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| h3sp4wn | Is there a list of stuff that kde wants packaging ? I have mananged to hack my way through getting libinstrudeo and liavdecode svn compiled in a really unclean way - wondered if there was any ones that need to be done | 12:33 |
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| h3sp4wn | Or a list ? | 12:33 |
| h3sp4wn | Getting libinstrudeo working without ffpeg is beyond me | 12:34 |
| crimsun | you need to link the symbols in statically. | 12:34 |
| crimsun | which means hacking Makefile.am | 12:35 |
| crimsun | or Makefile.in if you're luckier | 12:35 |
| h3sp4wn | statically from ffpeg ? | 12:36 |
| crimsun | from libavcodec and libavformat | 12:38 |
| crimsun | -dev for both | 12:38 |
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| h3sp4wn | I will try - I didn't believe honestly that I could get it to work this far - (I have 3 deb's which can be installed to get screenkast_0.1.2-1 - but I am not happy of the method at all) | 12:45 |
| jjesse | quick quewstion would you refer to the dvd as a live dvd or the desktop dvd? | 12:46 |
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| jjesse | can somone take a look at trying to replicate bug #52775, i can't confirm it | 01:11 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 52775 in adept "Add/Remove Program does not allow to enable universe" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/52775 | 01:11 |
| jjesse | it is actually adept | 01:11 |
| kwwii | http://bootsplash.org/test-edgy.png | 01:12 |
| kwwii | feelings? | 01:12 |
| === abattoir drools | ||
| abattoir | kwwii: awesomeeeeeeeeeee | 01:12 |
| jjesse | i like it | 01:13 |
| kwwii | it still needs some work on the bottom highlights, but all in all I think it is interesting | 01:13 |
| h3sp4wn | crimsun: So just adding -static to the CFLAGS of libavcodec and libavformat makes it work fine - much easier than trying to build ffmpeg from scratch | 01:25 |
| h3sp4wn | But doing that is against debian / ubuntu policy right ? | 01:26 |
| crimsun | well you wouldn't do that for libavcodec and libavformat packages but in libinstrudeo's Makefile.{am,in} for their targets | 01:46 |
| kwwii | night all | 01:46 |
| crimsun | and yes, unless there's a really good reason, you're strongly discouraged from using static linking | 01:46 |
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| h3sp4wn | Doing the above for those 2 packages allows it to be built - Now if I statically link libstrudeo then that would take away any dependancies on libavcodec or libavformat right ? | 01:50 |
| crimsun | there should be no runtime dependency on libav{codec,format}-dev at all | 01:51 |
| crimsun | but it will get rid of the missing symbols | 01:51 |
| crimsun | error | 01:51 |
| nixternal | omg, that image kwwii posted is awesome | 01:52 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 02:43 |
| nixternal | hiya Hobbsee | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | hi nixternal :) | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | WOOHOO! | 02:45 |
| === Hobbsee is happy. | ||
| nixternal | about? | 02:45 |
| nixternal | hehe | 02:45 |
| nixternal | got some good sleep i take it | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: just saw my uni results | 02:47 |
| nixternal | and? | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | 02:48 | |
| nixternal | well obviously they are good | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | 02:48 | |
| Hobbsee | 02:48 | |
| Hobbsee | Year Study Period Unit Title Mark Grade Description Credits | 02:48 |
| === nixternal goes tomorrow and pays for uni | ||
| Hobbsee | 2006 First Half Year CBMS101 Introductory Chemistry A 68 CR Credit 3 | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | 2006 First Half Year COMP115 Intro to Computer Science 77 D Distinction 3 | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | 2006 First Half Year MATH132 Mathematics IA (Advanced) 50 P Pass 3 | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | 2006 First Half Year PHYS140 Physics IA 68 CR Credit 3 | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | 02:48 | |
| Hobbsee | ack, dodgy paste | 02:48 |
| nixternal | no, good paste | 02:48 |
| nixternal | cruddy classes...except for compsci ;) | 02:48 |
| === nixternal hates physics and chem | ||
| nixternal | don't let laserjock know though | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, same here | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: heh...i try to avoid interviews like the plague... | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | well, yeah....the maths sucks. | 02:49 |
| nixternal | i enjoy math and puters though..as well as speech | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:49 |
| nixternal | i just got my schedule today as a matter of fact | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | first half of chem was good | 02:49 |
| nixternal | mine is sweet!!! | 02:49 |
| nixternal | CIS 1150 Intro to CompSci | 02:50 |
| nixternal | CIS 1310 HTML & CSS | 02:50 |
| nixternal | CIS 1450 Intro Linux/Unix Programming | 02:50 |
| nixternal | booyah | 02:50 |
| nixternal | and because of my background...the first 2 are internet, which means i can complete them in a week if possible | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | nice :) | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | ah ha! /me has just found a reasonable time for a meeting. | 02:56 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt have uni much on fridays :) | ||
| === nixternal likes friday meetings as weel | ||
| nixternal | well | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | it'd be your thursday | 02:57 |
| nixternal | UTC time? | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | otherwise, it's wednesday night, 2100 UTC. | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | must be on wednesday. | 02:58 |
| nixternal | that is 16:00 my time | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 02:58 |
| nixternal | right before dinner, so it isn't to shabby | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | 7am my time, but i dont have a class till 10am | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | i could do 1am UTC onwards on fridays.... | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | maybe. pending work. | 03:00 |
| nixternal | i like that time as well | 03:00 |
| allee | Hobbsee: so you suggest Wednesday 21.00 UTC? Fine with me :) | 03:00 |
| nixternal | 0100 UTC = 20:00 my time | 03:00 |
| nixternal | any time is good for me | 03:00 |
| allee | nixternal: lucky guy | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | allee: yeah. as long as it stays as wednesday. otherwise i'll be skipping maths, and that is Very Bad (tm) - look at my maths mark above | 03:01 |
| allee | oh, oh | 03:01 |
| === allee hates sf.net | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:01 |
| === Hobbsee hates ndiswrapper, which DOESNT WORK | ||
| Hobbsee | grumble grumble. | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | anyway, breakfast time, etc, then i have to drop my car in for service. which should have been done a couple of hours ago. | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: i have the slight problem that i still live at home, so the parents tend to chuck a cow at me after 2am... | 03:02 |
| nixternal | lol | 03:02 |
| nixternal | understandable... | 03:02 |
| === allee tries ftp to upload. grmble | ||
| Hobbsee | lol | 03:04 |
| allee | Hobbsee: ha,ha, not funny. I want to sleep and can't get the digikam* release uploaded %^&*^@##@^& | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | :( | 03:05 |
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| === allee gives up | ||
| Hobbsee | :( | 03:27 |
| allee | nite | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | night allee | 03:28 |
| allee | Hobbsee: thx, I hope I don't dream about sf ;) | 03:28 |
| crimsun | oh you will | 03:28 |
| crimsun | it has sharp pointy teeth | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 03:28 |
| === Hobbsee eats crimsun | ||
| crimsun | I've had many a nightmare about my code exploding on sf.net | 03:29 |
| === Hobbsee has shart pointy teeth too | ||
| crimsun | I'm not very tasty, I warn you. | 03:29 |
| === Hobbsee shrugs | ||
| === Hobbsee is a vampire, after all. | ||
| Hobbsee | crimsun: guess i shouldnt eat one of the few members of the backports team, too... | 03:29 |
| crimsun | might be detrimental, true | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | hehe. might. | 03:31 |
| === Hobbsee really should join that. | ||
| crimsun | well, go ahead. jdong's pretty responsive. If not you can poke him here. | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: i think i'll get past MOTU first, think about core, and fix sections of kde if i can. | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | and learn python, hopefully. | 03:32 |
| crimsun | sounds like a plan. | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: and lose my job :P | 03:33 |
| crimsun | oh, have you prepared your wiki page for tomorrow? | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: sort of. | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: there's not that much i can say apart from "This is my list of uploads, this is my list of syncs, see my name all over the edgy changes list" | 03:33 |
| Lathiat | Hobbsee: thats basically, half of what you need to do | 03:34 |
| Lathiat | :) | 03:34 |
| crimsun | sure there is. | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | most of the membership stuff is still there | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | Lathiat: what's the other half? | 03:34 |
| === Hobbsee couldnt really find what they wanted. | ||
| Lathiat | the rest just describe your involvement, why your interested, etc | 03:34 |
| crimsun | organise your stuff into "what I plan to do as ubuntu-dev" and "ubuntu-core-dev" | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | ahh..right... | 03:34 |
| Lathiat | ex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrentLloyd | 03:34 |
| crimsun | actually you probably want to put that at the top of your wiki page | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: and "fix kde and organise it all" is a good answer? | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, that's what i thought | 03:35 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: hopefully more detailed | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: well, yeah :P | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | Lathiat: eek. okay | 03:36 |
| === Hobbsee hates writing such things. | ||
| crimsun | personally, put your plans at the top of the page | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | right | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | eek, imbrandon's machine is down, i think | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | how annoying. i wanted to use it. | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | i cant fix amarok without it. | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | speaking of which, i wonder where dholbach is. | 03:38 |
| Riddell | sleeping | 03:41 |
| === Riddell sleeps too | ||
| Hobbsee | Riddell: no you dont. | 03:42 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: you're clearly not sleeping now :P | 03:42 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i found a time for our meeting, and got my uni results :) | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | well, times. | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | anyway, i'm off to drop my car in for service. | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | or not. | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | the guys are at lunch :) | 03:57 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings | ||
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| nixternal | woohoo | 04:16 |
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| nixternal | haivn' issues there Hobbsee_? | 04:17 |
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| Hobbsee | okay, what'd i miss? | 04:32 |
| nixternal | just you joining and leaving | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | oh right, nothing major then | 04:33 |
| nixternal | you could say that | 04:33 |
| === Hobbsee pokes ndiswrapper and wpasupplicant with a long and *very* pointy stick. | ||
| === nixternal refuses to use them ;) | ||
| abattoir | nixternal, Hobbsee: hi :) | 04:34 |
| nixternal | hiya abattoir | 04:34 |
| abattoir | nixternal: Hawkwind from #kubuntu wanted to help w/ classroom | 04:34 |
| abattoir | i think he is the guy behind Linux for Dummies | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | hi abattoir | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: smart. | 04:35 |
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| nixternal | talked to Hawkwind earlier..he is very much needed for the classroom for sure ;) | 04:35 |
| abattoir | nixternal: oh ok, then.. he must have got to you before me... ;) | 04:36 |
| nixternal | ya, i talked to him a few hours ago | 04:36 |
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| === nixternal wants the cool cloak too | ||
| Hobbsee | nixternal: hehe, the membership cloak? | 04:37 |
| nixternal | hehe ya | 04:37 |
| nixternal | i have a naked one | 04:37 |
| nixternal | i feel so exposed ;) | 04:37 |
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| nixternal | heh | 04:40 |
| === Hobbsee builds knetworkmanager from svn. | ||
| Hobbsee | er, make that "tries to" | 04:50 |
| nixternal | lol | 04:51 |
| nixternal | i love when that happens | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | and we're not even using an updated network manager anyway. | 04:51 |
| === Hobbsee prods keybuk. | ||
| Hobbsee | but he's not here. | 04:51 |
| nixternal | i was gonna say..haven't seen um around | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | make[1] : *** No rule to make target `/opt/kde3/include/serviceiface.h', needed by `serviceiface.kidl'. Stop. | 04:52 |
| nixternal | /opt ?? | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | yeah... | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | dunno why | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | serviceiface.h doenst seem to exist anywhere. | 05:00 |
| === Hobbsee takes her laptop with her. | ||
| Hobbsee | wish i'd charged it more, but oh well | 05:00 |
| nixternal | i just ...never mind | 05:08 |
| crimsun | keybuk won't be present today unless for the TB meeting, which I doubt, because today is his birthday, and he's taking off. | 05:17 |
| nixternal | fair enough | 05:18 |
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| DaSkreech | Hi nixternal | 06:37 |
| nixternal | hiya DaSkreech | 06:38 |
| DaSkreech | Does http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ track Kubuntu as well? | 06:38 |
| DaSkreech | haha I guess so. katapult is more popular than kate | 06:40 |
| nixternal | i noticed that as well | 06:41 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all, who's around | 07:55 |
| Hobbsee | ? | 07:55 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: oh good, you're one of the ones i want to speak to. | 07:55 |
| imbrandon | heh | 07:55 |
| imbrandon | sup ? | 07:56 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: keybuk's birthday is today, so he will probably be gone since he's taking the day off. | 07:56 |
| === Hobbsee looks down her very long TODO list, to the section marked imbrandon | ||
| Hobbsee | crimsun: ahhh...right | 07:56 |
| imbrandon | lol | 07:56 |
| === Hobbsee looks for a section marked "crimsun" | ||
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, in about 2 hours i'm takin voyager down for ~15 minutes to add some ram and swap a vid card | 07:57 |
| === ajmitch is hopefully not on that list | ||
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: hey you! no, your'e not, actually | 07:57 |
| imbrandon | heya ajmitch | 07:57 |
| ajmitch | good | 07:57 |
| ajmitch | hello | 07:57 |
| Hobbsee | nope, no section marked crimsun or ajmitch | 07:57 |
| === ajmitch returns to coding | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | enjoy :) | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | Imbrandon: | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | Whinge about voyager not being alive. | 07:58 |
| imbrandon | ;P | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | Find out what happened to voyager | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | System settings, appearance, Firefox and thunderbird scrollbar fix. Could we add the firefox themes to that? Make it like the install_mp3.sh fix in amarok. | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | In fact, if it's legal to do that in amarok, is it legal to do that in all other multimedia apps? | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | We probably dont need it, with the commercial cannonical repository. | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | axe the last bit, if you want - it shouldnt be in your section | 07:58 |
| imbrandon | voyager was down earlier becouse of a bad ram stick, thus its only running on 128mb atm , thats why i'm going to take it down in about 2 hours to add 2gb back in ( got some new ) | 07:59 |
| === Hobbsee had a couple of hours to test stuff out, and write a big long to do list. | ||
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ouchy, okay | 07:59 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: i just redid that stuff, and set it to build again | 07:59 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 07:59 |
| imbrandon | np | 07:59 |
| imbrandon | it will just be slow for a while | 07:59 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: anyway, yeah. have you noticed what's been done with firefox/thunderbird scrollbar fix? | 08:00 |
| imbrandon | no i dident even look yet but was just getting ready to | 08:00 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: you could do the same thing with the theme, i expect - "press this button to give firefox a kde theme" | 08:00 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: I'm surprised you didn't ask to use my box as well | 08:00 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 08:00 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: hehe true, i was thinking about it | 08:01 |
| imbrandon | as far as the legal i dont think its ilegal to add libxine-extracodecs , its just not installed becouse its not in main ( lic issue i'm sure ) but it wouldent be i the repo if it was ilegal i would suspect | 08:02 |
| imbrandon | s/i/in/g | 08:03 |
| imbrandon | and umm what does that have to do with the commercial repo ? *kinda lost on that one* | 08:04 |
| Hobbsee|Phone | on phone | 08:04 |
| imbrandon | kk np , brb myself | 08:04 |
| Hobbsee|Phone | crud | 08:06 |
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| freeflying | crimsun: ping | 08:11 |
| crimsun | freeflying: pong | 08:13 |
| freeflying | crimsun: would you like sponsor upload http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/debdiff/scim-pinyin.debdiff | 08:14 |
| imbrandon | kwwii : ping ? ( anyone know what timzone he is in ? ) | 08:16 |
| abattoir | imbrandon: i think berlin | 08:16 |
| abattoir | @time Berlin | 08:16 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Europe/Berlin: July 18 2006, 08:16:31 | 08:16 |
| crimsun | freeflying: is it critical? main's frozen for Knot-1 | 08:16 |
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| imbrandon | thanks abattoir | 08:16 |
| freeflying | crimsun: this will improve the support of scim in any environment | 08:17 |
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| freeflying | crimsun: and we had many complains about the coffile in dapper for scim under zh_CN locales,so provide new one | 08:19 |
| crimsun | freeflying: does it fix a crash a startup? | 08:19 |
| crimsun | a crash at startup ^ | 08:19 |
| crimsun | freeflying: main's currently frozen for the first Edgy milestone, so unless it's critical, please let's wait a day or two | 08:20 |
| freeflying | at least it will fix ubuntu user can not input in qt/kde stuffs | 08:20 |
| crimsun | freeflying: so currently in Edgy a Ubuntu/Kubuntu user can't input in Qt? | 08:20 |
| freeflying | no , just qt/kde stuffs like skype, opera | 08:21 |
| crimsun | only Qt-only apps? not KDE ones? | 08:21 |
| crimsun | meaning KDE works ok? | 08:21 |
| freeflying | and also, the conffile now in dapper will crash some gtk spplications, due to the scim-gtk2-immodules | 08:22 |
| freeflying | ya, not kde applications | 08:22 |
| freeflying | s/spplications/applications | 08:22 |
| freeflying | crimsun: I've changed the conffile in scim-chewing, works fine in edgy now | 08:24 |
| crimsun | freeflying: my gut feeling is that we should wait til post-Knot-1 | 08:27 |
| crimsun | Knot-1 should be released later today anyway | 08:27 |
| Hobbsee|Phone | grr. meetings are inconvenient. | 08:29 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: only thing it has to do with commercial repo is that presumably they'd stick stuff like libxine-extracodecs in there? | 08:30 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, libxine isnt commercial | 08:32 |
| imbrandon | afaik | 08:32 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ah right. anyway, the idea was the same. | 08:32 |
| imbrandon | yea | 08:33 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: no idea if it's useful, i just saw it while testing stuff out. | 08:33 |
| imbrandon | hehe yea , i'm looking at it now as i'm building icewm | 08:34 |
| imbrandon | looks like it will actualy be simple enough to do | 08:34 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 08:34 |
| imbrandon | i might poke you aobut the scrooll bar stuff though i'm not familiar with that fix | 08:34 |
| imbrandon | but i stuck a qt button swap thing in there | 08:34 |
| crimsun | fix for what scrollbar stuff? | 08:35 |
| imbrandon | anyhow i'll poke you about that when i get to it | 08:35 |
| crimsun | .oO( is this the gtk2-engines-gtk-qt cruft? ) | 08:35 |
| imbrandon | crimsun, on ff / thunderbird | 08:35 |
| imbrandon | crimsun, semi yea | 08:35 |
| imbrandon | has to do with it | 08:35 |
| imbrandon | heh | 08:35 |
| crimsun | what's the fix or workaround? | 08:35 |
| crimsun | (seeing how people always seem to spam /me/ with that stuff) | 08:36 |
| imbrandon | dunno Hobbsee said there was one but i havent seen it yet and i was fixing the ff theme from the meeting today figureed could do it all at the same time | 08:36 |
| crimsun | freeflying: if Knot-1 is released today, I'll upload that scim-pinyin fix after main unfreezes | 08:37 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: making it executable didnt make it work - i'll have to do it in rules somehow | 08:39 |
| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport <- so needed right there to get this out to the super new users | 08:39 |
| nixternal | that is awesome...get to work guys on creating a KDE port now ;) | 08:39 |
| Hobbsee | apart from that, it works. | 08:40 |
| freeflying | crimsun: okey,thx | 08:40 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: ok, then do it in the build/foo:: target | 08:41 |
| crimsun | argh | 08:41 |
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| crimsun | 02:40 < crimsun> Hobbsee: ok, then do it in the build/foo:: target | 08:45 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: ahhh... | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: so build/amarok:: | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | target? | 08:46 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: it doesn't actually need to be executable, does it? You could always just ``/bin/bash some/path/to/install-mp3'' | 08:46 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: yes, build/amarok:: | 08:46 |
| crimsun | do it however you see fit | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: well, the script needs to be executable by the user | 08:46 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: which i'm presuming means it needs to be executable during install, so they dont have to chmod +x it themselves. | 08:47 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: ok, sure. | 08:47 |
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| Hobbsee | crimsun: would it go into build/amarok:: or install/amarok::? | 08:50 |
| drivelsun | 08:50 | |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: either. | 08:50 |
| drivelsun | sorry,man.I don't know this is a English Channel | 08:52 |
| abattoir | nixternal: wouldn't a 'Support' link to Konversation do the same? | 08:53 |
| nixternal | i have a spec similar, but it goes one step further | 08:53 |
| nixternal | not jsut to konvo, but a script/app that would auto config konvo for them, and get the online w/o knowing anything about irc | 08:53 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: already being planned, talk to sho_ | 08:54 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: abattoir: you should check out the latest edgy - it has a "help, get help online" thing | 08:55 |
| nixternal | there is one problem, which i am working on..and that is for those users with a winmodem..they are skrewed..because all help docs for winmodems point to the wiki..so i am looking at adding the Winmodem info into the Kubuntu Desktop Guide which in turn makes it into khelpcenter | 08:56 |
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| nixternal | and then....include scanModem utility to figure out their chipset | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: that would be smart | 08:57 |
| crimsun | are you coordinating with sfflaw? | 08:57 |
| abattoir | Hobbsee: really? where? | 08:57 |
| Hobbsee | abattoir: edgy kde apps | 08:57 |
| imbrandon | abattoir, any kde app | 08:57 |
| nixternal | actually...chattin' it up with jjesse concerning that...i will bring it up with sflaw for some info/input, or if i can help him out | 08:58 |
| nixternal | but it definately needs to get changed in the guides as well as in khelpcenter | 08:58 |
| crimsun | nixternal: ok, since he's heading up the dial-up team (...which I should join at some point) | 08:58 |
| abattoir | oh, ok i see it, has the launchpad rocket logo... doesnt seem to do anything though(or is it because i have konversation open?) | 08:58 |
| nixternal | ahhh..cool crimsun, i appreciate that info right there | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | er, it does do something, but LP is down for maintenence. | 09:00 |
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| abattoir | imbrandon, Hobbsee: it is still non-functional now? | 09:01 |
| Hobbsee | er, it does do something, but LP is down for maintenence. | 09:01 |
| abattoir | "Translate" also does not seem to do anything | 09:02 |
| Hobbsee | there was an update for it this morning | 09:02 |
| abattoir | oh ok, that explains it | 09:02 |
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| nixternal | g'nite | 09:07 |
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| Hobbsee | night nixternal | 09:09 |
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| raphink | Riddell: are you there? | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: maybe a bit early? he went to bed at 3am or something crazy | 09:19 |
| raphink | oh ok | 09:19 |
| raphink | well then I'll wait | 09:19 |
| raphink | 3 of my colleagues would like kubuntu CDs | 09:19 |
| raphink | and I'm giving a lot here | 09:19 |
| raphink | so I'm thinking of asking him to send me a few ... | 09:19 |
| raphink | ;) | 09:19 |
| raphink | say... a hundred or so if possible | 09:20 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | yea i gave a TON ( 50 ) out at a trade show saturday | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | was showing it off on my ibook ;) | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | on amarok and my ipod | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | everyone loved it | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | heh | 09:20 |
| === Hobbsee checks on the progress of amarok. | ||
| Hobbsee | bah | 09:21 |
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| === imbrandon snickers at hobbsee's kponies | ||
| === Hobbsee snickers as well | ||
| imbrandon | heh and i get to package it ;) | 09:32 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: you still around? | 09:36 |
| imbrandon | yea | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | building icewm | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 09:37 |
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| crimsun | well I did have to use an example, and you were easy targets | 10:01 |
| crimsun | =] | 10:01 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: hehe | 10:01 |
| imbrandon | crimsun, hehe yea ;) | 10:26 |
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| Hobbsee | debian #351702 | 11:08 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 351702 in ksudoku "Subject: ksudoku: Does not create an item in KDE menu" [Minor,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/351702 | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | hi _czessi | 11:08 |
| _czessi | Hi Hobbsee | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | hum. that's interesting. | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | kmenu's gone screwy. | 11:10 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: when do we get daily builds of konvi for edgy? | 11:16 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 11:16 |
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| Hobbsee | malone 31923 | 11:29 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 31923 in kdepim "kalarm is started in gnome" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31923 | 11:29 |
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| Hobbsee | morning Riddell | 01:18 |
| Riddell | hi Hobbsee | 01:19 |
| === Hobbsee is very sleepy. | ||
| === Hobbsee is finally back in AEST, it seems - tired at 9.20pm. | ||
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i fixed amarok :D | 01:20 |
| Riddell | woo | 01:21 |
| Riddell | in which way? | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: now the install mp3 script works, and it installs in /usr/bin, so those other couple of session bugs should be fixed too. | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2726 for when main unfreezes. | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: for the UVF exception for kopete, the changelog is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17990 | 01:24 |
| Hobbsee | argh, what else was there | 01:24 |
| === Hobbsee looks at her list again | ||
| Hobbsee | oh yeah, all but two of the kscreensavers work OOTB, which is way better than usual (i think we had less than half working OOTB in dapper) | 01:25 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: your launchpad integration package. do you want to know about a bug for it now, or file it on launchpad? | 01:25 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: what up? | 01:25 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: launchpad integration doesnt use default browser - uses konqueror | 01:26 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: the reason i found so much stuff was cos i had a few hours to kill with no internet connection, waiting for my car to be fixed. | 01:26 |
| Riddell | it uses /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser | 01:29 |
| Riddell | you have a car? | 01:29 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yes. i have a car. | 01:29 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: why? | 01:29 |
| === verwilst gets a new company car in a few months | ||
| verwilst | my old one is 4.5 yours, too old for a leasing car ;) ;) | 01:30 |
| verwilst | years* | 01:30 |
| verwilst | this totally off the record ofcourse :p | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | verwilst: hehe | 01:30 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: okay, then the setting the browser setting in system settings, kde components, browser, doesnt work properly. | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | sarah@sarah:~$ sudo update-alternatives --display x-www-browser | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | x-www-browser - status is auto. | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | link currently points to /usr/bin/konqueror | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | /usr/bin/konqueror - priority 100 | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | slave x-www-browser.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/konqueror.1.gz | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | Current `best' version is /usr/bin/konqueror. | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, system settings, kde components, browser, likely doesnt set that properly | 01:34 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: what does kfmclient openURL http://google.com use? | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: firefox, the default browser | 01:35 |
| Riddell | so guess we should modify launchpad-integration to use that | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: quite likely, yes. did you want to patch it? | 01:36 |
| Riddell | Il ask seb what the best thing to do it | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: okay, cool | 01:36 |
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| === imbrandon wants $1,000,000 | ||
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, as soon as i modify the script to use a edgy pbuilder also ;) | 01:48 |
| imbrandon | w.r.t koversation nightly's | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: nice, okay. | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: you should just be able to use edgybuild instead of dapperbuild? or just change the location of the configfile? | 01:49 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, right now the build env for nightlys is on enterprise not voyager | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ah right | 01:49 |
| imbrandon | but i could add those scripts to enterprise ;) | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | true | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | its set to run in ~10 minutes , i'll see if i can modify it before then ( 12 noon utc ) | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | cool | 01:51 |
| === Hobbsee notes that the ksudoku desktop file didnt seem to install. how bizarre. | ||
| Hobbsee | it did in dapper. | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | and in the changelog they've got it updated, saying that they're installing it. | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm... | 01:51 |
| imbrandon | gah , i just noticed , enterprise is still breezy lol, might need to upgrade that one today | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | ouch? heh | 01:52 |
| imbrandon | leaste it wasent horay , heh i tend to just let that server go, its the nfs server ( and i use it to schedule stuff ) heh | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, i finaly found a bubbles wallpaper i like ;P now if they would just hue-shift it to purple it would be perfect for edgy ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/KubuntuWallpaperProposals <-- the first one ) | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | wonder if kwwii has seen that yet .... probably | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: how pretty :) | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | hehe yea much nicer than the current bubbles ;) | 01:58 |
| imbrandon | and still is kdeish ;P | 01:58 |
| Hobbsee | maybe we wont have bubbles this time | 01:59 |
| imbrandon | hehe maybe not, but if we do that would be cool imo but i guess its ultimately upto Riddell / kwwii ;) | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: more likely up to the KCC, i expect. | 02:00 |
| Hobbsee | and kwwii, of course | 02:00 |
| imbrandon | i do like the "glass" look of them though and would fit the images he has on bootsplash.org | 02:00 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, exactly :) | 02:01 |
| imbrandon | well if shifted to purple ;) heh , anyhow enough art for me for now, back to work on something programish | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: you can look at and fix the screensavers, if you want. | 02:04 |
| imbrandon | hrm sure, let me finish this konv script and the firefox thing | 02:04 |
| imbrandon | poor little enterprise, dist-upgrading and its only a 333mhz with 96mb ram ;P | 02:06 |
| imbrandon | perfect file server though 4 x 400gb sata drives raid 0 in it ;) | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | cmvo: ping? | 02:08 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: heh | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | dapperbuild sticks the result in ../ right ? | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: it should, but it doesnt | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: it actually goes into /var/pbuilder/dapper/result | 02:12 |
| imbrandon | kk | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: i think pbuilder stopped taking that directory | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | s/directory/switch | 02:12 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, i'm goona modify those later to use the local apt mirror too , i just thought about it and i have a dapper / edgy local apt mirror on enterprise i dident tell you about ;P | 02:12 |
| imbrandon | would save hundreds of mb of downloads on deps | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: heh, true | 02:13 |
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| Mez | Riddell, ping | 02:13 |
| Riddell | hi Mez | 02:13 |
| imbrandon | moins Mez | 02:14 |
| OculusAquilae | hi Mez | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | hey Mez | 02:14 |
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| Mez | too many people | 02:14 |
| imbrandon | lol | 02:14 |
| OculusAquilae | :) | 02:14 |
| Mez | Riddell - when you arriving at LRL ? | 02:14 |
| === Hobbsee hugs Mez so he cant run away | ||
| Riddell | Mez: dunno, the trains are on strike, I may never get there | 02:14 |
| Mez | lol - well you coming down the day before or what? | 02:15 |
| Mez | (and I thought you were going in a cat with pickle again ?) | 02:15 |
| Riddell | was planning on getting a train | 02:16 |
| Mez | who's brining the kubuntu CDs ? | 02:16 |
| Riddell | me | 02:16 |
| Mez | lol - fair enough - well - I'll see if I can hijack a lappy for the stand | 02:17 |
| === Hobbsee holds onto her laptop. | ||
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| === imbrandon just wants a plane ticket to europe ;) | ||
| nixternal | drive!!! | 02:20 |
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| === Hobbsee suspects Riddell cant drive. | ||
| === nixternal is talking about imbrandon ;) | ||
| Riddell | I have a licence, although I wouldn't trust myself | 02:21 |
| nixternal | he needs herby the love bug so he can drive across the ocean ;) | 02:22 |
| Riddell | but no car is the problem there | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: really? i guess you wouldnt really need it where you are... | 02:22 |
| nixternal | Riddell: rent you a ferrari or lamborghini...you would make there in no time ;) | 02:22 |
| Mez | Riddell: rent one ? | 02:24 |
| Mez | Riddell: poke Mark ask if he'll chopper you down there | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | hee | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | *hehe | 02:24 |
| Riddell | seaLne: any idea if neuro still has a free seat in his car? | 02:24 |
| Mez | Riddell: er - I believe neuro's coming from france | 02:26 |
| === Hobbsee wonders where they're all going. | ||
| Mez | oh, no - he's on his way back now | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | LGL | 02:27 |
| Mez | LRL | 02:27 |
| Mez | :P | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | LRL yea lol | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | i got that much. that doesnt help me. | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | linux radio live , germany | 02:27 |
| Mez | UK not germany | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | arg /me shuts up now lol i thought it was in germany, thats the dev sprint or something else | 02:28 |
| Mez | imbrandon, http://www.lugradio.org/live/2006 | 02:28 |
| Mez | Riddell: couldnt you get a coach ? | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | ah... | 02:29 |
| OculusAquilae | Mez: got my e-mail? | 02:34 |
| Mez | to which email addresS? | 02:36 |
| OculusAquilae | mez@thekatapult.org.uk | 02:36 |
| OculusAquilae | forgot others :) | 02:36 |
| Mez | OculusAquilae - leave SVN for now - use bzr | 02:37 |
| Mez | whats wrong with the bzr on the server ? | 02:37 |
| OculusAquilae | bzr: ERROR: Parent directory of sftp://u39654752-katoculus@thekatapult.org.uk/0.3.x-dev does not exist. | 02:38 |
| Mez | hahah | 02:38 |
| Mez | thats f**ked up | 02:38 |
| OculusAquilae | tvo couldn't connect neither | 02:38 |
| Mez | thats because you have it in the root dir of the FTP | 02:38 |
| Mez | I'm happy to give you guys access to the root | 02:39 |
| Mez | but you'll have to like - change your configs | 02:39 |
| Mez | to use | 02:39 |
| Mez | sftp://u39654752-katoculus@thekatapult.org.uk/oculus/0.3.x-dev | 02:39 |
| OculusAquilae | hm | 02:41 |
| imbrandon | heh those usernames look like 1and1 accounts ;P | 02:42 |
| Mez | imbrandon, they are | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:42 |
| Mez | though when I launch my new site - i'm gonna be having my own server | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | imbrandon.com resides on 1and1 but all my other sites are on dreamhost | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | he thats why i reconised them | 02:42 |
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| imbrandon | sudo chown -R buntudot.users pool/ | 02:51 |
| imbrandon | gah | 02:51 |
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| jjesse | join #ubuntu-bugs | 03:00 |
| jjesse | doh | 03:00 |
| Mez | Riddell: so - do you want me to wait till you can get there or just man the stand until you do? | 03:13 |
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| Riddell | Mez: for what? | 03:18 |
| Mez | the KDe stall | 03:22 |
| === Hobbsee glares at kaffeien. | ||
| Riddell | Mez: wait for what? stand duty will be shared between me, you, seaLne, dannya and Ben Lamb depending on who doesn't want to watch a talk at the time | 03:24 |
| Mez | oh - kk - didnt know there was going to be that many people :D | 03:24 |
| Mez | lol | 03:24 |
| Mez | but you're setting up the stand - arent you ? | 03:24 |
| Mez | who's going to man it to start with ? | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: kaffiene, like amarok, only uses xine now, doesnt it? not amarok? | 03:25 |
| Riddell | yes, only xine for kaffeine | 03:25 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: good, so tonio_'s just screwed this up. | 03:26 |
| Mez | Riddell: who's setting up the stand ? | 03:28 |
| Riddell | Mez: what needs set up? | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | or this is just screwed up anyway. hmmm. | 03:30 |
| Mez | Riddell: I dont know - you tell me - I'm guessing at least the CDs and a Demo lappy | 03:30 |
| Riddell | putting CDs onto a table doesn't take long | 03:32 |
| Mez | lol | 03:32 |
| Mez | it does if you dont have the CDs | 03:32 |
| Mez | I can bring some breezy CDs :P | 03:32 |
| Mez | (but ubuntu not kubuntu) | 03:33 |
| Riddell | that won't go down well on a KDE stand | 03:34 |
| Mez | ;) | 03:34 |
| Mez | are the Kubuntu CDs the ones that are being sent through shipit ? | 03:34 |
| Riddell | yes | 03:35 |
| Mez | cool I may have to steal some seeing as mine havent come yey | 03:35 |
| Mez | yet * | 03:35 |
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| jjesse | man pastebin is slow :( | 04:16 |
| Riddell | CDs up for testing: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20060718/ | 04:27 |
| Riddell | CDs up for testing: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060718/ | 04:27 |
| jjesse | oooo | 04:27 |
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| jjesse | Riddell: is that the knot-1 disk or just aa daily? | 04:58 |
| Riddell | jjesse: it's the candidate knot 1 | 05:27 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: graphics wise, if i was to take screenshots for "Knot 1" and Kubuntu for documentation...would I be safe doing so with "Candidate Knot 1", or should I wait until the first Knot is released? | 05:36 |
| nixternal | Riddell: polite poke..imbrandon just tested nixternal@kubuntu.org and he received (reason: 550 <nixternal@kubuntu.org>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table) | 05:43 |
| Riddell | nixternal: yeah, that would be good | 05:50 |
| nixternal | sweet | 05:50 |
| === nixternal fires up vmware | ||
| nixternal | is this cd stable enough to be run outside of vm? | 05:50 |
| nixternal | if so, i must might put it on the lappy and run with it | 05:50 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I'm not sure how often the kubuntu-membership to e-mail syncing is done, wait a couple of days then we'll complain to the sysadmins | 05:51 |
| nixternal | thank you | 05:51 |
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| Tonio_ | hey | 06:01 |
| Riddell | hi Tonio_ | 06:02 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: available to upload latest gwenview ? | 06:02 |
| kwwii | hi all | 06:03 |
| imbrandon | moins art god ;) | 06:03 |
| Tonio_ | hey kwwii | 06:03 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: hey man, wassup? | 06:03 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: hum, nothing special ;)= | 06:04 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, wasent there a list of kde packages that needed a dep removed and rebuilt? if so can you point me to that again please | 06:04 |
| Tonio_ | I'm looking at a kaffeine bug hobbsee reported me.... | 06:04 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: and you, how is the job going ? | 06:04 |
| kwwii | good | 06:04 |
| kwwii | busy | 06:04 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: it'll need to wait until after Knot 1 | 06:05 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I can imagin | 06:05 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: /topic | 06:05 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: they only need rebuilt | 06:05 |
| imbrandon | k | 06:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I can see with raphink eventually | 06:06 |
| Tonio_ | there is no emergency | 06:06 |
| raphink | Riddell: are you there? | 06:29 |
| Riddell | hi raphink | 06:30 |
| raphink | hi Riddell :) | 06:30 |
| Tonio_ | hey raphink | 06:38 |
| raphink | yop Tonio_ | 06:38 |
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| nixternal | nice edgy wallpaper there ;) | 07:08 |
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| kwwii | nixternal: where? | 07:12 |
| jjesse | check out the relase today :) | 07:12 |
| nixternal | the one on Riddell's pre knot release | 07:12 |
| jjesse | the daily build | 07:12 |
| nixternal | it has big yellow letters | 07:12 |
| nixternal | lol | 07:12 |
| Riddell | raphink did that | 07:12 |
| nixternal | Edgy Eft (Early) Development Version | 07:12 |
| nixternal | lol | 07:12 |
| nixternal | have him add a drop shadow and it will own ;) | 07:12 |
| === nixternal wants to pop them bubbles that kwwii pulled from...... | ||
| raphink | thank you Riddell :) | 07:13 |
| nixternal | outstanding artwork there raphink on that one ;) | 07:13 |
| kwwii | hehe | 07:13 |
| raphink | nixternal: heh :) I'm not that bad with gimp | 07:14 |
| raphink | lol | 07:14 |
| nixternal | hahah | 07:14 |
| kwwii | later tonight i will start a wiki page with art stuff for edgy | 07:14 |
| nixternal | nice | 07:14 |
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| nixternal | that kubuntu image you posted yesterday was awesome btw kwwii | 07:14 |
| kwwii | good to hear that :-) | 07:15 |
| nixternal | im gonna get that tattooed on my forehead...im selling my forehead for advertising | 07:15 |
| Riddell | which image was that? | 07:15 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, hue-shift this first one to purple and it would rock https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/KubuntuWallpaperProposals | 07:15 |
| kwwii | http://bootsplash.org/test-edgy.png | 07:15 |
| imbrandon | ROCKIN !! | 07:15 |
| abattoir | http://bootsplash.org/test-edgy.png | 07:15 |
| abattoir | oh, ok :) | 07:16 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: yeah, with a bit of touching up it could be perfect | 07:16 |
| imbrandon | dude thats awesome | 07:16 |
| nixternal | now those are bubbles | 07:16 |
| kwwii | anyway...time for a dinner meeting with a prospective client | 07:16 |
| nixternal | +1 imbrandon on the purple shift | 07:16 |
| kwwii | have fun | 07:16 |
| kwwii | bbl | 07:16 |
| nixternal | l8r | 07:16 |
| imbrandon | dude that test-edgy.png FREAKIN ROCKS | 07:16 |
| kwwii | :-) | 07:16 |
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| Riddell | ooh, new KTorrent due | 07:29 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, do you want these build as i do them or want em to save 5 - 10 and give em to ya all at once ? | 07:29 |
| imbrandon | s/to/or | 07:29 |
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| imbrandon | +1 ktorrent ;P | 07:30 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: want what built? | 07:31 |
| imbrandon | i'm going down the libgamin0 list | 07:31 |
| imbrandon | make sure each builds and uploading | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | making | 07:32 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: do debdiffs (which should be just a new changelog entry) and put the URL in the table next to the package name on that wiki page | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | with just a dch -i ( thats all it needs ya said correct ? ) | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | kk | 07:32 |
| Riddell | assuming it builds | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | soudsn good | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | right right | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | yea i'm building them as i go testing them | 07:33 |
| imbrandon | arson is the only ftbs so far | 07:33 |
| Riddell | autoconf issue? | 07:33 |
| imbrandon | no actualy something in the auto.c i think | 07:33 |
| imbrandon | i would have to look again | 07:33 |
| imbrandon | i think its a gcc4.1 issue | 07:33 |
| Riddell | fun | 07:34 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: argh, I asked you on the bad channel.... damn ^^ | 07:49 |
| === Tonio_ puts the ubuntu-devel tab at the oposite of kubuntu-devel one | ||
| Riddell | I wouldn't describe #ubuntu-devel as "bad" :) | 07:51 |
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| imbrandon | hehe | 07:53 |
| jjesse | man doing online learning is sooooooooo boring | 07:55 |
| jjesse | zzzzzzzzzz | 07:55 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: not "bad" but I'm not sure it was the better place to ask for advices :) | 08:12 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: any opinion on this ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnthonyMercatante | 08:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: "numeric life"? | 08:24 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: you say Universe but many of those packages are main | 08:25 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: looks lovely | 08:26 |
| mornfall | hi | 08:39 |
| mornfall | kubuntu-default-settings uses kconfig cascading right? | 08:40 |
| mornfall | (don't have kubuntu install handy... need to create a xen domain for it, hmm, hmm) | 08:41 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, what version should this goto ? dekorator (0.2fix1-1) dapper; urgency=low 0.2fix1-2 ? | 08:41 |
| imbrandon | or 0.2fix1-1ubuntu1 | 08:43 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: numeric life looks like a very bad word to word translation from french ;) | 08:50 |
| seaLne | Riddell: nope sorry have you tried asking him (neuro incase you can't remember what you asked me :)? | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | time to eat | 08:51 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell, ok i got a few 7+ uploaded and linked, pluss the FTBS logs for 2 if you wanna look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates , i'm done for a few hours | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | erm your probably goin to sleep i can poke someone else about them ;P | 09:38 |
| Riddell | mornfall: yes it does | 09:40 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: dekorator 0.2fix1-1build1 | 09:40 |
| imbrandon | ok Riddell ignor the diff for dekorator then , i'll redo that one | 09:41 |
| imbrandon | but there are arround 7 more ready for uploads | 09:41 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: after the tech board meeting hobbsee should be able to | 09:41 |
| imbrandon | 5 -7 , dident count | 09:41 |
| Riddell | do them :) | 09:41 |
| imbrandon | ahhh yea /me forgot about that | 09:42 |
| imbrandon | heheh | 09:42 |
| jjesse | so we should cheer for hobbsee | 09:42 |
| imbrandon | i will ( not that my vote coulnts __much__ ) | 09:42 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 09:42 |
| imbrandon | counts* | 09:42 |
| imbrandon | jjesse, yea .... | 09:46 |
| imbrandon | [14:43] <imbrandon> yup its in 20 minutes , its the one hobbsee is going for motu ;) | 09:46 |
| imbrandon | [14:43] <LaserJock> \o/ | 09:46 |
| imbrandon | [14:43] <zul> oh yesh...totoally forgot about that | 09:46 |
| imbrandon | [14:43] <imbrandon> LaserJock, you mean i cants install in /opt/<package> </sarcasim> | 09:46 |
| imbrandon | [14:43] <LaserJock> we need to overwhelm the TB with cheerleading | 09:46 |
| imbrandon | [14:43] <imbrandon> LaserJock, right on | 09:46 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, you might skype her about 10 till since she's not online | 09:47 |
| imbrandon | cuz it is 20 till 6am there heh | 09:47 |
| jjesse | making her wake up early :) | 09:48 |
| mornfall | Riddell: you use some tools to prepare it? | 09:51 |
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| mornfall | or is it hand-crafted? | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | hi mornfall | 09:52 |
| mornfall | hi Hobbsee | 09:53 |
| jjesse | morning Hobbsee | 09:53 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: oh good, you're also on my list of people to speak to | 09:54 |
| imbrandon | uht oh ;) | 09:55 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:55 |
| mornfall | what's up | 09:56 |
| === mornfall is busy beating up kde into some shape for fedora core 6 test 2 | ||
| Hobbsee | morning Riddell! | 09:56 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:57 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: did adept_batch install libxine-extracodecs ever exist? | 09:57 |
| mornfall | it possibly did... | 09:57 |
| mornfall | hmm, it may have gone away in 2.1 | 09:57 |
| === mornfall has completely forgotten about adept_batch | ||
| Hobbsee | mornfall: was more a curiousity question | 09:58 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:58 |
| === Hobbsee just changed it to use apt instead, seeing as people may be installing amarok from gnome, therefore not having adept - but everyone has apt | ||
| Tonio_ | hey mornfall | 09:58 |
| mornfall | oh, you mean you won't make amarok depends: adept? :'( :p | 09:59 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: well, i could... :P | 09:59 |
| mornfall | if someone feels like helping, it shouldn't be hard to add adept-batch package in ubuntu and depend only on that | 09:59 |
| mornfall | i won't add it in debian yet, since it's sort of deprecated anyway :) | 09:59 |
| mornfall | but it mostly works | 10:00 |
| Riddell | hi Hobbsee | 10:00 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: dont die of shock, i'm actually awake | 10:00 |
| Riddell | mornfall: no, it's all hand crafted by taking my ~/.kde and slimming it down to what's needed | 10:01 |
| Riddell | and putting this in /etc/kderc | 10:01 |
| Riddell | [Directories-default] | 10:01 |
| Riddell | prefixes=/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/ | 10:01 |
| mornfall | hmm, it's 10 pm around my longitude | 10:01 |
| mornfall | Riddell: okey, so it still makes sense to write a tool to distill profile from a given user's home directory :) | 10:01 |
| Hobbsee | @time sydney | 10:01 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Australia/Sydney: July 19 2006, 06:02:02 | 10:01 |
| mornfall | which is what i'm planning to do for fedora 7 | 10:02 |
| mornfall | it'd be probably useful to share this one | 10:03 |
| Riddell | mornfall: sure | 10:03 |
| mornfall | i'm also wondering how much sense it makes to have the profiles in kdm/gdm login screen | 10:04 |
| mornfall | so the distro-default is selected by default | 10:04 |
| mornfall | but to make die-hard kders happy, have a upstream-default profile as an option there | 10:05 |
| mornfall | an* | 10:05 |
| mornfall | we had that implemented few years back for kalyxo, it was just a haaack :] | 10:06 |
| mornfall | Riddell: do you include the menu-spec xml files in kubuntu-default-settings? | 10:09 |
| === mornfall notes that kde packages takes awful long to compile... | ||
| mornfall | take* | 10:09 |
| Riddell | mornfall: you mean /etc/xdg/menus/ ? | 10:09 |
| mornfall | yes | 10:09 |
| Riddell | that's in kdelibs | 10:09 |
| mornfall | yes, but do you customize that? | 10:10 |
| Riddell | mornfall: actually we mess it up in kubuntu by moving it to /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu to not clash with the gnome file | 10:10 |
| mornfall | err | 10:10 |
| Riddell | it's customised slightly from KDE otherwise | 10:10 |
| mornfall | okey | 10:10 |
| mornfall | when i have time i'll try to find out if there is a nice way to include that with profile | 10:11 |
| Riddell | mornfall: how does fedora do the menu stuff so that both kde and gnome use /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu ? | 10:11 |
| mornfall | Riddell: it just uses teh evil gnome one | 10:12 |
| mornfall | i believe | 10:12 |
| mornfall | which is one of the major annoyances with fedora... | 10:12 |
| mornfall | hmm, it ships /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu | 10:12 |
| Riddell | yeah, which is what I don't want to do | 10:12 |
| mornfall | i just haven't checked lately if it is used | 10:13 |
| Riddell | really? I started a trend | 10:13 |
| mornfall | i should boot into fedora kde someday :] | 10:13 |
| Riddell | but doing that goes against the standard and messes up stuff like menu editors unless you patch them | 10:13 |
| mornfall | it also ships /etc/xdg.d/kde/menus/applications.menu | 10:13 |
| === mornfall puts on kde/fc7 todo: fix the xdg mess | ||
| mornfall | 3.2GHz P4 is too slow for kde packaging :\ | 10:15 |
| Hobbsee | that was lucky, that i got away without my intro...sheesh... | 10:15 |
| Riddell | :) | 10:16 |
| Riddell | well done Hobbsee | 10:16 |
| Riddell | now you can upload all of imbrandon's gamin rebuilds :) | 10:16 |
| imbrandon | congrats again Hobbsee ;) | 10:16 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: hehe | 10:16 |
| mornfall | errrr | 10:16 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 10:16 |
| mornfall | what are you doing with gamin? :) | 10:16 |
| Riddell | mornfall: removing it from all the kde packages | 10:16 |
| === mornfall dropped libfam from kde in fc6 completely | ||
| mornfall | ah okey | 10:16 |
| imbrandon | not using it anymore | 10:16 |
| mornfall | --enable-inotify is it | 10:17 |
| Riddell | which means everything needs a rebuild so it picks up the new gamin free shlibs | 10:17 |
| Riddell | mornfall: yep | 10:17 |
| Tonio_ | yeah Hobbsee !!! | 10:17 |
| mornfall | hmm, how did gamin get into shlibs? O_o | 10:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: so just a rebuild, or remove them from the deps as well? | 10:17 |
| mornfall | that sounds somewhat un-nice | 10:17 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: just a rebuild will automatically remove it (it was brought in by shlibs from kdelibs but that doesn't have it any more) | 10:18 |
| mornfall | well, i'm currently fighting with g++ (GCC) 4.1.1 20060711 (Red Hat 4.1.1-8) | 10:18 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: ah...right...okay then. | 10:18 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, i got a bunch of diffs ( and a few ftbs logs ) on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | 10:19 |
| imbrandon | ;P | 10:19 |
| mornfall | ah btw, adept 2.1.1 landed in debian | 10:20 |
| mornfall | so when its time, you can sync from there | 10:20 |
| imbrandon | nice mornfall ;P | 10:20 |
| mornfall | also, adept will land in arklinux in some time, hopefully :) if things work out nicely, as a prerelease with next arklinux | 10:21 |
| mornfall | unification++ | 10:22 |
| Riddell | rocking | 10:22 |
| mornfall | and it also means that bero is helping out with it, which is great | 10:22 |
| Riddell | what does arklinux use at the moment? | 10:22 |
| mornfall | kynaptic | 10:22 |
| Riddell | so due for an upgrade then :) | 10:23 |
| mornfall | yeah, but they use rpm, so adept wasn't an option until recently | 10:23 |
| Riddell | yes | 10:24 |
| mornfall | for fedora 7, i'll probably shove adept into fedora extras as well | 10:24 |
| mornfall | that could actually mean that majority of distributions get the same package manager on kde :] | 10:24 |
| mornfall | +main | 10:25 |
| mornfall | suse is not going to happen i guess | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | sheesh, did i get that really easily or what? | 10:26 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: what did you get? :) | 10:26 |
| mornfall | chocolate? cookies? sweets? | 10:26 |
| mornfall | wanna share? :) | 10:27 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: upload rights? | 10:27 |
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| mornfall | ah | 10:27 |
| Riddell | suse will probably stick with their own messy yast code forever | 10:27 |
| mornfall | that's likely | 10:27 |
| mornfall | i'm not sure what is going to happen to suse/novell | 10:27 |
| Riddell | I heard that was implemented by a student years ago and nobody has wanted to touch it since | 10:27 |
| Hobbsee | haha. why am i not surprised? | 10:28 |
| mornfall | ahw :) | 10:28 |
| imbrandon | hahah | 10:28 |
| mornfall | okey, it should be probably noted that adept was written by a student too :) | 10:28 |
| imbrandon | mornfall, but its updated ;) | 10:29 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 10:29 |
| Riddell | mornfall: what is apt-index-watcher? | 10:30 |
| Riddell | and why is it running? | 10:30 |
| mornfall | evil workaround for missing apt post-update hook | 10:31 |
| mornfall | that should be fixed in edgy timeline i hope... mvo did some work on the post-update thingy | 10:31 |
| mornfall | \o/ smoke links again | 10:32 |
| Riddell | it seems to be spamming my /var/log/syslog a lot, first with | 10:32 |
| Riddell | Jul 18 20:20:49 ubuntu apt-index-watcher[24553] : SystemException: No such file or directory creating temporary file /v | 10:32 |
| Riddell | ar/lib/debtags/vocabulary.idx.U0ZpOZ | 10:32 |
| Riddell | and now that I've made that directory with Jul 18 20:31:55 ubuntu apt-index-watcher[24888] : ConsistencyCheckException: Unable to find any vocabulary data | 10:32 |
| mornfall | :'( | 10:33 |
| mornfall | it should probably depend on debtags | 10:33 |
| mornfall | enrico is out of reach | 10:33 |
| mornfall | installing debtags could fix that | 10:34 |
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| === Tonio_ hopes Riddell is still there ;) my turn on ubuntu-meeting | ||
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| Tonio_ | argh | 10:40 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: you didn't miss anything | 10:40 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: heh. dont you get what happened to me yesterday | 10:40 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: when do you think i should go for core? | 10:40 |
| imbrandon | no gst | 10:42 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: I think they'd excpect you to wait a month or two | 10:43 |
| RichJ | hiya gusy | 10:43 |
| RichJ | runnin' edgy on the lappy...and it doesn't run hot on this lappy like dapper | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah, okay, fair enough. i'll probably wait till it gets to the poitn of "this is stupid, i need to stop distracting others from their work so much" | 10:44 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: -core requires well thought-out plans. You'll want to get that into /good/ shape before applying. | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: yeah, good point. i'll just bug you main people for a while, i think. | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: and an intro. sheesh :P | 10:44 |
| crimsun | the intro's not important, just the plan :-) | 10:45 |
| crimsun | not that I foresee you having problems getting -core-dev admittance | 10:45 |
| Hobbsee | true | 10:46 |
| RichJ | Hobbsee: did you do your interview already? | 10:46 |
| === Riddell bops RichJ for disturbing the meeting at this crutial time | ||
| RichJ | lol...sorry ;) | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | RichJ: yes. i got it. | 10:46 |
| RichJ | congrats!!! | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, wth was you thinking | 10:46 |
| RichJ | i had no clue it was going on | 10:46 |
| RichJ | easy now | 10:46 |
| RichJ | im not on my main system | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | kontact , heh good kde plug ;) | 10:50 |
| crimsun | grats Tonio_ | 10:50 |
| imbrandon | congrats Tonio_ | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | yeah !!! | 10:50 |
| RichJ | congrats Tonio_ | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks for you help :) | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | I'm not a great speaker, so that helped a lot ! | 10:51 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: neither, dont worry. they dont seem to bite. | 10:51 |
| === Hobbsee now has another person to bug. excellent. | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: plz do :) | 10:52 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: please upload all this stuff for me, kthnksbye! | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I'm ending my job on july 27, and I'll have lots of free time to work on kubuntu starting august | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | which isn't possible currently, infortunately | 10:52 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: yay. yeah, i get that too :( | 10:53 |
| Hobbsee | full time uni, work, and kubuntu keeps me pretty busy :P | 10:53 |
| Hobbsee | it's good though | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: my job currently takes me from 8 am to 8 pm, sometimes 9 pm | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | and most of the time I'm simply too tired for kubuntu | 10:54 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: ouch. yeah | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | but that'll change in 10 days so that's cool | 10:55 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: but France has a 35 hour working week, that would mean you'd only need to work for 2.5 days a week | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: france has great difference between theory and true life ;) | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: : simply consider I have a 30 pages documentation to write for tomorrow 9am, and I simply didn't have time to write it... | 10:56 |
| uniq | tonio_: i'm moving house, so no time for ipodslave 0.8pre right now. If you've got the time, feel free to package it. | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | uniq: thanks for the info, will do | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, or if you have no time i could do it ( and test as i use my ipod non stop ) | 11:01 |
| imbrandon | heh infact thats one i just rebuilt for the libgamin0 lol | 11:01 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon I'm on it right now, and then I'm starting my doc..... | 11:02 |
| imbrandon | kk | 11:02 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, if your gonna upload i'll take it of my que to upload as all i did was rebuild the old and it wont be needed if your uploading a new version | 11:03 |
| kwwii | http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas sums up the smaller pieces of the theme ideas (the wallpaper ideas and kdm, are elsewhere) | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon depends if it builds correctly :) | 11:03 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, okie ;) | 11:03 |
| imbrandon | lemme know then ;P | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon sure | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon hummmmmmmmmmm | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | looks like it depends a new lib... libqtpod | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | we need to get this one in before we can package ipodslave | 11:06 |
| Riddell | isn't that part of ipodslave? | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it is now splitted in two tarballs | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | k i'll upload ( err have Hobbsee do it ) the rebuild then we can look at the new version | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | and the second one requires the first | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | aye, but i'm not uploading anything this ealry in the morning. | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, hehe yea no worries tonight idf fine ;) | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon will you package the lib (too long for me today) ? | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | if you do, plz ping me for revu | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, sure | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | ok will do | 11:08 |
| === Tonio_ wishes his last of 10 docs would be written... | ||
| imbrandon | both or just the lib ? | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | I hate oleaving a job, since they all want that you write documentations on everything.... | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon well if you can you both, that'd be nice | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | heh | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, yea no probs just wanted to be clear | 11:09 |
| === imbrandon go's off to have a look | ||
| Tonio_ | but before revuing the app, we need to get the lib in to avoid ftbfs | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | right | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon kde-apps page has everything you need | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | ok | 11:09 |
| === Tonio_ documenting | ||
| Tonio_ | latest one............................................................... | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | man its 38C outside atm , jez | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: nice! i'll swap places :) | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | heh | 11:20 |
| === Hobbsee likes the warmth. | ||
| imbrandon | supose to be hotter tomarrow | 11:20 |
| imbrandon | 38 is tooo hot though, i like warm too just not bakin | 11:20 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: WOW!!! | 11:24 |
| === Hobbsee wants to see *that* in edgy. | ||
| Hobbsee | :D | 11:26 |
| kwwii | Hobbsee: thanks :-) | 11:26 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: they're great! love the logo and usplash particularly! | 11:26 |
| kwwii | wait and see what comes out of this whole thing before you say that :p | 11:27 |
| kwwii | planning is a totally different world then realization | 11:27 |
| kwwii | but I must say that until now, I am pretty much free to do what I want | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: the artworks' not final yet - so you may as well get it in :P | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: and why not? you do a great job | 11:28 |
| kwwii | very few other artists are interested in kubuntu, and kde in general, those that are interested work with oxygen | 11:28 |
| kwwii | (we have two new guys lately) | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee | nice ;) | 11:29 |
| Hobbsee | true | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | hey kwwii ! | 11:29 |
| kwwii | howdy Mr. Tonio_ | 11:31 |
| kwwii | Mr. Mercante | 11:31 |
| kwwii | ? is that right ? | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | Mercatante ;) | 11:31 |
| kwwii | yeah, even more complex than you think, typical french | 11:31 |
| kwwii | :p | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | was better than Riddell that generally spells Mercantine :) | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | it is italian | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | not french | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:32 |
| kwwii | they are assholes too | 11:32 |
| kwwii | just kidding | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: you cannot imagin :) | 11:32 |
| RichJ | what is up with the current source.list in the Edgy (Pre) Knot 1? | 11:37 |
| RichJ | sources.list as well | 11:37 |
| Riddell | RichJ: which installer? | 11:38 |
| RichJ | alternate | 11:38 |
| RichJ | i apologize as well for the @sched during the meeting...i had lost track of time..and im not on my main system..im in wifi land somewhere | 11:39 |
| Hobbsee | RichJ: it's okay, wasnt that much of a problem | 11:39 |
| Hobbsee | usually good to check the /topic first though :P | 11:40 |
| Riddell | RichJ: dunno, I saw it too, file a bug and Kamion should get to it | 11:40 |
| RichJ | ok | 11:40 |
| Riddell | RichJ: I'm sure Tonio_ will forgive you :) | 11:40 |
| Riddell | ...one day | 11:40 |
| RichJ | ya, it seems there is just edgy-security and cd-rom and thats it | 11:40 |
| RichJ | hehe | 11:40 |
| === RichJ apologizes to Tonio_ !!! | ||
| Hobbsee | Riddell: well, he did get his core-dev, so he should be fairly happy | 11:40 |
| === RichJ offers Tonio_ ponies!!! | ||
| RichJ | ponies fix everything | 11:41 |
| RichJ | Riddell: i will say, edgy is performing better on this lappy then dapper does | 11:41 |
| RichJ | also, it doesn't run hot, where as with dapper, the fan doesn't turn on OOTB | 11:41 |
| Hobbsee | RichJ: yeah, i noticed that, i think... | 11:42 |
| RichJ | i can hear my fan throttle on/off/and speed changes | 11:42 |
| RichJ | i don't even remember that when this had windows on it ;) | 11:42 |
| === Hobbsee has a very sick sounding fan. | ||
| Hobbsee | :P | 11:42 |
| RichJ | mine is sick too Hobbsee | 11:42 |
| RichJ | this laptop is old | 11:42 |
| === Hobbsee hasnt decided what to do when this laptop eventually dies. | ||
| RichJ | i will break down one of these days and get a new one | 11:43 |
| imbrandon_ | get an macbook ;P | 11:43 |
| RichJ | that is probably what i will do | 11:43 |
| RichJ | i will wait until around xmas, as that is when mac does their huge sales | 11:43 |
| Hobbsee | that's an idea...maybe. | 11:43 |
| RichJ | OMG...I CAN GET MACBOOK via the uni at a discount | 11:43 |
| === Hobbsee might get a desktop, and ssh in, maybe... | ||
| RichJ | thx imbrandon ;) | 11:43 |
| imbrandon_ | hehe | 11:44 |
| RichJ | $1500 | 11:44 |
| === Hobbsee will likely work on a decent wireless card first. | ||
| RichJ | it is a $200 or $300 discount..can't remember | 11:44 |
| imbrandon_ | Hobbsee, Airport and Airport Extreems work great in linux ;) | 11:44 |
| RichJ | PrismII, Orinoco, Athero's...those are the top 3 i believe | 11:45 |
| RichJ | ya imbrandon_ but there is no rfmon support, or did you figure that out? | 11:45 |
| imbrandon_ | AE is PrismII and Airport is Orinoco | 11:45 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon_: yeah, but what's available here is a good question. | 11:45 |
| imbrandon_ | RichJ, yea there is you just cant use the stock orinoco drivers if you wanna crack wep ;) | 11:46 |
| RichJ | can you use kismet with it? | 11:46 |
| RichJ | airsnort and such will run on almost anything i believe | 11:46 |
| imbrandon_ | with a patch to the orinoco driver yea | 11:46 |
| RichJ | sweet | 11:46 |
| RichJ | did you do my orinoco patch howto on the wiki ;) | 11:47 |
| imbrandon_ | no | 11:47 |
| RichJ | hehe | 11:47 |
| imbrandon_ | i uesd a gentto patch | 11:47 |
| imbrandon_ | gentoo | 11:47 |
| === imbrandon_ ducks * | ||
| RichJ | that'll work i guess | 11:47 |
| RichJ | lol | 11:47 |
| RichJ | heh, i have a "Human" theme on my Kubuntu Edgy lappy | 11:47 |
| === RichJ has kind of fallen for the 'brown' | ||
| imbrandon_ | i should really look at putting that upstream or atleaste in ubuntu | 11:48 |
| RichJ | how about kio-sysinfo ;) | 11:48 |
| imbrandon_ | i'll get to that someday , after libqtpod and firefox | 11:48 |
| imbrandon_ | ok leve me be so's i can work ;P | 11:49 |
| === Hobbsee cracks her whip | ||
| Hobbsee | get working, imbrandon! | 11:49 |
| imbrandon_ | Hobbsee, will you ping me when you eventualy upload those diffs so i can mark them done on the wiki ( or you can heh ) | 11:49 |
| imbrandon_ | LOL | 11:49 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon_: sure. | 11:49 |
| imbrandon_ | kk | 11:49 |
| === Hobbsee will test build them first, she expects | ||
| === Hobbsee is going out today. | ||
| imbrandon_ | kk the ones that ftbs i attached a log to | 11:50 |
| imbrandon_ | Hobbsee, if you want they are on voyager in /home/brandon/files/edgy/rebuild/* ( so you dont have to do much but run a rebuild ) | 11:51 |
| imbrandon_ | or however you wanna do it | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon_: right, yeah. | 11:52 |
| imbrandon_ | but diff's linked on the wiki | 11:52 |
| imbrandon_ | too | 11:52 |
| Hobbsee | yep, right | 11:53 |
| RichJ | hey, should bugs be filed against the daily-build knot's? | 11:56 |
| RichJ | or should i just create a list as i go and submit them to ya'll ;) | 11:57 |
| Riddell | RichJ: what's the problem? | 11:57 |
| RichJ | no problem..but as i play around with edgy, im sure im going to run into some things especially on the lappy... | 11:57 |
| RichJ | sources.list was actually the only issue so far | 11:58 |
| abattoir | Riddell: free? | 11:58 |
| Riddell | abattoir: syre | 11:58 |
| Riddell | sure | 11:58 |
| Riddell | RichJ: file away | 11:58 |
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| abattoir | Riddell: just an update... have almost caught up w/ Kamion | 11:58 |
| RichJ | roger that Riddell... | 11:59 |
| RichJ | i will assign them all to Hobbsee then ;) | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | RichJ: noooo! | 11:59 |
| RichJ | hahah | 11:59 |
| Riddell | abattoir: ooh, that's good to hear | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | i've been fixing multimedia apps! | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | well, one. | 11:59 |
| Riddell | abattoir: going to make your archive public? | 11:59 |
| abattoir | but he is committing vigorously :P . as I said earlier, just an update :) | 11:59 |
| abattoir | Riddell: sure, but is it ok if i have the directory structure modified for now? | 12:00 |
| abattoir | Riddell: I have all the files in a single directory ad test the prog. w/ the help of a wrapper... | 12:00 |
| abattoir | *and | 12:00 |
| abattoir | Riddell: i'll modify all the 'imports' when i finish... | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: did you just upload kaffeine? | 12:01 |
| abattoir | if that's ok, i'll upload | 12:01 |
| Riddell | abattoir: should be fine | 12:01 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I wasn't coredev 3 hours ago, but raphink did yes | 12:01 |
| abattoir | Riddell: ok, can I do that tomorrow? :P | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: arent we in main freeze, atm, due to knot 1? | 12:01 |
| raphink | hehe :) | 12:02 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: hum.... argh, that's possible | 12:02 |
| abattoir | Riddell: i need to go see if my superkaramba themes work in edgy now that the gamin stuff has gone ;) | 12:02 |
| raphink | that was my last upload for Tonio_ :) | 12:02 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: can you confirm you uploaded it ? | 12:02 |
| raphink | well no | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: hehe! | 12:02 |
| raphink | actually | 12:02 |
| raphink | gwenview was my last upload for TOnio_ | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: well, i'm told it's in the archive | 12:02 |
| raphink | a minute before I advised him to go for core-dev tonight | 12:02 |
| raphink | ;) | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | [08:02] *** The channel topic is "Ubuntu Development (not support, even with edgy) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Knot-1 freeze in effect - uploads to main frozen, ask Mithrandir for exceptions". | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: raphink ^ | 12:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what are the consequences if packages have been uploaded today ? | 12:02 |
| raphink | Hobbsee: ah :( didn't know that | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | that's why i was waiting on kopete and amarok | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: :( | 12:03 |
| raphink | why is main frozen today? | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: mithandir wont be happy | 12:03 |
| raphink | haha | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: it's been frozen for a few days - due to knot 1 cd release | 12:03 |
| raphink | hmm ok | 12:04 |
| raphink | well this upload of kaffeine is a bugfix imo | 12:04 |
| raphink | right Tonio_? | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: let's see what happens | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: well, it is, yeah, so no UVF report filed | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: yes, previous package simply didn't work (my fault, I didn't upload the good one to revu) | 12:04 |
| raphink | can't do any harm to upload a bugfix if the issue is to prepare a knot cd | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: on that basis, want to do amarok as well? /me ducks | 12:05 |
| raphink | haha | 12:05 |
| raphink | Hobbsee: ask Tonio_ he'll be happy to sponsor I'm sure :) | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: haha ! | 12:05 |
| raphink | :) | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | I don't want to be fired after my first main upload :) | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | sorry but forget me for this :) | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | hahaha | 12:06 |
| === Tonio_ prepares a new kdebase upload | ||
| raphink | haha | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: is settings, printers, included in kdebase? | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: want to fix that bug while your'e at it? | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: are there issues with kdeprint still ? | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | I didn't test edgy for a few days now | 12:07 |
| Tonio_ | since I'm heavilly required at work, I need a stable system | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: no idea, i havent tried to print anything. settings, printers, is just in the worng menu - all on it's own | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, fair enough | 12:07 |
| === Tonio_ can't wait to finish the work on july 27... | ||
| Tonio_ | 6 month of full time availability for kubuntu after this :) | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | nice :) | 12:08 |
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