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ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo12:08
gatekeeperDesh: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-610449081131189823612:08
freddesh the previous linux about qemu might interest you12:09
fredDesh: i did it successfully12:09
DeshIt's to run windows within ubuntu?12:09
gatekeeperyep good plan :-)12:10
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fredDesh: yep, this is a qemu solution, the video is something different. up to you to know what you want to do12:10
gatekeeperDesh: video is dual boot12:11
DeshYeah that's the thing, my Linux will not run ATI gfx. :(12:11
fredDesh: oh so you likely want a 'native' window and the dual boot solution is likely better12:12
DeshYeah, off to partition my drive! :)12:12
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larson9999i think we should have an ati burning party12:14
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gatekeeperfred: do you just install qema then install windows?12:14
domabrlo all12:14
fredgatekeeper: yep, pretty much like the webpage explained12:14
fredi dont remember doing anything 'smart'12:15
h3sp4wnIf you want qemu you need 0.81 for it to work properly12:15
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fredi think i got the kqemu from the qemu website and the qemu from ubuntu repository12:15
fredoh i remmeber soem issue for compiling qemu... like qemu complains about gcc4 so i didnt compile and tried the one from ubuntu repositor12:16
fredi have no other memory about this :)12:16
Matt-BRHello, is possible remove the "Switch User" menu from K menu?12:16
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h3sp4wnfred: If you read the kqemu site it says it works much much better with qemu 0.8.112:16
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fredh3sp4wn: in which way it is better ?12:17
gatekeeperfred: looks very straight forward, might have a go one day12:17
h3sp4wnfred: Runs alot faster (its in the faq of kqemu)12:17
Deshk3b can burn images to CD, no?12:17
h3sp4wnfred: I backported it all from debian sid12:17
fredyep very straighforward, and dont forget to run kqemu before starting the install :)12:18
fredso the 40min will be 3h long :)12:18
fredh3sp4wn: ohhh so maybe i should try to compile it12:18
fredthanks for the tops12:18
nekromaanevening, i build my own ati fglrx drivers, module-assistant a-i went good, i changed xorg.conf, but he shows me the mesa driver? do i have to link something?12:19
DeshWith XP and Ubuntu dual booting, would you reccomend Using NTLRD or Grub?12:24
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DeshIf I make XP capable of readina nd writing to ext2 and ext3, and since Ubuntu can do that with NTFS, then even if I dual boot, theoretically all my files are available to both OS's, right? like all my music, etc.12:31
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pygiimbrandon: poke, you have time?12:32
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Philip5Desh: yes but only safe to read and not to write cross the filessystems12:35
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DeshSo if I acquired songs on XP but I keep music on the Linux partition then it would not be safe to tranfer them over?12:36
pascalWhat is the device name for a bluetooth dongle? (according to kmobiletools it should be /dev/rfcomm, but I cant find that)12:36
DeshLike make XP write them to Linux partition.12:36
fredDesh: linux has trouble writing on ntfs12:36
pygipygi@kubuntu:~$ kbuildsycoca12:37
pygikbuildsycoca running...12:37
pygiReusing existing ksycoca12:37
pygikio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!12:37
fredwell i saw a 'solution' once using the window kernel dll under linux12:37
pygithoughts? :)12:37
fredi dont remember the name12:37
DeshAh I see, if I had files on an ntfs partition and I am using Linux, would i be safe to copy paste them to Linux from NTFS?12:37
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rOObDesh, yes12:37
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DeshCool, thanks.12:37
rOObDesh, just never write to ntfs from linux12:37
fredDesh: yes linux can read ntfs without issue12:38
rOObit will corrupt the data12:38
DeshAnd what about writing to ext2 and ext3 from XP?12:38
BreuI'm with problems to connect to the internet. Can anyone help?12:38
rOObDesh, afaik xp doesnt see ext312:38
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pygirOOb: it can see it :)12:38
DeshrOOb: there is a file system plugin thing I found that lets it.12:38
rOObpygi, its been a while seince ive used windows12:38
rOObahh k ....know i know ;D12:39
pygirOOb: I never used it :)12:39
rOOb*now i know12:39
omeowIsn't there a way to flag a package to not upgrade for a while? Every time libtunepimp gets updated I lose mp3 tagging support.12:39
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Deshhttp://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm - read only, darn12:39
BreuIt's a dial-up connection. The drivers look fine, but can't connect more than 6 seconds12:41
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fredhttp://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/#ext2fsd <- desh with write12:42
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fredthe end of the page contains othe ralternative with rw12:43
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knapperAnyone here use kroller?12:48
alex_ndcHi people ... does anyone know how I can override the dhcp auto-generared /etc/resolv.conf ...12:48
alex_ndcto set another nameserver than the ones that are automatically configured, that is12:48
centyxknapper: yea12:48
angmaryou could just edit the file manually12:49
angmarsudo nano /etc/resolv.conf12:49
alex_ndcyes, but when I restart the file is overwriten12:49
centyxknapper: i put it on my wife's pc earlier this morning12:49
angmarthere is some option you can pass to dhcp for that...12:49
angmarlet me think...12:49
knappercentyx: is there a way to change the icons/applications of it?12:49
knapperon it*12:50
centyxknapper: yea. it's all in the kroller.conf12:50
centyxknapper: you specify the app and the icon to use for it12:50
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centyxknapper: it's a pretty simple config file12:51
knappercentyx: alright thanks!12:51
centyxknapper: np12:51
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ryanakcawhen I go aptitude install courier-imap courier-imap-s01:04
ryanakcawhen I go aptitude install courier-imap courier-imap-ssl courier-pop courier-pop-ssl... I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/89178 ... what's going on?01:05
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aztunanyone knows if there is any mirror for plf packages?? two mirrors I know are down...  :(01:10
centyxaztun: what package are you looking for?01:10
aztunnot sure if its on plf01:11
aztunjust wanted to try01:11
centyxtry debian-multimedia or cipherfunk?01:11
aztunbut mirrors are down01:11
centyxi don't know if they'll have it, but it's worth a try i guess01:12
aztuni tried centyx01:12
centyxsorry, i duno where else01:12
aztuni tried seveas, cipherfunk and backports01:13
Seveascentyx, debian-multimedia is a bad idea to use on Ubuntu01:13
Seveasaztun, mountiso is not a package, you simply mount iso files with mount01:14
Seveasmount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint01:14
aztunI know Seveas01:14
aztunim talking about this01:15
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centyxi have a strange problem w/ konqueror. i don't expect anyone to be able to give me the answer, but maybe someone can help give me an ide of how to find the answer. first, i'm trying to view quicktime or real media trailers at movies.yahoo.com. it works for one user in kubuntu, but not for any other users on the same system... until, that is, i copy her .kde directory over to another user's home directory. then it works for him too. i've compared konquerorrc an01:16
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centyxmaybe a better question, is there a settings editor for kde, similar to the gconf editor for gnome?01:20
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Philip5centyx: doesn't that user have some locally installed plugins for browsers in his homedir?01:23
centyxPhilip5: nope01:24
centyxPhilip5: checked there first01:24
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centyxPhilip5: it's not getting that far, on the site. it's crashing before it gets to the point where it tries to load the media i believe.01:25
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timonatorcan cdrom drives read playstation 1 cds? the ones with the black backsides?01:25
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centyxPhilip5: i could be wrong about that... but i don't think i am01:26
Russeli just tried the new release livecd and at last my suspend on desktop is working01:26
Russelis there a nice app for this and the same script/source in kubuntu?01:26
Philip5centyx: well it's hard to say from here... but that there is some kind of plug or symlink to one somewhere is my best guess01:26
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centyxPhilip5: i'll double check, but i really don't think that's the issue. thanks tho01:27
centyxPhilip5: no, there are no plugins or symlinks to any in there, for certain01:28
Philip5centyx: are you just copying konquerorrc to the new user and it works?01:29
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michel_How does one control the fan of a laptop?01:35
michel_My laptop is overheating01:36
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skavengewhy dont any of my changes to login manager work? regardless of what changed there the login screen is still the default kubuntu one .. how do i change it?01:38
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centyxPhilip5: no, I'm copying the entire .kde directory01:46
centyxPhilip5: but i've done a find on the directory searching for all the plugin extensions and there aren't any01:46
centyxPhilip5: I think earlier today in my madness i did a grep -ir "plugin" and compared those files, but I don't remember now. i've been awake for too long ;-s01:47
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centyxPhilip5: same w/ other key words and phrases01:47
centyxPhilip5: i even went mad and made a diff of the two directories and started to go through it, but i gave up on that01:48
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centyxPhilip5: too much data01:48
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Philip5and the thing is that browser plugins are rarely stored in .kde subdirs01:50
centyxthere is one folder in there for them01:50
centyxi saw it earlier01:50
centyx( it was empty )01:51
knappercentyx: hey, I got the progs/ icons changed (kroller), but the icons are real ugly. what size do they need to be?01:51
centyxknapper: i made my wife's 32/48 , but if i was using it, i'd have them at 16/3201:51
mauidoes someone know sth about the spca5xx webcam driver?01:52
knappercentyx ok ill try that\01:52
centyxmaui: not i, unfortunately01:52
centyxknapper: 16/32 is pretty small01:52
centyxi hear a chainsaw outside01:53
centyxthat's not comforting, for some reason01:53
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centyxi was serious about the chainsaw though01:55
centyxan explosion01:55
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centyxi really hate to have to go copying this .kde directory around from place to place01:56
centyxand then merging in my personal settings01:57
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centyxthe explosion was just thunder01:58
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centyxone more try02:00
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diezareDo anyone know if is it possible to install the SMP by apt-get install?02:02
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knapperWhere can I find firefox's bookmarks?02:03
unix_infidelknapper: man find.02:05
unix_infidelsomething like....`find /home/username -name bookmarks*`02:05
knapperwe'll their located on another hd02:06
teknoprepfor a free f'n swearing mf test02:07
unix_infidelknapper: then change /home/username to whatever disk's mount point you think the bookmark is on.02:07
teknoprepplease come to other channels where swearing is permited02:07
teknoprepand the idea of freenode stays true02:07
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Hawkwindknapper: In ~/.mozilla/firefox02:11
LjLteknoprep: *please* make your views clear (if you really have to) in #kubuntu-offtopic, since that's offtopic in this channel.02:11
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goshuahey, has anyone tried dapper live cd on a mac?02:21
goshuai can't get the wireless to work for some reason :(02:21
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Pappy_hello all02:22
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Jeff_can someone tell me, when RSS feeds are downloaded via akergator are the feeds actually downlaoded to my machine (like a POP mail messgae)?02:26
goshuajeff: i don't think they will stick around like a pop wil02:27
goshuathey just open up in akregator, or konqueror02:27
Jeff_ok, thks hard to find any good info on the app02:28
goshuawell you mean just the feed ?02:28
Jeff_I mean hard to find info on akregator02:29
goshuait means yeah02:29
Jeff_i knew that02:30
Jeff_im old02:30
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tailsfanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18124 can anyone help me with that02:32
tailsfanI'm trying to compile kasound02:32
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tailsfanand I keep on getting that error message02:33
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geojeffi installed kubuntu-desktop on a just-upgraded dapper system. i get the kubuntu login dialog, but then it starts up in gnome still.  somewhere to chose kde desktop? (it asked me about gdm vs. kdm on the install, and i chose kdm).02:33
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geojeffi meant just-upgraded ubuntu dapper system02:34
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tailsfanI need help with that02:35
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Hawkwindtailsfan: You need to install something like libxorg-dev02:37
Hawkwindtailsfan: Anytime you go off compiling things you need to have the -dev packages installed since they contain the header files02:38
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tailsfanwill libx11-dev count?02:46
jimmy__sup folks02:46
jimmy__I have a dell laptop and I need to get my network card working02:46
jimmy__can anybody help?02:46
Hawkwindtailsfan: That's probably the name of it, yes02:46
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intelikeyhowto kill " 90 ?  S  0:00 [kswapd0]  "  ???02:49
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intelikeycan i rmmod something that would kill that ?02:50
crimsunno, tis a kernel thread02:50
intelikeycan't be killed ehh02:51
crimsunhowever, you could swapoff -a02:51
intelikeythere is no swap ON02:51
crimsunthen you have some pretty horrid memory pressure02:51
jimmy__can anyone help with a network card or is it that hard02:51
Hawkwindjimmy__: State your problem02:52
Hawkwindjimmy__: In detail02:52
timonatorjimmy__: that rimes!02:52
intelikey"horrid memory pressure" ???   what do you mean ?02:52
jimmy__oh yeah02:52
jimmy__I guess it does02:52
crimsunintelikey: why is kswapd bothering you?02:52
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crimsunmaybe I misinterpreted your question02:52
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crimsunkswapd's presence is necessary for normal function02:53
jimmy__I have a dell truemobile 1300 (in a dell 1100 inspiron)02:53
jimmy__and I just need it working02:53
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intelikeycrimsun just trying to tweek all i can out of the system.   i.e. anything running that's not being used should be killed.02:53
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intelikeylike turning off the light when you leave the room.02:54
crimsunright, but that's an essential part of the vm subsystem02:54
crimsunI don't think you want to mess with that.02:54
jimmy__I can see it, but unbuntu wont enable it for more that 1/2 a second02:54
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intelikeywhy would i want a swap daemon running if i never use any swap ???02:54
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crimsunbecause it's not just swapping dirty pages to disk02:55
crimsunit's also in charge of paging period.02:55
intelikeyso your are saying that the kernel "IS" actually using it ?02:56
intelikeynow i really want to kill it.  just to see if i can tell any differance   :)02:56
jimmy__any ideas hawkwind02:57
crimsunthen try it ;-)02:57
intelikeydone did.  haven't found a way to kill it.    now looking for a way to prevent it's starting.02:57
jimmy__hawkwind: I'm new to all this but did xorg and now it works so I think I could prob do this02:58
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stephani install cxoffice AND install FLASH 8.5 Player in it02:59
stephanit works02:59
stephanrealy cool!02:59
stephanwant to write something about in a wiki, but i need a account :(03:00
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crimsunintelikey: to do that, you'd have to change the source and recompile Linux :)03:00
stephanbut there is a little problem, some pages have a flash version test and they say i have no flash installed, no idea how to bypass that03:01
intelikeydon't tempt me.03:01
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jimmy__everytime I install flash it says it 'FAILED'03:01
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fullofyouhey all03:02
fullofyouwhast up03:02
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fullofyouyeah you guys should unban teknoprep so he can help you guys out03:04
fullofyouhe will not swear anymore03:04
WhilAnybody know what xgl and qt4 is all about?03:04
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wolfmanzfullofyou i'm sure with his leet skills he can unban himself lol03:08
fullofyouwho teknoprep03:09
fullofyouyeah i already did03:09
fullofyoubut i am asking nicely03:09
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jimmy__looking for03:11
fullofyouask the question. and you will get it03:11
jimmy__as stated 3 times above.. I have a dell inspiron 1100 (dont laugh)03:12
fullofyoui just joined03:12
jimmy__and a trumobile 1300 network card03:12
fullofyoudo this03:13
jimmy__I need taht card working pretty quick03:13
fullofyouopen konsole03:13
smygis *laugh@jimmy__*03:13
fullofyouso now i have to doit fast?03:13
jimmy__no no03:13
fullofyoujimmy__: open konsole03:13
fullofyoujimmy__: sudo lspci03:13
jimmy__I'm sure I wont keep up with you03:13
jimmy__I just mean I would like it working tonight03:13
fullofyoujimmy__: copy and paste your results into ... rafb.net/paste03:13
fullofyougd it03:14
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fullofyouhey can i like get teknoprep unbanned?03:14
fullofyouhe can do this mad quik03:14
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z2how do I restart kubuntu from the command line ?03:14
fullofyousudo reboot03:14
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intelikeychris what differance is the nickname ?03:14
fullofyoui like my name03:15
smygisz2 sudo shutdown -r -t 1 now03:15
fullofyouirssi over an ssh tunnel or konversation with links i cn click03:15
omeowHow do I downgrade libxine 1.1.2 to 1.1.1?03:15
jimmy__copy and paste everything?03:15
intelikeywould not the default process string be better guys ?    init 603:15
jimmy__more text than expected03:16
fullofyoujimmy__: just copy and paste it all03:16
intelikeyat least everything should shutdown cleanly that way03:16
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fullofyouinit 6 is bad if you are working over ssh03:17
fullofyoubest to use reboot or shutdown -r -t 1 NOW03:17
jimmy__the last command you gave me03:17
fullofyoujimmy__: ?03:17
dr_willisI just slam the alt-ctrl-del keys03:17
jimmy__where do I type that in03:17
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fullofyoujimmy__: type full then hit tab.. then type03:17
fullofyoujimmy__: that way i know you are talking to me03:18
jimmy__fullofyou: ahhh03:18
fullofyoujimmy__: ty03:18
jimmy__fullofyou: cool, I gotcha. This is my second week of Linux03:19
fullofyoujimmy__: that tab thing i just showed you .. its called tab completion03:19
intelikeydr_willis well  i generally  [sysrq] +[alt] +[U]  && [sysrq] +[alt] +[B]     hehhe takes lots longer to type it than it does for the system to actually repost  :)03:19
jimmy__fullofyou: so bare with me03:19
fullofyoujimmy__: you can type in konsole... like... ls then hit tab... and it will bring up all commands that start with ls03:19
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fullofyoujimmy__: just copy and past the results of that lspci into rafb.net/paste03:20
intelikeyit's the next best thing to the old [reset-button]  on the front of the box03:20
fullofyoujimmy__: i will brbi need to screen this irssi so i don't loose it if i looose connection03:20
jimmy__fullofyou: got it03:20
fullofyoujimmy__: brb03:20
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stodgeTo upgrade a new Breezy installation to Dapper, do I just replace breezy with dapper in sources.list?03:22
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ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.03:23
intelikeywell crimsun that and one other kernel string is all the un-approved processes on this box.  [pdflush]     so i guess i'll leave well enough alone rather than trying to get it any 'weller'     thanks for the answer eariler.03:24
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fullofyouok back03:25
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intelikeystodge yes and then    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:25
fullofyouok back jimmy__03:26
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fullofyoujimmy__: did you paset that yet?03:26
intelikeywith a little luck you wont need tech support to get it to boot  :)03:26
jimmy__fullofyou: I typed ls in the konsole03:27
fullofyoujimmy__: nono type lspci03:27
jimmy__fullofyou: oops,     k03:27
fullofyoujimmy__: then paste the results into rafb.net/paste03:27
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intelikeythat being a lappy   lshw might be more useful       just a thought.03:28
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jimmy__fullofyou: yeah thats what confused me, rafb.net is bad command03:29
fullofyoujimmy__: rafb.net/paste   its a website03:29
jimmy__fullofyou: where do I type that?03:29
fullofyoujimmy__: in a web browser03:29
HawkwindThat way new users know it's a website03:29
jimmy__fullofyou: thought you were getting fancy03:29
fullofyoujimmy__: i need you to copy and paste the results of lspci into that helpful link Hawkwind  just gave you03:29
intelikey"Snake[Away] "   sounds like something you might buy in an arosol-can03:30
fullofyouunban teknoprep03:30
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jimmy__doing it now03:30
jimmy__fullofyou: done03:31
fullofyoujimmy__: now give me the link03:31
Hawkwindjimmy__: Paste us the resulting URL03:31
fullofyouthis is ruff03:31
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jimmy__lol, sorry guys03:32
fullofyouNetwork controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 0203:32
Lord_Athurhi all, what's the name of the program used for updating?, it comes by default03:32
fullofyouhe has one of those03:32
HawkwindLord_Athur: adept ?03:32
Lord_AthurI'm using kubuntu 6.0603:32
fullofyouyou have to use the ndiswrapper for that.. lol03:32
jimmy__same here03:32
fullofyoujimmy__: type this in konsole03:32
fullofyoujimmy__: ifconfig03:33
HawkwindLord_Athur: You can do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade as well from CLI03:33
fullofyoujimmy__: then   iwconfig03:33
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fullofyoujimmy__: paste all the results in rafb.net/paste03:33
intelikeyHawkwind he may be asking the name of the update daemon03:33
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Hawkwindintelikey: Yeah I really don't know what he's asking for.  I'm just kind of guessing03:34
fullofyoujimmy__: you gettting this done?03:34
isedei have strange problem with Perl installation - when i am trying to use CPAN command every install ation attempt ends with errors. even Bundle::CPAN. anybody has a n advice?03:35
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Lord_AthurHawkwind, no, adept seems to be a program used for (un)installing, I want to run the one that comes by default, the one that installs updates only.03:35
fullofyoujimmy__: w0ot w0ot w0ot03:35
fullofyoujimmy__: you can do this eas03:36
fullofyoujimmy__: do you have a wep key on your wireless router?03:36
jimmy__fullofyou: sweet03:36
fullofyoujimmy__: or is it no set yet?03:36
jimmy__fullofyou: one prob03:36
fullofyoujimmy__: ?03:36
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Kadranhi, is there is a way that i can open my linux pc from a widows pc through the internet, something like pcanywhere??03:36
jimmy__fullofyou: I am fixing this for my bro-in-law03:37
fullofyoujimmy__: what kind of router is it?03:37
jimmy__he lives 7 houses down from minefull03:37
intelikeyLord_Athur you mean the little tray icon that says you have a bizillion updates waiting to be installed ?03:37
isedeKadran: you can use remote desktop or VNC03:37
fullofyoujimmy__: do you have the wep key or not??03:37
Lord_Athurintelikey, yes03:37
jimmy__fullofyou: Linksys03:37
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fullofyoujimmy__: do you have the wep key?03:38
fullofyoujimmy__: is the router even set up for wep?03:38
intelikeyand you click it and it installs them ?03:38
jimmy__full yes03:38
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jimmy__full yes03:38
fullofyoujimmy__: this is what you have to type in for now... untill you learn the guil tools03:38
intelikeyyeah i have no clue what it's called.   but sudo apt-get upgrade   will do the same thing03:38
Kadranisede: i tried this but nothing appeare in windows, is there is kind of permission that i must make for linux to be able to use remotedesktop from windowS?03:39
intelikeyLord_Athur also if you want to install kernel and libc updates make it   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:40
fullofyoujimmy__: you need to type this into konsole when you are in range of the wireless router03:40
isedei know that mandriva had some easy configuration options - but i normally use TightVNC03:40
isedeor UltraVNC03:40
jimmy__fullofyou:  the laptop I am on was using windows and it worked on the network (if taht helps)03:40
fullofyoujimmy__: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "the sid of the router" key "the wep key"03:40
fullofyoujimmy__: you know what an sid is ?03:40
Kadranok thanks i will try03:40
jimmy__fullofyou:  no03:41
intelikeyvenella upgrade leaves out system packages.  dist- adds them.03:41
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jimmy__fullofyou:  do I need top take the card out to find out?03:41
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Hawkwindfullofyou: Got me why you got kicked03:42
jimmy__fullofyou:  is the sid a # on the wireless card?03:42
fullofyoujumnono its the name you gaave your wireless router03:42
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Hawkwindjimmy__: If it's a linksys router, it's probably 'linksys'  unless it's been changed03:42
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AyidenI am having trouble with the new kubuntu CD I am getting the error when hitting "Click Start or Install" I even get the error when clicking safe graphics. [4294668.330000]  MP-Bios BUg: 8254 timer not connected IO-APIC.03:43
AyidenAny Idea's?03:44
jimmy__full crap so I need to be in range to set it up? (in other words I cant set it up and test it later?)03:44
jimmy__full my house is just out of range of the network03:44
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wolfmanzAyiden did you check the CD to see if it got messed up when burning?03:45
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AyidenI burned it twice and redownloaded etc...03:45
jimmy__fullI'm on my connection now (direct connection)03:45
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AyidenI did not however run the cd check utility03:45
Hawkwindjimmy__: He's gone.  If you used full(hit the tab key) you would see that03:45
wolfmanzrun that03:45
wolfmanzand see what it says03:45
HawkwindAyiden: Did you md5sum the downloaded ISO before burning ?03:46
AyidenI didnt get the error On the test cd's prior to the one before release03:46
Ayidenalright I also tried the dvd as well03:46
jimmy__I do03:46
Ayidengot same error -.-03:46
ShuT-cant help you03:47
ShuT-cant read it :(03:47
ShuT-to sdrink03:47
jimmy__I gotcha03:47
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jimmy__his connection must suck03:47
AyidenOkay well i will check sum it But if thats not it then what do I do?03:47
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jimmy__tahst why cable modem gets my vote03:47
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wolfmanzAyiden if your getting a error message trying feeding that into google maybe someone else has run into your probelm and got a fix for it03:48
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jimmy__Hawkwind: do you know how to fix my wireless network card?03:49
CheeseBurgerManjimmy__: What's wrong with it?03:50
AyidenI found this thread I think ill try it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=111362303:50
jimmy__CheeseBurgerMan: wont connect with the network03:50
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jimmy__CheeseBurgerMan: fresh install of 6.0603:51
CheeseBurgerManWhat card?03:51
jimmy__trumobile 1300   dell03:51
AyidenI have ati 200M though03:52
Ayidenradeon xpress03:52
jimmy__problem is I am doing this for a bro. and the laptop is at my house and not his03:53
jimmy__so I am not on a network03:53
CheeseBurgerManIs there WEP/WPA?03:53
CheeseBurgerManMaybe you should wait until you can actually try if before you attempt fixing it. :P03:53
jimmy__dont know any 3's03:54
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Whilany chance of getting zen for ubuntu?03:54
jimmy__wep/wpa are numbers, right?03:55
Ayidenhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6020.from1152419935;topicseen hmmm or maybe I should try that03:55
AyidenI dont know if I have that setting in the bios tho... hmmm03:56
Ayideni can check...03:56
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jimmy__CheeseBurgerMan: wpa/wep ..... are they numbers?03:57
CheeseBurgerManwep/wpa are wireless encryption.03:58
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jimmy__no there is no encryption03:59
larson9999i'm thinking about installing kubuntu on my wife's laptop and she's got a truemobile 1300, too.  i think03:59
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jimmy__CheeseBurgerMan: shouldnt that make it easier if there is no encryption?04:00
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CheeseBurgerManjimmy__: Yes.04:02
CheeseBurgerManjimmy__: I'm not sure what to do if you aren't actually in range of the network.04:02
jimmy__CheeseBurgerMan: crap04:02
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jimmy__CheeseBurgerMan: I understand.... I will try tomorrow at his house04:03
jimmy__CheeseBurgerMan: thanx for your help04:04
CheeseBurgerManYou're welcome, although I didn't do anything.04:04
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CheeseBurgerManIf you can get on IRC at his house, do so. It'll be much easier when you have all the pieces. :)04:05
jimmy__at least you talked to me, it took me almost all day for just that04:05
jimmy__understood I will be there tomorrow04:05
jimmy__thanx again04:05
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jimmy__question....  KPPP  <----  Is that a program that enables you to talk from pc to phone04:10
unix_infideljimmy__: skype can do that.04:10
LjLjimmy__: no04:11
dr_willisjimmy__,  thats for dialup internet useers04:11
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LjLand, besides the proprietary Skype, many SIP clients can do that, too (you need an account with a SIP provider of course)04:11
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jimmy__does it cost?04:11
jimmy__I thought skype service was free04:12
unix_infideljimmy__: no skype is free.04:12
unix_infidelfor now.04:12
LjLpc to phone?04:12
unix_infidelin the US yes.04:12
jimmy__yes pc to phone04:12
LjLhm won't remain so that long, i smell04:13
jimmy__would that be in the list of programs I can download from Ubuntu?04:13
dr_willisi though pc to pc was free.04:13
larson9999there are cell phones now that you can use with skype and have them ring your phone for tons less than your company would charge04:13
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto04:13
larson9999pc to pc is free, isn't it?04:13
LjLand for a free SIP client on KDE, i suggest WengoPhone, which is now in the repositories. failing that, there's KPhone, Twinkle and KCall04:14
dr_willisi remember Dialpad.com years ago.04:14
larson9999i used skype years ago but now my wife and son just webcam with her family in thailand04:14
jimmy__I remember dialpad started it all, I beleive04:14
jimmy__back in the day04:14
jimmy__it was all free04:14
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larson9999yeah, i used dialpad before skype04:14
jimmy__I called my girlfriend (now wife) with it04:15
dr_willisand the ad-banner-bar at the bottom of the screen - free dialup ISPS :)04:15
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larson9999jimmy__: then it wasn't free at all for you.  rather expensive i'm guessing04:15
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jimmy__larson9999: lol, true...... I'm still paying for it!!!!!!04:15
AyidenOkay I get the same MP-Bios bug even when I try the to check the cd04:16
larson9999kinda like the $1,000 free buffets they give away at casinos04:16
AyidenWhen I pass pci=noappi on boot I get to boot but it stops at hardware drivers etc..04:17
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Ayidenthe cd before the live installer worked fine04:17
LjLi have a nice free number i can *receive* calls from, but not initiate calls. there's been one - two actually - free pc-to-phone services here, but they lasted *really* little04:17
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CheeseBurgerManAyiden: I believe there is an 'Alternate Install CD' with the old text based installer. You may want to try it, if you think the live installer is what's killing you.04:18
AyidenI downloaded it and am trying that next04:18
CheeseBurgerManOK, looks like you don't need me after all. :)04:19
jimmy__dialup is rather choppy04:19
jimmy__cable ir dsl is cool thought to talk04:19
AyidenBut I get this when the kernel boots...04:19
Ayidenso if this doesnt work im doomed...04:19
jimmy__sheesh I cant type04:19
Ayideni dont want to go through the breezy to dapper update i wont wont!!!!!04:20
Ayidenha ha04:20
Ayidenokay well time to burn that iso04:20
CheeseBurgerManhehe, I did. I've never actually tried Ubuquity.04:20
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unix_infidelAyiden: i had the same mentality.04:22
unix_infidelbut i think i might need to soon enough.04:22
AyidenThey expect to support it for the next few years... I just wish it would boot. I mean I have no problems at all with breezy. The dapper cd in beta used to go fine and then the one before the release didnt work and now the release wont work I get the same Mp-bios bug error04:24
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larson9999the cd i burned only booted about 1 out of 5 tries :)04:28
_redondosanyone who made work Xgl and Compiz on Kubuntu ?04:28
DeshHi all! I repartitioned my drive and now have an empty ntfs partition, hda3, which I would like to add to fstab, how do I do this?04:28
larson9999crap, i have to install about 50 devs to get this thing to boot04:29
OOD_redondos: check compiz.net there's a bunch of ways of getting it to work04:29
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OOD_redondos: i haven't had any luck with getting xgl to work in kubuntu, also check channel xgl. they could help you out04:30
_redondosI haven't seen that page.. but I tried with other guides.. and nothing04:30
_redondosahh ok04:30
_redondosit exists...04:30
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_redondoswhich card do you have OOD ?04:31
actinichi is this the windows channel?04:31
OOD_redondos: Geforce FX 5700LR04:31
OODactinic: yes. we do mental checkups here ;)04:32
_redondoswell... I tell you..04:32
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_redondosI could run xgl in root mode04:33
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_redondosthe only effect I could run was... the cube04:33
_redondosto switch like a cube04:34
_redondos(sorry by my english)04:34
_redondosI see.. that some plugins are missing04:34
_redondosplugins that make work the effects like translucency04:35
_redondosand... when I run compiz I lost the windows borders04:35
OODyea i had the same problem04:36
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm04:36
_redondosahh ok04:36
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_redondosI installed app-install-data, it seems that there are some plugins you need04:39
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DaiferasHi. Anyone care to help me out quickly? I'm a complete newb, but should be able to learn easily. I need help setting up my wireless card using ndiswrapper. The problem is that I'm completely unfamiliar with any shell commands, and don't understand how to setup ndiswrapper (though I can, of course, extract it, etc., using the GUI).04:47
DaiferasHi timthelion. Did you happen to see my earlier message? I'm looking for a bit of help.04:50
larson9999Daiferas: well, i think you picked the easiest thing to start with04:51
DaiferasThat's good. :)04:51
larson9999oh wait. maybe not.04:51
larson9999sometime today maybe this compile will finish... how do the gentoo folks manage?04:52
timthelionhave you tried this http://diabolikal.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.7504:53
DaiferasLet me look.04:53
Daiferas... that looks like it may help quite a bit tim. I'll save it to a textfile and try it out in a bit. Thank you!04:54
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larson9999i figure if we all convert one person a month and that person does the same in no time at all the manufactures will have to start shipping drivers.04:55
Daiferasthat'd be pretty nice04:55
larson9999for personal use of course.  i like all the money M$ generates for me at work :)04:56
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DaiferasOk, I'm going to try to get it to work. Thanks again.04:59
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BlackDaggerif I want to patch a system translation, what would I need?05:03
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Whilanybody have an idea to share on how fast qemu is?05:05
OODWhil: from what it says on the website 5-10 times slower than nativ05:06
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OODand with some experimental virtualization support from the cpu, 1-205:07
Steven_Mwhen I try to disconect my router from the outside world, (via the router web interface) in order to do some local network experiments, it kept automatically reconnecting. Is there some "autmatically connect to the internet" setting in linux that i can disable?05:07
Whilood: thats not good.05:07
Whilood: so basically it may not even be worth the effort?05:08
OODWhil: depends what you want to be doing with it05:08
OODi haven't used it yet personally05:08
Whilood: I want to use it for SUSE. I have a friend who has used nothing but Suse and uses my machine sometimes. I'm just wondering if qemu is practical for this application.05:09
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WhilStill haven't had much luck with remote logins either. :(05:11
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contemporaneofrom chile05:14
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larson9999here's a trick question: i'm getting an error that tells me to install the glut development package.  i got all the stuff that say glut in the name already installed.  what is the glut dev package called?05:19
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robotgeeklarson9999: apt-cache search glut | grep dev05:20
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larson9999robotgeek: yeah, i did that and have what it says is the right one installed05:21
I_Died_Oncemy screen savers dont wanna work05:21
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unix_infidelhow can i change the amount of time before the LCD on my laptop shuts off in /etc/acpi05:21
I_Died_OnceKcontrol says they're enabled, but they dont come on05:21
robotgeeklarson9999: it might tell you which file you have missing05:22
larson9999robotgeek: what might tell me?05:22
OODI_Died_Once: did you upgrade to KDE 3.5.3?05:22
I_Died_Onceyeah, but it didnt work before then either05:22
robotgeeklarson9999: when you compile it05:22
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I_Died_Once<OOD> ^05:22
larson9999robotgeek: actually this is the configure that's telling me i don't have the glut development package installed05:23
robotgeeklarson9999: what are you trying to install?05:23
OODI_Died_Once: hmm, this is a screensaver bug that happens after the upgrade, but maybe it'll help you too: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6212.005:24
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larson9999robotgeek: yeah05:24
robotgeeklarson9999: compile, rather?05:24
larson9999robotgeek: yeah but first configure :)05:24
robotgeeklarson9999: name of package please05:24
unix_infidelhow can i increase the time before my laptop LCD shuts off in /etc/acpi?05:25
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larson9999robotgeek: here is the line that makes it think i don't have glut installed: checking for glutInit in -lglut... no05:26
abattoirunix_infidel: you do not want to do it through Kcontrol?05:26
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robotgeeklarson9999: go ahead with the compile, it just might be a feature turned off05:27
abattoirunix_infidel: KControl->Peripherals->Display->Power Saving.05:28
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DeshIf I want to unmount an iso image I mounted to a directory such as media/iso, would I (a) sudo umount <iso dir>   or (b) sudo umount /media/iso05:30
robotgeekDesh: sudo umount <path>05:30
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larson9999robotgeek: how do i do that?  i've always configured first and then make, make install.05:31
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robotgeeklarson9999: not an issue unless you get an error with the ./configure05:31
Deshrobotgeek: path to iso or to the dir?05:31
larson9999robotgeek: yes, that's where i'm getting the error.05:31
robotgeekDesh: mounted directory05:32
Deshrobotgeek: thanks.05:33
robotgeeklarson9999: hmm, not sure. sorry05:33
Desh I have a partition that I will install XP on, hda3, now this partition was originally recognized by buntu, not added to fstab, so I added it and told it to mount to /media/hda3, but it won't auto mount and it says that only root can mount it.05:33
Snake[Away] anyone know any mplayer scripts for show whats playing on irssi?05:33
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robotgeekSnake: i could tell you, but then i would have to kick you :)05:34
Snakerobotgeek: wha??05:34
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robotgeekSnake: /kick you off irc :)05:35
Snakerobotgeek: Okay then /msg me it??05:35
Snakerobotgeek: if your joking, im really not following :P  sorry05:35
robotgeekSnake: just kidding05:35
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Snakerobotgeek: in that case, do you have any?05:36
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Snake!info bitlbee05:38
ubotubitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 756 kB05:38
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Daiferastimthelion, are you still there?05:40
timtheliondid it work?05:40
Daiferaswell, the instructions didn't quite work05:40
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timthelionwhat happend?05:41
Daiferasor at all, really. one second and I'll be specific05:41
Daiferasbasically, when it told me to load (I think?) any package, I didn't have the package available, such as build-essentials05:41
Daiferasit also didn't recognize the command "sudo ndiswrapper <etc>", such as when I was supposed to install the driver05:42
Daiferasthough I guess now it wouldn't unless ndiswrapper installed05:42
doppelganger_whats the equivalent of daemon tools for kubunu, that can be added through adept?05:42
timthelionand you had typed sudo apt-get install ndisswraper whith no luck?05:43
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Daiferasit said something about building tree, and that it couldn't find the ndiswrapper package05:43
Daiferasmm, yes, it said E: could not find etc.05:44
abattoir!info ndiswrapper-utils05:44
ubotundiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB05:44
abattoir^^^^ that's the name of the package05:44
DaiferasI'll change that, then. what about build-essentials?05:44
Daiferaswait, ndiswrapper-utils is what I used. that was in the instructions05:44
Daiferassorry :)05:44
timthelionyou need internet for build essentials05:45
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timthelionwhat does apt-cache search ndisswraper get you?05:46
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DaiferasI can download something with my windows installation and access it?05:46
DaiferasI'm not on Kubuntu right now, I have to reboot to it. on a dual boot currently to compare05:46
unix_infidelabattoir: i dont run the kde daemons at startup.05:46
timthelionand you have no internet05:46
unix_infidelotherwise, i would use them.05:46
timthelionat all05:46
abattoirunix_infidel: aah, ok :)05:47
Daiferasno, not without the wireless, I'm afraid05:47
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timthelionwhat is your wireless card ?05:48
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Daiferas3com wireless abg. I found the serial listed in the ndiswrapper adapters, and have the drivers downloaded, etc.05:48
timthelioncan you accsess the files from linux?05:49
section31_Daiferas: Did you try KNetworkManager?05:49
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Sebenzai'm having a weird problem using an ice1724 card... the module is all loaded and everything and sound comes out of my speakers just fine, but not the headphones plugged into the jack next to them05:49
Sebenzai turned up everything in alsamixer, any ideas?05:49
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Daiferastim: yes, I can access anything i download from linux no problem05:50
Daiferassection31: yes, I tried the network manager first, filling in the ssid and key, but my wireless card shows no activity, etc.05:50
Daiferasi looked it up on ubuntu wiki, and it said I needed ndiswrapper for the card, and that it won't work out of the box, etc.05:51
intelikeySebenza maybe an idiot question but, are you sure it's a headphone jack, and not a mic jack ?05:51
Sebenzayeah it's the same one that worked in windows05:52
Daiferaswhere can I get the build-essentials to compile the ndiswrapper?05:52
intelikeyk  just mentioned it cause i have seen that happen.05:53
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intelikeyDaiferas sudo apt-get build-essentials05:53
Cornelliusforgot install05:53
intelikeyDaiferas sudo apt-get install build-essentials05:54
Daiferasno internet :) trying to compile ndiswrapper so my wireless card will work for that05:54
intelikeyif i wasn't lagging so much...05:54
intelikeyDaiferas i thought b-e was on the install cd ??05:55
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Daiferasapparently not :( if it is, I'm using the wrong command05:55
timthelionndisswrapper should be on the cd though.05:55
sceptreCan anyone help me get Knetwork-Manager working?05:56
doppelganger_anyone know how to burn a bin/cue in kubuntu?05:56
doppelganger_er, emulate05:56
doppelganger_like daemon tools05:56
timtheliontry restarting in linux. puting in the cd.  then typing apt-get update.  then try installing ndisswraper-utils05:56
Healot!info bchunk05:57
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB05:57
DaiferasI also just found the build-essentials and make package to download, so I will try that as well05:58
timthelionyou will need a sudo to do any apt-get05:58
intelikeyi'm pretty sure it was installed here by default from the live-cd install (talk about a mess)  but build-essential is no longer installed so i can't even give you a list of what it depends on, for you to dl....   sorry Daiferas05:58
doppelganger_thanks healot  ;)05:59
Daiferaswell, I'll try what I can05:59
sceptredoes anyone here use Knetwork Manager?05:59
intelikeyDaiferas you do know there is no 's' on the end of 'build-essential'    right ?05:59
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intelikeybuild-essential - informational list of build-essential packages06:00
actinichmm, 'NEVER use sudo to start graphical programs. You should always use gksudo or kdesu to run such programs'06:00
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unix_infideldoes that count :P06:01
actinicthis concludes your lesson for the day :)06:01
Daiferasokay, thanks to everyone, then. I'll try it out. if it fails, I'm going to sleep :P06:01
intelikeyor know how to 'own' your home if sudid app messes up perms...06:01
Daiferashave a good one06:01
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intelikeydelete or deleet ?06:04
posthuman<actinic> hmm, 'NEVER use sudo to start graphical programs. You should always use gksudo or kdesu to run such programs' <--Why is that?06:04
sceptreooh fux0rs06:06
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sceptreI need knetworkmanager, yo dawgz06:06
sceptreare we chill?06:06
intelikeythings running as root with the users environment settings can hose perms and then the user wont be able to start the GUI06:06
Healot!info knetworkmanager06:06
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ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB06:06
Healotthere you dog...06:06
posthumanoh intel06:07
posthumandidnt know that06:07
posthumanI always just sudo, never had a problem06:07
posthumanbut I'll remember that now06:07
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section31_Looks like someone is trying to create a unified package manager for every flavor of *NIX: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/07/161225906:08
intelikeytry it with nautilus some time... :)06:08
posthuman!info networkmanager06:08
ubotuPackage networkmanager does not exist in dapper06:08
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posthumanah I don't use nautilus06:08
intelikeynot sure what all else will wreck things knoqueror maybe, idk.06:09
OODintelikey: i haven't noticed a single difference between sudo and kdesu or gksudo06:09
Healotsection31_: you know what? reinventing the wheel :006:09
RawSewage_or su06:09
posthumanyeah, I've loaded up konqueror with sudo06:09
sceptrei got networkmanager working when I was using the shitty gnome Ubuntu06:09
posthumanno problem06:09
jimmy__is the SLI option really worth all the fuss?06:09
intelikeydepends on the added switches OOD06:10
sceptrebut I can't get the KDE knetworkmanager installed06:10
posthumanlol scept06:10
posthumanew gnome =x06:10
sceptreI hate gnome..06:10
posthumanme too06:10
posthumanI tried using it for like a week06:10
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posthumancouldn't take it06:10
sceptreBut I can't figure out Adept package manager06:10
sceptreI need this knetworkmanager :'(06:10
posthumanhave you enabled the other repos?  multiverse, etc..?06:10
posthumanadept is pretty easy06:10
sceptreI've no idea..06:10
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abattoirsceptre: what exactly do you not get about adept, if i may ask? :)06:10
posthumanoh hehe06:11
sceptrehow to install knetworkmanager06:11
posthumani'll look at mine in a moment06:11
sceptrei don't understand the setup of the system..06:11
sceptrerepositories and all06:11
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intelikeysceptre open a terminal and type   sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager06:11
abattoirsceptre: so its linux package management rather than adept?06:11
Hawkwindsceptre: So why not just use apt-get from CLI ?06:11
sceptreI suppose06:12
sceptreI tried..06:12
posthumanopen adept > view + manage repositories06:12
sceptreBut when I do it says dependencies don't exist on the system06:12
posthumanenable multiverse...I believe06:12
posthumanappply it06:12
HawkwindBut you need to enable multiverse and stuff like that06:12
intelikeyif it doesn't work show me the error.06:12
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:12
posthumanthen 'fetch updates'06:12
intelikeyonly the error.06:12
Healothere dog, fetch!06:12
abattoirsceptre: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu might be a bit more useful :)06:12
sceptrehow do you enable multiverse?06:12
posthumanjust as I said above06:13
posthumanright click + enable06:13
posthumanjust find it in the list06:13
Hawkwindsceptre: Read the URL above that ubotu posted06:13
intelikeyadd the word "multiverse" to the end of the line in file /etc/apt/suorces.list06:14
Healotenabling sections in repos is as simple as appending "universe multiverse" at each and every repos entry in /etc/apt/sources.list06:14
intelikeylike this;  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse06:15
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Healotgood example by intelikey06:15
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Deshsince when did reconfigure xserver-xorg get a GUI!?06:15
intelikeyHealot actually, multiverse won't work on all repos.  maybe backports  i don't recall but one of them will puke if you add multi*06:16
aegeanlinuxDesh: Since the porgrammers programmed it.06:16
Healotwell. not all repos lines then06:16
sceptreit's all commented outm that file06:16
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intelikeyso remove the # from the lines you want.06:17
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DeshCan anyone tell me why I get this when I use apt-get or open up files from Konsole? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1813306:18
Healotthe repos line format >> deb <URL> <repos name> <sections...>06:19
intelikeysceptre now when you "save" that file.    do  sudo apt-get update        and you will be ready to go.06:19
sceptrehaving trouble saving it..06:19
DaiferasI think I've narrowed it down a bit, tim. I found the packages on the cd and tried to install them, but I get an error, saying the archive doesn't exist. I can't install any packages06:20
intelikeycause it's a system file.... you have to open it as root06:20
Daiferasit asked for the root password before it proceeded to try to install06:20
intelikeyso this is your first day with linux ???06:20
Daiferasyep, pretty much06:20
posthumaneh it took me a long time to get use to the whole linux thing ;)06:21
Healotheh, ironically i don;t use linux atm06:21
Daiferaswell, apart from the problems i'm having now, i've liked it a lot so far06:21
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Daiferasthe communities seem especially helpful06:21
posthumanI still have issues sometimes, but I can almost always fix them06:22
posthumanand yeah the ubuntu community is awesome06:22
posthumanbetter than most06:22
posthumanfrom my experience06:22
intelikeydesh you have wacom enabled in xorg.conf06:22
posthumandesh left sir06:22
brittoalguem fala portugues aqui?06:22
Daiferasbut anyway, does anyone know why I can't install any packages?06:22
posthumanwhat is the error you get daif?06:23
sceptreIt's doing something..:)06:23
brittose tiver um brasileiro que saque legal NFS to precisando de ajuda06:23
intelikeyposthuman yes i see that.  my lag time is high.06:23
DaiferasI don't know exactly, but something to the effect of "archive does not exist"06:23
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Daiferaseven though I right clicked the package and chose to install it :P06:23
brittoalgum brasileiro na area?06:23
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ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.06:24
sceptreBlast you guys..06:24
sceptreYou're great..06:24
intelikeyDaiferas didnt you say the box is not networked yet ?06:24
posthumanmaybe bad sources?06:24
sceptreI really appreciate the help06:24
sceptreBless your souls..06:24
Daiferascorrect intelikey06:24
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intelikeyuse   sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>06:25
Daiferasi only have wireless access atm, which is what i'm trying to setup with ndiswrapper. however, i don't seem to have it as a package, nor the make package, nor the build-essential package06:25
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OODKonversation is so much better than X-Chat, don't know why i used x-chat for so long :P06:25
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sceptreI'm gonna check out while this installs..06:25
posthumanyeah, konversation is awesome06:25
sceptreTHanks a bunch!06:25
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intelikeyand if there are deps it will tell you what you need.   you can get them from the repos and copy them over  and use the same command.06:26
posthumanwhere the rpm's are stored at (where adept grabs them from)06:26
Daiferasah, right06:26
posthumansorry, *use to suse*06:26
intelikeyyes  goto http://ubuntu.com   and there is a link06:27
Daiferashmm, the packages I were trying to install were on my cd06:27
intelikeyrpm's  ???06:27
Daiferasokay, i'll try that, then, and this time i'll copy the errors exactly06:27
intelikeyk       you can sudo apt-cdrom add06:28
intelikeythen apt-get should fetch them.06:28
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DeshCan anyone tell me why I get this when I use apt-get or open up files from Konsole? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1813306:28
intelikeydesh you have wacom enabled in xorg.conf ?   and no wacom device ?06:29
Deshintelikey: what is wacom?06:29
intelikeyX is trying to grab an input that doesn't exist.06:29
Deshintelikey, yeah that's what I'm seeing but I dunno how to fix it, and I have no clue why it randomly came up.06:30
intelikeysudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and comment out the sections with devices you don't have then restart X06:30
DeshI have wacom, but what is wacom?06:30
intelikeyto restart X just hit [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace] 06:31
intelikeygoogle knows06:31
Deshintellikey: can I PM you the wacom sections in my xorg.conf?06:31
intelikeyand files are readonly in /etc  unless you open them as 'root'   i.e.  the sudo command06:32
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DeshOk. :-P Thanks tho, I know what it is, for tablets, but mine is not a tablet.06:32
intelikeyi'm a bit of a jerk, and kinda hard to get along with; even harder to understand.   but i'll help when i can.   your welcome.06:33
DeshHehe no prob.06:33
DeshInputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" <-- COmment that out?06:33
DeshI aint got a stylus and this is under Server Layout06:34
DeshK, thanks!!06:34
DeshANd the CLI apps were awesome, thanks for those. :-p06:34
intelikeyto comment something out put # in front of it.    # this is commented out.06:34
OODhe's gone :P06:35
intelikeyOOD expect me to do a lot of that.   lag ranging from 15-30 seconds...06:36
posthumanI should comment that wacom thing too06:36
posthumanthat error is annoying06:36
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intelikeyif you don't have one posthuman06:36
intelikey            commented out.06:36
intelikey-:- SignOff Desh: #kubuntu (Remote closed the connection)06:36
intelikey<OOD> he's gone :P06:36
intelikeyodd that's the way i saw it ^06:37
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ubotuI know nothing about wacom - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:37
posthuman!info wacom06:37
ubotuPackage wacom does not exist in dapper06:37
posthumanwhat is wacom?06:37
intelikeyi know that on your screen my post was after he left.06:37
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intelikeywacom-tools - utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices06:38
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intelikeyxserver-xorg-input-wacom - X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver06:38
intelikeywacom-kernel-source - source for the wacom binary modules06:38
intelikeyapt-cache search wacom    does that ^06:38
OODim tempted to get xgl running, even though i've failed several times so far -.-06:39
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Deshintelikey, sorry to bug ya again, commenting out any tablet specific xorg.conf sections worked, but I stillg et this when in the terminal: DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction." Any ideas? :)06:39
posthumanI got it working, wasn't too hard.  It took up too much of my memory, though.06:39
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OODyou remember what how-to you followed, or how you did get it up?06:40
larson9999why are the wacom things in there anyway?06:40
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intelikeyto see installed packages use  dpkg -l    with an optional filter or two like this.   | grep wacom     or  | grep ii | grep wacom | cut -d' ' -f306:41
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intelikeyDesh did you restart X ?06:41
posthumanI believe it was one on the ubuntuforums ... it was a howto with xgl/compiz cvs...which probably isn't the most stable thing to do06:41
larson9999this configure script is dorked or my system is but i give up06:41
Deshintelikey: Yes.06:41
posthumannot sure of the link atm06:41
intelikeyDesh not sure what that is.   you need an xorg guy.  i'm a console guy.    sorry.06:42
Deshintelikey: does that have anything to do with libperl-qt, because I rememebr that being installed even tho I don;t know what it is.06:42
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DeshAh ok, thanks anyways man.06:42
AyidenOKay this error is begining to seriously annoy...  MP-BIOS BUG: 8254-timer not connected IO-APIC  I even get it on the text install cd .. this did not happen 2 beta releases ago... it happened the disk prior to release and the release of dapper....  I have a coompaq presario v200006:43
intelikeyno it's not a lib error.06:43
intelikeyit's a function   but that's about as far as i can say.06:43
Ayidenright after it says its booting the kernel.. after that error i have only a black screen06:44
nrdbI have a perl script I am using sudo to execute.  It work when run as root but not if run by sudo!  any ideas why?06:44
DeshDoes anyone know why I would get this error in the terminal, such as when running apt-get: DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.06:44
posthumandid you try googeling the error?06:45
posthumanoften times i find fixes tha tway06:45
scabootsscahow do i add my windows harddrive to grub? i've seen the wiki posting cause when i try to change the path to it hdb dosnt work does anyone know why?06:45
intelikeynrdb environment.  man sudo and use the -switch that sets the root env.06:45
nrdbintelikey: I will look06:46
intelikeyDesh so the error says it's a "QT" error.   maybe a quick google could find it  ?06:47
Deshintelikey: trying, the exact error is not found, I get some pages on VBoxLayout tho, looking thru that06:48
intelikeynrdb methinks -i06:49
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intelikeyALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD06:50
Deshapparently VBox has something to do with GTK, as the 2 files on my comp seem to show06:50
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intelikey /exec -o cat /etc/sudoers  ^06:50
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intelikeyidk i get lost in the wherl wind of whistels and bell and flashing light and pretty pictures   when it comes to the GUI   so i just play my music and watch my vidios in the console where it's nice and calmn06:52
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intelikeydo my web serfing and irc'ing edit my documents all in the cli   :)06:53
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Deshintelikey: the videos in vlc, are they supposed to be played with characters?06:54
intelikeyno you need the console package  gimey a sec06:55
posthumaninteli: sounds boring, no offense :P06:55
intelikeyvlc-plugin-svgalib - SVGAlib video output plugin for VLC06:55
intelikeyinstall that ^06:55
posthumani'd hate staring at a command line for a long period06:55
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posthumanlol ;)06:55
intelikeyboring is a state of mind.....06:56
posthumanwell yeah06:56
posthumanmy mind constantly wonders there06:56
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DeshAh ok thanks man.06:56
intelikeyone mans boring is another mans peaceful06:57
posthumanlol yes true :)06:57
intelikeyDesh np06:57
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timthelionhey anyone know how to sleap kubuntu?06:57
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nrdbintelikey: the -i sudo option seems to confuse perl I am getting a lot of "command not found" errors.06:58
sotiredhello all06:58
intelikeyhibernate ?06:58
sotiredhow would i go about formatting my slave drive to ext3?06:58
intelikeyhehhe  sleep <number of seconds>06:59
DeshIt doesn;t stop, I fix one error and more come, what is this: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process06:59
intelikeynrdb hmmm you might want to check /root/.bashrc or .profile and see if the path is bad.06:59
nrdbsotired: mkfs is the command to format a drive06:59
sotiredso mkfs /dev/hdb1 ?07:00
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intelikeyiirc ubuntu is bad about hosing root's path07:00
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timthelionsleap would be better though07:00
nrdbsotired: use the "-t" arguement07:00
sotiredor mkfs /dev/hdb1 ext3?07:00
timthelionit is a windows concept07:01
intelikeysotired sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1     assuming it's the first partition on primary slave07:01
timthelioninstant on (a vista concept)07:01
timthelionhibernate would be good enough though07:01
scabootsscaok thats the right drive but it dosnt start it just sits there on the screen that says whaty is loading07:01
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sotiredstupid quaetion: what is the command to unmount07:02
intelikeyscabootssca did you post that in the wrong channel ?07:03
sotirednot according to my machine07:03
nrdbintelikey: if the /root/.bashrc file etc. where wrong wouldn't that stop root using perl alltogether.07:03
scabootsscalook up for my name07:03
OODI just succesfully installed xgl, and zomg i'm in love !! :D07:03
scabootsscamabye it was in ubuntu not kubuntu07:03
scabootsscaok whatever how do i make my windows drive boot up from grub07:03
unix_infidelshould automatically create the entry for you.07:04
timthelionso do you know how I could hibernate?07:04
sotiredok it looks like the format is working thanks07:04
Deshdebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process, what does this mean? :)07:04
scabootsscait dosnt if it's not in there when i install it07:04
sotiredhow did it format and 80 gig drive so fast?07:05
intelikeyprolly not. nrdb   the main executable is in /usr/bin/   but you may have other things in /usr/local/bin  or some place that is not in root's path.... idk.   but did you say it does work if you login as root and then run it ?07:05
intelikeyjust wrote the superblocks sotired07:06
intelikeyif you wanted to check the disk for serface damage you should have said so sotired07:06
intelikeyooop  bet he didn't see that one either.07:07
scabootsscaok whatever how do i make my windows drive boot up from grub07:07
intelikeyroot hda1 chainloader+107:11
intelikeyassumes hda1  or (hd0,1)   or what ever grub recognises07:11
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timthelioncan someone please tell me how to hibernate kubuntu?07:12
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scabootsscawhat's save default paramentor do?07:13
scabootsscaand also what's makeactive do07:13
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intelikeyscabootssca in grub ^  make active sould make that parition the boot partition    and save sould save the input to the menu.lst   maybe on the save.07:14
DeshOk, I have an issue with Qt, I keep getting this error when I try using apt-get, removing libqt-perl makes it go away but then I get a bunch of other errors since it is apparently a necessary package. Error: DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.. Anyone got any ideas?07:15
scabootsscaso title           Windows Xp07:15
scabootsscaroot            (hd1,0)07:15
scabootsscachainloader     +1 should work?07:15
intelikeymaybe it just saves it for that grub session... i dont recall.   i can't use grub to boot this thing.  it don't know how.07:15
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Daiferasit worked! thanks to everyone who helped!07:16
intelikeylooks good to me.  but like i just said, i use lilo cause grub cant find my system.07:16
scabootsscalilo? is it easier07:16
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intelikeyDaiferas another crappy hamper  :)07:17
Deshscabootssca: I read that with Lilo you need to reinstall it after each new kernel.07:17
Daiferascrappy hamper?07:17
Daiferashah, nevermind07:17
Daiferasi'm a crappy hamper indeed ;)07:17
intelikeyscabootssca prolly not.  just that i know how to use it and grub can't boot a hard disk.  only partitions.07:17
intelikeyhappy camper ?07:18
Daiferasokay, well, time for me to go to bed. thanks again! I appreciate it!07:19
intelikeywho's the on duty help around here ???    why am i the only one answering any questions...?07:21
robotgeekintelikey: you know all the answers?07:21
intelikeyrobotgeek hasn't been paying attention obviously....07:22
robotgeeki use yaboot, so i would not know much about grub/lilo07:22
intelikeyi done passed on three things and no one picked up the slack...07:22
intelikeyk i was just wondering if there was anyone around.07:23
robotgeekwe can only answer questions we know answers to :)07:23
intelikeyna just do like i do.  answer anyway.07:24
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intelikeyoh my.  it's timothy leri <!sp>07:26
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intelikeycan't remember the last name.  only met him a few times.   crazy kid.07:27
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timothynow that my computer has crashed 3 times,  can someonetell me how to hibernate?07:29
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intelikeyrobotgeek ^07:30
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robotgeekintelikey: it works on my computer ootb (i am on a mac)07:31
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abattoirtimthelion: using dapper?07:31
timthelionnow that my computer has crashed 3 times,  can someonetell me how to hibernate?07:31
timthelionI am on dapper yes07:31
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harino i also rarely say "ha ha ha" :-)07:32
abattoirtimthelion: you call softwaresuspend or do you use the menu/button?07:32
robotgeekintelikey: i think all i do here is get on irc nowadays since all the stuff i know about works out of the box07:33
harii am new to IRC07:33
timthelionabattoir: from the command line?07:33
hariso was watching others chat07:33
abattoirtimthelion: how do you hibernate? what do you do?07:33
timthelionabattoir: Do I need to close network apps first?07:34
abattoirtimthelion: also, laptop/destop? if laptop what make/model?07:34
timthelionabattoir: Desktop07:34
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timthelionabattoir: there is a button for it in windows07:34
intelikeyrobotgeek so use something you don't like,  it will make you mad and you will fix it or break it.   like i do ubuntu  :)07:34
abattoirtimthelion: so when does it crash, when shutting down, or when restoring your old session?07:35
timthelionit does not crash07:35
robotgeekintelikey: i use kubuntu and it works great for me?07:35
timthelionI was on the forum befor and left abrutly07:35
intelikeyhari ok,  i didn't mean to "drag" you into anything.  just being sociable ;/07:35
timthelionbecause my compy crashed07:35
hariok :-)07:35
abattoirtimthelion: i thought you said, it crashed....07:35
timthelionI was wanting to know how to do it at all.07:36
timthelionsorry for the confusion.07:36
intelikeyrobotgeek so install blackbox and use it a while.   you don't need to mess-up the system just add something to it.07:36
intelikeyrobotgeek keep you from being bored, and also make you better help to others.07:37
robotgeekintelikey: but why? i know i like kde. i've used all that before :)07:37
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timthelionhow do I hibernate?07:41
intelikeybreak; food!07:41
hariif i install some windows applications under kubuntu using wine then how can i remove it? is it ok to just delete the folder in which the application was installed?07:42
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abattoirtimthelion: sorry someone was at the door...07:45
abattoirtimthelion: have you tried 'sudo hibernate' ?07:45
abattoiron the CLI?07:45
abattoirhari: the same way you uninstall in windows. ;) run the uninstaller app for the appliation07:45
hariok thank you07:46
abattoirhari: most apps, store files in different folders and the registry, to do it cleanly, it'd be better to uninstall...07:46
hariok but thats true under windows but what about linux where does it store the settings for a windows application?07:47
hariwhere is the linux registry located?07:48
drew3Can Synaptic be used to remove the printing system, and then reinstall it?  It seems I have 2-3 printers stuck, that do NOT show up in the GUI/KDE.07:48
abattoirhari: wine works like windows, by default, a hidden folder is created called .wine in your home folder....07:48
abattoirhari: this has a fake drive_C, which emulates C: in  windows...07:49
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abattoiror whatever you name it...07:49
abattoirhari: so this'd follow the dir structure that windows does...07:49
abattoirhari: for eg. you can fiind drive_C/Program_Files etc...07:49
harihmmm thats a new info for me :)07:49
hariok so you mean this hidden folder also contains a registry07:50
abattoirhari: and afaik linux does not have a registry :)07:50
abattoirhari: yes, it emulates windows, so it also has a system and system32 folder07:50
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abattoirhari: it also has notepad ;)07:51
harihmmm i think i must checkout this folder its under / right?07:51
abattoirhari: if you setup wine using the default settings, it'd be under ~/.wine07:52
hariok let me try07:52
abattoirthat is /home/user/.wine/07:52
intelikeydrew3 stuck printer ?   and yes you can remove&install through synaptic/adept/apt/aptitude/dpkg  take your pick.07:52
hariyes i found it :-)07:53
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intelikeyall of those are frontends for dpkg = debian package manager07:53
timtheliontimothy@timothy:~$ sudo hibernate07:53
timthelionYour kernel does not appear to have Software Suspend 2 support compiled in.07:53
timthelionPlease follow the HOWTO linked from http://www.suspend2.net/ for instructions07:53
timthelionon how to compile Software Suspend into your kernel.07:53
timthelionhibernate: Aborting.07:53
crimsuntimthelion: why not ``sudo pmi action hibernate''?07:54
abattoirtimthelion: maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75443&highlight=suspend2 would help?07:54
intelikeyso read  http://www.suspend2.net/07:54
abattoirits for breezy.. but most of it apply to dapper as well... just change the kernel version stuff ;)07:55
harithank you abattoir for giving me info about wine :)07:55
abattoirhari: no problem :)07:55
abattoirhari: google would give you more info :)07:55
drew3intelikey  I'v had a terrible time trying to print, I can see 3 printers that simply do not show up in the gui, I think cups is broken, so want to remove and reinstall, hoping to erase all traces of old printers, and hopefully get new printer working.07:58
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intelikeydrew3 yes. on first clean install of dapper cups was broken here also.   remove it and reinstall it.  it fixed mine.07:59
CntryboyYa'll I forgot, how do I get to resolution for desktop through K-menu08:00
intelikeydrew3 sudo apt-get --purge remove cupsys && sudo apt-get install cupsys08:00
Cntryboyfor the life of me I am over looking it08:00
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abattoirCntryboy: krandrtray...click on the tray icon and choose resolution.08:02
drew3This is brezy,, I worked very hard to make KDE visible for a visually impared, and am afraid of loosing the desktop if I upgrade to dapper. intelikey  TY08:02
Cntryboywhat tray icon08:02
abattoirCntryboy: run the command 'krandrtray'08:02
abattoirit'd load an icon in the system tryay(in the taskbar)08:03
Cntryboybut can't you get there from k-menu?08:03
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abattoirCntryboy: i guess it'll be under Utilities... i'll check08:03
Agent_bobhmmm the only thing that  'pmi action hibernate'  hibernated was my internet connection....   ;/08:03
Agent_bobwell it did blank the screen for a second...08:04
Cntryboyabattoir: find it? lol I swear I found it there one time and now it's gone or atleast im over looking it08:06
abattoirCntryboy: i cant find it there, even though i'd expect to find it there(i dont use the menu at all)08:07
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Agent_bobi never found the launcher for konq file manger profile   i looked all over for a "home" icon  but nothing.08:08
abattoirAgent_bob: Kmenu->System Menu->Home Folder08:08
Agent_bobabattoir i looked in system08:09
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Agent_bobdoesn't matter. i haven't started a gui today anyway.08:09
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abattoirAgent_bob: it's there for me(by default), you could add it if you want through kmenuedit08:10
Agent_bobnot like i would be using it a lot.08:10
abattoirAgent_bob: intelikey by any chance ? ;)08:10
abattoiron another system?08:10
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Agent_bobyeah i knew it should be there.  yes.08:10
Agent_bobno i issued  'pmi action hibernate' and it hibernated my dialup connection.  so i had to redial.08:11
abattoirAgent_bob: oh, so intelikey is just a ghost now? :P08:11
Agent_bobintelikey will ping out in a few.08:11
Agent_bobwhen that spook leaves i'll leave with him and then he'll be right back as me.... or something like that.08:14
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hariIts time for me to go, bye everyone and thanks for helping :)08:22
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pperezHello everyone08:22
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pperezI am trying to understand how to create all of those /boot/abi-* files that live inside the /boot directory08:22
pperezCan someone point me in the right direction. I have searched the debian website, but to no avail.08:23
pperezThanks in advance.08:23
unix_infidelthis is #kubuntu08:23
unix_infidelnot #debian.08:23
lowtechkubuntu is a debian08:23
pperezyeah, I know, I forgot to mention that I visited the kubuntu/ubuntu website as well but nothing there as well.08:23
pperezI am running kubuntu and since kubuntu/ubuntu are relatives of debian, I felt searching there was the most appropiate thing to do08:24
DHGEpperez: I never fiddled with those - I installed kernel images from the repository. I would search the kernel-doc (in the repo)08:24
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pperezI have "grep -r '/boot/abi' /usr/scr/linux/Documentation/*" to no avail as well08:25
pperezSomeone knows, since there is one abi-* file per linux-kernel image in /boot08:25
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lowtechmy kubuntu box isn't booted, guess i never noticed the abi files08:26
Redei have installed an updated kernel via adept, but when i try to boot it fails and shows me the black kubuntu screen. i believe this is due to the restricted drivers, as adept shows them for my previous kernel (-25) but not the updated one (-26)... but im not sure how to fix it08:27
Redeit never does display the nvidia screen it usually does when im booting08:27
justheatingupcan someone give me some direction on how to get my Verizon Wireless PCMCIA card working?08:27
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unix_infidelpperez: i've never noticed an abi-* file there either.08:29
pperezls -l /boot08:29
pperezyou do not have it?08:29
abattoirRede: then i'd suggest that you use the old kernel...08:29
Redeabattoir: thats what im doing :D08:29
abattoirtill either restricted drivers are provided for the current one, or till a new one comes out :)08:29
Redeahh ok08:30
Redeso its just a matter of waiting then08:30
pperezunix_infidel: in my machine there are four (4) files per every kernel (System.map-*, abi-*, initrd.img-*, and vmlinuz-*)08:30
abattoirRede: sorry, i have no clue, i though you were stuck, unable to boot... :)08:30
lowtechwhen was the kernel released?08:30
pperezunix_infidel: I know what ABI means,08:30
unix_infidelpperez: i dont doubt that you dont...i was throwing it in there just for kicks.08:31
pperezI am not trying to have the definition of the ABI acronym, I want to know how to create the /boot/abi-* files08:31
pperezthanks unix_infidel, did you check your /boot to see if you do have these type of files?08:32
unix_infidelpperez: sure i do...otherwise it wouldnt work correctly.08:32
unix_infideli'm not sure how you intend to create the files though.08:32
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unix_infideli always thought those were created when you compile the kernel.08:32
unix_infidelor extracted into /boot when you installed the kernel binary.08:32
pperezyou do not need /boot/abi-* files to have a linux machine boot unix_infidel08:33
pperezThere are there for other reasons08:33
unix_infidelright, eg when specific libraries are needed by another OS.08:33
pperezThey are indeed copied there upon the installation ans extraction of the .deb package.08:33
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pperezBut once again, unix_infidel you are missing the point.08:33
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unix_infidelpperez: i'm sorry if i am, all i heard was that you wanted to create them.08:34
pperezI want to know/understand, how/who (script/program or otherwise) creates these files.08:34
pperezI DO want to create them,08:34
pperezI want to know, what program/binary/script does create them08:34
justheatingupanyone  here have wireless broadband working?08:34
pperezThere has to be a problem, make target, binary, script, m4 macro that generates this file08:35
pperezI meant program08:35
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unix_infidelpperez: maybe a more kernel related channel could be helpful.08:35
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lowtechjustheatingup: i'd say if there are no native linux drivers for it then you may have to look into using ndiswrapper08:35
unix_infidelor the kernel mailing list.08:36
intelikeywill is dead.08:36
harihello again one problem08:36
intelikeylong live will.08:36
justheatinguplowtech it seems its supported08:36
section31_justheatingup: I do. Try installing KNetworkManager via Adept08:36
lowtechjustheatingup: ah, then whats the issue with it?08:36
harii was just trying out various configurations under  amarok's engine08:37
intelikeyhari i know your problem  you can't sleep...08:37
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RandomDude15anyone know a logo or subtitelr fliter for avidemux?08:37
harinop its morning here 12:07pm08:37
harii meant daytime08:37
lowtech12:07pm would be afternoon :)08:37
RandomDude15nvm thoght you said am08:37
justheatingupsection31: ok i was trying to do it via kppp, do I need to look out for anything?08:38
hariok I am from India08:38
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RandomDude15im encoding video in kubuntu and need a subtitle or logo fliter08:38
abattoir@time Calcutta08:38
justheatinguplowtech: I can't get it to work ;)08:38
UbugtuCurrent time in Asia/Calcutta: July 16 2006, 12:08:3308:38
unix_infidelhari: what part/08:38
RandomDude15like the ones virtualdub has08:38
intelikeyhari  i know your problem, you never get out of the house...08:38
hariyes thats correct :)08:39
abattoirheh, its sunday ;)08:39
section31_justheatingup: Nope, just open up Adept, search for "KNetworkManager" and then install it.08:39
unix_infidelintelikey: in india, if you leave the airconditioning after 11am, you're bound to get heat exhaustion :P08:39
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justheatingupsection31: all done08:39
harii was just trying out various configurations under  amarok's engine under sound system08:39
justheatinguphow do I get it to dial Verizon?08:39
abattoirhari: and...?08:39
section31_Oh a verizon wireless card08:40
hariyes its sunday08:40
section31_I thought you were talking about a wifi card08:40
justheatingupsection31: yeppers08:40
section31_Sorry I don't know how to get a verizon wireless card working08:40
harii set the sound engine to xine engine08:40
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intelikeyunix_infidel then how did they survive all those centuries before AC ?08:40
section31_Try Googling for "Verizon Wireless Card Linux"08:40
harithen i began tring out the output device options08:40
lowtechjustheatingup: no router, just direct wireless?08:40
unix_infidelintelikey: water :)08:41
hariwhen i tried one of them amarok(i dont remember which, i think its the last option in the list) crashed08:41
justheatinguplowtech: I have an IBM t42 with a verizon wireless08:41
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justheatingupPCMCIA car08:41
unix_infideljustheatingup: you have  verizon GPRS?08:42
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harinow it defaults to aRts engine08:42
unix_infideljustheatingup: odds are that the card isnt supported by linux.08:42
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intelikeyRandomDude15 did you ask in #ubuntu ?08:42
hariyes it works08:42
justheatingupunix_infidel: i'm told that it is08:42
haribut i cant now set the engine again to xine amarok wont let me08:43
intelikeythat question is not desktop specific.  you might strike pay dirt in there.08:43
abattoirhari: what is the error msg?08:43
unix_infideljustheatingup: show me a URL that's shows how it is and hopefully its well documented.08:43
justheatingupunix_infidel:  I have EVDO08:43
lowtechguess i didn't know verizon had a wireless network08:43
unix_infideljustheatingup: that's fine.08:43
hariit says "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers"08:43
unix_infidelthe hardware is what you care about.08:43
harithen it defaults to aRts08:44
abattoirhari: and when you select it in the Engine Settings page?08:44
intelikeyhari possable something else you adjusted prevents xine from being an option now.  try to retrace your steps and see what else changed.08:44
crazy_penguina good morning to all!08:45
unix_infideljustheatingup: so what's the problem?08:45
intelikeyis all here ?08:45
ubotuI know nothing about all - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:45
justheatingupunix_infidel: it doesn't connect08:45
intelikeyoh all  oh   good morning08:45
harias far i know i was trying out various output devices with xine as the engine and it crashed08:45
lowtechjustheatingup: any error?08:46
unix_infideljustheatingup: when you issue pppd call sprint?08:46
abattoirhari: ok, but what happens when you try to select xine engine again?08:46
justheatingupsomething about 8 bits08:46
harinow it wont let me select the xine engine08:46
abattoirhari: yes, what error does it spit out?08:46
hariif i could have selected that then i could have changed the output device to default08:46
justheatinguplet me try a few more things08:46
hari"xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers"08:46
justheatingupget better debug08:46
intelikeycrazy_penguin we be a fun love'n bunch.   take no offence if we make sport of ya when you come in.08:47
abattoirhari: even when you try to switch to xine from arts?08:47
RandomDude15no i didnt08:47
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harii am doing this from settings->configure amarok...->engine08:48
abattoirhari: ok, so you cant even choose xine engine right? ok, let me checkup08:49
hariyes right08:49
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harii think i will have to manually edit xines config file08:49
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DeshOk, I have three links in my root folder (/): cdrom, initrd.img and vwlinuz, are these safe to delete?08:50
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abattoirpygi: welcome :)08:51
intelikeyonly problem i had with it, was it got in the way.  so i nuked it.    i do things that way.    if the kernel gets in the way   apt-get --purge remove linux-*     :)08:51
NineTeen67CometHello all .. I'm adding Kubuntu to my extra drive as a third OS (Second version of Linux) .. and although I see vmlinuz in the / directory, how does Kubuntu need listed in grub.conf? (I'm using the grub.conf from my other Linux install) ..08:52
pygiabattoir: hey08:52
posthumanlol intel08:52
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hariwhere can i find xines config file so that i could manually edit them?08:52
abattoirNineTeen67Comet: grub.conf....???08:53
DeshWhat is initrd.img?08:53
abattoirNineTeen67Comet: do you mean lilo.conf?08:53
intelikeyabattoir no08:53
intelikeypay attention.   it's another linux distro.08:53
NineTeen67Cometabattoir: I don't use lilo currently (Haven't for years) .. but my main stay distro uses it, I just want to add this new Kubuntu install to it ..08:53
abattoirintelikey: afaik grub has no grub.con, only menu.lst, lilo has a lilo.conf08:54
NineTeen67Cometgrub.conf is located in /boot/grub/ ..08:54
lowtechabattoir: some distro's use grub.conf08:54
abattoirlowtech: oh, i didnt know that.08:55
intelikeyNineTeen67Comet the kubuntu install  by default will make a /boot/grub/menu.lst   check it out   if all three systems are there you should be good to go.08:55
intelikeyabattoir ever use gentoo distro08:55
NineTeen67Cometintelikey: aha . that's what I was looking for ..08:55
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abattoirintelikey: no, never. :)08:55
intelikeyNineTeen67Comet yeah i guessed by the 'grub.conf' file.08:56
NineTeen67Cometintelikey: there we go .. thank you much .. I see how it needs it's syntax now ..08:56
abattoirhari: try removing ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc... you'd lose all your amarok settings though.08:57
DeshQuestion, the vmlinuz and initrd.img files on the root of the filesystem, are those important?08:57
intelikeyNineTeen67Comet welcome08:57
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hariok let me try08:58
NineTeen67CometOff to reboot and see if I can't help some friends figure out their boxes (talked them into trying Kubuntu) ..08:58
abattoirDesh: i think those are symlinks to the actual vmlinuz and initrd.img08:58
Deshabattoir: Would it be bad if I deleted them?08:58
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Deshabattoir: are they present on your root filesystem?08:59
abattoirDesh: if grub looks for it there, then yes, it'd be bad.08:59
abattoirDesh: yes. they are08:59
intelikeythey are symlinks to the real /boot/vmlinux-`uname -r`   and /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r`    and no.  if your menu.lst has the full path you can rm the symlinks safely.08:59
lowtechmay be referenced in grub08:59
DeshIs there one called cdrom?08:59
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abattoirDesh: they point to the latest initrd.img / vmlinuz08:59
Deshabattoir: is the one called cdrom?08:59
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abattoirDesh: you mean a symlink? yes, it links to /media/cdrom09:00
intelikeyDesh use ls -l /  to see what is going on there.09:00
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Deshabattoir: ah that one was odd to me, cdrom, since I don;t have a media/cdrom, I have a media/cdrom0.09:01
intelikeywhich links to /media/cdrom009:01
intelikeyor something... i always rm /media to begin with...09:01
ajayhey hari09:01
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DeshHmm, odd, let me see what a reboot does with cdrom gone...09:02
intelikeyls=list -l=long listing format09:02
harihello ajay09:03
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intelikeyls -l --color=auto <any.dir-or.file>09:03
intelikeyonly slightly better than   file <any.dir-or.file>09:04
hariabattoir i fixed it without removing ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc, i editted that file and changed the xine output plugin to autodetect instead of esd which was causing all the trouble09:05
intelikeyi should go now.   but you guys are just so much fun....09:06
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DeshWell, the cdrom link seems to be unnecessary...09:07
DeshMy Cd rom was found and was auto mounted when I clicked on it...09:07
intelikeyof course it is.  i could have told you that.09:07
DeshThen of what use is that link to media/cdrom when my drive is media/cdrom0?09:08
DeshLike I'm just trying to get a feel for how everything workds.09:08
intelikeyDesh but the /media  dir is another issue.  if you want hal to do it's job  leave that there.09:08
DeshWho's Hal?09:09
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intelikeyDesh symbolic links take up very little space and make something work much easier   the /cdrom link is just for your convienance.09:10
ubotuI know nothing about hal - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:10
intelikeyhal - Hardware Abstraction Layer09:10
intelikeyhal-device-manager - Hardware Abstraction Layer user interface09:10
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intelikeyhal-doc - Hardware Abstraction Layer09:11
DeshCool. I guess I'll put it back...when Konsole decides to not be dumb and recognize the link...09:11
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intelikeyDesh ln -s /media/cdrom0 /cdrom09:12
intelikeymay need root access   not sure what the default perms are on /09:12
intelikeyiirc most of the time there are two links to the first cdrom's mountpoint.  /cdrom  /media/cdrom   both point to /media/cdrom0   or possably they chain to it....   doesn't matter how they get there.09:14
DeshK, thanks. The link I deleted was to media/cdrom not media/cdrom0 tho, should I alter that?09:15
Deshcdrom0 it is09:15
hariamaroK now works perfectly :-)09:15
intelikeyDesh cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom09:15
intelikeyand see where the system thinks the cdrom should mount.09:16
Deshcdrom0 :)09:16
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DeshSweet, thanks.09:17
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intelikeyhmmm i get a blank from that....   i guess i never setup the cdrom on this system.  doesn't matter root access is blocked anyway.  so i can't mount any thing.09:18
Deshintelikey, I got the plugin to show acual video in cli vlc, but can I ever opt to play the videos with the chars w/o uninstalling the plugin?09:18
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intelikeyyes   man vlc09:19
DeshOk, hehe I'll look it up, thanks.09:19
DeshOne last thing before I go to bed for anyone who could answer, Linux has always said something like [xxxxxxxxxx]  PCI: failed to allocate mem resource at 000000000000@0 blah blah, twice at boot time. What would this be?09:20
intelikeyDesh actually  better help from.  vlc --longhelp | less09:21
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intelikeyah man 6M to dl.   that's another 35 minutes.09:28
intelikeyi may put the box on a timer and leave it to kill it's self...09:29
intelikeyhehhe well no. i won't do that.09:29
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hariwhats the time there intelikey?09:30
intelikeyhmmm no actually it's tomarrow already.09:31
intelikeyround midnight09:31
intelikeybut i get to go back home tuesday.  i'll like the extra two hours.09:33
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harii am leaving now bye everyone and thank you for the help :)09:37
intelikeyhari have a real nice day.09:38
hariand have good night :)09:38
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intelikeynice chaps those indians   the ones ive communed with anyway.09:40
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TonrenHey guys, I installed Dekorator but don't know how to run it.  How do I run it?09:51
bobbinhelp: Without exception, when my Kubuntu system is started up, "setting sensors limits [Failed] " occurs. Can somebody shed some light on how to correct this?09:53
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uniqbobbin: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3413009:55
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uniqtonren: try alt+f2 , type 'dekorator'  and press enter.09:56
TonrenTried that already, uniq.  Couldn't run the specified command.09:56
TonrenAlso "Apropos dekorator" does nothing09:56
uniqtonren: ok, where did you install dekorator from?09:56
Tonrenuniq: I'm in Kubuntu.  sudo apt-get install dekorator09:57
uniqtonren: ok. hang on. I'll check for you.09:57
Tonrenuniq: Thanks.09:58
intelikeyTonren open a konsole and type   De[tab]     where [tab]  is the tab key    if it's not in that list try lower case.   the autocompletion should help you find the executable.09:58
Tonrenintelikey: It is in neither of those09:59
uniqit's not a standalone application with a binary.09:59
Tonrenuniq: Is it a daemon?  What is it?  How does it Manage my Themes if it has no GUI?10:00
intelikeyi see.10:00
TonrenAll I want to do is install a theme from kde-look.org10:00
TonrenBut is a theme the same thing as a color scheme?  How should I know?10:01
intelikeyTonren one could do   dpkg -L dekorator | grep '/bin/'10:01
intelikeyif it has an executable that should show it.10:01
Tonrenintelikey: It just shows /usr/bin and /usr/sbin10:02
uniqtonren: it's a theme. kwin theme.10:02
Tonrenuniq: Okay.  Well, in System Settings, there's no "Theme" thing.  Only one for Color Schemes.10:02
intelikeyneither of those should show.10:02
Tonrenuniq: How do I GET to my "theme manager"?  :\10:02
uniqtonren: system settings -> appearance -> window decorations.. or something like that.10:03
Tonrenuniq: That's just for window .. er.. window decorations.  Not themes.10:03
uniqtonren: from the kosnole: 'kcmshell kwindecoration' if you want.10:03
uniqyou'll find dekorator in the list of window decorations.10:04
Tonrenuniq: I downloaded a .kth file.  It is neither a color scheme nor a style, but some kind of "theme".10:04
Tonrenuniq: OOOOH!  I seeee!!10:04
uniqtonren: you can use it from dekorator..10:04
Tonrenuniq: dekorator has its own little control panel thingie WITHIN the Window Decoration window10:05
uniqyes. :)10:05
TonrenMy GOD, that's confusing.10:05
uniqhehe.. well.. :)10:05
TonrenDeKorator ISN'T just window decoration!  It ought to be its own app.10:05
uniqyou still have to select to use it as window decroation.. so :)10:06
intelikeydekorator - KDE theme manager10:06
intelikeythat ^10:06
TonrenWell... now the theme that I downloaded is not working.  It says it's not a valid theme.10:06
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uniqpoor description on that package.. though.10:07
Tonrenthis is lame10:12
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TonrenCan anyone suggest why this might not be installing properly?: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3394410:16
intelikeyhmmmm i can sujest that i should just remove xorg...  why have something installed you don't use.10:17
uniqintelikey: you don't use anything graphical?10:17
intelikeysure.  but not in x10:18
uniqwhere then?10:18
intelikeyand svgalibs10:19
uniqthen removing xorg wouldn't make much trouble i guess.10:19
intelikeydaz rite10:19
intelikeyChristmasCpp: cannot stat `/etc/evms.conf': No such file or directory10:20
intelikeycp ; cannot stat `/etc/evms.conf': No such file or directory10:21
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uniqwhat are you tryting to do?10:21
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intelikeynothing update ran and is whining cause the system is not default.10:21
intelikeyit's no biggy.10:21
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intelikeylol  hows this for an error message....  [Yn]  n10:22
intelikeyOr maybe you don't want a symbolic link here. Hmm? Lets See.10:22
intelikey /vmlinuz does not exist. Installing from scratch, eh?10:23
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intelikeyreverse those last two. ^10:23
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diezareIs it possible to install the smp via apt-get??10:24
intelikeysmp is in the kernels 2.6.15+10:25
ubotuI know nothing about smp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:25
intelikeyubotu is dope these days.10:25
diezareI'm using kernel 2.6.15 are you sure it is installed automatically with it?10:25
diezarecause i got 1.8 duo core processor and it's very slow10:26
diezaresometimes the cpu on the load reaches 100% while i'm just opening the firefox10:26
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intelikeydiezare check the forums for more on it.   but that is what i hear.  yes it's there.  you may need to activate it.  idk.10:27
diezarek, thnx.10:27
uniqdiezare: you can check if both processors are detected, with the command 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' in konsole.10:30
intelikeyhmm i have two kernels  i wonder if the newer one will boot.....    prolly not.10:31
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diezarei did and it only shows 1 processor, so i think that the smp isn't installed.10:31
TonrenHow do I open "control center"?10:31
intelikeyTonren  menu > system settings10:32
diezaredo I have to recompile the kernel to install the smp?10:32
Tonrenkde-look.org is telling me to open Control Center and use "Look and Feel" to select a new Theme or Style, but I can't find Look and Feel, nor can I find a Theme Manager anywhere.10:33
intelikeydiezare did you look on the forums ?10:33
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diezarei searched google and check the related posts but i found no post explaning how to install the smp10:33
intelikeygoto forums and search smp10:34
diezarei will.10:34
uniqtonren: alt+f2 'kcontrol'10:34
intelikeyif smp is not already installed, ....    well it is!  so10:34
diezareif it is not already installed, will i have to recompile the kernel to install it?10:35
Tonrenuniq: Ahhhhhhhhhh... thank you!!10:35
intelikeylinux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.10:36
intelikeylinux-k7-smp - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7 SMP.10:36
MasterEvilAce32bit programs run in 64bit linux right??10:36
intelikeydiezare apt-cache   ^10:36
uniqmasterevilace: not natively.10:36
MasterEvilAcewhat do you mean10:36
diezarebut my processor is intel not amd10:36
uniqmasterevilace: you will have to install a 32bit chroot. with 32bit libs and everything.10:37
imbrandonuniq, sure they can but you cant install them via dpkg , you must user a chroot if you want a package manager10:37
intelikeydiezare if you are that lame.  i'm finished here.10:37
diezaregot it, sry10:37
MasterEvilAceso installing wine isn't poissible10:37
diezaredidn't the first message10:37
imbrandonMasterEvilAce, via a chroot10:37
diezaredownloading now, thnx.10:38
imbrandonMasterEvilAce, check this out ( its for 32bit firefox in 64bit linux but just subsitute wine )10:38
ubotuI know nothing about chroot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:38
imbrandongrr one sec10:38
intelikeyyou won't get much. i'm thinking....10:39
intelikeydiezare what is the size of the dl ?10:39
imbrandonMasterEvilAce, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot10:39
diezare52 mb10:39
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intelikeyhmmm i guess that's a kernel.     did you upgrade to dapper or what ?10:40
diezarei've just got version 6.06 3days ago10:40
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diezarethis should be the dapper, or i've got to upgrade?10:42
intelikeyoh.   duh.   i forgot to ask what kernel you had.   bet it's i386.   smp is not in i386  only i686   just took for granted that you had i686       my bad.        anyway all i686  and  k7 kernels have smp built in      and yeah   6.6 is dapper.10:43
intelikeyat least they tell me they do. ^    i have no multicore to test that on.10:44
diezarei had i38610:45
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intelikeyok.  that was the failing point.   sorry i grumbeled at you....10:46
diezarenp, thnx 4 ur support10:46
intelikeyok i'm went....10:47
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MasterEvilAcekubuntu can't run RPM's right?10:49
MasterEvilAcelike it's not designed for it10:49
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Bazzi_MasterEvilAce theoretically it can10:52
MasterEvilAcedoes adept run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable after installing nvidia-glx?10:52
Bazzi_practically I wouldn't do it10:52
Bazzi_and no, afaik adept doesn't do it10:53
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MasterEvilAceapt-get says could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock.. etc. etc. anyway to fix this without rebooting?11:03
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menno_Kubuntu Dapper won't boot on my second computer!11:08
menno_you could say: so stick with the first11:09
menno_but i like to linuxize all my computers!11:09
menno_maybe some detection error because of the SCSI?11:09
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_christelhi all, does anyone know how to play wmv under breezy?11:12
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neilhi, i got a problem with my kubuntu system. i guess the cmos battery is dead so when it's started the system date is something like 1904-xx-xx. the strange thing is that kdm is freezed when starting with such a datetime, so i guess i should use a ntp server ?11:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:13
uniq!wmv > _christel11:13
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neilno idea ? another problem is that i dont have any /etc/init.d/ntpdate script11:15
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_christelthanks, i'm check your links and get back if pbms. what do you mean with "!wmv"?11:16
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uniq_christel: it's just a command to get the information from ubotu. :)11:18
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_christelthanks, looks like mplayer is the best but apt-get tells me it is not available and has no installation candidate (for mplayer-386)11:21
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Kadranhi how to run an ELF format file in linux??11:21
wordwhy is kubuntu like .8 versions behind in wine?11:21
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neilKadran: ???11:23
Kadrani need to run a file that originally for sun solaries and i want to make it work in kubuntu?11:23
Kadranhi neil11:23
neilrebuild it ?11:23
Kadrani don't got it's source code11:23
Kadranit is the internet explorer 5 for linux11:24
wordKadran: ^11:24
neilyou could also try windows internet explorer with wine if you are on x86/amd64 it works perfectly11:24
Kadranit hangs up with wine :(11:25
Kadrani hate that11:25
Kadrani need to view a site that only be displayed on ie and i don't want to install windows11:25
steinihi I've a question....I installed Kubuntu and had the 2.6.15-23 kernel...then I installed the nvidia-drivers using Adept...worked fine11:26
steinibut now....I've kernel 2.6.15-26 and can't use the nvidia drivers anymore but can't reinstall newer ones?!11:26
wordKadran: what browser are you using?11:26
Kadrani tried konqueror, firefox, mozilla , no use11:27
MasterEvilAceHelp! Can't apt-get remove program because it requires dpkg --configure -a, but it errors so that won't complete. It's looping11:27
wordfirefox + user agent switcher plugin install it then right click - > customize on the toolbar and add the user agent icon to the bar then click on it and set it to IE11:27
wordwhat site are you trying to view?11:28
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Kadrani found that the problem that the site is designed to work with asp.net and asp.net generate code that works with trident layout engine which exclusively works on microsoft11:28
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jukeare there any good video player wich can show subtitles?? :P12:56
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imbrandonjuke,  afaik both mplayer and kaffeine play subtitles12:57
imbrandonand both are pretty good imho12:58
jukehmm.. i have kaffeine but i don't have mplayer.. apt-get :P01:00
MasterEvilAcekubuntu support dual core?01:03
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jukeimbrandon: you said mplayer.. you mean kmplayer?? :P01:03
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MilhousePunkRockHi everyone01:05
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MilhousePunkRockHow can I change the "pre-KDE" resolution of Kubuntu?01:05
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jukewhat means pre kde?? :P01:09
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MilhousePunkRockThe boot sequence01:10
MilhousePunkRockWhen the Kubuntu-Logo is there and it tells me all the booting stuff01:11
MilhousePunkRockI know I could change that for the Live-CD01:11
imbrandonjuke, no i mean mplayer01:11
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imbrandonJack1, right click on kick and "add applet" its in the menu01:11
imbrandon^^ from awhile ago01:12
imbrandonMilhousePunkRock, its a kernel parm , like vga= ( try google )01:12
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Jack1yes imbrandon thx i was first looking in application buts rather an applet thx01:13
Jack1why wont amarok play cds?01:13
Jack1in my case01:13
MilhousePunkRockimbrandon: What about this --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21556601:14
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MilhousePunkRockSee, I tried Google first01:14
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MilhousePunkRockOr is that only for GRUB?01:15
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rosaabattoir:Hi there! Its me again...01:15
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isedehi all, i don't seem to be able to install any perl modules using CPAN intreface - is there some known funnyness about kubuntu perl installation?01:15
bbwHi all01:15
rosaJust purched amarok to see if it works, but it didnt....01:15
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rosaabattoir: do you have any more idas for getting it right?01:16
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bbwi want to install Kqemu but problem with extracting (im newbie to linux ) can someone help me out01:17
bbwhow do i install it01:18
fredwhat is the problem you got01:18
rosaok... somebodyout there: can anyone tell me where there could be difficulties or things to be dangerous by upgrating kubuntu?01:18
bbwcan't install kqemu01:18
MilhousePunkRockrosa: Upgrading as in applying the upgrades Adept shows you?01:19
fredbbw: if you dont give more info, it is hard/impossible to find the issue01:19
bbwi want to install Kqemu but problem with extracting01:19
fredok which problem01:19
rosaLast time someone tried to upgrade from breezy to dapper all my pathes were killed, so we had to install everything again01:19
fredmore info man, i asked 3time already :)01:19
bbwmissing files01:20
MilhousePunkRockAre you on Dapper now, rosa?01:20
bbwis the apt-get code for kqemu01:20
hakando you know server code01:20
fredbbw: ok good luck then :) sorry i wanted to help but unable to read mind :)01:20
hakanor any server name for private message01:20
rosaMilhousePunkRock: now on Breezy but I want Dapper on Kubuntu01:20
rosaWhere could there be problems with upgrading01:21
jukewhen i try to play videos with kaffeine or kmplayer.. the sound is not working..why?? :P01:21
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bbwist oke fred i will google around im totaly new to linux its differend as windows but i will try01:21
mindspinrosa make a backup of your /home directory first01:22
hakani cantt send any private message01:22
mindspinhakan: your nick is registered?01:22
rosaMindspin: allready done01:22
hakan am new user for kubuntu01:22
fredbbw: ok good luck :) and for a next time, let me repeat, to provide info would help you getting help :)01:22
hakani dont now01:22
rosahome is a single partition on my pc. so it shouldntmatter, right?01:23
hakani dont know01:23
mindspiniirc in some channels you are supposed toregister your nick for sending priv. msg01:23
bbwfred its oke i will get the story straid next time so you understand what the problem is , no hard feelings01:23
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fredmindspin: yep, freenode requires the nick to be registered to send private messages01:24
fredbbw, cool :)01:24
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Jack1guys how would i upgrade to amarok 1.4.1 when by synaptic default there is just 1.3.9 as current specified?01:25
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Jack1i havedifferent probs with amarok eg not playing cds so would i be bettter off to use another media player eg xmms?01:26
fredJack1: the new version is in another repository if i remember correctly01:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:26
Jack1<Ash-Fox> i have read that thx01:27
fredjack1: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php to get amarok 1.4 pacakge01:27
Jack1fred with wget? and then compile or how?01:28
frednope this is a web page, you go there and it explain you how to get amarok 1.4 pacakge01:28
LynoureIt seems my Amarok refuses to play mp3s from a usb drive, but shows them fine... and playes other mp3s. Kaffeine will play these from the usb stick just fine...01:29
LynoureIs there anything I can do to fix this?01:29
fredLynoure: have you tried to put another audio format in the usb drive to see if amarok can play them ?01:30
imbrandonLynoure, or use the usb drive as a "media device" in amarok01:30
Jack1deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main  fred do i hvae to add this to the apt sources list?01:31
Lynourefred: no, but if I copy the mp3 to hard disk, amarok plays them fine01:31
Lynoureimbrandon: I'll try that, sounds promising :)01:31
fredLynoure: so as imbrandon suggessted it is likely a drive issue, more than a format one01:31
fredJack1: the web page say 'amarok-14'01:32
fredJack1: i dunno if there is a 'amarok-141' in the url01:32
Lynourefred: but on the other hand kaffeine does play them straight from the stick...01:33
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fredLynoure: yep but they may handle the drives differently, have you tried the imbrandon suggestion ?01:33
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Jack1fred in ur website it explains how to import the keys and then it says Apt source:01:34
Jack1deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main01:34
imbrandonamarok-latest also works01:34
Jack1so i am unsure if just to add to the sources list or how to do?01:34
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fredJack1: ah ok, you showed me "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main" <- so i was thinking you wanted to add the '1'01:35
Lynourefred: yes, worked like a charm... still intrigued.01:35
fredJack1: so yes add this in the repository list in the /etc/apt/source.list01:35
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imbrandonfred, Jack1 just subsitute amarok-14 for amarok-latest then you dont have to worry about changing it later01:35
fredLynoure: it is understandable :)01:35
Jack1ok thx fred where would i just at the end?01:35
imbrandonJack1, yea at the end of the file is fine01:36
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fredJack1: yep at the end is good. follow the imbrandon suggestion01:36
Jack1u mean .../packages/amarok-latest right? imbrandon?01:36
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Jack1thx guys01:37
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imbrandonLynoure, amarok handels remote ( usb is seen as remote ) drives a bit diffrent to accomifdate for iPods and such but that makes usb drives have to use that interface also ;( but all in all it should work01:38
Lynourefred: luckily/unfortunately the world is stull of fascinating things to explore.01:38
Lynoureimbrandon: Thanks to your advice, I'm now happily nodding to Seabound's Hooked :)01:39
imbrandonJack1, also while your in your sources.list add another line for "kde-latest" too it will update you to kde 353 and you will be much happier 01:40
imbrandonfred ^^01:40
imbrandonJack1, its signed by the same key so you only have to add the additional line01:40
Jack1imbrandon just kde-latest without anything else??01:41
imbrandonno no01:41
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imbrandonmake it the same as the amarok line just subsitue the word amarok for kde01:41
fredimbrandon: http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-lastest or kde-latest things .. this is a generic mechanism which work for any package or are they hardcoded ?01:41
imbrandonin other words like " deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main "01:41
Jack1imbrandon and then how to upgrade amarok?01:42
imbrandonfred, only ones me or Ridd*ell or Hobbsee package up and backport , atm kde-latest , amarok-latest and koffice-latest are the only choices01:42
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imbrandonJack1, ok you have those two lines in sources.list ?01:43
imbrandonand the file saved ?01:43
Jack1yes fred imbrandon01:43
imbrandonthen in konsole copy / paste this line with no quotes01:43
imbrandon" sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade "01:44
fredhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic <- jack1 for future use. it helps you autogenerate source.list01:44
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rosadoes anyone know about problems with upgrading kubuntu breezy to dapper? and their solutions?01:45
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.01:46
Jack1thx so much guys now i just need to find a real good visualization for electronic music for amarok01:46
imbrandonrosa,  ^^ losted there01:46
fredrosa, i did it without issue01:46
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imbrandonfred, here is my sources.list i keep it pretty standard http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/sources.list01:47
rosafred: ok. then I did something wrong.... What about printing on dapper?01:47
Jack1fred in your sources list generator shall i choose oentium for intel core duo?01:47
Jack1fred i would need 68601:47
KDEfanboyhehe -> ?01:47
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imbrandonbrb afk a few01:48
fredrosa or more likely i didnt hit your problem :)01:48
fredjack1, i think so01:48
fredall: btw imbrandon is a lot more experienced than me for most answers here :)01:49
Jack1fred well i better stick to my old one since i cannot chose this 686 core duo01:49
rosafred: I did apt gte upgradeinstead of apt get dist-upgrade and everything went kboom.....01:49
Jack1whatever both bright lights heheh fred01:49
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fredrosa, well kboom is not a precise description :)01:50
Jack1rosa are u really a girl?01:50
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fredJack1: yep the source-o-matic is only a suggestino, you easily can do without01:50
rosajack1: yes!!!!01:50
Jack1lol rosa just making fun01:51
rosafred: all my pathes didnt work afterwards01:51
fredrosa, which path are you talking about ?01:51
rosafred: some programs said they couldnt find the $path ore something like this... and of course they didnt work!01:52
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fredrosa, ok i doesnt ring any bell here, so maybe you should read the page given by imbrandon, and if your issue is not in there, come back with a precise description of what goes wrong :)01:54
fredthe point here is i dont undestand what is the problem so the solution is pretty hard to find :)01:54
rosafred: ok.... tnx anyhow01:55
mindspinrosa did you a dist-upgrade afterwards?01:56
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diezareIs their a kernel 2.6.17-rc1 versoin avilable for kubuntu?01:56
fredno problem :) you understand that it is not i dont want to help, it is that 'it doesnt work' is too vague, right ?01:57
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stefan_HEllo all01:57
Harmentalquestion for everybody....01:57
rosamindspin: no, i just did apt get upgrade and it didnt work. everything went wrong, so now Im just a little sceptic!01:57
stefan_I just install kubuntu dapper01:58
Harmentalwhere do you do you latex work?01:58
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diezareIs their a kernel version 2.6.17-rc1 for kubuntu, yet?01:58
cox377hello all01:58
stefan_ I want to use "apt-setup"01:58
stefan_but can not find it01:58
cox377i've just intall kubuntu on my laptop01:58
stefan_can someone help01:58
cox377and i dont know how to install the wireless card01:58
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Ash-Foxcox377, for me it was just inserting the card and that was that.01:59
Harmentali have a dlink DWL-G650 pcmcia card and it worked out of the box for me...01:59
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cox377i've inserted the dongle02:00
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cox377and went to wireless assisant application under internet and it says it cant find anything02:00
cox377rebooted it as well02:00
fredstefan_: just in case you are not really attached to apt-setup, you may try 'adept', it is really easy to use02:00
Harmentalbut when I updated kernel i stopped worked...so I had to stick with 2.6.15-23...02:00
Ash-Foxlsusb identifies it correctly?02:00
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rosamindspin: do you think if i do dist-upgrade it should work?02:01
Jack1fred i have a cd with music on it but the folders appear in ma drive just as question marks?02:01
redboyhi everyone. Do you mind if I just lurk around for ten minutes?02:01
Jack1fred probably wrong encoding?02:01
stefan_fred: but I want to konsle02:02
Ash-Foxredboy, many people idle here longer :)02:02
redboylol ok02:02
stefan_where is the command "apt-setup"02:02
mindspinmaybe I#m not a good source for help related to dapper upgrade, it was a desaster for me02:02
stefan_I can not find it02:02
Chousukestefan_: it should be run on the command line02:02
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Chousukestefan_: if you need to find the path to it, run "which apt-setup"02:02
stefan_but I get "command not found"02:02
rosamindspin: why? which discribtion did you follow?02:03
Chousukestefan_: oh02:03
Chousukestefan_: well, maybe you need to install it :P02:03
mindspinI just did sudo apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade02:03
cox377ash-fox: i ran lsusb and its found 1 device out of 4 which should be correct as there is only 1 usb device02:03
ChousukeI thought it was installed per default though.02:03
mindspinafter editing the sources.list02:03
fredJack1: maybe. dunno02:03
fredstefan_: ok lets me find the info02:03
Jack1i can just find a german hardware compatibility list for ubuntu can so point to the international one?02:03
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ChousukeJack1: check the ubuntu wiki?02:04
fredstefan_: oh have you tried aptitude ? this is command line too02:04
rosamindspin: where did you get the how to from?02:04
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport02:04
mindspinall started with not installing kubuntu-desktop, it could have been related that I had already kde3.5.2 installed(riddelspackage)02:04
fredstefan_: ok do 'locate apt-setup' in a terminal and paste that in pastebin02:05
mindspinrosa which "howto" its just routine  haha and adding other sources beside the default ones may be a risk...02:05
Jack1<Chousuke> !HCL yes thats it thx02:06
rosamindspin: you had not-standart installation, so this was coming to see, but i havent!02:06
cox377i've run the command lshw to try and see if there is the wireless card showing and it';s just saying "DMI"02:06
fredstefan_: i dunno the path to reach it but apt-setup exists02:06
mindspinI would try a dist-upgrade and have a brief look in your sources.list (wether there are typos ...)02:07
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stefan_when I do `locate apt-setup` iget imidiatly an emtpy promt02:07
stefan_so what is it02:07
rosamindspin: ok, then ill do so!02:07
stefan_its a fresh installation02:07
stefan_so I dont know where to look02:08
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fredstefan_: ok try 'sudo apt-get install apt-setup'02:08
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stefan_okay, I get then apt-setup not found02:10
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fredhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/apt-setup <- well it is there somewhere :)02:10
fredtry "sudo apt-get update" and then the install02:11
pascalHi, I seem to have lost direct rendering during one of the last updates. Any idea what I can do to fix it?02:11
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pascalI have a radeon 9000 chip02:12
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Russelis there a tool like gnome-power-manager for kubuntu?02:13
HobbseeRussel: kpowersave02:13
Russeli tried it with the live cd, but suspend didn't work right... with gnome-power-manager it worked02:14
Jack1fred it worked fine and it plays audio cds now..but visualisations is greyed out for no reason..02:14
fredJack1: well that's bad :)02:15
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fredmy dht refuses to bootstrap after a relaunch, which package should i install ?02:15
fredapt-get install mybrain02:16
fredit replies notfound!!!02:16
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Jack1fred i was just wondering the xmms plugins are still there just not found..anway doesnt matter02:17
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cox377does anyone have experience with setting up wireless?02:26
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stefan_can someon help me?02:26
stefan_I can not find apt-setup02:26
stefan_on a frshh dapper installation02:27
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Philip5stefan_: i don't have it either02:30
Philip5stefan_: and don't need it02:30
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stefan_okay , how can I add the kubuntu-dvd in adept02:30
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stefan_I tried to load from cdrom but it says then could not open cdrom02:31
Philip5stefan_: in the menu you can choose to manage sources02:31
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Jack1anybody any idea in the latest amarok is visualisations greyed out even when playing music...02:32
Jack1so how to get them working?02:32
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Lt-Elmomorning all02:34
stefan_okay how should I add the kubuntu-dvd in adept?02:34
stefan_can not find a point to do it02:34
Lt-Elmocomparing ubuntu to kubuntu here, is it just me or is KDE quicker than gnome02:35
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cox377can anyone tell me a command to detect my wireless network command?02:36
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper02:41
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ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:42
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cox377i'm running iwconfig02:43
cox377and when i do02:43
cox377it lists02:43
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cox377LO, ETH0, ANd sit0 but doesnt list the wlan002:43
h3sp4wncox377: Which card are you using ?02:44
cox377hey h3sp4wn: it's a netgear dongle02:44
h3sp4wncox377: Trying to use ndiswrapper ?02:44
cox377i dont know which one it is as the stickers are missing off the side02:44
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cox377whats ndiswrapper?02:45
h3sp4wnIt allows you to use ndis (i.e windows) drivers for cards which have no native linux support02:45
weedarcox377: ndiswrapper lets you use windows drivers for your card02:45
cox377i dont know which card it is yet02:45
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cox377is there a command i can use to show me which card it is?02:46
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weedarcox377: lsusb should list all usb devices - so if it's an usb dongle you should find "netgear" somewhere in the output from "lsusb"02:46
cox377sorry for the paste but02:47
cox377root@admin-desktop:~# lsusb02:47
cox377Bus 005 Device 003: ID 1385:425102:47
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cox377Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:000002:47
cox377Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000002:47
cox377Bus 004 Device 003: ID 04b4:8081 Cypress Semiconductor Corp.02:47
cox377Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:000002:47
cox377Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000002:47
cox377Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000002:47
weedaruse www.pastebin.org or similar site to paste cox37702:47
cox377i tried to earlier but it kept giving me errors02:48
cox377h3sp4wn: can you tell from that @ all?02:48
isodudeHey, how is it all the configuration windows are so huge.. is there someway to make them smaller.. so you actually can press the buttons OK and so on when using lesser resolutions than 1280 :o02:48
h3sp4wncox377: No02:49
h3sp4wncox377: Doesn't even look like it is plugged in unless its the very top one02:50
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weedarisodude: that has annoyed me for quite a while! A partial solution seems to be to press ALT when clicking on the window to move it :/02:51
isodudeI've searched the forums, but nothing about the window sizes.02:51
cox377h3sp4wn: I'm assuming it is as there is only 2 USB devices now conneced02:51
isodudeI've also noticed that the sizes are set that big, so no resizes is allowed..02:52
ubotuI know nothing about usbids - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:53
h3sp4wnThere is a way of updating the usb id's but I don't know how to do it (searched google but can't fine it)02:53
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isodudeHm, I wonder, where do one find the default sizes for those configuration windows.02:53
darkadmiralhow can I find out, which sound driver my PC is using?02:53
cox377h3sp4wn: cheers for that, i've just been informed its a NETGEAR WG111T 108MB usb dongle02:53
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sotiredi need help to wipe and format a second hadd02:54
sotiredi tried to do it with makefs but no dice02:54
h3sp4wncox377: Madwifi does not support usb devices yet unfortunately :(02:54
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cox377h3sp4wn: i just ran update-usbids and it did so,me sorta update02:55
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cox377h3sp4wn: when i run lsusb again it hasnt made any difference to the results02:56
isodudeweedar: ever found anything about it on launchpad or ubuntuforums?02:56
cox377h3sp4wn:"Madwifi does not support usb devices yet unfortunately :(" what does that mean?02:56
uliwitnessHi. Newbie myself, but that sounds like a WLAN driver gets loaded and you have an USB-based WLAN adapter?02:58
uliwitnessAnd it doesn02:58
uliwitnessAnd it doesn't support anything but built-in or PCMCIA or whatever WLAN adapters? I.e. they haven't written the code to do USB-based ones?02:59
cox377uliwitness: u talking to me matE?02:59
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omeowhy sup m802:59
sotiredcan someone help me to format this drive? i formatted it with mke2fs but now i cannot access ir02:59
uliwitnesscox377: yup.03:00
cox377h3sp4wn: does this mean i'm buggered?03:00
trident523sotired: Are you clearing your drive, or, are you splitting a partition?03:00
cox377anyone: does this mean i'm buggered lol03:01
h3sp4wncox377: You can use ndiswrapper but you need to find the version of the windows driver it has been tested with or you will have stability problems03:01
sotiredTrident523: its a slaved in drive, was ntfs, i want to wipe it and format it to use it as storage for movies and large files03:01
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cox377well, if it's been installed on a windows box03:02
trident523sotired: I think that's a bug that some people are having... going to find that bug on the site... Also, I just installed about 2 hrs ago, but have been trying linux for the past 3 days.03:02
cox377h3sp4wn: can i get the driver from that?03:02
sotiredi dont think there is a bug...i just dont know what im doing. this isnt the drive ubuntu is on, its a second drive i just need to format03:03
trident523Well, I'm little to no help there. But, I thought I read about it earlier on the wiki.03:04
sotiredthanks anyway03:04
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h3sp4wncox377: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation03:04
sotiredi tired searching in googel...but all it tells me is how to do a dualboot03:05
sotiredi dont want that03:05
sotiredi just want to format this second drive to ext3 that spans the entire disk03:05
cox377h3sp4wn: cheers for that03:05
h3sp4wncox377: Maybe also search for your specific card and the driver version they used03:06
cox377just having a troll through the forms now03:07
cox377think this may have been a mistake installing kubuntu on my mates lappy03:07
cox377i dont think i was ready for the wireless step and just dont have the time03:07
h3sp4wncox377: I would try and install the latest version of ndiswrapper03:07
trident523cox377: What chipset?03:08
sotiredndiswrapper usually goes pretty quickly03:08
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cox377trident523: not sure what chipset it is03:09
uliwitnessIs it OK to ask kubuntu installer questions here?03:09
cox377i'm sure i just read what it was03:09
cox377athoes or something03:09
cox377let me try and find it03:09
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h3sp4wnatheros usb is not supported b y madwifi though03:09
cox377trident523: " atheros chip" apparently03:09
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cox377h3sp4wn: meaning i gotta try and use ndiswrapper?03:10
h3sp4wncox377: Yes03:10
h3sp4wncox377: It is alot more stable than it used to be but requires you to have a driver that is tested with it03:10
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cox377i've just installed it on a windows box to check it worked03:11
cox377so i can get the driver version from that?03:11
h3sp4wnMaybe but if I was you I would find out exactly which atheros chipset it uses03:12
h3sp4wnand use the one that ndiswrapper suggests for that03:12
trident523cox377: Hey, looks like I got some info. It's kind of old, but it might work. It's from 5.10, Breezy.03:12
trident523Bottom of wiki page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WirelessChipsets?highlight=%28Atheros%2903:13
Jack1hi in amarok 1.4.1 i cannot get the libvisual thing working...the visualsations are greyed ou03:13
Jack1 after reading the faq i still cannot find the xmms-config file03:13
trident523cox377: "Atheros' USB-chipsets are quite different from the PCI ones: Support planned for MadWifi 2.0, which is far away."03:14
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h3sp4wntrident523: ndiswrapper is getting alot better (and it supports hotplug maybe better than madwifi)03:15
cox377trident523: so it says that there is no problems with that chipset? so i go ahead and install ndiswrapper?03:15
mathewferHi Can anyone know how to get the WPA up with Kubuntu 6.06?03:15
h3sp4wnmathewfer: What card ?03:16
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trident523cox: Shure, I'm just hunting down info. That is what I do. But, I'm not a bot.03:16
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h3sp4wnSomeone needs to bother getting all the drivers for ndiswrapper (best working ones in one place)03:17
cox377i've just found a kubuntu guide for installing my card03:18
stefan_I want to add the kubuntu dvd in sources.list with no success03:18
cox377shall let u know how it does03:18
mathewferh3sp4wn: It is D-Link DWL-G520 (Atheros). NIC is detected properly03:18
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trident523h3sp4wn: Wouldnt you need a bunch of wireless cards to test?03:18
stefan_can someone tell me how to do this?03:18
h3sp4wnmathewfer: pci or pcmcia (i.e not usb()03:18
h3sp4wnmathewfer: iwlist ath0 scan03:19
h3sp4wnmathewfer: can you see the accesspoint (i.e that its using wpa)03:19
mathewferYes, it sees my netowrk03:19
Melchiorr1stefan_: deb file:///media/sda/Ubuntu/UbuntuMirror/Dapper Dapper main restricted  universe multiverse  (modify the path to where your cd drive is ;))03:19
section31_Does Network Manager work with Atheros cards?03:20
mathewferWPA _Suplicant worked with Ubuntu 5.10 nut now with Kubuntu 6.06, no luck.03:20
h3sp4wnmathewfer: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (network manager doesn't work with atheros properly)03:20
Melchiorr1stefan_: err, sorry, wrong entry03:20
h3sp4wnmathewfer: ^^ that tells you the new way to configure wpa_supplicant03:20
Melchiorr1stefan_: don't use that, hang on a tick03:20
h3sp4wnsection31_: sort of works but not reliably (scanning all the time makes the connection unreliable)03:21
mathewferwhat is the new way? I see a file xxupdown.sh03:21
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h3sp4wnmathewfer: You just set it up from /etc/network/interfaces (that text file explains it all perfectly) if there is any part of it you don't understand ask me03:22
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mathewferIs there any document/howto/URL or how to contact you?03:22
cox377does anyopne know the apt-get install command for ndiswrapper?03:23
Hobbsee_cox377: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils03:23
ubuntuHow do you move files from harddisk to usb drive using command03:23
cox377what an idiot03:23
cox377already had it installed03:23
mathewferh3sp2wn, any replies03:25
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ubotuI know nothing about nividia - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:26
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h3sp4wnmathewfer: That is the only document which explains the new way to setup wpa_supplicant (man wpa_supplicant is really outdated)03:27
mathewferwhat is the document - which file name?03:27
Jack1h3sp4wn can u help?03:28
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h3sp4wnmathewfer: scroll up I have given it to you twice03:28
Jack1after an upgrade to amarok 1.4.1 visualisation wont work anymore (with plugins of xmms being isntalled)03:29
Jack1advice on their site is: You probably don't have xmms-config installed, reconfigure and build after installing the appropriate xmms-devel package. You also may want to install the latest version of libvisual, which has some ultra fancy visualizations.03:29
Jack1but this xmms-config is nowhere!03:29
Jack1hiya Hobbsee#03:30
Hobbseehey Jack103:30
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Hobbseeimbrandon: might know03:31
Jack1imbrandon are u there?03:31
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Jack1can u help with the xmms-config?03:35
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Jack1as i said above after upgrading to kde 3.5.3 and amarok1.4.1 visialisations wont work anymore03:36
imbrandoni dont know much about xmms but i de know there is/was issues with amarok 141 and libvis03:36
Jack1they advise u to get the latest libvisuals thing which i did03:36
imbrandonlibvisual0.4 ?03:37
Jack1 You probably don't have xmms-config installed, reconfigure and build after installing the appropriate xmms-devel package.03:37
Jack1imbrandon no i got via synaptic just the o.203:37
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Jack1i c03:37
cox377right, this is how far i've got03:37
imbrandon141 uses libvis0.4 BUT its not in dapper atm so we buildt with 0.2 i know the issues03:37
cox377install the river athfmwdl.inf03:38
cox377and it says installed and hardware present03:38
imbrandonJack1, hold on one moment03:38
cox377i tried installing the wg111t.inf and it said hardware was not present03:38
cox377so i'm assuming the athfmwdl is the one of choice03:38
Jack1so i get the 0.4 and dismiss the xmms-config? sure imbrandon+03:38
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imbrandonJack1, remove amarok 141 ( from saynaptic ) and grab all the debs from this address and install and see what happens ( http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ ) thats my personal build of amarok14103:39
h3sp4wncox377: So if you remove it and put it back in does wlan0 appear ?03:39
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cox377forgot about that03:40
imbrandonJack1, with libvis 0.403:40
cox377h3sp4wn: let me just check03:40
cox377h3sp4wn: wlan0 isn't present when i run iwconfig03:40
Jack1imbrandon ok03:40
imbrandonbrb afk03:40
imbrandonJack1, if you have more issues you can PM me later but i'll be afk about 1.5 hours03:41
h3sp4wncox377: I don't know much about ndiswrapper03:41
cox377h3sp4wn: and when i run the wireless lan manager it says no suitable device found03:41
h3sp4wncox377: Have you loaded the module ?03:41
Jack1imbrandon wait 1 mom03:41
cox377h3sp4wn: shame : (03:41
Jack1via apt-get remove?03:41
Jack1or complete unistall via synaptic?03:41
Jack1imbrandon how?03:41
imbrandonyea thats fine, then get all the debs from above and run " sudo dpkg -i *.deb "03:42
Jack1ok thx03:42
imbrandoneither way03:42
imbrandonwill work fine03:42
cox377h3sp4wn: what sthe module?03:42
Jack1imbrandon thx03:42
imbrandonnp bbiab03:42
h3sp4wncox377: Are you following the instructions from the ndiswrapper wiki ?03:43
rysiek|plhi guys. a short one here, hopefully: I have upgraded from Breezy to Dapper and now have the device (cdrom, dvdrom, NFS-share) icons on my desktop; I would dearly love to remove them, so that the NFS-share icon goes away completely, and the cd/dvd icons show up only if/after the cd/dvd is inserted. any pointers?03:43
cox377h3sp4wn: ummmm must admit i wasn,t i shall look their now03:44
Jack1imbrandon i use the 686 kernel but see just the i386 there03:44
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imbrandoni386 is compatable with 68603:45
imbrandon686 is a subarch the real arch is i38603:45
imbrandonthus they will be fine ( 98% of the packages you ahve instaled now are i386  )03:45
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h3sp4wnimbrandon: Does anyone use ubuntu on a 386/486 (I pity them if they do)03:46
imbrandonh3sp4wn, i have it on a 486dx4 alppy 03:46
fredq. is there an apps to do 'a distributed whiteboard over the internet' ?03:47
h3sp4wnimbrandon: And you would say it is usably fast ?03:47
imbrandonfred gobby03:47
imbrandonh3sp4wn, its not terrible ( fluxbox )03:47
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h3sp4wnimbrandon: How different is it to debian sarge ? in terms of speed03:48
imbrandonfred there are others , try google, but gobby comes to miind, we used that for the paris UDS03:48
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imbrandonh3sp4wn, never used debian sarge in my life, i was a SuSE guy before i came to ubuntu03:49
VeinorWhen I downloaded the iso from kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso.torrent and tried to burn it in cdburnerxp pro 3, it said the .iso wasn't valid03:50
h3sp4wnimbrandon: I thought your webserver run's sarge ?03:51
VeinorAnybody have any ideas why this would be?03:51
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section31_Veinor: Your download may have gotten corrupted. Try downloading again.03:52
VeinorKay. I'm downloading direct as well as the alternate torrent, hopefully that'll work03:53
section31_Its great to have broadband isn't it?03:53
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cox377h3sp4wn: u still about mate?03:53
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h3sp4wncox377: Yes03:54
cox377can u click on this link please03:54
cox377the very first link shows my card within the list03:54
cox377under the desciption03:54
cox377but when u open the page03:55
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cox377it isnt there03:55
cox377or am i going nuts?03:55
fredimbrandon, i looked and gobby seems to be text only, no ? look at http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben called coccinela (it is over jabber)03:55
h3sp4wncox377: http://www.netgear.de/download/WG111T/WG111T_GRV1.2.zip (that is the driver you should be using)03:55
cox377h3sp4wn: for some reason the full page wasnt showing of the list03:56
cox377but i got it03:56
h3sp4wncox377: Which version of ndiswrapper are you trying to use ?03:57
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cox377h3sp4wn: not sure, ummm the latest i would have though03:58
rysiek|plasked, but got no answer, trying once more: I have upgraded from Breezy to Dapper and now have the device (cdrom, dvdrom, NFS-share) icons on my desktop; I would dearly love to remove them, so that the NFS-share icon goes away completely, and the cd/dvd icons show up only if/after the cd/dvd is inserted. any pointers?03:58
ubotuWant to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)03:59
LjLmight help03:59
LjLthough i guess, not really03:59
imbrandon_rysiek|pl: right click on the desktop and choose behaveure on the left, then the last tab on the right04:00
imbrandon_its in ther04:00
rysiek|plthx, checking04:00
LjLhm yea that sounds more like it04:01
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rysiek|plyeah, that's it, I guess. I'll just mangle a wee bit with it, thanks04:03
h3sp4wncox377: Are you using release 1.21 ?04:04
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cox377h3sp4wn: looked under detailed from the adept manager and it says 1.804:04
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h3sp4wncox377: I would remove the one from adept and use 1.2104:07
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cox377how do i install something thats not in the package manager?04:07
LjLcox377: first, make sure it's really not there (i.e. not in a repository that you didn't enable)04:08
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!04:08
h3sp4wncox377: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-38604:08
LjLcox377: after you know for a fact that it's not there, then it depends entirely on the program and the way it's shipped04:08
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h3sp4wncox377: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.21.tar.gz?download04:08
h3sp4wncox377: If you can't get it working there is no way the ndiswrapper people will even take a look unless you are using the latest stable version04:09
h3sp4wnLjL: Unless you know enough about ndiswrapper to help him (I don't)04:10
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cox377ljl: i'm not sure what you mean about repository that i didnt enable04:11
LjLh3sp4wn: no, unfortunately for him my house is radiowave free :)04:11
cox377mine to04:11
cox377this is a wired house04:11
cox377it's my mates that is wireless04:11
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LjLcox377: nevermind that, at least for ndiswrapper... but there are many programs that *are* in Ubuntu, but you can't see them by default unless you enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories04:11
knobive got them enabled04:12
knobby the way04:12
knobthis is also cox37704:12
knobswapping between lappy and desktop04:12
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LjLtried asking in #ubuntu? more people there04:13
larson9999i'm curious why the new openoffice builds aren't done.  it's been a while and isn't that considered a major app?04:13
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Hobbseelarson9999: for which distro?  dapper?04:13
larson9999Hobbsee: yeah04:13
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Why don't you do them if you want them that bad04:13
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LjLlarson9999: dapper doesn't get updates, unless it's security fixes or major bugs...04:14
larson9999h3sp4wn: i already installed them.  just asking as a matter of how things usually work04:14
Hobbseeh3sp4wn: oh gosh.  suggesting that someone compile OO.o?  ouch04:14
LjLHobbsee: well, if the package's there in edgy (which i don't know), it might not even be too hard to compile the source package. not that i'd look forward at trying that anyway04:15
nix_chix0rhrm yea so i'm in kubuntu and it won't let me stall I seem to be having issues with partitioning04:15
imbrandon_Hobbsee: heh  h3sp4wn makes a point to try the old school way even if its not "user friendly" as the ubnutu cree04:15
nix_chix0rI was supprised it supported my pci adapter like right away04:15
Hobbseeimbrandon_: true04:15
mustechi have a strange problem04:16
HobbseeLjL: not for OO.o...sheesh!  :P04:16
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cox377h3sp4wn: thing is that is really weird is that i downloaded the drivers suggested, when i go to add them to ndiswrapper they dont add04:16
mustechi cant change any thing from any package installer04:16
larson9999LjL: so for instance, screenkast just when from .1.1 to .1.2.  are you telling me .1.2 probably won't make it to the dapper repos?04:17
mustechlike adept,kpackage04:17
imbrandon_larson9999: exatly04:17
LjLlarson9999: i'm telling you it *certainly* won't make it04:17
imbrandon_it will be in edgy04:17
nix_chix0rlol cox377 at least you got that far, I can't even install the stupid thing, kubuntu that is. and it's funny because I had Genpoo before, and things were fine till I rebooted and had grub errors =)04:17
LjLlarson9999: only possibility is the Backports repository. apps are backported to there on an on-demand basis, and only when it's considered feasible/"easy enough". and dapper backports is not yet open anyway04:17
nix_chix0ri click the install icon and let it do it's thing and it's like yea......... partitioning.. i'm a whore04:18
cox377looks like i'm going to have to install ndiswrapper the manual way04:18
cox377never done that before04:18
mustechcan i have some help here ?04:18
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nix_chix0rcox377: installing that isn't that hard04:18
nix_chix0rthere is a wiki how to for that as well i think04:18
cyberyderanyone has 5 minutes so i can ask a few question about linux04:18
larson9999LjL: ok.  i count the backports as in the repos.  i was a little confused because just the other day people in here told me 'they' were working on building the new ooo04:19
nix_chix0rcyberyder: , www.lowfatlinux.com04:19
nix_chix0rtake five minutes and go there04:19
LjLmustech: possibly, but "i can't change anything from any package installer" isn't too helpful for me as a description of the problem. could you elaborate? i assume you're trying to install applications under Adept, and failing?04:19
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LjLlarson9999: hm but wouldn't that be for Edgy? i doubt that something as big as OO.o would ever end up in Backports, even though... well perhaps it doesn't really have too many dependencies04:20
mustechthis is what happens when i try to install or remove any thing04:20
LjLmustech: ok i'm not familiar with Adept, could you try installing the same package using apt-get? "sudo apt-get install <packagename>"04:21
rysiek|plimbrandon_: that didn't quite solve it, though; when I de-select "Unmounted CDRoms" and such - I just get no cd/dvd icons whatsoever, even though I have "Mounted CDRoms" and "Audio CD's", etc., still selected. Whatismore, when I plug-in my mp3-player (via USB), the icon does not show either, regardless of all the settings in that tab that might concern it.04:21
larson9999LjL: i don't know.  i'm knew to ubuntu and am just trying to get a feel if i should wait for packages to hit the repos or build my own.  in the mandrake world there were packages of just about everything i wanted almost as soon as it came out.04:21
mustechi'll try04:21
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Mandriva cooker is more upto date than edgy at the moment isn't it ?04:22
abattoirrosa: hello. problem solved?04:22
LjLlarson9999: not the same here, i don't think. you really mostly have to wait for the next ubuntu version (due to October), except for things that get into the backports. and things that do are usually relatively "small" packages with few dependencies04:22
HawkwindHe's not referring to cooker though04:22
larson9999h3sp4wn: likely. but i'm not sure.  i didn't use cooker.04:22
larson9999Hawkwind: you always think you know what i mean.04:23
larson9999Hawkwind: and it so happens you do :)04:23
LjLlarson9999: on the other hand, if you want to see such a "small" package in the Backports repos, asking for it in the appropriate forum will probably get it added -- i mean, after Backports opens at any rate04:23
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imbrandon_form no, lp file yes04:24
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larson9999LjL: i'm comfortable compiling on my own or using alien to convert rpms.  but if there is a package i feel strongly should make it to backports, i'll do that.04:25
nix_chix0r< i've never used kubuntu but why does it seem like it's a live cd that you can install to bcome an actuall distro kinda like knoppix or what ever?04:26
nix_chix0rand why is it being a whore04:26
mustechE: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).04:27
nix_chix0rwon't let me partion the hard drive e04:27
mustechthat what it says04:27
h3sp4wnnix_chix0r: If you install using the alternative cd (you get a better - more stable installer)04:27
larson9999nix_chix0r: you think just because your nick has 'chix' in it we will take that from you?  you're probably right.04:27
LjLlarson9999: just to make sure - you know using alien can be bad, and you know about checkinstall, right?04:27
nix_chix0rlarson9999:  i'm actually female though04:27
LjLmustech: do what it says04:27
LjLmustech: though add a sudo. "sudo apt-get -f install"04:27
nix_chix0rh3sp4wn:  i grabbed the latest one i saw on kubuntu haha04:28
nix_chix0rso what alternative cd is there04:28
mustechit says Correcting dependencies... failed04:28
LjLnix_chix0r: the alternate cd contains a text-mode installer04:28
LjLmustech: welcome to trouble04:28
programmer""hello.cpp:4: error: \200\230i\200\231 does not name a type"" can anyone help? in kubuntu i am unable to decipher the error message as the characters printed for error seems not to be ascii04:28
LjLmustech: does it say anything else?04:28
h3sp4wnnix_chix0r: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso04:28
nix_chix0rlarson9999: and take what from me, my asking what's up with the cd? how is that bad?04:29
larson9999LjL: yep.  i know all about screwing my systems up.04:29
LjLprogrammer: is that an hello world program? does it print "hello world" in a language other than english?04:29
larson9999nix_chix0r: err, just joking04:29
LjLlarson9999: good then, as long as you know it :)04:29
nix_chix0rh3sp4wn:  thanks for that i'ma have to email it to myself hahaha04:29
nix_chix0rcause i'm in kubuntu right now04:30
h3sp4wnnix_chix0r: You can install from the livecd04:30
nix_chix0rand was fairly supprised it detected the network for the pci adapter right04:30
nix_chix0rh3sp4wn: oh yea?04:30
nix_chix0ri tried that04:30
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nix_chix0rit's being dumb04:30
programmerLjL. it's a hello world program. but it prints in english only.04:30
LjLprogrammer: could you pastebin the source?04:30
h3sp4wnnix_chix0r: I have never tried it because I know how bad it was before04:30
larson9999nix_chix0r: the joke was referring to calling kubuntu a whore.  but i was just teasing.  it's ok. females have a long history of thinking i'm not funny.  they're all wrong obviously04:30
rysiek|pla dumb question, probably: should I, on Kubuntu Dapper, have HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) installed to have my usbsticks and such auto-discovered and auto-mounted?04:31
LjLmustech, does the error message say anything else?04:31
nix_chix0rlarson9999: =) your a big boy you can take it , < is assuming ;p and i'm reffering to you being sort of grown up04:31
rosaabattoir: not really.... right now Im trying to upgrade kubuntu breezy to dapper,with which it should go better, but without beeing able to print....04:32
nix_chix0rwell kubuntu is being a whore lol04:32
larson9999nix_chix0r: put it this way.  i'm not too far away from getting aarp spam04:32
h3sp4wnnix_chix0r: I would trust https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix (that method more than using expresso)04:32
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nix_chix0rsee now i have to download the knoppix cd again04:33
nix_chix0ri had a bad burn04:33
nix_chix0rhaha aarp, i love those commercials04:33
h3sp4wnnix_chix0r: Just get the altenative cd (or if you want a livecd use kanotix)04:33
larson9999rysiek|pl: i'm just a goof but i do believe you need HAL for that.04:34
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HobbseeJack1: heya04:35
rysiek|pllarson9999: darn, now the question is: why the heck did the apt-get dist-upgrade from Breezy to Dapper actually *remove* it?..04:35
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rysiek|pllarson9999: anyways, just installing it, thx04:35
rosadoes anyone know how it is possible to be online with aol on kubuntu dapper?04:36
Jack1i installed the packages of imbramdon for amarok all works fine just the mouse icon shivers like...04:36
LjLrysiek|pl: perhaps you didn't have kubuntu-desktop installer. or whatnot. i couldn't upgrade from breezy at all, myself04:36
Jack1dont know04:36
programmerLjL. I pasted code at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1815604:36
programmerLjL. I pasted code at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1815604:36
Jack1guess this is a bug Hobbsee04:36
nix_chix0ralright i'm going to give this a whirl, h3sp4wn> thanks for the link04:36
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HobbseeJack1: could well be.  tell imbrandon_ to fix it :P04:36
larson9999rosa: aol?  egads!!04:36
Jack1yes will do04:36
Jack1bye lads04:37
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nix_chix0raol o.O // dies//04:37
headachehey any hackers here... i need www.mavishare.com 's php code. simple. i pay 5,000$ if youre successful - that is all, msg me ill be on freenode all day04:37
nix_chix0rta ta04:37
rysiek|plLjL: I had it and I upgraded (*cough*!) nicely - now I'm just spending the third day on making it work as I like it (as I had Breezy to work)04:37
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LjLprogrammer: well first thing, i see a space between "i" and "nt" in the word "int" -- assuming that's really a space and not some weird character04:38
rosai dont like aol, but its the only possible way to go online for the next two month! so please: does anyone know?04:38
larson9999i upgraded breezy to dapper and it went ok.  i had installed breezy about a week before dapper came out.04:39
rosawenn i upgraded breezy to dapper all my pathes were killed.....04:39
LjLprogrammer: i'm guessing the source contains some nonprintable (unicode, whatever) characters that you can't see in the editor. try copying and pasting to a new file04:39
rysiek|pllarson9999: that's why. you had a clean, unmangled Breezy instalation, without those additional 2k packages and 5k self-changed thingies :)04:40
programmerLjL: to generate the error message i purposefully put a space between i and nt. the problem i have is not with the source code, but the display of error message. i am unable to see the characters displayed. and i see this when i use kubuntu04:41
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak04:41
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larson9999rysiek|pl: oh.  well, i keep a decent record of the 'non-repo' changes i make and undo those before trying to upgrade.  it was a little trick i found in mandriva that help when doing upgrades.04:41
rysiek|pllarson9999: aww, that's my bad I didn't do that.04:42
LjLprogrammer: i see. well... does the command "locale" say you're using en_US.UTF-8?04:42
HobbseeLjL: what?04:42
larson9999rysiek|pl: but in that week.  i installed plenty of stuff.  i'm bad about installing all sorts of crap and not removing it once it's clear i'll never use it04:43
LjLHobbsee: headache, see above04:43
Hobbseeoh, spamming?04:43
LjLHobbsee: i'd call it more than that, but anyway04:44
LjLi think it's actually a felony if you want to be precise04:44
LjLincitazione a delinquere, incitation to commit a crime, whatever you'd call it in english04:44
programmerLjL: the "locale" command says en_IN04:44
rysiek|pllarson9999: aye, same here. well, I have only three things left on my "MakeDapperWork" checklist, so it's not *that* bad :004:44
HobbseeLjL: good point04:44
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LjLprogrammer, Hobbsee: by the way, why does *my* "locale" say i'm using en_AU.UTF-8? what have you done to my system hobbsee? ;-P04:46
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HobbseeLjL: no idea.  i've done nothing at all w.r.t locales :P04:46
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LjLprogrammer: jokes aside, try setting those variables to en_US.UTF-8 , and try compiling... don't worry, they will revert to the previous values anyway04:47
larson9999rysiek|pl: but really, if you have a good idea of your normal customizations, i really think installing from scratch is just about as fast as upgrading.  plus i found that if i go ahead and burn and install cd for myself, i comes in handing when friends see my cool, free system and one me to help them install it on their system.04:47
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programmerLjL:thanks i'll try and see04:48
rysiek|pllarson9999: good point. although I just like to be able to tell: "I have just upgraded my system from version A to version B - now, my friend, just *try* to do the same with WinXP and Vista!" :)04:48
LjLprogrammer: i think you can type "export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8; export LANG=en_US.UTF-8; export LANGUAGE=en_US:en"04:48
LjLprogrammer: that should set them all04:49
larson9999rysiek|pl: plus if there are issues, you're not constantly thinking it's due to something wrong with the upgrade process.04:49
rysiek|pllarson9999: this system is originally Hoary, upgraded to Breezy (no problems then) and now - to Dapper04:49
rysiek|pllarson9999: another good point. two more machines to be upgraded, so it's worth considering04:49
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larson9999rysiek|pl: well, i'm happily off of windows for good for some time now(personal life) but i upgraded iirc from windows 3.1 to win95 to win98 to xp.  not sure about 3.1 to 95 though.04:50
rysiek|pllarson9999: "upgraded" and not "installed from scratch"?..04:51
larson9999rysiek|pl: but there is some satisfaction in bragging about those kinds of things.  but i'm just not into the whole '3 million uptime days' thing.  i turn my system off nightly.04:51
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rysiek|plI've got a system that acts as a server, so the "3M uptime days" is just the way it *should* work. my own desktop goes down every night, too04:53
rysiek|pl, though04:54
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larson9999rysiek|pl: yep.  there was a machine change in there between 95 and 98 but i kept the install on the same hd.  i'm guessing with the M$ licensing crap, that might be hard to do from xp to vista04:54
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Harmentalhow do u set up a webcam??04:56
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programmer_LjL: i set them as u said and recompiled, but the error message shows the same i.e., "hello.cpp:4: error: i does not name a type" when i use the locale command it says en_US.UTF-804:58
larson9999is there a04:58
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:58
LjLprogrammer_: well at least it's not giving you a bunch of \escaped charcodes =)04:58
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programmer_LjL: yes :)04:59
programmer_LjL: is there any way05:02
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LjLprogrammer_ i don't really know, i just get test.cpp:4: error: i does not name a type05:03
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dek_aikHelp...why there is a "34"  if i put "man:something" in konqueror? ..is it relating to encoding? my encoding is set to automatic detection--semi automatic05:06
Harmentalshould I use easycam or easycam2???05:07
dek_aikfor example it is supposed to be "device" but it shows "34"device"34"05:07
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haffeHello. I would like to switch from ubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop. Apt-getting kubuntu-desktop is simple enough, but I want to remove all of ubuntu-desktop.05:25
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LjLhaffe: it's not too easy05:27
LjLhaffe: you can remove libgnome, but some stuff might be left around05:27
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dek_aikLjL: can you help me with my problem?05:29
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programmer_How can i see the laptop battery charge left with a command?05:31
Hawkwinddek_aik: What problem ?  State your question and most anyone might be able to help05:31
dek_aikHelp...why there is a '34'  if i put "man:something" in konqueror?05:32
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larson9999LjL: maybe i'm not so comfortable compiling... this glut configure error with screenkast is killing me :)05:32
dek_aikfor example it is supposed to be "device" but it shows '34'device'34'05:33
programmer_Also i'm asking my problem again,on my kubuntu system i gets displayed as  i and also while viewing man pages some characters aren't displayed correctly.05:33
dek_aikprogrammer_: i guess my problem is similar to your05:34
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programmer_dek_aik: did u any try any solutions05:34
dek_aikprogrammer_: i try to change the konqueror menu view-encoding to manual and try every option from western to utf8..no result05:35
LjLlarson9999: well when configure scripts are broken...05:39
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LjLlarson9999: try auto-apt perhaps05:39
abattoirprogrammer_: 'acpi' should show you info about your laptop's battery/ies05:40
larson9999LjL: the configure script is borken?05:40
LjLlarson9999: i don't know, i've just seen lots of broken configure scripts05:40
larson9999LjL: thanks for the vote of confidence but it's probably due to me being a moron05:41
larson9999i like to blame myself first.05:41
larson9999LjL: seems to be a glut issue that's known but i still can't find the fix for.05:43
larson9999give me a year or two and i'm sure i can figure it out.05:43
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LjLlarson9999: gee, that thing depends on, like, every library known to man05:46
larson9999the configure error is glutInit not found install glut.05:47
larson9999of course i think i already have glut installed05:48
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LjLi'm still at libavcodec :)05:48
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rosai am at ttf-devanagari-fonts !!!05:49
LjLi hope it's not screenkast that requires *that* :-P05:50
LjLthough i think that's a package i actually have05:50
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LjLok i'm at glut05:51
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LjLlarson9999: are you talking about libinstrudeo or screenkast? 'cause with libinstrudeo i installed glutg3-dev and it was happy05:51
larson9999LjL: lol what are you installing?05:52
larson9999LjL: thanks but you didn't need to go through the trouble.05:52
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LjLi've just got nothing real to do05:52
larson9999LjL: screenkast05:52
LjLah so you got libinstrudeo compiled already05:52
trident523*chough* I left my IRC on? Oh well.05:52
larson9999i got libinstrudeo installed.  i think i had to install about 20 apps for it.  or so it seemed05:52
LjLpossibly more05:53
LjLif it asks me for one more library i'm going to install OS/2 =)05:53
larson9999and then about 3 or 4 before i got to the glut issue05:53
LjLglibmm? GLIBMM? no it must be kidding me05:54
larson9999i wonder if you installed the screenkast 1.1 if apt-get would install the dependencies and then you could compile the new version and hopefully most of the dependencies wouldn't have changed?05:54
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LjLlarson9999: uh... there'a a screenkast in the reps?05:55
Harmentalgeneral question for all latex lovers out there.....05:55
larson9999i thought i saw .1.1 but it doesn't have the features i want05:55
Harmentalwhat is your tool for latexing?05:55
LjL!info screenkast05:55
ubotuPackage screenkast does not exist in dapper05:55
LjLunless it goes by some weird name...05:56
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larson9999LjL: oh guess i'm wrong.  lemme see if i can find where i saw that.05:56
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larson9999LjL: ok. not there.05:57
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LjLWHAT THE HECK did checkinstall just do05:58
LjLi don't have sudo access anymore05:58
h3sp4wnLjL: checkinstall always breaks stuff05:59
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LjLnot *this* kind of way, last time i tried05:59
LjLsome of my KDE applets have disappeared, i don't have access to sudo *or* permissions to read from the screenkast directory... and then hell knows what06:00
LjLactually, i have a "permission denied" on my entire home06:00
larson9999LjL: that doesn't sound good06:00
LjLon the entire *disk*06:00
LjLok, i can't even enter a new shell06:01
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LjL... or login in any way06:01
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larson9999let me remove checkinstall06:02
LjLlarson9999: mind you, i did something that's probably unadviceable with it (but still..)06:03
LjLlarson9999: i run "sudo checkinstall", but then realized i hadn't run "make" at all, so ctrl+c'ed, and now system's 100% broken06:03
larson9999LjL: checkinstall warning on next release: playing russian roulette with this may be fatal... or worse.06:04
LjLlet's see if i can at least reach the pastebin and record what has happened06:04
LjLheck it's not even fatal with *apt-get*, most of the times06:05
larson9999control c ing while sudo has caused me some pain in the past06:05
LjLAn error occurred while loading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/:06:05
LjLCould not start process Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied.06:05
LjLok, so no pastebin06:05
LjLlarson9999: can you make me a favor? if you join some channel, say #ljl, and i'll paste my shell log, so you can put it into the pastebin06:06
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larson9999i'm there06:07
LjLok, i suppose my IRC client won't allow me to type anything for a while, while i'm pasting06:07
LjLi'm starting06:07
kurzweil4hello, ..I need to resize my main partition, but when I installed Kubuntu it put the swap partition at the end instead of the beginning ....I can't move it because it is in use ...how do I take it out of use so I can move it?06:08
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LjLwhy didn't Konversation's flood protection work *just* the one time i really needed it06:11
LjLlarson9999: i'm on windows from another computer, can't reconnect from my Ubuntu box, it doesn't resolve hostnames anymore06:12
CntryboyAnyone know of a site where I can go download free awesome screen savers?06:13
larson9999LjL: i'm assuming that little bit won't help any06:13
LjLi'll try if i can connect using freenode's IP address06:13
larson9999how many people does it take to install screenkast?06:14
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LynoureCntryboy: what kind you conside awesome? the repos already contain a bunch06:14
larson9999let's ask the owl. he knows everything06:14
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Cntryboylynoure: Maybe but I can't preview them so I have no idea what they are06:14
larson9999maybe hawkwind can include screenkast in his new awesome ubuntu repository06:15
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Cntryboylynoure: and the ones that came with kubuntu are plain terrible06:15
Cntryboyubuntu gnome has some cool ones06:15
LynoureCntryboy: what kind do you usually like?06:15
Cntryboygl type06:15
Cntryboysomething that doesn't look made with little dots lol, something worth looking at06:16
LjL-Ubuntularson9999: blargh, i can't even re-activate Konversation's flood protection... i can't access Konv's settings, they're all grayed out =)06:16
LjL-Ubuntuit's like i'm the "nobody" user06:16
Cntryboyanyway to put in ubuntu cd and pull them off of it?06:16
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LynoureCntryboy: I'm prolly the worst person ever to point you to some, as in my world it's either black screen or RSS feed aggregator, and haven't found a nice latter one :) But let me check06:17
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Cntryboywish someone knew of a site where I could preview them, 2.1KB dialup here06:18
Cntryboyeither that or know how to pull them off of gnomes ubuntu disc for this kubuntu06:18
larson9999LjL: oh boy.06:18
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larson9999you can't just list the ubuntu cd as a source?06:19
abattoirCntryboy: kde-look.org ?06:19
LjL-Ubuntularson9999: at least i *hope* i'm "just" something like the nobody user, because the other option is most of my files being deleted... >:  though i don't think that could actually happen in such a short time06:19
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larson9999LjL: why would check install delete anything?  or do anything distrctive?  seems like it should just be 'checking' stuff?06:20
larson9999or does is actually 'do' stuff06:20
javamy wireless card (linksys) shows up as interface = wlan0, however the wiki states it should show up as auth0.. should this be a problem06:21
Cntryboyabattoir: thx06:21
HobbseeLjL-Ubuntu: ubotu has access control now, FYI06:21
Cntryboylet me look through them06:21
LjL-Ubuntuhobbsee: i know, but i've always had access to it, it's just that right now i'm having a few problems06:22
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grizzlyIS it necessary to install xgl for compiz? ?06:28
grizzlyOr am i confused06:28
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Cntryboy_how can I kill my cntryboy id so I can use it?06:35
programmerhow can i start ubuntu in console mode?06:35
larson9999holly smokes! all the different glut stuff is confusing06:36
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Cntryboy_abattoir: what is this fix, and do I need it 3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2_FIX06:36
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Cntryboy_was on the screensaver site u sent me to06:36
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abattoirCntryboy: last i heard, there was a bug in the KDE 3.5.3 packages related to that... do you have 3.5.3?06:37
larson9999how to you find the file names that are in a given package?06:37
Cntryboy_abattoir: not sure how can I see?06:37
larson9999like i want to know which package has foo.h?06:37
Cntryboy_I might have 3.5.206:37
Cntryboy_but not sure06:37
abattoirCntryboy: in any KDE app, Help-> About KDE06:37
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Cntryboy_so I dont need it then right06:38
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programmerhow can i start ubuntu in console mode?06:38
h3sp4wnlarson9999: dpkg -S foo.h (if you install kde-devel you get most of the kde stuff)06:38
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abattoirCntryboy: then i guess it doesnt pertain to you. :)06:38
TonrenHey all, I'm having trouble getting a Theme I downloaded to work with QtCurve.  Has anyone had this trouble before?06:38
LjL-Ubuntularson9999: you can use apt-file or auto-apt06:38
ubotuI know nothing about auto-apt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:38
ubotuapt-file is a program that can tell you in which package you can find the files you look for. sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update06:38
LjL-Ubuntu!info auto-apt06:38
ubotuauto-apt: package search by file and on-demand package installation tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.20 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 216 kB06:38
LjL-Ubuntularson9999: you need to "sudo auto-apt update" (or same with apt-file) before you can use them06:38
LjL-Ubuntularson9999: i'll try a DCC to you and pasting my log there, if you don't mind06:39
larson9999sure will my dcc work? i haven't dccd since the 90's06:39
LjL-Ubuntularson9999: who knows. i'm behind an ISP NAT, as well, so i really don't know - haven't used DCC since long, either06:40
Cntryboy_anyone know how to kill nicknames that are lagging behind06:40
Cntryboy_my cntryboy id is still here06:40
abattoirCntryboy_: /msg nickserv ghost username password06:40
Cntryboy_thx ya06:40
LjLlarson9999: getting anything?06:41
Cntryboynot sure what cuases them to lag behind06:41
larson9999LjL: it aborted06:42
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LjLlarson9999: ok can you try DCCing me yourself?06:42
larson9999LjL: it errors before i get a chance to click it06:42
LjLlarson9999: [16:45]  [Error]  Connection broken, error code 15.06:43
DammitCoetzeeyou know what. every single ubuntu distribution needs an expert configuration setting06:43
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DammitCoetzeewhere all the stupifdified menus06:43
DammitCoetzeeare normal06:43
DammitCoetzeeso i dont have to keep undumbing kde06:43
sanpsedopeople from france?06:44
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:44
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sanpsedook merci06:44
larson9999LjL: i don't have apt-file06:44
h3sp4wnDammitCoetzee: Just use kcontrol (instead of system settings)06:45
LjLlarson9999: i know but it's in the repos06:45
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larson9999LjL: apt-get says it isn't06:45
DammitCoetzeei do06:45
DammitCoetzeebut still06:45
DammitCoetzeeits a pain06:45
LjLlarson9999: it's in universe i guess06:45
LjL!info apt-file06:45
ubotuapt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.7ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 92 kB06:45
DammitCoetzeesince ubuntu is my first linux distro that i use veryday06:45
DammitCoetzeeso i keep finding where other people have this control over their system06:46
larson9999LjL: type-o06:46
DammitCoetzeebut its gone06:46
DammitCoetzeein ubuntu based systems06:46
LjLi need to go now, will leave the computer on so hopefully i can find a way to paste my shell history later06:46
fredDammitCoetzee: so it is likely your source.list which is 'bugged'06:46
larson9999LjL: have no other way to get that info? email, or removable media you can access?06:46
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larson9999camera to potograph it and send from windows?06:47
fredDammitCoetzee: ok, this is unniverse which is bugged then :) and only for you, what a bummer ? :)06:47
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DammitCoetzee? i dont think you understand me all the way...06:47
fredi guess :)06:47
LjLlarson9999: i can't access anything06:48
LjLlarson9999: tried camera, but my hands are too shaky06:48
DammitCoetzeeim just saying there should be a ubuntu-kde or ubuntu-gnome setting and then there should be a default kde or gnome setting06:48
larson9999LjL: coffee jitters or are you just getting old like me?06:48
fredDammitCoetzee: rereading the log, and you are correct, i mixed you and some question about apt-get. sorry :)06:48
DammitCoetzeefred: no problems06:48
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DammitCoetzeebut yea, is what i'm suggesting even possible?06:51
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fredwell if you are willing to maintain such configuration, i guess ubuntu will be ok to include it06:53
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fredbut clearly ubuntu has a policy of being easy to use for the beginner, which implies to do predefined choices tune for them06:54
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Lord_AthurI have win xp and kubuntu drapper on this computer, but windows dowsn't start. After I choose win with grub, windows isn't loaded, what could it be?06:55
fredLord_Athur: did window used to start thru your grub, and stopped ?06:56
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fredLord_Athur: or it never started up from your grub ?06:56
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Lord_AthurIt always starts with grub, the problem ocurred today :(. Grub showed some information (makedefault, system fat...) and then the screen didn't change06:58
larson9999errr, do i want GLUT, freeglut, or openglut?06:58
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fredLord_Athur: what have you done since yesterday ? reinstall/upgraded ubuntu ?07:00
Lord_Athurmmm let me think, I made the computer work all night downloading a distro.07:01
bimbocircusis there any program that cant test hardware in linux, like my hard drive?07:01
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fredLord_Athur: ok my guess is that grub got 'reinstalled' somehow and the parameter to get window started got crushed07:02
fredLord_Athur: so the window is still there but wont boot07:03
Lord_Athurso, what do i do?07:03
Lord_Athurdo I resintall grub?07:03
fredand no i dunno how to restore it, but i know it is possible, not that bad already:)07:03
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fredyou may look for doc about how to get a dual boot with window07:04
fredthey likely contain this info07:04
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:04
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anacaonai use konqueror to rip ogg files from cds07:05
bbwHi all07:05
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anacaonai'd like to know where to change the rip settings07:06
fredanacaona: go to the montain and play djembe for me07:06
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bbwDo someone now about quake 4 i have sound problems , sound is not good ,07:07
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Lord_Athurthanks all07:08
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Lord_AthurI'm having another problem, this time it's with the printer.07:14
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Lord_AthurI'v to leave, bye all07:15
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ranunculoidHi i'm trying to install a program and it just failed on the ./configure bit. It failed before because I didn't have a compiler so I installed gcc just there. Here's the error: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". How can I fix this? What package do I need?07:16
h3sp4wnranunculoid: build-essential07:16
h3sp4wnranunculoid: the program you are trying to install will have README INSTALL or somesuch file maybe in doc/ find out what it needs from there07:17
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larson9999LjL: got it all fixed?07:19
bimbocircusi need to reinstall xp on this box, is there a simple way to get linux grub back?07:20
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:20
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larson9999anyone know hoat i do to fix this?  i have the glut dev package installed.  checking for glutInit in -lglut... no07:21
larson9999configure: error: *** glut missing - please install glut development package ***07:21
bimbocircusis this supposed to work, i thought i tried it once and had big problems07:21
kurzweil4is it impossible to unmount /dev/hda1 while in KDE?07:21
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anacaonafred: former montrealer?07:22
ranunculoidOk. The ./configure bit got a bit further this time. Now it says "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" Which once again gives me no clue as to what package I need to install to fix it. Any ideas guys?07:22
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larson9999i don't really understand this about ubuntu.  but when i look at the glut.h that's posted on the net, there are all sorts of things in there.  including glutInit.  but on my system there are just about a dozen lines and most are comments07:23
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TonrenHey guys, I know I have qt installed, but I'm getting this error when I try to ./configure a theme from kde-look.org:07:24
Tonrenchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!07:24
TonrenWhat gives?07:24
DammitCoetzeefred: sorry i had to go eat. but yes ubuntu should be easy for the begginner. It should also be easy for the begginning linux user. and having to spend 4 hours to get something somewhat near to kde was not what i wanted to do07:25
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fredanacaona: yep and i miss it. especially when i have dull sunday and think about how much fun it would be to be now playing djembe :)07:25
DammitCoetzeeim just saying. that including all the default konqueror profiles and kcontrol and such as an option. shouldnt be that hard...07:26
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fredDammitCoetzee: i dunno, but i do know that kubuntu team is very open and welcome new people :)07:26
anacaonafred: where are you now?07:29
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fredanacaona: paris07:29
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anacaonafred: well, i hear it ain't that bad, either.07:31
fredanacaona: ok lets switch then :)07:31
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anacaonafred: there's only one place i'm leaving montreal for, and that's haiti.07:32
anacaonafred: though i would accept bahia as a second choice07:32
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fredhaiti is peacefull nowadays ?07:33
anacaonafred: or a medium-sized town in cuba07:33
kurzweil4how do I resize the partition that Kubuntu is installed on?07:33
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anacaonahaiti - no, not really.07:33
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h3sp4wnIs cuba good for cigars and gambling ?07:33
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Goliath23I installed kubuntu, but it seems konqueror is not able to show any jpegs07:34
Goliath23whats wrong?07:34
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DammitCoetzeefred: i would make a package as such if i had any clue where to begin07:38
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mister_robotohas anyone here had problems shutting down recently? my laptop, completely up-to-date dapper, won't shut down any longer via logout/turn off computer.07:48
Tommy2k4X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16807:48
Tommy2k4i get that error twice every time i open something from konsole, what does it mean07:48
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berniHallo, wird hier deustsch gesprochen?07:49
Archie_Toothnein, nur Englisch07:50
bernischade ;)07:51
Cntryboyanyone use xwinwrap07:51
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bernican anybody say how to update aegis-virus-scanner?07:53
CntryboyNot sure why ppl want a virus scanner for linux, when viruses are not that common07:53
Cntryboybut nope I read about it awhile back, seems okay.. But not sure why you feel u need one lol07:53
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berniOk, thanks07:54
finchumi have a support question regarding samba with kubuntu07:54
Archie_Toothberni - there is a #kubuntu-de on freenode07:54
larson9999ppl need them to help cut down on the windows infections :)07:54
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bernidanke ;)07:54
finchumcan someone offer me some help?07:54
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larson9999i'm sure that soon enough there will be viruses for distros that promote running as root07:54
rysiek|plfinchum: just ask07:55
Cntryboylarson9999: Only reason Id see to have one right now is to scan your windows mounts07:55
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h3sp4wnlarson9999: Which distro's run as root ?07:55
finchumi log into kubuntu the regular way...i go to users and add myself as a "root" user07:55
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finchumi then go to samba to add a share and it says to login as administrator...i put in the password but everything stays grayed out07:56
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larson9999h3sp4wn: i think that was linspire i read that in.  i could be wrong but one of those targeting the windows convert.  the guy who created even gives this big spiel about how it's ok because thats what we didn't in windows07:56
finchumi try wrong passwords and it doesn't accept them...if i put in the one i used to log in initially, it accepts it, but everything remains inaccessible07:56
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h3sp4wnlarson9999: Maybe that is true I have never run linspire07:57
larson9999h3sp4wn: s#didn't#did in#07:57
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larson9999h3sp4wn: i saw that about 6 months or so ago when i was checking out new distros.  couldn't believe i was reading it07:58
CntryboySo, no one here uses xgl and uses xwinwrap?07:59
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finchumhow do i login as administrator from within samba?08:00
h3sp4wnfinchum: adminstrator ?08:01
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h3sp4wnfinchum: As far as I know samba doesn't use an account called administrator08:01
finchumi can't change anything without it08:03
finchumit demands that i "login as administrator to make changes"08:03
finchumso i click it, type my password, and everything remains greyed out08:03
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ajaywhich file i gotta apt-get to get mp3 support in amaroK08:04
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Goop2I need some help with booting :\08:08
Archie_Toothajay:  libxine-extracodecs - you may need to add the multiverse repository first.08:08
Goop2I reset Windows-eXPee after putting backup stuff on Kubuntu, but now I cant get to the stuff :\08:10
VerslypeIs there any word on fixing the libxine/amarok demux bug?08:10
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ajaythx Archie_Tooth08:13
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larson9999i found a post from a guy who says he 'apt-get install build-essential x-window-system-dev'  but i don't see  x-window-system-dev in the repos.  when i search on x-window nothing that comes up has a 'dev' on it.  is there such a package?08:15
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corettic' qualche italiano08:16
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corettiqualcuno parla italiano?08:17
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:18
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abattoircoretti: ^^^^^^^08:19
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ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl08:22
Goop2I have a Panic Button on Windows :D08:22
abattoirGoop2: the 'Start' button? ;)08:22
Goop2no :P08:22
abattoirGoop2: or is it the "Power On" button?08:22
abattoirthat's where all the troubles start :P08:22
Goop2I have a dock, with a big red button that says PANIC08:23
abattoirwhat does it do? reboot to linux?08:23
Goop2cause windows is too stupid to know how bad it is xD08:23
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abattoirGoop2: poor thing, dont blame it, blame its makers :P08:24
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barneyRI have a lucent internal modem, dials out ok, connects and then hangs up after 30 seconds. I also have Mepis 3.4.3 where the modem works fine. Can I copy dialup files from Mepis and use them in Kubuntu?08:26
knapperhmm ktorrent is cheesed. It wont start a download for anything, yet azureus will.08:27
Goop2on windows I like azureus more08:27
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knapperIs there a command to refresh the kmenu?08:28
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Goop2how would I go about installing GRUB from a live Breezy disk?08:31
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teelittlei think, grub-install should do it...08:32
teelittledon't know if it's included in the live disk; can you check?08:32
teelittle<searching for his notes>08:32
Goop2would I do that in konsole?08:33
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teelittlegoop2: yes. no icons, no windows ;-)08:33
teelittleGoop2: try the following (you need to be root): grub-install /dev/hda08:34
teelittle(assuming you want to install grub in the the boot sector of your first IDE hard disk...)08:35
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Goop2teelittle: Kubuntu is on hdb (I think) would this still be the right thing?08:36
teelittleYour system boots from the disk that is configured in the BIOS setup.08:36
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Goop2ok, Ill try it then :D08:37
jontecI'm having trouble with java.08:37
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teelittlegoop2: what do you have on the other disk? A second OS=08:37
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Goop2the first OS is Windows-eXPee08:38
Goop2then on a second HD I have Kubuntu08:38
teelittlegoop2: then you need to configure grub for loading Kubuntu or WinXP in the second step08:38
teelittledon't know if grub sees this itself... how is Kubuntu booted till now?08:39
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jontecWhat is the copy command in Konsole? Someone, anyone? I also need the delete as well.08:39
Goop2Originaly I used GRUB, but then I had to reset Windows because of malware, and Im on a live disk now08:40
teelittle@jontec: "cp" for copy, "rm" for remove/delete08:40
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teelittlegoop2: OK then, I think you need to install grub to /dev/hda because your BIOS might be preset so (you can change that anyway).08:41
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Goop2---/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.08:42
rikhardhi all08:42
larson9999i install windows on my second hd, then install linux on the first.  that way grub is on the the first and if i ever need to, i have the windows boot loader on the 2nd.08:42
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Goop2I have backup files on linux :\08:43
teelittlegoop2: what is that mapper?08:43
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rikhardmay i ask something?08:43
teelittlegoop2: did you have grub installed before your WinXP crashed?08:43
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teelittle@rikhard: go, ask!08:43
Goop2teelittle: I.... I dont know :\ Thats what it said when I typed "grub-install /dev/hda"08:44
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rikhardi'm unable to see the icons on the task switcher08:44
rikharddoes anyone know why?08:44
larson9999anyone here check out captorials.com?08:45
teelittle@rikhard: task switcher is what comes up when you press ALT-TAB?08:45
rikhardi can't see what apps are running08:45
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teelittle@rikhard: sorry, no idea :-(08:45
rikhardi can swith among apps08:46
teelittle@rikhard: but you DO have apps running on the active virtual desktop?08:46
rikhardbut can't see them08:46
rikhardyes :-)08:46
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teelittle@goop2: maybe you need to be on a "clean" system? Can it be because of the "live" status of your running system?08:47
jontec_I need the copy/paste and delete commands for Konsole? A location of all the commands might me nice too?08:47
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rikhardi just installed kubuntu08:47
teelittle@rikhard: that's another thing, not your issue ;-)08:48
rikhardit was working but not now08:48
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Goop2teelittle: Im not realy sure how I would do that.. is there a boot disk I can get somewhere?08:48
rikhardohhh sorry08:48
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teelittle@goop2: I once created a boot disk to boot to the REAL grub console (it does have a shell-like thing!)08:50
teelittle@rikhard: sorry, really no idea...08:50
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teelittle@goop2: it worked like the following (having the grub-files installed on my harddisk):08:51
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Goop2teelittle: It seems you can only make one on a Linux system, and I cant get it to compile :\08:51
teelittledd if=/usr/share/grub/i386-pc/stage1 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=108:51
teelittledd if=/usr/share/grub/i386-pc/stage2 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 seek=108:52
rikhardok thanks08:52
rikhardi'm googling but can 't find a clue08:52
teelittleafter that, you have a grub Command Line Interface when booting from that floppy disk...08:53
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teelittle@rikhard: it's hard to find a clue if you have such an unspecific problem: no error messages, no idea what was changed before, no connection to a single application...08:54
Goop2uh... do I put that in konsole or..... O_o08:54
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Zooliehi all08:54
Zoolieis there any way to remove the tab from chatwindow in kopete?08:54
teelittle@goop2: these things don't touch your harddisk, they just write on the floppy disk. So no danger (if typed correctly)08:55
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Goop2now the only problem is finding a floppy >.<08:55
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teelittlegoop2: first check if the grub stage1/2 files are in the positions my commands need them!08:56
mikearthurwhat would be the best way of stripping a file extension from a string, in Bash?08:56
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jontec_I need the copy, paste and delete commands for Konsole.08:57
macdjontec_:  try right clicking.08:57
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Zoolieis there any way to remove the tab from chatwindow in kopete?08:58
jontec_I mean the actual like copy directory commands... not pasting information into Konsole08:58
jontec_Let me explain my situation08:58
macdyou need to move files?08:58
jontec_I'm trying to install the plugin for java in Firefox08:58
brandon_is amsn in the repos?08:58
jontec_I have the .so file and I ned to move it, yes.08:59
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macdcopy = cp  move = mv delete = rm08:59
jontec_However, I already have a symbolic link in the folder that I need to copy, and I cannot delete the link to paste the actual file from Konqueror08:59
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macdremove the symbolic link first.09:00
Goop2teelittle: it says "The file or folder file:///usr/share/grub does not exist." :(09:00
macdbrandon_: try 'apt-cache search amsn'09:00
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teelittle@goop2: can you search for "grub/i386-pc/stage1"?09:00
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brandon_macd: i'm saying it's not here, but it hought it was in the repos09:01
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jontec_does the symbolic link have a file name?09:01
macdbrandon_: its in universe.09:01
abattoir!info amsn09:02
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB09:02
macdjontec_: no since its just a link, issue 'rm symboliclink'09:02
macdjust verify your delteing the link itself not the target.09:02
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teelittle@goop2: found it myself - the files might be in /lib/grub/i386-pc09:04
teelittle@goop2: do you have them there=09:04
Goop2Ill take a look09:04
jontec_Okay, the link is in the '/usr/lib/firefox/plugins' directory so the command I write should be "rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugins" but how does it know which symbolic linke?09:04
Goop2although that search didnt find anything :\09:04
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Goop2theres files in that diretory :D09:05
Goop2or whatever you would call it O_o09:06
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teelittle@goop2: i would say, there is the files needed in that directory, yes. You should be able to make a grub boot disk and go on from there09:06
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Goop2can I use a CDRW instead of a floppy?09:07
macdjontec_: if you issue 'ls -al' within that directory it will become very clear what you need to download.09:07
teelittle@jontec: a symbolic link is a type of file, so you delete that file: rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/<filename>09:07
macddelete rather*09:07
brandon_amsn is supposed to be in universe, but i can't install it09:08
jontec_gotcha, I got rid of it.09:08
arkygeekhow do i get to the power management for my laptop? I dont see it in the control ceter09:08
teelittle@goop2: it's different from creating a bootable floppy disk, as far as I know...09:08
jontec_but now I cannot paste the file I needed through Konqueror, should I use Konsole?09:08
Goop2teelittle: alright Ill uh... Ill see if I can find a floppy then09:09
unix_infideljontec_: its just as easy to do with konsole09:09
teelittle@goop2: I have hundreds of disks here, but didn't have a floppy drive for the last three years... that was worse!09:10
jontec_okay, the file is there, thank you!09:10
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Goop2sounds like hell :P09:10
jontec_I just have to see if java actually runs now that it's there09:10
gatekeeperarkygeek: have you been into system settings?09:10
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macdbrandon_:  do you have the universe repos in /etc/apt/sources.list ?09:11
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brandon_macd: yes09:11
Goop2even if floppies are way outdated, they do come in very hand sometimes :)09:11
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gatekeeperbrandon_: you can't have universe enabled09:11
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teelittledoes anyone know how I get the complete texinfo manuals? - if I type "info grub-install", I only see the manpage :-(09:12
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brandon_deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse09:13
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gatekeeperteelittle: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=grub+manual&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:unofficial09:13
arkygeekgatekeeper: i dont see system settings - where do i find that?09:14
macdbrandon_: I just tried to install amsn, it is in the repos.09:14
teelittlethanks! - but there must also be a way to get the texinfo stuff locally. Missing package?09:14
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brandon_macd: well, i went to the site directly and grabbed the package, so it's there09:15
brandon_not sure what was stopping it09:15
gatekeeperbrandon_: what do you get with apt-cache search amsn?09:15
macdteelittle: tried installing grub-doc ?09:16
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brandon_gatekeeper: it says it's there09:16
brandon_so does adept09:16
brandon_but it wouldn't install it09:16
gatekeeperarkygeek: press your K button and it is in that menu09:16
gatekeeperbrandon_:  sudo apt-get install amsn09:17
brandon_gatekeeper: i ain't no rookie09:17
gatekeeperbrandon_: what is the error?09:17
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brandon_no installation candidate09:17
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arkygeekgatekeeper: dont see it sorry09:18
teelittle@macd: sounds good - i'll check that09:18
macdbrandon_: I assume you ran apt-get update first?09:18
brandon_macd: sure did09:19
macdwierd, could be a issue with your combintation of apt repo list.09:19
h3sp4wn0.95-1 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages - amsn is there09:19
macdas it works fine for me on dapper.09:19
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teelittle@macd: thanks, that helped!09:19
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brandon_h3sp4wn: actually, 95-2 is there09:20
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h3sp4wnbrandon_: That probably means there is a security problem with it you need dapper-security multiverse universe main restricted09:22
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brandon_h3sp4wn: already there09:22
brandon_i used the source-o-matic site09:23
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rikhardi found out, can't be focus striclty under focus09:23
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teelittle@rikhard: can you explain that?09:23
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rikhardmy alt+tab problem09:23
teelittleI remember - but what's the solution/explanation?09:24
h3sp4wnbrandon_: You are using an unofficial repository then09:24
rikhardon focus policy, can't be on stricly under mouse foxus09:24
brandon_h3sp4wn: so what?09:24
rikhardmouse focus09:25
h3sp4wnbrandon_: So remove them or you can't expect anyone to help you fix it09:25
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brandon_if source-o-matic doesn't work, then ubuntu should stop recommending it09:25
serenity_my wlan works, but why do i have to discover it everytime when i restarted kubuntu? DHCP is on09:25
brandon_in thier official wiki09:25
knapperwhere is the xmodmap file located?09:25
Goop2-Awayteelittle: I found something, but its too big to fit in my computer =P09:25
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teelittle@goop2: har-har :-))) if you fold it twice, it might fit!09:26
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teelittle@rikhard: so what would I have to do to see the same problem you had? Put the mouse somewhere? Change any settings?09:27
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Goop2it looks like it was invented by the same guy who invented the wheel xD09:28
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rikhardmouse+right+button -> configure window behaviour -> focus -> policy09:28
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teelittle@mikearthur: do you still have that problem (best way of stripping a file extension from a string, in Bash)?09:29
rikhardthan if you choose the wrong one, the menu entry n1 on navigation, turns off09:29
mikearthurteelittle: got it, thanks09:29
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Goop2teelittle: can I take a game off a floppy and put it on CD without messing it up?09:30
teelittle@goop2: now we are going the long way to rome ;-) I would make an exact copy using dd09:31
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teelittle@goop2: but that might mess up the copy protection, if any09:31
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unix_infidelthese people arent opped.09:32
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teelittlethought it is a way of telling: I address you (message _at_)09:33
talljon84afternoon all'09:33
teelittlebut seems it's common to just put a colon after the nick?09:33
teelittletalljon84: good evening *g*09:33
Goop2@teelittle: I normaly do both :P09:34
talljon84Does anyone know if it's the kdesdk package that provides the kde header files?09:34
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teelittlerikhard: thanks, I found it and now understand the issue!09:35
teelittleunix-infidel: so ops are indicated by an @ in front of the nick?09:36
teelittlegoop2: so, what about our floppy for grub now?09:36
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unix_infidelon my client anyway.09:37
unix_infidelteelittle: what client are you using09:37
teelittleKonversation (I'm new to IRC)09:37
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Goop2teelittle: Im not realy sure if it has any protection system.. I think its just a peice of paper with some symbols, but Im not sure09:37
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unix_infidelteelittle: try using tab completion.  EG: unix<press-tab>09:37
Goop2teelittle: Im not sure I wanna risk it :\09:37
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unix_infidelthat way it makes it easier for you and the nick gets highlighted on the recipients client.09:38
teelittleunix_infidel: wow, great tip! Thanx :-)))09:38
unix_infidelteelittle: just remember there's no tab completion IRL.  Eg: the hot girl at the coffee house who's name you cant remember :P09:38
teelittleGoop2: then try installing it to the boot sector of the second hd and configure your BIOS to boot from that drive09:38
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teelittleunix_infidel: OK, I'll always note girls' names out of cyber space :)09:40
teelittleGoop2: oops, forgot that it doesn't do installing to hard drive...09:41
Goop2teelittle: Im not sure where that is.. hdc maybe? I tried hdb and it didnt do anything09:41
teelittleGoop2: let me think...09:41
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rikhardok bye and thks09:42
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Goop2I could use a chocolate banana smoothie O_o09:42
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blahhAnyone know how to get glmatrix screen saver?09:42
teelittleGoop2: you could use grub itself :-)09:42
teelittletype grub!09:43
unix_infidelblahh: glmatrix?09:43
Goop2k3w1 :D09:43
teelittleGoop2: see? there's the CLI09:43
blahhit's a screen saver09:43
unix_infidelblahh: cmatrix not good enough?09:43
blahhI tried installing rss-glx with screensaver pack, but it's not in it09:43
blahhcmatrix isn't listed in my xscreensavers09:43
Goop2teelittle: shweet!!09:43
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unix_infidelblahh: of course not...its a command line app.09:44
unix_infidelits not a screensaver...issue it at cli.09:44
blahhwell I know09:44
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blahhI want a screen saver though09:44
unix_infidelheh, glmatrix doesnt even have DPMS.09:44
blahhthat looks like glmatrix09:44
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unix_infidelenergy saving.09:44
unix_infideli like to save the wales and stuff.09:45
teelittleGoop2: do you have a /boot directory on your linux root drive?09:45
blahhbut it looks better than cmatrix09:45
blahhbigger letters09:45
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unix_infidelblahh: good.09:45
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Goop2teelittle: I think so09:45
|lostbyte|Hi ! guys..09:45
blahhany idea unix_infidel09:45
teelittleGoop2: check for "stage1/2" files there09:45
unix_infidelblahh: you're compiling glmatrix?09:45
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serenity__why does my wlan don't connect on startup? DHCP is on09:46
serenity__why does my wlan don't connect on startup? DHCP is on09:46
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blahhnooo, I want to download the binary. I downloaded rss-glx in hopes it would have that screen saver but it doesn't09:46
Goop2teelittle: on the Hard Drive? I cant get to that. I dont see that file on the CD either09:46
blahhin gnome glmatrix is part of xscreen savers kubuntu folk have to dl it09:47
unix_infidelblahh: what video card do you have?09:47
teelittleGoop2: then mount it - just to be sure you have a /boot/grub directory09:47
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unix_infidelblahh: are you getting any errors.09:48
teelittleGoop2: for installation from the grub shell you don't need to have it mounted09:48
Goop2teelittle: on the CD? I do have that09:48
menno_hi! is it possible to make a copy of kubuntu to a harddiskpartition and install kubuntu this way on another partition?09:48
blahhmm what does that hve to do with downloading glmatrix lol sorry im lost09:48
menno_i can't get Kubuntu to install09:49
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menno_the cd stops soon after the first installation steps09:50
teelittleGoop2: I would prefer the harddisk, because it has the grub menu configured the right way from the previous installation. So we could use that!09:50
blahhunix_infidel: haha no, I just want to know where to download glmatrix xscreensaver for kubuntu is all09:50
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Goop2teelittle: I dont know how to get to that :\09:50
nixternalanyone install screenkast?09:50
teelittleGoop2: mkdir /mnt/second_hd09:51
nixternalim having issues with glut dev packages...says i don't have them installed and i do... libglut3-dev09:51
teelittleGoop2: mount /dev/hbd /mnt/second_hd09:51
nixternali actually have installed everything glut while i was at it09:51
teelittlegoop2: ls /mnt/second_hd/boot/grub09:51
teelittleGoop2: what does it say?09:52
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Goop2teelittle: did you mean hdb?09:52
serenity__why does my wlan don't connect on startup? DHCP is on09:52
teelittleGoop2: cat /mnt/second_hd/boot/grub/menu.lst09:52
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teelittleGoop2: sorry, of course it's "hdb"09:53
teelittleGoop2: do you see what we're doing?09:53
h3sp4wnserenity__: Are you using network manager or just /etc/network/interfaces ?09:54
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larson9999nixternal: i'm having that problem too.  hope you solve it and tell me how :)09:54
serenity__to connect i usenetwork manager...but earlier it worked without it09:54
nixternalheh larson9999..im trying hard to do so09:54
larson9999nixternal: i've gotten several errors depending on what i tried.  the main one said glutInit is missing please install the dev packaged09:55
serenity__h3sp4wn: in /etc/network/interfaces wlan0 is set so dhcp09:56
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Goop2teelittle: Im not sure.. and I got stuck on that second line :\09:56
h3sp4wnserenity__: auto wlan0 (put that in /etc/network/interfaces)09:56
nixternallarson9999: i have everything dealing with the "glut" packages installed09:56
teelittleGoop2: error message?09:56
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nixternalso, that isn't the issue..i don't htink it is looking inthe right place..im going to look at the configure file now09:56
serenity__h3sp4wn: what will do this?09:56
teelittleunix_infidel: what does an underscore at the end of a nick mean?09:57
larson9999nixternal: i did one better... installed everything with g in it09:57
serenity__h3sp4wn: ohhh....auto wlan is in /etc/network/interfaces09:57
unix_infidelteelittle: nothing.09:57
h3sp4wnserenity__: it should be auto wlan009:57
unix_infidelhey MehAdult09:57
MehAdultunix_infidel: Sup09:57
h3sp4wnserenity__: So it starts automatically on boot09:57
Goop2teelittle: yeah, it cant find it09:57
larson9999nixternal: what are you trying to install?09:57
serenity__h3sp4wn: it's auto wlan0, but i don't start on boot09:58
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h3sp4wnserenity__: are you using wpa_supplicant ?09:58
teelittleGoop2: do you have two hard drives or two partitions on one hard drive?09:58
nixternallarson9999: EVERYTHING!@!!09:58
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h3sp4wnserenity__: I take it you are bringing it up using ifup wlan0 ?09:58
teelittleGoop2: any SCSI devices?09:58
serenity__h3sp4wn: no09:58
nixternali have all the denpendcies installed..i just get that stupid glut error09:59
h3sp4wnserenity__: back in 2 seconds09:59
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larson9999nixternal: oh, i'm trying to install screenkast09:59
nixternalme too09:59
Goop2teelittle: Windows has 2 partitions I think, and on a seperate hard drive I have kubuntu09:59
Goop2teelittle: SCSI?09:59
teelittleGoop2: OK, if you don't know it, you probably don't have it ;-)10:00
larson9999nixternal: i saw just a couple references to the glutInit error but don't see any resolutions.  i posted to kubuntu forums10:00
Goop2teelittle: works for me :P10:00
larson9999nixternal: and on the screenkast site10:00
nixternali posted to sourcforge/screenkast page as well10:00
teelittleGoop2: try mounting /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd ?10:01
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larson9999nixternal: are you like me and find this glut thing confusing?  there's GLUT, freeglut, openglut, mesaglut... what's a girl to think?10:02
nixternalopenglut, i don't know if itried that one yet 10:02
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nixternali have the glut, freeglut, libglut (which should be the fix)10:03
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larson9999i've heard that gluttony was bad but never knew what that meant.  now, i know they were talking about glut10:03
Goop2teelittle:neither work10:03
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larson9999nixternal: i wasn't even going into the libgluts10:03
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teelittleGoop2: I would like to know the output of:10:04
MehAdultWho here uses amarok?10:04
teelittleGoop2: mount /dev/hda <press TAB>10:04
MehAdultIt seems to me that it likes to lock up after a few songs.10:04
nixternallarson9999: the fix is suppsoed to be =>      sudo apt-get install libglut3-dev10:05
larson9999nixternal: i figured it had to do whit glut.h so i looke that up and found glut.h on the net.  there it had glutInit but the one we have doesn't.  something tells me the reason for that is key to the issue10:05
larson9999nixternal: yeah, that's what i did first :)10:05
nixternalactually..it is referring to glutInit10:05
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larson9999nixternal: yeah, the error message is.  but the glut.h we have doesn't have it.10:06
nixternalthanks for pointing that out10:06
Goop2teelittle: hda   hda1  hda210:06
larson9999nixternal: just like in real life.  i can point out the faults. just can't fix them10:06
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serenity__h3sp4wn: this is my ezc/network/interfaces http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/2243/10:08
teelittleGoop2: dmesg | grep hd | head10:08
teelittleGoop2: what's the result?10:08
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h3sp4wnserenity__: Have you 4 network cards ?10:09
teelittleGoop2: this should give you a clue about what drives you have10:09
serenity__h3sp4wn: nope, just 2...the orther entries are made by default10:09
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Kristophehi guys, ok it's not kubuntu specific, but... I know logtool for /var/log/messages, it's great to see logs in color... Do you know somethnig similar for squid / dansguardian logs?10:09
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h3sp4wnserenity__: Are you using wpa or wep or no encryption ?10:10
larson9999ok, now nixternal and LjL is on the case. well LjL maybe not so much.  anyone else wanna take the 'install screenkast challenge?10:10
serenity__h3sp4wn: no encryption at all10:10
larson9999i betcha can't do it.10:10
h3sp4wnserenity__: iwlist wlan0 scan10:10
Goop2teelittle: its realy long :\ what part did you want?10:10
h3sp4wnserenity__: get the ssid10:10
serenity__h3sp4wn: it is "wlan"10:10
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LjLlarson9999: i am more on the "make any single command, including 'cd' or 'ls' or 'whoami', work" ;-(10:11
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teelittleGoop2: can you identify your hard drives? one should be hda (the one holding the win partitions), and can you see clues for the unix drive?10:11
larson9999LjL: sorry i caused you so much greif10:11
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Goop2teelittle: its hdb, I remember it was a maxtor drive :)10:12
h3sp4wnserenity__: So everytime you boot you are using iwconfig wlan0 wlan (or some such command first)10:13
teelittleGoop2: then it must be possi... oh shit, it was my fault! You must mount /dev/hdb0 or /dev/hdb1 instead of just /dev/hdb10:13
serenity__h3sp4wn: no, i use wireless assisstant10:13
teelittleGoop2: I made this mistake multiple times in the past *grrr*10:13
larson9999LjL: are you going to have to reinstall?10:13
Goop2teelittle: hehe, ok :P10:13
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teelittleGoop2: So, mount you Linux partition and see what the /boot/grub/menu.lst holds - it might be enough to reuse it10:14
LjLlarson9999: i don't know yet, right now i'm pasting my shell history in a query, line by line so that i won't flood out of IRC again. then i'll reboot and see10:14
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larson9999LjL: oh crap10:15
Goop2teelittle: I still cant get it to work >.<10:15
larson9999LjL: maybe the screenkast folks can make a screekast of how to install screenkast on kubuntu10:15
h3sp4wnserenity__: http://pastebin.ca/89595 (change /etc/network/interfaces to look like that - close wireless assistant) sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan010:16
LjLlarson9999: hehe10:16
david__Is there a Version of "Python-Central" for Kubuntu?10:16
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teelittleGoop2: what did you try, what did it say?10:17
smygis:( http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildul3.jpg10:17
Goop2teelittle: mount /dev/hdb0/mnt/second_hd10:17
smygisignore it10:18
smygiswrong channel10:18
Goop2mount: can't find /dev/hdb0/mnt/second_hd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:18
teelittleGoop2: you must separate the two places: /dev/hdb0 and /mnt/second_hd10:19
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Goop2teelittle: oh.. oops10:20
serenity__it works10:20
serenity__h3sp4wn: it works...what did these lines10:21
Goop2teelittle: mount: you must specify the filesystem type10:21
serenity__h3sp4wn: just specify where to find the wlan?10:22
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larson9999nixternal: i'm putting $5 up from my paypal account to the first person who figures out what we need to do to install this.10:23
nixternalim one it 10:23
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h3sp4wnserenity__: Just specified the ssid and told it to find the channel automatically - I think gui wifi tools are a waste of time and make the connection more unreliable10:23
Goop2mount: you must specify the filesystem type10:23
gatekeeperlarson9999: just come in what are you trying to install?10:23
teelittleGoop2: try inserting "-t reiserfs" directly after the "mount" command (no quotes)10:23
serenity__h3sp4wn: i am just wondering...but some days ago it worked by default10:24
Goop2teelittle: ok10:24
larson9999gatekeeper: screenkast-0.1.210:24
Goop2teelittle: space?10:24
larson9999gatekeeper: on dapper10:24
h3sp4wnserenity__: I don't know anything about the gui wifi stuff10:24
teelittleGoop2: always!10:24
gatekeeperok :-)10:24
serenity__h3sp4wn: forget it...thank you10:24
Goop2teelittle: just making sure :)10:24
larson9999gatekeeper: you up to the task?10:25
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Has it got to be done properly ?10:25
h3sp4wnlarson9999: i.e not with checkinstall10:25
larson9999h3sp4wn: i'm not sure what you mean by properly.  but if it works and my system isn't too radically installed, it counts in my book.10:26
Goop2teelittle: special device does not exist10:26
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gatekeeperlarson9999: doubt it :-)10:26
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larson9999h3sp4wn: i'm not against checkinstall. although it's got LjL in fits now10:27
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nochhas anyone here used the new WINE yet?10:28
larson9999h3sp4wn: but don't you have to get make to work for checkinstall?  or is that soemthing else i'm thinking of?10:28
teelittleGoop2: sorry, my fault again: try "hdb1" instead of "hdb0" (grub counts partitions from 0, linux counts from 1)10:28
larson9999nock is that 9.17?  i have used that10:28
larson9999noch:  is that 9.17?  i have used that10:28
Goop2teelittle: alright.. simple mistake :)10:28
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Goop2teelittle: actualy.. you said to try both10:29
h3sp4wnlarson9999: If someone uses checkinstall it may easily break your system10:29
larson9999h3sp4wn: aha! i'd rather not have someone break my system.  that's my job.10:30
larson9999h3sp4wn: what the heck does it do that can be so damaging?10:30
Goop2teelittle: it gave some errors, but its further than Ive gotten so far10:31
larson9999h3sp4wn: ljl control c'd it when it was running sudo and has got issues10:31
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teelittleGoop2: is it mounted or not?10:31
nochlarson9999: what are the draw backs to 9.17?10:31
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h3sp4wnlarson9999: It just means someone has got to work on their system without making sure it cannot damage yours10:31
nochlarson9999: from other versions10:31
Goop2teelittle: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,10:31
Goop2teelittle: missing codepage or other error10:32
teelittleGoop2: sudo fdisk /dev/hdb10:33
teelittleGoop2: gives you a list of the partitions on your second hard drive10:33
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larson9999noch: so far i haven't found any drawbacks to the new version of wine10:35
Goop2teelittle: its only complaining that cylinders is set too high10:36
larson9999h3sp4wn: yeah, if it works on yours that's probably a good test10:36
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nochlarson9999: have you played any games on it? and if so, which games?10:37
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larson9999noch: actually, i don't notice anything different.  oh, wait, i think the cd stuff is better now10:37
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teelittleGoop2: parted /dev/hdb10:38
larson9999noch: i use wine for dvdshrink, wxe, and shockwave sites.  don't really use it for games.10:38
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larson9999noch: my gaming comes from scummvm, mame, oss games that run on linux and some older dos games i play on dosbox or dosemu10:38
nochlarson9999: ok thanks. i think i found what im looking for in the release notes about the direct shaders10:39
Niomii have been told the latest windows version of flash will run on IE under WINE10:39
jeeklI'm having problems with starting hplip. Does someone knowhow to fix this? Output: http://pastebin.ca/8962710:39
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nochugh, i wouldnt even consider using IE on windows, let alone wine10:39
larson9999Niomi: yeah, but it runs better in firefox on my system.10:39
h3sp4wnlarson9999: But other people may have different libraries installed etf10:39
Eeyorei use wine and it works well10:40
Goop2teelittle: um..10:40
Niomilarson9999: are you saying the latest flash will work on firefox under wine?10:40
larson9999h3sp4wn: does that mean you can't figure out how to compile it?  or that wouldn't be worth $5?  i was hoping nixternal would add another $5.  maybe he's trying to get my $510:40
Eeyoreif you have a usb key you can put portable apps on them and carry them with you and it works well in linux or windows10:40
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Goop2teelittle: I dunno what to do here :\10:40
larson9999Niomi: the absolute latest?  well i installed shockwave and flash last week and they work.  and less choppy that in ie.  via wine not linux ff10:41
teelittleGoop2: were looking something up. Type "print"10:41
h3sp4wnlarson9999: I can figure how to compile it I think but I am trying to do it properly10:41
Niomilarson9999: that's great news.. i must try this soon10:41
teelittleGoop2: does it tell you something interesting about your partitions???10:42
h3sp4wnlarson9999: libinstrudeo - Is that in dapper ?10:42
nixternalno h3sp4wn10:42
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larson9999h3sp4wn: nope.  takes about 15 packages too :)10:42
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Is it in debian experimental ?10:42
larson9999nimoi i used winetools to set wine up.  some don't recommend that but doing that gets things to work best for me10:43
larson9999h3sp4wn: i don't know10:43
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larson9999they are both new packages10:43
h3sp4wnlarson9999: I just think if anyone is going through all this hassle it should be done properly so it can be submitted to edgy10:43
jontec_Okay, now I decided that I'm going to ask for help on installing java10:43
Goop2teelittle: it says the labeltype is "msdos", "minor1" is filesystem ext3, next to that it says "flags: boot"10:43
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larson9999h3sp4wn: that's probably right10:44
Eeyorejust use adept to do wine, works for me10:44
Goop2teelittle: minor5 is filesystem "linux-swap"10:44
larson9999Niomi: got a site you'reinterested in? i could test before you try10:44
larson9999Eeyore: yeah.  but i meant setting up some of the packages works better for me using wine-tools.  not actually installing wine10:45
Goop2teelittle: minor1 is primary type, minor2 is extended, minor5 is logical10:45
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Niomilarson9999: thank you, that is so gracious of you -- i'm interested in viewing www.biteycastle.com10:45
Gachaanybody there?10:46
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jandersonsome people are here ;)10:47
teelittleGoop2: OK, I would say your primary partition (no. 1) is your root partition, formatted with "ext3" filesystem. You need to mount that10:47
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larson9999Niomi: anything special on that site.  it looks like it might work in linx for me...unless there's a certain link10:47
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Goop2teelittle: partition1 says something about boot10:48
larson9999Niomi: oh, nevermind. i see.  trying in wine now10:48
GachaI upgraded to new 2.6.15-26-k7 kernel and now I have sound problems, it "echoing"10:48
teelittleGoop2: then, there is an extended partition (no. 2), which itself is a container for logical partitions (especially no. 5 for swap)10:48
Gachaeverything repeats 10 times10:48
Gachamaybe someone can help10:49
larson9999Niomi: the movies do play fine so far with wine + ff10:49
teelittlei wanna order a pizza - what variation is fresh and fruity?10:49
gatekeeperlarson9999: looks to me like the guy should put *all* the source code in one tar, so people don't have to waste days playing 'hunt the code'10:49
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Goop2hawiian has pineapple O_o10:49
teelittleGoop2: the flag "boot" means that this is the active partition if BIOS boots from this disk10:50
larson9999gatekeeper: that doesn't sound like the worst idea in the world10:50
Goop2teelittle: I would asume thats good?10:50
teelittleGoop2: yes10:50
teelittleGoop2: so, the "mount" command was correct, but we have to specify the correct filesystem type: "-t ext3"10:50
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Goop2teelittle: yay :)10:50
larson9999Niomi: gonna try ie now10:50
Niomilarson9999: thank you so much! that is really good news10:50
teelittleGoop2: instead of "-t reiserfs"10:50
jontec_I like pinapple and ham though, not pineapple by itself10:50
Goop2thats what hawiian is10:51
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Goop2pineapple and ham10:51
jontec_never mind then, I think I missed that line10:51
larson9999Niomi: oops! looks like my ie installation is broken.10:51
ironfroggy_LTIs there a way to install without actually running a kde session?10:51
jontec_I just saw pinapple10:51
farelhi all10:51
teelittleGoop2: will you work on our issue?! I am going to bed soon!10:52
teelittleGoop2: *g*10:52
BarbelosI'm wondering how to get colour-output in the konsole. Right now all sorts of files and directories are listed in the same colour10:52
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ironfroggy_LTbecause from the CD, its killing this old box im trying to install it on10:52
larson9999Niomi: that kinda looks like a fun site10:52
Goop2teelittle: sorry, I thought you were gonna say something :\10:52
Murfy^good evening :) what's the easiest way to share your internet connection under dapper?10:52
Niomilarson9999: it really is, i go out of my way to boot into windows and watch it X310:52
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pussfellerwhats the command to restart the desktop, when I rightclick the desktop itself goes away (konqy)10:53
pussfelleri still have the panel10:53
larson9999Niomi: watching littlefoot now10:53
Goop2teelittle: what did you want me to replace "-t reiserfs" with?10:53
ironfroggy_LTDo i need to download the "alternative" CD to get a non-GUI install frontend?10:53
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teelittleGoop2: "-t ext3"10:53
Goop2teelittle: ok10:54
teelittleGoop2: (no quotes, eh?!)10:54
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larson9999wow! $15 got washed in my pants and my wife didn't find it!!! woohoo just like winning the lotto10:54
gatekeeperMurfy^: depend on what you mean by share, one way of sharing is P2P software10:55
fareldo you know how to get free kubuntu?10:55
RawSewageKubuntu is free now?10:55
jontec_I just ordered cds10:55
crimsunwait, kubuntu isn't free already?10:55
gatekeeperfarel: yes download the iso and install it10:55
larson9999Niomi: but wondering if our time wouldn't be better spent not viewing flash sites that require a version they won't make for us and writing flash instead10:55
farelhm.. free it means without ANY pay10:55
Murfy^never mind gatekeeper, i just found myself a nice howto on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9137010:55
Murfy^thanks anyway :)10:56
Niomilarson9999: well, flash 9 is coming to linux eventually, according to adobe10:56
Goop2teelittle: it didnt even show that I did that :(10:56
larson9999h3sp4wn: so how many packages deep are in to the first package you need to compile?10:56
fredfarel it is free this way too10:56
Goop2teelittle: its like it totaly ignored it10:56
farelgatekeeper i have modem f.e I can't download it ;)10:56
jontec_I need help with java...10:56
gatekeeperMurfy^: cool :-)10:56
larson9999Niomi: yeah, but it sounds to me they'll be telling us real soon, we have to wait unitl 1010:57
fredfarel, it can be delivered to your home for free too10:57
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org10:57
fredfarel do shipit10:57
teelittleGoop2: then it most likely worked!10:57
gatekeeperfarel: ask them to send you an install CD ubuntu are one of the few distros that will do that10:57
larson9999shipit is one of the main reasons i switched to unbuntu10:57
Goop2teelittle: oh.. thats good right? :D10:57
h3sp4wnlarson9999: I am at glut10:57
h3sp4wnlarson9999: (just finished that one)10:58
Niomilarson9999: we have flash 7... adobe hasn't forgotten us completely.. i want to believe !10:58
larson9999for screenkast?10:58
jontec_farel, it's really easy, it'll take you less than five minutes to order them, waiting is the hard part.10:58
teelittlefarel: but it's faster if you know someone who sends it to you or who can copy or download the CD for you...10:58
fredlarson9999: interesting. why is that ? unable to download the cd ? unable to burn it ?10:58
teelittleGoop2: mount10:58
gatekeeperfarel: do you specifically want ubuntu or any linux distro?10:58
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Does it depend on loads more that dapper doesn't have ?10:58
teelittleGoop2: (without options: gives a list of mounted devices)10:58
teelittleGoop2: there you can see what you've done10:59
Niomilarson9999: i have been following http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf10:59
larson9999h3sp4wn: i don't know.  i just know it says you need the glut dev packages and we all think we have them.10:59
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farelso, who really use echotag?10:59
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larson9999fred i didn't follow the question10:59
larson9999Niomi: yeah but we heard the same thing when 8 came out... we would ge 8.511:00
Goop2teelittle: what do I do next?11:00
Niomilarson9999: did we? :/ i was not following it then.11:00
teelittleGoop2: the main partition of your second hard disk is now mounted into /mnt/second_hd11:00
fredlarson9999: you said shipit was the main reason for your switching to ubuntu. can you explain why ? you was unable to download the cd ? to burn it ? trying to understand how usefull shipit can be11:00
teelittleGoop2: there, you can find its content.11:00
larson9999h3sp4wn: i think that glut is just about it.  there can't be much more that's pretty far down the configure isn't it?11:00
teelittleGoop2: we were looking for the grub files in boot/grub11:01
teelittleGoop2: go for them11:01
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gatekeeperfred: very usefull for those that don't have the bandwidth :-)11:01
h3sp4wnlarson9999: writing the rules file is the time consuming bit11:01
h3sp4wn larson9999: Have you attempted to do this yourself ?11:02
larson9999fred: oh.  well, i came from mandriva.  i used it since 97.  i was happy but really like the 'freeness' of deb better.  but i'm the classic definition of ubuntu=couldn't get debian to install.  and when i heard ubuntu was as easy as mandriva plus was free kinda like deb.  plus shipped free cds.  that all added up to a company i'd want to support.  by using and donating to.11:02
Goop2teelittle: ok Im at /mnt/second_hd/boot/grub11:03
larson9999h3sp4wn: i attempted to compile it.  not make a package.  i don't konw how to do that.11:03
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h3sp4wnlarson9999: Do you get loads of errors ?11:03
teelittleGoop2: great! have a look at the menu.lst11:03
h3sp4wnlarson9999: I.e with the code once its compiling ?11:03
teelittleGoop2: cat menu.lst11:03
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larson9999fred: and as it turns out, kubuntu is imho as easy as mandriva.  i wouldn't say easier but as easy11:04
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Goop2teelittle: erm.. cat menu?11:04
larson9999h3sp4wn: i haven't gotten past the configure error of not having the glut dev package installed11:04
fredlarson9999: ok thanks for the info11:04
jontec_T_T Java is dead on my machine. Either that or it has not been born...11:04
casimirhey guys.... I've got a question... when I mount a cd into my macbook pro, an icon appears on my desktop and I have right-click-menu entry called "Sicher entfernen" (german) (anything like "remove secure" or so) can you say me, how I can bind this action to a key? (i.e. can you say me which program does this action?)11:04
teelittleGoop2: it lists the menu items the are displayed in the grub boot screen plus the instructions needed by grub to boot these OSes11:05
Goop2teelittle: I can see menu.lst, but no cat menu11:05
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teelittleGoop2: type "cat menu.lst"11:05
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Are you on i386 (not amd64)11:05
teelittleGoop2: cat prints the content of a text file - like "type" in DOS/win11:05
larson9999fred:  so it didn't have anything to do with not being able to download or anything.  just the idea the company would do that.  speaks of a company that has my insterests at heart.11:05
gatekeeperlarson9999: they in the repos ro do you have to play 'hunt the pacakge' for them?11:06
larson9999h3sp4wn: yeah.  p311:06
Goop2teelittle: I opened it up in kate.. Im not sure what you mean though :\11:06
fredlarson9999: yep got it, the free shipit was more a flag about their attitude toward the users11:06
fredlike a 'we care about everybody and event want to pay for you to be able to use it for free'11:07
larson9999gatekeeper: the packages for screenkast?  they were all in the repos except screenkast and the backend to it.  up until the point i get the error that is11:07
larson9999fred: yep11:07
fredwell a slogan should be shorter/easier to read :)11:07
teelittleGoop2: in the shell, you type commands (like cd, ls, mount...) and one command is "cat"... not so difficult, I think11:07
teelittleGoop2: but kate is fine too11:07
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teelittleGoop2: what is written in the linux partition of menu.lst11:07
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Flosoftcan someone help me with a tip11:08
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FlosoftI am looking for a Webserver that is light and stable11:08
Flosoftand very fast11:08
Flosoftit should handle alot of hits11:08
Flosoftand Downloads should be very fast11:08
larson9999fred: i was actually going to try debian since i felt reasonable ok i could install it in a mont or so now that i've use linux for years as my main home OS.  but soemone pointed me to look at ubuntu and the shipit sort of tipped the scales.11:08
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Was you going to use debian unstable (its not that unstable)11:09
larson9999h3sp4wn: from what i read, probably.  that was another thing i like about ubuntu.  the 6 month release thing.11:10
fredlarson9999: personnally i like ubuntu for the 'be nice with eachother' attitude. which may be reworded as 'let drop the bofh attitude'. it is something which is really needed in the opensource world in my opinion.11:10
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teelittleGoop2: what's in there?11:10
Goop2teelittle: theres alot of "ubuntu" things..11:10
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h3sp4wnlarson9999: That package is not even in debian making it more timeconsuming11:11
larson9999fred: well, that was a good part, too.  but i found mandriva was a friendly community, too.  but recently started seeing some meanness there.11:11
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Than just a straight backport11:11
larson9999h3sp4wn: what package?11:11
Goop2teelittle: theres 2 Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-386 (recovery mode)11:11
Goop2and 2 Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-38611:12
jontec_Anyone familiar with java installation for either Firefox or Konqueror? I have blackdown 1.4.2 installed, but it just won't work!11:12
teelittleGoop2: great! what is the entry under "root" - should be (hd1,0)???11:12
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gatekeeperlarson9999: 2 types of glut glutg3 and freeglut3 wouldn't have anything to do with the problem?11:12
Murfy^jontec_ try automatix11:12
Murfy^or install sun-java5-plugin11:12
larson9999h3sp4wn: oh, yes.  that one and screenkast have to be compiled.  but libinst* install fine after apt-getting the million or so packages it needed11:12
Goop2teelittle: actualy the second 2 have 9s, the first 2 have 10s.. yes, thats what the root is :D11:13
jontec_I have dial-up the sun-java4 is like... 29-39M11:13
larson9999gatekeeper: i don't know.  i tried( or think i did) using them separately11:13
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larson9999gatekeeper: but the thought did enter my mind.11:13
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teelittleGoop2: OK, now we know which options we need to install grub on your second HD!11:13
user_good day11:14
casimirnobody any ideas? :(11:14
gatekeeperjontec_: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin11:14
larson9999h3sp4wn: i wouldn't bother with it but i really like the concept and would like to make some screenkasts11:14
user_I have a Question, How can I Add ndiswrapper to this Kubuntu installation11:14
gatekeeperjontec_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper11:14
Goop2what now?11:15
teelittleGoop2: go back to the root shell where you started grub (maybe you have the Konsole window still open?)11:15
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Goop2teelittle: yep, I kept that open :D11:15
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teelittleGoop2: now type:11:15
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Its annoying the archive servers are so slow at the moment11:16
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teelittleGoop2: root (hd1,0)11:16
larson9999h3sp4wn: aha.  they were fast for me last night11:16
h3sp4wnlarson9999: getting 30k /s at the moment11:16
teelittleGoop2: find /boot/grub/stage111:16
Goop2teelittle:  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x8311:16
jontec_I don't think that even if I install sun that it will work11:17
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gatekeeperlarson9999: is it possible to get the developer to give you a list of dependencies (I didn't see a obvious way of email him) ?11:17
jontec_because blackdown was recommended as the one that was supposed to work the best?11:17
Goop2teelittle: (hd1,0)11:17
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gatekeeperjontec_: I don't think that is the case11:17
larson9999h3sp4wn: it seems a little odd to me though that i don't see any posts with resolutions to this glutInit problem.  rarely do i have an issue that i can't find someone with the exact same problem and a posted resolution.11:17
teelittleGoop2: setup (hd1)11:18
jennifer71i need to get my wireless card working, I think its recognised as eth1 right now, but it will not activate, It keeps dropping back to Deactivated in the settings, SO I was going to try ndiswrapper, but i dont know how to install it11:18
jontec_okay, is it just that package that I need? adept tells me that there are more?11:18
larson9999gatekeeper: i didn't either.  htere is the sourceforge forum.  maybe a couple nice posts asking the kinds of things that would make it nicer for us would help.11:18
h3sp4wnlarson9999: I am getting 18k/s :/11:19
Goop2teelittle: w00000t!! It seems to have worked :D :D11:19
larson9999gatekeeper: when i was about halfway through the first configure i thought.  maybe i should make a list.  then i said well i'm almost done so why bother.  i didn't know i wasn't almost done.  and then again.  i would have likely had some of the depencies installed befor i started11:20
Goop2teelittle: is it installed now?11:21
larson9999h3sp4wn: that's slow.  cna you switch servers for the repositories in ubuntu like you cna in mandriva?  if i got a slow one ther, i just used different ones.11:21
teelittleGoop2: i hope so. You need to configure your BIOS to boot from the second hard disk, and then it should work!11:21
teelittleGoop2: You owe me a pizza *g*11:21
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teelittleGoop2: (if it works)11:21
Goop2teelittle: ok Ill email you one ;)11:22
jontec_there is no way that I can download 29M. Is there absolutely no way to use blackdown?11:22
h3sp4wnlarson9999: I did switch servers (just as slow)11:22
teelittleGoop2: for now, I have a salad, because it's 23.00 and still 26C - too hot for pizza11:22
larson9999h3sp4wn: :)11:22
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teelittleGoop2: good luck!11:23
larson9999it's 97 here.  i think we're going to the beach.11:23
teelittleGoop2: I'm going to enjoy my salad, then a beer, and go to bed :-)11:23
Goop2teelittle: alright, Ill figure out how to edit the BIOS11:23
teelittleGoop2: most BIOSes let you change setting when you hold <DEL> during boot11:24
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TheHighChildAnyone know of a way to get the virtual desktop switching with Xorg? similar to that of xgl+compiz?11:24
Goop2teelittle: ok Ill try that11:24
teelittleGoop2: go for it!11:24
teelittleGoop2: bye11:24
larson9999my wife is unemployed (masters cis) and can't get a job mostly due to no job history and poor english(my opinion)  i'm trying to get her to delve into an OSS project to build up a portfolio if you will.  but she doesn't think that will be helpful :(11:24
TheHighChildI have Xgl working and compiz but It's not suitable as an Xorg replacement for me, I just want the desktop switching feature11:24
Goop2teelittle: byez :)11:25
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gatekeeperlarson9999: As I see it, it is up to the developer to try and make peoples life easy, I must confess I don't have the patience to play 'hunt the package' I get about 10% in then think screw this, and try to find another way around whatever problem I am trying to solve. What is the point of providing 10 - 20% of the source code if you then have to go hunting for all the rest of it11:25
jennifer71any suggestions on me getting my wireless card to work?11:25
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fredq. how dangerous it is to attemps a xgl install ? dangerous as in 'being unable to use X if i do seomthing wrong' ?11:25
fredlarson9999: cis= ?11:25
TheHighChildfred: As long as you backup your files that you change, you can revert back and be fine.11:26
gatekeeperlarson9999: wounder if you would get there any quicker with Gentoo :-)11:26
larson9999gatekeeper: well, i'm thinking that might be due a little to the fact that it's a 0.1.2 version.  i prefer to give the developers the benefit of the doubt until they react to people's suggestions in a negative manner.11:26
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TheHighChildfred Computer Information Systems11:26
nic0Is there anybody out here?11:26
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nic0Is there any French / Swiss here?11:27
larson9999lol@gatekeeper the build might be quicker.  but my suspicion is the issue here is due to ubuntu being set up differently than the builders system.  like a deb vs rpm system thingie.11:27
fredlarson9999: well i agree with you that if you have no job hitory, to provide a viewable result of what you can do, like with oss, it is a definitive advantage11:27
frednic0: yep, if it is to talk french, there is a #kubuntu-fr11:28
jontec_computer information systems, I believe11:28
larson9999fred: computer information services?  i think those are the letters she tells me.  i only have a ged so i'm not sure.11:28
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fredam i like ultimatly lagged ? :)11:28
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larson9999fred: well i figure if she's like me, when she learns something and doesn't use it for a while it's almost as if she didn't learn it at all.11:28
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jontec_I got lag too, I'm still on it I think11:29
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larson9999fred: i was da bomb in power builder.  until i couldn't get a job doing it for a year  :)11:29
larson9999gatekeeper does tha mean you are trying to install it?11:29
fredlarson9999: yep, pracice is good. and a showcase is good too. a sucessfull oss stuff is real good11:30
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fredlarson9999: imagine looking for a job and you come and say 'ok i got 5millions users for my software'11:30
larson9999fred: she says she doesn't think she wants to code.  i tried giving the argument that there is just about room for any occupation in the oss world.11:30
fredlarson9999: definitvely better than 'ok here is my paper for my diploma'11:30
gatekeeperlarson9999: sorry no :-(, I was just doing a bit of digging around11:30
larson9999gatekeeper: was just curious11:31
gatekeeperlarson9999: np :-)11:31
larson9999fred: yeah with all the tools on the web, it's easy enough to show what you can do if you've the will11:31
larson9999and for free11:31
fredlarson9999: hmm isnt she just lazy ? :)11:32
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larson9999fred: lol.  i'll run hat argument by her and see how fast she throws the supper can opener at me11:32
fredlarson9999: hehe :)11:32
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larson9999fred: i told her that's how i got my job.  heck i only have a ged and i've been a semi respectible IT guy for 12 years now11:33
larson9999well i did take some college but i lost my paperwork and am too lazy to get it so i don't usually put that on a resume11:34
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Old_FredI used to be respectable, but it became more trouble than it was worth!11:35
larson9999Old_Fred: lol11:36
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jennifer71is there a specific process to get help here?11:36
larson9999back then all i had to do was show my bosses how to create jcl that didn't need to be modified from test to system test to prod.  it might be harder now :)11:37
jennifer71or just ask and hope!!11:37
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gatekeeperjust ask and hope :-)11:37
gatekeeperwhat is the problem?11:37
jennifer71well, i've asked twice, i dont want to seem the pain in the Ass11:37
jennifer71My Wireless Card wont activate11:37
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jennifer71Its recognised as eth1, (which i think is wrong)11:38
jennifer71it should be wlan011:38
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jennifer71but aside from that, I was going to try to get it working through ndiswraper, but i havent a clue how to get that11:38
larson9999so gatekeeper what do you think of the captorial idea since you've looked a bit at it?  is there really nothing like it as the site claims?  and do you thinkg the concept is good and be useful or will it result in a bunch of crappy things you have to wade through to find the good ones like you do now.  maybe it should have a digg type rating system for the specific kind of help offered11:38
jennifer71I am willing to try myself, and let you people work on more serious troubles, i just need someplace to start from11:39
larson9999jennifer71: having a nick that makes it sound like you're female can't hurt when it comes to getting help on irc11:39
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gatekeeperjennifer71: I am not using wireless with linux so not really in a position to help you, does it not have native linux drivers?11:39
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jennifer71gatekeeper: As i said, its recognised as eth1, but I doubt that it has native drivers, no other linux ever worked with it11:40
larson9999jennifer71: and 25 to boot11:40
goop2teelittle: it didnt work :(11:40
larson9999jennifer71: oops 35.  my math sucks11:40
gatekeeperlarson9999: sounds good to me :-)11:40
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larson9999gatekeeper: jennifer71 or captorial.com?11:41
LjL-Windowslarson9999: have you succeeded installing the thing?11:41
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gatekeeperjennifer71: the problem here is that you are trying to get two things right at the same time, rather than a step by step approach11:42
LjL-Windowslarson9999: if you haven't, don't. i think there might be something strange in its makefile11:42
larson9999LjL-Windows: lol.  nope.  but i have help now.  got nixternal who came here with the same issue.  and h3sp4wn is giving it a go but the servers are slow11:42
fredlarson9999: screencasting is a very powerfull tool. it shows stuff to people. a lot more convincing that a text. in my opinion it is way underused by the opensource community11:42
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larson9999LjL-Windows: i don't doubt that but maybe we can figure out what and fix it?  'we' meaning soemone who wants my $511:42
LjL-Windowslarson9999: i've fixed my own problem. a "chmod a+r /" from singleuser mode fixed it. the problem is that, judging from the logs, it was either that Makefile (or checkinstall itself) which changed the permissions11:42
LjL-Windowslarson9999: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18179 (part of my syslog)11:43
larson9999fred: well captorial.com says it's the first oss version11:43
fredimagine all the tutorial you can do with screencast11:43
LjL-Windowslarson9999: see Jul 16 18:00:27 localhost tar: 0^Ichown^I/^I0^I0^I#success11:43
larson9999LjL-Windows: aha11:43
fredlarson9999: well they lie abotu that :)11:43
ubuntuCan  someone  tell me how to install grub to the mbr from the command line?11:43
fredlarson9999: some other version existed before but crappy one11:44
jennifer71ok, what step should i be working on11:44
larson9999fred well they they're the first oss helpdesk that's totally free.11:44
jennifer71I would think removing this Invalid eth1, and just go with ndiswrapper11:44
jennifer71So my issue is, how can I install ndis to this installation of Jubuntu11:45
fredlarson9999: helpdesk=?11:45
jennifer71sorry , ndiswrapper11:45
gatekeeperlarson9999: captorial.com is an excellent idea, google to some extent are already doing this with some of their linux HowTo video's anything that makes it easier for users to understand the system has got to be good!!11:45
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ubuntuCan anyone tell me? I need  to know what grub calls the mbr on hda11:46
larson9999LjL-Windows: that's ugly.11:46
Old_Frednot really much support help here today is there!?11:47
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jennifer71Old_Fred: You noticed that too?11:47
h3sp4wnlarson9999: I am using cdbs (which I have never used before) to try and get it done faster11:48
DarkAuditany word on the CVE-2006-3626 kernel vulnerability?11:48
larson9999LjL-Windows: something like that happened to the drive i share with windows a while back.  it was a fat32 and the windows check fixed it.  i changed it to ext3 after thatn11:48
larson9999fred: yeah, they say that's the goal to be a massive free helpdesk11:48
jim__hello i am trying to install vlc media player can someone help me11:48
larson9999Old_Fred: yeah, it is new11:49
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larson9999h3sp4wn: did you catch LjL-Windows's post about the makefile maybe being dorked up?11:49
Old_FredJim... On what version ?11:49
jim__hello i am new to linux and I am trying to install vlc media player can someone help me with this11:49
larson9999h3sp4wn: that's the screenkast one.  not the lib* one11:49
h3sp4wnlarson9999: Oh screenkast is less compilcated than lib*11:50
Old_Fredbreezy? Dapp[er?11:50
jim__yes dapper11:50
larson9999h3sp4wn: well, i think maybe similar.  you get the error after about 5 or dep pacakges in screenkast.11:50
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Old_FredHave you tried the automatic installer? adept or something like that.11:51
JRH3K5Aren't there any VLC packages?11:51
larson9999h3sp4wn: the only thing is i didn't error on the lib* so it seems less complicated :)11:51
h3sp4wnlarson9999: libinstrudeo-dev depends on libinstrudeobroken (my libsrudeo package is broken)11:51
jim__i have tried to the automatic package and it says it is not there11:51
LjL-Windowslarson9999: a *quick* look at the makefile shows there is only one "chmod" command in it, which does not remove permissions from /. so it feels more like checkinstall was the culprit. but blah11:51
Old_Fredyoun need to activate the unsupported repositories11:51
gatekeeperjennifer71: yes I would try to find a solution eth1 problem. If you are getting nowhere with your question here you could try the ubuntu forums, personally speaking, I would probable be tempted to go and spend 20 - 25 on a nice wireless card that had linux drivers, (but that's me)11:52
JRH3K5^^ http://www.ubuntuguide.org/wiki/11:52
jim__i did activate the unsupported repositories11:52
larson9999h3sp4wn: aha so you're making packages?  cool11:52
Old_Fredhow many packages do you have showing as availiable?11:52
gatekeeperoops she'e gone11:52
LjL-Windowsjim__: run "sudo apt-get update"11:52
larson9999yeah there are vlc packages11:53
JRH3K5And then apt-cache search vlc11:53
Old_Fredmake sure you have the universal resporties activated11:53
jim__it comes up command not found11:53
larson9999yeah, anytime i buy hw these days i look for supported stuff.  acutally, im' turning down non supported stuff that's given to me :)11:54
JRH3K5...apt-get isn't a command?11:54
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fredjim__: do 'sudo apt-cache search vlc'11:54
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fredjim__: the command not found come from the fact you need to be roo11:54
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fredi think11:54
larson9999my wife is telling me it's time to hit the beach11:54
fredok am off see ya11:55
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omeowWhy don't you guys tell him to use adept for installing software? Why immediately jump to the terminal?11:55
jim__when i ran sudo apt cache search vlc a whole bunch of code came up now waht11:55
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larson9999omeow: well, the terminal is faster for one.11:55
sdlnxgkwas just at the beach in San Diego and it was really nice :)11:55
Old_Fredvery good point... you are going to get confused mixing both methods11:56
h3sp4wnLjL-Windows: checkinstall will always be the culprit11:56
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JRH3K5Look for a package that's probably named just "vlc"11:56
omeowYes, but he's a new user who obviously doesn't quite know how to use a terminal, let alone apt-get, etc.11:56
larson9999omeow: but i think adept is easier to add packages.11:56
LjL-Windowsjim__: what if you just type "sudo aptitude install vlc"11:56
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JRH3K5That should work11:56
JRH3K5"sudo apt-get install vlc"11:56
JRH3K5Though, what's wrong with Xine?11:57
h3sp4wnlarson9999: #kubuntu-devel maybe able to help me actually11:57
omeowjim__, here's the trick; click the k-menu, then select Add/Remove software. Enter your password and type vlc in the search input field.11:57
larson9999omeow: that's a question i always struggle with.  i hate to see linux users afraid of the cli.  at the same time i don't like long time users who think you have to do EVERYTHING at the cli.11:57
omeowThen select the dropbox next to it and set it to "any suite" hen check "unsupported" and vlc comes up.11:57
jim__i am using gnome how do i get to kde11:57
Old_Fredguys, jim's problem swwms to be that he doesn't have the repositories activated... it is there I installed vlc thru adept myself11:58
larson9999omeow: i think one reason is too, that there are different guis.  with the cli, it's the same for all.11:58
DarkAuditCVE-2006-3626 is the h00lyshit exploit... any word on if the current 2.6.16-26 kernel is safe or not?11:58
LjLomeow: and *that's* easier than "sudo aptitude install vlc"? :D11:58
omeowjim__, oh I didn't know you were using gnome. Can't help you much then, there's a graphical client for apt-get there too. Synaptics?11:58
omeowLjL, yes, because it doesn't spill out all kinds of cryptic error messages.11:59
jim__so how do i install or use kde11:59
JRH3K5jim__: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories11:59
JRH3K5Are you using those repositories?11:59
larson9999omeow: there you go.  we'd be telling him how to use adept.  he doesnt' have it  :)11:59
LjLerr, i've seen adept spilling out error messages that are much *more* cryptic11:59
omeowjim__, you would need to install kubuntu-desktop I believe.11:59
Old_Fredsynaptics is almost the same as adept11:59
larson9999omeow: but plenty of us know both.11:59
jim__thank you will do11:59
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LjLand, well, Synaptic is quite different from Adept really12:00
larson9999Old_Fred: adding the repositories was different.  and i think that a different looking gui can be harder for a newbie that a consistant cli.  but that's just me.12:00
omeowCan't say, never used it.12:00
Old_Fredpoint taken...  :-)12:00
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larson9999actually, when i'm helping people transition, i have them go through a couple chapters in a cli unix book first.  i think time spent will help much.12:01
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Old_Fredspeaking of repositories, how can I get the kubuntu packages to show up in adept? the new  amorok, etc.12:06
larson9999Old_Fred: you mean update the repositories?12:06
gatekeeperlarson9999: doesn't seem to be any sound with these ScreenKasts, don't know if there is supposed to be, and the idea of using a piece of software that is in early development seems to be a little flawed12:07
Old_Fredyes.... kubuntu.org/packages12:07

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