram =p
[06:15] <DarkElf109> LoneShadow: I generally keep one old one around for safety
[06:15] <s|k> heh 3 gigs
[06:15] <deFrysk> s|k, better to lt it run for a few days
[06:15] <s|k> :(
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> s|k,  normally you let it run for a day or 2 :P to be sure
[06:15] <DarkElf109> s|k: Server or gaming machine? =P
[06:15] <meishiwan> DarkElf109,i have installed it ,but i cant find it in Applications->Accessories.O:-)
[06:16] <s|k> gaming
[06:16] <LoneShadow> yea I am doing that at the moment, but wondering whats the diff between default and generic
[06:16] <s|k> let it run for a few days? heh
[06:16] <s|k> I don't have a few days lol
[06:16] <s|k> I have classwork to do
[06:16] <deFrysk> s|k, its like giving up smoking
[06:16] <DarkElf109> meishiwan: Should just be Applications-> Debian
[06:16] <deFrysk> hang on in there
[06:17] <s|k> well it seems like 5% in 15 min is about 5 hours
[06:17] <DarkElf109> s|k: Public libraries are your friend! And your friends are your friends! Leech off of all of them!
[06:17] <rredd4> DarkElf109  Couldn't find package reinstall   I guess I will do it via Synaptic... sounds ok?
[06:17] <s|k> well my data is on this machine
[06:17] <s|k> I don't know how to make it run for a few days anyways
[06:17] <s|k> I just run it
[06:17] <DarkElf109> LoneShadow: Not sure...never seen it set up like that. I just have Kernel, then Kernel (safe), then Kernel 2, then Kernel 2 (safe)
[06:17] <meishiwan> i cant find it .need i reboot GDM?
[06:17] <DarkElf109> rredd4: Yeah
[06:18] <rredd4> ok
[06:18] <rredd4> tyy
[06:18] <DarkElf109> rredd4: I'm a console geek =P
[06:18] <[Ex0r] > damn, it's going to take 12 hours to archive up this directory :\
[06:18] <tristil> Hmm, is the % necessary to signify a group in /etc/sudoers, as in %wheel   All=(ALL) ALL?
[06:18] <DarkElf109> meishiwan: killall gnome-panel works too, I think
[06:18] <DarkElf109> meishiwan: You might also wanna check Alacarte to make sure the menu isn;t just disabled
[06:18] <rredd4> DarkElf109 lol!
[06:18] <s|k> you know I can't seem to write to dvd on this system without it failing
[06:18] <s|k> is that usual?
[06:19] <Boelcke> Any suggestions for how to convert an mpg video to DVD format?  I'm struggling to burn my first dvd in ubuntu...
[06:19] <s|k> and then the disc is stuck in the drive and I have to use a paper clip to get it out
[06:19] <DarkElf109> s|k: That sounds liek a drive problem more than anything
[06:19] <meishiwan> now i cant open the Alacarte
[06:19] <DarkElf109> meishiwan: Ok. Then restart gnome, yeah. Might even wanna just restart the machine
[06:19] <DrBair> im picking out a new wifi card... atheros, prism, or intel. Any opinions?
[06:19] <s|k> okay well maybe the whole system is shot
[06:19] <DarkElf109> DrBair: Prism. Great for wardriving =P
[06:19] <Red_Herring> DUDE type in /disco for a LIGHT SHOW!!!
[06:20] <DarkElf109> DON'T
[06:20] <meishiwan> ill restart the machine
[06:20] <DarkElf109> It's short for disconnect
[06:20] <DrBair> DarkElf109: very true...
[06:21] <DarkElf109> DrBair: And that's the true test of a WiFi card's value, honestly. Especially considering the relatively small number of cards that can actually get packet injection right
[06:21] <sledmouth> xubuntu is cool!
[06:21] <Red_Herring> haha no dont actually do it
[06:21] <stormchas3r> I just installed 6.06 and it never asked for me to create a root pw, any  help here?
[06:21] <Red_Herring> sledmouth: any better than kubuntu?
[06:21] <sledmouth> i'm not a kde fan
[06:21] <DarkElf109> stormchas3r: It's not supposed to. Enjoy using 'sudo'
[06:21] <sledmouth> so i'm not the one to ask
[06:21] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: Or, to get a root shell, 'sudo -s'
[06:22] <DarkElf109> Bleh, that was to stormchas3r
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> stormchas3r,  faq #1 there man. :P
[06:22] <stormchas3r> how do I use sudo in a shell?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> !root
[06:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:22] <stormchas3r> srry
[06:22] <DarkElf109> stormchas3r: Type 'sudo', followed by the command you want to run as root
[06:22] <stormchas3r> new to ubuntu but love it so far
[06:22] <neon_> how can i set the password for connect to my mobile in bluetooth?
[06:22] <stormchas3r> ty guys
[06:23] <sledmouth> i use joe's wm on my thin client audio players :)
[06:23] <sledmouth> they should make jubuntu ;)
[06:23] <DarkElf109> Anyone in here have a CompTIA Linux+ certification? I'm thinking of getting it (work pays if I pass), and wondering how hard it is
[06:23] <fantasynw> Hello.  I'm a relative n00b to Linux in general (I know a little, but not too much)... I just installed Ubuntu 6.06, and I can't seem to get my wireless working.  Installed on a Gateway 7210GX laptop... I did some research and I know I have to mess with ndiswrapper, but I'm not really sure what to do.  Can anyone point me at some docs that could guide me?
[06:23] <ljlolel> so
[06:23] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: Nah. Might be construed to be racist =P
[06:23] <notamisfit> or flubuntu
[06:23] <sledmouth> LOL
[06:23] <ljlolel> i love ubuntu
[06:24] <DarkElf109> notamisfit: They're working on fluxbuntu, actually
[06:24] <sledmouth> obuntu
[06:24] <Madpilot> notamisfit, "Bird Flubuntu" ;)
[06:24] <DarkElf109> !ndiswrapper
[06:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[06:24] <notamisfit> holy shit. never thought i'd see that one coming
[06:24] <TIHan-Linux> how do i use the network proxy in ubuntu
[06:24] <spades> nubuntu uses fluxbox iirc
[06:24] <notamisfit> is ebuntu still chinese whispers?
[06:24] <fantasynw> Perfect, thank you!
[06:25] <Boelcke> Any suggestions for how to convert an mpg video to DVD format?
[06:26] <ljlolel> when will some django bugs be fixed
[06:26] <DarkElf109> ljlolel: eventually
[06:26] <DrBair> Boelcke: theres quite a few dvd authoring tools in the repos. I used one before qdvdauthor or something to that effect...
[06:27] <DarkElf109> Boelcke: Might wanna try k3b. Has built-in video transcoding
[06:28] <n1xt3r> ljolel: you wouldn't be talking about where some fonts get seem to get squished together?
[06:28] <sledmouth> i'm on a fujitsu stylistic 3500 right now (with xubuntu) cuz the damn backlight went out on my ibook :(
[06:28] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: I'm sorry about the ibook, and now I know that fujitsu makes computers =P
[06:29] <sledmouth> fujitsu handhelds are awesome
[06:29] <sledmouth> i have like 5 of them
[06:29] <DarkElf109> Handhelds? As in, PDAs?
[06:29] <sledmouth> they make great thin media clients
[06:29] <sledmouth> no, tablet pc's
[06:29] <DarkElf109> Hrm. Neato
[06:29] <TIHan-Linux> how do i use the network proxy in ubuntu
[06:29] <Warbo> Can anybody help me get Beagle to show some meaningful results? For example if I search for "avi" the only thing that comes up is /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[06:30] <DBO> Warbo, have you excersized the dog?
[06:30] <Warbo> DBO: Several times
[06:30] <holycow> ljlolel, why are you asking about django here? isn't that a web app platform?
[06:30] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: Neato. I've just got a Palm T|X...I love it as a PDA, but not the best for media
[06:30] <ljlolel> sorry wrong window :)
[06:31] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: What's the price on one of those?
[06:31] <holycow> ljlolel, was just curious :)
[06:31] <damion> hey is there a way to stop my ubuntu from freezing when i leave it on all night downloading a torrent
[06:31] <sledmouth> u can ebay fujitsu stylistic 3500's for ~$225
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> damion,  you are saying it dont freeze when you leave it on and DONT download torrents?
[06:31] <DarkElf109> damion: Turn of the thing that makes it freeze ;)
[06:31] <DarkElf109> off*
[06:31] <sledmouth> they r like laptops with no keyboard
[06:31] <DarkElf109> Bah. Typing errors always ruin my witty retorts...
[06:32] <sledmouth> 500MHz
[06:32] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: Yeah, I just looked em up...they're neat
[06:32] <holycow> damion, are you sure ubuntu freezes or just the torrent client?  does your entire screen lockoup? if so can you switch to cli via ctrl/alt/f1...f2 ...etc?
[06:32] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: And I've done more than my fair share of working with LTSP...setting it up for a whole school district =)
[06:32] <sledmouth> nice
[06:32] <holycow> DarkElf109, a whole district?
[06:32] <sledmouth> i'm actually interested in going LTSP
[06:32] <holycow> wicked
[06:33] <sledmouth> how is the sound DarkElf109?
[06:33] <holycow> DarkElf109, ever set it up to work over the net?
[06:33] <sledmouth> did u use esd?
[06:33] <damion> no when i live on bittornado client or ktorrent at night it sometimes freezes in the middle of the night
[06:33] <DarkElf109> It's kinda odd. The Edubuntu LTSP works on almost every system, but doesn't have support for local media (important). The standard LTSP package from the LTSP project itself has less support, but local media
[06:33] <damion> the whole computer is frozen
[06:34] <damion> the mouse dont move or nothing
[06:34] <holycow> damion, ah ... you cant even ctrl/alt/f2 to another cli?
[06:34] <Warbo> damion: X crashes are often caused by driver problems. Are you using a non-free driver?
[06:34] <DarkElf109> Edubuntu plans to have local devices and whatnot working for Edgy, but, can't wait that long, so we're just trying our luckm with vanilla LTSP
[06:34] <rredd4> DarkElf109  I did synaptic install and apt-get install.  I still only see 2.6.15-23.  Any other ideas?
[06:34] <sledmouth> DarkElf109: so the clients have sound and Xservers runngin, right/
[06:35] <DarkElf109> rredd4: REinstall =)
[06:35] <sledmouth> the prob i have with my current system is that i have xmms running natively on the handhelds
[06:36] <hangfire> which compiler is vanilla LISP? is that an opensource one like cmucl?
[06:36] <sledmouth> and have to use cli mplayer for real streams
[06:36] <filemover> anyone want a really good guide on bash scripting
[06:36] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: Well, we've got X working on the machines that matter, but we're still trying to get sound down. I know it works, because it was fine with edubuntu, but getting it going with LSP vanilla is posing some issues
[06:36] <sledmouth> however, the other stylistics i have are only like 120mhz machines
[06:36] <DarkElf109> LTSP*
[06:36] <sledmouth> and can't do nicer players like gxine etc
[06:36] <sledmouth> (to give me all streams in one gui)
[06:37] <hangfire> filemover-where is the guide to bash scripting?
[06:37] <sledmouth> i tried xmms with mplayer plugin - couldn't handle that either
[06:37] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: Well, you should try out actual LTSP, then. It's neat stuff
[06:37] <sledmouth> i want to
[06:37] <sledmouth> i'm just hoping sound is fine
[06:37] <sledmouth> i have lots of flac
[06:37] <DarkElf109> It still seems kinda odd to me, though. Booting a computer over a network seems like black magic =P
[06:37] <sledmouth> lol
[06:37] <Hoxzer> how can I take a screenshot from certain window?
[06:38] <[Ex0r] > wow
[06:38] <[Ex0r] > 67gigs worth of back-ups :\
[06:38] <damion> ok how do i stop the bittorrent program from locking up my computer
[06:38] <rredd4> DarkElf109  I tried this command apt-get install reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-26-386  and I get "Couldn't find package reinstall"
[06:38] <DarkElf109> damion: You could try renicing it
[06:38] <damion> what?
[06:38] <holycow> Hoxzer, /alt/printscreen takes shost of focused windows
[06:38] <DarkElf109> rredd4: Are you sure your package lists are updated?
[06:38] <DarkElf109> !renice
[06:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about renice - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:39] <damion> i am newb to linux man i am just winging it
[06:39] <holycow> Hoxzer, gimp can screen cap whatever window you want and lets you choose it with a mouse
[06:39] <sledmouth> man nice
[06:39] <DarkElf109> damion: http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xcu/renice.html
[06:39] <holycow> damion, most fun way to get started :) welcome
[06:39] <holycow> damion, well what you do is ditch that piece of garbage and use gtktorrent client :)
[06:40] <holycow> it comes built in to gnome?
[06:40] <rredd4> DarkElf109  update-grub shows both kernels..
[06:40] <DarkElf109> I'm surprised I even use Linux today...Slackware ate the partition boundary between it and my windows partition the first time I installed it, and the Warty install CD's partitioner deleted my partition table =P
[06:40] <DarkElf109> rredd4: You could manually add it to menu.lst if you want
[06:40] <[Ex0r] > alright, now to copy the back-up to another computer and re-install
[06:40] <damion> gtktorrent
[06:40] <rredd4> DarkElf109  its there now...
[06:41] <sledmouth> slackware is what i run on my clients DarkElf109
[06:41] <damion> how do i install
[06:41] <damion> i have been using ktorrent
[06:41] <sledmouth> on the stylistic 1200s
[06:41] <holycow> damion, are you using kubuntu?
[06:41] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: Nice. I won't touch it ever again after that, though =P
[06:41] <damion> no ubuntu 6.06
[06:41] <DarkElf109> rredd4: Well, then, it worked =)
[06:41] <rredd4> DarkElf109  I will paste bin my menu.lst   brb
[06:41] <sledmouth> i use a very stripped down slack on cf cards
[06:41] <DarkElf109> k
[06:41] <holycow> damion, its actually called gnome-btdownload, its installed already for you
[06:41] <holycow> damion, check apps/internet ... its the bittorent client
[06:41] <sledmouth> 156mb flash
[06:41] <sledmouth> 256...
[06:42] <interfear> any must have apps for ubuntu?
[06:42] <stormchas3r> If I have a mdf file, how can i mout it in ubuntu?
[06:42] <holycow> damion, you said you were using bittornado right?
[06:42] <rredd4> DarkElf109  It still does not show when I reboot, only shows 23 not 26
[06:42] <damion> yea
[06:42] <DarkElf109> rredd4: So, wait, lemme get this straight: It's in menu.lst, but doesn't show up?
[06:42] <rredd4> yes
[06:42] <holycow> damion, well then just use the torrent client already installed, nothing to worry about
[06:42] <damion> that freezes too if my download spikes too high then it locks
[06:42] <DarkElf109> rredd4: Woah...now THAT'S odd...
[06:42] <damion> ok then
[06:42] <DarkElf109> rredd4: Are the files in /boot?
[06:42] <faraday> holycow: can you change the port of gnome-btdownload??
[06:42] <holycow> damion, that locks up your system too?
[06:42] <Hoxzer> holycow: :P for somereason it captures only botom panel no matter what I select
[06:43] <sledmouth> is ur /boot on its own part.? redd4?
[06:43] <rredd4> DarkElf109  kernel files?
[06:43] <holycow> Hoxzer, odd, use gnome
[06:43] <DarkElf109> Yeah
[06:43] <rredd4> DarkElf109  checking
[06:43] <damion> well no
[06:43] <damion> i stopped using it
[06:43] <Hoxzer> holycow: actually I do use gnome
[06:43] <SurfnKid> whats the difference between modprobe and insmod?
[06:43] <holycow> faraday, best i can suggest is man gnome-btdownload, or read whatever manuals are available for that project
[06:43] <damion> hey where is it located anyway
[06:44] <Hoxzer> holycow: is it alright to select window with alt+tab
[06:44] <DarkElf109> stormchas3r: I don't know of any files in the repositories that can mount CD images, let alone MDF
[06:44] <holycow> Hoxzer, sure why not
[06:44] <damion> question
[06:44] <Hoxzer> :E eh panel ... panel ....
[06:44] <DarkElf109> SurfnKid: modprobe has a ton more features than insmod
[06:44] <holycow> damion, applications/internet its just called bittorent
[06:44] <stormchas3r> ty DarkElf109
[06:44] <SlyFly> Can anyone please help me with ALSA?  I have a question about ALSA.  I already checked the forums and WIKI.  PLease?
[06:44] <rredd4> DarkElf109  initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386   and  config-2.6.15-26-386  and  vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386  are in /boot
[06:45] <SurfnKid> DarkElf109, i thought so, more like an improved command
[06:45] <holycow> SlyFly, just ask
[06:45] <damion> where are the programs install on ubuntu
[06:45] <Warbo> damion: /usr
[06:45] <SlyFly> I used to have ALSA available to select as an AUDIo device, but it has disappeared...and I don't know where it went
[06:45] <Warbo> Damn network problems :( I think MLDonkey was screwing up GAIM
[06:45] <Hoxzer> wohoo it worked
[06:45] <SlyFly> Why did ALSA disappear and how can I get it back?
[06:46] <deFrysk> alsa dissapear ?
[06:46] <deFrysk> how ?
[06:46] <DarkElf109> rredd4: And you're changing/checking /boot/grub/menu.lst and not some other menu.lst, right?
[06:46] <damion> thanks for the hell also
[06:46] <Warbo> SlyFly: In what application
[06:46] <damion> where in /usr
[06:46] <SlyFly> ALSA is no longer showing up as an option in volume control as an audio device...
[06:46] <holycow> damion, everywhere.  on linux we ddon't do the same crap they do in windows and dump everything in one dir per app
[06:46] <DarkElf109> damion: When Ubuntu installs applications, they're split all over the drive. Configs in /etc, apps in /usr/bin, etc.
[06:46] <SlyFly> It used to be there...I had a selection of two audio devices, one was ALSA...now its not there anymore
[06:46] <Warbo> damion: Binaries=/usr/bin, shared files=/usr/share, generic stuff=/usr/lib and so on
[06:46] <rredd4> DarkElf109  yes /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:47] <sledmouth> DarkElf109: make sure he doesn't have /boot on sep. part which isn't mounted normally...
[06:47] <holycow> damion, we split th eapp up into subgroups, binaries, help files, icons, etc.
[06:47] <damion> i can see that
[06:47] <Ignite_> hey, i've been trying to use thoggen to rip my DVD, the progress bars say its done... but its still going and has one written 14.3MB, anyone had experience with this? should i leave it or is it likely to just go on forever?
[06:47] <damion> hey thanks
[06:47] <rredd4> sledmouth boot is not on another partition
[06:47] <Ashex> you know, it's not a very good idea to use Generic for your username in a linux channel
[06:47] <DarkElf109> Hrm...this is really, really odd
[06:47] <Ashex> lots of false alerts
[06:47] <sledmouth> rredd4: so there is not /boot entry in fstab?
[06:48] <damion> this is not over yet
[06:48] <holycow> damion, its harder for novice to find the app, but its easier for long term system maintance, especially for something as complex as linux where you can install litterally 100's of thousands of apps and still have a stable system that wont keel over
[06:48] <rredd4> sledmouth  checking
[06:48] <Warbo> Ignite_: I think it might keep going. It happened to me once, it just kept reencoding the same frame in the middle of a film. I don't know whether it is a disc problem, an application problem or an encryption problem
[06:48] <damion> hey i may be a novice but i love a challenge
[06:48] <SlyFly> why did ALSA disappear and where it did it go?
[06:48] <Ignite_> Warbo, alright, thanks for the help
[06:48] <sledmouth> ( i don't think ubuntu typically does that anyhow - gentoo does tho )
[06:49] <z2> how do I check what my local ip is ?
[06:49] <Warbo> ifconfig
[06:49] <z2> thanks
[06:49] <DarkElf109> sledmouth: I do it, just as a precaution...I get rm -f happy sometimes...I've even taken out an entire home partition and all my mail on my mailserver =P
[06:49] <rredd4> !pastebin
[06:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:49] <holycow> DarkElf109, *high five* me too bro
[06:49] <holycow> lol
[06:49] <sledmouth> i'm too lazy and just let os install do what it wants lately :(
[06:50] <DarkElf109> Hahaha. Glad to see I'm not alone =P
[06:50] <Ignite_> Warbo, did you manage to find any other software that got the job done as.. cleanly?
[06:50] <SlyFly> no ALSA for me?  I am a sad panda today without ALSA.
[06:50] <damion> question how do i set the default bittorrent program
[06:50] <damion> question how do i set the default bittorrent program
[06:50] <crimsun> SlyFly: what's the issue?
[06:50] <DarkElf109> That's what I love about Linux. Exemplifies the quote "With great power comes great responsibility"
[06:50] <DarkElf109> I can delete whatever I want...but it's my own damn fault =P
[06:50] <SlyFly> ALSA is not showing up as an option audio device in voluem control
[06:50] <DarkElf109> Err, sorry about the language ;)
[06:50] <Warbo> Ignite_: I don't think I tried that film again, but mencoder and stuff can rip DVDs (I think ffmpeg2theora might be able to make theoras of DVDs too)
[06:50] <rexur> hi
[06:51] <SlyFly> ALSA used to be available as an option...its not there anymore under voluem control
[06:51] <crimsun> SlyFly: what does ``cat /proc/asound/cards show you? Use http://pastebin.ca
[06:51] <DarkElf109> rexur: Hello
[06:51] <rredd4> sledmouth  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17975
[06:51] <crimsun> SlyFly: ``cat /proc/asound/cards'', rather
[06:51] <rexur> im new here
[06:51] <IcemanV9> damion: update-alternatives
[06:51] <Ignite_> Warbo, ok thanks
[06:51] <kelbizzle> Hey all.
[06:51] <Warbo> damion: Right click a torrent file, Properties, Open With and choose the default
[06:51] <deFrysk> SlyFly, in volumecontrol File>change device
[06:51] <DarkElf109> rexur: Well, then, welcome! If you've got a question, feel free to ask =)
[06:51] <DarkElf109> kelbizzle: Heya
[06:51] <kelbizzle> Whats going on elf.
[06:51] <rexur> thank's
[06:51] <deFrysk> SlyFly, and alsa is always there for its a kernel module
[06:52] <Warbo> Any idea why Evolution won't come up? It did before...
[06:52] <DarkElf109> kelbizzle: Trying to figure out why rredd4's grub menu isn't showing everything in menu.lst
[06:52] <dicesquirrel> Question... I'm using the fglrx driver, and when I type fglrxinfo, it gives me Mesa info, and everything 3D runs slowly. How do I fix this? I've tried various things from the forums, but nothing seems to work. Help!
[06:52] <rredd4> DarkElf109  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17975
[06:52] <kelbizzle> hmm..I wish I can help.
[06:52] <Warbo> dicesquirrel: Does "glxinfo | grep direct" say yes or no?
[06:52] <kelbizzle> I'm a nix noobie
[06:52] <rredd4> DarkElf109  it is in menu.lst  just not there when I reboot
[06:53] <DarkElf109> rredd4: Well, you're not booting from a separate partition...I'm really stumped here
[06:53] <DarkElf109> rredd4: Dumb question, but is it commented out?
[06:53] <rredd4> no
[06:53] <dicesquirrel> Warbo: it says no
[06:53] <rredd4> i will past it
[06:53] <sledmouth> patebin ur menu.lst
[06:53] <damion> haha sorry for bothering you all i just really want to understand ubuntu the OS is beautiful and stable unlike windows xp or 2000 good work i expect nothing less
[06:53] <Warbo> dicesquirrel: What model card do you have?
[06:53] <sledmouth> rredd4: what is ur /dev/hda2?
[06:53] <sledmouth> nothing?
[06:53] <dicesquirrel> Warbo: Radeon 9000 Mobility
[06:53] <SlyFly> crimsun, /proc/asound/cards shows my audio card...what does this say about ALSA?
[06:53] <rexur> anyone hir 17-20 yr old?
[06:54] <SlyFly> rexur, why?
[06:54] <crimsun> SlyFly: it means alsa detected the card just fine. Now test ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''. Is it audible?
[06:54] <rexur> uhm,
[06:54] <rexur> nothing
[06:54] <rexur> just askin'
[06:54] <Warbo> dicesquirrel: I think teh fglrx driver got broken recently for older cards, however the free driver should give 3D on your card (but I don't know the performance comparisons)
[06:54] <z2> how do I check which version of ubuntu I am running ?
[06:54] <crimsun> z2: lsb_release -r
[06:54] <DarkElf109> rexur: No, we won't send you naked pictures. Go away =P
[06:54] <deFrysk> rexur, wrong channel ? ;p
[06:54] <rexur> nope
[06:54] <kelbizzle> Anyone have a sec to answer a question for me,
[06:54] <Warbo> dicesquirrel: Fglrx didn't work for me on my radeon 9200, nothing 3D or even framebuffer worked :(
[06:55] <gmoore> aww im trying to boot dapper in VMWare to try it out and i get a kernel panic :-(
[06:55] <rexur> im not interested w/ a nude picx
[06:55] <kelbizzle> I might stump ya.
[06:55] <rexur> sorry
[06:55] <DarkElf109> kelbizzle: That's what we do =)
[06:55] <deFrysk> !ask
[06:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:55] <kelbizzle> :-D
[06:55] <dicesquirrel> Warbo: can I downgrade to an older fglrx?
[06:55] <DarkElf109> rexur: Well, that's a relief
[06:55] <dicesquirrel> Warbo: one that works?
[06:55] <kelbizzle> lemme get the message again.
[06:55] <kelbizzle> it's with wine
[06:55] <z2> hmm
[06:55] <Luuuucky> can anyone help me installing nVidia drivers? Actually binutils or somethin' whatever... Help me!
[06:55] <rexur> :-P
[06:55] <filemover> whats the best application to play mp3's in ubuntu
[06:55] <GuitarHero> amarok
[06:55] <GuitarHero> or listen
[06:55] <Warbo> dicesquirrel: Maybe, but you would have to build it yourself (or just use radeon like me)
[06:55] <z2> how do I translate 6.06 to warty or breezy ?
[06:55] <holycow> filemover, any it doesn't matter
[06:55] <dicesquirrel> Warbo: So how do I use radeon?
[06:55] <kelbizzle> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\qtracker.exe": Module not found
[06:55] <filemover> k
[06:55] <Warbo> dicesquirrel: Hang on, I wrote a guide somewhere....
[06:55] <kelbizzle> when I run wine qtracker
[06:55] <snoops> I absolutely love amarok - my favourite linux desktop application
[06:56] <DarkElf109> z2: 6.06 is Dapper Drake
[06:56] <z2> DarkElf109: thanks alot
[06:56] <DarkElf109> amaroK is KDE's killer app. It's like iTunes, without all the Apple =P
[06:56] <Luuuucky> when i start installation of nvidia drivers error message appears:  ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[06:56] <Luuuucky>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[06:56] <Luuuucky>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[06:56] <Warbo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[06:56] <Luuuucky> Please help me!
[06:56] <deFrysk> there is also xmms rhythmbox banshee etc for mp3
[06:56] <Luuuucky> !binutils
[06:56] <filemover> its says i dont have the neccessary decoder to play mp3's
[06:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about binutils - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:56] <SlyFly> crimsun, my audio is working perfectly fine, but its with OSS MIxer...but I am trying to use ALSA...
[06:56] <filemover> what do i do
[06:56] <snoops> DarkElf109 oh mean it's leagues ahead of itunes
[06:56] <kelbizzle> did anyone get that?
[06:56] <snoops> man*
[06:56] <Warbo> !mp3
[06:56] <laney> np:
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <IgorFreire> i
[06:56] <DarkElf109> snoops: Well, honestly, I wouldn't know...never used iTunes =P
[06:57] <jbrimble> I'm about to download Ubuntu, should I get the .list or .manifest file?
[06:57] <jbrimble> oh wait, there's a torrent. nevermind
[06:57] <Warbo> jbrimble: .iso
[06:57] <DarkElf109> jbrimble: You should get the .iso
[06:57] <sledmouth> xfmedia ;)
[06:57] <Luuuucky> PEOPLE PLEASEEEEEE!
[06:57] <rredd4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17976
[06:57] <DarkElf109> jbrimble: Or .torrent, if you like bittorrent
[06:57] <tritium> Luuuucky: calm down, buddy
[06:57] <Warbo> jbrimble: Ah yes, the torrent (the others are for verifying the download and stuff)
[06:57] <crimsun> SlyFly: double-click the volume control icon in the upper right corner, choose File> Change Device>
[06:57] <snoops> DarkElf109 banshee is basically the itunes clone for linux.. similar interface, everything.. amarok has features I've never seen in any other player - such as the covers view, and artist+lyric info just a tab press away
[06:58] <SlyFly> crimsun, that's the problem...there is no other option for audio device...no ALSA
[06:58] <GuitarHero> iwconfig shows that i have a signal strength and its seeing the essid/frequency.  i cant figure out why it sees it but i cant get on the internet
[06:58] <rredd4> sledmouth this is part of it, the important part... big file.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17976
[06:58] <crimsun> SlyFly: what're the options?
[06:58] <dicesquirrel> Warbo: oh well Warbo, don't worry about it. The radeon driver won't run ET well enough, so I'll just wait until they release a fixed fglrx. Usually only takes a day or two
[06:58] <SlyFly> crimsun, the only option is OSSMIxer
[06:58] <rredd4> DarkElf109 this is part of it, the important part... big file.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17976
[06:58] <crimsun> SlyFly: that's not a bad thing
[06:58] <crimsun> SlyFly: as long as your sound works fine, you're ok
[06:58] <tripppy> how do i login via xdmcp?
[06:59] <SlyFly> crimsun, it's not necessarily a bad thing, but ALSA has its benefits...
[06:59] <SlyFly> that's why I am trying to use ALSA
[06:59] <Warbo> Can anyone help me get Evolution up?
[06:59] <crimsun> SlyFly: does ``alsamixer'' work?
[06:59] <SlyFly> crimsun, alsamixer does work
[06:59] <DarkElf109> rredd4: In all honesty, I have no idea anymore...everything's correct!
[06:59] <crimsun> SlyFly: then why are you worried about being able to use ALSA?
[06:59] <GuitarHero> iwconfig shows that i have a signal strength and its seeing the essid/frequency.  i cant figure out why it sees it but i cant get on the internet
[06:59] <rredd4> DarkElf109  exactly...
[07:00] <DarkElf109> GuitarHero: Try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:00] <Warbo> Never mind, after a couple of days sulking it's decided to work again :)
[07:00] <SlyFly> because I am trying to listen to different audio players at the same time, and OSS Mixer doesn't provide that functionality...ALSA does...besides, I am also having other problems with OSS
[07:00] <snoops> what's the most recommended way to share files between two linux boxes? Just samba?
[07:00] <Luke> snoops: nfs
[07:00] <DarkElf109> snoops: NFS is faster
[07:00] <rredd4> DarkElf109  I used update manager initially to upgrade to 26... and this is what I got
[07:01] <GuitarHero> it says failued to start ifdown and ifup
[07:01] <GuitarHero> failed to open their statefiles
[07:01] <DarkElf109> rredd4: I'm really sorry, but I don't know how to help any more... =/
[07:01] <SlyFly> crimsun, because I am trying to listen to different audio players at the same time, and OSS Mixer doesn't provide that functionality...ALSA does...besides, I am also having other problems with OSS
[07:01] <rredd4> sledmouth any other ideas?
[07:01] <DarkElf109> GuitarHero: Do it as root
[07:01] <z2> snoops: or flash drive
[07:01] <rredd4> DarkElf109  thats ok, ty
[07:01] <tritium> rredd4: what happened after your upgrade?
[07:01] <sledmouth> ya rredd4
[07:01] <crimsun> SlyFly: oss mixer does not have anything to do with whether you can listen to different audio players at the same time
[07:01] <snoops> over a network I should have mentioned z2 :) Thanks though.. nfs cool bananas
[07:01] <rredd4> sledmouth this is part of it, the important part... big file.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17976
[07:02] <sledmouth> have u messed with menu.lst b4 on this system?
[07:02] <GuitarHero> ok its going through a bunch of intervals on eth0
[07:02] <sledmouth> and did u previously have different linux distro on the drive?
[07:02] <rredd4> tritium  I rebooted and 2.6.15-23 shows but not 26
[07:02] <filemover> can i add the gstreamer pluggins through add/remove programmes
[07:02] <z2> snoops: you said easier
[07:02] <z2> snoops: *easiest
[07:02] <snoops> nope I said most recommended z2
[07:02] <z2> ooh shit
[07:02] <sledmouth> some distros set grub to use file other than menu.lst
[07:02] <DarkElf109> z2: "what's the most recommended way" =)
[07:02] <tritium> z2: language, please
[07:02] <DarkElf109> !language
[07:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:03] <rredd4> tritium  2.6.15-26 are in /boot
[07:03] <z2> ok
[07:03] <tritium> rredd4: please try "sudo update-grub"
[07:03] <z2> didnt know junior might be awake at 1AM EST
[07:03] <z2> sorry
[07:03] <s|k> memtest at 1 hour and only 16% done, it's going to take 7 hours now, man its just getting slower and slower
[07:03] <rredd4> tritium did that same results
[07:03] <rredd4> tritium http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17976
[07:03] <deFrysk> z2, over here its 7 am
[07:03] <snoops> heh only 5pm in nz z2
[07:03] <DarkElf109> z2: Time zones, man. It;s only 10 on the West Coast
[07:03] <DarkElf109> z2: The Internet never sleeps
[07:04] <rredd4> sledmouth using dapper
[07:04] <vaka> I have a big problem... My root account hasn't root permisions, and I can't give them to it because i haven't these same permisions
[07:04] <aunes> I really like the colors I get with vim syntax highlighting on my ubuntu box, but when I ssh to my redhat server, It's way too dark. How do I copy the color settings over?
[07:04] <GuitarHero> ok restarting the networking didnt work, its never worked before i should add that
[07:04] <sledmouth> rredd4 , please ' find /boot ' and paste
[07:04] <tritium> rredd4: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-26.386
[07:04] <DarkElf109> !root
[07:04] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:05] <GuitarHero> i used ndiswrapper to install the drivers and it is detecting the hardware
[07:05] <DarkElf109> aunes: Copy /etc/vim/vimrc from Ubuntu to your other computer
[07:05] <SlyFly> I'll just cry myself to sleep since I can't use ALSA...it's out of my life, and I am out of its life...we've parted ways, and I must now find another companion...farewell fellow Ubunturs
[07:05] <aunes> DarkElf109: thx
[07:05] <tritium> rredd4: that last one should do the trick
[07:06] <rredd4> sledmouth  abi-2.6.15-23-386     config-2.6.15-26-386      initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386  System.map-2.6.15-26-386  abi-2.6.15-26-386     grub                      memtest86+.bin            vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 config-2.6.15-23-386  initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386  System.map-2.6.15-23-386  vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386
[07:06] <rredd4> tritium did that too
[07:06] <tritium> rredd4: what was the result?
[07:06] <z2> under what package category would I find databases ?
[07:07] <filemover> hey wow!
[07:07] <GuitarHero> anyone have any ideas how i can fix my connection?
[07:07] <filemover> mp3's work on here
[07:07] <filemover> LOL
[07:07] <filemover> i got it to work
[07:07] <GuitarHero> yay
[07:07] <z2> under what package category would I find databases ?
[07:07] <filemover> it was pretty easy
[07:08] <filemover> now i gotta work out how to enable usb audio anyone have any clues
[07:08] <Warbo> z2: OpenOffice type databases would be in Office stuff. More complex ones may be in system tools, administration, networking, development or anything else. Databases are used for all kinds of things
[07:09] <rredd4> tritium Not touching initrd symlinks since we are being reinstalled (2.6.15-26.44)  Not updating image symbolic links since we are being updated (2.6.15-26.44)  Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub  Testing for an existing GRUB menu.list file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst  Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...  Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386  Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-2
[07:09] <rredd4> 3-386  Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin  Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
[07:09] <z2> Warbo: thanks, turns out it was in MISC
[07:09] <isthisnicktaken> can someone help me fix my xorg......I was following http://aaltonen.us/archive/2005/03/02/ubuntu-linux-on-the-ibm-thinkpad-t42/#video and it screwed up, but was able to go back, now with no opengl or anything
[07:09] <z2> I was looking for postgresql
[07:09] <GuitarHero> one last try.... anyone know how to fix a connection when it shows up in iwconfig but wont actually connect with firefox or any internet program??
[07:09] <vaka> how can i enable the root account?
[07:09] <DarkElf109> filemover: Plug in the usb sound device. It'll be picked up, usually
[07:10] <tritium> rredd4: ok, next time don't paste please
[07:10] <filemover> ok
[07:10] <DarkElf109> vaka: sudo passwd, I think
[07:10] <tritium> rredd4: was it reinstalled?
[07:10] <rredd4> yes
[07:10] <filemover> thnx DarkElf109
[07:10] <DarkElf109> =)
[07:10] <filemover> ill give it a go
[07:10] <filemover> lol
[07:10] <sledmouth> rredd4: so u say ur menu.lst changes don't show up in grub menu at boot? can u specify 26 manually at that point?
[07:10] <tritium> !enter > filemover
[07:10] <filemover> this is the easiet linux distro ive seen yet
[07:10] <isthisnicktaken> 2nd that
[07:10] <filemover> lol
[07:10] <rredd4> sledmouth how?
[07:10] <Lynoure> 2nd easiest for me.
[07:10] <aunes> DarkElf109: when I upload it, it breaks my syntax highlighting. Any clues as to why?
[07:11] <GuitarHero> well thanks anyway
[07:11] <sledmouth> at boot - u can edit the grub lines
[07:11] <sledmouth> then boot
[07:11] <rredd4> sledmouth change 23 to 26?
[07:11] <DarkElf109> aunes: Might need to install the syntax package for RedHat
[07:11] <sledmouth> ya
[07:11] <DarkElf109> aunes: And THAT I can't help with, sorry
[07:11] <tritium> rredd4: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.list by hand
[07:11] <DarkElf109> aunes: But when you get it installed, it should be enabled
[07:11] <sledmouth> tritium he did
[07:12] <aunes> DarkElf109: it works perfectly fine if I rename my .vimrc file to vimRC (ie: not recognized)
[07:12] <rredd4> tritium to change what please?
[07:12] <aunes> DarkElf109: meaning that I get syntax highlighting normally, its just crappy colors.
[07:12] <DarkElf109> aunes: Oh...hrm. Lemme check something
[07:12] <tritium> rredd4: to add the kernel info that's not being added
[07:12] <sledmouth> he pasted his menu.lst and it looks fine
[07:12] <rredd4> yah
[07:13] <rredd4> yeah
[07:13] <bobby> hax!~
[07:13] <DarkElf109> aunes: Might want to delete the first line of the copied vimrc. setting the runtimepath for the debian way of things is probably throwing it off
[07:13] <horsefeathers> hello everyone
[07:13] <DarkElf109> Heya horsefeathers
[07:13] <dou> hi. will the plf repo not support ubuntu anymore? anyone know?
[07:13] <horsefeathers> how goes it?
[07:13] <sledmouth> rredd4: reboot, hit 'e' on the grub line so u can edit it, u can then edit ea. line relating to change 23 to 26
[07:14] <sledmouth> then hit 'B' to boot
[07:14] <aunes> DarkElf109: Glorious. thx.
[07:14] <horsefeathers> :)
[07:14] <rredd4> sledmouth ok
[07:14] <rredd4> brb
[07:14] <sledmouth> it won't be permanent tho
[07:14] <DarkElf109> aunes: =)
[07:14] <sledmouth> obv.
[07:14] <horsefeathers> is anyone new to linux and ubuntu like myself?
[07:14] <isthisnicktaken> yeah
[07:14] <z2> yes
[07:14] <isthisnicktaken> me
[07:14] <deFrysk> no
[07:14] <horsefeathers> whoohoo :)
[07:15] <rredd4> sledmouth hopefully I will be back... brb
[07:15] <rredd4> if this works
[07:15] <Warbo> dou: I have found it unresponsive recently. Ubuntu developers are always trying to incorporate the most wanted stuff though
[07:15] <sledmouth> u did say the grub menu doesn't include 26, right?
[07:15] <rredd4> yes
[07:15] <sledmouth> k
[07:15] <sledmouth> go for it
[07:15] <isthisnicktaken> I am having Xorg problems.....trying to get better graphics on my laptops mobility 7500
[07:15] <isthisnicktaken> I screwed up my config and lost openGL support.
[07:15] <horsefeathers> I am a bit new to linux, but i heard I can get wobble windows. Does anyone know where I can look to get that to work?
[07:16] <Warbo> isthisnicktaken: What driver?
[07:16] <dou> Warbo: ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ which was the place where ubuntu was isnt there anymore
[07:16] <Warbo> !xgl
[07:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:16] <filemover> I plugged in my usb headphones and enabled the capture device in the main volume settings but the sound is still comming from the PC speakers can anyone help
[07:16] <isthisnicktaken> how can i find it
[07:16] <Warbo> horsefeathers: Take a look at XGL ^
[07:16] <fivre> Where does X log errors and such to?
[07:16] <isthisnicktaken> http://aaltonen.us/archive/2005/03/02/ubuntu-linux-on-the-ibm-thinkpad-t42/#video
[07:16] <horsefeathers> alright, thanks Warbo :)
[07:16] <isthisnicktaken> I was trying to folloow that
[07:16] <Warbo> dou: No wonder it has been giving errors in aptitude :)
[07:16] <isthisnicktaken> since I have an R50.....its similar
[07:16] <DarkElf109> horsefeathers: And if your graphics card isn't the best, check the link for AIGLX in the #ubuntu-xgl channel
[07:17] <Warbo> fivre: /var/log/Xorg.0.log I htink
[07:17] <Warbo> isthisnicktaken: Are you trying the fglrx driver? (the non-free ATI one)
[07:17] <dou> yeah thx i'll remove it dont think i use any packages from it anyway. maybe canonical took its place?
[07:17] <z2> whats the command to refresh the locate database ?
[07:17] <dou> or something
[07:17] <gdb> z2: updatedb
[07:17] <sledmouth> updatedb?
[07:18] <isthisnicktaken> Warbo: i was tyring to......but then it said no monitor or something, had to edit the Xorg.conf to ati again
[07:18] <squidgy> Hi!  I just upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, and the sound volume is barely audible when everything is turned up to 100%.  Can anyone help?
[07:18] <isthisnicktaken> I had CLI only
[07:18] <z2> gdb thanks
[07:18] <holycow> squidgy, right click, open up volume control and turn up pcm
[07:18] <Warbo> isthisnicktaken: Just that I tried the non-free driver and although I got 2D working I never got 3D (on a Radeon 9200). I like to advocate the use of the radeon driver though :)
[07:19] <dou> bye bye
[07:19] <z2> I just installed postgres, whats the usuall commands to get things going on it ?
[07:19] <Warbo> isthisnicktaken: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:19] <isthisnicktaken> ok whats the best way to do that
[07:19] <isthisnicktaken> thx
[07:19] <Warbo> isthisnicktaken: Still a work in progress, but a few people have improved it for me
[07:19] <squidgy> holycow:  yup.  that's at 100%.  So is the master volume.  doing amixer shows everything at 100%
[07:19] <isthisnicktaken> let me try that thanks
[07:19] <holycow> squidgy, turn up the volume on  your speakers?  >_>
[07:20] <squidgy> holycow:  it's a laptop, and there is no external volume.  The volume change buttons on the laptop just modify the master volume.
[07:20] <holycow> ah!  *hmmm*
[07:21] <squidgy> holycow:  weird, huh?  And it works great in breezy and in winXP.
[07:22] <sledmouth> squidgy: unmuted?
[07:22] <holycow> yeah that is odd, i really don't know what else to suggest actually ... sounds like maybe something has changed in whatever driver is being used for the chipset ....
[07:22] <aunes> in vim, I'm doing :vert split index.html   .... is there a way to flip the two buffer's positions?
[07:22] <squidgy> I vaguely remember reading something somewhere in which someone was advised to change from alsa to oss or some such thing.  Does that make any sense?
[07:23] <sledmouth> drum roll
[07:23] <squidgy> sledmouth:  nope, it's not muted.  Tried that...laptop mute button makes it go from barely audible to silent.
[07:23] <rredd4> sledmouth  uname -r is now 2.6.15-26
[07:24] <sledmouth> i meant unmuted in alsa mixer
[07:24] <godtvisken> I am trying to extract files from a .rar file, but I keep getting the error "Cannot create /home/godtvisken/<archive name>/<file name>" using File Roller
[07:24] <sledmouth> nice rredd4
[07:24] <sledmouth> so - please ' find /boot/grub '
[07:24] <squidgy> not muted there, either.  The only thing that's muted is Line-In on the Capture panel, but that's of course not relevant.
[07:24] <rredd4> sledmouth then?
[07:24] <dash> dash`: pick a better dang nick!@
[07:25] <sledmouth> i'm curious if there is another grub config file in /boot/grub
[07:25] <sledmouth> asside from menu.lst
[07:25] <tritium> no, sledmouth
[07:26] <sledmouth> no?
[07:26] <notamisfit> sledmouth:grub.conf should be in there, but I think one of 'em is just a symlink
[07:26] <tritium> notamisfit: there is no grub.conf
[07:26] <sledmouth> rredd4
[07:26] <squidgy> are oss and alsa two competing linux sound systems?  if so, can I switch without breaking anything?
[07:26] <sledmouth> what do u have in /boot/grub ?
[07:26] <rredd4> yes
[07:26] <horsefeathers> does anyone not reccommend using XGL with a weird video card? I have the ATI 200m.
[07:27] <rredd4> menu.lst.save   menu.lst   menu.lst~
[07:27] <crimsun> squidgy: alsa implements oss as well.
[07:27] <rredd4> sledmouth only menu.lst files there
[07:27] <sledmouth> hmmm
[07:28] <tritium> sledmouth: as I said...
[07:28] <squidgy> crimsun:  what are their respective functions?  If I'm having trouble with my laptop volume being too low, can I 'switch' to the other to try that?  (i.e., does that question even make sense?)
[07:28] <Heretician> I have my cable directly connected to my computer (ethernet) i was wondering if ubuntu is supposed to automatically detect it
[07:29] <sledmouth> rredd4: so what options do u have at grub menu?
[07:29] <sledmouth> 23, 23 recovery, and memtest?
[07:29] <rredd4> sledmouth  2yes
[07:29] <Warbo> squidgy: OSS is the older Open Sound System. It was pretty basic and only allowed one program to access the soundcard (/dev/dsp), which is why sound servers like Arts were made (Arts is the only program accessing the soundcard, and everything else accesses Arts). ALSA uses many devices and in a more sophisticated way. ALSA also emulates OSS
[07:29] <rredd4> and 26
[07:30] <sledmouth> thought u said no 26
[07:30] <filemover> how do i change modes in vim
[07:30] <rredd4> sledmouth 23 in boot grub menu
[07:30] <tritium> rredd4: 26 is in there now?  Good, sounds like the dpkg-reconfigure worked
[07:30] <rredd4> not 26
[07:30] <sledmouth> omg
[07:30] <rredd4> thought u meant menu.lst
[07:31] <sledmouth> is there 26 recovery?
[07:31] <sledmouth> or no 26 at all
[07:31] <rredd4> no 26 in boot grub  only in menu.lst
[07:31] <rredd4> do not see 26 anything when I reboot
[07:32] <tritium> rredd4: please put your menu.lst on pastebin
[07:32] <rredd4> only 23
[07:32] <cajole> hey, i just put in a new motherboard and for some reason GDM wil no longer start
[07:32] <cajole> and the rror message doesn't shed any light on the situation
[07:32] <cajole> any suggestions?
[07:32] <squidgy> Warbo:  I see...thanks.  So given that this is linux, is there a possiblity that I can go poking around somewhere in /dev or /proc to access the volume at a more low level?  (I can't really use the system if it has no sound, and I really don't want to switch back to XP)
[07:32] <tritium> cajole: did you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[07:32] <rredd4> tritium  how do I paste the whole file, its big?
[07:33] <tritium> rredd4: can you open it in an editor, and copy/paste it all?
[07:33] <rredd4> ok, brb
[07:33] <cajole> tritium: it's running Xfree :\
[07:33] <z2> how do I configure my ubuntu machine to have a static address ?
[07:34] <z2> *ip
[07:34] <tritium> cajole: what are you running?  Warty?
[07:34] <cajole> yea
[07:34] <ajax4> I got a question. Whats the latest news on how the Debian exploit affects Ubuntu users?
[07:35] <Flannel> cajole: Warty is actually no longer supported.  You're encouraged to upgrade.
[07:35] <Flannel> ajax4: it wont
[07:35] <z2> why would a exploited debian dev server affect ubuntu?
[07:35] <cajole> righto
[07:35] <notamisfit> ajax4: possible kernel vulnerability. Other than that, not much.
[07:35] <cajole> being on diaup makes that pretty difficult
[07:35] <cajole> :(
[07:35] <tritium> cajole: are you using onboard video?
[07:35] <cajole> no,
[07:35] <ajax4> Has Ubuntu put out anything on this?
[07:36] <Flannel> cajole: heh, shipit can send you pressed CDs, and, someone may still be able to help, but modern ubuntus use x.org, so things are a bit different
[07:36] <rredd4> !pastebin
[07:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:36] <tritium> cajole: could it be that you disabled onboard video on your old mobo, but not this new one?
[07:36] <ajax4> z2: Ubuntu is based on Debian, so its possible.
[07:36] <cajole> could be, never had an onboard video
[07:36] <Warbo> squidgy: Sorry, I was reading something. I don't think OSS is enabled in Ubuntu's kernels, so anything would be ALSA. It really seems like a driver thing to me, rather than a settings problem
[07:37] <z2> ajax4: that they share dev servers ?
[07:37] <tritium> cajole: double check your BIOS settings, then
[07:37] <z2> ajax4: dont think so, stop trolling and go read something
[07:37] <Flannel> ajax4: we don't really share source with debian, Unless something has been inserted, and is still unfound in time for... well, a few months
[07:37] <cajole> righto
[07:37] <tritium> cajole: by the way, even XFree has a log file in /var/log
[07:37] <cajole> thx
[07:37] <sledmouth> cajole: type 'lspci' in terminal and look for vga
[07:37] <rredd4> tritium  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17977
[07:37] <ajax4> z2: Who's trolling? I'm asking a question. And what do you recommend I read, since you obviously have no answers?
[07:38] <tritium> z2: I wouldn't call ajax4's question trolling
[07:38] <Phaqui> how come I had to  sudo apt-get install traceroute  .. or to ask another way; why isn't it "included by default"?
[07:38] <tritium> smile, everyone
[07:38] <ajax4> tritium: Thanks. I'm just wondering how concerned I should be.
[07:38] <z2> ajax4: are you running anything mission critical ?
[07:38] <tritium> ajax4: really, there's no need to worry.  It was a debian development server.  Not even debian users are affected
[07:39] <aldo> Hi. Yesterday I tried the kubuntu desktop, but now I want to restore the original ubuntu orange startup splash screen. How can I do?
[07:39] <ajax4> z2: Nah, just my home system.
[07:39] <rredd4> tritium  i also have kubuntu, just checking it out
[07:39] <Flannel> ajax4: not very.  Definately not with dapper, at that.  It'd be edgy (or maybe edgy+1, I dont know if theyre still following the source with edgy)
[07:39] <z2> ajax4: so what does it matter?
[07:39] <z2> ajax4: http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/253
[07:39] <godtvisken> Is there a light/fast bittorrent client like uTorrent for linux?
[07:39] <Flannel> z2: you need to lighten up.  He's just asking a question.
[07:39] <pppoe_dude> godtvisken, bittornado
[07:40] <ajax4> z2: Right, people's home systems don't matter.
[07:40] <tritium> rredd4: 26 is there now
[07:40] <snoops> ktorrent I believe is supposed to be pretty similar godtvisken
[07:40] <pppoe_dude> godtvisken, also check out ktorrent for kde
[07:40] <z2> sorry for being harsh
[07:40] <rredd4> yeah but when i reboot??
[07:40] <godtvisken> ok
[07:40] <rredd4> I will reboot again.. brb
[07:40] <ajax4> z2: I'll check out the securityfocus.com site. Thanks.
[07:40] <snoops> bittornado is still one window per torrent right? Doesn't even have tabs?
[07:40] <interfear> hrm.. whats a good movie to dl on torrent
[07:40] <sledmouth> rredd4 , u stated on 23 and memtest; what about windoze and debian , do they show up?
[07:40] <ajax4> Flannel & Tritium: thanks for the info.
[07:40] <z2> but I work at a large corporation and stupid security questions annoy me
[07:40] <rredd4> tritium  yes
[07:41] <tritium> ajax4: :)
[07:41] <z2> cause I get them all day
[07:41] <tritium> rredd4: so what's the problem now, then?
[07:41] <rredd4> no 26
[07:41] <tritium> rredd4: it's there...look for yourself
[07:41] <snoops> interfear Elephants Dream
[07:41] <squidgy> Warbo:  it appears that I'm running a driver called "snd_hda_intel", which I imagine has been tested right into the ground since it's probably on every intel mobo made in the last few years.  Is there something I can do to attack this?  I'm a competent programmer but I'm new to linux and hence just don't know where to start.
[07:41] <sledmouth> rredd4 , u stated on 23 and memtest; what about windoze and debian , do they show up?
[07:41] <rredd4> but its not there when i reboot  as a choice
[07:41] <rredd4> yes
[07:42] <Cntryboy> Im wanting to install xgl, but the site im reading says to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but I have 2.1KB and its almost 200mb, the site states I need to get the latest mesa packages. Is there away I can upgrade just the latest mesa packages?
[07:42] <rredd4> only 23 windoze, memtest, recovery
[07:42] <rredd4> no 26
[07:42] <sledmouth> no debian either?
[07:42] <rredd4> even though its in menu.lst
[07:42] <rredd4> thats kubuntu not debian
[07:43] <z2> weird
[07:43] <rredd4> kubuntu is there also
[07:43] <z2> whats the default root pass in ubuntu ?
[07:43] <snoops> Cntryboy think you're gonna need more free space dude
[07:43] <Cntryboy> I have the space
[07:43] <rredd4> brb  gonna reboot again
[07:43] <Cntryboy> but I don't have the bandwith
[07:43] <rredd4> poof
[07:43] <Cntryboy> Can I just get the mesa packages, instead of a full distro upgrade?
[07:43] <snoops> should just be able to apt-get install'them
[07:44] <Cntryboy> what are the names of the mesa packages?
[07:44] <tritium> Cntryboy: often times, packages have dependencies that'll require many, many packages to be upgraded as well
[07:44] <isthisnicktaken> Warbo: didnt seem to work and the help wasnt much help :(
[07:44] <Cntryboy> well has anyone here got xgl working with out distro upgrade?
[07:44] <snoops> but at the moment compiz, xgl and the associated mesa packages etc are getting updated every couple of days, if not every day
[07:44] <snoops> it's still in alpha
[07:44] <isthisnicktaken> How can I tell which driver it is using?
[07:44] <Kirk_> Hi
[07:45] <Kirk_> Question.  Does anyone know where the bind9 configuration file is?  If not, what is the syntex for some search command in Ubuntu Breezy?
[07:45] <Cntryboy> snoop: do I need them though?
[07:46] <snoops> Cntryboy considering it being alpha software.. yeah
[07:46] <isthisnicktaken> Can someone tell me how to tell which video driver is being used?
[07:46] <Kirk_> Hey, sorry...lol
[07:46] <Kirk_> Anyway
[07:46] <rredd4> tritium  26 is not there only 23
[07:46] <snoops> glxinfo isthisnicktaken?
[07:46] <rredd4> sledmouth  26 is not there only 23
[07:47] <Cntryboy> okay ill try it
[07:47] <Kirk_> Does anyone know where the bind9 configuration file is, or what command I can use to find it?  It's called "named.conf".
[07:47] <Cntryboy> if wierd stuff starts happening
[07:47] <Cntryboy> how can I turn off xgl
[07:47] <Cntryboy> or uninstall it or what ever
[07:47] <rredd4> tritium  and of course other stuff... kubuntu, windoze memtest
[07:47] <Flannel> Cntryboy: #ubuntu-xgl for xgl support.  And, it depends on how you enable it
[07:47] <z2> any idea how to scroll up in irssi ?
[07:47] <sledmouth> rredd4 are u certain grub doesn't think /boot is on a different part than that of your ubuntu /
[07:48] <isthisnicktaken> snoops: client glx vendor string: ATI does that mean the "ati" not "radeon" driver
[07:48] <Kirk_> Does anyone know where the bind9 configuration file is, or what command I can use to find it?  It's called "named.conf".
[07:48] <Cntryboy> flannel: no one is speaking there
[07:48] <sledmouth> like ur kubuntu part perhaps
[07:48] <Cntryboy> been idle there for awhile
[07:48] <rredd4> sledmouth  different partition you mean?
[07:48] <sledmouth> yes
[07:48] <kelbizzle> hey  anyone know why wine will open a window then close before the details can ever load.
[07:48] <rredd4> sledmouth  I showed you fstab
[07:49] <scabootssca> how do i mount a linuc harddrive?
[07:49] <scabootssca> in live cd
[07:49] <sledmouth> boot into kubuntu and change menu.lst there for the heck of it
[07:49] <rredd4> ok, brb
[07:49] <Kirk_> Does anyone know where the bind9 configuration file is, or what command I can use to find it?  It's called "named.conf".
[07:49] <Cntryboy> flannel: Im using kde, do I need to get xserver-xgl also?
[07:49] <kelbizzle> hey kirk you can do a seach.
[07:50] <Kirk_> kelbizzle: What's the context for a search command?
[07:50] <notamisfit> Kirk_:updatedb and slocate <filename>
[07:50] <kelbizzle> there you go.
[07:50] <VirusDotNET> how can i change my screen resolution cause i don't want 1280x 769 or whatever it is
[07:50] <Kirk_> notamisfit: thanks, I'll try that.
[07:51] <Kirk_> Errored out.
[07:51] <isthisnicktaken> client glx vendor string: ATI ----does that mean the "ati" not "radeon" driver
[07:51] <Kirk_> sudo: slocate: command not found
[07:51] <Kirk_> sudo: slocate: command not found
[07:51] <notamisfit> scabootssca:make a temporary dir in mnt; then (for example): mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu
[07:51] <sledmouth> just 'locate'
[07:51] <IcemanV9> isthisnicktaken: lspci |grep -i vga .. mine is
[07:51] <Cntryboy> eh screw it I dont have all night to sit here.. lates all
[07:51] <IcemanV9> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[07:51] <Kirk_> sledmouth: thanks
[07:51] <Kirk_> Worked
[07:51] <Kirk_> :)
[07:51] <groupd> msnmessenger
[07:52] <godtvisken> How do I get my back/forward buttons on my mouse to work?
[07:52] <VirusDotNET> how can i change my screen resolution cause i don't want 1280x 769 or whatever it is
[07:52] <IcemanV9> isthisnicktaken: i used 'radeon' in my xorg.conf
[07:52] <sledmouth> VirusDotNET: gnome?
[07:52] <notamisfit> godtvisken: what does "ZAxisMapping" in xorg.conf show?
[07:52] <isthisnicktaken> direct rendering is still disabled
[07:52] <Flannel> godtvisken: help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[07:53] <isthisnicktaken> and I cant use "Powerplay" or the dynamic clocking
[07:53] <VirusDotNET> yes gnome i want 1280x1024 but it doesn't give me that open
[07:53] <IcemanV9> isthisnicktaken: using 'radeon' ? OR 'ati'?
[07:53] <VirusDotNET> option
[07:53] <isthisnicktaken> I changed the xorg to radeon
[07:54] <IcemanV9> isthisnicktaken: ok. change it back to 'ati' then
[07:54] <scabootssca> notamisfit, thanks it worked
[07:54] <notamisfit> scabootssca: happy to help
[07:54] <sledmouth> VirusDotNET: what video card do u have and what driver is specified in xorg.conf?
[07:54] <Kirk_> What context do I use to create a Bind9 ".db." file for a domain?
[07:54] <VirusDotNET> ATI Radeon X200
[07:54] <VirusDotNET> X300*
[07:54] <scabootssca> ok now howe do i uninstall programs from that harddrive?
[07:54] <ThylekShran> NARF!!!
[07:55] <isthisnicktaken> IcemanV9: restarting x
[07:55] <sledmouth> VirusDotNET: and what driver in xorg.conf?
[07:55] <IcemanV9> VirusDotNET: system > preferences > screen resolution
[07:55] <VirusDotNET> IcemanV9, i know that but it doesn't give me 1280x1024
[07:55] <VirusDotNET> sledmouth, im looking
[07:55] <scabootssca> how do i uninstall programs from a mounted linux drive
[07:56] <`Evil`> Hey, need help with make and C compiling in Ubuntu, installing mail-notification-3.0
[07:56] <DarkElf109> scabootssca: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:56] <IcemanV9> VirusDotNET: gotcha. 
[07:56] <VirusDotNET> ATI Technologies, Inc. RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] 
[07:57] <sledmouth>  grep -i drive /etc/X11//xorg.conf
[07:57] <Kirk_> What context do I use to create a Bind9 ".db." file for a domain?
[07:57] <kelbizzle> anyone play True Combat Elite.
[07:57] <`Evil`> Any help with make and C compiling in Ubuntu? installing mail-notification-3.0
[07:57] <VirusDotNET> kbd,mouse,wacom,ati
[07:58] <VirusDotNET> when i was on gentoo it was xorgconfig
[07:58] <Warbo> `Evil`: If it is a standard C program you just need "build-essential" installed
[07:58] <sledmouth> VirusDotNET: what modelines are included in xorg.conf?
[07:58] <notamisfit> VirusDotNET: should be the same with any X version
[07:58] <sledmouth> er modes
[07:58] <VirusDotNET> iwhen i do xorgconfig it says not there
[07:59] <notamisfit> VirusDotNET: strange
[07:59] <Kirk_> What context do I use to create a Bind9 ".db." file for a domain?
[07:59] <`Evil`> Warbo, tried everything, when i do sudo apt-get install build-essential, then i get E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[07:59] <`Evil`> Warbo, it says -> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:59] <`Evil`> is only available from another source
[07:59] <VirusDotNET> http://pastebin.ca/87792
[07:59] <Warbo> `Evil`: Do you have the standard repos in your sources.list?
[07:59] <Warbo> !easysource
[07:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:00] <rredd4> sledmouth  I am now in kubuntu,  in menu.lst, there is no  2.6.15.26  only 23... weird
[08:00] <scabootssca> anybody know what the ati drivers are called?
[08:00] <Warbo> fglrx, ati and radeon
[08:00] <scabootssca> ahh i forgot the l
[08:00] <scabootssca> thnks
[08:00] <`Evil`> Warbo, standard as in? I'm new to linux. I got whats installed by default in Ubuntu Dapper
[08:00] <tritium> Warbo: ati is just a wraper for radeon
[08:01] <rredd4> sledmouth and I did update-grub
[08:01] <Warbo> tritium: Is it? Cool
[08:01] <tritium> wrapper even
[08:01] <rredd4> no change
[08:01] <rredd4> tritium  I am now in kubuntu,  in menu.lst, there is no  2.6.15.26  only 23... weird
[08:01] <Warbo> `Evil`: Paste the contents or /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin so we can have a look
[08:01] <Warbo> !pastebin
[08:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:01] <`Evil`> K
[08:01] <godtvisken_> How do I get my back/forward buttons on my mouse to work?
[08:01] <zer0hour> heyhey
[08:01] <sledmouth>  rredd4: add it there and reboot
[08:01] <IcemanV9> rredd4: add the entry by hand, then
[08:01] <tritium> rredd4: was your kubuntu install updated?
[08:02] <zer0hour> quick question
[08:02] <rredd4> tritium  I did not do that yet
[08:02] <VirusDotNET> ill brb
[08:02] <sledmouth>  rredd4: add it while booted in kubuntu
[08:02] <tritium> rredd4: well, that's why
[08:02] <rredd4> what does kubuntu have to do with ubuntu?
[08:02] <zer0hour> im having some problems
[08:03] <tritium> rredd4: same base, different desktop environment
[08:03] <sledmouth> i think grub is looking in the partition ur kubuntu is on
[08:03] <spades> godtvisken https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[08:03] <sledmouth> rather than /boot on ubuntu
[08:03] <sledmouth> different partitions
[08:03] <`Evil`> Warbo, here -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17978
[08:03] <tritium> rredd4: before you add it by hand, please update it, and see if it updates your menu.lst properly this time
[08:03] <rredd4> slemouth  yup i agree!! thats it!
[08:03] <sledmouth> so simply add the ubuntu lines to your kubuntu grub menu.lst
[08:03] <sledmouth> the 26 ubuntu lines
[08:03] <rredd4> tritium ok
[08:03] <sledmouth> then reboot
[08:04] <sledmouth> tritium
[08:04] <rredd4> ok,, thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ty!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:04] <sledmouth> his kubuntu won't know of his ubuntu
[08:04] <sledmouth> so it wouldn't help
[08:04] <tritium> sledmouth: they're on the same machine?
[08:04] <sledmouth> by hand is only option
[08:04] <sledmouth> so
[08:04] <rredd4> I will get rid of kubuntu
[08:04] <sledmouth> different paritions
[08:04] <rredd4> that will fix it
[08:04] <Warbo> `Evil`: Looks like you have lost the first line
[08:04] <tritium> rredd4: you know you can install both without separate root partitions, right?
[08:05] <rredd4> no
[08:05] <sledmouth> make sure you re-run grub install if u dump kubuntu
[08:05] <rredd4> ok
[08:05] <sledmouth> he's right ,yo
[08:05] <Warbo> `Evil`: Look at the top one (the "deb-src" one), make a copy of it but in the copy change the "deb-src" to just "deb"
[08:05] <`Evil`> Warbo, umm ok, so whats the first line and also where can i get the default source.list if any
[08:05] <sledmouth> but nothing wrong with different partitions
[08:05] <PFA> i have an ipod connected to the computer and i want to disconnect it. i have unmounted it but the icon doesn't disappear from the desktop and it doesn't stop saying do not disconnect. what can i do to disconnect it?
[08:05] <`Evil`> Warbo, ok
[08:05] <Warbo> `Evil`: You know how to edit files as super user?
[08:06] <tritium> rredd4: that info would have been useful earlier ;)
[08:06] <notamisfit> PFA: Yank it. What's it gonna do?
[08:06] <sledmouth> lol
[08:06] <`Evil`> Warbo, i know how to get root, but not to open files in command
[08:06] <rredd4> tritium kubuntu and ubuntu on the same partition
[08:06] <rredd4> ??
[08:06] <PFA> notamisfit: i have no idea, but i have had really bad problems with iPods before so i am not willing to find out
[08:06] <neon_> nice program to make a dvds with gui?
[08:06] <neon_> jeje
[08:06] <Warbo> `Evil`: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" runs the text editor as super user
[08:06] <sledmouth> tritium i wondered after he pasted his fstab why hda2 was not accounted for ;)
[08:06] <tritium> rredd4: yes
[08:06] <tritium> sledmouth: good catch :)
[08:07] <GStubbs43> Quick question... Should I use qbittorrent, azureus, or bittornado for downloading a 700mb file?
[08:07] <godtvisken_> How do I get my back/forward buttons on my mouse to work?
[08:07] <rredd4> tritium  great job!!
[08:08] <sledmouth> ugh, i had to wife's friend earlier with bootcamp :((
[08:08] <rredd4> sledmouth  great job!!
[08:08] <`Evil`> Warbo, so I make it "deb http://" and then run apt-get for build-essentials?
[08:08] <Warbo> `Evil`: Also, there are some lines there which begin with "# deb" and "# deb-src". If you get rid of the # (but not in the comments :) ) then you will have access to more stuff (you may also want to create "deb" lines for all of those which are only "deb-src")
[08:08] <tritium> rredd4: no, you and sledmouth did it :)
[08:08] <rredd4> both did it
[08:08] <rredd4> ty
[08:08] <sledmouth> i wanted to tell her to wipe eet and put on xubuntu
[08:08] <Warbo> `Evil`: Yes. You will have to update apt first (apt-get update)
[08:08] <tritium> rredd4: any time, buddy :)
[08:08] <snoops> GStubbs43 they will all do the job..comes down to preference.. I prefer azureus personally
[08:08] <notamisfit> godtvisken: add the line "ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf under the mouse section
[08:09] <rredd4> sledmouth who was i talking to before you started helping?
[08:09] <rredd4> i want to tell him also
[08:09] <sledmouth> uh,
[08:09] <Kirk_> Hi
[08:09] <`Evil`> Warbo, Ok, Will update and also should I then remove the # from the cmd lines and also you're telling me to remove -src from every or only 1st line?
[08:09] <GStubbs43> I have used azureus, and I did like it, I haven't tried the other ones though and was wondering what you guys thought
[08:09] <sledmouth> starts with an N
[08:09] <thompa> i changed my agp aperture down to 64M from 128M and i can boot ubuntu
[08:09] <Kirk_> Do I have anyone here who knows how to setup a DNS server?  I found the exaample configuration that I can use, but I don't know what file to edit.
[08:09] <rredd4> something   elf109
[08:10] <sledmouth>  rredd4 DarkElf109
[08:10] <thompa> it should be 128 though
[08:10] <Kirk_> The sample configuration is here:  http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~magi/doc/bind9/Bv9ARM.ch03.html#AEN275
[08:10] <rredd4> thats it
[08:10] <Kirk_> What file do I edit?
[08:10] <Quarupt> whats a efnet server address?
[08:10] <Kirk_> irc.efnet.com I think
[08:11] <`Evil`> Warbo, or should I create a duplicate line for the ones with deb -src and remove -src from the duplicates?
[08:11] <GStubbs43> Another question, will Automatix work with Dapper?
[08:11] <sledmouth> so tired but don't want to sleep
[08:11] <rredd4> DarkElf109  menu.lst was running off of kubuntu not ubuntu  I have them on different partitions..  that was the problem
[08:11] <GStubbs43> or just breezy?
[08:11] <Warbo> `Evil`: deb-src gets source code and deb gets binaries. Preferably you want both of them for each source, so copy the deb-src lines and change the copies to deb, then get rid of any # before deb or deb-src entries. After you save the file run apt-get update then apt-get install whatever you need
[08:11] <Kirk_> Do I have anyone here who knows how to setup a DNS server?  I found the exaample configuration that I can use, but I don't know what file to edit.  The sample configuration is here:  http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~magi/doc/bind9/Bv9ARM.ch03.html#AEN275
[08:11] <thompa> ubuntu would get any screens unless i turn aperture settings down in bios, amd64, i think i disabled something else too.
[08:11] <Warbo> `Evil`: Exactly what you said :)
[08:11] <`Evil`> Warbo, Ok, will try it out, Thanks :)
[08:12] <GStubbs43> Nevermind I got it figured out
[08:12] <Kirk_> Do I have anyone here who knows how to setup a DNS server?  I found the exaample configuration that I can use, but I don't know what file to edit.  The sample configuration is here:  http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~magi/doc/bind9/Bv9ARM.ch03.html#AEN275
[08:12] <Kirk_> Please!
[08:12] <Kirk_> :|
[08:12] <thompa> the problem is if i change any bios settings ubuntu wont boot into graphic mode
[08:12] <tritium> Kirk_: please don't repeat
[08:12] <sledmouth> uhoh
[08:12] <Kirk_> tritium: sorry, I'm tired and aggrivated.  I'm not thinking.
[08:12] <Kirk_> :|
[08:12] <thompa> anybody? just  a clue?
[08:12] <spades> Kirk_ i think that should be in your /etc/named.cond
[08:12] <spades> conf*
[08:12] <tritium> Kirk_: no problem.  Just have some patience, please.
[08:12] <rredd4> see ya!  THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:12] <Kirk_> Sorry.
[08:12] <Kirk_> lol
[08:12] <Kirk_> I'll try that file.
[08:13] <tritium> Take care, rredd4
[08:13] <thompa> i think maybe i got power supply problems with nvidia 6600gt
[08:13] <Kirk_> Hey squad
[08:13] <Kirk_> :)
[08:13] <Warbo> Does someone mind downloading a file to clarify something for me?
[08:13] <polpak> Warbo: depends on what it is
[08:13] <thompa> Warbo: i will
[08:14] <thompa> but im upgrading, fixing to crash
[08:14] <Warbo> I installed a custom LHA archiver, but I'm wondering if Dapper's default can now do the same thing. Basically Breezy's lha package couldn't handle files like those on aminet.net
[08:15] <thompa> anybody having problems with  amd64?
[08:15] <PFA> i have an ipod connected to the computer and i want to disconnect it. i have unmounted it but the icon doesn't disappear from the desktop and it doesn't stop saying do not disconnect. what can i do to disconnect it?
[08:15] <thompa> for me it would not even boot, but 32 is working
[08:16] <Warbo> PFA: Did you unmount with right click, or with a terminal (either way, try the other)
[08:16] <hume> hi.... i am trying to get a tablet stylus to work, and would need to replace an xorg driver - but in dapper there are no xorg drivers with extension .o, only .so - anyone knos about this?
[08:16] <`Evil`> thompa, I did in the sense that I installed Dapper 64 release and not much support there for falsh/java/wine
[08:16] <PFA> Warbo: right-click -- how do you unmount with terminal?
[08:16] <polpak> Warbo: works fine if I sudo apt-get install lha
[08:16] <thompa> just pull the plug out on ipod
[08:16] <Warbo> PFA: "sudo umount /path/to/device" (so maybe /path/to/device is /media/ipod or something)
[08:17] <thompa> im running linux on my ipod
[08:17] <thompa> dual boot
[08:17] <Warbo> polpak: You can open Amiga LHA archives?
[08:17] <rredd4> sledmouth  when I delete the kubuntu partition...  will grub still show up before I boot into ubuntu?  since grub is now using the kubuntu menu.lst
[08:17] <polpak> Warbo: I can open the ones on aminet yes
[08:17] <Warbo> polpak: Cool, thanks.
[08:17] <polpak> Warbo: with file-roller but you have to install the lha package
[08:17] <thompa> my ipod will boot pcs with linux if i set bios to usb first
[08:17] <PFA> Warbo: didn't work :(
[08:18] <sledmouth> rredd4: before u do anything - do the grub install such that it looks for menu.lst etc on ur ubuntu
[08:18] <notamisfit> PFA: error message?
[08:18] <thompa> Evil: hi, ok
[08:18] <PFA> notamisfit: nope
[08:18] <sledmouth> rredd4: make a change in the menu.lst file to verify that it looks in the right place
[08:18] <sledmouth> then dump kubuntu
[08:18] <kholerabbi> what are the various ways to get gaim to startup on startup??
[08:18] <Warbo> polpak: Yeah, but I think there are two types or something. I had to look for ages to find the binary I am currently using (the UNIX source for LHA came out before Linux did, so I couldn't compile it with my limited knowledge)
[08:19] <sledmouth> rredd4: u'll want to go into grub shell yourself
[08:20] <rredd4> sledmouth  how do I make grub install look for menu.lst on ubuntu
[08:20] <kholerabbi> how do I get gaim to start on login?
[08:20] <thompa> Evil: do you have an idea why my ubuntu wont boot if i have agp aperture set to 128 , when the card is 128?
[08:20] <rredd4> sledmouth menu.lst?
[08:20] <tritium> kholerabbi: add it to your session
[08:20] <rredd4> sledmouth never been into grub shell don't know how, yet
[08:20] <sledmouth> rredd4: read about grub yourself; i don't remember off the top of my head
[08:21] <rredd4> ik
[08:21] <rredd4> ok
[08:21] <sledmouth> gentoo has good grub documentation on their site tho
[08:21] <rredd4> ok
[08:21] <`Evil`> thompa, I'm a newbie to Linux too :)  btw whats the error like? I night be able to help cos I did get some errors myself. Guessing you have onboard AGP
[08:21] <godtvisken> If I am used to uTorrent on Windows, what would be a good client?
[08:21] <sledmouth> u'll only have to enter like 4 commands to fix it rredd4
[08:21] <rredd4> boy did I make a mess..
[08:21] <thompa> gaim is awful, soory dude
[08:22] <thompa> get some text problem
[08:22] <godtvisken> thompa, what's better?
[08:22] <PFA> oh --- is it absolutely necessary that i have every previosu kernel version EVER In my grub menu?! it's getting really long and cumbersom
[08:22] <PFA> cumbersome**
[08:22] <thompa> konversation
[08:22] <kholerabbi> thanks
[08:22] <rredd4> PFA remove them in syanptic
[08:22] <Warbo> PFA: They are not previous then, you still have them installed :) Get rid of the "linux-image-xxxxxxxx" packages you no longer need
[08:22] <sledmouth> bitchX
[08:23] <thompa> godtvisken: i cant read the text well
[08:23] <notamisfit> bitchX rules
[08:23] <IcemanV9> PFA: you can remove them via aptitude or apt-get
[08:23] <PFA> can/ should i do that? :|
[08:23] <rredd4> sure
[08:23] <godtvisken> thompa, oh.. for irc. i thought you meant general chat clients
[08:23] <Warbo> PFA: As long as you leave the one you are using it is fine
[08:23] <godtvisken> thompa, i just like irssi
[08:23] <PFA> OK . . . .
[08:23] <PFA> thanks
[08:23] <thompa> oh i see this works for yahoo
[08:23] <rredd4> PFA uname -r don't remove that one
[08:24] <PFA> and uh . . . anyone have any ideas why my ipod refuses to unmount?
[08:24] <IcemanV9> PFA: fwiw, you might want to leave one old version in case of a newer one doesn't work.
[08:24] <Warbo> PFA: DRM
[08:24] <_bt> it has open files?
[08:24] <notamisfit> PFA: It's possessed by Satan. Best just to yank it
[08:24] <Warbo> :)
[08:25] <PFA> IcemanV9: OK, thanks
[08:25] <thompa> the other thing says irc i use that too
[08:25] <PFA> Warbo: what's that have to do with anything? :S
[08:25] <Warbo> PFA: It's funny that what :)
[08:25] <Kirk_> Aweosme
[08:25] <Kirk_> Everything works
[08:25] <Kirk_> Thanks for everything all of you!
[08:25] <PFA> notamisfit: i refuse. D: what if it does this every time? i can't just keep yankign it
[08:25] <_bt> can anyone help me fix my flash install on dapper? flash is working but lots of things on flash applets don't show
[08:25] <thompa> now it probably will not reboot
[08:26] <Warbo> _bt: Did you get the Free one or the non-Free one?
[08:26] <enyc> _bt: aah well you want to add extra things for that
[08:26] <PFA> oh and . . . which linux-image files do i need? :/
[08:26] <enyc> _bt: you need 'flashplayer-nonfree'
[08:26] <Warbo> PFA: Run "uname -r" and keep that one
[08:26] <enyc> PFA: packages... you mean
[08:26] <sledmouth> is there a links2 ubuntu package?
[08:26] <PFA> enyc: yes, whatever D:
[08:26] <PFA> Warbo: OK, thanks
[08:26] <enyc> sledmouth: not sure... .try 'elinks' ??
[08:27] <_bt> thanks enyc ill try that
[08:27] <sledmouth> elinks doesn't do graphic mode
[08:27] <sledmouth> and probably not javascript either
[08:27] <godtvisken> After I have edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf, how should I go about restarting X?
[08:27] <notamisfit> godtvisken: Ctrl-Alt-Bksp
[08:28] <sledmouth> ya
[08:28] <godtvisken> Thanks
[08:28] <harisund> I need some help with samba here (had it working in breezy. installed daper and don't know why the same doesn't work). I install smbfs, and do smbpaswd -a harisund. However, I am not able to access harisund home from a windows machine on hte lan. (and samba isn't even running on Ubuntu). What am I missing?
[08:28] <PFA> where do i find the grub menu list file?
[08:28] <sledmouth> ugh
[08:28] <sledmouth> rredd4
[08:28] <harisund> PFA /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:28] <odb|rescue> PF use locate man :D
[08:29] <PFA> harisund: thanks
[08:29] <renaldo> hello all.. .i have a question reg the screen resolution
[08:29] <renaldo> my only option is 1024x768
[08:29] <renaldo> how do i add more
[08:29] <spades> !resolution
[08:29] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:29] <polpak> !resolution > renaldo
[08:30] <notamisfit> renatofilho: section "Screen" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:30] <renaldo> polpak... what do i do !resolution
[08:30] <notamisfit> renaldo section "Screen" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:30] <renaldo> do i open a terminal window and navigate to that?
[08:30] <polpak> renaldo: read the message ubotu sent you
[08:31] <hume> anyone knows what to do with a modulle for xorg (wacom_drv.o) - with xorg-7.0.0ubuntu in ubuntu dapper there is no folder /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (or any other xorg .o-modules)...?
[08:31] <kholerabbi> Anyone know how to set a keyboard shortcut for the System Monitor - it isn't listed in the Keyboard Shortcuts app?
[08:32] <renaldo> thank you polpak
[08:33] <s|k> is this memtest taking 1 hour
[08:33] <s|k> to test 108k of memory?
[08:34] <s|k> and it's doing this sequentially until all 3gigs are tested?
[08:34] <sledmouth> memtest takes a while
[08:34] <s|k> what's a while?
[08:34] <polpak> kholerabbi: use gconf-editor and go to apps->metacity->keybinding commands  you need to add the command to one of the keybindings there
[08:34] <tritium> s|k: hours
[08:34] <s|k> it's almost 3 hours already
[08:35] <`Evil`> Warbo, Everythings installed and I also dont get any errors on ./config (i think) but make and make install wont work
[08:35] <renaldo> notamisfit ... don't mean to ask too many questions do i edit that file? (xorg.conf)
[08:35] <renaldo> do i do a vi xorg.conf???
[08:35] <sledmouth> ah 'links2 -g'
[08:35] <s|k> make sure you back it up first
[08:35] <notamisfit> renaldo: uh-huh sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:35] <Warbo> `Evil`: First of all install "checkinstall" and try to use that instead of "make install" (it makes a package which is nice)
[08:35] <s|k> renaldo: back it up first
[08:35] <renaldo> what's sudo for?
[08:36] <`Evil`> Warbo, K
[08:36] <s|k> renaldo: sudo stands for SuperUser Do
[08:36] <Warbo> `Evil`: Next, you may need some packages ending in -dev, anything that looks relevant
[08:36] <notamisfit> renaldo: sudo gives you root priveliges, which you will need to edit the file
[08:36] <s|k> Operation?
[08:36] <s|k> renaldo: back up the file first
[08:36] <harisund> the package gnump3d doesn't install cleanly on dapper. What do I do?
[08:37] <s|k> renaldo: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[08:37] <`Evil`> Warbo, from here -> http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/  ? and I install all  -dev packages from Synaptic?
[08:37] <Lobster> moin
[08:37] <renaldo> thanks s|k
[08:37] <Warbo> `Evil`: You can apt-get install checkinstall
[08:38] <abhinay> i installed gnome-clipboard-daemon , hw to use it ?
[08:38] <Warbo> `Evil`: You can also apt-get install mail-notification. But if you still want to build the source then you can do "sudo apt-get build-dep mail-notification"
[08:38] <s|k> abhinay: don't use it :/
[08:38] <s|k> abhinay: the linux clipboard is shit
[08:38] <s|k> just something to get used to
[08:39] <`Evil`> Warbo, Whoa. Now there's some nice piece of info ;)  I was building it cos I got it from the site and thought that was the only way :)
[08:39] <renaldo> ok im looking at the xorg.conf (the screen section) ... what should i change in there
[08:39] <s|k> renaldo: what are you trying to do?
[08:39] <Warbo> `Evil`: Normally I would tell people to check apt first, but I forgive you since your sources.list was dodgy :)
[08:39] <`Evil`> Warbo, Ok, where do you get, or how do you know these softwares are available.. eg: apt-get install <something>
[08:39] <renaldo> change the screen resolution
[08:40] <tritium> s|k: watch the language, please
[08:40] <s|k> renaldo: why don't you do that in gnome?
[08:40] <s|k> tritium: ok, sorry
[08:40] <`Evil`> Warbo, hehe.. thanks then
[08:40] <notamisfit> renaldo:add the resolutions you want in double quotes
[08:40] <renaldo> i only have one choice in gnome
[08:40] <renaldo> the one that the system is currently using
[08:40] <csk> hi all i am trying to install wine but i have seriously stuffed up someting in the installation process. is there anyway i can delete all the config files so that i can start fresh. i removed the wine program and reinstalled it but it didnt do the trick. thanks
[08:40] <polpak> `Evil`: apt-cache search <stuff>
[08:40] <renaldo> i want to go to a higher resolution
[08:40] <polpak> `Evil`: will help you find related packages
[08:40] <Warbo> `Evil`: Either use a GUI like Synaptic, or "apt-cache search packagename" will see if "packagename" is available
[08:40] <s|k> renaldo: that probably means your monitor can't handle any other resolution
[08:41] <Warbo> `Evil`: Or if you are stuck in the command line you can use aptitude
[08:41] <renaldo> windows can handle it
[08:41] <s|k> oh okay
[08:41] <renaldo> im sure ubuntu would
[08:41] <s|k> no idea then, I have the same problem with this monitor
[08:41] <s|k> it's at 640x480
[08:41] <renaldo> i have it set at 1024x768
[08:41] <renaldo> oh wow
[08:41] <s|k> I changed the resolution to something else in the xorg.conf
[08:41] <s|k> and it didn't change anything
[08:42] <s|k> it's a tiny monitor
[08:42] <s|k> I don't see why it can't work at 800x600 though
[08:42] <polpak> renaldo: if you read the info ubotu sent you would know you need to use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:43] <`Evil`> polpak, Warbo: Thanks (btw just checked out aptitude, is nice), so when I do apt-cache search ICQ, will it search only that filename "ICQ" or any package with ICQ mentioned
[08:43] <polpak> `Evil`: the latter
[08:43] <`Evil`> ah,ok, thanks
[08:43] <renaldo> i did polpak... i appreciate the help, but my knowledge of the bash and editing these files is very limited
[08:43] <`Evil`> Umm.. where does it pick up/search these from? any particular site?
[08:43] <polpak> renaldo: the command I mentioned doesn't require editing the file
[08:44] <Warbo> polpak: What is the exact way it searches, since I often see results which are dependant on the search-term package, or somethimes nothing to do with it
[08:44] <polpak> `Evil`: from the ubuntu repositories
[08:44] <polpak> Warbo: I think it searches package name, description, and possibly dependancies
[08:44] <Warbo> `Evil`: Those lines in sources.list tell it where to get stuff from
[08:45] <`Evil`> Warbo, ok, is this --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/  the dapper repository?
[08:45] <Warbo> `Evil`: Yes (don't bother going there in a browser though)
[08:45] <polpak> `Evil`: that lists them yes, but it's not the actual repositories
[08:45] <sledmouth> k - not a bitchX poser now :)
[08:45] <renaldo> what is the best way to learn the  bash
[08:46] <Warbo> renaldo: "man bash"
[08:46] <renaldo> is there a book you all used at first?
[08:46] <polpak> !cli
[08:46] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:46] <`Evil`> Warbo, I used to browse through them actually and found them pretty cool, installers for everything :)
[08:46] <polpak> renaldo: start there ^^
[08:46] <`Evil`> polpak, Where are they then, the actual ones? and ummm.. what is a universe then?
[08:46] <polpak> Warbo: that url isn't the repository, it's the package listing
[08:47] <maruthibg> help, running with the below error
[08:47] <maruthibg> Software index is broken
[08:47] <maruthibg> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[08:47] <brutopia_> I use ipython as my terminal
[08:47] <Warbo> `Evil`: Packages are better than that, since the installer is called DPkg and lives on your system, so you don't have to download the installer every time, just the actual program data
[08:47] <brutopia_> it's the most powerful tool
[08:47] <polpak> `Evil`: there are 2 community supported  repositories "universe" and "mulitverse"
[08:47] <revilot> anyone know of a mac like dock besides the one that works with gdesklets
[08:47] <notamisfit> maruthibg: so do it
[08:47] <snoops> is there a file browser for linux which has a similar view to the os x one where you choose a folder, then it opens up a pane to the right of it, you click that pane, another opens to the right..when all the space is used in that window, it scrolls to the right?
[08:47] <geoffP271> Hi. Anyone know how to mount a USB external HD in ubuntu 6.06(latest)?
[08:48] <Warbo> polpak: Oh, I thought it was a link to the directory structure. They must have put an index.html in there
[08:48] <`Evil`> Warbo, i see, kind of just d/l any updates, not the whole thing
[08:48] <notamisfit> geoffP271: if its plugged in it should do it for you
[08:48] <maruthibg> when i use the above i run with the error
[08:48] <maruthibg> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:48] <maruthibg> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:48] <Warbo> `Evil`: Exactly
[08:48] <aadil> hi, anyone can tell me the default root password for Draper Drake?
[08:48] <polpak> Warbo: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is the actual repositories
[08:48] <geoffP271> it's plugged, fstab add, won't mount or be recognized
[08:48] <polpak> !sudo > aadil
[08:48] <notamisfit> maruthibg: do you have an instance of apt running?
[08:48] <`Evil`> polpak, Any good wiki/place for ubuntu terminology and detailed help?
[08:48] <sybec> The Debian people got hacked because of a vulnerable kernel. It seems Ubuntu ["current"]  runs such a vulnerable kernel. When will we see an update?
[08:49] <sybec> And why hasn't this been done earlier
[08:49] <maruthibg> notamisfit, yes
[08:49] <polpak> `Evil`: wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <Warbo> maruthibg: Only one program can access APT at once. Close any synaptic windows, Adept windows, Update Managers and stuff and try again
[08:49] <`Evil`> polpak, Thanks
[08:49] <maruthibg> Wardo: getting the same error even when i closed it
[08:50] <sybec> And, furthermore, is there a "Securing Ubuntu" guide somewhere ?
[08:50] <notamisfit> geoffP271:what's the fs type?
[08:50] <geoffP271> ist part is vaft, and 2nd ext3
[08:50] <geoffP271> vfat
[08:51] <polpak> sybec: it was a local kernel exploit, so that limits the risk somewhat
[08:51] <Warbo> maruthibg: You are using sudo aren't you?
[08:51] <geoffP271> so it's /dev/sdb1, and /dev/sdb5
[08:51] <notamisfit> geoffP271:what's the error message from mount?
[08:51] <geoffP271> no such device
[08:51] <revilot> anyone know of a mac like dock besides the one that works with gdesklets
[08:51] <notamisfit> both of them>
[08:51] <geoffP271> had it running in FC3 this AM
[08:51] <sybec> polpak: Oh .. well .. if it's only local then no need to update *rolling eyes*
[08:52] <notamisfit> revilot:kxdocker, kooldock, engage
[08:52] <geoffP271> both, it's one drive,
[08:52] <verix> hey, does anyone remember the apt-get package for the kernel headers?
[08:52] <notamisfit> geoffP271:does it show up in lsusb?
[08:52] <geoffP271> two partitions
[08:52] <revilot> notamisfit: gnome?
[08:52] <geoffP271> no such device, again
[08:52] <Warbo> revilot: adesklets, maybe Karamba/SuperKaramba and I think KDE has a native one which I have seen referenced on KDE-Look.org a lot
[08:53] <renaldo> polpak i tried what you sent and it just restarted my os
[08:53] <geoffP271> I've unplugged, rebboted, several times, no change
[08:53] <polpak> sybec: particularly when you consider that there is no way to remotely access an ubuntu system be default
[08:53] <renaldo> i was at the command line again
[08:53] <_smd_> I got a new ISP today I can connect in windows but not in ubuntu.  What do i have to change? I went from dsl to broadband.
[08:53] <renaldo> didn't know what to do
[08:53] <aadil> polpak, thanks for the help
[08:53] <aadil> i found what i was looking for
[08:53] <notamisfit> geoffP271: does lsusb recognize the device?
[08:53] <Warbo> _smd_: Do you have an ethernet router or a USB modem?
[08:53] <geoffP271> no
[08:53] <verix> anyone? :<
[08:54] <sybec> polpak: So what? If I want to run OpenSSH Server, I'll have to "pay" for it?
[08:54] <_smd_> I have a ethernet modem
[08:54] <Warbo> verix: linux-headers`uname -r`
[08:54] <verix> thanks!
[08:54] <polpak> sybec: if you allow remote shell access to your system, then you should take additional steps to secure your system
[08:54] <Warbo> linux-headers-`uname -r` sorry
[08:54] <verix> I thought it was $(uname -r)?
[08:54] <verix> oh wait they're the same
[08:54] <verix> lol
[08:54] <verix> forgot about that
[08:54] <tritium> !enter
[08:54] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:55] <sybec> polpak: And such an additional step is running the latest kernel from kernel.org ?
[08:55] <verix> sorry, habit
[08:55] <Warbo> _smd_: Go into System>Administration>Networking and look for your Ethernet device. Set it to DHCP mode and activate it, and make sure it is the default gateway
[08:55] <geoffP271> here is output of cat when uSB plugged in
[08:55] <geoffP271> Jul 14 02:54:43 toshiba-A105-S2716 kernel: [4296634.628000]  usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8
[08:55] <geoffP271> Jul 14 02:54:44 toshiba-A105-S2716 kernel: [4296635.136000]  usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[08:55] <geoffP271> Jul 14 02:54:44 toshiba-A105-S2716 kernel: [4296635.644000]  usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10
[08:55] <geoffP271> Jul 14 02:54:45 toshiba-A105-S2716 kernel: [4296636.148000]  usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11
[08:55] <verix> probably makes it even worse that I type so damn fast ;P
[08:55] <sybec> I can't rely on Ubuntu to give me "up-to-date" security-wise software?
[08:55] <Warbo> !paste
[08:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:55] <polpak> sybec: the vulnerability exists in 2.6.13 up to versions before 2.6.17.4 and  2.6.16 up to versions before 2.6.16.24
[08:55] <renaldo> does this mean i can't change my screen resolution?
[08:55] <tritium> geoffP271: use pastebin!
[08:56] <geoffP271> ??
[08:56] <Flannel> sybec: you can.  What makes you think you couldnt?
[08:56] <renaldo> my xorg.conf file doesn't even list my current configuration
[08:56] <sybec> polpak: Yes, and my current kernel is 2.6.15-26-386. Now .. tell me if I'm wrong .. but isn't that "2.6.13 - 2.6.17.4" ?
[08:56] <_smd_> Warbo: i will try that tomorrow when i get back from work thanks.
[08:57] <kintaro> hi all, i is ok to build a production server on ubuntu server? does it support vmware? is vmware availble on ubuntu?
[08:57] <_smd_> I have to wake up tp gp to work in 4 hrs..
[08:57] <polpak> sybec: do you run openssh ?
[08:57] <sybec> polpak: Yes.
[08:57] <Flannel> sybec: ubuntu patches security fixes without changing version numbers.
[08:57] <polpak> sybec: then either upgrade your kernel or wait until the security update is released
[08:58] <Flannel> sybec: so, once an update is out for ubuntu, you'll get it.  I have no idea if it's currently out or not though.  But ubuntu will patch it.
[08:58] <geoffP271> have usbcore and usb_storage both running modules
[08:58] <Nilsy> Morning
[08:59] <notamisfit> geoffP271:ehci_uhd?
[08:59] <geoffP271> that is correct, but I can't find an entry for that
[08:59] <notamisfit> geoffP271:disregard. if it's got /dev entries, then the kernel can see it
[09:00] <geoffP271> under any device mounter
[09:00] <blanky> hey guys, how can I 'tar.gz' a directory and it's files
[09:00] <Kirk_> I have a question.  I am setting up another Ubuntu server, breezy badger 5.10, and my question is... should I set the hostname to the domain name?  The domain is "s1.alphahertz.com".  Should I set the network hostname to that?
[09:00] <Kirk_> blanky: tar --help
[09:00] <notamisfit> geoffP271: it does't show up under storage devices or anything like that?
[09:00] <geoffP271> it's in fstab, but not in mtab
[09:00] <furrykef> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu... I'm using the LiveCD right now
[09:00] <blanky> Kirk_, thanks, you could've just said the command...
[09:00] <verix> Linux is all about rtfm, blanky :>
[09:00] <Kirk_> blanky: I don't remember it off the top of my head.
[09:00] <notamisfit> geoffP271: look under the menus (ie where cdrom drives and such are)
[09:00] <Kirk_> blanky: I'm a noob too sort of. :P
[09:01] <Kirk_> So... my question? :S
[09:01] <blanky> verix, that's not the type of attitude to be taken in this channel
[09:01] <blanky> Kirk_, It's okay
[09:01] <verix> I know, I'm kidding
[09:01] <Kirk_> I want to get to bed, please answer it as soon as somebody can.
[09:01] <furrykef> When I try to create my filesystem (ext3), it seems to work for a few minutes, then it balks saying "failed to create filesystem" or something like that.
[09:01] <verix> what was your question, Kirk?
[09:01] <Kirk_> I have a question.  I am setting up another Ubuntu server, breezy badger 5.10, and my question is... should I set the hostname to the domain name?  The domain is "s1.alphahertz.com".  Should I set the network hostname to that?
[09:01] <geoffP271> I've made the dir in the /media
[09:01] <Warbo> furrykef: Have you tried doing it from a console?
[09:01] <geoffP271> dirs
[09:01] <verix> to alphahertz.com?
[09:01] <furrykef> Warbo - not yet
[09:01] <Kirk_> No, to s1.alphahertz.com
[09:01] <polpak> Kirk_: stop spamming. you can set the hostname to anything you like. yes it can be the same as the DNS name.. but it doesn't have to be
[09:01] <Kirk_> Alphahertz.com is managed by another server.
[09:02] <Kirk_> polpak: He asked what my question was...
[09:02] <verix> no, I think the hostname should be just "sl," not the whole thing, because the domain would be alphahertz.com
[09:02] <Warbo> sudo mke2fs -j /dev/device < furrykef
[09:02] <Kirk_> verix: OK thanks.
[09:02] <Kirk_> Good night all.  I might be back tomorrow for setup.
[09:02] <verix> if you're trying to get it on the network like that anyhow, I'm not so keen on dns and bind and such things
[09:03] <filemover> hi i keep on gettting Authentication failure when trying to change to root in a terminal but I know for certain what my password is can anyone help
[09:03] <geoffP271> do you have access to your fstab, and entry foy any USB drives, if you have them?
[09:03] <polpak> filemover: how are you "trying to change to a root terminal" ?
[09:03] <Flannel> filemover: using sudo you mean?
[09:03] <filemover> using su
[09:03] <blanky> I know I just asked this, but what's the command to tar.gz a directory and it's files
[09:03] <polpak> filemover: the root account is disabled use sudo
[09:03] <Flannel> filemover: root is disabled in ubuntu.  use sudo.
[09:03] <furrykef> Also in ubuntu's partitioner, I see these /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 (and -LogVol01) things
[09:03] <notamisfit> geoffP271: my usb drive doesn't have an fstab entry. pmount picks it up automatically
[09:03] <Flannel> !sudo
[09:03] <furrykef> Could they be interfering?
[09:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:03] <filemover> sudo
[09:03] <furrykef> They were created when I tried to install Fedora Core 5.
[09:03] <Flannel> for more information, filemover.  that url.
[09:03] <filemover> ok thnx
[09:04] <geoffP271> filemover, go to users/groups, add root, etc
[09:04] <Flannel> geoffP271: no reason to add root.
[09:04] <filemover> so i go sudo -u root password
[09:04] <tritium> geoffP271: please don't advise that
[09:04] <geoffP271> I understand, but you can edit it, and change pswd
[09:04] <polpak> filemover: don't do that
[09:05] <filemover> k
[09:05] <Warbo> furrykef: I know GParted doesn't understand LVM
[09:05] <Flannel> filemover: there's very few real reasons to add a root account.
[09:05] <polpak> filemover: just use sudo -i if you need a root shell
[09:05] <tritium> yes
[09:05] <furrykef> LVM?
[09:05] <polpak> filemover: but in general it's advised to just prefix your commands with sudo
[09:05] <filemover> i just want to execute a file that i cant execute as a normal user
[09:05] <narfmaster> furrykef, LVM = what Fedora does by default
[09:05] <filemover> ok
[09:05] <furrykef> Well... how can I undo it?
[09:05] <polpak> filemover: then type sudo /path/to/priviliged/command
[09:06] <filemover> ok
[09:06] <Warbo> furrykef: Logical Volume Manager. It's great, and Fedora uses it by default (those device mapper things). The Ubuntu text-installer can use it, but not the graphical one
[09:06] <filemover> i see
[09:06] <polpak> filemover: then type your password
[09:06] <filemover> great way to do it
[09:06] <filemover> ok
[09:06] <blanky> WOW!!! I synchronized my time because it was like 12 hours off, and now I get this error!
[09:06] <blanky> hey guys, how can I 'tar.gz' a directory and it's files
[09:06] <blanky> er
[09:06] <blanky> this one
[09:06] <filemover> then just use history to reuse it
[09:06] <narfmaster> furrykef, you'll have to delete those partitions to change them
[09:07] <Warbo> furrykef: You have "Physical Volumes" (specially formatted partitions) which are added to "Volume Groups" which then are divided into "Logical Volumes". Probably just removing the physical volumes will get rid of it all
[09:07] <blanky> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 14 06:47:13 2006
[09:07] <blanky> what to do!
[09:07] <narfmaster> blanky, sudo -K
[09:08] <furrykef> OK, I'm trying that...
[09:08] <blanky> narfmaster, same message :(
[09:08] <furrykef> It feels weird being able to install an OS and chat at the same time on the same computer... never did that before :)
[09:08] <blanky> narfmaster, ?
[09:08] <polpak> blanky: just shutdown your computer and wait 12 hours ;p
[09:08] <blanky> WOW
[09:08] <narfmaster> blanky, you'll have to adjust your time somehow :p
[09:09] <blanky> this is stupid because the same thing happens all the time, for some reason my time's way off
[09:09] <blanky> should I 'use UTC' ?
[09:09] <polpak> blanky: you should use your timezone
[09:09] <narfmaster> blanky, yeah try UTC
[09:09] <Flannel> no.  UTC is what your system clock should be set to.
[09:09] <polpak> blanky: and you should stay updated with ntpd
[09:09] <blanky> I tried UTC and now my time is like 7 AM (it's 12 AM)
[09:10] <tritium> only if you don't have dual-boot with windows
[09:10] <blanky> polpak, yeah I should
[09:10] <Flannel> blanky: you need to set your timezone
[09:10] <blanky> my timezone is messed up, I chose my timezone and it sets it to -7, when it's in fact -8
[09:10] <blanky> and still, that's way off
[09:10] <colk> blanky, 7am is right for UTC
[09:10] <filemover> im having some trouble enabling usb audio can anyone suggest something
[09:10] <blanky> colk, oh really?
[09:10] <colk> well 1 hour off
[09:10] <colk> UTC is GMT +0
[09:10] <Flannel> blanky: your system clock gets set to UTC, then linux changes the 'local time' for you, per the offset.
[09:11] <colk> wait 7 am is correct
[09:11] <blanky> oh, that's not what I want it to be
[09:11] <colk> for UTC
[09:11] <blanky> I want GMT -8
[09:11] <Flannel> blanky: Where do you live?
[09:11] <renaldo> could somebody help me adjust my screen resolution
[09:11] <colk> ok then TZ=PDT
[09:11] <colk> i think
[09:11] <blanky> Southern California, Los Angeles Area
[09:11] <blanky> Flannel, *
[09:12] <Madpilot> blanky, PDT is GMT -7 currently, though
[09:12] <Flannel> blanky: You want PDT, which is -7.  As you're on DST.
[09:12] <Flannel> PST is -8
[09:12] <blanky> ohhhh no wonder
[09:12] <blanky> so -7 is in fact right
[09:12] <s|k> oh my god, memtest operates indefinetely
[09:12] <blanky> Thanks guys lol
[09:12] <s|k> nobody told me this
[09:12] <s|k> I had to read it
[09:12] <s|k> this thing could be doing it for years
[09:13] <`Evil`> Just curious, how long or how may cmds does terminal store in history? Cos when I press up it goes back till my first cmd (about 3days) and also the list changes in normal and super-user  :?
[09:13] <filemover> are there any fancy terminal programmes for ubuntu
[09:13] <Flannel> filemover: there are plenty, what you looking for?
[09:13] <colk> blanky, you should be able to use the config tools in Ubuntu to set it
[09:13] <filemover> can some one suggest something
[09:13] <bbrazil> `Evil`: 400 is the defaul in bash iirc. See HISTCONTROL in the manpage
[09:13] <colk> or tzselect in terminal
[09:13] <filemover> something similar to what they have in suse
[09:14] <`Evil`> bbrazil, thanks :)
[09:14] <renaldo> i've seen some users get on the internet right from the terminal window
[09:14] <colk> `Evil`, and the history is diffrent in root and user because of the diffrent history files
[09:14] <renaldo> how do they do that
[09:14] <filemover> one that u can customize
[09:14] <Taget> I have Ubunto, but it doesn't support my Wireless Linksys Device.  Any Suggestions?
[09:14] <`Evil`> colk, Ah, i see
[09:14] <polpak> !wireless > Taget
[09:14] <Taget> yes?
[09:14] <colk> your history is stored in bash.history
[09:14] <bbrazil> colk: .bash_history
[09:15] <polpak> Taget: read the msg ubotu sent you
[09:15] <polpak> Taget: particularly the bit about ndiswrapper
[09:15] <Taget> tried it. no success.
[09:16] <No1Viking> I installed apache and can get to the site through localhost, how do I change rights so I can reach it with my IP-address?
[09:16] <Taget> It's in the configuration file
[09:16] <Flannel> No1Viking: you should be able to already.  unless you have a router in the way
[09:16] <polpak> Taget: then you need to complain to your manufacturer for not providing an open spec or linux drivers and (find supported hardware or wait for kernel updates.)
[09:16] <Flannel> No1Viking: in that case you'll have to setup port forwarding (or something like it) on the router
[09:16] <narfmaster> No1Viking, check your firewall settings
[09:16] <No1Viking> Flannel, I can reach the site but have no rights to read th content
[09:17] <No1Viking> Forbidden
[09:17] <No1Viking> You don't have permission to access /moodle on this server.
[09:17] <Taget> Apparently Linksys overlooks linux in general
[09:17] <No1Viking> The error I get
[09:17] <No1Viking> ^^^^
[09:17] <polpak> No1Viking: what are the permissions on the directory/file?
[09:18] <_CeRt_> .//join #slug
[09:18] <colk> which card is it Taget
[09:18] <Taget> who can I E-Mail about kernel updates?
[09:18] <No1Viking> polpak, lemme check
[09:18] <polpak> No1Viking: directories need to be world readable and executable, and files need to be world readable
[09:18] <Flannel> polpak: or owned by www-data
[09:18] <No1Viking> polpak, Ok, thanks
[09:18] <polpak> Flannel: indeed
[09:18] <No1Viking> I'll try with that
[09:18] <colk> I see a few listed in the wiki
[09:19] <No1Viking> Thanks guys
[09:19] <colk> under ndiswrapper
[09:20] <IRCMonkeyx> hi friends, i am going to install wine (for running win programs in ubuntu), but my windows drive is ntfs, will there be any problem?
[09:21] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, you don't use Wine with a Windows drive
[09:21] <filemover> whats the closest font to tahoma
[09:21] <filemover> in ubuntu
[09:21] <`Evil`> IRCMonkeyx, Wine uses your linux partition only, just creates kind of a virtual drive (i think) :)
[09:22] <IRCMonkeyx> isnt wine for running win programs in linux???
[09:22] <`Evil`> IRCMonkeyx, Yes it is
[09:22] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, yes but you install them in a special folder
[09:22] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyx: You can copy some DLLs across from Windows to WINE which may make it run more stuff though
[09:23] <IRCMonkeyx> so ntfs or fat32 is not matter of subject?
[09:24] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, no
[09:24] <Lobster> IRCMonkeyx, it will not be a problem, but you ant write on it and may some programs that have to write temp-or-whatever-files onto the ntfs-system will not work
[09:24] <chavo> IRCMonkeyx, if you try to use wine on programs that are on ntfs it won't work
[09:24] <IRCMonkeyx> warbo: what about , if i only have linux in my pc, so, wine has no use??
[09:25] <rsteele> ok
[09:25] <chavo> IRCMonkeyx, no it will create a fake windows drive in your home dir
[09:25] <LarsJ> Hello everybody. I have dumped windows for Ubuntu, I'm just learning, setup apache2, works great. Is there any way to change things so i can edit files in "/var/www" without having to do "sudo" all the time? BTW: im using this for site development, not actual live site hosting. Ubuntu rocks!
[09:25] <IRCMonkeyx> chavo: so that, wine is not useful for me at the moment because  windows drive is ntfs
[09:26] <chavo> then you can either install the programs there, or copy them from your ntfs
[09:26] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyx: WINE replaces Windows functions, but if you legally have access to real Windows functions (ie. You have Windows DLLs installed) then you can use those for better compatibility
[09:26] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, Wine has nothing to do with Windows
[09:26] <chavo> LarsJ, you can take ownership of /var/www or change the http root to a directory that you own
[09:26] <siimo> hi anyone know a freeware mp3 to 3GP file converter for Ubuntu or any other linux
[09:27] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, Wine only runs Windows applications
[09:27] <Warbo> siimo: Try gnomefiles.org
[09:27] <IRCMonkeyx> narfmaster: lets say i am gonna run excel, won't wine call my windows drive/program files ?
[09:28] <siimo> Warbo: no hits mate
[09:28] <siimo> cept real player
[09:28] <siimo> but thats only a player
[09:28] <Warbo> IRCMonkeyx: No, because you have installed Excel into the virtual WINE drive on your Linux partition
[09:28] <chavo> IRCMonkeyx, you install it into the fake windows drive like I said
[09:29] <Lobster> IRCMonkeyx, wine is able to execute a .exe file and don't cares where it is stored
[09:29] <LarsJ> chavo, I do that via consol and a sudo command right? i got a bookmark to a cool list of consol commands if thats the case and I'll have a look at that again.
[09:29] <chavo> and it will create shortcuts in your menu also
[09:29] <Lobster> LarsJ, i think you have to use chown
[09:29] <IRCMonkeyx> ohh i see, last question is installation win programs to wine (installing dll's etc) difficult??
[09:29] <Lobster> mut i'm not sure
[09:30] <chavo> LarsJ, chown username.username /var/www will do it but make sure this is local server only
[09:30] <Lobster> may read the mangpages ;)
[09:30] <narfmaster> IRCMonkeyx, no more difficult than in Windows
[09:30] <filemover> can anyone help me enable usb audio
[09:30] <chavo> woops need a -R on there to get the sub dirs
[09:30] <chavo> sudo chown username.username /var/www -R
[09:30] <Lobster> but don't expect wine to run every application you have...
[09:30] <IRCMonkeyx> friends thank you very much  for your interest
[09:30] <chavo> with your username of course
[09:31] <Lobster> when you have installed wine properly run in the terminal winecfg
[09:31] <chavo> IRCMonkeyx, also I haven't tried Office in regualr wine but it does work well with Crossover Office
[09:31] <verix> man
[09:31] <verix> vmware takes forever to make a disc
[09:31] <LarsJ> i sure do filemover, I just found that out via google heh, thanks
[09:32] <IRCMonkeyx> lobster: is there any spesific thing after running winecfg ?
[09:32] <Lobster> there you can configure yous wine-system...
[09:33] <Lobster> you'll have to find out what works best for you
[09:33] <LarsJ> thanks chavo! damn you guys are helpful. thanks again....worked sweet.
[09:34] <blanky> how can I stop the system from making a beep everytime i backspace into the terminal or something
[09:34] <blanky> nevermind :D
[09:35] <SurfnKid> blanky, wow that seems to annoy everyone
[09:35] <SurfnKid> blanky, figure it out?
[09:35] <narfmaster> System > Preferences > Sound
[09:35] <blanky> yeah thanks guys
[09:36] <SurfnKid> nice
[09:36] <SurfnKid> finally mom wont be annoyed by it
[09:37] <blanky> lol
[09:37] <c6rxytx67r> hi
[09:38] <c6rxytx67r> ppl
[09:38] <c6rxytx67r> anyone there??
[09:38] <c6rxytx67r> hello
[09:38] <notamisfit> no. nobody's here
[09:38] <verix> anyone alive and familiar with vmware?
[09:38] <SurfnKid> nope
[09:39] <c6rxytx67r> ya i am
[09:39] <`Evil`> When I open gmail.com in Mozilla browser, it says doc cant be displayed unless Personal Security Manager is installed. Whats that?
[09:39] <verix> there's a way to boot an already-existing copy of XP on a machine that dualboots thru VMware, right?
[09:40] <c6rxytx67r> no
[09:40] <c6rxytx67r> i don't think so
[09:41] <c6rxytx67r> however u can make a installed machine with screenshot and use it on any no computers
[09:41] <verix> hm.
[09:41] <c6rxytx67r> register
[09:41] <m_0_r_0_n> Windows is not able to read my usbdisk (FAT 32) any more, since I ve saved files (mp3, txt) from Ubuntu. Any idea how to fix it???
[09:42] <c6rxytx67r> @m_0_r_0_n
[09:42] <m_0_r_0_n> ?
[09:42] <c6rxytx67r> this should not happen normally
[09:42] <c6rxytx67r> unless u had done something
[09:42] <SurfnKid> m_0_r_0_n, can you network both machines?
[09:42] <c6rxytx67r> does light in pen drive glow
[09:43] <m_0_r_0_n> I ve just copied files to my usbdisk , nothing else
[09:43] <SurfnKid> or is it one
[09:43] <Lobster> doesn't it appear anymore in windows or appers it as unformated device?
[09:43] <trabtr_> How may I be of service?
[09:43] <c6rxytx67r>  does light in  drive glow???
[09:44] <m_0_r_0_n> yes, windows struggles to read the disk
[09:44] <trabtr_> c6rxytx67r, if you're asking "do your lights glow while you're in drive" the answer is yes, if you have your lights _on_.....
[09:44] <c6rxytx67r> pls give in yes or no
[09:45] <trabtr_> I don't know what you're asking..
[09:45] <m_0_r_0_n> trabtr_,  [09:56] <c6rxytx67r>  does light in  drive glow???
[09:46] <trabtr_> I can see that, but what the hell does that mean?
[09:46] <filemover> how can i tell what devices relate to what files in /dev
[09:47] <waldek> hejka
[09:47] <waldek> jest tutaj ktos?
[09:47] <m_0_r_0_n> It s the same as "Is the sun shining? Or does the light in drive glow? :_9
[09:48] <trabtr_> Well it's night time here :)
[09:48] <Matthai> one question... to who should I report broken package?
[09:48] <Lobster> Matthai, sure that its broken?
[09:48] <waldek> jest tutaj ktos z polski??
[09:48] <Lobster> !pl
[09:48] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:49] <Matthai> actually it has dependency problem. apt-get install realplayer
[09:49] <waldek> o widze ze jesescie:)
[09:49] <Matthai> xlibs is broken
[09:49] <Lobster> Matthai, did you run apt-get update and tryed again?
[09:49] <Matthai> yes
[09:49] <rellim> yo
[09:49] <m_0_r_0_n> trabtr_, then the answer would be no ;-)
[09:49] <Lobster> i got thar problem too.
[09:49] <c6rxytx67r> m_0_r_0_n i am asking that on ur removeable flash disk there must be a led light. does it glow???
[09:49] <trabtr_> m_0_r_0_n, k.
[09:49] <Lobster> *that
[09:50] <Lobster> i installed the breezy-version and everything is fine ;)
[09:50] <m_0_r_0_n> c6rxytx67r, yes
[09:50] <Matthai> and another problem is with vmware
[09:50] <rellim> c6rxytx67r: not all flash drives have leds .... just fyi
[09:50] <waldek> mam pytanie jaki jesr adres na  irc PL?/
[09:50] <Matthai> yes, I also installed deb package from breezy, but it is user unfriendly for average user
[09:51] <narfmaster> !pl
[09:51] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:51] <m_0_r_0_n> My flash drive has got a red light, that is glowing when windows tries to read it
[09:51] <rellim> Lobster: yeah, i've heard of some issues here and there that pop up in dapper but not in breezy ... its weird
[09:51] <Matthai> Lobster, I found it right now
[09:51] <Lobster> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xlibs&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all <-- i used that one
[09:51] <m_0_r_0_n> But it cant and the mounted drive dissappier from the explorer
[09:51] <Matthai> realplay is the right package
[09:52] <Matthai> but, I think wiki should be repaired then
[09:52] <Lobster> sure... repair it ;)
[09:53] <m_0_r_0_n> May be it has to do something with UTF-8 that is not convenient for FAT32???
[09:53] <paied> not convenient lol
[09:54] <narfmaster> hmm UTF-8 and FAT32 have some relationship?
[09:55] <filemover> whats the default device file in dev for the sound card is it dsp or dsp1
[09:55] <Matthai> what about this one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214899
[09:55] <Matthai> problem with vmware player
[09:55] <Madpilot> narfmaster, not as far as I know - why?
[09:56] <narfmaster> Madpilot, i was thinking maybe the file names...
[09:56] <narfmaster> Matthai, the kernel is ahead of the vmware player kernel module, yes
[09:56] <narfmaster> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15/+bug/52768
[09:57] <Hoxzer> can I somehow remove that warning about file type doesn't inform to be same as the contest of the file?
[09:57] <m_0_r_0_n> UTF-8 consider upper and lower case, but Windows is not able to distinguish upper and lower case
[09:58] <Matthai> narfmaster, ok, it is possible to compile it from the source?
[09:58] <narfmaster> m_0_r_0_n, the problem is that the Linux FAT32 driver should handle all that
[09:58] <verix> Matthai: I don't think so, VMware isn't exactly open-source
[09:58] <nano-> Are there any gnome bluetooth device file browser? So that I can easily pull files off my phone to my computer? The only application I can find is obexftp and it has some rough edges.
[09:59] <narfmaster> Matthai, i think it is possible but i'd rather wait for the official VMware maintainers
[09:59] <Matthai> OK
[10:00] <snoops> can I define in gconf or somewhere else what dimensions the window stretches to when I hit maximise?
[10:00] <narfmaster> Matthai, otherwise you might taint your kernel and that would be bad
[10:00] <Matthai> what happens when there is new kernel installed and you already have vmwware?
[10:00] <Matthai> something gets broken?
[10:00] <m_0_r_0_n> my usbdisk btw :-) http://www.trashfun.de/out.php?id=1170
[10:01] <narfmaster> Matthai, you either update your kernel later or don't use vmplayer (or install vmware yourself without the repos)
[10:02] <Matthai> hmm, but my problem is, that vmware installer said there is previous instance of vmware deteceted on the system
[10:02] <Matthai> but i did apt-get remove --purge
[10:03] <narfmaster> Matthai, i have no idea how to fix that
[10:03] <OrgulloKmoore> !dma
[10:03] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[10:04] <Matthai> ok, my "last" question: How to display program bars individual bars in the taskbar. By default if there is several copies of one program running, the "bars" are "joined" in the taskbar. How to remove that?
[10:05] <VoX> what is dapper-alternate.iso?
[10:05] <_MR_> Hi. Did anyone encounter very slow aptitude 'read/write package states' phase on Edgy?
[10:06] <narfmaster> VoX, that is the Dapper Drake with the text and OEM installers
[10:07] <VoX> ah ok
[10:07] <narfmaster> Matthai, if you right click on the Window List applet, that will let you change the Window Grouping preferences
[10:07] <Gorlist> Hi
[10:07] <Gorlist> just installed Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit from the server download
[10:08] <Gorlist> when the computer reboots and goes to load just takes me to a terminal??
[10:08] <Gorlist> fails to load into ubuntu
[10:08] <narfmaster> Gorlist, server means non-desktop
[10:08] <Gorlist> right!
[10:09] <Gorlist> I installed this ubuntu through a none gui installer?
[10:09] <narfmaster> so terminal is where you start
[10:09] <DiaboloX> hello!
[10:09] <bruenig> Gorlist, it loads into ubuntu, just not into gnome
[10:09] <DiaboloX> somebody can help me? jeje :P
[10:10] <narfmaster> Gorlist, if you want a desktop, you'll need to install one (like "ubuntu-desktop")
[10:10] <bruenig> Gorlist, if you want the desktop and you have an internet connection just do this: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[10:10] <Gorlist> the problem im having with using Ubuntu Desktop
[10:10] <Gorlist> is when it loads into Ubuntu from the CD, then you go to install it crashes
[10:11] <Gorlist> seems random, computer locks
[10:11] <Gorlist> now the Ubuntu 6.06 I used to install on this computer (32 bit) only had a text type installer
[10:11] <Gorlist> no gui
[10:11] <Matthai> narfmaster, thanks a lot
[10:11] <narfmaster> Matthai, no problem
[10:12] <jimwhimpey> I've just installed Ubuntu, but it keeps booting into windows, I switched the boot drive to D which is the partition I installed Ubuntu on
[10:12] <bruenig> Gorlist, that was the live cd ubuntu-desktop certainly more volatile than one on the hard disk. if you just do "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" all of your woes will be behind you
[10:12] <Gorlist> I can do that from the terminal?
[10:12] <Gorlist> will it be the same as a normal install
[10:12] <bruenig> yes
[10:12] <bruenig> just type that command
[10:12] <Gorlist> this is whats confusing me you see, this computer I install buntu like the server
[10:13] <Gorlist> ok thanks
[10:14] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, did you install ubuntu with the live cd?
[10:15] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: yep!
[10:15] <MenZa> bruenig: is there any other way ;P?
[10:15] <jimwhimpey> MenZa: don't distract him!
[10:15] <MenZa> jimwhimpey: rofl
[10:15] <bruenig> MenZa, well the server cd or the alternate install both use a keyboard based installation
[10:15] <MenZa> bruenig: point taken, point taken.
[10:16] <jimwhimpey> look what you've done MenZa
[10:16] <MenZa> jimwhimpey: xD
[10:16] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, if you installed it with the live cd it should have also installed grub
[10:16] <MenZa> I shan't keep posting offtopic stuff--tally ho!
[10:16] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: what's that mean?
[10:16] <bruenig> when you boot your computer it should give you an option to boot into ubuntu or windows
[10:16] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: that doesn't happen
[10:17] <jimwhimpey> is it because I didn't allocate a 'swap' drive?
[10:17] <Gorlist> right thanks, its installing
[10:17] <vicfred> hi all
[10:17] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, probably should have allocated a swap partition but I wouldn't think that would make it impossible to boot into
[10:18] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, did the install go all the way through and them prompted you asking if you wanted to restart now or continue using the live cd?
[10:18] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: that's the thing, I let it install, walked away and came back to the Ubuntu desktop
[10:19] <jimwhimpey> I was expecting some sort of confirmation
[10:19] <bruenig> when you came back did it have a little window which gave you two options one saying "Restart Now" and the other saying "Continue using the live cd"
[10:19] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: nope, just the desktop
[10:19] <bruenig> oh, i know what happened
[10:19] <jimwhimpey> yeah?
[10:20] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, did you just put the cd in and then turn your computer on and walk away?
[10:20] <moorh> Has anyone successfully used an Accton EN1207D with Ubuntu? From a bit of searching it seems to use the Realtek 8139 chipset
[10:20] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: haha, no
[10:20] <jimwhimpey> I actually installed it =P
[10:21] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, damn would have solved it
[10:21] <jimwhimpey> went through the whole process
[10:21] <bruenig> so you partitioned and did the time zone stuff
[10:21] <Jsm> can any one help me? iv  sort of forgot how to switch to kde 'cuz gnome is ugly lol
[10:21] <MenZa> Jsm: log out, when you're in GDM, choose 'Select Session'. Click KDE.
[10:22] <Jsm> Thanks MenZa
[10:22] <MenZa> np.
[10:22] <bruenig> jim, did you partition it?
[10:22] <dragon> hi
[10:23] <timalot> what un-official repositories are there for ubuntu?
[10:23] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: it was already partitioned, I just formatted one of the partitions, and set it as '/'
[10:23] <dragon> just wondering what is the code to install on hoary (installing java...)
[10:23] <bruenig> what did you format it as? i.e. what was the file system?
[10:24] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: don't know?
[10:24] <jimwhimpey> just checked the format box
[10:25] <bruenig> did you manually edit the partition table? and then hit forward?
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: yep
[10:25] <bruenig> but didn't edit anything?
[10:25] <timalot> dragon: its on the wiki... u have to install a package then dload the binaries from sun... then make a package that u can install
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: no, hang on
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> I'll do it all over again
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> and make the windows drive the swap
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> and watch it install all the way through
[10:25] <dragon> i know
[10:25] <jimwhimpey> brb
[10:26] <bruenig> well it is very simple, just make sure that you make a / partition that has an ext3 file system and make sure you have a swap partition of about twice your ram that has a file system of linux-swap
[10:26] <dragon> sudo -i dpkg install or sumtin
[10:26] <filemover> i just got usb audio to work by creating sym lynks to the devices /dev/audio and /dev/dsp is there somewhere i can put this script so that it will run when i plug in my usb headset so that it switches the soundcard
[10:27] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: can the windows partition be the swap?
[10:27] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, how much RAM do you have,
[10:28] <filemover> the windows partition is ntfs
[10:28] <`Evil`> jimwhimpey, how many drives do you have?
[10:28] <jimwhimpey> 348, something like that
[10:28] <filemover> u cant use it as a swap
[10:28] <bruenig> and is entirely too big
[10:28] <bruenig> your swap should only be at most 1 Gig
[10:28] <bruenig> here is what you do
[10:29] <jimwhimpey> `Evil`: one drive, 2 partitions
[10:29] <filemover> so can anyone help me with my question about that script for swaping my sound card
[10:30] <bruenig> go to manually edit the partition table. Go to the D drive as you call it and right click on it and select Delete. RIght click on it again and hit create, it will bring up a dialog box that gives you some options. Make it 750 MB and where it says file format make it linux-swap and keep it primary
[10:30] <jimwhimpey> hrmm ok
[10:30] <`Evil`> jimwhimpey, K, I'd follow bruenig's advice. Re-format and repartition to create swap space and re-install
[10:30] <bruenig> that will bring you back to the previous screen right click on the space you didn't use and hit create. Make this one ext3 file system and primary, Allow it to take up the remaining space and then go forward
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: so I'll have 3 partitions?
[10:31] <bruenig> yes
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> do I set the ext3 one as '/'
[10:31] <bruenig> yes
[10:31] <bruenig> and the other one as swap
[10:31] <bruenig> leave whatever the windows one gives you
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> and the original windows one?
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> ok cool
[10:31] <bruenig> probably something like /media/sda1
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> I'll go and try that now
[10:31] <_MR_> joint #edgy
[10:31] <jimwhimpey> yep, that's what it was
[10:32] <jimwhimpey> ok, I'll go do that and let you know how it goes
[10:32] <bruenig> thats fine
[10:32] <_MR_> Hi. Did anyone encounter very slow aptitude 'read/write package states' phase on Edgy?
[10:34] <sri_> hi
[10:34] <crazy4ubuntu> hi I am having a strange msg over and over again
[10:34] <crazy4ubuntu> I get this msg could not
[10:34] <bruenig> !pastebin
[10:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:34] <bruenig> use that if it is long
[10:34] <sri_> I for got my root password (how to recover it??)i know my admin password
[10:36] <pvh> hi... is there any way to easily get a list of how much space various packages in an ubuntu install are taking up?
[10:36] <pvh> i need to clear up space - delete big packages i dont' need...
[10:36] <gnube> pvh, I am sure there is a way to do that.
[10:36] <gnube> pvh, But is that the best way to get more space?
[10:37] <gnube> pvh, You might inadvertantly delete a package you need.
[10:37] <Dynalon> hi eb, sb knows where to download dapper restricted repo on DVD?
[10:37] <pvh> gnube: well, i know i don't need h323 libraries on this package, for instance
[10:37] <bruenig> pvh, sudo apt-get clean deletes all downloaded packages that you have gotten from apt
[10:37] <gnube> pvh, Do you have a lot of big files, like music and images?\
[10:37] <pvh> gnube: nope, this is for a live cd
[10:37] <filemover> is there a music player like foobar for ubuntu
[10:37] <gnube> pvh, Oh I see!
[10:37] <crazy4ubuntu> here is the msg, I did what advised but... I didn't help
[10:37] <crazy4ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17983
[10:38] <pvh> so what's taking up the extra space is extra scientific packages....
[10:38] <crazy4ubuntu> can any1 help with that ?
[10:38] <pvh> bruenig: thanks
[10:38] <sri_> I for got my root password (how to recover it??)i know my admin password
[10:38] <sri_> sorry i lost
[10:38] <bruenig> yeah, crazy4ubuntu, do as it says
[10:38] <bruenig> do this dpkg --configure -a
[10:38] <gnube> crazy4ubuntu, Did you run the command as root?
[10:38] <pvh> 'admin' password? you mean a user who is in admin group ?
[10:38] <crazy4ubuntu> yeah
[10:39] <crazy4ubuntu> I ran as root
[10:39] <bruenig> do dpkg --configure -a in the terminal
[10:39] <crazy4ubuntu> but i didn't help
[10:39] <filemover> is there a music player like foobar for ubuntu
[10:39] <bruenig> you probably interrupted a download
[10:39] <crazy4ubuntu> it didn't help
[10:39] <bruenig> hmm
[10:39] <crazy4ubuntu> it is a long process which does nothing ?
[10:39] <sri_> pvh, no i have my admin password but i forgot my root password
[10:39] <gnube> filemover, Sorry, not familiar with foobar
[10:39] <filemover> k
[10:39] <gnube> crazy4ubuntu, No, did the command line return?
[10:39] <bruenig> did you try to do whatever you were trying to do after that again?
[10:39] <pvh> sri_: then you can become root using 'sudo su' i think
[10:40] <crazy4ubuntu> no
[10:40] <pvh> and then changed the root password with passwd
[10:40] <crazy4ubuntu> it did not come back
[10:40] <crazy4ubuntu> it stuck
[10:40] <filemover> whats the most configurable player for ubuntu with a Graphic equalizer
[10:40] <gnube> crazy4ubuntu, Remember, in UNIX and Linux, Silence == success.
[10:40] <timalot> pvh, dpkg --status <package name> gives the install size
[10:40] <gnube> crazy4ubuntu, How long did you wait.
[10:40] <lavi> hi,
[10:40] <pvh> timalot: thanks!
[10:40] <sri_> pvh, ya,but sudo su logs into admin account,but not in roots account
[10:40] <crazy4ubuntu> hmm about 30 min
[10:40] <lavi>  gnome-terminanl seems having a largme memory while running(4.2 percent in 386M), has any terimale tool else instead?
[10:40] <crazy4ubuntu> it is p3 so things take time
[10:40] <pvh> sri_: no, it logs in as root...
[10:40] <filemover> is amarok ok to install on ubuntu
[10:40] <bruenig> lavi, you can use xterm
[10:41] <MenZa> filemover: of course it is
[10:41] <MenZa> sudo apt-get install amarok
[10:41] <crazy4ubuntu> it also says fix broken packages
[10:41] <filemover> ok
[10:41] <sri_> ya ,try by typing su
[10:41] <someusernoob> no
[10:41] <filemover> so u just add it via add/remove programmes
[10:41] <crazy4ubuntu> but I can't when I open synaptic it says there is another process dealing with packages
[10:41] <sri_> pvh, if u type su then u log into roots account
[10:41] <someusernoob> type: sudo aptitude install amarok
[10:41] <gnube> crazy4ubuntu, Yeah, it looks like you quit your package management in the middle of a download.
[10:41] <lavi> bruenig, I dont know how to profile the xtem, it seems hard to confiugure, has it mulit-tab feature ?
[10:41] <pvh> sri_: yes, and then u can change the root password ;)
[10:41] <fourat> anyone can ping this : 193.53.0.98
[10:42] <sri_> pvh, How??
[10:42] <pvh> sri_: passwd
[10:42] <bruenig> lavi, if you are looking for a light terminal, you are going to have to give up things like menus and tabs
[10:42] <timalot> fourat, no
[10:42] <Subhuman> fourat, thats down
[10:42] <pvh> fourat: no
[10:42] <sri_> pvh, if we type that cmd then it asks for old password
[10:42] <crazy4ubuntu> I guess, I was in a middle of updating mysystem when the computare completly froze ! I had to reboot
[10:42] <bruenig> crazy4ubuntu, that is what happens when apt is interrupted
[10:42] <sri_> pvh, i changed the password before
[10:42] <bruenig> either during update or installing packages
[10:43] <crazy4ubuntu> hmm ... can I solve it somehow ?
[10:43] <lavi> bruenig, cool :)
[10:43] <pvh> sri_: ok, then... do this: 'vipw' - that edits the password file
[10:43] <MenZa> filemover: no, just run sudo apt-get install amarok in your terminal.
[10:43] <fourat> thanks all
[10:43] <bruenig> that happened to me when flashplugin-nonfree got pulled from the repos right in the middle of my download
[10:43] <sri_> pvh, 1m
[10:43] <someusernoob> filemover: use sudo aptitude install amarok
[10:43] <pvh> and remove root's encrypted password - that's the bit between the colons (i.. ':') characters - 2nd field on the line
[10:43] <someusernoob> filemover: it will be easier to remove if you want to
[10:43] <pvh> save and you're done ;)
[10:43] <`Evil`> Can I run kopete in gnome?
[10:43] <crazy4ubuntu> bruenig, so how did you solve it ?
[10:43] <filemover> ok ill try it
[10:44] <filemover> aptitude command not found
[10:44] <bruenig> i had just installed the system and was just getting it ready with all of the codecs and plugins and stuff. so i just reinstalled
[10:44] <filemover> :(
[10:44] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: what do I put for preceeding and following space?
[10:45] <sri_> pvh, ya i open it through my admin account then how can i change it??
[10:45] <someusernoob> and you got ubuntu?
[10:45] <filemover> ill just do it though add/remove will that be ok
[10:45] <bruenig> when you make your first partition, you just make it 750 MB and whatever it gives you for space just take it
[10:45] <someusernoob> filemover: do this first: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[10:45] <filemover> ok
[10:45] <sri_> pvh, what is the process??
[10:45] <filemover> thnx
[10:45] <neon_> somebody knows something to convert .srt to .sub?
[10:46] <bruenig> when you make your second partition the following space should be 0, I am not sure how they measure preceeding space so I can't tell you that exactly
[10:46] <sri_> neon_, just use mv
[10:46] <filemover> wow
[10:46] <XrekcaH> ** Hey, Im having a really hard time geting the "make" and "make install" commands to work always says "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." but there is a makefile in the folder were i am... Any ideas???
[10:46] <filemover> amazing
[10:46] <someusernoob> filemover: installing applications with aptitude is much cleaner, because it keeps track of the installed dependencies, and since amarok is a kde app, it will install a lot of kde libs, so if you wish to remove it sometime, apt-get wont remove the dependencies
[10:46] <filemover> it just installed itself
[10:46] <neon_> sri_, just mv?
[10:46] <neon_> mm
[10:46] <filemover> LOL
[10:47] <sri_> neon_, ya type mv oldfile,newfile
[10:47] <arkygeek> hi everyone
[10:47] <bruenig> yeah, using kde on gnome gums up the system really badly
[10:47] <someusernoob> filemover: and aptitude does. so always type aptitude instead of apt-get, and yes, its a great way of installing stuff :)
[10:47] <sri_> pvh, can u tell about the password changing?
[10:47] <timalot> XrekcaH, u can try make -f makefilename
[10:47] <arkygeek> i am trying to set my intel i915 to not use the crt as a clone, but not having luck.. any ideas?
[10:47] <filemover> i did that now it still says command not found :(
[10:47] <filemover> sorry i spealt it wrong
[10:48] <someusernoob> filemover: what happens when you just type aptitude?
[10:48] <bruenig> he spelled it wrong
[10:48] <bruenig> or rather spealt it wrong
[10:48] <XrekcaH> timalot, the makefilename is ??? just makefile right?
[10:48] <someusernoob> brueing, ah, ic
[10:48] <`Evil`> bruenig, can i run kopete on gnome w/o any major issues?
[10:48] <timalot> XrekcaH, right makefilename is the name of the makefile... i think make looks for Makefile as a default
[10:48] <filemover> amarok is 100 mb is this normal
[10:49] <XrekcaH> timalot, nope same thing
[10:49] <someusernoob> filemover: thats probably because of the needed KDE libraries.
[10:49] <zool2005> hi all
[10:49] <filemover> yeah
[10:49] <filemover> i see
[10:49] <filemover> anyway its downloading it all now
[10:49] <zool2005> where is the default location for C header files for the running kernel?
[10:49] <timalot> rename your makefile to "Makefile" and give it a go
[10:49] <filemover> and happily installing itself
[10:49] <bruenig> i dont think there will be 'issues' it should run. It depends on the strength of your computer. My computer is not that great and so loading it up with a bunch of KDE dependencies doesn't agree much with it. If you have a good computer and a lot of space and stuff, there should be no real noticable difference
[10:49] <someusernoob> filemover: i should work fine when its installed
[10:49] <filemover> lol
[10:50] <filemover> yeah thanx for the help
[10:50] <filemover> its still doing its thing here
[10:50] <filemover> lol
[10:50] <OrgulloKmoore> k3b is about twice as slow as Nero :(
[10:50] <XrekcaH> ! make
[10:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:50] <filemover> its finished
[10:51] <filemover> wow
[10:51] <bruenig> OrgulloKmoore, are you using Kubuntu?
[10:51] <OrgulloKmoore> bruenig> yeah
[10:51] <filemover> installed like a treat
[10:51] <sri_> OrgulloKmoore, u can change the speed
[10:51] <timalot> XrekcaH, what is it some source u have dloaded and want compile/install?
[10:51] <`Evil`> bruenig, Ok. The dependencies for kde that you're saying, do they become a part of gnome and loaded everytime or have to be run kinda like wine?
[10:51] <OrgulloKmoore> how so, sri_?
[10:51] <someusernoob> filemover: yeah, much easier then installing stuff on a windows pc
[10:51] <OrgulloKmoore> I have the speed set at 32X an it goes at 10X anyway...
[10:52] <Subhuman> OrgulloKmoore, that means there are problems with your drive, how old is it?
[10:52] <gnube> `Evil`, No if you you install KDE and dependencies they will start automatically, it is not like wine at all.
[10:52] <sri_> OrgulloKmoore, there is an option like changing the speed
[10:52] <timalot> XrekcaH, usually the 1st thing u do is run ./configure --prefix=/usr/local in the source dir... then run make... then make install
[10:52] <bruenig> Evil, you just do 'sudo aptitude install kopete' it will have you install a ton of other stuff with it to make it run
[10:52] <Subhuman> burners wear out after a while.
[10:52] <sri_> OrgulloKmoore, 1m i will give the link
[10:52] <OrgulloKmoore> Subhuman> about a year old. I already did the hdparm command they specify at k3b.org
[10:52] <OrgulloKmoore> in the FAQ
[10:53] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: I just made those partitions but they came up with little warning signs and weren't on the next screen
[10:53] <bruenig> Evil, it runs like anything else and installs like anything else, but since it is not a native app, it runs a bit slower
[10:53] <`Evil`> gnube, Ok but I dont want to install KDE. atleat not yet, i only want to run kopete
[10:53] <Subhuman> OrgulloKmoore, if itz forcing 10x when u specified 32x, then it means your drive may have issues which cause it to write errors at 32x.
[10:53] <bruenig> Evil, you wont install KDE, just KDE dependencies
[10:53] <XrekcaH> Gaim2.0.0Beta3
[10:53] <sri_> OrgulloKmoore, u can seach in the ubuntu communities there is a discussion between k3b &gnome braker
[10:53] <XrekcaH> timalot
[10:53] <XrekcaH> ^^^
[10:53] <someusernoob> evil: sudo aptitude install kopete
[10:53] <deFrysk> kopete requires qt kdelibs and more kde related they call them "dependencies'
[10:54] <gnube> `Evil`, I understand. But to run Kopete you will have to install _some_ KDE stuff. You will not have to leave GNOME though.
[10:54] <someusernoob> evil: when you dont like it: sudo aptitude remove kopete
[10:54] <gnube> `Evil`, Gnome and KDE can live on the same box.
[10:54] <someusernoob> evil: and it wil be like youve never installed it
[10:54] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, what does your partitioning scheme look like
[10:54] <deFrysk> `Evil`, and if you dont like that use gaim
[10:54] <XrekcaH> timalot, i can never get the "make" command to work
[10:54] <`Evil`> someusernoob, gnube, bruening: Thanks for clearing that up
[10:55] <gnube> `Evil`, Gnome and KDE are just desktop environments. And while you cannot run both at the same time, you can run programs that use the other desktop environment.
[10:55] <`Evil`> deFrysk, I actually dont prefer gaim so much
[10:55] <timalot> XrekcaH, are you trying to install something from source?
[10:55] <XrekcaH> yea
[10:55] <zool2005> how do I install kernel source files, it isn't listed in synaptic?
[10:55] <deFrysk> `Evil`, I have xfce4 gnome and kde and useing gnome at the moment with some kde apps
[10:56] <MadsP> hi , this is the first time i ever run linux , i made a mistake by deleting the entire hd , and now im incapeable of running xp-setup . i cant seem to get the fdisk in terminal to work correct , so if one would be so kind to tell me how to format the entire harddrive, so i can start all over by installing xp and THEN linux in a 2nd partion it will be greatly apreciated. Q: how do I get back to absolute scratch again ?
[10:56] <XrekcaH> the install files says to do ./configure and then make then make install but no dice
[10:56] <bruenig> MadsP, just put the XP disk in
[10:56] <bruenig> if you have one
[10:56] <`Evil`> deFrysk, k thanks :)
[10:56] <Subhuman> Xappe, "sudo make install"
[10:56] <bruenig> unless by delete you mean completely wiped it as in bios and everything
[10:56] <MadsP> i have , but when its finished installing it runs : Error 17
[10:56] <timalot> XrekcaH, each step has to suceed.... configure makes sure u have the requirements to install the software
[10:57] <XrekcaH> yes
[10:57] <bruenig> MadsP, did you format it as ntfs and all of that stuff
[10:57] <filemover> can anyone help me ive got amarok installed but it wont play mp3's it just seems to skim through them really quickly
[10:57] <XrekcaH> that part works
[10:57] <XrekcaH> but make doesnt
[10:57] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: I have the Windows one, 10gb, I try to make the linux-swap one, but when it takes me forward it's not on the list there's just the windows partition, so I go back and it has a little warning sign next the the drive and says 'Unknown' under file sytem
[10:57] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, that warning sign is nothing
[10:57] <timalot> XrekcaH, configure will make a file called "Makefile" in the same directory... if it doesnt it has failed
[10:57] <bruenig> Jimwhimpey, you need to make both partitions before you hit forward
[10:57] <stefg> !codecs > filemover
[10:58] <XrekcaH> The makefile is in there
[10:58] <filemover> ive got the gstreamer codecs installed
[10:58] <XrekcaH> it made it
[10:58] <jimwhimpey> brunig: that's what I did the first time, they were both warning signs and weren't on the list in the next step
[10:58] <bruenig> Jimwhimpey, delete both of the warning sign partitions and make the swap partition, hit ok, then make the / partition hit ok and then hit forward
[10:58] <XrekcaH> but make command = no dice
[10:58] <stefg> filemover even 'bad' and 'ugly' ?
[10:58] <filemover> !codecs
[10:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:59] <timalot> XrekcaH, so when u type "make" it says no makefile found?
[10:59] <bruenig> try it again, perhaps but the / partition first and the swap second, that is How mine looks
[10:59] <GStubbs43> Why do 0's have little dots in them like eyes in some fonts?
[10:59] <XrekcaH> make: *** No rule to make target `makefile'.  Stop.
[10:59] <MadsP> well thing is that it didnt leave me any choice. i have reinstalled xp severa times before installing linux, and back then it gave me several options about partions type of hd etc. now only option is repair (and exit) , and by chosing repair, it says entire drive will be deleted , i have tried to chose that , and follow it to the end , and then when i reboot it comes with (gnome i think) error 17
[10:59] <timalot> XrekcaH, u dont type "make makfile" u just type make
[10:59] <bruenig> GStubbs43, that is how those fonts are
[10:59] <XrekcaH> i know
[10:59] <bruenig> Why does times new roman look like times new roman
[10:59] <bruenig> because it does
[10:59] <XrekcaH> thats what i did
[11:00] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: no go, not on the list, both warning signs
[11:00] <arkygeek> how do make keyboard shortcuts to commands?
[11:00] <timalot> XrekcaH,  "No rule to make target `makefile' " means u typed make makefile .... u just type make
[11:00] <XrekcaH> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[11:00] <XrekcaH> sry
[11:00] <bruenig> how big are these partitions you are making
[11:00] <XrekcaH> that the right one
[11:00] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: swap - 1gb, / - about 26gb
[11:00] <timalot> XrekcaH, that last error means there is no file called "makefile" or "Makefile" in the dir
[11:01] <bruenig> fomratted linux-swap and ext3 repsectively?
[11:01] <XrekcaH> there is
[11:01] <bruenig> respectively*
[11:01] <timalot> XrekcaH, well make cant find it
[11:01] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: I can't format them, they're not on the list of the next step where it gives you the checkbox to format
[11:01] <XrekcaH> so what do i do?
[11:01] <timalot> XrekcaH, if its called Makefile.am or Makefile.in it wont work
[11:02] <stefg> MadsP: Bad news, i guess your partiton table went haywire... not much to save. If you are experienced you could try a tool like testdisk, if it rebuilds a part-table for you, but messing around without knowing exactly what to do will only worsen the situation
[11:02] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, click the blank boxes under where the partitions are
[11:02] <bruenig> there should be an arrow
[11:02] <bruenig> and them pick the partition
[11:02] <bruenig> then*
[11:02] <filemover> is the Xine engine for amarok installed bye default in ubuntu or do u have to do it yourself
[11:02] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: ok, brb
[11:02] <XrekcaH> theres .in    .am   and .mingw
[11:02] <XrekcaH> three of them
[11:02] <XrekcaH> what do i do?
[11:03] <XrekcaH> rename?
[11:03] <timalot> XrekcaH, right it has  to be called Makefile not Makefile dot something else
[11:03] <timalot> XrekcaH, no dont rename....
[11:03] <MadsP> ehm , cant i chose a function to format the entire hd from terminal ?
[11:03] <MadsP> i read about that on microsoft support page
[11:03] <River> I have a ATI radeon 9800 pro on dapper. Cant someone point me to instructions to correctly get it working ?
[11:04] <timalot> XrekcaH, ./configure has to make a file called "Makefile" .... if it doesnt it wont work
[11:04] <stefg> MadsP: of course you can wipe the complete disk and start over... if there's no data on the drive you need
[11:04] <MadsP> there isnt it is on my external hd
[11:04] <MadsP> the data i need*
[11:05] <XrekcaH> timalot, i guess im lost here
[11:05] <MadsP> will you please tell me what to type to get to scratch (format all) ?
[11:05] <timalot> XrekcaH, whats the software u want to install?
[11:05] <bruenig> River, perhaps this helps? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:05] <sri_> how can i play .swf formats in which player?vlc can't play thos
[11:06] <stefg> MadsP: good... so think up a reasonable layout, and then boot a Live CD, erase the partition table and repartition the hd
[11:06] <XrekcaH> Gaim2.0.0beta3
[11:07] <stefg> !flash
[11:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:07] <sri_> stefg, how can i install flash?
[11:08] <stefg> sri_: please read it yourself :-)
[11:08] <MadsP> ok , i insert ubuntu desktop , chose run live ? (on install it gives me the options of partion) .. sorry im a novice ... does ubunt desktop (live cd) give me an option of just erase partion without further install ?
[11:08] <sri_> stefg, thank u
[11:09] <timalot> XrekcaH, like ubotu says u should look for pre-packaged software 1st.... to get gaim to compile u probably will need a few dev packages.... most likely libgtk+2.0-dev plus some others
[11:09] <Subhuman> MadsP, no you can resize the current  partition too
[11:09] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, you trying to complile gaim?
[11:09] <stefg> MadsP: the important point is to completly erase the partiton table first, so no broken bits and pieces fly around anymore
[11:09] <bruenig> hey XrekcaH, just a second, I found a .deb file for gaim 2.0 beta 3
[11:09] <bruenig> let me check it out and I will give you the link
[11:09] <sri_> stefg, can u tell the player name??
[11:09] <MadsP> and to that i have to choose?
[11:10] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, run "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim" , that will install all the dependencies you need to compile from source.
[11:10] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, then try to compile.
[11:10] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, and use checkinstall
[11:10] <Subhuman> !checkinstall
[11:10] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[11:10] <XrekcaH> ok ill give it a shot
[11:10] <timalot> Subhuman, cool i didnt know u could do that
[11:10] <bruenig> alright XrekcaH, use this link and download this package it is .deb and will work much more smoothly http://dissociatedpress.net/uploads/gaim-2.0.0beta3_2.0.0beta3-1_i386.deb
[11:12] <stefg> MadsP: just boot the live CD, i can walk you thru partitioning  fom there
[11:12] <bruenig> XrekcaH, did you do that?
[11:12] <MadsP> like insetting it now ? ok 2 secs
[11:13] <XrekcaH> Well i have to install from the source because i cant compile the plugins im trying to use for the beta with the deb
[11:13] <timalot> Subhuman, does check install only work on package source... or can it work on upstream tarballs aswell
[11:13] <bruenig> why not?
[11:13] <timalot> checkinstall
[11:13] <MadsP> ok , it is in now ? or did you mean i should reboot from Cd ?
[11:14] <stefg> !info flashplugin-nonfree > sri_
[11:14] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:15] <bruenig> XrekcaH, what plugins are you trying to get?
[11:15] <bruenig> let me see if i can get them with the .deb install
[11:16] <XrekcaH> guifications For the beta
[11:16] <Subhuman> timalot, anything that you "make install"
[11:16] <XrekcaH> thats the only one i have tryed so far
[11:16] <Subhuman> timalot, you just do "sudo checkinstall" instead of "sudo make install"
[11:17] <C|int> hey guys, long time no see
[11:17] <MadsP> please
[11:17] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, you dont compile the deb.
[11:17] <bigfoot1> how come when I try to "create archive", not all the selected files are in the package?
[11:17] <pvh> well... in case anyone's interested... i got a little bash-ism for listing the sizes of all installed packages...
[11:18] <bruenig> Subhuman, he doesn't want to use the deb because apparently it doesn't have a plugin that he wants
[11:18] <bigfoot1> (in nautilus).
[11:18] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, you jus do "sudo dpkg -i gaim-xxxx.deb" then install the plugins after.
[11:18] <stefg> MadsP: yes... you cant run a system off the hd you are about to erase completly... start the live CD and reconnect from there
[11:18] <C|int> hey guys, do you know if the xserver-xgl, xgl in general, would work on an Acer Aspire 3610, I just installed recent ubuntu lately, and from the nice package I got in mail, I was really busy in my 3d cad, and Adobe Software, on windows , also, I did get VMware Workstation latest installed, also an upgrade I did from 5.0 which works really good on ubuntu, however I know that XGL might help a bit :P
[11:18] <River> bruenig: thanks attempting to follow those
[11:18] <Subhuman> XrekcaH, the idea of a "plug in" is that it goes in AFTER the install.
[11:18] <MadsP> ok, brb
[11:18] <Lichte> i'm trying to install from the livecd......I can't understand this horrific disk partitioner.....are there any docs for this thing ?
[11:19] <C|int> and also btw, its a sucker for my wireless, but I'f I have too, I am going replace the mini pci, wireless broadcom, with atheros probably :P
[11:19] <Subhuman> C|int, what graphics card does it have?
[11:19] <Subhuman> C|int, you can use broadcom cards
[11:19] <kfasheldon> Hi please help, my pc has two hd's, unbuntu boots from slave on ide 0 and the master is an old ntfs drive (no windows on it), I have moved the files I needed from the master and now wish to format it, my question is will the system still boot or will formating remove mbr/boot record from the first drive and thus prevent grub loading linux from drive 2
[11:19] <C|int> I could help users out, with replacements on laptops .. been working hard lately ,  in the IT :)
[11:19] <rsteele> hello
[11:19] <C|int> hey Subhuman, long time no see
[11:19] <Subhuman> C|int, you just have to get the firmware for it, ive done it on two of my machines
[11:19] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: there's no arrows or boxes?
[11:19] <C|int> doesn't work bud
[11:19] <raxip> Hi
[11:20] <C|int> Acer needs a sit down.. scoldin meetin :-)
[11:20] <Subhuman> C|int, did for me, did the md5 fail? cuz i have a working link for one.
[11:20] <C|int> something, with the bcm45xxx or something,
[11:20] <Lichte> can I use this disk partitioner to setup my own partition scheme ??
[11:20] <Hajuu> Hey guys! Anyone know if its possible to manually unlock my cdrom? Having some issues with it.
[11:20] <Subhuman> C|int, yes same as mine
[11:20] <C|int> might be hardware problem for me you think eh
[11:20] <stefg> Lichte: Quite understandable... Id prefer a.) using the text-mode installer (aka 'alternate'-CD) b.) doing the partitoning before the actual install and only tell the installer how to use the already partioned disk
[11:21] <bigfoot1> how do i tar all files in a folder (via terminal)?
[11:21] <C|int> wireless works great though, has to be , linux system, somethin
[11:21] <Subhuman> anyways, what card do you have C|int ?
[11:21] <raxip> I'll think about it
[11:21] <rsteele> that's a secret
[11:21] <C|int> 1 sec, let me do a lscpi
[11:21] <Heretician> How long does it usually take Ubuntu CDs to ship?
[11:21] <bruenig> jimwhimpey what does the screen look like, is it a place that has your windows partitions beside a thing that says /media/sda1 or is it the graphical representatin of your disk with the partitions
[11:21] <r0rz> hi
[11:21] <Subhuman> Heretician, 4-5 weeks?
[11:21] <Heretician> Alrighty
[11:21] <C|int> about , 4 weeks I would say her, maybe 5
[11:21] <Lichte> I agree
[11:21] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: the graphical reprsentation
[11:21] <Lichte> I'd rather use fdisk
[11:21] <timalot> kfasheldon, if delete the partition and create a new one ... it should be o
[11:21] <timalot> k
[11:21] <C|int> they been gettin better,and for some reason, my friend in Australia, got his pretty quick :P
[11:22] <Lichte> how can it not let me set the mount points ???
[11:22] <C|int> brb Subhuman
[11:23] <kfasheldon> timalot> if I delete the hda1 partition it should leave the boot info alone - i want to be sure anyone as I realy do not want to reintsall and dont think there is anything like the old msdos sys /mbr command
[11:23] <bruenig> jimwhimpey, you have to go to the next screen
[11:23] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: the extra partitions aren't on the next screen, just the windows one
[11:23] <C|int> -> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]   802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[11:23] <bruenig> right
[11:23] <bruenig> under where it says partitons one there should be other boxes
[11:23] <bruenig> that are blank
[11:23] <kfasheldon> timalot> remember I have linux booting from hdb1 so the pc must load grub from where ?
[11:23] <sybec> Can you change the color of the cursor of gnome-terminal to .. say .. "blue" with keeping the rest of the text white?
[11:23] <timalot> kfasheldon, it should leave the mbr alone.... u could create a bootdisk just be safe tho....
[11:24] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: ok, let me check that out
[11:24] <stefg> Lichte: I can't help really much... only used the Live-CD installer once, found that it creates a huge vacuum and got back to text-mode install
[11:24] <C|int> hopefully, I"m getting a nice positition at best buy too Subhuman, hee people laugh when I said, got the Mac OS X for intel :P, and amd, :) but I don't have the SSE3, and SSE2 only , and that take some configuration power :P
[11:24] <kfasheldon> >timalot boot disk idea might work , think I can work that one out done sim b4
[11:24] <timalot> kfasheldon, grub will load from the mbr on hda
[11:24] <Lichte> it won't let me setup the mount points it seems
[11:25] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: just boxes
[11:25] <Lichte> am i missing something ?
[11:25] <C|int> having the SSE3 more easier for the install, and no passing of SSE2 to enable, which I couldn't find out how to do. :P
[11:25] <jimwhimpey> bruenig:  sorry, I mean, there's no boxes
[11:25] <kfasheldon> timalot> and changing the patition should not effect mbr correct - can I just format partition from disks in admin
[11:25] <bruenig> On the top it lists your windows partitions yes?
[11:25] <Subhuman> C|int, what card do you have then? is it ati or nv? cuz if itz nv > 4200 then your good to go with XGL
[11:25] <bruenig> and it has its mount point?
[11:25] <C|int> thanks Subhuman btw, 1 thing I can defanately help out, is the VMware Workstation INstalls, on ubuntu, if anyone needs my help, or wine, or Cedega, etc :)
[11:25] <RShadow> anybody else suddently experince firefox segfaulting on startup all the time?
[11:25] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: yep
[11:26] <Subhuman> ati is slighty diff but basically anything that the drivers support
[11:26] <C|int> oh... 915 gml or something, its integrated,, still hope I can have it
[11:26] <timalot> kfasheldon, thats right if u delete hda1 and create a new partition and format it, it should not delete the mbr...
[11:26] <C|int> but I do have my workstatin, which has nvidia :-)
[11:26] <bruenig> below where it says "Partition One blah blah blah" there should be a little 'box' that looks identical to it but is blank
[11:26] <Subhuman> C|int, the intel 915 gma
[11:26] <bruenig> click on that
[11:26] <kfasheldon> timalot> thanks i'll go for it !!
[11:26] <timalot> kfasheldon, i use fdisk
[11:26] <C|int> yea pretty sure :P
[11:26] <timalot> kfasheldon, i dont know about disk admin
[11:27] <Subhuman> C|int, i THINK the onboard intels work, no harm in trying, best asking at #ubuntu-xgl tho to be 100% sure
[11:27] <C|int> wish I had 1 of those hooked up systems, with 256 mb dedicated video laptops :P
[11:27] <Subhuman> those guys will kni
[11:27] <Lichte> what is this thing called ?
[11:27] <C|int> something you have to do, with enabling it after instal right ?
[11:27] <timalot> kfasheldon, wait
[11:27] <timalot> kfasheldon, just run grub-install after doing the partitioning to make sure
[11:27] <Lichte> it seems to be barfing on the fact that I have another linux on another HD in the system
[11:27] <C|int> Clint is my name btw, but ya know, have to use | , because I didnt' want to use, -
[11:27] <jason_> any body know why 'gksu -a' dosn't always ask for a password
[11:28] <C|int> hey Lichte, whats up
[11:28] <C|int> I'm a Systems Engineer, if that helps, :)
[11:28] <tony_> Hi all! can anyone tell me a simple editor with autocompletion for c++ - I am trying (g)vim but i cant seem to find a c++ dictionary/wordlist - any tips?
[11:28] <jimwhimpey> bruenig: crap, I did that and the installer crash
[11:28] <stefg> Lichte: don't trust any automatic partioning... it'll make a mess
[11:28] <jimwhimpey> crashed**
[11:28] <C|int> well, still going to college for it, but, recently commercial I was part of, been on air, and hey Subhuman, check out this work, if you guys don't mind
[11:28] <AlexC> Hey
[11:28] <Lichte> C|int: I can't get my disks partitioned
[11:28] <C|int> ->   http://www.myspace.com/clintsnet
[11:29] <bruenig> I am getting tired, You get the idea, click that change the partition number and on the left select the appropriate mount point
[11:29] <bruenig> bye all
[11:29] <Lichte> C|int: I can't get it to let me set the mount points
[11:29] <osfameron> eeek!  my external HD has suddenly decided it's a Readonly filesystem
[11:29] <osfameron> wtf?
[11:29] <Subhuman> C|int, i dont have myspace dude.
[11:29] <sri_> it is possible to get the i/p &mac address of the person who is messaging to me???(or)mail to me?How can i trace it?
[11:29] <kfasheldon> timalot> thanks, noticed that something was needed when i just looked at gnome disk part, the boot flag goes missing when i set up the new part, so i escaped grub install should work thats what i was looking for cheers
[11:29] <adi> caut cazare
[11:29] <jason_> any body know why 'gksu -a' dosn't always ask for a password
[11:30] <Subhuman> sri_, send them a file and netstat it
[11:30] <Lichte> I don't want it to do it automatically
[11:30] <C|int> well, hee I"m engineering an IT site with Adobe Macromedia Studio 8 .. *shades on* :-)
[11:30] <Subhuman> jason_, if you use sudo , 15 mins after it wont ask for a password.
[11:30] <pvh> well, my /whois shows the IP address
[11:30] <sri_> Subhuman, sorry i did nt get u
[11:30] <jason_> Subhuman, yeah i know but i 'want' it to
[11:30] <Subhuman> sri_, do you mean in IRC?
[11:30] <stefg> jason_: it remembers that you authenticated less than 10 (?) minutes ago
[11:30] <sri_> Subhuman, what is netstart ?
[11:30] <C|int> reason being, why I put ... VMware Workstation 5.5 on linux :-)
[11:30] <tony_> jason_, maybe cause it assumes the password in one session?
[11:30] <Subhuman> sri_, is this in IRC?
[11:31] <sri_> Samus_Aran, ya
[11:31] <sri_> Subhuman, or in the messenger
[11:31] <osfameron> how do I make my external HD not readonly?
[11:31] <Subhuman> sri_, if it is jus do /WHOIS USERNAME where username is the guy messaging you
[11:31] <osfameron> (as it seems to have decided to start being readonly as of this morning)
[11:31] <jason_> SO how do i force it(gksu) to ask
[11:31] <stefg> osfameron: did you fsck it recently?
[11:31] <C|int> thats just something I joined, because my best friend on myspace, I actually part of a secure peer to peer client, programmed in Delphi, and been apart of it for 3 years, or maybe more, were working on , Voice Over Internet Protocol, for the client, multimedia broadcasting, and so much more
[11:31] <sri_> Subhuman, in gaim also..?
[11:31] <Subhuman> jason_, look in man sudo
[11:31] <Lichte> why all these super complex gui tools to replace a simple fdisk ??
[11:31] <Subhuman> itz in a config file
[11:31] <osfameron> stefg: nope, don't even know what that does
[11:32] <telmich> hoi!
[11:32] <telmich> how can I install libpng3 on standard ubuntu?
[11:32] <stefg> osfameron: what filesystem does teh external hd use?
[11:32] <telmich> it offers libpng12-0, but an application needs libpng.so.3
[11:32] <C|int> hey Subhuman,, I'm going get Counter STrike Source on ubuntu :P
[11:32] <C|int> ;)
[11:32] <someusernoob> osfameron, what does the mount lint in fstab tells you? gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:33] <someusernoob> osfameron lint = line * typo
[11:33] <C|int> I recently didn't knw, how much of online gaming, fps, had effect on a person.. it nice take some fustration out sometime for fun, :-)
[11:33] <Subhuman> sri_, in gaim, send them a file, then do like a "netstat | less" and one of the "established" will be the user
[11:33] <osfameron> stefg: vfat
[11:33] <C|int> hey Lichte, what ubuntu build are you on.
[11:33] <stefg> osfameron: and it is mounted as /dev/sda1 ?
[11:34] <C|int> and you say your having problems.. with partitions mounting, ... automounting.. etc?
[11:34] <osfameron> stefg: yeah, seems to be
[11:34] <osfameron> someusernoob: nothing in /etc/fstab about it
[11:34] <tripppy> ive got a RTL8029 chipset NIC, ubuntu can't find it.
[11:34] <osfameron> but `mount` on its own says /dev/sda1 on /media/LACIE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[11:34] <tripppy> whats the modprobe command?
[11:34] <someusernoob> osfameron: sudo aptitude install pmount
[11:34] <Lichte> i can't believe this
[11:34] <C|int> whats up
[11:35] <stefg> osfameron: so i suspect there are problems with the filesystem. For safety reasons it's mounted readonly... you could check 'dmesg' if it contaims hints about that
[11:35] <Lichte> it won't let me set the mount point for my install HD, but it's forcing me to set mount points on my sapre HD!
[11:35] <C|int> Lichte: , don't trip bud, I had a really difficult time, figuring out how to configure vmware workstation, and I'm an IT Systems Engineer in making, independant , Developer hee
[11:35] <osfameron> ooo, dmesg | grep sda1 gives me 3 x FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda1)
[11:35] <stefg> see what i mean :-)
[11:36] <osfameron> that's bad then?
[11:36] <C|int> linux, and open source period can take some patience at time, and thats the fun part about somethings sometimes, is challenging yourself, to defeat the odds.. been linux user for 2004,a nd I still work with windows as well :-)
[11:36] <stefg> no, you have a dual boot system?
[11:36] <Lichte> C|int: I've been using linux since '92, I've never seen anything like this partitioner
[11:37] <C|int> ah.. I see
[11:37] <C|int> the gparted?
[11:37] <osfameron> right, fsck it is then
[11:37] <C|int> I use and manage with Acronis Disk director Suite.. Lichte
[11:37] <C|int> was a big step back in 2004, from using Symantec Partition Magic, to paragon Software, and then Acronis :-)
[11:38] <ubuntu> hello
[11:38] <Lichte> C|int: how do I bypass this to install this distro ??
[11:38] <stefg> osfameron: umount /d3ev/sda1 && fsck -t vfat /dev/sda1
[11:38] <ubuntu> this is a check
[11:38] <stefg> osfameron: umount /dev/sda1 && fsck -t vfat /dev/sda1
[11:38] <C|int> what are you trying to install
[11:38] <Lichte> C|int: is this the only install method from the livecd ?
[11:38] <C|int> and most time, I'm using custom install Lichte, and not live cd, :)
[11:39] <C|int> nope
[11:39] <timalot> Lichte, what kernel version was it back in '92?
[11:39] <C|int> you can use the alternative cd
[11:39] <Lichte> timalot: iirc, it was .98pl8
[11:39] <Lichte> or was it pl12
[11:39] <Subhuman> timalot, like not even version 1.
[11:39] <timalot> Lichte, damn
[11:39] <C|int> that give you alot more better options, especially for partitioning, and alow more power install, thats just my opinion
[11:39] <osfameron> gah, it claims to be too busy to be unmounted
[11:40] <stefg> osfameron: then close all windows and shells which might access it
[11:40] <Subhuman> C|int, the alt. install CD only allows you to install grub in an alternative location, apart from that it is basicaly identical to the live install.
[11:40] <C|int> Lichte: , I manage alot of systems, even was working with getting Mac OS X x86 , on my acer laptop, but I didn't pass some SSE2 enable option, during install, and it hanged after the apple logo, then went blue, then nothing :P
[11:40] <Subhuman> C|int, i know as i have done full installs with both, and the server.
[11:40] <Lichte> so how do I install ubuntu ?
[11:41] <C|int> well,  Subhumanm, I use Acronis Disk Director Suite, because I run more than 3 operating systems , on 1 system alone, which I could install to multiple hard drives etc..
[11:41] <stefg> ise the alternate CD
[11:41] <Lichte> I can't get past this partitioner unless I let it do auto
[11:41] <stefg> *use
[11:41] <Subhuman> Lichte, use the alternative isntall CD.
[11:41] <osfameron> stefg: did that, still claims it's busy
[11:41] <C|int> OS SElector, very nice :-)
[11:41] <osfameron> nothing in lsof
[11:41] <Lichte> Subhuman: I don't have a cdburner
[11:41] <k2> what do you see at "linux:8002"?
[11:41] <Subhuman> C|int, ive ran 5-6 OS's on one machine, and the live partitioner is better.
[11:41] <Lichte> Subhuman: it's either this or nothing
[11:41] <binfalse> I'll think about it
[11:41] <stefg> osfameron: hmmm... ok, then you're in for a reboot in recovery mode
[11:41] <C|int> I"m trying to find nice deal on.. SCO UnixWare 7.1.4.. dang ebay was charging over 1 grand :P
[11:41] <Subhuman> Lichte, well why does it lock up?
[11:41] <Lichte> Subhuman: it doesn't
[11:42] <Lichte> Subhuman: it won't let me set a mountpoint
[11:42] <sri_> prudhvi, hi
[11:42] <C|int> well Subhuman, thats good, good we don't limit are vision bud, we can work together , if you want hee :P
[11:42] <sri_> prudhvi, in gaim, send them a file, then do like a "netstat | less" and one of the "established" will be the user
[11:42] <osfameron> stefg: oh, ok.  can I get to that with a shutdown incantation?
[11:42] <Subhuman> Lichte, you selected "manually edit partiton table" yes?
[11:42] <C|int> if you want ... I'm busy alot though, but be good have open source aqaintance :)
[11:42] <Lichte> Subhuman: yes
[11:43] <Lichte> Subhuman: and then this horrific graphical app pops up
[11:43] <Subhuman> Lichte, and does it give you an error when you set it?
[11:43] <Subhuman> Lichte, yes it's gparted.
[11:43] <Lichte> Subhuman: nope
[11:43] <C|int> I got to get that wireless, and xgl going, then I be smilin.. Sub :-)
[11:43] <stefg> osfameron: not sure... but the grub boot menu (press [ESC]  to acces it) will offer that option
[11:43] <Lichte> this is the worst thing I've ever seen
[11:43] <Subhuman> C|int, ive done both, look on the ubuntu forums
[11:44] <telmich> which ubuntu release is what state (like testing, experimental, ...) and where can I read about it?
[11:44] <Flannel> telmich: they're all stable.
[11:44] <C|int> I was down, because I had installed ubuntu on my buds laptop sub, automatic wireless detectino hee... lucky Ahteros people, but I probably if I need to, just take out my wireless mini pci, and replace with compatible built in .. wireless lan hee :)
[11:44] <Subhuman> telmich, dapper is current, edgy is unstable groundhog is experimental.
[11:44] <osfameron> stefg: ah, I unplugged and replugged, it's now called sdb1 and it's happy to fsck itself
[11:44] <Flannel> telmich: well, edgy isn't stable yet.  But each "release" (once it gets it's numbers), is stable.
[11:44] <telmich> Flannel: the problem is, I need libpng.so.3, which is not in my currently installed ubuntu
[11:44] <osfameron> except it's asking which FAT I want, the first or the second...
[11:44] <telmich> Flannel: ok
[11:44] <Subhuman> C|int, you can do it with a broadcom.
[11:44] <stefg> smart *ss :-) bingo!
[11:44] <Lichte> it only wants to set mount points on hdb, not hda
[11:45] <tony_> Hi all! can anyone tell me a simple editor with autocompletionand how to get it to work for c++?
[11:45] <Lichte> and I'm installing to hdaa
[11:45] <Lichte> hda
[11:45] <Lichte> I have Gentoo no hdb
[11:45] <topa_> any ubuntu-ppc64 folk here ?
[11:45] <Subhuman> Lichte, take out hdb for the install then.
[11:45] <Lichte> s/no/on
[11:45] <Lichte> no way
[11:45] <C|int> well.. what you recommend I do right now :P, because I could never get the dang sucker working with ndiswrapper.. antho someting , he was helping me on breezy, we actually got somewhere, but then I did a dist-upgrade and lost all settings :P
[11:45] <Subhuman> and then just instal, put the hdd back, then redo grub.
[11:45] <Flannel> telmich: you can search to see if it'll be in edgy: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <topa_> I'm not able to use ubuntu-server on IBM's OpenServer
[11:45] <Subhuman> Lichte, why not?
[11:45] <Lichte> I'll just build a new gentoo box on hda
[11:45] <telmich> Flannel: ok
[11:45] <r0rz> tony_ : vim
[11:45] <Subhuman> Lichte, your only taking it out for the install, so your forcing it to use hda
[11:46] <C|int> lol Lichte
[11:46] <Flannel> telmich: er.  libpng3 is in dapper
[11:46] <siimo> is it possible to get 1440x900 resolution in ubuntu ? with ati drivers
[11:46] <C|int> darn gentoo, wasn't compatible with my acer :P
[11:46] <telmich> huch!
[11:46] <telmich> Flannel: I am somehow blind
[11:46] <Flannel> telmich: it's in universe
[11:46] <telmich> Flannel: or other way: apt-cache search did not show it
[11:46] <telmich> ahhh
[11:46] <C|int> I just need to study, Understanding the linux kernel, heck, configuring drivers, writing my own, hee :)
[11:46] <telmich> universe is not in sources.list
[11:46] <Flannel> not by default.  universe is community supported
[11:46] <telmich> Flannel: gracias
[11:47] <Subhuman> siimo, yes. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or if you got an intel then itz "sudo apt-get install 915resolution"
[11:47] <tony_> r0rz, Im trying to get dictionary files for c++ to work. do you know where i could find one for vim? and how to get it to work?
[11:47] <Flannel> !tell telmich about repositories
[11:47] <siimo> Subhuman: i have a ati radeon 9250 not intel
[11:47] <prudhvi> sri_, why do you want to know his IP ?
[11:47] <telmich> Flannel: thanks again
[11:47] <r0rz> weel I should check the main vim website, tony
[11:47] <tony_> r0rz, right now i try crlk-k but i just get a beep
[11:48] <r0rz> or you could join the #vim channel
[11:48] <r0rz> here on freenode
[11:48] <sri_> prudhvi, to know from where he is giving this mess..
[11:48] <Lichte> oh well. later all
[11:48] <tony_> r0rz, i tried that :) i found a quite helpful faq http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/C-editing-with-VIM-HOWTO.html but i still cant get my hommade dicionary working :)
[11:49] <r0rz> oh it's homemade
[11:49] <r0rz> anyway I never tried to install a dictionary in vim
[11:49] <Subhuman> siimo, in that case run "sudo nano /etc/X!!/xorg.conf", go down to the bottom, look for where all the resolutuons are speciified, just add "1440x990" into each line
[11:49] <telmich> is there a possibility of letting the user choose their keyboard layout _before_ logging in (graphical login on X)
[11:50] <siimo> Subhuman: cool thanks dude im not ready for it yet because i was asking this before going out to buy a monitor that has that native resolution - just making sure it will work but ill note that down :)
[11:50] <telmich> the problem is, the users here use many different keyboards (swiss german, german, dvorak, qwerty)
[11:50] <Flannel> telmich: during install you mean? or what?
[11:50] <ccooke> telmich: The question for a "default" keyboard layout is asked during installation
[11:50] <ccooke> telmich: after that, you can modify it on a per-user basis.
[11:53] <kakado> telmich, if you mean a terminal without X, then loadkeys [country code] 
[11:55] <kintaro> hi guys..i need advice...i want to install ubuntu server as a server on my box for our company.its AMD 64 Athlon X2 4200+ processor, 2G mem and MSI board..I want a setup like this: our developers want a windows box - xp and 2003 server for their QA test. so i plan to install vmware on it. is it posible to run 2 vmware machines [xp and win 2003]  on my ubunto server box?
[11:56] <salah> how I check if my machine have found my new dvd burner?
[11:56] <deFrysk> salah, inser a dvd might help
[11:56] <kakado> kintaro, yes
[11:56] <stefg> kintaro: why shouldn't it be? This is what vmware is designed to do
[11:56] <deFrysk> insert
[11:57] <salah> deFrysk, then nothing happends, no mather which CD
[11:57] <narfmaster> salah, you may need to edit /etc/fstab
[11:58] <salah> narfmaster, ok, but I have no clue about fstab, can you please help me fix it?
[11:58] <kintaro> ok..thanks
[12:02] <webben> I've been noticing that modal dialogues asking for the root password in kde and gnome have no border around them (they're just rectangles). I can't remember what happened when i first installed. Is this by design, or due to some misconfiguration on my part?
[12:02] <webben> (or a bug)
[12:03] <filemover> can anyone help i want to install libxine-extracodecs but it is not in the advanced package list what do i do
[12:03] <Flannel> webben: hmm.  I havent seen one in a while... but, I think thats by design.
[12:03] <webben> Flannel: that's interesting, it seemed consistent behaviour so i did wonder
[12:03] <webben> seems like an odd decision, i'd like to know the reasoning behind it if anyone knows
[12:04] <osfameron> stefg: fsck hasn't fixed it, remounted, still saying readonly
[12:05] <majtekst> hi everyone! I can't install ethernet card rtl8139 on PCII (300mhz) and IBM netvista - PIII 600mhz but it doesn't work with DHCP
[12:05] <majtekst> with static ip addres, I can ping other computer in intranet
[12:05] <Flannel> webben: to have no border?  probably because it's part of the other application or something, and not really a thing in itself.  I dont know why it would seem odd though.
[12:05] <renegade_of_funk> can someone tell me why in ubuntu my cpu fan is louder than in win , and what can i do to keep it quiet
[12:05] <stefg> osfameron: bad blocks i assume...
[12:06] <osfameron> guess.  The 2 suggestions my colleagues are mooting are
[12:06] <osfameron> a) reformat
[12:06] <osfameron> b) plug into a windows machine to see if chkdsk makes a better go at recuperating it
[12:06] <stefg> osfameron: man fsck .... there are more options to fsck than the default ones
[12:06] <ompaul> osfameron, sorry I seem to have missed the issue what is wrong?
[12:07] <webben> Flannel: I suppose I think it's odd because windows/dialogs of any sort tend to have borders (at least in desktop OSes). Dialogs are always part of another application, aren't they? Course there may be usability or aesthetic considerations that prompted this choice, I'd just be interested to know what they were. :)
[12:08] <osfameron> ompaul: my external HDD (vfat) is mounting as readonly, dmesg shows filesystem panics.  fsck (no options)  hasn't fixed
[12:08] <stephh> ?
[12:09] <[Nige] > hi all
[12:09] <stephh> hi
[12:09] <ompaul> osfameron, I see it now, your external drive thinks it is RO, okay mkdir on your local drive and cp what you can from the external direct into the local drive
[12:09] <someusernoob> hi
[12:09] <ompaul> osfameron, what size is it?
[12:09] <osfameron> ompaul: 150 Gb
[12:09] <ompaul> osfameron, do you use windows?
[12:09] <osfameron> of which 108Gb used
[12:10] <osfameron> not in general (and not on this laptop)
[12:10] <ompaul> osfameron, okay can you copy that data to the local machine?
[12:10] <osfameron> not really...
[12:11] <osfameron> I could copy most of what isn't already on the laptop (e.g. that was backed up) if I spend some time
[12:11] <telmich> Flannel: keyboard: I mean when ubuntu is started / the X-server presents the login: then the standard is to use dvorak (from xorg.conf). but I would like to have some kind of chooser to allow different layouts _before_ logging in
[12:11] <ompaul> I would be doing that right now to try prevent (further) data loss
[12:12] <osfameron> ok
[12:12] <telmich> kakado: no, loadkeys is clear, I am just not so familiar with modern desktop login mechanism like gdm/kdm
[12:12] <ompaul> osfameron, does "mount" show it as ro?
[12:12] <telmich> ccooke: so you mean there's no way to change it dynamically
[12:12] <osfameron> ompaul: no, oddly "mount" shows it as (rw)
[12:13] <ompaul> osfameron, what is it mounted as and what is its directory permission?
[12:13] <osfameron> ompaul: and in some directories I was able to touch a file (foo) and now I can't
[12:13] <osfameron> ompaul: like  drwx------  6 hakim hakim 32768 1970-01-01 01:00 /media/LACIE
[12:13] <osfameron> ?
[12:14] <stefg> osfameron: i'm nearly certain that you've got bad blocks on the disk...
[12:14] <osfameron> stefg: looks like
[12:14] <ompaul> osfameron, that is the one
[12:14] <osfameron> I'm pondering just reformatting and to hell with the data
[12:14] <ompaul> osfameron, kind of agree with stefg
[12:15] <osfameron> I have my version-control/backup strategy mapped out after rebuild
[12:15] <stefg> osfameron: man badblocks
[12:15] <ompaul> osfameron, rescue what you can
[12:15] <ccooke> telmich: no, of course I don't mean that
[12:15] <osfameron> (afk, thanks for help!)
[12:15] <ccooke> telmich: as I said, the installation system asks you for a default when you install Ubuntu. That default can be changed later.
[12:17] <ccooke> telmich: why do you want users to select a keyboard type on login? Are people really going to be changing the kayboard that often?
[12:17] <renegade_of_funk> can someone tell me why in ubuntu my cpu fan is louder than in win , and what can i do to keep it quiet
[12:18] <webben> ccooke: it's notable that Windows login allows you to select a keyboard layout
[12:18] <stefg> renegade_of_funk: what CPU?
[12:18] <lsuactiafner> renegade_of_funk, what type of CPU?
[12:18] <webben> ccooke: in fact i think i know a Polish user who actually uses that facility
[12:18] <stefg> hehe
[12:18] <renegade_of_funk> amd64 3000
[12:18] <jjford> javimellizo
[12:18] <lsuactiafner> in linux my pc run around 3C colder, the fan runs so slowly i sometimes get CPU fan warnings from the bios when booting to windows
[12:18] <stefg> !info athcool
[12:19] <webben> ccookie: presumably anybody logging into an X session _remotely_ would definitely want to be able to select  a layout
[12:19] <ubotu> athcool: tool to enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.3.11-1 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 104 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386)
[12:19] <jjford> javimellizo
[12:19] <stefg> ahh... only 32 bit
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> renegade_of_funk  apt-get install powernowd powersaved
[12:20] <ccooke> webben: good point.
[12:20] <renegade_of_funk> ok will try
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> renegade_of_funk, i dont think you want that athcool if you CPU is 64bit
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> rather follow the command i specified
[12:21] <stefg> won't be installable on a64bit system
[12:22] <lsuactiafner> but you can bet that linux is colder than windows, since linux doesnt run the CPU at full throttle like windows does
[12:22] <lsuactiafner> right now my cpu is 36 and if i open the windows it will go down to 34 without any cool cept the default fan
[12:22] <lsuactiafner> and cpu usage is 100%
[12:23] <webben> telmich, what exactly happens with Select Language from the GDM options menu? does that leave the keyboard settings as they are?
[12:23] <lsuactiafner> heh, and my cpu is overclocked 6%
[12:23] <snowblink> Does anyone know why there is an xserver-xorg-core update on Dapper?
[12:23] <webben> it's weird because it looks like selecting a layout from GDM was supposed to be implemented: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/gdm-keyboard-layout
[12:23] <Ng> snowblink: it's to fix a bug on some intel chipsets
[12:23] <ompaul> telmich, system preferences keyboard right click and put it on the panel
[12:24] <Ng> snowblink: if you click on it in the update manager it should show you the changelog
[12:24] <Ng> snowblink: (in the "Details" section at the bottom you can expand)
[12:24] <snowblink> Ng, cheers. Was just using apt-get...
[12:24] <webben> ompaul: well that isn't selecting a layout at login
[12:25] <telmich> webben: I did not see that menu
[12:25] <ompaul> webben, no but it makes it easy once logged in and it happens on the fly
[12:25] <webben> ompaul: you've got to be able to enter your username and password correctly to get there in the first place for instance ... that is it depends on the user not having any funny characters in the name or password
[12:26] <ompaul> webben, which I was about to say back to you :)
[12:26] <filemover> i am having trouble getting hold of the libxine-extracodecs can anyone help
[12:26] <RShadow> errrr.. Firefox just died.. keeps segfaulting with an "Illegal Instruction" even after complete removal and reinstallation
[12:26] <webben> :)
[12:26] <stefg> !easysource
[12:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:26] <Ng> RShadow: try moving your firefox profile out of the way too (it's in .mozilla/firefox/ in your home directory)
[12:26] <stefg> filemover: ^^^^ might help
[12:26] <ompaul> webben, what if I set up in polish and want to move to english - how does that impact the gdm
[12:27] <RShadow> Ng, ya.. just toasted that as well
[12:27] <ompaul> webben, with a strange password
[12:27] <filemover> so all i do is update my sources list stefg
[12:27] <ompaul> webben, this is a *bug* of sorts
[12:27] <webben> ompaul: seemingly so
[12:28] <stefg> filemover: yes, then apt-get update and see what goodies are installable tehn :-)
[12:28] <ompaul> now should it be against the installer passwd gdm or login or what?
[12:28] <filemover> ok
[12:28] <filemover> thnx
[12:28] <filemover> lol
[12:28] <webben> ompaul: what i can't understand, given that launchpad link i posted earlier, is why it still exists
[12:28] <webben> ompaul: sorry?
[12:28] <ompaul> webben, looking at your link - and thinking out loud at the same time
[12:29] <webben> ompaul: it's weird there are various notes e.g. on the wiki that the spec in my link was superseded, but it's not clear by what
[12:29] <webben> e.g. here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/DapperDev_2005-11-17?highlight=%28gdm%29%7C%28keyboard%29%7C%28layout%29
[12:30] <webben> ompaul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GdmKeyboardLayout?highlight=%28keyboard%29%7C%28gdm%29%7C%28layout%29 says
[12:30] <webben> it was superseded by gdm-roadmap, pimp-my-language-selector, and ue-gnome-ui
[12:31] <ompaul> webben, it is in dapper - I just checked on test box 1
[12:31] <ompaul> webben, click on option and language
[12:31] <webben> ompaul: language != keyboard layout
[12:31] <ompaul> webben, point
[12:32] <ompaul> let me test
[12:32] <ompaul> see how much it pulls
[12:34] <RShadow> Ng, ya.. looks like profile was the problem.. which sucks :( now I have to go get all my plugins back
[12:34] <Riddell> rob: are you the robert stoffers who made the kubuntu package for Dolphin?
[12:34] <Ng> RShadow: it was probably a plugin or extension that caused it. you can move over individual files into your new profile (like history, bookmarks, passwords, etc.)
[12:35] <kwarkball> Does someone know of a search tool which allows to send requests to multiple search engines like copernic can do in the windowsworld?
[12:35] <rob> Riddell, yes
[12:35] <Riddell> rob: could we try and get that into kubuntu?
[12:35] <RShadow> Ng, what I can't figure out tho was that everything was working fine, and then today .. blah.. I didn't update anything didn't change anything..
[12:35] <rob> Riddell, sounds good to me!
[12:35] <ompaul> webben, yeap, it is a bug, they kind of failed there :-/
[12:35] <Ng> RShadow: hmm, strange
[12:36] <webben> kwarkball, for an online tool, how about dogpile?
[12:36] <Riddell> rob: ah, I spot it on revu
[12:36] <Riddell> rob: I'll take a look at it
[12:36] <kwarkball> webben: i ve never heard of this. is that some sort of meta websearch engine?
[12:36] <rob> cool
[12:36] <webben> kwarkball: yeah
[12:36] <compengi> how to connect to a shell through a terminal
[12:36] <RShadow> Ng, very.. only thing I can figure out is perhaps FS didn't shut down correctly or something and something got corrupt.. very strange.. I should have looking in the .mozilla folder before I actualy toasted it tho..
[12:37] <kwarkball> webben: hm ok have an idea for a piece of software as well? i need my search history
[12:38] <webben> kwarkball: how much search history? http://www.dogpile.com/_1_2S4GTKV02I6JE5O__info.dogpl/tbar/features.htm
[12:38] <abhinay> how to queue a URL to wget while wget downloading one ?
[12:39] <webben> kwarkball, scratch that, ie only
[12:39] <papo> abhinay: just run a second wget process?
[12:39] <filemover> i have discovered information that many may seek about amorak
[12:39] <filemover> LOL
[12:39] <kwarkball> webben: ie only ;) funny isnt it?
[12:39] <usama> hi all
[12:39] <filemover> is that usama or Osama
[12:39] <abhinay> papo, i want to download it one after the other
[12:39] <webben> kwarkball, that must mean they've ceased to innovate, they have been around a while dogpile
[12:40] <usama> filemover: usama
[12:40] <usama> Firetech: not osama
[12:40] <papo> abhinay: ok, then you could make a loop or put all the urls into a file and pass that file with -i ?
[12:40] <filemover> i just hackin at ya usama
[12:40] <abhinay> is there any possiblity without using a file ?
[12:41] <webben> kwarkball: maybe use Beagle with dogpile? http://beagle-project.org/Main_Page
[12:41] <usama> filemover: np
[12:41] <kwarkball> webben: thought beagle is desktop search only? no?
[12:41] <kwarkball> webben: i ll have a look
[12:42] <papo> abhinay: do you know all the URLs befor the first wget is run?
[12:42] <martii> I want to resize NTFS partition prior to install
[12:42] <abhinay> papo, Yes
[12:42] <martii> ubuntu says minimal size is 70 GB
[12:42] <martii> why so big?
[12:43] <papo> abhinay: ok, then you could use a for-loop?
[12:43] <compengi> how to connect to a shell through the bash terminal
[12:43] <stefg> martii: this is a box which came with XP preinstalled and only recovery-CDs, right?
[12:44] <martii> stefg: yep Compaq
[12:44] <webben> kwarkball: in Gnome on Ubuntu, go to Places > Search, type in something you've recently searched for on the internet (e.g. i typed "ruby") and in addition to your desktop files it searches your web history
[12:44] <martii> stefg: should I go for manual ?
[12:44] <webben> kwarkball: but perhaps what you need is something that re-runs the same searches?
[12:45] <martii> stefg: this is compaq presario sr1000
[12:45] <stefg> The problem is that these preinstalls are made by simply throwing an image on disk... the filesystem can't be shrunk properly, and watch out not to loose the compaq diagnostic partiton
[12:46] <martii> stefg: so what can I do?
[12:46] <kwarkball> webben: hmm. yeah a rerun would be good. do you know copernic? http://www.copernic.com/en/products/agent/index.html its funky for more complex search projects
[12:46] <martii> stefg: I want to resize sda2 partition that is XP sda1 is daignostic
[12:46] <webben> kwarkball, i've heard of it, but never had to use it
[12:47] <martii> stefg: utomated resizing wants to take 70GB that is far too much I want to give linux no more than 5-7
[12:47] <stefg> martii: do have a backup application which can image the partition and resize it on restore like Ghost or Disk Director?
[12:47] <martii> stefg: I can try partimage
[12:48] <stefg> no partimage can only restore to original size
[12:48] <martii> stefg: yep true
[12:48] <martii> stefg: so I'm stuck wind windows :)
[12:48] <martii> stefg: as I don't have anything like ghost
[12:49] <stefg> martii can you paste a fdisk -l listing  to pastebin?
[12:49] <usama> when the x server of my system starts i get this dma error: http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/7312
[12:49] <martii> stefg: nope as I install in alternate mode
[12:49] <martii> stefg: livecd ends up with black screen
[12:50] <Subhuman> marti, in the alt. install it will let you specify how much u want to give ubuntu.
[12:50] <webben> kwarkball: don't know how stable it is (verson 0.50), but development is ongoing and this looks like precisely the sort of app you're looking for: http://pinot.berlios.de/index.html
[12:50] <martii> Subhuman: nope it says 70.6 GB mini
[12:51] <stefg> I see... so what's the problem now? That you can't shrink the XP partition or that the installer chooses stupid defaults?
[12:51] <martii> Subhuman: minimal
[12:51] <Subhuman> or marti, go to the "Gparted" homepage and download the live cd, and use that to resize how much you want.
[12:51] <Subhuman> martii, itz talking about how small you want the CURRENT partition to be resized too.
[12:51] <martii> Subhuman: I can try manual but I don't want to loose any data
[12:51] <kwarkball> webben: bingo this looks promising
[12:52] <webben> kwarkball: let us know if it's any good :(
[12:52] <webben> sorry, that was meant to be :)
[12:52] <martii> Subhuman: it says: New Partition size
[12:52] <martii> Subhuman: for me it means how big new partition will be
[12:52] <martii> Subhuman: not old
[12:52] <kwarkball> webben: i ll have a look at it
[12:52] <Subhuman> it means "the new size of the current partiton"
[12:53] <kwarkball> webben: thanks for the tip
[12:53] <usama> can anyone help me about that dma error?
[12:53] <salah> can I disable some stuff who are booting up? Ubuntu boots up a lot of stuff I don't even have, like Bluetooth and PCMCIA
[12:53] <webben> kwarkball, any time :)
[12:53] <Subhuman> martii, if it says minimal 70gb, that means it cant shrink the old partiton any smaller than 70gb.
[12:53] <stefg> !info sysv-rc-conf
[12:53] <ubotu> sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99-3 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[12:53] <martii> Subhuman: OK i take your point
[12:53] <Subhuman> salah, yes, look into run time configuration
[12:53] <martii> Subhuman: :) I'll give it a go
[12:53] <Subhuman> !runtime
[12:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about runtime - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:54] <Subhuman> martii, k man :D
[12:54] <salah> Subhuman, where is that?
[12:54] <usama> !dma
[12:54] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[12:54] <Subhuman> salah, theres an app to do it, 2 secs
[12:54] <salah> !mount
[12:54] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[12:54] <Subhuman> salah, search on ubuntuforums.org for "boot configuration"
[12:55] <salah> Subhuman, ok
[12:55] <pl_ice> hey, i've changed my xorg to output to my TV , it works, but now my F1 to F6 cli doesn't work ... i think it's outputing to the 2nd screen, ideas??
[12:55] <Bakemono> hello
[12:55] <pl_ice> hello :)
[12:57] <james_> hi
[12:58] <frafra> hi james_
[12:58] <james_> anyone know why i cant install kubuntu-desktop?
[12:58] <james_> i get some error about kfile or something when i try to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:58] <_Roman> I am having a problem with mplayer on Ubunutu 6.06.  When I load a video (from the shell), it starts to play but then just stutters over the last .5 of a sec. The only error that I get is Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".  Can anyone help me solve this.  I am running XGL/Compiz not sure if that will affect this.
[12:58] <frafra> james_: could you paste all the error message on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[12:58] <james_> yeah sure
[12:59] <kenzi> hi, anyone is using ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 ?
[01:00] <Linux-Hyper> !nvidia
[01:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:00] <filemover> im gonna have to make a player for ubuntu
[01:00] <kenzi> !radeon9000
[01:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about radeon9000 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:00] <james_> my kubuntu error > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17985
[01:01] <stefg> _Roman: it's an xgl problem for sure
[01:01] <frafra> james_: are you using dapper?
[01:01] <james_> eyah
[01:01] <james_> yeah*
[01:02] <frafra> try to do *sudo apt-get update* and then *sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop*
[01:02] <salah> Subhuman, I don't find anything
[01:03] <pl_ice> hey, i've changed my xorg to output to my TV , it works, but now my F1 to F6 cli doesn't work ... i think it's outputing to the 2nd screen, ideas??
[01:03] <james_> > frafra : I get the same error
[01:03] <_Roman> stefg: So is there no way to get mplayre and xgl working together?
[01:03] <Boglizk> Is it safe to remove some stuffs in /var/cache/apt/archives ? Its over 1gb
[01:03] <frafra> james_: I think that is a bug
[01:03] <stefg> no idea, don't use xgl... may #ubuntu-xgl can help
[01:03] <james_> oh
[01:04] <frafra> james_: you should report it
[01:04] <james_> ubuntu.org?
[01:04] <frafra> james_: don't worry, they are very fast to set working it
[01:04] <james_> ok
[01:04] <usama> do i have to put hdparm in system startup to enable automatic dma to my drives or not?
[01:04] <frafra> james_: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[01:04] <james_> ok, thanks
[01:05] <frafra> :)
[01:06] <asabil> hi all
[01:06] <smorsony> Anybody know if there is something like wmi on linux?
[01:06] <asabil> i just got ubuntu on my macbook
[01:06] <james_> could it be similar to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/51656 ?
[01:06] <smorsony> Hi Asabil
[01:06] <Linux-Hyper> wmi is what?\
[01:06] <asabil> and i have an error that says some stuff about incorrect locale
[01:06] <asabil> hi smorsony :)
[01:06] <smorsony> Windows Management Instrumentation
[01:07] <smorsony> It can be used to query hadrware and a lot of other classes
[01:07] <smorsony> I would like to be able to query my machine for system model info.
[01:08] <Subhuman> smorsony, "lspci"
[01:08] <smorsony> would lspci give me system model info?
[01:08] <filemover> im impressed
[01:08] <abhinay> is there any messenger wich supports webcam feature ( yahoo messenger otherside )  in ubuntu ?
[01:09] <HiP_P> iam trying to remove gnome-bittorrent but it wants to remove gnome-desktop as well is there anyway to just remove gnonme-bittorrent on it own?
[01:09] <Subhuman> HiP_P, gnome-desktop is a meta package, it is safe to remove
[01:09] <HiP_P> ah thank you
[01:09] <HiP_P> but will this effect anything else?
[01:09] <Subhuman> !info gnome-desktop
[01:09] <ubotu> Package gnome-desktop does not exist in dapper
[01:10] <Subhuman> HiP_P, a meta package contains nothing but a list of other packahes
[01:10] <Subhuman> so it will not effect the system.
[01:10] <HiP_P> thank you again
[01:11] <Wanderer> Anyone able to give some help with getting ati gl drivers working on a laptop?
[01:11] <HiP_P> this place is brilliant, come in problem sorted in five seconds flat
[01:11] <ompaul> HiP_P, only for some,
[01:11] <HiP_P> haha true
[01:11] <[Nige] > !daul monitors
[01:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about daul monitors - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:12] <Subhuman> HiP_P, not all problems are easily solved
[01:12] <Wanderer> !ati drivers
[01:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about ati drivers - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:12] <Subhuman> [Nige] , try "xinerama"
[01:12] <Subhuman> !xinerama
[01:12] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo
[01:12] <[Nige] > i know i dont like ati anymore :(
[01:12] <Ng> [Nige] : dual monitors are done with something called xinerama, although two monitors on a single nvidia card uses TwinView, if that's relevant
[01:12] <Subhuman> Wanderer, > !ati
[01:12] <stefg> so which linux user does like ati ?
[01:12] <Wanderer> Subhuman: huh?
[01:12] <Subhuman> none of them :D
[01:12] <HiP_P> well I've been answer i get answer or some information that helps towards it
[01:13] <[Nige] > stefg,  thats is interesting....
[01:13] <Subhuman> Wanderer, if you want ati drivers try "!ati"
[01:13] <Wanderer> oh, I can't change it.  it's the onboard card on my ibm laptop
[01:13] <Wanderer> !ati
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <[Nige] > my linux growth is being hampered by crappy ati drivers :(
[01:13] <Wanderer> gotcha
[01:13] <Wanderer> reading
[01:13] <Wanderer> Nvidia in both my desktops and they work great with the ubuntu/linux drivers
[01:13] <r0rz> !vaio
[01:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about vaio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:14] <r0rz> !sony laptop
[01:14] <Ng> Wanderer: www.thinkwiki.org has a huge amount of really helpful information about IBM laptops and linux, which may be worth checking out
[01:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about sony laptop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:14] <Ng> r0rz: www.linux-laptop.net has lots of installation reports for different types of laptops, if that's any help?
[01:14] <r0rz> cool thanks
[01:14] <Wanderer> Ng: read over that, I've got the ati downloaded drivers, was hoping to find the appropriate ubuntu-native drivers
[01:14] <HiP_P> sorry the package was "ubuntu-desktop" is that meta file as well?
[01:14] <stefg> yzup
[01:15] <Subhuman> HiP_P, yes.
[01:15] <Wanderer> ubuntu is great on this thing, as far as you can with linux on a thinkpad
[01:15] <Subhuman> !info ubuntu-desktop
[01:15] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.119 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:15] <Wanderer> something's f'd up with the suspend to ram though
[01:15] <Ng> Wanderer: they are in the restricted-modules package (plus a few others for support tools). the !ati page should explain
[01:15] <Ng> Wanderer: I just bought an x40 a few days ago and it seems to be working great so far. unsuspending confuses network manager, but otherwise mostly everything is working :)
[01:15] <Subhuman> Wanderer, suspend to disc/ram are both sketchy on linux, 100% fine over here (toshiba) but it seems very inconsitent
[01:15] <r0rz> Ng: a lot of sony laptops, not mine
[01:15] <r0rz> I'll keep searching.
[01:16] <Ng> r0rz: doh. the ubuntu wiki also has reports from installers, that might have something, otherwise google may
[01:16] <lz1gjd> please, could anyone help me fix this issue ? http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot3ok.png
[01:16] <Ng> r0rz: unfortuntaely the vaios have a habit of being quite proprietary and unsupported :/
[01:16] <r0rz> yep, google is _the_ way :)
[01:16] <r0rz> I know that
[01:16] <Ng> fair enough :)
[01:17] <Pupeno> is /otp or /opt ?
[01:17] <filemover> is there any way i can change the dark Blue World icon for Firefox back to the default red fox
[01:17] <HiP_P>  /opt
[01:17] <Pupeno> thanks.
[01:18] <HiP_P> thats what real player ends up in so
[01:18] <stefg> HiP_P: hold on... theres a native ubuntu package available for realplayer
[01:19] <HiP_P> umm
[01:19] <HiP_P> kinda
[01:19] <stefg> don't bypass apt for no reason
[01:19] <HiP_P> helix but it tells you get real player
[01:19] <HiP_P> *to get
[01:19] <stefg> third party repo.... see !easysource
[01:20] <asabil> anyone ?
[01:20] <asabil> what's that locale error ?
[01:20] <filemover> is there any commandline encoders for Monkeys audio in ubuntu
[01:20] <asabil> it's perl crying because of locale
[01:20] <asabil> filemover, vorbis is cool :p
[01:20] <filemover> yeah i know it is
[01:21] <filemover> but ive got a shit load of Monkeys audio files here i want to vconvert
[01:21] <filemover> to ogg if possible
[01:21] <asabil> maybe flac ?
[01:21] <asabil> mokey audio is lossless iirc
[01:21] <filemover> yeah
[01:22] <asabil> if you wanna keep it lossless convert to flac
[01:22] <HiP_P> anyways cheers again ..... back to arsing about with bittorrent
[01:22] <HiP_P> laters
[01:22] <filemover> so linux only supports flac
[01:22] <filemover> thats ok
[01:22] <filemover> i like flac
[01:22] <filemover> but its just ive got so much monkeys audio
[01:22] <asabil> filemover, can you read them with mplayer ?
[01:22] <babo> does anyone use the ekiga voip software for PC->phone calls ?
[01:23] <filemover> i dont even know if ive got mplayer yet
[01:23] <filemover> lol
[01:23] <filemover> ill take a look
[01:23] <filemover> nope
[01:23] <filemover> i installed Amarok
[01:23] <stefg> !enter
[01:23] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:23] <filemover> that seems to be working fine
[01:24] <asabil> filemover, install mplayer and tell me
[01:24] <filemover> k
[01:24] <filemover> ill give it a go
[01:24] <filemover> ill try mac first
[01:24] <filemover> in amarok
[01:24] <asabil> filemover, i've written a script time ago
[01:24] <filemover> but i have to put mplayer on here
[01:24] <asabil> to convert wma to ogg
[01:25] <asabil> it makes use of mapleyer, to convert wma to wav
[01:26] <lz1gjd> where do i get wmv v9 codecs to have support in xine/mplayer ?
[01:26] <filemover> no i cant get it to play in amarok but that doesnt worry me if i can decode it to wav ill be fine
[01:26] <tribalfuse> #python
[01:26] <stefg> !codecs > lz1gjd
[01:27] <cob> salut les gens kk1 pourrait me filer un coup de main pour configurer une carte wifi ? j'ai un soucis incomprhensible :p
[01:27] <stefg> !fr
[01:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:29] <asabil> filemover, mplayer ?
[01:30] <abhinay> i want to video chat with ms windows friends , how can i ?
[01:31] <asabil> abhinay, you've got several solutions
[01:31] <asabil> 1) try amsn
[01:31] <asabil> 2) try mercury
[01:31] <asabil> 3) use ekiga and tell him to try the beta ekiga for windows
[01:31] <kenzi> kenzi@hive:~$ glxinfo | grep rendering
[01:31] <kenzi> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:31] <kenzi> direct rendering: No
[01:31] <asabil> 4) use ekiga and tell him to use an sip or h323 client
[01:31] <kenzi> Ati radeon mobility 9000
[01:32] <kenzi> im using xorg
[01:32] <kenzi> anyone can help me ?
[01:32] <abhinay> asabil, thanku very much lol
[01:32] <papo> abhinay: or check http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/
[01:32] <asabil> ah
[01:32] <asabil> and another one abhinay : gyachE
[01:33] <papo> abhinay: did the for-loop thing work?
[01:33] <asabil> it's a fully featured buggy yim client
[01:33] <_CoB_> someone could help to solve probs with rt2500 wireless card ?
[01:33] <stefg> !wifi
[01:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[01:33] <londondave> hi I recently built a driver for an adsl modem with kernel 2.6.15-25, after the automatic upgrade to 2.6.15-26 I rebuilt the driver with the linux headers for the new kernel and the driver as symbol errors?
[01:34] <kholerabbi> Which is the best flash for firefox to install from the dapper repos?
[01:34] <abhinay> i kept all URLs in a file , & i did  wget -i file
[01:35] <papo> kholerabbi: flashplugin-nonfree IMO, though not free
[01:35] <papo> abhinay: Ah ok that's working, too
[01:35] <londondave> any ideas anyone, I did sudo depmod -a and rebooted and the modem won't work with the latest kernel?
[01:36] <kholerabbi> papo: you have to pay for it ?
[01:36] <papo> kholerabbi: No but there is not source
[01:36] <papo> code
[01:37] <papo> and it's not available for other cpu archs
[01:38] <LarsFromMars> I have a small problem: I'm using a multiscreen setup. It works very good. But when I try to start a game (UT99) i've the game on Screen 1 and the Mouse on Screen 2.
[01:38] <kholerabbi> papo: ok thanks
[01:38] <kholerabbi> papo: but its the best or offical or something?
[01:38] <papo> Khisanth: it's the one from macromedia
[01:39] <C|int> hey filemover
[01:39] <papo> err, kholerabbi I mean
[01:39] <C|int> linux can support any format you want to really support actually, you are in control over your environment :-)
[01:40] <kholerabbi> ok thankyou :)
[01:40] <C|int> thats why I installed VMware Workstation , so I could work with all my Adobe Software, Studio 8, Adobe Audition 2.0,  Creative Suite pretty much everything lol, Productino Studio ,  Maxon, and rhino3d etc
[01:40] <papo> yw
[01:40] <C|int> Production*
[01:40] <HiP_P> !bittorrent
[01:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about bittorrent - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:40] <C|int> Azureus is a real nice client :-)
[01:41] <HiP_P> cant run it
[01:41] <MenZa> no way.
[01:41] <LarsFromMars> Azureus is nice. But the Ubuntu-Paket is very buggy. You should use the nightly-beta
[01:41] <C|int> its user option though, I am part of a secure peer to peer client, filetopia, its all denctralized, and secure :-)
[01:41] <faux> hey, how can i enable /etc/shadow from a debootstrap installation?
[01:41] <tschwinge> Hello.
[01:41] <HiP_P> looking for a one that use the mainline dht
[01:41] <MenZa> ...a stable nightly?
[01:41] <MenZa> LarsFromMars: you must be kidding.
[01:41] <C|int> well, I like to use OPera sometimes, for my torrent handler, if I'm using it,
[01:41] <HiP_P> *looking for one that use the mainline dht
[01:42] <tschwinge> faux: shadowconfig on
[01:42] <kenas> when i try to access windows Network it says smb:/// invalid place
[01:42] <LarsFromMars> MenZa: I'm running nightly-beta since a few days. No crashes etc.
[01:42] <C|int> I just change the ports, etc
[01:42] <LarsFromMars> MenZa: WAYS better then the "official" packet
[01:42] <HiP_P> aint it smb:// ?
[01:42] <faux> tschwinge, thanks!
[01:42] <C|int> lars,
[01:42] <C|int> ->    www.myspace.com/clintsnet
[01:42] <C|int> check it :-)
[01:42] <C|int> you'll see my vision, what i have on there,
[01:43] <rob> rufus is nicer and less resource hungry :)
[01:43] <tschwinge> I want people to be able to use different locale environments on this Ubuntu system.  What's the proper way to configure that?
[01:43] <C|int> Clint's_Vision_Isolating_The_OS , :-)
[01:44] <lopzided> what do you add to 'glxgears' to make it show you frams per second?
[01:44] <lopzided> *frames
[01:44] <liran1> --frames
[01:44] <jrib> !glxgears
[01:44] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[01:44] <liran1> err my bad
[01:44] <C|int> hey all, any problems you think with , xgl gettin it on an Acer Aspire 3610, I just have integrated graphics, with that 915 gml, however, I want the VMware to be able to perform alot better, its doing great, and also with Cedega, and other things I"m working on, however, xgl be nice,.. I do have a workstation, that has a nvidia 128 mb, ddr , so no worries there
[01:44] <liran1> -printfps is correct
[01:44] <lopzided> where does it show fps? i still dont' see it
[01:45] <liran1> it takes some time
[01:45] <liran1> just be patient
[01:45] <gregg__> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:45] <stefg> tschwinge: each user has it's account and sets its preferred language in gdm at login time... completly straight forward
[01:45] <jkp> the ubuntu installer didnt ask me to choose the kind of install i wanted
[01:45] <lopzided> oh ok
[01:45] <jkp> is it just one standard install for all systems?
[01:45] <lopzided> thanks :)
[01:45] <HiP_P> because i cant get official bittorrent client to on ubuntu
[01:45] <papo> ok, I'm off, cya
[01:45] <lopzided> is 1198 fps good?
[01:45] <liran1> what card do you have ?
[01:45] <jkp> does it install a base system and let me customize after?
[01:45] <lopzided> liran1, an ati card, 128mb
[01:46] <lopzided> liran1, the xstacy card (can't remember exact model and everything)
[01:46] <jkp> or is it one of those distros where it just assumes you are a dektop user moving over from windows?
[01:46] <lz1gjd> nice i get 12k ;)
[01:46] <liran1> lopzided: which card exactly?
[01:46] <liran1> ahh ok
[01:46] <gregg__> lopzided: I wouldn't use glxgears for more than checking whether accel works or not
[01:46] <liran1> i think its ok
[01:46] <Kibou> glxgears is not a benchmark
[01:46] <liran1> lopzided: im getting about 2000fps
[01:46] <lopzided> liran1, how much mem on your graphics card?
[01:46] <gregg__> turn on vsync and you don't get more than, say 85 fps ;)
[01:46] <stefg> !server > jkp
[01:46] <liran1> lopzided: i have a laptop with X1400 ATI modibility readeon 128mb andcan grow up to 512 with shared ram.
[01:47] <lopzided> liran1, i also only have 256mb ram in my box :P
[01:47] <liran1> whats vsync greg?
[01:47] <lopzided> liran1, its that rambus mem that's so expensive to upgrade :P
[01:47] <liran1> hehe
[01:47] <gregg__> liran1: vertical refresh synchronization
[01:47] <jkp> its not that i want a server, but when i used debian i installed a very basic system and built up from there
[01:48] <jkp> i kinda liked the control, i just dont like loads of stuff being installed that i will never use
[01:48] <jkp> im running it in a VM for a very specific purpose
[01:48] <jkp> development work only
[01:48] <gregg__> liran1: avoids flickering
[01:48] <C|int> jkp, thats Xandros or Linspire, hee..
[01:48] <liran1> i love my xgl what can i say
[01:48] <liran1> runs smoothly
[01:48] <liran1> im also on a dual core processor so...yay :P
[01:48] <tschwinge> stefg: Uh, that easy.  Thanks.  I should just look for more obvious things, it seems.  :-)
[01:48] <jkp> C|int: another distro then?
[01:48] <stefg> jkp: if not told to do a server install  ubuntu will give you a reasonable default gnome setup..
[01:49] <jkp> i much prefer gnome if im going for an all in environ
[01:49] <gregg__> why do you hate it?
[01:50] <stefg> Ok, flamewar time in #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[01:50] <C|int> yeah, they were formal, Corel Linux, and then Xandros, its a debian based system, I even like it way better than Linspire, because you can work with it better, however, there code is like... eh.. Mac OS X.. so.. really limited to alot of what you can do, but then again.. open source, so. is hackable
[01:50] <jkp> though KDE has some k=nice apps
[01:50] <ThunderStruck> guys not the place to be having that conversation please join #ubuntu-offtopic for it
[01:50] <jkp> heh
[01:50] <ThunderStruck> ;)
[01:50] <C|int> from Canada
[01:50] <C|int> xandros is
[01:50] <C|int> and they have an office in New York, however, I like gnome, and my fluxbox, and running VMware Workstation in linux
[01:51] <C|int> its really nice to secure Windows environment, hee :-)
[01:51] <gnube> ~pastebin
[01:51] <C|int> like putting it, in pentagon,
[01:51] <krism> *learns his lesson* :)
[01:51] <C|int> hee
[01:51] <seamus_ie> hey all
[01:51] <seamus_ie> does anyone know of a prog which will tile windows for me alla ion?
[01:51] <jkp> anyway, its not really that i have an issue with
[01:51] <jkp> i just want a bare bones install that i can customize
[01:52] <ThunderStruck> C|int: continue this with jkp in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <C|int> jkp, depending, hee, I going be someday, taking a kernel, and drivers for the hardware, etc. and then the packages and gui will be entirely up to me
[01:52] <stefg> jkp: this is called a 'server'install in ubuntu-speak
[01:53] <jkp> i can do this with debian, am i trying the wrong distro?
[01:53] <jkp> stefg: ahhhh
[01:53] <jkp> ok
[01:53] <jkp> stefg: and it wont install lots of services for me by default though?
[01:53] <C|int> jkp, debian can take alot of configuration,.. I Might actually work with etch , when it gets released
[01:53] <rick_> how do i install the widget factory?
[01:53] <kwarkball> Does someone know a search tool for gnome which allows to send requests to multiple search engines like copernic can do in the windowsworld? and yeah i know about meta search engines ;)
[01:53] <pjv> what's a good program that can make flyers or pamphlets?
[01:53] <MenZa> pjv: Inkscape.
[01:53] <C|int> jkp, you can stop those wth,  bum, and what really can stop them all and edit run levels is with.. sysv-rc-conf
[01:53] <stefg> jkp, not sure... but ubuntu is not Suse, it'll be reasonable
[01:54] <jkp> heh
[01:54] <C|int> jkp, I know because I have
[01:54] <jkp> i guess i just want a reasonable dev environ an nothing else
[01:54] <jkp> but maybe the desktop will be ok
[01:54] <C|int> you have to change services as well, from K to k .. something can't remember off top
[01:54] <jkp> maybe i can strip off the things i dont want
[01:54] <C|int> 1 min
[01:54] <gregg__> jkp: lfs !!!1111one
[01:54] <jkp> gregg__: hehehe - been there, done that
[01:54] <C|int> well jkp, in theory, you can rewrite ubuntu, how you want,
[01:55] <C|int> thats what ubuntu says, so hee :-)
[01:55] <liran1> someone remind me please how to search for a tool through all packages?
[01:55] <C|int> open source, is open source, ;)
[01:55] <jkp> liran1: apt-cache ?
[01:55] <bimberi> liran1: apt-cache search whatever
[01:55] <jkp> maybe i want gentoo i dont know
[01:55] <kwarkball> liran1 apt-cache search YourToolNameHere
[01:55] <jkp> ive not tried that yet
[01:56] <jkp> but i like apt based stuff
[01:56] <jkp> it seems to make sense more than anything else
[01:56] <liran1> no apt-cache search is for packages. im talking about searching for a file within all packages
[01:56] <C|int> jkp, well, gentoo wasnt' compatible on my acer, meh
[01:56] <liran1> its a dpkg command, i just cant remember the syntax
[01:56] <kwarkball> liran1: oh dont know. check man dpkg?
[01:56] <C|int> jkp, if you want extreme power, with linux software compatible, but its a pesky thing to configure, especially on some hardware, ...
[01:56] <stefg> jkp: you might be interested that a preinstalled ubuntu-'server' (read: minimal) default image is already available at the vmware site
[01:56] <jrib> liran1: dpkg -S, but that only searches installed packages.  Use apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com if you want to search uninstalled packages too
[01:57] <faux> liran1, auto-apt can do it
[01:57] <C|int> I would say FreeBSD,  .. however I"m waiting.. getting .. SCO UnixWare 7.1.4, so I can work with that along side of ubuntu , and Windows,, I use a Disk Director Suite, to manage my systems
[01:57] <cd_rom> hi all, i installed ubuntu 5.10 in my comp yesterday and after download some updates, today it just randomly crashed
[01:57] <jkp> stefg: i would if i was runnign VMWaere
[01:57] <liran1> ahh cool
[01:57] <jkp> but im using parallels on OS X
[01:57] <liran1> thanks ill check it
[01:57] <C|int> jkp, lol I have the Mac OS X x86.. :P
[01:57] <gregg__> SCO? there are still people using it? :)
[01:57] <cd_rom> it seems that it crashed as soon as i start web brower or x-irc
[01:58] <C|int> 10.4.6, but somethign said.. had to , pass option for SSE2 enable at install, couldn't figure that out, it hung after Apple Logo loaded, and went to blue screen, and stopped
[01:58] <cd_rom> or just click on update message box in the task bar
[01:58] <jkp> C|int: it rocks
[01:58] <jkp> im running 3 os's this second
[01:58] <stefg> jkp: Didn't i read you mentioning this? Maybe i should rather take less of these funy colored pills :-)
[01:58] <C|int> jkp, I can do as well, I built, VMware Workstation 5.0, and then 5.5 into linux system,
[01:58] <cd_rom> and i dual boot with windown xp
[01:58] <cd_rom> so any advice?
[01:58] <C|int> yes gregg
[01:58] <cd_rom> cause im very frustrating
[01:58] <usuario> ulaaaaaa
[01:58] <jkp> ok, i think im gonna scrap this and do the server install
[01:58] <C|int> whats up cd-rom
[01:59] <C|int> jkp
[01:59] <jkp> does the server install have X-org?
[01:59] <stefg> no
[01:59] <C|int> you want to take control of all your services, scripts etc.. run levels?
[01:59] <stefg> not by deafualt
[01:59] <cd_rom> C|int: my ubuntu 5.10 just randomly crashed
[01:59] <jkp> C|int: yes
[01:59] <jkp> stefg: hard to get on after the fact?
[01:59] <C|int> okay will just be patient, and I will show you how lol
[01:59] <jkp> well, i know how runlevels work :) and i know how to do it manually
[01:59] <cd_rom> it seems that it crashed as soon as i start web browser or x-irc
[01:59] <C|int> it was actually something that was written, for controlling the debian system,
[01:59] <jkp> i dont know the ubuntu way :)
[01:59] <londondave> anyone using the new kernel 2.6.15-26 with the sagem fast 800 modem?
[02:00] <kwarkball> cd_rom: if you ve set it up yesteray and didnt put too much time into it yet why not reinstall it?
[02:00] <C|int> ah
[02:00] <abhinay> how to install X development libraries ...?
[02:00] <stefg> jkp: apt-get it... no prob. it's just not set up /by default/... thus the name /server/
[02:00] <C|int> well jkp, I will show you the IT way
[02:00] <C|int> :-)
[02:00] <jkp> stefg: kk
[02:00] <C|int> 1 sec bud,
[02:00] <jkp> firstly though i need to see if this distro does what i want
[02:00] <jkp> which is to get directfb working
[02:00] <cd_rom> kwarkball: i spent the whole day to set up the internet => install the driver
[02:01] <kwarkball> cd_rom: what kind of internet connection do you have?
[02:01] <cd_rom> and i doubt it cause i installed suse 10.1 before it did crash but less frequently
[02:01] <C|int> this is somthing, that all users can use, and put to use, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[02:01] <cd_rom> only centos 4.3 is not crashed at all
[02:01] <cd_rom> i dual boot with windoze xp
[02:02] <kwarkball> cd_rom: yeah me too. no crash yet with ubuntu
[02:02] <C|int> SUSE is not even a system worth it to me, just as slow as ever anyways :-)
[02:02] <kwarkball> cd_rom: hardware errors maybe?
[02:02] <jkp> C|int: looks handy
[02:02] <cd_rom> 5.10? kwarkball
[02:02] <C|int> jkp, it is..
[02:02] <jkp> looks liek chkconfig on redhat
[02:02] <kwarkball> cd_rom: no the recent 6.06
[02:02] <cd_rom> kwarkball: i thought of that but window runs just fine
[02:02] <sledmouth> cd_rom u should test your rams
[02:02] <C|int> all you really have to do, is if you most want to get the source code for ubuntu, you can rewrite the system how you see fit, for yourself, and friends to use, whatever you want :-)
[02:03] <cd_rom> sledmouth: i read one thread on the forum but unlikely
[02:03] <C|int> thats with most defanately all of open source systems, hee
[02:03] <C|int> brb.. turning on AC
[02:03] <jkp> hmmm
[02:03] <jkp> why is apt-cache turning up nothing for directfb?
[02:03] <sledmouth> u won't know til u test - what does it do when it crashes?
[02:03] <cd_rom> does ubuntu 5.10 got any bug with seagate sata hard drive?
[02:04] <cd_rom> sledmouth: the whole system just freeze
[02:04] <londondave> anyone know why an updated kernel won't work with a modem driver?
[02:04] <cd_rom> and all i got to do is hold the power button
[02:04] <cd_rom> experience fews this morning
[02:04] <cd_rom> ah
[02:04] <stefg> !info libdirectfb-bin
[02:04] <ubotu> libdirectfb-bin: binaries for libdirectfb. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 120 kB
[02:04] <wjp_> hi all - have just installed latest ubuntu and love it - have one issue though
[02:04] <cd_rom> last night, i used ubuntu for the whole night but it didn't crash for once
[02:04] <C|int> hey jkp, .. take a look at that bud, :-)
[02:05] <kwarkball> wjp_: which is?
[02:05] <albacker> guys can someone give me the url of the iso of the latest UBUNTU version ?
[02:05] <WarOfAttrition> londondave: because the driver is kernel specific?
[02:05] <cd_rom> i doubt that because of the update that i donwloaded
[02:05] <wjp_> I show 2 smb (windows drive mounts) that show on desktop
[02:05] <jkp> stefg: yeah, i can see it on the website  but not in apt-cache
[02:05] <ThunderStruck> albacker: ubuntu.com
[02:05] <jrib> albacker: ubuntu.com click on download
[02:05] <wjp_> how do i access them from applications
[02:05] <kwarkball> albacker too easy. you know google dont you?
[02:05] <stefg> !repos > jkb
[02:05] <stefg> !repos > jkp
[02:05] <jkp> stefg: do i need to add something to my sources?
[02:05] <kwarkball> albacker:  ;)
[02:05] <albacker> :)
[02:05] <C|int> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:05] <albacker> k.
[02:05] <cd_rom> albacker: you are looking for beta testing of ubuntu?
[02:05] <albacker> thnx alll
[02:05] <stefg> yup, check ubotus pm
[02:05] <wjp_> I usually use smb4k but that is flaky for me at the moment
[02:06] <ThunderStruck> cd_rom: there is no ubuntu beta
[02:06] <benguri> um. am i insane to install Dapper on a Lenovo 3000 C100? 1.5 Celeron and 256 Ram.....
[02:06] <albacker> cd_rom, i was thinking getting dapper drake, but my friend told me edge is better. but i think i shouldnt use unstable/testing versions
[02:06] <C|int> nope
[02:06] <MenZa> benguri: not at all.
[02:06] <cd_rom> albacker: cool
[02:06] <londondave> WarOfAttrition: I downloaded the headers for the new kernel, rebuilt the driver and installed all ok, just won't work-symbol errors?
[02:06] <ThunderStruck> albacker: edgy is no better than dapper dapper is working
[02:06] <cd_rom> albacker: i just order ubuntu 6.06
[02:06] <benguri> i've been running it fine on my desktop which is way more spec....just wondered. Thanks MenZa
[02:06] <ThunderStruck> edgy not really working
[02:06] <C|int> I'm actually going to change, my built in wireless lan, to an Atheros, or whatever else, just removing it, its simple. hee, the dang mini pci > :-)
[02:06] <albacker> ThunderStruck, :) ok.. ill probably use dapper.
[02:06] <benguri> though I understand there are some issues with WPA?
[02:07] <SimzI> why doesn't this open the file in text editor: gedit /Desktop/wordpress/wp-config-sample.php
[02:07] <SimzI> ?????/
[02:07] <MenZa> benguri: if it's dodgy, use XFCE.
[02:07] <MenZa> Or fluxbox.
[02:07] <Subhuman> albacker, no point using edgy atm really, get dapper.
[02:07] <wjp_> anyone can help with mounting smb drives in windows xp ? or tell me where the mount point is when mounted on desktop ?
[02:07] <fred_> slt
[02:07] <Subhuman> albacker, talk to the guys at #ubuntu+! to get an idea of edgy progress.
[02:07] <albacker> cd_rom, i ordered 6.06 from shipit too. but my friend is coming in 2 days and he has a 1mbpersecond connection where he is. and told me he can download 700megs for ap. 15minutes so its worth telling him to download it.
[02:07] <jkp> cool
[02:07] <cd_rom> albacker: lol
[02:07] <SimzI> why doesn't this open the file in text editor: gedit /Desktop/wordpress/wp-config-sample.php
[02:08] <MenZa> SimzI: it should
[02:08] <C|int> people think working and managing with laptops, you got to be in a clean room. well theoritically yes, but just have air purifier and be careful :-)
[02:08] <cd_rom> albacker: that's cool
[02:08] <SimzI> cannot open display: (null)
[02:08] <kwarkball> SimzI: checked permissions?
[02:08] <MenZa> SimzI: why don't you use WordPress' interface for it?
[02:08] <benguri> Simzl ~/
[02:08] <WarOfAttrition> londondave: you're better off getting a prebuilt driver from where you got the last one, updated for the kernel
[02:08] <SimzI> Thoought you had to edit it on your computer then upload it?
[02:08] <albacker> cd_rom, ill probably get a kubuntu version while hes there.. altho' i love gnome ;)
[02:08] <Subhuman> C|int, noone thinks that, ive opened up laptops on my carpet before with no issues.
[02:08] <C|int> albacker: , you might want to do Aternative, CD, thats nice 1 too :-)
[02:08] <MenZa> SimzI: no, just follow the link on the index.php
[02:08] <C|int> lol Subhuman
[02:09] <MenZa> 2 click setup
[02:09] <C|int> well, more power to you :-)
[02:09] <Subhuman> C|int, when my sisters AC plug snapped off inside, i jus ripped it open and soldered it back on.
[02:09] <C|int> hee
[02:09] <C|int> yep :)
[02:09] <albacker> C|int, what does it have mroe
[02:09] <benguri> how do i enable WPA connection...only seems to have WEP for default and I *amnot* going to downgrade my network ;)
[02:09] <C|int> you can do anything you put your midn too, hee I just havn't replaced my mini pci wireless ,
[02:09] <jkp> i always forget this...if im in gnome and i want to drop to the terminal, how do i do it?
[02:09] <londondave> WarOfAttrition: it's the ueagle-atm driver that comes as source code, it's working perfectly with this kernel 2.6.15-25, that's what's so strange
[02:09] <albacker> C|int, i dont ahve wireless tho' or things like it.
[02:09] <jkp> s/gnome/X/
[02:10] <C|int> albacker: , you could get a pcmcia wireless card
[02:10] <Subhuman> benguri, you need to get "wpa_supplicant"
[02:10] <Subhuman> !wpa
[02:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[02:10] <albacker> C|int, here are no wireless :)
[02:10] <C|int> bingo, if you got laptop that is, if you got a workstation.. pcmcia pci
[02:10] <albacker> i mean there are wireless on some centers but not in the whole city.
[02:10] <benguri> why thanks! :)
[02:10] <ThunderStruck> jkp: ctrl+alt+F1 or applicationd>accesories>terminal
[02:10] <WarOfAttrition> londondave: you would have to ask the developers
[02:10] <C|int> hee, I hi jacked ex place where I live, cable company, modem lines hee :-)
[02:10] <jkp> ThunderStruck: thanks, and to get back?
[02:10] <ThunderStruck> jkp: ctrl+alt+f7
[02:11] <C|int> flashed cable gateway with firmware, and other tools :-)
[02:11] <C|int> but thats month ago, adn I just moved,, hee they were onto me anyways :-)
[02:11] <wjp_> when windows drives are linked and "mounted" by nautilus and shown on desktop how do you point to them in a app like amorak ?
[02:11] <jkp> hello
[02:11] <londondave> WarOfAttrition: I think thats my next step
[02:11] <ThunderStruck> jkp: no need to drop to a tty for normal use though just open a terminal
[02:11] <C|int> well guys, I got VMware to build into my system, and alot of other work to do with Cedega, and etc..
[02:11] <jkp> ThunderStruck: i need fb access
[02:12] <ThunderStruck> ah
[02:12] <cd_rom> later albacker
[02:12] <cd_rom> i boot back to ubuntu once more
[02:12] <cd_rom> if not then i just gonna use windoze xp instead for now
[02:12] <cd_rom> :)
[02:12] <albacker> later cd_rom
[02:12] <cd_rom> no i meant :( <- this face
[02:12] <C|int> cd_rom,
[02:12] <cd_rom> the first is the wrong one
[02:12] <C|int> why not even try Windows Vista.. spy system :-)
[02:12] <albacker> ahah
[02:13] <albacker> cd_rom, why booting to ubuntu and windows.. ?
[02:13] <albacker> any problem ?
[02:13] <C|int> heck, you can even run it for 15 day trial you want too, or.. if you can find patch or hack it yourself.. hee :-)
[02:13] <cd_rom> albacker: i dual boot and ubuntu 5.10 randomly crashed
[02:13] <cd_rom> this morning, i could't make it to firefox
[02:13] <cd_rom> last night, it was fine
[02:13] <C|int> Microsoft gold partners, developers.. hee, get Corporate like volumes all the time, :-)
[02:13] <C|int> cd_ROm
[02:13] <C|int> Opera ;)
[02:13] <albacker> ohh :( i have 5.10 to0 and it have never crashed [but i dual boot too, for photoshop and dreamweaer]  :)
[02:14] <albacker> cd_rom, just make a back up of your ~/ and than re-install or just stay in windows til 6.06 arrives :)
[02:14] <C|int> cd_ROm. want to run Windows inside linux?
[02:14] <cd_rom> oh man, it said that i will receive the cd in 4-6 weeks
[02:14] <cd_rom> XD
[02:14] <cd_rom> i got broadband 1mb but capped
[02:14] <cd_rom> how sucks
[02:15] <C|int> you can totally isolate it, with virtualization, and secure the entire system, and its more secure than any stand alone windows environment out there
[02:15] <krism> cd_rom where do you live?
[02:15] <C|int> cd_rom, you in IL? I'll mail you a brand new, 6.06 cd
[02:15] <cd_rom> krism: uk, wanadoo if u r going to ask
[02:15] <cd_rom> who is my isp provider
[02:15] <C|int> I mean, you in USA
[02:16] <krism> cd_rom : ahh.. just wondering about the cap. :)
[02:16] <E_Jackyou_Later> hi, can one run dapper from a 1gb usb stick?
[02:16] <C|int> cd_ROM
[02:16] <albacker> C|int, you mean Vmware ?
[02:16] <C|int> do you want to know how to flash yoru ISP servers
[02:16] <cd_rom> yes C|int
[02:16] <cd_rom> ?
[02:16] <Dimensions> lol
[02:16] <albacker> i want one too i want one too :P
[02:16] <C|int> I confidently, hacked cable line before man
[02:16] <cd_rom> jee, lol
[02:16] <cd_rom> seriously
[02:16] <C|int> I moved though recently, dad didn't want to live in apartment, or work for apartment complex
[02:16] <krism> clint: dangerous in the US.
[02:17] <C|int> yeah, I'm taking Systems Engineering, and supposely, Network Specialist. hee
[02:17] <cd_rom> lol
[02:17] <krism> :p
[02:18] <albacker> C|int, is l33y hax0r :P
[02:19] <cd_rom> well, i do it now
[02:19] <krism> anybody know of a way to move an xwindow between xsessions?
[02:19] <albacker> see FBI caught him :P
[02:19] <krism> i have 3 X sessions, one on each monitor. i'd use xinerama, but that kills opengl.
[02:19] <ThunderStruck> albacker: stay on topic in here please
[02:19] <krism> ThunderStruck is the FBI? ;)
[02:20] <E_Jackyou_Later> does some here know of a way to run ubuntu from usb pen?
[02:20] <dyclops> yes
[02:21] <dyclops> E_Jackyou_Later, search the forums
[02:21] <E_Jackyou_Later> dyclops: ok, thanks
[02:21] <dyclops> E_Jackyou_Later, I have done it
[02:21] <dyclops> It's quite simple
[02:22] <amee2k> hi all
[02:22] <jkp> stefg: how do i do a server install from the live cd?
[02:22] <E_Jackyou_Later> dyclops: cool! this is a way to distribute ubuntu easily and quickly.
[02:22] <amee2k> what can i use to view network load im MB/s per interface?
[02:22] <E_Jackyou_Later> well, to show it to people.
[02:23] <cd_rom> i just don't believe this
[02:23] <cd_rom> im in ubuntu now
[02:23] <WarOfAttrition> believe it, it's real
[02:23] <bimberi> jkp: desktop only i'm afraid
[02:23] <jkp> noooooooo
[02:23] <jkp> so i need a new disk?
[02:23] <dyclops> E_Jackyou_Later, especially if you go to Thailand and pickup usb drives for nothing (and I mean nothing)
[02:23] <bimberi> jkp: you could uninstall the gui packages
[02:23] <jkp> goddam it
[02:24] <bimberi> jkp: otherwise it's the altnerate cd you need
[02:24] <E_Jackyou_Later> dyclops: nothing? I just got a 1gb stick for 21 incl shipping
[02:24] <E_Jackyou_Later> but a travel to Thailand is expensive.
[02:25] <dyclops> I paid ~17 AUD for 1gig over there
[02:25] <dyclops> And, AUD = better then your pound !!!
[02:25] <E_Jackyou_Later> pound?
[02:25] <WarOfAttrition> I paid near $60USD, well no I didn't, but that's what it costs
[02:26] <HiP_P> is the any bit torrent clients for Linux that support the mainline DHT?
[02:26] <dyclops> Sorry, wrong symbol ;-] 
[02:26] <WarOfAttrition> I got a cheap 256mb one for $20 - that's all I needed
[02:27] <kOpter> Yello. Is there a way to resizes png's via the commandline?
[02:27] <Nilsy> kOpter, Im sure there is
[02:27] <Lobster> very helpfully, Nilsy ;P
[02:28] <Nilsy> look at gimo
[02:28] <dyclops> I have an external 200gig USB drive. It's my production system. Beats a laptop. Lug it around, boot from USB and look at that
[02:28] <kOpter> Can you give me a hint as to which program to use :)?
[02:28] <Nilsy> gimp even
[02:28] <jrib> kOpter: imagemagick's convert
[02:28] <Nilsy> I used to have some script that used gimp to convert stuff
[02:28] <ddonky> is there an easy way to see if I have sshd running? shouldn't it come up with 'ps -A'?
[02:28] <WarOfAttrition> I'd still prefer a laptop
[02:30] <|kY> how to connect to my bouncer via xchat ?
[02:30] <jrib> ddonky: yes it should
[02:30] <HiP_P> because i cant find one anyway
[02:30] <kyncani> ddonky: yep, and nmap and ssh to see opened ports on distant hosts
[02:30] <WarOfAttrition> aloha
[02:30] <|kY> how can i add an bnc server to xchat ?
[02:30] <|kY> with pw and all stuffs
[02:31] <ddonky> jrib - i thought so, is there a gui way to turn it on? Fedora had a menu item called 'Services' where I could turn on diferent things like smbd and ssh.
[02:31] <rob> umm, just install one on the host you want to bnc on
[02:31] <|kY> .. i got all data
[02:31] <jrib> ddonky: did you install opennssh-server?
[02:31] <|kY> but there's no "Identd" field or something like this like mirc
[02:32] <|kY> and i dont know where to set the port
[02:32] <|kY> ip :port
[02:32] <|kY> doesnt work
[02:32] <|kY> ip:port too
[02:32] <ThunderStruck> |kY: chat?
[02:32] <|kY> ???
[02:32] <ddonky> jrib - not yet. will it be enabled automatically after install?
[02:32] <abhinay> is it possible to install gaim-vv with apt-get , if it is , hw can i ?
[02:32] <|kY> mhh ?
[02:32] <ThunderStruck> |kY: what are you trying to set port in?
[02:33] <ThunderStruck> abhinay: no
[02:33] <|kY> Serverlist -> Add Network -> Add Server
[02:33] <|kY> and then ip :port
[02:33] <ThunderStruck> abhinay: rumor has it they stopped building it for time being
[02:33] <jrib> ddonky: yes, and it should start on boot also.  A gui way to manage services is 'bum' which is in the universe repository, by the way
[02:33] <|kY> and ip:port tryd
[02:33] <|kY> nothing works
[02:33] <ddonky> jrib - thanks
[02:34] <|kY> ThunderStruck
[02:35] <Gu3ssWho>  Hello
[02:36] <|kY> help pls
[02:36] <|kY> :|
[02:36] <Gu3ssWho> I have a Centrino Duo notebook and I'm thinkink of trying ubuntu on it
[02:37] <Gu3ssWho> Does Ubuntu work good with Centrino Duo notebooks?
[02:37] <Mempf> i dont see why it would not
[02:37] <Gu3ssWho> Anything special I should think about before installing ?
[02:38] <Mempf> try the live cd
[02:38] <ddonky> I think about Jaime Pressly before I install anything.
[02:41] <SurfnKid> she's mine
[02:41] <Gu3ssWho> ddonky: good advice :p
[02:41] <Storkme> how come on ubuntu i can't play more then one sound at once? like when i have a music player on and i put a game on, only the music player is playing
[02:41] <richard> greetings, fellow users
[02:42] <richard> Storkme: for me it works with xmms
[02:42] <richard> just tried out and it worked
[02:42] <Drakeson> how can I enable cgi-bin for userdir in apache2
[02:43] <Storkme> wtfwtf
[02:43] <Storkme> it's a hax
[02:43] <Storkme> no wai
[02:43] <richard> Storkme: it probably has something to do with alsa or oss or whatever
[02:43] <Storkme> maybe because the game uses oss?
[02:43] <richard> heh
[02:44] <rpedro> Storkme: go to System >> Preferences >> Multimedia Systems Selector , and choose both options ALSA , maybe that will fix it if not I don't know
[02:44] <filemover> anyone know the address of the repository for mplayer
[02:44] <Storkme> rpedro, the game doesn't work with alsa
[02:44] <filemover> :(
[02:45] <narfmaster> filemover, you need multiverse enabled
[02:45] <jrib> filemover: it's in multiverse
[02:45] <filemover> ok
[02:46] <filemover> i think ive uncommented the sources list file already
[02:46] <kintaro> hi guys...my display did get the 1400x1050 display..my display is 915GM chipset intel..how to work on it?
[02:46] <jrib> filemover: multiverse isn't commented, it's not there at all.  You need to add it yourself
[02:46] <filemover> ok
[02:46] <jrib> !multiverse > filemover
[02:46] <filemover> i see!
[02:46] <filemover> !multiverse
[02:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:47] <ompaul> !fixres > kintaro
[02:47] <fyrestrtr> kintaro: install 915resolution package from repositories
[02:47] <kintaro> thanks
[02:47] <Gu3ssWho> I go to www.ubuntu.com/download and click on the mirrors, but none of them are named something with "live" (as in Live CD), am I looking in the wrong place or ?
[02:47] <Gu3ssWho> (well I haven't checked ALL mirrors yet)
[02:47] <fyrestrtr> Gu3ssWho: the 'Desktop CD' is the new live cd.
[02:47] <jrib> Gu3ssWho: the regular cd is both the live cd and the install cd, just don't get the 'alternate'
[02:48] <Gu3ssWho> Ah, thanx
[02:48] <kintaro> ops..ompaul fyrestrtr..its 945 chipset
[02:48] <Zyclop> what exactly is happening during bootup when it says "configuring network interfaces"?
[02:48] <ThunderStruck> Zyclop: trying to configure network card
[02:48] <void^> depends on your /etc/network/interfaces
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> Zyclop: probably fetching a dhcp address
[02:48] <Gu3ssWho> jrib: may I ask what the 'alternate' is (just out of curiousity, if you have a quick answer)
[02:49] <jrib> Gu3ssWho: uses the text based installer
[02:49] <Zyclop> yes, but wich script is it running?
[02:49] <reiki> alternate install?
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> Gu3ssWho: alternate install cd, for customized installations, etc.
[02:49] <ompaul> kintaro, the info I got the bot to tell you is agnostic of chipset
[02:49] <abhinay> i hv tried installing gaim-vv with  ./configure ,  it is saying  error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check , wot went wrong ?
[02:49] <ukplum> hi could some help me with setting up a path to kernel sources?
[02:49] <Cald> hello
[02:49] <kintaro> ompaul..ok thanks..
[02:49] <jrib> abhinay: have you installed build-essential?
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: did you install build-essential ?
[02:49] <lz1gjd> how do i optimize ubuntu for my architecture ? is i386 and amd64 the only supported pc archs ?
[02:50] <ompaul> lz1gjd, what arch have you got?
[02:50] <fyrestrtr> lz1gjd: there is 386, 686, amd64 and powerpc.
[02:50] <ompaul> and sparc
[02:50] <Cald> i'm trying to install a rpm, "rpm -i file.rpm", but i have an anwser failed dependencies, while dependencies are present on the system, someone know why plz ?
[02:50] <lz1gjd> athlon64, would like to use 686
[02:50] <abhinay> jrib, no
[02:50] <jrib> Cald: what is it an rpm for?
[02:50] <Cald> its dosemu
[02:50] <jrib> abhinay: you should :)
[02:50] <abhinay> jrib, installing now with apt-get
[02:51] <jrib> !info dosemu
[02:51] <ubotu> dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-3build1 (dapper), package size 877 kB, installed size 2024 kB
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> Cald: install it from the repos
[02:51] <ompaul> Cald, we have that
[02:51] <jrib> Cald: enable multiverse and use apt to install dosemu
[02:51] <ompaul> !multiverse > Cald
[02:51] <Cald> ok thx
[02:51] <edju> The ***i386.iso is actually for 686??
[02:51] <reiki> ok I think I've discovered something... that I do not use all these extra buttons on my keyboard and I should just get a regular keyboard. Although.... cordless is nice but I never move it anyways
[02:52] <Hexidigital_> i'm trying to run a .php script, but it opens Bluefish everytime... any suggestions?
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> edju: its for all non-64 and non-powerc or spac based architectures. Later, you can just install the 686 kernel or compile your own if you wish.
[02:52] <Zyclop> Where are the init scripts?
[02:52] <ompaul> edju, yes, and afterward you can choose a more suitable kernel (k7 or whatever 686)
[02:52] <snorre> I have this partial source code driver that I'm having issues getting to work with Ubuntu 6.06 Server. Anyone care to help me out?
[02:52] <jrib> Zyclop: /etc/init.d/
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> Hexidigital_: you want to run it in the browser or the terminal?
[02:52] <Zyclop> thx
[02:52] <reiki> Hexidigital_, run php script?  open it in your browser
[02:52] <Hexidigital_> fyrestrtr::  browser
[02:53] <lz1gjd> if i install the i686 kernel will i haev to reinstall all other packages, or they are compatable
[02:53] <Hexidigital_> reiki::  it shows me the source code
[02:53] <ukplum> hi could some help me with setting up a path to kernel sources so i can compile ndiswrapper
[02:53] <satempler> Hexidigital_: you need apache and php apache mod
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> Hexidigital_: install apache and the appropriate module for your php version.
[02:53] <reiki> Hexidigital_, you have apache installed?
[02:53] <reiki> ok well I was on the right track :)
[02:53] <Hexidigital_> reiki::  yes, apache...  no php mod though...
[02:53] <reiki> need to install php
[02:53] <Hexidigital_> thx satempler
[02:53] <satempler> np
[02:53] <reiki> you need a php interpreter in there as well
[02:54] <MenZa> xampp ftw.
[02:54] <edju> kernels provided by ubuntu are patched, are they?  not vanilla from kernel.org?
[02:54] <snorre> More information here: http://pastebin.ca/86909
[02:54] <satempler> edju yes
[02:54] <satempler> they are
[02:54] <lz1gjd> if i install the i686 kernel will i need to reinstall all other packages, or they are compatable
[02:54] <satempler> all distros have a patched kernel
[02:55] <darkowl> hello
[02:55] <darkowl> i have a question...
[02:55] <victor__> oi
[02:55] <satempler> lz1gjd: you are fine if you use the i686 kernel
[02:55] <Hexidigital_> satempler, reiki:: any ideas for an interpereter?
[02:55] <victor__> ???
[02:55] <lz1gjd> ic, thx, will do it right away, i guess i will have to recompile fglrx though
[02:55] <darkowl> Can I burn my hdd install to a cd so it makes a live cd ?
[02:55] <satempler> Hexidigital_: open synaptic and do a search for apache php
[02:56] <Hexidigital_> good deal, thx
[02:56] <satempler> np
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> darkowl: no, its not that simple.
[02:56] <reiki> Hexidigital_, just install php from repos and it'll take care of everything
[02:56] <Hexidigital_> thx reiki & satempler
 but how can I make ubuntu live cd with my own programs,documents...
[02:57] <liran1> what is stored in /dev/sda1 bs=512 is the mbr, not the partitions information. right?
[02:57] <Zyclop> darkowl: for Knoppix try this: http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Knoppix_Remastering_Howto
[02:57] <reiki> is there an EASY way to get the programmable buttons on my Logitech Cordless Desktop LX500 keyboard doing something useful? Or do I have to research and edit several files?
[02:57] <darkowl> But i want to make ubuntu
[02:57] <Storkme> what is esd ;\ ?
[02:57] <satempler> lz1gjd: any time you have a kernel module such as fglrx you will need to recompile it for the new version
[02:57] <hyperstream> hmm why cant i run xsane as a user to get my brother DCP - 115c working... i have to run it as root in a terminal. im in the 'scanner' group as well
[02:58] <fyrestrtr> reiki: the media buttons?
[02:58] <hyperstream> !scanner
[02:58] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[02:58] <lz1gjd> hyperstream: thx
[02:58] <darkowl> I want to make ubuntu live cd wth some preinstalled programs (flash,java,codecs,my documents...
[02:58] <liran1> Storkme: relates to the sound system.
[02:58] <reiki> fyrestrtr, well... the buttons in general. The email one opens evolution which I don't use... a couple of them do nothing at all. stuff like that
[02:58] <Storkme> liran1, yeah but what does it do?
[02:58] <Gu3ssWho> Does the Ubuntu DVD release also work as a 'Live CD' ?
[02:59] <Alexander> rednax  !!!!!!!!!!!
[02:59] <liran1> Storkme: its a sound deamon, like alsa or oss. have fun: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/whitepapers/esd/
[02:59] <rednax> yep?
[02:59] <reiki> propane truck is here... back in a bit
[02:59] <Alexander> Gu3ssWho theres a live and install cd both included
[02:59] <Alexander> reiki hope it blows u up
[02:59] <narfmaster> Gu3ssWho, yes DVD is live and other types of installers
[02:59] <chikosanchez> Hello
[02:59] <Gorlist> is their a way to install through the live cd but using text installer like the server version?
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> reiki: well I don't know of an easy way to do it, the easiest way I know is to get the media keys working.
[02:59] <hyperstream> !samba
[02:59] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:00] <Zyclop> darkowl: I think I have some link on that topic somewhere...
[03:00] <rusher> HOW DO I LOGIN MY UBUNTU SERVER DOMAIN AFTER INSTALLING IT
[03:00] <Alexander> Gorlist that doesnt work
[03:00] <Gorlist> ok,
 Please look
[03:00] <SonicChao> !caps > rusher
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> rusher: fix your caps lock key first.
[03:00] <rusher> sorry lol
[03:00] <snoops> rusher login how? - through a network or what?
[03:00] <chikosanchez> somebody knows how to fix it? "failed to initialize HAL!"
[03:00] <rusher> throught network
[03:00] <rusher> i want to login my server from my client
[03:01] <rusher> net join is not working
[03:01] <Storkme> how come on ubuntu i can't play more then one sound at once? like when i have a music player on and i put a game on, only the music player is playing? the music player is alsa, and the game is oss
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> rusher: ssh username@server's ip address
[03:01] <Stu> Hi I have burnt ubuntu 6.06 desktop to a disk where can I get a disk label image so  can print it on the disk.
[03:01] <rusher> thats is ssh
[03:01] <reiki> fyrestrtr, if I press the "Media" key... it does nothing at all. Volume up and down work and the search button works, but lots of them don't work at all or they open things I don't use
[03:01] <rusher> can i login a domain like windows clients do to windows server
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> Storkme: your sound card doesn't support simultaneous streams.
[03:01] <Storkme> fyrestrtr, it's onboard
[03:02] <Gu3ssWho> Okay I guess it's just to let the download finish and try it out then :)
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> rusher: no, you need a server backend for that, like a ldap server or other groupware solution.
[03:02] <Storkme> fyrestrtr, also, it worked on windows
[03:02] <Zyclop> darkowl: http://wiki.debian.org/?LiveCD or http://ibuild.livecd.net/ or http://www.linux-live.org/
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> Storkme: windows != linux
[03:02] <Gu3ssWho> Thanks to the ones that answered my questions, allthough basic ones :)
[03:02] <rusher> i have bind9
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> rusher: do you know what bind is?
[03:03] <Zyclop> darkowl: probably this one, too: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/cd-roms.html
[03:03] <Storkme> fyrestrtr, so my soundcard _selectively_ supports similtanueus streams?
[03:03] <rusher> ip binding ?
[03:03] <fourat> my mouse scrolling button is going very fast and i didnt get where to configure, 'System->Preferences->Mouse' dont get it
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> rusher: no, its a dns server.
 OK tnx
[03:03] <rusher> so just install ldap?
[03:03] <bigfoot1> how can i start a program via terimnial without that program hogging the terminal.
[03:03] <bigfoot1> say, a program like firfefox
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> Storkme: no, the windows *drivers* for your soundcard give it 'soft' channels that allow multiple streams to be played. In linux, you have to configure alsa for the same. There is a wiki entry for it.
[03:03] <snoops> add a & at the end bigfoot1
[03:03] <Zyclop> bigfoot1: add an & after the command
[03:03] <lz1gjd> use the & suffix
[03:04] <hyperstream> hmm why cant i run xsane as a user to get my brother DCP - 115c working... i have to run it as root in a terminal. im in the 'scanner' group as well
[03:04] <bigfoot1> snoops: zybrid lz1gjd Thank you 3
[03:04] <Storkme> arg.
[03:04] <snoops> :D
[03:04] <deFrysk>  & nohub
[03:04] <Storkme> fyrestrtr, when i installed my sound card, the sound for quake 4 stopped working
[03:05] <Zyclop> bigfoot1: it's Zyclop, not Zybrid
[03:05] <Stu> Where can I get the disk image for ubuntu 6.06 desktop so I can print it on my disk?
[03:05] <bigfoot1> Zyclop: thanks Zyclop
[03:05] <Zyclop> np
[03:05] <darkowl> Zyclop: I have a problem installing ibuild...
[03:06] <darkowl> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[03:06] <darkowl>   ibuild: Depends: python (< 2.4) but 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[03:06] <darkowl> E: Broken packages
[03:06] <hyperstream> is there anyway possible to make it so Windoze users on my network can access my samba shares without a login/pass prompt ??
[03:06] <rusher> remember
[03:06] <rusher> lol
[03:06] <rusher> click remember
[03:06] <czeksita> hi. Could you recommend me some bittorent clients using ncurses? i have found only rtorrent. Is there anything else?
[03:06] <Storkme> fyrestrtr, any ideas :| ?
[03:06] <rusher> you can make a loging script
[03:06] <rusher> net use \\bla
[03:06] <rusher> make a bat file that uses net use
[03:06] <rusher> can you can automatically login
[03:06] <Zyclop> darkowl: looks, like you need Python 2.4
[03:06] <kakado> hyperstream, if they use Win XP it will cache login
[03:07] <rusher> most places use a login script
 but i have it
[03:07] <Drakeson> how can I use mod_ruby? I couldn't find an example
[03:08] <Zyclop> darkowl: well, then I have no Idea what's causing the error.
[03:08] <cypher1> the apt-get dist-upgrade is downloading from internet eventhough dapper cdrom is mentioned in sources.list.. any one can help me with this
[03:09] <Stu> #ubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <Stu> joiin/#ubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <Stu> join/#ubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <Storkme> :|
[03:09] <narfmaster> /join
[03:09] <lz1gjd> its /j #channel
[03:09] <RodrigoX> lol
[03:10] <cypher1> Stu, is that for me ?
[03:10] <hyperstream> kakado,  ahh so even the first time they wont have to enter a u/p ?
[03:10] <Zyclop> sieg: if you say heil, I'm leaving
[03:10] <hyperstream> or its a 1 time thing they enter my u/p for my ubuntu account
[03:11] <sieg> moin moin for all in this channel
[03:12] <kakado> hyperstream, no the first time they need to :)
[03:12] <SurfnKid> g'day all
[03:12] <Stu> Where can I get the ubuntu 6.06 desktop disk label so I can print it on my disk?
[03:13] <kakado> hyperstream, but you configure your samba to be public / anonymous, read the man
[03:13] <satafterh> I read that Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) has DMA automatically enabled for drives that support it. What about ultra dma?
[03:13] <hyperstream> kakado,  ive tried that
[03:13] <hyperstream> guest public  doesnt work
[03:13] <abhinay> how to install GLib ?
[03:14] <bertu> can any1 tell me a good p2p program to download?
[03:14] <cypher1> abhinay, synaptic package manager
[03:14] <narfmaster> bertu, xchat
[03:14] <kakado> hyperstream, try man smb.conf
[03:14] <bertu> ok
[03:14] <bertu> 10x
[03:14] <hyperstream> arg
[03:15] <Zyclop> bertu: Gnutella
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2 - The GNU C++ extension library - runtime version -- install that
[03:15] <hyperstream> been there doen that.
[03:15] <cypher1> abhinay, System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:15] <hyperstream> the options you  would think would work
[03:15] <hyperstream> do not.
[03:15] <bertu> 10x looking for them botj
[03:15] <hyperstream> on the other hand in debian it does :)
[03:15] <sorush20> I followed the breezy installation method of firefox 1.5 and installed it in breezy now I'm in dapper and want to use dapper repository and to keep my firefox extensions and etc. how do i do this?
[03:16] <kakado> hyperstream, read about guest
[03:16] <tiagoboldt> sorush20: just upgrade your firefox with the version in the new repository, it will keep your extensions
[03:17] <kakado> hyperstream, do you know how to search a man doc?
[03:17] <oskude> Stu, the only i found was this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/CD-DVD-Artwork
[03:17] <WooD> Any of you has been able to sync Windows Mobile 5 with Ubuntu ?
[03:17] <sorush20> no it will not the firefox is installed int he /opt
[03:17] <sorush20> and my extensions are probebly too
[03:18] <CokeNCode> oi !
[03:18] <kbrosnan> sorush20, Just switch over to the dapper version, there is nothing you need to do but switch the command for the default browser
[03:18] <bertu> Zyclop: when i seached for Gnutella on Synaptic...it gave me 9 packages...whicj one shall i install?
[03:18] <hyperstream> yes i do
[03:18] <bimberi> Stu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#head-24e7e28efc73dab6fe7cbbbb0639d9dfad15caa1
[03:18] <rpedro> !search gnutella
[03:18] <ubotu> Found: limewire, p2p
[03:18] <CokeNCode> right, i realised this morning that ubuntu was doing the strangest thing. When I deleted files on my mp3 players, it wasn't actually deleting them, but creating a HIDDEN folder on my mp3 player called '.trash', and putting the files in there :@
[03:18] <CokeNCode> and it had me puzzled as to why i couldn't fit any more songs on
[03:18] <CokeNCode> how do i stop it from doing that ?
[03:19] <HiP_P> !search bittorrent
[03:19] <ubotu> Found: torrent, p2p
[03:19] <oskude> bimberi, cool, thanx, funny that search "cd art" dont go there...
[03:19] <HiP_P> !search torrent
[03:19] <ubotu> Found: portforward, torrent, p2p
[03:19] <hyperstream> and ive already stated that guest/ public DO NOT WORK.
[03:19] <snoops> I've been using dapper on my main box for about a month and a half now.. what I'm going to do is also install it on my media pc - in that month a lot of updates have come out.. is there a way to say make my main box into a repository so my media pc grabs all the new packages the main machine has?
[03:19] <HiP_P> !torrent
[03:19] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[03:19] <HiP_P> *ugger
[03:20] <bimberi> oskude: :)
[03:20] <rpedro> CokeNCode: there is an option in the nautilus preferences to displya na option to bypass trash when deleting. select it and then use the option that appears in the right click menu to delete files instantly
[03:20] <bertu> but when i seached for limewire on synaptic it didnt find anything :s
[03:20] <ThunderStruck> bertu: its not in the repos
[03:21] <CokeNCode> rpedro thanks, can i set it so that it only bypasses trash when dealing with usb devices tho
[03:21] <ThunderStruck> !limewire > bertu
[03:21] <snoops> isn't it frostwire or something on linux?
[03:21] <kakado> hyperstream, sorry I dont know if there is a difference in how Ubuntu handles samba
[03:21] <ThunderStruck> bertu: please read the pm from ubotu
[03:21] <ThunderStruck> snoops: no
[03:21] <CokeNCode> i don't mind it using trash normally, but 5.10 never did this with usb devices
[03:21] <hyperstream> i wouldnt think so
[03:21] <hyperstream> but there seems there is.
[03:21] <ThunderStruck> snoops: frostwire isnt in repos either
[03:21] <hyperstream> thanks for your help tho sir :)
[03:21] <CokeNCode> snoops frostwire and limewire ... both work
[03:21] <hyperstream> any ideas on the xsane scanner ?
[03:21] <ThunderStruck> amule is in the repos iirc
[03:21] <rpedro> CokeNCode: it only shows that option in the right click menu when you click on files, you can choose to use or not, though there maybe another of doing this with gnome
[03:22] <bertu> look wheen i nstalled frostwire... when i run it it never ran
[03:22] <CokeNCode> rpedro ok, thanks
[03:22] <ThunderStruck> bertu: install java first
[03:22] <SanketMedhi> hmmm
[03:22] <bertu> i have java....i think
[03:22] <ThunderStruck> bertu: if you installed it you still have to set it to default
[03:22] <SanketMedhi> hello fellas
[03:23] <bertu> how
[03:23] <bigfoot1> how come after I crop a jpeg and resave it with 100 percent quality and 100 smoothing, it doesn't look as good
[03:23] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:23] <ThunderStruck> !javadebs > bertu
[03:23] <ThunderStruck> read your pm bertu
[03:23] <bigfoot1> i'm using gthumb
[03:23] <oskude> bigbootay, make smoothing 0
[03:23] <bigfoot1> should i make smoothing 0 percent?
[03:23] <SanketMedhi> bigfoot1: use Gimp
[03:23] <bigfoot1> ah!!!!
[03:23] <oskude> bigbootay, sorry, ment bigfoot1
[03:24] <bigfoot1> SanketMedhi:i'll try making smoothing 0 perente. if thad oesn't work, i'll try gimp
[03:24] <SanketMedhi> bigfoot1: ok
[03:24] <Zyclop> at bootup the "configuring network interfaces" part takes bloody ages. Is there anything I can do?
[03:24] <SanketMedhi> Zyclop: dhcp?
[03:24] <elvirolo> hi all
[03:24] <SanketMedhi> hi
[03:25] <Zyclop> SanketMedhi: do you mean "do you have dhcp?" or "how about using dhcp?"
[03:25] <bigfoot1> why would anyone want to have smoothing on their pics?
[03:25] <alexbligh> Apologies for the dumb question, but how do I get the system beep (i.e. what happens when I press CTRL-G in a terminal window) to use the sound card instead of the tiny system speaker
[03:25] <SanketMedhi> Zyclop: wfirst one :)
[03:25] <elvirolo> i'm using dapper with a radeon 7500 graphics card, and all the 3d games (trackballs, etc.) I have are laggy whereas it worked under breezy and my FPS in glx gears is quite high
[03:25] <Ajeeeb> How do you force install, via preseed, to not use Internet... and use the local http server... i set mirror to "local" and hostname to the IP of my server but it still manages to find mirrors and use them....
[03:26] <SanketMedhi> alexbligh: go to System>>Preferences>>Sound
[03:26] <oskude> Zyclop, its propably taking long if youre using dhcp, and theres something wrong with connection pc - router...
[03:26] <alexbligh> SnakeMehdi, yes. What then?
[03:26] <alexbligh> SanketMedhi, (sorry)
[03:26] <SanketMedhi> elvirolo: check if you have the drivers installed
[03:26] <SanketMedhi> !tab
[03:26] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[03:26] <SanketMedhi> !tab > alexbligh
[03:27] <Zyclop> SanketMedhi: I did some configuring and I might have activated dhcp. How do I find out?
[03:27] <elvirolo> SanketMedhi: you mean proprietary ones ? cause there aren't any for my card
[03:27] <SanketMedhi> alexbligh: do you also have a DNS?
[03:27] <SanketMedhi> elvirolo: which card?
[03:27] <elvirolo> SanketMedhi: ATI Radeon 7500
[03:27] <SanketMedhi> !ati
[03:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:27] <SanketMedhi> !ati > elvirolo
[03:27] <bigfoot1> what are the "optimize" and "progressive" options in file/save in gthumb?
[03:27] <bigfoot1> what are they about?
[03:27] <SanketMedhi> !gthumb
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about gthumb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:28] <SanketMedhi> :s
[03:28] <oskude> lol ? ati drivers for monitor ? didnt know they make monitors...
[03:28] <alexbligh> SanketMedhi, sure (typed Sn, not Sa so tab wasn't working). System->Preferences->Sound doesn't help much - I can only enable/disable system beep, or cause a flash instead
[03:28] <SanketMedhi> oskude: ?
[03:28] <lassegs> hi
[03:28] <SanketMedhi> alexbligh: what do you want then?
[03:28] <abhinay> i tried to install libglib2.0-dev in synaptic package manger, the error was could not mark all packages for installation &saying unresolved dependencies  --> libglib2.0-dev:  Depends: libglib2.0-0 (=2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:28] <oskude> SanketMedhi, the answer from ubotu is wrong, ati/nvidia dont have drivers for monitors...
[03:28] <alexbligh> I want it to play through the soundcard, and out the speakers, not use the tiny speaker
[03:28] <gregg__> bigfoot1: progressive mode basically allows the picture to be previewed in lowres while downloading
[03:28] <nidda> Bonjour j'ai un probleme tres genant au niveau de EASYUBUNTU
[03:28] <SanketMedhi> oskude: who asked about monitors?
[03:29] <SanketMedhi> oskude: he said ATI Radeon
[03:29] <oskude> SanketMedhi, nvm
[03:29] <elvirolo> SanketMedhi: my card is not supported
[03:29] <nidda> On, m'a conseill pour ne pas me prendre la tete avec toutes les installations de paquets
[03:29] <bigfoot1> gregg__: isn't that something that the browser decides?
[03:29] <gregg__> bigfoot1: no
[03:29] <bigfoot1> what are the downsides of making a jpeg progressive?
[03:29] <oskude> SanketMedhi, yeah, but the answer from ubotu is not correct, its a driver for the grapihc chip, not for the monitor...
[03:29] <lassegs> anyone got a tip on where to find a good howto on setting up vmware player with windows?
[03:29] <bigfoot1> gregg__: whatt about optimize?
[03:29] <gregg__> a progressive jpeg first shows up very blocky and lowres adn then gradually becomes finer
[03:30] <nidda> mais maintenant j'ai des mesages d'erreur lorsque je tente d'utiliser synaptic, pire l'install de easyubuntu n'a rien chang  mon systerme : pas de java etc
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> !fr
[03:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:30] <elvirolo> oskude is right
[03:30] <gregg__> bigfoot1: sorry, I don't really know... it usually makes the JPEGs smallr though, and I use it because of that ;)
[03:30] <Howitzer> Does anyone know a good fast trash-metal alike band?
[03:30] <snoops> with nautilus can I add on views? I'd really like to add a mac os x style view to it if that's possible?
[03:30] <Howitzer> i'm dying for some adrenaline :D
[03:31] <elvirolo> anyway, this doesn't solve my problem
[03:31] <bigfoot1> gregg__: "it" is progressive? or optimize?
[03:31] <gregg__> bigfoot1: optimize
[03:32] <ThunderStruck> Howitzer: #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[03:32] <oskude> elvirolo, your card is not supported by "fglrx" driver ?
[03:32] <elvirolo> oskude: nope, it's too oldx
[03:32] <elvirolo> old*
[03:32] <gregg__> I guess it uses brute-force to decide on the best compression scheme or something along these lines
[03:32] <oskude> elvirolo, fglrx driver is from ATI, so you have to talk to them... what card do you have ?
[03:33] <elvirolo> oskude: Radeon 7500
[03:33] <elvirolo> oskude: they say on their website that they won't ever support it anyway
[03:33] <oskude> elvirolo, thats sad :(
[03:33] <elvirolo> yup
[03:34] <elvirolo> but the thing is it worked perfectly under breezy
[03:34] <abhinay> problem installing gaim-vv , i did ./configure,  error i got was...   Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...  The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the exact error that occurred. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed. configure: error: GLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GLib development headers installed.
[03:34] <oskude> elvirolo, with "fglrx" driver ?
[03:34] <lassegs> abhinay: why not just apt-get it?
[03:34] <abhinay> could anybody help ....
[03:34] <gregg__> abhinay: install glib/gtk devel packages
[03:34] <elvirolo> oskude: i don't think so
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: install glib, and glib-dev and build-essential
[03:34] <elvirolo> oskude: it worked fine out of the box
[03:35] <oskude> elvirolo, ok, then use the opensource driver "ati" (goes to "radeon" automaticly)
[03:35] <elvirolo> oskude: let me check in xorg.cong
[03:35] <elvirolo> conf*
[03:36] <sieg> hallo how to connect knuddels.de chat with ubuntu??
[03:36] <elvirolo> oskude: it is currently set to "ati"
[03:36] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, problem with installing glib-dev packages  , the error was...   could not mark all packages for installation &saying unresolved dependencies  --> libglib2.0-dev:  Depends: libglib2.0-0 (=2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> sieg: what protocol does it use?
[03:36] <oskude> elvirolo, and whats the problem ?
[03:36] <Howitzer> Is there any way to iconify X-Chat?
[03:36] <lassegs> sieg: uve gotta explain what you mean?
[03:37] <elhaxxorz> GDesklets is acting nuts! Can someone take a look at this??
[03:37] <elvirolo> elvirolo: 3d games are *very* laggy
[03:37] <SurfnKid> Howitzer, xchat-systray
[03:37] <Howitzer> elhaxxorz, give me remote desktop access :D
[03:37] <Howitzer> ty SurfnKid
[03:37] <oskude> elvirolo, well, AFAIK, ati/radeon doesnt have 3d hardware acceleration...
[03:37] <SurfnKid> yw mate
[03:37] <sieg> ok cant enter to knuddels because of not complete
[03:38] <lassegs> sieg: is knuddels.de an irc channel?
[03:38] <elvirolo> oskude: but it worked under breezy though
[03:38] <SurfnKid> elvirolo, youre saying breezy had fglrx configured but not dapper?
[03:39] <sieg> i think so because if i go to www.knuddels.de it works with java on some machines
[03:39] <oskude> elvirolo, hmm... i dont use ati anymore... (and i had 9250...=
[03:39] <elvirolo> SurfnKid: no, i was using the 'ati' driver too
[03:40] <SurfnKid> elvirolo, use fglrx instead, i got a 9600 ATI, can you configure it for fglrx on dapper?
[03:40] <oskude> elvirolo, and the same 3d game was WAY faster in breezy as it is now in dapper ?
[03:40] <Advant___> Where can I get all headers/source files?  I'm a developer, but once I install gcc, I have none of the standard header files or source on the system?
[03:40] <elhaxxorz> for anyone still looking, here's the output to aterm when trying to use gdesklets
[03:40] <elvirolo> SurfnKid: my card (radeon 7500) is not supported by fglrx
[03:40] <elhaxxorz> http://pastebin.ca/88058
[03:40] <SurfnKid> elvirolo, whaat :(
[03:41] <elvirolo> oskude: yeah, at least it was playable, now it isn't
[03:41] <rodelrod> Hi there. Since the latest kernel update (linux-686-2.6.15.24) on my xubuntu laptop, I can't access the network through my cable modem. When I connect the windows XP laptop, it works fine. Before the kernel update, I just had to do a ipconfig /release on the windows box and power cycle the modem. Can somebody help? am I at the right place?
[03:41] <elvirolo> oskude: it made a big difference
[03:41] <zm0> Advant___: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:41] <oskude> Advant___, foo-dev are the header packages, and... there was a command to get source code deb files...
[03:41] <johankj65> does anybody know how to remove the minimize trail in gnome?
[03:41] <SurfnKid> rodelrod, boot to 15.24 and dont worry about the newest kernel update
[03:42] <Advant___> zm0 and oskude thanks
[03:42] <oskude> elvirolo, sorry, cant help more on that...
[03:42] <elvirolo> oskude: no prob, thanks anyway :)
[03:42] <SurfnKid> elvirolo, i thought definitely for sure, on their page that card was supported, but sorry, not sure if you can try the driver anyway
[03:43] <oskude> elvirolo, just a quess, maybe the game is now a never version as it was in breezy, and thats why its slower...
[03:43] <sieg> lassegs still there ?
[03:43] <elvirolo> oskude: well, i checked, and it is not the case
[03:43] <pixelfairy> does ubuntu use some form of access control (like selinux)?
[03:43] <elvirolo> SurfnKid: never mind ... thanks anyway
[03:43] <pixelfairy> i sometimes get sendmsg: not permitted
[03:44] <pixelfairy> and have to reboot
[03:44] <rodelrod> SurfnKid: I do boot to 15.24. But the network doesn't work anymore. Is there a way to revert to the previous kernel version just to make sure that is the problem? I used Update Manager
[03:44] <pixelfairy> this is on ppc (ibook)
[03:44] <SurfnKid> elvirolo, yw
[03:44] <pixelfairy> for any kind of network connection
[03:44] <SurfnKid> rodelrod, boot to the previous kernel,  15.23?
[03:45] <sieg> lassegs thanks for trying to help
[03:45] <SurfnKid> rodelrod, and remove 15.24 from the grub menu
[03:45] <pixelfairy> or just try booting to the old one
[03:45] <pixelfairy> and see how it goes
[03:45] <SurfnKid> pixelfairy, right, whichever it is
[03:46] <Advant___> How do I change my console prompt so its just :~$ ?
[03:46] <rodelrod> SurfnKid: the previous kernel is gone, Update Manager got rid of it automatically...
[03:46] <SurfnKid> sudo update-grub
[03:46] <pixelfairy> Advant___: export PS1=":\w$ "
[03:46] <Advant___> pixelfairy:  thanks
[03:46] <pixelfairy> Advant___: put that in your ~/.bashrc or something
[03:46] <PyroticShadow> Good morning fellow Ubuntuneers *tips hat*
[03:47] <SurfnKid> rodelrod, use that..   if not, then you might have to manually edit menu.lst, check your /boot folder to see if the previous kernels are still there. They Should technically be
[03:47] <pixelfairy> (or .bash_profile) depending on taste
[03:47] <SurfnKid> brb, breakfast
[03:47] <rodelrod> SurfnKid: thanx, I'll check taht
[03:47] <SurfnKid> rodelrod, np
[03:47] <pixelfairy> rodelrod: so your having network problems too?
[03:47] <pixelfairy> whats going on with yours?
[03:48] <LTjake> morning all. i can't seem to get my windows key to work in dapper. in the keyboard prefs my keyboard model is shown to be "unknown" and i can't seem to change it (no other models are available). any ideas?
[03:49] <pixelfairy> LTjake: does it show up in xev?
[03:49] <rodelrod> pixelfairy: yes. I can't get a working DHCP lease from my cable ISP since the kernel upgrade to 15.24. I'm now checking if the previous kernel is still around to confirm that is the problem
[03:49] <nol13> hi, i need help getting the xmms-shn plugin to instal, the ./configure tells me that i need a version of xmms > 1.0.0 and im running like 1.2.11. is there any way i can make this work?
[03:50] <pixelfairy> rodelrod: mines differnt, i can get a dhcp lease (internal dhcp server)
[03:50] <nol13> it say that no version > 1.0.0 was found though
[03:50] <pixelfairy> but thats it
[03:50] <pixelfairy> cant make any network connections when it happens
[03:50] <LTjake> pixelfairy: it seems to, yeah.
[03:50] <pixelfairy> then i reboot and it works again
[03:50] <oskude> nol13, you maybe need the -dev package of xmms
[03:51] <LTjake> keycode 115
[03:51] <pixelfairy> LTjake: that should have a name
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> LTjake: have you tried running xmodmap?
[03:51] <LTjake> Super_L, perhaps?
[03:51] <pixelfairy> then you can bind it in xorg.conf
[03:52] <pixelfairy> or with xmodmap
[03:52] <pixelfairy> whcih is probalby easier
[03:52] <nol13> ok ill give that a try
[03:52] <Ropechoborra> Need to add subtitules to a moovie someone can helpme?
[03:52] <Advant___> THe only refresh rate available to me is 60Hz, do I need to install some drivers or something to get that to increase?
[03:53] <pixelfairy> Advant___: what card? and is it a laptop?
[03:53] <Advant___> pixelfairy :  yeah laptop, not sure which card is in it
[03:53] <oskude> nol13, if youre compiling things, and they need some librarys or programs, they mostly need the headers of them. and those are in blahblah-dev packages
[03:53] <Ropechoborra> Advant___ i think u can modify that from xorg config, put that depends on your monitor
[03:53] <pixelfairy> Advant___: then you probalby dont want more than 60Hz
[03:54] <pixelfairy> it doesnt matter on a laptop
[03:54] <Advant___> pixelfairy :  60 on lcd is ok?
[03:54] <Ropechoborra> *but
[03:54] <pixelfairy> yea, its what they run at
[03:54] <studprog> Hi .,.. anybody know where to find a howto about setting up a local Ubuntu mirror
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> studprog: for apt?
[03:54] <LTjake> fyrestrtr: no, sorry. i'm not sure how that app works...
[03:54] <ompaul> studprog, an actual mirror or a apt cache?
[03:54] <ompaul> studprog, there is a huge difference
[03:54] <Ropechoborra> Need to add subtitules to a moovie someone can helpme?
[03:55] <pixelfairy> Ropechoborra: i think theres a howto on tldp.org
[03:55] <oskude> studprog, heres what google said as first hit with "local ubuntu mirror" (but i didnt read it) http://mylifeasasoftwaretester.blogspot.com/2006/06/creating-local-ubuntu-mirror.html
[03:55] <Ropechoborra> ty
[03:56] <fyrestrtr> LTjake: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.xx (where xx is the language of the keyboard mapping you want, try xmodmap.us)
[03:56] <studprog> let me put it this way ... i have to deploy ubuntu on 200 machines - and it would be nice if they were updated via a local mirror instead of using a lot of bandwidth "out-of-the-house"
[03:56] <jkp> does the alternate cd let you do custom installs?
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> studprog: you want an apt cache, apt-cacher is available in repos, set that up :)
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> jkp: yes.
[03:57] <LTjake> fyrestrtr: will do, sec.
[03:57] <jkp> ta
[03:57] <snowblink> studprog, apt-proxy is another option
[03:57] <Hexidigital_> anyone else getting a "cannot authenticate" error when apt-get 'ting?
[03:57] <studprog> fyrestrtr: ok
[03:57] <dr_willis> studprog,  ya could put the /var/apt/cache dir on a NFS share.
[03:58] <oskude> Hexidigital_, only if youre using not official repos that you didnt authenticate...
[03:58] <studprog> dr_willis: we were planning on that ... either that or using the intranet
[03:58] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  i never had that happen before, and didn't change my ~/sources.list
[03:58] <LTjake> fyrestrtr: didn't seem to help (i'm testing by trying the amarok command to stop the current track, Win+V)
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> Hexidigital_: there is a wiki entry on it.
[03:59] <oskude> Hexidigital_, could you pastebin your sources.list (just to be sure)
[03:59] <Hexidigital_> good deal
[03:59] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  sure, give me one sec
[03:59] <nol13> thanks oskdude, no errors this time
[03:59] <oskude> nol13, roger
[03:59] <fyrestrtr> LTjake: is it only in that program that the win key is not working?
[03:59] <RvGaTe> Is there a guide on how to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu? or is it listed in the package manager?
[03:59] <WooD> Any of you has been able to sync Windows Mobile 5 with Ubuntu ?
[04:00] <drega> dmesg and /var/log/messages are the best things to track down a random system crash correct/
[04:00] <pixelfairy> RvGaTe: its onthe ubuntu wiki
[04:00] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[04:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> drega: or bad ram, weak power supply, overheating, etc. depending on the nature of the crash.
[04:00] <oskude> WooD, hmm, how should that go ? you can maybe copy the files from there, but "sync windows with linux" ?...
[04:01] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17991
[04:01] <WooD> oskude:  i would like to be able to sync with evolution all contacts i have in my Pocket PC
[04:02] <oskude> Hexidigital_, hmm, they are default indeed, very strange that you get authenticaion error :/
[04:02] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  i should add, that until now, i hadn't noticed a sources.list.d
[04:02] <LTjake> fyrestrtr: no. the fancy water trails from compiz (Ctrl+Win) don't seem to work either :) -- also now it seems i can't switch workspaces with Ctrl+Alt+Arrow... ack.
[04:02] <oskude> WooD, then ask about syncing the email client with evolution...
[04:02] <chri[s] > how come ubuntu i find unrar-free but not unrar and in gnome when i install it it doesnt link it
[04:03] <oskude> Hexidigital_, never heard about such file... mv it to another name and try apt-get again, just for test...
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> LTjake: hrmm.
[04:03] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  ok
[04:03] <oskude> !unrar
[04:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about unrar - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> !info unrar
[04:03] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[04:04] <WooD> oskude: I dont want to sync with any email but everything i have in my Pocket pc with Evolution.  Windows mobile 2003se is working on Ubuntu that is what I know so far, but maybe someone has been able to sync with the 2005
[04:04] <chri[s] > how can i repair my key?=
[04:04] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  ~/sources.list.d is a directory...
[04:04] <rodelrod27> SurfnKid: (I'm the rodelrod from a while back) I booted from the previous kernel and the network connection works fine. should I assume it is a kernel bug and report it somewhere? I'm a total noob
[04:04] <LTjake> fyrestrtr: fyi, this is a laptop keyboard (dell d620)
[04:04] <oskude> WooD, sorry, i got like no idea about windows mobile...
[04:04] <Hexidigital_> and it's empty, oskude
[04:05] <fyrestrtr> LTjake: try restarting the x server, and debug stuff in non-xgl first.
[04:05] <WooD> oskude: np
[04:05] <oskude> Hexidigital_, ah it in youre home dir, you may remove it (AFAIK)
[04:05] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  no... /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[04:06] <oskude> Hexidigital_, then please dont say " ~/sources.list.d"
[04:06] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  yeah, i didn't know ~ implied home
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> *sigh* 147 hours to download a torrent.
[04:06] <oskude> Hexidigital_, do apt-get and pastebin the error...
[04:08] <lassegs> fyrestrtr: see you next week then :P
[04:08] <amortvigil> help after installing the nieuw update  ubuntu gives an error of a broken pakage :  subproces nieuw pre-removal script gaf een foutwaarde 102 terug
[04:08] <amortvigil> Fouten gevonden tijdens behandelen van:
[04:08] <amortvigil>  /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1_i386.deb
[04:08] <amortvigil> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) and what ever i try: synaptic or apt-get -f install or updatemager noting fixes the problem , what sould i do??
[04:09] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  can you suggest a small "universe" package? (until i find the php one i need?)
[04:10] <Hexidigital_> i have installed everything i need so far
[04:10] <oskude> Hexidigital_, cant compute, please rephrase...
[04:10] <erUSUL> amortvigil: sudo apt-get -f upgrade ??
[04:10] <amortvigil> doesnt work
[04:10] <Hexidigital_> nevermind... gimme a sec to paste the error, oskude
[04:11] <snorre> Anyone care to help me with this: http://pastebin.ca/86909
[04:12] <reiki> ok I have made a decision.... since I don't USE the stupid extra buttons on this keyboard... I'm not going to BOTHER driving myself nuts trying to get them mapped :)
[04:12] <fyrestrtr> snorre: what about it?
[04:12] <fyrestrtr> reiki: lol
[04:13] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  it's a screenshot http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17994
[04:14] <snorre> fyrestrtr: I'm new to this and need expert help to guide me through it
[04:14] <oskude> hmm, never used php5-xsl... sad that it doesnt say from where it wants to get it...
[04:16] <oskude> Hexidigital_, or do "sudo apt-get clean" and then again, then it should show where it gets the package
[04:16] <snorre> fyrestrtr: I'm still at step 1, I got gcc-3.4 installed
[04:16] <fyrestrtr> snorre: next step is to install the kernel sources for the kernel you are using.
[04:16] <fyrestrtr> snorre: also install build-essential
[04:16] <snorre> fyrestrtr: gcc -v displays gcc version 3.4.6 (Ubuntu 3.4.6-1ubuntu2)
[04:17] <lassegs> snorre: you really dont need expert help to do this :P
[04:17] <snorre> fyrestrtr: care to be more specific - I'm new to all this?
[04:17] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  nope, still not authenticated... .also i noticed something else wierd... when i load a page, sometimes a screen will show up on my desktop... (i'll screenshot that in a second)
[04:17] <snorre> lassegs: I haven't done this before, so anyone with experience is an expert to me :)
[04:17] <fyrestrtr> snorre: let me see if I can find an easier way to do this.
[04:18] <oskude> Hexidigital_, yeah, it will propably show that error again, but atleas i would see from where it gets the package... if its "official" package, you may found a bug... or something else is bad...
[04:18] <kOpter> Yello. I just installed an icon theme, which resulted in a not working Login window. By removing the /usr/share/icon/theme I got the system back and running again.. anyone got any ideas why this happens?
[04:18] <snorre> fyrestrtr: great, just let me know what to do step by step is prefered :)
[04:19] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  should it say when i apt-get where it comes from? if so, it dosen't
[04:19] <lassegs> snorre: save fyrestrtr some time by installing build-essential  now. apt-get install build-essential
[04:19] <oskude> Hexidigital_, if you did "sudo apt-get clean" it should donwload the package again, and it should show from where it doeanloads it...
[04:20] <snorre> lassegs: ok :)
[04:20] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  sudo apt-get clean install php5-xsl? or sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install blah?
[04:20] <oskude> Hexidigital_, the later
[04:21] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  dosen't show where it downloads from
[04:21] <oskude> Hexidigital_, hmm...
[04:21] <snorre> lassegs: installed :)
[04:22] <oskude> Hexidigital_, well, i get like "Get:1 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main libgtk1.2-dev 1.2.10-18 [1147kB] "
[04:22] <gpled> need a link, for a site, that has high speed download of ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[04:22] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  stupid question... would this be because i have KDM and GDE on this pc?
[04:22] <Hexidigital_> *KDE
[04:22] <oskude> Hexidigital_, those shouldnt touch apt-get atall
[04:23] <lassegs> snorre: nice
[04:23] <Hexidigital_> that's what i thought
[04:23] <Dimensions> hie ... i have installed ubuntu ... when the login screen comes i gave my user name and passwd it says Admin can't login from this screen ... ?
[04:23] <rsteele> secret
[04:23] <snorre> lassegs: What's next?
[04:23] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  perhaps i've been hacked?
[04:23] <dr_willis> Admin? you mean root?
[04:23] <ssm> Dimensions: login as yourself, and use "sudo"
[04:23] <dr_willis> !sudo
[04:23] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:23] <gpled> Dimensions: whats your user name?
[04:23] <nol13> hi, i need help getting my wifi working properly too, ever since the dapper upgrade i cant get above 20kB/s, i was using ndiswrapper but i think it went back to using the OS acx driver. sorry, i'd love to use the open source driver, but it sucks. anyone know how i can get it to use ndiswrapper again?
[04:23] <oskude> Hexidigital_, do "sudo apt-get clean" and then the other apt-get and pastebin the output
[04:23] <Hexidigital_> ok
[04:24] <Dimensions> gpled:  my user name is root ... which i had set
[04:24] <dr_willis> this is twice ive heard of a user isntalling their ownly user with the name of 'root'
[04:24] <bertu> are you sure that is root?
[04:24] <snorre> lassegs: I also installed linux-headers-2.6.15-23-server and linux-source-2.6.15 (uname -a displays Linux archimedes 2.6.15-23-server #1 SMP Tue May 23 15:10:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux)
[04:24] <dr_willis> and i think last time - the fix was to reinstall and make a real username. :)
[04:24] <gpled> Dimensions:  just wondering.  why would you want that for a user name?
[04:24] <lassegs> snorre: wait for fyrestrtr, cause im at work and my computer activity is monitored, so i havent got the time to help you very much :P sorry
[04:25] <snorre> lassegs: Ok, I see
[04:25] <Dimensions> grrr....
[04:25] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17995
[04:25] <Dimensions> so can't i login now as my user name root which i set during installation ?
[04:25] <hacim> where can I find w32codecs?
[04:26] <lens> what's the best way to normalize a folder full of say ... 500 mp3s? (batch)
[04:26] <snorre> fyrestrtr: Still there?
[04:26] <Spaceraverlinux> !tell hacim about restrictedformats
[04:26] <bertu> look dimensions
[04:26] <oskude> Hexidigital_, hmm, very strange... try both commands alone (not with &&)
[04:26] <Hexidigital_> ok
[04:26] <gpled> Dimensions: you could maybe boot into single usermode through grub. but what where you thinking, giving your self a username of root.  makes no sense
[04:26] <bertu> when you boot in the bottom right screen there is your name or hostname...what is it
[04:27] <Dimensions> bertu:  there is my computer name on the right bottom on login screen
[04:27] <lassegs> snorre: if fyrestrtr left, you should get someone else to help you, because this isnt very hard
[04:27] <bertu> which is...
[04:27] <ctkroeker> Whats the best way to get special caracters in ubuntu? i.e.  
[04:27] <Spaceraverlinux> gah, i cant get wakeonlan to work
[04:27] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17996
[04:27] <Dimensions> crypto
[04:28] <bertu> try crpto as a username
[04:28] <Dimensions> i have tried that too
[04:28] <bertu> and then use your pass
[04:28] <Dimensions> didn'twork
[04:28] <bertu> ok
[04:28] <oskude> Hexidigital_, thats very strange, as the "sudo apt-get clean" wouldnt work...
[04:28] <dr_willis> Dimensions,  you could boot to singleuser mode/rescue mode anbd add a real user name.
[04:28] <snorre> lassegs: Ok, I hope so
[04:28] <bertu> try to reinstallit eh?
[04:28] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  should i be thinking bad things right now? (reinstall?)
[04:28] <oskude> Hexidigital_, have you done some "not ubuntu way" things lately ?
[04:28] <Dimensions> okie dr_willis ty i didn't know what u meant by single user mode i got it now ...
[04:29] <snorre> Can anyone please help me with this http://pastebin.ca/86909 ?
[04:29] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  just dual-booting winxp, nothing else
[04:29] <bertu> seeing it snorre
[04:29] <dr_willis> Dimensions,  maybe much faster to  just do a reinstall and select a good user name.
[04:29] <bertu> i agree
[04:29] <nol13> hacim, add the cipherpunk repositories to your sources.list     http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:29] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  i have been trying to install apache server and mysql server for my non-production env. (this is a laptop)
[04:29] <oskude> Hexidigital_, hmm, very strange. sounds like a bug...
[04:29] <E_Jackyou_Later> Does someone know a nice tutorial to install ubuntu on a usb drive?
[04:29] <bertu> it only takes like half an hour maximum
[04:30] <snorre> Berge: Good, I'm still stuck at step 1 :P
[04:30] <erUSUL> snorre: does the driver that comes with the linux kernel not work for you?
[04:30] <E_Jackyou_Later> :)
[04:30] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  this didn't happen yesterday, but it caught me as wierd
[04:30] <bertu> ok dimensions?
[04:30] <dr_willis> E_Jackyou_Later,  id seen some docs on other sites.. but never did get the usb drive isntalls of any disrto working right.
[04:30] <Dimensions> ummm yea when it started it took half and hour though the installation crashed for two hours in step five ... at first
[04:30] <dr_willis> E_Jackyou_Later,  this was for other disrtos however.
[04:30] <vito> Does anyone know a good way to make extremely long text files (eg free ebooks) more readable?
[04:30] <gpled> Dimensions: are you pulling our leg, or did you realy pick root as your username?
[04:30] <snorre> erUSUL: No, and I got this driver source code yesterday
[04:30] <Dimensions> half an hour*
[04:31] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  i do appreciate your help (greatly)
[04:31] <drega> lol
[04:31] <E_Jackyou_Later> dr_willis: yes, dsl at least, does work
[04:31] <dr_willis> gpled,  this is like the 3rd time this week - ive heard of a guy doing that.
[04:31] <drega> vito convert them to html?
[04:31] <Dimensions> lol gpled i did gave that un lol
[04:31] <erUSUL> snorre: well.. if you must... where is the problem
[04:31] <erUSUL> ?
[04:31] <bertu> what computer do you have dimensions
[04:31] <fyrestrtr> snorre: okay sorry, am busy with something. How far did you get?
[04:31] <oskude> Hexidigital_, heres how it looks like here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17997
[04:31] <nostZZZZZ> how do i get .net 2.0 support in mono on dapper ?
[04:31] <E_Jackyou_Later> but my drive's size is 1gb, so i thought about putting something nicer onto it...
[04:31] <gpled> dr_willis: this must be some kind of joke :)
[04:31] <snorre> erUSUL: see my link
[04:32] <dr_willis> gpled,  sounds more to me like a bug in the Installer thats allowing it.
[04:32] <gpled> dr_willis: i am always that last one to be let in on it
[04:32] <vito> drega...I guess I'm not looking to change the files themselves..but maybe some sort of either app, or firefox plugin, or css/js deal?
[04:32] <SurfnKid> rodelrod27, hey
[04:32] <Dimensions> well i had done the same two yrs ago with RH that went fine till today lol
[04:32] <SurfnKid> rodelrod27, still there
[04:32] <snorre> fyrestrtr: I'm still at step 1, got gcc-3.4 up and running and installed the build-essential
[04:32] <earthen> anyone having trouble getting update these past few days
[04:32] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  when i allow the install, it shows me where the dl comes from.... (brb)
[04:32] <fyrestrtr> snorre: okay, install the kernel source files for the kernel you are using.
[04:33] <bertu> look mine is 4 yrs old and it took me like half an hour to nstall it
[04:33] <erUSUL> snorre: i see the instruccions of how to compile the driver yes but what is your problem?
[04:33] <bertu> try again...what can i say?
[04:33] <Dimensions> when i set a u/name and passwd in installation does it also create root / admin beside that user ? or that user is basically the root then ?
[04:33] <erUSUL> !root
[04:33] <oskude> !sudo
[04:33] <kbrosnan> vito, for firefox to do anyting you would need to add html data and css styling
[04:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:33] <oskude> :)
[04:33] <bertu> look when installing it
[04:33] <londondave> hi, if I compile and install an app with one kernel, the kernel is then updated, build the app again and get bad symbol errors, any ideas what causes that
[04:33] <snorre> fyrestrtr: uname -a gives Linux archimedes 2.6.15-23-server #1 SMP Tue May 23 15:10:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux so I installed linux-source-2.6.15 and linux-headers-2.6.15-23-server
[04:34] <fyrestrtr> snorre: okay, you have /usr/src/linux directory now?
[04:34] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  i dont know... i will wait before i act rashly, and reinstall... i dont want to b/c i FINALLY have bcm drivers working
[04:34] <snorre> erUSUL: To get it working with Ubuntu 6.06 Server, that's the problem
[04:34] <bertu> you input your name then your nick which will write to the user <nick>-desktop by deafault then write the password
[04:34] <vito> well, right..but i've notice some javascript stuff that can present a file to you differently from how it was written without actually modifying it. Does that make sense?
[04:34] <Dimensions> bertu:  my pc is 1 Ghz
[04:34] <snorre> fyrestrtr: Not yet, should I make a symlink?
[04:34] <bertu> and 2 yrs old?
[04:34] <oskude> Hexidigital_, it could be something wrong with the repo, but i normally get a 404 when that happens...
[04:35] <fyrestrtr> snorre: yeah, most programs expect /usr/src/linux
[04:35] <Dimensions> nah 2 yrs old i was talkin abt RH ...
[04:35] <dr_willis> Dimensions,  there IS a root user allready made. but direct logging in as root is disabled. Your first user you make  has 'sudo' access. thus full root access.
[04:35] <bertu>  o
[04:35] <bertu> ok
[04:35] <Hexidigital_> oskude::  i see.  well, thank you VERY much for your time :)
[04:35] <bertu> mine is 1.6
[04:35] <oskude> Hexidigital_, np
[04:35] <Dimensions> ohh i didn't know that dr_willis otherwise i wudn't have done so ...
[04:36] <snorre> fyrestrtr: should I make a symlink to /usr/src/linux of linux-headers-2.6.15-23-server or linux-source-2.6.15 ?
[04:36] <bertu> brb
[04:36] <fyrestrtr> snorre: source
[04:36] <snorre> fyrestrtr: but that is not the kernel I'm using?
[04:36] <Dimensions> tyt bertu
[04:37] <keizo> hi
[04:37] <oskude> ho
[04:37] <fyrestrtr> snorre: you are on which kernel?
[04:37] <keizo> anybody speak french ?
[04:37] <fyrestrtr> !fr
[04:37] <oskude> !fr
[04:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:37] <gpled> anyone using ubuntu server install, in production?
[04:37] <snorre> fyrestrtr: Linux archimedes 2.6.15-23-server #1 SMP Tue May 23 15:10:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:38] <fyrestrtr> snorre: don't think you will have a problem.
[04:38] <bertu> bk
[04:38] <juan> hi
[04:39] <oskude> ho
[04:39] <bertu> hey can you just try to reinstall ubuntu?
[04:39] <juan> i'm looking for help...
[04:39] <bertu> !help
[04:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:39] <phunkalicious> well you've come to the right place! but only sometimes :|
[04:39] <oskude> !helpme
[04:39] <bertu> tell me
[04:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:39] <ThunderStruck> !helpme
[04:39] <juan> i have ubuntu 5.1
[04:40] <bertu> yes
[04:40] <oskude> !enter
[04:40] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:40] <snorre> fyrestrtr: ok, symlink created
[04:40] <dr_willis> juan,  may want  to look into updating.
[04:40] <fyrestrtr> snorre: okay, now hit make in the directory of the drivers you downloaded.
[04:40] <bertu> yes get dapper
[04:40] <juan> how to update to version 6.0
[04:40] <fyrestrtr> !update > juan
[04:40] <juan> aja
[04:41] <bertu> download the latest version or order the cd from ship-it
[04:41] <chri[s] > a complete system restart?
[04:41] <juan> ummm ok
[04:41] <bertu> can you download with a good spedd juan?
[04:42] <juan> i cant update direct from ubuntu instalation?
[04:42] <juan> 60 kbps
[04:42] <Advant___> Can you change the desktop's icon sizes?
[04:42] <azcazandco> hi folks, how can I check which kernel I am running, I read something about 900mb ram limit
[04:42] <fyrestrtr> azcazandco: uname -a
[04:42] <sztanpet> uname -a
[04:42] <bertu> i dont know with that speed
[04:42] <SurfnKid> rodelrod27, if youre still there
[04:42] <juan> 256 kbps
[04:43] <juan> 384 kbps sorry
[04:43] <juan> adsl
[04:43] <oskude> juan, i thought you can update with the ubuntu 6.06 dapper desktop cd... but i may be wrong.. never done that
[04:43] <SurfnKid> rodelrod27, the new kernel might not necessarily have a bug, you might have to re-enable the interface, have you tried that?
[04:43] <bertu> ok that good
[04:43] <phunkalicious> can anyone help me with my volume issue? here is the background: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1253550&postcount=6
[04:43] <fyrestrtr> juan: you don't need the cd -- if you don't mind waiting. Read the update how to entry in the wiki.
[04:43] <fyrestrtr> !update
[04:43] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[04:43] <rpedro> Advant___: you can , but it will change the icon sizes in nautilus too
[04:43] <azcazandco> and how do I tell if this is 686 or 386
[04:43] <Ropechoborra> How browsse the web in tty?
[04:43] <bertu> juan:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[04:44] <phunkalicious> lynx or link2
[04:44] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: install lynx
[04:44] <Advant___> rpedro :  Where do I do it?
[04:44] <juan> ok bertu
[04:44] <Ropechoborra> ty ! :)
[04:44] <fyrestrtr> azcazandco: it should tell you.
[04:44] <UltraMagnus> hi, can anyone help me please? when i click "check" on the "software updates" menu i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17999
[04:44] <bertu> or if youre patient....get it from ship it
[04:44] <azcazandco> ah doh! so ti does... soz
[04:44] <juan> nooo
[04:44] <juan> jajaja
[04:44] <Dimensions> thank bertu and dr_willis...
[04:44] <juan> hahahaha
[04:44] <rpedro> Advant___: go to nautilus preferences, and there change the 'default zoom level' for the 'Icon view'
[04:44] <azcazandco> thanks
[04:44] <Dimensions> bbs
[04:44] <oskude> azcazandco, i use "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and the "cpu_family" says the x in x86
[04:44] <bertu> np
[04:45] <Dimensions> :)
[04:45] <Advant___> rpedro :  ok, i'm not sure what nautilus is
[04:45] <arinel> hi! can you tell me what 7.1 sound card works well under linux? (by "well", i mean I want to have 7.1 surround sound)
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> oskude: that's not your kernel version.
[04:45] <juan> what is kunbutu or edubuntu o exbuduntu
[04:45] <snorre> fyrestrtr: http://pastebin.ca/88106
[04:45] <juan> ???
[04:45] <oskude> fyrestrtr, oh my fault. thought it was about which cpu someone has.
[04:46] <bertu> ultramagnus: check the repositories
[04:46] <rpedro> Advant___: nautilus is the gnome file manager, it's the window that comes up when you chose something from the Places menu
[04:46] <UltraMagnus> bertu: thanks for that in depth reply....
[04:46] <juan> you know any channel for assitense in spanich?
[04:46] <juan> spanish*
[04:46] <Advant___> rpedro :  thanks :)
[04:46] <fyrestrtr> oskude: make clean && make
[04:46] <fyrestrtr> !es
[04:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:46] <bertu> look
[04:46] <juan> jajajaa gracias
[04:47] <snorre> fyrestrtr: It seems to be using /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-server even if /usr/src/linux is pointing to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15
[04:47] <juan> hahaha thx
[04:47] <bertu> did you activate Universe and Multiverse Repositories
[04:47] <bertu> ?
[04:47] <arinel> can you tell me what 7.1 sound card works well with ubuntu? (by "well", i mean I want to have 7.1 surround sound)
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> snorre: don't think it will matter, the -server isn't too important. As long as the kernel version numbers are the same.
[04:48] <oskude> snorre, did you do "./configure" before make ? (if it has configure) and fyrestrtr said "make clean && make"
[04:48] <UltraMagnus> bertu: yes
[04:48] <bertu> ok
[04:48] <Toby_W> i need some help please
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> snorre: paste the makefile
[04:48] <juan> bertu thx for your help
[04:48] <bertu> look about 3 days aho i had the same problem
[04:48] <bertu> np juan
[04:48] <UltraMagnus> bertu: i dont think thats the problem, notice its resolving the ubuntu servers as 1.0.0.0
[04:48] <bertu> and then i waited about a day and they worked ;)
[04:48] <snorre> fyrestrtr: ok, what's next?
[04:48] <snorre> oskude: No, should I have?
[04:49] <fyrestrtr> snorre: pastebin the makefile, I want to have a look at it.
[04:49] <bertu> probably the servers are unavailable
[04:49] <UltraMagnus> bertu: i have been having this problem for over a week
[04:49] <fyrestrtr> UltraMagnus: what problem?
[04:50] <Toby_W> get the following error when i click on volume control: 'No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or device found'
[04:50] <bertu> i dont know then
[04:50] <oskude> snorre, the "standard" compile procedure is, ./configure, make and make install (but "make install" is not really allways needed, and i would suggest "checkinstall" for newbies instead)
[04:50] <UltraMagnus> fyrestrtr: when i click "check" on the "software updates" menu i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17999
[04:50] <binfalse> not sure
[04:50] <bertu> or you can add new mirrors i think
[04:50] <bertu> !mirrors
[04:50] <xhm> hello, I'm looking for help with a problem after running automatix
[04:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:50] <oskude> !automatix
[04:50] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:50] <Toby_W> have just installed ubuntu
[04:50] <finalbeta> I'm using firestarter. I'm also using azureus using Upnp. How can I make sure upnp forwarded ports are allowed to the system?
[04:50] <xhm> ah, ok thanx
[04:50] <bertu> i dont know exactly but
[04:50] <snorre> fyrestrtr: http://pastebin.ca/88109
[04:51] <fyrestrtr> UltraMagnus: are you having any problems browsing the net?
[04:51] <Toby_W> is anyone able to help?
[04:52] <bertu> tell me if i can help you toby_w
[04:52] <UltraMagnus> fyrestrtr: well, i sometimes have to restart my router to get my net working every so often....
[04:52] <reiki> ok... let's say I go into Preferences -> keyboards ... I change the keyboard.... now I go into Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts... the available keys stay the same? Do I have to log out and back in after changing the keyboard?
[04:52] <bertu> but fyrestrtr it looks that the servers are unavilable
[04:52] <snorre> oskude: ok, I didn't know that.  Please take a look at http://pastebin.ca/86909 and let me know what you think I should do
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> snorre: hrmm, what do you have in cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ ?
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> UltraMagnus: other than that, no problems, right?
[04:52] <bertu> Tell me Toby_W
[04:52] <UltraMagnus> fyrestrtr: yeah
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> UltraMagnus: just change the servers in your sources.list file.
[04:53] <snorre> fyrestrtr: 2.6.15-23-server
[04:53] <bertu> change mirrors fyrestrtr eh?
[04:53] <Toby_W> ok this is problem - get following error when clicking on volume control: 'No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found'
[04:53] <oskude> snorre, well its all in there what you have to do... doesnt have really something to do with ubuntu, so...
[04:54] <Turtlewind> hi - I have a (probably quite dumb) Wine question
[04:54] <fyrestrtr> snorre: do you have a build/ directory in there?
[04:54] <UltraMagnus> fyrestrtr: hmm, ok
[04:54] <thomas_> IDENTIFY anerinhof
[04:54] <oskude> snorre, and it says it wants gcc 3.x, ubuntu has 4.x (AFAIK)
[04:54] <Toby_W> bertu problem is above
[04:54] <snorre> fyrestrtr: in /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-server/ ?
[04:54] <fyrestrtr> thomas_: change your password, quickly.
[04:54] <bertu> mmm let me look at it
[04:54] <UltraMagnus> thomas_: lol... time to change password?
[04:54] <fyrestrtr> snorre: yes.
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> oskude: you can install gcc-3 from repos.
[04:55] <Turtlewind> when I run a program in Wine, it sits in the top left hand side of the screen at whatever resolution it's supposed to be in, rather than expanding to fill the whole screen
[04:55] <oskude> fyrestrtr, yes...
[04:55] <Turtlewind> is there a way to make it fill the screen?
[04:55] <bertu> so you cont have sound Toby_W eh?
[04:55] <snorre> fyrestrtr: yes, build is a symlink that points to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-server
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> Turtlewind: run winecfg (or whatever it is) and untick the box labeled 'windowed mode'.
[04:55] <Toby_W> no
[04:55] <bertu> ok
[04:55] <Toby_W> doesn't seem to recognise sound card
[04:55] <snorre> oskude: I installed gcc 3.4
[04:55] <thomas_> how to make this ?
[04:55] <bertu> what sound card do you have?
[04:56] <bertu> !GStreamer
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> snorre: okay, type this sudo bash (enter your password) then source /etc/profile
[04:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about GStreamer - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:56] <thomas_> UltraMagnus: How to do this ?
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> snorre: then, get in the directory of the driver, and make clean && make
[04:56] <Toby_W> not sure but had Windows 2000 Pro installed and worked fine
[04:56] <Turtlewind> fyrestrtr - I don't see one market 'windowed mode'; I unticked the one marked 'emulate a virtual desktop' and it didn't work
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> thomas_: /msg nickserv help password
[04:56] <oskude> snorre, sorry i won (cant) help with that... (you need to "link" that, change environment variables)
[04:56] <bertu> but 5.1/7.1 what?
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> Turtlewind: is there, somewhere. I forgot the exact text of it.
[04:56] <Turtlewind> well; it did work in that it gave me full-screen with 3/4 of it black, rather than a window on the desktop
[04:57] <snorre> fyrestrtr: done
[04:57] <Toby_W> installed on Compaq Armada 7400 problem doesn't exist on iMac 350
[04:57] <bertu> look at this Toby_W https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards?highlight=%28sound%29
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> okay, now you should have a module in that directory. Check if you have it.
[04:58] <bertu> brb ppl
[04:58] <Toby_W> using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - the Dapper Drake release
[04:58] <Toby_W> ok thanks will take look
[04:58] <snorre> fyrestrtr: what should I look for?
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> snorre: try ls *.ko
[04:59] <thomas_> REGISTER anerinhof
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> not sure what is called
[04:59] <snorre> fyrestrtr: napa.ko
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> snorre: that's it, you have it.
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> now modprobe -a sd_mod && insmod napa.ko
[05:00] <fyrestrtr> if that works, do this cp napa.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/scsi/
[05:00] <snorre> fyrestrtr: insmod: error inserting 'napa.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[05:01] <fyrestrtr> hrmm.
[05:01] <snorre> fyrestrtr: Promise told me that I should make sure that I had the "SCSI module" loaded as well, whatever that means?
[05:01] <fyrestrtr> snorre: not sure to be honest.
[05:02] <Toby_W> bertu where would sound card most likely be
[05:02] <snorre> fyrestrtr: Ok, did anything go wrong?
[05:03] <fyrestrtr> snorre: that would depend on the output of make.
[05:04] <abhinav> can any one tell me how to install samba?
[05:04] <eyequeue> sudo apt-get install samba
[05:04] <E_Jackyou_Later> abhinav: or, use synaptic
[05:04] <abhinav> thnx...
[05:05] <fyrestrtr> snorre: ask in #debian, just don't tell them you use ubuntu.
[05:05] <oskude> fyrestrtr, :)
[05:05] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, somewhat of a taboo over there?
[05:05] <santa99> someone know how to change the language of my ubuntu from german to english ?
[05:05] <fyrestrtr> snorre: because now you are reaching the limits of my kernel-module-build knowledge with ubuntu (did plenty of it in gentoo, only twice in ubuntu).
[05:06] <snorre> fyrestrtr: I did, but they refused to help since I used ubuntu
[05:06] <fyrestrtr> also, don't crack any password jokes in #debian. Something like '1234 .. amazing, that's the combination on my luggage!' won't be appreciated.
[05:06] <eyequeue> santa99, system > administration > language support
[05:06] <byen> Hey guys, my ubuntu does not recognize my usb flash drive and my external HDD
[05:06] <byen> where do i begin
[05:06] <notamisfit> fyrestrtr: gee i wonder why
[05:07] <santa99> eyequeue: so simple thx
[05:07] <eyequeue> santa99, np
[05:07] <Toby_W> worked out problem thanks bertu
[05:07] <sproingie> glass houses ... nothing keeping the same from happening to ubuntu
[05:07] <fyrestrtr> snorre: I guess you'll have to wait for someone that's got more experience with building modules. You have all the components there, I think you need the correct sources or something. Wrong format generally means you are trying to insert a module in a kernel it wasn't built for.
[05:07] <pierre-> hello. how can i make keyboard shortcut for some application/console command in gnome?
[05:08] <fyrestrtr> pierre-: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[05:08] <MrPockets> hey fellas, i put the GAIM icon up on my top toolbar, and used the GAIM command for it, but when i click it all it does is open a new version of GAIM,  how do i make it launch gaim if its not running, then just bring the gaim window to the front if it IS currently running?
[05:08] <eyequeue> looked into "module-assistant" yet?
[05:08] <pierre-> fyrestrtr: there are only shortcuts for gnome action
[05:08] <pierre-> fyrestrtr: *actions
[05:08] <fyrestrtr> eyequeue: the module is not in repos, that's the problem.
[05:08] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, ah, bummer
[05:08] <fyrestrtr> pierre-: hrmm, I thought I saw somewhere you could create your own shortcuts.
[05:08] <fyrestrtr> eyequeue: first place I looked ;)
[05:09] <fyrestrtr> santa99: install the language packs for german.
[05:09] <snorre> fyrestrtr: Ok, I see - thanks a lot for your help anyways! :)
[05:09] <MrPockets> hey fellas, i put the GAIM icon up on my top toolbar, and used the GAIM command for it, but when i click it all it does is open a new version of GAIM,  how do i make it launch gaim if its not running, then just bring the gaim window to the front if it IS currently running?
[05:09] <Chetic> uhm.. is there limewire for linux?
[05:09] <fyrestrtr> snorre: yw, and sorry it didn't work.
[05:10] <fyrestrtr> Chetic: frostwire.
[05:10] <bertu> bk
[05:10] <TARZEAU> Chetic: yes
[05:10] <Chetic> awesome fyrestrtr, thank you
[05:10] <pierre-> fyrestrtr: that's why i think xfce is much simplier than gnome :-)
[05:10] <Advant___> rpedro : you still around?
[05:10] <fyrestrtr> MrPockets: please don't repeat.
[05:10] <Toby_W> bertu thought i was done but wasn't
[05:10] <bertu> hey Toby_W did the wibsite help?
[05:10] <rpedro> Advant___: yep
[05:10] <bertu> lol what happened
[05:10] <Advant___> rpedro :  Is there a way to shrink the icon size in the toolbars?
[05:11] <MrPockets> fyrestrtr, my apologies.  accidently hit the arrow key.
[05:11] <Viper550> Hi Everybody!
[05:11] <Toby_W> yes found some answers but it says place name of sound card in modules folder in etc there isn't one...
[05:11] <pdanger> Early use of dapper: is it normal for lots of apps to close without warning?
[05:11] <rpedro> Advant___: dunno, but you can make display icons only I think
[05:11] <fyrestrtr> pdanger: ermm, no.
[05:11] <bertu> that all i know
[05:11] <Advant___> rpedro :  ok thanks
[05:11] <bertu> does it give u the same error?
[05:12] <Viper550> I've finally switched to Xchat-Gnome
[05:12] <Subhuman> Viper550, xchat-gnome has LESS features than xchat.
[05:12] <SurfnKid> Viper550, hope it doesnt crash
[05:12] <Subhuman> Viper550, its a crippled version of xchat.
[05:12] <Viper550> really? I switched from Konversation
[05:12] <Subhuman> Viper550, get the normal xchat.
[05:12] <notamisfit> go with BitchX, can't fail there
[05:13] <SurfnKid> Viper550, it crashed on the first start, never started again, it just hung,  i removed it, but you can try it and see :)
[05:13] <Subhuman> notamisfit, BitchX again is like a bad irssi
[05:13] <Subhuman> irssi and xchat ftw :P
[05:13] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: I thought (and hoped) not - google earth, totem, VLC all doing it
[05:13] <Toby_W> have found 'modutils'
[05:13] <disasm> or irssi, can't go wrong with irssi ;-)
[05:13] <Toby_W> that's all though
[05:13] <Viper550> I actually used irssi a little when I used Ubuntu 5.10
[05:13] <SurfnKid> irrsi rok
[05:13] <notamisfit> Subhuman: yeah, but the name is so damn cool
[05:13] <bertu> mmmmm
[05:14] <fyrestrtr> pdanger: what do you mean exactly closing automatically?
[05:14] <eyequeue> bx is 99% annoying quit messages, 1% skriptkiddie client, imo
[05:14] <sproingie> i was seriously put off by gnome-xchat
[05:14] <bertu> that all i can help Toby_W sry
[05:14] <sproingie> it doesn't even have a way to identify to nickserv
[05:14] <SurfnKid> sproingie, me too
[05:14] <santa99> fyrestrtr: i need the english one do i have to load them with synaptic and how are the language packs are named ?
[05:15] <Viper550> Ahh, yes it does
[05:15] <bertu> even i have a problem because i have 5.1 and only from 2 spks sound comes out
[05:15] <fyrestrtr> santa99: what do you want translated? gnome, openoffice, or just want to spell check in german?
[05:15] <Toby_W> i get as far as 'alsamixer' highlighted but am not sure what to do next
[05:15] <afm\colossus_> hello all :) - is there a repository for Xgl from CVS for ubuntu dapper?
[05:15] <Viper550> I think it's in Universe
[05:15] <santa99> fyrestrtr: i want the whole system in english
[05:15] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: /msg nickserv identify passwd <-- what is so difficult about that? :)
[05:15] <bertu> lets seee
[05:15] <fyrestrtr> !xgl > afm\colossus_
[05:16] <bertu> does the alsa mixer help?
[05:16] <fyrestrtr> santa99: in english, or german?
[05:16] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: right, and it would be nice if gnome-xchat supported some way of sending that automatically
[05:16] <azcazandco> anyone know if it is possible to do remote desktop to my server without logging in to it first?
[05:16] <Toby_W> according to it i have a sound card and it works
[05:16] <Viper550> You can do automatic nickserv on xchat-gnome
[05:16] <santa99> fyrestrtr: now my system is all in german and i want to change it in english
[05:16] <afm\colossus_> fyrestrtr: thx, i'll try my luck there
[05:16] <sproingie> Viper550: they hid it pretty well
[05:16] <afflux> hallo....
[05:16] <fyrestrtr> santa99: ooooh, I thought you wanted the other way around. lol
[05:16] <Viper550> Yeah, server settings
[05:16] <bertu> brb again
[05:17] <santa99> fyrestrtr: no from german to an english system
[05:17] <dfd> hello
[05:17] <sproingie> using konversation right now, though it still doesn't have one nice feature chatzilla has of all things
[05:17] <sproingie> namely conference mode
[05:17] <fyrestrtr> santa99: try sudo apt-get install language-pack-gnome-en language-pack-en
[05:17] <ubuntu> im trying to install ubuntu
[05:18] <ubuntu> and it says X server wont work
[05:18] <bertu> bk
[05:18] <ubuntu> i have PCI-E graphics card
[05:18] <Dr4g> ubuntu, i used ubuntu 6.06 and it didnt give me any X issues.
[05:18] <Viper550> Just select Freenode in the Networks list in Preferences, click edit, and type in your password. Konversation does it the same way
[05:18] <sproingie> Ubuntu: pastebin the error you get
[05:18] <azcazandco> any ideas folks?
[05:18] <Ubuntu-installer> i once got the X to work?
[05:18] <Viper550> But I like xchat-gnome because it has spelling correction dynamically!
[05:19] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: Google earth and VLC just close as if I've clicked quit, Totem tells me it's crashed; lets me click ok
[05:19] <Dr4g> azcazandco: re-type last msg
[05:19] <azcazandco> is doign ym head in having to swicth my monitor over to login first
[05:19] <afflux> [dapper] : can't write to CD-R... (command: sudo /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hdd speed=40 -dao driveropts=burnfree -eject -data /home/k/k3b_image.iso) | Error trying to open /dev/hdd exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[05:19] <sproingie> Viper550: so password is to nickserv?  i'm used to that meaning password to log on to a secured irc network
[05:19] <Toby_W> bertu really confused says error but plays music...?!!
[05:19] <afflux> used the command from k3b
[05:19] <azcazandco> anyone know if it is possible to do remote desktop to my server without logging in to it first?
[05:19] <Ubuntu-installer> sproingie: it just says cannot start X
[05:19] <Ubuntu-installer> it once worked
[05:19] <Ubuntu-installer> with 386 version
[05:19] <fyrestrtr> pdanger: does synaptic report any broken packages?
[05:19] <Ubuntu-installer> im now using AMD64 release?
[05:19] <bertu> is music playing?
[05:19] <Dr4g> !remote desktop
[05:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about remote desktop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:19] <sproingie> Ubuntu: what about what it says in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:19] <bertu> so just leave it as it is eh?
[05:19] <fyrestrtr> azcazandco: you want remote console (ssh) or remote desktop (gdm + x)?
[05:19] <Viper550> sproingie: Enter nickserv password next to "Nickserv Password"
[05:19] <Toby_W> yeah, strange right...#
[05:20] <Ubuntu-installer> sproingie lemme check
[05:20] <azcazandco> Dr4g: is only internally
[05:20] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: not that i know of; can i get it to check?
[05:20] <azcazandco> i have a headless box sitting beside me
[05:20] <snorre> How do I install X on Ubuntu 6.06 Server?
[05:20] <andreasberg> i would kde progs looks like a gtk prog
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> pdanger: it will tell you at the bottom status screen.
[05:20] <bertu> hey does someone know how to boot linux from an external device
[05:20] <eyequeue> santa99, sudo apt-get install language-pack-en-base
[05:20] <Dr4g> well azcazandco afaik, you need to accept the incoming VNC connection
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> snorre: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:20] <Distro^Junkie> anyone know of a way to get a microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse to work ?
[05:20] <Ubuntu-installer> sproingie: LOTS of things?
[05:20] <Dr4g> Unless its set ot auto-accept which i don't know how to do
[05:20] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: in gnome? no nothing like that
[05:20] <Dr4g> azcazandco: ^^#
[05:20] <notamisfit> snorre: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg?
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> snorre: just X, or the entire thing X+gnome+etc
[05:20] <azcazandco> I have it set to autoaccept
[05:20] <eyequeue> santa99, sudo apt-get install language-pack-en-gnome-base too or kde-base
[05:20] <johlin> How do I stop dhcp3 from updating my nameservers?
[05:20] <santa99> fyrestrtr: this packages are installed how can i activate them
[05:21] <azcazandco> but you need to be logged in first
[05:21] <Ubuntu-installer> ill maybe look for (EE)
[05:21] <sproingie> Ubuntu-installer: pastebin can handle it.  EE is probably all you need tho
[05:21] <Toby_W> i guess i just leave it if it works fine, hey bertu! :-)
[05:21] <Dr4g> azcazandco: then you should be able to do it
[05:21] <Toby_W> thanks for help
[05:21] <Dr4g> I don't see any reason why not.
[05:21] <bertu> if i were you i just leave it
[05:21] <bertu> np
[05:21] <Ubuntu-installer> sproingie: No Devices Detected?
[05:21] <azcazandco> think i need a user logged in first
[05:21] <azcazandco> I cant just turn the box on then login
[05:21] <Stormx2> how good would ubuntu be at, say, connecting to an RM network at a school?
[05:21] <Ubuntu-installer> (EE) No devices detected.
[05:22] <bertu> Hey does someone know how to boot from  AN external device?
[05:22] <sproingie> Viper550: ugh, that's embarassing.  oh well, i'm piddling around in kde right now so konversation works for me too
[05:22] <fyrestrtr> santa99: system > administration > language support
[05:22] <eyequeue> Stormx2, what is rm?
[05:22] <Stormx2> its a company
[05:22] <sproingie> Ubuntu-installer: what kind of card do you have in there?
[05:22] <bertu> booting ubuntu
[05:22] <Stormx2> which supplies computers to schools
[05:22] <Ubuntu-installer> sponix Ati Radeon X800 PCI-E
[05:22] <Ubuntu-installer> should be supported?
[05:22] <Brew-no> If I have a laptop that gets a wireless network and a Desktop that doesn't and an ethernet cable, can I share the internet with the Desktop?
[05:22] <eyequeue> Stormx2, is it not ethernet, this rm network?
[05:22] <fyrestrtr> Ubuntu-installer: is it a laptop?
[05:23] <Stormx2> hmm
[05:23] <sproingie> Ubuntu-installer: i'm not sure the free ati driver can handle it.  try fglrx
[05:23] <santa99> eyequeue: i have all the packages
[05:23] <Ubuntu-installer> fyrestrtr: desktop computer
[05:23] <Ubuntu-installer> ok ill try fglrx :I
[05:23] <Stormx2> i get the impression i'd need to use samba
[05:23] <santa99> fyrestrtr: do i have to restart my machine ?
[05:23] <snorre> notamisfit: thanks, how do I change the default init level to start X at default?
[05:23] <fyrestrtr> santa99: I'm not sure.
[05:23] <snorre> fyrestrtr: the entire thing please :)
[05:23] <Noxman> is there a way to get wmv files to play in 6.06?
[05:23] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: i see now - synaptic bottom status bar = 18843 packages listed, 1441 installed, 0 broken, 0 to install/upgrade, 0 to remove
[05:23] <Noxman> or are the codecs still broken?
[05:23] <santa99> fyrestrtr: I will try restart maybe something changes
[05:23] <bertu> get restriced drivers Noxman
[05:24] <fyrestrtr> snorre: then you need ubuntu-desktop for gnome, kubuntu-desktop for kde, and xubuntu-desktop for xfce
[05:24] <eyequeue> santa99, ah, then yes ,that menu command should be your need
[05:24] <sproingie> snorre: ln -s /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[05:24] <tyler-wylie> Hrm
[05:24] <Noxman> bertu i've installed them
[05:24] <fyrestrtr> pdanger: the best suggestion I can give you is to launch the applications from the console and see what messages they give.
[05:24] <bertu> !restricted
[05:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <tyler-wylie> How do I double check if my cd-rom is capable of writing CD'd
[05:24] <tyler-wylie> CD's*
[05:24] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: cool, i'll try - thanx
[05:25] <bertu> what player do you have Noxman
[05:25] <santa99> eyequeue: what menu command ?
[05:25] <fyrestrtr> pdanger: also worth a look is /var/log/messages :)
[05:25] <Noxman> VLC and totem
[05:25] <fyrestrtr> tyler-wylie: look at the front for symbols.
[05:25] <StAnLeY^> tyler-wylie: try to write a cd/read the label of the cd drive
[05:25] <Noxman> haven't tried mplayer yert
[05:25] <eyequeue> santa99, system > administration > language
[05:25] <Noxman> -tr
[05:25] <sproingie> anyone have recommendations on picasa-like photo album apps?
[05:25] <Noxman> damn typos
[05:25] <sproingie> i tried picasa for linux, that was a crashfest
[05:25] <bertu> Is Toby_W here?
[05:25] <santa99> eyequeue: yeah my mistake was that i didnt make a restart
[05:25] <fyrestrtr> tyler-wylie: or check what your system detects it as.
[05:25] <snorre> fyrestrtr: ok, thanks
[05:26] <Noxman> I've installed gstreamer plugins
[05:26] <bertu> ok
[05:26] <CaveTrog> Newbie here...can someone answer guestions related to local attached printer under linux & how to make visible to windows boxes on network?
[05:26] <santa99> eyequeue: after a restart everything worked
[05:26] <tyler-wylie> fyrestrtr: hwo do I check that
[05:26] <Ubuntu-installer> how did you enable FLGRX drivers?
[05:26] <santa99> eyequeue: thx for your help
[05:26] <fyrestrtr> sponix: f-spot
[05:26] <eyequeue> santa99, glad it is working now
[05:26] <Ubuntu-installer> what was the trick to enable them
[05:26] <snorre> sproingie: is that also necessary to set even if I installed ubuntu-desktop?
[05:26] <s|k> if I have ntfs on one drive, and fat32 on another, will the fat32 drive windows installation see the files on the ntfs drive?
[05:26] <fyrestrtr> tyler-wylie: system > administration > device manager
[05:26] <azcazandco> is there a package to install gimpshop on ubuntu?
[05:26] <Ubuntu-installer> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:26] <sproingie> Ubuntu-installer: sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:26] <johlin> s|k: yes, I can't see why not
[05:27] <Ubuntu-installer> sproingie allready did that
[05:27] <s|k> ok
[05:27] <Ubuntu-installer> now i need to make it use that
[05:27] <Noxman> hmm.. oh i need some win32 codecs
[05:27] <sproingie> Ubuntu-installer: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, look for the string "ati" in there and replace it with "fglrx"
[05:27] <Ubuntu-installer> sproingie thanks
[05:27] <sproingie> Ubuntu-installer: bear in mind that this doesn't give you 3d accelleration, you need linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) for that
[05:27] <fyrestrtr> Ubuntu-installer: follow the instructions here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:28] <Ubuntu-installer> lol stupids :-D
[05:28] <Ubuntu-installer> im just installing ubuntu
[05:28] <Ubuntu-installer> i wanna use the graphic installer ;)
[05:28] <eyequeue> what does fglrx stand for?
[05:29] <Distro^Junkie> anyone know of a way to get a microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse to work ?
[05:29] <sproingie> eyequeue: fireGL RX where the X means something like R300 or R350
[05:29] <eyequeue> sproingie, thanks
[05:29] <sproingie> eyequeue: ATI's 3d tech comes from when they bought FireGL
[05:29] <eyequeue> sproingie, makes more sense now
[05:29] <bertu> mmm i dont think they're compatible bcos the are only for microsoft stuff *I THINK*
[05:30] <fyrestrtr> Distro^Junkie: they work 'out of the box' for me.
[05:30] <Distro^Junkie> hmmm
[05:30] <sproingie> bertu: of course they work
[05:31] <bertu> i just gave my opinion ;)
[05:31] <bertu> hey does someone know how to boot linux from an external device?
[05:31] <eyequeue> Distro^Junkie, i heard they emulate ps2 style kb and mouse
[05:31] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: running VLC from terminal results in lots of errors when I try to open a DVD - can i copy them to you somehow?
[05:31] <Ubuntu-installer> thanks
[05:31] <sproingie> Distro^Junkie: it should just work out of the box.  the various extra keys probably won't work though
[05:31] <Ubuntu-installer> it works now
[05:31] <fyrestrtr> pdanger: use pastebin
[05:31] <Distro^Junkie> ok thanx
[05:32] <Distro^Junkie> its for a friend
[05:32] <CaveTrog> Help needed: related to local attached printer under linux & how to make visible to windows boxes on network?
[05:32] <bertu> hey does someone know how to boot linux from an external device
[05:32] <bertu> ???????????/
[05:32] <sproingie> i'm rather impressed by the way the ati drivers are in 6.06.  maybe ati will catch up to nvidia on the crappy-closed-drivers front
[05:33] <sproingie> i kinda wish the r300 drivers were easily available tho
[05:33] <johlin> how do I stop the dhcp client from updating the list of nameservers? please
[05:33] <eyequeue> bertu, first, the bios would need to be capable of booting from this "external device"   configure that
[05:33] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: I hope you mean ati's control panel, because nvidia makes far superior drivers than ati for linux.
[05:33] <bertu> ok
[05:34] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: actually no, the driver performance itself.  still isn't there yet, but it's improved a lot
[05:34] <CaveTrog> Only thing left to make final transition to linux..want off windows permanently!!!!
[05:34] <bertu> ok its for a friend
[05:34] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: #pastebin ? - how do i use pastebin?
[05:34] <sproingie> !pastebin
[05:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:35] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: I have found over various linux distros that nvidia's drivers far outperform those from ati, especially for gaming. For example WoW has all kinds of problems with ati (major artifacts) while with nvidia -- no issues at all. Go figure.
[05:35] <notamisfit> fyrestrtr: so has nearly everyone else
[05:35] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: hm, i don't do games on linux.  just noticing how much zippier blender is now
[05:35] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: tho i guess that may also have to do with the snappier kernel in 6.06
[05:35] <Toma-> CaveTrog: look into Samba! not the dance, but the network protocol
[05:35] <Toma-> !samba
[05:35] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:36] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: I'd say its more to the kernel and less the ati drivers.
[05:36] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: i'm just hoping the r300 project can get more momentum, since there's nothing equivalent at all for nvidia cards these days
[05:36] <fyrestrtr> CaveTrog: although dancing does help.
[05:36] <lightstep> hi. i'm trying to update my system, but "apt-get update" always finds that there were no changes in the main ubuntu repositories
[05:36] <CaveTrog> Toma...is that required for win boxes to see my prnt under linux.
[05:36] <fyrestrtr> lightstep: you need apt-get upgrade
[05:36] <lightstep> this is so for a few months now
[05:36] <bertu> how do you make it capable of booting from the external device but?
[05:37] <sproingie> lightstep: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:37] <eyequeue> lightstep, how do you mean "upgrade"?
[05:37] <notamisfit> bertu: change the boot order in BIOS?
[05:37] <Toma-> CaveTrog: afaik, (and thats not alot on the subject) yes. keep asking around tho
[05:37] <lightstep> fyrestrtr, no, i already did this long ago
[05:37] <bertu> look
[05:37] <Chetic> When I try to run frostwire I get this message: "OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE." but I have installed packages like sun-java5-* and kaffe... Help! :\
[05:37] <bertu> i make it first cd rom
[05:37] <lightstep> eyequeue, i want all my programs in the newest version
[05:37] <fyrestrtr> lightstep: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:37] <eyequeue> lightstep, are you looking to change from one release to another?
[05:37] <lightstep> sproingie, dapper drake
[05:37] <bertu> 2nd hdd u third external eh?
[05:37] <fyrestrtr> Chetic: configure java (read the bottom half of the java wiki entry)
[05:38] <Chetic> which wiki, fyrestrtr?
[05:38] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: terminal output in pastebin under pdanger
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> !java
[05:38] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:38] <notamisfit> bertu: might want to put external before hdd, else itll never boot
[05:38] <sproingie> lightstep: huh.  well the main distribution won't have many updates, but the updates and security mirrors should
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> Chetic: ^ that wiki entry
[05:38] <bertu> ok
[05:38] <CaveTrog> OK...is there docs somewhere on how to do it?
[05:38] <eyequeue> lightstep, dapper is the current stable release, do you have dapper-upgrades in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:38] <Chetic> thanks fyrestrtr :p
[05:38] <lightstep> eyequeue, yes, i do
[05:38] <CaveTrog> Install Samba that is.
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> pdanger: paste the link in here please.
[05:38] <lightstep> with main, restricted, universe and mutiverse
[05:39] <Toma-> ubotu: tell CaveTrog about samba
[05:39] <sproingie> know what i want in an irc client?  a way to write live ignore/exclusive filters as i type, just in a little text widget
[05:39] <eyequeue> lightstep, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse    o meant
[05:39] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18007
[05:39] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: irssi :)
[05:39] <gmoore> anyone ever use XDeep32 as an X client for Windows? my Ubuntu box is headless so i'd like to try something to connect to it with; i was previously using NX but i have a server install of ubuntu now with no windowmanager so i dont think NX will work.
[05:39] <Toma-> CaveTrog: did u get a message from ubotu?
[05:39] <sproingie> i could search back for "what did this guy say" by just typing the guy's nick
[05:39] <lightstep> eyequeue, i should say perhaps that i can install new programs successfully
[05:40] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: how would one do that in irssi?
[05:40] <eyequeue> lightstep, presuming you also have secirity in there, you should be current then
[05:40] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: /help ignore
[05:40] <CaveTrog> Toma/ubotu...I'm new to linux...be gentle...no did not here from ubotu.
[05:40] <lightstep> eyequeue, this isn't reasonable. it's been months
[05:40] <Toma-> CaveTrog: watch what ubotu says in this channel
[05:40] <Chetic> uhm fyrestrtr, I don't get which part to read... I've already done the install part...
[05:40] <Toma-> !samba
[05:40] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:40] <fyrestrtr> pdanger: what kind of video card do you have?
[05:40] <eyequeue> lightstep, and there have been no security upgrades there?  that is certainly odd
[05:40] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: no, that's way too simple.  let's say i want to search for everything you've said by filtering the display for only lines containing "fyrestr".  i just want to start typing that and have my display narrow to show those lines
[05:40] <fyrestrtr> Chetic: down near the bottom, where it says 'switch to the new vm'
[05:41] <bertu> notamisfit: I don't have an option for external hdd or fire wire in the bios? what can i do ?
[05:41] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: you are too spoiled by ajax :P
[05:41] <lightstep> yes, it is
[05:41] <bertu> notamisfit: i mean the boot sequence
[05:41] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: maybe i could write it as a plugin.  god knows i hate the irc protocol enough that i don't want to write a new client
[05:41] <eyequeue> sproingie, on many irc clients, "/lastlog firestr" would do what you want
[05:41] <santa99> where lies the sources.list ?
[05:41] <notamisfit> bertu: not really my forte, but you might need a bios upgrade to boot from usb/1394
[05:41] <Chetic> Thank you fyrestrtr!
[05:41] <fyrestrtr> santa99: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <CaveTrog> ubotu...is SWAT part of Samba?
[05:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu...is SWAT part of Samba? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:42] <bertu> mmm ok
[05:42] <fyrestrtr> CaveTrog: no :)
[05:42] <bertu> 10x ill try it
[05:42] <eyequeue> sproingie, see if you have the /lastlog commmand before you exert too much effort
[05:42] <sproingie> eyequeue: yah, a clicky way of doing lastlog would be neat.  oh well.  and nope, no /lastlog in konversation
[05:43] <colk> then use xchat
[05:43] <javiolo> I downloaded the alternate ubuntu cd, what installation I need if I want ubuntu withouth gnome ?
[05:43] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: I suspect you'd have to enable logging for lastlog to work.
[05:43] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: server
[05:43] <UltraMagnus> hi, can anyone help me please? when i click "check" on the "software updates" menu i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17999
[05:43] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: naw it says no such command
[05:43] <Toma-> CaveTrog: ubotu is smart, but its not clever ;) you need to teach it things. (its a robot that spits out handy bit of info)
[05:43] <colk> sproingie, then use xchat it has it
[05:43] <Toma-> !info
[05:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about info - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:43] <javiolo> fyrestrtr but the server install will come with apache, php and mysql riight ?
[05:43] <lightstep> oh, i have only main in dapper-security
[05:43] <Toma-> meh
[05:43] <tyler-wylie> What's a good p2p client to intall for ubuntu?
[05:43] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu
[05:43] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:43] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: that's the 'lamp server' install.
[05:44] <javiolo> tyler-wylie amule, azureus...
[05:44] <skavenge> !p2p
[05:44] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[05:44] <eyequeue> lightstep, aha, that explains it
[05:44] <fyrestrtr> tyler-wylie: frostwire, amule, azureus, freeloader
[05:44] <CaveTrog> OK....will take off in search of info...thanks for help Toma.
[05:44] <javiolo> fyrstrtr sorry dont know whats lamp server...
[05:44] <javiolo> fyrestrtr sorry dont know whats lamp server...
[05:44] <Toma-> CaveTrog: np! only wish i could have a definitive answer :/
[05:44] <eyequeue> lightstep, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:44] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: Linux Apache MySQL PHP = LAMP
[05:44] <ubuntu-installer> PCI-E ati card wont work with ubuntu installer by default
[05:44] <sproingie> oh hey, i can browse the factoid db on the web?
[05:44] <ubuntu-installer> you guys should fix it
[05:45] <sproingie> how nice.  all this time i've been endlessly /querying the bot
[05:45] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: the alternative disk has an option to set up a server with all those components.
[05:45] <CaveTrog> Thanks Toma...at least it gives me a place to start.
[05:45] <javiolo> fyrestrtr but If I dont want LAMP ?
[05:45] <Toma-> sproingie: you bet
[05:45] <lightstep> eyequeue, hmm, that (unexpectedly) didn't fix it
[05:45] <ubuntu-installer> i wonder if its ok to use APT-GET while installing Ubuntu :D
[05:45] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: well if you just do the server install, you will get the minimal packages required for servers. Then you can install apache, mysql and php as you like.
[05:45] <javiolo> fyrestrtr I just want a clean ubuntu
[05:45] <sproingie> ubuntu-installer: while the installer is running?  not possible, it won't get the lock.
[05:45] <eyequeue> lightstep, after any sources.list changes, sudo apt-get update, and then you should sudo apt-get upgrade for this situation
[05:46] <javiolo> fyrestrtr I dont want to make a server, jsut dekstop
[05:46] <ubuntu-installer> sproingie ya but it did :D
[05:46] <ubuntu-installer> the install got paused :o
[05:46] <sproingie> ubuntu-installer: you get to keep both pieces
[05:46] <Xfuser> how can i change the owner and the permissions of a folder and all its subfolders and files ? using the properties window the changes just apply to the folder itself... im on ubuntu dapper with gnome
[05:46] <ubuntu-installer> but after xmms was installed it continued
[05:46] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: from xorg.conf = Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 300/305 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter - it an 8mb vga card
[05:46] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: you want just a desktop, but without gnome?
[05:46] <notamisfit> Xfuser: man chown, man chmod
[05:46] <ubuntu-installer> it was "copying files phase"
[05:46] <ubuntu-installer> i had to install xmms to listen some music :<
[05:46] <javiolo> fyrestrtr I want to use fluxbox
[05:46] <ubuntu-installer> javiolo good
[05:47] <ubuntu-installer> it owns
[05:47] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: install server, then install xubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <Toma-> *sigh* for every kernel update, i have to rebuild my damn drivers, kill links and re-order links. darn ati_agp drivers :|
[05:47] <notamisfit> that's proprietary crap for ya
[05:47] <ubuntu-installer> does this have 3d-acceleration?
[05:47] <ubuntu-installer> the fglrx?
[05:47] <Distro^Junkie> hmmm friend says the wireless keyboard and mouse won't even work on the live cd
[05:47] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu-installer: yes
[05:47] <javiolo> fyrestrtr but I undertood you, server comes with LAMP
[05:47] <azureal> hi, what's the command to list all your /dev devices?
[05:47] <ubuntu-installer> fyrestrtr THATS COOL! :>
[05:48] <colk> i actuall had to move my keyboard and mouse to a diffrent usb hub
[05:48] <eyequeue> ls /dev/
[05:48] <colk> for some reason they didnt work in the live cd at all
[05:48] <ubuntu-installer> lol ubuntus xmms has debian skin ;)
[05:48] <colk> on one hub
[05:48] <azureal> eyequeue: no, i mean the connected ones
[05:48] <Toma-> ls /dev will giove you lots of rubbish
[05:48] <azureal> it's not lsusb... but i think it's something similar
[05:48] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: no, you mis-understood me. 'server' is a bare-bones install. Only the critical files needed. 'lamp server' is a special install with apache, mysql and php. For your situation, from the cd, install the 'server' setup, then install xubuntu-desktop to get xfce.
[05:49] <eyequeue> lsdev (8)            - display information about installed hardware
[05:49] <fyrestrtr> pdanger: I think your problem is that the video card doesn't have enough ram to do any graphics heavy stuff (like vlc, dvd playing and google earth).
[05:49] <azureal> hmm... lsdev doesnt work
[05:49] <grogoreo> hi
[05:49] <javiolo> fyrestrtr ok I think i will not install xubuntu just fluxbox
[05:49] <eyequeue> azureal, as root even?
[05:49] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: xubuntu *is* fluxbox :)
[05:50] <skavenge> ...
[05:50] <eyequeue> azureal, it works as user here though
[05:50] <ubuntu-installer> why does the Live/Install CD not work with ATI:s?
[05:50] <azureal> yes, no such command
[05:50] <ubuntu-installer> it wont use fglrx by default
[05:50] <javiolo> fyrestrtr isnt that xfce ???
[05:50] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu-installer: because its a restricted driver.
[05:50] <ubuntu-installer> unbtu looses lots of users becose of that
[05:50] <javiolo> Im confused now
[05:50] <ubuntu-installer> like my dad
[05:50] <notamisfit> ubuntu-installer: take it up with ati
[05:50] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: oh yeah, sorry. I mis-spoke.
[05:50] <eyequeue> azureal, procinfo: /usr/bin/lsdev
[05:50] <skavenge> thank ATI for that, not linux
[05:50] <ubuntu-installer> damn ATI
[05:50] <grogoreo> in the apache2 config file it says under UserDir that is's now a module but when looking for it on apt there is only an LDAP one: libapache2-mod-ldap-userdir. How can I get this to work?
[05:51] <ubuntu-installer> im so gonna kill them all >:[
[05:51] <eyequeue> azureal, sudo apt-get install procinfo
[05:51] <javiolo> fyrestrtr ok thanks!
[05:51] <ubuntu-installer> ATI:s proucts sux ATI:s drivers sux
[05:51] <fyrestrtr> grogoreo: read the README file in /etc/apache
[05:51] <ubuntu-installer> everything about ATI SUX
[05:51] <Shakezula> ubuntu-installer, Amen to that.
[05:51] <ubuntu-installer> ATI = SUX
[05:51] <fyrestrtr> azureal: lspci ;)
[05:51] <pdanger> fyrestrtr: really? right, Ive got a 2nd vga card in the box that dapper detected but didnt install so il play with that - thanx again
[05:51] <azureal> fyrestrtr: eh, that's not the pretty output
[05:52] <fyrestrtr> azureal: "pretty" output?
[05:52] <shriphani> how do i covert mp3 to vorbis ?
[05:52] <azureal> it's supposed to give a bunch of lines such as /dev/sba1 .... device...
[05:52] <fyrestrtr> azureal: lspci -vv ;)
[05:52] <snorre> how do I change the default screen resolution in X?
[05:52] <fyrestrtr> oh you want *that* kind of output.
[05:52] <eyequeue> mp32ogg (1)          - Convert MP3 to Ogg Vorbis
[05:52] <Narada> When I start X it says: cannot run in framebuffer mode.  Any idea?
[05:52] <grogoreo> fyrestrtr, the readme has nothing but descriptions of the files and folders the the directory
[05:52] <fyrestrtr> snorre: edit the xorg.conf file.
[05:53] <fyrestrtr> grogoreo: did you read the entire file?
[05:53] <shriphani> is it there in the repos ?
[05:53] <eyequeue> shriphani, yes
[05:53] <grogoreo> fyrestrtr, it's only 82 lines
[05:53] <Narada> Also what is the init script to restart X?
[05:53] <shriphani> thanks
[05:53] <fyrestrtr> grogoreo: that's not what I asked.
[05:53] <grogoreo> fyrestrtr, yes I did
[05:53] <fyrestrtr> grogoreo: it that file, it tells you how to activate the modules, you need to read it.
[05:53] <fyrestrtr> Narada: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:54] <eyequeue> shriphani, it's in universe though, Filename: pool/universe/m/mp32ogg/mp32ogg_0.11-6_all.deb
[05:54] <Narada> fyrestrtr: for kde?
[05:54] <shriphani> its downloading now
[05:54] <eyequeue> !repos
[05:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:54] <Narada> kdm?
[05:54] <fyrestrtr> Narada: kdm
[05:54] <dron> Anyone knows if broadcom wireless 43xx card works in monitor mode if im using ndiswrapper? btw, bcm43xx module is working fine now in 2.6.15-26 kernel?
[05:54] <shriphani> i got univ enabled
[05:54] <Redman276> how would i go about adding KDE desktop  int an already  existing   stable  Gnome  desktop system
[05:55] <eyequeue> shriphani, sudo apt-get install mp32ogg, should cover you then
[05:55] <snorre> fyrestrtr: under Section "Screen" ?
[05:55] <shriphani> done
[05:55] <Redman276> i apologize if  my  RH years   are showing through
[05:55] <shriphani> is it mmand line stuff ?
[05:55] <shriphani> command^
[05:55] <skavenge> yes it is
[05:55] <eyequeue> Redman276, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <snorre> fyrestrtr: I only get 640x480...
[05:55] <skavenge> mp34ogg blah.mp3 blah.ogg
[05:55] <shriphani> ok
[05:56] <Redman276> and that ill allow me to change  session  at   login point
[05:56] <Narada> fyrestrtr: doesn't exist
[05:56] <shriphani> can it be blah.vorbis ?
[05:56] <eyequeue> Redman276, yes
[05:56] <Redman276> ty so much
[05:56] <ubuntu-installer> ubuntu installer should also mount your windows partition and open XMMS and ask "Choose the music you wanna play during installation"
[05:56] <fyrestrtr> snorre: yes, in SubSection "Display" it will have entries for each color depth, check your default color depth (DefaultDepth) and for that entry, add the screen resolution to the Modes line.
[05:56] <ubuntu-installer> nice idea
[05:56] <skavenge> shriphani: uh the vorbis extension is .ogg .. hence 'ogg vorbis'
[05:56] <shriphani> ok
[05:56] <eyequeue> Redman276, it will pull in all the various dependences, etc, expect a huge d/l
[05:56] <SurfnKid> dron, monitor as in to scan APs?
[05:57] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu-installer: maybe it should make you toast as well?
[05:57] <dron> yes
[05:57] <SurfnKid> dron, mine scans sure. with ndiswrapper. using 4306 rev2  adapter miniPCI
[05:57] <dron> I suspect that with ndiswrapper it doesnt work
[05:57] <skavenge> my wireless is 43xx based, though im not using the kernel driver im using ndiswrapper .. wont go into monitor that i've tried with airsnort
[05:57] <SurfnKid> i have to check airsnort
[05:57] <SurfnKid> and snoop
[05:57] <fyrestrtr> snorre: goes without saying, make sure your hardware can support the resolution.
[05:58] <SurfnKid> not tried yet
[05:58] <shriphani> guys can anyone tell me why y wireless wont work
[05:58] <azureal> fyrestrtr, eyequeue: so you guys have an idea for what I'm looking for?
[05:58] <fyrestrtr> azureal: I sure don't.
[05:58] <fyrestrtr> azureal: mainly because I don't know what you asked.
[05:59] <sztanpet> how can i send a message to everyone on the console? like how shutdown -t now "msg" does
[05:59] <shriphani> i mean no matter how many times i do a sudo iwconfig eth1 set txpower auto it doesnt work
[05:59] <dron> skavenge: try to do iwconfig ethX enable monitor
[05:59] <jrib> sztanpet: wall
[05:59] <SurfnKid> shriphani, what adapter?
[05:59] <dron> what it says?
[05:59] <azureal> fyrestrtr: i want the output to show all the /dev/sd* devices
[05:59] <shriphani> broadcom
[05:59] <SurfnKid> 43xx?
[05:59] <sztanpet> jrib wall says it needs a file :D
[05:59] <shriphani> yes
[05:59] <eyequeue> wall (1)             - write a message to users
[05:59] <SurfnKid> mmm let me check
[05:59] <fyrestrtr> azureal: what are you trying to do?
[05:59] <finalbeta> Can tvtime be used with X11 forwarding (ssh)? :p
[05:59] <jrib> sztanpet: 'wall' and then type your message and then press ctrl-d
[06:00] <santa99> what driver should i install for a nVidia 5200 FX
[06:00] <sztanpet> jrib ahh ty
[06:00] <deFrysk> nvidia-glx
[06:00] <azureal> fyrestrtr: for now, see where this usb device is connected to...but i also want to remember that command =/
[06:00] <fyrestrtr> santa99: the nvidia driver, nvidia-glx.
[06:00] <SurfnKid> dron, what command are you using for iwconfig to enable monitor
[06:00] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia
[06:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:00] <snorre> fyrestrtr: Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" are defined for default screen, but I can still only select 640x480 ?
[06:01] <mattwestm> can I install dapper without a bootloader?
[06:01] <fyrestrtr> snorre: check the color depth.
[06:01] <skavenge> iwconfig eth0 enable monitor doesnt work
[06:01] <dron> iwconfig mode monitor
[06:01] <dron> sorry
[06:01] <santa99> fyrestrtr: ok is this the same like fglrx for ati ?
[06:01] <fyrestrtr> snorre: pastebin your xorg.conf
[06:01] <dron> iwconfig ethX mode monitor
[06:01] <fyrestrtr> santa99: not quite the same.
[06:01] <mattwestm> I already have a bootloader and I don't want it overwriting my other one
[06:01] <amortvigil> how can i adjust my screen resolution ?? in windows i can go upto 1200*1024 and in ubuntu 1024*700 hwo can i solve this?
[06:01] <skavenge> still doesnt work for me
[06:02] <fyrestrtr> amortvigil: what video card do you have?
[06:02] <snorre> fyrestrtr: DefaultDepth    24, and under SubSection "Display" Depth           24 Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" are defined
[06:02] <dron> http://www.wirelessdefence.org/Contents/LinuxWirelessCommands.htm
[06:02] <dron> thats i have found
[06:02] <amortvigil> fyrestrtr: and old ati form 1998
[06:03] <fyrestrtr> snorre: while in X, try ctrl+alt and the plus and minus keys from your numpad to cycle the resolutions.
[06:03] <sybec> Could anyone please explain to me what "hpiod" is ?
[06:03] <fyrestrtr> azureal: try usbview if its a usb device.
[06:03] <snorre> fyrestrtr: under Section "Monitor" only  Identifier      "Generic Monitor" and Option          "DPMS" are defined?
[06:03] <vieirar> Hi I am trying to get my USB Printer working this is what I get in the dmesg log.....
[06:03] <d> hi, im about to try get a USB adsl modem working over ubuntu that in windows, seems to require its own drives installed which "brings up the adsl" and then you can authenticate by "dialing up" - how would i do this in ubuntu? it is not a adsl router so i have to establish a connection via some form of dialup. will ubuntu reconize the usb modem when i plug it in?
[06:03] <vieirar> ppdev0: unregistered pardevice
[06:03] <fyrestrtr> snorre: you have a lcd or a crt monitor?
[06:03] <snorre> fyrestrtr: lcd
[06:03] <santa99> fyrestrtr: is there a similarly program to glx_gears by ati for nvidia to test if the driver installl worked
[06:03] <skavenge> my syntax is perfect it still errors for me .. maybe it doesnt work with ndiswrapper. dunno, all i know is my wireless works and finds the network heh
[06:04] <fyrestrtr> santa99: yes, when you install the driver, you will get it.
[06:04] <dron> skavenge: yes mine too, but i want monitor too :)
[06:04] <snorre> fyrestrtr: special one capable of up to 75Hz and 1440x900 resolution
[06:04] <santa99> fyrestrtr: ok
[06:04] <fyrestrtr> snorre: hrmm, what video card?
[06:04] <dron> and bcm43xx module seems not to work :(
[06:05] <skavenge> dron: maybe with the kernel driver .. i played with it, it detects the card but my network settings are foobar'd, works off the bat with ndiswrapper
[06:05] <SurfnKid> dron, maybe this card doesnt support monitoring,
[06:05] <snoops> with nautilus can I add on views? I'd really like to add a mac os x style view to it if that's possible?
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> amortvigil: try using the accelerated drivers with it, then adjust the resolutions in xorg.conf
[06:05] <SurfnKid> bcm43xx doesnt work for my setup either
[06:05] <skavenge> dron: you need the firmware for the kernel module to work, if you dont have it ..
[06:05] <SurfnKid> dron, i thought it did
[06:05] <azureal> fyrestrtr: so how do i know where it's connected to
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> azureal: one way is to tail -f /var/log/messages, unplug the device, plug it in, and watch the kernel messages.
[06:06] <dron> maybe.. maybe.. ok will try that. thanks
[06:06] <Stormx2> OK um, how do I view cookies from firefox?
[06:06] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[06:06] <skavenge> i kept getting errors in dmesg trying to load the bcm43xx module till i got the firmware off the net and through it in /lib/firmware or wherever it is
[06:06] <jdier> dumbass question alert:  What is the apt command to use if I want to remove all Open Office components from my machine
[06:06] <snorre> fyrestrtr: ctrl+alt and plus and minus keys didn't do anything
[06:06] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone tell me that in how much cds redhat 8 released (4 or 5)?
[06:06] <snorre> fyrestrtr: Matrox Millenium G450
[06:06] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2: Edit > Preferences > Privacy tab, then cookies tab, then click view cookies.
[06:06] <sybec> And could anyone *please* explain why netstat -tunap sais python is listening on port 60424 ?
[06:07] <skavenge> linuxboyfriend: probably #redhat
[06:07] <fyrestrtr> snorre: something is wrong with your x configuration.
[06:07] <fyrestrtr> sybec: are you running a torrent?
[06:07] <snorre> fyrestrtr: ok, how can I fix it then?
[06:07] <sybec> it's a fresh ubuntu install
[06:07] <fyrestrtr> snorre: well, before you do that, are you saving the file, and restarting X?
[06:08] <linuxboyfriend> skavenge: no one is answering there
[06:08] <numb3rs> my krfb crashes everytime, when i am using the same from windows system
[06:08] <akcom> Has anyone in here had any trouble getting the alternate CD to boot?
[06:08] <fyrestrtr> linuxboyfriend: look it up on redhat.com
[06:08] <POVaddct> sybec: looks like the hpiod
[06:08] <Stork> hmm, how do i tell if i have libsdl1.2debian-all on my 32-bit library path?
[06:08] <Dial_tone> is there a way to make certain filetypes appear a given color in ls output?
[06:08] <nalioth> akcom: did you burn it at 4x or less?
[06:08] <skavenge> linuxboyfriend: well i doubt anyone from an entirely different distribution is going to know
[06:08] <jdier> any one able to help me out with the apt command to use if I want to remove all Open Office components from my machine
[06:08] <nalioth> jdier: use synaptic
[06:08] <linuxboyfriend> fyrestrtr: lemme try
[06:08] <akcom> nalioth, no
[06:08] <numb3rs> my krfb crashes everytime, when i am using the same from windows system
[06:08] <numb3rs> my krfb crashes everytime, when i am using the same from windows system
[06:08] <sztanpet> why doesnt my messages from wall show up anywhere?
[06:09] <jrib> Dial_tone: yes, use LS_COLORS
[06:09] <jdier> nalioth, I get errors saying that I cannot remove componets because other applications depend on them.
[06:09] <skavenge> Dial_tone: ls should be colored by default, mine is .. anyway you can alias ls to 'ls --color=auto'
[06:09] <Dial_tone> thanks
[06:09] <POVaddct> sybec: dpkg -s hplip
[06:09] <numb3rs> krfb under ubuntu crashes when i am connected from windows vnc client after some time.. help here...
[06:09] <nalioth> akcom: you need to burn at less than 4x and verify your md5 checksums on the iso image
[06:09] <lz1gjd> is there a gui to dgen (sega genesis emulator) ?
[06:09] <nalioth> jdier: are you low on disc space?
[06:09] <akcom> nalioth, I verified the md5 checksums but why should I have to burn it at less than 4x?  I burned the livecd just fine
[06:09] <numb3rs> its happening frequently
[06:10] <numb3rs> any alternate to krfb?
[06:10] <nalioth> akcom: ubuntu is funny that way, idk why
[06:10] <akcom> bleh
[06:10] <akcom> gay
[06:10] <SurfnKid> skavenge, firmware for the kernel to support monitoring on iwconfig interfaces?
[06:10] <numb3rs> btw, krfb is a KDE VNC Server
[06:10] <skavenge> SurfnKid: to support the bcm43xx kernel module period, dont know if monitor works on that either
[06:10] <jdier> nalioth, yes, low on diskspace, but I was not using synaptic, I was using the ubuntu add/remove.
[06:10] <akcom> nalioth, you wouldn't happen to have an article confirming that it has to be burned at less than 4x would you?  I'd hate to waste another CD-R
[06:10] <Stork> hmm, how do i tell if i have a certain lib on my 32-bit library path?
[06:10] <Dial_tone> my ls output is colored but mp3s show white unless they're marked +x then they're green. I'd like them to be blue or green even when not +x
[06:10] <dron> SurfnKid: Yes I have seen somthing about on ubuntu forums
[06:11] <nalioth> jdier: use synaptic, it is much more featureful than add/remove
[06:12] <nalioth> akcom: no article, just years of being in here, hearing the same thing over and over
[06:12] <SurfnKid> dron, oh ok thx
[06:12] <akcom> fair enough
[06:12] <jdier> nalioth - I am working on it now.  Thanks for the tip.
[06:12] <akcom> nalioth, can I burn it at 4x or only less than 4x?
[06:12] <POVaddct> Dial_tone: they already told you to use LS_COLORS
[06:12] <SurfnKid> skavenge, ok ill have a look at the forums
[06:12] <nalioth> akcom: i burn at 4x or less
[06:12] <fyrestrtr> Dial_tone: edit your LS_COLORS variable
[06:12] <akcom> k, well I'll have to go with 4x considering its my lowest option
[06:12] <akcom> heh
[06:13] <skavenge> all depends on hardware and media imo .. burnt my dapper cd at 16x
[06:13] <InteGastono> Okey.. I'm trying to use this Autopsy-thingie... And it tells me "could not determine the volume system type for the disk image (i.e. the type of partition table)." Autopsy tells me to choose one "Volume System Type (disk image only)". My alternatives are: bsd, dos, gpt, mac and sun. What should I do? (dapper 6.06)
[06:13] <fyrestrtr> what tha hell is 'autopsy-thingie'???
[06:13] <Dial_tone> POVaddct, I saw so freakin chill. I was responding to skavenge
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[06:14] <numb3rs> any alternate to krfb?
[06:14] <numb3rs> any alternate to krfb?
[06:14] <asdasd> how do i COMPLETELY remove something from apt-get ?
[06:14] <fyrestrtr> numb3rs: stop repeating.
[06:14] <POVaddct> 18:09 < jrib> Dial_tone: yes, use LS_COLORS
[06:14] <skavenge> Dial_tone: heh didnt mean to start a war .. for specific colors i think they're option is better
[06:14] <Dial_tone> asdasd apt-get remove --purge or something
[06:14] <numb3rs> sorry fyrestrtr, i though anyone will notice the same, and reply..
[06:14] <ThunderStruck> asdasd: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[06:14] <Xfuser> i already tried and read the man of chmod but could'nt figure out how to do what i want ? can someone please point me the command to change the permissions to a folder and all its subfolders and files to the user (owner) read and write and all others only read ?
[06:14] <Gasten> So.. do anyone know stuff about Autopsy?
[06:15] <Spec> Gasten: you cut people open and look inside?
[06:15] <colk> Xfuser, you didnt see the recursive option for chmod
[06:15] <skavenge> guts!
[06:15] <colk> ?
[06:15] <Spec> Xfuser: easy
[06:15] <Gasten> Spec: not exactly...
[06:15] <numb3rs> fyrestrtr: could you answer my Q?
[06:15] <lz1gjd> could you tell me if its safe to "sudo rpm -i VMware-player-1.0.1-19317.i386.rpm" ?
[06:15] <Spec> Xfuser: chmod -R o+rw folder/
[06:15] <Spec> Xfuser: sorry, no, it's u+rw
[06:15] <skavenge> lz1gjd: no
[06:16] <AngryElf> guys, when I run dpkg --configure -a I get:  dpkg: parse error, in file: /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0008 near line 25  package 'passwd'........can I just delete that file  (0008) and rerun the command?
[06:16] <fyrestrtr> numb3rs: I don't know the answer to your question.
[06:16] <Xfuser> Spec i see, the recursive is not the problem... the problem is the +-rw stuff...
[06:16] <lz1gjd> how should i install this rpm , use alien maybe ?
[06:16] <Seveas> lz1gjd, delete the rpm and install vmware-player from the repos
[06:16] <numb3rs> ok
[06:16] <Spec> Xfuser: and then chmod -R og+r folder/
[06:16] <snorre> fyrestrtr: I didn't save the file, should I make changes to it?
[06:16] <Spec> Xfuser: and then chmod -R og-w folder/
[06:16] <skavenge> lz1gjd: rpm's on a debian based system are highly suggested not to be used .. will break
[06:16] <fyrestrtr> snorre: yes, but open it with sudo otherwise you won't be able to write the changes.
[06:17] <snorre> fyrestrtr: Ok, but what should I change?
[06:17] <gmoore> i'm trying out an X server for Windows. i tried some single applications (ddd, xclock, dillo) and they all worked. i'd like to load my entire window manager and see a desktop etc though. how can i tell Gnome to start an instance?
[06:17] <snorre> fyrestrtr: I don't see any entry about the monitor properties. Isn't that also important?
[06:17] <fyrestrtr> snorre: well, first think would be to see if ati has drivers for your card and install them.
[06:17] <fyrestrtr> snorre: for lcds its not that important.
[06:17] <Seveas> gmoore, dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session
[06:17] <Spec> Xfuser: what do the permissions look like on the folder now? :)
[06:17] <snorre> fyrestrtr: You mean Matrox?
[06:17] <fyrestrtr> gmoore: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:18] <fyrestrtr> snorre: yes.
[06:18] <gmoore> Seveas and fyrestrtr: thanks.
[06:18] <corto_maltese> Hi, my connection worked properly when I started Ubuntu 6.06 LIVE but started not working after the installation... any idea? eth0 is active the DHCP is configured but the interface doesn't dialog with the router...
[06:18] <snorre> fyrestrtr: how can I check that?
[06:18] <Spec> corto_maltese: what does the output of 'mii-tool' say?
[06:19] <Xfuser> Spec finally ! :) it worked out great, thanks !
[06:19] <fyrestrtr> snorre: don't know to be honest. I only have experience with ATI and nvidia
[06:19] <corto_maltese> Spec: didn' try that don't know this command... i'm a noob :)
[06:19] <Spec> Xfuser: it's easy, just remember, u = user, g = group, o = others and then + r = read w = write and there's also the sticky bit but that's not used as often
[06:19] <Xfuser> Spec finally ! :) i was trying to do all in just one command... maybe that's why i couldn't get to do it...
[06:20] <corto_maltese> I only check ipconfig and routing table
[06:20] <Spec> Xfuser: you can do it all with one command with numbers, but i'm not so good at translating numbers to humanspeak
[06:20] <blanky> !ati
[06:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:20] <Spec> corto_maltese: mii-tool will just report link connectivity
[06:20] <corto_maltese> Spec i try to ping the router to test connectivity
[06:20] <Spec> corto_maltese: you can have a link connectivity without having an IP ....
[06:20] <Spec> corto_maltese: it tests the first layer: ie hardware
[06:21] <Spec> corto_maltese: assuming your cables are connected, try running the program: dhclient eth0
[06:21] <corto_maltese> dhclient eth0 returns No DHCPOFFERS received
 - done, thanks.
[06:21] <Xfuser> Spec err... im getting some errors here...
[06:21] <corto_maltese> i tried that
[06:21] <Spec> Xfuser: what folder was it you chmodded?
[06:21] <Xfuser> Spec now i cant open my home folder nor save anything there...
[06:22] <Xfuser> Spec /home/myuser
[06:22] <Spec> Xfuser: who owns the folder /home/myuser?
[06:22] <Xfuser> Spec brunno
[06:22] <Spec> Xfuser: is that your user account?
[06:22] <Xfuser> Spec yes
[06:22] <Spec> Xfuser: ls -hal /home
[06:22] <Dial_tone> organizing mp3's is a biatch
[06:23] <snorre> fyrestrtr: sudo apt-cache search matrox and found xserver-xorg-driver-mga - X.Org X server -- MGA display driver
[06:23] <Spec> Xfuser: can you paste just the line with /home/brunno on it
[06:23] <rem> .
[06:23] <Spec> Dial_tone: yes
[06:23] <Kristophe> hi everybody, I have lots of photos, and want to print them easily 2 photos per page... Is there anything simpler than kword/ooffice out there??
[06:23] <Spec> Dial_tone: just set all the id3tags and then write some script to auto-sort them
[06:23] <Xfuser> Spec i used chown to change the owner of it too, because i copyed a lot of subfolders to it that had permissions only to root
[06:23] <snorre> fyrestrtr: sudo apt-get xserver-xorg-driver-mga gave xserver-xorg-driver-mga is already the newest version. So it is already installed...
[06:23] <fredbezies> salut !
[06:24] <Spec> Xfuser: chown -R username:username /home/brunno
[06:24] <Dial_tone> that's what I'm doing now with id3ren, but i have so many dupes
[06:24] <Xfuser> Spec drwSr-Sr-- 45 brunno brunno 4,0K 2006-07-14 12:52 brunno
[06:24] <Spec> Xfuser: why are there 'S's there?
[06:24] <Xfuser> Spec that was the exact command i used...
[06:24] <Spec> Xfuser: your chown is fine, your chmod is weird
[06:24] <jrattner> QUESTION: Anyone used luma to configure LDAP before
[06:24] <Narada> how do you install a .deb package
[06:24] <Xfuser> Spec i have no idea whats this S for...
[06:25] <Spec> Xfuser: perhaps chmod a-S folder/
[06:25] <Spec> Xfuser: then show what the folder's permissions are please
[06:25] <Xfuser> Spec with the -R ?
[06:25] <jrib> Narada: use synaptic to install 'gdebi' first.  Then you can just double click on the .deb.  But are you sure the .deb is not available through synaptic already?
[06:25] <Spec> Xfuser: no
[06:25] <corto_maltese> Spec 'mii-tool' returns link OK
[06:25] <Spec> Xfuser: oh, right, and you need executable access to get 'into' the folder as well, i forgot... so do
[06:25] <Spec> Xfuser: chmod a+x /home/brunno
[06:25] <yggdrasil_> wheres a good place to get a gnome theme.. looking for something black or dark grey
[06:26] <jrib> !themes
[06:26] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:26] <Redman276> is ther an example samba  config  ican look at  on the web for  getting   XP machines to see a ubuntu machine ??
[06:26] <Spec> yggwork: freshmeat
[06:26] <Spec> !samba
[06:26] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:26] <Spec> Redman276: ^^
[06:26] <Xfuser> Spec the a-S didn't work... it said its a invalid command
[06:26] <yggwork> ill  give it a shot
[06:26] <Narada> jrib: how to install anything using synaptic
[06:26] <sztanpet> on my system wall doesnt write anything on the users console, what can be the problem?
[06:27] <Seveas> !themes =~ s#http://art.ubuntu.com - ##
[06:27] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[06:27] <jrib> !synaptic > Narada
[06:27] <Spec> Xfuser: chmod -s? :)
[06:27] <Narada> k
[06:28] <Spec> Xfuser: yes, it's chmod a-s /home/brunno
[06:28] <Spec> Xfuser: be sure to set a+x on /home/brunno, and then all will be well :)
[06:28] <mhiku> out of topic, how many country can host illegal sites and software pirates? russia? anything else?
[06:28] <Spec> mhiku: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:28] <paied> hmm.
[06:28] <Spec> mhiku: that subject is not appropriate for this channel
[06:28] <paied> after installing all the updates
[06:28] <paied> sound is not working =(
[06:28] <corto_maltese> shuold i renounce and install mdk .... maybe is better! :D
[06:28] <mhiku> aw ok
[06:28] <Spec> mhiku: and 'illegal' is, of course, relative
[06:29] <elux> hi
[06:29] <elux> how can i install java 1.5 jdk and jre?
[06:29] <elux> i just installed the ubuntu desktop iso
[06:29] <Spec> !java
[06:29] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:29] <Xfuser> Spec the 'a' dont work here
[06:29] <dany> can i get libtool*.deb out from doing an apt-get???
[06:29] <Spec> Xfuser: chmod a+x /home/brunno doesn't work?
[06:30] <Xfuser> Spec i did this, removed all the permissions with the '000' comand and now gave rw to owner and only r to all
[06:30] <Spec> Xfuser: give x to all :p
[06:30] <salah> is there any possibilities to make DVD with Linux?
[06:30] <Spec> Xfuser: if you want, you can do: chmod ogu+x /home/brunno
[06:30] <Spec> salah: yes
[06:30] <enyc> salah: probably yes on all counts.. but 'make DVD' is too vague
[06:30] <Spec> !burner
[06:30] <drebs> Hello, friends, I am installing ubuntu on an iMac OldWorld and I've done trhough the OldWorldMacs wiki but I have a problem. When trying to boot on the new system I receive the following messages: "VFS: Cannot open root device "hda8" or unknown-block(0,0) \n Please append a correct "root=" boot option \n Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[06:30] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:30] <enyc> salah: what do you mean by 'DVD' exactyly?
[06:31] <Spec> salah: read output of ubotu
[06:31] <salah> enyc, I have some mpg files I want to burn as a DVD file
[06:31] <salah> Spec, thanks
[06:31] <Spec> no problem, i live to serve.
[06:31] <Xfuser> Spec i used the  'chmod a+x /home/brunno' and it returned no erros, but now nautilus starts to open and then closes instead of returning a permission message...
[06:32] <jrattner> Can anyone help me configure LDAP
[06:32] <Spec> Xfuser: show me permissions of the folder please?
[06:32] <corto_maltese> ehm... really there's nothing I can do? It's unbelivable....
[06:32] <Xfuser> Spec drwx--x--x 45 brunno brunno 4,0K 2006-07-14 12:52 brunno
[06:32] <Spec> Xfuser: chmod a+r /home/brunno
[06:33] <theapoc> How do I copy a folder from my NTFS drive to my Ubuntu drive using the CP command?
[06:33] <Xfuser> Spec did it, still the same.. nautilus doesnt open anymore
[06:33] <Spec> Xfuser: show me permissions
[06:33] <akcom> theapoc, is your ntfs partition already mounted?
[06:33] <paied> oh never mind, ubuntu must hve unplugged my speakers for me upon reboot to install the new kernel.
[06:33] <Spec> theapoc: mount the NTFS drive read only, and then do cp /path/to/ntfs/folder /path/to/ubuntu/drive/
[06:33] <theapoc> akcom, yes
[06:33] <Xfuser> Spec drwxr-xr-x 45 brunno brunno 4,0K 2006-07-14 12:52 brunno
[06:33] <Spec> theapoc: sorry, add a '-R' after the cp
[06:33] <akcom> then Spec is correct, but with -R
[06:33] <akcom> err, now he's just plain correct :)
[06:33] <Spec> :p
[06:34] <Spec> Xfuser: the permissions should look like: drwxr-xr-x :)
[06:34] <theapoc> Spec: Thanks
[06:34] <Spec> Xfuser: i don't know why nautilus would crash -- but it's not a permissions problem
[06:35] <dany> how do i get *.deb packages?
[06:35] <Xfuser> Spec ill '000' everything again, and then what command do i use to get the 'drwxr-xr-x' ?
[06:35] <sztanpet> on my system wall doesnt write anything on the users console, what can be the problem?
[06:35] <Vhata> since my updates this morning, aptitude keeps telling me "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!
[06:35] <Vhata> any reason?
[06:36] <drebs> Hello, friends, I am installing ubuntu on an iMac OldWorld and I've done trhough the OldWorldMacs wiki but I have a problem. When trying to boot on the new system I receive the following messages: "VFS: Cannot open root device "hda8" or unknown-block(0,0) \n Please append a correct "root=" boot option \n Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)". But I am sure the partition address is correct. Someone k
[06:36] <drebs> nows something about this?
[06:36] <elux> ok
[06:36] <Spec> Xfuser: okay, easiness is about to happen
[06:36] <Spec> Xfuser: chmod 755 /home/brunno
[06:36] <elux> for whatever reason i type: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-sdk    and it tells me it cant find the package, what gives
[06:36] <paied> Xfuser, to get,  [bob@elenothar bob] $ stat clock-view.png -c "%A"
[06:36] <Spec> !tell elux about multiverse
[06:36] <blanky> For the ATI driver installation, is the following change necessary? (in xorg.conf, reading from the howto/wiki)
[06:36] <paied> %a to get the numerical form.
[06:36] <blanky> Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] "
[06:37] <blanky> All I did was change Driver "fglrx"
[06:37] <Xfuser> Spec drwxr-xr-x 45 brunno brunno 4,0K 2006-07-14 12:52 brunno
[06:37] <elux> Spec: ok .. so its under restricted, how do i access it
[06:37] <elux> its annoying
[06:37] <Spec> elux: you need to add it to your repository, you can do so via synaptic
[06:37] <colk> !restricted
[06:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:38] <Xfuser> Spec and now it seems everything is working ! :)
[06:38] <Spec> Xfuser: i suppose the numbers win :-/
[06:38] <Xfuser> Spec how did you fiigured out the 755 thing ?
[06:38] <Spec> Xfuser: i mkdir'd a folder, and i knew that 777 is full permissions for everyone
[06:38] <Spec> Xfuser: so i did 766 ... then 755 ... and it worked :p
[06:39] <Xfuser> Spec hehe, clever ! :)
[06:39] <elux> thanks
[06:39] <birdmun> so i got banned from another linux chan for asking about the command du
[06:40] <Xfuser> Spec so for people to open a folder everybody must have execution permissions right ?
[06:40] <akcom> When partitioning my drive for a dual boot system, do I make my "/boot" partition bootable or my "/" partition bootable?
[06:40] <emir> hi all, anyone knows why my ubuntu changed into edubuntu after updating
[06:40] <DBO> Spec, would you like to learn what those numbers mean really quick?
[06:40] <Spec> DBO: i do know what the numbers mean
[06:40] <Spec> DBO: and i know how to use umask
[06:40] <Spec> DBO: but i'm ultra lazy and don't like to do the thinking behind the numbers
[06:40] <DBO> Spec, ok, sorry, misunderstood your meaning
[06:40] <birdmun> lol
[06:40] <Spec> DBO: :p
[06:41] <Spec> DBO: if you want you can write a quick factoid for ubuntu for permissions
[06:41] <Spec> !permissions
[06:41] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:41] <kalosaurusrex> how can I search the packages and have it tell me what package gives me another package?
[06:41] <Spec> akcom: it depends, if you're putting grub in your MBR it doesn't matter
[06:41] <ThunderStruck> Spec: why write it its there already ;)
[06:41] <kalosaurusrex> like I need lp but I need to figure out what package supplies it.
[06:41] <Spec> ThunderStruck: a link to it is there, it itself is not there :)
[06:41] <Redman276> mmmmmmmmmmm shaweeeeet  ,   kde on ubuntu  is kickin :D
[06:41] <nalioth> kalosaurusrex: /msg ubotu apt-file
[06:42] <Spec> apt-file is awesome
[06:42] <Spec> <3
[06:42] <akcom> Spec: if I didn't put grub on the MBR, I would put it on hda2 (my /boot partition) correct?
[06:42] <ThunderStruck> i can honestly say ive never used apt-file before but i am gonna look at it tonight ;)
[06:42] <akcom> and I would make the /boot partition bootable, right?
[06:43] <alex___> How can I make X listen on a TCP port?
[06:43] <kalosaurusrex> nalioth: wow sweet thatnks.  I usually use apt-cache.
[06:43] <Spec> akcom: good question, i always put grub in my MBR -- i would assume you would put it on your /boot partition though, and make that one bootable
[06:43] <nalioth> kalosaurusrex: they make different size wrenches for a reason :)
[06:43] <alex___> I tried setting tcp listening [ Tsukasa   ]  [ astro_-   ]  [ makro     ]  [ mjr       ]  [ Kaja      ] 
[06:43] <alex___> god damn it
[06:44] <dr_willis> 0_o
[06:44] <Spec> err
[06:44] <Spec> that was odd
[06:44] <bulio> I just installed vnc4viewer
[06:44] <kalosaurusrex> nalioth: good point :)
[06:44] <Spec> bulio: congratulations! what a fine choice!
[06:44] <bulio> now I do I use it so I can access my home PC?
[06:44] <Spec> bulio: is your homepc running vnc?
[06:44] <yggwork> how do i put my home directory link on my desktop ?
[06:44] <bulio> Spec: Just installed vnc2server on it?
[06:44] <birdmun> my home dir is reporting that it is using roughly 84gig of a 100gig drive yet when i enter it its using only a fraction of that
[06:45] <bulio> *vnc4server
[06:45] <elux> whats a good text editor to use in ubuntu? (for coding)
[06:45] <Xfuser> Spec thanks a lot for the help man, now i can use all my files ! :)
[06:45] <dr_willis> it pays to read the vnc docs. its a very complex and flexable syste,
[06:45] <Spec> bulio: i would use tightvnc, regardless, just open a terminal and run the command: vncviewer x.x.x.x   where x.x.x.x = your home pc's IP
[06:45] <Nilsy> elux, a nice small one like emacs ;)
[06:45] <Spec> elux: vim
[06:45] <bulio> Spec: I mean setup my vnc server
[06:45] <Chousuke> eer
[06:45] <Spec> elux: some people call 'emacs' an editor -- but it's really an operating system
[06:45] <Chousuke> Oh, it was a joke.
[06:45] <need_help> Hi
[06:45] <Spec> bulio: i would read the documentation
[06:46] <Spec> need_help: what sort of help do you need?
[06:46] <Nilsy> spec: no it is a nice small editor, you can even talk to it ;)
[06:46] <need_help> wait
[06:46] <dr_willis> bulio,  in short.. shh to the remote machine. run 'vncserver' , run vncviewer on local machine. giveing it the ip and screen # of remote box.
[06:46] <Spec> Nilsy: and there are three (3) window managers available for it
[06:46] <Chousuke> Spec: You know, Just run emacs as your init script.
[06:46] <Spec> Chousuke: gotta get HURD working with emacs :)
[06:46] <BLOOD> hi
[06:47] <bulio> awww great, can't ssh in anymore
[06:47] <bulio> I'm not sure why :S
[06:47] <BLOOD> Is it possible to convert an external HDD partition from vfat to ext3 and keep all the stuff on the drive?
[06:47] <bulio> I can pin it though
[06:47] <Pupeno> I know there's a cups running on some ip on my network, but I don't remember the ip (and I don't have access to that computer). How can I find it ?
[06:47] <kalosaurusrex> nalioth: could you help me really quick?  how do I use apt-file to give me what provides the function "lp"?
[06:48] <Pupeno> BLOOD: no, you have to backup, repartition and restore.
[06:48] <gatekeeper> BLOOD: you need to back it first
[06:48] <BLOOD> kk
[06:48] <BLOOD> how do you send red text to me and me only like that?
[06:48] <Spec> BLOOD: your name is included in the line of text
[06:48] <Spec> BLOOD: so your IRC client renders it red so you notice it
[06:48] <binfalse> sup?
[06:48] <BLOOD> what
[06:49] <BLOOD> oh
[06:49] <BLOOD> I see
[06:49] <BLOOD> cool
[06:49] <Spec> :p
[06:49] <BLOOD> Spec: HI
[06:49] <Spec> enter is not punctuation
[06:49] <Spec> !enter
[06:49] <Kaja> lol
[06:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:49] <qwertybob> should i use 64 version of kubuntu or will 32 bit version work about same on amd?
[06:49] <gfeht> is there a way to view windows shares of my local network, apart from Nautilus
[06:49] <Spec> qwertybob: do you have a wireless card?
[06:49] <qwertybob> no
[06:49] <cimon> from the oops file
[06:49] <afm\colossus_> qwertybob: use the 32bit version
[06:49] <nalioth> kalosaurusrex: apt-file only shows you what files are in what package
[06:49] <Spec> qwertybob: 32bit is more stable and goodfull
[06:49] <xxpor> qwertybob, unless u have >4gb of ram, it shouldnt make that much of a diffrence
[06:49] <qwertybob> ok
[06:49] <Spec> qwertybob: but if you don't have a wireless card, 64bit might be cool
[06:50] <cimon> I am currently updateing my systemmm
[06:50] <qwertybob> konqueror is crashing when i click on links
[06:50] <cimon> for some silly reason, synaptic has remover X-org from my system...
[06:50] <Pupeno> does anybody know off-hand how to map a network and find out all the ips with port 661 open (with nmap or something like that).
[06:50] <qwertybob> mostly the cnn links i think
[06:50] <afm\colossus_> xxpor: actually, the boundary is at 3gb of ram
[06:50] <kalosaurusrex> nalioth: ahh I got it. apt-file list -l *pattern*
[06:50] <cimon> what do I do if I need it back?
[06:50] <kalosaurusrex> works great thanks dude!
[06:50] <cimon> apt-get something
[06:50] <gatekeeper> qwertybob: the problems come with the missing bits, like flash which is only 32 bit
[06:50] <gatekeeper> brb
[06:51] <xxpor> afm\colossus_, o thx, i assumed it was diffrent than windows, but you know what that does ;)
[06:51] <Spec> cimon: does X work?
[06:51] <cimon> I am updating to dapper, is x-org necessary?
[06:51] <BLOOD> How long will Linux take to copy about 10000 files totalling about 20Gb+ from a USB2.0 external vfat HDD?
[06:51] <qwertybob> gatekeeper: so even if i am running 32, because my processor is 64 ?
[06:51] <cimon> Spec, it hasn't gone through updating yet, synaptic is still running...
[06:51] <afm\colossus_> xxpor: recent kernel let you decide at compile time on how to split up 4gigs opf ram on IA-32
[06:51] <xxpor> BLOOD, whats the RPM of the hd?
[06:51] <dr_willis> BLOOD,  external usb is  nasty slow compared to ide.. i would guess hr or 2
[06:51] <Spec> BLOOD: 20 gigs ... usb harddrive ... 2 hours probably
[06:51] <afm\colossus_> but there are some nasty bios tricks involved, iirc
[06:52] <BLOOD> How do I find out the RPM?
[06:52] <xxpor> BLOOD, nm
[06:52] <Spec> BLOOD: it'll say it on the harddrive
[06:52] <Spec> BLOOD: doesn't matter too much, usb is your bottleneck
[06:52] <BLOOD> ill check later
[06:52] <xxpor> BLOOD, dont worry about it
[06:52] <elux> has anyone here tried install netbeans on ubuntu?
[06:52] <cimon> Spec:  I really mean, what is the packagename for x-org
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> xorg-server
[06:52] <Spec> cimon: i don't know, but if the upgrade leaves you without X, i believe you should just do: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:52] <BLOOD> the 'Copying Files' dialogue is open but it's doing nothing
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> or xserver-xorg
[06:53] <elux> which device links to my COM1 port?  /dev/ttyS0  ?
[06:53] <cimon> fyrestrtr:  will that bring up all the needed files?
[06:53] <liran1> oh my god, im gonna cum
[06:53] <xxpor> afm\colossus_, thx, but I doubt that he wanted to compile the kernel ;)
[06:53] <liran1> check http://tux.crystalxp.net/index.php
[06:53] <BLOOD> there is no text and the progress bar is empty
[06:53] <qwertybob> does flash work on amd 64 if you run 32 bit ubuntu version or?
[06:53] <Spec> liran1: that's not appropriate language, please do not use it here
[06:53] <Spec> qwertybob: i believe so
[06:53] <liran1> sorry, was just expressing my enthusiasm
[06:53] <Spec> liran1: express it in other ways
[06:53] <Spec> :)
[06:53] <krism> qwertybob : yes, flash will work in 32 bit mode.
[06:54] <liran1> Spec: you most definitely right. my bad. i got carried away
[06:54] <Spec> BLOOD: sorry, i can't help you -- i always use a terminal for things like copy
[06:54] <BLOOD> k
[06:54] <BLOOD> ah its doing stuff now
[06:54] <qwertybob> krism: im wondering why konqueror is crashing so much
[06:54] <liran1> Spec: im excited cause i printed some linux stickers just a week ago, but with all the tuxes there i think im gonna print some more :)
[06:54] <Spec> qwertybob: are you on sixtyfour bit?
[06:54] <qwertybob> krism: system seems super fast, like its ahead of me
[06:54] <afm\colossus_> qwertybob: thing is, konqueror is crashing on kubuntu so much
[06:54] <BLOOD> 109199 files
[06:54] <qwertybob> Spec: im on amd sempron 64
[06:54] <Spec> liran1: ah, i just looked at the site
[06:54] <BLOOD> 24:14 remaining
[06:54] <afm\colossus_> i'm running kde 3.5.2 on gentoo for ages now, and konqu actually NEVER crashed on me
[06:55] <Spec> qwertybob: perhaps the 64bit version of konq is unstable?
[06:55] <liran1> Spec: those tux are so cute :)
[06:55] <BLOOD> liran1: what 'tux'?
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> too bad the site is in french
[06:55] <qwertybob> Spec: im running on 32 bit install
[06:55] <Spec> qwertybob: hmm, that's unfortunate
[06:55] <liran1> BLOOD: here http://tux.crystalxp.net/index.php
[06:55] <BLOOD> kk
[06:55] <Spec> qwertybob: have you checked the forums?
[06:55] <cimon> Thanks everybody, <3 ubuntu.
[06:55] <yggwork> is there any way to make the menu bars in gnome smaller . the bars at top and bottom
[06:55] <Spec> liran1: what are those? stickers? things you put on a computer?
[06:56] <qwertybob> Spec: i will thanks, i have a small problem with nvidia and aperture size in bios
[06:56] <afm\colossus_> yggwork: right-click, Properties - Size
[06:56] <skavenge> yggwork: right click on the bar, properties, size
[06:56] <Spec> qwertybob: i don't know what an aperture is so....i'm of no help :p
[06:56] <liran1> Spec: it's just drawings. but im gonna print them as stickers in a printshop :)
[06:56] <yggwork> kk
[06:56] <qwertybob> if i increase any performance in bios i get errors, other than that its fast
[06:57] <qwertybob> Spec: only cnn links are crashing, weird
[06:57] <qwertybob> maybe its pop up blocker
[06:57] <elux> i installed the sun-java5-jdk package, but it also installed the gcj jre, which is a 1.4 implementation
[06:57] <elux> stupid thing
[06:58] <liran1> Spec: these tuxes are going on my blog!
[06:58] <rita> hello, guys, I have a problem with sound on ubuntu, when I login using the first created user sound works, when I login using another user everything works except sound! Any one can help ?
[06:58] <yggwork> 25 is the minimum ? :(
[06:58] <yggwork> too big still
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> rita: add the second user to the sound group
[06:59] <detectiveinspekt> is it possible to make .avi files use mplayer instead of totem?
[06:59] <rita> ok I'll try that jus a sec
[06:59] <Dial_tone> rita also make sure the volume isn't too low for the other user
[06:59] <javiolo> how do I install the x server ?
[06:59] <Spec> qwertybob: perhaps cnn is loading a plugin that makes konq crash
[06:59] <Spec> damnit
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[06:59] <javiolo> fyrestrtr ok thanks!
[06:59] <Spec> elux: use the program 'update-alternatives' to specify which java is your machine's "default" java
[06:59] <birdmun> detectiveinspekt, you should be able to right click on the icon and adjust what program opens the file type by default
[07:00] <elux> i just deleted gcj.. to hell with it
[07:00] <Spec> elux: heh
[07:00] <elux> strange enough. when i tried to install netbeans, it said it couldnt find a JVM, yet javac is installed
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> javac != jvm
[07:00] <elux> well.. true
[07:00] <elux> i wonder if the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set correctly
[07:01] <gfeht>  is there a way to view windows shares of my local network, apart from Nautilus?
[07:01] <detectiveinspekt> ty
[07:01] <akcom> although you would believe that if the java compiler is installed, the jvm would be as well
[07:01] <elux> right, that was the connection i was trying to make
[07:01] <londondave> hi, after a kernel update I recompiled an app with the new headers for the kernel version, but it won't work-complains of symbol errors?
[07:01] <elux> ok i think it worked.
[07:02] <CarlFK> how do I make mplayer the app that is used when I double click a .wmv that was e-mailed to me
[07:02] <Spec> CarlFK: what's the program that you use for mail?
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> gfeht: smbclient
[07:02] <CarlFK> Spec: thunderbird
[07:02] <londondave> CarlFK: have you the codecs, mplayer should play anything
[07:02] <deFrysk> CarlFK, richtklick it > properties and set it to tour preferred app
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> evolution, thunderbird, mutt
[07:02] <javiolo> fyrestrtr how do I start the xserver ?
[07:03] <birdmun> startx?
[07:03] <elux> i have to say
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: you have to configure it first.
[07:03] <elux> ive been using linux since 95, and im so impressed with ubuntu
[07:03] <elux> im actually an osx user, but ubuntu is going to displace osx in no time
[07:03] <javiolo> fyrestrtr was something like dpkg -reconfigure sxerver-xorg ?
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> javiolo: yes, something like that
[07:03] <CarlFK> londondave: mplayer won't play it if mplayer doesn't get run :)
[07:03] <elux> btw guys, how can i communicate with my COM1 serial port?  is the device /dev/ttyS0 ?
[07:03] <qwertybob> konqueror crashes when loading offsite image, so thats the trouble, need to configure
[07:04] <rita> I added the user to the audio group ... do I need to relogin ? or maybe restart some sound deamon ?
[07:04] <CarlFK> deFrysk: rightclick what?  (the attachment has no Props option)
[07:04] <birdmun> can a person do something like dmesg | grep com1 ?
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> rita: relogin
[07:04] <CarlFK> birdmun: yes
[07:04] <rita> ok thx brb
[07:04] <londondave> CarlFK: take deFrysk's advice you just need to set the app that should run when you click a wmv file extension
[07:04] <deFrysk> CarlFK, rightclick the wav file go to properties click open with and set it to your preferred player
[07:05] <CarlFK> birdmun: but I doubt you will find "com1"
[07:05] <birdmun> what of /dev/ttyS* ?
[07:06] <CarlFK> deFrysk: right click the attachment = open, save, save all, delete...  no Props option
[07:06] <rita> Thanks! Worked like a charm .... just a last question I noticed the first user is member of a dozen groups ... where can I check what each one is for ?
[07:06] <deFrysk> CarlFK, not the attachement the file
[07:06] <londondave> elux: the last time I had a dial-up modem it was ttyS0 or com1
[07:06] <deFrysk> the .wav file
[07:06] <mneisen> hi, is there a way to convert a running Debian installation into Ubuntu?
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> mneisen: psst .. ask in #debian ;)
[07:07] <CarlFK> deFrysk: so save it first?
[07:07] <deFrysk> CarlFK, dunno its your mail
[07:07] <birdmun> lol
[07:08] <mneisen> fyrestrtr: Why, i want to leave debian, and I do not think they are so glad to help me ... :-D
[07:08] <filemover> im having trouble changing permissions on some files ive moved from a cdrom can anyone help
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> rita: there is no list, but generally speaking -- admin (this group is allowed to sudo -- run tasks with root privileges) sanner (use of scanners), audio (use sound card), games (play games), etc.
[07:08] <londondave> filemover: what's the problem
[07:09] <filemover> well i can move folders arround using sudo
[07:09] <deFrysk> anyway I'm off bye all
[07:09] <CarlFK> deFrysk: what is the difference between "the attachement" and "the file" ?
[07:09] <filemover> from a terminal
[07:09] <filemover> but when it comes to moving them from a gui i cant
[07:09] <filemover> and they have a lock on them
[07:10] <londondave> you should be able to use the cdrom and copy files to your harddrive as a normal user
[07:10] <filemover> yeah i know
[07:10] <skavenge> filemover: im not good with permissions which i know is what you want but quick fix you could run 'gksudo nautilus' .. it'll let you move them in the gui then
[07:10] <birdmun> i have a fold misreporting its size by 10's of gigs is there anyway i can get it corrected w/o reinstalling?
[07:10] <polpak> filemover, be careful moving things around as root
[07:11] <polpak> filemover, are these files/directories in your home directory?
[07:11] <filemover> but i made the mistake of moving them from the terminal onto my hard drive as superuser
[07:11] <birdmun> *folder
[07:11] <snoops> is there a way to setup my main box as a ubuntu repository with highest priority? So the other ubuntu boxes on my network will check that first and if that machine has any updated packages grab them>
[07:11] <elux> do you guys know where the JRE is usually installed on ubuntu?
[07:11] <filemover> yes they are
[07:11] <mneisen> elux: Somewhere in /usr/lib/jvm
[07:11] <filemover> in my home directory
[07:11] <r0rz> !fonts
[07:11] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[07:11] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[07:11] <polpak> filemover, just use chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser
[07:11] <birdmun> is it not installed in java-1.5. ...?
[07:12] <polpak> filemover, but put sudo in front of it
[07:12] <filemover> ok
[07:12] <dAbReAkA> i've got 2 soundcards and kubuntu properly detects them.. my 5.1 subwoofer is connected to the first one, and my microphone is connected to the 2nd one.. when i boot it up i can play music (with the first sound card) but my mic is not working(2nd one)..
[07:12] <polpak> filemover, that will fix it
[07:12] <filemover> i tried that but i didnt know the group name
[07:12] <filemover> how do i find my group name
[07:12] <polpak> filemover, it's the same as your username usually
[07:12] <filemover> ok
[07:12] <mneisen> birdmun: Yes it is, and this is a subdir of /usr/lib/jvm
[07:13] <filemover> so they are both the same
[07:13] <filemover> thanx for the help
[07:13] <filemover> so i use sudo chown -R user:user /home/user
[07:13] <filemover> lol
[07:14] <polpak> filemover, yes
[07:14] <filemover> thnx
[07:16] <filemover> no good
[07:16] <elux> ive setup a ubuntu server that will be used in an environment where there could be a lot of power failures.  im using an ext3 file system .. could there be room for data corruption?
[07:16] <filemover> polpak
[07:16] <filemover> :(
[07:16] <birdmun> i think so
[07:16] <filemover> dont want to budge
[07:17] <ompaul> !enter
[07:17] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:17] <dAbReAkA> i've got 2 soundcards and kubuntu properly detects them.. my 5.1 subwoofer is connected to the first one, and my microphone is connected to the 2nd one.. when i boot it up i can play music (with the first sound card) but my mic is not working(2nd one)..
[07:17] <birdmun> am i asking the wrong question about my bloated folder?
[07:18] <ompaul> elux, it is always possible, ext3 may help some but when a device is in that state I would prefer you to say I have installed a UPS
[07:18] <filemover> u have to create asymlink to the device
[07:18] <[Ex0r] > Perfect, I am back :)
[07:18] <polpak> filemover, right click the file and tell me what the permissions are
[07:18] <filemover> k
[07:18] <polpak> filemover, and the owner/group
[07:18] <mneisen> ok, i dont like to repeat but i didnt et an answer on #debian (they said ask on #ubuntu) ...
[07:18] <mneisen> hi, is there a way to convert a running Debian installation into Ubuntu?
[07:18] <dr_willis> mneisen,  not that i have heard of.
[07:18] <skavenge> mneisen: not anymore i dont think, there was when ubuntu was in its infancy
[07:18] <elux> ompaul: i hear ya.
[07:19] <dAbReAkA> is there a way to set the second soundcard as default for input signals?
[07:19] <filemover> read and execute for everyone and write for no one
[07:19] <polpak> filemover, and what directory is the file in ?
[07:19] <Lynoure> mneisen: but if you don't have anything specialy installed, and a separate /home partition, installing while keeping your home shouldn't be too tough
[07:19] <filemover> i created a directory called My MUsic in my home directory
[07:20] <filemover> and they are in there
[07:20] <polpak> filemover, ok, what are the permissions on the My Music directory?
[07:20] <gatekeeper> mneisen: ubuntu although debian based is incompatible with debian, so the answer is no, however you could back your data up then install ubuntu then restore your data
[07:20] <[Ex0r] > Does anybody here know a good open-source software package for handling servers all at once? (Like cpanel, or plesk) ?
[07:21] <filemover> Owner can do everything and Gruop and others can only read and execute
[07:21] <gatekeeper> mneisen: why do you want to move from debian to ubuntu?
[07:21] <polpak> filemover,  and your user is the owner/group for the files and directories?
[07:21] <mneisen> gatekeeper: I want to use ubuntu, but my hoster only offers debian on dedicated servers.
[07:21] <filemover> yes
[07:22] <filemover> and the user is me
[07:22] <ompaul> !enter > filemover
[07:22] <filemover> ive just seen something Polpak
[07:22] <ompaul> filemover, can you please read the message from the bot, thanks ;-)
[07:22] <filemover> one sec
[07:22] <Spec> ompaul: hah
[07:22] <filemover> k
[07:22] <mneisen> as an alternative, I have access to an rescue system (booted vai network). Is it possible to install ubuntu without inserting the installation CD?
[07:23] <[Ex0r] > Nobody has any ?
[07:23] <mneisen> (Please refrain from saying: "Yes, just enter the installation *DVD*!" :-D)
[07:23] <skavenge> ive yet to see it installed without it
[07:23] <polpak> filemover, what did you see?
[07:23] <thegattaca> How does one disable click-on-tap with the Alps touchpad using the synaptec driver?
[07:23] <thegattaca> I've tried the following (close to bottom driver version and re-configuration procedure) with no luck.
[07:23] <birdmun> so mneisen you are after a nfs install?
[07:23] <thegattaca> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76585
[07:23] <ompaul> [Ex0r] , please wait 15 minutes before you ask again thanks ] 
[07:23] <jkp> how can i put args in menu.lst that dont get blown away each time i upgrade the kernel?
[07:24] <thegattaca> (in Dapper)
[07:24] <filemover> when i did the install i put my name in and is next to the username i specified in the Music Properties under permissions
[07:24] <skavenge> thegattaca: good luck, spent about a week on that one with no luck .. its a pain with alps touchpads
[07:24] <haakonn> my dapper system totally disregards /etc/hosts and only asks the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf. i've looked at man hosts and man resolv.conf, but i can't figure out how to make it ask hosts first. any ideas?
[07:24] <thegattaca> perhaps the gentoo dudes know
[07:25] <haakonn> (the effect is that localhost doesn't resolve, of course)
[07:25] <[Ex0r] > ompaul- I didn't ask again, I said I take it nobody knows :)
[07:25] <stefg> jkp: there's tags in the list, read it carefully... what's in between them gets edited, waht's outside is protected
[07:25] <ompaul> jkp, interesting question, if you don't get an answer ask on, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users high volume but it would be the the best location to get an answer to that
[07:25] <ompaul> [Ex0r] , almost a point ;-)
[07:25] <gatekeeper> mneisen: damn small linux (which you could investigate and see if you could use it with ubuntu live cd) I think have a method of using a liveCD but saving your settings to a usb, or something like that
[07:25] <jkp> stefg: i saw the stuff in the config, i uncommented the line before, it hink it needs the comment left
[07:26] <stefg> yup
[07:26] <gatekeeper> mneisen: what is it that you feel ubuntu gives you that debian doesn't?
[07:26] <jkp> yeah that worked
[07:27] <mattnash> haakonn: I think you need to look at nsswitch.conf
[07:27] <haakonn> mattnash:  i even looked at that, but i didn't understand a lot ;)
[07:27] <afm\colossus_> "Ubuntu" is an ancient african word meaning "I can't configure Debian".
[07:27] <stefg> sure it did :-)... ubuntu is not SuSe , as i said earlier :-D
[07:27] <jkp> lol
[07:27] <gatekeeper> afm\colossus_: :-)
[07:27] <mattnash> haakonn: There should be a line that says hosts: -- change the order to files dns
[07:27] <haakonn> cool, i'll try
[07:28] <mattnash> haakonn: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/net-admin/ch07s03.html
[07:29] <filemover> ive figured it out polpak
[07:30] <filemover> i used chown which changed the permissions
[07:30] <polpak> filemover, chmod changes permissions chown changes ownership
[07:30] <filemover> thats it
[07:30] <filemover> yep
[07:30] <londondave> do you need tke kernel source to compile apps if you have the linux-headers?
[07:31] <filemover> the day only dawned on me just then
[07:31] <filemover> lol
[07:31] <filemover> thanx
[07:31] <polpak> londondave, only to compile kernel modules afaik
[07:31] <The> hello
[07:31] <londondave> polpak: I don't think I will be doing that, so I may as well remove it
[07:32] <polpak> londondave, useing apt yes ?
[07:32] <Foobal> londondave: applications should never be compiled against the kernel version specific headers.. that drives Linus Torvalds personally MAD. so yeah, the general kernel line specific headers should do
[07:32] <The> can someone help me with something.I need to buy an intel pentium 3 cpu and they want to know what socket i have.Where can i found this out if i don't have any motherboard manuals
[07:33] <polpak> The, you have to look it up online
[07:33] <colk> is it a card processor
[07:33] <polpak> The, it should have a model number on the motherboard
[07:33] <colk> or a socket
[07:33] <haakonn> mattnash:  thanks, but there's really no different no matter how i rearrange the "hosts:" line
[07:33] <colk> ie is the processor a vertical cartrige
[07:33] <haakonn> difference*
[07:33] <cparker> I'm looking into getting a wifi card for my laptop. What do people recommend?
[07:33] <colk> or is it in a socket
[07:34] <polpak> !wireless > cparker
[07:34] <londondave> Foobal: so don't bother with the source just use the right headers
[07:34] <polpak> cparker, one on the list ubotu sent you
[07:34] <polpak> cparker, if you want to be sure it's compatible
[07:34] <wubrgamer> heyguys
[07:35] <mattnash> haakonn: I'm looking... there may be a process restart required.
[07:35] <mneisen> gatekeeper: I think ubuntu gives me fresher software - if this does not hold true, I will go using debian on the server ... :-D
[07:35] <haakonn> looked for that too, but i don't see anything of relevance in /etc/init.d
[07:35] <colk> mneisen, actually debian can give you extremly fresh software
[07:35] <colk> uou just have to be using either sid or testing
[07:36] <nabil2199> hello i'm a newbie
[07:36] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[07:36] <wubrgamer> i just installed a vanilla "server" install
[07:36] <wubrgamer> not the fancy one that sets up LAMP
[07:36] <polpak> !enter
[07:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:37] <wubrgamer> polpal, shut up, if other people were speaking i wouldn't be doing that
[07:37] <londondave> sorry to be a pain, but I was using mandake and you had to use the kernel source, so in ubuntu you just need the headers?
[07:37] <wubrgamer> yep
[07:37] <polpak> londondave, you don't need the source
[07:37] <wubrgamer> wait, you shouldn't need the headers at all
[07:37] <londondave> polpak: thanks, I found that a bit confusing
[07:37] <mnvl> help i just upgraded to dapper last night, installed all codecs. now rhythmbox is skipping like a cd player when i play mp3's !
[07:38] <mnvl> reinstalled*
[07:38] <gatekeeper> londondave: what are you trying to do?
[07:38] <[Ex0r] > So... does anybody here know any free or open-source server management software, like cpanel or plesk ?
[07:38] <wubrgamer> anyway, how do i get ubuntu to auto install lamp in it's fancy way in an already installed system ?
[07:38] <mneisen> colk: thanks for the advice.
[07:38] <wubrgamer> phpmyadmin will take care of php
[07:38] <wubrgamer> i mean
[07:38] <wubrgamer> mysql
[07:39] <wubrgamer> lol
[07:39] <michael> hello all
[07:39] <krism> !rules > krism
[07:39] <gatekeeper> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper lots ofusefull howto including php etc: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[07:39] <londondave> gatekeeper: I compiled a driver (ueagle-atm) with kernel 2.6.15-25 which was updated to ...15-26, downloaded the headers and recompiled for the new kernel but I get symbol errors-it won't work
[07:39] <michael> does anybody here know of a good application to use to make small videos of my screen?
[07:40] <wubrgamer> istanbul
[07:40] <krism> anybody know how to turn OFF the bitchx away alert? (e.g. i dont want it to advertise to channel)
[07:40] <SurfnKid> isthatabul
[07:40] <SurfnKid> :P
[07:40] <londondave> gatekeeper: yet in works perfectly for 2.6.15-25?
[07:40] <polpak> wubrgamer, sudo apt-get install mysql php apache2
[07:40] <wubrgamer> i know that
[07:40] <wubrgamer> but what does the fancy new server cd do ?
[07:40] <wubrgamer> other than that ?
[07:40] <[Ex0r] > nothing
[07:41] <wubrgamer> seriously ? well, alright
[07:41] <chowells> installs a limited number of packages
[07:41] <wubrgamer> like ?
[07:41] <wubrgamer> is there a package
[07:41] <polpak> mysql, php, apache2
[07:41] <chowells> no gnome and kde
[07:41] <sledmouth> sqlite, php, lighttpd :)
[07:41] <[Ex0r] > wubrgamer- it installs the basics that would be on a server
[07:41] <[Ex0r] > no x, no gnome, etc
[07:41] <gatekeeper> londondave: do you know much about c++?
[07:42] <rredd4> I want to change which partition grub boots from, can someone help please?  grub is booting from my kubuntu partition now, I want to remove kubuntu and have grub boot off of the ubuntu partition
[07:42] <bulio> whats the command to see the current system version in Linux?
[07:42] <sledmouth> rredd4 !
[07:42] <polpak> bulio, uname -a
[07:42] <rredd4> sledmouth hi
[07:42] <londondave> gatekeeper: a little, someone said that my gcc version may be causing the problem?
[07:42] <bulio> thanks
[07:42] <rredd4> sledmouth googled... did not find the answer
[07:42] <Jack_Sparrow> My last update didnt see my XP....
[07:42] <wubrgamer> re-install grub on the partition you want
[07:42] <asdasd> QUESTION: How can I share e-mail contacts WITHOUT using LDAP?
[07:43] <londondave> gatekeeper: I had a router but now I'm stuck with this adsl modem as I don't if the NIC has packed up-it's a laptop
[07:43] <mattnash> haakonn: also check /etc/host.conf.  Is your only problem that localhost doesn't resolve?  Check your lo interface and make sure it has an address.
[07:44] <sledmouth> rredd4 what is the partition u want to boot ?
[07:44] <[Ex0r] > Hmm, how does one install SSLeay ?
[07:44] <rredd4> sledmouth hda5  menu.lst says its hd0,4
[07:44] <sledmouth> then u do the following
[07:44] <sledmouth> type 'grub'
[07:45] <sledmouth> then u will see grub prompt
[07:45] <gatekeeper> londondave: I doubt it has much to do with gcc although you can get differnces moving from one compiler to the next, my guess is the kernel header have changed, I would need to see the errors, although I am not familiar with linux kernel code
[07:45] <Leafw> which libs are needed for .mov files to play in totem movie player ?
[07:45] <Leafw> libmpeg ?
[07:45] <Leafw> !mov
[07:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about mov - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:45] <Leafw> !movies
[07:45] <rredd4> sledmouth ok
[07:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about movies - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:45] <sledmouth> rredd4 grub> root (hd0,4)
[07:45] <Leafw> !movie
[07:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about movie - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:45] <rredd4> ok
[07:45] <wubrgamer> sudo grub-update
[07:45] <sledmouth> rredd4 grub> setup (hd0)
[07:45] <haakonn> mattnash:  host.conf has "order hosts,bind", lo has ip 127.0.0.1. the problem is that anything i put in hosts does not resolve, and host -v says it asks the ISP nameserver (which fails for my local /etc/hosts names) and then gives up. now i want to set up the leafnode program, which requires to be able to resolve localhost
[07:45] <sledmouth> rredd4 grub> quit
[07:45] <polpak> [Ex0r] , SSLeay the perl module?
[07:46] <sledmouth> rredd4 then reboot
[07:46] <Lighty> Hi.
[07:46] <rredd4> ty
[07:46] <gatekeeper> londondave: ideally you need the person who did the driver to fix the problem
[07:46] <londondave> gatekeeper: i downloaded the headers for the new kernel version, and the driver compiled and installed without errors, just won't work with the new kernel-a bit of a mystery
[07:46] <[Ex0r] > polpak- yeah, I found it in apt. Typed in the wrong name :)
[07:46] <polpak> [Ex0r] , np
[07:47] <mthizozo> hey guys if I want to check php version that I'm using on ubuntu, how do I check it?
[07:47] <londondave> gatekeeper: maybe they will update ueagle soon as I can't be the only one with the problem-thanks though
[07:47] <gatekeeper> londondave: put the error in pastebin I will take a look not promising anything
[07:47] <polpak> dpkg -l php
[07:47] <sledmouth> rredd4 ?
[07:47] <londondave> what's pastebin
[07:47] <polpak> !pastebin
[07:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:47] <rredd4> sledmouth  ok, ty  how do i verify that it is working on ubuntu?
[07:47] <mattnash> haakonn: Yes, resolving localhost is very important.  Can you reboot the whole thing?  I can't find anything that suggests you should have to restart anything.
[07:48] <sledmouth> what was output after setup (hd0) rredd4 ?
[07:48] <sledmouth> succeeded?
[07:48] <haakonn> mattnash:  i could certainly try a reboot. thanks for your time :)
[07:48] <rredd4> sledmouth  I have to reboot into ubuntu  brb
[07:48] <mattnash> haakonn: actually host -v does the same thing to me but localhost resolves on a ping
[07:48] <tahorg> hi, anyone using flumotion on dapper ?
[07:48] <sledmouth> rredd4 , to verify that it is working, put in a bogus line just to check
[07:49] <gorski> why i cannot resize the root partition of ubuntu with qtparted?
[07:49] <haakonn> oh interesting
[07:49] <sledmouth> in menu.lst
[07:49] <rredd4> sledmouth  ok
[07:49] <stefg> gorski: because it's mounted
[07:49] <polpak> gorski, probably because it's curently mounted?
[07:49] <polpak> gorski, try booting off the cd
[07:49] <haakonn> mattnash:  ping manages to resolve localhost actually
[07:49] <truz_`24> When are we going to start the opensource version of clonecd?
[07:49] <gorski> and?
[07:49] <rredd4> sledmouth  should i do the grub shell in kubuntu or ubuntu?
[07:49] <polpak> gorski, use gparted from the live cd environment
[07:49] <haakonn> mattnash:  is host (or something in that system) using negative name caching or something? hmm
[07:49] <gorski> how will i resize it from the cd?
[07:50] <gorski> there is a gparted on a live cd?
[07:50] <londondave> gatekeeper: thanks I will find the errors in syslog and put in pastebin, thanks polpak
[07:50] <polpak> gorski, yes
[07:50] <gorski> ok, tnx a lot, bye!
[07:50] <mattnash> haakonn: Not to my knowledge, which is limited.
[07:50] <haakonn> well, i'll try a reboot
[07:51] <mattnash> haakonn: So does the leafnode install, or the application itself, still not work?
[07:51] <haakonn> mattnash:  dpkg-reconfigure exits complaining about not being able to resolve localhost
[07:51] <kakado> mthizozo, try php -v
[07:51] <ompaul> truz_`24, me I like gnomebaker or k3b
[07:51] <[Ex0r] > something happened to my install..
[07:51] <londondave> gatekeeper:
[07:51] <londondave> disagrees about version of symbol usbatm_usb_probe
[07:51] <londondave> Jul 14 12:13:47 david-laptop kernel: [17179925.528000]  ueagle_atm: Unknown symbol usbatm_usb_probe
[07:52] <rredd4> sledmouth  do this in ubuntu or kubuntu?  or does it matter?
[07:52] <[Ex0r] > i go to open an application, and it puts it at the bottom, says starting, and than goes away
[07:52] <sledmouth> ubuntu
[07:52] <sledmouth> since it is on ur hda5
[07:52] <sledmouth> hd0,4
[07:52] <sledmouth> !
[07:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:52] <Remillard> Has anyone had trouble getting the PLF repository to list properly today?
[07:52] <rredd4> sledmouth  thanks!!
[07:52] <ompaul> !paste
[07:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:52] <haakonn> mattnash:  hmm, hang on, now it says my hostname is not a fqdn (which is right), i'll look into that
[07:52] <stefg> PLF seems offline (at least for most of the time)
[07:53] <Gasten> If I've lost a couples of files when I switched to Ubuntu from win98 (through deletion), how can I get them back?
[07:53] <ompaul> stefg, true
[07:53] <Remillard> stefg: ahh... not all that useful then I suppose
[07:53] <rredd4> sledmouth  i will have to do this a little later.... my gf is using the desktop... but many thanks for your great help!!
[07:53] <polpak> Gasten, restore from your backups
[07:53] <stefg> Seveas' repos could provide a couple of needed packages
[07:53] <sledmouth> anytime rredd4
[07:54] <mthizozo> kakado, it says the command not found
[07:54] <Gasten> polpak: Yes. I know. You have no reson for being a fucker.
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Gasten: Depends on how they were deleted
[07:54] <polpak> !language
[07:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:54] <sledmouth> ya!
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> If you overwrote that partition during the install chances are slim
[07:54] <asdasd> QUESTION: How can I share e-mail contacts WITHOUT using LDAP?
[07:54] <kakado> mthizozo, use synaptics to install or check version
[07:55] <gatekeeper> londondave: Unknown symbol usbatm_usb_probe it's looking for a function called usbatm_usb_probe() which doesn't seem to exist (i.e. no prototype for it in the kernel headers possible) search the old source code for that fuction
[07:55] <skavenge> theres no chance if he formatted the same partition 98 was on to ubuntu
[07:55] <stefg> asdasd: what email MUA?
[07:55] <gatekeeper> londondave: make snce to you?
[07:55] <gatekeeper> sence even oops
[07:56] <londondave> gatekeeper: yes, but I'm still confused why it complies as it needs the prototype to build?
[07:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Gasten: How did you delete the files is the first question we need to know
[07:56] <asdasd> stefg: MUA? MTA?
[07:56] <londondave> gatekeeper: compiles even
[07:56] <haakonn> mattnash:  fixed that by adding ".mydomain" to my hostname :) host still cannot resolve localhost, but i don't know how critical that is
[07:56] <stefg> Mail user agent... thunderbird, evolution, Outlook Express ... errr, no i messed something up :-)
[07:56] <gatekeeper> londondave: you saying it compiles but does not link?
[07:57] <mattnash> haakonn: host is supposed to use nsswitch.conf if it is using gethostbyname... I don't know what its problem is.
[07:57] <eyequeue> haakonn, want your localhost fixed?
[07:57] <asdasd> stefg Thunderbird : )
[07:57] <[Ex0r] > err, what the heck. I cannot open ANY of my programs. They all close.
[07:57] <haakonn> eyequeue:  i guess? :)
[07:57] <londondave> gatekeeper: it compiles and installs without any errors, same as it did for the previous kernel and headers-bit weird
[07:57] <ompaul> [Ex0r] , have you rebooted since you started getting issues?
[07:57] <haakonn> a reboot will probably fix it
[07:58] <[Ex0r] > ompaul- Nope, but why should I have to? I didn't do anything for the issues to start, they just started.
[07:58] <stefg> you could try to symlink the addressbook of all the users to one common file... as long as not 2 users try to edit at the same time
[07:58] <eyequeue> haakonn, grep localhost /etc/hosts
[07:58] <mthizozo> Kakado, I'm newbie here so I'm not sure what do you mean if you say "synaptics"
[07:58] <polpak> [Ex0r] , you can check your system memory.. you may have something using it all
[07:58] <gatekeeper> londondave: now I am confused I thought you sais that it did not compile with the new kernel?
[07:58] <eyequeue> haakonn, get a line with 127.0.0.1 in it?
[07:58] <asdasd> stefg the users are on seperate computers
[07:58] <haakonn> eyequeue:  sure do
[07:58] <kakado> mthizozo, the package program in ubuntu
[07:58] <stefg> asdasd: so put the adressbook on a fileserver
[07:59] <haakonn> eyequeue:  '127.0.0.1 kozelek kozelek.mydomain localhost.localdomain localhost' (it's a mess, but i've tried "everything") :)
[07:59] <eyequeue> haakonn, okay, the simple fix doesn't apply :) sorry :)
[07:59] <londondave> gatekeeper: sorry for that, no ueagle-atm compiles and installs no problem, but the log gives that error when the laptop boots and the modem will not work
[07:59] <asdasd> stefg i dont think it works that way...then i have to use LDAP?
[07:59] <eyequeue> haakonn, that's the most commomn cause, but you're all set there
[08:00] <mthizozo> kakado, oh! you mean the package manager, thanks I will check there
[08:00] <londondave> gatekeeper: yet excactly the same process worked fine for the previous kernel which I'm using now or no internet
[08:00] <amy_> finger Amy
[08:00] <amy_> :)
[08:00] <stefg> asdasd: why shouldn't it work... i access my linux addressbook over samba from a vmware win-install
[08:01] <ompaul> [Ex0r] , to check how your memory is eing used if you can run a single terminal in there run "free" and see what comes back
[08:01] <asdasd> stefg how do you do that? I have an ubuntu server where I would like to keep the "master" e-mail contact list, then I want the other ten computers to have access to the list through thunderbird, and optimally be able to add/remove new contacts
[08:02] <potatodemon> What is a good web based network traffic monitoring tool that is easy to setup?
[08:02] <gatekeeper> londondave: missing dependency probable, i.e. missing library file where it is installed, bit wierd that it linked in the first place unless it has moved the binaries to a new location and the binary doesn't have access to that lib
[08:02] <ibob63> Password protect an archive using the tar command?
[08:02] <amy_> I'm having some trouble with my soundcard.  Ubuntu seems to be running drivers for it, but nothing works... thoughts?
[08:03] <Seveas> ibob63, use gpg
[08:03] <stefg> asdasd: put the addressbook preferrably on a nfs share, and make symlinks from all user profiles to that file... that's it
[08:03] <Seveas> gpg --encrypt < foo.tar > foo.tar.gpg
[08:03] <eyequeue> ibob63, gpg -c it, after you tar it
[08:03] <ibob63> thanks - I have a play :)
[08:04] <stefg> stefg: but be aware that there's not really an access control... could be hazardous
[08:04] <londondave> gatekeeper: it just build the *.ko files and puts them in /lib/modules/version/extras why it is failing I'm not sure looks like a bug
[08:04] <Seveas> stefg, you're talking to yourself 
[08:04] <stefg> thanks for the hint
[08:05] <jkp> stefg: so, how can i install a basic gnome desktop, not OO and shit?
[08:05] <sztanpet> how do i add something to the run level so it runs at boot
[08:05] <jkp> i looked at ubuntu-desktop but that includes everything
[08:05] <[Ex0r] > !tell jkp about language
[08:05] <stefg> find the right metapackage ... dpkg -l | grep gnome
[08:05] <xulas> ola
[08:05] <veer> Hi
[08:05] <jkp> stefg: there are a lot when you grep gnome :)
[08:05] <cberlo> Hi folks.  Got a question about locking down the Gnome Desktop (okay, maybe several questions).  Can I prevent users from right-clicking to "Create Launcher" on the desktop or anywhere else; also, can I hide the Places menu somehow?
[08:06] <veer> anyone experience linux users around and got a few minutes to spare? I require some technical help
[08:06] <gatekeeper> londondave: could be there are some google references to Unknown symbol usbatm_usb_probe
[08:06] <stefg> you've got 300 lines of buffer haven't you ?
[08:06] <kakado> mthizozo, you probably want libapache2-mod-php4/5
[08:06] <stefg> :-)
[08:06] <ompaul> Seveas, bug
[08:06] <londondave> gatekeeper: good idea and thanks
[08:06] <Crescendo> What would people recommend for making a flowchart, partcularly tournament brackets?
[08:06] <Seveas> ompaul, see that
[08:06] <eyequeue> !ask
[08:06] <gatekeeper> veer ask your question
[08:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:06] <Seveas> look at -ops
[08:06] <[Ex0r] > Crescendo- word
[08:06] <xulas> putos ingleses
[08:07] <snoops> Crescendo there's dia and um kivio
[08:07] <veer> Ok firstly I am new to Ubuntu, i just installed it few hours ago. My question, is how do i go about configuring ubuntu so that I can access my windows files?
[08:07] <polpak> !ntfs > veer
[08:07] <polpak> veer,  read the message from ubotu
[08:07] <eyequeue> Seveas, i was wondering if we had any spanish speaking ops ;)
[08:07] <Jack_Sparrow> veer what type of partition
[08:07] <gatekeeper> londondave: if the older kernel worked unless you have some very pressing need for the newer I would go back to the older one
[08:07] <Seveas> eyequeue, I know enough spanish to not want to be a puta
[08:08] <eyequeue> Seveas, yeah, i probablu couldn't survive in spain, but i know tha naughty stuff
[08:08] <wubrgamer> [Ex0r] : hey guys
[08:08] <wubrgamer> *hey guys
[08:08] <veer> Polpak I got the ubotu, i have seen it before
[08:08] <veer> My partition is ntfs
[08:08] <R3p> kubuntu.pl
[08:09] <wubrgamer> have you heard of grub error 15 ?
[08:09] <polpak> veer,  well that page will tell you how to mount your windows partition
[08:09] <polpak> veer, which will give you access to the files
[08:09] <snoops> veer reading is no problem..writing is.. a problem that is
[08:09] <wubrgamer> grub error 15
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> veer: do you intend to write to the ntfs or just read
[08:09] <wubrgamer> !!!
[08:09] <stefg> jkp: searching synaptic there does not seem to be a good metapackage... maybe start with gnome-panel and nautilus and see what's missing after that
[08:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about !! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:09] <londondave> gatekeeper: I am just have to remember not to let it boot with the new kernel :)
[08:09] <jkp> stefg: cool...one more quickie
[08:09] <asta> #kampung
[08:09] <jkp> what command can i run to see what a certain deb depends on?
[08:09] <nihilocrat> what's a good GNOME program for taking a screenshot?
[08:10] <veer> Polpak I dont mind writing, as long as i can access (read ) basic stuff, like music, videos etc
[08:10] <skavenge> regardless of video format or what program its playing in my videos wash out bright white randomly during an x session .. restarting X fixes it. i dunno what on earth is going on ;/ Anyone with any ideas?
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> veer: I setup a small fat 32 partition to pass files back and forth to and from windows
[08:10] <nihilocrat> !screenshot
[08:10] <ubotu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the file -> acquire menu in the Gimp. Screenshots can be posted on the !pastebin
[08:10] <nihilocrat> oh, okay
[08:10] <eyequeue> jkp, apt-cache show foo | grep Depends (where foo is package name)
[08:10] <veer> Jack_sparrow: I intent to read
[08:10] <jkp> eyequeue: thanks
[08:10] <eyequeue> jkp, np
[08:11] <veer> writing should not be a problem, since most of my downloading and stuff is done in xp
[08:11] <jkp> eyequeue: no, thats the wrong way actually
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter can mount them and place icons on your desktop
[08:11] <jkp> i want to see what will be installed if i install package x
[08:11] <[Ex0r] > Anyone here familiar with postfix for ubuntu ?
[08:11] <gatekeeper> londondave: if there are very minor version number changes it's probable not worth the hassle dealing with the newer kernel
[08:11] <polpak> veer, that's less than advisable. much fewer virii in linux
[08:11] <stefg> jkp: very good question... i don't know from memory... use synaptic sissie-style for that... any senior can help?
[08:11] <eyequeue> jkp, what did you want to see that the command doesn't provide?
[08:11] <kakado> !hibernate
[08:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about hibernate - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:11] <mneisen> !suspend
[08:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about suspend - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:12] <jkp> eyequeue: i want to see what packages are going to be installed if i try install foo
[08:12] <jkp> ie what its dependencies are
[08:12] <veer> Ah a
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> veer:  USe Linux for the internet, and not XP.  pass files with fat32 that you need in windows
[08:12] <soulfly> hi there, do i need the alternate install cd for softwareraid?
[08:12] <eyequeue> jkp, okay, some of the dependencieds may have their own dependencies, you'd have to run that command on each of them
[08:12] <soulfly> or is the desktop cd ok?
[08:12] <jkp> right
[08:12] <stefg> jkp: you can always use aptitude... ncurses frontend to apt
[08:12] <polpak> soulfly, you mean LVM?
[08:12] <Kristophe> Anybody knows how to print lots of pictures, 2 per page, without having to do it page per page in oofice?
[08:12] <eyequeue> jkp, was that the part that it omitted? if not, let me know what more it needs and maybe i can help better
[08:12] <londondave> gatekeeper: I agree it's just this will be a problem now after each kernel update, looking on google I'm not the only one with the prob, it seems ueagle works with some kernels but not others-very strange
[08:12] <jkp> stefg: aye
[08:13] <polpak> soulfly, you need the alternate install CD for LVM support afaik
[08:13] <soulfly> polpak, i dont know? i want to make a raid 1 install
[08:13] <veer> So how do i go about it, create fresh partitons then, including one fat32?
[08:13] <johankj65> anybody knows how to remove the minimize trails in gnome?
[08:13] <soulfly> polpak, over two harddisks,,, do i need LVM then?
[08:14] <rredd4> sledmouth  I typed in those commands, rebooted, now I have no grub
[08:14] <gatekeeper> londondave: such is life, you would have to know what is going on the kernel development to really get a handle on the problems
[08:14] <eyequeue> jkp, apt-cache show foo <<<< that part tells all about package foo .... and .... that part says "just the dependencies please" >>>>>| grep Depends
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> veer:  you can use autocomplete to finish a persons nickname which highlights the test for the person you are talking with
[08:14] <Chousuke> eyequeue: apt-cache depends package?
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> veer: Use the tab key
[08:15] <eyequeue> Chousuke, apt-cache show package
[08:15] <veer> Jack_Sparrow: I got it, thanks.
[08:15] <londondave> gatekeeper: think i'd better find a way to get back to using a router and this nonsense will go away
[08:15] <Chousuke> I mean
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> veer:  is your current drive empty
[08:15] <Chousuke> you can get dependencies directlu.
[08:15] <veer> nope
[08:15] <Chousuke> ly*
[08:15] <veer> Jack_Sparrow: I am planning to reformat my whole computer and start a fresh
[08:16] <veer> Jack_Sparrow: Since I have way to much junk i need to get rid off, and i wish to install linux fresh aswell
[08:16] <mthizozo> Kakado,thank you I've checked it, it's libapache2-mod-php5, keep well
[08:16] <Jack_Sparrow> veer WIfe has breakfast almost ready.  Assuming fresh, make a windows partition and install windows using half you drive.
[08:16] <gatekeeper> londondave: sounds like a good idea. Unless there is a security issue, I go with 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' :-)
[08:16] <stefg> sudo apt-cache depends [package]  seems correct... says man apt-cache
[08:16] <rredd4> I have no grub on my desktop, how do I get it back?
[08:16] <veer> Jack_Sparrow: got it
[08:16] <jkp> stefg: ta
[08:16] <eyequeue> Chousuke, i see that yours was a suggestion now, but i don't like all the extraneous recommends and suggests, nor the preaking onto separate lines ... personal tastes i guess
[08:16] <veer> Jack_Sparrow: I shall try it otu
[08:17] <veer> Jack_Sparrow: *out
[08:17] <eyequeue> s/preaking/breaking/
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Using windows create a fat32 partition of 10 gig or whatever you have room for, then run live cd and tell it to use all unpartitioned space
[08:17] <severous> hello people
[08:17] <polpak> veer, then yes, make 4 partitions, 1 nfts (probably the first one (primary), a fat32 (logical), an ext3 (logical), and a linux swap(logical)
[08:17] <snoops> why bother using fat32? if you want to access your ext3 shares in windows just use the ext3 driver for windows
[08:17] <finalbeta> I'm using vnc viewer to take over a ubuntu desktop from a ubuntu desktop, after I scrol inside a window, like Xchat, all text scrols on top of eachother. Not usable. Help...
[08:17] <severous> how do i get shell scripts working??
[08:18] <gatekeeper> Jack_Sparrow: have you shrunk your windows partition to make room for linux partion(s)?
[08:18] <eyequeue> snoops, that's not ficitious?  i'd heard it was
[08:18] <londondave> gatekeeper: thats the only drawback with this dell laptop, if the NIC fails u need to use pmcia cards or whetever they are called, at least with a tower you can just change it
[08:18] <veer> polpak: got it, I will try it out, should i create these partitions using the windows partiton?
[08:18] <jkp> finalbeta: use nxserver :)
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> polpak: I prefer to let the Live CD set it up instead of having the user try to point to the right partitions.  Some are very new to this.. gotta go eat..
[08:18] <snoops> eyequeue the driver works brilliantly here
[08:18] <polpak> veer, you can use the live CD to create the partitions, then install windows first
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> gatekeeper: system here is fine
[08:18] <veer> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks for your help, very much apperecieat it
[08:18] <eyequeue> severous, if you've written one and want it to be be executable, chmod +x foo, is one way., then "./foo"
[08:18] <polpak> veer, then you can install ubuntu
[08:19] <Linux_Boy> yo people
[08:19] <polpak> veer, when you install ubuntu be sure not to use the "standard" install (will remove all partitions and reformat)
[08:19] <eyequeue> snoops, is there a catch perhaps?  non-free or something?  i'm just wondering why i don't see more using it
[08:19] <snoops> eyequeue well, the driver doesn't have journalling
[08:19] <polpak> veer, but it should be fairly automatic from there since you'll have only 1 place ubuntu can install to
[08:19] <finalbeta> jkp, so this is normal? Why does ubuntu use it by default then?
[08:19] <gatekeeper> veer: there is a google video that walks you through the process of dual booting
[08:19] <Linux_Boy> How I disable shift+backspace from rebooting X server
[08:19] <eyequeue> snoops, ah, so it's ext2 only then?
[08:20] <jkp> finalbeta: nxserver is not opensource
[08:20] <veer> gatekeeper: really ,can you link it to me please?
[08:20] <polpak> Linux_Boy, stop using XGL
[08:20] <jkp> but it is shed loads better than antying else out there
[08:20] <jkp> well worth using
[08:20] <Linux_Boy> How u knew
[08:20] <polpak> Linux_Boy, there may be another way.. but you'll have to ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:20] <veer> polpak: So I reformat my hard disk, install windows, then create partitons, and install via live?
[08:20] <snoops> right eyequeue - but is absolutely perfect for sharing files between
[08:20] <gatekeeper> veer: hang on I will see if I can find it again...
[08:20] <polpak> Linux_Boy, because XGL is what's making it do that
[08:20] <veer> gatekeeper: Thank thee
[08:20] <eyequeue> snoops, gotcha :)
[08:20] <[Ex0r] > darn wine
[08:20] <Linux_Boy> o ok
[08:21] <finalbeta> jkp, I only need to use it on a local lan. resources are not the problem.
[08:21] <polpak> veer, no, boot with the live CD. and create the partitions. Then reboot and install windows on those partitions, then install ubuntu off the live cd
[08:21] <snoops> eyequeue www.fs-driver.org fyi :) - very easy install.. and a whole lot of 'just works' and beats the hell out of fat32
[08:21] <jkp> i still think   its worth it
[08:21] <polpak> veer, windows will only see the ntfs and fat32 partitions
[08:21] <veer> polpak: Gotcha. I was just a bit unclear, thanks for clearifying
[08:22] <gatekeeper> veer: not sure if this is breezy or dapper but the process one or another is basically the same: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[08:22] <snoops> polpak and ext2/3 if you install the driver I mentioned above
[08:22] <gatekeeper> veer: there is load loads of info if you google ubuntu dual boot
[08:22] <eyequeue> snoops, i'll try to recall that to give out later (no personal need here, but i'm sure someone i talk to will have one, thanks))
[08:23] <veer> gatekeeper: Thank thee, I shall have a look at it now,
[08:23] <gatekeeper> veer: yw good luck :-)
[08:23] <snoops> eyequeue most welcome :)
[08:23] <eyequeue> snoops, and i gather it has ext2 write support, unlike ntfs in linux? :)
[08:23] <veer> gatekeeper: Thanks :)
[08:23] <usul> hey I have a problem booting ubuntu (dapper) when NOT connected to the net. I get an error saying Nautilus won't start because of an bonobo error!?! Can anyone help?
[08:23] <Nitefall> apparently xchat for ubuntu doesn't log, even thoug I have logging enabled?
[08:23] <polpak> veer, you can always try again if it doesn't work out the way you want
[08:24] <polpak> veer, it's good experience
[08:24] <eyequeue> Nitefall, did you create the log dir?
[08:24] <Nitefall> no, shouldn't xchat have done that?
[08:24] <usul> Perhaps there is a way to bypass by not configuring the connection by default?
[08:25] <Seveas> ooh fun
[08:25] <usul> hey I have a problem booting ubuntu (dapper) when NOT connected to the net. I get an error saying Nautilus won't start because of an bonobo error!?! Can anyone help?
[08:25] <veer> polpak: Your very right, this is my first time I am installing ubuntu, and by trial and error hopefully i'll get it sorted
[08:25] <eyequeue> Nitefall, here i have .xchat2/xchatlogs/* (server and channel named logs)
[08:25] <Seveas> everyone who was just kicked: read this:
[08:25] <Seveas> !exploit
[08:25] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[08:27] <skavenge> any other way than the firmware? i dont have access to the router ;/
[08:27] <Seveas> skavenge, connect to port 8001 on freenode
[08:27] <ompaul> skavenge, connect to this server on port 8001
[08:27] <skavenge> thanks guys
[08:27] <ompaul> yw
[08:27] <eyequeue> Nitefall, it may be possible xchat only sources its config files on restart?
[08:28] <ompaul> Seveas, amazing the stuff we keep in our heads :)
[08:28] <Seveas> eyequeue, parts of the config indeed only work after restart
[08:28] <eyequeue> Seveas, thanks
[08:29] <Nitefall> hm, found them
[08:29] <Nitefall> yay
[08:29] <usul> I cant boot into a session on my laptop when im not connected, nautilus wont run, bonobo erro?!? Does anyone know how to fix this? Im on powerpc.
[08:29] <Seveas> usul, pastebin /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/hosts
[08:30] <usul> Seveas, where to pastebin?
[08:30] <Seveas> !pastebin
[08:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:30] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[08:30] <wubrgamer> i really messed up
[08:30] <wubrgamer> what do i do ?
[08:30] <wubrgamer> grub 15
[08:30] <Seveas> woohoo
[08:30] <Seveas> the -unregged trick works
[08:30] <Seveas> botflood in -unregged 
[08:31] <eyequeue> lol
[08:31] <[Ex0r] > could somebody here be of some assistance with postfix please ?
[08:31] <WarOfAttrition> shi?
[08:31] <Chousuke> WarOfAttrition: tsu. :p
[08:31] <WarOfAttrition> Chousuke: ???
[08:31] <Chousuke> "???" ?
[08:32] <Chousuke> Seveas seems to think it's a smiley. ;P
[08:32] <ajayc> richiefrich: u dere?
[08:32] <veer> polpak: Haha You won't beleive it I just sovled the problem
[08:32] <veer> just straight away
[08:32] <WarOfAttrition> o_O
[08:32] <WarOfAttrition> I lost it
[08:32] <Chousuke> WarOfAttrition: talking about ""
[08:33] <nihilocrat> unicode, lads!
[08:33] <akcom>  is gay as shit
[08:33] <nihilocrat> I like the arabic smiley better :P
[08:33] <nihilocrat> I don't know how to write it though :/
[08:33] <Seveas> guys, this is not #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:33] <polpak> veer, which problem ?
[08:33] <nihilocrat> ok
[08:33] <eyequeue> wubrgamer, someone addressing your error 15 yet?
[08:34] <veer> polpak: about not being able to access the windows files
[08:34] <veer> polpak:
[08:34] <polpak> veer, ah. yes
[08:34] <polpak> veer, the instructions are fairly explicit
[08:34] <veer> polpak: someone linked me a script, i just had to run it via the terminal
[08:35] <veer> polpak: But Thanks a lot for your time and help, very much appreciate it. :)
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> veer: YEa that works well
[08:35] <polpak> veer, eh.. ok
[08:35] <Redrose> how do i combine several text files?
[08:35] <polpak> veer, remind me to link you a script or two ;p
[08:35] <WarOfAttrition> I got it
[08:35] <usul> Seveas -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18017
[08:36] <eyequeue> Redrose, you may want cat file1 file2 file3 > bigfile
[08:36] <Chousuke> WarOfAttrition: I only see "????"
[08:36] <Chousuke> WarOfAttrition: Are you very confused about something or what?
[08:36] <veer> polpak: Hehe sure thing :)
[08:36] <WarOfAttrition> I see the text, I guess we see different things
[08:36] <Seveas> usul, that's one, now the other please 
[08:37] <usul> Seveas -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18019
[08:38] <abo> !restrictedformats
[08:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:38] <Seveas> usul, odd... those look ok
[08:38] <PaoloC> is there anybody running vanilla kernels? I cannot manange to have HAL auto mounting my usb key.... http://pastebin.com/748173
[08:38] <Dr_Sato> Stange I somehow got kicked out of unregged but didn't reg myself yet?
[08:38] <Redrose> mmk, thanks... also
[08:38] <usul> hmm yeah they are by default -- but I dont get why it doestn boo up when disconnected
[08:38] <Dr_Sato> Anybody an idea?
[08:38] <Redrose> how do i open something in a console, but not havethe program close when i close the console?
[08:39] <usul> perhaps there is a way to bypass connecting?
[08:39] <Seveas> Redrose, put an & at the end of the command
[08:39] <stefg> usul: just an idea.. did you change the /etc/hostname without editing /etc/host to represent a hostname cahnge?
[08:39] <Redrose> but then when i close the window, it closes too
[08:39] <ThunderStruck> Redrose: not if you add th & at the end
[08:39] <ThunderStruck> s/th/the
[08:39] <JoaoJoao> hello
[08:40] <ThunderStruck> hi JoaoJoao
[08:40] <Seveas> Redrose, like this: gedit ~/.bashrc &
[08:40] <usul> stefg no, nothing of the kind.
[08:40] <Chousuke> WarOfAttrition: Well, I'm using UTF-8
[08:40] <JoaoJoao> the current Ubuntu bacula package doesn't support TLS, is there a package somewhere else with TLS support?
[08:41] <WarOfAttrition> UTF-8 can't seem to set it in konversation
[08:41] <usul> stefg I checked and localhosts match
[08:41] <Chousuke> WarOfAttrition: That's weird.
[08:41] <stefg> righty... one point to rule out
[08:41] <Seveas> usul, did you change your hostname?
[08:42] <usul> Im using a powerpc and I always get this error, even when using a default live CD
[08:42] <Seveas> that is really odd... :/
[08:42] <usul> Seveas no, I didn't change the hostname, its been the same since the install
[08:43] <WarOfAttrition> it seems konversation sucks after all. then again kde / qt seems to be bad at mixing foreign text
[08:44] <coffeebreak> hi, I keep upgrading ubuntu and I get all these new versions in my boot loader. can I just delete the old versions from my boot menu list? and do these updates clutter my system?
[08:44] <usul> Is there a way to tell ubuntu that i want to boot without connecting to the web?
[08:44] <Seveas> coffeebreak, you should remove older kernel packages
[08:44] <theapoc> I'm about to install windows on my machine, on a different partition. I have ubuntu installed on another. How do I go about installing XP w/o killing grub?
[08:44] <Seveas> that'll remove them from the boot menu too
[08:44] <polpak> coffeebreak, if you uninstall the old kernel packages they won't show up in the grub menu
[08:44] <Seveas> theapoc, you don't
[08:44] <eyequeue> coffeebreak, dpkg --purge the old packages
[08:45] <PaoloC> is there anybody running vanilla kernels? I cannot manange to have HAL auto mounting my usb key.... http://pastebin.com/748173
[08:45] <Seveas> xp is too autistic to cate about others
[08:45] <polpak> theapoc, you'll need to reinstall grub after you install windows
[08:45] <theapoc> polpak: How do I get linux booted once I have winders installed? Will I have to add it to the boot record in windows?
[08:45] <oblib> I am trying to get a kernel-doc package for me kernel, but can't find kernel-docs-2.6.12 listed in my apt-cache search. Any help? I'm still on Breezy
[08:45] <eyequeue> coffeebreak, the old ones don't hurt anything other than take up space btw, if you're worried
[08:45] <polpak> theapoc, you can boot the live CD
[08:46] <polpak> !grub > theapoc
[08:46] <Seveas> !grub
[08:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:46] <Seveas> heh
[08:46] <polpak> theapoc, read the msg from ubotu
[08:46] <coffeebreak> ok, tnx so i input "sudo dpkg --purge" right?
[08:46] <eyequeue> oblib, sudo apt-get install linux-doc-2.6.12
[08:46] <coffeebreak> or is there another way to uninstall them
[08:46] <theapoc> ok thanks polpak
[08:47] <Agiofws> hello is there  the executable  xorgconfig in ubuntu ?
[08:47] <Seveas> yes
[08:47] <stefg> coffeebreak: synaptic... aptitude
[08:47] <oblib> Thanks eyequeue
[08:47] <Seveas> but you should use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:47] <oblib> they're always changing things . . . :)
[08:47] <eyequeue> oblib, "sudo apt-get install linux-doc" might even be enough to pull the "current" docs (for your release) in
[08:48] <Orunitia> why is it I can't set mount points on the new installer?... or am I missing something obvious
[08:48] <Redman276> !routing
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about routing - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:48] <Redman276> !networking
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:48] <Redman276> hmmmm
[08:48] <Redman276> !dhcp
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about dhcp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:49] <Seveas> !msgthebot
[08:49] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[08:49] <Redman276> ;|
[08:49] <Redman276> lol
[08:49] <eyequeue> or ask the channel a specific question
[08:49] <Redman276> anyone using ubuntu as a router ?
[08:49] <Seveas> !anyone
[08:50] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:50] <theapoc> Hey polpak, if you could answer me one more question. How do I find which partition is my ubuntu and which is my will-be xp partition?
[08:50] <polpak> !fishing
[08:50] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[08:50] <polpak> !enter
[08:50] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:50] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl synatics is broken keep getting errorThe following packages have unmet dependencies.
[08:50] <homerh_linux>   samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[08:50] <homerh_linux>   swat: Depends: samba (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[08:50] <homerh_linux> E: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:50] <PyroticShadow> !paste
[08:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:50] <Seveas> sigh
[08:50] <theapoc> polpak, the sizes are similar and in the xp setup it shows one as 76 gig and one as 74, but in ubuntu it shows one as 70 and one as 74 (im assuming its not counting swap?)
[08:50] <Otacon22> anyone know how to use gmailfs?
[08:51] <polpak> wasn't playing.. that was for Redman276 's benifit
[08:51] <Redman276> long day Seveas?
[08:51] <Seveas> !anyone > Otacon22
[08:51] <Redman276> i have a 3rd  box that  i want  to turn into a router
[08:51] <Otacon22> mihahah
[08:51] <Redman276> 2 nic cards  and  ubuntu
[08:52] <ubuntu> I installed windows on a seperate HD and I want to restore grub
[08:52] <polpak> theapoc, well if ubuntu is installed on it, it should show up as an unknown partition type in windows, and linux should show the windows one as ntfs
[08:52] <Seveas> Redman276, do you plan on installing a gui on it?
[08:52] <JoaoJoao> Hm I guess I'll have to install Bacula 1.38 from the source
[08:52] <polpak> !grub > ubuntu
[08:52] <homerh_linux> hiya i have unment dependenices but running (sudo apt[get -f install) does not solve problem
[08:52] <IcemanV9> i have a laptop with 512Mb ... i have xchat, google earth running the tour AND playing HD trailer (it plays very jerky) at the same time; i thought linux is superb at multitasking?!?
[08:52] <Redman276> not reall ( kinda  undecided )
[08:52] <Redman276> y^
[08:52] <ubuntu> but when i do "grub-install /dev/hda" as the guide says, I get "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[08:52] <ubuntu> "
[08:53] <Redman276> i can  do consol or  gui it  dont matter , its  just arouter service  with NAT and MASq
[08:53] <Orunitia> why is it I can't set mount points on the new installer?... or am I missing something obvious
[08:53] <theapoc> polpak, in xp setup it shows all of them as unknown (my xp partition got corrupted), in ubuntu it shows the windows one as 74.3 and the other as 76 (but ubuntu is reporting 70gig)
[08:53] <theapoc> er
[08:53] <theapoc> I said that wrong
[08:53] <Redman276> GUI might slow it down a touch its only a  900 mhz with 128 mb ram
[08:53] <ubuntu> root@shadow:~# mount /dev/hda /mnt/linux
[08:53] <ubuntu> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:53] <Seveas> homerh_linux, backup your samba config and do this: dpkg -P samba smbclient samba-common ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop samba smbclient samba-common
[08:53] <theapoc> in ubuntu it shows windows = 73, ubuntu = 70...
[08:54] <polpak> Redman276, gui is fine.. I run gnome w/ a 750mhz (though I have a gig of ram)
[08:54] <eyequeue> stefg, (i always want to call you stegfs, sorry) your idea of an exceiting evening may differ from some of us, ubugto?? :-P
[08:54] <usul> So anyone have a clue as to how to fix this boot problem with my ubuntu on powerpc? I'd hate to have to keep switching os whether im connected or not (switching hard drives)... Is there no way to launch ubuntu without connecting to the web? or a way to lauch nautilus some other way?
[08:54] <homerh_linux> thanks seveas :sorry didnt know not to paste
[08:54] <not_ubuntu> how do i mount /dev/hda onto /mnt/linux?
[08:54] <Redman276> well its  more  so gonna be put in place  four a  router  and  PFWD  job specific
[08:54] <Seveas> not_ubuntu, mount /dev/hda /mnt/linux
[08:54] <stefg> this is geek entertainment... that might appear starnge to outsiders :-)
[08:55] <polpak> theapoc, well are you going to format the windows partition?
[08:55] <not_ubuntu> seveas: it says i must specify the filesystem type
[08:55] <Seveas> not_ubuntu, sudo fdisk -l
[08:55] <eyequeue> not_ubuntu, you may want hda1 or hda5 or something rather than hda
[08:55] <Seveas> and output on the pastebin
[08:55] <theapoc> polpak, yes but I want to make sure I format the right one :)
[08:55] <crazy_penguin> good evening to all!
[08:55] <Redman276> !route
[08:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about route - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:56] <Redman276> :-?
[08:56] <polpak> theapoc, boot into ubuntu, and use gparted to correct the partition table (so the windows one is ntfs) and format the windows partition as an ntfs drive. then windows should have no trouble identifying it
[08:56] <Redman276> !fourms
[08:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about fourms - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:56] <Orunitia> !dsfjfkdjsf
[08:56] <polpak> !fishing > Redman276
[08:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about dsfjfkdjsf - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:56] <theapoc> polpak, ill give that a try, thank you
[08:56] <not_ubuntu> seveas: i know that it is ext3, so what do i do with that?
[08:56] <NKayhan> I need help installing synaptic
[08:57] <stefg> Redman276: May i suggest you compose a human readable sentence,  telling what you want to achieve and maybe google for a proper Howto?
[08:57] <joeyk232> does anyone know how i can install the package for using make files?
[08:57] <Seveas> not_ubuntu, eyequeue said it: you most likely need to use /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/hda
[08:57] <NKayhan> I need help installing synapticI uninstalled it accedently
[08:57] <not_ubuntu> i tried, and it gives the same message
[08:57] <Seveas> !compiling > joeyk232
[08:57] <Seveas> not_ubuntu, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/linux
[08:57] <matt0440> what is the command to install java???
[08:57] <joeyk232> i dont understand >seveas
[08:58] <ThunderStruck> !java > matt0440
[08:58] <__mikem> Ok, I don't know who booted me
[08:58] <polpak> joeyk232, read the message ubotu sent you
[08:58] <eyequeue> !java > matt0440
[08:58] <Seveas> joeyk232, ubotu sent you a message
[08:58] <eyequeue> oops
[08:58] <__mikem> Seveas, mind telling me what I did wrong
[08:58] <joeyk232> ohhh, ok, thanks
[08:58] <NKayhan> HELP
[08:58] <ThunderStruck> NKayhan: cant
[08:58] <[Ex0r] > grr, why does this shit have to be so darn difficult to set up ?
[08:58] <polpak> !language
[08:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:58] <[Ex0r] > i've been trying to configure postfix for over 2 hours.
[08:58] <ThunderStruck> NKayhan: might help if we knew what the problem was
[08:59] <stefg> !language
[08:59] <not_ubuntu>        missing codepage or other error
[08:59] <not_ubuntu>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:59] <not_ubuntu>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:59] <Seveas> __mikem, -offtopic is a family friendly channel 'moron', like any insult, gets you kicked
[08:59] <not_ubuntu> whoops
[08:59] <not_ubuntu> sorry!!
[08:59] <homerh_linux>  seveas thats didnt work when i run apt=get -f install i get  old pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[08:59] <__mikem> Seveas, ok, fair enough, sorry :(
[08:59] <matt0440> that doesnt work what is the sudo command???
[08:59] <NKayhan> Thunderstruck: Synaptic isn't on my system and I need it
[08:59] <ThunderStruck> matt0440: read teh link ubotu sent you
[08:59] <polpak> [Ex0r] , not familiar w/ postfix sorry
[08:59] <ThunderStruck> NKayhan: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <Seveas> homerh_linux, paste the complete session on the pastebin please (the commands you used and their output). pastebin is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:00] <not_ubuntu> seveas: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[09:00] <ThunderStruck> NKayhan: if you have kubuntu synaptic wont install kubuntu uses adept instead
[09:00] <Bicchi> After i distro-upgrade i noticed that my usage space whent up by 500 mb. I allready ran the commands apt-get clean, apt-get autoclean. What could it be holding 500 mb more worth of HD space?
[09:00] <homerh_linux> ok seveas will do
[09:00] <IcemanV9> not_ubuntu: please paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l', it would help us a lot
[09:01] <ThunderStruck> in pastebin?
[09:01] <NKayhan> Thunderstruck:I have Xubuntu
[09:01] <Dr_Sato> How do I open ports on Ubuntu? I need port 21 to be opened. I Installed proFTPd, i configured it but that did not do the trick?
[09:01] <eyequeue> Bicchi, later versions of packages, particularly gui apps, are often more bloated
[09:01] <ThunderStruck> NKayhan: im not sure if xubuntu-desktop grabs it or not try sudo apt-get isntall synaptic
[09:01] <ThunderStruck> install*
[09:01] <IcemanV9> !paste > not_ubuntu
[09:01] <Bicchi> eyequeue: yeah but by that much. that's insane.
[09:02] <homerh_linux> seveas all done
[09:02] <eyequeue> Bicchi, 500 mb didn't surprise me actually
[09:02] <polpak> Dr_Sato, all ports are "open" by default (i.e. there is not default firewall) . Either you installed a firewall, or the daemon isn't running, or you're not connecting to the right ip
[09:02] <matt0440> how do i install the java firefox plugin?
[09:02] <stefg> Bicchi: what does du /var/cache/apt/archives tell you?
[09:02] <Bicchi> eyequeue: so you had the same issue going from breezy to dapper?
[09:02] <ThunderStruck> !java
[09:02] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:02] <ThunderStruck> matt0440:
[09:02] <ThunderStruck> ^^^ read that matt0440
[09:03] <doughboy> I heard there was a new book for ubuntu. Does anyone recall the name of that book?
[09:03] <Seveas> homerh_linux, sudo rm /etc/rc*.d/*samba
[09:03] <Paty> hola
[09:03] <eyequeue> Bicchi, i didn't notice. as i did it gradually rather than in a single command
[09:03] <oblib> anyone here use a digital TV tuner? I can't seem to download the firmware I need
[09:03] <Bicchi> stefg: not much space occupied there
[09:03] <Seveas> homerh_linux, and then retry the commands I gave earlier
[09:03] <Dr_Sato> polpak: hmmmm, when I port scan my ubuntu based box... it only shows 80 (apache2) and 22 my sshd Daemon
[09:03] <Dr_Sato> polpak: linux is closed out of the box as frar as I remember
[09:03] <Dr_Sato> frar = far
[09:03] <ThunderStruck> doughboy: the official ubuntu guide and its not been released yet and please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic thank you
[09:04] <NKayhan> Thunderstruck: Sudo apt-get install synaptic worked.  Tahnx
[09:04] <eyequeue> Bicchi, you can purge your old kernel packages etc, and see if du /tmp is taking up much (a reboot could release some temp files)
[09:04] <ThunderStruck> NKayhan: yw
[09:04] <polpak> Dr_Sato, if something is listening to a port, and there is no firewall, the port is open
[09:04] <polpak> Dr_Sato, ubuntu doesn't have a firewall by default, so as long as the program is running it should work
[09:04] <Dr_Sato> polpak: okay... i gueass I was wrong... I'll look into my ftp configuration than
[09:04] <polpak> Dr_Sato, netstat -an | grep tcp | grep LIST
[09:04] <Dr_Sato> thnx
[09:04] <polpak> Dr_Sato, should list the open tcp ports
[09:05] <Dr_Sato> chceck
[09:05] <eyequeue> Bicchi, /var sometimes holds info from old package versions until a reboot, i'm grasping at straws here to think of freeing some space for you
[09:05] <[Ex0r] > grr
[09:05] <Bicchi> eyequeue: i didn't keep the old kernel; I just have one. I have rebooted several times so /tmp is empty. I think with edgy i am just going to do a fresh install instead.
[09:05] <[Ex0r] > screw this crap
[09:05] <adam__> when i install packages manually, where should i install them?, in my home dir or /usr/bin/ or maybe somewhere else?
[09:05] <asdasd2> Anyone use LDAP here
[09:05] <Redman276> Seveas  what  would ubuntu need  software or  pkg  wise for   router/NAT operation ?
[09:05] <polpak> !anyone > asdasd2
[09:05] <eyequeue> adam__, /usr/local/bin and such
[09:06] <ThunderStruck> [Ex0r] : please watch your language and i dont just mean from last post
[09:06] <IcemanV9> [Ex0r] : state the problem; maybe someone can help ya
[09:06] <eyequeue> adam__, /usr/bin is the "property" of the package manager and shouldn't be messed with
[09:06] <Seveas> Redman276, nothing but what's installed by default
[09:06] <qwertybob> im having nvidia problem..kernel module version 7174 bout x module 8762
[09:06] <adam__> thanks for the info eyequeue i was not sure
[09:06] <asdasd2> Could someone assist me, in an EXTREMELY basic setup of LDAP, all I need is E-mail contact sharing
[09:06] <Seveas> Redman276, maybe a dhcp server if you want one
[09:07] <Redman276> is there a specific  section  in the  fourms or wikki tht  gives a  description ?
[09:07] <eyequeue> adam__, /usr/local/bin/ for things that everyone can use, ~/bin/ (which you wouldneed to add to $PATH) for just-you apps
[09:07] <homerh_linux> seveas thanks mate worked like a treat :)
[09:07] <Polly_Morf> Excuse me, but should I use utf-8 or something else here?
[09:08] <ThunderStruck> uft-8 = safe bet but whatever you like
[09:08] <Polly_Morf> Kay
[09:08] <eyequeue> Polly_Morf, this channel is an english-only channel, so any of the character sets consistent with that should be safe here
[09:09] <mattnash> haakonn: Did you get it working?
[09:09] <Polly_Morf> ThunderStruck: In all the swedish channles i usually hang in are stupid. They use iso8859-1.
[09:09] <eyequeue> Polly_Morf, you're the first person i've seen that's been considerate enough to ask first though, congratulations :-)
[09:10] <adam__> eyequeue i have moved the folder in question "RealPlayer" to /usr/local/bin/ how do i alter the path so i can just launch RealPlayer from anywhere?
[09:10] <eigenlambda> utf-8 is the standard everywhere for everything
[09:10] <Polly_Morf> eyequeue: Thank you. In swedish channels thery a bunch of characterset-nazis.
[09:10] <eigenlambda> nobody uses iso8859-1 any more
[09:10] <eigenlambda> and if they do, they should be ignored
[09:10] <Polly_Morf> eigenlambda: I couldt agree more
[09:11] <Polly_Morf> oops
[09:11] <ThunderStruck> ok guys/ladies please move the char-sets to #ubuntu-offtopic now thank you
[09:11] <Polly_Morf> Oh. Theres one of those
[09:11] <eyequeue> adam__, i'd make a symlink from /usr/local/bin to the app itself, such as "sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/RealPlayer /some/place/you/installed/it/RealPlayer.app"
[09:11] <Polly_Morf> sorry
[09:11] <eigenlambda> 
[09:12] <qwertybob> anyone got a clue? why nvidia error mismatch 7174 module x module 8762
[09:12] <adam__> thanks eyequeue i will look into that
[09:12] <Seveas> qwertybob, you probably messed with manually installing nvidia drivers
[09:12] <eyequeue> adam__, as long as the app itself has a "pointer" ("symlink") from /usr/local/bin/ which is already in the default $PATH, then eeryone should be able to invoke it
[09:13] <kelbizzle> is anyone using xchat with Dapper?
[09:13] <MalMen> hello
[09:14] <qwertybob> Seveas: its a fresh install, did upgrade
[09:14] <Banach> guys, im having trouble with my keys layout, it seems every time I reboot i have to rerun 'loadkeys uk' (using sudo) is there a place I can put it to automate this? (does /etc/profile deal with this sort of thing?)
[09:14] <polpak> kelbizzle, I use xchat-gnome
[09:14] <SonicChao> !anyone > kelbizzle
[09:14] <ThunderStruck> !anyone
[09:14] <eyequeue> kelbizzle, yes, many
[09:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:14] <kelbizzle> because it uninstalled after I updated.
[09:14] <kelbizzle> I didnt know if it was for a reason.
[09:14] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: re-install it
[09:14] <kelbizzle>  How do I get it back?
[09:14] <MalMen> i am with problems on init of system, because X, not have anything to reconfigure X again 100% automatic ?
[09:14] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: its a known issue
[09:14] <SonicChao> kelbizzle,  sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:14] <OrgulloKmoore> my computer is playing a song and and I don't even have xmms open...
[09:14] <eyequeue> kelbizzle, sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:14] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:14] <OrgulloKmoore> I don't know what program is playing it...
[09:14] <kelbizzle> ahhh I did that I must of mistyped
[09:14] <OrgulloKmoore> any clues?
[09:15] <joeyk232> How can i get the root user? i tryed SU, but i dont think i set any password for root
[09:15] <SonicChao> Not 'xchat-gnome', it's completely featureless, as to go with Gnome policies
[09:15] <OrgulloKmoore> joeyk232> you must use "sudo"
[09:15] <kelbizzle> Thanks all
[09:15] <eyequeue> joeyk232, sudo, instead ... watch the bot
[09:15] <ThunderStruck> joeyk232: sudo not su
[09:15] <Banach> OrgulloKmoore, type'ps -ux' into a term and see if you and identify the program then do a 'kill -9 <ID>'
[09:15] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > joeyk232
[09:15] <SonicChao> joeljkp, you're user password is you're root pw
[09:15] <Banach> joeyk232, do a 'sudo passwd'
[09:15] <joeyk232> thank you everyone
[09:16] <Banach> guys, im having trouble with my keys layout, it seems every time I reboot i have to rerun 'loadkeys uk' (using sudo) is there a place I can put it to automate this? (does /etc/profile deal with this sort of thing?)
[09:16] <XGas> Errrr...... Help?
[09:16] <XGas> heh
[09:16] <OrgulloKmoore> my computer is possessed...
[09:16] <Banach> i've rerun the gnome setup keys in the preferences submenu of the main menu but it keeps resetting
[09:16] <XGas> I'm running Ubuntu on VMWare Workstation
[09:16] <eyequeue> btw, "sudo passwd" is NOT recommended!
[09:17] <Banach> OrgulloKmoore, did ps -ux not work?
[09:17] <XGas> And I'm trying to install the VMware package
[09:17] <OrgulloKmoore> Banach> I see all the processes, but know multimedia players are there...
[09:17] <Banach> try: ps -aux
[09:17] <XGas> Then Where can I get the C complier?
[09:17] <Banach> see if there is one there (means its been run as a user not yourself if its there and not in -ux)
[09:17] <SonicChao> XGas, sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[09:18] <XGas> yep
[09:18] <XGas> tried
[09:18] <oblib> can anyone help me install drivers for a Digital TV card I just got? The online guide I found is not working
[09:18] <eyequeue> XGas, "sudo apt-get install build-essential" will install gcc, as well as many other things
[09:18] <DaveyJ> what about gcc?
[09:18] <XGas> done it
[09:18] <XGas> it wont work
[09:18] <Jeruvy> XGas: what was the error
[09:18] <SonicChao> XGas, Sorry, then, cant help you...X_x
[09:18] <XGas> the C complier is not there
[09:18] <Banach> XGas, have you tried 'sudo apt-cache search gcc' ?
[09:18] <XGas> not yet
[09:19] <XGas> wait I go try
[09:19] <XGas> heh
[09:19] <eyequeue> XGas, what platform are you on?
[09:19] <Banach> its gonna be a big list but im sure itl be on there...
[09:19] <jrib> anyone know how I can reduce the size of a pdf?  I comverted it from a 6mb jpg and I could increase the comrpession of the jpg and convert again, but I'm wondering if there is a way to directly modify the pdf
[09:19] <XGas> Windows XP with VMWare, ROFLMAO
[09:19] <Banach> XGas it says on mine: 'sudo apt-get install gcc'
[09:19] <wiking> on Applications>Sound&Video>Volume Control I can find & select my sound card, but when i want play may music CD I can't hear it...
[09:19] <XGas> Thats one way of doing it......
[09:19] <Spec> I was ssh'd into a machine, and ran a command, then i ctrl+z'd and then bg'd two processes, then quit the shell by accident ... it seems the processes are still running though, how can I fg them?
[09:19] <krism> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:20] <eyequeue> Banach, is he on i386?
[09:20] <krism> @ xgas
[09:20] <XGas> yeah I386
[09:20] <ThunderStruck> Banach: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:20] <Banach> ThunderStruck, I don't need it, but he says he tried that
[09:20] <eyequeue> XGas, "sudo apt-get install build-essential" will install gcc, as well as many other things, as many have told you to do, in that case
[09:20] <Banach> do you still need to do and apt-get fakeroot???
[09:21] <OrgulloKmoore> ah, it was firefox playing the noise!!
[09:21] <Banach> guys, im having trouble with my keys layout, it seems every time I reboot i have to rerun 'loadkeys uk' (using sudo) is there a place I can put it to automate this? (does /etc/profile deal with this sort of thing?)
[09:21] <ThunderStruck> Banach: apt-get fakeroot isnt a command
[09:21] <OrgulloKmoore> using the mplayer plugin
[09:21] <OrgulloKmoore> guh
[09:21] <Banach> ThunderStruck, i mean the oldschool apt-get install fakeroot
[09:21] <ThunderStruck> ah
[09:21] <Banach> as per the old wiki
[09:21] <ThunderStruck> i use it for somethings still
[09:21] <ThunderStruck> depends on what im doing and how i feel atm
[09:21] <Banach> maybe he needs that depending on which version he's on...
[09:22] <oblib> can anyone help me install drivers for a Digital TV card I just got? The online guide I found is not working
[09:22] <XGas> ok where is the GCC or C Complier installed?
[09:22] <ThunderStruck> oblib: what card
[09:22] <oblib> Avermedia A180
[09:22] <Banach> XGas, try: 'which gcc'
[09:22] <eyequeue> XGas, /usr/bin
[09:22] <ThunderStruck> XGas: what do you mean
[09:22] <lezombi> i have a question
[09:22] <XGas> K thanks
[09:22] <ThunderStruck> oblib: oh i never heard of that one
[09:22] <Banach> lezombi, just ask it
[09:22] <ThunderStruck> lezombi: ask
[09:22] <XGas> I done some stuff in there, looks like I have to start clean again.
[09:22] <oblib> ThunderStruck, there is a script, get_dvb_firmware, but the script doesn't seem to support the one I want
[09:23] <XGas> format......
[09:23] <oblib> nxt2002 instead of nxt2004
[09:23] <lezombi> ok.. well i was wondering. if i had ubuntu installed and i wanted to format the hd and then install windows 98.. how would i got about doing that.. would i use the win98 bootdisk?
[09:23] <eyequeue> XGas, /usr/bin is NOT "property of the user, only /usr/local/bin, /usr/bin is "owned" by the package manager
[09:23] <ThunderStruck> oblib: sorry i didnt write the script and i dont know where you would get drivers for it
[09:23] <Banach> eyequeue, but he can still mess with it :P
[09:23] <sri_> can any one tell about shell scripting e book links??
[09:23] <[Ex0r] > hmm, something is wrong here
[09:24] <eyequeue> Banach, if he likes to break his system, sure
[09:24] <ThunderStruck> sri_: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:24] <Banach> eyequeue, looks like he has...
[09:24] <wiking> on Applications>Sound&Video>Volume Control I can find & select my sound card, but when i want play may music CD I can't hear it...
[09:24] <sri_> ThunderStruck, it is irc?
[09:24] <XGas> oh noes, now really have to restart again.
[09:24] <eyequeue> Banach, i do wonder where so many get the idea they can mess in /usr/bin though, he's not the only one
[09:24] <Banach> using the new Xgl with compiz it seems to run EXTREMELY slowly, and my system is less than shoddy, how can i tell if the hardware accel is working (seeing as direct rendering isnt there)
[09:25] <lezombi> can somone answer my question please
[09:25] <XGas> I just started using Linux
[09:25] <XGas> ......
[09:25] <sri_> ThunderStruck, then how can i conect?
[09:25] <ThunderStruck> sri_: open google and search for abs guide
[09:25] <Banach> eyequeue, i know he's not, i don't mess with it, just add to it ;)
[09:25] <ThunderStruck> sri_: or install it using synaptic
[09:25] <wiking> hello! please help me!
[09:25] <Dial_tone> wiking, running gnome-mixer or similiar and see if you can adjust cd volume. I had a similiar issue one
[09:25] <Seveas> lezombi, this is not a windows help channel
[09:25] <kakado> lezombi, yes
[09:25] <Seveas> !windows
[09:25] <XGas> I tried looking in the guides but all messy instuctions
[09:25] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:25] <karim> hi
[09:25] <Banach> XGas, thats not a problem, all you need to know really is that you shouldnt mess with any folders outside of your users home
[09:26] <XGas> shouldn't have messed with the usr/bin folder
[09:26] <lezombi> seveas: i dont need help with windows. i was just asking about a hypothetical situation
[09:26] <Seveas> lezombi, this is not a hypothetical windows support channel...
[09:26] <XGas> so its in usr/bin/local I have to place stuff right?
[09:26] <eigenlambda> /usr/local
[09:26] <XGas> oh
[09:26] <WarOfAttrition> windows 98? *BARF*
[09:26] <eigenlambda> lol @ windows
[09:26] <Banach> lezombi, win98 lives on fat32 right? you could 'hypotheitcally' format it with a gentoo live cd (the ultimate recovery aide!)
[09:27] <eigenlambda> there is no reason to use windows >2k nowadays
[09:27] <Seveas> Banach, ...
[09:27] <ompaul> Banach, that is also offtopic for here
[09:27] <eigenlambda> there was never any reason to use windows >2k either
[09:27] <eyequeue> XGas, ls /usr/local/, you'll find /usr/local/bin/ under there, but all the directories there are fair game for you
[09:27] <wiking> Dial_tone, how to run gnome-mixer?
[09:27] <ThunderStruck> eigenlambda: stay on topic
[09:27] <WarOfAttrition> eigenlambda, just for a lame reason, games
[09:27] <Banach> XGas, well yes and no, its better if you have a scripts folder in your home drive and add something like 'export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/my/scripts/folder'
[09:27] <lz1gjd> hi, could this issue be resolved ? /dev/video: No space left on device when accessing my usb video camera
[09:28] <eigenlambda> wine works for everything that works in pre-2k, though
[09:28] <eyequeue> XGas, are you a coder?  you'll find that useful if so, incidental if not
[09:28] <XGas> ok, to recap, I install it in usr/local/bin?
[09:28] <Banach> sorry for that guys, but i just want to help. (and yes the gentoo cd is a good recovery aide BUT ubuntu is by far and away the better os)
[09:28] <XGas> no, I just need to test something......
[09:28] <Seveas> Banach, there is an ubuntu live cd too 
[09:28] <eyequeue> XGas, yes /usr/local/bin/whatever
[09:29] <XGas> k.
[09:29] <Banach> Seveas, true, but it takes longer to boot ;)
[09:29] <Seveas> Banach, for dapper that already improved a lot and for edgy it'll even be better
[09:30] <wiking> Dial_tone, how to run gnome-mixer?
[09:30] <Banach> I thought dapper was gonna be like a rolling distro for the next 5 years or something?! the whole lts thing or whatever?
[09:30] <kelbizzle> Wehre the GAIM_SRC_DIR/plugins foler?
[09:30] <Flannel> Banach: no, it's just supported for longer.  Ubuntu has no rolling distros
[09:30] <Seveas> Banach, lts does not mean rolling distro...
[09:30] <Banach> ah well
[09:30] <kbrooks> Banach: you misunderstand lts
[09:30] <Dial_tone> you could start by typing gnome-alsamixer
[09:30] <skavenge> Regardless of video format or what player im playing it in, my videos wash out white sporadically and randomly during an X session .. a restart of X fixes this, anyone have any ideas to why or how i can fix this? its quite annoying ..
[09:30] <kbrooks> long term support
[09:30] <wiking> How to run gnome-mixer?
[09:31] <garryF> What is a rolling distro? Firestone or Goodyear linux?
[09:31] <Banach> all it means is updating the sources.list, its hardly brain surgery! =p
[09:31] <Banach> garryF, gentoo is a prime example
[09:32] <Banach> there are no 'versions' as such, you just install one version and update the software as you go
[09:32] <Banach> anyway, thats off subject
[09:33] <Banach> i still need help with my keymaps: it seems that every time i reboot I lose my keymap and have to do a 'sudo loadkeys uk' . I've tried the gnome configurator for keyboard but even the uk one looks a bit funny (keys in the wrong place) if i put 'loadkeys uk' in /etc/profile will it work every time then (until /etc/profile is updated)
[09:34] <sapote> hi!!   i cant connect with a win2k smb and active directory as client, somebody idea about proceed?
[09:35] <Seveas> !samba > sapote
[09:35] <unstablesob> Banach: I believe that 'dpkg-reconfigure console-data' will let you set the default keymap
[09:35] <garryF> I've seen some gnome logout screens with the "Save settings" box unchecked. Might see that it is checked, maybe its not saving the settings.
[09:35] <sri_> ThunderStruck, u said that u ask the shell pro in ubuntu-offtopic;then i right click on it &join in it...How can i add it as a server??if i simply adding is not working
[09:36] <blanky> I'm so frickin pissed, I've done everything in the !ATI wiki for drivers, tried the xorg driver, tried the ati propriatery drivers, and it keeps saying no matter waht I do, in the console once I do 'fglrxinfo', taht I'm using mesa
[09:36] <Banach> unstablesob, it seems that my qwerty/uk isnt in the list... :S
[09:36] <eyequeue> sri_, it's on the same server, just type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" in your irc client
[09:36] <blanky> It used to be very simple to install ati drivers
[09:37] <jrib> what can I use to create multiple page pdf's from multiple jpeg's?  oo writer is a memory hog...
[09:37] <Banach> so my question still stands about /etc/profile
[09:37] <blanky> anyone?
[09:37] <blanky> My xorg.conf already says I'm using fglrx
[09:37] <alexbligh> jrib, pdftk
[09:37] <sri_> eyequeue, thank u
[09:38] <Banach> why is qwerty/uk not an option for my keyboard lists?
[09:38] <sri_> eyequeue, u know where the python discussion takes place?
[09:38] <ThunderStruck> jrib: abiword maybe (just a guess)
[09:38] <garryF> I thought Mesa was just a graphics library. I get the same message with Nvidia but everythign seems tow ork ok.
[09:38] <unstablesob> Banach: would British be the same thing?
[09:38] <kelbizzle> whats the path for gaim?
[09:38] <jrib> alexbligh, ThunderStruck: thanks
[09:38] <ThunderStruck> jrib: yw
[09:38] <blanky> garryF, really? in fglrxinfo it usually would say vendor string ATI etc. etc.
[09:38] <blanky> I know mesa is the opensource opengl supposedly
[09:38] <Seveas> blanky: dpkg -l '*fglrx*' && cat /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-comon && uname -a
[09:38] <Seveas> blanky, put the output of that on the pastebin
[09:39] <eyequeue> sri_, probably #python, /join #python
[09:39] <sanityx> Hey, anybody know where grub.conf is located in Ubuntu, or what the equivalent of it is? I don't see it in /boot/grub/
[09:39] <Banach> unstablesob, stupid me.. :S its just that we are no long 'great britain' :P
[09:39] <blanky> Seveas, thanks! :) Will do
[09:39] <garryF> blanky I use glxinfo myself.
[09:39] <sri_> eyequeue, thank u
[09:40] <eyequeue> sri_, you're welcome
[09:40] <XGas> ROFL, Ubuntu is so hard to use sometimes, but its better than RedHat, still like Gentoo thou
[09:40] <garryF> /boot/grub.menu.lst
[09:40] <Flannel> sanityx: he means /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:41] <XGas> I'm reinstalling it now, so its: sudo apt-get install blah blah blah, right?
[09:41] <blanky> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18029 :)
[09:41] <garryF> yeah hehe
[09:41] <Banach> XGas, i thought you were reformatting?!
[09:41] <Seveas> blanky, mistake from me there
[09:41] <XGas> yeah, I am
[09:42] <Seveas> blanky: cat /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common && uname -a
[09:42] <blanky> Seveas, no problem, will paste the new one
[09:42] <blanky> yes I noticed :P
[09:42] <Seveas> and retry
[09:42] <eyequeue> XGas, sudo apt-get --reinstall install foo bar, for packages foo and bar, if that's what you want
[09:42] <blanky> oh okay, I just did the restricted modules thing
[09:42] <XGas> its reinstalling it now.
[09:42] <blanky> but uname -a as well? okay
[09:42] <Banach> where in glxinfo does it tell me if my hardware acceleration is working? (im not used to this Xgl lark yet)
[09:42] <blanky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18030
[09:42] <XGas> No, I had to reformat and start over cause its messed up somehow.
[09:42] <eyequeue> XGas, but iif you actually hosed /usr/bin/ i would instead suggest a reinstall of ubuntu from scratch
[09:42] <blanky> er, Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18030
[09:43] <Banach> eyequeue, looks like he is
[09:43] <XGas> its running......
[09:43] <blanky> Seveas, that only shows the restricted modules and uname -a, the other one (first one) has the dpkg -l fglrx command, should I do that too again?
[09:43] <garryF> I tried Gentoo, but due to bad eyes, it is virtually impossible for me to build a gentoo system because I'll skip a line of instructions and never notice and a year ago, the gentoo guide navigator wasn't exactly user friendly to me at least. So easy to get lost on the wrong branch and not know it.
[09:43] <Seveas> blanky, no
[09:43] <wiking> How to run gnome-mixer?
[09:43] <blanky> Ah okay Seveas
[09:44] <skavenge> nobody in here cares about gentoo im guessing
[09:44] <Banach> garryF, i tried it and got it to work, but the footprint is really just too big
[09:44] <kbrooks> garryF: can I pm u
[09:44] <Seveas> blanky, did you manually install fglrx or from a repo?
[09:44] <XGas> aha 98% almost done......
[09:44] <blanky> Seveas, I did it first from the repos (not yours, but the xorg-fglrx-driver or whatever), then from the ati site, because neither worked
[09:44] <XGas> 99%
[09:44] <kbrooks> XGas: ubuntu?
[09:44] <Banach> XGas, thats way too quick :p
[09:45] <XGas> Yaha done
[09:45] <XGas> restarting......
[09:45] <byen> hey guys, can anyone help me with network-manager.. mine cannot see my wireless , even though the card works out of the box
[09:45] <XGas> I just got extra large ram
[09:45] <Seveas> blanky, odd, it seems to be complete... could you try installing ubuntu-fglrx-386 from my repo and reboot
[09:45] <XGas> so its fast
[09:45] <blanky> Seveas, sure
[09:46] <byen> I have tried and cannot seem to get it to work.. I would really appretiate it if someone can direct me here
[09:46] <trappist> anyone know what the second column means in ls -l ?
[09:46] <blanky> Seveas, it might be working, because xorg.conf shows tha tI'm using fglrx and what not, but like I said, the 'problem', if it even is a problem, is that fglrxinfo keeps saying im using mesa
[09:46] <blanky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18032
[09:46] <NomaD|-fX> is it possible to use nvidia-settings with Xgl ? almost all settings are disabled now because of Xgl
[09:46] <jrib> trappist: links I believe (easy to test)
[09:47] <XGas> BAAAH, Ubuntu boots slower than Windows XP......
[09:47] <trappist> jrib: it's not that.  I think by trial and error I just figured out that it's a count of subdirectories (including . and ..)
[09:47] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: you there?
[09:47] <jrib> trappist: yeah doesn't seem to be links, something was...
[09:47] <Banach> what the hell is wrong with my keymap?! i cant find one that actually looks like my british standard keyboard! even the uk/british one has an american setout. where have i gone wrong???
[09:47] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: no
[09:47] <XGas> whats the command to make a dir?
[09:48] <Banach> mkdir
[09:48] <alexbligh> trappist, the second column in ls -l is the use count on the inode of the file
[09:48] <skavenge> uh mkdir
[09:48] <XGas> oh, I tried makedir, stupid me
[09:48] <eyequeue> XGas, mkdir
[09:48] <Mersault> how do I completely disable the screensaver in dapper? In breezy I could deactivate xscreensaver using the preferences pane, but now all I can do is tell it to wait two hours, but I can't disable it completely
[09:48] <Banach> XGas, as u said, you are new to linux, its not stupid
[09:48] <alexbligh> so if you have one file with 2 links to it, it will say 2. Directories are higher as their contents link to it.
[09:48] <Ackeubu_> Hey, I my memory (cache) are gradually being filled while I am using ubuntu. after a couple of hours the cache is on 75%, Is there a way to figure out how the cache is being filled like that? If any apps are leaking or what so?
[09:48] <kbrooks> XGas: why is booting time a big deal
[09:48] <jrib> trappist: no I may be right, make a hard link and check it out
[09:48] <trappist> alexbligh: it matches the number of subdirs with suspicious consistency
[09:48] <unstablesob> Ackeubu_: its a good thing
[09:48] <trappist> on directories
[09:49] <unstablesob> unused memory is wasted memory
[09:49] <serp> hi how do I cut a file of 4gb into 2 pieces of 2gb each?
[09:49] <Mersault> Ackeubu_: linux by default keeps everything it can in memory, so any future operation needing the same data will be faster.
[09:49] <alexbligh> trappist, yes, because each file within a directory contains (effectively) a link to that directory
[09:49] <jonesie> Help: My system (ubuntu dapper) updated grub before I rebooted last, on reboot the grub menu would not show. I am booted with knoppix live cd. How can I fix grub from this?
[09:49] <Banach> how do i tell if Xgl is using compiz through software or hardware rendering?
[09:49] <Banach> rather with than through*
[09:49] <Ackeubu_> Mersault, oooh o.O, and the cache is being emptied to let other apps use it when needed right. >)
[09:50] <Mersault> Ackeubu_: exactly.
[09:50] <Ackeubu_> Thanks
[09:50] <garryF> kbrooks glxinfo | grep dri if I recall.
[09:50] <Banach> how do i tell if Xgl is using compiz with software or hardware rendering? (or if thats not how it works then if Xgl is using hardware rendering)
[09:50] <trappist> alexbligh: ah, I get it.  thanks.
[09:50] <Flannel> !xgl
[09:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:50] <jonesie> anyone
[09:50] <jonesie> ?
[09:50] <kbrooks> garryF: mixed me up
[09:50] <Ackeubu_> unstablesub, you have a too long name. Is there a way to replay to youre name without writing it all? :P
[09:51] <Banach> Ackeubu_, you can use tab to autocomplete
[09:51] <Flannel> jonesie: grub menu is disabled then?  Or what?
[09:51] <skavenge> type the first few letters and hit tab
[09:51] <Ackeubu_> Banach: thansk
[09:51] <jonesie> Flannel: I dont know exactly, I guess so
[09:51] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: I'm having interesting problems with my new logitech speakers, but it's not new, but I have isolated the problem, it appears that my speakers are crackling under linux, though while in my windows partition, they work fine. I am assuming it's screwy dell drivers, but what else do you think it could be/what should I do?
[09:51] <byen> !network-manager
[09:51] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[09:51] <kakado> Mersault, I have a button called "Activate ..." ie. disables screen saver
[09:51] <kbrooks> Ackeubu_: use "tab" :-)
[09:51] <Flannel> jonesie: you can push esc to get to the grub menu?  your computer boots fine?
[09:51] <Ackeubu_> kbrooks: eyah works like a charm
[09:51] <Banach> pianoboy3333, it happened to me too, i had to turn the volume down in alsamixer
[09:52] <skavenge> Regardless of video format or what player im playing it in, my videos wash out white sporadically and randomly during an X session .. a restart of X fixes this, anyone have any ideas to why or how i can fix this? its quite annoying ..
[09:52] <Banach> pianoboy3333, then do an 'alsactl store' and it should sort them out
[09:52] <jonesie> Flannel: No, im booted with a knoppix live cd. The grub menu wont show
[09:52] <Ackeubu_> Anyone knows if Atlas.ti works for linux, and how to work it?
[09:52] <XGas> Wow, it said cant find package
[09:52] <Mersault> kakado: so not having 'activate' checked will disable then. I thought I'd tried that and determined that didn't work, but perhaps I'd made a mistake when I tried that. I'll try again, but is there another way?
[09:52] <roostishaw> is it possible to make my desktop look just like the one on the nUbuntu live cd?
[09:52] <pianoboy3333> Banach: is alsamixer a gui prog?
[09:52] <Banach> pianoboy3333, sorry no it command line
[09:53] <XGas> Wow, it said cant find package, help?
[09:53] <Flannel> jonesie: right, but because the menu won't show doesn't mean it wont boot normally.
[09:53] <XGas> build essential*
[09:53] <skavenge> build-essential is the name
[09:53] <Banach> pianoboy3333, im not sure what de/wm you use so il give command line progs for it :)
[09:53] <karim> I am trying to do something with sudo. I would like that when I am logged as root the command $ sudo -u karim echo ~   return /home/karim and not /root/
[09:53] <blanky> Guys somone please help me, fglrxinfo keeps telling me I have mesa but I already installed the ati drivers
[09:53] <jonesie> Flannel: ok, it probably boots, but the menu is gone.
[09:53] <Banach> XGas, what package?
[09:53] <XGas> build-essential
[09:53] <XGas> ......
[09:53] <jonesie> Flannel: it just says 'insert diskette press enter' or something to that effect
[09:54] <Banach> XGas, have you uncommented the repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list ? and then apt-get update (pretty sure it should be in there though!)
[09:54] <pianoboy3333> Banach: well, normally gnome/compiz but I updated the kernel, so I had to rebuild my ati drivers so metacity right this moment
[09:54] <eyequeue> karim, "logged in as root"???  in ubuntu??
[09:54] <Timothy> Hello, why is installing JAVA so difficult ? I managed to get java , somehow, now I want to run the SAP client and it's complaining about AWK, have no idea where to get that
[09:54] <Timothy> isn't java legal?
[09:54] <Flannel> jonesie: in the grub configuration, there's an option fo rit.  /boot/grub/menu.lst, comment out the "hiddenmenu" line
[09:54] <skavenge> !info build-essential
[09:54] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[09:54] <Ackeubu_> I have a broken package (samba) in my synaptic, I tried to uninstall it, but it doesnt work, How do I do samba to fix the broken package issue?
[09:54] <skavenge> its in main repos shouldnt matter
[09:54] <sproingie> i just discovered the deskbar applet in gnome.  why isn't this piece of 198 proof awesomeness turned on by default?
[09:54] <Banach> pianoboy3333, then command line is where we go, have you tried turning the pcm and master down in alsamixer?
[09:54] <pianoboy3333> Banach: no, how can I go about that?
[09:54] <karim> eyequeue: whatever, it's intented to be run by root through pammount
[09:54] <XGas> I forgot to say I run on Dapper Drake
[09:55] <eyequeue> karim, read the url the bot gives you
[09:55] <Banach> pianoboy3333, open a terminal (your choice of aterm, xterm, gnome-termin, terminal, ...)
[09:55] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > karim
[09:55] <pianoboy3333> Banach: right...
[09:55] <nooby_god> Does anyone know how I can make .debs or get .debs of the latest and greatest packages for ubunu?
[09:55] <Banach> pianoboy3333, then type 'alsamixer' and press enter
[09:55] <karim> eyequeue: I don't care of that
[09:55] <pianoboy3333> Banach: ok
[09:55] <roostishaw> is it possible to make my desktop look just like the one on the nUbuntu live cd?
[09:55] <skavenge> XGas: you either broke your repos because build-essential is in the main repo which is setup by default .. anyway its on the cd as well
[09:55] <joeljkp> gramming
[09:55] <Banach> and then use the up and down arrow keys to turn the volume on the channels up and down as required
[09:56] <nooby_god> Does anyone know how I can make .debs or get .debs of the latest and greatest packages for ubunu?
[09:56] <Banach> (i think 87 is normally quite a good level)
[09:56] <skavenge> roostishaw: how is it different? my base install looked exactly like the livecd
[09:56] <jonesie> Flannel: It's saying I cannot save it, read only file system.
[09:56] <karim> eyequeue: I know I can do  $ su karim -c echo ~ , this will give /home/karim, but I want to do it with sudo
[09:56] <nooby_god> Does anyone know how I can make .debs or get .debs of the latest and greatest packages for ubunu?
[09:56] <nooby_god> oops
[09:56] <XGas> can I just use the UI packager?
[09:56] <ThunderStruck> nooby_god: stop repeating please and give us a package you want thte latest and greatest we might find one
[09:56] <nooby_god> sorry for spamming
[09:56] <jonesie> Flannel: How can I mount it to read-write?
[09:56] <pianoboy3333> Banach: can't gnome-volume-control take care of this? (I don't really care the curses gui is pretty nice)
[09:56] <nooby_god> ThunderStruck Inkscape 0
[09:56] <Banach> nooby_god, if you want ultra bleeding edge build them, but ubuntu is about a week behind
[09:56] <adamant1988> does anyone know how I can force beagle to start indexing if it's stopped?
[09:56] <Ackeubu_> !broken
[09:56] <Flannel> jonesie: You should just boot normally and change it that way.
[09:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about broken - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:56] <roostishaw> skavenge, no... i just want my install of fluxbox to have the same theme and style as nubuntu
[09:56] <Flannel> jonesie: you can push escape when the grub menu is hidden to see it.
[09:57] <pianoboy3333> Banach: so put them all at 87?
[09:57] <roostishaw> skavenge, how do i do that?
[09:57] <ThunderStruck> inkscape.com
[09:57] <Banach> pianoboy3333, it probably can but i prefer using command line, its normally faster and easier
[09:57] <nooby_god> I need to get inkscape 0.44 for ubuntu
[09:57] <Banach> pianoboy3333, the pcm and master yes
[09:57] <joeyk232> I need to modify my /etc/X11/XF86Config file, but i dont have one, does anyone know why that might be?
[09:57] <jonesie> Flannel: I tried that, it just says "insert boot disk and press enter"
[09:57] <jonesie> Flannel: well ill try again, brb.
[09:57] <Banach> nooby_god, build it cvs style
[09:57] <skavenge> roostishaw: i dont know what nubuntu is .. if your talking about a standard ubuntu install, thats running gnome
[09:57] <pianoboy3333> Banach: I don't see anything for master...
[09:57] <nooby_god> ok Banach
[09:58] <nooby_god> Also does anyone know how to create a custom liveCD based on Ubuntu?
[09:58] <pianoboy3333> Banach: I have PCM, Front, Surround, Center, and LFE
[09:58] <Banach> pianoboy3333, i think its prtty safe to turn them all down to 87 anyway so you can do that. then pres escape to exit and do: 'sudo alsactl store'
[09:58] <SanketMedhi> nooby_god: try Slax
[09:59] <nooby_god> SanketMedhi I need it to be based on Ubuntu, it's gonna be a custom install CD
[09:59] <SanketMedhi> nooby_god: ok
[09:59] <pianoboy3333> Banach: then?
[09:59] <nooby_god> SanketMedhi I need the Dapper LiveCD plus a few extra drivers and such
[09:59] <Banach> nooby_god, then you mean you need it to be based on debian...
[09:59] <nooby_god> how to I remaster it?
[09:59] <Banach> pianoboy3333, you done the alsactl store? if so then just sit back and have a listen
[10:00] <pianoboy3333> ok... here we go...
[10:00] <kakado> joeyk232, sure its not xorg.conf ?
[10:00] <Banach> pianoboy3333, *fingers crossed*
[10:00] <Otacon22> how I have to do for activate wireless interface? i have configured ndiswrapper , and it respond me that hardware and driver is present, but wireless key don't give me signal of life
[10:00] <javiolo> how do I install imlib2 ? whats the package ?
[10:00] <madhu> hi this has been a real trick
[10:00] <Banach> Otacon22, have you done: ndiswrapper -m and then modprobed it?
[10:01] <yggwork> can somone help me figure out how to get a link to my home folder on desktop .. and a file system link too
[10:01] <pianoboy3333> Banach: great... I may turn it down, because I can turn that down more, and my speakers up more correct?
[10:01] <Otacon22> yes Banach
[10:01] <nooby_god> Otacon22 wireless is hard as hell in linux
[10:01] <SanketMedhi> nooby_god: dunno then
[10:01] <SanketMedhi> sorry
[10:01] <Usul> hey I tried rebooting my laptop without the eth0 conf'd but instead of solving the problem it sorta made it worst. I can't boot into my laptop anymore. I guess I could ssh into it. So is there a way to reconfigure the eth0 throught the terminal?
[10:01] <Banach> pianoboy3333, thats the way i normally work it :)
[10:01] <nooby_god> Otacon22 do you know of any native drivers for your device?
[10:01] <jrib> javiolo: if you are compiling you need libimlib2-dev (I was in #fluxbox :))
[10:01] <Banach> Otacon22, then what does your: iwconfig say?
[10:01] <XGas> WTF, I ask again, where can I get GCC and how?
[10:01] <javiolo> jrib ok libimlib2 and libimlib2-dev ?
[10:01] <Otacon22> nooby_god, I have the windows driver for the device
[10:02] <madhu> have anyone had success making java n realplay work in firefox running on linux
[10:02] <Otacon22> whait Banach
[10:02] <javiolo> jrib yo use ubuntu with fluxbox ?
[10:02] <Otacon22> hem
[10:02] <Otacon22> *wait
[10:02] <jrib> javiolo: yes two both of those
[10:02] <ThunderStruck> XGas: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[10:02] <madhu> if so go to site www.raaga.com (a popular indian music stream site...similar to launchcast)
[10:02] <pianoboy3333> Banach: it's still pretty crackly...
[10:02] <pianoboy3333> Banach: damn...
[10:02] <jrib> s/two/to
[10:02] <javiolo> jrib did you uninstalled gnome or you have both running ?
[10:02] <Banach> Otacon22, nooby_god wireless isnt that hard if you know what you're doing and if you need ndiswrapper you only stick to i386 (it seems they are a bit slow to offer 64 bit drivers)
[10:02] <XGas> dude, I just done a clean install with the so called Live cd Ubuntu 6.06
[10:02] <skavenge> build-essential is one the damn cd
[10:03] <skavenge> one/on
[10:03] <ThunderStruck> XGas: we have told you where to get it   go to packages.ubuntu.com than and get it if you dont want to try our ideas
[10:03] <Otacon22> Banach, all the interface except eth1 print "no wireless extension"
[10:03] <jrib> javiolo: I have both running, only extra thing I did to make it easy was make a .desktop file for fluxbox so I can select it from the options > sessions menu in gdm
[10:03] <skavenge> its in the main repo which should work by default on a fresh install anyway
[10:03] <Banach> pianoboy3333, then it may be the connections...
[10:03] <jrib> javiolo: ubuntu has fluxbox in its repositories, just not 1.0rc2
[10:03] <Otacon22> eth1 print IEEE 802.11b ESSID:off/any ....
[10:03] <Usul> anyone know how to configure the eth0 through terminal command?
[10:03] <dron> Otacon22: iwlist eth1 scan
[10:03] <sproingie> damn this deskbar is enough to switch me to gnome for good
[10:04] <coax> is it possible to fiddle with the package db? i need to install an old .deb that depends on "xlibs" witch no longer exists?
[10:04] <javiolo> jrib I had also fluxbox installed, I tried a clean server installation
[10:04] <nooby_god> Banach do you know of the limmitations one can have while using nidswrapper vs. native?
[10:04] <sproingie> now if we could get a gnome equivalent to konqeror
[10:04] <Banach> Usul, using ifconfig?
[10:04] <jrib> javiolo: oh
[10:04] <Otacon22> dron, I have do it
[10:04] <javiolo> jrib but didn?t figure how to configure gdm + xorg
[10:04] <dron> what it says?
[10:04] <SurfnKid> ubuntuntumbambam!
[10:04] <jonesie> Flannel: you there?
[10:04] <Banach> nooby_god, yes. BUT most people i know have the windows device before switching. and i've never had any trouble with ndiswrapper
[10:05] <Otacon22> but there isn't nothing, but i have the acces point! and while i do iwlist... the wireless device don't give me signal life
[10:05] <javiolo> jrib Im going to install fluxbox using source
[10:05] <pianoboy3333> Banach: well, I had this problem with the dell speakers that came with my computer.... but those were crappy.... then I had the creative for a couple days while waiting for these logitech, which I don't think crackled so it can be either the sound card or the connections, but in my opinion, it's the sound card, because the same exact cd in windows at the same level is perfectly fine
[10:05] <Otacon22> (when I am on windows always)
[10:05] <Banach> sprongie, just use konqueror... =p you can have the kde architecture load at the start of your session
[10:05] <skavenge> or xchat whatever
[10:05] <sproingie> Banach: yah, and drag and drop works pretty well between 'em now
[10:05] <Usul> Banach, i dont know. i mean to have it preconfigured. My real problem is that i cant boot into ubuntu when disconnected from the web, even using a liveCD6.06 and so i tried turning off eth0 and rebooting and now i cant even boot into it at all
[10:05] <jrib> javiolo: yeah I like the new features, I think it's worth it.  I'll pastebin the .desktop file for you so you can use it with gdm more easily
[10:06] <dron> Otacon22: what card is it?
[10:06] <sproingie> Banach: still, would be nice if nautilus could kick it up a notch.  image view alone in konq is bloody nice
[10:06] <Banach> pianoboy3333, what soundcard do you have? and what drivers do you have?
[10:06] <rebelfallen> I have been told NOT to install Ruby on Rails via apt. Does anyone know if it is advised to install any other way or what do you suggest?
[10:06] <lz1gjd> is there a deb package for gimmie ?
[10:07] <adamant1988> how can I reset beagles index so that it will re-index everything?
[10:07] <pianoboy3333> Banach: well, in windows, it displayed I had "SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC" I'm not sure what driver I had, some big long thing...
[10:07] <Banach> sproingie, amen to that! it would be really nice if nautilus could get a MAJOR upgrade, as well as a version of amarok that didnt require qt... that would simply be amazing but will never happen
[10:07] <Otacon22> dron, it is a u.s.Robotics usb wireless key.... when i was on ubuntu 5.10 it works perfecctly, but now on 6.06 nothing...
[10:07] <Usul> Is there a file i can edit that will turn my eth0 on by default?? I deselected it in the GUI but now i cant boot into GUI (nautils error because of bonobo)
[10:07] <eugman> I'm trying to run a program in wine and would like to record the outputs it makes to the terminal onto a text file. The > operator only records what it says after the program closes.
[10:07] <javiolo> jrib ok thanks, my main problem was how to make a nice desktop
[10:08] <teicah> what is the official(!)/best sofware manager for ubuntu?
[10:08] <Otacon22> perhaps I had do others commands
[10:08] <Cyorxamp> !ics
[10:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about ics - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:08] <Banach> pianoboy3333, i have never even heard of that one :P if it worked under windows then it should work here too. have you tried typing that into google with +linux?
[10:08] <dron> Otacon22: have you blacklisted bcm43xx?
[10:08] <Dial_tone> teicah synaptic
[10:08] <pianoboy3333> Banach: yea, that's what I'm doing now, I'm still looking, I'm going to look in ubuntu forums also, cause there could be some random howto there also
[10:08] <Otacon22> dron, what???
[10:08] <jrib> javiolo: I'm using the Meta theme which is pretty nice and slowly modifying it.  Just go to a theme site and find one you like then tinker a bit
[10:08] <dron> sorry
[10:09] <Otacon22> dron, explane me this
[10:09] <dron> my brain got stucked :)
[10:09] <javiolo> jrib I think I had before on gdm the menu to open fluxbox
[10:09] <Cyorxamp> When I use the LiveCD I automatically get net access, when installed to hdd, same networking settings... but no net access - I have tried dozens of things and dozens of reinstalls (tried xubuntu too)... the net comes from ICS on a winxp PC.
[10:09] <XGas> Can I just install it tru the Synatic Package Manager?
[10:09] <jrib> javiolo: just create /usr/share/xsessions/fluxbox.desktop and put this inside: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18033 then you should have fluxbox as an option in gdm (options > session)
[10:09] <sproingie> yikes, the keyboard shortcuts app is recognizing my win key as Super_L and worse, not a modifier key
[10:09] <javiolo> jrib just adding a line somewhere
[10:09] <skavenge> XGas: yes...
[10:09] <sproingie> is there any way to fix that in gnome or do i need to get into x keyboard maps?
[10:09] <XGas> k
[10:09] <dron> Otacon22: sorry cant help you with that, try surching google or ubuntu forums
[10:09] <jrib> javiolo: the ubuntu package should set it al up for you, but if you compile now you have to do it manually
[10:10] <cd_rom> since i use a live grub to manual boot ubuntu 5.10, can anyone paste me command to boot in recovery mode from grub, im going for a debug system crashed section
[10:10] <teicah> is the app that opens with the top-panel icon synaptic?  I know I can open it from System|Admn
[10:10] <javiolo> jrib ahh
[10:10] <cd_rom> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[10:10] <cd_rom> anyone?
[10:10] <Banach> pianoboy3333, im sorry i couldnt be any more help
[10:10] <pianoboy3333> Banach: no problem
[10:10] <teicah> icon w/tooltip 'xx updates'
[10:10] <javiolo> jrib what do you use to browse files ? nautilus ?
[10:11] <Banach> does anyone know where i can find the 'proper' uk keyboard layout, even loadkeys uk gives me an american map
[10:11] <sproingie> oh there it is.  typing "keyboard" into the search bar.  damn that's so freaking nice
[10:11] <jrib> javiolo: yeah, I'm used to it.  If you want something light, there is xfe.  I've alse been meaning to try thunar
[10:13] <lz1gjd> how do i install a new kernel for my arch and its header/modules etc. ?
[10:13] <Marc1> hi everyone  can anyone tell me if my card support 3d ,, http://pastebin.ca/88326
[10:13] <cd_rom> lmao
[10:13] <javiolo> jrib how about the auto mount volumes in ubuntu ?
[10:13] <Marc1> its result of glxinfo
[10:13] <cd_rom> just googled for one
[10:13] <Banach> sproingie what key problem you having???
[10:13] <cd_rom> :)
[10:13] <javiolo> jrib do they appear in the "desktop" ??
[10:14] <jrib> javiolo: I don't use it, but I think you can run 'gnome-volume-manager' and run something to show you desktop icons
[10:14] <sproingie> Banach: not having it anymore, i discovered the keyboard reconfigurator thingie now
[10:14] <karim> when an application looks for the home of the user, does it uses the environment variable $HOME, or does it go through another process like asking /etc/passwd through a system call ?
[10:14] <gr8nash> anyone heard if the PLF repos are down for good?
[10:14] <Banach> sproingie, what WAS the problem? I can't find a damn uk keymap anywhere on my system :(
[10:14] <javiolo> jrib ok you helped me the first stage! thanks!
[10:14] <kbrooks> gr8nash: let me see
[10:15] <jrib> javiolo: good luck.  One last thing: you know about checkinstall?
[10:15] <sproingie> Banach: i just used keyboard preferences.  should be able to switch maps with it
[10:15] <javiolo> jrib checkinstall? dont know what is
[10:15] <jrib> !checkinstall > javiolo
[10:15] <vdepizzol> XChat-GNOME 0.12 is out since june... why ubuntu repositories only have the version 0.11?
[10:15] <sproingie> Banach: whether or not it actually works for you, i don't know, i only have a us layout
[10:16] <cassidy> vdepizzol: the 0.12 is in Edgy
[10:16] <javiolo> jrib ahh to create a deb of the flux sources right ?
[10:16] <jrib> javiolo: yeah
[10:16] <teicah> finger kernel.org shows 2.6.17.4 as latest.. synaptic list 2.6.15 .. correct?  is there a ubuntu updater/repository(?) to get a newer version?
[10:16] <Usul> So anyone have an idea why bonobo/nautilus wont work at boot on powerpc when disconected from the net ?
[10:16] <RyanAmos> What's the command for ubuntu's graphical xorg.conf file configuration?
[10:17] <vdepizzol> cassidy, so, why dapper don't have?
[10:17] <Banach> sproingie, it doesnt. looking at the picture of the keyboard even the uk layout (international not dvorak) has the pipe next to return (on a standard uk kbd its next to z)
[10:17] <javiolo> jrib btw Ive seen packages of 1.0 on deb
[10:17] <Banach> xorgconfig?
[10:17] <cassidy> vdepizzol: because Dapper is freezed
[10:17] <javiolo> jrib but not for ppc
[10:17] <jrib> javiolo: oh
[10:17] <gr8nash> kbrooks, any love on the PLF repos?
[10:17] <edulix> hi
[10:17] <RyanAmos> Banach: nope...
[10:17] <cassidy> vdepizzol: i compiled it for Dapper if you want
[10:17] <cassidy> vdepizzol: http://cass.no-ip.com/~cassidy/files/ubuntu/dapper/xchat-gnome_0.12-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:17] <edulix> when installing a package, i get:
[10:17] <Usul> Aargh -- I cant even boot the livecd!!
[10:17] <edulix> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/es/api/kfontdialog.png', which is also in package koffice-i18n-es
[10:18] <Banach> RyanAmos, X --configure ?
[10:18] <edulix> isn't there a (easy) way to let it overwrite and continue? I really don't mind the icon =)
[10:18] <sproingie>   wow, i have a working cmps key :)
[10:18] <vdepizzol> thank you, cassidy
[10:18] <javiolo> jrib did you build fluxbox with imlib2 support ?
[10:18] <jrib> javiolo: yes, though I haven't actually used anything to test it yet
[10:18] <roostishaw> what is the linux equivalent to the python idle editor?
[10:18] <cassidy> vdepizzol: np
[10:18] <RyanAmos> Banach: Naa, it's a window that pops up where you can go step by step through the setup
[10:18] <javiolo> jrib didnt you add icons to desktop ?
[10:19] <vdepizzol> cassidy ;)
[10:19] <FatalCure> roostishaw: idle is available in linux too :)
[10:19] <jrib> javiolo: nope, I like a clean desktop
[10:19] <Banach> RyanAmos, just use command line, its probably easier :P
[10:19] <sproingie> roostishaw: idle runs fine on linux.  ugly tho.  try SPE (which is pretty heavyweight)
[10:19] <roostishaw> sproingie, what is the package for idle?
[10:19] <javiolo> jrib just terminal ? :P
[10:19] <roostishaw> or FatalCure
[10:20] <sproingie> roostishaw: unsurprisingly, it's idle
[10:20] <ThunderStruck> roostishaw: idle? as in python-idle?
[10:20] <roostishaw> lol, ok. thanks guys (or girls)
[10:20] <sproingie> roostishaw: you could also try eric3
[10:20] <roostishaw> yes
[10:20] <ThunderStruck> roostishaw: python2.4-idle or 2.3 or just python-idle
[10:21] <sproingie> just plain idle works for me
[10:21] <RyanAmos> Banach: I'm trying to setup dual monitors... :(
[10:21] <sproingie> eric > idle
[10:21] <sproingie> i'd like SPE if it were more stable
[10:21] <Banach> RyanAmos, http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/installation/dualheadhowto.htm
[10:22] <grphx> Hey, I'm trying to run a startup script, but it says permission denied.  What gives?  I changed the folder to 777 too
[10:22] <RyanAmos> Banach: Great, google has been no help... :)
[10:22] <jrib> grphx: how are you setting it up?
[10:22] <sproingie> tho eric starts with the angriest clutter i've ever seen on an interface
[10:22] <Banach> RyanAmos, the url i just posted came from google
[10:22] <sproingie> i don't think lightwave was even this bad
[10:22] <grphx> It's a MUD, and I already ran the make file, and now I'm trying to start it up
[10:22] <Usul> cant boot into live Dapper CD: "Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to register the file manager view server."
[10:23] <dbuiviet> Hi every1
[10:23] <dbuiviet> :)
[10:23] <teicah> should I adopt 'LVM' when partitioning my upcoming ubuntu installation? 1hdd9250gb).. might add another(160gb)?
[10:23] <gr8nash> Usul, i had a sorta similar problem .. turned out to be a bad cdrom
[10:23] <ThunderStruck> Usul: join 3ubuntu+1
[10:23] <RyanAmos> Banach: Yea, I realized I've been there...  It's to no help
[10:23] <Banach> with x now switching to Xgl are we gonna have configs in different places or is it still gonna be /etxc/X11 ?
[10:23] <ThunderStruck> join #ubuntu+1 Usul
[10:23] <gr8nash> but a bad disk could do it too
[10:23] <grphx> What do you mean how did I set it up?
[10:23] <ThunderStruck> grphx: thats not the issue
[10:24] <Banach> RyanAmos, how come? i followed that guide for a friend, restarted x and it worked fine
[10:24] <stormchas3r> how can I connect to my wap when it uses wpa encryption?
[10:24] <ThunderStruck> gr8nash: sorry
[10:24] <RyanAmos> Banach: I'm a linux n00b :(
[10:24] <Usul> gr8nash only problem is I get the same error on my hard drive install
[10:24] <tritium> stormchas3r: you'll need wpasupplicant
[10:24] <ThunderStruck> Usul: your not on dapper if you get that error
[10:24] <devhen> anyone here familiar with Image Magick command line tools?
[10:24] <grphx> ThunderStruck: What do you mean, how did I set it up?
[10:25] <lz1gjd> how do i install a new kernel for my arch and its headers/modules etc. ?
[10:25] <ThunderStruck> Usul: now please join #ubuntu+1
[10:25] <jrib> devhen: maybe, ask a more specific question :P
[10:25] <stormchas3r> tritium: were can i get that?
[10:25] <Usul> ThunderStruck yes I am
[10:25] <gr8nash> ThunderStruck, what is ubuntu+1?
[10:25] <ThunderStruck> grphx: i meant someone else
[10:25] <grphx> Oh
[10:25] <jrib> grphx: where did you put your startup script?
[10:25] <skavenge> lz1gjd: build it from scratch
[10:25] <Usul> ThunderStruck I upgraded and am trying to reinstall
[10:25] <ThunderStruck> Usul: what is lsb_release -a say
[10:25] <Banach> RyanAmos, thats ok, everybody has to start somewhere :) do you know what your hardware exactly is? because if you followed that guide to the tee then you would only get it to work if you had the same as he does
[10:25] <snoops> Banach x11 will stay.. because you still use it with xgl.. and then there's aiglx and exgl
[10:25] <devhen> well, using the image magick convert tool the -page option sometimes gives me a 251x251 image when i ask for a 250x250 image
[10:25] <gr8nash> is that a support channel?
[10:25] <XGas> where are the C header files that matches the kernel of Ubuntu 6.06 stored?
[10:25] <Usul> ThunderStruck hold on i need a term...
[10:25] <sproingie> XGas: linux-headers
[10:25] <lz1gjd> im not really interested into this, just whats in the repos
[10:25] <grphx> jrib: What do you mean where?  It was already somewhere int he program's folder
[10:26] <tritium> XGas: linux-headers-$(uname -r) matches your running kernel
[10:26] <sproingie> XGas: install it and you'll get /usr/src/linux (and it'll only have headers)
[10:26] <Banach> snoops, do you know how i tell if Xgl/compiz is using hardware accel, it seems a little tardy and my box isnt exactly sloppy
[10:26] <XGas> aaah?
[10:26] <ThunderStruck> Usul: the lib was just updated and is causing issues in edgy iirc dapper hasnt gotten that update
[10:26] <tritium> stormchas3r: apt-get install it
[10:26] <godtvisk1n> Is there an ubuntu-way to recompile my kernel? I need a 2.6.16 kernel for USB support for my Rio Karma. I only have the 2.6.15-26-386 kernel.
[10:26] <tritium> !wpa > stormchas3r
[10:26] <ThunderStruck> Usul: and if you reboot it will go away ;)
[10:26] <Usul> ThunderStruck im on the live cd now... gimme a sec to reboot
[10:26] <skavenge> lz1gjd: ubuntu automatically updates to the newest kernel in the repos
[10:26] <jrib> grphx: oh I thought you meant a startup script as in a script to run at startup.  What program is this?
[10:26] <snoops> I'm assuming you've installed your drivers (nvidia or ati) and had that working before going ahead with installing xgl/compiz Banach?
[10:27] <stormchas3r> tritium: ty
[10:27] <lz1gjd> but how do i tell it to update to k7 or i686 ?
[10:27] <tritium> godtvisk1n: yes, the same as the debian way -- use make-kpkg (part of kernel-package)
[10:27] <Banach> snoops, yes, but it still seems ultra slack
[10:27] <grphx> jrib: It'sa  ROM based mud.
[10:27] <dbuiviet> Hello, does any1 here know a good documentation to get Xgl and compiz working in an ATI graphic card (ATI Mobility Radeon 9000) on a Dell laptop (mine is Latitude D600)...I got ATI driver working properly, with 3D hardware accelarated, but couldn't load the plugins of compiz to work on startup :-(
[10:27] <tritium> lz1gjd: your kernel?  sudo apt-get install linux-686, for example
[10:27] <sproingie> Banach: glxinfo | grep direct
[10:27] <snoops> Banach what card?
[10:27] <Usul> ThunderStruck ive had this prob for weeks
[10:27] <skavenge> lz1gjd: find it in synaptic and install it
[10:27] <lz1gjd> ic, thx
[10:27] <Usul> same error
[10:27] <snoops> sproingie xgl doesn't use direct rendering
[10:27] <Banach> dbuiviet, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[10:27] <gr8nash> dbuiviet, did you read the XGL thread on ubuntuforums.org?
[10:27] <Banach> sproingie, direct rendering is off in Xgl
[10:27] <Usul> ThunderStruck i cant even log into gnome
[10:28] <skavenge> #ubuntu-xgl would be alot better place for this
[10:28] <ThunderStruck> Usul: try to install that lib when you boot into ubuntu again
[10:28] <Banach> snoops, nvidia geforce 6800
[10:28] <tritium> lz1gjd: be sure to grab the linux-$(arch) packages, and not just the linux-image packages, so you don't miss getting restricted modules, etc.
[10:28] <Usul> ThunderStruck gonna try using the default xterm
[10:28] <lz1gjd> for athlon64 which arch is more suitable i686 or k7
[10:28] <dbuiviet> yep, I did follow them, and I did visit compiz.net to check the howto, but I just didnt get the luck :-(
[10:28] <snoops> Banach oh so you should be getting good performance.. using the latest releases?
[10:28] <grphx> jrib: It'sa  ROM based mud.
[10:28] <stormchas3r> tritium: apt-get wpasupplicant?
[10:28] <Banach> snoops, updated to dapper yesterday
[10:28] <sproingie> lz1gjd: amd64 actually.  but that's a different distribution
[10:29] <sproingie> lz1gjd: otherwise it really doesn't matter much
[10:29] <gr8nash> dbuiviet, XGL + ATI http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253
[10:29] <grphx> You run a make file, then go to another directory and do a: ./startup & and it starts the MUd, which will let you connect to it
[10:29] <snoops> Banach of xgl and compiz that is
[10:29] <XGas> where do I get the kernal headers?
[10:29] <Banach> snoops, yeah, i was using hoary until then :P and installed the nvidia driver first
[10:29] <sproingie> XGas: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[10:29] <tritium> stormchas3r: yes
[10:29] <tritium> XGas: I already told you
[10:29] <skavenge> ...
[10:29] <stormchas3r> didnt work
[10:29] <tritium> XGas: linux-headers-$(uname -r) matches your running kernel (to remind you)
[10:30] <lz1gjd> then k7 , but when i try to install them it installs version 2.6.15.26 how do i tell it to install 2.6.15.25 so i could use vmware-player
[10:30] <jrib> grphx: it's probably trying to access something your user doesn't have permission for
[10:30] <sproingie> linux-headers works if you only have one kernel installed
[10:30] <kram3r> question for anyone:  is there a method to configure and swap on the fly between an external monitor and a projector for a laptop
[10:30] <sysrpl> hi
[10:30] <sysrpl> http://digg.com/politics/George_Bush_Outlaws_Freedom_of_Speech
[10:30] <Adsum> does anyone know if its safe to install compiz on 64-bit dapper??
[10:30] <dbuiviet> gr8nash: I followed the link already, and from that I went to compiz.net howto, but still no luck, I heard that there's an known issue for ATI Mobility series with compiz and XGL, am I right?
[10:30] <ThunderStruck> lz1gjd: reboot and choose 2.6.15-25 in the grub list
[10:30] <sproingie> Adsum: if it's available it probably works
[10:30] <ompaul> sysrpl, way offtopic for here
[10:30] <tritium> sysrpl: that's offtopic.  Please don't paste that here
[10:30] <stormchas3r> tritium: it said i have the newest version
[10:30] <tritium> stormchas3r: good
[10:30] <kram3r> by moethod I mean other that editing /etc/X11/corg.conf by hand
[10:30] <Banach> dbuiviet, you follow the howto on the wiki?
[10:31] <stormchas3r> tritium: so were do i out in my wpa key?
[10:31] <philippe> hello everyone
[10:31] <grphx> jrib: Probably.  I've had it on my windows box and moved it to my linux box to run it, and now it is saying that.  Think it has something to do with it?
[10:31] <Adsum> sproingie: i ment more like if there are any known troubles with it
[10:31] <philippe> how could i upgrade from warty to dapper.
[10:31] <philippe> ?
[10:31] <lz1gjd> i need to tell it specifically to install 2.6.15.25
[10:31] <dbuiviet> Banach: on the wiki? could you give me the link? I just looked in ubuntuforums.org
[10:31] <sproingie> Adsum: only one way to find out, really
[10:31] <tritium> lz1gjd: then install the package I told you to
[10:31] <Adsum> sproingie: yeah but im terrible at error recovery and i've already have had to reinstall everything :P
[10:32] <snoops> dbuiviet http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl then http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompoisteManager/InstallingCompiz
[10:32] <Banach> dbuiviet, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper select the compiz xgl section ont eh menu and itl send you there
[10:32] <jrib> grphx: no idea, there are a few results for MUD in apt.  Maybe you can try those
[10:32] <lz1gjd> ok, thx
[10:32] <sproingie> Banach: that's some erratic spacebar you have
[10:32] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[10:32] <dbuiviet> ok, great, guys, thanks so much, I will take a look there, hopefully I will get it work :)
[10:32] <mrcoyote> xgl & compiz ROXXXXXXXXXXx my desktop and my life
[10:32] <mrcoyote> it is very beautifulll
[10:32] <snoops> Banach - so you're using quinn's repos? eg when you setup xgl/compiz you used the beerorkid + compiz.info repos?
[10:33] <Banach> sproingie, nope, im just crap at typing :P (and it doesnt help i dont know where half my keys are mapped to)
[10:33] <mrcoyote> 3d desktop roxxx
[10:33] <grphx> jrib: I had it working and all that, but I changed servers and copied my old source code to my windows machine and now I want to put it back on another linux box.  I think beacuse I had it on a windows machine, it screwed with the permissions
[10:33] <calloc> hi all, Ive just installed ubuntu 5.10 - its found my wireless router and ive provided the relevant details, but i still cant conect to anything and if i try pinging the router i get "DESTINATION HOST UNREACHABLE" - can anyone offer some help with this? All details are correct, thanks
[10:33] <sproingie> all this xgl/compiz stuff isn't gonna work with a radeon 9800, is it?
[10:33] <snoops> mrcoyote that it is.. know about ctrl+alt+page down (unless you changed it)?
[10:33] <jrib> grphx: ah, yeah probably
[10:33] <Banach> snoops, the beerorkid repo wasnt working, kept getting 404s, cant remember how i got it working but i did
[10:33] <snoops> sproingie yep it'll work if you have the binary ati drivers working
[10:33] <grphx> So is there a way I can make a copy to where the original owner is my current user?
[10:33] <sproingie> snoops: does it work reasonably well or is it glacial?
[10:33] <Usul> ThunderStruck What lib do I install? I verified the lib_release and its dapper
[10:33] <snoops> Banach ah you may be using old versions then - hence your lag
[10:34] <grphx> jrib:  So is there a way I can make a copy to where the original owner is my current user?
[10:34] <Banach> snoops: did this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29
[10:34] <snoops> sproingie it's alpha software..
[10:34] <ThunderStruck> Usul: Usul are you on live cd right now?
[10:34] <mrcoyote> snoops, i am decoverring now loool
[10:34] <mrcoyote> i hvae sry
[10:34] <sproingie> snoops: heh.  i think i'll wait for it to land in edgy release then :)
[10:34] <kelbizzle> " libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:34] <kelbizzle> E: Broken packages
[10:34] <kelbizzle> "
[10:34] <kelbizzle> whats that error mean?
[10:34] <Usul> no the live cd doesnt work im on a safe xterm session
[10:34] <ThunderStruck> Usul: apt-cache policy libonobo   let me know if it is installed
[10:34] <mrcoyote> snoops, it is beautifulesss than 3d switching
[10:34] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: sudo apt-get -f isntall
[10:34] <jrib> grphx: you can just 'chown -R username:username directory' and everything under there will be owned by your user.  But the actual permissions may be messed up as well
[10:34] <sproingie> amazing, edgy will probably make it out before vista.
[10:34] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:34] <kelbizzle> ty thunder
[10:35] <Banach> snoops, whats the beerorkid repo? is it just a case of adding it to sources.list and updating? got a howto for the beerorkid version?
[10:35] <KnowledgEngi> ubuntu developers are considering it: http://www.thenetplanet.com/ ???
[10:35] <ThunderStruck> sproingie: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[10:35] <Usul> ThunderStruck not installed
[10:35] <calloc> hi all, Ive just installed ubuntu 5.10 - its found my wireless router and ive provided the relevant details, but i still cant conect to anything and if i try pinging the router i get "DESTINATION HOST UNREACHABLE" - can anyone offer some help with this? All details are correct, thanks
[10:35] <ThunderStruck> Usul: install it please
[10:35] <KnowledgEngi> exist some software for ubuntu like this ???
[10:35] <ThunderStruck> Usul: sudo apt-get install libonobo
[10:35] <snoops> Banach yeah go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl then add the repositories it mentions
[10:35] <snoops> and run an update
[10:35] <Banach> snoops. cheers
[10:36] <LjL> calloc: i'm not familiar with wireless problems, but just thought i'd ask, are you aware the current version of ubuntu is 6.06?
[10:36] <tritium> Banach: your name reminds me too much of mathematics courses
[10:36] <grphx> jrib:  My current username is "mud", so wha twould I need to type?
[10:36] <ThunderStruck> Usul: but you might have to install it after you boot into ubuntu
[10:36] <tritium> (nick, I should say)
[10:36] <Usul> cant find package
[10:36] <snoops> as well as adding the gpg key
[10:36] <Usul> ThunderStruck cant find paclage
[10:36] <KnowledgEngi> some software (IA_Knowledge-management-base) for intelligent searching of document ?
[10:36] <jrib> grphx: is the game in your HOME?
[10:36] <ThunderStruck> Usul: apt-cache policy  showed what repo?
[10:36] <snoops> sproingie I recommend trying it out.. I love it and find it incredibly frustrating when I'm at work and not using it
[10:36] <calloc> LjL, the only copy i have is 5.10
[10:36] <Banach> tritium: well thats not really a surprise to me, I'm an algebraic geometer and the great man is where i've taken my nick from!!!
[10:36] <MFen> does ubuntu have a better tool for automatically configuring monitors, yet?
[10:36] <sproingie> snoops: probably the mother of all FAQ's, but where's the guide to installing it?
[10:36] <tritium> Banach: :)
[10:37] <MFen> something that probes the monitor capabilities
[10:37] <grphx> jrib: Yeh, home/MUD
[10:37] <ThunderStruck> Usul: how did you remove that package without seeing everything drop infront of you?
[10:37] <MFen> i have a 1600x1200 monitor that ubuntu is trying to run as 1024 or worse
[10:37] <kelbizzle> hey thunder It didnt work
[10:37] <yggwork> can somone help me figure out how to get a link to my home folder on desktop .. and a file system link too
[10:37] <tritium> Banach: well, just consider this channel your "space"
[10:37] <chikosanchez> Hey all
[10:37] <Banach> tritium, lol
[10:37] <Usul> ThunderStruck what repo? what info do you want from that last command? im on ppc
[10:37] <LjL> yggwork: "man ln"
[10:37] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: discribe what you are trying to do and what version of ubuntu
[10:37] <yggwork> ok thats what i thought just wasnt sure if there was a gui method
[10:37] <Banach> tritium, if only it satisfied....
[10:37] <jrib> !fixres > MFen
[10:38] <Usul> ThunderStruck never removed it! and nothing does work
[10:38] <LjL> yggwork: specifically, you'll want "ln -s <filename> <linkname>"
[10:38] <ThunderStruck> Usul: i need to see what repo it showed whne you ran apt-cache policy libonobo
[10:38] <LjL> yggwork: i don't know
[10:38] <snoops> two parts sproingie there's the open gl server layer (xgl) and the compositing manager(uses xgl to gives the nice effects )
[10:38] <jrib> grphx: sudo chown mud:mud /home/mud/MUD
[10:38] <kelbizzle> I'm trying to $sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev. I'm using 6.0.6.
[10:38] <snoops> sproingie http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl then http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompoisteManager/InstallingCompiz
[10:38] <ompaul> !xgl
[10:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:38] <azcazandco> anyone got advice on getting a webcam working under ubuntu?
[10:38] <jrib> !webcam
[10:38] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:38] <Banach> anywho peoples it was nice chatting but i must be off. tara rwan (for any welsh amongst you)
[10:38] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: give me a min
[10:38] <kelbizzle> alrighty.
[10:38] <chikosanchez> I need help with a sick error... "failed to initialize HAL!" someone can help?
[10:38] <calloc> hi all, Ive just installed ubuntu 5.10 - its found my wireless router and ive provided the relevant details, but i still cant conect to anything and if i try pinging the router i get "DESTINATION HOST UNREACHABLE" - can anyone offer some help with this? All details are correct, thanks
[10:39] <azcazandco> thanks jrib
[10:39] <Usul> ThunderStruck shit, i appear to be on Breezy!!!!
[10:39] <Usul> ThunderStruck do i simply switch the breezy for dapper in the repo?
[10:39] <tritium> Usul: language, please
[10:39] <kelbizzle> You guys are soo helpful.
[10:39] <kelbizzle> I'm never leaving!
[10:39] <kelbizzle> :-p
[10:39] <grphx> jrib:  What is the MUD part on what you told me?
[10:39] <chikosanchez> I need help with a sick error... "failed to initialize HAL!" someone can help?
[10:40] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: apt-cache policy libglib2.0-dev   <<<run that and let me know what version is avalible
[10:40] <snoops> chikosanchez is that on the latest kernel? 2.6.15-26?
[10:40] <ompaul> chikosanchez, wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[10:40] <ThunderStruck> Usul: change all breezy to dapper in the repos and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:40] <kelbizzle> libglib2.0-dev:
[10:40] <kelbizzle>   Installed: (none)
[10:40] <kelbizzle>   Candidate: 2.10.2-1ubuntu3
[10:40] <kelbizzle>   Version table:
[10:40] <kelbizzle>      2.10.2-1ubuntu3 0
[10:40] <kelbizzle>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[10:40] <jrib> grphx: the lowercase mud is your username, the capital MUD is the folder in your HOME (which I assume to be /home/mud)
[10:40] <tritium> kelbizzle: use pastebin, dude
[10:40] <jrib> !paste > kelbizzle
[10:40] <Usul> tritium french canadian
[10:40] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[10:40] <McNutella> why does skype take so long to load ?
[10:41] <chikosanchez> ompaul ill take a look
[10:41] <calloc> Is there issues with 5.10 and WPA??
[10:41] <ThunderStruck> that was my fault for not being less general
[10:41] <grphx> jrib: Eh it still says no good
[10:41] <NKayhan> Does anybody know what the URI for the ubuntu packages are
[10:41] <grphx> what is the mud:mud
[10:41] <ompaul> kelbizzle, do not just throw things inoto the channel please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org thanks
[10:41] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: ok try installing it with the command i gave you
[10:41] <tritium> Usul: no, that's not what I mean.  I mean watch your language.
[10:41] <jrib> grphx: your username and groupname
[10:41] <kelbizzle> same issue
[10:41] <MFen> jrib: thanks, i'm on the right track now
[10:41] <ompaul> NKayhan, packages.ubuntu.com
[10:41] <Adsum> does anyone know if there are any 3d-windows-managers available that works more like project looking glass??
[10:42] <chikosanchez> snoops: how can i show my kernel version?
[10:42] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin?
[10:42] <tritium> chikosanchez: uname -r
[10:42] <Usul> I cant get a slash!!!!
[10:42] <grphx> Yeh.. the mud folder is 777, it should let anybody do anything right?
[10:42] <jrib> grphx: the actual permissions are messed up, you can try chmod to everything 777 but that may be a security problem
[10:42] <Usul> the keyboard layout isnt really usefull
[10:42] <ThunderStruck> grphx: yes
[10:42] <jrib> grphx: the stuff instide may not be
[10:42] <chikosanchez> chikosanchez -r
[10:42] <grphx> ah, how can I change everything inside?
[10:43] <ThunderStruck> 755 is what i use but i cant remember what exactly it is
[10:43] <ThunderStruck> grphx: -r
[10:43] <mabus> grphx: chmod 777 *
[10:43] <tritium> chikosanchez: what the heck was that?
[10:43] <ThunderStruck> sorry -R
[10:43] <grphx> Which one?
[10:43] <ThunderStruck> grphx: man chmod
[10:43] <jrib> grphx: chmod -R 777 /home/mud/MUD
[10:43] <ThunderStruck> its -R
[10:43] <chikosanchez> My Kernel: 2.6.12-10-386
[10:44] <ThunderStruck> and i thought everyone was on dapper
[10:44] <bashta_ti> can someone help me ... I don't have permision to show my winfdows mounts in apache .... how can I evade this ??
[10:45] <pietrob71> hi to everybody
[10:45] <NKayhan> is there a way of installing ubuntu's specialized synaptic?
[10:45] <grphx> Well it works now, but it says: bash: ./startup: /bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[10:45] <MenZa> Aha.
[10:45] <Dial_tone> NKayhan, ?
[10:45] <chikosanchez> snoops: my kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[10:45] <jaek> i want to remove all packages installed from a given repo... is there an easy way to do that?
[10:45] <kelbizzle> HEY thunder http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18037
[10:45] <pietrob71> is there someone with dapper+xgl
[10:45] <pietrob71> ?
[10:46] <ThunderStruck> pietrob71: join #ubuntu-xgl
[10:46] <calloc> does 5.10 support WPA encrypt???
[10:46] <pietrob71> thanks
[10:46] <ThunderStruck> calloc: should last i checked
[10:46] <grphx> I've seen this error before but can't remember hwpo to fix it
[10:46] <NKayhan> Dial_tone: yea, I have the generic one, but I want the one with the ubuntu packages
[10:46] <snoops> ah okay.. chikosanchez ompaul pasted a url to ubuntu's bootoptions.. might have something to do with it.. not sure
[10:46] <tritium> calloc: with a package called wpasupplicant, yes
[10:46] <jrib> grphx: install csh
[10:46] <grphx> How?
[10:47] <jrib> grphx: sudo aptitude install csh
[10:47] <kelbizzle> HEY thunder http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18037
[10:47] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: i didnt forget my browser is taking forever
[10:47] <kelbizzle> oh ok
[10:47] <kelbizzle> soryr
[10:47] <grphx> Okay I did that, is it instaled?
[10:47] <kelbizzle> how do you respond to only me
[10:47] <apocthebum> !grub
[10:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:47] <chikosanchez> snoops: ok, ill try to find out something about that...
[10:47] <Usul> ThunderStruck i ran the command after changing the sources.list but nothing new was installed or changed
[10:47] <grphx> A lot of stuff showed up in my terminal
[10:47] <NKayhan> ThunderStruck: hey, remember my question
[10:47] <chikosanchez> snoops: thank you!
[10:47] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: uncomment all repos except the cdrom one
[10:47] <ThunderStruck> NKayhan: no
[10:48] <KnowledgEngi> i would like that ubuntu offer something like that:
[10:48] <KnowledgEngi> http://www.destinationkm.com/articles/default.asp?ArticleID=556
[10:48] <ompaul> snoops, I typed it (I wrote it :)
[10:48] <Dial_tone> NKayhan, you need to change the repositories, not synaptic
[10:48] <ThunderStruck> Usul: are the repos enabled? or do they still have the # infront of them
[10:48] <NKayhan> Thunderstruck: about synaptic
[10:48] <ThunderStruck> NKayhan: yes
[10:48] <snoops> ah awesome ompaul
[10:48] <roostishaw> how can i exit x?
[10:48] <grphx> It still doesn't work
[10:48] <ThunderStruck> NKayhan: you installed it
[10:48] <ThunderStruck> roostishaw: to restart x?
[10:48] <roostishaw> exit
[10:48] <NKayhan> Thunderstruck: Why is the repretory preferances so differant
[10:49] <roostishaw> so as to use minimal resources
[10:49] <ThunderStruck> NKayhan: i dont know never use that way
[10:49] <grphx> Same error message
[10:49] <roostishaw> while playing a game
[10:49] <kelbizzle> hey thuinder # #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[10:49] <kelbizzle> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[10:49] <kelbizzle> ? that one?.
[10:49] <NKayhan> Thunderstruck: OK
[10:49] <Usul> ThunderStruck problem is that I unconfigured my eth0 how do I activate it?
[10:49] <ThunderStruck> the first one leave it with the #
[10:49] <roostishaw> ThunderStruck, do u now how
[10:49] <roostishaw> ?
[10:49] <qwertybob> api mismatch, kerenl module 7174 x module 8762?
[10:49] <ThunderStruck> roostishaw: are you playing a texted based game?
[10:50] <FatalCure> roostishaw: logout, ctrl-alt-f1, log in 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop'
[10:50] <qwertybob> ive tried changing kernels reinstalling nvidia stuff
[10:50] <ThunderStruck> FatalCure: only if its a texted based game
[10:50] <kelbizzle> was that for me?
[10:50] <ThunderStruck> if its a gui game poof game is over
[10:50] <grphx> jrib: I did it, and a lot of stuff scrolled by, is it done?
[10:50] <FatalCure> ThunderStruck: just answering the question :)
[10:50] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: leave the # infront of the cdrom repo get rid of the # from all the other ones
[10:50] <qwertybob> im finding some stuff on the forums,
[10:50] <kelbizzle> oh ok
[10:50] <ThunderStruck> FatalCure: i know thats why i asked
[10:51] <Usul> ThunderStruck thats basically why i cant log in to the gui interface, is that i unconfigured the connection. Now I cant boot into the gui at all. How do I activate it by command line?
[10:51] <roostishaw> FatalCure, but with ctrl+alt+f1, wont that still use resources?
[10:51] <ThunderStruck> Usul: you dont need a network to boot into gui
[10:51] <tritium> qwertybob: what's going on?  For starters, do you have linux-restricted-modules that match your kernel version?
[10:51] <ThunderStruck> lol
[10:51] <jrib> grphx: type 'which csh', what does it say?
[10:51] <Usul> ThunderStruck thats my problem!!! i cant boo into gui when i dont have a connection!
[10:51] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck: It's a read only file.
[10:51] <qwertybob> why is ubuntu installing driver 8762 when there is no match for it in kernel module version?
[10:52] <qwertybob> or am i missing something
[10:52] <grphx> jrib: Nothing
[10:52] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: close it than type gksudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list    or replace nano with fav text editor
[10:52] <Usul> ThunderStruck thats why im here ;) so now im trying to update but i cant cause by default im not connected, how do i connect by command line?
[10:52] <grphx> jrib: It just goes to another line
[10:52] <ThunderStruck> Usul: your networking issues have _nothing_ to do with booting into ubuntu
[10:52] <jrib> grphx: apt-cache policy csh
[10:53] <tritium> qwertybob: the version of the nvidia-glx package has nothing to do with the kernel version number
[10:53] <Usul> ThunderStruck then why does it not work only when im not connected?
[10:53] <grphx> jrib: Unable to locate package
[10:53] <kelbizzle> now do $sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev?
[10:53] <ThunderStruck> Usul: any computer will boot any OS without being connected to internet
[10:53] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: no
[10:53] <qwertybob> tritium: i mean nvidia kernel module version
[10:53] <kelbizzle> kk
[10:53] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: sudo apt-get update
[10:53] <jrib> !universe > grphx
[10:53] <jrib> grphx: enable universe
[10:53] <Usul> ThunderStruck thats nice, but it gives me a bonobo error only when im not connected
[10:53] <tritium> qwertybob: see my above question, and please answer
[10:54] <Usul> and now i unconfigured my eth0 so it wont boot, so how can i reconfigure eth0 by default from command line???? help please!
[10:54] <ThunderStruck> Usul: thats 2 seperate issues fix one than the other (since you feel the need to dispute this feel free to fix on own
[10:54] <grphx> jrib: What do I type?
[10:54] <tritium> Usul: do you want it up automatically at boot?
[10:55] <Usul> ThunderStruck yes, i need to have my eth0 configured or else nothinbg will work
[10:55] <XGas> thx, now it works
[10:55] <Usul> tritium yer
[10:55] <tritium> Usul: your /etc/network/interfaces line needs to list "auto eth0" before the "iface eth0 inet dhcp" line
[10:55] <advant_> The network-manager applet is only showing my wired connection, and not my wireless.  How can I fix this?
[10:55] <qwertybob> tritium: ok so ill check that, but its a fresh install , dist-upgrade, then problem
[10:55] <ThunderStruck> Usul: my point fix network adn ubuntu still shouldnt boot
[10:55] <tritium> qwertybob: which kernel do you have?
[10:55] <kelbizzle> ThunderStrike:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18040
[10:55] <ThunderStruck> ubuntu doesnt depend on a network connection to boot
[10:56] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: you are fudged by the looks of things
[10:56] <phunkalicious> advant_, edit the file /etc/network/interfaces, and comment everything out except auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[10:56] <kelbizzle> how come :-(
[10:56] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: uname -r
[10:57] <ThunderStruck> what does that say
[10:57] <qwertybob> tritium: i wnent back to -25, you are right restricted modules are for -26
[10:57] <advant_> phunkalicious :  ok will try and reboot.  thanks
[10:57] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: make that lsb_release -a
[10:57] <phaedrus44> ubuntu is cool
[10:57] <jrib> grphx: ubotu sent you a private message
[10:57] <phaedrus44> especially comnig from staright deb
[10:57] <qwertybob> tritium: i had checked it before and it was the same though and it didnt work, ill try moving to -26 kernel then
[10:57] <kelbizzle> No LSB modules are available.
[10:57] <kelbizzle> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[10:57] <kelbizzle> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[10:57] <kelbizzle> Release:        6.06
[10:57] <kelbizzle> Codename:       dapper
[10:58] <qwertybob> thaks
[10:58] <grphx> ok
[10:58] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: ok all you had to do was tell me dapper or breezy
[10:58] <grphx> jrib: What do you want me to do?
[10:58] <tritium> qwertybob: that's your problem, then
[10:58] <Usul> tritium i still get the nautilus bonobo error??? how do i get rid of that?
[10:58] <qwertybob> maybe, i hope
[10:58] <tritium> qwertybob: which arch do you have?
[10:58] <qwertybob> amd 64
[10:58] <kelbizzle> I did ealier. Sorry I didnt know.
[10:58] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: get rid of all breezy repos and the plf repo and the wine repo
[10:58] <tritium> Usul: I didn't see your error
[10:58] <tritium> kelbizzle: please don't paste
[10:58] <grphx> jrib: I have a feeling it didn't install it right or something
[10:58] <kelbizzle> OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[10:58] <tuxtux_> reboot
[10:59] <kelbizzle> Sorry 5 lines of text is inconveint
[10:59] <Usul> tritium i get a bonono error saying that nautilus wont boot
[10:59] <qwertybob> tritium: its amd 64 but i am using 32 bit install and 386 kernel
[10:59] <Usul> thats what i always get when im not connected to the web
[10:59] <yipe> what's the command to make initrd?
[10:59] <jrib> grphx: nope, you need universe
[10:59] <qwertybob> tritium: should i go to the -26 kernel for 386?
[11:00] <grphx> jrib: What is that?
[11:00] <ipl31> Can someone point me to a good site that explains how to get ubuntu kernel source via git?
[11:00] <Seveas> yipe, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-package_version_you_want_initrd_for
[11:00] <Usul> AAAaargh
[11:00] <jrib> grphx: did you get a private message from ubotu?
[11:00] <yipe> hi seveas
[11:00] <Usul> im still not connected
[11:00] <grphx> jrib: Er yeh
[11:00] <tritium> qwertybob: yes.  Easiest way is to make sure you have linux-386 package installed.  you might also want to try linux-686 instead
[11:01] <Usul> my mac CD is worthless.... i reinstalled from breezy and upgraded and i still can boot when not connected to the web
[11:01] <yipe> ummm, I don't think I'm trying to "reconfigure", I'm making a new one with a new kernel
[11:01] <grphx> jrib: So I need to enable universe?
[11:01] <McNutella> how do I use the mic to talk without it putting my voice through the speakers
[11:01] <jrib> grphx: yes, to install csh
[11:02] <grphx> jrib: And that's a matter of editing a file I already haev?
[11:02] <Usul> how do I get my ubuntu to boot?? It wont even boot from liveCD???
[11:02] <mr_mojo> hi guys. does anyone know how to get ubuntu to log all nat connections to a file?
[11:02] <jrib> grphx: yes, or use the gui methods mentioned in the wiki
[11:02] <DerDracle> Um, I'm using Dapper, and, for some reason the g++ compiler is 4.0, but gcj is 4.1--- and there doesn't seem to be a g++-4.1 package.
[11:02] <Flannel> Usul: You need to make sure your CD is higher in the boot order than your harddrives
[11:02] <Usul> Can anyone help me get my ubunut to boot I have an bonobo error and nautilus wont boot
[11:02] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: wait
[11:03] <DerDracle> So, I'm having to specify the 'entire' library path for g++ 4.1 (where gcj4.1 installs the .h files etc) to compile binaries.
[11:03] <Usul> Flannel, thats not the problem--- it boots and  NAUTILUS wont boot!!! that is the same error on my hard drive installed version
[11:03] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: i got to thinking erase everything in that file and im gonna give you new repos
[11:03] <Warbo> Usul: Nautilus doesn't boot, Ubuntu boots. Nautilus opens/runs/executes/whatever, but it doesn't boot
[11:03] <DerDracle> Is there a repository somewhere with g++-4.1 in it?
[11:03] <kelbizzle> kk
[11:03] <QRZ> mr_mojo:  Is the Ubuntu box doing the NAT for you, or is something else providing it (such as a router)?
[11:03] <grphx> jrib: So I am in the file right now, do you know what I need to edit to enable it/
[11:03] <ipl31> Can someone point me to a good site that explains how to get ubuntu kernel source via git?
[11:04] <Usul> Warbo, thanks great, how do i get nautilus to open whatever????
[11:04] <kelbizzle> I thought you left me. I was gonna do the dapper repos for the ubuntu guide
[11:04] <Usul> nautilus won run!!!
[11:04] <jrib> grphx: remove the # from the beginning of lines that begin with 'deb'
[11:04] <Warbo> Usul: I don't know about bonobo problems, but saying "it won't boot" will get you some completely different help than that which you are after :)
[11:04] <philstar> what do I need to do to make Ubuntu compile things for 686 rather than 286?
[11:04] <philstar> sry, 386
[11:05] <grphx> I guess I have to sudo pico?
[11:05] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: go to the link im gonna give you and look near the bottom you will see a white area with text in it (repos) please copy all test in the white area and past it into your empty file that you have open
[11:05] <grphx> It says I dont have access to write to it
[11:05] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[11:05] <Usul> Warbo, ive had this prob since last6 install of breezy, im a sick of using my laptop only at home, it defeats the purpose
[11:05] <james> HI, how do i get into root ?
[11:05] <jrib> grphx: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:05] <Warbo> philstar: Try setting "--arch=686" in configure
[11:05] <ThunderStruck> james: sudo -i
[11:05] <grphx> n
[11:05] <james> ty
[11:05] <jrib> !sudo > james
[11:05] <grphx> opps
[11:05] <DerDracle> Hm.
[11:05] <Warbo> james: "cd /root" :)
[11:05] <FatalCure> ipl31: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide
[11:05] <Usul> How do I get my mac running on ubuntu to work when offline???
[11:06] <ipl31> FatalCure: Thank You
[11:06] <FatalCure> ipl31: yw :)
[11:06] <tritium> Usul: it should just work when offline
[11:06] <philstar> Warbo: I use debian build script or whatever... apt-get build-dep pkg
[11:06] <rubso> my monitor won't go into sleep/standby mode, any clue?
[11:06] <ThunderStruck> tritium: thats why i gave it up he insistes you need network to boot ubuntu
[11:06] <aujordanh> how do i access the repositories from a web browser?
[11:07] <grphx> OKaym, whats the line to install csh again?
[11:07] -BoDiUSA:#ubuntu- Duble Click On The Red http://www.speedyshare.com/654868402.html Save Cristina.exe , Then Open And Watch the Best Prono Movie Ever
[11:07] <grphx> jrib:  OKaym, whats the line to install csh again?
[11:07] <FatalCure> aujordanh: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <tritium> ThunderStruck: you don't
[11:07] <kelbizzle> ok do I save this to the sources.list file.
[11:07] <jrib> grphx: sudo aptitude install csh
[11:07] <kelbizzle> all that text.
[11:07] <Usul> tritium, I know it should but it DOESNT. I get an error from bonobo and nautilus wont run or do whatever it does
[11:07] -BoDiUSA:#ubuntu- Duble Click On The Red  http://www.speedyshare.com/654868402.html Save Cristina.exe , Then Open And Watch the Best Prono Movie Ever
[11:07] <ThunderStruck> aujordanh: click open go to /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:07] <SanketMedhi> BoDiUSA: stop spamming bitch
[11:07] <Flannel> !ops
[11:07] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:07] <Warbo> philstar: Hmm. That may depend on a global dpkg option (just guessing here), but I don't know if 686 is classed as an architecture in itself, since it is a subarchitecture of x86
[11:07] <DerDracle> Hm.
[11:07] <aujordanh> FatalCure: thank you
[11:07] <jrib> grphx: make sure you run 'sudo apt-get update' after editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <DerDracle> The package I want appears to be in "Edgy."
[11:07] <vasp> how can I change the resolution outside of X? Like when in recovery mode (cli ubuntu)
[11:07] <philstar> Warbo: since pkgs are explicitly compiled for i386, there must be a way to compile for i686
[11:07] <ThunderStruck> DerDracle: good chance its broken
[11:08] <FatalCure> aujordanh: np :)
[11:08] <Usul> Im trying to start in safemode gnome session but it says i nee to start dbussession service
[11:08] <tritium> ThunderStruck: you changed your nick!  I was wondering who this new op was...
[11:08] <rubso> my monitor won't go into sleep/standby mode, any clue?
[11:08] <ThunderStruck> yep me ;)
[11:08] <DerDracle> ThunderStruck, How do I include edgy in my sources.list to find out?
[11:08] <dxdemetriou> Is there a good program in apt that can I virtualize another Linux os with native speed?
[11:08] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck: do I save all that text to sources.list
[11:08] <ThunderStruck> DerDracle: you dont want to do that
[11:08] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: yes just click save
[11:08] <grphx> Now it says bad interpreter
[11:09] <Usul> Even in safemode gnome it doesnt run!!! I cant get ubuntu to boot into its GUI interface!
[11:09] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: make sure only the repos that i gave you are left
[11:09] <qwertybob> tritium: same error, api mismatch
[11:09] <ThunderStruck> Usul: reinstall
[11:09] <calloc> Can i upgrade to Dapper straight from Breezy??
[11:09] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck: Yep. they are. do I do sudo apt-get update now?
[11:09] <rubso> my monitor won't go into sleep/standby mode, any clue?
[11:09] <ThunderStruck> calloc: yes
[11:09] <Usul> I want to reinstall but even my liveCD wont start its NAutilus!
[11:09] <polpak> !upgrade > calloc
[11:09] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: yes
[11:09] <Warbo> dxdemetriou: The most elegant solution is XEN, but you would need to compile your kernels for it. VMWare is very fast, but is more of an application rather than a true virtualisation, as is qemu with the kqemu accellerator module
[11:09] <Flannel> Usul: get the alternate iso
[11:09] <qwertybob> tritium: kernel is -26, restricted modeuls -26
[11:09] <Usul> thunderstruck
[11:09] <DerDracle> ThunderStruck, Do you think trying to install the g++-4.1 .deb package would be a good idea?
[11:09] <ThunderStruck> DerDracle: no
[11:09] <tritium> qwertybob: good deal
[11:09] <Usul> thunderstruck how do i start my internet conncetion in eth0 from command line??
[11:10] <ThunderStruck> not unless its in dapper (and i think it is)
[11:10] <Usul> with that i could do my dist-upgrade
[11:10] <DerDracle> ThunderStruck, Then, is there 'no' intelligent way to get g++-4.1 working on Dapper?
[11:10] <tritium> Usul: sudo ifup eth0
[11:10] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck:Done
[11:10] <qwertybob> tritium: but still no nividia due to mismatch error
[11:10] <rubso> DO I FAIL?
[11:10] <tritium> qwertybob: huh?
[11:10] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: any errors?
[11:10] <rubso>  my monitor won't go into sleep/standby mode, any clue?\
[11:10] <apocthebum> help: im trying to reinstall grub. When I do 'find /boot/grub/stage1 it says: file not found, but I can go to that dir and its there.
[11:10] <PaoloC> is there anybody running a vanilla kernel?
[11:10] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck:No, Do I do the apt-get for libglib2.0-dev?
[11:10] <Warbo> rubso: You need the DPMS option set in xorg.conf
[11:10] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: first things first please
[11:10] <qwertybob> tritium: nvidia kernel version is 7174, x module 8762
[11:10] <rubso> Warbo: tell me how to do it !
[11:10] <Flannel> DerDracle: correct.
[11:10] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: did you get any errors?>
[11:11] <calloc> tritium, Is there WPA support in Dapper??
[11:11] <dxdemetriou> Warbo, I know that, but is there future plan for precompiled kernel with Dapper?
[11:11] <DerDracle> ThunderStruck, Do you know how well g++-4.0 and g++-4.1 produce ABI compatible binaries?
[11:11] <qwertybob> tritium: ive been doing this for hours, something else must be wrong
[11:11] <kelbizzle> No...
[11:11] <ThunderStruck> !info g++
[11:11] <ubotu> g++: The GNU C++ compiler. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB
[11:11] <tritium> calloc: yes, with wapsupplicant, as I've said
[11:11] <calloc> tritium,  is it not native to dapper?
[11:11] <Usul> Ok im doing the update now
[11:11] <Warbo> rubso: Run this in a terminal "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:11] <ThunderStruck> DerDracle: they are fine but i dont use g++ anymore thank goodness
[11:12] <DerDracle> ThunderStruck, I seem to have been able to compile binaries with gcj-4.1, and link them with g++4.0 binaries.
[11:12] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: after running sudo apt-get update did you get errors?
[11:12] <DerDracle> ThunderStruck, And it produced a working program.
[11:12] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck: No, No errors,
[11:12] <tritium> !wireless > calloc
[11:12] <Warbo> dxdemetriou: I am pretty sure XEN is scheduled for Edgy, don't know if it will make it's way into Dapper
[11:12] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: good now do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:12] <tritium> calloc: native?
[11:12] <DerDracle> ThunderStruck, What are you using instead?
[11:12] <tritium> qwertybob: what do you mean?
[11:12] <ThunderStruck> i dont write in C++
[11:12] <qwertybob> tritium: nvidia-kernel-common is installed is that correct?
[11:12] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck:Done
[11:12] <advant_> phunkalicious :  I tried commenting out everything then nothing work. It seems network manager is trying to use wlan0, where my wireless card is defined by eth1
[11:12] <ThunderStruck> i left C++ for C and python ;)
[11:12] <Masher> how can i intall stuff i download from sites?
[11:13] <DerDracle> ThunderStruck, Hm, I'd prefer not to as well :0
[11:13] <Masher> i know im noob an stuff
[11:13] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: now install it
[11:13] <calloc> tritium, is it not built in to dapper??, im on 5.10 should I upgrade to dapper first do you think?
[11:13] <Masher> plz tell me anywayz
[11:13] <phunkalicious> advant_ did you leave lo commented in?
[11:13] <ThunderStruck> Masher: what type of file?
[11:13] <Warbo> Masher: What did you download? An RPM, a shell script, source code, a Deb? We need more info
[11:13] <qwertybob> tritium: i mean i have same api mismatch error trying to install nvidia
[11:13] <advant_> phunkalicious :  yeah...
[11:13] <tritium> qwertybob: not necessary.  You just need nvidia-glx
[11:13] <gatekeeper> Masher: with your package manager
[11:13] <tritium> qwertybob: what did you do, build your own?
[11:13] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck:Thank you.
[11:13] <DerDracle> ThunderStruck, I'd prefer C/Ruby here ;) But Python is quite nice. Unfortunately C++ is still widely used. Well this, sucks :p
[11:13] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: yw
[11:13] <Usul> Ok some repositories are not responding but most are
[11:14] <Masher> all you: it was a game
[11:14] <phunkalicious> hmm...i don't know then, sorry.  that is what it says to do :(
[11:14] <tritium> calloc: not built it, you need to install the package.  Please read the URLs I've had ubotu send you
[11:14] <advant_> phunkalicious :  can I tell network-manager to use eht1 instead of wlan0 ? or do I need to rename eht1 to wlan0 ?
[11:14] <Masher> unpacked it an stuff
[11:14] <Warbo> Masher: What does the filename end in?
[11:14] <qwertybob> tritium: ive reinstalled glx, enabled it, went to xorg.cong changed nv to nvidia
[11:14] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck:I'm Curious...Do you do this because you enjoy it. Or because someone is paying you too.
[11:14] <ThunderStruck> i enjoy it
[11:14] <phunkalicious> maybe you can try it? it worked for me just commenting that stuff out :(
[11:14] <qwertybob> still same error
[11:14] <tritium> qwertybob: what version of nvidia-glx do you have installed?
[11:14] <Masher> *.sh *.py(lots) and *.txt
[11:14] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: we dont get payed to help people
[11:14] <skavenge> nobody gets paid here for this trust me
[11:14] <tritium> Not even us ops get paid, kelbizzle
[11:14] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck:Wow you guys are the $hi#
[11:15] <qwertybob> trilium: 8762
[11:15] <qwertybob> tritium: 8762
[11:15] <polpak> I got paid once.... 10 bucks on paypal for helping someone either in here or in #python
[11:15] <Warbo> Masher: "sh filename.sh" will run the sh files, "python filename.py" will run the python ones, text can't be executed (unless it is a script, which is what sh files are)
[11:15] <tritium> qwertybob: that matches, yes?
[11:15] <polpak> he said it was for beer money
[11:15] <kelbizzle> You guys are great.
[11:15] <kelbizzle> now to get qtracker working in gaim.
[11:15] <BioGeek> Hi everybody. My /dev/hda1 keeps filling up mysteriously to 100%. I deleted close to 1Gb half an hour ago, and it's already full again.
[11:15] <kelbizzle> I mean wine
[11:15] <kelbizzle> I'll stick around.
[11:15] <Masher> warbo: in noob termz plz
[11:15] <qwertybob> tritium: the api error says nvidia kernel module is 7174
[11:15] <Warbo> Masher: Run whichever looks appropriate (maybe "install.sh" or something like that)
[11:16] <kelbizzle>  /away chillin like a villian
[11:16] <enyc> BioGeek: use df to help you...
[11:16] <enyc> BioGeek: ?what is /dev/hda1 mounted as?
[11:16] <Dark_Omen123> hey does anybody know if there is a way to change your monitor settings for ubuntu when running the live cd, cause mine is all massive and pixelated, and i had a similar problem when running suse that i changed when installing to a lower setting which worked
[11:16] <Masher> warbo: ok thanks
[11:16] <yipe> ugh, I screwed around and now that command has scrolled away too far for me to get it
[11:16] <Warbo> Masher: In a terminal type "sh filename.sh" to run a file called "filename.sh" and "python filename.py" will run a file called "filename.py"
[11:16] <enyc> BioGeek: (see 'cat /proc/mounts')
[11:16] <BioGeek> I did, and 'sudo du -ks * | sort -n' to find the directories that were filling up, but I still haven't found the culprit :(
[11:17] <qwertybob> tritium: i dont know where the nvidia kernel module is
[11:17] <yipe> what is the command to make a fresh initrd when compiling a new kernel again?
[11:17] <enyc> BioGeek: what is /dev/hda1 anyway in your case??
[11:17] <enyc> BioGeek: monted where
[11:17] <tritium> qwertybob: you don't even need nvidia-kernel-common
[11:17] <Warbo> rubso: You haven't replied. Do you have that text file open yet?
[11:17] <skavenge> Regardless of video format or what player im playing it in, my videos wash out white sporadically and randomly during an X session .. a restart of X fixes this, anyone have any ideas to why or how i can fix this? its quite annoying ..
[11:17] <tritium> qwertybob: what nvidia packages do you have installed?
[11:17] <qwertybob> tritium: if glx is 8762 where is the 7174 coming from?
[11:17] <rubso> Warbo: xorg.conf?
[11:17] <Warbo> rubso: Yes
[11:17] <tritium> qwertybob: I'm trying to ascertain that
[11:17] <rubso> Warbo: i've added - Option "Standby"  "20" i don't know if it works or not.
[11:18] <BioGeek> enyc: It gives '/dev/hda1 / ext3 rw 0 0
[11:18] <BioGeek> '
[11:18] <Warbo> rubso: OK, I was going to suggest in the Monitor section to put: Option          "DPMS"
[11:18] <BioGeek> enyc: and '/dev/hda1 /dev/.static/dev ext3 rw 0 0'
[11:18] <Masher> warbo: it isnt working properly, i say run or run in terminal and nothing-nearly nothing happens
[11:18] <qwertybob> tritium: thanks, glx,restricted -26, smartdimmer, xserver for nv, nvidia-kernel-common
[11:18] <Masher> with the sh file that is
[11:18] <Warbo> !cli
[11:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:18] <rubso> Warbo: yeah "DPMS" was there, but i've added the Option Standby, i'll talk to you later if it works :) thanks anyway
[11:19] <teimu> hi ubuntu. why is it, when i make a new user with useradd, that user is unable to successfully login to gnome. well, actually, i know why. its because all the .[something]  directories like .gnome and such arent created. is there a utility to automate the creation of those files
[11:19] <Warbo> Masher: Read that to do with navigating in a shell
[11:19] <BioGeek> enyc: and /dev/hda1 is like my hard drive, I suppose
[11:19] <james875> i am trying to install xubuntu on my machine, i did a CD check with no errors and when i press the install button it freezes up is there a way to install it another way? this is an older machine? the cursor moves but the install window is grey and the cd spins and spins
[11:19] <tritium> qwertybob: please remove nvidia-kernel-common, and make sure you only have nvidia-glx
[11:19] <Masher> warbo: aye sit
[11:19] <Masher> sir*
[11:19] <Warbo> james875: Maybe alternate CD (text-based)
[11:19] <Heretician> backspace ftw teimu
[11:19] <sproingie> oh man xgl is such fun
[11:19] <james875> any link warbo?
[11:19] <sproingie> yay gratuitous eye candy
[11:20] <qwertybob> tritium: ok thanks, ill try that, its a fresh install , all i did was upgrade , then install glx
[11:20] <Warbo> !alternate
[11:20] <enyc> BioGeek: did you use default ubuntu partitioning?
[11:20] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[11:20] <SanketMedhi> sproingie: wait till you see the side-effects :P
[11:20] <BioGeek> enyc: yes
[11:20] <Warbo> AA! No link
[11:20] <teimu> Heretician, yea yea. that only came to mind after i thought "enter ftw" =)
[11:20] <james875> where do i get the alternate cd?
[11:20] <james875> for xubuntu
[11:20] <tritium> qwertybob: this is not normal...
[11:20] <Heretician> Is it much harder, ubotu?
[11:20] <sproingie> i've been using unix for like 15 years and linux since '94 and i've never had this much fun with it
[11:20] <skavenge> !ubotu
[11:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:20] <james875> ohh i see it
[11:20] <Dark_Omen123> hey does anybody know if there is a way to change your monitor settings for ubuntu when running the live cd, cause mine is all massive and pixelated, and i had a similar problem when running suse that i changed when installing to a lower setting which worked (but i dont know if there is anyway to do that as an option when running the cd)
[11:20] <gatekeeper> james875: you using a livecd?
[11:20] <james875> thanks ill try that
[11:20] <Heretician> oh haha
[11:20] <sproingie> my computer is fun again.  it's amazing.
[11:20] <Heretician> thanks for that skavenge
[11:20] <skavenge> np ;)
[11:21] <qwertybob> tritium: removing nvidia-common removes restricted-26 , modules-386, and glx
[11:21] <james875> yeah i am
[11:21] <sproingie> SanketMedhi: side effects?
[11:21] <unstablesob> Dark_Omen123: check the System->Preferences->Resolution
[11:21] <qwertybob> tritium: i guess i can reinstall those
[11:21] <sproingie> SanketMedhi: aside from me getting dizzy when i discovered the spinning workspaces...
[11:21] <Warbo> I have been trying to file a bug on nvidia-glx, but it is not in Launchpad. Anyone know why?
[11:22] <Dark_Omen123> i can't get into that, when I run the live cd it works but everything is really big and i cant navigate to it
[11:22] <enyc> BioGeek: kk ...
[11:22] <enyc> BioGeek: Id try this:-
[11:22] <enyc> BioGeek: "sudo watch --differences=cumulative -n1 du -ks /\*"
[11:22] <enyc> erm
[11:22] <enyc> BioGeek: "sudo watch --differences=cumulative -n30 du -ks /\*"
[11:22] <SanketMedhi> sproingie: no, when you uninstall XGL, you will see
[11:22] <andrivid> Hi. Is the 64-bit cd of Ubuntu comptiable with IA64?
[11:22] <tritium> qwertybob: you've seen the wiki page for a normal nvidia install, right?
[11:22] <qwertybob> tritium: now if i want to install restricted modules -26 , it wants to install nvidia-common again
[11:22] <kelbizzle> ThunderStrike: Is it possible to install Gaim 2.0.0beta3?
[11:22] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, thanks in advance.
[11:22] <enyc> BioGeek: this mwill show every 30sec the sizes that have chonged of files/dirs in the root (/)
[11:23] <unstablesob> Dark_Omen123: try ctrl+alt+Key_Pad_Minus a couple times, see if that helps
[11:23] <enyc> BioGeek: you could try this inside /var or /usr  etc. as you discover where the growing-data is
[11:23] <qwertybob> tritium: ive installed nvidia dozens of times , that why im here, its borked
[11:23] <ThunderStruck> kelbizzle: not from repos im sure ther eis a .deb out there somewhere but i dont remember where
[11:23] <enyc> BioGeek: if its all growing of its own accord..... you should do little-else and watch the space usage crawl up ;-) then you should be ablo to find  (whatever)
[11:23] <BioGeek> enyc: Nice trick :-)
[11:23] <salah> what can I use to make a DVD with MPG files?
[11:23] <qwertybob> !nvidia
[11:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:24] <tritium> qwertybob: not sure what's going on at the moment...
[11:24] <kelbizzle> ThunderStruck: Alright I'll tyr and find it.
[11:24] <qwertybob> thats ok
[11:24] <pequatre> hi. I've opened a session on PC1, and now i'm on PC2 (same LAN) and i'd want to redirect the displaying of my session from PC1 to PC2 (the whole stuff: gdm+ opened applications). Is it possible with ssh ? if not, is it possible with Freenx or such ? (it has to be the same session, not opening a new one). Thx.
[11:24] <aphesz> hi, is there any other way for me to install ubuntu directly w/o going thru the livecd interface first?
[11:24] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, I'll report back in say half an hour if I've found something.
[11:24] <enyc> BioGeek: Notice /\*  which becomes /usr/\*  etc....
[11:24] <LjL> aphesz: use the Alternate CD
[11:24] <Heretician> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187177 - would this work if my Xserver screws up during the real installation of Ubuntu?
[11:24] <seamus_ie> does anyone know if it's possible to create a ssh tunnel automatically when an app tries to connect to a particular port?
[11:24] <qwertybob> tritium: installing nvidia glx installs -23 versions , i just noticed
[11:24] <gatekeeper> james875: as someone already suggested use the alt CD, another possibility to install a basic server then use the cli to install XFce desktop (using your package manager), might also be a good idea to do the CD self check to make it has burnt ok, and possible badblocks on your HDD if all else fails
[11:25] <aphesz> LjL: it has that option?
[11:25] <enyc> BioGeek: the \* rather than *  means that the '*' will be converted to the list of actual files/arguments every time the 'watch' subcommand is ran (each 30secs) rather than always the same list
[11:25] <Heretician> !ubotu
[11:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:25] <godtvisken> Where should I keep kernels? I just got one using 'git'
[11:25] <qwertybob> tritium: so my problem is that glx is not installing the proper version
[11:25] <LjL> aphesz: the Alternate CD has *only* that option, since as opposed to the Desktop CD it has *not* "Live" functionality at all, but only the good old text-mode installer.
[11:25] <qwertybob> tritium: looks like the package system is broke or something
[11:25] <enyc> BioGeek: the --differences=cumulative may help you 'see' which values have changed... but will also muck-up if new/old files come/go
[11:26] <tritium> qwertybob: I'll look into it, but I can't do much more right now, sorry...
[11:26] <enyc> BioGeek: how big is the HDD anyway?
[11:26] <BioGeek> enyc: didn't knew that, I'll realy nead to brush up on my shell coding skils )
[11:26] <qwertybob> thanks anyway
[11:26] <aphesz> LjL: ahh. thanks alot mate. gonna try that now :D
[11:26] <BioGeek> enyc: 18 Gb, If I'm not mistakne
[11:26] <qwertybob> tritium: if i go to kernel -23 im ok i think , because thats what glx will install
[11:27] <enyc> BioGeek: which is fine for running ubuntu.... depends what data you add of courle
[11:28] <tritium> qwertybob: ok, perhaps that's a good interim plan
[11:28] <Warbo> Does anyone know the syntax for nautilus's default zoom level in gconf-editor?
[11:29] <BioGeek> This morning my HDD was still ca. 45% free. Today I only loaded some multimedia codecs to play the di.fm lifestream, so probably there I've done something wrong.
[11:29] <enyc> BioGeek: heh
[11:29] <enyc> BioGeek: you should learn to use pastebin and show people your  du -ks  'es
[11:30] <godtvisken> Where should I keep kernel directories? I just got one using 'git'
[11:30] <ccc> hi there, i am trying to setup a conexant adsl usb modem in linux. i have gotten as far as getting the driver installed and when i plug the adsl cable in, the LNK light stops flashing. the problem that im having is bringing up the connection. ive entered my vpi/vci settings however when i do 'ppp call isp' it doesnt get to the point of authenticating. Any sugguestions?
[11:30] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[11:30] <Warbo> godtvisken: /usr/src
[11:31] <Warbo> godtvisken: modules and drivers and stuff will be put in /lib/modules when you install the kernel modules ("sudo make modules_install")
[11:31] <Cody> the ubuntu alternate cd froze while choosing country for my friend, any ideas?
[11:31] <compengi> is there any linux software for monitoring the fan speed and temperature of intel main boards?
[11:32] <Warbo> compengi: Gdesklets and Gkrellm give nice monitor applets. I'm not sure what commands they are frontends to though
[11:32] <kmilo> compengi, Hardware diagnostics with open source tools: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/27/206209
[11:33] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, posted first output of du -ks to pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18041
[11:33] <furrykef> Hi, I can't change my video mode for some reason. It's stuck at 1280x1024. If I try to change it to 1024x768, I go back to the login screen, but I'm still at 1280x1024.
[11:34] <Warbo> furrykef: Edit your xorg.conf file and get rid of the 1280x1024 entries
[11:34] <Warbo> furrykef: "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:35] <hangfire> furrymkef- I had the exact same thing happen, I took the drastic measure of doing a complete reinstall of ubuntu, and it was ok the next time
[11:35] <Dial_tone> I reinstalled about 3-4 times to fix problems I couldn't
[11:35] <furrykef> But why should I have to do that in the first place? Why doesn't System->Preferences->Screen Resolution work?
[11:36] <Warbo> furrykef: That tool is pretty dodgy. DO NOT reinstall though, just tell Xorg to stop using that resolution at all
[11:36] <kbrooks> I have an idea
[11:36] <kbrooks> wait
[11:36] <kbrooks> nm
[11:36] <enyc> BioGeek: please put  'df' 'du -ks /*' 'du -ks /usr/*' 'du -ks /var'   into a pastebin as above ;-)
[11:36] <enyc> Bio errr /var/*  even
[11:36] <Warbo> Wow, what a fantastic idea :)
[11:37] <furrykef> Yeah, I don't think a reinstall would change anything
[11:37] <furrykef> (Hardly a drastic measure for me, though, since I only installed it this morning)
[11:37] <si3g3> Someone think of a title for a satirical album
[11:37] <kbrooks> Warbo: okay
[11:37] <james875> is there any media player that works well steraming windows media player files in ubuntu?
[11:37] <tritium> si3g3: sounds offtopic to me...
[11:37] <kbrooks> hang on, Warbo
[11:37] <si3g3> Indeed. But it's a VERY important topic
[11:37] <Warbo> james875: Totem
[11:37] <furrykef> si3g3: "fsck you"? Nah, too obvious.
[11:37] <ryanakca> for postfix, "If you setup the firewall as I advised in the configure chapter, then your box is pretty blocked off from the outside. If not then you might have been an open relay for spammers, but hopefully not." - http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#test_fw         does that mean that if you don't have a firewall... you're a open relay?
[11:37] <james875> thanks ill check it out
[11:37] <si3g3> and no one suggests something good I feel Ubuntu will be shut down.
[11:38] <si3g3> FOR EVER>
[11:38] <paladinhugo> james875: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:38] <narfmaster> heh
[11:38] <Spec[x] > ryanakca: only if you have a mailserver running
[11:38] <james875> does totem intgrate with mozilla well?
[11:38] <kbrooks> the idea":  a interactive "tutorial"
[11:38] <hangfire> si3g3- howabout one more cd before we resort to online downloads
[11:38] <kbrooks> not in flash
[11:38] <tritium> si3g3: enough
[11:38] <kbrooks> i mean
[11:38] <Warbo> james875: Apparently the plugin is dodgy. MPlayer plugins have more luck usually
[11:38] <si3g3> Goddamn you people.
[11:38] <james875> ok thanks
[11:38] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, compiling information...
[11:38] <ryanakca> Spec[x] : what's the difference... firewall or no firewall?
[11:38] <Spec[x] > si3g3: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:39] <rubso> bye guys
[11:39] <alex-weej> anyone here have serious issues with i810 graphics on u606 (24-bit 1280x1024@60, e.g.). massive green noise line down the screen. goes away in 16 bit mode.
[11:39] <kbrooks> Spec[x] : the COC doesnt advocate swearing
[11:39] <rescue> can someone please help me on repairing grub
[11:39] <Warbo> kbrooks: I've been thinking of something like that, but I can do Flash movies anyway (I have tested them in Gnash and they are fine)
[11:39] <rescue> ?
[11:39] <Spec[x] > kbrooks: i never suggested it did
[11:39] <Warbo> !grub
[11:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:39] <rescue> I know, I've read all of that 10x
[11:39] <Heretician> !xserver
[11:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about xserver - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:39] <Heretician> newb
[11:39] <hangfire> james- totum hasnt worked for me for online videos, there is another KDE app I cant remember the name of
[11:39] <Warbo> kaffeine?
[11:39] <Spec[x] > ryanakca: you should have a firewall/iptables...unless you're behind a router, then you don't need one.
[11:40] <hangfire> easyubuntu used to have it, but they dont now
[11:40] <yggdrasil> how do i take a screenshot ?
[11:40] <rescue> Warbo: My problem persists beyond that wiki's help
[11:40] <calloc> How can I tell which version of ubuntu Im using??
[11:40] <ryanakca> Spec[x] : I'm behind a router.. with DMZ...
[11:40] <enyc> yggdrasil: press PrintScreen
[11:40] <Spec[x] > ryanakca: if your box is in the DMZ, then you're not quite 'behind the router', so you should set up a firewall
[11:40] <skavenge> yggdrasil: print screen , paste it in gimp or something
[11:40] <ccc> i need to get pppoe.so plugin loaded, or is this the same as rp-pppoe.so in /usr/lib/pppd/2.x.x/?
[11:40] <hangfire> applications>accesorys>take screenshot
[11:40] <yggdrasil> ahh cool
[11:40] <jrib> yggdrasil: PrntScrn button
[11:40] <Warbo> yggdrasil: Look in the Acessories menu, try your screenshot button or you can even use GIMP (file>aquire>screenshot)
[11:40] <yggdrasil> ok thanks
[11:40] <yggdrasil> hahah
[11:40] <yggdrasil> that worked nicely
[11:40] <kmilo> calloc, lsb_release
[11:40] <yggdrasil> tryign to show off my theme ;)
[11:40] <Spec[x] > !firewall
[11:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[11:40] <ryanakca> Spec[x] : and if I turn off DMZ and manually enter all the ports required?
[11:40] <jrib> calloc: lsb_release -a
[11:41] <enyc> BioGeek: waiting patiently ;-)
[11:41] <Spec[x] > ryanakca: then it's not so bad, and you don't quite need a firewall. If you're using that box as a mailserver, do be careful in setting it up to not allow relays from other networks
[11:41] <rescue> Can someone help me in repairing grub?
[11:41] <ryanakca> Spec[x] : kk
[11:41] <yggdrasil> thanks that works
[11:41] <rescue> plzplz
[11:41] <Spec[x] > rescue: there are many documented ways to rescue grub
[11:41] <Spec[x] > !grub
[11:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:41] <rescue> I've read those more than once
[11:41] <Warbo> rescue: I don't have a bootloader on my drive sorry, but I do know a little about GRUB
[11:41] <yggdrasil> is there some sort of website that s a pastebin for images ?
[11:42] <Spec[x] > what's the problem then?
[11:42] <Spec[x] > yggdrasil: imageshack
[11:42] <Warbo> yggdrasil: Erm....
[11:42] <Warbo> !pastebin
[11:42] <yggdrasil> thanks
[11:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:42] <ryanakca> rescue: just a sec... I know just what you need... Super Grub Boot Disk... You can google it yourself... or wait till I get you the link :)
[11:42] <Warbo> yggdrasil: There is a screenshot option :)
[11:42] <rescue> I cannot get grub to install. I've followed that wiki in detail.
[11:42] <BioGeek> enyc: waiting patiently here as well ;-)
[11:42] <jrib> yggdrasil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ can do images
[11:42] <XGas> Thanks for the help, it worked now, see ya around......
[11:42] <yggdrasil> cool
[11:42] <calloc> Im currently upgrading to dapper, anything to note on the upgrade/anything I should now before rebbot??
[11:42] <enyc> BioGeek: oh... I was waiting for you to pastebin new info... maybe I missed
[11:42] <blanky> hey guys, is there like, a firewall that comes running automatically/default with ubuntu, because I'm running a program and people can't connect
[11:43] <ThunderStruck> calloc: its stable (shouldnt have issues)
[11:43] <ccc> hello?? i need to get pppoe.so plugin loaded, or is this the same as rp-pppoe.so in /usr/lib/pppd/2.x.x/?
[11:43] <Spec[x] > !firewall
[11:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[11:43] <Warbo> blanky: IPTables. You can configure it with firestarter
[11:43] <skavenge> blanky: yes, iptables, install firestarter for a gui frontend
[11:43] <Spec[x] > blanky: ^^
[11:43] <rescue> Spec[x] : I booted using the ubuntu cd, did rescue, grub-install /dev/sda2, it said installed no errors, I reboot and I still get nothing
[11:43] <enyc> BioGeek: I didnt see anything after 'BioGeek> enyc: OK, compiling information...'...
[11:43] <salah> !burner
[11:43] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[11:43] <Damn_it> hi
[11:44] <ryanakca> rescue: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/
[11:44] <blanky> haha, thanks guys, but I didn't mean to ask if there was some type of firewall, rather, I'm having problems with my program, people can't connect, so I was wondering if ubuntu came with a firewall pre-installed that I'd have to configure to let people throguh
[11:44] <blanky> or if it's the program's problem
[11:44] <dron> rescue: grub-install /dev/sda
[11:44] <Damn_it> how do i disable ubuntu from going back to login after not being used for a couple of minutes?
[11:44] <Viper550> Hello
[11:44] <Spec[x] > rescue: You should run update-grub and then grub-install /dev/sda
[11:44] <Warbo> blanky: Exactly, it comes with IPTables, and you can open up anything with FireStarter
[11:44] <skavenge> blanky: yes, iptables is the firewall, and you need to configure it with firestarter, as stated
[11:44] <Spec[x] > rescue: by putting it in /dev/sda2 you're not putting it in the MBR
[11:44] <Spec[x] > rescue: you can do it this way, but be sure to flag that partition as bootable
[11:45] <Viper550> My custom implementation of Slab is coming along nicely: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slab
[11:45] <skavenge> blanky: it blocks all incoming by default hence your issue
[11:45] <enyc> BioGeek: ????? you still there??
[11:45] <BioGeek> enyc: I mean, I'm waiting FOR MY PC to compile the information you requested, but s/he is taking a while.
[11:45] <Spec[x] > rescue: and that partition better contain /boot
[11:45] <enyc> BioGeek: aah ok ;-)
[11:45] <blanky> ohh okay thanks guys i love you all
[11:45] <BioGeek> enyc: sorry for the misunderstanding
[11:45] <enyc> BioGeek: nm ;-)
[11:45] <ccc> could somebody please help with this:
[11:45] <Warbo> BioGeek: Wow, not only does your computer have a sex, but it has TWO :)
[11:45] <rescue> Spec[x]  ok trying that
[11:45] <ccc> pppd: /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.4b1/pppOE: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:45] <ccc> pppd: Couldn't load plugin pppOE
[11:45] <morrolan> Can anyone tell me what would happen if I renamed /etc for about 30 seconds?
[11:46] <enyc> morrolan: all sorts wouldnt find configs ;-)
[11:46] <Spec[x] > morrolan: i would suggest not doing that in a live environment
[11:46] <enyc> morrolan: depenhds whats running/how.... ;-)
[11:46] <Damn_it> how do i disable ubuntu from going back to login after not being used for a couple of minutes?im a super noob
[11:46] <rescue> Spec[x]  That got it, thank you oh so much :)
[11:46] <enyc> Damn_it: that shouldnt happen anyway ;-).... but maybe you mean  it gous to 'locked screen' ?
[11:46] <Spec[x] > rescue: no problem
[11:46] <BioGeek> Warbo: while waiting so long as now for some information, I sometimes seriously doubt the computer isn't female...
[11:46] <ccc> hi there, i am trying to setup a conexant adsl usb modem in linux. i have gotten as far as getting the driver installed and when i plug the adsl cable in, the LNK light stops flashing. the problem that im having is bringing up the connection. ive entered my vpi/vci settings however when i do 'ppp call isp' it doesnt get to the point of authenticating. Any sugguestions?
[11:46] <Warbo> Damn_it: What do you mean?
[11:46] <rescue> Spec[x]  and to think I've been fighting with this problem for over an hour
[11:46] <Spec[x] > rescue: i've spent waaaay more than an hour working with grub ^.^
[11:47] <rescue> Spec[x]  I learned from this :)
[11:47] <enyc> BioGeek: odd. ... like you have millions of tiny files somewhere ;-)
[11:47] <morrolan> That's what I thought.
[11:47] <blanky> what would be the iptables command to open up port 27960
[11:47] <BlattSpinat> hi
[11:47] <Jeruvy> ccc what does ifconfig show?
[11:47] <morrolan> Weird idea, but I was going to subversion my /etc directory
[11:47] <Warbo> blanky: "firestarter" I think :)
[11:47] <BlattSpinat> is there a german channel for debian and or ubuntu?
[11:47] <Spec[x] > morrolan: i've heard of that being done before
[11:47] <ccc> Jeruvy: it does not authenticate so it wouldnt bring up anything extra in ifconfig, im one step behind that
[11:47] <Flannel> !de
[11:47] <BioGeek> enyc: yes, that's my thougth also...
[11:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:47] <blanky> Warbo, yeah I tried firestarter, but it seems like it's starting it's own firewall? or does it also use iptables
[11:48] <Spec[x] > blanky: it uses iptables
[11:48] <BlattSpinat> !de
[11:48] <Warbo> blanky: It configures IPTables
[11:48] <morrolan> I suppose It would be better if I wrote a script to create a copy of /etc and then subversioned that.
[11:48] <Damn_it> I mean how do make it go on screen saver, or just sit here when not it use? cuz when i leave it on it goes back to the login screen and upon login all programs are closed down. My screen saver doesn't work for some reason.
[11:48] <enyc> BioGeek: let it finish its work ;-)..... ill check if values look sane.....
[11:48] <blanky> ah thanks guys, thanks for the patience :)
[11:48] <Warbo> blanky: Once you make changes in Firestarter you don't need to run it anymore, as IPTables is running anyway
[11:48] <Jeruvy> ccc: I'm not very familier with PPPoE type neg. sorry
[11:48] <enyc> Damn_it: I seee. ... so running the screensaver crashes things
[11:49] <metasj> ahhhhh, running ubuntu for the first time.
[11:49] <enyc> metasj: meep ;-)
[11:49] <Warbo> Damn_it: Try selecting a simple 2D screensaver (or just "blank screen")
[11:49] <Spec[x] > metasj: how'd you hear of it?
[11:49] <BlattSpinat> thx
[11:49] <morrolan> Warbo: One of my enxt questions was: How do I make firestarter start as root (sudo) - but you say that iptables is always running so therefore I don't need to?
[11:49] <blanky> Warbo, ah okay, so once I add the rule to allow the service for the certain port for everyone, I just 'accept policy', and close firestarter and it works?
[11:49] <Damn_it> yes. i go to System> Screen Saver ..  then it crashes
[11:49] <toph3r> evening!
[11:49] <enyc> metasj: HELO to the land of 18.0.0.0/8 over-there ;-)
[11:49] <ccc> Jeruvy: where can i find pppoe.so ?
[11:49] <BioGeek> enyc: I have the output of 'df' and 'du -ks /*' already, the rest is on its way...
[11:49] <toph3r> any ntp-server experts available?
[11:49] <blanky> Warbo, ?
[11:50] <enyc> BioGeek: indeeed... lit it finish ;-)
[11:50] <toph3r> when i synch against my ntp-server I'm told that 'no available servers found..#
[11:50] <Warbo> morrolan: Firestarter may need to be run with gksudo (the menu entry should sort that out), but once you have configured IPTables you don't need to start Firestarter at login or anything
[11:50] <enyc> deadman: meep
[11:50] <toph3r> yet, i never had a problem in debian sarge or ubuntu 5.10 ..
[11:50] <toph3r> any ideas?
[11:50] <Damn_it> im looking for a way so ubuntu just sits here and idle
[11:50] <Warbo> blanky: Yes
[11:50] <blanky> ah okay thanks Warbo
[11:50] <deadman> enyc: ?
[11:50] <Warbo> blanky: Or you can leave it open and have a cool glowing icon :)
[11:50] <blanky> hahaha
[11:51] <morrolan> Warbo: thanks for that, as I didn't particularly want to run it all the time, I just thought I had to!
[11:51] <enyc> deadman: I wonder if you are the 'deadman' I have seen before // talker-system....
[11:51] <BioGeek> enyc: for the last one, did you mean 'du -ks /var' or 'du -ks /var/*' ?
[11:51] <enyc> Damn_it: you could at least try truning off the screensaver
[11:51] <enyc> BioGeek: /var/*
[11:51] <deadman> enyc: no. I just chose this username then. Normally I am need_help or something
[11:51] <metasj> thx enyc
[11:51] <enyc> deadman: ok ;-)
[11:51] <enyc> metasj: is the MIT full of linux desktops? ;-)
[11:52] <Damn_it> enyc: i cant cuz when i click on screen saver i the whole OS crashes and im booted to the login screen.
[11:52] <Spec[x] > metasj: you work in the media lab?
[11:52] <enyc> Damn_it: well the X-server crashes.....
[11:52] <Warbo> I want to make Nautilus display icons at 150% zoom level. I set "zoom level" to 150 in the configuration editor but now they are 25%. What do I need to enter?
[11:52] <metasj> I'm in the OLPC offices atm
[11:52] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, here they are: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18045
[11:52] <metasj> lots of linux machines here
[11:52] <enyc> BioGeek: reading
[11:52] <Spec[x] > metasj: do you do anything for Negroponte perhaps?
[11:52] <ThunderStruck> Damn_it: please file a bug on it (or look for one already on it)
[11:53] <jimm> hello on my PC i have WinXP and Ubuntu.....i want Ubuntu to can read at windowsXP partition root how i can do that?
[11:53] <Spec[x] > Damn_it: bug filing can be done at: http://launchpad.net
[11:53] <metasj> mainly boards...  spec, after a fashion
[11:53] <salah> which burner application should I use for burning VCD?
[11:53] <BioGeek> enyc: take your time...
[11:53] <Spec[x] > metasj: I saw the dev board couple weeks ago, really cool
[11:53] <Flannel> !tell jimm about ntfs
[11:53] <gatekeeper> !ntfs
[11:53] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:53] <enyc> BioGeek: first you have 18gb approx...  i.e. 20,000,000 sort of disk inscluding the swapspace... what the HDD Mfrs will call a 20gb disk
[11:53] <Warbo> jimm: It is pretty easy to READ the partition, but very hard/unsafe to WRITE to it
[11:53] <Spec[x] > salah: i'd try k3b
[11:53] <Spec[x] > done with backups! see ya'll! :) keep up the good support.
[11:54] <gatekeeper> jimm: read ubotu ntfs entry above
[11:54] <Damn_it> i tryd installing compiz cuz i thought it was a video driver (royal mess up)... s that have nything to do wd t? how do i unistall compiz?
[11:54] <salah> Spec[x] , no, I get a error, telling me that the MPG files aren't MPG when they are
[11:54] <BioGeek> enyc: (What does Mfrs satnd for?)
[11:54] <dron> !cups
[11:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:54] <Warbo> Damn_it: Look for the package (either "compiz" or "compiz-gnome") and uninstall it
[11:54] <salah> Spec[x] , *every* other application is telling me that these files are MPG, k3b refuses that
[11:54] <Warbo> !synaptic
[11:55] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:55] <metasj> any recs for a good free typing tutor?
[11:55] <BioGeek> enyc: s/satnd/stand/
[11:55] <Viper550> BioGeek: F-word with mother in front of it...used as an adjective
[11:55] <Warbo> tuxtype
[11:55] <metasj> thx
[11:55] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, I see ;-)
[11:55] <crazy_penguin> night all!
[11:55] <Damn_it> Warbo: how do i that?
[11:55] <BioGeek> Viper550: Thanks, now of course it's obvious...
[11:56] <enyc> BioGeek: errrm it doesnt add-up.....
[11:56] <Warbo> !synaptic > Damn_it
[11:57] <BioGeek> enyc: there is more info on my disk than physiclly possible?
[11:58] <Viper550> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1256704#post1256704
[11:58] <enyc> BioGeek: The 'du' totals.... make-up to 5870159 gb
[11:58] <enyc> BioGeek: erm kb... about 5.5 gb
[11:58] <Warbo> Nobody can help with my Nautilus question then?
[11:58] <enyc> BioGeek: that doesnt make sense given 'df' shown 18gb partition FULL
[11:59] <duri> is there a channel for ubuntu-sparc ?
[11:59] <blanky> hey guys, I already created the rule/policy where I'm supposedly letting anyone connect to me via a certain port in firestarter, but it seems to not work, would the 'stop firewall' button in firestarter actually stop the firewall, eliminating the need for me to worry about this? Of course this is insecure, but to at least make sure that it's the firewall causing the problem and not something else
[11:59] <enyc> BioGeek: I've never seen that happen before!!!
[11:59] <Warbo> blanky: Are you using a router? You may need to forward ports
[11:59] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, so know I've succeed to dumbstruck the ubuntu wizards. How do we proceed?
[12:00] <enyc> BioGeek: I'd be tempted to boot Knoppix or ubuntu-live and 'sudo fsck /dev/hda1' to filesystem-check for bizarre problems
[12:00] <Damn_it> just curious is there a place where instead of repositories having files, there are media files and u just download them through synaptic?
[12:00] <enyc> BioGeek: erm
[12:00] <enyc> BioGeek: paste 'dmesg' into a pastebin ;-)
[12:00] <enyc> BioGeek: so I can see any kernel errors
[12:00] <skavenge> Damn_it: no, synaptic is just for repos