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Codyits quiet....12:07
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nixternalscroll down05:30
jbrouharddebating my webpages I see ;)05:31
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Burgundavianixternal: members skill lists are a nice, but I am not certain how pratical they are, due to the transitory nature of volunteers06:38
nixternali know..and the fact nobody has really provided feedback on it...im thinking the same thing06:39
adamant1988Feedback on what?06:44
Burgundaviaadamant1988: proposal to have competencies listed on the wiki06:45
adamant1988let me guess... mailing list?06:45
nixternalof course06:46
nixternalthe mailing list is where everything is worked out06:46
nixternalwell...that is where all my brainfarts go06:47
adamant1988gah, no wonder I'm so behind on stuff06:47
adamant1988I can't follow the mailing list...06:47
adamant1988Thats one area where having ADD really gets me.06:47
adamant1988It's not that I don't have the will to sit there and sift through 50 different emails about the same thing, I just don't have the attention span for it =\06:48
nixternallol06:50
adamant1988see you think I'm joking lol...06:51
nixternali know your not..you told me b4 about it....but the way you put it is funny06:52
adamant1988lol06:52
adamant1988the good news is that it makes me an excellent beta tester06:52
adamant1988I never stay on one program for too long and I almost always end up trying things that other people haven't.06:53
nixternalsee..now that was funny06:53
adamant1988ok... sure.06:54
nixternali think im at the point where i need some guidance06:54
adamant1988guidance on what?06:54
nixternali gotta go do 2 quick wiki tasks06:54
nixternalbbiaf06:54
adamant1988mmmmm... poki....06:55
troy_show goes progress in marketing land?06:57
adamant1988have you ever seen a chicken with it's head cut off?06:58
nixternalheh07:17
Burgundaviarofl07:18
=== nixternal starts up SpreadKubuntu campaign
=== adamant1988 starts us spread butter campaign
nixternalhaha07:22
nixternalneed to start up something07:22
adamant1988jenda informed me that they're going to try to keep new projects out of the loop until spread ubuntu or the magazine is up07:23
nixternali put out the "wiki page needs info" email over 24 hours ago, and i don't think there has been one hit on it07:23
adamant1988I'm placing my hope squarely on the magazine because I recently heard that spread ubuntu has been around since warty?07:23
nixternalso..i think i am going to do what i am going to do, and if they don't like it, well guess what?07:23
nixternaltoo bad so sad!!!07:23
Burgundavianot really07:24
Burgundaviathe idea has been around07:24
nixternalthis sitting around waiting is horrible07:24
Burgundaviaidea != implementation07:24
nixternalactually every idea we have has been around somewhere07:24
nixternalburg is exactly right07:24
adamant1988Yeah, my ideas for spread ubuntu are limited... it's jendas brain child from what I can gather07:24
adamant1988he's very passionate about it07:25
nixternalnothing but ideas, with nothing to show for them, but countless pages on the wiki with useless information07:25
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nixternalhybrid: don't you do desing stuff?07:53
nixternaldesign07:53
nixternalhaha07:53
adamant1988nixternal if you want my competancies i'll give them to you :)07:53
=== nixternal thinks i am going to nix that project
jendagood morning07:54
nixternalpeople will start using it as a resume..and we know that everyone lies on those as it is07:54
nixternalmornin' jenda07:54
adamant1988everybody lies nixternal07:54
nixternalyou wake up when im goin' to bed..you need to change your schedule around to fit mine ;)07:54
nixternaltrue adamant198807:54
adamant1988you should have expected that.07:54
nixternalsome worse then others too07:55
jendaadamant1988: I only said I'll be against new projects, because I'd like folks to focus on SU, UM and MRP.07:55
nixternalMRP?07:55
nixternalim lost there07:55
adamant1988must be a new one07:55
jendaMy word isn't all that heavy, though, so if the project is good, and the team wants it - it'll be there07:55
jendaMedia Relations Project07:55
nixternalahh07:55
nixternali knew it was something with pr07:55
adamant1988Is there any way we could get canonical to change the size and shape of the stickers they distribute to look more like... oh say... disks?07:56
nixternalno07:56
nixternalbut we could make them07:56
adamant1988I'd burn a crap load of Ubuntu CDs if they would look professional, stickers could help.07:56
nixternalactually adamant1988 you could create that as a brainstorming spec and pray someone is interested in it ;)07:56
nixternallightscribe if you want to do that07:57
nixternalstickers are garbage07:57
nixternalpretty soon they start peeling off and they can wreak havoc on a drive07:57
adamant1988can I even get lightscribe to work on a linux system?07:57
nixternalgood question07:57
hybridnixternal: i suck at web design07:57
nixternali dont' see why not...as the lightscribe supposedly acts as a printer07:58
nixternalthx hybrid, next?07:58
nixternal;)07:58
adamant1988I think i'm going to google that a bit more before I try investing $70 in an external light scriber07:58
BurgundaviaI don't think so07:58
nixternaljenda: i think i am going to fill in the blanks for the wiki, and then come next meeting possibly vote on them, or i can present them to the mailing list for yays/nays/and heresays ;)07:59
jendaOK07:59
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jendaI'll be rather busy today, expect me tomorrow for best results :)08:00
adamant1988yay freespire is out!08:00
nixternall8r jenda08:01
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Burgundaviahmm, mathew revell is a member of the freespire board08:05
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nixternalfreespire...anything with spire in it scares me08:23
adamant1988haha08:25
adamant1988if only I could have YOUR attitude... me I'm selfish.  As long as my needs as a user are met I'm happy08:25
nixternalmy needs will never be met08:28
nixternalthe only thing i am missing with Linux08:28
nixternalCAD08:28
nixternalotherwise i have everything08:28
nixternali think i need to set up a windows box just to have cad..im affraid that by not using it, im loosing it08:28
adamant1988there is a CAD system that novell has listed... but I don't suppose you'd use it08:29
nixternali would if it was decent08:30
nixternali hate novell with a passion...but08:30
adamant1988it's not their app08:30
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nixternalis it qt or gtk?08:31
adamant1988not sure I'll link you08:31
adamant1988http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/commercial.html08:34
adamant1988it's arcas08:34
adamant1988arcad08:34
Burgundaviagnomefiles lists a few cad programs08:35
Burgundaviathat arcad is neither gtk or qt08:36
Burgundaviamaybe java/swing or awt08:37
adamant1988god beagle is the best thing since swiss cheese.08:38
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nixternalg'nite10:47
jendanight11:27
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jendanixternal: ping11:58
jenda:)11:58
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adamant1988hello alll04:08
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nixternaljenda: pong?05:24
jendapling...05:25
jendabut I forgot what I wanted ;)05:25
nixternallol05:25
jendaAh, I got it :)05:25
nixternali was only 6 hours ago ;)05:25
jendaYou still want a mailing list?05:25
nixternalit rather05:25
nixternalyes jenda05:25
nixternalbut i got info back this morning about it05:25
nixternali think at least05:25
Rinchennix if you strike out let me know..I can host you one as a backup plan05:27
jendaRinchen: wuzzat?05:28
jendaah05:28
Rinchenand did you make member? I put a +1 into mako for you before I had to leave05:28
jendanixternal: ">05:28
jendaRequests for new lists should be sent to rt@admin.canonical.com"05:28
nixternalya i seen that05:28
jendanixternal: that's from Sounder, by silbs05:28
jendaAh OK.05:28
nixternalbut jdub replied saying no, the mailmain one is still the correct one05:28
nixternalconfusing ;)05:28
nixternalbut i am sending one to rt, you can count on that ;)05:29
Rinchenand Seveas is updating the CC so I see your status05:29
nixternalmy status?05:29
nixternallike a plane at o'hare, im in a "holding" formation05:29
Rinchensee  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda05:29
Rinchensays you are on hold05:29
nixternalas in, i have no clue what is going on05:29
nixternalheh, well monday morning, i am going for kubuntu membership if it doesn't come through ;)05:30
nixternalby then05:30
Rinchen:-)05:30
nixternalim really just interested in getting Chicago official truthfully05:31
nixternalthe personal membership would be an added bonus05:31
jendaI doubt mako will even think of declining.05:32
nixternalRinchen: did that meeting make our teams "Official"?05:32
nixternaljenda, not to be arrogant, but me either ;)05:33
Rinchenyes05:33
nixternalwell then..i am happy05:33
=== nixternal emails rt to see if he can get even happier!!!
=== Rinchen smiles.
=== jenda is especially excited abotu the Kurdish team.
nixternalya, the kurdish team has been busy thats for sure05:33
jendaHey, none of you interested in ordering ubuntu case stickers from me? :)05:36
jendaYou can give out/resell in your area.05:36
=== nixternal is making some too cuz jenda did ;)
nixternali bought a case badge sticker kit from directron.com and i am going to try them out05:37
MenZaI have a ton.05:38
MenZaBut I don't have time to send them out :(05:38
MenZaI have like.. 200 case stickers.05:38
MenZaProfessional prints.05:38
MenZaBut I have not the time, nor the money to ship 'em out.05:38
jendahmm05:38
MenZajenda: if you pay me a few bucks, I'll send you a huge stack for you to distribute ;P05:39
MenZaSometime.05:39
MenZainterested?05:40
jendaI'll have a batch of 1000 soon to come from the shop...05:40
MenZaoh.05:41
jendabut tell me - what's the price and the number?05:41
MenZaI have no idea.05:41
MenZaI have like 200 or so.05:41
MenZaA few bucks, $20 max.05:41
MenZaActually05:41
MenZaGive me a flickr account and they're yours.05:41
MenZa$25.05:41
MenZa;)05:41
MenZaI could probably get you some more.05:41
jendaI'd be able to pay you as soon as the first paypal payments come in.05:41
jendaBut...05:42
jendaNo, actually - no buts. The price is fair :)05:42
MenZaYou have a deal.05:42
MenZaI'm gonna start checking what the postage is later today.05:42
jendaUnless they say designed for :)05:42
jendatell me they don't...05:42
MenZaThey say 'Powered by Ubuntu/Edubuntu/Kubuntu'05:42
jendaOh great :)05:42
jendaHow many of each are there?05:43
MenZa(well seperately. Powered by /either/)05:43
MenZaLeast Edu, then Ku and mostly Ubuntu.05:43
MenZaNot entirely sure.05:43
MenZaI print in loose numbers--23 then, 100 then, a few more then and so.05:43
jendaOK - I'll tell you as soon as I have enough cash on paypal and send it from there, since I can't withdraw pp funds here :-D05:43
jendaMenZa: I'm in the Czech Republic, not sure how much the postage is, but I doubt it'll be over $305:44
jendaMenZa: did you say $20 or $25? :)05:44
jendaThe great thing is that I'll be able to show them to my printer and ask for higher quality if yours are better.05:45
MenZaflickr account, $25 for a year ;)05:45
MenZajenda: lol05:45
MenZaMine are moderate-high quality.05:45
jendadamn you ;)05:45
jendaso are mine.05:45
MenZaScan it?05:45
jendaNo, i made them.05:46
jendahttp://www.tikal26.net/ubuntu/Samolepka-EN.png05:47
jendahttp://www.tikal26.net/ubuntu/Samolepka-NC.png05:47
jendaFrom svgs given by... some guy on the forum :)05:47
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jendaMenZa: will we be able to solve that by sending $25 to your paypal? It seems you need to reg on flickr yourself.05:49
MenZajenda: hmm.. could you do that for me? Please :)?05:49
MenZaPayPal has all these stupid fees: (05:50
jendahmm, not sure - you need a yahoo account - shall I make one for it?05:50
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MenZaSure, if you want to.05:50
jenda(the fee would be... $0.30 + 3.6% = $1.20... OK)05:51
jendaMenZa: shall I use your name etc?05:51
MenZaPlease, I'm okay with that.05:51
jenda... and what is your name? :)05:52
jendacan't recognise you in LP05:52
MenZaLasse Havelund05:52
MenZaLP?05:53
jendalaunchpad05:53
jendaOK05:53
jendaU.S.?05:53
MenZaDenmark :)05:53
MenZaVifdam 6105:53
MenZa6000 Kolding05:53
MenZaDenmark05:53
MenZaIs my full address05:53
MenZaI'm not that fuzzy about it.05:53
jendaAh, denmark, that'll make the shipping easier :)05:54
MenZa(everyone, /clear)05:54
MenZajenda: how so?05:54
MenZaYour location?05:54
jenda/cheaper05:54
jendaCzech Republic05:54
MenZaOh cool05:54
MenZabrb05:56
jendaOMG, yahoo is so... inasive. the password is MenZa, and the security question is "what is your pet" - the answer is jenda.05:56
jendaMenZa: what's the postcode to there?05:56
jenda(I entered my birthdate, so that it reminds you every year... :-D)05:57
MenZajenda: ..postcode :S?05:57
MenZaPostalcode? It's 600005:58
MenZaCity's Kolding05:58
jendaAh, OK :05:58
jenda:)05:58
jendaemail?05:59
jenda(careful about spam - the chan is logged)05:59
MenZajenda: let's take it back here06:22
jendayep06:23
MenZaso, can I have that e-mail :D?06:23
MenZaI'll send them to Gunnzi for free then ^^06:23
jendahehe :)06:24
jendajust a sec...06:24
jendahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewMemberHowto06:24
jendaThere, MenZa06:24
nixternaljenda: need an opinion here...i don't want to make anyone mad...jdub replied to the sounder post saying mailman@lists, when jane said rt@..canonical06:25
nixternalwhich one would you do?06:25
nixternalwrong question06:25
nixternalwould you still send to rt?06:25
jendaDo rt, because you already did mailman06:25
jendaI would. I'm very, very persistant ;)06:26
=== nixternal points to jenda if a flame mail comes back ;)
MenZajenda: too much hassle :(06:26
nixternallol06:26
jendanixternal: it's a deal.06:26
jendaDid you say you're getting stickers printed?06:27
nixternaldone deal06:30
nixternalim going to probably print some today06:30
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jendanixternal: is that home-printing?06:33
nixternalright now it is06:33
nixternalYour ticket has been06:33
nixternalassigned an ID of [rt.admin.canonical.com #14149] .06:33
nixternali like rt for sure!!!06:34
nixternalthe first 'mailing list' response i have seen ;)06:34
MenZaOne problem, jenda.06:37
MenZaI don't have anything to ship it in :(06:37
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MenZaAh! a chocolate box!06:38
MenZaI just have to get my brother to eat his chocolate.06:38
MenZaOr do it for him.06:38
jendaHaha :)06:38
jendaGo go go.06:38
jendaMenZa: I repeat - I'll only be able to pay once I get my money for the orders, and only through paypal... lemme see if flickr accepts that.06:39
MenZajenda: yeah :(06:50
MenZaI hope flickr does.06:50
jendaMenZa: email?06:51
MenZae-mail or paypal?06:51
jendaemail06:51
MenZa@ (refer to before).org06:51
MenZamenza@menza.org, if you're kachung.06:52
jendaah :)06:52
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jendaMenZa: lasse.havelund@yahoo.com, password Ubuntu06:54
MenZawtf06:54
jendaMenZa: it's your yahoo account. confirmation email sent.06:55
jendabut... I don't get it.06:56
MenZaAnd what would I use this for :S?06:56
jendaWhere does flickr ask for the money?06:56
MenZaI have absolutely no idea, but they do.06:56
jendaMenZa: you need that to sign up to filckr06:56
MenZaPerhaps in the very end.06:56
MenZajenda: but..06:56
MenZaI have a flickr!06:56
MenZamenza06:56
jendadamn :)06:56
MenZa:D06:56
MenZahttp://www.flickr.com/photos/menza06:56
jendawtf, I don't understand what you want.06:56
MenZaGet an account06:56
jendawhat is that?06:56
MenZaClick my account06:56
MenZaAnd select "Buy this user a flickr account"06:57
jendaAh06:57
nixternallol06:57
MenZaAh06:57
nixternalbuy me one too06:57
nixternalhahahhaha06:57
MenZaThat's a pro account ;)06:57
MenZaflickr, itself, is free.06:57
MenZaThe pro account is not :D06:57
nixternali need to get me a pro account as well06:57
MenZajenda: ^^06:58
jendagah06:58
jendaOK, got it.07:00
jendaI'll do it as soon as enough money comes in.07:00
MenZajenda: I really want it now... any chance you could paypal me $25 then? I have $60 or so on my pp now. So, just paypal them. menza@menza.org.07:01
jendawell that's what I was suggesting the whole time! :-D07:02
MenZalol07:02
MenZaWell, alright then, let's do that.07:02
MenZaI just paid ;D!07:02
jendahehe ;)07:03
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jendaMenZa: ping?09:13
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MenZajenda: pong09:58
jendaWould you have any pics of the stickers you are shipping me?10:01
MenZaI can take some.10:02
MenZaJust a second.10:02
Klaidasjenda, you ordered MenZa's stickers? :)10:02
MenZaKlaidas: all of them.10:02
MenZaI don't have time to distribute them myself.10:02
=== Klaidas has some pictures of those too :)
jendaKlaidas: Have at me :)10:03
jendaI'm sending out my own batch, too, Klaidas.10:03
Klaidaswait, I'll serach for them and upload :)10:03
jendagreat :)10:03
Klaidashttp://stickers.stuff.klaidas.tinkle.lt/DSC03253.JPG10:06
Klaidasother few photos are blurry (didn't focus my camera right)10:08
MenZajenda: watch my flickr, they're uploading now.-10:09
MenZa<3 flickr10:09
MenZaall thanks to you ^^10:09
KlaidasMenZa, what's the url?10:09
MenZaKlaidas: flickr dot com / photos / menza10:09
MenZa:p10:09
MenZaall up10:12
MenZaExcuse the quality.10:12
=== MenZa takes more
jendathanks10:13
jendaI hope I'm able to sell those.10:13
MenZathey're that bad D:?10:14
jendaLemme think... $25/300 = $0.10 apiece...10:14
jendahaha, not at all :)10:14
jendaI'ts just difficult to explain the fact that i have two sets like that10:14
jenda:)10:14
MenZajenda: it's a loose number. Could be 294, 299 or something.10:14
jendaOK, good enough10:15
MenZaLike, I have them in sheets of six. If one sticker is missing on one sheet, I don't count it.10:15
jendathe price is comparable to what I payed here.10:15
MenZaBut it's like 320 or something.10:15
jendahehe ;)10:15
jendano problem.10:15
MenZaYou'll get the next batch cheaper, if you want more.10:15
MenZaI did profit a bit on this, I won't profit much on the next, I'm sure.10:15
Klaidaswoah, you have a snake? :)10:16
MenZaYeah10:16
MenZaShe's cute, isn't she?10:16
Klaidasnice :)10:16
jendaMenZa: you profitted? on _me_? :)10:18
=== jenda sells them back at twice the price
MenZajenda: a bit.10:19
MenZa.. $25 (I needed that flickr D:)10:19
jenda:)10:19
MenZaNah, my boss gets some of it.10:19
jendaYou work in a printer, right?10:19
MenZaYeps10:19
jendaIn that case, you have warrant lifelong abuse by jenda.10:20
MenZaIf you ever need any printwork, here's my phone number: +45 6021 389010:20
MenZa;O10:20
jendaI think all of my prints go by you from now on :)10:20
MenZalol10:20
MenZaThat's cool.10:20
MenZaYou'll know what time it is at my place, call me whenever you find it fair to.10:21
MenZahttp://www.flickr.com/photos/menza/190249114/10:23
MenZajenda: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=190249114&size=l10:23
jendaI think i'll stick to the free means of communication :)10:25
jendanice, thanks10:25
jendacheck MarketingTeam/Shipping menza10:26
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MenZadoing.10:26
bethkotest10:26
MenZaI don't like yours, jenda :(10:26
jendahaha :)10:26
MenZaThey're...10:26
MenZaToo...10:27
MenZaI dunno.10:27
jendaBROWN10:27
nixternaltest?10:27
nixternallol10:27
jendanixternal: fail10:27
MenZaYes,10:27
MenZaBrown.10:27
nixternalhahaha10:27
MenZaToo brown.10:27
bethkocan you guys read this?10:27
nixternalim starvin'...jenda's buying lunch10:27
nixternalno bethko10:27
MenZaNo bethko10:27
nixternalgahaha10:27
MenZarofl nixternal10:27
bethkoim on icr from my phone.10:27
nixternalnice10:27
nixternalspeak louder please 10:27
MenZabethko: application?10:28
MenZaI'd like that.10:28
MenZajmirc?10:28
jenda-bethko- VERSION Blackened 1.7.1 NetBSD 2.1.0_STABLE :http://www.blackened.com/blackened/10:28
jendanice, NetBSD cell phone :-D10:28
MenZa:o10:28
bethkoim using terminal on my sidekick 210:29
MenZajenda: any chance you could send me a few of yours, to see what they look like physically?10:29
bethkothe shell is bsd10:29
jendaMenZa: you'd have to pay... or calculate me a few prices at your shop.10:30
jenda:)10:30
MenZajenda: I'll you off a few bucks next time then ^^10:30
MenZaput off*110:31
jendaTell me, how much would 1000 decent quality 2*3 cm stickers cost me?10:31
jendaI'll compare with the price here :)10:31
jendaA rough estimate or range is good enough.10:33
bethkoany ideas on making a flyer?10:33
bethkoi need to make up something that will explian what the heck an ubuntu is, and maybe what a cdrom is while im at it.10:35
bethkopeople are just plain stupid at times.10:35
bbrazilUbuntu - because computers are meant to be easy10:36
bethkoi was thinking of printing the desktop guide but thats way too much info and paper and my boss would shot my.10:37
ompaulbethko, not informed does not make people stupid10:37
bethkoumm... how much time do you spend at the fair?10:37
MenZajenda:10:38
MenZaHmm...10:38
MenZaI'm not sure.10:38
MenZaA bit, I think.10:38
jendaWell, if you figure it out, send me an email :)10:38
bethkoi been here 8 days10:39
bethkono internet access on the cumputers has driven me to desperated messures10:46
bethkoanyways, i have been slowly catching up on the emails from the marketing list.10:47
bethkoi like the idea of printing sticckers.10:48
jendaIt's being done ;)10:49
bethkoi like stickers in general. buttons tend to be a bit better for long term exposer10:50
bethkowhat i really love is shirts, you dont have to keep track of it, your already wearing it!10:51
jendaI'd love to get that far - but it doesn't look realistic ATM. It would be a large investment.10:53
bethkoif we could make a big design that is full color people could buy iron on paper and print them themselves10:57
bbrazilactually with some places the initial cost of tshirts isn't bad10:57
bethkotshirts here are cheep as long as they are plain.11:02
bethkoofcourse im in america so all i really know is the usd11:03
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jendafirst time in three days :)11:04
jendabye11:04
MenZalol11:06
bethkook, im going to go watch my booth. anyone know how to leave?11:06
bbrazilbethko: /part11:07
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