[12:01] <Subhuman> noname, have you enable universe and multiverse?
[12:01] <Subhuman> !universe
[12:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:01] <soundray> lassegs: the default (no ~/.screenrc) works well for most use cases
[12:01] <Desh> Anyone got a nice howto for installing Windows on a Ubuntu partition?
[12:01] <noname> Subhuman: how do I do this ?
[12:01] <IIIEars> unrar is copywrighted. - there is a free unrar that supports an earlier version
[12:01] <gatekeeper> noname: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[12:01] <lassegs> soundray: not through putty. i need colours in irssi
[12:01] <Subhuman> noname,
[12:02] <Subhuman> !source
[12:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:02] <Subhuman> read them
[12:02] <morrolan> !irssi
[12:02] <ubotu> IRSSI is a command line interface IRC application ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[12:02] <Jamo> why is /etc/group readable by everyone by default?
[12:02] <noname> ok thanks so much everybody
[12:02] <IIIEars> in synaptic "unrar-free"
[12:02] <deep_> IRSSI! <3
[12:02] <_Spire_> what i'm using right now
[12:02] <morrolan> I'm using irssi and I have colour
[12:02] <deep_> _Spire_: Me to. Ofc. :)
[12:02] <soundray> lassegs: oh... does IRSSI use ANSI color codes?
[12:03] <lassegs> soundray: it doesnt?
[12:03] <_Spire_> a bit OT, but irssi looks great with a transparent aterm and dark background
[12:03] <soundray> lassegs: I don't know, I'm asking.
[12:03] <_Spire_> soundray: I think it does
[12:03] <deep_> _Spire_: Agreed! :)
[12:03] <sid> what do I need to fix the error C compiler cannot create executables
[12:03] <morrolan> I have a transparent background on too
[12:03] <soundray> lassegs: if it does, it's probably putty you need to configure, not screen.
[12:03] <morrolan> but i'm using gnome-terminal
[12:03] <bimberi> sid: install build-essential
[12:03] <crazy4ubuntu> I cant get my gnome-desktop to work... here is what I get from the log ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18115
[12:03] <crazy4ubuntu> can anybody help ?
[12:03] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: got some time now?
[12:03] <deep_> O.o ! Ive got Eclipse working now. I got to tell you, It is BEAUTIFUL! :D Love it! <3
[12:03] <sid> I knew I forgot something, thanks
[12:04] <lassegs> soundray: i can test that by ls -color  ?
[12:04] <morrolan> Is it a bad idea to add the edubuntu repo's for my kids to ubuntu? Could I damage my system?
[12:04] <hangfire> with what crazy4?
[12:04] <Subhuman> morrolan, not really.
[12:04] <bimberi> morrolan: there are no separate edubuntu repos
[12:04] <gatekeeper> sid: what are trying to install?
[12:04] <crazy4ubuntu> hangfire, did you ask me ?
[12:04] <squee> I remember on the last release of Ubuntu, there was an option in the shutdown menu to save the session. How can i get that in this (6.06) tnx
[12:04] <morrolan> bimberi: so the packages are available in ubuntu?
[12:05] <hangfire> crazy4- You asked if anyone can help.............with what?
[12:05] <_Spire_> soundray: I can pastebin irssi's color formats.
[12:05] <bimberi> morrolan: yes - feel free to install edubuntu-desktop, that will bring in edubuntu's additional apps :)
[12:05] <sid> flame project (flash editor) I did ./configure and that error came
[12:05] <crazy4ubuntu> hangfire, I can't log into a gnome session in dapper
[12:05] <soundray> lassegs: I'd say so
[12:05] <deep_> Anyone here but me that got like 300 tabs up in firefox / opera? :)
[12:05] <crazy4ubuntu> hangfire, here is my problem
[12:05] <_Spire_> _Spire_: or if you have irssi, check /usr/share/doc/irssi/formats.txt
[12:05] <morrolan> squee: goto System > Preferences > Sessions and there is a tick box to save
[12:05] <crazy4ubuntu> I cant get my gnome-desktop to work... here is what I get from the log ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18115
[12:05] <_Spire_> oops
[12:05] <IIIEars> !ubotu hibernate
[12:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about hibernate - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:05] <soundray> _Spire_: I don't need it, just trying to help lassegs
[12:06] <crazy4ubuntu> hangfire, did you get it ?
[12:06] <gatekeeper> sid: you have checked the package is not is the repos?
[12:06] <hangfire> no
[12:06] <soundray> _Spire_: apparently irssi lacks color when he runs it via ssh from putty
[12:06] <hangfire> wait, yeah I got it
[12:06] <crazy4ubuntu> oh, 10x
[12:06] <deep_> soundray: Isnt that puttys fault? :D
[12:06] <_Spire_> lassegs: irssi doesn't seem to use ANSI color codes
[12:07] <soundray> deep_: exactly my suspicion
[12:07] <sid> yeah, it's not there
[12:07] <squee> morrolan, will do! thanks
[12:07] <SurfnKid> data that you dont have 2 copies of is data you dont care about
[12:07] <gatekeeper> sid: ok
[12:07] <deep_> soundray: I got colors in irrsi, i havent changed anything. Just installed and started. :D
[12:07] <_Spire_> lassegs: black is %k, dark grey is %K, red is %r, etc
[12:08] <_Spire_> deep_: maybe he has the 'colorless' theme, instead of the default theme
[12:08] <hangfire> crazy4ubuntu- looks like you have some kind of installation problem just like the message says. Its hard to tell what the problem is just from that message
[12:08] <Kronoz> !mbr
[12:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:08] <crazy4ubuntu> I think it is about disk space... I really have a small HD
[12:08] <soundray> lassegs: do you have color when you start irssi in putty without screen?
[12:08] <squee> morrolan will i have to restart for that to take effect properly? Im looking for the check box for the option to save a session.
[12:08] <crazy4ubuntu> do you know how I find disk space within cli ?
[12:08] <zcat[1] > compiz question; when I run zxgv or supertux or quite a few other programs, the background shows through and the window is mostly white. a few people have mentioned something to fix this but I never made a note of it... :)
[12:08] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i find the icon for gaim? the one that sits in the taskbar...
[12:10] <hangfire> crazy4- type df in the console
[12:10] <element> on a motherboard, does negative power (for power switch connectors) mean ground or actual power?
[12:11] <dash`> how can I make a root directory writeable?
[12:11] <hangfire> with chmod
[12:11] <MenZa> chmod ~/?
[12:11] <rvgate> How can i check if Xgl is running on ubuntu ?
[12:11] <zcat[1] > dash`: directory, or is the filesystem mounted ro ?
[12:11] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i find the icon for gaim? the one that sits in the taskbar...
[12:11] <dash`> its another hard drive
[12:11] <element> MenZa, do you know?
[12:11] <nekromaan> evening, i installed the fglrx driver of the ati hp, after module-assistant a-i fglrx i changed xorg.conf into fglrx, but fglrxinfo shows the mesa driver :/ why?
[12:11] <dash`> non-OS
[12:12] <Kronoz> rvgate, `ps -e | grep Xgl`
[12:12] <LeaChim> zcat[1] , try this: open a terminal, and type: XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 supertux - all one line
[12:12] <zcat[1] > mount / -o remount,rw  perhaps
[12:12] <Ackeubu_> how do i start sticky notes from teh termimal?:
[12:12] <MenZa> element: not a clue. Do what Michael said :P
[12:12] <sid> roostishaw, what do you mean?
[12:12] <dash`> the rest of the drive, my user is the owner, but not on the root of the drive
[12:12] <Kronoz> rvgate, or just look through `ps -e` for xgl/compiz related stuff
[12:12] <element> MenZa, who's michael?
[12:12] <MenZa> element: io_error.
[12:12] <zcat[1] > LeaChim: would it hurt if I ser that in .bashrc for everything?
[12:12] <element> MenZa, oh...that one....heh
[12:12] <RvGaTe> Kronoz: seems to be running, but the commands are not working (cube etc)
[12:12] <element> anyone else know?
[12:12] <MenZa> ^^
[12:12] <element> MenZa, if there were a manual, I defintely would.
[12:13] <squee> I'm also still having a problem with the shutdown. Harddrives turn off but fans and moniter still working. The screen gets to "will now halt" and doesnt do anything and i have to pull the plug. Any ideas?
[12:13] <lassegs> im sorry i left for a second. no, i dont have colours at all, so it might be putty
[12:13] <sean13> can anyone help me?
[12:13] <LeaChim> zcat[1] , it disables some compiz effects, whenever the variable is set. so if you do it in bashrc you'd need: export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[12:13] <LeaChim> zcat[1] , but that's kinda pointless, you could just disable copmiz
[12:13] <sean13> I updated dapper yesterday and it told me to restart my computer
[12:13] <sean13> now my computer wont boot
[12:14] <zcat[1] > ahh, ok.. thanks for that. Will adjust the menu entries for the programs that have the problem then
[12:14] <roostishaw> , i mean... how can i replace the icon that sits in the taskbar when i launch gaim?
[12:14] <roostishaw> sid
[12:14] <roostishaw> ^^
[12:14] <sid> sup
[12:14] <sid> like you want a different icon instead of the gaim icon?
[12:14] <soundray> sean13: what's the last message on the screen?
[12:15] <roostishaw> sid, basically. i want to edit that icon
[12:15] <_Spire_> sean13: sounds like messed up MBR
[12:15] <roostishaw> sid, so i need to know where it is
[12:15] <sean13> soundray: It's something like "18 sectors are outwidth the bios"
[12:15] <squee> I'm also still having a problem with the shutdown. Harddrives turn off but fans and moniter still working. The screen gets to "will now halt" and doesnt do anything and i have to pull the plug. Any ideas?
[12:16] <southerngre1> Can anyone tell me how to adjust a links target properties if it belongs to root?
[12:16] <sean13> I would need to restart this comp to try and boot into hda1 to get the exact message
[12:16] <sid> hmm, gimme a sec roostishaw
[12:16] <ryanakca> when I go aptitude install courier-imap courier-imap-ssl courier-pop courier-pop-ssl... I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/89178
[12:16] <roostishaw> sid, ok, np
[12:16] <soundray> sean13: give me a sec to look that up
[12:16] <sean13> soundray: ok thanks
[12:17] <sid> roostishaw, /usr/share/pixmaps/gaim.png   <---I think that's what you're looking for
[12:18] <soundray> sean13: I think I found it. 18 is the error code that grub spits out. Is this a fairly recent, large hard disk in an older computer?
[12:18] <crazy4ubuntu> does any1 know how I find the free space in a partition ? I need a CLI help
[12:18] <eyequeue> crazy4ubuntu, if it's mounted, the "df" command
[12:18] <roostishaw> sid, thats the one! thanks man
[12:19] <eyequeue> df (1)               - report file system disk space usage
[12:19] <eyequeue> df (1posix)          - report free disk space
[12:19] <sean13> soundray: Yeah it only happend when I restarted my computer tonight, the only thing that had changed is that I updated it yesterday
[12:19] <crazy4ubuntu> thanks, eyeqeue
[12:19] <soundray> sean13: Is this a fairly recent, large hard disk in an older computer?
[12:19] <eyequeue> np crazy4ubuntu
[12:19] <ryanakca> when I go aptitude install courier-imap courier-imap-ssl courier-pop courier-pop-ssl... I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/89178 ... what's going on?
[12:19] <crazy4ubuntu>  eyeqeue, do you know where ubuntu stores downloaded packages ?
[12:19] <sean13> soundray: yeah
[12:20] <squee> !grub
[12:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:20] <sean13> soundray: although the computer isn't "that" old
[12:20] <IIIEars> crazy4ubuntu, df,  du is another diskusage command
[12:20] <soundray> sean13: you may have to change disk-related settings in the BIOS setup
[12:21] <soundray> sean13, or move your root partition to within the first 8GB of your hard disk.
[12:21] <squee> Im having problems sorting out the shutdown command on my PC. Anyone want to help? (no smart asses typing NO please :-)
[12:21] <meekish> i downloaded the dapper server cd. i only want bash. no x. how do i customize the install to skip gnome?
[12:22] <sean13> soundray: I tried looking for some related stuff in the bios to do with the error but I couldnt see anything
[12:22] <eyequeue> !server > meekish
[12:22] <soundray> sean13: nothing about LBA mode?
[12:23] <sean13> soundray: not that I recall but I can check again
[12:23] <crazy4ubuntu> IIIEars, can you give advice where are the *.deb's are located, I need to free disk space
[12:23] <LeaChim> crazy4ubuntu, /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:23] <meekish> no x by default? i guess this really is a server edition cd :)
[12:23] <crazy4ubuntu> LeaChim, 10x
[12:24] <soundray> sean13: sometimes this kind of problem can be fixed by flashing a newer BIOS. It's a bit risky though
[12:24] <LeaChim> crazy4ubuntu, ?
[12:24] <sean13> soundray: any idea why the latest ubuntu updates caused this problem?
[12:24] <IIIEars> file:///var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:25] <soundray> crazy4ubuntu: they are in /var/cache/apt/archives usually. Try freeing up space with 'sudo apt-get autoclean'
[12:25] <crazy4ubuntu> soundray, so I don't need to clean manully it'll do all the work ?
[12:25] <IIIEars> autoclean? - hm, nice tip
[12:25] <_Spire_> crazy4ubuntu: apt stores downloaded pkgs in /var/cache/apt/archives.
[12:25] <soundray> sean13: It's possible that your former grub version wasn't as picky, thus interacting more successfully with your BIOS.
[12:26] <soundray> crazy4ubuntu: exactly. autoclean removes outdated .debs, clean removes them all.
[12:26] <soundray> crazy4ubuntu: read 'man apt-get' to learn more
[12:26] <crazy4ubuntu> soundray, 10x, let's see if I can get into gnome now
[12:27] <eyequeue> crazy4ubuntu, be aware you'll need to run that manually each time you want it done, "autocean" isn't like a scheduled cron job (though you can do that too :-)
[12:27] <sean13> soundray: thanks soundray any chance you could help me with another problem I am having?
[12:27] <eyequeue> i first typed that as "scheduled con job" lol
[12:27] <crazy4ubuntu> well, I manged to log into gnome-desktop for root
[12:28] <soundray> sean13: ask the channel. If anyone knows, they will help.
[12:28] <crazy4ubuntu> let's see if it works for my everyday user
[12:28] <IIIEars> tho, it should be remembered "autoclean" doesn't do windows. (ducks quickly to avoid being slapped with a trout.)
[12:28] <abonilla> Am I the only one seeing problems in gtk-gnutella?
[12:29] <southerngre1> can anyone tell me how to fix a broken link to a different file on the local hard drive?
[12:29] <squee> Im having problems sorting out the shutdown command on my PC. Anyone want to help?
[12:29] <james_> go for it
[12:30] <james_> squee: what's the problem?
[12:30] <sean13> soundray, ok welll, I restarted my desktop machine last night and when uit booted back up the xserver wasn't working so I reinstalled xserver-xorg then restarted the computer and now that computer wont boot either
[12:30] <crazy4ubuntu> rrr... bloody gnome ! I can't log into it... what else do I need to clean ?
[12:30] <sean13> but i'm getting a different error, this one says Segmentation fault, ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist.  Droppijng to shell"
[12:31] <Desh> If I make XP capable of readina nd writing to ext2 and ext3, and since Ubuntu can do that with NTFS, then even if I dual boot, theoretically all my files are available to both OS's, right? like all my music, etc.
[12:31] <squee> james_  press shutdown, etc, hard drives turn off, fans still run, screen show "will halt now" or something to that effect
[12:31] <hp_> hi everyone, im trying to connect to my home network so that i could use a printer on a windows computer.  can anyone help?
[12:31] <soundray> .
[12:31] <jonass> how to delete the (gnome-) games installed with ubuntu?
[12:31] <james_> hmm
[12:32] <skavenge> is there a kde app to set the login screen? the default one is awful
[12:32] <crazy4ubuntu> jonass, why not use synaptic ?
[12:32] <linuxgoober> sudo apt-get remove game
[12:32] <james_> squee: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184749
[12:32] <LeaChim> jonass, apt-get remove gnome-games
[12:32] <IIIEars> sean13 - corrupt boot sector reinstalling grub? - try the install cd for rescue mode. possibly do fsck on the drive when it is unmounted?
[12:33] <jonass> ah i removed the default top panel. how can i get it back??
[12:34] <Desh> Grub or Windows Boot Loader?
[12:34] <FooAtari> hi folks.... Im trying to install drivers for my wireless card and while following the guide I have come to a problem at the very start...
[12:34] <FooAtari> It says to get the kernel headers package
[12:34] <hp_> im trying to connect to my home network so that i could use a printer on a windows computer.  can anyone help?
[12:35] <FooAtari> when i try and do this the packages are of a more recent version than i have, which I presume is pointless downloading?
[12:35] <jonass> ah i removed the default top panel. how can i get it back??
[12:35] <dbe> Can anyone please paste me /etc/sudoers at http://www.rafb.net/paste ?
[12:35] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: I'll ping you in ~5 mins
[12:35] <IIIEars> !ubotu tell me about printer
[12:35] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: ok, kool
[12:36] <jonass> ah i removed the default top panel. how can i get it back?
[12:36] <dbe> crimsun, Can you do it?
[12:36] <southerngre1> fooAtari: They can be downloaded in the synaptics package manager
[12:36] <yggdrasil_> rver irc.uicn.net
[12:37] <soundray> sean13: you are having a strain of bad luck. Sorry, I don't think I can help you with this one, but ask the channel again in a while.
[12:37] <dbe> All I need is the default setting in /etc/sudoers so I can use them in my system so I would appreciate if anyone could help me with this one.
[12:37] <IIIEars> Hi crimsun! (Too late to hide now. beginning to wonder how many questions you can answer at once.)
[12:38] <soundray> jonass: don't spam
[12:38] <sean13> soundray: lol yeah bad luck is a bit of an understatement but thanks, ill ask again later
[12:38] <dbe> soundray, Can you help me?
[12:38] <ScreaminIke> occasionally, my evolution feels the need to re-download my entire in-box. while it's annoying, it's not harmful. however, it does eat disk space, and my inbox becomes difficult to navigate because it's loaded with extra messages. is there a way to grep out identical messages and only leave one copy behind? also, will this manual manipulation of files affect how evolution reads my inbox?
[12:38] <FooAtari> yeah i got that far.... but i have kernel version 2.6.15-26-386 and the kernel -header is version 2.4.27-12.  this is ok?
[12:39] <majd> !ftp
  FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[12:39] <FooAtari> im a totally new linux so sorry if i am asking stupid questions here lol
[12:39] <wsjunior> does anybody had black screen after installing ati drivers on ubuntu dapper ?
[12:39] <majd> FooAtari, don't worry about it
[12:39] <FooAtari> excellent
[12:39] <squee> james_  thanks for that, i think im on the right lines now. Roughly what line is acpi=on/off on the dmesg output?
[12:39] <soundray> dbe: first of all, do you know how to edit /etc/sudoers ?
[12:39] <jonass> wsjunior yes
[12:40] <hp_> may i ask a question?
[12:40] <majd> hp_, no
[12:40] <wsjunior> jonass: did u solved the problem?
[12:40] <Gassed> Hi
[12:40] <jonass> yes
[12:40] <wsjunior> jonass: how?
[12:40] <squee> how do i find out what kernel Im using?
[12:40] <rellim> anyone know how to configure the screensaver in xubuntu?
[12:40] <dbe> soundray, No, I can't say that I've done that before. I'm reading man sudoers but it would be helpful if you could help.
[12:40] <FooAtari> uname -r squee i think
[12:40] <dbe> soundray, I use Debian for the moment.
[12:41] <FooAtari> wow i might have actually helped someone, when I have no idea what im doing myself...
[12:41] <spades> rellim run xfce-setting-show and click screensaver
[12:41] <jonass> you can set window resolution to 1024 in the x conf
[12:41] <jonass> or mom
[12:41] <Gassed> Hi my computer seems to have a problem uploading anything
[12:41] <wsjunior> jonass: i have an ati x200 on my laptop and after installing ati drivers i got a black screen after reboot...
[12:41] <Moosebuntu> I wish SoundJuicer displayed the status of CD ripping per song. :(
[12:41] <dbe> soundray, So all I want is to have the previleges to execute sudo as a regular user in Debian, can you help me or not?
[12:41] <squee> FooAtari    thanks! thats really useful!
[12:41] <rellim> spades: thanks
[12:41] <wsjunior> jonass: did u got 3d accel working?
[12:41] <Gassed> I can't upload with FTP, POST, or any other http html form
[12:42] <soundray> ScreaminIke: if you open your inbox with 'mutt -f Inbox', you can show all message duplicates with 'l <return> ~=' and delete them all.
[12:42] <tam> anyone know of any mplayer repos which is uptodate?
[12:42] <soundray> dbe: be a bit patient. You're not the only one needing help here.
[12:42] <jonass> do not know
[12:42] <jonass> i changed the default ati drivers
[12:42] <soundray> dbe: to edit sudoers, you use the visudo command.
[12:42] <jonass> they are crap
[12:42] <dbe> soundray, Sure, I'll wait.
[12:42] <Gassed> I can't upload with FTP, POST, or any other http html form
[12:42] <Gassed> I just get "waiting for ......." in Firefox
[12:43] <Gassed> in any FTP thing I get 'Transfer Stalled' at 100%
[12:43] <Moosebuntu> Gassed> I've found FIrefox does that alot, even when it's really not doing much of anything.  It's quite annoying.
[12:43] <dbe> soundray, That just opens /etc/sudoers with GNU nano in Debian.
[12:43] <crazy4ubuntu> the problem was solved - would be like this with out you who helped.
[12:43] <Gassed> Moosebuntu: It's not just Firefox, it's Epiphany web browser too, and any FTP client
[12:44] <crazy4ubuntu> 10x and peace 4 all
[12:44] <crazy4ubuntu> bye
[12:44] <Moosebuntu> strange
[12:44] <soundray> dbe: exactly, but it's the only reasonably safe way to edit sudoers (in Ubuntu at least, don't know about Debian)
[12:44] <Gassed> Very
[12:44] <dbe> soundray, Ok. then?
[12:44] <majd> Hey, i'm  trying to setup an ftp server. I installed proftpd and i dont know where to go from there
[12:44] <Gassed> Hello can anyone help my upload-disability?
[12:44] <majd> !proftpd
[12:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about proftpd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:45] <majd> !ftpserver
[12:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about ftpserver - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:45] <bbrazil> soundray: visudo is the only safe way with sudo anywhere
[12:45] <Gassed> ftp
[12:45] <Gassed> !ftp
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[12:45] <majd> Gassed, i'm looking for a url on how to set it up
[12:45] <gdb> dbe: When nano (or the editor you have selected) exits, visudo checks the syntax of the sudoers command and if it finds an error, offers to either let you continue editing it or to abort your changes.
[12:45] <Gassed> k
[12:45] <majd> can't find anything worthwile on google
[12:45] <soundray> dbe: now the three lines you should need in that file are 'Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn' and 'root    ALL=(ALL) ALL' and '%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL'
[12:45] <Gassed> http://www.google.com/search?q=configuring+proftpd
[12:45] <squee> how can i tell if acpi is on or off? I've looked through dmesg but i cant find the line or understand it. tnx
[12:45] <verix> hey, after I install the fglrx drivers, do I need to uninstall the mesa drivers?
[12:46] <soundray> bbrazil: thanks. Did you take note, dbe?
[12:46] <gdb> If you want more admin users, why not use the Users and Groups control panel?
[12:46] <jonass> !panel
[12:46] <jonass> !panels
[12:46] <gdb> Select each user and mark them as "Admin User".
[12:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about panel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about panels - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:46] <squee>  james_ how can i tell if acpi is on or off? I've looked through dmesg but i cant find the line or understand it. tnx
[12:46] <knapper> Anyone here use kroller?
[12:46] <gdb> It will take care of it without editing the sudoers file by putting them all in the admin group.  The admin group is the group that Ubnutu already has set up in sudoers.
[12:46] <dbe> soundray, Yes.
[12:46] <Gassed> Can anybody diagnose my uploading disability problem
[12:47] <soundray> dbe: is that "Yes thanks" or "Yes, but it doesn't solve my problem"?
[12:48] <soundray> jonass: Right click on the lower panel and select "New panel". Configure it to sit at the top.
[12:48] <Gassed> what's the heartbeat program?
[12:48] <niki> what's the command to make mplayer play a dvd?
[12:48] <deep_> OMG! Im watching this discoveryprogram called "I should'nt be alive". And its amazing. They REALLY should'nt be alive. :S
[12:48] <dbe> soundray, I'm working on it. Thank you for your support, I'll be back if their is something that I missing.
[12:48] <soundray> !info heartbeat
[12:48] <ubotu> heartbeat: Subsystem for High-Availability Linux. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.4-2 (dapper), package size 475 kB, installed size 1600 kB
[12:48] <Gassed> k
[12:48] <soundray> Gassed: ^^
[12:48] <squee> james_ this is the out put that seems to concern acpi....     [17179569.184000]  ACPI: RSDP (v000   MSI                                 ) @ 0x000f6e30
[12:48] <squee> [17179569.184000]  ACPI: RSDT (v001   MSI  AWRDACPI 0x00000000  0x00000000) @ 0x1fff3000
[12:48] <squee> [17179569.184000]  ACPI: FADT (v001   MSI  AWRDACPI 0x00000000  0x00000000) @ 0x1fff3040
[12:48] <squee> [17179569.184000]  ACPI: DSDT (v001   MSI  AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x01000007) @ 0x00000000
[12:48] <Gassed> !pastebin > squee
[12:48] <soundray> Gassed: for more info, 'apt-cache show hearbeat'
[12:49] <Gassed> k
[12:49] <soundray> s/hearbeat/heartbeat/
[12:49] <squee> Gassed sorry, still new here
[12:49] <Gassed> Can anyone help me find out why I can't upload with HTTP methods or FTP
[12:50] <FooAtari> when I run "make all" to install drivers as a module why do I get this....
[12:50] <soundray> Gassed: maybe a firewall prevents it
[12:50] <FooAtari> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[12:50] <Gassed> hmmm
[12:50] <Gassed> ill look
[12:50] <Gassed> I use Firestarter
[12:50] <FooAtari> isnt that what its supposed to be creating?
[12:50] <dbe> soundray, How do I reload the settings for /etc/sudoers to make them take action?
[12:51] <squee> james_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18116
[12:51] <bbrazil> dbe: you don't have to
[12:51] <Gassed> soundray: THANK YOU! it was Firestarter
[12:51] <dbe> bbrazil, Ok, thanks.
[12:51] <soundray> dbe: by exiting the nano instance you invoked with visudo
[12:52] <bbrazil> Gassed: a gas stream editor?
[12:52] <Gassed> bbrazil: no. the word 'gas' i jusy like
[12:52] <Gassed> just*
[12:52] <squee> how can i tell whether acpi is on or off, the following is the dmesg output that looks relavent to acpi. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18116
[12:52] <Gassed> hehe
[12:52] <dbe> soundray, I just get "dbe is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." when I run "sudo echo foo"
[12:52] <ryanakca> when I go aptitude install courier-imap courier-imap-ssl courier-pop courier-pop-ssl... I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/89178 ... what's going on?
[12:52] <soundray> dbe: is dbe in the admin group?
[12:53] <dbe> soundray, No, and I don't know how I should set it.
[12:53] <theCore> how do i unfreeze a TTY from Ctrl-s again?
[12:53] <bbrazil> theCore: crtl-q
[12:53] <compengi> where can i find name.conf file in ubuntu
[12:53] <theCore> thanks
[12:53] <bbrazil> compengi: named.conf? Install bind9, /etc/bind9
[12:54] <soundray> dbe: are you root atm?
[12:54] <bbrazil> dbe: adduser dbe admin
[12:54] <dbe> bbrazil, That gives me: "adduser: The group `admin' does not exist."
[12:55] <dbe> soundray, atm?
[12:55] <soundray> bbrazil: mind you, he's on Debian...
[12:55] <soundray> dbe: at the moment
[12:55] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: hi
[12:55] <bbrazil> soundray: ah, that makes a difference
[12:55] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: hi!
[12:55] <piwi> !divx
[12:55] <niki> !dvd
[12:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:55] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:56] <bbrazil> dbe: in sudoes, where is says %admin, change it to dbe
[12:56] <dash`> how does one search through all the files in a directory for a certain filename?
[12:56] <gdb> bbrazil: Why?
[12:56] <Dr4g> Whats "BurnFree" on gnomebaker?
[12:56] <Dr4g> -
[12:56] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: ok, finally my left audio seems to be crackling in ubuntu, but I know it's not a hardware issue, because it works great in windows, so I'm figuring it's a driver/configureation problem
[12:56] <gdb> dbe: Add dbe to group admin in /etc/group
[12:56] <bbrazil> gdb: he's on debian
[12:56] <soundray> dbe: listen to dbe, and do it with visudo of course
[12:56] <soundray> dbe: listen to bbrazil, and do it with visudo of course
[12:56] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: ``amixer'' pastebinned?
[12:56] <soundray> sry
[12:56] <gdb> bbrazil: Ah, I see. lol
[12:57] <Dr4g> -Whats "BurnFree" on gnomebaker?
[12:57] <dbe> bbrazil, Thank you.
[12:57] <gdb> bbrazil: I guess the #ubuntu folks are more helpful than those in #debian. ;-)
[12:57] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: one moment...
[12:57] <bbrazil> gdb: from my time in #debian it would seem to be the other way around
[12:57] <bbrazil> gdb: the amount of times we had to send people in here...
[12:57] <element> what's the easiest way to install kde over gnome on a fresh install?
[12:57] <bbrazil> element: sudo apt-get instal;l kubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <LjL> element: "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[12:58] <gdb> element: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[12:58] <element> whoa...
[12:58] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18117
[12:58] <element> awesome, thanks!
[12:58] <soundray> element, shall I say it too? ;)
[12:58] <dbe> soundray, bbrazil Ok it works fine now. But it didnt ask for password so how secure is it?
[12:58] <bbrazil> dbe: is NOPASSWD in sudoers?
[12:58] <soundray> dbe: it's as secure as the password you set for dbe
[12:58] <gdb> element: if you use aptitude, and decide you don't care for KDE, you can remove it all easily with one command "sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop" -- aptitude will track the dependancies that package installed and remove them for you.
[12:59] <deep> Psycadelic. <3
[12:59] <zcat[1] > gdb: it does?!!
[12:59] <dbe> soundray, But I would rather be asked for the root pass when I execute root tasks with dbe.
[12:59] <LjL> zcat[1] : yes it does
[12:59] <gdb> zcat[1] : Yes
[12:59] <zcat[1] > cool
[12:59] <bbrazil> dbe: there's an option for that - check the sudoers manpage
[12:59] <DaveyJ> anyone play with the new gnome yet?
[12:59] <soundray> dbe: you're missing the point of sudo there ;)
[01:00] <dbe> soundray, I have a feeling about that.
[01:00] <bbrazil> dbe: from a security standpoint, it makes no difference though
[01:00] <zcat[1] > synaptic only removes the metapackage (ie nothing!)
[01:00] <dbe> soundray, I want it secure as Ubuntu simply.
[01:00] <bbrazil> dbe: in the ubuntu setup, the deb account and root account are equivilent from a security standpoint
[01:00] <soundray> dbe: at least in my view, sudo's main benefit is that you can disable root logins.
[01:00] <gdb> zcat[1] : If you want to remove it with apt-get, you can use the information on this page (which you may bookmark): http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[01:01] <LjL> dbe: debian is no more or less secure than ubuntu in that respect. it just has a different default way of managing privileges
[01:01] <gdb> zcat[1] : Click the Pure GNOME link for the information.
[01:01] <wall0159> greetings all. Having some trouble with an external FW DVD-RW.Will not mount DVDs. dmesg has a heap of "ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command" and a couple of other bits, before concluding with "ieee1394: sbp2: scsi_add_device failed" FW seems to work ok, as I use my ipod fairly successfully. Any suggestions?
[01:01] <bbrazil> soundray: debatable. remote root logins should be disabled anyway. And if you have physical access, you have everything
[01:01] <soundray> dbe: so a remote attacker would have to not only guess your password, but your username, too.
[01:01] <Adol> One of my directories on an external hd has changed to an "unknown file type, anc I can't get at any of the files inside.  Does anyone know how to fix that?"
[01:01] <dbe> LjL, Yes but that has to do directly with default security.
[01:01] <whyameye> how would I set up a raid 5 array?
[01:02] <bbrazil> soundray: enumeration attacks aren't hard
[01:02] <morrolan> !fonts
[01:02] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:02] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:02] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: so? also, windows reports I have a SigmaTel HIgh Def. Audio CODEC for integrated sound
[01:02] <tmh__> why does my ubuntu server listen to only ipv6 connections?
[01:02] <dbe> soundray, Ok. Well thats better.
[01:02] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: I'll get to your pastebin in a sec
[01:02] <pianoboy3333> kk
[01:02] <bbrazil> tmh__: I've noticed that myself, ipv4 still works
[01:02] <zcat[1] > someone needs to add the same logic to synaptic .. my system is full of old dependencies :)
[01:03] <LjL> dbe: well you could arguably say that the debian way is *more* secure. not that i actually want to argue about this, i really like how ubuntu works, but if you're trying to "bring debian to the same high levels of security as ubuntu", i think you're misguided
[01:03] <dbe> soundray, How do I disable root?
[01:03] <soundray> bbrazil: it's just another barrier that will lock out some black hats, but not others.
[01:03] <whyameye> !raid
[01:03] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:03] <soundray> dbe: passwd -l
[01:03] <LjL> zcat[1] : i'd love that. (actually, i'd love it in Adept, since i don't use Synaptic)
[01:03] <bbrazil> dbe: careful now, ubuntu has a different 'login' that allows root login in single user mode without a password
[01:03] <tmh__> bbrazil: but on me, ipv6 does NOT work. apache, ssh, all listen to only ipv6
[01:04] <bbrazil> dbe: althoguh the appropriate kernel boot args can get around that
[01:04] <samu2> where do i change which country's repository servers my synaptic downloads from?
[01:04] <bbrazil> tmh__: does v4 work? telnet -4 localhost 80
[01:04] <tmh__> no. they only listen to ipv6.
[01:04] <pianoboy3333> LjL: what's adept?
[01:04] <soundray> bbrazil: can you elaborate on the kernel boot args?
[01:04] <LjL> samu2: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:04] <zcat[1] > samu2: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change the country-code
[01:04] <ryanakca> when I go aptitude install courier-imap courier-imap-ssl courier-pop courier-pop-ssl... I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/89178 ... what's going on?
[01:05] <LjL> pianoboy3333: the thing that comes with Kubuntu instead of Synaptic. though it's really quite different from Synaptic
[01:05] <samu2> can't i do it from synaptic?
[01:05] <bbrazil> soundray: init=/bin/sh
[01:05] <LjL> samu2: dunno
[01:05] <zcat[1] > samu2: probably, but I don't know how :)
[01:05] <bbrazil> tmh__: what are you basing this on?
[01:05] <tmh__> because 1) I can't connect through IPv4, 2) I can see both with netstat and lsof -i that they only listen to IPv6
[01:05] <soundray> bbrazil: I think I'd use the grub password feature to guard against unauthorized console users starting up in recovery mode
[01:06] <bbrazil> tmh__: I've got a server here that shows that on netstat, but v4 works fine
[01:06] <mwsmedia> Hello everyone... so glad you're here... of course I've got a question.
[01:06] <gdb> soundray: You get the same function by setting a root password.
[01:06] <bbrazil> soundray: and that's what a boot cd is for
[01:06] <zcat[1] > samu2: go into the repos setting, edit the first one, custom channel, change the country code there
[01:06] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: at what levels (and for which mixer elements) does the crackling become undetectable?
[01:06] <zcat[1] > and so on for the rest
[01:06] <gdb> soundray: The console user can either continue to boot multiuser or enter the root password for single user.
[01:06] <ubuntu> hey, can anyone tell me how to mount one of my drives?
[01:06] <zcat[1] > editing /etc/apt/sources.list would be easier :)
[01:06] <tmh__> bbrazil: maybe they're listening to both?
[01:06] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: hmmmm... what file/song should I use to test?
[01:07] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: any
[01:07] <abonilla> ubuntu: what fs?
[01:07] <bbrazil> tmh__: that's what I was trying to say. Now run telnet -4 localhost 80
[01:07] <linuxgoober> reiser
[01:07] <piwi> hi
[01:07] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: I'm going to use gnome-volume-control to ajust ok?
[01:07] <gdb> But yes, the Ubuntu Desktop CD makes for a wonderful recovery tool for any console user. ;-)  Even if you're "recovering" someone else's data.
[01:07] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: sure
[01:07] <ubuntu> abonilla: ext, linux
[01:07] <LjL> soundray, bbrazil... there's really no going around it, if a user has physical access to the computer, he has root. best you could do is set a grub password *and* a BIOS password, and disable boot from disk or CD, and physically lock your computer so the backup battery can't be removed.
[01:08] <piwi> hello, ubuntu wiki says to enable mp3 and divx playback, you have to install gstreamer-xxxxxx packages. question is: where to find those packages??
[01:08] <samu2> zcat[1] : yeah this seems to work, but this way i still have to edit them all manually and one by one
[01:08] <mwsmedia> My question (not uncommon) is on how to use a Netgear WG111v2 USB wifi card on my Dell Inspiron 1100.  Using Dapper.  I've already tried the directions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212365
[01:08] <bbrazil> LjL: hacksaw
[01:08] <LjL> !tell piwi about packages
[01:08] <bbrazil> piwi: they're in the restricted repositry
[01:08] <zcat[1] > samu2: you could also get source-o-matic to build a whole new sources.list for you..
[01:09] <zcat[1] > !easysource
[01:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:09] <soundray> gdb, bbrazil, LjL: I hate the security subject. You know why? Each time I discuss it, I learn how naive and gullible I am...
[01:09] <samu2> zcat[1] : hmm, but shouldnt synaptic be dedicated to this stuff?
[01:09] <bbrazil> tmh__: did that work?
[01:09] <dbe> soundray, passwd -l = "sudo's main benefit is that you can disable root logins" ?
[01:09] <aztun> hi
[01:09] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: well, I guess it's kind of hard to determine... I have somany volumes to play with, everything in alsamixer/gnome-volume-control and my speaker volume
[01:09] <piwi> bbrazil: so I just have to download them on packages.ubuntu.com and install them and thats it? I cant find them in the packages manager that comes with the system
[01:09] <IIIEars> soundray - can i borrow a couple dollars to help a nigerian diplmat? - j/k
[01:10] <soundray> dbe: yeah
[01:10] <zcat[1] > samu2: yes. You can quite easily edit them, one at a time, through synaptic. :)
[01:10] <Jamo> hello, is there any reason why I wouldn't want to remove all world permissions?  I find it disturbing that any user can view files like /etc/group
[01:10] <bbrazil> piwi: you need to add restricted, you can do that from inside synaptic
[01:10] <dbe> soundray, Which file does it edit?
[01:10] <LjL> piwi: no, you *can* find them in the package manager (Synaptic, or whatever), but you need to add the right repository
[01:10] <LjL> !tell piwi about repos
[01:10] <aztun> anyone knows if there is any mirror for plf packages?? two mirrors I know are down...  :(
[01:10] <soundray> IIIEars: erm, I only have pound sterling on me right now...
[01:10] <samu2> zcat[1] : yeah but there should be an option to change all of them at once or something
[01:10] <zcat[1] > most people don't often need to change the repo country in  their sources.list..
[01:10] <soundray> dbe: /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow, I believe
[01:10] <LjL> piwi: i'd enable the Universe and Multiverse repos, in additions to the ones you already have enabled
[01:11] <bbrazil> Jamo: things will break
[01:11] <zcat[1] > s/often/almost never/
[01:11] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: a good starting point is to set 'Front' and 'PCM' to 50%
[01:11] <samu2> zcat[1] : where does it get its initial server settings anyway?
[01:11] <bbrazil> Jamo: and /etc/group contains no sensitive information
[01:11] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: then only adjust your speakers.
[01:11] <IIIEars> soundray - gotta agree with you there. - it seems the more you know the more you need to know. an ever expanding balloon the more you know the more contact there is with things ya don't know.
[01:11] <zcat[1] > your country during the install
[01:11] <mwsmedia> Anyone have any experience with the Netgear WG111v2 USB wifi dongle?  Using a Dell Inspiron 1100, Dapper.
[01:11] <Jamo> bbrazil: you think normal users should know the group structure, ie who is in the admin group ect?
[01:12] <bbrazil> Jamo: if your security depends on the mnot knowing, you have problems
[01:12] <piwi> LjL: bbrazil: thanks for your help, I'll read all these and get back to you if I have any queries. cheers!
[01:12] <LjL> soundray: oh and then, last time i mentioned BIOS passwords, i've been reminded that most BIOS's have a backdoor password. so you'd have to "fix" the BIOS as well
[01:12] <zcat[1] > (/me often uses the .au repos since the .nz ones are sometimes a bit behind)
[01:12] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: ok... PCM at 50%, front at 50% all else at 100%, speakers all the way up, still crackling
[01:13] <dbe> soundray, then it's shouldn't be sudo who blocks root, its /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd.
[01:13] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: maybe it's the song....?
[01:13] <pianoboy3333> hmmm
[01:13] <zcat[1] > anyhow, how many repos do you have? four or five.. shouldn't take long to change them all..
[01:13] <samu2> Was there some easy way to set up AMP in ubuntu with dapper?
[01:13] <dbe> soundray, I just want to make sure because I write everything down.
[01:13] <soundray> dbe: I never said that it was.
[01:13] <LjL> piwi: it's simpler than it might look. there is a file, /etc/apt/sources.list , that contains a list of places your system is going to download packages from. the "universe" and "multiverse" places are not enabled by default, for various reasons, so you need to add them manually. you can do that using Synaptic, as those pages say, or you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly, and possibly use the !easysource information from Ubotu to change it
[01:14] <dbe> soundray, "dbe: at least in my view, sudo's main benefit is that you can disable root logins."
[01:14] <abraham> Does anyone know how to mount a hdd when you are using the ubuntu live cd?
[01:14] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: one moment
[01:14] <niki> cd /etc/init.d
[01:14] <Hyper> mount /dev/hda1 /locatoin ?
[01:14] <soundray> dbe: (one of) the benefit(s) of using sudo is that you don't have to log in as root anymore. You can thus lock the root account, and use sudo for all admin tasks instead.
[01:14] <niki> whoops
[01:14] <Jamo> bbrazil: by default when a user creates a file in their home directory it is readable by everyone
[01:15] <LjL> zcat[1] : no matter how many i've got, it's never going to take long if you just use sed ;-)
[01:15] <zcat[1] > abraham: open a root terminal, make a mountpoint (mkdir hda1/) then mount it (mount /dev/hda1 hda1)
[01:15] <soundray> dbe: and don't quote me, I can remember fairly well what I said.
[01:15] <abraham> zcat[1] , thanks
[01:15] <dbe> soundray, I didn't mean to be pedant.
[01:15] <squee> can anyone tell me how you can tell and change the acpi=on or is this a BIOS thing?
[01:15] <zcat[1] > LjL: terminalophobic user, wants to use synaptic.. :)
[01:15] <bbrazil> Jamo: then change your umask
[01:16] <meekish> i am trying to apt-get lighttpd, but sudo apt-get install lighttpd yiels "Couldn't find package lighttpd". I ran sudo apt-get update. What could be the problem?
[01:16] <skavenge> why dont my changes to login manager in kde change my login screen? it defaults to the normal kde login screen regardless of what i change, is it set somewhere else as well?
[01:16] <mwsmedia> Can anyone help with a wireless question?
[01:16] <dbe> soundray, I have get it from a hacker in #gnu =).
[01:16] <LjL> zcat[1] : oh right. well you can still use a text editor's find+replace function, it's technically not "terminal" ;-) assuming there's a way to start a superuser mode text editor from GUI, that is
[01:16] <abraham> zcat[1] , once I have created the dir and then tried that command it tells me to specify the filesystem type
[01:16] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: I'd say the crackling doesn't go away, it just gets lower as I lower my speaker volume
[01:16] <squee> details on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ under squee
[01:17] <LjL> meekish: do you have Universe enabled?
[01:17] <zcat[1] > gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:17] <meekish> i don't know. how can i check?
[01:17] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: ok, then you'll need to try the various position_fix values.
[01:17] <LjL> !tell meekish about repos
[01:17] <zcat[1] > sorry, alt-F2 first to run that without openin g a terminal :)
[01:17] <samu2> is there a package that contains apache, mysql and php?
[01:17] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: where can I fill that in?
[01:17] <LjL> meekish: look at /etc/apt/sources.list and see if universe is commented out. if it is, uncomment it and run an apt-get update
[01:17] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: close everything using /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*, modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && modprobe snd-hda-intel position_fix=1
[01:18] <mahi> hi.. centrino duo core utilizes only cpu1 while running glxgears.. is this normal??????
[01:18] <meekish> is universe stable?
[01:18] <zcat[1] > abraham: oh... fdisk -l /dev/hda so see how it's partitioned..
[01:18] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: repeat for values 2 and 3 if 1 doesn't work.
[01:18] <bbrazil> samu2: no, but you can install them all with one command
[01:18] <samu2> bbrazil: oh?
[01:18] <soundray> LjL: congratulations on your nation's amazing football team.
[01:18] <LjL> meekish: the quality and stability of packages in Universe can vary, and security updates aren't guaranteed.
[01:18] <bbrazil> samu2: sudo aptitude install apache2 mysql-server php4
[01:18] <zcat[1] > abraham: it might not even be /dev/hda, check dmesg and see what filesystems got detected?
[01:18] <soundray> G'night everybody
[01:18] <bbrazil> samu2: that might be a tad off
[01:18] <LjL> soundray: thanks :)
[01:18] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: how can I find out what's using those devices?
[01:19] <piwi> LjL: do you reckon I should use these experimental repositories from the source-o-matic page or not? I am close to newbie when it comes to unix at the moment
[01:19] <abraham> zcat[1] , done fdisk -l hda and it gave me the partition layout
[01:19] <meekish> ok, thank you :)
[01:19] <Seveas> @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer
[01:19] <Ubugtu> False
[01:19] <zcat[1] > abraham: cool, which one looks like th one you wanted to mount?
[01:19] <mahi> anybody here running dual core cpus??:-[
[01:19] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: just close all sound applications?
[01:19] <LjL> piwi: which are the experimental ones?
[01:19] <Seveas> http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[01:20] <squee> can anyone tell me how you can tell and change the acpi=on or is this a BIOS thing?
[01:20] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: and, should I run modprobe as root?
[01:20] <IIIEars> Seveas - Hi!   Can you help squee with his acpi question?
[01:20] <abraham> zcat[1] , hda1...
[01:20] <Seveas> IIIEars, no
[01:20] <IIIEars> Okay.
[01:20] <mahi> squee: edit the grub config
[01:20] <squee> mahi how?
[01:20] <LjL> piwi: i'd normally just enable main, restricted (former two are usually enabled by default), universe and multiverse
[01:20] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: modprobe requires privileged access, yes.
[01:20] <squee> mahi, sorry still learning!
[01:20] <LjL> piwi: and the "bleeding edge" wine repo, if you use wine
[01:20] <mahi> while booting chose the kernel image press e and all acpi=off
[01:20] <zcat[1] > abraham: what FS is on it? usually when mount can't autodetect it's because you're trying to mount a swap partition or something..
[01:20] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: yes, you may need to log out of GNOME first.
[01:20] <piwi> LjL: on this page http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic you have official ubuntu and ubuntu community repos and then below you have lots of repos that are said to be unsafe and harmful for the system
[01:21] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: logout, then back in?
[01:21] <LjL> piwi: if you don't need them, don't enabled them.
[01:21] <mahi> *all > add
[01:21] <Adol> Is there a way to repair a directory that ha somehow been changed to an "unknown file type?"  I'd guess I'd have to change the MIME type for it but am unsure how.
[01:21] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: or just kill the mixer applet, too
[01:21] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: then run the commands? or run the commands first?
[01:21] <abraham> zcat[1] , under system it just says "linux" but i'm sure it's ext2
[01:21] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: killall esd?
[01:21] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: then modprobe -r && ...
[01:21] <squee> IIIEars, thanks
[01:21] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: no.
[01:21] <Russel> hiho
[01:21] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[01:21] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: kk...
[01:21] <abraham> zcat[1] , it should be whatever filesystem that the ubuntu installer cd formats in by default
[01:21] <LjL> piwi: you *might* need the one containing the w32codecs, since you appear to be trying to get multimedia stuff to work
[01:21] <zcat[1] > mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 hda1/  perhaps?
[01:21] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: kill those processes, then modprobe -r  [..] 
[01:22] <zcat[1] > agg, ext3
[01:22] <Russel> i have a little question, i just tried the live cd of the new release
[01:22] <piwi> LjL: Im not quite sure wether I need them or not... I'd just like to install the required packages to play divx and mp3 and matroska files
[01:22] <LjL> piwi: note that you need to have a valid Windows license to legally use w32codecs, though
[01:22] <Russel> and which script does the gnome acpi thing is using to suspend
[01:22] <zcat[1] > mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 hda1/  perhaps? it should definately have autodetected that though..
[01:22] <piwi> LjL: I do, I have the ssticker license that comes with my laptop ;)
[01:22] <squee> LjL legally....
[01:22] <IIIEars> Np,  I am a Seveas fan. He contributes quite a lot to ubuntu.
[01:22] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: ok
[01:23] <LjL> piwi: you don't need them for mp3. i don't think you need them for divx either, and i don't know what a matroska file is.
[01:23] <Russel> and main question: is kubuntu using the same script and is there a nice tool for it?
[01:24] <piwi> LjL: matroska is a nice video container. using realplayer codecs, makes perfect image, mp3/4 or ogg soundtracks you usually have two languages and includes subtitles and chapters as well
[01:24] <abraham> zcat[1] , thanks that worked but it turned out to be the wrong hdd
[01:24] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: I think it worked, will it stay like that when I reboot?!?!?!?
[01:24] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: what worked?
[01:25] <piwi> LjL: so basically it makes a 700mb movie look like a dvd with multiple audio, chapters, subtitles and covers. plus its an excellent way to know if a movie is good or not... If it hasnt been encoded in matroska format then it is a crap movie or a brand new one that hasnt been done yet
[01:25] <crimsun> as in "which value" worked?#
[01:25] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel position_fix=1
[01:25] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: no, it won't stick.
[01:25] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: how can I make it stick?
[01:25] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: you have to do this: echo "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel
[01:26] <Marsmensch> hi i have installed the php5-cgi package but it still doesn't work. anyone has an idea?
[01:26] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: ok, kool, thanks, I have to go now
[01:26] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: I'll catch you later
[01:26] <zcat[1] > piwi: know of any software that will rip a dvd to matroska?
[01:27] <tmh__> zcat[1] : I think the most touted dvd ripping software is handbrake, and I think it knows how to do that by at least plugins
[01:27] <piwi> zcat[1] : actually I dont... I have to admit that I am an honteous leecher regarding mkv movies........
[01:28] <piwi> zcat[1] : but you can try to make a search on matroska and mkv or mka
[01:28] <morrolan> !synaptics
[01:28] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[01:28] <LjL> piwi: well, a quick APT search makes it look like gstreamer can support mastroska through ffmpeg
[01:29] <LjL> piwi: (and that's all in Universe)
[01:29] <Gassed> What can un RAR in Linux?
[01:29] <jrib> Gassed: unrar
[01:29] <zcat[1] > bah, I want something easy like k9copy or acidrip :)
[01:29] <jrib> !rar > Gassed
[01:29] <linuxgoober> there is a linux version of winrar
[01:29] <jyoungxx> anybody know why when I add new software sometimes it doesn't show up in the menu until later?  I checked the menu editor and it shows it in the list but it doesn't show it on the menu yet.
[01:30] <LjL> zcat[1] : you might perhaps look at the mkvtoolnix-gui package
[01:30] <J-_> How can I get permissions to a .deb file after changing it from a .rpm to .deb?
[01:30] <LjL> J-_: "changing" it like what?
[01:30] <jrib> J-_: permissions to do what?
[01:30] <jyoungxx> chmod 777 foo.deb
[01:30] <J-_> i've chmod 666 <filename> still can't install it
[01:30] <J-_> hmm
[01:31] <LjL> J-_: *how* did you change it from rpm into deb?
[01:31] <J-_> alien
[01:31] <LjL> J-_: and you're installing it with dpkg?
[01:31] <J-_> alien -d <filename>
[01:31] <J-_> yes
[01:31] <zcat[1] > dpkg -i foo.deb
[01:31] <LjL> J-_: what's the specific error?
[01:32] <jyoungxx> dpkg -iv foo.deb
[01:32] <jyoungxx> v for verbose if you want
[01:32] <zcat[1] > apt-get install foo (and forget about converting packages!!)
[01:32] <J-_> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[01:32] <jrib> Gassed: be more specific, what do you mean "it don't work"?
[01:32] <ardchoille> J-_: You don't need to use the -d with alien as "to deb" is the default
[01:32] <Gassed> ill show you
[01:32] <LjL> J-_, zcat[1]  is correct. avoid alien as much as you can
[01:32] <piwi> LjL: all right, thanks. what is the command in the console to have this text editor you exit with control-X? (sorry I dont remember the name of it)
[01:32] <J-_> k
[01:32] <jrib> Gassed: k, if it's a long paste, remember to use pastebin
[01:32] <LjL> piwi: nano
[01:32] <Adol> Does anyone know offhand how to change the MIME type of an unknown file to that of a folder?  Sorry to keep bringing it up.
[01:33] <jyoungxx> alien doesn't always work with my experience
[01:33] <linuxgoober> what packages do i need to build from a .tar.bz2?
[01:33] <jyoungxx> but I don't have too much exp either
[01:33] <zcat[1] > !be
[01:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about be - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:33] <LjL> Adol: hmm? i don't think a folder can have a MIME type
[01:33] <zcat[1] > !b-e
[01:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:33] <Gassed> BeOS?
[01:33] <jrib> !compile > linuxgoober
[01:33] <linuxgoober> k thx
[01:33] <ardchoille> linuxgoober: you need build-essential
[01:33] <arooni> does anyone know where the true path to ri lies on ubuntu linux (ive already installed it but i need the real path to it )
[01:33] <J-_> yeah i'm a newb too, learning pretty quickly though =D
[01:33] <Marsmensch> !help cgi
[01:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about help cgi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:33] <jrib> arooni: which ri
[01:33] <Marsmensch> !help php5
[01:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about help php5 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:33] <jyoungxx> anybody know why when I add new software sometimes it doesn't show up in the menu until later?  I checked the menu editor and it shows it in the list but it doesn't show it on the menu yet.
[01:33] <Gassed> jrib: See my problem?
[01:34] <arooni> jrib: ri1.8
[01:34] <zcat[1] > !zcat
[01:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about zcat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:34] <Bizzeh> hey, does ubuntu have any packages to turn it into a media center?
[01:34] <jrib> Gassed: the package is unrar I believe, not unrar-nonfree (in Dapper)
[01:34] <Gassed> I am in Uubntu 5.10
[01:34] <jrib> arooni: nah, that's the command: which ri
[01:34] <zcat[1] > bah!! I'm an important command!!
[01:34] <Gassed> Ubuntu*
[01:34] <jyoungxx> zcat is a read-out of a zipped up text file
[01:34] <LjL> jyoungxx: i don't know *why*, but i know it does sometimes happen
[01:34] <ardchoille> arooni: He gave you a command.. "which ri", that will tell you where the binary is. The install is probably in /usr/lib/ri
[01:34] <jrib> Gassed: oh, then you need multiverse
[01:34] <jrib> !multiverse > Gassed
[01:35] <zcat[1] > zcat == gzip -dc
[01:35] <Gassed> where do i get multiverse?
[01:35] <jrib> Gassed: ubotu should have sent you some info
[01:35] <LjL> Gassed: read Ubotu's links and you'll know ;)
[01:35] <Gassed> jrib: btw I tried with sudo apt-get install unrar and I get the same result
[01:35] <jrib> Gassed: yeah, unrar-nonfree is correct for 5.10
[01:35] <LjL> !info unrar-nonfree breezy
[01:35] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), package size 83 kB, installed size 216 kB
[01:36] <wory> test
[01:36] <arooni> jrib: so it is in /usr/bin/ri ... but when i try to feed that into eclipse it balks
[01:36] <arooni> jrib: i think i need the real path not a symlink
[01:36] <LjL> wory: test successful
[01:36] <jrib> arooni: readlink -f /usr/bin/ri
[01:36] <Gassed> How do I make use of a 'repositry'?
[01:36] <athcsx> hi all
[01:36] <Adol> Heh okay- when I view a folder in gnome-commander it sort of looks like it has a MIME type (x-directory/normal), but I'll admit I'm not real clear on it.  I just need to figure out how to make this file a folder again.
[01:36] <athcsx> i have a major problem
[01:36] <jrib> Gassed: read the links from ubotu :)
[01:36] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm wondering if anybody might know how to get the linuxwacom driver working for xorg 7.1
[01:36] <wory> 
[01:36] <jrib> !zh
[01:36] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:37] <athcsx> the gnu coreutils package (with cp mv, etc) all segfault when i use them from the command line
[01:37] <athcsx> any ideas
[01:37] <athcsx> need help
[01:37] <LjL> Gassed: using apt-get (or synaptic or whatever). you have two repositories enabled by default, "main" and "restricted". there's also two other official ones, "universe" and "multiverse". read ubotu's links and you'll know how to get access to them
[01:38] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: I just rebooted, it's crackling again...
[01:38] <athcsx> anyone?
[01:38] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: then posfix 1 wasn't appropriate. Keep going with 2.
[01:38] <LjL> athcsx: have any non-standard repositories enabled? have any strange version of libc6 installed?
[01:38] <athcsx> nope
[01:39] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: but it worked, after I did it, but just when I rebooted it stopped working good
[01:39] <athcsx> LjL: all standard ubuntu repositories from official ubuntu servers
[01:39] <jrib> athcsx: what version of ubuntu?
[01:39] <zcat[1] > oh well.. things to do..
[01:39] <Gassed> cya all later - I am going to update to 6.06 LTS
[01:39] <athcsx> jrib: its breezy, and i know someone is going to say upgrade to dapper
[01:39] <athcsx> :-)
[01:39] <jrib> athcsx: nah, I was just making sure it wasn't edgy
[01:39] <deep> Err. anthropomorphize? What does that meen? :P
[01:40] <Bizzeh> does ubuntu have any packages to turn it into a media center?
[01:40] <athcsx> jrib: so what could be the problem?
[01:40] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: then unload it and pass the posfix parameter
[01:40] <jbxyo> How I use pearpc
[01:40] <athcsx> jrib: it worked fine just the other night
[01:40] <LjL> deep: make it sound like they're similar to humans
[01:40] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: right, but how can I get it to work for after I reboot
[01:40] <athcsx> jrib: until today
[01:40] <jrib> athcsx: that's really strange, don't know what would cause that
[01:40] <geokok> hi all
[01:40] <LjL> jbxyo: i'm not familiar with it, but you might try "man pearpc"
[01:41] <jbxyo> mac pearpc ?
[01:41] <deep> LjL: Hhaahaha! :D
[01:41] <skavenge> why dont any of my changes to login manager work in kde? regardless of what changed there the login screen is still the default kubuntu one .. how do i change it?
[01:41] <athcsx> jrib: i did a dpkg-reconfigure of coreutils and console-tools but still no luck
[01:41] <LjL> jbxyo: yeah, i mean try typing that
[01:41] <LjL> jbxyo: in a console
[01:41] <jbxyo> oh
[01:41] <jbxyo> no manual
[01:41] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: you can't if it doesn't work by default.
[01:41] <jrib> athcsx: check dmesg for errors?
[01:41] <brandon_> are printer drivers not kernel modules?
[01:42] <kbrooks> `did you hear that plf stopped maintaining their ubuntu packages...
[01:42] <athcsx> jrib: exactly what kind of errors am i looking for?
[01:42] <LjL> jbxyo: right, that's "man ppc"
[01:42] <jrib> athcsx: anything peculiar, I'm just suggesting that because I don't really have a clue what would cause that
[01:42] <jbxyo> oh
[01:42] <J-_> is it hard to set up a all in one printer in linux?
[01:43] <geokok> anyone here can help me uninstall a game?
[01:43] <jbxyo> thx
[01:43] <athcsx> jrib: the only think mentioned is something about a keymap thing in atkbd.c
[01:44] <ownz00r> geokok: uninstall ? cd /boot;rm -rf *;shutdown -r
[01:44] <tanlaan> need help installing mono...it could not mark two packages and said this...http://pastebin.ca/89222 can anyone help?
[01:44] <geokok> ow where do i type that?
[01:44] <athcsx> jrib: so any other ideas?
[01:44] <Bizzeh> dont
[01:45] <Bizzeh> geokok: dont
[01:45] <geokok> why?
[01:45] <athcsx> jrib: i probably should just upgrade anyways, since dapper is out
[01:45] <tvalladon> anyone have any experince setting up ubuntu as a thin client?
[01:45] <brandon_> because you'll blow up your system
[01:45] <LjL> !ops
[01:45] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:45] <IIIEars> it removes ALL files from the ubuntu partition
[01:45] <LjL> ops: see ownz00r above
[01:45] <geokok> .......nice......well i am used to that by now
[01:45] <geokok> thanks champ
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ty
[01:45] <Bizzeh> it will just show the uninstall help stuff, remove all your boot stuff, and shutdown your pc
[01:45] <ownz00r> wow
[01:46] <Bizzeh> making your ubuntu install unbootable
[01:46] <gdb> Which package provices javac in 6.06?
[01:46] <gdb> provides*
[01:46] <jrib> athcsx: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-April/msg05112.html seems to have had the same exact problem, maybe the thread can help you out some
[01:46] <samu2> does ubuntu hide its hostname from routers by default or is my router just crazy?
[01:46] <geokok> ok......maybe i ll stick to the forum for such questions
[01:46] <LjL> geokok: not all people here behave like that guy
[01:47] <LjL> geokok: especially since people like that don't stay here for long. how did you install the game in the first place?
[01:47] <athcsx> jrib: wow
[01:47] <geokok> I know...in fact the way people behave in your community is the reason I chose to stick with ubuntu
[01:47] <athcsx> jrib: i am thinking the same thing now
[01:47] <Bizzeh> im still wary about ubuntu
[01:47] <Bizzeh> because of its debian roots
[01:47] <LjL> gdb: gcj i think
[01:47] <tuxtux> good night
[01:48] <theDave> anyone know how to change the resolution of a base install command prompt without a windows manager on top
[01:48] <geokok> well its the game "tremulous". It had a script I run with sh ./
[01:48] <theDave> installing server 6.06
[01:48] <mister_roboto> gdb: sun-java5-jdk if you want the Sun java
[01:48] <tanlaan> im trying to install something that needs .NET, so i want to install mono, but it wont let me install it because i already have updated versions of mono-common and mono-jit which are its dependancies. but it will not allow me to install them be cause it gives me an error http://pastebin.ca/89222. What should i do? And can anyone help me understand how to install .msi on ubuntu?
[01:48] <Subhuman> theDave, umm possibly pass vga options on the boot?
[01:48] <theDave> easy enough to pick a better res for installation... then it just goes back to default... whatever.  640x480
[01:48] <LjL> theDave: you can use the "vga" or the "vesa" kernel parameter, or the "svgatextmode" program. there are probably also other methods
[01:48] <gdb> Yeah, I have the Sun version in /opt, but I'm looking to keep what's "installed" as Free as possible.
[01:48] <geokok> it is supposed to use an un-install script that uses a .loki directory
[01:48] <gdb> I'm interested in getting the GNU javac.
[01:48] <theDave> would i put those params in a start-up script?
[01:49] <Bizzeh> geokok: in your home directory
[01:49] <Bizzeh> do a ls -a
[01:49] <ardchoille> theDave: I added vga=791 to the kernel line in menu.lst and it works fine
[01:49] <Bizzeh> will show all files and directorys
[01:49] <geokok> but all I get is  "NO usable uninstall found. Abording"
[01:49] <samu2> can you do something like windows "ipconfig /renew" ?
[01:49] <geokok> k
[01:49] <LjL> gdb: type sudo update-alternatives --config javac
[01:49] <theDave> menu.lst - that's it.  been a while since i've been on linus
[01:49] <theDave> linux
[01:49] <theDave> many thanks!
[01:49] <ardchoille> :)
[01:50] <geokok> I see a .tremulous file
[01:50] <geokok> no .loki though
[01:51] <geokok> seems many things I took out with synaptic are left here.......
[01:51] <skavenge> why dont any of my changes to login manager work in kde? regardless of what changed there the login screen is still the default kubuntu one .. how do i change it?
[01:51] <LjL> geokok: hm? that shouldn't happen.
[01:51] <LjL> geokok: an example?
[01:51] <geokok> like what?
[01:51] <geokok> what example u want?
[01:51] <LjL> geokok: an example of something you took out with synaptic but which is really still there
[01:52] <IIIEars> sam2 ifconfig <interface say eth0> /release   ??
[01:52] <geokok> .wine .lincity .wengo and more
[01:52] <brandon_> LjL: i think he means config files, but they wouldn't be removed without the --purge switch
[01:52] <piwi> LjL: okay mkv playback works but I cant switch between the languages and the subtitles. And its slower than playing in windows but I guess I will have to google about that to find the appropriate player etc
[01:52] <IIIEars> sam2 ifconfig <interface say eth0> /release   /renew
[01:52] <ardchoille> geokok: You mean in your home dir?
[01:52] <`daffodil> does anyone know how to get remote desktop to work in xubuntu?
[01:52] <piwi> LjL: thanks for your help
[01:52] <LjL> brandon_: oh, right
[01:52] <geokok> yes
[01:52] <geokok> thats where i was told to check
[01:52] <ardchoille> geokok: Those are your personal config files for those apps. They won't be removed when you remove the app.
[01:53] <geokok> well I can always delete these right?
[01:53] <ardchoille> yes
[01:53] <mister_roboto> ardchoille: you might as well tell him about the purge flag
[01:53] <geokok> great....any ideas for the game now?/ I mean cant i just delete the directories its in?
[01:53] <ardchoille> mister_roboto: I don't know how to use the purge flag with Synaptic
[01:53] <tvalladon> ok, anyone tell me how to get a minimal install? I dont want any unneeded services install, no X or gnome or any of that stuff.. I want to add it all myself
[01:54] <brandon_> geokok: how did you instlal it?
[01:54] <LjL> geokok: you can usually delete unused config files in your home dir, yeah
[01:54] <LjL> geokok: about the game, i don't know, i'd have to try installing it myself. did you have to use "sudo" when installing it?
[01:54] <gdb> ardchoille: It's the difference between "Remove" and "Completely Remove" in Synaptic.
[01:54] <geokok> its in usr/local/games/tremulous and in usr/local/bin I think.....it installed through a .run file...had a graphical installer that created something called a symlink
[01:54] <ardchoille> gdb: That still won't remove config files in your $HOME
[01:54] <mister_roboto> apt-get --help
[01:54] <gdb> ardchoille: There is no option to do that via any package manager.
[01:55] <geokok> yeah i think it was sudo sh./ $#@%.run
[01:55] <ardchoille> gdb: Yeah, thought so
[01:55] <piwi> btw, there are no video drivers to install like in windows? I mean up to date drivers for my i855GM crap built in video chipset to make divx and mkv playback smoother
[01:55] <tanlaan> im trying to install something that needs .NET, so i want to install mono, but it wont let me install it because i already have updated versions of mono-common and mono-jit which are its dependancies. but it will not allow me to install them be cause it gives me an error http://pastebin.ca/89222. What should i do? And can anyone help me understand how to install .msi on ubuntu?
[01:55] <LjL> skavenge: it's because Kubuntu has a KDM theme enabled by default, and the KControl settings only affect how KDM works when used *without* a theme. you can install the package "kcontrol-kdmtheme" to switch or disable themes
[01:56] <LjL> piwi: except for nvidia and ati cards, the drivers are the one that come with ubuntu
[01:56] <ardchoille> skavenge: Did you install Ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop?
[01:56] <piwi> LjL: okay thanks
[01:56] <theDave> tanlaan: i believe apt-get has some params that allow you to force the install despite dependencies
[01:57] <theDave> you can try that
[01:57] <baxter_kylie> Heya folks. Been working with my xorg.conf and noticed that it's essentially ignoring my modes. Anyone else ever run into this and / or have suggestions for a fix?
[01:57] <theDave> installing it now, so i can't man it myself for you
[01:57] <skavenge> ardchoille: yes
[01:57] <tanlaan> theDave: ok ill check that out
[01:57] <skavenge> ardchoille: is something from gnome preventing it from changing?
[01:57] <ardchoille> skavenge: Sounds like you're using gdm then.. changing a kde theme won't help
[01:57] <ardchoille> LjL: ^^
[01:58] <piwi> LjL: I'd like to do stg else now, I'd like that when I log into ubuntu ekiga, kopete and thunderbird are started as well and loaded in different workspaces... How to do that?
[01:58] <skavenge> ardchoille: when i install kubuntu-desktop i picked kdm as default, how do i check?
[01:58] <LjL> skavenge: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" if you want to set KDM as the default display manager instead of GDM
[01:58] <Miguelito> hello
[01:58] <LjL> skavenge: ok, then it's KDM you're using
[01:58] <ardchoille> skavenge: Rad what LjL just posted
[01:59] <skavenge> yeah ive got to be running kdm
[01:59] <LjL> skavenge: i still suggest installing kcontrol-kdmtheme
[01:59] <guest128> If I want to uninstall some default packages that I don't use (like totem player) but it says that I also have to unistall 'ubuntu-desktop', that seems kind of... important to have. How can I get around that?
[01:59] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop
[01:59] <ubotu> k/e/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[01:59] <Miguelito> I'm trying to fetch modproxy for apache from apt- but I can't find it, dunno if it's my repositories or what, I'm doing apt-cache search proxy|grep apache and nothing, I mean, only the proxy_html, but no modproxy, any help?
[01:59] <genceleci> hi all, anyone has an idea about an issue that sound card and wireless adapter becomes unusable
[01:59] <witless> i have a cd image (.bin) and contents file (.toc), and a bunch of encoded ogg tracks created from it.  how can i automatically name them using eg freedb?  jack's tagger no longer works
[01:59] <ardchoille> guest128: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package, it's safe to uninstall.. I did that a while ago and all is fine here
[01:59] <LjL> guest128: it's not really important to have. you only really need it when upgrading to a newer Ubuntu version
[01:59] <guest128> alright.
[01:59] <guest128> Thanks.
[02:00] <geokok> by the way is using apt-get and Synaptic exactly the same thing or switching between them can cause problems?
[02:00] <jrib> !info libapache2-mod-proxy-html
[02:00] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-proxy-html: Apache2 filter module for HTML links rewriting. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.4.3-2 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 116 kB
[02:00] <guest128> (And good job on the quick answers too!)
[02:00] <jrib> Miguelito: it seems to be in the universe repository
[02:00] <witless> !info jack
[02:00] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1-14 (dapper), package size 121 kB, installed size 572 kB
[02:00] <jrib> !universe > Miguelito
[02:00] <LjL> guest128: it's basically an empty package that just lists a ton of packages as dependencies, so that when you install it, all those packages will get installed. but unless you're using an APT frontend such as aptitude, uninstalling it will not uninstall anything else
[02:00] <baxter_kylie> geokok Basically they'r ethe same thing.
[02:00] <witless> is broken
[02:00] <ardchoille> geokok: Synaptic uses apt-get as its back end
[02:00] <skavenge> LjL: does kcontrol-kdmtheme deal with the login screen as well?
[02:00] <LjL> geokok: you should be alright mixing them. though the same thing cannot be said for aptitude
[02:01] <tvalladon> witless: last I heard freedb was out of service.. onless something changed...
[02:01] <LjL> skavenge: KDM *is* the login screen
[02:01] <Miguelito> jrib, I have the universe repository in my sources.list for my breezy... that's weird
[02:01] <geokok> thanks guys
[02:01] <genceleci> who knows smthing about "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[02:01] <jrib> Miguelito: ah I checked in dapper, let me make sure it's in breezy
[02:01] <tanlaan> if i use "apt-get -m install mono" will it ignore missing dependencies?
[02:01] <MrFeetio> hi, i wants to know how to go about making an icon set for gnome
[02:01] <mister_roboto> LjL: what's the story with aptitude?
[02:02] <Miguelito> jrib, can't update to dapper, dunno tried two times, bad mojo
[02:02] <LjL> mister_roboto: nothing bad, but aptitude's feature of automatically removing unused dependencies won't work with packages that were installed using apt-get or synaptic.
[02:02] <jrib> Miguelito: yes, it seems to be in breezy's universe as well: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/web/libapache2-mod-proxy-html  You can post your sources.list if you want us to look over it
[02:02] <LjL> mister_roboto: or do you refer to using aptitude to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[02:02] <Miguelito> jrib, ahh but that's mod-proxy-html, can't find mod-proxy alone, that's the weird part
[02:03] <skavenge> LjL: how do i run that after its installed?
[02:03] <mister_roboto> LjL: i always just use apt from the cmd line, never used it
[02:03] <mister_roboto> LjL: sometimes used adept in the past (i'm on kde)
[02:03] <LjL> skavenge: run "kcontrol", it will be under "system administrator"
[02:03] <geokok> it seems that me and that game are stuck together for life.......maybe I should just delete the directories its in and face the concequences....
[02:03] <LjL> mister_roboto: aptitude is a command line tool, too, unless you start it without parameters, and the syntax is very similar to apt-get's
[02:04] <abo> in gparted, what does it mean where there is a sealed lock icon next to a partition
[02:04] <mister_roboto> LjL: i was just wondering about the problems you referred to.
[02:04] <ardchoille> geokok: Did you install that game using wine?
[02:04] <fivre> hey, can you hotkey through xfce workspaces?
[02:04] <geokok> no no its open source game...I think (and this is probably VERY wrong) it uses a loki installer or something...
[02:05] <ardchoille> fivre: yes, ctrl+alt+right_arrow
[02:05] <jrib> Miguelito: oh I can't find something called just mod-proxy either.  I never used either, so I assumed it was the same.  But using 'a2enmod' my apache seems to already have mod_proxy available to me
[02:06] <shiv> when I click computer I see 7 floppy disk icons...
[02:06] <shiv> plz help
[02:07] <Miguelito> jrib, arggg you're right, I've httpd -l and assumed needed to reconfigure apache or download the module, thanks man!
[02:07] <J-_> how do i install a tar.bz2? dpkg -i <filename>?
[02:07] <jrib> Miguelito: np
[02:07] <fivre> shiv: what's inside them?
[02:08] <J-_> or do i need to unzip it first, THEN...?
[02:08] <jrib> J-_: tar.bz2 is usually source code that you need to compile.  What are you trying to install?
[02:08] <ardchoille> J-_: You unpack it and read the README and INSTALL files inside it
[02:08] <J-_> inkscape
[02:08] <J-_> okay
[02:08] <ardchoille> !info inkscape
[02:08] <ubotu> inkscape: vector-based drawing program. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.43-4ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 7201 kB, installed size 28184 kB
[02:08] <shiv> nothing
[02:08] <jrib> J-_: inkscape is in the repositories,, just use synaptic
[02:08] <shiv> Just 7 disk icons, I only have 1 drive
[02:08] <shiv> :(
[02:08] <J-_> it's not teh current version
[02:08] <genceleci> how can i refresh the sound card driver
[02:09] <meekish> how do i setup sshd in ubuntu? it's there by default in debian, but seems to missing in ubuntu.
[02:09] <jrib> meekish: install openssh-server
[02:09] <shiv> I installed 6.04 and upgraded to the latest
[02:09] <meekish> jrib: ok, and then how do i set up the init.d script for it?
[02:09] <jrib> J-_: if you don't specifically need something from the new version, it is a lot easier to use the one included in ubuntu
[02:09] <Madpilot> J-_, there are .deb files for Ubuntu available of Inkscape 0.44, I think - check the Inkscape website
[02:10] <mister_roboto> meekish: the debian install will set that up for you
[02:10] <jrib> meekish: apt sets that all up for you
[02:10] <bead> hi
[02:10] <geokok> ok....since the game stays where it is obviously I have a more theoretical question for u...What will EFI mean for linux+Ubuntu? Is it the end of incompatible hardware?
[02:10] <meekish> oh, sweet ;)
[02:10] <genceleci> jrib do you know how can i make my soundcard and wireless adapter working again they gone after update from 5 to 6
[02:11] <jrib> genceleci: sorry, I don't
[02:11] <bobbyd> hi
[02:11] <bead> i just installed network-manager-gnome via the console with sudo apt-get
[02:11] <genceleci> jrib thanks if i find a way i will tell here :)
[02:11] <bobbyd> has anyone here tried installing Ubuntu on a via epia board?
[02:11] <bead> and i dont see it under applications or system menu
[02:11] <jrib> !sound > genceleci
[02:11] <jrib> !wireless > genceleci
[02:11] <jrib> genceleci: that's all I know, gl :)
[02:11] <mister_roboto> genceleci: same thing happened to me. didn't get them back until i reinstalled from scratch. was like the update didn't clean up properly
[02:12] <tanlaan> umm can anyone help with apt-get, i need to know how to force it to install something and to ignore the dependencies
[02:12] <piwi> :'( playing divx and mkv now works but the image is crap, looks like 256 colors playback where the source is 32 bits
[02:12] <mister_roboto> genceleci: might try seeing if they work running from the live cd
[02:12] <jrib> tanlaan: why? dependencies aren't really optional things, they are dependencies so that what you are installing will work properly.  What are you trying to install?
[02:13] <squidgy> Hi.  I've just installed the nvidia driver, and it seems to work fine except that now none of my <ctrl>+<alt>+F[1-6]  console windows show up.  Any clues?
[02:13] <tanlaan> jrib: im trying to install mono, and the dependancies it wants are outdated, i HAVE the updated ones...but it gives me an error when installing
[02:13] <genceleci> I think it is the best way to backup apts cache and reinstall from scratch, with live cd of version 5 they are working
[02:13] <sharp_> yo
[02:14] <mister_roboto> genceleci: i mean do they work with the version 6 live cd?  running from the cd
[02:14] <jrib> tanlaan: pastebin the errors and your sources.list please
[02:14] <sharp_> i need to know how to add "/usr/lib/pkgconfig" to my PKG_CONFIG_PATH variable
[02:14] <J-_> so when i use ./configure to compile it, what do i do? change the directory to where the file is and type ./configure?
[02:15] <tanlaan> jrib: by sources do you mean what i have installed instead of what it wants?
[02:15] <genceleci> mister_roboto i do not have any 6 live cd so i cannot try at the moment maybe later
[02:15] <jrib> J-_: yes
[02:15] <J-_> thanks
[02:15] <mister_roboto> genceleci: i was pretty annoyed that upgrading broke them on my laptop. <shrug>
[02:15] <jrib> tanlaan: I mean the actual /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:15] <baxter_kylie> So.... anyone here have a little experience with xinerama?
[02:15] <sharp_> anyone know since i think its simple
[02:15] <tanlaan> jrib: ok will do
[02:15] <sharp_>  i need to know how to add "/usr/lib/pkgconfig" to my PKG_CONFIG_PATH variable
[02:15] <genceleci> mister_roboto is there anyway to clean drivers of soundcard and make ubuntu to recognize it again
[02:16] <dash`> how would I search through a folder and all its subfolders and delete a certain type of file?
[02:17] <mister_roboto> genceleci: if you know the package that the driver is in, you can 'sudo dpkg --reconfigure <pkg>'
[02:17] <roostishaw> anyone, im running fluxbox. what am i doing wrong with the following keybinding in the keys file? Mod4 :Exec gnome-terminal &
[02:17] <roostishaw> it dont load nothin
[02:17] <mister_roboto> genceleci: oops, i mean "dpkg-reconfigure"
[02:17] <jrib> dash`: you can probably set something up with 'find'
[02:17] <sharp_>  i need to know how to add "/usr/lib/pkgconfig" to my PKG_CONFIG_PATH variable
[02:17] <spades> roostishaw put that in your session file, not keybinding
[02:17] <spades> roostishaw err, forget that, remove the &
[02:18] <genceleci> mister_roboto: no way! but i am going to try to reconfigure gstreamer
[02:18] <roostishaw> spades, then reconfigure? then try it?
[02:18] <J-_> what does, 'checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool' mean?
[02:18] <athcsx> jrib: thanks for the info
[02:18] <alex-weej> anyone managed to get UT2004 working with Xgl/Compiz?
[02:18] <spades> roostishaw yea, or restart within it
[02:19] <tanlaan> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/89232
[02:19] <jrib> J-_: you are missing libxml-parser-perl
[02:19] <roostishaw> spades, i just did a restart... and Mod4 :Exec gnome-terminal in ~/.fluxbox/keys has no effect
[02:19] <hippie23> how do I get java working on a ppc? I been fighting with the damn thing for hours and still no results
[02:20] <hippie23> managed to get flashplayer to work though
[02:20] <J-_> jrib: do i install it with synaptic?
[02:20] <Ralith> Hullo. Having trouble installing from the livecd. It looks up at a different place in the file copying every time.
[02:20] <spades> roostishaw what are you using to get mod4/
[02:21] <roostishaw> spades, what am i using?
[02:21] <spades> like, is it alt or something?
[02:21] <jrib> J-_: yes
[02:21] <J-_> kk
[02:21] <roostishaw> spades, sorry, i dont know what you're asking
[02:21] <tanlaan> jrib: did you get the pastebin?
[02:21] <jrib> J-_: 'sudo apt-get build-dep inkscape' may help you
[02:22] <spades> roostishaw which button is your mod4? what are you pressing that youre trying to launch the terminal with
[02:22] <feld_> hey guys I need a hand. I was messing with Active Directory + ubuntu the other day and I decided to scrap the project. I just removed Winbind and now I can't login as any user.
[02:22] <jrib> tanlaan: yeah, what does 'apt-cache policy mono' say?
[02:22] <feld_> i remove all references to pam_winbind.so in /etc/pam.d's config files. any other ideas?
[02:22] <roostishaw> spades, oh. im trying either windoze key
[02:23] <tanlaan> mono:
[02:23] <tanlaan>   Installed: (none)
[02:23] <tanlaan>   Candidate: 1.1.8.3-1ubuntu2
[02:23] <tanlaan>   Version table:
[02:23] <tanlaan>      1.1.8.3-1ubuntu2 0
[02:23] <tanlaan>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[02:23] <tanlaan> oops sorry for the large post
[02:23] <jrib> tanlaan: k, in the future please use a pastebin.  Are you using breezy or dapper?
[02:23] <spades> roostishaw ok, open or create ~/.Xmodmap and put in 'keycode 115 = Super_L  and next line add mod4 = Super_L'  save and then xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[02:23] <andrivid> I just downloaded the cd files for the ia64 port...its only 27MB...is that really all that is needed?
[02:23] <tanlaan> jrib: dapper
[02:24] <genceleci> mister_roboto: do you know which driver manages "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)"
[02:24] <geokok> Hey i found a pic of the installer for another game but its exactly the same as in my case....http://offload1.icculus.org/loki_setup/loki_setup.jpg  maybe that helps you guys on how to un-install it
[02:24] <spades> roostishaw then do the same for keycode 116 and super_r to get both keys as mod4
[02:24] <jrib> tanlaan: your repositories are pointing to breezy.  This is an upgrade from breezy to dapper I assume?
[02:24] <mister_roboto> genceleci: no, sorry.
[02:24] <J-_> gah, now i'm missing something.... configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:24] <J-_> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:24] <tailsfan> Is there a program like alien for all sorts of archives and in a GUI
[02:24] <jrib> !compile > J-_
[02:25] <jrib> J-_: (you need build-essential)
[02:25] <bead> i just installed network-manager-gnome via the console with sudo apt-get and i dont see it anywhere in any of the menus. how can i run it?
[02:25] <spades> roostishaw like in http://3spades.net/.Xmodmap  just pay attention to mod4 and super l line
[02:25] <tanlaan> jrib: no i havent upgraded from breezy...reformatted the drive *used to have breezy* then freshly installed dapper
[02:25] <andrivid> why is the ia64 port instal cd only 27MB?
[02:25] <jrib> tanlaan: did you modify your sources.list after the fresh install?
[02:26] <casaosc15> hola
[02:26] <tanlaan> jrib: nope
[02:26] <tanlaan> jrib: wait
[02:26] <ardchoille> you had to
[02:26] <genceleci> mister_roboto: thanks for all, i will format the partition and install from scratch. :)
[02:26] <tanlaan> jrib: does going into the repositories section in synaptic count?
[02:26] <mnk0> hey sup
[02:26] <hippie23> I need to get java working on a ppc g3 running dapper, been trying to make it work and it just refuses to work, cand any1 help?
[02:26] <dash`> stoopid thing....
[02:26] <andrivid> hello?
[02:26] <mnk0> if i install amd64 vesrion, does that mean i cant use i386 packages?
[02:26] <mister_roboto> genceleci: good luck :)
[02:27] <hippie23> ima bout ready to shoot the darn thing
[02:27] <mnk0> also, anyone familiar with installing, xgl ?
[02:27] <genceleci> is version 6 has builtin WPA protocol?
[02:27] <jrib> tanlaan: yes.  If you did a fresh dapper install then I believe you can just fix your sources.list by replacing it with a dapper one
[02:27] <jrib> !easysource > tanlaan
[02:27] <picket> try #XGL
[02:27] <genceleci> has verison 6 builtin WPA?
[02:28] <jrib> tanlaan: are you comfortable with the procedure?
[02:28] <tailsfan> Is there?
[02:28] <harisund> I am just wondering, will Dapper 'break' in anyway if I enable a root account? I know there is sudo and all that, but I am just too familiar with Fedora to let it go .. besides, for a home/casual user it may be ok, but when you have tons of system administration to do preceding everything with a sudo is becoming a hassle...
[02:28] <tanlaan> jrib: ill check it out, one sec
[02:29] <tailsfan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18124 can anyone help me with that please?
[02:29] <jrib> harisund: afaik, you should be ok (but note that you can use 'sudo -i' to do the equivalent of su -
[02:29] <andrivid> tanlaan do u know about the ia64 port of ubuntu?
[02:29] <tanlaan> andrivid: no i dont
[02:29] <andrivid> hmm
[02:29] <harisund> jrib .. ok .. just wanted a confirmation .. I normally use sudo -s if I want a mini shell login into the root user, and I have added myself in the sudoers file to not ask password at any point.. but still I would rather have root than anything else :)
[02:29] <andrivid> the cd is only 27MB..i dont see how its that small
[02:30] <tanlaan> jrib: whats the 2 letter code of your country?
[02:30] <gizmatix> unsure
[02:30] <roostishaw> spades, so ill just copy the first 4 lines of that to my .Xmodmap file, right?
[02:30] <LjL> harisund: in Breezy enabing root could cause problems. i'm not sure whether it still can in dapper. i don't see a reason for enabling root, given it's just a matter of typing "sudo -i" rather than "su"
[02:30] <jrib> tanlaan: mine is 'us' for United States
[02:31] <Seveas> LjL, that bug is fixed in breezy too
[02:31] <tanlaan> jrib: ok wanted to make sure
[02:31] <Seveas> (and afaik in hoary too, but I'm not sure)
[02:31] <five_laptop> anyone have a USB external HDD enclosure hooked to their linux box?
[02:31] <spades> roostishaw well the one i used made right winkey into control since its for my laptop, but just copy super_L and make it super_R code 116 and addmod4 on it
[02:31] <spades> roostishaw them xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[02:31] <harisund> LjL do you have any idea as to what sort of problems it causes?
[02:31] <LjL> Seveas: ok, didn't know, though still...
[02:32] <LjL> harisund: it used to lock you out of some control panel applets (both in Gnome and KDE i think), chiefly
[02:32] <harisund> oh .. ok.. I use XFCE :) ..
[02:32] <roostishaw> spades, sorry, i lost my connection...
[02:32] <wall0159> Hi Team. Anyone have experience with a Canon 30D in Dapper? Neither Gnome volume manager or picassa seem to work...
[02:32] <roostishaw> spades, where were we?
[02:32] <AlinuxOS> with XFCE I have no AT or DIESIS charachter on my lauout
[02:32] <AlinuxOS> I don't know why :(
[02:32] <AlinuxOS> harisund, maybe you know why ?
[02:33] <siio> can someone tell me if desktop supports dual procs with out a recomplie?
[02:33] <gdb> siio: yes
[02:33] <harisund> AlinuxOS forgive me for my ignorance, but what are they>
[02:33] <gdb> siio: sudo aptitude install linux-image-686
[02:33] <LjL> harisund: anyway my point of view is, ubuntu is almost based on the entire idea of sudo, and while unlocking root might work fine, i see it a bit like asking for trouble, also considering that you can do with sudo anything that you can do with root --- and just as easily, afaics
[02:33] <spades> roostishaw just do this:  http://www.3spades.net/.Xmodmap2
[02:33] <gdb> siio: then reboot
[02:33] <gnomefreak> siio: yes install the -smp kernel
[02:33] <siio> really that easy?
[02:33] <AlinuxOS> @ <----- AT charachter.
[02:33] <gnomefreak> gdb: isnt the smp duel core?
[02:33] <roostishaw> spades, copy the whole thing?
[02:33] <gdb> siio: yes, it's that easy ;-)  the 686 image includes SMP
[02:34] <gnomefreak> AH
[02:34] <gdb> gnomefreak: dual core, smp, and HT
[02:34] <spades> roostishaw yes, save it as ~/.Xmodmap and then run 'xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[02:34] <gdb> gnomefreak: they all look the same to the OS
[02:34] <gnomefreak> ok didnt know 686 included all that
[02:34] <gdb> :-)
[02:34] <harisund> LjL thanks for your advice.. but I think I am going to go ahead and ask for that trouble :D ..
[02:34] <Bizzeh> i have an amd64 x2 4200 and run the amd64 version of ubuntu, it picks up both procs just fine
[02:34] <ardchoille> harisund: You behind a router?
[02:35] <harisund> ardchoille yes, why?
[02:35] <ardchoille> harisund: Just curious.. it makes it harder to break in
[02:35] <tanlaan> jrib: ok i switched out the sources.list
[02:35] <roostishaw> spades, ok, now what?
[02:35] <harisund> arhchoille, break into what?
[02:35] <ardchoille> harisund: your computer
[02:35] <spades> roostishaw if it loaded, try the button and see if gterm pops up
[02:36] <harisund> ardchoille :D
[02:36] <jpjacobs> I've got some hardware question... i've got a CPU that needs 2.4V but the motherboard only offers 2.2 or 2.5... what's best to choose?
[02:36] <Bizzeh> jpjacobs: "auto"
[02:36] <alvaro> hi im going to install ubuntu dapper
[02:36] <ardchoille> harisund: When a malicious person comes to a box, he knows there is a root account. but he can't brute force a root account if it is disabled. He can't brute force user accounts unbless he knows the usernames. Having a disabled root account adds to the security of the box.
[02:36] <alvaro> i was wondering what button do u press to boot from cd when i turn on the pC?
[02:36] <mnk0> hm
[02:36] <mnk0> anyone use wine?
[02:37] <harisund> oh wow ardchoille.. that's neat... that thought never occured to my mind at all..
[02:37] <ardchoille> harisund: ;)
[02:37] <mnk0> how do u hide jions and shit from irssi ?
[02:37] <gdb> alvaro: You'll either need to configure your BIOS to boot from CD first, or if your PC has a menu option that you can call up interactively during boot to select CD.  There's no standard.
[02:37] <harisund> though I am guessing Ubuntu is so popular these days that a cracker would by default expect not to have a root account ..
[02:37] <jpjacobs> Bizzeh, well, that's no option here, it's still a jumpered motherboard...
[02:37] <ardchoille> harisund: enabling the root account opens it to brute force attacks
[02:38] <meekish> what would be the command to apt-get php-cgi with gd, curl, and xml support?
[02:38] <harisund> mnk0 type /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[02:38] <alvaro> i have ubuntu 5.10 right now though
[02:38] <harisund> mnk0 I think that should work ..
[02:38] <mnk0> harisund: thx
[02:38] <harisund> Did they work mnk0 ??
[02:38] <mnk0> yeah
[02:38] <mnk0> how about for all channels ?
[02:39] <roostishaw> spades, no luck...
[02:39] <spades> roostishaw do an 'xmodmap -v ~/.Xmodmap' and see if it errors
[02:39] <J-_> damn thing won't 'make' whatever that means.. damn thing
[02:39] <harisund> mnk0 You can type that for each channel you are in .. what I do is write a note in my ~/.irssi/config file
[02:39] <ardchoille> J-_: did you sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[02:39] <J-_> yeah
[02:40] <mnk0> harisund: u have to type for each chan?
[02:40] <mnk0> not like set it .. ?
[02:40] <LjL> J-_: excuse me, but my network went down while you were discussing the inkscape thing... what's the reason you're compiling it from source?
[02:40] <harisund> maybe try going to window 1 and type /ignore ALL QUITS PARTS NICKS JOINS
[02:40] <roostishaw> spades, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18125
[02:40] <harisund> I am guessing there is a ALL command in irssi ... not really sure.
[02:40] <mnk0> ohh k
[02:40] <J-_> no prob dude, just want to install the newer version onto my machine, i might just have to settle wit hthe version in teh repo's
[02:41] <spades> roostishaw you did the one i was using for my laptop, wipe that one and use http://www.3spades.net/.Xmodmap2
[02:42] <LjL> J-_: oh, i see
[02:42] <LjL> J-_: what kind of problems are you having?
[02:43] <J-_> i don't even know at this point, i'm just going to install the version in the repo.
[02:44] <roostishaw> spades, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18126
[02:44] <spades> roostishaw looks good, did you try and see if it worked? that technically should have done it
[02:45] <roostishaw> spades, well, i did a reconfigure... and then tried both win keys... no luck  :(
[02:46] <spades> roostishaw not sure there, try in #fluxbox maybe the keys setup isnt right
[02:46] <reb42> hey
[02:46] <reb42> i have a simple python problem
[02:46] <wm0t> does anyone know of a program to measured transfered data that doesnt require snmp?
[02:47] <roostishaw> spades, "try in #fluxbox" lol, no thanks
[02:47] <reb42> i create a dictionary like      dict = {'one':1, 'two':2}
[02:48] <reb42> then i iterate over it       for key in dict:                      print key
[02:48] <reb42> it prints the keys in reverse order ie three, two, one
[02:49] <Moosebuntu> Does anyone know if there is a way to tile windows horizontally or vertically on the screen?
[02:50] <ardchoille> Moosebuntu: that would be the job of the window manager. You in gnome?
[02:50] <Moosebuntu> yep
[02:50] <Moosebuntu> Where is this manager?
[02:51] <ardchoille> Moosebuntu: the indow manager in gnome is Metacity, unless you changed it. Open gconf-editor and have a search for metacity
[02:51] <laozi> Question:  Are there any word processors for the console?  I know that there's Oleo for spreadsheets but I'm looking for a console word processor (not vim or emacs or pico/nano.)
[02:52] <Moosebuntu> Open via terminal?
[02:52] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i start firestarter on fluxbox startup, and have its icon in the system tray?
[02:52] <Moosebuntu> bash: gconf: command not found
[02:52] <Moosebuntu> :/
[02:53] <ardchoille> Moosebuntu: gconf-editor
[02:53] <sproingie> a console word processor?  like wysiwig on a console?
[02:54] <laozi> sproingie, Well, not EXACTLY wysiwyg, but Word Perfect used to be text based and it was pretty good at formatting.  Just wondering if there was a project like that around, haven't seen it.
[02:54] <VR_> im trying to rip a cd using grip to ogg, but it won't work. i have vorbis-tools installed. can anyone help?
[02:54] <sproingie> emacs has some pretty good tex modes
[02:54] <Sbisolo> Hi all, who can help me with an apt-get problem?
[02:54] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i start firestarter on fluxbox startup, and have its icon in the system tray?
[02:55] <roostishaw> Sbisolo, what is it?
[02:55] <Moosebuntu> ardchoille> I'm searching for this gconf -editor
[02:55] <Sbisolo> apt-get resolves sources with a 1.0.0.0
[02:55] <roostishaw> Moosebuntu, gconf-editor
[02:55] <jrib> Moosebuntu: there is no space
[02:55] <laozi> I'm a vim guy, I'm not going to mess with ecraps.
[02:56] <Moosebuntu> ah, I found it.  It's called Configuration Editor
[02:56] <roostishaw> ... gconf-editor
[02:56] <Moosebuntu> ... searching for metacity
[02:56] <ardchoille> Moosebuntu: it's gconf-editor  (no space) and I don't see anything about what you wanted.
[02:56] <roostishaw> ...
[02:56] <roostishaw> :D
[02:56] <gnomefreak> please take the editor convo to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:56] <Zambezi> Is it spelled dependice? (I guess not).
[02:56] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i start firestarter on fluxbox startup, and have its icon in the system tray?
[02:56] <Sbisolo> ipv6 disabled
[02:57] <Moosebuntu> ardchoille> so no option to tile you mean? OK
[02:57] <sproingie> laozi: vi has okay tex modes.  not as good.  you're out of luck.
[02:57] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: gksudo firestarter  and prolly not about the icon
[02:57] <gnomefreak> sproingie: i asked it to be moved to -offtopic
[02:57] <sproingie> gnomefreak: sorry, didn't see
[02:58] <Moosebuntu> maximize_horizontally
[02:58] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: Oh, I thought you meant me
[02:58] <Moosebuntu> <no value>
[02:58] <Moosebuntu> that could be it
[02:58] <gnomefreak> i meant the convo
[02:58] <theDan> can anyone recommend a good wireless card to use with ubuntu?  i'm wary of taking the advice of a site, since getting a card and not having the drivers work, would, well, suck.
[02:58] <Moosebuntu> "This keybinding resizes a window to fill available horizontal space. The format looks like "<Control>a" or "<Shift><Alt>F1". The parser is fairly liberal and allows lower or upper case, and also abbreviations such as "<Ctl>" and "<Ctrl>". If you set the option to the special string "disabled", then there will be no keybinding for this action. "
[02:58] <sproingie> anyone know how i would diagnose the problem where the run dialog simply doesn't work from any keyboard shortcut anymore?
[02:58] <UKMatt> what is nano in command prompt?
[02:58] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, ill try it... thanks!
[02:58] <Kyral> nano
[02:59] <Kyral> :P
[02:59] <sproingie> if i put a button on the panel for the run dialog, it works fine
[02:59] <sproingie> but no matter what keyboard shortcut i use, it never works
[02:59] <Kyral> or even "nano <file you want to edit>"
[02:59] <sproingie> i don't even know how to begin diagnosing it, because apparently it's not a command, but some control sent to the panel
[02:59] <sproingie> whether it's corba or dbus or what, i don't know
[03:00] <Sbisolo> no one with similar problem?
[03:00] <tanlaan> on linux how might one go about running a .msi file?
[03:00] <Moosebuntu> ardchoille> If I make changes to the key mappings, are they automatically saved?  I see no save option.
[03:00] <tanlaan> or can you not run it on linux...
[03:00] <sproingie> tanlaan: with wine
[03:01] <tanlaan> sproingi: fuck...i dont wanna install wine lol
[03:01] <sproingie> tanlaan: .msi stands for *microsoft* installer
[03:01] <Moosebuntu> It works! :)
[03:01] <sproingie> tanlaan: and please watch the language
[03:01] <tanlaan> sproingie: sorry, i will from now on :D
[03:01] <Moosebuntu> It's a bit different than MS windows, but it ultimately functions the same.
[03:01] <UKMatt> whats a gpg key
[03:01] <ardchoille> Moosebuntu: The setting changes in gconf-editor are immediate.
[03:02] <Kyral> !gpg
[03:02] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[03:02] <Kyral> In a Nutshell, its your Digital Signature
[03:02] <sproingie> UKMatt: gnu privacy guard.  it's a lot like a certificate.
[03:02] <Bizzeh> In a Nutshell, its a FOSS ripoff of pgp
[03:02] <Kyral> ie, if I send you something signed with my key (which ALL emails from me are, so if something comes from me without it, its NOT ME!!)
[03:02] <Moosebuntu> ardchoille> fyi: /apps/metacity/window_keybindings/maximize_vertically and /apps/metacity/window_keybindings/maximize_horizontally.  Works beautifully.
[03:02] <UKMatt> sproingie, i'm trying to install something and told me to "type these 2 lines to add the gpg keys", where do i do that
[03:03] <Kyral> then you can be pretty damn sure I sent it
[03:03] <Moosebuntu> ardchoille> Your help is much appreciated. :)
[03:03] <tanlaan> is there a version of wine for ppc?
[03:03] <sproingie> even phil zimmerman doesn't sign everything he sends
[03:03] <ardchoille> Moosebuntu: It does? Ok, thank you for that information :)
[03:03] <ardchoille> Moosebuntu: You're welcome :)
[03:03] <dadgumit> need a quick fix hopefully, anyone ever had xorg lock up when you have dual procs enabled?
[03:03] <Kyral> sproingie: its auto with my mail client :P
[03:03] <sproingie> UKMatt: you can just type those two lines
[03:03] <dadgumit> I am also seeing two letters when I hit the key once
[03:03] <Kyral> sproingie: also makes sure that any "You spammed me!" claims are quickly dispelled :P
[03:03] <Moosebuntu> ardchoille> Will the config editor let you know if you entered a duplicate binding?
[03:03] <jrib> UKMatt: applications > accessories > terminal is where you type them probably
[03:04] <UKMatt> jrib, ya that was it ty
[03:04] <sproingie> Kyral: i'm sure phil's is too.  he has some broader point to make about it, which escapes me.  a lot of it boils down to false positives when gateways mangle his messages
[03:04] <ardchoille> Moosebuntu: That's an interesting question.. I have never done that so I don't know.
[03:04] <Kyral> sproingie: lol
[03:04] <Moosebuntu> ok, np.  I'll take my chances and look around for a dup.
[03:04] <dadgumit> no help?
[03:04] <Kyral> sproingie: primary reason I got my key was because I needed it to upload packages :D
[03:05] <sproingie> Kyral: that's probably a better thing to have ubiquitous signing on than casual email communications
[03:05] <Dial_tone> man, I've been futzing with gtkpod all afternoon. this thing is not ready for primetime.
[03:05] <sproingie> Kyral: and there's no question about gateways mangling the content
[03:05] <Kyral> huh mangling?
[03:05] <AlinuxOS> hello I need that | export CVSROOT=":pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome"   | command execute when X starts, how can I do it ?
[03:05] <Kyral> people say it just shows up as an attachment :P
[03:05] <sproingie> Kyral: ever see what lotus notes does to email?
[03:06] <Kyral> sproingie: my college uses Notes
[03:06] <Kyral> tis why I POP to my mail account :P
[03:06] <sproingie> Kyral: it's a horror, isn't it?
[03:06] <skavenge> whats the best gui id3 tag editor?
[03:06] <Kyral> aside that I hate webmail interfaces
[03:06] <sproingie> Kyral: anyway, we're pretty offtopic right now
[03:06] <Kyral> I don't care lol
[03:06] <Whil> I'm wondering about xgl and qt4
[03:06] <Kyral> !xgl
[03:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:07] <sproingie> xgl, yummy eye candy.  too bad compiz isn't quite as stable as xgl
[03:07] <Whil> thank you
[03:07] <AlvaroX> hi everyone, i have my HD splited in half, one for Linux and one for Win, i just got rid of win and formated to ext3, the problem is that when i mount the new ext3 partition i cant write on it, how can i mount it and allow read/write for users? since i can only write as root...
[03:08] <Moosebuntu> It's amazing how much memory Ubuntu does NOT use in contrast with Windows XP/2000.
[03:08] <spades> AlvaroX chown it to your user
[03:08] <coder_> can someone please help me enable dma on my dvd-rw?
[03:08] <Moosebuntu> I'm running with 256MB ram and I'm only using a bit over half.
[03:08] <UKMatt> for anyone knew to Ubuntu from windows, SLED menu for Ubuntu is pretty cool, and in repo
[03:08] <dr_willis> hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb (or whatever) :)
[03:09] <coder_> dr_willis:  I've tried that
[03:09] <dr_willis> actually ya need a sudo in front of it. :P
[03:09] <dr_willis> but there is a hdparm config file somewhere in /etc/ to do it  properly
[03:09] <AlvaroX> spades, can u guide me through it, i think its obvious that im a total newbie ... :p
[03:09] <coder_> ive tried both
[03:09] <spades> AlvaroX do a 'sudo chown user:user /path -R'
[03:10] <ardchoille> coder_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[03:10] <coder_>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[03:10] <sproingie> Moosebuntu: i dont find the memory consumption much different myself.  it's definitely snappier than windows
[03:10] <meekish> when apt-get'ing the rails package, it tries to install PostGresQL bindings, how do I tell apt-get not to install those?
[03:10] <tanlaan> can anyone point me in the direction of a good wine tutorial *mostly for installation*
[03:11] <gnomefreak> !wine
[03:11] <dr_willis> coder_,  could be some odditiy in the chipset. this is a ide drive? or sata?
[03:11] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:11] <coder_> ide, yes
[03:11] <coder_> nvidia chipset
[03:11] <sproingie> meekish if it's required, you dont really have too much choice.  if it's recommended, you could just remove the bindings after the fact
[03:11] <sproingie> meekish: rails installs so easily from gems that it's not much point using the .deb
[03:12] <Moosebuntu> sproingie> I'm surprised you don't find it different.  Maybe I'm missing something.  What does Ubuntu require as minimal for ram?
[03:12] <meekish> sproingle: on the rails package page, it says libpgsql-ruby1.8 OR libmysql-ruby1.8. Is there a switch in the apt-get install to change it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/rails
[03:12] <z2> how do I restart ubuntu from the command line ?
[03:12] <meekish> I would rather install mysql
[03:13] <z2> mysql sucks go with postgresql
[03:13] <meekish> DHH wouldn't agree with you on that one :)
[03:13] <sproingie> Moosebuntu: i'm currently using 316 megs and all i'm running is xchat.  i don't really care tho, since performance is still quite nice
[03:13] <z2> well DHH must be a fucking moron then
[03:13] <meekish> haha, he *is* the creator of Rails
[03:14] <sproingie> meekish: if you want any amount of customization, i would just install it from gems
[03:14] <coder_> i dont even know which device my cdrom drive is actually
[03:14] <dr_willis> ;0
[03:14] <meekish> ok, is the .deb package to acquire gems?
[03:14] <linuxgoober> When I try to compile kdevelop i get checking for XX... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your isntallation and add the correct paths! any ideas whats wrong?
[03:14] <Moosebuntu> sproingie> Have you looked at the consumption using the system monitor app?
[03:14] <dr_willis> coder_,  check dmesg output.
[03:14] <Moosebuntu> j/c
[03:14] <coder_> i did
[03:14] <coder_> hda: media error (bad sector)
[03:14] <dr_willis> coder_,  just to clarify - this is a IDE cdrom drive?
[03:14] <sproingie> this is where i like bsd ports -- it picks up cpan stuff automatically
[03:14] <coder_> yes, it is
[03:15] <sproingie> Moosebuntu: that's what i'm looking at, yes
[03:15] <dr_willis> coder_,  hda is the cdrom drive?
[03:15] <coder_> probably.  since there is no other ide drives
[03:15] <coder_> ya
[03:15] <dr_willis> coder_,  ya running just the live cd eh?
[03:15] <coder_> no
[03:15] <ardchoille> coder_: Where is your Ubuntu install?
[03:15] <ardchoille> oh, liveCD
[03:16] <coder_> NO
[03:16] <coder_> not livecd
[03:16] <coder_> /dev/sda1
[03:16] <coder_> sata drive
[03:16] <ardchoille> ok, then can you explain why you only have one IDE drive and it is a CD rom?
[03:16] <dr_willis> :)
[03:16] <ardchoille> oh, ok.. never thought of sata
[03:16] <sproingie> ardchoille: sata
[03:16] <coder_> =)
[03:16] <sproingie> loses
[03:16] <ardchoille> Yeah, my bad.
[03:16] <dr_willis> i just use my sata drives as /home/ and stuff :P got an ide drive i boot/install to. :)
[03:17] <coder_> dr_willis: get a sataII drive to boot from.  its life changing stuff
[03:17] <coder_> ncq is amazing
[03:18] <dr_willis> I dont have a sata controller the can handle sata2 yet. :P (i think)
[03:18] <coder_> i see
[03:18] <dr_willis> still extending this live of this older pc at the moment.
[03:18] <dr_willis> longer it lasts - the bigger a box i get shen i do upgrade. :)
[03:18] <coder_> ya, i just decided to upgrade.
[03:18] <ardchoille> dr_willis: That's pretty smart :)
[03:19] <dr_willis> that AMD new stuf (am2?) or whatever is now out and gainign speed. :P better drives... faster ram...
[03:19] <dr_willis> its the next big 'jump
[03:19] <dr_willis> its the next big 'jump' in pc porformace it seems.
[03:19] <coder_> dr_willis: thats what I got
[03:19] <dr_willis> such a big jump that the parts from most of my current machines - wont even be useable in a new box. :)
[03:19] <coder_> x2 4200+ am2, 2gb ddr800  =)
[03:20] <sproingie> naw, conroe is supposed to be the next big jump
[03:20] <coder_> ddr800 is a pretty big jump
[03:20] <sproingie> pretty expensive too
[03:20] <dr_willis> heck. the $140 Semperon systems i see in bargin stores are faster thien this box. :)
[03:20] <coder_> ya, i got 2gb for 250
[03:20] <cjones> could someone point me to the right room for cadega
[03:20] <coder_> cedega
[03:21] <ardchoille>  #cedega ?
[03:21] <cjones> yeah that
[03:21] <cjones> thanks
[03:21] <ardchoille> :)
[03:21] <dr_willis> Cedega has good forums.
[03:21] <AlvaroX> hi everyone, i have my HD splited in half, one for Linux and one for Win, i just got rid of win and formated to ext3, the problem is that when i mount the new ext3 partition i cant write on it, how can i mount it and allow read/write for users? since i can only write as root...
[03:21] <dr_willis> not sure about how tood the chat room is
[03:21] <AlvaroX> i chowned the partition
[03:21] <AlvaroX> and
[03:21] <AlvaroX> nothing
[03:21] <dr_willis> AlvaroX,  make a dir  for the users and chown the dir.
[03:21] <AlvaroX> maybe im doing smth wrong..
[03:21] <dr_willis> not the drive.
[03:21] <sproingie> i keep thinking about getting a gumstix and writing stuff for it in a small language
[03:21] <dr_willis> AlvaroX,  thats the 'easy' way i found. :P
[03:21] <AlvaroX> ohh ok
[03:22] <AlvaroX> thanks, will try that
[03:22] <dr_willis> AlvaroX,  setting the whole mounted dir to be owned by a user.. is somthing i never did quite figure out
[03:22] <dr_willis> :)
[03:22] <sproingie> but i have no idea what i'd write.  am i truly a geek if i'm not interested in hacking something?
[03:22] <dr_willis> sproingie,  if you liked Feta Cheese and GYros - would you be Truely Greek? :)
[03:22] <dr_willis> Hmm.. I like Gyros.
[03:22] <AlvaroX> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/disk2/bosta': Read-only file system
[03:23] <coder_> does DMA exist on sata drives?
[03:23] <Hotwheelz> Does anyone know how to contact the team that looks after the repositry that holds Mythtv packages in dapper?
[03:23] <sproingie> coder_: don't believe so.  sata basically looks like scsi to linux
[03:23] <geokok> quick question
[03:23] <coder_> right.  thanks sproingie
[03:24] <geokok> does the locate command search the whoel filesystem?
[03:24] <geokok> whole
[03:24] <AlvaroX> i cannot make the F.... Dir...
[03:24] <sproingie> Hotwheelz: there should be contact addresses in the package info if you browse the package listing
[03:24] <coder_> search an index
[03:24] <cjones> anybody in hear play video games useing wine ?
[03:24] <Hotwheelz> if i run a packages search shows up 0.18 packages latest build is 0.19
[03:24] <kbrooks> !latest
[03:24] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:24] <ardchoille> geokok: the locate command searches the slocate database, that database is created with updatedb.
[03:25] <kbrooks> Hotwheelz: See above
[03:25] <ardchoille> geokok: And, yes, I believe updatedb takes into account the entire file system.
[03:26] <geokok> hmm..yeah...a bit more simplified??I mean if it doesnt find something its not in the pc right?
[03:26] <sproingie> no it means it's not in the index
[03:26] <ardchoille> geokok: I would say that is correct.
[03:26] <geokok> ok great!!i believe i solved my earlier problem with the game then!!!
[03:26] <geokok> i love linux!!!
[03:27] <Marsmensch> anyone can help me with vdr-streamdev?
[03:27] <ardchoille> geokok: if you just created a file, no.. locate won't see it until you do sudo updatedb, then locate will see it
[03:27] <geokok> what r the chances of something not being in the index?
[03:27] <sproingie> geokok: if you added it recently, pretty good.  it's only updated once a day
[03:27] <ardchoille> geokok: the index is updated when you run sudo updatedb
[03:27] <geokok> ok so i ll run that command ..then it ll have everything right?
[03:28] <geokok> ok thanks
[03:28] <sproingie> geokok: if you want something that's updated all the time, sudo apt-get install beagle
[03:28] <chemjeff> Hello
[03:28] <geokok> already got beagle.Is great
[03:28] <ardchoille> beagle is pretty cool :D
[03:28] <sproingie> beagle's awesome with the deskbar
[03:28] <chemjeff> I'm having a bit of difficulty installing ubuntu on my desktop, can anyone offer a hand?
[03:28] <geokok> just have to use the console to get rid of a crappy game
[03:28] <geokok> so locate is more handy
[03:29] <mikeymike-linux> how do i get the notification of updates back on my gnome bar
[03:29] <sproingie> i say again, why is an awesome thing like the deskbar not put on the panel in the default install?
[03:29] <sproingie> i use it for everything now, even to launch apps (especially since alt-f2 broke mysteriously on me)
[03:29] <Bizzeh> because not everyone thinks its awesum
[03:30] <geokok> ....it is though
[03:30] <cjones> .16
[03:30] <dr_willis> I perfer the console! :) like a real geek!
[03:30] <sproingie> Bizzeh: those people need their awsometer adjusted
[03:30] <mikeymike-linux> how do i get the notification of ubuntu updates back on my gnome bar i erased it
[03:30] <unstablesob> it would be 'awesomer' if it didn't have to take up space on the panel
[03:30] <chemjeff> Hello?
[03:30] <sproingie> unstablesob: you can make it take up the space of just one button
[03:31] <ardchoille> mikeymike-linux: Sounds like you might have deleted your notification area panel applet. If so, you can right-click the panel and add it back.
[03:31] <mikeymike-linux> is that notification area?
[03:31] <coder_> what a world of difference a clean dvd makes when trying to copy files from it =)
[03:31] <mikeymike-linux> i put that on there again but there's nothing there
[03:32] <mikeymike-linux> how can i make it show me something :D any updates lately?
[03:32] <chemjeff> I'm able to install ubuntu and it works almost until the end.  At the very end, when I finally login, it accepts my login and then it just hangs.  Any thoughts?
[03:32] <geokok> well it seems that locate didnt need any updates after all. It could see the files when I created them a while ago and could see that they were gone right after I deleted them....if u say its only updated once a day then how do u explain that?
[03:32] <mikeymike-linux> haha
[03:32] <mikeymike-linux> woops wrong window
[03:32] <ardchoille> mikeymike-linux: Open Synaptic and click the update icon (the two arrows)
[03:32] <mikeymike-linux> ardchoille, thanks
[03:32] <dr_willis> updatedb is normally ran as a cron job once a day
[03:33] <ardchoille> mikeymike-linux: You're welcome :)
[03:33] <mikeymike-linux> Android, thats the 'reload' icon
[03:33] <mikeymike-linux> green arrows?
[03:33] <ardchoille> Yeah, I meant reload icon
[03:33] <mikeymike-linux> oh ok i guess there hasn't been any updates today?
[03:34] <mikeymike-linux> i haven't gotten any notification to install them
[03:34] <mister_roboto>  chemjeff: can you log in without X?
[03:34] <ardchoille> I haven't seen any updates today
[03:34] <geokok> only automatix was updated today
[03:34] <mikeymike-linux> ardchoille, thanks
[03:34] <mikeymike-linux> geokok, ah okay
[03:35] <geokok> I found a solution to my game uninstall problem. Required a program called loki installer (seems many games use it) to be installed first. Think I should post it?
[03:35] <ardchoille> Man, this is the most awesome distro on the planet. I love it :)
[03:36] <geokok> it is!!!
[03:36] <mcquaid> is there any gui available for setting up pppoe?
[03:36] <cjones> how do you force a update for a programe in term.
[03:36] <cjones> ?
[03:36] <mcquaid> i understand how to use pppoeconf but I wanted to know for some friends that I will be giving the live cd to
[03:36] <ardchoille> cjones: Explain more please
[03:37] <sproingie> how do i get the ubuntu bootsplash back after installing kubuntu-desktop?
[03:37] <cjones> ardchoille  i have wine ver .16 want newer ver
[03:37] <kholerabbi> I want to be able to easily mount and unmount iso files.. anyone know a good way? perhaps a script for nautilus?
[03:37] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: yes
[03:37] <bouncer44> g'day .......
[03:38] <ardchoille> cjones: If the newer ver isn't in the repos, you won't be able to update it via the repos.
[03:38] <kholerabbi> wine 0.9.17 is the newest
[03:38] <bouncer44> can anyone tell me what package "make" is in ?
[03:38] <carthik> After adding a user to a group, how do I make the change effective without logging out and logging in again?
[03:38] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: then i would suggest having a look at /var/log/messages to see what kind of errors you were getting trying to log on with X
[03:38] <carthik> bouncer44, use dpkg -S make
[03:38] <cjones> ardchoille  so i reistall it ?
[03:38] <ardchoille> kholerabbi: nautilus scripts are way cool.. and I"m sure there's a script for that.. if not, you can write your own
[03:38] <carthik> bouncer44, or install apt-file to search for packages that files belong to
[03:38] <kholerabbi> ardchoille: true thanks
[03:39] <ader10> Hello everybody. I am trying to install ubuntu version 6.06 LTS for my 64-bit pc and everything goes alright until I edit partitions or until it actually starts copying files. I would be grateful for any help given.
[03:39] <ardchoille> cjones: if you re-install it via the repos, you're just going to end up with the same ver you have now
[03:39] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: ok i will look, but i have to reboot, as the whole system locks up when i try to login with X
[03:39] <carthik> ader10, what's the error?
[03:39] <cjones> ardchoille  so build it form source
[03:39] <sproingie> carthik: any new processes that user launches should contain that group membership.  the existing processes are kind of out of luck afaik
[03:39] <cjones> ?
[03:39] <bouncer44> carthik: I'm trying to install nvidia driver ...... is looking for make in my path
[03:39] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: That is a great nick BTW
[03:39] <ader10> It just freezes without any notice. The x server won't even respond.
[03:39] <ader10> I can't move the mouse either.
[03:40] <ardchoille> khaije1: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/  <-- some great scripts there.
[03:40] <mikeymike-linux> im trying to install yahoo messenger from their website and i got the debian package but it calls for libss0.9.6 and i have 0.9.8xx installed and its saying its broken because i dont have an older version...
[03:40] <carthik> sproingie, no, after I adduser, the command "groups" does not list me in that group
[03:40] <sproingie> carthik: that's correct, because your current process isn't changed.  try "exec bash" and try groups again
[03:40] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: hehe   thanks
[03:40] <[Ex0r] > mikeymike-linux- it's very buggy anyways. Why not use gaim ?
[03:40] <ardchoille> cjones: That will give you a newer version providing you build from newer sources, yes
[03:40] <mikeymike-linux> [Ex0r] , because gaim is trying to use my formatting globally
[03:40] <carthik> sprongie, exec bash doesnt help neither
[03:41] <mikeymike-linux> my yahoo tetx cant be white
[03:41] <cjones> ardchoille  thanks dude
[03:41] <geokok> c ya later guys ...thanks for the help!
[03:41] <mikeymike-linux> [Ex0r] , my text in gaim is already white on DARK GRAY.. but yahoo doesn't allow background colors only text... and that would mean white on white
[03:41] <ardchoille> cjones: You're welcome :)
[03:41] <sproingie> carthik: strange.  exec bash --login?
[03:41] <mikeymike-linux> i cant seperate the preferences for yahoo and aim
[03:41] <carthik> sproingie, closing the terminal and opening a new one does help either.. there was a command to set the new groups without logging out and loggin in again... i forget
[03:41] <[Ex0r] > you cant?
[03:41] <[Ex0r] > last time I checked you could
[03:41] <sproingie> newgrp will work
[03:41] <mikeymike-linux> [Ex0r] , how?
[03:41] <carthik> sproingie, nope
[03:42] <isede> i am running Kubuntu and i have strange problems with Perl install ation. CPAN module does not seems to be working, always breaks on some encryption routines. any ideas?
[03:42] <ader10> Now I am trying to boot into the ubuntu live cd and it freezes at Mouting root filesystem.
[03:42] <jramsey> trying to mount a cd with an iso image on it; when i inserted it, ubuntu brought up a file browser and the files were there but i need to mount it with exec so i can run an install procedure on the cd; can someone help with the mount cmd?
[03:42] <carthik> bouncer44, install build-essential to compile anything from source, almost
[03:42] <sproingie> carthik: i can't reproduce that problem.  sure you added the group?
[03:42] <[Ex0r] > anyone know if wine runs dos programs accurately ?
[03:42] <mister_roboto> carthik:  you need to log in again. it's inheriting the environment from your first shell process when you logged in
[03:42] <carthik> sproingie, yup $sudo adduser carthik fuse
[03:42] <sproingie> [Ex0r] : you want dosbox for dos apps
[03:43] <[Ex0r] > sproingie- its dukenukem 3d
[03:43] <carthik> sproingie, installing fuse added the group too...
[03:43] <[Ex0r] > a game that runs from dos
[03:43] <ader10> Hello everybody. I am trying to install ubuntu version 6.06 LTS for my 64-bit pc and everything goes alright until I edit partitions or until it actually starts copying files. I would be grateful for any help given.
[03:43] <ttyfscker> can someone here help me with this problem that is likely to be unfixable atm?  i have a Logitech Quickcam notebook pro with the usb ID 046d:08c3..   I have had no luck with pwc, usbcam, quickcam, or any of the other drivers that are thought of to work.   I find it very troublesome to switch to winXP to just do a video conference, and buying a different camera is not in question.. can anyone help?
[03:43] <carthik> mister_roboto, but there was a command that would allow me to "refresh" without logging out... like the bash "source" command, you know.
[03:43] <mister_roboto> carthik: you might be thinking of "newgrp"
[03:43] <sproingie> ohh i do always log in fresh when i change groups, come to think
[03:43] <carthik> mister_roboto, not so sure I am
[03:43] <mister_roboto> carthik: to set your group?
[03:44] <mister_roboto> carthik: what you trying to do again?
[03:44] <mister_roboto> carthik: refresh what?
[03:44] <carthik> mister_roboto, to add  myself to a group (adduser)
[03:44] <sproingie> i just forget since i have ssh set up to do it with a keypress
[03:44] <carthik> mister_roboto, the groups I belong to
[03:44] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: OK I have access to /var/log/messages but I'm not sure what I"m lookign for, there's a lot of stuff there
[03:44] <mister_roboto> carthik: 'id' will tell you that
[03:44] <mister_roboto> carthik: or you can just go look in /etc/group
[03:45] <mister_roboto> carthik: i mean 'id' will show you which groups you currently belong to
[03:46] <ader10> I am trying to install ubuntu version 6.06 LTS for my 64-bit pc and everything goes alright until I edit partitions or until it actually starts copying files. I would be grateful for any help given. My machine freezes when I edit partitions or when the install program actually starts copying files.
[03:46] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: try starting wtih Xorg.0.log
[03:46] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: that's just the stuff from X
[03:46] <carthik> mister_roboto, try "groups"
[03:47] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: or the ".old" file is from the last login
[03:47] <ljlolel> how do i use grep with a multiline pattern?
[03:47] <mister_roboto> carthik: same as "id" but with a little less info :)
[03:47] <carthik> mister_roboto, I know how to check if I am in the group - what I dont know and would like help with, is with how to make bash realize that after adduser, I am now a member of fuse.
[03:47] <ubuntu> is there any way to resize a ext2 partition towards the beginning of the disk, that is change the start of the partition? libparted, which every tools seems to use does not seem to be able to do it
[03:48] <mister_roboto> carthik: have you tried the newgrp command?
[03:48] <phreekbird> sup guys
[03:48] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: OK I found it, but there are no errors given in Xorg.0.log
[03:48] <mikeymike-linux> is there a way to make game not group all its windows into one taskbar button?
[03:48] <mikeymike-linux> right now it says gaim (10) and i hate it
[03:49] <squidgy> Does anyone here know whether Compiz makes a log file?  mine dies every time I run it with no error messages.  It worked fine earlier today.
[03:49] <carthik> mister_roboto, that doesnt help - I just need to be able to mount dirs using fuse
[03:49] <deep> O.o ! What are you people doing up now? Its the middle of the night, god damn it! ;D
[03:49] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: what about in Xorg.0.log.old?
[03:49] <carthik> mister_roboto, without "sudo"ing
[03:49] <phreekbird> question, just installed a new uibuntu LAMP ... put it on a diff network from my box ( my box = 192.168.1 network, LAMP Box = 192.168.10 network) how can i bring up a shell for it? ssh server is not istalled by default i do not think, any help is appreciated =D
[03:49] <mister_roboto> carthik: wtf do you mean it doesn't help? if you are listed in the group file, it WILL switch you to that group
[03:50] <ader10> I am unable to install ubuntu and nobody is going to help me... I'll just stick with suse. :(
[03:50] <mister_roboto> carthik: obviously that's not what you wanted then
[03:50] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: No, no errors there either
[03:50] <jramsey> help with cdrom mount/umount .. trying to remount a cd with exec so i can run an install procedure on it but cannot; do i umount first? tried that and get device busy error ????
[03:50] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: That is, there are no lines that begin with (EE)
[03:50] <deep> IsnIsnt there a ubuntuchatroom here somewhere? :P
[03:50] <[Ex0r] > phreekbird- without ssh being installed you cant
[03:50] <[Ex0r] > deep- #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:51] <deep> Cheers, m8. :)
[03:51] <[Ex0r] > any time
[03:51] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[03:51] <[Ex0r] > time for me to decide which ircd I want to run
[03:51] <phreekbird> Ex0r: telnet? otherwise i got to lug a keyboard./monitor down
[03:51] <[Ex0r] > phreekbird- you can telnet in and than install ssh
[03:52] <[Ex0r] > sudo apt-get install ssh
[03:52] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: if you want to pastebin it, i can have a quick look but i'm off for dinner soon. probably won't be able to help you. just a general purpose tip to always check your logs first when hunting problems :)
[03:52] <phreekbird> thanks man thats exactly what i needed to hear =D
[03:52] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: How do I pastebin something?
[03:52] <sproingie> !pastebin
[03:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:52] <brandon_> i'm getting a foomatic-rip exited  error when i try to print
[03:55] <jramsey> if fstab is changed do i need to reboot?
[03:55] <hawkaloogie> jramsey, no, sudo mount -a
[03:55] <hawkaloogie> jramsey, unless you removed something, then you'll have to umount it manually
[03:55] <thompa> hmm im starting to like gnome, now that nvidia is working, seems my card was physically bad
[03:56] <jramsey> hawkaloogie, trying to remount a cdrom with exec so i can run an install on it; it mounted so i cannot
[03:56] <sproingie> jramsey: umount it then remount it
[03:56] <Moosebuntu> Can someone help me configure my monitor to display more than just a screen resolution of 1024 x 768?  It's using the "Generic Monitor" settings.
[03:56] <jramsey> i have tried umounting it; get device busy and no app is up using it (that i can tell)
[03:56] <gmoore> i just installed a tv tuner card in my ubuntu system, which is running dapper server. what do i need to do to set it up so ubuntu sees it?
[03:58] <sproingie> jramsey: do you have any shell windows open that are cd'd to any directory of the cdrom?
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> Why so many updates in the last week?
[03:58] <dash`> is there a way to write LS results to a file or anything?
[03:58] <sproingie> dash`: ls > filename
[03:58] <ardchoille> !fixres > Moosebuntu
[03:58] <dash`> thanks
[03:58] <jramsey> sproingie, i guess i must have cuz i just umount'ed it after killing a gnome-term window; will try remounting it now ty
[03:58] <Moosebuntu> cool
[03:58] <Moosebuntu> thx
[03:59] <ardchoille> yw
[03:59] <mister_roboto> jramsey: "lsof" and then grep for the device, filename, directory or whatever
[03:59] <bouncer44> Moosebuntu: try ctrl + keypad (+ - )
[04:00] <bouncer44> default xorg.conf has loads of resolutions
[04:00] <Moosebuntu> bouncer> doesn't do anything
[04:00] <sproingie> lsof | grep $(readlink /dev/cdrom)
[04:00] <phreekbird> Ex0r: Connection refused =(
[04:00] <phreekbird> sure telnet works out of the box?
[04:00] <sproingie> ubuntu doesn't even come with telnet ootb
[04:01] <sproingie> telnetd that is
[04:01] <bouncer44> can you read the xorg.conf ? ......
[04:01] <phreekbird> crap then how am i going to freakin edit my LAMP ... guess i got to drag up a keyboard and mouse =p
[04:01] <deep> and a screen ^^,
[04:02] <sproingie> phreekbird: you'll need to get on the console and install sshd at the very least
[04:02] <phreekbird> ya that too
[04:02] <sproingie> normally it's not too useful to install a server without remote access
[04:02] <spades> if he has the repos he can just do it blind
[04:02] <cjones> how do you disable acceleration in xorg.conf?
[04:02] <phreekbird> ya thats the ultomat plan sproingie
[04:02] <blind> yeah
[04:02] <blind> he can do it blind
[04:02] <sproingie> if ubuntu-server installs without sshd then that would be kind of dumb
[04:03] <phreekbird> was hoping it came out of the box with sshd ... it dosnt, so i was at least hoping for telnet so i could install sshd
[04:03] <phreekbird> =p
[04:03] <sproingie> phreekbird: that'd make a lot of sense.  guess not.
[04:03] <phreekbird> rofl ok b back in a few =p
[04:03] <sproingie> time to attach the ol keyboard
[04:04] <phreekbird> ya if i can find on
[04:04] <phreekbird> one
[04:04] <sproingie> yank out the one you're using
[04:04] <phreekbird> noooo
[04:04] <phreekbird> thats too wasy
[04:04] <phreekbird> easy
[04:04] <phreekbird> got an old usb sitting around somewere i kjnow it
[04:05] <godtvisken> Lately when I attempt to start applications they take fovever saying "loading xxx" then the loading message disappears and the program doesn't open
[04:05] <Schalken> does anyone know anything about NTLDR?
[04:05] <Moosebuntu> !fixres
[04:05] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:06] <Moosebuntu> !fixres Moosebuntu
[04:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about fixres Moosebuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:06] <Desh> Ok, I am going to install windows xp on the same harddisk as a ubuntu installation. I already used the GParted LiveCD to repartition my drive. Should I make my Ubuntu partition hda1, the extended and swaps as hda2 and hda5 respectively, and XP partition hda3? Or switch around the XP and extended partitions?
[04:06] <Moosebuntu> I did "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart", and my screen went blank on the F7 X terminal.
[04:06] <Moosebuntu> :(
[04:06] <baxter_kylie> Hey, quick question about workspaces: Is there a way to assign a specific workspace to a specific screen?
[04:07] <hawkaloogie> Desh, iirc most windows do not like not being on the first partition, which is why i usually put them on hda1
[04:07] <dr_willis> baxter_kylie,  i dont think it works that way
[04:07] <Bizzeh> best thing to do is hda1 == windows, hda2 == linux boot, hda3 == linux root, hda4 == linux swap
[04:08] <amonkey> how can i start the screensaver from bash?
[04:08] <baxter_kylie> dr_willis: No? Cripes. A friend of mine has done this on his gentoo installation and without xinerama.
[04:08] <godtvisken> Lately when I attempt to start applications they take fovever saying "loading xxx" then the loading message disappears and the program doesn't open. What is going on?
[04:08] <dr_willis> baxter_kylie,  hmm.. not sure how hes doing it then.
[04:08] <gdb> godtvisken: Have you recently changed your hostname?  Or are you on a dhcp connection?
[04:09] <Desh> hawkaloogie: The problem is, I do not want to mess with my hda1 partition as Ubuntu is already on it.
[04:09] <mister_roboto> godtvisken: you might wanna try starting the apps from the command line so you can see any error messages they might be displaying
[04:09] <godtvisken> gdb: Yes to both. But what does the internet have to do with it?
[04:09] <gdb> I'd suggest making hda4 an extended partition and putting swap on an hda5 logical partition to allow for future growth / modifications to your filesystem.
[04:09] <gdb> godtvisken: have you logged out and back into your desktop since doing that?
[04:09] <gdb> godtvisken: GNOME is sensitive to hostname changes if you're logged in when it changed.
[04:09] <godtvisken> gdb: yes, i have restarted a few times two, and tried two different kernels
[04:10] <gdb> godtvisken: Ah, in that case I don't know what could be causing it.
[04:10] <pppoe_dude> where can i configure vncserver's options? like which wm to start, etc...
[04:10] <godtvisken> gdb: well, thanks
[04:10] <gdb> godtvisken: I'm sorry. :-(
[04:10] <gmoore> i did a server install of ubuntu. i'd like to be able to launch applications using X from my windows machine. (eg xclock, gimp, etc). what package(s) do i need?
[04:10] <dr_willis> pppoe_dude,  it deoends on how you are starting vnc., - the vncserver command reads several config files you can change.. its a script. read it and see what it does.
[04:10] <gdb> godtvisken: My biggest issue with trying to help others is that I can only help others with problems I've experienced myself, and since I experience so few, there's not a lot I an help with. ;-)
[04:11] <genbie> i would like to install ubuntu from another distribution over the internet. is there anything similar to this for ubuntu? http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en
[04:11] <dr_willis> pppoe_dude,  i got vnc ser where it spawns as i vnc in - so i get a GDM screen
[04:11] <dr_willis> :P
[04:11] <hawkaloogie> Desh, then it doesn't really matter i don't think. except i heard a nasty rumor about old windows kernels not liking being installed after a certain block number (you should be fine, don't listen to me)
[04:11] <mnk0> help!
[04:11] <gdb> gmoore: I use the freenx packages from Seveas' repository.
[04:11] <pppoe_dude> hmmm
[04:11] <pppoe_dude> well actually right now it started with no wm
[04:11] <pppoe_dude> for some reason
[04:11] <gdb> gmoore: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:11] <mnk0> i just installed ubuntu, on a freespace on my hd
[04:12] <pppoe_dude> which is perfect for my purposes
[04:12] <dr_willis> pppoe_dude,  or its using 'twm'
[04:12] <Desh> hawkaloogie, ok thanks.
[04:12] <mnk0> and now i get error when booting into winxp
[04:12] <pppoe_dude> dr_willis, nope just X now
[04:12] <mnk0> cannot load hal.dll
[04:12] <mnk0> anyone farmilir with this erorr?
[04:12] <gdb> I like twm.
[04:12] <gmoore> gdb: what about it?
[04:12] <gdb> I wish it came installed by default so I could swap to it when suffering bouts of nostalgia. :-)
[04:12] <gdb> gmoore: What about what?
[04:12] <pppoe_dude> i can do 'xterm -display localhost:1' tho which is great
[04:12] <chemjeff> mister_roboto, did you receive the file?
[04:12] <gmoore> gdb: why did you link me to a list of seveas' repositories?
[04:13] <dr_willis> gdb,  hmm - i think it is installed by default. :P just no entry for it in the gdm
[04:13] <JackDeth> Trying to install Xubuntu dapper on an old Toshiba Satellite Pro. Found some nice instructions online for doing a very spartan install (using Sarge) that should still work with the new version. However, after first doing very basic "server" install, it does not seem to recognize my internet connection so I cannot do an "apt-get update". I keeps trying to connect to archives listed in sources.list but I keep getting errors "Temporary failure
[04:13] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: no. just post the link to the file on pastebin
[04:13] <gdb> gmoore: Like I said, I use Seveas' freenx packages to do what you're looking to do.
[04:13] <gdb> dr_willis: which twm doesn't bring it up for me. :-/
[04:13] <gmoore> gdb: 'm familiar with NX but i'm not interested in installing it on this system; just X
[04:13] <gdb> as in "which twm" on the commadn line
[04:13] <dr_willis> gdb,  i install so much stuff.. it may of got added by some other package. :)
[04:14] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: here is the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18127
[04:14] <jramsey> anyone ever seen this? jramsey@ubuntu:~$ sudo nautilus
[04:14] <jramsey> error: The metadata does not have a thumbnail property
[04:14] <godtvisken> Lately when I attempt to start applications they take fovever saying "loading xxx" then the loading message disappears and the program doesn't open. What is going on?
[04:14] <gdb> gmoore: Well, "just X" is a pretty tall order for Windows.  You will need to install quite a bit of software to get a working X server under Windows.  I use http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/ installed to disk for that.
[04:14] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: I had to use lynx to send it, I'm sorry if the format is a little messed up
[04:14] <dr_willis> runnung nautilus as root - is a little scary. :)
[04:15] <bouncer44> brb, trying out "make"
[04:15] <gdb> dr_willis: This system has had freenx, apache2, tcsh (for one weirdo user), postfix, and nothing else installed it outside of the stock, right off the CD install. ;-)
[04:15] <gdb> installed on it*
[04:15] <jramsey> dr_willis, i had to; needed to run an install proc from a cdrom and it isn't set for exec in fstab by default
[04:15] <chemjeff> Oh while I'm here I have another question.  When I was installing Ubuntu and it came time to partition the hard drive, it claimed that I had a SCSI drive when I know I have an IDE drive.  Is there a way to tell Linux that I have an IDE drive?
[04:15] <jramsey> so i used naut. to browse it
[04:15] <gdb> Oh, yeah, and openssh-server like *everyone* installs
[04:15] <godtvisken> How do I see error messages coming from X? I go to tty8 and nothing is there, I thought X was usually started from there
[04:15] <MrKeuner> It looks like OSCommerce site is cracked. there is alink to a trojan file from the homepage
[04:15] <phunkalicious> maybe you have a sata drive
[04:17] <chemjeff> Oh, I think I do have a SATA drive. But that is not the same as SCSI is it?
[04:17] <Jbba> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu and I want to know if there's a way to upgrade to dapper drake from breezy wihtout having to boot up in live cd mode and without having to completely download it off the internet with apt-get, i have the dapper drake cd beside me.
[04:18] <phreekbird> wooot keyboard and monitor worked! rofl
[04:18] <phreekbird> thanks guys
[04:18] <fowlduck> Jbba, you could add the CD as a repository and do a system upgrade from it, I think
[04:18] <Jbba> Okay
[04:18] <ttyfscker> well i'll be damned.. if anyone has a quickcam notebook pro with usb id 046d:083c.. then let  me know and ill guide you through getting it to work!! i just got mine to work..
[04:18] <jsleeper_> if anyone in here is involved with ppc development i want to say a big 'thanks'
[04:19] <jsleeper_> it didn't take long to install dapper on my al powerbook and i'm now on my wpa encrypted network
[04:19] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: i'm sorry. i read through it and it looks ok to me. i have no clue
[04:19] <fowlduck> Jbba, look how your current CD is in your /etc/apt/sources.list and create another line for dapper
[04:19] <dash`> how do you make an executable text file?
[04:19] <dash`> like a batch file in windows
[04:19] <[Ex0r] > probably won't do any good, but does anybody here know of any mapping software for ubuntu like gtk-radiant ?
[04:19] <skavenge> chmod +x
[04:19] <Jbba> Okay, I have it set up in synaptic as a reposity, now how do I start the upgrade?
[04:20] <chemjeff> dash: I think what you want is a shell script.
[04:20] <dash`> possible, I don't know much about it
[04:20] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: you might try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to reconfigure your X
[04:20] <mister_roboto> chemjeff: but i don't know what the problem is with your current config
[04:20] <deimos_> good evening
[04:20] <gmoore> ok if i install KDE or Gnome on my server install and noone is logged in to one of the sessions will kde/gnome use any memory or resources?
[04:20] <Desh> Jbba: If I wer you I'd do a fresh install of Dapper.
[04:21] <Jbba> Well, I get the live cd booted up and it take forever and a day to do anything with it
[04:21] <Desh> Jbba: When I updated a bunch of things stopped working. backing up your data and ding a fresh install seems like the best way to me.
[04:21] <fowlduck> dash`, add #!/bin/sh to the beginning of a text file and from the command-line type "chmod +x filename"
[04:21] <Jbba> Mmkay
[04:21] <chemjeff> mister_roboto: Okay, I have an NVIDIA GeForce graphics card, what would be the correct driver to use?  Is it nv?
[04:21] <Jbba> thanks for the help guys, Btw, I have no data to backup because I just installed breezy
[04:22] <fowlduck> dash`, then you can just go ./filename from the directory and it will run
[04:22] <fowlduck> dash`, for more information see: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[04:22] <chemjeff> dash: I would check out the man pages for csh or bash. Those are two of the most common shells.  Each has its own complete scripting language.
[04:23] <dash`> thanks
[04:23] <heretician> Question- How do I edit my Login Screen w/ Dapper (I have it already extracted and ready-to-use in /usr/share/gdm/themes) I am guessing there is something I need to install, although I do not know what?
[04:23] <fowlduck> dash`, no problem
[04:23] <offroadgeek> anyone have dapper running on an OQO 01+?
[04:23] <fowlduck> heretician, System>Administration>Login Window
[04:24] <godtvisken> I don't know if running Linux is worth it for me. I mean, my printer isn't supported, it's hell getting my network card to work, I need to hack around to get my Rio Karma to work, my mouse buttons don't work correctly.. What's the point if I just want to chat, program and use the web?
[04:24] <heretician> Thanks fowlduck
[04:24] <gmoore> godtvisken: if you need to ask those questions then stop wasting your time and use windows
[04:25] <[Ex0r] > godtvisken- Rio Karma? I have a Rio Cali and have no problems
[04:25] <fowlduck> godtvisken, might not be the best distro for you then.  Shop around, sometimes other distros will better-suit your needs
[04:25] <mnk0> hal.dll missing
[04:25] <mnk0> when trying to boot in to winxp
[04:25] <ToHellWithGA> any k3b experts here?  k3b is failing to compute the checksum every time i burn a disc, although the on-disc check utilities have so far said the discs are fine.
[04:25] <mnk0> anyone familiar with this problem?
[04:26] <fowlduck> mnk0, ummm, wrong channel for that question
[04:26] <mnk0> where could i find out?
[04:26] <fowlduck> ToHellWithGA, maybe slow down the write-speed?
[04:26] <mnk0> i just installed ubuntu on a new partition
[04:26] <fowlduck> mnk0, google has your answers I'm sure
[04:26] <mnk0> and i get that error when i try to boot into win
[04:26] <mnk0> ia m googlin
[04:26] <ToHellWithGA> fowlduck: it's a CDRW and the valid speeds in the list are 10 and auto
[04:26] <mnk0> just wondering if someone had experienced it
[04:26] <mnk0> and coudl help out
[04:26] <mnk0> that all
[04:26] <ToHellWithGA> i don't think 10 speed burning could be too fast :/
[04:27] <fowlduck> ToHellWithGA, sorry, just a shot in the dark, maybe see if there is a k3b channel
[04:27] <Desh> Hi all! I repartitioned my drive and now have an empty ntfs partition, hda3, which I would like to add to fstab, how do I do this?
[04:27] <genbie> i would like to install ubuntu from another distribution over the internet. is there anything similar to this for ubuntu? http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en
[04:28] <fiveiron> is there a way to change what font is used in the graphical system startup?
[04:28] <Moosebuntu> What does the Ubuntu icon mean next to Synaptec packages?
[04:29] <fiveiron> Moosebuntu, i'm pretty sure that means it is an officially supported package
[04:29] <[Ex0r] > I take it cedega isn't free ?
[04:29] <Moosebuntu> fiveiron> I thought that's what it might be.  Thanks.
[04:29] <fiveiron> [Ex0r] , it is if you do the cvs
[04:29] <fiveiron> but last I checked the cvs wiki site was b0rked
[04:29] <fiveiron> and you don'
[04:29] <jramsey> my install worked from cd but it installed as root; is there a mass chown cmd to change the owner from root to ?whatever from a dir including all subdirs so i can write to the folders?
[04:30] <fiveiron> sorry.. don't get point2play in the cvs
[04:30] <[Ex0r] > im just looking for the new version, it said it supports half-life 2
[04:30] <Desh> jramsey: you don;t have access to anything besides your home fodler
[04:30] <verbose> jramsey: find / |xargs chown user
[04:30] <Desh> jramsey: use sudo to access all that stuff
[04:30] <godtvisken> I changed my hostname and now I get the error when trying to use `sudo` "sudo: unable to lookup moksha via gethostbyname()" Except I cannot change the hostname back without sudo!
[04:31] <fiveiron> yeah... jramsey read the docs... its supposed to be like that
[04:31] <jramsey> fiveiron, yeah thanks
[04:32] <zippy__> hi maybe some1 can help me.. ubuntu 6.06 comes with sshd?
[04:33] <advant_> Anyone know of any working guides to get enlightenments engage installed in ubuntu?
[04:34] <godtvisken> I changed my hostname and now I get the error when trying to use `sudo` "sudo: unable to lookup moksha via gethostbyname()" Except I cannot change the hostname back without sudo!
[04:34] <godtvisken> What can I do?
[04:34] <jjross> Desh, etc/fstab  add this line to ftstab   /dev/hda3     /media/hda3   ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[04:35] <Desh> jjross: Thanks a bunch! :)
[04:36] <jjross> Desh,  you may have to create a directory /media or whatever you want to call it
[04:36] <deimos_> advant_: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=e16 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightenement
[04:36] <[Ex0r] > darnit, no way to play half-life 2 on linux
[04:36] <[Ex0r] > and vmware will run it way too slow
[04:37] <jjross> Desh, make sure you back up fstab before you do this, search the forum , there is something on hoe to do this
[04:37] <heretician> Where are icon packages stored (to-be-used) and where can I locate the application to launch some type of Manager to replace my icons?
[04:38] <[Ex0r] > heretician- typically /usr/share/pixmaps
[04:38] <Desh> How do I check the order of my partitions? I want to make sure they are all in order so when  install XP it doesn't mess them up. :)
[04:39] <gnomefreak> heretician: /usr/share/pixmaps
[04:39] <heretician> Alrighty, thanks.. Where can I activate them?
[04:39] <heretician> or do i just unpack them and place them in that folder?
[04:39] <[Ex0r] > heretician- for themes ?
[04:39] <heretician> Icons ;0
[04:39] <[Ex0r] > heretician- yeah, themed icons?
[04:39] <heretician> er er...
[04:39] <heretician> hold on
[04:40] <jjross> Desh, do you have gparted on your computer?
[04:40] <Desh> Yep.
[04:40] <element> I just installed ubuntu for the first time...what's the easiest way to get all the latest updates for my system?
[04:40] <advant_> deimos_: thats about installing the whole thing, not just engage
[04:40] <[Ex0r] > element- check the status bar at the top of the screen.
[04:40] <jjross> Desh, run it and it should show you what is there
[04:40] <Desh> jjross: But on gparted it shows hda1, hda2 -> hda5, and hda3
[04:40] <[Ex0r] > It'll get them for you.
[04:40] <element> and it's saying I'm not root when trying to use apt-get...even tho I thought I logged in as root =/
[04:41] <heretician> [ex0r] : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=27166
[04:41] <[Ex0r] > element- you have to sudo before using apt-get
[04:41] <heretician> :)
[04:41] <[Ex0r] > ah yeah, themed icons
[04:41] <[Ex0r] > iirc, they go in ~/.icons
[04:41] <Desh> jjross: I dont want XP to mix them up and fudge them up, like maybe make hda5 to hda3 and XP hda4. >_<!
[04:41] <deimos_> Desh: sudo fdisk -lu
[04:41] <jjross> Desh, does it say the type of file system they are?
[04:41] <cjones> could sometake a look at this and tell me what wrong ?http://pastebin.ca/89312
[04:41] <heretician> [ex0r]  How can I activate them?
[04:41] <Contou1> hey all - I'm trying to connect to net using ppp thru a qtek smartphone - I set phone number, username, random password (provider says it's not needed) and tried to connect - without success; they say there in the phone manual I have to set some extra AT init commands but it's nowhere in gui; so I tried to use pppconfig and then pppd call my-isp - again, without success; any clues?
[04:42] <element> [Ex0r] : ah yes,,,,but to get around that 'you're not root' issue?
[04:42] <Desh> jjross: yeah. hda1 - > primary ext3, hda2 -> extended, hda3 is ntfs primary, hda5 is linux swap
[04:42] <[Ex0r] > heretician- you extract them into the folder that they go in, I cant remember where though. I thought it was ~/.icons
[04:42] <godtvisken> I changed my hostname and now I get the error when trying to use `sudo` "sudo: unable to lookup moksha via gethostbyname()" Except I cannot change the hostname back without sudo! What can I do?
[04:42] <jjross> Desh, i dont think it will, i have never had that problem, hda5 is hda 5 on either system
[04:42] <Desh> Ok cool, thanks.
[04:43] <Desh> deimos_: thanks, yeah they are all in order, with 5 at the end. Thanks.
[04:43] <jjross> Desh,  if you are like me ,pretty soon you wont even be booting in to windows
[04:43] <heretician> [ex0r] : Know how I would manually get there? I know the "." stands for going somewhere, althoughhhh dont know where
[04:44] <Desh> jjross: I don't, I can use Linux for basically everything, except my ATI card will not work, and I need Premiere Pro, :-P
[04:44] <[Ex0r] > heretician- I am trying to tell you how, but I don't remember what directory they go in
[04:44] <heretician> [ex0r] : Ill look around then hehe
[04:45] <[Ex0r] > Go to system>preferences>themes>click theme details, click the Icons tab
[04:45] <[Ex0r] > and than drag-drop the folder into the window
[04:46] <zippy__> guys pls.. in a keymap file i get: keycode   1 = Escape .. if i do keycode 160 = F18... how/where i can define F18?
[04:46] <jjross> Desh, I used to think I needed to keep windows around for odd things like that, but I have not booted it up for over 2 months now, maybe i will some day
[04:46] <heretician> [ex0r]  SWEET! Thanks, know where I can get the basic themes that edit the top and bottom panels?
[04:46] <Desh> jjross: haha, yeah maybe
[04:46] <[Ex0r] > heretician- same site
[04:47] <Feircestcalm> la li la anyone want to help me with a super simple problem i'm sure.
[04:47] <Desh> If I dual boot XP and Linux with Grub, will grub still boot linux o the newset kernels whenever I update it? (or synaptic/adept update them I should say)
[04:47] <gmoore> 1) which is more resource intensive, KDE or Gnome?   2) if there are no sessions running, are any resources used (aside from disk space)?
[04:47] <heretician> [ex0r] : There are several types of themes although I do not know which is for those type.. All of the Splash Themes look really cool although I do not know what they are either :P
[04:47] <meekish> does anyone know of an init.d script to start svnserve as a daemon?
[04:48] <deimos_> Desh: you will get to choose
[04:48] <heretician> gmoore: 2.) Most definitely yes, resources will always be used as longa s your computer is on-- like displaying the GUI and stuff like that
[04:48] <[Ex0r] > heretician- hmm, did you copy and paste it into the folder ?
[04:48] <[Ex0r] > it wont let me do it for some reason
[04:48] <MM23> does anyone know of ANY way to force amaroK to show up in the system tray? it works in KDE... but hell if I'm going to use KDE
[04:49] <Desh> deimos_: So Grub menu loader will show all the possible Linux kernels and XP? I would prefer it just show one option for Ubuntu and one for XP and when I pick Ubuntu just boot to the newest kernel.
[04:49] <heretician> [ex0r] : Dont know which folder-- the Icons worked perfect, just dragged the tar into that box. Although I dont even know where the Splash Themes go.. I'm guessing they aren't for the Panels htough
[04:49] <deimos_> Desh: it will show them all unless you edit the config file. not very hard to do
[04:49] <Feircestcalm> Ok, so i'm installing ubuntu and i am not able to apt-get install xine....and i cant get mp3's or dvd's to work, doe snayone know what I should do!
[04:50] <Lord-ChewY> what is the command to run cedega afteri installing the cvs?
[04:50] <Desh> deimos_: ah ok, I guess I'll do that when the time comes, which should hopefuly be a few days. Anyways, I added hda3 to fstab as someone said, but it says only root can mount it. Should I reboot after editing fstab?
[04:51] <tjb891> ok, ubuntu freezes whenever i try to activate my Belkin F5D7050 USB adapter, does anyone know how to fix this
[04:51] <heretician> [ex0r] : Missed your last message, just drag the tar into the list of current Icons
[04:52] <deimos_> Desh: i'm sorry but i'm new here too. so i will only tell you what i know it works because i already tried it out. in this case i don't know :)
[04:52] <Desh> deimos_: ok, thanks a lot! :)
[04:53] <Tonren> How do you watch Quicktime movies in Firefox?
[04:54] <Desh> Tonren: Mplayer
[04:54] <heretician> Is therea  guide to installing Java on Ubuntu or is it just downloading a package?
[04:54] <Tonren> That hasn't been working... let me try reinstalling it
[04:54] <Tonren> heretician: It's just a package
[04:54] <Desh> Tonren: Install the mplayer from repositories and any firefox plugin.
[04:54] <Lord-ChewY> anyone know the command to run cedega?
[04:54] <Lord-ChewY> after installing from cvs?
[04:54] <heretician> alrighty, do i need to activate any more repos?
[04:54] <Generic> know what would rock? a gtk+ rar app
[04:55] <skavenge> ark for kde, archive manager for gnome
[04:55] <skavenge> as long as rar is installed they work as frontends
[04:55] <heretician> Tonren: Could you leak me the name of that package? :P
[04:55] <Generic> ark crashes when i try to open a rar
[04:55] <Desh> heretican: activate all the repos, then: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[04:55] <Generic> er, a password locked rar
[04:55] <heretician> Okies
[04:56] <Desh> heretican: you may also want sun-java5-plugin
[04:56] <Desh> heretican, use the terminal, these won't install thru adept/synaptic I think
[04:56] <Aftermath> can anyone supply me with the link to support hardware?
[04:57] <heretician> Desh: Didn't find it
[04:57] <Moosebuntu> What is the package the includes the apache, mySql, php5 all in one?
[04:58] <Tom7e_> hey.  currently to open dvds I have to use /media/dvdrecorder/.  How do I get dvd:// to load it?
[04:58] <Tonren> Desh: Do I have to restart after installing mplayer and mozilla-mplayer?
[04:58] <nowell> Hi all. Can anyone spare a second to help me with a problem I'm having accessing my second HDD?
[04:58] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I get update my apt-get so it doesnt do this? Couldn't find package ddrescue
[04:59] <jjross> desh, yes you need to reboot
[04:59] <Tonren> jjross: Was that addressed to me?
[04:59] <heretician> Desh: Terminal couldnt find either of them
[04:59] <Tonren> heretician: Have you enabled Universe and Multiverse?
[05:00] <jjross> Tonren,  that was odd ill try again , thanks
[05:00] <fdsd> what is the latest version of ubuntu called?
[05:00] <heretician> Tonren: Yup, every one of them hehe
[05:00] <Tonren> ... is jjross a bot?
[05:00] <Tonren> fdsd: Dapper
[05:00] <dash`> is there any way to force Ubuntu to open .torrent files with Azureus, instead of trying to do them by itself?
[05:00] <jjross> no, no bot
[05:01] <Tonren> dash`: You can set auto-file-actions in Firefox, I think, and there's definitely a way to associate them in Ubuntu but I'm not sure offhand
[05:01] <nowell> jjross: do you have a second? :)
[05:01] <heretician> E: couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin
[05:01] <heretician> (and jre
[05:02] <skavenge> right click on the torrent file, 'properties', should be a tab for 'open with', select azureus
[05:02] <jjross> nowell, ill be here on and off tonight, trying to get some honey do projects done
[05:02] <nowell> ahhh gotcha
[05:02] <nowell> I'm having a problem getting access to my second HDD
[05:02] <nowell> i mounted it using sudo in the terminal
[05:02] <nowell> but now it's saying I don't have the right permissions to open it
[05:03] <nowell> has anyone had this problem setting up a second HDD?
[05:04] <Stoned2daBones> hate windows
[05:04] <Stoned2daBones> I forcing my self to learn linux
[05:04] <Stoned2daBones> but ts not easy
[05:04] <cycom> nowell: yes
[05:04] <[Ex0r] > wow, got a light desktop, now to find a dark colored icon set
[05:04] <cycom> nowell: you need to change the permissions on the folder in /media/ I think.
[05:05] <heretician> welp
[05:05] <heretician> restart didnt change anything still cant get the java package
[05:05] <heretician> darn
[05:05] <cycom> Stoned2daBones: sure it is.  Get rid of windows and run only linux fro a while
[05:05] <Stoned2daBones> is it possible tu run games like need for speed underground in ubuntu
[05:05] <cycom> swhat I did.
[05:06] <hd420> can apt tell me which package contains a file?
[05:06] <cycom> Stoned2daBones: yes, but not easily.  Dude, can you survive without games for a bit?
[05:06] <Stoned2daBones> sure
[05:06] <hd420> stoned: how?
[05:06] <skavenge> hd420: packages.ubuntu.com will let you search per file in the packages
[05:07] <hd420> skavenge: so, apt-cache can't do so?
[05:07] <Stoned2daBones> I've been using linux ubunto for almost 3 months now
[05:07] <hd420> actually, is /usr/bin/pager meant to be a symlink or a binary?
[05:08] <deimos_> it does if you have the package installed
[05:08] <nowell> Ok, I REALLY need help with this permissions problem..
[05:08] <skavenge> possibly, i know it can search for a specific package but dunno about a file in a package .. probably can somehow
[05:08] <heretician> is there anywhere i could manually download the java package?
[05:08] <Stoned2daBones> but im still not used to it
[05:09] <nowell> I've got my second HD mounted, but everytime I got to browse it, I get an error telling me I don't have permission to access /mnt
[05:09] <siio> desktop and server are the same distro correct? the dif is just the packages it installs?
[05:09] <cycom> Stoned2daBones: and you still can't spell it.
[05:09] <Stoned2daBones> LoL
[05:09] <deimos_> heretician: have you tried easyubuntu?
[05:09] <[Ex0r] > siio- correct
[05:10] <heretician> deimos_ dont think so
[05:10] <skavenge> siio: yes, server doesnt install a GUI by default as well
[05:10] <Zambezi> Is it possible to change port in qtorrent?
[05:10] <Stoned2daBones> is the gnome onterface the same for all versions of linux?
[05:10] <[Ex0r] > !easyubuntu
[05:10] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:10] <siio> is there a apt get for the gui in server or do you need to do it by hand?\
[05:10] <deimos_> heretician: go here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190535 easyubuntu is a package that will help you install a load of needed applications including java
[05:10] <skavenge> siio: you can apt-get a gui desktop later yes
[05:10] <Stoned2daBones> what can I do to download music like in kazaa?
[05:11] <Skwid_> hi
[05:11] <heretician> deimos_: Already googled it, this is great.. Thanks a million deimos_ :)
[05:11] <Whil> hi
[05:11] <skavenge> Stoned2daBones: limewire, frostwire, gnutella, any p2p program
[05:11] <heretician> deimos_: Doesn't come with any apps though does it? :/
[05:11] <siio> what would it be? apt-get gnome
[05:11] <Desh> My /media/ folder has the cd0 folder for the CD drive as well as a link to that folder, is it safe to remove that link as it seems useless to me?
[05:11] <Skwid_> i downloaded and burned the ubuntu server image, but my computer will not boot on it, is it supposed to be bootable ???
[05:11] <skavenge> siio: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:11] <heretician> deimos_ Wow nm, its not automatic.. :P
[05:11] <siio> to easy
[05:12] <skavenge> Skwid_: yes it is, are you getting an error or what?
[05:12] <siio> is ubuntu always this nice?
[05:12] <Whil> does install ubuntu desktop override kubuntu?
[05:12] <deimos_> heretician: it's very easy to do. i didn't know anything about linux just copy pasted a few lines and it worked
[05:12] <Skwid_> skavenge: no, it just boots to the hard drive, even though the cd drive is first on the boot list in the BIOS
[05:12] <skavenge> Whil: no it keeps gnome and installs kde as well
[05:12] <StuckMojo> um...mp3?
[05:13] <StuckMojo> i forgot what i had to do on my box
[05:13] <[Ex0r] > lol
[05:13] <[Ex0r] > easyubuntu froze up
[05:13] <StuckMojo> setting up one for a friend now
[05:13] <deimos_> Whil: no. you can chose at the login screen
[05:13] <skavenge> Skwid_: how fast did you burn it? the livecd's can be picky and need to burn slow
[05:13] <StuckMojo> tell StuckMojo about mp3
[05:13] <StuckMojo> drat
[05:13] <jamesstansell> !mp3
[05:13] <Laney> np:
[05:13] <Whil> skavenge: Oh, last time I tried installing gnome, i started getting egg_desktop errors and stuff so I tend to stay away from it.
[05:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:13] <Tonren> Hey guys, I installed mplayer and mozilla-mplayer, but I still can't view quicktime
[05:13] <StuckMojo> thanks
[05:14] <[Ex0r] > hmm, easyubuntu's repository is down
[05:14] <skavenge> having both is hectic anyway because noth wm's apps show up in each others menus .. i spent alot of time getting them to get along heh
[05:14] <Skwid_> skavenge: 12x, but it's not the livecd
[05:14] <skavenge> noth/both
[05:14] <Whil> anybody have a sense for how well Suse runs in Qemu?
[05:15] <skavenge> Skwid_: its the alternate cd? is this dapper 6.06?
[05:15] <Skwid_> skavenge: hold on
[05:15] <Skwid_> skavenge: ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso this is what i burned
[05:17] <Skwid_> ill be back
[05:17] <teicah> yeah! i did it.  I helped myself.  I wanted to know if/where archives d/led w/apt-get are stored:  $man apt-get|grep cache ... /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:17] <element> shouldn't "sudo apt-get install xinerama" install it?
[05:18] <nowell> So nobody's able to help me out with this permissions problem?
[05:18] <nowell> I can't even access the HDD through the terminal
[05:19] <deimos_> nowell: i'm new around here but i know i saw somewhere a way to change the access. i just can't remember where. still looking :)
[05:19] <Dial_tone> the access to what
[05:19] <nowell> heh :) yea I've got it mounted..but it got mounted in 2 spots
[05:19] <nowell> I have a second HDD
[05:19] <deimos_> write/read access to partitions
[05:19] <nowell> I've used terminal and sudo bash diskmount to mount it
[05:20] <nowell> but whenever i try to access it, I get that I don't have permission to access /mnt
[05:20] <nowell> or to access /dev/hdd1
[05:20] <Skwid_> skavenge: im back
[05:20] <element> whenever i try to install a package, it says it can't be found..am I missing an update somewhere?
[05:20] <Tonren> hey, anyone gotten quicktime to work in firefox?
[05:20] <mikeyj> hey all
[05:20] <deimos_> element: you haven't enblaed all the repositories
[05:21] <skavenge> Skwid_: ive heard of people having to burn it as slow as 4x, if your back in windows or whatever OS you might want to verify the md5sum as well
[05:21] <element> deimos_: how do I do that? I just installed ubuntu
[05:21] <hd420> the pager variable wasn't set in me environment, thanks guys
[05:21] <skavenge> i dont have any experience installing the server cd myself, i used desktop
[05:22] <deimos_> element: system-admin-synaptic settings-repos
[05:22] <someothernick> nowell: sudo chown -R username:username /path/to/hdd .... then sudo chmod -R 755 /path to hdd
[05:22] <mikeyj> been a real long time since using linux, trying ubuntu, very much enjoing it.  Just curious if anyone has succeded in getting monodevelop to work with it, and what the best approch (URL maybe) would be for a fellow who basically now knows not alot about linux.
[05:22] <StuckMojo> how about mp3 in xmms in particular?
[05:22] <element> deimos_: then what after that?
[05:22] <StuckMojo> on amd64 if that matters
[05:23] <deimos_> element: check universe and multiverse
[05:24] <Skwid_> skavenge: hum ...
[05:24] <element> deimos_: for LTS?
[05:24] <deimos_> yup
[05:24] <element> deimos_: and both binary and source?
[05:24] <Skwid_> skavenge: are you sure the server image is supposed to be a bootable one ?
[05:24] <gmoore> what are some media players for KDE? i installed kmplayer and it won't do anything, it just says xine not loaded
[05:24] <skavenge> Skwid_: all the install cds are how else would you run it? id double check your boot order is setup right in the bios as well
[05:24] <deimos_> yup
[05:25] <Skwid_> skavenge: i did
[05:25] <ssmith> How do I get firefox to run windows media files?  Is it better to use Gstreamer or Xine?
[05:25] <Tonren> hey, anyone gotten quicktime to work in firefox?
[05:25] <madewokherd> gmoore: I hear amarok is pretty ok
[05:25] <skavenge> gmoore: amarok is the best imo
[05:25] <Tonren> gmoore: Have you tried the default, Rhythmbox?
[05:25] <gmoore> not yet... ill try them in a moment
[05:25] <skavenge> rhythmbox is default for gnome
[05:26] <Tonren> gmoore: amaroK is pretty bloated, but good.  Try Rhythmbox first - it's smaller and more agile with some nice features.
[05:26] <gmoore> wait, is that for audio or video? i'm talking about video
[05:26] <madewokherd> rhythmbox isn't kde
[05:26] <madewokherd> and it's also not very good
[05:26] <Tonren> Sorry, missed the KDE part
[05:26] <element> deimos_: how can I search for a package?
[05:26] <Tonren> madewokherd: At first I hated it because it was so underfeatured, but it's really not so bad at all.  It's very lightweight and simple.
[05:26] <advant_> Something I'm trying to install with apt-get requires libssl0.9.7 and I have 0.9.8, how can I get around this?
[05:26] <skavenge> gmoore: for video try kaffiene
[05:27] <deimos_> element: first press the reload button and then you have the search button. in synaptic that is
[05:27] <element> deimos_: ah ok cool thanks
[05:28] <gmoore> jesus everything i try is broken
[05:28] <StuckMojo> nevermind, im an idiot. i was trying to play an avi in xmms
[05:28] <gmoore> "Loading of player part kaffeinepart failed"
[05:28] <StuckMojo> doh!
[05:29] <Skwid_> what is the alternate cd ?
[05:29] <squidgy> Hi.  Would someone who has Xgl/Compiz running smoothly report the output of running 'glxinfo | grep render'?  Thanks.
[05:29] <[Ex0r] > anyone here having problems with freecontribs.org/ubuntu/dapper/ repo ?
[05:29] <Desh> If I want to unmount an iso image I mounted to a directory such as media/iso, would I (a) sudo umount <iso dir>   or (b) sudo umount /media/iso
[05:30] <madewokherd> I think either one should work
[05:30] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to make a shortcut to a program that is not in the Keyboard Shortcuts section?
[05:30] <deimos_> squidgy: OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X300 Generic
[05:30] <Hyper> hmm ld doesnt come with crtl.o ??? where can i get this ?
[05:30] <squidgy> [Ex0r] : yes
[05:30] <Desh> Ok thanks, madewokherd.
[05:30] <Hyper> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[05:30] <squidgy> deimos_:  thanks.  Does it report 'direct rendering: Yes' or 'direct rendering: No
[05:31] <Desh> How do I make a partition that I added to fstab allow me to mount it? Everytime I click on it under system:/media it says only root can mount it.
[05:31] <deimos_> squidgy: direct rendering: Yes
[05:31] <wheels3572> Desh:  Precisely what are you trying to do?  Making a partition or mounting it?
[05:32] <heretician> I have a problem with EasyUbuntu; it is installing the jre before it installs the bins and furthermore is giving me an error that I need the bin files
[05:32] <jamesstansell> !monodevelop
[05:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about monodevelop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:32] <Skwid_> skavenge: what's the alternate CD ?
[05:32] <Desh> wheels3572: I have a partition that I will install XP on, hda3, now this partition was originally recognized by buntu, not added to fstab, so I added it and told it to mount to /media/hda3, but it won't auto mount and it says that only root can mount it.
[05:33] <Hyper> !crtl.o
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about crtl.o - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:33] <skavenge> Skwid_: text install, used for people that have trouble with the livecd or dont have the sys reqs to run the livecd etc
[05:33] <Tonren> !windowmaker
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about windowmaker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:33] <Skwid_> oh ok
[05:33] <Tonren> Hey guys, how does WindowMaker work?
[05:34] <Tonren> Does it replace GNOME?
[05:34] <mikeyj> thanks, I'll check it out
[05:34] <skavenge> theres some other stuff it will do to, raid installs, installing grub somewhere other than the mbr, etc .. all its attributes are listed on ubuntu's download page
[05:35] <wheels3572> Desh:  Check that link I just sent you
[05:35] <skavenge> Tonren: highly doubt it replaces it, when you login you'll have an option under 'session' on the login screen which WM to run .. thats how most window manager installs work over the top of gnome at least
[05:36] <Desh> wheels3572: in a pm?
[05:36] <wheels3572> Desh:  Yes
[05:36] <Desh> resend please
[05:36] <Desh> I was not recognized.
[05:36] <mikeyj> maybe a more generic question, what is the default package format for ubuntu? deb?
[05:36] <Tonren> Skaven: Hmm.. it says it "works with GNOME".
[05:36] <wheels3572> Desh:  Sent
[05:37] <skavenge> Tonren: the forums or wiki are likely to have something on it that may explain it better
[05:38] <Hyper> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory     hmm ld doesnt come with crtl.o ??? where can i get this ? what package has it ?
[05:38] <Eclipse_GSX> how do i use irc on dapper?
[05:38] <deimos_> Eclipse_GSX: xchat
[05:38] <Madpilot> Eclipse_GSX, install XChat from Add/Remove Apps
[05:38] <crimsun> Hyper: what are you attempting to do?
[05:39] <Hyper> crimsun,  compile a ircd. unreal 3.2.5
[05:39] <Eclipse_GSX> ahhh thank you guys
[05:39] <Eclipse_GSX> just installed it...and im a lil confused
[05:39] <Hyper> Eclipse_GSX, type xchat from a terminal
[05:40] <Whil> how would i change my kubuntu to ubuntu?
[05:40] <Eclipse_GSX> lol i mean i just installed ubuntu and i was confused...lol
[05:40] <crimsun> Hyper: no you have libncurses5-dev installed?
[05:40] <Whil> without reinstalling the whole thing?
[05:40] <mikeymike-linux> Eclipse_GSX, wtf u doing in here
[05:40] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[05:40] <crimsun> Hyper: s/no/do/
[05:40] <Eclipse_GSX> lol what do u mean...
[05:41] <mikeymike-linux> Eclipse_GSX, im a dsmer too
[05:41] <Eclipse_GSX> xp machine...lawl
[05:41] <Eclipse_GSX> holla
[05:41] <mikeymike-linux> im in irc.dsm.org
[05:41] <deimos_> Whil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205002
[05:41] <mikeymike-linux> #dsm
[05:41] <Hyper> no i dont i will do shortly. thanks alot man
[05:41] <Eclipse_GSX> mikeymike-linux sweet
[05:41] <mikeymike-linux> Eclipse_GSX, join our channel its full of leet only
[05:41] <Eclipse_GSX> NOICE
[05:41] <Eclipse_GSX> lawl
[05:41] <Eclipse_GSX> ight
[05:42] <wheels3572> Ok question again:  Can I make a Keyboard shortcut if it's not in the list under Keyboard Shortcuts?
[05:42] <Whil> deimos_: thanks
[05:42] <Hyper> crimsun, all working now. thanks alot :)
[05:42] <fivre> is there any quick n' dirty, but powerful image manipulator a la InfranView for linux?
[05:43] <deimos_> :)
[05:43] <Eclipse_GSX> mikeymike-linux is this a server that requiers identd by ip? cause if it is...imma have a prob...
[05:43] <Whil> gwenview?
[05:43] <mikeymike-linux> Eclipse_GSX, i dont know
[05:43] <mikeymike-linux> thats nuts a dsmer in here
[05:43] <Eclipse_GSX> yeyeah
[05:43] <mikeymike-linux> be warned they're real assholes in #dsm
[05:43] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[05:43] <Eclipse_GSX> lol ok
[05:44] <mikeymike-linux> irc.dsm.org
[05:44] <Eclipse_GSX> u ever on dsmtalk?
[05:44] <mikeymike-linux> its a secret dont go spreading it
[05:44] <mikeymike-linux> nah
[05:44] <mikeymike-linux> those forums are all full of dumb ppl
[05:44] <Eclipse_GSX> lol ok
[05:44] <mikeymike-linux> you know what NABR is?
[05:44] <[Ex0r] > bed time!
[05:44] <Eclipse_GSX> yea i know...i was on it back in the day
[05:44] <mikeymike-linux> the guy who RUNS IT
[05:44] <Eclipse_GSX> like 2001
[05:44] <mikeymike-linux> is a regular in #dsm
[05:44] <Eclipse_GSX> sweet
[05:44] <mikeymike-linux> shearer and plebani used to join all the time
[05:44] <mikeymike-linux> and the creator of the vfaq stengl used to also
[05:44] <Eclipse_GSX> ight imma get off remote to my desktop and connect on my laptop
[05:44] <mikeymike-linux> shep used to also
[05:45] <mikeymike-linux> a friend of sheps is in there right now
[05:45] <Eclipse_GSX> shep is a bad ass
[05:45] <mikeymike-linux> he talks to him all the time
[05:45] <mikeymike-linux> we get all the leet infoz
[05:45] <Eclipse_GSX> ight gimme a sec
[05:45] <mikeymike-linux> werd
[05:45] <jollyroger> anyone want to help a n00b install dapper drake from a live cd
[05:46] <jollyroger> i keep getting error messages
[05:46] <someothernick> what error?
[05:46] <jollyroger> can't find rsdp
[05:46] <mikeyj> thanks
[05:46] <mikeyj> seeyall later
[05:46] <david__> i am trying to hook the site i own up to my computer only... currently i am going through IXWebhosting... the plan is to make it so I can run my site off of my own computer, make my computer the server for it... i have already installed apache, what else do i have to do... i am so lost right now :(
[05:47] <Magnus-swe> Coldfyre is dead:
[05:47] <Magnus-swe> c-67-161-28-185.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
[05:47] <ColdFyre> ...
[05:47] <Magnus-swe> Also whack beu of gentoo... what a little kiddie
[05:48] <Magnus-swe> Die bitch
[05:48] <Magnus-swe> ColdFyre: you dont code for shit and judge me ?
[05:48] <Madpilot> Magnus-swe, take the offtopic stuff elsewhere, OK?
[05:48] <Magnus-swe> Madpilot, kick ColdFyre NOW
[05:48] <ColdFyre> if anyone knows what Magnus-swe is talking about do fill me in
[05:49] <jollyroger> how fast of a cd drive do you need because i bought a computer from my friend and it is still running win95
[05:49] <Magnus-swe> Fuck off monkeyfire
[05:49] <StuckMojo> oooh feel the love
[05:49] <Magnus-swe> madpilot, now!!!!
[05:49] <david__> could anybody help me with running my site on my own computer, starting my own server?
[05:49] <ColdFyre> ./ignore Magnus-swe
[05:49] <Whil> such language
[05:49] <Magnus-swe> Or trolltech has won!
[05:49] <Madpilot> Magnus-swe, I'm a lot closer to kicking you than I am anyone else, tbh
[05:49] <Alethes> I feel like I just joined #myspace_teenieboppers
[05:49] <richiefrich> where the /ban
[05:50] <Magnus-swe> FUCK OFF THEN, SORRY FOR CODING FOR YOU ... MORONS!
[05:50] <Eclipse_GSX> lol
[05:50] <StuckMojo> temper temper
[05:50] <david__> jeez... temper temper :)
[05:50] <StuckMojo> hope he doesn't code angry
[05:50] <ColdFyre> he msged in pm out of nowhere earlier
 Do you like the group "Tool" ?
 Do you like Dalnet ?
[05:50] <richiefrich> err u just banned that nick
[05:51] <fdsd> is there a way in linux or bash to monitor a files size instead of doing ls -l a million times?
[05:51] <Madpilot> richiefrich, yes, I know
[05:51] <mister_roboto> fdsd: u  waiting for an ftp to finish or something?
[05:51] <fdsd> mister_roboto, dd
[05:52] <fdsd> mister_roboto, waiting for it do image a 250gb drive:)
[05:52] <richiefrich> Madpilot .. err ok..   i was just  lettin u know.. just incase :P
[05:52] <mister_roboto> fdsd: while true; do ls -l; sleep 5; done   ?   :)
[05:52] <nosklo> fdsd, try running: watch du -h filename
[05:52] <Co_roxas> rgg
[05:53] <mister_roboto> cool, i never knew about the "watch" program. always just coded a loop :)
[05:53] <jollyroger> does anyone know what "Unable to locate RSDP" means?
[05:53] <david__> anybody here running there own server for their site? i just want someone to tell me what comes after installing apache if possible... i own a site and i want to run it on my own computer... can anybody help?
[05:54] <picket> !lamp
[05:54] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:54] <mister_roboto> jollyroger: lol    i googled for that exact string and a ton of results came back
[05:54] <jollyroger> so how do i fix it it's right at the install phase
[05:54] <david__> if thats for me, thanks, ill give it a shot
[05:54] <fdsd> mister_roboto, could you do that same command with it alternating ls -l and ls -lh every 5 seconds?
[05:55] <heretician> ergh, how do you uninstall a package via terminal?
[05:55] <heretician> so many apts so little time
[05:55] <nosklo> fdsd, use watch
[05:55] <nosklo> fdsd, try running: watch du -h filename
[05:55] <david__> heretician: sudo apt-get remove program... i think
[05:55] <mister_roboto> fdsd: sure!   while true; do ls -l; sleep 5; ls -lh; sleep 5; done      :D
[05:55] <heretician> alrighty david__
[05:56] <fdsd> mister_roboto, awesome
[05:56] <mister_roboto> fdsd: lol
[05:56] <someothernick> jollyroger: have you run check cd, to check for errors?
[05:56] <fdsd> mister_roboto, i was sitting there manually doing that:)
[05:56] <fdsd> nosklo, thanks for that too!
[05:56] <jollyroger> no not yet but good idea i will try that thanks
[05:57] <someothernick> jollyroger: if the cd checks out ok try to turn acpi off
[05:57] <jollyroger> ok will do
[05:58] <jollyroger> ran the cd check and it started the uncompressing kernal part then the same error message
[06:00] <jamesstansell> !rsdp
[06:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about rsdp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:00] <jollyroger> ok
[06:01] <[Phenom] > When I'm installing Ubuntu, I'm getting "[4294879.952000]  Buffer I/o error on device hdb, logical block 9061" and so on for a while :|
[06:03] <jollyroger> yeah nothing on  http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu but thanks anyway
[06:04] <frogzoo> [Phenom] : any chance the disk is bad? maybe try to reformat?
[06:04] <[Phenom] > I have reformatted and I think the disk is fine
[06:05] <taigeR> when i try to play mp3 files, i get an error message
[06:05] <taigeR> Couldn't open auido
[06:05] <frogzoo> phed_: checked your cables? power supply?
[06:05] <jollyroger> where do i turn acpi off at
[06:05] <taigeR> please check that your soundcard is configured properly....
[06:05] <[Phenom] > sound
[06:05] <taigeR> anybody know how to fix that?
[06:05] <Healot> taigeR
[06:05] <skavenge> [Phenom] : is /dev/hdb your harddisk or cd drive?
[06:06] <Healot> !mp3
[06:06] <Laney> np:
[06:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:06] <taigeR> Healot: yes
[06:06] <[Phenom] > /dev/hdc is my harddrive
[06:06] <[Phenom] > hdb must be my cd drive
[06:06] <[Phenom] > hmm
[06:06] <[Phenom] > I'll switch CD drives
[06:06] <[Phenom] > and see what happens
[06:06] <skavenge> good idea
[06:07] <skavenge> it doesnt like that one for some reason, bad drive or bad driver for the drive, something
[06:07] <jollyroger> Where do i turn acpi off at
[06:07] <[Phenom] > Sound options, jollyroger
[06:07] <skavenge> other wise you can try booting with ide=nodma in grub
[06:07] <jollyroger> ok
[06:07] <jollyroger> thanks
[06:08] <taigeR> actually: this is the exact error i get: ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such device
[06:08] <frogzoo> jollyroger: boot with 'linux acpi=off'
[06:08] <godtvisken> How come say when I just played a video in youtube and then I open a music player I hear no sound in the music player, but the sound on youtube still works?
[06:08] <taigeR> was all working before upgrade to 6.06
[06:08] <jollyroger> where do i input that
[06:08] <frogzoo> godtvisken: breezy?
[06:08] <godtvisken> frogzoo: dapper
[06:09] <frogzoo> godtvisken: did you turn esd off?
[06:09] <fivre> Hmm... Firefox is curiously missing the "Copy Image" command usually in the context menu, anybody know why?
[06:09] <jamesstansell> jollyroger: at the boot prompt
[06:09] <jollyroger> should i try booting from dos
[06:09] <someothernick> jollyroger: first screen. press f6
[06:09] <jollyroger> ok
[06:09] <godtvisken> frogzoo: no, what is that?
[06:10] <Healot> f6? sounds like installing a new HAL in windows XP/server 2003
[06:10] <sepehre> hi, what is the KDE first time user config. wizard called? can I run it again? :)
[06:11] <jollyroger> so just add acpi=off in with the rest of the command string
[06:11] <frogzoo> godtvisken: system -> preferences -> sound -  check esd is selected
[06:11] <godtvisken> frogzoo: yes, it was. so unselect it?
[06:12] <frogzoo> godtvisken: no - esd selected should work
[06:12] <godtvisken> frogzoo: oh
[06:12] <godtvisken> frogzoo: well it is selected.. hm
[06:12] <jollyroger> so far so good
[06:12] <frogzoo> godtvisken: does you sound card support h/w mixing?
[06:12] <Alethes> sepehre:  kpersonalizer
[06:12] <sepehre> hmm thanks
[06:12] <godtvisken> frogzoo: what is h/w?
[06:13] <MystaMax> hello, i've inserted a Windows Vista DVD (udf), it mounts correctly, but cannot read the contents of the disc. Anyone know why?
[06:13] <Meatwad> anyone know how to install gstreamer, or some other way to get  soundjuicer to encode in mp3 format?
[06:14] <skavenge> Meatwad: pretty sure the instructions are under 'cd ripping' on the ubuntu wiki
[06:15] <jollyroger> now i'm stuck on the ubuntu graphic with a little line under it
[06:15] <Meatwad> skavenge:  thanks
[06:15] <Healot> MystaMax: because the stock kernel only have the ability to read iso9660 format only?
[06:15] <jollyroger> i think my cd drive is just shit and need a new one
[06:16] <Desh> since when did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg get a GUI!?
[06:16] <Healot> since 6.06 and xorg 7.0?
[06:16] <jollyroger> about how long does a dapper install take
[06:16] <jollyroger> ?
[06:16] <Desh> Healot: o_O I did it a few days ago and it was still that blue screen.
[06:17] <godtvisken> Does Dapper use ALSA by default?
[06:17] <MystaMax> Healot, how can I double check that?
[06:17] <Healot> read the info about the linux kernel itself?
[06:17] <Healot> but, you can add/compile the udf reader for linux kernel
[06:18] <Healot> by recompiling the module or the kernel package itself?
[06:18] <Desh> Can anyone tell me why I get this when I use apt-get or open up files from Konsole? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18133
[06:18] <Lord-ChewY> i am having trouble with cedega
[06:18] <Lord-ChewY> it crashes when it loads
[06:18] <Lord-ChewY> anyone know what i can do? from the console i get "ZeroDivisionError: float division"
[06:19] <jollyroger> what do i do at the "Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel."  screen
[06:19] <Healot> wait until the installer loads the install option screen, jollyroger
[06:19] <jollyroger> it already did that once then it came back up
[06:20] <jamesstansell> jollyroger: this thread may be of interest to you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189190&highlight=%22Unable+locate+RSDP%22
[06:20] <jollyroger> thank you
[06:20] <frogzoo> godtvisken: not always - makes sure your apps are config'd to use alsa, not oss
[06:21] <pppoe_dude> anyway to make gtk apps prettier in fluxbox?
[06:21] <Healot> give em a make over? hehe
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> lol
[06:22] <jamesstansell> desh: looks like a keyboard or mouse error?
[06:22] <olrrai_1> any downloader as flashget to split the file into simultaneus donload ?
[06:23] <Healot> olrrai, wget can do mirroring... it needs some typing though
[06:24] <olrrai> wget has GTK
[06:24] <olrrai> ?
[06:24] <olrrai> wget has graphic interface?
[06:25] <Healot> no, that's why it requires typing
[06:25] <Xtremer> hey
[06:25] <olrrai> another for my family to do it easy?
[06:25] <Xtremer> i need some help with GRUB and windows xp...
[06:25] <Healot> you can find a lot of its frontends though, by simply searching @ sourceforge.net
[06:26] <jollyroger> about how long should it take to install
[06:26] <Denyerec> Anyone here ever used mod-umask for Apache2 and can point me in the direction of *any* resources on how to get it working? I can't find a damn thing.
[06:26] <Xtremer> do you know if its possible to reinstall grub after doing a fixmbr from a windows disk? I don't want to have to reinstall ubuntu..
[06:26] <Healot> jollyroger: ithat depends on your CPU ?
[06:27] <frogzoo> jollyroger: 20mins - depends a lot on your cd
[06:27] <jollyroger> really shitty pentium II
[06:27] <jollyroger> even shittier cd rom
[06:27] <Healot> on my 64-bit 2800+ with 512MB RAM, and a 8MB 7200RPM harddrive...
[06:27] <Denyerec> All I wish to do is change the umask my apache service is running with... Any advice GREATFULLY accepted. I'm pulling out what hair I have left :/
[06:27] <frogzoo> jollyroger: & low mem I'm guessing - best pull out a good book ;)
[06:27] <Healot> around 15-19 minutes, for my typical custom setup
[06:28] <jollyroger> should i see any text under the unbuntu logo
[06:28] <Warbo> Xtremer: It should be fine
[06:28] <Mau> does anyone ever played classic doom (1,2 TNT etc) on llinux?
[06:28] <jjross> Xtremer, it is possible ,search the forum there is a post or how about that issue
[06:29] <Xtremer> ah is there? alright thanks i'll take a look
[06:29] <Warbo> Mau: You can use PrBoom for a "classic" DOOM engine (you must give it your "WAD" files from your CDROMs) or Doomsday for a 3D, cool looking engine
[06:29] <jjross> Xtremer, its been a while since ive seen it but it was a pretty common prolem for a while , it is not to hard to do
[06:29] <Mau> Warbo, well prdoom doesnt works good here...
[06:30] <frogzoo> Mau: http://www.doomsdayhq.com/
[06:30] <Mau> frogzoo, doomsday works without open gl?
[06:30] <Warbo> Mau: I like Doomsday, but the Dapper repository doesn't contain all of the add-ons like the Breezy one did
[06:30] <Warbo> Mau: Are you sure you gave it your WADs right?
[06:31] <Xtremer> jjross: Alright, i'll try looking it up. If I can't find it I'll just come back over here I suppose. Thanks
[06:31] <[Phenom] > My install has been booting the kernel for over 15 minutes now :|
[06:31] <[Phenom] > is tht normal?
[06:31] <jjross> Xtremer, ok , good luck
[06:31] <Mau> warbo, yes!
[06:31] <jollyroger> they told me up to 20 mins or more
[06:31] <jollyroger> |Phenom|
[06:32] <Warbo> [Phenom] : Only if your computer is powered by a hamster wheel
[06:32] <Mau> warbo, im sure about that...,i tryed legacy and dont go...prboom the screen appear windowed and smal..
[06:32] <[Phenom] > hmm, it isn't/
[06:32] <sepehre> hi again, is there a single apt-get package name for me to install xfce on ubuntu?
[06:32] <TheWahbinator> xfce4
[06:32] <Warbo> Mau: Maybe try the shareware WAD to see if that works (sets itself up automatically, so you know that it is a bug if it fails). The package is "freedoom" I think
[06:32] <TheWahbinator> or
[06:33] <TheWahbinator> xubuntu-desktop (will change your usplash theme though)
[06:33] <Warbo> xubuntu-desktop
[06:33] <frogzoo> Mau: don't know, it's been a while
[06:33] <Mau> Warbo, yes i tryed...the shareware in prboom...it works well, but smal, windowed 320x200 pixels
[06:33] <sepehre> that's what I was afraid of, someone else suggested xubuntu-desktop, I'll try xfce4 first ;)
[06:33] <Scrippie> dunno
[06:34] <olrrai> any downloader as flashget to split the file into simultaneus donload ?
[06:34] <skavenge> Mau: it has command line variables, -vertical -width or something you can set to whatever you want
[06:34] <skavenge> try prboom --help or man prboom
[06:34] <Warbo> Mau: Try the options either in the program or on the command line (I think the option "-2" doubles the size). You can always use ctrl-alt-+ to zoom in X
[06:34] <Cntryboy> how can I delete a file in /user/bin/ with command?
[06:34] <Mau> yes...the width grows...but heigh dont
[06:35] <Mau> hunm
[06:35] <skavenge> works here
[06:35] <Warbo> Cntryboy: Well, 1) It is /usr, 2) Use "sudo rm filename", 3) What did you screw up?
[06:35] <Mau> warbo, i liked this tip! ctrl+alt etc
[06:35] <element> what's the easiest way to setup dual-DVI LCD monitors?
[06:35] <Mau> let me try it
[06:35] <frogzoo> Cntryboy: why do you want to do that?
[06:35] <Warbo> Mau: + has to be used on the NumPad
[06:35] <Cntryboy> i know its usr im tired
[06:36] <Denyerec> All I wish to do is change the umask my apache service is running with... Any advice GREATFULLY accepted. I'm pulling out what hair I have left :/
[06:36] <Cntryboy> I didn't screw up nothing, I just forgot a simple command lol
[06:36] <Warbo> Cntryboy: If nothing is screwed up then why delete system files?
[06:36] <Cntryboy> I wrote a script and placed in there
[06:37] <Warbo> Cntryboy: Always use /usr/local.
[06:37] <Cntryboy> im tired/stoned and spacy
[06:37] <Cntryboy> :(
[06:37] <jamesstansell> Denyerec: are you familiar with the apache configuration file?  (I'm blanking on the name now)
[06:37] <skorm> http.conf?
[06:37] <skorm> apache2.conf
[06:37] <Denyerec> I've added umask 002 to the envvars
[06:37] <Denyerec> it didn't "take"
[06:37] <jiSh> grr, i still cant good speeds with any torrent
[06:37] <[Phenom] > why does my install stay on "Uncompressing Linux..... Ok, booting the kernel"?
[06:37] <frogzoo> Cntryboy: if you can't remove files in /usr, you shouldn't be putting stuff in there in the 1st place - 'sudo rm' will work
[06:37] <Cntryboy> warbo: why does it matter
[06:38] <mister_roboto> Denyerec: can you just change it in the script that starts apache?  put a uname command there before it starts the apache process?
[06:38] <Denyerec> yeah I was looking at the init.d script
[06:38] <Warbo> Cntryboy: Keeps custom stuff from system stuff
[06:38] <Denyerec> but I couldn't figure it out
[06:38] <Denyerec> <-- newbie
[06:38] <element> anyone know?
[06:38] <Mau> warbo, what do u think about lsdoom
[06:38] <Cntryboy> frogzoo: ????
[06:38] <Mau> warbo, what do u think about lxoom?
[06:38] <Warbo> Mau: Never tried it
[06:38] <Cntryboy> warbo: its not custom
[06:38] <frogzoo> Cntryboy: best if you just leave it to apt to manage /usr
[06:38] <Cntryboy> warbo: script for xgl
[06:38] <Madpilot> [Phenom] , because that's what it's doing? (actually, I'm not exactly sure what that means either...)
[06:38] <Warbo> Cntryboy: If you added it yourself then it is custom, isn't it?
[06:38] <mister_roboto> Denyerec: does that mean you don't know shell scripting at all?  you would do it in the "start" section
[06:38] <jiSh> router settings are fine (ports opened), static ip address set in ubuntu, firestarter is turned OFF, so why cant i get any good speed in torrents (tried MANY many diff ones with different amounts of seeders/leechers, leave it on overnight, it has average of 10kbps)
[06:39] <[Phenom] > ;(
[06:39] <Denyerec> I know very little of anything
[06:39] <Cntryboy> I guess but im too stoned to get belittled from everyone.
[06:39] <Denyerec> The init.d for apache is scary
[06:39] <frogzoo> jiSh: ports opened on router, but not forwarded to puter
[06:39] <jiSh> what do ya mean
[06:39] <mister_roboto> Denyerec: why are you trying to do that then? i'm just curious
[06:39] <Mau> warbo, ok....actualy,this was the engine that works in window mode...not prboom. prboom doesnt works here
[06:39] <Denyerec> APACHE2="$ENV /usr/sbin/apache2"
[06:39] <Denyerec> APACHE2CTL="$ENV /usr/sbin/apache2ctl"
[06:39] <Warbo> [Phenom] : Maybe your Initrd is screwed. The kernel is uncompressed then run, and then the initrd is extracted to RAM so the system can boot
[06:39] <Denyerec> Ah
[06:40] <Denyerec> well I've installed a CMS system and the scripts, running as www-data under apache2, are generating cache files
[06:40] <Denyerec> They're all being generated with rw-r--r-- perms
[06:40] <Denyerec> and I need them as rw-rw-r--
[06:40] <[Phenom] > ah
[06:40] <Denyerec> So I figure I need to change the umask for apache2
[06:40] <Warbo> !enter
[06:40] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:40] <frogzoo> Cntryboy: we're not trying to patronise you - just there are some things you can do that will bork your system if you're not an expert
[06:40] <Warbo> [Phenom] : Did you say this was on the CD or on an installation?
[06:40] <skorm> hehehe
[06:41] <[Phenom] > CD installation
[06:41] <jiSh> frogzoo: what exactly do you mean "fowarded to computer". the ports are opened, and set for the static ip of 192.168.0.101, which is assigned to my computer in my ubuntu netowkr settings as well
[06:41] <Denyerec> So that apache's file creation mode is rw-rw-r-- or rwxrwxr--   Now someone suggested mod_umask but there is precisely NO documentation for this anywhere so I couldn't get anywhere with it.
[06:41] <jamesstansell> Denyerec: the CMS may have a configuration option; that would probably be better than a system-wide change
[06:41] <skorm> Who wants to help me setup my ubuntu ircd/http server as a shell provider?
[06:41] <Warbo> [Phenom] : I meant are you booting from the CD or from your hard drive?
[06:41] <Denyerec> jamesstansell I've tried and failled to find it. That was the 1st thing I tried.
[06:41] <Warbo> (your statement seemed to imply both :) )
[06:41] <[Phenom] > CD
[06:41] <jamesstansell> which CMS is it?
[06:41] <Denyerec> Typo3
[06:42] <Denyerec> Damn thing has an option for just about everything else! :)
[06:42] <frogzoo> jiSh: & did you configure those ports on your bt client?
[06:42] <jiSh> yes
[06:42] <scabootssca> how do i add my windows harddrive to grub? i've seen the wiki posting cause when i try to change the path to it hdb dosnt work does anyone know why?
[06:42] <Oni-Dracula> jiSh, an explaination of port forwarding is basically your router does not show each computer connected to it on the internet, therefore the router must forward port requests to specific computers on the network
[06:42] <Warbo> [Phenom] : OK, that is pretty bad then, since there is no normal GRUB boot screen on the CD (so you can't fiddle with the config)
[06:42] <PORDO> DOES UBUntu use a condorcet voting method for choosing things?
[06:42] <Zambezi> Which is the best torrentclient with configurationspossiblies?
[06:42] <skorm> jiSh, some routers/modems, can't handle alot of connections, because of there smmall amnount of cpu/memory
[06:43] <[Phenom] > :|
[06:43] <mister_roboto> Denyerec: isn't apache2ctl the program to run when it's getting started?  you could always throw an "echo i am here" in there to see where it's running.   hmmmm mod_umask sounds like just the ticket if you can figure it out!  ;)
[06:43] <jiSh> alright. so how do i accomplish this?
[06:43] <rpedro> Zambezi: Azureus
[06:43] <jiSh> i have the di-524 router, if its any help
[06:43] <Denyerec> mister_roboto  there isn't even a readme in the tar.bz2 file :(
[06:43] <mister_roboto> Denyerec: I don't have it installed and am no expert at it so don't want to waste ur time :)
[06:43] <skorm> hmm, I now dlinks are bad for doing it
[06:43] <Hyper> is there any apps i can use in ubuntu to encrypt some text into md5 ?
[06:43] <Desh> Does anyone know why I would get this error in the terminal: DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.
[06:44] <Denyerec> I tried compilling it but it failed on something
[06:44] <skorm> Treid other programs
[06:44] <Denyerec> So I tried to install the apache2 devel. libs
[06:44] <Warbo> jiSh: Do you know your router's IP address?
[06:44] <skorm> limit the connections out
[06:44] <Denyerec> 1) Couldn't find them
[06:44] <jiSh> Warbo: it's the default. 192.168.0.1
[06:44] <Denyerec> 2) When I found some prefork thing, install asked me for my Ubuntu CD?!??!
[06:44] <jiSh> it's what i use to login to change port settings
[06:44] <Denyerec> configure: error: *** The apxs binary installed by apache could not be found!
[06:44] <[Phenom] > Warbo, so what could I do?
[06:44] <Warbo> Denyerec: Could you try to put more on each line please? It can be annoying for people who are not invlved in your problem, thanks :)
[06:45] <skorm> jiSh: can you explain to me the proplem, i missed it, since i just joined xD
[06:45] <Denyerec> That was the error I got when running ./configure   on the downloaded mod_umask.
[06:45] <Zambezi> rpedro, But it's awful against the CPU.
[06:45] <mikeymike-linux> audio isn't working for me in you-tube anymore can anyone help me figure out why? it happened after i installed the wiin32codecs and totem-xine for firefox i think?
[06:45] <jamesstansell> Denyerec: this is promising, but I'm not sure it would apply to your cache files: http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2005-June/007410.html
[06:45] <mister_roboto> Denyerec: comment out the CD line at the beginning of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:45] <Hyper> ?
[06:45] <Denyerec> Sorry Warbo it's 5:45am and I'm not exactly putting a great deal of effort into my sentences. I'll try harder.
[06:45] <Warbo> jiSh: So you have already forwarded the ports? OK (Don't know why I'm trying to help really, I can't set up port forwarding on my own router :) )
[06:46] <jiSh> skorm: Ports opened on router, configured in torrent client, static ip on machine. can't maintain torrent speed of more than 10kbps with multiple torrents and clients
[06:46] <Desh> !vbox
[06:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about vbox - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:46] <Warbo> jiSh: Maybe your ISP doesn't like torrents?
[06:46] <skorm> does the internet, freeze or stop working while you are connected to a torrent
[06:46] <Desh> !vboxlayout
[06:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about vboxlayout - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:46] <Schalken> how do i erase a cd-rw in ubuntu?
[06:47] <Warbo> Schalken: Gnomebaker is probably the best way
[06:47] <jiSh> Warbo: maybe, but I'm using random ports, not in the 6k range. also, i have hasd very good speeds both in windows and linux in the past
[06:47] <Desh> :( WHat is this VBoxLayout message: DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.
[06:47] <skorm> also, open up your torrent program, and go to www.canyouseeme.org and test the ports
[06:47] <Hyper> is there any apps i can use in ubuntu to encrypt some text into md5 ?
[06:47] <Mau> warbo, i needed to reboot my sistem because prboom rs...
[06:47] <jiSh> skorm: the internet works fine, and i will check that site
[06:47] <skorm> hmm
[06:48] <Warbo> Mau: If you get stuck out of X then usually you can kill the process from a console (ctrl-alt-f1)
[06:48] <Schalken> Warbo: thanks!
[06:48] <jiSh> skorm: the site says it can see me
[06:48] <mathiaz> Hi all ! I'm trying to install mplayer 32bits on my amd64 and looking for the file mplayer32_1.0pre7-1_amd64.deb. Does anyone has it ? (the host is currently down :( )
[06:48] <Mau> warbo! yes ! i did that...i dend a killall prboom...doesnt work
[06:48] <skorm> jiSh: I don't think there's any reason for the low speeds, can't help you here :(, treid you client config?
[06:48] <Warbo> Mau: Try "killall -s KILL prboom"
[06:48] <Mau> warbo, total crash
[06:48] <Schalken> mathiaz: wouldnt that deb have mplayer 64bits in it?
[06:48] <Denyerec> That gets me part way there with the default Typo3 behaviour, but there's still some stuff being created by a script that would benefit from the umask :/
[06:49] <scabootssca> how do i add my windows harddrive to grub? i've seen the wiki posting cause when i try to change the path to it hdb dosnt work does anyone know why?
[06:49] <jiSh> skorm: I can't see any problems either. ive tried many diff clients with diff configs and nothing will work any more. this is very strange :(
[06:49] <thomas_> q: i installed ubuntu with a -686 kernel but updates manager tried to make me download -386 kernel update, any idea why? (hi!)
[06:49] <Mau> warbo, hunm.... i tried killall prboom and kill pid pf prboom only...i liked this tip too
[06:49] <mathiaz> Schalken: nope - I'm looking for the 32 bits version
[06:49] <eugman> How do i get tahoma.ttf
[06:49] <Meatwad> how can i make a folder icon display album art?
[06:49] <Desh> What is VBox?
[06:50] <Warbo> scabootssca: GRUB uses a different system for labelling harddrives. It calls them (hd0,0) (hd0,1) (hd1,0) like that
[06:50] <skorm> so who's up for the channelenge of turning my server into a shell server?
[06:50] <Jamo> is there any specific documentation on the way the ubuntu server CD set up apache2 with sites-available and sites-enabled???
[06:50] <rpedro> Zambezi: maybe try qtorrent , I haven't tried it since I'm quite satisfied with azureus
[06:50] <mathiaz> schalken: I'm following this how-to : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188974
[06:50] <scabootssca> ok so what would hdb1 be?
[06:50] <Warbo> Meatwad: Go on the folders properties, then click on the icon and choose a custom one (the album cover)
[06:50] <Mau> warbo, so i should try doomsday? it works without opengl??
[06:50] <timbobsteve> hey everyone
[06:50] <johanbr> mathiaz: I've put the version I had at http://nullinfinity.org/mplayer32_1.0pre6-1_amd64.deb .
[06:50] <rpedro> Zambezi: I mean Ktorrent
[06:51] <Warbo> Mau: I think that even without all of the fancy stuff it still usesOpenGL. I think something like "sdldoom" or something sounds familiar, maybe that exists?
[06:51] <frogzoo> what's the package with tux racer?
[06:51] <Zambezi> rpedro, I can try ktorrent. But I think I need to change port. Is that possible in ktorrent?
[06:51] <Warbo> ppracer
[06:51] <frogzoo> Warbo: ta m8
[06:51] <Meatwad> warbo: know of an app to get album covers? (i'm ripping with soundjuicer and managing with rhythmbox)
[06:51] <Warbo> frogzoo: They renamed it "Planet Penguin Racer" since the original creators tried to close the source, so it forked
[06:51] <sepehre> ok, I installed xubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu, how can I switch between them?
[06:51] <scabootssca> amarok
[06:51] <element> anyone have experience with the Treo650 here and ubuntu?
[06:52] <skorm> frogzoo: you can search all the packages using the package manager
[06:52] <rpedro> Zambezi: I think so...
[06:52] <Warbo> sepehre: Choose your session at the login screen
[06:52] <Zambezi> rpedro, Do you know how?
[06:52] <Desh> What is QT?
[06:52] <^THE_HAMMER^> hi
[06:52] <sepehre> oh that's it? :) xfce would give me everything there would be on xubuntu?
[06:52] <rpedro> Zambezi: are you using it right now?
[06:52] <scabootssca> warbo what would hdb1 be?
[06:52] <mister_roboto> scabootssca: hd1,0
[06:52] <Schalken> ^THE_HAMMER^: hi
[06:52] <scabootssca> ok thanks
[06:52] <^THE_HAMMER^> after apt-get install whats the command for the data update of apt-get install prog?
[06:53] <frogzoo> skorm: I know, after getting nowhere with apt-cache search, I asked
[06:53] <Warbo> Meatwad: Amarok will get them, then save them somewhere in ~/.kde/", so you could add your tracks, get the albums then never use it again (Banshee also does this, but I am less familiar with it)
[06:53] <Warbo> scabootssca: Probably (hd1,0)
[06:53] <sysKin> g'day
[06:53] <mathiaz> johanbr: thank you. I'll grab it and try to install it.
[06:53] <sysKin> I need an audio media player that can be made seek forward/backward with keyboard media keys, even if it's not focused. does anyone have any good ideas?
[06:53] <sepehre> Warbo, so why are there even different distibs of the same ubuntu, if one can easily install the different desktops on each other?
[06:54] <Denyerec> How'd you find out if you've got a package installed with apt-get without doing apt-get install X and seeing if it fails? :)
[06:54] <Adol> Has anyone experienced a folder changing to an "unknown file type?"
[06:54] <^THE_HAMMER^> i guess no one knows?
[06:54] <Sharjeel> uboto mp3
[06:54] <Warbo> sepehre: That is a good question. It is mainly a question of support. There are different teams working on each GUI, but they all contribute stuff to the core Ubuntu packages used by all
[06:54] <NickGarvey> how do I get the X header files?
[06:54] <Sharjeel> uboto avi
[06:55] <Sharjeel> :S
[06:55] <Hyper> is there any apps i can use in ubuntu to encrypt some text into md5 ?
[06:55] <Warbo> NickGarvey: Look for the "-dev" packages (If you are building source then auto-apt may help you)
[06:55] <Sharjeel> what happened to uboto guys?
[06:55] <^THE_HAMMER^> theres apt-get install program but whats the apt-get update data command for the prog?
[06:55] <Warbo> ubotu: avi
[06:55] <Zambezi> rpedro, Not right now, but I can if you ask me too. ;-)
[06:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:55] <Desh> :(!! What is Qt::VBoxLayout error: DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.
[06:55] <mister_roboto> Denyerec:  dpkg -L <pkgname>
[06:55] <Warbo> Sharjeel: What happened to your colon? (Hang on, that just sounds wrong :) )
[06:55] <NickGarvey> Warbo: autoapt?
[06:55] <Schalken> sysKin: you will need to make your media kays recognized first. have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[06:56] <NickGarvey> !info auto-apt
[06:56] <ubotu> auto-apt: package search by file and on-demand package installation tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.20 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 216 kB
[06:56] <sepehre> Warbo, very interesting, today's my first day on ubuntu :P and besides the common amd64 messy apps, the 32bit ubuntu is running better than any OS I've had.. Thanks a lot
[06:56] <Warbo> NickGarvey: It will run a "./configure" and try to install packages it looks for (don't get everything it asks for though, since many are just standard checks that don't matter yes or no)
[06:56] <^THE_HAMMER^> should try the 64bit ubuntu :)
[06:56] <^THE_HAMMER^> its nice to
[06:56] <Denyerec> Thanks man
[06:56] <Zambezi> rpedro, It crashes, I can't start ktorrent.
[06:56] <NickGarvey> Warbo: oooo....
[06:56] <sysKin> Schalken: that's my problem #1 unfortunately, media keys don't work for mediacity control (keybinding_command_1 etc)
[06:57] <NickGarvey> Warbo: how do I use the syntax for thaht?
[06:57] <Warbo> NickGarvey: I used it a while ago, but I did find a page for it on the Wiki
[06:57] <NickGarvey> !autoapt
[06:57] <mister_roboto> Denyerec: dpkg has a lot of useful options. check out the man page :)
[06:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about autoapt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:57] <NickGarvey> mm
[06:57] <sysKin> Schalken: but I'm starting with my #2 problem, finding media player that can be made seek remotely
[06:57] <skorm> no one's gonna take up my offer?
[06:58] <Warbo> skorm: I can't find your offer, could you repeat it?
[06:58] <StuckMojo> sysKin: mplayer
[06:58] <skorm> Make a shell server with me
[06:58] <skorm> on my server
[06:58] <Schalken> sysKin: oh okay then. h/o a sec.
[06:58] <skorm> using ubuntu of coarse
[06:58] <Warbo> skorm: Oh, I would have no idea about that anyway :)
[06:59] <skorm> and document changes made so we can make a mini tutorial
[06:59] <timbobsteve> skrom: is it for educational purposes?
[06:59] <skorm> yes :>
[06:59] <element> anyone here have a treo650 working on ubuntu?
[06:59] <timbobsteve> skorm: what services would you want to setup?
[06:59] <skorm> my idea's are free services, minus ports 6667
[06:59] <skorm> err, i have ssh
[07:00] <StuckMojo> sysKin: even though mplayer is a video player primarily, it plays audio just fine
[07:00] <skorm> I just want to know mainly, user creation and security
[07:00] <StuckMojo> sysKin: w/o bringing up a window
[07:00] <timbobsteve> skorm: ahhh. What about setting up a terminal-server using Xvnc?
[07:00] <StuckMojo> sysKin: and AFAIK it can be controller remotely
[07:00] <timbobsteve> that would be fun
[07:00] <Desh> :( Anyone know what this error means: /var/cache/debconf/config.da
[07:00] <sysKin> StuckMojo: ok I'll see how
[07:00] <skorm> possibly
[07:00] <Redrose> i'm running a console in gnome, and when i run a command with &, i can still use the console, but when i close out the console, i lose the program, how do i fux that?
[07:00] <StuckMojo> sysKin: but xmms can also AFAIK, thus it's gnome applets that control it
[07:00] <Desh> My bad, debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[07:00] <timbobsteve> Redrose: you can't
[07:01] <TheStonepedo> my installer is crashing when using the same CD i used to install before
[07:01] <timbobsteve> Redrose: thats the way the terminals work
[07:01] <skorm> I will be be back latter, if you want to help me, gimmie a pm
[07:01] <Warbo> Desh: Close any synaptic/update manager/aptitude/whatever else uses apt and try again
[07:01] <TheStonepedo> is there a way to do a network install rather than relying on the packages on the CD?
[07:01] <sysKin> StuckMojo: actually yeah, I saw applets that make it seek (something impossible for command line alone)
[07:01] <[Ex0r] > wow.. linux SUCKS for gaming
[07:01] <timbobsteve> Redrose: it is probably possible to run it as a different user that way it will stay open, but I know not how to do that ;)
[07:01] <jamesstansell> redrose: it might depend on the program, as well as the shell your console is using
[07:01] <[Ex0r] > !ati
[07:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:01] <nosklo> Redrose, the program you are running must detach completely from the console
[07:01] <sysKin> StuckMojo: now if only xmms supported smb:// shares... if not, I have to mount them as file system
[07:01] <Desh> Warbo: same thing
[07:02] <StuckMojo> sysKin: http://www.brunolinux.com/06-Fine_Tuning_Your_System/Multi_Media_Keys_in_Linux.html
[07:02] <Redrose> nessus &
[07:02] <timbobsteve> [Ex0r] : yes... it isn't quite up to scratch for gaming, thats for sure
[07:02] <Warbo> TheStonepedo: You could use debootstrap to install a basic system over the network then install ubuntu-desktop or whatever to get the rest of the stuff
[07:02] <nosklo> Redman276, you may achieve that redirecting all input and output or running you program into screen
[07:02] <StuckMojo> sysKin: mplayer does i think
[07:02] <nosklo> Redrose, you may achieve that redirecting all input and output or running you program into screen
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > I just downloaded an emulator and it's SLOW
[07:02] <jamesstansell> redrose: try putting nohup in front of your command
[07:02] <Desh> Warbo: What is this DbDriver? This came up after removing libperl-qt which gave me another error. >_<!
[07:02] <nosklo> Redman276, sorry
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > locked my computer up for 20 minutes
[07:02] <StuckMojo> sysKin: mplayer can play from ftp, http, just about anything
[07:02] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : What a suprise :)
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > could be because I don't have the updated graphics, but I doubt
[07:03] <Warbo> Desh: I don't know (DB=database maybe?)
[07:03] <TheStonepedo> Warbo: i reckon i'll restart and see if the thing will boot enough to do a terminal
[07:03] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Emulators go very slow, even of crappy systems
[07:03] <TheStonepedo> then if that doesn't work i may be back to get help from you
[07:03] <timbobsteve> [Ex0r]  are you running 3d support? that could be it... direct rendering may be off by default.. not sure tho
[07:03] <[Phenom] > why is my ubuntu install freezing when it boots from kernel :|
[07:03] <TheStonepedo> peace out cats
[07:03] <StuckMojo> sysKin: see that URL for how to make xmms seek: "xmms -f"
[07:03] <mateX> hey
[07:03] <timbobsteve> [Phenom] : more info.... ?
[07:04] <StuckMojo> sysKin: btw ggiyf
[07:04] <StuckMojo> er giyf
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > timbobsteve- you mean on the graphics card ?
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- i've noticed anything graphical does
[07:04] <timbobsteve> [Ex0r]  - yes
[07:04] <[Phenom] > Install CD hangs after 'Ok, booting the kernel.'
[07:04] <fivre> arrgh... Now my mouse works but my extra kb keys do nothing
[07:05] <mateX> is Ubuntu a debain?
[07:05] <skorm> fivre: Use the kymapping settings
[07:05] <timbobsteve> [Phenom] : have you tried running it in safe GFX mode... perhaps it is booting but your PC doesn't like frame buffer support
[07:05] <skorm> mateX: yes
[07:05] <skorm> as far as i know xD
[07:05] <fivre> skorm: huh?
[07:05] <Warbo> mateX: Similar, but it is designed more for desktop use (I know there is a server now) whilst Debian is mainly for people who know what they are doing
[07:05] <skorm> I can't remember what is called(im in shell)
[07:06] <fivre> no, I mean now they show nothing to the kernel at all
[07:06] <mister_roboto> [Phenom] : is that an old machine you're booting on?
[07:06] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[07:06] <Schalken> sysKin: haven't found any info on it yet :( sry
[07:06] <[Ex0r] > something is wrong with my drivers
[07:06] <skorm> fivre: oh :O
[07:06] <fivre> they used to do some stuff in xev, but now nothing
[07:06] <[Ex0r] > fglrxinfo gives me this
[07:06] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: he should at least see the messages from the kernel booting and loading modules before it ever tries to start X
[07:06] <[Ex0r] > OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[07:06] <mateX> ok
[07:06] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: X has nothing to do with frame-buffer ;)
[07:06] <mateX> so will that work for Ubuntu http://tx.technion.ac.il/~eyalroz/linux_cable_pptp.html#pptp_l2tp_pppoe
[07:07] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Are you sure your card is supported by fglrx? Some older cards got broken support I think
[07:07] <timbobsteve> [Exor] : check if direct rendering is on
[07:07] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: he said the kernel is not even booting. so what you mean about safe graphics mode?
[07:07] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- i've got an ati radeon 9600 mobility
[07:07] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: it's not loading ANY graphics driver if the kernel can't boot
[07:08] <scabootssca> how do i make my windows drive boot up from grub
[07:08] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Hmm, I'm not sure about that (I think stuff like the mobility 9000 got broke, but I'm not sure of the range above/below that)
[07:08] <[Ex0r] > timbobsteve- no idea where to check for that
[07:08] <Warbo> !grub
[07:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:08] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- the website says anything less than 8500
[07:08] <will> Quick stupid question. Using KDE, where can I turn off the stupid sounds for system events?
[07:08] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: frame buffer is the thing that makes the pretty graphics that show you the boot info.... so... if it isn't displaying then the kernel could still be booting. It happened on my old P2 Celeron 433
[07:08] <Warbo> scabootssca: In Ubuntu do this "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[07:08] <skorm> !users
[07:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about users - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:08] <skorm> !groups
[07:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about groups - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:08] <skorm> liar!
[07:08] <Warbo> will: Control Centre? (kcontrol)
[07:09] <ryanpg> hi all... any networking types know if it is possible to setup a squid proxy server box between my cable modem and my wireless router? I mean does the squid proxy box also have to be a DNS server?
[07:09] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: ahhh. thanks for the info!
[07:09] <timbobsteve> [Ex0r] : glxinfo | grep 'Direct Rendering'
[07:09] <[Ex0r] > timbobsteve- didn't bring back anything
[07:09] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: yeh it had me stumped... the frame-buffer wouldn't work at 1024x768 for my old GForce2
[07:09] <skorm> ryanpg: I don't think so, though you can setup a dns easily
[07:09] <ryanpg> I basically want to use squid as an authenticating proxy so only people who have user-names/passwords will be able to access the internet
[07:09] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : "glxinfo | grep direct"
[07:09] <mateX> Warbo: so will that work for Ubuntu http://tx.technion.ac.il/~eyalroz/linux_cable_pptp.html#pptp_l2tp_pppoe
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > direct rendering: No
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:10] <Warbo> mateX: No idea. Give it a try
[07:10] <timbobsteve> [Ex0r] : try glxinfo | grep direct
[07:10] <[Phenom] > ok, when I boot with "boot=" I get error Kernel panic - not synicing: VFS: Unable to mount as root fs on unk nown-block(8,1)
[07:10] <[Phenom] > nd then it freezes
[07:10] <timbobsteve> [Exor]  : that Direct Render: No is why... you GFX card basically isn't being user
[07:10] <SurfnKid> how can i make xine open up my dvd on insert?
[07:10] <SurfnKid> instead of movie player
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > it's not setting it to the ATI drivers like its supposed to
[07:10] <Warbo> [Phenom] : boot= ? What does that do?
[07:11] <[Ex0r] > its setting it to that Mesa3D
[07:11] <Warbo> SurfnKid: System>Preferences>Removable Drives And Media
[07:11] <timbobsteve> [Phenom] : I am not surprised that it hangs :P you are booting nothing and using no boot partition (ramdisk / hdd)
[07:11] <[Ex0r] > I ran the easyubuntu and it installed the ATI drivers. Do I have to restart after it's done ?
[07:11] <jiSh> ahhhhh i cant beat this torrent problem. only one way,, =/
[07:11] <[Ex0r] > It didn't say anything about restarting
[07:11] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : You need to restart X (ctrl-alt-backspacwe)
[07:11] <mathiaz> johanbr: hum - it doesn't work... missing some dependencies..
[07:11] <SurfnKid> Warbo, sweet, ty
[07:11] <[Phenom] > ah
[07:11] <mathiaz> do you have pre7 ?
[07:11] <[Phenom] > cheers
[07:11] <timbobsteve> [Exor] : type lsmod and check that fglx or whatever the ati driver is called is loaded
[07:11] <skorm> [Phenom] : lol
[07:12] <skorm> [Phenom] : trying to do thin clients are we?
[07:12] <element> after I install kubuntu-desktop, how do I switch over from gnome -> KDE?
[07:12] <mathiaz> johanbr: do you have mplayer32_1.0pre7-1_amd64.deb ?
[07:12] <skorm> jiSh: did you fix your problem?
[07:12] <Warbo> element: Select your session on the login screen
[07:12] <timbobsteve> [Phenom] : from the boot meny hit F4 and select 640x480 then boot as per normal... if that doesn't boot we will try something else
[07:12] <jiSh> nope
[07:12] <element> warbo: ah ok, cool, thanks.
[07:12] <jiSh> but the speed maxes in a windows vmware install
[07:13] <jiSh> its really strange, no?
[07:13] <skorm> my problem i sthe other way
[07:13] <[Ex0r] > !ati
[07:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:13] <skorm> speed is great under linux(ubuntu), but windows its slow
[07:13] <timbobsteve> [Ex0r] : how did it go?
[07:13] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Run this command "sudo modprobe fglrx" does it give an error or do nothing?
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > Operation permitted
[07:14] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : ?
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[07:14] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : You used sudo, yes?
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > yes
[07:15] <[Ex0r] > sudo modprobe fgrlx
[07:15] <[Ex0r] > fglrx*
[07:15] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Well for some reason the driver can't be loaded
[07:15] <[Ex0r] > of course it can't
[07:15] <[Ex0r] > stupid linux
[07:15] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Stupid ATI
[07:15] <timbobsteve> [Ex0r] : try sudo insmod fglrx
[07:15] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/fglrx.ko
[07:15] <jamesstansell> mateX: looks like the ubuntu package is pptp-linux
[07:16] <[Ex0r] > frogzoo - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 467792 2006-07-14 14:14 /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/fglrx.ko
[07:16] <fivre> do nVidia cards cause less havoc than ATI in general?
[07:16] <tuliobra> where is the locationzation for make command ?
[07:16] <timbobsteve> [Ex0r] : ATI are a long way behind Nvidia in terms of linux support
[07:16] <timbobsteve> fivre: yes
[07:16] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Unless you didn't notice, the modules which are actually handled by Linux worked perfectly. It is you trying to mess it up with ATI which is the problem, don't blame Linux
[07:16] <fivre> because my ATI card on the other comp annoys me even in Windows
[07:17] <mathiaz> Does anybody have mplayer32_1.0pre7-1_amd64.deb ?
[07:17] <[Phenom] > haha, <3 you guys
[07:17] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- No, it's linux and ATI support. Has nothing to do with the card. Runs fine in windows.
[07:17] <timbobsteve> fivre: I am finding that Nvidia are the better of the two for now
[07:17] <fivre> freezes in WC3
[07:17] <timbobsteve> [Phenom] : how did you go?
[07:17] <tuliobra> where is the make command ?
[07:17] <[Ex0r] > spent 150 bucks to use a card and can't even play solitaire
[07:17] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Linux has ATI support, you got a desktop after you installed yes? Linux CANNOT use fglrx by default because ATI does not let them. It is ATI's fault
[07:17] <timbobsteve> tubiobra: mine is in /usr/bin/make
[07:17] <tuliobra> im really noob and i need help lol
[07:17] <tuliobra> thanks
[07:18] <fivre> strange that ATI's linux support is so bad... as my 3dfx card works perfectly...
[07:18] <fivre> despite being old as hell
[07:18] <Warbo> tuliobra: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[07:18] <tuliobra> oh thanks
[07:18] <godtvisken> I am enabling ALSA in my kernel but my soundcard isn't listed, I have the ALi M5455, but there is only the M5451
[07:18] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- cannot use by default, doesn't mean at all
[07:18] <timbobsteve> fivre: yeh they did well up until the ATI 9800
[07:18] <tuliobra> it is really what i do need right now
[07:18] <tuliobra> thank you
[07:18] <[Ex0r] > timbobsteve- mines lower than that and can't get it working
[07:19] <[Ex0r] > just how everything goes, it's the card that I have that's not supported.
[07:19] <timbobsteve> godtvisken: find out what sound card chip is on board and use that module
[07:19] <fivre> w00t, I think I have a 9600 across the hall! Maybe I should install Linux over there!
[07:19] <godtvisken> ah yeah, i found the right one
[07:19] <godtvisken> thanks
[07:19] <timbobsteve> [Ex0r] : I struggled with my 9600 so... i know how it feels
[07:19] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Well my experience with flgrx driver is it installs fine, then doesn't let me use the framebuffer or the 3D graphics. So I stuck with the Free driver which gives me 3D support when ATI don't even support their own cards
[07:19] <[Ex0r] > fivre- dont bother, that's what i've got.
[07:20] <fivre> crap
[07:20] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- you mean mesa3d.org ?
[07:20] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : DRI
[07:20] <fivre> oh well, I only use it to play games anyway
[07:20] <timbobsteve> my vote is for Nvidia on Linux... but there still isn't enough reason to even use 3D on linux... not good games... and don't even talk about wine/cedega
[07:20] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : grep fglrx /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[07:20] <[Ex0r] > # DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv"
[07:20] <[Ex0r] > it's disabled
[07:20] <Warbo> Intel has 3D driver in the kernel. Not sure if that is an official one or a community created one though
[07:20] <fivre> MAME and zsnes ftw :D
[07:21] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : no it's not - see the '#' ?
[07:21] <[Ex0r] > ah, now I do
[07:21] <phewl> hey
[07:21] <timbobsteve> hey
[07:21] <phewl> sup
[07:21] <[Ex0r] > For some reason, it WONT load the ati drivers
[07:21] <timbobsteve> no-thang :P
[07:21] <[Ex0r] > keeps saying the renderer is mesa3d.org
[07:21] <timbobsteve> [Ex0r] : what do you need it for anyways?
[07:21] <phewl> play any games?
[07:22] <[Ex0r] > Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:22] <timbobsteve> phewl: yes... on Windows :P
[07:22] <[Ex0r] > timbobsteve- for games that I play.
[07:22] <phewl> =/ i meant on ubuntu
[07:22] <timbobsteve> phewl: does killbill count?
[07:22] <phewl> i guess
[07:22] <phewl> im kinda looking for a good fps
[07:23] <phewl> or mmorpg
[07:23] <phewl> free =x
[07:23] <[Ex0r] > im just using it for my older emulators
[07:23] <fivre> Maple Story?
[07:23] <timbobsteve> phewl: try out Enemy Territory... that is on X and it is free and it rocks online too
[07:23] <Warbo> Tremulus, Enemy Territory, Nexuis
[07:23] <phewl> nexuis looks sick
[07:23] <element> does ubuntu take rpms or is tar the better route? Im trying to install VMware
[07:23] <phewl> but i keep gettin shit when i try to install it
[07:24] <n00bsaib0t^> how do I know the monitor's vertical and horizontal refresh rate?
[07:24] <Warbo> element: RPMs can be converted to Debs with alien, but go with the tar
[07:24] <phewl> and unreal tournaments(all versons)all have "video cant display this mode" comes across my monitor when i try to run it
[07:24] <timbobsteve> element: vmware modules in tar format work well... just untar them and then run ./install.sh
[07:24] <phewl> anyway to fix that
[07:24] <fivre> anyone know why default linux Firefox is compiled without the "copy image" menu item?
[07:24] <element> Warbo, hmmm ok
[07:24] <fivre> because it's really dumb...
[07:24] <frogzoo> phewl: u think people make _good_ fpt/mmorpg for free? ha ha
[07:24] <Warbo> !vmware
[07:24] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[07:24] <element> fivre, wow, that's annoying...I wonder why that is..
[07:24] <fivre> there is no such thing as a good free mmorpg
[07:24] <[Ex0r] > frogzoo- any advice ?
[07:24] <phewl> frogzoo hell no
[07:25] <fivre> as everyone playing it will be 12-year olds with no money/life
[07:25] <phewl> =/
[07:25] <kbrosnan> fivre, I think ispked explained that to you in irc.m.o that it is in the mozilla source code that way
[07:25] <phewl> im just tryin to conserve
[07:25] <phewl> dont really think any game is worth money out my pocket every month
[07:25] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : dunno what you've done to your machine - what's your vid card?
[07:25] <fivre> Yes, but WHY is it in the source that way?
[07:25] <jamesstansell> !mmorpg
[07:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about mmorpg - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:25] <Warbo> Games mainly suffer from graphics. Artists haven't really caught on to Free Software philosophy (just look at Creative Commons and all of the restrictions it implements)
[07:25] <[Ex0r] > frogzoo- ati radeon 9600
[07:26] <mikeymike-linux> audio isn't working for me in you-tube anymore can anyone help me figure out why? it happened after i installed the wiin32codecs and totem-xine for firefox i think?
[07:26] <frogzoo> !fglrx
[07:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:26] <[Ex0r] > frogzoo- only thing I have done was use easyubuntu to install the ati drivers, than went through the site to make sure it was right
[07:26] <GloomyKnight> hello
[07:26] <Warbo> mikeymike-linux: Flash hogs the soundcard, make sure nothing else is using sound when you open FF
[07:26] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : tried #easyubuntu for support?
[07:26] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, wow there's no way around it?
[07:27] <element> is there a "download accelerator plus" type app for linux?
[07:27] <[Ex0r] > frogzoo- No, but I double checked it to the ubuntu website's directions and it was exactly correct
[07:27] <Warbo> mikeymike-linux: I think there is a wrapper=type thing which isolates FF's sound, but it is much nicer if Adobe implemented ALSA (which Flash 9 apparently will do)
[07:27] <harisund> I have a quick question. What is the command to modify the groups a user is in ?
[07:27] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, i closed xmms still no sound :-/
[07:27] <frogzoo> Warbo: devs can make a living supporting the s/w they give away - but artists, their art is bread & butter
[07:27] <nowell> sup al
[07:27] <GloomyKnight> who can give a gmail invition?
[07:27] <nowell> all*
[07:27] <timbobsteve> harisund: edit /etc/group
[07:27] <Scrippie> out of interest
[07:27] <mateX> *.rpm  file wont work on Ubuntu?
[07:27] <GloomyKnight> i need a mail server.
[07:28] <Hexidigital_> mateX::  no
[07:28] <Hexidigital_> !rpm
[07:28] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:28] <nowell> out of curiosity, do i need to do anything special to access computers on a network who are running windows?
[07:28] <fivre> element: Gwget, I believe
[07:28] <GloomyKnight> yes ubuntu use APT
[07:28] <harisund> timbobsteve there is no such file?
[07:28] <element> fivre, thanks
[07:28] <mateX> hmm
[07:28] <fivre> !Gwget
[07:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about Gwget - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:28] <mateX> !APT
[07:28] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:28] <Warbo> !samba
[07:28] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:28] <fivre> or not, something with wget
[07:28] <timbobsteve> harisund: sudo nano /etc/group
[07:28] <frogzoo> nowell: whole range of possibilities - samba, terminal server client, tightvnc, depends what you want
[07:29] <GloomyKnight> who can give a gmail invition?
[07:29] <nowell> just trying to check files to grab off of other PC's on the network here
[07:29] <GloomyKnight> help
[07:29] <[Ex0r] > GloomyKnight- I could
[07:29] <frogzoo> nowell: samba then
[07:29] <GloomyKnight> exor
[07:29] <harisund> timbobsteve, sweet. Thanks :). But I am somewhat not very keen on editing a file.. no command to do that?
[07:29] <GloomyKnight> thanks
[07:29] <Warbo> nowell: Use samba
[07:29] <fivre> half the planet GloomyKnight
[07:29] <mikeymike-linux> ah okay i had to completely restart firefox Warbo
[07:29] <[Ex0r] > GloomyKnight- but I need an email
[07:29] <GloomyKnight> did you use jabber?
[07:29] <skorm> omg, i searched the wiki for "users" and got 1337 results
[07:29] <nowell> frogzoo: can i get hand using it? still very new to linux and ubuntu
[07:29] <timbobsteve> harisund: linuxconf will do it... i think there is  packages
[07:30] <GloomyKnight> i add you
[07:30] <timbobsteve> package*
[07:30] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, so as long as i open FF first it will work?
[07:30] <Warbo> mikeymike-linux: Yes, I actually told you to do that if you read it again :)
[07:30] <harisund> timbobsteve what is it called? linuxconf?
[07:30] <GloomyKnight> exor did you use jabber?
[07:30] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo,  i know you did, it's late id idnt understand completely
[07:30] <[Ex0r] > no
[07:30] <mikeymike-linux> i re-read it and di what you said
[07:30] <mikeymike-linux> did*
[07:30] <frogzoo> nowell: peeps in chan can help you, that's what it's for ;)
[07:30] <GloomyKnight> icq?exor
[07:30] <[Ex0r] > no
[07:30] <GloomyKnight> MSN?
[07:30] <No1Viking> !smtp
[07:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about smtp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:30] <fivre> GloomyKnight: /query or /msg is what you're looking for
[07:30] <timbobsteve> harisund: I think so... not sure... it used to come on RedHat 5.2 :P
[07:30] <Warbo> mikeymike-linux: You can go on any site which doesn't use Flash, but as soon as you are going to go on a Flash site make sure nothing is using sound, then don't let anything use sound until you have finished with using Flash
[07:30] <GloomyKnight> exor:msn?
[07:30] <fivre> /query [Ex0r] 
[07:30] <No1Viking> !mailserver
[07:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about mailserver - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:31] <harisund> timbobsteve atleast it is not called linuxconf directly. sudo apt-cache search --names-only linuxconf doesn't work.. it works on RedHat, then I am guessing it works on Fedora as well..
[07:31] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, ok thanks
[07:31] <nicholaspaul> Once I've downloaded a tar.gz, how do i install?
[07:31] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, do you know how to get mp3's to loop in playback such as ytmnd background mp3's instead of single playing?
[07:31] <Warbo> !compiling
[07:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:31] <timbobsteve> harisund: google it and see... i think it is source only most of the time... it really is easier to just edit the files
[07:31] <mateX> !RPM
[07:31] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:31] <mikeymike-linux> instead of playing once and stopping *
[07:31] <harisund> timbobsteve I will .. thanks ... and yes, it is easier to edit config files (and btw, I use vi :D )
[07:31] <GloomyKnight> exor are you hear?
[07:32] <mateX> dangerous in what sense
[07:32] <timbobsteve> harisund: eeeewwww vi :P hahahahaha
[07:32] <GloomyKnight> i find you
[07:32] <Hexidigital_> mateX::  you can also /msg ubotu {query}
[07:32] <frogzoo> No1Viking: postfix probly is what you want
[07:32] <Hexidigital_> mateX::  it may break your installation
[07:32] <mateX> i see
[07:32] <timbobsteve> matex: rpm doesn't register with the apt database...
[07:32] <Warbo> mikeymike-linux: In Flash?
[07:32] <mateX> man i m trying to install a pptp client
[07:32] <harisund> heheh... and another question. What is the default, or somewhat safe default file permissions? 755 ?
[07:32] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, not always flash.. sometimes its just gif's and mp3's
[07:32] <mateX> but pptpclient.sourceforce.net need a package in .rmp format
[07:32] <timbobsteve> harisund: i think so
[07:32] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, like this one http://orlyrally.ytmnd.com
[07:33] <mikeymike-linux> the mp3 plays once
[07:33] <mikeymike-linux> then stops
[07:33] <nicholaspaul> Warbo: was that for me? is that considered compiling?
[07:33] <Hexidigital_> mateX::  open terminal, type apt-cache search pptp
[07:33] <Warbo> nicholaspaul: yes
[07:33] <harisund> timbobsteve, thanks a lot ... I will look up linuxconf and get back .. have a great day :)
[07:33] <timbobsteve> harisund: u too
[07:33] <Warbo> mikeymike-linux: Try messing around with mozplugger
[07:33] <nicholaspaul> Warbo: aah. Thanks!
[07:33] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, mozplugger? ok i will read about what it is
[07:33] <mateX> i m not on Ubuntu right now
[07:33] <GloomyKnight> call:EX0r
[07:33] <fivre> damn you freenode and your nick registration idiocy
[07:33] <mateX> cant access intenret there :(
[07:34] <[Ex0r] > frogzoo- well im done dealing with it. easyubuntu can't figure it out, either
[07:34] <phewl> what program is "make"
[07:34] <GloomyKnight> i need your help
[07:34] <sysKin> how can I change what calculator is run when a key is pressed in keybindings?
[07:34] <Hexidigital_> !usenames
[07:34] <ubotu> Please prefix what you're saying with a name to avoid confusion. See !tab
[07:34] <[Ex0r] > GloomyKnight- email me your email address- master_yoer@yahoo.com
[07:34] <timbobsteve> phewl: it automatically compiles files for you... it is very good
[07:34] <Warbo> !keys
[07:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about keys - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:34] <Warbo> !keyboard
[07:34] <phewl> whats it called
[07:34] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[07:34] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : best from now for you might be reinstall & follow this howto
[07:34] <phewl> i need to install it
[07:34] <frogzoo> !fglrx
[07:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:34] <[Ex0r] > frogzoo- I just said I already did.
[07:34] <phewl> bash: make: command not found
[07:34] <phewl> lysol@PhewL:~/Desktop/Unreal3.2$
[07:35] <BHSPitMonkey> !midi
[07:35] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[07:35] <nowell> I've got a few little noob questions, if anyone has the time to help, it'd be much appreciated
[07:35] <Warbo> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:35] <BHSPitMonkey> grr, I don't want software synthesis
[07:35] <fivre> sysKin: tell whatever the keycode is to run your preferred calculator via xbindkeys or similar
[07:35] <timbobsteve> phewl: its in apt... your best just to get build-essentials
[07:35] <GloomyKnight> thanks exor
[07:35] <phewl> thanks timbobsteve
[07:35] <BHSPitMonkey> can I not use real MIDI in ubuntu?
[07:35] <phewl> and Warbo
[07:35] <timbobsteve> BHSPitMonkey: yes... u just need the libs and a program... mplayer probably
[07:36] <mister_roboto> actually, make only does whatever the makefile tells it to  ;^)
[07:36] <BHSPitMonkey> every midi-dependent program I try to use crashes
[07:36] <BHSPitMonkey> like noteedit, rosegarden, etc
[07:36] <paul__> !tab
[07:36] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:36] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: well... yes thats true hahahaha but it makes files compile automatically
[07:36] <snoops> nowell go nuts
[07:37] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: does no such thing if there is no cc command in the makefile :)
[07:37] <[Ex0r] > hmm, is that tab thing in console something new?
[07:37] <paul__> ubotu thanks
[07:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about thanks - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:37] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: it produces targets from their dependencies
[07:37] <[Ex0r] > I dont remember being able to do that in FC4
[07:37] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: now yours just being pedantic :P "gcc - pedantic" :P
[07:37] <Warbo> BHSPitMonkey: Pretty much every MIDI program relies on Timidity, although some may use fluidsynth. I don't know how to bypass this to use any MIDI which may be present on a PC's soundcard though
[07:37] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: doing whatever commands you specify
[07:37] <BHSPitMonkey> so, I can't use my soundcard's MIDI input, either?
[07:38] <GloomyKnight> Exor:do you receive my mail?
[07:38] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: just razzing you :)  but there is nothing about make that inherently compiles anything
[07:38] <GloomyKnight> call Ex0r
[07:38] <[Ex0r] > GloomyKnight- nope
[07:38] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: true... but general usage stats makes it easier to say it does :P
[07:38] <[Ex0r] > did now
[07:38] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: true  :)
[07:38] <Warbo> BHSPitMonkey: MIDI input is a tricky area. I have never used it myself so I haven't investigated it (there is a large bounty for Gstreamer MIDI support in Launchpad though)
[07:38] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: do you program?
[07:39] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: for like 20 years :)
[07:39] <GloomyKnight> you email address is:master_yoer@yahoo.com right?
[07:39] <nicholaspaul> Warbo: whats the name of that package of compilers i need to compile stuff?
[07:39] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: what languages ?
[07:39] <[Ex0r] > yeah
[07:39] <[Ex0r] > GloomyKnight- check your email
[07:39] <timbobsteve> nicholaspaul: build-essentials
[07:39] <Warbo> nicholaspaul: build-essential (you may want a 3.x version of gcc as well, like gcc-3.4, since some stuff needs that)
[07:39] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, what is a wrapper? and what is mozpluggeR?
[07:39] <BHSPitMonkey> is launchpad just shuttleworth's program to fund linux progress
[07:39] <GloomyKnight> thanks Ex0r
[07:39] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: c/c++/java   only java these days. well... to be honest, now an architect mainly reviewing designs :)
[07:39] <GloomyKnight> you are kind
[07:40] <sepehre> hi again, does anyone know where the ubuntu gnome splash screen is? - I know how to change it, I just don't know where the files are
[07:40] <nicholaspaul> timbobsteve: oh yes! Thanks!
[07:40] <nicholaspaul> thx Warbo
[07:40] <Warbo> mikeymike-linux: mozplugger lets pretty much any program become embedded in Mozilla based browsers, so you could tell it to use XMMS to play the MP3s for example and then tell XMMS to loop
[07:40] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: I just finished my own version of pong hahahaha I am so proud. Game programming is something else altogether from apps
[07:40] <MAssacration> hi every one
[07:40] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, hmm
[07:40] <timbobsteve> MAssacration: hey
[07:40] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, and what is a wrapper? lol
[07:41] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: good job!  yes, game programming is hard work!
[07:41] <fivre> hey, does anyone know why my logitech cordless elite's media keys would stop working after setting up my MX700 as per the mouse guide on the forums?
[07:41] <Warbo> mikeymike-linux: A wrapper basically redirects input and output, so for example the k3b program is just a wrapper for cdrecord
[07:41] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: I wrote it procedurally, now I am gonna convert it to OOP :P that will be fun
[07:41] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_9600
[07:41] <[Ex0r] > that's my video card
[07:41] <mikeymike-linux> Warbo, hmm
[07:41] <[Ex0r] > except it's 256mb ram
[07:41] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Good for you
[07:41] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: do you program for a living?
[07:41] <majd> hey
[07:42] <majd> i'm using gproftpd and i can't figure out how to get my ftp server online
[07:42] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: no... I am tech_support for a government agency... I want to study game programming tho
[07:42] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- it says ubuntu has support for it, so I know it's not that there is no support.
[07:42] <Schalke1> how do i change my computer's name?
[07:42] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: what you gonna use for the oop rewrite?
[07:43] <timbobsteve> Schalke1: sudo nano /etc/hostname
[07:43] <[Ex0r] > !ati
[07:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:43] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: c++... i wrote it in C... now I am gonna try objects
[07:43] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : ati driver gives support, just not 3D. Check my radeon driver howto to see if your card is supported (I think it is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonHowto )
[07:43] <frogzoo> Schalke1: /etc/hostname & update /etc/hosts
[07:43] <tuliobra> what is the locazation of c header files ?
[07:43] <GloomyKnight> ex0r:thanks your invitation
[07:43] <GloomyKnight> i want to add you ok?
[07:43] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: good deal. i'm sure you'll have a great time and learn a lot.  :)
[07:43] <Schalke1> timbobsteve: thats it, thanks!
[07:44] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- RadeonDriver ?
[07:44] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : The one I use
[07:44] <[Ex0r] > no I mean is that the one you meant?
[07:44] <tuliobra> what is the locazation of c header files ?..
[07:44] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: the whole inter-object messaging system has me completely confused.... I will probably just hack it and pass pointers to the GFX/Sound systems... thats pretty cheap tho...
[07:44] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : That URL might be wrong, try searching wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:44] <fivre> does anyone know how to copy/paste in rxvt?
[07:44] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Oh, yes
[07:44] <timbobsteve> tuliobra: no idea :P
[07:45] <[Ex0r] > k :)
[07:45] <Warbo> fivre: Select and middle click?
[07:45] <tuliobra> lol my internet is crashing, stupid isp ;p
[07:45] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- did you say that these drivers give support, just not 3d support ?
[07:45] <gmoore> i'm going to be using my Ubuntu system as a server (web, database, etc) and as a PVR if i can get my tvtuner working. in general: KDE or Gnome? axp 2800+, 512mb ram, voodoo3, tvtuner
[07:45] <tuliobra> lol im installing vmware tools, and it is need the c header files directory to finish up
[07:45] <fivre> middle-click doesn't work, I think it's xfce's fault
[07:45] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Check the compatibility list. For some cards there is 3D support
[07:45] <timbobsteve> gmoore: use XFCE :P hahahah its lighter and works better... but to each their own
[07:46] <[Ex0r] > ah, 2D only
[07:46] <Warbo> tuliobra: Do you mean linux-headers?
[07:46] <tuliobra> yes
[07:46] <gmoore> timbobsteve: does it have apps to support MythTV, and other assorted things?
[07:46] <tuliobra> apt-get install linux-headers? lol
[07:46] <[Ex0r] > darnit, it's not going to do me any good anyways to install them because I STILL can't run my emulators
[07:46] <mister_roboto> timbobsteve: if it's just one monolithic program then the messaging is basically just calling functions, only they are contained inside objects.
[07:46] <Warbo> tuliobra: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:46] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : What emulators by the way?
[07:46] <timbobsteve> gmoore: I was under the impression that MythTV was all inclusive and it didn't require anything from the Desktop environment
[07:47] <[Ex0r] > Warbo- Nemu64, GSnes9x, and GEN
[07:47] <Warbo> MythTV is a frontend to loads of stuff like web browsers and stuff, so maybe they are needed
[07:47] <timbobsteve> mister_roboto: yeh true... it is such a mind workout to write games... totally throws away any app programming and makes you think differently :P
[07:47] <[Ex0r] > You can get help with mythtv at #mythv-users
[07:47] <[Ex0r] > #mythtv-users *
[07:48] <tulio_> au.archive.ubuntu are too slow for me
[07:48] <tulio_> someone know an better choice?
[07:48] <jamson> hello
[07:48] <tulio_> yo
[07:48] <timbobsteve> jamson: hey
[07:48] <timbobsteve> tulio_ : no sorry...
[07:48] <tulio_> thats ok thanks
[07:49] <jamson> i have a question
[07:49] <timbobsteve> tulio_: I am in Oz and I dont find it slow from au.archive.*
[07:49] <timbobsteve> jamson: fire away
[07:49] <tulio_> good, i dont know what 0Z means, w/e
[07:49] <timbobsteve> tulio_: Australia ;/
[07:49] <Warbo> Click your heels together 3 times
[07:50] <gmoore> question about KDE. xorg.conf was set to use 'vesa' as my Device driver. i have a voodoo3, so i changed it to 'tdfx'. now, kde stalls while loading (i'm staring at 'kubuntu' with an empty progress bar splash screen right now). what did i do wrong? i want to have it use the right driver so that i can use XV
[07:50] <tulio_> lol you are in australia acessing austrailia servers
[07:50] <tulio_> yeah it is good
[07:50] <tulio_> im from brazil
[07:50] <jamson> i have just installed a copy of ubuntu 4.10 "warty warthog" and it is in some form of command line prompt thing, is it meant to be like that or should it be in a GUI form
[07:50] <tulio_> there is no usa servers or something closer ?
[07:50] <Warbo> tulio_: Maybe there is a br.archive........? I just use archive.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <timbobsteve> tulio_ : I thought because you were asking about au servers you were actually in Australia :P my bad
[07:51] <tulio_> oh no :p
[07:51] <tulio_> no it is my bad, i bad too bad at english
[07:51] <timbobsteve> jamson: I am not sure... I have only ever used the GUI installer from Dapper Drake
[07:51] <tulio_> haha
[07:51] <timbobsteve> tulio_ : np ;)
[07:52] <timbobsteve> jamson: can you get ahold of a copy of dapper? if so... best use that to install
[07:52] <jamson> hmm ok, that might be an issue on dialup ;)
[07:52] <timbobsteve> jamson: me too... I got ShipIt CD's... 6 weeks to australia tho :(
[07:53] <jamson> your from Australia also, cool :P
[07:53] <timbobsteve> jamson: ;)
[07:53] <Schalken> !compiz
[07:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:53] <timbobsteve> jamson: PM me and I can mail you a copy of my Dapper CD :)
[07:54] <godtvisken> I can't find in the kernel config how to enable an RTL-8139. Does anyone know where it is?
[07:54] <jamson> nah its ok, i remember installing this copy last year and for some odd reason it came with a GUI :/
[07:54] <[Ex0r] > hmm, what are these 2005 ati drivers
[07:54] <burepe> I am converting files with Soundconverter and the all the new files times are different
[07:54] <burepe> What should I do?
[07:54] <timbobsteve> godtvisken: I think it is Device Drivers -> Network 10 / 100 -> Realtek ***
[07:54] <[Ex0r] > from the ati.com website
[07:55] <joemauch> are all ubuntu binaries compied for i386 or i686?
[07:55] <timbobsteve> jamson: sure... I just want to get rid of my extras... ShipIt sent me 5 of each... and I don't have a PPC or a 64bit CPU :P
[07:55] <godtvisken> timbobsteve: i thought it would be there too but i don't see any realtek stuff
[07:55] <timbobsteve> godtvisken: I think the driver is refered to as RTL-81xx though.... not RTL-8139
[07:56] <timbobsteve> godtvisken: what version of the kernel ?
[07:56] <tuliobra> what is the apt primary service anyways ?
[07:56] <tuliobra> http://archive.ubuntu.com ?
[07:56] <timbobsteve> godtvisken: I have used it on 2.4 and 2.6 before... it is definately there
[07:56] <godtvisken> timbobsteve: 2.6.17.4
[07:56] <godtvisken> timbobsteve: yeah, it is somewhere, because it works currently.. but i just wanted to make it enabled instead of just a module
[07:56] <timbobsteve> godtvisken: try opening up the .config file and searching for "RTL-81"... should let you know what menu it comes under
[07:57] <godtvisken> timbobsteve: ok thanks
[07:58] <jamson> thats a lot timbosteve
[07:58] <godtvisken> timbobsteve: only one occurance of RTL81 and it is under USB adaptors
[07:58] <yipe> what exactly does the linux-image-386 package DO?
[07:58] <timbobsteve> jamson: I know... I have already given it to all coworkers :P and I still have a few
[07:58] <jamson> lol
[07:59] <tulio_> lol how do i run gedit under root ?
[07:59] <tulio_> i cant save sources.list ;p
[07:59] <timbobsteve> godtvisken: it is definately there... I havent got the source atm so I can't check it :( sorry... I compiled it on Slackware last week and it was there...
[07:59] <tulio_> lol i'm noobing really nice
[07:59] <yipe> tulio_, open a terminal and type "gksudo gedit"
[07:59] <godtvisken> timbobsteve: hm, well thanks
[07:59] <timbobsteve> yipe: I think it is the kernel or the bootsplash stuff...
[07:59] <tulio_> yipe:  thanks
[07:59] <jamson> thanks for your help
[07:59] <yipe> tuliono problem:)
[07:59] <timbobsteve> jamson: NP
[07:59] <yipe> ugh, I can't type
[08:00] <jamson> ciao
[08:00] <timbobsteve> cu
[08:00] <zcat[1] > yipe: alt-F2.. don't scare the newb's with that terminal crap!!
[08:01] <yipe> .... there's a way to do that without the terminal?
[08:01] <zcat[1] > alt-F2 to run a program.. no terminal
[08:01] <Lord-ChewY> anyone here get cedega to run on ubuntu?
[08:01] <Lord-ChewY> i get this error ZeroDivisionError: float division
[08:02] <tulio_> lol it is really much faster with br.archives.ubuntu.com
[08:02] <joemauch> what's the program that speeds up application launching?
[08:02] <tulio_> thanks :D
[08:02] <tulio_> prefetch:1?
[08:02] <joemauch> something linking
[08:02] <tulio_> haha
[08:02] <godtvisken> Is it better to enable something as a module even if it's my hardware?
[08:02] <yipe> ooohhh I just got an error "NotWatchingFuturamaWhileFuturamaIsOn: Watch Futurama" I'll be back to talk about this linux image thing during the next commerical:P
[08:03] <zcat[1] > wtf?
[08:03] <zcat[1] > where was that error?
[08:03] <[Ex0r] > wow....
[08:04] <yipe> i'm joking.... sorry
[08:04] <zcat[1] > thought it might have been a tvtime error.. they have some funny comments in the titlebar...
[08:05] <[Ex0r] > something wrong with the apt repo's ?
[08:05] <yipe> not here [Ex0r] 
[08:05] <tulio__> now i installed linux-headers
[08:05] <tulio__> where is it gone
[08:07] <yipe> alt-f2 doesn't do anything for me
[08:07] <tulio__> where is the linux-headers? =/
[08:07] <zcat[1] > yipe: gnome?
[08:07] <yipe> yes
[08:07] <zcat[1] > curious
[08:08] <sam_> I'm trying to get wpa_supplicant to work... I have Dapper up2date... with ipw and ieee80211 install.... i'm a bit new at using kubuntu/ubuntu.. is there a global config to wpa_supplicant?  where do I specify the dirvers etc to be used.
[08:08] <Lord-ChewY> anyone here get cedega to run on ubuntu?
[08:08] <Lord-ChewY> dapper
[08:08] <zcat[1] > left alt key?
[08:08] <[Ex0r] > HOLY crap, my internet just got extremely slow
[08:08] <zcat[1] > alt-F2 definately should give you a 'run program' dialog on any stock install of ubuntu
[08:09] <zcat[1] > I just checked on two other freshly installed machines.. both have it.
[08:10] <heretician> Where is the GUI located for Wine?
[08:10] <yipe> any idea what might be stopping it? MY keyboard has a *grumble grumble* f-lock key on it, and I tried it in both states of the f-lock
[08:10] <tulio____> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[08:10] <tulio____> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[08:11] <zcat[1] > yipe: your keyboard is faulty. Get a normal one! :-)
[08:11] <tulio____> i already isntalled linux-headers
[08:11] <yipe> zcat, believe me I know
[08:11] <yipe> I wanna crack this thing over my knee so bad sometimes
[08:12] <tulio____> lawl
[08:12] <godtvisken> How do I find out what my hardware monitoring chip is?
[08:12] <tvalladon> any GL application I run only shows the top 1/3 of the screen.. any help?
[08:12] <tulio____> no one knows where can i find linux-headers folder ?
[08:13] <zcat[1] > wonder if the powerbutton on this keyboard works (if I quit suddenly, the answer was yes...)
[08:14] <fivre> Yep
[08:14] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[08:14] <[Ex0r] > I wonder if that gave me 3d support
[08:15] <[Ex0r] > i found a thing on the site for 3d support via a repo
[08:15] <zcat[1] > yep, it works!
[08:15] <[Ex0r] > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:15] <[Ex0r] > under the Seveas Repository section
[08:16] <tulio> holy crap
[08:16] <tulio> please somebody help me
[08:16] <[Ex0r] > said to disable flgrx support and it works
[08:16] <[Ex0r] > so im hoping it does, but not really a way to test
[08:17] <Jude> whats the name of a good firewall program?
[08:17] <tulio2> nettables ?
[08:17] <tulio2> iptables
[08:18] <Jude> are they easy to use?
[08:18] <tulio2> yep
[08:18] <Jude> do they have intrusion detection?
[08:18] <Jude> notify*
[08:18] <tulio2> please somebody help me before my internet crash again
[08:19] <tulio2> i need the localization of linux-headers files
[08:19] <fivre> what's a better gui archiver than the Xarchiver thing that comes with xfce?
[08:19] <Jude> i'm looking for a gui firewall
[08:20] <phunkalicious> firestarter
[08:20] <Jude> how do you close a port manually?
[08:20] <phunkalicious> is it open already?
[08:20] <Jude> i'm on dsl and my internet connection is lagging and everything will start lagging all the sudden when i dont have anything open
[08:20] <Jude> yea
[08:21] <sam_> heretician, there is no gui for wine
[08:21] <[Ex0r] > yes there i
[08:21] <[Ex0r] > is*
[08:21] <[Ex0r] > xwine
[08:21] <Hyper> LOL
[08:21] <sam_> really?  never even heard of it before... always used the cli
[08:21] <phunkalicious> http://axljab.homelinux.org/Iptables_basics
[08:21] <phunkalicious> :|
[08:21] <[Ex0r] > it's not very practicle, but there is one none the less
[08:21] <DarKnesS_WolF> i'm trying to create a java.sh file in /etc/profile.d to put the java path in it.. but the system just ignoures the /etc/profile.d/ do i need special configurations to enable profile.d ?
[08:23] <tulio2> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[08:23] <tulio2> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[08:24] <elhaxxorz> some help with gdesklets/python?
[08:25] <wolfAlfa> good morning,
[08:25] <godtvisken> What does make-kpkg clean? Should I do it if I am recompiling a kernel but I still want the old kernel?
[08:25] <tvalladon> Jude: fire started is a gui firewall package
[08:25] <tvalladon> Jude: err, firestarter
[08:26] <tulio2> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386/include/
[08:26] <tulio2> lol
[08:26] <tulio2> thanks
[08:26] <wolfAlfa> i'm getting 'Couldnt find package bluefish'
[08:26] <wolfAlfa> any ideas ?
[08:27] <Madpilot> wolfAlfa, do you have the Universe & Multiverse repos enabled?
[08:27] <Jude> any one know where to get a good ebook on c++ thats good for a total begginner?
[08:27] <Jude> free
[08:27] <tvalladon> Jude: did you get that on firewalls?
[08:27] <wolfAlfa> Madpilot: I'm new to Ubuntu, no idea what those are
[08:28] <Madpilot> wolfAlfa, are you new to Linux entirely, or just to Ubuntu?
[08:28] <wolfAlfa> Madpilot: Gentoo user
[08:28] <narfmaster> Jude, get "glibc-doc"
[08:28] <Madpilot> wolfAlfa, OK. Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[08:28] <Jude> its downloading
[08:29] <wolfAlfa> Madpilot: checking, thanks
[08:29] <Madpilot> wolfAlfa, and welcome to a distro that doesn't expect you to spend all your time compiling ;)
[08:29] <Hit3k> Madpilot, you never said that to me when i switched!
[08:29] <wolfAlfa> Madpilot: I'm not quitting gentoo pal, this is for a friend ;)
[08:30] <DarKnesS_WolF> i'm trying to create a java.sh file in /etc/profile.d to put the java path in it.. but the system just ignoures the /etc/profile.d/ do i need special configurations to enable profile.d ?
[08:30] <narfmaster> actually for a total beginner you want to check out http://www.cplusplus.com/
[08:31] <tvalladon> any GL application I run only shows the top 1/3 of the screen.. any help?
[08:31] <sam_> does xgl work on KDE?
[08:31] <wolfAlfa> One more question guys, I'm trying to install a driver but getting this message
[08:32] <wolfAlfa> 15resolution depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[08:32] <wolfAlfa> anyway to get around this?
[08:32] <Hit3k> then apt-get that version of lib6
[08:33] <Hyper> in gaim how do you block and unblock msn users?
[08:33] <narfmaster> Hit3k, that's the Dapper version of libc6
[08:33] <Hit3k> ah
[08:34] <elhaxxorz> to whoever was helping me with gdesklets
[08:34] <elhaxxorz> http://pastebin.ca/89414
[08:34] <wolfAlfa> Hyper: go to the privacy window
[08:35] <wolfAlfa> Hyper: Tools -> Privacy
[08:35] <slugburz> somebody speak spanish?
[08:35] <slugburz> i need help
[08:35] <narfmaster> !es
[08:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:35] <angel> how can I install a bluetooth manager in Ubuntu ?
[08:35] <Jude> when i try to start firestarter it says the device sit0 is not ready
[08:35] <Jude> what does that mean
[08:36] <narfmaster> Jude, that means your network isn't active
[08:36] <Jude> my internet connection is active
[08:36] <narfmaster> Jude, you need to go to System > Admin > Networking and set that up
[08:37] <Madpilot> Jude, then Firestarter is looking at the wrong net connection on your box, if you've got more than one
[08:37] <Hotwheelz> if i run a packages search 4 Mythtv only 0.18 packages show up latest build is 0.19 does anyone when will the repositry\s be updated to reflect this?...Or is there an update command u need to run I thinks somone here said there was.Can somone pls dcc me with an answer...Thanks :-)
[08:37] <Jude> my net connection is eth0
[08:37] <Jude> i have it set to eth0
[08:38] <tonicrigid> I'm pretty new to Linux, but not a n00b to computers, and I was wondering if any gurus could answer some technical questions about Ubuntu I have
[08:38] <angel> how can I use my bluetooth headset in ubuntu?
[08:38] <Madpilot> Jude, in Firestarter, run the setup wizard thing again, make sure it's working on eth0
[08:38] <angel> I need help
[08:38] <Jude> it is
[08:38] <Jude> i just checked it
[08:38] <Madpilot> tonicrigid, if you actually ask the questions first, you might get some help ;)
[08:38] <tonicrigid> makes sense
[08:39] <Hyper> ty wolfAlfa
[08:39] <FunnyLookinHat> tonicrigid, yea just shoot the questions out  : )
[08:39] <Jude> ok i got it
[08:39] <Jude> how do i know if someone is hacking me?
[08:39] <tonicrigid> I was wondering in which ways Linux is better than Windows, I've been told numerous times that Linux is better for reading and writing programs, but have never really been told why
[08:39] <Jude> and how do i close a port manually
[08:40] <narfmaster> Jude, you can use Ethereal to monitor your network
[08:40] <Flannel> tonicrigid: that might be a better question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:40] <FunnyLookinHat> tonicrigid, the big advantages to linux are it's flexibility, security, and strong developer base imho.  But you will find that everyone has differing oppinions
[08:40] <Jude> i have it
[08:40] <wolfAlfa> tonicrigid: just try it, if you're not the 'noob' as you say, you'll know
[08:40] <Jude> but i dont really understand it to well
[08:40] <jonas-irc> how do i delete a folder with content with terminal?
[08:40] <FunnyLookinHat> tonicrigid, he is right about ubuntu-offtopic...  you can PM me i fyou woul dlike to talk about this as well
[08:40] <Jude> the help files are kind of cryptic for a newb
[08:41] <narfmaster> jonas-irc, rm -r /folder
[08:41] <tonicrigid> alrighty
[08:41] <FunnyLookinHat> jonas-irc, rm -rf folder
[08:41] <Hotwheelz> hello
[08:41] <FunnyLookinHat> jonas-irc, use the -f option as well or else youare prompted for every file
[08:41] <Jude> how can i close a port manually?
[08:42] <Jude> is there an icon for firestarter?
[08:42] <narfmaster> Jude, you could use cutter but i don't have much experience with that
[08:42] <wolfAlfa> guys, sorry for the repeated question:
[08:43] <wolfAlfa> 15resolution depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[08:43] <sysKin> alright! I made multimedia keys working with keytouch AND I found a player that seeks from commandline (rhythmbox). now, final last time, why rhythmbox doesn't seem to open .wav files
[08:44] <sysKin> if it doesn't then all I did is ruined O_O
[08:44] <EdLin> wolfAlfa: does your /etc/apt/sources.list include non-Ubuntu sources?
[08:44] <narfmaster> sysKin, i guess gstreamer doesn't support every type of wav file
[08:44] <crazy_penguin> a good morning to all!
[08:45] <sysKin> narfmaster: nah that's just a 44khz pcm stereo ;) although indeed, gstreamer isa the key which is a good thing
[08:45] <deep> Right.
[08:46] <wolfAlfa> EdLin: only ubuntu sources
[08:46] <[NP] Tangent> alright, so my sound has mysteriously stopped working upon rebooting
[08:46] <Mortalman> reboot again
[08:47] <skorm> keep rebooting until it does work xD
[08:47] <narfmaster> wolfAlfa, where is 15resolution coming from? acpi-support?
[08:47] <EdLin> wolfAlfa: that's strange then. edgy might have those problems, but I'd expect to see different version numbers than that kind of conflict
[08:47] <Jude> sometimes when i try to log into websites i'll get pop ups for another log in from some other site
[08:47] <Jude> or i'll type the url of one site in and it will take me to another
[08:47] <RandomDude15> hey i need a subtitler or logo fliter for avidemux like virtualdub has, anyone?
[08:47] <Jude> or it will say sites like google are forbidden
[08:47] <godtvisken> How come Banshee isn't in the repo?
[08:47] <Jude> does anyone know wha tthat means?
[08:48] <wolfAlfa> narfmaster: http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=sw_linux&message.id=7322
[08:48] <jonas-irc> i do I mount an *.dmg file with any user support? I mountet it now, but only the super user can read any files from it??
[08:48] <narfmaster> Jude, something going on with your DNS there
[08:48] <wolfAlfa> narfmaster: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/9/915resolution/
[08:48] <narfmaster> 915?
[08:48] <Jude> well the other day i opend up a browser and my homepage is google and the url said google but it took me to this guy i know on a forum who is known for being a hacker
[08:49] <EdLin> wolfAlfa: there's your answer, you're mixing Debian and Ubuntu repositories. I thought you told me you weren't doing that?
[08:49] <skorm> Jude: you may have to talk to your isp for information about dns servers
[08:49] <Jude> it was a directory of pictures and files and stuff
[08:49] <wolfAlfa> EdLin: humm, I got the link from an Ubuntu forum in the first place...
[08:49] <skorm> seems, fairly uncomon for linux
[08:49] <skorm> Jude.
[08:49] <Jude> do you think he hacked me?
[08:49] <EdLin> wolfAlfa: well, that forum post was wrong. :-/
[08:49] <Jude> its been doing it alot lately
[08:49] <skorm> So i'd says its your dns provider
[08:50] <wolfAlfa> EdLin: let me see if I can find it then
[08:50] <godtvisken> How come Banshee isn't in the repo?
[08:50] <FunnyLookinHat> godtvisken, it is.  I have it!  : )
[08:50] <FunnyLookinHat> !multiverse
[08:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:50] <EdLin> wolfAlfa: it doesn't matter, if that's the address he gave he reccomended to you a non-ubuntu source.
[08:50] <Jude> i have dsl and my web pages will take dialup speed to load
[08:50] <narfmaster> wolfAlfa, you need to reinstall the Ubuntu version
[08:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyways, bed time, that's the last of my support for the night  : )
[08:51] <[NP] Tangent> alright, dunno if rebooting was some kind of jokie
[08:51] <[NP] Tangent> cuz it still doesn't work
[08:51] <Madpilot> !info banshee
[08:51] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 870 kB, installed size 2744 kB
[08:51] <Madpilot> godtvisken, it's in Universe
[08:51] <wolfAlfa> EdLin: here it is
[08:51] <godtvisken> !easysource godtvisken
[08:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysource godtvisken - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:51] <godtvisken> !easysource
[08:51] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:51] <Jude> how do you put icons on the applications menu?
[08:52] <wolfAlfa> thank you guys, you're very helpful around here
[08:52] <Jude> like for banshee or something
[08:52] <godtvisken> Madpilot: thanks
[08:52] <[NP] Tangent> all that I've done since it worked was plug in a MIDI keyboard via USB
[08:52] <Madpilot> godtvisken, no problem
[08:52] <Schalken> is there a gnome benchmarking application?
[08:52] <joemauch> does anybody know a good tweak guide?
[08:53] <narfmaster> joemauch, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:55] <whitehorseNtiger> What is the best ethernet card for linux?
[08:55] <whitehorseNtiger> Do they all work?
[08:55] <DBO> pretty much
[08:56] <whitehorseNtiger> ok
[08:56] <narfmaster> most PCI ethernet cards work fine already
[08:57] <Hyper> is there anyway to share the scanner over the network ?
[08:57] <Hyper> a scanner*
[08:57] <jonas-irc> how do i mount an dmg file?
[08:57] <gmoore> what file do i need to edit to control sound options and devices?
[08:58] <Hyper> gmoore,  alsa ? oss ?
[08:58] <Mortalman> Ok, I recently installed ubuntu(latest) and apt-get doesn't find A LOT of apps.  Am I to understand that I'm to add other apt sources in that aren't part of ubuntu ?
[08:58] <Hyper> !multiverse
[08:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:58] <Madpilot> Mortalman, that depends - what are you looking for?
[08:58] <gmoore> Hyper: nforce2, just installed ubuntu, don't know what it tried to load but whatever it was doesn't work. trying to follow the nvidia nforce2 drivers install guide
[08:58] <Jude> whats a progam other then skype that i can use to dial phone numbers?
[08:58] <Hyper> mortal, try  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[08:59] <Madpilot> Jude, Ekiga
[08:59] <Hyper> lol
[08:59] <Hyper> gmoore,  i recently had that issue
[08:59] <nailer> Hey folks
[08:59] <Hyper> the latest ubuntu should support nforce drivers
[08:59] <Hyper> etc.
[08:59] <nailer> Anyone know a working freecontrib.org mirror?
[08:59] <gmoore> should i need to install the nvidia binaries?
[08:59] <Hyper> without having to download the ones from the nvidia site
[08:59] <Jude> apt-get install Ekiga Madpilot ?
[08:59] <Mortalman> Hyper: yes or no would have sufficed, but I guess I'll read that page instead.
[08:59] <Hyper> do it for the graphics if you have a nvidia based card
[08:59] <nailer> freecontrib is down, and the mirrors only seem to have mandrake packages
[08:59] <Madpilot> Jude, it should be installed by default in Dapper - look in Applications->Internet
[09:00] <Jude> its not
[09:00] <Jude> i'm on breezy
[09:00] <Hyper> gmoore, have you tried playing sound atm ?
[09:00] <Hyper> try alsamixer in console
[09:00] <Khellendros> :)
[09:00] <Jude> where can i get it?
[09:00] <Madpilot> Jude, you can't upgrade? You can get Ekiga for Breezy, but it's not that easy
[09:00] <Jude> how
[09:01] <Mortalman> Hyper: btw, coming from a debian background, that page didn't answer my question.
[09:01] <gmoore> function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device
[09:01] <Madpilot> Jude, search ubuntuforums.org, there's an Ekiga on Breezy howto somewhere - I don't have the link stored anymore
[09:01] <Jude> k
[09:01] <Jude> thanks
[09:01] <lampshade> How do I get bash completion to work with SSH like for known hosts and such?  I'm googling right now, but surprisingly no finding what I'm looking for though I thought this was really common
[09:01] <Madpilot> Mortalman, the short answer to your question is that many of Ubuntu's packages are in the Universe repository, which isn't enabled by default
[09:01] <Hyper> Mortalman, you need to enable the other repositories
[09:02] <Hyper> in order to get other applications
[09:02] <Hyper> such as xmms xchat etc
[09:02] <Hyper> things like that
[09:02] <Hyper> gmoore, hmm
[09:02] <nailer> lampshade: i think the 'extended bash autocompletion' is what you're looking for
[09:02] <java> i'm installing ubuntu.. can i switch the desktop to KDE later?
[09:02] <gmoore> oh jesus my onboard audio was disabled in the bios
[09:02] <Hyper> gmoore, which did you install? desktop/alternate/server?
[09:02] <gmoore> it's on now, rebooting
[09:03] <nailer> had a play with it on another distro a while back
[09:03] <Hyper> lol
[09:03] <narfmaster> java, yes
[09:03] <nailer> anyone know any working freecontrib mirrors?
[09:03] <gmoore> Hyper: i installed server then did an install kubuntu-desktop and xorg-common
[09:03] <java> narfmaster is there a HOWTO ?
[09:03] <lampshade> nailer: isn't that on by default?  at least, I've noticed in my .bashrc that I have it enabled and not commented out.... unless there is even more than that?
[09:03] <narfmaster> java, you can just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[09:03] <Mortalman> And this "universe" repository isn't enabled by default why ??
[09:03] <Mortalman> Hyper: ^^
[09:03] <java> narfmaster ah.. i c
[09:04] <lampshade> java: no howto really needed.  Literally just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I think is all you'll need.  I did it before once and it was crazy easy
[09:04] <java> narfmaster why is my install so slow? i'm at 512 mb, 2.4 ghz laptop (sony vaio) ? is it b/c it's installing it from the cd rom?
[09:04] <Hyper> i wouldnt have a clue
[09:04] <Hyper> just enable it and problems solved :)
[09:04] <Mortalman> Madpilot:  And this "universe" repository isn't enabled by default why ??
[09:04] <narfmaster> java, what speed is it going?
[09:05] <java> narfmaster what you mean "speed" .. it's just seems slow..
[09:05] <Madpilot> Mortalman, because it doesn't get the same level of official support that the main & restricted repos do
[09:05] <java> narfmaster i'm thinking that's b/c it's running from the cd rom right?
[09:05] <Hyper> i knew that.
[09:05] <Hyper> was just testing you Madpilot
[09:05] <Hyper> :P
[09:05] <java> after install it should be kicking ass?
[09:05] <narfmaster> java, it could be but i have no idea what you mean by slow
[09:05] <Mortalman> Madpilot:  official support?   hmm
[09:05] <Madpilot> Mortalman, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[09:05] <Madpilot> read that URL ^^^
[09:06] <Mortalman> reading.....
[09:06] <java> narfmaster well.. don't you think 19 mins to install is slow? (it indicates 19 mins left.. 10 mins already passed)
[09:06] <narfmaster> java, that's a lot faster than the console installer
[09:06] <lampshade> that's pretty freaking fast--faster than windows installs that I remember
[09:06] <tga> hey, any idea how I can get the Gnome volume control to work with Headphone instead of Master?
[09:06] <tga> on this laptop the Master Volume doesn't do anthing
[09:07] <ardinary> I want to play a DVD I bought on my computer with xine.  Can someone assist me?  I get an error message: maybe you don't have rights, maybe there's no data.
[09:07] <manopulus> hello. i installing ubuntu at old laptop (toshiba libretto). currently there installed ubuntu-server - i will now replace kernel. what about desktop? pc is transmeta 900 mhz - it is like celeron 500. xfce or gnome? is xfce have enough features - where can look installed components
[09:07] <java> narfmaster hrm.. well that doesn't make sense.. since console supposed to be faster than heavyweight gui installer
[09:07] <afflux> morgen
[09:07] <Hyper> !dvd
[09:07] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:07] <ardinary> Thank you Hyper!
[09:07] <narfmaster> java, just trust me on that :)
[09:07] <Hyper> no worries sir :)
[09:07] <lampshade> tga: Yeah, right click the little speaker icon in the tray >> preferences >> choose it to control headphone
[09:07] <lampshade> and that's the best it can do... no way to control both that I know of... that's bugged me in the past
[09:08] <java> lampshade tci (total cost of install) for windows is like 1 year.. (if you include the sp's and patches)
[09:08] <basanta> was just wondering what is the secret behind ubuntu's capability of automounting wide range of thumb/flash drive over debian
[09:09] <java> yeah.. good question.. ubuntu seems to have some voodoo..
[09:09] <tga> lampshade, I meant the volume shortcuts
[09:09] <narfmaster> basanta, cutting-edge version of Gnome
[09:09] <Mortalman> URL for default ubuntu screenshots?
[09:09] <DrShade> Greetings!  I am wondering if anybody is familiar with loadlin?
[09:09] <basanta> narfmaster, is it just that ?
[09:09] <Hyper> Mortalman, google?
[09:09] <narfmaster> basanta, basically
[09:09] <lampshade> tga: Well, for me once I change that in the preferences to control headphones the volume up and down buttons on my laptop will change the vol up and down for the headphones...?  I might not be understanding you
[09:09] <tga> lampshade, whatever app handles the multimedia keys
[09:10] <basanta> narfmaster, depends on hal, udev, hotplug, kernel and gnome-volume-manager right ?
[09:10] <tga> lampshade, the volume control on the panel doesn't seem to have anything to do with the app that handles multimedia keys
[09:11] <wiking> what is this ' package architecture (powerpc) does not match system (i386)'
[09:11] <lampshade> hmm I don't know then, it does for mine.  Or at least, like I said, I can control mine that way by doing the prefs and telling it to control headphones... I dunno then
[09:11] <gmoore> Hyper: working now
[09:11] <narfmaster> basanta, it is complicated but for desktop it mainly depends on the desktop environment
[09:11] <skorm> What things should I change file permissions on if I'm gonna be a shell provider
[09:12] <narfmaster> basanta, for example XFCE is a little more difficult IIRC
[09:12] <wolfalfa> hello again,
[09:12] <DrShade> I'm trying to install Ubuntu through loadlin.  I have downloaded the initrd.gz and linux and loadlin files into c:\boot and restarted in DOS mode and typed the command and I get an error loading initrd.gz that there is less than 4mb of memory?  I have a Celeron 333 with 160 megs of ram.  Any ideas?
[09:12] <wolfalfa> having trouble configuring screen resolution on Dell e1505, could anyone help
[09:13] <skorm> DrShade, have you trade using the cdrom or anything, because loadlin is a last resort
[09:13] <wiking> what is this ' package architecture (powerpc) does not match system (i386)' ???? help!
[09:13] <skorm> wiking: describe your error better
[09:13] <ex-parrot> anyone know a PLF mirror that's actually working right now?
[09:13] <skorm> wiking: when it appears, what you are doing
[09:13] <DrShade> skorm, I don't have any spare CDRW's and I am not sure if this computer will even boot from a cd :(
[09:14] <wolfalfa> xorg.conf has the default 1280x800 however the resolution in X is 1024x768 and no other option is available
[09:14] <skorm> did you disable himsys from the dos boot.ini or autoexec bat?
[09:14] <skorm> DrShade:
[09:14] <lampshade> bash completion with ssh?  Anyone done that in here?  i can't get mine to complete :-/
[09:14] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to make WIndow Maker not suck?
[09:14] <ex-parrot> how do you mean lampshade?
[09:14] <basanta> narfmaster, but I have seen that same version of gnome on ubuntu is supporting more no of flash drives then than on debian, are you sure ubuntu doesn't do some extra twreaking?
[09:15] <wiking> skorm, i try to install automatix. Dwnload it and try install
[09:15] <Mortalman> Tonren: lol
[09:15] <Tonren> lampshade, are you trying to run something in the same path you're in?  If so, try prepending with ./
[09:15] <lampshade> ex-parrot: ssh d[tab]  won't complete the path I want
[09:15] <lampshade> err complete the server in known hosts
[09:15] <narfmaster> basanta, i've heard that Debian generally requires more user intervention but that is just to get things configured
[09:15] <skorm> lampshade: typo?
[09:15] <ex-parrot> oh, I didn't know it was even meant to do that
[09:15] <Tonren> Mortalman: It seems like such a great idea, but the docks and panels are in all the wrong places, there's no obvious way to move them, and the configuration settings are anemic.
[09:15] <Madpilot> wiking, please don't recommend automatix - it still breaks systems...
[09:15] <Tonren> Mortalman: I mean, it LOOKS really good..
[09:15] <DrShade> skorm, there is nothing about himsys in boot.ini or autoexec.bat?
[09:15] <ex-parrot> no idea lampshade sorry :P
[09:16] <lampshade> I read somewhere in the forum that it was because by default the hostnames are hashed, so I changed that, but it still doesn't seem to do any good :-/
[09:16] <nailer> lampshade: there's a package called 'bash-completion' is it installed?
[09:16] <wiking> madpilot, ok, thanx!
[09:16] <Mortalman> Tonren: You mean functionality-wise?
[09:16] <ex-parrot> DrShade: sure you don't mean himem.sys ?
[09:16] <Hyper> afk
[09:16] <ex-parrot> boot.ini doesn't load things either, it's an NT bootloader configuration file
[09:16] <Tonren> Mortalman: Yeah.
[09:16] <lampshade> nailer: that is enabled in my .bashrc, however, I don't even see a package by that name in the repos... so I'm not sure
[09:17] <lampshade> and I have a folder for in in /etc/  so pretty sure it is installed
[09:17] <nailer> i'm guessing should be in universe
[09:17] <ex-parrot> nobody knows a working mirror for PLF? main seems to be down, getting "Connection refused" and I get 404s on all the listed mirrors
[09:17] <nailer> ex-parrot: yeah me too
[09:17] <nailer> annoyiing isn't it?
[09:17] <ex-parrot> well, the few I tried at random
[09:17] <DrShade> Yes himem.sys, no mention of that in boot.ini or autoexec.bat?  Should I put like himem=off or something? heh
[09:18] <nailer> alas i don't know any mirrors either
[09:18] <ex-parrot> DrShade: himem.sys won't be in either
[09:18] <ex-parrot> on a DOS system it'll be loaded from config.sys
[09:18] <Tonren> I'd really like to be able to use Window Maker, but I can't figure out HOW to.
[09:18] <DrShade> I am running Win95 currently.
[09:18] <Tonren> When you maximize a window, it goes over your taskbar!
[09:18] <ex-parrot> DrShade: it loads config.sys automatically
[09:18] <nailer> ex-parrot: seetopic in #easyubunu
[09:18] <Tonren> And the system control panel dock takes up SO much space on the right side, and you can't move it!
[09:18] <Mortalman> Tonren: I havn't used WindowMaker since debian potato.  8-)
[09:18] <Tonren> Mortalman: I'm about to try out Kubuntu
[09:19] <Tonren> Mortalman: Know of a good Clipboard daemon for GNOME?
[09:19] <godtvisken> This kernel compile guide said I should do "make-kpkg -initrd --revision=<name> kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image" then "sudo dpkg -i <name of the file>". The first time it worked, but I am recompiling the kernel, what should I do? (the latter command gives me a warning about modules)
[09:19] <basanta> narfmaster, there is nothing mush user is asked as long as gnome-volume-manager is concerned
[09:19] <Mortalman> Tonren: I'm a fluxbox fan and gnome has gotten ugglier and ugglier in years.  8-/
[09:19] <rixth_> Yeah, I find that the default clipboard for GNOME sucks
[09:19] <ex-parrot> DrShade: what exactly are you trying to achievbe?
[09:20] <Tonren> Mortalman: Never heard of fluxbox, but I"m open to suggestions.  What's it do?
[09:20] <Tonren> rixth_: I'd just like something that logs everything that goes into it
[09:20] <narfmaster> basanta, i have no idea specifically how to explain it but you could email the developers and ask them
[09:20] <Mortalman> Tonren: It's a window manager like blackbox or openbox.
[09:20] <DrShade> ex-parrot, tryin to get loadlin to boot into the Ubuntu 6.06 installer.
[09:20] <ex-parrot> oh I see DrShade
[09:20] <Tonren> Mortalman: Never heard of those either.  (noob)  What pros and cons does it have over GNOME?
[09:20] <ex-parrot> and you need Windows to not load himem?
[09:20] <rixth_> Tonren, sounds like something you might have to write/modify yourself
[09:20] <DrShade> ex-parrot, I'm kinda confused what himem does?
[09:21] <Tonren> rixth_: No way.  I'm 100% positive there's something out there which does it already.
[09:21] <ex-parrot> DrShade: back in the good old says, you couldn't access more than the first 640k of RAM under DOS, Himem is a driver for apps that want to use XMS memory (memory above 1mb)
[09:21] <ex-parrot> it's very very vestigial under anything newer than dos 6.2
[09:21] <tmorrisey> 640k of RAM ought to be enough for anybody.
[09:22] <ex-parrot> indeed.
[09:22] <Mortalman> Tonren:  Very plain, uses almost no resources.  Menus are re-created as you click so changes to menu files are immedite.  Style are extremely simple.
[09:22] <Mortalman> Tonren:  Resources and not being cluttered are it's main features.
[09:22] <DrunkenPirate> Hi everyone. I have a quick question about adding my Windows XP Installation onto the grub menu.
[09:22] <DrunkenPirate> Here's the thing: I have windows installed on a disk called /dev/sda1. I added an entry to my grub menu.lst under (sda,0), but it didn't work. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[09:22] <narfmaster> ex-parrot, if you absolutely need the packages that plf supplies you could search for rpms and then do alien on them
[09:22] <Tonren> Mortalman: Mmm... I like the sound of that.  Fluxbox sounds like my kind of window manager
[09:23] <DrShade> ex-parrot, well loadlin gives a "less than 4mb System halted--" error message trying to load the initrd.gz in c:\boot :(
[09:23] <Desh> Linux has always said something like [xxxxxxxxxx]  PCI: failed to allocate mem resource at 000000000000@0 blah blah, twice at boot time. What would this be?
[09:23] <ex-parrot> narfmaster: I don't, I'm just setting up a laptop for someone and want to get codecs etc the easy way.. I can wait a few days though
[09:23] <Mortalman> Tonren: I love it, but it's not for everyone.
[09:23] <ex-parrot> DrShade: I see... which safe mode option aree you chosing in windows?
[09:23] <ex-parrot> one of them loads himem
[09:23] <ex-parrot> and one doesn't
[09:23] <DrunkenPirate> Can someone help me with disk drives. If hda = hd0 then sda=?
[09:23] <Tonren> Mortalman: I'm a huge fan of low-res, low-resource, ascetic computer usage
[09:23] <tmorrisey> Desh, I get the same message, are you using an older Apple laptop?
[09:23] <Madpilot> DrunkenPirate, sda1 or similar
[09:23] <Tmob> Desh, have a similar error here too. no clue what its for though
[09:23] <DrShade> ex-parrot, hmm, I just tried "Reboot into DOS" from the start menu.
[09:24] <Tonren> I love that kubuntu took 10 minutes ot install, and fluxbox 10 seconds
[09:24] <ex-parrot> oh yep
[09:24] <Tmob> tmorrisey, i'm on a new Dell D410
[09:24] <ex-parrot> try rebooting
[09:24] <Desh> Nah I'm using a modified Zcer laptop.
[09:24] <ex-parrot> and when it says "Starting Windows 95..."
[09:24] <ex-parrot> hit F8
[09:24] <Desh> *Acer
[09:24] <DrunkenPirate> Madpilot: Do you know what it would be when im trying to add it into the grub boot menu?
[09:24] <lampshade> nm I figured it out, you need to regenerate the known hosts.... in other words rm the known hosts file after turning off the hashing
[09:24] <DrunkenPirate> title		Microsoft Windows
[09:24] <DrunkenPirate> root		(sd1,0)
[09:24] <DrunkenPirate> savedefault
[09:24] <DrunkenPirate> makeactive
[09:24] <DrunkenPirate> chainloader	+1
[09:24] <ex-parrot> then choose "command prompt only" from the startup menu, DrShade
[09:24] <ex-parrot> that'll load himem
[09:24] <Madpilot> DrunkenPirate, not offhand - sorry
[09:24] <tmorrisey> Tmob, ha, there goes my theory, thought it had something to do with the funky video card setup in this iBook.
[09:24] <DrunkenPirate> Ok thanks.
[09:24] <Tonren> Mortalman: Gonna try out KDE and FluxBox now
[09:24] <DrShade> ex-parrot, I shall go give that a try :O) Thanks!
[09:24] <Desh> Tmob: It says like PCI and mem allocation resouce error or some garbage like that?
[09:24] <Mortalman> Tonren:  Sweet,  the 'styles' are in the menu when you right-click on the 'desktop', as is everything else.
[09:24] <ex-parrot> DrShade: reboot in to command prompt leaves nasty windows bits in RAM iirc :P
[09:24] <ex-parrot> good luck
[09:25] <lampshade> DrunkenPirate: I wonder the same thing as well.... my best guess is sata drives are sda?  I have no idea lol
[09:25] <DrunkenPirate> yea
[09:25] <ex-parrot> if thsat dfoesn't work, try "safe mode command prompt only" too DrShade
[09:25] <Tmob> Desh, yup.. at some pci 1e:00 or something which is my intel chipset device on lspci
[09:25] <DrunkenPirate> sata = sda, sdb, etc
[09:25] <Desh> Tmob not Tonren sorry
[09:25] <DrunkenPirate> but when I add it to grub it doesn't like it
[09:26] <Desh> Tmob: yeah I always wondered that, I would think it was like Ram or something but I dunno, none of that seems to be working wrong so I always ignored it.
[09:26] <lampshade> mine is an sda drive, I'm pretty sure, but it is still in my grub as hd0
[09:27] <lampshade> if that helps at all DrunkenPirate -- might just want to try it and see if it works on yours?    yeah my /dev/sda1 is my root drive and that's listed as hd0 in my grub
[09:27] <DrunkenPirate> humm
[09:27] <DrunkenPirate> lampshade so if the sata drive was the third drive than hd2 might work?
[09:27] <skorm> hmmm
[09:28] <DrunkenPirate> ok ill give it a whirl, thank you
[09:28] <poje> !ati >poje
[09:28] <lampshade> might work... yeah I don't know why as df tells me /dev/sda0 is my drive, but in my grub it is listed as hd0
[09:29] <narfmaster> lampshade, because it is defined in /boot/grub/device.map
[09:29] <godtvisken> How do I remove a linked directory?
[09:29] <lampshade> narfmaster: ahh  mention this to DrunkenPirate who is having some problems.  You can probably help them more than me then
[09:30] <DrunkenPirate> ahhh yes hd2 is my sda in /boot/grub/devices.map
[09:30] <lampshade> bam hahahaha
[09:30] <DrunkenPirate> so it should work then under hd2
[09:30] <DrunkenPirate> ahah thanks alot guys ill try it!
[09:33] <skorm> who want's to give me a hand for a second
[09:33] <someothernick> *claps*
[09:33] <skorm> preferbly someone thats good with hacking linux
[09:33] <ex-parrot> hah
[09:33] <ex-parrot> just ask away skorm
[09:34] <skorm> *with
[09:34] <someothernick> :)
[09:34] <skorm> I wanna make this gonna be shell server more secure
[09:34] <ex-parrot> right
[09:34] <skorm> So who ever wants to do it, i''l give shell access
[09:34] <ex-parrot> more secure than disabling unneccessary services and installing a firewall?
[09:34] <skorm> and you can stumb around a little bit, find holes
[09:35] <ex-parrot> do you mean secure from the internet, or secure from people with shell access?
[09:35] <skorm> secure from people with access
[09:35] <ex-parrot> ah I see
[09:35] <skorm> I've never been a shell provider
[09:35] <skorm> so a linux hacker
[09:35] <skorm> (or
[09:35] <ex-parrot> I think giving people shell access is generally considered a security hole in itself
[09:35] <skorm> *or
[09:35] <ex-parrot> otherwise I don't know sorry :P
[09:35] <DrShade> ex-parrot, hi again :O) Well, that got me past the initrd.gz loading error, now I get a new one :( "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown - block(0,0)" :(
[09:35] <ttyfscker> can someone help me with getting my webcam working.. it works in v4l2 apps like ekiga, but when i try to get the videochat i use to work it doesnt.. its a flash based video chat server.   what would be wrong that it will work in ekiga, but not in flash?
[09:35] <ex-parrot> DrShade: out of my league sorry
[09:35] <crimsun> skorm: that's probably a very unwise idea if you're running a Ubuntu kernel.
[09:36] <skorm> why's that crimsun
[09:36] <ex-parrot> skorm: may I suggest freeBSD ? :P
[09:36] <Hoxzer> ex-parrot: isn't there huge amount of "firms" that offer limited shell acces ;)
[09:36] <skorm> freebsd phails on here :(
[09:36] <narfmaster> skorm, the danger is your hacker may install a rootkit on your system
[09:36] <godtvisken> Does anyone know of a nice torrent program for linux like uTorrent in windows?
[09:36] <skorm> a root kit?
[09:36] <crimsun> skorm: namely we haven't rolled out either of the /proc patches applied that allow of fairly trivial privilege escalation
[09:36] <ex-parrot> godtvisken: Azureus is about the best they come, and it's available for linux
[09:36] <DrShade> ex-parrot, I understand.
[09:36] <narfmaster> godtvisken, you can use utorrent with Wine
[09:37] <skorm> k
[09:37] <DrShade> Anybody else can help me with loadlin loading Ubuntu 6.06 installer using a ramdisk?
[09:37] <narfmaster> godtvisken, just make sure you have the latest version of Wine
[09:37] <ex-parrot> skorm: a root kit is about the closest you get to a virus on unix
[09:37] <godtvisken> hrm
[09:37] <godtvisken> thanks both
[09:37] <java> what's the fundamental diff b/t the server and desktop version? from the d/l page it states the former is a permanent install and the latter is a temp/perm optional install.. ?
[09:37] <ex-parrot> generally it's where a system file gets replaced with a malicious version, skorm
[09:38] <Cntryboy> anyone know where to go to where I can download awesome screen savers, including like matrix style ect.. Kubuntu doesn't have them like gnome
[09:38] <ex-parrot> java: in dapper the desktop install option boots to a live CD and installs from there whereas the server one installs the "old way" in text mode afaik
[09:38] <narfmaster> java, desktop = graphical system
[09:38] <skorm> ex-parrot: but people wouldn't have those rights
[09:38] <java> narfmaster thanks... that be what i want then..
[09:39] <ex-parrot> skorm: in ubuntu the kernel has weaknesses that could give them the rights regardless
[09:39] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[09:39] <ex-parrot> tried the repositories Cntryboy?
[09:39] <Cntryboy> no how
[09:39] <skorm> why put these weekness in to start with?
[09:39] <ex-parrot> open Synaptic
[09:39] <Cntryboy> you mean by apt-get?
[09:39] <Cntryboy> kk its adept for me but ok
[09:40] <ex-parrot> sorry yeah
[09:40] <ex-parrot> skorm: they're not intentional, just haven't been fixed in ubuntu yet :P
[09:40] <Madpilot> skorm, it's not really a matter of "putting them in" as "not knowing they exist at first"
[09:40] <skorm> scarey
[09:40] <Cntryboy> k adept is up
[09:40] <ex-parrot> Cntryboy: have you enabled the universe repository?
[09:40] <Cntryboy> yes I got all repos done
[09:40] <ex-parrot> okay
[09:41] <narfmaster> skorm, it's nothing you can't reasonably work around
[09:41] <ex-parrot> how about some cursory searches for "screensaver" or something along those lines?
[09:41] <Cntryboy> cursory?
[09:41] <ex-parrot> uhm... "to start with"
[09:41] <Cntryboy> what is cursory mean
[09:41] <Cntryboy> does
[09:41] <ex-parrot> meaans "to start with"
[09:41] <ZorK-> What format does a disc have to be when it needs to have linux on it? NTFS, Fat32 orr...?
[09:42] <ex-parrot> ZorK-: any of several, ext3 is a good choice
[09:42] <Cntryboy> sorry im lost parrot.. if I'm wanting to search for matrix how wold I do it
[09:42] <Cntryboy> longgg day
[09:42] <Cntryboy> and i'm super tired
[09:42] <ex-parrot> try a search for "screen saver" or "screensaver"
[09:42] <ex-parrot> or "matrix"
[09:42] <Cntryboy> through adept?
[09:42] <skorm> see if anything comes up
[09:42] <ex-parrot> yeah, through adaam_
[09:42] <SirGrok> I am playing with conky
[09:42] <ex-parrot> er
[09:42] <ex-parrot> adept
[09:42] <Cntryboy> k
[09:42] <ex-parrot> (tab is too close to a :))
[09:43] <Cntryboy> I see serveral matrix
[09:43] <Cntryboy> but how do I know if its screen saver or not
[09:43] <Hoxzer> OOOOH babeee babe babe it's a wild wooorld
[09:43] <skorm> hmm
[09:43] <skorm> whats proc used for?
[09:43] <ex-parrot> been a long time since I used adept, can it display the package descruption somehow?
[09:43] <ex-parrot> skorm: /proc you mean?
[09:44] <skorm> yeah
[09:44] <eXCeSS> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215161
[09:44] <ex-parrot> information, as far as I know
[09:44] <Lobster> Guten Morgen allerseits
[09:44] <ZorK-> So.. Yesterday i tried installing with LiveCD - no use. So today i downloaded the Alternate Install CD, and booted from that. I went trhough the install, untill the part where i need to partitioning - no use. It said that the partitioning had failed. So i tried doing it again, still no use... My other harddiscs are in /media/* and i have a swap drive and i made a / drive .. then i want to format them both, but then it fails.. Huh?!
[09:44] <ZorK-> Anyone else have that problem?
[09:44] <timbobsteve> Cntryboy: apt-cache search matrix | grep screensaver
[09:44] <Cntryboy> i clicked on each file and it tells what each is
[09:44] <Cntryboy> anyone done the font of matrix though
[09:45] <ex-parrot> more specific error messages ZorK-?
[09:45] <Cntryboy> said it will chagne font in xterm
[09:45] <skorm> either way, I'm still aerning by attempting to do this
[09:45] <Cntryboy> anyone tried it
[09:45] <ZorK-> it just said that it failed, so i could go back and try again.
[09:45] <timbobsteve> ZorK-: sounds like a similar one I had... except it was the GUI installer that was messing up the partitions... it wanted to touch all disks... I wanted hda left alone...
[09:45] <godtvisken> How do I apply a kernel patch?
[09:45] <ex-parrot> skorm: always a great idea
[09:45] <timbobsteve> Cntryboy: there is no matrix screensaver that I can see in the repo...
[09:45] <ZorK-> timbobsteve: the GUI installer dont work for me either
[09:45] <DrShade> Anybody can help me with loadlin and installing Ubuntu 6.06?  I get a kernel-panic about unable to mount root fs on unknown-block.  I have root=/dev/rd/0
[09:46] <timbobsteve> ZorK-: it tool me a while to get the installer to get past the partitioning step
[09:46] <Cntryboy> timbobsteve: I do
[09:46] <Cntryboy> it's called cmatrix
[09:46] <narfmaster> godtvisken, with Synaptic or apt-get or whatever you use
[09:46] <timbobsteve> DrShade: It seems that the device you are pointing to with boot= doesn't exist... make sure you have the correct device name
[09:46] <Cntryboy> I installed it and right clicked on desktop/screensaver and it's not listed :( how do I find it
[09:46] <ex-parrot> cmatrix is a CLI app
[09:46] <ex-parrot> not an xscreensaver screensaver
[09:46] <ttyfscker> so nobody knows how to get a webcam that only works on v4l2 layer to work with v4l1 apps?
[09:46] <timbobsteve> Cntryboy: cmatrix is a console font
[09:47] <ex-parrot> there is a matrix screensaver in the repos I'm sure
[09:47] <ex-parrot> it's probably in a pack with a whole lot of other ones
[09:47] <Cntryboy> oh
[09:47] <DrShade> timbobsteve, what is /dev/rd/0 ?  I am trying to use a ramdisk.
[09:47] <godtvisken> narfmaster: Well, ubuntu doesn't have a new enough kernel for what I need to do, so I downloaded source from kernel.org, but now I want to patch that source to even newer source
[09:47] <ex-parrot> I had it runninbg on an imac
[09:47] <Cntryboy> how does it work then
[09:47] <Cntryboy> my terminal looks the same
[09:47] <godtvisken> narfmaster: unless ubuntu does have a 2.6.16+ kernel
[09:47] <ex-parrot> type in
[09:47] <ex-parrot> cmatrix
[09:47] <ex-parrot> press enter
[09:47] <ex-parrot> enjoy :P
[09:47] <Cntryboy> k
[09:47] <Cntryboy> thx
[09:47] <timbobsteve> Cntryboy: apt-get install XScreensaver-data might have it
[09:48] <Cntryboy> timbob what does that do get all the screen savers as a list
[09:48] <Cntryboy> so it will show in adept?
[09:48] <timbobsteve> DrShade: Not sure about ramdisks, but it seems that /dev/rd/0 doesn't exist.. or atleast the ramdisk doesn't contain a kernel
[09:48] <narfmaster> !kernel
[09:48] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:49] <timbobsteve> Cntryboy: No it installs all the Xscreensaver data... I think the matrix one might be in there...
[09:49] <ex-parrot> might kscreensaver-xsavers be a good start?
[09:49] <godtvisken> narfmaster: Well.. I need a 2.6.16+ to support the Rio Karma..
[09:49] <Cntryboy> timbobsteve: I thought It would let me type commands in wierd fot the cmatrix, but I guess its just a small screensaver scroll lol
[09:49] <ex-parrot> KDE it seems has its own screensaver daemon
[09:49] <Cntryboy> timbobsteve: is it big im on 2.1KB
[09:49] <timbobsteve> ex-parrot: I think they are all just frontends for Xscreensaver
[09:49] <ex-parrot> oh ok
[09:49] <timbobsteve> Cntryboy: I know how you feel :P
[09:49] <ex-parrot> I dislike KDE so I've never got as far as configuring screensavers on it :P
[09:50] <timbobsteve> ex-parrot: I feel the same way
[09:50] <Cntryboy> I like kde
[09:50] <godtvisken> Does Ubuntu have a 2.6.16+ kernel?
[09:50] <Cntryboy> gnome was ehhh
[09:50] <ex-parrot> kwin is nice
[09:50] <threat> hi
[09:50] <narfmaster> godtvisken, is Edgy
[09:50] <threat> quick question, does ./configure generate all Makefiles?
[09:50] <threat> I changed my CXXFLAG env var, I do another ./configure but it hasn't updated the CXXFLAGS in each Makefile
[09:50] <ex-parrot> but KDE is tres ugly
[09:50] <narfmaster> godtvisken, in Edgy that is
[09:50] <Cntryboy> timbobsteve: how big is that xscreensaver data ect
[09:50] <ex-parrot> threat: just a guess, try make clean then configure again?
[09:50] <narfmaster> godtvisken, but Edgy is still highly unstable at the moment
[09:51] <threat> ex-parrot, I tried that
[09:51] <threat> ex-parrot, no go
[09:51] <threat> I am trying to compile mysql
[09:51] <lampshade> yeah looks like 2.6.15 in Dapper repos according to a quick apt-cache search
[09:51] <godtvisken> narfmaster: hm.. so it looks like i must compile it myself
[09:51] <ex-parrot> okay then, no idea threat :P
[09:51] <threat> ex-parrot, do I need to use the export program?
[09:51] <narfmaster> godtvisken, have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild ?
[09:51] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to get cmatrix-xfont working?
[09:51] <ex-parrot> threat: don't know... any reason why you can't run the binary mysql in the rpo?
[09:52] <lampshade> haha there was a time once when I would compile stuff like apache by hand simply because I didn't know it existed in the repos... sad but true..
[09:52] <ex-parrot> ouch
[09:52] <threat> because there are no mysql binaries available for solaris 5.9
[09:52] <ex-parrot> oh
[09:52] <timbobsteve> threat: you should be able to pass CFLAGS to ./configure e.g. "./configure --fomit-frame-pointer --enable-x" etc
[09:52] <ex-parrot> why are you in the ubuntu channel if you're running solaris threat? :P
[09:52] <godtvisken> narfmaster: yeah
[09:53] <lampshade> Anyone use firestarter?  Is that just a frontend for IPtables?  I'm pretty sure it is, but not 100% sure
[09:53] <threat> ex-parrot, I am a ubuntu user too :P  plus the solaris channels have no one in them, and if there are ppl in there they are normally idle,  plus I am not asking a solaris specific question
[09:53] <ex-parrot> lampshade: it is
[09:53] <lampshade> cool
[09:53] <ex-parrot> true threat, doesn't bother me at all
[09:53] <anne_> hi! can anyone tell me where the text-mode installer puts its logfile?
[09:54] <syn-ack> threat: No, this is more of a GCC question though.
[09:54] <Tonren> Who knows how to use Dekorator once it's installed? I asked in Kubuntu but no one answered
[09:54] <Cntryboy> Okay back
[09:54] <anne_> i thought it would be in /var/log/installer, but it's not there
[09:54] <threat> syn-ack, yep
[09:54] <Cntryboy> xgl restarted x i guess I hit shift and something  lol shitf and enter I though odd
[09:54] <threat> syn-ack, there is a gcc channel ?
[09:54] <syn-ack> aye
[09:54] <LoneShadow> making the rootfs read only is a pain, anyone have a good /etc/fstab for read only rootfs ?
[09:54] <Cntryboy> ex-parrot: how do I get cmatrix-xfont working where I can type in terminal with green font ect
[09:54] <skorm> I looked at another shell provided to find there /proc was hidden, is this safe, and how would a archieve this
[09:54] <ex-parrot> Cntryboy: don't know... try changing the font configuration of your terminal app :P
[09:55] <sri_> anne_, try user proc
[09:55] <timbobsteve> Cntryboy: what terminal emulator do u use?
[09:55] <Cntryboy> how would I do that
[09:55] <syn-ack> threat: should be #gcc, but heres the thing, you more than likely wont get a warm recception since all this is covered in the gcc manuel
[09:55] <godtvisken> How do I know which version 'git' gets?
[09:55] <SanketMedhi> hello people
[09:55] <timbobsteve> SanketMedhi: Hi
[09:55] <kungfuhamster> hiya
[09:55] <SanketMedhi> my Ctrl+Alt+F1 stopped working
[09:55] <SanketMedhi> any ideas?
[09:55] <GloomyKnight> hi
[09:55] <anne_> sri_: what is user proc and how do i try it? :-)
[09:55] <ex-parrot> woah gterm is tabbed
[09:55] <timbobsteve> SanketMedhi: you got nvidia drivers or card ?
[09:56] <SanketMedhi> yes
[09:56] <DrShade> Anybody can help me with loadlin and installing Ubuntu 6.06?  I get a kernel-panic about unable to mount root fs on unknown-block.  I have root=/dev/rd/0
[09:56] <skorm> SanketMedhi: bash keyboard really hard
[09:56] <Cntryboy> shell konsole I guess
[09:56] <ex-parrot> SanketMedhi: I think that's defined in mtab
[09:56] <sri_> cd /user/proc
[09:56] <threat> syn-ack, I see
[09:56] <syn-ack> SanketMedhi: Please do us the favor of being more vauge. Thanks
[09:56] <timbobsteve> SanketMedhi: thats a known problem with nvidia drivers...
[09:56] <sri_> anne_, search in it
[09:56] <anne_> sri_: aah, i see, thanks!
[09:56] <chicken_Fire> HI, I created a new java project, where could I host it? I know sourceforge.net and dev.java.net, but both see to use cvs, and I want svn.
[09:56] <java> what's the root password for a fresh install?
[09:56] <SanketMedhi> timbobsteve: everything was working till 2 days back
[09:56] <skorm> java: sudo passwd
[09:56] <ex-parrot> java:  there isn't one, root is locked
[09:56] <threat> syn-ack, is this covered in the gcc manual? ---->    sql_analyse.cc: In member function 'virtual void field_longlong::add()':
[09:56] <threat> sql_analyse.cc:604: internal compiler error: in ?, at jump.c:1719
[09:56] <syn-ack> java: there isnt one. read the docs
[09:56] <kungfuhamster> I've got a GNOME problem and I'm hoping someone here can give me a hand with it. Whenever I attempt to log into my non-XGL enabled GNOME, the system loads the desktop, brings up a window saying the GNOME and Xorg keyboard layouts don't match and asks which I would prefer. Before I can choose, the screen goes black and I get dumped back to GDM. Attempting to log in the non-XGL enabled GNOME freezes the machine, requiring a reboot. I know i
[09:56] <kungfuhamster> t's not an XGL issue; it's a screwup on my part. How can I fix this?
[09:56] <java> ex-parrot err.. how do i unlock it?
[09:56] <ZorK-> The root it just / isnt it?
[09:56] <Mortalman> Tonren:  So how do you like fluxbox?
[09:56] <timbobsteve> SanketMedhi: hmmm did you upgrade drivers
[09:57] <ex-parrot> java, sudo passwd
[09:57] <anne_> sri_: hey wait,
[09:57] <SanketMedhi> ex-parrot: can you tell me what I can do to get it working?
[09:57] <ex-parrot> from terminal
[09:57] <Tonren> Mortalman: Haven't tried it yet, still tooling around with KDE
[09:57] <anne_> sri_: there's no such directory
[09:57] <kungfuhamster> sheesh... sorry about the huge text block there, guys   :)
[09:57] <SanketMedhi> timbobsteve: they are upgraded
[09:57] <java> ?
[09:57] <ex-parrot> however, using root isn't recommended
[09:57] <Tonren> Mortalman: The theme thing for KDE isn't very intuitive
[09:57] <skorm> java: as i said, under an account sudo passwd
[09:57] <sri_> anne_, 1min
[09:57] <java> you mean psuedo ?
[09:57] <anne_> sri_: and what would the log be doing there anyway?
[09:57] <narfmaster> ZorK-, / = root
[09:57] <SanketMedhi> timbobsteve: but what does nvidia drivers have to do with that?
[09:57] <Cntryboy> timbobsteve: its shell konsole I guess if thats what you mean by console emulator
[09:57] <syn-ack> threat: No, but its obvious what thats saying
[09:57] <skorm> !root
[09:57] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:57] <threat> syn-ack, yes, there is a bug in gcc :\
[09:57] <Mortalman> Tonren: Yeah, KDE's theme have gotten crappier over the years.
[09:58] <timbobsteve> SanketMedhi: it might have been that upgrade that caused the problem... search the bug list for ubuntu and you will find a heap mentioning tty nvidia and terminal problems with the newer drivers
[09:58] <sri_> anne_, what is u r actual prob?
[09:58] <SanketMedhi> timbobsteve: ok
[09:58] <Tonren> Mortalman: Well, it seems like they'd look just fine if I could only install them.
[09:58] <syn-ack> threat: doubt it, Im sure its more like there a bug in that copy of MySQL
[09:58] <timbobsteve> Cntryboy: konsole is an emulator for the terminal... it is known as a terminal emulator... so is xterm and gnome-term etc... and eterm
[09:58] <Mortalman> Tonren: I think you select the tar.gx file as the theme and not the files inside the tar.gz
[09:58] <anne_> sri_: i'm not sure my install completed correctly. i left the computer, and when i returned it seemed to have hung
[09:59] <Tonren> Mortalman: But I don't even know where to GO to select themes.
[09:59] <anne_> sri_: but the system works fine, so I just want to look at the installer log
[09:59] <Cntryboy> timbobsteve: okay so how would I get cmatrix-xfont working with it :(
[09:59] <Mortalman> Tonren: Control Center
[09:59] <sri_> anne_, what is u r operating system??
[09:59] <anne_> sri_: dapper
[09:59] <timbobsteve> Cntryboy: no idea i use Terminal (xfce4 terminal emulator)... each one is different... try the kde forums or wiki
[09:59] <Tonren> Mortalman: What is that?  How do I get to it?
[10:00] <threat> syn-ack, in mysql-5.0.22?
[10:00] <Mortalman> Tonren: In the K menu somewhere.  idk
[10:00] <anne_> sri_: on breezy iirc it was in /var/log/installer, but I don't see anything there here.
[10:00] <timbobsteve> Tonren: if you are running gnome or kde it is in there by default
[10:00] <ex-parrot> anyone know how I can make gterminal open a new tab rather than a new window?
[10:00] <ex-parrot> by default
[10:00] <Tonren> timbobsteve: That's curious, becuase it didn't tell me it was already installed when I did sudo apt-get install dekorator
[10:00] <hafsal> I have a problem with Azureuz, the warning box won't close. Im getting warnings because it didnt shut down tidily, but the warning box's wont close and it covers up somesome ofmydesktop
[10:00] <lampshade> ex-parrot:  ctrl+shift+t right?
[10:00] <syn-ack> threat: and please keep in mind, Im being very nice to you ATM so dont get an attitude toward me or else I will get that way back. And you're lucky Im helping you with that issue.
[10:00] <sri_> anne_, locate installer
[10:00] <sri_> anne_, try it
[10:00] <Cntryboy> :( grr
[10:01] <syn-ack> threat: yes, thats what I said isnt it?
[10:01] <threat> syn-ack, ok, point noted
[10:01] <ex-parrot> lampshade: what?
[10:01] <threat> syn-ack, thank you for your assistanc
[10:01] <threat> e
[10:01] <Gasten> Ehm.. how od I get a *.x86 to run?
[10:01] <lampshade> ex-parrot: nevermind, I didn't see the default part
[10:01] <sri_> anne_, got it??
[10:01] <anne_> sri_: that gives me one result related to gnome-app-install and four which are just some icons. so nothing relevant.
[10:01] <lampshade> ex-parrot: for opening the gterminal tabs
[10:01] <ex-parrot> oh I see
[10:01] <syn-ack> threat: isnt that version of MySQL a developmental verson as it is?
[10:01] <anne_> sri_: do you have a /var/log/installer or similar on your system?
[10:01] <GloomyKnight> who has install an ubuntu in hp notebook?
[10:01] <ex-parrot> I have "windows key" mapped to open a terminal, and I usually get way too many in my taskbar
[10:01] <timbobsteve> Gasten: I don't think that extension is an executable.... try ./*.x86
[10:01] <ex-parrot> GloomyKnight: I'm using one right now
[10:02] <manopulus> Uncompressing Linux.... Ok, booting the kernel - system freezing at this state. Server and reinstalled 5 times :)
[10:02] <anne_> sri_: because then it would appear my install died before writing its log
[10:02] <lampshade> ex-parrot: oooh tricky.. I see what you mean now.  Haha, yeah, I have it mapped to windowskey+ctrl
[10:02] <timbobsteve> manopulus: is that a question or a statement?
[10:02] <GloomyKnight> which type you book is?
[10:02] <sri_> anne_, ya
[10:02] <syn-ack> threat: Besides, why the hell are you even trying to compile it to start with? you do know that there are packages for that, right?
[10:02] <Gasten> timbobsteve: Ok
[10:02] <anne_> sri_: you have it?
[10:03] <GloomyKnight> parrot
[10:03] <ex-parrot> GloomyKnight: I've got it on my Presario 2100 and this Presario 1200, the 2100 is an HP machine by virtue of the fact that Compaq and HP are the same company :P
[10:03] <syn-ack> Ill be damned
[10:03] <threat> syn-ack, yes I know that, although I am not the admin on the box I want to run it on
[10:03] <threat> syn-ack, it is a uni server and I doubt the admin wants to install that for me
[10:03] <GloomyKnight> my book compaq nc6000
[10:03] <threat> syn-ack, no, stable
[10:03] <sri_> anne_, i have var/log/installer     var/log/installer/syslog       var/log/installer/partman
[10:03] <threat> 5.1 is devel
[10:03] <ex-parrot> okay GloomyKnight, there shouldn't be any reason it won't work...
[10:03] <syn-ack> threat: lemme guess you want to run a bnc and you dont want your admin to know about that dont you?
[10:04] <sri_> anne_, and icons
[10:04] <lampshade> bnc?
[10:04] <threat> syn-ack, lol, no I want to run a mysql server for a uni project I am working on
[10:04] <GloomyKnight> my wireless light is always enable
[10:04] <GloomyKnight> i want to shutdown it
[10:04] <GloomyKnight> but i can
[10:04] <GloomyKnight> i can
[10:04] <ex-parrot> GloomyKnight: mine too, can't do anything about it that I can find
[10:04] <anne_> sri_: i have none of those. damn, this is the second time i try to install dapper on this laptop, and the same thing happens
[10:04] <manopulus> timbobsteve, it is cry of soul :)
[10:04] <GloomyKnight> i can't
[10:04] <ex-parrot> other than boot in to windows and turn it off :P
[10:04] <threat> syn-ack, and since when does bnc require mysql?
[10:04] <timbobsteve> manopulus: LOL
[10:04] <syn-ack> threat: then ask the admin and explain that to him just like you did me, Im sure he'll install it
[10:04] <GloomyKnight> hehe
[10:04] <manopulus> timbobsteve, now trying breezy - was ok for that laptop
[10:04] <threat> syn-ack, hmmm
[10:05] <GloomyKnight> parrot can i add you?
[10:05] <timbobsteve> anyone know if the macbook/MBP wireless card is supported under linux?
[10:05] <sri_> anne_, ok;cool try another time no problem
[10:05] <DrShade> Anybody can help me with loadlin and installing Ubuntu 6.06?  I get a kernel-panic about unable to mount root fs on unknown-block.  I have root=/dev/rd/0
[10:05] <ex-parrot> timbobsteve: I don't think it is
[10:05] <syn-ack> hell, its not like he cant ask your professor if its true, threat.
[10:05] <ex-parrot> it's a broadcom and there are no open source drivers afaik
[10:05] <anne_> sri_: the system works fine, i'm just uncomfortable about using a system where the install didn't complete...
[10:05] <timbobsteve> ex-parrot: damn... I love those little babies... they are so sexy...
[10:05] <ex-parrot> timbobsteve: I know :P
[10:05] <sri_> anne_,you said that u r system is working properly....
[10:05] <kungfuhamster> I've got a GNOME problem and I'm hoping someone here can give me a hand with it. Whenever I attempt to log into my non-XGL GNOME session, the system loads the desktop, brings up a window saying the GNOME and Xorg keyboard layouts don't match and asks which I would prefer. Before I can choose, the screen goes black and I get dumped back to GDM. Attempting to log in the non-XGL GNOME session freezes the machine, requiring a reboot. How can
[10:05] <kungfuhamster> I fix this?
[10:06] <anne_> sri_: yeah, as far as i can tell from 30 minutes usage...
[10:06] <ex-parrot> oh wait timbobsteve, I don't know about the macbook pro
[10:06] <timbobsteve> kungfuhamster: you already asked that... no one knew the answer... so no one said anything... sorry dude... I don't think anyone knows
[10:06] <ex-parrot> I bet you could use ndiswrapper
[10:06] <anne_> sri_: i think i'll reinstall and watch the install this time so i know where it hangs
[10:06] <sri_> anne_, it is u r initial?
[10:06] <ex-parrot> I was thinking about the old PPC powerbooks timbobsteve
[10:06] <lampshade> kungfuhamster: hmmm I used to see that message, but it never locked my machine... I would guess that message isn't the real cause of the lockup... hmm
[10:06] <anne_> sri_: or maybe i'll just use the live cd installer insteat
[10:06] <sri_> anne_, u r sir name?
[10:06] <anne_> sri_: initial what?
[10:06] <timbobsteve> ex-parrot: its an intel pro wireless card... do they work ?
[10:06] <phunkalicious> ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:07] <anne_> sri_: huh?
[10:07] <ex-parrot> oh, I don't know timbobsteve
[10:07] <ex-parrot> sorry :P
[10:07] <ex-parrot> all I know is that the old ppc macs didn't have supported wireless, forgot that the macbook was different
[10:07] <GloomyKnight> parrot are you here?
[10:07] <timbobsteve> ex-parrot: no probs... just thinking of buying one... will prob go for a nice white g4 ibook tho
[10:07] <ex-parrot> yes GloomyKnight?
[10:07] <ex-parrot> mm yeah timbobsteve, they run Ubuntu well
[10:08] <Cntryboy> Anyone know how to get cmatrix-xfont working?
[10:08] <timbobsteve> ex-parrot: hmmm might look at getting one of those... about $700 cheaper too
[10:08] <ex-parrot> yeah :) in my completely subjective opinion, ubuntu runs faster for the same mhz on ppc than it does on x86
[10:09] <ex-parrot> I've never really tested it, but that was my experience running breezy on a 350mhz iMac vs a 400mhz Pentium II
[10:09] <anne_> sri_: i'm off to reinstall. thanks for your help!
[10:09] <sri_> anne_, np
[10:09] <mikeymike-linux> can someone tell me why my fstab isn't working i know i have it ALMOST right.......
[10:09] <GloomyKnight> parrot
[10:09] <GloomyKnight> can i add you
[10:09] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: pm me about it
[10:09] <ex-parrot> yo GloomyKnight
[10:10] <ex-parrot> add me in what GloomyKnight?
[10:10] <mikeymike-linux> okay thanks
[10:10] <Sbisolo> Hi all, I have a weird problem with apt-get: when I try an apt-get update it can'nt get packages list because resolves addresses with an 1.0.0.0
[10:10] <GloomyKnight> you like waht chat program expect irc
[10:10] <ex-parrot> oh GloomyKnight, sure thing, I've got an MSN account and AIM
[10:10] <mcrandello> does anyone know the version of madwifi that's in the dapper livecd?
[10:10] <mikeymike-linux> timbobsteve, are you getting my query ?
[10:10] <timbobsteve> Sbisolo: what doe cat /etc/resolve produce...
[10:11] <GloomyKnight> did you like use jabber?
[10:11] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: no... I will pm you... gaim must be playing silly buggers
[10:11] <ex-parrot> GloomyKnight: sorry, I don't use jabber much at all
[10:11] <mikeymike-linux> ok timbobsteve
[10:11] <mcrandello> I actually pico'd the kernel module and saw 0.9.6.0(EXPERIMENTAL) but I can't find that for download anywhere on the madwifi site
[10:11] <GloomyKnight> could tell me your msn or aim id
[10:11] <ex-parrot> sure
[10:11] <Sbisolo> timbobsteve- I tried to remove router address as nameserver and disabled IPv6
[10:12] <GloomyKnight> come on parrot
[10:12] <ex-parrot> I PMed it to you GloomyKnight
[10:12] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: you getting that msg
[10:12] <mikeymike-linux> timbobsteve, nope
[10:12] <GloomyKnight> sry what's means of PMed?
[10:12] <ex-parrot> private message
[10:12] <mikeymike-linux> timbobsteve, want me to paste it on ubuntu paste
[10:12] <ex-parrot> I'll just say it in here, I don't care much
[10:12] <ex-parrot> "ParrotMonty"
[10:13] <poje> Question: is the ATI package only functional for one of the kernel images? like would booting into -23-386 work while being in my -26-686 won't?
[10:13] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: what is the ubuntu paste channel ?
[10:13] <mikeymike-linux> timbobsteve, its a website
[10:13] <timbobsteve> ahhh
[10:13] <mikeymike-linux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:13] <sri_> Sbisolo, how can u remove it?
[10:13] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: go for it
[10:13] <mikeymike-linux> i will paste u will see it on the right or i will give you the url
[10:13] <mcrandello> poje: maybe more like downgrading to 2.6.12 if you have a 200m express
[10:14] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: paste away
[10:14] <mikeymike-linux> timbobsteve, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18138
[10:14] <Sbisolo> simply modified resolve.conf and deleted "nameserver 192.168.1.1"
[10:14] <GloomyKnight> parrot you MSN address is?
[10:14] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: and what seems to be the problem with this fstab file ?
[10:14] <mikeymike-linux> the last 2 lines dont work
[10:14] <lezombi> i really need help installing Belkin F5D7001 on ubuntu
[10:15] <poje> mcrandello: the dapper iso is .15-23-386, I assumed the package for it would be at least for that version...but it _would_ help make my stuff work? My error in xorg.0.log is about the module/driver versions mismatching
[10:15] <sri_> lezombi, what is Belkin??
[10:15] <poje> mcrandello: and the card is a X800SE
[10:15] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: i noticed the umask settings in there... I wasn't aware that fstab took calls to umask
[10:15] <lezombi> a wireless card. for internet
[10:15] <mikeymike-linux> timbobsteve, does it? or not?
[10:15] <timbobsteve> sri_: a brand of networking gear
[10:15] <java> after typing "sudo -i" in a terminal and then putting in my pw, running "./j2sdk.bin" says "Permission denied"
[10:15] <java> any ideas?
[10:16] <mikeymike-linux> maybe thats why it doesn't work
[10:16] <lezombi> can someone help me?
[10:16] <yipe> ..... it's time for bed
[10:16] <mcrandello> poje: in that case you'll probably just need to rebuild the fglrx kernel module
[10:16] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: not to my knowledge... I think there is other syntax
[10:16] <mikeymike-linux> ok
[10:16] <mikeymike-linux> so i should take it out
[10:16] <mikeymike-linux> what about -o owner
[10:16] <ardchoille> java: chmod u+x ./j2sdk.bin ?
[10:16] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: 2 seconds I will scoure man fstab ;)
[10:16] <mikeymike-linux> i did the same
[10:16] <mikeymike-linux> i dont understand the man file :()
[10:16] <mikeymike-linux> :(
[10:16] <java> ardchoille thanks..
[10:16] <lampshade> java: what are you trying to do exactly?  I'm confused.  java is in the repos now  so if you are trying to install it... repos would be a better, faster way I think
[10:17] <java> lampshade install jdk
[10:17] <mikeymike-linux> ls
[10:17] <mikeymike-linux> woops wrong window haha
[10:17] <ex-parrot> timbobsteve: fstab can have umask settings
[10:17] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, would you mind helping me?
[10:17] <ex-parrot> I had to use umask=0222 on my NTFS mount for some reason
[10:17] <java> is there a "right" or "correct" place to install the jdk ?
[10:17] <Gasten> if I get "Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem" when I try to load a game, is there something I should update to succeed?
[10:18] <ex-parrot> mikeymike-linux: how can I help?
[10:18] <Sbisolo> no suggestions?
[10:18] <ardchoille> java: lampshade has a point, do apt-cache search jdk
[10:18] <onorin> anyone experience with FUSE or NTFS-3g here ?
[10:18] <java> i know linux has a structured directory structure
[10:18] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18138
[10:18] <ex-parrot> give me a moment
[10:18] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: check out the options for "man mount".... they are the options you can use for the fourth field in /etc/fstab.... umask isn't one of them
[10:18] <java> ardchoille is apt-cache in the docs?
[10:18] <onorin> I am getting the following error : ntfs-3g.c:28:18: error: fuse.h: No such file or directory  while installing ntfs-3g
[10:18] <mikeymike-linux> timbobsteve, okay
[10:18] <lezombi> i need help in getting my belkin card to work.. i get to the point where it says it is installed and hardware is present and stuff.. but the wlan0 wont show up
[10:19] <ardchoille> java: not sure, apt-cache search is just searching the repos for an app
[10:19] <ex-parrot> mikeymike-linux: take out that -o perhaps
[10:19] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: wait... my appologies... further down in man it is an option.... but I am not sure it works with /etc/fstab
[10:19] <onorin> ex-parrot, have you tried ntfs-3g
[10:19] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, hmm ok
[10:19] <lampshade> java: just type at a console: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[10:19] <ex-parrot> generally that's passed to mount to tewll it thgat the next bit is options, but you don't need it in fstabv
[10:19] <ardchoille> java: there is a manpage for apt-cache btw
[10:19] <ex-parrot> blah this kleyboatrd is horrid
[10:19] <timbobsteve> mikeymike-linux: do you want to set them (file mounts) to read-only ?
[10:19] <ex-parrot> onorin: no..
[10:19] <java> ardchoille thanks
[10:20] <ex-parrot> you need umask=0222 for ntfs mounts timbobsteve
[10:20] <ardchoille> java: You're welcome :)
[10:20] <mikeymike-linux> timbobsteve, of course because they are only ntfs
[10:20] <ex-parrot> I don't remember why
[10:20] <syncmaster> lezombi: Tried with ndiswrapper?
[10:20] <fivre> how does one modify the login screen theme in xfce?
[10:20] <mikeymike-linux> look my fstab editing is really crude
[10:20] <onorin> Anyone here tried ntfs-3g ?
[10:20] <mikeymike-linux> look my fstab editing is really crude i basically copied the command to mount them and pasted it in there hoping it would work
[10:20] <ex-parrot> ahh yeah
[10:20] <ex-parrot> remove the -o
[10:20] <ex-parrot> that's your problem
[10:20] <lampshade> apt-cache search progname will search for programs and sudo apt-get install programname will download and install it for you.  you can also use the graphic version in the System >> Administration >> Synaptic
[10:20] <ex-parrot> and add 0 0
[10:20] <ex-parrot> at the end of the line
[10:20] <ex-parrot> or maybe 0 2
[10:20] <syn-ack> onorin: I dont see what the relivence of that question in this channel.
[10:21] <ex-parrot> I don't remember what those paremters do but you need them
[10:21] <hafsal> I have a problem with Azureuz, the warning box won't close. Im getting warnings because it didnt shut down tidily, but the warning box's wont close and it covers up somesome ofmydesktop
[10:21] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, yeah is it 0 0 or 0 2
[10:21] <mikeymike-linux> i know i have to add those
[10:21] <enuonge> hi
[10:21] <ex-parrot> let me check man fstab for a sec :P
[10:21] <ex-parrot> it's been a while
[10:21] <onorin> syn-ack, the reason is I am trying to install ntfs-3g driver to my ubuntu installation and I am having problems. And I am looking for a solution in this channel. Is this clear ?
[10:21] <ardchoille> lampshade: Thank you for that info.. I'm still learning about APT
[10:22] <timbobsteve> enuonge: hi
[10:22] <mikeymike-linux> pass is to check the file at startup?
[10:22] <ex-parrot> ah ok mikeymike-linux, 0 0 is fine
[10:22] <ex-parrot> I'll paste back in for you what I think should work
[10:22] <java> funny.. the "synaptic package manager" doesn't show a package for "jdk" or "java"
[10:22] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, explain what dump and pass are
[10:22] <ex-parrot> dump is used by the dump command, if you don't use it, leave it set at 0
[10:22] <mikeymike-linux> what is that?
[10:22] <ex-parrot> and pass is for fsck which is not important with ntfas
[10:22] <ex-parrot> ntfs
[10:22] <enuonge> i am on a live cd but cannot access my hdd
[10:22] <ex-parrot> uhm dunon, nbever used it :P
[10:22] <mikeymike-linux> oh ok
[10:22] <ex-parrot> blargh excuse typing
[10:23] <mikeymike-linux> but everytthing else would work?
[10:23] <enuonge> im trying to reinstall grub
[10:23] <mikeymike-linux> owner,umase=0222
[10:23] <mikeymike-linux> umask
[10:23] <timbobsteve> enuonge: .... what are u typeing ?
[10:23] <mikeymike-linux> thats okayA?
[10:23] <timbobsteve> typing*
[10:23] <dli> !grub > enuonge
[10:23] <enuonge> !grub
[10:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:23] <mikeymike-linux> im going to reboot and try this
[10:23] <onorin> java, it should have showed
[10:23] <ex-parrot> wait mikeymike-linux, what does the owner option do?
[10:23] <enuonge> dli: i have read documentation
[10:23] <syn-ack> onorin: http://www.oclug.on.ca/archives/oclug/2005-January/043683.html <- read that
[10:23] <Tonren> I wasn't a fan of fluxbox
[10:24] <timbobsteve> enuonge: what are you doing to repair grub ?
[10:24] <enuonge> my ubuntu partition starts in the first block
[10:24] <dli> enuonge, okay, ask your questions now, and be specific
[10:24] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, allow owner to have permission to the drive i guess? basically to allow me to use it in the GNOME GUI
[10:24] <timbobsteve> Tonren: might I ask why?
[10:24] <enuonge> grub-install /dev/hda
[10:24] <enuonge> which is my hardrive
[10:24] <Tonren> timbobsteve: It was just a little too fugly and unintuitive.
[10:24] <ardchoille> !info sun-java5-jdk
[10:24] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[10:24] <enuonge> partition 1 is ubuntus
[10:24] <ardchoille> java: Do you have multiverse enabled?
[10:24] <Tonren> timbobsteve: I'm interested in figuring out KDE, but it might be LESS intuitive in its complexity.
[10:24] <mikeymike-linux> who mounts the stuff in fstab? root?
[10:24] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, owner  Allow  an ordinary (i.e., non-root) user to mount the file system if he is the owner of
[10:24] <mikeymike-linux>                      the device.  This option implies the options nosuid and  nodev  (unless  overridden  by
[10:24] <mikeymike-linux>                      subsequent options, as in the option line owner,dev,suid).
[10:24] <mikeymike-linux> sorry!
[10:24] <enuonge> but it cant access /dev/hda
[10:24] <ex-parrot> ok
[10:25] <ex-parrot> don't reboot
[10:25] <ex-parrot> just do sudo mount -a
[10:25] <ex-parrot> to test fstab
[10:25] <mikeymike-linux> whats -a?
[10:25] <enuonge> i browsed to /dev/ folder in nautilus and theres that red crosss icon
[10:25] <spacey> all
[10:25] <timbobsteve> enuonge: try doing it manually type "sudo grub ENTER root (hd0,1) ENTER boot (hd0) ENTER quit"
[10:25] <enuonge> which i think means inaccessible
[10:25] <ex-parrot> "all" tells it to re-read fstab mikeymike-linux
[10:25] <dli> enuonge, okay, you didn't follow the howto
[10:25] <timbobsteve> enuonge: ENTER = Enter Key :P
[10:25] <mikeymike-linux> VERY GOOD
[10:26] <onorin> syn-ack, and you read this : http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[10:26] <mikeymike-linux> thank you guys :)
[10:26] <mikeymike-linux> haha
[10:26] <ex-parrot> mikeymike-linux: you should never need to reboot linux
[10:26] <timbobsteve> Tonren: I see KDE as too bloated to work well
[10:26] <enuonge>  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[10:26] <ex-parrot> and I just posted to the pastebin a corrected fstab for you :P
[10:26] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, oh i know i just didn't know how to make it do that
[10:26] <skorm> would setting /proc to 550 be bad?
[10:26] <onorin> syn-ack, also this one : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216237&highlight=ntfs
[10:26] <timbobsteve> enuonge: did you run grub with "sudo" ?
[10:26] <mikeymike-linux> i need to reboot into windows now to play a game wiht my friend :)
[10:26] <Tonren> timbobsteve: It seems pretty bloated, but it's been running quite fast
[10:27] <enuonge> yes i did
[10:27] <ex-parrot> enjoy mikeymike-linux
[10:27] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, nice paste
[10:27] <Tonren> timbobsteve: It seems like GNOME doesn't really have a lot of customzation though
[10:27] <timbobsteve> Tonren: I am a minimalist when it comes to X... xfce / flux is the only choice
[10:27] <mattyv> people always talk about X days of uptime, doesn't that mean they are running unpatched if a kernel update comes along?
[10:27] <timbobsteve> enuonge: hmmm.. are you using the LiveCD ?
[10:27] <Tonren> timbobsteve: XFCE is the only one I haven't tried.  Is it a small download?
[10:27] <syn-ack> onorin: You know, bub, I dont really care for the hositiy you have given me tonight. the REASON I had you read that is because I didnt know what the hell it was, so why dont you chill the fsck out before I get nasty.
[10:28] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, i appreciate your time in helping me learn this  lol i should have just read more closely and usd common sense.. but the man fstab is confusing its written for a different distribution apparently because it names the fields differently than what they are labeled in the actual fstab file
[10:28] <timbobsteve> Tonren: Not too big... bout 12Mb from recollection... could be wrong tho... it really is wonderfull
[10:28] <Tonren> timbobsteve: Ubuntu wants 45MB of space.  Economical enough for me
[10:28] <lampshade> ardchoille: sorry, I might have sent that to the wrong person  I'm not sure cause I /cleared...  I think I was going for someone else who didn't seem to know about the repos.  No offense was meant :)
[10:28] <ex-parrot> no problem mikeymike-linux, I had to learn it too and it would have been nicer if someone could have told me what to do
[10:28] <onorin> syn-ack, I am not hostile. I am just a guy with a problem to be solved. No more , no less
[10:28] <mikeymike-linux> ex-parrot, i'd rather learn than just be told what to do though...
[10:28] <mikeymike-linux> so ic an be self sufficient :D
[10:28] <ex-parrot> good plan
[10:28] <timbobsteve> enuonge: I had the same problem... but I was booting using the slackware cd.,,, eventually I needed to reboot using the Installer CD and chroot into the env... then it worked
[10:28] <mikeymike-linux> anyway i am rebooting see u shorty :)
[10:29] <enuonge> i just did root (hd0,0) which is partition 1
[10:29] <ardchoille> lampshade: none taken, it actually helped me learn something, so I do appreciate it.
[10:29] <timbobsteve> Tonren: Yeh it is sleek looking too
[10:29] <enuonge> it detects a ext2fs
[10:29] <enuonge> now typing boot hd0
[10:29] <Tonren> timbobsteve: I"ll try it out in a sec
[10:29] <onorin> one last time, any one tried NTFS-3g here
[10:29] <enuonge> it says kernel must be loaded before booting
[10:29] <timbobsteve> enuonge: make sure it says "boot (hd0)"
[10:30] <ex-parrot> onorin: I sort of did, but I couldn't get FUSE to work at all
[10:30] <ex-parrot> so I didn't get as far as trying NTFS-3g itself
[10:30] <enuonge> timbobsteve: same msg
[10:30] <timbobsteve> Tonren: The only thing wrong with XFCE is that it is missing some of the usefull things that Gnome has... but you really can live well without them
[10:30] <ex-parrot> sorry enuonge, but what are you trying to do?
[10:31] <timbobsteve> enuonge: OK.... lets go back to the start... I will talk you through it
[10:31] <onorin> ex-parrot, my problem is not exactly related with FUSE or ntfs-3g
[10:31] <ex-parrot> oh ok onorin
[10:31] <onorin> ex-parrot, it's more bout linux
[10:31] <ex-parrot> right...
[10:31] <ex-parrot> better in #linux then?
[10:31] <enuonge> ex-parrot: i had only ubuntu on my sys
[10:31] <ex-parrot> yep
[10:31] <enuonge> ex-parrot: so i needed to create a windows partition and installed windows
[10:31] <onorin> ex-parrot, the problem is I installed fuse and , ntfs-3g looks for a file called fuse.h
[10:31] <ex-parrot> oh right I see enuonge, I know what happens
[10:32] <enuonge> ex-parrot: the ubuntu partition starts in the first block
[10:32] <ex-parrot> let timbobsteve walk you through it I would htink
[10:32] <ex-parrot> I'm interested to see how he does it :P
[10:32] <onorin> ex-parrot, fuse.h is in linux headers/include. But somehow ntfs-3g don't know that
[10:32] <ex-parrot> that's a pity onorin
[10:32] <MikeyMike-Window> wow
[10:32] <MikeyMike-Window> this looks horrible in windows
[10:32] <ex-parrot> .h is a source file so isn't normally called at runtime, onorin, other than that I don't know anything about it
[10:33] <ex-parrot> MikeyMike-Window: x-chat?
[10:33] <onorin> ex-parrot, it is called when I "make" ntfs-3g
[10:33] <ex-parrot> ohh right
[10:33] <timbobsteve> enuonge: firstly... if Ubuntu is the first partition... that is bad... Windows will whine and moan constantly... it always wants to be the first partition on the HDD... it really is childish... I think you can do without... but I am not sure... OK. Ready for me to walk you through this?
[10:33] <ex-parrot> I see onorin
[10:33] <onorin> so I can not make it
[10:33] <ex-parrot> timbobsteve: I've never had any problem having windows in hda2
[10:33] <MikeyMike-Window> ex-parrot,  yeah the fonts are really rough.. heh
[10:33] <enuonge> timbobsteve: yep
[10:33] <ex-parrot> I see what you mean now onorin.... there may be an argument you can pass to the configure script to tell it where the headers are?
[10:34] <timbobsteve> enuonge: OK... close everything (except this window of course)... open a terminal. Tell me when you have done that..
[10:34] <onorin> ex-parrot, prolly something like that. But I am helpless at this point
[10:34] <enuonge> timbobsteve: done
[10:34] <ex-parrot> onorin: me too, good luck :P
[10:34] <onorin> hehe
[10:34] <ex-parrot> is ntfs-3g available in the repos as a binary?
[10:35] <timbobsteve> enuonge: ok... now mount your Ubuntu partition...
[10:35] <godtvisken> What can I do if when I use one program with sound and another, one of them doesn't play sound? as in, if i am watching a youtube video then go to play something in bashee, i must close firefox to get banshee to work
[10:35] <dli> onorin, try: sudo apt-get install libfuse-dev
[10:35] <enuonge> timbobsteve: mount in / right
[10:36] <Discipulus> what is /proc/klog for?
[10:36] <timbobsteve> enuonge: definately not!.... mount it in /mnt/hda1 ... or similar... definately not on / :P hehehehehe
[10:36] <Discipulus> er
[10:36] <enuonge> ok
[10:36] <Discipulus> /proc/kmsg
[10:36] <onorin> dli, on my way
[10:36] <Discipulus> what is /proc/kmsg for?
[10:36] <enuonge> timbobsteve: done
[10:37] <timbobsteve> enuonge: where did you mount it? I want to know so I type the right commands for you ;)
[10:37] <onorin> dli, you know whay they say, "worked like a charm" :)
[10:38] <enuonge> timbobsteve: in /mnt/hda1
[10:38] <onorin> ex-parrot, the resolution is to install libfuse-dev as dli told me.
[10:38] <MikeyMike-Window> hahaha not even 3 minutes into windows i have updates and have to REBOOT
[10:38] <MikeyMike-Window> brb once again :D
[10:38] <dli> onorin, no idea, it's still in testing stage, but ntfs3g depends on fuse, so you need fuse-dev packages in order to build it
[10:39] <timbobsteve> enuonge: ok... now type the following commands (ENTER = Enter Key)..... "mount -o bind /dev /mnt/hda1/dev ENTER mount -o bind /proc /mnt/hda1/proc" tell me if there are errors or when you are done...
[10:40] <onorin> dli, thanks anyway
[10:40] <Sactown> Hello everyone. I had to come here through Windows because Ubuntu stopped working.
[10:40] <enuonge> timbobsteve: done
[10:40] <Discipulus> what service opens port 631?
[10:40] <timbobsteve> enuonge: ok.... now type the following EXACTLY..... "sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 /bin/bash ENTER"
[10:40] <skorm> Sactown: whats the problem/error?
[10:41] <Sactown> Blank screen after login.
[10:41] <enuonge> timbobsteve: done
[10:41] <narfmaster> Discipulus, i think that's cups
[10:41] <Sactown> Well, dark orange with mouse + blank
[10:41] <dli> Sactown, known issues
[10:41] <skorm> Sactown: seems like you have a problem with your gnome
[10:41] <dli> Sactown, reboot to linux, work in a console
[10:41] <timbobsteve> enuonge: OK.... now type "grub ENTER root (hd0,0) ENTER boot (hd0) ENTER quit ENTER"..... tell me errors or anything else
[10:41] <furrykef> Hey, is there a way to configure the system so that a PC speaker beep is instead played on the sound card?
[10:42] <Sactown> Yeah. I reset xorg and even tried vesa at diffrent resolutions and colors
[10:42] <dli> Sactown, you can get your gnome up easily
[10:42] <Sactown> How?
[10:42] <dli> Sactown, if you get gdm up, Xorg is running already
[10:42] <enuonge> timbobsteve: on boot (hd0), Error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting
[10:42] <Sactown> Blank screen.
[10:43] <dli> Sactown, is gdm up?
[10:43] <Sactown> There's no GUI
[10:43] <timbobsteve> enuonge: hmmmm that is not kewl... that msg has thrown me.... you are running the dapper liveCD right?
[10:43] <Sactown> Yeah, it starts, I get the logon, but once I log  in. darkness + mouse.
[10:43] <ex-parrot> why not sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda1 /dev/hda
[10:43] <Sactown> I can't even use terminals
[10:43] <enuonge> timbobsteve: exactly
[10:43] <ex-parrot> timbobsteve: that's the command I use
[10:44] <skorm> Sactown: :O
[10:44] <fivre> BRILLIANT babelfish!
[10:44] <timbobsteve> ex-parrot: yeh true... I am just following the steps I took...
[10:44] <fivre> I tell it to translate "five" to russian
[10:44] <fivre> it gives me "5"
[10:44] <fivre> Ah, of course!
[10:44] <timbobsteve> enuonge: try the command that ex-parrot typed "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda1 /dev/hda"
[10:44] <ex-parrot> of course fivre :P
[10:44] <Sactown> Genius!
[10:44] <dli> Sactown, reboot, when gdm is up, Ctl-Alt-F1 to a console, do: " rm -rf ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome* ", to delete all your personal customizations
[10:44] <ex-parrot> oh wait
[10:45] <ex-parrot> timbobsteve: have you got him to chroot already?
[10:45] <ex-parrot> he may need to do exit first
[10:45] <timbobsteve> ex-parrot: yeh.... he is in chroot now
[10:45] <ex-parrot> oh
[10:45] <ex-parrot> exit
[10:45] <ex-parrot> _then_ run my command :P
[10:45] <poje> What went wrong with my xorg here? this is the only _error_ in the log: EE) fglrx(0): Hardware already been locked.
[10:45] <dli> Sactown, you may have to reinstall ubuntu-desktop: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <enuonge> timbobsteve: i get sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[10:45] <aeolus> hi
[10:45] <timbobsteve> enuonge: type exit at the terminal 3 time until the terminal dissapears... then open a new one and then run the command above :P
[10:46] <ex-parrot> yeah enuonge, that's because you're in chroot, exit as timbobsteve said
[10:46] <enuonge> timbobsteve: wait
[10:46] <enuonge> i used sudo
[10:46] <Raskall> agh.. how do I find out which deb package a file is a "member" of?
[10:46] <enuonge> i was in root lol
[10:46] <enuonge> i get mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/hda1/boot': No such file or directory
[10:46] <ex-parrot> close that terminal you're in or it'll just explode
[10:46] <ex-parrot> in a shower of sparks
[10:46] <ex-parrot> yep
[10:46] <ex-parrot> that's what will happen
[10:46] <ex-parrot> open a new terminal and use that
[10:46] <Sactown> hmm, ok. I'll give it a shot. After this I'll just hose the drive if that doesn't work.
[10:46] <timbobsteve> enuonge: do you have a boot parition or is /boot under /dev/hda1 ?
[10:46] <Sactown> Thanks.
[10:47] <timbobsteve> enuonge: close the terminal and start again... we got our wires crossed :P....
[10:47] <ex-parrot> he's probably still in chroot timbobsteve thus /mnt/hda1 doesn't exist
[10:47] <dli> Sactown, as I said, this a known issue with dapper
[10:47] <timbobsteve> ex-parrot: yup... just asked him to fix it
[10:47] <ex-parrot> swell
[10:47] <enuonge> ex-parrot i get /dev/hd: Not found or not a block device.
[10:47] <MikeyMike-Window> ex-parrot,  had to go back into linux to edit my grub menu
[10:48] <timbobsteve> enuonge: did you open a new terminal ?
[10:48] <ex-parrot> you want /dev/hda timbobsteve, enuonge, I may have typoed
[10:48] <ex-parrot> argh
[10:48] <ex-parrot> MikeyMike-Window: hello then
[10:48] <MikeyMike-Window> hi
[10:48] <enuonge> oops typed hd instead of hda
[10:48] <ex-parrot> tada enuonge :P
[10:48] <ex-parrot> just be glad that windows xp doesn't automatically corrupt non-recognisable filesystems like windows 95 did
[10:48] <enuonge> xfs_freeze: specified file ["/mnt/hda1/boot/grub"]  is not on an XFS filesystem
[10:48] <enuonge> Installation finished. No error reported.
[10:49] <ex-parrot> cool
[10:49] <ex-parrot> you're set enuonge
[10:49] <timbobsteve> enuonge: open a new terminal window and type this ("sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda1 /dev/hda")
[10:49] <ex-parrot> no he's good timbobsteve :P
[10:49] <timbobsteve> enuonge: now reboot and see :P
[10:49] <enuonge> ok
[10:49] <enuonge> thanks
[10:49] <Elko_> epiphany doesn't want to load google.com, while ff does.. I did a reinstall of epi*, no go
[10:49] <timbobsteve> ex-parrot: damn dial-up... I don't get the msgs till 20 secs later :P
[10:49] <Elko_> weird
[10:49] <poje> Does anyone recognize this xorg error? (EE) fglrx(0): Hardware already been locked.
[10:50] <timbobsteve> poje: are you already running an X session ?
[10:50] <ardchoille> Elko: Just a guess, but does Epiphany have a way of turning off ipv6>?
[10:50] <poje> timbobsteve: yes
[10:50] <Elko> ardchoille: I wish I knew
[10:50] <timbobsteve> poje: then thats why.... fglrx only lets you run 1 instance of the HW drivers
[10:50] <poje> timbobsteve: well, i startxed, then killed it, then started gdm
[10:50] <poje> timbobsteve: yeah, lemme kill everything and try again
[10:51] <timbobsteve> poje: thats the best bet ;)
[10:51] <MikeyMike-Window> i wish i could read my linux files from windows
[10:51] <MikeyMike-Window> is there a way?
[10:51] <godtvisken> What can I do if when I use one program with sound and another, one of them doesn't play sound? as in, if i am watching a youtube video then go to play something in bashee, i must close firefox to get banshee to work
[10:51] <timbobsteve> MikeyMike-Window: Yes... not sure what the prog is called... but there is a freeware one...
[10:51] <MikeyMike-Window> interesting
[10:52] <Elko> timbobsteve: heh, I would have found the name of that prog in a second.. if only google worked :P
[10:52] <snoops> godtvisken I believe that has to do with your sound card not supporting multiple concurrent audio streams
[10:52] <verix> hey, what command would tell me stuff about the hardware in my computer?
[10:52] <verix> or is there anything like that?
[10:52] <timbobsteve> MikeyMike-Window: it works well... read-only of course... it opens the partition like a zip file and you have to extract files from it :P
[10:52] <Boglizk> explore2fs
[10:52] <MikeyMike-Window> timbobsteve,  ah yes just like partition magic did
[10:52] <MikeyMike-Window> explore2fs eh?
[10:52] <timbobsteve> verix: "lspci" will tell you
[10:52] <Elko> verix: lspci, /proc files and dmesg
[10:52] <aeolus> Boglizk: yep, explore2fs :)
[10:52] <Boglizk> Yes
[10:53] <Elko> my google!!
[10:53] <verix> Elko: thanky!
[10:53] <Elko> :(
[10:53] <Elko> can any1 confirm?
[10:53] <Elko> need to know if it's local
[10:54] <timbobsteve> Elko: Firefox + google = OK for me
[10:54] <Elko> timbobsteve: yeah, here, too, but I like epi* more
[10:54] <Boglizk> Firefox + CTRL-K
[10:54] <aeolus> Can Breezy be upgraded to Dapper?
[10:54] <Boglizk> :] 
[10:54] <Boglizk> aeolus: of course
[10:54] <Boglizk> Update Manager
[10:54] <timbobsteve> Elko: hmmm... cant see why it would make a difference what browser u use...
[10:54] <aeolus> How do I do that?
[10:54] <Elko> can some1 do a sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser and connect to google?
[10:55] <Boglizk> Dont loose your sight
[10:55] <snoops> Elko I've got epiphany already installed..
[10:55] <timbobsteve> gonna go make dinner for the kids... see everyone later
[10:55] <Elko> snoops: and google pops up?
[10:56] <snoops> when I go to google, yes
[10:56] <Elko> hmm, ok, I know where to dig then
[10:56] <phunkalicious> where can i get this Listen music player?
[10:58] <Elko> snoops: heh, thanks, there must be s/t wrong with my .gnome2/epiphany, coz after moving that away and starting with a fresh epiphany, google comes up again
[10:59] <sedat> is there anybody managed to run broadcom wireless on an AMD64 chipset
[11:04] <dsas> could someone remind me how to find out which package a particular file belongs to?
[11:05] <ardinary> <3
[11:06] <skavenge> is there anyway to intergrate movies in webages (ala gstreamer/xine plugin firefox) with konqueror?
[11:07] <tony_> anyone here using kdevelop - need help w simple question - how do i get the autocompletion to work? - does it autocomplete variable names and stdio functions?
[11:07] <xarq> which file does ubuntu use to set the keymap on boot?
[11:08] <PaoloC> is there anybody that can help me with my usb stick and HAL ?
[11:08] <verix> can anyone help me with a monitor-detection problem?
[11:09] <Sactown> I'm back. Still no GUI
[11:10] <dli> !anyone
[11:10] <skavenge> woo!
[11:10] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:10] <skavenge> !ping
[11:10] <ubotu> pong
[11:10] <Sactown> And now I gave double entries for my linux options in grub.
[11:10] <skavenge> just checking
[11:10] <kbrosnan> skavenge, I am not a konk expert but I think they use the same plugin api, so any firefox plugin (not extensions) shouldd work
[11:11] <skavenge> kbrosnan: no dice, all videos wanna play through kaffiene? (new to kde)
[11:11] <uniq> xarq: what keymap? graphical or console?
[11:11] <Sactown> I'm about to ininstall ubuntu. I've been trying to get this thing working right for months.
[11:12] <xarq> uniq: they should be the same file, right?
[11:12] <Sactown> uninstall
[11:12] <uniq> xarq: no. different.
[11:12] <xarq> uniq: console then
[11:12] <kbrosnan> you likely need to find out where the plugins directory is and symlink the plugins to that plugins directory
[11:12] <uniq> xarq: you can configure the console keymap with this command: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data'
[11:13] <Sactown> dli, you still here?
[11:13] <tga> hey, any music library better than rhythmbox?
[11:13] <verix> lol
[11:13] <xarq> uniq: but I want to use the keymap I modified from dumpkey output
[11:13] <verix> well about the !anyone thing
[11:13] <verix> I pretty much asked it ;) I'm having problems with monitor detection
[11:14] <DigitDuke> Hiya.
[11:14] <DigitDuke> So...
[11:14] <uniq> xarq: is that a xmodmap file?
[11:14] <DigitDuke> I have a networking problem.
[11:14] <DigitDuke> And I've looked everyone.
[11:14] <PaoloC> lshal doesn't report my usb stick even if udev creates the device.
[11:14] <DigitDuke> I just want to connect to my Netopia Cayman router via Ethernet.
[11:14] <xarq> uniq: it's more of a dumpkeys/loadkeys file (.map)
[11:14] <DigitDuke> I've checked the cables, I've modified settings.. nothing work.
[11:14] <phunkalicious> i use this tga: http://listengnome.free.fr/
[11:15] <DigitDuke> s/work/works/
[11:15] <DigitDuke> Will someone be kind enough to help me resolve this?
[11:15] <Sactown> DigitDuke: Reset it? Does it work with other OSes?
[11:15] <PaoloC> lshal doesn't report my usb stick even if udev creates the device. any suggestion?
[11:16] <DigitDuke> Yes, it works with Windows Sactown
[11:16] <godtvisken> snoops: yeah, but it works fine in windows
[11:16] <Sactown> Are you connected to it now?
[11:16] <DigitDuke> Sactown: The only thing I can think of at this point is network card incompatibility
[11:16] <uniq> xarq: the easiest way is probably to run 'loadkeys yourfile' from /etc/rc.local or something like that.. i would think.
[11:16] <DigitDuke> I'm connected to it yes..
[11:16] <DigitDuke> I'm getting a hostname, no.
[11:16] <sam_> I dual boot xp/ubuntu is there any way to access windows files under ubuntu i see the hard drive icon but it wont mount
[11:17] <DigitDuke> Hmm... hostname is probably not the right word.
[11:17] <xarq> uniq: ok, I will try that.. thanks
[11:17] <DigitDuke> I'
[11:17] <DigitDuke> DHCP won't even let me in.
[11:17] <DigitDuke> One second, I'll show you the details.
[11:17] <Sactown> Shouldn't be a compatibility issue if you're bypassing the router at the moment. Using the same card?
[11:18] <DigitDuke> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215265 - this is my configuration.  Now, I am new so I might have misconfigured something but DHCP did not work before I even started configuring, and the other computers on the network are working with zero configuration.
[11:18] <DigitDuke> Well, I'm not chatting through it if that's what you're asking Sactown
[11:19] <sam_> I dual boot xp/ubuntu is there any way to access windows files under ubuntu i see the hard drive icon but it wont mount
[11:19] <DigitDuke> I haven't managed to connect through it ever.
[11:19] <Sactown> Yes sam, unless it's encrypted. But writing is another issue.
[11:19] <Sactown> Oh, you mean that card with any other OS?
[11:20] <sedat> sam_ you should read ubuntu guide
[11:20] <DigitDuke> No, I could use the card before I formatted.
[11:20] <DigitDuke> I removed Windows completely.
[11:21] <godtvisken> What can I do if when I use one program with sound and another, one of them doesn't play sound? as in, if i am watching a youtube video then go to play something in bashee, i must close firefox to get banshee to work
[11:21] <phunkalicious> what card is it
[11:21] <Sactown> I'd test the issue using the Live CD and testing each machine.
[11:22] <godtvisken> phunkalicious: ALi M5455
[11:22] <DigitDuke> To see if it's an issue with the router?
[11:22] <Sactown> If only that one has the issue then it's probably got some funcky driver.
[11:22] <Sactown> No, the card
[11:22] <sam_> ubuntu guide?
[11:22] <Sactown> Router sounds good.
[11:22] <DigitDuke> Oh okay.
[11:23] <DigitDuke> Thanks a lot Sactown!  I'll try that.
[11:23] <Tru7h> Hey, all. =)
[11:23] <Sactown> The router handles traffic, it doesn't care about the OS on the other end
[11:23] <DigitDuke> I see.
[11:24] <Tru7h> I don't know if anybody can help me, but I'm new to Ubuntu and I'm confused as to how I should go about installing a .bin file.
[11:25] <frogzoo> Tru7h: you should read the associated INSTALL or README
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[11:25] <Tru7h> Thanks, both of you.
[11:26] <PaoloC> lshal doesn't report my usb stick even if udev creates the device. any suggestion?
[11:26] <phunkalicious> godtvisken, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=817147#post817147
[11:26] <hyperstream> i have a Microsoft Ergonomic keyboard and it seems that the F1 etc keys do not function any ideas on this ?
[11:26] <Tru7h> Ugh, M$ hardware...
[11:27] <ardchoille> lol
[11:27] <ex-parrot> does it have that cursed function lock thing hyperstream?
[11:27] <bbrazil> Tru7h: MS hardware tends to be good
[11:27] <snoops> hyperstream
[11:27] <Tru7h> I tried their keyboards and mice, and was very displeased.
[11:27] <Tru7h> I stick to Logitech now.
[11:27] <phunkalicious> yeah, there are a ton of entries for it in the keyboard layous
[11:27] <hyperstream> what is that exactly?
[11:27] <snoops> does that ergo have an F lock?
[11:27] <hyperstream> snoops,  yes?
[11:27] <ex-parrot> I've seen some of the new MS keyboards have shortcut keys as defaults where the function keys are meant to go
[11:27] <snoops> because I bet that's the issue
[11:27] <bbrazil> Tru7h: I rather like their mice
[11:27] <hyperstream> im not sure
[11:28] <hyperstream> i cant see a flock
[11:28] <hyperstream> yes it does
[11:28] <ex-parrot> press that
[11:28] <ex-parrot> and try again :P
[11:28] <hyperstream> thanks
[11:28] <hyperstream> :P
[11:28] <hyperstream> YOU GUYS ARE GAWDS
[11:28] <ex-parrot> the only problem with those cursed keyboards
[11:28] <ex-parrot> is I think you have to press that damn key on every boot
[11:28] <Tru7h> bbrazil: I found that they malfunction easily, and if you purchase a wireless mouse which requires driver installation it seems to have a lot of bugs. Could just be my computer, of course.
[11:28] <snoops> not on the new ergo ex-parrot :)
[11:28] <ex-parrot> oh thank goodness for that snoops
[11:28] <narfmaster> ex-parrot, my F-lock comes up by default on my boot
[11:29] <anosa> i try to reinstall grub on /dev/hda but i get an error message on red backround : 'reinstall-grub failed', why??
[11:29] <ex-parrot> that's good to know
[11:29] <snoops> their new ergo 4000 fixed the stupid flock issue.. I like that keyboard so much I bought 3
[11:29] <ex-parrot> I use a late 80s keyswitch keyboard that someone threw out
[11:29] <godtvisken> phunkalicious: cool, thanks. where is the modules config file?
[11:29] <godtvisken> ah damn
[11:29] <godtvisken> er, sorry for language
[11:30] <godtvisken> Where is the modules config file?
[11:30] <bbrazil> Tru7h: hmm, I haven't had any problems - but I don't use wireless
[11:30] <ex-parrot> I like microsoft mice myself
[11:30] <RyanAmos> Is there any reason why when following this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ffmpeg I can't get it to find the app?
[11:30] <frogzoo> godtvisken: /etc/modules & the dir /etc/modprobe.d/*
[11:30] <Tru7h> All regular USB and serial mice are pretty similar, regardless of their make.
[11:31] <Tru7h> When you get into the fancier (and more expensive) ones, you can really start to see differences between brands.
[11:31] <anosa> !grub
[11:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:31] <snoops> I'm a logitech mouse person - and I wish there was a better range of ergonomic keyboards.. but there isn't.. ms absolutely rule that market
[11:31] <Tru7h> Personally, I use Bluetooth Logitech mice and keyboards.
[11:31] <Wodger> yup
[11:32] <ex-parrot> ever used one of those sideways mice?
[11:32] <Wodger> though i perfure mice that are neither left or right right handed as i use ether
[11:32] <ex-parrot> they're so comfortable to use, but you loose some of the positioning accuracy provided by the fingertips
[11:32] <ex-parrot> er lose
[11:32] <snoops> haven't tried a sideways one.. I do use a trackball quite a bit of the time though
[11:33] <ex-parrot> I vehemently hate touchpads
[11:33] <ex-parrot> give me a trackball any day
[11:33] <Tru7h> I like mice with extra buttons. The one I'm using right now has buttons for advanced scrolling, web browsing, and application swtiching.
[11:33] <nathanj> i have a low spec machine i have installed server ed of ubuntu and now i juist want to install fluxbox as wm and x ? what do i do to install x
[11:33] <ex-parrot> and a trackball with a bit of weight, so you can give it a whack with your thumb and let the cursor move itself for a while :P
[11:33] <compengi> i have st-lab usb2.0 tv box how can i make it work on linux?
[11:33] <snoops> I'm looking for a really nice new laser trackball if you know of one ex-parrot?
[11:33] <ex-parrot> nathanj, there's a great tutorial online...
[11:33] <ex-parrot> I'll see if I can find it for you
[11:33] <ex-parrot> snoops: can't say I do, sorry
[11:34] <nathanj> ex-parrot: i have been looking but cant find it
[11:34] <ex-parrot> http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html is a good starting point nathanj, but on dapper and breezy use xserver-xorg not xserver-xfree86
[11:35] <Daemon> a question for those who have tinkered lots with Ubuntu, is there an easy way to remove the "Places" menu?
[11:35] <narfmaster> Daemon, right click on it and select "Remove from Panel"
[11:35] <ex-parrot> narfmaster: that removes all three menus
[11:36] <tga> :)
[11:36] <narfmaster> that's what i do
[11:36] <spacey> you can't just remove half of it
[11:36] <Daemon> narfmaster: no, that removes the menu not places
[11:36] <frogzoo> ex-parrot: tried ala carte ?
[11:36] <ex-parrot> well, being that this is open source, I'm sure you can, but there may not be a straightforward way to do it
[11:36] <ardchoille> Daemon: You can right-click on your panel, and add the Main Menu to the panel, then if you like it you can remove the Menu Bar from the panel.
[11:37] <frogzoo> !fluxbox
[11:37] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[11:37] <frogzoo> nathanj: ^^^ ubotu
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[12:54] (Ramunas/#ubuntu) bigfoot1: sudo chmod rights Folder -R
[12:54] (bigfoot1/#ubuntu) Ramunas: "rights"?
[12:54] (bigfoot1/#ubuntu) ah?
[12:54] (bigfoot1/#ubuntu) ah!
[12:54] (enyc/#ubuntu) Enverex: not that ive noticed really... though it could happen for licensing reasons (this happened in debian with cdrdao iirc)
[12:54] (Daemon/#ubuntu) well you need to understand what you want to change the rights to, and how to apply it.  I'm sure 5 minutes of reading won't kill you
[12:54] (Ramunas/#ubuntu) bigfoot1: 777, or something
[12:54] (enyc/#ubuntu) Enverex: Ive seen packges which havve changed-name so you may not find them in a newer distro version
[12:55] (Enverex/#ubuntu) enyc, : makes sense
[12:55] <Sakireth> how to get my ATI Radeon 9600 XT to work?
[12:55] (enyc/#ubuntu) Enverex: could also happen with something that just wont build anymore and nobody wants to fix etc.
[12:55] (bigfoot1/#ubuntu) where is trash folder
[12:55] (bigfoot1/#ubuntu) ?
[12:55] (bigfoot1/#ubuntu) 777, or something?
[12:55] (enyc/#ubuntu) bigfoot1: erm... its called wastebasket....
[12:55] (Daemon/#ubuntu) Sakireth: what problems are you having?
[12:55] (enyc/#ubuntu) bigfoot1: icon in bottom-right usually
[12:55] (bigfoot1/#ubuntu) i mean in terminal
[12:55] <Sakireth> Daemon: I tried the howto. i still got SGI as line
[12:55] (frogzoo/#ubuntu) Sakireth: either use the _supported_ ati driver, or the unsupported fglrx
[12:55] (Ramunas/#ubuntu) bigfoot1: you better read the man page first
[12:55] (frogzoo/#ubuntu) !fglrx > Sakireth
[12:55] (enyc/#ubuntu) bigfoot1: I thing you get .Trash-{username}  dirs in places for the files
[12:56] <Daemon> bigfoot1: it's hidden, .Trash in the home folder
[12:56] <Sakireth> frogzoo: the supported driver is slower, right?
[12:56] <enyc> bigfoot1: e.g. /home/enyc/.Trash-enyc
[12:56] <frogzoo> Sakireth: really depends what you're doing - fglrx however works for suspend (for me)
[12:56] <bigfoot1> thansk
[12:56] <bigfoot1> all of you
[12:57] <Sakireth> frogzoo: well, when i install fglrx, everything will be faster, i know that out of experience
[12:57] <frogzoo> Sakireth: everything but the rss-glx screensavers, which isn't a big deal
[12:58] <Sakireth> lemme try it once again, then..
[12:59] <Boglizk> Which dir is the font directory?
[12:59] <Daemon> Boglizk: try in /usr/share/fonts
[12:59] <Boglizk> Thanks
[12:59] <marc__> Boglizk, ~/.fonts/ is the user font dir
[01:00] <metusine> any one know how I can list all the currently installed packages?
[01:00] <Boglizk> marc__: no such directory (.fonts)
[01:00] <Sakireth> reboot
[01:00] <frogzoo> metusine: dpkg -l
[01:00] <enyc> metusine: "dpkg -l"
[01:00] <marc__> Boglizk, just create it
[01:00] <metusine> argh. was hunting round under man apt-get
[01:01] <metusine> is apt like a front end into dpkg?
[01:01] <Rambo3> not realy
[01:02] <metusine> oh well
[01:02] <DigitDuke> Ah.. heeeeeeyyaaa heeyyya... as sung by Outkast.
[01:02] <metusine> had what i needed =)
[01:02] <metusine> thanks all =)
[01:02] <DigitDuke> So.. yes.. hostname.
[01:02] <DigitDuke> What hostname do I select?
[01:02] <DigitDuke> I have no idea how to select a hostname.
[01:02] <cwillu> I need to find some way to allow multiple users to run admin programs on a single session, with out sharing a password;  any help?  any pam modules that do this out of the box?
[01:03] <DigitDuke> Hmm
[01:03] <frogzoo> cwillu: create users, all with uid = 0
[01:03] <Sakireth> direct rendering: Yes
[01:03] <Sakireth> server glx vendor string: SGI
[01:03] <Sakireth> that's what i got.
[01:03] <Sakireth> and everything got slower, too.
[01:03] <DigitDuke> I can only think of screen.
[01:03] <Boglizk> Whats the command to remove a directory and all of its content?
[01:03] <operative> rm -rf
[01:03] <DigitDuke> rmdir -r
[01:03] <DigitDuke> f
[01:03] <DigitDuke> Yeah
[01:04] <DigitDuke> No.
[01:04] <operative> be careful with it though Boglizk
[01:04] <cwillu> frogzoo: how does that help?
[01:04] <Boglizk> No worrys, i know what i'm doing
[01:04] <Enverex> Is anyone here running the 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[01:04] <Sakireth> frogzoo, read. :P
[01:04] <enyc> Enverex: erm I have login to a machine that does
[01:04] <DigitDuke> Yes...
[01:04] <Gassed> Hi
[01:04] <enyc> Enverex: (dapper server 6.06 amd64)
[01:04] <Gassed> Ever since I updated to Ubuntu 6.06 LTS I can't make my TV card work right
[01:05] <DigitDuke> Okay, again, can someone explain for me what a hostname is and how I select a hostname to use with SSH?
[01:05] <Gassed> I get these horrible inteferance lines
[01:05] <Enverex> I'm just worried about how many apps aren't 64bit compatible
[01:05] <Rambo3> Sekireth disabling framebuffer on my ati made it run better
[01:06] <Gassed> !tvcard
[01:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about tvcard - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:06] <filemover> now that i have samba installed how do i browse the files on the other machine
[01:06] <enyc> Gassed: erm
[01:06] <enyc> od
[01:06] <Sakireth> Rambo: framebuffer is disabled
[01:06] <jonass> is there a possibility to get the 4th and 5th mouse button working?
[01:06] <Sakireth> Guys, all games work perfectly, but everything else is slower.
[01:06] <Sakireth> is THAT fglrx?
[01:06] <enyc> jonass: yes... its a case of getting the buttonmapping / mouseprotocol right ;-)
[01:07] <jonass> okay ;)
[01:07] <frogzoo> !mouse > jonass
[01:07] <Sakireth> if so, i'll throw it in the trashcan.
[01:07] <jonass> thank you frogzoo
[01:07] <francesca> Is it possible to install kde with edubuntu and keep the kde apps in kde? Ie not in Gnome?
[01:07] <enyc> ??how do I the the contents of the available !-things e.g. !mouse -- prefereably search/list of them?
[01:08] <enyc> francesca: theres no reason you cant install kde apps etc.
[01:08] <dawe> join #ubuntu-cz
[01:08] <filemover> can anyone tell me how to browse files on my other machine from this one
[01:08] <enyc> francesca: integration between them and gnome may not work well however
[01:08] <frogzoo> filemover: ssh or nfs or samba
[01:08] <munzir> Hi, I want to backup apache2 folder without its subdirectories so I tried sudo rdiff-backup --print-statistics --include /etc/apache2/ --exclude '*' / /backup but this backed up all the folder, what's wrong please?
[01:08] <enyc> francesca: first, does "other machine" have working file service of some form??
[01:09] <filemover> ok but where are the icons that represent the shared files
[01:09] <francesca> enyc: How would I install the kde and get the right files instead of messing everything up like I did before?
[01:09] <seanh> Just upgraded to Dapper, using Totem-xine to playDVDs, and the colour is all washed out, we need to adjust the brightness and contrast differently for each movie, and can never get it quite right. It's never done this before. Anyone know how to fix it?
[01:09] <francesca> enyc: I don't understand "other machine?"
[01:09] <enyc> francesca: well you can install 'kubuntu-desktop' package ??
[01:09] <enyc> francesca: worng person sorry
[01:09] <enyc> filemover: first, does "other machine" have working file service of some form??
[01:10] <filemover> yes
[01:10] <enyc> ?how do I the the contents of the available !-things e.g. !mouse -- prefereably search/list of them?
[01:10] <francesca> enyc: Kubuntu desktop pakage won't overwrite edubuntu?
[01:10] <filemover> ntfs
[01:10] <phire> I've got more than one computer with ubuntu, how do I advoid download updates on all of them, can I set up a package server or something?
[01:10] <papo> hm
[01:10] <enyc> filemover: everything needed to view smb shares is in ubuntu 6.06 desktop out-fo-the-box
[01:10] <enyc> filemover: you just Places > network servers.....
[01:10] <filemover> ok
[01:10] <papo> I installed dapper on a notebook with an intel i915GM. Direct rendering is enabled, but *extremely* slow... anything I can do about it?
[01:11] <filemover> ok
[01:11] <filemover> thnx
[01:11] <enyc> papo: II saw a dapper-update about that iirc
[01:11] <frogzoo> phire: debmirror/debpartial - or wget
[01:11] <enyc> papo: you may want to look for a bugreport  and-or  enable 'dapper-updates' ropositories and  upgrade
[01:11] <papo> enyc: Hm, I already did a dist-upgrade with dapper-updates enabled
[01:11] <phire> thanks frogzoo
[01:12] <enyc> papo: hrrm... not sure ;-) look for bugreports/info ;-)
[01:12] <papo> ok, will do
[01:13] <francesca> enyc: What is the command to install kubuntu desktop please?
[01:13] <papo> enyc: does the glxgears in ubuntu not output any fps info? This is my first install on a 3d enabled box, glxgears of debian does output fps data all 5 seconds
[01:13] <seanh> francesca - sudo apt-get insall kubuntu-desktop
[01:13] <phire> papo, glxgears -printfps
[01:13] <papo> philc: thanks!
[01:13] <enyc> papo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191401
[01:13] <enyc> papo: not sure.... ive not seen it do
[01:13] <francesca> seanh: Thank you and Thank you to enyc too.
[01:14] <enyc> francesca: erm 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' I think
[01:14] <filemover> thnx enyc that worked a treat it came straight up
[01:14] <filemover> ive got full access
[01:14] <filemover> great stuff
[01:14] <enyc> frogzoo: however _if_ this removes some edubuntu packages then you can always 'sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop' again or whatever it is
[01:14] <filemover> thnx
[01:14] <enyc> frogzoo: aaarcgh wrong person
[01:15] <enyc> francesca gone!
[01:15] <Enverex> Is anyone here running 64bit Ubuntu right now?
[01:15] <enyc> papo: do let me know if you can get glxgearys fps however ;-)
[01:16] <enyc> Enverex: I have a login on 6.06-dapper AMD64 machine
[01:16] <filemover> i did the kubunto install thisafternoon on ubuntu using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and all went well but some of th programs like azureus have had a few proglems integrating with kde if it is any help
[01:16] <enyc> filemover: francesca left!
[01:16] <Enverex> enyc, : Can you check to see if pearpc and zsnes are available in the repository?
[01:16] <filemover> k
[01:16] <filemover> no worries
[01:16] <papo> enyc: Hm yep, that's the problem I have. But unfortunately, there is no solution in the thread. I have 808 fps
[01:16] <enyc> Enverex: I can, but you can check yourself with http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:17] <lewbing> HIeveryone,please tell me how install anjuta2.02?Thanks.
[01:17] <filemover> sudo apt-get install anjunta
[01:17] <josh__> hows it going everyone. quick question... how do i make my computer connect to anything?
[01:17] <Enverex> "0.4.0-1: i386" Does that mean it wont work on Ubuntu 64?
[01:17] <krism> i'm so tempted to say "sudo apt-get install emacs21" ;)
[01:17] <josh__> like xchat wont connect to here...
[01:17] <enyc> Enverex: 1.420-0.1ubuntu2: i386 ....
[01:17] <enyc> Enverex: yes... i386 only
[01:17] <filemover> first hit it with a hammer
[01:17] <josh__> i have to use ssh
[01:18] <lewbing> apt-get install anjunta,not install anjuta 2.02
[01:18] <enyc> Enverex: I suspect  zsnes is non-free software
[01:18] <filemover> just do it
[01:18] <Foobal> it's free alright
[01:18] <papo> enyc: Hm I did a dist-upgrade with dapper-updates enabled
[01:18] <Enverex> Damn :(
[01:18] <Foobal> the roms for playing just aren't free
[01:18] <Enverex> enyc, erm, zsnes is free
[01:19] <enyc> Enverex: erm looks like FreeWare... and NOT Free-Software
[01:19] <Enverex> Grrr, I wonder how much performance I'd lose if I used the normal version of Ubuntu rather than amd64
[01:19] <enyc> papo: yes you said that ;-)
[01:19] <lewbing> Please tell me how to build anjuta 2.02,Thanks...
[01:19] <enyc> Enverex: not a lot
[01:19] <papo> enyc: ah sorry
[01:19] <gregg__> enyc: why?
[01:19] <enyc> gregg__: ??
[01:20] <gregg__> enyc: what makes zsnes non-free sofwtare?
[01:20] <Foobal> it doesn't have the fundamentalistic gpl license?
[01:21] <Zaph> how do I install Quake onto ubuntu 5.10?
[01:21] <gregg__> Foobal: hehehe
[01:21] <gregg__> well, it does
[01:21] <enyc> gregg__: im ooking for the license text now ;-)
[01:21] <Benjamin_L> does anyone use edgy and an audigy2?
[01:22] <dsas> zsnes is GPL
[01:22] <enyc> dsas: aah ok
[01:22] <dsas> enyc: It's just that it may be patent encumbered I think.
[01:22] <Foobal> okay then. :)
[01:22] <enyc> the fact it is only in i386 is suspicious... hence why I said I suspected....
[01:22] <Zaph> how do I install Quake onto ubuntu 5.10????
[01:22] <gregg__> enyc: it uses x86 assembly heavily (was needed to achieve realtime performance years ago)
[01:22] <Foobal> enyc: it's because it uses the assembly
[01:23] <Zoolie> hi,iam back
[01:23] <Zoolie> i didnt find option for evolution to get it to system tray...
[01:23] <enyc> gregg__: I see I see.... I was wondering that
[01:23] <gregg__> snes9x, a "cleaner" c-only emulator is much slower
[01:23] <enyc> Foobal I see I see
[01:24] <enyc> note that  i386 binaries CAN and DO work on amd64 ubuntu but depends on library versions and soforth available in i386
[01:24] <gregg__> zsnes additionally has teh funky gui :)
[01:24] <enyc> Enverex: you get above?
[01:25] <SonicChao> My current screensaver, the 'Flock' screensaver, makes my computers fans run wild, does anyone know of a lightweight screensaver I can use in Ubuntu?
[01:25] <Enverex> Yeah, but I don't want to go installing 64 Ubuntu to find out this stuff wont work
[01:25] <gregg__> and by the way, GPL sucks
[01:25] <enyc> Enverex: turns out znses is entirely free software but it uses i386 ASM code.... it mill be able to run in amd64 but it may or may-not be a fiddle ;-)
[01:25] <Foobal> gregg__: yeah, majorly :/
[01:25] <SonicChao> gregg__: How, can you say that?
[01:25] <Enverex> ZSnes works on Gentoo 64bit
[01:25] <Enverex> (but glibc 2.4 breaks it)
[01:25] <enyc> Enverex: its probably best to just run i386 (which works fine on amd64)  until true mixed-i386-amd64 comes out ;-) (maybe in edgy)
[01:26] <papo> enyc: Hm I went through the bugs, the problem is not reported :(
[01:26] <gregg__> SonicChao: let's join #ubuntu-flamewars to discuss that ;p
[01:26] <Enverex> But it's other things like PearPC and other general emulators that normally don't seem to be 64bit compatible
[01:26] <enyc> papo: report it then ;-)
[01:26] <papo> enyc: 808fps isn't that much, or is it?
[01:26] <Enverex> enyc, : Is that going to be possible? I wasn't aware of that
[01:26] <enyc> papo: I have no idea
[01:26] <papo> hm ok
[01:26] <enyc> Enverex: well its in one of the edgy spec things
[01:27] <Enverex> enyc, : Would it be possible to upgrade from 32bit Dapper to 64bit Edgy though?
[01:27] <SonicChao> My current screensaver, the 'Flock' screensaver, makes my computers fans run wild, does anyone know of a lightweight screensaver I can use in Ubuntu?
[01:27] <Ash-Fox> I use 'blank'.
[01:27] <enyc> Enverex: not sure... probablfy need the system/side reinstalling but be able to keep your homedir/settings most-likely
[01:28] <papo> enyc: Hm. I should know whether this really is a bug before I report it... I'll google for glxgear output with this card...
[01:28] <SonicChao> Ash-Fox: But certainly you must like eye-candy? :P
[01:28] <suston3d> Hi all! I have a little problem with the ubuntu 6.06 installation .. first i installed the CD version with no GUI, now im trying to boot from DVD but it always goes to the grub bootloader!... is the dvd not bootable or is it grub 1.5 ? ...and is it possible to start the dvd in ubuntu terminal ?
[01:28] <Ash-Fox> SonicChao, no, it slows down my computer.
[01:28] <frogzoo> SonicChao: you can 'nice' your ss -> .xscreensaver
[01:28] <enyc> suston3d: CD ubuntu can install gui
[01:29] <enyc> suston3d: there is no need to use DVD really
[01:29] <suston3d> it didnt ask :(
[01:29] <enyc> suston3d: it depends whhat install cd you have of course ;-)
[01:29] <SonicChao> frogzoo: Nice? and where do i type .xscreensaver ?
[01:29] <enyc> suston3d: ask what??
[01:29] <frogzoo> SonicChao: you edit the file
[01:29] <SonicChao> frogzoo: >.>; I think I'm better of with Ash-Fox's idea...
[01:30] <IseeIsee> the Ubuntu being offered at the Desktop Download is it 6.06 ?
[01:30] <suston3d> enyc : it didnt ask me for a gui (gnome or kde) ... i have the LTS version (~450MB)
[01:30] <enyc> suston3d: yes..... there are 2 different cds
[01:30] <enyc> suston3d: there is ubuntu and kubuntu (and others actually)
[01:30] <IseeIsee> whats the diff between ubuntu & kubuntu ?
[01:31] <Ash-Fox> kubuntu has kde by default.
[01:31] <lassegs> gnome and kde
[01:31] <Chousuke> ubuntu uses Gnome, and kubuntu uses KDE
[01:31] <Ash-Fox> ubuntu has gnome by default.
[01:31] <Ash-Fox> However you can run both kde and gnome on either distrobution if you so wish it.
[01:31] <suston3d> enyc .-.. i checkt .. i downloaded the server install
[01:31] <IseeIsee> can I get a screenshot of what is KDE like & what is Gnome like ?
[01:31] <suston3d> Server install CD
[01:31] <enyc> suston3d: in each case there is a 'desktop' (live cd with sometimes-problematic installer),  an 'alternate' text-based installer/upgrader...
[01:31] <Ash-Fox> they're pretty much the same distrobution.
[01:31] <enyc> suston3d: thats why theres no gui then ;-)
[01:31] <enyc> suston3d: you can install 'ubuntu-desktop' or 'kubuntu-desktop' iirc
[01:32] <Enverex> Well, I already have a 32bit Ubuntu CD here so I can just use this
[01:32] <enyc> Enverex: that will work ;-)
[01:32] <suston3d> my problem is i cant handle the terminal alone :) .. i dont know how i can install gnome afterwards
[01:32] <enyc> Enverex: which CD ver etc. ?
[01:32] <Enverex> 6.06
[01:32] <Enverex> Latest
[01:32] <enyc> suston3d: login first...
[01:32] <dsas> suston3d: install ubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <IseeIsee> so for that I'll have to first do a server install ? and then ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[01:32] <enyc> Enverex: desktop-live or  desktop-alternate ?
[01:32] <skorm> sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <skorm> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <SonicChao> suston3d: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for Gnome.
[01:32] <Enverex> enyc, erm, normal. I didn't know what the alternate one was
[01:32] <skorm> something like that xD
[01:32] <enyc> suston3d: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[01:33] <Enverex> What is different with the alternate one?
[01:33] <enyc> Enverex: that will work... ;-)
[01:33] <suston3d> okay thx @ all :)
[01:33] <SonicChao> suston3d: and "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" for KDE
[01:33] <damned> hi all
[01:33] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: you don't have to do a server install.
[01:33] <Enverex> Ok, erm, possible problem though
[01:33] <damned> anybody got working AverTV PVR 150 in dapper?
[01:33] <enyc> Enverex: the 'desktop' is a LIVE cd.... like KNOPPIX... and has an installer  that is (sometimes) problematic at present  but usually fine... not suitable for upgrading an existing install
[01:33] <SonicChao> !anyone
[01:33] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:33] <IseeIsee> I think Ubuntu has really really improved installation procedure and made them user friendly, cheers for Ubuntu
[01:33] <Enverex> This machine is an SATA RAID0, am I going to have problems with Ubuntu?
[01:33] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: only if you want to install Kubuntu using an Ubuntu CD
[01:33] <enyc> Enverex: the alternate cd is text-based installer/upgrader  like  previous ubuntu cds
[01:34] <amortvigil> hey my gflrx fails does anybody know whats wrong here is information: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18143
[01:34] <enyc> Enverex: maybe... if its not a supported raid then that wont work ;-) -- it might be a sis 'fakeraid'
[01:34] <IseeIsee> Chousuke I guess I'll have to do server install initially and then kubuntu-desktop in the first login ?
[01:34] <enyc> Enverex: if its one of those fakeraid things then you can just use linux raid instead
[01:34] <Enverex> It's the build in onboard nForce4 software RAID
[01:34] <enyc> Enverex: also the 'alternate' cd  is necessary to do LVM/RAID installs
[01:35] <IseeIsee> by the way after doing a server install, do we need a connection with the internet do install kubuntu or xubuntu ?
[01:35] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: if you want to install kubuntu only
[01:35] <Enverex> ugh >.<
[01:35] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: using an ubuntu CD
[01:35] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: but you could download a kubuntu CD too :)
[01:35] <skorm> hehehe, i connected to my site using my phone, and it was to much for the phoen to handle and froze
[01:35] <enyc> Enverex: it may or may-not work... linux may just see the separate drives... but you can wipe them and use linux software raid instead   of that is the case
[01:35] <IseeIsee> Chousuke, yeah thats what I want to do
[01:35] <MenZa> skorm: haha
[01:35] <Enverex> erm, no
[01:35] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: Well, then do the server install.
[01:35] <enyc> Enverex: but you need the 'alternate' cd to do LVM/linux-software-RAID installs at present
[01:35] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: it's rather simple.
[01:35] <Sillychuckie> Can anyone help me setting up wireless (WPA) access on my laptop? I'm not getting anywhere with either the wpasupplicant or network-manager-gnome methods...
[01:35] <Enverex> I have over 100GB of software on them that I need to keep as well as a Windows install
[01:36] <IseeIsee> Chousuke, internet is very low in my country, I've been downloading Ubuntu full CD since 3 days & right now its 76%
[01:36] <Enverex> "wiping them" is not an option
[01:36] <enyc> Enverex: it depends if linux can see the silly-software-raid
[01:36] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. Got a question about the Ubuntu Server edition .. Does it come bare bones, or are there the meat of the packages already with it? Apache, mysql, php, ftp (proftpd) etc? And can it be ran headless pretty simply? (I'm coming from a Gentoo world) ..
[01:36] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: hm
[01:36] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: then I wouldn't recommend installing Kubuntu
[01:36] <enyc> Enverex: if its important stuff it shouldnt be on a RAID0 anyway ;-)
[01:36] <IseeIsee> why ?
[01:36] <Enverex> enyc, : I have no-where else to keep it
[01:36] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: because it will have to download at least 400 MB of packages from the Net.
[01:36] <IseeIsee> oh
[01:36] <Chousuke> the Ubuntu CD contains only Ubuntu
[01:36] <Sillychuckie> NineTeen67, it deff comes with Lamp, and other stuff. see website
[01:37] <SamBozo> yesterday I downloaded from 3 different mirrors..... everytime the check sum failed..... is there any know problems? (using firefox on xp to download ... worked fine for kubuntu and ubuntu downloads .... I ask on xubuntu but got no answer?
[01:37] <enyc> Enverex: Id try booting the LIVE cd....
[01:37] <enyc> Enverex: (desktop)
[01:37] <Chousuke> but all packages are downloadable from the network.
[01:37] <enyc> Enverex: and see what you can see from the 'dmesg'
[01:37] <IseeIsee> what if I wanna install Xubuntu, cause I'm doing one installation on an old machine
[01:37] <NineTeen67Comet> Sillychuckie: N'kay .. I looked around but didn't see the package listing right off . it's downloading, then I'll read up .. thank you ..
[01:37] <enyc> Enverex: and see if you can 'mount' the raid0 partition
[01:37] <bimberi> NineTeen67Comet: it has a 'install a LAMP server' option and is fine to run headless
[01:37] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: That will have to download from the net too.
[01:37] <SamBozo> xubuntu desktop and alternitive  was the failed ones
[01:37] <Gassed> what can I use to write an ISO image in Ubuntu (6.06 LTS)
[01:37] <papo> enyc: Hm, are there any bleeding-edge kernel packages for ubuntu around? Someone reported this was fixed in 2.6.19
[01:37] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: but it's a bit smaller than KDE :)
[01:37] <suston3d> yeah thx again @ SonicChao & enyc ..... only one line ... but impossible for me to find out by my own ^^
[01:38] <enyc> papo: not sure... but it shouldnt be too hard to build your own even if there isnt
[01:38] <SonicChao> suston3d: Ok, no problem. :)
[01:38] <Sillychuckie> is there a guide that actually works out there, with regards to WPA setup? i have tried wpasupplicant & nm-gnome, looking for alternatives (or help with those). ta
[01:38] <NineTeen67Comet> bimberi: n'kay .. I'll peek at it when I boot up the server .. Keeping a monitor, kbd/mouse hooked up is a hassle thanks ..
[01:38] <IseeIsee> even XUbuntu would require a net connection ? but why is'nt it a subset of Ubuntu
[01:38] <skorm> I have my phones ip now xD
[01:38] <papo> enyc: Yeah I know how to do that, I'm just lazy
[01:38] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: no, it's not a subset of Ubuntu
[01:38] <enyc> papo: I didnt know 2.6.19 existed yet ;-)
[01:38] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: It uses the XFCE desktop environment
[01:39] <enyc> papo: also....
[01:39] <papo> enyc: Ehrm yes. wtf?
[01:39] <IseeIsee> so the better option is to download the Xubuntu CD ?
[01:39] <enyc> papo: you wmay be fine using a 2.6.12 package from breezy for the time-being... or it may cause issues
[01:39] <skorm> crap, i have 0.02cents credit
[01:39] <NineTeen67Comet> Second unrelated to server question .. Does xgl run dual monitor with Ubuntu's packages yet? .. It's been kicking my butt with my current distro ..
[01:39] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: well, not necessarily
[01:39] <IseeIsee> chousuke: why ?
[01:39] <SamBozo> IseeIsee: if you can get one that the checksum passes :-(
[01:39] <enyc> NineTeen67Comet: its not clear where xgl is headed... its certaionly not properly 'stable'
[01:39] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: You can install the base system with the ubuntu CD
[01:40] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: and then use apt to download only the packages you need.
[01:40] <SonicChao> NineTeen67Comet: XGL related questions should be asked in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:40] <NineTeen67Comet> enyc: no prob, I don't mind bleeding on my workstation .. lol ..
[01:40] <papo> enyc: Hm now I'm seriously confused: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2229910#post2229910
[01:40] <IseeIsee> well I'm a total new user, I'm not aware of what packages I need
[01:40] <NineTeen67Comet> SonicChao: din' know there was one .. thanks .. I'll check in ..
[01:40] <Chousuke> well, xubuntu-desktop should cover it all
[01:40] <papo> enyc: I guess 2.6.19.6 was meant to be 2.6.16.9
[01:40] <Chousuke> on the older machine.
[01:40] <andi5> papo: www.kernel.org
[01:41] <SonicChao> NineTeen67Comet: Ok. ;)
[01:41] <IseeIsee> Xubuntu I guess is above 600 MB ?
[01:41] <Chousuke> Hmm, I don't know
[01:41] <enyc> papo: Kernel 2.6.16.9 yes
[01:41] <papo> andi5: ?
[01:41] <IseeIsee> btw what are typical hardware specs for Xubuntu ?
[01:41] <enyc> papo: thats what I was going to say ;-)
[01:41] <papo> enyc: Makes much more sense :)
[01:41] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: Using computers nowadays is a PITA without broadband :P
[01:41] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: well, I'd recommend at least 128MB of RAM and ~500 MHz
[01:41] <redblades> Does anyone here use eyeOS?
[01:42] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: but less will work too
[01:42] <gregg__> SonicChao: basically, I dislike how the GPL is used in cases where other licenses are more suitable simply out of "evangelic" reasons or because it is "the standard open source license"
[01:42] <IseeIsee> really ?
[01:42] <skorm> IseeIsee: I had xubuntu running on a 255mhz 64mb ram with out the cpu fan running
[01:42] <skorm> though it was slow
[01:42] <IseeIsee> my specs are p2 233 96mb 10 gb, I'm planning to instal xubuntu on it
[01:43] <SonicChao> gregg__: Well, most other licenses aren't GPL compatible. That is a bad thing
[01:43] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: hmm... That might be a bit too slow :=
[01:43] <IseeIsee> so lets go for DSL :P
[01:43] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: You might want to try fluxbox and manually install the apps you need.
[01:43] <chaizzilla> i could install eyeOS if you're looking for company more than help
[01:43] <finalbeta> How can one update certain programs to newer versions? All user program in the repositories are ancient. Are their repo's that are newer? How to find them?
[01:43] <enyc> papo: you might fine you can use the edgy 2.6.17
[01:43] <gregg__> SonicChao: the other license's fault or gpl's fault?
[01:43] <IseeIsee> fluxbox is part of Ubuntu ?
[01:43] <finalbeta> Just found one for wine, and my programs run way beter
[01:44] <Chousuke> finalbeta: "ancient"?
[01:44] <Dr4g> finalbeta: :D
[01:44] <enyc> papo: however you WILL need to change/fudge the dep on module-init-tools in the .deb (s)
[01:44] <Dr4g> Hey
[01:44] <redblades> chaizzilla, no, I'm looking for help, although maybe if you can try wha I'm doing...
[01:44] <Chousuke> finalbeta: you're supposed to keep using the versions in the repos
[01:44] <enyc> papo: and there might be some big change I dont know about that would break it all
[01:44] <Chousuke> finalbeta: because they're stable :)
[01:44] <papo> enyc: Hm well I'm downloading 2.6.17.6 right now and will use make-kpkg. I just hope they didn't change too much
[01:44] <finalbeta> Chousuke, Lirc is so old, it doesn't even work with dapper, it's over 4 years old!
[01:44] <Chousuke> finalbeta: though for wine I agree getting the newest version is good.
[01:44] <skorm> got my notice IseeIsee ?
[01:44] <piwi> Chousuke: I have the same problem than finalbeta, synaptic says the repos are outdated
[01:44] <spades> IseeIsee there is a nubuntu fork which is mostly security stuff with fluxbox but you would probably want to install the fluxbox package on ubuntu
[01:44] <SonicChao> gregg__: Well, I not a license "expert" I don't write software, I just prefer GFDL and GPL, probably because I already read them so I dont have to read more licenses. XD
[01:45] <Chousuke> piwi: finalbeta: something must be wrong with your sources.list then
[01:45] <Chousuke> And when was the last time you did "aptitude update"? :p
[01:45] <piwi> Chousuke: I used the source-o-matic page actually
[01:45] <andi5> SonicChao: you might read the LGPL too :)
[01:45] <hid3> Hello everyone. My ntpd daemon crashed unexpectedly. However, in netstat -ln | grep 123 I can still see something listening on 123 port. When I try to start the ntpd again, I get errors that the address is already in use.. Any ideas about that?
[01:45] <SamBozo> that makes the 4th time and the 4th server I have downloaded the xubuntu desktop cd and had the freaking md5sum check fail, wtf is the prooblem ... kubuntu and ubuntu cd's were fine
[01:45] <enyc> papo: have phun ;-)
[01:45] <finalbeta> Chousuke, I doubt it, it's a fresh install, and it's been posted as a bug, they confirmed it, they just niglected to fix it. (the Lirc thing)
[01:45] <papo> enyc: thanks
[01:46] <Chousuke> hmm
[01:46] <chaizzilla> ruh roh
[01:46] <enyc> papo: if you are not using the ubuntu kernel-source package... you willlose ubuntu patches e.g. ati/nvidia driver links and some wlan patches
[01:46] <dr_strangelove> how can I add another (self-compiled) window manager to the gdm menu?
[01:46] <enyc> papo: which may or may-not matter ;-)
[01:46] <Daemon> hid3: anything show up when you run "ps" to indicate ntpd is still there?
[01:46] <Chousuke> finalbeta: Well, I guess it can't be helped then.
[01:46] <finalbeta> Everything is just to old, "stable"? I'm taliking things like gaim here, I want one of the newer. Not 1.5 when 2 is out
[01:46] <Gassed> How easy would it be to install Windows 98 alongside Ubuntu?
[01:46] <IseeIsee> so I'll need to do a full ubuntu install & then fluxbox ?
[01:46] <enyc> Gassed: possible but it might more make sense to run inside qemu or vmware
[01:46] <SonicChao> andi5: I've read some of it. :) It's quite close to GPL
[01:47] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: nah
[01:47] <Gassed> VMWare runs in linux?
[01:47] <hid3> Daemon: no, absolutely nothing. This is the problem..
[01:47] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: just do the server install
[01:47] <enyc> Gassed: yes
[01:47] <Gassed> enyc: VMWare isn't free isnt it?
[01:47] <gregg__> SonicChao: i'm not a license expert either... but I often see how all this "incompatibility" stuff hurts source exchange and interoperaibility and - it pretty much just hurts open source
[01:47] <Chousuke> yes it is.
[01:47] <IseeIsee> Chousuke & after that ?
[01:47] <Chousuke> or
[01:47] <enyc> Gassed: nor in windows 98
[01:47] <papo> enyc: thanks, I'll just install it and see if it's better. If not I won't care at all
[01:47] <Chousuke> free, but not Free :P
[01:47] <Gassed> I have an old Win98 cd
[01:47] <skorm> vmware server is Gassed
[01:47] <enyc> Gassed: there is a no-hchanrge vmware player (freeware) but it is not Free Software
[01:47] <Gassed> Hmmm
[01:47] <Chousuke> VMWare server is good
[01:48] <Gassed> Freeware is good for me
[01:48] <Chousuke> it can create VMs too
[01:48] <skorm> <3
[01:48] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: sudo aptitude install fluxbox
[01:48] <enyc> Chousuke: is the VMWare server  freeware now too ??
[01:48] <Chousuke> enyc: yes.
[01:48] <skorm> enyc: ys
[01:48] <Chousuke> enyc: has been for a long time.
[01:48] <enyc> kk
[01:48] <SonicChao> gregg__: All I can say is that there probably should be only one open source license.
[01:48] <enyc> btw....
[01:48] <IseeIsee> Chousuke but won't it require internet connection ?
[01:48] <gregg__> yes, but not the full version
[01:48] <Diiba> Hi.
[01:48] <finalbeta> Gassed, I think that would work just fine, you will have to reinstall grub after installing windows, or you wont be able to boot linux
[01:48] <Gassed> I'll just get VMWare
[01:48] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: yes it will, but fluxbox is small :)
[01:48] <Gassed> It's only for 1 game
[01:48] <andi5> gregg__: out of curiosity: do you think that licensing all gpl stuff bsd compatible would have been better to the os world?
[01:49] <Gassed> that wont run in DOSBox
[01:49] <skorm> !grub
[01:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:49] <gregg__> freeware vmware server has limited snapshot functionality
[01:49] <Chousuke> Gassed: what game?
[01:49] <IseeIsee> Chousuke, will it install all the other necessary packages like browser,multimedia etc ?
[01:49] <chaizzilla> hmm.. fluxbox...
[01:49] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: no it won't
[01:49] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: you can install those yourself too
[01:49] <Gassed> Chousuke: An old DOS one called Fragile Allegiance
[01:49] <Chousuke> Gassed: have you tried running it with DosEMU?
[01:49] <IseeIsee> right
[01:49] <Gassed> DosEMU?
[01:49] <enyc> Dapper has a vmware-player Package .....
[01:49] <Diiba> Could someone tell me how to make programs open in some spesific key combination?
[01:50] <Chousuke> Gassed: another dos emulator
[01:50] <IseeIsee> how easy it is to use Ubuntu from within Windows using vmware ?
[01:50] <Gassed> ill look
[01:50] <gregg__> SonicChao: I think that is neither possible nor would it be a good solution
[01:50] <Chousuke> Gassed: a lot faster than DosBOX
[01:50] <chaizzilla> debian is set up as an access point ob my old tp560, it's nice
[01:50] <redblades> Diiba
[01:50] <enyc> however the vmware-player-kernel-modules dont seem to work on recent kernel etc. ;-(
[01:50] <Diiba> red?
[01:50] <Diiba> redblades?
[01:50] <redblades> Diiba, open a terminal type "gconf-editor"
[01:50] <Diiba> Ty :)
[01:50] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: I don't think you can use an _installed_ Ubuntu with VMWare :|
[01:51] <Gassed> When I run 'DOS Emulator' from the Applications>Other menu, nothing happens
[01:51] <gregg__> andi5: no, probably not. that's not what I'm proposing :)
[01:51] <SonicChao> gregg__: Well...you may be right, I'm just saying 1 license would make things easier, but I see you're point.
[01:51] <finalbeta> Diiba, xbindkeys I think it's called (and a GUI configurator tool for it) allowes you to make keycombinations and execute commands by them.
[01:51] <Diiba> Oh sorry, im using xfce, do they got anything similair?
[01:51] <Chousuke> Gassed: run xdosemu from the command line and see what happens
[01:51] <gregg__> I think LGPL would be the better GPL
[01:51] <Gassed> k
[01:51] <redblades> Eh? Oh, sorry, I have no idea. I'm a gnome loving elf.
[01:51] <Diiba> Ty finalbeta
[01:51] <Gassed> yay
[01:51] <IseeIsee> Chousuke: what can I use with vmware then ?
[01:51] <finalbeta> Dr4g, What wrong with Dhells IRC server?
[01:51] <andi5> gregg__: my opinion: libs -> lgpl, apps -> gpl..... if you can distinguish between them :)
[01:51] <gregg__> but you see, the LGPL was officially disapproved by the GNU a long time ago
[01:52] <Gassed> Sorry, there is no operating system.
[01:52] <Gassed> Please try to install FreeDOS from dosemu-freedos.
[01:52] <Gassed> how do I do that?
[01:52] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: well, vmware virtual machines.
[01:52] <Chousuke> Gassed: aptitude install dosemu-freedos
[01:52] <Gassed> k
[01:52] <IseeIsee> I heard vmware is about using another os withing an os ?
[01:52] <andi5> who cares about what the FSF says ;-)
[01:52] <gregg__> andi5: GNU says: don't use LGPL for libraries!
[01:52] <chaizzilla> can debian be set up to have just the bare minimum to be able to put stuff in a window manager like twm?
[01:52] <Dr4g> finalbeta: DH is no more.
[01:52] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: yeah, but you need to create a virtual machine
[01:52] <IseeIsee> right
[01:52] <Chousuke> IseeIsee: and install an OS within it.
[01:52] <IseeIsee> so everything is created from within the software ?
[01:52] <finalbeta> Dr4g,  :/ I must have missed something.
[01:53] <Gassed> ok, dosemu-freedos is now installed; now what?
[01:53] <Chousuke> Gassed: try again
[01:53] <Chousuke> :)
[01:53] <Gassed> !pastebin > Gassed
[01:53] <gregg__> andi5: check http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html - I think it's ridiculous
[01:54] <andi5> gregg__: like a lot of other stuff rms says sometimes :) *g*
[01:54] <Gassed> Chousuke: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18145
[01:54] <IseeIsee> oh
[01:54] <gregg__> andi5: sure :-)
[01:54] <dirge> Hello everyone.
[01:54] <iriya> hallo
[01:54] <[Grendel] > hallo
[01:55] <IseeIsee> after I have an ISO image, I just write that ISO image to CD ?
[01:55] <Chousuke> Gassed: hmm
[01:55] <Chousuke> Gassed: weird.
[01:55] <Sactown> Finally got the GUI issue fixed with a reinstall
[01:55] <IseeIsee> or first some extraction has to take place from the ISO & then the files written ?
[01:55] <Chousuke> Gassed: perhaps xdosemu is in another package.
[01:55] <ltibor65> sc
[01:55] <[Grendel] > IseeIsee burn
[01:55] <[Grendel] > no extraction
[01:56] <Sactown> Is there a better Linux IRC client than XChat?
[01:56] <[Grendel] > Irssi
[01:56] <gregg__> Sactown: irssi
[01:56] <Gassed> Sactown: NO!
[01:56] <gregg__> YES there is :)
[01:56] <IseeIsee> so after burning, I should be able to see just 1 ISO file on CD ?
[01:56] <Gassed> I love XChat
[01:56] <gregg__> IseeIsee: no!
[01:57] <Sactown> I'm used to mIRC
[01:57] <[Grendel] > IseeIsee, burn it as image
[01:57] <gregg__> IseeIsee: you have to use thev "burn image" function of your burning program
[01:57] <IseeIsee> thats what I asked, someone said above burn it
[01:57] <IseeIsee> I have Nero
[01:57] <chaizzilla> if i had the whole saving what servers & channels yer plugged into thing down with irssi i'd be happier
[01:57] <[Grendel] > in nero the is an option burn image
[01:57] <[Grendel] > there
[01:57] <Sactown> What would be another client?
[01:57] <gregg__> Sactown: in this case x-chat is a godo choice :)
[01:57] <Gassed> Chousuke: It doesn't matter; I'm downloading VMWare
[01:57] <[Grendel] > i think its under recorder
[01:57] <chaizzilla> gaim, jedit's irc plugin..
[01:57] <Chousuke> Gassed: okay.
[01:58] <gregg__> chatzilla *hides*
[01:58] <MenZa> irssi is my client of choice though.
[01:58] <chaizzilla> i forgt about chatzilla, it's arite :)
[01:58] <gregg__> irssi is teh rul0r
[01:58] <Sactown> I have GAIM installed already..
[01:58] <kazukisan> How do i write japanese charcters in linux, like in windows they have that ime thing but how in linux ?
[01:59] <gregg__> irssi has the 0wnge, namely irssi-proxy ;-)
[01:59] <Sactown> I think it was chatzilla I had last time. It's been a while since I've had linux working.
[01:59] <Chousuke> kazukisan: There are IMEs for Linux too, like SCIM and the likes.
[01:59] <kazukisan> thanks
[01:59] <ltibor65> Hi guys! Who can tell me an analog TV watching software for Ubuntu, wich I can record tv-programs with? I tried zapping, it does'n work, then kdetv, it don't have a record option.
[01:59] <[Grendel] > yeah but Irssi needs some time to get used to
[01:59] <Chousuke> kazukisan: I thought they were installed by default in Dapper, but you can search with synaptic
[01:59] <IseeIsee> do I need to create a bootable CD or just burning the image be OK ?
[01:59] <Sactown> Cool, good Q kazukisan
[02:00] <kazukisan> Chousuke, maybe it is i didnt look for it yet lol
[02:00] <[Grendel] > just burn
[02:00] <[Grendel] > its all in the image
[02:00] <IseeIsee> ic
[02:00] <redblades> burn baby burn
[02:00] <redblades> ; )
[02:00] <[Grendel] > :9
[02:01] <filemover> i just found the best irc client for Linux after looking for about two days if anyone is interested its called KVirc and it should be available thorugh add remove programmes
[02:01] <redblades> What face is that>
[02:01] <redblades> ?
[02:01] <chaizzilla> is that kde?
[02:01] <redblades> filemover, KDE?
[02:01] <redblades> hehe
[02:01] <filemover> yep
[02:01] <redblades> I don't use it.
[02:01] <redblades> It's not the best
[02:01] <filemover> i havnt tried it in gnome yet
[02:01] <filemover> but i think it should work
[02:02] <Zoolie> hello
[02:02] <filemover> its a lot like mIRC in windows
[02:02] <[Grendel] > but butt ugly http://www.kvirc.net/img/snapshot11.png
[02:02] <chaizzilla> o hey i just remembered i wanted to switch HDs and try installing ubuntu, that would be why i'm here...
[02:02] <filemover> in that it is easlily configurable and looks great
[02:02] <Zoolie> can i get teamspeak in .deb??? or where can i search for it?
[02:03] <filemover> and it just fitted right in there after i installed kubuntu
[02:03] <kazukisan> filemover, whats wrong with xchat
[02:03] <Sactown> ok, Xchat will be fine for now.. Next is SCIM then Truecrypt... Frsh installs are fun...
[02:04] <filemover> when uve tried KVirc youll see whats wrong with Xchat
[02:04] <filemover> lol
[02:04] <Sactown> How do I block all the quit messages though?
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> how do you get the trash icon on the desktop?
[02:05] <kazukisan> filemover, kvirc is to bulky i like xchat because its simple and fast
[02:05] <Gassed> like the Windows style?
[02:05] <filemover> gi see
[02:05] <filemover> i see
[02:05] <enyc> Zoolie: I get the idea teamspak is non-Free, so therefore .deb unlikely
[02:05] <filemover> well everyone to his own i gues
[02:05] <Zoolie> i found one,on ts forums....
[02:05] <filemover> but kde handles it well because its a little faster
[02:05] <Sactown> Any way to block the join/quit messages?
[02:05] <nanaki_yamabushi> hi I got a question on compiling
[02:06] <filemover> and i have a whole lot of other stuff runing here and my cpu is still very low
[02:06] <filemover> so i dont see that its that much of a resource hog
[02:06] <nanaki_yamabushi> how do I become root. because in the compile instructions it says after make to become rout. how they mean that?
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> Sactown: in irssi, its just /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS
[02:06] <Gassed> Does VMWare server (for Linux) come with a DOS boot floppy image?
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> !sudo > nanaki_yamabushi
[02:07] <kakado> ltibor65, I use mencoder to record tv
[02:07] <kakado> ltibor65, tvtime to watch
[02:07] <chaizzilla> is xchat gooey gui?
[02:07] <ubuntu23413> hey there, who told me to make /boot on an extra partition for raid installation?
[02:08] <filemover> irssi is good if u are using a live cd to install software like they use in linux from scratch because everything is done from the terminal but if your using kde why not have something that looks half decent with the features
[02:08] <nanaki_yamabushi> and then move back to the folder that I am compiling or how? I am a bit confused bout compiling
[02:08] <void^> irssi has all the features
[02:08] <filemover> it does
[02:08] <TheWahbinator> can't you customize the colors of irssi
[02:08] <filemover> and probably more
[02:08] <ubuntu23413> i did reinstall with extra /boot partition, and grub seems now to be installed, but it dont shows up a menu
[02:08] <chaizzilla> i thnk you just laid it out as far as i pretty much go, filemover
[02:08] <ubuntu23413> only tells: Starting Grub 1.5
[02:09] <filemover> but after using mIRC in windows i wanted something similar and this did the trick for me
[02:09] <cimon> <3 dapper
[02:09] <Sactown> Arg! The join part messages are driving me nutty!
[02:09] <filemover> u can configure the way everything looks unlike xchat where u can only change the colours of the thing
[02:10] <filemover> and there are multiple windows within the parent
[02:10] <TheWahbinator> the multi window interface of irssi is a bit confusing to navigate though
[02:10] <Sactown> XChat sucks
[02:10] <papo> enyc: Hm, do you know whether ubuntu automatically slow down the cpu (celeron cpufreq stuff) when the AC is unplugged?
[02:11] <filemover> its like anything i think when youve had experience with it and u get are comfortable with the way something is and you understand it its ok
[02:11] <enyc> papo: erm.... I know dapper installs the cpufreq taals as-default
[02:11] <enyc> papo: so if its supported.. it will do
[02:11] <filemover> and i found kvirc confusing to start
[02:11] <papo> enyc: great, thanks
[02:11] <cimon> Kwirc is a bit of a resource hog though.
[02:11] <enyc> papo: erm thers a way to check....
[02:11] <chaizzilla> i've got a bunch of windows in irssi tho... i think it's kinna what you're used to; i have yet to spend much time working on a linux install with a gnome(?) thing on linux
[02:11] <fyrestrtr> papo: yes, if its supported.
[02:11] <filemover> but it really opeened up to me
[02:12] <chaizzilla> shoot i'm sleepy
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> papo: you can enable the frequency monitor applet (in gnome) to check what speed your cpu is running at.
[02:12] <enyc> papo: iirc you can use one of the cpufreq-utils to 'check'
[02:12] <papo> very nice
[02:12] <cimon> ...not nearly as bad as evolution, but still.
[02:12] <filemover> thats an idea
[02:12] <filemover> cpu meter
[02:12] <ubuntu23413> can someone please have a look on this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18146
[02:12] <ubuntu23413> why does my grub not work?
[02:13] <nanaki_yamabushi> what is the command line to untar a file correctly?
[02:13] <chaizzilla> tar xvf er...
[02:13] <fyrestrtr> nanaki_yamabushi: tar xvf filename.tar
[02:14] <chaizzilla> what he said, i fergit what the other arg i use is
[02:14] <paniq> poopuntu
[02:14] <TheWahbinator> if it's .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 it's different
[02:14] <nanaki_yamabushi> .tar.gz
[02:14] <TheWahbinator> ok
[02:14] <TheWahbinator> tar xvzf filename.tar.gz
[02:14] <nanaki_yamabushi> and I have a few with tar.bz2
[02:14] <enyc> ubuntu23413: never seen root on raid before ;-) -- is there a problem?
[02:14] <enyc> ubuntu23413: grub cant find a disk?
[02:15] <chaizzilla> hey are there any of those open source hardware crazies on this server?
[02:15] <nanaki_yamabushi> thewahbinator: and for tar.bz2?
[02:15] <TheWahbinator> tar xvjf
[02:15] <ubuntu23413> enyc, i dont know, he only tells "Starting Grub 1.5" ... no more messages
[02:15] <chaizzilla> there's a sort of subset of those that seem into re-using parts
[02:15] <radam> Can anyone tell me how I can stop the current directory being displayed at the command prompt? Currently I have 'adam@adam:~/Desktop$', but I would like 'adam@adam$' (or somthing like that)
[02:15] <radam> it is just annoying when i am in a deep directory
[02:16] <enyc> ubuntu23413: not seen that happen ;-)
[02:16] <spades> radam edit .bashrc and find and remove /W
[02:16] <chaizzilla> what spades said
[02:16] <ubuntu23413> enyc, :(
[02:16] <fyrestrtr> edit your PS1 variable
[02:16] <enyc> ubuntu23413: id be tempted to update the system bios.... and boot fram recovery cd and reinstall grub
[02:16] <ubuntu23413> enyc, with grub-install /dev/sda1?
[02:16] <chaizzilla> ps1 would be good too
[02:17] <ltibor65> kakado, and how can I record with mencoder? from terminal?
[02:17] <fyrestrtr> does anyone know how to get the trashcan to appear on the desktop?
[02:17] <compengi> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration? delete or don not delete
[02:17] <compengi> what should i do?
[02:18] <kakado> ltibor65, yes, look at video4linux forum or google
[02:18] <enyc> ubuntu23413: hrrm ive normally used.... 'grub' 'root (hd0,0)' 'setup (hd0)' method...
[02:18] <enyc> ubuntu23413: but id update the sata/whatnot bios first if it were my system... incase theres been a fixed funny-problem with that
[02:18] <ubuntu23413> enyc, ok i did that 2 minutes ago, because i thought the installer made something wrong
[02:19] <ubuntu23413> enyc, its not the bios, i once runned a fakeraid on it without problems
[02:19] <enyc> ubuntu23413: sure... you can have funny incompalitblities with certaion versions etc. though
[02:19] <ubuntu23413> enyc, but now my windows is gone, and i wanted to switch to softwareraid
[02:19] <enyc> ubuntu23413: I see I see
[02:20] <enyc> ubuntu23413: Id definitiely try updating the system bios now the drive being represented differently at bios-level
[02:20] <ubuntu23413> enyc, hmhm but my menu.lst seems to be ok .. or?
[02:20] <radam> spades: Thanks got it working now!
[02:20] <enyc> ubuntu23413: looks about right but no idea if theres something I donk know about
[02:20] <ubuntu23413> enyc, hmhm ok, ill check for a newer bios version
[02:20] <nanaki_yamabushi> after I compiled with make and became root, to where should I go to do, make install?
[02:21] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: what are you installing?
[02:21] <enyc> ubuntu23413: the raidbios might be representing the disks as one INT 13 bios-supported (hd0) unit still?
[02:21] <marcell_> Hello,I tried to register shipIt, but it does not send me a letter. mail address is ok. what can I do?
[02:21] <enyc> ubuntu23413: if you havent turned off the 'fakeraid' in the bios tool?
[02:21] <chaizzilla> you should create your real user
[02:21] <nanaki_yamabushi> trying to install Lgeneral, but I have seen this in common with some other stuff i still need to compile
[02:22] <ubuntu23413> enyc, i didnt turned on anything in bios for fakeraid.. i used dmraid
[02:22] <enyc> ubuntu23413: hrrm not known about that ;-)
[02:22] <jrib> !info lgeneral
[02:22] <ubotu> lgeneral: A "Panzer General" - like game. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 464 kB, installed size 1756 kB
[02:22] <papo> enyc: just for the record: CONTROL_CPU_FREQUENCY has to be enabled in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf for this to work
[02:22] <NineTeen67Comet> Anyone use their Ubuntu box for mythtv? .. I've got a PVR150 card, and would like to know if anyone has had luck using their box as a media box?
[02:22] <enyc> papo: oh... what is laptop-mode ;-) ?
[02:23] <fyrestrtr> enyc: specific configurations for laptops.
[02:23] <nanaki_yamabushi> I did it from the packanger, but it did not work for me. that is why i am compiling straight from the source
[02:23] <papo> enyc: no idea, looks like something which is enabled when AC is plugged out and controls CPU, Disks and stuff like that
[02:23] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: lgeneral is in the multiverse repository, there is no need to compile.  Use synaptic instead
[02:23] <enyc> NineTeen67Comet: not me.... however  the KnoppMyth project is moving towards an ubuntu-based distribution (but not installable on ubuntu system)
[02:23] <fyrestrtr> NineTeen67Comet: fwiw, I managed to install mythtv successfully and had it recognize my DVB card, other than that, I haven't played around with it.
[02:23] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: what didn't work? did you get errors?
[02:23] <enyc> fyrestrtr: not seen that
[02:23] <enyc> papo: hrrm
[02:23] <filemover> can anyone point me in the right direction with trying to configure my soundcards to change over to my usb audio device
[02:24] <nanaki_yamabushi> refused to instal the pg-data and I could not add extra scenarios at all and could use it to learn compiling.
[02:24] <jrib> !compile > nanaki_yamabushi
[02:24] <chaizzilla> so many needs so little devtodo accessible from irc...
[02:24] <ubuntu23413> enyc, ah, what partition needs to have the boot flag?
[02:24] <NineTeen67Comet> fyrestrtr: that's about how far I got with my other distro install .. ubuntu seems like it'd play nicer . enyc . I've got KnoppMyth, just havne't messed with it ..
[02:24] <ubuntu23413> enyc, only /boot or / ?
[02:24] <enyc> ubuntu23413: the (hd0,0) (/dev/sda1) (/boot)
[02:24] <ubuntu23413> enyc, hm ok
[02:25] <enyc> NineTeen67Comet: KnoppMyth is good ... for dedicated mythtvsbox
[02:25] <enyc> NineTeen67Comet: R5C7 or R5C?? testers-only-release  etc... coming along well...
[02:25] <chaizzilla> what's knoppmyth like?
[02:25] <NineTeen67Comet> enyc: it'll be dedicated .. most of the time .. when we have company over, that's the box they get stuck checking mail on and such ..
[02:25] <filemover> anyone with any experience with audio sound cards here
[02:25] <enyc> chaizzilla: discuss in #knoppmyth  not here ;-)
[02:25] <nanaki_yamabushi> Jrib: I already did ./configure and make as in the instructions. now I need to become root and do make install. only where the hell should i do the make install? directly under root or the folder where lgeneral is in?
[02:25] <ubuntu23413> enyc, what shoul be in "device.map" ? only physical drives, or also the md devices?
[02:25] <enyc> NineTeen67Comet: discuss in #knoppmyth  not here ;-)
[02:25] <chaizzilla> okie :)
[02:26] <NineTeen67Comet> enyc: I'll head back over and check it out too .. I'm still updating this Ubuntu install (120 packages) ..
[02:26] <Daemon> filemover: you mean like under System -> Preferences -> Sounds, "Default sound card" ?
[02:26] <enyc> ubuntu23413: not sure... ive net needed te manually set that
[02:26] <filemover> yes
[02:26] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: ubotu sent you a link with useful info.  Specifically, you want to use 'sudo checkinstall' instead of make install
[02:26] <filemover> easier said than done
[02:26] <filemover> lol
[02:26] <chaizzilla> i need to spend a weekend making a bazillion livecd's to fool around with for a while
[02:26] <filemover> ive been down that path already
[02:26] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib: I am only doing what is in the instruction
[02:26] <filemover> i can get it working via a script
[02:27] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: what instruction?
[02:27] <filemover> but id rather it be triggered by a hot plug event if possible
[02:27] <fyrestrtr> I'm sure everyone knows by now, but just incase. You can get the new SLED menus in gnome now using quinstorm's repos.
[02:27] <spongybob> i was trying to install mysql with one guide, but it messed up.  so i tried another, and now it says access denied, even when i type the same password i set.  i pressed up to view previous commands to make sure
[02:27] <ubuntu23413> enyc, ok thx... ill try something :
[02:27] <fyrestrtr> spongybob: did you install it from apt?
[02:27] <spongybob> yes
[02:27] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib: compile instruction with the source code
[02:27] <filemover> so when i plug in my usb headset it just recognizes it and changes soundcards
[02:27] <fyrestrtr> spongybob: the default root account has no password.
[02:27] <enyc> ubuntu23413: ive not needed to override the default  /dev/?d?? >> (hd0)  mapping really
[02:28] <fyrestrtr> spongybob: (in mysql)
[02:28] <chaizzilla> your chat prog does that filemover?
[02:28] <spongybob> i tried with and without password
[02:28] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: yes, you should read the links ubotu sent you.  It explains it to you in more detail
[02:28] <filemover> ?
[02:28] <enyc> oh well talk later everybody ;-)
[02:28] <spongybob> should i just un-install mysql, and redo it?  is that possible?
[02:28] <filemover> i dont understand chat prog
[02:28] <fyrestrtr> spongybob: mysql -u root -p (and then hit enter) -- that should take you to mysql>
[02:29] <chaizzilla> chat program
[02:29] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib:doing
[02:29] <filemover> ok
[02:29] <filemover> i see
[02:29] <chaizzilla> ciao enc
[02:29] <filemover> im mainly using the heaset for music through amarok
[02:29] <filemover> or for watching films on here
[02:29] <[Wiebel] > hmmm
[02:29] <filemover> headset
[02:29] <[Wiebel] > when using wpa_supplicant my wifi signal is verry bad
[02:29] <[Wiebel] > when using wep it's 95%
[02:29] <[Wiebel] > what can cause this?
[02:30] <chaizzilla> cool, i don't know what makes it work well like that :)
[02:30] <spongybob> aha, that worked, thanks!  i must have did something wrong :)
[02:30] <spongybob> still getting used to typing everything
[02:30] <filemover> u better get used to it
[02:30] <filemover> lol
[02:30] <spongybob> they said ubuntu was the easiest
[02:31] <spongybob> i'd hate to see the others then!
[02:31] <filemover> ive got to say it is i tried Suse 10.1 and it beats it for ease of use hands down
[02:31] <filemover> i actually like using it
[02:31] <spongybob> i like it so far.  once you get the codecs and everything installed, it's jus fine
[02:32] <filemover> yeah
[02:32] <filemover> with suse 10 everything is a big mystery
[02:32] <filemover> here u just install gstreamer
[02:32] <filemover> and away u go
[02:32] <yaeyo> Hi all! I am using dapper with the nvidia driver with Xinerama for a dual head config. I have to add the option IgnoreEDID to xorg.conf in order to remove an ugly black stripe accross the side but with Xinerama it does not seem to work. Anyone meet somehting lke thins before?
[02:32] <filemover> lol
[02:32] <chaizzilla> gsttreaamer?
[02:32] <spongybob> i did the easyUbuntu thingy
[02:33] <filemover> yeah
[02:33] <chaizzilla> there's an easyubuntiu thing
[02:33] <filemover> for xine
[02:33] <UltraMagnus> quick question, do i have to restart x for brightside towork?
[02:33] <chaizzilla> ohh....
[02:33] <spongybob> i guess it's the equivlanet of k-lite codec pack
[02:33] <chaizzilla> i'm used to mplayer but surely could handle moving on if xine does more
[02:34] <filemover> mplayer is better
[02:34] <chaizzilla> oh
[02:34] <nanaki_yamabushi> okay using checkinstall,after that what best to do?
[02:34] <filemover> i reckon
[02:34] <filemover> just an opinion though
[02:34] <chaizzilla> i have to futz with subtitle sync a lot, once those are good the film can be upside down & i'll deal ok
[02:35] <filemover> the only problem ive had is full screen rendering
[02:35] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: that's it, it should be installed after that if there are no errors.  And it will also create a package so you can remove it later using apt
[02:35] <kazukisan> how the hell do you use this stupid skim crap
[02:35] <filemover> but that is probably an  issue with screen res
[02:35] <chaizzilla> skim milk?
[02:35] <kazukisan> kde's scim
[02:35] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib: well is the deb. package on the desktop?
[02:36] <filemover> put it in your coffee
[02:36] <filemover> lol
[02:36] <chaizzilla> i think er... oh man it got complicated
[02:36] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib: or where can I find it?
[02:36] <chaizzilla> like DISPLAY=tv:0 geometru bla bla bla etc
[02:36] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: where you issued the 'sudo checkinstall' command
[02:36] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: but it should have installed it already
[02:37] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib: okay, so that i can easily save the deb file and delete source code folder without fear.
[02:37] <chaizzilla> s cmmon interface m-something
[02:37] <filemover> i want to write somethinig like foobar for linux if i can do it but ive got no real audio experience :(
[02:37] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: oh ok
[02:37] <chaizzilla> what's foobar?
[02:37] <filemover> wouldnt know where to start
[02:37] <filemover> foobar is a freeware audio player for windows
[02:38] <filemover> its probably the best
[02:38] <filemover> in terms of audio quality
[02:38] <chaizzilla> or midi for that matter
[02:38] <oskude> !best
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about best - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:38] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib:great the debian package has a lock on it
[02:38] <chaizzilla> ah okie
[02:38] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: yes because it was created by root (remember you used sudo)
[02:38] <filemover> anyway i suppose i have to start somewhere
[02:39] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib:yes, can I change that?
[02:39] <yaeyo> Nvidia black stripe aler! I am using dapper with the nvidia driver with Xinerama for a dual head config. I have to add the option IgnoreEDID to xorg.conf in order to remove an ugly black stripe accross the side but with Xinerama it does not seem to work. Anyone meet somehting lke thins before?
[02:39] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: sudo chown username:username /path/to/file.deb
[02:40] <chaizzilla> nvidia freaks me out a little
[02:40] <yaeyo> :(
[02:40] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib: thanks, damn compiled it without sound and music.
[02:40] <Dr4g> Can someone gime some help with running Tor ?
[02:40] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib: and I just need sound and music too
[02:41] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: well that is pretty good for a first compile, mine didn't even run :)
[02:41] <chaizzilla> sorry, it started doing super crazy stuff to the xp server/heap here and that was my intro to nvida,
[02:41] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib: yeah but I need to recompile it so I get the darn music and sound running... hmmm how to best do that. can I just simple redo the compiling?
[02:42] <chaizzilla> what's the great debian package?
[02:42] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: probably best to first do 'make clean' and then start at ./configure again, you probably need to mass some arguments to ./configure to get your sound
[02:42] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib: yeah but I wonder which.
[02:43] <chaizzilla> oh! i missed the not-apt thing
[02:43] <jrib> nanaki_yamabushi: you'll have to do some research for that.  Check ./configure --help and the docs for the program
[02:43] <chaizzilla> .configure
[02:43] <Sactown>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY wormhole
[02:43] <Sactown> hmm
[02:44] <nanaki_yamabushi> jrib: i will
[02:44] <Dr4g> haha
[02:44] <DaveyJ> why does my sound keep coming and going depending on reboots :(
[02:45] <chaizzilla> i like it when .configure has lots of suggestions
[02:45] <chaizzilla> what's the reboots for?
[02:45] <MenZa> ouch Sactown.
[02:45] <DaveyJ> to get the sound working lol
[02:46] <DaveyJ> i also messed it up in the menu bar
[02:46] <MenZa> Changed the password, Sactown?
[02:46] <DaveyJ> and i cant get it back to its previous working state
[02:46] <chaizzilla> how long have you been with this install?
[02:46] <DaveyJ> quite a while
[02:46] <chaizzilla> erk, hmm
[02:47] <DaveyJ> new card so the sound is probably a driver issue atm... but the speaker icon
[02:47] <DaveyJ> i cant seem to fix at all
[02:47] <chaizzilla> well take out everything you did in response to the card
[02:47] <chaizzilla> maybe the card too
[02:47] <DaveyJ> ehh it works sometimes
[02:47] <DaveyJ> i'm gunna try rebooting again
[02:47] <cimon> btw. dapper is great, now my HP-printer is nice about scanning images, which wasn't the case with Hoary, Now, whoat do I have to do to get my Crystal Audio sound working?
[02:47] <DaveyJ> once this download finishes
[02:48] <DaveyJ> which it just did! brb
[02:48] <Gassed> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:48] <Gassed> kernel?  - What do I put?
[02:48] <max-_-> Hi there
[02:49] <chaizzilla> seattleites --> http://ifindmyrumpmunchinggirlorgyvidsonthe.net/
[02:49] <Gassed> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:49] <Gassed> kernel? I'm running Ubuntu Linux 6.06 LTS; compiler=GCC
[02:49] <Gassed> what do I put?
[02:49] <chaizzilla> sorry, responding to signoff meessaes means it's time to go run around
[02:49] <max-_-> I tried to configure my ip2200 canon printer with ubuntu cups gui.. autodetection works fine but the printer doesn't print anything
[02:50] <Gassed> Can anybody help me?
[02:50] <oskude> Gassed, http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_kernel_2.6_compile_debian
[02:50] <max-_-> led is flashing, cups says "printing successful
[02:50] <max-_-> any ideas`
[02:51] <Gassed> no im installing VMWare server and the config script has asked me that
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  enable verbose logging for cups - and check its log output as a start.
[02:52] <max-_-> Dr_Willis: ok
[02:52] <Bazzi_> Gassed: just press enter for each question, if you have everything installed it'll work
[02:52] <DaveyJ> LOL
[02:53] <Gassed> It doesnt
[02:53] <Gassed> it keeps asking the same thing
[02:53] <DaveyJ> i had it muted (sp/dif-in) on my media box
[02:53] <Gassed> if I press enter
[02:53] <Bazzi_> so the kernel header files are missing
[02:53] <Bazzi_> install them
[02:53] <Gassed> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:53] <Gassed> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[02:53] <chaizzilla> ha!  woo
[02:53] <Gassed> How?
[02:53] <chaizzilla> i love it when the answer just emerges
[02:53] <Chousuke> Gassed: should work with the default setting
[02:53] <Bazzi_> w/ aptitude or the graphical way
[02:53] <Gassed> what do I put?
[02:53] <Chousuke> Gassed: nothing
[02:53] <Gassed> sudo aptitude install ***
[02:53] <Gassed> Chousuke: It doesnt work with the defalt
[02:53] <Gassed> default*
[02:53] <chaizzilla> is there another project out there like sprog?
[02:53] <Chousuke> or hm, you might have to install linux-headers-2.6
[02:53] <Chousuke> or whatever the package was.
[02:53] <Gassed> k
[02:54] <Chousuke> gah
[02:54] <Chousuke> I'm giving bad advice. :P
[02:54] <Chousuke> the package you need to install depends on your kernel version
[02:54] <Gassed> Im on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[02:54] <Chousuke> that's not the kernel version
[02:54] <GloomyKnight> how can i unistall the game
[02:55] <Chousuke> run uname -r
[02:55] <blackline> Hi. I want to change my screen resolution since I have a widescreen. The resolution I want isnt in the screen resolution settings list in Ubuntu. How can I manually chose it?
[02:55] <whitehorseNtiger> @Chousuke: Bad advice?  Like Microsoft can solve all your problems?
[02:55] <Gassed> How do I find my kernel version?
[02:55] <erUSUL> Gassed: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:55] <Chousuke> whitehorseNtiger: nah.
[02:55] <Gassed> k
[02:55] <Chousuke> Gassed: uname -r tells it.
[02:55] <max-_-> Dr_Willis: what user does cups want on the web interface?
[02:55] <erUSUL> Gassed: this command should do the right thing (tm)
[02:55] <max-_-> i never did a passwd CUPS
[02:55] <DarkMageZ> whitehorseNtiger, no, that'd be considered deliberatly causing damage
[02:56] <erUSUL> !fixresolution > blackline
[02:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about fixresolution  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  the web interface is sort of ocked out by  default under Ubuntu - ya   reenable it to have full use of it,
[02:56] <erUSUL> !fixres
[02:56] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:56] <erUSUL> !fixres > blackline
[02:56] <max-_-> Dr_Willis: reenable via passwd?
[02:56] <soundray> What does the -di_ mean when it occurs in some recent kernel-related package names?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  more to it then that - the forum/wikis got details.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  and yes - i think its sad they did that to it.
[02:57] <reiki> trying to run getkeycodes. "Couldn't find file descriptor referring to the console". Can I get to just a plain console from gnome? and tehn... how do I get back? :)
[02:57] <whitehorseNtiger> How do I make an alias to 'ls' so it always outputs 'ls -la'
[02:57] <max-_-> Dr_Willis: ill check, be back in a minute
[02:57] <Seveas> reiki, <ctrl><alt><f1> to get there, <alt><f7> to go back
[02:57] <Chousuke> whitehorseNtiger: alias ls ='ls -la'
[02:57] <whitehorseNtiger> thanks
[02:57] <Chousuke> whitehorseNtiger: put that in some shell startup script.
[02:57] <Seveas> whitehorseNtiger, echo "alias ls='ls -la'" >> ~/.bashrc
[02:58] <reiki> Seveas: thanks
[02:58] <whitehorseNtiger> great.
[02:58] <whitehorseNtiger> Thanks
[02:58] <pianoboy3333> what's a good program for ripping cds that puts the id3 tags onto them?
[02:59] <soundray> pianoboy3333: abcde
[02:59] <pianoboy3333> soundray: isn't that a library?
[02:59] <soundray> pianoboy3333: no
[02:59] <penguin42> Launchpad question; what is the right way to close a bug that I reported which I've noticed has got fixed ?
[02:59] <Benjamin_L> pianoboy3333, http://lly.org/~rcw/abcde/page/
[02:59] <chaizzilla> is that related the music notataon?
[02:59] <Gassed> ive done the linux headers and it still isnt accepting /usr/src/linux/include
[02:59] <kdean06> I've got kind of a long list of requirements in a voice and video messagning client, is anyone here familiar with the topic that can help me?
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> it used to be, that the application launcher applet in gnome would give you a text box where you enter the command to run. Now, it gives you a button to click. How to revert to the old way of doing things?
[03:00] <soundray> kdean06: what messaging software do you want to install?
[03:00] <chaizzilla> i need to get familiar with it, i'm getting to the "buys a cpen to do the reading for her" level of visual decrepitude
[03:01] <GloomyKnight> sos
[03:01] <Benjamin_L> pianoboy3333, if you want mp3, you should use lame 3.96.1 or better 3.97b2 and use the recommended settings: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=28124
[03:01] <GloomyKnight> how can i uninstall all game in ubuntu
[03:01] <GloomyKnight> how can i uninstall all game in ubuntu
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> kdean06: for voice, skype. For video, gnome-meeting (or whatever its called these days).
[03:01] <chaizzilla> there's gadets but that's not as fun as getting the t23 to do it all
[03:01] <chaizzilla> search for all game on your system & uninstall them?
[03:02] <aeolus> GnomeMeeting is now Ekiga
[03:02] <RvGaTe> I must say, setting up Xgl in ubuntu, piece of cake... i tried it in debian sarge/etch and sid, but that killed me... :S
[03:02] <soundray> fyrestrtr: ekiga
[03:02] <chaizzilla> sox is good for doing some audio tweaks
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> RvGaTe: lol its even easier in SLED 10 :)
[03:02] <GloomyKnight> how can i uninstall all game in ubuntu
[03:02] <GloomyKnight> how can i uninstall all game in ubuntu
[03:02] <soundray> GloomyKnight: do not spam
[03:02] <chaizzilla> what is game?
[03:02] <Gassed> I've got the linux headers package but VMWare server isnt accepting /usr/src/linux/include as the C headers thing
[03:03] <RvGaTe> chaizzilla, guess he doesn't want any games
[03:03] <chaizzilla> uh oh
[03:03] <chaizzilla> oh!
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> Gassed: did you make the symlink? I don't think the package makes it for you.
[03:03] <GloomyKnight> in the applicantions
[03:03] <soundray> GloomyKnight: you can thoroughly remove any package you don't need with 'sudo --purge remove packagename'
[03:03] <Gassed> the what
[03:03] <Gassed> (no)
[03:03] <soundray> GloomyKnight: you can thoroughly remove any package you don't need with 'sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename'
[03:03] <chaizzilla> i thought maybe game was some codec package or something
[03:03] <soundray> GloomyKnight: sry
[03:03] <GloomyKnight> but so many game
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> Gassed: ls -la /usr/src -- do you see a linux in there?
[03:03] <GloomyKnight> i don't know their name
[03:03] <Gassed> k
[03:04] <GloomyKnight> soundray
[03:04] <chaizzilla> games, not to nitpick but "game" threw mw
[03:04] <chaizzilla> er threw me
[03:04] <GloomyKnight> i install ubuntu in a default mode
[03:04] <Gassed> drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4096 2006-07-16 13:57 linux-headers-2.6.15-26
[03:04] <Gassed> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 2006-07-16 13:57 linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[03:04] <Gassed> drwxr-xr-x  7 root root 4096 2006-07-14 21:20 rpm
[03:04] <GloomyKnight> but i not need these game
[03:04] <chaizzilla> uninstall them
[03:04] <soundray> GloomyKnight: many game package names are the same as their entries in /usr/games
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> Gassed: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin. You need to create a symlink called 'linux' in there that points to the headers of the kernel you are using.
[03:05] <Gassed> How?
[03:05] <chaizzilla> are you looking for a way to get an accurate list of the sames & other packages you won't need once they're gone?
[03:05] <hawkaloogie> GloomyKnight, in synaptic there are categories, the green boxes are installed packages, rightclick and choose "remove"
[03:05] <soundray> GloomyKnight: so you could do 'ls /usr/games | xargs sudo apt-get --purge remove'
[03:05] <GloomyKnight> how can i empty it?
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> Gassed: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux
[03:06] <chaizzilla> oo that's neat
[03:06] <zeRmacht> !nvidia
[03:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: please update that factoid and s/monitor/video card :)
[03:06] <GloomyKnight> thanks all guy
[03:07] <Gassed> thanks
[03:07] <chaizzilla> there's still alternatives to nvidia out there right?
[03:07] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, update?
[03:07] <Seveas> !-nvidia
[03:07] <ubotu> nvidia is <alias> binarydriver - Added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 00:21:10
[03:07] <chaizzilla> did you get the answer gloomyight?
[03:07] <penguin42> chaizzilla: ATI, but you need binary drivers for the 3d on that as well
[03:07] <Seveas> !binarydriver =~ s/monitor/video card/
[03:07] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: cheers :)
[03:08] <chaizzilla> there's only two choices out there now?
[03:08] <chaizzilla> euu
[03:08] <kdean06> fyrestrtr, Skype doesn't meet my needs. And Ekiga (GM) dopesn't have any good documentation on how to interoperate with Windows. I require both video and voice at the same time, and it must interoperate with Windows users who may or may not know anything beyond installing a simple, single binary.
[03:08] <fyrestrtr> chaizzilla: choices for what?
[03:09] <Seveas> kdean06, ekiga can cooperate with any windows SIP client
[03:09] <fyrestrtr> kdean06: afaik, Ekiga works with microsoft netmeeting which is available from windows 98 onwards iirc.
[03:09] <soundray> kdean06: ekiga interoperates with MS Netmeeting, afaik (H.323 standard)
[03:09] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, ekiga does sip too
[03:09] <GloomyKnight> soudray the result is display E: Couldn't find package banner
[03:09] <max-_-> Dr_Willis: and now? where to paste this long log?
[03:10] <Jamo> has everyone installed JBoss on ubunut?
[03:10] <Seveas> no
[03:10] <GloomyKnight> how can i do?
[03:10] <chaizzilla> or are those the big two if you need high-rate graphics?
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  not here.. read  it and see if there sny clue as to what its doing. (may want to use pastebin.com also)
[03:10] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: I got the setting to stick
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> !paste
[03:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:10] <kdean06> Seveas, fyrestrtr soundray I thank you. I've heard that Netmeeting (h.323) and Messenger (SIP) both work with Ekiga. The problem I have is that I've never used Windows. I can't explain to peoploe who to call an Ekiga user with them, and documentation is horrible, and IRC even worse.
[03:11] <UltraMagnus> how do i get panel applets like bubblemon to run? please
[03:11] <max-_-> i know about the pastbin, but log is too long for ;)
[03:11] <GloomyKnight> where is the game directory?
[03:12] <soundray> GloomyKnight: perhaps it is best to do a 'ls /usr/games', find the names listed in synaptic, and remove them from there.
[03:12] <Tomatix> most likely that the package is named   gnome-games  or so...
[03:12] <GloomyKnight> hey soundray can i add you?
[03:12] <chaizzilla> gloomyknight your nick reminds me of nochnoy dozor
[03:13] <soundray> UltraMagnus: have you installed the package through apt-get?
[03:14] <UltraMagnus> soundray: synaptic
[03:15] <soundray> UltraMagnus: right click on the panel, select Add to Panel, scroll to the end of the list, click on Bubblemon, click on the Add button
[03:15] <GloomyKnight> chaizzilla i can't understand what you say
[03:15] <UltraMagnus> soundray: ty
[03:15] <soundray> UltraMagnus: nice utility :)
[03:16] <soundray> UltraMagnus: do you know lavaps?
[03:17] <shukhrat> Hello people
[03:17] <Hobbsee_> hi shukhrat
[03:17] <UltraMagnus> soundray: no, should i?
[03:17] <shukhrat> why ubuntu heven't in Tajik ?
[03:17] <dmsantam> i have a parallel port scanner. how do i get it working on ubuntu?
[03:18] <dmsantam> xsane won't find it - which it claims is normal for parallel port
[03:18] <soundray> UltraMagnus: it's an older program with the same idea, a bit more complex and a windowed, resizable application (rather than an applet)
[03:18] <UltraMagnus> soundray: how do i add something to the right of the default seperator
[03:18] <shukhrat> where i can download C/C++ compiler ?
[03:18] <penguin42> shukhrat: Install the build-essential package
[03:19] <spongybob> probably dumb question, but when i installed apache, why is it's path var/www?  and not something like programs/apache/htdocs?
[03:19] <soundray> UltraMagnus: right click, unlock if locked, right click, move
[03:19] <dmsantam> spongybob, that's just the way it is
[03:19] <dmsantam> spongybob, you can change it if you want
[03:19] <UltraMagnus> soundray: its not locked, and cant be moved
[03:19] <spongybob> where would i find apache's config file?
[03:19] <soundray> UltraMagnus: then other locked applets prevent it from being moved
[03:20] <dmsantam> spongybob, /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[03:20] <spongybob> okie thanks :D
[03:20] <dmsantam> spongybob, np
[03:20] <spongybob> :P
[03:20] <UltraMagnus> soundray: they dont appear to be locked, i am talking about the seperator next to the battery monitor, network monitor and sound options
[03:20] <shukhrat> penguinm42: Build-essential package ???
[03:21] <penguin42> shukhrat: Yeh, just install it - it should pull in compilers, libraries and most of the basics
[03:21] <soundray> UltraMagnus: I think what you're looking at is the Notification Area
[03:21] <UltraMagnus> soundray: yeah
[03:21] <UltraMagnus> soundray: i cannot add something to there?
[03:21] <munzir> Hi, I want to backup apache2 folder without its subdirectories so I tried sudo rdiff-backup --print-statistics --include /etc/apache2/ --exclude '*' / /backup but this backed up all the folder, what's wrong please?
[03:22] <dmsantam> munzir, deja vu
[03:22] <fyrestrtr> UltraMagnus: sure you can.
[03:22] <soundray> UltraMagnus: no, the Notif.Area is for programs that need to notify you of something, such as the update notifier.
[03:22] <munzir> dmsantam: sorry?
[03:22] <max-_-> Dr_Willis, looking on canon.com helps alot :D
[03:22] <UltraMagnus> fyrestrtr: how?
[03:22] <IseeIsee> what is it in development that linux has which windows does not have ?
[03:22] <UltraMagnus> now im confused...
[03:22] <max-_-> there seems to be a driver
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  ugh a cannon? - my cannon printer is 100% NOT supported.
[03:22] <munzir> dmsantam: may be yes
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  :( cups.org is good place to find info also. :)
[03:23] <fyrestrtr> UltraMagnus: just move the icon there of whatever applet you want? That's what I did with the show desktop.
[03:23] <max-_-> Dr_Willis, no, i've been there
[03:23] <nanaki_yamabushi> Jrib: I have problems to get the pg-data converted. all the files are root
[03:23] <fyrestrtr> linuxprinting.org ftw :)
[03:23] <spongybob> i'm trying to extract cakephp files from a zip into var/www, but it says I don't have permission.  How do I make it ask me the password so I can type it?
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  sad in this day and age - the printer makers can refuse to realseass specs for their things.
[03:23] <Taza> I've got an odd problem. I'm using a p2 which identifies it's graphics card as a Matrox Mystique 1064SG. However, the mga driver suggested by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg simply fails when trying to start x (using xubuntu btw). What driver should I use?
[03:23] <soundray> IseeIsee: can you rephrase that?
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> !sudo > spongybob
[03:24] <spongybob> is there a way to extract files without the command line?
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> Taza: vesa will work.
[03:24] <max-_-> Dr_Willis, not only printer makers..look at scanners, webcams, notebook......
[03:24] <UltraMagnus> fyrestrtr: i dont appear to be able to move anything into the notifications area
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> spongybob: double click the archive in gnome.
[03:24] <max-_-> very mad world
[03:24] <soundray> Taza: try the VESA driver. Or find out what is causing the failure by reviewing the tail end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  yep.. but Printer makers - gesh... :)
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> UltraMagnus: you can't put it in the notification area, just around it.
[03:24] <IseeIsee> I mean why should linux be a considered better for development (i.e. java, C#, websites etc) versus windows ?
[03:24] <spongybob> thats what i did
[03:24] <amortvigil> can sombody help me with gflrx?
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  of cours eya got problems with windows drivers.. like 4 identical NIC's using same chipset - using 4 different drivers. :)
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: who said that?
[03:25] <soundray> UltraMagnus: the Notif.Area is for programs that need to notify you of something, such as the update notifier. Not for you to put anything inside it.
[03:25] <max-_-> they give me 12kb/s download...poor men there at canon
[03:25] <Taza> soundray: apparently it's not accepting some command. It shows what fails, but I doubt finding that out helps any.
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> IseeIsee,   price for one. :)
[03:25] <TheWahbinator> amortvigil: I think you mean fglrx
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> IseeIsee,  also depends on what you are developing.
[03:25] <amortvigil> TheWahbinator yeah for ati
[03:25] <IseeIsee> well isn't is generally considered better ?
[03:25] <GloomyKnight> god help me i can't remove the game program
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> amortvigil: have you read the wiki?
[03:26] <UltraMagnus> soundray: you can, i just unlocked the seperator and it worked...... diddent realise that tick next to lock to panel meant it was locked to panel, i thought it meant it would lock it to panel
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> GloomyKnight: what game program?
[03:26] <TheWahbinator> amortvigil you enabled universe and multiverse repos?
[03:26] <GloomyKnight> like "stones"
[03:26] <UltraMagnus> soundray: thanks for the help anyway
[03:26] <GloomyKnight> and other games
[03:26] <GloomyKnight> i don't need play game
[03:26] <GloomyKnight> but when i install the ubuntu it install default.
[03:26] <GloomyKnight> i want to remove it
[03:27] <soundray> GloomyKnight: you may have to remove the ubuntu-desktop package, because it depends on a number of games.
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> 'diddent[sic]  realise that tick next to lock to panel meant it was locked to panel, i thought it meant it would lock it to panel' -- ahh, the moment when the obvious, becomes obvious.
[03:27] <GloomyKnight> yes i don't need the gnome game
[03:27] <GloomyKnight> how can i do?
[03:27] <spongybob> i have the zip archive open.. and filebrowser open.. i go to drag the files from the zip to the folder, and i don't have permission.  but it didn't even give me a chance to type my password.. again
[03:27] <soundray> GloomyKnight: are you reading any of my responses?
[03:27] <GloomyKnight> yes
[03:28] <nanaki_yamabushi> I have problems converting the pg-data for lgeneral, the files are all locked as root. how can i change it so I can convert them
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> GloomyKnight: have you tried sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-games gnome-games-data ?
[03:28] <GloomyKnight> i try according you advise
[03:28] <soundray> GloomyKnight: then be specific about why what I'm suggesting doesn't work.
[03:28] <GloomyKnight> bu i fail
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> !sudo > nanaki_yamabushi
[03:28] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know how to save a channel password for auto joins?
[03:28] <Taza> fyrestrtr, soundray: vesa works, thanks.
[03:28] <GloomyKnight> no i try
[03:28] <shukhrat> !Dapper-Drake resopitories
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about Dapper-Drake resopitories - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:28] <nanaki_yamabushi> and then?
[03:28] <soundray> Taza: it's a pity, mga has nice 2D acceleration...
[03:28] <nanaki_yamabushi> the folder is on the desktop though
[03:29] <shukhrat> where i can find daper-drake repositories ?
[03:29] <soundray> !easysource
[03:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:29] <GloomyKnight> thanks fyrestrtr and soundray
[03:29] <soundray> shukhrat: ^^
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> heh 2d acelleration. :P how Old-SKool!
[03:29] <Taza> soundray: Meh, I prefer Irssi, Links and Nano anyway.
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:29] <penguin42> shukhrat: What do you mean - if you are running dapper then you don't need to do anything
[03:29] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know how to save a channel password for auto joins? And block join/quit messages?
[03:29] <amortvigil> TheWahbinator ive installed it but it gives eroors ill make paste bun
[03:29] <TheWahbinator> k
[03:29] <Corporal_Dirge> Oh, in XChat
[03:29] <shukhrat> i have old version of ubuntu
[03:29] <soundray> Taza: ah okay, you'll be fine with VESA then
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> Corporal_Dirge,   :) join/quit is mentioned in the xcaht docs.  i forget the comandya got to use.
[03:30] <CaptainMorgan> do .exe work in linux?
[03:30] <soundray> !tell shukhrat about upgrade
[03:30] <abhinay> hi ubuntus !
[03:30] <Corporal_Dirge> Where are the docs?
[03:30] <GloomyKnight> so cool
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> CaptainMorgan: no
[03:30] <Sitix> Hello, can anyone please help me with my ALSA?
[03:30] <penguin42> CaptainMorgan: You can try 'wine' to run windows executables, but its touchy - so normally, no
[03:30] <dirk_> hallo
[03:30] <soundray> !ask
[03:30] <GloomyKnight> thanks soudray and fyrestrtr i succeed
[03:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> GloomyKnight: your welcome.
[03:31] <Sitix> Okay =D
[03:31] <abhinay> Sitix, wot was the problem ?
[03:31] <Sitix> I can't play two sounds at the same time... for example, not XMMS and a movie in Firefox at the same time...
[03:31] <GloomyKnight> hmmm i like this way
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[03:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:32] <soundray> CaptainMorgan: no. Normally .exe is an extension that signifies a DOS/Windows executable.
[03:32] <GloomyKnight> fyrestrtr i want to listen MP3 music which program should load?
[03:32] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > GloomyKnight
[03:32] <fyrestrtr> GloomyKnight: see the message you get from ubotu
[03:33] <GloomyKnight> i install xmms
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> Sitix: do you have a built-in sound card?
[03:33] <GloomyKnight> but i work bad
[03:33] <Sitix> Yeh, on an Asus laptop... I thought is was SIS hardware..
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> Sitix: you need to enable the 'virtual' mixer as your sound card doesn't support simultaneous streams (which is why you can only play one audio thing at a time).
[03:34] <dirk_> hallo
[03:34] <Sitix> And how an I do that?
[03:34] <dirk_> ich habe leider ein problem mit xchat
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> !dmix > Sitix
[03:34] <bbrazil> !de
[03:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> Sitix: with something called dmix. The URLs ubotu sent you should help.
[03:35] <dirk_> ich habe xchat-gnome unter ubuntu 6.06 deinstalliert und stattdessen xchat 2.6.1 und xchat-common installiert
[03:35] <KenSentMe> I'm filing a bug report for opening .ai files in inkscape and now i have to add a small .ai file to the report. Can anyone send me a small .ai file, i don't have Adobe Illustrator myself
[03:35] <Sitix> Okay, thanks
[03:35] <RvGaTe> How can i load the default config of gset-compriz?
[03:35] <cwillu> why doesn't ~/.ssh/config do anything :(
[03:35] <Corporal_Dirge> ug.
[03:35] <Sitix> I'll be back if something doesn't work ;)
[03:35] <chaizzilla> !mp3
[03:35] <Laney> np:
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:35] <dirk_> wenn ich jedoch auf "verbinde" klicke, dann strzt xchat mit einer "segmentation fault" ab
[03:35] <RvGaTe> How can i load the default config of gset-compiz? (typo)
[03:35] <sri_> can any one tell the command for closing the CD-rom
[03:36] <chaizzilla> !mplayer
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> cwillu,  what you expecting it to do?
[03:36] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Try " sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts " ( multiverse must be enabled see !repos ).
[03:36] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> RvGaTe: what do you mean default config?
[03:36] <Corporal_Dirge> I can't use an external HDD because I need to mount it as root. Any way to do this through the GUI?
[03:36] <chaizzilla> you can specify the font too w/mplayer
[03:36] <cwillu> Dr_Willis: let me connect to a machine named in it
[03:36] <RvGaTe> fyrestrtr, like, when you install it... it gives you a default config...
[03:36] <GloomyKnight> don't the beep media play support mp3 type?
[03:36] <RvGaTe> fyrestrtr, i changed it, but didn't like it, now i want the default back
[03:37] <GloomyKnight> does the beep media play support mp3 type?
[03:37] <RvGaTe> fyrestrtr, normally there should be a "default" button on these kind of stuff... but thre isn't
[03:37] <chaizzilla> beep media?
[03:37] <sri_> can any one tell the command for closing the CD-rom
[03:37] <chaizzilla> mount?
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> GloomyKnight: you need to install the codecs. Read the wiki entry for restrictedformats
[03:37] <chaizzilla> oh oh
[03:37] <Corporal_Dirge> Yeah
[03:37] <chaizzilla> they wouldn't be in debian by default, not to be difficult but
[03:37] <GloomyKnight> okay
[03:37] <chaizzilla> to cover their groove
[03:38] <Taza> Wow.
[03:38] <Taza> My xubuntu just crashed totally. Completely.
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> RvGaTe: don't know, but since this is highly alpha software, expect bugs. Also, xgl is in #ubuntu-xgl :)
[03:38] <RvGaTe> fyrestrtr, its not a bug, i just need the default config :S
[03:38] <chaizzilla> the sun is up, the search for my film short co-star begins again....
[03:38] <spongybob> how do you extract files in a zip info a folder you don't have permission of?
[03:38] <GloomyKnight> which the best media play you used fyrestrtr?
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> RvGaTe: not having a 'reset to default' button is a bug.
[03:39] <Taza> I didn't think it was dealing quite properly with the 1024x786 resolution, but that kind of dying just was fantastic.
[03:39] <chaizzilla> sudo
[03:39] <wheels3572> Can anyone answer this question for me.  Can you setup keyboard shortcuts for a program that's NOT in the keyboard shortcut list?
[03:39] <sri_> fyrestrtr, u know the cmd for closing the cd-rom?
[03:39] <frogzoo> Taza: ati vid card?
[03:39] <RvGaTe> fyrestrtr, more like an "not yet added feature" :P
[03:39] <frying_fish> GloomyKnight: I have found VLC for video to be the best, and I use audacious now for audio
[03:39] <Taza> frogzoo: Matrox.
[03:39] <chaizzilla> is mount /cd not it?
[03:39] <chaizzilla> or something like that
[03:39] <RvGaTe> fyrestrtr, bugs are stuff that are there, but not working correctly
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> spongybob: sudo chown username:username filename.zip -- change ownership to it, then chmod 755 filename.zip
[03:39] <shukhrat> !
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> mount /media/cdrom
[03:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:39] <shukhrat> !LAMP
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> umount /media/cdrom
[03:39] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:39] <chaizzilla> i like vlc too
[03:39] <Taza> frogzoo: It left half the x window on the screen, with an unreadable shell taking the half above it.
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> sri_: what do you mean, close it?
[03:39] <frying_fish> Audacious is a fork of bmp, that is a fork of xmms, and can be found and  http://audacious-media-player.org
[03:39] <frogzoo> wheels3572: not easily, but yes
[03:40] <chaizzilla> dooh, thanks dr_willis
[03:40] <spongybob> all of that?  why does it even let me double click and open it in archive manager if it don't work?
[03:40] <jpjacobs> sri_, eject -t <device>
[03:40] <wheels3572> I want to set up a shortcut for Gaim is why I ask and I dont see it in the list
[03:40] <sri_> fyrestrtr, if we kept the cd in the cd rom then...
[03:40] <GloomyKnight> if i want to uninstall the beep media play what command shoud i use?
[03:40] <frying_fish> wheels3572: KDE or gnome?
[03:40] <sri_> jpjacobs, ya i know how to eject
[03:40] <jpjacobs> sri_, no this closes the tray
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> make a launcher that launches   /usr/bin/gaim
[03:41] <sri_> jpjacobs, but how to close the cd rom?
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> GloomyKnight: in synaptic, search for it, then click the green box next to its name, and choose remove.
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> GloomyKnight: then hit apply.
[03:41] <jpjacobs> sri_, mind the -t ;)
[03:41] <GloomyKnight> green box means what?
[03:41] <sri_> jpjacobs, k thank u
[03:41] <wheels3572> Frying:  I honestly dont know lol sorry newbie but if this helps I am using Dapper Drake with no changes to the install
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> GloomyKnight: means a box that's colored green, indicating a package has been installed.
[03:41] <chaizzilla> oooo thanks whoever popped up the lamp thing
[03:41] <frying_fish> wheels3572: ok, Kubuntu or Ubuntu
[03:41] <sri_> jpjacobs, ya thank u
[03:42] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I add a channel with a password to the auto-join in Xchat-gnome??
[03:42] <GloomyKnight> thy
[03:42] <GloomyKnight> thx
[03:42] <frying_fish> if ubuntu, then open gconf-editor, go to apps->metacity->global keybindings
[03:42] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: ask in #xchat
[03:42] <Corporal_Dirge> Or is xchat-gnome the good one?
[03:42] <ash123> hi..
[03:42] <wheels3572> Frying:  Ubuntu
[03:42] <jpjacobs> sri_, you're welcome
[03:42] <frying_fish> and plug in the code you want, say <ctrl><alt>g into a numbered box
[03:42] <ash123> need help on ubuntu software..
[03:42] <frying_fish> then following that go to keybinding_commands
[03:42] <Loevborg> Does anyone know if it's possible to get a more current NetworkManager for dapper?
[03:42] <frying_fish> and find the same numbered one and edit it to say "/usr/bin/gaim"
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> Loevborg: why, what's wrong with the one you have?
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> !ask
[03:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:43] <chaizzilla> networkmanager!
[03:43] <ash123> any suggestion for 32 bit ubuntu os..
[03:43] <frying_fish> ash123: be more specific.
[03:43] <Loevborg> fyrestrtr, my NetworkManager crashes when using ndiswrapper
[03:43] <GloomyKnight> fyrestrtr where can i find "synaptic"
[03:43] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, how do I set up ubuntu to mount external HDD on boot? It's saying I need root to mount it right now.
[03:43] <chaizzilla> have you looked at "sprog
[03:43] <frying_fish> GloomyKnight: system->administration
[03:44] <zeRmacht> I am new to linux
[03:44] <zeRmacht> how do I "install a package"
[03:44] <zeRmacht> I need to get my wine working.
[03:44] <Loevborg> fyrestrtr, I mean
[03:44] <frying_fish> Corporal_Dirge: prepend sudo to the command
[03:44] <jpjacobs> zeRmacht, use synaptic
[03:44] <ash123> right now i am using ubuntu 6.06.. it is slow..
[03:44] <zeRmacht> How?
[03:44] <frying_fish> zeRmacht: in synaptic
[03:44] <zeRmacht> My first day on Linux
[03:44] <frying_fish> ash123: be more specific.
[03:44] <chaizzilla> heh you
[03:44] <zeRmacht> where in synaptic
[03:44] <frying_fish> Explain what is causing it to be slow, or anything like that.
[03:44] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I do it in the gui, I'm tired of going to terminal.. and is there a way to do it in the gui?
[03:44] <GloomyKnight> thans frying_fish
[03:44] <jpjacobs> zeRmacht, system>Administration>Synaptic
[03:44] <frying_fish> zeRmacht: search for WINE
[03:44] <GloomyKnight> i find it
[03:45] <ash123> for a machine with only 64mb ram
[03:45] <frying_fish> Corporal_Dirge: to be good with linux, you need to use the terminal
[03:45] <penguin42> ash123: Minimum recommended is 256
[03:45] <saxin_> ash123, you use ubuntu with only 64mb ram?
[03:45] <frying_fish> ash123: ok, for a start, don't use gnome or KDE, use XFCE
[03:45] <zeRmacht> One of the files I need is not here
[03:45] <Corporal_Dirge> stop giving no-shit answers'
[03:45] <zeRmacht> Libwine-alsa
[03:45] <chaizzilla> isn't it sweet when you're on good roll with linux?
[03:46] <Corporal_Dirge> I know sudo, I know terminal, I'm asking a GUI quiestion
[03:46] <sri_> ubotu, my hard disk is 80 gb & i connect a 80 gb hard disk;each time i have to mount it........How can i mount it perminently?
[03:46] <ash123> i heard about xubuntu..can it work well with my 64 mb ram mavhine?
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> ash123,  should.
[03:46] <chaizzilla> i gotta try xubuntu on my t23...
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> ash123,   you can always install even more minimal window managers
[03:46] <ash123> ok..thanks a lot..am dl it now
[03:46] <frying_fish> Corporal_Dirge: well to set it to mount on boot, create a udev rule for the device and then add that devices static location (that you defined in the udev rule) to /etc/fstab
[03:46] <chaizzilla> goodness
[03:47] <frying_fish> sri_: add the entry to /etc/fsta
[03:47] <phewl> why is my comp all laggy when i try to play Nexuiz ??
[03:47] <chaizzilla> that was my co-star, sorry folks
[03:47] <sri_> frying_fish, how?
[03:47] <frying_fish> sri_: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:47] <sri_> frying_fish, k 1m
[03:47] <frying_fish> and define the appropriate entry, follow the style of the other ones.
[03:48] <ToHellWithGA> my installer is crashing when installing "ubiquity"
[03:48] <Hobbsee> ahhh...
[03:48] <Corporal_Dirge> Why does the GUI keep switcing from Root to user for the HDD Sometimes it's one sometimes it another. If I set it up it'll swap around when the GUI loads.
[03:48] <chaizzilla> is there something a little more complicated than twm but not as complicated as fvwm?
[03:48] <wheels3572> Frying:  Is this all done by CLI cuz if not I cant find metacity in the GUI?
[03:48] <ToHellWithGA> is there a way to install without "ubiquity" then try to install it later using online repositories?
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> Corporal_Dirge,  that made no sence at all.
[03:48] <chaizzilla> uh oh, i remember that happening to me years ago when i had to start sharing a desk..
[03:48] <sri_> frying_fish, ya i open it then..
[03:48] <ash123> downloading the xubuntu now.. thanks bro,,
[03:48] <Corporal_Dirge> I know, that's the roblem
[03:49] <GloomyKnight> synaptic is the front of apt right?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Corporal_Dirge,  your statement made no sence. :)  i cant even tell what you are talking about.
[03:49] <saxin_> ash123, you dont need to.. just install the windowmanager
[03:49] <chaizzilla> is there anything wierd going on w/your userIDs?
[03:49] <jpjacobs> righy
[03:49] <sri_> frying_fish, how can i add the entry?
[03:49] <jpjacobs> right
[03:49] <frying_fish> sri_: define an appropriate entry, with the location of the disk, the mount point, the filesystem type, permissions and such.
[03:49] <Corporal_Dirge> It boots and is mounted by the gui with the users rights, next boot it's not mounted and needs root. back and forth.
[03:49] <sebastian> What is the ubuntu's finland channel?
[03:49] <mjr> sebastian, #ubuntu-fi
[03:49] <chaizzilla> that's messed up
[03:49] <sebastian> *finnish channel
[03:49] <mjr> welcome
[03:49] <sebastian> Thx
[03:50] <chaizzilla> it's wierdly familiar tho, lemme poke through some ticket archives maybe i'll have an answer :)
[03:50] <VoX> anyone know a good grub how-to for booting windows? mine keeps coming up with an error..
[03:51] <chaizzilla> what error?
[03:51] <VoX> error 13
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> VoX,  normally its a 4 line grub entry - and thtas all tehre is to it. :)
[03:51] <sri_> frying_fish, sorry i am new to linux can u explain it?
[03:51] <RvGaTe> I need someone to help me restore my compiz configuration (using gset-compiz)... is there a config file for it? or is it only possible with gset-config to set the correct values? if so, i need someone to name the values they have...
[03:51] <VoX> Dr_Willis: yeah i know.. i dont understand why it isnt working
[03:51] <frying_fish> sri_: look at the other lines in there
[03:51] <frying_fish> or on the wiki, it will be there
[03:51] <ToHellWithGA> is there a new version of dapper out with a fix for the ubiquity installer bug?
[03:51] <VoX> rootnoverify, map, map, chainloader +1, done
[03:51] <spongybob> when i double click a file in var/www.. it's read only.  is the only way to open it so it's editable with the command line?
[03:51] <VoX> but.. it's not a happy camper for some reason
[03:52] <ToHellWithGA> i'm googling and several people have the same problem where the installer crashes while installing ubiquity
[03:52] <GloomyKnight> how can it detect my video is ok?
[03:53] <frying_fish> spongybob: you will need to be root to have write permissions in that dir
[03:53] <spongybob> i thought i am root, i'm the only user
[03:53] <max-_-> Dr_Willis, "Unable to open USB port device file: No such file or directory"
[03:53] <spongybob> and i type the sudo stuff all the time
[03:53] <sri_> frying_fish, can i change the fstab ...?
[03:53] <max-_-> Dr_Willis, Device URI: cnij_usb:/dev/usblp0
[03:53] <frying_fish> spongybob: nope, you are a regular user
[03:53] <max-_-> wtf?
[03:53] <spongybob> how do i gain root?
[03:53] <frying_fish> you will need to add sudo to the start, or sudo -s to be root
[03:54] <GloomyKnight> i install vlc and want to play a MP3 but it't no sound.
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> max-_-,  got me totally confused. :)
[03:54] <frying_fish> GloomyKnight: make sure you have your sound setup correctly,
[03:54] <frying_fish> do any other programs produce sound?
[03:54] <spongybob> i was thinking, maybe if i right click the file.. it'll say "open as root".. but nope
[03:54] <filemover> im just using ktorrent what a Killer of a program!
[03:54] <GloomyKnight> it's ok
[03:54] <chaizzilla> vlc has the codecs all built in
[03:54] <GloomyKnight> other program use it is ok
[03:54] <frying_fish> spongybob: nope.
[03:54] <chaizzilla> do you use asamix?
[03:54] <chaizzilla> ah okie
[03:55] <frying_fish> vlc has it all built in, so you haven't got your sound setup correctly for alsa I don't think
[03:55] <frying_fish> sri_: if you are root then you can change it
[03:55] <chaizzilla> asamix, alsa, i meant alsa
[03:55] <frying_fish> but don't jsut reboot after editing it, just type sudo mount -a
[03:56] <frying_fish> and see if it does the appropriate things, if not then edit it again (you need root priveleges)
[03:56] <sri_> frying_fish, <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>      this is the syntax...?
[03:56] <frying_fish> no
[03:56] <VoX> Dr_Willis: this is my grub entry for windows..: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d18149
[03:56] <abhinay> iam not able do voice chat with skype while an audio player playing a song ... why ? any suggustions ?
[03:56] <Hz4> Finnish channel is sleeping, but i think someone can help me here? I need some help with installing MOC-Player. I don't find any command-line or tutorial for installation... Please help
[03:56] <sri_> frying_fish, then how..?
[03:56] <frying_fish> <device location> <mount point> <filesystem> <options>
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: do you have a built-in sound card?
[03:57] <GloomyKnight> i use a notebook
[03:57] <chaizzilla> dang once you stop having time to roll your own you
[03:57] <chaizzilla> re atthe mercy of wierdness
[03:57] <GloomyKnight> i didn't know anything about it's config
[03:57] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, i don't know, Hw  can i know dat ?
[03:57] <chaizzilla> what sort of notebook?
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> Hz4: sudo apt-get install moc
[03:57] <Hz4> working?
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: is it a laptop?
[03:58] <GloomyKnight> other program is work well it can soud
[03:58] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, no
[03:58] <GloomyKnight> but vlc can't
[03:58] <chaizzilla> ok, we're testing vlc then...
[03:58] <Hz4> thx... it works
[03:58] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, it is a p4 system with intel motherboard
[03:59] <phaedrus44> sweet...finally got mplayer installed
[03:59] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: if you don't have a soundblaster or any other card added to your machine, then you are using the built-in sound card. These cards cannot support multiple streams (more than one thing playing something).  Easy solution - don't listen to music while voice chatting. Difficult solution, see !dmix
[03:59] <frying_fish> GloomyKnight: make sure you are using alsa for your sound output, as somethings in gnome use esd
[03:59] <frying_fish> and vlc uses alsa or oss
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> VoX,  heh - that url wantes to open its own .txt file :) odd.
[03:59] <GloomyKnight> my book is compaq nc600
[03:59] <GloomyKnight> nc6000
[03:59] <chaizzilla> okie sokie
[04:00] <GloomyKnight> how can i do?
[04:00] <chaizzilla> how would he see which one vlc is using?
[04:00] <chaizzilla> maybe it's the only one
[04:00] <VoX> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18149
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> VoX,  so you are swapping your 2 drives - because windows is installed on the 2nd hard drive eh?
[04:00] <VoX> Dr_Willis: correct
[04:00] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, but windows supports multiple streams in my system
[04:01] <frying_fish> chaizzilla: in preferences -> audio ->output modules  (with advanced turned on)
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> VoX,  :) this is windows xp? and it was installed to the 2nd hd where it was at? or how?
[04:01] <iceni> hi should a program made for Dapper work with Breezy? i downloaded something and all the symlinks are wrong. all the screenshots are of Dapper
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: yes, because it installs a 'virtual mixer' with the windows drivers.
[04:01] <chaizzilla> preferences in vlc... okie, of course :)  i forgot it had a gui :)
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: you can do the same with dmix, an extenstion for alsa.
[04:01] <GloomyKnight> should i use VLC media setting to set something?
[04:01] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, ok lets try
[04:01] <frying_fish> iceni: look for a backport
[04:01] <chaizzilla>    oh yea i totally remember this now
[04:01] <VoX> Dr_Willis: yeah, xp. disconnected my other drives, installed fine, worked fine for a few months, then just.. stopped. havent changed _anything_.
[04:02] <jkp> guys - how can i set up a shell environment for root?
[04:02] <LjL> jkp: what do you mean? like setting environment variables and aliases?
[04:02] <jkp> i know there is no root user, but when i do sudo -s i would like a way to setup the environment
[04:02] <jkp> yeah
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> there is a root user. hes just cant login in directly
[04:02] <iceni> frying_fish: i don't think there is one, it says it's fairly new. i'll have a look though.
[04:02] <Dr_Willis>  - /root/.bashrc and so forth exist
[04:02] <jkp> im installing some sw that needs me to be root to do it, and each time i have to manually set the path etc
[04:02] <LjL> jkp: well you can just do it as if you *had* root. i.e. change the various settings file in the /root home directory
[04:02] <jkp> its a pain
[04:02] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, well , hw to install dmix ...
[04:03] <chaizzilla> how do you not have a root user?
[04:03] <jkp> ok
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> !dmix
[04:03] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:03] <LjL> jkp: then login with "sudo -i", and not "sudo -s", because "sudo -s" keeps your *previous* settings as far as variables, aliases etc are concerned
[04:03] <frying_fish> iceni: well if you are compiling it from source, then just make sure you set the right prefixes
[04:03] <jkp> LjL: Previous being?
[04:03] <chaizzilla> is dmix another mixer?
[04:03] <frying_fish> jkp: if you want to use sudo -s and have root settings, just do sudo -i
[04:03] <LjL> jkp: the one of the user that invoked sudo
[04:03] <frying_fish> it acts as a login shell for root and will read /root/.bashrc etc
[04:04] <jkp> LjL: i want that!
[04:04] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, Anyone know where a program goes when you install using Synaptic?
[04:04] <jkp> that would be fine, but it doesnt seem to happen
[04:04] <chaizzilla> oh i totally forgot about that!
[04:04] <chaizzilla> that there -i
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Corporal_Dirge,  the files it downloads go in a cache dir.. but other then that - the actual Installed files - could go anywhere.
[04:04] <jkp> ahhh - it does work
[04:04] <jkp> cool
[04:04] <frying_fish> Corporal_Dirge: go to the package in synaptic, and look at its properties
[04:05] <chaizzilla> !synaptic
[04:05] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:05] <chaizzilla> eek
[04:05] <Corporal_Dirge> Jist installes xtightvncviewer =)
[04:05] <chaizzilla> xtight?
[04:05] <chaizzilla> curious....
[04:05] <Corporal_Dirge> Only one I could find'
[04:05] <penguin42> small
[04:06] <chaizzilla> what's it sacrifice?
[04:06] <penguin42> chaizzilla: Actually its bandwidth, 'optimized for low bandwidth connections'
[04:06] <isheep> hi, i want to install ubuntu on my pc but i dont have vga card yet.. could someone tell me what kind i can buy best for ubuntu :)
[04:06] <GloomyKnight> VLC can't play mp3 music what should i set?
[04:07] <LjL> Corporal_Dirge: you can type "dpkg -L packagename" to see a list of the files contained in the package, with the location they've ended up into
[04:07] <chaizzilla> ohhhh
[04:07] <Kennie> Hi my remote linux machine has trouble, it moutned read-only and fsck doesn't seem to work, any suggestions (Ubuntu 6.06) ?
[04:08] <chaizzilla> that reminds me i rilly wanna get aa set up..
[04:08] <penguin42> Kennie: What access do you have to it?
[04:08] <Kennie> root, not localy
[04:08] <chaizzilla> wrong eun level?
[04:08] <Corporal_Dirge> I see where it is now, just trying to fgure out how to put it into the gui. I have 1 arm in a sling so terminal sucks at the moment
[04:08] <tyabux> isheep, people have told me that nVIDIA has best support for linux.
[04:08] <penguin42> Kennie: anything in a dmesg?
[04:09] <isheep> nvidea? but what type then?
[04:09] <chaizzilla> you can't type with one hand?   geez louise
[04:09] <Corporal_Dirge> I can... slowly
[04:09] <Kennie> [42949386.050000]  EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[04:09] <GloomyKnight> VLC can't play mp3 music what should i set?
[04:09] <GloomyKnight> VLC can't play mp3 music what should i set?
[04:09] <chaizzilla> hey hey
[04:09] <GloomyKnight> someone helo me?
[04:09] <erUSUL> !m3
[04:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about m3 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:09] <Corporal_Dirge> I don't get nightly practice. lol ;)
[04:09] <erUSUL> !mp3
[04:09] <Laney> np:
[04:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:09] <penguin42> Kennie: The ordered stuff is fine
[04:09] <chaizzilla> i missed what mixer your vlc uses
[04:09] <Kennie> ok
[04:09] <isheep> !vga
[04:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about vga - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:09] <Kennie> but reboot doesn't work and neither does a remount
[04:10] <penguin42> Kennie: anything else in the dmesg relating to the device ?
[04:10] <chaizzilla> i bet there's a way to get irssi to do something to make particular threads stand out...
[04:10] <Kennie> will nopaste some sec
[04:10] <Kennie> !nopaste
[04:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about nopaste - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:10] <wiking> how i can download plugins & codecs to play multimedia files
[04:10] <tuxtux> ciao
[04:10] <Hz4> Installation tutorial for i845G drivers?
[04:11] <erUSUL> !mp3
[04:11] <Laney> np:
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <erUSUL> !mp3 > wiking
[04:11] <Kennie> penguin42 : http://rafb.net/paste/results/TGG2ih56.html
[04:11] <tyabux> GloomyKnight, see RestrictedFormats in the wiki
[04:11] <phewl> what are some great games native to ubuntu that some of you plauy
[04:11] <GloomyKnight> could you give me address tyabux?
[04:11] <MenZa> phewl: Planet Penguin Race
[04:11] <MenZa> +R
[04:11] <tyabux> hmm. I was scrolling. :)
[04:12] <bigfoot1> in terminal, how do i convert a folder of wav files into mp3?
[04:13] <tyabux> GloomyKnight, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ <-- You should use this all the time. It has alot of answers to alot of questions. Search for RestrictedFormats
[04:13] <Dai-Galean> Hi Folks
[04:13] <jpjacobs> bigfoot1, best guess with mencoder but how i don't know
[04:13] <GloomyKnight> thy tyabux
[04:13] <chaizzilla> gloomyknight there's also #videolan... er lemme make sure..
[04:13] <snoops> tyabux or he can use the bot in here..
[04:13] <snoops> !restricted > GloomyKnight
[04:14] <penguin42> Kennie: That all looks good
[04:14] <filemover> im having troubles with running make in kdevelop and i have just installed automake 1.7 on top of 1.9 can anyone help
[04:14] <Kennie> yeah, have no idea how to fix this :/
[04:14] <Kennie> driving me nuts
[04:14] <chaizzilla> yea, and the bigfoot, lame, i have a script if you dont have it
[04:15] <Fibbs> Hi folks
[04:15] <tyabux> snoops, it's better to use the website though. If everyone uses this channel for searching the wiki, then there won't be much space for helping. :)
[04:15] <penguin42> Kennie: OK, if it is root then try a mount -o remount /
[04:15] <filemover> is there an irc channel for kdevelop
[04:15] <Kennie> mount: block device /dev/sda2 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:15] <penguin42> Kennie: But it really depends what went wrong, you can force a reboot by   echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger
[04:16] <Kennie> should i try to force the reboot? was afriad whole thing would die then
[04:16] <penguin42> Kennie: Ah well - it is difficult to read its mind
[04:16] <Kennie> hehe
[04:16] <penguin42> Kennie: Are all your partitions read only?
[04:16] <Kennie> only root
[04:16] <chaizzilla> gnight will you need to resample or just encode?
[04:16] <chaizzilla> filemover i think so
[04:16] <Kennie> but only has a root , swap and home
[04:16] <penguin42> Kennie: Is it serial console you have to this box or what? Do you have bios access?
[04:17] <Kennie> nop :/
[04:17] <penguin42> so you are just sshing?
[04:17] <Kennie> yeah
[04:17] <Kennie> and it has WOL and WOK support (mobo)
[04:17] <Kennie> erm WOR ;)
[04:17] <penguin42> Kennie: wok?
[04:17] <Kennie> Wake-On-Ring ;)
[04:17] <netstar> HI DVD playback on PowerPC is borked.  ogle shows no video, VLC jibbers crap, xine-lib crashes, Is there anyway to get gstreamer working with Menu support?
[04:18] <chaizzilla> http://wiki.kde.org/KDE+4+Goals
[04:19] <chaizzilla> what borked it?
[04:19] <penguin42> Kennie: It's difficult to know - without figuring out why it read-only'd it its difficult to guess what will happen; since you are screwed at the moment I think I'd probably force the reobot and hope for the best - but it really wouldn't surprise me if it stopped during boot
[04:19] <Kennie> yeah will do
[04:20] <Kennie> ok think it died, rebooting or really died :P
[04:20] <Gassed> hi
[04:20] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, synaptic didn't install where it said it would.. I can't even locate it in a search
[04:20] <phewl> =[
[04:20] <Gassed> I'm running Windows 3.1 in VMWare Server, What settings do I need to use for the sound device?
[04:21] <Surfer> hi
[04:21] <picket> O_o
[04:21] <penguin42> Kennie: It normally read only mounts if there is a problem writing to the disc at some point
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Gassed,  thats scary..  :)
[04:21] <Gassed> what device will it work as? a SoundBlaster?
[04:21] <Kennie> I know
[04:21] <iceni> frying_fish: thanks for the help. i gave up on the program and did what i needed manually (backing up)
[04:21] <Kennie> hm reboot takes longer then normal
[04:21] <Kennie> could be cus of fixing
[04:21] <Kennie> but could be dead throught
[04:22] <penguin42> Gassed: That comes down to what VMWare pretneds it has got
[04:22] <chaizzilla> cool, that means you got away, now synaptic can't mess things up
[04:22] <Gassed> I know Penguin
[04:22] <Gassed> but what does VMWare pretend to have
[04:23] <frying_fish> Gassed: I don't think windows 3.1 would even have support for a soundblaster, be it in vmware or not
[04:23] <Gassed> it does
[04:23] <Gassed> 1.0 and 1.5
[04:23] <Surfer> I'm looking for help because I can set my ethernet card on laptop... card is based on realtek 8139 chipset I tried everything I could find and nothing works :/
[04:23] <Kennie> penguin42 : server still not getting up
[04:23] <frying_fish> well make vmware think its got that then.
[04:24] <Kennie> think it died :/
[04:24] <chaizzilla> you looking for a driver surfer?
[04:24] <penguin42> Kennie: You killed it
[04:24] <penguin42> Kennie: :-)
[04:24] <Gassed> frying_fish: how?
[04:24] <Kennie> idd :p
[04:24] <frying_fish> Kennie: is it a local machine, i.e. can you hook a keyboard and monitor to it
[04:24] <frying_fish> Gassed: in its config somewhere? never used vmware
[04:24] <Gassed> k
[04:24] <Surfer> I tried 2 drivers 8139cp and 8139too ...
[04:24] <Kennie> remote ;)
[04:24] <penguin42> Kennie: better find someone near the reset button and the screen
[04:24] <erUSUL> Surfer: ifconfig does not work? any error msg
[04:24] <IseeIsee> which linux distro would be comparable with windows_me hardware specs
[04:24] <erUSUL> ?
[04:24] <frogzoo> Surfer: I think google will show that you need recent drivers for that card
[04:24] <freddyubuntu> hi I have sound problem with my dapper ubuntu, I used to solve the problem by Restarting the computer...but now even after I restart the compter, I still hear no sound, when I play music... the ubuntu has NO SOUND...it works in windows.... I didnt have this problem before...PLEASE HELP ME
[04:24] <IseeIsee> on my old pc, win_me is running superb
[04:25] <chaizzilla> hey is the open source alternative to v,ware breathing yet
[04:25] <Kennie> penguin42 yeah but doesnt have to be fast, server was just up and not being used YET
[04:25] <bbrazil> Surfer: that's a vbery well supported chipset. What was the problem?
[04:25] <Surfer> ifconfig shows card but without settings like ip or netmask
[04:25] <frying_fish> IseeIsee: you mean to say you run windows ME, which is there worst ever, and was really broken, well any machine that can run that can run a recent linux
[04:25] <Surfer> and dhcp cand get these informations :/
[04:25] <bbrazil> Surfer: then you just need to configure it
[04:25] <penguin42> Kennie: Ah - if it did a readonly then I'd give the disc a really good checkout before putting it into service
[04:25] <Surfer> ti have dynamic IP
[04:25] <freddyubuntu> I have no  Sound in Dapper ...PLEASE HELP
[04:25] <frogzoo> freddyubuntu: tried volume control settings? you need to look for mutes for all devices
[04:25] <programmer> i am getting the following error when compiling a c++ program. The problem is I'm unable to understand the error as the character set is not ascii. could anyone help me...hello.cpp:4: error: \200\230i\200\231 does not name a type
[04:25] <freddyubuntu> yeah frozgooo
[04:25] <chaizzilla> what sorta laptop do you have?
[04:26] <Kennie> think its gonna be a raid controler with 2 decent hdds and no sucky maxtor :p
[04:26] <Surfer> tried set static using data from windows but with no luck
[04:26] <freddyubuntu> frogzoo yeah I have chedk it
[04:26] <bbrazil> Surfer: add teh line 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' to /etc/network/interfaces
[04:26] <bbrazil> Surfer: then ifup eth0
[04:26] <Surfer> I have got ASUS laptop A6RP-AP002
[04:26] <chaizzilla> you need ISILON, kenny
[04:26] <Kennie> ISILON? oO
[04:27] <IseeIsee> frying_fish I'm happy to hear that, but response has been bad, they say even Xubuntu won't run good on my p2 233 Mhz 96mb 10 gb
[04:27] <Surfer> ifup doesn't work - it is trying to use dhclient and this is not getting any info from dhcp server.. :/
[04:27] <freddyubuntu> somebody plz....pay attention to me
[04:27] <bbrazil> Surfer: is the link light on on your card?
[04:27] <freddyubuntu> i have no sound in dapper now
[04:27] <freddyubuntu> i play music..but no sound
[04:27] <chaizzilla> where's the dhcp server
[04:27] <frying_fish> well, if you want X use something like fluxbox as the vm
[04:27] <frying_fish> *wm
[04:27] <ks1> you should probably turn on your speakers
[04:27] <chaizzilla> freddy what changed?
[04:27] <frying_fish> its all about picking something that uses the least resources.
[04:28] <ks1> first check alsamixer
[04:28] <freddyubuntu> i havent changed anything
[04:28] <frying_fish> you can run anything really, but its how slow you want to cope with.
[04:28] <ks1> see if it is muted.
[04:28] <ks1> lsmod to see if the sound module is loaded...
[04:28] <Surfer> is ip address which I can see in windows but don't know where to set it in ubuntu... it's local address (is it in modem?)
[04:28] <Surfer> and one more thing...
[04:28] <chaizzilla> fluxbox is nice but not overly big?
[04:28] <freddyubuntu> i had this sound problem before but i used to solve it by restart
[04:28] <chaizzilla> ifconfig?
[04:28] <freddyubuntu> now restart wont work
[04:29] <bbrazil> Surfer: what's the windows ip address?
[04:29] <chaizzilla> i don't like information processing to be slow for the gui, gui is evil enough without being slow
[04:29] <jonass> how can i change the mousewhell click function in firefox?
[04:29] <IseeIsee> frying_fish I want do to java development, will fluxbox be able to handle jdk ?
[04:29] <Corporal_Dirge> Arg, where did it go? xxtightvncviewer is nowhere to be found.
[04:29] <chaizzilla> nooo
[04:29] <erUSUL> Surfer: sudo dhclient eth0 ans see if it spits any meaningfull error msg
[04:29] <chaizzilla> maybe there's only one x
[04:29] <freddyubuntu> help me...
[04:30] <freddyubuntu> I hvve no sound in ubuntu
[04:30] <freddyubuntu> i didnt change anything
[04:30] <ks1> i just told you what to check
[04:30] <Surfer> when I set eth0 to use dhcp I eth0 seems to not work... I even can't ping my modem, which has own tech-websites... when I set static IP I can ping modem and even connest with my modem's IP and see those websites... but net is not working :/
[04:30] <chaizzilla> freddt did you see the responses?
[04:30] <jpjacobs> freddyubuntu, did you unmute the apropriate channels?
[04:30] <snoops> IseeIsee odd choice of window managers for that kind of development.. but yes it'll handle it
[04:30] <buzzed_> any good wifi tools , using wifi-radar,
[04:30] <freddyubuntu> i unmated everything
[04:30] <ks1> Did you turn up the volume...
[04:30] <freddyubuntu> ks1 , I dont undrestand what u said
[04:30] <freddyubuntu> yeah I did
[04:30] <bbrazil> Surfer: hmm, sounds like you were missing a default root - or didn't have DNS setup
[04:30] <ks1> in a terminal, alsamixer, check the volume levels
[04:30] <bbrazil> Surfer: *route
[04:31] <Gassed> Is anybody here good with VMWare Server?
[04:31] <buzzed_> i am unable to aquire an ip for some networks
[04:31] <chaizzilla> man, *now* i wouldn't mind a remote support client....
[04:31] <ks1> make sure there is no M underneath. Mainly for Master and PCM.
[04:31] <buzzed_> where XP and Mac users autoconnect
[04:31] <aimaz> if i install xubuntu-desktop will my gnome desktop be affected?
[04:31] <bbrazil> aimaz: no
[04:31] <Surfer> as I said dhclient can't set dhcp info... it's trying to do something but every time result is same - dhcpoffers or something lik that
[04:31] <aimaz> cool
[04:31] <aimaz> ty
[04:31] <freddyubuntu> ks1 i did it
[04:31] <ks1> try sound again ?
[04:31] <freddyubuntu> no help
[04:32] <buzzed_> no?
[04:32] <bbrazil> Surfer: let's go beck to the static case - can you set it up like that again?
[04:32] <chaizzilla> wait i don
[04:32] <jkanter> Surfer:what network card?
[04:32] <Surfer> i have dns set and route is goot I think
[04:32] <bbrazil> jkanter: 8139
[04:32] <chaizzilla> t understand what gassed just asked?
[04:32] <jkanter> 8139
[04:32] <Gassed> chaizzilla: ?
[04:32] <Surfer> integrated with realtek chipset 8139/8139c/8139c+
[04:32] <chaizzilla> you're installing xubunto on a gnome-something?
[04:32] <tenco> someone trying garnome 2.15.4 here?
[04:32] <bbrazil> Surfer: /etc/resolv.conf  had server as you're modem?
[04:32] <freddyubuntu>  I still have no sound
[04:32] <chaizzilla> this is where i totally stop grokking gui
[04:32] <Gassed> chaizzilla: I just dont know how to make VMWare server pretend to have a SoundBlaster card
[04:33] <chaizzilla> oh oh oh you mean two different virtual machines
[04:33] <Surfer> bbrazil: I can set static IP but net is not working too :/
[04:33] <bbrazil> Surfer: but you can ping the modem?
[04:33] <Surfer> yes - only modem
[04:33] <chaizzilla> wjat
[04:33] <chaizzilla> !garnome
[04:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about garnome - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:34] <bbrazil> Surfer: ping 134.226.83.42 - doest that work?
[04:34] <LjL> penguin42: you can use the alternate cd. that comes with the old, question-asking, text-mode installer
[04:34] <penguin42> LjL: But there is no way of asking the standard disc to do that?
[04:35] <freddyubuntu> ok so nobody can fix my problem?
[04:35] <LjL> penguin42: i don't think so
[04:35] <Surfer> bbrazil: propably won't work... but i'll check - just have to unplug this pc and plug laptop :P wait moment, brb
[04:35] <ks1> you can i beleive. atleast on a dvd
[04:35] <ks1> freddyubuntu, did it work before ?
[04:35] <freddyubuntu> yeah
[04:35] <freddyubuntu> ks1 - yea sure !
[04:35] <freddyubuntu> it stopped wroking just today
[04:35] <ks1> make sure your module is loaded.
[04:35] <freddyubuntu> and I dint change anything
[04:35] <ks1> what did you do today?
[04:35] <freddyubuntu> what is module?
[04:35] <penguin42> LjL: Hmm - a bit restrictive for people woh pick up the precut CDs and hit problems; it's not as if we can talk them through turning something off or avoiding installing something
[04:35] <chaizzilla> what
[04:36] <freddyubuntu> ks1 what is module?
[04:36] <chaizzilla> does your dvd play in, something you pop into the machine?
[04:36] <ks1> lsmod, and look for your soundcard chipset
[04:36] <freddyubuntu> yeah it is loaded
[04:36] <headache> hey any hackers here... i need www.mavishare.com 's php code. simple. i pay 5,000$ if youre successful - that is all, msg me ill be on freenode all day
[04:37] <freddyubuntu> ks1 I can see its model name in Volime change
[04:37] <tharabar> hi
[04:37] <Enverex> erm, my PCs drives are on an nForce4 RAID0. What is the easiest way to install Ubuntu?
[04:37] <freddyubuntu> if it is not loaded , how I can load it
[04:37] <LjL> penguin42: i personally think the alternate cd should have continued to be the main cd in Dapper, until the Ubiquity installer was more developed. but right now it's the way it is
[04:37] <penguin42> LjL: Nod, or at least leave the alternate installer on the main CD as a fall back
[04:37] <chaizzilla> what's the old installer called?
[04:38] <n2ob> hey, is konqueror able to browse smb shares out of the box?
[04:38] <freddyubuntu> k bye
[04:38] <jonass> i installed gmail notifier. can sb. tell me where to find the installed binary (want to start it automatically) ?
[04:38] <chaizzilla> hey how hard would it be for me to modify one of those cds and burn one with the old installer?
[04:38] <chaizzilla> what's the name of your installed binary?
[04:39] <jonass> gmail notifier ;)
[04:39] <jonass> i do not know th ename
[04:39] <penguin42> chaizzilla: I think it is that you just download the 'alternate' cd instead
[04:39] <chaizzilla> maybe run a find on gmail
[04:39] <jonass> but a shortcut is to find in the system menu
[04:39] <chaizzilla> oh!
[04:39] <chaizzilla> ok :)
[04:39] <[1] Surfer> bbrazil: tried to ping that IP but it would take infinity to get response :/
[04:39] <chaizzilla> you see the shortcut?
[04:39] <jrib> jonass: /usr/bin/gmail-notify
[04:40] <chaizzilla> !find
[04:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about find - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:40] <chaizzilla> what?
[04:40] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: 1. chage you nick to start with a letter. 2 - what was the exact message?
[04:40] <LjL> penguin42: that would have been problematic i think, as the structures of the live and install CDs are quite different
[04:40] <Enverex> What is the difference between Desktop and Alternate?
[04:41] <jonass> thank you jrib
[04:41] <penguin42> LjL: Ah - so it's not just a different installer but the new installer actualyl firtles the debs from the stuff unpacked on the live?
[04:41] <jrib> jonass: np, an easy way to find that info is: dpkg -L package_name | grep bin
[04:41] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: in particular was it 'no route to host' or 'no response' (or similar)
[04:42] <frogzoo> Surfer: is this an asrock board? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/24801
[04:42] <[1] Surfer> bbrazil: nick will change automatically when my old nick expire :) I'm now it 2 people :P ||| the exact message didn't apperar but it would be something like "too long time" I had to press ctrl+c because it was loading and loading...
[04:42] <LoneShadow> Has anyone made thier rootfs read only ?
[04:43] <[1] Surfer> frogzoo: it's laptop... with unfortunatelly ati chipset... propably it's not asrock board :P
[04:43] <penguin42> LoneShadow: There was someone here a few minutes ago who had that - we didn't figure out why; what are you seeing?
[04:43] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: typing a [ is hard
[04:43] <phaedrus44> anyone have experience with shn shorten audio and ubuntu?
[04:43] <LoneShadow> shoot, I missed him a heh  :D
[04:43] <LoneShadow> I am trying to boot with a read only nfs image
[04:43] <LjL> penguin42: that's my understanding, yep
[04:43] <Enverex> This is odd.. terminal and GAIM wont start..
[04:44] <chaizzilla> bbrazil are you using a feature in irssi or something that makes you need to type the [1] ?
[04:44] <penguin42> LoneShadow: Oh - opposite problem! His root went ro without him asking :-)
[04:44] <erUSUL> !alternate > Enverex
[04:44] <bbrazil> chaizzilla: tab completion, I have to type the first part of the name
[04:44] <chaizzilla> ah....
[04:44] <LoneShadow> so its a nfs diskless client. The problem is, /dev needs to be writeable
[04:44] <Enverex> My PCs drives are on an nForce4 RAID0. What is the easiest way to install Ubuntu? Is it even possible?
[04:44] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: does 'ip route' show the modem as the default route?
[04:44] <penguin42> LoneShadow: Mount a ram disc/shmfs over /dev - actually I thought that was what udev always did?
[04:45] <[1] Surfer> bbrazil call me Surfer not [1] Surfer...
[04:45] <[1] Surfer> both nicks are mine :P
[04:45] <chaizzilla>  /nick Surfer1
[04:45] <jonass> how can i change the mousewheel click function in firefox?
[04:45] <erUSUL> !raid > Enverex
[04:45] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: but will that hit your clietn's hilighting code?
[04:45] <penguin42> LoneShadow: Yeh, you should find udev is a tmpfs mounted over /dev
[04:45] <pepsi> [1] Surfer, but your nick is [1] Surfer, not Surfer :P
[04:45] <chaizzilla> client's highlighting code?
[04:46] <bbrazil> chaizzilla: when someoen types 'bbrazil' their nick is hilighted on my screen
[04:46] <chaizzilla> oo oo
[04:46] <chaizzilla> oh i see
[04:46] <chaizzilla> like that
[04:46] <bbrazil> chaizzilla: these are all standard irssi features
[04:46] <[1] Surfer> ok but it's because I unpluged internet and the old nick is still here... but i'm now connected 2nd time as [1] Surfer
[04:46] <eka> hi all
[04:46] <chaizzilla> oh it's actually working even right now
[04:46] <sri_> Hi! I am downloading a movie by torrent;But in that there is an error saying that "Data on disk correpted...Might be using two processes.."Is there any problem with it?Downloading is working properly......
[04:46] <pepsi> [1] Surfer, /ns ghost Surfer <password>
[04:46] <[1] Surfer> I'm using windows now and HydraIRC which has no higlight :/
[04:46] <pepsi> er /msg nickserv if you cant use /ns
[04:46] <chaizzilla> go into the nic config and kill the old nick?
[04:47] <Dr4g> [1] Surfer: this is an ubuntu channel - not windows or hydrairc
[04:47] <eka> anyone knows why my firestarter firewall is reporting an active connection to the port 65000 named Stacheldraht?
[04:47] <bbrazil> Dr4g: this is one of those network problems where he's working off windows to solve an ubuntu problem
[04:47] <erUSUL> eka: you have a trojan horse
[04:47] <chaizzilla> is Dr4g short for Draga?
[04:47] <Dr4g> bbrazil: okay sorry ;)
[04:47] <Dr4g> chaizzilla: no it isnt :)
[04:47] <eka> erUSUL, so how can i get it out
[04:47] <chaizzilla> okie
[04:48] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: I assume that you were able to ping the modem?
[04:48] <erUSUL> eka: sorry but i do not know... :(
[04:48] <[1] Surfer> I know it's ubuntu channel... I would like to be here using ubuntu but I can't and i'm looking for help...
[04:48] <lassegs> hi guys. im  trying out the new NTFS driver, NTFS-3g, and im getting this error at mount: Windows did not shut down properly. Try to mount volume in windows, shut down and try again. Some help?
[04:48] <eka> erUSUL, i try chkrootkit but didnt report anything
[04:48] <[1] Surfer> bbrazil yes
[04:48] <izhirahider> This is more an apt-question, but how can I tell a repository to only update "package-X" and not everything else, when I apt-get update?
[04:48] <chaizzilla> why can't you change your nick so there's no [ at the front?
[04:48] <sri_> [1] Surfer, Hi! I am downloading a movie by torrent;But in that there is an error saying that "Data on disk correpted...Might be using two processes.."Is there any problem with it?Downloading is working properly......
[04:48] <frogzoo> Surfer: can you get an ip with dhclient?
[04:49] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: and your routing table checks out?
[04:49] <erUSUL> eka: http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/xfdb/3757
[04:49] <[1] Surfer> route -n shows I think good info
[04:49] <eka> erUSUL, checking
[04:49] <frogzoo> Surfer: there does seem to be an issue with that chipset: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211388&highlight=8139+dapper
[04:49] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: is 0/0 going to your modem?
[04:49] <[1] Surfer> I can't get IP with dhclient nor with dhcpcd
[04:49] <chaizzilla> where does a traceroute to google die?
[04:50] <amortvigil> how can i se how much fps i have?
[04:50] <[1] Surfer> dhcpcd even deactivate my card every time i want to use it :/
[04:50] <amortvigil> with my video card?
[04:50] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: if you're using static, kill any dhcpclients you have running
[04:50] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: they can mess things up
[04:50] <sri_> [1] Surfer, Hi! I am downloading a movie by torrent;But in that there is an error saying that "Data on disk correpted...Might be using two processes.."Is there any problem with it?Downloading is working properly......
[04:51] <lassegs> amortvigil: glxgears
[04:51] <sri_> frogzoo,  Hi! I am downloading a movie by torrent;But in that there is an error saying that "Data on disk correpted...Might be using two processes.."Is there any problem with it?Downloading is working properly......
[04:51] <chaizzilla> uh oh is sri_ broken?
[04:51] <erUSUL> !repeat > sri_
[04:51] <frogzoo> sri_: ask the chan :)
[04:52] <[1] Surfer> which processes should I kill?
[04:52] <chaizzilla> maybe we should set our nicks to reflect the particular problem we are working on
[04:52] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: pkill dhcpcd
[04:53] <bbrazil> [1] Surfer: I'm going to have to head off now. Try again with out dhcp stuff running. You might want to check that your router doesn't have any weird access controls
[04:53] <samuel> hello, i need help. I have a printer hp laserjet 1020. I can't print with it. She's recognized but it seems to have a problem with the driver
[04:54] <eka> erUSUL, it 's strange... cause when i follow the instructions to find it... i found that killing azureus bittorrent program closed that connection...
[04:54] <abo> I'm using Ubuntu Live CD 5.10, how can I burn a cd?
[04:54] <Surfer> I tried...
[04:54] <frogzoo> abo: you can only if you have a 2nd cd drive
[04:54] <eka> erUSUL, i did lsof | grep 65000 and found java--- so i killed azureus
[04:54] <ks1> abo: only possible way is if you have a second drive
[04:54] <sri_> chaizzilla, no
[04:54] <Surfer> the wors thing is that net on gentoo works
[04:55] <Surfer> but on ubuntu doesn't
[04:55] <erUSUL> eka: well where did you dl the java binaries or azureus?
[04:55] <eka> erUSUL, from azureus home page
[04:55] <Dave|id> any crontab gurus in the house
[04:55] <eka> erUSUL, the java binaries from sun
[04:56] <george_looney> Dave|id: what is your question,
[04:56] <lassegs> noone has tryed out the new ntfs drivers here?
[04:56] <Surfer> can anybody say me why dhcp doesn't allow me to connest with local IP?
[04:56] <Dave|id> between the hours of 1am and 6am, i want to run a script every minute.. should this not work > */1 1,2,3,4,5 * * * /etc/nightcam.sh >/dev/null 2>&1
[04:56] <Enverex> Has anyone here installed Ubuntu on an nForce4 RAID?
[04:57] <frogzoo> sri_: this is your same chipset: it's a bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/24801
[04:57] <frogzoo> Surfer: this is your same chipset: it's a bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/24801
[04:57] <frogzoo> soz sri_
[04:57] <narfmaster> Dave|id, you can stick a sleep 60 in your script
[04:58] <SanketMedhi> hello
[04:58] <erUSUL> eka: i recomend using the sun java version of the repos... you can ask in azureus mailing list or in java ones to see if someone has the same problem
[04:58] <george_looney> Dave|id: narfmaster is right
[04:58] <sri_> frogzoo, any problem with this?
[04:58] <eka> erUSUL, sorry is from repository
[04:58] <eka> erUSUL, read this please http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-125157.html
[04:58] <eka> erUSUL, and tell me what you think
[04:58] <SanketMedhi> can someone tell me a good tool for mass resize of images? I want to scale all images in a directory to a resolution say 800x640 for use in my web gallery.
[04:59] <george_looney> SanketMedhi: use convert from the ImageMagick tools
[04:59] <whyameye> SanketMedhi: try convert. I think it's part of imageMagick.
[04:59] <Dave|id> hrm, a sleep you say, but why would i have to stick a sleep in? shouldn't that run it every minute between those hours
[04:59] <SanketMedhi> how?
[04:59] <SanketMedhi> ok convert is a cmd?
[04:59] <whyameye> SanketMedhi: yes.
[04:59] <bbrazil> Surfer: for i in *; do convert -size 640x480 "$1" "$i"; done
[04:59] <SanketMedhi> ok
[04:59] <bbrazil> SanketMedhi: ^
[04:59] <SanketMedhi> bbrazil: awesome :)
[04:59] <bbrazil> SanketMedhi: not perfect though
[05:00] <SanketMedhi> bbrazil: ok I will try it
[05:00] <void^> eka: outgoing connection, or incoming connection?
[05:00] <bbrazil> SanketMedhi: $1 should be $i
[05:00] <SanketMedhi> ok fine
[05:00] <eka> void^, doesn say
[05:00] <george_looney> Dave|id: it should work
[05:00] <bbrazil> SanketMedhi: and that'll replace the existing file
[05:00] <SanketMedhi> bbrazil: I have a backup
[05:00] <SanketMedhi> thanks
[05:00] <void^> eka: well that doesn't help.
[05:01] <IrUuS> HELLO
[05:01] <eka> void^, wait please
[05:01] <eka> void^, checking
[05:01] <george_looney> yo IrUuS
[05:01] <eka> void^, i started azureus again
[05:01] <void^> eka: you can check with `netstat -a -l -n -p | grep 65000` if you have any connections using that port right now.
[05:02] <IrUuS> How are you today?
[05:02] <eka> void^, no one using
[05:02] <george_looney> very good
[05:02] <eka> void^, seems it was azureus and firestarter looks at the first description for that port
[05:02] <void^> eka: well then, i daresay there's a bittorrent peer using port 65000 on his end.
[05:03] <eka> void^, seems to
[05:03] <IrUuS> How old  are you?
[05:03] <eka> void^, did you read the link i send?
[05:03] <void^> eka: that's the simple simple thing as windows firewalls reporting azureus was trying to send mail when a peer uses port 25.
[05:03] <Dave|id> george_looney: thanks, i'll load it up
[05:03] <eka> void^, ok
[05:03] <Dave|id> narfmaster: thanks also for your input
[05:03] <eka> void^, thanks
[05:03] <george_looney> IrUuS: 54
[05:04] <narfmaster> Dave|id, no problemo
[05:04] <frogzoo> IrUuS: this isn't a general chat chan - it's a support channel
[05:04] <IrUuS> jajaja i'm 13
[05:04] <narfmaster> i just use sleep for all my scripts
[05:04] <IrUuS> Where are you from?
[05:04] <sri_> can any one tell the cmd to know the size and properties of a folder
[05:05] <LjL> sri_: "ls -l". for the size including all contained files, "du"
[05:05] <george_looney> IrUuS: Mogadishu
[05:05] <ks1> du -h
[05:05] <sri_> LjL, ya
[05:05] <SanketMedhi> bbrazil: hey your cmd is not working
[05:05] <sri_> ks1, ys
[05:05] <george_looney> SanketMedhi: what does it say?
[05:06] <SanketMedhi> bbrazil: the images are not getting resized
[05:06] <IrUuS> where is that place?
[05:06] <ks1> du -hs :P
[05:06] <SanketMedhi> it works, but it doesn't resize
[05:06] <george_looney> Somalia
[05:06] <IrUuS> ohh I'm from argentina
[05:06] <george_looney> SanketMedhi: man convert
[05:07] <Taza> I seem to have constant problems.
[05:07] <frogzoo> Taza: can you be specific?
[05:07] <Taza> Xfce's display settings tool in Xubuntu crashes the system.
[05:07] <Enverex> Has anyone here installed Ubuntu on an nForce4 RAID? Or any other onboard software RAID?
[05:07] <Taza> And it's using 800x600 by default instead of 1024x768
[05:08] <sri_> ks1, ya but it is giving the starting address of the folder not size
[05:08] <ks1> huh ?
[05:08] <Enverex> Taza, Make sure the modes are all set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:08] <IrUuS> HELOW
[05:08] <kazukisan> okay i need a good bittorrent client for ubuntu azureus is not working at all right now ?
[05:08] <ks1> sri_,
[05:08] <ks1> go in the folder
[05:08] <ks1> du -hs
[05:08] <Taza> Enverex: I've used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:08] <frogzoo> Taza: this after a clean install?
[05:08] <SanketMedhi> george_looney: never mind, I used gthumb to resize them, thanks anyways
[05:08] <narfmaster> kazukisan, i use utorrent in Wine
[05:08] <Taza> frogzoo: Somewhat
[05:08] <sri_> ks1, ok 1m
[05:08] <frogzoo> Taza: you md5sum the install cd?
[05:08] <ks1> or do, dh -hs /path/to/folder/you/want/to/size
[05:08] <Taza> frogzoo: I had a problem with the mga driver so used vesa, and that's when the problems appeared.
[05:09] <ks1> [kenneth@fivethirteen ~] $ du -hs /home/kenneth/
[05:09] <ks1> 324M    /home/kenneth/
[05:09] <Taza> frogzoo: It WORKED, but when I switched to vesa it broke
[05:09] <george_looney> kazukisan: search for bittirrent in synaptic
[05:09] <Enverex> Taza: That may still not work, check that file I said about
[05:10] <Taza> My god do I hate manually editing xorg.conf
[05:10] <frogzoo> kazukisan: azureus should be trouble free - you install sun's jre?
[05:10] <frogzoo> !azureus > kazukisan
[05:11] <Taza> All right in xorg.conf
[05:11] <kazukisan> yea but when i start it the F'n pop up boxes NEVER disapear and the actuall program never apears
[05:11] <void^> kazukisan: activate sun's jre and use http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[05:12] <Taza> Enverex, frogzoo: xorg.conf was created by automatic configuration and is correct
[05:12] <kazukisan> never mind azureus i hated in the first place and i just got bit tornado to work so im good
[05:12] <sri_> ks1, Hi!I have connected a hard disk to my system in it i have some unwanted files;Then how to remove all files in ALLFOLDERS of same extention....?I tried rm *.extention ;Is there any process?
[05:12] <Taza> It's more of a problem with the Xfce4 resolution setting tool, which appears utterly broken.
[05:13] <ks1> sri_, man rm
[05:13] <ks1> take a look at -r
[05:13] <sri_> ks1, thanks..
[05:13] <eigenlambda> sri_: find . -name "*.extension" -print | xargs rm
[05:13] <Taza> I suppose #xubuntu would be a better place to ask
[05:14] <ks1> that works also :)
[05:14] <eigenlambda> whatever.  xrandr -s # for setting resolution
[05:14] <sri_> eigenlambda, i did not get u ;can u explain it plzz
[05:15] <h4v0k> does anyone have the link to how to set up dual boot in windows xp
[05:15] <eigenlambda> ok, so find is a command that takes all the pathnames starting with a certain directory
[05:15] <eigenlambda> and -print makes it print them all
[05:15] <eigenlambda> and -name pattern makes it take only the ones that match the pattern
[05:15] <eigenlambda> (glob pattern, not regex pattern)
[05:16] <wheels3572> I was in here earlier and was asking how to get to apps>metacity>global keybindings.  I dont see metacity anywhere
[05:16] <digitalhav0c> does anyone know how i can keep wine from updating. I installed from source with the wow patch but it keeps showing up in synaptic as a pkg that needs to be updated?
[05:16] <sri_> eigenlambda, can u explain it?
[05:16] <h4v0k> how to set up dual boot plz
[05:16] <eigenlambda> and then you take the list of pathnames from find and pipe them through xargs, which takes its stdin and puts it on the command line of whatever program you named
[05:17] <wheels3572> h4v0k:  What are you trying to dual boot?
[05:17] <eigenlambda> which is rm here, the program that deletes things
[05:17] <Taza> Does anyone know how I could force the xfce4 display setting panel to fix itself or a configuration file for it, or for Xfce4 res?
[05:17] <h4v0k> wheels3572, my friend wants to install ubuntu but wants to keep his win XP so how do i set it up so i can boot into either OS
[05:18] <wheels3572> h4v0k:  Ok that's gonna be easy as I just did this myself.  Has he the CD for Ubuntu for starters?
[05:18] <Taza> h4v0k: You can't. Ubuntu always eats windows away. And if you install windows afterwards, you can't boot into Ubuntu anymore... oh wait, that's Mandrake.
[05:19] <wheels3572> Taza:  You can cuz I have done it
[05:19] <Taza> wheels3572: Do read what I said again. :p
[05:19] <george_looney> h4v0k: is ther free space available on the HD for Ubuntu?
[05:19] <orbin> same here.  mandrake was my first distro
[05:19] <h4v0k> wheels3572, yes i have the breezy badger CD
[05:19] <h4v0k> george_looney, yup
[05:20] <h4v0k> knoppix was my first:-D
[05:20] <Taza> h4v0k: Is the free space unpartitioned?
[05:20] <wheels3572> h4v0k:  You do know there is the latest distro of Ubuntu out called Dapper Drake?
[05:20] <[Ex0r] > man, something is seriously wrong with courier
[05:20] <Taza> h4v0k: If not, do defragment before doing anything
[05:20] <wheels3572> Taza:  Why not just use a program like Partition Magic and make a separate Partition
[05:21] <wheels3572> Taza:  and have h4 install to that
[05:21] <Taza> wheels3572: How do I use brain?
[05:21] <Taza> wheels3572: 1) Type correctly. 2) The ubuntu partitioner can IIRC do that.
[05:21] <mrburton> could someone help me with an install question please?
[05:21] <Taza> wheels3572: No need for expensive and clumsy commercial software like Partition Magic in any case.
[05:22] <wheels3572> Taza:  Ok I will let you take over then as I am new to this but I am just explaining from what I have done personally and know
[05:22] <facugaich> mrburton: just ask, someone may know the answer
[05:22] <Taza> mrburton: This goes to almost every help channel - ask, don't ask to ask. :p
[05:22] <mrburton> ok I'm trying to follow a post about mounting NTFS file system with read/write
[05:23] <Xtremer> hey
[05:23] <mrburton> and it tells me I need Fuse
[05:23] <facugaich> how do you update to dapper? dist-upgrade?
[05:23] <ks1> mrburton, you do need fuse for ntfs-3g
[05:23] <mrburton> I downloaded fuse in a tarball file
[05:23] <Xtremer> I have a quick question. How do I get permission to edit files in my filesystem?
[05:23] <h4v0k> Taza  yeah the unused portion of the partition needs defraggging but after that is there a thread or something so i can do this and be able to boot into either kernel
[05:23] <toka5505> hello. i am using xubuntu running quite well in vmware. the only problem i have is with the mouse-pointer handling. when running vmware-toolbox, the mouse switches automatically to the host operating system, when leaving the xubuntu window. when vmware-toolbox is not running, the mouse-pointer is always bound to the xubuntu-desktop. any ideas ?
[05:23] <mrburton> and the install file is kinda cryptic
[05:23] <mrburton> where should I put it to run ./configure
[05:23] <orbin> facugaich: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[05:24] <Dr4g> bbl
[05:24] <Taza> h4v0k: Honestly, when you're asking something like that... defrag, BACKUP, get latest Ubuntu, and ask someone more experienced to help you on the spot.
[05:24] <haffe> Hello.
[05:24] <Taza> h4v0k: There's a very real chance of wiping your hdd - I should know, I've managed to do it.
[05:24] <h4v0k> k
[05:24] <vbgunz> I just exported something... How can I clear it or overwrite it?
[05:24] <h4v0k> Taza we did too one time before and that sux
[05:24] <tuxtux> ciao at all
[05:24] <facugaich> h4v0k: What's the problem? I joined kinda late
[05:25] <Xtremer>  I have a quick question. How do I get permission to edit files in my filesystem?
[05:25] <Taza> facugaich: He has a windows partition and he wants to install Ubuntu using dualboot.
[05:25] <Vardis> How can i upgrade x server?
[05:25] <offroadgeek> does dapper create a default user/pass on a new install?
[05:25] <facugaich> Taza: Well, that's what I did with breezy
[05:25] <h4v0k> and maybe someone knows the name of the server so i can float the partitions and operate both of them
[05:25] <orbin> h4v0k: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo ... outdated but still relevant
[05:26] <Taza> facugaich: However, I wouldn't really suggest that to an inexperienced user - seeing resizing partitions isn't the easiest trick to do, and it's known to have wiped HDD's
[05:26] <george_looney> h4v0k: Well, I installed Dapper and it recognised my WinXP partition ...
[05:26] <facugaich> h4v0k: NTFS?
[05:26] <mrburton> where should I put the fuse files to run ./configure one them?
[05:26] <george_looney> h4v0k: ... it didn't touch it and I dualboot now
[05:26] <narfmaster> !ntfs
[05:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:27] <narfmaster> !fuse
[05:27] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:27] <Xtremer> I have a quick question. How do I get permission to edit files in my filesystem?
[05:28] <narfmaster> mrburton, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse <-- use this
[05:28] <Taza> Can anyone help me with my "wheretheheck do I configure Xfce4 settings toolpanel from?"-question?
[05:28] <mrburton> thank you
[05:28] <roler> Is there a program I acn use to sync with my pocket pc?
[05:28] <Xtremer> I just want to edit my sources.list
[05:28] <ks1> Xtremer, sudo
[05:28] <orbin> Taza: perhaps #xfce would be better
[05:28] <Taza> orbin: Thanks. I hate Freenode.
[05:28] <Xtremer> ks1: Any way to do it outside of terminal?
[05:29] <frogzoo> !permissions > Xtremer
[05:29] <ks1> you could use gksudo
[05:29] <narfmaster> Xtremer, you could use Synaptic or Software Properties
[05:29] <guest2343> I wanna configure proxy 4 evolution and vnc  how do i do it?
[05:31] <mneisen> Hi, does anyone know how to enable quotas in postfix without(!) recompiling the sources? Is it possible with the standard Dapper package?
[05:32] <Xtremer> hmm.. thanks frogzoo I'll check those links out.. ks1, I'll look into that too. narfmaster, I'm not sure how I'd do that. I want to be able to edit files in etc/apt/ and such
[05:32] <[Ex0r] > mneisen- you have to compile postfix with quota support
[05:32] <[Ex0r] > frogzoo- you have any experience with courier ?
[05:32] <roler> Is there a program I acn use to sync with my pocket pc?
[05:33] <mneisen> [Ex0r] : oh my ... why isn't it in the standard package? Per-user mailbox quotas aren't *that* unusual ...
[05:33] <wheels3572> How do I access apps>Metacity via cli?
[05:33] <mneisen> [Ex0r] : Anyways: thanks.
[05:33] <Th0rndike> fuck
[05:33] <[Ex0r] > !language
[05:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:34] <th0rndike> [Ex0r] ,
[05:34] <th0rndike> sry
[05:34] <mneisen> [Ex0r] : what do I need to recompile? Is there a way to install the complete toolchain (compiler, ...)?
[05:34] <frogzoo> roler: synce-serial - see the wiki for details, it's not very reliable
[05:34] <george_looney> mneisen: apt-get install build-essential
[05:34] <Mewshi> aanyone know if the old dexdrive ps1 peripheral is supported on linux?
[05:35] <roler> frogzoo, ;thanks:)
[05:35] <mneisen> george_looney: thanks.
[05:36] <george_looney> mneisen: you are welcome
[05:36] <facugaich> what's the size of dapper?
[05:37] <narfmaster> facugaich, about 700 MBs
[05:37] <[Ex0r] > I can get courier installed and running, but it won't sync with postfix to retrieve mail
[05:37] <frogzoo> facugaich: my /usr is around 10gigs atm
[05:38] <narfmaster> the entire main repo for one arch is about 3 GBs
[05:38] <frogzoo> narfmaster: + universe + multiverse...
[05:38] <narfmaster> lol too big for me
[05:38] <frogzoo> & then uncompress o.O
[05:38] <mazurskie> !blender > mazurskie
[05:39] <[Ex0r] > !blender
[05:39] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[05:39] <ompaul> narfmaster, ehh a tad small :-) if you include sources
[05:39] <cool_nick> i just migrated from M$ XP, Any suggestions on how to start off with ubuntu. . .
[05:39] <facugaich> but I meant slipstreamed
[05:39] <orbin> cool_nick: what do you want to do?
[05:39] <frogzoo> narfmaster: c'mon - disk is cheap at 50c/gig
[05:39] <george_looney> cool_nick: Just Do iT (TM)
[05:40] <frogzoo> !docs > cool_nick
[05:40] <webben1> source-o-matic doesn't mention a dapper backports repository ... does one exist yet?
[05:40] <ompaul> cool_nick, yes, one, click on System Help System Documentation - that will answer most questions - they are books you can get online at lulu.com
[05:40] <orbin> cool_nick: i suggest just playing around.  install a few apps, ge the feel of stuff.  you'll pick things up as you go
[05:40] <cool_nick> george_looney: firstly, i need a good firewall. .
[05:40] <usama> hi all
[05:40] <ompaul> cool_nick, in soft format
[05:40] <narfmaster> facugaich, what does an aircraft have to do with Dapper?
[05:40] <usama> has anyone use prelink?
[05:40] <frogzoo> !firestarter > cool_nick
[05:40] <cool_nick> george_looney: can you please tell more bout iptables. . .
[05:40] <frogzoo> usama: beware it breaks wine
[05:41] <facugaich> narfmaster, what does "slipstreamed" have to do with aircrafts?
[05:41] <facugaich> :P
[05:41] <usama> frogzoo: i dont use wine :)
[05:41] <woyceck> cool_nick: why do you need a firewall
[05:41] <george_looney> cool_nick: iptables is the command with which you specify firewall rules
[05:41] <usama> frogzoo: do you have used it?
[05:41] <facugaich> I meant what's the size of the download
[05:41] <narfmaster> facugaich, the download is about 700 MBs
[05:42] <george_looney> cool_nick: if you don't start up unnecessary server software, you are good to go without a firewall
[05:42] <ompaul> cool_nick, this is not windows - unless you go installing services then you won't need a firewall, if you do then you can use the point and click "firestarter"
[05:42] <facugaich> I have 7 gigs for Breezy right now, is that enough?
[05:42] <ompaul> cool_nick, services are web servers and the like
[05:42] <frogzoo> usama: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/prelink/+bug/31135
[05:42] <usama> has anyone used prelink?  sudo /etc/cron.daily/prelink   says that command not found!!
[05:42] <narfmaster> facugaich, that should be enough
[05:43] <cool_nick> george_looney: i have a ssh server running, and i need to firewall port 23. . .
[05:43] <facugaich> ok, thank you
[05:43] <cycom> facugaich: how much for swap?
[05:43] <woyceck> cool_nick: no, you have to configure ssh
[05:44] <george_looney> cool_nick: no need, I don't think you are running a telnet server(port 23)
[05:44] <qurps> !w32codecs
[05:44] <[Ex0r] > what is prelink ?
[05:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:44] <facugaich> cycom: you mean the swap partition created during install? My RAM is 192mb, you do the maths
[05:44] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : it's a way of preparing exes so they link quicker
[05:44] <george_looney> cool_nick: you can use "sudo netstat --inet -na"
[05:44] <cycom> 400 megs
[05:45] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : seems to still be having teething problems
[05:45] <cycom> facugaich: but do you have it allocated?
[05:45] <facugaich> cycom: what do you mean?
[05:45] <[Ex0r] > i see
[05:45] <cius> I need to start gnome-panel with the --sync option for a bug report, but when I kill gnome-panel it automatically restarts, is there any way to prevent this?
[05:45] <cycom> facugaich: do you have a 400 meg swap partition?
[05:45] <frogzoo> [Ex0r] : more importantly, it saves use of shared memory
[05:45] <facugaich> cycom: yeah, I think it's bigger
[05:45] <cool_nick> george_looney: can you suggest me  few books or online reference manuals to start with, i want to learn things using command line. . .
[05:46] <cycom> facugaich: ok. good.
[05:46] <manopulus> hello
[05:46] <manopulus>   opera: Depends: xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) but it is not installableor
[05:46] <manopulus>                   xlibs but it is not installable
[05:46] <facugaich> cycom: lemme see
[05:46] <cycom> facugaich: do you have enough ram?
[05:46] <frogzoo> cool_nick: read the pm from ubotu - the wiki docs are very good
[05:46] <amortvigil> can you edit your screen resolution in xorg.conf?
[05:46] <george_looney> cool_nick: atta boy :) you are my kinda guy
[05:46] <usama> frogzoo: ok, i have read that now can you help me :)
[05:46] <narfmaster> manopulus, which version of opera?
[05:47] <george_looney> cool_nick: I would suggest the Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible
[05:47] <usama> frogzoo: i dont care if my system breaks
[05:47] <facugaich> cycom: lol, it was smaller, 310 mb
[05:47] <manopulus> narfmaster: i just do apt-get install and it is dapper
[05:47] <frogzoo> cool_nick: also, get used to referring to man pages & 'man -k' is really useful
[05:47] <cool_nick> frogzoo: pm?
[05:47] <facugaich> cycom, I have 192, but I'm planning to upgrade to 368
[05:47] <frogzoo> !docs > cool_nick
[05:47] <frogzoo> cool_nick: did a window open from ubotu? read the link
[05:48] <cycom> facugaich: yeesh.  Yeah, upgrade to 368 asap.
[05:48] <cycom> facugaich: why not just spend the 40 bucks and get a 512?
[05:48] <frogzoo> usama: then 'sudo apt-get install prelink' : done
[05:48] <facugaich> cycom: pc133
[05:48] <usama> frogzoo: sudo: /etc/cron.daily/prelink: command not found
[05:48] <cycom> !docs > cycom
[05:48] <[Ex0r] > once I get some more money, i'm getting another 512 stick
[05:48] <[Ex0r] > than i'm going to setup two partitions, one for windows, one for linux
[05:48] <frogzoo> usama: ^^
[05:48] <usama> frogzoo: every thing else is working except this
[05:49] <[Ex0r] > Or just get a 10gig hdd for windows
[05:49] <usama> frogzoo: sorry!!
[05:49] <cool_nick> frogzoo: when did you start using gnu/linux?
[05:49] <cycom> facugaich: facugaich ick
[05:49] <george_looney> !docs
[05:49] <cius> Is there any way to restart gnome-panel with different options from within Gnome?
[05:49] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[05:49] <facugaich> lol, g2g now, see you later
[05:50] <brandon_> r there any printing experts here?
[05:50] <frogzoo> cool_nick: I'm a nix user from way back, moved to linux from SunOs originally
[05:50] <usama> frogzoo: can you tell me why its not working (cron.daily)
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > brandon_- !as
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > brandon_- !ask
[05:50] <frogzoo> usama: did you install prelink?
[05:50] <usama> frogzoo: yes
[05:51] <[Ex0r] > !ask < brandon
[05:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about ask < brandon - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:51] <rosa> help!!!!!
[05:51] <ompaul> brandon_, one persons daily bread knowledge is anothers expert - please ask your real question
[05:51] <rosa> !help
[05:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:51] <LoneShadow> how do I enable udev ?
[05:51] <rosa> !udev
[05:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about udev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:51] <rosa> !dapper
[05:51] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[05:51] <frogzoo> usama: ls -l /etc/cron.daily/prelink
[05:51] <rosa> !apt
[05:51] <ompaul> rosa, ask a real question and stop fishing the bot
[05:51] <shukhrat> !game
[05:51] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about game - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:51] <brandon_> my printer should work, but it doesn't
[05:51] <narfmaster> manopulus, sudo apt-get install libxmu6
[05:51] <rosa> sorry!
[05:52] <brandon_> i installed it correctly, it is using the correct driver, cups is running
[05:52] <usama> frogzoo: "ls: /etc/cron.daily/prelink: No such file or directory"
[05:52] <[Ex0r] > the bot should have a flood limit on it :)
[05:52] <manopulus> narfmaster: thank you i\ll try now
[05:52] <brandon_> the cable is connected, the printer is online
[05:52] <shukhrat> avia stimulator ? it was g119 ? pls help
[05:52] <george_looney> the bot should ask for $2 after 3 free questions /lol/
[05:52] <brandon_> the cups log says (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 1!
[05:53] <[Ex0r] > george_looney- no thanks, we aren't trying to be redhat
[05:53] <frogzoo> usama: this dapper? if so, remove prelink & reinstall - somehow you've deleted the file
[05:53] <brandon_> and /ioerror in --.outputpage--
[05:53] <brandon_> whenever i try to print anything
[05:53] <[Ex0r] > payed support for free software
[05:53] <cool_nick> george_looney: i just tried nmap, 22/tcp  open  ssh, 631/tcp open  ipp, are these insecure?
[05:53] <usama> frogzoo: yes i am on dapper, i have reinstalled prelink but still it can not find the file
[05:53] <LoneShadow> how does udev get used ? I see that udev package is installed by default by breezy
[05:54] <frogzoo> usama: that file is in the prelink pkg - if it doesn't exist on your system, it's cos you removed it
[05:54] <shukhrat> avia stimulator ? it was g119 ? pls help
[05:54] <ompaul> brandon_, if somone was to try and help you they would have to read about 6 lines of text, and you have not said you have "printer X" yet
[05:54] <frogzoo> LoneShadow: udev creates the devices files under /dev
[05:55] <usama> frogzoo: hmm, is there any way to recover it?
[05:55] <brandon_> ompaul: just tell me what info you want, and i'll supply it
[05:55] <LoneShadow> hmm
[05:55] <LoneShadow> and so /dev cant be a tmpfs folder then
[05:55] <frogzoo> usama: sudo dpkg --purge prelink ; sudo apt-get install prelink
[05:55] <MrFeetio> how do i add icons so i can use them as icons(i have xpm and png copies), do i have to put them in the pixmaps folder?
[05:55] <ompaul> brandon_, I don't know yet if I can help, what I would like to know is (A) did printing ever work and (B) what make and model have you got
[05:55] <LoneShadow> bah, I am back to square one, its hard to fix this read only rootfs =/
[05:55] <shukhrat> who khow site with games for Linux
[05:56] <brandon_> ompaul: it has worked in previous distros, and lexmark x73
[05:56] <narfmaster> MrFeetio, i always copy them to /usr/share/pixamps
[05:56] <frogzoo> MrFeetio: just d/l the gnome themes
[05:56] <frogzoo> !themes > MrFeetio
[05:56] <MrFeetio> how do i copy them there i dont have permision
[05:56] <narfmaster> MrFeetio, with sudo cp
[05:56] <guest2343> can aby one tell me how to congifure a http proxy  in ubuntu dapper.
[05:56] <ompaul> brandon_, did it ever with ubuntu, and now that I think of it you are using 6.06 yes?
[05:56] <MrFeetio> ok, thx
[05:57] <brandon_> ompaul: i have never tried it with ubuntu, and i'm using dapper
[05:57] <[Ex0r] > so than you've got 6.06
[05:57] <ompaul> brandon_, so what are you using xubuntu, kubuntu?
[05:57] <dan_kent> anyone konw how to set the recording source on a soundblaster audigy under ubuntu?
[05:57] <dan_kent> theres nothing saying record in the mixer
[05:57] <usama> frogzoo: yes, working now, thanks a lot, you are one cool guy/gal
[05:57] <usama> frogzoo: :D
[05:57] <dan_kent> and alsa mixer won't launch
[05:58] <brandon_> ompaul: kubuntu, but with ubuntu as well
[05:58] <guest2343> brandon_, did it ever with ubuntu, and now that I think of it you are using 6.06 yes?
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:56:53) MrFeetio: ok, thx
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:56:55) Rambodieschen left the room (quit: Success).
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:57:08) brandon_: ompaul: i have never tried it with ubuntu, and i'm using dapper
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:57:17) dan_kent [n=dan@82-34-166-154.cable.ubr02.maid.blueyonder.co.uk]  entered the room.
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:57:19) rubyat [n=rubyat@12-216-20-125.client.mchsi.com]  entered the room.
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:57:21) [Ex0r] : so than you've got 6.06
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:57:28) ompaul: brandon_, so what are you using xubuntu, kubuntu?
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:57:31) dan_kent: anyone konw how to set the recording source on a soundblaster audigy under ubuntu?
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:57:33) ***george_looney yawns
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:57:37) dan_kent: theres nothing saying record in the mixer
[05:58] <george_looney> guest2343: do you want a light weight proxy?
[05:58] <guest2343> (20:57:40) usama: frogzoo: yes, working now, thanks a lot, you are one cool guy/gal
[05:58] <ompaul> lilo, no worries - I had three typo failures before I got it working :)
[05:58] <olrrai> hi all
[05:59] <lilo> ompaul: I sort of held back hoping someone else would get it....I hate to interfere w/channel commands
[05:59] <gmoore> i'm going to be using my Ubuntu system as a server (web, database, etc) and as a PVR with my tvtuner and mythtv. in general: KDE, gnome, or xcfe? which is the least resource hungry but still has useful stuff?
[05:59] <reiki> What does Super key do? For example, my "Start" key on my keyboard says it's mapped to Super_L
[05:59] <ompaul> lilo, you see that kind of thing you have my 100% permission to do it in my name :)
[05:59] <george_looney> gmoore: XFCE
[06:00] <lilo> ompaul: hmmm, thanks....I'll have to figure out how that works, I think Seveas would have to approve
[06:00] <lilo> wait
[06:00] <usama> how can i register a nick?
[06:00] <lilo> yah, I'm not in the access list
[06:00] <lilo> usama: /msg nickserv help register
[06:00] <ompaul> ahh
[06:00] <lilo> usama: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup also provides a canonical nick setup
[06:01] <brandon_> ompaul: are you able to administer cups?
[06:01] <cool_nick> can anybody help me register my irc nick?
[06:02] <gmoore> george_looney: does xcfe have apps for things like watching tv (kde has kdetv/xawtv) and will it work with a windows x-server running?
[06:02] <ompaul> brandon_, that is not how you do it in ubuntu, do this, System Administration Printing and add a printer there we don't deal with cups - that thing works (for all the printers I have pointed it at)
[06:02] <fyrestrtr> is there a program that can edit the audio track of a .rm file? I need to filter out the background noise.
[06:03] <brandon_> mpaul: that's what i did
[06:03] <brandon_> but cups is the printing daemon
[06:03] <ompaul> brandon_, just a moment
[06:03] <jrib> !register > cool_nick
[06:03] <javiolo> does auto-apt works ? auto-apt run ./configure doesnt install dependeces
[06:03] <reiki> it's REALLY starting to get warm here...... ok well for HERE is't warm.... (western NY state)
[06:03] <ks1> ompaul, if you add a printer graphically, it is still using cups...
[06:04] <george_looney> gmoore: xawtv will work
[06:04] <ompaul> ks1, ack
[06:04] <Tomatix> gmoore, try out tvtime :)
[06:04] <ks1> you are just using a gtk2 interface to do it, not the cups web based configuration
[06:04] <knoppix> halo
[06:04] <ks1> hpijs contains the drivers..
[06:05] <george_looney> ola
[06:06] <ompaul> brandon_, okay it may be a usb issue as cups says it can deal with that printer, I suggest the following, turn off and unplug the printer from the PC remove the driver, turn off the PC plug the printer into the pc, start the PC and printer and then go through the setup again - it does work
[06:06] <ompaul> brandon_, when I have install issues they seem to go away with that manover
[06:06] <george_looney> !de
[06:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:06] <ompaul> brandon_, you can get into cups if you really want to but that involves all sorts of messing and costs lots of time
[06:06] <brandon_> ompaul: but can you run administration tasks using cups?
[06:06] <george_looney> !pt
[06:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:06] <usama> how can i change the password of my nick?
[06:07] <Tomatix> !no
[06:07] <cool_nick> how do i register irc nick. . . can anyone suggest something?
[06:07] <george_looney> !hi
[06:07] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[06:07] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:07] <linuzo> I apt-get installed flashplugin and now for some reason it is frozen at setting up flashplugin and it won't go anywhere.  I used control_c to close the session but for some reason when I goto do apt-get install something else it says run dpkg --configure -a but then it just goes back to setting up and frezes again.. help please..
[06:07] <Phoul> How do i install flash
[06:07] <narfmaster> cool_nick, /msg nickserv help
[06:07] <frogzoo> cool_nick: /msg nickserv help
[06:07] <Phoul> I tried the flash-nonefree what ever but the install froze
[06:07] <ompaul> brandon_, I don't since I moved to ubuntu - 11.5 years using OSS as my desktop o/s
[06:07] <frogzoo> narfmaster: snap
[06:07] <narfmaster> hehe
[06:07] <ZenobiaBE> Hello everyone. I installed network-manager, all dependencies and network-manager-gnome, but I can't find it anywhere to launch it. I tried network-manager in a terminal, command doesn't exist, and I can't find it anywhere in my menus.
[06:08] <Phoul> Can anyone tell me how to install flash
[06:08] <linuzo> haha Phoul I did the same thing..
[06:08] <jrib> Phoul: it froze during what step?
[06:08] <Phoul> ummm
[06:08] <Phoul> Man it was like 2 months ago
[06:08] <Phoul> umm
[06:08] <linuzo> Phoul download it from Adobe's website and install it from there..
[06:08] <Phoul> I tried
[06:08] <jrib> Phoul: ok, what does this say: which update-flashplugin
[06:08] <Phoul> I cant get it to download iut just goes nuts
[06:08] <Phoul> bash: update-flashplugin: command not found
[06:08] <linuzo> Phoul, download the tar.gz then tell it togoto firefox at /usr/lib/firefox/
[06:09] <linuzo> Phoul, use a download manager like Downloadthemall with firefox and pause and resume it will finish the download from Adobe that's what I did.,
[06:09] <Phoul> err with the which it says nothing
[06:09] <narfmaster> Phoul, flashplugin-nonfree in Synaptic not apt-get
[06:09] <Phoul> whats the diffrence
[06:09] <linuzo> Phoul, here I will send you the plugin
[06:10] <linuzo> Phoul, if I can find it
[06:10] <narfmaster> Phoul, the package expects you to be running Synaptic, IIRC
[06:10] <Phoul> lol
[06:10] <snoops> Phoul are you using amd64 or i386?
[06:10] <jrib> Phoul: what I would do is install flashplugin-nonfree again (since you don't have the update-flashplugin command).  Then download the tar.gz manually from adobe (I can dcc it if it isn't working for you).  And then do 'sudo udpate-flashplugin -l /path/to/directory/containing/tar.gz'
[06:11] <Grok_> trying to d/l something over http that's fairly large (80mb) and my wreless connection gets interrupted periodically and the d/l dies. anyone have any suggestions for something that will provide ftp resume like capabilities?
[06:11] <brandon_> ompaul: what is the "print system currently used" on your ssytem?
[06:11] <Phoul> flashplugin-nonfree seems to stop at "settings up"
[06:11] <narfmaster> Grok_,  wget -c
[06:11] <ompaul> it is cups /usr/sbin/cupsd to be exact
[06:12] <ompaul> brandon_, and that fires off cupsys
[06:12] <Phoul> like it seems to have stalled
[06:12] <narfmaster> Phoul, it is downloading - give it some time
[06:13] <Phoul> it says setting up shouldnt it already be downloaded?
[06:13] <narfmaster> Phoul, the package is just a script that does the downloading
[06:14] <fyrestrtr> is there a way to extract audio from a .rm file?
[06:14] <snoops> fyrestrtr depends - real media files can be streamed, and if so, it's much harder to encode it in something else, plus you're also dealing with copyright issues
[06:15] <ddonky> fyrestrt - re-encode it as a wav and then work on it
[06:15] <fyrestrtr> I have the file right here -- its not copyright restricted.
[06:15] <fyrestrtr> its just that I need to clean up the audio on it. There is a lot of aircondioner noise an I need to mute that, and hopefully get the voice track out of it.
[06:16] <Grok_> narfmaster: thanks...i had tried just using wget with same results. i'll try the -c switch
[06:17] <Tsunamii> question~
[06:17] <Tsunamii> =] 
[06:17] <abhinay> iam having a problem with my mouse, suddenly the mouse goes to upper right corner or  it doesn't under my control for sometimes, wot was the problem ?
[06:17] <Redman276> i  have a ? about firestarter ,   i have  it  installed and also have  dhcp inbstalled ,   i start it  after  configuring it , its  working but i get an error  saying   could not start  check syslog for details ,  i check  syslog and  suslog.0  and ther is no reference  to it
[06:18] <ddonky> abhinay - i've noticed mine does that too lately, only mine goes to the upper left a couple times a day
[06:18] <Tsunamii> i just downloaded the latest ver. of ubuntu - will my Geforce 6800GS graphic card be supported?
[06:18] <abhinay> then wot is the solution ???
[06:18] <narfmaster> abhinay, clean your mouse?
[06:19] <RaM0n> hi everyone. where is alsaconf in ubuntu???
[06:19] <snoops> fyrestrtr okay seems like you can use mplayer
[06:19] <fyrestrtr> snoops: okay, how do I extract the sound only?
[06:19] <snoops> looks like the command is something like mplayer infile.rm -ao pcm outfile.wav
[06:20] <finalbeta> I just install freenx, logging in with the client makes it start a new session, can I have the client control the current session?
[06:21] <snoops> finalbeta you and me both! I've asked that question and seems the answer is no :(
[06:21] <snoops> what you can do is, just suspend the session you create with freenx
[06:21] <Tsunamii> an somebody answer my question please? :P
[06:21] <phewl> can you ask it ?
[06:22] <snoops> so when you connect to it again, you just get back to your suspended session.. I may be wrong, and I wish I was
[06:22] <abhinay> !mouse
[06:22] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:22] <finalbeta> snoops, yeah, enother bugfix then. Seems to be what linux is all about. I could use the VNC server already available on ubuntu, but it doesn't refresh the whole screen, xchat sessions etc, don't work.
[06:22] <phewl> how do you change the resolution settings in Unreal tournament(any version) before it starts up, my monitor just says "Cannont display video modes" when i try to run it and i have to close and restart x
[06:22] <Tsunamii> i just downloaded the latest ver. of ubuntu - will my Geforce 6800GS graphic card be supported?
[06:22] <snoops> finalbeta I don't believe it's a bug
[06:23] <iceni> checkinstall makes a binary easier to uninstall doesn't it? is that the main benefit? it should be used if you are just installing something on your system instead of make install?
[06:23] <manopulus> hello, is somebody tested http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Clustering-and-Distributed-Networks/OctopuSsh-9326.shtml with ubuntu?
[06:24] <narfmaster> iceni, the main benefit is you can easily uninstall a package that way
[06:24] <java> my wireless card (linksys) shows up as interface = wlan0, however the wiki states it should show up as auth0.. should this be a problem
[06:24] <iceni> narfmaster: OK thanks
[06:24] <narfmaster> iceni, checkinstall is nice that way
[06:25] <Enverex> java, It can show up as different things depending on your chipset
[06:25] <Tsunamii> is there a list of graphic cards that ubuntu has support for?
[06:25] <iceni> narfmaster: good :)
[06:25] <Tsunamii> i want to install it =] 
[06:25] <Tsunamii> but not sure if my graphic card will be recognised
[06:25] <McNutella> hey folks.. Im having trouble emptying the trashcan, permissions issue, can someone advise please?
[06:25] <Super_cat_frog> hi - as alsa-conf isn't part of ubuntu, what should I use?
[06:25] <Kaervek> I have a question for anybody that can help:  First, I should say I'm a complete Linux newb.  I updated Ubuntu with Synaptic, and now I have 2 seperate Ubuntu versions showing up in GRUB.  How can I remove the older version without causing any problems?
[06:26] <Foobal> Super_cat_frog: the nice GUI at your menus
[06:26] <phewl> Kaervek, its very simple
[06:26] <sri_> hi! i am downloading a movie in torrent;I have downloaded 135 mb;Then i want to see the movie ;Then i press the stop button & i see the prievew but it is displaying only 6 sec;why??I
[06:26] <snoops> fyrestrtr did that do the trick?
[06:26] <Super_cat_frog> Foobal: where?
[06:26] <java> Enverex i ran sudo dhclient wlan0, i got "No DHCPOFFERS received" why? my router is configured for dhcp
[06:26] <phewl> Kaervek, open up a terminal and type in sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:26] <Kaervek> sri_: do you normally stop torrents to preview them before they're done?
[06:26] <java> Enverex this laptop i'm on is getting the dhcp
[06:26] <Kaervek> Thanks, Phewl!
[06:26] <java> ip lease
[06:27] <_bt> mcnutella: sudo rm -R /home/username/.Trash/*
[06:27] <phewl> Kaervek, then take out the older version and leave the new one
[06:27] <goubuntu> anyone know of a good linux shell host?
[06:27] <Kaervek> phewl, thanks alot, I'll give it a shot right now..
[06:27] <McNutella> _bt, thanks but what about permissions ?
[06:27] <snoops> sri_ torrents by design are made so they get lots of parts from all over the place - and not in sequential order. It could grab the end first then the beginning then some of the middle.. or a bit of everything
[06:27] <lamish> hihi
[06:27] <lamish> can i have some help
[06:27] <Enverex> java, Does iwconfig show anything interesting?
[06:27] <lamish> i dotn konow how to install any progs..
[06:27] <_bt> should be okay with sudi, McNutella
[06:27] <_bt> sudo*
[06:27] <phewl> lamish, ask your question
[06:28] <lamish> i have downloaded amsn.tar.bz or what its calld
[06:28] <Tsunamii> is there a list of graphic cards that ubuntu has support for?
[06:28] <sri_> snoops, ok;thank u
[06:28] <McNutella> _bt, I mean when I use right click on UI
[06:28] <fyrestrtr> snoops: okay, got the audio out, now what do I use to edit it?
[06:28] <lamish> but i dont know how to intall it
[06:28] <IraqiGeek> hi all
[06:28] <sri_> Kaervek, ya
[06:28] <picket> tar- xzvf filename
[06:28] <lamish> how do install it
[06:28] <fyrestrtr> Tsunamii: https://wiki.ubunut.com/Video
[06:28] <picket> tar -xzvf filename
[06:28] <_bt> McNutella, maybe you moved something that didn't belong to you to the trash
[06:28] <java> Enverex no.. pretty good
[06:28] <Tsunamii> ta fyrestrtr =] 
[06:28] <narfmaster> lamish, sudo apt-get install amsn
[06:28] <lamish> picket you say tar -xzvf filname to me?
[06:28] <McNutella> _bt, much thanks
[06:29] <picket> yes sir
[06:29] <IraqiGeek> i have installed xubuntu on my acer c104 tablet but cant get neither the lan nor the wifi interfaces to work
[06:29] <snoops> fyrestrtr probably the simplist audio editing programme I've seen for nix would be umm audacity
[06:29] <Kaervek> sri_, I suggest you let the torrent finish downloading.  You aren't necessarily getting the files in sequential order with a torrent.
[06:29] <java> Enverex i'm going through the wiki.. everything seems to be checking out fine
[06:29] <Tsunamii> fyrestrtr: doesn't work, but i'll try the search feature =P
[06:29] <java> Enverex just that i can't seem to get an address
[06:30] <Kaervek> sri_, if the 6 seconds you viewed provided you with enough information to know if the quality was sufficient, you're going to have to complete the download to get anything conclusive.
[06:30] <sri_> Kaervek, ok thank u
[06:30] <Super_cat_frog> Foobal: whats the name of the app? i cant find it
[06:31] <Kaervek> phewl, for the sake of discussion here are the two version listed: Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic; Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic
[06:31] <Kaervek> I'll go ahead and remove 15-23.  Thanks again.
[06:33] <Enverex> ARGH
[06:33] <programmer> how can i start ubuntu in console mode
[06:33] <Enverex> I've downloaded the stupid alternate Ubuntu image twice now on my Ubuntu laptop and both times the file has just... dissapeared
[06:34] <iceni> does anyone use xchat? is there a script to show what i'm listening to with any player?
[06:34] <Chousuke> Enverex: run updatedb as root and use locate to find it.
[06:35] <thomas_> programmer: at grub you should have the possibility to choose between normal startup and Recovery Mode
[06:35] <Enverex> Chousuke, I just did find / | grep alternate and it didn't find it, grrr
[06:35] <thomas_> programmer: in recovery mode there is only the console
[06:36] <Chousuke> Enverex: Mysterious
[06:36] <programmer> I want ubuntu to always start in console mode. I would then like to start gnome using startx
[06:36] <thomas_> programmer: was this the answer what you are searching for ?
[06:37] <thomas_> so you mean /etc/init.d/gdm start ?
[06:37] <PacketScan> iceni, don't tourture the users in chan :d   if you must there is a xmms script.
[06:37] <programmer> yes
[06:37] <Paladine> any know any apps/applets that diosplay system info on the desktop as text?
[06:37] <Enverex> Chousuke, Also, when I drag an icon on my desktop when I let go it makes a copy rather than moving it to the new place on my desktop...
[06:37] <Paladine> I have seena couple in theme screenshots recently
[06:37] <thomas_> programmer: let me think
[06:38] <iceni> PacketScan: thanks, i forgot where i was for a second lol
[06:38] <PacketScan> no i don't mean here..
[06:38] <PacketScan> i mean in the other channels your in :d
[06:38] <thomas_> programmer: so ubuntu should always start in console mode and from there you would like to start the xserver yourself with /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:38] <tombs> hi all
[06:38] <PacketScan> the touture..  omg i shoudl just shut up while i'm ahead
[06:38] <programmer> yes
[06:38] <jrib> programmer: use 'update-rc.d' to remove gdm
[06:39] <PacketScan> tombs, hole
[06:39] <PacketScan> hola
[06:39] <PacketScan> major pebak today on my end..
[06:39] <programmer> cant i directly change the runlevel  in /etc/inittab  as in other distros?
[06:40] <finalbeta> soop, again, I'm looking for remote control software, where I can take over the current running session? the VNC server that comes with dapper is to buggy.
[06:41] <Phoul> whats the command to untar a tar.gz
[06:41] <jrib> programmer: you'd have to set that up yourself
[06:41] <jrib> !tar.gz
[06:41] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[06:42] <Phoul> i ment from the terminal
[06:42] <jrib> tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[06:42] <jrib> yeah that factoid used to mention it :{
[06:42] <Phoul> ohh i just had them in wrong order and a - infront of it
[06:42] <PacketScan> tar zxvf filename.tar.gz
[06:43] <jrib> Phoul: - is optional
[06:43] <PhewL> =o
[06:44] <PhewL> any 3d games you recommend?
[06:44] <cius> cube
[06:44] <cius> nice, basic, fast and fun first person shooter  :-)
[06:44] <Phoul> tremulus
[06:45] <PhewL> nexuiz is laggy as shit on my comp
[06:45] <PhewL> but i got a good setup
[06:45] <Phoul> ET
[06:45] <finalbeta> soop, again, I'm looking for remote control software, where I can take over the current running session? the VNC server that comes with dapper is to buggy.
[06:45] <PhewL> any reason why ?
[06:45] <PhewL> and i cant get unreal tournament to get the right resolutions
[06:45] <MrFeetio> how do i change individual icons of floders
[06:45] <MrFeetio> *folders
[06:46] <jrib> MrFeetio: right click > properties, click on the icon
[06:46] <MrFeetio> ohhh, they should write icon underthat like luanchers
[06:46] <MrFeetio> thx later
[06:46] <MrFeetio> i feel dumb now
[06:48] <iceni> lol sorry, i can't make this stupid script work :(
[06:49] <PhewL> your old enought o dance the night away
[06:49] <Lord_Athur> hi all, is there a chilean channel of ubuntu?
[06:49] <ardchoille> iceni: Is that a script to tell the channel which song is playing?
[06:49] <iceni> yes
[06:50] <PhewL> i need that script
[06:50] <PhewL> and a pc info script
[06:50] <PhewL> any suggestions ?
[06:50] <ardchoille> iceni: ok, thanks for telling me.. I can add you to my /ignore list now :)
[06:50] <iceni> np
[06:50] <ardchoille> !coc > ardchoille
[06:51] <PhewL> =s
[06:52] <PhewL> well then
[06:53] <radar_1976> ok I have a big problem
[06:53] <Gassed> Hi
[06:54] <snoops> anyone know of any stargazing programs? eg something which lets me check out information about planet orbits and their relevant information etc?
[06:54] <Gassed> How can I login to my VMWare server from another PC on the local area network?
[06:54] <ardchoille> Stellarium
[06:54] <radar_1976> some how my / partition is now locked on to reload
[06:54] <PhewL> radar_1976, whats the problem
[06:54] <radar_1976> I mean reonly
[06:54] <ardchoille> snoops: I hear Celestia is good too but I have never used it. I like Stellarium.
[06:54] <radar_1976> I can
[06:54] <Razer> hi
[06:54] <radar_1976> grrr
[06:55] <Razer> i need help with my screen resolution
[06:55] <snoops> ah thank you ardchoille :)
[06:55] <Gassed> How can I login to my VMWare server from another PC on the local area network?
[06:55] <Gassed> hi
[06:55] <ardchoille> snoops: You're welcome :)
[06:55] <radar_1976> I can't reboot the server because I get a bash: /sbin/reboot: Input/output error mess
[06:55] <Gassed> How can I login to my VMWare server from another PC on the local area network?
[06:55] <Ropechoborra> Is there some program to scan text for linux??
[06:55] <Lord_Athur> I have win xp and kubuntu drapper on this computer, but windows dowsn't start. After I choose win with grub, windows isn't loaded, what could it be?
[06:56] <linux_user400354> im trying to mount directories with nfs and im getting an error "permission denied by server". i changed the permissions with chmod and i still get the same error. what can i do?
[06:56] <radar_1976> I want to back up the files but how can I if I have no way to write to the partition
[06:56] <ardchoille> radar_1976: sudo shutdown -r ?
[06:56] <linux_user400354> Gassed, many ways
[06:56] <Gassed> I have the VMWare server on both PCs, one is Linux and one is Windows, I want to connect to the Linux machine
[06:56] <matusbraga> #ubuntu-br
[06:56] <serge> I've installed the ATI drivers and set my xorg.conf for fglrx but  fglrxinfo gives me loads of errors
[06:56] <radar_1976> root@macmini:/htdocs/stats.bcwebcams.com# shutdown -r
[06:56] <radar_1976> bash: /sbin/shutdown: Input/output error
[06:56] <santa_> serge: what errors
[06:57] <radar_1976> it was fine last night
[06:57] <santa_> serge: pastebin
[06:57] <radar_1976> but this morning nothing works
[06:57] <Gassed> so that I can finish setting up my virtual install of Win98
[06:57] <serge> santa_, yeah, ummm url for the ubuntu one please?
[06:57] <linux_user400354> im trying to mount directories with nfs and im getting an error "permission denied by server". i changed the permissions with chmod and i still get the same error. what can i do?
[06:58] <Gassed> If the Linux machine's IP is 192.168.0.2, do I use my local logon password and username to log on using the Windows machine
[06:58] <DrShade> Hello!  I'm attempting to boot a kernel and initrd through instlux to install Ubuntu 6.06 and encounter a problem.  The kernel boots but toward the end of the kernel boot process my screen goes black, it does not go into power-save mode though.  I am wondering what are some kernel params I can try to alleviate this?
[06:58] <santa_> serger: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:58] <Ropechoborra> Is there some program to scan text for linux??
[06:58] <santa_> serge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:58] <n0l0nX> ciao
[06:58] <linux_user400354> Gassed, no
[06:59] <Gassed> linux_user400354: Can I have some help?
[06:59] <mp3guy> Goobox never reports the correct timing of the last track of any cd, and therfore won't download cd track data, I need version .9.93 or some version that doesn't have this bug
[06:59] <linux_user400354> !ssh
[06:59] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:59] <finalbeta> I'm looking for remote control software, where I can take over the current running session? the VNC server that comes with dapper is to buggy.
[07:00] <Gassed> ?
[07:00] <linux_user400354> Gassed, read that
[07:00] <acebo> !wireless
[07:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:00] <serge> santa_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18161
[07:00] <radar_1976> ardchoille: any idea?
[07:00] <linux_user400354> Gassed, use ssh with X forwarding
[07:00] <Gassed> How do I connect to the Linux machine with VMWare Server Console (from the Windows machine)
[07:00] <radar_1976> i can't copy the files using scp either
[07:00] <Gassed> linux_user400354: I'm not that experienced with this stuff
[07:00] <ardchoille> radar_1976: No, I have never seen that
[07:01] <santa_> serge: where from did you install the drivers
[07:01] <Razer> hi i need to code to change my screen resolution
[07:01] <ardchoille> !fixres > Razer
[07:01] <linux_user400354> Gassed, you can get openssh for windows and use it to login to the ubuntu server
[07:01] <Mau> does anyone plays classic doom (1,2 TNT etc) in linux (prboom)??
[07:01] <Gassed> hang on
[07:01] <Gassed> or shall I just use PuTTY?
[07:02] <linux_user400354> putty doesnt support X forwarding
[07:02] <serge> santa_, I followed a howto on the ubuntu forums
[07:02] <linux_user400354> you need cygwin to do that
[07:02] <radar_1976> ardchoille: is there any other way to get the files off the machine
[07:02] <serge> santa_, so using apt-get install etc etc.
[07:02] <santa_> serge: ok
[07:03] <santa_> pls post me your xorg.conf in pastebin
[07:03] <serge> oki
[07:03] <Enverex> When new versions of Ubuntu come out, how easy is it to upgrade?
[07:03] <DrShade> Hello!  I'm attempting to boot a kernel and initrd through instlux to install Ubuntu 6.06 and encounter a problem.  The kernel boots but toward the end of the kernel boot process my screen goes black, it does not go into power-save mode though.  I am wondering what are some kernel params I can try to alleviate this?
[07:03] <Enverex> (like Hoary to Dapper, etc)
[07:03] <Gassed> linux_user400354: Shall I just use PuTTY or do I need OpenSSH
[07:03] <Ropechoborra> I got an ftp with program files, http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/ocrad/, how do i know wich one i got to download to install de program?
[07:04] <radar_1976> ardchoille: my gf is not happy
[07:04] <ardchoille> radar_1976: I don't know of any way you can do that if you're getting I/O errors
[07:04] <linux_user400354> either one will work, but you will need openssh with cygwin if you want to use X forwarding
[07:04] <serge> santa_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18163
[07:04] <Gassed> URL?
[07:04] <radar_1976> ardchoille: i have never seen this before either
[07:05] <Gassed> I just want to remotely use the VMWare Server, when you start the Console you are asked to choose a server to login to, either localhost or a remote one
[07:05] <santa_> serge: download http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.2 and copy this file into /usr/lib
[07:06] <serge> okay
[07:06] <offroadgeek> how do you update the hardware list/devices after the install is complete (ie. plugged in an ethernet adaptor)?
[07:06] <santa_> serge: then run fglrxinfo again and it should work
[07:06] <Gassed> linux_user400354: I just want to remotely use the VMWare Server, when you start the Console you are asked to choose a server to login to, either localhost or a remote on
[07:06] <serge> santa_, I just clicked that link and i've given me a load of sybols
[07:06] <jonass> i need help with firefox: ff does not remember cookies, bookmarks and setting changes
[07:06] <santa_> save link as
[07:06] <serge> kk
[07:07] <kbrosnan> jonass, have you tried a new profile?
[07:07] <jonass> no
[07:07] <jonass> how to manage this?
[07:08] <linux_user400354> Gassed, ssh is the way to do it
[07:08] <ardchoille> jonass: Open ff, then go to Edit -> Preferences
[07:08] <jonass> ok thanks ardchoille
[07:08] <Gassed> But what is the dialogue on VMWare Server Console for then
[07:08] <jonass> ah i have a second question, also concerning ff
[07:08] <ardchoille> jonass: You're welcome :)
[07:09] <jonass> when pressing wheel up ff is going backwards and not scrolling up
[07:09] <jonass> quite uncool ;)
[07:09] <santa_> serge: let me know when you've finished
[07:09] <serge> oki i'm having trouble copying
[07:09] <foxpaul> hi all - does anyone know how i can start beagle and have the system tray icon enabled?
[07:09] <santa_> sudo
[07:10] <DrShade> Hello!  I'm attempting to boot a kernel and initrd through instlux to install Ubuntu 6.06 and encounter a problem.  The kernel boots but toward the end of the kernel boot process my screen goes black, it does not go into power-save mode though.  I am wondering what are some kernel params I can try to alleviate this?
[07:10] <serge> kk
[07:10] <serge> santa_, it worked
[07:10] <linux_user400354> Gassed, youd be better off installing ubuntu on a spare computer if you want to learn it
[07:10] <santa_> so
[07:10] <serge> displays the correct thing, and thats it now?
[07:10] <Gassed> I have 2 PCs
[07:10] <santa_> fglrxinfo doesn't show you errors now ?
[07:10] <Gassed> I have no spare
[07:11] <serge> nope
[07:11] <Razer> where can i find a step by step guide on how to install a driver for my nvidia graphic's crad
[07:11] <peterretief> I would really like some help getting the web interface for cups to work
[07:11] <Tomatix> www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:11] <serge> !nvidia > Razer
[07:11] <santa_> serge, so i think this is a problem in the driver update
[07:11] <linux_user400354> !nvidia
[07:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:11] <Gassed> linux_user400354: What is the dialogue on WMWare Server Console for that lets you connect to a remote machine
[07:11] <serge> santa_, but I've fixxed it right?
[07:12] <santa_> serge, yeah
[07:12] <peterretief> i have included cupsys in the shadow group and still cannot log into the admin cups
[07:12] <serge> good, ty :)
[07:12] <ardchoille> !nvidia > Razer
[07:12] <linux_user400354> im not sure. ive used vmplayer, but not vmserver
[07:12] <santa_> serge, np
[07:12] <Gassed> hmmm
[07:12] <papst> networkmanager: as great as it is, i'd like a way to use it without whatsoever applet (console only would be nice). any hint?
[07:12] <Foobal> Gassed: it should get added automatically to your menus actually.. but you can download it from vmware without the rest of the components too
[07:13] <Gassed> huh
[07:13] <foxpaul> does anyone know how i can start beagle and have the system tray icon enabled?
[07:13] <Gassed> Foobal: What do you mean
[07:14] <tamale> Hello everyone!   Any XGL / Compiz veterans here?
[07:14] <tamale> I'm having problems with getting a skydome image to show up
[07:14] <MenZa> #ubuntu-xgl
[07:14] <MenZa> :P
[07:14] <Gassed> Do i have to set something up using the 'Manage Virtual Networks' tool?
[07:14] <tamale> thanks menza  :)
[07:14] <MenZa> np
[07:15] <Ropechoborra> I got a multyfunction printer (Epson Stylus) i installed it as a printer, but how can i install the scanner??
[07:15] <mister_roboto> has anyone here had problems shutting down recently? my laptop, completely up-to-date dapper, won't shut down any longer via logout/turn off computer.
[07:15] <Gassed> install it as a scanner?
[07:15] <offroadgeek> anyone know if you can re-run hardware detection in dapper?
[07:16] <Ropechoborra> Gassed yup.. i Want to scan a document but wont find any scan hardware =/
[07:16] <Gassed> Hmmm.
[07:16] <kbrosnan> jonass, use a command window to run firefox -P
[07:16] <Gassed> soz i dont know
[07:16] <webben1> Can anyone recommend a good program for listening to podcasts on ubuntu?
[07:18] <Burrito-Reading> hi all
[07:19] <Burrito> I'm having a bit of a problem using wget
[07:19] <finalbeta> I'm looking for remote control software, where I can take over the current running session? the VNC server that comes with dapper is to buggy.
[07:19] <Burrito> my password has a bang(!) in it and so when I run my command to fetch a file it dies
[07:20] <GI_joe> ?!
[07:20] <olrrai> what bigger must be /boot for ubuntu?
[07:20] <Dr4g> use Remote Desktop on ubuntu finalbeta
[07:20] <Burrito> is there anyway I can esape that char in my password so it doesn't try to parse it?
[07:20] <jrib> Burrito: did you try enclosing it in ''
[07:20] <krism> burepe:  \! should work too..
[07:20] <BabbleWab> Wondering if anyone's able to help. I've tried to run a LiveCD of Ubuntu (both i386 and AMD64 - I'm on a Athlon64). The status checks all return fine "x.. OK" and all of the checksums also return fine. However, after it does its initial setting up and stuff, it just goes to a blank screen - any suggestions?
[07:20] <cool_nick> farhanahmed: i need to configure my ups(APC), can anyone help me. . .
[07:20] <Burrito> yes krism! that worked!
[07:20] <krism> Burrito, even.
[07:20] <finalbeta> Dr4g, that's the default one I talked about, it's way buggy for me, can't scrol. text just goes over text. weird
[07:20] <Burrito> thank you very much
[07:20] <finalbeta> Dr4g, PM
[07:21] <cool_nick> i need to configure my ups(APC), can anyone help me. . .
[07:21] <olrrai> what bigger must be /boot for ubuntu?
[07:21] <GI_joe> BabbleWab, maybe it's your graphics card that x doesen't respond well to
[07:22] <GI_joe> olrrai, i do not understand
[07:22] <BabbleWab> An earlier version of Kubuntu worked, GI_joe - and it's a fairly common card
[07:22] <GI_joe> are you talking about your partitions?
[07:22] <BabbleWab> ATI Radeon 9800
[07:22] <highvoltage> how do i enable my cups web interface in ubuntu?
[07:22] <olrrai> what is the recomended space for /boot on ubuntu?
[07:23] <krogh> olrrai: Why make a seperate /boot ?
[07:23] <cool_nick> olrrai: 100 Megs would be better. . .
[07:23] <nickwebcouk> whats the best way to partition my ubuntu drive, install windows, then get a dual boot going? any owto's (without destroyin data)
[07:24] <olrrai> and what is the recomended space for / (without /var,/usr,/tmp,/home) on ubuntu?
[07:24] <krogh> 1GB
[07:24] <snoops> nickwebcouk err well windows will overwrite grub no matter
[07:24] <jrib> highvoltage: zless /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian.gz , but you can just use system > administration > printing instead
[07:24] <nickwebcouk> ye
[07:24] <cool_nick> olrrai: hard disk capacity please. . .
[07:24] <highvoltage> jrib: thank you, i'll read that. i'd like to use the web interface though
[07:24] <t0dd`> is there a programming editor that comes with an ubuntu installation?
[07:24] <Enverex> I just have a 100MB /boot, 1GB swap and the rest for / . Partitioning anymore always seems pointless to me
[07:25] <Dromen> anyone know of a place i could host an open source game that uses one port? preferably for free and uses very little cpu
[07:25] <olrrai> 120
[07:25] <jrib> highvoltage: k, the info is towards the bottom
[07:25] <olrrai> 120 G
[07:25] <narfmaster> t0dd`, gedit is not bad for programming
[07:25] <snoops> nickwebcouk so I believe the best approach is use something like gparted if you don't have any unpartitioned space.. resize the partition
[07:25] <smorsony> Anybody know if it's possible to boot Ubuntu 6.06 from a usb pen?
[07:25] <Enverex> bluefish is the best IMHO
[07:25] <snoops> narfmaster depends entirely on what you're programming
[07:25] <nickwebcouk> snoops, ye..
[07:25] <cool_nick> olrrai: home requires more space than others. . .
[07:25] <t0dd`> is there a version of notepad++ for linux?
[07:25] <webben1> with rhythmbox, is it possible to download old podcasts in a series, like itunes allows?
[07:25] <narfmaster> t0dd`, leafpad
[07:26] <t0dd`> oo, ok
[07:26] <snoops> nickwebcouk this might be a bit sneaky and not sure if it'll work.. but you can backup your mbr - and only the boot manager part of the mbr
[07:26] <snoops> so you can leave the partition table changed
[07:26] <olrrai> if I copy DVD to DVD where was the tmp image?
[07:26] <snoops> then it may just work
[07:26] <peterretief> jrib: thanks
[07:26] <olrrai> . /tmp ? /var?
[07:27] <snoops> nickwebcouk anyway - install windows.. boot off of ubuntu live cd.. chroot into your install, reinstall grub
[07:27] <GI_joe> what would you use to rip whole websites for offline browsing in ubuntu? the server is slow as molasses and i could probably download it all within a day or two... in windows i remember using get right, couldnt get the getright browser working under wine though...
[07:27] <snoops> that's one option
[07:27] <snoops> and you can follow that through
[07:27] <livingdaylight> Yo, YO Guys!!!
[07:27] <DrShade> Hello!  I'm attempting to boot a kernel and initrd through instlux to install Ubuntu 6.06 and encounter a problem.  The kernel boots but toward the end of the kernel boot process my screen goes black, it does not go into power-save mode though.  I am wondering what are some kernel params I can try to alleviate this?
[07:27] <snoops> !grub
[07:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:28] <livingdaylight> i just installed Flight Gear; guess what? it ain't anywhere i can see on my system!
[07:28] <cool_nick> olrrai: 2G for temp
[07:28] <nickwebcouk> snoops, good thinking there batman! that shuld b a scene from csi! :P
[07:28] <Ropechoborra> How do i install a scanner ?
[07:28] <t0dd`> thanks, narfmaster
[07:28] <narfmaster> t0dd`, you're welcome
[07:28] <Scrippie> sup?
[07:28] <GI_joe> Ropechoborra, depends entirely on what scanner it is
[07:28] <Ropechoborra> Its a multyfunction printer
[07:28] <livingdaylight> I used Synaptic to install flight gear, which it has apparently done, so why is it not under games or even if i tyupe flightgear in commandline it doesn't recognise the name
[07:28] <Ropechoborra> Epson stylus
[07:29] <livingdaylight> Ropechoborra: thats easy
[07:29] <t0dd`> mm, leafpad requires GTK libraries.. is there a name for the package to retrieve those quickly?
[07:29] <GI_joe> Ropechoborra, it should be suported through "snapscan"
[07:29] <livingdaylight> Ropechoborra: plug it in and go to system/administration
[07:29] <livingdaylight> Ropechoborra: System/Administration/Printing
[07:30] <Ropechoborra> I've already done that
[07:30] <livingdaylight> Ropechoborra: click on 'add printer' and bob is your uncle
[07:30] <Ropechoborra> But it wont scan
[07:30] <Ropechoborra> =(
[07:30] <Enverex> How easy/hard is it to make a package for ubuntu (of a program obviously)?
[07:30] <Burrito> ok another newbish question
[07:30] <livingdaylight> Ropechoborra: select your printer make and model and install
[07:30] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, fgfs
[07:30] <Burrito> how do I set up a cron job?
[07:30] <livingdaylight> narfmaster: fgfs?
[07:30] <Ropechoborra> livingdaylight its installed but dont scan
[07:30] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, yes
[07:31] <RvGaTe> What firefox plugin could i use to playback embedded wmv/mpg movies
[07:31] <livingdaylight> narfmaster: i don't know what fgfs means, sorry
[07:31] <Enverex> RvGaTe, Look up mplayerplugin and totemplugin
[07:31] <ardchoille> RvGaTe: iirc, there's an MPlayer plugin that can do that in Firefox
[07:31] <livingdaylight> Ropechoborra: darn then...that how i got my multifunction epson printer/scanner/copier to work
[07:31] <GI_joe> gxine or totem or mplayer or whatever
[07:31] <RvGaTe> ardchoille, alright, ill look into it
[07:31] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, fgfs = flightgear command
[07:31] <livingdaylight> narfmaster: oh...you diamond geezer, thx
[07:32] <narfmaster> heh no problem
[07:32] <Ropechoborra> livingdaylight cant wait to know :P
[07:32] <livingdaylight> narfmaster: how the hell is one supposed to know that!?
[07:32] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, psychic powers ;)
[07:32] <Enverex> Aww crap, the Ubuntu DesktopCD and Alternate CDs neither see my RAID properly, they just see both drives individually, can anyone help?
[07:32] <ardchoille> haha
[07:32] <Burrito> can someone help me with cron?
[07:32] <livingdaylight> narfmaster:  '<  yes, please
[07:32] <ardchoille> Burrito: I can try
[07:33] <Burrito> ok, I have my command working (it's a command to fetch a file from an ftp server every week)
[07:33] <GI_joe> Can i use wget to rip websites?
[07:33] <Burrito> I just need to add it to a cron job to run every friday at 2:00 am
[07:33] <Foobal> Enverex: that's because you don't have a proper raid card but a software assisted crap chip - too bad.
[07:33] <Burrito> don't even know where to start
[07:33] <Enverex> Foobal, That
[07:33] <GI_joe> what would you use to rip whole websites for offline browsing in ubuntu? the server is slow as molasses and i could probably download it all within a day or two... in windows i remember using get right, couldnt get the getright browser working under wine though...
[07:33] <Enverex> Foobal, : That's it? "too bad"?
[07:33] <ardchoille> Burrito: hold on..
[07:33] <Burrito> k thx
[07:34] <Enverex> So much for friendly distro
[07:34] <livingdaylight> narfmaster: cant get the thing in the air :|
[07:35] <AngryElf> does the lirc package have support for irBlasters?
[07:35] <void^> Enverex: onboard raid?
[07:35] <Enverex> Yeah, nForce4
[07:36] <void^> ...
[07:36] <Enverex> I managed to get it working with dmraid, initrd and such on Gentoo, but if the installer can't even see it I don't see an easy way around it
[07:36] <ardchoille> Burrito: 00 02 * * 05 /path/to/script
[07:36] <cool_nick> can anyone help me configure my ups (APC) using a serial connection?
[07:36] <Burrito> can I just put the script in the crontab?
[07:36] <dadgumit> aanyyyonnee  evveerr  heree                                                                                         off prrooblemss  off locckkingg  uup  aannd                                                                                         reeppiitivvee  kkeyyssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssstrookkes  wiithh  ssmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:36] <dadgumit> mehh  bbrrbb
[07:37] <Enverex> I had that issue with KDE, lol, made it impossible to do anything
[07:37] <ardchoille> Burrito: There's a nice crontab tutorial at: http://linuxweblog.com/node/24
[07:37] <webben1> GI_joe, use wget
[07:37] <Burrito> ok cool thx
[07:37] <webben1> GI_joe, there's a recursive option
[07:38] <ardchoille> Burrito: no, yu need to follow the crontab syntax, and you must use the full path to the file/script
[07:39] <sri_> I inserted a cd with scratches & my cd rom is not responding to eject I tried eject;Can any one help me?
[07:39] <dash`> how can I open a video file through the console?
[07:39] <Fermin> hi
[07:39] <dash`> I seem to have a problem with Totem
[07:39] <GI_joe> webben1, thanks - a simple yes would have done though
[07:39] <DrShade> Hello!  I'm attempting to boot a kernel and initrd through instlux to install Ubuntu 6.06 and encounter a problem.  The kernel boots but toward the end of the kernel boot process my screen goes black, it does not go into power-save mode though.  I am wondering what are some kernel params I can try to alleviate this?  I think it might be monitor/video card related.
[07:39] <sri_> dash`, what is the format ?u have vlc??
[07:40] <dash`> no
[07:40] <narfmaster> sri_, try: eject -r
[07:40] <dash`> atm the only media player I have is Totem, I think
[07:40] <Enverex> No ideas on how to get nForce4 RAID working with Ubuntu then?
[07:40] <sri_> dash`, what are the players u have?
[07:40] <sri_> narfmaster, 1m
[07:40] <dash`> if I try to open the file via GUI, it shows the loading window, then goes away
[07:40] <dash`> sri_ :: just Totem atm
[07:41] <sri_> narfmaster, ya;thanku
[07:41] <narfmaster> sri_, no problem
[07:41] <godtvisken> DrShade: well, it is probably attempting to go into X. you could hit crtl+alt+f1 to see what the error message might be (or cntrl+alt+f8)
[07:41] <sri_> dash`, now go to the directory u have the vedios & then type"totem filename"
[07:41] <dadgumit> weir, I took out linux-kk7--ssmmp  bbuutt I sstiill hhave  smpp??
[07:42] <dadgumit> iideass??
[07:42] <wietz0r> I am now officially a linux user :D
[07:42] <dash`> sri_ ::  it gives no errors or anything, but doesn't do anything
[07:42] <dadgumit> I                                                                                                                                                                                              aam aa bbrookken  linnuxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  uuser
[07:42] <wietz0r> I'm not
[07:42] <DrShade> godtvisken, thanks for the info!  What exactly will Ctrl + Alt + F1 do?  Is this to open a console window?
[07:42] <Ropechoborra> i cant get my scanner to work =((((((((((((((
[07:42] <godtvisken> How do I pash a parameter to what was a module of my kernel, to what now is built in?
[07:43] <sri_> dash`, Have u installed the plugins?
[07:43] <wietz0r> I had to use the 5.10 install disk, the 6.06 won't boot
[07:43] <dash`> sri_ :: yes, I am sure they worked a few days ago
[07:43] <sri_> dash`, Why dont u try vlc?
[07:43] <livingdaylight> ok, so Flightgear is not ready for my computer yet
[07:43] <dadgumit> sserriioouuslyy am  iin                                                                                             diire neeedd
[07:43] <dash`> I am installing as we speak
[07:43] <sri_> dash`, it is a better option
[07:43] <godtvisken> DrShade: well, in linux there are virtual logins, called ttys. it switches to tty1 (or 8) where the loading messages appear. X typically loads in tty7. it's like having 8 console logins
[07:44] <livingdaylight> So, what did i just spend money on a nviia 6600gt graphics card for then?
[07:44] <santa_> he livingdaylight
[07:44] <wietz0r> I need some help
[07:44] <livingdaylight> I hate flightgear - i sux
[07:44] <livingdaylight> santa_: hey
[07:44] <dadgumit> leaastt yyouu cann ttyppe ::||
[07:44] <Ropechoborra> livingdaylight wich program do u use to scan??
[07:44] <wietz0r> I have an acer aspire 9500 and the trackpad is WAAAAAAAAY to sensitive
[07:44] <santa_> livingdaylight: and happy about your 6600 GT
[07:44] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, Doom/Quake/Warcraft/whatever
[07:44] <wietz0r> How do I fix this ?
[07:44] <RvGaTe> ardchoille, hmm, seems to stream alright, but no video...
[07:45] <livingdaylight> santa_: i went hunting for my 6600gt and caught one
[07:45] <Ropechoborra> livingdaylight XSane says that no device has been found
[07:45] <santa_> livingdaylight: and happy about it
[07:45] <livingdaylight> santa_: not sure
[07:45] <dadgumit> :((
[07:45] <livingdaylight> santa_: first i was told i'd be able to get XGL with my onboard graphics card
[07:45] <DrShade> godtvisken, I shall try that, thanks for the info!
[07:46] <godtvisken> DrShade: so.. that should hopefully be able to tell you more closely about your problem
[07:46] <livingdaylight> santa_: which was the primary reason for getting it
[07:46] <nvez> anyone knows why openoffice spellcheck would not work (no errors, just says everything is ok"
[07:46] <Tommy2k4> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[07:46] <Tommy2k4> i get that error twice every time i open something from konsole, what does it mean
[07:46] <livingdaylight> santa_: it has added a lot of noice i didn't have before
[07:46] <mister_roboto> has anyone here had problems shutting down recently? my laptop, completely up-to-date dapper, won't shut down any longer via logout/turn off computer.
[07:46] <mp3guy> is it possible to/productive to rip 3CDs at a time with 3 different drives?
[07:46] <ardchoille> RvGaTe: Hmm.. never seen that happen. Maybe ne of the video gurus here can help with it.. but I think that the mplayer plugin is the right idea.
[07:46] <santa_> livingdaylight, could think
[07:47] <santa_> livingdaylight, so are you running xgl at the moment ?
[07:47] <ardchoille> mp3guy: You sure picked the right nick, lol
[07:47] <t0dd`> is there a gtk package that ubuntu can directly retrieve?
[07:47] <livingdaylight> santa_: nope, took me a day to configure nvidia :)
[07:47] <RvGaTe> ardchoille, thats what im currently using, it could also be a web-site problem.... could you try and open something from http://www.channelchooser.com/ ?
[07:47] <livingdaylight> santa_: i had a go but got stuck with authenticating gpg license
[07:47] <ardchoille> RvGaTe: I don't have the mplayer plugin installed on this machine
[07:48] <RvGaTe> ardchoille, what do you use then ?
[07:48] <Ropechoborra> livingdaylight it says Status: Ready: Printer Fault
[07:48] <ardchoille> RvGaTe: on this machine? nothing, I have no ff plugins on this machine
[07:48] <livingdaylight> santa_: then i went to #xgl but i couldn't get a squeek out of anyone; so i just gave it a brake
[07:48] <Ropechoborra> What can that be?
[07:48] <t0dd`> whenever I try to configure leafpad, I am told my gtk libraries are incorrectly installed
[07:48] <santa_> livingdaylight, could think spend yesterday nearly whole the day to get my nvidia to run the way i want it to
[07:48] <livingdaylight> Ropechoborra: i'm a noob myself. if it don't work the easy way then i don't know how to help - sorry
[07:49] <ardchoille> Can anyone help RvGaTe get mpeg/wmv video working in Firefox?
[07:49] <santa_> RvGaTe, there should be some packages available
[07:49] <livingdaylight> santa_: you spent the day yesterday getting nvidia to run the way you wanted it to?
[07:49] <santa_> RvGaTe, some plugins
[07:49] <RvGaTe> santa_, i tried mplayer plugin, but that gives me sound only...
[07:49] <santa_> livingdaylight, yeah took me really long
[07:50] <livingdaylight> santa_: it aint easy is it?
[07:50] <santa_> RvGaTe, wait a minut have to look for my self
[07:50] <lassegs> is there a XGL channel or do i ask my xgl questions here?
[07:50] <livingdaylight> santa_: i don't even know if i got it working right, hadn't had a chance to test it.
[07:50] <santa_> livingdaylight, my card seems to have a espacially problem
[07:50] <RvGaTe> santa_, take your time...
[07:50] <webben1> is there any way to get APT to grab suggested and recommended packages when you install a package?
[07:50] <TheWahbinator> #xgl-ubuntu
[07:50] <livingdaylight> santa_: that is why i installed flight gear to check out a game, but can't get flight gear to work
[07:50] <lassegs> thanks
[07:50] <Dreamglider> can i scan my windows partion for viruses and other bad things with Ubuntu ?
[07:50] <livingdaylight> santa_: yea, you got 5200 if i remember right
[07:51] <santa_> livingdaylight, right
[07:51] <freddyubuntu> ladies and gentelmen, I dont hear any sound in my dapper ubuntu .. it used to work before , please help me .[in the past I used to fix the problem by restarting the computer,now even restarting the pc wont work] 
[07:51] <santa_> RvGaTe, did you enable all repositories
[07:51] <freddyubuntu> plz help me to fix my sound problem
[07:51] <livingdaylight> santa_: but these graphics cards make a hell of a hum....
[07:51] <RvGaTe> santa_, think so
[07:51] <sri_> Dreamglider, what are u talking about?can linux detect a windows virus??lol
[07:52] <santa_> RvGaTe, do you have a site to test it myself
[07:52] <cius> livingdaylight, you know about glxgears right?
[07:52] <livingdaylight> cius: no, tell me
[07:52] <Cntryboy> anyone use xwinwrap?
[07:52] <RvGaTe> santa_, testing it at http://www.channelchooser.com/
[07:52] <cius> that could tell you whether or not you have 3d acceleration
[07:52] <santa_> livingdaylight, yeah thats right
[07:52] <cius> type glxgears into a terminal
[07:52] <freddyubuntu> did anybody read my messages?
[07:52] <cius> if it runs smooth, you've got accel, otherwise, its using software opengl to try and run
[07:53] <livingdaylight> cius: yea? the wheels are spinning smooth, does that prove i got 3D?
[07:53] <cius> yes, it does
[07:53] <livingdaylight> cius: cool  8-)  nice trick. Its reassuring to know that at least
[07:54] <ardchoille> cius: what does glxinfo | grep render prove?
[07:54] <santa_> RvGaTe, tested local mpeg and wmv before ?
[07:54] <Cntryboy> anyone use xwinwrap?
[07:54] <sri_> Hi!my cc compilers are not working on c++prog why?even gcc compilers are not working on c++;Why?
[07:54] <freddyubuntu> I dont hear any sound  in ubuntu...it used to work before.
[07:54] <Dreamglider> sri_, i'm asking if i can scan a windows partion for viruses yes.
[07:54] <livingdaylight> santa_: have you tried Kororaa? gentoo based live cd with XGL
[07:54] <cius> ardchoille, I would think that would tell you whether or not you have render acceleration, which is an xorg thing, nothing to do with opengl in particular iirc
[07:54] <RvGaTe> santa_, nope... but thats not what im aiming for... i do have an avi file somewhere i could test with tho...
[07:55] <sri_> Dreamglider, no
[07:55] <ardchoille> cius: Ahh, ok, that helps me understand a bit more. Thank you.
[07:55] <flodine> hello ubuntu folk s why should i leave suse for dapper?
[07:55] <Dreamglider> are you sure ?
[07:55] <livingdaylight> flodine: why should i leave Dapper for SUSE?
[07:55] <sri_> Dreamglider, but if u know the virus in the files u can del them
[07:56] <santa_> livingdaylight, no I am enjoing xl/compiz on my Dapper
[07:56] <cius> ardchoille, okay, I just tested it :-) never actually used that before now, it tells you whether or not you have direct rendering enable (dri)
[07:56] <ardchoille> flodine: IMHO, you should try different distros and switch to the one which works best for you
[07:56] <freddyubuntu> ha ha nobody even reads my messages !
[07:56] <freddyubuntu> I am so un wanted
[07:56] <Ayabara> do you guys use vlc version 0.8.4 from the dapper repos, or 0.8.5 / nightly builds?
[07:56] <livingdaylight> santa_: its a live distro to test whether xgl would work on your system
[07:56] <livingdaylight> santa_: its nice!
[07:56] <santa_> RvGaTe, test the totem-xine-firefox-plugin
...guess no one reads your msg...lol
[07:57] <jonass> wher can i fand boot log files? seems to have an error with swapon on boot
[07:57] <cArNy> whats a good newsserver reasder for downloading mp3' and movies ?
[07:57] <livingdaylight> santa_: maybe you can help me to get xgl/compiz to run on mine sometime  :p
[07:57] <richiefrich> !mp3
[07:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:57] <santa_> livingdaylight, could imagine but don't need to test xgl isn't really needing much resources
[07:57] <ardchoille> jonass: Have a look in /var/log
[07:57] <santa_> livingdaylight, should be no problem if your graphic card is configured correctly
[07:57] <jonass> and where exactly ardchoille ?
[07:57] <cius> freddyubuntu, you have no sound at all?
[07:57] <livingdaylight> santa_: seems it is
[07:57] <Redman276> i need some firestarter help
[07:57] <Ayabara> is picasa and google earth the only googlesw that run in ubuntu? what about google desktop search?
[07:58] <RvGaTe> santa_, trying right now...
[07:58] <freddyubuntu> clus - yeah NO SOUND
[07:58] <alex-weej> ut2004 on Xgl without starting a second X server, anyone?
[07:58] <santa_> RvGaTe, report in if it works
[07:58] <livingdaylight> flodine: are you disappointed with suse?
[07:58] <santa_> alex-weej, does it give problems ?
[07:58] <alex-weej> santa_: 2 X servers with fglrx = DIE DIE DIE
[07:58] <cius> freddyubuntu, did you use the live cd to install?  Is this an older installation in which sound used to work but suddenly quit for some reason, or what?
[07:58] <freddyubuntu> clus , I have NO SOUND...I used to have..
[07:58] <ardchoille> jonass: I remember seeing boot messages in /var/log/messages
[07:58] <sri_> can any one tell where the python discussion takes place??
[07:59] <freddyubuntu> yeah CLUS
[07:59] <freddyubuntu> yes clus I used live cd to install
[07:59] <jonah1980> hi i've got scribus-ng.deb file for i386 and i wondered if there is a way to force it to install despite wrong architecture as i'm on 64bit
[07:59] <livingdaylight> santa_: xgl ran sweet on my system when i tested it with the kororaa live cd  :D
[07:59] <Plageuis> hey ENZER its me bortzman MSG me ok plz?
[07:59] <CaveTrog> Need help setting up Linux local attached printer for Win Net Users...any takers?
[07:59] <tga> hey, any idea if it is possible to remove an email address from a GPG key without revoking the whole key?
[07:59] <cius> freddyubuntu, did sound work on the live cd?
[07:59] <santa_> alex-weej: freezing screen or what
[07:59] <freddyubuntu> yeah
[07:59] <freddyubuntu> it worked
[07:59] <freddyubuntu> it even worked after install
[07:59] <alex-weej> santa_: death.
[07:59] <alex-weej> of my kernel.
[07:59] <santa_> livingdaylight, could imagine with a nvidia 6600 GT
[07:59] <freddyubuntu> but it stopped working today
[07:59] <livingdaylight> flodine: Ubuntu is an African word which means I kick ass
[07:59] <matid> Ayabara: there are also some Firefox extensions that should work
[07:59] <santa_> alex-weej: maybe not the right to answer your question try it at #xgl
[08:00] <livingdaylight> santa_: LOL don't be jealous  :)
[08:00] <cius> freddyubuntu, did you install something today or yesterday that may have changed something to do with the sound server?
[08:00] <freddyubuntu> clus NO
[08:00] <sri_> can any one tell where the python discussion takes place??
[08:00] <livingdaylight> santa_: i'll swap my card for your laptop anyday  '<
[08:00] <picket>  #oython
[08:00] <picket> #python
[08:00] <Tonren> I just embarked on a long and arduous journey through Window Manager Land.
[08:00] <freddyubuntu> clus i had this problem before...but I could fix it with Restarting my PC
[08:00] <KenSentMe> I'm filing a bug report for opening .ai files in inkscape and now i have to add a small .ai file to the report. Can anyone send me a small .ai file, i don't have Adobe Illustrator myself
[08:00] <freddyubuntu> clus - but now even restarting wont wokr
[08:01] <sri_> picket, /join #python?
[08:01] <wietz0r> how do I get services to run automatically ?
[08:01] <santa_> livingdaylight, yeah maybe i like my laptop really its my sweetheart anyway
[08:01] <picket> jupp
[08:01] <wietz0r> how do I get services to run automatically ?
[08:01] <santa_> RvGaTe, did it worked ?
[08:01] <t0dd`> how do you extract the files from a bz2 file?
[08:01] <RvGaTe> santa_, gives me an error that MS WMV (win32) is not handled, and i should install aditional plugins
[08:01] <cius> freddyubuntu, I assume you've done normal troubleshooting?  check the speaker connections, make sure they're turned on, turned up, not muted, make sure the volume isn't muted in your sound preferences, etc?
[08:01] <CaveTrog> Need help setting up Linux local attached printer for Win Net Users...any takers?
[08:01] <alex-weej> santa_: ok it worked. ish. it killed Xgl when i started a new X server
[08:01] <sri_> picket, /join #python?
[08:01] <livingdaylight> santa_: tseliot told me to be careful not to screw my system up flirting with XGL
[08:02] <santa_> RvGaTe, so your missing some codecs
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> clus - they work in windows, and I have checked the volume
[08:02] <t0dd`> nevermind
[08:02] <RvGaTe> santa_, looks like it, yeah
[08:02] <santa_> alex-weej, yeah so thats the reason i took the method to start xgl as session
[08:02] <ardchoille> santa_: would w32codecs be the one he's missing?
[08:02] <cius> freddyubuntu, do you know what sound card you have?
[08:02] <livingdaylight> flodine: have your questions been answered?
[08:02] <santa_> RvGaTe, think i know what codecs are missing
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> it is Onboard
[08:02] <santa_> RvGaTe, yeah think so too
[08:02] <alex-weej> santa_: i don't wanna have to log out every time i want to play a game.
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> INTEL onboard
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> it is on ASUS motherboard
[08:02] <alex-weej> santa_: surely they have this sorted in SLED10
[08:03] <krism> anyone reccomend a (gnome/gtk) subversion client?
[08:03] <cius> freddyubuntu, so its an asus board with an intel sound chipset?
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> yeah
[08:03] <gorski> how to compile & run in kdevelop?
[08:03] <cius> freddyubuntu, can you give me a model number for the mobo?
[08:03] <santa_> RvGaTe, try the w32codecs ardchoille mentioned
[08:03] <ardchoille> RvGaTe: Sounds like the mplayer plugin would have worked if you had the right codecs. Sorry I didn't think about the codecs before.
[08:03] <XenonG> I'm going to install the server version of Ubuntu, and I got the live CD, how do I do the server installation?
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> teag
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> yeah
 no im going back and forth not sure whats better
[08:03] <santa_> alex-weej, think so too but thats not that much work to log out an log in again
[08:04] <livingdaylight> flodine: so, you're using suse, what is the problem?
[08:04] <freddyubuntu> intel 828010BA
[08:04] <santa_> alex-weej, but to kill xgl is a good idea but only a temporary solution
[08:04] <RvGaTe> santa_, ardchoille, where can i get these codecs?
[08:04] <freddyubuntu> my motherboard is ASUS p4xp...
[08:04] <santa_> oh
[08:04] <livingdaylight> flodine: i was just reading a rave review about suse, one of the top distros for sure
[08:04] <ardchoille> !w32codecs
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <kandinski> I get a segfault every time I try to test a usb gamepad (have tried two models) with ubuntu dapper on my toshiba m200: is there aknown bug?
[08:04] <flodine> livingdaylight nothing there both good going to run them both
[08:04] <ardchoille> !w32codecs > RvGaTe
[08:05] <santa_> RvGaTe, have to enable some repositories don't know exactly look at the pages you will find it for sure
[08:05] <XenonG> !server
[08:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerFaq/
[08:05] <freddyubuntu> sorry it is intel 828001BA
[08:05] <livingdaylight> flodine: here it is: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/2945
[08:05] <ardchoille> santa_: Thank you for helping him.. you taught me something as well :)
[08:05] <cius> freddyubuntu, its probably an AC '97 codec which typically has excellent linux support.
[08:05] <freddyubuntu>  it is intel 828001BA-ICH 2
[08:06] <freddyubuntu> yeah it is AC 97
[08:06] <santa_> ardchoille: im happy i could help you and him
[08:06] <freddyubuntu> it used to work beautifully in Breezy
[08:06] <Ayabara> matid: ok. I have the notebook extension
[08:06] <skavenge> when a ./configure complains of not having 'X includes' what is it referring to? am i missing x devs or something?
[08:06] <gorski> how to build & compile?
[08:06] <santa_> ardchoille: I don't know this much about ubuntu but a little try to help where i can
[08:06] <freddyubuntu> so what to do?
[08:06] <livingdaylight> flodine: gonna run em both. I thought of doing that, but i'm a noob and just getting used to the debian way of doing things. If suse wasn't .rpm i would definitely be giving it a go too
[08:06] <cius> freddyubuntu, I'm gonna give you a link, you should check out the solution there, see if there's anything you can use.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[08:07] <freddyubuntu> k thanx
[08:07] <ardchoille> santa_: You are appreciated :)
[08:07] <livingdaylight> flodine: can you hande all that uvH rpm stuff. I don't understand a word of it
[08:07] <santa_> livingdaylight, you can change .rpm to .deb through alien
[08:07] <flodine> livingdaylight well suse and smart are so easy together
[08:07] <kandinski> !gamepad
[08:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about gamepad - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:07] <flodine> livingdaylight no rpm here
[08:07] <cius> freddyubuntu, if nothing there can help, come back and someone might suggest something else.
[08:07] <livingdaylight> santa_: yea, common, but an rpm based distro is not the same as a debian based distro
[08:08] <flodine> livingdaylight just smart
[08:08] <skavenge> !compile
[08:08] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:08] <santa_> livingdaylight, thats right what are you searching for
[08:08] <DosBubba> Is there a way to configure a gateway specific to an interface? I have two NICs going to two different cable modems, eth0 and eth1. eth0's default gateway is 192.168.0.1 and eth1's is 71.203.80.1. When I try to use eth1, the packets are trying to route through 192.168.0.1 (eth0's default gateway).
[08:08] <livingdaylight> flodine: well done. Yea, i hear that suse 10.0 had lots of problems with YaST so people had to use smart
[08:09] <livingdaylight> santa_: i'm not searching other than for someone to show me how to install xgl
[08:09] <genceleci> anoyone who has a link for an howto of WPA on ubuntu 6
[08:09] <flodine> livingdaylight its as easy as 123
[08:09] <livingdaylight> flodine: what, installing xgl?
[08:09] <santa_> so damn i lost my bookmarks through my reinstall
[08:09] <cypher1> does libx11-dev package contains the X include files
[08:10] <flodine> livingdaylight cant wait for nld
[08:10] <livingdaylight> santa_: yea, bookmarks get precious
[08:10] <livingdaylight> flodine: for what?
[08:10] <flodine> livingdaylight sled
[08:10] <santa_> so that shouldn't be the problem the install when i have a guide
[08:10] <ardchoille> santa_: Once per week, I email my firefox bookmarks file to my gmail account :)
[08:10] <santa_> ardchoille, so maybe i should do this too
[08:11] <santa_> livingdaylight, so you want to install xgl/compiz now ?
[08:11] <ardchoille> santa_: It's one way of not losing them.. I have lost them before and it made me anry a myself.
[08:11] <livingdaylight> flodine: so tell me is ubuntu and suse both great? is it like slurping chocolate icecrearm and then slurping on say vanilla and not being able to make your mind up which youprefer?
[08:11] <livingdaylight> santa_: yea, sure!
[08:11] <Bloodbeard> DosBubba: Did you try and use "network-admin" on them
[08:11] <flodine> livingdaylight http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/preview.html
[08:11] <kbrosnan> santa_, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Lost_bookmarks
[08:12] <santa_> ardchoille, yeah thats not good losing all the booksmarks
[08:12] <flodine> livingdaylight true
[08:12] <santa_> so livingdaylight lets talk on in #xgl i think that would be more suitably
[08:12] <DosBubba> Bloodbeard, I don't have X installed on the box, but let me check out what it does.
[08:12] <livingdaylight> flodine: arrghh...what a dilemma huh?!
[08:13] <livingdaylight> santa_: ok
[08:13] <flodine> livingdaylight well right now suse got me but still love dapper the dookie brown
[08:13] <Bloodbeard> DosBubba: If you don't have X, then nm
[08:15] <flodine> livingdaylight  i even had fedora rocking
[08:16] <flodine> livingdaylight  i got i problem with them
[08:17] <RvGaTe> santa_, ardchoille, currently downloading: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ ALL package, according to: http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-list/2005-September/msg02949.html, it should have wmv video enabled...
[08:17] <paniq> hey
[08:17] <flodine> livingdaylight  you on gnome
[08:17] <paniq> how can i install a package "gentoo style", that is, from source?
[08:17] <jonah1980> hi can anyone tell me a way round this error please? http://www.eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=10106
[08:18] <paniq> i have a broken package that doesnt work on edgy and i need to build it from scratch
[08:18] <ardchoille> RvGaTe: Yeah, that sounds right. You need the plugin in firefox to get video and you need the codec in the video plugin to enable it to play the files.
[08:18] <Bloodbeard> painq: download the source code
[08:18] <paniq> Bloodbeard: how
[08:18] <paniq> Bloodbeard: i know its possible via apt-get
[08:18] <RvGaTe> ardchoille, takes only 38minutes to download :S
[08:18] <Bloodbeard> painq: hold on one second please.
[08:19] <ardchoille> RvGaTe: 38 minutes?! You on dial-up?
[08:19] <Dreamglider> Rest in Peace Tollak *31 juli 1989 +14 juli 2006
[08:19] <RvGaTe> ardchoille, no, site is damn slow...
[08:19] <RvGaTe> ardchoille, downloading at 5kb/s
[08:19] <jack8> hello, I am looking for a aiglx/compiz liveCD
[08:19] <ardchoille> RvGaTe: If you happen to find patience-0.6.so 0, let me know, lol
[08:19] <Bloodbeard> painq: sudo apt-get install source "package"
[08:19] <Bloodbeard> oops
[08:20] <RvGaTe> ardchoille, thankfully im not in a hurry :P
[08:20] <Bloodbeard> painq: sudo apt-get source "package"
[08:20] <narfmaster> paniq, sudo apt-get -b source package
[08:20] <paniq> whtas the -b for?
[08:20] <Bloodbeard> that'll work too
[08:20] <narfmaster> -b = build
[08:20] <paniq> ah.
[08:20] <paniq> great.
[08:20] <Burrito> ok I can't get this cron to work
[08:21] <Bloodbeard> sorry painq, didn't mean to mislead you
[08:21] <paniq> np
[08:21] <dyggMerald> i've got a Q
[08:21] <Burrito> I did crontab -e
[08:21] <Burrito> and entered a line like this:
[08:21] <ardchoille> Burrito: It isn't Friday yet :)
[08:21] <Burrito> 18 11 * * 00 cd /backups/backup
[08:21] <Bloodbeard> dyggMerald: go ahead
[08:21] <Burrito> yeah I know...I'm testing it for today
[08:21] <Burrito> oops
[08:21] <Burrito> not that
[08:21] <Burrito> it doesn't have the cd in it any more
[08:22] <Grok_> went looking for the firefox plugin directory to install flash...copied the files to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and reloaded firefox but still no joy. i did see a .mozilla dir in my home dir but didn't see a plugins dir there. instructions just say "copy the files to _your_ plugins directory" should i create one in .mozilla/firefox?
[08:22] <godtvisken> How come I cannot run two sound programs at once? As in, if I just watched a youtube video I cannot play banshee until I close firefox and reopen banshee!
[08:22] <ardchoille> Burrito: You have a backups dir in / ?
[08:22] <godtvisken> Grok_: maybe you shoud check out automatix (getautomatix.com i think)
[08:22] <Burrito> yup
[08:22] <Bloodbeard> Grok_: Yes, try creating a .mozilla directory
[08:22] <Burrito> then in my backup file I ave something like this:
[08:22] <Manderson> I lost preferences --> multimedia...anyone know what this package is called?
[08:22] <ardchoille> Burrito: What is /backups/backup?
[08:22] <Bloodbeard> Grok_: nm
[08:22] <Burrito> it's a file
[08:22] <dyggMerald> Multi CD installers and unmounting a disc when the exe file is seemingly in use
[08:23] <Burrito> that has contents like this:
[08:23] <ardchoille> Burrito: Is it a script?
[08:23] <kandinski> can anyone help me debug a segfaulting jstest (usb joypad) on dapper?
[08:23] <Burrito> wget ftp://myun:mypass@mysite.com/myfile.tar.gz
[08:23] <Burrito> wait!
[08:24] <kandinski> it segfaults with two different joysticks that work fine under windows, so it is clearly a software problem.
[08:24] <Burrito> guess what?
[08:24] <ardchoille> Burrito: did you chmod u+x that script?
[08:24] <Burrito> I just go it working
[08:24] <Burrito> yeah I did
[08:24] <Burrito> sweet!
[08:24] <ardchoille> Burrito: it's working now?
[08:24] <Burrito> thanks a ton for the help
[08:24] <Burrito> yup
[08:24] <ardchoille> Burrito: Cool :)
[08:24] <Manderson> I lost system --> preferences --> multimedia...anyone know what this package is called?
[08:24] <Burrito> I had to add a cd /backups; in my backup file first
[08:24] <dyggMerald> I put in disc 1, the install disc and i when the installer requires me to swap disc i cannot remove the current because the system says that the disc is still in use .. which is true in a way but it works in windows
[08:24] <kinema> what is the apt command that lists all installed packages that are not depended on by any other installed packages
[08:24] <paniq> kandinski: segfaults are always a software problem
[08:24] <kandinski> paniq: thanks
[08:25] <kandinski> so what should I do now?
[08:25] <paniq> kandinski: gdb jstest
[08:25] <soundray> kinema: it isn't an apt-get command. You need to install and run deborphan
[08:25] <Ayabara> I want to disable tapping on the touchpad of my inspiron 6000. anyone know how to do this?
[08:25] <paniq> kandinski: on the prompt, enter run
[08:25] <kinema> soundray: that's it.  thanks
[08:25] <Burrito> ok
[08:26] <Burrito> so now how do I stop the job from running now that it's going :S
[08:26] <ardchoille> Burrito: Glad to help :) I couldn't live without crontabs :)
[08:26] <Burrito> I just wanted to test this but it's gonna take forever to grab this whole file and I don't wanna kill my network
[08:26] <ardchoille> Burrito: you can killall wget
[08:26] <paniq> kandinski: hm that joystick package is rather old
[08:27] <Burrito> excellent thank you again
[08:27] <soundray> Ayabara: the package xserver-xorg-input-synaptics has what you need, if your touchpad is a Synaptics device
[08:27] <ardchoille> :)
[08:27] <sri_> what is the cmd to open a new tab in the terminal??
[08:27] <paniq> kandinski: you should definitely report the bug to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[08:27] <paniq> kandinski: you can also test your joystick by typing "cat <device>"
[08:27] <Ribs> sri_: Ctrl + Shift + T
[08:27] <paniq> kandinski: and then press a few joystick buttons
[08:27] <Ribs> well, that's the keyboard shortcut, anyway
[08:27] <paniq> kandinski: and see if it outputs garbage
[08:27] <Ayabara> soundray: seems it is an alps touchpad
[08:27] <paniq> kandinski: if it does, your joystick works.
[08:27] <sri_> Ribs, there is no cmd??
[08:27] <Bloodbeard> sri_: Usually Ctrl + Shift + T, but it depends what console your using
[08:28] <soundray> Ayabara: in that case, you'll have to make do with tpconfig:
[08:28] <soundray> !info tpconfig
[08:28] <ubotu> tpconfig: configure touchpad devices. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.1.3-7 (dapper), package size 57 kB, installed size 192 kB
[08:28] <kandinski> paniq: thanks
[08:28] <Ribs> sri_: why would there be? It's not exactly usefull to script with
[08:28] <sri_> Bloodbeard, i am using ubuntu gnome
[08:28] <ssmith> I have a question installing repositories, how do I nstall the gpg file for a given repository?
[08:28] <dadgumit> anyonee heeaarrdd  ooff  annn iissssssuee  witth ssmp wwheere   llettteerss aarrreeeeeee  ccoommingg  oouuut fasstt wween i type them?
[08:28] <ardchoille> Ribs: That's a good point
[08:29] <paniq> dadgumit: rofl
[08:29] <Ribs> All my points are good.
[08:29] <gnomefreak> ssmith: gpg file?
[08:29] <dadgumit> ssmp [08:29] <gnomefreak> ssmith: do you have a gpg key?
[08:29] <sri_> Bloodbeard, there is no cmd forit?
[08:29] <dadgumit> paniqq: :(
[08:29] <kandinski> paniq: stuff happens when I press the buttons
[08:29] <ardchoille> Ribs: :)
[08:29] <ssmith> Yes
[08:29] <paniq> kandinski: good.
[08:29] <gnomefreak> ssmith: have you used it?
[08:29] <Bloodbeard> sri_: you could use "gnome-terminal --tab-with-profile=PROFILEID"
[08:29] <paniq> kandinski: that means they work.
[08:29] <ssmith> actually it is the debian volatile site for Clam AV
[08:29] <dadgumit> heellp?
[08:29] <knapper> Is there a command to reload/refresh the kmenu?
[08:29] <kandinski> thanks
[08:30] <kandinski> paniq: so now they can work with any application?
[08:30] <Ayabara> soundray: ok. thanks,
[08:30] <dadgumit> googling has ttuunnreed  upp  notthing
[08:30] <paniq> kandinski: with any game that supports joystick, at least.
[08:30] <olrrai> can give me this info any older user plz: du -s /lib ; du -s /lib32
[08:30] <ssmith> I have not used it as I do not know where to save and install the gpg
[08:30] <gnomefreak> ssmith: using your gpg key as simple as (gpg --list keys) iirc is the command will generate .gnupg in your home dir
[08:31] <gnomefreak> ssmith: see seahorse
[08:31] <Manderson> Can anyone help? "system --> preferences --> multimedia" is missing...I am trying to find out what this package is called so I can re-install it.
[08:31] <ssmith> No, I have not used the gpg file
[08:31] <paniq> dadgumit: system -> preferences -> keyboard
[08:31] <gnomefreak> ssmith: install seahorse it will keep track of your keys and otehr peoples key you have gotten over time
[08:32] <olrrai> can give me this info any older user plz:     du -s /lib ; du -s /lib32
[08:32] <paniq> dadgumit: set up your keyboard repeat rate
[08:32] <jiSh> how come firefox reports i dont have java runtime environment installed, when i do in fact ahve the sun-jre1.5 package installed and have configured to use by default
[08:32] <dyggMerald> When a installer needs more than one CD, swapping will be required, but the .exe is still running and the disc considered to be in use, so the disc cannot be unmounted. Isnt there anyone who knows a workaround for this problem ?
[08:32] <sri_> means what?
[08:32] <ssmith> seahorse?
[08:32] <gnomefreak> jiSh: did you install sun-java5-plugin?
[08:32] <ardchoille> !info seahorse
[08:32] <ubotu> seahorse: A Gnome front end for GnuPG. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 797 kB, installed size 2820 kB
[08:32] <soundray> olrrai: it would be much better if you described your problem. What does the age of the user matter anyway?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> ty sri_
[08:33] <ardchoille> ssmith: Seahorse is a very nice app, IMHO.. I use it a lot
[08:33] <gnomefreak> ty ardchoille
[08:33] <olrrai> are u an older user?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> -ty sri_
[08:33] <soundray> olrrai: I'm over 29
[08:33] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: You're welcome :)
[08:33] <sri_> gnomefreak, means?
[08:33] <olrrai> plz run it: du -s /lib ; du -s /lib32
[08:33] <dadgumit> pannniiic iiii ddddooooonttttt    tttthhhhinkkkk    tttthisss isssss     tttthhhattttt,,,      iii ttthhink it is smp basssseddd,,,    sssstttrangelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyy  eeeennnouuuggghhhh    wwwwhhheeennnn    i hold kkkkeeeey dddooowwwnnn iiitt rrreeepppeatttsss    noooormmmmalllyyyy
[08:33] <gnomefreak> olrrai: soundray has been around a while
[08:33] <olrrai> give me values plz
[08:33] <sri_> gnomefreak, what is the cmd
[08:34] <soundray> olrrai: I won't unless you tell me why
[08:34] <gnomefreak> sri_: what command
[08:34] <gnomefreak> sri_: i didnt mean to say ty to you i typoed
[08:34] <olrrai> i am making a rofesion repartitionig
[08:34] <olrrai> i am making a professional repartitionig
[08:34] <sri_> to open the tab in terminal
[08:34] <gnomefreak> sri_: what term?
[08:35] <jiSh> gnomefreak: that was the problem, thanks
[08:35] <gnomefreak> sri_: shift+ctrl+T on most
[08:35] <gnomefreak> jiSh: yw?
[08:35] <jiSh> :P
[08:35] <sri_> gnomefreak, i want to open the tab in terminal by cmd?i know that shot cut...Is there another way?
[08:35] <olrrai> anyone uses linux for about 5 years?
[08:36] <gnomefreak> sri_: not sure never tried
[08:36] <ardchoille> sri_: I looked in man gnome-terminal and didn't see a command for it
[08:36] <sri_> gnomefreak, ok;thank u
[08:36] <soundray> olrrai: all right. I've got 459772 kB in /lib, and 2396 in /lib32. Mind you, this is an amd64 system. And I still think you're on the wrong path.
[08:36] <FunnyLookinHat> olrrai, I've used linux for about 5 years.  Though I'm not sure what you are asking about really   : )
[08:36] <sri_> ardchoille, ok thank u
[08:37] <NewToUbuntu> help, xdisplay is out of sync, any ideas for switching
[08:37] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: normally there isnt one
[08:37] <FunnyLookinHat> NewToUbuntu, have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:37] <olrrai> FunnyLookinHat plz run it and give me values: du -s /lib ; du -s /lib32
[08:37] <gnomefreak> you type bash it will keep you in same one you type zsh it might opne a seperate term
[08:37] <NewToUbuntu> problem is how to switch display on console, otherwise can't type anything
[08:38] <jonah1980> hi i'm trying to run scribus-ng on amd64 with a forces installation but it's giving this message, can anyone help? http://www.eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=10106
[08:38] <FunnyLookinHat> olrrai, 349544 = /lib     lib32 doesn't exist tho dude
[08:38] <nvez> omg vim update
[08:38] <nvez> :o
[08:38] <nvez> The list of changes is not available yet. Please try again later.
[08:38] <nvez> 
[08:38] <olrrai> FunnyLookinHat thank u very much
[08:39] <FunnyLookinHat> olrrai, no problem
[08:40] <Manderson> Can anyone help? "system --> preferences --> multimedia" is missing...I am trying to find out what this package is called so I can re-install it.
[08:40] <sri_> Hi! i installed ubuntu dapper drake 32 bit on amd 64 bit?Is there any lose ?
[08:40] <olrrai> FunnyLookinHat :  u ever has the same instalation?
[08:40] <RvGaTe> ardchoille, hm... download timed out.. :S
[08:40] <ardchoille> Manderson: If no one here replies, you might try asking in ##gnome .. hopefully someone there will know.
[08:41] <FunnyLookinHat> olrrai, I'm not sure I know what you are asking.  If english isn't your primary language you could try one of the ubuntu channels that are for your native language if that helps?
[08:41] <ardchoille> RvGaTe: :(
[08:41] <sri_> Hi! i installed ubuntu dapper drake 32 bit on amd 64 bit?Is there any lose ?decrement in process?
[08:41] <Manderson> thanks ardchoille
[08:41] <ardchoille> Manderson: You're welcome :)
[08:41] <Grok_> problem solved (flash plugin install for firefox): as root copy the .so and the .xpt files to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins (not /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins or .mozilla/firefox area) and restart firefox
[08:42] <sri_> Hi! i installed ubuntu dapper drake 32 bit on amd 64 bit?Is there any lose ?decrement in process?
[08:42] <narfmaster> sri_, are you being facetious?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> sri_: you may lose alot of non-free apps for most part
[08:42] <FunnyLookinHat> narfmaster, no, he's not.
[08:42] <olrrai> FunnyLookinHat: you use linux for about 5 years, but the same version?
[08:43] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, I used 32 on my AMD64 chip, just better support for non free applications and drivers
[08:43] <sri_> gnomefreak, what are they ..?
[08:43] <FunnyLookinHat> olrrai, nope.  I started with slackware way back when.
[08:43] <RvGaTe> ardchoille, santa_, allright, i got the package from mplayers website... so, how do i enable/install these codecs?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> sri_: most non-free apps are built for 32bit (widely used)
[08:43] <olrrai> how maye years was your las instalation?
[08:43] <olrrai> how many years was your last instalation?
[08:43] <santa_> RvGaTe, what is the package
[08:44] <santa_> RvGaTe, .deb ?
[08:44] <RvGaTe> santa_, no, just some files
[08:44] <santa_> is there a makefile with it ?
[08:44] <FunnyLookinHat> olrrai, how long ago did I last install?  um, I installed ubuntu 6.06 about 2 months ago...
[08:44] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, u mean it is an advantage??
[08:44] <hangfire> just curious, anyone know why konversation puts an underscore behind your username by default?
[08:45] <olrrai> ohhh, u have 300Mb on /lib only
[08:45] <santa_> RvGaTe, is there something like Makefile or something
[08:45] <RvGaTe> santa_, no, just dll, so, o, acm, ax... kind of stuff
[08:45] <gnomefreak> RvGaTe: you cant use dll's in ubuntu
[08:45] <hangfire> RvGAte- deb is a makefile of sorts
[08:45] <santa_> RvGaTe, would be better to install w32codecs through Synaptics or with apt-get
[08:45] <FunnyLookinHat> sri_, I would say it is better to stick to the 32bit version for now, you don't get any really bonus for using the 64bit version right now.
[08:45] <santa_> RvGaTe, you downloaded a package for windows
[08:46] <gnomefreak> santa_: you cant install w32codecs in from apt atm
[08:46] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[08:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:46] <sri_> FunnyLookinHat, ok;thank u
[08:46] <RvGaTe> gnomefreak, i know, but it contains linux based files to...
[08:47] <RvGaTe> hangfire, i know what a .deb is, but thx anyway :)
[08:47] <santa_> gnomefreak, why can't install the w32codecs through apt
[08:47] <gnomefreak> santa_: it isnt in apt
[08:47] <RvGaTe> santa_, i would do if it was listed in the list :S
[08:47] <_Spire_> is there a way to prevent mounted disks from appearing on the desktop?
[08:47] <Gassed> VMWare is emulating Windows 98 rather slowly _ and there is no sound! Why?
[08:47] <gnomefreak> santa_: it in plf repo but its down atm
[08:47] <RvGaTe> santa_, its a mixed package... the readme says its for linux...
[08:47] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[08:47] <gnomefreak> like 3 days or so
[08:48] <_Spire_> livemode: check the Xserver logs
[08:48] <gnomefreak> RvGaTe: you are not getting dll on linux unless its inside another file
[08:48] <santa_> RvGaTe, so there must be a makefile or a rpm  or a deb
[08:48] <livemode> spire where are they saved to usually
[08:48] <santa_> RvGaTe, can't imagine of more
[08:48] <livemode> _spire where are they saved to usually
[08:48] <RvGaTe> santa_, there is only a readme really...
[08:48] <_Spire_> livemode: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:48] <livemode> ty
[08:49] <gnomefreak> RvGaTe: what file extention?
[08:49] <knanand> Hi all
[08:49] <santa_> RvGaTe, so can't really imagine
[08:49] <_Spire_> livemode: replace 0 with 1 if use start X on screen :1 instead of :0
[08:49] <knanand> Is there any Text-to-Speech Apps in ubuntu??
[08:49] <Gassed> Why is VMWare emulating so poorly? I have like 8-bit color and a very small resolution, no sound and it lags really bad when trying to do anything, you should see maximising a window
[08:49] <_Spire_> Gassed: do you have vmware tools installed on the guest
[08:50] <gnomefreak> knanand: i think so but i would look through synaptic if noone knows
[08:50] <Gassed> no
[08:50] <_Spire_> Gassed: if it's windows, try installing the tools :)
[08:50] <Gassed> How do I get them
[08:50] <santa_> RvGaTe, could you pastebin I am really interested in it
[08:50] <_Spire_> Gassed: is this workstation, player, or server?
[08:50] <Gassed> Server
[08:50] <Gassed> (because its free)
[08:51] <juan> espaol
[08:51] <livemode> _Spire_ what am i looking for in the log please
[08:51] <juan> spanish
[08:51] <santa_> gnomefreak, and there are no other repos wich are providing the w32codecs
[08:51] <gnomefreak> juan: #ubuntu-es
[08:51] <juan> thx
[08:51] <_Spire_> Gassed: one of the menus has the option
[08:51] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[08:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:51] <someothernick_> is there a keyboard shortcut to logout
[08:51] <TheWahbinator> alt-printscreen-b
[08:51] <gnomefreak> read that its 2 commands and poof you have them
[08:51] <TheWahbinator> j/k
[08:51] <Gassed> _Spire_: Thanks
[08:52] <_Spire_> livemode: look at the latest part of the log. are there any warnings or errors? they're usually prefixed with (WW) or (EE)
[08:53] <livemode> _Spire_ Open APM failed
[08:53] <knanand> How to use festival???
[08:53] <Zoolie> hi all
[08:53] <Zoolie> is there any way to remove the tab from chatwindow?
[08:53] <Zoolie> in kopete?
[08:53] <_Spire_> livemode: is there anything else? pastebin it
[08:53] <santa_> gnomefreak, so where should anyone try to get the w32codecs from
[08:53] <livemode> ok
[08:53] <livemode> i have many WW's
[08:53] <gnomefreak> santa_: you need to read the link ubotu posted
[08:53] <cypher1> !w32codecs > santa_
[08:53] <RvGaTe> santa_, http://pastebin.be/1335/
[08:54] <gnomefreak> santa_: you wget it from another repo
[08:54] <_Spire_> livemode: just pastebin your whole X log
[08:54] <livemode> _Spire_ will do!
[08:54] <cypher1> !w32codecs > cypher1
[08:54] <knanand> can some1 help me to use festival text to speech? Please..
[08:54] <Zoolie> is there any way to remove the tab from chatwindow in kopete?
[08:54] <_Spire_> is there a way to prevent mounted disks from appearing on the desktop?
[08:54] <gnomefreak> RvGaTe: not one of those are gonna help you with anything
[08:54] <sri_> _Spire_, go to ubuntu forums then u go to multimedia then u download w32 codecs
[08:55] <_Spire_> sri_: ?
[08:55] <_Spire_> sri_: think you got the wrong person
[08:55] <sri_> _Spire_, then the extention will be like .deb then click on it
[08:55] <arkygeek> hi everyone.  since switching to ubuntu it seems my laptop is running hotter and that the fan is running a lot more.  has anyone else experienced this?
[08:56] <cypher1> arkygeek, yes sometimes i also feel the same
[08:56] <sri_> _Spire_, sorry
[08:56] <livemode> _Spire_ i am sorry but xserver has crashed in the middle of it
[08:56] <livemode> i am going to try it remotely
[08:56] <cypher1> arkygeek, which laptop ?
[08:56] <arkygeek> cypher1: nec i-select
[08:56] <cypher1> arkygeek, which version of ubuntu ?
[08:56] <someothernick_> is there a keyboard shortcut to LOGOUT?
[08:56] <arkygeek> cypher1: dapper
[08:56] <mohkohn> hello. just installed ubuntu dapper.  impressed to see it detected my wireless card without having to ndiswrapper -i
[08:56] <mikearthur> what would be the best way of stripping a file extension from a string, in Bash?
[08:57] <sri_> santa_, go to ubuntu forums &go to multimedia search for w32 codecs
[08:57] <arkygeek> mohkohn: is it an atheros card?
[08:57] <sri_> santa_, search for .deb format
[08:57] <santa_> gnomefreak, yeah but when it is possible to wget it from another repo why can't i write the another repo into my sources.list
[08:57] <jonass> how can i create a new profile in firefox?
[08:57] <cypher1> arkygeek, recently moved to dapper .. have not seen it after it
[08:57] <mohkohn> arkygeek: nope. Broadcom
[08:57] <santa_> sri_: i don't need the w32codecs
[08:57] <KenSentMe> I'm filing a bug report for opening .ai files in inkscape and now i have to add a small .ai file to the report. Can anyone send me a small .ai file, i don't have Adobe Illustrator myself
[08:57] <kbrosnan> jonass The Profile Manager is a way to easily create, rename, delete, or switch profiles. Follow the instructions here to see it: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager
[08:57] <gnomefreak> santa_: because its unsafe having debian repos on your system
[08:57] <sri_> santa_, u wanna play live...
[08:58] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[08:58] <sri_> santa_, through totem..?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> KenSentMe: wouldnt it be safer to ask in #windows? or #adobe?
[08:58] <santa_> sri_, no i have no problems only want to know it for future questions from ater guys
[08:58] <mohkohn> the eth1 says it is active but I cannot connect to the airport express wireless network at my girlfriends place
[08:58] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: good idea
[08:58] <sri_> santa_, ok
[08:59] <_Miroslav_Ilic_> I have one question. If I select Croatian when I am installing Ubuntu, does that mean that Ubuntu will be in Croatian when it is installed?
[08:59] <cypher1> mohkohn, paste "netstat -in" output
[08:59] <gnomefreak> yes *should* be mikearthur
[08:59] <gnomefreak> ack
[08:59] <santa_> sri_: but nevertheless i have a question maybe you know a answer
[08:59] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[08:59] <gnomefreak> _Miroslav_Ilic_: should be
[08:59] <mikearthur> gnomefreak: I'm confused :s
[08:59] <santa_> sri_, want to set up a ftp server
[08:59] <gnomefreak> mikearthur: kwrong person
[09:00] <_Miroslav_Ilic_> Nice :)
[09:00] <mikearthur> kk
[09:00] <gnomefreak> mikearthur: i meant _Miroslav_Ilic_
[09:00] <mikearthur> np
[09:00] <santa_> sri_, what tools is the best for me
[09:00] <mohkohn> I can't even ping the network. cypher just did only eth0 and lo show up
[09:00] <sri_> santa_, u know free bsd?
[09:00] <mohkohn> sit0 and eth1 show up with iwconfig
[09:00] <sri_> santa_, for server administration it is the best one
[09:01] <sri_> santa_, os
[09:01] <cypher1> mohkohn, what is sit0
[09:01] <santa_> sri_, know free bsd
[09:01] <gteppel> I have Ubuntu installed (just console, no Xorg) and that box is connected to a KVM switch. The resolution is really crappy, the top and bottom of the screen is stretched off the boundaries of the monitor which makes it near impossible to use. I tried setting defoptions vga=791 in /boot/grub/menu.list and issued a update-grub, but I'm still getting the same problem!
[09:01] <mohkohn> I am typing this in osx but the ubuntu laptop is next to me here.
[09:01] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:01] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:01] <gteppel> how can I fix this?
[09:01] <cypher1> mohkohn, paste "iwconfig" output
[09:01] <santa_> sri_, but don't want to change I only want to make up a ftp for some files no professional server
[09:01] <_Miroslav_Ilic_> What brand of modem is best to use with ubuntu?
[09:01] <Gassed> Hi i've installed the VMWare tools and it's great, but Win98 still doesn't have the audio working
[09:02] <ardchoille> _Miroslav_Ilic_: in my experience, I have to say stay away from winmodems
[09:02] <santa_> sri_, and i am really happy with ubuntu so I don't want to change the distro
[09:02] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:02] <mjr> Gassed, that's not really an Ubuntu question, so don't be surprised if you don't get an answer
[09:02] <santa_> sri_, only need a tool to set up a normal ftp
[09:02] <cypher1> santa_, there are many ftp servers available for download.. vsftpd should be good i guess
[09:02] <sri_> santa_, i dont know anout server adminstraion
[09:02] <Gassed> Im on about VMWare Server
[09:02] <Gassed> (Linux)
[09:02] <mohkohn> not sure. think sit0 is the dhcp server but do not quote me on that.
[09:02] <sri_> santa_, i am also learning it
[09:02] <mjr> Gassed, nevertheless
[09:03] <cypher1> mohkohn, paste "iwconfig" output
[09:03] <santa_> sri_: no problem thanks for your help anyway
[09:03] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:03] <santa_> sri_: learning it too
[09:03] <santa_> sri_: :)
[09:03] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[09:03] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:03] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[09:03] <sri_> santa_, i heared that freebsd is good for server administration
[09:03] <mohkohn> cypher1: can't paste the laptop is not connected
[09:03] <offroadgeek> how do I get dapper to recognize/add new network devices after a fresh install?
[09:03] <sri_> santa_, do u know about it?
[09:03] <santa_> cypher1, so what is your favourite ftp server tool
[09:04] <santa_> sri_: only a little bit not very much
[09:04] <cypher1> mohkohn, i am not sure what sit0 is for.. but can you disable or down it
[09:04] <mohkohn> it does say ESSID: off/any and Access Point: Invalid
[09:04] <mohkohn> sit0  no wireless extensions
[09:04] <sri_> santa_, what is the diff b/w ubuntu & free bsd?
[09:05] <cypher1> santa_, if you are looking for a professional server then tools matter.. for setting up a small ftp server it should be very easy
[09:05] <knanand> Help for Festival Please...
[09:05] <tamale> Quick qustion - what's the quickest, easiest, most idiot-proof way to get my MX500's two side buttons to behave as alt+left / right arrow in firefox and the file browser?
[09:05] <santa_> sri_: this are two different distros with different package system etc.
[09:05] <LjL> sri_: ubuntu is a Linux distribution (i.e. uses the Linux kernel), and the core operating system tools are the GNU ones. FreeBSD uses the FreeBSD kernel and its own tools
[09:05] <tamale> last time i tried to do this it involved editing xorg.conf by hand and i fucked up my whole system  :[
[09:05] <billybennett> Ubuntu + WPA = No Go?
[09:05] <_Miroslav_Ilic_> Is it better to install Ubuntu on machine with 32bit or 64bit processor? I want to buy a new PC for Ubuntu, but I do not know what is better.
[09:06] <PacketScan> nogo
[09:06] <santa_> LjL so FreeBSD has its own kernel?
[09:06] <someothernick_> is there a keyboard shortcut to LOGOUT?
[09:06] <Flannel> tamale: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[09:06] <santa_> cypher1: only want to set up a little server to upload some files nothing professional so what are you recommanding
[09:06] <mohkohn> tried dhclient eth1 : SIOCSIFFLAAGS: No such file or directory
[09:06] <cypher1> mohkohn, are you using wep ?
[09:06] <LjL> santa_: sure, like the other BSD's. it's almost a direct derivation of the "original" Unix, whatever that is, while Linux was written from scratch
[09:06] <carthik> someothernick_ you'll have to set one yourself
[09:07] <someothernick_> can't
[09:07] <Kirk_> Hello
[09:07] <mohkohn> cypher1: no wep
[09:07] <Gassed> is anyone here good with VMWare Server?
[09:07] <carthik> someothernick_ why cant you?
[09:07] <Kirk_> !anyone
[09:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:07] <santa_> LjL, so don't know before thanks
[09:07] <carthik> someothernick, it would be helpful if you were more verbose with describing your problems.
[09:07] <someothernick_> carthik: ubuntu's all messed up
[09:07] <sepehre> hi, is there mac-like dock for gnome or kde?
[09:07] <someothernick_> carthik: no menu's
[09:07] <carthik> someothernick_ I didn't shave today
[09:08] <LjL> santa_: note that FreeBSD does ship with a "compatibility layer" (API emulator, whatever you want to call it) to run Linux binary applications, in any case, and i hear it works with many
[09:08] <Flannel> someothernick_: you can use the command line, ctrl-alt-f1, then "sudo shutdown -h now"
[09:08] <KenSentMe> I get a connection error when connecting to jabber.org. Am i the only one or is the jabber.org server down?
[09:08] <someothernick_> Flannel: ty
[09:08] <santa_> LjL, so what is running on normal linux should also work with the api emulator
[09:08] <mohkohn> iI have the mac in front of me. It says Name: Base Station 728db IP 10.0.1.1
[09:08] <ardchoille> sepehre: iirc, kde has one and gdesklets (for gnome) has starterbar that mimics the mac bar
[09:08] <tamale> thanks Flannel, but that link talks about editing xorg.cong.
[09:08] <sepehre> KenSentMe, I can't ping jabber.org either
[09:08] <tamale> conf
[09:08] <tamale> i dont' want to edit any files by hand.
[09:08] <cypher1> santa_, install any ftp server.. maybe vsftpd.. edit /etc/vsftpd.conf to allow anonymous users.. move the files to anonymous users root directory.. done :)
[09:08] <sepehre> KenSentMe, nvm I can =D it's up
[09:09] <santa_> cypher1: ok thanks
[09:09] <santa_> cpyher1: will immediatly try it
[09:09] <LjL> santa_: sorta... it's a bit like how you can run Windows apps under Wine. except that the Linux layer of BSD is quite a bit more reliable, i think
[09:09] <sepehre> ardchoille, thanks, I'll give those a try quick
[09:09] <KenSentMe> sepehre: well, i can visit www.jabber.org, but i can't login to my jabber account using gaim
[09:09] <mohkohn> Ethernet (WAN) 00:14:51:72:8d:4a
[09:09] <computer13137> I would like to setup subdomains off a DNS "s1.alphahertz.com" on my server.  If someone has spare time and can help me to do so, I have temporarily reset the root password, and will give ANYONE willing root access temporarily to try to do this for me.  I need to know what the problem is, and why I can't use VHCS to create subdomains.  If anyone is willing PM me.  Thanks!
[09:09] <Flannel> tamale: Yep, you'll have to.  Just make a backup of it first, you can revert if you have problems
[09:09] <tamale> can't i just get some kind of an extension for the mouse control thingie so i can add button functionality there?
[09:09] <santa_> LjL, good to know
[09:10] <tamale> *sigh*
[09:10] <tamale> ok
[09:10] <AlveKatt> Hello. I am buying a laptop, and I want to make sure that I get as much compability with Ubuntu as possible.
[09:10] <mohkohn> AirPort ID 00:14:51:72:8d:4b
[09:10] <ardchoille> sepehre: You're welcome :)
[09:10] <AlveKatt> What should I avoid, think about?
[09:10] <cypher1> mohkohn, what does the iwconfig output says ? has it recognized the AP
[09:11] <Flannel> AlveKatt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:11] <AlveKatt> I have found an interesting model, but it wasn't in the hardware issues list.
[09:11] <godtvisken> How come when one sound program is open, it blocks another from using sound until I close the other?
[09:11] <computer13137> Please answer my question at your earliest convenience.  A free hosting provider is waiting for my response to the issue.
[09:11] <mohkohn> cypher1: AP: Invalid
[09:12] <cypher1> computer13137, maybe you can check the same in #dns also :)
[09:12] <computer13137> On freenode?
[09:12] <jb_> anyone else been having troubles with ndiswrapper on edgy?
[09:12] <cypher1> mohkohn, that means it has some problems in finding the AP
[09:12] <computer13137> Thanks cypher
[09:13] <mohkohn> cypher1: what steps to troubleshoot?
[09:13] <jb_> no, couldn't even load ndiswrapper properly. Fixed (for me) by pulliing and installing current (1.21) source.
[09:14] <godtvisken> How do I modprobe ALSA? I don't know it's module name
[09:14] <unity> hello, i have just run smartmontool's short test on a disk, and got this: # 1  Short offline       Completed: read failure       60% and i have the LBA_of_first_error, can this problem be corrected by reallocating sectors, or is this disk gone for good?
[09:15] <cypher1> mohkohn, where you able to connect to other wireless AP's shortly?
[09:15] <santa_> cypher1: so do you know an ftp server with a gui
[09:15] <mohkohn> is anyone here familiar with osx  and ubuntu?
[09:15] <unity> !anyone
[09:15] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:16] <tamale> i'm sorry, but i must point out that that "!anyone" message is extremely rude.
[09:16] <tamale> it's polite to ask if anyone knows something
[09:16] <tamale> and well understood what it means.
[09:17] <AlveKatt> Does Ubuntu support widescreen displays out of the box? And is it easy to hook up an extra screen with an extended desktop?
[09:17] <tamale> especially since so many people coming here are new.
[09:17] <mohkohn> I can't connect to anything. previously had hoary and breezy on here. Great wireless with breezy
[09:17] <HtheK> How can I set my GAIM to show offline contacts?
[09:17] <cypher1> santa_, just looked at archives.. there is pureftpd and pureadmin(gui for managing pureftpd)
[09:17] <ubunewb> hi, can anybody help me please with this. I'm trying to install X on the server installation of Ubuntu, I followed some intructions on the web but apt-get says it cannot find menu or icewm. What am I doing wrong? thanks!
[09:17] <suston3d> is it possible to install kdevelop/ogre in ubuntu 6.06 by searching the packages, or do i have to get it at each homepage ?
[09:17] <santa_> cypher1: ok will take a look for it
[09:17] <poje> HtheK: buddies->show offline buddies
[09:17] <HtheK> Okay.
[09:18] <HtheK> Thanks!
[09:18] <poje> ubunewb: did you try apt-get ubuntu-desktop?
[09:18] <poje> ubunewb: I think that contains all the X stuff + Gnome
[09:18] <ubunewb> does that install everything including the games and other stuff?
[09:18] <poje> HtheK: np :)
[09:18] <ardchoille> ubunewb: that installs the gnome desktop environment
[09:18] <HtheK> :D
[09:18] <ubunewb> I did it this way because I just want to have a clean X with only Firefox, Gaim, OpenOffice
[09:18] <poje> ubunewb: I'm not sure, you could check packages.ubuntu.com
[09:19] <poje> ubunewb: I think ardchoille is right though, just the desktop
[09:19] <ubunewb> hmm ok, thanks, I'll give it a try
[09:19] <jkp> hey guys
[09:19] <jkp> i need a hand
[09:20] <jkp> im backporting a package from efty
[09:20] <poje> ubunewb: Hah, take it back...looking at the dependencies, it installs pretty much everything
[09:20] <jkp> i need it on dapper, so anyway
[09:20] <ubunewb> hmm ok, don't think ubuntu-desktop is just the desktop, it says I'll need 1.2GB for this :P
[09:20] <jkp> i took the package and built it on my system
[09:20] <poje> ubunewb: the overhead would be really low if that's what you're afraid of
[09:20] <jkp> b ut the library names got screwed up
[09:20] <jkp> it didnt put the version numbers in correctly
[09:20] <ubunewb> I'm more concerned about not having all kinds of confusing things on the desktop
[09:20] <tamale> unity:  Do you have any power to remove / edit the ! commands ?  If so please consider removing the !anyone command.  I feel it's totally against the ubuntu spirit.
[09:20] <krzak> anybody know solution for terminating WiFi connections while using WPA encryption ??
[09:21] <ubunewb> next step I'm planning is to arrange things according to the way I find logical
[09:21] <jkp> i thought it just too those from the rules file?
[09:21] <mohkohn> come to think of it the wireless card used to come up as wlan0 in breezy. Now eth1. Is there a reason for that?
[09:21] <unity> tamale: no i do not have that power, and i'm just doing it because someone did it to me the last time i came here
[09:21] <ubunewb> the default Ubuntu desktop distribution have all kinds of things installed in X by default and the placement is confusing to me, i.e. finding Terminal inside Accessories instead of System Tools :D
[09:21] <poje> mohkohn: yes. voodoo magic
[09:21] <mohkohn> cool
[09:22] <poje> ubunewb: that's why the stuff I use it on the taskbar and not the menus ;)
[09:22] <dan_slack> hi all
[09:22] <Flannel> ubunewb: ubuntu-desktop is the entire desktop package, all the programs, etc
[09:22] <Jamo> where does ubuntu install sun-java5-jdk when I use apt-get to install it?
[09:22] <poje> ff, tb, gaim, terminal, gedit
[09:22] <tamale> unity:  exactly.  it's a vicious cycle.
[09:22] <unity> tamale: talk to the !ops
[09:22] <dan_slack> i'n newbie to ubuntu, can't setup the printer runing live 6.06 cd
[09:23] <tamale> i'm sure someone will notice our conversation.
[09:23] <ubunewb> hmm, so there's no way to get X installed with just bare items like FF/OOO/Gaim?
[09:23] <unity> tamale: i'm sure they're all idling
[09:23] <ubunewb> if I choose any desktop be it KDE/Gnome/Ubuntu I'll have to live with all the extra junk?
[09:23] <ddonky> CAn someone help me get audio CDs working?
[09:23] <ubunewb> that sounds rather terrible... like Microsoftish :D
[09:23] <AlveKatt> Does Ubuntu support 1680x1050 resolution?
[09:23] <tamale> ALvekatt:  yes
[09:23] <Tru7h> Hey, all.
[09:23] <gnomefreak> tamale: it is not gonna be removed
[09:24] <AlveKatt> tamale: Thank you!
[09:24] <tamale> gnomefreak:  why ?
[09:24] <gnomefreak> tamale: people need to learn to ask questions
[09:24] <DBO> tamale, if you wish to continue discussion you can join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:24] <poje> ubunewb: two choices: install what you want piece by piece, or take the whole thing
[09:24] <gnomefreak> tamale: there is no need to
[09:24] <Jamo> someone needs to tell me why the fuck apt-get install sun-java5-jdk & sun-java5-jre do not replace or even update the java 1.4.2 already installed on the LAMP installation
[09:24] <poje> ubunewb: at least you _have_ a choice
[09:24] <ubunewb> poje, I was trying to install it piece by piece
[09:24] <gnomefreak> Jamo: watch your language
[09:24] <Flannel> ubunewb: not necessarily.  but you'd need to ntsall them yourself.
[09:24] <ddonky> I get this error: "Reason: could not get/settings from/on resource"
[09:24] <AlveKatt> Is there a list somewhere with all supported videocards?
[09:24] <poje> ubunewb: I didn't say it was easy ;)
[09:24] <ubunewb> but apt-get fails on trying to get menu or icewm
[09:24] <Flannel> ubunewb: and, you can get 'just' gnome, or whatever too.
[09:24] <ubunewb> lol poje, well, I didn't expect it to be smooth sailing
[09:25] <ubunewb> Flannel, how do you do that?
[09:25] <poje> ubunewb: I don't see either of those in ubuntu-desktop
[09:25] <bikini> is there a version of wine for amd64? or a way to install it?
[09:25] <mohkohn> I am really stumped on this wireless card.Why would it show up in iwconfig and not ifconfig?
[09:25] <dan_slack> is it possible to setup the printer runing live 6.06 cd?
[09:25] <ubunewb> I'm kinda lost when all I get is a blank screen and mouse cursor that does nothing :D
[09:25] <cypher1> gtg
[09:25] <cypher1> bye all
[09:25] <Flannel> ubunewb: via apt, just install the packages, they're meta packages, they'll install the dependencies, etc
[09:25] <mohkohn> thanks cypher1
[09:25] <Jamo> !paste
[09:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:26] <Flannel> ubunewb: that's X.  That's /all/ X does, has a blank screen with a cursor that does nothing
[09:26] <poje> So
[09:26] <Gassed> hi, My desktop isnt appearing
[09:26] <poje> XGL+compiz is pretty slick
[09:26] <Flannel> ubunewb: until you install other stuff ontop of X
[09:26] <knapper> where is the xmodmap file located?
[09:26] <poje> Except I've already had it lock up my machine once
[09:26] <bikini> anyone? wine for amd64? or another windows emulator?
[09:26] <ubunewb> Flannel, I figured that I need a Windows Manager after X right?
[09:26] <poje> ubunewb: metacity
[09:26] <Flannel> ubunewb: essentailly, yeah.
[09:26] <Gassed> shats the Bash command to delete a file
[09:27] <poje> Gassed: rm
[09:27] <Gassed> whats*
[09:27] <Gassed> kk
[09:27] <dan_slack> is it posssible to install printer runing live cd?
[09:27] <ubunewb> Poje, I did apt-get install metacity, it worked and startx gives me... blank screen :P
[09:27] <Gassed> thanks
[09:27] <poje> ubunewb: do you have gnome in there
[09:27] <ubunewb> so I remove metacity, tried icewm, and it couldn't find it :P
[09:27] <ubunewb> hmm i install x-windows-core, xterm gdm
[09:27] <Flannel> ubunewb: it's in universe
[09:28] <darkowl> Hello
[09:28] <darkowl> I have a question
[09:28] <ubunewb> hmm ah, so I have to enable the not-free repository to get icewm?
[09:28] <poje> ubunewb: I'm kinda fumbling around here since I've never rolled my own xserv ;d
[09:28] <Flannel> ubunewb: not non-free, universe.
[09:28] <Jamo> java problem -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18174
[09:28] <ubunewb> lol, poje, it's ok, we all can fumble aorund and hopefully learn!
[09:28] <poje> ubunewb: universe/multiverse can be handy
[09:28] <darkowl> How can i boot so I dont get directly into graphical enviroment...I want to use text-mode...
[09:29] <ubunewb> ok, time to go figure out how to add the repository in CLI :D
[09:29] <Flannel> ubunewb: a text editor.
[09:29] <poje> ubunewb: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <Flannel> !tell ubunewb about repositories
[09:29] <Flannel> poje: nano wouldve been a better choice ;)
[09:29] <NewToUbuntu> mouse not working any ideas
[09:29] <poje> Flannel: true ;(
[09:29] <Gassed> My desktop isnt working
[09:29] <Gassed> i cant right click
[09:29] <poje> Flannel: although I am partial to pico ;d
[09:29] <Gassed> or do anything with it
[09:30] <lampshade> vim for the win
[09:30] <ubunewb> ah nano, vim, vi, as long as it works :D
[09:30] <poje> Jamo: I got 1.5 jre/jdk installed with automatix, I don't know what the packaging does
[09:30] <red_> Hi, I installed ubuntu on a partition in an ambition to learn more about linux, but i'm unable to access my windows partition, any idea why/ or how I could access it?
[09:30] <darkowl> How can i boot so I dont get directly into graphical enviroment...I want to use text-mode...
[09:30] <poje> Ewww vi
[09:30] <darkowl> How can i boot so I dont get directly into graphical enviroment...I want to use text-mode...
[09:30] <ubunewb> personally I prefer Joe because I used to use Wordstar :D
[09:30] <poje> vim >>> *
[09:30] <poje> Actually
[09:30] <lens> what's the easiest command to install the biggest python package?
[09:30] <poje> Real men use ed.
[09:30] <ubunewb> LOL
[09:30] <Jamo> plz advise java issue -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18176
[09:30] <ubunewb> no, they input binary codes directly :P
[09:30] <darkowl> How can i boot so I dont get directly into graphical enviroment...I want to use text-mode...
[09:31] <lampshade> lens: what are you looking to do, python is installed by default unless you did some really wierd install?
[09:31] <lampshade> darkowl: change the run level
[09:31] <godtvisken> How can I get more than one application to use my soundcard at once?
 an you be more specific ?
[09:31] <blackline> Anyone with experience on installing Unreal Tournament 2004? Im trying to and need to change cd two second disc during instal, but Ubunu wont let me eject *confused*
[09:31] <ubunewb> hmm....
[09:32] <Flannel> blackline: you need to unmount before you can eject
[09:32] <bakert> blackline: sudo umount /media/cdrom in a terminal
[09:32] <ubunewb> ok, I'm trying to install metacity again, it installs, then startx goes blank. Isn't Metacity a WM?
[09:32] <blackline> bakert yes but it says the disc is busy
[09:32] <lens> lampshade: it's my n00b friend... lol... he keeps getting these weird errors, it says easyubuntu will not install untill these errors are fixed, but he is having a hard time even pastebinning it heh.
[09:32] <lampshade> darkowl: yeah gimme a second, I don't remember how--been a while--let me find it real quick
[09:32] <poje> ubunewb: yeah but I don't think it's designed to be standalone
[09:32] <bakert> blackline: ahhh ... problematic ... mount probably has a "force" option ???  try "man mount"
[09:32] <Flannel> lens: for easyubuntu support, the channel is #easyubuntu
[09:32] <lens> I'll try that.
[09:32] <poje> lens: is the PLF repo back up?
[09:32] <funtable> darkowl: in file /etc/inittab , has options to how your linux boot up , em Graphical or text
[09:32] <red_> Anybody know how I can access my Windows partition?
[09:32] <blackline> bakert tried that also. stll says its busy
[09:33] <Flannel> !tell red_ about ntfs
[09:33] <ubunewb> poje, hmm so it piggyback on another WM like say Enlighten?
[09:33] <red_> thanks
[09:33] <lampshade> that's what it is, inittab  I couldn't remember that for the life of me
[09:33] <blackline> bakert and the unreal installer just asks me to put the next disc in
[09:33] <godtvisken> red_: do you know it's partion name?
[09:33] <lens> poje, I dunno, we used the dapper guide.
[09:33] <red_> nope
[09:33] <gnomefreak> poje: no
[09:33] <poje> ubunewb: nah, just that metacity alone won't give you a GUI ;d
 what do i need to change there ?
[09:33] <AlveKatt> What is Xorg?
[09:33] <ubunewb> poje: damn! :P
[09:33] <picket> !xorg
[09:33] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:34] <gnomefreak> ubunewb: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <poje> lens: gnomefreak says the repo easyubuntu uses is still down, so it's not going to be able to install properly
[09:34] <ddonky> Error playing CD:  reason: could not get/set settings from/on resource.
[09:34] <gteppel_> Does anybody know of a guide for setting up a OpenVPN (Bridged Mode) server that is specific to Ubuntu?
[09:34] <lens> heh, it's sort of hard to help him until he can figure out pastebin.
[09:34] <gnomefreak> poje: what is it trying to be installed?
[09:34] <ubunewb> gnomefreak: I don't want the whole 1.2GB shebang that's why :D
[09:34] <lens> oh really? OK, that solves it.
[09:34] <lens> gnomefreak... all we can...
[09:35] <poje> gnomefreak: not sure, but if they're using easyubuntu it's going to freak out as that repo is what they use for a good bit of nonfree stuff
[09:35] <lens> gnomefreak, nothing specific, just codecs and flash and everything.
[09:35] <ddonky> can someone help me get my audio CDs working?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> lens: that doesnt help but most of what easyubuntu installs is in multiverse repo
[09:35] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs > lens
[09:35] <ubunewb> YAY!!!! I got GUI :D
[09:35] <poje> lens: try the automatix package
[09:35] <poje> And then run automatix
[09:35] <ubunewb> Icewm works after the universe started :)
[09:35] <lens> I use automatix, some people don't like it.
[09:35] <poje> ubunewb: good :)
[09:36] <darkowl> How can i boot so I dont get directly into graphical enviroment...I want to use text-mode...
[09:36] <poje> lens: just tell your friend to use it or do it alone ;)
[09:36] <Jamo> how do I upgrade java 1.4 to java5
[09:36] <poje> darkowl: you already got an answer to your question
[09:36] <ubunewb> thanks flannel, poje, and the bot :D
[09:36] <poje> Jamo: automatix did well for me
[09:36] <gnomefreak> Jamo: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[09:36] <lens> lol, I think he just figured out paste-bin hallelujah
 but i dont know what do i need to change in there
[09:36] <Jamo> gnomefreak: done, java -version says java 1.4.2
[09:36] <gnomefreak> poje: and ubunewb jopin #automatix to talk about automaix
[09:37] <Jamo> gnomefreak: and I can't find where it installed the java5 jre
[09:37] <gnomefreak> Jamo: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:37] <noobfenix> anyone knows why there is no sound when im loading an swf file in firefox ?
[09:37] <funtable> darkowl: change the line , like this : id:2:initdefault:
[09:37] <gnomefreak> Jamo: once that command is run type the number of the line with java 1.5
[09:37] <ddonky> Can someone help me with audio CDs?
[09:37] <gnomefreak> Jamo: might be line 3
[09:37] <gnomefreak> ddonky: what about them?
[09:38] <Jamo> gnomefreak: thank you VERY much, this really needs to get on the community docs site
[09:38] <gnomefreak> Jamo: it is
[09:38] <gnomefreak> !java
[09:38] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:38] <ddonky> gnomefreak - a little box says: error playing cd, and below it: reason: could not get/set settings from/on resource.
[09:38] <gnomefreak> ^^ its ont here
[09:38] <gnomefreak> ddonky: what player?
[09:38] <Jamo> gnomefreak: bah, :(
[09:38] <Jamo> gnomefreak: thx again
[09:38] <gnomefreak> ddonky: what type of cd is it?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:39] <ubunewb> ultra-noob question: How do I shutdown the WM nicely without resorting to CTRL-ALT-BACKSPC?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ddonky: is it home made
[09:39] <mohkohn> Why am I getting send_packet: Network is down when I "sudo /sbin/ifup eth1"?
[09:39] <ddonky> soundjuicer has that error, totem says 'error accessing 'cdda:///dev/hdc': Invalid URI', and beep doesn't even 'see' the audio cd
[09:39] <carthik> ubunewb, why not click the logout button?
[09:39] <ddonky> gnomefreak, both cdrs and commercial audio cds
[09:39] <krism> anybody know how to get apt-get to show me package details (e.g. dependencies is what i'm most interested in)
[09:40] <mohkohn> When I know the network is up....or I would not be on irc!
[09:40] <gnomefreak> ddonky: sounds like your cd-rom isnt being mounted
[09:40] <carthik> krism, dpkg -s package-name | grep Depends
[09:40] <gnomefreak> off hand i  cant remember the mount command its been forever since i had to use it
[09:40] <krism> carthik: ah, thank you
[09:41] <carthik> mount -t auto /dev/hdc /media/cdrom ?
[09:41] <carthik> krism, anytime
[09:41] <ubunewb> carthik: I tried that, nothing happened :D
[09:41] <ddonky> gnomefreak - an icon appears on the desktop, should i see something when i type 'mount'?
[09:41] <gnomefreak> ddonky: if the icon is there its mounted
[09:42] <skavenge> whats the easiest way to run a small cli command automatically after x login?
[09:42] <funtable> ubunewb: try dmesg | grep CD-ROM
[09:42] <lampshade> skavenge: open a terminal in Applications >. Accessories >> Terminal
[09:42] <carthik> ubunewb, try gnome-session-save --kill
[09:42] <funtable> ubunewb: to know where is your cd
[09:43] <skavenge> uh thats not automatically
[09:43] <lampshade> skavenge: oh wait, didn't see the automatic part sorry
[09:43] <lampshade> haha
[09:43] <ubunewb> funtable: somebody else's asking about the CD, not me, yet :P
[09:43] <funtable> hehe ok
[09:43] <ubunewb> carthik: is that in a terminal window or ?
[09:44] <carthik> yeah, ubunewb
[09:44] <ddonky> gnomefreak - naut 'sees' the audio cd, but when i click it i get "cdda:///dev/hdc" is not a valid location
[09:44] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:44] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[09:44] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[09:44] <Taza> Apparently I have to manually config the vertrefresh and horizsync for my monitor manually.
[09:44] <AlveKatt> Can I expect an nvidia card to work with Ubuntu without tampering?
[09:44] <mohkohn> On a mac where can I find the essid
[09:44] <mohkohn> ?
[09:44] <lampshade> skavenge: System >> Preferences >> Sessions >> Startup Programs tab and you should be able to add the command there  does that help?
[09:45] <Taza> I have a Hitachi CM1711MET, do values 25-82 and 50-120 sound right?
[09:45] <Taza> Apparently it's a really good monitor, capable of 1600x1200, but I'm not sure.
[09:45] <ddonky> gnomefreak -  tail | dmesg returns a bunch of lines of this: cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize! 		 	 		 		 		 		 		 	 		 			 			 				 				
[09:45] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:45] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[09:45] <carthik> mohkohn, essid for a network that you are connected to?
[09:45] <lampshade> I assume it will do CLI too, though I only use it to open programs that aren't cli but I don't see why it won't work
[09:46] <skavenge> lampshade: tried that and it cries thinking the program should be a x application
[09:46] <DBO> ddonky, you have an audio cd without any data tracks
[09:46] <DBO> ddonky, let me get you the fix
[09:46] <skavenge> im using kde but it  has the same basic 'startup program' deal
[09:46] <ddonky> DBO - a commercial audio CD.
[09:46] <ubunewb> carthik: log out apparently works... I just have to leave it alone for a few minutes :D
[09:46] <ubunewb> is it normal for the gnome session window to stay open for a long time after X loads up?
[09:46] <DBO> ddonky, it happens
[09:46] <carthik> ubunewb, oh so like  me you have an old computer, i suppose
[09:46] <ubunewb> yah, it's an old laptop I'm using for this
[09:47] <ubunewb> P4 1.7 IIRC
[09:47] <XenonG> How long?
[09:47] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:47] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[09:47] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[09:47] <XenonG> ubunewb, you can try Xubuntu, its faster
[09:47] <sorush21> who wrote this wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:47] <DBO> ddonky, This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize
[09:47] <sorush21> is he around..
[09:47] <ubunewb> XenonG: a few minutes from feeling, I could time it by watch
[09:48] <DBO> ddonky, oops, here http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=19736&group_id=79609#AEN105
[09:48] <poje> ubunewb: shouldn't be that long, my 500mhz laptop is plenty fast
[09:48] <ubunewb> Xenon, is it an whole desktop shebang or just the WM?
[09:48] <XenonG> I boot Ubuntu via VMware, and it can boot in 40 secs
[09:48] <XenonG> no
[09:48] <ddonky> DBO - yeah it says that in dmesg
[09:48] <XenonG> its Ubuntu with X window.
[09:48] <ubunewb> poje: I figured it was weird since the Ubuntu normal desktop installation didn't have this problem
[09:48] <DBO> ddonky, check out the link I sent you
[09:48] <XenonG> lighter on resource
[09:49] <ubunewb> ok, about 3 minutes from startX until the gnome window manager window disappears
[09:49] <XenonG> omg.
[09:49] <ubunewb> i can use other apps while it's there tho, just that log off won't work until it disappears
[09:49] <XenonG> How much ram do you have?
[09:49] <XenonG> try pressing F5 after booting.
[09:49] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:49] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[09:49] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[09:49] <ubunewb> either 512MB or 640MB or something
[09:50] <XenonG> after login in
[09:50] <ubunewb> how do I check that?
[09:50] <XenonG> try to "refresh" your desktop
[09:50] <XenonG> there a F5 key, on your keyboard.
[09:50] <XenonG> try to look for it.
[09:50] <ddonky> DBO - ok
[09:51] <darkowl> How to change keyboard layout in text mode
[09:51] <darkowl> ?
[09:51] <XenonG> If anyone is thinking of trying out other linux distibutions, don't, they are harder to use than Ubuntu, bye bye.
[09:51] <noobfenix> can someone help making sound work in swf files with firefox ?
[09:52] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:52] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[09:52] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[09:52] <mohkohn> I am new to wireless and mac.  Yes it is my girlfriends airport express network..carthik
[09:52] <ubunewb> hmm actually I feel they are equally hard :D
[09:52] <ubunewb> or easy depending on how you look at it...
[09:53] <carthik> mohkohn, just do a $iwconfig ->that will give you information about the networks you are connected to
[09:53] <mohkohn> I get nothing
[09:53] <mohkohn> AP is Invalid
[09:54] <carthik> mohkohn, else, do a $sudo iwlist scanning ->to scan your surroundings for wireless networks
[09:54] <Jed1> Anyone got a working wiki for ATI x1600 cards ?
[09:54] <ubunewb> hmmm this is bad, icewm has now taken over my boot :/
[09:54] <darkowl> How to change keyboard layout in text mode ?
[09:54] <mohkohn> interface doesn't support scanning
[09:55] <carthik> mohkohn, that says it all - maybe your network card isn't installed or configured properly
[09:55] <ubunewb> how do I stop X from starting on boot?
[09:55] <foxpaul> hi all - does anyone know if it's possible to change the default bootsplash theme? I'd like to use a different one
[09:55] <nosklo> darkowl, loadkeys <layout>
[09:55] <mohkohn> according to gnome eth1 is active
[09:55] <ddonky> DBO - ok now nautilus crashed when i tried to access the cd, so ejected it and put it back in and it doesnt auto mount now.
[09:55] <mohkohn> it shows up in iwconfig
[09:55] <carthik> ubunewb, https://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/22/booting-in-to-the-command-prompt/
[09:55] <ubunewb> ty Carthik
[09:55] <mohkohn> but not ifconfig
[09:55] <nosklo> foxpaul, install gnome-splashscreen-manager
[09:56] <DBO> ddonky, are you still getting those errors in dmesg?
[09:56] <foxpaul> nosklo: thanks
[09:56] <carthik> mohkohn, only interfaces taht are up and working (connected) show up in ifconfig
[09:56] <mohkohn> how do I get it to work
[09:56] <mohkohn> ?
[09:57] <foxpaul> nosklo: that looks like it's only for gnome-splash screens
[09:57] <mohkohn> should be dhcp
[09:57] <ddonky> DBO - no a differnet one now: cdrom: pid 18777 must open device O_NONBLOCK! and cdrom: open failed.
[09:57] <mohkohn> it is dhcp
[09:57] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:57] <nosklo> foxpaul, ah, you need to change boot
[09:57] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[09:57] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[09:57] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:57] <DBO> ddonky, ok you got hit by the other bug... lemme see if I remember the fix...
[09:57] <carthik> mohkohn, use the network administration tool to set up a connection?
[09:57] <synth> I want to unload sata_mv but it's in use, i dont have any disk partitions mounted or anything, what else could be using it?
 i get an error bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[09:57] <ddonky> k
[09:57] <Jamo> can anyone explain to me why /var/lib/apache2 exists, but config is in /etc/apache2 whereas for tomcat5 it is the otherway around?
[09:57] <smoofra> anyone know where i can find directions for how to make a custom ubuntu install cd?
[09:58] <mohkohn> i did. but I am really new to wireless.
[09:58] <ubunewb> carthik, that didn't work
[09:58] <Jed1> Anyone now if its possible to run X in 1280x800 with VESA driver?
[09:59] <tamale> yes jed1
[09:59] <tamale> it is
[09:59] <bbrazil> Jed1: in theory, yes
[09:59] <ubunewb> I'm stuck in a loop inside X. If I do a ctrl-alt-bspace, it flashes to the CLI login for 1 sec before starting up X again
[09:59] <tamale> my laptop is 1280x800
[09:59] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[09:59] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[09:59] <mohkohn> I will own up and say which looks more like an ESSID "Mary's Network" or Base Station 728d4b"
[09:59] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[09:59] <nosklo> foxpaul, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:59] <foxpaul> nosklo: cheers, i'll have a look
[09:59] <carthik> mohkohn, there is little anyone can do to help from such a distance - just keep trying, and use your intuition - try different things, watch out for error messages etc. /etc/network/interfaces defines the config for connection and $sudo ifup eth1 (or your interface's label) and sudo ifdown will bring the connection up and down...
[09:59] <tamale> LET'S HEAR IT FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE IN HERE PROVIDING AWESOME SUPPORT FOR FREE!!
[09:59] <tamale> *CHEERS!*
[09:59] <Jed1> tamale, how?
[09:59] <ubunewb> *cheers*
[10:00] <mohkohn> done the above
[10:00] <tamale> Jed1 - ubuntu found it automatically for me.
[10:00] <skavenge> does anyone happen to know why my open gl screensavers only play on like the upper 1/3rd of my screen? regular screensavers work fine, how do i fix this?
[10:00] <skavenge> (kde)
 i get an error bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[10:00] <santa_> he guys how can i search for packages in the terminal with apt-get ?
[10:00] <Jed1> tamale - aha... I only got 1024x768
[10:00] <carthik> santa_, apt-cache search foo
[10:00] <tamale> santa_ -   apt-cache search
[10:00] <KomiaPoika> tamale ;)
[10:00] <livemode> sudo apt-get
[10:00] <Jed1> tried to change in xconfig with no luck
[10:01] <nosklo> darkowl, what are you trying to do?
[10:01] <livemode> Jed1 have you tryed dpkg--reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:01] <santa_> tamale, i think that was is searched for
[10:01] <livemode> there is some monitor stuff in there
[10:01] <santa_> tamale, thx
 I want to have my keyboard layout from graphic mode in text mode
[10:01] <mohkohn> Do I need to put the DNS in with dhcp?
[10:01] <Jed1> no. not yet :)
[10:02] <nosklo> darkowl, i type:  loadkeys us
[10:02] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[10:02] <jrib> :q
[10:02] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[10:02] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[10:02] <nosklo> darkowl, that loads us keyboard
[10:02] <santa_> tamale, this was the command i searched for thx
[10:03] <andrea> #unplug
[10:04] <someothernick> andrea: ?
[10:05] <amortvigil> hey does anyone knwo a good mmorpg?
[10:05] <someothernick> yes
[10:06] <amortvigil> wich one?
[10:06] <eyequeue> what is mmorpg?
[10:06] <someothernick> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:06] <amortvigil> massively multiplay online rpg
[10:06] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[10:06] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[10:06] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[10:06] <eyequeue> a reporting app?
[10:07] <verix> how do I get my monitor to activate and show the loading screen before X loads?
[10:07] <Khisanth> doing an apt-get update sucks when the acpid has gone haywires >_>
[10:08] <ubunewb> ty for the help, Carthik
[10:08] <ubunewb> g'nite all
[10:08] <carthik> ubunewb, no problemo
[10:08] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[10:08] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[10:08] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[10:09] <soundray> verix: set VERBOSE to yes in /etc/default/rcS and try the vga=771 boot option.
[10:09] <ddonky> DBO - did you remember the fix for my audio cd probs?
[10:10] <verix> mmkay
[10:10] <directedition> Hello, I'm installing ubuntu on a friend's computer. The installer app freezes when starting to partition. Knoppix can see and read the harddrive, but qtparted also freezes when looking at it. Any help would be appreciated.
[10:10] <DBO> ddonky, ddonky have you tried with a different CD (just for kicks)
[10:10] <DBO> too many ddonky's...
[10:10] <verix> where would I set that vga=771 boot option?
[10:11] <ddonky> DBO - yes, both commercial audio cds, and cdrs, both of which work on other pcs
[10:11] <eyequeue> verix, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:11] <verix> k
[10:11] <verix> in all the menu options or just in one place?
[10:11] <verix> I'm new to editing grub, used to lilo, heh
[10:11] <livemode> directedition have you tryed putting the hard drive on a single ide cable other than joint on the cdrom ide cable
[10:11] <eyequeue> verix, #kopt, that line
[10:11] <livemode> hiya chik
[10:11] <offLimits> can anyone tell me how can I get emacs with gtk look?
[10:11] <verix> k
[10:11] <eyequeue> verix, you okay editing as root?
[10:11] <soundray> verix: in grub. You can add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst -- the #kopt= line in there -- or you can edit the menu entry directly on boot if you just want to try it once
[10:12] <DBO> ddonky, I hate resorting to this, but can you please reboot...  it might be easier than trying to figure out whats messed up
[10:12] <directedition> livemode: it is on a seperate channel
[10:12] <corran> whom should I report a bug to when the bug comes from two packages?
[10:12] <soundray> verix: if you change menu.lst, run sudo update-grub afterwards
[10:12] <Centaur5> Does anybody have a suggestion on what to use to edit mp3s besides Audacity?  I need to turn the volume down on a mp3 but Audacity only lets you turn it up.
[10:12] <eyequeue> verix, sudo update-grub, after the edit
[10:12] <erUSUL> corran: file the bug against both packages in launchpad
[10:12] <livemode> directedition sorry i dont know but feel free to hang for other help
[10:13] <ddonky> DBO - ok, should I change that key back to dev.cdrom.check_media=0?
[10:13] <directedition> thanks
[10:13] <verix> hm
[10:13] <DBO> ddonky, yes
[10:13] <larson9999> anyone here got screenkast installed?
[10:13] <ddonky> k, brb
[10:13] <corran> erUSUL: What is this "launchpad"?
[10:13] <verix> the part where it says something like # kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro ?
[10:13] <erUSUL> !bugs
[10:13] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <verix> comment that out and edit that to say kopt=vga=771?
[10:13] <eyequeue> !launchpad
[10:13] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:13] <verix> err, uncomment
[10:13] <erUSUL> !bugs > corran
[10:14] <bobbyd> hi
[10:14] <corran> erUSUL: wouldn't you normally use reportbug?
[10:14] <someothernick> hello
[10:14] <hi_im_human_can_> hi!
[10:14] <eyequeue> verix, read that file carefully, the # is necessary (though counterintuitive) and is not a comment
[10:14] <bobbyd> would it be possible to run the server install of ubuntu in 32 MB of ram?
[10:14] <someothernick> hello!
[10:14] <livemode> got a problem with xserver, my box runns for a bit then after awhile xserver just freezes, can anyone help me please?
[10:14] <livemode> i have pastbined my Xorg log
[10:14] <livemode> _Spire_ http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=98
[10:14] <verix> ahh. okay
[10:15] <eyequeue> ## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs
[10:15] <verix> yeah
[10:15] <verix> if there's something already there, do I just add another #kopt= line, or do I add a comma after the first command?
[10:15] <offby1> I just built a package from source (I did "apt-get source screen", then "cd screen*; fakeroot make -f debian/rules binary; then "dpkg -i ../screen*.deb").  Now the "Software Updates" thing is telling me that I need to upgrade "screen".  How can I make it not do that until there's an actual update available?  I already tried putting screen "on hold" via aptitude.
[10:15] <eyequeue> verix, mine reads thusly: # kopt=root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=773
[10:15] <verix> ahh alright
[10:15] <verix> thanks
[10:16] <hi_im_human_can_> listen, I wouldn't dream of spamming your channel, but I'm a newb, and I've been here for two hours trying to figure out how to get my ban removed from #php...the op in there is just ignorant as hell- I went in and ask for php help, he said I was spamming, and I denied it, then he banned me.  It's a crock of shit.  Can one of you help me, because I've been bouncing from room to room all day.  IT's getting old lol.
[10:16] <eyequeue> verix, appears to be sapce-de;imited, though i've never tried it commas are ignored or not
[10:16] <hi_im_human_can_> people are very....sensitive to it.
[10:16] <hi_im_human_can_> here, anyway
[10:16] <hi_im_human_can_> its a little bulshit.
[10:16] <sproingie> how do i make metacity resize windows with alt-rightdrag instead of alt-middledrag?
[10:16] <krism> *counts down to the ban*
[10:17] <hi_im_human_can_> krism:  me?
[10:17] <crimsun> hi_im_human_can_: um, this is /completely/ off-topic for this channel, too. In the previous channels we've told you where and how to get assistance. Please do not spam in here again.
[10:17] <verix> by the way, what're the different modes for vga?
[10:17] <lens> easyubuntu is not working correctly and Automatix is giving a 404 error.
[10:17] <eyequeue> verix, someone had a good url i bookmarked, but it's not ubuntu-specific.  want it?
[10:18] <sproingie> verix: http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[10:18] <eyequeue> yeah, what he said ;)
[10:18] <sproingie> verix: ignore all the tables but the bottom one
[10:19] <verix> ahh, thank you :)
[10:19] <sproingie> i pasted it into my menu.lst as a comment
[10:19] <sproingie> keeps me from having to look it up again
[10:19] <zcat[1] > problem; sister in law has an ltmodem. I've installed the drivers and it dials ok but gnome modem-applet doesn't show up at all. Is there any other easy way to bring the connection up and down that will work with this modem?
[10:20] <verix> oh no wonder it doesn't really work that well
[10:20] <verix> there's no setting for something like 1400x1050
[10:20] <mohkohn> Is Apple Airport Xpress incompatable with ubuntu?
[10:20] <hi_im_human_can_> this place....is weird.
[10:20] <sproingie> verix: there's no vesa mode for that unfortunately
[10:20] <verix> hm
[10:20] <verix> would I be able to force something lower?
[10:21] <eyequeue> verix, trying to make us all jealous? ;) ;)
[10:21] <verix> no :P
[10:21] <sproingie> verix: you might manage it with a framebuffer, but it'd require driver-specific parameters
[10:21] <verix> hrm.
[10:21] <sproingie> verix: yah you could probably do with 1280x1024
[10:21] <verix> alright
[10:21] <offroadgeek> does anyone know if you can re-run the hardware detection utility that's in the installer?
[10:21] <sproingie> verix: personally i don't set my text consoles above 800x600
[10:21] <afief> I am not getting any 2D acceleration after installing the ATI binary driver
[10:21] <eyequeue> verix, gogle might be your friend too, if it's an issue there
[10:22] <sproingie> afief: how do you know you're getting 2d accel?
[10:22] <verix> yeah
[10:22] <sproingie> afief: you do need to change the driver line in xorg.conf from "ati" to "fglrx"
[10:22] <afief> sproingie: games that used to work fine are down to 10-20 FPS
[10:22] <sproingie> afief: the xorg driver won't help you for 3d and vice versa
[10:23] <afief> sproingie: tried that, gave me an error and couldn't start X server after that
[10:23] <ddonk1> DBO - ok, i rebooted, still same errors
[10:23] <pharcvde> does anyone here use amarok?
[10:23] <sproingie> afief: then you need to fix that error.  you can pastebin the error you got, though I'm not that good at troubleshoting X problems
[10:23] <DBO> ddonk1, which ones, the first set or the second set?
[10:24] <afief> sproingie how can i save the error? i mean X isn't working, no graphic utilities to use
[10:24] <tomlikestorock> what's a good batch image resizer?
[10:25] <jrib> tomlikestorock: convert (from imagemagick)
[10:25] <offby1> "convert", from the imagemagic
[10:25] <offby1> jrib: jinx
[10:25] <tomlikestorock> hm, I have to get imagemagick, too, then?
[10:25] <ddonk1> DBO - the sound juicer errors.
[10:25] <jrib> sudo aptitude install imagemagick
[10:25] <jrib> offby1: :)
[10:25] <Kaervek> Question:  I have multiple harddrives in my machine, and when they're all plugged in (sATA), Ubuntu fails to load and hangs.  Is there some documentation online I can read to fix this?
[10:25] <tomlikestorock> ah
[10:25] <tomlikestorock> cool
[10:26] <jrib> tomlikestorock: also, if you google for imagemagick, there site has some example so you can get the syntax down
[10:26] <DBO> ddonk1, hmmm, im sorry... im out of ideas... the fix I sent you has worked for others in the past
[10:26] <jrib> their*
[10:26] <ddonk1> DBO - ok, thanks for trying
[10:26] <Infern0o> Hi!
[10:26] <Khisanth> Kaervek: don't know any docs but did you make sure your power supply can deliver enough power?(don't know how many drives you have)
[10:26] <verix> damnit what was that apt-update thing or whatever for grub? I forgot
[10:27] <sproingie> afief: the error should be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:27] <Khisanth> update-grub?
[10:27] <verix> so apt-get update-grub?
[10:27] <Kaervek> Khisanth, Yes.  The drives worked flawlessly prior to installing Ubuntu.  I dual-boot (via GRUB) Ubuntu and WinXP Media Center Edition.
[10:27] <afief> oh that's long
[10:27] <Infern0o> I am a total linux noob, and i have just installed ubuntu. I've searched the forums, google etc but i can't manage to get the wireless working. Anybody in for some noob hlping? :D
[10:28] <Infern0o> pm ;)
[10:28] <sproingie> Kaervek: i'd try process of elimination, try removing multiple HD's until it works
[10:28] <TheWahbinator> !ndiswrapper
[10:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[10:28] <Khisanth> verix: oh no, I guess you were thinking of something else
[10:28] <verix> yeah, I was
[10:28] <TheWahbinator> just checking
[10:28] <verix> I didn't mean upgrading it
[10:28] <verix> I meant updating the menu.lst file I guess
[10:28] <Khisanth> update-grub is a seperate program
[10:28] <verix> ah
[10:28] <Infern0o> checking ;)
[10:29] <Kaervek> Khisanth, Furthermore, I would like to have one of the disks be Fat32 (the only way to read/write between linux and windows, yes?), but that would mean partitioning my 500GB harddrive into x-ammount of 32GB disks, right?  Perhaps another issue for another day...
[10:29] <Kaervek> sproingie, Well, Ubuntu boots with only the sytstem disk plugged in.  The problem starts when there is more than 1 disk installed.
[10:30] <eyequeue> Kaervek, i'm told there's an ext2 driver for windows
[10:30] <sproingie> Kaervek: how far does it get?
[10:30] <Foobal> Kaervek: if you don't need to boot from that disc in question you can also use ext2/ext3fs from windows
[10:30] <Kaervek> sproingie, It's almost as if Ubuntu doesn't know which disk to laod from.
[10:30] <Flannel> Kaervek: FAT32 can go up to 2TB, some older windows utilities can't go more than 137GB though
[10:30] <afief> sproingie i can't paste the whole file, firefox crashes when i try
[10:30] <Kaervek> eyequeue, I'm sorry.  Ext2? (my noobness shines through)
[10:31] <ddonk1> audio cds are over-rated anyway
[10:31] <sproingie> afief: you just need the lines from right after you set the driver to fglrx
[10:31] <Khisanth> there is also explore2fs
[10:31] <eyequeue> Kaervek, a different filesystem from fat32
[10:31] <Kaervek> sproingie, Um, I can't recall... a few lines in.
[10:31] <afief> sproingie, how do i know which lines those are?
[10:31] <eyequeue> Kaervek, it used to be the default for linux
[10:31] <Niomi> Kaervek: linux filesystem, serves the same purpose as ntfs or fat32 in windows
[10:31] <sproingie> afief: you might try clearing the file (cp /dev/null /var/log/Xorg.0.log) then trying again.  then copy it somewhere else, and set your config file back to something that works
[10:32] <Kaervek> Niomi, and it's accessible by both Linux and Win?
[10:32] <Khisanth> you can read and write to it pretty easily in windows and certainly in linux :)
[10:32] <afief> sproingie, will do
[10:32] <Flannel> Kaervek: most ext drivers for windows are borderline buggy
[10:33] <Kaervek> Khisanth, excellent.  I just need a place to store files from both Linux and Windows.  I'm in love with linux, but I'm simply not comfortable enough to ditch windows yet.
[10:33] <sproingie> Flannel: borderline nothing, they're just about guaranteed to bluescreen
[10:33] <Niomi> Kaervek: i have acessed either ext3 or ext2 from windows with a special application, not a driver.. i have not used it regularly, though
[10:33] <Jamo> where are apache2 logs?
[10:33] <verix> /var/log/httpd
[10:33] <ddonk1> stupid cds
[10:33] <verix> I think
[10:34] <jrib> maybe /var/log/apache2/
[10:34] <Flannel> Jamo: /var/log/apache2
[10:34] <eyequeue> Jamo, wherever your configs say, typically under /var/log/
[10:34] <Jamo> thx
[10:34] <Kaervek> Flannel, So, I can format one of my current drives from within WindowsXP to Fat32 and it will suppport the entire 500GB drive?
[10:34] <E_Jackyou_Later> who can help me install dapper on a usb stick?
[10:35] <Kaervek> Of course, if I can't boot with the drive installed, it's useless ;)
[10:35] <E_Jackyou_Later> well, is there some howto or so?
[10:35] <Niomi> Kaervek: http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs
[10:35] <Foobal> no, windows can't format it that big
[10:35] <Kaervek> Niomi, Thanks. *click*
[10:35] <Flannel> Foobal: yes it can
[10:36] <Foobal> when I tried the last time on larger disc, it simply wouldn't format as anything else besides ntfs..
[10:36] <Jamo> hmm, apache2 is failing to start for an unreported reason and there is nothing in the logs, any other ideas?
[10:36] <sproingie> fat32 on 500 gig is going to have some pretty huge clusters
[10:36] <Manderson>  I am missing multimedia systems selector in the preferences menu...any idea how I can get this back?
[10:36] <eyequeue> Jamo, df /var/log
[10:37] <eyequeue> Jamo, if it's full, that would explain it
[10:37] <jd__> does anyone know how I can get nubuntu
[10:37] <pale_horse> nubuntu ?
[10:37] <eyequeue> jd__, google does
[10:37] <wietz0r> How do I remove gdm from automatically starting ?
[10:37] <Jamo> nope not full
[10:37] <eyequeue> pale_horse, an unofficial variant
[10:38] <jrib> :q
[10:38] <DigitDuke> Hi there
[10:38] <jrib> wietz0r: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[10:38] <wietz0r> How do I remove gdm from automatically starting ?
[10:38] <jd__> nubuntu's website is not availible
[10:38] <wietz0r> thanks :)
[10:38] <pale_horse> nubuntu hasa 509 error on the site
[10:39] <wietz0r> jrib: Thanks man
[10:39] <jrib> wietz0r: np
[10:39] <jd__> is there any other way to download a copy of nubuntu
[10:39] <DigitDuke> Hi, can someone tell me why someone would want to run SSH on the very same server they're physically in front of?
[10:39] <Kaervek> OK, now I need to tackle this problem with multiple disks being installed and Ubuntu not booting...
[10:39] <Flannel> jd__: nubuntu is not supported by ubuntu, and we have no idea.
[10:39] <Kaervek> I'm going to reboot, see where exactly it hangs, and brb.
[10:40] <Flannel> jd__: there is a #nubuntu channel though, it seems
[10:40] <LeaChim> DigitDuke, so you can access that same server once you've wandered to the other side of the building/city/country/planet? :P
[10:40] <DigitDuke> Yeah, that's the cool thing about SSH
[10:40] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, to emulate remote access
[10:40] <DigitDuke> But why edit your /etc/hosts file?
[10:40] <DigitDuke> That would just enable internal SSH access.
[10:41] <jeekl> I'm having problems with starting hplip. Does someone knowhow to fix this? Output: http://pastebin.ca/89627
[10:41] <DigitDuke> What does remote access have that physical access does not?
[10:41] <azcazandco> anyone here familiar with compiling gimpshop?
[10:41] <DigitDuke> @ eyequeue
[10:41] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, different permissions perhaps
[10:41] <DigitDuke> Oh, okay.  I see - thanks eyequeue.
[10:41] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, some listeners may react differently on 127.9.9.1
[10:42] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, some listeners may react differently on 127.0.0.1, rather
[10:42] <DigitDuke> Okay
[10:42] <DigitDuke> Anyways, I'm trying to figure out how to open SSH access to the network.
[10:42] <DigitDuke> If I do "ssh root@192.168.1.1" then nothing happens
[10:42] <DigitDuke> It just times out
[10:42] <verix> is your ssh client set for root login?
[10:42] <jd__> Flannel, how would I join the nubuntu channel?
[10:42] <verix> by default it usually isn't
[10:43] <verix> err, ssh server
[10:43] <Flannel> jd__: /join #nubuntu
[10:43] <Flannel> DigitDuke: is your root account enabled?
[10:43] <DigitDuke> Probably not verix - I haven't configured SSH at all.
[10:43] <verix> ah
[10:43] <DigitDuke> Except for modifying the HOSTS file for internal SSH access.
[10:43] <DigitDuke> But hostname gives: digit
[10:43] <element> anyone here have experience with dual monitor setup?
[10:43] <jkp> does anyone know how to solve this error?http://paste.lisp.org/display/22700
[10:44] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, you can have your gateway forward port 2201 to 22 on 192.168.0.1 , 2202 to 22 on 192.168.0.2, etc
[10:44] <jkp> ive read the FAQ but am still  clueless
[10:44] <DigitDuke> Whereas hostname -f gives: digit.b5
[10:44] <Farhad> I can't google toolbar , why?
[10:44] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, port forwaeding will typically be via ip addresses not hostnames
[10:44] <DigitDuke> But I'm inside the gateway eyequeue, it's a local computer.  Shouldn't it respond without me having to set up a pinhole?
[10:44] <verix> ugh, is there any way to disable that annoying auto-click the mouse does after idling for a while?
[10:45] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, i can ssh to eyequeue@otherhost here
[10:45] <DigitDuke> Hmm
[10:45] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, otherhost either being a hostname that resolves or an ip address
[10:46] <DigitDuke> Yeah, but my Ubuntu Server IP is 192.168.1.1
[10:46] <exile> How do you start a program at startup without using the GUI?
[10:46] <DigitDuke> On the network
[10:46] <jd__> Flannel, I do not see a channel for #nubuntu
[10:46] <jenda> Can someone tell me why my Azureus is only showing a blank window?
[10:46] <DigitDuke> And I am, on the network, trying to access that via SSH on my mac with: ssh frimjon@192.168.1.1
[10:46] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, okat, what is the ip address of the machine you're trying to access?
[10:46] <DigitDuke> And it just times out with: Connection closed by 192.168.1.1
[10:46] <DigitDuke> The IP of the machine is 192.168.1.1
[10:47] <clarknova> Is there a good tutorial on setting up pcmcia wifi cards?
[10:47] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, okay, is frimjon a valid account on that box?
[10:47] <DigitDuke> Yes
[10:47] <zcat[1] > problem; sister in law has an ltmodem. I've installed the drivers and it dials ok but gnome modem-applet doesn't show up at all. Is there any other easy way to bring the connection up and down that will work with this modem?
[10:47] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, and does that box run ssh-server?
[10:47] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, ssh-client and ssh-server are separate packages in ubuntu
[10:47] <DigitDuke> Yes, I did "apt-get install ssh openssh-server"
[10:47] <wildechild> I changed my theme and now i can log onto my gnome desktop any suggestions?
[10:48] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, you're on the box right now?
[10:48] <DigitDuke> No, I'm on my Mac.
[10:48] <Flannel> jd__: alright, then there's no one in it.
[10:48] <DigitDuke> Which is trying to access the Ubuntu server.
[10:48] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, try this for me, and only paste the very last error line
[10:48] <DigitDuke> Okay eyequeue
[10:48] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, "telnet localhost 22"  (the 22 is important)
[10:49] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, then we'll try "telnet 192.168.1.1 22"  (the 22 is important)
[10:50] <jeekl> No one who can help me with hplip? http://pastebin.ca/89627
[10:50] <martianul`> hello
[10:50] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, this means there's no active listener accessible on the specified port (22):  "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused"
[10:51] <DigitDuke> Well, it went off.
[10:51] <DigitDuke> But it's not showing any response at all at the moment.
[10:51] <DigitDuke> Looks like it's just awaiting a timeout.
[10:51] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, you got those errors?  okay, it's wating for an ssh handshake then
[10:51] <DigitDuke> I got no errors so far.
[10:52] <martianul`> i have a minor question :)
[10:52] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, ^C is and issue this command instead:  "ssh -v localhost" but don't paste here, heh
[10:52] <eyequeue> martianul`, i'm an adult, but ask anyway ;)
[10:53] <martianul`> lol :) oky
[10:53] <martianul`> now i am downloading Ubuntu and i have some question
[10:53] <martianul`> *questions
[10:53] <martianul`> i have an old pentium2 ... intel celeron 266 MHZ ... ubuntu will run on it? :D
[10:53] <DigitDuke> eyequeue: The former command gave me Connection closed by foreign host.
[10:53] <eyequeue> martianul`, sure
[10:53] <martianul`> thanks
[10:54] <DigitDuke> eyequeue: The latter asked for a root password.
[10:54] <DigitDuke> After asking for a confirmation that I wanted to connect.
[10:54] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, you're running the ssh command as root then?
[10:54] <element> 800 people here and no one can help with dual monitors? :(
[10:54] <martianul`> and what are the minimum requirements needed for ubuntu ...
[10:54] <DigitDuke> Yes eyequeue
[10:54] <DigitDuke> No, I'm sorry... it didn't ask for a root password eyequeue
[10:54] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, okay, i'd presumed you'd use your user account
[10:54] <DigitDuke> It just asked for a login
[10:55] <dxdemetriou> After the burning of cd or dvd, is there any gui or command line program that can verify the media?
[10:55] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, give it your user password and you should be in, successfully
[10:55] <DigitDuke> Hey, cool... thanks!
[10:55] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, it gwve you lines of "gibberish" first, right?
[10:55] <zcat[1] > problem; sister in law has an ltmodem. I've installed the drivers and it dials ok but gnome modem-applet doesn't show up at all. It works if I point it to /dev/ttyS0 or whatever but when I point the connection to /dev/modem it just sits there chewing CPU time. Any suggestions?
[10:55] <martianul`> eyequeue ... thanks for the help if i gonna have more question i will come back ... and sry 4 my english :D
[10:56] <DigitDuke> Gibberish?
[10:56] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, those handshaking lines would have told us where it failed, if it did ... g;ad it didn't
[10:56] <DigitDuke> You mean before I log in?
[10:56] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, right
[10:56] <DigitDuke> Yeah, a lot of debug1s
[10:56] <Farhad> When I click on "Agree and Install " in google toolbar , nothing happens. I use ubuntu
[10:56] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, now "exit" to get out of the ssh session, and the "normal" command is "ssh localhost" without the -v
[10:56] <ironfroggy_LT> are there advantages to running ubuntu/kubuntu on a server over regular debian?
[10:57] <ironfroggy_LT> or are the advantages all desktop related?
[10:57] <DigitDuke> Okay, one moment.
[10:57] <E_Jackyou_Later> is it hard to install ubuntu on a usb pen?
[10:57] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, next i need you to try it as "ssh 192.168.1.1" just to verify it is listening on more than 127.0.0.1 (localhost)
[10:57] <bakert> ironfroggy_LT, better hardware support perhaps?  more recent software in repositories?  depends what you are running it on.  i used to use breezy for my webserver.  very nice.
[10:58] <Farhad> Now , what should I do?
[10:58] <bakert> Farhad, what are you trying to do?
[10:58] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, but it seems to me your ubuntu box is behaving as it should
[10:58] <bakert> Farhad, install google toolbar?
[10:58] <Barbelos> How do I get colored output in the console (using konsole)? At the moment all sorts of files and directories are showing in one colour
[10:58] <Farhad> bakert, yes
[10:58] <Kaervek> OK, here's what I get when Ubuntu hangs while having more than 1 harddisk installed:
[10:58] <ironfroggy_LT> bakert: ive just got an old box i want to run a small webserver and file shares from, and i also want to get away from gentoo on my desktop. id like to have the same distro on both, for ease of administration.
[10:58] <DigitDuke> It probably is.
[10:59] <bakert> Farhad, system requirements says Red Hat Linux only ... perhaps thats the problem?  i've not tried it
[10:59] <Kaervek> The hang occurs at "Mounting root file system" and "Waiting for root file system."
[10:59] <bakert> ironfroggy_LT, ubuntu is definitely a good choice for your purposes
[10:59] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, what ssh client does the mac run?  openssh?   does it have a -v switch for verbosity?
[10:59] <DigitDuke> But wouldn't I have to enable something before using it on the network?
[10:59] <DigitDuke> Yup
[10:59] <ardchoille> ironfroggy_LT: I used an Ubuntu box for that purpose and it worked quite well.
[10:59] <DigitDuke> It has a -v
[11:00] <Kaervek> after approximately 5 minutes, I get dropped to a shell:  "[39.907815]  PCI: Cannot allocate resources region 3 of device 0000:05:00:0"
[11:00] <DigitDuke> I'll paste you the errors
[11:00] <DigitDuke> One sec
[11:00] <dxdemetriou> Nobody can help how can I check the burned cd/dvd if is written correct? I am using the md5, but isn't there a program?
[11:00] <Kaervek> "ALERT! /dev/sda5 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[11:00] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, IF it's listening on the 192.168.1.1 interface, that's the network interface
[11:00] <Kaervek> That's it.
[11:00] <bakert> Farhad, do you get the yellow bar at the top that says Firefox prevented this site blah blah?
[11:00] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, it it's more than two lines, paste them instead to pastebon, not the channel please
[11:00] <ironfroggy_LT> ok another question then. can i install ubuntu or kubuntu without a full desktop session to launch the install? my server box is older and doesnt have a lot of memory. running it from the CD is seriously taking almost an hour just to get the install program open.
[11:01] <Farhad> bakert, no
[11:01] <eyequeue> !pastebin > DigitDuke
[11:01] <DigitDuke> There's a pastebot here?
[11:01] <DigitDuke> Yeah
[11:01] <DigitDuke> I'm putting it on Pastebin
[11:01] <DigitDuke> It's a bit slow
[11:01] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, thanks
[11:01] <IseeIsee> is ftp download faster than an http download ?
[11:01] <ardchoille> ironfroggy_LT: You can install from the Alternate CD, it has a text-based installer
[11:01] <eyequeue> IseeIsee, i've found the opposite
[11:01] <IseeIsee> why do they have ftp's then ?
[11:01] <Farhad> bakert, where r u from? Iran?
[11:02] <ironfroggy_LT> isnt it silly to not include that already?
[11:02] <eyequeue> IseeIsee, old habits die hard?
[11:02] <IseeIsee> oh
[11:02] <DigitDuke> Warning: unlink(/home/pastebin/public_html/../cache/recent): No such file or directory in /home/pastebin/lib/pastebin/db.mysql.class.php on line 243
[11:02] <DigitDuke> Great
[11:02] <DigitDuke> Lucky day
[11:02] <ironfroggy_LT> hmm.. well, its finally displaying the first step in the install dialog.
[11:02] <IseeIsee> is anyone working here on Google SOC ?
[11:02] <bakert> Farhad, no ... London, England, UK ... Google toollbar installs fine for me ... but only after I "allow" installs from tools.google.com with that yellow bar at the top of the page
[11:02] <eyequeue> IseeIsee, also, some people only have access to one or the other, either via client or blick ports, or something
[11:02] <ironfroggy_LT> does the live CD use swap partitions on the harddrives?
[11:03] <Kaervek> Does anybody see anything helpful in what I've posted?
[11:03] <offby1> ironfroggy_LT: I doubt it
[11:03] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, you can /query me in this case then
[11:03] <ironfroggy_LT> no wonder its taking so long
[11:03] <ironfroggy_LT> im running on a box with only 128 megs of ram, and the CD rom broke so i had to stick in an old 4x
[11:03] <offby1> ironfroggy_LT: I suspect the live CD doesn't use swap _at all_.  That wouldn't make it slow, though; it would just make it more likely to fail utterly.
[11:03] <DigitDuke> http://rafb.net/paste/results/b06bXv75.html
[11:04] <Farhad> the toolbar doesn't appear for me
[11:04] <UncleD> In crontab, how do I make something run at 1:10PM each day?
[11:04] <Farhad> bakert, the toolbal doesn't appear for me
[11:04] <riddlebox> is there any way to tell apt-get, or the update-manager not to update certain packages?
[11:04] <bakert> Farhad, have you closed all firefox windows and restarted?
[11:04] <ironfroggy_LT> offby1: swap can be used, for example, to cache binaries and shared libraries, which would be far faster than from CD.
[11:04] <lassegs> whats the name of the xgl help channel?
[11:05] <pale_horse> #xgl
[11:05] <DigitDuke> You should learn that, UncleD: http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html
[11:05] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:05] <bakert> ironfroggy_LT, do you not have a good enough connection to download the official server cd ... might be better suited???  not actually sure what the difference is but i'm sure ubuntu.com would tell you ...
[11:05] <crogue5> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:05] <offby1> if you say so
[11:05] <Seveas> !xgl > lassegs
[11:05] <DigitDuke> Chances are that you'll use it sometime later
[11:05] <lassegs> thx
[11:05] <lassegs> !xgl
[11:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:05] <fiveiron> how would I change a users default group?
[11:06] <ironfroggy_LT> bakert: yeah but ive already been trying to install this for almost an hour
[11:06] <bakert> ironfroggy_LT, fair enough
[11:06] <DigitDuke> 10 13 * * * root echo "This command is run daily at 13:10 pm"
[11:06] <ironfroggy_LT> offby1: whats the staring for, exactly?
[11:06] <DigitDuke> 1:10pm
[11:07] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, this bit about realms for numeric ips, this may be a mac thing?  i don't recognize it
[11:07] <Kaervek> Can anybody continue to help me with my problem?  Ubuntu boot hangs when more than 1 harddrive installed.
[11:07] <UncleD> DigitDuke: Is there a log that would show up in?
[11:07] <Lobster> n8
[11:07] <riddlebox> Kaervek, I have 2 hard drives on my setup and it worked fine
[11:07] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, if so, add some hostname and 193.168.1.1 line to their equivalent of /etc/hosts and try using a hostname?
[11:07] <offby1> ironfroggy_LT: my blank stares usually mean "I haven't the foggiest idea"
[11:08] <Kaervek> riddlebox, Are you dual-booting?
[11:08] <riddlebox> Kaervek, nope
[11:08] <ironfroggy_LT> offby1: didnt know if it was that or that im trying to install with a 4x speed CD drive.
[11:08] <Kaervek> riddlebox, I am, and I'm thinking that might be having a negative effect on why it won't boot.  Maybe not.
[11:08] <DigitDuke> eyequeue: I've no idea
[11:08] <DigitDuke> Lag?
[11:08] <Farhad> bakert, i restarted firefox and runned it as root, but nothing changed
[11:09] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, that is at least what i'd try next
[11:09] <DigitDuke> /etc/hosts on my mac?
[11:09] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, yes, or whatever the equivalent is
[11:09] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, daewin/osx is allegedly rather unixy
[11:09] <eyequeue> daRwin
[11:09] <bakert> Farhad, does the toolbar appear under Tools, Extensions?
[11:09] <riddlebox> Kaervek, so you have ubuntu installed, its just not booting ubuntu, or both os's
[11:09] <DigitDuke> It is, it's the same.
[11:10] <Kaervek> riddlebox, I have Ubuntu on a 20GB partition, WinXP MCE on a 50GB partition and a 4GB swap on my 74GB raptor.
[11:10] <Farhad> bakert, no
[11:10] <Kaervek> riddlebox, Well it boots when I remove my other harddrives from the board.
[11:10] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, we have established that the error is only from the mac box, that the ubuntu box both listens and accepts ubuntu connections
[11:11] <DigitDuke> What the devil
[11:11] <Kaervek> riddlebox, when I instal the other drives (2x 160GB; 1 500GB) Ubuntu hangs at "Waiting for root filesystem."  After about 5 minutes, I get dropped to a shell with the following: "ALERT! /dev/sda5 does not exist."
[11:11] <DigitDuke> Holy crap
[11:11] <DigitDuke> Just as soon as I added the hostname entry the whole thing clicked in
[11:11] <DigitDuke> And the funny thing, it worked for the IP address.
[11:11] <Kaervek> riddlebox, when all the drives are installed, WinXP boots fine.
[11:11] <bakert> Farhad, when you go to google.com/toolbar and click Install Now do you see this: http://bluebones.net/google-toolbar-install.png
[11:11] <bakert> ??
[11:11] <DigitDuke> It may be because I had the same hosts entry on the Ubuntu
[11:12] <DigitDuke> And it somehow recognised it.
[11:12] <^THE_HAMMER^> hey all is there a media player i can get that plays divx files?ive gotten every update for media through the update add/remove programs installed and nothing will play a divx movie :(
[11:12] <Flannel> !divx
[11:12] <bakert> Farhad, "Agree and Install" not "Install Now" -- same thing
[11:12] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, all works now though?
[11:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:12] <DigitDuke> This is sweet!
[11:12] <DigitDuke> Yup, it does.
[11:12] <DigitDuke> Thanks eyequeue
[11:12] <DigitDuke> I really really appreciate it
[11:12] <DigitDuke> No longer moving monitor plugs
[11:12] <Kaervek> riddlebox, it's as if Ubuntu can't differentiate between the drives and doesn't know where the root filesystem is located when there is more than 1 drive.
[11:13] <ace200> www.getautomatix.com if you need media codecs
[11:13] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, if you ever want it TO accept root logins btw, you'll need to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restart the daemon
[11:14] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, yeah, remote access to "local" machines is sweet, my laptop is currently the only working monitor i own, lol
[11:14] <DigitDuke> Okay
[11:14] <DigitDuke> Thanks a lot eyequeue
[11:14] <DigitDuke> I really appreciate it
[11:14] <Farhad> bakert, nothing happns when i click the "Agree and Install" button
[11:14] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, glad to be of assistance, i'm somewhat of a crypto freak, heh
[11:14] <blackline> I found this guide for installing Nvidia drivers for Breezer.. I got 6.0.6, will this guide work for me?
[11:15] <blackline> sorry, link is http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy
[11:15] <Flannel> !nvidia
[11:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:15] <azcazandco> hello folks, anyone able to help me compile a couple of apps?
[11:15] <Flannel> blackline: use that one
[11:15] <ace200> www.getautomatix.com for nvidia too
[11:15] <Flannel> ace200: no.  Wrong.
[11:15] <azcazandco> I am still a newb and unsure of what to do
[11:15] <Gassed> My desktop doesnt work , after login there is no wallpaper and there is no right click menu
[11:16] <^THE_HAMMER^> is there an apt-ghet command for divx players?
[11:16] <Gassed> My desktop doesnt work , after login there is no wallpaper and there is no right click menu
[11:16] <sepehre> hi, my gnome Default Sound Card has somehow been reset to my digital camera, and when switching it back to the actual sound card, the setting doesn't save, what should I do?
[11:16] <bakert> Farhad, you don't get the yellow bar that says, "To protect your computer ..." as in this picture: http://bluebones.net/yellow-bar.png ???
[11:17] <^THE_HAMMER^> !divx
[11:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:17] <Kaervek> Nobdy has any info as to why Ubuntu fails to load with multiple harddisks installed?  I'm dual-booting via GRUB.  WindowsXP boots fine.
[11:17] <blackline> Flannel - Ok, caus when I do the first step i get error that says: nvidia-glx: Conflicts: nvidia-settings but 1.0-3ubuntu7 is to be installed
[11:17] <blackline> E: Broken packages
[11:17] <Gassed> My desktop doesnt work , after login there is no wallpaper and there is no right click menu
[11:17] <rendo> How do I recursively change a folders owner?  I tried using nautilus but it only does a single file/folder at a time, not everything in the folder.
[11:17] <Flannel> rendo: why do you need to do that?
[11:17] <Farhad> bakert, no
[11:17] <Gassed> My desktop doesnt work , after login there is no wallpaper and there is no right click menu
[11:17] <bakert> rendo, chmod -R from a terminal
[11:18] <rendo> Chmod -R what though?
[11:18] <Flannel> no, wait.  rendo, why?
[11:18] <Flannel> and, it's chown, not mod.
[11:18] <Gassed> r=recursive i think
[11:18] <Gassed> chmod -r 777?
[11:18] <Gassed> oh
[11:18] <bakert> rendo, oops yes chown
[11:18] <Gassed> My desktop doesnt work , after login there is no wallpaper and there is no right click menu
[11:18] <Flannel> rendo: WHY are you changing owners?
[11:18] <riddlebox> Kaervek, so xp is /dev/hda1 I assume, can you boot into the livecd and see what options grub is using to try to boot ubuntu
[11:18] <Farhad> gavagai, hi
[11:19] <rendo> Why does it matter?
[11:19] <rendo> I made a mistake with something and I'm changing a file over to whom it needs to be.
[11:19] <bakert> Farhad, are you definitely in Firefox and not Epiphany or something similar?  Try Help, About just to be sure!
[11:19] <Flannel> rendo: because you can screw up your system that way
[11:19] <KenSentMe> When i try running several programs from terminal, is sometimes get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18180 . The programs all run fine, but what causes this error?
[11:19] <bakert> Farhad, getting desperate here!
[11:19] <rendo> It's nothing with the OS.
[11:19] <rendo> It's personal files.
[11:19] <eyequeue> chmod -r tends to be rather unwise
[11:19] <Kaervek> riddlebox, I can do that. By "options grub is using," what should I keep an eye out for?
[11:19] <Flannel> rendo: alright, as long as it's user stuffs, and not OS stuffs ;) we get those questions a lot "I can't edit anything in /etc/, how do I chmod it?"
[11:19] <eyequeue> rendo, a directory has different meanings for chmod values than a file does
[11:20] <riddlebox> Kaervek, I mean you have to look at /etc/grub/menu.lst and see how it is trying to boot ubuntu
[11:20] <ledil> hello, im having probs with my lang and dont know where to start ...
[11:20] <bakert> rendo, chown not chmod to change owners -- sorry for causing the confusion
[11:20] <bakert> !
[11:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:20] <ledil> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[11:20] <ledil>         LANGUAGE = "de_DE:de:en_GB:en",
[11:20] <ledil>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[11:20] <ledil>         LANG = "de_DE@euro"
[11:20] <Kaervek> riddlebox, OK.  Give me a few minutes to boot up...
[11:20] <eyequeue> rendo, "transversable" != "executable"
[11:20] <ernz> Hi peeps, can anyone explain why my search (CTRL + F) function isn't returning files that I KNOW are on the computer?
[11:20] <bakert> ledil, what program?
[11:20] <Farhad> bakert, firefox 1.5.0.3
[11:20] <riddlebox> Kaervek, I will be cooking, so I will be in and out, you can pm me if you want, then I will see it for sure
[11:21] <bakert> Farhad, well ... you got me ... no more ideas i'm afraid :(
[11:21] <rendo> Thank you.
[11:21] <ledil> bakert: everytime im running perl
[11:21] <santa_> !multimedia
[11:21] <Kaervek> riddlebox, outstanding.  thanks alot for your patience...
[11:21] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[11:21] <Kaervek> brb
[11:21] <santa_> !w32codecs
[11:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:22] <bakert> ledil, even if you run: perl -e 'print "hi\n"' in a terminal?
[11:22] <bakert> ledil, (include all the quotes)
[11:22] <Farhad> bakert, anyway, thnx for your help, but sorry for that, can I have ur email address please?
[11:22] <ernz> I am using Nautilus, if that makes any difference??
[11:22] <bakert> Farhad, bakert+ubuntu@gmail.com
[11:22] <element`> once I've edited my xorg.conf, how can I reload X so it shows the changes?
[11:22] <ledil> bakert: yes
[11:23] <DigitDuke> I love Gmail's + trick
[11:24] <DigitDuke> I wonder if that's possible to set up on your own mail server
[11:24] <eyequeue> element, you mean something like "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" ?
[11:24] <element`> anyone?
[11:24] <Rez> DigitDuke: yeah, I do that all the time.
[11:24] <Farhad> bakert, bye and again thnx
[11:24] <DigitDuke> Use Gmail's + or set it up on your own mail server?
[11:24] <bakert> DigitDuke, it's part of the RFC for internet email .. nowt to do with gmail ... although they do allow it
[11:24] <DigitDuke> Oh, I see.
[11:24] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, depends which smtpd, some accept it, some don't
[11:25] <DigitDuke> That's need.
[11:25] <ernz> Anybody?
[11:25] <DigitDuke> *neat
[11:25] <wietz0r> helo thar
[11:25] <bakert> ledil, there's a thread here that *might* be useful: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2005-January/025828.html
[11:25] <bakert> ledil, it doesn't mean much to me though
[11:25] <wietz0r> Does xorgcfg exist in ubuntu ?
[11:25] <KenSentMe> element`: type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart  or press ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:26] <DigitDuke> eyequeue: I logged into root with ssh by default without editing that file.
[11:26] <bakert> wietz0r, you mean like /etc/X11/xorg.conf ???  or something else?
[11:26] <DigitDuke> I just did a: ssh -v root@192.168.1.1
[11:26] <DigitDuke> Heh, don't even need the -v anymore.
[11:26] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, hmmm, they may have changed the defaults:  yes, i guess so
[11:26] <wietz0r> bakert: In gentoo, when you install xorg it includes this neato utiliti
[11:27] <wietz0r> bakert: just run xorgcfg -textmode and it will ask you bunch of questions about your hardware
[11:27] <wietz0r> and pump out a xorg.conf
[11:27] <DigitDuke> Being a crypto "freak", do you know about something I can read about enhanced SSH security?
[11:27] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, and no, the -v was just to diagnose your problem, for my benefit not to make the connection work
[11:27] <DigitDuke> Like using public and private keys to communicate
[11:28] <DigitDuke> That is: Use Mac's public key to authorise at the server.
[11:28] <poje> Umm, all of my titlebars have disappeared
[11:28] <poje> wtf
[11:29] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, for that, man ssh-keygen (i like dsa, but as long as it's protocol 2 keys) and then you use the ~/.ssh/suthorized_keys file in the target machine/account
[11:30] <english> hi
[11:30] <gnomefreak> poje: please watch your language
[11:30] <DigitDuke> Thanks eyequeue :-)
[11:30] <english> hey, i have question about ubuntu
[11:30] <Kayanduus> hey guys, anyone want to help me with my wireles network problem?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> english: just ask ;)
[11:30] <wietz0r> I just finished installing ubuntu server, what packages must I install to have a working xserver ?
[11:30] <Kayanduus> :P
[11:31] <ernz> :) Hi Again. My Reboot didn't work, and the forums are turning up nothing.
[11:31] <english> i am very confused
[11:31] <gnomefreak> wietz0r: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:31] <wietz0r> I tried just installing evilwm but it doesn't install any dependencies
[11:31] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, btw, always disable protocol 1, it has holes in the protocol, not just the software implementation of it (can't be bug-fixed, iow)
[11:31] <Meatwad> when I 'sudo  ifup eth1' dhcpdiscover looks at 255.255.255.255 instead of my devices gateway, how do i fix this?
[11:31] <wietz0r> gnomefreak: Will that install gnome ?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> wietz0r: yes
[11:31] <wietz0r> gnomefreak: I don't want that
[11:31] <gnomefreak> wietz0r: what DE do you want>?
[11:31] <wietz0r> gnomefreak: EvilWM
[11:32] <english> whats difference between ubuntu server and the other one on download page?
[11:32] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, if you connect with a -v and see "1.5" that means "2,1" is probably still in the sshd_config, an old and dangerous default
[11:32] <Kayanduus> i have an rt2500 network card, and it wont connect to my wireless network unless i say 'iwconfig ra0 key off' (have no WEP key), but that option doesnt work in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:32] <gnomefreak> wietz0r: xserver-xorg should give you what you need but its been a long time since ive done it that way
[11:32] <bakert> wietz0r, you get a similar thing with sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:32] <DigitDuke> Okay
[11:32] <bakert> wietz0r, i've been told it is better to run it outside X
[11:32] <DigitDuke> Thanks for the tip
[11:32] <corran> Meatwad: dhcp must go out to broadcast I believe
[11:33] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, tell the admin and make a friend :)  np
[11:33] <corran> Meatwad: as it may not be the gw running the server
[11:33] <DigitDuke> I'm more paranoid than I'll ever need to be.
[11:33] <gnomefreak> bakert: hes gonna have a hard time running that command
[11:33] <ernz> Please someone help please thank you please?
[11:33] <english> whats difference between ubuntu server and the other one on download page?
[11:33] <Kayanduus> i have an rt2500 network card, and it wont connect to my wireless network unless i say 'iwconfig ra0 key off' (have no WEP key), but that option doesnt work in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:33] <wietz0r> bakert: but, there is no "startx" command
[11:33] <gnomefreak> english: server install is text only when your done alternative is gui
[11:34] <DigitDuke> Hmm...
[11:34] <DigitDuke> What admin?
[11:34] <english> oh
[11:34] <Meatwad> corran:  i'm not getting a dhcp offer from broadcast though
[11:34] <wietz0r> gnomefreak: I hate gnome, wich is why I used server
[11:34] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, you scp your new key to the raeget machine/account, add it to the authkeys file, and log out, then next connect you should be in passwordless :)
[11:34] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, -v when testing things that don't seem to behave right
[11:34] <corran> Meatwad: then there is no dhcp server or something is miscofiged
[11:34] <corran> Meatwad: is eth0 ok?
[11:34] <chopchop_> hi, im having some troubles with fluxbox, after installed it via apt-get, i 'startfluxbox' but it says "cannot connect to xserver", im using xubuntu, any idea?
[11:34] <bakert> wietz0r, gnomefreak, a ha - i think we're at an earlier stage than i thought we were -- ignore me!
[11:35] <corran> s/micofiged/misconfiged/
[11:35] <Kayanduus> noone idea?
[11:35] <Kayanduus> i have an rt2500 network card, and it wont connect to my wireless network unless i say 'iwconfig ra0 key off' (have no WEP key), but that option doesnt work in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:35] <wietz0r> bakert: I installed xorg, and x11-common
[11:35] <wietz0r> bakert: But there is NO startx command
[11:35] <element> I'm having a heck of a time trying to setup dual monitors with nvidia-glx...anyone have some time to lend a hand to get this up and working?
[11:35] <eyequeue> DigitDuke, i meant the admin of a box you connect to that still says 1.5 protocol; (not mine or yours)
[11:35] <corran> wietz0r: did you rehash?
[11:35] <bakert> wietz0r, this is why we learn to embrace the defaults and gnome!!!
[11:35] <DigitDuke> Hee hee
[11:35] <DigitDuke> Yeah
[11:35] <Meatwad> corran:  eth1 is my wireless adapter, eth0 is not configured/not in use
[11:35] <wietz0r> bakert: Yes, no
[11:36] <wietz0r> bakert: I hate gnome
[11:36] <wietz0r> bakert: And there are packages for evilwm
[11:36] <wietz0r> bakert: there is NO reason why I should use the default
[11:36] <corran> wietz0r: you need xbase-clients probably
[11:37] <wietz0r> corran: thanks
[11:37] <chopchop_> any idea 'bout fluxbox prob?
[11:37] <wietz0r> corran: I had to install xdm
[11:37] <corran> wietz0r: or that is what it is in debian
[11:38] <bakert> wietz0r, i'm all for choice, don't get me wrong.  i have 5 desktop environments offering their services to me on boot.
[11:39] <sepehre> hi, how can I set my default sound card in gnome?
[11:39] <Infern0o> sudo tar xvzf ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz
[11:39] <Infern0o> sudo cp ipw-2.3-*.fw /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/
[11:39] <Meatwad> corran:  i'm connecting via wireless to a linksys router; i can see the wireless network via Wireless Assistant, but I can't seem to connect to it
[11:39] <Infern0o> as i said before i'm a total noob, and now i'm following this tutorial to install wireless (ipw2200) and i have to put these commands in the console... sudo tar xvzf ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz
[11:39] <Infern0o> but it doesn't work :s
[11:40] <sepehre> Infecto, that command decompresses ipw...tgz into a folder with a similar name
[11:40] <sepehre> you should probably make sure the folder is there, and move to the next step of the tutorial
[11:40] <Infern0o> it says
[11:40] <eyequeue> ipw2200, centrino, installed itself seamlessly and automatically here upon ubuntu install (a couple of versions ago even)
[11:40] <Infern0o> no such file or directory
[11:41] <Infern0o> eyequeue i see. . . hmmm the wireless isn't working here though :(
[11:41] <sepehre> Infern0o, then you need the file ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz
[11:42] <sepehre> do any of the previous steps say to download it from somewhere?
[11:42] <Infern0o> ah ok, i've downloaded a newer firmware then that :)
[11:42] <Infern0o> yeah
[11:42] <eyequeue> i never needed to install any firmware, see if the livecd works or not perhaps before jumping through too many hoops
[11:42] <UncleD> How do I echo the date?
[11:42] <sepehre> cool :)
[11:42] <UncleD> ie. echo 'date'
[11:42] <chaosite> UncleD: current date? IE, the output of date?
[11:42] <Flannel> UncleD: 'date'
[11:42] <Flannel> UncleD: just date.
[11:42] <Infern0o> so after xvzf should be the filename?
[11:42] <UncleD> I mean, how do I call 'date' from the "echo" command
[11:42] <eyequeue> UncleD, backticks
[11:42] <UncleD> ah
[11:42] <element> anyone?
[11:43] <sepehre> Infern0o, yes, that will unzip it into a folder
[11:43] <UncleD> eyequeue: thank you
[11:43] <eyequeue> UncleD, echo "the output of date is " `date`
[11:43] <Infern0o> ok i'll try
[11:43] <sepehre> sure
[11:43] <sepehre> anyone, How can I set my default sound card in gnome?
[11:43] <Infern0o> still no such file or directory... could this be because the archive is on my desktop?
[11:43] <sepehre> System > Preference > sound doesn't seem to save the option
[11:44] <eyequeue> UncleD, i use this often:   echo `whoami`@`hostname`:`pwd`
[11:44] <sepehre> Infern0o, well if it's on your desktop, you need to "cd Desktop" first
[11:44] <IraqiGeek> hi
[11:44] <sepehre> Infern0o, type in "pwd" to figure out what directory you are in now
[11:44] <Infern0o> haha lol, ok that explains a lot...
[11:44] <IraqiGeek> anybody here who has a notebook with the orinoco minipci wifi adapter?
[11:44] <sepehre> lol
[11:45] <raulcav> fffffff
[11:45] <Infern0o> ok, so what i could have done actually was just right click the file and press extract? :P
[11:46] <sepehre> sure, if you're in X and have that feature =P
[11:47] <tamale> hello!   How do I open mp3s over my windows networking share with XMMS?
[11:47] <Infern0o> ok, so now, what does this mean: sudo cp ipw-2.3-*.fw /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ ?
[11:47] <tamale> It doesn't appear to accept drag-and-drop
[11:47] <jennifer71> hello, Might I ask how do I install ndiswrapper on this ubuntu installation
[11:47] <sepehre> Infern0o, by now you've figured out that "sudo" runs the command that comes after it as "root = windows administrator"
[11:47] <Howitzer> i'm having big problems with a dvd of mine..
[11:47] <sepehre> cp is copy
[11:48] <Infern0o> ah ok
[11:48] <Meatwad> jennifer71: try sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[11:48] <sepehre> it basically copies files with that pattern name into /usr/lib/.....
[11:48] <Howitzer> It has .avi files from an anime show and there's all thius weird stuff going on with it
[11:48] <jennifer71> thank you Meatwad
[11:48] <sepehre> I gotta jet, but you should be fine =) just follow the steps one by one
[11:48] <Infern0o> ok
[11:48] <duckdown> Is there a way to set up a proxy on just a regular shell machine I have access to?  I run my BNC from it but I desperately need to set up a proxy (like socks5)
[11:48] <Howitzer> when i try to copy the .avi files to my HD it says it fails because of I/O errors
[11:49] <Flannel> duckdown: do you own the machine? or what?
[11:49] <duckdown> Nope, I pay for an account on it
[11:49] <jennifer71> Meatwad:
[11:49] <jennifer71> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:49] <jennifer71> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[11:49] <Howitzer> when i try playing the files with Totem it says it's a text-file it can't open it because it couldn't read from source
[11:49] <Flannel> duckdown: are you allowed to install your own software on it?
[11:49] <Tomatix> jennifer71, try ndiswrapper-utils
[11:49] <Howitzer> jennifer71, do you have the live-cd?
[11:49] <jennifer71> yes Howitzer
[11:50] <Howitzer> because the ndiswrapper package is on the livecd
[11:50] <duckdown> Flannel> well I mean I downloaded and am running irssi and a shroudBNC and stuff
[11:50] <duckdown> so I assume an easy proxy server i could as well
[11:50] <Flannel> duckdown: right, no reason you shouldn't be able to
[11:50] <edisk> Hi, I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience booting a ubuntu install off a USB drive on PPC
[11:50] <Howitzer> and you can't use the livecd as a repo, you need to browse to the directory manually and install it
[11:50] <jennifer71> Howitzer: how could i finf it then?
[11:50] <duckdown> great, can you reccomend an easy one flannel?
[11:50] <Howitzer> let me check where the file is :)
[11:50] <Flannel> edisk: yeah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[11:50] <tamale> how can i access a network computer from /   ?
[11:50] <jennifer71> Howitzer: thank you soo much
[11:50] <Flannel> duckdown: no idea ;)
[11:50] <duckdown> ahh ok thanks anyway
[11:51] <Meatwad> jennifer: sorry about that, there is ndiskgtk (graphical frontend for ndiswrapper)
[11:51] <Flannel> edisk: there's a "from USB" link, under advanced installation
[11:51] <jrib> I type sendmail myemail@somewhere.com but I never recieve the mail.  I believe this was working before.  What could be the possible reasons it isn't working now?  What would be the best way to debug this?  I have firestarter installed if that matters
[11:51] <edisk> Flannel: usually that relies on syslinux though, which doesn't work on a mac like this which uses open firmware
[11:51] <Ademan> are there any programs that stream (servers) that convert any file format into a single format (maybe mpeg, or ogg if there is an ogg stream) ?
[11:52] <Howitzer> jennifer71, do: 'cd /media/cdrom0/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper && sudo dpkg -i *.deb'
[11:52] <edisk> Basically I have a cd-rom but it overheats and goes on the fritz after about 10 mins. So being able to change the repository it's using away from the CD-ROM would be enough.
[11:52] <Howitzer> without quotes
[11:52] <erUSUL> jennifer71: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-*
[11:52] <jennifer71> thank you erUSUL
[11:52] <Howitzer> eh
[11:52] <Ademan> like a gstreamer based stream server that outputs ogg stream or something (i don't know if there is an ogg stream... but still)
[11:52] <gregg__> Ademan: you can use liveice or a similar software
[11:52] <Howitzer> how can you do that when you don't have an internet connection?
[11:52] <WouldWork> If I'm installing a program from a tarball, when I ./configure, should i have the tarball in the destination folder?
[11:52] <Ademan> gregg__ thanks i'll look into it
[11:53] <Howitzer> can i force a drive to eject?
[11:53] <jennifer71> Howitzer: were you referring to me?
[11:53] <santa_> !w32codecs
[11:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:53] <Howitzer> yes jennifer71  :D
[11:53] <Howitzer>  'cd /media/cdrom0/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper && sudo dpkg -i *.deb'
[11:53] <Howitzer> that should do it
[11:54] <Howitzer> (with the live cd in the first cdrom drive ofcourse)
[11:54] <erUSUL> jennifer71: no problem
[11:54] <tamale> how can i refer to my windows machine over samba via the filesystem ?
[11:54] <jennifer71> Howitzer: I have an internet connection through the Wired port right now, but as soon as i get wireless working, I can drop the wire
[11:54] <Howitzer> ooooh
[11:55] <jennifer71> Howitzer:  :P~~~
[11:55] <jd__> hello
[11:55] <Howitzer> i think the ndiswrapper-utils package in a closed repo
[11:55] <Howitzer> hmm
[11:55] <Howitzer> it isn't
[11:55] <skavenge> someone know why my opengl screensavers in kde are offcenter and only show on the top 3rd of the screen?
[11:56] <WouldWork> Anyone experienced with tarballs?
[11:56] <Axe_> Does anyone in here know if it's possible to run a program under wine that uses firewire port?
[11:56] <zcat[1] > !broadcom
[11:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[11:57] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me on one thing.  Someone told me to got apps>metacity but I cant find metacity
[11:57] <Infern0o> sudo tar xvzf ipw2200-fw-2.3.tgz
[11:57] <Infern0o> sudo cp ipw-2.3-*.fw /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/
[11:57] <Infern0o> still need help with this :(
[11:57] <Infern0o> the first line is ok
[11:57] <Infern0o> :)
[11:58] <Infern0o> i just extracted it
[11:58] <tamale> how do i open files over a samba network connection from a windows box?  (on my ubuntu box)
[11:58] <Infern0o> but the second line... i didn't even extract anything with the name ipw-2.3.....
[11:58] <erUSUL> wheels3572: metacity is the window manager of gnome . run it from a terminal but you should be running it already...
[11:59] <h4v0k> how do i unpack a jar file
[11:59] <gregg__> h4v0k: try unzip
[11:59] <Infern0o> sudo tar xvzf filemane ;)
[11:59] <Kaervek> How do I view the grub file to see how it loads linux?
[11:59] <h4v0k> k
[11:59] <Infern0o> in the right directory ofcourse
[11:59] <Infern0o> :)
[11:59] <Ademan> does liveice have a gui frontend?
[11:59] <wheels3572> What I see is applications >accessories games graphics internet office sound and video
[11:59] <h4v0k> damn rocket attacks
[11:59] <element> anyone have some time to help with a dual-monitor setup? I'm trying to get things working still...
[11:59] <Ademan> or icecast for that matter
[11:59] <gregg__> Infern0o: jar, not tar :)
[12:00] <markit86> Kaervek: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:00] <Infern0o> oh sorry ^^
[12:00] <jrib> related to my sendmail problem, syslog contains the following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18181  Is this something with my iptables setup on my box?
[12:00] <Kaervek> markit86: thanks.  riddlebox was helping me with figuring out my problem, but it would appear he's left :(