[12:24] <h3sp4wn> nixternal: Are you building libinstrudeo with cdbs ?
[12:24] <nixternal> im not trying to build it
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> You are only trying to build screenkast-0.1.2 but not the library it needs first ?
[12:25] <nixternal> im not trying to build either one now
[12:25] <nixternal> the libinstrudeo seems to be an issue with ubuntu
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> And issue with one of the ubuntu packages or just with the way libinstrudeo is built ?
[12:27] <crimsun> it's both
[12:27] <crimsun> we don't ship the linkable libraries for ffmpeg
[12:27] <crimsun> you need to have those built statically into libinstrudeo
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> And if I just took ffmpeg from debian-multimedia and used that it would possibly cause alot of dependancy type problems for people ?
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> (so hence would be a bad idea ?)
[12:45] <crimsun> h3sp4wn: considering marillat uses a different packaging scheme from ours, yes
[12:45] <crimsun> he provides linkable libraries
[12:46] <nixternal> xvidcap is a lovely screencast program by the way
[12:49] <h3sp4wn> crimsun: I won't do it then - I will just try to build it for sid (laptop has sid anyway)
[12:50] <crimsun> Debian has a very, very solid rationale for not providing linkable shared libraries: ffmpeg doesn't respect ABI at all, so providing them is useless
[04:03] <Hobbsee> hi all
[04:05] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee
[04:06] <Hobbsee> hey nixternal :)
[04:06] <nixternal> heh
[04:06] <nixternal> konvo?
[04:07] <Hobbsee> irssi
[04:07] <nixternal> ahhh
[04:07] <Hobbsee> i think i screwed the settings
[04:07] <nixternal> i installed some stupid script on my irssi and it killed my hilighting
[04:09] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:16] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: updating to latest dapper first
[04:17] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:17] <imbrandon> i'm about 5 minutes away from dist-upgrading voyager
[04:18] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: nice, so we can both kill our machines together.
[04:18] <Hobbsee> glad to see installing dapper2 didnt kill off my hard drive
[04:18] <imbrandon> heh
[04:18] <imbrandon> i'll still have my laptop if my voyager dies ;)
[04:19] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: oh yeah, when do you put voyager itno maitenence?
[04:19] <imbrandon> whenever i goto sleep, its not a scheduled time
[04:19] <Hobbsee> it was about my 2am, so....1600 UTC or so
[04:19] <abattoir> imbrandon: tell me how it goes... ;) i plan on doing 'it' soon. 
[04:19] <imbrandon> hrm i can start doing it at a scheduled time
[04:19] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ah okay.  1800UTC or so is good :P  i've definetly gone to bed by then
[04:19] <imbrandon> abattoir, me and Hobbsee are both doing "it" tonight
[04:19] <Hobbsee> if thta's okay by you
[04:20] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, yup thats fine with me
[04:20] <imbrandon> i'll make sure it dosent do it before then
[04:20] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: of course, if something's going to be left to build overnight, then i'll tell you
[04:20] <Hobbsee> hehe -that's my 4am - i really should be in bed by then!
[04:20] <abattoir> imbrandon: hehe, i'll stay tuned :) . thanks
[04:20] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, yup yup
[04:20] <Hobbsee> abattoir: we'll tell you :)
[04:20] <imbrandon> 1800 - 5 == 1pm here
[04:21] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ah okay
[04:21] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:21] <abattoir> i guess amd64 will be in a greater state of 'brokenness'... :(
[04:21] <imbrandon> 1pm i'm DEFINATLY asleep
[04:21] <imbrandon> abattoir, not really
[04:21] <abattoir> imbrandon: oh, that's good then.
[04:22] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hehe
[04:22] <Hobbsee> yeah, amd64 is likely nightmare-ish
[04:23] <abattoir> isnt Riddell one?
[04:23] <Hobbsee> abattoir: he is, but he's very busy and the timezones arent brilliant
[04:23] <Hobbsee> abattoir: he's very good in uploading my fixes though :)
[04:23] <abattoir> aah, ok.
[04:23] <abattoir> yeah, i've noticed ;)
[04:24] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:24] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, crimsun maybe ?
[04:24] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yeah, true.
[04:31] <Hobbsee> grumble grumble.  i forgot to delete a metapackage before upgrading.
[04:32] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: have the 5 min passed yet?
[04:33] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: good thing i didnt decide to screen in from your machine, while this is upgrading.
[04:33] <Hobbsee> hmm.
[04:36] <imbrandon> you can ssh in, but it will be rebooted when i get done upgrading so i wouldent build on it
[04:36] <imbrandon> atm
[04:37] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yeah, yeah, fair enough.
[04:39] <imbrandon> delete what meta package >?
[04:40] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: linux-image-386, linux-386, l-r-m-386
[04:41] <imbrandon> heh
[04:46] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: upgrading :)
[04:47] <imbrandon> mine too
[04:47] <imbrandon> we get to see whos brave and reboots first
[04:47] <imbrandon> heh
[04:47] <Hobbsee> whee.  and aptitude complains a lot, so i'm going to ignore it
[04:47] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:47] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: how do you scroll back in an ordinary console?
[04:48] <imbrandon> pageup
[04:48] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: page up doesnt work
[04:48] <Hobbsee> yeah, i usually do, but didnt this time
[04:48] <imbrandon> hum no idear then
[04:48] <Hobbsee> that works for irssi, doesnt seem to for a virtual terminal
[04:48] <imbrandon> hrm no idea
[04:48] <imbrandon> #ubuntu ?
[04:48] <imbrandon> heh
[04:49] <Hobbsee> could do
[04:52] <nixternal> you could try 'shift pageup' as well
[04:54] <Hobbsee> nixternal: good point.  still nothing.  tried random shortcuts along those lines.
[04:54] <nixternal> i have had issues in the past, especially when using irssi in konsole..with scrolling up
[04:54] <nixternal> you must be like me and hide "scrollbars", "tab buttons", and "toolbar"
[04:55] <Hobbsee> nixternal: virtual terminal?  doenst have such things
[04:55] <nixternal> ahh
[04:55] <Hobbsee> irssi scrolls up wherever i have it, which is odd
[04:55] <Hobbsee> nixternal: virtual terminal as in ctrl+alt+f1
[04:55] <nixternal> yup
[04:55] <nixternal> page up, or i believe shift+up arrow, or ctrl up arrow...can't remember
[04:56] <nixternal> but usually, the page up works for me in virtual term
[04:58] <Hobbsee> ah yeah...nice
[05:02] <Hobbsee> nixternal: shift page up and shift page dwon - not sure why it wasnt workign earlier.
[05:02] <nixternal> i did my magic, thats why 
[05:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:03] <abattoir> you guys know if ubiquity has an option for xfs?
[05:04] <Hobbsee> abattoir: i doubt it, but i dont know.  i'm not sure how much advanced stuff made it in
[05:05] <abattoir> Hobbsee: ok, thanks :)
[05:06] <imbrandon_> abattoir, check the qtparted for edgy ( thats what ubiguity would be using )
[05:06] <imbrandon_> *the changelog
[05:07] <abattoir> imbrandon_: guess i'll find out in a few seconds directly... :)
[05:07] <abattoir> bye
[05:08] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: lots of problems, it seems
[05:08] <Hobbsee> not sure if we've got X.
[05:30] <Hobbsee> this is fun :)
[05:30] <Hobbsee> wonder if it will work at the end
[05:32] <imbrandon> heh it did yesterday in the vm so lets hope not much has changed
[05:36] <abattoir> QtParted does have xfs support :), now to see if grub behaves...
[06:02] <Hobbsee> interesting...
[06:03] <Hobbsee> Riddell: the kopete version isnt being installed - obviously the kdenetwork version of kopete hasnt been disabled yet
[06:06] <abattoir> and... Ubiquity crashes... :(
[06:13] <abattoir> it *was* grub.... :'(
[06:14] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:14] <Hobbsee> darn :(
[06:14] <Hobbsee> abattoir: seems to be wokring okay here - edgy, that is
[06:15] <Hobbsee> not sure what's up with the kernels though
[06:15] <abattoir> Hobbsee: you have XFS+Grub ?
[06:15] <Hobbsee> abattoir: no
[06:15] <Hobbsee> no xfs
[06:15] <abattoir> Hobbsee: oh, ok, because they generally  arent expected to work well together, but read on a lp bug that it has been fixed...
[06:16] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[06:27] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[06:50] <imbrandon_> woot
[06:51] <imbrandon_> all SEEMS ok so far 
[06:51] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:51] <Hobbsee> nice?
[06:51] <imbrandon_> Sysinfo for 'voyager': Linux 2.6.17-5-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz at 2933 MHz (5874 bogomips), HD: 31/182GB, RAM: 355/1003MB, 104 proc's, 2.42min up
[06:51] <imbrandon_> very nice ;)
[06:51] <imbrandon_> fonts look a little diffrent for some reason but i'll figure that out later
[06:51] <imbrandon_> they actualy look better
[06:53] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: you planning to reboot anytime soon?
[06:53] <imbrandon_> nope
[06:54] <imbrandon_> you gonna test the building out ? heh
[06:54] <imbrandon_> brb
[06:57] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: i might to kpowersave and powersave.
[06:58] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: oh, did you like the usplash lol?
[07:00] <Hobbsee> pity lure isnt around
[07:01] <Hobbsee> he's mentoined all over this powersave changelog :)
[07:09] <imbrandon_> heh yea i seen the usplash a week or so ago 
[07:10] <imbrandon_> maybe more in the vm
[07:11] <imbrandon_> seems quite a bit faster too
[07:11] <Hobbsee> yeah, fortunately :)
[07:12] <imbrandon_> kubuntu meeting tomarrow ( 7 hours )
[07:12] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: today for me :)
[07:13] <imbrandon_> me too but i might nap before then for a little while
[07:13] <imbrandon_> so i can be sure and be nice and awake
[07:14] <imbrandon_> hahah Hobbsee put the cert thing up i dare ya LOL
[07:15] <Hobbsee> oh, that.
[07:15] <Hobbsee> heh, yeah
[07:15] <imbrandon_> ouch you know what i noticed, my firefox is brown like ubuntu, that wont do /me go's to see whats wrong with it
[07:15] <imbrandon_> moins raphink
[07:16] <Hobbsee> hi raphink 
[07:16] <raphink> hi imbrandon
[07:16] <raphink> hi Hobbsee
[07:16] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hehe. firefox-ubuntu - a new dep of firefox.
[07:17] <imbrandon_> ouch, thats not good, should be firefox-ubuntu|firefox|kubuntu
[07:17] <imbrandon_> err
[07:17] <imbrandon_> ouch, thats not good, should be firefox-ubuntu|firefox-kubuntu
[07:17] <Hobbsee> yeah, but there isnt a firefox-kubuntu currently, and there's no way of forcing firefox-kubuntu to be installed
[07:18] <imbrandon_> heh i'll find a way arround it and present it to Ridd*ell i'm not givin up my firefox nor am i dealing with icky brown/orange ;)
[07:18] <imbrandon_> nor should other kubuntu members ;)
[07:18] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: heh, true.  make a package, put it in, shouldnt be hard.
[07:19] <Hobbsee> Riddell's not unreasonable, after all.
[07:19] <imbrandon_> yup yup ;)
[07:20] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: well, we are the side project, at least at the moment
[07:36] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: kpowersave building now too :)
[07:37] <imbrandon_> nicr
[07:37] <imbrandon_> nice
[07:37] <Hobbsee> and that was me pulling out my netwrok cable accidently.  grr.
[07:43] <Hobbsee> hi abattoir :)
[07:43] <abattoir> hello Hobbsee :)
[07:43] <abattoir> Ubiquity just hates me :'(
[07:44] <abattoir> and it just fried my GRUB :(
[07:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:44] <Hobbsee> oh dear :(
[09:39] <Hobbsee> can someone else tell me whatever else i needed to add to the meeting?
[09:42] <omeow> A better frontend for ark.
[09:42] <crimsun> seaLne is now a kubuntu member, correct?
[09:43] <Hobbsee> omeow: feel free to add it
[09:43] <Hobbsee> crimsun: yep :)
[09:43] <Hobbsee> crimsun: how does one get on the backports team, btw?
[09:43] <seaLne> yep
[09:43] <Hobbsee> HA!  my stuff's longer than the entire contents of the meeting was before!
[09:43] <crimsun> Hobbsee: you apply.
[09:44] <Hobbsee> crimsun: to?  and what does it involve, ie, what testing goes on between the request, and the backport?
[09:45] <omeow> Hobbsee, still learning C++/QT ;)
[09:49] <crimsun> there, cleaned up the wiki page some
[09:49] <Hobbsee> omeow: yeah
[09:49] <crimsun> Hobbsee: to the ubuntu-backports LP team
[09:49] <Hobbsee> crimsun: right
[09:53] <crimsun> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackportsHowto
[09:53] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i was more interested in 
[09:53] <crimsun> it has to build unchanged in dapper
[09:53] <Hobbsee> oops
[09:53] <Hobbsee> yep
[09:53] <crimsun> there are exceptions made for versioning, but those tend to be scarce
[09:53] <Hobbsee> yep
[09:53] <Hobbsee> crimsun: is that all you guys basically do?  test that the edgy version that's mentioend in the bug report builds/installs/runs without major errors in dapper, and then backport it?
[09:53] <crimsun> we do that, but the requester has the burden
[09:54] <crimsun> s/he has to provide pbuilder/sbuild and dpkg logs
[09:54] <crimsun> we have to tread particularly carefully since Dapper is LTS
[09:54] <crimsun> for edgy-backports it won't be as stringent
[09:55] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i realise that, seeing as i've told a couple of people how to do backports :)
[09:55] <Hobbsee> yep, right
[09:55] <crimsun> as for the state of current backport requests, they're blocked on the buildd admins having the infrastructure in place
[09:55] <crimsun> hence none have been uploaded
[09:56] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ahhhh....why dont they have the infrastructure in place?
[09:56] <OculusAquilae> hi
[09:56] <Hobbsee> (my boss will be most annoyed if i go to work like this hehe)
[09:56] <Hobbsee> hey OculusAquilae!
[09:56] <crimsun> Hobbsee: they're waiting on the soyuz guys
[09:56] <Hobbsee> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings for everyone to peruse
[09:56] <OculusAquilae> I've finally uploaded a patch for bug #48103
[09:56] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ah, right
[09:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 48103 in katapult "Katapult don't start with swedish localisation" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/48103
[09:57] <Hobbsee> OculusAquilae: yay :)
[09:57] <Hobbsee> !info katapult edgy
[09:57] <ubotu> katapult: item launcher for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.1.2svn20060711-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 295 kB, installed size 2252 kB
[09:57] <Hobbsee> main.  bleck
[09:58] <crimsun> dapper, no.
[09:58] <crimsun> dapper is a frozen, released distro.
[09:59] <crimsun> oh, sorry, thought you meant a new version, not a bugfix
[09:59] <Hobbsee> OculusAquilae: seems that \sh_away was going to do the first patch upload of that, i'm not sure if you want to poke him to do it with the proper patch
[10:00] <OculusAquilae> Hobbsee: Ok, I'll do that
[10:10] <OculusAquilae> katapult in edgy seems to be damaged
[10:10] <OculusAquilae> and Mez got svn and bzr out of sync :(
[10:11] <OculusAquilae> because he is away
[10:11] <Hobbsee> OculusAquilae: Mez stepped down from linux-* stuff indefinetly
[10:11] <OculusAquilae> that's the problem
[10:12] <OculusAquilae> but before it was out of sync, too
[10:13] <Hobbsee> ah
[10:14] <Hobbsee> hi allee, will you be at the meeting tonight?
[10:15] <OculusAquilae> ah, kubuntu meeting today
[10:18] <Hobbsee> OculusAquilae: yep :)_
[10:19] <Hobbsee> OculusAquilae: check out the meeting log hehe
[10:21] <OculusAquilae> you remind me on something, I have to write a meeting-summary for kubuntu.de :)
[10:22] <Hobbsee> OculusAquilae: :)
[10:29] <Hobbsee> whee!  another amarok bug to fix.
[10:31] <Hobbsee> see you all later for the meeting
[12:05] <kwwii> moin
[12:05] <Riddell> morning kwwii 
[12:06] <kwwii> hey man
[12:06] <kwwii> there is a meeting this afternoon, or?
[12:06] <Riddell> yes, 13:00utc, I should send out a reminder
[12:45] <OculusAquilae> \sh: ping
[01:06] <imbrandon_> moins kwwii and Riddell
[01:06] <kwwii> howdy imbrandon_
[01:50] <mornfall> Riddell: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept/debian/adept_2.1.1.tar.gz if you like, fixes a bunch of RC bugs
[01:50] <mornfall> Riddell: it should land in debian shortly
[01:51] <Riddell> mornfall: great, thanks
[01:51] <Riddell> will need to wait until after Knot 1, hopefully I can upload this evening
[02:28] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee
[02:29] <Hobbsee> hi nixternal 
[02:29] <Hobbsee> hi Riddell, hi all
[02:35] <Hobbsee> hey imbrandon :)
[02:37] <nixternal> hiya jsgotangco
[02:38] <jsgotangco> good evening
[02:39] <imbrandon> heya jsgotangco
[02:44] <nixternal> i was wondering the same thing
[02:55] <Tonio_> hey
[02:55] <Tonio_> just at time for the meeting :)
[02:56] <Hobbsee> hi Tonio_ 
[02:56] <Tonio_> hi Hobbsee
[02:56] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting in 5 minutes #kubuntu-meeting
[02:56] <Riddell> #ubuntu-meeting
[02:56] <Riddell> rather
[02:57] <Hobbsee> okay, back in a sec then.
[03:01] <Hobbsee> i'm baack1
[03:02] <allee> hi
[03:02] <imbrandon> heya allee
[03:02] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:02] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hey now!  hopefully the meeting ownt be that boring to need it!
[03:03] <imbrandon> lol
[03:03] <allee> hi imbrandon: nervous? :)
[03:03] <imbrandon> me? nah .. never gets nervus  </scarcasim> ;)
[03:03] <imbrandon> hehe
[03:08] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: i'm crossing my fingers and hoping he doesnt...
[03:08] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: what would you have to be nervous about anyway?
[03:08] <imbrandon> heh
[03:08] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, no idea , lol ask allee ;)
[03:08] <imbrandon> heh
[03:09] <allee> Hobbsee: just a shot in the dark :)
[03:09] <Hobbsee> right
[03:41] <seaLne> nixternal: out of interest what was that charecter you just typed on its own line in #ubuntu-meeting? it dosen't show up for me properly
[03:43] <nixternal> is it a box?
[03:44] <nixternal> 
[03:44] <nixternal> or does it look like " with a big comma?
[03:55] <kwwii_> Hobbsee: and I cannot respond to a /msg without being identified
[03:56] <Hobbsee> kwwii_: i allow unidentified users messages
[03:57] <seaLne> nixternal: CD inverse
[04:01] <nixternal> seaLne: http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/tmp/smiley.jpg
[04:01] <nixternal> ^^ that is what i see
[04:04] <seaLne> nixternal: http://stuff.duffus.org/tmp/snapshot1.png
[04:04] <nixternal> wow, that is weird
[04:05] <seaLne> i was wondering what it was as you keep doing it :)
[04:12] <nixternal> ;)
[04:12] <nixternal> ok, old school is back
[04:30] <imbrandon> Riddell, are kio slaves considered a feature or program, i would like to try to get kio-sysinfo in edgy before sept 7 dealine
[04:31] <Riddell> imbrandon: new packages are fine
[04:31] <imbrandon> ok cool
[04:31] <imbrandon> have you seen kio-sysinfo from novell, its VERY slick
[04:32] <Riddell> not for more than a second
[04:32] <imbrandon> hehe ;)
[04:48] <nixternal> Riddell: just so you know, there aren't many changes for kubuntu doc merges, and the release notes are presently being created via jjesse
[04:49] <imbrandon> Riddell, whenever you come up with a time lemme know i'll poke the fridge ;)
[04:49] <nixternal> heh, i need to poke the fridge, im hungry
[05:02] <Riddell> kwwii: you anywhere near Weisbeiden?
[05:04] <kwwii> hehe, I just got off the phone with my travel agent to change my trip to america so that I can be there
[05:04] <kwwii> weisbaden is about 3 hours away from my home
[05:06] <kwwii> Riddell: I talked to Jane about the UI sprint and my trip
[05:07] <nixternal> heh, launchpad membership change, that was quick ;)
[05:07] <nixternal> thanks again everyone!!!
[05:08] <Riddell> kwwii: ui sprint?
[05:08] <kwwii> well, developer sprint 
[05:08] <kwwii> in late august
[05:09] <kwwii> was there another reason you ask?
[05:09] <Riddell> yeah, that was it
[05:14] <kwwii> Riddell: it is in my contract that I have to attend
[05:15] <Riddell> kwwii: I see
[05:20] <Hobbsee> nixternal: did you want to do the meeting minutes?
[05:27] <nixternal> i can do them if needed, sure
[05:29] <Hobbsee> nixternal: hehe!  thought you were
[05:29] <nixternal> i was enjoyin' the sun
[05:29] <nixternal> ;)
[05:58] <imbrandon> hrm Hobbsee ping
[05:58] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: pong
[05:58] <imbrandon> you have any icons on your desktop ?
[05:58] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yeah.  all the amarok stuff :P
[05:58] <imbrandon> right click on one and tell me what happens ....
[05:58] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: it's fairly slow to come up the first time, then comes up reliably after that.  the menu, that is.
[05:58] <Hobbsee> it happened due to hte kopete fix, which, incidently, Riddell, is versioned wrong.
[05:58] <imbrandon> hrm my desktop looses all icons and i get a wait cursor, just reporduced it a few times
[05:58] <Hobbsee> does the menu eventually come up though?
[05:58] <imbrandon> nope
[05:58] <imbrandon> nor do the icons
[05:58] <imbrandon> till i restart the session
[05:58] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: which kopete do you have?
[05:58] <imbrandon> what ever edgy defaults to
[05:58] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: you're bitten by the "kopete isnt versioned correclty in edgy" bug.
[05:59] <imbrandon> heh
[05:59] <imbrandon> kopete affects my desktop ?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yeah.
[05:59] <imbrandon> ouch lol
[05:59] <Hobbsee> the right click crash
[05:59] <Hobbsee> where have you *been* for the past few months.
[06:00] <imbrandon> i havenbt seen it till now
[06:00] <Hobbsee> heh, lucky
[06:12] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: dont reboot your machien :P
[06:12] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: it's compiling amarok
[06:14] <imbrandon> np i dident plan to for ~12 hours atleaste
[06:14] <Hobbsee> oops.  died off there.
[06:14] <Hobbsee> i keep pulling the network cable accidently.
[06:15] <imbrandon> heh
[06:15] <imbrandon> i think i'm goona go fire up the lappy and enjoy the sun a bit by the pool
[06:15] <imbrandon> brb
[06:16] <imbrandon> jesus its 38 C outside, maybe not
[06:16] <imbrandon> lol
[06:17] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hang on a sec.  if i detach a ssh session in screen, and turn my computer off, will the ssh'd machine keep doing what it was told to do?
[06:17] <imbrandon> yup
[06:17] <imbrandon> as long as you detach
[06:17] <Hobbsee> hey cool :)
[06:18] <imbrandon> detach and log out i'll tell you if its running
[06:19] <Hobbsee> hmm.
[06:19] <imbrandon> 12117 pts/1    S+     0:00 /bin/bash /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends --control ../amarok_1.4.1-0ubuntu3.dsc --internal-chrootexec chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/edgy/build//11606  --binary-all
[06:19] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[06:20] <Hobbsee> okay, reboot time.
[06:26] <Hobbsee> sigh.  the messy combination of knetworkmanager, wpasupplicant, ndiswrapper, and this marvell card are still buggered.
[06:27] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: i think i killed it
[06:28] <imbrandon> nope
[06:28] <imbrandon> its good
[06:28] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: okay, i didnt kill it, but i cant access it again.
[06:28] <imbrandon> screen -R 
[06:29] <Hobbsee> says new screen, and gives me a prompt
[06:29] <imbrandon> hrm ok one sec
[06:29] <imbrandon> but its still running http://pastebin.ca/90357
[06:30] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yeah, i see that. 
[06:30] <Hobbsee> oh well. i'll grab the result in the morning.
[06:30] <imbrandon> one sec
[06:30] <nixternal> Hobbsee: i have been working on YOUR agenda items for an hour now ;)
[06:30] <imbrandon> try 
[06:30] <Hobbsee> nixternal: haha.
[06:31] <Hobbsee> nixternal: which ones?
[06:31] <nixternal> all of them
[06:31] <Hobbsee> ah right.
[06:31] <imbrandon> screen -D -RR
[06:31] <nixternal> you should get a "Meeting/Minutes" just for your items ;)
[06:31] <Hobbsee> nixternal: heh
[06:32] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: what's the -RR do?
[06:32] <imbrandon> for reattach, or screen -list
[06:33] <Hobbsee> hmmm..right
[06:33] <imbrandon> if its on like
[06:33] <imbrandon> err -list 
[06:33] <imbrandon> do screen -r num
[06:33] <Hobbsee> nope, it's dead.
[06:33] <Hobbsee> the screen session died
[06:33] <Hobbsee> but the pbuilder will keep running, and that's all i care about.
[06:34] <imbrandon> yup
[06:34] <Hobbsee> oh yeah, gotta remember to drop in my car tomorrow...
[06:34] <Hobbsee> eek.
[06:34] <Hobbsee> er, today.
[06:34] <imbrandon> lol
[06:35] <imbrandon> bbiab lappy time
[06:40] <Riddell> sue them for trauma
[06:41] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:41] <Hobbsee> oh speak of the devil.  it semi-loaded.
[06:41] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings/2006-07-17     DONE!!!
[06:41] <Hobbsee> nixternal: yay!
[06:42] <Hobbsee> nixternal: people are suprised that i'm organising?
[06:42] <nixternal> gahahaha
[06:43] <nixternal> refer to the log ar 04:33, <Riddell> Hobbsee: you organising, yay!
[06:43] <Hobbsee> nixternal: ah right.
[06:43] <nixternal> had to have a little fun with it ;)
[06:43] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:44] <nixternal> time to go get some work done..bbiab
[06:49] <Hobbsee> night all
[06:54] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: if you happen to find the amarok debs on your system, do tell.  ps aux suggests that they're finished, but i cant see them
[08:27] <seaLne> what time is it looking like the next meeting will be at?
[08:27] <Riddell> woohoo, first edgy live CD works
[08:27] <Riddell> no anti aliased fonts but, wonder how I broke that
[08:27] <Riddell> seaLne: I need to e-mail everyone and ask
[08:28] <Riddell> ask for suitable times and find an overlap
[08:28] <seaLne> ah, trying to decide next behindubuntu meeting time :)
[08:29] <Riddell> seaLne: has the jane w interview been in the ubuntu weekly newsletter?
[08:30] <seaLne> fridge never published it
[08:32] <seaLne> so err thats a no for newsletter aswell
[08:32] <seaLne> my mail had also suggested mentioning mornfall's interview
[08:33] <seaLne> hmm did hobbsee go to bed?
[08:33] <Riddell> seaLne: fridge seems pretty well abandoned
[08:33] <Riddell> she did
[08:34] <apachelogger> do we already have a license for google earth? the package just works so well :D
[08:36] <seaLne> yeah its a pity fridge seems such a good idea, i might mail them and ask if its just a time to do stuff related issue
[08:37] <Riddell> I did warn whiprush of exactly that when he proposed the idea
[08:37] <Riddell> maybe it'll need new editors with jdub leaving
[08:37] <seaLne> ah he has left?
[08:37] <Riddell> end of the month
[08:38] <mornfall> what?
[08:38] <seaLne> fridge or ubuntu?
[08:38] <Riddell> Canonical
[08:38] <seaLne> oh
[08:39] <seaLne> mdz isn't about to is he? he is in the process of being interviewed :)
[08:40] <Riddell> I'm not sure, he said something about coming to England this week, but there's also a management thing in Spain he might be at
[08:42] <seaLne> my cmment on time for next meeting would be that i have behindubuntu meeting at 1730UTC tho i could probably survive with some overlap
[08:42] <seaLne> comment
[08:46] <ani_> Did anyone here try upgrading to edgy amd64? imbrandon?
[08:47] <mornfall> what's the matter?
[08:47] <abattoir> mornfall: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend debconf-2.0 for x11-common, probably a dependency cycle.
[08:47] <mornfall> that's not my fault now is it? :)
[08:47] <seaLne> one of my friends couldn't didt-upgrade on amd64
[08:48] <mornfall> what was with my interview, seaLne?
[08:48] <mornfall> what my interview?
[08:48] <abattoir> mornfall: no, didnt use adept at all, and i guess adept hasnt been 'upgraded' yet :)
[08:48] <Riddell> mornfall: on people behind kde I assume
[08:48] <ubotu> p2
[08:49] <mornfall> ah, nothing i should be worried about then i guess :)
[08:49] <abattoir> seaLne: may I know when this was? Hobbsee and imbrandon dist-upgraded i386 today, and it apparently went fine
[08:49] <seaLne> thursday or friday i think
[08:49] <abattoir> seaLne: i guess it was still 'broken' then. :)
[08:49] <seaLne> is it not now?
[08:49] <abattoir> seaLne: well, for me, yes :)
[08:50] <seaLne> ah i'll tell him, he only has vista currently on that machine, i'm sure he will be pleased :)
[08:51] <abattoir> seaLne: i meant, yes, its broken :P
[08:51] <seaLne> mornfall: yeah just the existance of your kde interview
[08:51] <seaLne> abattoir: ah err ok
[09:22] <apachelogger> so I have about 4 packages in revu no one looked at ;-)
[09:36] <kane__> !revu
[09:36] <ubotu> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[09:51] <apachelogger> which dh_* is responsible for the copyright file?