[12:08] <gatekeeper> larson9999: good news is the ScreenKasts seem to be high quality video
[12:08] <larson9999> gatekeeper: in the ones i saw, i thought the captions were indicated there wasn't any sound.  i'm kind of an earlier adopter of software.
[12:08] <larson9999> gatekeeper: yes they do.
[12:08] <larson9999> gatekeeper: whne i can get it compiled
[12:10] <gatekeeper> larson9999: your site?
[12:10] <larson9999> my site for what?
[12:11] <angasule> !vmware
[12:11] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[12:11] <gatekeeper> larson9999: woundered if you where the one that set up captorial.com?
[12:12] <larson9999> oh, no. i just saw the site and tried to get screenkast working.
[12:14] <angasule> how do I accept an EULA in adept?
[12:14] <angasule> vmware-player paused while installing, I clicked on "show details" and there is an EULA, but I can't accept it...
[12:15] <gatekeeper> larson9999: probable stupid question if you are having problems with screenkast, you should request a video howto compile screenkast :-) how can they not put it up if that is what they want you to use!
[12:15] <larson9999> gatekeeper: yes.  that's the first joke i made :)
[12:16] <larson9999> gatekeeper: of course it's true.  my suspicion is they made in on a different kind of system.  that uses different directories or some other issue that distros can't agree on so.
[12:16] <LjL> angasule: known bug in adept
[12:16] <LjL> angasule: use apt-get or aptitude
[12:16] <larson9999> the video wouldn't help us
[12:17] <angasule> gah, ok, thanks LjL
[12:17] <larson9999> ok. i have to go now.  my 5 year old is chomping at the bit to hit the beach.
[12:17] <angasule> umh, by the way, there is no 'cancel' button
[12:17] <Old_Fred> Can someone tell me how to get deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/ into the repositories in either synaptic or adept?
[12:17] <LjL> angasule: yeah, i guess just close adept, and "apt-get -f install" :-\
[12:18] <LjL> Old_Fred: i can tell you how to do that by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:18] <angasule> gaah, thanks
[12:18] <Old_Fred> ok... thats fine
[12:18] <gatekeeper> larson9999: time to start fire questions in screenKast forum if nothing else, and I think they definately want a HowTo video if they want people to use that software, it's not like anyone can use their package manager
[12:18] <LjL> Old_Fred: i.e. just edit it, and it'll be quite immediately clear how to add it :)
[12:19] <Old_Fred> that the only file that needs editing?
[12:19] <LjL> Old_Fred: though i'm not sure you can actually add http://kubuntu.org/packages/ -- i think you can add its subdirectories
[12:20] <gatekeeper> larson9999: good luck with it, and enjoy the beach, we had a fanatatic day in wales today, and it's time I went to sleep :-)
[12:20] <gatekeeper> night all
[12:20] <Old_Fred> good night
[12:20] <Old_Fred> thanks ljl
[12:22] <gatekeeper> Old_Fred: LjL parting gift :-) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[12:22] <Old_Fred> thank you sir
[12:22] <Old_Fred> :-)
[12:37] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody had tried installing xgl+compiz on Kubuntu - there's no compiz-kde package in the repos
[12:38] <crazy_penguin> i wish a good night to all! sleep well! :)
[12:38] <rysiek|pl> ooops, sory :0
[12:38] <rysiek|pl> cya crazy_penguin
[12:48] <klerfayt> rysiek|pl: I have tried it but failed. If I did understand correctly then you need to use GDM instead of KDM
[12:50] <ironfroggy_LT> For what reason would step 5 of the install (prepare disk space) have the continue button disabled?
[12:50] <ironfroggy_LT> It won't let me continue to the last step
[12:51] <duckdown> Are there any very easy proxy servers I could set up on a shell that I pay for?  I desperately need a good proxy and would like to quickly set one up without much trouble..  dante isn't working for me, I can't seem to configure it correctly
[12:52] <ironfroggy_LT> nevermind... back and continue again seemed to fix the problem.
[12:57] <nixternal> larson9999: check out xvidcap for screencasts...it is also on sourceforge and it works pretty darn well
[01:10] <sander> I did an apt-get update then apt-get upgrade, and the whole thing froze up. Now all I can get into is some sort of grub shell, which I can basically do nothing with. Can anyone guide me back to a normal state?
[01:12] <TheHighChild> sander: Did you do a dist-upgrade?
[01:12] <sander> no
[01:13] <TheHighChild> sander: Does Ubuntu start up? Or doesn't it make it past the grub menu?
[01:13] <jim__> hello jim the newbie again with an interesting question, when i use totem to watch a dvd it says i don't have the right plug in, so i went into synaptics and installed what i thought was all the appropriate dvd plug ins but it still is not showing any help?
[01:13] <TheHighChild> I know the GUI doesn't start but does it at least start the kernel
[01:13] <TheHighChild> jim__: You need libdvdcss package (spelling may be wrong)
[01:14] <sander> The grub menu is gone. I have no longer any optoins of choosing what I wnat to boot. All I get is the "grub shell"
[01:14] <jim__> can i get to libdvdcss from synaptics?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> jim__: no
[01:14] <gnomefreak> !seveas
[01:14] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:15] <gnomefreak> jim__: ^^^
[01:15] <jim__> how do i get it
[01:15] <TheHighChild> jim__: yes, you need to enable the universe and multiverse repos
[01:15] <gnomefreak> jim__: read ubotus post above
[01:15] <TheHighChild> !libdvdcss
[01:15] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:15] <gnomefreak> TheHighChild: no
[01:15] <gnomefreak> !libdvdcss is not in repos
[01:15] <ubotu> libdvdcss is already known...
[01:15] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:15] <gnomefreak> libdvdread is in the repos
[01:17] <TheHighChild> at any rate jim__ Those links should help you get started. I have libdvdcss2 in my repos, if you have more trouble, let me know and I'll try and work with you
[01:19] <jim__> thank you i will try
[01:21] <TheHighChild> sander: You can try to reconfigure grub 'dpkg-reconfigure grub' or you can reinstall it with 'grub-install /dev/hdlocation'
[01:30] <jim__> when i put in /etc/apt/sources.list from terminal it returns permission denied to download libdvdcss
[01:31] <jim__> can anyone help?
[01:33] <coachJ> how do you enable active X or the equivalient in Konquorer?
[01:33] <luksan> coachJ: ActiveX is strictly a windows technology
[01:33] <jim__> can someone help me download libdvdcss when i try it returns permission denied
[01:33] <coachJ> equivalient?
[01:34] <luksan> coachJ: depends on what you want to do
[01:34] <luksan> coachJ: what is it you want to do?
[01:34] <coachJ> this
[01:34] <coachJ> ail requires ActiveX controls to be enabled
[01:34] <coachJ> 
[01:34] <coachJ>  Your browser seems to be Internet Explorer, and ActiveX seems to be disabled. Gmail's standard view requires ActiveX to be enabled in order to operate.
[01:34] <coachJ>  To use Gmail's standard view, enable ActiveX controls in Internet Explorer. You can do this by going to the Tools menu, selecting Internet Options, Security tab, Internet zone, and either select the Default Level, or selecting Custom Level and scrolling down to "Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins" and selecting Enable.
[01:34] <coachJ>  After enabling ActiveX controls, try again.
[01:34] <Tommy2k4> whats a good c++ ide for beginners
[01:34] <luksan> coachJ: yeah, there is not "equivalent" because ActiveX controls are written specifically for the Windows API. It wouldn't work under Mac either, for instance
[01:34] <jim__> can someone send me libdvdcss?
[01:35] <coachJ> so cant use all the features od gmail
[01:35] <luksan> coachJ: GMail uses ActiveX ???
[01:35] <Drew3b> sudo apt-get --purge remove cupsys &amp;&amp; sudo apt-get install cupsys  <-----Yeaaaa!!! It really worked :-)  I have printer.
[01:35] <luksan> coachJ: are you spoofing your user-agent as Internet Explorer or something?
[01:35] <coachJ> yes that message above was from mt gmail acct
[01:36] <coachJ> might be identified as IE
[01:36] <jim__> can anyone point me in the right direction to download libdvdcss?
[01:36] <luksan> coachJ: to use GMail with Konqueror either spoof as firefox or use the URL http://mail.google.com/mail/?nocheckbrowser
[01:36] <dueyfinster> jim__: see www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:36] <coachJ> or use Firefox?
[01:36] <farous> !restrictedformats
[01:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:37] <farous> goto the restricted formats page for the libdvdcss2
[01:38] <coachJ> luksan--should firefox be able to spoof
[01:40] <coachJ> doesn't work
[01:41] <farous> coachJ: what are you trying to do for i have no problems here wigth firefox and gmail
[01:42] <jim__> farous where is the restricted formats page?
[01:42] <coachJ> your right firefox wors great
[01:42] <MasterEvilAce> of course it does
[01:42] <coachJ> its knoquorer that doesnt
[01:42] <farous> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:43] <coachJ> im good thks
[01:45] <abattoir> coachJ: to 'spoof' gmail w/ konqueror, you need to change its Browser ID
[01:45] <abattoir> coachJ: have you done that?
[01:46] <abattoir> coachJ: Tools->Change Browser Identification...
[01:46] <abattoir> choose Firefox/Mozilla
[01:47] <sander> TheHighChild: thanks, but there are no such commands in the "grub shell"
[01:47] <TheHighChild> sander: Yes, you can use the install disk to boot to the live cd
[01:47] <sander> that might be so, but i don't have the install disc
[01:48] <sander> i think
[01:48] <sander> i probably should go look, thugh
[01:48] <sander> though
[01:48] <TheHighChild> oh, that's tough then, do you have any linux bootable disks?
[01:48] <TheHighChild> ok man, sorry I couldn't help.
[01:48] <sander> you tried, at least, which makes you OK:)
[01:49] <mustech> can i disable dosfsck on boot?
[01:49] <luksan> coachJ: it works for me, what version are you using?
[01:54] <mustech> anyone can answer me
[01:55] <ubuntuibm> good evening all
[01:55] <mustech> i have a question
[01:55] <farous> ubuntuibm: lol my pc hostname is ibmubuntu
[01:55] <ubuntuibm> i have recently downloaded easyubuntu...i am trying to play dvds and to no avail am having any luck
[01:55] <unix_infidel> does anyone have any problems with their USB flash drives taking a while w/ udev to create the /dev/sdxN nodde?
[01:55] <gnomefreak> mustech: you need to ask it first
[01:56] <farous> !restrictedformats > ubuntuibm
[01:56] <ubuntuibm> farous....that is one of the many machine that i have...have to keep it simple for home use
[01:56] <farous> ubuntuibm: same here :)
[01:56] <unix_infidel> for instance i have to plugin and replugin the device 2-3 times for it to register
[01:56] <mustech> OK can i disable dosfsck from scanninig on boot
[01:57] <unix_infidel> or wait like a minutes for udev to automtaically create the node.
[01:58] <eXCeSS> video card, case, mobo, psu, cpu, ram, hdd, and cd/dvd-rw <- am i missing something
[01:59] <mustech> please somebody answer me
[02:00] <unix_infidel> fans
[02:00] <Goop2> Im having alot of trouble with GRUB >.<
[02:00] <eXCeSS> included
[02:00] <unix_infidel> LCD
[02:01] <Goop2> moniter O_o
[02:01] <unix_infidel> triple display setup :)
[02:01] <Goop2> 250" widescreen moniter
[02:02] <Goop2> cupholders!!
[02:02] <mustech> please answer my question
[02:03] <mustech> can i ban dosfsck from scaning on boot
[02:03] <mustech> can i disable it
[02:03] <farous> mustech: isn't it obvious if some one know he would have answered :)
[02:04] <mustech> this means there is no way to do that
[02:04] <farous> mustech: know it mean know one in the room know better ask in ubuntu room
[02:04] <timthelion> it means no one knows?
[02:04] <Goop2> sometimes hitting it with a sledge works O_o
[02:05] <mustech> ok thanks for advice
[02:05] <farous> mustech: ask the lion seem he is eager to answer you ;)
[02:06] <timthelion> hey.  anyone know why my wirelless keyboard keeps stoping?  it stops responding and when I use the mouse to log out I can then type in my passoword and be fine.
[02:07] <timthelion> I don't like having to log out and in all the time.
[02:07] <Goop2> is it a M$ keyboard?
[02:07] <timthelion> yes.
[02:07] <timthelion> whyR
[02:07] <timthelion> ?
[02:07] <Goop2> well theres you whole problem right there xD
[02:08] <timthelion> no it's not
[02:08] <Goop2> Im just kidding :P
[02:08] <timthelion> it is a problem with the software since there is a software solution(loging out and in)
[02:09] <timthelion> any thoughts?
[02:09] <Goop2> hmmm...
[02:09] <farous> timthelion: first you do not need to log out and in. it might be a problem with the firmware
[02:10] <timthelion> well that is the way I get it working again.
[02:10] <farous> neverworked with wireless keyboard but you can just restart the network if that is the problem
[02:10] <Goop2> Ive had that happen in games... I was never able to figure it out though v-v
[02:12] <timthelion> is there some restarting script that runs when I log out and in that I could look at and maybe make my own script that would just restart the keyboard?
[02:12] <ubuntuibm> farous.....thanks for the info, go the dvd to play...now the problem is that it is very choppy
[02:12] <farous> ubuntuibm: drm
[02:13] <farous> ubuntuibm: give me a min my child giving me hell
[02:13] <ubuntuibm> no problem
[02:13] <farous> ubuntuibm: dma
[02:13] <farous> !dma
[02:13] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[02:14] <farous> ^
[02:14] <farous> ubuntuibm: check the link by ubotu
[02:14] <ubuntuibm> checking it now...ty
[02:14] <farous> :)
[02:22] <ubuntuibm> ubotu....should that dvd fix work instantly?
[02:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu....should that dvd fix work instantly? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:22] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: ubotu is a bot :)
[02:23] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: i think it should... it doesnt?
[02:23] <ubuntuibm> oh....sorry, i feel a little stupid as a newbie
[02:23] <ubuntuibm> not instantly
[02:23] <ubuntuibm> dvd still choppy
[02:23] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: was it disabled?
[02:24] <ubuntuibm> it was...not it is set to 1
[02:24] <jbrouhard> hmm
[02:24] <ubuntuibm> or on
[02:24] <jbrouhard> maybe I should find out hmm?
[02:24] <ubuntuibm> not = now
[02:24] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: it was disabled, and you set it to 1?
[02:24] <abattoir> aah, ok
[02:25] <abattoir> and you made sure it would be on by default when you boot?
[02:25] <abattoir> then maybe a reboot might help
[02:25] <ubuntuibm> i put in the settings per the webpage
[02:25] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: then reboot might help, could you try rebooting?
[02:25] <ubuntuibm> how can i check if it will be on at boot  by default?
[02:26] <ubuntuibm> i could try that....just have to figure out how to get back to this page
[02:26] <ubuntuibm> do i just open and connect?
[02:26] <ubuntuibm> i have never used IRC
[02:26] <ubuntuibm> prior to this
[02:27] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: what client are you using? Konversation?
[02:27] <ubuntuibm> yes
[02:27] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: you can do it the same way you did, to get here
[02:27] <ubuntuibm> ok...let me try and reboot and see what happens
[02:27] <ubuntuibm> brb
[02:30] <doppelganger_> anyone here have superkaramba?
[02:31] <abattoir> doppelganger_: i do.
[02:31] <abattoir> this vaguely seems familiar ;)
[02:32] <doppelganger_> aba, how do you move the things around you put on the desktop? i feel stupid for asking, but i can just drag em, and i don't see any kind of menu for it
[02:32] <doppelganger_> can=can't
[02:32] <abattoir> doppelganger_: rt. click on theme -> Toggle Locked position
[02:32] <ubuntuibm> abattoir....rebooted, still very choppy
[02:33] <doppelganger_> duh, ok, haha
[02:33] <doppelganger_> thanks
[02:33] <doppelganger_> 8)
[02:33] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: this time it is enabled?
[02:33] <abattoir> i mean, by default.
[02:33] <ubuntuibm> how do i check that now that i have rebooted
[02:33] <unix_infidel> ubuntuibm: what IBM you running on?
[02:33] <ubuntuibm> t22
[02:33] <abattoir> same command as before... sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[02:34] <abattoir> see if using_dma is on, 1 .
[02:34] <ubuntuibm> did not hold configuration
[02:34] <ubuntuibm> back at 0
[02:34] <ubuntuibm> damn it that pisses me off
[02:35] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: hmmm, could you check if you did it correctly? :)
[02:35] <ubuntuibm> i guess that i didn't
[02:35] <ubuntuibm> i will be honest...i suck at the command line of this...what do i enter or can you give me link to check?
[02:35] <abattoir> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[02:36] <abattoir> try sudo hdparm -d1 -k1 /dev/hdc
[02:36] <abattoir> 'sudo hdparm -d1 -k1 /dev/hdc' i.e
[02:37] <ubuntuibm> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[02:37] <ubuntuibm>  setting keep_settings to 1 (on)
[02:37] <ubuntuibm> using_dma    =  1 (on)
[02:38] <ubuntuibm>  keepsettings =  1 (on)
[02:38] <ubuntuibm> those are my settings
[02:38] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: now try rebooting, and see if it sticks.
[02:38] <ubuntuibm> based on those settings, does it look like it is going to stick?
[02:39] <abattoir> yes, looks like it :) (keepsettings=1)
[02:39] <ubuntuibm> ok...let me try again and see what happens...brb
[02:39] <abattoir> ok
[02:40] <actinic> !make
[02:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:44] <doppelganger_> aba, you still here?
[02:45] <abattoir> doppelganger_: yes
[02:45] <doppelganger_> hey, have you tried the liquid weather theme?
[02:45] <abattoir> doppelganger_: yes, i am using it
[02:45] <doppelganger_> hmm..
[02:46] <doppelganger_> i'm in superkaramba...  i download it..  then it doesn't show in my list
[02:46] <doppelganger_> did you have to do something to manually get it going?
[02:46] <abattoir> doppelganger_: you downloaded through Superkaramba(KHotNewStuff) ?
[02:46] <doppelganger_> yeah
[02:46] <abattoir> doppelganger_: ok, was there any error/success message?
[02:46] <doppelganger_> doesn't show up in my list now like all the others
[02:47] <doppelganger_> it's weird
[02:47] <abattoir> doppelganger_: try closing and opening superkaramba
[02:47] <doppelganger_> nothing 'tall, other than it loaded the liquid weather homepage
[02:47] <doppelganger_> alright, one sec
[02:48] <doppelganger_> nada  <.<
[02:48] <abattoir> hmmm, you can try d'loading it manually
[02:48] <abattoir> go to kde-look.org
[02:48] <abattoir> there is a Karamba section
[02:48] <abattoir> you'd find loads of more useful themes..
[02:48] <abattoir> search for liquid weather plus
[02:49] <abattoir> download to your harddisk, and run using "Open Local theme"
[02:49] <doppelganger_> right on, i'll try that
[02:49] <doppelganger_> thanks again aba  ;)
[02:49] <abattoir> no problem :)
[02:50] <doppelganger_> damn, there's a shitload on here ;)
[02:51] <abattoir> yes, the inbuilt Superkaramba 'thingy' shows a small selection of the 'latest' themes, that's all.
[02:51] <doppelganger_> would be nice if it also showed it's version number someplace
[02:51] <doppelganger_> liquid weather says it needs a certain one
[02:51] <abattoir> doppelganger_: version no. of what?
[02:51] <doppelganger_> sk
[02:52] <abattoir> doppelganger_: if you use the one which comes w/ dapper, it is the latest
[02:52] <abattoir> 0.39
[02:52] <doppelganger_> i think i had to manually download it
[02:52] <doppelganger_> but, i'll check adept, now that i think about it
[02:52] <doppelganger_> see it's there
[02:52] <abattoir> !info superkaramba
[02:52] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[02:53] <abattoir> it should be there if you have universe enabled
[02:54] <abattoir> doppelganger_: you might already have the latest...
[02:54] <doppelganger_> i downloaded it like 2 days ago
[02:54] <doppelganger_> so i'm sure it's not that old
[02:54] <abattoir> rt. click on the Tray icon->About superkaramba
[02:55] <abattoir> but coming to think of it, maybe you have 0.37 or something...
[02:55] <doppelganger_> 1.39  ;)
[02:55] <abattoir> maybe that's why lwp didnt work
[02:55] <abattoir> oh ok
[02:55] <abattoir> you mean 0.39
[02:55] <abattoir> ok, lwp should work, try doing it manually
[02:56] <doppelganger_> and it'll startup with teh computer i hope
[02:56] <doppelganger_> *crosses fingers*
[02:56] <doppelganger_> i'll probably have to put sk in startup somehow, knowing my luck
[02:57] <ubuntuibm> abattoir....made it back
[02:57] <ubuntuibm> after reboot, settings did not hold
[02:57] <doppelganger_> well, i'll give it a whirl, thanks again aba.
[02:57] <ubuntuibm> changed settings at reboot, tested dvd, still choppy
[02:58] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: hmm, the wiki says it should... you tried the command?
[02:58] <ubuntuibm> yes
[02:58] <ubuntuibm> why does linux make it so difficult to watch dvds
[02:58] <ubuntuibm> i will say, that is the one thing i do like about windows.
[02:59] <ubuntuibm> but that is about it
[02:59] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: its not 'difficult', it might be an driver/hardware issue :)
[02:59] <ubuntuibm> if i could help it, i would change all machines to linux
[02:59] <abattoir> about the restricted codecs, well, they are 'restricted' :)
[02:59] <abattoir> as you go along, and if you are patient, you'll find linux to be very easy
[02:59] <ubuntuibm> i don't think that it is hardware for the simple reason that it plays when i run it in windows
[03:00] <ubuntuibm> oh, i agree.
[03:00] <ironfroggy_LT> anyone get "cannot create filesystem" error during installation?
[03:00] <ubuntuibm> i think that i just need to stick with 1 flavor and learn it...quit bouncing around
[03:00] <ubuntuibm> have played with suse, fedora/redhat, mandrake and now ubuntu
[03:00] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: do 'sudo kate /etc/hdparm.conf'
[03:01] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: for eg., most stuff works out of the box for me... so i'd say its hardware dependant
[03:01] <abattoir> *work
[03:01] <ubuntuibm> i get "command not found"
[03:03] <ubuntuibm> any ideas abattoir?
[03:04] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: you entered it w/o the quotes right?
[03:04] <ubuntuibm> no quotes
[03:04] <abattoir> make sure you entered exactly what i said....
[03:05] <abattoir> sudo kate /etc/hdparm.conf
[03:05] <ubuntuibm> command not found
[03:05] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: for 'sudo' ?
[03:05] <ubuntuibm> sudo: kate: command not found
[03:06] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: you are running ubuntu?
[03:06] <ubuntuibm> yes.
[03:06] <abattoir> or kubuntu?
[03:06] <ubuntuibm> 6.06
[03:06] <ubuntuibm> ubuntu
[03:06] <abattoir> lol.... this is #kubuntu :)
[03:06] <ubuntuibm> tried the kubuntu, did not like it
[03:07] <abattoir> nevermind, try 'sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf'
[03:07] <abattoir> yes, this is the support channel for the thing which you didnt like :P
[03:09] <ubuntuibm> i have used KDE with other flavors, did not like the layout for ubuntu, or whatever it is called
[03:09] <aeon17x> ubuntuibm: what did you not like about it?
[03:09] <ubuntuibm> ok...that gave me something different
[03:10] <ubuntuibm> not really sure...guess i was used to using SuSE KDE
[03:10] <ubuntuibm> and when i started using ubuntu, of course it is gnome based
[03:10] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: executed the command?
[03:10] <ubuntuibm> abattoir
[03:10] <ubuntuibm> yes
[03:11] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: btw, out of  nothing but interest, i'd like to ask why/what you didnt like...
[03:11] <pontikakis> hi
[03:11] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: ok, now, did you enter the settings here before?
[03:11] <abattoir> is
[03:11] <abattoir> /dev/hdc {
[03:11] <abattoir> dma = on
[03:11] <abattoir> }
[03:11] <abattoir> present?
[03:11] <ubuntuibm> did not like the kubuntu b/c i was used to suse kde
[03:11] <ubuntuibm> different layout
[03:12] <ubuntuibm> yes, that is in there.
[03:12] <ubuntuibm> should it have a # in front of it?
[03:12] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: check the wiki page again...
[03:12] <abattoir> no
[03:12] <ubuntuibm> or a # at the beginning of each line
[03:12] <ubuntuibm> as all the others do
[03:12] <abattoir> hmmm.. i'm not sure... did you ask at #ubuntu ?
[03:13] <jbrouhard> Hey guys.. quick question
[03:13] <jbrouhard> is artsd required to be running for sound to work ?
[03:13] <ubuntuibm> no...not even sure how to connect to that.
[03:13] <ubuntuibm> i just opened this up and got here
[03:13] <OOD> jbrouhard: no it's not
[03:13] <ubuntuibm> did it automatically
[03:13] <nico_> hi guys... I am having problems configuring my wireless card. I have read all the wikis an forums and I cannot get it working!! Please, cuold anyone help me?
[03:13] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: the lines w/ # are comments
[03:13] <jbrouhard> Ok
[03:13] <jbrouhard> thanks
[03:13] <abattoir> add the stuff from the wiki at the end, w/o a #
[03:14] <abattoir> brb
[03:14] <OOD> jbrouhard: it's pretty much useless since almost all programs use OSS or ALSA now
[03:14] <nico_> anyone? :(
[03:14] <jbrouhard> Thought as much, OOD
[03:15] <ubuntuibm> nico....what sort of card...as i has so many problems with setting mine up
[03:15] <nico_> Broadcom 4306
[03:15] <ubuntuibm> i have seen some cards do not function as well as others.
[03:16] <ubuntuibm> nico....what flavor?
[03:16] <nico_> flavor?
[03:16] <ubuntuibm> i have a netgear, could not get it to run on fedora, but had no problems with suse or ubuntu
[03:16] <ubuntuibm> which version of linux
[03:17] <nico_> sorry, Kubuntu 6.06 2.6.15-26-386 kernel
[03:17] <ubuntuibm> it may be a problem with the hardware, ie the wireless card
[03:18] <nico_> well, it is working with windows :S
[03:18] <ubuntuibm> do you have another card you can test?
[03:18] <nico_> another wireless? No, I don't
[03:18] <larson9999> nixternal: did you try to compile that test program on the sourceofrge forum?
[03:18] <ubuntuibm> i have seen many of cards that will work with windows and not linux
[03:19] <nico_> let me tell you... I can get an IP with DHCP, but I can't ping the router =S
[03:19] <ubuntuibm> abattoir...any ideas for my dvd issue?
[03:20] <ubuntuibm> what IP address are you getting?
[03:20] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: paste the contents of the file @ pastebin
[03:20] <abattoir> !paste
[03:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:20] <nico_> 192.168.1.100, my router is 192.168.1.1
[03:20] <abattoir> nico_: try 'sudo ifup eth1' where eth1 is the name of the interface
[03:20] <ubuntuibm> are you on the laptop right now?
[03:20] <ironfroggy_LT> 'mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1' should be correct, right?
[03:21] <Ashex> so, i think i just broke X while trying to setup xgl
[03:21] <nico_> yes, but "wirely"
[03:21] <Ashex> what's that fantastic command to reconfigure the xserver
[03:21] <Distro^Junkie> anyone here tried out XPde ?
[03:21] <abattoir> Ashex: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:21] <Ashex> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[03:21] <Ashex> awesome
[03:22] <ubuntuibm> so that is not a true representation of what IP address you are getting on the wireless card
[03:22] <abattoir> !bcm43xx
[03:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:22] <abattoir> nico_: ^^^ see if that helps
[03:23] <ironfroggy_LT> 'mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1' should be correct, right?
[03:23] <abattoir> nico_: also, is the card recognised? if so what interface?
[03:23] <ubuntuibm> abattoir....posted
[03:23] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: link?
[03:23] <nico_> thank you, but I have read all of them, and I couldn't get it working :(
[03:23] <ubuntuibm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18191
[03:23] <abattoir> nico_: is it recognised? interface?
[03:24] <nico_> yes, It is eth1. If I choose to work wirelessly, I get the IP by DHCP, but I can't surf the web or even ping the router =S
[03:24] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: i dont think you have done anything wrong, maybe someone at #ubuntu can help...
[03:25] <ubuntuibm> i think that when you connect, it should be using ath0
[03:25] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: /join #ubuntu
[03:25] <nico_> (sorry about my English, I am from Argentina )
[03:25] <abattoir> or just click on it
[03:25] <ubuntuibm> that you very much abattior
[03:25] <abattoir> nico_: did you try 'sudo ifup eth1' ?
[03:25] <ubuntuibm> that = thank
[03:25] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: no problem :)
[03:26] <ubuntuibm> abattior...shouldn't it be connecting to ath0 for the wireless?
[03:26] <ubuntuibm> that is what it connects to on my end
[03:26] <abattoir> ubuntuibm: the name of the interface might vary according to the driver/ type of card
[03:26] <Ashex> awesome
[03:26] <nico_> yes, and I get "interface eth1 already configured" because I edit the ifstate manually
[03:26] <Ashex> X is back up and running
[03:26] <Ashex> thanks for the help
[03:28] <nico_> I used to have Fedora Core 4, I got the wireless card working with ndiswrapper. But with Dapper I can't =S
[03:29] <nico_> the OS is not recognizing the card configured with ndiswrapper
[03:29] <abattoir> nico_: dapper's kernel has a native bcm43xx driver, you could disable it and use ndiswrapper if you want
[03:29] <abattoir> which is what i do
[03:29] <nico_> yes, I did. But nothing happened...
[03:30] <nico_> I guess I am missing something
[03:30] <abattoir> nico_: maybe i could help you better w/ ndiswrapper
[03:30] <abattoir> what is wrong when you use that?
[03:30] <nico_> I tell you... just let me do the installation again...
[03:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> nico_: Yeah, you gotta make it disable the driver. It'll work perfectly fine with ndiswrapper.
[03:31] <nico_> first, I will disable bcm43xx...
[03:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> No need to reinstall. :)
[03:31] <nico_> "sudo rmmod bcm43xx" my card stopped working :)
[03:33] <nico_> "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils" to install ndiswrapper. Am I right?
[03:33] <abattoir> yup
[03:33] <abattoir> if you already dont have it :)
[03:33] <nico_> :)
[03:34] <jontec_> Can anyone tell me where .deb files are stored on Kubuntu?
[03:34] <abattoir> jontec_: /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:34] <jontec_> thanks
[03:34] <nico_> "sudo ndiswrapper -i drivers/bcmwl5.inf", here I go!!
[03:35] <nico_> "bcmwl5          driver present, hardware present" =D
[03:35] <nico_> well, what's next? =S
[03:36] <abattoir> 'sudo ndiswrapper -m'
[03:36] <nico_> "wlan0" is the alias
[03:36] <nico_> then, "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[03:36] <abattoir> yes, you might need to prefix sudo...
[03:36] <nico_> my wireless card is still disabled =S
[03:37] <nico_> yes, I did
[03:37] <abattoir> nico_: iwconfig ?
[03:37] <abattoir> again, might need to put sudo before that
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> nico_: Add 'ndiswrapper' to the end of /etc/modules -- that'll make it start up when you reboot.
[03:37] <nico_> lo        no wireless extensions.
[03:37] <nico_> eth0        no wireless extensions.
[03:37] <nico_> sit0        no wireless extensions.
[03:38] <nico_> nothing about wlan0
[03:38] <abattoir> nico_: try 'dmesg'... see if ndiswrapper is loaded successfully
[03:39] <nico_> ndiswrapper (pnp_start_device:479): Windows driver couldn't initialize the device (C0000001) =(
[03:39] <abattoir> hmmm, ndiswrapper hasnt loaded properly
[03:40] <Ashex> i reconfigured xserver after i broke it setting up xgl
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Add 'ndiswrapper' to the end of '/etc/modules', then reboot. It should then load properly. (that's what I had to do)
[03:40] <nico_> it has something to do with the fact that I am connected though networkmanager?
[03:40] <Ashex> and for some reason, a bunch of my programs have dissapeared
[03:40] <Ashex> notably amorak
[03:40] <Ashex> and i can't apt-get it for some reason
[03:40] <abattoir> nico_: try what CheeseBurgerMan says, but remember to blacklist bcm43xx before that
[03:41] <Ashex> and locate amorak doesn't give me anything
[03:41] <abattoir> Ashex: what sort of error(s) do you get?
[03:41] <nico_> well, I will. Then, I tell you both. Thank you, guys!
[03:41] <abattoir> amarok
[03:41] <Ashex> abattoir, it just doesn't exist
[03:41] <abattoir> Ashex: amarok :) not amorak
[03:41] <Ashex> heh
[03:41] <Ashex> yeah, i just realized that
[03:42] <Ashex> well, then what i want to know is
[03:42] <Ashex> how and why did it uninstall amarok?
[03:42] <Ashex> but i don't really care, as long as i have it back
[03:42] <abattoir> Ashex: i dont know... what did you do? just reconfigure X?
[03:42] <Ashex> yeah
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ashex: Have you tried running 'sudo apt-get update'?
[03:43] <abattoir> yeah, anyways i'd have said that too :)
[03:43] <Ashex> heh, i'm installing it right now
[03:43] <Ashex> I'll have to make sure i spell it right in the future >_>
[03:43] <coma> !file sharing
[03:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about file sharing - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, yup
[03:43] <Ashex> and now that i have your attention, i'm going to be upgrading my desktop, switching out the mobo
[03:44] <smygis> And?
[03:44] <Ashex> i'm going to image my current hard drive to a larger one
[03:44] <smygis> So?
[03:44] <Ashex> so, it'll go from an ide 80 gig to a sata 300gig
[03:44] <coma> !samba
[03:44] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:44] <nico_> sorry, one more question... should I have wlan0 in my interfaces file?
[03:44] <Ashex> will it still boot?
[03:44] <Ashex> or do i need to modify the crap out of grub
[03:44] <abattoir> nico_: yes, 'auto wlan0'
[03:44] <smygis> Ashex: I think so
[03:45] <nico_> abattoir: that's all?
[03:45] <abattoir> nico_: also 'iface inet dhcp' or something... wait
[03:45] <nico_> what about eth1, which appears there too?
[03:45] <abattoir> nico_: that's for the bcm43xx module, you can ignore it
[03:46] <nico_> ok. just comment it?
[03:46] <abattoir> nico_: 'auto wlan0' in one line
[03:46] <nico_> yes
[03:46] <abattoir> nico_: in the next 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp'
[03:46] <nico_> yes, done
[03:46] <Ashex> well crap
[03:46] <abattoir> nico_: it should be safe to comment, yes
[03:46] <Ashex> kde is getting all screwy with me
[03:46] <abattoir> Ashex: it depends...
[03:47] <nico_> well, I'll reboot. Wish me luck! :)
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good luck.
[03:47] <abattoir> Ashex: difficult to say, but there is a high chance something will get screwed up :)
[03:47] <Ashex> yeah, i figured as much
[03:47] <Ashex> bleh
[03:47] <Ashex> this is going to get old pretty quick
[03:48] <Ashex> konqeruer (or however it's spelled) got uninstalled too
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> konqueror
[03:48] <abattoir> konqueror
[03:48] <Ashex> Yeah, i couldn't open any folders >:(
[03:49] <abattoir> Ashex: what happened before you reconfigured X? why did you reconfigure it?
[03:49] <Ashex> i was setting up xgl
[03:49] <abattoir> Ashex: oh, and it went ugly? ;)
[03:49] <Ashex> but i got an error when installing some libs, so i reversed everything i did
[03:49] <Ashex> nah, i stopped when i spotted an error
[03:49] <Ashex> didn't feel like breaking my system again
[03:50] <Ashex> but yet, X wouldn't start back up so i reconfigured it
[03:50] <Ashex> aw fooey, my startup scripts have been reset too
[03:51] <TheHighChild> Ashex: Why did you have to reconfigre X?
[03:51] <Ashex> because it wouldn't start back up
[03:51] <nico_> [17179591.472000]  ndiswrapper version 1.8 loaded (preempt=yes,smp=no)
[03:51] <Ashex> startx gave me a no screens error
[03:51] <nico_> [17179591.576000]  ndiswrapper: driver bcmwl5 (Broadcom,06/13/2003, 3.20.23.0) loaded
[03:51] <nico_> [17179591.580000]  ndiswrapper (NdisWriteErrorLogEntry:230): log: C000138D, count: 1, return_address: e0cd0b02
[03:51] <nico_> [17179591.580000]  ndiswrapper (NdisWriteErrorLogEntry:233): code: 259
[03:51] <nico_> [17179591.580000]  ndiswrapper (miniport_init:240): couldn't initialize device: C0000001
[03:51] <nico_> [17179591.580000]  ndiswrapper (pnp_start_device:479): Windows driver couldn't initialize the device (C0000001)
[03:51] <nico_> [17179591.580000]  ndiswrapper (miniport_halt:271): device dbcbb260 is not initialized - not halting
[03:51] <nico_> [17179591.580000]  ndiswrapper: device eth%d removed
[03:51] <nico_> [17179591.580000]  ndiswrapper: probe of 0000:00:0c.0 failed with error -22
[03:51] <nico_> ='(
[03:51] <Ashex> Nico
[03:52] <Ashex> use pastebin next time
[03:52] <TheHighChild> wtf
[03:52] <nico_> sorry...
[03:52] <Ashex> basically, one of the modules i removed happened to remove was part of my nvidia drivers
[03:52] <Ashex> so when i got X back up and running, i used easyubuntu (yeah, i'm a lazy bastard) reinstall nvidia drivers
[03:53] <nico_> abattoir :( any comments? ='(
[03:53] <TheHighChild> Ashex: Not sure what guide you were using to set this all up, but you shouldn't really have to make major changes to your X. I can only presume that your kdmrc was trying to start Xgl instead of Xorg as is the case of the guide I used
[03:55] <Ashex> i found a few, but i used the one on ubuntu forums
[03:55] <abattoir> nico_: hmm... ndiswrapper doesnt load the driver... i am not sure why exactly...
[03:55] <TheHighChild> Ashex: If you want, i can get you the bookmark to the guide I used. It setup Xgl fine and when i didn't want it to start with my kde anymore, I just reverted back two backup files and that was the end of it
[03:55] <abattoir> nico_: is the .inf file correct?
[03:55] <Ashex> TheHighChild, that would be cool
[03:55] <TheHighChild> Ashex: There are a few on the forums, many with vastly more difficult instructions than needed
[03:56] <Ashex> heh, you can never have too much detail
[03:56] <Ashex> I used one that was kubuntu specific, since all the others used gnome
[03:56] <Ashex> bleh, this is irritating
[03:56] <Ashex> Amarok won't play audio files on my hard drive
[03:56] <larson9999> i used the site from google 'tweaking ubuntu' that says how to tweak it on first start up.
[03:56] <Ashex> it'll place the ones on the ntfs drive, but not the main one
[03:57] <Ashex> s/place/play
[03:57] <TheHighChild> Ashex: Sorry m8, my local bookmark is for aiglx, I'll have to try and look that up for you when I get home.
[03:57] <Ashex> TheHighChild, eh, no big deal
[03:58] <Ashex> i didn't even think xgl would run very well on my computer
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> nico_: Do you have a BCM4318? I can send you the driver that I'm using
[03:58] <Ashex> 1.6 Ghz with geforce 5200mx and 768mb ram
[03:58] <nico_> I have 4306
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh
[03:58] <Ashex> or something like that
[03:58] <nico_> I am using the drivers that came with the laptop =S
[03:59] <Ashex> I don't think you want me to spit the system stats into here
[03:59] <TheHighChild> Ashex: Next time, I suggest making a backup of the kdmrc and xorg.conf files. Those should be the only files you need to restore the system to your last usable state. You may need to create other executable files and the such but they are usually relevant to the xgl startup and don't need to be touched with another windowing system
[03:59] <nico_> I am using bcmwl5a now, but it is the same
[03:59] <TheHighChild> Ashex: It should run fine. I had it up and running for a few days but decided it wasn't for me.
[04:00] <Ashex> i'll keep that in mind for future reference
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> nico_: Yeah, I'm using the bcmwl5 driver as well. I'll send you the driver if you want.
[04:01] <Ashex> on another note, how do i set up my windows key to pop open Kmenu?
[04:01] <smygis> And i cant even install the nvidia drivers.
[04:01] <Ashex> smygis, easyubuntu?
[04:02] <abattoir> Ashex: Kcontrol -> Regional &....->Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:02] <TheHighChild> Ashex: It's under command shortcuts after what abbatoir mentioned
[04:02] <smygis> Ashex: ?? easyubuntu?
[04:02] <Ashex> it'll install and setup nvidia drivers for you
[04:03] <smygis> :O omg
[04:03] <abattoir> Ashex: i'm not sure if you can set it to the Win key though
[04:03] <smygis> nice
[04:03] <Ashex> Yeah
[04:04] <Ashex> i used to have it setup so when i hit the win key it opened up
[04:04] <Ashex> but now it doesn't, and it demands i bind the win key to another one to get it
[04:04] <abattoir> Ashex: i guess its a combination key now(like Alt, Ctrl)...
[04:04] <larson9999> in all the distros i've tried there is always the problem of how to find the tutorial that is right.  i often wonder if it would make sense for the distro to 'certify' a certain set of tutorials.  is that a dumb idea?  or does it already happen and i'm too dumb to know?
[04:04] <abattoir> i use the menu key though :)
[04:04] <TheHighChild> larson9999: I take the Wiki as such
[04:05] <larson9999> TheHighChild: even with the wiki this seems to be not 'right' enough.  if that means anything.
[04:06] <TheHighChild> larson9999: Well, with Linux, you'll never find a perfect fit. Same goes with Windows but people tend to reinstall or return to their purchaser before they figure that out.
[04:06] <Ashex> the menu key?
[04:06] <Ashex> son of a gun
[04:06] <larson9999> TheHighChild: and i'd go so far to say it might make sense to put them in your face so to speak as a quick hitter for the new person or for the old person with a new version.
[04:06] <Ashex> why won't amarok play music on the linux drive
[04:06] <abattoir> Ashex: the one on the other side of the space bar(b/w cntrl and alt)...
[04:07] <Ashex> oh yeaaahhhh
[04:07] <abattoir> Ashex: it is meant for rt. clicks... but we are not using a mac are we ;)
[04:07] <TheHighChild> larson9999: It has to be nearly impossible to provide near perfect tutorials, instructions, etc as there will always be users that have to hold old packages, custom kernels, windowing systems, etc.
[04:08] <TheHighChild> larson9999: That's why I think a wholly newb-friendly linux is a pipe-dream.
[04:08] <luc45> TheHighChild: how do i create a desktop icon for enemy territory? the command to run it is "et"
[04:08] <larson9999> TheHighChild: sure.  but i'd think this would be for clean, new installs of that version of the distro.  i take your point it wouldn't ever be perfect but i think it could be easier without too much effort.
[04:08] <Ashex> abattoir, good point :)
[04:08] <smygis> No luck there
[04:09] <smygis> man this sucks
[04:09] <Ashex> are you getting an error or anything?
[04:09] <skavenge> are the qt headers/libraries in a different place in ubuntu? im trying to compile some kde apps and both die during ./configure stating the qt headers and libraries cant be found?
[04:09] <TheHighChild> luc45: in your kmenu, you can right click and edit menu. There you can add a new selection under the games portion. There, you'll type the command 'et' and the location /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/
[04:10] <smygis> Ashex: More like 1k+ errors
[04:10] <luc45> TheHighChild: thx
[04:10] <TheHighChild> larson9999: Anything specific you're having trouble with? For the most part, I find my relevant information from Debian documents. Most of the ubuntu stuff takes the GUI route to fixing things but I find it more harmful/troublesome than editing a few conf files.
[04:10] <larson9999> TheHighChild: nope.  just making an observation.
[04:11] <Ashex> smygis, mind pastebining a portion of thme?
[04:11] <TheHighChild> luc45: Beyond that, you can right click on the desktop, create new > link to application.
[04:11] <luc45> indeed
[04:11] <luc45> i did that
[04:11] <larson9999> TheHighChild: the topic i was chiming on was the nvidia graphics drivers.
[04:12] <TheHighChild> luc45: if you want to be super lazy like me, you can add portions to your .bashrc and setup custom commands to connect to a server for example 'server1' could be an alias for et connect IPaddress and it'll fire up to that server
[04:13] <TheHighChild> larson9999: yeah, I hear so many people having trouble with them. I never have so it's hard for me to help as I've not had to recover or anything.
[04:13] <smygis> pastebin is slow
[04:14] <luc45> TheHighChild: it's ok :) thx
[04:14] <TheHighChild> luc45: Do you play on multiple servers or just one?
[04:14] <Ashex> smygis, steal ubuntu's
[04:14] <larson9999> TheHighChild: well they are easy in ubuntu.  but the tutorial i found was missing little things like.  if you upgrader kernels you'll need to add the secure?(i think that's not the right term)  sources.
[04:14] <Ashex> !pastebin
[04:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:14] <luc45> TheHighChild: multiple
[04:15] <larson9999> TheHighChild: and a bit of a brief discussion in the tutorial about why you can't just install it from the nvidia script like you can in other distros would be nice.
[04:15] <serenity> hiho
[04:15] <TheHighChild> luc45: Have you ever heard of xqf? It's a Quake 3 engine server locator and bookmarker. You can install with apt-get install xqf
[04:16] <serenity> is there a juebox-like app for linux (big buttons etc.)?
[04:16] <serenity> jukebox
[04:16] <luc45> TheHighChild: cool
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> I guess Amarok isnt a "jukebox"?
[04:16] <larson9999> TheHighChild: at any rate, i think it would be nice and probably will happen more as more people switch for the distro itself to sanction more of those kinds of things.  probably even package them.
[04:16] <serenity> CheeseBurgerMan: nope
[04:16] <abattoir> serenity: JuK ?
[04:16] <luc45> TheHighChild: do u know another good game for linux?
[04:16] <TheHighChild> larson9999: I've performed at least a dozen installs of k/ubuntu with Nvidia cards. All I've ever had to do was "apt-get install nvidia-glx' && nvidia-glx-config enable" and add "nvidia" to the xorg.conf and restart of x
[04:17] <smygis> i give up. No 3D on my computer :(
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> serenity: Try 'pytone' or 'irmp3'
[04:17] <TheHighChild> luc45: Not off hand. I only play ET. I suggest taking a look at linuxgamers.com and see if they have anything cool suggested
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> serenity: They turned up in the search results for 'jukebox' :P
[04:18] <larson9999> TheHighChild: yes.  it's very easy.
[04:18] <TheHighChild> serenity: What are you looking for in a media player? Amarok can be configured to have a single window with larger buttons, less fluff.
[04:18] <larson9999> TheHighChild: but doesn't the configure thing change it to nividia in ubuntu?
[04:19] <serenity> you mean the xmms like gui?
[04:19] <TheHighChild> larson9999: I've never trusted ANYTHING changed my xorg on kubuntu, especially NOT kcontrol (kcontrol is the embodiment of xorg suicide)
[04:19] <larson9999> TheHighChild: and why won't the nvidia script work?
[04:20] <TheHighChild> serenity: Yeah, exactly like the xmms little window
[04:20] <larson9999> TheHighChild: well, to use the config script or not is the kind of thing i'd like to see the distro recommend or not.
[04:21] <TheHighChild> go to Settings > configre amarok > general > show small player like xmms
[04:21] <Ashex> is it just me
[04:21] <Ashex> or does xmms play songs at a higher quality then Amarok?
[04:21] <serenity> hmm, all suggestions does not really fit into my imagination. I will be used on a tv
[04:22] <larson9999> TheHighChild: the reason i think it would be a good idea is not because it's the job of the distro but becuase i think it would be help newbies warm up to it.  sort of a quick hitter doc of here we are here's what we recommend ot have a great time.  and here's some bullet point about how we different in mentality and bits and bytes from other distros.  ok.  i guess i better get to writing it.
[04:22] <TheHighChild> serenity: i c, I can only suggest checking out the mythtv packages, maybe something in there to suit your fancy
[04:22] <Ashex> !tell me about pastebin
[04:22] <TheHighChild> Ashex: What sound output are you using with amarok?
[04:22] <serenity> ty
[04:23] <TheHighChild> larson9999: I used to think it'd be cool if everyone learning linux, but to heck with that. I have a job because Windows and Apple make crap software. I'd like to keep it.
[04:24] <larson9999> TheHighChild: i do too.  and agree for the same reason.  hopefully, vista gets here in time to keep me in a job :)
[04:24] <moparisthebest> how would I reenable sound on my machine?
[04:24] <Ashex> TheHighChild, Xine
[04:24] <moparisthebest> a few days ago it restarted itself and i got a message saying it was disabling sound cause that was the problem
[04:25] <TheHighChild> moparisthebest: Have you tried rebooting your machine first?
[04:25] <moparisthebest> but i want to reenable it now and I cant find how?
[04:25] <dr_willis> vista - egads - thats going to be scary
[04:25] <moparisthebest> yes quite a few times
[04:25] <moparisthebest> according to kinfocenter
[04:25] <moparisthebest> NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[04:25] <moparisthebest> for synth and midi devices
[04:25] <TheHighChild> moparisthebest: Open up kmix and make sure master and pcm volumes are enabled and at a reasonablelevel
[04:26] <moparisthebest> yep, did that
[04:26] <Ashex> TheHighChild, I tried switching to arts, but i got a barrage of errors and then amarok crashed
[04:26] <TheHighChild> moparisthebest: Sorry, I am not great with sound problems. I just know that the whole PCm volume thing has tripped me up in the apst
[04:26] <TheHighChild> Ashex: Yeah, Xine is the way to go. Not sure why you would have trouble with it.
[04:27] <TheHighChild> Ashex: I guess the next step is to play some music with xine player and see if they sound the same, better, etc. If they sound better with xine player, it's probably something with Amarok
[04:28] <TheHighChild> Ashex: But from my experience, xmms is teh sucks
[04:28] <dr_willis> i tend to use xmms. no issues with it.
[04:28] <dr_willis> but my needs are minimal. :P
[04:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> I like my library, but whatever floats your boat. :)
[04:28] <Ashex> TheHighChild, I'm playing it in xmms and it sounds a lot better to me for some reason
[04:28] <TheHighChild> dr_willis: I dig the simple interface but it crashes on my constantly. Probably because my collection is a little obsessive compulsive
[04:29] <dr_willis> you are doing good to crash xmms.. its been around for ages.
[04:29] <dr_willis> sounds like it could be a sound driver issue :) or plugin issue.. ive had no sound issues  tat i can ever recall. :) it pays to get decent soundcards
[04:30] <TheHighChild> His xmms is good, he's having trouble with amarok
[04:30] <moparisthebest> lol im having sound issues too, but my devices are disabled somehow
[04:30] <moparisthebest> it says my synth and midi devices are not enabled in config
[04:30] <moparisthebest> any ideas how I would enable them?
[04:31] <Ashex> dr_willis, I used to have an audigy 2 card, but it was 4 years old and finally died on me. I've had to use the onboard sound for this mobo, but it's pretty decent so far
[04:32] <Kr4t05> Noob Question: How do I change my password?
[04:32] <TheHighChild> Kr4t05: passwd
[04:32] <dr_willis> I got an audigy2zs right now. :P
[04:32] <Kr4t05> TheHighChild, Danke
[04:32] <TheHighChild> for you, just type passwd.  for another user, type sudo passwd username
[04:32] <dr_willis> Creative has some decent cards now for the $30-50 range. :)
[04:33] <Ashex> I'd buy another sound card right now
[04:33] <dr_willis> ok cards in the $25 range. :)
[04:33] <TheHighChild> Kr4t05: Kein problem
[04:33] <Ashex> but i just blew 500 bucks on upgrades
[04:33] <Ashex> :P
[04:33] <Kr4t05> Ashex, I plan to blow about $150
[04:34] <TheHighChild> I'd get a soundcard if I had any confidence on Linux being able to support it.
[04:34] <Ashex> heh
[04:34] <Kr4t05> That's new stuff for this rig and parts for another box I'm getting up for remote storage.
[04:34] <Ashex> i'm not even sure if mine counts as an upgrade
[04:34] <MehAdult> TheHighChild: SB Lives have great support (except the 24 bit 7.1)
[04:34] <Ashex> new mobo, cpu, ram, case, psu, and hd
[04:34] <Ashex> all i'm keeping is the video card one hd and the cd burner
[04:34] <Kr4t05> Ashex, that's just a rebuild.
[04:35] <TheHighChild> MehAdult: No idea what that is. I am sound retarded but if you have a suggested model and have experience with getting working under Tux, I'll take a look
[04:35] <Hawkwind> TheHighChild: Any SBLive card will work. Even 7.1 is supported as mine works out of the box
[04:35] <MehAdult> Creative is the creater.
[04:35] <Kr4t05> My AC'97 onboard (I'm not one to spend too much money on a Sound Card) wasn't supported until Breezy, for some reason.
[04:36] <Hawkwind> TheHighChild: You can get Creative SoundBlaster SBLive cards from Walmart
[04:36] <TheHighChild> Hawkwind: Awesome, thanks. What is the setup like? Recognition on boot, or is there a package to download?
[04:36] <MehAdult> Hawkwind: Yeah it works but on Mandriva not as great. At least Ubuntu works fine.
[04:36] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind, they're overpriced.
[04:36] <TheHighChild> Hawkwind: I'll pay 10x more to have to ;)
[04:36] <TheHighChild> to not have to*
[04:36] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind, everything in the electronics area of Wal-Fart is over-prices.
[04:37] <Hawkwind> TheHighChild: It works on boot for me in every distro I've used them on
[04:37] <Hawkwind> MehAdult: I used mine in Mandriva out of the box as well.  Had it for well over a year
[04:37] <Kr4t05> I got a video card there for 2x what it would have cost from N'Egg.
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: $20 for the SBLive at Walmart.  Hard to beat that price
[04:37] <TheHighChild> sweet. Ill have to check it out, you guys know of any cards that work on tux that are maybe external USB so I cna switch between speakers and headphones?
[04:37] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind, o rly?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Walmart is cheaper than newegg on the basic things
[04:37] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind, hrmm..
[04:38] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind, maybe..
[04:38] <TheHighChild> I'll go without and pay more to not shop at Wal mart. My dignity has a price and it's not falling everyday
[04:38] <Kr4t05> I have a decent speaker set, and a new sound card would enhance that.
[04:41] <Kr4t05> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836116120 <-- My speakers, for those interested.
[04:42] <Art_> What's the best way to check for a bad HD?
[04:46] <MehAdult> fsck?
[04:46] <MehAdult> If I were you I'd back it up now to be sure
[04:46] <Art_> MehAdult, Tried it, no errors.
[04:46] <__mikem> make sure you unmount the file system BEFORE running fsck on it, failing to do so will cause problems
[04:48] <Art_> MehAdult, Got memory corruption errors, ran memtest+, no errors.  Must be the HD.
[04:48] <Hawkwind> How long did you run memtest for ?
[04:48] <Art_> Hawkwind, One full pass.
[04:49] <Hawkwind> Art_: It needs to run for hours.  The longer the better.  Let it run for 12 - 16 hours
[04:49] <Art_> Hawkwind, No, the error shows up right away when I try to use the partition.
[04:50] <Art_> Hawkwind, I'm pretty sure the mem is OK.
[04:50] <Art_> Hawkwind, Works fine on other partitions.
[04:51] <Art_> Hawkwind, How can I check that partition?
[04:51] <Art_> Hawkwind, hda12.
[04:51] <posthuman> me too mike
[04:51] <posthuman> slow and takes too long
[04:51] <posthuman> *slows my comp down*
[04:51] <Hobbsee> of course, it's also more fun if you're compiling on someone else's machine, so it's not slowing yours down.
[04:52] <__mikem> Hello Hobbsee
[04:52] <Hobbsee> hi __mikem
[04:52] <Hobbsee> __mikem: i've decided that its' time to upgrade to edgy.
[04:52] <__mikem> Actually, what I hate is when its compiling for hours, and suddenly make starts complaining about something and aborts
[04:52] <__mikem> Thats cool
[04:53] <__mikem> LEt me know how stable it is
[04:53] <Hawkwind> Art_: Make sure it's unmounted and fsck the partition
[04:54] <Hobbsee> __mikem: ah yeah, gotta love that.
[04:54] <Hobbsee> __mikem: it's not stable. it's broken.
[04:54] <Hobbsee> __mikem: if it's not broken now, then i'tll be more broken by the time i'm done with it.
[04:54] <__mikem> You going to test its limits?
[04:55] <larson9999> TheHighChild: i'm with you there.  it's no bargain to me if a family of 6 worked for 30 cents a day to provide it for me.  we're doing our best to do business only with companies that provide a living wage to all it's workers.  i think the net results is we just buy less :)
[04:55] <Hobbsee> __mikem: well...yeah, probably.  not sure yet.
[04:56] <Hobbsee> __mikem: some of the upgrades to packages i dont want to make without seeing if it's installable in my system.  and i prefer not to use the dirty hack method of doing that.
[04:56] <__mikem> Hobbsee, this is the kind of thing that people typically use virtualization to deal with
[04:56] <Hobbsee> __mikem: also true.  but i havent tried that out.
[04:57] <Hobbsee> __mikem: if i format this machine accidently, i dont lose that much - the most important bit of which is my email
[04:57] <Hobbsee> everything else is backed up onto another computer
[04:58] <__mikem> Yeh, but I would personally find it annoying to install an OS, find out it doesn't work well enough for you to use it, and have to reinstall everything
[04:59] <Hobbsee> __mikem: nah, separate /home, of course
[05:00] <__mikem> YOu have your /home dirrectory on a seperate file system?
[05:00] <Hobbsee> __mikem: besides, i'm a dev, i run crazy stuff all the time - did you ever try out kde 3.5.0 beta 2?  that was shocking
[05:00] <Hobbsee> __mikem: well, it's on a different partition
[05:03] <ironfroggy_LT> are there known issues with, after repartitioning the drive, the proper dev nodes not being created?
[05:03] <__mikem> Have you ever tried doing all your every day tasks in an environment that was not stable with badly writen software?
[05:05] <larson9999> __mikem: you mean ME?
[05:05] <larson9999> as is win ME
[05:05] <__mikem> But I actually meant, in general
[05:07] <JRH3K5> Anyone here know much about icecast?
[05:22] <posthuman> gawd qt-copy is taking   a long time to compile
[05:27] <JRH3K5> Anyone here know where I might find a tutorial on streaming with xmms?
[05:27] <JRH3K5> !streaming
[05:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about streaming - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:27] <JRH3K5> !xmms
[05:27] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:27] <asusathlo> any one know how to check if my all in wonder card is recognized so that tvtime will work?
[05:27] <JRH3K5> Run tvtime?  :P
[05:28] <asusathlo> error says cannot open /dev/video0
[05:29] <asusathlo> Running tvtime 1.0.1.
[05:29] <asusathlo> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
[05:29] <asusathlo> Reading configuration from /home/oem/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
[05:29] <asusathlo> videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[05:36] <skiddex> kubuntu5.x live desktop is like fluxbox - no icons
[05:41] <skiddex> Breezy Badger shows no icons on desktop
[05:42] <skiddex> ?
[05:42] <Cornellius> Badger ?
[05:42] <Cornellius> You know that Dapper Drake is out right ?
[05:42] <skiddex> i cant get dapper drake to load
[05:43] <skiddex> it hangs at the gui
[05:53] <masonus> Hello
[05:54] <masonus> afk
[05:54] <isede> is there any way to use USB TV under kubuntu?
[05:54] <masonus> I'm not sure.
[05:55] <masonus> Is it a hauppaugge wintv card?
[05:55] <masonus> isede?
[06:03] <Cntryboy> where does kubuntu keep the open gl screen savers?
[06:03] <vitaliy_> leaving
[06:04] <Cntryboy> ??
[06:05] <Hobbsee> Cntryboy: rss-glx
[06:06] <Cntryboy> thats the command to download xscreensavers
[06:06] <Cntryboy> where does kubuntu by default keep the open gl screen savers though
[06:07] <angasule> eric doesn't have a menu entry (in fact there is no 'development' menu or anything like that)
[06:08] <isede> masonus: it's a usb ati
[06:08] <Hobbsee> Cntryboy: /usr/share/somethingorother/ScreenSavers is where it keeps the desktop
[06:10] <Cntryboy> nah thats for xscreenservers same as /usr/lib
[06:10] <ironfroggy_LT> anyone up for strange installation issues?
[06:10] <Cntryboy> kubuntu by default has open gl screenys but no xscreenys
[06:10] <ironfroggy_LT> im desperately trying to move from gentoo to kubuntu, but one of my old boxes is giving me lots of trouble.
[06:13] <posthuman> whats your install problem?
[06:15] <ironfroggy_LT> well first i couldnt install because after partitioning, the node for the main partition wasnt available, so the mkfs command failed.
[06:16] <ironfroggy_LT> so i tried to salvage that, failed, and reset the box. now, all i see is "ISOLINUX 3.11 Debian-2006-03-16" and a blinking cursor. there is no CD activity, so its not doing anything at this point.
[06:18] <Lynoure> ironfroggy_LT: the only hint I could find had to do with cd size...
[06:18] <Lynoure> ironfroggy_LT: but I don't know how relevant that is.
[06:19] <ironfroggy_LT> is there a base system image i can download and write to a partition myself?
[06:20] <Lynoure> That person got that when he had burned his images on 650M CDs instead of 700M, resulting I guess in his case in some sort of install cd corruption
[06:21] <Lynoure> ironfroggy_LT: I couldn't find one, sorry. I bet plenty of people have them, though
[06:21] <ironfroggy_LT> i dont even know where to get 650 meg CDs these days
[06:22] <ironfroggy_LT> or maybe there is an install program i could download and run from a non CD-boot environment?
[06:23] <ubuntu> ok i let my kids play on computer and now it telling me no system disk am useing live cd atm is there a way to boot again?
[06:26] <Lynoure> ubuntu: Should be as easy as normal booting. I've haven't used the live cd much, but I belived it is still k-menu->log out->restart
[06:26] <ubuntu> i do but it tells me that i have no system disk and to insert one and press enter
[06:26] <lwells> i just installed a new application, how do i get it to my program menu??
[06:27] <isede> is there a way to use ATI USB TV adapter under kubuntu?
[06:27] <luc45> ubuntu: does your livecd recongize the disk?
[06:27] <lwells> I just installed the VMWare server
[06:27] <Hawkwind> lwells: If you installed it with apt-get it should be there after a couple of minutes or so
[06:27] <Hawkwind> lwells: You probably have to add it with something like kmenuedit
[06:28] <Lynoure> ubuntu: did your kids by any chance change the bios setting to disallow booting from cd?
[06:28] <lwells> I might not even have that installed
[06:30] <ubuntu> no i rechecked the bios its normal so i used the cd to see if they messed up the hd but it looks normal
[06:31] <Lynoure> ubuntu: hmm, are you having trouble booting with the live cd (sounded like it, but now I'm not sure anymore) or booting into installed kubuntu?
[06:31] <ubuntu> booting into installed kubuntu
[06:32] <Lynoure> ubuntu: try reinstalling grub
[06:33] <lwells> where is kmenu edit
[06:33] <Hawkwind> lwells: Install it, sudo apt-get install kmenuedit
[06:34] <lwells> it says it installed already in Adept Manager
[06:34] <ubuntu> haveing a senior moment on installing grub from live cd lol
[06:34] <Hawkwind> lwells: Then from CLI type: kmenuedit
[06:34] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why I can't get screen savers to work? After a certain amount of time it goes black screen and that is it
[06:34] <lwells> CLI??
[06:35] <Hawkwind> lwells: Command Line Interface, terminal, console, konsole
[06:35] <Hawkwind> Whatever you wish to call it
[06:35] <Lynoure> ubuntu: hmm, and I just woke up, too...
[06:36] <lwells> k i got it
[06:36] <lwells> Now I want to add the program to the menu
[06:36] <ubuntu> gonna kick my gears in brb if this doesn't work hehe
[06:36] <Hawkwind> lwells: It's probably in the menus somewhere.  I just don't know where since I don't use KDE.  I use Kubuntu but with E17 as my window manager
[06:37] <timthelion> any thoughts on getting this to work in dapper? :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75443&highlight=suspend2
[06:37] <Cntryboy> Anyone??
[06:37] <timthelion> !suspend2
[06:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about suspend2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:38] <ChefWill> some program on my computer keeps trying to play a sound but its not playing, its just palying as a bleching sound.......anyone know how to find out which program is trying to play the sound?
[06:46] <actinic> how can i have ubuntu boot to command prompt at start up?
[06:46] <timthelion> !etc
[06:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about etc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:49] <Hawkwind> actinic: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=556.0
[06:49] <Hawkwind> actinic: Read that post on my forums
[06:50] <knapper> !repositories
[06:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:50] <knapper> bLEH
[06:51] <knapper> where can I get a list of the repositories to use? mine are all farked.
[06:52] <actinic> tks hawkwind
[06:52] <Hawkwind> !source-o-matic
[06:52] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:52] <Hawkwind> actinic: No problem
[06:52] <Hawkwind> knapper: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[06:53] <Hawkwind> knapper: Read that post on my forums :)
[07:02] <timthelion> i
[07:07] <posthuman> !museek
[07:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about museek - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:09] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:15] <arso> hey guys
[07:15] <arso> how can i manage the firewall
[07:16] <WarOfAttrition> 1 way is firestarter
[07:16] <Lux0r> quick question...Does kubuntu come on a live cd?
[07:16] <arso> WarOfAttrition:  where is that
[07:17] <WarOfAttrition> arso, install it through apt-get or synaptic
[07:17] <arso> Lux0r:  yes
[07:17] <arso> but doesnt linux have a built in firewall?
[07:17] <WarOfAttrition> the linux kernel is it's own firewall, you just have to mess with the iptables, firestarter does some of that through a gui
[07:18] <Lux0r> arso: do i just download the usual kubuntu package and burn it on a cd? (because that didn't work once before)
[07:18] <arso> Lux0r:  it worked for me fine, then i permanently installed it thru the same cd a few days later
[07:18] <arso> Lux0r:  it didnt work for a friend of mine tho, no idea y
[07:18] <WarOfAttrition> Lux0r, you have to burn the iso as a cd image, not burn the iso as a file
[07:19] <timthelion> A firewall blocks worms from comming though holes.  this flexible open source project fills holes as fast as any firewall would and the lack of holes unlike a firewall does not slow your system
[07:20] <timthelion> the reson for a firewall is that it often takes ms a month to fill a hole when the firewall gets updates every week
[07:20] <timthelion> linux fills holes within the hour sometimes.
[07:20] <WarOfAttrition> in that case you're better off with a router firewall
[07:28] <timthelion> warofattrition: in which case?/
[07:29] <WarOfAttrition> timthelion, if you're that serious about protection
[07:30] <timthelion> O i'm behind hardware.  and kubuntu
[07:33] <jontec> I have a quick question, if I am in a certain directory and I issue a location reference will Konsole add the directory that I am in to the reference?
[07:34] <jontec> Anyone here?
[07:34] <unix_infidel> jontec: what do you mean a location reference/
[07:36] <isede> how do i start a screensaver?
[07:36] <timthelion> I get this whenever I try using wine:  Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.  specificaly I want to use this http://www.freewarefiles.com/downloads_counter.php?programid=13849
[07:36] <jontec> root@Kubuntu-on-Tooth:/home/jontec/graphviz-1.10# ./configure includedir=/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/include
[07:36] <isede> !screensaver
[07:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about screensaver - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:36] <jontec> the /usr/lib/....
[07:36] <jontec> part
[07:38] <jontec> What I am trying to do is get this console program, an installation to locate my C headers? Something like that... I'm pretty sure gcc is installed, I checked in adept.
[07:38] <jontec> So I used the location above (and checked in Konqueror) to see if they were there
[07:40] <jontec> Gimme a sec and I will post to that text place on ubuntu if I can find it
[07:45] <jontec> Sorry that took so long here is the link
[07:45] <jontec> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18202
[07:46] <jontec> I think after you read the bit of the readme I added and the ./configure part you'll understan what I mean a little better
[07:46] <marcus___> can someone tell me where the theme installer is?/
[07:48] <jontec> Menu>System Settings> Appearance I believe
[07:48] <jontec> I'm a noob, so don't add too much value
[07:48] <marcus___> thanks for trying
[07:49] <timthelion> can anyone help me with this?  I get this whenever I try using wine:  Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.  specificaly I want to use this http://www.freewarefiles.com/downloads_counter.php?programid=13849
[07:53] <jontec> timthelion:I know nothing at all, but I can help you research if you like, where've you looked and what release are you using?
[07:54] <jontec> of Kubuntu I mean
[07:55] <timthelion> googleing for such a long thing is hard. I am on dapper
[07:55] <jontec> lol
[07:56] <jontec> Have you tried the wikis? On Kubuntu and Ubuntu? But I guess google might look there as well...
[07:56] <jontec> I know of a link to a guide on installing a lot of stuff on Dapper
[07:56] <jontec> I'll see if it has anything about that
[07:56] <timthelion> thanx
[07:58] <jontec> it has something on the installation... if you are in the mood for installing it again O_o but it's not very detailed
[07:58] <jontec> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_a_windows_emulator_.28Wine.29
[07:59] <jontec> there's also a program that I read about a little bit ago that does a lot of the installation for you...
[07:59] <jontec> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177646
[08:01] <timthelion> I did not realise wine was not installed
[08:03] <jontec> If you mean it's packaged with Kubuntu, no... I don't believe...
[08:04] <jontec> But you can download it? I didn't really understand what you were saying...
[08:06] <timthelion> in konqueror there was an open in wine link.  typing apt-get install wine fixed the probelem
[08:07] <jontec> oooo gotcha
[08:08] <rene> good morning. i am trying to complete a fresh install with easyubuntu to install the missing stuff. it seems the plf repository which easyubuntu uses for multimedia capabilities is down. anyone else has this problem and solved it?
[08:09] <jontec> I'm not sure if there are any real help people here right now... O_o
[08:09] <jontec> hey wait, you may be able to try the #ubuntu channel
[08:09] <rene> jontec you arent one of those "help people" ;)
[08:09] <rene> ?
[08:10] <jontec> nope
[08:10] <jontec> lol
[08:10] <rene> ok thx i ll try my luck over in #ubuntu
[08:10] <jontec> k
[08:39] (jontec/#kubuntu) as in that package's installationd depends on the installation on all of the others?
[09:33] <kraut> moin
[10:01] <Lynoure> hmmm
[10:15] <Lynoure> Looks worrysome.
[10:16] <murtun> hey all
[10:17] <murtun> quickquestion...
[10:18] <murtun> I am on Fluxbox atm, but wen i use KDE it dosn't let me hitthe enter key, "executing commands, sending IM messages, breaking a line in a tezt editor"
[10:18] <murtun> What should i do?
[10:18] <murtun> Should i reinstall KDE?
[10:29] <_JP> how do i find out / change "lock session" shortcut?
[10:31] <_JP> *bling* nevermind :)
[10:31] <_JP> it's funny how often you find the solution yourself right after posting a question somewhere
[10:35] <link_36p> Funny how no ones in the channel :S
[10:35] <link_36p> lol
[10:51] <kitababe> er det noen her
[10:53] <I_Eat_Plastic> avi.. video.. wont play. help please.
[10:57] <dirjob> Hey
[11:06] <thyko> how do i make my boot console have colors?
[11:10] <thyko> when the drivers are loading and stuff?
[11:17] <lars> Hi.. anyone here with a lot of time to spend on a total kubuntu-newbie..?
[11:22] <Breadmachine> lars: im no expert, but i can try and help
[11:23] <Breadmachine> lars; you still there buddy?
[11:24] <lars> breadmachine.. yeah, just away a sec..
[11:25] <Breadmachine> lars: well, lets see if I can help ya out
[11:25] <lars> breadmachine.. and I'd be really happy if you'd try to help me..*G*
[11:25] <Breadmachine> crap. now i have a problem again!!!
[11:25] <Breadmachine> lars: go for it, the only stupid question is the unasked kind
[11:26] <Breadmachine> !resfix
[11:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about resfix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:27] <lars> Well I tried to install kmplayer, but soehow I got lost in a looong line opf dependencies, among which I cannot find some.. i.e. the dpkg=>1.13.20
[11:28] <Breadmachine> lars: wow.....ummmm....im not really a media guy...im not sure if i can help after all...
[11:28] <Breadmachine> anyone?
[11:30] <lars> Is it a common problem, that a program depends on another, which is depending on two more, which then again requests 4 others, who thennnnn *big sigh* ?
[11:31] <word> ummm..not really....but if it does happen the ammount of packages shouldn't be 'too' significant
[11:32] <lars> Well, I've tried to write down just some of the dependencies, and I've reached 122 so far..
[11:32] <lars> but to ask another Q in the same line.. Do you know of any guide to configuring things in kubuntu ?
[11:34] <lars> anyone ?
[11:35] <Lynoure> lars: if you are doing a big upgrade, yp, that happens
[11:35] <lars> "Big upgrade", I simply (??) tried to get the kmplayer..
[11:36] <Lynoure> lars: and you have kubuntu already?
[11:36] <lars> Yep.. installed it yestoday..-so I'm a total newbie..
[11:36] <Lynoure> lars: if not, kmplayer might pull all the kde stuff it thinks it needs, a lot, that is. I'm not on my kubuntu machine now, so cannot do apt-get simulation to compare.
[11:38] <lars> Ok ay, but then I read from your answe, that kmplayer IS a 'tough case'..?
[11:38] <lars> Then I might try to try it out with something less difficult, just to get the hang of it
[11:41] <Gioacchino> hello !
[11:41] <ttalbert45a_22> salut
[11:41] <lars> Would you happen to know of a 'configuration guide' for i.e. pearl, cpio, make and binutils..?
[11:42] <Gioacchino> I havr a problrm when I login  on kubuntu it tell me
[11:42] <Gioacchino> the process for media died unespectli
[11:42] <Gioacchino> and
[11:42] <Gioacchino> the provess for file died unespectli
[11:42] <ttalbert45a_22> personnene parle franais ici ?
[11:43] <Gioacchino> and I can't see the file on the desktop
[11:43] <Gioacchino> ttalbert45a_22:  je parle un pe francais
[11:43] <ttalbert45a_22> voil mon pb : je suis Opra et quand je tchatte  fait des hieroglyphes
[11:44] <ttalbert45a_22> salut Gioacchino
[11:44] <Gioacchino> salut ttalbert45a_22 je suis italien
[11:44] <Kwukki> !fr
[11:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:44] <Kwukki> !it
[11:44] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:45] <ttalbert45a_22> merci
[11:45] <Kwukki> !nl
[11:45] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[11:45] <Gioacchino> !it
[11:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:46] <Gioacchino> !fr
[11:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:46] <ubuntu> just want to say that Kubuntu and Ubuntu rock! :)
[11:47] <Kwukki> true
[11:47] <Kwukki> :-)
[11:47] <Kwukki> don't forget edubuntu and xubuntu h
[11:47] <Gioacchino> !rck
[11:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about rck - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:47] <Gioacchino> !rock
[11:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about rock - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:47] <ubuntu> I've already installed Ubuntu, and now I'm testing Kubuntu  lol
[11:51] <weedar> I'm experiencing choppy mp3 playback - any ideas what might be causing this?
[11:57] <Jack1> hi imbrandon thx it worked fine
[11:58] <Jack1> imbrandon the only prob is that the mouse icon (if its pointed on amarok somewhere) shivers very much
[12:20] <cristiano> hello i have found a mdf image which has been splitted in .md0 and md1, do u know hot to rebuild them?
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> cristiano: use cat
[12:31] <cristiano> hi h3sp4wn
[12:31] <cristiano> i've got a prob with it
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> what do you mean ?
[12:31] <Jack1> h3sp4wn do u have a clue how to listen to the rpm files on the amazon shop site?
[12:31] <cristiano> the mdf file has been splitted in mds, mdf, md0 and md1 files
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: no
[12:32] <cristiano> so i have to rebuild them to obtain a gain a full mdf file before converting it to ISO and opening it
oki thx however i once found a how to but didnt find again
[12:32] <h3sp4wn> custriano: use cat - cat file.md0 > file.mdf - then cat file.md1 >> file.mdf etc etc
[12:33] <cristiano> ah thx! i'll try h3sp4wn :)
[12:35] <cristiano> i was even trying to download nero for linux wondering if it was able to handle file like that ^^
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> custriano: the first file you use > - the second you use >>
[12:35] <cristiano> however looks like cat is working, never thought about using cat in this way
[12:36] <cristiano> ok h3sp4wnso i have these 3 files, mdf, md0 and md1
[12:36] <cristiano> i did now "cat file.md0>file.mdf"
[12:36] <cristiano> then i'll do "cat file.md1>>file.mdf" right?
[12:36] <h3sp4wn> cat file.md0 >> file.mdf
[12:37] <h3sp4wn> Then that should be complete
[12:37] <cristiano> ah so i have to use ">>" not ">"?
[12:37] <h3sp4wn> > overwrites (or creates the file) >> add's to the file that is already there
[12:38] <cristiano> mmmm h3sp4wn sorry but i didn't understand very well :(
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> cristiano: But did it work ?
[12:38] <cristiano> the first one yes
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> cristiano: What do you mean ?
[12:39] <cristiano> i'm now doin "cat file.md1>>file.mdf"
[12:39] <cristiano> i mean i've already done "cat file.md0>file.mdf"
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> cristiano: The first one you could just have used cp (its just so you don't overwrite the source files)
[12:39] <cristiano> ok now even "cat file.md1>>file.mdf" has been completed
[12:40] <cristiano> ah
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> If that doesn't work I don't know how to do it (know nothing about the format)
[12:41] <cristiano> ok i try converting the mdf into ISO and seing if that worked ^^
[12:43] <cristiano> h3sp4wn: looking good about the conversion in ISO with Kiso
[12:47] <cristiano> damn it says that the iso image seems not to be valid...:(
[12:50] <cristiano> uff i better try to find the same file but in another image file
[12:52] <Jack1> amarok causes really high cpu loads should i install kdemultimedia?
[12:53] <crazy_penguin> Good day all!
[12:54] <ajay_> hey crazy_penguin
[12:57] <nolte> moin cp
[12:58] <insanekane> ajay_: indian ?
[12:58] <ajay_> insanekane: yupps
[12:58] <ajay_> u?
[12:58] <insanekane> yeah me too
[12:58] <ajay_> UCOOOOOOOOl
[12:59] <ajay_> insanekane: come to #worlddomination
[12:59] <Philip5> ajay_: hehe, what kind of channel is that? :)
[01:00] <ajay_> Philip5: u r welocme too :)
[01:00] <Philip5> ajay_: are you sure?
[01:00] <ajay_> absolutely
[01:10] <grothesk> Hi there!
[01:10] <mattiM> hi
[01:10] <grothesk> Where do I find k3b 0.12.16 for kubuntu Dapper?
[01:11] <grothesk> Am I missing a repo or is there no 0.12.16 out?
[01:13] <mattiM> well just check www.k3b.org there is no package I now of but you might be able to compile it from source
[01:15] <mattiM> http://k3b.plainblack.com/installation here is the instruction
[01:16] <easynintendo> can someone help me?
[01:16] <easynintendo> i need to mount a drive and give a non root user permission to use the drive
[01:17] <easynintendo> hello?
[01:21] <grothesk> easynintendo: How is it set up in your fstab?
[01:21] <easynintendo> it isnt
[01:22] <easynintendo> i just added the drive to my system
[01:22] <easynintendo> and i dont even know the partitioning layout of it
[01:22] <easynintendo> its /dev/hda though
[01:23] <grothesk> ? When there is not entry in fstab, then your user won't be able to mount it...
[01:23] <easynintendo> well i dont know the partitioning layout to add it to fstab
[01:24] <grothesk> easynintendo: fdisk -l
[01:24] <easynintendo> ok so how do i add an entry into fstab
[01:25] <easynintendo> and also how do i make it automatically mount during boot?
[01:26] <grothesk>  /dev/hdaX       /MOUNTPOINT           ext3    defaults        0       2
[01:26] <easynintendo> !pastebin
[01:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:26] <alessandro> Hi
[01:26] <easynintendo> its not ext3
[01:26] <easynintendo> its NTFS
[01:26] <grothesk> Than chenge it accordingly...
[01:26] <grothesk> It was an example out of my fstab.
[01:27] <alessandro> where do APT store the file after and before installation procedure?
[01:27] <easynintendo> i dont even know how to get into it to edit it
[01:27] <easynintendo> im not good with the commandline
[01:27] <easynintendo> :
[01:27] <easynintendo> :(
[01:27] <grothesk> alessandro: /var/cache/apt/
[01:28] <grothesk> easynintendo: Get some basic knowledge... ;-)
[01:28] <alessandro> grothesk - Thank you
[01:29] <easynintendo> all my handbooks on learning linux are on that drive though:(
[01:29] <easynintendo> http://pastebin.ca/90144
[01:29] <easynintendo> can you tell me what i need to add and how to add it using that?
[01:29] <grothesk> easynintendo: Get a REAL book. Made out of dead wood, you know. ;-)
[01:30] <easynintendo> um i dont have money :(
[01:30] <easynintendo> thats why im using linux cuz its free
[01:30] <roger> too many usability issues with linux. use windows
[01:30] <easynintendo> i cant afford windows:(
[01:30] <omeow> poor you
[01:31] <grothesk> Do you need every partition?
[01:31] <easynintendo> yes
[01:31] <grothesk> I don't have Windows.
[01:32] <grothesk> BTW: You are telling me, you do not have money for windows, but on /hda1 is a bootable windows partition?
[01:32] <easynintendo> its broken
[01:33] <easynintendo> i need the files cuz windows wont boot on it:(
[01:33] <easynintendo> it was from another computer
[01:33] <pautallada> hi, why does kubuntu ask for user password to execute openoffice writer?
[01:33] <pautallada> i dont want to exec it as root
[01:33] <pautallada> what have I done wrong?
[01:34] <grothesk> easynintendo: /dev/hdxy  /mountpoint   ntfs  users,umask=022   0 0
[01:34] <grothesk> Try that one.
[01:34] <easynintendo> um ?
[01:35] <grothesk> Enter it in your fstab.
[01:35] <easynintendo> how?
[01:35] <grothesk> And change the mount point.
[01:35] <easynintendo> change it to what?
[01:35] <grothesk> Where you want it to appear in your tree.
[01:35] <easynintendo> um im confused :(
[01:36] <grothesk> easynintendo: /dev/hdxy  /home/windows   ntfs  users,umask=022   0 0
[01:36] <grothesk> That would make it appear in /home/windows.
[01:36] <easynintendo> um
[01:36] <easynintendo> o
[01:37] <easynintendo> im still confused
[01:37] <easynintendo> :(
[01:37] <easynintendo> im new to linux:(
[01:37] <grothesk> easynintendo: Obviously... *g*
[01:37] <grothesk> easynintendo: ALT-F2
[01:37] <easynintendo> um?
[01:37] <easynintendo> ok?
[01:37] <easynintendo> it wants to know what command to run
[01:37] <grothesk> Then 'kdesu kate /etc/fstab'
[01:39] <alessandro_> Can I clear apt cache during system update? (my disc is full!!)
[01:39] <easynintendo> nothing happened after it asked for my password:(
[01:39] <grothesk> easynintendo: Than you had a typo.
[01:40] <easynintendo> ok it came up now what do i do?
[01:40] <grothesk> You are in fstab now?
[01:40] <easynintendo> yes
[01:40] <grothesk>  /dev/hda1  /mountpoint   ntfs  users,umask=022   0 0
[01:41] <easynintendo> http://pastebin.ca/90151
[01:41] <easynintendo> is whats in there
[01:41] <easynintendo> its different to what u said to do
[01:41] <easynintendo> :(
[01:42] <grothesk> Sure...
[01:42] <grothesk> There is /hdd already in there.
[01:42] <grothesk> But hda is missing.
[01:42] <easynintendo> hdd is where my linux and other windows that doesnt work is
[01:43] <grothesk> But fdisk told something different.
[01:43] <easynintendo> ?
[01:43] <grothesk> And you said that hda ist the one you want to mount...
[01:43] <pautallada> sorry, its my fault, all resolved
[01:43] <pautallada> bye
[01:43] <easynintendo> im confused :(
[01:44] <grothesk> Sorry, I have to leave.
[01:44] <grothesk> Maybe someother is willing to help you...
[01:47] <ChandlerBing> i have a breezy maschine and the display section in system settings -> hardware is missing
[01:48] <ChandlerBing> i cant configure the power down for the displays
[01:48] <ChandlerBing> any ideas?
[01:50] <ravermeister> hello can anybody explan me why i can'g get libvisual support for amarok (1.4.1) in dapper?
[01:51] <mihai> ?
[01:51] <ravermeister> i've found this in the internet, but is it still not solved?
[01:51] <ravermeister> http://www.mail-archive.com/kubuntu-bugs%40lists.ubuntu.com/msg08508.html
[01:53] <ravermeister> please help me....
[01:53] <raymond__> with what?
[01:54] <ravermeister> i can'g get libvisual support for amarok (1.4.1) in dapper?
[01:54] <ravermeister> http://www.mail-archive.com/kubuntu-bugs%40lists.ubuntu.com/msg08507.html
[01:55] <ravermeister> this is what i've foiund
[01:55] <ravermeister> but does the bug still exists or is it solved??
[01:55] <raymond__> do you have al updtes?
[01:56] <raymond__> my amarok is working fine and i have dapper
[01:57] <ravermeister> do you have libvisual support??
[01:57] <raymond__> yes
[01:57] <ravermeister> which version do you have...
[01:57] <ravermeister> sure libvisual not xmms?
[01:57] <raymond__> 1.4.0
[01:58] <raymond__> sorry no it isn't working
[01:58] <raymond__> euhm
[01:58] <ravermeister> :)
[01:58] <ravermeister> i'm very sad about it
[02:22] <BKaj> howdy
[02:34] <niki> Hello
[02:35] <BKaj> hi niki
[02:35] <niki> can you tell me how to install programs to Kubuntu Linux
[02:36] <niki> sorry me for my bad englifh
[02:36] <Hobbsee> !apt
[02:36] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:36] <niki> but I`m from Bulgaria
[02:36] <[Nirvana] > Open the start menu, go to System, and click adept package manager
[02:36] <niki> and I don`t speak it verry well
[02:36] <BKaj> well, you can use ADEPT, in the menu in "System"
[02:37] <niki> thanks
[02:38] <niki> I`ll try
[02:38] <BKaj> and also there is another that you can install thru ADEPT Package Manager and it's called SYNAPTIC Package Manager
[02:38] <[Nirvana] > do you want a bulgrarian translation for your system?
[02:38] <niki> I think no
[02:40] <niki> I`m trying to install skype
[02:40] <[Nirvana] > well, if you ever want to, the package language-support-bg and language-pack-bg
[02:40] <niki> but I don`t know where can I get it
[02:40] <niki> and how to install
[02:40] <[Nirvana] > skype however, can be easily installed using easyubuntu: http://easyubuntu.frecontrib.org
[02:41] <[Nirvana] > oh sorry
[02:41] <[Nirvana] > misspelt the link
[02:41] <[Nirvana] > http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:42] <coretti> qualcuno parla italiano?
[02:43] <[Nirvana] > #kubuntu-it
[02:43] <[Nirvana] > coretti, vai alla #kubuntu-it
[02:43] <[Nirvana] > (means go to, I don't know Italian)
[02:47] <niki> ok
[02:47] <niki> can you give me language-pack-bg
[02:55] <[Nirvana] > niki:
[02:55] <[Nirvana] > sudo apt-get install language-pack-bg language-support-bg     << enter that in a terminal
[02:55] <[Nirvana] > ^^ In the konsole I mean, go to Start > System > Konsole and enter that
[02:55] <[Nirvana] > niki: did my message get thru?
[02:55] <niki> yes
[02:55] <niki> thanks
[02:55] <niki> :)
[02:56] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting in 5 minutes #kubuntu-meeting
[02:56] <Riddell> err, no
[02:56] <Riddell> #ubuntu-meeting
[02:57] <[Nirvana] > hehe
[02:58] <gnuton> Hi all!
[03:02] <BKaj> Is there a video decode encode program similar to nero vision , available for converting burning video files ?
[03:05] <gnuton> BKaj- ffmpeg?
[03:05] <gnuton> BKaj: but it works only in textual mode!
[03:06] <BKaj> no I'm a still anoob and used to using windows so , konsole based cmds are still difficult for me
[03:07] <[Nirvana] > gnuton: yes, but it's still good, just read the man page (man ffmpeg after you install it) and you will learn all about it
[03:08] <gnuton> [Nirvana] : i think that exist more gui for it (sorry for my bad english! :/ ), and it's really easy to use :)
[03:11] <[Nirvana] > there's kino, but that's just to edit I believe
[03:11] <omeow> Have a look here, http://kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=221 BKaj.
[03:12] <[Nirvana] > omeow: bad link? what's the prog. called?
[03:12] <omeow> It's not a program. It's a catagory.
[03:13] <gnuton> yes kino is a non linear editor, i think that ffmepg is the best tool for encode/decode video/audio.
[03:14] <jake> hey, I have a question about partitions
[03:14] <[Nirvana] > try kmedia factory, it might provide a gui, but the damn previews aren't loading
[03:14] <MehAdult> !ask
[03:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:15] <jake> Hehe, alright then. IN short, I have no idea how partitions work. I have an XP Disk an I was wondering if I could have a partition with windows on (yuck) but keep Kubuntu as my main OS
[03:16] <MehAdult> Yes you can.
[03:16] <MehAdult> Install winblows first then linux
[03:16] <[Nirvana] > !partition
[03:16] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[03:16] <MehAdult> Otherwise you'll have bootloader issues (you can reinstall linux afterward without deleting data)
[03:16] <jake> You need to do windows first? bugger
[03:17] <[Nirvana] > you can do it the other way as well
[03:17] <MehAdult> Yeah it's easier
[03:17] <[Nirvana] > as long as you have a live cd
[03:17] <jake> Hmmm
[03:17] <MehAdult> And on linux partitions are usually found in /dev/ under hda1, hda2, hdb1, hdb2... or sda for sata/usb
[03:17] <MehAdult> I think
[03:17] <MehAdult> It might be slightly different for sda
[03:17] <jake> Hmmm
[03:18] <MehAdult> Then you mount them using the mount command, then umount when done.
[03:18] <MehAdult> ALWAYS umount before removing a drive (even cds)
[03:18] <jake> Things would be so much easier if  EA made heir games for Linux...
[03:18] <MehAdult> Ahh
[03:18] <jake> I think I'm gonna leave Windows to my brother's Box's and keep my laptop as it is
[03:19] <ranunculoid> To whom do I report a memory leak in X?
[03:19] <[Nirvana] > ranunculoid: launchpad?
[03:19] <[Nirvana] > http://launchpad.net
[03:19] <[Nirvana] > go to ubuntu, find the X pkg, report a bug
[03:19] <ranunculoid> Thanks [Nirvana] 
[03:21] <ranunculoid> [Nirvana] : I'm a newb at this stuff: what do I say in the description? Do I have to give memory adresses or other stuff I dont know how to do?
[03:21] <jake> It really bugs me, it wouldn' be dificult for a games company to release their games for Linux as well as windows and mac, and it would only expand their market. I really don't see the point of not doing it
[03:21] <ranunculoid> It would be difficult
[03:21] <[Nirvana] > give a readout of the memory it uses
[03:21] <ranunculoid> How do I do that [Nirvana] ?
[03:22] <[Nirvana] > like, use top (terminal proc. manager)
[03:22] <[Nirvana] > or use ps aux |grep x
[03:23] <ranunculoid> Ok i'll use the second one. Now to replicate the bug :-D
[03:24] <coretti> #kubuntu.it
[03:24] <LuisMendes> how can I install 'libxine-extracodecs'? this isn't available in Adept
[03:24] <coretti> #kubuntu_.it
[03:25] <ranunculoid> LuisMendes: It is for me
[03:25] <coretti> chi parla italiano?
[03:25] <ranunculoid> !it
[03:25] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:25] <ranunculoid> :)
[03:25] <ranunculoid> LuisMendes: Are you using the multiverse repos?
[03:25] <LuisMendes> oh well.. and how can I install the libxine-extracodecs? :)
[03:26] <sal> Hello, i would like to know how to change the rotation of my ATI driver using buntu. Thank you.
[03:26] <LuisMendes> ranunculoid, let me check
[03:26] <ranunculoid> "apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" works for me
[03:27] <nolte> Are the kubuntu ubuntu and ubuntu-server using all the same kernel version ?
[03:27] <LuisMendes> ranunculoid, I don't see multiverse in my repos list.. how can I add it?
[03:28] <ranunculoid> I'll pm you my sources list and just copy it into yours
[03:28] <gnuton> there is a good ftp client for kde?
[03:29] <[Nirvana] > kbear
[03:30] <gnuton> kbear crash when i drag & drop directory :(
[03:31] <Ash-Fox> gnuton, check the bugzilla for that project?
[03:32] <gnuton> Ash-Fox, ok !
[03:33] <Ash-Fox> If it's not there, you can submit a bug report on it. :)
[03:35] <gnuton> mmm i think that kio_ftp in konqeuror is better! =)
[03:36] <gnuton> i've a question, is possible (and safe!) recompile the kdelibs & kdebase with -03 optimization?
[03:39] <larson9999> on a default kubuntu dapper installation, what do you need to do the get you supported dvd drive to work?  and why doesn't it get an entry in fstab?
[03:39] <thoreauputic> gnuton: and get .003 % faster performance? What about "prelink"
[03:40] <gnuton> thoreauputic: ok!
[03:40] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:41] <bingbonglalapum> hi
[03:42] <bingbonglalapum> Can someone tell me what the program Katapult does in Kubuntu? When I start it a nice looking icon is displayed and then nothing happens. Please help
[03:42] <Kwukki> same problem :-s
[03:43] <ajayc> hey BKaj
[03:43] <gnuton> bingbonglalapum: katapult is orrible! :P
[03:44] <bingbonglalapum> gnuton: what does it do?
[03:45] <ranunculoid> Yeah what's Katapult for?
[03:46] <Kwukki> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33985
[03:46] <gnuton> i think that popupEcecuteCommand of kdesktop (SuSE version) is very better!
[03:46] <thoreauputic> apt-cache show katapult   ;p
[03:49] <bingbonglalapum> Kwukki: thoreauputic, thanks a lot
[03:50] <Kwukki> no, thanks to profoX` @ #ubuntu-nl
[03:50] <ranunculoid> Why use katapult when you can just press alt f2 and launch from there?
[03:50] <Kwukki> i knox
[03:50] <Kwukki> a  nice gui?
[03:50] <gnuton> nice? :P
[03:50] <ranunculoid> For like 1.25 seconds
[03:51] <Kwukki> a non-command line gui
[03:51] <gnuton> a fake trasparent is not a nice gui
[03:53] <bingbonglalapum> I wonder when the good guys at KDE are going to roll out ver 4.0... I am not getting any sleep thinking about it.
[03:58] <KDEfanboy> if there's a money pool going around, put me down for Jan 07
[04:07] <grothesk> Where do I get emovix for Dapper?
[04:07] <serenity> i installed jre, but azureus do not start. It says "java not found". How activate it?
[04:08] <grothesk> serenity: Was does 'java -version' tell you?
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> serenity: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:09] <serenity> not found, but in adept it is marked as installed
[04:11] <serenity> h3sp4wn: i selected my java version, but java -version says "not found"
[04:11] <BKaj> try synaptic
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> serenity: Are you using the java in multiverse or using java-package ?
[04:12] <serenity> multiverse
[04:12] <serenity> sun-jre
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> Installed with apt-get or aptitude (adept won't let you accept the license as far as I know)
[04:14] <serenity> aptitude
[04:16] <Chameleon22> trying to add kqemu as a device, manually it works fine(mknod /dev/kqemu;mknod /dev/kqemu c 250 0;chmpd 666). When I add kernel module to /etc/modules and following rule KERNEL="kqemu", NAME="%k" GROUP="kqemu", MODE="0660" (group exists)  to /etc/udev/rules.d/... and reboot I still dont get the damn device generated. Any ideas?
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> Chameleon22: Have you added anything to /etc/modprobe.d ?
[04:18] <Chameleon22> h3sp4wn, no i have not
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> Chameleon22: I have 'options kqemu major=0' in /etc/modprobe.d/kqemu
[04:19] <Chameleon22> h3sp4wn, do you also have it in /etc/udev and /etc/modules or modprobe is the only place ?
[04:19] <Ash-Fox> God, my ISP is just sucking for DNS these days *sets up bind*
[04:19] <h3sp4wn> Chameleon22: And 'KERNEL=="kqemu", SYMLINK="qvm86", MODE="0666"' in /etc/udev/rules.d/90-kqemu.rules
[04:20] <Chameleon22> h3sp4wn, whats qvm86?
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> Chameleon22: I don't know but I found some doc's buried away somewhere that said that was the way to do it
[04:20] <gnuton> Bye all!
[04:21] <Chameleon22> h3sp4wn, and it works fine?
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> Chameleon22: Yep
[04:21] <Chameleon22> h3sp4wn, okies cool, time to give that a whirl - thank you
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> Chameleon22: I still have to have kqemu in /etc/modules though
[04:21] <Chameleon22> yep
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> Chameleon22: I don't know how to get it be autoloaded
[04:22] <Chameleon22> eh above is good enough
[04:23] <osh_> Is there something similar to gnomes "bug buddy" for KDE/Kubuntu?
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> some programs offer to send a backtrace if they crash
[04:24] <Ash-Fox> Ack, where does one set manually the nameservers? I thought it was /etc/named.conf ?
[04:25] <osh_> h3sp4wn: Sure but bug-buddy does a bit more doesn't it? I'm just curious because I think the bug-buddy is a great idea.
[04:26] <osh_> Ash-Fox: /etc/nsswitch.conf  IIRC.
[04:26] <osh_> Ash-Fox: No, sorry. /etc/resolv.conf
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> osh_: I don't know I think it could be a bad idea if it did not have provisions for people writing bug reports which don't have enough information
[04:27] <osh_> Ash-Fox: Both nameserver related though.
[04:27] <Ash-Fox> osh_, ah! thankyou!
[04:27] <Thazza> Hey All
[04:27] <Thazza> Can anyone help me with a simple mounting drive issue??
[04:27] <osh_> h3sp4wn: How does the gnome ppl do it? Is it useful to them?
[04:27] <osh_> Thazza: probably.
[04:28] <Thazza> osh_: Tar.. I am trying to mount another linux har drive.
[04:28] <Thazza> osh_: Yet no matter what i try and do, only root can read this drive.. Which is not helpful for sharing.
[04:29] <osh_> Thazza: You mount it from /etc/fstab?
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> osh_: I don't know maybe it is - also bug reports won't even be considered (for the kernel anyway) if you are using binary blobs in it
[04:29] <Thazza> osh_: I have been using the command. "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt"
[04:29] <ryanakca> why is adept_notifier taking up 45% cpu & 10%MEM?
[04:29] <Thazza> osh_: Well no.. it is only a tempoary drive in the machine, so i didn't think i needed to add it to fstab
[04:29] <osh_> Thazza: Try the option -o user
[04:29] <Thazza> osh_: it just errors
[04:30] <Thazza> osh_: tells me i am using wrong fs. yet if i remove the -o user, it will mount fine, yet only root can read it.
[04:31] <osh_> Thazza: What kind of fs is it? Try -o user,ext3 (or whatever fs you have)
[04:31] <Thazza> osh_: Ok i feel like an idiot now.
[04:32] <Thazza> osh_: i was replacing user with a username. LOL fixed. Thank you.
[04:32] <osh_> Thazza: no problem.
[04:34] <osh_> Thazza: We all make stupid misstakes. I turned off the pwr to my TP9400-JBOD while before shutting down the fileserver. Not my finest hour either.
[04:34] <osh_> Thazza: and the switch is -t ext3 to specify fs-type.
[04:34] <osh_> Thazza: if needed.
[04:35] <tjeerd> im a new beginner in kubuntu someone who ken help  me to make my kubuntu better?
[04:39] <ryanakca> tjeerd: how... look, apps, what?
[04:39] <diezare> Guys, when i try to rune guarddog it gives me an error message stating that I can't use all of it's features since I don't have administrator privilages, is their a way which I can get to administrator mode throughit?
[04:41] <osh_> diezare: kdesu guarddog?
[04:41] <diezare> wut?
[04:42] <diezare> i tried it, it sasy cann't connect to xserver
[04:42] <ryanakca> go alt-f2, and type this in:  kdesu guarddog
[04:42] <osh_> diezare: dunno what guarddog is but if you can start it on the command-line then prepend it with kdesu to have it run as root. that should fix the permissions problems.
[04:42] <diezare> Oh! it works now, thanks alot.
[05:11] <skavenge> im at wits end trying to compile a kde app, Qt and all its headers and libraries claim they are installed and no ./configure will find Qt .. can anyone help?
[05:11] <omeow> Did you install the meta package kde-devel?
[05:12] <skavenge> checking ..
[05:12] <skavenge> seems im missing some parts so it yes, installing now
[05:13] <ajayc> crazy_penguin: welcome!
[05:13] <imbrandon> skavenge, " sudo apt-get build-dep kdelibs4-dev " will get the required stuff too
[05:14] <skavenge> imbrandon: i think ive done that one will check after this installs
[05:14] <imbrandon> skavenge, what are you compliing , why not install from the repos ?
[05:15] <omeow> ten bux betting that there isn't an ubuntu package for whatever he's trying to install.
[05:15] <skavenge> i would if there was one, i want kemulator, a emu frontend, or ksnes9x .. i dont see any gui frontends for kde in the repos ;/
[05:15] <gnomefreak> he said its not in repos when i asked yesterdya
[05:15] <omeow> toldddddddd
[05:16] <imbrandon> omeow, thats real helpfull ;)
[05:16] <skavenge> kemulator should be in the repos, cool program the frontends -alot- of emulators at the same time
[05:16] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: ever used advancemenu ?
[05:16] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: advancemame and advancemenu are the best mame frontends I think
[05:17] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, those dont look like snes front ends nor kde ones
[05:17] <skavenge> h3sp4wn: mame only though?
[05:17] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: true - but I think I should make packages of them
[05:18] <imbrandon> have at it ;)
[05:18] <imbrandon> hehe
[05:18] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: Best snes emulator is zsnes - the WIP builds are alot faster in high res
[05:18] <skavenge> kemulator will do snes9x, dgen, FCE, etc
[05:18] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, snes9x is good to
[05:18] <skavenge> i severly dislike zsnes, it is very buggy for me, crashes often
[05:18] <skavenge> ive not had that problem with snes9x
[05:19] <imbrandon> skavenge, me also
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: I find it doesn't work well at 1280 by 1024
[05:19] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, well znes dosent work at all on 3 or 4 boxes here
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: using 1.42 or WIP 1.43 ?
[05:20] <imbrandon> no idea , i like snesx so i stuck with it, far less bugs
[05:20] <skavenge> *sigh* well getting kde-devel didnt help, it still cant find Qt ... unless i need to restart for something
[05:20] <imbrandon> besides 1280 x 1024 snes gmes are kinda pointless ;)
[05:21] <imbrandon> skavenge, sounds like a broken config script
[05:21] <skavenge> everything else in ubuntu has gone golden i cant believe i cant get a simple app compiled .. id give money for a deb right now ;/
[05:21] <skavenge> imbrandon: two of them give me the same error
[05:21] <imbrandon> skavenge, whats the url for upstream ?
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: You can use the high quality filters and make it look alot better - and it runs really fast
[05:22] <skavenge> both cant find Qt, i was thinking it had been moved in ubuntu or something but people tell me no
[05:22] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, still pointless with 8 bit graphics
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: My lcd panel needs to run at 1280 by 1024 or else it looks pants (as most do)
[05:22] <skavenge> imbrandon: url for what?
[05:22] <imbrandon> upstream kemulator
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: Looks clearer than a real snes
[05:22] <skavenge> imbrandon: i got it off kemulator.sourceforge.net
[05:22] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, thats the downfall of your lcd then ;)
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: All lcd's look bad at anything other than their native resolution
[05:23] <skavenge> kdelibs4-dev is installed too .. i really dunno whats wrong ;/
[05:24] <imbrandon> i dident say install it i said build-dep it, hold on i'm going to look at it
[05:24] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: its not been updated for 3 years
[05:25] <skavenge> h3sp4wn: the program? yeah thats why i thought qt may be somewhere else now and its just not in the path but i cant get any verification of this from anyone
[05:27] <imbrandon> skavenge, this is OLD , build dep on qt 2.2
[05:27] <skavenge> imbrandon: i have all the Qt 1.x 2.x compat headers installed as well, this should still work, besides it cant find ANY version of Qt
[05:28] <imbrandon> compat headers arent the same always ( look at qt 3 > qt4 ) functions renamed etc
[05:28] <imbrandon> from like QTListBox to QT3ListBox
[05:28] <imbrandon> etc
[05:29] <skavenge> ;/ horrible frontend like gsnes9x in the repos and not one for KDE .. thats sad.
[05:29] <imbrandon> skavenge, well if upstream would update this once a year or so atleaste i would package it
[05:29] <imbrandon> but not as it
[05:29] <imbrandon> is right now
[05:30] <skavenge> *sigh* i guess im out of luck .. i wonder if its the age or if i can compile -anything- with Qt
[05:31] <imbrandon> its the age
[05:31] <imbrandon> i just tried it myself
[05:31] <imbrandon> and i compile qt stuff every day
[05:31] <skavenge> you got the same error imbrandon?
[05:32] <imbrandon> thats how i know its looking for qt 2.2 ;P
[05:32] <skavenge> well that makes me feel a little better at least its not something stupid im missing ;)
[05:32] <skavenge> bummer i guess i run snes9x fron cli then
[05:33] <skavenge> im sure ive got a gig of libs i dont even need now trying to get that to work hah
[05:34] <Pupeno> the documentation /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.0/README.Debian.gz says that for setting up a MySQL cluster, the config file /etc/mysql/ndb_mgmd.cnf is needed but it says nothing about what it should contain. Is it the same as the config.ini described here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysql-cluster-quick.html ?
[05:36] <holotone> 'morning, ya'll
[05:37] <holotone> Could someone tell me why I still get Gnome dialogue boxes everywhere (ie saving pictures from Firefox, etc..) when I am running Kubuntu?
[05:37] <holotone> full disclosure: Installed Ubuntu, then apt get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: configure.in needs to be fixed and then regenerated with autoconf
[05:38] <skavenge> h3sp4wn: 'fixed'? i looked into ./configure but its beyond me honestly
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: you run autoconf configure.in to generate ./configure (it is for qt2)
[05:39] <skavenge> how does configure.in need to be fixed though?
[05:39] <holotone> Any ideas?
[05:40] <Pupeno> holotone: maybe because you still have the firegox gnome integratio... try searching for it in the packages you have installed and uninstall it.
[05:41] <holotone> if I uninstall it, will it default back to kde, or do I need to manually install that?
[05:42] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:42] <skavenge> h3sp4wn: do paths need to be changed or how does one fix configure.in?
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: configure.in uses the m4 macros to generate ./configure
[05:44] <skavenge> h3sp4wn: i dont even know what that means i guess fixing is beyond me for now
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: It is also beyond me probably
[05:46] <skavenge> h3sp4wn: oh well thanks for taking a look at it
[05:47] <skavenge> if its that old i wonder how well it runs anyway
[05:48] <skavenge> anyone know what this means - ** (process:18576): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[05:48] <uwo> hi all - i would like to know, how i can "freeze" a certain package on adept ("lock version" on synaptic) to prevent it always wanting to be upgraded?
[05:49] <Hawkwind> uwo: You can use dpkg to hold it so it doesn't get upgraded.  Not sure if you can do it within Adept or not
[05:58] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[05:58] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:58] <Ash-Fox> !mp3
[05:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:58] <uwo> hawkwind - will that fool the adept notifier? how exactly do i do this on the ffmpeg package? (installed 1.cvxXXXXX, available 3.cvsXXX)
[05:58] <charlie5> hullooo ...
[05:58] <Ash-Fox> !ati
[05:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:58] <charlie5> did I buy a crock ? ... :)
[05:58] <Ash-Fox> charlie5, ask your printer manufactorer about that.
[05:58] <charlie5> Ash-Fox: good idea ... a bit OT sorry ... i just wondered if it was a usual thing
[05:58] <Ash-Fox> No, not really normal at all. But your printer maker would know about specific printer models more than we would.
[05:58] <charlie5> Ash-Fox: sure ... and thanks, i'll send them a query.
[05:58] <matlec> hi
[05:58] <charlie5> hi matlec
[05:58] <matlec> where can I find the sources for kubuntu (I mean the kubuntu part only)?
[05:58] <Jack1> hi imbrandon
[05:58] <BKaj> !kubuntu
[05:58] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <BKaj> got that matlec?
[05:58] <matlec> ubotu: I know, but kubuntu contains patches for kde...
[05:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about I know, but kubuntu contains patches for kde... - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:58] <Jack1> imbrandon the amarok u gave me causes a high cpu load and the mouse icon shivers for some reason extremely..apart from that everything is fine
[05:58] <matlec> !kubuntu
[05:58] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> matlec: just look in the archive they are available
[05:59] <imbrandon> Jack1, well its a beta ;)
[05:59] <matlec> h3sp4wn: thanks, I'll the a look at that
[06:00] <matlec> h3sp4wn: are the sources in the archive current? ;-)
[06:00] <Jack1> imbrandon sure a clue for the cpu load?
[06:01] <weihello> hi, has anybody heard the BOLDTECH INC?
[06:01] <imbrandon> Jack1, no idea, i just package amarok i dont develop it ;)
[06:01] <imbrandon> Jack1, try #amarok though
[06:01] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> matlec: debootstrap edgy for the latest ones
[06:02] <Breadmachine> hi all
[06:02] <matlec> h3sp4wn: is there no easier way?
[06:02] <matlec> h3sp4wn: no svn, cvs or something?
[06:02] <imbrandon> packages.ubuntu.com
[06:03] <imbrandon> no svn or cvs
[06:03] <matlec> :-(
[06:03] <Breadmachine> im havin probs with my resolution again, i got the nvidia-glx drivers, and the restricted module, and the nvidia splash screen shows up, but i cant change my resolution at all!
[06:03] <imbrandon> !xorg
[06:03] <weihello> use eclipse local history....
[06:03] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:04] <weihello> matlec,  use eclipse local history....
[06:04] <matlec> weihello: I don't use eclipse
[06:04] <ryanakca> how do you make konqueror open text internally (in other words, without opening up an external text editor such as kate, kedit, etc)
[06:05] <matlec> weihello: is eclipse the "default" ide for kubuntu development?
[06:07] <matlec> weihello: can't send private messages due to server restrictions
[06:07] <matlec> weihello: will register now :-)
[06:12] <Pupeno> Any firewall configuring tools that support IPv6 ?
[06:16] <serenity> hi
[06:17] <serenity> is there a app for transcoding a dvd9 to dvd5? With gui
[06:17] <Hawkwind> k9copy, and many others out there
[06:18] <serenity> but all rely on the shell-tool transcode, yipp?
[06:18] <skavenge> k9copy rips off a dvd9 straight to a dvd5 iso, pretty nice program
[06:19] <Hawkwind> serenity: k9copy is extremely nice.  It's a GUI app that just works
[06:22] <BKaj> cool , just installed k9copy...we'll see how good it is soon :)
[06:39] <jontec> I'm having a problem with adept. How can I close all of the non-needed applications?
[06:40] <jontec> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[06:40] <jontec> I know for a fact that I am not running one.
[06:41] <jontec> I had a problem this morning with adept. I'm trying to get sun-java-bin and build-essentials.
[06:41] <[GuS] > jontec,  thats is a know problem with dialog
[06:41] <[GuS] > try to install it under konsole
[06:42] <[GuS] > is about sun-java* packages
[06:42] <jontec> I have all of the packages downloaded...
[06:42] <jontec> will I have to install them again?
[06:42] <jontec> I mean download
[06:42] <[GuS] > if the are downloaded then kubuntu wil use them.....
[06:42] <jontec> okay, thanks
[06:43] <[GuS] > just install those under konsole
[06:43] <[GuS] > sudo apt-get install package*
[06:43] <[GuS] > or reinstall it
[06:43] <[GuS] > sudo apt-get install package --reinstall
[06:43] <king_diamond_20> hola
[06:44] <[GuS] > Al king_diamond_20
[06:44] <king_diamond_20> como tamos
[06:44] <[GuS] > Sentados :P
[06:44] <jontec> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:44] <king_diamond_20> jaaa
[06:44] <Zerb_Riss> is there a way to force my compiled Kopete packages to overwrite the apt package?
[06:44] <[GuS] > yes jontec
[06:44] <[GuS] > do that command
[06:45] <[GuS] > sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:45] <king_diamond_20> en kubuntu puedo defragmentar el disco?
[06:45] <[GuS] > because the install process was interrupted.
[06:45] <raphink> king_diamond_20: por favor, /join #kubuntu-es
[06:45] <[GuS] > king_diamond_20,  antes que nada este canal no es en spaol
[06:45] <king_diamond_20> ok
[06:45] <[GuS] > lo que dijo raphink  :P
[06:46] <raphink> [GuS] : si, ya lo se :)
[06:46] <raphink> jeje
[06:46] <raphink> np ;)
[06:46] <[GuS] > :P
[06:46] <king_diamond_20> igual gracias
[06:46] <king_diamond_20> chao
[06:46] <jontec> so now what?
[06:46] <Zerb_Riss> !kopete
[06:46] <ubotu> kopete is Kopete 0.12 testing packages at http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/
[06:46] <[GuS] > jontec,
[06:46] <[GuS] > please reinstall the package
[06:46] <[GuS] > ti show you again java license
[06:46] <[GuS] > to*
[06:47] <jontec> using adept or Konsole?
[06:47] <[GuS] > sudo apt-get install sun-java* --reinstall
[06:47] <[GuS] > konsole
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> jontec: sudo apt-get install --reinstall sun-java5-bin
[06:48] <[GuS] > is the same h3sp4wn ... --reinstall could be at last.
[06:48] <Zerb_Riss> is there a way to force my compiled Kopete packages to overwrite the apt package?
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> [GuS] : Does he want the jdk ?
[06:48] <Zerb_Riss> (in case anyone didn't see)
[06:49] <[GuS] > <jontec> I had a problem this morning with adept. I'm trying to get sun-java-bin and build-essentials.
[06:49] <jontec> it's working... and it went back to the prompt for me input a command.... so it's done?
[06:49] <[GuS] > yes jontec
[06:49] <[GuS] > i put sun-java* as example h3sp4wn , please read before asking me that :)
[06:50] <h3sp4wn> [GuS] : sun-java* will install sun-java5-source sun-java5-jdk which he doesn't want
[06:50] <[GuS] > i know, but he know what he want
[06:50] <[GuS] > i just give as example
[06:51] <h3sp4wn> people blindly copy examples often
[06:51] <[GuS] > not all
[06:51] <[GuS] > because i put "package" before.
[06:51] <[GuS] > so was an example.
[06:53] <jontec> okay, thanks, if that was all I had to do to setup build-essential as well, then I think it's done
[06:53] <[GuS] > Good =)
[06:54] <feydin> anyone got XGL on kubuntu & amd64 running?
[06:54] <jontec> will I be able to run adept now? or is there something else that I have to fix?
[06:54] <[GuS] > yes you could
[06:54] <[GuS] > is just because in adept, has problem to show sun java license
[06:54] <jontec> okay, thanks
[06:55] <jontec> gotcha
[06:55] <thor> hello
[06:56] <hunter> after I installed my nvidia driver it was all working normally.. but then after I installed this program 3ddesktop nothing will work with the driver unless I open them throught a command-line
[06:56] <hunter> why is that happening ?
[06:57] <hunter> I checked my user permissions and the video group is added
[06:58] <thor> hi there I am totaly new to kubuntu does any one know how I can install the kernel source so that I can install 3rd party drivers for my distribution you know like nvidia drivers and vmware and stuff like that
[06:58] <hunter> doing a xterm -e <program-name> will work fine but just opening the program wont work properly
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> thor: You should only need build-essential and the kernel headers
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> !be
[06:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about be - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> !build-essential
[06:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:00] <hunter> this is weird
[07:00] <thor> ok so you say I just need to install b.e. and kernel headers
[07:00] <thor> and then all the stuff will work
[07:01] <hunter> thor: do a cat /proc/version to make sure what version you need to get of the heathers and stuff
[07:01] <thor> from console right
[07:01] <hunter> thor: yes
[07:02] <thor> ok I got Linux version 2.6.15-23-386 (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006
[07:02] <hunter> so your kernel version is 2.6.15-23-386
[07:03] <thor>  before doing this header and be  download
[07:03] <h3sp4wn> thor: There has been some security updates since then - you may want to upgrade first
[07:04] <thor> ok will do
[07:04] <thor> should I just do a full upgrade with adept then
[07:04] <hunter> then u can install the headers with a sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386
[07:05] <weihello> now i'm updating.... the newest kernel version is 2.6.15-24-386
[07:05] <thor> thanks h3sp4wn you have helped alot
[07:06] <weihello> there r many new updates
[07:06] <weihello> 167M
[07:07] <hunter> does anyone had this problem with nvidia ?
[07:08] <skavenge> why would my opengl screensavers in KDE only run clipped in the upper 3rd of my screen? they were working fine in gnome ..? anyone seen this
[07:11] <Jack1> imbrandon can i uninstall the beta version of amarok but keep the libvisual things and stuff to work with the 141 stable version?
[07:12] <thor> going to upgrade untill later folks
[07:12] <fred> skavenge: likely an issue with the graphic driver
[07:13] <skavenge> its standard vesa
[07:14] <fred> hmm you got X running as vesa, and got trouble displaying 3d ?
[07:14] <fred> seems surprising. i dnt have any suggestion
[07:14] <fred> isnt it very slow ? :)
[07:15] <skavenge> no it flies, even the part of the screensaver i can see is fast but its just not near centered
[07:15] <fred> ok you sure you run as vesa ? i mean 3d in vesa is very slow
[07:17] <fred> "glxinfo | grep direct" <- run this without quote in a terminal
[07:17] <fred> what does this answer ?
[07:17] <skavenge> fred: direct rendering: Yes
[07:17] <fred> this mean that it is not vesa :)
[07:18] <ricardo> anybody using dlink DWL 650 pcmcia card?
[07:18] <fred> so we come back to the 'fix the graphic driver' option :)
[07:18] <skavenge> under 'Display' in kde thats what it says, 'vesa driver (generic)'
[07:19] <fred> skavenge: i would say it is the bug in the display :)
[07:19] <h3sp4wn> !fixres
[07:19] <skavenge> yeah must be
[07:19] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:20] <skavenge> i just cat'd xorg.conf and its really running intel "i810"
[07:20] <skavenge> its actually a i915
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: That fixvideoresolution has a bit specifically about intel chipsets
[07:21] <fred> skavenge: it is an accelerated arch.
[07:21] <skavenge> h3sp4wn: ill take a look thanks .. wierd that nothing else is messed up other than the screensaver
[07:21] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: that 855resolution thing is for intel
[07:22] <fred> skavenge: even other 3d stuff ?
[07:22] <skavenge> i guess i dont really have anything else to test 3d with heh so i dunno
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> skavenge: Try glxgears (if its smooth 3d is probably working)
[07:24] <fred> h3sp4wn: he got DRI
[07:25] <skavenge> 3479 frames in 5.0 seconds = 695.684 FPS thats what i got in glxgears .. and ive already got that package installed from the fixresolutionhowto page
[07:26] <h3sp4wn> fred: I have dri enabled before and when you run glxgears X locks up
[07:27] <thompa> when you install, if you have 2 hard drives, onw with xp, where does grub go?
[07:28] <h3sp4wn> thompa: mbr is easiest
[07:28] <h3sp4wn> thompa: /boot can be anywhere
[07:28] <fred> h3sp4wn: ok
[07:28] <skavenge> how can i check what color bit im running at?
[07:29] <fred> skavenge: glxinfo tell you that somewhere, or xdpyinfo
[07:29] <thompa> h3sp4wn: i already installed, am just curious, beacuse it set everything up
[07:29] <thompa> i guess it installed grub to the windows hard drive
[07:29] <thompa> does that make sense
[07:29] <fred> or xwininfo :)
[07:29] <fred> x is so simple :)
[07:30] <thompa> h3sp4wn: my bios is set to boot hda1 first, ntfs, not hdb1 ext3, so did grub install to mbr on hda1?
[07:31] <thompa> usually i had to edit grub first, sort of confused
[07:31] <h3sp4wn> thompa: I would just install it to the mbr of hda
[07:31] <thor> hi
[07:31] <ramitin> hi
[07:31] <ramitin> im having problem with newest fglrx
[07:32] <ramitin> i was wondering if i could use fglrx packet from old ubuntu Breezy
[07:32] <ramitin> would that be possible?
[07:32] <thompa> h3sp4wn: it did it automatically, without asking, so i can boot xp, very nice
[07:32] <thor> I am about to install an upgrade but before I go and download 165 meg's worth of packeges is there no way i can keep them say for the next sytem I install
[07:32] <sorush20> hi guys what is a very good back up tool for kde?
[07:32] <thompa> just never saw that happen before, there was nothing extra to do if you have 2 hard drives
[07:33] <thompa> konserve for backup
[07:34] <thompa> sorush20: konserve sits in system tray, simple to use
[07:34] <thor> so can anyone help
[07:34] <thompa> sorush20: i use a usb device and just pull over /home/user directory every now and then, ipod works best for me
[07:34] <ramitin> Can i use xorg-driver-fglrx from Breezy apt source to my Dapper installation?
[07:36] <thompa> h3sp4wn: i thought i would have to boot off of the slave linux drive first, am i making sense?
[07:36] <thor> I am about to install an upgrade but before I go and download 165 meg's worth of packeges is there no way i can keep them say for the next sytem I install
[07:36] <VieLguS-KuTaS> ramitin: whats wrong with the last driver?
[07:36] <thompa> su ubuntu is smart enough to install to the mbr of the correct drive
[07:36] <ramitin> VieLguS-KuTaS, it wont display anything
[07:36] <ramitin> and it makes my system crash
[07:36] <VieLguS-KuTaS> ramitin: how did u install it?
[07:37] <ramitin> like i should install it
[07:37] <ramitin> it makes my system completely crash
[07:37] <VieLguS-KuTaS> ramitin: which is?
[07:37] <ramitin> wich is apt-get install and then nano xorg.conf
[07:38] <ramitin> im now using the Driver "radeon"
[07:38] <thompa> question, i have the 2nd hard drive that is ntfs, can i partition it to use half for file storage, and will i be able to access it?
[07:38] <ramitin> wont let me get over 600 resolutions
[07:38] <ramitin> i want some older fglrx
[07:38] <Jack1> hi guys after upgrading to kubuntu 3.5.3 ..i use xsane (which worked fine with an epson scanner) i get every time when i do "scan" logged out..
[07:40] <ramitin> VieLguS-KuTaS, is there any other driver than fglrx for ATI cards
[07:41] <h3sp4wn> ramitin: r300 but it is very very unstable
[07:41] <ramitin> anything other?
[07:41] <VieLguS-KuTaS> ramitin: which guide did u use to install the driver?
[07:41] <ramitin> my own guide
[07:41] <ramitin> apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and then i put it to xorg.conf
[07:41] <ramitin> thats it
[07:42] <ramitin> VieLguS-KuTaS, you can show me guide
[07:42] <ramitin> so i can look if theres anything other
[07:42] <ramitin> its very hard to navigate in internet with this reslution
[07:42] <ramitin> 600x400
[07:43] <VieLguS-KuTaS> ramitin: um , no , its not gonna work like that
[07:43] <ramitin> oh
[07:43] <ramitin> can you show me a guide :O
[07:43] <ramitin> im sorry its just so impossible to try lookin myself :D
[07:43] <VieLguS-KuTaS> yeah , in a sec
[07:44] <thor> hi
[07:45] <skavenge> man cant get translucency to work for windows gives me 'composite extension not found' or something like that when x boots
[07:45] <VieLguS-KuTaS> ramitin: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:46] <BKaj> ramtin, right click on the panel below, then click on configure panel and make it "tiny", now you'll see the apply and next buttons on the program
[07:46] <VieLguS-KuTaS> ramitin: if you get errors , try uninstalling what u installed first
[07:47] <ramitin> yea ok
[07:47] <BKaj> then go to system settings and setup your screen resolution in admin mode
[07:48] <BKaj> dunno why the 600x480 is the default resolution on some cards ...bloody ridiculous cuz ya can't see the next and install buttons
[07:53] <Jack1> is there a different xsane version for kde 3.5.3? I MEAN HIGHER THAN 0.97?
[07:55] <NoDgr> Jack1: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/search/?q=xsane
[07:56] <NoDgr> lol,wrong tab,soz
[07:59] <makubex> HELLO
[07:59] <makubex> :D
[08:01] <tackat> does anyone have tipps how to get the NETGEAR WG511T running :) ?
[08:03] <Chubs> Hi evry1
[08:03] <boldii> hi
[08:04] <boldii> if I want to launch a certain shell command after X has already started up via kdm where should I put this command?
[08:06] <Ash-Fox> boldii, in konsole
[08:06] <Ash-Fox> boldii, or if you're not logged in, ctrl + alt + f1
[08:06] <Ash-Fox> and login there using the console (ctrl alt f7 to switch back)
[08:07] <boldii> Ash-Fox: thanks for that, but I wanted to do it automatically after every boot.
[08:08] <BKaj> what's the best utility for erasing dvds ?
[08:09] <Wolfpaw> hi there
[08:09] <Chubs> Ummm  I have a Gigabite wirelees PCMCIA card, how do I get it to work on Kabuntu ?
[08:10] <Ash-Fox> boldii, hmm, well, it would have to be init 3 has been reached obviously... I'm not really aware of a *easy* way todo it. But you could make a daemon script in /etc/init.d (I'm sure there are others ways, but I can't recall them right now) which starts up last after kdm has been started I suppose :/
[08:10] <Wolfpaw> hmm...seems that I am not the only one who discovers problems with setting up wlan... ^^
[08:11] <Ash-Fox> I just stuck my card in and it worked :P
[08:11] <Ash-Fox> !wireless
[08:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[08:11] <BKaj> !erase dvd
[08:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about erase dvd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:11] <Ash-Fox> I can help you if it's a countrycode related issue.
[08:12] <Wolfpaw> hmm....my problem is that my longshine with TNETW1130 chipset is recognized....but there is no connection
[08:12] <Chubs> But Kubuntu tells me no PCMCIA Devices found  :S
[08:12] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, tried using the wireless assistant?
[08:12] <Ash-Fox> Chubs, you probably don't have the proprietory kernel modules installed
[08:13] <Ash-Fox> or do they call it 'restricted'
[08:13] <Chubs> But I DL the newest Kabuntu
[08:13] <Ash-Fox> Chubs, so?
[08:13] <Ash-Fox> restricted, multiverse, proprietory things aren't included because of legal issues
[08:14] <Wolfpaw> an assistant....I didnt find an assistant...how to translate that into english ^^
[08:14] <Ash-Fox> That's why you need to manually add the soruces and install them
[08:14] <Chubs> Hey I'm new to this OS :(
[08:14] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[08:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:14] <Ash-Fox> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs contains documentation on setting specific wi-fi addapters.
[08:14] <Wolfpaw> I opened this system configuration.....and network-config
[08:15] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, goto K -> Internet -> Wireless assistant
[08:16] <Wolfpaw> ok...I didnt see it....better should buy me some glasses ^^
[08:16] <Wolfpaw> but also another question
[08:16] <Wolfpaw> do I have to use the ACX100 drivers?
[08:17] <Wolfpaw> found on http://acx100.erley.org/
[08:17] <ShuT-> can anyone check this logfile: http://www.pastebin.be/1360/ that's what i get when i try to install apollo
[08:17] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, if your system already detected the wi-fi card, no.
[08:25] <kosh> BKaj: erasing a rewritable dvd? tools format dvd+=rw
[08:26] <Pupeno> In which file should I configure global environment variables such as EDITOR ?
[08:27] <BKaj> tools?
[08:29] <BKaj> kosh: tools ?
[08:30] <Chubs> This may sound stupid but how do I become "root" in the Konsole ?
[08:31] <timthelion> sudo
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> Cubs: sudo -i
[08:31] <timthelion> sudo -s to stay
[08:31] <Chubs> thanks
[08:31] <timthelion> sudo if you just type one command
[08:31] <timthelion> so sudo apt-get install watever
[08:32] <timthelion> but you can use sudo -s if you don't want to type sudo over and over again
[08:32] <BKaj> ok, I'll ask again ...how to erase a dvd+rw ?
[08:32] <timthelion> no clue
[08:33] <invazor> with k3b
[08:33] <timthelion> have you looked in k3b
[08:33] <invazor> theres a option
[08:33] <invazor> erase dvd
[08:33] <BKaj> nopewhere invazor
[08:33] <timthelion> tools menu
[08:33] <BKaj> can only find formatdvd and it won't do it
[08:33] <timthelion> format dvd-rw maybe?
[08:34] <timthelion> what happens when you try?
[08:34] <Ash-Fox> !xgl
[08:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:35] <timthelion> !k3b
[08:35] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[08:35] <invazor> $ sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[08:35] <Ragol> hi, I'm trying to get vmware-player to work...
[08:35] <invazor>  cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom blank=all
[08:35] <Ragol> of course from the most current debs in dapper
[08:36] <BKaj> whok, had to force it to format
[08:36] <bob_> i need to change resolution from 640x480
[08:36] <bob_> how?
[08:36] <Ragol> but when I install it (apt-get install vmware-player) it says after it has failed to start 'virtual machine monitor and virtual ethernet' "Module vmnet is not loaded. please verify..."
[08:36] <Philip5> Ragol: and?
[08:37] <Philip5> Ragol: so lod the vmnet kernel module
[08:37] <Ragol> could it be that my kernel is 2.6.15-26 and the newest (is that a word?) headers for vmware are 2.6.15-25
[08:37] <Ragol> oh
[08:37] <Philip5> load
[08:37] <Ragol> I tried to do that
[08:38] <Ragol> $ sudo modprobe vmnet
[08:38] <Ragol> FATAL: Module vmnet not found.
[08:38] <BKaj> bob_: system settings/display/admin mode, find your monitor in the list
[08:38] <bob_> but how do i change the res
[08:38] <tackat> does anyone have tipps how to get the NETGEAR WG511T running :) ?
[08:38] <bob_> that slider has 640x480.  end of list
[08:39] <BKaj> you must have admin priveleges to change the res
[08:39] <Philip5> Ragol: have you installed the vmware-player-kernel-modules with apt?
[08:39] <Ragol> yup
[08:39] <Ragol> as I said, I have 2.6.15-25 versio of modules, but my kernel is -26
[08:40] <Philip5> Ragol: aha
[08:40] <Ragol> could that be the reason?
[08:40] <bob_> it won't let me enter admin mode
[08:40] <bob_> where is it getting 640x480 from?!  its not in my xorg.conf
[08:40] <Philip5> Ragol: yes... then you might have to install the vmware-player-kernel-source and build them
[08:41] <Ragol> Philip5: yeah, just found that package
[08:41] <thompa> !ntfs
[08:41] <ubotu> !ntfs
[08:41] <ubotu> !ntfs
[08:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:41] <dna_> Hello, how does samba file sharing work? I enabled it in system settings and shared a folder in my home dir but when I use my XP machine to browse my kubuntu machine it keeps asking for a username and password which I have never made any for samba and it is not my regular kubuntu login details either. Do I need to do something more?
[08:41] <__mikem> !ntfs
[08:41] <ubotu> !ntfs
[08:41] <ubotu> !ntfs
[08:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:41] <__mikem> Thats weird
[08:42] <bob_> so there is no way to change resolution using a GUI or CLI...
[08:42] <bob_> *buntu = worthless...
[08:42] <Ash-Fox> bob_, I can here. Guess it's just you.
[08:42] <thompa> can i mount my ntfs partition even if its a second hard drive?
[08:43] <BKaj> bob_: click on hardware, then admin mode , it'll ask for your pw and then to the far right slide over to the config button on monitor
[08:43] <bob_> i really didn't want to install gentoo.  but its the only distro that consistently works.
[08:43] <Ash-Fox> thompa, yep
[08:43] <bob_> BKaj: no it doesn't
[08:43] <__mikem> bob_ why do you think [u|ku|xu|edu|*] buntu is worthless
[08:43] <bob_> no password
[08:43] <thompa> Ash-Fox: is it possible to resize the ntfs (xp) so i can use some for storage, access from linux?
[08:44] <Ash-Fox> thompa, it is, I would reccommend you do that within windows using partition magic however.
[08:44] <thompa> Ash-Fox: or do i have to reboot from live
[08:44] <bob_> __mikem: well, it never works out of box.  i always have to mess around with x11, and apt, and such to get a working install
[08:44] <thompa> Ash-Fox: ok,
[08:44] <__mikem> I never had any problems getting it to work out of the box
[08:44] <bob_> and its overall unstable, especially if you use more then basic X11 features
[08:45] <__mikem> besides, gentoo never works out of the box
[08:45] <bob_> i just set kubuntu up for my parents because i figured it would work.
[08:45] <Ash-Fox> Well, theres your problem, kubuntu doesn't use x11, it uses xorg :P
[08:45] <__mikem> and, ubuntu is one of the most stable linux distrobutions I ever used
[08:45] <bob_> Ash-Fox: heh,  good call.  it like you don't realize xorg is an x11 implementation
[08:45] <thompa> Ash-Fox: my second hard drive is only accessible as /temp right now
[08:45] <kosh> x11 is a protocol
[08:45] <kosh> xorg is an implementation
[08:46] <Ash-Fox> ack, confusing x11 with XFree86
[08:46] <kosh> of corse kubuntu uses x11
[08:46] <kosh> BKaj: in k3b you don't see a tools menu?
[08:47] <Ragol> Philip5: do you know how I should install that package?
[08:47] <Ash-Fox> especially if you use more then basic X11 features <- alpha software like XGL and AIGLX?
[08:47] <bob_> so any tips on why xorg is ignoring xorg.conf and choosing 640x480 -- a resoltuion not listed in xorg.conf?
[08:47] <bob_> or why i can't enter admin mode to change res
[08:47] <Philip5> Ragol: sudo apt-get install package
[08:47] <BKaj> kosh, yeah , I had to use force format tho , there isno "erase" for dvd
[08:47] <Ragol> I mean what to do to get modules properly compiled and installed after installing that package?
[08:47] <Ragol> Philip5: I have done that, and got some sources under /usr/src
[08:48] <Ash-Fox> bob_, try setting it in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:48] <bob_> Ash-Fox: more like multiple X servers.  last ubuntu i tried wouldn't let users startx -- :1
[08:48] <Ragol> the doc-file of that package says that I should use either make-kpkg or just plain make&&make install
[08:49] <ubotu> p2
[08:49] <Philip5> Ragol: don't you have a script called vmware-config.pl installed? if so run it and it will set everything up and compile it for you
[08:49] <Ash-Fox> heh, I can do that just fine as long as I am not running in runlevel 5
[08:49] <dna_> how do I set the username and password for my samba shares?
[08:49] <thompa> Ash-Fox: thanks, i try mounting i get could not enter folder  /tmp/disks-conf-hda1, its mounted in /media though
[08:49] <Ash-Fox> Otherwise I have to launch it from within KDE.
[08:50] <Ash-Fox> thompa, hda1? you said it was on a second harddrive, wouldn't it be hdb1 ?
[08:50] <Ragol> Philip5: well.. I haven't that file and neither http://packages.ubuntu.com knows it
[08:50] <Ash-Fox> (or hdc1 if theres a cdrom there)
[08:51] <Philip5> Ragol: then do as the doc say
[08:51] <Ragol> Philip5: *sigh* make&&make install doesn't work, because there isn't any target for make instal
[08:51] <Philip5> Ragol: i use the workstation version and it's installed differently it seams
[08:51] <thompa> Ash-Fox: yes windows is hda and ubuntu is hdb
[08:52] <thompa> i meant its the other drive, its the master or first
[08:52] <Ragol> and for make-kpkg I think that I should put those files to some other dir or something
[08:52] <Ash-Fox> thompa, try doing a mkdir /mnt/windows && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[08:52] <kyle_> !repositories
[08:52] <Ash-Fox> It should be accessible in /mnt/windows then (just using a different folder to make sure nothing is blocking the mont)
[08:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:52] <kosh> BKaj: check the disc and see if it is blank, does it really matter if it is force format or erase?
[08:53] <thompa> Ash-Fox: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-hda1
[08:53] <Ragol> because if I try to run make-kpkg modules_image (as man page referred by the README-file of vmware-player-kernel-source says) it just says "We do not seem to be in a top level linux kernel source dir..."
[08:53] <Ash-Fox> thompa, can you access the folder in root?
[08:53] <Ash-Fox> err path.
[08:54] <thompa> Ash-Fox: i have hda1 in /media, but its locked
[08:55] <BKaj> Kosh, according to the force format warning , if it is done more than 10-20 times the disk can become unwriteable
[08:55] <Ash-Fox> thompa, can you do a 'sudo ls /tmp/disks-conf-hda1' ?
[08:56] <thompa> Ash-Fox: command not found
[08:56] <thompa> Ash-Fox: sorry that worked
[08:56] <Ash-Fox> you got a list of files there?
[08:56] <thompa> yes
[08:56] <Chubs> what is that comand again to run as root ?
[08:56] <Ash-Fox> okay, root can access the partition just fine then
[08:57] <thompa> thats good
[08:57] <kyle_> In adept when I click 'Request Install' and it says 'BREAK (Install)' how do i figure out what is causing the conflict and fix it?
[08:57] <Ash-Fox> thompa, what about just a 'ls /tmp/disks-conf-hda1'?
[08:57] <thompa> permisson denied
[08:57] <mocoloco> Chubs, to run as root type sudo
[08:57] <thompa> i ran the automount script, seems not to work on second drives
[08:57] <mocoloco> or you can do sudo su to stay as root
[08:58] <Chubs> thnks
[08:59] <thompa> Ash-Fox: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[08:59] <Ragol> well... maybe I just try to boot with the same kernel than the headers are
[08:59] <thompa> Ash-Fox: thats my fstab entry
[08:59] <mocoloco> I need help troubleshooting a sound issue, my sound stopped working after installing skype
[08:59] <Ash-Fox> thompa, can you type in in the console echo $UID and give me the number returned?
[09:00] <thompa> 1000
[09:00] <mocoloco> I'm on a thinkpad T2, and there's no error for arts, alsa, etc, just no sound at all
[09:00] <Ash-Fox> .. odd, kubuntu should give a low number like 501 normally.. oh well..
[09:01] <thompa> Ash-Fox: i started with ubuntu
[09:01] <Ash-Fox> thompa, edit the fstab entry to say: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,uid==1000 0 0
[09:01] <Ash-Fox> *correction* /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,uid=1000 0 0
[09:02] <Ash-Fox> thompa, actually give me a moment, I'm going to test with my own NTFS partition to make sure this is right.
[09:02] <thompa> thanks a bunch
[09:03] <thompa> Ash-Fox: that changes only dmask to uid
[09:04] <Ash-Fox> thompa, this works on my system: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[09:04] <thompa> do i need to rebbot
[09:05] <Ash-Fox> after you've replaced the line do a 'sudo umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda1', 'sudo umount /media/hda1', 'sudo mount -a'
[09:06] <thompa> Ash-Fox: ok, im going to try create link to device, is the -a for all? thnaks
[09:07] <Ash-Fox> 'mount -a' mounts all partitinos in fstab
[09:07] <Ash-Fox> if they haven't been mounted already that is.
[09:07] <arso> hey guys
[09:07] <thompa> Ash-Fox: i need to remember this stuff, thanks a million
[09:07] <arso> where can i manage the things that open at start up
[09:07] <thompa> works
[09:07] <arso> auto open*
[09:07] <Ash-Fox> thompa, it's easy to look up, open konqueror and type in the addressbar: man:mount :)
[09:08] <thompa> Ash-Fox: can i resize the ntfs in ubuntu, i want to create storage space for cds
[09:08] <Ash-Fox> thompa, I really urge you todo it in windows, NTFS support can get easilly messed up when Linux fiddles with it.
[09:08] <thompa> Ash-Fox: do you recommend something safer,
[09:08] <thompa> ok
[09:09] <thompa> ive had many problems with ntfs or was it fat, lost data and stuff
[09:09] <lackdiant> hi, where can I download amule 2.1.3 as a deb package for kubuntu?
[09:09] <Ash-Fox> I try not to let my windows and linux systems touch :)
[09:10] <thompa> Ash-Fox: thats why i have now seperate hard drives, maybe i should keep it that way and not partition
[09:10] <thompa> Ash-Fox: or if i partition a junk off while in windows that should be ok?
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> I tend to keep my linux and windows systems on seperate computers, mainly because windows always does something annoying.
[09:11] <thompa> Ash-Fox: im having that too
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> thompa, if you remove a hunk of the partition using windows, you can safely add another partition under kubuntu
[09:12] <thompa> Ash-Fox:  the windows hard drive is too big 150G, i only need 10G for some stupid game
[09:12] <Ash-Fox> thompa, oh, which game? :)
[09:13] <thompa> Ash-Fox: flight sim, railroad tycoon, some games for my daughter
[09:13] <desarrollo02> hello everybody
[09:14] <thompa> Ash-Fox: is there a free program to partition windows in windows
[09:14] <thompa> maybe i should just leave it, add externela hard drive
[09:14] <Ash-Fox> thompa, I'd reccommend it if I knew one :)
[09:14] <Ash-Fox> You can get a trial of partition magic though.
[09:15] <thompa> Ash-Fox: thanks anyway, ive used acronis before, i got it here somewhere
[09:15] <Ash-Fox> Or used to.
[09:15] <thompa> ;)
[09:15] <jaffa_> hey guyz does anyone no hw to update your pakages from another computer runing the same or over the loca network ??
[09:15] <jaffa_> sorry os
[09:16] <Ash-Fox> jaffa_, you will need to setup a local mirror on your network.
[09:17] <h3sp4wn> jaffa_: you can just copy /var/cache/apt/archives across then if you update it will save you downloading them all again - or use apt-proxy
[09:17] <Ash-Fox> But no, there isn't a easy way to install updates your other computer just got and isntalled from it.
[09:17] <kyle_> does anyone know anything about dvdauthor?
[09:17] <Ash-Fox> Hm, I stand corrected.
[09:19] <jaffa_> Ahh thanx ill give it a try
[09:27] <ocjeunesse> salut
[09:28] <ocjeunesse> un francais pour m' aider
[09:34] <ubuntu> anyone there ?
[09:34] <ubuntu> Is there anyone ?
[09:35] <Kwukki> yep
[09:35] <mneisen> hello, i can't seem to get quicktime and realplayer to work ...
[09:35] <ubuntu> Trying
[09:35] <ubuntu> How can I change my nickname (and I know it's not /quit)
[09:35] <h3sp4wn>  /nick
[09:35] <tristanmike>  /nick <newnick>
[09:36] <Enhor> thx guys
[09:36] <DarkAudit> is Totem the firefox plugin that shows (no picture) when loading a quicktime movie?
[09:38] <I_Died_Once> !repo
[09:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:38] <DarkAudit> !totem
[09:39] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:39] <I_Died_Once> !pornview
[09:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about pornview - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:41] <timthelion> I_Dead_Once: just and an ing on the end of that...
[09:43] <KaiHanari> whats a good command line package manager that can show things in catagory vie
[09:44] <KaiHanari> w
[09:46] <Pupeno> KaiHanari: I really really like aptitude.
[09:46] <KaiHanari> ooh yea, aptitude
[09:47] <osoh> hi all
[09:52] <gnuton> salve
[09:53] <jose> not sudo passwd root?
[09:53] <jose> not know pasword my root
[09:54] <mneisen> !pornviewing
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about pornviewing - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:54] <timthelion> if you type a password to log it use it
[09:54] <mneisen> !codecs
[09:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:55] <squid0> hi
[09:55] <jaysonw> hello
[09:55] <jaysonw> gah
[09:56] <KaiHanari> is there an application i can use to visually show where my space is being used? like spacemonger for windows?
[09:56] <aseigo> KaiHanari: firelight
[09:56] <aseigo> er, filelight
[09:56] <squid0> just installed kubuntu dapper on my desktop p4, a completely vanilla and generic install. then installed a few apps such as amarok, firefox, gaim, etc. but now when i restart, X is all messed up. i just see squished up lines, with no meaningful output
[09:56] <abattoir> KaiHanari: The filesize view mode in konqueror?
[09:57] <aseigo> KaiHanari: you can also go into konqueror and select the File Size View .. or, if you have filelight installed the Radial map view
[09:57] <squid0> i try ctrl+alt+backspace, but it's the same...
[09:57] <squid0> it all worked fine before... under the livecd, and once i'd installed the system.
[09:57] <squid0> the one thing i did do was to change the screen resolution, to one of the sizes on the slider under System Settings
[09:58] <squid0> can someone please guide/direct/advise me?
[09:58] <KaiHanari> thanks aseigo and abattoir . exactly the tools i wanted
[09:59] <SidToner> i'm having  problem getting adept to run... everytime i try to run it i get an error saying that another process is using the packaging sytem database... any idea what process could be using it?
[09:59] <arso> help
[09:59] <arso> in azureus
[09:59] <arso> i amgetting "firewalled" for any torrent i download
[09:59] <abattoir> squid0: would you like to try reconfiguring your X server?
[10:00] <aseigo> SidToner: another instance of adept? or a running apt-get?
[10:00] <squid0> abattoir: maybe that would be a good idea
[10:00] <Philip5> SidToner: either you have an other version of adept that haven't stoped right
[10:00] <abattoir> SidToner: maybe 'apt-get'?
[10:00] <squid0> abattoir: how do i do that?
[10:00] <Philip5> SidToner: or using some other app that use the package database
[10:00] <SidToner> i did a ps -aux and i didn't find anything like adept or apt get running
[10:00] <abattoir> squid0: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' i think... one sec
[10:01] <arso> HELP PLEASE :D
[10:01] <Philip5> arso: are you behind a router or gateway?
[10:02] <abattoir> squid0: yes, you can try that?
[10:02] <SidToner> i logged out and logged back in with the same result
[10:02] <squid0> abattoir: great, i will , thanks
[10:02] <arso> Philip5:  hey buddy
[10:02] <arso> Philip5:  yes iam
[10:02] <Philip5> arso: then that's your problem
[10:02] <SidToner> ding ding ding
[10:02] <Philip5> arso: do you have control over it?
[10:02] <SidToner> the only programs i have running is xchat... and kwallet
[10:02] <arso> Philip5:  yes
[10:02] <abattoir> arso: you could have a NAT problem...
[10:02] <arso> Philip5:  i am at its firewalla settings now
[10:02] <arso> abattoir:  how can we resolve that, n wtf is nat :P
[10:03] <SidToner> wow
[10:03] <gnuton> Hi! Anyone know a good free hosting for my ubuntu repository?
[10:03] <SidToner> gonna try a restart
[10:03] <arso> Philip5:  thing is everything is disabled, except virtual DMZ port
[10:03] <Philip5> arso: you might need port forwarding of your torrent port from the router to your azureus box
[10:04] <weedar> I need to boot into my system as root so I can change my hostname (it's causing issues when running sudo) is this possible at all?
[10:04] <abattoir> arso: you could search the Azureus website(its one of the most asked questions), Azureus also has an inbuilt tool for that.
[10:04] <arso> Philip5:  i think i did that already
[10:04] <squid0> abattoir: thanks! :D that worked . fantastic
[10:04] <arso> abattoir:  ok,i will check it out
[10:04] <abattoir> arso: sorry, i cant give a link, my konqueror is screwed :)
[10:04] <arso> its ok :)
[10:05] <arso> thnx anyway
[10:05] <abattoir> squid0: cool :)
[10:05] <hari> gnuton, will any free web hosting service suffice?
[10:05] <Admiral_proFTW> abattoir, whats wrong with it?
[10:05] <abattoir> Admiral_proFTW: tried upgrading to edgy... :P
[10:05] <gnuton> hari: i need at least 100Mb
[10:05] <Admiral_proFTW> ah
[10:05] <arso> umm my router is set up with NAPT not NAT, i didnt set NAT, should i?
[10:05] <Admiral_proFTW> you can roll back a version
[10:06] <arso> umm in addres translation
[10:06] <abattoir> Admiral_proFTW: yes, but i'm trying to get edgy to work now :)
[10:06] <arso> there are 3 options
[10:06] <arso> no address translation
[10:06] <hari> this one gives 200mb
[10:06] <arso> NAT
[10:06] <arso> NAPT
[10:06] <Admiral_proFTW> abattoir, aight fo sho
[10:06] <hari> http://awardspace.com/
[10:07] <hari> 5GB/month
[10:07] <hari> trans rate
[10:07] <hari> check it out :)
[10:07] <SidToner> ok... i did a restart and am still getting the database locked error for adept
[10:07] <abattoir> Admiral_proFTW: >>klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.<< lol :)
[10:08] <Admiral_proFTW> I had that happen to me before
[10:08] <arso> HOW DO I FIND MY IP IN LINUX PLEASE
[10:08] <SidToner> what proccess could be accessing it in the background?
[10:08] <abattoir> SidToner: does apt-get also complain?
[10:08] <TheHighChild> arso ifconfig |grep eth0
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> arso: ifconfig | grep 'inet addr' | cut -d: -f2 | awk '{print $1}' | grep -v ^127
[10:09] <arso> thank u
[10:09] <arso> zomg
[10:09] <arso> which one?
[10:09] <SidToner> apt-get doesn't
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> arso: that was trappist's line originally I just remembered it
[10:10] <abattoir> SidToner: then it might be a problem w/ Adept... you are running it as root right?
[10:10] <abattoir> SidToner: try running it from the commandline, 'sudo adept'
[10:10] <arso> h3sp4wn:  sorry "trappist"s?
[10:10] <SidToner> yeah... the dialog box pops up
[10:10] <SidToner> i put in the password
[10:12] <TheHighChild> arso: he's just explaining where he learned that command, you can copy it from here and paste it into the konsole with shift+insert.
[10:12] <trappist> <-- trappist
[10:12] <squid0> abattoir: uh oh. i get the kdm screen fine, but when i log on, it crashes and takes me right back to the kdm screen again :(
[10:12] <SidToner> sudo adept worked
[10:12] <abattoir> squid0: what did you do exactly?
[10:12] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, there is something wrong with your X server
[10:13] <squid0> abattoir: i stepped through the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:14] <abattoir> squid0: and then, you said it worked... what happened after that?
[10:14] <arso> hi
[10:14] <squid0> abattoir: well, i thought it worked. i saw it get to kdm fine, so i assumed it was all hunky-dory
[10:14] <Admiral_proFTW> log in as fail safe. do a "sudo startx"
[10:14] <arso> DHT firewalled- wats that please? how do i resolve it
[10:14] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok...
[10:14] <Admiral_proFTW> and tell us the error that you get back
[10:14] <Admiral_proFTW> wait
[10:15] <Admiral_proFTW> do you have bitchX installed? you can talk to us on IRC that way if you dont
[10:15] <abattoir> Admiral_proFTW: i think he is already doing that...
[10:15] <Admiral_proFTW> ah
[10:16] <squid0> no, i'm using another computer to chat to you....
[10:16] <abattoir> Admiral_proFTW: ok, my mistake :)
[10:16] <squid0> no worries :)
[10:17] <squid0> i logged in graphically to failsafe, and i see konsole open on the top-left-hand corner of the screen, with no title bar, but with menus etc. when i type sudo startx, i get an error saying that the server is already running
[10:18] <squid0> i mean, i am typing that from inside x already.....
[10:18] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, well try to do a sudo startx and tell us what the error is
[10:19] <arso> Philip5:  u there?
[10:19] <squid0> should i ok...
[10:19] <squid0> whoops
[10:19] <squid0> *ok....
[10:19] <Philip5> arso: kinda... eating
[10:19] <arso> Philip5:  k,just tell me when ur done please, i got one more question
[10:20] <gatekeeper> arso: evening arso what are you up to tonight?
[10:20] <squid0> i get a whole lot of lines, counting up from 5 to 24, like so: 7: /usr/bin/X11/X [0x8147728]  ... most of the lines start with the first part (the path to X)
[10:20] <arso> Philip5:  no need , fixed it ;)
[10:20] <Philip5> arso: hehe, ok
[10:20] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, you'll get an error
[10:20] <arso> gatekeeper:  hey
[10:21] <Admiral_proFTW> I thik "FATAL ERROR: etc"
[10:21] <squid0> then i get this: Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting. xinit: connection to X server lost
[10:21] <gatekeeper> Philip5: he got you working again :-)
[10:21] <arso> gatekeeper:  nothin much  , configuring azureus and my router settings
[10:21] <Philip5> gatekeeper: btw, hi there... you seam to pop up when arso have trouble... :)
[10:21] <squid0> yup  . you got it , Admiral_proFTW
[10:21] <Philip5> gatekeeper: yupp
[10:21] <arso> downloading 14 torrents
[10:21] <arso> haha
[10:21] <squid0> so now what?
[10:21] <Admiral_proFTW> try runnin "sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server -xorg"
[10:21] <Admiral_proFTW> again
[10:21] <arso> i hate my countries isp :(:(
[10:21] <squid0> ok....
[10:22] <arso> best speed is 2mbs , need to pay a fortune for it
[10:22] <arso> i got 512
[10:22] <gatekeeper> Philip5: evening yep sure do, so you eating a take away?
[10:22] <Admiral_proFTW> this time, stay with the all the defaults that your computer suggests
[10:22] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: that's what i have been doing until now :( . but ok
[10:22] <Philip5> gatekeeper: na, i made some pasta with pesto and chicken
[10:22] <squid0> btw, it doesn't autodetect my video hardware...
[10:22] <arso> i am hungry :(:(
[10:23] <hari> hmmm
[10:23] <hari> :)
[10:23] <Admiral_proFTW> what is your video card?
[10:23] <gatekeeper> Philip5: oooh sounds nice
[10:23] <squid0> this is my graphics card: via/s3g unichrome pro igp
[10:24] <Admiral_proFTW> what driver are you using?
[10:24] <squid0> well, the default is vesa
[10:24] <Russel> hiho
[10:24] <arso> Philip5:  ur making me hungry :@
[10:24] <hari> gnuton, are you there?
[10:24] <Russel> why does suspend to ram work with gnome-power-manager, but not with kpowersave?
[10:24] <Philip5> gatekeeper: kinda... i seam to need the energy to help arso with all his problems... but i draw the line when he want me to fix him a girlfriend... i stay with linux help
[10:25] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, well if you've done that before...
[10:25] <gnuton> hari: yes
[10:25] <Admiral_proFTW> try running it in recovery mode
[10:25] <Admiral_proFTW> off Grub
[10:25] <squid0> ok...
[10:25] <gatekeeper> Philip5: rofl !
[10:25] <hari> did you check out that website?
[10:25] <arso> Philip5:  lol,
[10:26] <Philip5> arso: :)
[10:26] <gatekeeper> Philip5: women are too expensive to run anyway :-)
[10:26] <gatekeeper> Philip5: at least linux doesn't keep emtptying your wallet
[10:26] <gnuton> hari:yes
[10:26] <Philip5> gatekeeper: yes, most women want more than a 'apt-get upgrade' once in a while
[10:26] <abattoir> !classroom
[10:26] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[10:27] <gatekeeper> Philip5: :-)
[10:27] <abattoir> Some of you might be interested ^^^^^^
[10:27] <squid0> ok, i haven't yet rebooted, but i tried starting x after doing a 'generic' run through dpkg-reconfigure, and it x starts briefly, i see a cursor, but then the monitor flicks back to the terminal, and prints an error message similar to the old one, except now there's an extra line: xauth: error in locking authority file /home/squid/.Xauthority
[10:27] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I read that yesterday in fact.  Sounds very interesting indeed
[10:27] <arso> gatekeeper: Philip5 i wanna try some new app, anything nice u two recommend? for fun
[10:28] <hari> does it match you criterias :-)
[10:28] <abattoir> Hawkwind: just doing some 'marketing' ;). It does sound promising.
[10:28] <hari> *your
[10:28] <Philip5> arso: start with your own interests and find apps connected to that
[10:28] <squid0> arso: try amarok
[10:29] <SidToner> that's a good one
[10:29] <SidToner> any reccomendations for vidcast downloaders?
[10:29] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I'd like to sometime volunteer in the future for some of the classes as an instructor possibly.  Seems so far the ones I could do are taken this time
[10:29] <Admiral_proFTW> arso, Katapult
[10:29] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok, i'm booted in to recovery mode, and x has started fine. i have a desktop
[10:29] <h3sp4wn> arso: vimtutor (you will be glad you did)
[10:29] <squid0> now what?
[10:30] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, really?
[10:30] <arso> squid0:  amarok comes with it :)
[10:30] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: er... yes...
[10:30] <Admiral_proFTW> so you're  set?
[10:30] <arso> h3sp4wn:  thnx, will get now
[10:30] <SidToner> i think i did that... is that the tutorial with the zappa references in it all over the place?
[10:30] <arso> Admiral_proFTW:  thnx , gonna go get it
[10:30] <arso> Philip5:  i see
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> arso: It should already be installed but it is useful to be able to use vim
[10:30] <gatekeeper> arso: whatever floats your boat :-)
[10:30] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: well, i don't know.... all i know is that it works under recovery mode. will it work under normal mode now too?
[10:30] <abattoir> Hawkwind: cool. :) i think you can speak w/ nix*ternal to get involved.
[10:31] <Philip5> arso: what do you like in general?
[10:31] <squid0> arso: amarok 1.4 is cooler than 3.9.
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> arso: Even if you only fo the first 2 chapters
[10:31] <gatekeeper> squid0: what way?
[10:31] <arso> Philip5: oh, i'll get it then
[10:32] <Admiral_proFTW> well when I had a problem with X that I couldn't figure out, I ran recovery mode, then restarted and it worked
[10:32] <arso> h3sp4wn:  is it that command line text editor?
[10:32] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: oh really? ok, i'll try that
[10:32] <arso> squid0:  oh, sounds interesting
[10:32] <h3sp4wn> arso: vim is yes vimtutor teaches you how to use it
[10:32] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Ah ok.  I'll talk to him next time I see him around for sure.  See what else he might need for the project and if I can help in some way
[10:32] <squid0> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[10:32] <arso> i see, why would i need that? cant i just use kate :P
[10:32] <arso> squid0:  thnx
[10:32] <squid0> there are later versions out, but i thought i'd stick with what looked like the most stable
[10:32] <abattoir> Hawkwind: I'll tell him if i see him too. thank you. :)
[10:32] <squid0> arso: sure. one major plus is that it now supports m4a files in the collection....
[10:32] <Admiral_proFTW> arso, you might want to check out vi
[10:32] <Admiral_proFTW> or nano
[10:32] <arso> squid0:  i see, so wats the best new feature?
[10:33] <squid0> arso: you'll have to find that our for yourself :)
[10:33] <squid0> or just read the changelogs
[10:33] <arso> squid0:  ahh cool
[10:33] <arso> Admiral_proFTW:  ya, tried those
[10:33] <arso> squid0:  sure thing, checking the link now
[10:33] <squid0> k
[10:34] <abattoir> arso: visit kde-apps.org, i'm sure you'll find a lot of interesting stuff to check out. ;)
[10:34] <arso> so are there any other media players u recommend?
[10:34] <Admiral_proFTW> arso, banshee
[10:34] <arso> Admiral_proFTW:  player?
[10:34] <arso> abattoir:  ok, going now
[10:35] <squid0> ok, i'm root on the console, and i type shutdown now. it prints a lot of the usual messages that it's stopping all these services, and sending processes the TERM and KILL signals, but then it just stops, and doesn't power down. what's going on?
[10:35] <arso> abattoir:  wow, kde-apps looks impressive, checking stuff out, thnx
[10:36] <squid0> hmmm. i typed poweroff and it worked
[10:36] <Authority> after a hard drive glitch and the resulting fsck, apt-get throws many, many "serious warnings" about file lists for all my packages that are missing
[10:36] <abattoir> arso: also check out kde-look.org while you are at it...
[10:36] <gatekeeper> squid0: I have had that happen to me to
[10:36] <squid0> hmmm.
[10:36] <Admiral_proFTW> arso, yea meida player
[10:36] <gatekeeper> squid0: have to remember that command :-)
[10:37] <arso> abattoir:  okay,
[10:37] <elknof1> hi everybody
[10:37] <gatekeeper> many of you folks tried a breezy to dapper upgrade?
[10:37] <houngan> hi
[10:37] <Admiral_proFTW> gatekeeper, I did it
[10:37] <thompa> kde system guard showed nothing until i rebooted
[10:38] <gatekeeper> Admiral_proFTW: any issues?
[10:38] <thompa> myabe my cpu is going bad
[10:38] <Admiral_proFTW> a couple times acutally
[10:38] <elknof1> hey does anyone knows how tu burn an audio cd with  k3b??  when i try to burn one, it tells me that that ytpe of file is not supported...
[10:38] <Admiral_proFTW> one issue with a package
[10:38] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: help! still the same thing... i get kdm, log in, a bit of cursor, and then back to kdm
[10:38] <Admiral_proFTW> but I uninstalled it and reinstalled it
[10:38] <Admiral_proFTW> whats the full error read?
[10:38] <squid0> me?
[10:38] <arso> quick vote guys KDE vs GNOME based on personal experience . i am currently on kde and donno if i am missing anything by not using gnome
[10:38] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, yea
[10:38] <eneried> helo people
[10:38] <squid0> arso: i use a combo of both
[10:39] <squid0> but mostly kde
[10:39] <Admiral_proFTW> gatekeeper, I had one issue, but it was minor
[10:39] <visik7> gnome on SUSE enterprise Desktop is a big step ahead
[10:39] <Admiral_proFTW> the other systems I did was not a problem
[10:39] <hari> i like kde :-) not gnome :(
[10:39] <arso> ahh suse, i was gonna use that, but i had issues while installing it and decided on kubuntu
[10:40] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: how do you stop x from the terminal? i get an error that there's (rightly) already a version of X server running
[10:40] <visik7> I don't like rpm based distro at all
[10:40] <arso> hari:  any reason why :)?
[10:40] <Admiral_proFTW> uhh sudo killall -KILL <process> is the way I do it
[10:40] <Admiral_proFTW> do a pstree before hand
[10:40] <squid0> ok...
[10:41] <hari> according to my personal experiences its more configurable :)
[10:41] <Admiral_proFTW> visik7, I did FC4 for a bit. I don't like rpm either
[10:41] <Admiral_proFTW> debs are easier to handle
[10:41] <gatekeeper> Admiral_proFTW: I have tried it a couple of time, once with a bad maxtor hdd doing it manually, and certain apps like open office went missing, also tried it on my test box using update-manager only problem I had was that it decided to disable my ethernet card, no idea why got working with a bit of fidling in system settings just a bit off putting
[10:41] <arso> Admiral_proFTW:  is banshee only for gnome?
[10:42] <Admiral_proFTW> arso, I don't know
[10:42] <eneried> could you help me? i cannot find the volume icon on my kde...
[10:42] <arso> Admiral_proFTW:  k
[10:42] <Admiral_proFTW> most programs are desktop enviroment independent
[10:42] <Admiral_proFTW> gatekeeper, how are you updating
[10:42] <arso> ic
[10:42] <arso> coz in adept
[10:42] <arso> it says "for gnome"
[10:43] <Admiral_proFTW> really?
[10:43] <arso> yes
[10:43] <Admiral_proFTW> hm, thats odd
[10:43] <arso> "Banshee is an audio management and playback application for the GNOME Desktop"
[10:43] <teelittle> gatekeeper: /me sitting in front of his notebook - clean up and install dapper or upgrade from breezy?
[10:43] <Admiral_proFTW> thats dumb. amarok is the best anywayr
[10:43] <teelittle> gatekeeper: at the moment, backing up my home dir
[10:43] <hari> eneried, you mean icon for volume control?
[10:43] <Admiral_proFTW> teelittle, update from breezy
[10:44] <eneried> hey! how can i place a volume icon near the clock on my kde bar?
[10:44] <arso> Admiral_proFTW:  lol, i see , i like amarok too
[10:44] <arso> gonna update it now
[10:44] <eneried> yep hari, i don't know where is it... :(
[10:44] <Admiral_proFTW> eneried, its an applet
[10:44] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: i did killall Xorg (that pstree is cool! never seen it before), and then startx. this time i don't even get to the kdm screen; i just get the same error as the first time (lines of things like "19: /usr/bin/X11/X [0x80d0417] " and then Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting. xinit: connection to X server lost
[10:44] <Admiral_proFTW> add one to your panel
[10:44] <teelittle> Admiral_proFTW: no problems coming? There was something written some months ago...?
[10:44] <unix_infidel> eneried: use the kmix applet.
[10:44] <visik7> ppl developing rythmnbox say is better than amarok and vice versa is a comparative article about this 2 rivals ?
[10:44] <eneried> but there's no appleti tryied to add it but it's not listed
[10:45] <gatekeeper> Admiral_proFTW: manualy replaced the repos, then sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, with my testbox which worked better using update-manager
[10:45] <eneried> unix_infidel, where's this applet (kmix)?
[10:45] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, when was it working
[10:45] <Admiral_proFTW> and how did it stop working?
[10:45] <unix_infidel> eneried: its here.
[10:45] <unix_infidel> its called "Sound Mixer"
[10:45] <hari> go to K Menu->Multimedia->KMix
[10:45] <Admiral_proFTW> gatekeeper, did you change your source list?
[10:46] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: about an hour, 2, ago. when i first installed from the cd, and then once after it rebooted as part of the install process...
[10:46] <eneried> unix_infidel, i have no kmix applet option to add :(
[10:46] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: since then, no joy
[10:46] <arso> oh btw guys, i am still running the default kde "theme" is it easy to change that ? and are there many options/
[10:46] <hari> eneried, go to K Menu->Multimedia->KMix
[10:46] <Admiral_proFTW> arso, so easy to change
[10:46] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: i don't know how it stopped working.
[10:46] <eneried> i need to install kmix XD
[10:46] <gatekeeper> Admiral_proFTW: when I did it manually yes, using update-manager no, I let it do the hole thing
[10:47] <elknof1>  hey does anyone knows how tu burn an audio cd with  k3b??  when i try to burn one, it tells me that that ytpe of file is not supported...
[10:47] <hari> hmmm
[10:47] <arso> cool
[10:47] <Admiral_proFTW> well go to /usr/bin/X11/X
[10:47] <Admiral_proFTW> what do you see?
[10:47] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: i know i changed the screen resolution, which produced no results... ie. it said it had changed, but it didn't changemaybe that's significant?
[10:47] <squid0> ok
[10:47] <teelittle> gatekeeper: didn't get you: update-manager worked better? Or apt-get {clean, update, dist-upgrade} worked better?
[10:47] <hari> eneried, there is no KMix in K Menu->Multimedia-> ?
[10:47] <eneried> no i haven't
[10:48] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: i don't have an X dir. only X11
[10:48] <eneried> i'm installing it
[10:48] <Admiral_proFTW> whats in it?
[10:48] <hari> ok
[10:48] <squid0> tons of stuff
[10:48] <gatekeeper> teelittle: update-manager was much better, only issue was that it disabled my network card which I managed to fix
[10:48] <arso> hey do icon docks consume a lot of memory?
[10:48] <Admiral_proFTW> there an error log in there?
[10:48] <Admiral_proFTW> arso, no
[10:48] <Admiral_proFTW> if my docks, you mean buttons on the panel
[10:49] <teelittle> gatekeeper: thanks!
[10:49] <arso> i mean those ones meant to look like mac osX dock
[10:49] <arso> like "kooldock"
[10:49] <BCC> Yello :) My KDE session crashes on bootup. It's trying to restart something I left open when shutting down yesterday. Where can I clear the list of opened programs?
[10:49] <elknof1> can somebody helpme just a little bit with k3b??
[10:49] <BCC> Or is there a way to boot kde into safemode :)?
[10:49] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: not sure... what would it be called?
[10:50] <gatekeeper> teelittle: what did I do ?
[10:50] <Admiral_proFTW> BCC, you can cahnge that from your "restore session option
[10:50] <BCC> Admiral: Where's that?
[10:50] <teelittle> gatekeeper: ehem, tell me your experience with upgrading breezy to dapper?
[10:50] <Admiral_proFTW> which you get when you shut down, ther is a "save session option"
[10:50] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: i have /var/log/Xorg.0.log though
[10:50] <gatekeeper> teelittle: Ohhh :-)
[10:51] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, uh i think its called xorg.log
[10:51] <Admiral_proFTW> yea
[10:51] <BCC> Admiral :> Yeah I know, but I've got a broken saved session. Where can I delete that?
[10:51] <Admiral_proFTW> thats it
[10:51] <gatekeeper> elknof1: what is the file you are trying to burn?
[10:51] <Admiral_proFTW> BCC, what do you mean "broken"?
[10:51] <elknof1> gatekeeper, is an mp3 file, and im trying to burn it as an audio cd...
[10:51] <BCC> Admin :> Its trying to restore some program and crashing hard whilst doing it.
[10:52] <Admiral_proFTW> which program?
[10:52] <Admiral_proFTW> could it be running still?
[10:52] <elknof1> gatekeeper, i mean a normal audio cd with about 21 songs...
[10:52] <BCC> Admin :> I don't know.. I can do everything for the first five seconds.. then I see Amarok and Kmix starting up and then the entire Window enviroment freezes..
[10:52] <gatekeeper> elknof1: me thinks you won't get far doing that, burn it as a data cd
[10:53] <BCC> Admin :> So I hope destroying my session will cure it..
[10:53] <houngan> but he doesn't want to burn it in mp3 format
[10:53] <gatekeeper> elknof1: if you want it to be like a normal audio cd you will have to do some converting
[10:53] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, paste your Xorg.0.log
[10:53] <Admiral_proFTW> !paste
[10:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:53] <elknof1> gatekeeper, if i burn it as a data cd, it will burn it as mp3, i mean as they are, and i want them to be playable in my car...
[10:54] <elknof1> gatekeeper, a ok ok..
[10:54] <elknof1> gatekeeper, how can i do that??
[10:54] <Admiral_proFTW> elknof1, if your car can handle mp3 cd's it'll be fine
[10:54] <teelittle> Can anyone explain/solve the issue of a notebook TouchPad loosing sync? [driver is psmouse.c]  - from time to time, the pointer hops around the screen in big jumps instead of following the finger movements?
[10:54] <eneried> thanks a lot Admiral_proFTW, hari and unix_infidel!!! Ican hear my music now!!
[10:54] <hari> good to hear that :)
[10:54] <elknof1> Admiral_proFTW, no, it doesn't handle mp3's
[10:54] <Admiral_proFTW> eneried, i don't remember helping you, but you're welcome
[10:54] <elknof1> lol
[10:56] <Admiral_proFTW> elknof1, then you need to burn it as an audio CD
[10:56] <arso> gatekeeper:  can themes be installed thru adept?
[10:56] <gatekeeper> elknof1: I think you will need to convert the mp3 into a suitable format, unfortunately I am no expert on that
[10:56] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: how do you copy a file's content into a webpage in the console?
[10:56] <gatekeeper> arso: through system settings I think
[10:56] <eneried> Admiral_proFTW, you said it's an applet, someone else said is kmix, i installed kmix and remembered you said it, then i look for the applet,and
[10:56] <eneried> it's working now :p
[10:56] <Admiral_proFTW> hmm, not sure, what are you doing
[10:56] <Admiral_proFTW> oh yea, i remember that
[10:56] <elknof1> Admiral_proFTW, yup, i've already tryed that, but it gave me back an error, that k3b does not supprt that type of file...
[10:56] <eneried> bye guys, take care :)
[10:56] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, jsut give me the last line
[10:56] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok... one sec
[10:56] <arso> gatekeeper:  "widget"?
[10:56] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting
[10:57] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: i also see a few messages towards the end about trying to open device /dev/wacom, but failing...
[10:57] <BCC> Does anyone know where KDE stores it's session data?
[10:58] <skavenge> elknof1: under wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats under mp3 shows how to get mp3 support in k3b, should burn to audio after that
[10:59] <teelittle> hmmm... no ideas about "psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 5 bytes away"?
[10:59] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: and i also see a line like this: (II) VESA(0): VBESetVBEMode failed...Tried again without customized values.
[10:59] <Admiral_proFTW> try using a different driver
[10:59] <Admiral_proFTW> I use nv but tahts because I have an nvidia card
[10:59] <slow-motion> n8
[10:59] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok
[11:00] <gatekeeper> elknof1: I think you need some sort of MP3 -> CD audio converter
[11:00] <houngan> he has left :(
[11:00] <houngan> i figured it out now and he is gone
[11:00] <gatekeeper> houngan: damn
[11:00] <Admiral_proFTW> mpg312 is a good package
[11:01] <gatekeeper> houngan: just found this too: http://www.leap-cf.org/presentations/burn-cds-with-linux/
[11:01] <Admiral_proFTW> you can do a mpg312 -decode /file something or another
[11:01] <houngan> yeah i opened k3b and there is a convert option
[11:01] <gatekeeper> ohhh well you can't win them all
[11:02] <houngan> when i download a *.deb package and install it - can i delete the deb file after that?
[11:02] <gatekeeper> houngan: he obviously didn't look very far
[11:02] <gatekeeper> arso: widget???
[11:02] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok, now i've tried a few different drivers, but with each one i get the message no devices found, and the fatal error saying no screens found
[11:02] <arso> gatekeeper:  donno :P,
[11:03] <Admiral_proFTW> same thing with all of them except for the one you used to use?
[11:03] <gatekeeper> houngan: I think you should be able to
[11:03] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: haven't tried that one yet... one sec...
[11:04] <houngan> y but i tried to convert and install an rpm package today and the program wont start
[11:05] <gatekeeper> houngan: always worked for me, I did with realplayer and it shows up in synaptic
[11:05] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: with the one i used to use, i get that caught signal 11 message... though it initializes for a brief second before crashing....
[11:06] <arso> oh great i messed around my display settings and now my tabs look weird :(
[11:06] <Admiral_proFTW> so apparently it worked all right
[11:06] <BCC> Does anyone know where KDE stores it's session data?
[11:06] <houngan> gatekeeper: i think ill just try again :P
[11:06] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: yes.... but not properly...
[11:07] <Admiral_proFTW> dang
[11:07] <squid0> could it be that it's trying to use an invalid resolution size, which makes it crash?
[11:07] <gatekeeper> houngan: search for: apt-cache search <package name> uninstall apt-get remove  --purge <package name>
[11:07] <Admiral_proFTW> well I thought about that
[11:08] <Admiral_proFTW> when you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -xserver -xorg
[11:08] <Admiral_proFTW> err x-server
[11:08] <rysiek|pl> hi there, guys
[11:08] <Admiral_proFTW> what are the resolutions
[11:08] <gatekeeper> evening
[11:08] <squid0> one sec...
[11:08] <Ayabara> I have just installed kubuntu-desktop, but it's not healthy.. ktorrent crashes when I try to start it, and the kde desktop crashed when I logged on the first time. I have tried deleting my .kde folder, but it didn't help. any ideas?
[11:09] <Admiral_proFTW> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-core
[11:09] <Admiral_proFTW> then install it
[11:09] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, that might work
[11:09] <gatekeeper> Ayabara: have you checked that your HDD is ok, using say badblocks?
[11:10] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok.... thanks...
[11:10] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: no, but when you mention it, I have had some bad crashes lately...
[11:10] <Admiral_proFTW> Ayabara, you might want to do an fsck
[11:10] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, do it from command line
[11:10] <gatekeeper> Ayabara: how long ago did you install?
[11:10] <houngan> gatekeeper: i use "alien --to-deb --keep-version <rpm>" to convert - that is correct isn't it?
[11:10] <rysiek|pl> I remember there is a way of doingthis, but I can't recall how; manpages also didn't help here. Suppose I have two repo's in sources.list (A and B), which, among other packages, hold two different versions of package some.deb. The B repo is more up-to-date but apt clearly uses the A repo. how to tell apt to use repo B for package some.deb, and only for this package?
[11:10] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: well, yes.. :)
[11:11] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: installed ubuntu a couple of weeks ago, kubuntu-desktop today
[11:12] <Ayabara> Admiral_proFTW: is that something I need to do every once in a while?
[11:12] <Admiral_proFTW> not especially. its a file system check
[11:12] <Admiral_proFTW> File System ChecK
[11:13] <Ayabara> will that also check what badblocks check?
[11:13] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok, now i removed it that way, and then did sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[11:13] <squid0> am i right?
[11:13] <rysiek|pl> anybody?..
[11:13] <gatekeeper> houngan: not sure, I just use alien -i packagename.rpm when I have used alien
[11:13] <squid0> afk = ?
[11:13] <rysiek|pl> Away From Keyboard
[11:13] <Admiral_proFTW> away from keys
[11:13] <squid0> ah.  thanks
[11:13] <hari> :)
[11:14] <Ayabara> should I not tun fsck on mounted file systems?
[11:14] <gatekeeper> Ayabara: there is an option on the CD to check that it is ok, did you use that option?
[11:14] <Ayabara> tun=run
[11:14] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: no
[11:14] <Admiral_proFTW> back
[11:14] <squid0> that was quick :)
[11:14] <Admiral_proFTW> no
[11:14] <Admiral_proFTW> phone call
[11:14] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, yes install Xor
[11:15] <Admiral_proFTW> Xorg
[11:15] <squid0> ok
[11:15] <squid0> right.
[11:15] <squid0> then i say, startx
[11:15] <dinwath> hi there
[11:15] <dinwath> someone knows how to force kde (3.5.2) to mount a USB flash disk to a fixed location??
[11:15] <squid0> or should i *now* configure x again....
[11:15] <Admiral_proFTW> configure it. try to use like two resolution
[11:16] <Admiral_proFTW> 800*600 1024*764 whateve it is
[11:16] <Admiral_proFTW> myabe 640*100 or whatever that one is
[11:16] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok... i get an error message when i try: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[11:16] <Admiral_proFTW> try doing sudo apt-get install xserver*
[11:16] <squid0> ok
[11:16] <Admiral_proFTW> that might fix it
[11:17] <Authority> how can I reinstall my Kubuntu system from scratch but retain all my currently installed packages?
[11:17] <houngan> gatekeeper: thanks, i guess i will have to get another program :(
[11:17] <teelittle> dinwath: sorry, no idea - but I'm interested in the answer, too!
[11:17] <squid0> that's gonna install a whole lot of stuff i don't need.... is there no meta-package?
[11:18] <da_flo> Hi everyone. I'm on breezy and I installed fglrx to have hardware accel with my ATI gfx card. All went well, except that I am stuck with the screen resolution the driver gives me.
[11:18] <da_flo> I tried adding Option "NoDDC" to my xorg.conf, as I saw on various webpages, but it doesn't work. I found the following line in /var/log/Xorg.0.log : "(WW) fglrx(0): Option "NoDDC" is not used". Any idea about this ?
[11:18] <Ayabara> Admiral_proFTW, gatekeeper: could you help me get started with badblocks or fsck? not sure how to attack this.
[11:18] <teelittle> Authority: I think you can export the list of installed packages from synaptic... once did it to clone my package list from my desktop to my notebook
[11:19] <gatekeeper> houngan: using rpm's doesn't always work what are you trying to install?
[11:19] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, hold on a sec
[11:19] <coachJ> should totem for firefox be installed?
[11:19] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: thanks
[11:19] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: xserver-xorg?
[11:19] <Admiral_proFTW> tyr that
[11:20] <Admiral_proFTW> with an asterix
[11:20] <Admiral_proFTW> maybe you'll have less options
[11:20] <hari> ok bye everyone i am going, need to sleep, its almost 3am here :-)
[11:20] <houngan> gatekeeper: i tried to install a filesharing client, but i guess there are better clients for debian anyway
[11:20] <Authority> teelittle: i can't use synaptic, i'm stuck on CLI.  any other ideas?
[11:20] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, its a fresh install?
[11:20] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: yes
[11:20] <abattoir> houngan: have you tried apollon ?
[11:20] <teelittle> Authority: does aptitude have this feature?
[11:20] <coachJ> can someone tell me if I should unstall totem for firefox?
[11:21] <Admiral_proFTW> blow it, and try to install it again
[11:21] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: it's a dual boot machine, with xp
[11:21] <Admiral_proFTW> we might have better luck
[11:21] <houngan> gatekeeper: no, is that a good client?
[11:21] <Admiral_proFTW> dang
[11:21] <Admiral_proFTW> well.
[11:21] <gatekeeper> Ayabara: something like badblocks -v /dev/hda1 or whatever you hdd partition is
[11:21] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: hmmm... i'll try that...
[11:21] <Admiral_proFTW> you can install linux over it
[11:21] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: ok. when ktorrent crashes its / and /home I should check I guess
[11:21] <Admiral_proFTW> yea just delete the linux partition and install over it
[11:21] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: or what about re-installing kubuntu-desktop?
[11:21] <dinwath> someone knows how to force kde (3.5.2) to mount a USB flash disk to a fixed location??  PLZ
[11:21] <Authority> teelittle: I don't know, but thanks for giving me a place to look
[11:22] <Admiral_proFTW> and Grub will write it
[11:22] <gatekeeper> houngan: I would look in the package manager for a suitable app
[11:22] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, what about it
[11:22] <unix_infidel> dinwath: man fstab
[11:22] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: i want to try that. what do you say?
[11:22] <squid0> think it might help?
[11:22] <squid0> ah no, on second thoughts i doubt it
[11:22] <Admiral_proFTW> sudo dpk-configure kubuntu-desktop
[11:22] <Admiral_proFTW> try it
[11:22] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok
[11:22] <houngan> gatekeeper: ok i am installing apollon
[11:22] <gatekeeper> Ayabara: they on seperate partitions?
[11:23] <dinwath> unix_infidel: and what? the device changes if i plug one usb disk before another...
[11:23] <coachJ> gatekeeper-should I have totem for firefox installed?
[11:23] <teelittle> Authority: otherwise, the "dpkg" package manager should be able to do that - but requires reading some manpages...
[11:23] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: yes. those two, and a fat32 /storage mount point shared by win and lin
[11:24] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: kubuntu-desktop is not installed
[11:24] <gatekeeper> Ayabara: hmmm interesting, yes both need checking
[11:24] <gatekeeper> houngan: cool :-)
[11:25] <gatekeeper> coachJ: possible, what are you trying to play?
[11:25] <Admiral_proFTW> sudo apt-get install /f xserver-xorg-core
[11:25] <coachJ> nothing in paticular just came across it
[11:26] <VieLguS-KuTaS> whats the name of that app that launches when the print screen is pressed?
[11:26] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: ok. I'll start running badblocks on all three (while praying that all is ok...)
[11:26] <Admiral_proFTW> VieLguS-KuTaS, Ksnapshoot
[11:26] <Admiral_proFTW> Shot*
[11:26] <gatekeeper> coachJ: if it ain't broke, don't fix it :-)
[11:26] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, run sudo apt-get install /f xserver-xorg-core
[11:26] <VieLguS-KuTaS> Admiral_proFTW: ty , i wanna install that
[11:26] <coachJ> guess your right
[11:27] <teelittle> when I use "apt-get install ...", I can use tab completion even with applications that are not installed - how does apt-get gues the names???
[11:27] <I_Died_Once> they need to port apt-get to windows
[11:27] <Admiral_proFTW> teelittle, because Linux is awesome
[11:27] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: k
[11:27] <gatekeeper> teelittle: from it's cache
[11:28] <coachJ> cache of the repos
[11:28] <coachJ> ?
[11:28] <teelittle> gatekeeper: and the cache hold a list of all packages found in the repos last time??
[11:28] <teelittle> Admiral_proFTW: really awesome!
[11:29] <coachJ> it's amazing what you can learn by just reading these exchanges
[11:29] <gatekeeper> teelittle: yep apt-cache search <whatever>
[11:29] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: E: Couldn't find package
[11:30] <Admiral_proFTW> what?
[11:30] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, run sudo apt-get install /f xserver-xorg
[11:30] <gatekeeper> teelittle: to list packages dpkg -l
[11:30] <crazy_penguin> i wish a good night to all! sleep well! :)
[11:30] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok
[11:30] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: again, i get the error saying couldn't find package
[11:31] <gatekeeper> crazy_penguin: night won't be far behind you
[11:32] <teelittle> gatekeeper: ... which lists only installed packages, right? While the cache holds everything that _could_ be installed from the existing repos?
[11:32] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: no bad blocks on / or /home
[11:32] <Admiral_proFTW> i dont know what the package is called. I can't look it up since I'm not on Linux
[11:32] <coachJ> I have another question about Firefox, Can the Add-ons on the Firefox site be added from there to Firefox running on Kubuntu
[11:33] <Admiral_proFTW> squid0, try doing a full reinstall
[11:33] <BCC> This maybe a stupid question, but I'll ask it anyway: Is there a way to increase the icon size of the icons on my desktop?
[11:33] <gatekeeper> teelittle: I suspect it will list everything, not quite sure, try it :-)
[11:33] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok. i'll probably end up doing that....
[11:33] <Admiral_proFTW> and let me know what happens. I have to go away for a bit
[11:33] <squid0> it's weird tho... why is this happening, i wonder?
[11:33] <houngan> coachJ: yes i installed adblock plus - it works
[11:33] <gatekeeper> Ayabara: may be a dodgy iso?
[11:33] <Admiral_proFTW> email me at freddymartinez9 at gmail dot com
[11:33] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: ok. thanks a lot for your help and patience!
[11:33] <squid0> Admiral_proFTW: thanks
[11:33] <Admiral_proFTW> no problem
[11:33] <Admiral_proFTW> later
[11:33] <squid0> cheers
[11:34] <coachJ> houngan: just follow instructions on the site?
[11:34] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: sounds scary.. I haven't had problems in the 2 weeks I've been running ubuntu. my xp install crashed _hard_ twice yesterday, so maybe I'm looking at a hw problem after all.
[11:35] <teelittle> gatekeeper: tried it and grepped for some common things that are not installed - that's where my suspection came from... Checked again, it's true: the "apt-get install" completion knows all, more than "dpkg -l"
[11:35] <houngan> coachJ: Yeah it says "download" somewhere and probably blocks the plugin so you will have to add the site to your trusted sites
[11:35] <gatekeeper> coachJ: yes you can just install the Firefox addins, make sure they support your version of firefox
[11:36] <coachJ> cool thks guys
[11:36] <houngan> np
[11:36] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: how can I have obtained a "dodgy iso"?
[11:36] <gatekeeper> teelittle: cool :-)
[11:36] <Gacha> can someone help me with sound problems?
[11:37] <houngan> Gacha: what is your problem
[11:37] <gatekeeper> Ayabara: when you downloaded (I assume you downloaded) when you burnt it, not all media is 100%
[11:37] <Gacha> I upgraded kernel and now sound "echoing"
[11:38] <Gacha> every sound repeats 5 times
[11:38] <Ayabara> when I boot, I see memtest as a choice. can I use this to check both hd and ram for errors?
[11:38] <Gacha> I try to reinstall alsa, but that doesnt help
[11:39] <Gacha> also I compiled my own kernel, but the same thing
[11:39] <houngan> Gacha: sry i cant help you, that is too complex for me :P
[11:39] <Gacha> for me to :)
[11:39] <gatekeeper> coachJ: for some bizzare reason the addin from this site http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/ I have found to be more reliable than trying to install the same addins from the official mozilla site
[11:39] <Tommy2k4> how can i limit upload speed using konqueror (or any other app for that matter)
[11:40] <Gacha> search smth about "shaper"
[11:40] <gatekeeper> Tommy2k4: limitin upload speed is usually done when using P2P apps
[11:40] <Tommy2k4> not in this case
[11:41] <Gacha> Tommy2k4: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/net/shaper
[11:41] <gatekeeper> Tommy2k4: you got an ftp server or something?
[11:41] <Tommy2k4> nah just wanna upload some audio to yousendit
[11:41] <dinwath> 'nite
[11:41] <houngan> gatekeeper: Apollon says "Operation not permitted(1)" when i try to connect - is that some common problem or is this probably caused by my router / firewall
[11:42] <Gacha> how is correct in english, that sound is echoing? (repeating many times)
[11:42] <Tommy2k4> thats correct
[11:43] <gatekeeper> houngan: providing you have the universe repos enabled it shouldn't be a problem
[11:43] <Gacha> hmm, but I did't find anything usefull in google :(
[11:43] <houngan> gatekeeper: yeah i enabled universe and multiverse
[11:43] <Ayabara> anyone got an advice on a good torrent client? I've been using azureus, but I don't like it very much.. I use utorrent in xp, but I'm not sure if I want to look for wine-solutions just yet..
[11:44] <houngan> gatekeeper: well the GUI pops up but the "Info" tab says "Operation not permitted"
[11:44] <gatekeeper> houngan: the only port forwarding I did on my router was for some P2P software I was originally using on windows
[11:44] <livecd64> Hello, using the Kubuntu 6.06 AMD64 LiveCD works well, but when booting into the newly installed system i get PCI listing, then ACPI 9 and everything stops ...
[11:45] <houngan> gatekeeper: the program cant connect to giftd network
[11:47] <gatekeeper> houngan: you need to ensure you can connect to the repos, then sudo apt-get install apollen
[11:47] <jim__> hello i am new to ubuntu and I am trying to download libdvdcss and I cannot get the syntax correct can someone please help me
[11:48] <Gacha> apt-get install libdvdcss
[11:48] <gatekeeper> houngan: this is what I am using but you need to disable the 'non free' as those repos have been taken off line http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:49] <coachJ> ok thks
[11:51] <gatekeeper> jim__: libdvdcss doesn't appear to be in the repos, as far as I can see
[11:53] <jim__> where would i find libdvdcss?
[11:54] <crimsun> jim__: see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[11:55] <gatekeeper> jim__: you probable want libdvdcss2 take a look at this: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[11:55] <jim__> when i type apt-get install libdvdcss, it returns the following: could not open lock file open (13 permission denied)
[11:55] <Cntryboy> anyone tried istanbul?
[11:55] <hari> ok i confess i couldnt sleep :)
[11:55] <crimsun> jim__: you need to use sudo.
[11:55] <BKaj> jim__: try ADEPT
[11:55] <hari> i ran into a new problem
[11:55] <crimsun> jim__: again, read the link I gave you.
[11:56] <hari> i was playing with the Theme Manager
[11:57] <hari> but i was "intelligent" enough to save my current theme before testing the other themes
[11:57] <hari> and i did restore my original theme except...
[11:58] <hari> now my little icons have misteriously disappeared
[11:59] <gatekeeper> crimsun: hmmm that filepath doesn't exist on my pc
[11:59] <hari> these are the cute icons that used to be present on the left side of the desktop right click menu
[11:59] <hari> could some one help me in getting them back
[11:59] <coachJ> we need a Kubuntu 6 Starter guide
[12:00] <gatekeeper> crimsun: but I have got /usr/share/doc/libdvdcss2 :-)
[12:00] <houngan> gatekeeper: haha i am a dumb monkey, i didnt install giFt
[12:01] <gatekeeper> houngan: happens to all of us :-)
[12:01] <houngan> gatekeeper: strange that the apollon package doesnt require that
[12:01] <hari> could some one help me in getting those little icons that appear to the left side of the desktop right click menu
[12:01] <hari> they have mysteriously disapperad after i tried out different themes
[12:02] <gatekeeper> houngan: so long as there is a route to your repos or you have it in the cache it should be ok
[12:02] <coachJ> can we Kubuntu user follow the Ubuntu Dapper Installation Guide?
[12:03] <houngan> coachJ: i think it's basically the same
[12:03] <gatekeeper> coachJ: kubuntu is just Dapper with a KDE window manager so yes
[12:04] <hari> hmmm
[12:04] <gatekeeper> coachJ: what do you want to install?
[12:05] <coachJ> someone should document and post the instalition and set up of a Kubuntu system for the average user
[12:05] <houngan> ah cmon its not that hard
[12:05] <coachJ> again I am just fishing, nothing in paticular
[12:05] <houngan> my installation was: put cd in, boot,click install icon on desktop
[12:06] <gatekeeper> coachJ: if you want some usefull links have a look at my little home page: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[12:06] <coachJ> not what i mean
[12:06] <coachJ> i'll look
[12:07] <coachJ> cool
[12:07] <gatekeeper> houngan: he is probable talking about some user guide after installation
[12:07] <crimsun> gatekeeper: many video apps will suggest/recommend libdvdread3.
[12:08] <coachJ> what I mean is the steps to set up a machine that will do what the avg windows user would expect from a store bought machine