[12:00] <Warbo> BioGeek: You can have "sparse files" which don't bother saving huge lenghts of zeros or ones, they just remember the number of them. That lets you have more data than drive space
[12:01] <Damn_it> ty
[12:01] <yipe> okay, I'm digging through man-pages, I'm trying to understand, and I don't, I'm trying to compile a new fresh kernel, I'm calling it 2.6.26.25.Emperor what command do I need to put in to make the initrd file? Please be specific because obviously I am a retard today
[12:01] <Warbo> Damn_it: I was thinking of a similar idea (like a Free iTunes)
[12:01] <skavenge> whats the point with so many p2p programs
[12:01] <BioGeek> enyc: [4359990.639000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[12:01] <BioGeek> [4359990.639000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[12:01] <BioGeek> enyc: and that many many times...
[12:01] <Warbo> Damn_it: You may want to check out Democracy player (getdemocracy.org)
[12:02] <Damn_it> Warbo: yup that would entice media heads like me. that would be nirvana
[12:02] <enyc> BioGeek: ize seen that wany times
[12:02] <enyc> BioGeek: thats not entirely ususual
[12:02] <enyc> BioGeek: my debian system complains about  too many keys pressed ;-)
[12:02] <enyc> BioGeek: anyway
[12:02] <BioGeek> enyc: :-)
[12:03] <enyc> BioGeek: maybe I type too quickly on my Dvorak-layout IBM 1391406 model M clickykeyboard from 1987... dunno
[12:03] <Warbo> skavenge: There is harldy any PD/CC/FLOSS media in p2p networks
[12:03] <blanky> Warbo, yeah, I already forwarded the ports. In fact, this program (a dedicated server for a game I'm making), works perfectly in windows
[12:03] <BioGeek> enyc: The Ubuntu 6.06 CD is on it's way in the mail, so I was planning to do a fresh install anyway in a few weeks
[12:04] <Warbo> blanky: Funny, I can't get my router to forward ports :( (Well, at least I am actually on the Internet now. It was playing up yesterday)
[12:04] <enyc> BioGeek: kk that may magically cure it''' annoying though
[12:04] <skavenge> Warbo: i dont even know what any of that is ... by media i was assuming videos and music which are readily available on any p2p program
[12:04] <enyc> BioGeek: if you are going to wipe....
[12:04] <BioGeek> enyc: but I'm stuck for the moment though
[12:04] <blanky> Warbo, haha
[12:04] <blanky> Warbo, you tried going to http://192.168.0.1
[12:04] <enyc> BioGeek: please mail enyc@evtech.org  and let me knom what you found out ;-)....
[12:04] <enyc> BioGeek: and....
[12:04] <blanky> D-Link? Linksys?
[12:04] <BioGeek> enyc: can't even open manpages any more..
[12:04] <Warbo> skavenge: PD=Public Domain, FLOSS=Free/Libre Open Source Software (media under the GPL or FDL) CC-Creative Commons
[12:05] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, thanks anyway, you've been a great help.
[12:05] <skavenge> *shrug* i guess im not that specific with opensource .. im still going to download mp3s regardless
[12:05] <enyc> BioGeek: BEFORE re-using your harddisk (this will take a while btw), boot KNOPPIX with 'knoppix 2 dma noswap' at the knoppix bootprompt and 'badblocks -wvs /dev/hda'  ***This will ERASE everything permanetnly***
[12:05] <enyc> BioGeek: and (importantly) check for badsectors
[12:06] <pdc303> QRZ: I just installed Ubuntu Server on an old machine and bash/console does not automatically 'scroll' when it should - I must keep pressing 'Return' to make text scroll up. What could be the problem?
[12:06] <enyc> BioGeek: and/or cure futnny grown defects on the (potentially suspect) hdd
[12:06] <Warbo> skavenge: I download MP3s too. From Newgrounds though
[12:06] <pdc303> QRZ: oops. I didn't mean to hit tab and auto-complete your nick :)
[12:07] <godtvisken> I just installed ubuntu and have a 2.6.15-26-386 kernel. I need a 2.6.16 or later. Should I compile my own from source or is there an ubuntu-ish way to do this?
[12:08] <Warbo> The -26 kernel is out?
[12:08] <yipe> godtvisken, you and I are working on the same thing
[12:08] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, sounds scary but I'll give it a try and mail you the results.
[12:08] <Warbo> godtvisken: Compile your own I would say. It's not too difficult
[12:08] <yipe> I've been compliling myself, but the initrd has me completely confused
[12:08] <AngryElf> guys, I've tried both libdvdcss2 1.2.9 from seveas and 1.2.5-1 from the repositories?  and xine still tells me  "could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss"...ideas?
[12:08] <skavenge> Warbo: yes it is
[12:08] <skavenge> got it from updates a few days ago i think
[12:09] <Warbo> Well I am on -23 and will be for some time to come (I was annoyed when -18 became unsupported and I had to upgrade)
[12:09] <gatekeeper> godtvisken: there are howto's for kernel compiling in the ubuntu forums if you are interested
[12:09] <Warbo> yipe: What don't you get with the initrd?
[12:09] <enyc> BioGeek: its not scary really... its very good practice to haxe KNOPPIX and do 'memtest' boot  and 'knoppix 2 dma noswap'-followed-by-'badblocks -wvs /dev/hda'  before re-use of machine
[12:09] <yipe> how to do it
[12:10] <Warbo> yipe: You have installed the modules, yes?
[12:10] <yipe> I gotta mkinitrd .... but I just don't understand the syntax
[12:10] <yipe> yeah, just got done with that looooong bit
[12:10] <enyc> BioGeek: but you MUST note that badblocks with -w  WILL overwrite (destroy) everything
[12:10] <BioGeek> enyc: but for that I'll first have to burn a KNOPPIX CD, no?
[12:10] <enyc> BioGeek: well that would make sense... is that a problem?
[12:10] <yipe> it's just the initrd that I don't understand,
[12:10] <Warbo> yipe: I think it is just "mkinitramfs -o initrd.img <version>" Where <version> is the name of the directory in /lib/modules
[12:10] <interfear> I have an athlon x2, but im thinking i should stick with 32bit ubuntu right now? Any advice?
[12:11] <interfear> i havent installed yet
[12:11] <yipe> lemme give that a shot
[12:11] <Foobal> interfear: so wasted, if you stick to 32-bit :(
[12:11] <skavenge> Regardless of video format or what player im playing it in, my videos wash out white sporadically and randomly during an X session .. a restart of X fixes this, anyone have any ideas to why or how i can fix this? its quite annoying ..
[12:11] <sproingie> interfear: if you don't know that you need 64-bit for something, probably good to stick with 32 bit.  more stuff just works that way
[12:11] <AngryElf> guys, I've tried both libdvdcss2 1.2.9 from seveas and 1.2.5-1 from the repositories?  and xine still tells me  "could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss"...ideas?
[12:11] <BioGeek> enyc: I don't have a CD burner on this machine, but I'll make it on the Windows box.
[12:11] <veer>  j
[12:11] <skavenge> gstreamer backend, xine does it too ..
[12:11] <Seveas> AngryElf, please don't repeat...
[12:11] <Warbo> interfear: There is no real reason to use 64bit, but there is no reason not to unless you watch Flash movies, QuickTime and use WINE (although they are still possible to use in 64bit)
[12:12] <notamisfit> AngryElf: what are permissions on /dev/dvd?
[12:12] <sproingie> interfear: for a lot of games, you'll need 32bit
[12:12] <interfear> Warbo: what about mplayer codecs and stuff
[12:12] <notamisfit> libdvdcss needs write access to it
[12:12] <ardchoille> When I create a crontab for myself, where is that crontab info stored? Which file/directory?
[12:12] <Warbo> interfear: You may need a 32bit Mplayer installed, I'm not sure
[12:12] <compotatoj> I get an error saying XKB extension not enabled, how do I enable it?
[12:12] <enyc> BioGeek: its usually worth having a KNOPPIX disk at all times... and keeping the previous-versions you accumilate
[12:12] <interfear> hrm..
[12:13] <Warbo> DSL is useful to have
[12:13] <AngryElf> notamisfit, +rwx same for /dev/hdc
[12:13] <enyc> Warbo: inteed ... much smaller
[12:13] <yipe> it's doin' somethin'.... it's thinking really hard.... I think we got it:D
[12:13] <sproingie> damn, xgl is pretty.  had to switch back to regular X tho, was getting motion sickness
[12:13] <ardchoille> sproingie: ROFL!
[12:13] <Warbo> enyc: The one I have uses 2.4 (not sure about latest ones) so no dodgy cdrecord issues
[12:14] <notamisfit> AngryElf: the drive isn't mounted, is it?
[12:14] <yipe> YES! That did it, thanks Warbo!
[12:14] <Warbo> yipe: Yay
[12:14] <yipe> :D
[12:14] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, I'm learning all the time here ;-)
[12:14] <AngryElf> notamisfit, nothing for hdc in mtab
[12:14] <Warbo> Can ANYONE tell me how to make Nautilus's default zoom level 150%?
[12:15] <enyc> Warbo: heh... iirc the ubuntu-breezy/dapper cdrecord doesnt haze funny issues.....
[12:15] <kakado> sproingie, haha, for how long were you watching the screen before you got sick ?
[12:15] <Warbo> enyc: Well I boot from a CD, so if I leave it somewhere I have to boot from a LiveCD to write a new one
[12:15] <NKayhan> is there a way to reinstall xubuntu (which I am currently using) without killing all of my files?
[12:15] <interfear> anyone here using 32bit on a 64?
[12:15] <sproingie> interfear: yep, me
[12:15] <jiSh> make a seperate partition and move your /home
[12:16] <jiSh> to it
[12:16] <jiSh> just make sure you don't pick install using entire disk when you go to the reinstall, and pick your partitions manually
[12:16] <interfear> sproingie: i think im gonna do the same, do you find more items work?
[12:16] <notamisfit> i've got an amd64, but i don't fuck with 64 bit installs, totally useless for < 4gb ram
[12:16] <compotatoj> I have 1GB of ram and an Athlon 64, but my computer is very laggy when I am accessing the hard drive a lot, is there any way to have Ubuntu use less swap and more ram?
[12:17] <notamisfit> and half the software doesn't work
[12:17] <eno> I have one question.  Would somebody please let me know how to get a program to run at startup in gnome?  (I am trying to get qonsole to run at startup, because I am really used to having slickrun at work)
[12:17] <ardchoille> I found it. For anyone who is interested, crontabs are kept in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/$USER
[12:17] <godtvisken> Do I need to rename my 2.6.17.4 kernel directory? I am reading an install guide and it says the 2.6.16 kernel needs to be renamed to linux-2.6.16ck12
[12:17] <Warbo> notamisfit: If you use half FLOSS and half propriatary then yes
[12:17] <jiSh> eno: System ->Prefernces -> Session
[12:17] <polpak> eno, System->Preferences->Session
[12:17] <sproingie> !language
[12:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:17] <notamisfit> eno: try your session
[12:17] <jiSh> there's a startup tab
[12:17] <eno> thanks folks!
[12:18] <bbrazil> compotatoj: there's a swappiness value in /proc somewhere
[12:18] <Warbo> godtvisken: Should just call it something sensible like "2.6.16-custom" or something
[12:18] <jiSh> ahhh lagging from this bloody XP install inside vmware
[12:18] <godtvisken> Warbo: ok
[12:18] <notamisfit> godtvisken: just make sure you symlink it to /usr/src/linux before compiling any outside modules
[12:18] <bbrazil> compotatoj: with that much ram, you might even consider disabling swap
[12:18] <eno> that was easy.  thanks again!
[12:18] <Warbo> How would KDE run in VMWare on an AMD 2000+?
[12:18] <enyc> compotatoj: is DMA access enabled on PATA hard-disk ?
[12:19] <compotatoj> bbrazil, have you tried that and had it work
[12:19] <bbrazil> compotatoj: which?
[12:19] <NKayhan> Any reason why sudo apt-get install synaptic isn't working?
[12:19] <compotatoj> enyc, i have SATA
[12:19] <enyc> compotatoj: kk no matter
[12:19] <compotatoj> bbrazil, disabling swap
[12:19] <sproingie> Warbo: probably just fine.  i wouldnt try watching videos in it
[12:19] <jiSh> why do you have to apt-get it?
[12:19] <ryanakca> whats the difference between 192.168.0.0/8, 192.160.0.0/16, etc,etc
[12:19] <Warbo> NKayhan: Check your sources.list (and try to ping the URLs)
[12:19] <Lobster> n8
[12:19] <steveire> I'm confused. I sudo aptitude remove an old linux kernel, and apttude tells me that package is broken and offers a solution. What's going on there?
[12:19] <bbrazil> compotatoj: did it once I think. Worth a try, but your problem is probably deeper
[12:19] <Warbo> sproingie: OK, just that KQemu goes horribly slow
[12:19] <NKayhan> Warbo: where's the sources.list?
[12:20] <jiSh> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <Warbo> sproingie: And I don't want to bother installing VMWare if it is no better
[12:20] <Warbo> !easysource
[12:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:20] <sproingie> Warbo: qemu is horribly slow, it's a cpu emulator.  vmware is a hypervisor, it's much faster
[12:20] <rick-uk> Hello
[12:20] <enyc> compotatoj: what does 'sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda' (hard disk read-timings) say?
[12:20] <ryanakca> steveire: why remove old kernels? they can stay... who knows... you might need to go back on day...
[12:20] <rick-uk> Wonder if someone can help me?
[12:20] <compotatoj> bbrazil, do you know what happens if you use more than 1GB if swap is disabled
[12:20] <steveire> sorry, actually I remove the -image- it tells me the modules package is broken. Is that normal??
[12:20] <Warbo> sproingie: KQemu is the accellerator for it
[12:20] <jiSh> rick-uk: what's the problem?
[12:20] <steveire> This one is two kernels old
[12:21] <ryanakca> steveire: I believe so...
[12:21] <bbrazil> compotatoj: if you run out of memory, the OOM killer comes into play
[12:21] <sproingie> Warbo: yes, it makes qemu go from tectonically slow to merely glacial
[12:21] <Warbo> steveire: If you remove a linux-image package then get rid of the corresponding linux-restricted-modules and linux-headers as well
[12:21] <cbx33> hi all
[12:21] <NKayhan> IT"S BLANK!
[12:21] <Hoxzer> and I can see you in the daark
[12:21] <ballmerbrekdanz> has anyone tried ubuntu on a 233mhz ppc?
[12:21] <Warbo> sproingie: :)
[12:21] <rick-uk> I'm new to ubuntu.  I am trying to install real player and both the regular and synaptic app adders come back with error
[12:21] <ballmerbrekdanz> wonder whether it can be ok
[12:21] <cbx33> what's the command to install the source and headers for my curernt kernel?
[12:21] <compotatoj> enyc, cache - 1500MB/S, buffer - 25MB/s
[12:21] <ryanakca> steveire: keep them... I have kernels dating back to vmlinuz-2.6.15-15-386... now I'm running vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686
[12:21] <sproingie> ballmerbrekdanz: i wouldnt recommend it
[12:21] <ballmerbrekdanz> I've tried Xubuntu on a mmx 233mhx I think and it was kinda crap...
[12:21] <jiSh> rick-uk: what's the error?
[12:22] <NKayhan> rick-uk: why realplayer?
[12:22] <jiSh> also, realplayer is quite terrible
[12:22] <ryanakca> steveire: not that 2.6.15 is old or anything
[12:22] <enyc> compotatoj: that soends normal for a modern disk/system....
[12:22] <Warbo> cbx33: There is no source for your current kernel, only generic kernels (like 2.5.15). The headers are "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[12:22] <bbrazil> compotatoj: 25MB/s is a bit slow for SATA
[12:22] <ballmerbrekdanz> sproingie: what distro would do the job? Puppylinux is awsome but only for x86
[12:22] <ryanakca> steveire: not that 2.6.15-15 is old or anything
[12:22] <enyc> compotatoj: have you worked oet what is eating RAM? ;-)
[12:22] <polpak> ballmerbrekdanz, 233 should work fine, though you should probably tone down the graphical components
[12:22] <cbx33> Warbo, oh? why not
[12:22] <bbrazil> compotatoj: but should be quite enough for general usage
[12:22] <rick-uk> so I can access the UK BBC audio - has to rP (or WMP - yeuch)
[12:22] <sproingie> ballmerbrekdanz: er, what kind of cpu is it?
[12:22] <compotatoj> enyc, VMWare usually :)
[12:22] <cbx33> where can I get it from
[12:22] <cbx33> or do I have to patch vanilla
[12:22] <ryanakca> whats the difference between 192.168.0.0/8, 192.160.0.0/16, etc,etc?
[12:22] <polpak> ballmerbrekdanz, perhaps use xubuntu rather than ubuntu, etc
[12:22] <steveire> Warbo: Are you saying I should apititude remove some linux-headers-<number> package after I do this?
[12:22] <bbrazil> compotatoj: then keep bmware inside your ram
[12:22] <NKayhan> nick-uk: VLC/Mplayer
[12:22] <compotatoj> bbrazil, could VMWare be slowing it down
[12:22] <ballmerbrekdanz> sproingie: currently this Mac 233mhz has Panther installed which is way TOO much...
[12:23] <rick-uk> I've installer VLC
[12:23] <rick-uk> that went in OK
[12:23] <bbrazil> compotatoj: use at most around 512MB for vmware
[12:23] <ballmerbrekdanz> sproingie: it's a ppc 233MHZ
[12:23] <enyc> compotatoj: VMWare very-well could be eating loads of ram ;-)
[12:23] <Warbo> rick-uk: Once it is installed I STRONGLY advise the use of totem or something, using the RM codecs. RealPlayer lags a lot, even on a low quality stream on a broadband connection
[12:23] <ryanakca> steveire: do you NEED to remove them?
[12:23] <compotatoj> bbrazil, that is what i'm doing
[12:23] <NKayhan> So why is my sorces.list empty?
[12:23] <sproingie> ballmerbrekdanz: dunno much about ppc.  at that age of cpu you might try something like uclinux
[12:24] <Warbo> sources.list maybe?
[12:24] <steveire> ryanakca: I don't think so, but I don't see any need to keep all the kernels I have
[12:24] <sproingie> Warbo:  hey, realplayer is just ..BUFFERING... fine for ...BUFFERING... me.  what's ...BUFFERING... your problem ...BUFFERING... with it?
[12:24] <ryanakca> steveire: I keep them all... who knows... you might have some obscure driver and it might break at the next kernel upgrade... you can go back to the old one till it works again :)
[12:24] <Warbo> 233MHz is fine for PCs with Linux, and PPCs are supposedly faster for the same clock speed
[12:25] <NKayhan> can someone pastebin their sources.list?
[12:25] <bbrazil> Warbo: PPC is RISC, hence slower for the same clock
[12:25] <godtvisken> If I have an AMD Sempron, what processor family is that in the kernel config?
[12:25] <bbrazil> !easysource
[12:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:25] <bbrazil> NKayhan: ^
[12:25] <Warbo> sproingie: That's not the problem, the problem is that when watching videos the stream is downloaded fine but RealPlayer looks like a webcam slideshow rather than a video player
[12:25] <sproingie> bbrazil: it's not that cut and dried.  it's also one-clock per op, which is not the case for intel
[12:25] <rick-uk> yes but the \BBC radioplayer won'tlaunch - says I do not have the RP plugin or RP player installed - is there a way to fool it into using VLC?
[12:25] <NKayhan> ubotu: Oh cool
[12:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about Oh cool - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:26] <steveire> Nah, I'm not that bothered. I don't use my computer as a power tool. If I have or have had some obscure driver and I don't know about it now, I don't need it.
[12:26] <Warbo> bbrazil: But most processors newer than x86 (ie. most processors) can do much more with fewer clock cycles
[12:26] <ryanakca> rick-uk: you using firefox? I have bbc radioplayer running...
[12:26] <rick-uk> yes I am
[12:26] <bbrazil> Warbo: but modern x86 processors are suparscalar
[12:26] <rick-uk> bbc.co.uk
[12:26] <rick-uk> radio
[12:26] <rick-uk> listen to R4 or whatever..
[12:27] <ryanakca> rick-uk: yeah... I know what your talking about... BBC Radio Oxford :P
[12:27] <sproingie> uclinux is probably overkill since that's for systems without MMU's
[12:27] <Warbo> rick-uk: I end up looking in the source to find the stream URL. These days I just use BBCWorld though, since it has direct links to the ram files
[12:27] <aleksander> how can I install something ? is there any searcher of apps ?
[12:27] <sproingie> but it'd probably run pretty smooth on a 233 mhz ppc
[12:27] <bbrazil> aleksander: apt-cache search term
[12:27] <Warbo> !synaptic > aleksander
[12:27] <ryanakca> rick-uk: I'm trying to think what I had done...
[12:27] <rick-uk> great
[12:27] <aleksander> how to run this :P I`m new on linux
[12:28] <Warbo> aleksander: Read the guide
[12:28] <rick-uk> I guess vlc will open ram files - it seems to open most things!
[12:28] <aleksander> ... I'm blind
[12:28] <sproingie> apt-cache search might be better for CLI
[12:29] <ryanakca> rick-uk: what's in "about:plugins"?
[12:29] <polpak> aleksander,  https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[12:29] <aleksander> OK, I got it . :)
[12:29] <steveire> can I use aptitude to purge config files from packages that I removed previously?
[12:29] <aleksander> bye !
[12:29] <sproingie> steveire: yep.  select the package and hit underscore
[12:30] <rick-uk> ff says additional plugins are required.  There is an option to install plugins, but when I tried that it just took me to the real site - I d/l d the Linux version but I have NO idea what to do with it!!
[12:30] <rick-uk> So much easier on OSX...
[12:31] <ryanakca> rick-uk: sudo apt-get install mplayerplug-in
[12:31] <ryanakca> rick-uk: should do it :)
[12:31] <revilot> is there anything like ndiswrapper for hardware other than wireless cards?
[12:31] <steveire> sproingie: what package? I mean I did aptitude remove on many packages (don't have a list of names), and now I wish I'd used purge
[12:31] <rick-uk> is that in the terminal?
[12:31] <sproingie> revilot: yes, captive-ntfs works in a similar fashion
[12:31] <godtvisk1n> What command is used to config my kernel with ncurses? I don't like make xconfig
[12:32] <notamisfit> godtvisken: make menuconfig
[12:32] <sproingie> revilot: as for hardware, no idea.  it'd be nice if i could get a printer driver working like that
[12:32] <ryanakca> rick-uk: once installed, open up FF, type "about:plugins" into the address bar and tell me if theres anything about RealPlayer in there
[12:32] <ryanakca> rick-uk: yes, command line
[12:32] <notamisfit> godtvisk1n: make menuconfig
[12:32] <rick-uk> hang on
[12:32] <revilot> sproingie: thats just for writing to ntfs partitions right?
[12:32] <sproingie> revilot: reading and writing, yeah.  i've heard it's pretty slow
[12:33] <steveire> would sudo aptitude purge do it?
[12:33] <revilot> sproingie: i was looking for something that would allow a piece of hardware to work that there is no native linux driver for
[12:33] <sproingie> steveire: aptitude remove --purge i think
[12:34] <revilot> anyone have nay tips on getting a creative prodikeys to work in linux
[12:34] <steveire> hmmm, doesn't give any command line output
[12:34] <sproingie> revilot: i imagine there's some experimental stuff, nothing as widely used as ndiswrappers tho
[12:35] <yipe> so close
[12:35] <ryanakca> whats the difference between 192.168.0.0/8, 192.160.0.0/16, etc,etc
[12:35] <compotatoj> Does anyone know how to manage swap or disable it? (GUI would be nice but not neccesary)
[12:35] <sproingie> heh, i love "aptitude moo".  "There are no Easter Eggs in this program."
[12:36] <yipe> ryanakca, you can't divide zero
[12:36] <sproingie> yeah, other than minesweeper
[12:36] <NKayhan> OK I did the sourceomatic, and saved the new sources.list, but still no synaptic
[12:36] <ryanakca> yipe: I know...networking :P
[12:36] <rick-uk> OK, its installing mplaYER PLUGIN NOW
[12:36] <godtvisk1n> What do I do if I get errors when running 'make menuconifg'?
[12:36] <yipe> I'm just teasing you because that's way over my head;)
[12:36] <ryanakca> compotatoj: like just looking at it's usage?
[12:37] <notamisfit> godtvisk1n: try installing ncurses-dev (or something like that)
[12:37] <ryanakca> compotatoj: top    in the command line should do it
[12:37] <compotatoj> ryanakca, not really, i want to make it not used unless it is neccesary
[12:37] <shedi> godtvisk1n,  libncurses5-dev
[12:38] <ryanakca> compotatoj: ah... sorry... no clue
[12:38] <godtvisk1n> thanks
[12:38] <yipe> okay, I'm almost done with my kernel
[12:38] <notamisfit> compotatoj : /sbin/swapoff (read the manpage before you go shooting yourself in the foot)
[12:38] <compotatoj> notamisfit, thanks
[12:38] <yipe> I try this "sudo ln -s /boot/System.map-2.6.16.24.Emperor /boot/System.map" and I get this error "ln: creating symbolic link `/boot/System.map' to `/boot/System.map-2.6.16.24.Emperor': File exists"
[12:38] <shedi> first shoot yourself in the foot, then read the manpage :)
[12:38] <yipe> isn't the file SUPPOSED to exist?
[12:39] <shedi> best approach
[12:39] <notamisfit> shedi: enough times to learn yourself at least
[12:39] <sproingie> why doesn't alt-f2 work anymore?
[12:39] <sproingie> i even reset it in the keyboard shortcuts, and it still won't work
[12:40] <yipe> anyone know what's up with that error?
[12:40] <polpak> sproingie, what was it supposed to do?
[12:40] <sproingie> polpak: pop open the 'run' dialog
[12:40] <trident523> My install keeps freezing everytime it starts. Rather, it goes really slow.
[12:40] <polpak> yipe, you have the arguments backwards
[12:40] <sproingie> polpak: in fact, whatever i map it to now doesn't work
[12:40] <yipe> oh?
[12:41] <james91823> I have a running version of xubuntu but i need to configure my wireless adapter it is a Linksys PCMIA G card its basic. It comes up under the System > networking as active.... ive configured my WEP and my IP address subnet mask and gateway. But now when i go to the web nothing loads. How do i check the status of my WIfI connection... Besides Ifconfig
[12:41] <polpak> yipe, is System.map supoosed to be the link, or the file the link points to
[12:41] <yipe> I don't know, whichever makes my kernel work:P
[12:41] <ryanakca> rick-uk: installed?
[12:41] <polpak> james91823, iwconfig ?
[12:41] <james91823> iwconfig? ill try it one sec
[12:42] <rick-uk> THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH - ITSWORKING!!!!!
[12:42] <james91823> ok i did iwconfig what am i looking for?
[12:42] <compotatoj> notamisfit, should i do swapon -p 1 /dev/sda5 or swapoff -p 1 /dev/sda5
[12:42] <godtvisk1n> What Processor Family is an AMD Sempron considered in the kernel config?
[12:43] <yipe> wow.... my foot is WHITE, the light just hit it from the window and there's a reflection on the ceiling.... there's glare coming off my foot
[12:43] <trident523> Any clue why my installer is really slow? (like, it has taken 10 min to get the list of languages).
[12:43] <podzap> hi all
[12:43] <enyc> trident523: bad cd / cd-drive....
[12:43] <cc_> could somebody please assist me with the ppp connection problems that im having. i am trying to connect via a usb adsl modem, here is a paste of my ppp.log - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18047
[12:43] <enyc> trident523: bizarre incompatibility with system...
[12:43] <podzap> can somebody tell me where to get an ubuntu version of debootstrap as an RPM?
[12:43] <podzap> I need it so I can install ubuntu!!!
[12:44] <enyc> trident523: I was having woeird slow behaviour deteching hardware and stuff on osee machine untiel I upgraded the BIOS
[12:44] <yipe> polpak's idea didn't work I get the same error trying it the other way
[12:44] <samuli> ubuntu version in rpm = bad, bad oxymoron
[12:44] <james91823> OK it says it can see my network and the link quality is fine then why am i not getting TCP traffic?
[12:44] <podzap> if you can use alien to create an rpm for me, I would be much obliged.
[12:44] <ryanakca> rick-uk: np... here to help :)
[12:44] <podzap> samuli: ubuntu version, as in not the debian version.
[12:45] <rick-uk> Now all I need to do is get the volume control to work!!
[12:45] <samuli> podzap. yeah.. but rpm?
[12:45] <notamisfit> trident523 : ubuntu's first time up using something other than debian-installer?
[12:45] <notamisfit> my guess anyways
[12:45] <rick-uk> the one on the menu bar does nothing
[12:45] <podzap> samuli: need it to install ubuntu as a xen machine on my suse box
[12:45] <trident523> Well, I'll go re-download it. I guess. This is the 2nd time bittorrent has given me a bad download.
[12:45] <ThunderStruck> podzap: ubuntu doesnt use rpms
[12:45] <trident523> Oh... I'm using 6.06, the i386 cd...
[12:45] <james91823> anyone?
[12:45] <podzap> ThunderStruck: no shit
[12:46] <trident523> And, the only thing that I cant do is select english and hit next, as no languages have popped up.
[12:46] <yipe> could someone explain this system.map thing to me?
[12:47] <cc_> could somebody please assist me with the ppp connection problems that im having. i am trying to connect via a usb adsl modem, here is a paste of my ppp.log - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18047
[12:47] <sysdoc> Anyone have any problem with the update for xserver-xorg-core (1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10) to 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1? I have been crashing X on the screensaver ever since the update yesterday.
[12:47] <sproingie> yunno, i may have actually removed the package with the gnome run dialog.  anyone know what it's called, and what package it's in?
[12:48] <soundray> yipe: I don't know the answer, but if I wanted to, I'd search the web.
[12:48] <yipe> I am.....
[12:49] <soundray> yipe: how about http://dirac.org/linux/system.map/ then?
[12:49] <trident523> Well, I think it's a bad CD. Guess I'll wait for my shipit. Although, I was looking forward to getting it installed within 6 weeks.
[12:49] <Flannel> trident523: did you burn slowly?
[12:49] <trident523> Didnt specify it.
[12:49] <trident523> I think my standard is 24x.
[12:49] <Flannel> trident523: try burning at a lower speed.
[12:49] <Flannel> 4x is good
[12:50] <trident523> Ok... Will do.
[12:50] <soundray> trident523: do check the md5sum before you burn again?
[12:50] <trident523> M'kay. Know of a good windows checker?
[12:51] <soundray> s/\?/\!/
[12:51] <soundray> trident523: I know they exist...
[12:52] <trident523> Oh, I found one.
[12:52] <trident523> *url for anyone paying attention* http://www.fastsum.com/
[12:52] <Flannel> trident523: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html  thats linked from the ubuntu wiki
[12:52] <james91823> what is the command to figure out your networking preferences for a wireless adapter iwconfig?
[12:52] <yipe> okay, I've got these two files, one is called system.map, the other is system.map~2.6.16.24.Emperor, and I'm supposed to make one point to the other, but I get an error that says "file exists"
[12:53] <baconbacon> !mp3
[12:53] <Laney> np:
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:53] <Flannel> yipe: that's because one already exists.
[12:53] <yipe> of course they both exist, they're supposed ot exist
[12:53] <soundray> yipe: use the -f flag
[12:53] <yipe> okay, then what's the solution?
[12:53] <yipe> okay...
[12:53] <Flannel> yipe: Except, not before the linking.
[12:53] <dli> yipe, rm System.map ; ln -s system.map~2.6.16.24.Emperor System.map
[12:54] <compotatoj> How do I see what is being used in the swap?
[12:54] <yipe> how good of an idea is deleting my system.map? Sounds like trouble to me
[12:54] <godtviskin> Where is the USB mass storage option in the kernel configuration?
[12:54] <dli> yipe, you don't even need the system.map most likely, so, doesn't matter indeed
[12:54] <soundray> compotatoj: cat /proc/meminfo
[12:55] <yipe> okay, did it..... let's hope that solved it, here I go
[12:55] <dli> godtviskin, you need sd_mod and sg in scsi , and [euo] hci_hcd, usb-storage under USB
[12:55] <compotatoj> Has anyone on an AMD64 gotten compiz to work and their numpad to work? Haha.
[12:56] <Meatwad> ubuntu has suddenly lost the ability to connect to my wireless network :(
[12:56] <james91823> yeah tell me about it
[12:56] <Nathan_> Can anyone point me in the direction to configure DNS?
[12:56] <james91823> ME TOO PLEASE
[12:56] <godtviskin> You all should use some WRT54G router and put OpenWRT on it
[12:56] <soundray> godtviskin: the option is called CONFIG_USB_STORAGE . Edit /usr/src/linux/.config if you missed it in make menuconfig
[12:56] <godtviskin> Then avoid having to set up a wireless card in linux
[12:56] <soundray> godtviskin: I have
[12:57] <godtviskin> soundray: thanks, and cool. so have i, it saves so much trouble
[12:57] <cc_> could somebody please assist me with the ppp connection problems that im having. i am trying to connect via a usb adsl modem, here is a paste of my ppp.log - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18047
[12:57] <soundray> godtviskin: OpenWrt is good stuff
[12:57] <Warbo> cc_: What kind of modem?
[12:57] <rellim> hello all
[12:57] <godtviskin> soundray: the config file says not to edit it :P
[12:58] <cc_> warbo: connexant usb adsl modem
[12:58] <soundray> godtviskin: don't worry about that warning, as long as you're sensible...
[12:58] <godtviskin> ok
[12:58] <Warbo> OK, I have never used one of them
[12:58] <cc_> war: i can get the link light stable and everything going, i just cannot seem to authenticate.
[12:58] <james91823> but do you have to use openwrt?
[12:59] <Meatwad> you don't have to use openwrt
[12:59] <Meatwad> i connect to a cheapo linksys router fine...until now
[12:59] <james91823> does anyone have  alink to a support page for wireless in ubunut?
[12:59] <cc_> warbo: so it isnt a modem issue, the modem is up, its a ppp communication problem
[12:59] <james91823> ubuntu*
[12:59] <soundray> !wifi
[12:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[12:59] <james91823> thank you lol
[01:00] <Warbo> cc_: The modems I use handle that anyway. If the modem works then the connection will work
[01:00] <trident523> *in my somewhat offtipic continuation* I'm buring the CD at 4x right now. And, will be back with more linux newbie questions.
[01:00] <cc_> Warbo:  how do i specify that it must use PPPoE LLC ?
[01:00] <tom__> ciao
[01:00] <trident523> offtopic*
[01:00] <cc_> Warbo: because i beleive that is the problem
[01:00] <godtviskin> soundray: it says i need SCSI disk support too, hm
[01:00] <Warbo> cc_: Is there a guide to your modem on the Wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsbAdslModem)?
[01:00] <soundray> trident523: you're in the right place, mostly...
[01:01] <soundray> godtviskin: yes, like someone else said earlier.
[01:01] <Warbo> cc_: No idea, as I said my eagle-usb one sorts that out itself (it's getting the damn thing installed in the first place which is tricky)
[01:01] <godtviskin> ok
[01:01] <cc_> warbo: and that i got perfect, ubuntu picks it all up no problem
[01:01] <cc_> warbo: okay after installing the driver in the firmware folder of course
[01:02] <cc_> Warbo: but fact is, its there, its waiting to be connected using a working isp configuration. i just need to get a proper setup using PPPoE LLC
[01:02] <Nathan_> Once again, can anyone point me in the direction to configure DNS?
[01:02] <andy-> Do I just need libgtk-1.2.so.0 if I get this message?: /home/andy/.setup25495: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:03] <cc_> Warbo: i used this guide to get my modem working so that it picks up the adsl link etc. http://rajeshjayaprakash.in/conexant.html <- thats all good.
[01:03] <MikeyMike-5speed> does anyone know if ubuntu's partition creation process will resize windows partitions without damage?
[01:03] <soundray> Nathan_: be a more descriptive. What's the problem you're trying to solve?
[01:03] <godtviskin> I keep getting the error that " This feature depends on another which has been configured as a module." How do I know which other feature I need to enable?
[01:03] <Warbo> cc_: If you get it all working then could you write a brief guide on the Ubuntu Wiki please?
[01:03] <sysdoc> MikeyMike-5speed, yup
[01:03] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: yes, it will. Do backup important files nevertheless.
[01:04] <Flannel> MikeyMike-5speed: you should defrag first, and it still depends
[01:04] <MikeyMike-5speed> ntfs?
[01:04] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: yes, even ntfs
[01:04] <MikeyMike-5speed> thank you muchly
[01:04] <cc_> warbo: i would certainly do so but its just the connection part that i cannot get up. that guide i pasted shows how to make ubuntu pick the modem up without any problems when plugging it in etc.
[01:04] <cc_> Warbo: i just need assistance making the dial script to work 100%
[01:04] <godtviskin> I am trying to configure my kernel and I get the error that "This feature depends on another which has been configured as a module." How do I know which other feature I need to enable?
[01:05] <cc_> Warbo: ive been struggling for the past 5 hours or so.
[01:05] <Warbo> cc_: As I say I don't know that stuff. I use a router on my own box and I type "sudo startadsl" on my Dad's
[01:05] <soundray> godtviskin: does it not say in the help text?
[01:05] <godtviskin> soundray: no
[01:05] <cc_> Warbo: lucky :(
[01:05] <AndyCooll_> MikeyMike-5speed: This is a good website related to partitioning http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[01:05] <MikeyMike-5speed> whats the easiest way to install ubuntu on an hp pavillion laptop without messing up windows (using grub to dual boot)?
[01:05] <MikeyMike-5speed> AndyCooll_,  thank you
[01:06] <h6w> Hello, I'm getting an initscripts error when I upgrade to dapper.   I've tried apt-get install -f but it complains about a mount problem.  Please help!
[01:06] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: follow ubuntu's advice
[01:06] <soundray> !dualboot
[01:06] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:06] <technel> If I just run an "alias" command, will the alias be available on every session, including if I restart, or do I need to add it to a bash config file or something?
[01:06] <MikeyMike-5speed> soundray,  will i have to manually do the partitions?
[01:06] <Heretician> Does the speed that I burn Ubuntu matter?
[01:07] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: there are options... Are you worried about partitioning?
[01:07] <MikeyMike-5speed> soundray,  im not im capable of doing it im helpin someone over the phone lol
[01:07] <Madpilot> Heretician, slower burning is better, it seems
[01:07] <soundray> Heretician: some burners churn out better CDs when you set a low speed
[01:07] <Warbo> There probably needs to be some distinction between PPC and Intel Macs these days. My Ubuntu CDs just say "For Your Mac", but loads of people have Intel Macs now
[01:08] <Nathan_> I am trying to configure Virtual hosts for Apache.  I have setup DNS manualy in slackware.  The files are in /etc/named.conf and /var/named/zone etc.  What software do I need to install to get those files.  Do I have to use a GUI or can I do it by hand?
[01:09] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: ubuntu auto-sets up root and swap partitions if you let it. Better to have a separate /home, but not strictly necessary.
[01:09] <soundray> technel: aliases should be set in $HOME/.bashrc
[01:09] <godtviskin> I am trying to configure my kernel and I get the error that "This feature depends on another which has been configured as a module." How do I know which other feature I need to enable? It doesn't tell me.
[01:09] <MikeyMike-5speed> also /var for fragmentation i know
[01:09] <Heretician> So it would be better to just burn with like.. 2x or 4x?
[01:09] <MikeyMike-5speed> soundray,  what im worried about is the auto method will it overwrite windows?
[01:09] <technel> soundray, Alright, thanks
[01:09] <samuli> tere
[01:09] <MikeyMike-5speed> or will it respect the windows installation
[01:09] <Viper550> Hello again
[01:09] <jiSh> auto will erase entire HD
[01:09] <gtrplr> anyone setup xorg on an ubuntu server?
[01:09] <Warbo> godtviskin: Enable anything that you want as a module. The only things to compile in are enough to get an initrd working
[01:10] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: the design is to respect Windows and other installations. It can be a bit hairy, if you've got unusual partitioning etc., but the installer deals well with the common setups.
[01:10] <MikeyMike-5speed> soundray,  its a single partition windows installation on a hp pavillion
[01:10] <sysdoc> MikeyMike-5speed, read this http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/
[01:11] <MikeyMike-5speed> thank you sysdoc
[01:11] <baconbacon> Just dont "use the entire disc"
[01:11] <MikeyMike-5speed> right
[01:11] <MikeyMike-5speed> but the alternative to that is 'manual'
[01:12] <soundray> Heretician: it can be, with some drives and blank CDs, or combinations thereof. Usually, you're best off with the high burning speed, though, unless you've already found problems.
[01:12] <forrest> Whats "dist-upgrade" do that is different from "upgrade" in aptitude? I have looked everywhere, but I only found it is "intelligent".
[01:12] <montag_> Anyone know why mplayer would play video files stretched? I have a 1680x1050 laptop screen (16:10 aspect ratio).
[01:12] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: I wouldn't expect any problems, but obviously won't give you a promise or guarantee.
[01:12] <MikeyMike-5speed> soundray,  of course
[01:12] <Heretician> stops at 66% on one cd, wont even boot up another.. althoug the CDs are pretty scratchy-- i'm going out and buying more though
[01:12] <MikeyMike-5speed> thanks i will be right back
[01:12] <Nathan_> soundray: I am trying to configure Virtual hosts for Apache.  I have setup DNS manualy in slackware.  The files are in /etc/named.conf and /var/named/zone etc.  What software do I need to install to get those files.  Do I have to use a GUI or can I do it by hand?
[01:13] <Warbo> forrest: If new dependencies are needed then dist-upgrade will get them. Regular upgrade will leave the dependant package at it's current version
[01:14] <soundray> forrest: during years of using Debian and Ubuntu, I've never had a good reason to prefer upgrade over dist-upgrade
[01:15] <soundray> Heretician: your situation warrants an attempt with lower burning speed.
[01:15] <Warbo> I want to set icon zooming to 150% by default. How do I do that?
[01:16] <g-henna> hi everyone
[01:16] <trident523> Hello.
[01:16] <g-henna> is it correct that there is no file /etc/ld.so.conf in ubuntu?
[01:16] <Eclipse_GSX> hi
[01:16] <soundray> Nathan_: have you installed the bind package?
[01:16] <Heretician> it was at 48, what would you suggest I change this to, soundray?
[01:16] <Warbo> g-henna: I can't find it. Pretty annoying since I don't know the alternative
[01:17] <soundray> Heretician: the lowest that the package of your blank suggests.
[01:17] <Heretician> they suggest a lowest and highest? :P
[01:17] <Warbo> Heretician: 4x is usually the most supported
[01:17] <Heretician> okies
[01:17] <Heretician> although... 2x would be even better? :P
[01:17] <g-henna> i have the problem that ld links to the so-files in /usr/local/lib fine, but when running the application, these paths are not known to the program and it crashes saying that the lib was not found
[01:18] <Warbo> Heretician: Many writable discs don't support 2x (I have a set which says 4x-12x)
[01:18] <g-henna> Warbo: you think just adding that file may help?
[01:18] <Warbo> g-henna: I don't think so. I obviously isn't there for a reason, but I don't know what that reason is
[01:18] <soundray> g-henna: I've got that file, but I don't know whether that means anything
[01:18] <soundray> Heretician: I mostly use RWs that suggest 4-12
[01:19] <rubso> Warbo: Standby Option doesn't work..
[01:19] <Heretician> trident523, my install questions will come when i get more problems of course :P
[01:19] <forrest> soundray: sorry, my client has a 20 line buffer, and i didn't have enough time. Can you say that again?
[01:19] <Warbo> rubso: Sorry, DPMS was the only thing I could think of
[01:19] <Heretician> i currently also have a problem to deal with xserver.. I'm going to try that fix on the site :)
[01:19] <Heretician> er forums
[01:19] <soundray> forrest: during years of using Debian and Ubuntu, I've never had a good reason to prefer upgrade over dist-upgrade
[01:19] <rubso> :( ok thanx
[01:19] <g-henna> man ldconfig shows that this file seems to be actually used
[01:20] <Nathan_> soundray:  Oops.  Thanks.  It is those little things that get ya..   I will see if things look familiar.  Thanks.
[01:20] <forrest> soundray: the line before that
[01:21] <soundray> forrest, sorry I don't think I said anything else to you
[01:21] <Warbo> forrest: Dist-upgrade gets dependencies which you don't already have. If a package needs new dependencies then upgrade will leave the package at it's current version
[01:21] <forrest> soundray: about the difference, not your preference
[01:21] <forrest> thanks
[01:21] <g-henna> ok, solved. just created the file and ran sudo ldconfig
[01:21] <g-henna> bye then
[01:22] <h6w> "
[01:22] <h6w> Setting up initscripts (2.86.ds1-6ubuntu32) ...
[01:22] <h6w> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on varrun,
[01:22] <h6w>        missing codepage or other error
[01:22] <h6w>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:22] <h6w>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:22] <h6w> dpkg: error processing initscripts (--configure):
[01:22] <h6w>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 32
[01:22] <h6w> "
[01:22] <h6w> Any ideas?
[01:22] <ompaul> !flood
[01:22] <soundray> h6w: yes
[01:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:22] <soundray> h6w: don't flood
[01:23] <h6w> Sorry, that wasn't supposed to be multiple lines.
[01:23] <ompaul> h6w, please read ubotu's last message
[01:23] <soundray> h6w: if you want any sympathetic response, that is.
[01:23] <trident523> !help
[01:23] <montag_> Nevermind. mplayer owned.
[01:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:23] <alecks> hey does anybody know where I can find the awards that ubuntu has won?
[01:24] <jrib> !awards
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about awards - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:24] <montag_> !mplayer
[01:24] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Try " sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts " ( multiverse must be enabled see !repos ).
[01:24] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:25] <trident523> Ok, I got past most of the liveCD bootup. Here comes the moment of truth for my *fairly recent* L25-S1##.
[01:25] <h6w> I can't see ubotu's last message. What does it say?
[01:25] <soundray> h6w: it says, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you've got errors to paste.
[01:26] <a1ecks> sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[01:27] <h6w> ok, more info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18049
[01:27] <trident523> Hmm, I'mm still getting a slow responce on the graphical install.
[01:28] <h6w> Was upgrading from breezy to dapper, suddenly crashed with error status 32 on initscripts.  Haven't been able to get past this.
[01:29] <soundray> h6w: are you mounting something to /varrun in /etc/fstab?
[01:29] <jrib> a1ecks: I thought there used to be an award page but I can't find it.  You can grep the http://www.ubuntu.com/news page for 'award' though
[01:29] <Warbo> I'm finally making the switch back to spatial mode now :)
[01:29] <malv> when does umbrello not crash?
[01:29] <h6w> Nope.
[01:30] <tvalladon> how do I get the exact ammount of bites that the CD in the drive uses? I am trying to make a progress bar for making ISO's with with dd and pv
[01:30] <soundray> Warbo: is that the mode where nautilus remembers icon positions?
[01:30] <Warbo> soundray: "manual" remembers icon positions, spatial opens each folder in a new window and remembers their size and position
[01:31] <soundray> h6w: strange... post your /etc/fstab on the same site pls
[01:31] <trident523> Uhh, does the graphcal install take almost 4-5min to load up usually?
[01:31] <h6w> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18050
[01:31] <h6w> ^-- fstab
[01:31] <soundray> Warbo: cool, I've been wanting to try that... Still missing the old Mac System 7 Finder sometimes...
[01:31] <Warbo> soundray: I've never used a Mac, but the Amiga Workbench does it
[01:31] <soundray> trident523: can do
[01:32] <h6w> Could it be that I have root mounted as xfs?
[01:33] <soundray> h6w: that looks okay, doesn't explain your problem... xfs as root should be okay, although it's unusual... Can't really tell you what's going on. Is a re-install out of the question?
[01:33] <trident523> soundray: seems like it just took a while to load. All is seemingly fine.
[01:34] <h6w> Probably not.  It would just be a bit of a pain as ndiswrapper took me some time to configure.
[01:34] <soundray> trident523: it can happen with certain hardware, low memory etc.
[01:34] <light_> hey guys, how can i check since when my linux is installed?
[01:34] <raptros-v76> light_: ?
[01:34] <soundray> h6w: just backup your /etc/ndiswrapper, or your entire /etc if you prefer
[01:35] <light_> raptros-v76, ?
[01:35] <raptros-v76> light_: what do you want to do?
[01:35] <soundray> light_: interesting question... ls -lt /etc might give you a clue if you look at the last line. Could be wrong, though.
[01:35] <light_> to check when did i installed my linux
[01:36] <hawkaloogie> soundray, can't be, i didn't have ubuntu in 2003
[01:36] <light_> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root      2586 2003-12-04 09:57 locale.alias
[01:36] <light_> not likely :P
[01:36] <hawkaloogie> and incidentally light_ has the same as i do
[01:36] <light_> :P
[01:37] <trident523> !install trident523
[01:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about install trident523 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:37] <a1ecks> where can i find what awards ubuntu has won
[01:37] <morrolan> !awards
[01:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about awards - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:37] <soundray> light_, hawkaloogie, look at the time stamps and/or file contents in /var/log/installer/ -- they should be accurate
[01:37] <devhen> a1ecks, what do you need awards for?!
[01:38] <a1ecks> devhen: i just need to know what awards ubuntu has won
[01:38] <hawkaloogie> soundray, that i'll agree with
[01:38] <Warbo> devhen: Propaganda? We need some more of that :)
[01:38] <Stoned2daBones> can someone help me to upgrade my amsn?
[01:38] <light_> soundray, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  47017 2006-04-02 00:01 status
[01:38] <light_> -rw------- 1 root root 231613 2006-04-02 00:01 syslog
[01:38] <Warbo> Stoned2daBones: Did you install it through APT?
[01:38] <light_> could be?
[01:38] <a1ecks> devhen: do you know?
[01:38] <light_> the last lines
[01:38] <Stoned2daBones> i really dont know what to do
[01:38] <yipe> grrrr
[01:39] <Warbo> a1ecks: Have you checked the fridge?
[01:39] <devhen> a1ecks, some awards listed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/news
[01:39] <yipe> Error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting
[01:39] <Warbo> !synaptic > Stoned2daBones
[01:39] <sid> if I leave my laptop for a few minutes, when I come back the screen has shut off
[01:39] <morrolan> !fridge
[01:39] <ubotu> fridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com
[01:39] <trident523> Going on 7 min for the 2nd step to load off.
[01:39] <yipe> I thought I did! it's right there!
[01:39] <sid> but it won't come back on
[01:39] <dli> yipe, what are you trying to do?
[01:39] <sid> the only way to get back on is to use control alt backspace
[01:39] <sproingie>  /me awards ubuntu the coveted Golden Spork
[01:39] <yipe> I've compiled a new kernel, all I'm trying to do is boot it up
[01:39] <soundray> light_: only you will know whether that's plausible or not.
[01:39] <Warbo> yipe: You copied arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot didn't you?
[01:40] <yipe> yeah....
[01:40] <dli> yipe, using kernel-package?
[01:40] <codecaine> anybody know how to add appz to the applications menu on gnome?
[01:40] <light_> soundray, i'm guessing you're right :P thx
[01:40] <yipe> dli, I don't know what you mean, this is only the second time I've compiled a kernel and the first time I basically had my hand held the whole time
[01:40] <notamisfit> codecaine: alacarte
[01:41] <light_> !dapper
[01:41] <Seveas> codecaine, righclick on 'application', select ;edit menus'
[01:41] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[01:41] <soundray> sid: maybe it's your nick -- sid is the guy who breaks toys...
[01:41] <Warbo> codecaine: Application>Accessories>Alacarte Menu Editor
[01:41] <light_> !dapper release date
[01:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about dapper release date - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:41] <sid> haha
[01:41] <Stoned2daBones> there I am but still dont know what to do!
[01:41] <dli> yipe, read about kernel-package
[01:41] <soundray> sid: but it could just be your screensaver. Deactivate in System-Preferences-Screensaver.
[01:41] <sid> that's how I got my nick, because I used to look like him
[01:41] <dli> yipe, no need to support other ways of kernel building in ubuntu
[01:42] <soundray> sid: but those times have gone by, lucky you.
[01:42] <Stoned2daBones> I have version 0.94-1 and I want to get 0.96
[01:42] <sid> yup
[01:42] <sid> I do have my screensaver disabled
[01:42] <Warbo> Stoned2daBones: Search for AMSN and click on the little box next to it. Select "Mark for upgrade". If that option is not there then it is already at the newest version
[01:42] <morrolan> light_ dapper was released on the 1st June 2006
[01:42] <deltoya> sid: It's the energy savings settings
[01:42] <soundray> sid: is it trying to suspend or hibernate? Check your powersave settings
[01:42] <ScurveyFrog> hello
[01:43] <dli> yipe, after you make menuconfig, do: make-kpkg kernel-image
[01:43] <ScurveyFrog> I'm trying to get vmware running as a separate session in ubuntu
[01:43] <sid> where are the powersave settings?
[01:43] <digitalhav0c> anyone know were the compiz start up script is located in ubuntu
[01:43] <trident523> Gah. My lack of ability to wait is getting to me.
[01:43] <Stoned2daBones> but if I go to check for new version I get a message that there is an upgrade
[01:43] <ScurveyFrog> I can get vmware to run as a session, but when I try to open Windows XP, it says that I don't have permission
[01:43] <soundray> sid: System-Preferences-Power Management (if you have dapper)
[01:43] <sid> nope, still using breezy
[01:43] <raptros-v76> digitalhav0c: there isnt one
[01:43] <ScurveyFrog> how can I get the right permissions?
[01:44] <yipe> is vmlinux not the file I was supposed to copy?
[01:44] <Warbo> Stoned2daBones: If you download a tar.gz archive from their site then you can use build-essential and checkinstall to install it
[01:44] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: which user are you, and does it work when you log in as that user to KDE, Gnome, ICEWM, etc. ?
[01:44] <digitalhav0c> raptros-v76, for me its /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[01:44] <sid> gtsudo "update-manager -d" doesn't update to dapper (I tried)
[01:44] <digitalhav0c> thanks anyway
[01:44] <raptros-v76> digitalhav0c: in ubuntu?
[01:44] <Samus_Aran> yipe: vmlinux is not the kernel image, if that's what you're after
[01:44] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: yes, I can normally log in as that user
[01:44] <digitalhav0c> yeah im using ubuntu
[01:45] <Warbo> -d does development version doesn't it? (Edgy)
[01:45] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: it's my normal user account
[01:45] <Stoned2daBones> thats what I was thinking but I dont know how to do it
[01:45] <raptros-v76> digitalhav0c: oh, you already set it up?
[01:45] <digitalhav0c> but install using http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189
[01:45] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: but does VMware run fine under KDE or Gnome, or do you get the permission problem ?
[01:45] <dli> yipe, as I said, stop, and read about kernel-package
[01:45] <digitalhav0c> raptros-v76, yeah
[01:45] <yipe> okay
[01:45] <raptros-v76> digitalhav0c: so whats the question
[01:45] <soundray> sid: you'd have to replace all occurrences of "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list with "dapper" first, then it might work
[01:45] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: no, it runs fine normally
[01:45] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[01:46] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: first step, check the VMware log files.  they should be in the directory of the virtual hard drive
[01:46] <soundray> sid: if it still doesn't upgrade, upgrade your update-manager separately and try again
[01:46] <lukaswayne9> Hey all, I've got an Ubuntu partition that I pretty much wrecked.  I would like to reinstall ubuntu, but have it not touch my /home folder.  Is this possible?
[01:47] <Stoned2daBones> thanks man 4 the link!
[01:47] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: hopefully it will tell you what it was not having permission to do.  failing that, I recommend running vmware from a script on that session, and having it do an strace (tracks all system calls) and grep for "permission denied" messages in the output
[01:47] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: without knowing what file the problem is with, it's hard to guess
[01:47] <TLE> lukaswayne9: how large is your home folder can't you back it up ?
[01:47] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: normally I have to use sudo to make vmware work
[01:47] <soundray> lukaswayne9: first of all, it's best to back up your /home folder. Having said that, you can probably reinstall, resize the old root and have it be mounted as /home, if you make the right choices in the installer.
[01:48] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: okay, then you have not set up VMware properly
[01:48] <ThunderStruck> lukaswayne9: back it up or make a partition for it
[01:48] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: but I don't think sudo is being used to start vmware in the session
[01:48] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: okay, what should I have done?
[01:48] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: VMware when installed properly will work as any user that has permission to the directory where the virtual hard drive is (which should be owned by your user)
[01:48] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: so the problem is that I used sudo to install it?
[01:48] <soundray> lukaswayne9: you might try un-wrecking your root partition, too...
[01:49] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: VMware does need to be installed as root, but for running it, it should just be your user, not root (sudo will run it as root)
[01:49] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: just chown the directory that has the virtual hard drive to your user, and then try running it as that user again
[01:49] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: I've already done that
[01:49] <lukaswayne9> soundray: Yeah, maybe.  I'm running edgy, so things are pretty fubar
[01:50] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: all the files in the directory ?
[01:50] <soundray> lukaswayne9: oh. Have you tried #ubuntu+1 ?
[01:50] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: yeah, but let me try it again, sometimes subdirectories escape the recursion
[01:50] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: as your user, can you cd to the directory and less the files ?
[01:50] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: it might be a parent directory you do not have permission to
[01:50] <MikeyMike> hey soundray would you just resize /dev/hda1/ in this image to install ubuntu ? http://xs103.xs.to/xs103/06286/Screenshot.png
[01:51] <lukaswayne9> soundray: Eh, I'm not really that concerned in fixing it.  I've got another dapper machine and a live CD.
[01:51] <eddie_nX> hey
[01:51] <morrolan> How do I install a Windows game using Wine? Wine in 5.04 had GUI to help get set up - now I just don't know what I'm doing
[01:51] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: yes, I can. all files are owned by my user
[01:51] <lukaswayne9> soundray: Stuff will probably get fixed around Knot 1, so I might just wait out
[01:51] <Samus_Aran> can someone tell me what package /etc/init.d/postfix comes from ?
[01:51] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: and there are no subdirectories
[01:52] <eddie_nX> i just installed ubunto and i set my username to root oops but i figured on using the default root account now i try to login (after first reboot) and it says cant login admin from this screen
[01:52] <Samus_Aran> morrolan: if you don't get any answers in here, or on the Ubuntu Wiki, try asking in the official WINE channel: #WineHQ
[01:52] <morrolan> Thanks
[01:53] <soundray> MikeyMike: sounds like a reasonable proposition. I would do it differently, though -- I'd back up the contents of hda2 and hda3, then delete them and have the extended partition cover the whole of the disk space beyond the resized hda1.
[01:53] <eddie_nX> so how do i login or do i have to re-install... also I tried cnt alt bksp and tried logining in from the other screen
[01:53] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: when you run "vmware" from the console, as your user, you should see any permission denied messages
[01:53] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: without using sudo
[01:53] <MikeyMike> soundray: why? and i dont think hda2 and hda3 can be deleted.. how can i tell whats actually on them?
[01:54] <MikeyMike> if you dont mind me asking that is.......
[01:54] <zcat[1] > eddie_nX: if you only just installed, reinstalling is probably easiest..
[01:54] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: ah hah! it's the .vmware directory that escaped my chown
[01:54] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: ah, good.  hopefully that's all
[01:54] <soundray> eddie_nX: hmm, interesting... you could try booting in recovery mode, add a new user and add that user to all relevant groups. Might be easier to reinstall, though.
[01:55] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: once you have it running fine as your user, it should also work under the login session
[01:55] <eddie_nX> but im curious i guess root cant login and run xwindows (or ubuntu)
[01:55] <Toba> how can I tell what linux kernel I'll be running when I reboot
[01:55] <Toba> it upgraded my kernel but I don't know what to
[01:55] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: it's kind of a neat idea to have VMware as a login session, heh
[01:55] <zcat[1] > someone should file a bug, the installer shouldn't let you use 'root' as the first nonroot account name :)
[01:55] <soundray> MikeyMike: the way it is, if you resize hda1 and create new partitions in the space you gain, you get a strange ordering of primary partitions that some systems (not Linux) might have issues with.
[01:56] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: now it doesn't show me errors, but it still doesn't show Windows XP in the list of Virtual Machines
[01:56] <eddie_nX> lol
[01:56] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: are you aware that you can tell VMware to automatically launch a particular session fullscreened ?  then it wouldn't load up the GUI and it would seem just like booting into it
[01:56] <eddie_nX> yeah thats odd
[01:56] <eddie_nX> if it piled a username onto root
[01:56] <Lord_Athur> Is there a channel about partners?
[01:56] <MikeyMike> soundray: would XP have issues with it?
[01:56] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: yes, that's what I'm going for
[01:56] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: you were running as root before, and now as your user.  probably it has just forgotten the session
[01:56] <eddie_nX> lol so normally can you login to console as root and then start x
[01:56] <soundray> MikeyMike: I don't know -- you'd have to ask someone who uses XP...
[01:56] <MikeyMike> soundray:  ha ha :D
[01:56] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: just go to "File > Open session", or whatever it is called, and go to the virtual hard drive
[01:57] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: it should add it to the list after that
[01:57] <soundray> eddie_nX: no, normally you can't login as root at all on ubuntu.
[01:57] <zcat[1] > I have no idea.. but I'd guess it failed to make a login at all since root is already used, and probably hasn't set a password anywhere
[01:57] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: it said unable to add virtual machine, permission denied
[01:57] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: what showed up on the console ?
[01:58] <eddie_nX> but ur normal user account would be able to make system changes essentially like a root user would?
[01:58] <zcat[1] > !sudo
[01:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:58] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: nothing
[01:58] <eddie_nX> ahh ok
[01:58] <soundray> eddie_nX: yes: the first one you create can run admin programs, and any other user you create and equip with the appropriate privileges after that.
[01:59] <eddie_nX> Im used to more uh linux-like linux lol would kubunto be more like redhat ?
[01:59] <zcat[1] > redhat would be more like redhat :)
[01:59] <eddie_nX> with the kde enviroment
[01:59] <zcat[1] > kubuntu is more like ubuntu with kde on top.
[01:59] <soundray> eddie_nX: no, it follows the same sudo philosophy. Do read those web pages, though. It's very easy and advantageous to get used to the Ubuntu way of doing things.
[02:00] <Frankenstein> whats wrong with installing ubuntu and than selecting the kde packages?
[02:00] <eddie_nX> and ubunto is essentially linux or is it a different os altogether?
[02:00] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: I guess try running it through strace so you can see what it is erroring on
[02:00] <notamisfit> yes ubuntu is linux
[02:00] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: correction, it said no permission to perform this operation
[02:00] <notamisfit> gnu/linux that is
[02:00] <Frankenstein> ubuntu is based of debian hence the apt-get
[02:00] <soundray> eddie_nX: Linux is the kernel at the heart of Ubuntu.
[02:00] <zcat[1] > Frankenstein: nothing wrong with it.. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and you get basically kubuntu.
[02:00] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: strace -f vmware 2>&1 | grep -i permission
[02:00] <Frankenstein> :)
[02:00] <Lord_Athur> what's the webpage of the contactCode?
[02:00] <Frankenstein> anyway, i have a question!
[02:01] <Samus_Aran> eddie_nX: Ubuntu is a "distro" (distribution) or "flavour" of GNU/Linux
[02:01] <Frankenstein> my FireFox cant seem to produce sound through any flash objects! like the youtube players etc... im running drapper with latest software etc... my soundcard is onboard and works with XMMS, gaim, and the lot
[02:02] <Samus_Aran> Frankenstein: try running firefox through a terminal, and see if any errors appear there
[02:02] <notamisfit> p4c0, good to hear
[02:02] <zcat[1] >  11:58:04 up 1 day, 56 min,  4 users,  load average: 11.91, 11.71, 9.73
[02:02] <Frankenstein> ok one seccond Samus_Aran
[02:02] <eddie_nX> ok well im not discouraged yet I will reinstall and start learnin'
[02:02] <Samus_Aran> Frankenstein: do you have more than one soundcard ?  it might be trying to use the wrong one
[02:02] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: wow, that slows things down like crazy
[02:02] <eddie_nX> thanks ppl
[02:02] <zcat[1] > damn java-vm !
[02:02] <Frankenstein> Samus_Aran, just one
[02:02] <ThunderStruck> its a known issue
[02:03] <notamisfit> disregard last, wrong channel
[02:03] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: yes, it will slow it down.  if you didn't use the grep, you would see every system call the program made ... thousands upon thousands
[02:03] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: yeah, grep is cool like that
[02:03] <Lighty> I need some help with xorg configuration. I can't get the Screen Resolution dialog to allow me to change resolutions.
[02:04] <edju> Tried to install ubuntu off the live cd - but at the first screen, set the time zone, there is no "next" or "continue" or "OK" - so, where to go from there?
[02:04] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: word of advice, do not ever run "strace" on the terminal app you're currently running, heh.  it goes into a crazy loop trying to display the system calls into the terminal, which produces more system calls .. etc.
[02:04] <Frankenstein> nope, no errors when started from the terminal!
[02:04] <sam_> how do you install kde under ubuntu?
[02:04] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: I actually had it lock up my X server a couple years ago when I tried it, heh
[02:04] <zcat[1] > Frankenstein: I think flash uses audio directly, and might be conflicting with esd... kill esd or set it to free up the card quicker (not sure where to do that)
[02:04] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: sounds like fun!
[02:04] <Samus_Aran> sam_: apt-get install kde
[02:04] <ThunderStruck> Samus_Aran: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <VirusDotNET> hey how can i cancel this thing. it keeps trying to reconnect
[02:04] <sam_> ta
[02:05] <soundray> sam_: hold on...
[02:05] <Samus_Aran> ThunderStruck: okay.  I just clicked on a couple KDE apps in Synaptic and it did the rest, heh
[02:05] <id10t> 'lo... how can i control what device to record sound from? i've got a usb cam (works) with mic  as well as my normal sound card with mic...
[02:05] <Frankenstein> esd?
[02:05] <zcat[1] > there might also be a way to make flash use esd... but not sure
[02:05] <Frankenstein> and what DC C thing? :P
[02:05] <soundray> sam_: if you want a complete kde environment, install kubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <skavenge> if gnome is installed and you run that install kubuntu-desktop does it replace gnome?
[02:05] <ThunderStruck> skavenge: no
[02:05] <Samus_Aran> id10t: if you're using ALSA, open up "alsamixer" in a terminal and then press Tab to cycle through the screens.  one is to choose what the input device is for recording
[02:06] <VirusDotNET> how can i cancel this reconnecting installing of this application ?
[02:06] <yipe> compiling.... compiling.... still compiling...
[02:06] <ThunderStruck> Frankenstein: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for non-ubuntu support
[02:06] <skavenge> ThunderStruck: is there a way to make it? Can I have a seperate user using kde?
[02:06] <yipe> someday I will have a kernel
[02:06] <id10t> Samus_Aran, thanks... its just an apt-get install away :)
[02:06] <zcat[1] > skavenge: you get boot and can choose which desktop you want at login
[02:06] <sam_> will installing kde under ubuntu not give a 'complete kde' alternative
[02:06] <zcat[1] > *both
[02:06] <sam_> or will it just be part of kde
[02:06] <Frankenstein> ThunderStruck, this IS ubuntu support....
[02:06] <soundray> yipe: in the days of 386 CPUs it took a weekend to compile a kernel
[02:06] <ThunderStruck> skavenge: dont know about seperate users but that still wouldnt replace gnome
[02:06] <Samus_Aran> id10t: in the main screen you can turn on or off whether your speakers will be playing back the audio from the mic.  usually you will want to mute that, otherwise you can get really nasty feedback loops
[02:06] <ThunderStruck> Frankenstein: the dcc exploit is not
[02:06] <Frankenstein> that was a joke
[02:07] <Frankenstein> anyway! i killall'd esd and still not working im afraid
[02:07] <s1gnal> hi, how do I open a serial port that has a device attached to it? similar to the way I would connect to something using hyperterm in windows for example?
[02:07] <skavenge> last time in breezy when i tried installing kde and gnome both window managers apps were in each others menus .. i remember kde apps in gnome menu at least, pretty messy
[02:07] <sam_> How do you get dvd support under ubuntu?
[02:07] <yipe> um, am I mistaken or am I ON a 386 machine?
[02:07] <soundray> skavenge: in the gdm login window, you can set a per-user preference for kde or gnome
[02:07] <sam_> and mp3 etc
[02:07] <Samus_Aran> id10t: one thing to note is that every soundcard has different labels in alsamixer, this is unfortunately due to the fact that they just take the names straight off the soundcard, and don't try to translate them into something sensible (as happens with a Windows soundcard driver), so the mixer items often have very random names
[02:07] <Frankenstein> sigh, ill just go to firefox support
[02:07] <Frankenstein> thanks
[02:08] <ThunderStruck> !mp3 > sam_
[02:08] <zcat[1] > yipe: i386 archetecture, probably a 686 chip.
[02:08] <yipe> yeah....
[02:08] <ThunderStruck> sam_ read your pm to find out more
[02:08] <skavenge> soundray: ill try that thnx
[02:08] <yipe> I just wanted to be difficult
[02:08] <ScurveyFrog> sam_: the only way is illegal, Automatix will do it for you
[02:08] <Samus_Aran> id10t: so for example my soundcard has "IEC958 AC97 1" as one of the mixer items I need to use for microphone (at least I think that was my mic one)
[02:08] <id10t> Samus_Aran, anything i can do in /etc to control what gets what?  i'd be happy if i could just explicity assign the mic on my webcam /dev/dsp6 or something "silly" and be done
[02:08] <ThunderStruck> ScurveyFrog: thats not true
[02:08] <raxor> hi all, I am trying to dual-boot with an XP install on hda and ubuntu on hdb. I have modified my boot.ini to add an entry that points to an ubuntu.bin file I created using dd, but it will not run grub-- anyone know about these things?
[02:08] <ScurveyFrog> sam_: but it's illegal in the US
[02:09] <soundray> yipe: you've succeeded admirably
[02:09] <ScurveyFrog> ThunderStruck: what would be the legal way?
[02:09] <raptros-v76> yipe: you always want to be difficult
[02:09] <zcat[1] > most people are on i386, a few use amd64 and very few use powerPC
[02:09] <dxdemetriou> can I change somehow my xorg.conf to start the x11 in ctrl-alt-f7 for the monitor and in ctrl-alt-f9 for tv?
[02:09] <yipe> hey raptros-v76, and yes, yes I do
[02:09] <Samus_Aran> id10t: unfortunately, each audio app has its own method of choosing the soundcard it uses for input and/or output, so you'll need to set it in your recording application
[02:09] <sam_> ta
[02:09] <ThunderStruck> ScurveyFrog: there first is _no_ legal way and sencond everything you need is in multiverse repos and can get with apt
[02:09] <sam_> why is it illegal to play mp3s?
[02:09] <yipe> which is probably why I'm banned from offtopic AGAIN
[02:10] <ThunderStruck> sam_: its not if you pay for them
[02:10] <yipe> that and sev has emotional problems:P
[02:10] <notamisfit> sam_ : mp3 is patent-encumbered and requires royalties
[02:10] <Samus_Aran> id10t: if the app is using OSS emulation (usually older apps), then it will use /dev/dsp by default, which will be a symlink to the OSS emulation of the first soundcard driver that was loaded
[02:10] <id10t> Samus_Aran, right... be alot easier if i knew webcam was always /dev/dsp6
[02:10] <soundray> sam_: don't listen. Playing mp3s does not require paying royalties.
[02:10] <Samus_Aran> id10t: for ALSA based audio, there are items in /dev/snd/
[02:10] <yipe> when did it become illegal to not like someone?
[02:10] <ThunderStruck> yipe: _never_ talk about anyone like that
[02:11] <ScurveyFrog> soundray: I wasn't talking about mp3's, he asked about DVDs
[02:11] <ThunderStruck> yipe: to not like and to be offtopic and to talk about people is different
[02:11] <crimsun> id10t: you can tell a usb audio device to never be card 0, though.
[02:11] <Lighty> I can't get the Screen Resolution dialog to allow me to change resolutions even though /etc/X11/xorg.conf has multiple defined.
[02:11] <soundray> sam_: developing an mp3 player does require payments to the Fraunhofer Gesellschaft in some legislatures.
[02:11] <crimsun> id10t: where "never" means "prefer any other device before this one"
[02:11] <zcat[1] > In NZ, DVDCSS and region coding are an illegal restraint of trade. Bypassing them is completely allowed.
[02:12] <id10t> crimsun, that would work... of course, i guess i could just pull out the sound card and just have the usb ...
[02:12] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: go to a terminal and type in: xrandr
[02:12] <Madpilot> zcat[1] , damn, I'm moving to NZ :)
[02:12] <crimsun> id10t: do you only have those two devices to use?
[02:12] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: that will show you the available modes.  you can try switching them with a command like: xrandr -s 1600x1200
[02:13] <yipe> Madpilot, you'll love it in NZ
[02:13] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: after waiting a long time, it came back with an error: VMWare server is not running
[02:13] <zcat[1] > we still have stupid laws about mp3's.. copying your CD's to your ipod is still illegal. Duh!
[02:13] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: that was within vmware
[02:13] <id10t> crimsun, yup. and the pci sound card is optional for what i'm using this machine for...
[02:13] <crimsun> id10t: then you can use: echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/snd-usb-audio
[02:13] <SurfnKid> armagetron yeeea
[02:13] <Szczepan1990> do you want sex??????
[02:13] <SurfnKid> yes please
[02:13] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: the strace came back with some errors about /dev/mem and /dev/parport0
[02:13] <Szczepan1990> oral, anal :)
[02:13] <Szczepan1990> ;)
[02:13] <zcat[1] > yes, but not with you!
[02:13] <SurfnKid> mmm
[02:13] <crimsun> id10t: that way your pci card will always be 0, and your usb will be 1
[02:14] <SurfnKid> nevermind ill gget back to my game
[02:14] <Szczepan1990> oh, fuck of
[02:14] <crimsun> um
[02:14] <SurfnKid> !language
[02:14] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:14] <raptros-v76> blarg
[02:14] <crimsun> can we take the off-topic to ...-offtopic?
[02:14] <sam_> say if i wanted to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg how would i go about it...im new as!
[02:14] <Szczepan1990> :D
[02:14] <SurfnKid> sam_, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[02:14] <soundray> Go again Madpilot, please
[02:14] <sam_> I tried that but it cant find it
[02:15] <zcat[1] > open up synaptic, search for the package, click the install checkbog, click the 'just do it' button.. (apply, I think) and wait.
[02:15] <soundray> Madpilot: oh, I've been pawned ;)
[02:15] <SurfnKid> sam_, search gstreamer in Synaptic, itll find it
[02:15] <NthDegree> sam_ try gksudo synaptic
[02:15] <sam_> ta
[02:15] <NthDegree> then have a look on there
[02:15] <SurfnKid> yw
[02:15] <dash`> how do I update java on breezy?
[02:15] <zcat[1] > might have to add universe and multiverse first
[02:15] <SurfnKid> !java
[02:15] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:15] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: well, I need to go. it's time to get off work. I'll try again later
[02:16] <zcat[1] > !codecs
[02:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:16] <SurfnKid> i gotta run
[02:16] <SurfnKid> bbl
[02:16] <NthDegree> sam_ you may want to enable universe and multiverse repositories to get the full list of software
[02:16] <damion_> how do i mount my sony psp to ubuntu
[02:16] <Talisker> How do I get the damn thing to play .rm files?
[02:16] <weakwire> hi  i run xgl and when i play video my cpu goes 80 %...also when i get for instance to play glest i get this.:Exception: Your system supports OpenGL version "1.2 (2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.62)"
[02:16] <weakwire> Glest needs at least version 1.3 to work
[02:16] <weakwire> .what can i do?
[02:16] <zcat[1] > Talisker: w32codecs
[02:16] <peesquad> Ubuntu is the worst Linux distro ever
[02:16] <Talisker> I already got them
[02:16] <DBO> yay netsplit
[02:17] <soundray> Talisker: not by swearing. Read about restricted formats:
[02:17] <soundray> !restricted
[02:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <zcat[1] > then mplayer should handle rm files...
[02:17] <dash`> I just was getting an error that a program cannot be used because I have an older version of java
[02:17] <raxor_> !grub
[02:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:17] <zcat[1] > not all players use w32codecs.. mplayer does though
[02:17] <yipe> someone please squash peesquad like a bug please
[02:17] <SurfnKid> yea sure peewhacked
[02:17] <Talisker> This guy was just k-lined for saying Ubuntu sucks?
[02:17] <ThunderStruck> he got k-lined
[02:17] <soundray> Talisker: and consider installing realplayer from the nonstandard repos -- read easysource
[02:17] <SurfnKid> i disagree totally
[02:17] <soundray> !easysource
[02:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:17] <ThunderStruck> Talisker: no
[02:17] <ThunderStruck> Talisker: it was for the dcc exploit
[02:18] <p33squad> still Ubuntu is the worst Linux distro ever and your channel is pwned anyways :)
[02:18] <yipe> Talisker, right after he said that he sent out the DCC exploit and knocked a whole bunch of people done, that was an attack not a netsplit
[02:18] <SurfnKid> someone stop playing with the fiber optic backbone please
[02:18] <damion_> hello is there a way to mount a psp to ubuntu
[02:18] <SurfnKid> =] 
[02:18] <Talisker> !restricted
[02:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:19] <zcat[1] > nice 'sploit!!
[02:19] <Madpilot> yipe, please be careful saying "D C C" in channel - thanks
[02:19] <Talisker> THe restricted page is not much help
[02:19] <yipe> even the word causes problems? I didn't know that, sorry
[02:19] <soundray> Talisker: EasyUbuntu is another good one -- not sure if the current version helps you install realplayer, but anyway...
[02:19] <soundray> !easyubuntu
[02:19] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:19] <raptros-v76> yipe: wtf happened to me?
[02:19] <Lord_Athur> hi all, I need some help with openPGP, is there anybody available to help me, please?
[02:19] <zcat[1] > what software is being killed by 'delta charlie charlie' ?
[02:19] <sharms2> !tell Lord_Athur about anyone
[02:20] <yipe> raptros-v76, peesquad is attacking the channel right now
[02:20] -lilo:#ubuntu- Hi all. IF you were just disconnected, you were the victim of an exploit for netgear and linksys routers.
[02:20] <SurfnKid> i see someone is playing with the server, that sucks
[02:20] <raxor_> whoa
[02:20] <Madpilot> SurfnKid, no, it's a router level thing - some consumer routers are very, very stupid
[02:20] <yipe> raptros-v76, RUN! We're under attack from the D-C See monster!
[02:20] -lilo:#ubuntu- Please reconnect to freenode via server chat.freenode.net, port 8001 (instead of the default port, 6667), to avoid further problems.
[02:20] <Talisker> What does that mean?
[02:20] <nalioth> yipe: behave please
[02:20] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, dont tell me that, i thought this was all behind a big cisco :P
[02:21] <nalioth> Talisker: what does what mean?
[02:21] <raptros-v76> ok where do i change the port in xchat?
[02:21] <Talisker> "Your sources.list does not match your system configuration"
[02:21] <nalioth> raptros-v76: in your server prefs
[02:21] <raptros-v76> nalioth: thanks
[02:21] <Madpilot> SurfnKid, not Freenode's routers - the basic consumer ones lots of people have in their houses
[02:21] <zcat[1] > Talisker: apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade  perhaps?
[02:21] <lilo> I'm going to repeat that one
[02:21] -lilo:#ubuntu- Hi all. If you were just disconnected, you were the victim of an exploit for netgear and linksys routers.
[02:21] -lilo:#ubuntu- Please reconnect to freenode via server chat.freenode.net, port 8001 (instead of the default port, 6667), to avoid further problems.
[02:21] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, that causes all this?
[02:21] <Lord_Athur> in the page: https://launchpad.net/people/alejandro-leonvega/+editpgpkeys I could see the command: "gpg --send-key key-id", what does "key-id" meam?
[02:21] <SurfnKid> who's anyones?
[02:22] <nalioth> !dcc
[02:22] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[02:22] <SurfnKid> and behind a netgear wifi
[02:22] <yipe> nalioth what did I do NOW? Everyone is on my case today
[02:22] <lilo> it's also possible that there are Cisco routers with the problem
[02:22] <nalioth> yipe: this is a channel for support, please
[02:22] <SurfnKid> lilo, nasty
[02:22] <yipe> all I was doing is telling raptros-v76 why he was getting repeatedly kicked, because he asked
[02:22] <NthDegree> ] ha i have netgear
[02:23] <NthDegree> just update the firmware no problem
[02:23] <NthDegree> Contents of packet: DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[02:23] <NthDegree> wtf
[02:23] <mikechml> :/
[02:23] <SurfnKid> ?
[02:23] <MikeyMike> how do i mount /dev/sda3 for user mikeymike at /mnt/repository ?
[02:23] <MikeyMike> sda3 is ntf
[02:23] <MikeyMike> ntfs
[02:23] <NthDegree> Received a malformed DCC request from joingmorning
[02:23] <raxor_> MikeyMike: just once or permanently?
[02:24] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, someone's router is sending this automatically then
[02:24] <raptros-v76> i cant fix the port settings!
[02:24] <MikeyMike> just once.. permanently
[02:24] <MikeyMike> lol
[02:24] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell MikeyMike about ntfs
[02:24] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, anyway to find out whos
[02:24] <ThunderStruck> he didnt take the warning
[02:24] -lilo:#ubuntu- Hi all. If you were just disconnected, you were the victim of an exploit for netgear and linksys routers.
[02:24] -lilo:#ubuntu- Please reconnect to freenode via server chat.freenode.net, port 8001 (instead of the default port, 6667), to avoid further problems.
[02:24] <Madpilot> SurfnKid, no, this is being done by an idiot, or a bot owned by an idiot
[02:24] <MikeyMike> raxor for the time being i will settle for temporary mount
[02:24] <SurfnKid> ok
[02:24] <MikeyMike> i can hack my fstab later
[02:24] <SurfnKid> what a retard
[02:24] <jiSh> didnt mess with my router
[02:24] <jiSh> woot :P
[02:24] <Talisker> Heh
[02:24] <Talisker> I feel secure
[02:24] <raxor_> ntfs in read only mode or do you want to use Fuse?
[02:24] <notamisfit> does this happen often?
[02:25] <MikeyMike> read only mode is fine
[02:25] <DBO> notamisfit, not too often no
[02:25] <lilo> notamisfit: not too often, but from time to time
[02:25] <MikeyMike> its like -o username or something but i forgot the commands man
[02:25] <raptros-v76> ok this should fix it i guess
[02:25] <jiSh> stupid little kids and their "cracking" skills
[02:25] <zcat[1] > ........
[02:25] <lilo> raptros-v76: port 8001?
[02:25] <lilo> raptros-v76: that should do it for now
[02:25] <wenko> im so tired of these cptcc messages
[02:25] <soundray> DBO: even once is too often, don't you think?
[02:25] <raptros-v76> lilo: how do i do it in xchat?
[02:25] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: (xorg question, remember?) xrandr only listed one resolution, but I have 5 each for 2 different depths in xorg.conf.
[02:25] <lilo> raptros-v76: you should also look at your router manufacturer's firmware upgrade pages
[02:26] <lilo> raptros-v76: hmmm....look at the server list, at the server you're connecting to now....I don't have xchat....wait, maybe I do have it handy
[02:26] <lilo> go to the xchat server list menu item, probably off the File menu
[02:26] <calc> does libxine no longer play mp3 files?
[02:26] <soundray> nalioth: please redo with one less 'e'
[02:26] <raptros-v76> lilo i think ive fixed it,
[02:26] <lilo> there should be an entry for freenode, you edit it
[02:26] <lilo> raptros-v76: cool
[02:26] <raptros-v76> only one way to find out
[02:27] <Lighty> Non-standard, it's irc.freenode.net/8001 (instead of a ':') in XChat.
[02:27] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: that means that there was something wrong with those resolutions for your current monitor.  the two most likely causes, which are actually the same: 1) Xorg can't detect your monitor sync rates, or 2) your monitor was off when Xorg was loaded, which causes autodetection to fail, go to 1
[02:27] <nalioth> soundray: huh?
[02:27] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: if your monitor was on, and it still is not letting you use modes that you know your monitor is capable of, you may need to enter your monitors horizontal and vertical sync numbers into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:28] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Already done.
[02:28] <soundray> nalioth: ignore me. I meant a mutation that Nth... used in the username, but it was irrelevant, apparently.
[02:28] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: then you will need to look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why it was unable to use the modes in question
[02:28] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I've got modelines in there for all five resolutions.
[02:28] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Darn it! Why do I never remember to check the logs! :-)
[02:28] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the most common one is "sync out of range", which is what I just described, but there are others
[02:29] <Talisker> sudo
[02:29] <Talisker> Err.. I still get this error
[02:29] <Talisker> "Your sources.list does not match your system configuration."
[02:29] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know what package provides /etc/init.d/postfix ?  it is not "postfix", as one would presume
[02:29] <raxor_> sorry MikeyMike, one more second
[02:30] <Samus_Aran> I am unable to install postfix, as it can't find this file
[02:30] <MikeyMike> ok
[02:30] <raxor_> MikeyMike, one user or all users?
[02:30] <MikeyMike> just me
[02:30] <MikeyMike> user mikeymike
[02:30] <Talisker> Where are the system configurations that my sources.list should match?
[02:30] <raxor_> I think you have to add a group
[02:30] <MikeyMike> /dev/sda3
[02:30] <Talisker> I always thought that sources.list IS a part of my system configuration
[02:31] <MikeyMike> raxor_: i thought it was like o i username
[02:31] <MikeyMike> or something like that
[02:31] <Eleaf> no exploition
[02:31] <Eleaf> okay.
[02:31] <raxor_> hmm
[02:31] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: which video driver are you using for your Xorg server ?
[02:31] <Lighty> nvidia
[02:31] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: nvidia (sorry, forgot nick)
[02:32] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the binary driver or "nv" that comes with Xorg ?  I had a lot of problems using nv for certain modes (e.g. 1280x1024), but they all work for me with the binary driver
[02:32] <raxor_> all users is : /dev/sda3 /media/share ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0002 0 0
[02:32] <nalioth> Samus_Aran: use apt-file
[02:32] <Talisker> !w32codecs
[02:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:32] <nalioth> !apt-file
[02:32] <raxor_> looking for the other
[02:32] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you in which package you can find the files you look for. sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[02:32] <MikeyMike> raxor_: why mask?
[02:32] <Samus_Aran> nalioth: hm, never heard of that one
[02:32] <raxor_> gah
[02:32] <raxor_> umask=0222
[02:32] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: No. The actual nvidia driver. I play World of Warcraft via Cedega and nv drivers weren't good enough.
[02:32] <MikeyMike> replace umask=0002 with umask=0222
[02:32] <Samus_Aran> nalioth: it doesn't exist on my system, is that something that should be installed, or is it an option to apt-cache or something ?
[02:33] <soundray> Samus_Aran: that's strange... postfix does provide /etc/init.d/postfix
[02:33] <MikeyMike> replace umask=0002 with umask=0222 ??
[02:33] <raxor_> right
[02:33] <MikeyMike> ok
[02:33] <SurfnKid> ok finally
[02:33] <raxor_> I think that is the read only bit
[02:33] <soundray> Samus_Aran: sudo apt-get install apt-file ; sudo apt-file update
[02:33] <SonicvanaJr> Lighty is Cedega a monthly fee ?
[02:33] <raxor_> I am looking for the users bit
[02:33] <nalioth> Samus_Aran: yes, you can install it
[02:33] <Heretician> Can I burn an Ubuntu iso to a DVD-R?
[02:33] <raxor_> I did this *once* :)
[02:33] <Dark_Knight_209> Anyone have experience setting up nvidia drivers?
[02:33] <Heretician> *** need this answer quickly so i know if i should take this back
[02:33] <Heretician> think i got the wrong thing
[02:33] <Heretician> but i'm not completely sure
[02:33] <Lighty> SonicvanaJr: $5 per month but I think they have a trial so you can make sure your game works
[02:33] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: okay, then in your log file it should have a line that says "(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:"
[02:33] <soundray> Samus_Aran: do a 'sudo touch /etc/init.d/postfix', then try to install again. Failing that, do a 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:33] <DosBubba> How can I modify my Windows toward Ubuntu?
[02:34] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, is this on the entire server? or just this chan
[02:34] <Samus_Aran> Heretician: yes
[02:34] <SurfnKid> DosBubba, reformat :P hehe jk
[02:34] <Heretician> okay
[02:34] <Madpilot> SurfnKid, no idea - but this channel gets trageted regularly :|
[02:34] <Samus_Aran> Heretician: you can even burn a floppy diskette image to a DVD
[02:34] <soundray> DosBubba: do you want to end up with a dual-boot system?
[02:34] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, :/
[02:34] <Heretician> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:34] <Lighty> SonicvanaJr: Note that Cedega is only a build on top of wine to try to add DirectX routines that wine didn't have. But wine's catching up and it's all free.
[02:34] <DosBubba> SurfnKid, What? I just want to use Ubuntu so I can play my games faster.
[02:34] <Heretician> from that site?
[02:34] <Samus_Aran> Heretician: as far as PC BIOSes are concerned, they are all the same
[02:34] <Heretician> er
[02:34] <Heretician> that link
[02:34] <raxor_> MikeyMike: you can sudo mount -a so you don't have to reboot
[02:34] <ax7> hi
[02:34] <cyberfr0g> sup?
[02:34] <Heretician> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso :)
[02:34] <SurfnKid> DosBubba, if you have an extra partition spare on your main drive, you can install Ubuntu and keep your exisiting NT partition
[02:35] <MikeyMike> yeah im really trying to do this without rebooting
[02:35] <MikeyMike> lol
[02:35] <Samus_Aran> Heretician: for example, I installed the Ubuntu 6.06 CD image to a 4.37GiB DVD, as I don't own CD-Rs anymore
[02:35] <soundray> DosBubba: ubuntu is not for playing games faster
[02:35] <Heretician> cool
[02:35] <Heretician> time to run ubuntu
[02:35] <DosBubba> soundray, Why would anyone use this then?
[02:35] <ax7> tell me
[02:35] <Talisker> oKtosiTe, I did a dist-upgrade, and a fix, I got the newest w32 codecs, and I still can't watch the RM files
[02:35] <raxor_> okay MikeyMike: this might work
[02:35] <cyberfr0g> confidential
[02:35] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Only "1600x1200" is shown on the Validated modes: line. :-(
[02:35] <SurfnKid> ok bbl
[02:35] <SurfnKid> gotta hit the mall
[02:35] <raxor_> (1) sudo addgroup ntfs
[02:35] <raxor_> (note the id
[02:35] <raxor_> )
[02:35] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: can you send me your xorg.conf file so I can take a quick look ?  might be something obvious
[02:36] <sharms2> Talisker: install realplayer
[02:36] <sharms2> !realplayer
[02:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:36] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I haven't IRC'd in *years*. What's the recommended method to send stuff nowadays. I'm on XChat.
[02:36] <raxor_> (2) modify fstab: /dev/sda3 /media/share ntfs nls=utf8,gid=1001,umask=0222 0 0
[02:37] <raxor_> note that gid=xxxx where xxxx is the group Id for ntfs
[02:37] <MikeyMike> ok i got it
[02:37] <grphx> Hello, I am having some trouble here,
[02:37] <MikeyMike> thanks :)
[02:37] <MikeyMike> its mounted
[02:37] <raxor_> (3) sudo adduser username ntfs
[02:37] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: it seems to me that Ubuntu does not have all the codecs available for MPlayer/Xine that are actually out there.  I ended up just unpacking the codecs from mplayer's web site to play the few remaining ones that wouldn't work, like WMV9
[02:37] <raxor_> the other steps I was giving just limited it to your "username"
[02:37] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: /dcc send Samus_Aran /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:37] <grphx> Using Rom2.4 trying to start up this mud and I get the following error..   bash: ./startup: /bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory    when i type ./startup &
[02:38] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: and hope that you're not blocked by a firewall
[02:38] <Talisker> Samus_Aran, thanks
[02:38] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: DCC command entered. Waiting...
[02:38] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: darn, you're behind an unintelligent firewall
[02:38] <soundray> grphx: try 'sudo apt-get install csh'
[02:39] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I can config it.
[02:39] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Unless it's a dynamic port, I suppose. :-)
[02:39] <TRoGDoR5050> I'm having trouble with ndiswrapper, can anybody help me?  I have the Linksys WMP54GS.  I've already followed these directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:39] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: it sent me your internal IP address.  do you use a software firewall (iptables, etc.) or do you have a router ?
[02:39] <grphx> soundray: Gave me this..   Reading package lists... Done
[02:39] <grphx> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:39] <grphx> E: Couldn't find package csh
[02:39] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: you'll need to set X-
[02:40] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Router. DLink DI-624.
[02:40] <grphx> This is getting irritating.. heh
[02:40] <Talisker> Samus_Aran, could you maybe send me the pack? Mplayerhq doesn't want to load
[02:40] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: oops, hit enter. X-Chat to use a particular range of ports, then forward those.  if your router supports transparent DCC's, you can probably just set your external IP address inside X-Chat
[02:40] <soundray> grphx: okay, you need to learn about installing extra packages on Ubuntu. Check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions
[02:40] <TRoGDoR5050> Anyone?
[02:40] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: I have one from a couple weeks ago.  one sec
[02:41] <grphx> soundray: okay, thanks. I will get back to you in a bit.. =)
[02:41] <zcat[1] > Samus_Aran: woudn;t pasetbin be easier ? :-)
[02:41] <Talisker> thanks
[02:41] <zcat[1] > *pastebin
[02:41] <Talisker> Do it using Dee See Sea
[02:41] <Talisker> :)
[02:41] <soundray> grphx: I won't be here, but there's plenty of helpful people on this channel.
[02:41] <TRoGDoR5050> I'm having trouble with ndiswrapper, can anybody help me? I have the Linksys WMP54GS. I've already followed these directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:41] <raptros-v76> ok has that ****er gone away
[02:41] <linuxuser> getting a error msg while trying to start pan newsreader as follows fptools.c:455: _FP_fgets: Assertion `*buf' failed.  any ideas?
[02:41] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Trying again.
[02:42] <loststar4545> to compile something  i do 1. ./configure 2. make 3. Make install
[02:42] <loststar4545> ?
[02:42] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: what video player do you use ?  I know these codecs work for all the Xine and MPlayer based players
[02:42] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: you will probably need to reconnect to FreeNode after changing settings
[02:42] <Talisker> mplayer/vlc
[02:42] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: it's still showing me the internal IP, tre reconnecting
[02:42] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Reconnecting. :-)
[02:42] <grphx> Anyone know what all packaged should be needed to run ROM2.4 under ubuntu?
[02:43] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: you need to be more specific about your problem.
[02:43] <TRoGDoR5050> Alright, let me try again
[02:43] <linuxuser> getting a error msg while trying to start pan newsreader as follows fptools.c:455: _FP_fgets: Assertion `*buf' failed.  any ideas?
[02:43] <linuxuser> in dapper drake
[02:43] <darth_gimp> what is the best way to access a RAR archive?
[02:43] <linuxuser> darth: unrar
[02:43] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: okay, for MPlayer you can either dump all those codecs into the system codec dir, or you can run the video in MPlayer from a terminal, and it will tell you what codec it is trying to load, then just copy that one individual codec
[02:44] <darth_gimp> I installed "ARK" but it says "unrar is not in your PATH"
[02:44] <Samus_Aran> darth_gimp: Shareware RAR and open source UnRAR support extracting from RAR files, your choice
[02:44] <soundray> !rar
[02:44] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[02:44] <linuxuser> darth did you install unrar?
[02:44] <pdc303> darth_gimp: search for 'unrar' in synaptic
[02:44] <soundray> darth_gimp: ^^
[02:44] <TRoGDoR5050> I have installed ndiswrapper perfectly, as far as I can tell, and I can get my driver installed fine.  However, when I do modprobe ndiswrapper it says it can't find it.
[02:44] <darth_gimp> on my way
[02:44] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Any better?
[02:45] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: that time it has your IP, but I can't connect.  probably the port isn't open
[02:45] <darth_gimp> I guess I thought that ARK would have done that..
[02:45] <linuxuser> dapper drake just seems to cause me all sorts of problems
[02:45] <Talisker> Where is the system codec dir?
[02:46] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the way DCC connections work is backware from regular connections.  if you want to send me a file, you send me a DCC Request over the IRC server (like a private message), and if I accept the request, I try to connect directly to your IRC client over the Internet, using the IP provided.  so it is people behind firewalls that can't send, rather than can't receive
[02:46] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: OK. Give me a couple of minutes. I appreciate your patience. I've wanted to get DCC working too for another channel I just started using.
[02:46] <Samus_Aran> *backward
[02:46] <lig> how do I find out what versions of PHP are available?  I tried sudo apt-get install php5.1.4 for the latest version but no go.
[02:46] <TRoGDoR5050> lig: Use synaptic.
[02:47] <raptros-v76> who is sharms?
[02:47] <Samus_Aran> lig: perhaps "apt-cache search php | less" or use synaptic
[02:47] <lig> Thanks
[02:47] <Samus_Aran> lig: the way Ubuntu and Debian normally work is there is one package for "the most current release", and other packages for older versions, which are numbered
[02:47] <darth_gimp> ok do I need to do a system re-start after getting unrar through synaptic?
[02:48] <soundray> darth_gimp: no
[02:48] <darth_gimp> I still get the same error...
[02:48] <TRoGDoR5050> darth_gimp: You're using Linux! You don't reboot!
[02:48] <Talisker> Samus_Aran, where is the codec dir?
[02:48] <darth_gimp> unrar not in path
[02:48] <lig> Samus_Aran, so just getting php should get me version 5.1.4?
[02:48] <Samus_Aran> reboot only for kernel upgrades, and getting past nVIDIA binary driver problems
[02:48] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: did you use 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'?
[02:48] <zcat[1] > reboots are only for kernel upgrades...
[02:48] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray:Yes I did.
[02:48] <Lord_Athur> in the launchapad context, what's karma?
[02:49] <darth_gimp> So how do I get into this archive?
[02:49] <Trae> If I already have 2 SATA drives and 2 IDE CD drives on a machine would it be a bad idea (power drain wise) to stick say two more SATA drives on the same box?  Also, do most pci SATA cards work out of the box with Ubuntu?
[02:49] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: strange. Try a 'sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'
[02:49] <zcat[1] > pop a terminal and 'rar x foo.rar'  probably
[02:49] <TRoGDoR5050> Alright.
[02:50] <darth_gimp> zcat[1] , I don't understand...
[02:50] <Talisker> Samus_Aran, where should I copy these codecs you sent me to?
[02:50] <Samus_Aran> lig: well apparently php wants to prove me wrong, there is "php4" and "php5", for the two branches.  there is no "php" to install the newest one, heh
[02:50] <grphx> is there a command I can type in console to find my ip address?
[02:50] <soundray> Trae: 1) depends on your power supply; 2) yes, most of them do
[02:50] <TRoGDoR5050> BRB I'm in Winblows, I gotta reboot to do anything in Linux :(
[02:50] <meheren> how can you bring all the data from a ext 3 partition into a reiserfs part? nd keep the reiserfs partition type?
[02:50] <darth_gimp> I tried using ARK which is supposed to work with the RAR format but it says "unrar not in path" how do I get unrar in my path?
[02:50] <Trae> soundray, heh
[02:50] <Samus_Aran> lig: apt-get install php5 will install the newest v5
[02:51] <Trae> soundray, okies
[02:51] <zcat[1] > grphx: ifconfig
[02:51] <lig> k - and thanks Samus_Aran
[02:51] <Trae> soundray, what would you think you'd need as far as power supply to hold 6 drives like that?
[02:51] <Trae> 220 work?
[02:51] <Trae> or you need more?
[02:51] <grphx> THANKS
[02:52] <Jawbreaker27> does anyone have any experience with distorted/garbled display when trying to install 6.06?
[02:52] <raxor_> Jawbreaker27: only when trying to update the nvidia drivers incorrectly
[02:52] <soundray> darth_gimp: restart ARK if you've installed unrar-nonfree in the meantime
[02:52] <zcat[1] > Jawbreaker27: yes, but usually only from trying to use too-old monitors.
[02:53] <darth_gimp> Soundray.. I have.. let me try again.
[02:53] <Jawbreaker27> i didn't think my monitor was all that old... viewsonic pf790
[02:53] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: the default directory that MPlayer looks in is: /usr/lib/win32
[02:53] <javiolo> hi
[02:53] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: you can define another directory if you want, or just create that one and stick them there
[02:54] <Talisker> thanks
[02:54] <darth_gimp> Excellent.. it worked.. thanks!
[02:54] <MikeyMike> does anyone here know how to get hp pavillion wireless adaptor working in ubuntu?
[02:54] <MikeyMike> where to start?
[02:54] <darth_gimp> I've always hated rar for some reason
[02:54] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: I had problems, but it was because I had 3 video cards in my system
[02:54] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, start by doing a lspci
[02:54] <darth_gimp> thanks guys
[02:54] <Samus_Aran> darth_gimp: I love RAR, myself.  excellent compression, extremely secure encryption, very fast decompression ... but slow compression (still faster than bzip2, though)
[02:55] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, You need to find out who makes the the chipset for your wireless lan
[02:55] <soundray> Trae: most drives need around 10W, but can draw *much* more during spin-up. It really depends on the rest of your system. You can always try it out, and if you get strange problems, upgrade your PSU to ca. 350 W (if 220 W is what you have now)
[02:55] <MikeyMike> how might i do that?
[02:55] <zcat[1] > darth_gimp: me too.. as if the world really neded _yet another_ propriatory compressed archive format.. there's a dozen others already.
[02:55] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: How's that? Blocked still?
[02:55] <Jawbreaker27> Samus_Aran: in that case, do you think it might have something to do with having an SLI system (but only one card, and a shadow card installed in the second x16 slot)?
[02:55] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, open up terminal sudo lspci
[02:55] <Trae> soundray, ok, thanks for your feedback, I do appreciate it.
[02:55] <MikeyMike> okay
[02:55] <MikeyMike> then what
[02:56] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: still hitting your firewall
[02:56] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the first port it tried was 45470, now it is trying 10050
[02:56] <[Nige] > then you will see something then about your chipset
[02:56] <MikeyMike> thanks
[02:56] <MikeyMike> very helpful
[02:56] <[Nige] > I cant remember what it is excatly, mine comes up as broadcomm
[02:56] <zcat[1] > !pastebin
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:56] <MikeyMike> yeah this one too
[02:56] <[Nige] > ahh okay
[02:56] <MikeyMike> can u install it wihtout going online?
[02:56] <zcat[1] > ideal for sharing text config files :)
[02:56] <[Nige] > what verision is bcm43xx?
[02:57] <MikeyMike> bcm4318
[02:57] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: I've never had that setup, so I'm not too sure.  it would be nice if Ubuntu setup CD would give you the option of which card to try to load on ... currently it just guesses, and in my case it ended up in a very weird state
[02:57] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: are you able to remove that second card easily, or not ?
[02:57] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, the drivers shoudl be native to your linux kernel as of dapper
[02:57] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Oops. Off by one number. Trying again. (Port 10050 to 10071 are open.)
[02:57] <[Nige] > MikeyMike,  I am guessing you are using dapper
[02:57] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: I just removed my two PCI cards and it worked fine.  I think there is also a textual install that you could try, though it isn't as nice ... you can't play Tetris as you wait for it to install =p
[02:58] <MikeyMike> ok well im helping someone on the phone :)
[02:58] <MikeyMike> yes dapper
[02:58] <MikeyMike> on the LIVE CD
[02:58] <[Nige] > oh
[02:58] <[Nige] > :(
[02:58] <MikeyMike> trying to get her self sufficient
[02:58] <MikeyMike> so she can partition her drives on her own
[02:58] <lulu> hi
[02:58] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: it is still trying 68.228.245.30 port 10050, and not getting through to your IRC client.  perhaps you need to reconnect again
[02:58] <MikeyMike> all she needs is network accessability
[02:58] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray: I just did 'sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' and it came back and said module ndiswrapper not found.
[02:58] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: I always just reconnect after changing anything to do with DCC, seems to often help
[02:58] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: OK.
[02:59] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, you will need to the bcm43xx-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
[02:59] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, you can apt-get that :)
[02:59] <MikeyMike> thanks
[02:59] <MikeyMike> ok how do i do that haha
[02:59] <MikeyMike> apt-get bcm4318-fwcutter ??
[02:59] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:59] <Jawbreaker27> Samus_Aran: the second card is actually just a dummy "card".  they call it a "shadow card" and i'm not sure if this is something exclusive to the manufacturer or what, but it's aparently necessary when using only one video card that is capable of SLI on an SLI capable motherboard, so I didn't think to try taking it out.  It's not difficult to remove, though, so I guess I'll give that a try.  Thanks.
[02:59] <MikeyMike> install
[02:59] <crogue5> what's the website to the list of wireless cards that work and don't?
[02:59] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: did you get it going ?
[03:00] <ThunderStruck> !hardware
[03:00] <nalioth> !wireless
[03:00] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:00] <ThunderStruck> one of those
[03:00] <saara> hello. i have a very serious problem with ubuntu install.
[03:00] <crogue5> thanks
[03:00] <saara> extra kernels do not show up on a grub
[03:00] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: normally, the module ndiswrapper.ko comes with the kernel. It should be in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper . If it's not, you've got a strange installation. Is it breezy or dapper?
[03:00] <Jawbreaker27> Samus_Aran: tetris... :) that would be worth the trouble alone.  off to try again, thanks.
[03:00] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: yeah, I don't know much about SLI myself.  but if it is easy to take out, perhaps try
[03:00] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, there is a good howto here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[03:00] <nothingman> hi, all
[03:00] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: the Ubuntu installer is really nice, working from a fully functional LiveCD
[03:00] <zcat[1] > no frozen bubble on the live cd?
[03:01] <Samus_Aran> oops they're gone.
[03:01] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray:Dapper.
[03:01] <Samus_Aran> Frozen Bubble drove me crazy, way too easy
[03:01] <MikeyMike> ok i will read from there
[03:01] <Tommy2k4> should ubuntu not warn you if you get low on hdd space?
[03:01] <Samus_Aran> I could beat Puzzle Bobble in the arcade on one quarter, so Frozen Bubble was painfully easy.  played it for over an hour then gave up and never loaded it again
[03:01] <zcat[1] > Fish Fillets is cool.. discovered it this morning.
[03:01] <nothingman> been having the same trouble with my Xinerama machine for several weeks: the s3virge cards don't work, giving a "Requesting insufficient memory window!" error when I start X
[03:01] <Samus_Aran> what is Fish Fillets ?
[03:02] <nothingman> all I can get to work is my intel integrated chip, by commenting out those cards
[03:02] <zcat[1] > puzzle game like (sokoban)?
[03:02] <nothingman> no one's offered help, and Google and the forums are devoid of info
[03:02] <zcat[1] > two fish have to push objects around to move through a maze/room
[03:02] <nothingman> even commenting out one doesn't help
[03:03] <zcat[1] > they're smartass fish too :)
[03:03] <nalioth> !offtopic
[03:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:04] <nothingman> this is all since upgrading to Dapper
[03:04] <lotwook> !XGL
[03:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:05] <nothingman> and X.org 7.0, of course
[03:05] <Samus_Aran> I wonder if XGL would work on top of a Multiseat Xorg setup
[03:05] <zcat[1] > Samus_Aran: not really.
[03:05] <DBO> Samus_Aran, yes
[03:05] <lotwook> I'm looking to remove the wobbly effect of XGL. can anyone help?
[03:05] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: 68.228.245.30 port 10051 this time, still can't get through to your IRC client
[03:05] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: I wonder if your kernel install is incomplete for some reason. Have you upgraded to 2.6.15-26 yet?
[03:05] <DBO> lotwook, sure
[03:06] <zcat[1] > I have the first screen xgl and everything else xorg. smart compiz.sh script that checks and only loads compiz if it's in xgl.
[03:06] <nothingman> I never had this problem with Breezy, and everyone running an s3 or s3virge driver seems to be doing OK for the most part
[03:06] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Then I'll do it the "hard" way. Per-port configuration! Argh! :-)
[03:06] <DBO> lotwook, go into gconf-editor, apps -> compiz -> general -> whateverfolder -> options... in the first key is a list of plugins, remove wobbly from that list
[03:06] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: are you sure you forwarded TCP ports 10050-10051 ?
[03:06] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray: I've done nothing... I have no internet connection.  Is there a way I could download ndiswrapper.ko?
[03:06] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: for DCC's, it requires one port per DCC connection (DCC Chats, DCC Sends), so for the moment one is fine
[03:07] <zcat[1] > lotwook: gconf-editor is the hardway. there's an easier tool but the name escapes me :)
[03:07] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: what architecture are you on?
[03:07] <lotwook> guess I dont have gconf-editor
[03:07] <DBO> zcat[1] , gset-compiz
[03:07] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray:x86
[03:07] <DBO> lotwook, are you a KDE user?
[03:07] <zcat[1] > thanks dbo :)
[03:07] <lotwook> no gnome
[03:07] <DBO> lotwook, run gconf-editor from a terminal
[03:07] <lotwook> In fact I dont have apps -> compiz
[03:07] <Samus_Aran> DBO: have you run XGL on a multiseat setup ?  I'm a bit worried about stability, the nVIDIA drivers aren't particularly stable as it is on multiseat, heh
[03:08] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I used the "Applications" feature which lets you forward a range of ports. But, that's not always been reliable for me. This time, I'll do an explicit port forward.
[03:08] <DBO> Samus_Aran, its not stable, but neither is a normal multiseat
[03:08] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: did you install a pre-release version of dapper?
[03:08] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray:Nope, I used my CDs that came in the mail from Shipit
[03:08] <DBO> lotwook, the path (apps -> compiz blah blah) is inside gconf-editor
[03:08] <Samus_Aran> DBO: actually, the biggest annoyance I've found so far is if I run VMware fullscreen from one of the seats, the other one turns off .. and if you change the video mode on it, it wakes up again, but keeps turning off from then on
[03:08] <lotwook> ok got it thanks.
[03:08] <Samus_Aran> DBO: some weird power management thing confusing multiseat
[03:08] <zcat[1] > Samus_Aran: the way I run it works fine.. only the first user to log in gets xgl. I tried more than one but it crashed immediately.
[03:08] <technel> If you have validates_format_of :username, :with => /[a-zA-Z0-9_] +/i, :message => 'may only contain alphanumerical characters and "_"' in a model, "with space" should NOT pass validation, should it?
[03:09] <DBO> Samus_Aran, it would be REALLY slow, but I have run something close enough to multiseat that I dont see why it wouldnt work
[03:09] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Yay! Hehe.
[03:09] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: I had that same problem on my sister's firewall, actually.  port ranges did nothing, individual ports worked
[03:09] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: DCC received file xorg.conf [5kB]  from Lighty in 00:00:00 [4.04kB/s] 
[03:09] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: good stuff =p
[03:09] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: will take a look now
[03:09] <nothingman> also, it takes a long time before I'm able to log in via SSH, even if gdm comes up
[03:10] <nothingman> and my hard drive's constantly being accessed
[03:10] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Thanks. I'll finish adding other ports while you do that.
[03:10] <technel> wow, wrong channel, sorry
[03:10] <zcat[1] > BTW; xgl/compiz totally breaks the inbuilt vnc remote desktop
[03:10] <agwibowo> hello..... i was wondering how to edit the menu that popups when i right click on desktop... i want to add an entry "open terminal"
[03:10] <DBO> zcat[1] , you need to give it a env variable to get rid of that washed out look
[03:10] <DBO> zcat[1] , or are you talking about using VNC server
[03:10] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: I suggest you boot into ubuntu again and do a 'dpkg -l linux-image*' to find out which kernel version you have available. Then do a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.15-22-i386', replacing the version as appropriate to reinstall the kernel.
[03:10] <lotwook> sweet wobbly gone. Thanks DBO
[03:10] <filemover> Im having a problem yesterday i tired to set the permissions on some folders I had transfered from a CD using the terminal to a directory I created called My music anyway the upshot of the situation is that after using chown to change ownership my whole installation went haywire and now i cant boot into the system because there are not enough permisions to start it
[03:10] <zcat[1] > vnc server. Completely fails to start under compiz
[03:11] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray:Will that install ndiswrapper.ko as well?
[03:11] <Samus_Aran> DBO: my :0 seat is running on a Geforce FX5700LE 128MB DDR SDRAM AGP 8x and the seat :1 is running on a Geforce MX-4000 64MB DDR SDRAM PCI card
[03:11] <filemover> can anyone help
[03:11] <DBO> zcat[1] , try freenx instead, I have never tried to VNC to Xgl, but I imagine you wouldnt have much luck
[03:11] <Samus_Aran> DBO: so in theory they could both handle it, I can run 3D apps on both ... though if I do that, it tends to slow to a crawl.  I am so looking forward to getting a dual-core Athlon 64 in the future
[03:12] <Samus_Aran> I'm on an Athlon XP 3000+ at the moment
[03:12] <DBO> Samus_Aran, thats my general experience, it would be too processor intensive
[03:12] <zcat[1] > It''s really easy in a vanilla login, there's a remote desktop menu option. swich it on, use VNC from elsewhere.
[03:12] <zcat[1] > it shares the desktop windows-vnc-style
[03:12] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: if it still doesn't find the module after that, it might help to force it with 'sudo insmod /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'.
[03:12] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: note any error messages to that command and paste them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for people here to review.
[03:12] <DBO> zcat[1] , the arch of Xgl provides an extra layer of complexity, Im not sure that will work too well
[03:12] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: it normally would.
[03:12] <Samus_Aran> DBO: one real problem I've found with Ubuntu and multiseat is that if I use the K7 kernel, when one person moves the mouse, it almost stops the other desktop
[03:12] <TRoGDoR5050> Alright, thanks!
[03:13] <kazukisan> -> i installed the latest FGLRX Drivers with the downloaded ati installer and then i edited xorg.conf to use the fglrx driver, x starts fine with it but direct rendering is no ?? any help on getting direct rendering working ???
[03:13] <filemover> Im having a problem yesterday i tired to set the permissions on some folders I had transfered from a CD using the terminal to a directory I created called My music anyway the upshot of the situation is that after using chown to change ownership my whole installation went haywire and now i cant boot into the system because there are not enough permisions to start it
[03:13] <Samus_Aran> DBO: I am presently downgraded to the stock i386 kernel, as it isn't using the preempt options
[03:13] <Samus_Aran> DBO: or whatever it is that is causing it
[03:13] <spoil> any chance someone here has some experience with intel hub?
[03:13] <zcat[1] > DBO: yeah, I found that oht the other day. It works on a regular login but compiz totally kills it.
[03:13] <Samus_Aran> DBO: I assume it is the preemption
[03:13] <Samus_Aran> spoil: what in particular ?
[03:13] <dracflamloc> hi there windows overwrote my grub boot sector. using the bootcd how can i reinstall it? i used rescue, and chose the right partition, but when i run "grub" it says bterm is not there
[03:14] <spoil> the ip of the admin panel :)
[03:14] <soundray> !grub
[03:14] <DBO> Samus_Aran, I have no idea what would cause that
[03:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:14] <soundray> dracflamloc: ^^
[03:14] <dracflamloc> =)
[03:14] <dracflamloc> hda1 isnt found?
[03:14] <Samus_Aran> DBO: also, I can't for the life of me get GDM to work multiseat.  I get the login screens on both desktops fine, but when I log in, it always tells me it can't load the window manager, falling back to the terminal
[03:15] <Samus_Aran> DBO: and once in that terminal, I can load KDE or ICEWM or whatever.  it's quite fishy
[03:15] <Samus_Aran> DBO: without multiseat, GDM works as expected
[03:15] <Samus_Aran> DBO: so currently I have a script to launch multiseat which I run from TTY1 as root
[03:16] <spoil> Samus_Aran, you know the ip of the hub?
[03:16] <dracflamloc> um
[03:16] <dracflamloc> i dont have any hdxx in /dev using rescue....
[03:16] <filemover> Im having a problem yesterday i tired to set the permissions on some folders I had transfered from a CD using the terminal to a directory I created called My music anyway the upshot of the situation is that after using chown to change ownership my whole installation went haywire and now i cant boot into the system because there are not enough permisions to start it
[03:16] <spoil> i searched google for 30 mins, and nothing there :\
[03:17] <Samus_Aran> anyone know how to use apt-file to find "etc/init.d/postfix" ?
[03:17] <DBO> apt-file update, apt-file search /etc/init.d/postfix
[03:17] <Samus_Aran> spoil: hubs just pass the connections directly through, to all ethernet cables, they have no IP themselves.  if you mean a router, then it will have an IP
[03:18] <dracflamloc> can any one help? for some reason i cant just do the grub-install /dev/hda because it sys there is no /dev/hda
[03:18] <bikini> i just booted into ubuntu again.. how do i make sure my system will boot to my linux partition, instead of the windows partition?
[03:18] <Samus_Aran> DBO: thank you.  I'd never heard of apt-file before today.  it looks useful
[03:18] <filemover> can someone help me please
[03:19] <Samus_Aran> filemover: you apparently chmod'ed over part of your system, which is almost as bad as erasing all the files on the system
[03:19] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I hadn't heard of apt-file either and I've been using Ubuntu for a year and a half. :-)
[03:19] <filemover> yeah i gathered that :(
[03:20] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: heh.  I've been using Ubuntu for about a month now.  years ago I used Debian at work for around 2 years
[03:20] <filemover> so what do i do a reinstall
[03:20] <Jawbreaker27> does anyone know if there is an easy way for me to preload nvidia drivers into the installation for ubuntu?  i'm having a hell of a time getting the graphical installer to display properly :(
[03:20] <Samus_Aran> filemover: I think Ubuntu supports an upgrade install, where it will install over the current one.  if it does, then that would probably fix the files that got repermissioned, but there's no guarantee.  it really depends on what was changed
[03:21] <a2xm> hi all, pls help. since I installed 6.06 I can't use my DVDROM, but my CDRW is OK. what might be happened?
[03:21] <filemover> ok
[03:21] <Samus_Aran> filemover: I would boot in on the Live CD, check out the partition to see what happened to the files
[03:21] <filemover> ok
[03:21] <NthDegree> dracflamloc try /dev/sda if /dev/hda doesn't exist
[03:21] <filemover> what should i be loooking for
[03:21] <Samus_Aran> filemover: do you know what the specific error is it gives you when it boots ?
[03:21] <filemover> yes
[03:21] <filemover> i do
[03:21] <dracflamloc> NthDegree, no luck. i know its hda. i type df and it lists it
[03:22] <Samus_Aran> filemover: what is it ?
[03:22] <dracflamloc> but if i ls /dev it isnt there
[03:22] <krism> anyone know how to change xemacs menubar font? ideally i'd just like to get RID of the stinking menu
[03:23] <filemover> libgnomevfs-Warning  **: Unable to create ~/. gnome2 directory: Permission denied
[03:23] <filemover> there are a couple of other warning on the same lines
[03:23] <dracflamloc> does nobody knwo wtf is going on here? =(
[03:23] <NthDegree> you using the gpt partition table type?
[03:23] <dracflamloc> ext3
[03:24] <dracflamloc> on a 100gb laptop ide drive
[03:24] <NthDegree> no i mean the partition table
[03:24] <Dark_Knight_209> anyone know about setting up  dual monitors?
[03:24] <dracflamloc> dunno, its using whatever is default for ubuntu
[03:24] <Samus_Aran> filemover: okay, so it looks like you just changed permissions on your own users files
[03:24] <NthDegree> ok that'll be msdos more than likely
[03:24] <filemover> yep
[03:24] <filemover> :(
[03:25] <NthDegree> try grub-install (hd0)
[03:25] <filemover> ive tried to change them back using failsafe but its no good
[03:25] <dracflamloc> fdisk -l says 'cannot open /proc/partitions'
[03:25] <bikini_> whats the command to re install grub?
[03:25] <NthDegree> grub-install
[03:25] <dracflamloc> 'unexpected syntax error near 'hd0'
[03:25] <NthDegree> hmmmmm
[03:25] <bikini_> NthDegree: what after that?
[03:25] <NthDegree> it can't find hd0 either then
[03:25] <Samus_Aran> filemover: use the Live CD to boot, and then load up the hard drive where your home directory is, and then change the permissions recursively on it so that your user has write permission on everything
[03:26] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I just did what DBO suggested for you and it identified the /etc/init.d/postfix file as being *in* the postfix package.
[03:26] <bikini_> install device?
[03:26] <filemover> ok
[03:26] <bikini_> like.. hd0?
[03:26] <NthDegree> bikini normally it would either be /dev/sda or /dev/hda
[03:26] <filemover> what command do i use chown
[03:26] <interfear> VLC or Mplayer?
[03:26] <filemover> or chmod
[03:26] <dracflamloc> df shows /dev/hda1 as mounted on /
[03:26] <dracflamloc> (this is using the 5.10 rescue cd mode)
[03:26] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: when I try to install postfix, it informs me that /etc/init.d/postfix does not exist, and stops
[03:27] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: and yes, I got the same search results from apt-file  =/
[03:27] <NthDegree> try grub-install /dev/hda1 then
[03:27] <Lichte> hello, I'm trying to install from the livecd, can someone help ?
[03:27] <NthDegree> you can install to partition superblock as opposed to all loaded in mbr
[03:27] <Warbo> Lichte: What is the problem?
[03:27] <Lichte> how do I get the intaller to leave hdb alone ?
[03:27] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I haven't answered yes, yet, but it's wanting to install several packages for me when I try to apt-get postfix.
[03:27] <Lichte> I'm installing to hda
[03:28] <NthDegree> Lichte, manually do the partitioning
[03:28] <Warbo> Lichte: Set up the partitions manually, then just don't tell it to use hdb
[03:28] <dracflamloc> NthDegree, nope, it says 'not found'
[03:28] <Lichte> that doesn't work
[03:28] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: It also wants to remove hula-manager.
[03:28] <DBO> Lighty, what are you needing to accomplish?
[03:28] <NthDegree> it does
[03:28] <Lichte> it keeps popping up an error message about /dev/hdb2
[03:28] <Warbo> Lichte: What is it trying to do to hdb?
[03:28] <Lichte> NthDegree: no, it doesn't
[03:28] <Lichte> Warbo: that's what I'd like to know
[03:28] <Ignite__> Lichte, whats the error?
[03:28] <Warbo> Lichte: OK, so it is not putting / on there or anything then
[03:29] <dracflamloc> NthDegree, i knwo it does, but i'm telling you it says it doesnt, plus in /dev/ it isnt listed =((
[03:29] <Lichte> Ignite__: something about a ext2 error
[03:29] <Lighty> DBO: I don't need anything with postfix, that's Samus_Aran's thing. He's looking at my xorg.conf for me to see why I can't change resolutions. While he's doing that, I thought I'd look ath the problem he's having.
[03:29] <NthDegree> Lichte, you want manually edit the partition table then set the /dev/hdb2 to "do not use this partition" then it will have no errors (hopefully)
[03:29] <Ignite__> Lichte, sounds like its trying to format it, so its been told to use it
[03:29] <DBO> ok, Samus_Aran, whats your issue with postfix? =P
[03:29] <Lichte> NthDegree: I didn't see any such option as do not use
[03:29] <Lichte> Ignite__: but I removed all hdb stuff
[03:30] <Lichte> I only clicked on the hda partitions that I setup
[03:30] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I'm guessing you need another repository in your sources.list file since I can seem to install postfix and you can't? DBO: Any comments?
[03:30] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: for me it lists some recommended packages, then tries to install and spews an error about the file being missing
[03:30] <Warbo> I am not actually familiar with the graphical installer. I installed Breezy and upgraded :)
[03:30] <Ignite__> Lichte, manually do the partitioning with the installer, you can tell it not to use it, at the final stage of the installer you will have a screen that has options asking where to mount partitions etc.. just make sure it isn't using it there
[03:30] <Samus_Aran> http://rafb.net/paste/results/LEsTGy65.html  << that is the complete output of apt-get
[03:30] <NthDegree> you have to select "manually edit the partition table" then edit /dev/hdb2 and then put "do not use this partition"  - if that isn;t there then the live installer is retarded
[03:30] <Lichte> Ignite__: that's exactly what I did
[03:30] <Jawbreaker27> Has anyone here clean installed the new ubuntu with an SLI system (not necessarily using 2 cards)?  If so, were there any problems viewing the graphical interface during install?
[03:30] <Samus_Aran> I've been fighting with postfix for weeks now, since I installed Ubuntu
[03:31] <Samus_Aran> it just won't install.
[03:31] <Lichte> Ignite__: the screen that shows you what it's going to do only shows hda stuff happening
[03:31] <Samus_Aran> I had it installed before, but it would not run and would not produce any erorr logs to tell me why not
[03:31] <NthDegree> Lichte use the alternate CD if this is causing issues
[03:31] <DBO> Samus_Aran, sudo dpkg -P postfix, Samus_Aran then do "sudo apt-get install postfix"
[03:31] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: It installed fine for me. Want my sources.list file?
[03:31] <Warbo> NthDegree: Well the live installer can't handle LVM I don't think, so a few months ago I would have needed the alternate disc
[03:31] <Lichte> Ignite__: then it starts doing it's thing and i get hda errors
[03:31] <Ignite__> Lichte, what errors?
[03:31] <NthDegree> i never use the live CD it doesn't boot
[03:31] <Samus_Aran> DBO: trying
[03:31] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Do DBO's thing first. :-)
[03:31] <Lichte> Ignite__: I don't know, something about ext2 error
[03:32] <Warbo> NthDegree: Well that always helps :)
[03:32] <Ignite__> Lichte, sounds alien to me, can you try and find the exact error? i will be able to help more
[03:32] <Lichte> I have Gentoo on hdb, I want that left alone
[03:32] <Lichte> Ignite__: ok, I'll start the install again
[03:32] <Ignite__> ok
[03:33] <Samus_Aran> DBO: same error, no /etc/init.d/postfix
[03:33] <Lichte> it shouldn't even be looking at hdb
[03:33] <Warbo> Lichte: If you want two Linuces installed together make sure you install GRUB to a partition for one of them. Both on the MBR will create conflicts
[03:33] <Lichte> Warbo: it's already taken care of
[03:33] <Samus_Aran> http://rafb.net/paste/results/DA9Dp231.html
[03:33] <dracflamloc> ugh super grub disk appears to be down
[03:33] <Warbo> Lichte: Just making sure :)
[03:33] <Warbo> dracflamloc: Not so super then is it?
[03:33] <dracflamloc> =(
[03:33] <Ignite__> lol
[03:33] <Samus_Aran> heh
[03:33] <Lichte> Warbo: I use darik's boot and nuke on a drive before I install anything
[03:34] <dracflamloc> 5.10 rescue mode is broken
[03:34] <Warbo> Lichte: OK, I have no idea what that is
[03:34] <DBO> Samus_Aran, sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/postfi(tab complete)
[03:34] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: By the way, I'm using 6.06, so those are Dapper repos I gave you. :-)
[03:34] <Samus_Aran> DBO: three possibilities
[03:35] <DBO> Samus_Aran, pick the one with the highest number
[03:35] <Samus_Aran> er, it is postfix, postfix_dev and postfix_doc
[03:35] <Samus_Aran> I assume you want the postfix
[03:35] <DBO> yes
[03:35] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: We assume *you* want it. :-)
[03:36] <bikini> NthDegree: can i message you with an error message i'm getting with grub-install?
[03:36] <NthDegree> sure
[03:36] <Samus_Aran> DBO: http://rafb.net/paste/results/EpXcsi67.html  << most recent set of errors
[03:36] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: heh
[03:36] <NthDegree> you may PM me if you like :)
[03:37] <DBO> Samus_Aran, lets try again, sudo dpkg -P postfix, then do the sudo dpkg -i /var/blahblahblah command we just did
[03:37] <Warbo> Is it sending or receiving PMs which needs to be registered?
[03:37] <dracflamloc> anyone know a bootcd with grub on it?
[03:38] <Samus_Aran> DBO: to clarify when this problem showed up: postfix would not work no matter what I was trying, so I uninstalled it (or tried to) and removed /etc/init.d/postfix and /etc/postfix and tried to start fresh.  but it hasn't been able to install or remove itself properly all along =/
[03:38] <dracflamloc> does damnsmall have it?
[03:38] <Warbo> dracflamloc: Ubuntu's LiveCD has it I think
[03:38] <NthDegree> knoppix might
[03:38] <DBO> Samus_Aran, did you do that manually?
[03:38] <dracflamloc> i dont want to download and burn a 700mb cd
[03:38] <NthDegree> and knoppix is a very reliable live distro
[03:38] <dracflamloc> just for grub
[03:38] <NthDegree> lol
[03:38] <Warbo> dracflamloc: I have some custom ones
[03:38] <DBO> Samus_Aran, is the dpkg -P command giving errors?
[03:39] <Samus_Aran> DBO: http://rafb.net/paste/results/20H3E365.html  << yes
[03:39] <dracflamloc> i'll see what dsl has
[03:39] <Warbo> dracflamloc: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html Maybe that wil help
[03:39] <dracflamloc> this is ridiculus
[03:39] <Samus_Aran> DBO: can I just force the install of the package, then remove it again ?
[03:40] <DBO> Samus_Aran, hold please
[03:40] <Samus_Aran> dracflamloc: what is wrong with the Ubuntu Live CD / Installer ?
[03:40] <dracflamloc> read up. my grub loader was overwritten by windows, i need to reinstall grub
[03:40] <DBO> Samus_Aran, this is a bit dangerous, dont go about using this all the time, sudo dpkg -P --force-all  postfix
[03:40] <dracflamloc> should be easy using the recue mode
[03:40] <dracflamloc> on the ubuntu cd
[03:40] <dracflamloc> but no
[03:40] <dracflamloc> it says /dev/hda doesnt exist
[03:41] <Samus_Aran> DBO: thanks a lot for your help, by the way.  I've been without downloading e-mail to my computer for weeks now .. getting a fair bit annoying =p
[03:41] <dracflamloc> but i type df and voila it says /dev/hda1 is mounted on /
[03:41] <thejoe> How do I install PHP on ubuntu?
[03:41] <Viper550> Are there any Ubuntu Drivers in here?
[03:41] <Samus_Aran> DBO: http://rafb.net/paste/results/H2mo3O24.html  << no joy  =/
[03:41] <Samus_Aran> thejoe: apt-get install php5
[03:41] <tanlaan> could anyone help me get realplayer installed
[03:41] <Samus_Aran> thejoe: or just fire up synaptic
[03:42] <brownegg> man wifi on my thinkpad is total ass
[03:42] <DBO> Samus_Aran, do the install command with the --force-all
[03:42] <Warbo> dracflamloc: Just because the partition is mounted, you automatically assume that the drive has been recognised? :)
[03:42] <Samus_Aran> DBO: okay
[03:42] <dracflamloc> Warbo, you would think so
[03:42] <Warbo> !realplayer
[03:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:42] <thejoe> Ok, thanks.
[03:42] <brownegg> anyone have any ideas why my pings would be ok but my http performance *horrible*
[03:42] <brownegg> this is the only wifi box on my linksys network
[03:43] <brownegg> dns is ok, ethernet is ok
[03:43] <Lichte> how do I set a boot flag with this graphical thingy ?
[03:43] <Samus_Aran> DBO: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wBRSD826.html  << that seems to have done it
[03:43] <Lichte> on the partition ?
[03:43] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Yay!
[03:44] <Glassius> i'm trying to install from a source repository using "apt-get --build source" but need to apply a patch to the source before it gets compiled, how would i do that?
[03:44] <Samus_Aran> now I just apt-get remove'd it and install'd it without any errors, phew.
[03:44] <Samus_Aran> now I need to find out how to properly import my main.cf and other files from my previous two distros to Ubuntu, without it exploding on me again
[03:45] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Now that that's solved, did you decipher my xorg problem?
[03:45] <dracflamloc> !grub
[03:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:45] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: oh yeah, will go look now.  was so excited to be getting somewhere with my postfix problem =p
[03:46] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I can imagine. It's fun to get a really "stuck" problem unstuck.
[03:46] <Viper550> Are there anyone part of the Ubuntu Drivers team here right now?
[03:46] <Madpilot> Viper550, which team?
[03:46] <Viper550> Drivers
[03:47] <Viper550> Technical Board
[03:47] <Madpilot> Viper550, like device drivers? Try #ubuntu-devel
[03:47] <Viper550> No, the Ubuntu Drivers, a TEAM
[03:47] <dracflamloc> arg
[03:47] <dracflamloc> ok i'm in damnsmall linux
[03:47] <dracflamloc> i can mount /dev/hda1
[03:48] <dracflamloc> but i try grub-install /dev/hda and i get '/dev/cloop does not have any corresponding bios drive)
[03:48] <Lichte> ok, it's starting up the partitioner
[03:48] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: okay.  your problem is that you haven't entered the modes in the bottom section.  you provided the modelines, which tells it how to run the modes, but you didn't provide any modes afterward for it to try using
[03:48] <Lichte> at this point the thing shouldn't be scanning for media
[03:49] <Lichte> it's been told what to do
[03:49] <Lichte> yet, away it scans
[03:49] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: and by default, when there are no modes set to try out, it uses the maximum resolution supported by your monitor (in this case, 1600x1200)
[03:49] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Can you give me one example to put in?
[03:50] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: that's my xorg.conf file.  it is far from normal looking, but just go to the bottom sections that have the resolutions listed
[03:50] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: you have one for each bitdepth you want to support
[03:50] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: SubSection "Display"
[03:51] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: and don't forget to put in a DefaultColorDepth if you have more than one possible bitdepth
[03:51] <Lichte> Ignite__: there's no way to keep it from using my swap on /dev/hdb
[03:51] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Holy cow! That's a big xorg.conf file! :-)
[03:51] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the modelines you have may or may not be needed at all, I would just comment them out and see if they work through autodetection (they should)
[03:51] <Lichte> Ignite__: the final screen says it's going to do both swap partitions
[03:51] <Krhis> How does one echo a new line in bash? The man page (man echo) says \n will work but it dosn't.
[03:51] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: I haven't needed a modeline since XFree86 3.3.6
[03:52] <Lichte> Ignite__: it also says it's going to only use /dev/hda partitions that I've setup
[03:52] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Can I ask what the Seat_# feature does?
[03:52] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: so long as you provide the monitor's horizontal and vertical syncs, the video card driver should have no troubles producing valid modes
[03:52] <Lichte> Ignite__: I'm now going to click the install button
[03:52] <Ignite__> ok
[03:52] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: I use multiseat Xorg, meaning more than one simultaneous monitor+mouse+keyboard on the same PC
[03:52] <nikosapi> can someone help me with ubuntu to ubuntu NFS?
[03:52] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: my spouse and I can then use the computer at the same time
[03:53] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Oh. OK. "Traditional" X11-style stuff, then. :-) I've just never done it, so didn't know that's how it was done.
[03:53] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the Seat_1 and Seat_2 are just the names I used for the different "server layouts"
[03:54] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: multiseat used to involve patching the linux kernel and the X server, but as of Xorg 7.x.x, it is much easier to do
[03:54] <Samus_Aran> still kind of unstable, but at least easier to try out
[03:55] <crogue5> anyone familiar with xgl ?
[03:55] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: it should be really stable in a year or two.  I hope Ubuntu adopts multiseat then, would be cool to have it as an option during install: 1) use one monitor only, 2) use two monitors with xinerama, 3) use each monitor separately as multiseat
[03:55] <Madpilot> crogue5, try #ubuntu-xgl
[03:55] <crogue5> thanks
[03:56] <Heretician> Is Ubuntu supposed to automatically detect an ethernet card?
[03:56] <Lichte> The test of the file system with type ext2 in partition #1 of IDE1 slave (hdb) found uncorrected errors.
[03:56] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: OK. My specific need is that I want to run Gnome in my default 24-bit 1600x1200. But, I'd like to switch to 32-bit 1024x768 to run a certain game (SecondLife) under Cedega. My config doesn't let me change, though.
[03:56] <Heretician> or at that, an internet connection
[03:56] <Lichte> that's the error
[03:56] <ben__> yes
[03:56] <Heretician> im pulling 127.0.0.1 for an IP .. :/
[03:56] <ben__> but you can go to system administration networking and change it
[03:56] <Lichte> now what
[03:56] <Heretician> yeah Applications -> Networking?
[03:57] <ben__> Heretician, do you have a wireless or wired
[03:57] <Heretician> wired
[03:57] <Lichte> why the hell is this thing even looking at my hdb !!
[03:57] <Heretician> windows automatically detects it... :P
[03:57] <ben__> does it show up in system -> administration -> networking
[03:57] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the basic method in Xorg 7.x.x to do multiseat is to not use the "kbd" and "mouse" drivers, as they can't distinguish themselves for only one X server (you need to use the newer "evdev" universal input driver), and then you run the X server with an option telling it to not bind itself to a VT (like TTY7 being the default)
[03:57] <Heretician> eth0
[03:57] <Lichte> do I click "Continue" or "Go back" button ?
[03:57] <ben__> thats it
[03:57] <Heretician> yeah
[03:57] <Heretician> its activated
[03:58] <ben__> ok
[03:58] <Lichte> Ignite__: The test of the file system with type ext2 in partition #1 of IDE1 slave (hdb) found uncorrected errors.
[03:58] <ben__> click on it and then click configure
[03:58] <Heretician> DHCP
[03:58] <Heretician> its uh
[03:58] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: I missed your question when ranting about multiseat, hang on, lemme read it now =p
[03:58] <technel> Is sendmail going to be a nightmare to set up on Ubuntu? There are no wiki articles, I downloaded the package, but I want to test the default configuration (crossing my fingers, don't really want to get messy with this tonight)
[03:58] <Heretician> not up though, i can only run one box at a time
[03:58] <Heretician> no kvm switch or anything
[03:58] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Whew! I was worried! I thought you were saying I needed multi-seat! :-)
[03:58] <ben__> if you are automatically assigned an ip via a router or somethin select dhcp
[03:58] <Heretician> but I remember its set to DHCP.. I'm running on cable internet and i'm pretty sure the IP is static
[03:58] <Lichte> why is this thing checking other filesystems ?!?
[03:59] <Heretician> and its going in directly
[03:59] <Heretician> no router
[03:59] <ben__> ok
[03:59] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: okay, so just add in the two things like I said (there is no 32bit mode, only 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 and 24bits, add any of them you want to have available, and set the default) and the list of resolutions (like in mine)
[03:59] <Ignite__> Lichte, you need to boot into Gentoo and check your hdb1 partition for errors, correct them, and reboot and install
[03:59] <Heretician> I think my IP resets like every month or something (just a guess)
[03:59] <Lichte> Ignite__: there are no errors on those filesystems
[04:00] <Lichte> Ignite__: and why is this thing even checking them ?!?
[04:00] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: then you'll need to log out of your desktop and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart your GDM/Xorg
[04:00] <Heretician> Should I select Static IP, ben__?
[04:00] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: or do it properly, log in on a TTY and do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:00] <Ignite__> Lichte, no idea, to stop later problems maybe? its worth checking
[04:00] <Lichte> Ignite__: it's been checked, as I said, there are no errors on those filesystems
[04:00] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: once you're back in, confirm that you are in the mode you want as default (xwininfo -root)
[04:01] <ubuntu> l
[04:01] <Lichte> Ignite__: what later problems, it's not even supposed to know there's an hdb in this box
[04:01] <Eclipse_GSX> so im installing ubuntu on an old P3 450...
[04:01] <Eclipse_GSX> im having some probs...
[04:01] <Lichte> Ignite__: I told it to use hda
[04:01] <ben__> if you know your ip information go ahead and select static
[04:01] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: and then run "xrandr" to confirm it has all the other modes you want available.  WINE or Cedega are capable of switching to fullscreen modes by itself, so your game should "just work"
[04:01] <Heretician> ok
[04:01] <Heretician> but if it changes
[04:01] <Lichte> Ignite__: it even checked my fat32 hdd drive!
[04:01] <Ignite__> Lichte, incase you want to mount it and use it at some later point
[04:01] <Heretician> it will just go back to not working again correct?
[04:01] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: OK! Thanks. I'll work on it. I have an online appointment at the top  of the hour, 2 minutes ago! Hehe.
[04:01] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: if it doesn't, you can use "xrandr -s <mode you want>" before loading the game
[04:01] <Ignite__> Lichte, try the alternate install, you will have more control over the install
[04:02] <Lichte> Ignite__: I turned that off during install
[04:02] <Lichte> Ignite__: I purposely clicked all the stuff with hdb to the blank space
[04:02] <b00gz1> When I type startx I get a message error
[04:02] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: good luck
[04:02] <Ignite__> Lichte, its better to be safe than sorry :)
[04:02] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Thanks!
[04:02] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: welcome
[04:03] <Samus_Aran> now to see about getting my postfix to work with my config file
[04:03] <Lichte> Ignite__: no, this thing shouldn't even be checking for stuff that I turned off
[04:03] <b00gz1> When I type startx I get a message error in locking authority file /home/b00gz/.Xauthority
[04:03] <vice-versa> any suggestions for booting with 5.10 livecd on a Compaq R4000 (AMD64 3500 w/ATI)?
[04:03] <vice-versa> so far I've used noacpi acpi=off debian-installer/framebuffer=false and I'm thinking it's hanging loading X
[04:03] <Ignite__> Lichte, use the alternate install
[04:04] <Ignite__> Lichte, you will have more control, the desktop install is simpler, more automated
[04:04] <Lichte> what kind of software just decides it's going to whatever it wants with other drives ?
[04:04] <Madpilot> b00gz1, type "sudo rm /home/b00gz/.Xauthority" then try startx again
[04:04] <Lichte> Ignite__: is that on the livecd ?
[04:04] <Ignite__> Lichte, its a seperate disc
[04:04] <ben__> Heretician, were you given a sheet from your isp with network information?
[04:04] <Lichte> Ignite__: I have no burner, so that's out
[04:04] <Ignite__> Lichte, ah
[04:04] <Heretician> erm
[04:04] <Heretician> i dont think hold on
[04:05] <Heretician> uh
[04:05] <Heretician> will the work order work?
[04:05] <Ignite__> Lichte, do you maybe have a friend with a burner?
[04:05] <Heretician> I'm using Adelphia ;)
[04:06] <Ignite__> Lichte, also, maybe ship it has free alternate CDs?
[04:06] <b00gz1> Madpilot now I get creating new authority file /home/b00gz/.serverauth.10864 then a server error
[04:06] <Madpilot> b00gz1, meh... just killing .Xauthority usually works...
[04:06] <Lichte> Ignite__: last time I used shipit, it took a few months
[04:06] <b00gz1> Madpilot now I get error in locking authority file /home/b00gz/.Xauthority
[04:07] <b00gz1> then Server Error
[04:07] <Ignite__> Lichte, that is true, but its free, and it gets you the discs eventually
[04:07] <Lichte> Ignite__: I just wanted to try this out, I'm going to use extraordinary measures
[04:07] <Madpilot> b00gz1, type "ls /home/b00gz/.Xauthority" and paste the line it gives you
[04:07] <Lichte> Ignite__: if this doesn't work, I'll just throw the livecd away and be done with it
[04:07] <hyperstream> hmm why cant i run xsane as a user to get my brother DCP - 115c working... i have to run it as root in a terminal. im in the 'scanner' group as well
[04:07] <Ignite__> Lichte, maybe disconnect the drive phisically, install and then reconnect?
[04:08] <b00gz1> Madpilot it just repeats /home/b00gz/.Xauthority
[04:08] <Lichte> Ignite__: that would fall under extraordinay measures ;)
[04:08] <Ignite__> >_>
[04:09] <Lichte> Ignite__: it seems to be copying software over now.........what are the odds that it didn't actually over write my hdb ?
[04:09] <Madpilot> b00gz1, sorry, do "ls -l /home/b00gz/.Xauthority" - that's -L
[04:10] <Ignite__> Lichte, it should leave any partitions alone you didn't tell it to modify, i guess the checking for errors could be classes as a precaution, if its carrying on i doubt you will have any issues :)
[04:10] <b00gz1> Madpilot rw 1 root root 0 2006-07-14 22:05 /home/b00gz/.Xauthoirty
[04:10] <Lichte> Ignite__: I'll just modify my /etc/fstab when it's finished
[04:10] <Ignite__> :)
[04:11] <Lichte> it really shouldn't be doing this though
[04:11] <Madpilot> b00gz1, ok, you need to do "sudo chown b00gz:b00gz /home/b00gz/.Xauthority" - then try startx
[04:11] <NthDegree> there's a glitch in the live installer regarding partitioning
[04:11] <NthDegree> not sure if it was ever fixed
[04:12] <Krhis> The swap space thing?
[04:13] <b00gz1> Madpilot "Creating new authority file /home/b00gz/.serverauth.11058 error in locking .Xauthority
[04:13] <Lichte> the installer is configuring stuff now
[04:13] <Ignite__> Lichte, there are the "Desktop Install CD" for simpler installations, most things are automated so you don't have that much control over the install, there is the "Alternate Install CD" for when you need a lot of control over the installation, its just doing its automated stuff so... it _should_ be doing it :P
[04:13] <Madpilot> b00gz1, there's something badly wrong with your Ubuntu install... did you do a standard install of Ubuntu?
[04:13] <b00gz1> yes sir.  I was in it and rebooted it I didn't change anything (that I am aware of) and this happened
[04:13] <technel> Is sendmail going to be a nightmare to set up on Ubuntu? There are no wiki articles, I downloaded the package, but I want to test the default configuration (crossing my fingers, don't really want to get messy with this tonight)
[04:14] <Lichte> Ignite__: I"m sorry, it should NEVER scan disks after it's been told not to, I don't care how automated it is
[04:14] <b00gz1> Madpilot.  I was in it and rebooted it I didn't change anything (that I am aware of) and this happened
[04:14] <Lichte> Ignite__: install methods should have nothing to do with that
[04:14] <b00gz1> Madpilot after serveral weeks of use
[04:15] <Ignite__> Lichte, but you didn't tell it not to.. you told it not to mount them, not to format them and not to use them, the checking is just an automated part of the installer
[04:15] <Lichte> Ignite__: and after it's been told to not mount of modify them, it shouldn't be checking them either
[04:16] <Lichte> the only reason to check them is if you're going to mount them
[04:16] <claferri> hello
[04:16] <claferri> i've just installed ubuntu and i was wondering if i could have more "details" during the boot process (like a debian does) ?
[04:17] <claferri> i already search a bit on google, nothing found yet
[04:17] <Ignite__> Lichte, if you want such a fine degree of control over the installer then thats what the alternate install is for, i have to help my mum, she is ill so i will talk later, best of luck with ubuntu
[04:17] <interfear> ubuntu is so dam cool
[04:17] <Lichte> interfear: so far, it sucks
[04:18] <interfear> Lichte: problems?
[04:18] <Madpilot> b00gz1, do the chown command I showed you, then the ls -l command - is .Xauthority still owned by root?
[04:18] <interfear> I coudlnt even get ubuntu to boot last version.. for some reason this version works
[04:18] <b00gz1> Madpilot nope by b00gz
[04:18] <Lichte> interfear: yeah, last version would lock up on me after a few minutes of operation
[04:19] <Madpilot> b00gz1, and startx still doesn't work?
[04:19] <Lichte> interfear: it seem to at least be running this version
[04:19] <dfgas> what do i install to view mac shares on my computer
[04:19] <interfear> I havent had any problems really so far, the 64bit version was giving some problems
[04:19] <ben__> claferri, im not sure but if you try removing usplash it might show like debian
[04:20] <b00gz1> Madpilot correct same error about creating new random serverauth file and then Server Error
[04:20] <claferri> ben__: sorry i forgot to tell, i've just remove usplash of course, i dont have the splash screen with ubuntu logo
[04:20] <inthemedium> the installer keeps crashing on me. md5sum is segfaulting, then apt, then local-gen. any ideas?
[04:20] <claferri> but still the same info
[04:20] <Madpilot> b00gz1, fun... this usually isn't needed, but do "sudo shutdown -r now" to restart the whole damn box, and see what happens
[04:20] <tanlaan> what can i use to play .rm video files?
[04:21] <claferri> but i've just read that i have to remove "splash" from the menu.lst grub
[04:21] <claferri> on the boot line
[04:21] <claferri> i'm gonna test, i think it could make it
[04:21] <phlexy> could anyone tell me what program I use to read/write to the ext3 filesystem off windows?
[04:21] <b00gz1> ok brb
[04:21] <Lichte> time to reboot.......later all
[04:22] <DBO> phlexy, http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[04:23] <hyperstream> hmm why cant i run xsane as a user to get my brother DCP - 115c working... i have to run it as root in a terminal. im in the 'scanner' group as well
[04:24] <tanlaan> i need help getting realplayer installed. I used "sudo apt-get install realplay" and ive also tried realplayer instead of realplay. But it cant find the package. I attempted to get the multiverse thing to work, but apparently it didnt
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> okay, I'm doing a dist-upgrade to dapper from breezy
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> and I get this lovely message:
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> Reading package lists... Done
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> Calculating upgrade... Done
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[04:24] <Shadowpillar>   gimp gimp-svg gimp-texturize gimp-ufraw ubuntu-desktop
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> what's the deal?
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> also, it shows like only 20 updates
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> are there hardly any actual packages on disk anymore?
[04:26] <Madpilot> !paste
[04:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:26] <Shadowpillar> ...
[04:26] <Shadowpillar> wow.
[04:26] <Shadowpillar> aahh hell.
[04:26] <b00gz1> Madpilot here is the error at bootup creating new serverauth.#, X: warning: process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0 giving up, Connection refused errno 111 unable to connect to X server, no such process errno 3 Server Error
[04:26] <Shadowpillar> no wonder it was taking forever to upgrade
[04:26] <Shadowpillar> there arent many packages on the disk anymore
[04:26] <Shadowpillar> well, aint that just lovely?
[04:26] <javiolo> an app needs xlib support, how do I know if I have the libs _
[04:26] <DBO> Shadowline, the disks only have so much room
[04:27] <regeya> quite lovely Shadowpillar
[04:27] <Shadowpillar> I know
[04:27] <Shadowpillar> and now that they've put both the livecd and the normal disk together
[04:27] <Shadowpillar> none
[04:27] <Madpilot> b00gz1, I really have no idea what's wrong with your Ubuntu install - sorry. Usually that .Xauthority error is easy to fix...
[04:27] <b00gz1> Madpilot ok thanks!
[04:28] <javiolo> !xlib
[04:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about xlib - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:28] <Shadowpillar> why did they do that anyway?
[04:28] <Shadowpillar> that's why I liked ubuntu, I could just install from the disk
[04:28] <DBO> !info xlibx > javiolo
[04:28] <ubotu> Package xlibx does not exist in dapper
[04:28] <DBO> !info xlibs > javiolo
[04:28] <ubotu> Package xlibs does not exist in dapper
[04:28] <DBO> yes it does!
[04:28] <javiolo> agh
[04:28] <regeya> Shadowpillar: are you on dialup?  if so, do you have a friend/library/school/work workstation that allows you to plug in a usb disk?  if all this is true, look into apt-zip.  I use it; run apt-get update, plug in my disk, run apt-zip-list, unmount and go to work, run the bash script written by apt-zip, take the disk home at the end of the day, and run apt-zip-inst there.
[04:29] <NthDegree> !info libx
[04:29] <ubotu> Package libx does not exist in dapper
[04:29] <NthDegree> !info libgtk
[04:29] <ubotu> Package libgtk does not exist in dapper
[04:29] <javiolo> DBO maybe it has another name
[04:29] <DBO> no, I am looking at it in apt-cache right now
[04:29] <NthDegree> !info libsepol
[04:29] <ubotu> Package libsepol does not exist in dapper
[04:29] <Shadowpillar> I'd prolly be better off hauling my comp down to my friend's place
[04:29] <kennyt> anyone know what it means when a mac's target disk mode fails silently and the openfirmware-based manual command errors "can't OPEN FIREWIRE\n\nTARGET-MODE init failed" ?
[04:29] <DBO> javiolo, sudo apt-get install xlibs
[04:29] <javiolo> dbo thanks
[04:29] <dfgas> anyone know how to mount a mac share?
[04:30] <tanlaan> think anyone could help me install real player?
[04:30] <DBO> dfgas, is it a samba share or NFS?
[04:30] <dfgas> appletalk
[04:30] <javiolo> dbo it doesnt appear, I have all the repos activated...
[04:31] <DBO> javiolo, get libx11-6
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> also, I may be purchasing a 64 bit system soon
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> how do I run apps like wine?
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> and are there 64 bit nvidia drivers for ubuntu?
[04:31] <torrentwoes> can i chat using a mike with MSN/GAIM?
[04:32] <javiolo> dbo already installed! I dont know now why the make fails, it says error 2
[04:32] <DBO> javiolo, maybe if you gave me the error in pastebin
[04:32] <javiolo> ok
[04:32] <DBO> javiolo, install libx11-dev, I didnt know you were compiling either
[04:32] <inthemedium> My installer keeps on crashing check out my syslog file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18053
[04:33] <javiolo> dbo also installed
[04:33] <DBO> javiolo, ok, lemme see the errors
[04:33] <inthemedium> any ideas?
[04:33] <Shadowpillar> anyone?
[04:34] <DBO> Shadowline, there are 64 bit drivers, but running a 32 bit system, even on a 64bit CPU, is probably easier right now
[04:35] <phpError> Could any one point me in the right direction to creating a GRUB boot disk, for a floppy?
[04:35] <DBO> !grub > phpError
[04:36] <phpError> Thanks DBO,
[04:36] <torrentwoes> is there anyway to get voice chat on MSN in ubuntu?
[04:36] <vicfred> hi
[04:36] <javiolo> dbo pastebin.ca/88564
[04:36] <HBK> ayuda
[04:36] <javiolo> !es
[04:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:37] <DBO> javiolo, are you sure that link is right?
[04:37] <technel> Is sendmail going to be a nightmare to set up on Ubuntu? There are no wiki articles, I downloaded the package, but I want to test the default configuration (crossing my fingers, don't really want to get messy with this tonight)
[04:37] <javiolo> torrentwoes try mercury
[04:37] <torrentwoes> ta
[04:38] <whitesuit> torrentwoes: it seems not , you can use a webcam though
[04:38] <javiolo> dbo it was wrong pastebin.ca/88546
[04:38] <DBO> technel, sendmail is ALWAYS a nightmare to setup, but its no more difficult in ubuntu than any other distro
[04:38] <whitesuit> i've already tried all clients, never found one with voice support
[04:39] <torrentwoes> i would have thought voice and web chats would be integral to establishing oneself
[04:39] <whitesuit> i dont know, but just voice chat isnt possible
[04:39] <DBO> javiolo, sudo apt-get install libxft-dev
[04:39] <Shadowpillar> and are there 64 bit nvidia drivers for ubuntu?
[04:40] <DBO> Shadowpillar, yes
[04:40] <whitesuit> torrentwoes: you're better off using skype..
[04:40] <Krhis> I'm running it right now.
[04:40] <Heretician> welp
[04:40] <Heretician> still no ethernet
[04:40] <torrentwoes> cool
[04:40] <Heretician> and/or internet
[04:40] <torrentwoes> thanks
[04:41] <Heretician> ben__, it didnt even read my static IP
[04:41] <Shadowpillar> I found out wine doesn't play nice.
[04:41] <Shadowpillar> hrmmm
[04:41] <Shadowpillar> and yes I do use wine for misc apps
[04:41] <Vexmaster> is there any support for Kubuntu on this channel?
[04:41] <Shadowpillar> mostly opencanvas and games
[04:41] <wheels3572> How do I find out the password for su - or su -- ?
[04:42] <Shadowpillar> also
[04:42] <Samus_Aran> well my net connection just died.  I was asking: how can I install PINE on an Ubuntu system ?  I am quite surprised to not find it in any of the package repositories, including multiverse and universe, though I don't see why it would not be in the base one
[04:42] <DBO> !root > wheels3572
[04:42] <Vexmaster> type "sudo passwd su"
[04:42] <Shadowpillar> is there a way to upgrade everything from a 32 bit system to a 64 bit system?
[04:42] <wheels3572> thank you
[04:42] <DBO> Vexmaster, please dont give that command out, sudo is more secure =)
[04:42] <Shadowpillar> aka 32 bit ubuntu to 64 bit
[04:42] <Samus_Aran> wheels3572: there is no logging in as root user by default on ubuntu, though you can get to a root shell if you like
[04:42] <DBO> no
[04:43] <DBO> Shadowpillar, no
[04:43] <Vexmaster> srry DBO
[04:43] <javiolo> !pine
[04:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about pine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:43] <Shadowpillar> Vexmaster: and sudo passwd su wouldnt work
[04:43] <Samus_Aran> wheels3572: sudo <command> is the normal method for running root commands on Ubuntu
[04:43] <Shadowpillar> DBO: so you couldnt do a dist-upgrade?
[04:43] <Shadowpillar> DBO: luckily 32 bit will still work for the time being
[04:43] <Samus_Aran> javiolo: I was thinking to try asking the bot, heh.  alas, it knows not
[04:44] <Vexmaster> bye
[04:44] <duryan> hi all, anyone knows how to make gnome-terminal maximised everytime I launch it?
[04:45] <wheels3572> so the su -- command under 5.10 has been locked out and Sudo is now used instead with the username password?
[04:45] <Samus_Aran> hm, "Eric Dunbar asked is Pine was available in any version of Ubuntu. Unfortunately, the answer is no because Pine is not free or open source and Ubuntu cannot support it."
[04:45] <javiolo> dbo I dont know if worked or not it makes a make errors...
[04:45] <ben__> sudo passwd if you want to use su
[04:45] <DBO> javiolo, let me see the new errors
[04:45] <Samus_Aran> but PINE is open source, just not under the GPL.
[04:45] <kwtm> How can I run "gpg-agent" in Ubuntu?  It doesn't seem to be installed (even though I've installed GnuPG and kgpg), and I can't figure out which package it's in.
[04:46] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell kwtm about gpg
[04:46] <wheels3572> ok ty
[04:46] <kwtm> Samus_Aran: Are you sure?  I didn't realize PINE was open source.  Do you just mean that the source is available?  It's by university of washington, right?
[04:46] <hyperstream> hello im just wondering ive got ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant (for wpa encryption) all goes fine and runs but the signal is on 0% and the net is dead slow. yet in windows my netgear wg111t works rather nicely. ive tried adding my usb extention cable and moving it round high lower etc nothing changes.
[04:46] <javiolo> dbo one sec please I created the deb and seems its working...
[04:47] <DBO> javiolo, ok, sounds good
[04:47] <Samus_Aran> kwtm: the source is available for anyone to build, but it is released under a license by the university of washington
[04:47] <hyperstream> hello im just wondering ive got ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant (for wpa encryption) all goes fine and runs but the signal is on 0% and the net is dead slow. yet in windows my netgear wg111t works rather nicely. ive tried adding my usb extention cable and moving it round high lower etc nothing changes.
[04:47] <wheels3572> Secondly:  I am confused on how to automatically mount an Fat32 Partition on Bootup in Dapper.  Do I have to make a directory for it first THEN add it to the fstab as stated?
[04:47] <Heretician> anyone know how to find out if I have a  PPPoE Cable modem? I Dont think I do...
[04:47] <kwtm> Madpilot: Do you know why it can't find the command when I try to run "gpg-agent"?  I guess that's my real question.
[04:48] <DBO> Heretician, you have cable right, not DSL
[04:48] <Heretician> cable
[04:48] <DBO> Heretician, its not pppoe
[04:48] <Heretician> oh ..
[04:48] <DBO> pppoe is DSL
[04:48] <Heretician> well then i cant find a guide on how to get my internet working
[04:48] <Samus_Aran> wheels3572: yes, create the mount point first, add it to /etc/fstab, set the option "auto" if you want it to mount itself on bootup.  also set it to check for errors after a crash, unless you use Win32 ScanDisk or similar already
[04:48] <Heretician> from what ive gathered from the wiki, i need PPPoE :P
[04:48] <Madpilot> kwtm, not sure - are you certain that's the name of the app? I've got GPG working fine on this box, but "which gpg-agent" returns nothing at all...
[04:49] <DBO> Heretician, naw, it should be just a matter of plugging the cable in
[04:49] <Heretician> Its not.
[04:49] <kwtm> Samus_Aran: Okay.  But if you're not allowed to modify the source and redistribute, that means it's still not Open Source, right?  (I don't know whether the license is or not; I'm just saying that "source available" != "Open Source")
[04:49] <IcemanV9> Heretician: just plug the cable in and you're on the net
[04:49] <Heretician> nope nope
[04:49] <Heretician> having problems :(
[04:49] <Heretician> i usually needed drivers to be installed to get on the internet
[04:49] <DBO> Heretician, is your device showing up when you type ifconfig?
[04:49] <Heretician> if i was to format my pc and put wxp back on
[04:49] <rock-lobster> Heretician, what kind of internet do you have
[04:49] <Heretician> eth0 :)
[04:49] <Heretician> Adelphia Cable Internet
[04:49] <rock-lobster> Heretician, cable/dsl
[04:49] <kwtm> Madpilot: you told ubotu to tell me about gpg.  Ubotu told me.  I checked out the reply.  It says to use "gpg-agent", which is what I had been doing.  There is no such command.  Which is why I asked the question in the first place.
[04:50] <DBO> Heretician, is your modem USB?
[04:50] <rock-lobster> Heretician, is it connected with an ethernet cable?
[04:50] <Heretician> =) keep the questions coming, i usually dont get anyone answering me around here
[04:50] <rock-lobster> Heretician, and do you have dhcp set up?
[04:50] <Heretician> nooo lol
[04:50] <Heretician> ethernet
[04:50] <Madpilot> kwtm, that wiki page might not be up to date anymore - just a minute, I'll have a look at it
[04:50] <arvial_> hi
[04:50] <goggleBOX> I have an HP v2418AU laptop but I can not get the wireless to work. Has anyone has experience with this laptop?
[04:51] <rock-lobster> Heretician, paste output of 'cat /etc/network/interfaces' in a pastebin
[04:51] <Heretician> DHCP doesn't connect, and when i try Static IP with the same ip and stuff that is on this computer (Not using a KVM Switch or anything, simply switching everything from one computer to the other) it doesnt work
[04:51] <hyperstream> DBO,  you have any experience with wireless adapters? (usb)
[04:51] <wheels3572> Ok Samus but I am VERy new to Ubuntu so Where would I set auto in this line here as follows?
[04:51] <wheels3572> /dev/hda1       /media/partitionname  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       0
[04:51] <Heretician> er
[04:51] <rock-lobster> Heretician, do you get an error with dhcp?
[04:51] <DBO> hyperstream, i use one, but it just kinda worked
[04:51] <Heretician> that would take a bit of writing and/or copying to a CD :P
[04:51] <kwtm> Madpilot: in fact, I was using not that page but another page, http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html, to figure out how to configure kmail so that I wouldn't have to keep typing in my gpg password.
[04:51] <Heretician> nope
[04:51] <DBO> hyperstream, what issue you having?
[04:51] <hyperstream> ive got ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant (for wpa encryption) all goes fine and runs but the signal is on 0% and the net is dead slow. yet in windows my netgear wg111t works rather nicely. ive tried adding my usb extention cable and moving it round high lower etc nothing changes.
[04:51] <Samus_Aran> kwtm: I am not sure what the license allows, but yes, it is at least "source available"
[04:51] <Madpilot> kwtm, gpg-agent is a seperate package - you sure you've got it installed?
[04:51] <rock-lobster> Heretician, type 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[04:51] <Heretician> not that i know of, in Networking Tools it looks like its connected to 127.0.0.1 although I dont know much about networking at all
[04:52] <hyperstream> it bearly communicates with the router
[04:52] <Samus_Aran> kwtm: anyhow, I have found ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine_4.64_i386.deb which should do the trick
[04:52] <Heretician> ok
[04:52] <rock-lobster> Heretician, see if you get an error
[04:52] <Heretician> well ill be backi n like 5-10 mins
[04:52] <Heretician> let me write that down hehe
[04:52] <rock-lobster> no quote
[04:52] <hyperstream> i get 99% signal in windows
[04:52] <kwtm> Madpilot: I can't find the package named "gpg-agent"; do you know if that's the correct name?  It's not listed under Adept.
[04:52] <DBO> hyperstream, hmmm, sounds like somewhere along the line the tx power is getting turned down...
[04:52] <kwtm> Samus_Aran: Ah.  Okay, well, best of luck!
[04:52] <Madpilot> kwtm, actually, it's not... my mistake
[04:53] <rock-lobster> gnupg-agent, kwtm
[04:53] <DBO> hyperstream, if you type iwconfig what is you signal strength?
[04:53] <rock-lobster> kwtm, iirc
[04:53] <Glassius> when running apt-get build-dep for a package i get an "E: Build-dependencies for <package> could not be satisfied.", is there any way to fix this?
[04:53] <kwtm> rock-lobster: Ah!  Is that what it is!  Thanks, I'll try that.
[04:53] <DBO> hyperstream, Signal level I mean
[04:53] <Samus_Aran> kwtm: I prefer using open source applications, but I use whatever is most efficient for a given task .. and being that I've used PINE for 6 years now ... it kinda takes precedence over other e-mail apps
[04:53] <kwtm> rock-lobster: bingo!
[04:54] <hyperstream> ive read online that i need to load the athewmdl.inf(spelling) (firmware) but when i load that into ndiswrapper it states that the hardware isnt present for it. and if i remove and plug it back into the usb the netgear .inf hardware isnt present but the firmware drive says hardware is present and then i dont have a wlan0
[04:54] <haasteem> hello, i am having trouble playing dvd's in any application... i checked in windows and there all is fine so it is not the disks... can anyone give a hint where to look as to what might be wrong?
[04:54] <hyperstream> DBO,  ill just reenable my wireless i might have to reconnect tho as it cuts the irc etc. brb
[04:54] <rock-lobster> haasteem, do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[04:54] <wheels3572> Samus would you mind if I private messaged you?
[04:55] <kwtm> Samus_Aran: likewise.  I personally have used Pine over Mutt (I tried really hard to like Mutt, but I just couldn't).  I used to use Pico, until Nano came along.  I am all gung ho for GPL and OpenSource(tm) as long as I have the tools to get the work done and I don't have to spend 2 hours tinkering just to get a little work done.
[04:55] <Samus_Aran> DBO: thanks again, I think I have postfix running with my custom config now.  not sure why it exploded the first time I installed it a few weeks ago
[04:55] <DBO> Samus_Aran, well, best of luck to you
[04:56] <Samus_Aran> kwtm: I also tried to like Mutt.  it's feature list was impressive.  it's user interface and setup methods, however, was beyond cryptic
[04:56] <Samus_Aran> *were
[04:56] <hyperstream> DBO,  Link Quality:0/100  Signal level:-37 dBm  Noise level:-256 dBm
[04:56] <DBO> hmmm, that should be working ok
[04:57] <duryan> anyone know how to make gnome-terminal maximised everytime I launch it?
[04:57] <DBO> what Rate is it at hyperstream?
[04:57] <haasteem> rock-lobster: yes
[04:57] <wheels3572> Is this command suitable enough to auto mount on bootup?  /dev/hda1       /media/partitionname  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       0
[04:57] <hyperstream> 11mbit
[04:57] <hyperstream> Bit Rate:11 Mb/s
[04:57] <DBO> hyperstream, and the tx-power?
[04:57] <kwtm> pppoe_dude: Hey, please thank rock-lobster for the "gnupg-agent, not gpg-agent" tip!
[04:57] <kwtm> Bye, all!
[04:57] <pppoe_dude> later kwtm
[04:57] <hyperstream> how do i display tx-power?
[04:57] <Dattasmoon> is there a way to force a gigabit card to stay at gigabit speed?
[04:58] <pppoe_dude> hyperstream, iwconfig
[04:58] <hyperstream> doesnt say anything about tx power
[04:58] <hyperstream>  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[04:58] <hyperstream> keeping in mind that
[04:58] <pppoe_dude>           Bit Rate=0 kb/s   Tx-Power=off   Sensitivity=8/0
[04:58] <hyperstream> im still using my eth0 as my connection and not the wlan0 atm(its active and assigned a ip)
[04:58] <pppoe_dude> hyperstream, thats my output
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> and my card is off.. when its on it gives a number
[04:59] <hyperstream> mine doesnt say anything about tx-power and sensitivity
[04:59] <DBO> that all depends on the drivers
[04:59] <Smeggy> can anyone help me make my monitor stop setting fire to my eyes with its hideous refresh rate lol
[05:00] <Dattasmoon> the driver is r8169.ko
[05:00] <DBO> Smeggy, do you get any output from the command "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange"
[05:00] <hyperstream> DBO, hmm so is there anyother way to see what my Tx-Power is ?
[05:00] <kairu0> Smeggy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[05:00] <DBO> hyperstream, it appears your drivers dont support it
[05:00] <Smeggy> DBO, no i don't
[05:01] <hyperstream> hmm maybe thats why sites are saying i need to load the firmware driver as well into ndiswrapper ?
[05:01] <Heretician> Erm
[05:01] <Smeggy> it's a 22" crt... supports 1600x1200 at 100hz
[05:01] <Heretician> forgot the persons name who was helping me.. Are you thereee?
[05:01] <DBO> Smeggy, who made it?
[05:01] <Smeggy> and i get that just fine in osx and windows... but ubuntu only wants to go to 85hz
[05:01] <kabobuntu> Heretician, yes
[05:01] <Smeggy> DBO, Philips
[05:02] <Smeggy> the modelines are correct
[05:02] <DBO> Smeggy, 85hz hurts your eyes???
[05:02] <Smeggy> thanks kairu0
[05:02] <Smeggy> DBO, I have very poor eyesight.. yeah
[05:02] <Heretician> ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[05:02] <freakzoid0223> get an lcd panel
[05:02] <DBO> Smeggy, if the modelines are right it should work...
[05:02] <hyperstream> Heretician,  SUDO
[05:02] <Heretician> i did
[05:02] <Heretician> sudo ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[05:02] <kabobuntu> Heretician, did u do 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0'?
[05:02] <Smeggy> DBO, it's only going to 85hz... and the only refresh rate that appears in the graphical res changer is 85hz
[05:02] <Heretician> oh
[05:02] <Heretician> CRAP :(
[05:02] <Samus_Aran> can someone tell me what 127.0.1.1 is ?  Ubuntu has it in /etc/hosts, I've never seen a distro use something other than 127.0.0.1
[05:03] <kabobuntu> lol
[05:03] <Heretician> well no error with ifdown!
[05:03] <kabobuntu> heh
[05:03] <Heretician> be back ;/
[05:03] <Smeggy> DBO, I actually tried to force it at one point by setting the resolution to "1600x1200_100" as i've heard you can do
[05:03] <kabobuntu> you can also try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:03] <Smeggy> But that didn't work
[05:03] <kabobuntu> as sudo
[05:03] <Dattasmoon> 127.0.0.1 = home, loopback connection
[05:03] <Samus_Aran> Dattasmoon: read my question a bit closer
[05:04] <Dattasmoon> oh 1.1
[05:04] <Dattasmoon> thought was typo
[05:04] <olrrai_1> i mount a vfat partition but cant write on it with a smb client
[05:04] <polpak> Samus_Aran: it's also loopback. I don't know why there's the distinction however
[05:04] <Samus_Aran> Ubuntu added for me: "127.0.0.1  localhost" and "127.0.1.1  atu"
[05:05] <Samus_Aran> I've always just stuck my hostnames as 127.0.0.1
[05:05] <IcemanV9> Samus_Aran: i have same thing in mine as well - 0.1 & 1.1; these are just loop connections
[05:08] <kabobuntu> !ping
[05:08] <ubotu> pong
[05:08] <olrrai_1> anyone knows how to mount a local vfat partition as rw for smb clients ?
[05:09] <jiSh> any ideas why all of my torrents randomly shoot up to 60kb/s or more and drp back down to 0kb/s ,..in multiple clients
[05:09] <jiSh> ports are forwarded on router
[05:09] <jiSh> no firewall software installed
[05:10] <jiSh> something else ubuntu hates? :O
[05:10] <Heretician> no errors
[05:10] <jiSh> nope
[05:10] <olrrai> anyone knows how to mount a local vfat partition as rw for smb clients ? I can do it only for ext3 partitions
[05:11] <Warbo> jiSh: You disabled IPTables?
[05:11] <jiSh> whats that
[05:11] <Warbo> jiSh: The firewall that comes with Ubuntu
[05:11] <Eclipse_GSX> just got ubuntu installed...looks good so far...
[05:11] <jiSh> really eh
[05:11] <IcemanV9> iptables = firewall
[05:11] <jiSh> how do i disable this
[05:11] <Samus_Aran> olrrai: just mount the FAT32 partition as rw, and then set Samba to use the share as read/write
[05:11] <Warbo> jiSh: You can configure it with firestarter
[05:11] <Heretician> lucky you Eclipse_GSX.. You got the internet workin!
[05:11] <Warbo> !iptables
[05:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[05:12] <Samus_Aran> olrrai: read/write is default for FAT32 mounts
[05:12] <kabobuntu> Heretician, no errors?
[05:12] <Heretician> Nope
[05:12] <ic56> lynx
[05:12] <jiSh> i dont have firestarted installed though
[05:12] <kabobuntu> Heretician, did it give you "bound to ip <ip>?
[05:12] <jiSh> firestarter
[05:12] <Heretician> it was sending and receiving with eth0 ?
[05:12] <Samus_Aran> olrrai: or just add "rw" in the options for the mount in /etc/fstab
[05:12] <olrrai> Samus_Aran: how to do is when linux start?
[05:12] <Heretician> dont think so
[05:12] <Heretician> it did give me alot of stuff though
[05:12] <Eclipse_GSX> Heretician: lol im using my laptop for irc....so no not yet...
[05:12] <Heretician> 15-20 lines
[05:12] <olrrai> Samus_Aran: how to do it when linux starts?
[05:12] <kabobuntu> hrmmm
[05:12] <Samus_Aran> olrrai: add the option "auto" and it will auto-mount on bootup
[05:12] <Warbo> jiSh: Then you can install it "sudo apt-get install firestarter" or use IPTables config files (shudder)
[05:12] <Samus_Aran> olrrai: so together they would be: auto,rw
[05:13] <polpak> Warbo: they're really not that bad for most things
[05:13] <jiSh> alright thanks
[05:13] <olrrai> Samus_Aran: thanks!
[05:13] <Warbo> polpak: I haven't got my head around IPTables one
[05:13] <Heretician> I am used to installing drivers though, kabobuntu ;/
[05:13] <brownegg> anyone installed ubuntu on a mac mini?
[05:13] <Warbo> brownegg: Are Mac Minis all Intel based?
[05:13] <thma> I just installed off of DVD, I would like to say i appreciated it finding my existing grub info and loading that. but why isnt anything good installed the dvd wag over 3 Gb
[05:13] <Samus_Aran> olrrai: it should look something like this in your fstab file: /dev/whatever  /  vfat  auto,rw  0  2
[05:14] <rever> Hi I have bittorrent installed and it says it is version 3.4.2-6ubuntu2 the latest on the bittorrent website is 4.20.4 is this really that old?
[05:14] <Eclipse_GSX> Warbo: yea
[05:14] <Warbo> Just curious
[05:14] <kabobuntu> Heretician, u sure the cable is good?
[05:14] <polpak> Warbo: I haven't found a gui configuration tool that had anywhere near the features I need from iptables (when I use it)
[05:14] <Heretician> its working right now, kabobuntu
[05:14] <olrrai> Samus_Aran: perfect!
[05:14] <brownegg> the new ones are
[05:14] <Jamo> what do I do if a machine refuses to boot off the CDRom?
[05:14] <jiSh> seems weird you haev to install a firewall to turn it off ;D
[05:14] <brownegg> i have one that's power c
[05:14] <Heretician> on this pc :P
[05:14] <kabobuntu> k
[05:15] <Dattasmoon> is there a way to force a gigabit card to only use gigabit?
[05:15] <Heretician> i switch all the cables over from one pc to another hehe
[05:15] <Samus_Aran> rever: http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe azureus 2.4.0.2-0ubuntu2 [5817kB] 
[05:15] <kabobuntu> Dattasmoon, try ethtool
[05:15] <Samus_Aran> rever: that is what my apt has
[05:15] <Warbo> brownegg: Ah, I was just wondering when they came out. If they are PowerPC I may get one :)
[05:15] <jbxyo> where is the directory of apache i forget :P
[05:15] <rever> Samus_Aran, Azureus is not working on my dapper install
[05:15] <thma> is there a way to install more content straight from dvd
[05:16] <Samus_Aran> olrrai: if you want to test the new entry in /etc/fstab, you can use this command: sudo mount -a
[05:16] <Warbo>  /var/www I think
[05:16] <jbxyo> ok
[05:16] <hyperstream> is it possible to extract the files from a setup.exe ?
[05:16] <coucho> hi
[05:16] <hyperstream> say some drivers
[05:16] <Samus_Aran> olrrai: that will attemp to mount all entries listed in /etc/fstab that aren't already mounted, and are not set "noauto"
[05:16] <thma> /var/www is default apache but i have seen it all over the place
[05:16] <Flannel> jbxyo: which directory do you want? config?  web files? what?
[05:16] <kabobuntu> hyperstream, wine
[05:16] <Dial_tone> what apps can converet aac to mp3?
[05:16] <jbxyo> webfiles
[05:16] <jbxyo> the server file that appear on my server
[05:16] <Heretician> So, you dont know whats wrong then kabobuntu?
[05:16] <Samus_Aran> Dial_tone: mencoder
[05:16] <Flannel> jbxyo: yeah, /var/www by default.  You can check in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[05:16] <Warbo> thma: The DVD should be a repository in your APT configuration. If so then just fire up a package manager. If not then add it, or go in the "pool" directory and install the .deb files manually
[05:16] <jiSh> alright this firewall business made no difference
[05:16] <Jamo> is there a boot floppy that will assist in booting off a CD? *the machine won't boot directly off the CD
[05:17] <jbxyo> ok thx
[05:17] <coucho> cwillu?
[05:17] <kabobuntu> Heretician, not at the moment no
[05:17] <Dattasmoon> i just did, "sudo ethttol -s eth1 speed 1000" but when i do ethtool eth1, it still says speed is 100mb/s does that mean that i cannot force it into gigabit mode?
[05:17] <rever> Samus_Aran, I have always like azureus but I get a blank screen when I start it
[05:17] <Flannel> Jamo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[05:17] <thma> Warbo: is there an option to select during install?
[05:17] <Samus_Aran> Dial_tone: alternatively you can dump the aac to wav and then use any conversion utility you like, such as oggenc or lame
[05:17] <IcemanV9> Heretician: does your network card LED is blinking or not?
[05:17] <brownegg> i'm pretty sure the current ones are intel
[05:17] <Samus_Aran> rever: what sort of blank screen ?
[05:17] <kabobuntu> Dattasmoon, that seems like there another interface on the network that is forcing it to 100 mode
[05:18] <Dial_tone> ahh, forgot about wav
[05:18] <Samus_Aran> rever: do you get the splash screen (a small window that gives information about what is being loaded)
[05:18] <jbxyo> You know a good html editor ?
[05:18] <Flannel> Jamo: first thing on that page under advanced, Smart Boot Manager
[05:18] <Warbo> thma: No. There is only the choice of k/x/ubuntu (depending on the disc) and server or regular (that may only be on the text one though)
[05:18] <Warbo> jbxyo: Bluefish=non-wysiwig nvu=wysiwyg
[05:18] <Flannel> jbxyo: nvu is a WYSIWYG, but almost any text editor is a good webeditor
[05:18] <coucho> i'm wondering if i can update to dapper without having to reconfigure everything, is that possible?
[05:18] <Dattasmoon> kabobuntu, thanks for the info
[05:18] <jbxyo> ok
[05:18] <rever> Samus_Aran, Yes I get the splash with the frog. THen a box pops up and nothing shows . I cannot do anything
[05:18] <thma> ko ty
[05:18] <thma> ok*
[05:18] <Jamo> FLannel: thanks
[05:18] <kabobuntu> jbxyo, mozilla composer
[05:18] <Samus_Aran> jbxyo: http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/ and http://www.nvu.com/ are the most popular
[05:18] <kabobuntu> jbxyo, nvu is a more complicated version of mc
[05:19] <jbxyo> ...yah but nvu is look like mozzila composer
[05:19] <Samus_Aran> jbxyo: Mozilla or Netscape Composer are decent for small jobs as well
[05:19] <Warbo> kabobuntu: Mozilla Composer is just Nvu but without decent widgets
[05:19] <kabobuntu> from my experience nvu is bloated
[05:19] <kabobuntu> mc is a bit faster and crashes less often
[05:19] <Warbo> kabobuntu: And you recommend MOZILLA? :)
[05:19] <Flannel> kabobuntu: I think bloat is a prerequisite of WYSIWYG ;)
[05:19] <Samus_Aran> if you're in any way concerned about bloat, you shouldn't be using any HTML editor, heh
[05:20] <kabobuntu> and is really good for small jobs like Samus_Aran said
[05:20] <Samus_Aran> use Vim or EMACS or any of the 3000 other text editors
 Heretician: does your network card LED is blinking or not? - Yeah, it is
[05:20] <kabobuntu> Warbo, mozilla composer is less bloated than nvu
[05:20] <Samus_Aran> kabobuntu: most people these days have heaps of RAM and CPU to spend
[05:21] <kabobuntu> Samus_Aran, not me
[05:21] <RunsWithScissors> Does anyone know if chown & chgrp follow symlinks in Ubuntu?
[05:21] <IcemanV9> Heretician: sudo dhclient eth0 (basically the same as "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0"
[05:21] <Warbo> kabobuntu: Mozilla composer is part of mozilla. Therefore it is in itself bloat, since Mozilla is supposed to be a web brwoser. Thankfully they now have Thunderbird, Firefox and Nvu seperate (Nvu is basically GTK Mozilla Composer)
[05:21] <IcemanV9> )
[05:21] <kabobuntu> Warbo, i am quite familiar with nvu... im just saying it has some unnecessary extra features
[05:21] <Heretician> and come back to you if there are errors? Because I have to turn off this pc and switch everything back
[05:21] <Eclipse_GSX> internet works fine...
[05:22] <Heretician> Good for you Eclipse_GSX :P Seems to be hating me
[05:22] <IcemanV9> Heretician: i'll be here for a while 
[05:22] <Samus_Aran> kabobuntu: I am currently using 778MiB of 1264MiB RAM and 71MiB of 5773MiB swap, you ?
[05:22] <Warbo> kabobuntu: As far as I can see Netscape had to add loads of features to justify a price tag, but when it became open source these were just bloat and now they are being seperated out (1 program for 1 task)
[05:22] <kabobuntu> Warbo, for the average person who wants a wysiwyg html editor, composer is usually good enough... but i guess youd have to install mozilla with it too
[05:22] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: that isn't specific to Ubuntu
[05:22] <kabobuntu> Warbo, nvu is not mozilla
[05:22] <nothingman> hi, all
[05:23] <coucho> hi
[05:23] <Warbo> kabobuntu: Yes but the interfaces are virtually identical
[05:23] <kabobuntu> Samus_Aran, i have 512mb ram, 72% in use
[05:23] <nothingman> has anyone here had experience with a Xinerama setup or an S3 card not working after upgrading to Dapper?
[05:23] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: they will change the permissions of the symlinks themselves, which will have no effect.  you can probably use --dereference if you want
[05:23] <polpak> kabobuntu: the Scream HTML editor seems to work pretty well also for a wysiwyg
[05:23] <kabobuntu> quanta is good too
[05:23] <kabobuntu> *quanta+
[05:24] <Shadowpillar> every time I see quanta, I think quantas or quantum
[05:24] <poje> Okay: I plugged in this external HDD I am trying to fix for my friend and under dmesg I see references to sda, sda1, and sg0 - how do I know which one to reference when using gpart?
[05:24] <Warbo> One problem I have with Nvu is that I can't set up a site locally, it insists on having an FTP address which I don't have :(
[05:24] <kabobuntu> poje, sda
[05:24] <kabobuntu> poje, sda1 is just a partition probably
[05:24] <RunsWithScissors> Samus_Aran: But setting permissions on the symlinks will prevent access to the files from that particular folder, correct?
[05:24] <Samus_Aran> those are at http://www.screem.org/ and http://quanta.sourceforge.net/ respectively
[05:24] <jbxyo> Why I can't modify /var/www/ (apache)
[05:24] <Shadowpillar> kabobuntu: how much swap are you using?
[05:24] <Shadowpillar> ps
[05:24] <Shadowpillar> Metroid Ftw
[05:24] <Warbo> jbxyo: They are not owned by your user
[05:24] <rever> How can I add suns java to my eviroment variable. I have downloaded the latest but the old one keeps getting pivked up
[05:25] <poje> kabobuntu: I think it hasn't been touched and should just be one partition (120GB); there are also refs to all three in /dev
[05:25] <kabobuntu> Shadowpillar, Swap:  2048276k total,   247972k used,  1800304k free,
[05:25] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: symlinks can't have permissions of their own, they are just pointers to another location, the permissions depend on that other location
[05:25] <Warbo> jbxyo: Use sudo before doing anything to them
[05:25] <jbxyo> Ok
[05:25] <Warbo> !rootsudo
[05:25] <kabobuntu> poje, /sda1 can be a partition using the whole disk
[05:25] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:25] <Shadowpillar> kabobuntu: because with linux, what you should watch is how much you're swapping
[05:25] <kabobuntu> */dev/sda1
[05:25] <Warbo> Shadowpillar: Speaking of which, did I delete that 20GB swap file?........
[05:26] <kabobuntu> Shadowpillar, i usually dont swap a lot unless i open up windows that have been minimised for a week
[05:26] <RunsWithScissors> Samus_Aran: So I'll have to track down the links and set the permissions individually?
[05:26] <Shadowpillar> Warbo: what 20 gb swap file?
[05:26] <Rewbin> hrm
[05:26] <poje> kabobuntu: kay, so when I run gpart I use /dev/sda?
[05:26] <Rewbin> the graphics are pretty slow
[05:26] <Shadowpillar> kabobuntu: that's good
[05:26] <Shadowpillar> kabobuntu: it's when you're swapping is when it's bad
[05:26] <kabobuntu> poje, /dev/sda is the device itself
[05:26] <Warbo> Shadowpillar: The one I temporarily created so I could compress a filesystem with 7zip for a LiveCD
[05:26] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: the --dereference switch is used to treat symlinks as if they were the file they point to
[05:26] <Rewbin> oops wrong channel
[05:26] <poje> kabobuntu: awesome, thank you
[05:26] <Kirk_> Hello
[05:26] <Shadowpillar> Warbo: I have no clue, I wasnt in here
[05:26] <Kirk_> I'm having a problem.
[05:26] <kabobuntu> poje, like how hda is your harddisk device
[05:26] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: it is available for most commands that deal with symlinks
[05:26] <kabobuntu> poje, and hda1, hda3, etc are the partitions
[05:26] <poje> kabobuntu: right
[05:26] <Warbo> Shadowpillar: Took ages but it was worth it
[05:27] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: e.g. cp, tar, etc.
[05:27] <Kirk_> Does anyone know how to configure Bind9?  I need to make subdomains off of "s1.alphahertz.com" work.
[05:27] <Shadowpillar> Warbo: ...dude.. I have no idea what you're talking about
[05:27] <RunsWithScissors> Samus_Aran: Ok, that sounds good to me. Thank You for your time
[05:27] <jbxyo> !apache
[05:27] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:27] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: welcome
[05:27] <Shadowpillar> Warbo: you're talking to the wrong person, unless you're just being a troll
[05:27] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: just be careful if it is a symlink to a directory
[05:27] <RunsWithScissors> Samus_Aran: Why?
[05:27] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: you could inadvertantly end up changing permissions of a whole section of your filesystem you didn't mean to
[05:28] <RunsWithScissors> Samus_Aran: Ah...
[05:28] <Shadowpillar> ls -l
[05:28] <Shadowpillar> ls -l | grep www in /var
[05:28] <Shadowpillar> if it's bright blue then it's a sym
[05:28] <Shadowpillar> and it'll show where it links to
[05:28] <phunkalicious> can someone help me with my problem here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212341
[05:29] <Warbo> Shadowpillar: You were talking about minimising swap usage, so I htought I'd let you know some of the stupid stuff I do to my system :)
[05:29] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: apparently chmod doesn't have this option, my guess is that is to prevent mistakes like what I just suggested.  you could use find
[05:29] <RunsWithScissors> Note to self: Careful with the --dereference switch on directories
[05:29] <RunsWithScissors> Note to self: Scratch that
[05:30] <rever> Samus_Aran, Sorry I got it working issue with java version.
[05:30] <Samus_Aran> rever: ah, good
[05:30] <coucho> can anyone tell me if i have to reconfigure everything if i upgrade to dapper?
[05:30] <Warbo> coucho: Not usually
[05:30] <nothingman> I can't seem to get my s3virge cards working; this is only since upgrading to Dapper and Xorg 7.0
[05:30] <Consty> coucho: you mean like user preferences and such?
[05:31] <nothingman> coucho: do you have a Xinerama setup?
[05:31] <ZyZuX> www.hotmail.com
[05:31] <coucho> Consty: it's my server, i don't wanna lose anything
[05:31] <Warbo> coucho: Unless you format your drive and reinstall
[05:31] <coucho> nothingman: what is that?
[05:31] <nothingman> coucho: what are you serving?
[05:31] <Warbo> soup
[05:31] <nothingman> coucho: if you don't know, you don't have it :-P
[05:31] <Consty> coucho: ah.  just upgrade then.. I was going to say user preferences can be saved if your /home partition is a seperate partition.. then reinstall from scratch with dapper but dont format your /home and just have the installer remount it
[05:31] <coucho> nothingman: pretty much your basic lamp server
[05:31] <Consty> coucho: nice thing to do for desktop systems.
[05:31] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: find -L will dereference symlinks, so you could do a command line like: find . -L -exec echo chmod a+rwX {} ';'
[05:32] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: remove the echo if the commands look correct
[05:32] <nothingman> coucho: I had a small problem with MySQL because of my Mythbackend running on the first machine I upgraded
[05:32] <nothingman> coucho: got it resolved; don't even remember what it was at this point
[05:33] <coucho> i don't use mythbackend
[05:33] <RunsWithScissors> Samus_Aran: Is it true that if i want to prevent arbitrary deletions in a directory but still make it public I should change the "sticky bit" of the directory so users can only delete their own files?
[05:33] <coucho> Consty: /var/www is safe?
[05:33] <mehdi> hello can anyone tell me how i cam write on a ntfs drive frome my ubuntu
[05:33] <Consty> coucho: not if you're reinstalling no
[05:33] <Heretician> that look faulty iceman?
[05:33] <coucho> Consty: but if i just use the update manager?
[05:33] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: the sticky bit on directories allows anyone to create files, delete their own files, but not delete anyone elses files
[05:34] <acebo> coucho: when in doubt, back it up
[05:34] <Shadowpillar> RunsWithScissors: okay, what's the entire problem?
[05:34] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: this is how /tmp folders work
[05:34] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: what is the situation you are trying to solve ?
[05:34] <mehdi>   
[05:34] <Shadowpillar> mehdi: english only
[05:34] <coucho> acebo: what about php, mysql and such
[05:34] <RunsWithScissors> Samus_Aran: I want to prevent the socket file in MySql from being deleted
[05:34] <mehdi> 
[05:34] <Samus_Aran> RunsWithScissors: deleted by who ?
[05:34] <mehdi> ok
[05:35] <mehdi> help me please
[05:35] <acebo> coucho: I would think that unless you run into a versioning problem with php or something, all should be good, as long as you have /var/www backed up somewhere
[05:35] <Shadowpillar> RunsWithScissors:  what's the socket file for mysql doing in /var/www ?
[05:35] <coucho> acebo: ok thanks
[05:35] <RunsWithScissors> Samus_Aran: I've read the socket file is publically accesible so client programs can use it
[05:35] <coucho> wish me luck :P
[05:35] <dek_aik> phunkalicious: i had similar problem, but its a via sound driver motherboard...u need the quirk options...try google you find it
[05:35] <acebo> coucho: good luck :)
[05:35] <coucho> heheh
[05:35] <phunkalicious> hmm...
[05:36] <Shadowpillar> RunsWithScissors: ....
[05:36] <Shadowpillar> well screw this
[05:36] <Shadowpillar> I'm out kids
[05:36] <dreamcatcher5172> when editing a configuration document and directions say "comment out" does that mean delete or something else
[05:36] <phunkalicious> quirk options for gnome or what?
[05:36] <spades> dreamcatcher5172 add a # to the beginning of the line
[05:36] <clarknova> can someone tell me what the command sequence for upgrading ubuntu 5.x to 6 is? i know it's very simple, but i can't seem to find it.
[05:37] <dreamcatcher5172> oh ok so to add a # to the beginning of a line is to disable that setting?
[05:37] <Warbo> !upgrade
[05:37] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:37] <spades> dreamcatcher5172 depending on what youre editing, a comment makes the line not be read by the script or whatever
[05:37] <dreamcatcher5172> ah ok thanks i appreciate the help
[05:37] <spades> dreamcatcher5172 what are you editing?
[05:37] <clarknova> thanks Warbo & bot :)
[05:37] <dreamcatcher5172> inittab to delete some virtual terminals
[05:37] <IcemanV9> Heretician: it looked fine. something is not right.
[05:37] <mehdi> how to write on a NTFS drive
[05:37] <dreamcatcher5172> or virtual consoles
[05:37] <Heretician> Well
[05:37] <Heretician> Ubuntu is my only OS on that PC
[05:37] <dreamcatcher5172> little tweak
[05:37] <Heretician> would that change anything
[05:38] <tanlaan> where can i download the codec for mplayer to play realmedia?
[05:38] <chiflado> mehdi: look into captive-ntfs
[05:38] <spades> dreamcatcher5172 yea, adding a # to the beginning will have it skip it
[05:38] <IcemanV9> no, Heretician  ... let me backtrack
[05:38] <Heretician> no internet drivers that are not preinstalled?
[05:38] <dek_aik> phunkalicious: in file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[05:38] <Onmitsu> ah guys i need your help, in the registered area of www.mldesigners.com there's a working gmail exploit, i dont know what to do? should i email gmail with the link and my username and password? or what? is there an email address? ahh, what should i do?
[05:38] <IcemanV9> Heretician: ifconfig shows you two devices - eth0 and lo, correct?
[05:39] <RunsWithScissors> Samus_Aran: Do you know if MySql5 places the socket file in the tmp directory (I'm going to upgrade)
[05:39] <Heretician> correct
[05:39] <IcemanV9> Heretician: net drivers are installed by default unless there are special ones
[05:39] <Heretician> dont think its too special
[05:40] <Onmitsu> gues?
[05:40] <Onmitsu> guys*
[05:40] <Onmitsu> what should i do?
[05:40] <Onmitsu> ah guys i need your help, in the registered area of www.mldesigners.com there's a working gmail exploit, i dont know what to do? should i email gmail with the link and my username and password? or what? is there an email address? ahh, what should i do?
[05:40] <mehdi> chiflado:	i dont know how tell me more
[05:40] <dreamcatcher5172> ok its done..thanks for the help...are there some good ubuntu speed tweak guides out there you guys can tell me about?
[05:40] <spades> Onmitsu screenshot and edit out whatever pertitent info you dont want seen and find an abuse addy for gmail and send it ?
[05:40] <Heretician> Onmitsu: Nothing???
[05:40] <dreamcatcher5172> im a power monger
[05:40] <IcemanV9> Heretician: ok. sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 does NOT do the trick (it should!)
[05:40] <xarq> dreamcatcher5172: yeah, switch to a lightweight WM like fluxbox
[05:40] <ben__> Heretician, your ethernet card is configured correctly, you have a problem with your ip
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> testing out XFCE4 right now. :)
[05:41] <xarq> dreamcatcher5172: or ratpoison or wmii or ion3
[05:41] <Heretician> Or my IP has a problem with linux heh
[05:41] <dreamcatcher5172> i like the look of gnome though...and its not too needy for system resources
[05:41] <ben__> have you tried setting it to dhcp
[05:41] <Heretician> because its working fine with the same directly connected cable box onto this computer
[05:41] <Heretician> yes
[05:41] <xarq> Heretician: your internet protocol?  0_o
[05:41] <Heretician> it was default at dhcp
[05:41] <dreamcatcher5172> I freakin love gnome
[05:41] <Heretician> sure why not lol
[05:41] <ttyfscker> dreamcatcher5172, get xubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <Heretician> xarq, its the same as it is on this pc, and i'm online
[05:41] <Bicchi> Breezy used to take 3.2 GB of space and when i upgrade to dapper 3.7 GB even after clearing apt cache with: (clean and autoclean.) Does that seem logical?
[05:42] <ttyfscker> xfce is faster than gnome.. and it looks better i think
[05:42] <RunsWithScissors> Ubutu server has the best inteface...
[05:42] <ben__> if you open a terminal and type 'sudo ifconfig' does eth0 show up
[05:42] <Heretician> If I cant find help for this ill just try and blame gnome and get KDE or something :P
[05:42] <phunkalicious> dek_aik, do i gotta reboot for this to work?
[05:42] <Kirk_> What is the name of the system installation utility?  The equivilant of sysinstall in FreeBSD... I want to edit the network domain name.  Where do I do that?
[05:42] <Heretician> it sure does ben
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> i still go ta few issues with xfce4 however.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> but its improveing.
[05:42] <phunkalicious> i put this in alsa-base: options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=swap_hp
[05:42] <stpere> Heretician: verify your gateway
[05:42] <wastrel> Heretician:  ifconfig doesn't require sudo
[05:42] <tanlaan> where can i download the codec for mplayer to play realmedia?
[05:42] <ben__> did you have to install any software on your windows machine to be able to connect to the internet
[05:42] <wastrel> er, ben__
[05:42] <Shadowpillar> anyway
[05:42] <ben__> like road runner stuff
[05:42] <Heretician> i never used sudo when i did ifconfig hehe
[05:42] <ttyfscker> i havent had any with it Dr_Willis
[05:42] <Heretician> just drivers
[05:42] <ben__> that doesnt matter
[05:42] <dek_aik> phunkalicious: no just reinsert the modules...modprobe -a i guess
[05:43] <Heretician> and sometimes i wouldnt need those
[05:43] <Heretician> stpere: how do i do that
[05:43] <ben__> what isp do you use
[05:43] <Heretician> Adelphia
[05:43] <stpere> Heretician: type "route"
[05:43] <Heretician> owned by comcast i think
[05:43] <ben__> ok
[05:43] <dreamcatcher5172> xfce still looks a bit basic for me though
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> ttyfscker,  just little oddities in how it does some things.
[05:43] <ben__> try pinging www.yahoo.com
[05:43] <ttyfscker> did you install 4.4 b2?
[05:43] <mehdi> some one tell me how to write on ntfs from gnome
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> its very functional. but  im just used to other file managers and so forth i ugess.. and i am missing a few features from gnome/kde. :)
[05:44] <Kirk_> Where do I change the overall server domain?
[05:44] <acebo> I prefer pinging www.google.com.. it provides better.. er.. pingage.
[05:44] <Kirk_> What file?
[05:44] <mehdi> no
[05:44] <nosklo> !tell tanlaan about codecs
[05:44] <Heretician> Okies, list of things to do: route / ping www.yahoo.com
[05:44] <Heretician> ill be back
[05:44] <ben__> ok
[05:44] <ben__> wait
[05:44] <Heretician> ?
[05:45] <ben__> and check how your interface is configured on the windows pc whether its dhcp or static
[05:45] <dek_aik> phunkalicious: your problem is similar to this  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/38546 but its for via-82xx
[05:45] <Heretician> Address type: Assigned by DHCP
[05:45] <ttyfscker> Dr_Willis, i usually dont use file managers in the gui.. i find it easier to just switch to a virtual terminal and do what i have to do, instead of loading up a GUI that takes forever to click here and click there.
[05:45] <wastrel> dhcp
[05:45] <SonicDH> heya
[05:45] <SonicDH> anybody alive in here?
[05:45] <ttyfscker> but i like Rox-filer if i am going to do it that way.. it is pretty quick for a graphical file manager
[05:45] <Heretician> tons, Sonic
[05:46] <Heretician> ben__, it is DHCP :)
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> ttyfscker,  so you dont use one of the main tools of the Desktop enviroment. :P lol.
[05:46] <phunkalicious> dek_aik, can i pm you something :/
[05:46] <Dial_tone> well, crappers. soundjuicer doesn't grab id3 tag info when you rip. is there something else that does?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> im old-skool and tekd to use mc in a terminal
[05:46] <SonicDH> i guess so
[05:46] <ttyfscker> Dr_Willis,  i dont use the desktop environment for much except for GUI apps to be placed on
[05:46] <ttyfscker> lol
[05:46] <SonicDH> i actuallly like command prompt
[05:47] <SonicDH> *kevlar
[05:47] <DBO> ok ladies and gentlemen
[05:47] <DBO> DBO is out
[05:47] <ben__> ok
[05:47] <Heretician> brb then ben
[05:47] <dek_aik> phunkalicious: ok..this is the 2nd time i use irc..i hope i know what om is..lol
[05:47] <beavis> does anyone have a copy of the x64 azureus , their new website doesnt have it for download
[05:47] <dek_aik> phunkalicious: ok..this is the 2nd time i use irc..i hope i know what pm is..lol
[05:47] <ben__> were you able to ping any sites
[05:47] <SonicDH> Phew, i thought yall were hostile linux users like the last group i ran into...
[05:48] <SonicDH> so how goes it?
[05:48] <acebo> Oops.
[05:48] <Madpilot> SonicDH, people who act hostile here have hostile things done to them ;)
[05:48] <SonicDH> X_X
[05:48] <acebo> Delayed response, Sonic.. sorru
[05:48] <acebo> sorry, even
[05:48] <Kirk_> When I login to root using sudo, I get this error. (sudo: unable to lookup server via gethostbyname()
[05:48] <Kirk_> ).  What is the problem?sudo: unable to lookup server via gethostbyname()
[05:49] <Kirk_> Sorry, lol.  I meant to ask, what is the problem.  I get this error when logging into sudo.  "When I login to root using sudo, I get this error. (sudo: unable to lookup server via gethostbyname()
[05:49] <Kirk_> ).  What is the problem?sudo: unable to lookup server via gethostbyname()
[05:49] <Kirk_> ".
[05:49] <Sonic[Sleep] > ugh, too late to ask question
[05:49] <Sonic[Sleep] > i'll be back...
[05:49] <xarq> Sonic[Sleep] : did you have a question, or just looking fer trubbel?
[05:49] <wastrel> Kirk_:  you need to reboot into recovery mode and fix your /etc/hosts   and/or  your  /etc/hostname  :] 
[05:49] <Sonic[Sleep] > question
[05:49] <wastrel> Kirk_:  they need to match
[05:50] <Pup> hi, i have a problem.  when i launch the "software updates" program, it says, "software index is broken; run synaptic or sudo apt-get install -f to fix this issue.  When I run sudo apt-get install -f, it says: samba will be installed.  samba will be upgraded.  i tell it to continue, and it says, "dangling symlink: /etc/rc2.d/K09samba", error processing samba_3.0....deb, errors were encountered, etc.
[05:50] <Kirk_> wastrel: My hostname is currently server... should I make it "s1.alphahertz.com"?
[05:50] <Kirk_> Since that is my domain name?
[05:50] <olrrai> see u
[05:50] <spades> Kirk_ if you got the dns and possibly ptr on it, it wont hurt to
[05:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Pup, hmm.  Try sudo apt-get remove samba     then    sudo apt-get install -f
[05:50] <Kirk_> spades: I never setup any DNS stuff.
[05:51] <Kirk_> Should 127.0.0.1 still be localhost?  Or should it be s1.alphahertz.com?
[05:51] <spades> Kirk_ if you're serving mail from it, you would need a ptr for it to get to most mailservers, especially aol
[05:51] <Sonic[Sleep] > how easy is it to install ubbuntu on a drive with an exsisting window spatition
[05:51] <spades> Kirk_ is this local only? if so, dont bother
[05:51] <Sonic[Sleep] > *windows partition
[05:51] <nosklo> Sonic[Sleep] , very easy
[05:51] <ben__> very easy
[05:51] <Kirk_> spades: It's an internet server, and I want email.  How do I do whatever it is you said I need to do?
[05:52] <Sonic[Sleep] > safe? because i have alot of mp3s and will kill myself ifi i loes them
[05:52] <dek_aik> phunkalicious: i am not registered...i can't send messages
[05:52] <sidusahib> does anyone know a program for windows so that i can view ubuntu partition?
[05:52] <spades> Kirk_ if youre serving outgoing mail from it, contact your isp regarding ptr, not sure if most isps allow it tho, doesnt hurt to ask
[05:52] <ben__> yes, if you know what youre doin
[05:52] <phunkalicious> oh ok, let me pastebin it then dek_aik
[05:52] <Sonic[Sleep] > can ubuntu read/write to ntfs?
[05:52] <ben__> read
[05:52] <wastrel> if you have a static IP they should put in a ptr, aka a reverse
[05:53] <nosklo> Sonic[Sleep] , you may loose your data using the installer, if you choose the wrong options
[05:53] <Sonic[Sleep] > no write huh...
[05:53] <Kirk_> spades: My ISP allows any server activities as long as they are not illegal.  Believe me, my ISP is a four-person company.  :P  It's not Comcast or anything.  I doubt they know what that is, much less disallow it.
[05:53] <phunkalicious> dek_aik, http://pastebin.ca/88574
[05:53] <Smeggy> which package gets me gstreamer mp3 support and nothing more?
[05:53] <tanlaan> need help installing real player, using a ppc version of ubuntu
[05:53] <wastrel> i'd be worried if your isp doesn't know what a ptr record is :] 
[05:53] <sidusahib> how do i view ubuntu partition in windows xp?
[05:53] <ben__> i dont think that linux in general has safe writing to ntfs
[05:53] <Sonic[Sleep] > xandrox or something can...
[05:53] <ben__> you need to install ext2fs driver
[05:53] <mehdi> some one tell me how to write on ntfs from gnome
[05:53] <mehdi> some one tell me how to write on ntfs from gnome
[05:53] <mehdi> some one tell me how to write on ntfs from gnome
[05:53] <Kirk_> spades again: At any rate, it's not even my server I'm configuring, it's my neighbors. :P
[05:53] <mehdi> some one tell me how to write on ntfs from gnome
[05:53] <mehdi> some one tell me how to write on ntfs from gnome
[05:53] <phunkalicious> just because it can doesn't mean it is safe :/
[05:53] <Kirk_> mehdi... Be patient.
[05:54] <Flegm> There is a driver called the Captive NTFS driver.  I've tried it and it works great, even supports reading compressed files, but it's hard to come by.
[05:54] <Kirk_> !patience
[05:54] <Kirk_> lol
[05:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:54] <Flegm> Let me try to find a link.
[05:54] <sidusahib> mehdi, good way to get kicked...
[05:54] <Flegm> Mehdi, asking the same question five times is not any better than asking once.
[05:54] <Flegm> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[05:54] <Flegm> That works for me on my Debian.
[05:55] <mehdi> i have asked several times befor but noone pay attention
[05:55] <babo> I'm sending some emails to a yahoo account and including \r\n in the text, but they don't show up as newlines .. ? help ..
[05:55] <Flegm> If you spam, people will just block you.
[05:55] <Madpilot> mehdi, guess what? After that little outburst, people are going to keep ignoring you.
[05:55] <Flegm> Ask once every, say, five minutes until you get an answer.
[05:55] <spades> Kirk_ you need to get dns running on the machine and set a hostname with a static ip, contact the isp to set a ptr record for the hostname
[05:55] <dek_aik> phunkalicious: where do you get the hp_only option? ...don't forget to sudo update-modules..if not the changes will be forgotten
[05:55] <Kirk_> spades: Well, do you know how I can set whatever that is up?  Also note, I have a control panel setup that isn't working properly, I think because of the domain misconfugiration.
[05:55] <b00gz1> Hey guys I am using Bind9 for DNS I can use my local IP and get responses back just fine but if I go outside of the network and do nslookup IP it connects but when I ask about a domain it gives me DNS request timed out can someone please help!
[05:55] <kelbizzle> I need help again.
[05:56] <babo> I'm sending some emails to a yahoo account and including \r\n in the text, but they don't show up as newlines .. ? help ..
[05:56] <Kirk_> spades: Is it impossible without that?
[05:56] <Sonic[Sleep] > Whats the Min. Reqs. for Ubuntu?
[05:56] <wldkos> has anyone had any luck installing a linksys wireless 54g card here?
[05:56] <mehdi> ok
[05:56] <phunkalicious> dek_aik, i got the hp_only option from the launchpad page you posted and from here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=679010&postcount=5
[05:56] <mehdi> i'm sorry
[05:56] <spades> Kirk_ if youre able to get pms, check them
[05:56] <phunkalicious> dek_aik, but I don't know which one I am supposed to pick for sure though :/
[05:56] <Flegm> I am pretty sure that Ubuntu will work on anything remotely modern, because most Linux does.
[05:56] <Kirk_> spades: done
[05:56] <jiSh> how come i can't login to my own router from ubuntu
[05:57] <Sonic[Sleep] > p3 733, 128mb ram?
[05:57] <wldkos> can anyone help with wireless cards here?
[05:57] <Sonic[Sleep] > 733 mhz...
[05:57] <tanlaan> is it possible to install realplayer onto a ppc using ubuntu?
[05:57] <ben__> wldkos, have you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[05:57] <Flegm> Although if it's a weird processor, like your favorite mp3 player, you might have to compile it yourself.
[05:57] <Kirk_> spades: Don't you see my responses in PM?
[05:57] <spades> Kirk_ I dont
[05:57] <Kirk_> spades: Why do you keep putting an underscore after my nick?
[05:57] <Kirk_> spades: I don't have one on my end...
[05:58] <jiSh> Kirk_: you do
[05:58] <spades> well you do in my window
[05:58] <Flegm> Don't ELF binaries run on any processor if it's running the Linux kernel?
[05:58] <babo> anyone know why my newlines aren't showing up ?
[05:58] <babo> I'm sending some emails to a yahoo account and including \r\n in the text, but they don't show up as newlines .. ? help ..
[05:58] <Kirk_> spades: IMs?
[05:58] <wldkos> ben_ hey
[05:58] <Kirk_> spades: I have AIM, MSN, and YIM... Also Google Talk.
[05:58] <spades> Kirk_ irc private messages
[05:58] <interfear> can't i just install compiz with synpatic?
[05:58] <[Ex0r] > Kirk_- you must be registered on freenode to private message people
[05:58] <Kirk_> ex0r: Ah
[05:58] <spades> Kirk_ get me on iam3spades on aim
[05:59] <ben__> wldkos, did you find what you were looking for?
[05:59] <Kirk_> Done
[05:59] <interfear> anyone here use compiz?
[05:59] <wldkos> I found this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=f09d6693b71ff0718e44d92da7296084&p=113584&postcount=7
[05:59] <wldkos> would you mind telling me if that's pretty much the only way it's going to work?
[05:59] <IcemanV9> babo: maybe yahoo acct does not understand \r\n
[06:00] <jiSh> how come i can't login to my own router from ubuntu. i put in login/password and it just asks again and again and wont let me connect
[06:00] <jiSh> even tried it in windows xp installed in vmware
[06:00] <ben__> wldkos, do 'sudo apt-get install ndisgtk'
[06:00] <b00gz1> Hey guys I am using Bind9 for DNS I can use my local IP and get responses back just fine but if I go outside of the network and do nslookup IP it connects but when I ask about a domain it gives me DNS request timed out can someone please help!
[06:00] <phunkalicious> maybe it doesn't like firefox :|
[06:00] <Flegm> I looked at the wikipedia page for Compiz.  No offense, but people who need that much eye candy tend to avoid Linux.
[06:00] <babo> IcemanV9: well it has newlines in it ... I can send a mail with newlines and it'll show up. So what must my computer be using as newlines then ? ... I've tried everything I can think of ...
[06:00] <jiSh> i used opera and IE in winx
[06:00] <dli_> jiSh, can you try konqueror ?
[06:00] <jiSh> p
[06:00] <david__> is it possible to have web cam chat on ubuntu? i havent found the right program for it?
[06:01] <ben__> you will basically do what the guide says but using a gui
[06:01] <jiSh> dont have konq
[06:01] <jiSh> on gnome here
[06:01] <david__> konq chat?
[06:01] <ben__> wldkos, what model card is it?
[06:01] <wldkos> ben_ that helped a lot
[06:01] <Flegm> If you can find a webcam with a Linux driver, than you should be fine.
[06:01] <wldkos> thanks
[06:01] <wldkos> wrt54gs
[06:01] <Flegm> Trouble is, hardware manufacturers love to use nonstandard interfaces and not write drivers for anything except the latest Windoze.
[06:02] <dli_> david__,  kopete has webcam support
[06:02] <Eduardo25> people speak spanish ?
[06:02] <Eduardo25> hello
[06:02] <xarq> !es
[06:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:02] <dek_aik> phunkalicious: u can read this http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-07/1147.html also..at the bottom of the page it said that the quirk option can be found at alsa configuration.txt in the kernel source
[06:02] <IcemanV9> babo: i don't know .. maybe options in Yahoo account might disallow it?
[06:02] <Eduardo25> thanks
[06:02] <david__> owe great i will get that... not sure if my cam is set up for linux thouygh, should be
[06:02] <phunkalicious> thank you dek_aik, I will study it now
[06:03] <david__> does kopote work with aim users?
[06:03] <xarq> yes
[06:03] <david__> thanks
[06:03] <wheels3572> What permission do I need to mount a create a directory?
[06:03] <wheels3572> sorry let me rephrase that
[06:04] <wheels3572> I am trying to create a directory so I can mount a partition
[06:04] <haary> I have here a Labtec webcam for 11 Euro, works fine in Linux with the spca5xx driver
[06:05] <IcemanV9> wheels3572: sudo mkdir <new dir>
[06:05] <wheels3572> Iceman I have to goto this directory /media
[06:05] <dek_aik> phunkalicious: in ubuntu/kubuntu it is here /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz
[06:05] <wldkos> is there a program that let's you browse available wireless networks?
[06:05] <dli_> wldkos, iwlist eth0 scan
[06:06] <wheels3572> cd to the directory then do that?
[06:06] <dm_> Hey guys, i installed my Nvidia Propetary drivers and some how Ubuntu doesnt see my wireless card anymore, can anyone helop ?
[06:06] <wldkos> dli_ a gui version?
[06:06] <pippeus> hi
[06:06] <dli_> dm_, what's your card chipset? lspci?
[06:06] <pippeus> anyone?
[06:06] <IcemanV9> wheels3572: no. just sudo mkdir media/<new dir>
[06:06] <wheels3572> ok
[06:06] <pippeus> i would like to get some infos about initng-usplash
[06:07] <Heretician> Get an error when trying to ping www.yahoo.com (instantly)
[06:07] <dm_> dli_ 3945
[06:07] <Heretician> and when i type in route nothing shows up but what i think are categories
[06:07] <chiflado> Heretician: which error?
[06:07] <xarq> wldkos: network-manager
[06:07] <chiflado> destination host unreachable?
[06:07] <pippeus> anyone tried?
[06:07] <dli_> dm_, can you : sudo modprobe ipw3945 ?
[06:07] <IcemanV9> wheels3572: to check if it exists - ls /media
[06:07] <pippeus> i`ll wait
[06:07] <pippeus> :)
[06:07] <dli_> dm_, and dmesg|tail
[06:07] <Heretician> think so chif, its the normal old "your not connected to the internet" kind of error
[06:07] <wldkos> xarq: simple as that?
[06:07] <wldkos> does it resemble anything like the windows version of it?
[06:07] <chiflado> Heretician: there are serveral such errors
[06:08] <dm_> dli_ modprobe came up with nothing, and dmesg didnt come up with any wireless
[06:08] <Heretician> destination host unreachable is probably it :P
[06:08] <xarq> wldkos: there is a windows version of network manager?
[06:08] <chiflado> each one is designed to tell you something specific about why something didn't work
[06:08] <Heretician> it instantly comes up
[06:08] <wastrel> Heretician:  route should show your default gateway and your local network address
[06:08] <wldkos> xarq: funny
[06:08] <Heretician> route shows Destination / Gateway / and stuff in one line
[06:08] <Heretician> but nothing under it
[06:08] <Tmob> anyone here know how to turn off acpi notificatins when the laptop lid opens?
[06:08] <Tmob> i dont want my laptop to restart when i open the lid
[06:08] <xarq> wldkos: I was being serious
[06:09] <acebo> Tmob: do you see the battery icon in Gnome?
[06:09] <wheels3572> Iceman:  Complete Newbie here how do I find out what my 2nd hard drive is under Linux so I mount the right partition?
[06:09] <wldkos> xarq: I wanted to know if there is a gui that shows you a list of them
[06:09] <wastrel> Heretician:  did you try to take the interface down and bring it up again?
[06:09] <dli_> dm_,  rmmod ipw3945 ; modprobe ipw3945; dmesg
[06:09] <wastrel> Heretician:  is it wifi or ethernet?
[06:09] <xarq> wldkos: network-manager has a GUI
[06:09] <Heretician> ethernet
[06:09] <Heretician> and no but i did try it several times
[06:09] <Tmob> acebo, i use xfce
[06:09] <dli_> dm_, of course, add sudo, ubuntu sucks with that :(
[06:09] <IcemanV9> wheels3572: sudo fdisk -l
[06:09] <Tmob> acebo, xubuntu
[06:09] <Heretician> i mean
[06:09] <Heretician> it ended
[06:09] <xarq> wldkos: it is a GUI app
[06:09] <Heretician> it showed the command line bar thing
[06:09] <wldkos> in the terminal, how would I connect to a network?
[06:09] <Heretician> you know where i type more commands after it
[06:09] <Heretician> that thinger
[06:09] <wastrel> Heretician:  sudo ifdown eth0  then  sudo ifup eth0
[06:09] <acebo> Tmob: Hrm, I won't be of much help then. Shutting up :P
[06:09] <Heretician> yeah
[06:10] <Heretician> that doesnt help
[06:10] <olrrai_1> I use: mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/d # but it mount as rro for users, how to give the rw access?
[06:10] <dm_> dli_ fatal errors
[06:10] <Heretician> others have suggested that :P
[06:10] <Heretician> no errors doing that
[06:10] <b00gz1> Hey guys I am using Bind9 for DNS I can use my local IP and get responses back just fine but if I go outside of the network and do nslookup IP it connects but when I ask about a domain it gives me DNS request timed out can someone please help!
[06:10] <wheels3572> Iceman:  Thanks
[06:10] <Tmob> problem is sometimes when i close the lid (which is hooked to sleep.sh) i get multiple events.. so next time i power-on the laptop does into sleep immediately again
[06:10] <acebo> Tmob: There is a #Xubuntu, though, if noone here can help
[06:10] <wastrel> Heretician:  try   sudo route -add default gw <ip of your gateway>
[06:10] <Heretician> just the DHCPDISCOVER from eth0 to 255.255.255.255 ( off the top of my head)
[06:10] <ben__> wldkos, type ndisgtk
[06:10] <dm_> dli_ lemme paste bin it
[06:10] <IcemanV9> wheels3572: yw 
[06:10] <wldkos> thanks
[06:10] <RaCarter> is there a way to add more radio stations to rhythmbox?
[06:10] <Tmob> acebo, yea.. its mostly a kernel prob i guess
[06:10] <wastrel> Heretician:  er,  sudo route add default gw <ip...>      add, not -add
[06:11] <Heretician> would the default gateway be the same on here as on the other pc?
[06:11] <Heretician> same cable
[06:11] <Heretician> same cord :)
[06:11] <dli_> b00gz1, add an outside nameserver to your resolv.conf
[06:11] <Heretician> "sudo route add default gw 69.162.124.1
[06:11] <Heretician> "
[06:11] <dm_> dli_ http://pastebin.ca/88586
[06:11] <b00gz1> dli_ where is resolv.conf located?
[06:11] <hyperstream> DBO, well all along its been working fine
[06:12] <dli_> b00gz1, /etc/
[06:12] <hyperstream> im just doing ubuntu updates and its flawless.
[06:12] <IcemanV9> Heretician: does this file, resolv.conf, exists in /etc ??
[06:12] <Tmob> anyone good with ACPI stuff? trying to solve event jitter problem here.. i'm getting multiple events sometimes (i think) when i close the laptop lid which cases sleep mode to be activated back to back..
[06:12] <hyperstream> DBO,  but when it comes to loading pages in mozilla over the wireless adapter it seems to time out and not fully download some files like images and half loading pages
[06:12] <Heretician> how do i get to /etc
[06:12] <Heretician> oh its just
[06:12] <hyperstream> irc and downloading is very very good
[06:12] <Heretician> ./ etc
[06:12] <Tmob> Heartsbane, cd /etc
[06:13] <technel> I wanted to uninstall sendmail so I did "sudo aptitude remove --purge sendmail", it completed, but when I restart now it gives an error about /etc/init.d/sendmail, how do I get this to go away?
[06:13] <IcemanV9> Heretician: ls /etc - it'll give you the list of files
[06:13] <DBO> hyperstream, try a different browser maybe
[06:13] <wastrel> Heretician:  that looks right.  that should set the routing table to get to the internet.
[06:13] <olrrai_1> I use: mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/d # but it mount as ro for users, how to give the rw access?
[06:13] <wastrel> Heretician:  your eth0 is being assigned the correct IP?
[06:13] <Tmob> technel, remove /etc/init.d/sendmail?
[06:13] <wastrel> Heretician:  and can you ping that ip?
[06:13] <Tmob> technel, look which script is starting sendmail..
[06:13] <technel> Tmob, Removed it already...how do I know which script is starting sendmail?
[06:13] <b00gz1> dli_ resolv.conf looks like dns forwarders ... I am actaully hosting the domains I just need it to respond when it is asked on the WAN address and not the LAN...
[06:14] <pippeus> ok i tried initng-usplash stuff from the help. It runs great and fast.. Get the same time boot of my normal 2ghz init boot on a 500 mhz. But i still get a gap betwn usplash kill and gdm start, initng lines and stuff unnice to see.. Any idea?
[06:14] <dli_> dm_, install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-686
[06:14] <hyperstream> DBO,  Awww :/
[06:14] <xarq> ollrai: add it to your fstab with r/w privs for users
[06:14] <wheels3572> Iceman:  I was told if I want to Automount on bootup to use Auto in /etc/fstab but my question is this.  Where in this line do I put Auto or do I even have to?
[06:14] <wheels3572> /dev/hda1       /media/partitionname  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       0
[06:14] <Tmob> technel, when do you get this error?
[06:14] <DBO> hyperstream, just for testing, sorry Im kinda distracted so Im not giving great advice
[06:14] <olrrai> xarq: ok
[06:14] <Heretician> wastrel, no
[06:14] <technel> Tmob, At the bootup before it loads the drivers
[06:14] <Heretician> its not detecting my ip
[06:14] <dli_> b00gz1, yes, it needs a nameserver for WAN
[06:15] <Heretician> iceman, i'll check for the resolve.conf
[06:15] <b00gz1> dli_ so I put my WAN address there?
[06:15] <jiSh> whats a terminal command to see which network your connected to
[06:15] <dli_> b00gz1, add 127.0.0.1 (for LAN) also
[06:15] <technel> Tmob, It shows the pretty Ubuntu loading screen and then it exits it and goes to the standard "Blah... [ok] " screen with the error telling me to run some type of "/etc/init.d/sendmail" command
[06:15] <Heretician> wastrel, could this gateway thing be the problem?
[06:15] <dm_> dli_ i thought i did that
[06:15] <dm_> dli_ wait 686?
[06:15] <Tmob> technel, find /etc/rc* -name *send*
[06:15] <Heretician> I mean, people who dont have the LAN and things after the route command definitely dont have an active connection to the internet :P
[06:15] <Tmob> technel, tell me what it says
[06:15] <dli_> dm_, whatever suitable for you
[06:15] <Tmob> technel, pm
[06:16] <dli_> dm_, uname -a
[06:16] <hyperstream> DBO,  no its ok , thanks alot for all your help :) its much appriceated WHERE WOULD #ubuntu  be with out you :P
[06:16] <hyperstream> !win32codec
[06:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:16] <pippeus> hallo?
[06:16] <hyperstream> !win32codecs
[06:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:16] <pippeus> :D
[06:16] <hyperstream> eeek.
[06:16] <dli_> b00gz1, just make sure you understand how it works
[06:16] <hyperstream> !movies
[06:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about movies - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:16] <b00gz1> dli_ Same problem
[06:16] <xarq> !codecs
[06:16] <acebo> !libdvdcss2
[06:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:16] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:16] <wastrel> Heretician:  for some reason your routing table isn't getting set up ... if the route add command works, then that's the problem.
[06:16] <hyperstream> anyone know the link to all the codecs and gstreamer etc to get videos working
[06:16] <dli_> b00gz1, how it fails? elaborate
[06:16] <noiesmo> Hello all I have upgraded from hoary to dapper and have a lvm2 problem from what I can see on net I need to edit a preinst file within the debian package whats the easiest way to do this
[06:16] <xarq> hyperstream: look up
[06:17] <Heretician> alrighty, well ill be back wastrel
[06:17] <hyperstream> thanks
[06:17] <dm_> dli_ sudo  apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-386
[06:17] <dm_>  could not find packack
[06:17] <IcemanV9> wheels3572: i am not familiar with fstab since i don't mount other partition automatically.
[06:17] <dm_> package
[06:17] <jbxyo> How I make apache on world wide web
[06:17] <b00gz1> dli_ I don't want it to respond if it is asked about google.com I only want it to respond if it is asked about local websites that are there.  Which is does respond if I ask it on the LAN interface but if I ask it form the WAN I get DNS Request Timed Out.
[06:17] <wheels3572> ok
[06:17] <IcemanV9> wheels3572:  let me find the link ...
[06:17] <wheels3572> Iceman:  Ok thanks
[06:17] <xarq> jbxyo: install it with synaptic and read the manual
[06:17] <wheels3572> Iceman:   Ok thanks again
[06:17] <xarq> jbxyo: or apt-get
[06:17] <IcemanV9> !fstab > wheels3572
[06:17] <jbxyo> i got apache
[06:17] <dli_> b00gz1, sorry, english is not my language :(
[06:18] <jbxyo> i want to make my repertory online
[06:18] <IcemanV9> wheels3572: look at the private message from ubotu on fstab
[06:18] <pippeus> dli_: learn it
[06:18] <xarq> jbxyo: get a public IP address
[06:18] <wheels3572> Iceman:  Thanks alot :)
[06:18] <jbxyo> ...
[06:18] <dli_> pippeus, this is ubuntu :(
[06:18] <IcemanV9> wheels3572: good luck 
[06:19] <jbxyo> i want to make my apache server online (from my pc) <<
[06:19] <Samus_Aran> darn net be b0rked out tonight
[06:19] <b00gz1> Can someone please help me with a really simple Bind issue.   I am using Bind9 and I am hosting ibxsecurity.com ... If I ask 192.168.10.12 (Local Private IP) about ibxsecurity.com it will respond with my WAN IP (Which it should do) now if I ask my Wan IP about ibxsecurity.com it gives me DNS requested timed out.  I do have the ports forwarded and it does not fail until I ask about the domain.  PLEASE HELP!
[06:19] <hyperstream> !java
[06:19] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:20] <Samus_Aran> night
[06:20] <pippeus> kklja....ok klsflskdfjalsdkfjalsdkjflkasdjfoooaman
[06:21] <Ignite__> yay
[06:21] <dm_> dli_ -22 is not available, i have as late as 23
[06:21] <dli_> dm_, now, you understand the problem
[06:21] <xarq> jbxyo: use a felt-tip marker, and a ruler, and
[06:21] <xarq>          carefully draw the line under the pedestal
[06:22] <dm_> dli_ why would this happen though? shouldnt ipw3945 be up to date since it is the most current chipset
[06:22] <jbxyo> ...
[06:22] <jbxyo> draw a smile
[06:22] <dli_> dm_, get the right packages
[06:22] <musicman> I've just used the http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4 to set up an ubuntu samba PDC, ceptin I used a brand new dapper install
[06:22] <jbxyo> e.m.o.t.i.c.o.n
[06:22] <Tmob> anyone good with ACPI stuff? trying to solve event jitter problem here.. i'm getting multiple events sometimes (i think) when i close the laptop lid which cases sleep mode to be activated back to back..
[06:22] <jbxyo> 8D
[06:22] <dm_> dli_ any suggestion on what packages i should add?
[06:23] <musicman> everything seems fine, except the workstations wont find the domain? My dhcp is on another (debian/firewall) machine
[06:23] <dli_> dm_,  linux-restricted-modules , linux-image , of the same kernel version (exactly)
[06:24] <musicman> but apart from that, I can't understand why they wont recognise it's existance? I can log into workstations (XP) and view the shares on teh samba server
[06:24] <noiesmo> it's all good i fixed it myself thanks for the help :)
[06:24] <musicman> but not login as a domain member?
[06:24] <dm_> dli_ so this will fix my wireless ? lols
[06:24] <dm_> dli_ i been away from linux too long.. been playing too much WoW
[06:25] <KidVulcan> could someone here tell me what file system i should format the partition to before installing?
[06:25] <KidVulcan> please
[06:25] <musicman> kidVulcan, you can take your pick, but ext3 is a fine choice
[06:25] <hyperstream> lol
[06:25] <xarq> KidVulcan: if you don't know which and have no reason otherwise, use ext3
[06:25] <hyperstream> dm_, i know how that is
[06:26] <Heretician> When i try routing: SI0ADDRT: .. ugh
[06:26] <hyperstream> took me a week to pick up on the basics:x
[06:26] <b00gz1> Can someone please help me with a really simple Bind issue.   I am using Bind9 and I am hosting ibxsecurity.com ... If I ask 192.168.10.12 (Local Private IP) about ibxsecurity.com it will respond with my WAN IP (Which it should do) now if I ask my Wan IP about ibxsecurity.com it gives me DNS requested timed out.  I do have the ports forwarded and it does not fail until I ask about the domain.  PLEASE HELP!
[06:26] <Heretician> Well I forgot what it said after SI0ADDRT:, but it was something to do with it not recognizing the default gw
[06:26] <KidVulcan> what would encourage someone to choose otherwise..?
[06:26] <dm_> AHH CRAP , i moved my grub selection for windows up on the list and now that i updated kernel images it got rid of the entry , did Apt back up the fiel ?
[06:27] <KidVulcan> *xarq:
[06:27] <xarq> KidVulcan: yes?
[06:27] <hyperstream> DBO, woah there it goes again its dropping like nuts. the updates have stalled over and over and im getting screen spam(from lagging) :P
 what would encourage someone to choose otherwise..?
[06:27] <sproingie> how do i get rid of a dead app's icon in the tray (notification area)?
[06:28] <sproingie> in windows they go away when i mouse over them.  no such luck here
[06:28] <dm_> Anyone paste their grub menu list ?
[06:28] <dm_> my Windows entry is gone
[06:28] <IcemanV9> sproingie: killall gnome-panel
[06:28] <xarq> KidVulcan: there would be too many things to consider without flooding #ubuntu, but there's plenty of material online
[06:28] <devhen> !grub > dm_
[06:28] <devhen> dm_: try the tips on reinstalling grub after windows erases it. maybe thatll work
[06:29] <xarq> KidVulcan: in the meantime feel free to use ext3, it is an excellent format
[06:29] <sproingie> oh nevermind there's actually a process behind it
[06:29] <Heretician> wastrel, do you know what SI0ADDRT is?
[06:29] <dli_> dm_, sudo update-grub
[06:29] <sproingie> PicasaMediaDetector.. and i just found that bash tab-completes processes for killall
[06:29] <sproingie> yet another freakin-neat thing about ubuntu
[06:29] <devhen> thanks dli_, that easier ;)
[06:29] <xarq> KidVulcan: or you could read a bit about the reasons to choose differently, it's your choice
[06:29] <sproingie> good lord, picasa2 for linux is horrendous
[06:30] <dm_> dli_ it didnt put Windows in there
[06:30] <xarq> sproingie: well what did you expect?
[06:30] <sproingie> xarq: it runs like a dream in windos
[06:30] <dli_> dm_, edit it manually, update-grub doesn't touch it
[06:30] <xarq> sproingie: oh, really?  but the GIMP has so many more features
[06:30] <Heretician> IcemanV9, resolve.conf is in /etc
[06:30] <Heretician> wastrel, i'm pretty sure it says SI0ADDRT: Network is unreachable
[06:31] <dm_> dli_ k thanks, i hate grub sometimes.
[06:31] <dm_> brb
[06:31] <sproingie> xarq: the gimp is a different app.  i want something that manages albums, with easy browsing, categorizing, photo print ordering, etc
[06:31] <wastrel> Heretician:  hi, ok i guess there's some other problem with your networking.
[06:31] <sproingie> xarq: digikam is about as good as it gets, but it has its own problems
[06:31] <IcemanV9> Heretician: ok. it SHOULD work. *sigh*
[06:31] <sproingie> not to mention that i still can't order from shutterfly with it
[06:31] <nmyoDuh> sproingie, Galllery2 will do that
[06:31] <wastrel> Heretician:  i'd check your dmesg for any errors related to bringing up eth0
[06:31] <dli_> sproingie, gphoto2, gqview
[06:32] <sproingie> nmyoDuh: do those do print ordering?
[06:32] <nmyoDuh> but it requires mysql, php and apache running
[06:32] <ben__> anyone know how to add a system try in gnome, i accidentally deleted mine
[06:32] <Heretician> How do I do that wastrel
[06:32] <sproingie> nmyoDuh: blech.  no thanks
[06:32] <nmyoDuh> sure
[06:32] <ben__> system tray
[06:32] <nmyoDuh> it will do the ordering stuff
[06:32] <nmyoDuh> =D
[06:32] <wastrel> Heretician:  dmesg | grep eth0  for a start
[06:32] <sproingie> well if it does print orders, i might tolerate it
[06:33] <sproingie> nmyoDuh: got a url for those apps?
[06:33] <wastrel> Heretician:  does your nic work if you boot from the livecd?
[06:33] <Heretician> nic?
[06:33] <benjk> hi, I am just trying out Ubuntu for the first time, installed from the minimal/server CD ... how do I install the kernel-sources matching my installed kernel?
[06:33] <nmyoDuh> sproingie, just a sec
[06:33] <wastrel> Heretician:  ethrenet card.  "Network Interface Card"
[06:33] <Heretician> oh
[06:33] <Heretician> ill give that a try too.
[06:34] <Heretician> anything to do after dmsg | grep eth0?
[06:34] <wastrel> Heretician:  write down any errors you see
[06:34] <b00gz1> Can someone please help me with a really simple Bind issue.   I am using Bind9 and I am hosting ibxsecurity.com ... If I ask 192.168.10.12 (Local Private IP) about ibxsecurity.com it will respond with my WAN IP (Which it should do) now if I ask my Wan IP about ibxsecurity.com it gives me DNS requested timed out.  I do have the ports forwarded and it does not fail until I ask about the domain.  PLEASE HELP!
[06:34] <Heretician> alrighty ill be back then.
[06:34] <sproingie> nmyoDuh: i was looking at f-spot, which had potential ... but also fails to do simple things like actually delete files when asked.
[06:34] <wastrel> uhy
[06:34] <phunkalicious> benjk, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:34] <phunkalicious> i think that should do it :|
[06:35] <benjk> ah, ok, thx
[06:35] <dm_> dli_ wireless still not working
[06:35] <dli_> dm_, check your packages, and kernel, " uname -a "
[06:35] <dm_> dli_ wait
[06:35] <nmyoDuh> sproingie, better is the one for kde...
[06:35] <phunkalicious> you should install build-essential too if you are going to be compiling stuff too :|
[06:35] <sproingie> nmyoDuh: digikam is chock full of features, but photo print ordering ain't one
[06:35] <benjk> I was guessing kernel-sources-...
[06:36] <sproingie> nmyoDuh: i guess i'll have to get used to manually uploading 'em
[06:36] <luisito> hello
[06:36] <dli_> benjk, the name is now linux-source
[06:36] <luisito> anyone here have a macbook?
[06:36] <xarq> !anyone
[06:36] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:36] <nmyoDuh> http://gallery.menalto.com/ sproingie
[06:37] <nmyoDuh> examples of what that can do...
[06:37] <filemover> hi whats the apt-get command to install aptitude is it sudo apt-get install aptitude
[06:37] <sproingie> nmyoDuh: if you've ordered prints before ... are flickr's prints any good?  yahoo has awesome prints, and i'm pretty sure they use shutterfly ... not sure if flickr is the same
[06:37] <nmyoDuh> sproingie, that depends on the resolution
[06:37] <kairu0> is it normal for Xorg to use 40% or more of system memory?
[06:38] <userundefine> kairu0, how much memory do you have ?
[06:38] <nmyoDuh> which is lower than what you would see if you uploaded yourself i would guess.
[06:38] <xarq> filemover: apt-get *is* aptitude last time I checked
[06:38] <sproingie> nmyoDuh: last time i used picasa i ordered from ritz.  wow, what a mistake, they do NO color balancing, and they don't even print full-bleed
[06:38] <filemover> ok
[06:38] <nmyoDuh> man
[06:38] <xarq> filemover: yes, that looks correct except that you should already have aptitude
[06:39] <filemover> how do i install aptitude then from the prompt
[06:39] <xarq> filemover: aptitude ~= apt-get
[06:39] <sproingie> i'm  probably veering way off topic here tho ... will check out gallery
[06:39] <userundefine> sudo aptitude *package*
[06:39] <filemover> okok
[06:39] <deimos_> use aptitude install instead of apt-get install. it should work
[06:39] <filemover> thanx
[06:39] <userundefine> *sudo aptitude install *package*
[06:39] <kairu0> userundefine, 512mb
[06:39] <filemover> ill try it
[06:39] <MikeyMike> can anyone tell me how to make mp3's repeat over and over in firefox
[06:40] <MikeyMike> im not sure which method im using to make them playin in firefox but they do but only once
[06:40] <nmyoDuh> sproingie, its in the apt repos
[06:40] <bluefoxicy> noooooooooooooo
[06:40] <bluefoxicy> I can't read /dev/mem?!
[06:40] <dm_> dli_ i wish linux had WPA2 support built in, its working now but its labeled eth3  : (
[06:40] <dm_> dli_ nm its not working... lol
[06:40] <bluefoxicy> even as root!?
[06:40] <b00gz1> Can someone please help me with a really simple Bind issue.   I am using Bind9 and I am hosting ibxsecurity.com ... If I ask 192.168.10.12 (Local Private IP) about ibxsecurity.com it will respond with my WAN IP (Which it should do) now if I ask my Wan IP about ibxsecurity.com it gives me DNS requested timed out.  I do have the ports forwarded and it does not fail until I ask about the domain.  PLEASE HELP!
[06:40] <userundefine> kairu0, doesn't seem normal.  XGL uses only 98MB of real memory here
[06:40] <bluefoxicy> oh holy shit
[06:40] <benjk> I tried aptitude, but it confused me
[06:40] <bluefoxicy> it can't be piped
[06:41] <dm_> dli_ ok now it is. awesome
[06:41] <dm_> dli_ thanks
[06:41] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~/programming/ssp$ sudo cat /dev/mem > stuff
[06:41] <bluefoxicy> cat: /dev/mem: Operation not permitted
[06:41] <benjk> it shows lots of stuff but I couldn't figure out how to select a package and then install it
[06:41] <nosklo> bluefoxicy, it is not this kind of device, you need to mmap it i think
[06:41] <bluefoxicy> what the hell.
[06:41] <bluefoxicy> nosklo:  no I can cat it
[06:41] <benjk> it would just give me more and more help or info on the package
[06:41] <bluefoxicy> but I can't pipe or redirect it.
[06:41] <bluefoxicy> if I cat it > something or | something it says operation not permitted
[06:42] <bluefoxicy> if I just cat it fucks my terminal hard.
[06:42] <fivre> does anyone know how to get firefox to close a window when closing the last tab?
[06:42] <bluefoxicy> this sucks I just lost a big document
[06:42] <bluefoxicy> hi fivre
[06:42] <sproingie> bluefoxicy: please watch your language
[06:42] <xarq> bluefoxicy: from which editor?
[06:42] <stephen> wzup people
[06:42] <bluefoxicy> xarq:  firefox.
[06:43] <xarq> bluefoxicy: well there's your problem
[06:43] <kairu0> userundefine, i think java is also being a hog but i cant find anything better to replace azureus
[06:43] <bluefoxicy> xarq:  This is not funny.
[06:43] <sproingie> and you don't want to cat /dev/mem ... that's a sure-fire way to create a runaway process
[06:43] <xarq> bluefoxicy: I'm being serious
[06:43] <paied> are there drivers for ati cards ati refuses to support (older ones) to enable opengl?
[06:43] <sproingie> paied: what model of ati card?
[06:43] <paied> buddy of mine has a laptop with a 7200.
[06:43] <bluefoxicy> sproingie: I want to cat /dev/mem|grep -Hnr -n10 "License" > somefile.txt
[06:43] <wheels3572> what's the command to Save and write to VIM?
[06:44] <kairu0> wheels3572, :w
[06:44] <dark^ngel> wheels3572,either ZZ or :wq
[06:44] <xarq> wheels3572: <esc> :w <ret>
[06:44] <hyperstream> hmm
[06:44] <notamisfit> paied: try the in-kernel radeon driver
[06:44] <sproingie> bluefoxicy: that probably just isn't going to work.  cat is going to try to copy /dev/mem into a buffer ... which will appear in /dev/mem itself
[06:44] <paied> `radeon` ?
[06:44] <wheels3572> dark^ngel thanks
[06:44] <bluefoxicy> sproingie:  yes but the buffer will only exist in one place, so it'll spit that out too.
[06:45] <paied> ah he says 7500
[06:45] <hyperstream> anyone here use xsane for there scanner?, i can only run xsane as root other wise i get a I/O error
[06:45] <bluefoxicy> sproingie:  the stuff is volatile, it's not a constant stream of information.  It's like reading a constantly changing file
[06:45] <notamisfit> paied: modprobe radeon and switch the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to radeon
[06:45] <fivre> hey bluefox
[06:45] <wastrel> hyperstream:   what does the groups command give you ?   xsane runs fine for me but i'm in the scanner group.
[06:45] <bluefoxicy> agh
[06:45] <fivre> now how do I tell firefox to do what I want?
[06:45] <paied> alright notamisfit will give that  try. thx.
[06:45] <bluefoxicy> so much for being able to grep memory
[06:45] <hyperstream> im also in the scanner group
[06:45] <notamisfit> np.
[06:45] <bluefoxicy> fivre:  I dunno.
[06:45] <hyperstream> ill type it out brb
[06:46] <notamisfit> set up a laptop for a buddy with an older radeon, and that did the trick
[06:46] <xarq> bluefoxicy: the problem with trying to grep memory is grep will also start writing its stream into memory
[06:46] <sproingie> bluefoxicy: isn't /dev/mem an image of the entire virtual address space of the current process though?  meaning it's always 2 gigs?
[06:46] <xarq> bluefoxicy: as will the terminal
[06:46] <hyperstream> Failed to open device `brother2:bus2:dev2
[06:46] <bluefoxicy> xarq: think about it for a second.
[06:46] <wheels3572> Hmmmmmm something isn't working right I cant get out of insert mode and save it lol
[06:46] <bluefoxicy> xarq:  do you honestly think that matters?
[06:46] <bluefoxicy> sproingie:  that's kmem
[06:46] <sysrpl> hello
[06:46] <sproingie> bluefoxicy: i thought kmem was an image of the kernel's address space
[06:46] <dark^ngel> Is there any hope for GLX for AMD64 yet?
[06:47] <acebo> wheels3572: hitting ESC first?
[06:47] <sysrpl> how cna i add a trash bin icon to my gnome desktop?
[06:47] <wheels3572> nope
[06:47] <bluefoxicy> xarq: It will write its stream into a fixed position in memory, which it will run over top of, then run past.
[06:47] <hyperstream> Failed to open device `brother2:bus2:dev2': error during device I/O
[06:47] <hyperstream> if i run  sudo xsane it runs fine
[06:47] <hyperstream> scanner:x:110:cupsys,hyperstream
[06:47] <josesito> HELP!! please someone... i've got a corrupted folder which i can't erease...and it doesn't let me boot into xubuntu
[06:47] <notamisfit> dark^ngel : I've been using GLX w/ AMD64 about as long as i've been running linux
[06:47] <acebo> wheels3572: assuming you're in vi (I haven't been watching) hit ESC to exit edit mode and then :wq
[06:47] <josesito> please can someone help me??
[06:47] <paied> his laptop plays q3 decent in windows xp on that machine
[06:47] <xarq> bluefoxicy: which may be where your data was
[06:47] <paied> would be neat to do so in linux too.
[06:47] <bluefoxicy> xarq:  In other words, you're reading a file that's changing underneath you.  Pure and simple.  You get strange results but we're not trying to do anything that requires consistencey here.
[06:47] <hyperstream> wastrel, any idea's ?
[06:47] <bluefoxicy> xarq:  I HAVE recovered 10-15 paragraph documents this way before mind you.
[06:48] <sysrpl> jose: did you try sudo rm -rf foldername?
[06:48] <wheels3572> Acebo:  I am using VIM and it's telling me this E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override)
[06:48] <gmoore> hello. i'm installing Dapper Server. do "Install to the Hard Disk" and "Install a LAMP server" give me the same thing with the only exception being LAMP option gives me php5+apache2+mysql5?
[06:48] <bluefoxicy> xarq:  the kernel does not want to play with me this way anymore, it wants to flat deny root access to scan all of memory.
[06:48] <dark^ngel> Ah!
[06:48] <sysrpl> how can i add a trash bin icon to my gnome desktop?
[06:48] <acebo> wheels3572: what file are you editing? may be bad to overwrite
[06:48] <dark^ngel> wheels3572, save as another filename then sudo to move it
[06:48] <wastrel> hyperstream:  i'm guessing it has something to do with udev  - maybe not recognizing your scanner and setting appropriate permissions on the usb device that's created when your scanner is plugged in.
[06:48] <wheels3572> Acebo:  fstab file  I am automounting
[06:48] <bluefoxicy> damnit same for /proc/kcore
[06:48] <josesito> someone please??
[06:49] <wastrel> hyperstream:  i loaned my scanner to a friend so I can't play around with it right now...
[06:49] <sysrpl> jose: sudo rm -rf foldername?
[06:49] <hyperstream> wastrel,  that would sound right.
[06:49] <dark^ngel> You need to edit fstab with sudo vi
[06:49] <wheels3572> Dark:  Ok
[06:49] <acebo> wheels3572: are you su? if not, you need to :q!, (you'll lose your changes) then su and try again to do :wq
[06:49] <dark^ngel> or vim
[06:49] <sysrpl> how can i add a trash bin icon to my gnome desktop?
[06:49] <wheels3572> ok
[06:49] <hyperstream> no way i can play with hotplug usb list or something ?
[06:50] <sproingie> bluefoxicy: i have no such problem with root being denied /dev/mem ... you running selinux or something?
[06:50] <acebo> Er, sorry, this is #ubuntu, I meant sudo :P
[06:50] <david__> im looking for a program much like limewire or other programs that will let me download music and other stuff... anything?
[06:50] <bluefoxicy> sproingie:  I'm on edgy..
[06:50] <dark^ngel> acebo, LOL
[06:50] <fivre> david_: frostwire
[06:50] <david__> thnaks
[06:50] <david__> ill try to apt-get it
[06:50] <xarq> bluefoxicy: the kernel doesn't "want" to deny you access to /dev/mem.. it's not a stubborn child
[06:50] <[Ex0r] > anyone about ?
[06:50] <tanlaan> hey everyone, having problems with real player, i cant get it to play a .rm file i have, every time i run it it freezes up and the only way i can exit it is to force quit it
[06:50] <sproingie> the concept of root needs to die anyway
[06:51] <xarq> bluefoxicy: I've recovered files from memory before too
[06:51] <sproingie> plan9 has no root
[06:51] <bluefoxicy> sproingie:  I get 2048 bytes out and then operation not permitted.
[06:51] <wastrel> sysrpl:   type  gconf-editor  then go to  apps > nautilus > desktop   and check  trash_icon_visible
[06:51] <sproingie> bluefoxicy: huh now that's odd
[06:51] <notamisfit> does plan9 have any users?
[06:51] <sproingie> dark^ngel: disabling a root login is not the same as not having root
[06:51] <dark^ngel> not quite
[06:52] <sproingie> notamisfit: of course.  it just doesn't have a single superuser.  it has a user that can switch to any other user's permission, but do just about nothing else.
[06:52] <josesito> sysrpl: nope
[06:52] <[Ex0r] > Alrighty, let me rephrase. Anyone about that is familiar with sendmail or postfix ?
[06:52] <wastrel> hyperstream:  you can check the scanner database in /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules  and see if your scanner is there.
[06:52] <sproingie> notamisfit: it's like having root that can only call seteuid
[06:52] <josesito> sysrpl: didn't work beacuse the partition is mounted as read only
[06:52] <notamisfit> sproingle: I meant that the other way ;)
[06:52] <sysrpl> ty
[06:52] <wheels3572> Acebo:  Thanks that worked perfectly
[06:52] <bluefoxicy> 1052672 bytes (1.1 MB) copied, 0.13162 seconds, 8.0 MB/s
[06:52] <dark^ngel> [Ex0r] , what of it?
[06:53] <acebo> wheels3572: np
[06:53] <wastrel> hyperstream:  check the scanner's device ID and vendor ID with  lsusb  or just watch the logs when you plug it in.
[06:53] <[Ex0r] > dark^ngel- having some troubles getting them configured correctly
[06:53] <dark^ngel> That's a vague statement
[06:53] <[Ex0r] > I can't get the virtual users to work on either of them
[06:53] <sproingie> dark^ngel: linux doesn't care if you have a user named root or not, it just looks for uid == 0
[06:53] <dark^ngel> I didn't say no superuser. :P
[06:54] <sproingie> making root's uid 0 has been the source of so many security problems in unix
[06:54] <dark^ngel> [Ex0r] , are you, perchance using vhcs2?
[06:54] <[Ex0r] > sendmail gives an error when trying to refresh m4, and postfix doesn't let me create a domain name table
[06:54] <benjk> how do I query if a package is installed
[06:54] <sproingie> if it were 12345 at least random typos or uninitialized memory couldn't trigger privelege escalation
[06:55] <wastrel> benjk:  apt-cache policy <packagename>  will work.
[06:55] <kazukisan> Why arnt the flashplayer plugin in the repos any more ???
[06:55] <benjk> thx
[06:55] <[Ex0r] > sproingie- that's why it's the admins job to prevent security risks
[06:55] <sproingie> [Ex0r] : part of preventing security risks is selecting a system that doesn't facilitate them
[06:56] <wastrel> mmm facilitate
[06:56] <wastrel> i will have to use that in my paper
[06:56] <[Ex0r] > sproingie- You mean one that is non-existant? Every operating system has security holes.
[06:56] <dark^ngel> sproingie, that would mean pulling the plug on my 'puter
[06:56] <tanlaan> hey everyone, having problems with real player, i cant get it to play a .rm file i have, every time i run it it freezes up and the only way i can exit it is to force quit it. Does anyone have any input?
[06:56] <sproingie> [Ex0r] : yes, and some are in the design
[06:56] <xarq> bluefoxicy: still there?
[06:56] <dark^ngel> or at least throwing away the keyboard and pipe.
[06:57] <wheels3572> Acebo:  Can I bug you 1 more time please.  My Linux Guru isn't on lol ummm there is the file that shows the grub bootup manager and shows you what OS's are on the system and the time you have to select what is that file name I need to change the startup time to a bit higher lol and do I need Sudo for that as well?
[06:57] <sproingie> [Ex0r] : i'll grant that the biggest security hole on any system is its users
[06:57] <[Ex0r] > sproingie- you mean windows ?
[06:57] <eno> Hello folks?
[06:58] <acebo> wheels3572: most likely. any system config file will require sudo. and editing in sudo isn't terribly insecure if you're in doubt, however, don't make files in sudo unless you don't want to be able to edit them withouth sudo
[06:58] <sproingie> [Ex0r] : the windows kernel has great security.  it'd be nice if windows actually used it
[06:58] <dark^ngel> [Ex0r] , not sure why you can't create domain tables unless you have something like VHCS2 wresting control.
[06:58] <hyperstream> wastrel,  its not in there should i add it ?
[06:58] <eno> how do I run a gui application from the console without it taking over my console unti it is closed?  I bet there is no way to do this due to some obscure security reason
[06:58] <[Ex0r] > dark^ngel- I couldn't find HOW to make them
[06:58] <dark^ngel> Ah!
[06:59] <wastrel> hyperstream:  yes, just copy a line and change the vendor id and device id to match yours.
[06:59] <wheels3572> Acebo:  Ok but the GRUB boot manager is already there and there is a file on there that has the Boot manager config in there I need to edit that config file to change the startup time
[06:59] <Flannel> eno: &
[06:59] <Flannel> eno: [command]  &
[06:59] <eno> wow that is simple.  Thanks Flanel!
[06:59] <hyperstream> then replugin the scanner ?
[07:00] <acebo> wheels3572: Oh, sorry, I didn't notice you also asked where that file was :P One sec
[07:00] <[Ex0r] > dark^ngel- and the #postfix team is pointless
[07:00] <sproingie> i guess containment-based security like zones and selinux is probably best.  assume any process can escalate to maximum privilege, so limit the breadth of what it can damage instead of creating barriers to its depth
[07:00] <wheels3572> Acebo:  NP I understand it's late lol
[07:00] <hyperstream> wastrel, that worked
[07:00] <hyperstream> thanks.
[07:00] <wastrel> eno keep in mind if you close the terminal, the gui app may crash.  use  exit  at the terminal instead
[07:00] <wastrel> hyperstream:  np :] 
[07:00] <dark^ngel> [Ex0r] ,  If you are using postfix, the file to edit is virtual
[07:00] <sproingie> not that selinux does seriously good containment normally, but it can
[07:00] <eno> oh, thanks!
[07:00] <dark^ngel> two elements per line entry
[07:01] <benjk> whats the difference between packages linux-headers and linux-kernel-headers
[07:01] <verix> wait, is selinux anything like chroot or is it something different?
[07:01] <dark^ngel> first element is the virtual ([user] @domain)
[07:01] <acebo> wheels3572: I believe it's /boot/grub/grub.conf that you're looking for.. lemme know if that's not it
[07:01] <[Ex0r] > dark^ngel- the virtual file doesn't exist
[07:01] <dark^ngel> second element is [suer@] destination
[07:01] <wheels3572> Acebo:  Ok
[07:02] <dark^ngel> it will if you create it in /etc/postfix
[07:02] <sproingie> verix: selinux is a framework for enforcing complex security models
[07:02] <benjk> I am confused now
[07:02] <verix> ah
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > dark^ngel- I used nano to create a /etc/postfix/virtual file
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > and inside it says
[07:02] <dark^ngel> then you'll need to map it to a db
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > aztec-designs.net justin
[07:02] <benjk> I installed linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:02] <benjk> now I am installing libreadline5 and it says it will also install linux-kernel-headers
[07:03] <benjk> but that was what I had intended and thought to have installed with linux-headers
[07:03] <dark^ngel> grep virtual /etc/postfix/*
[07:03] <dark^ngel> main.cf:virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
[07:04] <benjk> are the linux-headers the kernel sources or not?
[07:04] <wheels3572> Acebo:  Yes thanks it looks like it :)
[07:04] <acebo> wheels3572: awesome
[07:04] <sproingie> benjk: no, it's just the headers.  for the full source, you want linux-source
[07:04] <kazukisan> I install flash works on you tube and everything but on this site the flash area is just a white screen -> it work for anyone else ?? i hear sound but no picture -> http://www.iklipz.com/Movies.aspx?MovieID=22FAA477-E9E0-41E4-B790-B020023CF3A5
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > I don't have a main.cf
[07:04] <ghost> could someone help me out with getting a smartlink modem working on ubuntu? i've looked at the wiki and installed the smartlink package, but there are errors on starting the modem daemon
[07:04] <benjk> linux-source or linux-kernel-source ?
[07:05] <sproingie> benjk: linux-source
[07:05] <benjk> basically I need to build a device driver from sources and that has so far required the kernel-sources of the current kernel to be present
[07:05] <dark^ngel> slocate main.cf
[07:06] <[Ex0r] > perfect, that worked, dark^ngel :)
[07:06] <acebo> kazukisan: Er.. the site works for me, but I'm in OSX using FF :P
[07:06] <kazukisan> :P
[07:06] <kazukisan> cheater
[07:06] <wheels3572> Acebo:  actually menu.lst is the file name lol but thanks alot you got me in the right area :) thanks so much for your help greatly!!!!! appreciated
[07:06] <kazukisan> Any one in LINUX :P does this work for you -> http://www.iklipz.com/Movies.aspx?MovieID=22FAA477-E9E0-41E4-B790-B020023CF3A5 ???
[07:06] <acebo> wheels3572: no problem
[07:07] <benjk> couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.15-23-server :(
[07:07] <[Ex0r] > now to work with bind some :)
[07:07] <dark^ngel> and what is that not doing, [Ex0r]  ?
[07:07] <benjk> so how does one get the kernel sources installed?
[07:08] <[Ex0r] > dark^ngel- nothing, i'm configuring it :)
[07:08] <olrrai_X> fstab: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 vfat gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8 0 0
[07:08] <dark^ngel> bind9, I hope?
[07:08] <olrrai_X> u can write as user with it
[07:08] <[Ex0r] > yes'sir
[07:08] <[Ex0r] > haven't used it in a while, gotta read the docs on it :)
[07:08] <dark^ngel> snap
[07:09] <dark^ngel> One word of advice ...
[07:09] <dark^ngel> fowarders
[07:09] <olrrai_X> bye
[07:09] <dark^ngel> rather, forwarders
[07:09] <ghost> no one can help with the smartlink stuff? i really wish I could get broadband, ubuntu works with my ethernet out of the box :|
[07:09] <benjk> do you people never have to build kernel modules?
[07:09] <sproingie> benjk: apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)
[07:10] <benjk> I did that and it said it can't find them
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > hm
[07:10] <wastrel> i haven't built a kernel in a few years
[07:10] <dark^ngel> sproingie,  Oh! That was neat!
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > !ati
[07:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <wastrel> or modules...
[07:10] <wastrel> the joys of using vanilla hardware :] 
[07:10] <sproingie> benjk: try just linux-source and see what it tries to download
[07:10] <bll3r> whats up everyoen
[07:10] <Gonzo> how can i create an icon ,bin?
[07:10] <acebo> Back in my day, we had to build kernels with our BARE HANDS.. we didn't have compilers.. we just used dd and a large stack of punch cards!
[07:11] <dark^ngel> LOL
[07:11] <dark^ngel> acebo, I have a horror story about holerith
[07:11] <sproingie> dd, eh?  lazy git.
[07:11] <benjk> it suggests linux-source-2.5.15, but my running kernel is 2.6.15-23-server
[07:11] <benjk> er 2.6
[07:11] <sproingie> farm it out to an army of keyops
[07:12] <benjk> if the sources don't match the running kernel then the build of the driver will fail
[07:12] <poison_> quite alot of people here
[07:12] <poison_> whats everyone doing
[07:12] <dark^ngel> 27420 cards in a batch that went flying after a trip over the threshold
[07:12] <userundefine> eating
[07:12] <acebo> dark^ngel: haha, you must actually be old-school, I was just making a joke :P
[07:12] <IcemanV9> benjk: apt-cache policy linux-source-2.6.15
[07:12] <sproingie> benjk: hmm that's probably true.  so find the kernel version you need in aptitude.  hit / and type linux-headers
[07:13] <coucho> waiting for ubuntu to be done upgrading
[07:13] <dark^ngel> 1972
[07:13] <sproingie> ooh policy, that's a neat command
[07:13] <acebo> dark^ngel: Yeah.. I'm younger than "1972" >=/
[07:13] <IcemanV9> 2.6.15-23.39 is available from what apt-cache policy tells me
[07:13] <benjk> apt cache returns "Unable to locate package"
[07:14] <sproingie> acebo: all right, someone older than me at last
[07:14] <dark^ngel> My first computer was already 9 years old then.
[07:14] <benjk> ah no typo, sorry
[07:14] <benjk> candidate 2.6.15.-26.44
[07:14] <b166er> CPU Temp:    +62C  (low  =   +15C, high =   +45C)  , dang
[07:14] <acebo> sproingie: You might be misunderstanding.. I meant I wasn't even born when he was talking about using punch cards..
[07:14] <xarq> bluefoxicy: you will need to figure out how to get around pages stored as write-only. but the safest way it seems to do it is with dd
[07:14] <benjk> not the one matching the running kernel
[07:14] <acebo> sproingie: Unless you meant dark
[07:14] <sproingie> acebo: oh, YOUNGER
[07:15] <bluefoxicy> xarq:  I just did everytihng from scratch http://bluefox.kicks-ass.org/blog/
[07:15] <acebo> sproingie: yeah :P
[07:15] <sproingie> acebo: too much coffee and alcohol both in my system
[07:15] <IcemanV9> benjk: look down more  .. under version table:
[07:15] <filemover> !codecs
[07:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:15] <xarq> bluefoxicy: you were getting those errors because some pages are marked write-only
[07:15] <benjk> version table?
[07:15] <Geoffrey2> trying to figure out the best way to get restricted media formats to play on Ububtu without having to resort to patent and copyright violations.... :/
[07:15] <IcemanV9> from apt-cache
[07:15] <benjk> ah, ok, there are two entries 39 and 44
[07:16] <benjk> none are matching the running kernel
[07:16] <wastrel> i should be writing my paper
[07:16] <sproingie> reading CTM right now.  somewhat easier read than TAPL
[07:16] <dark^ngel> Geoffrey2, write your own codec?
[07:16] <IcemanV9> yes, -23.39!
[07:16] <xarq> anyone else?
[07:16] <sproingie> userundefine: that's for wasting time at work
[07:17] <Geoffrey2> dark^ngel, I wouldn't have the foggiest clue where to begin :)
[07:17] <david___> how come i can't right to my fat32 fs?
[07:17] <dark^ngel> That's why copyrights and patents exist.
[07:17] <sproingie> patents anyway
[07:18] <p47> is someone using compiz and xgl ? I have a question !
[07:18] <sproingie> of course not like patents serve their purpose anymore.  they grant the monopoly now without actually exposing the invention
[07:18] <LoneShadow> david__: mount it as -t vfat or -t msdos
[07:18] <acebo> patent pretty much full-out explain the technology, so.. they're not really for hiding stuff
[07:18] <acebo> patents*
[07:18] <dark^ngel> granted on concept. forget implementation
[07:18] <sproingie> acebo: you'd think that.  but they're deliberately written not to now
[07:19] <LoneShadow> or maybe you have it defined in your /etc/fstab as ro, or your floppy disk has a write protect enabled :D
[07:19] <david___> its alreadt mounted
[07:19] <david___> should i mount it aghaain?
[07:19] <xarq> Geoffrey2: there isn't an easy way. it will always be illegal until the MPAA takes back their licensing, or the law is reversed
[07:19] <LoneShadow> is it a partition or a floppy disk ?
[07:19] <acebo> sproingie: yeah, they're written in confusing legalese, but, originally, they were meant to be clear on what they were patenting :P
[07:19] <xarq> Geoffrey2: you can lobby congress or send them lots of emails or start more petitioning
[07:19] <david___> partition
[07:19] <dark^ngel> You could start with the file header and extrapolate.
[07:19] <xarq> Geoffrey2: or look for a commercial sponsor
[07:20] <david___> i can read it but can't write
[07:20] <LoneShadow> if it was mounted by default, check your /etc/fstab
[07:20] <Generic> what's the command to check disk space?
[07:20] <sproingie> acebo: back then most patents were on tangible physical things, and the patent office insisted on diagrams
[07:20] <dark^ngel> df
[07:20] <LoneShadow> Generic: df
[07:20] <sproingie> i think patents should require a reference implementation now
[07:20] <Generic> thanks :)
[07:20] <dark^ngel> ur du -s /.
[07:20] <dark^ngel> or ... stupid fingers
[07:21] <p47> dark^ngel, lol
[07:21] <acebo> haha.. that's a backwards way of checking disk space.. checking how much you've used instead of how much is left
[07:21] <LoneShadow> I wonder if "rm -rf / && du" would work :D
[07:21] <sproingie> du would run awful quick
[07:21] <acebo> Yes, 0.
[07:21] <sproingie> well actually it wouldnt run at all come to think
[07:22] <acebo> "du / | rm -rf"
[07:22] <sproingie> acebo: i think you mean xargs rm -rf
[07:22] <sproingie> it'd still fail once you rm'd rm
[07:23] <poje> Okay, so I went through this guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear to install the junk for my friend's wifi card in his laptop; everything looks all right, wifi networks show up in the network-manager, but trying to connect to them fails - dmesg gives a bunch of the following two messages
[07:23] <sproingie> or at least on the next chunk of args
[07:23] <poje> [17179692.768000]  SoftMAC: Open Authentication completed with 00:90:4c:7e:00:64
[07:23] <poje> [17179710.460000]  bcm43xx: TODO: Incomplete code in keymac_write() at drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_main.c:1132
[07:23] <dark^ngel> su - nobody -s /bin/bash -c "rm -rf /*"
[07:23] <david___> this is the line thqt mounts my fat32 partition " /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1"
[07:24] <david___> is there something i can change to make it writeable?
[07:24] <LoneShadow> C:\>su - nobody -s /bin/bash -c "rm -rf /*"
[07:24] <LoneShadow> 'su' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
[07:24] <LoneShadow> operable program or batch file.
[07:24] <LoneShadow> not working =/
[07:24] <acebo> haha
[07:24] <dark^ngel> heh
[07:24] <dli> david__, better to add uid=
[07:25] <sproingie> i actually have a working su on my windows box
[07:25] <sproingie> tho there's no 'nobody' user
[07:25] <dark^ngel> You have a working Windows box?
[07:25] <MTecknology> How do I recompile my kernel with joy-console support??
[07:25] <LoneShadow> dont we all  ? :D
[07:25] <sproingie> dark^ngel: at work, yes
[07:25] <dark^ngel> Microsoft broke all of mine.
[07:25] <acebo> what does su do on your Winbox? upgrade a user account to admin?
[07:26] <LoneShadow> I am happy MS and Apple exist :D
[07:26] <Warbo> dark^ngel: I broke all of mine :)
[07:26] <LoneShadow> they are just making linux stronger day by day
[07:26] <sproingie> acebo: exactly what unix su does.  basically it's an alternate syntax for runas
[07:26] <FunnyLookinHat> LoneShadow, me too, it gives me something to laugh at
[07:26] <xarq> LoneShadow: I'm not, there would be plenty of good oses without them
[07:26] <LoneShadow> xarg: they killed the good os'es :D
[07:26] <dark^ngel> I finally broke my last client of the MS habit
[07:26] <Luke> whats the KDE control center package called?
[07:26] <Warbo> kcontrol
[07:26] <xarq> LoneShadow: no, good OSes never die
[07:26] <Luke> Warbo: thanks
[07:27] <meenal> wats that
[07:27] <dark^ngel> but I still have DOS 3.3 squirreled away
[07:27] <acebo> sproingie: I didn't know there was a "runas".. not that I'll ever use it.. I just sold my Windows box for a 20" iMac :P
[07:27] <xarq> LoneShadow: with the exception of OS/2, which is almost dead
[07:27] <Warbo> xarq: They do if they are proprietary (which doesn't mean they are bad OSs, just that you shouldn't use them)
[07:27] <meenal> i updated ubuntu and my xserver config file got corrupted
[07:27] <LoneShadow> dos 3.3 was a pretty good os :D
[07:27] <userundefine> 20"... mmm
[07:27] <sproingie> acebo: it's de rigeur for anyone not running as admin
[07:27] <dark^ngel> That's why I kept it
[07:27] <Luke> is there a kde theme selector that doesnt use all the KDE core stuff?
[07:27] <Luke> just like a stand alone selector
[07:27] <acebo> Even DOS 6.2 was good, for that matter
[07:27] <Warbo> qtconfig I think
[07:28] <meenal> hi all
[07:28] <LoneShadow> yea I like 5.0 and 6.2
[07:28] <sproingie> acebo: not that i use it, i just have admin on my windows box.  i consider it a single-user os as far as security goes.
[07:28] <meenal> hi
[07:28] <LoneShadow> OS/2 wouldnt install properly on my 286
[07:28] <Luke> Warbo: thanks again mate =)
[07:28] <acebo> sproingie: And rightly so
[07:28] <Warbo> Hang on a sec, did I do /join #ubuntu-offtopic by mistake?
[07:28] <dark^ngel> Use PCMOS instead
[07:28] <xarq> Warbo: no, but you might as well have
[07:28] <userundefine> Warbo, yes
[07:29] <LoneShadow> any of you folks installed ubuntu on a usb flash memory?
[07:29] <sproingie> acebo: it makes thinking about security better.  secure the network against the node, not the node against the network and users
[07:29] <dark^ngel> LoneShadow, yes
[07:29] <Luke> does anyone know how to get the SUDOed apps to be themed as well?
[07:29] <Warbo> LoneShadow: I have it on a USB HD (non-bootable)
[07:29] <acebo> sproingie: haha.. I like it.
[07:29] <LoneShadow> dark^ngel: livecd or debootstrap ?
[07:29] <Warbo> Luke: "sudo ln -s /home/username/.themes /root/.themes"
[07:30] <Warbo> (username is your username)
[07:30] <userundefine> ^^ in addition to Warbo, sudo ln -s /home/*user*/.icons /root/.icons
[07:30] <dark^ngel> I honestly cannot recall. The script does it for me now.
[07:30] <bluefoxicy> xarq:  dd dies too.  And that's strange.  Hm.
[07:30] <Warbo> Luke: You may also have to "gksudo gnome-theme-manager" after that
[07:30] <LoneShadow> I need to install minimum version of breezy (probably livecd) on a 800MB /dev/hda2 (2nd partition of my CF card)
[07:30] <Luke> Warbo: damn you are on top of this... how do you know all this stuff?
[07:31] <acebo> Obviously he's done it once or twice :P
[07:31] <Luke> haha
[07:31] <LoneShadow> which script did you use ?
[07:31] <xarq> bluefoxicy: not really, since the pages are flagged as write-only.. maybe check out how software suspend does it
[07:31] <Luke> these are obscure questions that i have been asking in here for about a year
[07:31] <Warbo> Luke: I have been running Linux for 2 years, you kind of pick it up (also I am a graphicy guy, so I am constantly theming)
[07:31] <Luke> no one ever answers
[07:31] <Luke> Warbo: well thanks a ton!
[07:31] <dark^ngel> I wrote it when I first did the server in a pocket project
[07:31] <Luke> Warbo: you've answered questions i've been trying to find answers for for a while
[07:31] <dark^ngel> never did it manually the second time.
[07:32] <kairu0> anyone think the benchwarmers was funny?
[07:32] <sproingie> here's something bugging me: my text consoles are in a video mode that my monitor doesn't like.  how do i fix that?
[07:32] <LoneShadow> so what kind of usb device is yours ?
[07:32] <xarq> sproingie: do you mean your virtual terminals?
[07:32] <Warbo> Luke: There are probably posts in the forums for that, people in there tend to like stuff like theming
[07:32] <bluefoxicy> xarq:  suspend seems to you know, be in the kernel.
[07:32] <sproingie> xarq: yes
[07:33] <nguyen_hungyme> ok
[07:33] <dark^ngel> 512MB
[07:33] <LoneShadow> usb flash drive ?
[07:33] <dark^ngel> yes
[07:33] <xarq> sproingie: you need to look at your kernel parameter list in grub's menu.lst
[07:33] <Luke> Warbo: there are but people are so n00b about it. a simple symlink was all I was looking for. People were giving all these weird files to config and stuff. its a pain
[07:33] <nguyen_hungyme> ???
[07:33] <LoneShadow> so X loads up on it ?
[07:33] <Luke> Warbo: haha there is a lot of crap to sort through when it comes sto questions like these
[07:33] <coucho> i can't access my ftp server anymore
[07:33] <dark^ngel> Nope
[07:33] <coucho> help pls!
[07:33] <xarq> sproingie: you would set as an extra parameter vga=xxx where xxx is the number of the resolution you want
[07:33] <kairu0> Luke, i was wondering the same thing for the longest time. too easy huh?
[07:34] <acebo> coucho: finish updating?
[07:34] <LoneShadow> then you probably debootstraped the base system :D
[07:34] <coucho> acebo: yeah
[07:34] <xarq> sproingie: the number is an ID for different resolutions, you have to look up the one you want online
[07:34] <CaptainMorgan> what's a nice IDE available?
[07:34] <acebo> coucho: now you're having service problems?
[07:34] <dark^ngel> I could do X, but on lethargic P60 it doesn't warm my heart.
[07:34] <Warbo> Luke: I found a post about a theme someone made and a reply was "This theme looks really bad in Synaptic, just a dark blue progress bar and grey buttons". That was funny
[07:34] <sproingie> xarq: ugh ... where do i find a table of the mode numbers to resolutions?
[07:34] <coucho> acebo: afaik just vsftpd
[07:35] <xarq> sproingie: not sure, to get mine I tried googling for menu.lst vga 1400x1050
[07:35] <acebo> coucho: what's the problem? not starting at all?
[07:35] <FunnyLookinHat> Luke is a n00b.
[07:35] <coucho> acebo: vino works, apache works, php works
[07:35] <xarq> sproingie: 1400x1050 was my resolution
[07:35] <coucho> acebo: not able to connect
[07:35] <acebo> coucho: Do you know that it is actually running, though?
[07:35] <sproingie> xarq: ah found it
[07:35] <Luke> FunnyLookinHat: hey =)
[07:35] <coucho> acebo: yes, ps -A|grep vsftpd
[07:36] <Luke> Warbo: hahha thats exactly what i'm talking about
[07:36] <acebo> coucho: You're not trying to login as root, are you?
[07:36] <Warbo> Luke: I still think using blender for this icon I'm doing is overkill......
[07:36] <coucho> acebo: hell no :P
[07:36] <acebo> coucho: Or do you even get that far?
[07:36] <dark^ngel> Well, I guess there's no hope of getting 3D on this box tonight.
[07:36] <kairu0> Warbo, what icon is that
[07:37] <Warbo> I wanted a GANT like icon of a filmstrip, but couldn't really draw it with a mouse
[07:37] <CaptainMorgan> Im testing Anjuta out... anything better?
[07:37] <gmoore> im setting up ubuntu server. 2 hdds, 80gb and 30gb. the 80gb is set as a single primary ext3 partition. the 30gb is set as a 2gb primary swap partition and 28gb logical partition ext3. does that sound right? or should swap be logical too?
[07:37] <coucho> acebo: i try to login, but filezilla (on windows) says "500 OOPS anonymous and local disabled" or something like that
[07:37] <coucho> acebo: and no, i'm not trying to login anonymously :P
[07:38] <Madpilot> Warbo, try Inkscape
[07:38] <acebo> coucho: hrm. why would local be disabled..
[07:38] <Warbo> Madpilot: Same problem really, but I am using inkscape for some dotted lines :)
[07:38] <farky> gmoore: yeah
[07:38] <coucho> acebo: cause i don't want to login locally
[07:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here ever have an issue with GRUB not seeming to install on machines with multiple hard drives (dual boot windoze and windows just comes right up, no GRUB)
[07:38] <coucho> acebo: so i didn't enable it in vsftpd.conf
[07:39] <FunnyLookinHat> I haven't done too much debugging, but I'd rather not have to remove the harddrives to start messing with it
[07:39] <Warbo> FunnyLookinHat: You sure you put it on the MBR?
[07:39] <FunnyLookinHat> Warbo, lol, liveCD doesn't give you a choice
[07:39] <dark^ngel> FunnyLookinHat, of the first drive?
[07:39] <FunnyLookinHat> By default I thought it did
[07:39] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: which harddrive did you install grub to? Primary IDE or Secondary?
[07:39] <Warbo> FunnyLookinHat: That's pretty bad then. I hope there's a bug filed.....
[07:39] <FunnyLookinHat> Ok ok, Have you all used the dapper live CD?
[07:39] <FunnyLookinHat> It doesn't give you an option!
[07:39] <acebo> coucho: I'm a little confused then.. why are you getting the warning about anon and local if you're neither? Or perhaps that's your question too..
[07:40] <dark^ngel> F6
[07:40] <FunnyLookinHat> I'll probably have to boot up the livecD< mount the hard drive, and manually install grub.  but that's just a pain
[07:40] <coucho> acebo: exactly what i want to know XD
[07:40] <farky> FunnyLookinHat, I did, but it is pretty much the same as the alternate install disc minus the live CD part
[07:40] <filemover> how do i copy all of the directorys contained on a cdrom to another directory on my hard drive from the prompt Ive been using cp -R /cdrom/ /home/user/directory but i always end up with the directory cdrom inside this one id rather just have the directories contained on the cdrom moved and nothing else
[07:40] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, I installed on primary SATA drive, I have another IDE channel with a master and slave tho
[07:40] <Warbo> filemover: Use /cdrom/*
[07:40] <dark^ngel> cp -a /cdrom/* destination
[07:41] <filemover> cp -a
[07:41] <filemover> ok thnx warbo
[07:41] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: hmmm tricky..... the installation went correctly all the way through?
[07:41] <Warbo> filemover: Are there any files beginning with a dot on the CD (like ".music" or something)?
[07:41] <kairu0> has anyone experienced a bug where X crashes when you have compositing on and you drag a video partially off screen?
[07:42] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, yup.  Weird thing is for kicks I tried a SUSE 10.1 install, and it did the same thing.
[07:42] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, I have a feeling the computer is installing to hda1 MBR rather than sda1 MBR
[07:42] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: you have a SATA and PATA drive in the system?
[07:43] <coucho> acebo: any idea how to get it working?
[07:43] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, yup.
[07:43] <acebo> coucho: I dunno.. I'm looking through docs and stuff, I don't really see a mention of a problem like yours
[07:43] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, different channels of course, and the SATA is set to primary boot device via bios
[07:43] <Kibbled_bits> hi all
[07:43] <Warbo> hi
[07:43] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: ok good, try setting it secondary, boot off hda
[07:43] <coucho> acebo: i'm connecting throught my network, that's not local is it?
[07:43] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: just to see if it works
[07:44] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, ooh good idea.  I'll try that quick
[07:44] <acebo> coucho: I'm not sure if local is defined as loopback or LAN..
[07:44] <coucho> mmk
[07:44] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, if that does work however I'll just have to go in and install to the right drive because that will bug the crap out of me, booting MBR and OS from different drives
[07:44] <acebo> coucho: might try enabling local login and see what happens
[07:44] <coucho> k
[07:44] <coucho> brb
[07:45] <dark^ngel> FunnyLookinHat, you can always tell GRUB to list sda as boot option
[07:45] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: yeah that too, didn't think of that
[07:46] <coucho> acebo: WTF, it works now
[07:46] <FunnyLookinHat> dark^ngel, not really, because it isn't even going to grub  : )
[07:46] <acebo> coucho: Lemme look up what local login is defined as..
[07:46] <coucho> acebo: k
[07:46] <dark^ngel> It will if grub is on MBR of hda
[07:46] <godtvisken> How can I change my system's name?
[07:46] <mikeymike-linux> would someone like to help me install windowmaker on my dapper?
[07:46] <FunnyLookinHat> dark^ngel, im booting hda now
[07:46] <FunnyLookinHat> oohh woot
[07:47] <FunnyLookinHat> it worked
[07:47] <filemover> im trying to remove a directory with sudo rmdir -R directory and it wont budge
[07:47] <mikeymike-linux> is it as easy as getting the package from synaptic?
[07:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Well poopz.  now I have to go and install GRUB to the right drive to get that all fixed.
[07:47] <FunnyLookinHat> And bug report it
[07:47] <Warbo> mikeymike-linux: Usually. On the login screen choose it in the "sessioN" options
[07:47] <kramerica> mikeymike-linux: I think it has a package yes
[07:47] <southerngrey> how do I update my wireless acx-111 chipset driver so the card will work on a AMD-K7 kernel?  Any ideas
[07:47] <dark^ngel> godtvisken,  edit /etc/network/options
[07:47] <godtvisken> For example, currently when in the terminal it says "godtvisken@densvartadoeden" I want to change the `densvartadoeden' part
[07:47] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: thats good, no, wait. you can just edit the menu on grub to list sda
[07:47] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, and?
[07:47] <godtvisken> thanks
[07:47] <Warbo> filemover: rm -r
[07:47] <farky> or hda or whatever
[07:48] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, well i have to install GRUB to the MBR of the right drive still
[07:48] <filemover> k
[07:48] <ickyb0d> hello all, i'm having the whole dual-boot "filesystem type uknown" partition type 0x7 error thing.  any suggestions? i've looked around but nothing's worked so far
[07:48] <filemover> thnx again
[07:48] <Warbo> filemover: rmdir only removes directories, and only when they are empty
[07:48] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, it has to physically be installed on the SATA drive so I can remove th eother drives and still boot into linux
[07:48] <richard> Does an FTP prog come with the Ubuntu DVD?
[07:48] <farky> FunnyLookingHat: yeah thats true, ok try that and tell me if it works
[07:48] <dark^ngel> rm -rf will take the subdir out with files in it
[07:48] <richard> If not could you recommend one?
[07:49] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, will do   : )
[07:49] <Warbo> dark^ngel: I don't like -f. I prefer to chmod the files, then I know that I am not deleting something I forgot was there
[07:49] <dark^ngel> I hate rm -rf
[07:49] <acebo> coucho: local_enable: Controls whether local logins are permitted or not. If enabled, normal user accounts in /etc/passwd may be used to log in. Default: NO
[07:49] <acebo> coucho: So.. looks like it refers to users, not where you're connecting from
[07:49] <coucho> lol
[07:50] <dark^ngel> That's why I kid about it so
[07:50] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[07:50] <coucho> acebo: thanks man
[07:50] <[Ex0r] > how does one setup the Maildir directory ?
[07:50] <[Ex0r] > Where does it default to ?
[07:50] <acebo> coucho: no problem.. the rest of the update go well?
[07:50] <dark^ngel> mkdir ~/Maildir
[07:50] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, yea looks like all I do is run grub-install /dev/sda   : )
[07:50] <sysKin> hello ~
[07:50] <coucho> acebo: think so, up till now no problems encountered
[07:50] <dark^ngel> mkdir -p ~/Maildir/{cur,new,tmp}
[07:50] <acebo> coucho: awesome
[07:50] <coucho> yeah XD
[07:51] <coucho> dapper looks a lot better
[07:51] <[Ex0r] > I used mkdir ~/Maildir
[07:51] <dark^ngel> I set up my /etc/default/skel
[07:51] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: nice, did it work?
[07:51] <acebo> I didn't start using Ubuntu until a couple of days ago.. finally decided to find out if the hype was worth it
[07:51] <dark^ngel> users get Maildir by default
[07:51] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, waiting for the first 130MB of updates to install, then I'm gonna try it
[07:51] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: alrighty
[07:51] <[Ex0r] > didn't get one
[07:52] <dark^ngel> hang on ...
[07:52] <coucho> acebo: what'd you use before ubuntu?
[07:52] <godtvisken> dark^ngel: i don't have that file
[07:52] <afflux> morgen....
[07:52] <acebo> I quit and installed SuSE after Ubuntu wouldn't work "out-of-the-box" so to speak, with WPA. SuSE gave me more problems so I went back to Ubuntu and just dinked with it until I got WPA working, and I'm much happier for it
[07:52] <pppoe_dude> any ideas on why my dsl connection is 1.7mbps when it should be max 3mbps?
[07:52] <godtvisken> For example, currently when in the terminal it says "godtvisken@densvartadoeden" I want to change the `densvartadoeden' part. How can I?
[07:53] <farky> pppoe_dude: old phone line?
[07:53] <pppoe_dude> godtvisken, hostname
[07:53] <farky> pppoe_dude: happened to me, the one in the wall
[07:53] <FunnyLookinHat> pppoe_dude, it's burstable to 3mbps, and that depends on how fast the pipe is for the server you are connecting to
[07:53] <pppoe_dude> but you have to restart and read man pahe first
[07:53] <acebo> coucho: Umm.. I used to run RH8.. then SuSE on my desktop for awhile.. then a friend of mine made his own distro that I ran for awhile.. but I got back into gaming after that and ran XP for a long time
[07:53] <hyperstream> hmm after doing a update and rebooting. my wireless card wont assign a ip from my dhcp router ?
[07:53] <pppoe_dude> farky, its connected in the basement as close as posible
[07:53] <filemover> im using cp -a /cdrom /directory to try to move the contents of the cdrom to the directory and its not working
[07:53] <dark^ngel> godtvisken, sudo hostname someotherhost
[07:53] <pppoe_dude> FunnyLookinHat, the router shows the current speeds as 1.7
[07:53] <coucho> acebo: yeah i'm still using windows too cause of the gaming
[07:53] <pppoe_dude> and a speed test online shows 1.4
[07:53] <richard> any reason why linux seems to not get the speed with bittorrent that i use to have with XP?
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> pppoe_dude, Hmm strange.  I wonder how the router is getting that speed.
[07:54] <acebo> coucho: Just recently got into OSX, which I had used a work for video editing.. so I got an iMac and then I decided to nuke my lappy with Ubuntu and go completely Window-less again :P
[07:54] <godtvisken> dark^ngel: thank you
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> acebo, Luke did that too.  got a macbook and threw ubuntu on it
[07:54] <Flegm> Probably because you didn't configure the Linux firewall.
[07:54] <pppoe_dude> i just wonder if theres anything i can try
[07:54] <farky> pppoe_dude: oh, no clue then, mine is 3MBps but it sometimes has slow downs and it is really annoying
[07:54] <dark^ngel> yw
[07:55] <dark^ngel> [Ex0r] , What doesn't work about the Maildir?
[07:55] <acebo> FunnyLookinHat: I would never put Ubuntu on a Mac :P If it'll run OSX, then leave it. My lappy is a Dell Inspiron 1100
[07:55] <coucho> acebo: so no gaming anymore?
[07:55] <richard> so no FTP program recommendations?
[07:55] <jackrazz> can autopackage be installed on ubuntu?
[07:55] <FunnyLookinHat> acebo, OS X sucks compared to ubuntu.  : )
[07:55] <SurfnKid> efnet is the sickest server on this universe
[07:55] <FunnyLookinHat> richard, sorry, gFTP is good
[07:55] <pppoe_dude> does it matter if the phone connections arent too neat?
[07:55] <acebo> coucho: Not at the moment, no.. I'm thinking of maybe building a small shuttle system for gaming again.. but that's only if I get "the itch"
[07:55] <richard> thx
[07:55] <pppoe_dude> i mean the wires are exposed in the basement and they're hooked up make-shiftedly
[07:55] <sysKin> ok faq doesn't seem to cover that: I have a computer without a cdrom drive, but capable of booting from usb stick and connected via ethernet to a windoze machine. is there any nice set of steps that would let me install ubuntu :)
[07:56] <FunnyLookinHat> richard, you can also just open a new network connection in Places - Connect to Server - select FTP (with login)
[07:56] <acebo> coucho: I'd have to buy another LCD since I sold mine.. not really worth it at the moment
[07:56] <filemover> im using cp -a /cdrom /directory to try to move the contents of the cdrom to the directory and its not working
[07:56] <filemover> can anyone help
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> filemover, cp -R
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> filemover, are you new?
[07:57] <coucho> acebo: yeah i can imagine
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> sysKin, you should technically be able to throw all the contents of the ubuntu DISC onto that flash drive and give it a try...  you might have issues with the installer though
[07:57] <filemover> i am but ive done this b4
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> filemover, my nickname started with my problem
[07:57] <dark^ngel> filemover, /media/cdrom/*
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> sysKin, and your motherboard/bios has to support booting from flash devices
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> filemover, like 4 years ago ;)
[07:57] <verbose> filemover: what is not working? how is it not working? is there an error message?
[07:57] <filemover> andah
[07:57] <filemover> ahh
[07:57] <filemover> sorry to hear that pppoe_dude
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> filemover, just try cp -R /media/cdrom /dir
[07:57] <sysKin> FunnyLookinHat: I'm afraid that's a 128MB stick. and yeah, it does support it (it's not very old at all
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> filemover, try cp -R /media/cdrom/* /direcorty
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> filemover, the -R makes it recurse directories
[07:57] <filemover> it just wasnt recognizing it
[07:58] <acebo> coucho: I'm doing more productive things since I ditched Windows and gaming anyhow.. compare playing WoW all day to tinkering with *nix again and offering help in #Ubuntu :P
[07:58] <coucho> acebo: i'm still hooked on CS:S, otherwise i'd just play ut2k4 or something, then i could just use linux
[07:58] <filemover> i wasnt using the full path
[07:58] <coucho> acebo: hahahah
[07:58] <acebo> coucho: Ack. Shh. :P
[07:58] <filemover> i thought being in the directory i could ommit using the path
[07:58] <ArthurBrazil> Quick Question: I ahve a server install curently and would like to ionstall xubuntu over it, Any simple way to do this?
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> sysKin, ooh yea, that disc is a bit small.  You coudl download the ubuntu-server image (it's quite a bit smaller) and try with that.  but you'll have to install X/Gnome/etc. from console (it's not hard I can walk you through it)
[07:58] <coucho> acebo: they're not big on CS here or something?
[07:58] <dark^ngel> [Ex0r] , Did I miss your reply? What fails with Maildir?
[07:59] <acebo> coucho: I played CS:S for a good year and a half
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> ArthurBrazil, well you can install the X window system and a window manager on it with a few apt-get lines and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:59] <verbose> ArthurBrazil: you can apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:59] <pppoe_dude> does the MTU setting affect speed?
[07:59] <pppoe_dude> in a dsl connection (pppoe)
[07:59] <acebo> coucho: UT2k4 for awhile too
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> ArthurBrazil,  yea do waht verbose said.
[07:59] <ArthurBrazil> thanks guys
[07:59] <verbose> what's the difference between xubuntu- and ubuntu-desktop
[07:59] <pppoe_dude> ArthurBrazil, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:00] <dark^ngel> "x"
[08:00] <acebo> Gnome and XFCE
[08:00] <gmoore> i'm trying to install ubuntu server, but my cdrom drive (only one i could find, old 24x pos) is toast. halfway through 'installation base system', every time, it picks a random .deb to corrupt and the install fails.
[08:00] <acebo> reverse-respectively
[08:00] <ArthurBrazil> pppoe_dude, thanks man
[08:00] <coucho> acebo: another problem would be syncing my ipod
[08:00] <gmoore> is there another way i can install the base system, like over the network?
[08:00] <sysKin> FunnyLookinHat: heh OK thanks, but in that case I;'ll just open my computer and borrow cdrom for a moment... easier ;)
[08:00] <FunnyLookinHat> sysKin, yea, much easier  : )
[08:00] <acebo> coucho: That's what the Mac is for :P w00t
[08:00] <coucho> heheheh
[08:00] <FunnyLookinHat> coucho, try using Banshee, it has GREAT iPod support
[08:01] <alnokta> hello people
[08:01] <dark^ngel> hi
[08:01] <FunnyLookinHat> howdy
[08:01] <coucho> FunnyLookinHat: k will do, but that still leaves the CS problem
[08:01] <phunkalicious> it's also real slow :D
[08:01] <farky> how can I create a new enviroment variable?
[08:01] <richard> which is better Gnome or X?
[08:01] <dark^ngel> export ENVVARIABLE=...
[08:01] <Kibbled_bits> richard
[08:01] <FunnyLookinHat> coucho, what is the CS problem (sorry wasn't reading all of your messages)
[08:01] <Kibbled_bits> do you mean Gnome or KDE?
[08:01] <farky> richard, you need X to use gnome
[08:01] <ArthurBrazil> I am having a problem it is asking me to insert the Dapper cd but i do not have it?
[08:01] <phunkalicious> you can't have gnome without x :/
[08:02] <xarq> phunkalicious: or much else for that matter
[08:02] <richard> I got the Dapper install so im sorted i guess
[08:02] <FunnyLookinHat> ArthurBrazil, in your file /etc/apt/sources.list remove the first line that refers to the CD
[08:02] <acebo> Kibbled_bits: No, he means Gnome and XFCE, I think. He's deciding between Xu and Ubuntu
[08:02] <coucho> FunnyLookinHat: it's not playable in linux :P
[08:02] <dark^ngel> ArthurBrazil, have you edited /etc/sources.list
[08:02] <FunnyLookinHat> ArthurBrazil, then do sudo apt-get update
[08:02] <ArthurBrazil> nope will do
[08:02] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, ahh ballz.  it seems my hack to install grub didn't quite work.    have to tweak the menu.list i think
[08:02] <andrivid> Hi. I haev an IA64 machine. Is the 64-bit cd of Dapper compatible with ANYTHING Intel, or just amd64 type stuff?
[08:02] <Kibbled_bits> Ubuntu (with Gnome) will give you a rich but simple interface
[08:02] <richard> but acebo has it right ..... which is better Gnome or XFCE?
[08:03] <Kibbled_bits> XUbuntu will give you a simpler faster interface, to my knowledge
[08:03] <acebo> XFCE is a lightweight WM
[08:03] <richard> ok well im cool with dapper
[08:03] <Kibbled_bits> but I haven't used Xubuntu yet
[08:03] <acebo> Gnome, not-so-lightweight
[08:03] <FunnyLookinHat> richard, none is better.  It's all whichever is best for you personally
[08:03] <alnokta> can i ask a question about easyubuntu?
[08:03] <Kibbled_bits> I'd start with Ubuntu
[08:03] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: that sucks, the list is in: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:03] <FunnyLookinHat> coucho, what's not playable in linux?   mp3?
[08:03] <acebo> Shoot, alnokta
[08:03] <Kibbled_bits> then take it from there if you like it, if not try Kubuntu
[08:03] <acebo> FunnyLookinHat: Counterstrike: Source
[08:03] <coucho> FunnyLookinHat: counter strike source
[08:03] <Kibbled_bits> or if you need faster and lighter Xubuntu
[08:03] <coucho> hahahah
[08:03] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, right.  It's just referring to the wrong location for the kernel image  : )
[08:03] <FunnyLookinHat> OOH yes it will!
[08:03] <FunnyLookinHat> use cedega if you want
[08:04] <FunnyLookinHat> and use nvidia graphics
[08:04] <coucho> costs money
[08:04] <andrivid> is the 64-bit cd for anything intel or just amd64?
[08:04] <coucho> and i have an ati card
[08:04] <coucho> hahahah
[08:04] <farky> FunnyLookingHat: that stops it from working huh?
[08:04] <PwcrLinux> Hi all
[08:04] <alnokta> thanks ...when i try to install it ... it tells me that i have no suitable frontend ... and exits
[08:04] <Kibbled_bits> intel too I think
[08:04] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, well, it's trying to boot a kernel that doesn't exist basically for grub, heh
[08:04] <acebo> alnokta: what Ubuntu are you using? Desktop with Gnome?
[08:05] <andrivid> well what would happen if i tried installing it, and it wasnt compatible, would i lose my current install of redhat, or would i have redhat still?
[08:05] <FunnyLookinHat> coucho, ahh.  Well imho stick to windows for gaming.  Linux isn't there yet (tho I wish it was)
[08:05] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: just imagine it was there, then maybe it would work
[08:05] <alnokta> nope ... xubuntu breezy
[08:05] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, hahahaha
[08:05] <Kibbled_bits> alno... how do you like Xubuntu?
[08:05] <acebo> alnokta: I think easyubuntu probably needs Gnome or KDE
[08:05] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: worked once. only once
[08:05] <coucho> FunnyLookinHat: i'm wishing too, i want to stop using windows so bad i can taste it
[08:05] <andrivid> lol coucho
[08:05] <farky> does cedega work good though?
[08:06] <alnokta> is it a must or i can just install some libs?
[08:06] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, it worked fairly well with my nvidia GeForce 7900 GT  : )
[08:06] <farky> i tried building the CVS but too many problems
[08:06] <acebo> alnokta: I take that back.. the site says easyubuntu works on Xubuntu as well.
[08:06] <chavo> Hl2 and CSS work great with cedega
[08:06] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, but it was too much of a pain with some programs working and others not when I could just set aside 10GB and throw windows in there
[08:06] <andrivid> if i install dapper on a non-compatible machine, would i lose the current OS on that machine?
[08:07] <coucho> andrivid: what do you mean by non-compatible?
[08:07] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: yeah im doing the same right now. But I heard that wine is going to get great gaming support
[08:07] <farky> soon
[08:07] <coucho> really?
[08:07] <farky> coucho: yeah, but not sure when
[08:07] <acebo> alnokta: have you checked forums and google for a problem similar to yours?
[08:07] <dark^ngel> As of today I have no remaining winows dependent clients. I broke down and adopted Wine
[08:07] <filemover> everytime i move files from the cdrom the permissions on the folders and sub directorys are always for the su is there a way to get arround this thanx
[08:08] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, it's heading that way.  Apparently world of warcraft now runs GREAT on wine
[08:08] <andrivid> coucho this is an IA64..im trying to find out if Dapper 64-bit will work on all intel or only  amd64, ect..
[08:08] <acebo> coucho: Yeah, they'll master DX8/9 just as DX10 comes out.. *sigh*
[08:08] <PwcrLinux> !paste
[08:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:08] <coucho> acebo: hahahahah indeed
[08:08] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: thats awesome, but all i play is HL2 and Battlefield 2
[08:08] <coucho> always one step behind
[08:08] <Warbo> Are there any vmware-kernel-modules for 2.6.15-23? It is trying to install -25
[08:08] <coucho> farky: me too
[08:08] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: i hate RPG's :P
[08:09] <coucho> me too XD
[08:09] <jeff_> hey gusy
[08:09] <coucho> FPS FTW \o/
[08:09] <farky> coucho: we are the few and the proud
[08:09] <andrivid> Is anyone positive that Dapper 64-bit would work with IA64? or positive it wont?
[08:09] <coucho> farky: hell yeah
[08:09] <andrew_sf> greetings, ive been having a problem with tftpd that i havent found any answer for on the forums, can someone give me a pointer on why a connecting to 127.0.0.1 with tftp fails? tftpd is running, nfs is mounted and exporting, file permissions are okay and i dont have any firewall rules in place
[08:09] <acebo> I'm positive I don't know..
[08:09] <jeff_> does anybody know of anything like katapult for kde but for gnome?
[08:09] <chavo> my favorite game though is Enemy Territory which is Linux native anyway
[08:09] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, same here.  I played WOW for a short while.  Now I'm all DOD:S and a bit of warcraft 3
[08:10] <farky> chavo: where do you get that at?
[08:10] <heretician> XCHat is going to take some getting used to
[08:10] <andrew_sf> oh, and im running tftpd as a daemon
[08:10] <Warbo> andrew_sf: Maybe you don't have a cable going to 127.0.0.1? (Yes, I do know what it is :) )
[08:10] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: nice, have you tried BF2?
[08:10] <dark^ngel> I'm thinking (stand back) that I have a working Intel on Dapper64
[08:10] <NickGarvey> will a debian deb work on ubuntu?
[08:10] <acebo> andrew_sf: are there any config's on who can connect to tftpd?
[08:10] <coucho> oh fawk, i almost forgot i have to convert >700 GB to ext3 without losing anything
[08:10] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, i can't stand the unrealism of BF and BF2.  Especially with the idiots that just fly planes straight into the ground.  I will DEFINITELY play BF-2042 or whatever that is ocmin out
[08:10] <farky> NickGarvey: yes
[08:10] <eps> how do I add rar support to the gnome file unzipper?
[08:10] <chavo> farky, I got it from http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041 here, but it's available everywhere
[08:11] <jeff_> NickGarvey: yeah .debs work with ubuntu
[08:11] <chavo> farky, never played Enemy Territory?
[08:11] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: cant wait for it :)
[08:11] <NickGarvey> thank you :)
[08:11] <acebo> eps: easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[08:11] <andrew_sf> hmm, not that i know of, the config is really simple in /etc/defaults/tftpd-hpa
[08:11] <Warbo> !rar
[08:11] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:11] <farky> chavo: nope
[08:11] <abu_ama3ma> I have a problem with Azureus whenever I get a message about something I can't hide it away to the system tray. Also Azureus doesn't go onto the system tray? Anybody know what i can do?
[08:12] <chavo> ah it's an old game supposed to be an extension to RTCW, but they ended up giving it away for free
[08:12] <coucho> does anyone know how i can convert >700 GB in ntfs disks to ext3 without losing anything?
[08:12] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, woot got it to work.  Had to just change the references to the file systems and hard drives in menu.lst because they're relative to the HD that MBR is on
[08:12] <chavo> but it is so much fun
[08:12] <andrew_sf> heres my tftp output (sorry for the multiple lines!):
[08:12] <PwcrLinux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18055
[08:12] <andrew_sf> root@xoetia:/home/andy/test# tftp -vvv 127.0.0.1
[08:12] <andrew_sf> Connected to 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1), port 69
[08:12] <andrew_sf> tftp> get
[08:12] <andrew_sf> (files) tftpboot/pxelinux.0
[08:12] <andrew_sf> getting from 127.0.0.1:tftpboot/pxelinux.0 to pxelinux.0 [netascii] 
[08:12] <andrew_sf> Error code 1: File not found
[08:12] <FunnyLookinHat> !pastebin
[08:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:12] <FunnyLookinHat> andrew_sf, please ues that in the future  : )
[08:12] <jeff_> does anybody know of an app like katapult but for gnome?
[08:13] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: congrats!
[08:13] <andrew_sf> ues?
[08:13] <dark^ngel> coucho,  Burn it to a DVD first?
[08:13] <farky> chavo: which file should i download?
[08:13] <coucho> dark^ngel: hahah that's a good one :P
[08:13] <Warbo> OK, vmware-player needs vmware-kernel-modules. I have told it to get vmware-kernel-modules-2.6.15-23, but it insists on getting vmware-kernel-modules-2.6.15-25 as well (along with linux-image-2.6.15-25 and stuff)
[08:13] <chavo> farky, get the Linux 2.60 full install
[08:13] <acebo> coucho: Why do you need to convert that much data over anyhow?
[08:14] <coucho> acebo: my movies and tv shows n stuff
[08:14] <farky> chavo: k thanks
[08:14] <heretician> How do you view seperate repositories on the Live CD?
[08:14] <acebo> coucho: What FS is it right now?
[08:14] <coucho> i don't exactly trust dvd's
[08:14] <FunnyLookinHat> !nvidia
[08:14] <andrew_sf> ive been having this error for over a week trying to get ltsp working
[08:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:14] <coucho> acebo: ntfs
[08:14] <Warbo> coucho: They are not yours, you have a licence to view them :)
[08:14] <coucho> Warbo: sure :P
[08:14] <heretician> heretician: test
[08:14] <dark^ngel> Have a spare GB of storage on another networked box?
[08:14] <acebo> Maybe coucho's a director, you don't know :P
[08:14] <coucho> hahahahah
[08:15] <coucho> dark^ngel talking to me?
[08:15] <dark^ngel> coucho, sure, why not?
[08:15] <Warbo> acebo: 700GB? How come I've never heard of him?
[08:15] <acebo> coucho: Yeah, best suggestion I can think of is additional storage to use as a staging area, even if you have to do it in chunks
[08:15] <acebo> Warbo: Never heard of Tim Burton, eh?
[08:16] <acebo> :P
[08:16] <coucho> heheheh
[08:16] <Warbo> Can anybody sort out this vmware package thing?
[08:16] <Warbo> Will I have to compile the modules myself?
[08:16] <heretician> How do you view seperate repositories on the Live CD?
[08:16] <coucho> dark^ngel/acebo: i have like 15 GBs of free space on my server, but that's it
[08:17] <PwcrLinux> Anyone, I need to fix the update manager for security and upgrade some of them, the file not found in repos.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18055
[08:17] <farky> back :/
[08:17] <dark^ngel> coucho, is it mostly binary or text?
[08:17] <coucho> dark^ngel: it's avis n such, so i'm guessing binary?
[08:17] <farky> FunnyLookinHat: you know how to add an enviroment variable?
[08:17] <dark^ngel> ouch
[08:17] <coucho> yeah
[08:17] <acebo> dark^ngel: thinking of compression?
[08:18] <coucho> ouch indeed
[08:18] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, sort of...   not really.
[08:18] <FunnyLookinHat> farky, it's been a while, i'd have to remember the syntax
[08:18] <dark^ngel> There aren't any guarantees of data safety when converting FS
[08:18] <dark^ngel> and yes, thinking compression
[08:18] <coucho> dark^ngel: were you thinking of converting with the files still on it?
[08:18] <dark^ngel> In the old days, I would have used partition magic
[08:19] <Warbo> farky: "export VARIABLE=value", but I don't know about globally or constant
[08:19] <coucho> dark^ngel, i still do :P
[08:19] <dark^ngel> coucho, no
[08:19] <farky> Warbo: thanks ill try that
[08:19] <coucho> ok
[08:19] <acebo> Over DVD-sized amounts of data, I don't even see a reason to use compression.. you're going to be dinking with the compression part more than the transfer part
[08:19] <Warbo> 7zip!
[08:19] <coucho> acebo: yeah that doesn't sound like something i wanna do
[08:19] <snoops> what's the max filesize for ext3?
[08:20] <dark^ngel> 4.2 terabytes, I think
[08:20] <acebo> Especially where you're moving -already- compressed media..
[08:20] <verbose> if it's ascii just running it through a huffman filter costs very little time and gains a lot in compression
[08:20] <richard> um .... no desktop link was created when i installed gftp - how do i run it?
[08:20] <acebo> "gftp"
[08:20] <snoops> just barely enough then dark^ngel.. thanks :)
[08:20] <Ribs> richard: How did you install it?
[08:20] <richard> via synaptic
[08:20] <Ribs> hrm
[08:20] <Ribs> a link really should be created
[08:21] <richard> nope
[08:21] <acebo> Not to the desktop, though.. look in Apps->Internet
[08:21] <richard> nope
[08:21] <richard> not there
[08:21] <Ribs> hrmm... it worked here :/
[08:21] <Warbo> richard: Have you checked in Alacarte to see if it is just turned off?
[08:21] <dark^ngel> coucho, you really need a miracle
[08:21] <Ribs> maybe you'll have to log out and back in again
[08:21] <Warbo> "killall gnome-panel" maybe
[08:21] <coucho> dark^ngel: that's what i was afraid of
[08:21] <acebo> well, then just make your own.. right click on a gnome tool bar, add+, and do "custom app launcher", "gftp" is the command name
[08:21] <dark^ngel> and 700 GB is asking for a lot of miracle
[08:21] <richard> Alarcarte ...... no
[08:21] <coucho> hahahah
[08:22] <coucho> indeed it is
[08:22] <dark^ngel> You run about an 85 percent chance of success with PM
[08:22] <FunnyLookinHat> Well, good night all  : )
[08:22] <coucho> PM?
[08:22] <dark^ngel> Partition Magic
[08:22] <coucho> later FunnyLookinHAt
[08:22] <coucho> oh
[08:22] <coucho> but what do you mean by that?
[08:23] <coucho> if i do what?
[08:23] <KidVulcan> right
[08:23] <acebo> First off, you're nuts that you have 700GB of data to convert over..
[08:23] <dark^ngel> Chances are good for a successful conversion, but the risk is dinite.
[08:23] <PwcrLinux> oh well, I'll be back later
[08:23] <dark^ngel> s/dinite/finite/
[08:23] <Ahab> I have a wifi question if someone can help me.  Actually it's more of a WPA question.  I finished the hard part of getting my card to work and now am trying to get connected to my network.  I'm following the steps here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo  however, when ever I put in my key it fails to connect.  I know the key is correct, and my I can connect without wpa on, so I know the access point is fine.  Any sugge
[08:23] <coucho> acebo: i know, i can't help my love for tv shows
[08:24] <ubotu_> how do you rename a folder to something else through the command line
[08:24] <acebo> But you never answered, what FS is all this data on right now? NTFS?
[08:24] <dark^ngel> fat32
[08:24] <acebo> ubotu_: mv
[08:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu_: mv - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:24] <coucho> acebo: actually i did answer, and yes, ntfs
[08:24] <blanky> acebo: will that work with a directory
[08:24] <acebo> coucho: Sorry, missed it :P
[08:24] <dark^ngel> you said vfat
[08:24] <acebo> blanky: yes
[08:24] <Shadowpillar> hey
[08:25] <dark^ngel> or I disremembered (old-timers disease here)
[08:25] <heretician> What is the package called that will automatically install all packages needed for packaging?
[08:25] <coucho> acebo: that's ok :P
[08:25] <Shadowpillar> does the ubuntu DVD have all the software installed on it?
[08:25] <david__> i asked a long time ago about a progrom to download music and other files for ubuntu... the answer i got was frostwire... is there anything that would be free to download and use?
[08:25] <Shadowpillar> so you dont have to install from a repo?
[08:25] <acebo> coucho: Here's what I would do.. if you really really need this done
[08:25] <rellim> anyone had success with dual monitors on a nVidia gfx card? i was thinking about buying a second lcd panel, but i don't want to waste the money if the support isn't there
[08:25] <KidVulcan> when the os finishes the boot sequence, all i get is a screen full of random colors that basically locks my system..??
[08:25] <phunkalicious> look up twinview rellim
[08:26] <acebo> coucho: First, groom your selection.. try to trim anything you really don't need. Get it to maybe 500gb? To give yourself some room
[08:26] <rellim> phunkalicious: thanks
[08:26] <coucho> dark^ngel: i really said ntfs :P
[08:26] <Shadowpillar> does the ubuntu DVD have all the software installed on it?
[08:26] <Shadowpillar> so you dont have to install from a repo?
[08:26] <coucho> acebo: ok, what next?
[08:26] <coucho> dark^ngel: dying?
[08:26] <acebo> coucho: Then make a space where you can convert data over in 1-2GB chunks to another partition that is ext3 or FAT32.. basically, something Ubuntu-readable
[08:26] <dark^ngel> coucho, that's the option
[08:27] <acebo> coucho: From there.. spend a few nights moving it all over in those chunks
[08:27] <acebo> coucho: Sorry, 1-200GB chunks
[08:27] <coucho> acebo: should be doable, they're mostly like 350 megs big
[08:27] <KidVulcan> could someone explain why i get a screenfull of random colors when ubuntu finishes loading?
[08:27] <snoops> fat32 doesn't allow files over 4gb as far as I'm aware
[08:27] <david__> anybody know of a free program that is used for downloading music?
[08:28] <acebo> snoops: No single file is that big
[08:28] <coucho> acebo: i'm already burning all my movies to dvd
[08:28] <andrew_sf> david_, my momma
[08:28] <afflux> david__, you're talking about an ed2k client?
[08:28] <coucho> acebo: if you rip a dvd with dvd shrink, you have that option
[08:28] <afflux> then it would be amule
[08:29] <snoops> acebo I've got plently of files over 4gb on my network.. quite a few dvd backups.. they're 7GB each
[08:29] <david__> lol... a P2P progrom is what i would need... like limewire on windows
[08:29] <torrentwoes> what does this mean - create a wrapper script: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/<your_user>/.32bitLibs/";skype?
[08:29] <snoops> then there's huge rars of old stuff.. and of course don't forget vmware images
[08:29] <acebo> snoops: I meant no file that we're dealing with on coucho's HDD
[08:29] <snoops> k
[08:29] <coucho> true
[08:29] <KidVulcan> please..?
[08:30] <snoops> david__  there's umm frostwire I believe which is an opensource implementation of limewire (at least I think that's correct)
[08:30] <afflux> david__, ed2k *is* a p2p protocoll -> amule is a p2p program
[08:30] <snoops> then you ahve things like azureus etc
[08:30] <snoops> amule is another option yeah
[08:30] <afflux> but stealing music is illegal. ;)
[08:30] <coucho> acebo: how good is ubuntu's sata support?
[08:30] <david__> oh yea, i forgot all about amule thanks
[08:30] <dark^ngel> bittorrent?
[08:30] <acebo> acebo: no clue, honestly. not qualified to answer
[08:30] <snoops> coucho absolutely beautiful sata support for nforce4 I've found
[08:31] <acebo> haha.. I did my own name.
[08:31] <acebo> coucho: *
[08:31] <XiXaQ> david__, limewire runs perfectly on ubuntu. It's included runLime.sh in the package.
[08:31] <coucho> snoops: excellent, i have a asus a8n-e mobo
[08:31] <torrentwoes> anyone?
[08:31] <david__> really? sweet i didnt know that
[08:31] <KidVulcan> could someone explain why i get a screenfull of random colors when ubuntu finishes loading?
[08:31] <coucho> acebo: got it
[08:32] <^WINBLOWS^> hi
[08:32] <holycow> cool nick
[08:32] <dark^ngel> KidVulcan, is that supposed to be your desktop background (j/k)
[08:32] <richard> is ktorrent good?
[08:32] <acebo> Well.. I think it's bedtime, now that I'm talking to myself with acebo:
[08:32] <coucho> hahahah
[08:32] <holycow> richard, try it and see
[08:33] <coucho> g'night, thanks again acebo
[08:33] <^WINBLOWS^> anyone know if its possible to run egg drop bots with ubuntu?
[08:33] <dark^ngel> Yes
[08:33] <acebo> coucho: anytime
[08:33] <dark^ngel> ^WINBLOWS^, yes
[08:33] <XiXaQ> ^WINBLOWS^, very possible.
[08:33] <acebo> ^WINBLOWS^: Nope, can't do it.
[08:33] <^WINBLOWS^> cool how and where to get them
[08:33] <Shadowpillar> <-- ogra (n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[08:33] <Shadowpillar> is that a result of the GNAA/Bantown hackings?
[08:34] <coucho> dark^ngel: thanks to you too
[08:34] <XiXaQ> ^WINBLOWS^, synaptic maybe?
[08:34] <Lynoure> yeah! The recent cups upgrade fixed my printing problems with hp lj 1022! :)
[08:34] <dark^ngel> NP
[08:34] <dark^ngel>  apt-cache search eggdrop
[08:35] <Hyper> !java
[08:35] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:35] <KidVulcan> okay.. can anyone help me 'fix' this colored block stuff i get after ubuntu loads.. please??
[08:36] <dark^ngel> eggdrop - Advanced IRC Robot
[08:37] <coucho> imma call it a day, thanks again anyone who helped me
[08:37] <coucho> later
[08:38] <vook> erg, anyone know off hand how to mount and sftp filesystem?  is there an sftpfs package out there?
[08:38] <godtvisken> How can I edit the Applications menu? I want to add a program to it.
[08:38] <dark^ngel> godtvisken, are you using a gnome GUI?
[08:38] <godtvisken> dark^ngel: yes
[08:39] <godtvisken> dark^ngel: the default ubuntu setup
[08:39] <vook> hmmm, does sftpfs exists I wonder?  Maybe I have a project.
[08:39] <keeb> good evening
[08:39] <KidVulcan> okay.. can anyone help me 'fix' this colored block stuff i get after ubuntu loads?
[08:39] <KidVulcan> please?
[08:39] <vook> ah, of course it does
[08:39] <^WINBLOWS^> sweet shows it installed how to run it?
[08:40] <godtvisken> KidVulcan: what is the problem?
[08:40] <^WINBLOWS^> how do i run the egg now that its installed
[08:40] <XrekcaH> ^^^ Hey, My YouTube Videos are out of sync the audio is ahead of the video what should do is there a differnt codec or somthing i need??? ^^^
[08:40] <KidVulcan> when the load screen finishes, all i get is a garbled screen
[08:40] <XiXaQ> ^WINBLOWS^, perhaps you should read the manual now?
[08:40] <^WINBLOWS^> lol good idea
[08:40] <dark^ngel> godtvisken, apt-get install alacarte
[08:41] <godtvisken> dark^ngel: thanks
[08:41] <Kibbled_bits> EasyUbuntu just screwed up my system
[08:41] <^WINBLOWS^> shows it installed but not sure where to go
[08:41] <Kibbled_bits> I don't know if I'd recommend it
[08:41] <vook> talking outloud now.  SFTPFS does exist, and it doesn't.  Let's get it going!  I'm gonna join. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=77397
[08:41] <Kibbled_bits> I think I easily fixed it though
[08:41] <godtvisken> XrekcaH: I think that can happen simply when a system is running slow.. but maybe there is another problem
[08:41] <dark^ngel> ^WINBLOWS^, sudo updatedb
[08:42] <XrekcaH> godvisken, i have a 1.5GGhz with 512 ram and it does it even when that the only thing running
[08:42] <XiXaQ> vook, what exactly is a ssh ftp filesystem?
[08:43] <paied> filesystem? just a protocol.
[08:43] <paied> lufs can do sftp i think
[08:44] <paied> i used it for a while to mount normal ftp.
[08:44] <XiXaQ> the Connect to... feature in Places is nice.
[08:45] <dark^ngel> ^WINBLOWS^, after updatedb finishes ... slocate eggdrop.conf
[08:45] <godtvisken> I just changed my hostname using 'sudo hostname moksha' and now I get "sudo: unable to lookup moksha via gethostbyname()"
[08:45] <^WINBLOWS^> whats the telnet prog for ubuntu?
[08:45] <XiXaQ> ^WINBLOWS^, telnet?
[08:45] <dark^ngel> LOL
[08:45] <ubotu_> hey hey guys, what's the iptables command to allow a connection from anyone anytime at a certain port, say 1337
[08:45] <^WINBLOWS^> oops
[08:46] <ubotu_> ^WINBLOWS^: you're so leet
[08:46] <dark^ngel> ubotu_, for which chain?
[08:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu_, for which chain? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:46] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: I'm sorry, I'm not really experienced at all with iptables, I used firestarter back in GNOME, but I'm at the command line so...
[08:47] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: basically just I want to allow anyone to connect to a certain port
[08:47] <XrekcaH> *** YouTube Videos Are Out of Sync What Can I Do To Fix it??? ***
[08:47] <ubotu_> XrekcaH: all of the videos or just some
[08:48] <^WINBLOWS^> Setting up eggdrop (1.6.17-3) ...last thing said in terminal
[08:48] <XrekcaH> All
[08:48] <^WINBLOWS^> now how to acess/run it heh
[08:48] <paied> flash in linux has alays been out of sync for me
[08:48] <paied> audio lagged
[08:48] <XrekcaH> yep
[08:48] <XrekcaH> anything i can do to fix it?
[08:48] <ubotu_> ^WINBLOWS^: ... the command line ... type telnet
[08:49] <XiXaQ> ^WINBLOWS^, it's probably running then. Just connect to it.
[08:49] <paied> we can raze macromedia headquarters
[08:49] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: give up?
[08:49] <dark^ngel> /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i $EXTIF -p tcp -m tcp --dport 1337 --syn -j ACCEPT
[08:49] <XrekcaH> heh
[08:49] <paied> tell them to hurry the crap up with flash9
[08:49] <ubotu_> thanks dark^ngel I love you
[08:49] <XrekcaH> but really there is no fix?
[08:49] <paied> i have never found one =\
[08:49] <XrekcaH> it really annoys me
[08:49] <XrekcaH> hmm
[08:49] <paied> i know
[08:50] <dark^ngel> the $EXTIF is left to you for definition
[08:50] <paied> an dthe longer the video is, the farther it goes out of sync.
[08:50] <XrekcaH> yea i know its just not right
[08:50] <XrekcaH> lol
[08:50] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: ah okay, what's it supposed to be
[08:50] <torrentwoes> whats the command to copy a dir?
[08:50] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: the output-port? if that even makes sense
[08:50] <paied> cp -r old new
[08:50] <dark^ngel> Your world-reachable IP address
[08:50] <torrentwoes> ta
[08:50] <^WINBLOWS^> ok says telnet> how do i connect i have nmo clue
[08:51] <dark^ngel> oops
[08:51] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: ah really? I have to put that? I can't just put my LAN address?
[08:51] <^WINBLOWS^> no*
[08:51] <dark^ngel> your /dev/eth0 probably
[08:51] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: ah okay, so my LAN addres :)
[08:51] <ubotu_> thanks dark^ngel
[08:51] <dark^ngel> no your LAN I/F
[08:51] <dark^ngel> device
[08:52] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: what? oh so in place of $EXITF I put /dev/eth0 (yes, that's what my adapter is)
[08:52] <dark^ngel> my $EXTIF epands to eth0
[08:52] <dark^ngel> s/epands/expands/
[08:53] <godtvisken> dark^ngel: could you give me the name of that menu-editer program again? :s ..and after i have restarted my hostname is back to the old one
[08:53] <dark^ngel> either should work, though
[08:53] <dark^ngel> godtvisken, what distro are you running?
[08:53] <^WINBLOWS^> hey dark says telnet in terminal is there a command to open eggy in it?
[08:53] <col-panic> S3 ProSavage DRI on Dapper. anyone know?
[08:53] <godtvisken> dark^ngel: ubuntu 6.06
[08:53] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: thanks :) by the way, how can I make it accept udp as well, just re-run the same command but replace tcp with udp? or is there a way to do it all in one go
[08:54] <dark^ngel> ^WINBLOWS^, you have to telnet to the eggdrop port
[08:54] <dark^ngel> ubotu_: correct
[08:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu_: correct - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:54] <^WINBLOWS^> i dunno how never done this before
[08:54] <torrentwoes> how do i copy all the files in a dir to another dir of the same name?
[08:54] <dark^ngel> did you do the updatedb as I suggested?
[08:54] <^WINBLOWS^> i typed that ya
[08:55] <dark^ngel> did you do the slocate eggdrop.conf?
[08:56] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: 'bad argument 'tcp''
[08:56] <dark^ngel> I am not sure, ubotu_, how that can be done in one command.
[08:56] <^WINBLOWS^> says this /usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz
[08:56] <dark^ngel> /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i $EXTIF -p tcp -m tcp --dport 1337 --syn -j ACCEPT
[08:57] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: nah not that, the command you gave me
[08:57] <ubotu_> dark^ngel: yes that, I got a bad argument tcp, sure it works? might be my problem let me check
[08:57] <^WINBLOWS^> that for me dark
[08:57] <dark^ngel> check for completeness
[08:57] <rixth> ubotu_, please change your nick.
[08:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu_, please change your nick. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:57] <godtvisken> What could I install to modify my Gnome Applications menu?
[08:58] <Dusty_> Hello!
[08:58] <rixth> godtvisken, alacarte
[08:58] <BPC_IT_GUY> anybody in here use xubuntu?
[08:58] <^WINBLOWS^> dark says this /usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz
[08:58] <dark^ngel> ok, ^WINBLOWS^, you have not finished editing your conf file.
[08:58] <XiXaQ> ^WINBLOWS^,   <XiXaQ> ^WINBLOWS^, perhaps you should read the manual now? <^WINBLOWS^> lol good idea
[08:58] <ic56> torrentwoes: cp -Rp <path to source directory> <path to target directory>
[08:58] <dark^ngel> please edit the conf file, and read the comments
[08:58] <godtvisken> rixth: thank you
[08:58] <Dusty_> Working on this mud, had it working whallago.. now it quit on me again.
[08:59] <Dusty_> I am using Rom2.4 codebase.. and when I stype ./startup & to run the startup file I get this: bash: ./startup: Permission denied
[08:59] <XiXaQ> ^WINBLOWS^, is _is_ a good idea.
[08:59] <dark^ngel> godtvisken, 6.06 ...
[09:00] <Dusty_> ?
[09:00] <godtvisken> dark^ngel: ?
[09:00] <dark^ngel> checking
[09:00] <Dusty_> ?^?
[09:00] <godtvisken> I am using alacarte, but the program I want to add isn't listed.
[09:00] <godtvisken> Sorry
[09:00] <godtvisken> I see now
[09:01] <dark^ngel> edit /etc/hostname
[09:01] <godtvisken> dark^ngel: thanks
[09:01] <godtvisken> dark^ngel: you're very helpful
[09:01] <dark^ngel> I try
[09:02] <ic56> Dusty: that's because you haven't file "startup" executable.  You can either do so or you can work around it like so: "sh startup &"
[09:02] <dark^ngel> I hated being told RTFM when I was learning Unix
[09:02] <dark^ngel>  ... cuz I had already read the stuff and that's why I was asking
[09:02] <godtvisken> It's discouraging
[09:02] <Dusty_> Anyone?  bash: ./startup: Permission denied
[09:03] <bill[1] > What would be the best way to sort a couple hundred gig of files by extension?
[09:03] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, ls -l ./startup
[09:04] <alnokta> anyone installed vhcs before?
[09:04] <Dusty_> dark^angle: nope, still perm denied ;(
[09:04] <dark^ngel> Wow ... most definitely (five or six times) alnokta
[09:04] <dark^ngel> ok ... pwd
[09:05] <alnokta> good cause i am stuck
[09:05] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, pwd ; whoami
[09:05] <dark^ngel> Get the install script
[09:05] <ic56> bill[1] : use: find <root of tree to sort> |sed 's/.([^.] *)0 /' |sort +1
[09:06] <ic56> oops
[09:06] <dark^ngel> alnokta, there is an excellent installation script for vhcs2
[09:06] <alnokta> i already got and everything went fine ... until
[09:06] <ic56> bill[1] : use: find <root of tree to sort> |sed 's/.([^.] *)$/ /' |sort +1
[09:06] <alnokta> i entered administrator's email
[09:06] <dark^ngel> .
[09:06] <alnokta> then it stopped
[09:06] <bill[1] > ic56: and if I wanted to have it seperate them out into directories based on the extension?
[09:06] <ic56> duh, mistake again
[09:06] <ic56> bill[1] : use: find <root of tree to sort> |sed 's/.([^.] *)$/ \1/' |sort +1
[09:06] <Dusty_> dark^ngel: mud@mud-desktop:~/Rom24/area$ pwd ; whoami
[09:06] <Dusty_> /home/mud/Rom24/area
[09:06] <Dusty_> mud
[09:07] <ic56> bill[1] : ok, that one was right.
[09:07] <ic56> bill[1] : you mean, you want to sort each directory separately?
[09:07] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, ls -ld
[09:07] <alnokta> would you like to see the error log?
[09:07] <bill[1] > ic56: right now I have about 8 years of files built up on several harddrives, and I'd like to attempt to delete stuff that I don't need.  Sorting them by extension seems like a good way to go about this
[09:08] <dark^ngel> Actually, I'm not familiar with pastebin
[09:08] <dark^ngel> and certainly the error log will flood you out of here
[09:08] <Dusty_> dark^ngel:drwxr-xr-x 2 mud mud 4096 2006-07-11 18:01 .
[09:08] <alnokta> nope its small ... thats what teases me
[09:09] <pepsi_> how can i make a local copy of the repositories? so i dont have to download stuff multiple times.. like setup a server on one computer that has a copy of all the packages ive downloaded
[09:09] <ic56> bill[1] : if your criterion for deletion is the extension, why would you care in which directory the file is located?
[09:09] <XiXaQ> dark^ngel, just use rafb.net/paste or something. Nothing to understand.
[09:09] <sid> two questions, How do I get out of OEM mode (I know there's a code, i just don't remember it)
[09:09] <bill[1] > ic56, because I don't know all the extensions I need to delete (and I want to check thats nothing been misnamed before running deletes)
[09:09] <sid> and how do I gain access to my windows xp partition?, it won't mount
[09:09] <dark^ngel> Will that work with Lynx?
[09:10] <heretician> Im loving Ubuntu, and the Workspace thing is great.
[09:10] <XiXaQ> dark^ngel, never tried. I guess, if Lynx support posting with forms, then, yes, it should. Don't hang me if I'm right though. :)
[09:10] <Dusty_> I'm trying to learn stuff.. its just taking time ;(
[09:10] <ic56> bill[1] : Anyway, to sort each directory separately, put the sed ...|sort part of the previous command in a file, then use: find <root of tree to sort> -type d |xargs -n1 sh <scriptname>
[09:11] <dark^ngel> Lynx doesn't do tables and forms very pretty
[09:11] <Andy> hi there, anyone in South Africa
[09:11] <alnokta> hold on .. i will upload it
[09:11] <dark^ngel> and I'm not needing to post, just view
[09:11] <ic56> bill[1] : and replace the original "find" in teh scriptfile with "ls"
[09:11] <bill[1] > ic56: no, I was hoping to sort the files by moving them to different directories based on the extension.
[09:12] <sid> how do I get out of OEM mode in dapper?
[09:12] <Dusty_> dark^ngel, did I stump ya? heh
[09:12] <torrentwoes> can anybody here help me install skype for amd 64?
[09:12] <heretician> Dusty_: Same here :P
[09:12] <ic56> bill[1] : dude, this is getting tiring.  decide what you want to do, then I'll tell you how to do it.
[09:12] <alnokta> here is a plain .... http://alnokta.ignorelist.com/log
[09:13] <dark^ngel> I'm puzzling over it, Dusty_
[09:13] <bill[1] > ic56: My appologies, thats what I meant =(
[09:13] <Andy> go to system, administration Users
[09:13] <Dusty_> me too ;-(
[09:13] <dark^ngel> def: multitasking -- the ability to screw many things up at the same time.
[09:13] <ic56> $u10: give a complete spec of what you want.  If you're going to be lazy about typing what you want, I'll be lazy about typing a solution
[09:14] <torrentwoes> please?
[09:14] <sid> I thought there was something to run in the terminal
[09:14] <ic56> bill[1] : give a complete spec of what you want.  If you're going to be lazy about typing what you want, I'll be lazy about typing a solution
[09:14] <bill[1] > ic56: I want to take everything in directory a, the for a file a.ext, move it to directory b/ext/a.ext
[09:14] <alnokta> got it dark^ngel?
[09:14] <XiXaQ> dark^ngel, it works just fine.. I didn't see the url to the paste, but it's available in Recent pastes on the site.
[09:14] <bill[1] > for all extensions and all files
[09:14] <BPC_IT_GUY> i just found an old G3 i had laying around.... gonna try to run a webserver off of it... anybody have any advice????
[09:15] <XiXaQ> dark^ngel, it displays pastes just fine.
[09:15] <dark^ngel> XiXaQ, what url again (please)?
[09:15] <ic56> $u10: ok. but you don't know what all the extensions are, so you want to discover that automatically...  Or are you willing to do that part manually?
[09:15] <ic56> bill[1] : ok. but you don't know what all the extensions are, so you want to discover that automatically...  Or are you willing to do that part manually?
[09:15] <XiXaQ> dark^ngel, http://rafb.net/paste to paste or http://www.rafb.net/paste/results.html to view recent pastes.
[09:16] <bill[1] > ic56: I don't know what the extensions are.  Thats the part I don't know how to do.  Doing it manually is easy
[09:16] <fivre> how would I bind LeftWinKey to Meta in xbindkeys?
[09:16] <kakado> how to go if I want to compile a new kernel ?
[09:16] <kakado> !kernel
[09:16] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:16] <ic56> bill[1] : ok, I can give you a solution to discover all the extensions.  BTW, what about files without extensions?  how do you want them handled?
[09:17] <bill[1] > ic56: move them to a b/noext folder
[09:17] <alnokta> dark^ngel?
[09:18] <Dusty_> Anyone ever run or try to run a Mud through ubuntu?
[09:18] <dark^ngel> alnokta, I don't see your paste
[09:18] <dark^ngel> what is your user login?
[09:18] <andrew_sf> anyone got a fix for a pxe boot problem, "Cannot load a ramdisk with an old kernel image."?
[09:18] <bill[1] > Dusty_, what do you mean run a mud through ubuntu?
[09:19] <alnokta> http://alnokta.ignorelist.com/log
[09:19] <ic56> bill[1] : find <source root> |sed 's/.*\.\([^.] *\)$/\1/' |sort |uniq |xargs mkdir -n1 b/{}
[09:19] <alnokta> its not a paste
[09:19] <alnokta> i uploaded it..
[09:19] <bill[1] > ic56: thankyou.
[09:19] <ic56> bill[1] : the above will create a directory b/<extension> for each extension of any file under <source root>
[09:19] <ic56> $u10: you ok with the rest on your own?
[09:19] <Dusty_> a mud.. its a game using Rom2.4 code base.. an online rpg
[09:19] <dark^ngel> Ok ... I'm new to this format... help me out by telling where it was uploaded
[09:19] <ic56> bill[1] : you ok with the rest on your own?
[09:20] <bill[1] > ic56, yeah, with the directories existing I can get the move code working I think.
[09:20] <Dusty_> I had it working whallago, then had to restore the computer and had a problem.. I try and run the startup file.. I type ./startup and get this error...  bash: ./startup: Permission denied
[09:20] <Dusty_> cant figure it out
[09:20] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, startup seems to be lacking +x for your user
[09:21] <alnokta> its not a new format ....its just a plain text document i uploaded to my homepage... just open it with whatever browser you use....
[09:21] <Dusty_> I am fairly new to all of this, how would I correct that?
[09:21] <dark^ngel> alnokta, what is your homepage.
[09:21] <Felos> Would it present any problems for me to set /home on a different drive than / ?
[09:21] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, first, you have to be the file owner
[09:21] <ic56> bill[1] : cd b; for j in *; do find <source root> -type f -name "*.$j" |xargs -i mv {} $j
[09:22] <alnokta> here is the URL : http://alnokta.ignorelist.com/log
[09:22] <dark^ngel> next, Dusty_, chmod +x ./startup
[09:22] <ic56> bill[1] : that'll move all the files into the new directories.  Watch out for duplicate filenames! Use mv -i to avoid overwriting files
[09:22] <XiXaQ> Felos, actually, that's a very good idea.  I wish I'd done that when I installed the system.
[09:23] <Dusty_> dark^angel, I still get the permisson denied ;(
[09:23] <ic56> bill[1] : oh, forgot "
[09:23] <ic56>  done" at the end of the last one-liner
[09:23] <floppyears> hi
[09:24] <floppyears> how can I setup my ubuntu box so that I can use it as a network drive
[09:24] <ic56> bill[1] : oh, forgot "; done" at teh end of the last one-liner
[09:24] <Dusty_> and I am the file owner.
[09:24] <bill[1] > ah
[09:24] <dark^ngel> alnokta, have you installed openssl
[09:24] <floppyears> so that in my mac I can save stuff to my linux box as it was mounted locally in my mac
[09:24] <dark^ngel> ok
[09:24] <floppyears> is this possible with ubuntu ?
[09:24] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, is it a script that you have edited?
[09:25] <cimon> Hello, anybody near helsinki or finland in general, in the channel
[09:25] <BPC_IT_GUY> floppyears: I'm sure it is
[09:25] <alnokta> i don't know .. i just let that script install whatever it wanted ..... it downloaded and installed a lot of packages
[09:25] <BPC_IT_GUY> what version of OSX are you running on your mac?
[09:25] <XiXaQ> Felos, you probably _should_ make /home have its own partition. Wether it's on the same drive or another, is of no concern.
[09:25] <ic56> bill[1] : if I was you, I'd create symbolic links to teh files, rather than moving them.  This way, if the dir hierarchy conveys anything, it'll still be tehre while I'm figuring out what to delete
[09:25] <Dusty_> dark^angle: it is a script yes, it came pre loaded with the mud codebase, I have not edited it
[09:26] <floppyears> BPC_IT_GUY: the newest
[09:26] <ic56> bill[1] : i.e. use "ln -s" instead of "mv -i"
[09:26] <cimon> I just erased my hard disk, to find out that my bootable ubuntu 5.04 breezy badger CD/rom has a scratch on it bad enough to make it unreadable, but not before erasing my partitions...
[09:26] <bill[1] > ic56: the find origonal command returns subdirectories as extensions?
[09:26] <jenda-lappy> Hello. I have a Agere 97 winmodem, and I installed it successfully. When dialing, however, it gets a busy tone, or something like that. Is there a tool to use that would give me the exact error?
[09:26] <Felos> XiXaQ, all right, thanks. I remember hearing that certain mount points shouldn't be in separate partitions/drives, I don't recall which atm though.
[09:26] <BPC_IT_GUY> floppyears: then i'm sure it will work as long as you have SMB or SAMBA running on your MAC
[09:26] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, sh ./startup
[09:26] <BPC_IT_GUY> there's prolly other ways to do it, but that is what i'm most fam. with
[09:26] <jenda-lappy> For example, if the username/password were wrong.
[09:27] <ic56> bill[1] : which command are you considering teh "original" one?
[09:27] <bill[1] > ic56: the find . | sed '...' | sort | uniq | xargs
[09:27] <dark^ngel> alnokta, it appears the script failed installing some component
[09:27] <ic56> bill[1] : it *creates* subdirectories named after extensions
[09:27] <floppyears> BPC_IT_GUY: so will samba allow me to save stuff to my linux box from my mac as if it were a local drive ?
[09:28] <dark^ngel> alnokta, is this an addition to a relatively matured server?
[09:28] <Dusty_> dark^ngel: ./startup: line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `set'
[09:28] <Dusty_> ./startup: line 7: `if ( "$1" != "" ) set port="$1"'
[09:28] <cimon> is there any place one can FTP an installation of ubuntu, from scratch_
[09:28] <BPC_IT_GUY> i'm sure you could mount the linux server to a folder, much like you mount a CD for floppy drive, and save to it that way
[09:29] <BPC_IT_GUY> you'll have to do a SMB mount from your MAC
[09:29] <dark^ngel> alnokta, IOW: is this a server that has been built and added to for more than a week?
[09:29] <alnokta> no ... how to identify the missing component?
[09:29] <alnokta> no
[09:29] <BPC_IT_GUY> I've done it from linux to linux, but never from w/in a Mac OS
[09:29] <BPC_IT_GUY> but i bet it's very similar
[09:29] <ic56> Dusty_: what does the first line in that script say?  That code doesn't look like bash code.  Maybe it's C shell...
[09:29] <bill[1] > ic56: its also complains that -n isn't an extension for mkdir
[09:29] <floppyears> BPC_IT_GUY: but will it act as a local drive ?
[09:29] <BPC_IT_GUY> b/c the Mac is really running on a version of linux anyway
[09:29] <dark^ngel> alnokta, remove the temporary directory and restart the install
[09:30] <jenda-lappy> Hello. I have a Agere 97 winmodem, and I installed it successfully. When dialing, however, it gets a busy tone, or something like that. Is there a tool to use that would give me the exact error?
[09:30] <BPC_IT_GUY> you want it to have a seperate drive letter?
[09:30] <BPC_IT_GUY> yeah, i'm sure you can do that
[09:30] <ic56> bill[1] : do you have "-n" extensions?!
[09:30] <bill[1] > ic56: it would seem the answer is no.
[09:30] <Dusty_> ic56: #!/bin/csh
[09:30] <BPC_IT_GUY> your "drives" in mac world are similar to mounting media in linux
[09:31] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, head -1 ./startup
[09:31] <ic56> Dusty_: that means that this script is meant to be executed by /bin/csh -- not by /bin/bash.  So use: "csh startup" instead of "sh startup"
[09:31] <dark^ngel> thank you ic56
[09:31] <floppyears> thanks BPC_IT_GUY
[09:32] <BPC_IT_GUY> np
[09:32] <ic56> Dusty_: yw!
[09:32] <alnokta> 'ahem' where is the temp directory?
[09:32] <Consty> how do I install xfce desktop?  Isn't there some like xfce-desktop package or similar if I remember correctly?
[09:32] <dark^ngel> alnokta, I'm not sure
[09:32] <billhead> I'm trying to compile MPlayer 1.0 pre8 from source, and for the life of me I can't get xv working. I installed libxv-dev, I've even used ./configure --enable-xv, and it says that xv is an enabled video output, but once I compile and install it, mplayer -vo help doesn't show xv listed.
[09:33] <bill[1] > ic56: I'll figure it out, thanks for your help
[09:33] <ic56> bill[1] : well, assuming you typed the command correctly, that error message could only have come up if you have a file that ends in .-n  To work around it use --
[09:33] <dark^ngel> alnokta, it should be in the same directory where you execute the vhcs2 script
[09:33] <ic56> bill[1] : eg: xargs -n1 mkdir -- b/{}
[09:33] <Consty> billhead: are you using xgl?
[09:33] <billhead> No.
[09:33] <mwright1> hi, when I change teh "network proxy" the change isn't reflected straight away in apt. what do I have to do to get it reflected straight away
[09:33] <billhead> Consty: no.
[09:33] <Consty> ah ok
[09:34] <ic56> bill[1] : no, wait, there is *no* wait that -n error message came from mkdir, given that b/ prefix.  What exactly did you type?
[09:34] <Dusty_> ic56: thanks for the help, but I still dont think it is working properly
[09:34] <ic56> Dusty_: what's the error message?
[09:34] <bill[1] > |xargs mkdir -n1 b/{}
[09:34] <Dusty_> ic56: there is none, its just not acting right.. hangon a second, let me try something
[09:35] <alnokta> it is not in the same dir ... i will look in the script .. may be i could find the path
[09:35] <dark^ngel> Wow ... lots of hungry ubuntites
[09:35] <mwright1> Ok I worked it out, you just need to create a new console
[09:35] <ic56> bill[1] : that command is wrong.  the -n1 is meant to be a flag to xargs -- not to mkdir.  Look at what I've given you more carefully
[09:35] <mwright1> and it is read in as a system variable
[09:36] <bill[1] > ic56: that was a cp of what you wrote =(
[09:36] <bill[1] > ic56: ok, that works now, but it puts all the files in the current directory, not in b.
[09:36] <bill[1] > I guess I'll just move the current directory =)
[09:37] <Dusty_> what was the command to dig up my ip address?
[09:37] <bill[1] > Dusty_, ifconfig
[09:37] <XiXaQ> Dusty_, ifconfig ?
[09:37] <ic56> bill[1] : hang on, there's an error in the xargs flags.
[09:37] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, ifconfig
[09:38] <Dusty_> wow.. thanks guys ;)
[09:38] <XiXaQ> Dusty_, you can also use http://www.minip.no which will give you your external ip :)
[09:39] <mwright1> http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/07/13/australias-new-chief-scientist-a-conflict-of-interest/
[09:39] <ic56> bill[1] : yea, I see the error
[09:40] <mwright1> i'm getting a post install error on apt-get install apache
[09:40] <Dusty_> ic56: Well, the csh ./startup did something different.. but not what i neede.. It used to work before I had to reformat, my friend went thrut his and got it working.. but he is gone now
[09:40] <faddat> Is there a way to set all my Gnome settings back to default?
[09:40] <mwright1> which is really a pretty bad thing to be getting given the popularity of apache and how core it is to users of linux distros
[09:40] <faddat> Gnome crashes on startup right now unless I use failsafe
[09:40] <Dusty_> ic56: This is what happens when I type ./starup &
[09:40] <Dusty_> mud@mud-desktop:~/mud/area$ ./startup &
[09:40] <Dusty_> [1]  10459
[09:40] <Dusty_> bash: ./startup: Permission denied
[09:40] <ic56> bill[1] : instead of -n1, use -i.  Sorry about that, xargs is one of those commands whose interface changed over time and I never remember which is the latest version
[09:40] <mwright1> has anyone else experienced this post install config error?
[09:40] <jenda-lappy> Is ubuntulinux.nl down or is it just meL
[09:41] <Dusty_> the ./startup & is suposed to work, it did before.. I think I broke it
[09:41] <bill[1] > ic56: how do I stop it from trying to create folders for files in subdirectories that don't have extensions?
[09:41] <dark^ngel> Probably /bin/sh is a link to /bin/bash and it used to be a link to /bin.csh
[09:42] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, ls -l /bin/sh
[09:42] <ic56> Dusty_: the "csh startup &" is *correct*.  However, if you want to avoid specifying csh, then you must make the file executable.  Like so: "chmod 755 startup"  Then, "./startup &" will work
[09:43] <jenda-lappy> Hello? Can someone please try ubuntulinux.nl for me?
[09:43] <jenda-lappy> I'm trying to resolve internet connection trouble.
[09:43] <dark^ngel> Dusty_, head -1 ./startup
[09:43] <ic56> bill[1] : now you're confusing me.  Were you looking for extensions if directory filenames or extensions of filenames of ordinary (non-directory) files?
[09:43] <Flannel> jenda-lappy: works for me
[09:44] <bill[1] > ic56: ordinary non directory files.  Problem is that say I have a/cvs/root it tries to create b/a/cvs/root
[09:44] <ic56> dark^ngel: pay attention.  Dusty_ has already told us that file startup begins with #!/bin/csh
[09:44] <Administrator> jenda-lappy: works for me too
[09:44] <jenda-lappy> How is it possible that xchat works, I can get google.com to search... but just about anything else is offline? Including apt.
[09:44] <alnokta> found it .... its in /tmp
[09:44] <dark^ngel> Ok, I missed that
[09:44] <bhballer> does anyone know if there are plans for wireless internet card support in linux? (like a sprint broadband card)
[09:44] <dark^ngel> I was off with alnokta's paste
[09:45] <dark^ngel> then 755 is the magic key
[09:45] <ic56> dark^ngel: when butting in to an existing conversation, use /last <nickname> to find out what was previously said
[09:45] <dark^ngel> cool! thanks
[09:46] <ic56> dark^ngel: yw
[09:46] <alnokta> what is the delete command ... that deletes all sub dirs and files without annoying me?
[09:46] <Felos> bhballer, wireless driver support is largely dependent upon device manufacturers...
[09:46] <billhead> bnballer: I remember seing a page somewhere that told you how to get a Verizon broadband card working with Linux, but it was a few months ago so I can't remember where I saw it.
[09:46] <dark^ngel> alnokta, rm -rf disturbing_directory
[09:46] <bhballer> i suppose i should search before i ask. but thanks
[09:47] <billhead> I'm trying to compile MPlayer 1.0 pre8 from source, and for the life of me I can't get xv working. I installed libxv-dev, I've even used ./configure --enable-xv, and it says that xv is an enabled video output, but once I compile and install it, mplayer -vo help doesn't show xv listed.
[09:47] <ic56> alnokta: /bin/rm -rf <target directory>  Careful that you don't accidentally specify something you want to keep -- like your entire Ubuntu system!
[09:47] <rambo3> bhballer, search forums
[09:48] <alnokta> haha
[09:48] <alnokta> do you know what i just did
[09:48] <bill[1] > please don't say...
[09:48] <alnokta> i threw the command without sudo
[09:49] <dark^ngel> alnokta, that's a safety valve so the fs doesn't poof
[09:49] <nasty_b> Hey guys. I'm a complete newb when it comes to linux. I have ubuntu 6.06 desktop-amd62 installed (because I dont know linux at all). I noticed that there is a "add/remove software" (and also another one for more complex installations), which is great if what I'm looking for is in the list. However what I want to install is not on the list. I download the .tar file, and I then extract it, but I don't know what to do from there. Can any
[09:49] <ic56> bill[1] : your description of what the command is doing doesn't match what the command I gave you should be doing.  Please paste the *exact* command you used.  Don't type it!  *paste* it
[09:50] <alnokta> all right .. done with the temp files... going to repeat the tragedy again ...
[09:50] <Dusty_> ic56: sorry, I had to run downstairs..  the permission denied went away but it is not doing what it should.. ;(
[09:50] <Administrator> nasty_b: do you know synaptic
[09:51] <Dusty_> ic56: I guess this ver of linux is not a very good choice for this Rom codebase
[09:51] <nasty_b> Admin: yeah thats the one for the more complex installations, right?
[09:51] <dark^ngel> Hi tarvid
[09:52] <billfur> find /media/sdd1/old\ files/desktop2/ | sed 's/.*\.\([^.] *\)$/\1/' | sort | uniq | xargs -i mkdir -- /media/sdd1/new/test/{}
[09:52] <tarvid> hi dark
[09:52] <santa99> nasty_b: not exactly
[09:52] <ic56> Dusty_: the script will do what it's code says it will do.  If that doesn't work for you, well... you need a different script.  If you know what it should be doing and what it isn't doing, then I can help you.  If you can't be more specific, then I can't
[09:52] <santa99> nasty_b: trough synaptic you can get everything
[09:52] <nasty_b> I know how to open it, though, if thats what you're asking.
[09:52] <faddat> Is there a way that I can reset all of my GNOME settings?  Right now I can only start using failsafe mode, and I'm not really sure what the problem is, so I was just thinking hey, why not just redo the whole thing.  It stops where it's normally showing the load screen for various components
[09:52] <santa99> nasty_b: what are you searching for ?
[09:52] <ic56> bill[1] : is billfur an alias of yours?
[09:52] <bill[1] > yeah
[09:53] <bbrazil> faddat: delete your .gnome and .gnome2 directories
[09:53] <rambo3> deleting  .gnome2 maby
[09:53] <coffeebreak> Hi, how do I install flash plugin for firefox? I tried the instructions on ubuntuguide but the package couldnt be found
[09:53] <bbrazil> faddat: and .gconf{,.2} too
[09:53] <nasty_b> MythTV. I downloaded it (to desktop by default), and then I extracted it (the folder is on the desktop). And I don't know where to go from there.
[09:53] <vook> Here you go folks, go to /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment universe and everything else (except src).  then apt-get update, then apt-get install away.
[09:53] <faddat> bbrazil:  One more quick question.... so that'll just bring gone back to default, right?
[09:53] <vook> unless you want the src.
[09:53] <bbrazil> faddat: should do
[09:53] <santa99> nasty_b: what is in the folder on the desktop
[09:54] <faddat> bbrazil:  where are my .gnome and .gnome2 directories?
[09:54] <bbrazil> faddat: in your home directory
[09:54] <nasty_b> all the contents of the tar file
[09:54] <faddat> oh, sweet!
[09:54] <nasty_b> the whole software
[09:54] <faddat> bbrazil:  Thanks a ton :)
[09:54] <santa99> nasty_b: what files are in there ? .deb or something else
[09:54] <Dusty_> ic56: When I type ./startup & it is suposed to run a program named "rom" in another folder.. then when I type ps ux to see if it is running.. I see  mud/src/rom 9000 on the list
[09:54] <VirusDotNET> how can i cancel this damn download all together?
[09:54] <ic56> bill[1] : hmmm, yes, looks like I missed some issues.  Modify the command as follows:
[09:54] <bbrazil> faddat: generally all personal config files are /home/username/.something
[09:54] <alnokta> is it a problem to use Dapper's repos instead of Breezy's repos while i am using breezy?
[09:54] <nasty_b> santa99: I'll look...give me a second...
[09:55] <faddat> bbrazil: how about .gonme2_private?
[09:55] <Dusty_> ic56: when I do it now, all I see is bin/csh ./statup on the list
[09:55] <bbrazil> alnokta: you should upgrade before
[09:55] <bbrazil> faddat: it can go too
[09:55] <dark^ngel> alnokta, you should upgrade
[09:55] <alnokta> could it be the problem?
[09:55] <rambo3> faddat gonme ?
[09:55] <dark^ngel> alnokta, quite possibly
[09:55] <bbrazil> alnokta: yes, stuff mighn't install or work
[09:55] <rambo3> rm -rf .gnom*
[09:55] <sid> anyone know the command for the terminal to kill the OEM account and create a new one?
[09:56] <bbrazil> sid: adduser + deluser?
[09:56] <bbrazil> Blue-Omega: make sure to add the new account to the admin group, or you won't be able to sudo
[09:56] <alnokta> i say no when the script asks to upgrade ....
[09:56] <Ancalgon> hello
[09:56] <Ancalgon> ppl
[09:56] <dark^ngel> alnokta, upgrade
[09:57] <Ancalgon> i have a prob with ubuntu........can anyone here hlp me?
[09:57] <ic56> bill[1] : change "sed" to "sed -n" change \1/' to \1/p'.  Test the output by omitting everything after the |xargs
[09:57] <rambo3> !anyone
[09:57] <noiesmo> !ask
[09:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:57] <bbrazil> alnokta: only if you tell us the question
[09:57] <Ancalgon> ok
[09:57] <alnokta> the bastard wants to download 400MB...
[09:57] <Ancalgon> i just installed ubuntu
[09:57] <Hyper> hmm i have enabled all respertories and sun-java isnt there ??
[09:57] <vook> do it then
[09:57] <bbrazil> alnokta: that's to be expected
[09:57] <vook> download that 400mb
[09:57] <Ancalgon> ...and its not detecting my mouse
[09:57] <bbrazil> Hyper: java is non-free
[09:57] <bbrazil> alnokta: ps/2 or usb?
[09:58] <Ancalgon> ...neither
[09:58] <alnokta> ps/2
[09:58] <Ancalgon> an old serial port
[09:58] <icevid> I want to upgrade my bios. I have the new bios file but don't know how to upgrade. Does anyone know how ?
[09:58] <bbrazil> alnokta: wrong person :)
[09:58] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: what is it then?
[09:58] <rambo3> Ancalgon, dpkg-reconfigured it to resial ?
[09:58] <Ancalgon> the one with 7 pins and 2 screws on either side
[09:58] <Ancalgon> lol
[09:58] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: serial
[09:58] <VirusDotNET> wheres sources.list?
[09:58] <Ancalgon> i dont thing thats ps/2
[09:58] <bbrazil> VirusDotNET: /etc/apt
[09:58] <VirusDotNET> thank you
[09:58] <noiesmo> Ancalgon, check /etc/X11/xorg.conf see if set to /dev/mouse
[09:59] <Ancalgon> how?
[09:59] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: you can get adaptors (or is that for the other way round?)
[09:59] <Ancalgon> i'm a noob,ppl....gently
[09:59] <bertu> HEY, does someone know how to update the bios?????????????
[09:59] <rambo3> Ancalgon, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:59] <ic56> $u1: Your description of the problem doesn't sound like a problem.  Even though the process name may be different, it may still be working correctly.  Pastebin that script for me and I'll take a look
[09:59] <ic56> Dusty_: Your description of the problem doesn't sound like a problem.  Even though the process name may be different, it may still be working correctly.  Pastebin that script for me and I'll take a look
[09:59] <Ancalgon> but how do i open terminal?
[09:59] <bill[1] > ic56, Your a miracle worker.
[09:59] <Ancalgon> w/o the mouse?
[09:59] <Dusty_> ic56.. alright hangon a second.. thank you for your help
[09:59] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: crtl-alt-f1
[10:00] <vook> icevid, what is the make and model of the pc (this kinda isn't the channel for that, but go on,  you need to make a floppy of the new bios).
[10:00] <noiesmo> Ctl+Alt+F2
[10:00] <Ancalgon> ok....then i do what?
[10:00] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: crtl-alt-f7 to undo
[10:00] <Ancalgon> f1 or f2?
[10:00] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: now login
[10:00] <Ancalgon> ok
[10:00] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: doesn't matter
[10:00] <Ancalgon> ok
[10:00] <Ancalgon> then/
[10:00] <Ancalgon> ?
[10:00] <icevid> the model is  via technologies p4x 266
[10:00] <alnokta> i guess i will ... but after the running process fails as usual
[10:01] <bbrazil> icevid: have you checked the manufacturers website?
[10:01] <icevid> yes
[10:01] <vook> icevid, at the via website there should be some sort of floppy creator.  Otherwise, you could do this after extracting the image.  dd if=imagefile of=/dev/fd0
[10:01] <dark^ngel> alnokta, vhcs is really picky about versions
[10:01] <icevid> it has the bios and a bios flasher but the flasher isn't working
[10:02] <rambo3> Ancalgon, do you have terminal infront of you
[10:02] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:02] <Ancalgon> no.......im chatting in windows ,man
[10:02] <Ancalgon> i'll note all this down
[10:02] <vook> ouch
[10:02] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: do you know if your network is working under ubuntu?
[10:02] <rambo3> you can just login safe mode and type that bbrazil told you
[10:03] <ic56> bill[1] : Since you're working with windows files, when you get to running the script that will move all the files, you have to be careful: such files often contain spaces.  Spaces in a script are used to separate arguments.  To ensure spaces are seen as part of a filename, you must quote the filename.  Show me what you have when you get there, and I'll tell you how to adjust it for spaces
[10:03] <faddat> Hey just wanted to say thanks-- That took care of all my troubles :)!
[10:03] <Ancalgon> bbrazil:no
[10:03] <sysKin> 'ello
[10:03] <nicholas> How do you get to the gnome configuration edior in dapper?
[10:03] <nicholas> Theres no system tools menu.
[10:03] <philstar> what is happening to grumpy? is it available to use yet? I couldn't find any details about how to get access to repos
[10:03] <VirusDotNET> how can i call this update cause this server is not online and won't let me update anything cause of this
[10:04] <ic56> nicholas: the CLI solution is: gconf-editor
[10:04] <rambo3> nicholas, do you mean application menu editor
[10:04] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: wirelass card or wired? Will be easier to fix this if you IRC from ubuntu
[10:04] <Ancalgon> dialup connection
[10:04] <bill[1] > ic56, I'll test it first with just symlinks.
[10:04] <ic56> bill[1] : same issue applies to symlinking
[10:05] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: this'll be fun then
[10:05] <VirusDotNET> anyone?
[10:05] <Ancalgon> ok.....
[10:05] <bill[1] > ic56, sure.  But symlinking won't cause dataloss.
[10:05] <Ancalgon> lets see
[10:05] <nicholas> thanks ic56, rambo3 how do you get to the application menu editor?
[10:05] <ic56> bill[1] : fair enough
[10:05] <rambo3> you install it
[10:05] <Ancalgon> could u tell me a possible fix?
[10:05] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/9068
[10:06] <nicholas> Where is the "system tools" menu that was in 5.10?
[10:06] <Ancalgon> ok.....and while were at it......how to log off using terminal?
[10:06] <alnokta> .................... the same error .... i will download the needed upgrade packs
[10:06] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: logout is 'exit', shutdown is 'sudo poweroff'
[10:07] <Ancalgon> ok
[10:07] <rambo3> Ancalgon, logoff or reboot?
[10:07] <Ancalgon> reboot actually
[10:07] <rambo3> sudo reboot
[10:07] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: sudo reboot
[10:07] <Ancalgon> ok
[10:07] <Ancalgon> thanx
[10:07] <Ancalgon> so i can still reboot in any case
[10:07] <bill[1] > ic56: I think I can acutally do an easier way and use the same sed command to get all the file extensions, then just symlink based on *.{}
[10:07] <dark^ngel> TTFN
[10:07] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: follow the instructions in that bug, it looks like what you want
[10:08] <VirusDotNET> .....
[10:08] <ic56> bill[1] : ok
[10:08] <bill[1] > that avoids space all togther
[10:08] <ic56> bill[1] : the {} expands to the filename and teh space.  Thus, the space isn't avoided
[10:09] <Hyper> bbrazil, and ?
[10:09] <bill[1] > ic56: no, the {} expands to the extension.
[10:09] <sysKin> hmmm ubuntu installewr was just kind enought to freeze on me when sacanning hard disk partitions.... do you think it's just temporary?
[10:09] <sysKin> ugh typos
[10:09] <alnokta> i will let my box cools down for a while ... its burning hot...
[10:10] <alnokta> later ... you are fine people...
[10:10] <michele> hi, I am upgrading from breezy and I am having problems with --configure of debconf. Any idea how to fix?
[10:10] <ic56> bill[1] : oh, I thought we'd moved on from there.  ok, I don't see you'll link using just an extension but you probably meant something more complicated than that
[10:10] <sysKin> cu
[10:10] <Ancalgon> bbrazil:this is the fix thats given on ur link
[10:10] <Ancalgon> I solve the problem. I change this (/etc/X11/xorg.org):
[10:10] <Ancalgon> Section "InputDevice"
[10:10] <Ancalgon>         Identifier "Configured Mouse"
[10:10] <Ancalgon>         Driver "mouse"
[10:10] <Ancalgon>         Option "CorePointer"
[10:10] <Ancalgon>         Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
[10:10] <Ancalgon>         Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
[10:10] <Ancalgon> EndSection
[10:10] <Ancalgon> for this:
[10:10] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: don't paste
[10:10] <Ancalgon> Section "InputDevice"
[10:10] <Ancalgon>         Identifier "Configured Mouse"
[10:10] <Ancalgon>         Driver "mouse"
[10:10] <zcat[1] > !pastebin
[10:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:10] <Ancalgon>         Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
[10:10] <Ancalgon>         Option "Protocol" "Microsoft"
[10:10] <Ancalgon> EndSection
[10:10] <joel324879023483> Hey can someone help me get GLX working? i just installed fglrx drivers with dual display but cant run glxgears
[10:10] <Ancalgon> sorry 4 floodin
[10:10] <Ancalgon> i mean....could u guide me thru how to do thta?
[10:11] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: add the new inputdevice stanza to that file
[10:11] <Ancalgon> just go to terminal and type /etc/x11/xorg.org?
[10:11] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: with the other inputdevice stanzas
[10:11] <Ancalgon> ?
[10:11] <Ancalgon> ?
[10:11] <morphix> erm.. i installed a new NIC into my ubuntu server.. but it seems ubuntu either doesnt have the driver or hasnt detected it, i cant remember the command to probe for new hardware, anyone know what it is?
[10:11] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: no, you'll need an editor. 'editor /etc/x11/xorg.org' should do it
[10:11] <santa99> joel: got to #xgl
[10:11] <patrickkidd> so what's the deal with playing mp3's on 6.06?
[10:11] <bbrazil> !restricted
[10:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:11] <bbrazil> patrickkidd: ^
[10:12] <Ancalgon> 'editor/etc/x11/xorg.org.....in terminal...ok
[10:12] <joel324879023483> santa99: ok thnx
[10:12] <santa99> joel324879023483: go to #xgl
[10:12] <Hyper> hmm
[10:12] <Ancalgon> and dat shd give those parameters
[10:12] <godtvisken> How come my sound stops working on Youtube after I open a program that plays music?
[10:12] <Hyper> java 1.5 seems to be lagging my limewire out :/
[10:12] <Hyper> 100% cpu useage when ever i search for something
[10:12] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: you're much better doing the inputattach stuff I think
[10:13] <Ancalgon> wats inputattach?
[10:13] <bbrazil> godtvisken: your soundcard must only have one channel
[10:13] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: read the start of the bug
[10:13] <godtvisken> bbrazil: but in windows it works
[10:13] <bbrazil> godtvisken: the windows driver probably does multiplexing
[10:13] <sam_> hi
[10:13] <godtvisken> and i can't do that in linux?
[10:13] <morphix> how do i probe for new hardware?
[10:14] <bbrazil> godtvisken: yes you can. Gnome?
[10:14] <godtvisken> bbrazil: yes
[10:14] <bbrazil> morphix: what sort of hardware?
[10:14] <morphix> bbrazil: a NIC
[10:14] <bbrazil> morphix: pci?
[10:14] <morphix> bbrazil: yep
[10:14] <bbrazil> godtvisken: should just work, there's a sound daemon to do that, forget the name
[10:14] <verix> mpd?
[10:14] <bbrazil> morphix: ifconfig -a, is it listed?
[10:15] <morphix> the nic?
[10:15] <bbrazil> morphix: well, an unconfigured ethX
[10:15] <Ancalgon> but i have breezybadger.....how do i install the joystick package?
[10:15] <morphix> when i try to bring eth0 interface up.. it says cannot find device
[10:15] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: sudo ap-get install joystick
[10:15] <XiXaQ> Hyper, Sun JRE?
[10:15] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: although your lack of network will be fun
[10:16] <morphix> bbrazil: so what could i use to probe for a PCI NIC?
[10:16] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: I suggest downloading the .deb from windows and saving it somewhere you can get to it from ubuntu (any fat32 drive)
[10:16] <bbrazil> morphix: it's done on bootup
[10:16] <poje> Okay so now I put myself in a corner: installed dapper on the desktop finally and now I don't know how to get the wifi card working so I can get all the stuff I need for it
[10:16] <Ancalgon> bbrazil:wat .deb?
[10:16] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: the .geb for breezy joystick
[10:16] <Ancalgon> all my drives are far32
[10:16] <Ancalgon> oh...where might i get it?
[10:16] <krogh> morphix: try ls -ld /sys/class/net/eth*
[10:16] <bbrazil> morphix: what model card is it?
[10:17] <poje> Actually, is there a way I can share my net connection through this laptop? Like pipe net from the wifi card in the laptop through the eth card
[10:17] <morphix> bbrazil: hmm.. ok, according to the NIC's website, it uses a realtek chip
[10:17] <bbrazil> morphix: and does it come up in 'lspci'?
[10:17] <bbrazil> morphix: rtl8xxx are well supported
[10:17] <morphix> it uses. erm, RTL8169s/8110s
[10:18] <bbrazil> morphix: gigabit, right?
[10:18] <morphix> yeh
[10:18] <munu> i have a problem using CPAN on kubuntu. even install Bundle::CPAN does not work. anybody knows anyhting about thta issue?
[10:18] <Xyc0> I am having issues connecting my wireless, anyone have any insight?
[10:18] <bbrazil> morphix: you might have to load a  module for that. Does it show in ifconfig -a?
[10:18] <morphix> bbrazil: not sure.. i
[10:18] <morphix> i'll go and check
[10:19] <bbrazil> morphix: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig -a and lspci?
[10:20] <dupondje> hi guys :) i've got a problem, i just bought me a new pc :)) and AMD AM2 with nForce 590 SLI chipset, now i have 2x320gb in RAID0 for OS, but when i try to install ubuntu, the RAID0 is seen as 2 hdd's :s how can i make its seen as a array ?
[10:20] <bbrazil> dupondje: how is the raid0 setup?
[10:20] <BazziR> dupondje: I think you need to install from text mode then, but I'm not sure
[10:21] <kakado> pojo, yes it is possible
[10:21] <dupondje> bbrazil: how u mean ?
[10:21] <bbrazil> dupondje: is it on a chip or in software?
[10:21] <dupondje> BazziR: so download the alternate cdrom ?
[10:21] <dupondje> bbrazil: on the chip
[10:22] <dupondje> the chip bios gives array info @ boot, and says its Healty :)
[10:22] <ic56> dupondje: if the diskarray is being seen as individual disks, then its BIOS must be configured to disable teh RAID functionality.
[10:22] <Xyc0> When I installed Dapper, it detected my wireless card, I activated it, but then I could not detect the AP and would not connect even if I typed in the eesd myself.  Where can I go from here?
[10:22] <bbrazil> dupondje: do you also have windows installed?
[10:22] <dupondje> nope
[10:23] <dupondje> i just put it together :) so :D
[10:23] <bbrazil> dupondje: thats easy then, just do your raid in software
[10:23] <Ancalgon> bbrazil:hey......sorry for repetition.....but how do i get the joystick .geb file for breezy
[10:23] <ic56> dupondje: you must either figure out how to change the hw configuration (perhaps a jumper?) or else you'll have to forget about hw raid and do it in sw
[10:23] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <bbrazil> dupondje: ah, it's fakeraid
[10:24] <bbrazil> dupondje: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71735
[10:24] <bbrazil> dupondje: I suggest using just LVM
[10:24] <bbrazil> dupondje: or infact a raid1 setup, for redundancy
[10:25] <Xyc0> Am I asking in the wrong IRC channel?
[10:25] <bbrazil> Xyc0: it's the right channel, wait a bit for someone who knows wireless to come along
[10:25] <Xyc0> bbrazil: thanks
[10:25] <poje> Yeah, a wifi guru would help me tremendously right now
[10:25] <poje> I have a laptop and desktop that refuse to cooperate
[10:26] <spades> Xyc0 can you open up a terminal and do an iwlist eth1/wlan0 scanning  and see if it finds your ap, replace eth1/wlan0 with your actual device
[10:26] <Ancalgon> bbrazil:......got the deb files....put them inall my disks..i think they appear as hda 1,5,6..etc
[10:26] <Xyc0> spades: sudo iwlist eth1
[10:27] <Xyc0> spades: ?
[10:27] <spades> Xyc0 just iwlist eth1 scanning
[10:27] <roxlu> hi all
[10:27] <VirusDotNET> Does anyone know how to make a install that already started cancel?
[10:27] <Xyc0> spades: no scan results
[10:27] <Ancalgon> then can i just use the command sudo ap-get install joystick?
[10:27] <roxlu> is there a standalone flash player for ubuntu? so I can play .swf file w/o a browser?
[10:28] <spades> Xyc0 what kind of card you have? lspci should say the pertinent info
[10:28] <Xyc0> Broadcom 4306
[10:28] <VirusDotNET> this fucking sucks balls
[10:28] <need_help> How do I install a (True type) font in Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:28] <spades> need_help copy it to /usr/share/fonts
[10:28] <ajax4> !fonts
[10:28] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[10:28] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[10:28] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: no, use dpkg-i joystick-versionnumber.deb
[10:28] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: *dpkg -i
[10:28] <need_help> spades: Thanks
[10:29] <roxlu> Anyone?
[10:29] <spades> SurfnKid alive?
[10:29] <Ancalgon> versionnumber??-----thats 5.10 rite?
[10:29] <bbrazil> VirusDotNET: watch your language please
[10:29] <NthDegree> how on earth do people get that @ubuntu/member bit?
[10:29] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: you'll knwo when you download it
[10:29] <Xyc0> spades: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 03)
[10:29] <bbrazil> NthDegree: by being elected and asking
[10:30] <VirusDotNET> im pissed cuase no one wants to help me i been sitting here trying to get help for the past 20 minutes and everyone ignores me cause the support for ubuntu sucks
[10:30] <spades> Xyc0 do you have the drivers for it, might have some luck with ndiswrapper
[10:30] <NthDegree> VirusDotNET what is the problem?
[10:30] <VirusDotNET> Does anyone know how to make a install that already started cancel?
[10:30] <poje> I just installed dapper on my desktop and when I try to put ndiswrapper-utils on from the CD a) it fails and gives a md5 mismatch error and b) has some crazy i/o error messages in dmesg about hda (probably the cd drive)
[10:30] <Ancalgon> the filename doesnt give a versionnumber
[10:30] <poje> So my question is wtf?
[10:30] <Xyc0> spades: Dapper identified it and assigned it as eth1, is that not drivers?
[10:30] <nooseisloose> so I have one of these nifty wireless (pci) cards that doesn't configure itself.  I have mixed success getting it to work and would like someone to help me understand more clearly how and when during boot ubuntu installs teh driver
[10:30] <Ancalgon> do u mean i sould just dpkg -i filename
[10:30] <TARZEAU> VirusDotNET: sure, remove the power cable
[10:30] <NthDegree> lol
[10:30] <VirusDotNET> im trying to cancel this install that won't stop trying to connect to a broken server
[10:30] <spades> Xyc0 sometimes the dapper drivers dont do the trick unfortunately
[10:30] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: yes
[10:31] <Ancalgon> ok....
[10:31] <NthDegree> oh i know what you mean VirusDotNET
[10:31] <VirusDotNET> TARZEAU, i have reboot my pc and it told me not to do anymore installs til this install finishes
[10:31] <roxlu> bbrazil: do you know if there is a standalone flash player for ubuntu?
[10:31] <NthDegree> you are stuck at the scanning mirror bit i presume
[10:31] <bbrazil> !restricted > roxlu
[10:31] <VirusDotNET> Connecting to alien.ssl.berkeley.edu|128.32.18.176|:21... failed: Connection timed out.
[10:31] <VirusDotNET> Retrying.
[10:31] <bbrazil> roxlu: might be something in that pm
[10:31] <Ancalgon> ok......and the protocol will be.....microsoft?
[10:31] <morphix> bbrazil: yeh its in ifconfig -a.. its under eth1 :)
[10:31] <ic56> VirusDotNET: either you are being ignored because you are rude (which you are), or you are receiving no answer because no one has the answer.  Did you start that install from teh command line or the GUI?
[10:31] <bbrazil> morphix: then you just have to configure it
[10:31] <roxlu> thanx
[10:32] <VirusDotNET> gui
[10:32] <Xyc0> spades: will I need to deactivate the dapper drivers to use ndiswrapper?
[10:32] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: serial I guess
[10:32] <spades> Xyc0 just the bcm one, have you checked the forum to see if anyone had the same card and got any info?
[10:32] <need_help> My wastebasket won't empty when I tell it to
[10:32] <VirusDotNET> ic56, if they don't have the answerswouldn't it be more better to say we don't know how to help you with it instead of being ignored?
[10:32] <morphix> bbrazil: is "TXQUEUELEN" the card speed?
[10:32] <Ancalgon> ok...............bbrazil and others........thanx for ur help!!!!!!!! see u later on irc using ubuntu if i can get my comp to work.......
[10:32] <bbrazil> morphix: no, the transmission queue size
[10:33] <Xyc0> spades: I have always used NDISWRAPPER on older releases, this is the first that actually identified it
[10:33] <spades> VirusDotNET theres just under 800 people here, even with 10% active, thats 80 dont knows scrolling
[10:33] <bbrazil> Ancalgon: try them all :) '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' will restart gnome
[10:33] <winman> my rhythmbox on dapper doesn't recognize MP3s .. what needs to be done to fix this?
[10:33] <need_help> My wastebasket doesn't empty when I tell it to!
[10:33] <bbrazil> !restricted > winman
[10:33] <Ancalgon> ok...bbye
[10:33] <NthDegree> winman, you need to install extra codecs
[10:33] <ic56> VirusDotNET: when answering, please remember to specify whom you are addressing.  I almost missed your answer.  Anyway. I have little knowledge of GUI so I can't help you with that.  As for people saying they don't know, there are over a hundred people in this channel.  Do you really want to be flooded with a hundred "I don't know"s?!
[10:33] <bbrazil> winman: see the pm from ubotu
[10:34] <poje> How can I use apt-get to get a package off the net but save it locally as a .deb so I can plop it on a usb key?
[10:34] <morphix> bbrazil: ok.. it seems even tho i configured the card.. it cant connect on my network, the only thing i can think of.. if the card is trying to do gigabit.. as i currently dont have a gigabit switch. getting one next week.
[10:34] <winman> thanks bbrazil, NthDegree :)
[10:34] <bbrazil> poje: apt-zip
[10:34] <bbrazil> poje: or apt-get download
[10:34] <poje> bbrazil: awesome, thanks very much
[10:34] <ajax4> need_help: The trash icon doesn't change?
[10:34] <bbrazil> poje: sorry, that's the wron apt-get option
[10:34] <Xyc0> spades: how can I deactivate the dapper drivers, I know NDISwrapper
[10:35] <poje> bbrazil: I was about to say ;)
[10:35] <poje> bbrazil: apt-zip then?
[10:35] <need_help> no and there is 2 things in there all the time
[10:35] <z3r0x> hi @ app
[10:35] <bbrazil> poje: yeah, it'll get all the dependancies too
[10:35] <poje> bbrazil: awesome, thanks :D
[10:35] <spades> Xyc0 sudo modprobe -r bmc43xx  or lsmod | grep bcm to see the exact driver, maybe needs to be blacklisted too
[10:35] <bbrazil> poje: you could just goto packages.ubuntu.com and grab the file
[10:35] <VirusDotNET> ic56, well atleast im better off with a different one or plain better off with windows since i can just call them and get support cause they know how to do the operating system. Hell I taught my own self everything about the windows system.
[10:35] <need_help> ajax4: yeah it wont; and there is 2 icons in there that wont delete
[10:36] <Tmob_> can someone send me their /etc/acpi/sleep.sh file? i would like to put up a patch for bug 53042.. i forgot to keep an old copy around :/
[10:36] <z3r0x> is it possible to boot a partition without shuting down linux? like vmware or something like this?
[10:36] <ajax4> need_help: Have you tried deleting them as root?
[10:36] <need_help> how
[10:36] <need_help> where are they located
[10:36] <morphix> bbrazil: how do i configure the card to run in 100mbit instead of gigabit for now?
[10:36] <ajax4> need_help: Hang on
[10:36] <Xyc0> spades: am I looking for the name or the number?
[10:36] <need_help> kk
[10:36] <bbrazil> morphix: mii-tool/ethtool will tell you the link status. it should auto-negotiate
[10:36] <Tmob> morphix, its automatic based on signalling
[10:37] <Tmob> you dont choose afiak
[10:37] <morphix> ah ok..
[10:37] <Tmob> s/afiak/afaik
[10:37] <bbrazil> Tmob: you cna force it actually
[10:37] <spades> Xyc0 the module should be bcm43xx but look for the driver name, im almost certain its bcm43xx though
[10:37] <VirusDotNET> fuck this bullshit
[10:37] <need_help> what a faggot
[10:37] <bbrazil> need_help: language...
[10:37] <Tmob> bbrazil, ok.. never had to do that.. if the router supports it it automatically escales to 100mbps for me
[10:37] <need_help> what a ********
[10:37] <Tmob> s/escales/escalates
[10:37] <morphix> well the card doesnt seem to be talking to anything on my network :(.. dhcp gives nothing. and static assigning doesnt give any network activity either
[10:38] <bbrazil> Tmob: yip, thats the auto-mdi
[10:38] <Tmob> nooseisloose, not working.. i believe dCC wont work here :(
[10:38] <need_help> who was VirusDotNET?
[10:38] <ic56> VirusDotNET: good luck with windows.  My own experience with it was very disappointing.  Their support people are personable but they can't make the OS do things of which it's incapable.  I.e. they can't make it work
[10:38] <Xyc0> spades: yes, you are correct
[10:38] <nooseisloose> pastebin?
[10:38] <Tmob> nooseisloose, sure
[10:38] <need_help> ic56: VirusDotNET left
[10:38] <spades> ic56 clear cut example of ymmv :)
[10:38] <Tmob> nooseisloose, as long as its not modified and from dapper 6.06
[10:38] <bbrazil> morphix: what do mii-tol and ethtool say?
[10:38] <bbrazil> morphix: and is the link light on?
[10:38] <nooseisloose> tmob: stock, afaik
[10:39] <ic56> need_help: thanks.
[10:39] <Tmob> nooseisloose, ok cool
[10:39] <morphix> bbrazil: the link light is on, havent tried mii-tool or ethtool yet.. brb..
[10:39] <need_help> ic56: ;)
[10:39] <holycow> hehehe
[10:39] <holycow> poor fella is going to call support for windows
[10:39] <holycow> hahahaha
[10:39] <holycow> thats damned funny
[10:39] <bbrazil> morphix: generall one of them will work, depending on the card
[10:39] <need_help> >holycow poor fella is going to call support for windows: haha
[10:40] <need_help> where is the trash folder located, I need to delete some stuff as root
[10:40] <bbrazil> need_help: ~/Desktop/.Trash I think
[10:40] <need_help> k
[10:41] <holycow> no
[10:41] <bbrazil> need_help: ah, ~/.Trash
[10:41] <holycow> ~/.Trash
[10:41] <need_help> ok
[10:41] <holycow> also man locate
[10:41] <bbrazil> I tpyically use /dev/null :)
[10:41] <need_help> theres nothing in there? but theres 2 things in my wastebasked? :/
[10:41] <bbrazil> holycow: updatedb runs as root on ubuntu?
[10:41] <Xyc0> spades: how do I deactivate the bcm43xx drivers?
[10:42] <ajax4> need_help: yeah, its ~/.Trash
[10:42] <ajax4> need_help: What are the two filenames in your wastebasket?
[10:42] <holycow> well it will run as user but of course then it will only index what the user has access to
[10:42] <spades> Xyc0 sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx should unload it
[10:42] <bbrazil> holycow: updatedb usually runs as either nobody or root
[10:43] <need_help> ajax4: (folder) ttf-telgu-fonts and (file) fonts.cache-1 [they are copies not the originals in /usr/share/fonts] 
[10:43] <NthDegree> Xyc0 try sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx
[10:43] <holycow> not in my experience, although really i've only run debian
[10:43] <NthDegree> oops i forgot to read again :$
[10:43] <bbrazil> holycow: ah, it's slocate on ubntu
[10:43] <ajax4> need_help: type this: cd ~/.Trash
[10:43] <Xyc0> spades: will that prevent it from reactivating on bootup?
[10:43] <spades> NthDegree double help is better than none
[10:43] <NthDegree> lol
[10:43] <ajax4> need_help: then type: sudo rm *
[10:43] <need_help> ajax4: the folder just disapeared when I tried to view its contents - said it dont exist (yay)
[10:43] <spades> Xyc0 there is a way to blacklist it, gimme a min to find iut
[10:44] <poje> bbrazil: ugh, sorry to keep bothering you but the man page is not being terribly helpful - I came up with apt-zip-list -m /media/usbstick -p ndiswrapper-utils and I got a "no non-option arguments allowed" error - what am I missing here?
[10:44] <ajax4> need_help: cd ~/.Trash to make sure
[10:44] <need_help> There is nothing in the ~/.Trash
[10:44] <spades> Xyc0 i think adding it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist should do it
[10:44] <bbrazil> poje: sorry, I've never used it
[10:44] <need_help> ajax4: rm: cannot remove `*': No such file or directory
[10:44] <poje> bbrazil: haha no problem, I'll figure it out eventually
[10:44] <bbrazil> need_help: la -la
[10:44] <need_help> bbrazil: ???
[10:45] <nooseisloose> tmob: http://pastebin.ca/88748
[10:45] <bbrazil> need_help: *ls -la
[10:45] <ic56> need_help: perhaps the files are hidden (i.e. they begin with a dot).  Use ls -la to show hidden files
[10:45] <need_help> k
[10:45] <Xyc0> spades: add blacklist bcm43xx to the end?
[10:45] <need_help> Nothing,
[10:46] <spades> Xyc0 yes
[10:46] <need_help> Well there is the . and .., but we all know what they are
[10:46] <bbrazil> need_help: not even . and ..?
[10:46] <spades> Xyc0 just bcm43xx in the file named blacklist, create if needed
[10:46] <need_help> bbrazil: Well there is the . and .., but we all know what they are
[10:46] <Xyc0> spades: ok thanks, now I can wrestle with ndiswrapper properly
[10:46] <Tmob> nooseisloose, tanks
[10:46] <morphix> bbrazil: ethtool gave back, autonegotiation on, speed, 100base & and found a link
[10:46] <Tmob> thanks*
[10:46] <need_help> ajax4: Well there is the . and .., but we all know what they are
[10:46] <spades> Xyc0 no prob, good luck :)
[10:46] <nooseisloose> tmob: sure
[10:46] <morphix> bbrazil: but still its unable to get a IP from dhcp :(
[10:47] <ajax4> need_help: If the .Trash directory is empty then your trash is empty. Is the icon changed now?
[10:47] <bbrazil> morphix: how are you turning on dhcp?
[10:47] <Xyc0> be back later, gonna try to mess with ndiswrapper
[10:47] <morphix> bbrazil: turning on??
[10:47] <need_help> ajax4: No still says theres something in it
[10:47] <bbrazil> morphix: it doesn't just happen
[10:47] <winman> bbrazil, I installed the packages mentioned in the links you gave me, gstreamer0.10-xxxx, but still rhythmbox fails to recognize my mp3s
[10:47] <need_help> ajax4: fonts.cache-1
[10:47] <bbrazil> morphix: do you want the now solution or the permament solution?
[10:48] <bbrazil> winman: did you restart rythmbox?
[10:48] <ic56> this is hillarious.  I PM'd VirusDotNET with my response when he left teh channel.  We exchanged a couple of messages where I pointed out useful solutions, like paying for a support contract.  Then he stopped saying anything meritting a response so I didn't respond and let him have teh last word.  Apparently that annoyed him too -- now he's messaging me to stop messaging him! "or else"
[10:48] <need_help> ajax4: BUT - Couldn't display "/home/lee/.Trash/fonts.cache-1". when I try to open it
[10:48] <morphix> bbrazil: i just have eth1 inet dhcp set in config
[10:48] <need_help> shall I just reboot and see what happens?
[10:48] <winman> bbrazil, yes
[10:48] <ajax4> need_help: Its possible that your trash is actually empty but the icon hasn't reflected the changes.
[10:48] <ajax4> need_help: Yeah you could try that.
[10:48] <morphix> bbrazil: what are the solutions then?
[10:48] <bbrazil> winman: odd, it worked fine for me
[10:48] <need_help> kk cya in a bit
[10:48] <winman> bbrazil, it wasn't running when I installed the packages..
[10:48] <winman> bbrazil, oh .. too bad
[10:48] <bbrazil> morphix: that's the pernamnet solution ;)
[10:48] <bbrazil> morphix: ifup eth1
[10:49] <holycow> you should of told him to just restart x to check
[10:49] <holycow> >_>
[10:49] <morphix> bbrazil, i do that.. dhcpdiscover says it cant find any dhcp leases
[10:49] <ajax4> holycow: True but that is simpler. Takes longer, but simpler.
[10:49] <winman> bbrazil, oh lol, I tried again, and it works now .. thanks :)
[10:50] <J-_> how do i change default program to open up different formats?
[10:50] <bbrazil> morphix: can you run tcpdump from another system?
[10:51] <morphix> bbrazil, erm?
[10:51] <bbrazil> morphix: what other systems do you have?
[10:51] <bbrazil> morphix: that are on the same switch
[10:52] <morphix> well on this machine i have ubuntu & winxp.. but booted into winxp atm
[10:52] <ajax4> J-_:  What is it you are trying to do?
[10:52] <bbrazil> morphix: better go the other route then. ifdown eth1
[10:53] <J-_> when i open up an mp3(double click) it opens up in mplayer
[10:53] <wiking> on volume control i can find my sound device and select it, but i can't hear any sound from computer. (i can hear what i say in mic)
[10:53] <morphix> bbrazil: i have no clue why it isnt working :(
[10:53] <ajax4> J-_: Double in from Nautilus/Desktop?
[10:53] <holycow> J-_, right clik on file, properties, go to open with tab
[10:53] <bbrazil> morphix: if you could go into ubuntu on this system, there's a lot of debugging tools that'll be useful
[10:53] <winman> is there an equilizer available in rhythmbox, the music sounds pretty terrible
[10:54] <J-_> ah ok, makes sense... stupid question i guess... should of researched more -.-
[10:54] <morphix> bbrazil, brb then
[10:54] <NthDegree> winman xmms is older but nicer with those things
[10:55] <NthDegree> xmms also is a little bit like winamp
[10:55] <winman> NthDegree, I agree :)
[10:55] <J-_> yeah i like the skinning future
[10:55] <J-_> :D
[10:55] <winman> NthDegree, I used to use it before, but then thought probably the world has moved on :)
[10:55] <Aviv> hey all
[10:55] <NthDegree> xmms is still what i use on some of the other distros
[10:56] <winman> installing it ...
[10:56] <J-_> i use it cuz it doesn't hog the resources on my pc
[10:56] <root_> Hiya, can anyone tell me where the Xfce user configuration file is so I can change the resolution?
[10:56] <NthDegree> serge why are you logged in as root?
[10:56] <wiking> on volume control i can find my sound device and select it, but i can't hear any sound from computer. (i can hear what i say in mic)
[10:56] <J-_> lol
[10:56] <wiking> can anybody help me???
[10:57] <serge> because my other useraccount resolution is screwed and it's like <---> that big and i cant see anything to click lol
[10:57] <J-_> ...
[10:57] <ajax4> wiking: Won't know til you ask your question
[10:57] <bbrazil> serge: that's an xorg thing. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg
[10:58] <bbrazil> serge: if you just want to decreae resolution, crtl-alt-numpad-
[10:58] <serge> yeah, doesn't work with artl+alt+ "-" "+"
[10:58] <morphix> bbrazil, ok ubuntu now :)
[10:58] <J-_> i've installed codecs for mplayer and it seems that it can't play wma's, any suggestions?
[10:58] <bbrazil> morphix: right, is it a dsl router providing the dhcp?
[10:59] <wiking> on volume control i can find my sound device and select it, but i can't hear any sound from computer. (i can hear what i say in mic)
[10:59] <morphix> bbrazil, yeh
[10:59] <enyc> Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
[10:59] <wiking> ajax4, on volume control i can find my sound device and select it, but i can't hear any sound from computer. (i can hear what i say in mic)
[10:59] <bbrazil> morphix: and the computers are plugged into different ports of it?
[10:59] <morphix> bbrazil, yup
[10:59] <bbrazil> morphix: what's your current ip address?
[11:00] <morphix> ..why would u need that
[11:00] <morphix> 192.168.1.100
[11:00] <ajax4> wiking: What program are you playing sound in?
[11:00] <bbrazil> morphix: because we're going to setup the other one statically
[11:01] <morphix> bbrazil, i already tried.. and i still get no network traffic
[11:01] <wiking> ajax4, cd player
[11:01] <bbrazil> morphix: did lights flash?
[11:01] <nooseisloose> anyone here have a working hostap.conf they'd like to share?
[11:02] <nooseisloose> I have a prism2.5 pci card
[11:02] <morphix> bbrazil, yeh
[11:02] <ajax4> wiking: So you're trying to play an audio CD thru CD Player?
[11:02] <heretician> if i was to install Windows XP on a partitioned drive in my harddrive AFTER ubuntu, would I still be able to use the boot screen that ubuntu has?
[11:02] <nooseisloose> heretician: that's the way I have it at work
[11:02] <bbrazil> morphix: then presumably the hardware works, it must be a config problem somewhere
[11:02] <holycow> heretician, no, you would need to reinstall grub to get ubuntu back
[11:02] <wiking> ajax4, but i can't hear any sound, not just CD
[11:03] <heretician> er whoa
[11:03] <nooseisloose> heretician: oops mybad
[11:03] <bbrazil> morphix: set it up statically again and we'll use tcpdump to see what's happening
[11:03] <ajax4> wiking: You said you could hear what you said in the mic?
[11:03] <heretician> so now that I have ubuntu on my pc and ONLY ubuntu, i cant install WXP without having to reinstall ubuntu for ubuntu to work?
[11:04] <heretician> nothing other than GRUB i could use that would recognize it?
[11:04] <wiking> ajax4, yes
[11:04] <holycow> heretician, you don't haveto reinstall ubuntu, just grub
[11:04] <ajax4> heretician: Its much easier if you install Windows first. Plus Windows XP wouldn't install for me unless it was in the first parition.
[11:04] <edgy> Hi, can any one recommend a commercial email hosting service? better to be related/supporter to open source.
[11:04] <holycow> heretician, technically you should have xp on first, then just drop ubuntu cd in and it will help you setup dual boot properly
[11:04] <morphix> heretician, just have to reinstall grub. because win xp will overwrite the MBR.. which contains grub
[11:04] <ajax4> wiking: Do you have a digital sound cable connecting your cd-rom drive to your soundcard/motherboard?
[11:05] <holycow> heretician, microsoft is of the opinion that only windows is a valid os, thus they really aren't too happy to make your life easy
[11:05] <heretician> so many replies
[11:05] <mikeymike-linux> ubuntu is awesome
[11:05] <heretician> yesh it is
[11:05] <holycow> heretician, that is to say, complain to bill gates, this has nothing to do with ubuntu or linux :)
[11:05] <ajax4> mikeymike-linux: I agree.
[11:05] <mikeymike-linux> you know what the last time i used linux for a long period of time was slackware 8
[11:05] <heretician> holycow, ill call him up right now infact
[11:05] <mikeymike-linux> it was a HUGE adjustment for me coming to ubuntu
[11:05] <mikeymike-linux> but i think i like it
[11:05] <holycow> heretician, cool, tell him i said hi
[11:06] <morphix> bbrazil, erm.. can u tell me what i need to do for tcp because the machine is on the other side of the house.. so i can keep coming back here.
[11:06] <J-_> i like the audio recording approach in teh near future for linux =D
[11:06] <heretician> you and him good friends too?
[11:06] <morphix> tcpdump**
[11:06] <ajax4> heretician: Seriously, I doubt Windows will even install unless its onto the very first partition on the drive.
[11:06] <heretician> Shucks
[11:06] <heretician> has anyone tested this?
[11:06] <mikechml> ajax4: it did for me on my laptop
[11:06] <bbrazil> morphix: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.101 netmask 255.255.255.255 up
[11:06] <heretician> theres one!
[11:06] <holycow> mikeymike-linux, yeah, the huge adjustment to freedom is jarring sometimes ... most people think they just want to be simple consumers but once they realize they can actually expand their skills and learn to do more with a sytem they just don't look back
[11:06] <bbrazil> morphix: syntax might be a tad off
[11:06] <morphix> bbrazil, i know how to static assign.. i mean what i need to do with tcpdump
[11:06] <mikeymike-linux> holycow, im loving the packaging
[11:07] <bbrazil> morphix: oh, tcpdump -i eth1
[11:07] <morphix> bbrazil, because i dont want to have to run back and forth between here and there
[11:07] <mikeymike-linux> i didnt have any kind of packaging in slackware.. dependencies were hell
[11:07] <morphix> ok.
[11:07] <ajax4> mikechml: I could not get either XP or 2000 to install unless they were the very first partition. The Windows installer refused. YMMV of course.
[11:07] <bbrazil> morphix: and get it to try pinging the router and the pc
[11:07] <heretician> holycow, thats exactly how it went for me
[11:07] <J-_> suse packaging sucks compared to ubuntu
[11:07] <holycow> heretician, stop asking about testing.  the answer is windows wants to be on the first partition and there is nothing you can do about it.  second microsoft doesn't recognize any other os and won't make your life easy ... so work around the bozos if you want to keep on using their dippy product :)
[11:08] <heretician> holycow: only asked once? :/
[11:08] <ajax4> mikeymike-linux: I came from Mandrake/Mandriva...will never go back :)
[11:08] <holycow> :) a ya, didn't mean to sound like a jerk :)
[11:08] <mikeymike-linux> ajax4, oh you know what i love mandrake
[11:08] <heretician> np hehe
[11:08] <holycow> hehe that came off wrong, sorry :)
[11:08] <mikechml> i installed windows on the 4th partition :/
[11:08] <mikeymike-linux> mandrake was probably the most impressionable on me.. they really had their shit together in my opinion
[11:08] <ajax4> mikechml: What version?
[11:08] <mikeymike-linux> i really dug the import windows fonts
[11:08] <mikeymike-linux> can you do that in ubuntu?
[11:08] <ajax4> mikeymike-linux: really HAD it together...past tense.
[11:08] <mikeymike-linux> right
[11:08] <mikeymike-linux> now its just crap
[11:08] <mikeymike-linux> :(
[11:09] <holycow> !fonts
[11:09] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[11:09] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[11:09] <mikeymike-linux> im saddened to see all these different distros leave man
[11:09] <mikeymike-linux> Red Hat was king
[11:09] <heretician> holycow, well in that case, i'll have to reinstall ubuntu -- i have to keep using their dippy product because the only thing dippy about linux is that it doesn't run what is 50% of my time on the internet, gaming.
[11:09] <heretician> !life
[11:09] <mikeymike-linux> Mandrake had a GREAT hold on the market
[11:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about life - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:09] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: some distros leave? where?
[11:09] <heretician> ^ hehe
[11:09] <holycow> heretician, hey all cool :)
[11:09] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, lol well you know.. kinda fall outa the loop
[11:09] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: but that's great
[11:09] <mikeymike-linux> is it?
[11:09] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: yes
[11:10] <holycow> none of the distros before debian did it right imho
[11:10] <mikeymike-linux> enlighten me
[11:10] <mikeymike-linux> i never used debian
[11:10] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: consistency
[11:10] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, ah yes.. consistency.. the bane of linux existance.haha
[11:10] <holycow> debian did it right, ubuntu is just polishing up debian every 6 months for the desktop experience
[11:10] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: the more people do thing A, the more variations how it's done (wrong or right or ugly)
[11:10] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: you laugh, but this is a very important thing
[11:10] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, very true.. good point my friend
[11:10] <Sionide> urgh.. a samba update just broke my synaptic.. anyone know anything about this?
[11:10] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, oh no i agree with you.. consistency is a big issue with linux
[11:11] <TARZEAU> holycow: debian is still doing alot of things not right
[11:11] <holycow> TARZEAU, for example?
[11:11] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: not just with linux, but more generally with free software
[11:11] <mikeymike-linux> open source in general
[11:11] <TARZEAU> holycow: update-grub is a fucktard, kernels are crap
[11:11] <TARZEAU> holycow: policy for kernels sucks
[11:11] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: no, free software
[11:11] <holycow> i disagree
[11:11] <mikeymike-linux> im amazed at the kernel releases now
[11:11] <holycow> i like debian kernel, i don't see a problem with grub
[11:11] <mikeymike-linux> its like every few days
[11:11] <holycow> and i don't see a problem with consistency really
[11:12] <mikeymike-linux> i wont lie.. i truly miss slackware... times were simpler then........
[11:12] <TARZEAU> holycow: update-grub is a piece of shit (the script)
[11:12] <TARZEAU> holycow: tried setting a password (locks)?
[11:12] <holycow> people that have a problem with consistency really want a mac, not a free os imho
[11:12] <TARZEAU> holycow: or having bsd partitions?
[11:12] <TARZEAU> holycow: or used d-i with nextstep paritionts?
[11:12] <mikeymike-linux> holycow, i just bought a mac :)
[11:12] <mikeymike-linux> mac mini intel solo core
[11:12] <nooseisloose> has a mac
[11:12] <mikeymike-linux> wireless kb and mouse (bluetooth)
[11:12] <TARZEAU> holycow: debian support of hardware is very bad
[11:12] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, how do you like it? what can i expect from it?
[11:13] <holycow> TARZEAU, 1. update-grub ... okay so what, lots of free software sucks, so whats your point?
[11:13] <mikeymike-linux> this is my very first mac.
[11:13] <TARZEAU> holycow: i backport libsane, i backport kernels, i import intel.com drivers into current latest kernels
[11:13] <ajax4> Yeah there's inconsistencies but its getting better all the time. Lots of inconsistencies with the different versions of Windows over the years too.
[11:13] <holycow> 2. d-i, no not used next step, never needed to, if it sucks i'll hire someone to fix it
[11:13] <TARZEAU> holycow: that alot of software is not tested well, nor being fixed for issues that are reported
[11:13] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, what does that mean you backport all those things?
[11:13] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: yes, we run 150 workstations
[11:13] <holycow> 2. debian support for hardware? yhour joking? best support of most distros bar none
[11:13] <Lynoure> TARZEAU: without having corporate money to throw at it, and without companies releasing specs, not much can be done about the hw support.
[11:13] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: with debian. and we have hardware, 20 machines of last week
[11:13] <bbrazil> TARZEAU: aren't/weren't you a #debian regular?
[11:13] <holycow> 3. backporting? for real? who does something that insane?
[11:13] <TARZEAU> Lynoure: intel.com drivers work, and they come with full source
[11:13] <mikeymike-linux> what is backporting?
[11:14] <TARZEAU> Lynoure: really THAT is not the point with intel nics
[11:14] <TARZEAU> Lynoure: it's just kernel.org are too slow, so are distributions with kernels
[11:14] <holycow> 4. testing, well you see its a community distro, feel free to chip in or start a company that offers paid support contracts and has staff for testing
[11:14] <ra7eeel> hi there
[11:14] <ra7eeel> any one can help me
[11:14] <TARZEAU> holycow: ? we have scanners that are half a year old, that are not supported since one year in debian stable
[11:14] <ajax4> mikeymike-linux: Backporting = putting changes from newer releases back into older ones.
[11:14] <Lynoure> TARZEAU: So, what's your plan for fixing it?
[11:14] <TARZEAU> Lynoure: we fix it for ourselves.
[11:14] <holycow> TARZEAU, your poitns are completely valid, but ONLY for you ... it's kinda important that you properly qualify your statement
[11:14] <ra7eeel> plz send me private messege
[11:14] <holycow> as probably should i :)
[11:15] <TARZEAU> Lynoure: reporting to the people that can fix it in the real place, they just ignore me
[11:15] <ajax4> ra7eeel: Ask your question in the main channel window.
[11:15] <holycow> TARZEAU, so what?
[11:15] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: mine's an older 68k, love it, for what it does, it just works, first thing I did was put 1G of ram in it, and after that no complaints (keeping in mind that it's basically a laptop)  It's quiet, and just works.  I guess only complaint is the DVD drive sometimes won't read a disc that my sony dvd writer will
[11:15] <mikeymike-linux> ajax4, can you get a little more in detail
[11:15] <TARZEAU> Lynoure: you can't update packages that are maintained by others in debian
[11:15] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, 68k?
[11:15] <TARZEAU> holycow: so linux is a problem, and it's not perfectly suitable for workstations
[11:15] <Lynoure> TARZEAU: So, are you publishing the fixes, too?
[11:15] <holycow> TARZEAU, for you, it is for me
[11:15] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: sorry PPC
[11:15] <TARZEAU> there's another funny inconsistency in uhci/ohci usb drivers
[11:15] <TARZEAU> Lynoure: yes i am
[11:15] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, oh okay power pc
[11:15] <holycow> TARZEAU, it is for about 6 regular users i support from whom i get 0 phone calls
[11:16] <TARZEAU> holycow: that's nice for you
[11:16] <holycow> TARZEAU, and i'm in the process of switching 200 corporate desktops to ubuntu
[11:16] <TARZEAU> holycow: i want to see you with 600 users, and a WIDE variety of hardware
[11:16] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, i hope im not disappointed in this little mac :)
[11:16] <holycow> TARZEAU, no problem at all, infact its a cinch
[11:16] <TARZEAU> holycow: and they need what software? our installs have 14 GB software
[11:16] <holycow> TARZEAU, infact i don't even haveto test, i install on hd, send hd's out
[11:16] <holycow> its that simple
[11:16] <TARZEAU> holycow: so you just sell hardware, and don't support software
[11:16] <TARZEAU> holycow: that's completely a different thing
[11:16] <holycow> no, support software, train users
[11:16] <holycow> not at all
[11:17] <J-_> are SoC projects/updates finished yet?
[11:17] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: I like it because it is small and quiet, and goes well with my Klipsch Cornwalls, and 100W JVC
[11:17] <TARZEAU> holycow: i wonder for how long they'll be using free software
[11:17] <holycow> you have an opinion that is simply only valid for you, just qualify it as that
[11:17] <ZorK> I need help installing ubuntu, if anyone is up for it ..
[11:17] <TARZEAU> openoffice is another big issue
[11:17] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, is this a mac mini we're talking about or a laptop?
[11:17] <mikeymike-linux> or what?
[11:17] <holycow> TARZEAU, process is alread going for 2 years, great success for us
[11:17] <holycow> infact
[11:17] <TARZEAU> k3b autoconfiguration
[11:17] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: but I even played Warcraft on it for about a year, PVP was a blit slow in big raids the mac mini
[11:17] <holycow> openoffice is one of the big successes, it has saved us a lot of problems on super large documents
[11:18] <TARZEAU> holycow: nice to hear. it's not like we are not successfull, we are, but still many problems can't be fixed by system admins/software experts
[11:18] <TARZEAU> holycow: 1 or 2?
[11:18] <ZorK> Can anyone help me please? please PM me
[11:18] <ajax4> mikeymike-linux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backporting
[11:18] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, ah okay...
[11:18] <holycow> TARZEAU, 2
[11:18] <mikeymike-linux> ajax4, thanks i will read that
[11:18] <ajax4> ZorK: Ask your question in main channel.
[11:18] <TARZEAU> holycow: you don't use NFS i guess
[11:18] <bbrazil> ZorK: just ask your question
[11:18] <TARZEAU> holycow: they've got some broken lock handling
[11:18] <ra7eeel> hay friends. i am new to linux environment, need your help and support
[11:18] <holycow> TARZEAU, no, why would i using something like that?
[11:18] <J-_> abiword is a good word processor =D
[11:18] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: I was comparing it's hardware is roughly == a laptops specs, at the time
[11:18] <ajax4> ra7eeel: What is your question?
[11:18] <TARZEAU> holycow: oh well, no comment here
[11:18] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, gotcha
[11:18] <TARZEAU> and cups gnome browsing is one issue too
[11:19] <holycow> nfs isn't really designed for our company, we are very highly geographically distributed
[11:19] <TARZEAU> holycow: you've got printers?
[11:19] <Sionide> see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214848 to fix recent samba update issues
[11:19] <holycow> yep
[11:19] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, this intel core is supposed to be like 40% faster than your g4 mini right?
[11:19] <mikeymike-linux> solo
[11:19] <holycow> no problem there either, all hp
[11:19] <TARZEAU> holycow: more than one city?
[11:19] <holycow> scanners, no prob
[11:19] <ra7eeel> any one can give me an advise ??
[11:19] <holycow> more than one city?
[11:19] <holycow> 70 cities
[11:19] <TARZEAU> holycow: i see
[11:19] <holycow> errr 70 offices
[11:19] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: I never believe that crap, until I see it
[11:19] <ra7eeel> oka
[11:19] <TARZEAU> holycow: we're distributed too, in one city, and workers worldwide
[11:19] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, supposedly it is better though?
[11:19] <holycow> more like 45 cities or so
[11:19] <ra7eeel> ajax4
[11:19] <TARZEAU> holycow: afs for worldwide and ssh
[11:19] <TARZEAU> holycow: nfs for the same city
[11:19] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, i can also install windows on it if i wanted to :0
[11:19] <ra7eeel> listen my friend
[11:20] <J-_> SoC projects/updates finsihed for the year?
[11:20] <TARZEAU> holycow: i miss OPENSTEP
[11:20] <mikeymike-linux> i kinda want to install windows on my mini .. that would be cool
[11:20] <holycow> TARZEAU, i'm not happy with either of those options, i'm looking at ifolder a little more closely for the next stage
[11:20] <ra7eeel> i want to migrate from windows environment
[11:20] <ra7eeel> to linux
[11:20] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, have you ever used a NEXT computer?
[11:20] <TARZEAU> holycow: it's not like i'm happy with afs etc either ;)
[11:20] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: yes, i still do
[11:20] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: have you?
[11:20] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, how is it? i want to use one
[11:20] <mgs2980> ra7 linux is ok but has its downfals:P
[11:20] <ra7eeel> and i am very confused ....... there is alot of distro in linux...
[11:20] <mikeymike-linux> never in my life have i
[11:20] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: it's fantastic
[11:20] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: not even osx beats it, if you ask me
[11:20] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: I am over windows, not gonna bash, but I am so over it
[11:20] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, can i ahve yours? :)
[11:21] <ZorK> well.. I've downloaded Ubuntu Live CD, and now I run it, and I clicked the install thingy on the desktop .. I filled in the 4 parts, but the 6th, the one where you need to prepare mount points, is going wrong for me .. I have 6  harddiscs, I got a new one, with 15gb to install Ubunto on. It finds them all. But if i just choose / for the 15gb hdd, it says that it needs the mount points for the other harddrives .. but i dont want ubuntu to touch the
[11:21] <ra7eeel> and i really dont know anything abut the new O.S
[11:21] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: you can find openstep iso images that work on i386/sparc hardware
[11:21] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, im way too dependant on windows still....... i play games like CounterStrike Source
[11:21] <holycow> TARZEAU, our approach is a distributed botnet ... long term anyway, short term we hack in solutions as we bring ubuntu to the desktop
[11:21] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: that should be no problem to install on. look for version 4.2
[11:21] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: or check out gnustep
[11:21] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, this would be almost exactly the same as NEXT?
[11:21] <mgs2980> im using ubuntu atm ve found sertain bugs with it but its ok for a back up when windows screws over :P
[11:21] <dbe> ra7eeel, It's GNU/Linux distributions not Linux distributions
[11:21] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: OPENSTEP IS software from NeXT
[11:21] <ajax4> dbe: Don't be pedantic
[11:21] <ic56> ta7eeel: Ubuntu is a good choice for a Linux novie looking for a GUI desktop system on reasonably (P-III or better) hardware
[11:22] <dbe> ajax4, I'm not.
[11:22] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: gnustep is NOT exactly as NeXT, but it's a clone, and it's getting better
[11:22] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, nice... its installation is similar to unix/linux?
[11:22] <ic56> ra7eeel: Ubuntu is a good choice for a Linux novie looking for a GUI desktop system on reasonably (P-III or better) hardware
[11:22] <lani> Hi, I hope someone can help me: I'm running ubuntu on my laptop right now (Dapper), but I'd like to do a clean install of Dapper from scratch. I've got a liveCD, but it won't boot off it on startup just goes on to load my current install. Can you help?
[11:22] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, are you referring to windowmaker?
[11:22] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: development wise, yes there's several project that have been ported to GNUstep
[11:22] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: no windowmaker is just the same look
[11:22] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: with some inconsistencies and bugs
[11:22] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: i'm talking TimeMon.app for example
[11:22] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, hmm
[11:22] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: TextEdit.app
[11:22] <mikeymike-linux> i would like to check that out
[11:22] <mikeymike-linux> i've always wanted to use a NEXT box
[11:22] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: go ahead do it
[11:23] <nooseisloose> lani: is your bios set to boot from CD?
[11:23] <mikeymike-linux> :) i think i will
[11:23] <mikeymike-linux> 4.2 eh?
[11:23] <ZorK> Could anyone help me?
[11:23] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: yeah, the mirrors i had, went offline
[11:23] <mikeymike-linux> it installs similar to linux?
[11:23] <lani> nooseisloose: I can't figure out how to get into BIOS
[11:23] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: no the install is much better
[11:23] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: more like mac os x install
[11:23] <ic56> ZorK: ask your question
[11:23] <ZorK> well.. I've downloaded Ubuntu Live CD, and now I run it, and I clicked the install thingy on the desktop .. I filled in the 4 parts, but the 6th, the one where you need to prepare mount points, is going wrong for me .. I have 6  harddiscs, I got a new one, with 15gb to install Ubunto on. It finds them all. But if i just choose / for the 15gb hdd, it says that it needs the mount points for the other harddrives .. but i dont want ubuntu to touch the
[11:23] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: there's a few tricks you need to know, and floppies for i386
[11:23] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, never installed mac osx before :( however i imagine it to be easy
[11:23] <ra7eeel> can we talk in private IC56
[11:23] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: there's two iso images (all fat binaries)
[11:23] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: check out the next step steve jobs video (google)
[11:23] <ra7eeel> if you dont mind ??
[11:23] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, okay
[11:23] <lani> nooseisloose: it's a laptop and it doesn't give me an option to go into bios
[11:23] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: feel free to ask me when you got the iso images
[11:23] <dbe> ra7eeel, I can aswer many of your questions.
[11:24] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, so once i get these iso's i'll have to put them on floppies?
[11:24] <nooseisloose> lani: what kind of laptop?
[11:24] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: no
[11:24] <ra7eeel> DBE
[11:24] <holycow> i never really got the whole 'consistency' argument ever.  there is no such thing as consistency, software isn't a product its a process
[11:24] <poje> Okay, after using ndiswrapper to install the drivers for my wifi card but scanning is still turning up jack
[11:24] <ra7eeel> thank you
[11:24] <poje> -but
[11:24] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: if you want to install it on a i386 computer, you need two floppy boot+driver images that i can give you
[11:24] <lani> nooseisloose: Asus z33a with Intel processort
[11:24] <holycow> there are degrees towards whatever nazi like system might be called consistency
[11:24] <ra7eeel> but could you plz talk in private
[11:24] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: for sparc,hppa,m68k they can boot from cd
[11:24] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, ah ok
[11:24] <holycow> i really like linux and its freewheeling ways ... lets lots of ideas be tested
[11:24] <nooseisloose> lani: give me a few sec, I don't have one here
[11:24] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: bear in mind, this is software from 1989-1994
[11:24] <mikeymike-linux> i386 = any intel up to current?
[11:25] <TARZEAU> there were also openstep ports for on solaris and windows nt/2k/xp
[11:25] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: no, the drivers don't work for after p3/p4
[11:25] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, so i need an old box lol to install this on... haha
[11:25] <mikeymike-linux> oh wait i gave that away
[11:25] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: yes and it'll run MUCH better than linux on a computer with 32mb memory
[11:25] <mikeymike-linux> :-P
[11:25] <holycow> i personally wanna find an ancient lisp box to play with, just for th ehell of it
[11:25] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: it's got a mach microkernel and display postscript
[11:25] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, nice
[11:26] <mikeymike-linux> for early 90's thats pretty good
[11:26] <TARZEAU> you can get some old sparc hardware maybe?
[11:26] <mikeymike-linux> late 80's
[11:26] <mikeymike-linux> you know what
[11:26] <holycow> mikeymike-linux, hehehe, its probably a better idea to take tarzeaus opinion with a grain of salt.  its not wrong but its not exactly right either
[11:26] <holycow> :)
[11:26] <mikeymike-linux> another peculiar system that interests me are the SGI's
[11:26] <mikeymike-linux> my first and only encounter was a Indigo 2
[11:26] <poje> How can I disable the acx driver that's going by default?
[11:26] <mikeymike-linux> holycow, :)
[11:26] <ZorK> well.. I've downloaded Ubuntu Live CD, and now I run it, and I clicked the install thingy on the desktop .. I filled in the 4 parts, but the 6th, the one where you need to prepare mount points, is going wrong for me .. I have 6  harddiscs, I got a new one, with 15gb to install Ubunto on. It finds them all. But if i just choose / for the 15gb hdd, it says that it needs the mount points for the other harddrives .. but i dont want ubuntu to touch the
[11:26] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: i've got a few sgi's here, you can have one (europe/switzerland)
[11:27] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, ??
[11:27] <TARZEAU> if you want to try sgi+irix
[11:27] <mikeymike-linux> im not sure i udnerstand what u mean i can have one europe switzerland?
[11:27] <TARZEAU> i don't like them
[11:27] <TARZEAU> you can have a box
[11:27] <mikeymike-linux> what boxes are they?
[11:27] <mikeymike-linux> oh ur in SWITZERLAND
[11:27] <mikeymike-linux> i get it
[11:27] <NthDegree> ZorK you tell it not to touch the other hard drives and their partitions specifically
[11:27] <TARZEAU> i've also got sparc,alpha,hppa and powerpc
[11:27] <holycow> tarsier, l33t
[11:27] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, indigo's?/2?
[11:27] <NthDegree> you must explicitly tell the installer
[11:27] <holycow> TARZEAU, even
[11:27] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: mips o2 r10k and iris indigo
[11:27] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, what was the SGI with the case that opens in the front a black case
[11:28] <mikeymike-linux> a door on the front
[11:28] <mikeymike-linux> basically
[11:28] <mikeymike-linux> it was superior to the indigo 2
[11:28] <ZorK> Can anyone, who have spare time, PM me please. I need help!
[11:28] <holycow> TARZEAU, those alphas back in the day were wicked
[11:28] <TARZEAU> holycow: at least they were 64bit since ever
[11:28] <TARZEAU> holycow: as like mips
[11:28] <ajax4> ZorK: I am
[11:28] <holycow> back when everyone was 16 bit too
[11:28] <ic56> ZorK: if you don't supply mountpoints for the other drives, then Ubuntu won't be able to *see* them.  Specifying the mountpoints won't cause Ubuntu to touch the drives -- only to configure itself so you can see the drives from within Ubuntu (thus giving you the option to read files from them)
[11:28] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, can i have the o2 :)
[11:29] <holycow> just turning 32 bit
[11:29] <TARZEAU> holycow: not that 16 bit was bad. amiga was fantastic too
[11:29] <holycow> TARZEAU, ah now i see where you are coming from, lol that makes sense :)
[11:29] <holycow> yes indeed
[11:29] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: hehe no i'm hoping for it to run linux on the local hd (incld. booting) one day
[11:29] <TARZEAU> holycow: hm? from where?
[11:29] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, besides the o2 you have an indigo and what else?
[11:29] <nooseisloose> lani: did you ever get to see the bios version as it went by?
[11:29] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: these two. and a bunch of sparc pizza boxen
[11:30] <ZorK> ic56: So what should i call them? swap, /, /home, /boot, /usr, /var ?
[11:30] <mikeymike-linux> haha
[11:30] <holycow> TARZEAU, well i'm thinking that as an amiga user you have a certain perspective onthings :)
[11:30] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: and a bunch of compaq desktops that can run OPENSTEP
[11:30] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, find me an indigo2
[11:30] <mikeymike-linux> :)
[11:30] <TARZEAU> holycow: sure ;)
[11:30] <mikeymike-linux> and that mysterious black SGI with the door front that opens up
[11:30] <mikeymike-linux> i was really young
[11:30] <mikeymike-linux> when i encountered these
[11:30] <ra7eeel> so , how could i replace the windows 2003 with all the services on it and go to ubuntu ?
[11:30] <mikeymike-linux> in a room there was an indigo 2 and that black sgi box
[11:30] <ra7eeel> and is this distro is the best ?
[11:30] <mikeymike-linux> they were netowrked and playing doom 2 lol
[11:30] <morphix> bbrazil, i did tcpdump.. didnt tell anything unusual for pings
[11:31] <NthDegree> ZorK you mount drives you DONT want it to touch under things like /mnt/personal or /mnt/borkeddisk1
[11:31] <morphix> bbrazil, i still cant get an IP tho :(
[11:31] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: how about two indigo ones?
[11:31] <lani> nooseisloose: I don't think I saw it though I might have missed it, I can check if it's important
[11:31] <holycow> ra7eeel, the answer to that question is probably not best answered here, it requires a good amount of system and needs analysis to properly answer
[11:31] <ra7eeel> what about the business environment ?
[11:31] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, you have?
[11:31] <orangos> hello...can anyone help with a USB wireless problem please?
[11:31] <TARZEAU> http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/images/img/img0040.gif
[11:31] <ic56> ZorK: /home /boot /var and those others are filesystems that are *used* by Ubuntu (though you've chosen to have all of Ubuntu as a single filesystem, so these will be ordinary directories rather tahn separate filesystems)
[11:31] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: yes
[11:31] <TARZEAU> these sgi are fun....
[11:31] <bbrazil> morphix: run 'arp' on the current system. Does it show anything for the other?
[11:31] <TARZEAU> with rear-warming seats
[11:31] <dbe> ra7eeel, It's even better in GNOME.
[11:31] <ra7eeel> holycow
[11:31] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, those look like the towers from ANTI-TRUST
[11:31] <mikeymike-linux> have you seen that movie?
[11:31] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[11:31] <ra7eeel> plz advise
[11:31] <ra7eeel> and give me a hint
[11:31] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: not the movie, but i've sat on such sgi boxes
[11:31] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, you want to give them away to me ? :)
[11:32] <ra7eeel> where from i must start
[11:32] <ra7eeel> ?
[11:32] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, what are those anyway?
[11:32] <dbe> ra7eeel, Did you see that I just sended you a PM?
[11:32] <ra7eeel> i am very confused ?
[11:32] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: computers?
[11:32] <holycow> ra7eeel, there really is no 'best' distro, there is however research, your needs, the skills in  your organization, future planning and provisioning to take into account ....
[11:32] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, lol yes what are they?
[11:32] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: how far will I have to ship em?
[11:32] <ra7eeel> no sorry i didnt see
[11:32] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: sgi
[11:32] <ajax4> ZorK: I have been PMing you
[11:32] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, where do you live?
[11:32] <Lynoure> ra7eeel: Just try one, and see what you think
[11:32] <holycow> ra7eeel, well you first start with a) why are you running win2k3
[11:32] <mikeymike-linux> TARZEAU, i gather they were SGI
[11:32] <ZorK> ic56: Yes, but if i dont have anything in the checkbox, and just choose / with the 15gb, it says: "No mount point selected for ....." <- and then come all the drives
[11:32] <holycow> then b) what services it is offering your clients
[11:32] <lani> nooseisloose: I installed ubuntu straight away when I bought the computer and it had no trouble booting off cd then
[11:32] <holycow> c) what are your future it plans roughly
[11:33] <holycow> d) then you map those needs onto linux and work the solution backwards to the software
[11:33] <ic56> ZorK: NthDegree's advice to you also applies.
[11:33] <holycow> that will give you a rought idea
[11:33] <holycow> BUT
[11:33] <nooseisloose> lani: oh so you have got it to boot from CD?
[11:33] <mikeymike-linux> SGI has the neatest logo
[11:33] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[11:33] <ra7eeel> oka i an runnung win2003 coz i have knowledge in this field
[11:33] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: i like NeXT one better
[11:33] <nooseisloose> lani: have you made sure you have a good boot cd?
[11:33] <TARZEAU> mikeymike-linux: and amiga one too
[11:33] <mikeymike-linux> NEXT is cool too
[11:33] <ra7eeel> i can handel problem
[11:33] <lani> nooseisloose: when I installed OS originally
[11:33] <holycow> ideally you want to have the skills to do this, or if you are using this to gain the analytical skills prepare to invest time to upgrade your skills
[11:33] <mikeymike-linux> SGI is much more clean to me though...
[11:33] <mikeymike-linux> no words.. no letters.. just a shape
[11:34] <nooseisloose> lani: do you still have that cd?
[11:34] <ra7eeel> build network services  from scratch
[11:34] <ra7eeel> this is why
[11:34] <mikeymike-linux> thank god for SGI we have one thing good from them....... OPEN GL
[11:34] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[11:34] <lani> nooseisloose: It seems ok, when I login it mounts automatically and asks me if I want to run package manager
[11:34] <vaka> I get the error "Gdk-CRITICAL **:gdk_window_show: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed" when I run my ruby script using the GTK
[11:34] <holycow> ra7eeel, generally speaking all linuxes are the same because basically all packages are available on all distros
[11:34] <ic56> ZorK: you need to specify a mountpoint that *isn't* in the menu -- just type it in.  A good choice is things like: /media/music-drive or /media/drive1
[11:34] <lani> nooseisloose: hmm, now that I think of it, I might, I'll go try boot off it
[11:34] <nooseisloose> lani: so what's the problem?
[11:35] <dbe> ra7eeel, Define `best'? Freedom? That it is technical superior?
[11:35] <holycow> ra7eeel, whether or not ubuntu or debian or redhat or suse or whatever is right for your needs requires quite a bit of research
[11:35] <lani> nooseisloose: I want a fresh system install
[11:35] <mikeymike-linux> isn't it wild that SGI purchased cray...
[11:35] <lani> nooseisloose: instead it boots into current installation and offers to run package manager
[11:35] <holycow> there is too much to consider for a simple answer, i think the steps i gave you will point to the rest of the steps you need to take to find a satisfactory solution
[11:35] <ZorK> back
[11:36] <nooseisloose> lani: ok, lets please make sure the thing boots to a known good boot cd, even a windows one
[11:36] <ic56> ra7eel: which network services do you need anyway?
[11:36] <ZorK> PM me againg
[11:36] <dbe> ra7eeel, http://sovix.org/dbe/comparsion_of_free_software_operating_systems might give you a hit.
[11:36] <holycow> ra7eeel, i will only offer one guiding idea:  software is not a product it is a process.  never expect a solution, only expect a step in th eprocess of finding a better solution
[11:36] <mikeymike-linux> hey nooseisloose you never told me where doy ou live? united states?
[11:36] <mikeymike-linux> i'm in the U.S.
[11:36] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: SGI have the best looking cases
[11:36] <mikeymike-linux> southern
[11:36] <nooseisloose> Texas
[11:36] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, yes they do
[11:36] <a2xm> hi, can someone help me with fstab?
[11:36] <mikeymike-linux> wow texas eh?
[11:36] <mikeymike-linux> i am in Louisiana :)
[11:36] <mikeymike-linux> hello neighbor
[11:36] <mikeymike-linux> :D
[11:36] <lani> nooseisloose: be back in a few
[11:36] <ajax4> a2xm: Whats your fstab question?
[11:36] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: howdy neighbor,
[11:36] <ra7eeel> holycow> what i need to replace for example the mail server ??
[11:36] <R1cky> what's up?
[11:36] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, DFW area?
[11:37] <mikeymike-linux> harris county?
[11:37] <nooseisloose> everyone else: I will shoot you in  the face
[11:37] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[11:37] <nooseisloose> Houston
[11:37] <ra7eeel> and what is the first step should i do
[11:37] <ra7eeel> ??
[11:37] <holycow> ra7eeel, lots of options, you can check out zimbra, openxchange, tons and tons of projects out there
[11:37] <vaka> I get the error "Gdk-CRITICAL **:gdk_window_show: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed" when I run my ruby that uses GTK, how can I fix it?
[11:37] <mikeymike-linux> oh now what are the chances of you being in houston.......
[11:37] <mikeymike-linux> thats great!
[11:37] <R1cky> houstin we have a problem
[11:37] <mikeymike-linux> i live in southwest louisiana
[11:37] <mikeymike-linux> near lake charles
[11:37] <mikeymike-linux> :)
[11:37] <mikeymike-linux> how sweet is that
[11:37] <mikeymike-linux> haha
[11:37] <holycow> ra7eeel, you can build your own smtp/imap solution from scratch and each of those has dozens of options
[11:37] <a2xm> ajax4: my dvdrom can't auto mount like in 5.10
[11:37] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: come and get em, I don't know if the boot, havent tried in years
[11:37] <holycow> ra7eeel, you can setup your own frontend for your own smtp/imap solution as well ...
[11:38] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, are they indigo? or indigo2's?
[11:38] <a2xm> ajax4: also my others partisions
[11:38] <nooseisloose> Indigo
[11:38] <mikeymike-linux> do you know the difference between the 2 because i surely dont
[11:38] <a2xm> ajax4: before when using 5.10 was no problems
[11:38] <ajax4> a2xm: Put a copy of your fstab on pastebin and give the URL
[11:38] <ajax4> !pastebin
[11:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:38] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: yeah one sec
[11:39] <holycow> ra7eeel, sorry that i cant give you 1 solution, this is i.t. ... processes do not easily lend them selves to single solution products, you need to think about building modular systems that you can grow as your needs grow
[11:39] <ic56> ra7eeel: are you looking for a free OS to run on your server or one to use as your desktop?  You don't need the overhead of a GUI to run a mail server.
[11:39] <a2xm> ajax4: ok, just seconds
[11:39] <vaka> how can I set the screen for GtkWindow in a Ruby script?
[11:39] <ZorK> ic56
[11:39] <holycow> vaka, #ruby should know
[11:39] <ic56> Yes, ZorK?
[11:39] <ZorK> did you answer to my pm?
[11:39] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: Indy 2 were ugly green and lay on their side, but were awesome back in the day Indigo are short and fat, and stand up
[11:40] <nooseisloose> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=sgi%20indigo&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
[11:40] <ra7eeel> my friends why you treat me like an expert with linux ?? i never used it befor
[11:40] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, oh ok
[11:40] <mikeymike-linux> ah okay
[11:40] <ic56> ZorK: I thought I did.  Which PM?
[11:40] <ZorK> ic56: because i think i can recieve :/
[11:40] <mikeymike-linux> the one i recall was a teal colored skinny workstation that stood on its side
 NthDegree's advice to you also applies.
 can you copy it in?
 u there?
 i did it all now, entered the drives manually ..
[11:40] <holycow> ra7eeel, i'm not treating you like an expert, your asking a specific question, i'm telling you you are asking the wrong question and giving you a process to find your answer
[11:40] <nooseisloose> Don't DONT buy an O2 unless you find onet someone got them working
[11:40] <mikeymike-linux> and i dont know what the other one was.. but it had a door for the front of the case
[11:41] <mikeymike-linux> and it was dark
[11:41] <mikeymike-linux> almost black maybe
[11:41] <holycow> ra7eeel, i would recommend perhaps writing down the steps i gave you and starting with google?
[11:41] <holycow> i.t. is a big world
[11:41] <mikeymike-linux> as a joke someone put the HAL 9000 RED EYE on the door
[11:41] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[11:41] <mikeymike-linux> it was cool
[11:41] <nooseisloose> mine are dark blue
[11:41] <ra7eeel> oka dear holycow
[11:41] <holycow> :)
[11:41] <a2xm> ajax4: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18061
[11:41] <ra7eeel> what is the right questions for a beginner
[11:41] <ra7eeel> :)
[11:41] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, http://retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/indigo2.jpg thats the one
[11:41] <nooseisloose> ha ha at hal,  some indy 2 were purple too
[11:41] <dbe> ra7eeel, What do you want to do?
[11:41] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, that is the one i first ever encountered
[11:41] <a2xm> ajax4: it seems there's a connection with mtab too eh?
[11:41] <ra7eeel> oka
[11:41] <mikeymike-linux> first and last actually..........
[11:42] <ic56> ZorK: NthDegree's advice was: <NthDegree> ZorK you mount drives you DONT want it to touch under things like   /mnt/personal or /mnt/borkeddisk1
[11:42] <mikeymike-linux> what i wouldn't give to go back in time
[11:42] <holycow> ra7eeel, never mind the question any more, you asked it, i gave you the way ... now go and google :)
[11:42] <mikeymike-linux> i was like maybe 15 then
[11:42] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: yeah r10000 I think
[11:42] <ra7eeel> all i am dearm with , migrat the existing services with linux service
[11:42] <ZorK> ic56: So i make it up, with the drives that it shouldnt touch .. i just write something, like /windows-drive  ??
[11:42] <holycow> right, i told you how to figure that out
[11:42] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, woah i think you're right
[11:43] <mikeymike-linux> r1000 looks like it
[11:43] <a2xm> ajax4: i'll give u the mtab too
[11:43] <mikeymike-linux> are those good boxes?
[11:43] <ra7eeel> like change domino mail server to qmail,postfix ,....
[11:43] <nooseisloose> they were
[11:43] <vaka> how can I set the screen for GtkWindow in a Ruby script that uses GTK?
[11:43] <mikeymike-linux> i got to play doom2 on one with the indigo 2
[11:43] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[11:43] <dbe> ra7eeel, Which softwares are you using in Windows?
[11:43] <ra7eeel> i have no firewall
[11:43] <a2xm> ajax4: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18062
[11:43] <holycow> ra7eeel, domino is also an ldap server, an application server and many other servers
[11:43] <nooseisloose>  mikeymike-linux: what about bzflag?
[11:43] <ra7eeel> i wanna build a firewall till i get a cisco PIX
[11:43] <mikeymike-linux> haha yes!
[11:43] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, what about that tank game
[11:43] <mikeymike-linux> i forget the name
[11:43] <ic56> ZorK: exactly.  You make up something meaningful to you.  A good choice is /media/windows-drive  That's because things under /media will appear directly under the "computer" menu entry which most people coming from Windows seem to like
[11:43] <holycow> ra7eeel, you cannot just replace domino server, i gave you the steps to research, why arent you googling laredy?
[11:44] <nooseisloose>  mikeymike-linux: BZFLAG!
[11:44] <mikeymike-linux> is that bzflag?
[11:44] <mikeymike-linux> haha
[11:44] <mikeymike-linux> mannnnnnn
[11:44] <ZorK> ic56: Great thanks, now i understand it :D Will see if it works!
[11:44] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: I still play sometiems
[11:44] <ic56> ZorK: yw!
[11:44] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, haha on what
[11:44] <nooseisloose> ubuntu
[11:44] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[11:44] <mikeymike-linux> sweet
[11:44] <dbe> ra7eeel, You mean that you want to set rules for the firewall.
[11:44] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: mac, anything
[11:45] <mikeymike-linux> hey is there a shortcut key to open a new tab in firefox?
[11:45] <mikeymike-linux> like CTRL N or something of that nature
[11:45] <nooseisloose> ctrl T
[11:45] <mikeymike-linux> thanks
[11:45] <mikeymike-linux> wow
[11:45] <mikeymike-linux> you know how long its been since i played bzflag
[11:45] <dbe> ra7eeel, If Ubuntu using iptables I might can help you.
[11:45] <mikeymike-linux> i could NOT remember the name of it
[11:45] <holycow> ra7eeel, if you want a firewall i strongly urge you to actually buy one ... something like astaro is pretty good, lots of debian based ones too
[11:45] <mikeymike-linux> that was over 10 years ago
[11:45] <mikeymike-linux> well maybe almost 10 years
[11:45] <mikeymike-linux> im 24 now
[11:45] <holycow> ra7eeel, building your own firewall to get to something like pix will require millions of dollars and lots an dlots of engineering
[11:46] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: first 3d game multiplayer ever probably
[11:46] <mikeymike-linux> haha
[11:46] <mikeymike-linux> no doubt
[11:46] <mikeymike-linux> doom 2 was more fun on them though
[11:46] <ic56> dbe: you missed teh beginning: ra7eeel doesn't have any Linux installed -- just considering options
[11:46] <dbe> ic56, Ok.
[11:46] <mikeymike-linux> gosh its bringing back memories haha
[11:47] <ompaul> mikeymike-linux, please put all your comments on one line, using the enter key in place of a comma in not good, cheers
[11:47] <ra7eeel> what r this options ?
[11:47] <ajax4> a2xm: Are you having problems with cdrom? Or just the dvdrom?
[11:47] <dbe> ic56, I'm not using Ubuntu, does it use iptables?
[11:47] <a2xm> ajax4: right now is just dvdrom
[11:48] <lani> nooseisloose: it didn't load off this CD either
[11:48] <lani> nooseisloose: and doesn't print any BIOS into
[11:48] <lani> nooseisloose: info*
[11:48] <nitrt> what /dev/xxxx would a usb adsl modem be assigned when plugged in?
[11:48] <ajax4> a2xm: Type this and send me the results in PM: ls -l /dev/hd*
[11:49] <TyeDye> i've installed quake4 and can run the game if I click on the file and tell it to run but I can't run it from the command line,it says bash: quake4: command not found,any ideas why I can't run from terminal??
[11:49] <ic56> dbe: yes, Ubuntu has /sbin/iptables , from which I presume that the rest of the functionality is there.  However, I have not used it -- the ubuntu box doesn't act as my firewall
[11:49] <ompaul>  waky there is a pm there for you cheers (d'oh ;-))
[11:49] <nitrt> hi, id like to know what /dev/xxxx (folder) would a usb adsl modem be assigned when plugged in?
[11:50] <msyg|sleepy> ompaul  and you have the answer
[11:50] <filemover> whats the best irc client for ubuntu Ive just had a look at xchat but is there anything else available
[11:50] <mikeymike-linux> ketsugi, omg that one bites so bad
[11:50] <ketsugi> haha
[11:50] <mikeymike-linux> ketsugi, thats like xchat-lite-for-losers
[11:50] <ketsugi> yeah I know
[11:50] <ketsugi> but it serves my needs
[11:50] <ra7eeel> so...do i have to get a training for linux and get certificate like RHCE to save time ?
[11:50] <poje> Ugh, is there anyone willing to help me with this BS wifi for a second?
[11:50] <filemover> is there anything else
[11:50] <mikeymike-linux> ketsugi, haha
[11:51] <nitrt> hello? you please help me?
[11:51] <holycow> xchat now has hierarchical view, its finally useablefor me :)
[11:51] <nooseisloose> laniL that's strange you could try pushing del esc f5 and so forth during many boots tries, or you could maybe edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make it show you a menu, by making a long timeout, then giving boot options from command line. OR you might try a USB boot
[11:51] <ajax4> nitrt: Ask your question
[11:51] <poje> ketsugi: real men use irssi
[11:51] <mikeymike-linux> holycow, i prefer tabbed any day
[11:51] <nitrt> hi, id like to know what /dev/xxxx (folder) would a usb adsl modem be assigned when plugged in?
[11:51] <filemover> irssi is good if u dont mind the teminal
[11:51] <holycow> mikeymike-linux, *nod*
[11:51] <filemover> terminal
[11:51] <ompaul> !wifi > poje
[11:51] <filemover> but i like pretty colors and being able to change stuff arround
[11:51] <filemover> lol
[11:52] <mikeymike-linux> good reasoning :)
[11:52] <ic56> ra7eeel: training works for some people, learning by doing works better for others.  It all depends on how you prefer to learn
[11:52] <filemover> lol
[11:52] <lani> nooseisloose: I can get into the grub boot menu, what command do I give it to boot off CD?
[11:52] <mikeymike-linux> nothing wrong with liking flash :)
[11:52] <filemover> im a learner
[11:52] <nitrt> hi, id like to know what /dev/xxxx what be assigned to a usb adsl modem when plugged in?
[11:52] <filemover> not a monkey
[11:52] <nitrt> can you help me?
[11:52] <poje> ompaul: I have a netgear card with an acx chipset, I don't know if that will help (I'm trying to get ndiswrapper to work)
[11:52] <ajax4> exit
[11:52] <ic56> ra7eeel: Most people in the unix/linux world, learn the craft by reading the documentation.
[11:53] <nooseisloose> lani: I'd be lying to you, give google a try, I will also look
[11:53] <lani> nooseisloose: googling in progress
[11:53] <bbrazil> morphix: I'm heading off to the shop
[11:53] <nitrt> hi, id like to know what /dev/xxxx what be assigned to a usb adsl modem when plugged in?
[11:53] <ompaul> poje, have a look on launchpad.net I think there have been several issues in that space you may see a solutin for yours
[11:53] <mikeymike-linux> so those indigo's you ahve they're the flat kind? teal colored? and u say you dont know if they work or not?
[11:53] <filemover> i dont learn any craft i just get bitten so often that i learn not to do the same stupid thing again
[11:53] <poje> ompaul: thanks, I'm lookin now
[11:54] <crazy4ubuntu> hi all
[11:54] <TyeDye> i've installed quake4 and can run the game if I click on the file and tell it to run but I can't run it from the command line,it says bash: quake4: command not found,any ideas why I can't run from terminal??
[11:54] <crazy4ubuntu> a question about automatix gui
[11:54] <Flannel> crazy4ubuntu: this wouldn't be the place for it then.
[11:54] <holycow> not only that, youshouldn't be using automatix
[11:54] <junkY_san> what fstype must i configure in fstab with fuse and ntfs?
[11:54] <crazy4ubuntu> hmm... Flannel, you're not fans of it ?
[11:54] <ra7eeel> so i have to read first of all the documentation of any distroo
[11:55] <ra7eeel> right
[11:55] <holycow> if you use automatix you may as well just reinstall your entire os
[11:55] <holycow> !automatix
[11:55] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:55] <Flannel> crazy4ubuntu: no.  Its dangerous and bad.
[11:55] <crazy4ubuntu> hmm... why dangerous ?
[11:55] <ic56> lani: do you know what drive number the CD is?  You'll need to know that in order to instruct grub to boot from the CD
[11:55] <holycow> ra7eeel, i would say a combination of reading and experimenting is usually most fruitfull
[11:55] <crazy4ubuntu> what are the risks ?
[11:55] <Flannel> crazy4ubuntu: because it makes ubuntu installs explode.
[11:55] <holycow> crazy4ubuntu, it bypasses the packaging system of ubuntu and the community, plus the guy that created it is a wacko
[11:56] <ZorK> ic56: Can you explain to me, what a Swap-area is?
[11:56] <morrolan> Does anyone know how to install a multi-cd program (game in Wine)?  I know how to install and use wine, but ive never done anything which uses more than 1 CD - it's asking me to change CD, but I can't open my CD drive, and "eject" won't work either
[11:56] <ra7eeel> thank you holycow
[11:56] <nitrt> hi, id like to know what /dev/xxxx what be assigned to a usb adsl modem when plugged in?
[11:56] <lani> ic56: like /dev/xxx?
[11:56] <lani> ic56: or something else?
[11:56] <ra7eeel> so i need from you to let me know what exactly i need to get start learning?
[11:56] <filemover> well XchaT it is
[11:56] <ompaul> crazy4ubuntu, take it to #automatix - if it trashes your system please don't ask for help here - the risks are trashed systems - overwriting default configuration files - does not break sweetly - i.e. can leave your machine in a mess, it might be an okay way for software on windows but is not for linux
[11:56] <ra7eeel> should i make a samll lab
[11:56] <ic56> lani: like "root (hd0,0)"
[11:56] <ra7eeel> give me steps
[11:56] <PwcrLinux> hi there
[11:56] <PwcrLinux> Anyone, I need to fix the update manager for security and upgrade some of them, the file not found in repos.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18055
[11:57] <crazy4ubuntu> holycow - then what is the easiest way to install w32codects ?
[11:57] <lani> ic56: any idea where I could find that info?
[11:57] <ubuntu01> hello all
[11:57] <holycow> ra7eeel, well actually the steps i outlined for you.  the reason you need those steps is because you need to know and identify the problem you ar etrying to solve.
[11:57] <ra7eeel> even you can let me make a samll lab and start reading the documentation and we can review the problems i faced together if u dont mind
[11:57] <Flannel> filemover: that'll get you kicked, just letting you know.
[11:57] <holycow> ra7eeel, no one ever knows all of linux/opensource/gnu ...
[11:57] <ubuntu01> hello
[11:58] <ompaul> !restricted > crazy4ubuntu
[11:58] <ompaul> crazy4ubuntu, check the message from the channel bot
[11:58] <holycow> ra7eeel, all we ever manage to do is learn enough to solve particular problems, and hire specialists in certain areas say like programming to help us out where we lack those skills
[11:58] <crazy4ubuntu> ok 10x.
[11:58] <morrolan> !wine faq
[11:58] <PwcrLinux> Gxine works codecs
[11:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about wine faq - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:58] <ic56> ra7eeel: since you know nothing about Linux, start by installing Linux on a single desktop computer.  Put it next to your windows computer and hook it up to your network.  Then spend some time learning how to use basic things.  Then, you'll be able to ask more intelligent questions
[11:58] <morrolan> !winbe
[11:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about winbe - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:58] <morrolan> !wine
[11:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:58] <holycow> ra7eeel, if you start reading without KNOWING WHY you are reading up on that ... you will spend the rest of your life reading, there is just too much to know
[11:58] <nitrt> hi, id like to know what /dev/xxxx what be assigned to a usb adsl modem when plugged in?
[11:58] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, you would seriously send those indigos to me? do they use special hardware?
[11:58] <nitrt> !dialing with usb modem
[11:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about dialing with usb modem - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:59] <holycow> crazy4ubuntu,
[11:59] <holycow> !restricted formats
[11:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:59] <holycow> crazy4ubuntu, there is zero reason to use automatix
[11:59] <holycow> crazy4ubuntu, there is also
[11:59] <holycow> !easyubuntu
[11:59] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:59] <paranoid_ndroid> hi, I have a alcatel USB modem with ADSL, and sometimes the connection goes down and stays down, I get the followin
[11:59] <paranoid_ndroid> pppd[5016] : No response to 4 echo-requests
[11:59] <paranoid_ndroid>  pppd[5016] : Serial link appears to be disconne$
[11:59] <paranoid_ndroid>  pppd[5016] : Connect time 317.1 minutes.
[11:59] <paranoid_ndroid>  pppd[5016] : Sent 4335756 bytes, received 86075$Jul 14 21:02:52
[11:59] <paranoid_ndroid>  pppd[5016] : Connection terminated.
[11:59] <ic56> ZorK: a swap area is a disk partition that is used by the OS in lieu of RAM.  Windows has a similar thing but I forget what it's called. (pagefile?)
[11:59] <paranoid_ndroid>  pppd[5016] : Exit.
[11:59] <jsm> Hi i need some help installing KDE i sort of forgot (i did it before lol)
[11:59] <holycow> which by they way is very coshure and doesn't bypass ubuntus packaging ... youshould be using that instead
[12:00] <ra7eeel> IC56, this is the point
[12:00] <ra7eeel> thank you
[12:00] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: I could be talked out of them real easy, but they aren't worth much, I checked, the HDD are missing
[12:00] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: I do have one monitor for em though
[12:00] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, what type of HDD do they use?
[12:00] <nitrt> hi, id like to know what /dev/xxxx what be assigned to a usb adsl modem when plugged in?
[12:00] <PwcrLinux> Good Morning Ompaul
[12:00] <ompaul> paranoid_ndroid, DO NOT paste in the channel, thanks, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:00] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: older scsi
[12:00] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, they use a specific monitor as well? ( i dont know anything about them )
[12:00] <ompaul> morning
[12:00] <jsm> Hi i need some help installing KDE i sort of forgot (i did it before lol)
[12:00] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, is the monitor you have crt?
[12:01] <crazy4ubuntu> holycow, apt has got super cow powers ;-) 10x man
[12:01] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: yes 17 or 19 in SGI
[12:01] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, i'd love to toy with these
[12:01] <holycow> crazy4ubuntu, it puts everything else to shame indeed
[12:01] <mikeymike-linux> neither have a hard drive though? :(
[12:01] <linav> i cant run xmms from streamtuner
[12:02] <linav> can anyone help me out please?
[12:02] <ic56> lani: you'd need to check the laptop's documentation (but if you do that, you'll also learn how to boot into the BIOS config, which will solve your original problem too :-) ).  OTOH, assuming the laptop uses an IDE bus, there would only be 4 possibilities: hd0,0 hd1,0 hd2,0 hd3,0
[12:02] <crazy4ubuntu> LOL, I  so much into apt super cow powers
[12:02] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: no, I might be able to scratch one up
[12:02] <ra7eeel> what distro you advise to start to install and trying the basics
[12:02] <filemover> is it safe to install one of the unsupported DC clients in ubuntu like valknut or dc_gui
[12:03] <holycow> ra7eeel, ubuntu is by far the easiest of all to start off with ... try ubuntu for desktop, them move on to debian for server (its almost identical), then try whatever else you want after that
[12:03] <morrolan> can anyone tell me how to open my CD drive when Wine is asking for the next CD?
[12:03] <crazy4ubuntu> holycow, do you think I can safely use 'apt-get install bring-peace-2-world' or this just a fantasie of super cow powers ?
[12:03] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, have we had "issues" in the last couple of hours?
[12:03] <linav> can anyone know why even after installing xmms, cant play live streams
[12:03] <linav> in streamtuner
[12:03] <holycow> crazy4ubuntu, ehe, if it were only that easy, eh?
[12:03] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: I am going to PM you ok
[12:03] <mikeymike-linux> sure thing
[12:03] <crazy4ubuntu> yep...
[12:03] <mikeymike-linux> im already typing to you haha
[12:04] <ic56> ra7eeel: Ubuntu is a good beginner's distro.  More importantly, it is popular and well supported in this channel.  Chances are you won't use it for your server but it's nevertheless a good way to start learning.
[12:04] <morrolan> 'apt-get install beer' is my favourite
[12:04] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: Yep, I have to wait till they fixed.
[12:04] <filemover> is it safe to install one of the unsupported DC clients in ubuntu like valknut or dc_gui
[12:04] <jsm> Can anuy one help me install kde?
[12:04] <crazy4ubuntu> holycow, 10x, I am off to read the stuff you sent me. if any problems I'll be back. Hope not.
[12:04] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: you get my email addy?
[12:04] <crazy4ubuntu> Peace and Love 2 all
[12:04] <holycow> later
[12:04] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, yes
[12:04] <morrolan> jsm:  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <jsm> thanks
[12:04] <paranoid_ndroid> jsm, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:05] <paranoid_ndroid> please help?
[12:05] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, would you like a gmail invite? :)
[12:05] <morrolan> paranoid: won't he need the kubuntu repo's?
[12:05] <mikeymike-linux> muahaha
[12:05] <RvGaTe> For some reason, i am unable to start the installation of ubuntu, when booting and settings things up (with the ubuntu logo and scrolling text benieth it) it hangs at "Setting up keyboard", then goes to a black screen all with I/O errors.... any ideas ?
[12:05] <paranoid_ndroid> I think not
[12:05] <paranoid_ndroid> he checks for all dependencies
[12:06] <morrolan> I have hundreds of gmail invites if people want them
[12:06] <CarNagE> How can I get the package information of a package from a repository with apt or dpkg?
[12:06] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: sure thing
[12:06] <paranoid_ndroid> I've installed xubuntu with that command and all worked great
[12:06] <sysKin> my freshly installed ubuntu seems to have trouble connecting to internet - ping works, firefox somethimes work, add/remove timesout downloading anything
[12:06] <morrolan> that's cool.
[12:06] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: I alway check before do upgrades for security fixes.. 2 of them not fetched it (missed file or server downed)
[12:06] <morrolan> sysKin, are you using ethernet?
[12:07] <jsm> isnt xubuntu the one that looks like mac?
[12:07] <sysKin> morrolan: ethernet to router, statically configured ip/gateway
[12:07] <morrolan> Does anyone know how I can eject my CD drive - wine needs the second disk but it won't let me open my drive
[12:07] <sysKin> morrolan: firefox seems to connects fine to my isp's website but times out *often* (not always) going further
[12:07] <ra7eeel> thank you , my last question which one i have to download ftp://ftp.proxad.net/mirrors/ftp.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/
[12:07] <debugger> hi
[12:08] <jsm> hi
[12:08] <Flannel> morrolan: you need to unmount it first, right click and unmount, if its mounted to your desktop
[12:08] <ic56> sysKin: sounds like short packets are getting through but longer ones aren't.  Maybe bad hardware?  Bad cabling?  If wireless, maybe intefference from another device?
[12:08] <debugger> can I upgrade my ubuntu install using the livecd packages?  or do I have to download everything from the net?
[12:08] <ic56> ra7eeel: do you have access to the web?
[12:08] <TyeDye> i've installed quake4 and can run the game if I click on the file and tell it to run but I can't run it from the command line,it says bash: quake4: command not found,any ideas why I can't run from terminal??
[12:09] <Samus_Aran> does someone know why Ubuntu is using GNU CoreUtils 5.93 from 2005, when it is up to 5.97 already ?  the most recent one being June 24th of this year
[12:09] <sysKin> ic56: hmmmmm any idea how to check all that. two other windows computers are in the network and they're fine so it must be something in that box
[12:09] <ra7eeel> ic56, yes sure
[12:09] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, so choices are use synaptic (I guess you used apt-get) - do dist-upgrade to force the issue
[12:09] <nooseisloose> TyeDye: look and see if the full path is given in the shortcut
[12:09] <Samus_Aran> TyeDye: because it isn't in your path
[12:10] <ic56> sysKin: sorry, not an expert with flaky networking
[12:10] <nitrt> hi, id like to know what /dev/xxxx what be assigned to a usb adsl modem when plugged in?
[12:10] <Samus_Aran> TyeDye: if you type the full path into the terminal, it will run it the same as your shortcut icon
[12:10] <TyeDye> thanks
[12:10] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: Yea, I am using breezy, I rather wait month will get full LTS upgrades, still need to finish up the security fixes before goes full upgrade to LTS.
[12:10] <Samus_Aran> TyeDye: otherwise you need to add a launcher script for it somewhere in your path (or symlink it)
[12:11] <ra7eeel> ??
[12:11] <nitrt> hi, id like to know what /dev/xxxx (folder) would a usb adsl modem be assigned when plugged in?
[12:11] <filemover> anyone got an opinion about azureus in ubuntu
[12:11] <holycow> ra7eeel, whats yhour last question, missed it
[12:11] <ic56> ra7eeel: go to ubuntu.com and read the instructions.
[12:11] <filemover> does it work well
[12:11] <Samus_Aran> filemover: same as Azureus in any other distro: most features, but eats RAM and CPU
[12:11] <ic56> ra7eeel: depending on teh hardware, you'll want to pick a different CD image to download.
[12:11] <filemover> k
[12:12] <filemover> it does that to in windows
[12:12] <filemover> so its no different
[12:12] <filemover> does it need java
[12:12] <Samus_Aran> it is just a RAM-hungry Java app, unfortunately
[12:12] <filemover> in ubuntu
[12:12] <ic56> ra7eeel: also, there are 3 variations on the software: Ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu.  Get the first one -- it's the most widely used
[12:12] <dprr> Could somebody please tell me when I plug a USB ADSL modem in and Linux identifies it in /var/log/messages - to what /dev/XXXX would it be assigned?
[12:12] <Samus_Aran> just make sure you always use the most recent version of Azureus and Sun Java Runtime
[12:12] <nooseisloose> anyoen here have a working hostapd.conf for prism2_pci ?
[12:12] <nooseisloose> I know all about flaky networking
[12:12] <Samus_Aran> dprr: does anything show up in 'dmesg' ?
[12:12] <filemover> ok
[12:13] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, did you get my query?
[12:13] <filemover> ive got all the latest updates
[12:13] <filemover> so i should be safe
[12:13] <dprr> Samus_Aran: yep, it detects it but it doesnt show exactly what /dev/ its been assigned
[12:13] <mikeymike-linux> why do i see alot of SGI's with NO hardrives? haha.. must be a good part........
[12:14] <Samus_Aran> dprr: I suppose you could go: diff <(find /dev) <(sleep 10s; find /dev)
[12:14] <dprr> Samus_Aran: and the LNK light stops flickering after about 20seconds, so its all perfect. I'm just having endless trouble actuallying brining up the ADSL connection to my ISP. We use PPPoE and need to specify a VCI/VPI - I understand I need to use the plugin rp-pppoe.so in my config?
[12:14] <Samus_Aran> dprr: and plug it in during those ten seconds.  that will show you any changes to the files in /dev
[12:15] <ra7eeel> ic56, thank you fro your kind help , peace upon you
[12:15] <morrolan> Does anyone know how to change CD during a Wine install of a game?
[12:15] <Samus_Aran> morrolan: I had that same problem ...
[12:15] <nooseisloose> mikeymike-linux: hard drives wear out
[12:15] <ic56> ra7eeel: yw
[12:16] <mikeymike-linux> nooseisloose, but are they special HD's why cant they just be replaced or something?
[12:16] <Samus_Aran> morrolan: I ended up just copying the files to the drive first  =/
[12:16] <dprr> Samus_Aran: it does not seem to display anything but it picks it up fine
[12:16] <filemover> whats bittornado like Samus_Aran
[12:16] <filemover> is that any good
[12:16] <Samus_Aran> filemover: I have been using Azureus for a long time now, haven't tried any other clients in years.  I know BitTornado is popular, but know nothing about it
[12:17] <filemover> k
[12:17] <poje> Okay, so now when I boot up there's no wlan0
[12:17] <filemover> im in the same boat
[12:17] <ic56> ra7eeel: are you still there?
[12:17] <filemover> thnx
[12:17] <poje> But all the hw is there and ndiswrapper says the hw is present
[12:17] <poje> What the crap happened?
[12:18] <neosc> just installed dapper.. in breezy there was this utility (dialog box) to view how much has been uploaded/downloaded from the internet.. where can i find this utility in dapper?
[12:19] <fateminasab> How can i see dat files on ubuntu?
[12:19] <Samus_Aran> fateminasab: what is in the dat file ?  (there are many types of dat files)
[12:19] <nooseisloose> fateminasab: cat ?
[12:19] <TARZEAU> fateminasab: what says file the.dat ?
[12:20] <onorin> hello, when I plug out my laptop's adapter battery manager is telling me Power critically low with 100% full charge , Is there a fix for that ?
[12:20] <ZorK> Why does the install just close when i press "install" after the 6th step? It thinks a bit, then just closes.
[12:20] <Samus_Aran> fateminasab: if you're not sure, "file" is a great utility, as TARZEAU suggested
[12:20] <neosc> just installed dapper.. in breezy there was this utility (dialog box) to view how much has been uploaded/downloaded from the internet.. where can i find this utility in dapper?
[12:20] <ra7eeel> ic56, what your opinion start with the desktop then after well know go to the server version then start replace the services on my work ?? or the better is going to a company make the migration and gives me Support packag
[12:20] <ra7eeel> Training packag
[12:20] <ic56> anyone know where the instructions on choosing which CD image to download went?  I just instructed someone to "just read the instructions at Ubuntu.com" but upon looking there myself, I find nothing that would guide a complete novice
[12:20] <nooseisloose> I am out y'all
[12:20] <ubuntu> How do i know what Ethernet i got?
[12:20] <rpedro> can someone please send me this file from your /var/cache/apt/archive directory : libgl1-mesa-dri_6.4.1-0ubuntu8_i386.deb , thanks!
[12:20] <dprr> Samus_Aran: any other assistance for me perhaps? ive been strugglying for the past 24 hours :(
[12:20] <Flannel> ic56: it's on the donwnload page
[12:21] <fateminasab> I mean Movie dat file
[12:21] <Samus_Aran> fateminasab: mplayer
[12:21] <ic56> Flannel: I looked but I don't see it.  Is it a hidden link or something?
[12:21] <poje> Is there any reason my wifi card should not be bound to wlan0 all of a sudden? ndiswrapper says the hw is there, so I don't know what happened
[12:21] <Samus_Aran> fateminasab: mplayer can play everything
[12:21] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: should I close the sypantic notification or just reboot to clear notification?
[12:21] <piwi> hi!
[12:21] <neosc> in breezy there was this utility (dialog box) to view how much has been uploaded/downloaded from the internet.. where can i find this utility in dapper?? It has a icon like 2 monitors
[12:21] <Generic> what's the command to check cpu load?
[12:22] <rpedro> Generic: top
[12:22] <ZorK> ic56: Why does the install just close when i press "install" after the 6th step? It thinks a bit, then just closes.
[12:22] <Samus_Aran> Generic: if you want a running total, try "top".  if you want just the load averages, try cat /proc/loadavg
[12:22] <Flannel> ic56: it's on the download pages (after you select the mirror) for instance: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[12:22] <piwi> hi, I am having a bizarre thing with ubuntu 6.06LTS
[12:22] <ic56> ZorK: sorry, I don't know.
[12:22] <rpedro> Generic: or 'uptime'
[12:22] <onorin> hello, when I plug out my laptop's adapter, battery manager is telling me  "Power critically low" with a baloon , although it is 100% full charge , Is there a fix for that ?
[12:22] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, I would close synaptic
[12:22] <Samus_Aran> Generic: "w" and "uptime" also display the load average
[12:22] <holycow> neosc, right click on panel and add applet ... its in there
[12:23] <Samus_Aran> onorin: have you searched in the wiki ?
[12:23] <Samus_Aran> onorin: I haven't used a laptop for GNU/Linux before, myself
[12:23] <fateminasab> I have a low speed connection an mplayer is too heavy for me. Is there any decoder for example?
[12:23] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: okay where's the "Close" or "Exit" on the notification (Gray ! over the counterwise icon)?
[12:23] <cd_rom> is there a ubuntu dvd iso?
[12:23] <ic56> Flannel: thank you!  Somehow following the links I thought reasonable wasn't taking to that page.
[12:23] <morphix> bbrazil, i know WHY the card isnt working properly.. dunno how to fix it though.
[12:23] <Generic> what exactly is the load average out of? 10?
[12:23] <Flannel> cd_rom: there is
[12:23] <Samus_Aran> fateminasab: mplayer is the lightest video player out there, what do you mean by heavy ?
[12:24] <onorin> Samus_Aran, yeah, I also posted this issue to forums. Moreover this was never  a problem in breezy
[12:24] <piwi> hello, I would like to chmod /boot/grub/menu.lst as it was before (I tried to edit it and did chmod 777 but now I cant revert) and also I dont have anymore icons on my desktop... What can I do?
[12:24] <neosc> thanks holycow
[12:24] <Samus_Aran> fateminasab: it uses substantially less CPU/RAM than any other players
[12:24] <cd_rom> Flannel:what it contains?
[12:24] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, what app are you specifically talking about synaptic? have you a "sub window" open or something?
[12:24] <Flannel> piwi: use sudo [editor]  instead of chmod/chowning
[12:24] <timalot> Generic, its avg of how many process want to use the cpu over the last 5 minutes
[12:24] <cd_rom> Flannel: i meant what the difference? more packages etc...?
[12:25] <Generic> timalot, makes sense now :)
[12:25] <piwi> Flannel: ok thanks I will do so but what is the original chmod for menu.lst, I dont know it...
[12:25] <rpedro> what's the command line command to downgrade a package, I need to because a package from a repository for aiglx is giving me problems, and the force version function from synaptic tries to uninstall a load of other packages !
[12:25] <Samus_Aran> piwi: sudo chmod u=rw,go=r /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:25] <Flannel> cd_rom: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/6.06/release/  yeah, more packages
[12:25] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: It's on taskbar next to the battery meter or clock.
[12:25] <Samus_Aran> piwi: and make sure it is owned by root, not your user
[12:25] <cd_rom> thanks Flannel, you are very helpful
[12:25] <ZorK> Why does the install just close when i press "install" after the 6th step? It thinks a bit, then just closes.
[12:25] <timalot> Generic, on the uptime command it shows the avg over the last 1, 5, 15 minutes
[12:25] <onorin> OK one last time : when I plug out my laptop's adapter, battery manager is telling me  "Power critically low" with a baloon , although it is 100% full charge , Is there a fix for that ?
[12:26] <onorin> Anyone knows about power managment of ubuntu here ?
[12:26] <Samus_Aran> dprr: so did you do that command and unplug (or plug in) the USB device during the 10 second pause ?
[12:26] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, you seem to be having some issues - that is usually a sign that it is running, log out and back in
[12:26] <crazy_penguin> good day everyone!
[12:26] <ic56> ra7eeel: I recommend installing desktop and just using it to do basic things like editing files, sending email, saving and renaming files in directories, etc.  After you've done that for a few full days, you can decide whether you'd like to proceed.  Purchasing support is indeed an option but, if your company doesn't have a mandate to move specifically to Ubuntu, then you'll have to spend more time researching teh web to f
[12:26] <Samus_Aran> dprr: I don't know USB PPPoE modems, but that command will show you any and all files being added or removed from /dev in those ten seconds
[12:27] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: okay should I reboot it to clear the notification?
[12:27] <dprr> samus: i did try it but it didnt show anything
[12:27] <Samus_Aran> dprr: and you unplugged/or plugged in during the 10 seconds ?  (but only one, not both)
[12:27] <ic56> ra7eeel: ...distro and support package is best for you (price, contract terms, functionality, etc)
[12:27] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, as I said log out, try the complete reboot and then start the updates from the icon
[12:28] <Samus_Aran> dprr: it will probably create an entry in /dev/bus/usb/, if nowhere else
[12:28] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: okay let me try brb
[12:28] <dprr> Samus_Aran: trying something else now, will let you know in a moment
[12:29] <morphix> Is there anyway in linux to change an IRQ for a device?
[12:29] <michaels> what's the easiest way to burn a cue+bin image?
[12:29] <ic56> !
[12:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:29] <poje> Does _anyone_ know what would make my wlan0 disappear while ndiswrapper still says hw is present - I removed the acx drivers and put in ndiswrapper, looked all right, then rebooted; now wlan0 is gone
[12:30] <sam_> ubuntu wont let me install kde....with the sudo apt-get install command
[12:30] <Flannel> sam_: what error do you get?
[12:30] <Samus_Aran> morphix: yes
[12:30] <sam_> how do you enable the sources i try to tick those boxes but they untick
[12:30] <sam_> umm
[12:31] <holycow> thats just poor ui design sam ... if you check the main window you will see the sources added
[12:31] <sam_> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[12:31] <morphix> Samus_Aran, how?
[12:31] <Flannel> sam_: yeah, you need to add the online sources
[12:31] <sam_> how
[12:31] <sam_> please
[12:31] <ic56> poje: did you set it up so that ndiswrapper would get loaded everytime you boot?  If not, that's probably the cause of your problem
[12:31] <a2xm> hi, can someone help me with fstab pls?
[12:31] <Samus_Aran> morphix: you generally do this when you load the module for the device.  you can automate this by adding the option to a file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[12:32] <ic56> a2xm: ask your question
[12:32] <piwi> hello back
[12:32] <syndicate47> OT: hi. i want to auto-login to freenode. if I enter /ignore nickserv the server tells me IGNORE Unkown command. anybody know what the ignore command for freenode is?
[12:32] <sam_> How do I enable online sources?
[12:32] <morphix> Samus_Aran, the NIC seems to have IRQ 11.. which i keep getting IRQ error.. then disabled
[12:32] <sysKin> ok my network situation ius now different - ping works fine, firefox works fine, but package manager can't connect to anything at all
[12:32] <piwi> Flannel: do you mind telling me again how to revert the chmod of /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[12:32] <Samus_Aran> morphix: modprobe <name of module> <options go here>
[12:32] <poje> ic56: I did do ndiswrapper -m which should have put it in, and I see stuff in lsmod about ndiswrapper, but /etc/modules is blank of any reference
[12:33] <Flannel> !tell sam_ about sources
[12:33] <a2xm> ic56: I can't auto mount my dvdrom anymore.
[12:33] <Samus_Aran> morphix: it is often as simple as: modprobe foo irq=12
[12:33] <yacek19> hello
[12:33] <sam_> thanks mate {die microsoft}
[12:33] <ic56> a2xm: why do you think the problem is in fstab?  Did you mess it up yourself?
[12:33] <Samus_Aran> morphix: but each module has its own parameters, which you generally need to check out in the Linux Documentation folder
[12:33] <lezouave> #ubuntu-fr
[12:33] <yacek19> is there any way I can install snapshot version of ubuntu?
[12:33] <Flannel> piwi: I didn't in the first place, but here:  Samus_Aran> piwi: sudo chmod u=rw,go=r /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:34] <Flannel> yacek19: what do you mean?
[12:34] <rpedro> what's the command line to downgrade a package version that's no longer available to the current version from the repositories?
[12:34] <onorin> Anyone knows about power managment of ubuntu here ?
[12:34] <morphix> Samus_Aran, well how could i change a module IRQ permanetly
[12:34] <lezouave> # fr-ubuntu
[12:34] <yacek19> there is development version of ubuntu named snapshot, I would like to have it
[12:34] <Samus_Aran> morphix: I don't know the exact syntax, but Ubuntu seems to have all such options in /etc/modprobe.d/
[12:34] <Samus_Aran> morphix: check out the files there for guidance
[12:34] <rpedro> !edgy
[12:34] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:34] <onorin> when I plug out my laptop's adapter, battery manager is telling me  "Power critically low" with a baloon , although it is 100% full charge , Is there a fix for that ?
[12:35] <frogzoo> rpedro: doesn't exist I'm afraid
[12:35] <piwi> thans Flannel and Samus_Aran!!
[12:35] <ic56> poje: sorry, I can't provide more specific advice in that area.  Your question sounded like you had missed the obvious... :-(
[12:35] <rpedro> frogzoo: :(
[12:35] <Flannel> yacek19: you mean edgy?  there are edgy repositories, yes.
[12:35] <Samus_Aran> morphix: but you should also be aware that modprobe options are very, very rarely needed.  there is more likely something else that is not directly related that is the problem
[12:35] <a2xm> ic56: because I've many partisions that i want to auto mount as well. I use winmac_fstab on 5.10 before and it was OK.
[12:35] <Samus_Aran> piwi: welcome
[12:35] <frogzoo> rpedro: only way out, I'm guessing, might be source from CVS or in the repos
[12:35] <yacek19> how can I have it?
[12:36] <a2xm> ic56: so I just copy my old fstab to 6.06
[12:36] <rpedro> frogzoo: I'm trying to use the 'force version' function in synaptic, but it tries to uninstall a *lot* of other packages...
[12:36] <piwi> I now have two other things to fix if you guys dont mind. First is: when i log on, I dont have any icons on my desktop (before I had my computer CDROM etc) and Second: GAIM autocloses when I start it... Thanks for your help and sorry about that I am total newbie or almost with unix
[12:36] <Flannel> yacek19: there are repositories, #ubuntu+1 will get you more information
[12:36] <frogzoo> onorin: which ubuntu?
[12:36] <onorin> frogzoo, dapper
[12:36] <rpedro> frogzoo: and I'm trying to force to the version available in the official ubuntu repositories
[12:36] <frogzoo> onorin: & what make/model lappie?
[12:36] <onorin> frogzoo, there  were no problems in breezy,
[12:37] <onorin> frogzoo, also there is no such problem with kubuntu dapper
[12:37] <Samus_Aran> piwi: when you changed the permissions of your GRUB config file, what else did you mess with ?
[12:37] <ic56> a2xm: you might be better off using the new version of that script to re-create teh mac and windows entries using teh latest flags. hang on
[12:37] <onorin> frogzoo, , hp nx 7010
[12:37] <frogzoo> onorin: there's a few irksome issues with dapper, which worked in breezy
[12:37] <a2xm> ic56: but now is only the cdrom that can auto mount
[12:37] <Samus_Aran> piwi: it's probably related to the missing icons and lack of GAIM working
[12:37] <fateminasab> Mplayer is 8 MB and its codecs are 10 MB, Is there any codec just for Movie dat files?
[12:37] <a2xm> ic56: yes, i just wondering if there's a new version of that
[12:38] <onorin> frogzoo, any ideas to diagnose the problem ? I have both ubuntu and kubuntu  dapper installed. There's no such problem in kubuntu
[12:38] <ic56> a2xm: wait, so don't have a problem with the windows filesystems?
[12:38] <piwi> Samus_Aran: but how come, I didnt remove any icons or whatsoever :( I just did chmod menu.lst to change default boot system and all of this happened... my system was working perfectly fine before
[12:38] <frogzoo> onorin:  cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state
[12:39] <piwi> Samus_Aran: I also changed my wlan interface properties as internet when back and I changed the WEP key using the wizard and tahts it... im not guilty sir1!
[12:39] <onorin> frogzoo, no such file or dir
[12:39] <ic56> a2xm: and, I suppose you didn't have the foresight to make a backup copy of /etc/fstab before you blindly overwrote it with your old one?
[12:39] <frogzoo> onorin: surprise surpise ...
[12:39] <a2xm> ic56: windows fs is ok. but i just need the auto mount of my partisions and my dvdrom
[12:39] <sysKin> help, my package manager can't connect to any repository at all, while firefox and ping connect to these servers fine :/
[12:39] <frogzoo> onorin: acpi's not running, for some reason
[12:39] <freaker2k4> hello everyone.
[12:39] <onorin> frogzoo, there is a folder called C11F in
[12:39] <morphix> Samus_Aran, well i get a "IRQ 11: nobody cared, handlers: [<e0a09e50>]  (rtl8169_interrupt+0x0/0x190 [r8169] ), Disabling IRQ #11"
[12:39] <a2xm> ic56: i can't use my dvdrom
[12:40] <onorin> frogzoo, in that path
[12:40] <a2xm> ic56: eventhough i manualy mount it
[12:40] <frogzoo> onorin: what's that file say? battery type info?
[12:40] <onorin> frogzoo, in /proc/acpi/battery/C11F/ ther are 3 files
[12:40] <ic56> a2xm: are you saying you are successful in manually mount your dvdrom?
[12:41] <lz1gjd> !qemu
[12:41] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[12:41] <onorin> frogzoo,  they are : alarm  info  state
[12:41] <a2xm> ic56: no, i can not mount my dvdrom
[12:42] <afflux> is there any way to avoid that UT2004 captures all keystrokes? following problems: | a) i can't use my hotkeys to control amaroK, while i'm playing ut. | b) if ut2004 crashes, i need to reboot...
[12:42] <lz1gjd> could you tell me if 6000fps in glxgears is normal for an x800gto vcard
[12:42] <a2xm> ic56: and yes i dont have the original new fstab from 6.06
[12:42] <sysKin> ok, I *think* package manager resolves all repository names to 1.0.0.0
[12:42] <onorin> frogzoo, do you also have that folder  ? I mean C11F
[12:42] <fateminasab> Is there any codec just for Movie "DAT" files?
[12:43] <ic56> a2xm: do you know what type of hardware that DVDROM is?  IDE?  SATA?
[12:43] <piwi> Samus_Aran: are you busy?
[12:43] <lz1gjd> fateminasab: isn't .dat a normal mpeg2 video ?mplayer , whatever should be able to play it fine
[12:43] <a2xm> ic56: IDE
[12:44] <ic56> Anyone know what device names for IDE DVDROMs look like?  a2xm deleted his /etc/fstab and needs to recreate it...
[12:44] <onorin> frogzoo,
[12:44] <a2xm> ic56: do you wanna see my ls -l /dev/hd* ?
[12:45] <fateminasab> It's too heavy for me to download.
[12:45] <frogzoo> onorin: no I don't - I only have BAT1
[12:45] <onorin> I got this one: /proc/acpi/battery/C11F/state
[12:45] <freaker2k4> i have a conflict installing my cable to the, the "router"( which also connects the phone line...(which is not active for this device)..[i've got it from my provider (012 in Israel...)] ) to eth0 (which is already configured in /etc/network/interfaces); i have Xubuntu 6.06 (Xfce 4.2); Please help me with a link or a sny othe solution.
[12:45] <onorin> frogzoo, may be same file ?
[12:45] <sysKin> help? every host name is resolved to 1.0.0.0, excepet in firefox where I disabled ipv6
[12:45] <frogzoo> onorin: except /proc isn't a "real" file system...
[12:46] <onorin> frogzoo, the file starts like : present:                 yes
[12:46] <onorin> capacity state:          ok
[12:46] <a2xm> ic56: isn't there a new version of winmac_fstab?
[12:47] <ic56> a2xm: yeah, ok.  ls -l /dev/hd* is worth a shot.  pastebin the output
[12:47] <frogzoo> onorin: looks to be the same - I'm thinking the power applet has maybe a wrong path
[12:47] <PwcrLinux> I'm off to sleep :) have good night :)
[12:47] <Toge> hello
[12:47] <frogzoo> onorin: you might try running the power applet from a command line & see if there's warnings
[12:47] <shukhrat> how update from Breezy Badger to Dapper Drake ?
[12:47] <onorin> frogzoo, when it is plugged in the file continues : charging state:          charged "new line" present rate:            0 mA
[12:47] <Toge> do you know what I have to install to use divx codecs in Avidemux?
[12:47] <onorin> frogzoo, and what is the command line for that ?
[12:48] <ic56> a2xm: yes, there's a new version of winmac_fstab but it won't help you.  Neither the original nor the new version (which I wrote) is capable of generating entries for removable media
[12:48] <shukhrat> how update from Breezy Badger to Dapper Drake ?
[12:49] <shukhrat> !LAMP
[12:49] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:49] <a2xm> ic56: why?
[12:49] <ic56> a2xm: why what?
[12:49] <prxq> i'm impressed how well ubuntu can deal with my laptop.
[12:49] <prxq> in-built wlan just working. whoa.
[12:49] <a2xm> ic56: why I can't use the winmac_fstab..? just let me try it..?
[12:50] <shukhrat> !Dapper Drake
[12:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about Dapper Drake - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:50] <a2xm> ic56: i PM u the ls -l
[12:50] <RvGaTe> For some reason, i am unable to start the installation of ubuntu, when booting and settings things up (with the ubuntu logo and scrolling text benieth it) it hangs at "Setting up keyboard", then goes to a black screen all with I/O errors.... any ideas ?
[12:50] <frogzoo> onorin: try: gnome-power-manager --verbose --no-daemon
[12:50] <sysKin> is there a way to completely disable ipv6? it b0rks DNS, somehow
[12:51] <ic56> a2xm: I'll say it again: winmac does *not* generate fstab entries for DVDROMs.  I should know -- I've worked with that code.
[12:51] <frogzoo> !upgrade > shukhrat
[12:51] <ic56> a2xm: haven't seen your PM yet...
[12:51] <a2xm> ic56: oh.. but it was ok on ubuntu 5.05
[12:51] <onorin> frogzoo, Power Manager is already running in this session. It says
[12:52] <onorin> which is true I suppose
[12:52] <poje> YESSSSSS
[12:52] <onorin> how ubuntu decides my power level is critical or not ?
[12:52] <piwi> excuse me, could anyone help me with my broken desktop and non working GAIM please?
[12:53] <shukhrat> frogzoo: Thanks !
[12:54] <ic56> a2xm: no, htat script didn't generte entries for DVDROMs on 5.10 either.  You can't just overwrite one config file with another without checking to see the contents of the files.  In your case, presumably the old and new files were different -- and you deleted teh new one.
[12:54] <morphix> Is there anyway for MPlayer to automatically choose Ac3 via SPDIF on DD vids only.. and when selecting normal vids (such as mp3 audio) it just defaults to normal (so non ac3 via spdif).. because it whinges if it gets a file with anything lower than 48000khz.. so i have to manually choose the audio output and restart mplayer everytime i wanna play something differnet.
[12:54] <ic56> a2xm: is that ls -l coming?
[12:54] <krazykirk> I have a problem, You know when you start a program, a outline grows to fill the screen, well in xgl, which i'm running, it grows pretty slowly. not slow enough to slow down my computer, but slow enough to be annoying. any ideas/fixes?
[12:55] <abo> after resizing/moving my partition GRUB doesn't start any more (it says stage 1.5, error 17) can anyone help?
[12:55] <fiveiron> holy cow this is ridiculous... i can tune my ATI TV-Wonder Pro with like 5 different apps, but I can't seem to get anything to record the video that I am seeing...
[12:55] <v33> hello all...  i plan to run a shell server at home ... since i won't be here to administer the thing can i have the system automatically boot in without a password being required after a power failure ?
[12:55] <v33> where do i find the relevent details ?
[12:56] <krazykirk> abo: check out http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Re-install_Grub_with_Live_CD
[12:56] <a2xm> ic56: did you get it?
[12:56] <v33> fiveiron: tried changing overlay to ... ?
[12:56] <ic56> abo: do you, perhance, know what "error 17" is?
[12:56] <ic56> a2xm: no, I didn't get it.
[12:56] <v33> fiveiron: you might want to try #v4l
[12:57] <ic56> a2xm: messaging myself seems to work.
[12:57] <abo> ic56, it says on internet error 17 means it cannot mount the partition, but I can't understand why
[12:57] <XiXaQ> I use ddclient for DynDNS services. However, ddclient only gets my local network ip, so my xixaq.homelinux.net domain points to 192.168.10.11. How do I fix this?
[12:57] <frogzoo> onorin: I'd suggest at this stage u check the ubuntu laptop docs for the same/similiar model
[12:57] <frogzoo> !laptop
[12:57] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[12:57] <a2xm> ic56: how do you PM someone: ;-)
[12:57] <xzz> XiXaQ: Check your DynDNS settings ..
[12:57] <ic56> a2xm: if you can't get PM to work, how about you pastebin?
[12:58] <a2xm> ic56: private chat right?
[12:58] <a2xm> ic56: ok.. coming
[12:58] <ic56> a2xm: private chat fine too
[12:58] <bagpuss_thecat> I've had this before, and fixed it beore, but I can't for the life of me remember how to fix the "could not open default font 'fixed'" error when starting X
[12:58] <ic56> abo: sounds like the cause is that the partition number changed
[12:58] <bagpuss_thecat> any ideas? :-)
[12:58] <krazykirk> abo: i sent you a private message explaining how to fix it
[12:58] <a2xm> ic56: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18066
[12:59] <piwi> excuse me, could anyone help me with my broken desktop and non working GAIM please?
[12:59] <a2xm> ic56: i did sent you private chat..
[12:59] <abo> krazykirk, I didnt' get any private message,  I'm checking the website you sent in public, thank you.. I'll get back if I need more help
[01:00] <krazykirk> lol ok
[01:00] <XiXaQ> xzz, for ddclient? It's updating the wrong ip... I can't update DynDNS every fifteen minutes or whatever.
[01:00] <ic56> abo: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst .  There's probably a discrepancy between the scecond number in one of the (hd0,0) -like enties and the partition number you have as a result of having moved
[01:00] <poje> Does dapper have some crazy selinux stuff in it by default?
[01:00] <prxq> XiXaQ: you can use a myip service like ipid.shat.net
[01:00] <ompaul> paranoid_ndroid, turn off that now
[01:01] <frogzoo> abo: also check /boot/grub/device.map
[01:01] <prxq> XiXaQ: that returns the ip that faces the world, not the one behind your nat router
[01:01] <efuzzyone> hello
[01:01] <XiXaQ> prxq, without running a program here?
[01:01] <prxq> XiXaQ: dclient asks s site like that what the ip is that it is seeing.
[01:02] <prxq> in the ddclient conf file there is an example.
[01:02] <XiXaQ> what!
[01:02] <abo> ic56, hwat does hd0,0 exactly refer to?
[01:02] <onorin> frogzoo, I dont think there's an entry for dapper
[01:02] <XiXaQ> prxq, ddclient _tells_ a site when to update my domain name.
[01:02] <xzz> abo: /dev/hda1
[01:02] <efuzzyone> i am trying to load ntfs file system ith rite access, my fstab entry is
[01:02] <efuzzyone> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs-fuse auto,gid=1002,umask=0002   0       0
[01:03] <poje> !xgl > poison_
[01:03] <poje> !xgl > poje
[01:03] <frogzoo> onorin: file a bug
[01:03] <poje> oops, sorry poison_ ;(
[01:03] <abo> krazykirk, I did the commands in the website, it says succeede, does it mean I can reboot normally now?
[01:03] <efuzzyone> but the drive is still shon belonging to the root group, ho do I change the group for the drive?
[01:03] <ic56> a2xm: looks like you have two cdrom-like devices, both on the 2nd IDE channel. Do you know which is which?  BTW, that's probably causing sub-optimal performance.
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> is there a free windows nfs client?
[01:04] <ic56> abo: hd0,1 means first harddisk, 2nd partition.  All numbers are zero-based
[01:04] <abo> xzz, I don't have /dev/hda1... I have /dev/sda1 .. is it the same? I thinkt that's because I have SATA drives not hde..
[01:04] <prxq> XiXaQ: yes, but you want to send the addr of the router, and that you find out by asking somewhere else. Although dyndns also has a my ip thing.
[01:04] <a2xm> ic56: do you wanna see my fstab? and btw, there's mtab. what is it? it seems a connection both of them?
[01:04] <XiXaQ> prxq, I'm asking how I can make ddclient send the correct ip.
[01:05] <krazykirk> abo: Yeah you can reboot, and it should work!
[01:05] <a2xm> ic56: because when i type mount it show of the mtab
[01:05] <abo> krazykirk, thank you.. I'll do now
[01:05] <krazykirk> abo: no problem =)
[01:05] <piwi> excuse me, could anyone help me with my broken desktop and non working GAIM please?
[01:05] <XiXaQ> prxq, If I have to check my ip manually ten times a day and update normally, then I could save some resources and kill ddclient completely.
[01:06] <v33> XiXaQ: i think dyndns has a model config file ...
[01:06] <prxq> XiXaQ: check the config file. It is there.
[01:06] <onorin> frogzoo, oh no thanks, last time I filed a bug, it remained unconfirmed for  8 months
[01:06] <onorin> thought this is still better than Sun
[01:07] <onorin> though
[01:07] <ic56> a2xm: mtab is a list of things currently mounted. fstab is a list of all things installed on your system.  Seeing your broken fstab probably won't answer the question of which drive is which, but I might as well.  Please append hte contetnts of /etc/fstab to the existing pastebin entry (#18066)
[01:07] <a2xm> ic56: this's my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18061
[01:07] <XiXaQ> prxq, I must be blind or stupid. Could you show me where that is? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/dPXQ5f76.html
[01:08] <a2xm> ic56: what do you mean?
[01:08] <RvGaTe> Is it just me, or is my question being ignored for some unexplained reason?
[01:09] <piwi> RvGaTe: just like mine. maybe nobody has the answer atm
[01:09] <v33> XiXaQ: http://www.dyndns.com/support/kb/archives/using_ddclient_with_dyndns_services.html
[01:09] <ic56> a2xm: what do you mean, what do I mean?   Anyway, I saw your fstab and it doesn't help much.  Let's take a stab in the darK: try "ls -ld /media/devdrom" do you get an error?
[01:09] <RvGaTe> piwi, you having the same problem?
[01:10] <ic56> a2xm: oops, devdrom --> dvdrom
[01:10] <heretician> After the installation of gnus, where is it located?
[01:10] <v33> XiXaQ: #use=web, web=checkip.dyndns.org/, web-skip='IP Address'
[01:11] <v33> XiXaQ: just need to use that ... and i think everything should be fine ...
[01:11] <RvGaTe> (for the third time today): For some reason, i am unable to start the installation of ubuntu, when booting and settings things up (with the ubuntu logo and scrolling text benieth it) it hangs at "Setting up keyboard", then goes to a black screen all with I/O errors.... any ideas ?
[01:11] <prxq> XiXaQ: your config: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/J8ssnB27.html
[01:11] <a2xm> ic56: ok
[01:12] <XiXaQ> Great.. Thank you.
[01:12] <a2xm> ic56: andre@ubuntu:~$ ls -ld /media/dvdrom
[01:12] <a2xm> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2006-07-10 21:37 /media/dvdrom -> cdrom0
[01:13] <sysKin> YESSSS disabling ipv6 solved all my dns problems \o/
[01:13] <ic56> a2xm: now that I think about it, there's gonna be plenty more wrong with your old fstab.  I haven't switched to 6.06 yet but from what I've seen, teh new setup uses several pseudo-filesystems that your fstab lacks.
[01:13] <ic56> a2xm: ok, let's try this: ls -ld /media/cdrom0
[01:14] <ic56> a2xm: and also: ls -ld /media/cdrom*
[01:15] <a2xm> ic56: andre@ubuntu:~$ ls -ld /media/cdrom0
[01:15] <a2xm> ls: /media/cdrom0: No such file or directory
[01:15] <a2xm> ic56: I've changed manually the name on /media
[01:15] <finalbeta> Is is possible to get crossfading in Rhythmbox? (if not I need a descent player)
[01:15] <frogzoo> onorin: the other alternative is to find a fix & then submit a patch
[01:15] <a2xm> ic56: andre@ubuntu:~$ ls -ld /media/cdrom*
[01:15] <a2xm> dr-xr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 2006-05-31 10:16 /media/cdrom
[01:16] <ic56> a2xm: what did you change?  What was it before and what is it now?
[01:16] <onorin> frogzoo, check this out, same here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/42705
[01:16] <a2xm> ic56: cdrom0 --> cdrom and cdrom1 --> dvdrom
[01:17] <a2xm> ic56: the directory right?
[01:17] <a2xm> ic56: on /media
[01:17] <piwi> RvGaTe: yes I am also having an unanswered question
[01:18] <xarq> piwi: maybe if it was more specific you'd get an answer
[01:18] <Sonicdh> hey, i'm back
[01:18] <piwi> xarq: I did my best but Im not very litterate with ubuntu :S
[01:19] <acuster> does the ubuntu installer resize existing HFS+ partitions?
[01:19] <piwi> xarq: basically the icons such as CDROM My Computer etc have all disappeared off my desktop with no reason... and GAIM doesn't work, it closes at launch
[01:20] <xarq> piwi: is the gaim process still running after it closes?
[01:20] <xarq> piwi: also, it nautilus still running?
[01:20] <ic56> a2xm: this doesn't make sense. You say you renamed cdrom1 to dvdrom.  Yet, dvdrom is a symlink pointint to cdrom0.  I find it unlikely that the installer would have created an /media/cdrom1 entry that would be a symlink to a /media/cdrom0 directory.  You must have changed other stuff too
[01:21] <RvGaTe> piwi, if i dont get an answer today, ill be switching to debian, becouse i can't install ubuntu
[01:21] <bagpuss_thecat> any takes on how to fix this fixed font error? :-p
[01:21] <a2xm> ic56: ok ok ... so how is it? i just don't understand ;-)
[01:21] <a2xm> ic56: just try to make it seem nice to read ;-)
[01:22] <XVampireX> RvGaTe, no one is forcing you to use ubuntu
[01:22] <a2xm> ic56: how to fix the symlink?
[01:22] <Sonicdh> you ubuntu seems a tad on the graphics heavy side.
[01:22] <cypher1> RvGaTe, what are the I/O errors ? can you paste it..
[01:23] <Sonicdh> anyone know the sys reqs for it?
[01:23] <xarq> RvGaTe: yay, more users for debian
[01:23] <RvGaTe> XVampireX, well, without being able to install ubuntu and getting any support, there isn't really a choice is there?
[01:23] <cypher1> a2xm, fix the symlink ?
[01:23] <RvGaTe> brb
[01:23] <XVampireX> RvGaTe, I guess :-/
[01:24] <Sonicdh> Does anyone know the System requirements for ubuntu?
[01:24] <orn72> My ATI card won't let me start the dappy installer, any ideas?
[01:24] <ic56> a2xm: Let's try a shot in the dark: sudo rm -f /media/dvdrom ; sudo mkdir /media/dvdrom
[01:24] <Sonicdh> because it seems a bit graphics heavy
[01:24] <XVampireX> RvGaTe, someone just asked you something trying to help...
[01:24] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, 6.06 lts graphical installation?
[01:24] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, yes
[01:25] <ic56> a2xm: this sets you up with mount points that match your fstab entries.  Nevertheless, these are non-standard and other things in Ubuntu may end up being broken.
[01:25] <RvGaTe> cypher1, cant recall the error, but it hangs at "setting up keyboard"
[01:25] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, what kind of keyboard do you have then?
[01:26] <RvGaTe> cypher1, after hanging for 2minutes, it gives me a black screen, where every xxseconds gives me i/o errors
[01:26] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, basic logitec one
[01:26] <RvGaTe> +h
[01:26] <XiXaQ> desktop?
[01:26] <bbrazil> morphix: oh?
[01:26] <a2xm> ic56: ok.. and then..?
[01:26] <syndicate47> i'm using gnome and my conky works fine if i run it manually. however, if i run it using "Sessions" it gets drawn to some part of the desktop that is behind the wallpaper. can anyone help me?
[01:26] <cypher1> RvGaTe, sorry to me it looks vague..
[01:26] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, Logitech Internet Pro keyboard
[01:26] <salah> !restrictedformats
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:27] <RvGaTe> cypher1, same here really...
[01:27] <a2xm> ic56: i've try to rm /media/dvdrom before but always failed
[01:27] <cypher1> RvGaTe, search in forums/google.. you may find some solutions if somebody has already hit it
[01:27] <ic56> a2xm: try putting a disk in your DVDROM.  Does it automount?
[01:27] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, have any screenshots or logs?
[01:27] <ic56> a2xm: but this time you succeeded in removing /media/dvdrom, right?
[01:27] <a2xm> ic56: do i've to logout first? i just try it, and nothing...
[01:28] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, its at the installation, no logs are created and i cant do a screencap
[01:28] <ic56> a2xm: no logout, no reboot needed.
[01:28] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, why?
[01:28] <bbrazil> morphix: PCI is setup so you don't have to/can't change IRQs
[01:28] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, becouse its trying to initiate the installation
[01:28] <a2xm> ic56: yes, it was remove and make the new one successfuly
[01:28] <bbrazil> morphix: go into your BIOS, there should be something to clear that inofrmation
[01:28] <ic56> a2xm: yea, so the auto-mounting isn't working.  Let's try manually mounting.  Like so:
[01:28] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, yes, and? You have the system up and running from the cd, right?
[01:28] <ic56> a2xm: sudo mount /media/dvdrom
[01:29] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, no, its not up and running, its giving me i/o errors
[01:29] <ic56> a2xm: did the disk become visible now?
[01:29] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, before it starts the installation
[01:29] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, I thought you said the installation gave you the errors?
[01:29] <a2xm> ic56: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd,
[01:29] <a2xm>        missing codepage or other error
[01:29] <a2xm>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:29] <a2xm>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:30] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, original question started of with:  "I cant start the installation ...."
[01:30] <cypher1> RvGaTe, is the same errors happening while using a live cd environment ?
[01:30] <RvGaTe> cypher1, cant boot the livecd version either
[01:30] <cypher1> RvGaTe, same error ?
[01:30] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, I asked you if you were using the graphical installation, and you said yes. that means you have ubuntu up and running from the live cd.
[01:31] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, tell me. Where from did you get the cd? What's it name and creation date?
[01:31] <a2xm> ic56:  when i try it w/o sudo, it said: mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdd is already mounted on /media/dvdrom
[01:31] <a2xm> mount failed
[01:31] <ic56> a2xm: mmm, and you inserted a normal ISO disk, right?  Not a music CD, right?
[01:31] <xarq> XiXaQ: I guess in his case it means he *wants* to use the graphical installation
[01:31] <RvGaTe> cypher1, i dont know, it stopped loading (loading bar + logo), took to long imo, and i rebooted into windows
[01:31] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, booting from the cd may take a while..
[01:31] <a2xm> ic56: i inserted a dvd-rw disc
[01:32] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, not 15min... :)
[01:32] <ic56> a2xm: a blank one or one with a burned image?
[01:32] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, depends. Takes 5-10 here I think.
[01:32] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, have you checked the cd for errors?
[01:32] <xarq> RvGaTe: what is the processor speed of your machine?
[01:33] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, yes i check it, no errors found
[01:33] <cypher1> RvGaTe, where did it get stuck.. sometimes you may need to do ctrl-c.. like while syncing clock with ntp server etc
[01:33] <sysKin> ;_; dns still resolves all hosts to 1.0.0.0 ;_;
[01:33] <RvGaTe> xarq, amd 2400+, running at 2.2 ghz
[01:33] <cypher1> RvGaTe, which may take sometime if your network is not fast or reliable
[01:33] <RvGaTe> cypher1, i tried, but didn't do anthing
[01:34] <RvGaTe> cypher1, no problems with the network here
[01:34] <cypher1> RvGaTe, is it a dapper cd ?
[01:34] <a2xm> ic56: can not... dvd-rw with data & dvd-r with data on it
[01:34] <RvGaTe> cypher1, let me check
[01:35] <RvGaTe> cypher1, yes, dapper
[01:36] <cypher1> RvGaTe, it would be great if the message was captured
[01:37] <RvGaTe> cypher1, i could try it again and write it down
[01:37] <RvGaTe> cypher1, itl take a few mnutes
[01:37] <RvGaTe> brb
[01:38] <a2xm> ic56: wait
[01:38] <ic56> a2xm: this is messy. The reasonable choice didn't work.  It will take hours to figure out over IRC what your fstab was before you deleted it and to guide you through reconstructing it and restoring the filesystem to what it was before you started messing with it.  Sorry, but I've already spent an hour on this and I'm tired.  I recommend re-installing or finding someone else with lots of time.  Good luck!
[01:39] <finalbeta> Is is possible to get crossfading in Rhythmbox? (if not I need a descent player)
[01:39] <SDwolfcody> good morning -- how do i make the update manager upgrade me from breezy to dapper?
[01:40] <cypher1> SDwolfcody, i guess 'sudo update-manager -d' should do
[01:40] <a2xm> ic56: wait.. i forgot to copy back the fstab
[01:40] <SDwolfcody> cool - -it had a button on it last night but i didnt want to do it then and now the button is gone :)
[01:40] <a2xm> ic56: so now how to refresh it
[01:40] <ic56> a2xm: copy back?
[01:40] <piwi> xarq: sorry incoming phone call
[01:40] <bbrazil> finalbeta: xmms has that feature
[01:41] <piwi> xarq:  I dont know how to check if nautilus is running nor if gaim process exited or not
[01:41] <tufsy> hi
[01:41] <tufsy> i am new to linux, can someone tell me how i get my bluetooth headset to work with my laptop?
[01:42] <tufsy> and how do i know if ubuntu has installed the correct sound drivers for my laptop?
[01:42] <tufsy> pleaee
[01:42] <bimberi> !bluetooth
[01:42] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:42] <tufsy> cool
[01:42] <bimberi> tufsy: hopefully something there will get you going :)
[01:43] <tufsy> thanks
[01:43] <Mofo> im installing ubuntu 6
[01:43] <XiXaQ> Mofo, good for you. :)
[01:44] <finalbeta> bbrazil, thnx. I'll try, hopefully I can make it look a little like Rhythmbox, don't like the winamp look, not handy
[01:44] <Mofo> but when it comes on 2nd step, setting time my pc hang on this step
[01:44] <tufsy> how do i confirm my speakers are being fully utilised? cos i got a dell inspiron 9400 and its got a sub-woofer speaker - which i dont think is being used properly, how can i check?
[01:44] <a2xm> ic56: ha ha ha... it works just fine now
[01:44] <a2xm> ic56: thanks very much
[01:44] <Mofo> but when it comes on 2nd step, setting time my pc hang on this step
[01:45] <a2xm> ic56: i'm sorry, i forgot to copy back the last fstab ;-)
[01:45] <ic56> a2xm: ok, if it works, then it's time to update your entries for your windows filesystems.
[01:45] <Gasten> Do anyone know how to open a *.run file?
[01:46] <Mofo> so any one helping me out
[01:46] <a2xm> ic56: yes, i just wanna auto mount 3 of them
[01:46] <XiXaQ> Gasten, what is it supposed to contain?
[01:46] <Gasten> XiXaQ: An installer.
[01:46] <Mofo> i having problem to install ubuntu 6, i stuck on 2nd step (time setting)
[01:46] <bbrazil> Gasten: I imagine you're meant to execute it ./name.run
[01:46] <Gasten> XiXaQ: Of a game.
[01:46] <XiXaQ> Gasten, perhaps you should try ./file.run ?
[01:47] <Gasten> trying...
[01:47] <TARZEAU> Gasten: sh the.run
[01:47] <ic56> a2xm: oops, forget that sudo sfdisk I posted -- that was an accident
[01:47] <a2xm> ic56: actualy it works already, but the name wasn't the same with in the fstab
[01:47] <gharz> is there a chinese input support in ubuntu?
[01:47] <gharz> i'm using gnome
[01:47] <XiXaQ> gharz, check System > Preferences > keyboard
[01:47] <a2xm> ic56: sudo fdisk? which one? i didn't see it
[01:47] <ic56> a2xm: use the -b option when running the script.  It will create a backup of your current fstab
[01:48] <a2xm> ic56: sorry, what was that? -b option for what?
[01:48] <lasseaw> Mofo: have you tryied skipping the install from Live?
[01:48] <Mofo> hello, im having problem to install ubuntu
[01:48] <Gasten> Wow TARZEAU!! Thanks!
[01:48] <Gasten> It worked!
[01:48] <gharz> too bad there's none :(
[01:48] <lasseaw> Mofo: installing from none-live?
[01:48] <[rick] > hm
[01:48] <[rick] > anyone having repository issues?
[01:49] <ic56> a2xm: you didn't seem my posts about diskmounter?!
[01:49] <[rick] > its only the last few for me
[01:49] <Mofo> lasseaw , im installing from the cds i got from ubuntu
[01:49] <TARZEAU> Gasten: you're welcome
[01:49] <XiXaQ> Mofo, version?
[01:49] <lasseaw> i gotta go now but i think someone will find an easy solution to your problem.
[01:49] <Mofo> lasseaw , installing from live and when it comes to 2nd step (time setting) it just stuck there and my cd rom keep reading
[01:50] <Mofo> 6.06 lts
[01:50] <XiXaQ> Mofo, then let it run. It may take a while.
[01:50] <a2xm> ic56: nope, just now or long time ago?
[01:50] <kakashi4523> can somebody please tell me how to disable SHIFT+BACKSPACE restating X ?
[01:50] <ic56> a2xm: 5 secs ago now.  Ok, here goes again:
[01:50] <Mofo> i tried many time, but stop on 2nd step and my cd rom keep reading the cd
[01:50] <XiXaQ> Mofo, it's probably trying to connect to a ntp service. Is your network up and running?
[01:50] <Mofo> but no movement.
[01:51] <draconius> kakashi4523: i dont know off the top of my head, but you can look on the Xorg website FAQ and they tell you how
[01:51] <ic56> a2xm: see them now?
[01:51] <bbrazil> kakashi4523: "dontzap" setting or something in the x config
[01:51] <dpn> kakashi its: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"
[01:51] <Mofo> i dont have network, i use dialup
[01:51] <winman> is there a world time applet sort of thing, which could sit on one of my panels and tell time about places I choose?
[01:51] <a2xm> ic56: what was that? didn't see anyting
[01:52] <a2xm> ic56: try PM?
[01:52] <wendel> Just insatalled ubuntu 6.06, wireless nice etc using WEP, Im getting really long ping response times, they are very sporadic, any ideas how I can sort this or is it network dependant??
[01:52] <Mofo> is there anyway to install ubuntu from none live cd
[01:52] <XiXaQ> Mofo, how long have you waited?
[01:52] <ic56> a2xm: your irc client might be blocking long messages.  Here goes PM
[01:52] <Mofo> XiXaQ i have waited about 20 mins and 30 mins
[01:52] <ic56> a2xm: point your browser to http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[01:53] <ic56> a2xm: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[01:53] <bbrazil> ic56: freenode blocks pms from unregisterd users by default
[01:53] <poje> Does anyone have an opinion on xgl vs aiglx?
[01:53] <ic56> a2xm: oh, never mind, I forgot the -out flag to exec.  presumably you saw teh posts now
[01:53] <wendel> on ubuntu, firefox takes ages to load any page! when i try a big dload im getting 360Kbs+, whats up with that??
[01:53] <ic56> bbrazil: thx, I know.  I'm registered
[01:54] <dpn> firefox never works good for me
[01:54] <XiXaQ> wendel, is that good or bad?
[01:54] <wendel> dpn, what you use as alternative??
[01:54] <dpn> Opera is what I use
[01:54] <a2xm> ic56:  ok, let me try
[01:54] <ompaul> wendel, dpn type in the address bar "about:config"  tell me when that is done
[01:54] <wendel> XiXaQ, its ok for 3MB line, firefox is really Sloooooooow!
[01:54] <Mofo> so what i have to do now, i want to avoid this 2nd step and want to jump on another step so i can install ubuntu
[01:54] <bbrazil> wendel: have you tried disabling ipv6?
[01:55] <wendel> ompaul, done
[01:55] <heretician> After I.. uninstall ubuntu, install wxp, reinstall ubuntu... will GIMP boot up automatically everytime i restart my computer?
[01:55] <kakashi4523> @dpn. do i just type xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server into the console or do i add it into the xorg.conf ?
[01:55] <wendel> bbrazil, no how do i do that?
[01:55] <ompaul> bbrazil, I will talk him though that now
[01:55] <bbrazil> wendel: ompaul will explain to you
[01:55] <ic56> a2xm: DON'T FORGET: use the -b option when running the script.  It will create a backup of your current fstab.  NEVER just blindly delete config files when you don't know what you're doing.  Make a backup, so you can restore things if you break them
[01:55] <ompaul> wendel, dpn type "ipv6" in the filter bar
[01:55] <wendel> ok
[01:56] <ompaul> then click on the word true
[01:56] <wendel> default boolean false
[01:56] <wendel> is what i have
[01:56] <ompaul> wendel,  it will change to false, close it
[01:56] <wendel> it is false
[01:56] <[rick] > has anyone experienced problems with airsnort crashing after it has been running for about 2+ days?
[01:56] <ompaul> wendel, then you have some other issue
[01:56] <wendel> ompaul, sorry, do i want to make it true?
[01:57] <ompaul> wendel, no you need it to be false
[01:57] <XiXaQ> a2xm, or, if you're just curious and trying things out, you can use the live-cd :)
[01:57] <dpn> Firefox just generally feels unresponsive and bloaty to me, I've never liked it
[01:57] <wendel> ompaul, ok
[01:57] <ompaul> wendel, sorry make it true
[01:57] <dpn> And it tries to emulate operas default UI, whats that tell you
[01:57] <XiXaQ> dpn, what?
 is there a non-command line way of logging on a bluetooth device?
[01:57] <Mofo> anyone helping me, i stuck on 2nd step
[01:57] <fm> hi
[01:58] <ompaul> wendel, then you put in a web page it should improve speed
[01:58] <bimberi> tufsy: sorry, no idea, i only knew about the wikipage :|
[01:58] <XiXaQ> dpn, firefox doesn't even vaguely resemble operas gui.
[01:58] <tufsy> ok, anyone else know
[01:58] <heretician> How do you set the homepage for Firefox? I swear there is something missing from the "Tools" tab
[01:58] <dpn> Yes it does
[01:58] <dpn> Default isntalltion is identical
[01:58] <XiXaQ> dpn, what a load of rubbish.
[01:58] <fm> I have a samba share on my ubuntu box. Windows XP sees it perfectly, but some file names are truncated, I don't know why. This is not due to special characters, as they all appear correctly. Do you know where my problem could come from?
[01:59] <wendel> ompaul, ok I have: user set boolean true
[01:59] <dpn> I just installed firefox want a screenshot
[01:59] <XiXaQ> dpn, sure.
[01:59] <Polarina> Hello.
[01:59] <ompaul> wendel, put in a different url - www.bbc.co.uk ?
[01:59] <dpn> The only difference is the tab and navigation controls are in reveresed positions
[01:59] <heretician> Graphical-wise it is identical
[01:59] <RvGaTe> cypher1, back, i waited untill i thought it stopped doing anything, took my camera, and took a picture... (uploading it)
[01:59] <ion> guys how can I remove the new version of unbuntu because my pc used work fine is awful...
[01:59] <heretician> Cept for the color and some icons
[02:00] <Mofo> hello im here for long time no one is helping me what fuck is goin on?
[02:00] <bimberi> !language
[02:00] <XiXaQ> Mofo, don't curse.
[02:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:00] <poje> !ati >poje
[02:00] <Mofo> so in good manners, please help me out or say something we can't help you.
[02:00] <a2xm> ic56:  but some of my windows partisions already mounted just and on fstab already.. this script doesn't ruin it?
[02:00] <ompaul> Mofo, mind your language you are not expressing your quesiton in a fashion - Second step define second step I told you that in another channel expalin what you ant
[02:00] <RvGaTe> cypher1, http://www.rvgate.nl/fotos/100_3011.JPG
[02:00] <wendel> ompaul, still slow..im getting long response times when pinging, what can I do to sort that?
[02:00] <Sputn1k> hello, how to change character encoding in gnome terminal not for once?
[02:01] <Mofo> ompaul i told my question to XiXaQ,
[02:01] <Mofo> ompaul let me tell you as well.
[02:01] <XiXaQ> Mofo, there are 796 clients connected to this channel right now. Do you want everyone who don't have anything to say to send you a pm Sorry, can't help you?
[02:01] <Polarina> What install system does Ubuntu use? emerge, yum, apt-get.......
[02:01] <kakashi> i typed   xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server" but it did not stop  shift+backspace from killing X. what am i doing wrong?
[02:01] <ic56> a2xm: yes, it ruins it. But if you use the -b flag, it will first make a backup copy of your /etc/fstab .  So, if the new setup proves problematic, you can just go back to the old one.
[02:01] <heretician> 797.
[02:01] <heretician> I was too slow ;/
[02:01] <ompaul> wendel, that is not good - but that seems to be not a firefox issue
[02:01] <Mofo> ompaul, im installing ubuntu from the live cd but unfortunately on the 2nd step (time setting) my cd rom keep reading the cd but no movement
[02:01] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, in case you didn't notice: http://www.rvgate.nl/fotos/100_3011.JPG
[02:02] <ion> guys please how can I came back again to my old version...
[02:02] <wendel> ompaul, whos your ISP?
[02:02] <ompaul> Mofo, as I have to do an install let me catch up with you
[02:02] <nemesis> this is REALLY annoying, a gigabit nic i installed.. under ubuntu.. it detects installs, etc.. but there are IRQ 11 problems
[02:02] <ompaul> wendel, not eircom that is for sure :-)
[02:02] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, hdc is a harddrive or a cdrom...
[02:02] <nemesis> BUT i am in knoppix atm (with a 2.4.x kernel) and the NIC is working perfect
[02:03] <ompaul> wendel, (shhh btinternet)
[02:03] <Mofo> ompaul, some body told me your pc hangs because 2nd step connecting to ntp etc..
[02:03] <wendel> ompaul, scumbag..British Telecom
[02:03] <Polarina> What install system does Ubuntu use? emerge, yum, apt-get.......
[02:03] <nemesis> Polarina, apt-get
[02:03] <bbrazil> Polarina: apt
[02:03] <heretician> Disconnect it from the internet maybe, Mofo?
[02:03] <Polarina> Thanks.
[02:03] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, gotta be a cdrom then, i only have 2 hd's
[02:03] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, I suggest you get another cd. It looks like its faulty.
[02:03] <wendel> is opera available in the repos??
[02:03] <wendel> cant seem to see it..
[02:03] <ompaul> wendel, ehh cheaper telecom  I spent 20 years working for that other crowd - and less of the language thanks
[02:04] <joycetick> If i install the XFCE desktop is it easy to switch back to gnome?
[02:04] <Mofo> heretician look i dont have internet, when im installing ubuntu
[02:04] <XiXaQ> wendel, it's available in .deb for Ubuntu from www.opera.no
[02:04] <dpn> Yeah let me get the repo for you wendel
[02:04] <bbrazil> joycetick: yes
[02:04] <Mofo> heretician, my pc hangs on the installing 2nd step (time setting, country setting)
[02:04] <wendel> ompaul, eircomedy
[02:05] <ompaul> wendel, we chat in #ubuntu-offotpic this one is strictly (supposedly) support
[02:05] <heretician> Mofo: Iunno.. I'm still a newb at Ubuntu aswell :P
[02:05] <wendel> is opera in the repos??
[02:05] <joycetick> bbrazil: so like none of my settings will change my installing XFCE
[02:05] <nemesis> wendel, yes
[02:05] <Polarina> Is it possible to manually partition my harddrive during Ubuntu installation?
[02:05] <ompaul> Mofo, did you check the CD for defects?
[02:05] <Mofo> heretician, Okay bro. im not new user of ubuntu but this version really create a problem for me.
[02:05] <bbrazil> joycetick: they settings should be kept seperate
[02:05] <ion> come on guys how can I do that....I wanna my old breezy back....
[02:05] <Mofo> ompaul , yea i check but 0 defects found.
[02:05] <bbrazil> Polarina: yes
[02:05] <joycetick> bbrazil: ahh cool, thanks
[02:06] <wendel> is opera in the repos??
[02:06] <XiXaQ> wendel, yes!
[02:06] <Polarina> bbrazil, could you tell me how?
[02:06] <wendel> XiXaQ, under what :-)
[02:06] <bbrazil> Polarina: its' the 5th or 6th step iirc
[02:06] <XiXaQ> wendel, how many times do you need an answer to that question? It's named 'opera'.
[02:06] <ompaul> Mofo, are you going to answer my question, what way did you try to install?
[02:07] <Polarina> bbrazil, thanks alot. Going to change to ubuntu from gentoo. :)
[02:07] <a2xm> ic56:  should I try the NTFS writing?
[02:07] <Mofo> ompaul, i just boot cd and follow the 1 option
[02:07] <ompaul> Mofo, thank you one moment
[02:07] <ion> now I understand why Mofo was so upset...
[02:08] <XiXaQ> ion, why is that+
[02:08] <Hoxzer> :( me too he just wanted to get girl ONLY a giirl but was not given it
[02:08] <ic56> a2xm: no to NTFS writing.  You didn't have it enabled in your old fstab and we've discovered, since writting this version of the script, that it's still broken.  The version after this one will remove the option again.
[02:08] <tom12519> Hey guys, I have a USB mass storage device not being detected, any help?
[02:08] <Mofo> ion how..
[02:08] <ion> XiXaQ: I just wanna go bacck to my old system...breezy...
[02:09] <Mofo> ompaul, when prompted to configure time zone. my pc stop here on this 2nd  step.
[02:09] <sysKin> ok question: I'd like a desktop "shortcut" to a folder in SMB drive, but I don't seem to find the way
[02:09] <ompaul> tom12519, plug it out and and plug it in again and check on your desktop for an icon relating to it
[02:09] <someothernick> ion: why? whats wrong? explain the problem.
[02:09] <ion> XiXaQ: I'd done upgrade and nothing works properly now...is nightmare
[02:09] <lucas> whats scrollkeeper-up, and why is it using lots of cpu, and is it safe to kill it?
[02:09] <ompaul> Mofo, I an waiting on this box beside me
[02:09] <tom12519> ompaul, that did nothing
[02:10] <Mofo> did you read my another msg
[02:10] <Mofo> ompaul, when prompted to configure time zone. my pc stop here on this 2nd  step.
[02:10] <ompaul> Mofo, yes I have just booted this machine I am going to install on - please await
[02:10] <Mofo> ompaul, ok.
[02:11] <wendel> XiXaQ, What repo is opera in, I cant find it in synaptic
[02:11] <ompaul> Mofo, so click on the map whereever you are close to
[02:11] <Polarina> Kubuntu or ubuntu. What should I get? :)
[02:11] <ompaul> Mofo,  get your timezone right and then click on forward
[02:11] <ion> XiXaQ: please help me...
[02:11] <Mofo> ompaul, i can't click because the computer loading files. the mouse move very slowly
[02:11] <ompaul> tom12519, it is usb try every usb port on the machine
[02:12] <Mofo> ompaul, my cd rom keep reading data from disk.
[02:12] <dpn> wendel its deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ etch non-free
[02:12] <XiXaQ> wendel, probably in restricted.
[02:12] <ompaul> Mofo, what speed is the cpu machine, what type is it, what size is the ram, and the hard drive?
[02:12] <XiXaQ> ion, will if I can.
[02:12] <bimberi> !info opera
[02:12] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in dapper
[02:12] <poje> Could anyone help troubleshoot why installation of the ati driver got botched?
[02:12] <Polarina> Kubuntu or ubuntu. What should I get? :)
[02:12] <ion> Polarina: come this is easy one is kde and other is gnome
[02:12] <nlindblad> Polarina: Kubuntu
[02:13] <Baou> Polarina : It depends on your kind of use
[02:13] <dpn> Just download it from opera.com if you can't find it in the repos
[02:13] <Mofo> ompaul, its Dell Optiplex GX1. 600 Mhz Processor, 192mb of ram , 40 gb hard. Sony Dvd rom
[02:13] <atropos> hi all
[02:13] <ompaul> Mofo, okay the bad news is this it will take a long time for ubuntu to install on that
[02:13] <Polarina> I know that, I like KDE, but I like GNOME too..... I just cant decide myself what to get.
[02:13] <bbrazil> hmm, thats a heavily upgraded GX1
[02:13] <atropos> how to install a bin file?
[02:14] <Baou> Polarina : Gnome is not as heavy as KDE
[02:14] <tom12519> atropos, chmod +x it, then jsut ./filename
[02:14] <atropos> thanks tom12519
[02:14] <need_help> hi
[02:14] <ion> Polarina: so the only one system which I sure you can get both in the same desktop is FreeBSD.
[02:14] <Mofo> ompaul, its okay it can take long time to install i dont mind, but why its going very slow on the 2nd step where we set timezone.
[02:14] <tom12519> ompaul, still nothing, the gp2x just won't register
[02:14] <Polarina> I have a good computer here...
[02:14] <need_help> Is there any reason why my web browser won't upload a 29kb png image to my site (with a http upload form)?
[02:15] <XiXaQ> Polarina, I think KDE (Kubuntu) is prettier than Gnome (Ubuntu). I like Gnome better though. download both cds and run them in live mode for a while. See which you prefer. All software is available in both distros.
[02:15] <Mofo> ompaul, will you tell me the system requirements for the ubuntu.
[02:15] <nlindblad> my workflow is like 300% higher in KDE
[02:15] <ompaul> tom12519, then I suggest that you try a reboot - the USB bus may have trashed itself (it happens in rare cases now and again) start
[02:15] <a2xm> ic56: maybe i've to delete all the naming partitions on my /media first eh?
[02:15] <ompaul> Mofo, is that a P1 ?
[02:15] <tom12519> ompaul, tried a restart already, with the device connected, too, nothing.
[02:15] <Mofo> ompaul, no man com'on its p3 :)
[02:16] <need_help> tim12519: What's the problem?
[02:16] <ic56> a2xm: no deletion necessary.  We'll rename things to what you had in your fstab after.
[02:16] <a2xm> ic56:  and run the script again?
[02:16] <need_help> tom12519: What's the problem?
[02:16] <Mofo> ompaul, 5.10 breezy was working fine on it.
[02:16] <ic56> a2xm: only run the script once, then we'll manually adjust
[02:16] <a2xm> ic56:  in my fstab after?
[02:16] <tom12519> need_help, I connect my GP2X on USB mode, and *nothin* is registered, no storage device or anything
[02:16] <ic56> a2xm: yes
[02:16] <Polarina> Ok, thanks for all the help! :D
[02:16] <need_help> I had that problem
[02:16] <Mofo> ompaul, i used suse 9.2 on the same computer. it work fine
[02:17] <ompaul> Mofo, there is an option to check the media on boot up for dapper try that and check that the cd is okay
[02:17] <need_help> Linux wouldn't auto mount my USB hard drive - I ended up re-installing Linux
[02:17] <a2xm> ic56:  i've run it
[02:17] <someothernick> ion: no. Polarina you can install ubuntu then install kde from repos then you will be able to pick from gnome or kde at login screen
[02:17] <bimberi> wendel: Applications -> Add/Remove,  you'll find Opera there if "Show commercial applications" is checked
[02:17] <ion> guys how can I have my breezy again how can I get red of LTS or whatever....
[02:17] <a2xm> ic56:  and some of my min partisions are gone now
[02:17] <a2xm> ic56:  my win
[02:17] <Mofo> ompaul, cd is okay even i downloaded from ubuntu website for making sure i got the correct cds but same problem. maybe i need to upgrade my pc
[02:17] <bimberi> ion: downgrading means reinstalling i'm afraid
[02:17] <bbrazil> ion: apt doesn't support downgrading. you'd have to reinstall practically speaking
[02:18] <ic56> a2xm: ok, which editor do you normally use in Ubuntu?
[02:18] <ompaul> Mofo,  if you can it will help - try the xubuntu CD first
[02:18] <a2xm> ic56:  and i wanna change the name from ie. hdb7 to windows
[02:18] <ion> someothernick: really I didn't know that....
[02:18] <ompaul> Mofo,  #xubuntu is its channel
[02:18] <a2xm> gedit
[02:18] <Mofo> ok
[02:18] <ic56> a2xm: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:18] <ion> someothernick: so you think you can help ?
[02:19] <someothernick> ion: reinstall breezy
[02:19] <ic56> a2xm: now change /media/hda1 to /media/windows  Similarly hda2-->data and hdb7-->riyanto2
[02:19] <ion> someothernick: what how about my foles ?
[02:19] <someothernick> ion: back up
[02:19] <ion> someothernick: I mean my files...
[02:20] <ic56> a2xm: I assume all 3 of these were a moment ago mounted under these names.  Right?
[02:20] <ion> someothernick: oh no too much hastle.....
[02:20] <bimberi> back them up too
[02:20] <nikolas> hello
[02:20] <someothernick> lol
[02:20] <tom12519> need_help so nothign else solved it?
[02:20] <need_help> tom12519: I never found an answer
[02:20] <someothernick> ion: why not try to fix the problen
[02:20] <nikolas> I have a bit of a problem... Ubuntu says that my hdd is read-only and I can't change that...
[02:21] <bbrazil> nikolas: which hdd?
[02:21] <nikolas> hda1
[02:21] <nikolas> -1
[02:21] <a2xm> ic56:  right.. wait
[02:21] <ion> someothernick: good idea ever my shell doesn't work well....
[02:21] <bbrazil> nikolas: what fielsystem is it?
[02:21] <XiXaQ> nikolas, what kind of filesystem?
[02:21] <nikolas> ext3
[02:21] <ion> someothernick: how can I do that...
[02:21] <bbrazil> nikolas: check dmseg - why did it become read-only?
[02:21] <bbrazil> nikolas: *dmesg
[02:22] <someothernick> ion: i would just backup and do a clean install of breezy
[02:22] <sijmen> I've got a strange problem: to install mediawiki, I had to install php5 and php5-mysql. I did so, and mediawiki works great. However, my Wordpress blog stopped working, telling me it mysql for PHP isn't there
[02:22] <a2xm> ic56:  how about the partitions that i dont wanna mount it?
[02:22] <sijmen> Also, I can't find any mysql info in phpinfo(), so that makes me wonder how mediawiki still works
[02:22] <sijmen> See for yourself: http://a404.net/blog http://a404.net/europae/mediawiki
[02:22] <sijmen> How can this be?
[02:22] <tom12519> Does anybody here *have* a GP2X?
[02:22] <nikolas> dmesg says something about ETX3-fs errors...
[02:23] <bbrazil> sijmen: php5 does have sqlite, but I doubt it's that
[02:23] <bbrazil> sijmen: try installing php4 and php4-mysql
[02:23] <ion> someothernick:you mean format my HD and to it again ... ? :(
[02:23] <ic56> a2xm: why would you not want to mount fixed disk partitions?  There are valid reasons but a newbie doesn't usually have these reasons.
[02:23] <nikolas> Unable to read inode block
[02:23] <nikolas> and stuff
[02:23] <sijmen> bbrazil: mediawiki requires php5 :|
[02:23] <bbrazil> nikolas: lots of errors?
[02:23] <sijmen> And it does use the MySQL database
[02:23] <bbrazil> sijmen: it runs fine on php4
[02:23] <DaveyJ> are there drivers for quickcams?
[02:23] <someothernick> ion: did you do a dist upgrade?
[02:24] <bbrazil> sijmen: in fact I'm running 3 mediawikis on php4
[02:24] <sijmen> Eh?
[02:24] <ompaul> bbrazil, and one of them is on ubuntu that I know of :-)
[02:24] <sijmen> The Mediawiki installation aborted telling me to upgrade to PHP 5, which I then did
[02:24] <bbrazil> ompaul: one breezy, one dapper and one soalris8
[02:24] <nikolas> A couple... two that start with ETX3-fs error, one that says Uncorrectable error, and one with DriveReady SeekComplete Error
[02:24] <bbrazil> sijmen: what version of mediawiki?
[02:25] <bbrazil> nikolas: your hard drive is dying
[02:25] <sijmen> The latest stable version, let me see
[02:25] <ion> someothernick:yeah that's what I'm seeing doesn't work properly at the end I got some stupid error
[02:25] <nikolas> bbrazil, :/
[02:25] <bbrazil> nikolas: get all your data off it and replace it
[02:25] <brrrt> hello all
[02:25] <a2xm> ic56:  because that partitions are on different phisical disk. and i just dont wanna mount it ;-)
[02:26] <sijmen> bbrazil: 1.7.4
[02:26] <sijmen> *1.7.1
[02:26] <nikolas> bbrazil, okay, I guess that's what I'll have to do then... Thanks for your help
[02:26] <ic56> a2xm: not a good reason.  But if that is what you really want, remove the "auto" flag from the corresponding entries in /etc/fstab
[02:27] <bbrazil> nikolas: I've got 1.6.7 on 4.4.1 anyway
[02:27] <ic56> a2xm: are you done playing?  I need to wrap this up
[02:27] <a2xm> ic56: yes yes... and then what
[02:28] <ic56> a2xm: you didn't answer my question:
[02:28] <nikolas> bbrazil: Huh? 1.6.7? 4.4.1?
[02:28] <ic56> a2xm: I assume all 3 of these were a moment ago mounted under these names.  Right?
[02:28] <sijmen> bbrazil: got it working
[02:28] <a2xm> ic56:  yes, i did answer it
[02:28] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, looks like my dvd-burner died...
[02:28] <RvGaTe> XiXaQ, cant burn a cd anymore... :S
[02:28] <ion> someothernick:right I gonna see what I can do thanks for you help....
[02:28] <sijmen> The installation of php5 or php5-mysql did something to /etc/php/php4/php.ini, mysql was commented out.
[02:29] <bbrazil> nikolas: sorry, meant for sijmen
[02:29] <XiXaQ> RvGaTe, well then, there's your problem. :)
[02:29] <nikolas> I see
[02:29] <nikolas> Anyway... I'll go hunt down a new hdd
[02:30] <ic56> a2xm: if you did answer it, you didn't do so with sufficient clarity for me to recognize it as an answer to that question.  Please answer again and do so unambiguously.
[02:32] <dpn> http://digg.com/linux_unix/NTFS-3G_-_Full_NTFS_read_write_support_for_Linux
[02:32] <dpn> Anyone tried this yet?
[02:33] <sysKin> hey it's a bit more silent :]  lemme ask my n00b question again:
[02:33] <sysKin> I'd like a desktop "shortcut" to a folder in SMB drive, but I don't seem to find a way
[02:34] <Seveas> dpn, let's wait for a month or two so the author can return from his vacation and fix bugs
[02:34] <dpn> I hope its as good as it sounds
[02:34] <longkerdandy> hi guys, what does "lrm" means from df command
[02:34] <a2xm> ic56:  yes, you're right. all 3 of those were mounted under those names.
[02:35] <Seveas> dpn, lrm is a filesystem type
[02:35] <a2xm> ic56:  i've save it and..
[02:35] <dpn> longkerdandy you mean :o
[02:35] <Seveas> longkerdandy, lrm/varrun/varlock/udev/devshm are all in-memory filesystems
[02:35] <brrrt> i have problem getting a brandnew via_rhine nw-card to work
[02:35] <Seveas> dpn, yes indeed
[02:36] <brrrt> it works with the live cd but not with installed ubuntu
[02:36] <ic56> a2xm: good.  Now: sudo umount /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 /dev/hdb7; sudo mount -a  Any errors?
[02:36] <longkerdandy> in-memory , ah, i see
[02:36] <longkerdandy> thanks guys
[02:36] <void^> lrm = linux-restricted-modules
[02:37] <void^> personally i think it's a way to prove swap space is useful ;)
[02:37] <LMJ> hello the chan
[02:37] <brrrt> the modules which are loaded are the same with live or installed version, but on the installed system the network card doesnt work, how can this be?
[02:40] <a2xm> ic56:  wait, after i run the script, i got these: Backup copy '/etc/fstab.old.1152965132' created.
[02:40] <a2xm> Cannot create link /etc/mtab~
[02:40] <a2xm> Perhaps there is a stale lock file?
[02:40] <a2xm> ic56: Added /dev/hda1 as '/media/hda1'.
[02:40] <a2xm> NTFS partitions will be mounted read-only!
[02:40] <a2xm> Cannot create link /etc/mtab~
[02:40] <a2xm> Perhaps there is a stale lock file?
[02:40] <a2xm> ic56:  to all of them
[02:40] <a2xm> ic56: hdb7
[02:41] <fm> hi
[02:41] <ic56> a2xm: ok, don't worry about that error.  Now, sudo rmdir /dev/hd{a2,a2,b7}  Any errors?
[02:41] <a2xm> ic56:  and just now i run the: sudo umount /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 /dev/hdb7, i got: Cannot create link /etc/mtab~
[02:41] <a2xm> Perhaps there is a stale lock file?
[02:41] <fm> When I use "?" or ":" in filenames of files that I share through samba, these names appear truncated.. can I do something?
[02:42] <LMJ> i'm Linux sysadmin in a company and i'm asking to myself a question. I have to run "apt-get update" by hand on each machine to update them and maybe upgrade them. Each time, i dowload all XML packages definition from internet for each computers. Have you ever seems a kind of "proxy" who store all fresh "XML packages lists"  in local and share them on the LAN . Then, i can do the "apt-get update" from all others computers of the LAN to this local machine with
[02:42] <LMJ> out re-download them from internet ?
[02:42] <tufsy> hi
[02:43] <BazziR> LMJ, you could setup a local mirror
[02:43] <tufsy> i am new at linux, i went to this site to install a bluetooth headset on ubuntu: http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/
[02:43] <ic56> a2xm: what do you mean you just ran the sudo umount?!  You've already told me the error messages!  Are you running it again?  Why?
[02:43] <a2xm> ic56:  sudo rmdir /dev/hd{a2,a2,b7} ? what's a2,a2,b7? is it not a1,a2,b7 ?
[02:43] <tufsy> i have some problems in compiling
[02:44] <tufsy> ./bootstrap
[02:44] <tufsy> configure.in: installing `./mkinstalldirs'
[02:44] <tufsy> alsa-plugins/Makefile.am:7: LIBS was already defined in condition TRUE, which implies condition ALSAPLUGIN_TRUE ...
[02:44] <tufsy> configure.in:6: ... `LIBS' previously defined here.
[02:44] <tufsy> alsa-plugins/Makefile.am:11: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
[02:44] <LMJ> yes BazziR , any ideas where i could find informations to setup this local mirror ?
[02:44] <tufsy> alsa-plugins/Makefile.am:11:
[02:44] <tufsy> alsa-plugins/Makefile.am:11: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
[02:44] <tufsy> alsa-plugins/Makefile.am:11: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.
[02:44] <tufsy> how do i define this LIBTOOL thingie?
[02:44] <ic56> a2xm: you are right: the first a2 should be a1.  BTW, notice how I answered that question unambiguously.  Had I just said "yes" you would wonder whether I'm answer this question or a previous one I had not yet answered
[02:44] <tufsy> cos later on it says something when i do autoconf
[02:45] <BazziR> LMJ: just use rsync
[02:45] <fm> u're probbly lacking the libtool library tufsy
[02:45] <tufsy> fm: i am just following these instructions manually
[02:45] <tufsy> and so i dont know what is going on
[02:46] <a2xm> ic56: sorry for my lack of English
[02:46] <tufsy> i mean, not manually mechanically
[02:46] <tufsy> i mean, not manually, i mean mechanically
[02:46] <tufsy> :D
[02:46] <tufsy> autoconf
[02:46] <tufsy> configure.in:25: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
[02:46] <tufsy>       If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
[02:46] <tufsy>       See the Autoconf documentation.
[02:46] <ic56> a2xm: the practice is teh same regardless of language: specify what you are answering.  Don't be lazy.
[02:46] <patter> is anyone else having problems updating package lists from the gb.ubuntu site?
[02:46] <Blaze^^> !nvidia
[02:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:46] <tufsy> i guess the 2 are related right?
[02:47] <ic56> a2xm: so, are you done with the rmdir already?
[02:47] <a2xm> ic56:  i got errors here
[02:47] <a2xm> ic56: rmdir: /dev/hda1: Not a directory
[02:47] <ic56> a2xm: my mistake.
[02:47] <hanuma> hello anybody knew modpython
[02:47] <hanuma> here
[02:48] <fm> tufsy: did u try to do a "sudo apt-get install libtool" before ?
[02:48] <tufsy> nope
[02:48] <hanuma> can anyone help me in modpython
[02:48] <ic56> a2xm: I should have said: sudo rmdir /media/hd{a1,a2,b7}  Any errors?
[02:48] <Paladine> The following packages have been kept back:
[02:48] <Paladine>   linux-image-amd64-generic linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic
[02:48] <Paladine> anyone know why the new kernel image is being kept back?
[02:49] <cypher1> Paladine, enable apt debugging
[02:49] <a2xm> ic56: rmdir: /media/hda1: Device or resource busy
[02:49] <a2xm> rmdir: /media/hda2: Directory not empty
[02:49] <a2xm> rmdir: /media/hdb7: Directory not empty
[02:49] <tufsy> fm: cool
[02:49] <ic56> a2xm: ah. bummer.  The umount didn't take.  hmmm.
[02:49] <Paladine> cypher, eh how do i do that?
[02:50] <czekista> hi
[02:50] <tufsy> :D
[02:50] <a2xm> ic56:  i got this error:  Cannot create link /etc/mtab~
[02:50] <a2xm> Perhaps there is a stale lock file? when run "sudo mount -a"
[02:50] <tufsy> me ez happy now
[02:50] <tufsy> cheers
[02:50] <fm> lol
[02:50] <fm> cool :)
[02:50] <cypher1> Paladine, apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes
[02:50] <ic56> a2xm: ok.  No need to umount and mount -a.  Instead, reboot.  Then repeat the rmdir.  When shutting down, you'll get errors about being unable to umount.  Don't worry about them.
[02:51] <czekista> i have download partialy file from ftp. Now i would like to continue that downlad, however i don't know how. When i type "wget --continue <myfile" it starts downloading from beginning :/
[02:51] <czekista> should i user some morec advanced ftp clients?
[02:51] <czekista> is it becuase of server?
[02:51] <a2xm> ic56:  ok, just a moment
[02:51] <ic56> a2xm: pick up the pace.  We've been here over 2 hours.
[02:51] <Paladine> cypher that command just came back with apt-get --help output
[02:52] <cypher1> Paladine, which version you are on ?
[02:52] <Paladine> dapper amd64
[02:52] <MalMen> how can i reconfigure xorg.conf
[02:52] <cypher1> Paladine, i am on breezy..  hold on.. let me see
[02:52] <MalMen> give me a cool and good tool from ati :X
[02:52] <Paladine> k
[02:53] <MalMen> plz
[02:53] <compengi> can anybody teach me how to make dns vhosts work on psybnc?
[02:54] <cypher1> Paladine, what is the original command you were trying ?
[02:54] <Paladine> the on eyou gave me?
[02:54] <Paladine> apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes
[02:54] <cypher1> Paladine, no the original one
[02:55] <Paladine> I did sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:55] <Paladine> and it told me it is holding back the new kernel and the restricted modules
[02:55] <Paladine> The following packages have been kept back:
[02:55] <Paladine>   linux-image-amd64-generic linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic
[02:56] <Bounty> sorry to disrupt but i am looking for the proper channel for yahoo information. anything would be healpful.
[02:56] <Zoolie> i downloaded kopete-0.12.1.tar.bz2 and then what i need to do? pls help...thx
[02:56] <someothernick> Paladine: maybe its your source list?
[02:56] <Zoolie> just extract it?
[02:57] <Paladine> someothernick, I don't see what my source list would have to do with it, if it is listed as an available update then it must have already been able to access the relevant repo
[02:58] <crazy_penguin> !restricted
[02:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <someothernick> Paladine: try this one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758
[02:58] <MalMen> !xorg
[02:58] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:58] <Hobbsee> Zoolie: no, grab it from www.buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kopete, and run sudo dpkg -i kopete*.deb
[02:58] <cypher1> Paladine, try `apt-get -u install linux-image-amd64-generic` and see what is the output
[02:58] <a2xm> ic56: i think it works
[02:58] <MalMen> !reconfigure xorg
[02:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about reconfigure xorg - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:59] <a2xm> ic56:  wait, but not the name i've change.
[02:59] <Jeff_> should I go Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[02:59] <Paladine> cypher, that is letting me install
[02:59] <Paladine> I wonder why apt-get upgrade isn't letting me do it then
[02:59] <moogman> Hey. I'm in the process of converting a die hard windows fan/administrator to Ubuntu. He's really impressesd with how easy it is to use, and I'm almost there, except... He can't access his networked machines, via samba.
[03:00] <ic56> a2xm: did you reboot and run the sudo rmdir?
[03:00] <cypher1> Paladine, what was the output ?
[03:00] <moogman> I've gone into gconf-editor, and changed the workgroup to the correct one, and we now get a list of machines via "windows network", which is a good start - except we cant connect to one machine in particular. Is there anything else we need to do to get it working correctly/
[03:00] <Smeggy> holy wow Tracker is nice
[03:00] <a2xm> ic56:  sorry, i forgot the rmdir...
[03:01] <Blaze^^> !easyubuntu
[03:01] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:01] <DrData> How do I make XF86BACK work with firefox?
[03:01] <ic56> a2xm: sudo rmdir /media/hd{a1,a2,b7}  Any errors?
[03:01] <a2xm> ic56:  rmdir: /media/hda1: No such file or directory
[03:01] <a2xm> rmdir: /media/hda2: Directory not empty
[03:01] <a2xm> rmdir: /media/hdb7: Directory not empty
[03:02] <a2xm> ic56:  but all the partitions are here on the desktop
[03:02] <theBeno> On the new ubuntu installer, when do I set the root password?
[03:02] <moogman> theBeno: The root password is unset (therefore disabled) by default, for security reasons.
[03:02] <ic56> a2xm: these errors tell me that you didn't correctly edit /etc/fstab . Under what names are the partitions on the desktop?
[03:02] <moogman> theBeno: We would encourage you to use "sudo" when you need root functionality:)
[03:02] <DrData> theBeno: when the installation is complete
[03:02] <Paladine> cypher sec
[03:03] <Paladine> !pastebin
[03:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:03] <skavenge> is there an easy way to remove gnome after installing kde?
[03:03] <a2xm> ic56:  /dev/hda2 /media/data --> this works correct
[03:03] <theBeno> moogman, That's pretty good I guess, but doesn't sudo have security risks?
[03:03] <moogman> theBeno: Like what?
[03:03] <Jeff_> why use kde on ubuntu, just use kubuntu
[03:03] <a2xm> ic56: /dev/hda1 /media/windows --> this also correct
[03:03] <Chousuke> Jeff_: it's the same thing.
[03:03] <Chousuke> :P
[03:03] <Paladine> cypher http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18077
[03:04] <skavenge> ive had this ubuntu install up for ages just want to change WMs
[03:04] <theBeno> moogman, Not sure myself, but I've read some things on it.
[03:04] <Chousuke> Jeff_: install kubuntu-desktop and you get Kubuntu. :)
[03:04] <theBeno> I've never used sudo, also had it disabled.
[03:04] <Jeff_> ahhh
[03:04] <moogman> theBeno: I think the idea for Ubuntu, is to stop users from running as root for their normal user.
[03:04] <moogman> theBeno: root user is disabled, so you cannot ssh in as root, etc. etc.
[03:04] <Chousuke> sudo is IMHO superior to other methods of accessing root power.
[03:05] <a2xm> ic56:  and there are some partisions thet using their own name.. i confuse here
[03:05] <Bounty> does anybody have any clue to how i can still access yahoo through ubuntu ?
[03:05] <skavenge> but if your running gnome and install kde both WMs apps are in the menus and stuff really annoying
[03:05] <ompaul> !rootsudo > theBeno
[03:05] <moogman> theBeno: Which leaves sudo as the only option to perform admin options. That's the way I see it anyway.
[03:05] <moogman> !rootsudo > moogman
[03:05] <dark_light> Chousuke, why?
[03:05] <theBeno> moogman, Yeah, that's good for the average joe who will never use ssh, but I like my advanced features.
[03:05] <Chousuke> dark_light: because it's convenient, fast, secure and I just love it. <4
[03:05] <a2xm> ic56: /dev/hdb7 /media/riyanto --> this doesnt works
[03:06] <Chousuke> dark_light: it also allows for more fine-grained control of root rights.
[03:06] <Deanodriver> hey all
[03:07] <moogman> theBeno: If you do "sudo passwd", you can set the root password, which means you'll be able to login directly, or using su etc.
[03:07] <Chousuke> that's not recommended though.
[03:07] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> heylo people
[03:07] <Deanodriver> i'm having a small problem with my samba shares, I can read and write to them from my windows box (on my server), but on my desktop, it's read-only
[03:07] <dark_light> Chousuke, i think that or you have root or don't have. and.. yes, it's sometimes convenient
[03:07] <moogman> Agreed Chousuke
[03:07] <cypher1> Paladine, please repeat the same for the other package also and see the output
[03:07] <piwi> can you guys explain me how to install a tar.gz application? flash player doesnt want to install automatically using firefox automated wizard
[03:07] <ic56> a2xm: shouldn't that be riyanto2 ? That's how it was in your old fstab from Ubuntu 5.10
[03:08] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> anyone know a good place to play chess online?? i cant get into zone.com cuz of no IE,, so any places would be great!
[03:08] <Hobbsee> !flash > piwi
[03:08] <theBeno> moogman, Yeah, and I'll probably remove sudo.
[03:08] <a2xm> ic56: /dev/hdb7 /media/riyanto --> this works anly on nautilus, not on desktop
[03:08] <theBeno> Or disable it.
[03:08] <dark_light> Chousuke, but login as root is so more simple when you want type many commands..
[03:08] <Deanodriver> my entry in fstab for the shares is:
[03:08] <MalMen> http://rafb.net/paste/results/vKB52d91.html <- what is wrong here ?
[03:08] <Chousuke> theBeno: that could break things in Ubuntu
[03:08] <Chousuke> dark_light: no it isn't
[03:08] <Chousuke> dark_light: sudo -s :)
[03:08] <ompaul> theBeno, well sudo is advanced
[03:08] <piwi> thanks Hobbsee
[03:08] <a2xm> ic56: /dev/hdb7 /media/riyanto --> this works on nautilus, not on desktop
[03:09] <gonn> hello. how can i change my laptop monitor brightness if there are no buttons on monitor?
[03:09] <Deanodriver> /shareonserver /mountpoint smbfs defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=777,user   0   0
[03:09] <dark_light> Chousuke, hmm yeah but *i* love to go to a tty and login as root :P
[03:09] <ompaul> theBeno, I had the bot send you a url read its contents it will tell you all you want to know
[03:09] <Deanodriver> (two // on the share on server)
[03:09] <Deanodriver> have i missed out something in order to have read/write?
[03:09] <Chousuke> dark_light: well, login as your normal user instead and do sudo -s :P
[03:09] <moogman> theBeno: As Chousuke, you can use "sudo -s" to perform the same thing as "su". But, if you know plenty about Linux, you'd have already made up your mind about sudo vs su :)
[03:09] <bbrazil> Deanodriver: you need a umask too
[03:09] <b00gz1> Can someone please help me with a really simple Bind issue.   I am using Bind9 and I am hosting ibxsecurity.com ... If I ask 192.168.10.12 (Local Private IP) about ibxsecurity.com it will respond with my WAN IP (Which it should do) now if I ask my Wan IP about ibxsecurity.com it gives me DNS requested timed out.  I do have the ports forwarded and it does not fail until I ask about the domain.  PLEASE HELP!
[03:09] <Chousuke> moogman: I knew plenty about Linux before I found sudo. :D
[03:10] <Chousuke> then I converted.
[03:10] <a2xm> ic56: ah, wait.. /dev/hdb7 /media/riyanto --> this works on desktop but with the name OTHERS
[03:10] <Deanodriver> really? thanks, i'll give that a try
[03:10] <ic56> a2xm: by "works", I assume you mean that you see an icon named "windows" which, when you open, you see your files.  Correct?
[03:10] <Deanodriver> 777 as well?
[03:10] <Paladine> cypher1, same thing sudo apt-get -u install will let me do it, but the sudo apt-get upgrade still marks it as kept back
[03:10] <a2xm> ic56: yes, for windows & data
[03:10] <moogman> Chousuke: Me too. I nuked my boxes too many times running as root, and using su, and leaving root wide open to ssh ;)
[03:10] <ic56> a2xm: shouldn't that be riyanto2 ? That's how it was in your old fstab from Ubuntu 5.10
[03:10] <theBeno> ompaul, I'm reading the page right now.
[03:10] <cypher1> b00gz1, please join #dns
[03:11] <lotwook> !mplayer
[03:11] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Try " sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts " ( multiverse must be enabled see !repos ).
[03:11] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:11] <theBeno> moogman, And I don't like su. ^_^
[03:11] <theBeno> moogman, sudo*
[03:11] <cypher1> Paladine, can you please paste
[03:11] <MalMen> http://rafb.net/paste/results/vKB52d91.html <- what is wrong here ? plz help me, my X dont want start :X
[03:11] <a2xm> ic56: yes, you're right... but i dont know where the name OTHERS come from
[03:11] <moogman> theBeno: Hehe fair enough, then you can use "sudo passwd" to re-enable it.
[03:11] <Curator> how do I install a USB ADSL modem in ubuntu?
[03:12] <Curator> it DOESNT have ethernet
[03:12] <Chousuke> Curator: Those are always a bit difficult.
[03:12] <moogman> Any ideas about my samba/windows network problem, guys? (See original question above)
[03:12] <frogzoo> Curator: get a linux driver (maybe) or you're sol
[03:12] <a2xm> ic56:  and the partitions that i dont want, are there works fine
[03:12] <Deanodriver> do i set umask as 0777 or 777?
[03:12] <dark_light> Chousuke, well. maybe it's better to avoid one step if i don't plan to do any work with the regular user. :P
[03:12] <cypher1> hi frogzoo
[03:13] <a2xm> ic56: with their own name
[03:13] <Chousuke> dark_light: ;P
[03:13] <dark_light> well, bye-bye :P
[03:13] <Chousuke> a few years ago when I installed Debian I had a USB ADSL Modem.
[03:13] <williams> ilatino.com
[03:13] <gonn> how can i change my laptop monitor brightness if there are no buttons on monitor?
[03:13] <Chousuke> After a while, I gave up and bought a real one. :P
[03:13] <sysKin> anyone knows what liblarne0 packet is
[03:13] <MalMen> thats the error
[03:13] <MalMen> http://rafb.net/paste/results/obOKOs49.html
[03:13] <Chousuke> Things may have improved since.
[03:13] <piwi> !tar.gz
[03:13] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[03:14] <piwi> !install tar.gz
[03:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about install tar.gz - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:14] <Chousuke> piwi: install flashplayer-nonfree
[03:14] <frogzoo> !fishing > piwi
[03:14] <Paladine> cypher1, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18078
[03:14] <ic56> a2xm: Let me clarify, since you failed to answer the original question and you are now confusing it with a different context: shouldn't that be riyanto2 instead of riyanto on the desktop and in /etc/fstab? That's how it was in your old fstab from Ubuntu 5.10
[03:14] <lotwook> Anyone able to help me with the mplayer plugin? When I got to watch video at cnn.com for example, I get just a white screen where the video should play.
[03:15] <ompaul> theBeno, a minor note, never tell someone in this channel how to do what you asked, point them to that page please, the reason is as we help new users we expect them to start from the same point
[03:15] <Smeggy> anyone recommend an encypted dvd ripper?
[03:15] <theBeno> moogman, I run FreeBSD and gentoo systems, but just trying Ubuntu because it's the latest big thing.  Especially with LTS support etc.
[03:15] <Smeggy> one of my dvds has a crack in the inner circle and i want to rip it before it shatters
[03:15] <a2xm> ic56: yes, it should be riyanto2 just like in the old fstab
[03:15] <xophEr> Do you guys know of an app that lets me convert my movies (xvid) to mp4-format? (cell phone)
[03:15] <rpedro> gonn: try 'man xgamma' , it's for adjusting screen gamma color, but might work as an workaround until you find out a real solution, as I can't think of anything else
[03:15] <theBeno> ompaul, alright
[03:15] <frogzoo> cypher1: yep, don't think suspend works the way you think - by default all network drivers are removed, so there's no state to restore, but from the interfaces file
[03:16] <gonn> thanks rpedro
[03:16] <ompaul> theBeno, if they have root - it is not fair on the people here who are expecting them not to have it and 10 minutes later you find they have been touching all the stuff in their home dir with root what a mess :-)
[03:16] <ompaul> theBeno, I came to linux from FreeBSD and I can say I prefer it, if you do it for a week you tend to implement it on other boxes :-)
[03:17] <ompaul> theBeno, was doing linux long before I got into ubuntu
[03:17] <moogman> theBeno: Ah, nice to see the support having effect. You'll find Ubuntu "easier" than most other Linux/UNIX IMHO, if you stick with the way they want to do things
[03:17] <rosa> anyone knows how to get an aolconnection on (k)ubuntu? i am noob so plz explain slow...ly.
[03:17] <cypher1> frogzoo, but it can remember which are the network drivers loaded right
[03:17] <rpedro> gonn: np, I never used any under linux but someone else might know of a real control panel for such things
[03:17] <ic56> a2xm: so, did you mistype it when you changed /etc/fstab ? Does your fstab say riyanto or riyanto2 ?  Does your /media directory contain a subdirectory named riyanto or riyanto2?
[03:18] <cypher1> Paladine, sorry i could not root cause it... but if you notice the package names are different..
[03:18] <frogzoo> cypher1: I think it just reloads whatever drivers are needed to bring up the interfaces
[03:18] <snoops> I'm after a powerful password management program - which allows me to set passwords which expire after x time etc?
[03:18] <gonn> i was hoping to find that in the internet
[03:18] <gonn> but none so far...
[03:18] <TARZEAU> snoops: for linux logins?
[03:18] <theBeno> Yeah, it's a good system, but I'm not a fan of someone making me "stick with the way they want to do things".  That's why I use linux in the first place. ^_^
[03:18] <cypher1> frogzoo, no i dont agree to that way
[03:18] <frogzoo> snoops: stock passwd supports expiration
[03:18] <TARZEAU> snoops: you already have it ;)
[03:18] <frogzoo> snoops: just need a gui mebbe
[03:18] <frogzoo> cypher1: so submit a patch
[03:18] <moogman> snoops: passwd -x
[03:18] <cypher1> frogzoo, if i have a dummy entry in interfaces will it load a driver for that also ?
[03:19] <cypher1> frogzoo, did thought of going into hibernate code.. ;)
[03:19] <b00gz1> cypher1 ok Thanks!
[03:19] <snoops> not for logins
[03:19] <gonn> ha!
[03:19] <cypher1> b00gz1, welcome
[03:19] <snoops> for websites, bank account stuff etc
[03:19] <gonn> i just found out that default keys work for brightness setting
[03:20] <vice-versa> any suggestions for booting with 5.10 livecd on a Compaq R4000 (AMD64 3500 w/ATI)?
[03:20] <vice-versa> so far I've used noacpi acpi=off debian-installer/framebuffer=false and I'm thinking it's hanging loading X
[03:20] <gonn> i could not ever dream of that!
[03:20] <gonn> :)
[03:20] <gonn> but it is just my monitor is't too good :(
[03:20] <gonn> thanks anyway ;)
[03:20] <ompaul> vice-versa, if your using 5.10 then do this, wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge just try it out
[03:21] <poje> I wish I could whip the ATI devs until they made a functioning linux driver
[03:21] <vice-versa> ompaul: ok, ty looking....
[03:21] <rpedro> gonn: great ;-)
[03:21] <Deanodriver> i'm still having no luck, i changed umask and dmask, and still cannot write
[03:22] <snoops> TARZEAU?
[03:22] <Deanodriver> stupid dmask
[03:22] <TARZEAU> snoops?
[03:22] <Deanodriver> and fstab
[03:22] <cypher1> frogzoo, that is the reason i reopened the defect
[03:23] <frogzoo> cypher1: all the hotplug code's in a state of flux atm, so I'm pretty much assuming these little niggles will sort themselves out over time
[03:23] <snoops> TARZEAU you assumed I meant for logins - any idea for a password manager which has expirations etc for bank account details/web site logins/all personal passwords really
[03:23] <Deanodriver> this is my current fstab entry:
[03:23] <Deanodriver> /maggie/files1	/files		smbfs	defaults,uid=1000,umask=777,gid=1000,dmask=777,user	0	0
[03:23] <cypher1> frogzoo, can we discuss in #ubuntu-bugs ?
[03:23] <vice-versa> ompaul: that's for doing a full install is it not?
[03:23] <Deanodriver> i can read to it with this
[03:23] <Deanodriver> and read and write with my windows box
[03:24] <frogzoo> cypher1: I'm kind of busy atm
[03:24] <Deanodriver> and i'm pretty sure the problem is on this end if i can read/write on the windows box
[03:24] <Deanodriver> no user/pass set
[03:25] <Deanodriver> does anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
[03:25] <Deanodriver> i don't like copying 45GB over SSH :)
[03:25] <TARZEAU> Deanodriver: why not?
[03:25] <Deanodriver> far too slow
[03:25] <TARZEAU> Deanodriver: i've copied 450 GB over SSH
[03:26] <vice-versa> ompaul: I just want to boot with the LiveCD for now, is there anyway to pass a parameter to not load X?
[03:26] <sysKin> is there a way to play music with xmms from smb:// drive?
[03:26] <Deanodriver> so just continue doing it?
[03:26] <sysKin> it doesn't seem to be doing anything when I try
[03:26] <TARZEAU> Deanodriver: i assume you have 100mbit?
[03:26] <TARZEAU> Deanodriver: and use rsync?
[03:26] <Deanodriver> yes
[03:26] <Deanodriver> no
[03:27] <TARZEAU> sure, just keep it running in a screen
[03:27] <Deanodriver> (copying in nautilus)
[03:27] <TARZEAU> oh...
[03:27] <TARZEAU> i wouldn't trust nautilus to not segfault for so long
[03:27] <Deanodriver> lol
[03:27] <Deanodriver> i spose i could boot up with a livecd and copy it over
[03:27] <Deanodriver> i'm wiping this machine anyway
[03:28] <ompaul> vice-versa, I guess there is I don't know it
[03:28] <Deanodriver> it took about an hour and a half to copy 13GB, is all
[03:28] <moogman> Hey. I'm in the process of converting a die hard windows fan/administrator to Ubuntu. He's really impressesd with how easy it is to use, and I'm almost there, except... He can't access his networked machines, via samba. I've gone into gconf-editor, and changed the workgroup to the correct one, and we now get a list of machines via "windows network", which is a good start - except we cant connect to one machine in particular. Is t
[03:28] <Deanodriver> still got another 28GB to go :)
[03:29] <ompaul> !samba > moogman
[03:29] <moogman> Deanodriver: You could try using ssh -C, to compress the connection - if you have lots of compressible data (i.e. not movies or mp3s)
[03:29] <Deanodriver> afraid not
[03:29] <Deanodriver> i'll just boot up with a livecd, and copy it in that
[03:29] <vice-versa> is there anyway to pass a parameter when booting 5.10 LiveCD 64bit to not load X?
[03:29] <Deanodriver> as i said, i'm wiping the hdd soon anyway
[03:30] <Deanodriver> oh
[03:30] <Deanodriver> i've got 1GB of RAM, but rarely use the swap atm, how big should my swap partition be?
[03:30] <Deanodriver> it's 1GB atm
[03:30] <Zoolie> thx Hobbsee,what .deb i need from there? and this tar.bz2 is what? couse maybe one day i find a program in *.tar.bz2 and i want to use it...pls tell me
[03:31] <pianoboy3333> How do you mount a firewire (1394) drive? What device does it show up under?
[03:31] <moogman> Thanks ompaul, that doesn't seem to help - Samba client is installed, and we're just trying to connect to a remote (Windows) share, via Nautilus
[03:31] <erUSUL> Zoolie: is a zip like file with a tre of source files to compile the program yourself
[03:32] <ompaul> moogman, read that page if you want to browse there is smbclient
[03:32] <Zoolie> how to compile?
[03:32] <ompaul> !compile > Zoolie
[03:32] <Zoolie> thx
[03:32] <Zoolie> !compile
[03:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:32] <moogman> ompaul: Des Nautilus and gnome VFS use smbclient as it's backend then?
[03:33] <Zoolie> thx guys
[03:33] <ompaul> moogman, no idea
[03:33] <Zoolie> the link is empty
[03:33] <erUSUL> Zoolie: make sure that the program is not in repositories. compiling from source is not a wise thing to do unless you know what you are doing
[03:33] <ompaul> moogman, I will know in three hours
[03:33] <Zoolie> nothing there
[03:33] <ompaul> moogman, going to do some samba work here
[03:34] <moogman> ompaul: Ok, I guess would be useful to try connecting with smbclient, to see where the problem lies.
[03:34] <ompaul> moogman, hopefully all done by then
[03:34] <Zoolie> erUSUL,ok but kopete is only in 0.11 at ubuntu reps.....
[03:34] <moogman> ompaul: Ok, I'll stick around :)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> Zoolie: you want http://www.buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kopete/kopete_3.5.3+kopete0.12.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (assuming you're on i386)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> !compile > Zoolie
[03:34] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> anyone know if they have a shockwave for linux yet??!?!
[03:35] <erUSUL> Echodrive-Ubuntu: no afaik
[03:35] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> fark
[03:35] <sj``> hi there, i upgraded from breezy to dapper but my sound no longer works. I get "/dev/dsp: no such device" when trying to run alsamixer or aumix, my sound card is 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:35] <bigfoot1> what's the fastest way to convert a wav to mp3?
[03:35] <bigfoot1> sound converter?
[03:35] <Zoolie> Hobbsee: !compile's link is empty
[03:35] <Paladine> k time to reboot and try out -26
[03:35] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> why cant companies realise that linux users are are large in amount and only growing
[03:35] <Paladine> brb hopefully
[03:35] <sj``> any ideas?
[03:35] <moogman> ompaul: I had to use gconf-editor to allow Nautilus to "see" my workgroup/domain
[03:36] <erUSUL> !sound > sj``
[03:36] <snoops> Echodrive-Ubuntu because it's still the absolute minority
[03:36] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> lol,,, i know no-one,, not one person that uses a mac
[03:36] <Hobbsee> Zoolie: wait for it to come up
[03:36] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> lol,,
[03:36] <sj``> thank you
[03:36] <ompaul> Zoolie, na it is there I sent it to you click again
[03:36] <erUSUL> sj``: run gstreamer-properties and choose alsa as backend
[03:36] <Paladine> anyone know if there is a way to make firefox save the tabs you have open and then relaunch them when firefox starts?
[03:37] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> paladine are you talking about a homepage?
[03:37] <erUSUL> Paladine: there are extensions to do that
[03:37] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> oh ok
[03:37] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> nvm me
[03:37] <Paladine> no I am talking about several tabs Ialways have open with different sites in
[03:37] <Paladine> erUSUL, you know which extension?
[03:37] <Sh4d0w> anyone who can help me (i am new to linux) with seahorse and gnu pg? want to use it with gajim but i have no idea how to install everything i need
[03:38] <sj``> erUSUL: same problem when i did that.
[03:39] <erUSUL> sj``: does 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav' work?
[03:39] <erUSUL> Sh4d0w: what is the problem?
[03:40] <a2xm> ic56: hello...
[03:40] <Sh4d0w> i wanted to know what i need to manage gnu pg in ubuntu, i have my keys in .asc here but i dont know how tu import them in any keymanager
[03:40] <|kY> how can i make a new partition if the system is installed ???
[03:40] <ic56> a2xm: hello
[03:41] <a2xm> ic56: my connection went down
[03:41] <ic56> a2xm: so, did you mistype it when you changed /etc/fstab ? Does your fstab say riyanto or riyanto2 ?  Does your /media directory contain a subdirectory named riyanto or riyanto2?
[03:41] <|kY> how can i make a new partition without installing the system new ???
[03:41] <jersymike> ne one here willing to help me with going through linux for my first time?
[03:41] <a2xm> ic56: wrote many of those answer already, man... ;-)
[03:41] <erUSUL> Sh4d0w: gpg --import *.asc
[03:41] <ubuntu_Iz> ncan anyone help with samba?
[03:41] <erUSUL> |kY: gparted
[03:42] <Sh4d0w> ah so i just need to install gpg with synaptic and then use the console?
[03:42] <erUSUL> |kY: gparted and btw do not repeat please
[03:42] <|kY> ok sorry ;)
[03:42] <erUSUL> Sh4d0w: gpg should be instaled by default
[03:42] <sj``> erUSUL: nope, i get the following errors: http://rafb.net/paste/results/m0pJY672.html
[03:43] <Sh4d0w> ok i try, thx, are my first steps at linux, want to come away from windows
[03:43] <erUSUL> Sh4d0w: seahorse does have a import function (Keys>Import)
[03:43] <ubuntu_Iz> is anyone good with samba?
[03:43] <moogman> ubuntu_Iz: Possibly. What's up?
[03:43] <DBO> ubuntu_Iz, what do you need?
[03:43] <Sh4d0w> yes but my problem is, how can i install seahores
[03:44] <jersymike> hmm
[03:44] <a2xm> ic56:  i didn't mistype, i just remember its what should be, sorry... my fstab contain riyanto. and my /media has both riyanto and riyanto2. but the riyanto2 has nothing in it
[03:44] <sj``> erUSUL: i will try building alsa-driver from source with intel8x0 drivers and see if that works
[03:44] <ubuntu_Iz> well i set up samba on two ubuntu 6.06 computers, and when i try to access either from the other, it goes into an eternal loop of asking for a username and password
[03:44] <a2xm> ic56: and i dont want riyanto2
[03:44] <erUSUL> sj``: try modprobe snd-intel8x0
[03:44] <ubuntu_Iz> i was told to use smppasswd and set a password on both machines, which i have done
[03:44] <erUSUL> Sh4d0w: with synaptic
[03:44] <ic56> a2xm: ok. sudo rmdir /media/riyanto2
[03:44] <erUSUL> !synaptic > Sh4d0w
[03:44] <riddlebox> if I create a deb file, do I have to do anything to it so apt will resolve dependencies for it?
[03:45] <sj``> FATAL: Error inserting snd_intel8x0 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[03:45] <erUSUL> !repositories > Sh4d0w
[03:45] <Sh4d0w> ok thx
[03:45] <jersymike> how do i gt to some sort of destop the boot login?
[03:45] <|kY> erUSUL: i can't change anything with gparted
[03:45] <Sh4d0w> ah well i have done this, but i dont find a file with that i can start seahorse, there are only glade files
[03:45] <a2xm> ic56: done
[03:46] <v3> Hello all, I just want ubuntu to login to the default user and keep the system up and running, ready to accept remote login how do i do that ? after a power failure the system will not login to the user account ...
[03:46] <sj``> brb
[03:46] <v3> how do i fix this ?
[03:47] <jersymike> i9 must be retarted or something i cant figure this crp out for my life
[03:47] <riddlebox> v3, System-->Administration--->Login
[03:47] <a2xm> ic56: /media/riyanto works ok on nautilus, but its become others on desktop. weird?
[03:48] <erUSUL> |kY: you con't change mounted partitions and there are restricitions on what can be done. is better to edit parts from a livecd. also *make backups* messing with harddrives is risky business
[03:48] <ubuntu_Iz> so erm
[03:48] <erUSUL> Sh4d0w:
[03:48] <riddlebox> jersymike, I have missed what your problem is, do you mind saying it again?
[03:48] <Sh4d0w> well first good thing, i imported the keys with gpg itself :)
[03:48] <erUSUL> Sh4d0w: Apps>Acces.>
[03:48] <pianoboy3333> I'd like to know if I can get some help with a sound issue at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1258892
[03:48] <jersymike> im new at linux.. how would i log on for the first time after instaling it?
[03:49] <erUSUL> jersymike: with the user and password you set during intalation
[03:49] <v3> riddlebox: hmmz ok ..
[03:49] <Sh4d0w> erUSUL: there is no seahorse :/ but in synaptic it says seahrose is installed
[03:49] <riddlebox> jersymike, when you installed your system, you created a user account with a password
[03:49] <ic56> a2xm: good. I don't know why riyanto doesn't appear on your desktop while data does.  They're configured identically, AFAIK, and the reboot should have cleared any discrepancy.  So that's as far as I can help you.  If you like this setup, keep it.  If you prefer the one you had before, rename /etc/fstab and replace it with the backup (/etc/fstab.back...).  Either way, you will still have problems with other stuff:
[03:49] <jersymike> i instaled it then removed the disk but when i load up it says put a boot disk in
[03:49] <v3> can a box without anybody logged in accept ssh connections ?
[03:50] <ubuntu_Iz> i guess i'll just post on the forums
[03:50] <dmsantam> jersymike, did you install a boot loader?
[03:50] <dmsantam> v3, yes
[03:50] <jersymike> umm
[03:50] <jersymike> i dont think i did
[03:50] <Sh4d0w> i will try gpa
[03:50] <erUSUL> v3: yes whay not?
[03:50] <dmsantam> jersymike, it asked you to install grub
[03:50] <jersymike> how would i do that?
[03:50] <dmsantam> jersymike, do you remember accepting that?
[03:50] <jersymike> umm no
[03:50] <dmsantam> the installer asks you to install grub (a boot loader)
[03:50] <jersymike> i instaled the server
[03:50] <a2xm> ic56:  and how about the partisions that i dont want. all aff them are in the desktop
[03:51] <ic56> a2xm: tehre are virtual filesystems that aren't in the old fstab and which are needed in 6.06 and your cdrom and dvdrom mountpoints aren't setup quite right -- nonstandard.  Eventually, you may want to reinstall
[03:51] <ic56> a2xm: which partitions?
[03:51] <riddlebox> jersymike,  then you did not complete the install, your system will reboot once during an install if I remember correctly but it will tell you when you are done
[03:51] <jersymike> i was instaling mandrivia but someone told me to go this way because its alot more freindly
[03:51] <v3> dmsantam,erUSUL cool tnx. do i need to do anything special to enable root login to that box ?
[03:51] <Sh4d0w> ah i found seahorse sry i was blind
[03:51] <a2xm> ic56: hdb1, hdb5, hdb6
[03:52] <Taza> What kind of install should I pick if I want both Xubuntu and a LAMP server for a p2?
[03:52] <jersymike> hmm
[03:52] <riddlebox> jersymike, I used to use mandriva, ubuntu is faster and it seems that it is friendly toward everyone
[03:52] <v3>  oh and i need to have a dyndns attached to the box ... will that requrie a login ?
[03:52] <a2xm> ic56:  all of them are on the desktop with their own name.
[03:52] <Taza> Both Gnome and KDE are too heavy for that computer.
[03:52] <jersymike> yeah thats what i was told and i was having problem with mandrivia not comming out of failsafe mode
[03:53] <riddlebox> v3, you can use dyndns on the router if you have one and point ssh or web to the pc through the router as well
[03:53] <ic56> a2xm: do you want them to not be mounted or to be mounted but not visible on the desktop?
[03:53] <jersymike> ok well how would i install the boot loader now?
[03:53] <erUSUL> v3: yes edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:53] <riddlebox> jersymike, I suggest going through the install again
[03:53] <hawkaloogie> Taza, I'd start with the ubuntu server install, and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (iirc)
[03:53] <a2xm> ic56: i want them not to be mounted
[03:53] <jersymike> could u step me through the instal so i dont mess up this time if i have questions on somethinh?
[03:53] <jersymike> something*
[03:54] <riddlebox> can anyone tell me how to find out who is packaging certain apps in the repositories?
[03:54] <riddlebox> jersymike, sure
[03:54] <ic56> a2xm: ok.  Could you verify what exists under them in the desktop?  They should appear to be empty, given the fstab you showed me
[03:54] <Taza> hawkaloogie: Thanks. I got the server CD and am atm installing the LAMP version of the install.
[03:54] <jersymike> ty umm first question is should i be using the server cd to instal it or the destop one?
[03:55] <riddlebox> is this for a server or for your desktop?
[03:55] <a2xm> ic56:  sorry, i dont get what u mean
[03:55] <jersymike> umm its for a home computer
[03:55] <jersymike> but it has no os on it because windows got whiped out
[03:55] <riddlebox> jersymike, then use the desktop cd
[03:55] <falfaro> Usually, for a home computer, you would choose the desktop CD.
[03:56] <jersymike> oh ok
[03:56] <v3> riddlebox, erUSUL tnx.
[03:56] <ic56> a2xm: when you open the icons for those partitions on the desktop, do you see any files inside?
[03:56] <erUSUL> v3: no problem
[03:56] <riddlebox> v3, no prob
[03:56] <jersymike> well it has no os at all atm
[03:56] <Taza> If I want a light install (seeing the bit under 2gb hdd), server cd would be preferable?
[03:56] <riddlebox> jersymike,  thats great
[03:56] <falfaro> However, if you intend the machine to act as a network server, like running Apache, file server or print server, the Server CD could be best suited.
[03:56] <Taza> jersymike: Doesn't matter
[03:56] <a2xm> ic56: yes, it works just fine
[03:57] <jersymike> nah atm im jus gonna try to getused to linux and ill make this computer a server after im firmilar with it
[03:57] <ic56> a2xm: did you mount them manually since you last rebooted?
[03:57] <Taza> jersymike: The desktop install has it's own desktop IIRC. It doesn't need windows, and it doesn't need even the HDD to work.
[03:57] <a2xm> ic56: nope
[03:57] <riddlebox> v3, there is another cool thing you can do, if you want that user to start certain apps when it logs in, you can go the sessions option and enter commands to run when it logs in
[03:58] <ic56> a2xm: please pastebin your /etc/fstab for me again -- I want to see the latest version
[03:58] <jersymike> oh realy
[03:58] <riddlebox> jersymike, once you get the desktop running, its really not much to get the server apps on it, through synaptic or apt-get
[03:58] <jersymike> w8 go back to that doesnt need a hdd to work
[03:58] <jersymike> cuz i have a laptop with a fryed hdd
[03:59] <riddlebox> jersymike, the ubuntu install disc is a livecd, it will run off of your cdrom
[03:59] <jersymike> ok but i still need a hdd to store things tho right?
[03:59] <riddlebox> jersymike, yes you will
[04:00] <jersymike> kk
[04:00] <riddlebox> jersymike, or a flash drive or something
[04:00] <jersymike> lol i was getting happy for a moment
[04:00] <jersymike> yeah i was thinking about going external but its not worth it to put that on it
[04:00] <jersymike> cuz the laptop is junk
[04:00] <Paladine> anyone know how I re-enable linux console colors in terminals?
[04:01] <sj``> erUSUL: i recompiled the alsa driver to use snd-intel8x0, which is loaded, still having the same problem
[04:01] <ic56> Paladine: by terminals, do you mean the gnome-terminal application?
[04:01] <falfaro> Paladine, what is you TERM variable set to?
[04:01] <a2xm> ic56: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18079
[04:01] <Taza> jersymike: If you want a system to run without a HDD, I suggest knoppix over ubuntu. With a 64mb usb drive, for example.
[04:01] <falfaro> Or you could also use DSL (Damn Small Linux)
[04:02] <Paladine> yeah gnome terminal
[04:02] <jersymike> ok lol
[04:02] <falfaro> Paladine, I mean what's the output when running "echo $TERM"
[04:02] <Taza> I've found the knoppix CD + usb drive for saving files/config work like a charm
[04:02] <Paladine> TERM=xterm
[04:02] <jersymike> hmm
[04:02] <falfaro> OK, so the terminal is set up correctly
[04:02] <erUSUL> sj``: i'm afraid i can not help you further... check the output of lsmod to see if all nec. modules are loaded etc
[04:02] <falfaro> What's missing the colors?
[04:02] <lowfi> Paladine, uncomment the color section in ~/.bashrc
[04:03] <sj``> erUSUL: ok no worries. thanks for your help (:
[04:03] <jersymike> by a usb drive u mean like a portable hdd or like a memory stick?
[04:03] <Taza> jersymike: memory stick.
[04:03] <Paladine> lowfi, ah that would explain it, I think I must have rm'd .bashrc by mistake
[04:03] <ic56> Paladine: what does "alias ls" report?
[04:03] <jersymike> oh ok i have a few of them from my little bros psp
[04:03] <falfaro> run "alias" and make sure you've got an alias defined for ls like "alias ls='ls --color=auto'"
[04:04] <Taza> jersymike: I doubt. Not a memory card, an USB drive.
[04:04] <Paladine> paladine@main:~$ alias ls
[04:04] <Paladine> bash: alias: ls: not found
[04:04] <Paladine> paladine@main:~$
[04:04] <vivek> ubuntu has no root login by default ? everything is via sudo ?
[04:04] <ic56> Paladine: please address the person to whom you are speaking so we know whose question you are answering
[04:04] <falfaro> try running "ls --color=auto"
[04:04] <vivek> can i have a root login ?
[04:04] <jersymike> no i kno psp uses a memory stick there like 1gb
[04:04] <Paladine> falfaro, that worked, I need to get a new bashrc
[04:05] <Taza> *shrugs* Never used a psp, but if it's got an USB connector, it prob fits.
[04:05] <falfaro> you can add the following line to ~/.bashrc: alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[04:05] <IcemanV9> !root > vivek
[04:05] <ic56> Paladine: edit your ~/.bashrc  Inside add a line like this: alias ls='/bin/ls --color=auto'.  This will fix your problem permanently
[04:05] <sysKin> can I define my shortcut keys to run applications/commands I want
[04:05] <Paladine> yeah thanks man
[04:05] <falfaro> and also, add "eval `dircolors -b`"
[04:06] <Paladine> I made a boo boo the other day and rm'd /var/sid-i386-chroot/ without unmounting /home and /tmp first
[04:06] <Paladine> so I ended up rm'ing half my homedir before I realised
[04:06] <Taza> jersymike: Here's some examples: http://images.google.com/images?q=usb+memory+stick
[04:06] <jersymike> taza: can u give me the link for the knoppix image that would work with the non hdd set up?
[04:07] <jersymike> yeah thats them
[04:07] <ic56> a2xm: Paladine: that's what backups are for!
[04:07] <Taza> jersymike: I don't know of a knoppix image that wouldn't. ( http://www.knoppix.org/ )
[04:07] <Paladine> ic56, backups pffft, where's the fun in backups?
[04:07] <ic56> Paladine: that's what backups are for!  You should do them daily
[04:07] <dr_willis> Backup all your Porn!
[04:07] <dr_willis> :)
[04:07] <jersymike> ok
[04:08] <Taza> jersymike: However, there's also #knoppix on freenode, I doubt #ubuntu is the place for discussion about knoppix. :p
[04:08] <dv_> anyone knows a good UML modeling package for linux?
[04:08] <ic56> Paladine: backups are fun! floppy after hundredth floppy you can hear your little drive spin up, whish-whish-whish.... then spin down!
[04:09] <jersymike> wow now im downloading fast
[04:09] <jersymike> las night i was slow as heck now im at 440kb/sec
[04:11] <Giorgos[a] > can i ask sth cause noone is there ton answer in the kvirc room
[04:11] <Giorgos[a] > anyone using kvirc?
[04:11] <jersymike> taza: what one should i chose on this site? ftp://ftp.cise.ufl.edu/pub/mirrors/knoppix/
[04:12] <Tommy2k4> how can i reencode an mp3 to a lower bitrate mp3
[04:13] <ic56> a2xm: ok sudo gedit /etc/fstab  and comment out the entries for the 3 unwanted filesystems, by putting a sharp in from of each line. Eg: # /dev/hdb1 ...
[04:13] <tom12519> Does anybody have a GP2X/
[04:13] <Giorgos[a] > anyone knows how i can change the BAN MASK in kvirc.it bans *!ident@*.host and this is not helpfull
[04:13] <ic56> a2xm: while you're there, delete the comments about "winmac_fstab" -- they're junk and annoying to anyone else you might call upon for help
[04:13] <jersymike> taza: or should i use this? http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/
[04:14] <vivek> i have ubuntu up and runnig on my system now .. but it can't seem to resolve outside urls... it can ping the internal routers. ... ( i have two routers ... Internet--router/modem/----router ----wired --- ubuntu ... how do i get it to resolve dns ?
[04:14] <erUSUL> vivek: are you using dhcp? or static ip?
[04:14] <vivek> erUSUL: dhcp on both the routers ...
[04:14] <livingdaylight> Hi Guys!!! i just got back from a successful hunt. I got an INVIDIA 6600gt graphics card. NOW, errrhum....how do i install it?  :o
[04:15] <vivek> livingdaylight: cool
[04:15] <Giorgos[a] > anyone knows how i can change the BAN MASK in kvirc.it bans *!ident@*.host and this is not helpfull
[04:15] <vivek> livingdaylight: nvidia drivers are not that bad compared to the ati drivers ;)
[04:15] <livingdaylight> My motherboard has onboard integrated graphics card and i was told to go  into the bios to switch it off, but i see nothing nowhere in the bios to do this, any help?
[04:15] <erUSUL> vivek: post the contents of /etc/resolv.conf in a pastebin
[04:15] <erUSUL> !nvidia
[04:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:16] <forrest> is it true that if you use aptitude, you cant use apt-get?
[04:16] <riddlebox> livingdaylight, I believe its just apt-get install nvidia-glx or something like that
[04:16] <Paladine> anyone know what .rnd is in my home dir? it is a root owned file looks like it is a binary too
[04:16] <morrolan> forrest: not at all
[04:16] <livingdaylight> riddlebox: just slot the agp graphics card install the nvidia drivers and ubuntu will pick it up?
[04:16] <morrolan> forrest: of course you can use both together - that's\ the beauty of linux, using 1 program usually doesn't prohibit ot mess-up another
[04:16] <forrest> morrolan: where does aptitude record which pakages were automaticly installed and which manually?
[04:16] <frogzoo> vivek: your problem is that your ubuntu's dns server comes from dhcp -> dhcp router #2 -> dhcp router #1      I'm thinking router #2 has the wrong dns setting
[04:17] <Giorgos[a] > anyone using KVIRC?
[04:17] <Taza> jersymike: KNOPPIX_V4.0.2CD-2005-09-23-EN.iso , I believe.
[04:17] <ic56> Paladine: no .rnd in my ubuntu 5.10 homedird
[04:17] <riddlebox> livingdaylight, yeah put it in the pc, then you will install the drivers, and do a command like nvidia-glx enable or something like that then restart and you should see the nvidia logo
[04:17] <morrolan> --help
[04:18] <livingdaylight> riddlebox: ok, i'll give that a go
[04:18] <jersymike> taza: what site is that off of?
[04:18] <morrolan> forrest: I think it's /etc/aptitude
[04:18] <riddlebox> livingdaylight, there was a link put up by erUSUL that will help you as well
[04:18] <forrest> thanks
[04:19] <Giorgos[a] > anyone using KVIRC?
[04:19] <jersymike> nvm
[04:19] <Deanodriver> 'you do not have permissions to write to this folder'
[04:19] <Deanodriver> bah
[04:19] <Deanodriver> stupid thing
[04:19] <Taza> jersymike: Do join #knoppix and ask there.
[04:19] <livingdaylight> riddlebox: where's that?
[04:19] <Deanodriver> (this is just using mount -t smbfs, not fstab)
[04:20] <jersymike> taza: ok
[04:20] <riddlebox> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:20] <riddlebox> livingdaylight, there
[04:20] <vivek> erUSUL: i have nameserver set to the second router ip there ... just looking for a paste bin ...
[04:20] <livingdaylight> riddlebox: ok, thx
[04:20] <vivek> frogzoo: how do i check that ?
[04:21] <miL> hi people
[04:21] <miL> do you know if www.goear.com it has something to see with youtube?
[04:21] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[04:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:22] <Deanodriver> hmm
[04:22] <erUSUL> vivek: and there is a nameserver running in that router?
[04:22] <Deanodriver> if i change the permissions of a directory, it says permission denied, even if i'm using sudo, why could that be?
[04:22] <vivek> erUSUL: yes i have dropped in the nameserver settings on the router
[04:23] <livingdaylight> not sure i know where to connect the graphics power to on the motherboard?  :|
[04:23] <vivek> erUSUL: if i change the nameserver settings on ubuntu it works ... (ie i drop in the dns of my isp in resolv.conf ...
[04:23] <Giorgos[a] > anyone using KVIRC?
[04:23] <vivek> that's not the right way to go about it is it ? ...
[04:23] <shukhrat> compliler C/C++ fo Ubuntu ?
[04:24] <bbrazil> shukhrat: build-essential
[04:24] <erUSUL> vivek: yes but the router assings its ip as the nameserver not the ips of the nameservers you configured if i understand correctly?
[04:24] <vivek> the other equipment connected to router 2 are happy with the dns settings .. (my voip box and this laptop ...) not sure why ubuntu is not happy
[04:24] <shukhrat> build_essential ?
[04:24] <Giorgos[a] > anyone using KVIRC?i need help
[04:25] <shukhrat> is Ubuntu have compiler for C/C++ ?
[04:25] <vivek> erUSUL: not sure i get you .. how do i check what ip the router has assigned ?
[04:25] <vivek> erUSUL: resolv.conf by default had 192.168.1.1
[04:25] <snoops> shukhrat as bbrazil said, install build-essential for compilers such as gcc
[04:26] <vivek> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/748703
[04:26] <bbrazil> snoops: well, build-esssential only has gcc really
[04:26] <shukhrat> oops
[04:26] <Deanodriver> sigh
[04:26] <Deanodriver> nothing i do can get it working
[04:26] <snoops> thought it came with more bbrazil.. thanks
[04:26] <Deanodriver> all the time, when i try to write, it says that i don't have permissions to write to it
[04:26] <Giorgos[a] > erUSUL r u familiar with kvirc?
[04:26] <erUSUL> vivek: but does the router has a nameserver running
[04:26] <erUSUL> ?
[04:27] <knownot> i'm having problems with ubuntu on a dual core 805, specifically only one core is working, I can boot into linux-image-i386 fine, but when i ty linux-image-686 it hangs just after the grub screen. If I disable apic in my bois, the 686 image will boot, but with only one cpu
[04:27] <erUSUL> Giorgos[a] : sorry no irssi and xchat here
[04:27] <ThunderStruck> bbrazil: build-essential has alot fo stuff including make and gcc
[04:27] <bbrazil> snoops: make, gcc, g++ and libc-dev
[04:27] <bbrazil> and dpkg-dev
[04:27] <Giorgos[a] > well i will need ur help with irssi
[04:27] <Giorgos[a] > let me tell ya what error i get
[04:27] <vivek> erUSUL: i have an openwrt router and i have dropped in the dns addresses in there ...
[04:28] <Giorgos[a] > erUSUL i run ./configure and i get this
[04:28] <Giorgos[a] > configure: error: Terminfo/termcap not found - install ncurses-devel package
[04:28] <Giorgos[a] > and i cannot find that with apt-cache
[04:28] <Giorgos[a] > or synaptic
[04:28] <erUSUL> Giorgos[a] : the version in repos does not work for you?
[04:29] <erUSUL> !repositories > Giorgos[a] 
[04:29] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[04:29] <Deanodriver> i give up
[04:29] <skavenge> probably a simple question but konquerer isnt previewing my videos, do i have to turn this on/set this up?
[04:29] <Deanodriver> i'll take the hdd out of my server, put it in this, and copy the files over that way
[04:30] <erUSUL> vivek: the router should give you those adresses and not its adress as nameserver afaics
[04:30] <Deanodriver> i'm loath to do it, though
[04:30] <vivek> erUSUL: maybe i need to restart my router or something let me try that ..
[04:30] <bbrazil> Giorgos[a] : libncurses5-dev maybe?
[04:31] <knownot> skavenge: did you read the wiki entry on codecs?
[04:32] <knownot> no-one can help with my problem?
[04:32] <skavenge> knownot: uh yeah, i installed the lib i cant find that option to turn iton though
[04:33] <DeejayEmme> irc://irc.criten.net/Overflow
[04:33] <mikechml> er
[04:34] <knownot> no one?
[04:34] <Giorgos[a] > knownot it worked.after i run make and make install what do i type to start irssi?
[04:35] <sri_> Knonot what is ur problem?
[04:35] <bbrazil> Giorgos[a] : eh, irssi is in ubuntu
[04:35] <Giorgos[a] > not the terminal one;)
[04:35] <Giorgos[a] > the one i downloaded from the site the graphical one
[04:35] <knownot> i'm having problems with ubuntu on a dual core 805, specifically only one core is working, I can boot into linux-image-i386 fine, but when i ty linux-image-686 it hangs just after the grub screen. If I disable apic in my bois, the 686 image will boot, but with only one cpu
[04:35] <hastesaver> Help! I just destroyed my /mnt directory... what do I do?
[04:35] <vivek> erUSUL: tnx it worked after the reboot
[04:36] <knownot> hastesaver: try sudo mkdir /mnt
[04:36] <erUSUL> knownot: you need a smp version of the kernel
[04:36] <erUSUL> vivek: no problem
[04:36] <bbrazil> Giorgos[a] : it's the text one for me on dapper
[04:36] <knownot> erUSUL: I have one
[04:36] <hastesaver> "mkdir: cannot create directory `mnt': File exists". Should I remove it and try again?
[04:36] <knownot> the linux-image-2.6.15-26-686 is SMP
[04:36] <knownot> hastesaver: no
[04:37] <Giorgos[a] > erUSUL i downloaded the graphical ver of irssi.configured it make and make install done
[04:37] <Giorgos[a] > now what?:P
[04:37] <knownot> hastesaver: what do you mean destroyed?
[04:37] <Giorgos[a] > when i type irssi it starts the text one
[04:37] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : type irissiTABTAB and see what comes up
[04:37] <erUSUL> knownot: linux-686-smp
[04:38] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : should be something like irissi-gnome
[04:38] <erUSUL> Giorgos[a] : run it from a terminal 'irssi'
[04:38] <hastesaver> I installed "gmailfs", and I executed this: (sudo mount.gmailfs none /mnt -o username=gmailuser@gmail.com,fsname=zOlRRa -p) as given in the doc. That was stupid, I guess... :(
[04:38] <erUSUL> Giorgos[a] : irssi is curses mode only afaik
[04:38] <bbrazil> Giorgos[a] : The GTK and GNOME versions of irssi haven't been developed since early 2000, and currently lack much of irssi-text's functionality.
[04:38] <hastesaver> It tried to make /mnt the mountpoint of something, I think
[04:38] <bbrazil> Giorgos[a] : from description in sarge
[04:39] <a2xm> ic56: sorry, i was on the phone
[04:39] <ic56> a2xm: ok sudo gedit /etc/fstab  and comment out the entries for the 3 unwanted filesystems, by putting a sharp in from of each line. Eg: # /dev/hdb1 ...
[04:39] <a2xm> ic56: ok, i commented out
[04:39] <rowanjl> Hey, does anyone know if there is a repo with Mono 1.1.16? I need to upgrade, but don't want to use the installer, because it tends to make a mess.
[04:39] <ic56> a2xm: while you're there, delete the comments about "winmac_fstab" -- they're junk and annoying to anyone else you might call upon for help
[04:39] <a2xm> ic56: i did it too
[04:39] <Giorgos[a] > erUSUL i runned it from terminal but is starts the non-graphic mode
[04:39] <hastesaver> knownot, can you help?
[04:40] <a2xm> ic56: save it and exit... and then..
[04:40] <iBrood> can someone help a newbie set up mysql?
[04:40] <iBrood> I installed apache and php5 successfully
[04:40] <knownot> erUSUL: there is no smp linux-image in my repos
[04:40] <erUSUL> Giorgos[a] : this is what i use the text version
[04:40] <iBrood> using apt-get
[04:40] <iBrood> then as per ubuntuguide.org I also installed mysql
[04:40] <ic56> a2xm: ok. now: sudo umount /dev/hdb[156] 
[04:41] <iBrood> but how do I configure the path and all?
[04:41] <knownot> hastesaver: know why my box wont work with smp
[04:41] <erUSUL> knownot: my mistake sorry the 686 kernel should work in smp hardware
[04:41] <tufsy> hi is there an equivalent program in linux for adobe audition/cool edit pro?
[04:41] <tufsy> !xgl
[04:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:41] <erUSUL> tufsy: audacity?
[04:41] <hastesaver> knownot, sorry, I'm too poor for this barter system to work :(
[04:42] <a2xm> ic56: cool... ;-)
[04:42] <bbrazil> iBrood: why not just use the ubuntu package?
[04:42] <a2xm> ic56:  that's it?
[04:42] <knownot> hastesaver: lol
[04:42] <ic56> a2xm: yes, that's it
[04:42] <iBrood> bbrazil:which package?
[04:42] <hastesaver> knownot, but do you have an idea what will happen now? I'm afraid of rebooting...
[04:43] <knownot> the linux-image-2.6.15-26-686 is labeled by apt as " Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP"
[04:43] <bbrazil> iBrood: mysql-server
[04:43] <iBrood> I used the apt-get command in ubuntu. doesnt that have the same effect?
[04:43] <iBrood> will it auto-configure?
[04:43] <a2xm> ic56: btw, what is the best way to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[04:43] <bbrazil> iBrood: it's just the binaries
[04:43] <knownot> hastesaver: what is mounted under /mnt usually?
[04:43] <ic56> a2xm: aren't you already on 6.06?
[04:43] <iBrood> ok
[04:43] <iBrood> I'll try
[04:43] <knownot> hastesaver:  nothing of importance to system booting usually
[04:43] <bbrazil> knownot: whatever you've currently got temporarily mounted
[04:44] <rowanjl> Nobody uses 1.1.16?
[04:44] <rowanjl> mono 1.1.16
[04:44] <knownot> bbrazil: was a specific question to hastesaver
[04:44] <a2xm> ic56: yes, i just curious, because i did it using the install icon from the desktop.. i heard it should be using apt-get upgrade?
[04:44] <jersymike> omg i havea mouse
[04:44] <miL> do you know if www.goear.com it has something to see with youtube?
[04:44] <knownot> erUSUL: any other ideas?
[04:44] <jersymike> but thats all so far lmao
[04:45] <bbrazil> iBrood: if you already apt-got it then it should all just work (tm)
[04:45] <ic56> !upgrade
[04:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[04:45] <knownot> jersymike: thats very observant
[04:45] <hastesaver> knownot, nothing in my /etc/fstab, and nothing listed by "mount". Does this mean it's safe??
[04:45] <DaveyJ> i messed up my volume control and i dont know how to fix it :(
[04:45] <Ropechoborra> !paste
[04:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:45] <knownot> hastesaver: most probably
[04:45] <ic56> a2xm: got that?
[04:45] <erUSUL> knownot: sorry mo, maybe you should consider compiling your own?
[04:45] <erUSUL> !kernel
[04:45] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:45] <jersymike> ahhhhh i have something besides text on my screen
[04:46] <hastesaver> What do you get if you do "ls /mnt"? What's supposed to be in there?
[04:46] <Ropechoborra> Can anyone help me installing a program?? plz see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18084
[04:46] <knownot> erUSUL: compiling a kernel is easy enough, I would prefer to stay with the packaged version though, this may become a production machine
[04:46] <knownot> hastesaver: nothing
[04:46] <knownot> hastesaver: ubuntu seems to use /media for most stuff
[04:47] <hastesaver> knownot, yes, thankfully. Nothing at all in your /mnt? That's a relief :)
[04:47] <squidgy> Hi!  How does one make TAB-completion in bash successively fill in the completion possibilities rather than just printing a list of possible completions?
[04:47] <knownot> erUSUL: and I sleep easier knowing I havn't missed something
[04:47] <a2xm> ic56: i see
[04:47] <erUSUL> knownot: maybe booting with acpi=off help
[04:48] <hastesaver> squidgy, you want it to fill *all* the completions?
[04:48] <vivek> can dyndns help me get access to my pc which is configured (Internet--AdslModem/Router---Openwrtrouter--pc ... the basic objective is to ssh into my PC and edit the Openwrt router to end up with a Openwrt(running openvpn)--School(web proxy)--Internet---(HomeAdsl/router)--(openwrt router running openvpn) .... but i can't get back home untill the end of this semester ...
[04:48] <erUSUL> knownot: acpi is known to bo not reliable enough
[04:48] <jersymike> riddlebox: i put in the destop live cd and it went straight for loading something now im at a blank screen with a mouse.. did i do something wrong?
[04:48] <a2xm> ic56: what's this:  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[04:48] <knownot> erUSUL: I have tried that, but the funny thing is, that dapper amd64/em64t works properly
[04:48] <hawkaloogie> squidgy, it fills in the rest of the possibility when there's only one possibility left
[04:48] <Ropechoborra> Can anyone help me installing a program?? plz see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18084 dont know what to do
[04:48] <squidgy> hastesaver:  no, just the next one alphabetically each time I press TAB, replacing the last candidate it inserted each time.
[04:48] <a2xm> ic56: gksudo?
[04:49] <knownot> erUSUL: but I don't want the hassle of beta testing x64 system
[04:49] <riddlebox> jersymike, reboot it, then when the cd asks you which to start arrow down to the second choice
[04:49] <ic56> a2xm: man is your friend.  Do you know man?
[04:50] <jersymike> safe grafics mode?
[04:50] <knownot> vivek: most probably not, the firewall wont know what to do with the incomming ssh attempt, unless you have already set it up
[04:50] <squidgy> hawkaloogie:  yes...on some system (maybe a different shell?), I could just press TAB and it would cycle through the remainint possibilities one at a time, so that I didn't have to disambiguate by typing then next differentiating letter.  Much faster than how it's setup here.
[04:50] <jersymike> riddlebox: start in safe grafics mode?
[04:50] <vivek> knownot: the firewall @ school ? i need to tunnel out .. so what's the other alternative ?
[04:50] <rowanjl> hmm, what is the best way to find out if there is a repo for Ubuntu with newer versions of Mono? Are there any lists of alternative repos?
[04:50] <knownot> squidgy: you mean microsoft windows? :(
[04:50] <nowell> hi all
[04:51] <knownot> nowell: hi
[04:51] <nowell> if anyone has a second, I just installed ubuntu for the first time, and I can't seem to get it to let me use my second HDD
[04:51] <a2xm> ic56: yes, i know man ;-)
[04:51] <nowell> i keep getting unable to execute pmount
[04:51] <knownot> nowell: what is the error msg
[04:51] <squidgy> knownot:  windows might do that, yeah, but bash completion blows it out of the water.  I think maybe it was tcsh back in the day.
[04:51] <ardchoille> I find it both humourous and annoying that people come onto an irc network for no other reason than to run exploits and knock others off the network. I feel sorry for those sick people.
[04:51] <nowell> and that i don't have the permissions to browse that volume
[04:52] <knownot> squidgy: google bash complition
[04:52] <hastesaver> squidgy, It's possible in bash
[04:52] <Jamo> how do I add ssh security to cvsd?
[04:52] <ic56> a2xm: then man gksudo.  The answer is on the first line.
[04:52] <hastesaver> squidgy, you have to set up your .inputrc ...
[04:52] <knownot> nowell: you know how to use sudo ?
[04:52] <nowell> nope, unfortunately heh
[04:52] <nowell> i'm pretty new to linux
[04:52] <nowell> and I'm loving ubuntu, except for this one problem
[04:52] <jersymike> riddlebox: what is it doing now? it says oading hardwaredrivers and is stoped
[04:53] <nowell> since the second hdd has all my media on it
[04:53] <squidgy> hastesaver:  thanks for the tip.  I'll google it.  is .inputrc specific to bash completion, or is it used for other things?  (rather unspecific file name)
[04:53] <knownot> nowell: try typeing this at the terminal -> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[04:53] <jersymike> cough all his porn
[04:53] <nowell> actually
[04:53] <dek_aik> Ropechoborra: maybe you should "cd .." to get back to LMNE 1.0 folder..then do ./configure , make, sudo make install
[04:53] <nowell> now that you said that
[04:53] <hastesaver> squidgy, see http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2003/papers/bash_tips/
[04:53] <knownot> squidgy: other things/all things bash
[04:53] <nowell> i just realized i formatted all my porn...
[04:53] <jersymike> lol
[04:53] <nowell> now I'm sad
[04:53] <riddlebox> jersymike, just give it a minute
[04:53] <joycetick> hi, when trying to access my ubuntu computer from a windows computer i get "The account is not authorised to log in from this station", any ideas?
[04:53] <knownot> nowell: NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
[04:54] <jersymike> lolz
[04:54] <Ropechoborra> dek_aik Thanks!
[04:54] <Jamo> what is a chroot jail?
[04:54] <knownot> joycetick: google samba permissions
[04:54] <jersymike> ok now im back at that blank screen with jus a mouse
[04:54] <hastesaver> squidgy, better solution
[04:54] <hastesaver> squidgy, you just have to do: bind '"\t":menu-complete'
[04:54] <knownot> Jamo: it's a method of containing a app to only have access to what it needs to operate, no more
[04:55] <Ropechoborra> dek_aik when ./configure  File or Dir dont exist
[04:55] <squidgy> hastesaver:  sweet.  thanks.
[04:55] <nowell> it says can't find /dev/hdb1/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:55] <syndicate47> hi. i'm trying to replace "Remote Desktop" (vino-server) with vnc4server. while Remote Desktop shows the desktop, vnc4server opens a new session with only a terminal and does not show the panels or the background. can i change vncserver to show what is on the server's desktop instead?
[04:56] <squidgy> hastesaver:  oh yeah, that's the stuff.  Did you find that in the link you pasted?
[04:56] <hastesaver> Ok, I'll just delete my /mnt and restore it, what the heck... the file doesn't even exit for me to move it away
[04:56] <nowell> and the bad part about the porn format..is that I had pics of a lady friend of mine..that will either be impossible or really hard to get again
[04:56] <dek_aik> Ropechoborra: usually there's a README or INSTALL,  read that first
[04:56] <Ropechoborra> Theres nothing
[04:56] <Ropechoborra> =(
[04:56] <knownot> nowell: type it as I wrote it --> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt <-- without the "-->"
[04:56] <Ropechoborra> Already checked
[04:57] <knownot> nowell: think of the opertunities presented in getting them back
[04:57] <jersymike> riddlebox: now im at a screen where it says mindow mannager at the bottom and ubuntu at the top right
[04:57] <knownot> rowanjl:  what is the problem?
[04:57] <hastesaver> knownot, It's worse than that. I can't remove it, or move it, or anything. "cannot lstat `mnt': Input/output error". Do you know what to do now? :)
[04:57] <nowell> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:57] <vivek> 
[04:58] <dek_aik> Ropechoborra: try ls what do you have there
[04:58] <jersymike> should i be clicking something on this screen?
[04:58] <amgad> guys, can i copy the apt cache from one machine to another to say skip downloading updates and installed programs?
[04:58] <Ropechoborra> what?
[04:58] <knownot> hastesaver: it is a IDE drive, not SATA/scsi?
[04:58] <rowanjl> well, you see I need Mono 1.1.16, but I can't download the Mono Installer, and I can't find a repo with Mono 1.1.16
[04:58] <dek_aik> Ropechoborra: what files do you have there in LMME 1.0 folder
[04:59] <knownot> most filesystems are autodetected
[04:59] <Jamo> does anyone have experience setting up cvsd with ssh?
[04:59] <Ropechoborra> README (but its nothing important) and src
[04:59] <rowanjl> It takes a long time to download the Installer, and considering I have many of the things included in it already installed.
[04:59] <knownot> rowanjl: mono as in from the monowall project?
[04:59] <rowanjl> Er, the Mono project
[04:59] <nowell> hmm, what should i do now Knownot. It's asking to specify the filesystem type
[05:00] <n9urk> Can anyone in here help me with Audacity?
[05:00] <rowanjl> I have no idea what Monowall is
[05:00] <dek_aik> Ropechoborra: does it says anything about install step in README?
[05:00] <knownot> nowell: what type of filesystem is it? ntfs/fat/fat32/ext ???
[05:00] <rowanjl> Mono == .NET Framework
[05:00] <Ropechoborra> dek_aik no. just the author and his webpage..
[05:00] <shriphani> guys i am installing xfce will i then be able to use apps like skype etc. that i used in gnome ?
[05:00] <bbrazil> shriphani: everythign should work as it did in gnome
[05:00] <nowell> ok, ntfs, just add that to the end of the sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt?
[05:01] <knownot> rowanjl: soz no idea
[05:01] <jersymike> hmph
[05:01] <rowanjl> hmm
[05:01] <knownot> nowell: type it as I wrote it --> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt -t ntfs<--
[05:01] <shriphani> will i then lose access to gnome ?
[05:01] <CaptainChris> hi all
[05:01] <XiXaQ> what is the quickest way to set up an ftp?
[05:01] <XiXaQ> server.
[05:02] <syndicate47> hi. i'm trying to replace "Remote Desktop" (vino-server) with vnc4server. while Remote Desktop shows the desktop, vnc4server opens a new session with only a terminal and does not show the panels or the background. can i change vncserver to show what is on the server's desktop instead?
[05:02] <knownot> XiXaQ: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[05:02] <bbrazil> rowanjl: monowall is a firewall distrobution
[05:02] <livingdaylight> hi! ok, i installed nvidia glx but i get a blank screen upon reboot,so i had to take graphics card out. Any ideas?
[05:02] <rowanjl> bbrazil: just googled it ;)
[05:02] <FunnyLookinHat> XiXaQ, sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[05:02] <FunnyLookinHat> XiXaQ, sudo reboot
[05:02] <nowell> knownot: Special device does not exist
[05:02] <shriphani> bbrazil, will i then be able to use gnome ?
[05:02] <bbrazil> rowanjl: my isp decided that 1 hour was enough time to have an ip address :)
[05:02] <knownot> FunnyLookinHat: you don't need to reboot
[05:02] <dek_aik> Ropechoborra: sorry i dont know what to do next...maybe just a simple compilation of C program...i dont remember how to do that, only done it once
[05:02] <FunnyLookinHat> knownot, it's easier than explaining to someone how to start a service.
[05:02] <Jamo> how do I change the root's password, err sudo's password, so it isn't the same as my user account? *hasn't this occurred to anyone as being a stupid idea?
[05:03] <Ropechoborra> dek_aik ok ty
[05:03] <hastesaver> knownot, I fixed my system, and all it took was a "umount /mnt". Thanks for the hints, and sorry I can't help you with smp :)
[05:03] <bbrazil> Jamo: that's not how sudo works - you give it your password
[05:03] <nowell> hmmm. it looks like it's mounted the HDD but it keeps telling me i don't have the permissions to access it
[05:03] <knownot> FunnyLookinHat: v/pro ftpd is started by dpkg isn't it?
[05:03] <dpn> Whats the best mp3 player?  Xmms isn't playing out of my rear speakers and theres no option to enable them in the settings
[05:03] <bbrazil> Jamo: root doesn't have a password in ubuntu
[05:03] <Jamo> bbrazil, yes but my jamo user shouldn't have all that power
[05:03] <knownot> hastesaver: np
[05:03] <shriphani> dpn banshee is good
[05:03] <FunnyLookinHat> knownot, not sure.  can't remember, it's been a while since I installed it on my server
[05:03] <CaptainChris> i'm french and i speak not very english
[05:03] <linuxuser> how would i view klogd files?
[05:04] <bbrazil> Jamo: any account you use to acces root is equivilent from a security perspective
[05:04] <rowanjl> bbrazil: my ISP decided that it likes the idea of corrupting downloads... hence why I can't download the mono Installer :(
[05:04] <dpn> Thanks, I'll try it
[05:04] <hastesaver> Jamo, then make a new user who is not in "admin" group
[05:04] <knownot> linuxuser: tail -f /var/log/klogd
[05:04] <Jamo> bbrazil: this is a fundamental security flaw in sudo?
[05:04] <bbrazil> rowanjl: you must have dodgy hardware, TCP allows for that
[05:04] <linuxuser> thank you
[05:04] <Ropechoborra> CaptainChris #ubuntu-fr
[05:04] <Ropechoborra> ?
[05:04] <bbrazil> Jamo: no, a general security principle
[05:04] <knownot> linuxuser: or cat  /var/log/klogd | less
[05:04] <shriphani> erm will i be able to use gnome after i install xfce ?
[05:04] <bbrazil> rowanjl: unless they're *really* out to get you
[05:05] <bbrazil> shriphani: yes
[05:05] <Giorgos[a] > anyone knows what to do
[05:05] <Giorgos[a] > with this: ### Can not find the X libraries.
[05:05] <linuxuser> command not found
[05:05] <hastesaver> Jamo, no, this is how it's supposed to work --- you're admin, and can do root-y things with sudo. How's it different from knowing the root password? ;)
[05:05] <shriphani> oh so i should select at boottime ?
[05:05] <rowanjl> bbrazil: by corrupting I mean sending me the wrong packet every so often
[05:05] <FunnyLookinHat> rowanjl, tcp is supposed to account for that.
[05:05] <bbrazil> rowanjl: that happens, tcp has stuff to handle that
[05:05] <rowanjl> sometimes large files will download, other times not
[05:05] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : apt-get install xorg*-dev
[05:05] <rowanjl> bbrazil: but it doesn't :P
[05:05] <linuxuser> knownot: file not found message
[05:06] <bbrazil> rowanjl: are they sending RSTs?
[05:06] <Jamo> so I should create a psuedoroot user who has a root quality password, then use him to do admin level stuff?
[05:06] <FunnyLookinHat> rowanjl, try downloading it via a torrent, because that has a second line of error checking on bad downloads.
[05:06] <linuxuser> dapper runs like crap
[05:06] <bbrazil> Jamo: you can if you want
[05:06] <rowanjl> bbrazil: no idea
[05:06] <bbrazil> rowanjl: anything else, it should handle
[05:06] <knownot> linuxuser: if your using ubuntu, try the menu at the top of your screen--> system, administration, log viewer
[05:06] <rowanjl> FunnyLookinHat: yeah, thats a good idea, but it will still take me 12 hours
[05:06] <bbrazil> Jamo: at that point, just set a root password and only use root from the console
[05:07] <FunnyLookinHat> rowanjl, either way, it will work.  : )
[05:07] <nowell> knownot: It looks like the problem is somewhere in my permissions, not mounting the hdd
[05:07] <bbrazil> rowanjl: rsync?
[05:07] <CaptainChris> i have a problem with my locales on dapper drake ( system in english) UTF-8 but GNU solfege and azureus said locales: unsorpported locales.
[05:07] <hastesaver> Jamo, that's how it's set up by default, but if you're uncomfortable with it, just enable the root account (sudo passwd) and make a new powerless user :)
[05:07] <FunnyLookinHat> rowanjl, sounds like you should complain to your iSP
[05:07] <knownot> nowell: when you use sudo you are root. root = god
[05:07] <rowanjl> FunnyLookinHat: I did, and they said I was using the wrong browser...
[05:07] <Jamo> meh, clearly this is highly discouraged, the documentation doesn't do a good job of explaining why
[05:07] <CaptainChris> Ropechoborra, i come here to maitain my english
[05:07] <rowanjl> Supposedly it IE or its nothing
[05:08] <fourat> hello all
[05:08] <nowell> yea, heh but when i try to browse it from my places>computer it tells me i don't have permission for it
[05:08] <CaptainChris> anyone know the probleme
[05:08] <rowanjl> bbrazil: what is rsync?
[05:08] <fourat> i've got a very very bad experience with Ubuntu :( :( :(
[05:08] <dpn> Where do I configure audio options in Ubuntu
[05:08] <XiXaQ> I installed proftpd. Will it use my system accounts?
[05:08] <fourat> i saw that there were a 'hibernate' button, clicked on it and all went down
[05:08] <knownot> XiXaQ: yes.
[05:09] <fourat> fsck thrown 10000 errors
[05:09] <fourat> and my inodes are deleted :(
[05:09] <hastesaver> !sudo > Jamo
[05:09] <knownot> XiXaQ: might pay to do a quick google search for "ubuntu proftpd"
[05:09] <XiXaQ> what are the ports for ftp and ssh?
[05:09] <fourat> XiXaQ, 21 ftp 22 ssh
[05:09] <knownot> ftp 20/21 ssh 22
[05:09] <dpn> Anyone here able to get xmms to output to all 4 speakers with 5.1 speakers?
[05:09] <fourat> XiXaQ, grep ftp /etc/services
[05:09] <CaptainChris> anyone understand ?
[05:09] <dash`> can I update java via aptitude or synaptic?
[05:09] <knownot> fourat: ftp uses 20 as well
[05:09] <dpn> well, all 5
[05:09] <fourat> knownot, ftp-data
[05:10] <fourat> ok
[05:10] <knownot> CaptainChris: mabe you should try the C locale
[05:10] <jersymike> does ne one know a way to format my hdd? if it has no os on it
[05:10] <rockz> how i change the color of slab control center ?
[05:10] <Giorgos[a] > knownot next error : ### Can not find the qt .. header files.
[05:10] <Giorgos[a] > LooooooooooooooooL
[05:10] <fourat> is there a netinstall ISO for Ubuntu ?
[05:10] <fourat> or Kubuntu
[05:10] <CaptainChris> how ?
[05:10] <CaptainChris> by sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[05:10] <knownot> jersymike: sudo mkfs.(FSTYPE) /dev/(HDD)
[05:11] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : what are you building?
[05:11] <Giorgos[a] > kvirc 3.2.3
[05:11] <Giorgos[a] > LooooooooooooooooL
[05:11] <jersymike> hmm
[05:11] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : you can't use apt?
[05:11] <bbrazil> rowanjl: its for transfering files. it has various algorithms to only transfer the bits that need to be transfered.
[05:11] <Giorgos[a] > it wont find it;)
[05:11] <ThunderStruck> Giorgos[a] : no need for all the o's
[05:12] <hastesaver> !netinstall > fourat
[05:12] <bbrazil> rowanjl: so you could run it on a bad downlaod and use whaterver of it is valid
[05:12] <Giorgos[a] > yeah soz
[05:12] <rowanjl> bbrazil: interesting, could you suggest how I might use it?
[05:12] <bbrazil> rowanjl: first find a mirror that supports rsync
[05:12] <rowanjl> ahh :/
[05:12] <XGas> Errr, how do I install the C headers data for my release(any)
[05:13] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : pastbin you sources.list
[05:13] <fourat> wich is suiter to use ? KDE Kubuntu or GNOME Ubuntu ?
[05:13] <knownot> !pastebin
[05:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:13] <bbrazil> rowanjl: then rsync local.file rsync://server/path/to/file
[05:13] <ThunderStruck> Giorgos[a] : to maek it more clear please sont use multiple letters like that thank you
[05:13] <rowanjl> bbrazil: is there a simple way to check?
[05:13] <drbreen> !ltsp
[05:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about ltsp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:13] <XGas> Errr, how do I install the C headers data for my release(any)?
[05:13] <Giorgos[a] > ThunderStruck i turned it off
[05:13] <bbrazil> rowanjl: if it's a ubuntu file, ftp.heanet.ie should have it
[05:13] <hastesaver> fourat, Gnome is simpler to use. If you get sick of its simplicity and ease-of-use, try KDE
[05:13] <bbrazil> nosklo: not fully sure though, you could check the ubuntu mirrors list
[05:14] <rowanjl> bbrazil: I think the Ubuntu version is out of date
[05:14] <dmsantam> every now and then, my mouse pointer disapears. if i go to a virtual terminal (ctrl-alt-F5 for example) and then back to X, its back.
[05:14] <knownot> hastesaver: so you can spend countless hours configuring KDE to you likeing, I switched back to gnome :P
[05:14] <jersymike> ugh
[05:14] <bbrazil> rowanjl: what do you mean?
[05:14] <dmsantam> the mouse can still click on things, i just can't see the pointer. why might that be
[05:14] <Giorgos[a] > knownot  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18089
[05:14] <jersymike> this is makeing me madded and madded
[05:14] <CaptainChris> knownot ??
[05:14] <jersymike> eks
[05:14] <XGas> Where do I get the C header files?
[05:14] <bbrazil> Giorgos[a] : kvirc is in dapper
[05:14] <jersymike> mader and mader*
[05:14] <bbrazil> XGas: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:14] <rowanjl> bbrazil: well, I want Mono, but Ubuntu only has version 1.1.13
[05:15] <XGas> I just need the package name
[05:15] <Giorgos[a] > bbrazil it has the 3.2.0 i need the 3.2.3 ;)
[05:15] <XGas> no, the C header files for the kernel
[05:15] <knownot> CaptainChris: ?
[05:15] <XGas> not package
[05:15] <bbrazil> XGas: there's kernel headers packages
[05:15] <CaptainChris> i reconfigure local in C with sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales or sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf ?
[05:16] <dash`> can I update java via aptitude or synaptic?
[05:16] <Astinus-> Where do i put a process to always start when ubuntu starts?
[05:16] <XGas> whats the command, someone gave it to me yesterday, and I didn't write it dowm, and now cause I'm testing some software, its messed up, so I reinstall, so now I neeed the files again.
[05:16] <ThunderStruck> dash`: yes if there are upgrades for it
[05:16] <bbrazil> CaptainChris: locales
[05:16] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : does it need to be that specific version?
[05:16] <ThunderStruck> !headers
[05:16] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[05:17] <ThunderStruck> XGas: ^^^
[05:17] <bbrazil> rowanjl: grab the source and build then I guess
[05:17] <dash`> I was having troubles with Azureus, I have java 1.4.2 or something, and need 1.5.0_7 or something for it to work
[05:17] <CaptainChris> ok , i try
[05:17] <XGas> its goes like Linux-header-$(uname -r) <<<<-------Is this wrong?
[05:17] <dash`> but I do not really know where to look for those packages
[05:17] <Giorgos[a] > knownot yes cause 3.2.0 i cannot change banmasks
[05:17] <ThunderStruck> XGas: type uname -r in terminal tell me the output
[05:17] <phunkalicious> you can change it somehow
[05:17] <Giorgos[a] > and other staff that can be changed in 3.2.3
[05:18] <carthik> Astinus-, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[05:18] <XGas> Heh, its reinstalling now, so I'm just asking, I know what package its is, I just need the package files for the Ubuntu 6.06 release.
[05:18] <Jamo> how do I modify user's groups from command line?
[05:18] <Giorgos[a] > so knownot how can i install the  qt .. header files.
[05:18] <ThunderStruck> XGas: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.whatever kernel version
[05:18] <XGas> so is the command: Linux-header-$(uname -r) ?
[05:18] <Doat> Jamo: gpasswd
[05:18] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : try apt-get install qt-dev
[05:19] <nordle> Is there an _easy_ way to obtain the FULL list of updates since 6.0.6 was released?  I ask becuase suse has a seperate repo called updates, so its easy, but last time I checked ubuntu appeared to require downloading the full 4GB repo or..... thanks.
[05:19] <XGas> I skiped the sudo apt-get install
[05:19] <Jamo> doat: thx
[05:19] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : can it be 3.2.0?
[05:19] <Doat> np
[05:19] <XGas> nvm
[05:19] <XGas> Thanks for the help.
[05:19] <XGas> see ya.
[05:19] <Giorgos[a] > knownot i have 3.2.0 but it doesnt have many options that i need
[05:19] <ThunderStruck> XGas: the $(uname -r) means to put the output of uname -r there
[05:19] <CaptainChris> that goes, i speak well english ? you understand me ?
[05:19] <carthik> Jame, adduser is what you want... add a user to a group
[05:19] <knownot> Giorgos[a] : k
[05:19] <carthik> Jamo, adduser is what you want... add a user to a group
[05:20] <dash`> can anybody tell me where to look to find a newer version of java for Ubuntu?
[05:20] <ThunderStruck> dash`: in synaptic its 1.5
[05:21] <ThunderStruck> dash`: its in the multiverse repo
[05:21] <FunnyLookinHat> dash`, are you using sun-java5-jre ?  that's the best u can get technically b/c it's from sun
[05:21] <nowell> knownot: new problem..I got in to browse the hdd..but nothing is showing up
[05:21] <Jamo> !java dash'
[05:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about java dash' - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:21] <knownot> nowell: ?
[05:21] <dash`> I don't know what I have atm
[05:21] <Jamo> !dash' java
[05:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about dash' java - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:21] <Jamo> great
[05:21] <trispace> is there a vmware-player-kernel-modules package for kernel 2.6.15-26?
[05:21] <carthik> Jamo !tell dash` about java
[05:21] <UKMatt> I know windows uses NTFS, and ubuntu uses ext3, but why is that?  why doesn't linux or osx use ntfs?
[05:21] <dash`> Jamo :: its a ` not a ' :P
[05:21] <ThunderStruck> !java
[05:21] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:22] <Jamo> dash': there is a java page on help.ubuntu.com that somewhat explains it, I just dealt with it let me know if you have any problems
[05:22] <nowell> knownot: I'm no longer getting an error when i browse the HDD, but it's showing 0 files, but over 140gigs used
[05:22] <carthik> UKMatt, it is rather like why Germany does'nt adopt English
[05:22] <lopzided> what file do i edit to add an event to cron?
[05:22] <knownot> nowell: soz, battery flat, will be dc'd soon
[05:22] <carthik> lopzided, use crontab -e
[05:22] <phaedrus44> trispace: isnt called vmplayer?
[05:22] <trispace> lopzided: add one in /etc/cron.d
[05:22] <carthik> that's the command, lopzided
[05:23] <knownot> nowell: are you sure it's ntfs?
[05:23] <UKMatt> carthik, but isn't one of the major problems for linux the fact that it has a hard time interacting with windows?  wouldn't it make sense to "adopt english" to help more people convert?
[05:23] <lopzided> tjamls carthik, trispace
[05:23] <nowell> positive
[05:23] <trispace> phaedrus44: ?
[05:23] <nowell> i've been using this hdd for a year now
[05:23] <knownot> nowell: and nothing is showing up in /mnt ?
[05:23] <lopzided> uhh....i mean 'thanks', carthik, Trinisan
[05:23] <carthik> UKMatt, would help if the filesystems (NTFS) didn't suck so bad... a lot of what Unix is about (permissions etc) is not supported by win filesystems
[05:23] <lopzided> *trispace
[05:23] <void^> UKMatt: sure, just ask microsoft if they're willing to give ntfs away for free
[05:24] <bbrazil> carthik: eh, ntfs has permissions
[05:24] <UKMatt> void^, ah thats what i thought it might be
[05:24] <riddlebox> knownot, wouldnt it be /media
[05:24] <UKMatt> what does OSX use?
[05:24] <bbrazil> UKMatt: hfs+ I think
[05:24] <phaedrus44> trispace: soory nevermind
[05:24] <void^> UKMatt: besides ntfs isn't better than ext3, reiser4 etc. or any other decent journaling fs
[05:24] <dash`> Jamo :: on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-12dfa90d1580b2a1d946cc628a1c0d2bdaa5b259 ?
[05:25] <Jamo> dash' yeah
[05:25] <UKMatt> how are they all different
[05:25] <carthik> bbrazil, yes, but they are different.
[05:25] <lopzided> what is the difference in cron.d, ccron.daily, cron.hourly, cron.monthly, crontab, and cron.weekly?  if i add an event to cron.monthly, does it run monthly?  in that case, what is cron.d?
[05:25] <bbrazil> carthik: they're ACLs
[05:25] <carthik> UKMatt, refer tot he wikipedia.
[05:25] <bbrazil> lopzided: cron.d is like extra crontabs
[05:26] <ddonky> what's the name of the ubuntu forums irc room?
[05:26] <bbrazil> ddonky: #ubuntuforums
[05:27] <carthik> UKMatt, but a simple answer to your question is that the creators of NTFS haven't made available all the information and permission for it to be used freely. Linux offers you a range of filesystems (I swear by jfs), any of which you can use to build your system.
[05:27] <vivek> knownot: er tunneling out of the school is not a big problem. ... i just need the config to let my pc accept ssh connections ... i am a bit confused as the pc is behind two routers ...
[05:27] <gimmulf> Hmm cant mount some partitions it just says: ount: you must specify the filesystem type   when doing:   sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hdb3
[05:27] <ddonky> bbrazil - thanks, for some reason I thought it had a - in the name
[05:28] <trispace> gimmulf: try mount -t auto /dev/hda3 /mnt/hdb3
[05:28] <UKMatt> carthik, what do you like about jfs, i have ext3 on ubuntu and I really don't see any difference in the way it runs from ntfs, except that like you said permissons and all
[05:28] <gimmulf> trispace:  same error
[05:28] <trispace> gimmulf: or specify the filesystem you're using
[05:28] <bbrazil> ddonky: it's not an official channel, so it's lacking the -
[05:28] <carthik> gimmulf, or if you know the FS use -t ext3 or -t vfat for example
[05:29] <dash`> ok, I think I have it all tworking
[05:29] <dash`> how can I check it?
[05:29] <riddlebox> jersymike, hows that install going?
[05:29] <carthik> UKMatt, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 and a few other things that are probably just subjective
[05:30] <Jamo> how do I chage a user's group?
[05:31] <carthik> Jamo, read man useradd
[05:31] <carthik> Jamo, or use System->administration->users graphically
[05:31] <Jamo> wasn't helpful, nvm it was gpasswd I needed
[05:32] <sg1>  hello how do i open rar files, when i click them it says archive type not supported and i cannot find linuxrar deb anywhere?
[05:32] <UKMatt> carthik, to get the fs of your chosing, do you have to choose the distro that uses it or is there a way to change from within your own distro to another
[05:33] <santa99> sgl: there should be a package named rar
[05:33] <Jamo> there are soooo many obscure group names
[05:33] <carthik> UKMatt, initially, during install, you can manually choose the FS for your partitions
[05:33] <dash`> how do I check what version of java I have?
[05:34] <Jamo> java -version
[05:34] <jmac__> I am dual booting XP/NTFS and Ubuntu. I resized the NTFS volume but qtpart doesn't allow me to increase the size of the Ubuntu partition. Anyone know how this can be accomplished?
[05:34] <miL> do you know if www.goear.com it has something to see with youtube?
[05:34] <UKMatt> carthik, now i heard ext4 is out, any idea when that will be adopted?
[05:34] <dash`> hmm
[05:34] <rysiek|pl> is there an usplash-guru in the house?
[05:34] <dmsantam> jmac__, you have to not be using the partition
[05:34] <dmsantam> jmac__, this means use a livecd
[05:35] <dash`> I have tried to update java via the help page on ubuntu.com, but it apparently didn't upgrade
[05:35] <dpn> Sigh, why does everything in linux have to be a battle
[05:35] <sladen> rysiek|pl: just ask
[05:35] <jmac__> I tried it with gpart bottable disk and it wouldn't work
[05:35] <sladen> jmac__: gparted bootable disk? (?!)
[05:35] <JDStone> jmac__: boot a knoppix disc and use qtpart
[05:35] <dpn> Does anyone have any experience with xmms and getting 5.1 sound working without it being shitty sounding
[05:35] <sg1R>  hello how do i open rar files, when i click them it says archive type not supported and i cannot find linUXRAR DEB anywhere?
[05:36] <zammit> Hello, i'm attempting to install ubuntu on a system with no current OS, the desktop install keeps freezing at "Mounting root file system" - i'm new to linux in general, could anyone help me troubleshoot?
[05:36] <ompaul> dpn, please mind the langauge
[05:36] <rysiek|pl> I was trying to set my own usplash on Dapper (following the how-to from help.ubuntu.com, which - o, the irony! - I have written by myself for Breezy), made a typo somewhere and now I haven't got an usplash neither at boot nor at halttime
[05:36] <sladen> dpn: do you have your volume turned up too high, turn them all down to below 80%
[05:36] <ardchoille> !rar
[05:36] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:36] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[05:36] <jmac__> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:36] <[Ex0r] > anyone here care to help me setup postfix so I can send outgoing mail ?
[05:36] <a2xm_> !upgrade
[05:36] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:36] <Jamo> zammit: which partitioning option did you use?
[05:36] <UKMatt> carthik, have you seen this http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[05:36] <trispace> [Ex0r] : go ahead
[05:37] <zammit> jamo, i never got to specify any partitions.
[05:37] <sladen> rysiek|pl: check that you have an image that is exactly 640x400 and then run   sudo update-initramfs -u `uname -r`  at the end
[05:37] <rysiek|pl> update-a;ternatives --config usplash-artwork.so gives the choice as it should, dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` goes well, but no usplash on reboot
[05:37] <[Ex0r] > trispace- i've got postfix running, but I can't send outgoing mail. I tried emailing my yahoo account last night and never got the message
[05:37] <trispace> [Ex0r] : what do the logs say?
[05:37] <Jamo> zammit: you didn't get as far to even select which harddrive or partition to install on?
[05:37] <rysiek|pl> sladen: the image should be 640x480 IMHO. I have checked this while usplash was working AOK
[05:37] <[Ex0r] > trispace- nothing at all
[05:37] <zammit> jamo, no i did not
[05:38] <Jamo> zammit: are you sure the harddrive works?
[05:38] <zammit> jamo, i inserted the cd - got the install screen, chose the first option - that was pretty much it
[05:38] <rysiek|pl> sladen: ok, trying with update-initramfs
[05:38] <trispace> [Ex0r] : postfix always logs something
[05:38] <[Ex0r] > trispace- it did but didn't log any errors
[05:38] <zammit> jamo, i just bought the harddrive, wd 40gig, my motherboard detects it properly
[05:38] <trispace> [Ex0r] : just look again
[05:38] <dash`> I tried to upgrade java on my machine via the help page on ubuntu.com, but it apparently didn't upgrade, am I missing something?
[05:39] <Jamo> dash`: what error are you receiving?
[05:39] <dash`> no error, but when I check the version, its the same as it was
[05:39] <johso> hiya ppl. I just did a "rm -r *" in the wrong directory. now, on a ext3 partition, this is usually the end of things. but I'm hoping that it would be possible to recover files on a fat32 drive? I've unmounted the drive, so that I wont accidentally destroy my chances to restore.
[05:39] <Jamo> zammit: perhaps try to find a disc you can boot into and check out the hard drive
[05:39] <sg1R>  hello how do i open rar files, when i click them it says archive type not supported and i cannot find linUXRAR DEB anywhere?
[05:39] <trispace> [Ex0r] : is there a "status=sent" message for the specific mail?
[05:40] <ardchoille> !rar > sg1R
[05:40] <Jamo> dash`: what version of java is it telling you that you have?
[05:40] <joycetick> you need to install the archive manager (i think), sudo apt-get install rar
[05:40] <dash`> 1.4.2
[05:40] <sladen> rysiek|pl: no.  the image should be 640x400.
[05:40] <zammit> jamo, okay i'll look into that, thanks for the help!
[05:41] <rysiek|pl> sladen: hmmm... cpio: ./usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so: No such file or directory
[05:41] <trispace> [Ex0r] : the postfix/smtp should log something like: to=<foo@bar>, relay=foo.bar[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] , delay=yy, status=sent
[05:41] <dash`> http://pastebin.arslinux.com/3520
[05:41] <Jamo> dash`: someone else is going to have to help you, I noticed this same problem when I tried to get java5 going on the desktop installation
[05:41] <dash`> for all the info
[05:41] <sladen> rysiek|pl: check that the image is exactly 640x400 and 16 colours
[05:41] <Sanne> johso: I once restored files on a fat32 partition I had deleted in Windows, and restored from within Windows. I don't know if this is an option for you.
[05:41] <sg1R> thank you
[05:41] <tom1502> does anyone knows which software ubuntu uses to realise Hibernation, and in which file i can set logfile and increase verbosity?
[05:41] <Jamo> dash`: it has java5 installed, it just also have 1.4.2 installed
[05:41] <trispace> [Ex0r] : grep your mail-log for the mailaddress
[05:42] <bbrazil> tom1502: it's in the kernel.
[05:42] <rysiek|pl> sladen: m'kay, creating a test image, 640x480, 16 colours
[05:42] <sg1R> another question about applications, is there any program like x netstat that shows active anv listening connections in a GUI interface?
[05:42] <dash`> Jamo :: shouldn't it default to the newer one then?
[05:42] <rysiek|pl> sladen: sorry, ...x400
[05:42] <tom1502> bbrazil, so no swsusp or suspen2?
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > damn I can't even remember where it's at :\
[05:42] <Jamo> dash`: I think someone made a mistake :(
[05:42] <fourat> why shipit.ubuntu.org does not ship dvds ?
[05:42] <bbrazil> tom1502: I'm not up in this area
[05:42] <trispace> [Ex0r] : look at your syslog configuration
[05:42] <ZorK-> Anyone got free time to help me, please PM me! My problem: When I <try> to install Ubuntu from LiveCD (pressing the install on desktop) all the 6 steps go through fine, i find the harddrive i want to install it on, i made a new harddrive to swap. But when i press finish and such, it says "openeing the partitioning program" and loads. but then it just closes and goes back to the desktop like nothing ever happened :/ Anyone know what the problem is
[05:42] <joycetick> sg1R: do this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_RAR_Archiver_.28rar.29
[05:43] <tom1502> bbrazil, do u know anyone i could ask?
[05:43] <Jamo> dash`: you probably no more about linux than me, maybe you can figure out how to uninstall 1.4
[05:43] <bbrazil> tom1502: acpi is probably what you should poke into, especially in /proc
[05:43] <johso> Sanne: Actually, I deleted Windows just yesterday, but I haven't installed anything on the partitiion yet. I could possibly install it again, but I was wondering if this would ruin my chances to restore things on the fat32 drive (in some weird way)?
[05:43] <dash`> Jamo ::  I doubt that
[05:43] <dash`> I have used it for 5 days now
[05:43] <trispace> [Ex0r] : syslogd-listfiles --weekly
[05:43] <tom1502> bbrazil, well i've found the file /etc/default/acpi-support, but i dunno the syntax to control log and verbosity...
[05:44] <tom1502> bbrazil, coz hibernation works... sometimes
[05:44] <wheelswitch> im trying to use crontab to schedual rhythmbox to open, but it isnt working
[05:44] <tom1502> bbrazil, and i want to find out what causes errors
[05:44] <Jamo> I wanna say 4 days for me :p I gave up on using ubuntu for my desktop somewhat because of the same problem you're running into now.  I'm using the server now which didn't come with 1.4 by default so 5 installed fine
[05:44] <bbrazil> tom1502: I imagine errros will be in dmesg
[05:44] <tom1502> bbrazil, not really
[05:44] <Sanne> johso: do you plan to install Windows to the same partition where you want to restore files on? If so, it would highly reduce your chances. You must not touch the partition, because the recoverable files could be overwritten.
[05:44] <wheelswitch> 43 * * * * /usr/bin/rhythmbox is the command im using, also tried 43 * * * * rhythmbox but that doesnt seem to work either, this ofcourse is displayed when i type crontab -l
[05:44] <[Ex0r] > ah, I think that's why
[05:44] <tom1502> bbrazil, well nothing i can really use
[05:44] <dek_aik> tom1502: maybe /etc/hibernation/hibernation.conf ?
[05:44] <lotwook> !microphone
[05:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about microphone - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:44] <[Ex0r] > no virtual.db table
[05:45] <sg1R> thanks
[05:45] <bbrazil> tom1502: ton of stuff in /etc/acpi
[05:45] <tom1502> dek_aik, nope, i dont have this folder
[05:45] <wheelswitch> !crontab
[05:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about crontab - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:45] <Redman276> i know  with  redhat there is  kudzu  , is ther a similar  autodetece / configur  program  to detect  new  hardware ?
[05:45] <tom1502> bbrail, mh good idea :-)
[05:45] <UltraMagnus> hi, could anyone help me with a problem please, when i suspend my laptop with ubuntu, when i resume and the password box comes up, neither my keyboard or touchpad works (laptop) however my external trackball works fine
[05:45] <dek_aik> tom1502: sorrry /etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf ?
[05:45] <[Ex0r] > trispace- isn't it makemap hash /map file ?
[05:45] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: that won't work, DISPLAY isn't set
[05:45] <johso> Sanne: No, on the same partition I used before. But I just want to make 100% sure that the fat32 drive is not affected in some weir way (by swapping empty space, what do I know) when I install Windows on the empty partition?
[05:46] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: what are you trying to do?
[05:46] <KeithWeisshar> why does the desktop cd install to the mbr without asking
[05:46] <trispace> [Ex0r] : no, postmap hashtype:filename
[05:46] <hastesaver> Has anyone got gmailfs working?
[05:46] <tom1502> dek_aik:
[05:46] <tom1502> thomas@toshiba:~$ ls /etc | grep hibern
[05:46] <tom1502> thomas@toshiba:~$
[05:46] <wheelswitch> bbrazil:  set up an alarm clock
[05:46] <KeithWeisshar> i have a new windows pc with a recovery partition and have created the recovery dvd
[05:46] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: use mpg321, doesn't need X
[05:46] <ZorK-> Anyone got free time to help me, please PM me! My problem: When I <try> to install Ubuntu from LiveCD (pressing the install on desktop) all the 6 steps go through fine, i find the harddrive i want to install it on, i made a new harddrive to swap. But when i press finish and such, it says "openeing the partitioning program" and loads. but then it just closes and goes back to the desktop like nothing ever happened :/ Anyone know what the problem is
[05:46] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: assuming an mp3 file
[05:47] <vook> here's an idea that is going to save me a lot of time in the future.  I've added this as the last line of my .bashrc     sudo chown myuser.myuser /home/myuser  It also adds an extra layer of shell security.
[05:47] <KeithWeisshar> i don't have fixmbr need to restore the windows mbr
[05:47] <wheelswitch> no easy way of getting rhythmbox to work?
[05:47] <vook> ooop, forgot the -r
[05:47] <zool2005> hi all
[05:47] <colk> KeithWeisshar, its in the windows recovery console
[05:47] <yabba> ZorK-, I also had problems with the live-CD install. its really no good solution, if everything fails you might want to try the alternative install cd
[05:47] <colk> you have to boot to that
[05:47] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: there is, but it depends on a pile of other stuff - like you being logged in
[05:47] <jeff_> does anybody know how to set alt+space as the access key for deskbar?
[05:47] <Sanne> johso: I don't know what Windows may do :). You will have to take your chances, I think. Isn't there some Windows live CD wioth recover tools? Would be handy for such cases.
[05:47] <hastesaver> vook, why do you need that? Those ownerships should be so by default. Why would they be different?
[05:47] <KeithWeisshar> i don't have a real windows cd
[05:48] <zool2005> can anyone tell me how to change the background behind the splash screen after login please?
[05:48] <KeithWeisshar> all i have is a burned recovery dvd from the recovery partition
[05:48] <wheelswitch> computer is always logged in, never sleeps. bbrazil
[05:48] <[Ex0r] > there, I got it to send mail out, now to get it to receive mail
[05:48] <Viper550> Guess what, USlab is getting closer to being a part of Ubuntu!
[05:48] <brrrt> how can i find out which kernel boot parameters are used at live-cd boot?
[05:48] <trispace> brrrt: cat /proc/cmdline
[05:48] <ZorK-> yabba: Thanks . going to download now :P
[05:48] <brrrt> thx!
[05:48] <KeithWeisshar> when it boots it asks if i want to restore my system
[05:48] <yabba> :)
[05:48] <Sanne> johso: wait!
[05:48] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: you can try adding DISPLAY=:0 to start of the crontab
[05:48] <KeithWeisshar> there is no recovery console on the dvd
[05:49] <vook> hastesaver, because the constant sudoing creates root ownership at times in home, plus, why not have another layer of security?  anyway...whatever :)
[05:49] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: *:0.0
[05:49] <johso> Sanne: Oh, yeah, you're reminding me of something - I once used Ultimate Boot CD to reformat a harddisk that was totally broken. I think there were some recovery tools on it too. I must try it out...
[05:49] <Sanne> johso: read this: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ it seems to have a recover tool, here: http://www.partition-recovery.com/
[05:49] <sg1R> hey does anyone know where i can get cdemu, Or any such application that is equivilant to Daemon Tools, THanks
[05:49] <Sanne> johso: lol, that's what it seems to be :)
[05:49] <johso> Sanne: lol, same conclusion ;)
[05:49] <bbrazil> sg1R: sudo mount /path/to/image /mnt -o loop
[05:49] <vook> hastesaver, it also sets up the shell for further sudoing...
[05:49] <Sanne> johso: so then, good luck!
[05:49] <dek_aik> tom1502: i control my hibernate from that conf but i think you should apt-get install hibernate..the config present the choice of suspend2, acpi and sys_fs_power_state
[05:50] <tom1502> sg1R, what do u want to do
[05:50] <johso> Sanne: thanks for the help, much appreciated. gonna take my chances now :P
[05:50] <wheelswitch> so the crontab file would read "DISPLAY=:0 \n 08 08 * * * runwhateverblah"  bbrazil ?
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > Why not just use Hiren's BootCD?
[05:50] <sg1R> tom mount cd images
[05:50] <Sanne> johso: :)
[05:50] <tom1502> dek_aik, do u use binary video drivers?
[05:50] <tom1502> sg1R, which type?
[05:50] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: It's ":0.0", I'm not fully sure this'll work
[05:50] <marcus__> can anybody tell me how to configure ubuntu so i can use my usb-modem avm fritz!box fon? Its a new dapper installation, kernel 2.6.15-23, modules cdc_ether and usbnet are loaded. booting knoppix, it orks out of the box...
[05:50] <KeithWeisshar> fixmbr isn't included with the gateway
[05:50] <sg1R> tom1502, iso,bin,cue,ccd etc
[05:51] <tom1502> sg1R if it is VCD/SVCD, u can open the .bin direcly with VLC
[05:51] <trispace> sg1R: you cannot mount cuesheets
[05:51] <[Ex0r] > wow.. that completely didn't work
[05:51] <tom1502> .cues do not work under unix
[05:51] <tom1502> trispace, thx :-)
[05:51] <sg1R> well tom1502, its more ISO and BIN than anything
[05:51] <tom1502> well, which CONTENT?
[05:51] <wheelswitch> bbrazil:  20 secs till we find out...
[05:51] <bbrazil> sg1R: for iso and bin, use the commadn I gave
[05:51] <dek_aik> tom1502: i dont know..lol..newb..but my card is nvidia-legacy from ubuntu repo..hibernate works very well with suspend2 or acpi
[05:51] <sg1R> Thanks I never knew VLCPLayer could do that, damn that things can do everything
[05:51] <morrolan> Since upgrading to Dapper, I cannot see colour when navigating files in Gnome Terminal (irc is fine)
[05:52] <[Ex0r] > postfix won't send the messages to the appropriate users
[05:52] <UltraMagnus> hi, could anyone help me with a problem please, when i suspend my laptop with ubuntu, when i resume and the password box comes up, neither my keyboard or touchpad works (laptop) however my external trackball works fine
[05:52] <sg1R> ive wrote it down bbrazil thanks, what exactly does that do make a fake drive or what?
[05:52] <wheelswitch> bbrazil:  genious, thanks heaps.
[05:52] <brrrt> what is the difference between live-cd and installations hardeware detection?
[05:52] <ardchoille> morrolan: Did you change the colours in your ~/.bashrc?
[05:52] <bbrazil> sg1R: makes the cd part image of the filesystem
[05:52] <tom1502> dek_aik, with sudo hibernate?
[05:52] <trispace> [Ex0r] : without showing some log information we can't help you
[05:52] <sg1R> ok thanks alot
[05:52] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: I don't think it's the right solution, but if it works...
[05:53] <tom1502> dek_aik, or do u use the GNOME GUI button "hibernate"?
[05:53] <[Ex0r] > trispace- It puts the messages on the server, but doesn't deliver them to the addresses
[05:53] <morrolan> ardchoille:  No I haven't, and I didn't before.
[05:53] <bbrazil> sg1R: linux doesn't have 'fave drives', just one big filesystem
[05:53] <bbrazil> sg1R: *fake
[05:53] <trispace> [Ex0r] : once again: show the logs and postfix configuration
[05:53] <sg1R> one of my last questions is, as asked before, MOnitoring software, Netstat related a GUI like X Netstat, and a app for monitoring everything processes etc,
[05:53] <ardchoille> morrolan: ok, I was just asking because I learned how to turn colours off in bash just yesterday
[05:54] <brrrt> my via-rhine works fine with the live-cd but not on the installation   :(   ...   any hints?
[05:54] <tom1502> sg1R, a task manager?
[05:54] <morrolan> ardchoille: ahh, ok.  I don't suppose you have a copy of your old .bashrc do you?
[05:54] <bbrazil> sg1R: top for processes, for network there's many options inculding ntop, iptraf, bmon, etherapr
[05:54] <morrolan> adrchoille: that's probably exactly what I need
[05:54] <dek_aik> tom1502: sorry, i use kubuntu..but for hibernate i make a script (the battery button is not showing)...hibernate is a symlink to /usr/share/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-hibernate
[05:54] <ardchoille> morrolan: I have a copy of the one that was shipped with Dapper. Want me to pastebin it?
[05:54] <tom1502> dek_aik, k
[05:54] <rysiek|pl> sladen: created a 640x400 16-colour image, update-initramfs -u `uname -r` still gives me this error
[05:54] <dek_aik> tom1502: yes sudo hibernate
[05:54] <tom1502> dek_aik, thx anyway
[05:55] <morrolan> ardchoille: please, but I don't know how to get it, new to irc
[05:55] <tom1502> dek_aik, ill try the hibernate script!
[05:55] <rysiek|pl> sladen: cpio: ./usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so: No such file or directory (and in fact this file does not exist O_o`)
[05:55] <ardchoille> morrolan: hold on :)
[05:55] <morrolan> ok
[05:56] <brrrt> is it possible to use the live-cd kernel with the installation?
[05:56] <wheelswitch> bbrazil:  perhaps it isnt, the command i really want to use is rhythmbox --play, but that brings up "The Application "rhythmbox" has quit unexpectedly." however it doesnt actually quit :S
[05:57] <Jamo> I just removed my jamo user from the admin group and added the admin user, then went to switch to the admin user but I had forgotten to set the admin password? now what? reinstall?
[05:57] <zool2005> can I change the background behind the splash screen after loginN
[05:57] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: something commandline based should work
[05:57] <ardchoille> morrolan: do: cp ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc.bak  Then see http://ardchoille.pastebin.com/
[05:57] <UltraMagnus> hi, could anyone help me with a problem please, when i suspend my laptop with ubuntu, when i resume and the password box comes up, neither my keyboard or touchpad works (laptop) however my external trackball works fine
[05:57] <bbrazil> Jamo: bott with the 'single' option
[05:57] <sg1R> there are alot of local exploits for linux lately i see :s
[05:57] <Jamo> boot you mean?
[05:58] <bbrazil> sg1R: mostly stcp which most people don't use
[05:58] <wheelswitch> bbrazil:  if i make a shell script to do it would that work, then run the shell script with crontab?
[05:58] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: should do
[05:58] <bbrazil> wheelswitch: to test, run it as 'env -i script.sh'
[05:58] <sladen> dek_aik: no.  sudo pmi action hibernate
[05:58] <ZorK-> yabba
[05:59] <tom1502> general question, is it normal, that with the recovery mode i am always root without any password?!
[05:59] <tom1502> well while booting
[05:59] <bbrazil> tom1502: yes
[05:59] <sladen> tom1502: well, of course
[05:59] <livingdaylight> help
[05:59] <ardchoille> tom1502: yes
[05:59] <tom1502> bbrazil, that sucks
[05:59] <morrolan> ardchoille:  thanks for that, I'll have a look
[05:59] <livingdaylight> can't install nivida on asus motherboard
[05:59] <sladen> tom1502: urm.  why?
[05:59] <bbrazil> tom1502: if you have physical access, you can do anything anyway
[05:59] <ardchoille> morrolan: You're welcome :)
[05:59] <tom1502> isnt that a sec.lack?
[05:59] <bbrazil> tom1502: no
[05:59] <sladen> tom1502: no.
[05:59] <tom1502> it eases access to my laptop
[06:00] <sladen> tom1502: remember, that the way people 'used' to have to do recovery was by booting with   linux init=/bin/sh
[06:00] <ZorK-> the alternate install cd downloadable from ubuntu.com, is that a non-live-cd? Because i need to install without the live cd
[06:00] <bbrazil> ZorK-: it's a non-graphical live cd
[06:00] <sladen> tom1502: give that you can do that anyway, we're about making it easier and safer when people truely do need recovery mode
[06:00] <yabba> thats a live cd, too?
[06:00] <dash`> how do I set file associations?
[06:00] <tom1502> sladen... well livecd and chroot?
[06:00] <bbrazil> tom1502: if someone has their hands on your laptop, it's already too late
[06:00] <Jamo> brazzil: how do I boot into single mode w/out grub(I'm assuming it isn't there since I only have 1 partition)
[06:00] <sladen> tom1502: alternatively, boot with a liveCD and you won't have to enter a password either
[06:01] <yabba> damn, they should really stop making live cds when people just want to install the system
[06:01] <ZorK-> Hmm.. But how do i get it, so its not live? Cause the live dont seem to work
[06:01] <sladen> tom1502: yes, and that requires having a CD doesn't it.  And extra knowledge.
[06:01] <bbrazil> Jamo: grub is there, it's at the very start of the disk before the partition
[06:01] <yabba> zork have another try with much of patience
[06:01] <yabba> and then do 1345 prayers if its done
[06:01] <Jamo> bbrazil: is there a key I can hold?
[06:01] <ZorK-> yabba: I did it more then 4 times now
[06:01] <ardchoille> dash`: You in gnome?
[06:01] <dash`> yep
[06:01] <livingdaylight> please, i am about to cry
[06:01] <ZorK-> does the same again and again
[06:01] <yabba> oh darn
[06:01] <wheels3572> Good afternoon All is there a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal window instead of always going into the GUI under applications?
[06:01] <livingdaylight>  :'(
[06:01] <sladen> tom1502: if you want to stop people selecting recovery mode, then set (1) a BIOS password to stop them booting of anything except the harddisk and (2) a grub password to only allow the first boot option
[06:01] <bbrazil> Jamo: I don't know for grub - tab at the right time?
[06:02] <yabba> zork, just try with this other alternative install
[06:02] <bbrazil> Jamo: if you have an install CD you can use that
[06:02] <ZorK-> okay, i will!
[06:02] <Jamo> wheels3572: go to system-> *or something* and go to shortcuts, and make one
[06:02] <ZorK-> bbl
[06:02] <ardchoille> dash`: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.FileAssociation
[06:02] <tom1502> sladen... well but will anyone without knowledge about chroot be able to recover in console??
[06:02] <Jamo> bbrazil: thx I'll try that
[06:02] <sladen> wheels3572: you can set a keyboard shortcut with  System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:02] <AV1611> sirs, can ahybody help me around with ubuntu graphical installer, please.....
[06:02] <wheels3572> Thanks Sladen and Jamo
[06:03] <sladen> tom1502: many people have simply forgotten their password will not have that knowledge, but will be able to follow the instructions to "run passwd in recovery mode"
[06:03] <AV1611> is there a way to define the mount point (within that installer; I can't set even / point)?
[06:04] <tom1502> well thats right, but forgetting the password is . *well other topic
[06:04] <AV1611> 2. why kubuntu's installer doesn't know anything about reiserfs?
[06:04] <sladen> AV1611: yes, the interface used is gparted or qtparted
[06:04] <AV1611> 3. is there a text-mode installer (at livecd)?
[06:04] <sladen> AV1611: the installer does know about reiserfs
[06:04] <sladen> AV1611: yes, the Alternate CD.
[06:04] <AV1611> kubuntu's one doesn't...
[06:05] <sladen> AV1611: we'll have to disagree about that then :)
[06:05] <AV1611> I;m sorry, but live-cd is the only one i have got here at the moment....
[06:05] <tom1502> can anyone could tell me why loading hw-drivers on bootup takes horribly long ~+2min
[06:05] <sladen> tom1502: if it's taking 2 minutes, you probably have some particularly funky hardware and requries workarounds, please file a bug in on launchpad
[06:06] <wheels3572> Can someone point me to the right area on how to be able to see my laptop on my home  network?
[06:06] <tom1502> sladen, which log tells me about?
[06:06] <sladen> wheels3572: plug in ethernet cable, assume that the network DHCP's
[06:06] <sri_> Hi!i am new to linux;and i exicute a C program by typing "cc filename .c-o filename "But how to see the out put?I tried "a.out"....
[06:06] <sladen> wheels3572: System->Administration->Networking will help you configure anything more complicated
[06:06] <AV1611> no alternate cd is available here at my library....
[06:06] <wheels3572> Ok that's right cuz I cant get my wireless card to work Stupid BCM card GRRRRR
[06:06] <tom1502> sri_ gotta make the file executable
[06:07] <tom1502> so chmod u+x yourfile
[06:07] <ardchoille> sri_: the compiler should have written a file called a.out, which is the output of the assembler
[06:07] <wheelswitch> bbrazil:  doesnt seem to like it :(. Oh well ill go with mpg321
[06:07] <sri_> tom1502, how?
[06:07] <sladen> AV1611: the Alernate CD is not shipped by default anymore, now that we have the Desktop CD
[06:07] <tom1502> sri_ chmod u+x yourfile
[06:07] <crazy4ubuntu> hi all
[06:07] <sri_> tom1502, i will try it....1m
[06:07] <livingdaylight> does someoen want to help me?
[06:08] <tom1502> ardchoille, well the c compiler still defaultly names the files a.out...
[06:08] <crazy4ubuntu> does any1 know what happend to the pfl repositories ?
[06:08] <tom1502> comin from the ancient A language :-)
[06:08] <ardchoille> tom1502: true
[06:08] <crazy4ubuntu> I get an error msg all day trying to conect them, are they off ?
[06:08] <gmoore> what is the command line name of the administration apps like users & groups, etc? im using putty+an xwin server on windows to connect to my ubuntu machine.
[06:08] <AV1611> Yes, i Know that....:((
[06:08] <livingdaylight> i am stumped guys - need help with nvidia installation
[06:08] <sri_> tom1502, i changed the properties..then?
[06:09] <tom1502> ./a.out
[06:09] <crazy4ubuntu> sorry, does any1 know what happend to the plf repositories ?
[06:09] <Rondo> I can't get internet on ubuntu for some reason (but it worked before), when I do 'ifup eth0' it says DHCP DISCOVER and all that but it also says 255.255.255.255, how would I change that to 255.255.0.0?
[06:09] <tom1502> then it should run
[06:09] <tom1502> sri_ ./a.out
[06:09] <sladen> tom1502: /var/log/{syslog,daemon}.log
[06:09] <tom1502> sladen, thx
[06:09] <sri_> tom1502, ok 1m
[06:09] <ardchoille> crazy4ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf  <-- does that help?
[06:09] <tailsfan> Is it possible to get the Nintendo WiFi USB Connector with Ubuntu?\
[06:09] <sladen> wheels3572: BCM43xx cards sometimes work, but only currently at 11M
[06:09] <ubuntu> hola
[06:10] <ubuntu> wenas
[06:10] <crazy4ubuntu> ardchoille, will see
[06:10] <crazy4ubuntu> 10x
[06:10] <bbrazil> gmoore: adduser, groupadd
[06:10] <sladen> Rondo: 255.255.255.255 is the local broadcast address.  (eg.  "Hello all the computers on the local network, do any of you have an IP address for me")
[06:11] <sri_> tom1502, Hi! i got the out put but it is in the shell promt......then i typed cd "Is there any process to print the output ceperately?
[06:11] <cpaek72> anyone here get a 7800gtx go mobile card to work on ubuntu on a laptop? i need help. Ii've installed the nviidia drivers and all i get is a blank screen after enabling the glx-enable command
[06:11] <wheels3572> Sladen:  only at 11mbps well better then nothing for my wireless connection right now lol.  Yes it's a BCM43xx come in my laptop.
[06:11] <gmoore> bbrazil: i'm looking for a non-command line version. ie 'synaptic' launches the graphical interface for synaptic. how can i invoke Users & Groups from command line?
[06:11] <Rondo> sladen: ok, but when I am on windows and I go ipconfig, it shows me 255.255.0.0
[06:11] <bbrazil> gmoore: there's no equivilent interface for that on ubuntu. You just use the 'raw' commands
[06:11] <tom1502> sladen, sri_ u want to have the output in a file?
[06:11] <gmoore> bbrazil: ah ok. thanks.
[06:12] <sladen> Rondo: that is the netmask for the address after you have been given it.  that is not the same as the person you are /asking/ to give you an address
[06:12] <tom1502> sri_ instead of in the shell?
[06:12] <tom1502> sladen, sry
[06:12] <sladen> Rondo: you can see the same information under Ubuntu with  ifconfig
[06:12] <sri_> tom1502, ya
[06:12] <ardchoille> gmoore: gksu users-admin
[06:12] <Rondo> sladen: alright, I don't understand much of it, but what might be the problem that makes me unable to connect with ubuntu?
[06:12] <tom1502> sri_ ./a.out > /path/to/file
[06:12] <crazy4ubuntu> ardchoille, it says in the link the server is back ... But I still can't connect
[06:13] <sladen> gmoore: System->Adminstration->Users and Groups
[06:13] <UltraMagnus> hi, could anyone help me with a problem please, when i suspend my laptop with ubuntu, when i resume and the password box comes up, neither my keyboard or touchpad works (laptop) however my external trackball works fine
[06:13] <sri_> tom1502, ok thank u 1min i will check it
[06:13] <gmoore> sladen: using an xwin server, don't have a desktop, only individual windows
[06:13] <sladen> Rondo: what sort of network are you trying to connect to?
[06:13] <livingdaylight> Hallo!!!
[06:13] <livingdaylight> Help!!!
[06:13] <ZorK-> ...
[06:13] <ardchoille> crazy4ubuntu: I can't seem to establish a link to http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ either :(
[06:14] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: If no one here has an answer to your problem, what do you want them to say?
[06:14] <crazy4ubuntu> let's hope it is temp... I want my w32codecs
[06:14] <Rondo> sladen: home network, for internet, using a DHCP server, with a network card, broadband
[06:14] <ardchoille> crazy4ubuntu: Yes, let's hope.
[06:14] <crazy4ubuntu> ardchoille, do we need to inform some1 ?
[06:14] <sri_> tom1502, ya!thank u it is working
[06:14] <livingdaylight> ardchoille: someone has to have an answer, please, common!
[06:14] <tom1502> sri_ for sure :-) ur welcome
[06:15] <Rondo> I should note that it works half the time, but the other time it doesn't work, and it only works when all the other comps are turned off
[06:15] <crazy4ubuntu> livingdaylight what is the prob ?
[06:15] <ardchoille> crazy4ubuntu: I wouldn't kow whom to inform :(
[06:15] <livingdaylight> crazy4ubuntu: can't isntall nvidia
[06:15] <livingdaylight> crazy4ubuntu: i followed the how to link
[06:15] <crazy4ubuntu> ardchoille, ok, i'll search their wiki.
[06:15] <livingdaylight> crazy4ubuntu: problem is the motherboard had onboard graphics
[06:15] <crazy4ubuntu> livingdaylight, I am sorry, but I never done this before
[06:16] <crazy4ubuntu> what type ?
[06:16] <livingdaylight> crazy4ubuntu: ugh...that is such a shame
[06:16] <crazy4ubuntu> livingdaylight, what is the type ?
[06:16] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, what is your issue specifically?
[06:16] <FunnyLookinHat> Nvidia right?
[06:16] <livingdaylight> crazy4ubuntu: asus v1
[06:16] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: yea
[06:16] <sladen> Rondo: by default there is a dhclient already running in the background on Ubuntu
[06:16] <ardchoille> !nvidia > ardchoille
[06:16] <crazy4ubuntu> livingdaylight, hmm, so why do you insist on installing nvidia drivers ?
[06:17] <Rondo> sladen: yea, but how come I don't get internet?
[06:17] <sri_> tom1502, i have another problem if i tried to exicute the program in gcc compiler by typing "gcc filename.cpp"then it is showing a error that "installation error"
[06:17] <sladen> Rondo: if you are trying to manually start one from the commandline, check that you've killed the first copy first
[06:17] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, how do you know it isn't installing the driver right?
[06:17] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: i got an Nvidia graphics card
[06:17] <sladen> Rondo: just booting with the network cable in should be sufficient
[06:17] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: when i reboot, i get a blank screen
[06:17] <sladen> Rondo: check your DNS servers by looking in   /etc/resolv.conf
[06:17] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, Ahhhh, right.
[06:17] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: i have to take the card out to get a screen again
[06:17] <tom1502> sri_ sry am not fit with c and gcc, just knew how to solve ur former problem...
[06:17] <Rondo> sladen: yea well it doesn't work every time, it only worked the first time and when I rebooted then the internet just didn't work
[06:17] <sladen> Rondo: and you IP address with   /sbin/ifconfig    and default route with   /sbin/route -n
[06:18] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, Here is what you have to do.  When you get that blank screen, do control+alt+F1
[06:18] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: I have installed the nvidia drivers on a number of asus boxes that had inboard graphics and all went fine using that tutorial. Are you sure you aren't missing a step or something?
[06:18] <Spider> i have got a problem installing 6.06 LTs with the CD
[06:18] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, you will be brought to a console
[06:18] <a2xm> hi all,... what happend if I type: sudo mv /var/cache/apt/archives/opera_9.0-20060616.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb /Downloaded
[06:18] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, start writing this down
[06:18] <sri_> tom1502, ok;thank u
[06:18] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, login with your user info
[06:18] <Rondo> sladen: I don't understand that, explain more clearly?
[06:18] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:18] <Spider> it gets to load the hardware devices then takes ages. when x finally starts with the curser nothing more happens, can anyone help plz
[06:18] <ardchoille> a2xm: Is that package installed already?
[06:18] <FaTaL_X> HELLO EVERYBODY
[06:18] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, accept all the default values EXCEPT for the video driver, it will try ot have you use nv, but choose VESA
[06:19] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, then keep accepting default values (hitting enter basically)
[06:19] <sladen> Rondo: please can you reboot to Ubuntu and look what IP address you are getting by running   /sbin/ifconfig
[06:19] <sladen> Rondo: then we will have some solid information, rather than guessing
[06:19] <a2xm> ardchoille: not yet.. and now i couldnt find it
[06:19] <Rondo> I have ubuntu on now (different comp), checking now
[06:19] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, then reboot your computer, you should have a screen.  You can then go through the full driver install process
[06:19] <Spider> it gets to load the hardware devices then takes ages. when x finally starts with the curser nothing more happens, can anyone help plz
[06:19] <section31> anyone know what ports i need to open for me to get samba working with my windows machine
[06:19] <ic56> a2xm: I think apt-get will later be confused because its databases won't match the contents of it's cache.  There's a way to correct that but I don't know it.
[06:20] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, does that make sense?
[06:20] <sladen> Spider: switch to a console (Alt-Ctrl-F1) and then try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:20] <DBO> section31, 137-139 for the connections, netBIOS uses 445 i think
[06:20] <Spider>  problem installing Ubuntu off a cd it goes to load the hardware devices then takes ages. when x finally starts with the curser nothing more happens, can anyone help plz
[06:20] <sladen> Spider: and select the VESA driver
[06:20] <a2xm> ic56: it should be moved the file to /Downloade right?
[06:20] <section31> DBO,tcp?
[06:20] <sladen> Spider: see ^^
[06:20] <DBO> section31, but you only need 137 through 139 if you are planning on using IP's
[06:20] <DBO> section31, TCP yes
[06:20] <section31> DBO,ok i'll try that thanks
[06:20] <Spider> kk
[06:20] <Spider> i will try that
[06:21] <Rondo> sladen: ifconfig doesn't give an ipaddress, I guess it is because I don't have internet working
[06:21] <a2xm> right now i just need the file back
[06:21] <sladen> DBO: Samba uses 137 and 139
[06:21] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: so you sure cntl+alt+F1 will give me screen?
[06:21] <Spider> let me switch a differnt comp on to chat here
[06:21] <sladen> Rondo: use   /sbin/ifconfig -a
[06:21] <ardchoille> a2xm: You tried to install Opera using apt-get or synaptic. Are you sure it isn't installed?
[06:21] <sladen> Rondo: how many network interfaces do you see?
[06:21] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, yes, it will give you a console (text only) screen
[06:21] <FaTaL_X> how  install gnoppix-ubuntu
[06:21] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: maybe i should reconfigure xserver-xorg before installing card?
[06:21] <ic56> a2xm: huh?!  You appear to not have read a word I read.  What are you trying to do?  and why?
[06:21] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, you have to do it after you install the card
[06:21] <DBO> sladen, yes I know there is a spare port in there, but I figured the range would be one entry instead of two seperate ones
[06:21] <ic56> a2xm "I read" -> "I wrote"
[06:22] <seamus_ie> hey does anyone know of a good linux app for task managment like a todo list
[06:22] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: ok, so switch off, put card in then reboot, then when the screen blank press controlalt f1
[06:22] <Rondo> sladen: no ip address, and I have 3 interfaces pop up
[06:22] <sladen> livingdaylight: you can get back to the graphical display with  alt-F7
[06:22] <FunnyLookinHat> seamus_ie, Evolution is a lot like MS Outlook, if you are looking for an interface like that including calendar and whatnot
[06:22] <tom1502> seamus_ie, calendar app with task planner?
[06:22] <ardchoille> seamus_ie: I use gjots for that.. nice app :)
[06:22] <sladen> Rondo: sudo killall -9 dhclient<tab>
[06:23] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: is there something i need to do in BIOs
[06:23] <tom1502> seamus_ie, Evolution
[06:23] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, right, and do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set driver to VESA
[06:23] <sladen> Rondo: sudo dhclient eth0     and what does that give you?
[06:23] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, make sure the primary display adapter is your AGP slot or whatever in bios
[06:23] <dek_aik> a2xm: if you have the file in /var/cache/apt/archieves then problly you have use apt-get or aptitude..but looking at it as opera (it is not yet in ubuntu repo)..well...
[06:23] <Rondo> sladen: same problem as ifup eth0
[06:23] <seamus_ie> i'm looking for something a little more lightweight than evolution and gjots interface is way too confusing and cluttered for me
[06:24] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: ok, so where is that? where is primary display adapter? couldn't find anything relvant in BIOS
[06:24] <sladen> Rondo: what error message does it give?
[06:24] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, then you don't have to worry about it because your bios probably auto-detects it
[06:24] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: if i haven't don't that even if i recongifure xserver-xorg file it s not going to work
[06:24] <gmoore> i just snagged a TVTuner card. what are some good options for turning my ubuntu system into a PVR?
[06:24] <amar-ze> anyone familiar with firestarter?
[06:24] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: ok
[06:24] <Rondo> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port67 interval<random nubmer>
[06:24] <a2xm> ic56: yeah.. so it should be /filename.deb /Downloaded ... in the /Downloaded directory right?
[06:24] <DBO> gmoore, MythTV is the best
[06:25] <dek_aik> a2xm: no you dont have to
[06:25] <livingdaylight> crazy4ubuntu: i am so happy for you
[06:25] <Rondo> no DHCP offers recieved, No working leases in 10 persistent databases - sleeping
[06:25] <FunnyLookinHat> gmoore, If you want to install the LATEST myth TV it isn't currently in the repositories...  check out http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ
[06:25] <a2xm> dek_aik: actualy it was my mistake.. just now i forgot the command sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[06:25] <crazy4ubuntu> livingdaylight, hmm, 10x, but why ?
[06:25] <dek_aik> a2xm: you can just cd to /var/cache/apt/archieve then dpkg -i opera.xxxxx.deb
[06:25] <sladen> gmoore: mythtv
[06:25] <FunnyLookinHat> gmoore, and I do suggest using the latest version, .19 has a lot of improvments over .18
[06:26] <nvez> im the 800th user in this channel
[06:26] <a2xm> dek_aik: so i moved the file to the archives manualy :-(
[06:26] <ic56> a2xm: My 5.10 doesn't have a /Downloaded directory.  You're making it sound as if it's a standard place used by installers.  Is it?!
[06:26] <nvez> I WIN THE MILLION DOLLARS
[06:26] <nvez> :P
[06:26] <FunnyLookinHat> nvez, : )
[06:26] <sladen> dek_aik: you don't even need to copy it.  just double-click the .deb on your desktop
[06:26] <gmoore> for MythTV, do i need a mouse/keyboard? or is the remote control for my tvtuner enough? i have a wireless mouse/kb in storage i'd use if you need m/kb for mythtv
[06:26] <nvez> doodle
[06:26] <sladen> ic56: Desktop  is the standard place
[06:26] <nvez> im not it anymore =P
[06:26] <DBO> gmoore, what FunnyLookinHat said is especially true with Xgl, MythTV doesnt play nice unless you have .19
[06:26] <crazy4ubuntu> livingdaylight, still need help ?
[06:26] <livingdaylight> crazy4ubuntu: i'm telling you i ca't install nvidia graphics card on asus integrated graphics motherboard, and you tell me that you had no problems; how does that help me?
[06:26] <DBO> gmoore, you can use a remote control in combination with LIRC
[06:26] <dek_aik> a2xm: you can do dpkg from there..
[06:26] <gmoore> LIRC?
[06:27] <FunnyLookinHat> DBO, I'm currently porting / compiling the new mythTV code into packages for the repos  : )
[06:27] <DBO> FunnyLookinHat, my hero
[06:27] <sladen> gmoore: that will depend on actually what remote you have.  Alot of people find a remote good enough
[06:27] <Rondo> sladen: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port67 interval<random nubmer> <next line>>	no DHCP offers recieved<nextline> No working leases in 10 persistent databases - sleeping
[06:27] <a2xm> ic56: /Downloaded is just my directory for downloded files
[06:27] <dek_aik> sladen: i rarely use gui to install .deb...
[06:27] <ic56> sladen: which installer depends on teh existence of ~/Desktop ?
[06:27] <DBO> FunnyLookinHat, EE I assume, or you gonna give me backport lovin?
[06:27] <a2xm> dek_aik: the file gone now
[06:27] <sladen> Rondo: sudo mii-tool eth0
[06:27] <crazy4ubuntu> livingdaylight, I said I never done this b4 ! what are you trying to do ? to install the card or it's driver ?
[06:27] <ardchoille> dek_aik: I rarely use gui for much of anything anymore :)
[06:27] <kazukisan> Okay my amarok wont play .mp3 files nor will it play .asx radio stations ??? it plays ogg good tho lol
[06:28] <unmoldable> anyone know why mplayer is not showing up in any apt-cache search?  I have multiverse and universe enabled
[06:28] <crazy4ubuntu> livingdaylight, I mean the hardware or it's software ?
[06:28] <gmoore> ok also, for Mythtv, how big are the files if you record shows? will it compress on the fly? i have a 2800+ barton with 512mb of ram.
[06:28] <sladen> kazukisan: you need the dodgey stuff from multiverse
[06:28] <kazukisan> sladen is that a package ?
[06:28] <ic56> a2xm: so why do you want to move a file from /var/cache/apt to /Downloaded?  The file belongs in /var/cache/apt !
[06:28] <ardchoille> unmoldable: did you just recently enable universe and multiverse?
[06:28] <gmoore> last thing: what does MythTV need that Ubuntu dapper Server install won't have? will I need to install X, Xgl, etc? i assume the server install doesnt have any of those
[06:28] <Rondo> sladen:eth0: nefotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[06:28] <dek_aik> ardchoille: not me..still need some times..:)
[06:28] <unmoldable> ardchoille: yes
[06:29] <sladen> kazukisan: multiverse is a repositary containing 'interesting' software.  You can enable the archive via Synaptic
[06:29] <DBO> gmoore, you will need an X server
[06:29] <sladen> !restrictedformats
[06:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:29] <unmoldable> ardchoille: (new install)
[06:29] <ardchoille> unmoldable: do:  sudo apt-get update  .. then do your apt-cache search
[06:29] <crazy4ubuntu> livingdaylight, are you still there ? I am trying to help. provide more info pls
[06:29] <bdoin> what is the package to get sndconfig utility for old soundcards on dapper ?
[06:29] <unmoldable> ardchoille: did that, but I'll try again
[06:29] <dek_aik> a2xm: try sudo updatedb then "locate opera"
[06:29] <gmoore> DBO: hmm. could i have ANY system run an X server (Even a windows system) and have it connect to the ubuntu system and run mythtv?
[06:30] <sladen> gmoore: yes.
[06:30] <gmoore> ahhh awesome
[06:30] <ardchoille> dek_aik: It might be "locate Opera" instead of "locate opera"
[06:30] <sladen> gmoore: but you'll need a fast, fast network;  a more efficient way is to use a Windows-based frontend to Mythtv, or the web-interface
[06:31] <sladen> gmoore: which means the decoding would be done on your MS Windows machine
[06:31] <gmoore> 100mbit ethernet fast enough? or too slow?
[06:31] <syndicate47> does anyone know how to increase the number of lines that the mousewheel scrolls?
[06:31] <dek_aik> ardchoille: the file was opera.xxx
[06:31] <a2xm> ic56: first, i moved it from /downloaded to /var/.../archives and then I moved it back to /downloaded --> sure you'll confuse
[06:32] <a2xm> dek_aik: nothing
[06:32] <ic56> a2xm: ah, ok.
[06:32] <gmoore> sladen: basically, if i want to watch mythtv on my TV, do i need to have the system which is running mythtv to be outputting the video to the tv directly, or can i have (ubuntu system with mythtv) -> (any system with a tv-out card on a LAN) -> TV ?
[06:33] <Livemode> i have a 6.06+ live cd and i want to install ubuntu with out haveing to boot up through the live cd. is there a way please
[06:33] <Rondo> sladen: what do I do after the 'sudo mii-tool eth0'? What does it do?
[06:33] <Livemode> i have a 6.06+ live cd and i want to install ubuntu with out haveing to boot up through the live cd. is there a way please
[06:33] <ic56> a2xm: presumably you downloaded this file directly rather than obtaining it through apt-get.  To install it, use dpkg -i /downloaded/<package filename>  Like the other guys already said
[06:33] <a2xm> ic56: actually, what happen when: "mv /filename /filename" ?
[06:33] <sladen> gmoore: you need a TV connection -> mythtv.  And somewhere else you need   a TV/VGA/S-video output-> your TV set.   Frequently they are the same machine, but they wouldn't have to be
[06:33] <Consty> Oh wow.. finally reliable NTFS write support.. o.O http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[06:34] <a2xm> ic56: that what i'm gonna do before i remember it
[06:34] <gmoore> sladen: and since you seem to know a lot :)  how big are shows in general if you record them? say, 30 minutes of family guy. a cartoon, so only 'low-medium' quality would be needed.
[06:34] <ardchoille> dek_aik: I have seen some packages begin with a lower-case letter, but once installed, the binary begins with an upper-case letter ;)
[06:34] <snoops> gmoore mythtv uses a client/server architecture.. so you can run the server on one machine with the tv card.. then have another pc which runs the client and connects to the server one.. pretty nifty
[06:34] <ic56> a2xm: mv /filename /filename will give an error ("x and x are teh same filename") and refuse to execute
[06:34] <gmoore> snoops: very nifty
[06:34] <unmoldable> ardchoille: still nothing, onlything close is kmplayer
[06:34] <gmoore> sladen: i see
[06:35] <sladen> gmoore: I don't have a clue.  I know of people who just shove 400GB of disk in and stream the DVB muxes straight to disk.  The mythtv site will likely give you a guide to diskspace
[06:35] <cpaek72> anyway to disable x and boot into the command line?
[06:35] <a2xm> ic56: sorry, "mv /directory/filename /filename2" ?
[06:35] <Livemode> i have a 6.06+ live cd and i want to install ubuntu with out haveing to boot up through the live cd. is there a way please
[06:35] <snoops> gmoore so I guess you can use tv out on the client machine show up on tv
[06:35] <gmoore> sladen: alright, i'll take my questions there ;)   thanks a lot for the information
[06:35] <dek_aik> a2xm: guess you have to download again then..:(
[06:35] <snoops> and have the server tucked away somewhere
[06:35] <gmoore> snoops: yeah i think i might see if i can find a really cheap mini-atx POS with tv-out
[06:36] <a2xm> dek_aik: that's the only thing i dont want.. hix hix... ;-(
[06:36] <ic56> a2xm: it moves filename from /directory to / and renames it into filename2.  Does that answer your question?
[06:36] <Livemode> i have a 6.06+ live cd and i want to install ubuntu with out haveing to boot up through the live cd. is there a way please
[06:36] <dek_aik> a2xm: filename are moved to / (root) as filename2
[06:36] <a2xm> ic56: i'm trying to find that file here.. and rename it again
[06:36] <Centaur5> Is there a way to make it so you're never offered a certain update?
[06:36] <sladen> Livemode: you need the Alternate CD for a text-mode install
[06:37] <Livemode> ok
[06:37] <dek_aik> a2xm: try "sudo locate opera"
[06:37] <sladen> Livemode: the Desktop CD only does graphical install
[06:37] <ic56> a2xm: so, you've lost a file somewhere in your filesystem.  You're not sure where it is or what name it now has but you're hoping it wasn't accidentally deleted.  Is this a correct description of your situation?
[06:37] <Livemode> sladen, i tryed what u said earlier sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:38] <sladen> Livemode: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:38] <Livemode> it gave a responce with actions
[06:38] <a2xm> ic56: you are absolutly right my friend ;-(
[06:38] <Livemode> saying do --help
[06:38] <Livemode> dpkg.beb
[06:38] <Livemode> deb sorry
[06:38] <sladen> Livemode: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:38] <ardchoille> Livemode: It's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  (no space between dpkg and -reconfigure)
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> DBO, Actually multiverse I think... I have to talk with the MOTUmedia team (sorry, was afk)
[06:38] <Livemode> kk
[06:39] <Livemode> i will try in 2min as it attempts to boot] 
[06:39] <ic56> dek_aik: locate only looks in specific places where things are supposed to be.  a2xm move his file to a place of his own devising.  Thus, locate is not the right tool to find the file.  The right tool is "find".  You can learn about about find by reading its manpage.
[06:39] <syndicate47> does anyone know how to increase the number of lines that the mousewheel scrolls?
[06:39] <Rondo> uhh does anyone know why I can't have internet in ubuntu? When I first installed it worked for some reason but when I rebooted it didn't. What could be causing this?
[06:39] <FunnyLookinHat> and I'm gone agian..   : )
[06:39] <wels> hi i need help installing ubuntu... i want to make a software raid installation, so i downloaded the alternate install cd. i then configured an md-device over the two harddisks, and now i got an RAID0 device with the full size... but when i now want to create partitions on it, he tells me that the file systems could not be created on it... :(
[06:39] <sladen> ic56: locate works from a database that is recreated each day.  If you've only just downloaded something, it will not appear
[06:39] <ubuntu> server irc.cl
[06:39] <ubuntu> sorri
[06:40] <ic56> a2xm: our first bet is search your command history.  What was the original filename?  Did it contain "opera" in it, like people are saying?
[06:40] <sladen> ic56: use   find /tmp ~/ -iname \*opera\*   or something
[06:40] <dek_aik> ic56: i though if you updatedb then its there in the database so you can do locate...well i was wrong then
[06:40] <ic56> sladen: thanks, I wasn't asking
[06:40] <ic56> -)
[06:40] <StriderZ> The ubuntu rox-filer package does not include /etc/menu-methods/rox. Anyone know where I can get this script?
[06:40] <a2xm> ic56: yeah but it was mv to downloaded right.. wait, seems i've found the file
[06:41] <ardchoille> dek_aik: No, you were right. updatedb updates the db and you should be able to use locate to locate it
[06:41] <a2xm> ic56: try to rename it back to opera-bal-bal.deb
[06:41] <Livemode> loading manual drivers       mount : function not implemented
[06:41] <sladen> ic56: perhaps you can pass it onto the person that you were telling =-)
[06:41] <ic56> dek_aik: you were correct about things like binaries and manpages.  Not about random files strewn around by a user.  Also take note of sladen's comments
[06:42] <chrisbudden14> is anyone having a problem with weather desklets updating?
[06:42] <dek_aik> ic56: yes boss
[06:42] <sladen> chrisbudden14: do you have a network connection?
[06:42] <chrisbudden14> yea
[06:42] <chrisbudden14> my gdesklets sidecandy weather has decided to stop updating sladen
[06:42] <ic56> dek_aik: apologies, didn't mean to patronize.
[06:43] <dek_aik> ic56: accepted,,just want to be a good samaritan
[06:43] <ic56> a2xm: if you have yet to find teh file, you need to *stop*.  Every command you issue is shifting older commands out of your cache and decreasing your chances of success.
[06:44] <Rondo> sladen: what do I do after the 'sudo mii-tool eth0'? What does it do? Do you know?
[06:44] <ic56> a2xm: do this: history |grep -i opera
[06:44] <XGas> rofl
[06:44] <sladen> chrisbudden14: try another airport location.  If a particularl airport is not updating
[06:44] <sladen> Rondo: it will tell if you have 'link' on that internface
[06:44] <sladen> Rondo: what output does it give you?
[06:45] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: no joy
[06:45] <chrisbudden14> airport? its not airports.  I use London United Kingdom, and have tried changing it
[06:45] <Rondo> sladen:eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[06:45] <ic56> a2xm: does it output the original mv command you used?  If so, then that should tell you where you put the file.  If the command isn't output, we can consider other options
[06:45] <sladen> chrisbudden14: yes, which is Heathrow (LHR/EGLL)
[06:45] <chrisbudden14> LHR
[06:45] <kazukisan> What gstreamer PAckage do i need so that amaroK Will use that one instaid of xine cause its not showing up in the egine list ???
[06:45] <chrisbudden14> really? i didnt know
[06:45] <a2xm> ic56: done.. found the file, rename it back to the original name, and installing now... :-D
[06:46] <dadgumit> hi all, SMP not working, installed linux-686-smp but still no dice, ideas?
[06:46] <Xordan> Hi. I've installed realplayer on amd64 dapper and there seems to be no sound... I just ran the realplayer installer, is there something else I need to do?
[06:46] <ic56> a2xm: good.  Did you learn anything at least?
[06:46] <sladen> chrisbudden14: OTOH, that one is working for me  (all four of my weather applets are updating fine and show sunshine)
[06:46] <chrisbudden14> for London ?
[06:46] <sladen> chrisbudden14: ...even Helsinki   (Vantaa, HEL/EFHK)
[06:47] <chrisbudden14> lol sladen
[06:47] <dadgumit> looking for ideas on getting SMP working
[06:47] <birdmun> when i du -s * /home/ it reports that /birdmun is using 84gig when i enter /birdmun and du -s * it reports maybe 8gig and prolly less
[06:47] <a2xm> ic56:  and my opera is running now.. *phuif* ... i was in a hurry before the horrible mistake ;-)
[06:47] <chrisbudden14> ill mess about with them and see what happens
[06:47] <Rondo> sladen: so I guess that means it has a link, what would I do now? How come I can't get an ip address?
[06:47] <chrisbudden14> thanks sladen
[06:47] <birdmun> is there something i can do to repair the misrepresentation?
[06:47] <XGas> Realplayer sucks, there are other altenative that I can't name.
[06:47] <dadgumit> FunnyLookinHat: you here?
[06:47] <Xordan> I know it sucks :P
[06:48] <a2xm> ic56: plus forgot the command dpkg
[06:48] <Xordan> I can't find anything else which will run the rm files though.
[06:48] <dadgumit> XGas: in windows it is real alternative, same in linux?
[06:48] <livingdaylight> crazy4ubuntu: damn, cant get it to work
[06:48] <dadgumit> Looking for some help on SMP please
[06:48] <a2xm> ic56: thanks man... ;-)
[06:48] <ic56> a2xm: did you learn how to search your history to review what went wrong?
[06:49] <fraggsta> I know this is not a directly Ubuntu-related question, but..Should I be overly concerned about power consumption if my 2 PCs and a monitor are consuming somewhere around 130 - 140 Watts (looks like the firewall PC is about 50 Watts, dropping to 45 or so when it's HDD powers down).  I mean, does anyone have any idea what's normal?
[06:49] <Merras> hi
[06:49] <dadgumit> howdy Merras
[06:50] <syndicate47> does anyone know how to increase the number of lines that the mousewheel scrolls?
[06:50] <a2xm> ic56: i didnt search.. i just need to figure it out what the result of my mistake (the mv-ing)... and i can solve it from there.
[06:50] <livingdaylight> ok, i can't get nvidia card to run
[06:50] <dadgumit> Looking for some help on getting SMP running, I have tried installing linux-686-SMP but that doesnt' do teh trick
[06:50] <birdmun> what nvidia card?
[06:50] <a2xm> ic56:  'coz i believe the file is still here
[06:50] <livingdaylight> birdmun: 6600gt agp card
[06:50] <kdean06> Does anyone here have a working webcam setup?
[06:50] <Livemode> sladen, i tryed dpkg and went through the process and got this message xserver-xorg postinst warning :overwriting possible customised configuration file ; backup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.20060715174855
[06:50] <Merras> hey, guys, I have a problem with ubuntu install... my notebook is very slow, and from the graphic interface, i can't start the install program. how can i start the installing from the command line?
[06:50] <livingdaylight> birdmun: GeForce
[06:51] <speel> kdean06, yea i do
[06:51] <ic56> a2xm: do your self a favour and try this command: "history".  It's useful.
[06:51] <birdmun> and d/ling the drivers from nvidia and following the install didnt work for you?
[06:51] <kdean06> speel, Do you use it to chat with Windows users?
[06:51] <speel> kdean06, nah
[06:51] <dadgumit> Merras: hit escape at the installer prompt, it iwll bring you into a command line
[06:51] <kdean06> speel, Okay, thanks.
[06:51] <Livemode> start x
[06:51] <livingdaylight> birdmun: folloed this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:52] <Xordan> so... nobody knows how to run rm files on amd64 dapper without using a chroot?
[06:52] <birdmun> no space in startx Livemode
[06:52] <speel> kdean06, if your looking for a program to webchat with windows users check out gnome meeting
[06:52] <Rondo> sladen: so I guess that means it has a link, what would I do now? How come I can't get an ip address?
[06:52] <a2xm> ic56:  wow... that really good
[06:52] <dadgumit> Looking for help on SMP, namely getting it running, have installed the linux-686-SMP but no workey yet, anything else I need to do?
[06:52] <Merras> dadgumit: done
[06:52] <a2xm> ic56: yeah
[06:52] <Merras> so, what should i type to the command line?
[06:52] <ic56> a2xm: do you know the "grep" command?
[06:53] <Livemode> FFS
[06:53] <livingdaylight> birdmun: went into synaptic, installed nvidia glx, next i searched for; linux-restricted-modules. Then i opened terminal and did: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:53] <Livemode> the live CD logs in but then does nothing
[06:53] <ardchoille> ic56: grep is my favourite
[06:53] <a2xm> ic56: yes
[06:53] <dadgumit> Merras: I think just type install, hit enter, and you are off
[06:53] <kdean06> speel, I've used GnomeMeeting and Ekiga. Perhaps I'm retarded, but I can't figure out how to do it. What Windows programs can it work with?
[06:53] <thompa> my dvd plays fine for maybe 15 minutes then it slows to crawl?
[06:53] <sri_> Hi! i am new to linux i am downloading a movie in .rar format it is open with archive manager?
[06:53] <drbreen> !ekiga
[06:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about ekiga - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:53] <speel> kdean06, for a fact i know gnome meeting works with windows netmeeting
[06:53] <birdmun> livingdaylight, i just got the drivers from nvidia and followed the install that they post ... its really not complicated at all
[06:53] <ic56> a2xm: so you see how you can use "history |grep <some text>" to look for things you did in the past?
[06:54] <drbreen> !gnomemeeting
[06:54] <ardchoille> !rar > sri_
[06:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnomemeeting - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:54] <Livemode> the live CD logs in but then does nothing
[06:54] <Merras> dadgumit: "could not find kernel image: install"
[06:54] <dadgumit> Looking for help on getting SMP up and running
[06:54] <sri_> ardchoille, i did n't get u
[06:54] <kdean06> speel, And NetMeeting is free for Doze users?
[06:54] <birdmun> Livemode, is this a Mac per chance?
[06:54] <livingdaylight> birdmun: i folled the link which isn't complicated either. But it still isn't working
[06:54] <livingdaylight> birdmun: but i'm very happy for you
[06:54] <Livemode> nope birdmun
[06:54] <sri_> ardchoille, not exicutable??
[06:54] <dadgumit> Merras: which CD are you on? the live Dapper?
[06:54] <speel> kdean06, netmeeting comes with every windows version
[06:54] <ardchoille> ubotu: tell sri_ about !rar
[06:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about !rar - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:54] <Livemode> its an AMD
[06:54] <kdean06> speel, Cool.
[06:55] <speel> :-)
[06:55] <ardchoille> !rar
[06:55] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:55] <wels> do i have to reboot when i create software raid devices in alternate installation?
[06:55] <unity> any rtorrent users noticing that filenames with non-english characters are being created with incorrect names?
[06:55] <sri_> ubotu, ok 1m thank u
[06:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about ok 1m thank u - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:55] <ardchoille> sri_: Did you see the output by ubotu ?
[06:55] <SonicChao> !anyone > unity
[06:55] <dadgumit> Help with SMP, installed the linux-686-smp package in the package manager, anything else should do
[06:55] <dadgumit> Help with SMP, installed the linux-686-smp package in the package manager, anything else should do
[06:55] <sri_> ardchoille, ya
[06:56] <birdmun> only reason i asked is i installed ubuntu on my gf's son's imac and there was the possiblity for issues installing from a gui livecd because of monitor settings not being correct in xorg.conf
[06:56] <livingdaylight> birdmun: in Synaptic i ticked nvidia-kernel-source
[06:56] <fraggsta> !synaptic porn-get
[06:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about synaptic porn-get - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:56] <Merras> dadgumit: ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso what i have
[06:56] <fraggsta> :/
[06:56] <unity> SonicChao: ok then are you noticng that rtorrent creates filenames with non-english characters incorrectly?
[06:56] <Livemode> well i got the login screen birdmun  and it auto logged in then does nothing
[06:56] <sri_> ardchoille, what this site aout?
[06:57] <ardchoille> sri_: Which site?
[06:57] <birdmun> Livemode, i suppose you could try d/ling the alternate dapper cd it will allow you to do a text install
[06:57] <SonicChao> unity: No...I dont use RTorrent, I was just making u aware of the rules
[06:57] <livingdaylight> birdmun: so you can't help either?
[06:57] <livingdaylight> darn
[06:57] <dadgumit> Merras: try rebooting from CD and hit F3 at the prompt, it will give you some information concerning how to boot, I maybe telling you the wrong command (it might be linux instead of install)
[06:57] <sri_> ardchoille, sorry ubotu  give it
[06:57] <dadgumit> Help with SMP, installed the linux-686-smp package in the package manager, anything else should do?
[06:57] <birdmun> im sorry livingdaylight i can not
[06:57] <ardchoille> sri_: Do you mean http://wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[06:57] <Livemode> birdmun,  i try installing the breezy and it freezes on the partitioner
[06:58] <Livemode> i had breezy and dapper running on this box b4
[06:58] <birdmun> i can only suggest trying to do it from nvidia
[06:58] <sri_> ardchoille, http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:58] <unity> does anyone know a trivial workaround to make rtorrent correctly create files with wide chars in their filename? currently, i get filenames that are composed of a bunch of squares (and yes i have nls support built into my kernel)
[06:58] <ardchoille> sri_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com is the Ubuntu wiki. It's a very good site for information about the Ubuntu distro. I recommend you bookmark it.. it'll come in handy :)
[06:59] <navyn> hey guys i've got a dumb question, but its real annoying.  i'm running XGL, and all of my windows whenever i open them open up about a half inch from the bottom, and i have to hit maximize every time to get them to full screen
[06:59] <ardchoille> sri_: That is the bot info site, that will be handy also
[06:59] <sri_> ardchoille, thank u
[06:59] <chaitu> join #ubuntu
[06:59] <morrolan> Can someone please tell me how to get colour in gnome terminal when browsing files (coloured directories etc) - irc (irssi) is working fine in gnome terminal WITH colour, so colour IS working
[06:59] <dfgas> ok i have ubuntu installed on my mac, how do i move the screen. it doesn't have controls. its and aio computer and i know there is a way to do it software wise
[07:00] <ardchoille> chaitu: Wow
[07:00] <ardchoille> chaitu: That was cool, your client joined it before you told it to, lol
[07:00] <dadgumit> actually, should I even be using the 686 kernel with an AMD64? I mean if I want to use it as a 32 bit proc
[07:00] <dadgumit> anyone know?
[07:00] <kdean06> morrolan, That setting is in .bashrc in your home folder, I believe. There is a commented line that says something like "Use colors". Just remove the # in front of it and it should work fine.
[07:01] <morrolan> kdean06: thanks, I'll take a look
[07:01] <Merras> dadgumit: the help says only 2 options: live - start the live system, memtest - perform a memory test
[07:01] <kdean06> morrolan, Maybe not, hang on... I'll find it for you. :-)
[07:02] <domma> Hi, I have installed the ati drivers for my radeon 9700 like this: http://wiki.unixboard.de/index.php/ATI_Radeon_Karten_unter_Ubuntu-Linux_installieren
[07:02] <morrolan> hmmm, I don't have .bashrc
[07:02] <dadgumit> Merras: you probably need to download and burn the alternative CD I haven't much experience with the Live CD. I don't believe there is a there is teh capability to do a non graphical install on it.
[07:02] <ardchoille> morrolan: There's your problem
[07:02] <nepali> many ubuntu users know a lot on hacking
[07:02] <Merras> dadgumit: ok, thanks, I'll try
[07:02] <morrolan> ardchoille: I kinda guessed!  :op
[07:02] <nepali> can u here anyone make me clear about that
[07:02] <domma> fglrxinfo shows teh correct gfx card and fgl_glxgears works fine ... but if I logout, the computer freezes and I have to shut it down manualy
[07:02] <ardchoille> morrolan: Do you have a .bashrc.bak?
[07:02] <domma> any hint how to debug this?
[07:03] <morrolan> ardchoille: no
[07:03] <domma> it works fine if I dont' load "dri"
[07:03] <morrolan> .bash_history and .bash_logout is all I have
[07:03] <ardchoille> morrolan: Didn't you use the bashrc I pastebin'd for you?
[07:03] <morrolan> I appeared blank for some reason
[07:04] <ardchoille> morrolan: I'll pastebin it again, hold on
[07:04] <morrolan> ardchoille: thanks.  btw, is there an easy way to choose someones name when replying without typing it each time?
[07:05] <dadgumit> Little help with SMP please?
[07:05] <ardchoille> morrolan: type ard and then press the tab key
[07:05] <kdean06> morrolan, Add this to .bashrc and your stuff will be colorized. http://www.pastebin.us/1499
[07:05] <jeff_> Does anyone know if there's a way to broadcast my music using RSS similar to a podcast for reading on my psp? (In Linux)
[07:05] <kdean06> morrolan, If you haven't gotten it yet. :)
[07:05] <Merras> thanks the help, bye all
[07:05] <morrolan> kdean06: my problem is: I don't have a .bashrc!
[07:06] <ardchoille> morrolan: This is the .bashrc that was shipped with my Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18095
[07:06] <ardchoille> morrolan: That was for Ubuntu Dapper Drake
[07:06] <kdean06> morrolan, That's cool, just create it.
[07:06] <ardchoille> morrolan: Paste that into .bashrc, then save, then re-open a term and it should be fixed.
[07:07] <morrolan> ardchoille:  thanks, i'll try that now
[07:07] <dek_aik> anyone has the fix for xine-ui menu fonts being too big (latest dapper)?
[07:07] <kdean06> ardchoille, LOL The Ubuntu .bashrc has a hell of a lot more than hte Mepis. :-)
[07:07] <ardchoille> kdean06: :)
[07:08] <kdean06> Mines all of 6 lines now, with color enabled.
[07:08] <ardchoille> kdean06: And my current .bashrc has 14 aliases too, thanks to gnomefreak for teaching me how to do that
[07:08] <morrolan> brb, i'll have to close my irc term to test it
[07:08] <ardchoille> morrolan: wait
[07:08] <morrolan> I use aliases a lot, but I lose track of some of them
[07:08] <morrolan> ok
[07:09] <morrolan> still here
[07:09] <ardchoille> morrolan: Are you using screen?
[07:09] <morrolan> ardchoille: screen?
[07:09] <kdean06> ardchoille, Ha ha. It's possible to set that as a global feature, as opposed to having to do it for each user, but user configs are quite handy.
[07:09] <morrolan> ardchoille: I'm using Gnome Terminal
[07:09] <ardchoille> morrolan: Learn about screen.. you can use irssi, elinks, most cli apps in a screen session and you don't have to close those apps to log out/in
[07:10] <ardchoille> morrolan: You can use screen in any term
[07:10] <morrolan> ardchoille:  I have heard of that, but never used it
[07:10] <morrolan> I'll be back soon
[07:10] <ardchoille> morrolan: Feel free to pm my and I can teach you about it
[07:11] <ardchoille> screen + irssi + elinks + mutt ROCKS!
[07:14] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[07:14] <rysiek|pl> sladen: got usplash to work (a symlink was missing, re-created by hand) and in fact, it really is 640x480 (no typo here).
[07:14] <morrolan> ardchoille:  Still no luck, but I'm using X-Chat now
[07:15] <PacketScan> i love screen could work with out it now.
[07:15] <morrolan> it's horrible :(
[07:15] <PacketScan> xchat isn't so back..  well unless your in love with irssi . :d
[07:15] <PacketScan> couldn't even.
[07:15] <ardchoille> PacketScan: same here
[07:15] <morrolan> yes I do love irssi, I just don't know how to use it besides joining, quitting, and leaving parting messages
[07:15] <PacketScan> anyone got a spare brain? the spelling logic in this one is all messed up.
[07:16] <[DiffZ] > hi people :)
[07:16] <jeff_> Does anyone know if there's a way to broadcast my music using RSS similar to a podcast for reading on my psp? (In Linux)
[07:16] <ardchoille> morrolan: There are some good folks that can answer questions in #irssi :)
[07:16] <morrolan> ardchoille:  thanks for that
[07:16] <ardchoille> PacketScan: HAHAHAHAHA
[07:16] <dek_aik> anyone has try xine-ui? why the menu fonts too big?
[07:16] <morrolan> ardchoille:  I still have no colour in Gnome Terminal though
[07:16] <Subhuman> dek_aik, fine for me
[07:17] <ardchoille> morrolan: hmm.. my gnome-terminal has colour, but I don't often use gnome-terminal
[07:17] <morrolan> ardchoille:  Do you have it set as a login shell?
[07:17] <fernando> alguem pode me ajuda a configurar
[07:18] <Subhuman> morrolan, irssi you have to enable colour in the config.
[07:18] <squidgy> hi.  I have a 5-button MS Intellimouse 2.0 (USB), and while ubuntu does allow me to point and to use the scroll wheel, it doesn't seem to know that I have more than 2 buttons.  Does anyone know how to configure this?
[07:18] <dek_aik> Subhuman: my case, you right click on the screen, settings--menu then u see the fonts are taking too much space
[07:18] <ardchoille> morrolan: No idea, I use tty1 for internet stuff
[07:18] <Subhuman> dek_aik, must be you have a custom dpi setting, its just poor programming on the xine end.
[07:18] <UltraMagnus> what is a good PCB editor for linux?
[07:18] <morrolan> Subhuman: I have colour in irssi, just not in normal file browsing in gnome-terminal
[07:18] <sladen> rysiek|pl|brb: no, really.  it is 640x400
[07:18] <Subhuman> morrolan, and what does "ls --color" produce?
[07:18] <sladen> rysiek|pl|brb: please, read the source-code if you're in doubt
[07:18] <[DiffZ] > is there a bootdisk with usb-cdrom device for ubuntu? I've got a laptop with usb cdrom drive and the bios with no usb boot support :|
[07:19] <morrolan> Subhuman - dude, it produces colour
[07:19] <dek_aik> Subhuman: sorry right click on the screen, settings--setup
[07:19] <ardchoille> morrolan: good, you can add an alias for that
[07:19] <morrolan> shall I just alias "ls"
[07:19] <Subhuman> dek_aik, i know the screen
[07:19] <Subhuman> morrolan, open ~/.bash_profile
[07:19] <dfgas> found my answer
[07:19] <dfgas> xvidtune
[07:19] <FunnyLookinHat> dadgumit, I'm here now
[07:20] <Subhuman> morrolan, then type " alias ls=ls --color"
[07:20] <roostishaw> are there any free games like 'rise of nations' for linux?
[07:20] <fernando> alguem do brasil
[07:20] <Subhuman> morrolan, " alias ls="ls --color" " sorry.
[07:20] <phunkalicious> does anyone know how i can raise the sound in my xvids?
[07:20] <dek_aik> Subhuman: i didnt change the dpi, its default install...you know where the config/fix to the xine poor programming?
[07:20] <phunkalicious> its really really quiet
[07:20] <Subhuman> dek_aik, no idea sorry.
[07:21] <squidgy> phunkalicious: I have the same problem.  I gave up after several days of asking/searching.
[07:21] <roostishaw> are there any free games like 'rise of nations' for linux?
[07:21] <phunkalicious> doh
[07:21] <dek_aik> Subhuman: ok, no problem..but are your xine-ui fonts ok?
[07:21] <FunnyLookinHat> roostishaw, not really...  I mean there are some decent free games, but not of the same quality
[07:21] <IseeIsee> I did an expert installation of ubuntu
[07:21] <phunkalicious> yeah everything else is fine for me except the xvids
[07:22] <FunnyLookinHat> roostishaw, You could try asking in #cedega, a lot of linux gamers hang out in there
[07:22] <IseeIsee> how can I install packages ?
[07:22] <morrolan> IseeIsee:  What are you trying to install?
[07:22] <Subhuman> dek_aik, fine here, try using "gxine" - its just a gnome'd version of xine, it may work better for you. ( i prefer gxine to xine tbh)
[07:22] <squidgy> phunkalicious:  I think where I left off, I was about to try using an audio filter from mplayer to scale-up the volume.
[07:22] <Subhuman> IseeIsee, that youve downloaded? or
[07:23] <Subhuman> IseeIsee, use Synaptic
[07:23] <morrolan> dpkg -i <path to file>.deb ?
[07:23] <Subhuman> IseeIsee, or if you downloaded them "sudo dpkg -i packname.deb"
[07:23] <XGas> I got the new kernel downloaded, how do I install it?
[07:23] <phunkalicious> squidgy, what's odd is that the sound works great in VLC, only not in totem ;)
[07:23] <phunkalicious> maybe you can try that
[07:23] <morrolan> XGas, did you use apt-get or Synaptic?
[07:23] <IseeIsee> ok first of all I've an old version of Ubunti, its the one which used to ship in light brown & orange colored Cd Cover
[07:23] <morrolan> 5.04?
[07:24] <dadgumit> which kernel should be used for AMD64 in 32 bit mode?
[07:24] <Subhuman> IseeIsee, makes no difference.
[07:24] <Subhuman> !synaptic
[07:24] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:24] <IseeIsee> its 4.10
[07:25] <ardchoille> Is that Warty?
[07:25] <Xyloc> Hi everyone
[07:25] <ardchoille> It's been so long
[07:25] <IseeIsee> right now after booting the OS I just get a login screen and when I log in I have the shell, I guess I need to install packages now
[07:25] <IseeIsee> yeah its Warty
[07:25] <squidgy> phunkalicious:  thanks, I'll give it a go.  Totem seems rather flakey.  I have another problem on 3 of my systems, all different, where videos in totem started showing completely wrong colors for everything.  Nobody could help with that, either.
[07:25] <IseeIsee> so basically how can I install packages ?
[07:25] <Subhuman> squidgy, itz totem handles codecs badlu
[07:25] <Xyloc> I just screwed up my boot environment by moving the partitions.
[07:26] <Subhuman> squidgy, i have videos that are all skewed and lame in totem, but in gxine are crystal
[07:26] <Subhuman> Xyloc, edit your /etc/fstab to fix it then
[07:26] <Xyloc> Does anyone know how to reconfigure GRUB so that it can find my partitions and images again?
[07:26] <gavagai> IseeIsee, from the shell you can:  apt-get install <packagename>
[07:26] <dek_aik> Subhuman: its not that i have problem with the video program (i use kplayer and kaffeine, btw), but the the fonts thing is just silly..thank you anyway
[07:26] <squidgy> Subhuman:  my color problem is for all videos in totem, not just ones with particular codecs.  I'll give gxine a try, thanks.
[07:26] <Subhuman> Xyloc, just put in the correct /dev/ points
[07:26] <phunkalicious> maybe try installing totem-xine
[07:27] <Subhuman> squidgy, if you get w32codecs & gxine then they work great together.
[07:27] <usr13> where do we get the make command?
[07:27] <sladen> usr13: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:27] <Subhuman> usr13,  "sudo apt-get install build-essential "
[07:27] <usr13> What application do I need to install to get the make command?
[07:27] <Subhuman> in a terminal.
[07:27] <usr13> ok
[07:27] <Subhuman> usr13, or just "sudo apt-get install make" but you will prob need all the other stuff in build essential anyway :P
[07:27] <IseeIsee> gavagai so I tried doing apt-get install xubuntu-desktop but it says "couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop"
[07:27] <dadgumit> Which 32bit kernel do you use for AMD64?
[07:28] <Xyloc> Subhuman, my fstab seems to be OK.
[07:28] <Subhuman> dadgumit, k7 or i686
[07:28] <IseeIsee> also I need to know is there a place where I can get a list of what package does what ?
[07:28] <Subhuman> Xyloc, but you said you moved the partitions.
[07:28] <squidgy> Does anyone know how to specify that I have a 5-button mouse?  I tried 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', but no dice.
[07:28] <Subhuman> Xyloc, do you get to the grub meny?
[07:28] <Xyloc> Subh: yes, I do
[07:28] <dadgumit> Subhuman: I am using i686 now, but can't get smp working (have added linux-686-smp) any ideas?
[07:29] <Subhuman> dadgumit, well k7 might work, no harm in downloading it and trying.
[07:29] <morrolan> ardchoille:  weirdest thing - I don't have a .bash_profile either
[07:29] <Subhuman> k7 is for athlon cpu's/
[07:29] <ardchoille> What is "smp"? What are the advantages?
[07:29] <Subhuman> morrolan, you dont HAVE o have one
[07:29] <Xyloc> Subh: somehow Grub can't find my image
[07:29] <ardchoille> morrolan: You can put aliases in .bashrc.. that's what I do
[07:29] <dadgumit> Subhuman: I supose you are correct, but I hate to cripple my processor with older optimizations if there is another way to get smp working
[07:30] <morrolan> Subhuman:  Yes I know, but .bashrc is called BY .bash_profile
[07:30] <Subhuman> ardchoille, "sythetic mutliprocessor support", lets multiple threads run at once.
[07:30] <dadgumit> ardchoille: multiplu proce
[07:30] <Subhuman> dadgumit, k7 isnt older, and it supports smp
[07:30] <ardchoille> Ahh, that does sound nice
[07:30] <Xyloc> Subh: That's why I'm using Knoppix as a restore
[07:30] <Subhuman> dadgumit,  Linux ubdesktop 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 7 20:10:15 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:30] <dadgumit> ardchoillie: you need a dual core or multi proc board to run it
[07:30] <Subhuman> my current kernel
[07:30] <Subhuman> see, smp support.
[07:31] <dadgumit> Subhuman:  :)
[07:31] <ardchoille> morrolan: If you look at the .bashrc that I pasted for you, you'll see some aliases that are commented out
[07:31] <IseeIsee> so basically I want to install all the basic packages, but for that I need a list of basic packages
[07:31] <ardchoille> dadgumit: I do? Ok, looks like I need to go shopping :)
[07:31] <FunnyLookinHat> IseeIsee, a good one to try is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <morrolan> ardchoille:  I know, but when I login, .bashrc isn't read, because it is normally run by .bash_profile
[07:31] <Subhuman> IseeIsee, just do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if your using 4.10
[07:31] <dadgumit> ardchoille: or a hyperthreaded pc if you are intel based
[07:32] <FunnyLookinHat> hey dadgumit
[07:32] <FunnyLookinHat> what's up
[07:32] <ardchoille> morrolan: Did you install LFS or something? lol
[07:32] <dadgumit> nota lota, just trying to get the computer to bow to my will
[07:32] <morrolan> ardchoille: no, everything else works spankingly well after a fresh install (was on 5.04)
[07:32] <ardchoille> dadgumit: Then you're gonna need patience-0.6.so.0 lol
[07:33] <FunnyLookinHat> dadgumit, hjahahaa
[07:33] <IseeIsee> Subhuman, it said "Reading Package Lists... Done" && "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded"
[07:33] <ardchoille> morrolan: Wow, I installed from the desktop CD and the only thing I really needed to do was install irssi and I was good
[07:33] <dadgumit> ardchoille: unfortunatly the upgrade path is brutal on that one
[07:33] <XGas> nice, 381 updates for 6.06 on clean install.
[07:33] <Subhuman> IseeIsee, well do a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[07:33] <ardchoille> dadgumit: ROFL!
[07:33] <Xyloc> Subhuman: Yes, I get to the GRUB prompt and my Windows partition still works, but GRUB can't find my linux image
[07:34] <morrolan> ardchoille:  Could you pastebin me your .bash_profile please?
[07:34] <Subhuman> Xyloc, im guessing you only have one linux partiton?
[07:34] <ardchoille> !! dadgumit!! ardchoille: unfortunatly the upgrade path is brutal on that one
[07:34] <Xyloc> No, actually I have three, namely: /boot, /usr and /home
[07:35] <IseeIsee> subhuman I have an old machine, I don't want to install the full ubuntu, I want xubuntu
[07:35] <Subhuman> Xyloc, if so, in /etc/fstab ( use a live cd or do it in windows ) edit the line / and probably the hdaX has changed, so rename them.
[07:35] <dadgumit> brb, reboot
 Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail  <-- what edit request? Did ubotu screw up?
[07:35] <Subhuman> IseeIsee, I dont think 4.10 xubuntu was even about.
[07:35] <morrolan> xubuntu started at 5.10 I think
[07:36] <Xyloc> Subhuman: Yes, my / has swapped with my /boot...
[07:36] <IseeIsee> oh I'm using linux for the first time, so my knowledge is limited, thanks for informing :)
[07:36] <Subhuman> ardchoille, no, a double !! thought you wanted to edit dadgummit
[07:36] <IseeIsee> so basically what should I do to get something like xubuntu from ubuntu 4.10 ?
[07:36] <morrolan> IseeIsee:  a fresh install I think
[07:36] <Subhuman> Xyloc, so reflect that change in fstab, if boot was hda1 and / was hda2, make /boot hda2 and / hda1 for example
[07:36] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: maybe just try sudo apt-get ubuntu-minimal first, ubuntu-standard, then xserver-xorg and xfce
[07:36] <epimer> hi guys
[07:37] <Subhuman> IseeIsee, goto xubuntu.org and download the cd.
[07:37] <ardchoille> Subhuman: Oh, ok, a !! nick !! is in my irssi theme to show me that someone said my nick.
[07:37] <epimer> i have a problem with devil's pie - should the set_workspace function still work with compiz?
[07:37] <Jug> does ubuntu dapper install provide necessary drivers to get my usb wlan adapter(orinoco) to work in install?
[07:37] <IseeIsee> yeah I've put the linux to download, but internet is very slow here, its gonna take 2 days atleast
[07:37] <Xyloc> Subhuman: Rather funny actually, I'll give it a try and reboot.
[07:37] <FunnyLookinHat> Jug, yes, it should work fine with orinoco
[07:37] <Subhuman> epimer, im not sure if devilspie works with xgl, i cant see why not.
[07:37] <Jug> FunnyLookinHat: but I mean does it detect it?
[07:38] <Xyloc> Subhuman: If this works you have just spared me approx. 6 hours work.
[07:38] <Subhuman> IseeIsee, well if you only have a 4.10 machine itz about the only option you got.
[07:38] <Subhuman> Xyloc, lets hope so then :D
[07:38] <IseeIsee> also another thing initially I installed the full ubuntu-desktop but it was not detecting my network connection
[07:38] <Xyloc> Subhuman: I keep my fingers crossed, but thx inadvance!
[07:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Jug, yup!   Try the liveCD installer, it should allow you to access wireless from the LiveCD before you even install
[07:38] <Jug> FunnyLookinHat: at least when I tried it didn't find it..so I'm wondering if I need to do something to get that usb wlan to work..
[07:38] <epimer> Subhuman, that's what i thought, but running devilspie -d says it's changing to workspace 1, and it doesn't
[07:38] <Jug> FunnyLookinHat: well I have alternative install cd only..
[07:38] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i copy files off a live cd to my real hard drive?
[07:39] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: try apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal
[07:39] <Subhuman> epimer, best thing to do is ask at #ubuntu-xgl , they will now.
[07:39] <FunnyLookinHat> Jug, ooh.  Hmm....
[07:39] <Subhuman> know*
[07:39] <epimer> it centers and maximises like i wanted, but not the workspace switching (which is why i want devilspie in the first place)
[07:39] <epimer> Subhuman, ty, i'll try there
[07:39] <Subhuman> roostishaw, mount your real hard drive and then just copy from the filesystem.
[07:39] <FunnyLookinHat> Jug, try searching ubuntuforums.org quickly, it should tell you if osmoene has had a similiar situation to yours
[07:39] <IseeIsee> dek_aik it says no packages found
[07:39] <Subhuman> roostishaw, if you have an ntfs partiton though your out of luck.
[07:40] <roostishaw> Subhuman, :(
[07:40] <Subhuman> roostishaw, why do you need to copy live cd files over though?
[07:40] <roostishaw> Subhuman, there is no way then? i cant mount the iso as a disk, then copy them over?
[07:40] <IseeIsee> dek_aik I tried ubuntu-minimal it says "Invalid operation ubuntu-minimal"
[07:40] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: you must edit your /etc/apt/source.list to include dapper repo
[07:40] <roostishaw> Subhuman, i want some config files from nubuntu for fluxbox
[07:40] <Subhuman> roostishaw, you can mount the iso, but all the files are in compressed form.
[07:40] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: "apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal"
[07:41] <Subhuman> roostishaw, ask Tomb for them at nubuntu.org then.
[07:41] <roostishaw> Subhuman, i want to copy that look on the live cd to my fluxbox desktop
[07:41] <IseeIsee> dek_aik that did not worked either
[07:41] <Subhuman> roostishaw, if itz still how i used to use it, itz just the "choke" theme.
[07:41] <roostishaw> Subhuman, who is this Tomb?
[07:42] <IseeIsee> ok
[07:42] <Subhuman> roostishaw, the developer of nubuntu, hes a decent guy, he should send them over
[07:42] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: ubuntu-minimal is the minimal core of ubuntu..do you have dapper repo in you /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:42] <Subhuman> roostishaw, an EASIER way actrually
[07:42] <Xyloc> Bye everyone, thx for the help
[07:42] <Subhuman> roostishaw, is just to email them to yourself.
[07:42] <sysdoc> Has anyone had any trouble with xserver-xorg-core when upgrading from 10.0 to 10.1? X crashes and restarts when the screensaver kicks in. Can't even go into the screensaver settings to turn it off without X doing the face plant...
[07:42] <roostishaw> Subhuman, from within the live cd?
[07:42] <IseeIsee> how do I open sources.list ?
[07:42] <Subhuman> roostishaw, yes.
[07:43] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, weird.   try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:43] <roostishaw> IseeIsee, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:43] <IRCMonkeyx> could anyone help me ? when i try to open disk manager, i get error as "the configration could not be loadded" there was an error at backend script"
[07:43] <Subhuman> roostishaw, if you join irc.hak5.org #hak5 , tomb is pretty active there and he might be able to send you them somehow?
[07:43] <IseeIsee> roostishaw I'm on the shell, there is no gedit yet
[07:43] <Subhuman> IseeIsee, use nano then
[07:43] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list (in gui)...or use nano (my fav also)
[07:44] <Subhuman> i prefer vim but nano is more friendly.
[07:44] <sri_> hi is there a operation like defragmentation like in windows?
[07:44] <sri_> in linuxx
[07:44] <Subhuman> sri_, not nesscearry
[07:44] <Subhuman> sri_, linux filesystems dont get fragmented.
[07:44] <sri_> Subhuman, why?
[07:44] <IseeIsee> dek_aik I guess you missed my initial post, I don't have a GUI loaded yet
[07:44] <roostishaw> IseeIsee, nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:44] <IseeIsee> I get a shell after i reboot the PC, I did an expert installation
[07:45] <phunkalicious> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/06/07/15/1346250.shtml :o
[07:45] <sri_> Subhuman, why?
[07:45] <IseeIsee> yeah it opened
[07:45] <UltraMagnus> has anyone here used electric, gnu eda, xcircuit or pcb? i want to know what the best one is for designing PCBs?
[07:45] <epimer> what does Segmentation fault mean? (again, from running devilspie -d)
[07:45] <IRCMonkeyx> could anyone help me ? when i try to open disk manager, i get error as "the configration could not be loadded" there was an error at backend script"
[07:45] <sysdoc> FunnyLookinHat, I have the nvidia driver installed, not liking the looks of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...
[07:45] <Subhuman> sri_, because there journalled and because they just handle free space better really.
[07:45] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: yes sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list..its control-x to save
[07:45] <pharcvde> seg fault means u tried to access memory outside of ur user defined page
[07:45] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, that works fine, all you do is choose nvidia as your driver in the selection screen, I did it and worked fine for me
[07:45] <Subhuman> sysdoc, itz easy to config, jus questions.
[07:45] <pharcvde> seg fault means u tried to access memory outside your assigned page
[07:46] <IseeIsee> so dek-aik whats with the dapper repo, also can I get all the info you are telling somewhere online ?
[07:46] <Ninja> Is there a way to format my windows harddrive from Ubuntu ??
[07:46] <debiz> Ninja use gparted
[07:47] <epimer> pharcvde, i have no idea what you just said, but ty anyway: )
[07:47] <IseeIsee> sources.list is opened, what should I do ?
[07:47] <sysdoc> Subhuman, yea, looks easy, but this xorg.conf isn't your basic setup.
[07:47] <Ninja> debiz, when i start up gparted it just stays at the whole scanning all devices crap
[07:47] <sri_> Subhuman, i am downloading a movie antitrust by torrent can i stop & restat my computer?what is the upload mechanism in it?And what is ment by cap uploads?
[07:47] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: its just my guess..that your current os (warty?) dont have yet the ubuntu-minimal meta packages..dapper does
[07:47] <IseeIsee> yeah its warty Ubuntu 4.10
[07:47] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, l o l.    yes you can stop and restart.  but avoid telling htis channel what illegal things you are downloading
[07:48] <pharcvde>  epimer, the os assigns a program to run in a specified block of memory
[07:48] <Ninja> debiz, any ideas
[07:48] <pharcvde> if the program tries to run outside of that then you get a segmentation fault
[07:48] <epimer> ok
[07:48] <Subhuman> sri_, yes sure it will just pause, and the upload , in bittorrent you "share", so the more of the file "in this case antitrust" that you upload to others, the faster your downloads, but obv, some people do not want that so they cap it ( give a maximum upload speed) but it also means your download is slower.
[07:48] <roostishaw> Subhuman, how can i get to irc.hak5.org #hak5?
[07:48] <epimer> why would it do that. and how would it be fixed?
[07:48] <pharcvde> epimer, the program could ahve a bug in it
[07:49] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: change every "warty" to "dapper" then save (control-x)
[07:49] <Subhuman> roostishaw, depends on your irc client really.
[07:49] <pharcvde> where it is gettign a buffer overlflow of some sort
[07:49] <roostishaw> Subhuman, xchat
[07:49] <setuid> Can someone tell me how I can force the default Ubuntu UP/SMP kernel to be UP, and *NOT* SMP?
[07:49] <setuid> There doesn't appear to be a UP-only kernel for Ubuntu
[07:49] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: hey
[07:49] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: sudo apt-get update, apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal
[07:49] <IRCMonkeyx> could anyone help me ? when i try to open disk manager, i get error as "the configration could not be loadded" there was an error at backend script"
[07:49] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, hey whats up
[07:49] <epimer> pharcvde, given that it's devilspie, is it likely that i'm screwing up the .ds files and that's doing it?
[07:49] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, did you get it all working?
[07:50] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: nope  :(
[07:50] <Ninja> Anyone know why my gparted gets stuck at "scanning all devices""????
[07:50] <bbrazil> setuid: try maxcpus=1
[07:50] <FunnyLookinHat> waaaa?!
[07:50] <pharcvde> epimer, i've actually never used that program before...
[07:50] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, dang...  what happened.
[07:50] <setuid> bbrazil, grub line?
[07:50] <bbrazil> setuid: technically it's a kernal boot option
[07:50] <setuid> bbrazil, right
[07:50] <pharcvde> epimer, i'm not even sure what it is for
[07:50] <setuid> bbrazil, We're having some trouble debugging a udev issue, and we think the kernel being SMP is the issue.
[07:50] <roostishaw> Subhuman, where are all the files? i just put in the nubuntu live cd
[07:50] <sri_> Subhuman, if i share it then my downloading speed decreased?
[07:50] <setuid> Would maxcpus=1 really matter there?
[07:51] <Subhuman> roostishaw, for fbox?
[07:51] <IseeIsee> as I asked earlier, can I get all this stuff online ? I basically wanna learn the ins & outs of setting up linux & all that
[07:51] <bbrazil> setuid: If it's a race condition, yes
[07:51] <epimer> pharcvde, oh, ok. it involves writing little scripts to tell different windows what to do (e.g. center, maximise, set workspace), etc.
[07:51] <Subhuman> roostishaw,  itz been a long time but  ~/.fluxbox/ i think.
[07:51] <setuid> bbrazil, Ok, testing that now...
[07:51] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: the monitor light stays swithched off; the screen is blank. I can hear the os booting up and it gets to the login page. i blindly put that and password and i can hear the system login with the sounds . Cnt+alt+F1 does nothing
[07:51] <Subhuman> sri_, if you share it INCREASES.
[07:51] <Ninja> Cansomeone tell me why Gparted gets stuck on "scanning all deivces"?? please
[07:51] <roostishaw> Subhuman, no, like... on the cd.
[07:51] <Subhuman> so itz good to have upload speeds.
[07:51] <pharcvde> epimer, oh
[07:51] <epimer> and given that i'm grossly incompetent, i'd be willing to bet it's my terrible scripting files that are causing problems
[07:51] <Subhuman> roostishaw, i think itz all compressed so no idea.
[07:51] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, wait, so you don't see ANY output to the screen?  Then the graphics card is dead
[07:51] <roostishaw> Subhuman, im in regular ubuntu. i havn't booted from the live cd yet
[07:51] <Subhuman> anywyas im out
[07:51] <Subhuman> later.
[07:51] <pharcvde> epimer its possible
[07:51] <Livemode> Ubuntu still wont freggin install
[07:51] <bbrazil> setuid: you would have to recompile for single processor for proper testing though. There's extra locking code on SMP stuff
[07:51] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, do you at least see the BIOS throw some stuff out?
[07:52] <Livemode> nothin happens after the live cd login
[07:52] <pharcvde> epimer, sorry i couldnt be of more help
[07:52] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: no, nothing
[07:52] <epimer> pharcvde, thing is, it was working fine until i wrote a new one for amarok. so i deleted that script, and tried it again, and it's still broken :-/
[07:52] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, ok, then it's one of two options.  1 - the graphics card is dead
[07:52] <debiz> Ninja be patient...
[07:52] <epimer> pharcvde, no problem, you've been helpful all the same :)
[07:52] <setuid> bbrazil, Right, and I can't seem to find a stable way to build a default Ubuntu kernel. I've been building kernels for > 12 years here on Linux (I even wrote the HOWTO on it), but when I do that on Ubuntu, things don't build right and won't boot.
[07:52] <debiz> it can take long time
[07:52] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, 2 - there is an option in the bios to use the graphics card as your primary video output...
[07:52] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: when i startup the fan on the graphics card works, which is the only sign of life
[07:52] <Ninja> debiz, i know but like its not suposed to take 5 minutes is it ?
[07:52] <wwallace_lap> is ubuntu better than kanotix?
[07:53] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, then it's probably a setting in the bios, sorry I dont know specifically which one it is
[07:53] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: option 2 may be the case but i wouldn't know where.
[07:53] <debiz> depending on your machine, hd, etc, it could...
[07:53] <tylersmith> I've got an AMD64 with Dapper. I had a P-IV with Breezy and remember that I could prelink and compile the linux kernel... those operations sped things up considerably. Can I prelink and compile the kernel in Dapper?
[07:53] <teknoprep> hey
[07:53] <bbrazil> setuid: there's a page on the wiki about it I think
[07:53] <teknoprep> what is the gnome package for the wireless configurator?
[07:53] <teknoprep> i want to install it for kde
[07:53] <teknoprep> the kde one blows horribly
[07:54] <wwallace_lap> is there a bot here?
[07:54] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: even if the graphics card isn't working, are you suggesting i should get bios output?
[07:54] <tomveens> my X is dead
[07:54] <sri_> Subhuman, Now at present my cap uploads are 20 & my cap uploading speed is 20 kbps.....if i increase more no of caps then the download rate increases??at present my downloading speed is 1.5kbps;My actual downloading speed is 15kbps
[07:54] <wwallace_lap> !factoids
[07:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about factoids - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:54] <IseeIsee> dek_aik it says permission denied for writing on file
[07:54] <Livemode> still  nothin happens after the live cd login. the live CD doesnt seem to load
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, well if you dont see any output on the graphics card it could be one or the other, only way to findout is to find that setting in bios and set it
[07:54] <moko> hi folks! anyone knows a channel for support in xgl/compiz?
[07:54] <picket>  #xgl
[07:55] <veer> hi, does anyone know how I can get rid of the Grub boot loader time limit (i.e 10 seconds) ?
[07:55] <teknoprep> anyone?
[07:55] <moko> wow! thanks...
[07:55] <picket> :>
[07:55] <teknoprep> what is the name of the gnome wireless tool?
[07:55] <setuid> bbrazil, any citation on that?
[07:55] <FunnyLookinHat> veer, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:55] <wwallace_lap> ubuntu uses gnome or kde?
[07:55] <picket> gnome
[07:55] <teknoprep> gnome
[07:55] <veer> FunnyLookinHat: Ah, and then?
[07:55] <wwallace_lap> oh
[07:55] <wwallace_lap> but if i want i vcan change to kde?
[07:55] <pharcvde> ubuntu is default gnome
[07:55] <tylersmith> Hi! Can I prelink in Dapper?
[07:55] <pharcvde> kubuntu is default kde
[07:55] <teknoprep> anyone
[07:56] <pharcvde> i'm running ubuntu without gnome
[07:56] <teknoprep> i know someone knows... wtf is the name of the gnome wireless tool?
[07:56] <IseeIsee> dek_aik u there ?
[07:56] <FunnyLookinHat> veer, should fix it
[07:56] <FunnyLookinHat> veer, look for a timelimit setting
[07:56] <wwallace_lap> id like to try kubuntu and see if is as easy as kanotix
[07:56] <teknoprep> omfg
[07:56] <picket> the wireless-thingie is called ndiswraper
[07:56] <tomveens> My X gives a black screen and when I shut it down <Ctrl><Alt><Backspace> then it says : FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing
[07:56] <teknoprep> this channel is f'n worthless
[07:56] <teknoprep> lol
[07:56] <tomveens> what do I have to do?
[07:56] <sysdoc> FunnyLookinHat, anyother ideas? Screensaver still brings down X.
[07:56] <IseeIsee> guys how can I format my drive to FAT32 ? currently is ext3 and I've the shell opened in front of me
[07:56] <FunnyLookinHat> teknoprep, Sorry ,what is your question?
[07:56] <pharcvde> teknoprep why is that?
[07:57] <Livemode> Ubuntu still wont freggin install
[07:57] <morrolan> IseeIsee:  cfdisk
[07:57] <teknoprep> i know someone knows... wtf is the name of the gnome wireless tool?
[07:57] <Livemode> still  nothin happens after the live cd login. the live CD doesnt seem to load
[07:57] <jeff_> does anyone here use Apache HTTP Server? I have a few newbie questions
[07:57] <Livemode> Ubuntu still wont freggin install
[07:57] <Livemode> still  nothin happens after the live cd login. the live CD doesnt seem to load
[07:57] <teknoprep> that is my 4th time asking
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, dang weird.  I have no idea, I would either kill your screensaver (your graphics may not support it) or just revert to older x
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> teknoprep, network-manager-gnome is a good tool
[07:57] <teknoprep> i am running kubuntu and the kde wireless tool blows..
[07:57] <veer> FunnyLookinHat:  What should i set it to, if i don't want the timelimit?
[07:57] <IseeIsee> morrolan from where should I run cfdisk ?
[07:57] <teknoprep> FunnyLookinHat: i installed that.. but don't have a program called network-manager-gnome
[07:57] <bbrazil> !kernal
[07:57] <veer> FunnyLookinHat: ie. should i just delete 10 seconds?
[07:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernal - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> teknoprep, you could also try network-manager-kde for KDE
[07:57] <picket> teknoprep ive told you allready
[07:57] <tomveens> I have no screensavers and no gdm
[07:57] <teknoprep> FunnyLookinHat: how do i start it?
[07:57] <picket> ndiswraper
[07:57] <veer> FunnyLookinHat: and leave it blank?
[07:57] <Ninja> debiz, so how long should this take to scan all devices
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> veer, set it to 1 sec
[07:58] <bbrazil> bah, he's gone
[07:58] <teknoprep> picket: i didn't say drivers fool
[07:58] <sysdoc> FunnyLookinHat, I would like to revert back to the older X, what would be the easiest way to accomplish that?
[07:58] <picket> ah crap
[07:58] <teknoprep> picket: why would i wanna use windows drivers?
[07:58] <picket> my bad :>
[07:58] <tomveens> it is a server installation where I want to put on mythtv
[07:58] <sri_> Subhuman, Now at present my cap uploads are 20 & my cap uploading speed is 20 kbps.....if i increase more no of caps then the download rate increases??at present my downloading speed is 1.5kbps;My actual downloading speed is 15kbps
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, Through synaptic,  Find the package you installed to upgrade and remove it, that should work.
[07:58] <picket> teknoprep why? to get your card runing
[07:58] <soaz> hi
[07:58] <hakan> hihi
[07:58] <sri_> Subhuman, please solve my prob...
[07:58] <teknoprep> picket: NOO leave me alone picket
[07:58] <teknoprep> now
[07:58] <IseeIsee> from where should I run cfdisk ?
[07:58] <soaz> does anyone here use ubuntu 6.06 on a thinkpad ?
[07:58] <veer> FunnyLookinHat: if i set it to 1second would do not automatically start up linux? I want to set it in such a way that there is no timelimt and i can choose which operating system i want
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, that's a shot in the dark though, so I would try looking on ubuntuforums.org first
[07:59] <Livemode> still  nothin happens after the live cd login. the live CD doesnt seem to load
[07:59] <teknoprep> back to a gui config for ubuntu.. i installed network-config-gnome... now how do i start it?
[07:59] <hakan> i gone away
[07:59] <hakan> bayyy
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> veer, oooooh, you want NO  time limit.  Sorry!   Yes you could try removing it
[07:59] <hakan> biyeeee
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> veer, if not just set it to a ridiculously large value
[07:59] <sysdoc> FunnyLookinHat, Yea thought of that already and if I want to remove xorg I'm left with it ripping out GDM and KDM. Not really wanting that option. Should be a way to just role back the update
[07:59] <[Grendel] > Hi, how can ic find out if something is in the kernel, e.g support for a martox card. A friend wants to know if the driver for the g450 is in his Suse kernel
[07:59] <veer> FunnyLookinHat: Hah. Thanks for the help, i appreceaite it :)
[08:00] <dek_aik> IseeIsee: if you want to know the contain of the packages in ubuntu just download it in the repo file Packages.gz it contain all file in specific
[08:00] <teknoprep> omfg
[08:00] <soaz> i have a little problem. the 6.06 does make use of the notebook's volume control buttons - they are controling the master volume. how do i switch this off ? to make this independent ? does anybody know, please ?
[08:00] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, yea I'm not aware of one.  Sorry    : (
[08:00] <computergee> Could anybody here help me setup my 5.1 speakers? I can't get them to work, I have an nForce3 board, and I'm using the onboard sound.
[08:00] <FunnyLookinHat> veer, no problem dude
[08:00] <Ackeubu_> is there any safe graphical partition manager that can be run within ubuntu to format a 80gb usb disc?
[08:00] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, For now I would just disable your screensave
[08:01] <dek_aik> lseelsee: for example http://kambing.vlsm.org/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[08:01] <FunnyLookinHat> Ackeubu_, gparted I believe
[08:01] <Ackeubu_> need to set it up to install ubuntu on the disk
[08:01] <FunnyLookinHat> Ackeubu_, actually
[08:01] <Ninja> how long should it take Gparted to scan all devices cuz its beein doin it for like 10 minutes ????
[08:01] <Ackeubu_> ?
[08:01] <sysdoc> FunnyLookinHat, Can't, just going to the screensaver settings bring down the X server
[08:01] <ddonky> anyone know the sys requirments to run 'Tremulous'?
[08:01] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: ?
[08:01] <FunnyLookinHat> Ackeubu_, if you want to install ubuntu to the disk why don't you just run the LiveCD installer?
[08:01] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, oh LOL
[08:01] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, : (
[08:02] <Livemode> the liveCD installer dont work for me!
[08:02] <sysdoc> FunnyLookinHat, yea, Ubuntu es borked!
[08:02] <stinkball> Hi, i have a soundblaster audigy2 zs and i cannot get the sound to work. can anyone help me?
[08:02] <Livemode> xserver starts but doesnt do anything
[08:02] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, i guess... I've never heard of that issue.  nobody else is reporting that error so it oculd be specific to your setup
[08:02] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat:  because it doesnt work when i try to install and the drive is on my laptop
[08:02] <IseeIsee> dek_aik right, can you tell me from where can I run cfdisk, I wanna partition my drive as FAT32
[08:02] <FunnyLookinHat> Livemode, arg.  The newest one (dapper drake)?  If that isn't working, try the alternate install CD that is text based
[08:03] <epimer> i tried devilspie with metacity rather than compiz...and the workspace switching worked fine
[08:03] <ddonky> stinkball - is your card detected?
[08:03] <Livemode> where can i get the text based install
[08:03] <Livemode> i ahev tryed installing breezy and it dont work
[08:03] <Livemode> it just freezes
[08:03] <neosc> lo all. Synaptic asks me to insert cd, while i have inserted the dvd in the dvdrom. Synaptic isnt looking into my dvdrom. how do i set it to look there and not the dvd ?
[08:03] <stinkball> yeah, it shows up in the device manager
[08:03] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, hi!if i increase the no of cap uploads then the downlodaing speed increases?
[08:03] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: my drive is completely fuc*ed up, i tried to upgrade my dual boot win/ubu 5.10 to 6.06 now i cant even install win, with the setup cds from my laptop. i have tried everything.. its really badly scr*wed up.
[08:03] <teknoprep> hmm
[08:04] <sysdoc> FunnyLookinHat, ya know it might be a glx thang, cause the screensaver applet loads and then crashes just as the example screen wants to display the sample screen saver
[08:04] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, what is the fun of cap uploads?
[08:04] <dek_aik> lseelsee: from prompt: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdx.. x is your drive mine is /dev/hda
[08:04] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, cap uploads limits the ammount of users who can download from you, should not affect your download speed
[08:04] <Ninja> how long should it take for Gparted to scann all evices?? comeone not that hard of a question..
[08:04] <teknoprep> oyo
[08:04] <FunnyLookinHat> Ackeubu_, if you can't even install windows on the drive then the drive is probably crashed because windoze can format the etnire drive to fix it
[08:04] <IseeIsee> can we install 6.06 on home PC's ?
[08:04] <teknoprep> network-manager-kde OWNS
[08:04] <teknoprep> very nice stuff
[08:04] <XGas> Use Microsofts Virtual PC, and try first, its FREE now, go check their webpage, when installing Ubuntu 6.06 select "Safe VGA mode" or you won't be able to see anything.
[08:05] <vdepizzol> how I start ubuntu linux with the windows boot starter (NTLDR)?
[08:05] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, You could try reverting to the VESA driver  :-/
[08:05] <teknoprep> has a wpa_supplicant setup too.. but didn't get it to work yet
[08:05] <neosc> upon applying changes, Synaptic asks me to insert cd, while i have inserted the dvd in the dvdrom. Synaptic isnt looking into my dvdrom. how do i set it to look there and not the dvd ?
[08:05] <neosc> not hte cd*
[08:05] <sysdoc> FunnyLookinHat, lol, ummm I'm thinking NOT!
[08:05] <NthDegree> use VMWare Server
[08:05] <NthDegree> it is free and faster
[08:05] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: yeah.. ;o but i will not give up on it quite yet..
[08:05] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, just a suggestion  : P
[08:05] <XGas> Naaah
[08:05] <FunnyLookinHat> sysdoc, ; )
[08:05] <sysdoc> lol
[08:06] <dek_aik> lseelsee: basically yes, depends on the specs..i installed it inmy PC and laptop
[08:06] <XGas> Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 is better
[08:06] <cypher1> neosc, "sudo apt-cdrom add" is not helpful ?
[08:06] <NthDegree> no it isn't
[08:06] <XGas> or you do clean install with just Ubuntu.
[08:06] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, Sorry i have another dout that is my actual downloading speed is 15kbps but now i am getting 1.5kbps only ?why?
[08:06] <NthDegree> it was made primarily to run windows Virtual PC was
[08:06] <XGas> yeah, so?
[08:06] <IseeIsee> dek-aik its giving me an error on cfdisk
[08:06] <NthDegree> VMWare Player is 10x quicker and VMWare server is about 4x quicker
[08:06] <XGas> It can work if you do the easy work around.
[08:06] <dek_aik> lseelsee: my wild guess is that if you have warty then you could have dapper...the difference is just in the packages
[08:07] <damotor> is there anyway to use a camcorder with amsn?
[08:07] <NthDegree> XGas why do workarounds when VMWare has a superior free product?
[08:07] <IseeIsee> well I tried saving that sources.list file but it said write permission denied
[08:07] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, that's based on the health of the torrent, also you have to forward ports 6881-6889 if you are behind a router
[08:07] <XGas> Dude, you can't make your own stuff with VMware server.
[08:07] <NthDegree> You can
[08:07] <XGas> No.
[08:07] <neosc> cypher1 : no. thats the problem, its identifuing the cdrom, and looking in it, while i want it to look into /media/dvdrecorder cause thats where my dvd is mounted
[08:08] <NthDegree> how long have you been in a coma for?
[08:08] <XGas> Not like VMware Workstation.
[08:08] <dek_aik> lseelsee: what kind?
[08:08] <NthDegree> yes you can
[08:08] <NthDegree> I use it
[08:08] <XGas> but needs money
[08:08] <NthDegree> no it doesn't
[08:08] <NthDegree> I use it
[08:08] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, can u tell the process plz
[08:08] <XGas> VMware smallest download size is 20 megs, biggest is 100mb, Virtual PC is ownly 18
[08:08] <usr13> Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build;
[08:09] <usr13> Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build;
[08:09] <dek_aik> lseelsee: you should use sudo.."sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:09] <stinkball> Hi, i have a soundblaster audigy2 zs and i cannot get the sound to work. the card is detected and shows up in the device manager.  can anyone help me?
[08:09] <J-_> how can i convert a .rpm into a .deb?
[08:09] <Ninja> Can someone help me my gparted wont get past the whole scanning all devices crap
[08:09] <neosc> cypher1 : no. thats the problem, its identifuing the cdrom, and looking in it, while i want it to look into /media/dvdrecorder cause thats where my dvd is mounted
[08:09] <NthDegree> XGas is that a real argument when VMWare can run with Linux or Windows as the host OS
[08:09] <usr13> Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build;
[08:09] <XGas> J- you can, but the really hard way.
[08:09] <jpjacobs> J-_, use alien
[08:09] <IseeIsee> dek_aik on cfdisk it says "FATAL ERROR cannot open disk drive"
[08:09] <XGas> rofl.
[08:09] <^THE_HAMMER^> hey all anyone know another command OTHER THEN sudo apt-get eggdrop
[08:09] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, are you behind a router?
[08:10] <usr13> (Just installed "linux-headers" and tring to run make against ndiswrapper)
[08:10] <dek_aik> lseelsee: you should use sudo.."sudo cfdisk /dev/hdx"
[08:10] <XGas> Is RedHat Fedora any good?
[08:10] <Ribs> XGas: Fedora is more of a rolling beta
[08:10] <Ribs> but's a nice distro in it's own right
[08:10] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, no;I am using brod band ;How can u say whether u r behind a router?
[08:10] <FunnyLookinHat> XGas, it's a pretty stable release.
[08:10] <XGas> I'm going to test it......
[08:11] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, do you have more than one computer at your location?
[08:11] <cypher1> neosc, did you try adding manually ?
[08:11] <XGas> I'm downloading it now.
[08:11] <Ninja> can someone help me get gparted started cuz its getting stuck at the whole scanning for devices thing
[08:11] <usr13> Running make for first time, and it's not working.
[08:11] <neosc> cypher1 : how do i do that?
[08:11] <NthDegree> Fedora Core 5 has outstanding security in comparison, but slower download speeds for updates and not quite as large community
[08:11] <neosc> anything in preferences?
[08:11] <IseeIsee> dek_aik how much time it took you to gain good familiarity with ubuntu ?
[08:11] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, not at this time......But at ground floor there is a computer(my friend)
[08:12] <cypher1> neosc, manually editing sources.list
[08:12] <XGas> Yeah, I'm downloading 5.90 or its known as RC6 test 1
[08:12] <IseeIsee> also is this structure same for all linux distro, like sudo and installing packages ?
[08:12] <^THE_HAMMER^> anyone here help me with getting eggdrop?
[08:12] <BazziR> NthDegree: do you use FC5 regularly?
[08:12] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, ok try opening firefox and going to this address:   http://192.168.1.1
[08:12] <dek_aik> lseelsee: try it everyday...let say a month? and keep learning
[08:12] <Sakireth> hi.
[08:12] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, enter admin for username and admin for password
[08:12] <XGas> No, the 1st I ever use is 6.0
[08:12] <IseeIsee> dek_aik learn where ?
[08:12] <XGas> RedHat 6.0
[08:12] <cypher1> neosc, something like "deb file:/media/dvd dapper main restricted"
[08:12] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, ok 1min
[08:12] <Sakireth> i need help with my video card. ATI Radeon 9600 XT
[08:12] <IseeIsee> and try what ?
[08:12] <Ninja> can someone help me format my windows hardrive from ubuntu
[08:12] <dadgumit> DADGUMIT
[08:12] <NthDegree> BazziR, Indeed I do I use Ubuntu, Fedora and CentOS regularly
[08:12] <dadgumit> my name is perfect for this
[08:12] <XGas> ATI has bad driver support even in Windows
[08:12] <Sakireth> i need help with my video card. ATI Radeon 9600 XT, i did everything from the howto but i get SGI as device string when i do glxinfo.
[08:13] <XGas> ATI has bad driver support even in Windows!!!!!
[08:13] <dek_aik> lseelsee: my pc of course at home
[08:13] <BazziR> NthDegree: have you recently had severe problems updating FC? I cannot get the software update to work, neither gui nor console wise :(
[08:13] <Sakireth> so i should do the original drivers?
[08:13] <FunnyLookinHat> Sakireth, that could just be due to the faulty driver   it's not very good for ati on linux
[08:13] <Ninja> can someone help me format my windows hardrive from ubuntu
[08:13] <^THE_HAMMER^> indeed lol he running into same probs/headaces as i did
[08:13] <dadgumit> for instance, it saves, me typing as in I don't have to type: dadgumit, I still haven't gotten SMP running, I can just type: I still haven't gotten SMP running
[08:13] <Sakireth> just use the normal driver?
[08:13] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, go to System - Administration - Disks
[08:13] <XGas> Maybe redirect the update server to a mirro near you?
[08:13] <NthDegree> BazziR, in FC 5 pup is the slowest thing on earth use yum update
[08:13] <XGas> Maybe redirect the update server to a mirror* near you?
[08:13] <dadgumit> so anyways, no SMP, anyone got any ideas?
[08:13] <Sakireth> how to reset it to the config you had when you installed?
[08:13] <IseeIsee> dek_aik I mean to say, learn stuff like what, there should be a starting point where you go & mess around with things or any starter documentation ?
[08:13] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, Try using that window
[08:14] <LoneShadow> anyone good at remastering livecds ?
[08:14] <BazziR> NthDegree, I did, had some wird dependency problems
[08:14] <IseeIsee> dek_aik I've replaced warty with dapper in the sources.list, now what ?
[08:14] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, that wont open up well it does it jsut kinda hangs there greyish
[08:14] <BazziR> left me dead in the water :(
[08:14] <tulku_> hello. I'm having problems with an automatic update, when installing samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1_i386 . It tells me to sun apt-get -f install, which gives me and error during the pre-removal script
[08:14] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, and gparted gets stuck at the whole scanning deivces crap
[08:14] <tulku_> any ideas how can I fix this?
[08:14] <^THE_HAMMER^> theres only 2 version of linux that ive found that works for my ati card and thats ubuntu and mandriva if ya install anything else dont say ya wasnt warned
[08:14] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, i let it do that for 10 minutes and still nothing
[08:14] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i use new themes in fluxbox?
[08:14] <dek_aik> lseelsee: sudo apt-get update
[08:14] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, then you have a problem with one of the drives, it's probably crashed or has a bad partition table
[08:14] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, you should try using cfdisk in the console
[08:15] <Sakireth> how to reset my Xorg configs to the one i had after my install?
[08:15] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, that is your last hope pretty much  : (
[08:15] <NthDegree> :| BazziR, grab a fedora unity respin as they call them - that is a fedora install DVD preloaded with all the latest updates
[08:15] <need_help> hi
[08:15] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i use new themes in fluxbox?
[08:15] <ardchoille> roostishaw: #fluxbox ?
[08:15] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, i dunno how it could be a bad partition or drive..i just booted into windows this morning..
[08:15] <need_help> Can I have some help compiling gFTP?
[08:15] <XGas> lol, unity respin, nice name.
[08:15] <roostishaw> ardchoille, they're all like "rtfm"
[08:15] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, and windows is on a totaly seperate drive
[08:15] <BazziR> NthDegree, heh I did that with rollup 1 but there were a shitload of updates since. I ended up killing FC completely form my harddrive :(
[08:15] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, oh very strange.
[08:15] <IseeIsee> dek_aik well there is a list of problems, like "Couldn't start source package list cdrom://Ubunt 4.10 _dapper Warthog_
[08:15] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, well try to do it with cfdisk then in the console
[08:15] <dek_aik> lseelsee: rule number 1--dont be afraid to mess with your comp..its just a machine
[08:16] <XGas> what about RedHat Enterprize?
[08:16] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, cfdisk isnt gunna F up my ubuntu drive is it?
[08:16] <^THE_HAMMER^> i wish someone could help me with an eggdrop bot :(
[08:16] <IseeIsee> well dek_aik my machine is p2 233 Mhz 64 mb ibm thinkpad, I guess good enough to mess with ? :)
[08:16] <dadgumit> Looking for ideas to get SMP running
[08:16] <dek_aik> lseelsee: edit sources again, put a "#" in front of the cdrom://Ubuntu
[08:16] <dadgumit> is there any way I can find out if my system is at least trying to fire up with SMP?
[08:16] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, only if you use it to change your ubuntu drive, lol
[08:16] <dadgumit> all iknow how to do is the systems monitor
[08:16] <XGas> Well, Linux has really small amount of cemercial PC games
[08:17] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, just wanna make sure befor i do somthng dum
[08:17] <XGas> But thats not what affect it, really.
[08:17] <tulku_> hi, nobody has the same problem with the security update for samba?
[08:17] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, i opened u r url 192.168.1.1 but error occoured
[08:17] <compengi> dek_aik, and what about important data
[08:17] <IcemanV9> is it possible to reduce the number of ttys?? if so, which file can i edit?
[08:17] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, wow so much BS  fatal error cannot open disk drive
[08:17] <XGas> Most Linux proggies, and installies are hard to understand
[08:17] <IseeIsee> ok on sudo apt-get update, it says "Reading Package List... Done"
[08:17] <compengi> dek_aik, and the money you spent on you pc, if it's very expensive
[08:17] <XGas> I think thats why Debian made the .deb package format.
[08:17] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, how can u say whether u r behind a rotour?
[08:17] <dadgumit> Anyone know how to check if I have SMP running?
[08:18] <usr13> where do I find the log of updates done by apt-get?
[08:18] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, if i formated my windows partition with the XP bootdisk am i gunna be able to acces the formatted drive in ubuntu evo tho it will be NTFS
[08:18] <^THE_HAMMER^> Ninja sounds like partition errors ive had those to
[08:18] <compengi> dek_aik, what you think
[08:18] <dek_aik> lseelsee: rele number 2--put important data somewhere else of course
[08:18] <NthDegree> BazziR, Fedora 5 is quite stable now but Ubuntu will always have one thing better than it - Ubuntu is made for the community, for everyday production use and is considered stable enough to do so, fedora doesn't even have official support available like Ubuntu
[08:18] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, router
[08:18] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, it depends on your IP address and how your network is setup.
[08:18] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, yes, but you won't be able to write data to it, only read
[08:18] <dek_aik> lseelsee: at least have a backup
[08:18] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, that drive is pwnd.
[08:18] <Gassed> Can I have some help compiling  gFTP?
[08:18] <IseeIsee> dek_aik there is no data inside, its just a test PC
[08:18] <XGas> Heh, Ubuntu is ONE CD, and OWNS RH Fedora, and Fedora cna fill a DVD, ROFL.
[08:19] <IseeIsee> yeah so whats next ?
[08:19] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, that is some B^llSh!t
[08:19] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, my local server address is 172.192.111.1
[08:19] <FunnyLookinHat> Gassed, don't compile it!
[08:19] <dek_aik> compengi: rule number 2--put important data somewhere else of course
[08:19] <Gassed> FunnyLookinHat: Why?
[08:19] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, 200 dollar 10k RPM drive wont even work with linux ...ARG!!!!!!
[08:19] <Rondo> How come I can't download kernel <nubers I don't remember> 26? I have <nubers I don't remember>23 right now (which came with xubuntu) but normally an updates button pops up. I do not know how to use Synaptic, and apt-get can't download kernels for some reason
[08:19] <FunnyLookinHat> Gassed, just open up synaptic from System - Administration - Synaptic and search for gFTP
[08:19] <BazziR> NthDegree: if there wouldn't be the software issue for Fedora I'd call it the 2nd best choice after ubuntu for me... but it's just so much pain. nothing gets worse than SuSE when it comes to pain, though.
[08:19] <Gassed> kk
[08:19] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, return it on warranty
[08:19] <morrolan> could someone please pastebin me a default dapper .bash_profile please?  My has gone for a walk...
[08:19] <XGas> What about Mandriva(Formally known as Mandrake)?
[08:19] <dadgumit> looking for some help on SMP, have thus far been unable to get itrunning
[08:19] <IseeIsee> so dek-aik whats next ?
[08:20] <dek_aik> compengi: price is relative, my laptop is less than $180
[08:20] <FunnyLookinHat> Gassed, avoid compiling in a debian based distribution at all costs, because the distro is built to work more easily if you use the packages that are "certified and released" already
[08:20] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: i tried to install 6.06 on my old 40gb hd. but the comp froze up. What can I do? Dont think the comp listens to keys anymore.. >P
[08:20] <usr13> can someone tell me where to find list of updated apps
[08:20] <XGas> Mandrake was good, now they turned into a bunch of greedy money makers.
[08:20] <NthDegree> ha too true :~) SuSE was a lot of polish and a broken underneath
[08:20] <usr13> (that have been updated by apt-get)
[08:20] <FunnyLookinHat> Ackeubu_, Try it two times?
[08:20] <morrolan> could someone please pastebin me a default dapper .bash_profile please?  My has gone for a walk...
[08:20] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: just kill the power?
[08:20] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, but i dunno why it wouldnt work qwindows is on it fine....... and i sent in my second raptor already cuz that got blown toi hell..so that means when it gets back im gunn have 2 raptors and a 80 gig runnin linux and nothing to do with raptors
[08:20] <dek_aik> compengi: i boldly mess around with it..:)
[08:20] <IseeIsee> I did sudo apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal it says "W: Unable to create package ubuntu-minimal, E: No packages found"
[08:20] <compengi> dek_aik, and if someone's pc is 2000$ while you suggest to mess with his pc then
[08:20] <FunnyLookinHat> Ackeubu_, yea, hold down the power button
[08:20] <NthDegree> i think we had better talk about this in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[08:21] <dadgumit> someone help me with getting SMP running on my machine please?
[08:21] <XGas> "Avoid converting RPM to deb package at all cost" At what cost really?
[08:21] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, no clue what to tell you man.  That's weird.  I have a fried that uses those drives all the time with linux fine
[08:21] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: hey
[08:21] <pharcvde> dadgumit what build of the kernel are you using
[08:21] <dek_aik> compengi: 2000 is very expensive!
[08:21] <FunnyLookinHat> XGas, the cost of the RPM not being built for ubuntu, thus it'll install funky packages or weird binaries
[08:21] <NthDegree> XGas at the cost of "poisoning" your system with RH many say
[08:21] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, hey
[08:21] <dek_aik> lseelsee: sudo apt-get update
[08:21] <XGas> Anyway, Mozilla FireFox sucks
[08:21] <IseeIsee> I did that already
[08:21] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, could i pop in my ubuntu disk and just format that drive and be done with it..ill just format not even install linux on it
[08:21] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: you'll never guess- i had never taken the monitor cable off the network card and attached it to the new graphics card!
[08:22] <Gassed> FIREFOX DOES NOT SUCK
[08:22] <dadgumit> pharcvde: I believe I am using 2.6.15-26-k7
[08:22] <Chousuke> ?)
[08:22] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, L O L!!
[08:22] <Ninja> Gassed, ZOMG who said firefox sucks!!!
[08:22] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, so did you get it working?   : )
[08:22] <eyequeue> why all the non9ubuntu discussion here?
[08:22] <Gassed> Ninja: XGas did
[08:22] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: so, now i do have graphics and i'm talking to you with the monitor connected to the graphics card
[08:22] <XGas> Plus any Linux distro has 3000++++ holes, more than any standard size cheese
[08:22] <Ninja> Gassed, ZOMG *heartattack*
[08:22] <XGas> Windows has 800++
[08:22] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: im so embarrassed
[08:22] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, hi!i have a prob how can i play .swf format?What is the name of the flash player to be installed???
[08:22] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, sweet, now go through the nvidia graphics install process
[08:22] <FunnyLookinHat> !nvidia
[08:22] <dadgumit> pharcvde: I couldn't find a smp specific kernel in the package manager, but I did install the linux-k7-smp package
[08:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:22] <Gassed> Ninja: XGas|Anyway, Mozilla FireFox sucks
[08:23] <IseeIsee> after doing sudo apt-get update, I did sudo apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal it says "W: Unable to create package ubuntu-minimal, E: No packages found"
[08:23] <dek_aik> compengi: my point is that if you want to know, than sometimes you should make mistakes, that is the path to understanding
[08:23] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, so u think that might work .
[08:23] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[08:23] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: Im trying 5.10
[08:23] <Chousuke> XGas: Take that elsewhere.
[08:23] <PooPsTech> I have just D/L the 6.06 version of the PowerPC and tried to boot my Mac G3 with it, and after a couple of minutes of waiting the G3 gives up on the CD and starts booting from the HD.  Any ideas?
[08:23] <pharcvde> dadgumit make sure u are booting that kernel in grub
[08:23] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: do you suggest i do it again, from the top?
[08:23] <XGas> !nVidia
[08:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:23] <pharcvde> once it is installed
[08:23] <Ninja> Gassed, *pulls out vurtial shotgun*
[08:23] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, thank u
[08:23] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, i suppose
[08:23] <Gassed> lol
[08:23] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, yup
[08:23] <dadgumit> pharcvde: am, but shouldn't the kernel say SMP in it somewhere?
[08:23] <Ninja> FunnyLookinHat, hmm ...ill try askin one more person
[08:23] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, it'll probably say you already have the packages so then just keep proceeding
[08:23] <FunnyLookinHat> Ninja, go for it, sucks if that drive is pwned.
[08:23] <livingdaylight> but everything will still be ticked in synaptic? as i had installed 'em
[08:23] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: oh, ok
[08:24] <Ninja> If i format a windows heardrive with ubuntu ..jsut format not install will i be able to read and right to that drive with ubuntu ?!?!?
[08:24] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, could not find the package flashplayer-nonfree
[08:24] <pharcvde> dadgumit usually if u are using 32-bit kernels
[08:24] <dadgumit> pharcvde: I haven't been able to get it runing under the 686 kernel either
[08:24] <tulku_> well, I had to  "sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S91samba" to fix the problem. I think this is a bug in the package.
[08:24] <pharcvde> from what i understand dapper amd64 bit based kernels are al smp by default
[08:24] <pharcvde> u can do a cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:24] <dek_aik> lseelsee: strange,,it should be there..what happen if you "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[08:24] <pharcvde> and if u see two cpus ur good to go
[08:24] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, you could probably get away with just doing a nvidia-glx-whatever that is --enable step, and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:25] <NthDegree> Ninja, you can use mkfs.ext3 on a drive and ubuntu will be able to read it
[08:25] <Gassed> What does this mean? (gFTP message) Sent 7,167 of 7,167, transfer stalled, unknown time remaining
[08:25] <PooPsTech> I have just D/L the 6.06 version of the PowerPC and tried to boot my Mac G3 with it, and after a couple of minutes of waiting the G3 gives up on the CD and starts booting from the HD.  Any ideas?  Help Please!
[08:25] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell sri_ about multiverse
[08:25] <Chousuke> Ninja: formatting a drive will delete all the data on it.
[08:25] <Ninja> NthDegree,  ive tried
[08:25] <Gassed> multiverse?
[08:25] <Chousuke> Ninja: or a partition.
[08:25] <IseeIsee> it says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded"
[08:25] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, you need to enable universe and multiverse
[08:25] <Gassed> What does this mean? (gFTP message) Sent 7,167 of 7,167, transfer stalled, unknown time remaining
[08:25] <dadgumit> pharcvde: can you describe that command to me, it didn't work when I tried to run it on the terminal
[08:25] <Ninja> Chousuke, ya i know its my windows ..its on a COMPLETLY different harddrive
[08:25] <ardchoille> !opera
[08:25] <ubotu> An advanced and free (only as in price) Web browser. Howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser - Latest Ubuntu packages always at: http://opera.com/download
[08:26] <Ninja> Chousuke, so u think it would work if i format it..will i be able to read and right ounce i format it with ubuntu and not install
[08:26] <pharcvde> cat just atkes a file and displays it to the stdout of the terminal
[08:26] <Gassed> What does this mean? (gFTP message) Sent 7,167 of 7,167, transfer stalled, unknown time remaining
[08:26] <NthDegree> Ninja you will want to know what hard disk (e.g. /dev/sdb) and partition (e.g. /dev/sdb2) 1st
[08:26] <Ninja> NthDegree, so u think it will work..i already tried that..
[08:26] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: yesterday, when i tried to install ubuntu, i got it to format the entire hd. But it froze up in 17 % today on the other drive it freezes up on 20
[08:26] <Chousuke> Ninja: if you format it, ubuntu will be able to use the space.
[08:26] <Ackeubu_> %
[08:26] <eyequeue> !repeating
[08:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about repeating - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:26] <Chousuke> Ninja: but your windows will be gone. :)
[08:26] <FunnyLookinHat> Gassed, gmm...  that the ftp server is not working properly probably
[08:26] <Gassed> hmm
[08:26] <Gassed> Thats an ass
[08:26] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: % when ccreating ext3 file system..
[08:26] <FunnyLookinHat> Ackeubu_, that's strange,  How oldare the hard drives
[08:26] <Gassed> it keeps doing that when I use linux and connect to it
[08:26] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, sorry i did not know what is universe and multiverse....plz tell it to me
[08:27] <NthDegree> yes just format with mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.xfs and ubuntu can read it
[08:27] <IseeIsee> dek_aik I replied above
[08:27] <eyequeue> !language
[08:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:27] <FunnyLookinHat> !easysource>sri_
[08:27] <FunnyLookinHat> !easysource
[08:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:27] <Ninja> Chousuke, i dont care about windows i dont use it ever ...ill just find somthng else to put on my other 2 10k RPM drives..
[08:27] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, go to that source o matic page
[08:27] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: the old one is 3 years. the new one is 1 year
[08:27] <dadgumit> pharcvde: oh i see, was running it as cat /proc/ cpuinfo with a space
[08:27] <dek_aik> lseelsee: no it cant be..i really think that that somewhere in the sources not right
[08:27] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, and enable everything it offers
[08:27] <NthDegree> ass is a safe word I believe
[08:27] <FunnyLookinHat> !multiverse
[08:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:27] <Chousuke> Ninja: you could probably use gparted to format the drive.
[08:27] <eyequeue> NthDegree, it's offensive
[08:27] <Chousuke> Ninja: it has a gui, and should be easy to use. :)
[08:27] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, you could also visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories for more help
[08:28] <IseeIsee> oh let me check sources again, every warty is to be replaced by dapper, thats it right, no ## should be removed or anything ?
[08:28] <Chousuke> Ninja: install it with apt-get
[08:28] <Ninja> Chouse, i tried Gparted it gets stuck on the whole scannin devices
[08:28] <Chousuke> oh. :/
[08:28] <Chousuke> weird.
[08:28] <LoneShadow> how much space is required for a minimal ubuntu breezy install with X ?
[08:28] <Rondo> How come I can't download kernel <nubers I don't remember> 26? I have <nubers I don't remember>23 right now (which came with xubuntu) but normally an updates button pops up. I do not know how to use Synaptic, and apt-get can't download kernels for some reason
[08:28] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, thank u  very much
[08:28] <NthDegree> eyequeue, well in Britain we say ass and arse all the time - it isn't considered offensive in any european country
[08:28] <dek_aik> lseelsee: r you certain that you changed every warty to dapper and saved the file?
[08:28] <FunnyLookinHat> B R B
[08:28] <dadgumit> pharcvde: no, it has the description of dual core, but cpu cores: 1
[08:28] <Ninja> Chousuke, so this will forsure let my ubuntu read and right on the drive if i format it using the ubuntu CD?
[08:28] <manu_> Grendel
[08:28] <dadgumit> pharcvde: any ideas?
[08:29] <Chousuke> Ninja: why would you use the ubuntu CD? :/
[08:29] <Chousuke> Ninja: you can do it from within ubuntu
[08:29] <NthDegree> you dont use the ubuntu CD
[08:29] <pharcvde> dadgumit what does uname -a say?
[08:29] <IseeIsee> yes every warty is to dapper except a word Warthog
[08:29] <XGas> VMware server can create VMs from scratch?
[08:29] <NthDegree> yes it can
[08:29] <NthDegree> http://www.vmware.com/products/server/faqs.html
[08:29] <Chousuke> XGas: yes.
[08:29] <Ninja> Chousuke, Gparted wILL NOT START it hangs on the whole scannin devices crap
[08:29] <Chousuke> Ninja: well, then do it manually.
[08:29] <NthDegree> it is also 100% free of charge too
[08:29] <XGas> Does it do Network sh*t?
[08:29] <Ninja> Chousuke, how
[08:29] <PooPsTech> anyone installed the ubuntu on a powerPC?
[08:29] <XGas> I need network stuff......
[08:30] <Chousuke> Ninja: do you know which partitions they are?
[08:30] <FunnyLookinHat> !ppc
[08:30] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[08:30] <Chousuke> as in under /dev/ ?
[08:30] <AxY> sry how can i get a bin file run?
[08:30] <jiSh> vmware does network just fine
[08:30] <Ninja> Chousuke, its just a second HD
[08:30] <NthDegree> XGas it does more networking stuff than VMWare Workstation does
[08:30] <XGas> OK.
[08:30] <jiSh> in fact, i installed windows media center 2005 inside vmware
[08:30] <Chousuke> Ninja: hm
[08:30] <jiSh> and it can connect to my 360
[08:30] <IseeIsee> what is vmware ? if I've dual boot I can access ubuntu from inside windows and do stuff like java development on ubuntu ?
[08:30] <jiSh> and stream sstuff
[08:30] <XGas> Damn, almost buy it
[08:30] <XGas> Workstation
[08:30] <jiSh> no difficulties making it work either
[08:30] <Ninja> Chousuke, ok just tell me if what i said will work ???
[08:30] <Chousuke> Ninja: Well, if you think using th CD is easier, then go ahead and use it.
[08:30] <PooPsTech> PowerPC version of ubuntu fails boot on my machine
[08:30] <dadgumit> pharcvde: Linux Vader 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 7 20:10:15 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:30] <dadgumit> !pastebin
[08:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:31] <NthDegree> IseeIsee, you can use VMWare to run Ubuntu inside windows yes
[08:31] <Chousuke> Ninja: Ubuntu will be able to use the space.
[08:31] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: i did reformat with LVM. But what is LVM?
[08:31] <IseeIsee> dek_aik the sources.list is correct ?
[08:31] <XGas> SO I ask again, VMware Server can create VMs?
[08:31] <dek_aik> lseelsee: wartog is warty... so it should look like this "deb http://xxx.xxx.xxx/ubuntu dapper main"
[08:31] <Ninja> Chousuke, ok thanks
[08:31] <Chousuke> XGas: Yes.
[08:31] <jiSh> XGas: yes
[08:31] <XGas> cause I almost bought it.
[08:31] <FunnyLookinHat> !lvm
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about lvm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:31] <Ninja> Chousuke, be back if it dont work :/
[08:31] <jiSh> it's free
[08:31] <XGas> Well, thanks guys
[08:31] <dadgumit> can I pipe output of commands to my clipboard?
[08:31] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: And I think i got further this time.
[08:31] <jiSh> you don't have to buy it
[08:31] <jiSh> lol
[08:31] <Chousuke> Ninja: you may need to tell Ubuntu to make use of the space though.
[08:31] <NthDegree> XGas, I use it and it is free and can do almost everything Workstation can
[08:31] <FunnyLookinHat> Ackeubu_, LVM = a volume manager. I don't think you should use it unless you really want to
[08:31] <blanky> !flash
[08:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <dek_aik> lseelsee: please type one line of your sources
[08:31] <skavenge> anyone know how to change active window with mouse-over in kde?
[08:32] <dadgumit> pharcvde: it says that it has SMP enabled in the uname -a
[08:32] <XGas> Does it include the drivers too?
[08:32] <zammit> jamo, you here?
[08:32] <NthDegree> Yes
[08:32] <jiSh> XGas: it emulates hardware
[08:32] <pharcvde> dadgumit yes that is strange
[08:32] <XGas> ok, thanks,
[08:32] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: it didnt work when i didnt use it.. >P but if it works now... maybe i should try installing with 6.06 and LVM too...
[08:32] <XGas> I know its emulated hardware.
[08:32] <ddonky> anyone else haveing problems with Serpentine creating audio discs? I get this error ' cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!' in dmesg.
[08:32] <jiSh> XGas: anything that works in ubuntu can work in vmware as long as the guest OS supports it
[08:32] <FunnyLookinHat> Ackeubu_, it's worth a try.
[08:32] <IseeIsee> dek_aik #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _dapper Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] /u$
[08:32] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: aye
[08:32] <NthDegree> XGas if you want a good trick, install VMWare Server and VMWare Player then you get the abilities that Server has with the ability that Player has too
[08:32] <dadgumit> pharcvde: think it might help to completely remove linux-k7-smp and reenable it?
[08:33] <gemidjy> whoever's using Beagle, do I have to add 'user_xattr' in fstab for each FS i want to be indexed?
[08:33] <pharcvde> try usign a generic smp kernel
[08:33] <pharcvde> and see what happens
[08:33] <XGas> What the player does anyway? I used it, and it can only do images.
[08:33] <dadgumit> generic-smp-kernel?
[08:33] <pharcvde> basicalyl cat /proc/cpuinfo should show information per logical cpu installed
[08:33] <dadgumit> what does that mean?
[08:33] <jiSh> it just runs pre-made virtual machines
[08:33] <zammit> i'm attempting to install ubuntu 6.06 - the desktop install freezes at "mounting root file system", i'm fairly new to linux, anyone care to help?
[08:33] <NthDegree> XGas the player allows you to use VMs you have created or downloaded with a minimalist interface
[08:34] <XGas> ok, does the VMware Server too?
[08:34] <dek_aik> lseelsee: other line please which ends with main
[08:34] <NthDegree> it can run things you have made in VMWare Server and VMWare Workstation
[08:34] <XGas> can use VMs?
[08:34] <jiSh> VMWare server obth creates and runs VMS
[08:34] <jiSh> both**
[08:34] <XGas> Thnks, for the info
[08:34] <dadgumit> pharcvde: what would a generic kernel be?
[08:34] <emerald> I need someone who speaks german for a sec
[08:34] <IseeIsee> #deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[08:34] <NthDegree> XGas Server can create and run VMs, it has advanced networking and unlike Workstation is built to be able to run daemons inside it
[08:35] <eyequeue> !de
[08:35] <gemidjy> whoever's using Beagle, do I have to add 'user_xattr' in fstab for each FS i want to be indexed?
[08:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:35] <pharcvde> dadgumit what kind of processor do you have?
[08:35] <IseeIsee> btw I don't have a connection to the internet on the ubuntu machine
[08:35] <Ackeubu_> !se
[08:35] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[08:35] <taotime> anybody know here about installing from a ubuntu cdrom
[08:35] <Ackeubu_> !ca
[08:35] <ubotu> Canadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca
[08:35] <taotime> i meant usb ubuntu cdrom
[08:35] <ddonky> !nz
[08:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about nz - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:35] <dadgumit> pharcvde: amd64 3800+
[08:36] <NthDegree> XGas a word of caution, ubuntu by default has no firewall enabled AFAIK, so unless you enable it using bastille or something someone knowing your username and password could connect to your VMWare Server and control your VMs
[08:36] <pharcvde> dadgumit is that an x2?
[08:36] <pharcvde> or just a regular?
[08:36] <Ackeubu_> Uups darn it got stuck on installing base system 53%...
[08:36] <morrolan> has anyone ever used "filelight"?
[08:36] <dadgumit> pharcvde: x2
[08:36] <XGas2> WTF
[08:36] <XGas> hehhehheh
[08:36] <xolot1> i want to use ssh to start a folding@home session on a different computer without keeping the connection open the entire time folding is running, how might i do this?
[08:36] <morrolan> pharcvde, fancy seeing you here
[08:37] <pharcvde> morrolan :)
[08:37] <XGas> I dont care, I'm behind nat and router
[08:37] <dek_aik> lseelsee: you get that one right..the second line should look like this: deb http://xxx.xxx.xxx/ubuntu dapper main .....remove the "#"
[08:37] <XGas> then my router has nat
[08:37] <NthDegree> well bastille is a recommendation i give to anyone who wants to use ubuntu
[08:37] <morrolan> xolot1: check man ssh -there is a way to keep the processes running when an ssh session is terminated
[08:37] <IseeIsee> but I don't have an internet connection
[08:37] <xolot1> morrolan: thanks
[08:37] <XGas> where download linky for bastille?
[08:37] <zammit> hello, i'm attempting to install ubuntu on a clean system, the install freezes on "mounting root file system"; anyone care to help?
[08:37] <dadgumit> pharcvde: so on the "generic kernel" what does that mean?
[08:38] <ardchoille> !info bastille
[08:38] <ubotu> bastille: Security hardening tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1.1-12 (dapper), package size 358 kB, installed size 1508 kB
[08:38] <eyequeue> download?  apt-get it
[08:38] <NthDegree> XGas Bastille is in Universe Repository
[08:38] <pharcvde> dadgumit i meany try one of the i686 smp kernels
[08:38] <gemidjy> whoever's using Beagle, do I have to add 'user_xattr' in fstab for each FS i want to be indexed?
[08:38] <pharcvde> instead of the k7
[08:38] <XenonG> ok......
[08:38] <pharcvde> dadgumit i ahve an x2 as well
[08:38] <pharcvde> but i runt eh amd64bit kernel
[08:38] <morrolan> for anyone who struggles to see where all there HDD space is going "sudo apt-get install filelight" - lovely small GUI program which shows file size using concentric rings
[08:39] <dadgumit> pharcvde: have on installed now, I installed the k7 to see if it would work, cause th 686 wasn't working
[08:39] <ardchoille> morrolan: Thanks, that is good to know :)
[08:39] <morrolan> gemidjy - I have beagle running and I've never had to do that
[08:39] <dadgumit> pharcvde: do you run into many problems with compatibility?
[08:39] <NthDegree> bastille is something I recommend *EVERY* ubuntu user uses, because without iptables enable to fully block everything inbound a user could be at risk if he/she installs either WINE or VMWare Server
[08:39] <dadgumit> pharcvde: on the 64bit build?
[08:39] <pharcvde> not really
[08:39] <IseeIsee> it says "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/......................"
[08:39] <morrolan> gemidjy:  have you looked at the options of beagled? thats the daemon
[08:39] <pharcvde> most 32bit apps run fine in 64bit
[08:39] <DBO> morrolan, he left =P
[08:39] <Sputn1k> how to set default gnome terminal character encoding?
[08:40] <morrolan> oh well
[08:40] <NthDegree> but most apps are 64 bit that run on 64 bit
[08:40] <dadgumit> pharcvde: do you use ATI or nvdia, afraid I would have to jump through driver hoops again
[08:40] <NthDegree> very few need 32 bit
[08:40] <pharcvde> nvidia
[08:40] <morrolan> can someone please pastebin me a default dapper .bash_profile?  Mine seems to be missing...
[08:40] <pharcvde> ati is teh sux for linux unfortunately
[08:40] <dek_aik> lseelsee: you can only update your sources if you are connected to internet...
[08:40] <NthDegree> dadgumit, ATI is poorly supported anywhere you go :p
[08:40] <ardchoille> morrolan: YEs, hold on..
[08:40] <zool2005> evenin all
[08:40] <dadgumit> pharcvde: yeah, realized that after installing, was planning on nvidia last time anyways
[08:41] <morrolan> dek_aik - how do you think he's talking to you...
[08:41] <dadgumit> pharcvde: *next time
[08:41] <Viper550> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215970
[08:41] <NthDegree> good evening zool2005 :)
[08:41] <lens> what is the bash command that shows mac addy and IP and stuff, it's simple, I just forgot.
[08:41] <pharcvde> ati is pretty piss poor on the driver front
[08:41] <DBO> ifconfig lens
[08:41] <dadgumit> lens: ifconfig
[08:41] <IseeIsee> dek_aik but the problem was that Ubuntu failed to detect my ethernet card
[08:41] <bilss_> hi
[08:41] <lens> DBO, thanks you!
[08:41] <Sputn1k> nobody knows? :)
[08:41] <kirk_> please, I need help to install my video car GeForce FX5200 Winfast. Someone install it?
[08:41] <lens> dadgumit thanks too. :)
[08:41] <dek_aik> morrolan: ...
[08:42] <ardchoille> morrolan: This is the one that shipped with my Dapper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18101
[08:42] <skavenge> anyone know how to turn on switching active window with mouse-over in kde?
[08:42] <bilss_> have a exteral dvd /cd writer ubuntu will not detect it should i change something in BIOS
[08:42] <zool2005> i want to put a shutdown (poweroff) button on the desktop but how can i give it relevant priviledges?
[08:42] <eyequeue> morrolan,
[08:42] <eyequeue> morrolan, /etc/skel/.bash_profile
[08:42] <zammit> Hello, i'm beginning to lose faith in the linux world, i'm attempting to install ubuntu, but it is not cooperating, anyone care to help troubleshoot?
[08:42] <bilss_> DBO: which brand of coffee mountain-yellow?
[08:43] <DBO> bilss_, sounds fine
[08:43] <DBO> zammit, can you be more specific about what is going wrong?
[08:43] <IseeIsee> dek_aik what do you think if I put my network cable into the lan card & restart the machine Ubuntu should be able to pick up the internet ?
[08:43] <XenonG> zammit, work with VMware server 1st.
[08:43] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: what do i need to do in dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?#
[08:43] <zammit> xenong, vmware?
[08:43] <dek_aik> lseelsee: i think we can only try
[08:43] <XenonG> VMware Server, its FREE
[08:43] <ardchoille> zammit: Keep in mind that if one Linux distro doesn't meet your needs, a different distro might :)
[08:43] <dadgumit> pharcvde: do you need to do a whole new install for 64bit?
[08:43] <bilss_> DBO: its from north caroilna is that possible
[08:43] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, just select nvidia as your driver, the rest is defaults
[08:43] <XenonG> Virtual Machine
[08:44] <Raskall> about 3gp files (video files from my cell phone): I can play video, but all programs complains that audio-format "AMR" is unknown.
[08:44] <zammit> dbo, the desktop installation freezes at mounting root file system, that's all i get.
[08:44] <pharcvde> dadgumit i dont think so
[08:44] <IseeIsee> what if it does not ?
[08:44] <Raskall> How do I get AMR support in ubuntu?
[08:44] <eyequeue> XenonG, the source xode is available?
[08:44] <J-_> woo hoo think i converted the rpm to deb =D
[08:44] <XenonG> It may have a WEEEEEE bit performance lost, but hey, its damn nice.
[08:44] <pharcvde> but  u will ahve to install a lot of stuff to do 32->64
[08:44] <DBO> zammit, after the install or while booting the live CD?
[08:44] <pharcvde> i did a straight install
[08:44] <NthDegree> zammit, VMWare allows you to run Linux inside windows or Windows inside Linux
[08:44] <XenonG> Install while you surf the web.
[08:44] <XenonG> ROFL.
[08:44] <zammit> dbo, during the install
[08:44] <ardchoille> zammit: From what I have seen lately, the Desktop CD installer has some problems. Try to install using the Alternate CD, it is text-based and worked fine for me.
[08:45] <zammit> nthdegree, i would like to install ubuntu on a fresh system with no os
[08:45] <bilss_> have a exteral dvd /cd writer ubuntu will not detect it should i change something in BIOS
[08:45] <DBO> zammit, ok, get the alternative install CD, I will go get you a link
[08:45] <NthDegree> zammit, consider using the alternate install CD as the desktop CD installer is cr@p on a stick right now IMHO
[08:45] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: don't know the cards bus's identifier?
[08:45] <zammit> ardchoille, i've tried the alternate install as well
[08:45] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: just hit 'enter'?
[08:45] <XenonG> yeah, have to boot in to install
[08:45] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, just take default, keep hitting etner
[08:45] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, should work  : )
[08:45] <dek_aik> lseelsee: you really should the easy way out..order cd instead, but only install for server
[08:45] <XenonG> I rather have it directly in
[08:45] <haydre> I need help configuring a wireless card in my laptop, I try to activate it in the Networking window, but as soon as it's done, and I click ok, it deactivates it. What could cause this and how can I fix it?
[08:45] <NthDegree> hmmmm zammit, is your PC considered to be "Windows Vista Ready"
[08:46] <FunnyLookinHat> haydre, try using network-manager-gnome
[08:46] <zammit> to anyone, what are some hardware limitations? i'm attempting on an old machine
[08:46] <XenonG> Mine is.
[08:46] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: the amount of memory used by card?
[08:46] <XenonG> Mine is Vista ready
[08:46] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: can't believe i should just leave that blank?
[08:46] <IseeIsee> dek_aik as I told earlier I'm downloadin the latest Ubuntu, its 54% done, after that I'm gonna install Xubunto from it, I guess that would be ideal, but what if my network card is not detected even on the xubuntu ?
[08:46] <NthDegree> zammit, the hardware limitations are about equal to that of XP or Server 2003
[08:46] <zammit> nthdegree, no: p2 233mhz, 256mb ram, big enough harddrive
[08:46] <XenonG> oh noes.
[08:47] <J-_> how can i get root permissions to a file, or change the permissions rather?
[08:47] <XenonG> dude Pentium 2 233?
[08:47] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: should i put a value?
[08:47] <IseeIsee> J- write sudo
[08:47] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, it'll work either way
[08:47] <zool2005> /sbin/powerofff and /sbin/halt have read & exec privileges for user, group and others but I can't poweroff from the commandl line
[08:47] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, its up to you
[08:47] <DBO> J-_, sudo chown and sudo chmod are the commands you want
[08:47] <zammit> xenong: yea, the computer was manufactured in '97 =P
[08:47] <NthDegree> 233mhz is nowhere near any good for a modern system like ubuntu, you may want a system like Damn Small Linux or Vector Linux
[08:47] <ardchoille> zammit: I installed Ubuntu on a simialr system and it worked fine. The only thing is that gnome was a bit slow, I installed fluxbox and that took care of the slowness.
[08:47] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: well, the card has 128, should i put that in?
[08:47] <haydre> FunnyLookinHat: Do I simply need to install it, or do I need to do something special to run it?
[08:47] <dek_aik> lseelsee: what kind of card you have..around 90% are automatically detected, i guess
[08:47] <XenonG> Man, I had a P2 400MHz, an its SLOOOOOW even installing a console/server version of Ubuntu.
[08:47] <IseeIsee> 3Com
[08:48] <XenonG> infinite agorithems?
[08:48] <FunnyLookinHat> !network-manager
[08:48] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[08:48] <olrrai> hi executors
[08:48] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: use kerner buffer interface? geez
[08:48] <zammit> ardchoille, any tips? i'm really gettin frusterated, is there a way to show/log errors during install, possibly so i can google or relay them back?
[08:48] <dek_aik> lseelsee: considering that you laptop is wuiete old, its a good chance that it is ubuntu compliance
[08:48] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, no
[08:48] <fiveiron> anyone do video editing in here?
[08:48] <IseeIsee> ok
[08:49] <zool2005> can I poweroff from the command line without sudo?
[08:49] <IseeIsee> what is fluxbox ?
[08:49] <ardchoille> zammit: No tips, sorry. I used the Alternate CD and I had no problems.
[08:49] <XenonG> there are rumors that someone figure out how to make "infinite state machine" posible?
[08:49] <ardchoille> IseeIsee: fluxbox is a window manager
[08:49] <[DiffZ] > zool2005: sudo shutdown -h now ?
[08:49] <XenonG> ......
[08:49] <zammit> ardchoille, okay i'll try alternate cd again - blah this thing is drivin me nuts, the hardware works fine! thanks for giving me hope though!
[08:50] <IseeIsee> ardchoille: its targetted for low end PC's ?
[08:50] <ardchoille> IseeIsee: http://xwinman.org/  There are lots of good window managers. fluxbox and Window Maker are my favourites
[08:50] <zool2005> DiffZ, but that asks for the pwd surely?
[08:50] <ardchoille> zammit: You're welcome :)
[08:50] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: now its reboot
[08:50] <XenonG> RPG games dont stuck me as UT does, anyone play UT series?
[08:50] <zool2005> I want to use the command to make a poweroff button for the desktop
[08:50] <[DiffZ] > zool2005 yes
[08:50] <IseeIsee> I'll be installing xubunto, so xfce or something is similar to fluxbox in performance ?
[08:50] <J-_> so to use the sudo chown or sudo chmod, i have to cd to the directory, sudo chown or sudo chmod <filename>?
[08:50] <ardchoille> IseeIsee: fluxbox, openbox and Window Maker are all light window managers and can be used for old machines.
[08:50] <XenonG> UT is on of those rare box title games that can run cross platform......
[08:51] <IseeIsee> how can I install fluxbox in Ubuntu ?
[08:51] <XenonG> Love Epic Games Inc.
[08:51] <ardchoille> IseeIsee: fluxbox is in the repos
[08:51] <zool2005> IseeIsee, synaptic
[08:51] <ardchoille> !info fluxbox
[08:51] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[08:51] <IRCMonkeyx> hi to all, i installed wine to my system, and i installed acdsee software by using wine, but it is not at menus, and i dont know how to run it??
[08:51] <zammit> ardchoille, should i install in text or oem mode?
[08:51] <IseeIsee> so what should be the procedure
[08:51] <ddonky> I can mount audio CDs fine, but when I try to open them with Totem I get an error. 'error accessing 'cdda:///dev/hdc': Invalid URI'
[08:51] <IseeIsee> I install the full Ubuntu initially and then install the Window Manager ?
[08:51] <ardchoille> zammit: I did text mode
[08:52] <zammit> ardchoille, thnx
[08:52] <XenonG> OEM---> Original Equiment(did I spell it wrong?) Manufacturer
[08:52] <ardchoille> IseeIsee: That's what I did
[08:52] <skavenge> anyone know how to turn on switching active window with mouse-over in kde?
[08:52] <[Ex0r] > Equipment*
[08:52] <IseeIsee> but does not that means you wasted alot of hdd space on initially installing the full ubuntu window manager which is still there but you are not using it?
[08:52] <XenonG> Windows XP Pro Box Version 199 bucks, OEM 99bucks, almost half price.
[08:53] <Venky> my package manager says it has a "broken count error"
[08:53] <XenonG> Now that does not really apply to hardware
[08:53] <IRCMonkeyx> hi to all, i installed wine to my system, and i installed acdsee software by using wine, but it is not at menus, and i dont know how to run it??
[08:53] <buzzed_> any good screen sharing application...
[08:53] <Venky> what should i do
[08:53] <buzzed_> like gotomeeting
[08:53] <XenonG> more 2/3 of box price, newegg.com shippeds OEM stuff.
[08:53] <J-_> =\
[08:54] <xolot1> ircmonkey: find where acdsee.exe or w/e and run wine acdsee.exe?
[08:54] <roostishaw> where can i find the theme choke for fluxbox?
[08:54] <deimos_> IRCMonkeyx: wine acdsee.exe with path should work
[08:54] <lassegs> buzzed_: frostwire is limewire. sudo apt-get install frostwire
[08:54] <dek_aik> lseelsee: better choode a minimal install first (server), after install is finished sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <Venky> i haqve a broken packafe manager can anyone help me
[08:54] <ardchoille> IseeIsee: I have a 160Gb hd, using about 8 Gb of it, so it's not a problem for me.
[08:54] <haydre> FunnyLookinHat: I installed the network manager, and logged out and back in, but it only recognizes that there is a wired network, the wireless network is ignored. Do you have any other possible soloutions?
[08:55] <XenonG> lol, you have to pay for LimeWire.
[08:55] <lassegs> buzzed_: didnt see the comment about gnomemeeting
[08:55] <jenda> How can I link an empty directory to a 'full' one?
[08:55] <IRCMonkeyx> deimos_: i dont know the path?? i installed from my desktop
[08:55] <roostishaw> where can i find the theme choke for fluxbox?
[08:55] <IRCMonkeyx> deimos_: i am very new linux user, sorry
[08:55] <J-_> so to use the sudo chown or sudo chmod, i have to cd to the directory, sudo chown or sudo chmod <filename>?
[08:55] <FunnyLookinHat> hmm
[08:55] <xolot1> ircmockeyx: you could try sudo updatedb
[08:55] <FunnyLookinHat> !wireless
[08:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[08:55] <xolot1> then locate acdsee.exe
[08:55] <looksaus> any idea of a good free ERD (entity relationship diagram) tool ?
[08:55] <XenonG> I'm a really new Linux user too, just started 2 days ago.
[08:56] <FunnyLookinHat> haydre, try searching through those docs.  That's all i can really offer at this moment (sorry I am trying to get some other stuff done)  : (
[08:56] <J-_> !chown
[08:56] <XenonG> restart*
[08:56] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:56] <[Ex0r] > Anyone here familiar with postfix? I can't get it to deliver the incoming mail to the correct addresses
[08:56] <haydre> FunnyLookinHat: ok, thanks, I've looked thorough those already, but perhaps I've missed something. Thanks for your time.
[08:56] <buzzed_> more like something to share a screen...
[08:57] <IseeIsee> yeah so ardchoille what should be my approach, this approach of first fully installing ubuntu & then going for fluxbox, does suits to me, my machine is old, 10 GB total HDD
[08:57] <Venky> ubotu maybe u can help my package update manager is broken can u help me
[08:57] <XenonG> Anyone tried MineField(Mozilla FireFox 3.0 Alpha1
[08:57] <Marsmensch> !help static ip
[08:57] <tomcatt> !ubotu server
[08:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about help static ip - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerFaq/
[08:57] <kbrosnan> XenonG, it is pre alpha, and very unstable
[08:57] <IRCMonkeyx> xolot1: thanks ,let me try
[08:58] <xolot1> updatedb may take a few minutes
[08:58] <xolot1> just be warned
[08:58] <xolot1> and dont freak out
[08:58] <zammit> xenong: there was a digg on minefield a week ago, if you're interested in learning more
[08:58] <XenonG> Yeah, I ran it around for a few hour without crashing, a FEW hour, but it did crash.
[08:58] <kbrosnan> XenonG, last I looked there were serious grapics issues with it
[08:58] <IRCMonkeyx> xolot1: is it important where i gave the command?
[08:58] <XenonG> I installed it.
[08:59] <XenonG> MineField, in my backyard
[08:59] <IRCMonkeyx> i mean from desktop path or anyother path?
[08:59] <xolot1> no, just go to your terminal, type 'sudo updatedb'
[08:59] <XenonG> PC
[08:59] <IRCMonkeyx> ok thanx
[08:59] <xolot1> doesnt matter what directory
[08:59] <kbrosnan> XenonG, I use it regularly on windows, but on linux there is still a lot of work to be done
[09:00] <digital> I'm trying to setup software raid in Dapper. I've done it in CentOS and Fedora. Dapper doesn't want to to do it though. It can't get past partitioning the drive.
[09:00] <gmoore> if i have Ubuntu installed and working, and i'm going to put in a TVTuner card to use with mythtv, do i need to do anything once the OS loads to make it see the card?
[09:01] <frogzoo> gmoore: make sure the tv card is supported & then find an appropriate driver
[09:01] <frogzoo> !hardware
[09:01] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:01] <gmoore> apparently it uses bttv which should be compiled into the kernel by default
[09:02] <olrrai> whats recomended space for boot and root partitions?
[09:02] <paied> supported hardware >_<
[09:02] <paied> !kernel recompilation
[09:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernel recompilation - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:03] <ardchoille> olrrai: I've always done boot=200mb and /=remaining space.. but that is a personal preferrence thing I think
[09:04] <[Ex0r] > stupid wine
[09:04] <olrrai> but u say "/" contains var,usr,home,... ?
[09:05] <olrrai> and tmp
[09:05] <olrrai> what about fragmentation?
[09:05] <ardchoille> olrrai: yes, that's my wayof doing it
[09:05] <zammit> ardchoille, the alternative install keeps freezing after hardware detection =(
[09:05] <FlatusFluens> hi
[09:05] <ardchoille> olrrai: You don't need to worry about fragmentation in Linux
[09:06] <olrrai> what!!!!???
[09:06] <ardchoille> zammit: Got some funky hardware in that box?
[09:06] <CrippsFX> wow. having a slight problem here ... I followed the directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  for getting encrypted dvds to play in ubuntu, but, totem doesn't want to see that I have libdvdcss installed. are there any hacks for this?
[09:06] <FlatusFluens> kann mir hier jemand eine homepage sagen, auf der ich den treiber fr meine netzwerkkarte finden knnte? auf der herstellerseite gibt es keinen fr linux.
[09:06] <olrrai> can u explain me it?
[09:06] <bbrazil> !de
[09:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:06] <stephan21_> can someone help me : i started quake3 with the aoss wrapper and theirs sound but its real choppy and goes in and out
[09:06] <ddonky> I see a recomendation to install 'gstreamer-alsa' to fix my audio cd problem, is doing that going to mess up my system, and how do reverse it if it does?
[09:07] <ardchoille> olrrai: I have used Linux for years and have never seen it become fragmented to the point of worry
[09:07] <deep_> Hello there.
[09:07] <Ayabara> I have a wlan with wep encryption at home. now I'm at my parents house, and try to make a network profile for using their wlan. I create a new location in the network manager, but when I try to switch to the new location to configure it it hangs on a "changing location" message.
[09:07] <Venky> i have a broken count error in my package update manager can anyone tell me how to fix it
[09:07] <stephan21_> ardchoille, then maybe you can help me :)
[09:07] <zammit> ardchoille, not to my knowledge. the hardware seems to be okay, i've got another video card i could swap out, just bought 2x128mb@100mhz kingston ram, hdd is new; the computer worked fine when it had win98 on it
[09:07] <Ackeubu_> What is the device sr0?
[09:08] <stephan21_> can someone help me : i started quake3 with the aoss wrapper and theirs sound but its real choppy and goes in and out
[09:08] <ardchoille> zammit: try swapping out the vid card and see how the install goes
[09:08] <zammit> ardchoille, yea i'll give that a show
[09:08] <zammit> shot*
[09:09] <deep_> I'm getting kinda moody at my computer right now, since i cant do ANYTHING.. Can you please check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216375.
[09:09] <zeeeee> hi all, i installed win xp and ubuntu next to it, then reinstalled win xp again, so now i can't see the boot manager to access ubuntu. how do i restore the boot manager?
[09:09] <ardchoille> stephan21_: I'll try my best. What's up?
[09:09] <deep_> Noone seems to have a solution.
[09:09] <Flannel> zeeeee: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:09] <zeeeee> Flannel: thanks
[09:10] <stephan21_> ardchoille, well im trying to get quake3 and music to work....im using the aoss alsa wrapper but now the sound is really choppy
[09:10] <teknoprep> yoyo
[09:10] <Flannel> deep_: removing kubuntu-desktop won't delete everything, if that's what you're worried about
[09:10] <teknoprep> the idiots in kubuntu couldn't answer thi
[09:10] <ardchoille> stephan21_: Sorry, I don't use any sound :(
[09:10] <Ayabara> is there a way to make a new location in the network manager, and configure it _before_ ubuntu tries to use it?
[09:10] <teknoprep> wtf is up with easyubuntu not being able to get win32codecs
[09:10] <teknoprep> i believe the packages.freecontrib.org deb is down
[09:10] <stephan21_> ardchoille, oh ok
[09:10] <deep_> Flannel: What is deleted with that then?
[09:11] <Flannel> deep_: just the meta package
[09:11] <liran1> teknoprep: just get them manually from mplayer.hq
[09:11] <deep_> And i guess i can just install it later on?
[09:11] <ThunderStruck> teknoprep: first off join #easyubuntu for that answer second dont call people names third watch your langauge
[09:11] <bbrazil> teknoprep: Try #easyubuntu
[09:11] <deep_> Flannel: Sry. Forgot to write your name :P
[09:11] <Flannel> deep_: you don't need to reinstall it, but yeah.
[09:11] <teknoprep> hmm
[09:11] <teknoprep> s.a.d
[09:11] <ThunderStruck> !w32codecs
[09:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:11] <ardchoille> deep_: Are you using unstable debian repos in dapper?
[09:12] <ardchoille> teknoprep: Yes, I think PLF is down atm
[09:12] <ashzilla> Hi
[09:12] <teknoprep> TY
[09:12] <deep_> ardchoille: Hum. I dunno. My sources.list are posted at that link :O
[09:12] <ThunderStruck> it has been for a couple days
[09:12] <teknoprep> someone actually satified me
[09:12] <ashzilla> What is the easiest way to rip a CD to mp3?
[09:12] <ardchoille> deep_: I think you are using unstable debian repos.
[09:12] <ardchoille> ashzilla: I use grip for that and easytag to tag the files
[09:12] <deep_> ardchoille: Ill comment out everything i have put there myself. :P
[09:13] <Ayabara> anyone? is there a text file where I can edit the different network profiles/locations?
[09:13] <IseeIsee> dek_aik left ?
[09:13] <frogzoo> deep_: you shouldn't be using ANY debian repos, never mind unstable ones
[09:13] <Flannel> deep_: Yeah, you're using debian unstable, that's bad ;)
[09:13] <Venky> can someone helpme to fix my broken package maager...
[09:13] <ardchoille> frogzoo: Thank you
[09:13] <Venky> i dont know how to remove my broken samba package
[09:13] <`daffodil> does anyone know how you might enable remote desktop within xubuntu?
[09:13] <IseeIsee> so I did a sudo apt-get update on shell but Ubuntu fails to fetch it from the internet, I'm getting ethernet from a windows machine, what should I do ?
[09:14] <Flannel> ashzilla: there are programs, Grip is one, to rip it to mp3 you need the codecs, but even without that, you can rip to ogg
[09:14] <deep_> frogzoo: And how should i install stuff then? :P
[09:14] <Flannel> frogzoo: the ubuntu repositories
[09:14] <Flannel> er, deep_
[09:14] <ardchoille> ashzilla: If you use grip, you'll need lame to rip to mp3
[09:14] <ardchoille> Flannel: Thank you fro reminding me about that :)
[09:15] <stephan21_> can someone help me : i started quake3 with the aoss wrapper and theirs sound but its real choppy and goes in and out
[09:15] <deep_> Oooohw, Sorry. My bad, my bad. Just confused debian and ubuntu together. :P
[09:15] <andy-> Has anyone installed Quake 2 using Loki installer?
[09:15] <IseeIsee> I can't see FAT32 code in cfdisk ?
[09:15] <frogzoo> deep_: only use ubuntu repos if you're running ubuntu
[09:16] <morrolan> ardchoille:  restoring the default .bash_profile and .bashrc solved my colour problem :)
[09:16] <olrrai> ardchoille: how many years u use linux, and u do music edition, a lot of install and uninstall packets, record cdrom or dvd....?
[09:16] <deep_> frogzoo: Actually, im on kubuntu. :)
[09:16] <ardchoille> morrolan: I thought it would. Glad it's working now :)
[09:16] <olrrai> no fragment?
[09:16] <Flannel> deep_: same thing.  kubuntu is a flavor of ubuntu
[09:16] <deep_> Flannel: I know, i know. :D
[09:16] <frogzoo> deep_: kubuntu is compatible with ubuntu - debian isn't & things will get ugly
[09:17] <ardchoille> olrrai: I build computers and donate them. I have used Linux for 5+ years and installed it on 117 boxes for friends and family.
[09:17] <ardchoille> olrrai: Ubuntu is the best distro on the planet, IMHO :)
[09:18] <olrrai> ardchoille: the speed still fast as installation days?
[09:18] <frogzoo> deep_: any unexplained crashes from here, & I'd say reinstall might be your best bet
[09:18] <deep_> Okay, one more thing. In sources.list, i have two security.ubuntu.com repos. Just that one has "main restrided" after, and the other "universe multiverse". Can i put that together?
[09:18] <IseeIsee> what can be done if Ubuntu is not detecting ethernet card ?
[09:18] <ardchoille> olrrai: yes
[09:18] <olrrai> I cant believe it
[09:18] <deep_> frogzoo: Yeah. And stop installing stuff i dont need (witch ive done alot. :) )
[09:18] <fl> hi
[09:19] <zammit> ardchoille, the video card sawp didn't do any good, any more ideas? i could upgrade to a 333mhz processor like 7 bucks - but that'll take a week =( anything as far as installation parameters or something? logging?
[09:19] <fl> could anyone here tell me a page to download a linux-driver for my network-card?
[09:19] <stephan21_> can someone tell me y this command suer permission denied :  > echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct">/proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[09:19] <IseeIsee> f1 i'm stuck in the same problem
[09:19] <frogzoo> IseeIsee: you need to find a driver somehow
[09:19] <olrrai> ardchoille: linux has an autodefrag system or what?
[09:19] <IseeIsee> how ? :)
[09:19] <Flannel> deep_: yes, but you don't lose anything by having them on two lines
[09:20] <ardchoille> olrrai: Linux takes care of "housekeeping" for you ;)
[09:20] <frogzoo> IseeIsee: if ubuntu won't supply a driver, google 'linux driver' + make/model - download & compile
[09:20] <deep_> Flannel: No, but its complaining about it, it sais "DUPLICATE OF..." blahblah. And its just getting a little annoying. :)
[09:20] <ardchoille> zammit: I haven't ever had a problem installing Ubuntu, so I don't know what troubleshooting tricks are out there.
[09:20] <IseeIsee> frogzoo: I don't have the full ubuntu desktop yet, I'm on shell
[09:20] <Flannel> deep_: that's something else then.
[09:20] <ardchoille> zammit: I guess I have just been lucky
[09:21] <frogzoo> IseeIsee: lynx
[09:21] <IseeIsee> lynx ?
[09:21] <deep_> No, "dapper-security" is on both lines. Thats that. : P
[09:21] <ardchoille> !info lynx
[09:21] <ubotu> lynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.5-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1074 kB, installed size 4552 kB
[09:21] <frogzoo> IseeIsee: term based web browser
[09:21] <ardchoille> !info elinks
[09:21] <ubotu> elinks: advanced text-mode WWW browser. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.10.6-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 825 kB, installed size 3292 kB
[09:21] <zammit> ardchoille, i wish i was just as lucky. i'll attempt to install vector linux i suppose, before i throw the pc out the window
[09:22] <IseeIsee> frogzoo: what should I do with lynx ?
[09:22] <ardchoille> IseeIsee: I rarely ever use X. I normally log into a tty and use irssi (IRC), elinks (web browser) and mutt (email) without having a desktop
[09:22] <IseeIsee> can one do java development on vector linux ?
[09:22] <deep_> ubotu: lynx. (L)
[09:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about lynx. (L) - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:22] <deep_> <3
[09:22] <Asymmetry> I need some help. I'm trying to fix a farked up installation, but /dev only has null in it. What should I do/
[09:22] <zammit> it just sucks, all the components are good, just not very "modern" - i'd hate to say "no" to hardware, even if it is old
[09:22] <ardchoille> zammit: Oh, don't throw it away.. there is a Linux distro for you out there somewhere. Try searching at http://distrowatch.com
[09:23] <IseeIsee> ardchoille: you do all this on 1 shell window ?
[09:23] <zammit> ardchoille, thanks for the link =)
[09:23] <ardchoille> IseeIsee: yes
[09:23] <ardchoille> zammit: You're welcome :)
[09:24] <jpjacobs> zammit, have a look at http://featherlinux.berlios.de
[09:24] <olrrai> i am using ubuntu for abut 2 weeks with a winXP virtual machi installed, and I am very surprised with ubuntu and I decide to use ubuntu as main box, but I am thinkig to reinstall it with a good mount partition
[09:25] <teknoprep> !transparencies
[09:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about transparencies - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:25] <olrrai> ardchoille: but u say I need to mount all in /
[09:25] <zammit> jpjacobs, this sound good; thanks for the link
[09:25] <teknoprep> !transparency
[09:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:25] <teknoprep> ok
[09:25] <teknoprep> now with KDE is it better to use XGL+compiz org the KDE trans that is built in
[09:26] <ardchoille> olrrai: Having a /boot and a / partitions is only *one* way of doing it.
[09:26] <Ayabara> can anyone help me with my network manager problems?
[09:26] <jpjacobs> zammit, np
[09:26] <Flannel> teknoprep: built in, XGL isn't supported yet, not until edgy
[09:26] <teknoprep> ahh
[09:26] <teknoprep> is XGL going to be nice?
[09:26] <ardchoille> Flannel: Hopefully, Edgy will have an option to turn XGL and the like off
[09:26] <fl> i can only find windows versions of the driver. isn't there a page that has a list of linux drivers?
[09:26] <[GuS] > Hi people! i have one problem if i may ask... there is a problem with Booting Kubuntu with the ASUS K8N4-E MB ?
[09:26] <[GuS] > i can't boot the system
[09:26] <teknoprep> hmmm
[09:27] <Flannel> ardchoille: of course it will.  I don't believe it'll be enabled  by default to begin with
[09:27] <teknoprep> boot from what medium GuS ?
[09:27] <ardchoille> Flannel: :)
[09:27] <mrclean> I am getting an error running modprobe against ndiswrapper
[09:27] <mrclean> and searching for info about the eror, I find "using GCC 3.4 and the kernel was built using GCC 3.3" and wondering how I can find out what compiler my kernel was built on.
[09:27] <[GuS] > from HD and from install CD
[09:27] <[GuS] > some PCI: errors and hangs there
[09:27] <pozdiy> what is the best viewer for emf files?
[09:27] <teknoprep> [GuS] : where you able to boot up from the CD or not?
[09:27] <bbrazil> mrclean: cat /proc/version
[09:27] <[GuS] > Nop... just boot and hangs.
[09:28] <teknoprep> [GuS] : sounds like a pebkac.. but try turning off ACPI when you boot
[09:28] <[GuS] > Ok
[09:28] <[GuS] > let me check
[09:28] <teknoprep> [GuS] : i think there is an option when you boot up off cd
[09:28] <teknoprep> [GuS] : or apic ..i forget what it is.. i think its acpi tho
[09:28] <mrclean> getting error:  Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[09:28] <teknoprep> mrclean: what card do you have that you need ndiswrapper for?
[09:28] <sg1R> !kde
[09:28] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[09:29] <zukalk> Gaim 2 Beta's ./configure script requires XML::Parser perl module, but sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Parser' returns an error
[09:29] <mrclean> Linux version 2.6.15-26-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3
[09:29] <[GuS] > it works!
[09:29] <[GuS] > thans teknoprep
[09:29] <mrclean> so, I need to compare that against ______?
[09:29] <ardchoille> !apic
[09:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about apic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:29] <VelcroSHOOZE> is there a terminal encoding that shows EVERY character?
[09:29] <teknoprep> !acpi
[09:29] <[GuS] > i tought was that... just want to be sure
[09:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about acpi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:29] <Flannel> VelcroSHOOZE: utf-8
[09:30] <[GuS] > is a problem with that mobo?
[09:30] <penguin42> What during install decides what modules to put in the generated initrd?  I've got a case where it didn't and wanted to look at the code (on a side note, are there any tools for manipulating an ubuntu created initrd - e.g. adding modules etc; hell I hate cpio....)
[09:30] <IseeIsee> frogzoo, no luck, no driver available for Ubuntu
[09:30] <VelcroSHOOZE> flannel; not in a terminal window it doesnt
[09:30] <Flannel> VelcroSHOOZE: it should.  If not, it's the terminal window font not having the glyphs
[09:30] <papo> hi
[09:30] <mrclean> gcc --version reports gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[09:30] <mrclean> So, I need to look for another problem?
[09:31] <Venky> can someone help me how to xorrect the broken count error in my package manager...i have a broken samba installation..how shud i wipe it clean...
[09:31] <ardchoille> teknoprep: I think it's apic=off that you want. I think apci is for battery stuff
[09:31] <VelcroSHOOZE> flannel; hm okay thats something to go on
[09:31] <teknoprep> yeah its apic then
[09:31] <penguin42> Venky: what happens if you just uninstall the package?
[09:31] <teknoprep> i don't want it
[09:31] <papo> is there a way to install dapper step by step? I installed it on a hp pavilion dv1400 and if hung up, probably during the detection of the graphics card. I want to skip that part.
[09:31] <erUSUL> Venky: 'sudo apt-get -f upgrade' could help
[09:31] <papo> I am using the alt. installer
[09:31] <teknoprep> i have proper apic working mobo and chipset and all that
[09:31] <mrclean>  teknoprep: I have linksys w/broadcom chip
[09:31] <Flannel> VelcroSHOOZE: you might need to make sure irssi (or bitchX) is set to UTF, as well, and screen if youre using it, etc.
[09:31] <olrrai> ardchoille: what about if I need to move i.e /sda6 (with /) to /sda6, need change fstab and the kernel parameters only?
[09:32] <olrrai> ardchoille: what about if I need to move i.e /sda6 (with /) to /sda5, need change fstab and the kernel parameters only?
[09:32] <teknoprep> mrclean: do this... lspci .. then past results on rafb.net/paste
[09:32] <blanky> Hey guys what's the program in GNOME that lets me right click on a folder and add it to an archive like a tar.gz
[09:32] <Ayabara> last try: does anyone know how I can make a network location and configure it _before_ trying to switch to it?
[09:32] <blanky> is it fireroller or whatever?
[09:32] <VelcroSHOOZE> Flannel; exactly what i was working on heh, do you know how i 'set' the client to UTF?
[09:32] <blanky> fileroller?
[09:32] <Flannel> VelcroSHOOZE: which client?
[09:33] <VelcroSHOOZE> Flannel; epic atm but i could use irsii or bx or anything if it will work right heh
[09:33] <ardchoille> olrrai: I don't know, I don't use external or USB drives
[09:33] <VelcroSHOOZE> just like the cli
[09:33] <blanky> Anyone?
[09:34] <ardchoille> blanky: file-roller
[09:34] <IseeIsee> i'm looking for 3Com 3CXFE575BT Lan linux driver
[09:34] <Flannel> epic?  no idea, in irssi its term_charset
[09:34] <blanky> ardchoille, thanks
[09:34] <Flannel> VelcroSHOOZE: you'll need to check the epic documentation, and with screen, start it with a -U flag
[09:34] <Ackeubu_> FunnyLookinHat: hehehe, I changed positions of the ram memory, formated the drive to fat fat ext32 and swap and now my lappy work.. >D
[09:34] <VelcroSHOOZE> okay
[09:34] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Is the standard install not spotting it? What speed/bus is it?
[09:34] <mrclean>  teknoprep: done:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/DPeYKj63.html
[09:34] <teknoprep> mrclean: you do that?
[09:34] <IseeIsee> 10/100
[09:35] <teknoprep> mrclean: did you do... sudo apt-get install ndiswrappter
[09:35] <teknoprep> mrclean: did you do... sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[09:36] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i get a copy of the menu file used in nubuntu? or could someone send it to me?
[09:36] <teknoprep> hold up
[09:36] <dr_willis> roostishaw,  what menu file?
[09:36] <ardchoille> roostishaw: nubuntu?
[09:36] <Stormx2> and what is nubuntu?
[09:36] <IseeIsee> i'm a new user to linux and I heard people talking about poor software installation & driver support in the linux world, so here I am experiencing it :) don't know why are open-source operating system still famous
[09:36] <Stormx2> !nubuntu
[09:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about nubuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:36] <ardchoille> !nubuntu
[09:37] <Jimmey> I've plugged my brother's mobile phone into my USB port, and lsusb outputs: "Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0fce:d017 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB K608i Ph on" - Any idea how I can mount it?
[09:37] <olrrai> anyone use partimage or somesing to do bkps?
[09:37] <mrclean>  teknoprep: may have missed some of it:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/EY89kV23.html
[09:37] <Ayabara> anyone using another network manager than the default one in ubuntu?
[09:37] <ardchoille> olrrai: I use partimage.
[09:37] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Is the standard install not spotting it? What speed/bus is it?
[09:37] <teknoprep> 0000:00:0b.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4303 802.11b Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[09:37] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  may not even be doable - USB is just reporting what it sees.. dont mean theres drivers for it.
[09:37] <teknoprep> is what i wanted to see
[09:37] <hangfire> Iseelsee- I dont know how you can say linux has poor driver support when I can install ubuntu and have everything run automatically without ever instaling one driver myself
[09:37] <IseeIsee> penguin42 10/100
[09:37] <mrclean> No, did not do udo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[09:37] <penguin42> IseeIsee: PCI?
[09:38] <mrclean> I downloaded and used make and make install
[09:38] <teknoprep> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[09:38] <teknoprep> mrclean: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[09:38] <IseeIsee> penguin42 you can do a google on it to get the details model 3cxfe575bt 3com
[09:38] <Jimmey> dr_willis, I'll just Google it
[09:38] <Jimmey> ;)
[09:38] <dr_willis> Driver support for windows is lacking at times.. and samw with Linux.. but ive had more hassle finding drivers for windows - that i KNOW exist. :P due to Windows -being dumb at times.
[09:38] <mrclean>  teknoprep: just on top of what I have now?
[09:38] <ardchoille> olrrai: You can get partimage on the System Rescue CD: http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[09:38] <dr_willis> Jimmey,  always a good answer - i just use bluetooth for my phones/files
[09:39] <teknoprep> sudo modprobe -l | grep ndiswrapper
[09:39] <teknoprep> should show
[09:39] <stinkball> can someone tell me how to tell if i'm running xgl?
[09:39] <teknoprep> /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[09:39] <Thewyzewun> Excellent, I was expecting this to be pretty empty! I'm trying to get Rhythmbox to play MP3s on a clean install on Dapper
[09:39] <mrclean>  teknoprep:  actually, I tried to apt-get ndisrwapper first, but did not go, I just figured it wasn't in the repositories
[09:39] <IseeIsee> so penguin42 ?
[09:39] <teknoprep> mrclean: nono i forgot its a module compiled form the kernel
[09:40] <Thewyzewun> I've installed the gstreamer0.8-mad, but it still isn't recognizing any MP3s
[09:40] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Hang on a sec - I'm looking - my braind oesn't have a database of all obscure cardbus ether cards - I'm doing your googling for you
[09:40] <penguin42> IseeIsee: What laptop is it in?
[09:40] <bilss_> hi
[09:40] <stinkball> can someone tell me how to tell if i'm running xgl?
[09:40] <IseeIsee> ibm thinkpad 380z
[09:40] <mikeymike-linux> does anyone know of any programs to calibrate your LCD brightness and color swatches and the sort for gnome?
[09:40] <ardchoille> Gotta run, bbiab
[09:41] <teknoprep> hey
[09:41] <mikeymike-linux> i have an HP LP2065
[09:41] <IseeIsee> btw how do you know when Ubuntu has picked up say an Ethernet card ?
[09:41] <roostishaw> dr_willis, the file that determines what appears when i right click
[09:41] <olrrai> ardchoille: u try to restore a partitition with partimge bigger than origilal partition, it works?
[09:41] <mrclean>  teknoprep:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/13LKWv74.html
[09:41] <dabaR> Hi. My nephew plays a flash game that used to run sound, and no it no longer plays sound. I tried checking the alsamixer, and muting/unmuting several things, to no avail. I also looked at what packages are installed relating to mozilla firefox, but nothing seems familiar. I tried in firefox and epiphany. Clues?
[09:41] <penguin42> IseeIsee: You should find the 3c59x.ko driver works for it, however there is a bug on some thinkpads (390E - see http://loke.as.arizona.edu/~ckulesa/tp390e/pcmcia.html)
[09:41] <stinkball> can anyone tell me how to tell if i'm running xgl?
[09:41] <malmen> my alt + 2 supostly should be AT
[09:41] <malmen> how can i fix it ?
[09:41] <teknoprep> mrclean: ok
[09:42] <bilss_> DBO: can you please look at this thread to see if my external dvd/cd has been detected http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216466
[09:42] <teknoprep> mrclean: do you have your driver?
[09:42] <Ackeubu_> my gonme panels are so ugly. are there any alternative panels to install?
[09:42] <penguin42> IseeIsee: do an ifconfig eth0    if it shows you the card details it has already picked it up - if its working properly you shouldn't need to do anything
[09:42] <teknoprep> mrclean: your windows .sys driver for your card?
[09:42] <Thewyzewun> Hi, I can see there's a lot of questions being asked already, looks a bit confusing actually hehe... I'm trying to get Rhythmbox to play MP3s on a clean install on Dapper, I've installed the gstreamer0.8-mad, but it still isn't recognizing any MP3s (only OGG files)
[09:42] <[GuS] > teknoprep, the system boot with acpi=off, but the PS/2 mouse do  not work now :S
[09:42] <bbrazil> !restricted > Thewyzewun
[09:42] <mrclean>  teknoprep: Should I do  sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils ?
[09:42] <dabaR> !mp3
[09:42] <DBO> billytwowilly, it looks like it found it
[09:42] <Laney> np:
[09:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:42] <DBO> bilss_,
[09:42] <bbrazil> Thewyzewun: check what ubotu just sent you
[09:43] <olrrai> anyone try to restore a partitition with partimge bigger than origilal partition, it works?
[09:43] <Thewyzewun> Thanks :)
[09:43] <DBO> argh...  bilss_ it looks like it found it
[09:43] <bbrazil> Thewyzewun: follow that, restart rhythmbox
[09:43] <mrclean> Yes, I have the correct driver on disk
[09:43] <Thewyzewun> Thanks very much :D
[09:43] <penguin42> olrrai: It should work but not use the extra space
[09:43] <bbrazil> olrrai: extra space is no problem - you just waste space
[09:43] <stinkball> can someone tell me how to correctly install ATI drivers?
[09:43] <mrclean>  teknoprep>  it's on the CD that came with the card
[09:43] <IseeIsee> I did an "expert" install & on first book I saw the shell, if I want to do full Ubuntu install what should I do from here ?
[09:43] <teknoprep> mrclean: hold up
[09:44] <teknoprep> mrclean: then copy it to a location you can read
[09:44] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Don't use an expert install unless you are an expert
[09:44] <bilss_> DBO: ok thanks on the cd that comes with  externel dvd/cd writer how to install the drivers from the cd whats the command please
[09:44] <teknoprep> mrclean: like your home directory
[09:44] <pbuchan> hey guys is there anyway to revert back on updates?
[09:44] <ThunderStruck> IseeIsee: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:44] <mrclean>  teknoprep>  I copied it to a dir and did chmod 2777 /usr/share/drivers
[09:44] <DBO> bilss_, you dont need to install the drivers that came with it, it should work
[09:44] <dabaR> pbuchan: of packages?
[09:45] <teknoprep> ok try this
[09:45] <pbuchan> i installed the latest x.org updates and now whenever i open world of warcraft my x crashes
[09:45] <Meatwad> my wireless connection suddenly stopped working after coming out of hibernation  :(
[09:45] <pozdiy> what is the viewer for emf files?
[09:45] <dabaR> ubotu: tell pbuchan about pinning
[09:45] <teknoprep> mrclean: sudo ndiswrapper -i mrv8ka51.inf
[09:45] <penguin42> pozdiy: You might be able to do that with openoffice
[09:45] <pbuchan> pinning?
[09:45] <IseeIsee> penguin42: I was just trying to experiment/learn, anywayz so can I do from here or should I start all over again ?
[09:45] <pozdiy> penguin42, tnx
[09:45] <teknoprep> mrclean: change the mrv8ka51.inf to your .inf file
[09:45] <olrrai> bbrazil: but if is an undefined fs, the restoration works (partimage)?
[09:46] <bilss_> DBO: ok  i though it said in the instructions to install the cd to install the drivers maybe thats just for a windows machine
[09:46] <SabineCretella> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu - and I have a problem with the keyboard - is there anyone who can help with accents + char on the German keyboard?
[09:46] <roostishaw> dr_willis, do you know what i mean?
[09:46] <DBO> bilss_, thats just for windows
[09:46] <pbuchan> dabaR: what is pinning?
[09:46] <bbrazil> olrrai: what do you mean by undefined?
[09:46] <mrclean>  teknoprep:  couldn't copy mrv8ka51.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 144.
[09:46] <Ng> SabineCretella: if nobody here replies, you might want to try #ubuntu-de for german speakers
[09:46] <Ng> SabineCretella: one would assume they have done such things ;)
[09:46] <SabineCretella> thank you Ng
[09:47] <penguin42> IseeIsee: As ThunderStruck said, installing ubuntu-desktop should get you a long way - and you can install whatever you need with apt-get
[09:47] <SabineCretella> going there Ng
[09:47] <sean13> can someone help me with my strange problem
[09:47] <sean13> I restarted my computer and then the xserver broke
[09:47] <dabaR> pbuchan: they changed the ubotu commands since I was last here, so you will wait for a sec, or simply, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[09:47] <teknoprep> mrclean: sudo ndiswrapper -i /usr/share/my.file.inf
[09:47] <mrclean>  teknoprep where is mrv8ka51.inf ?
[09:47] <bilss_> DBO: at the moment in my labtop the BIOS says boot from cd so if i put an linux os in there it should boot
[09:47] <teknoprep> mrclean: its your .inf file
[09:47] <sean13> then I restarted it again and now it just says segmentation fault hda1 doesn't exist
[09:47] <teknoprep> mrclean: not the fucking mrv8ka51.inf
[09:47] <teknoprep> mrclean: find your inf file
[09:47] <IseeIsee> penguin42: did you notice that my ethernet card is listed as exception ? how can I solve it, I don't know how to change power management bios
[09:48] <bbrazil> teknoprep: watch your language please
[09:48] <mrclean>  teknoprep: ok, yes I did all that.
[09:48] <teknoprep> bbrazil: its english
[09:48] <DBO> bilss_, you bios would have to support booting form an external CD, it probably does not
[09:48] <Ackeubu_> Uuups 130 updates for dapper...
[09:48] <aldudturn> Does anyone know if it is possible to fit a PC Card, in a desktop PC rather than a laptop without an adapter? I have no other ethernet card available to connect to the internet :-(
[09:48] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Does an ifconfig eth0 show anything - Ubuntu should pick it up by default
[09:48] <teknoprep> bbrazil: a little acid i could probably watch more then just my language
[09:48] <penguin42> aldudturn: It has the wrong connector, you need an adapter
[09:49] <bilss_> DBO: so how to install a debian os from the external cd/dvd writer?
[09:49] <teknoprep> bbrazil: lol you guys are complete morons... watch your language... there are so many things wrong with that statement.. and also the idea that ther are bad words.. omfg... yeah
[09:49] <Snake> whats thatcommand to let you tweak gnome settings? conf-gnome or something like that..
[09:49] <IseeIsee> penguin42: it says command not found
[09:49] <teknoprep> bbrazil: keep believing that
[09:49] <aldudturn> penguin42: there is no way whatsoever?
[09:49] <penguin42> IseeIsee: /sbin/ifconfig
[09:49] <LjL> !tell teknoprep about behavior
[09:49] <DBO> bilss_, you dont have an internal drive!?
[09:49] <dabaR> aldudturn: your question sucks for readability. Are you aasking whether you can plug in your pc eth card into your l;aptop?
[09:49] <penguin42> aldudturn: It physically won't fit
[09:49] <IseeIsee> penguin42: again command not found
[09:49] <pbuchan> dabaR: how do i know which version to downgrade to?
[09:49] <bilss_> DBO: yes its not working thats why i have an external one
[09:49] <pbuchan> all i want to do is revert back from the last update this sucks
[09:50] <serge> teknoprep, note he's actauly noticing you.
[09:50] <pbuchan> i just want to play my game
[09:50] <teknoprep> serge: whom?
[09:50] <dabaR> pbuchan: that you look up somewhere, the version before the latest update, I suppose.
[09:50] <LjL> teknoprep: that kind of topic should be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:50] <Snake> .... Someone?
[09:50] <dabaR> pbuchan: not very simple./
[09:50] <penguin42> IseeIsee: If your install is missing even /sbin/ifconfig then I think it is probably best to start your install again - try the expert stuff after you've got a working one using the normal route
[09:50] <aldudturn> thanks penguin, and dabar, sorry. I was asking whether it was possible to fit a PC card into a desktop computer, rather than the laptop which it is designed for.
[09:50] <teknoprep> LjL: i didn't bring this topic up
[09:50] <DBO> bilss_, you will have to check with your motherboard documentation to figure out if it can boot from an external CD-ROM or not
[09:50] <serge> teknoprep, bbrazill.
[09:50] <teknoprep> LjL: i am helping ppl.. leave me alone lol.. omfg
[09:50] <dabaR> aldudturn: what connections does it have?
[09:51] <ThunderStruck> teknoprep: watch your language
[09:51] <IseeIsee> penguin42 what should I install the full Ubuntu with normal boot, that takes too long, it install so many packages
[09:51] <nasty_b> Hey guys I just installed MySQL-server and MySQL-client through Synaptic. It says everything has been installed. Now I'm wondering how to make sure it's been installed, and how to configure everything. Also, I'm wondering how to locate the client so I can start using it.
[09:51] <LjL> teknoprep: and you're swearing again, even if by acronym. please just stop
[09:51] <LjL> teknoprep: and read the guidelines
[09:51] <dr_willis> aldudturn,  you mean a Laptop - 'pcmcia' card ?
[09:51] <Meatwad> is there a way to release & renew IP? (like ipconfig /release etc.)  and flush dns?
[09:51] <serge> teknoprep, feel free to help people, but also follow the rules of this channel, a little etiquette goes a long way.
[09:51] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Because you don't know which ones you need yet
[09:51] <aldudturn> dabaR: don't worry, I'm pretty sure it won't fit
[09:51] <IseeIsee> right
[09:51] <aldudturn> thanks for the help
[09:51] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Try a normal install - once you get used to which packages do what then you can do a small install
[09:51] <mrclean>  teknoprep New paste:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/XeOpZv73.html
[09:51] <teknoprep> serge: Ljl: ThunderStruck are you guys crazy?
[09:52] <IseeIsee> I have a live CD as well
[09:52] <olrrai> how to skip the free space with partimage?
[09:52] <teknoprep> mrclean: you guys are all republicans eh?
[09:52] <dabaR> move over it
[09:52] <bbrazil> nasty_b: the client can be accessed by 'mysql' username is root, password is blank
[09:52] <IseeIsee> I can try that to check whether it picks the driver or not ?
[09:52] <paied> lol
[09:52] <serge> teknoprep, I don't believe so, no.
[09:52] <Snake> Anybody: What is the command to edit most of gnomes settings?? Conf-gnome is the closest I could remember.
[09:52] <LjL> teknoprep: no, i'm just telling you to *please* stick to the official guidelines of this channel, and to discuss offtopic topics in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:52] <IseeIsee> penguin42 btw my ubuntu is 4.01
[09:52] <Snake> Its sometihng like that though
[09:52] <ThunderStruck> teknoprep: i said watch your langauge i will not warn you again ive already warned you a few times in last hour
[09:52] <olrrai> how to skip the free space with partimage making an image?
[09:52] <pbuchan> where do i get a list of ubuntu's errata?
[09:52] <stinkball> can someone help me install ATI drivers properly?
[09:52] <bilss_> DBO: ok the settins in BIOS are cd -drive,floppy network boot, and harddrive
[09:52] <ThunderStruck> !coc > teknoprep
[09:52] <dabaR> !bug
[09:52] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:52] <ThunderStruck> !guidelines > teknoprep
[09:52] <Snake> ThunderStruck: the CoC Mentions nothing about swearing however, (not being smart, just telling you)
[09:53] <ThunderStruck> teknoprep: read and follow them
[09:53] <nasty_b> bbrazil: I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I'm using desktop version...
[09:53] <DBO> bilss_, just try it I guess
[09:53] <paied> wut the
[09:53] <teknoprep> ThunderStruck: i prefer not to
[09:53] <paied> !coc > paied
[09:53] <ThunderStruck> Snake: read teh guidelines
[09:53] <bilss_> DBO: ok
[09:53] <LjL> Snake: the guidelines do, though
[09:53] <bbrazil> nasty_b: open a terminal, you can use the baisc client from there
[09:53] <Snake> ThunderStruck: havnt see guidlines :)
[09:53] <Snake> rb
[09:53] <ThunderStruck> Snake: read them they are good
[09:53] <bbrazil> nasty_b: you might also want to check out phpmyadmin for a web interface
[09:53] <serge> !guidelines > serge
[09:54] <paied> !guidelines > paied
[09:54] <bbrazil> !msgthebot
[09:54] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[09:54] <dabaR> ThunderStruck: /j #ubuntu-offtopic if you are not already there/
[09:54] <ThunderStruck> dabaR: issue?
[09:54] <IseeIsee> penguin42: will live CD do the job for testing ?
[09:54] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Yeh probably
[09:54] <Snake> Someone please, what is the command to edit most of gnome and its programs, the closest I can remeber is gnome-conf (but thats not it)
[09:55] <IseeIsee> penguin42 my ver is 4.10 btw
[09:55] <nasty_b> bbrazil: I open up the terminal server client but I'm still unsure of what you mean.... sorry, but I really don't know much of what I'm doing
[09:55] <penguin42> IseeIsee: That's *ancient*
[09:55] <jrib> Snake: gconf-editor
[09:55] <DBO> Snake, gconf-editor
[09:55] <DBO> doh
[09:55] <Snake> Thanks guys
[09:55] <Snake> :)
[09:55] <pbuchan> where can i get the list of the updates pushed down?
[09:55] <bbrazil> nasty_b: just to be surew - you're trying to run mysql commands?
[09:55] <IseeIsee> penguin42: I know, i'm downloading the latest, its gonna take some time, its 58% done
[09:56] <IseeIsee> but having the latest or old can make a difference on the driver ?
[09:56] <nasty_b> bbrazil: Well I'd like to first create users for the database. I'm not sure if that would fall under that category?
[09:56] <mrclean>  teknoprep: Dont understand the politicla comment
[09:56] <dabaR> Hi. My nephew plays a flash game that used to run sound, and no it no longer plays sound. I tried checking the alsamixer, and muting/unmuting several things, to no avail. I also looked at what packages are installed relating to mozilla firefox, but nothing seems familiar. I tried in firefox and epiphany. Clues?
[09:56] <mrclean> can you elaborate on that?
[09:56] <penguin42> IseeIsee: I doubt it - I'd be surprised if 4.10 doesn't pick up that card - the 3c5xx series 3com are pretty old and they've worked fine for ages; PC Cards are always a bit more touchy
[09:56] <dabaR> Is "Clues?" the last word in my post?
[09:57] <bbrazil> nasty_b: it would. Would you like a command line interface, or a web interface?
[09:57] <penguin42> dabaR: Have you got something else using sound at the same time?
[09:57] <bbrazil> dabaR: yes
[09:57] <dabaR> penguin42: Yes.
[09:57] <dabaR> bbrazil: thanks
[09:57] <jrib> dabaR: have you setup firefox/flash to use aoss?
[09:57] <pbuchan> does anyone know where to get a list of packages for ubuntu?
[09:57] <dabaR> !packages
[09:57] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:58] <penguin42> jrib: I was about to suggest using the FIREFOX_DSP env variable - do you know a better way?
[09:58] <nasty_b> bbrazil: I wont be needing to run any commands from any other computer so I don't feel the need to install phpmyadmin. I just need to do a few things from this machine (the one mysql is installed on) so I think command line would be ok
[09:58] <dabaR> jrib: what was that URL to do that afain?
[09:58] <jrib> penguin42: nope, I was going to suggest the same
[09:58] <penguin42> jrib: It's a mess isn't it - what was wrong with a menu item.....
[09:58] <bbrazil> nasty_b: okay then, first open a terminal (should be under the application menu)
[09:58] <nasty_b> bbrazil: yeah I have that open
[09:58] <jrib> dabaR: it's in the restricted formats wiki page
[09:58] <jrib> !restricted > dabar
[09:58] <joffle> hey folks, is there anyone who could help me get my ethernet or wireless card working?  i recently installed ubuntu dapper...both seem to be detected but neither works
[09:59] <dabaR> brb
[09:59] <pbuchan> !updates
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about updates - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:59] <bbrazil> nasty_b: type 'mysql -u root -p ""'
[09:59] <pbuchan> where can i get a list of updates?
[09:59] <lightdifference> hey, could someone possibly do me a favor? this has NOTHING to do with linux, but there's a troll in #wordpress and #9rules who calls himself the GNAA>
[10:00] <lightdifference> he's taking over.
[10:00] <bbrazil> lightdifference: contact a freenode staffer
[10:00] <lightdifference> the only one avaliable is idle.
[10:00] <nasty_b> bbrazil: ok
[10:00] <mrclean>  teknoprep: I think we've just hit a brick wall here/
[10:00] <mrclean> ?
[10:00] <bbrazil> lightdifference: alindeman is the current one
[10:00] <penguin42> jrib: Hmm it seems you can actually put that in a config file: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/27093
[10:00] <lightdifference> he's  been idle for a while.
[10:00] <mrclean>  teknoprep:  (By the way, I am a democrat)
[10:01] <mrclean> :)
[10:01] <jrib> penguin42: yeah, I believe that's the way the wiki recommends
[10:01] <bilss_> DBO: it works ok
[10:01] <gnomefreak> lightdifference: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:01] <DBO> bilss_, alright, sounds good
[10:02] <bilss_> DBO: if i need to mount a cd from the external drive whats the command please
[10:02] <Venky> can someone help me how to fix my package manager error...i have a broken samba installation now iam not able to run the update manager
[10:02] <Venky> please help
[10:02] <nasty_b> bbrazil: ok thanks a lot. I "Terminal server client" open instead of "terminal". Thanks again!
[10:02] <IseeIsee> its a general question, I got a HDD which is password set, how can I remove the password on it ? I know the password
[10:02] <DBO> !mount > bilss_
[10:02] <bbrazil> nasty_b: tsc is for connecting to windows systems I think
[10:02] <DBO> bilss_, that link contains information on mounting drives
[10:02] <Thewyzewun> bbrazil: one of the packages cannot install 'cos it's dependency liblame0 isn't available, I've looked up liblame0 and found it here: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/hoary/libs/liblame0, but I'd rather install it inside Synaptic, is this possible? - I haven't installed a tar file before ( !!)
[10:02] <DBO> bilss_, but most likely it will mount automagically
[10:03] <nasty_b> bbrazil: yeah VNC and stuff
[10:03] <bbrazil> nasty_b: something like that
[10:03] <Venky> it doesnt let me uninstall it
[10:03] <bilss_> DBO: yep i thought so -automatcally
[10:03] <Venky> there is a red box in front of the package
[10:03] <bbrazil> Thewyzewun: what are you trying to do?
[10:03] <[GuS] > Guys... is someone have Asus K8N4-E MB, you must add pci=nommconf at the boot line... in other case will never boot! i've fixed
[10:03] <Thewyzewun> play MP3s
[10:03] <[GuS] > thanks!
[10:04] <bbrazil> Thewyzewun: have you added restricted to your sources?
[10:04] <Thewyzewun> rythmbox recognizes most but not all of my files now - some it just says: gstreamer error: failed to change state
[10:05] <bilss_> DBO: i am in fluxbox is a bit restictive not as flexible as gnome
[10:05] <Thewyzewun> bbrazil: Added restricted to my sources? Sorry I don't follow. I've grabbed most of the files on the restricted file list using Synaptic, but not all (because one of them generated an error as mentioned above, I'll just check which one it is that failed to install...)
[10:05] <Thewyzewun> bbrazil: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[10:07] <bbrazil> Thewyzewun: hmm, add multiverse to your sources
[10:07] <Thewyzewun> how do I add it to my sources? (what are my sources) should I do a search for multiverse in synaptic and add it for installation?
[10:07] <dr_willis> !easy-source
[10:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about easy-source - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:08] <dr_willis> !easysource
[10:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:08] <dr_willis> Thewyzewun,  it is worth while to read up on the apt-get system
[10:08] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[10:08] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[10:08] <meekish> is there a web searchable database of the stable package builds for debian
[10:08] <meekish> ?
[10:08] <Flannel> meekish: debian?
[10:08] <Thewyzewun> Thanks dr_willis :)
[10:08] <meekish> sorry, ubuntu :)
[10:08] <meekish> i mean
[10:08] <dr_willis> debian has a site like that.. not sure if ubuntu has a similer site.
[10:08] <Flannel> meekish: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:09] <Thewyzewun> daft thing is I taught myself how to use CLI to quite a good extent a few years ago, but then slipped back into windows and now I'm having trouble remembering
[10:10] <IseeIsee> do all linux distri work the same way, installing packages ?
[10:10] <meekish> i am going to be deploying a server in a couple of months and am trying to choose between ubuntu and gentoo. i'm fairly new to *nix, and would like to have a good package manager with up-to-date software. i tried debian, but the apt-get packages are way out of date. i've been playing around with gentoo a little bit and love the fact that all the latest software is already available through emerge. how does ubunutu's package release cycle c
[10:10] <papo> IseeIsee: no
[10:10] <dr_willis> IseeIsee,  no - thats a major diff -
[10:10] <penguin42> IseeIsee: No, package management is what differentiates most of them
[10:11] <IseeIsee> right
[10:11] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Many of us find the ubuntu/debian apt system to be the best around and is what makes us prefer it
[10:11] <papo> what can I do if the alt. dapper installer freezes during graphics card detection?
[10:11] <bbrazil> meekish: for stability, you don't want the latest versions
[10:11] <IseeIsee> ok penguin42 I've opened the terminal after booting from a live CD
[10:11] <chowells> meekish: if you are deploying a server, then having the latest versions of everything tends to be bad
[10:12] <penguin42> papo: You could try doing a server install and when its happy add X later
[10:12] <stinkball> can someone help me install ATI drivers? i followed instructions on a forum and i'm still having problems
[10:12] <IseeIsee> I should do ipconfig eth0 ?
[10:12] <penguin42> IseeIsee: so now do /sbin/ifconfig eth0
[10:12] <papo> penguin42: what metapackage(s) do I have to install to make a desktop ubuntu out of a server ubuntu?
[10:12] <penguin42> papo: I don't know - I believe there is an ubuntu-desktop or something like that
[10:12] <dr_willis> papo,  ubuntu-desktop for a strt
[10:12] <IseeIsee> it says no such file or directory ?
[10:13] <tuxtux_> reboot
[10:13] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Hmm /sbin/ifconfig   please make sure you've typed that correctly
[10:13] <papo> dr_willis: does that mean that ubuntu-desktop isn't installing everyting?
[10:13] <penguin42> (Anyone got a live CD up - I assume it has ifconfig in /sbin like the install?)
[10:13] <lezombi> i need help setting up a Belkin F5D7000 card
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> bbrazil: I tried apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse and it said :
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> or been moved out of Incoming.
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> that package should be filed.
[10:13] <gnomefreak> Thewyzewun: dont paste in here
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[10:13] <LjL> !paste
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:13] <papo> bah
[10:13] <penguin42> lezombi: What type of card is it?
[10:13] <Thewyzewun>   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse: Depends: liblame0 (>= 3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[10:13] <IseeIsee> penguin42 would ipconfig require a full live CD Boot ?
[10:13] <Thewyzewun> E: Broken packages
[10:14] <penguin42> IseeIsee: that is I***f***config - f not p
[10:14] <gnomefreak> try that one again when he gets back
[10:14] <lezombi> penguin42: it is for wireless internet
[10:14] <joffle> can anyone help with getting my network card working?  i can't get online at all in ubuntu.  the card is a via rhine ii.
[10:14] <penguin42> lezombi: Ah - I don't know wireless
[10:14] <Ins|de> hi there, i'm with a little problem in my ubuntu 6.06 LTS and i've no sound!! the alsa modules are loaded and i can run xmms without any error (and of course the cables are plugged :)).. any idea?
[10:14] <meekish> is ubuntu better for *nix noobs than gentoo is?
[10:14] <IseeIsee> oops lets try that :)
[10:14] <meekish> all i will be using is an ssh command line
[10:15] <dr_willis> meekish,  vastly better
[10:15] <papo> joffle: does the card appear in ifconfig -a ?
[10:15] <penguin42> meekish: well, gentoo is kind of like being flown to a foreign country of which you don't know the language
[10:15] <Fjodor> Hi. Does anyone know, why update-grub seems to forget my defaultopts, and set them back to standard quiet splash?
[10:15] <penguin42> meekish: without food or water
[10:15] <IseeIsee> penguin42, there are some details shown
[10:15] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Good - if its showing things like hwaddr and Link encap etc  its found the card
[10:16] <IseeIsee> yeah it is showing that stuff
[10:16] <stinkball> can someone help me install ati drivers for my x800gto, i tried installing the latest from ATI and games still run sluggish
[10:16] <joffle> papo: yes, i think so.  it shows up in the network settings as well as eth0, but no connection.
[10:16] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Congratulations - you see Linux DOES support your card....
[10:16] <meekish> yeah, my impression has been the gentoo is really intended for *nix ubergeeks. why do i care what version of linux kernel my distro uses? i just want a working OS install!
[10:16] <papo> joffle: do the LEDs on the NIC glow or blink?
[10:16] <halley> Okay, in what file can I erase the new idiot-must-use-sudo message on every new terminal?
[10:17] <penguin42> meekish: It is good for people who really want to hyper optimise everything - but nothing stops you rebuilding packages on ubuntu either
[10:17] <meekish> are there any web control panels available that run on ubuntu yet?
[10:17] <Thewyzewun> gnomefreak: apologies, didn't know about the pastebin (i'm an IRC newb)
[10:17] <lezombi> i have my network card actually saying it is there but i dont know how to get it to actually connect to the internet
[10:17] <IseeIsee> penguin42 but it doesn't picks up my internet
[10:17] <joffle> papo: hmm...it's in a laptop, no LEDs.  the card worked on the breezy livecd, and works now in windows.
[10:18] <gnomefreak> Thewyzewun: no worries i figured it was going no you so i stopped it
[10:18] <papo> joffle: Hm ok... can you manually configure an IP address?
[10:19] <Thewyzewun> here's the error message that package chucked at me (again). It recommended I report it as a bug actually. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18107
[10:19] <Mystery_Mark> Hello
[10:19] <penguin42> is that like a Question Mark?
[10:19] <Centaur5> Could anybody recommend a good book for setting up a server in ubuntu using domain logins, file shares, dhcp server, ssh, etc.?
[10:19] <Mystery_Mark> penguin42, nope.
[10:19] <dr_willis> that would be several books.
[10:19] <Sakireth> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:19] <Sakireth> oops..
[10:19] <Sakireth> should have had a /
[10:19] <Centaur5> dr_willis: Not just one would have it all?
[10:19] <dr_willis> ssh and samba are well documented online.  Centaur5
[10:20] <joffle> papo: i'm afraid i don't know how.  another problem is i've only got this one computer, so trying anything will require rebooting. :|
[10:20] <IseeIsee> can one do java development on vector-linux ?
[10:20] <dr_willis> as for dhcp - thats can be trivial.. or very detailed.. dependong on your needs.
[10:20] <papo> joffle: Uhm that's not very comfortable to debug :(
[10:20] <dr_willis> IseeIsee,  i dont see why any disrto would not allow java debvelopment
[10:20] <IseeIsee> i mean efficient development or would it be very slow ?
[10:20] <Centaur5> dr_willis: Well I'm having a hard time finding a howto about a domain server.
[10:21] <joffle> yeah...i agree..
[10:21] <papo> joffle: for the how: open a terminal, run sudo su and then ifconfig <iface> <ip>
[10:21] <penguin42> Centaur5: I suggest starting at www.samba.org ?
[10:21] <dr_willis> IseeIsee,  i dont see why speed would be different either.
[10:21] <halley> How can I get rid of this message?
[10:21] <halley> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>". / See "man sudo_root" for details.
[10:21] <dr_willis> Using Samba  - older vbersions is avail for a free download from the Orieally site.
[10:21] <papo> joffle: iface is eth0 or whatever interface your NIC is, and IP is a free IP
[10:21] <speeves> IseeIsee: that is probably a question for the vector-linux room :)
[10:21] <Centaur5> penguin42: Okay, thanks.
[10:21] <piwi> !ntfs
[10:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:21] <papo> joffle: And then you can try to ping your default gw. with 'ping <defaultgwip>
[10:21] <papo> '
[10:22] <Thewyzewun> I'm going to leave this bug for today; I'll post on the forums later maybe, thanks for all the help Dr_Willis, bbrazil (I can listen to Alanis Morissette now hehe)
[10:22] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with a sound issue? It appears with my onboard SigmaTel sound card the left audio crackles. Does anyone know of drivers or a way of fixing this?
[10:22] <dr_willis> pianoboy3333,  try jiggling the cables? :)
[10:22] <jrib> halley: take a look at /etc/bash.bashrc
[10:22] <Dial_tone> any gtkpod users about? I don't see which option writes new files TO the ipod
[10:22] <pianoboy3333> dr_willis: well, it's not a hardware problem, becuase they work amazingly perfect in windows
[10:23] <pianoboy3333> My whole problem is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1258892
[10:23] <penguin42> pianoboy3333: Have you tried fiddling with some of the flags?
[10:23] <halley> jrib, ah, thanks.  Looks like it looks for a flag file in ~/ -- how quaint.
[10:23] <VelcroSHOOZE> Dial_tone: 'Sync'
[10:23] <papo> joffle: do you know your default GW's IP?
[10:23] <pianoboy3333> penguin42: flags where?
[10:23] <IseeIsee> penguin42, when I was in expert mode, I ran apt-get update but it was failing to make connection to http://security.ubuntu...............
[10:24] <penguin42> pianoboy3333: Bring up a mixer that shows you *all* of the settings and I'd try flipping IEC958 and External amplifier; alsamixer should be able to do that
[10:24] <Dial_tone> I've tried sync. it seems to be syncing the local disk only
[10:24] <pianoboy3333> penguin42: like gnome-volume-control?
[10:24] <IseeIsee> my network cable is coming from a windows machine and it picks up internet nicely when I connect it to another windows machine but not when I connect it to this linux machine, although it has detected the ethernet card
[10:24] <VelcroSHOOZE> Dial_tone: when i use it i open it, hit 'read', go to local, drag my files to the ipod, and hit 'sync'
[10:24] <penguin42> pianoboy3333: Yeh - you might be able to do it on that, but it probably hides all the more obscure flags like that
[10:25] <VelcroSHOOZE> unplug and go
[10:25] <pianoboy3333> penguin42: I think it does, what else can I use?
[10:25] <penguin42> IseeIsee: Check you can ping the windows machine
[10:25] <penguin42> pianoboy3333: alsamixer
[10:25] <sys8976> lseelsee what ip do you get when you type in ifconfig?
[10:25] <h3sp4wn> Edgy cd's are avaliable daily builds anyway !!
[10:25] <penguin42> pianoboy3333: Move the cursor with the right arrow button and keep going - it will scroll
[10:25] <joffle> papo: i think it's 192.168.1.1
[10:25] <IseeIsee> sys8975 you mean when I type ifcongif etho ?
[10:25] <pianoboy3333> penguin42: ok, thanks
[10:26] <papo> joffle: you'd better make sure it is, because if it's not you won't get any ping replys anyway
[10:26] <penguin42> pianoboy3333: I've seen a couple of sound cards just work a bit weird with those settings so just try flipping them individually
[10:26] <Nekromaan> good evening, i compiled a new kernel in ubuntu, it works fine but it gives me 6-8 errors of the same: modprobe: FATAL: couldn load /lib/modules/2.6.17.4/modules.dep :no such file or directory; but that file exists; where is the error?
[10:26] <frogzoo> IseeIsee: you might want to install 'net-tool' & check your hd/fd + 100btx/10bt settings
[10:27] <jona1> can somebody help me with the xserver? i can only set the 3 default resoultions although i changed my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:27] <mikeymike-linux> how do i adjust my recording source
[10:27] <mikeymike-linux> i want to set it to record from microphone
[10:27] <pianoboy3333> penguin42: well, I tried using a pci sound card from a really old dell, but it didn't even work...
[10:27] <penguin42> IseeIsee: You are using a cross over cable aren't you?
[10:27] <dash`> anybody know of a good batch mp3 tagger for Ubuntu?
[10:27] <joffle> papo: alright.  many thanks...i think i'll write this down and try it out, but then i'd better try to get on irc from another computer.
[10:27] <frogzoo> pianoboy3333: you probly net to set irq + io addresses
[10:27] <IseeIsee> its connected on both sides with Lan cards, that would be crossover cable I guess ?
[10:27] <papo> joffle: ok, good luck
[10:27] <penguin42> frogzoo: Unlikely on a pci card
[10:28] <frogzoo> penguin42: depends how old
[10:28] <IseeIsee> so how can I ping my windows machine ?
[10:28] <IseeIsee> ping 192.168.0.1 ?
[10:28] <ljlolel> can i dump a sql lite table so that it dumps insert statements with column names???
[10:29] <strumer> is the plf repo gone ?  I tried freecontrib and ftp.free.fr neither seam to be working.
[10:29] <baconbacon> indee easyubuntu seems broken by this atm
[10:30] <Nightattack> hello, is there a way to speed up my pc while using XGL(without buying new stuff ^^)? it runs too slow atm :(
[10:30] <pianoboy3333> frogzoo: the card was from... 2000? maybe one or two years earlier?
[10:31] <Sapote> hi all... have a DVD burner LG HSA, cannot burn in ubuntu dapper, cannot burn in kubuntu breezy, burn ok in knoppix 3.7
[10:31] <halley> hello, is there a way to make my computer as good as that famous deep blue i.b.m. supercomputer that beat kasparov (without buying new stuff^^)? it runs too slow :(
[10:31] <Sapote> :(
[10:31] <XVampireX> halley, troll
[10:31] <papo> halley: I'm sorry, no
[10:32] <halley> No, I'm responding to someone else's odd sense of expectations.
[10:32] <pepsi_> ive installed ubuntu, including dapper, a number of times, but this time i used text mode from the dvd..
[10:32] <halley> But anyway, I had my earlier question answered, so away I go.
[10:32] <pepsi_> but on this install, i dont have colors in ls
[10:32] <Traveler> halley yes, go steal deep blue
[10:32] <tedhhi> Hello.... is anyone here familiar with NTFS resizing during install of ver 6?
[10:32] <XVampireX> halley, I know, I told this someone to come here into IRC and ask why XGL is crawling
[10:32] <Sapote> halley, buy a new machine
[10:33] <eugman> I have a drm free dvd movie and I'd like to make a copy. How can I do that? Gnomebaker only seems to copy cd's
[10:33] <pepsi_> i tried running `dircolors` but it doesnt seem to do anything
[10:33] <XVampireX> Must be something with the setup I'm guessing
[10:33] <papo> pepsi_: is ls --color working?
[10:33] <pepsi_> if i login as root on the console, i get colors in ls, but not as my normal user
[10:33] <unstablesob> pepsi_: if you run it with the backticks, you wont see anything, its setting up some environment varaibles for you
[10:33] <pepsi_> papo, yes
[10:33] <pianoboy3333> penguin42: I only get PCM, Front, Surround, Center, and LFE controls...
[10:33] <Traveler> pepsi alias
[10:33] <pepsi_> unstablesob, no backticks
[10:33] <bob> ola
[10:34] <bob> como vay
[10:34] <penguin42> pianoboy3333: even if you keep moving right - doesn't it scroll?
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> Edgy seems to be quite stable at the moment
[10:34] <bob> excuse me
[10:34] <pianoboy3333> penguin42: nope...
[10:34] <bob> i'm a new linux user
[10:34] <pepsi_> Traveler, but why would it be different on this install? isnt that setup in /etc/profile or one of those things?
[10:34] <penguin42> pianoboy3333: Ah - I'm out of ideas for that then
[10:34] <pianoboy3333> damn...
[10:34] <bob> ok
[10:35] <bob> tchao
[10:35] <pepsi_> its like im missing one of the bash profile scripts
[10:35] <eugman> How do i copy a dvd movie on the fly
[10:35] <tedhhi> pepsi_: perhaps try copying your root user's ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile scripts to your home directory (and do the necessary chown)?
[10:35] <penguin42> (repeat) Does anyone know what in the installer decides what to put in the installation initrd? Is it just mkinitrd - what calls it?
[10:36] <Seveas> penguin42, mkinitramfs
[10:36] <Traveler> the new one
[10:36] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: can you help with a sound issue? I know you work on alsa, my left audio crackles with my integrated SigmaTel... but it's not hardware becuase they work beautifully in Windows XP, so it must be some driver issue, can you help me? I posted the rest of my problem at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1258892
[10:36] <pepsi_> tedhhi, i thought about that, but is there anything different between root's and a normal users?.. indeed i am missing .bashrc and .bash_profile in my home dir, but where do those scripts get copied from when a new user is made?
[10:36] <penguin42> Seveas: So it had some list of hardware and what corresponds to what modules?
[10:37] <pepsi_> id like to fix it at the correct point instead of a per-user fix, i guss
[10:37] <Seveas> penguin42, sort of see /etc/mkinitramfs/
[10:37] <tedhhi> pepsi_: normally, when you add a user, the contents of /etc/skel are copied to the new homedir.  If you didn't use the normal system tool for this (useradd or adduser), that could explain why you didn't get those files
[10:37] <naknomik> Is there a way to switch the Login Manager from GDM to KDM? How to do it?
[10:38] <penguin42> Seveas: Hmm - those look pretty close to the files inside the initrd that is created; what creates those etc files and knows which modules to select at boot time?
[10:38] <gmlion> hi...what is the command to see the chat list?
[10:38] <pepsi_> tedhhi, this user was setup on install, which is why im confused.. checking on /etc/skel now
[10:38] <penguin42> Seveas: It's just I have a machine that works fine on the live boot, but the initrd that it installs is missing the modules for the disc controller
[10:38] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: I'll look in a bit, kinda busy atm
[10:38] <frogzoo> tedhhi: yes - don't do it - there's a bug
[10:38] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: ok, thanks, no problem
[10:38] <Seveas> penguin42, you might want to file a bug about that
[10:38] <naknomik> How do I change my login manager from GDM to KDM?
[10:38] <penguin42> Seveas: Nod - I was going to see if I could find the appropriate package
[10:39] <Seveas> naknomik, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[10:39] <pepsi_> tedhhi, one thing that i did differently this time was that i created a /home partition as well as a seperate one for /home/pepsi and i think that might be the real cause
[10:39] <eugman> I need help copying and unencrypted dvd
[10:39] <pepsi_> /etc/skel does indeed exist and is populated
[10:39] <pepsi_> ill copy those to my home.. thanks tedhhi
[10:39] <eugman> Whoops. I need help coping a drm free dvd movie
[10:39] <tedhhi> frogzoo: thanks for the response -- is there just a chance of a problem or will resizing ntfs really break that partition?
[10:39] <tedhhi> pepsi_: welcome, glad I could help
[10:39] <Seveas> penguin42, initramfs-tools perhaps
[10:40] <frogzoo> tedhhi: yes - you can cause serious data loss with v1 of qparted - see launchpad if you want the bug info
[10:40] <Swian> is there a way to get your hardware config in ubuntu?
[10:40] <penguin42> Seveas: OK, I'll have a look
[10:40] <Subhuman> Swian, to do what?
[10:40] <tedhhi> frogzoo: OK, thanks.  Is there a recommended tool (windows or linux) for shrinking NTFS?
[10:40] <Subhuman> Swian, try "lspci"
[10:40] <psyke83> hey has anyone here got an nvidia card? I just installed & ran their Dawn Fairy app through wine and she's missing a leaf on one of her breasts ;)
[10:40] <Swian> I want to see processor and bus speed
[10:40] <bbrazil> tedhhi: gparted
[10:40] <naknomik> Seveas: Thanks, that was easy.
[10:40] <penguin42> Swian: You can see processor details in /proc/cpuinfo - but bus speed, I'm not sure where I'd find that
[10:41] <penguin42> Swian: x86info might be able to figure that out
[10:41] <mike1> can anyone tell me hoe to view this page http://www.pepsico.com/PEP_Careers/JobOpportunities/index.cfm
[10:41] <mike1> it wants IE or mozilla
[10:41] <Seveas> mike1, mail them so they fix their page
[10:41] <pepsi_> you can change the client ID in about:config i think
[10:42] <penguin42> mike1: Perhaps you should go and work for coca-cola instead?
[10:42] <tedhhi> bbrazil: OK, thanks, I'll check that out
[10:42] <penguin42> mike1: Have you tried telling firefox to lie about the useragent?
[10:42] <Revelation> mike1: im actually using mozilla, but still not working though
[10:42] <Revelation> ;P
[10:42] <mike1> penguin42: can you fond me a job in chicago ??  :)
[10:43] <frogzoo> bbrazil: tedhhi NO qparted is broken for NTFS
[10:43] <^THE_HAMMER^> hi all
[10:43] <bbrazil> frogzoo: gparted works fine to the best of my knowledge
[10:43] <Swian> url opens fine in firefox for me mike1
[10:44] <frogzoo> bbrazil: nope - there's an open bug against v1 which results in major data loss
[10:44] <Swian> cold fusion is crap anyway
[10:44] <^THE_HAMMER^> how can i copy/paste from desktop folder to the user/share/folder i want here?
[10:44] <pepsi_> mike1, general.useragent in about:config
[10:44] <^THE_HAMMER^> wont let me :(
[10:44] <bbrazil> frogzoo: link?
[10:44] <penguin42> mike1: I'd try konqueror - it has a very easy mechanism for selecting what to tell each site it is - or opera
[10:44] <mike1> Swian: can you search for jobs?  URL open put the search tool doesn't
[10:44] <bbrazil> ^THE_HAMMER^: that requires root. what are you trying to do?
[10:44] <Seveas> ^THE_HAMMER^, why? /usr/share is not for sharing things in
[10:44] <crazy_penguin> i'm off. i wish to everyone a good night. sleep well! :)
[10:45] <frogzoo> bbrazil: what, no please?
[10:45] <^THE_HAMMER^> the eggdrop folder there isnt full
[10:45] <CrazyMonkey> is anyone familiar with pure-ftpd ?
[10:45] <tedhhi> frogzoo & bbrazil: is there a way to use gparted within the Ubuntu installation?  Google shows there's a gparted live CD, which I might use... might end up just installing Partitionmagic in windows if there's no known-reliable way to do this in the Ubuntu installer
[10:46] <Seveas> !anyone > CrazyMonkey
[10:46] <Meatwad> i need to restore my network settings back to how they are upon first boot, any suggestions?
[10:46] <CrazyMonkey> :)
[10:46] <XenonG> downloading RedHat Fedora......
[10:46] <HLM> mike1: i went to that site and it works just fine with firefox
[10:46] <tedhhi> Meatwad: perhaps "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0"?  <-- guess
[10:46] <XenonG> FireFox stink
[10:46] <XenonG> like coal
[10:46] <Dial_tone> VelcroSHOOZE:  Thanks. is drag n drop the only way to transfer or is there an option to copy all the songs I have checkmarked?
[10:46] <ompaul> XenonG, way off topic for a ubuntu support channel
[10:46] <nicholas> Does anyone else have trouble with that SysTray plugin for xchat?
[10:46] <^THE_HAMMER^> i used the sudo apt-get install eggdrop and it did its thing BUT when i goto run it says config is missing so i d/l a copy of eggdrop manually from a site and its got alot more inclussind the files missing and would like to replace it so it works
[10:46] <CrazyMonkey> I created a user using the pure-pw command and i keep getting authentication failed when i try to log to the server
[10:47] <mike1> I still can't get it, I'm trying Konq
[10:47] <nicholas> Whenever i right click on it and goto webbrowser, it just exits xchat/
[10:47] <zukalk> Gaim 2 Beta's ./configure script requires XML::Parser perl module, but sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Parser' returns an error
[10:47] <VelcroSHOOZE> Dial_tone: i would think there would be but i've never done it that way
[10:47] <Meatwad> tedhhi:  is that a terminal command type thing?
[10:47] <sid> I can read my windows xp partition, but is there a way I can write to it?
[10:48] <tedhhi> Meatwad: yes, run that at a command line as root
[10:48] <paniq> hey folks
[10:48] <LoneShadow_> whats wrong with this cmd  "debootstrap --arch i386 breezy /root/breezy/ http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu"
[10:48] <paniq> care to vote this up? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pmount/+bug/18078
[10:48] <bbrazil> sid: not safely
[10:48] <gatekeeper> hiya paniq
[10:48] <paniq> hey gk
[10:48] <LoneShadow_> I am trying to install a base system under /root/breezy folder, not a new partition
[10:48] <^THE_HAMMER^> seeing how as i cant change it is there a command i can use in terminal to run from desktop?
[10:48] <sid> that hard eh?
[10:48] <bbrazil> sid: can't do much without specs
[10:49] <^THE_HAMMER^> anyone?
[10:49] <Seveas> who had that xchat-systeay problem?
[10:49] <sid> you want my laptop's specs?
[10:49] <bbrazil> sid: no, the ntfs specs
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ^THE_HAMMER^: what are you wanting to run?
[10:49] <morrolan> Can anyone tell me how to turn off the "tapping" feature on my laptop?
[10:49] <Seveas> I just tested it - it crashes xchat here too =)
[10:49] <sid> i've never heard of ntfs specs
[10:50] <bbrazil> sid: that's the problem :)
[10:50] <sid> yeah, probably
[10:50] <morrolan> Can anyone tell me how to turn off the "tapping" feature on my laptop touchpad - I just want to be able to left-click and not tap-to-click
[10:50] <tedhhi> sid: bbrazil is just commenting that Microsoft does not provide the world with documentation about NTFS, so it's not possible to reliably write a driver for it
[10:50] <morrolan> !touchpad
[10:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about touchpad - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:50] <Meatwad> tedhhi:  thanks alot; that worked
[10:50] <morrolan> !synaptics
[10:50] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[10:50] <malachi> Is there a way I can have multiple desktop sessions? Sort of like themes, but I want it where each session has a certain wallpaper, toolbar, icons, etc.
[10:50] <tedhhi> Meatwad: you're welcome
[10:51] <sid> ic, that's not cool
[10:51] <morrolan> this bot is good at what it does!
[10:51] <ompaul> sid, no probably, ntfs is closed, and that is why MS are paying the EU 3million euros a day, this is how they keep their users (or not as this channel may proove)
[10:51] <LoneShadow_> is server down for debootstrap ?
[10:52] <sid> yeah, I don't like MS
[10:52] <st4n`> can anybody help me with my xserver? only having blank screen with 1280x80 (1024 is working properly) but can access console (alt+f1)
[10:53] <jason^> what's the difference between a desktop and a server install?
[10:53] <Revelation> sid: well who does ;P
[10:53] <Subhuman> st4n`, the correct reso is "1280x1024" yes?
[10:53] <st4n`> yes
[10:53] <gatekeeper> sid: Xandos linux distro reckon that they can write to a ntfs partition 'out of the box'
[10:53] <Subhuman> jason^, the server has no desktop, jus runs services.
[10:53] <frogzoo> !fixres > st4n`
[10:53] <Subhuman> gatekeeper, ntfs-3g can read/write perfect atm
[10:53] <st4n`> yes
[10:53] <st4n`> i tried this
[10:53] <jason^> Subhuman: yeah i figured that, so theres no x?  any other differences?
[10:53] <sid> yeah, I think SUSE  can as well
[10:53] <st4n`> the problem is following:
[10:53] <sid> I used to use Suse, but I'm liking ubuntu better
[10:54] <st4n`> booting the livecd i only get a blank screen but can hear the logon sound
[10:54] <st4n`> so i guess my monitor (notebook acer 1694) does not support it, does it?
[10:54] <Subhuman> jason^, no x, nothing really. if you select the LAMP install it'll install Apache2, Mysql and php 4 and all the trimmings really.
[10:54] <malachi> Is there a way I can have multiple desktop sessions? Sort of like themes, but I want it where each session has a certain wallpaper, toolbar, icons, etc.
[10:54] <^THE_HAMMER^> someone here help me pls
[10:54] <frogzoo> st4n`: so you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[10:54] <st4n`> yes i did so
[10:54] <^THE_HAMMER^> i wanna over right flder in usr/share
[10:54] <st4n`> as written in the faq
[10:54] <gatekeeper> Subhuman: where would you get ntfs-3gif you wanted to install it (only curious)
[10:55] <^THE_HAMMER^> folder*
[10:55] <Subhuman> jason^, i mean nothing installed, no no other differences, jason^ unless you want a server explictly you may as well just install the desktop version, and add the packages.
[10:55] <frogzoo> st4n`: the next step would be to set horizsync & vertrefresh in xorg.conf
[10:55] <st4n`> was sth like 40-62 and 60
[10:55] <st4n`> think is okay
[10:55] <Subhuman> gatekeeper,  http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[10:56] <morrolan> What is the apt-get command to clean-up now-unused downloaded package files?
[10:56] <dxdemetriou> when i change my pc to 64bit, can i move my existing installation of dapper and change the kernel to 64bit?
[10:56] <mike1> Konquror will not even load the page.....  (I think I have to install all the plugins first before I can tell) thanks for the help I'll see if I can get it....
[10:56] <gatekeeper> thanx Subhuman :-)
[10:56] <baconbacon> ^THE_HAMMER^: if you want to install it manually you should apt-get remove first
[10:56] <frogzoo> st4n`: u did say you can get a console though?
[10:56] <gregg__> dxdemetriou: that's not enough
[10:56] <st4n`> yes i can
[10:56] <farky> gatekeeper: hey man
[10:57] <gregg__> dxdemetriou: all the application/libaries/etc have to be 64 bit, too
[10:57] <LoneShadow_> can some verify if debootstrap is failing ?
[10:57] <LoneShadow_> someone*
[10:57] <baconbacon> ^THE_HAMMER^: ok i read you problem, if you want to replace the config file
[10:57] <DRW-Nemesis> hey, I have a little trouble choosing a good distrib, can someone help me pls?
[10:57] <dxdemetriou> gregg__, neither upgrade works/
[10:57] <hawkaloogie> DRW-Nemesis, xubuntu
[10:57] <DRW-Nemesis> I had kubuntu amd64 running, but nothing works on it
[10:58] <baconbacon> ^THE_HAMMER^: you should use sudo to write in folders such as /usr/share
[10:58] <roostishaw> anyone, how would i mount my usb pendrive in the nubuntu live cd?
[10:58] <SonicChao> roostishaw: Nubuntu?
[10:58] <roostishaw> yes
[10:58] <roostishaw> SonicChao, yes
[10:58] <frogzoo> st4n`: /var/log/Xorg.0.log should give an indication
[10:59] <^THE_HAMMER^> ok now is there away to install a file from desktop to the usr/share?
[10:59] <DRW-Nemesis> hawkaloogie, does kubuntu amd64 have incompatibility issues? - I had trouble installing firefox, getting azureus to work, or even installing ati drivers
[10:59] <sid> roostishaw, mkdir /tmp/sda1 mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/sda1
[10:59] <sid> at least that's what I'd try
[10:59] <hawkaloogie> DRW-Nemesis, couldn't tell you, i've yet to install ubuntu on my amd64
[10:59] <gregg__> dxdemetriou: just backup your home and maybe /etc and reinstall the 64 bit version
[10:59] <DRW-Nemesis> what do you run on your 64bit then?
[10:59] <roostishaw> sid, thanks
[11:00] <frogzoo> DRW-Nemesis: 64bit isn't as full featured as 32 - you might be best to use 32bit instead
[11:00] <halley> Okay, so what secret flag do I need to turn on to get useful ft hinting?  Check out the bold 's' letters!  http://halley.cc/Screenshot.png
[11:00] <DRW-Nemesis> I should've asked my question differently, I need a good 64 bit ditribution
[11:00] <SonicChao> DRW-Nemesis: You should probably use i386 version...
[11:00] <dxdemetriou> gregg__, thanks. i'll try
[11:00] <DRW-Nemesis> :( I see
[11:00] <frogzoo> SonicChao: 686 is good for a64's
[11:01] <IIIEars> !xgl
[11:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:01] <SonicChao> frogzoo: i686? ok, didn't know about that...
[11:01] <frogzoo> SonicChao: it's the 386 distro, just upgrade kernel to 686
[11:01] <DRW-Nemesis> can you even put xgl on the 64bit kubuntu?
[11:01] <Muc> hi, I have a problem with usb devices, can anybody help me?
[11:01] <olrrai> how to resize an ext3 partition? partimage + fsck works?
[11:02] <frogzoo> olrrai: gparted
[11:02] <sid> I compare 64bit to linux, just not quite widely used to make everything run on it...yet
[11:02] <IIIEars> xgl/compiz for ubuntu  IRC channel?
[11:02] <olrrai> knopyx has gparted to boot out of main os
[11:02] <olrrai> ?
[11:02] <phunkalicious> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:03] <frogzoo> olrrai: is this your / partition?
[11:03] <IIIEars> I havew compiz installed it works then locks up. - Thanks phunkalicious
[11:04] <olrrai> frogzoo not only /
[11:04] <malachi> Is there a way I can have multiple desktop sessions? Sort of like themes, but I want it where each session has a certain wallpaper, toolbar, icons, etc.
[11:04] <frogzoo> olrrai: you can't resize a mounted partition - so you'll need a live cd
[11:04] <phunkalicious> you can just make separate sessions and be able to choose them through gdm
[11:05] <frogzoo> malachi: please, we can read
[11:05] <olrrai> yes or pxe boot
[11:05] <skavenge> anyone know how to turn on switching active window with a mouse-over? i had it setup in gnome cant find the setting in kde ..
[11:05] <gatekeeper> malachi: you can decide which desktop window manager you want to log into at login time
[11:05] <sid> malachi, make separate users and give each one a different desktop
[11:05] <malachi> Sorry, frogzoo...I have to leave pretty soon and I was trying to get an answer before I had to go offline. Forgive me.
[11:05] <olrrai> mounted is not my problem, the problem is what program can i use
[11:05] <DRW-Nemesis> thanks folks, I'll give xubuntu 32bit a try :P
[11:05] <frogzoo> malachi: :)
[11:07] <LoneShadow_> can someone create a /tmp/dapper folder and run "debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /tmp/dapper/ http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu"
[11:07] <sid> I'm feeling a little crazy, is there a way to run windows XP and linux simultaneously (like on macs you supposedly can switch by pressing F10 or something)
[11:07] <LoneShadow_> I need to verify if its working for others =/
[11:07] <hawkaloogie> sid, vmware could do it
[11:08] <Meatwad> hawkaloogie: is vmware free?
[11:08] <hawkaloogie> Meatwad, it wasn't last i checked
[11:09] <Meatwad> alrighty
[11:09] <sid> yeah, and it looks like it might be a pain to get working right
[11:09] <hawkaloogie> and it's not a very good solution at any rate. why do you want to run XP sid?
[11:09] <Muc> anyone can help me about the usb?
[11:10] <sid> I don't want to run XP, I just have to from time time (then I get back into linux ASAP)
[11:10] <hawkaloogie> sid, you "have" to, so you "want" to, but for WHAT?
[11:10] <baconbacon> i created a win2000 vm recently
[11:11] <lassegs> maybe you really dont have to sid?
[11:11] <tedhhi> sid: would it be acceptable to dual-boot, or do you really want one OS running within the other?
[11:11] <sid> no, I do dual-boot
[11:11] <LoneShadow_> no has few mins to help me verify the debootstrap problem ? :(
[11:11] <sid> I'm still transitioning from windows to linux
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> LoneShadow_: What are you trying to debootstrap ? edgy ?
[11:12] <LoneShadow_> no one*
[11:12] <sid> the main program I'm missing from windows is macromedia studio
[11:12] <sid> most the flash editor
[11:12] <LoneShadow_> trying to install breezy, its hanging on me
[11:12] <halley> Okay, so what secret flag do I need to turn on to get useful ft hinting?  Check out the bold 's' letters!  http://halley.cc/Screenshot.png
[11:12] <LoneShadow_> so not sure if it ubuntu server is down
[11:12] <LoneShadow_> its hung at "I: Retrieving Release" for more than 10mins
[11:13] <hawkaloogie> sid, for alternatives to anything except flash, Inkscape and Gimp,
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> LoneShadow_: Why do you want breezy ?
[11:13] <LoneShadow_> I need older X :P
[11:13] <sam_> how do you install desktop widgets etc...
[11:13] <LoneShadow_> but even debootstrap dapper dosnt work
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> LoneShadow_: just control C it and start again
[11:14] <LoneShadow_> I tried it 3 times on two different machines
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> LoneShadow_: (or try a different mirror)
[11:14] <morrolan> sam_: install GDesklets
[11:14] <LoneShadow_> where do I get the list of mirrors >
[11:14] <LoneShadow_> never mind, found it
[11:15] <Lobster> n8
[11:16] <sam_> ta
[11:16] <floyd> is there anybody here who feels comfortable helping me with a screen resolution problem on my laptop with a brand new dapper installation?
[11:16] <Cleft> hi
[11:17] <LoneShadow_> h3sp4wn: yup archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu is down, the mirror sites are working
[11:17] <LoneShadow_> thanks :)
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> LoneShadow_: You can deboostrap edgy as well as of today
[11:17] <claudio> hola
[11:17] <FingerPie> hey
[11:18] <LoneShadow_> I need an older version of X, not sure if I can install those on edgy or dapper
[11:18] <LoneShadow_> unless I compile it
[11:18] <floyd> basically, its one of those widescreen laptops and windows uses 1400x900 as a screen resolution. linux uses 1024x768 and theres so many different sollutions on the internet that i am confused by now
[11:18] <Heretician> Is there something else I can use other than "sudo dpkg xserver-xorg" that does the same thing? It doesnt seem to be working
[11:18] <olrrai> what s happen if I copy with cp the sda6 to a greater free sda7 (both ext3) and then remove sda6 (all this with a live cd) ? it works?
[11:18] <Subhuman> LoneShadow, why do you need an older version?
[11:18] <Subhuman> LoneShadow, and you can force apt-get to install an older version from the repos
[11:19] <frogzoo> !fixres > Heretician
[11:19] <FingerPie> what does dapper drake mean?
[11:20] <olrrai> what s happen if I copy with cp the sda6 to a greater free sda7 (both ext3) and then remove sda6 (all this with a live cd) ? it works?
[11:20] <frogzoo> !fixres > floyd
[11:20] <LoneShadow_> Subhuman: isnt it a bit messy with the dependencies
[11:20] <Heretician> that uh
[11:20] <Heretician> isnt helpful hehe
[11:20] <bethko> is there an openoffice.org 2.3 on the repositories yet?
[11:20] <Subhuman> LoneShadow, oh yeah of course, im jus saying apt-get can do it for ya :P
[11:20] <Heretician> I just want an alternative to reconfiguring xserver-xorg ;(
[11:21] <Heretician> oh and, a way to format the computer from command line?
[11:22] <frogzoo> Heretician: try setting horizsync/vertrefresh in xorg.conf, & live cd for the format
[11:22] <GodFather> where do I configure ubuntu to automatically enable IP port forwarding
[11:22] <floyd> frogzoo: i went through that wiki page advice and it wasnt too big a help. i had to install ubuntu again then for another reason and this time i want to get it right
[11:22] <LoneShadow_> my requirements are to get X working on a 800MB partition also it has to be Xorg version 6.9
[11:22] <GodFather> debian had an options file in /etc/network/
[11:22] <LoneShadow_> will see how much space breezy base + icewm will be
[11:23] <Heretician> frogzoo: where at in the live cd hehe.. I cant boot up other than to the recov-- i'm talking about completely uninstalling, not reinstalling.. I'm sure theres a way :P
[11:23] <gnutun> hey all; i'm very new to ubuntu, and im having apt-get problems. i want to install the package 'trac' which is listed on packages.ubuntu.com, but apt-get cant find it; am i missing something?
[11:23] <SonicChao> !repos
[11:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:24] <SonicChao> gnutun: It's because you don't have multiverse and universe enabled, I can help you enable them if you want.
[11:24] <gnutun> SonicChao: that'd be great, thanks; or, if theres a tutorial somewhere, i could do that too
[11:24] <olrrai> what s happen if I copy with cp the sda6 to a greater free sda7 (both ext3) and then remove sda6 (all this with a live cd) ? it works?
[11:24] <SonicChao> gnutun: Nah, i've got time...open Synaptic Package Manager...
[11:25] <roostishaw> sid, what was that command again?
[11:25] <gnutun> SonicChao: btw this is a server, so there's no gui
[11:25] <SonicChao> gnutun: Oh, dang...
[11:25] <gnutun> SonicChao: not so easy?
[11:25] <SonicChao> gnutun: I work with desktops, so now I'm not entirely sure either.
[11:25] <SonicChao> Sorry.
[11:25] <mahi> greetings
[11:26] <gnutun> SonicChao: np, i should be able to figure it out. multiverse and universe are like, classes of packages that i need to enable in apt-get somewhere?
[11:26] <gnutun> SonicChao: i can google it now that i know whats up
[11:26] <SonicChao> gnutun: Yes...and ok.
[11:26] <mahi> how do i install the smp kernel for intel duo core processors?
[11:26] <kbrooks> gnutun:
[11:26] <kbrooks> !repositorties
[11:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about repositorties - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:26] <kbrooks> !repositories
[11:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:26] <SonicChao> !multiverse
[11:26] <kbrooks> gnutun: see above
[11:27] <SonicChao> !universe
[11:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:27] <gnutun> ok great
[11:27] <mahi> !smp
[11:27] <SonicChao> Oh, they are the same...ok.
[11:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about smp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:27] <zuno> anyone know how to configure SIS AC'97 modem?
[11:27] <SonicChao> !anyone > zuno
[11:27] <kbrooks> SonicChao: disambiguate ;)
[11:27] <zuno> slmodemd not working
[11:27] <SonicChao> kbrooks: Ok ;)
[11:27] <kbrooks> SonicChao: universe and multiverse (the repos) arent the same
[11:28] <SonicChao> zuno: Please say the entire question, not just 3 works.
[11:28] <LjL> kbrooks: they were made into one, they used to be different
[11:28] <SonicChao> words*
[11:28] <kbrooks> ljl: I said "the repos"
[11:28] <kbrooks> ljl: not "the factoids"
[11:28] <gnutun> kbrooks, SonicChao, et al: thx, i got it
[11:28] <zuno> My question is, does anyone know how to get a SIS AC'97 modem working?
[11:28] <SonicChao> gnutun: Ok...
[11:28] <roostishaw> anyone, how would i mount my usb pendrive within the nubuntu live cd?
[11:28] <LjL> kbrooks: i was replying to the "SonicChao: disambiguate"
[11:29] <kbrooks> ljl: oh ok
[11:29] <SonicChao> zuno: Stop saying 'anyone', I already sent you ubotu's message,
[11:29] <mahi> smp installation help required:(
[11:29] <kbrooks> ljl: are you sure multiverse and universe (the repos) were merged?
[11:29] <THE_HAMMER> anyone here help me with moving a file have a look at this and tell me what im doing wrong (im wanting to move eggdrop folder from desktop and move it into usr/share/eggdrop)http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18110
[11:29] <zuno> my apologies... I'm new
[11:29] <gnutun> another question: again i'm very new to ubuntu, but i've used gentoo a lot; a package i want to install has options (trac can use sqlite or mysql) and the default is sqlite, which i'm not going to use. can i configure the package so that it doesnt have to download the sqlite dependencies?
[11:30] <LjL> zuno, we tend to appreciate more questions like "i've tried this, and it gives me the following error (http://url-to-the-pastebin-where-the-error-is)."
[11:30] <LjL> kbrooks: no, no, they weren't! *i* was talking about the factoids
[11:30] <kbrooks> LjL: Its not a error, god ...
[11:30] <flixil> gnutun: i don't think so
[11:30] <zuno> ok thank you LjL
[11:30] <roostishaw> anyone, how would i mount my usb pendrive within the nubuntu live cd?
[11:30] <kbrooks> LjL: HE WANTS TO KNOW HOW TO CONFIGURE A MODEM
[11:30] <gnutun> flixil: arright
[11:30] <LjL> !caps
[11:30] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:31] <flixil> gnutun: if u compile it u can configure it to don't compile it with sqlite, but i think that u have to download it anyway
[11:31] <dash`> how would I change the permissions of a bunch of files inside folders so that they are all writeable by the owner?
[11:31] <kbrooks> ljl: won't you please tell him at least "I dont know"?
[11:31] <flixil> gnutun: thas a think that i like of emerge
[11:31] <zukalk> Gaim 2 Beta's ./configure script requires XML::Parser perl module, but sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Parser' returns an error
[11:31] <fhq> Hi, can anyone help me with wireless security settings? Here's a thread I started with all the info: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216484
[11:31] <gnutun> flixil: yeah
[11:31] <pianoboy3333> Where do applications usually keep their icons? I want to edit the ones for checkgmail.
[11:31] <frogzoo> ubotu - no shouting
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about no shouting - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:32] <soundray> THE_HAMMER: the command you want is probably 'sudo cp ~/Desktop/eggdrop /usr/share/eggdrop'. Read about cli as recommended by ubotu:
[11:32] <soundray> !cli
[11:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:32] <SonicChao> THE_HAMMER: just reviewed you're pastebin, and would like you to try "cp ~/Desktop/eggdrop /usr/share/eggdrop"
[11:32] <sid> did you  get the command roostishaw?
[11:32] <roostishaw> anyone, how would i mount my usb pendrive within the nubuntu live cd?
[11:32] <roostishaw> sid, no...
[11:32] <soundray> SonicChao: glad to see we are in agreement ;)
[11:32] <sid> ok
[11:32] <sid> did you try it?
[11:32] <roostishaw> sid, do you still remember it?
[11:32] <sid> yeah
[11:32] <SonicChao> roostishaw: This is Ubuntu help, not Nubuntu help....
[11:33] <SonicChao> soundray: :)
[11:33] <kbrooks> roostishaw:
[11:33] <roostishaw> sid, can you tell me please
[11:33] <dash`> is there a way to change the file permissions of all files inside a folder?
[11:33] <kbrooks> roostishaw: pm me
[11:33] <SonicChao> !pm
[11:33] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[11:33] <Alpv> NEED HELP -- install spanish localization in Ubuntu breezy
[11:33] <sid> mkdir /tmp/sda1 mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/sda1
[11:33] <soundray> dash`: chmod 644 folder/*
[11:33] <frogzoo> dash`: chmod -R
[11:33] <kbrooks> SonicChao: no, I need to tell him something - i dont want to clutter
[11:34] <SonicChao> kbrooks: Oh, ok.
[11:34] <Heretician> Is there any alternative to rpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg? :/
[11:34] <Alpv> NEED HELP -- install spanish localization in Ubuntu breezy
[11:34] <SonicChao> !patience
[11:34] <southerngrey> How do I give my user profile root or superuser rights in Dapper Drake please?
[11:34] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:34] <Heretician> Or any reason why it isn't working, I cannot configure it either
[11:34] <LjL> Heretician: an alternative like what?
[11:34] <h3sp4wn> Heretician: You can write an xorg.conf manually
[11:34] <Heretician> like it does the exact same command
[11:34] <frogzoo> !es
[11:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:34] <h3sp4wn> Heretician: sudo dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg (is the command)
[11:34] <Alpv> I speak english.
[11:34] <Heretician> oh.
[11:34] <soundray> Alpv: System-Administration-Language Support
[11:34] <Heretician> stupid guide had it wrong
[11:35] <Heretician> thanks h3sp4wn
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> Heretician: If you are using ati or nvidia you can use there setup tools
[11:35] <kbrooks> ...
[11:35] <sid> what's a good web editor? the only one I know of is NVU
[11:35] <THE_HAMMER> ok sonic says this here cp: omitting directory `/home/shell/Desktop/eggdrop' does this mean i did it?
[11:35] <kbrooks> he /quit :/
[11:35] <soundray> sid: screem, bluefish
[11:35] <Heretician> I don't think its a problem with my video card
[11:35] <abhay> sid: emacs ;-)
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> Heretician: nvidiaxconfig for example
[11:35] <soundray> THE_HAMMER: no
[11:35] <sid> ok
[11:35] <Alpv> Actually, I only need to install the spanish localization for OpenOffice, in Ubuntu
[11:35] <Heretician> Moreso just xserver having a problem with my video card ;? -- It worked the first day although not the second
[11:35] <SonicChao> THE_HAMMER: I think so.
[11:35] <Alpv> sorry I missed that detail.
[11:36] <Heretician> (Today being the second) I havent got to get on Ubuntu yet
[11:36] <abhay> but what you're probably asking for is bluefish or something like that
[11:36] <THE_HAMMER> didnt look like it ither i just looked
[11:36] <soundray> THE_HAMMER: if /home/shell/Desktop/eggdrop is a directory, the command should be different like so:
[11:36] <SonicChao> soundray: Ok, no....
[11:36] <LjL> Alpv: then try "apt-cache search openoffice spanish"
[11:36] <SonicChao> THE_HAMMER: soundray is probably right...
[11:36] <Alpv> apt-cache search openoffice spanish
[11:36] <bimberi> sid: there's also bluefish and screem
[11:36] <soundray> THE_HAMMER: 'sudo cp -r ~/Desktop/eggdrop /usr/share/'
[11:36] <LjL> Alpv: in a shell, not here :)
[11:36] <lassegs> sid: quanta is alright
[11:36] <Alpv> sorry!
[11:36] <Alpv> I knew i did something wrong! :)
[11:36] <UserZ> Good evening, I too have X problem after installing "easy ubuntu" with the nVida messing up my.  I did not write down the command line to REVERT back to the old config.  Anyone help with what it may be/where to find it?  Many thanks
[11:37] <sid> cool
[11:37] <LjL> Alpv: you should probably install the openoffice.org-l10n-es package and the openoffice.org-help-es package
[11:37] <deep_> Im downloading eclipse now, they say thats quite good. Thats for PHP-programming though.
[11:37] <sid> now, does anyone know of any flash editors?
[11:37] <abhay> deep_ eclipse is nice but it's really heavy.
[11:37] <Flannel> UserZ: #easyubuntu would be the place to ask
[11:37] <sid> there was something called F4L (flash 4 linux) but that kind of died I think
[11:37] <UserZ> Flannel, thank you!  I din not see that one...  :-)
[11:38] <THE_HAMMER> can i msg ya sonic im lossing ya in channel here
[11:38] <abhay> try f4l, sid
[11:38] <lassegs> sid: im not sure but i dont think linux is the OS you would want to make flash in
[11:38] <soundray> UserZ: backups of your xorg.conf can be listed with 'ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.*'
[11:38] <deep_> abhay: Well, if i dont like it, i have scintilla as a backup :)
[11:39] <sid> why's that lassegs?
[11:39] <abhay> deep_ scite++ :-)
[11:39] <THE_HAMMER> soundray can ya msg me?
[11:39] <kbrooks> lassegs: theres a way to create screencasts from your screen
[11:39] <soundray> THE_HAMMER: is your nick registered?
[11:39] <kbrooks> w/ flash
[11:39] <deep_> abhay: Yeah, yeah. ;D
[11:39] <THE_HAMMER> no not sure how to
[11:39] <soundray> !register
[11:39] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:40] <lassegs> sid: i havent even seen a descent .swf player...
[11:40] <lassegs> kbrooks: thats lovely, but why do i need to know that
[11:40] <sid> true
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> lassegs: rofl
[11:41] <soundray> sid: Flash is a proprietary format, and is therefore naturally in disharmony with free OSs like Linux
[11:41] <kbrooks> i wonder who h3sp4wn is
[11:41] <abhay> sid: http://sourceforge.net/projects/f4l/ looks like development is dead.
[11:41] <kbrooks> abhay: gnash
[11:41] <deep_> abhay: YOu were kinda right. Im downloading 105 megs of stuff now, just to get that eclipse working. :P
[11:41] <kbrooks> is alive
[11:41] <Flannel> deep_: there are better editors for PHP (and theyre all more lightweight)
[11:41] <sid> ic
[11:42] <abhay> that's a movie player, isn't it, kbrooks? f4l is an editor
[11:42] <kbrooks> sry
[11:42] <abhay> i could be wrong
[11:42] <deep_> Flannel: Yeah, but now its allready started. I guess i could just "apt-get remove eclipse*" later on, and install something else :p
[11:42] <abhay> and i disagree soundray. openlaszlo is an example of how
[11:42] <abhay> ... how flash and open source can live in harmony
[11:42] <deep_> Flannel: But its alot of javastuff there to, But... they can stay. :P
[11:43] <gnomefreak> abhay: gplflash is open source flash
[11:43] <xored> anybody got experiance with ISPconfig or vhffs ( free confixx "brothers")
[11:43] <knapper> How do I configure lipstik?
[11:43] <soundray> abhay: a web developer who is serious about Linux and open source will prefer something other than Flash.
[11:44] <THE_HAMMER> reg'd now just waiting for u to get back to me
[11:44] <SonicChao> I know of a open source Flash project, but it isn't close to being finished.
[11:44] <SonicChao> Or even ported to Linux.
[11:44] <abhay> soundray: i don't disagree. i just think that flash is still an option.
[11:44] <lassegs> soundray: thats not entirely true, flash offers some functionality you dont get elsewhere
[11:44] <gatekeeper> soundray: abhay it's on the way Gnash
[11:44] <SonicChao> gatekeeper: Gnash??
[11:45] <SonicChao> gatekeeper: Can you tell me what that is?
[11:45] <abhay> gatekeeper: yes. gnash is a flash movie player but not something that you can use to create content, if i remember correctly. it was a savannah project right?
[11:45] <gatekeeper> SonicChao: This explains it: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[11:45] <mjr> lassegs, dunno about that, but if you're serious about FOSS, you'll rather forego the functionality if indeed there is some unique bits in it
[11:46] <SonicChao> gatekeeper: Ok, thanks.
[11:46] <soundray> lassegs: that's beside the point
[11:46] <Subhuman> SonicChao, f4l is open source linux fflash project, but it has no AS support.
[11:46] <lassegs> i give up. you win
[11:46] <SonicChao> Subhuman: AS?
[11:46] <gatekeeper> abhay: I guess that will come with time
[11:46] <abhay> actionscript, SonicChao
[11:46] <abhay> gatekeeper: we can only hope :)
[11:47] <abhay> i'm still waiting for some free time to play with Laszlo
[11:47] <SonicChao> abhay: Ah...I need (not urgently) to make flash to, I currently use a Wine LiveSwif 2.2
[11:47] <Subhuman> SonicChao, ActionScript
[11:47] <zool2005> can anyone tell me how to give user permission to poweroff from the command line without using sudo please?
[11:48] <sid> has anyone ever heard of "the flame project"?
[11:48] <gatekeeper> abhay: if there is demand, and it seeems there is I am fairly sure it will happen, I have noticed that is the 'open source way'
[11:48] <abhay> sid: link?
[11:48] <mahi> greetings... could someone help me install the restricted 686 kernel
[11:48] <FooAtari> Hi
[11:48] <sid> http://sourceforge.net/projects/flameproject
[11:48] <soundray> Thanks lassegs. That's the way I like it ;)
[11:49] <abhay> gatekeeper: very true. that's the beauty of it.
[11:49] <FooAtari> Complete ubuntu noob here, on my third install but so far have done nothing except screw things up.  Trying to get my wirelss card working, can anyone help? it's driving me mad! :D
[11:49] <abhay> and before i run into evangelism ... i'll stop there :)
[11:49] <picket> hi, how do I do a # with an us-keyboard ?
[11:49] <gatekeeper> abhay: see sid's url above
[11:49] <THE_HAMMER> !pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:50] <FooAtari> Im pretty new to linux too by the way...
[11:50] <zocky> hi. I just installed dapper and it all works, but other machines fail to find it by hostname
[11:50] <abhay> boo .. captivate != flash
[11:50] <abhay> i will admit, captivate rocks my world.. and i use it all the time
[11:51] <abhay> it's great to show HOWTO movies.
[11:51] <mahi> zocky: if you are using windows shared networks u'll have to use samba i guess
[11:51] <zocky> send host-name in dhcpclient.conf is not enough?
[11:51] <gatekeeper> not something I have got into yet
[11:52] <mahi> zocky: just my noob viewpoint.. don't know the details though..
[11:52] <zocky> bah, I'll want samba anyway
[11:53] <abonilla> hi, this channel is for Dapper too?
[11:53] <abonilla> or +1?
[11:53] <bbrazil> dapper
[11:54] <gatekeeper> abonilla: #ubuntu dapper #ubuntu+1 Edgy
[11:54] <picket> anyone using a US-keayboard ?
[11:54] <noname> hi all
[11:54] <linuxgoober> im using a us keyboard
[11:54] <abonilla> gatekeeper: oko
[11:54] <picket> whats the combo for " #  "
[11:55] <Desh> For an 80gig drive, how much should the swap be?
[11:55] <bbrazil> picket: shift-3
[11:55] <bbrazil> Desh: how much RAM?
[11:55] <picket> hmm ..
[11:55] <spades> Desh swap is usually 2xram
[11:55] <abhay> Desh, it's 2x of your ram not your HD
[11:55] <Desh> 1024mb
[11:55] <picket> wierd, but thx :>
[11:55] <IIIEars> Did you want to reassign multimedia keys? or is it something less exotic
[11:55] <abhay> so 2048
[11:55] <Desh> Ah, :(, Ubuntu made my swap 2.89GB
[11:55] <lassegs> i cant find my .screenrc file. i thought it was supposed to be in /home/user/ ?
[11:56] <Desh> Swap is like the diskspace left for the OS to use when RAM is running low, no?
[11:56] <abonilla> hey, I installed dapper with Flight 5 CD and I can't get grub to be correctly installed... I think it is in the mbr or /boot but the system is not booting. I can't even see the grub screen. But If i boot with the CD and choose the last option, boot from primary HD, it works.
[11:56] <abhay> Menza: swap space is virtual memory
[11:56] <abonilla> I already apt-get update -dist upgrade.. etc
[11:56] <Desh> How do I use gparted to resize my partitions?
[11:56] <_chaOS_> hi all
[11:56] <IIIEars> Desh,  Give a google foe linux "swappiness" for some nice tips and info.
[11:56] <jewel1212> does anyone here have the game tremulous working? cause when I run it, the game can't find my "libSDL-1.2.so.0", any suggestions?
[11:57] <deep_> hello _chaOS_
[11:57] <soundray> lassegs: it doesn't exist by default. You have to create it.
[11:57] <Desh> I wanted to take a few mb's from swap and divide up hda1 for Linux and Windows.
[11:57] <bimberi> abonilla: is your bios set to boot off HDD at all?
[11:57] <MenZa> ah abhay.
[11:57] <lassegs> soundray: well thats stupid. thx
[11:57] <_chaOS_> Need HELP INSTALLING UBUNTU ON MULTI-BOOT SYSTEM
[11:57] <_chaOS_>  having a multi-boot  (WinXP + Fedora) system, what caution do i need to excercise while installing UBUNTU..
[11:57] <abhay> pong MenZa
[11:57] <abhay> !caps
[11:57] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:57] <abonilla> bimberi: yeah, CDROM then HDD i disabled PXE etc
[11:57] <niki> !dvd
[11:57] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:57] <Dial_tone> Desh: It should be self explanatory but it probably doesn't work with partitions that are in use
[11:57] <bbrazil> lassegs: you don't have one by default
[11:58] <Desh> Dial_tone, yeah, thought so, :-/.
[11:58] <IIIEars> !ubotu seveas
[11:58] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:58] <bimberi> abonilla: hm, not sure then if it boots via the cd you'd think it would boot directly :/
[11:58] <soundray> lassegs: it's not stupid at all. You can 'cp /etc/screenrc /home/user/.screenrc' and make your user-personal adjustments there.
[11:58] <bimberi> !grub
[11:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:58] <Desh> Is there some type of partion editor that I can use from CD?
[11:58] <sid> I have a logitech marble 4 button mouse, how do I change what the two little buttons do?
[11:58] <lassegs> soundray: then it makes sense
[11:58] <abonilla> bimberi: exactly. I'm lost too. I did grub-install /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda and same thing...
[11:58] <bimberi> Desh: the LiveCD has gparted on it
[11:58] <IIIEars> !logitech
[11:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about logitech - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:58] <deep_> _chaOS_: Check in at ubuntuforums.
[11:58] <IIIEars> doh!
[11:58] <bimberi> *Desktop CD
[11:59] <_chaOS_> deep_: thanks..
[11:59] <spades> desh ultimatebootcd.com or something like that if you want a no frills cd
[11:59] <spades> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[11:59] <deep_> _chaOS_: noproblems. :)
[12:00] <Desh> Thanks peoples/
[12:00] <IIIEars> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188302 - logitech mice
[12:00] <crazy4ubuntu> hi all
[12:00] <noname> I've a question. I've installed ubuntu for the first time and I'm trying to use apt-get but everytime I wrote exemple apt-get install unrar it gives me this noname@noname-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:00] <noname> Reading package lists... Done
[12:00] <noname> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:00] <noname> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:00] <noname> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:00] <noname> is only available from another source
[12:00] <noname> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[12:00] <abonilla> !paste
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)