=== fred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A62803.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell_ [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@cpe-24-94-53-197.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:18] hiya Hobbsee!!! [03:18] ;p [03:18] How do I downgrade libxine-main1 version 1.1.2 to 1.1.1? [03:18] hi nixternal [03:18] do i want my uni results? [03:19] sure [03:19] hehe [03:19] i have no clue how to downgrade [03:19] This updated package isn't working out at all for me. =/ [03:19] beside removing and installing the older version [03:19] Guess something went wrong at compile time. [03:19] then creating a holdfile in the ~/ telling adept and apt-get to no install the upgrade [03:20] omeow: go to /var/cache/apt/archives and dpkg -i the deb you want [03:20] aha [03:22] screensaver works [03:22] woohoo [03:22] good job Hobbsee === Hobbsee kicks her uni site [03:24] Exam Results available 18 July [03:24] oh they suck. i hope they fix estudent before that. === Hobbsee goes off to breakfast, and work. === jjesse [i=user@69-87-140-105.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.53.154] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:34] imbrandon: ping [05:35] hey freeflying|away [05:35] robotgeek: hi [05:36] i need to start work on Edgy docs [05:36] robotgeek: have you a dapper pbuilder on you ibook now? [05:36] nope. [05:37] i am sitting on a weak wireless connection from a neighbor [05:38] robotgeek: cool, I wanna help, but I'm not good at English :) [05:39] freeflying: no issues. i just moved to a new city (this week) [05:39] robotgeek: heh, I was too about 3 weeks ago [05:40] nice freeflying [05:41] Now I'm living in Beijing now, have you ever heard of BeiJing, China? :) [05:42] freeflying: i am from India. of course, i've heard of beijeing [05:42] beijing [05:42] i also have couple of chinese friends [05:42] cool [05:43] you probably have not heard of Huntsville, Alabama :) [05:43] heh :) [05:43] just know Alabama [05:44] :) [05:44] I knew a song about Alanbama, I can sing it :) [05:46] lemme guess. lynryd skynard? === robotgeek knows that one song about alabama too :) [05:47] (but I forgot the name) [05:48] "sweet home alabama"? [05:48] yup [05:48] " I came from Alanbama with my benju on my knee" [05:49] "Oh Susana...." ;) [05:49] yep [05:56] hahahaha [05:57] ty freeflying for that laugh, i needed it bigtime === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.51.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR [n=Pascal@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.51.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pounk [n=pounkf@dsl-144-12.aei.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:41] hi all [08:42] greetings! === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:44] hi raphink :) [08:45] hi Hobbsee === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-153.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:08] dekorator should have a better package description in edgy. It isn't much of a 'KDE Theme manager', it's more like a 'Window decoration theme manager'. [10:09] uniq: want to give us the better description? [10:10] uniq: i have to go out, but if you do, email it to hobbsee@kubuntu.org === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-235-97.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD9E281F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings - Next meeting on July 17 at 13:00 UTC === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Sun Jul 9 17:45:23 2006 === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings - Next meeting on July 17 at 13:00 UTC === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Sun Jul 9 17:45:23 2006 === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings - Next meeting on July 17 at 13:00 UTC === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Sun Jul 9 17:45:23 2006 === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings - Next meeting on July 17 at 13:00 UTC === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Sun Jul 9 17:45:23 2006 === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings - Next meeting on July 17 at 13:00 UTC === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Sun Jul 9 17:45:23 2006 === toma is now known as toma_ === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.53.154] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-224-46.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:42] hi all [01:44] imbrandon: know how to get on the backports team? wonder what it involves [01:44] !backports [01:44] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports [01:44] Hobbsee, dunno but i would be very interested [01:44] maybe poke crimsun [01:44] and ask [01:45] or jdong [01:45] hey toma_ [01:45] hey Hobbsee [01:47] heya toma_ [01:47] hey imbrandon [01:47] (i'm only here on commercial breaks of the formula 1) [01:47] toma_: hehe! who's winning? [01:48] it starts in 12 minutes [01:48] ah [01:49] besides Hobbsee me/you/freeflying? do psudeo backports on kubuntu.org hehe [01:50] imbrandon: well that's true. hope you've got plenty of bandwidth. [01:50] Hobbsee, hehe why is that ? === Hobbsee runs "space" on voyager. [01:51] ahh [01:51] space? [01:51] imbrandon: i copied the kdebase binaries and source from yoru machine to Ridd*ell's last night :) [01:51] the fix works :) [01:51] nice [01:51] space = alias for df -h -T iirc [01:51] i setup Seveas amd64 build machine [01:51] hehe ncie :) === Seveas is already using it for building [01:52] ahh if you need more space , there should be 100~ GB on there [01:52] i can give ya more [01:52] same for you Seveas ther is 10gb in your atm but i can add more at any time ( has plenty of hdd space ) [01:53] plus i stole Seveas's smile [01:53] imbrandon: hehe. i see you havent tested out my pbuilder stuff yet :) [01:54] Hobbsee, not yes been busy setting up a ppc box and edgy on a amd64 box [01:54] s/yes/yet [01:54] imbrandon: hehe nice :) [01:54] soon i'm gonna need a data center heheh , Seveas you me and freeflying all building on boxes here [01:54] lol [01:55] imbrandon: you can use that fix for kdebase, if you want. it's working here (i copied it ot my harddrive too last night) [01:55] Hobbsee, btw if you just temp need to store large files /media/vm-storage is my "scratch box" [01:55] put what ever there [01:56] imbrandon: it's in /var/cache/pbuilder/dapper/result [01:56] ok cool i'll install it now [01:56] imbrandon: does that have web access? [01:56] is it getting pushed to kubuntu.org sometime ? [01:56] imbrandon: yeah, once the ftp of that gets fixed, etc [01:56] does what have webaccess ? [01:57] yea /media/vm-storage is a mount on voyager [01:57] if thats what you mean [01:57] imbrandon: wherever i can copy big files to. [01:57] wasnt what i was meaning, let me think on that. [01:57] hehe ok [01:58] /dev/sda4 ext3 48G 4.7G 41G 11% /media/vm-storage [01:58] ^ thats on voyager [01:58] seveas is on birdofprey but i can give him access to other mounts too if needed [02:01] imbrandon: which is birdofprey? amd64, i take it [02:01] yea voyage is i386 birdoypry is amd64 and shuttlepod is ppc [02:01] right [02:03] omg do i need all those debs installed ? [02:03] heh [02:03] are they all safe ? === Hobbsee raises an eyebrow [02:05] imbrandon: actually, only kdesktop*.deb got updated with a fix, the rest just got rebuilt. [02:05] ahh ok === Hobbsee installed all of them === imbrandon will still test them out [02:05] yea [02:07] imbrandon: the fix works, i end up constantly wondering why my screen goes blank every once in a while. [02:07] lol [02:07] brb installed, gonna restart kde === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon waits for kwin to crash [02:11] heh [02:11] btw Seveas i forgot to mention you can reboot that box at anytime if needed ( not like reboots are nessesary in linux ) like if you install new kernel etc and all should come up smooth [02:13] imbrandon: does that apply to voyager too? i expect it would [02:13] NOOO [02:13] hehe [02:14] i use voyager, too i put seveas on his own box with nothing else on it === Seveas installs spamscripts on that box [02:14] haha [02:14] haha [02:14] good idea, Seveas! [02:14] Seveas: mind sending them to me, so i can stick them on voyager? [02:15] seveas64 ( vm on birdofprey ) i dont even have access to [02:15] hahaha [02:16] Seveas: how secure would it be for me to dump my entire ~/.gnupg onto voyager, so i can sign from there? is there anyway to make it safe enough to be viable? [02:16] Hobbsee, i can move you to a vm too if you want total control [02:16] heh, no thanks :P [02:16] Hobbsee, if your private key is encrypted it's safe enough [02:17] Seveas: ah, is it encrypted by default? [02:17] 128 at leaste should be [02:17] if you have to type your password to use the key, it's encrypted [02:18] okay, cool, yep [02:18] Hobbsee, think of it like this, i have __MY__ key in ~/ on voyager [02:18] of course i do :P [02:18] [22:17] Okay, so ten out of ten for style, but minus several millions for good thinking, yeah? [02:18] then it is all in the entropy of your passphrase or in the ability of the cracker to read the 'keyboard' [02:18] true === imbrandon hugs vmware and xen === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ pokes Seveas [02:23] oh noes [02:23] 2 hobbsees! === imbrandon runs ... then trips over cat5 cables [02:23] Seveas: Yes, double trouble! === Seveas runs and is happy he uses wifi === Hobbsee_ points imbrandon to his wifi card. have you got it back yet, btw? [02:24] heh yea actualy i got it today === Hobbsee_ drops a large gong on Seveas' head. [02:24] nice :) === Hobbsee_ wonders why nickcolour.pl doesnt work. [02:24] becouse its perl nvm [02:24] darn irssi users [02:25] imbrandon: i've seen it work on ajmitch's machine, it just doesnt work here.. [02:25] i konw i was just teasin [02:25] if its on voyager might make sure that perl is installed at all LOL === fred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [02:26] '/me tries not to use perl when he can get away with php or python [02:26] imbrandon: it's local [02:26] imbrandon: ack, how do i reattach a session? [02:26] screen -R [02:26] ah, nice : [02:26] ) [02:29] ah :) [02:29] how clever :) [02:29] i just switched the screen session from a virtual terminal to a console [02:29] pity that nickcolour.pl script doesnt work [02:29] heh [02:33] You know that not everybody will be able to see that smiley, imbrandon? [02:33] omeow: works in both windows here... [02:34] omeow, like ? but thats ok, its just a smile [02:34] If someone has a font that doesn't have that character you're screwed. [02:35] isnt it utf8 or something? [02:35] It is. But it also relies on the font. [02:35] ah well no biggie, but yea its utf8 i think [02:35] In any case, doesn't matter much, just saying. === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:39] heh yea thanks omeow , i figured as much but i'm not really that worried as i said its only a smile === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:40] this is screwy. i dont think the scripts are loading properly. === pygi__ [n=pygi@83-131-250-202.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:09] Hi all [03:09] moins [03:11] hi freeflying [03:12] hey Hobbsee imbrandon [03:13] imbrandon: would u like build a package for ppc for me? :) [03:13] sure === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ tests now === Hobbsee pokes Hobbsee_ [03:14] freeflying, what pkg ? [03:14] hi Hobbsee_ [03:14] ooh! === imbrandon pokes Hobbsee_ too [03:14] imbrandon: zhcon, hope you can backport it from edgy to dpper [03:15] zhcon ok you want me to just grab the packge from edgy and buld it for dapper ppc ? [03:16] yep [03:16] kk will do, i'll ping ya when i finish it [03:16] thx [03:20] /part === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #kubuntu-devel ["ubuntu-motu"] [03:23] hrm afk a few [03:23] er [03:23] hmmm === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:26] bbq, bye all === fred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma_ [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] [03:27] Hobbsee_: where are you? [03:27] oh good [03:37] :p [03:39] :P at Tm_T [03:42] sorry folks, but I leave this channel until I'm ready to do my part ;/ -> === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has left #kubuntu-devel ["-"] === Hobbsee_ [n=hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:42] Hobbsee_: boo! [03:42] Hobbsee_: boo! === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:54] imbrandon_: ping? [03:54] pongy [03:54] err pong [03:55] Hobbsee: sup ? [03:55] imbrandon_: see PM [03:56] heh you probbly pmd my other box [03:56] imbrandon_: i PM'd imbrandon_ === fred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@210.4.59.199] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:24] moins [04:25] Hobbsee: RUN [04:25] lol === Hobbsee runs quickly [04:26] hi nixternal [04:26] hiya Hobbsee === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-41-67.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:54] ugirl: okay then... [05:54] Hobbsee: hey [05:54] heya :P [05:55] Hobbsee: it's an AI bot for #ubuntu-cn [05:55] ah right.. [05:55] so, if you have any questions, plz ask ugirl :) === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.37.70] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:08] hi apachelogger [06:08] heya Hobbsee [06:08] apachelogger: ohhh...you're the apachelogger that did the kopete debs. hope i didnt thrash your changes by accident. [06:09] Hobbsee: nah, you were faster than I was ;-) [06:09] didn't even had a package when you already had it in revu ^^ [06:09] apachelogger: heh. mind emailing me when you're going to change something? i seem to get stuff quicker into the repos. [06:09] friends in high places, and all [06:09] apachelogger: i live in this channel - i find out many interesitn ghtings :P [06:09] aye ;-) [06:10] actually, add whatever debdiff's you do in there too, so we can keep track of it, rather than goign "oops, i wonder what changes apachelogger made, because i think i just thrashed them. oh well" === Hobbsee taps her fingers on the keyboard [06:11] wish imbrandon's machine was up. [06:11] i should ask him to do his maintenence stuff later or something :P [06:11] or maybe go to bed earlier. [06:13] apachelogger: FYI, kopete's in main now, in edgy, so you need to poke core devs to upload, not just motus. [06:13] (grumble grumble. just when i'd be able to upload whenever i liked) [06:14] ahhh, more work :P [06:14] hehe === Hobbsee will clearly have to go for core dev at some point. [06:15] yay. camorama compiled. === fred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === keyne [n=fred@blacklight.homeip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os [n=My8os@ppp138-148.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-139-242.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === fred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.37.70] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-140-90.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-49-156.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:17] ok dev's, here you go [10:18] glutInit <- im trying to compile a package and it says i don't have it..i have installed the libglut3 and libglut3-dev packages and still..says no glutInit..where is it hiding? === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:18] package im trying to compile is 'screenKast' [10:20] are you sure it actually needs v3.x? [10:20] note the difference between freeglut3-dev and libglut3-dev [10:22] well...i have both installed [10:23] checking for glutInit in -lglut... no [10:23] configure: error: *** glut missing - please install glut development package *** [10:23] that is the issue there [10:23] normally you don't want both. [10:23] can you stash the config.log somewhere public? [10:24] i can paste it, or i can host it on buntudot if you want to look at it [10:24] pastebin it [10:24] [10:24] either way [10:24] k [10:24] one sec [10:25] !pastebin [10:25] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things) === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:27] http://www.buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/tmp [10:27] hrmm [10:28] http://www.buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/ [10:28] there sorry === Dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:39] nixternal: [10:39] yes [10:40] nixternal: what is this? /usr/local/lib/libinstrudeo.so: undefined reference to `av_dbl2int' [10:40] instrudeo, it was the package that had to be compiled and installed prior to screenkast [10:41] http://sourceforge.net/projects/libinstrudeo [10:41] that is where that comes from [10:42] but why is it looking in /usr/local/lib/ ? [10:42] hrmm..don't know [10:42] did you install it on your system? [10:43] having it installed as such as causing configure to bomb because ld is bailing [10:43] yes [10:43] ahhh [10:43] is causing^ [10:43] so libinstrudeo needs to be installed with ./configure --path=/usr/lib/ ? [10:43] or...ln -s it to /usr/lib [10:44] --prefix=/usr [10:44] prefix yes [10:44] build in clean chroots or pbuilder and /usr [10:44] I hope you're doing this in a chroot? [10:44] no no..im instlaling it on my system [10:44] not packaging or even trying until i play around with it [10:44] well, if I had to walk back up the stack, I'd say you need to fix libinstrudeo [10:44] it installed fine on my suse box [10:44] k [10:44] i can do that really quick [10:45] it's bailing on those symbols stated in the config.log [10:49] /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../../lib/libinstrudeo.so: undefined reference to `av_dbl2int' [10:50] right, so you need to fix libinstrudeo [10:50] what is the propper way of fixing it? [10:50] that depends how it's configured and compiled [10:51] originally just done with ./configure [10:51] which was a bad move on my part for not offering up the --path [10:51] --prefix [10:52] hmm. http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=42637 [10:52] maybe we should contact that guy and see if we can channel his energies for good [10:52] Riddell: i seen that earlier [10:52] he is in the bug reports on it [10:52] that is hobbsee's fix i believe [10:53] what about the guy that has been posting on his blog about "fixing printing on Kubuntu" we should channel that's guys energy as well :) [10:53] darwin bautista is his name [10:53] heh [10:53] im going to channel my energy on some bbq...back in a few [10:53] jjesse: the trouble with Kurt is he's a great deal better at complaining than he is at coding [10:54] and i mean that in the nicest possible way [10:57] nice, he has a kopete package w/ Jingle support :) [11:04] Riddell: grin i know lots of people that way :) [11:04] mmm bbq sounds good can you send some my way nixternal? === toma_ [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:09] it was good [11:09] is the h in khelpcenter capitalized? [11:09] so is it KHelpCenter or KHelpcenter or what is the spelling === jjesse not currenlty on kubuntu box [11:10] KHelpCenter [11:10] had to look hard for that [11:10] it is actually labeled everywhere as 'KDE Help Center', and if you look at the about>license agreement, then you will see the 'KHelpCenter' [11:18] needs to be renamed for 4.0 [11:18] KDE Help Center is lot more meanful [11:18] Riddell: Jannick has Seen The Light now [11:18] apachelogger: i refer to it as KDE Help Center but name the actual application name [11:18] bad help center! mean! [11:19] toma_: oh? [11:19] Riddell: see last paragraph mof his last mail from 16.15 [11:19] 16.25 [11:21] looking promising :) [11:24] What is considered the most annoying thing for new users when they've installed, Kubuntu? [11:24] (I already think I know the answer, just curious to what other people think.) === verwilst [n=verwilst@d54C1EB55.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:29] networking? [11:29] mp3? [11:29] dvds? [11:33] Perhaps I should poll the questions in #kubuntu a bit. But I think that the biggest thing that is annoying people is the fact that it doesn't play mp3 and other proprietary formats on a fresh install. [11:34] not much we can do about that I'm afraid [11:35] although universe by default will be nicer [11:35] It doesn't necesarily have to be shipping with these format supports. But I do think that it would help if the information about this is very clearly presented. [11:35] I think users are quick to label these things as bugs. [11:36] oh and amarok's "would you like to install the mp3 encoder" will help too [11:36] could do with some testing though [11:36] s/en/de/ [11:37] You could for example create a helpfile on the desktop or something similar that runs on first boot. [11:37] gack nothing should run on first boot :) [11:37] omeow: those are documentated a lot in the official docs, the official ubuntu book and the wiki pages [11:37] Why not? [11:38] What do you suggest using then? [11:38] the documentation :) [11:38] That's not good enough if you ask me. Just watch at how many people come into #kubuntu asking for help on mp3 support. [11:39] Sure it's described in the documentation, but for some reason it's not being read. [11:43] If everybody is against the "first run" thing, would it be a bad idea to create a text-file/html file named something like "missing-multimedia-support" which explains to the user why kubuntu ships without support for proprietary formats and how they can enable this? [11:43] then how would that be different then the exisiting documentation? [11:43] It would be on the desktop, something the users see instantly. [11:44] the help documetnation is available as soon as you start up konqi === kwwii [n=kwwii@194.121.21.240] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:45] evening [11:45] That's true, but it does take a few clicks before you get to the section about mp3 support, etc. [11:45] Riddell: is the crystal in kubuntu the same as in KDE SVN? [11:45] And the next button only talks of konqueror. [11:46] I just think that that bit of information should be displayed even more clearly to the user. [11:49] Furthermore, installing xine-extracodecs doesn't quite make your machine fully support mp3, it makes it support playback, but libtunepimp still needs to be recompiled or downloaded from a secondary source in order to make amarok support idv3 for mp3 tag writing. [11:51] kwwii: yes [11:51] Riddell: cool, thakns [11:51] thanks [11:52] omeow: libtunepimp in edgy has an mp3 package, I should make the amarok install script install that [11:52] omeow: maybe we should make our release note have some "common initial tasks" in them [11:54] You could do that. But I don't think many new linux users read release notes. === fred [n=fred@73.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [11:56] arg crimsun, i am still getting the same error..removed all instances of libinstrudeo, reinstalled it --prefix=/usr and i still get the same exact error === h3sp4wn [n=samw@unaffiliated/h3sp4wn] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:57] Hi has anyone packaged or is attempting to package libinstrudeo ? [11:58] lol [11:58] arg crimsun, i am still getting the same error..removed all instances of libinstrudeo, reinstalled it --prefix=/usr and i still get the same exact error [11:58] sorry for the doubling up there [11:58] h3sp4wn: i had asked that question right b4 you joined [11:58] nixternal: if you're getting that error, then its compilation structure is broken [11:58] It builds fine [11:59] I just need to find out what is needed to be installed [11:59] heh, at least it isn't /usr/local/lib anymore [11:59] no, it doesn't build fine [11:59] it's /broken/ [11:59] h3sp4wn: it is the reason that screenkast will not install === kwwii [n=kwwii@194.121.21.240] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [12:00] i.e., just because it creates a library doesn't mean that library links correctly, and if it doesn't, then it's broken [12:00] undefined reference to `av_dbl2int' <- there are 6 of those, av_ errors in the log [12:01] crimsun: I am using dh_make and I don't get compilation errors [12:01] those are ffmpeg symbols, nixternal [12:01] k [12:01] h3sp4wn: please read what I typed above. [12:01] crimsun: it shows that it compiles fine and installs fine [12:01] arg [12:02] sorry crimsun...that was for h3sp4wn [12:02] no, it actually shows that it's broken. [12:02] crimsun: the log i posted was the 'screenkast' log and not the libinstrudeo log..you want to see that as well? [12:03] nixternal: not necessary. Are you building against libavformat-dev, libavcodec-dev, and libpostproc-dev? [12:03] im not no [12:04] to do things properly for Ubuntu, libinstrudeo needs to contain those symbols from libavcodec-dev and libavformat-de [12:04] v [12:05] ahhh === larson9999 [n=larson9@CPE-72-128-126-220.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel