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coachJa setup guide12:08
fiyawerxdidn't there used to be one? like ubuntuguide or something?12:09
fiyawerxi think that covers gnome and kde at this point12:09
hounganwhy do you recommend synaptic instead of adept?12:09
coachJnever seen it12:09
fiyawerxhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper12:09
coachJlooking12:09
fiyawerxUnofficial Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) Starter Guide12:09
Ayabaraanyone using utorrent under wine?12:09
VieLguS-KuTaSis there a way to install and uninstall K apps with KDE?12:10
fiyawerxalso you can look into automatix/easyubuntu12:10
gatekeepercrimsun: heard of libdvdcss2 but not libdvdread3 interesting :-)12:10
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LuisMendesI've enabled some effects like shadows and translucency.. now I get an error when Kubuntu boots. It says "You must use XOrg  6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.Additionally, you need to add a new section to your X config file12:13
LuisMendeshow can I disable the effects?12:13
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houngangatekeeper: why do you use synaptic instead of adept?12:13
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gatekeeperhoungan: I just prefer it, but also in breezy I had adept go into an infinite loop when doing a multi install12:19
gatekeeperhoungan: off to bed, good luck with your installation12:19
houngangatekeeper: ok thanks a lot12:19
gatekeeperhoungan: np :-)12:20
Ayabaragatekeeper: no bad blocks on any of my partitions12:21
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hounganAyabara: gatekeeper has quit :(12:23
Ayabarahoungan: ok. does that mean I have to think for myself?? ;-)12:23
hounganAyabara: Well yeah, if apt-get can't guess what you need :D12:24
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houngancu12:24
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zeuthName of french chan ubuntu plz ?12:25
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hounganzeuth: Ubuntu-fr12:27
zeuthThx12:27
houngannp12:27
hounganje suis le baguette12:27
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acaldanybody have success with Java in Konqueror?12:28
acaldi've googled and searched and nothing seems to fix it12:29
acaldjust a consistent "loading applet"12:29
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Hawkwindacald: Have you looked on the wiki ?  There is explanation how to fix it in konqueror at the bottom of the page12:31
Hawkwind!java12:31
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:31
acaldi'll look again12:32
Hawkwindacald: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-c0ade16437f7da9136027572a9481cd65757bd4112:33
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sebsebseba12:35
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sebsebsebCan I delete everything Gnome/Kubuntu all the program the lot except my Home folder.  and then re install Dapper.  and have it use the old Home folder?12:42
Kyralonly if /home is mounted on a seperate partition12:43
sebsebsebthat's what I thought12:43
Kyral(Hell if /home is mounted on its own partition you can use it across distros :D)12:43
sebsebsebindeed12:43
sebsebsebeven in distros that are in a virtual machine?12:43
KyralThis /home on my machine has been used across SuSE, Gentoo, Ubuntu, and now Arch12:43
Kyraleh thats sketchy12:43
Kyralhaving two OS's actively going Read-Write on the same partition is just ASKING for something bad to happen12:44
sebsebsebI guess that's true12:44
acaldubotu and hawkwind:  Thanks for the pointers  (I'm fetching the updates for multiverse right now).12:45
ubotuI know nothing about and hawkwind:  Thanks for the pointers  (I'm fetching the updates for multiverse right now). - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:45
Kyrallol Ubotu12:45
sebsebsebUbotu12:45
sebsebsebUbotu!12:45
RawSewageKTorrent problem.  Help Please.   I resized bottom panel (info widget) and when I lowered it to far, it got stuck minimized.  I cant see the bottom widget anymore12:45
sebsebsebubotu12:45
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage12:45
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acaldPardon my newbieness12:46
sebsebsebubotu people that think I am a person!12:46
RawSewageCan someone help me12:46
ubotuI know nothing about people that think I am a person! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:46
RawSewagenm12:46
RawSewageI fixed it12:46
sebsebsebKyral:  Why have differnet distros of Linux?  I used Fedora Core before now Ubuntu.12:46
Hawkwindacald: No problem.  Glad to help :)12:47
sebsebsebI mean in virtual machines sure I could understand that12:47
sebsebseb,but on partitions on hard disk why?12:47
sebsebseba multi boot  or dual boot with differnet Linux distros what's the point?12:47
HawkwindSome people like to have more than one distro to play with.  Nothing wrong with it12:48
acaldI guess I took for granted that the Java libraries were there since Konqueror showed it as availble.12:48
sebsebsebexcept they are all pretty much the same I think?12:48
Hawkwindsebsebseb: Ummm no12:48
sebsebsebsame programs.  Gnome KDE Firefox Open Office Gaim etc etc12:49
Hawkwindsebsebseb: Most all distros all different.  Atleast in how they look and how they do things.  As well as hardware detection and many other things12:49
sebsebsebwell yes that's true12:49
Hawkwindsebsebseb: So.  Each distro makes their stuff differently12:49
sebsebseb,but generally then they are similar12:49
HawkwindNo, not even generally12:50
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HawkwindAll distros are different.  Hence the reason there are so many12:50
acaldany good ideas on management packages for a small business environment12:50
sebsebsebI been thinking about trying out Suse in virtual machine :)12:50
sebsebsebread good things12:50
HawkwindMight want to read again, or read a more true article12:50
sebsebseband well Genetoo as well I guess.  apparnatlly that one is more about.  choiceing  exactly what people want.  the kernel version the lot12:50
KyralEach Distro represents someone's idea of The Perfect Distro12:50
KyralOf which is a purely objective and personal thing12:51
HawkwindKyral: Good choice of words12:51
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sebsebsebHawkind:  your saying Suse is bad?12:52
sebsebsebHawkind: even12:52
sebsebsebah same mistake12:52
sebsebsebHawkwind:  I mean12:52
LuisMendeshow can I start the composite manager? it crashed on startup and I need to disable a few options12:52
Hawkwindsebsebseb: I've never tried it.  Best thing to do is try it yourself and see what you think of it.  You might like it, or you might hate it12:53
sebsebsebyeah just like I hate KDE or dislike,  as in the actsaul GUI,  but I am in here,  because of idiots booting me about a week ago from the Ubuntu channel,  because of a stupid arguement.  and still banned.12:54
sebsebsebI meant KDE as in the GUI12:54
sebsebsebjust hte way it is.  I prefer Gnome when it comes to that stuff12:54
sebsebseb,but KDE has rather good apps.  K3B so on12:54
sebsebsebsaying this in the KDE Ubuntu fan boys channel might stir something up :D12:54
sebsebsebFedora Core 2 and 4 I used and liked it a lot,  but took ages to install on this PC.  and then there was Ubuntu and I wanted to try that12:56
sebsebseband so been using that yeah :)12:56
sebsebseband also since it was only one CD.  unlike FC4.  so just half an hour or so to install12:56
sebsebsebwhat happens if I try and delete everything when Home is not in it's own partition?12:56
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Zaireanyone in here know how to install BattleField 2 with cedega cause my cedega said you have to have admin rights or something like that01:04
HawkwindZaire: Might ask in #Cedega or #WineHQ as those guys are the experts01:06
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Philip5Zaire: search in the transgaming forums01:11
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YusAnyone else than me having problems with katapult after last update?01:12
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ranunculoidHo do I install from a downloaded .deb file?01:25
Hawkwindranunculoid: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb01:25
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ranunculoideamon@eamon-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i /home/eamon/ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb01:27
ranunculoid(Reading database ... 74826 files and directories currently installed.)01:27
ranunculoidPreparing to replace ktorrent 1.2-0ubuntu5 (using .../ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb) ...01:27
ranunculoidUnpacking replacement ktorrent ...01:27
ranunculoiddpkg: error processing /home/eamon/ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb (--install):01:27
ranunculoid trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data01:27
ranunculoidErrors were encountered while processing:01:27
ranunculoid /home/eamon/ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb01:27
ranunculoideamon@eamon-desktop:~$01:27
ranunculoidThat didn't work very well...01:27
h3sp4wnHow was that deb made ?01:28
ranunculoidI downloaded it from ktorrent.org01:28
BKajI need to configure x-cd-roast as super user before I can use it ...what's the comand . pls ?01:28
ranunculoidI tried to install it before when I used MEPIS and I got the exact same error01:28
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BKajasureus works well and you can get it in synaptic01:29
ranunculoidIt uses too much ram01:29
BKajbummer01:29
BKajlow on mem ?01:30
ranunculoidI'm running it now and it's using 462 mb of memory01:30
ranunculoid512mg01:30
BKajic01:30
ranunculoid512mb01:30
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BKajok01:30
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BKajjava does that01:31
ranunculoiduh-huh01:31
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OODranunculoid: i found a solution01:32
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aevaughnHello01:33
BKajcan some tell me the cmd for configuring an installed prog as super user ?01:33
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SperMiteHow can i remove apache2 and all the config files that came with it?01:34
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ranunculoidOOD: "-force-overwrite"?01:35
ranunculoidIt didn't work01:35
ranunculoidWhat's your solution?01:35
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ranunculoidI'll paste the output for the craic01:36
ranunculoideamon@eamon-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i -force-overwrite /home/eamon/ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb01:37
ranunculoidPassword:01:37
ranunculoiddpkg: conflicting actions --field and --install01:37
ranunculoidType dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;01:37
ranunculoidUse `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;01:37
sebsebsebSperMite:  I could tell you how with Syamptic the Gnome file manager01:37
ranunculoidType dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;01:37
ranunculoidType dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;01:37
ranunculoidType dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;01:37
ranunculoidType dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .01:37
ranunculoidOptions marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !01:37
ranunculoideamon@eamon-desktop:~$01:37
ranunculoidapt-get remove apache01:37
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sysrplhi, how do i force my wireless adpater to release its ip address and renew it?01:39
OODranunculoid: nevermind, it won't work01:42
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ranunculoidOOD: :(01:43
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Zaireyay BF2 is installing lol01:45
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sysrplhi, how do i force my wireless adpater to release its ip address and renew it?01:48
ranunculoidOOD: I got it to work :-D "--force-overwrite" (an extra '-') was what was needed. ^_-01:49
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ranunculoidOOD: I got it to work :-D "--force-overwrite" (an extra '-') was what was needed. ^_^01:51
acald_hawkwind: I've followed all of the instructions and no change for the java01:55
acald_any other ideas?01:55
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z00mcan anyone tell me how to disable SMTP in kubuntu ?02:03
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acald_hawkwind: it appears installing the SDK made the difference02:05
acald_go figure02:05
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Zaireto anyone who may be interested and didn't know this to install BattleField 2 with cedega you have to set the install mode to Windows XP mode02:06
sebsebsebZaire: Cadega02:06
sebsebsebyou buy it?02:07
Zaireyeps I gots it lol02:07
sebsebsebyou brought?02:07
sebsebsebor download or?02:07
sebsebsebI think it can be downloaded for free,  but then has to be set up02:07
Zairedoes it matter anyway I want battle field 2 lol02:07
sebsebsebI am interested in Cadega02:07
sebsebsebonly looked into it a little02:08
sebsebsebso I was wondering what you did02:08
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z00mbattle field 2 is a top game, why not dual boot and play games on windows XP its easyer!02:10
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sebsebsebz00m:  or have XP inside a virtual machine in Linux :d02:10
z00msebsebseb: dont this is will support GFX card that way, it will just be the vmware default settings02:11
z00mthink it will^02:11
sebsebsebI have heard it will work with non 3D games quite well02:11
z00mdoes anyone know how i can disable SMTP service on my box if im not using it02:11
z00msebsebseb: it might work but it will look like crap :P02:12
z00manyway, i gotta go! :P02:13
z00mlaterz02:13
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I_Died_Oncei cant find cedega in the adept repositories02:18
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sebsebsebprobably,  because it's commerical and all that02:18
sebsebseband not just any program02:19
I_Died_Once....nooooooooooooo02:19
I_Died_Oncewell that sucks02:20
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OODI_Died_Once: try wine02:22
I_Died_OnceI wonder if tehre is a crack for cedega02:24
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posthumannah died02:27
posthumanyou can download it at torrent sites though..which I Just did not mention02:28
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posthumanI pay a 5 dollar a month subscription for it.02:28
sebsebsebwhere did he go?02:28
I_Died_Onceso  you gotta pay to activate it'02:28
sebsebsebI don't see his name in the list of users02:28
I_Died_Once??02:28
sebsebsebno you can download it02:29
posthumanNo.  Once you pay once you can download it02:29
sebsebseband use use it I THINK02:29
posthumanbut to keep it updated you need to pay02:29
posthumanbut it works if you pay just once02:29
posthumanyou just cant get newer upgrades02:29
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sebsebsebor you don't pay at all and just download it I think02:29
I_Died_Oncewhisper the torrent link please02:29
sebsebsebor you just settle with playing games on a dual boot with Windows.  or have in a virtual machine in Linux :d02:29
posthumannot officially seb02:29
sebsebsebI Would if I could find your name in the list of people02:30
I_Died_OnceI_Died_Once02:30
sebsebsebit's not there02:30
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posthumanmessage me i_died02:30
sebsebsebok done02:32
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willcan someone help me set up my source list ?02:34
Lunar_Ravenhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:35
Lunar_Raventry that will02:35
GaiaX11will: What happened?02:35
Lunar_Ravenvery helpful02:35
Lunar_Ravenand ..02:35
Lunar_Raven!sources02:35
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:35
willGaiaX11: I'm brand new to linux02:36
Lunar_Raven!easysource02:36
willjust installed kubuntu02:36
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:36
willtrying to get mozilla installed02:36
GaiaX11will: sudo synaptic02:36
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GaiaX11will: search mozilla02:37
willGaiaX11: im using kubuntu02:37
Lunar_Ravenwill02:37
Lunar_Ravenfor kubuntu you use adept02:38
Lunar_Ravensudo adept :)02:38
Lunar_Ravenor choose it from the menu02:38
GaiaX11will: no problem02:38
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GaiaX11will: type in the konsole02:38
GaiaX11sudo synaptic02:38
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Lunar_Ravendoes kubuntu have synaptic?02:39
h3sp4wnLunar_Raven: If you install it02:39
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Lunar_Ravenwell, he probably hasn't02:39
Lunar_Ravendefault it would be adept02:39
h3sp4wnLunar_Raven: sudo apt-get install synaptic02:39
Lunar_Ravenyah :P02:39
Lunar_RavenI prefer adept02:39
Lunar_RavenI was just saying for the new guy02:39
h3sp4wnI prefer aptitude02:39
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GaiaX11I prefer apt-get02:40
Lunar_RavenI like smart02:40
Lunar_Ravenand adept02:40
Lunar_Ravenand aptitiude02:40
Lunar_Ravenlol02:40
GaiaX11But I think for him synaptic is a good start02:40
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h3sp4wnI don't see much need to use anything other than aptitude (apart from for source)02:41
h3sp4wnthe interactive aptitude is pretty good02:41
h3sp4wn(if you need menu's etc)02:41
GaiaX11He will get confused02:41
GaiaX11Let's just help him02:41
Lunar_RavenGUI is always good for a beginner :o02:41
Lunar_Ravenand I just like gui, heh02:41
GaiaX11Lunar_Raven: yeah!02:42
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GaiaX11will: So ...02:42
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GaiaX11will: sudo apt-get install mozilla-browser02:43
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CntryboyAnyone know why sudo chmod +x or chmod 775 /usr/lib/xscreensaver doesn't work? I"m trying to move glmatrix there02:56
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willsorry guys, got called away for a sec02:58
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willOk, I've downloaded a tar file for the latest firefox02:59
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willdo I still use adept02:59
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willat one point I extracted it, but that didn't seem to help03:00
Cntryboywow this channel sleeps more than anything03:00
Cntryboylol03:00
Lunar_Ravenyou can..if you want it 'globally installed.'  But if you just want to use the tar that's fine.  JUst extract that and run the firefox executable03:00
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Lunar_Ravenyou should be able to just click it03:00
Lunar_Raven'firefox'03:00
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willyah03:02
willI click it and ARK opens up03:02
elknof1hi everybody...  can someone give me a hand with a small issue of k3b??03:02
willfrom there I extracted it into a folder03:02
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willit wouldn't let me extract it into my applications folder03:03
willguessing thats because I;m not signed in as a super use03:03
willr03:03
willLunar_Raven: once I click on it and Ark opens up.  then what?03:04
Lunar_Ravenif you do it that way, you must extract it into your home directory some where03:05
elknof1hi everybody...  can someone give me a hand with a small issue of k3b??03:05
Lunar_Raventhen in that directory..find the 'firefox' file and open that03:05
willk03:05
willjust a sec03:05
willwill try03:05
Lunar_Raven:)03:05
OODelknof1: what is the problem?03:06
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willLunar_Raven: I'm running into permission issues03:06
willhow do I get admin rights in Ark03:07
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CheeseBurgerManwill: kdesu ark03:08
Lunar_Ravenyes what he said03:09
Lunar_Raven:)03:09
Lunar_Ravenlol03:09
willthanks03:09
Lunar_Ravenor you could do it the old fashioned way ..  from a console:  sudo tar -xvvf nameofarchive.tar.gz03:10
Lunar_Ravenbut either works03:10
willwill@Wills-laptop:~$ kdesu ark03:10
willX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16803:10
will  Major opcode:  14503:10
will  Minor opcode:  303:10
will  Resource id:  0x003:10
willFailed to open device03:11
willX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16803:11
will  Major opcode:  14503:11
will  Minor opcode:  303:11
will  Resource id:  0x003:11
willFailed to open device03:11
Lunar_Ravenah ignore that03:11
Lunar_Ravenstill should work03:11
Lunar_RavenI think03:11
Lunar_Ravenif it doesn't..just do the command I showed above03:11
OODthat always happens when you start a gui app from terminal03:11
Lunar_Ravenyeah03:11
Lunar_Raventhat's a xorg issue..but doesn't affect anything03:11
Lunar_RavenI got rid of that awhile ago03:12
willdidn't work03:13
Lunar_Raventhat's odd..what exactly happened?03:13
Lunar_Ravensudo tar -xvvf nameofarchive.tar.gz <---try that, it'll extract it to wherever the file is located.    Of course, replace nameofarchvie with the real filename03:14
willI'm probably missing a step03:14
willwhat I'm trying to do is...03:14
willextract the firefox tar file to  usr - share - applications03:14
willbut it won't give me permission to extract there or create a new folder in applications to extract to03:15
elknof1OOD, i already solve it..  it was about a mp3 decoder for k3b...  but is done... thanks anyway03:15
Lunar_Ravenif you want to do that all graphically, just ksedu konqueror03:15
Lunar_Raventry that03:15
Lunar_Raventhen you can do it all through the file manager03:15
CheeseBurgerManUh, 'sudo tar zxvfp firefox-version.tar.gz -C /usr/share/applications'?03:15
Lunar_Ravenexcuse me ... kdesu konqueror03:15
Lunar_Ravenyeah03:15
willwhat do you mean ksedu konqueror03:15
Lunar_Ravendo you know how to use konsoles and such?03:16
willsort of03:16
willI can get to it03:16
willused dos a little ten years ago03:16
Lunar_Ravenyou'd open konsole (from the menu)03:16
Lunar_Ravenand run:03:16
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CheeseBurgerManwill: If you can't get it to extract where you want it, extract it to you desktop (or somewhere), and the copy it to /usr/share/applications03:17
Lunar_Ravenkdesu konqueror   this  allows you to run konqueror with 'super rights'03:17
Lunar_Raventhen you can graphically copy things to where you want..despite the location03:17
CheeseBurgerManOr a shortcut 'kdesu konqueror /usr/share/applications' ;)03:17
willwell I got the same error03:19
CheeseBurgerManWhat error?03:19
willbaddevice....failed to open device...03:19
Lunar_RavenI don't understand? what error03:19
Lunar_Ravenkonqueror never came up?03:19
willwill@Wills-laptop:~$ kdesu konqueror03:19
willX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16803:19
will  Major opcode:  14503:19
will  Minor opcode:  303:19
will  Resource id:  0x003:19
willFailed to open device03:19
willX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16803:19
will  Major opcode:  14503:19
will  Minor opcode:  303:19
will  Resource id:  0x003:19
willFailed to open device03:19
OODthat happens, ignore that03:20
OODand use pastebin from now on03:20
Lunar_Ravenit still should pop up03:20
OOD!pastebin03:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:20
Lunar_Ravenit does, correct?03:20
willnothing popped up03:20
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willI'm going to save this convo and work on it later.  got to run,  Thanks for all the help.  I'll get it down soon enough03:21
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CheeseBurgerManOK, bye.03:22
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GrundeeI am having trouble with a process called gam_server. It eats up all of my CPU when my screensaver is on, and it still uses a lot when it is off. I tried killall gam_server, but it comes back. I read online that this program does this sometimes, what can I do to fix it?03:22
TheHighChildGrundee: Amarok uses this. I've heard about it quite a bit from people03:23
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GrundeeYes, I am using Amarok; what can be done about this?03:24
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TheHighChildGrundee: Off hand, nothing I know but I'll take a look, brb in a few03:24
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MehAdult!java03:28
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:28
TheHighChildGrundee: Are you running x86_64?03:28
thompawell i solved one problem by removing windows. my sony disks dont work on vaio so windows is impossible to install anyway03:28
thompastupid morons at sony03:29
thompai used transgaming for the one game in ubuntu and it seems to work so far03:29
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thompasony shipped me xp pro and home edition replacements 4 times now and none work03:30
TheHighChildthompa: Do they boot and just not install or do they not boot at all?03:31
thompaits a vaio notebook with nvidia, the sound jack broke a while back and they replaced the whole mobo03:31
thompai think thats the problem03:31
DarkAuditI've got sonypi in /etc/modules on my VAIO notebook, but when I check system settings for notebooks, Kubuntu claims it can't find the module03:31
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thompait says machine is wrong or something, and the drivers are impossible to install if you use a generic xp disk03:32
l091548evening all03:32
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thompayou have to boot with linux live actually to get it working in windows,03:33
thompaDarkAudit: it doesnt work03:33
thompaDarkAudit: what model you have?03:33
beemeranyone good at upgrading/changing kernels and keeping the nvidia drivers working?  It keeps hanging at boot with a "can't find driver nvidia" whenever I try03:34
TheHighChildGrundee: Any work on your arch?03:34
thompai use keybindings and can control sound03:34
DarkAuditthompa: argh! now I have to go look :p :)03:34
thompawell are you sure its a vaio notebook firstly03:34
DarkAuditthompa: model PCG-7D2L03:35
thompaeuro model03:36
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thompawhats the FS..?  model03:36
DarkAuditbrb again :)03:36
thompa1.73G isit that one?03:37
thompa512M03:37
thompanevermind i found it03:37
thompamines a 660w, runs at 100c03:37
thompa95c currently03:38
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thompaDarkAudit: its same casing as mine exactly03:38
thompai removed windows completely from it the nvidia is 128R 1Gram03:39
DarkAuditthompa: FS74003:40
thompaDarkAudit: does it have nvidia?03:40
DarkAuditi91503:41
thompaDarkAudit: you have to install sonypyi first03:41
thompathen your in good shape,03:41
thompamines an overheater but faster03:41
thompathe i915 will do some 3d stuff actuallly in linux03:42
DarkAuditthompa: isn't the sonypi module already part of the stock kernel?03:44
thompaacpi is what works now03:44
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thompabattery status is wrong no matter what you do03:44
thompasonypi is part of kernel03:45
thompaDarkAudit: youonly need to fix brightness control03:46
DarkAuditso the module should load if it's in /etc/modules03:46
thompathe vaio-stat source is in synaptics, thats what it says03:46
DarkAuditthompa: ok... thx :)03:47
thompafor me i had to confiugre shortcuts for volume its very simple03:47
thompahow do you turn up volume without the mouse?03:47
beemerlittle knob on the speaker03:47
thompafor brightness install spicctrl03:48
OODor alsamixer in terminal03:48
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thompaOOD: i need to try that03:48
thompaDarkAudit: search in synaptic keyword "sony" there are the programs03:49
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dan_does anyone know if you can uninstall programs that you've installed manualy04:05
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dan_hello04:05
dan_anyone in here?04:06
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TheHighChilddan_ sudo apt-get remove packagename04:06
TheHighChildor go to Kmenu > Add/Remove Programs04:07
dan_well yeah but04:07
dan_what if i downloaded the file as a tar04:07
dan_and did the whole config and make stuff04:07
TheHighChildI would suggest reading the README and seeing if it creates an uninstall script or gives instructions on how to remove04:07
dan_ok04:08
dan_thanx04:08
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elknof1!paste04:11
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CornelliusWhat's the easiest way of update X to ver. 7 ?04:33
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bob_4_a_daywhat is missing when i get this error ?04:35
bob_4_a_daysetupterm failed: 004:35
bob_4_a_daySo we'll be running in dumb mode...04:35
bob_4_a_day'linux': unknown terminal type.04:35
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Zaire!nvidia04:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:35
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abattoirCornellius: dapper comes w/ ver.7.... doesnt it?04:37
abattoir!info xserver-xorg04:37
ubotuxserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB04:37
CornelliusYou're right04:37
bob_4_a_daywhat provides loadkeys ?04:37
bob_4_a_daybash: loadkeys: command not found04:37
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alexiconhello04:43
alexiconwhat tools do you guys recommend for wifi?04:43
alexiconim trying to setup and use wifi on my home network04:43
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alexiconbut this wireless assisntant thing doesnt seem to want to work04:44
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abattoiralexicon: knetworkmanager ?04:44
alexiconthanks i'll try that04:44
abattoir!info knetworkmanager04:44
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB04:44
alexicon:)04:45
max_help with orinoco card under dapper plz, breezy worked the old kernel on old dapper worked.  its just a proxim orinoco silver b/g card every distro ive tried supports it out of box..04:45
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Ashexgrr04:47
Ashexthis angers me04:47
Ashexi can't play music on my main partition in amarok04:47
Ashexbut it'll play in xmms04:47
abattoirmax_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/OrinocoKismet ?? But as the doc says, you should probably follow only the last part04:48
Ashexall the music on my ntfs partition plays fine in amarok too04:48
Ashex>:(04:48
max_abattoir: ill try it thx04:48
bob_4_a_daywhat provides loadkeys ?04:48
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bob_4_a_daysomebody ?04:51
abattoirbob_4_a_day: its installed for me by default...04:52
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bob_4_a_dayabattoir yeah so ?    i need to know what package it's in.    can you do a dpkg -something and tell me ?04:52
abattoirbob_4_a_day: wait... i'm searching04:53
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davemanso, uh... I have a question about APT and broken packages... what do I do when APT thinks a package is broken and it's not?04:54
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bob_4_a_daydaveman sudo apt-get install -f04:55
davemanthe game Tremulous depends on the latest version of libc6, right?  but Ubuntu uses a different version of libc604:56
abattoirbob_4_a_day: i cant find it, but from the man pages, i think its something like console tools, i 'll check...04:56
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nnn0daveman ?04:57
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davemanthe problem is Tremulous isn't in any of the repositories I know of for Debian or Ubuntu... I installed it myself04:57
JRH3K5Where should I seek help with a simple case's power LED question?04:57
bob_4_a_dayabattoir k thanks.04:57
abattoir!info console-tools04:57
ubotuconsole-tools: Linux console and font utilities. In repository main, is important. Version 1:0.2.3dbs-60ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 287 kB, installed size 892 kB04:57
abattoirbob_4_a_day: try that out ^^^^^^04:57
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nnn0hm daveman, you are not Daveman ?04:58
bob_4_a_dayyeah i think that's probably it abattoir,  thanks !04:58
davemanI don't think I'm that Daveman... this is my username in Linux.  I've never used IRC with this name before04:58
daveman...04:58
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nnn0k cause it's another Daveman here, he's not online now it seems :)04:59
bob_4_a_daynow i wish i could install it.04:59
max_hmm during install it detected wifi card fine as ath0 i checked iftab and interfaces files and they are right but iwconfig shows a sit0 device that does not work my ath0 is nowhere to be found..04:59
somebody_elsennn0, I bet the other Daveman was online when I was and that's why whatever IRC client I might have used before gave me a different name05:00
nnn0hehe05:00
alexiconanyone here use wifi on a dell laptop? :P05:00
alexiconive not been able to get this thing working, but maybe its the wpa encryption it doesnt like...05:01
bob_4_a_dayhmmm this could be bad.   nano wont run.05:01
somebody_elseso... about my problem.  "apt-get install -f" wants to uninstall the game I found.  I was hoping there was a way around that05:01
max_is there a plumb command or similar in ubuntu?05:01
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digitalslackerdoes anybody have ideas as to why I would be getting messages from adept saying that the package manager is already in use by another program when it's a fresh boot?05:02
bob_4_a_daysomebody_else was it a .deb package (assumes so seeing apt wants to rm it)   can you go ahead and let it rm the game then reinstall it and watch closely to see if it burps out errors...05:03
alexicondigitalslacker: ps -ef | grep apt      see whats running05:03
digitalslackeralexicon: it only comes up with the command I just issued05:04
bob_4_a_daysomebody_else as long as one package is partly installed the package manager is going to have trubble...05:04
alexiconhrmm..05:04
alexiconeven does that after you restart the application?05:04
somebody_elsebob_4_a_day, it was a .deb package... I used some kind of package manager and it said it wanted a different version of libc6... I made it install and configure without regarding the dependency05:04
digitalslackeryeah05:04
alexicon@_@05:04
alexiconcan you run apt-get commands on their own?05:05
bob_4_a_daydigitalslacker stale lock file maybe ?05:05
somebody_elsewhat's digitalslacker?05:05
digitalslackerI just tried sudo apt-get clean and it went successfully, but autoclean comes up bad05:05
knapperhey how do I install a kdm theme? kde-look.org says put it in ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes, but it doesn't exist.05:05
somebody_elseoh... nevermind05:06
bob_4_a_daysomebody_else yeah that's what breaks theing.   'don't force it.  just use a bigger hammer.'05:06
digitalslackerah ha, it was a failed install05:06
max_anyone here have proxim orinoco pcmcia card working in dapper?05:07
CntryboyAnyone ever used xvidcap?05:07
bob_4_a_dayalexicon adept/synaptic/aptitude/apt are all frontends for the 'debian package manager' dpkg    and yes any of them can be called from the command line.05:07
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alexiconsorry bob_4_a_day wasnt a question i was asking digitalslacker if he could05:08
bob_4_a_dayoh missread you.  my bad.05:08
somebody_elsebob_4_a_day   the game wants libc6 >= 2.3.6-6... I have libc6 2.3.6-0ubuntu2005:08
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digitalslackeralexicon: thanks, that did point me in the right direction. It was a failed mythtv installation. Thought it might be something to play with, but I guess not05:10
alexiconnp05:10
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skiddexanyone here have trouble installing gdm with amd k6/7?05:11
somebody_elseI've had conflicts with non-supported games that need libc6 version 2.3.6-6 and run just fine with the version I have, but seem to think that my version is lower05:11
bob_4_a_day!info libc605:11
ubotulibc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In repository main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB05:11
somebody_elseevery other time, I've simply uninstalled the game05:12
bob_4_a_daysomebody_else looks like you'll have to wait a little while or do some installing from scratch.05:12
somebody_elsebob_4_a_day ...wait a little while for what?05:13
skiddexkde runs fine on my k6/k7 machines but gdm dd hangs at the desktop load (black screen of death)05:13
alexiconhow can i get a wireless card configured??05:13
bob_4_a_daylater release of libv6 to hit the repos05:13
alexiconi believe its eth1, and it says up05:13
alexiconbut im unable to scan anything05:13
alexiconand i know theres at least 4-5 networks in my area05:13
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somebody_elseit seems like programs designed for Debian or other distros have trouble with version numbers that have words in them05:14
bob_4_a_dayskiddex 'black screen of death'  hehhe.    when that happens try  [alt] +[SysRQ] +[R]    and  then  [alt] +[ctrl] +[f1]   sometimes you can get to a console....05:15
max_skiddex: no problem except with latest nvidia driver install.. but vesa worked fine05:16
bob_4_a_dayif not then [alt] +[SysRQ] +[E]   should kill everything but the base system.05:16
max_alexicon: iwconfig shows it as a wireless device?05:16
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skiddexit just hangs at the desktop load - i am on kde live dapper now and no problem at all05:17
alexiconyep max_05:17
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max_alexicon: but iwlist eth1 scan reports nothing?05:17
luc45where is the kmenu directory?05:17
somebody_elseis there a way to make APT and/or DPKG not care about a specific package's unmet dependencies?  a game won't break anything else and it works just fine even though it's flagged as broken05:17
alexiconmax_: no scan results :/05:17
skiddexi just wanted gdm for the gaim app anyway cuz i like the linux room but can't have everything i guess05:17
skiddexkde works great live05:17
max_alexicon: what kind of card?05:18
bob_4_a_dayi have lost the display altogather and the system still be working  'bsod'  in which case one can use any normal command....  just have to fly blind....    lot's of fun.05:18
alexiconits in a dell inspiron 600m laptop05:18
alexiconnot sure05:18
Search4Lancerhow do I extract an ace archive?05:19
alexiconthink its an intel mini pci wireless card05:19
bob_4_a_daygdm=gaim usable ????    i didn't know gaim required gdm.05:19
alexiconis there a way i can find the details in proc or something?05:19
skiddexrunning this off an old hp xt936 and its pretty snappy05:19
alexiconit seems to recognise that its there, but i dunno why it wont scan anything05:20
bob_4_a_dayskiddex do you have gaim installed?05:20
skiddexno gaim is on the ubuntu distro - which won't run05:20
max_alexicon: well you could try sudo nano /etc/iftab and change eth1 to like wlan0 i think thats the normal entry for intel wireless card but dunno if that would help anything..05:20
bob_4_a_dayskiddex so install it05:20
bob_4_a_dayskiddex sudo apt-get install gaim05:21
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skiddexthis is a live cd so i'll just find another live distro with gaim05:21
alexiconmax_: think i can add duplicate entry and just change the name on the second to wlan005:21
skiddexmaybe knoppix i like it05:21
alexiconhrm i'll just add a new line actually :P05:21
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bob_4_a_dayskiddex oh.  you don't install linux ?05:22
skiddexno i have to stay on windows for business05:22
bob_4_a_dayskiddex it runs much better installed...      dual-boot05:22
max_skiddex: thats what vmware is for :)05:22
skiddexbut like to use linux in my spare time05:22
skiddexyeah i know05:22
somebody_elseskiddex   you could try Slax ...it's customizeable www.slax.org05:23
skiddexyeah i have slax and dsl knoppix berry and ubuntu to tshoot various systems05:23
skiddexmostly winblos stuff05:24
bob_4_a_dayall you need is a couple G of free (unpartitioned) hdd space.    and install it.      'backup data first there is always the chance that something might go wrong might go wrong might go wrong might go wrong05:24
skiddexlol that's what i thought05:25
skiddexanyway  linux is stable enough05:25
bob_4_a_dayskiddex same chance exists with the live cd's05:25
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skiddexbetter than any others for my way of thinking05:25
somebody_elseskiddex  ...there is a Windows app that can add modules to a Slax ISO image... you can use that to put Gaim and any other software you need on one of those... right?05:25
skiddexyeah but if they mount hd as ro i usually find its pretty safe05:26
skiddexwow its late05:26
skiddexthanks for the chat05:26
skiddexwill cya  later05:27
skiddexgnite05:27
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elknof1#kubuntu-es05:28
elknof1deam05:28
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bob_4_a_dayhmm over 250m of the default install is oo.o    figures05:36
digitalslackerokay, another problem I just noticed. My monitor settings (ie: power saving turned off and gamma turned off *dim monitor*) don't seem to save after restarting X05:39
digitalslackergamma turned up**05:39
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JRH3K5Anyone here know why icecast isn't binding to socket on port 8000?05:46
JRH3K5Because #icecast is a graveyard05:46
JRH3K5And Google's overrun with German.05:46
Ashexwhat's the name of the package that adds System Settings to the Kmenu05:51
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Ashexmine dissapeared05:51
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digitalslackerAshex: right click the taskbar> configure panel> Menus > it's an option in the "optional menus" pane on the right05:52
bob_4_a_dayAshex also of note,  all customization is stored in ~/.kde/<things>   you can change it back,  or just rm the whole thing.  that will reset kde to defaults.05:53
AshexIt's not in there05:53
Ashexyesterday when i was attempting to setup xgl, a lot of packages just vanished05:54
Ashexhaven't a clue why, but i've been adding them back in as I spot them05:54
digitalslackerAshex: it should be marked as just "Settings" (8th item from the top)05:54
bob_4_a_dayinstall kubuntu-desktop05:55
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digitalslackeralso, try running kcontrol to see if it comes up05:55
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AshexI have Kontrol05:56
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Ashexbut i was wondering about the kubuntu system control05:56
bob_4_a_dayeeek disk full.....05:56
digitalslackerAshex: alright, we were thinking of two different things. Try running "systemsettings" to see if that comes up05:57
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Ashexnope, doesn't exist05:58
AshexI looked in adept05:58
Ashexand kubuntu-desktop isn't installed05:58
bob_4_a_dayinstall kubuntu-desktop05:58
Ashexsomething tells me that should be there05:58
Lord_Athuri all, what do i have to do to become ubuntero in launchpad?05:59
digitalslackerkubuntui-desktop is only used as an overall. It's a bypass to get an all-in-one install. The package for systemsettings is called "kde-systemsettings"06:00
bob_4_a_daynope kubuntu-desktop is not nessary at all.  it's a meta package,   i.e. empty package that depends on other things....06:00
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digitalslackerhowever, installing kubuntu-desktop would probably bring back anything that's missing now as far as default installed apps06:01
Ashexso the package is more a wrapper of a bunch of other packages06:01
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bob_4_a_dayinstall kubuntu-desktop06:02
AshexYup06:02
Ashexit brought back system settings06:02
Ashexwhich brings up another problem06:02
Ashexit's empty :/06:02
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Ashexbleh06:03
bob_4_a_dayprobably not.    a restart of X might fix that.06:03
Ashexand now Kontrol is gone06:03
AshexI'll give it a shot06:03
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Zairek does anyone in here know what woul cause ktorrent to crash completly06:05
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GenericYup06:06
GenericIt's all good now06:06
Zaireit says ktorrent crashed and caused the signal6 SIGBART06:06
digitalslackerZaire: what were you doing when it crashed?06:06
Zaireopening a torrent file06:06
digitalslackerhave you tried a different torrent to make sure it's not a bad file or or something?06:07
Zaireyep and same thing06:08
Zairektorrent was working fine then it just crashed06:09
fiyawerxwell if it has one bad file in it, won't it try to load that file each time it starts up?06:09
fiyawerxmaybe have to remove that torrent manually first from the konsole?06:10
fiyawerxif thats what may be causing it06:10
digitalslackertry opening from konsole to see if there are any hints in the debug06:10
Zairewouldn't have a clue how to remove a torrent file06:10
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bob_4_a_daywhat was the first computer bug ?06:11
digitalslackera moth06:11
Zairehttp://pastebin.ca/9094106:11
bob_4_a_dayA;  a moth.      trapped between the contacts of a relay.06:12
Zaire!rm06:14
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:14
bob_4_a_day!cli06:15
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:15
bob_4_a_dayhmmm seems that they even casterated that info-node06:16
Zairek how the hell do I remove packages then06:16
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digitalslackerclose ktorrent, open a console and try removing the program profile (rm -r -f .kde/share/apps/ktorrent)06:16
bob_4_a_dayapt-get remove <package-name>06:16
bob_4_a_dayas root06:16
Zairekubuntu has no root only sudo06:17
digitalslackersudo apt-get remove <package-name> is the same as doing it as root06:17
Zairethere it was sudo apt-get remove --purge06:18
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Zaireneeded the --purge on the end to06:18
bob_4_a_daybull shit on the 'has no root'    evey time you issue  'sudo <blah> '  you run blah as root.06:18
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Zairethats not root thats super user capability theres a difference06:18
Zaireits still limited where as root is not06:19
bob_4_a_daythe only super user there is is  "root"06:19
digitalslackeryou can also sudo into a joe schmoe account, not just SU06:19
Zairebut root is inactive by default06:19
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Zaireyou have to activate the root account06:19
bob_4_a_dayand no.  the default *ubuntu's  sudo is not limited.06:19
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bob_4_a_dayZaire no.06:20
Zairefunny I couldn't sudo files for vsftpd on my server I had to activate the root account to do so06:20
bob_4_a_dayZaire you are talking through your hat.    type  sudo -i     and then   whoami06:20
digitalslackerroot is not disabled, root login is06:21
fiyawerxyou can change sudo to only give accounts access to predefined commands i believe06:21
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fiyawerxlike the way it works on Unix06:21
red-nighthello06:21
fiyawerxat least where I work thats how it's set up, you can't just run sudo <anything>06:21
fiyawerxvery tight security06:22
Zairethe only way to login as root is in cli gui is unable Ive tried06:22
unix_infidelcli gui?06:22
unix_infidelwtf?06:22
bob_4_a_dayZaire you are talking through your hat again.06:22
Zaireand root is inactive till you assign a pass to it a friend of mine knows more about root and cli then I do and he told me all about that little feature06:23
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|naturaljoe|......06:23
digitalslackerthose 3 evil words... "friend of mine"06:23
bob_4_a_dayZaire and obviously neither of you know much about them.06:23
Zairehe's a second year programmer and started with linux before me and Ive been at it for 5 years06:24
fiyawerxwhich means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of thinsg06:24
fiyawerxyou can use it for a while and still not know what your talking about06:24
bob_4_a_dayslow learner eeh06:24
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fiyawerxi work with guys that have been in IT 30 years and don't know how bookmarks work06:25
fiyawerxdon't ask them about mainframe commands tho or you'[re done for06:25
digitalslackerand I have a friend that's been using Linux since Slackware was first released and he still can't compile06:25
fiyawerxheh06:25
Zaireyea and trust me my friend isnt a dimwit like that06:25
fiyawerxZaire: of course not06:25
fiyawerxZaire: what i defined isn't a dimwit, either06:25
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fiyawerxbut length of experience in a related field != credibility all over06:26
Zairenot knowing how to bookmark takes a dimwit computer illiterate -_-06:26
fiyawerxand you believe him just because he has more experience than you06:26
fiyawerxthere's a term for that06:26
fiyawerxcrap whats it called, its a good one06:26
fiyawerxfalse authority syndrome or something?06:26
fiyawerxZaire: do you know how to IPL a mainframe region?06:26
fiyawerxif not, they'd call you a dimwit06:27
fiyawerxit's al relative06:27
ZaireI only do ftp stuff for personal use so no I don't06:27
Zaireand desktop aswell06:27
bob_4_a_dayZaire you should stop now, and cut your loses.    too late to save face, just save ass, and drop it.06:27
Lynourehmm06:27
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fiyawerxheh06:31
fiyawerxneed to quote that one06:31
fiyawerxZaire has left this server ("Universal_constant_ask_for_help_in_linux_get_stuck_up_prick_attitude").06:31
bob_4_a_dayso much for much for not being a dimwit....06:32
digitalslackerhehe, at he should try Slackware to see what kind of response comes from there06:33
bob_4_a_dayor debian06:33
bob_4_a_daygentoo even06:34
LynoureI have never gotten offensive responses on #debian, but I guess I have been lucky,,.06:34
digitalslackerI know that when I was on Slackware, I watched the IRC to see how many times "rtfm" was said06:35
Lynourewhen "man foo" is common here too06:35
digitalslackerI ran out of fingers and toes06:35
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LynoureSometimes I really don't feel like explaning things in the man for a user that can read it him/herself06:36
LynoureAnd sometimes I feel like saying utfg :)06:36
bob_4_a_dayLynoure you have obviously never tried to tell them that sudo was not root but super-user,  and then goint a big spill about how much you know about it cause your friend told you so....   hehhe     but at any rate.     no i have never gotten offensive responses anyplace except from those that "thought they knew, and didn't"   and you can find that anywhere.06:36
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Lynourebob_4_a_day: well, everone makes mistakes.06:37
bob_4_a_dayyeah   agreed.06:37
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bob_4_a_daysome more than others tho.06:38
fiyawerxi try not to rtfm, i'll google stuff for people, or use !'s when i know its there06:38
fiyawerxer to tell them rtfm heh06:38
fiyawerxbesides, a 3 second google makes you look good a lto for noobs :)06:38
Lynourebob_4_a_day: and as far as I know sudo does come from the words "superuser do".... :)06:38
Lynourelto?06:39
LynoureSorry, I'm  a bit acronym blind.06:39
abattoiri guess that's lot... or is it not?06:39
bob_4_a_dayyes Lynoure,  and the superuser is ???     that's right.  'root'06:39
Lynourebob_4_a_day: Yes, never said it wasn't.06:40
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bob_4_a_dayi know.   but "<Zaire> thats not root thats super user capability theres a difference  <Zaire> its still limited where as root is not  <Zaire> you have to activate the root account "    ^^^   that's what just happened here.   and that's all i was on about.06:41
digitalslackerhey, if I remember correctly (and I refuse to lay money or my memory), but wasn't dapper supposed to have a different gui for apt?06:41
bob_4_a_dayadapt synaptic ???     idk.06:42
Lynourebob_4_a_day: I do have logs. It was an unpleasant conversation to see the first time.06:42
digitalslackeroh well, I thought I saw something different on one of the earlier beta releases06:43
bob_4_a_dayoh thought you might have just stumbled in...06:43
JRH3K5Okay.06:45
Lynourebob_4_a_day: no, I seem to be here pretty much 24/7, but I did just wake uo, that's why I didn't ! at you all :)06:45
JRH3K5So, I'm trying to generate a password for Icecast.06:45
bob_4_a_daykpackage06:45
JRH3K5But makepasswd keeps using a new seed every time.06:45
maryhamhi to all06:45
digitalslackerwell, work beckons in 6 hours, so goodnight all06:45
bob_4_a_dayso you on staf around her Lynoure ?06:46
maryhamI just install the new Dapper and I can  not mount my cdrom. Anyone can help?06:46
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maryhamI just install the new Dapper and I can  not mount my cdrom. Anyone can help?06:47
Lynourebob_4_a_day: No. Not getting paid for this.06:47
bob_4_a_daymaryham third time's a charm...     sudo mount /cdrom06:47
bob_4_a_daymaryham but you do know that you don't mount audio cd's....06:48
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maryhambob_4_a_day, thx06:48
bob_4_a_daynp06:48
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maryhamI do not want mount audio cd, I just want use my cdrom...06:49
bob_4_a_dayyeah   sudo mount /cdrom      and sudo eject     are your friends.06:49
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maryhambut not working!!06:50
bob_4_a_dayor maybe even   pmount /cdrom          i never tried that.06:50
samoerm... I thought that hald/udev/kde/whatever took care of that automagically :$06:50
OODit should06:50
Lynoure*nod*06:50
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OODjust pop in a cd and you get a menu06:50
bob_4_a_daymaryham hmmm ok   lets have a look at the fstab.       grep -e cdrom /etc/fstab06:51
maryhamI have this error/message "unknown file system type supermount"06:51
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samois it a burned/data cd??06:52
Lynouremaryham: What filesystem does your cdrom have? mac cd I'd expect to cause that.06:52
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maryhamno06:52
michelHi06:52
maryhampc cdrom06:52
maryhamI am on a laptop06:53
maryhamDell06:53
michelAnyone has a atheros wifi card under dapper?06:53
Lynouremichel: they are not that uncommon, have you googled to solve your problem already?06:54
samomaryham: does it happen only with that cdrom, or have you tried with other cds already06:54
maryhamok, let change cd06:54
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maryhamI can see the cd Icon on my desktop but when i am trying to open I have a message"only root can mount"06:56
maryhamNo, same error06:56
samomaryham: what (k)ubuntu version do you have?06:57
maryhamI try to change setting through the system settings but no success06:57
maryhamDapper06:57
Lynouremaryham: do you have a line vague similar to the following in your /etc/fstab :06:57
Lynouremaryham: /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       006:57
maryhamyes I do06:57
maryhamdo you mean on my settings?06:58
Lynouremaryham: the "user" bit there is the one that should allow a normal user to mount the cdrom06:58
michelLynoure yes06:58
bob_4_a_daytype this back to me.06:58
bob_4_a_day/exec -o mount | grep cdrom06:58
michelI have found a reference to my bug and a solution but I do not get it to fully work.06:59
maryhamok, let me try to change the settings06:59
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michelIn part because I do not understand something in the solution....06:59
Lynouremaryham: don't copy it exactly unless you know what you are doing, your cd drive might be a different device than mine.06:59
michelLynoure: do you know anything about the ath drivers?07:00
maryhamok Lynoure. Let me try change some settings07:00
Lynouremichel: I don't use them myself, sorry. So nothing too specific07:00
michelHmmm maybe I should switch to SuSE. I hear it does not have the bug....07:00
michelLynoure: how does one install a package's source code?07:01
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Genericmichel, check the man for mount07:02
Lynouremichel: But if the source has the bug you'd prolly want to go get teh newest source you can, and just get the stuff you need for building it07:02
Genericthere's a bit in there about setting the uid07:02
GenericI had the problem with my ntfs drives07:03
GenericI forget which option it is, but one of these is what you need: umask=007,gid=4607:03
bob_4_a_dayno uid bit on iso*07:04
Genericdo a cat /etc/fstab and paste the line with the cdrom07:05
michelLynoure the trouble is a difference in module names between the ubuntu standard release and the latest source code07:05
Lynouremichel: apt-get source <packagename> anyway, but do take that comment in considiration. Sucks to compile something just to find out it was the buggy version07:05
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michelLynoure: I am able to install the new drivers and make them work, but not in combination with the NetworkManager07:06
michelSomeone posted a patch to NetworkManager but I want to patch the ubuntu version, not the general release07:06
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Lynouremichel: sounds like a good idea. Maybe even share the result, might get the problem fixed faster in ubuntu.07:08
michelWell to start with I need to know how to install it then... :) Does synaptic allow to install the source of something?07:09
Lynouremichel: I've never tried that with synaptic. On apt it's dirt easy.07:09
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michelLynoure... I tried.... trouble: apt-get source network-manager07:11
michelresult:07:11
michelE: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_dapper_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)07:12
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fiyawerxapt-get update work?07:12
Lynouremichel: hmm07:12
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michelfiawerx: says some index files failed to download. they have been ignored07:13
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Lynouremichel: they do exist, you could try another mirror...  (I get them fine here)07:13
michelI removed the freecontrib from the sources.list07:14
michelHow do I get the list of files it installed?07:15
maryhamLynoure, I am going to trow that PC in garbage!!!07:15
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Lynouremichel: apt-get does mention them when unpacking, usually packagename_version.dsc .tar.gz and .diff.gz07:16
maryhamWhy I have a message "unknown supermount file"07:16
Lynouremaryham: Quoting a Dell support person I used to know "you may, Ma'am, but it will not work any better after that"07:16
samorotfl07:17
michelbut where does it put them?07:17
michelah... wherever I am...07:17
michelweird idea07:17
Lynouremichel: in the directory you were in when you typed the command (if you used synaptic, beats me)07:17
maryhamLynoure, my cdrom was working fine with the breezybadger07:18
_rince_mrgn07:18
Lynouremaryham: can you put your /etc/fstab in a pastebin ?07:18
Lynouremaryham: did you manage to mount by help of sudo? If not, you might want to reboot with a live cd to make sure your drive still works07:19
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fiyawerxand if you don't have a live cd, you can try to burn one to see if your drive still works...07:20
fiyawerx;)07:20
Lynourefiyawerx: :)07:21
samoerm... a silly question... if I had to install 5.10 first, then upgrade to 6.04, since the monitor is too old, how do I enable the splash screen on startup?07:21
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nikkianadoes anyone know if there's a way to disable that annoying click on the touchpad thing if you're using a touchpad on a laptop?07:22
Lynouresamo: old monitor should not force that, but you might have to do some manual configuring in xorg confs07:22
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abattoirnikkiana: try qsynaptics/ksynaptics... it has a 'Tap:Off' option07:22
abattoirnikkiana: or you can manipulate the synaptics driver by hand07:23
Genericanyone aware of a xchat plugin/script for xmms?07:23
nikkianaabattoir: ooh. i'll check it out. thanks.07:23
abattoirnikkiana: funny, i had the same thought in my mind, as you typed your message. :)07:23
maryhamhello Lynoure, I just try a music cd and it works,,Why not data?07:23
samolynoure: I can get to kdm and kde fine after lilo and init finish the boot process, I just don't get the blue logo over black background screen07:24
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niccon ubuntu 6.06 - kdevelop seems to have "lost" all the online documentation (perl especially). i have installed kde from ubuntu. does any one know if all documentation is intact in kubuntu 6.06 - or is there a package that you know of that contain all te docs? thanks!07:25
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Lynouremaryham: short answer: because they are handled differently. I'm soon off to work, so ask the channel, not me, for more help07:27
Lynouresamo: but you do get prompted for login?07:27
maryhamthx 4 your time...07:27
samonicc: you might try installing kdevelop3-doc07:28
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niccsamo: did that, but no luck. i guess i have to try kubuntu rather and see if that works - maybe the kde install on ubuntu is not as slick ?07:29
samolynoure: yes, I see the kdm login theme and I can login, it's just that lilo boots in text only mode07:29
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Lynouresamo: I'm a quite spartan person when it comes to prettiness on the computer, so I've never fiddled with the looks.07:29
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samolynoure: hehehe np, it's no big issue07:30
samonicc: I've only installed kubuntu so I can't comment on the docs availability on the gubuntu side07:31
Lichtehow do I keep kbluetoothd and adept_update from loading up on boot ??  Must I kill them and save the session and then start that session on startup each time or is there another way ?07:31
niccsamo: thanks07:31
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darekdmpjest tu kto z polski?07:34
crimsun!pl07:34
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl07:34
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orient2000pojrz do #ubuntu-pl OK?07:36
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Lynouresamo: one bug looks like it might be related:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/27837 , but of course there can be other reasons, too07:37
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|naturaljoe|gotta love splits07:37
abattoiranother desync?07:37
orient2000orient2000@rogers.com Polski.07:38
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ironfroggyDo i have to install samba for clients or just servers?07:38
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nikkianaokay, not to sound like a complete and utter moron... now that i've installed ksynaptics, and i've set my settings to what i want them to be, why isn't my touchpad behaving?07:39
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TehKewl1I really need some help...07:46
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kickmasshello everyone.07:46
TehKewl1Kubuntu didnt like my Geforce 207:46
unix_infidelTehKewl1: works fine here.07:46
TehKewl1hmm07:46
unix_infidel!3d07:47
ubotuI know nothing about 3d - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:47
unix_infidel!nvidia07:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:47
kickmassmy problem is that I can surf net using IP address but not the FQDN. can anyone help ?07:47
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TehKewl1I had to remove the card, and restart using on board video07:47
TehKewl1ok I'll restart now,07:48
ironfroggyI just installed kubuntu on my laptop, and i tried connecting to my samba server. how can i list hosts on the local network?07:48
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unix_infidelironfroggy: what do you mean by 'list host'07:50
unix_infidelyou're in linux now: host, netbios name etc etc have different meanings.07:50
ironfroggyunix_infidel: as in, to list the samba hosts on the network.07:50
ironfroggyive been in linux.. like i said, its a samba server.07:50
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ironfroggyim just trying to locate the shares so i can access them properly.07:51
unix_infidelironfroggy: use smb4k to make your life easier.07:51
ironfroggywhere is that? i dont see it in the package manager.07:52
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knapperironfroggy: do you mean "smb:///"07:53
unix_infidelironfroggy: apt-cache search smb4k07:53
knappersmb:///<workgroup_name>/07:54
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knapperinto konquerer (or Nautilus)07:54
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ironfroggyhmm... i dont see any results for smb4k, and the smb kioslave doesnt seem to be able to connect to my server.07:55
crimsun!info smb4k07:55
ubotusmb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 489 kB, installed size 2032 kB07:55
unix_infidelironfroggy: firewall?07:56
ironfroggynope.07:56
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ironfroggyalso, can i configure a partition to be mountable (an ntfs partition in this case) without editing fstab directly?07:59
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ironfroggyim trying to configure it manually, but i cant remember how to set the permissions for the mounted volume, so only roon can read it.08:01
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noiesmoHello all08:06
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simeonits me TehKewl108:07
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noiesmoI have a kubuntu system I was tring to build from source on and it needed the kde headers but i had a conflict thru apt so I used aptitude to try and resolve the conflicts it then removed a heap of files now that system cannot resolve names ie internet or apt-get or xchat etc and I get an operation not permitted when i try and ping from the affected system08:08
lafrancenoiesmo: edit that file you be ok after it08:08
TehKewl1its making me feel all chlostrophobic at this tiny resolution, and they're are no Icons...08:09
lafrancecould be corupt file08:09
ironfroggyediting the fstab, how can i specify the permissions of the mounted volume?08:09
ironfroggyits changing the permissions of my mountpoint.08:09
noiesmowhich file do you suggest i edit I have edit /etc/resolv.conf but no luck08:09
lafrancehold on grampa just did that a few hours ago08:10
lafrancesudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list08:10
lafrancecheck to see if there to many sources use 1 at the time and # the others08:10
noiesmothe system obtains an ip address automatically thru dhcp can ssh other system within network just no name resolution happenen08:11
ironfroggyediting the fstab, how can i specify the permissions of the mounted volume?08:14
ironfroggyits changing the permissions of my mountpoint currently.08:14
uwowhich is the KDE root directory in Kubuntu?08:14
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TehKewl1WHAT cant you include gcc in a distro08:18
TehKewl1now I cant make all my perl modules...08:19
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marcus__can i get some network help please?08:22
MuJmaybe08:22
MuJwe need to know your problem first :)08:22
marcus__okay i have it so i can view shares on my windows machine in linux but not on my linux machine in windows08:23
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MuJhttp://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-share-files-using-samba.html  I think this is what you're looking for08:24
marcus__thnak you08:25
MuJlet me know if it works08:25
MuJfor you :P08:25
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maryhamPlease I need help. How can you change privilege and permission for file in Dapper?08:30
unix_infidelman chmod08:30
unix_infidelman chown08:30
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kuzmasterhello all08:33
MuJyo08:33
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Kevin_Jimhi08:36
TehKewl1_ok it still doesnt even start KDE08:36
TehKewl1_what do I need to do with the drivers?08:37
lafranceTehKewl1_: did you just do a dvd install?08:37
TehKewl1_a cd install08:38
lafrancedell pc ?08:38
Kevin_Jimi try to install libc6 2.3.6-15 from a *.deb packeg but it's brokes cause it needed some depedecies so i opes synaptic kai den it give's me a messege that there is e broken packeges08:38
TehKewl1_and I had to remove my geforce 208:38
TehKewl1_and reboot with onboard video08:38
Kevin_Jimi Find them but i can't fix them neither reinstall them08:38
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TehKewl1_but that only works at 640x48008:38
Kevin_Jimwhat can i do ?08:38
TehKewl1_so I installed the drivers08:39
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Kevin_Jimhelp plz08:39
MuJTehKewl1_: what drivers did you use?08:40
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TehKewl1_nvidia glx08:40
MuJfrom apt?08:40
TehKewl1_I in the terminal now08:40
TehKewl1_yup08:40
TehKewl1_command line sorry08:41
MuJwhat does egrep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log give you?08:41
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TehKewl1_Il check08:42
ironfroggyis there any reason that accessing a samba share with the smb kioslave that it should ask me for my password five times and still not list the contents?08:42
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TehKewl1_it tells me I still using the CIRRUS08:44
TehKewl1_(on board)08:44
TehKewl1_I remember modifying something to fix the same problem in ubuntu08:44
TehKewl1_but I forget what it was08:44
MuJdriver -> nvidia ?08:45
Kevin_Jima little help with libc6 ?!?08:45
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willhey guys brand new to linux and looking for a little help getting started08:46
Kevin_Jim...08:46
willi've had some compatability issues with konqueror (using kubuntu btw)08:46
TehKewl1_where is the equivalent of X11R6 config?08:47
willso the first thing I was going to do was install firefox08:47
MuJTehKewl1_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:47
TehKewl1_thats the one08:47
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willI downloaded the tar file but don;t know how to install08:47
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MuJwill: first thing you do is how to learn apt-get, aptitude or adept08:47
Kevin_Jimwill: tar zxvf "nameofthefile".tar.gz08:48
ironfroggyWhy might i get "Su returned with an error" when i try to start adept?08:48
MuJlearn how to* :D08:48
Kevin_Jimsomeone help me if you will ?08:48
willok.  I've got adept and ark08:49
TehKewl1_ok then try just clicking on it, then clicking on the firefox file08:49
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MuJKevin_Jim: apt-get install libc6 ? :)08:49
Kevin_Jimit's just don't work08:49
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MuJoh.. you on 64bit system then?08:49
Kevin_Jimneither: sudo apt-get -f libc608:49
MuJwhat does it say then?08:50
willwhat is the file extension of firefox.08:50
willthere are no .exe08:50
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Kevin_Jimand when i try via the synaptic, i get a messege that there's an error and it can not fix the packeges08:50
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MuJwill: as I said, learn to use adept, it's the way you should be installing your programs on kubuntu08:51
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willk08:51
TehKewl1_there isnt one, is there one with a black box in the middle called firefox\08:51
MuJKevin_Jim: you tried debian package right?08:51
willno black box08:52
Kevin_Jimyes08:52
MuJtry to uninstall with dpkg08:52
Kevin_JimMuj: ok08:52
willif I use adept, do I still use the tar file?08:53
TehKewl1_no\08:53
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TehKewl1_btw, back to my problem, do I need to enter an identifier08:54
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TehKewl1_or just driver nvidia08:54
Kevin_JimMuj: i'm steal getting error08:54
Kevin_Jimeven and throught consloe08:54
michelwhy is firefor crashing all the time?08:55
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MuJwhat's the broken package then? :)08:55
Kevin_Jimis the libc6 !!08:55
Kevin_Jimsynaptic spot them but can fix them08:55
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Kevin_Jimcan't08:55
MuJok.. try forcing it somehow with dpkg.. I'm pretty sure you can fix it with that08:56
Kevin_Jim...08:56
MuJsry that I don't remember how to do it accurately08:56
willwhen I search for firefox on adept, the status reads as installed08:57
MuJTehKewl1_: the identifier doesn't matter.. you can put anything you wan't there08:57
MuJwill: then you just pick it from k-menu -> internet -> firefox  or if you don't have icon there press alt+f2 and type in firefox08:58
TehKewl1_what is the driver name08:59
MuJTehKewl1_: oh and comment out Load "dri" from Modules section08:59
MuJnvidia08:59
MuJthat should be it.. hope it works :)09:00
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TehKewl1_I still get No Screens found09:01
willMuJ: its not in there09:01
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willMuJ: and I couldnt run the app with alt f209:02
michelDoes anyone else have firefox freezing all the time?09:02
TehKewl1_hit alt+f2 and type in firefox09:02
willTehKewl1_: did that09:02
TehKewl1_hmm09:02
will"could not run the specified command"09:03
koshI have not had firefox freeze much however I also don't do much with it09:03
MuJobviously it's NOT installed then09:03
koshwhen using it to test development websites I have never run into problems09:03
kosheven when those sites are at a remote location09:03
TehKewl1_well why would I keep getting No Screens found09:03
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MuJwill: in console type this: sudo apt-get install firefox09:03
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MuJthen learn to use apt-get and adept properly :)09:03
willMuJ: yah I figured that.  dont know why it thinks it is09:03
koshmichel: are you running firefox with multiple tabs and going to sites that use ajax on more then one of them?09:03
willMuJ: k will try09:04
michelNope. simple stuff09:04
kuzmasteris it possible to do a non-destructive partiton in kubuntu09:04
michelkosh: Gets stuff pretty rapidly09:04
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willMuJ: do I use sudo with kubuntu or kdesu09:04
kuzmasterlike, resize an ext3 partition09:04
michelkosh: though I have to paid much attention, but I installed the one from the normal installed and the one from mozilla.com and both freeze.09:05
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MuJwill: you only need kdesu if you're running graphical interfaces.. which apt-get is not09:05
kuzmastercos i want to change about 10 gb of my ext3 partion to fat09:05
MuJon cli you use sudo09:05
koshmichel: so when does it freeze? what kind of network connection do you have?09:05
kuzmasteris that possible, in kubuntu 6.06?09:05
koshsorry no idea on that09:05
michelkosh: I have cable. It freezes randomly after opening some page.09:05
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koshmichel: does it only happen on some pages? are there pages it never happens on?09:06
michelHmmmm I would have to play more on random pages09:06
kuzmasteranyone?09:06
MuJTehKewl1_: could you somehow get the output of egrep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log after you've tried to start X with geforce and failed?09:07
michelkosh: How about that? I did not even open a page09:07
koshmichel: what happened?09:07
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willMuJ: it read package lists, built dependency tree, but then said package firefox is not available but is referred to by anotehr porgram09:07
kuzmasteranyone at all?09:07
michelhad opera runing and I poped it in front of firefox and now that I bring firefox to the forefront, it is frozen...09:07
MuJwill: oh sorry.. it's mozilla-firefox just change that in the end09:08
willMuJ: "this may mean that the pckg is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only abailable from another source09:08
willk09:08
TehKewl1_loading extension MIT_SCREEN_SAVER09:08
TehKewl1_no devices detected09:08
koshcan you type free and put the mem and swap lines here?09:08
willMuJ: got the same response09:09
jeff_hey guys09:09
jeff_anybody having video playback problems with compiz?09:09
michelkosh?09:10
kuzmasterplease, because i really need this to be donw09:10
kuzmasterdone09:10
jeff_also, does anybody know how to add a podcast to Listen?09:10
koshmichel: at a command prompt type the word free and hit enter   then past the lines that say Mem: and Swap: in here09:10
koshmichel: they are both pretty short09:10
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MuJwill: you on dapper? what architecture?09:11
lafrancejeff_: use amorok for ading podcast do not use 1.4 version though09:11
michelMem:       2058576    1504668     553908          0        424    100822009:11
michelSwap:      2929676          0    292967609:12
willMuJ: not sure.  just downloaded the latest release of kubuntu and installed09:12
jeff_lafrance: but i dont want to use kde09:12
kuzmasteri really need somone to just tell me if i can do that or not, im really desprate09:12
michelkosh: Not a mmory problem09:12
kuzmasteris it possible to do a non-destructive partiton in kubuntu, like, resize an ext3 partition09:12
koshyup not memory related I just wanted to make sure09:12
MuJwill: ok.. all that I can really think of now is type this first in console sudo apt-get update and then the other apt-get command09:12
koshfirefox is a PIG the way it caches pages is VERY os unfriendly09:13
unix_infidelkosh: sure.09:13
koshso I wanted to make sure that was not the obvious cause of your issue09:13
unix_infidelerm kuzmaster09:13
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michelkosh: I have run firefox a lot on suse and never had any trouble.09:13
kuzmasterunix_infidel, yes09:13
unix_infidelkuzmaster: sure...09:13
TehKewl1_it still giving me trouble09:13
unix_infideltry gparted or qtparted.09:13
jeff_lafrance: when i click 'add a podcast' in Listen, it asks for a 'uri'. where could i find one of those? im trying to add the ubuntuos podcast and the only url they give ends in .xml09:13
unix_infidelkuzmaster: however its not recommended that you resize often.09:14
unix_infideland make sure you backup everything.09:14
koshmichel: so the firefox problem is something else but I do know when I have used it to work that it will cause me problems if I push it hard, normally with konqueror I have 6-10 browsers open with 5-10 tabs each with firefox that will kill my system but konqueror will use about 200M of ram doing that09:14
kuzmasteri only need to do it once, to move files from kubuntu to windows09:14
kuzmasterunix_infidel, ive looked in both, but i dont know how to do it09:14
lafrancejeff_: you need to go to there web site and copy the URL09:14
unix_infidelkuzmaster: look at documentation for it then.09:14
TehKewl1_I havent set something09:15
kuzmasterok09:15
MuJTehKewl1_: can you send me your xorg.conf?09:15
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TehKewl1_gonna be hard...09:15
MuJuse irssi :P09:15
willMuJ: I did apt-get update.  that happened pretty quick09:15
kuzmasterunix_infidel, i just downloaded the doc for it, but where are they located?09:15
lafrancejeff_: example for twit url is http://leoville.tv/podcasts/twit.xml09:15
michelkosh: It is very frustrating. That and the wireless driver is pushing me away.... back to Suse09:16
MuJwill: well yeah.. it just updates package lists..09:16
willMuJ: then the "other" apt get I assume was the install mozilla firefox09:16
MuJyes09:16
willMuJ: that didnt work09:16
TehKewl1_is there a command line IRC client?09:16
MuJdid you have - in between? :)09:16
koshmichel: do you have anything strange running? like using the opengl x stuff etc?09:16
sF|XemanthTehKewl1_: irssi09:16
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jeff_lafrance: yeah, thats what i did. i copied 'http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed.xml' into the dialog in listen and nothing happened after i clicked ok09:17
michelkosh: No. I doubt it's related to that as it happened before I installed the special ATI drivers and still does after09:17
TehKewl1_can I dcc with it?09:17
MuJTehKewl1_: yes09:17
TehKewl1_ok09:18
TehKewl1_hold on09:18
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koshmichel: ah the xgl stuff is what I mean, you are not running that right? that is some experiemental thing that you would have had to play with yourself and does not come as part of kubuntu09:19
michelnope09:19
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kuzmastercan somone please tell me where the documention is located for qtparted?09:19
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kuzmasterive downloaded it, but i cant find it09:20
jaffa_Thor you here?09:20
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TehKewl1_how do I connect to the server with it?09:20
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koshmichel: out of curiosity are the pages you are viewing flash stuff, multimedia etc?09:21
MuJ /connect server.address.here :)09:21
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willwell as much as I hate to, I;m about ready to go back to wincrap09:22
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michelKosh no. As I told you it froze on the ubuntu intro page! I could not believe it09:22
lafrancejeff_: what program did you use ?09:22
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koshmichel: ah I did not see you say that09:22
ironfroggykosh: so you are a kubuntu user?09:23
kuzmastercan somone please tell me where that documentation is for qtparted09:23
kuzmasteri cant find it anywhere09:23
michelkosh :(09:23
koshironfroggy: I use kubuntu and debian sid and my kubuntu is not a pure kubuntu09:23
jeff_lafrance: i tried it in Listen (gnome music app, said to be amarok equivalent) and in rhythmbox09:23
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jeff_lafrance: nothing happened in listen and rhythmbox crashed09:23
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ironfroggykosh: ive only just installed it dual boot on my laptop and am _trying_ to get it installed on an old box for my webserver.09:24
kuzmasterplease??????09:24
simeonok its me TehKewl109:24
jeff_lafrance: should i have some package installed or something?09:24
kuzmasterfine then09:24
simeonhow do I dcc it09:24
lafrancejeff_: after you enter the link did you make sure to download or update podcast ? I do not use gnome  sorry09:24
kuzmaster!qtparted09:24
ubotuI know nothing about qtparted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:24
kuzmaster!partition09:25
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks09:25
ironfroggyis it possible to write the install CD to a small hdd and install from there? my box has a buggy cd drive.09:25
kuzmaster!qtparted09:25
ubotuI know nothing about qtparted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:25
koshmichel: you you have top running at the same time so that it is visible while you are using firefox, just to see if you get some massive cpu etc spike when firefox is frozen09:25
jeff_lafrance: yeah, it said it was 100% done updating 0/0 podcasts09:25
simeoncom09:25
simeoncmon09:25
koshmichel: also just in case in a terminal type dmesg and see if any of the last 10 lines or so seems bad, usually bad stuff shoudl be pretty obvious09:25
lafrancejeff_:  please check were the file are save mp3 and see if it there ? to make sure09:26
kuzmasterANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:26
koshkuzmaster: I have no idea, however repartition is ALWAYS dangerous you need to have backups of anything you don't want destroyed09:26
MuJsimeon: /dcc send nick file09:27
lafrancekuzmaster: do you aim ?09:27
jeff_lafrance: ok just a sec09:27
jeff_lafrance: oh damnit im in the wrong channel09:27
michelkosh: nothing in dmesg that is new09:27
kuzmasterlafrance, no, only msn and google talk09:27
jeff_lafrance: lol i just realized im in kubuntu instead of ubuntu09:27
jeff_kuzmaster: how do you google talk on ubuntu?09:28
koshmichel: okay how about the top thing? you just open a konsole window and type top09:28
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jeff_kuzmaster: or kubuntu09:28
kuzmasterummmm, i4get09:28
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kuzmasteryou use gaim09:28
kuzmasterthats what i use09:28
lafrancekuzmaster: ad this name badiane is a guru on debian and know it09:28
michelkush: I would have to restart firefox and get it to freeze again. Hold on09:29
kuzmasterso ad "badiane is a guru on debian and know it"?09:29
MuJTehKewl1: damn.. stupid firewalls... try adding -passive ;)09:29
TehKewl1ok09:30
TehKewl1I'm trying09:31
TehKewl1umm MuJ09:32
MuJcan't connect.. :(09:32
MuJ*sigh*09:33
TehKewl1are you logged in, MuJ09:33
koshmichel: yeah debugging sucks but I searched the ubuntu forums and could not find any problems similar to yours09:34
TehKewl1>:o09:34
michelkosh: It's weird. After the last crash, I restarted firefox and it opened on a different page and the menu did not have the huge fonts it had before and so far it has not crashed09:35
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TehKewl1I am really angry now!!09:35
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TehKewl1there is an option DPMS under monitor, is that ok?09:36
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MuJTehKewl1: yeah09:37
TehKewl1hmm...09:37
krautmoin09:38
TehKewl1what about the bus ID?09:38
Lynoureoff-topic: What language is that moin stuff anyway?09:38
MuJLynoure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin09:39
MuJTehKewl1: mine is "PCI:1:0:0"09:39
LynoureMuJ: Wow, lost of Frisians here...09:40
Lynoures/lost/lots09:40
MuJnah.. it has just spread :P09:40
LynoureMuJ: Oh, like ciao! of the 80s, gosh I feel old.09:42
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MuJ"Moin can be used 24 hours a day." I think it fits pretty well on internet when there's usually people on from all around the world.09:43
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simeonITS WORKING!! YAY09:44
MuJ.. :)09:44
MuJwhat was the problem?09:44
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simeonBUS ID PCI0:02:0 meant to be 1:0:009:45
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simeonor whatever09:45
arsohi guys09:46
MuJsimeon: ah... so you had both graphics cards enabled at the same time09:47
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arsoi wanna set up a network with a win XP , home edition laptop and my kubuntu desktop, is it possible?09:47
simeonno09:47
simeonI had to pull the GeForce out09:47
simeonnot very hard cos I dont have a cover over my case09:48
simeonthen I wa09:49
simeonnted it back in09:49
cox377arso: yeh, what u wanna do?09:52
arsocox377:  hey there, make a file sharing network with my laptop (win xp home) and my desktop (kubuntu)09:52
arsothey are both connected to a router for internet09:52
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arsovia ethernet09:52
wordthe ubuntu stickers that came with the cds are well..crap..lol...you can rub em off..09:52
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lafranceword: The price you paid for it do you realy care ?09:53
wordno :P and i have 15 more so I don't care even more ;p09:53
lafranceheheh09:54
arsocox377:  u know?09:55
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lafrancearso samba will connect both even mac box09:55
arsolafrance:  i need to instal that?09:57
lafrancewell I think so samba is the server that read other box09:57
arsoand will it be as simple on the laptop, windows home networking SUX09:57
arsohow do i get it09:58
MuJhttp://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-share-files-using-samba.html  I just did this and am happily sharing my files between my linux box, my laptop and xbox ;)09:58
lafrancewindows no idea after win Me never bought another window OS mac and linux09:58
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arsoMuJ:  i see, thanx ;)09:59
MuJyou don't need to do anything on windows.. other than be in same workgroup and browse "network places" (or whatever that icon is called in english windows)09:59
fiyawerxi need to come up with a good name for my desktop09:59
fiyawerxor desktop/laptop combo names hehe10:00
arsolol10:00
lafranceFoss/sucker10:00
arsofiery wax10:00
fiyawerxlol10:00
arsolol10:00
MuJfiyawerx: http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/name-themes.html :)10:00
fiyawerxMuJ: nice :)10:00
arsolol10:00
arsoohh, where do i name my kubuntu?10:01
MuJ /etc/hostname10:01
fiyawerxdisinformation/illumination maybe :)10:01
arsolol10:02
fiyawerxFnord!10:02
apokruphosI've always been a fan of mythologies, myself10:02
MuJI have orcus/juiblex/geryon for major demons in nethack :P10:02
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fiyawerxhehe10:02
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bartekmpjo10:02
bartekmpwww.fullopcja.cba.pl10:02
arso"arteriosclerosis" lol10:02
fiyawerxoh haha "cheeses"10:03
MuJarso: rhymes with arso :P10:03
bartekmpyeah10:03
bartekmpyeah10:03
fiyawerxmy gf would piss her pants laughing, im a big cheese lover10:03
bartekmpkurwa10:03
bartekmpma10:03
fiyawerxshes always making fun of me because of anything with cheese in it10:03
bartekmppojebacy10:03
fiyawerxmaybe like 'macn' and 'bleu'10:03
arsohaha10:03
anoid`omg lol cheese10:03
bartekmpskurwiele10:04
arsoi know i know10:04
arso"ROFLCOPTER"10:04
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fiyawerxhah, desktop = Bleu!10:04
bartekmpchuje10:04
arsoor Lols-Royce10:04
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fiyawerxafk4710:04
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bartekmpcocks10:05
anoid`bartekmp - alanis morisette pwns your life10:05
bartekmpjojo10:05
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lafrancebartekmp: no need for that kind of language is there ? Or did you drop out of school in grade 510:05
arsojojo is 16 DAMN10:05
bartekmpjojo10:05
arsoor did u join it when u were 2010:06
bartekmpI have in school 6 for english10:06
bartekmpkutasy10:06
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bartekmpanoid` ty zdziro10:06
bartekmpanoid` ty zdziro10:07
bartekmpanoid` ty zdziro10:07
bartekmpanoid` ty zdziro10:07
arsobartekmp:  dont spam10:07
bartekmpanoid` ty zdziro10:07
bartekmpanoid` ty zdziro10:07
bartekmpanoid` ty zdziro10:07
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MuJ*yawn*10:07
arso....10:07
bartekmpdon't10:07
arsono admins10:07
MuJsoma yourself out alraedy.. would you please? :)10:07
arsoanyone here uses blender?10:07
MuJspam even10:07
bartekmpjo10:07
bartekmpdziwkarz10:07
bartekmppizdafony10:08
anoid`someone call his social worker10:08
bartekmpjo spierdalaj10:08
MuJbartekmp: yes we know you are wierd10:08
bartekmpyes??10:09
bartekmpWOW!!!!!10:09
bartekmpI likemasturbating10:09
arsono shit10:09
MuJI bet you do10:09
arsowe guessed ur typing with one hand10:09
bartekmpyes10:09
bartekmporgasm10:10
bartekmpahh10:10
arsowith a donkey10:10
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bartekmpid si lecz skurwysynu10:10
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpid si lecz skurwysynu10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:11
bartekmpfuck you10:12
bartekmporgasm10:12
bartekmpfuck you10:12
bartekmpfuck you10:12
arsosomeone kick him goddamnit10:12
bartekmpfuck you10:12
bartekmpfuck you10:12
anoid`rotf10:12
arsofinally10:12
MuJno need to :)10:12
arsoidiot10:12
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arso "/kick bartekmp OWNED"10:12
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arsoomg10:13
MuJpeer... the greatest hacker alive :)10:13
anoid`no doubt10:13
lafrancelol10:16
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lafrancecant we not invite chanserv to the chanel to monitor ding dong like that ?10:16
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arsolol10:17
arsohey guys is there any video capture software for linux10:17
lafranceyes a few10:18
arsowats the 'best'10:19
arsoor most common10:19
MuJarso: what kind of video do you mean?10:19
MuJlike taking video of what you do with your desktop or trying to capture some video running in mediaplayer ooorrr... what? :910:19
arsoMuJ:  like screenshots, video shots, of the current screen and wats going on10:20
MuJwink is first that comes to mind10:20
arso"like taking video of what you do with your desktop"10:21
arsois it lightweight10:21
MuJwouldn't know that.. never used any of those :P10:21
arsooh ok10:22
arsothnx tho10:22
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freeflying|awayHobbsee: has ever set up printer via samba in kubuntu?10:38
Hobbseefreeflying|away: ah, yep.10:38
freeflying|awayHobbsee: how to do it?10:39
beatrixI have some problems with my printer, model HP 4250 Laser jet10:39
Hobbseefreeflying|away: with the wizard?10:39
freeflying|awayHobbsee: I have tried times, still can't work10:39
Hobbseefreeflying|away: what problem were you having?10:39
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freeflying|awayHobbsee: use kprinter and cups10:39
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Hobbseefreeflying|away: where exactly does it stop working?10:40
beatrixI search in google but i don't find anything10:40
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freeflying|awayHobbsee: every time, it give:/usr/lib/cups/backend/smb failed10:40
beatrixcan you help me?10:41
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Hobbseefreeflying|away: ah.  is cups started?10:41
freeflying|awayHobbsee: y10:41
Hobbseehmmm.  no idea10:41
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WoostaI'm trying to instal ATI proprietory drivers .. it's telling me it can't find libfglrx_pp.so.1.0 .. however that file is sitting quite happily in /usr/lib/fglrx .. do I need to tell the system there's libs in there?10:42
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lafrancenight all10:44
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TehKewl1why doesnt Kubuntu come with gcc10:46
Hobbsee!build-essentials10:48
MuJbecause development tools aren't essential for desktop usage?10:48
ubotuI know nothing about build-essentials - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:48
Hobbsee!build-essential10:48
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:48
Hobbsee!build-essential is <alias> build-essentials10:48
ubotubuild-essential is already known...10:48
Hobbsee!build-essentials is <alias> build-essential10:48
ubotuI'll remember that10:48
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Woosta(sorted)10:50
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Shinjanhi10:56
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larsShinjan: Hi :)10:58
cpk1!mplayer11:00
ubotuNo fonts in mplayer? Try " sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts " ( multiverse must be enabled see !repos ).11:00
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.11:00
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cpk1hmm the wiki says you can apt-get mplayer buti get package isnt available but is referred to by another package11:03
grizzlyA lil silly question. I can't find the package for emacs (terminal mode)11:03
cpk1any tips?11:03
imbrandon_!find emacs11:03
ubotuFound: emacs-goodies-el, emacs21, emacs21-bin-common, emacs21-common, emacs21-el (and 45 others)11:03
imbrandon_** package names11:03
cpk1!find mplayer11:03
ubotuFound: kmplayer-base, kmplayer-doc, kmplayer-konq-plugins, kmplayer, mozilla-mplayer (and 15 others)11:03
grizzlytry aptitude mplayer<tab>11:03
imbrandon_cpk1, you need universe enabled11:04
grizzlyimbrandon: So emacs21 it is ?11:04
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imbrandon_grizzly, looks like it11:04
imbrandon_dunno i dont use emacs11:04
cpk1imbrandon: I have everything that sources.list came with enabled11:04
cpk1grizzly: use vi?11:05
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imbrandon_cpk1, if you cant find mplayer then universe is not enabled11:05
cpk1!repository11:06
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:06
imbrandon_cpk1, you can look at my sources.list http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/sources.list  BRB afk11:07
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arso_!compiling11:10
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:10
arso_ok then goodbye ppl, off to windows (dual boot) to play some games, bye11:10
cpk1imbrandon: I looked at my list more closely, i read over it too fast the first time, the ones I saw with universe and multiverse were backports heh11:11
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n3stormanybody here having weird problems with the jabber server?11:13
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berkesn3storm: what jabber server? In contrary to MSN/yahoo etc, there is not /A/ server, there are thousands of em.11:22
n3stormberkes: the plain jabber server for the jabber protocol11:23
berkesn3storm: you mean the ubuntu package for the server?11:23
n3stormI read lots of tutorials, manuals, forum threads, mail lists11:23
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n3stormberkes: yes11:23
ThrainHello11:23
berkesaah, I thought you meant something like jabber.org :)11:24
n3stormAnd mine doesn't work11:24
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n3stormI't doesn't allow users to autoregister11:24
ThrainI already installed Kubuntu and I really like it... but I've a problem11:24
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Thrainwireless connections with wpa authentication11:24
ThrainI'd like to know if there is some tool to connect to them11:25
ThrainI see that there is a really nice wlassistant to connect to WEP shares11:25
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berkesn3storm: the debian tut helped me a lot http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/4211:25
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Thrainsomething for wpa?11:25
n3stormI think I read that one, but I'll check it again, thanks berkes11:26
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berkesThrain: ther eis no really nice one (IMO) but there is a tool: kwifimanager it lices ni kcontrol.11:26
ricardodoes anybody knows how to automount a FAT32 partition of my HD?11:26
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ricardoor where does kubuntu places it?11:27
berkesricardo: did you try system:/media or media:/11:27
n3stormricardo: check under system settings too11:27
Thrainberkes: thanks11:27
n3stormberkes: nop, it doesn't work11:29
elpayoHello there11:29
berkesn3storm: what do your logs tell you?11:29
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ricardoit is no under media11:29
n3storm20060716T18:57:33: [warn]  (casandra.homelinux.net): xdb_file failed to open file /var/lib/jabber/casandra.homelinux.net/n3storm3.xml: No such file or directory11:30
berkeswell... ;) mkdir /var/lib/jabber/casandra.homelinux.net/ && touch var/lib/jabber/casandra.homelinux.net/n3storm3.xml11:30
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berkesthen make sure their permissions and owers are correct.11:30
ricardoI can see all the partitions but my FAT32 (and also the VISTA XP) are not enabled...11:32
ricardoI try to "modify" but it doesnt do a thing11:32
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n3stormricardo: do you know all the stuff about being administrator with sudo and so?11:34
ricardomost of it I think....11:40
ricardoi have already managed to mount it manually11:40
ricardofor the partition to be automatically loaded i'll try modifying the fstab file11:41
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ricardook....think i got it....11:44
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ricardohave to reboot to test....seya...11:45
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ricardoit worked!!!11:54
ricardoim a happy man now...11:54
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larsHi, anyone else bothered with this? Could not find mime type application/octet-stream12:10
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cpk2!swat12:13
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:13
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dyniojest tu kto?12:33
aegeanlinux_brb12:33
dynioo jest!12:33
dynioa mylaem e to nie dziaa12:33
dyniohave any person a problem with kubuntu and INTEL 915 graphic card?12:34
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ganymedwhy adept removes nvidia-glx when i try to install nvidia-setting ?12:48
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PupenoHow do I bring up the men that appears by clicking on the icon of a window using key shortcuts ?12:55
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thorhello12:58
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ganymedhi12:59
thorhello12:59
darkadmiralanyone Gambas2 packages for dapper?01:00
thorhow are things going here in the kubuntu chat01:00
Riddelldarkadmiral: URL?01:00
darkadmirali need them :D01:00
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thori am quite a newbee to kubuntu and coming from a rpm backgroud doesn't help all that much I know some things but not much at all and i have a couple of questions I was hoping i could get some answers for01:02
Pupenothor: just ask, we'll do our best.01:02
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thorcool thx01:03
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thorIf I install kubuntu 6.1 from the cd and then do a full upgrade via the net what else would I need to do in order to get my01:04
thorsystem  source installed and running for the instalation of 3rd party modules such as Nvidia  and vmware and so on01:04
grizzlyrpm must suck really bad :left:01:05
thorI do not wish to do a hole system rebuild or kernel rebuild but if thats the only and simplest way then so be it01:06
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thorhello01:09
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thorthe world is a lonely place01:10
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grizzlythor: sry, but exactly what do you want to do? I am newish as well01:11
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dillinger#kubuntu-fr01:12
dillingerhello, could someone please help me, i am having trouble trying to make my wifi connection work at bootup time01:13
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jdh6403hello everyone01:14
thorok01:14
thorI have upgrded my freshly installed system01:14
dillingerhello01:14
jdh6403i just installed kubuntu01:14
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dillingeri just installed it too, but cant configure my wifi card to work at bootup01:15
jdh6403how do i get the flash and java plugins installed for firefox01:15
cpk2thor i hope you didnt need help with just that this while time...01:15
dillingerrun adept jdh640301:15
jdh6403ok01:15
cpk2or apt-get01:15
jdh6403just type java?01:15
dillingeryep01:15
dillingeror j2re01:15
dillingeryou'll find it01:15
cpk2i think for the sun java you might need to do sun-java5-bin01:16
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dillingercan someone please tell me how to get my wifi connection to work at bootup time ?01:17
jdh6403well adept says i have java common already installed01:18
|lostbyte|dillinger, man wireless01:18
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cpk2jdh6403: the sun java?01:19
grizzlyjdh6403: I think there was a howto on the forums for java. Try that.01:19
weihello!jre01:19
ubotuI know nothing about jre - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:19
jdh6403i dunno...whatever proggy i need to get java to work with firefox01:19
thornow i would like to install my nvidia drivers and install vmware so I can run windows  (I am a developer and i need to develop on windows one of those unfortunate sercumstances one find one's self in at time but never the less I am trying to find a better way of working and doing what I need to do everyday01:19
weihello!jvm01:19
ubotuI know nothing about jvm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:19
thorfunny'01:19
thorno awnsers just questions01:19
weihello!java01:20
cpk2jdh6403: you probably want sun jave, in a terminal do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin01:20
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository01:20
dillinger|lostbyte|: ok, thx, i'll have a look at it, even tho im not sure it'll help, my wifi connection IS actually working, just can't get it to run at boot time01:20
weihellook01:20
weihellothis is a URL01:20
jdh6403k01:20
dillingerj2re-mozilla-plugin is what you need jdh640301:20
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jdh6403hmmmm01:22
Teejay_wpwhere can I find information to install the extra packages for kubuntu01:22
Teejay_wp?01:22
cpk2jdh6403: after you get the sun jave you will need to make it the default version: sudo update-alternatives --config java01:22
cpk2i keep misspelling java...01:22
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cpk2Teejay_wp:  /etc/apt/sources.list is where the repositories list is if that is what you are asking?01:24
grizzlythor: aptitude search vmware ?01:24
jdh6403this is what konsole told me01:24
jdh6403E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:24
jdh6403E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:24
grizzlyclose adept01:24
jdh6403ohhh01:25
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jdh6403ok01:25
cpk2jdh6403: close adept if you are trying to use aptget01:25
jdh6403ok  duh01:25
jdh6403ty01:25
jdh6403E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin   now it said this01:25
cpk2jdh6403: you have universe and multiverse enabled?01:26
jdh6403i dunno01:26
jdh6403where do i check that01:26
ahihihi, what's the app for checking whether some program is blocking /dev/dsp?01:26
jdh6403im brand new here01:26
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thoruse adapt to find the packeges you wish to install  like java or anyhting thats available from your sources list01:27
thoryou can also enable the univeses and multiverse sources by going to manage repositorys on adapt and right clicking on them01:27
jdh6403ok01:27
thorTeejay_wp in adapt01:27
thoror even synapteck all depends what you using01:27
thorkubuntu comes with adapt so ... one would asume your using it01:27
grizzlyjdh6403: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper01:27
cpk2jdh6403:  /etc/apt/sources.list that is where the repositories list is, you can probably uncomment all the repositories01:27
thorplease explain what is aptitude search01:27
grizzlythor: just type in terminal01:28
jdh6403brb01:28
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cpk2thor: aptitude --help =P01:29
cpk2just lloks for packages by keyword01:29
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thorwhat o I type then01:31
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cpk2to do a search with aptitude? just aptitude search keyword01:32
dillinger|lostbyte|:  allright, i did the modifications they say in the man file. i will reboot to see if it works01:32
cpk2ie: aptitude search nvidia01:32
dillingerthx01:32
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isedeanybody knows a way to use USB TV (ATI) with Kubuntu?01:38
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dillinger|lostbyte|: YOU'RE THE MAN01:38
dillinger;)01:38
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thorok01:39
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cplusplushi01:49
cplusplushow can i mount my external usb harddisk?01:49
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h3sp4wn!mount01:52
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks01:52
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h3sp4wncplusplus: I do - sudo mkdir -p /media/usbdisk - and then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk (presuming its sda1) when I need to use it01:54
cplusplusbut i cant write on a ntfs?01:54
thormount  /dev/sda  /mnt/myUSB01:57
thoryou might need sda1 or sda2 depending on the number of patitions01:57
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thoryes this is true ntfs is protected becouse well it's complicated02:06
thorM$ has a habbit of making stuff uncompatable02:06
thorrather use a ext3,raizer or fat3202:06
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dillingerhi there02:14
aegeanlinuxdillinger: G'day mate!02:14
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dillingercan someone tell me whats the best replacement software on linux for emule ?02:14
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ThunderStruckdillinger: is emule p2p?02:19
ThunderStruckamule - client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule02:20
ThunderStruckdillinger: try amule02:20
ThunderStruckdillinger: also there is xmule02:20
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admin__my ACCRPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 but I want xorg-x11 7.0 (for nvidia)... how do I force a stable set of packages on a testing system ?02:22
dillingerok thx ThunderStruck02:24
admin__<woops> wrong channel :)02:24
dillingeri'll try amule02:24
ThunderStruckyw02:25
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WoostaAnyone tell me where kubuntu sets $PATH globally?02:26
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h3sp4wnWoosta: /etc/environment02:27
Woostata02:27
dillingeri just love kubuntu02:31
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WoostaHeh02:33
thorhow can  I run krusader as root in kubuntu it keeps bombing out i can't even login as root ... help please02:33
aegeanlinuxclick K --> Run Command02:34
aegeanlinuxThen press options02:34
aegeanlinuxtick "Run as different user"02:34
aegeanlinuxthat __should__ do it.02:34
Blizzzhm, there is (was?) a problem under dappper that /root/.kde/cache-<hostname> is not a symbolic link to /var/tmp/kdechace-root but an usual directory.02:36
Blizzzsudo -s02:36
Blizzzcd /root/.kde02:36
Blizzzrmdir cache-<hostname>02:36
Blizzzln -s /var/tmp/kdecache-root cache-<hostname>02:36
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Teejay_wphi02:38
Teejay_wpI am figuring out how to install mp3 support for kubuntu02:38
ThunderStruck!mp302:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:39
WoostaWhere should I get a mysql4.1 package?02:40
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aegeanlinux!mysql02:44
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP02:44
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Sakirethwhat's kubuntu like?02:45
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Sakirethi like KDE and Ubuntu, but...02:45
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Sakirethi already installed XFCE02:45
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WoostaAnyone with a more useful answer than aegeanlinux? I want the mysql4.1 packages, not 5 .. it's deliberate02:46
LjL!info mysql-server-4.102:47
ubotumysql-server-4.1: mysql database server binaries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4.1.15-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 16633 kB, installed size 37224 kB02:47
LjLWoosta: ^02:47
WoostaThanks :)02:47
Gioacchinohello02:48
Gioacchino!it02:48
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:48
markcWoosta> apt-cache search mysql-server-4.102:48
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MilesTEGbonjour02:48
LjLhi02:49
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GioacchinoI have a problem with k3b( cd burning )02:50
Gioacchinoit dont see my scsi cd burner...02:50
Gioacchinobut if I insert a cd  I can  read it..02:51
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Woostamarkc: fyi: that just tells me that 5.0 is available :)02:51
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bob_hello, could anyone help me with setting up my mic on SB Live?02:53
markcWoosta> mine shows the 4.1 server and client, have you got universe and multiverse repos in your sources.ist ?02:53
Sakirethhey, i like KDE and Ubuntu, should i install kubuntu? and if so, how to remove gnome and xfrce?02:53
Sakirethxfce*02:53
HobbseeSakireth: you dont have to remove htem02:54
Woostayeah, once I added universe it was in aptitude :)02:55
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aztunhi02:56
aztunaaaaaaaaaggggggggg I got xgl working on kubuntu but now altGr key failssssss02:57
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markcGioacchino> make sure you the "cdrom" group added to your user ID, and maybe check that the /dev/<cd burner> device is group owned by cdrom03:01
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bob_i have a problem setting up my mic, anyone can help me on this?03:02
grizzlywhat is the equivalent of windows like hibernate in linux?03:02
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markcbob_> I have an sblive and had a mic plugged in a half year ago, I might be able to help, where are you up to ?03:03
MuJyou sure your mic is in right hole? :)03:03
MuJand gain is not at 003:03
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ThaZZaHey All.03:03
bob_markc: i just installed kubuntu 6.06, mic is not working, input tab is missing from kmixer, and i don't have a "mic" entry in alsamixer03:04
Gioacchinomarkc: how to make it ?03:04
bob_markc: whatever capture device i select it says L R CAPTURE in red03:04
markcbob_> do you have an audigy or old sblive ?03:04
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ThaZZaHey All.. Can anyone help me with a permissions issue while mounting a drive?03:05
bob_markc: SB Audigy LS03:05
bob_markc: that's what lspci says03:05
max__Thazza be more specific03:05
markcGioacchino> look for /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrom "ls -l /dev/dvd"... it should already be there as link to (probably) /dev/sda or similar03:05
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ThaZZamax__: Ok.. I am trying to mount a drive using the following command "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /folder03:06
markcbob_> lsmod | grep ca0106 give you snd_ca0106 ?03:06
ThaZZamax__: sorry "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /folder -o users03:07
bob_markc: yep03:07
ThaZZa max__: and only root has access to the share.03:07
bob_markc: snd_ca0106             34212  203:07
jaffa_does anyone know where i can get the Nvidia linux kernel modules because wen after i install my drivers and restart X it says the the modules are incompatible03:08
markc bob_> I've got the same in this box... I'll see if I can find an old mic.. you mean your kmix does not show a mic/line menu on the Switches pane ?03:08
h3sp4wnjaffa_: make sure you have main restricted multiverse universe (after dapper-security in /etc/apt/sources.list)03:08
ThaZZaI think max just left.. can anyone else help me?03:08
ThaZZaI have been hunting google for hours... To no help.03:09
jaffa_ok ill check it out thx03:09
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bob_markc: no, i have that menu in the switches tab. i don't have the input tab to tweak mic input. and i can't find it in alsamixer as well03:09
markcjaffa_> apt-get install nvidia-glx03:10
jaffa_i have those03:10
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markcbob_>  have you twiddled all the output knobs ?03:10
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markcbob_> I read somewhere that we might need alsa 1.0.11 to get the ca0106 module to work right03:11
bob_markc: yep, raised them, lowered etc. i have CAPTURE output knob, is that for mic?03:11
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ThaZZaHello?03:11
markcbob_> alsa 1.0.11 comes with kernel 2.6.17 :-(03:11
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thykowhat happens to older kubuntu repositories when a new version comes out?03:12
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bob_i have alsa 1.0.10-4ubuntu4 and kernel 2.6.15-23-386 :(03:12
bob_markc: i have alsa 1.0.10-4ubuntu4 and kernel 2.6.15-23-386 :(03:13
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ThaZZaHmmm... Not very helpful bunch are you.03:14
MuJThaZZa: what kind of partition is it?03:14
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ThaZZaMuJ: Ext3 i think.03:15
markcbob_> I found an old crappy creative mic and plugged into the blue socket on one end, changed the men dropdown from line to mic and I can hear it working03:15
ThaZZaMuJ: It is detecting it auto, without me specifying.03:15
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bob_markc: what is the selected capture device in the mixer?03:16
jfrcortez#c++03:16
markc bob_> all I have set is analog front 2/3s up (using headphoens) and CAPTIVE feedback abouy 90%03:16
bob_markc: i have: ac97in, spdif in, spdif out, src out, i2s in/out03:17
ThaZZaMuJ: Do you have ideas?03:17
jaffa_Nope it didnt do anything03:17
MuJThaZZa: have you tried putting it in fstab? or do you want it to be always mounted?03:17
markcbob_> I don't have any switches turned on... I'm monitoring out the socket next to the blue one03:17
ThaZZaMuJ: Would prefer if it is not always mounted, due to it a second drive, that is only there for a couple of days03:18
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markcbob_> make sure spdif out is off03:19
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bob_markc: it's muted03:20
MuJThaZZa: well have you tried without the -o switch? Mine works just fine when just typing mount /dev /dir03:20
markcbob_> right... so you have the mic in the blue socket, headphoens or speakers int he socket next to it, and only analog front and captive feedback up ?03:20
jaffa_i have all the restricted modules and evrything it says it needs do i have to make a symbolic link for it or something03:21
markc bob_> that's all I have set... if you have an onboard sound device then make sure kmix or alsamixer is using the ca0106 device03:21
bob_markc: alsamixer says Card: CA010603:22
ThaZZaMuJ: Permission denied.. I think because it is a liunx fs already, and has permissions (old) set, that are not part of my users.03:22
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bob_markc: and when i twek output volume i can hear it03:22
markcbob_> are you hearing any sound anyway, like playing an ogg/mp3 ?03:22
ThaZZaMuJ: This is why the -o users command, from what i have been told.. Allows everyone to read the mount03:22
bob_mark03:23
bob_markc: yes playback works perfectly03:23
MuJThaZZa: try chowning it to you?03:23
markcbob_> ah, so it's working... mine sounds terrible, no control like with an sblive (emu10k1) so I suspect the next alsa drivers will fix this03:23
ThaZZaMuJ: How?03:23
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ThaZZaMuJ: Or you mean mount and then run chown -R myusername03:24
MuJThaZZa: yup.. that should get it working at least03:24
thykowhat happens to older kubuntu repositories when a new version comes out?03:24
ThaZZaMuJ: Then when i put the drive back in the other machine, the permissions will be changed and stuffed.03:24
Lynourethyko: I'd assume they'll stick around until the support period is over03:25
MuJThaZZa: is there some system files then or something like that?03:25
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bob_markc: the capture device is the device where i can hear sound from mic, it doesn't affect recording, right?03:25
ThaZZaMuJ: you would think there was an easy way to mount a drive, and override the permissions.03:26
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MuJThaZZa: there propably is :P03:26
ThaZZaMuJ: No.. A full system dir, with loads of users accounts set, on the other machine. I just need some stuff off it.03:26
MuJThaZZa: how about chrooting to that system?03:27
markcbob_> not sure.. how are you reding ?03:27
MuJand why don't you just move the files as root?03:28
markcrecording03:28
ThaZZaMuJ: Ugly way.03:28
MuJso? it works :)03:28
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bob_markc: i run alsamixer from console, press F4 (capture devices), it lists ac97in, spdif in/out, src out, i2s in/out. i guess it routes output from mic to these devices03:29
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ThaZZaMuJ: This is Linux.. Not windows. there should be a way.03:30
MuJThaZZa: well that IS one way.. I don't see why you refuse to use it03:30
thorhello jaffa03:31
ThaZZaMuJ: 200 Gig of Data.. Is this a good reason why?03:31
MuJThaZZa: that 200 gigs is there no matter what03:31
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MehAdultthor: Stop watching SG103:32
thorjaffa03:32
MehAdult:P03:32
ubuntuhey guys, I have a question... did any of you managed to install BitTorrent 4.20.x or any newer BitTorrent on a Kubuntu AMD64 machine ?03:33
markcbob_> I just did an arecord -f dat test.wav but nothing was recorded03:33
ubuntubecause it needs python-psyco and it is not available for x86_64 platforms....03:33
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robinhi all03:34
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robinhow to get my ATI drivers workinfg?03:34
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Sakireth!ati03:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:35
thorno I love sg103:35
thorand BG and SGA03:35
thormy brother's nick is jaffa03:35
bob_markc: yes i can't record anything too, it writes 44 bytes file03:35
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markcbob_> ah, I just got something recorded when twiddling knobs... have to repeat to see which one made the difference03:37
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SakirethWhat is the difference between the 'ati' and 'radeon' driver?03:38
Gioacchinohelp I have a problem with k3b it dont work with mi scsi controller03:40
thykoone is the mother od the other03:40
thykoof03:40
Gioacchinobut I can read  the cd..03:40
Sakirethwhich one is faster?03:40
SakirethI have an ATI Radeon 9600 XR03:41
SakirethXR*03:41
SakirethXT*03:41
markcbob_> ah!... it's the "i2s in" switch03:41
thorhello03:41
Sakirethso which one is faster?03:42
bob_markc: when i select i2s (or anything else) in capture devices it says L R CAPTURE in red, and i can't tweak level03:42
markcbob_> cool, I can record some music from the foxtel (cable) menu03:43
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markcbob_>  yer right, doesn't seem to be any volume control, just line/mic for input gain03:45
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bob_markc: so i need to select i2s as capture device?03:46
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markcbob_> to rcord, yes... I'm testing with line in03:47
Jack1hi guys sometimes translucency is really annoying if the computer doesnt seem to know which window is focussed and therefore shouldnt be translucent03:47
Gambixhi03:47
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Sakireththen turn it off.03:48
Gambixis there somebody that can tell me if there is a way to know the kde install path in every distrib ?03:48
ThaZZaMuJ: I got it sorted.03:48
MuJThaZZa: nice to hear :)03:49
markcbob_> yep, I just recorded something from my crappy mic... sounds terrible though, no control over gain and popping03:50
ThaZZaMuJ: since it is a existing linux part. i needed a user with the same UID as the files. Yet what i eneded up with was same GID03:50
bob_markc: me too, it's almost non-audible though03:51
Gioacchinoplease help me03:51
Jack1how to configure kwallet that it asks me if it shall  store the passwords( its installe already) but doesnt appear in systray03:51
bob_markc: do you think compiling a new kernel will help?03:51
thorwhats up03:51
markcbob_> so it's not working for you (recording), at all ?03:52
Gioacchinoplease help me03:52
GioacchinoI cnat burn cd with k3b03:52
Gioacchinoit dont see my scsi master03:53
bob_markc: it works now, though the volume is very low03:53
Gioacchinocd burner03:53
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Gioacchinohelp! help help!!!03:54
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Gioacchinok3b dont see my scsi cd burner but see my ide cd reader03:55
markcbob_> same here... here's hoping the alsa 1.0.11 driver is better. I tried compiling a new kernel but I couldn't boot03:55
Gioacchinoif I insert a cd in scsi burner  i can read it03:55
v3ctorGioacchino: did you run k3b setup?03:56
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SakirethHmm.. how to get fglrx? Followed the howto's, but i got the SGI line at the glxinfo thingy. But i did get 3D acceleration03:56
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Gioacchino[15:56]  <v3ctor> Gioacchino: did you run k3b setup? I run star-->multimedia-->k3b03:58
GioacchinoI run start-->multimedia-->k3b03:58
Gioacchinobut it see my ide reader03:58
Gioacchinobut not see my scsi periferals03:58
Gioacchinobut if i insert a cd with fle into scsi burner i can read the file ...03:59
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SakirethHmm.. how to get fglrx? Followed the howto's, but i got the SGI line at the glxinfo thingy. But i did get 3D acceleration04:00
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alexis_bonjour, j'ai un tit bug avec kdesktop, je trouve pas de solution sur le net.04:01
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alexis_le prob est que le dplacement d'icone sur mon bureau dapper/kde laisse des traces...04:01
alexis_je dois rafraichir mon bureau manuellement pour les faire disparaitre..04:01
alexis_3d carte ati avec driver libre (rv280 - pas support avec driver proprio)04:02
alexis_in english, in kubuntu, when in use drag&drop in the desktop, traces doesn't disapear automaticaly04:03
alexis_(traces of the move of icones...)04:03
alexis_and i have to refresh manualy my desktop...04:03
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thorbonjour sorry we understan english here04:04
thorI understand your desperate but help us out we need to understand you04:04
thortry the firegl drivers from ati04:04
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thorwww.ati.com04:04
thorthats your driver  wich drive are you using alexis04:04
bob_markc: new kernel not loading? do yuo have any ideas why?04:05
h3sp4wnget the latest version make sure you generate dapper packages04:05
alexis_m 3d seems work correctly with the free radeon driver..04:05
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alexis_(cube and other games works fine)04:05
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jackalhi :)04:06
ranunculoidhey04:06
h3sp4wnalexis_: What card ?04:06
alexis_my prob is in my desktop..04:06
alexis_rv280 (ati 9250)..04:06
nrdbis it possible to make an installed application impossible to run by certain users, user A can use mozilla but user B can not?04:06
h3sp4wnalexis_: You should be using radeon04:06
alexis_(doesnt work with official ati driver)04:06
alexis_yes.. is it what i do..04:06
ranunculoid!nvidea04:07
ricardohi everybody...i have a weird proble here...04:07
ubotuI know nothing about nvidea - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:07
h3sp4wnalexis_: Have you ever installed fglrx before ?04:07
alexis_my problem is on my desktop (with kdesktop precisely..) (and maybe linked with my graphic card) i guess..04:07
ranunculoidHow do accellerate my nvidea card in kubuntu?04:07
alexis_when i deplace some icones.. traces appears..04:07
ranunculoid!nvidia04:07
alexis_(sorry for my englih.. hum04:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:07
thortry going to system settings and changing some of the settings in your x display option on the hardware tab it should help you . and dont for get to restart the x server04:07
thorh3sp4wn how are you doing today04:08
thoryeah the ati support for linux is shocking at best04:08
ricardomy fat32 partition is properly loaded at startup but not al files are rwx....some are just r-x....04:08
ricardowhy is that and how can i fix it?04:08
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jackali have some probs with my internet connection, icq and irc both working fine, but if i want to access an url via opera it takes sometimes up to 4 minutes ?! when i am at the university there is no problem, only  at home where we connect through a router to the inet. any ideas?04:08
h3sp4wnalexis_: udo dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx04:09
h3sp4wnalexis_: sudo dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx04:09
ricardohere is my fstab line: defaults,rw,user,auto,gid=100,uid=1000,umask=0000,dmask=0000 0 004:09
h3sp4wnalexis_: If you get anything there then you need to remove fglrx because it renames some stuff when it is installed04:09
alexis_i dont use fglrx04:09
alexis_but radeon drivers04:10
alexis_yet i make that04:10
h3sp4wn?04:10
alexis_my 3d is ok..04:10
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alexis_my prob is other..04:10
alexis_(sorry..)04:10
h3sp4wn!fr04:11
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:11
nrdbcan you use the users name in conditions for iptables?04:11
gatekeeperJack1: same with konqueror?04:12
jackalgatekeeper: have no konqueror installed04:13
h3sp4wnnrdb: you have to be root to modify the tables04:13
jackalgatekeeper: but will try it, mom :)04:13
gatekeeperJack1: did you uninstall it?04:13
jackalgatekeeper: yep04:13
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h3sp4wnnrdb: were you going to statically state the different usernames or use a variable ?04:13
ricardomy fat32 partition is properly loaded at startup but not al files are rwx....some are just r-x....04:14
gatekeeperJack1: that will teach you :-)04:14
ricardoanybody help?04:14
Jack1<gatekeeper> yes with konqi04:14
nrdbh3sp4wn: I am at the moment just wondering if it can be done.04:14
gatekeeperJack1: same problem?04:14
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nrdbh3sp4wn: my boss wants me to setup a Linux computer for email at work he doesn't want the workers to be able to surf the internet.04:15
mikearthurdoes anyone have a good guide for compiling my own apt packages from source?04:15
GioacchinoI had run k3b setup04:15
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gatekeepermikearthur: this what you are looking for? http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html04:16
mikearthurnice one, thanks04:17
gatekeepermikearthur: you are welcome :-)04:17
Jack1<gatekeeper>yes u mean with translucency or kwallet04:17
mikearthurwhat would be even better is if kopete wasn't broken :s04:17
Gioacchinov3ctor: i had run k3b setup04:17
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alexis_http://www.alexis.lautre.net/images/screenshot/capture26.png04:18
Gioacchinov3ctor: please tell me in private room04:18
robinOkay i tried everything in the fglrx howto again but i still get NO direct rendering and the string remains 'SGI'04:18
alexis_to seen what i'm trying to say with my bad scolar english..04:18
alexis_about my kdesktop problem04:19
gatekeeperJack1: now you have lost me thought we talking about putting a URL into a browser?04:19
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dr_willisalexis_,  looks like a video driver issue.04:20
ranunculoidI'm following the steps on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia for editing my repos with synaptic only it describes options that aren't in the kubuntu version. Can someone tell me how to manualy edit my sources file to have the same effect?04:21
jackalgatekeeper: that was me :)04:21
dr_willisinstall synaptic ;)04:21
ranunculoidI have installed synaptic04:21
jackalgatekeeper: two persons with simluar names ;-)04:21
ranunculoidThe guide describes options that aren't in the version I installed04:22
dr_williswhat options are you refering to anyway?04:22
alexis_probably in my xorg conf?04:22
gatekeeperooops04:22
dr_willisor use that easysource url - to add all the repos04:22
dr_willis!nvidia-glx04:22
ubotuI know nothing about nvidia-glx - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:22
ranunculoiddr_willis: In the Edit Repository dialog, ensure that the Restricted copyright box is checked, then press OK04:22
dr_willisranunculoid,  what version of ubuntu you using? thats in dapper release04:22
ranunculoidkubuntu04:22
ranunculoidI'm using kubuntu04:23
dr_willisactually thats un the "add/remove programs" dialog tool. Not synaptic i recall04:23
ranunculoid6.0604:23
dr_willisso go to the K menu and ryn that add/remove tool :)04:23
dr_willisand yes - they are getting way too many ways to do that same thing.04:23
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ranunculoidCan you tell me how to do that step by manually editing /etc/source.list?04:23
dr_willis!easysource04:24
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:24
dr_willisenable all the sources for multiverse and universe, thats what those check box's do.04:24
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jackalgatekeeper: konqueror doesnt solved the prob..guess it has something to do with the dns04:24
dr_willisits getting to be where 'user friendly' is just hiding more things. :(04:24
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jackalhm, cya :)04:26
dr_willisbascially you edit the sources.list and use              sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-*DEPENDSOnYourKernel*04:27
ranunculoiddr_willis: I'm lost on that page sorry. I dont see any muklti/universe checkboxes04:27
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dr_willisranunculoid,  the Multiverse/unuverse IS the 'restricted/comercial' checkbox's -  they just decided to change the names to make it more user friendly. (and confuseing)04:27
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jaffa_Thor good thing i made a back of my xorg.conf :p04:28
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dr_willisAlways backup ya xorg.conf :P04:28
h3sp4wndr_willis: The fact that the versions of ffmpeg etc are crippled is annoying - usefriendly means friendly for all users04:28
dr_willisi keep dated-archive copies of them for all my machines.04:28
ranunculoidOh, ok. I already enabled the multiverse thingy04:28
Kwukkihi04:28
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Kwukkihow can i set a boot pass with  grub?04:28
dr_willish3sp4wn,  not friendly for the doc writers. :P they got to  look out for all these trivial facelift changes.04:28
jaffa_Thor you here??04:28
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Kwukkifor all my os'es04:29
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dr_willisKwukki,  grub has that feature. check the grub  menu.lst file - i think it mentions how. or the online grub docs should give examples.04:29
h3sp4wndr_willis: I would rather have the program to work as closely as possible to the documentation on the programs website04:29
dr_willisdont forget your password.04:29
ranunculoiddr_willis: My kernel is: 2.6.15-26-386. So would the command be sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386?04:29
dr_willish3sp4wn,  yep. I dont even know where that "add/remove" programs item comes from.04:29
dr_willis!info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-38604:30
ubotulinux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386: Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 7946 kB, installed size 21580 kB04:30
h3sp4wn!info nvidia-xconfig04:30
ubotunvidia-xconfig: The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0+20051122-2 (dapper), package size 54 kB, installed size 184 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)04:30
dr_willis:) yep. looks like it.04:30
Kwukkidr_willis : i did it, but mymachine boots normally :-s04:30
dr_willisKwukki,  i would have to guess ya missed a step. :)04:30
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Kwukkino04:30
h3sp4wninstall nvidia-xconfig as well that is the easiest way to install it04:30
gatekeeperranunculoid: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_change_GRUB_menu_password_if_forgotten04:30
dr_willisKwukki,  or its a password just to alter the grub configs04:30
dr_willisI cant recall ever seeing a password just to BOOT the machine.04:30
dr_willisthat would have to be a Bios thing i think. to be totally secure.04:31
ranunculoidIs there a chance that installing this nvidea stuff will break my system?04:31
LjLdr_willis: except one could just remove the cmos battery...04:31
dr_willisranunculoid,  i use it all the time. no hassles.04:31
ranunculoidcool04:31
jaffa_Hey guyz im still having problems with the Nvidia drivers04:31
dr_willisLjL,  one could just remove the hd and put it in a different machine also. :)04:31
LjLdr_willis: yup04:31
dr_willisone could just put thermite on the cpu. :)04:32
ranunculoidlol04:32
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h3sp4wnjaffa_: install nvidia-xconfig - and run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'04:32
LjLwell one thing is *destroying* a computer, and one thing is *getting data* from it04:32
LjLbest way to prevent people getting data from it is using encryption04:32
dr_willis'theres being paranoid, then theres being not paranoid enough' :)04:32
LjLpasswords just won't cut it04:32
jaffa_thanx ill try04:32
h3sp4wnOnly terrorists / criminals and banks need insane levels of security04:33
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gatekeeperdr_willis: so far I have bottled out of installing the nvidia drivers, figured if I wasn't running games and all that no need to, everything seems fine so 'if it ain't broke I don't fix it' :-)04:33
h3sp4wngatekeeper: If you enable composite the screen looks alot clearer04:33
dr_willisgatekeeper,  if ya dont do games,, and dont care for fancy 3d effects/screen savers its no big deal..04:33
dr_willisgatekeeper,  ive installed them so many times - its about a 3 min setup.04:34
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LjLh3sp4wn: "insane" as in "i don't want to invite my friends for a party and while i'm somewhere else have someone boot my box into root and read the very stuff i'd last ever want them to"?04:34
gatekeeperh3sp4wn: screen looks fine as is04:34
h3sp4wnLjL: My friends wouldn't do that I don't think (or I don't have any of that type of stuff)04:34
ranunculoidHave they fixed Amarok/amarok-xine yet or can does it still have that bug where it cant play flac files?04:35
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h3sp4wngatekeeper: Hard to explain it looks alot sharper (if you are using dvi on an lcd)04:35
gatekeeperdr_willis: well it looked as if I messed up X wouldn't start so decided not to go there, having said that I do have a system backup if all else fails04:35
dr_willisgatekeeper,  it pays to learn the fundamentals. :P04:36
LjLh3sp4wn: that your friends wouldn't is your own luck, but saying certain levels of security are "insane" in general is another thing. and the "type of stuff" could simply be mail or chat logs that talk about them, say.04:36
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LjLor that i consider private anyway04:36
dr_williscould cheat and use  that 'easy ubuntu' script - but last i used it - it needed a little work04:36
jaffa_what should i do if this doesnt work wen i reboot the system boots but as it gets to the login screen it stops so then i login via konsole and type startx then it tells me that my  kernel module is different to X module 717 sumtin as to 876204:36
dr_willis!easyubuntu04:36
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.04:36
jaffa_what should i do if this doesnt work wen i reboot the system boots but as it gets to the login screen it stops so then i login via konsole and type startx then it tells me that my  kernel module is different to X module 717 sumtin as to 876204:36
Gioacchino!k3b04:37
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto04:37
gatekeeperh3sp4wn: you may well be right, may be I will have a go sometime04:37
ranunculoiddr_willis: nvidea-glx is installed. Do I have to restart X or reboot for it to take effect?04:37
Gioacchino!scsi04:37
ubotuI know nothing about scsi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:37
dr_willisyou have to restart X - with alt-ctrl-backspace or similer..04:37
ranunculoidk04:37
jaffa_what should i do if this doesnt work wen i reboot the system boots but as it gets to the login screen it stops so then i login via konsole and type startx then it tells me that my  kernel module is different to X module 717 sumtin as to 876204:37
dr_willisthat will totally kill off X and make it restart/back to the kdm login04:37
dr_willisjaffa_,  you installed the drivers from the nvidia site?04:37
jaffa_yes04:37
jaffa_876204:38
dr_willisuse the drivers from the repo - is the easy way.. but they are not as up to date.. otherwise you got to recompile some things I think.04:38
dr_willisthe version diff's dont matter to me at all.. so i use the repo versions.04:38
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gatekeeperdr_willis: got a reasonable grasp of linux now, and it improves seeing how peoples problems get solved in hear. My next little project when summer is done is to install Gentoo, looks like that might get me out of the distro update cycle, can just update continually as I go along04:39
dr_willisI messed with gentoo for a long time.. it has its own 'quirks'04:39
jaffa_ok but i did this before on mepis and it worked fine explain that please??04:40
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dr_willisjaffa_,  go ask the mepis people.. i tried that disrto for about a week.. and it had other issues.. could be they made some fancy installer scripts that just did the compiling for ya.04:40
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dr_willisI dident see much else mepis offered - then easy setting up of the drivers/multi monitor displays/04:41
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gatekeeperdr_willis: I shall test it out on my test box before commiting to this one04:41
dr_willisgatekeeper,  yea - gentoo is a love it/hate it thing in many ways.04:42
gatekeeperdr_willis: have to see which way I jump :-)04:42
dr_willisgatekeeper,  you will do both at the same time.04:42
dr_willisGentoos portage ystem is neat and nice in ways.. and such a pain in others. :)04:43
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gatekeeperdr_willis: ok, length of compiling and installing concerns me a bit, don't understand why compiling a window manager like KDE or GNOME should many hours, which from what I have heard seems to the case04:44
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dr_willisgatekeeper,  lots of littel things gettting compiled.04:46
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v3ctorlots of dependencies04:46
dr_willisthat distcc lets ya spread the work out to other pcs on the networkl04:46
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Sakirethi like kubuntu more than ubuntu,04:47
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gatekeeperdr_willis: have to investigate that as the test box is only a P304:47
dr_willisgatekeeper,  Ugh.04:48
dr_willisI dont think Gentoo will be good for you then.04:48
jaffa_hows about a link for the repo drivers04:48
v3ctorthe reason i won't use it is because i know some of the developers04:49
gatekeeperdr_willis: what do you reckon is the minimum for gentoo, this one is Athlon XP2200+04:49
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dr_willisgatekeeper,  ya could run it on very little hardware.. just getting it all installed can be a weeklong process.04:50
dr_willis:)04:50
v3ctortook me about 90 hours to get a "useable" system on a 370MHz box04:52
gatekeeperdr_willis: sounds like I will have to find a way of connecting to the network in another part of the house, otherwise I won't get any sleep04:52
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h3sp4wngatekeeper: You can use packages with gentoo - or setup dist-cc and get the compiling done on a faster box04:54
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R1CHARDgood day04:57
R1CHARDhttp://www.elcomercioperu.com.pe/EdicionOnline/Html/2006-07-18/onlPortada0542459.html04:57
Harmentalhi everybody...wich encoding should i use for files to be compatible with windows generated files?04:57
gatekeeperv3ctor: dr_willis h3sp4wn will be an adventure, I love kubuntu the only thing that I have worries over is when you upgrade to the next version, done it a couple of times and had odd little issues, nothing I couldn't fix, but just find it slightly off putting if it's going to be my main box04:58
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h3sp4wngatekeeper: Do you have 2 boxes or 1 ?04:58
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LjL... de windows 98? ...04:59
dr_willisI always keep /home on its own partition - and just do a clean reinstall.04:59
gatekeeperh3sp4wn: 2, little P3 test box, and main Atlon XP2200+ box04:59
h3sp4wngatekeeper: Which one is going to get gentoo ?04:59
gatekeeperAthlon XP2200+ even ooopa05:00
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dr_willistheres used to be some Gentoo Live cd's with Distcc.. so ya could make a Lan be a Distcc Helper Uber-network :) for faster installs..05:00
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gatekeeperh3sp4wn: test box to start with, once I have learnt all I need to know and happy, and decide I want it as my main distro it will go on my main box05:00
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h3sp4wngatekeeper: Setup dist-cc on kubuntu then05:01
h3sp4wngatekeeper: Then you can compile everything on the other box it will be alot faster05:01
gatekeeperh3sp4wn: ok I will do that05:02
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dr_willisproblem with distcc - is that you got to have all the versions identical for the tools (I think)05:02
dr_willisgcc/distcc may be a little nicer in that area now.05:02
h3sp4wngatekeeper: Maybe install a chroot of gentoo under kubuntu05:03
h3sp4wngatekeeper: Then dist-cc05:03
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dr_willisvmware :)05:03
dr_willisbut then ya got 2 installs to do.05:03
dr_willisthere are some prebuild gentoo installer-disrtos out i think.05:04
gatekeeperh3sp4wn: I have certainly got the room05:04
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h3sp4wngatekeeper: The time you would save would make it worth it I think05:04
gatekeeperdr_willis: h3sp4wn thank you very much for your helpfull suggestions much appreciated :-)05:05
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calvinhow can i configure a network called on an already installed system?05:06
h3sp4wncalvin: wireless or wired /05:07
dr_willis!networkmanager05:07
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager05:07
calvinh3sp4wn: wired05:07
calvindoes that come installed standard?05:08
h3sp4wncalvin: /etc/network/interfaces05:08
gatekeepertime to go catch you all latter05:08
calvinh3sp4wn: ive tried adding a static entry there, but no go.05:08
h3sp4wncalvin: man interfaces (really easy to understand for wired interfaces)05:09
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calvinh3sp4wn: yeah ive read it. i added a line 'iface eth0 inet static' with entries 'address' and 'netmask'05:10
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calvinbut its unable to ping the gateway.05:10
h3sp4wncalvin: gateway 192.168.1.105:10
v3ctordid you bring interface up after addingf the lines?05:11
calvinthere is an actual gateway entry in the eth0 entry?05:11
calvinv3ctor: yeah i tried05:11
calvinlet me try it again..05:12
v3ctorifup eth005:12
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Lord_AthurI was trying to validate my OpenPGP key, the launchpad page says that I'd have to descrypt a msn with my key in order to validate, how do I do it?05:13
calvinhow do i manually bring the interface up?05:13
calvinifup ?05:13
v3ctorifup eth005:13
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calvinyeah i still cant even ping my router05:15
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v3ctorifconfig05:15
v3ctorsee if your interface is configured05:16
ironfroggyyeah looks normal.05:16
ironfroggyTX and RX are Transmitted and Received, respectively, right?05:16
dr_willisyep05:16
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ironfroggyso should i consider it weird to see any TX bytes if i seem to have no connection?05:17
nixternalnope..cuz of loopback05:18
ironfroggyno i mean on eth0, not on the lo interface05:18
nixternaleven if you unplug the cat5 cable, your network card will always transmit a bit and byte here or there05:18
ironfroggyo ok05:18
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Bernard1Hello les linuxiens :o) ... Je vais passer a Linux et voudrais savoir o je pourrais trouver un comparatif, un tableau Linux / Windows, merci d'avance :o)05:18
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v3ctor!fr05:19
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:19
nixternalespecially if you have a "wake on lan" configuration at all, but all tcp/ip nics will transmit "dummy" packets05:19
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ironfroggyok um, attempting to run dhclient, my router receives the request, and creates a lease for the box, but the box times out and says it never received the request.05:20
Garnolhi i bought a wireless card from Sitecom and on the Sitecom site there are just drivers for MAC and Windows.... can i find linux drivers on other sites ??05:20
ironfroggyi only have this trouble on the one box.05:20
v3ctorGarnol: you need to determine the chipset the card uses05:21
Garnoloh ... where can i read this form ??05:21
ironfroggythink i should try a different NIC?05:22
Garnol?05:22
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nixternalGarnol: what is the make and model of the card?05:24
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Garnola PCI 54g ... 2.4GHz05:25
ironfroggyi seem to not be able to shutdown05:25
ironfroggyits not even unmounting root05:25
ironfroggyit stops some services and drops me back at my prompt when i do 'shutdown now'05:25
nixternalthat is odd05:26
nixternalwhich version of Kubuntu are you using?05:26
Garnolme ?05:26
nixternalGarnol: i mean, is it a Linksys model# 343048 or?05:26
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nixternalno that was for ironfroggy05:26
ironfroggynixternal: 6.06 i think? i just downloaded and installed it last night.05:26
nixternalok..cool05:27
ironfroggyok i just forced it with init 005:27
nixternalthat always works ;)05:27
ironfroggybut also odd is that it wouldnt accept 'shutdown -P now'05:27
nixternaldoes it do taht everytime though?05:27
ironfroggyisnt that correct usage?05:27
ironfroggynixternal: yeah i tried the shutdown command like 5 times.05:28
nixternalhmm05:28
h3sp4wnironfroggy: Using fglrx ?05:28
nixternalya that is the correct usage05:28
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h3sp4wn /me is no longer fortunately05:28
nixternalhehe05:29
h3sp4wnThe very latest drivers were quite alot better - hung on shutdown alot less frequently05:29
nixternali have a radeon 9800 and it runs glxgears worse then my nvidia gf4 mx 44005:29
nixternalmine doesn't hang on shutdown, however im not using binaries05:29
ironfroggyh3sp4wn: what is fglrx?05:29
nixternalradeon drivers05:29
h3sp4wnbinary ati drivers05:29
ironfroggywhat do i need to install for translucency to work?05:31
Bernard1bon apm :o)05:31
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ironfroggyyay i got a successfuly dhcp lease, but i got an error that /etc/resolv.conf is missing, but do i need that?05:33
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ironfroggyi just did 'apt-cdrom add' so i could get the kubuntu-desktop stuff, and after doing that, it cant seem to find the package, like its _only_ using the cd05:36
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ironfroggyso how do i remove the cd then?05:37
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v33hi, I just installed kubuntu 6.06 on my thinkpad t21 but x won't load... It worked fine out of the box with ubuntu 5.1005:42
v33is there any known problem?05:42
ironfroggyis there some way to manually refresh the list of packages?05:42
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wilfredH!dvd05:43
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:43
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|lostbyte|ironfroggy, refresh ?05:45
ironfroggy|lostbyte|: well, for some reason after i tried to add the install CD as a source for packages, it lost all the kubuntu stuff05:46
ironfroggynow it cant find kubuntu-desktop05:46
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ironfroggymy only guess is that i should somehow refresh the cache of package listings to fix this.05:47
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ranunculoidEmm... I installed nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386. And typed "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable". But I got an error:-/05:48
ranunculoidError: your X configuration has been altered.05:49
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ranunculoidThis script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this05:49
ranunculoidnot correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following05:49
ranunculoidcommand:05:49
ranunculoidmd5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum05:49
ranunculoidotherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section05:49
ranunculoidfrom nv to nvidia.05:49
tony__can someone tell me why i get this error when copying some files? cp: omitting directory `/media/hdb1/apache/htdocs'05:49
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ironfroggyi tried a 'apt-cdrom add' and now a bunch of packages are no long available. what can i do to remedy this situation?05:50
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Garnolwho can i ask with a Wlan driver setup problem ?06:01
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HawkwindGarnol: Just ask.  If someone knows the answer then they will probably help you06:01
Garnoli have a probelm i dont know how to install the drivers of my Wlan card... ive got one with a RT2500 chipset06:02
Garnoli downloaded this drivers: RT2500-Linux-STA-1.4.6.406:02
ranunculoidHas anybody here successfully installed nvidea drivers on their kubuntu box?06:03
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Hawkwindranunculoid: Yes06:04
ranunculoidOk. I'm having trouble...06:04
ranunculoidIt hangs when starting X06:04
ranunculoidI had to go into CLI mode and use my xorg.backup file06:04
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Garnolok... Hawkwind... where can i ask ? is there a other channel where i can ask ??06:04
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HawkwindGarnol: Just have patience.  Someone that knows will be around soon enough to help06:05
HawkwindGarnol: Though have you looked at using ndiswrapper ?06:05
Hawkwindranunculoid: Did you edit your xorg.conf file originally and everything ?06:05
Hawkwindranunculoid: There is a wiki page that tells you how to install the drivers.  Works every time for me atleast06:05
mute_dd06:06
ranunculoidI followed it but it didn't work:(06:06
ranunculoid!nvidia06:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:06
ranunculoid^^That one?06:06
HawkwindThat's the one I use and it never fails06:06
ranunculoidThat's the one that wont work for me:(06:06
Garnolwhat do you mean Hawkwind with ndiswrapper.... whats that ??06:07
Garnolim a newbee06:07
Hawkwind!ndiswrapper06:07
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper06:07
ranunculoidndiswrapper is for using windows drivers on linux06:07
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h3sp4wnMake sure you use the tested driver for your card if you don't want stability problems with ndiswrapper (I would also use 1.21)06:09
abattoirGarnol: you already have downloaded a driver? what is the full name of the file?06:10
GarnolRT2500-Linux-STA-1.4.6.406:10
abattoirGarnol: can you point me to the site where you downloaded it from?06:10
abattoirif, you did that06:10
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Garnoloh i have to search this site again :(06:11
ranunculoidHawkwind: "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" <-- That's the step that fucks it up. Here http://pastebin.ca/9140606:11
h3sp4wnGarnol: For ralink ndiswrapper maybe better than the native drivers - http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2x00-cvs-daily.tar.gz seems to work the best for me however06:11
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abattoirGarnol: because we have to determine what sort of a file it is, and then install it accordingly06:12
Garnolok06:12
Hawkwindranunculoid: I never had to do that as far as I remember.  Also, easy on the language06:12
ranunculoidSorry06:12
h3sp4wnranunculoid: use sudo nvidia-xconfig (works better for me)06:12
h3sp4wnranunculoid: sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig06:13
ironfroggy"Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop" is what i get when i try to install the package on a machine ive recently done a server installation on.06:13
h3sp4wnranunculoid: Then sudo nvidia-xconfig (works everytime for me)06:13
ranunculoidOk I did that06:14
ironfroggyi have not removed any repositories in sources.list06:14
ranunculoidShall I restart X now?06:14
abattoirGarnol: brb06:14
Garnolhttp://www.ralinktech.com.tw/supp-1.htm. thats the site i downloaded the driver06:14
h3sp4wnGarnol:06:14
h3sp4wnI don't think those drivers work very well06:15
Hawkwindironfroggy: Did you enable universe and multiverse ?06:15
h3sp4wnAnd they definately don't work with knetworkmanager06:15
ironfroggyHawkwind: no, but kubuntu-desktop isnt in there is it?06:15
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abattoirGarnol: i get a 404 error06:16
Hawkwindironfroggy: I believe you have to enable them.  I could be wrong06:16
Hawkwind!multiverse06:16
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:16
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Garnolhm ok06:16
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Hawkwindserenity: Ackkkkkkk, don't display that stuff06:16
ironfroggyHawkwind: the thing is, kubuntu-desktop was available before, but then i did a 'apt-cdrom add' and now its just gone.06:16
abattoirGarnol: going by what h3sp4wn says, then i guess its better to use ndiswrapper06:17
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Hawkwindironfroggy: Doesn't that make it to where it looks for the CD for the files ?06:17
h3sp4wnI would (do) use http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2x00-cvs-daily.tar.gz06:17
Hawkwindironfroggy: I'd look at your sources.list and see what's commented out and what isn't06:17
Jazonhi everyone.  i cannot figure out how to get acpi / powermanagement working for my laptop (NEC i-Select).  I would appreciate any help06:18
_tomgot my modem recognized, and it dials, but won't log in.  could someone help me find out what is misconfigured?06:18
h3sp4wnGarnol: Are you certain its not working already if you have an ralink card (at least badly)06:18
ironfroggyHawkwind: nothing is commented out. dapper, dapper-updates, and dapper-security are all uncommented.06:19
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Hawkwindironfroggy: So try adding universe and multiverse and see what happens06:19
h3sp4wnironfroggy: Do you have restricted and multiverse for dapper-security06:19
ironfroggyHawkwind: nothing06:20
v3ctorwhat url are they using?06:20
Hawkwindironfroggy: Look at the page ubotu posted above and follow it. Surely you're missing something06:20
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gemidjyhow do I get rid of the default setting that's openning a tab in Konqueror (Dapper/Drake)06:22
v3ctorkonqueror > setting > configure konqueror > web behavior06:23
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_tomanyone here online with a modem?06:24
ranunculoidh3sp4wn: That also caused X to hang (but in a slightly different way)06:24
ironfroggyive read all the repo stuff but i really doubt its a repo issue06:25
ironfroggyi mean, im getting other packages from the same repo06:25
gemidjyv3ctor: that is not what I need, one tab is always opened even if I browse only one URL06:25
gemidjythere was a setting about this while using Slack, it might be Kubuntu's team that moved somewhere else that settings06:26
cox377i;m trying to run an application and it just says error, can't execute GKSUDO06:26
lafrancegood morngood morning afternoon evening all06:26
v3ctoryes it is06:26
ranunculoidsalut la france06:26
v3ctorhide tab bar when only one tab is ipen06:26
v3ctoropen*06:26
h3sp4wnranunculoid: I just install them manually every time06:27
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ranunculoidWhere can I find out how to do that h3sp4wn?06:27
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h3sp4wnranunculoid: I just followed the documentation from nvidia.com06:28
v3ctorgemidjy: np06:28
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ranunculoidok. I'll do that06:28
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jontecI need help with wine.06:28
jontecI downloaded it with adept06:28
jontecbut it's not showing up, is there anything else that I need to do?06:29
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encerhi06:29
cox377h3sp4wn: i;m trying to run an app and it giving me an error that it can't execute GKSUDO.. u got any ideAS?06:30
v3ctorjontec: not showing up where?06:30
jontecin the K menu06:30
abattoircox377: try kdesu instead06:30
v3ctorjontec: it won't06:30
cox377i'm not trying to launch gksudo06:30
cox377i'm tyring to launch ndiswrapper06:31
jontecnope06:31
h3sp4wncox377: ????06:31
abattoircox377: sudo ndiswrapper would do then06:31
cox377i try and run ndiswraper and it tells me that gksudo cannot be found06:31
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_tomso no one here has a modem?06:33
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doppelganger_man...  wth..  i can't install kubuntu from the live cd on this machine at work06:35
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doppelganger_i click install on the desktop, it bounces like it's trying, then goes away06:35
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doppelganger_same cd i used at home, zero scratches..  =\06:35
abattoirdoppelganger_: try it on the CLI06:36
doppelganger_cli?06:36
h3sp4wnGarol: http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz06:36
doppelganger_!cli06:36
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:36
abattoirdoppelganger_: 'sudo ubiquity'06:36
h3sp4wnGarol: Find out which chipset it is and I may have alook at in about 15 mins06:36
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tony_can someone help me move some files?06:36
doppelganger_will try, brb06:36
abattoirdoppelganger_: 'sudo ubiquity kde-ui' if the former doesnt work06:36
doppelganger_nvm, it came up, now that i switched back and looked at it06:37
doppelganger_but it took a good few minutes06:37
doppelganger_weird06:37
tony_anyone know how to move a bunch of files in the command line?06:37
doppelganger_it's a 2.4ghz, but..  whatever, it works  ;)06:37
abattoirdoppelganger_: it takes time... i thought you had waited long enough ')06:37
abattoir;)06:37
doppelganger_thought i had too, lol06:37
doppelganger_thanks aba  =)06:37
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tony_anyone know how to copy a bunch of files?06:38
abattoirtony_: mv is the cmd. see 'man mv' for more info06:39
Hawkwindtony_: cp is one way06:39
Hawkwindmv won't copy them though so be careful with that06:39
tony_i used cp but it only copies the directory, not the files in it06:39
Hawkwindtony_: cp -a /directory06:39
tony_i just want the files moved to my www folder, not the whole directory06:39
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tony_ok, thanks, i'll try it06:39
jontecI don't know how to get wine to run/06:40
abattoirjontec: 'wine' on the cli?06:40
tony_i get "cp: `/var/www/htdocs' and `/var/www/htdocs' are the same file" when it knows good and well i'm not that stupid06:41
abattoirjontec: you might want to try xwine / winex06:41
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tony_i'm trying to copy all the contents of htdocs up to my www directory06:41
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abattoir!info xwine06:42
ubotuPackage xwine does not exist in dapper06:42
abattoir!info winex06:42
ubotuPackage winex does not exist in dapper06:42
jontecwhat do you mean by cli?06:42
abattoir!cli06:43
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:43
tony_ubotu, you're one smart chap, htf do i do it?06:43
ubotuI know nothing about you're one smart chap, htf do i do it? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:43
tony_you da man06:43
abattoirlol06:43
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Hawkwindtony_: Easiest way is to cd to the /var/www/htdocs directory and then type: cp -a * ..06:44
Hawkwindtony_: That will take all the contenst of the htdocs directory and move them up one directory which would be /var/www/06:45
tony_i leave in the ..'s06:45
jontecwell, I have the wine package from the dapper repository downloaded, but how do I actually use it?06:45
Hawkwindtony_: cp -a * ..06:45
HawkwindJust like that06:45
arsoany body into digital photography here?06:45
abattoirjontec: wine file.exe on the cli06:46
jontecokay, gotcha06:46
tony_i keep getting permission denied. what's the default root password?06:47
tony_i used to know but i forgot. i need to change it06:47
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abattoirtony_: prefix 'sudo' to the command, and enter your user password06:48
tony_i do but it won't accept the password yet i've used to plenty today for root stuff06:49
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tony_i'm having a hell of a time. my windows partition is giving me trouble, my past ubuntu partition, and now my new one06:50
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doppelganger_is there free virtual machine software like vmware out there?06:51
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abattoirdoppelganger_: qemu06:51
abattoir!qemu06:51
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo06:51
Hawkwinddoppelganger_: vmware has a free version06:51
abattoir!info qemu06:51
ubotuqemu: fast processor emulator. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)06:51
Hawkwindvmware-server IIRC it's called06:51
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doppelganger_oh ok. Well someone last night told me it was a pay for, so i was like screw that06:52
tony_anyone know how to change the root password? google is f'ing with me and making my characters chinese or something06:52
gnomefreakHawkwind: free = vmware-server ;)06:52
abattoirdoppelganger_: you can also use the vmware player, but it does not create images(but you can use qemu to create them, and then use vmware)06:52
n3stormsudo passwd root06:52
Hawkwindgnomefreak: I thought that was it but wasn't quite sure06:53
doppelganger_does networking in windows somehow translate and work through linux as well?06:53
doppelganger_just, so i know06:53
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doppelganger_if not, there's no point for me06:53
doppelganger_through the emulator, i mean06:53
doppelganger_=P06:53
jontecokay, I have an error with wine:06:53
jontecApplication tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.06:53
jontecMake sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.06:53
doppelganger_jontec- run command "winecfg"06:54
doppelganger_er06:54
doppelganger_nvm06:54
doppelganger_read that wrong06:54
tony_that got it, for some reason i had to change the root password06:54
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tony_anyone know an alternative to "  --ignore-fail-on-non-empty" i don't have all f'ing day to keep typing that anytime i need it06:57
ranunculoidh3sp4wn: It didn't work. There's no version for my kernel :(06:58
ranunculoidHere's the log06:58
ranunculoidhttp://pastebin.ca/9144806:58
h3sp4wnranunculoid: Install build-essential and linux-headers-38606:59
jonteccan anyoen help with my wine problem?06:59
jontecanyone*06:59
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ranunculoidjontec: Tell us the problem and we'll see if we can help you07:00
Harmentaldoes anybody knows if there is a known issue with kernel 24, 24, 26 regarding pcmcia wifi cards (i have DLINK DWL G650)?07:00
jontecI just installed wine07:00
Harmentalkernel 23 works just fine...07:00
jontecand I'm trying to run an application07:00
jontecbut I get the error:07:01
jontecApplication tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.07:01
jontecMake sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.07:01
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Hawkwindjontec: Have you joined #WineHQ and asked those guys there since they are the experts ?  Might get a bit more help there07:01
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jontecjust what I was about to do, lol07:01
ranunculoidHmmm.. Does this happen with every aplication you try to launch in WINE or just one?07:01
GioacchinoI had resolv the problem07:02
jontecI tried launching two different apps07:02
jontecbut there were essentially the same07:02
Gioacchinothe version  in kubuntu pacage of k3b is a old version with a bug with scsi07:02
jontecthey*07:02
Harmentaldo I have to recompile drivers with new kernel?07:02
ranunculoidAs Hawkwind said, #WineHQ is the place to go jontec07:02
Gioacchinoi had download the source code on www.keb.org of  new version and i install it07:03
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ajayc|apokryphos|: yo!!!07:04
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Gioacchinohem www.k3b.org07:05
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lafranceis there a deb distro for kerri beagle ?07:11
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Wolfpawhi there....again07:12
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Wolfpawuhm...Ash-Fox?07:12
Ash-FoxWolfpaw, yes?07:12
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WolfpawI tried to get my wlan to work with the assistant....but the assistant didnt work07:13
Ash-Foxdid it detect the network?07:13
Wolfpawnope07:13
Ash-Foxtry hitting refresh07:13
WolfpawI tried all the time...then I phoned a friend who is a bit more comfortable with linux07:14
Wolfpawhe told me to type something like ifconfig -r07:14
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WolfpawI think this was the command07:14
Wolfpawand we discovered that the routing didnt work07:14
Ash-Foxuhm, routing doesn't matter if you can't detect networks.07:15
WolfpawI dont know if this routing thing is a package which has to be loaded07:15
Ash-FoxYou need to be connected to a network to be able to even use the routing.07:15
Wolfpawbut however....I found a link http://acx100.sourceforge.net/matrix.html#sitecom07:15
Ash-FoxYou need to be connected to a network to be able to even use the routing.07:15
Wolfpawok, I have a longshine card with the tnetw1130....but there is no longshinecard listet07:16
Wolfpawwith this chipset07:16
Ash-FoxYou need to be connected to a network to be able to even use the routing.07:16
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Wolfpawmaybe my card will work with a driver for another card?07:17
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Ash-FoxWolfpaw, what channel is your router on?07:17
Wolfpaw1307:17
Ash-Foxokay, that's your countrycode07:17
Wolfpaw?07:17
Ash-FoxWolfpaw, what country are you in?07:17
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Wolfpawgermany07:18
Ash-FoxOkay, just a sec, let me retrieve the countrycode. The issue is really simple, your card thinks it's in America, so it will only communicate with channels upto 11 :)07:18
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Wolfpawhmm....in windows it works fine ^^07:18
h3sp4wncountrycode for germany is 276 (if I remember correctly)07:18
Wolfpawis this a kubuntu problem?07:19
Ash-FoxWolfpaw, no, this isn't a kubuntu problem. give me am oment07:19
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Wolfpawok07:20
Ash-FoxWolfpaw, okay, type 'sudo rmmod ath_pci' after type 'sudo modprobe ath_pci countrycode=276'07:20
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Wolfpawuhm....I have to reboot my computer to do that....could you give me a complete description of what I have to do?07:21
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Ash-FoxWolfpaw, open up a terminal and type 'sudo rmmod ath_pci' after type 'sudo modprobe ath_pci countrycode=276'07:22
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Ash-FoxWolfpaw, after that, start the wifi assistant, and it should work.07:22
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Wolfpawdo I have to start the wifi assistant with sudo -s?07:23
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Ash-FoxWolfpaw, no, just start it normally from the K menu07:23
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ranunculoidh3sp4wn: I ran the nvidia installer and it reported that everything was successful. I rebooted and X wouldn't start. Here's the install log http://pastebin.ca/9146707:24
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Wolfpawok I will try it....if it works I will come back to tell....otherwise I will come back too ^^07:24
DocTomoeHi ... I have a hard drive that is near to death and am transfering relevant data to a baclup disk. where does kubuntus kmail save its email folders?07:25
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h3sp4wnIf the locales are set right the countrycode should not need to be manually specified07:25
Ash-Foxh3sp4wn, that wasn't my expirence.07:25
ranunculoidh3sp4wn: Have you got any more ideas for helping me install drivers for my nvidia card?07:26
Ash-Fox!nvidia07:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:26
ranunculoidYeah I've ben there man07:26
ranunculoid*been07:26
Ash-Foxworks fine for me07:26
ranunculoidX just crashes for me07:26
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Ash-FoxPerhaps telling us the exact issue would help..07:27
h3sp4wnranunculoid: And you removed all the versions from the repos first ?07:27
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h3sp4wnAsh-Fox: I have never had to change that countrycode with kubuntu (however I have for madwifi on mips hence why I know of its existance)07:27
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ranunculoidh3sp4wn: No... How do I do that? "apt-get remove nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386"?07:28
lafrance! Kerry Beagle07:30
ubotuI know nothing about Kerry Beagle - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:30
ranunculoidh3sp4wn: I ran the above command. Is there anything else I should do before booting into recovery mode to run the installer?07:30
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Wolfpawre07:34
Wolfpawdidnt work07:34
Wolfpawbut the module ath_pci wasnt loaded07:34
WolfpawI first typed sudo rmmod ath_pci and the system said there is no module07:35
Wolfpawbtw sorry for my bad english ^^07:35
Wolfpawthen i typed modprobe ath_pci countrycode=276.....started the assistant and I became the message again that i have no rights07:36
WolfpawI started wlassistant wit sudo...but that was the same problem07:37
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Wolfpawno right07:37
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Wolfpawgot some other ideas?07:38
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WolfpawAsh-Fox ?07:41
Ash-Foxstarted the assistant and I became the message again that i have no rights <- you entered the password wrong?07:41
Ash-FoxI've never seen a error that says just "no rights"07:42
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Wolfpawthere was more than "no rights" but I cant translate all the text to english out of my mind....I dont have the message in front of me07:43
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Ash-FoxAnd I don't have the message either.07:43
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ranunculoidh3sp4wn: Once again, it didn't work. I must be missing something...07:43
Wolfpawthe system told me that I have no rights to use wlassistant...and asked..if I have started it with sudo...07:44
h3sp4wnranunculoid: backup i.e sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~07:44
stankshi07:44
h3sp4wnranunculoid: then run sudo nvidia-xconfig07:45
stanksi have problems with recording audio with xdtv07:45
stankspicture is ok but i don't have audio07:45
Wolfpawand what password....I started it from the live cd....07:45
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stankscaoture line-in and cd are on07:45
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stankscapture07:45
slow-motionhallo07:46
Ash-FoxI don't know, I don't use the live-cd.07:46
WolfpawI did only find the live desktop image....07:46
h3sp4wnThe other one is called alternative or alternate (i forget which)07:47
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WolfpawI know that I can install it from the cd...but when I tried this with ubuntu the installer crashed at the end07:47
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h3sp4wnuse the other cd (used to be called the install cd)07:48
ranunculoidh3sp4wn: I think I did that already. I'll try it again. Thanks for helping me btw07:48
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trev__is there a gui for wine?07:48
Wolfpawh3sp4wn: the alternative cd is a plain install image and no live?07:48
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h3sp4wnWolfpaw: It uses debian installer (its the only one I would ever use)07:49
nochhey guys, does kubuntu come with sql pre-installed?07:49
h3sp4wnno07:49
Wolfpaw*g* I thought this is for "linux cracks" with special settings and more special uses...07:49
trev__can anyone tell me how to mount a ntfs hardrive07:50
h3sp4wnWolfpaw: No its just the normal installer07:50
h3sp4wnWolfpaw: i.e what you would get with ubuntu breezy using the install cd07:51
Wolfpaw*g* ok07:51
Wolfpawh3sp4wn: I dont understand...07:51
h3sp4wnThere used to be 2 cd's - install and live07:52
h3sp4wnnow they call one the desktop (live) and one the alternative cd (install)07:52
h3sp4wndebian installer is more reliable07:52
Wolfpawjup07:52
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Wolfpawcould this cause the problem that I am using the live cd?07:53
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coachJwhat does this do??   sudo ln -fs /usr/bin/rar /usr/bin/unrar07:53
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coachJanyone07:54
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gemidjywhy there ain't kubutnu stickers with ordered cds ?07:54
skavengecoachJ: links /usr/bin/rar to /usr.bin/unrar07:54
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HawkwindcoachJ: It makes a symlink from /rar to /unrar07:55
coachJwhat does that mean07:55
skavengethat when you type 'rar' or 'unrar' rar still opens07:55
HawkwindIt means it links rar to unrar so that if you type unrar it will run the 'rar' command07:55
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coachJah, why did rar show up in menu?07:55
coachJdidn't07:56
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skavengethe GUI is 'Ark', archive manager07:56
coachJoh, ok07:56
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skavengeyou open that to use rar, under 'utilities'07:56
coachJok07:56
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Jazonhi everyone.  i cannot figure out how to get acpi / powermanagement working for my laptop (NEC i-Select).  I would appreciate any help07:57
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ranunculoidh3sp4wn: It didn't work. I guess I'm stuck with the generic nv driver...08:02
HawkwindIt didn't work is pretty vague.  Supplying error messages would help tremendously08:03
h3sp4wnranunculoid: try08:03
h3sp4wnranunculoid: Do you want to try a generic kernel ?08:04
ranunculoidI'll try it08:04
ranunculoidHawkwind: There are no error messages08:04
ranunculoidX just doesn't launch08:04
Hawkwindranunculoid: Sure there are.  You just don't know where to look08:05
h3sp4wnhttp://www.milkspank.com/h3sp4wn/dapper/ - download all those 3 files install with dpkg -i *.deb08:05
h3sp4wnthen try installing the nvidia drivers again on that kernel08:05
ranunculoidHawkwind: Ok - Tell me where to look then :D08:05
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Hawkwindranunculoid: There is stuff in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and probably in /var/log/messages08:05
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ranunculoidHawkin: Found it. I'm looking at Xorg.0.log.old08:07
ranunculoidFatal server error:08:07
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ranunculoidno screens found08:07
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ranunculoidExcept I have a screen:-/08:07
ranunculoidI'll stick the whole thing on a pastebin08:08
ranunculoidHawkwind: http://pastebin.ca/9152408:08
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Ash-FoxI spend a hour waiting for offlineimap to download all my imap mails to a 'maildir', only to discover that I have to add each folder in kmail as a seperate account.. gah08:09
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Ash-FoxReally not my day. been messing with my imap mail since 7am, it's now 8pm.08:10
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ranunculoidh3sp4wn: http://pastebin.ca/91524 <-- seeing these errors do you still think that installing a generic kernel might fix the problem? (It's downloading now)08:12
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h3sp4wnranunculoid: If you try that kernel you will know whether its a problem with the ubuntu kernel or nvidia or whatever08:13
Mr_Panhi, i've a problem with access to graphical mode with user "su" .. no function and i can't set anything on my pc ....08:14
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siggeubuntu-se08:15
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Philip5Mr_Pan: what do you mean? opening X apps from a shell?08:15
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_tomdoes anyone know how to enable multiple monitor cards in X?08:16
arso_hello08:16
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Philip5hi there arso_08:16
arso_Philip5:  hey, for the first time, i dont need any help :P08:16
Mr_PanPhilip5, no i want set a printer but tha graphical access with "su" no function ...08:16
Philip5arso_: oh my08:17
HawkwindMr_Pan: systemsettings  then click on Admin Option or whatever and it will then open it as admin08:17
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arso_Philip5:  hehe08:18
Mr_PanHawkwind, yes i know but when i click Admin Option button password not reconignize08:18
_tomi'm trying to make a dialup connection on a friends laptop, can someone help me?  the modem already dial's out, but no connection is made.08:18
arso_so anyone need help :P08:19
HawkwindMr_Pan: Then type the correct password08:19
arso_ahhha, thats a problem with the uasdj port or the ufc port08:19
arso_lol j/k08:19
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arso_Philip5:  hmm i got a problem08:19
arso_Philip5:  not getting any audio from youtube08:20
h3sp4wn_tom: What app are you trying to use ?08:20
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_tomkppp08:20
Mr_PanHawkwind, i type correct password it's a bug of Kubuntu .... i think08:20
HawkwindMr_Pan: It works here when I type in my password.  No bug that I know of08:21
Philip5Mr_Pan: stange that it work for everyone else08:21
arso_no noe?08:21
arso_one*08:21
imbrandonMr_Pan, check your caps lock key08:22
_tomh3sp4wn: even wvdial dials out, but no connection to the isp...  double checked the settings for the isp...08:22
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arso_youtube, no volume, no idea why, everthing else fine08:22
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arso_usign firefox btw08:24
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h3sp4wn_tom: Tried connecting with minicom ?08:26
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_tomh3sp4wn: never used it08:26
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h3sp4wn_tom: It may seem a bit difficult to use but you can see what is happening with it a bit better08:27
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_tomh3sp4wn: no manual entry for it...08:28
h3sp4wnhttp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/unmaintained/PPP-over-minicom08:29
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_tomh3sp4wn: adept is busy updating, is it installed by default?08:31
h3sp4wn_tom: Its not installed by default08:31
willhey guys.  I'm brand new to linux.  just installed kubuntu and trying to figure this thing out08:32
Riddellwill: congratulations :)08:32
h3sp4wn_tom: Its quite hard to use but is the only thing to use when debugging (for me at least)08:32
JazonHi guys.  hey look, I have been searching for a resolution to this issue for two days and have been unable to find one... my NEC i-select laptop is really running hot.  any ideas how to enable acpi feateures???08:32
willafter running into some compatability problems with konqueror, the first thing I tried to do was install firefox08:32
Jazonbtw - i am running dapper08:32
willwhat is the most user friendly way to acquire and install new software?08:33
_tomh3sp4wn: thanks, will have to try it after the updates...  you are the first one here to help me on this!08:33
willmy distru came with adept08:33
Riddellwill: k-menu -> Add/Remove Programmes08:33
willk08:33
Jazonwill - sudo apt-get install kpackage08:34
hexlerI used adept :) (have installed kubuntu 2days ago and like it ^^)08:34
Jazonkpackage is easy08:34
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_tomh3sp4wn: i cut my teeth on dos and slackware, so i am used to the CUI08:34
Jazonnobody has any ideas about my lappy hey?08:34
Riddellhexler: thanks08:34
FORRA508:34
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willJazon: what will that get me?08:35
hexlerwill: you want to install firefox ?08:35
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Jazonwill: a piece of software thats shows you all the programs you can install - one click and its there08:35
willJazon: k08:35
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coachJwhats the command to see if my video card is runnind the 3D drivers08:36
willJazon: i'm going to restart (ill explain later) and then I;ll try that and let you know if that solves my prob.  if not I'll explain my proble.  thanks08:36
h3sp4wn_tom: It uses emacs type bindings which I find a bit of a pain08:36
Jazonwill: are you in windoze?? lol08:36
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hexlercoachJ: got an ATI card?08:37
willJazon: no08:37
coachJyes08:37
_tomh3sp4wn: lol, used to use emacs when was just scrips.  lol08:37
Jazon<whew> :P08:37
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willJazon: kubuntu08:37
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_tomjazon: lol08:38
coachJhexler: yes ati08:38
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willJazon: btw, I'm sure that was somekind of linux joke that is over my head08:38
willJazon: yes?08:38
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h3sp4wn_tom: I can use it but I just don't find it that intuative for what I need to do most of the time08:38
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_tomwill: that was the customary sarcasm often given to newbies :)08:39
hexlercoachJ: there is an ATI Control Panel in my menu, but this is a special package... w8, I'm looking for it's name08:39
_tomh3sp4wn: i agree08:39
willI appreciate you guys giving me the proper welcoming08:39
willI'll be right back08:40
coachJwaiting08:40
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_tomjazon: did anyone tell him he won't have to reboot after installing stuff?08:40
Jazonlol08:41
coachJhehe08:41
Jazonnot me <oops ;-)    >08:41
_tomhahaha08:41
_tomhe'll learn to love the penguin...08:42
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hexlercoachJ: try in your terminal this command:  fireglcontrol08:42
coachJtrying08:42
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coachJnot found08:43
hexlercoachJ: are you using the fglrx drivers ?08:43
coachJyes08:43
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hexlercoachJ: then u have surely not installed the control panel   download it with the command:  apt-get install fglrx-control08:44
hexlercoachJ: as root08:44
coachJok08:45
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oemcan anyone tell me why when i sudo apt-get install eggdrop that well over half of the program is missing compared to the same one i got from the net08:45
coachJshould something show up in the menu?08:46
oemits pissin me right off i formated and re-installed to run into the exact same thing08:46
coachJi see it now08:46
oemit shows as fully installed08:46
hexlercoachJ: an ATI ireglcontrolControl ebtry08:46
hexlercoachJ: .. control entry08:47
coachJgot message says08:47
oemif i grab this file from the net can someone walk me through installing it?08:47
hexlercoachJ: in the terminal ?08:47
coachJdriver does not provide the fire GL08:47
oemi really really really wanna try a eggdrop08:47
coachJx11 extensions08:48
coachJno from th icon in menu08:48
hexlercoachJ: under render: ?08:48
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coachJKicker>ati gets error08:49
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hexlercoachJ: hm  sounds not good.  what was the source of your ATI drivers08:49
coachJutility has only one tab08:49
coachJeasyUbuntu08:49
hexlercoachJ: w8  can show u how it looks with my card08:50
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coachJk08:50
hexlercoachJ: http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto3pn6.png08:51
coachJlooking08:51
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oemis there anyone here that can walk me through setting up an eggdrop that i got from the net?08:51
willjason: you still around?08:51
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willhey guys I'm back08:52
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willI tried restarting and still have the same problem.08:53
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willmain problem:  I don't know what the hell I'm doing (just came from windows)08:53
willI'm trying to install firefox (on kubuntu)08:53
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hexlerwill: don't give up.. I still switched to kubuntu 3days ago ;)08:54
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willbefore I knew about adept and such I did it windows style: went to the mozilla website and downloaded the tar file08:54
willhexler: thanks for the encouragement08:54
hexlerwill: there is an easyer way  go into your Menu > System > Adept08:55
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the_hammeri left windows to ive tried a ton of different linux copies with in a 3 day period and finally found 1 i like im using ubuntu 6.06 now08:55
willhexler: ya, well in trying to install from the tar file I think I confused adept.08:55
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testHi. How can I make my mounted drive icons appear in a different place, like in a folder for instance?08:55
willhexler: adept says that firefox is installed, but it's clearly  not08:55
the_hammerultima 8.1 sucks mandrive sucks slack wares sucks back track sucks xandroas sucks08:55
hexlerwill: hm strange.. and trying to delete it and reinstalling it ?08:56
willhexler: I've extracted the tar into my usr-shared-applications folder08:56
the_hammerknoppix sucks08:56
the_hammeri can go on08:56
willhexler: delete the extracted folder?08:56
the_hammerlol im a newbie and bet ive tried more linux versions then the older generation08:56
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the_hammerall in a 3 day period to heh08:57
hexlerwill: go into your terminal and use the command "sudo -s" to get root privileges08:57
Ash-FoxGod, I wish kmail's imap support wasn't so crappy.08:57
the_hammerkubuntu doesnt support ati vid cards to well08:57
testthe_hammer: how many?08:57
the_hammerabout 7 or 8 different versions i have and tried08:58
willhexler: done08:58
the_hammerout of all of them im enjoying ubuntu08:58
testthe_hammer: Wow that's alot.08:58
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hexlerwill: now uninstall firefox with: "apt-get remove firefox"08:59
testthe_hammer: I like Ubuntu too. It's real friendly on most things.08:59
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calvinwhere do i get a flash plugin?08:59
the_hammerit all started when i d/l knoppix soon as i had that ppl be like thats crap here go get this 1 and try that and it was a circle of events like that and before i knew it i had a heck of a collection08:59
hexlerwill: there will be a y/n question..08:59
the_hammerya its pretty nice little setup08:59
willhexler: said "package firefox is not installed, so not removed."08:59
the_hammerjust wish i could make it do more things that i wanna do09:00
hexlerwill: then it's (like you said) not installed09:00
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willhexler: im guessing I just don't know how to use adept09:00
hexlerwill: install it with: "apt-get install firefox"09:00
testthe_hammer: I was really impressed how easily my wireless card set up being as I use a Broadcom. :)09:00
the_hammercool09:00
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hexlerwill: what we are doing in this moment is using adept..  but in console and not in the GUI09:01
the_hammeri wish i had of tried linux yrs ago09:01
willhexler: k well it says that the package firefox is not available  but is referred to by another package...09:01
willhexler: how do I copy and paste a huge error message without clogging the irc09:02
the_hammerwindows sucks heh everytime ya install it ya have to install 101 drivers disks for your hardware and for ever rebooting from doing that and here linux detects and installs all hardware and the os all in 1 shot09:02
hexlerwill: couldn't download the file ? :|09:02
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testthe_hammer: I don't think i could even use Windows anymore. I tried the other day and completely messed it up. Usig Ubuntu for to long hehe09:03
the_hammerlol09:03
willhexler: yes,  however it says the following packages replace it: libnss309:03
willhexler: "pckge firefox has no installation canidate."09:03
willhexler: do I want to apt-get install libnss3?09:04
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the_hammeri only have a couple of problems with ubuntu BUT thats because i havent a clue as to what im doing yet09:04
testthe_hammer: its true. I dunno why  or how I messed up win, but I did. That told me to stay away from it. heh09:04
hexlerwill: install it09:04
vdrmrtI'm trying to compile a custom kernel but my kernel won't boot, I try to boot from a SATA drive.09:04
the_hammerlol09:05
willhexler: will that give me firefox?09:05
vdrmrtI build the SATA drivers as modules09:05
willhexler: sorry to ask more questions, but I want to learn what I;m doing so I don;'t have to come on this for every new install09:05
vdrmrtI also tried to include the SATA drivers directly into the kernel but then I get a compile error09:05
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testthe_hammer: What kind of problems?09:05
vdrmrtld: Warning: size of symbol `do_drive_get_GTF' changed from 554 in drivers/ide/built-in.o to 1290 in drivers/scsi/built-in.o09:05
vdrmrtmake[2] : *** [drivers/built-in.o]  Error 109:05
vdrmrtmake[1] : *** [drivers]  Error 209:05
calvinwhere can i post bug reports against universal packages?09:06
the_hammeri wabba learn eggdrops but no one to teach me and reading forums are useless every 1 ive red they talk about shells meanwhile i wanna load an eggie from my own pc09:06
vdrmrtanybody any idea's09:06
vdrmrt?09:06
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testthe_hammer: I would help, but I don't know alot about irc bots either.09:06
hexlerwill: apt-get tells you that theres a missing libary file that you'll need to install firefox  so you have to install it..   and with apt-get you can not do much wrong because the source of these packages is directly ubuntu09:06
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willk09:07
arkygeekany idea why power management options appear in gnome and not in kde?09:07
willhexler: is apt-get a repository?  or a command? or does it bring up adept?09:07
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arkygeekwill: apt-get is a command09:07
gatekeeperwill: it is a command09:08
willhexler: is there a good website that explains all the commands?09:08
arkygeekwill: a repository is an 'area' where programs are kept.  different categories of repos exist depending upon the state of the program09:08
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arkygeekwill: if you type in man apt-get   or man <whatever>  you get a lot of info about the command09:09
gatekeeperwill: http://www.ss64.com/bash/09:09
hexlerwill: I am German and so I've only a german newby tutorial...  just google and you'll surely find a command list09:09
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toptrogCan someone suggest a gui driven app for burning dvd-iso image files?09:10
centyxwill: in konqueror, type man:/ and hit enter09:10
willhexler: where in germany?09:10
gatekeeperwill: have you used windows?09:10
Jazontoptrog: k3b09:10
haffetoptrog: Are you running gnome or kde?09:10
testk3b is te best one period. :)09:10
willgatekeeper: yes.  for too long09:10
Jazontest: agreed09:10
hexlergatekeeper: thx. this commands are helping me too ;)09:10
toptrogI'm running gnome and am new to linux...needs to be simple for now.09:10
haffegnome-baker.09:11
hexlerwill: in the east of germany in the bundesland Sachsen09:11
gatekeeperwill: take a look at this: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/09:11
Jazontoptrog: nothing simpler than k3b09:11
willcentyx: thanks.  bookmarked09:11
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toptrogJason:  is k3b installed with default install? or do i need to install it.09:11
Jazontoptrog: you will need to install it i thinkl09:12
gatekeeperwill: also created a little home page with some usefull links: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home09:12
willhexler: I've spent a few days in Germany.  They showed me a VERY good time09:12
willhexler: had a lot of fun09:12
LjLk3b is there by default AFAIK, it's under multimedia09:12
willhexler: congrats on the world cup finish09:12
gatekeeperhexler: yw :-)09:12
Jazontoptrog: by the way... try typing jaz<tab>  and see what happens09:12
haffetoptrog:  If you installed kubuntu-desktop it's there by default.09:12
Jazonworks for any name09:12
hexlerwill: yeah  it was a great world cup ^^09:12
Jazonalso any command09:12
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Jazontoptrog: for example if you type in sudo apt-g<tab> it completes it for you.09:13
willhexler: not so much from our standpoint here in the US, but thats not a shocker09:13
the_hammersorry got distracted changin a stinky bum09:13
toptrogJazon: thanks...will give it a try09:13
curumowhy09:13
the_hammertest ya never tried eggdrops?09:13
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testthe_hammer: nope. I've heard about them though.09:14
curumotest sucks09:14
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testcurumo: why?09:14
willgatekeeper: thanks for the links.  they look helpful on first glance.  I've bookmarked them and will check them out.09:14
Tm_TJazon: lucky you09:14
curumobecause you're gay09:15
LjL!ops09:15
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak09:15
gatekeeperhexler: if you want to get more adventerous: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#toc609:15
Tm_Tcurumo: err09:15
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testcurumo: That isn't very nice.09:15
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centyxcan anyone tell me how to tell konqueror not to use the system colors? usually in firefox i just type in about:config in the address bar...09:15
gnomefreakty09:15
hexlerwill: some weeks before the world cup there weren't much people interested in the games too here in germany09:15
testThank you09:15
gatekeeperwill: no problem hope they prove helpfull :-)09:15
Tm_Tbah, I'm old and slow :(09:15
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the_hammerdont feel so bad im old and slow to09:16
hexlerwill: because nobody thought that the german team will be so good xD09:16
imbrandonheh dont feel bad, i dident even op up yet ;)09:16
the_hammerSysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon643200+ at 1005 MHz (2012 bogomips), , RAM: 404/500MB, 98 proc's, 1.47h up09:16
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the_hammersee im a turtle09:16
willhexler: well, atleast fishing and golf are not bigger sports than "soccer" in germany09:16
toptrogJazon: started k3b install and it mentions it needs kde stuff...i'm running gnome. continue?09:16
LjLtoptrog: it will work, but it also *will* install a bit of stuff. depends on you.09:16
Jazonyeah09:16
willhexler: well, I think you guys were less of a shock than the French presence in the final09:17
Jazontoptrog: thats no problem09:17
LjLtoptrog: if you use aptitude, the stuff will be easy to remove later. otherwise it can be sort of harder09:17
toptrogthanks guys....will continue.09:17
LjL!offtopic09:17
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:17
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hexlerwill: *lol*09:17
imbrandonthe_hammer, you should apt-get install the -k8 kernel and maybe even kde 3.5.3 from kubuntu.org ;P09:17
Tm_Tjust to warn you kids, behave or I come to your dreams: http://kapsi.fi/tm_travolta/kuvat/temps-01.jpg09:17
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willhexler: I cant belv they beat brazil.  god, I love to watch ronaldinho play09:17
willhexler: anyway, back to you advice...09:17
the_hammerhehe09:17
hexlerwill: yeah  where did we stop xD09:18
willhexler: I tried updating the library and it said I already have the newest version so nothing was done09:18
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hexlerwill: hm :|09:18
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the_hammerwho owns the eggie here anyway?09:18
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LjLon #kubuntu-offtopic they're talking about make errors with qmake. here's football and eggdrops... there's something strange, though i can't focus what precisely..09:18
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newbiepersonhi folks09:19
toptrogLjL: what's aptitude? And I've already stated the dl for the k3b stuff.09:19
hexlerwill: it must work ...  and when you trying it again in Adept09:19
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LjL!aptitude09:19
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide09:19
doppelganger!flexbox09:20
ubotuI know nothing about flexbox - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:20
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kcburyshakerhow do i enable the multiverse in adept?09:20
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newbiepersonI have a question about kubuntu dapper. I have to make "sudo ifdown eth0" , "sudo ifup eth0" everytime I restart the machine to get an internal ip from the router. could somebody tell me how to make a script that will do it on startup?09:20
willhexler: ok, I just checked and my firefox folder (extracted files for the TAR file) is still in my applications folder09:21
willhexler: that should be deleted right?09:21
hexlerwill: yes09:21
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willhow do you switch to SU in the gui?09:21
nemesishello every one :-)09:21
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centyxhi nemesis09:21
gatekeeperkcburyshaker: Adept -> manage repositories09:21
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testnemesis: Hiya.09:21
nemesis:-)09:22
kcburyshakeryes, but what do i hafta type in09:22
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nemesisdoes any one know a really good place to get documentation on c++ for ultimate begginers ? like pdfs, docs or html?09:22
hexlerwill: I have found an other method...  have you got a "Add/Remove Programs" entry in the K-Menu?09:22
kcburyshakeris it the backports multiverse?09:22
willhexler: yes09:23
hexlerwill: start it09:23
willhexler: first, Im still trying to remove that folder09:23
willhexler: but lack su permissions09:23
willhexler: is there a way to switch to su in the gui?09:23
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gatekeeperkcburyshaker: remove the # at the begining to uncomment the repos09:23
testnemesis: Sorry. Couldn't tell ya.09:23
kcburyshakerok09:23
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Jazonwill: yes. start the app from the console with sudo <app>09:24
hexlerwill: haven't found a way yat  I deleted it in the console09:24
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CaBlGuYwuttup peeps..09:24
haffeJazon: Or better yet, kdesu <app> in the run dialog.09:24
testCaBlGuY: Hiya.09:25
Jazonhaffe: sure09:25
CaBlGuYanyone wanna help me with installin a printer..09:25
CaBlGuY:p09:25
the_hammerwhy is it such a chore to get help at times?09:25
Jazonwill: run dialogue is Alt-F209:25
willk done.09:25
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haffeCaBlGuY:  What is the trouble?09:25
hexlerwill:  go into the Add/Remove progams09:25
testthe_hammer: I have asked myself the same question....09:25
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CaBlGuYhaffe:   ummmm  i need to "install" it..09:26
CaBlGuY:p09:26
willhexler: done09:26
tony_can someone tell me why my php page downloads instead of getting viewed by the browser?09:26
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LjLtony_: your apache probably isn't set to handle php09:26
aminehi all09:26
willhexler: in adept installer09:26
hexlerwill: search for firefox  but you hace to choose "Any Suite" in the popup09:26
testamine: Hiya09:26
tony_i did an apt-get install php5 and it supposedly worked09:26
haffeCaBlGuY:  Have you verified that your printer is linux compatible?09:26
willhexler: it found it, but it is greyed09:27
CaBlGuYhaffe:  ummmmm  hell I dunno,  I just need to install the dam thing..  :/09:27
CaBlGuYit's a Lexmark..09:27
haffeCould you tell me what printer it is?09:27
LjLtony_: the php interpreter itself will work, but i think you'll need to symlink one or two files from the /etc/apache2/mods-available dir to the /etc/apache2/mods-loaded dir09:27
hexlerwill: and you can't select it ?09:27
CaBlGuYLex Z600 series.09:27
willhexler: no09:28
tony_uhh, i need that in lamens. that's why i'm having a time with this09:28
tony_i think i know what you mean09:29
tony_is a symlink=shortcut09:29
hexlerwill: hm :| sry but I'am too new in linux to find a solution and I don't realy know why you can't choose ut ...09:29
CaBlGuYwell sheet..09:29
willhexler: could I not be logged in as SU in the installer?09:30
CaBlGuY:/09:30
LjLtony_: sort of. type "man ln". shortly, you can create a symlink with "ln -s <file> <link>"09:30
CaBlGuYanyone else wanna try helpin me..09:30
CaBlGuY:p09:30
gatekeeperwill: what's the problem09:30
hexlerwill: doesn't ask you kubuntu for root privileges when you are starting this program ?09:30
kcburyshakerok   i am pretty sure i have uncommented all the depositories in adept, and then closed it and went to konsole and did"sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin" but it still says it cannot find it09:30
willhexler: ya it does09:31
tony_i have no mods-loaded dir in that dir09:31
willhexler: and I did09:31
kcburyshakerwhat the heck am i doin wrong09:31
willhexler: nevermind09:31
CaBlGuY!tell kcburyshaker about java09:31
LjLkcburyshaker: java is in multiverse. multiverse is not even mentioned by default in sources.list09:31
LjL!tell kcburyshaker about repos09:31
willgatekeeper: I can't seem to install firefox09:31
CaBlGuY!tell kcburyshaker about restricted09:31
CaBlGuYthere09:31
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willgatekeeper: i found it in the adept installer but it is greyed out and won't let me select it09:32
tony_LjL: i have a mods-enabled dir, is that what you mean?09:32
LjLtony_: yeah09:32
tony_LjL: can i just symlink all of them since i'm not sure which i need?09:32
gatekeeperwill: from the konsol sudo apt-get install firefox09:32
LjLtony_: better not09:32
tony_there's like 5 symlinked there already09:32
kcburyshakeri already tried the sudo thing09:33
willhexler: thanks for trying.  The charity support you guys give on this is amazing.  thanks again.  enjoy Germany.  I hope to make it back someday09:33
willhexler: ive tried that09:33
gatekeeperwill: when you start adept it should ask you for your password09:33
kcburyshakerit tells me there is nothing09:33
kcburyshakerdamn this is frustrating09:33
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willgatekeeper: it did09:33
CaBlGuYkcburyshaker:  what exactly is is sayin when you try to install Java5?09:33
gatekeeper!pastebin09:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:33
kcburyshakerall i want is a plugin for firefox09:33
kcburyshakerhold on  ill try it again and paste it09:34
CaBlGuYkcburyshaker:  ok..  have you tried the software installer...  adept..09:34
gatekeeperkcburyshaker: copy /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin09:34
v3ctorshe sent me there09:34
CaBlGuYyea, don't paste it here09:34
v3ctoroops...wrong term09:34
LjLtony_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP seems to have some info about your problem09:34
kcburyshakerwhat is pastebin09:34
willgatekeeper: in order to find firefox, I have to change to "any suite".  is firefox not supported in kde09:34
CaBlGuY!tell kcburyshaker about pastebin09:35
tony_thanks09:35
kcburyshakerahhhh geesus  another webpage?09:35
gatekeeperwill: just the way it organises packages09:35
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kcburyshakerscrew it09:35
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kcburyshakercrap like this makes me wanna go back to windows09:35
CaBlGuYkcburyshaker:  yep..  gotta get used to it when your usin Linux..09:35
gatekeeper!pastebin > kcburyshaker09:36
CaBlGuYLOTS of stuff to read.  ;p09:36
kcburyshakerall i want is a firefox plugin for java09:36
kcburyshakerwhy is this sop hard09:36
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CaBlGuYkcburyshaker:  trust me I know..  I went through the same thing..09:36
sudomasterhey ppl, are there any java plugins for konqueror?09:36
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: its not just sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin09:36
gnomefreak!java09:36
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:36
CaBlGuYkcburyshaker:  you just have to install the correct packages and make sure you got the right repos enabled09:36
sudomasterhi09:36
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gnomefreaksudomaster: and kcburyshaker go to the above link09:37
CaBlGuYhey gnomefreak  o/09:37
gnomefreakhi CaBlGuY09:37
kcburyshakeri know i have multiverse enabled now cuz before there were just like 4400 downloads...now there are tens of thousdands09:37
gatekeeperkcburyshaker: it's a piece of cake, I guess you are still learning and it takes time09:37
willgatekeeper: what do you mean?09:37
sudomasterwhen i get any packages on Adept, they say the packages failed or broke or something...09:37
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CaBlGuYkcburyshaker:  ok, so, you have done toe upgrade..  now, ahve you restarted your machine yet..  that might help..09:38
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: multiverse shouldnt give you that many09:38
kcburyshakeryou hafta restart?09:38
kcburyshakeri havent done that09:38
CaBlGuYnot al the time but every once in a while..09:38
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: if you upgraded kernel09:38
willgatekeeper: sorry, I don't have the jargon down right.  Ive been spoiled by years of handsoff install with windows09:39
tony_LjL: it was enabled already but it's still downloading them with the dl manager09:39
kcburyshakerwell i did upgrade the kernel  but i did reboot when i did that09:39
CaBlGuYLOL @ will..   I understand to bro..09:39
willgatekeeper: does each program have multiple packages. or does 1 program = 1 package09:39
tony_LjL: am i better off just reinstalling?09:39
CaBlGuYok kcburyshaker you should be good to go then..09:39
LjLtony_: uh no, why?09:39
CaBlGuYgnomefreak:  can u help him from here..09:39
LjLtony_: what is still downloading?09:40
testAnybody know what an egg_desktop error is and why I get it only after updating to the 26 kernel?09:40
gnomefreakis it just java he needs?09:40
kcburyshakerbwtf   now adept wont start09:40
CaBlGuYyes..  for firefox plugin09:40
tony_LjL: the php pages. they won't display, just download09:40
kcburyshakeryes  java and maybe a flash plugin09:40
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kcburyshakerill start with just the java09:40
CaBlGuYand kcburyshaker just be patient, it takes time to do stuff in Linux..09:40
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: have you restarted?09:40
sudomasterEveryone go to #albinoblacksheep!!!09:41
kcburyshakerlet me reboot...ill brb09:41
CaBlGuYsudomaster:  why??09:41
CaBlGuY:p09:41
gnomefreaksudomaster: do that somewhere else09:41
LjLtony_: try "chmod a+x filename.php" on the php pages09:41
sudomastersorry09:41
tony_LjL: i installed php by dl'ing it from the site first then i used the apt-get method since i thought it screwed up. i'm wondering if that's my prob09:41
sudomasterHey, can someone help me get adept working?09:41
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LjLtony_: oh. well it could be.09:41
LjL!packages09:41
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!09:41
tony_LjL: i did. they download. on the ones i didn't chmod, they just won't display09:42
CaBlGuYsudomaster:  just say what the problem is and someone will speak up...09:42
sudomasterAdept says every package is broken09:42
willI hate windows, mostly because you never know what viruses and random applications are funning in the background.  but it is nice not having to spend 5 hours installing one program09:42
sudomasterBut my install is fine09:42
CaBlGuYsudomaster:  have u updated?  or upgraded?09:42
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sudomasterno, i'm using ubuntu 6.1009:42
CaBlGuYI know will   I know..  :p09:43
gnomefreaksudomaster: than most are broken09:43
testAnybody know what an egg_desktop error is and why I get it only after updating to the 26 kernel?09:43
gnomefreaksudomaster: edgy is not ready to be used yet09:43
CaBlGuYsudomaster:  ok, so do an update..09:43
tony_LjL: also i think when i installed php by apt-get it installed apache1 over apache2 or something. apparently apache1 was running. i'll get it going. thanks for the help09:44
CaBlGuY6.10??09:44
LjLtony_: you have both a php.conf and a php.load in the mods-enabled/ dir?09:44
gnomefreakCaBlGuY: thats edgy09:44
CaBlGuYAhhh09:44
CaBlGuYI was wonderin..09:44
sudomasterhey, thanks09:44
sudomaster#include.h09:44
LjLtony_: oh. "sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop; sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start"09:44
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gnomefreakknot one hasnt been released yet09:44
sudomaster#albinoblacksheep09:44
kcburyshakerok09:44
kcburyshakeri have rebooted09:44
aminehello, i have a problem with installing pakages from the kubuntu 6.06 dvd09:45
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre09:45
amineCan someone help me09:45
amine??09:45
gatekeeperwill: repos list both programs and dependant libraries09:45
willanyone know why adept manager says that firefox is "installed" (when it is not) and why in adept installer firefox is greyed out and cannot be selected?09:45
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gnomefreakwill: tyoe mozilla-firefox in terminal09:46
kcburyshakerit said it couldnt find it09:46
gnomefreaks/tyoe/type09:46
CaBlGuYamine:  don't ask to ask, just askl..  ;)09:46
tony_LjL: ok, i stopped 1 but apache 2 won't start. i get "Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"09:46
kcburyshakerwtf09:46
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: you dont have multiverse and universe enabled09:46
kcburyshakerim pretty sure i do09:46
willgnomefreak: "command not found"09:46
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kcburyshakeri uncommented them in adept09:46
CaBlGuYkcburyshaker:  if you did, it would find it..09:46
gnomefreaknope make sure its not hte backports repo09:46
kcburyshakerhmmmm09:46
CaBlGuYkcburyshaker:  just check to be sure..09:47
kcburyshakerthen let me open adept and tell you what i have09:47
gnomefreakwill: apt-cache policy firefox09:47
CaBlGuYalways a good idea09:47
gatekeepergnomefreak: I was trying to get him to put his sources.list into pastebin to see what he had altered09:47
CaBlGuYamine: ..... ?09:47
aminei have a problem with installing pakages from the kubuntu 6.06 dvd, i see there are .deb files in the folder "pool" but i dont find the installer... can someone help me?09:47
gnomefreakgatekeeper: who?09:47
gatekeepergnomefreak: kcburyshaker09:47
CaBlGuYamine:  what exactly are you trying to install??09:48
gnomefreakamine: you dont install them directly from dvd you use apt to grab them from cd09:48
gnomefreakgatekeeper: ok ty09:48
aminefirefox for example09:48
kcburyshakerit says i have 18332 packes availible for download09:48
LjLtony_: are you sure it isn't running anyway?09:48
willgnomefreak: installed: (none)   canidate: (none)  version table:09:48
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin09:48
kcburyshakerok  hold on09:48
gnomefreakwill: not sure than are both firefox and mozilla-firefox greyd out?09:48
CaBlGuYamine:  ok, use adept are sudo apt-get install firefox on the command line09:48
aminei dont understand , i am a newbie09:49
CaBlGuYamine09:49
CaBlGuYok..09:49
tony_LjL: I get this when going to my page: "Warning: Unknown: Failed opening '/var/www/index.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0"09:49
CaBlGuY!tell amine about apt-get09:49
CaBlGuYread that..09:49
CaBlGuY;)09:49
willgnomefreak: to find either mozilla or firefox I have to switch to "any suite"09:49
willgnomefreak: and both are greyed out when found09:49
tony_LjL: i may be better off uninstalling and starting over, everything's screwy09:50
gsashaMy problem is not exactly kubuntu (I do use one...), but the Flash plugin does not work in Mozilla (it does work in Konqueror). Any ideas on what to do?09:50
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gnomefreakwill: when you ran apt-cache policy firefox what repo did it give at the bottom?09:50
noxshi all und guten abend09:50
CaBlGuYhowdy noxs o/09:51
willgnomefreak: didnt say09:51
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gnomefreakwill: can you also paste you /etcapt/sources.list file to pastebin09:51
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kcburyshakerwhere is pastebin again09:51
gnomefreakhopeisemo: you have 9 more mins to sleep09:51
gatekeepergnomefreak: Firefox looks to be in the standard repos09:51
gnomefreak!pastebin09:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:51
gnomefreakgatekeeper: it should be yes09:52
gnomefreakgatekeeper: im wondering if his list isnt compleete09:52
gatekeepergnomefreak: possible :-)09:52
aminethere is an error09:52
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gnomefreak- hopeisemo  + Hobbsee09:52
willgnomefreak: how do I do that09:52
CaBlGuYamine:  whats it say?09:52
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Hobbseehi gnomefreak09:53
CaBlGuYHowdy Hobbsee   o/   :D09:53
Hobbseehi CaBlGuY09:53
gnomefreakhopeisemo: kdsu is =  to gksudo right?09:53
Hobbseegnomefreak: hmm?09:53
gnomefreakddamn09:53
CaBlGuYHow ya doin babe..  ;)09:53
gnomefreakHobbsee:  kdsu is same as gksudo right?09:53
CaBlGuYamine:     ??09:53
abattoirkdesu09:53
kcburyshaker_ok i sent it09:53
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: may i have the link09:53
gatekeepergnomefreak: kdesu09:54
gnomefreakty09:54
gatekeeperyw :-)09:54
gnomefreakwill: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:54
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aurelhigh09:54
kcburyshaker_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1829209:54
CaBlGuYamine:  what was the error please..09:54
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Hobbseegnomefreak: yeah09:54
moparisthebestim hoping someone can help me, everything has been good for weeks and I log in just now any my resolution is at 640x480 and I cant seem to change it?09:54
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CaBlGuYmoparisthebest:  need to re-install your video driver..09:55
CaBlGuYeasy fix09:55
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: ok you still have the fiole open?09:55
gnomefreakfile*09:55
kcburyshaker_yes09:55
willgnomefreak: then just cut and paste?09:55
kcburyshaker_the sorces list file09:55
moparisthebestok CaBlGuY do they just stop working every now and then or somthing?09:55
amine(in frensh) the error:   E: Paquets dfectueux09:55
kcburyshaker_cut and paste what09:55
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: good now the 4 repos you have that the last word is universe add a space and type multiverse09:56
gnomefreakwill: yes09:56
CaBlGuYmoparisthebest:  well, I have run into an instance where I had to re-install...09:56
willroot@Wills-laptop:~# kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:56
willX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16809:56
moparisthebestok, sounds right, ill try it :)09:56
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will  Major opcode:  14509:56
gnomefreakwill: no09:56
will  Minor opcode:  309:56
gnomefreakwill: thats ok09:56
CaBlGuYK moparisthebest..  ;)09:56
will  Resource id:  0x009:56
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willFailed to open device09:56
willX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16809:56
kcburyshaker_you mean on that last line after the word universe type multiverse?09:56
will  Major opcode:  14509:56
CaBlGuYamine:  U still around or what??  :p09:56
will  Minor opcode:  309:56
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will  Resource id:  0x009:56
willFailed to open device09:56
willXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server09:56
willXlib: No protocol specified09:56
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willkate: cannot connect to X server :0.009:56
abattoir!paste > will09:57
newbiepre folks.09:57
aminethe command line will search the pakages to install it from internet or the dvd??09:57
CaBlGuY:O09:57
gnomefreakyes kcburyshaker just make sure you put a space after universe09:57
CaBlGuY!pastebim09:57
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ubotuI know nothing about pastebim - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:57
CaBlGuY!pastebin09:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:57
CaBlGuYwill:  use that next time..09:57
CaBlGuYplease09:57
CaBlGuY:/09:57
kcburyshaker_it looks like there is a period ofer the word universe, delete that also?09:57
newbiepcould somebody help me? changing the interfaces file didn't help ... and I couldn't make a .sh file with sudo ifdown eth0 sudo ifup eth009:57
gnomefreakwill: dont owrry about that paste the contents of the file to pastebin09:57
will!pastebin09:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:57
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: you dont want periods09:57
newbiepthe problem is ... after every reboot the computer doesn't get its ip automatically as it should09:57
kcburyshaker_ok09:58
kcburyshaker_i did that and saved it09:58
gnomefreakit should look simular to this :deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse09:58
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: sudo apt-get update09:58
kcburyshaker_ok09:58
gnomefreakkcburyshaker: when thats done sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre09:58
gatekeepercatch you folks latter09:58
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CaBlGuYsame..   gonna go watch some TV..09:59
CaBlGuY;)09:59
CaBlGuYsee ya Hobbsee, gnomefreak, o/09:59
willgnomefreak: well I just tried out the pastebin for practice09:59
willgnomefreak: did that work?09:59
kcburyshaker_omg09:59
kcburyshaker_it still said it cant find it10:00
gnomefreakwill: i dont know you need to give me the link after you click send10:00
kcburyshaker_gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr10:00
willgnomefreak: k.  well next time10:00
newbiep. /etc/network/interfaces looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1829410:00
kcburyshaker_guys i want this to wrok  i really really do10:00
kcburyshaker_but this is too frustrating10:00
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kcburyshaker_all i want is a plugin for java for firefox10:01
kcburyshaker_why is it so easy in windows and so hard for linux10:01
willgnomefreak: did my inappropriate paste tell you anything?10:01
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gnomefreakno10:01
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kcburyshaker_why cant i find this frickin packaGE????10:01
gnomefreakkcburyshaker_: what does lsb_release -a output10:02
willgnomefreak: I JUST installed kubuntu.  this is the first thing I am trying to install.  Have I skipped a step or something?  or did I get a bad install of kubuntu?10:02
kcburyshaker_Distributor ID: Ubuntu10:02
kcburyshaker_Description:    Ubuntu 6.06 LTS10:02
kcburyshaker_Release:        6.0610:02
kcburyshaker_Codename:       dapper10:02
LjLkcburyshaker_: which package, still java?10:03
kcburyshaker_all i want is a java plugin for firefox10:03
kcburyshaker_wait10:04
kcburyshaker_it says that source list is read only10:04
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kcburyshaker_therefore i cant make changes to it correct?10:04
aurelhm, i want to install mplayer on 6.0610:05
LjLkcburyshaker_: you must edit it as root10:05
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LjLkcburyshaker_: are you doing that, are you you just trying to edit it as your user?10:05
kcburyshaker_how do i get to root10:05
aurelthe problem is, i don't know what rep i must add to my sourcelist10:05
newbiepkcburyshaker probably with sudo su - ?10:06
newbieperr sudo su -10:06
kcburyshaker_guys all i know is im on windows one day, ask for a free cd and boom here i am10:06
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willdoes everyone like firefox and adept?10:06
kcburyshaker_ok  now i am root in konsole10:06
willbecause I can't get either to work10:07
LjLkcburyshaker_: err sorry, i pressed ctrl+q by mistake =)10:07
LjL!tell kcburyshaker_ about root10:07
LjLkcburyshaker_: don't be root10:07
LjLkcburyshaker_: just type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", that'll give you root just for editing10:07
MuJwill: nope10:07
LjLkcburyshaker_: or "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" if you prefer the KDE editor10:07
_tomi think my mixer has a faulty setting.  it is all the way up on the volume control, but i barely hear it10:07
LjLkcburyshaker_: (kdesu is the sudo for running KDE apps)10:07
willMuJ: what do you like?10:07
newbiep_tom what about your speakers? is the volume-knob on full there? ;)10:08
MuJwill: konqueror and apt-get10:08
_tomheadphones10:08
LjLkonqueror and aptitude10:08
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willkonqueror is not supported on websites I need to use10:08
newbiepoh k ..  but sometimes even headphones have a volumeknob hmm10:08
Dysshi10:08
_tomnot these...10:08
newbiepok. just wanted to be sure :)10:08
willMuJ: such as gmail, webct, etc.10:08
kcburyshaker_ok  can someone one on one me here10:09
Kr4t05will, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox :)10:09
MuJwill: you can make it act as firefox or ie10:09
kcburyshaker_this is scrollin too fast10:09
_tomso lets all ad to it...10:09
_tomadd*10:09
MuJwill: settings->configure konqueror->browser identification10:09
willKr4t05: I've tried that with like 5 other gracious techies and my computer seems to be somekind of phenomenom10:09
willn10:09
kcburyshaker_ALL I FRICKIN WANT IS A FIREFOX PLUGIN10:10
kcburyshaker_WHY DOES IT MAKE ITR SO HARD10:10
kcburyshaker_DAMN10:10
_tomlol10:10
kcburyshaker_this is frustrating10:10
_tomyup10:10
LjL!caps10:10
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.10:10
cpk2will: what repositories do you have?10:10
calvinim havnig trouble with the smb:// protocol not listing shares and workgroups. it just keeps asking for a password over and over.10:10
LjLkcburyshaker_: what's scrolling too fast?10:10
aurelcan anyone help me with installing mplayer?10:10
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cpk2kcburyshaker_: use adept make sure you have restricted and non supported checked10:11
kcburyshaker_lil   what do i need to do to get java installed so firefox can use it10:11
willcpk2: no idea10:11
cpk2kcburyshaker_: search for java in adept10:11
calvinanyone see things like that before?10:11
OODcpk2: won't work10:11
cpk2why woudlnt it?10:11
_tomdoes anyone know how to reset the sound mixer, all sound is too quiet (almost not audible at full volume adjustment)10:12
kcburyshaker_geeesus  now adept wont load10:12
kcburyshaker_wtf10:12
LjLkcburyshaker_, you need to have the multiverse repository enabled, and to install the sun-whateveritscalled package as you've been told. to enable multiverse, you need to edit sources.list as i was telling you before you started shouting, or you can probably do that with Adept as cpk2 tells you (but i can't use adept).10:12
cpk2kcburyshaker_: thats fine, do aptitdue search java10:12
OOD!multiverse10:12
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:12
kcburyshaker_ok10:12
kcburyshaker_im am in adept10:13
MuJsee then, be goodm, bye bye!10:13
willMuJ: it was set to be compatable with mozilla 510:13
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MuJO_O10:13
MuJbah.. then I don't know.. sry :(10:13
MuJset it as something else? :P10:13
MuJ-> bar10:13
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MuJlots of hot chicks etc. have fun nerds :/10:14
kcburyshaker_what do i need to change in adept to get the multiverse enabled10:14
DyssI have a comp with kubuntu and win xp. wen I start kubuntu nothing happens, but when I start xp the grub menu.lst gets overwritten by  the default one. anyone recognize this or know why this is?10:14
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OOD!multiverse10:14
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:14
cpk2will you probably need to enable either multiverse or universe to get firefox via adept/apt-get10:14
LjLcpk2: firefox is in main10:15
cpk2then maybe he has main commented out?10:15
OODwhy would he?10:15
LjLcpk2: i don't think so. note that right now i believe he's trying to install *java*, not firefox10:15
OODyea he's tryin to get java working in firefox10:16
cpk2no, i think will wants firefox and kcburyshaker_wants java in firefox10:16
LjLoh, i wasn't following will10:16
cpk2and when you install ubuntu it commets out the repositories if it cant connect during the install10:17
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willcpk2: how do I enable mulitverse or universe10:18
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krauthi10:19
krautwhen i connect via ssh to an account and reattach an irssi-client in a screen and want to switch from one window to another with <srtg>+<left cursor> i got "3D" into the cmd but nothing else.10:19
cpk2either by going to manage repositories in the gui or editing /etc/apt/sources.list10:19
krautany ideas?10:19
krautfek@jammin:~$ cat10:20
kraut^[[1;5D^[[1;3D10:20
krautthat's happens when i type ctl+left or alt+left10:20
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DyssAnyone know why starting windows overwrites the grub menu.lst?10:20
Kevin_Jimwho can i force to install a *.deb packeg with dpkg ?10:20
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Dyss-i I believe10:21
LjLKevin_Jim: you can't. well really you can, but then next time you run apt-get or whatever, it'll be uninstalled10:21
LjLthat is if it's missing dependencies10:21
kcburyshaker_ok guys  thank you for the help....but that webpage did wonders i now have java10:21
kcburyshaker_thank you10:21
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Kevin_Jimbat synaptic can't fix 3 broken packeges !!!10:22
Kevin_Jimneither let me reinstall them10:22
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kcburyshaker_yay10:22
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Kevin_Jimis the libc6 packeg !!!10:22
Kevin_JimLij: what can i do ?10:23
cpk2Kevin_Jim: dpkg --config?10:23
Kevin_Jimi dit it10:23
Kevin_Jimand it's say that  it need's the tzdata10:23
willis sinaptec more user friendly10:23
cpk2apt-get -f install?10:23
willthan adept?10:23
Kevin_Jimjust a min10:24
willI want  a gui installer10:24
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willIm not a fan of the konsole10:24
willI don';t have that good of a memory10:24
willdon't really want to learn a new language either10:24
willnot to mention, Ive been playing on the konsole for 5 hours now and gotten nowhere (with help)10:24
willgrrrrrr10:25
cpk2using apt-get is pretty simple10:25
willbut doesnt work from my experience10:25
cpk2just sudo apt-get and then install or upgrade or update10:25
cpk2and aptitude search to find a package10:25
_tomanyone know how to use the "amixer"10:25
willhave done about 10 times10:25
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Kevin_Jimi need to force the tzdata packeg so will install the libc6 packeg10:26
willsorry I sound frustrated.  I apreciate your help.  I just am frustrated and about to go back to windows, which Im also not happy about10:26
ironfroggyis there a way to configure credentials to store for samba shares?10:26
DyssNo one know?10:26
_tomwill: what release of ubuntu?10:27
cpk2ironfroggy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently10:27
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willlatest version of kubuntu10:27
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willtom: 6 something10:27
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_tomwill: 6.0610:28
willtom: ya, I think so10:28
ironfroggycpk2: is there a way to test that a share is accessable before doing that?10:28
_tomcan anyone here tell me how to unmute the damn mixer?10:28
_tomthe gui tools don't work10:28
Kevin_JimLij: tell me plz woh can i force the tzdata packege to be installed !!!10:29
cpk2sure, have another box try to get into the share10:29
willam I having rare problems, or is linux just not there yet on the user-friendly front10:29
_tomi think i'll switch back to slackware, at least nothing was broken there...10:29
cpk2_tom: alsamixer?10:30
schreggerI have a strange problem with my keyboard (AltGr) while running xgl and compiz. The AltGr key doesn't work. While running KDE or Gnome or simply the console all works well...10:30
_tomcpk2: any mixer10:30
unix_infidelTonio_: press 'm' when you get to whatever mixer you get to.10:30
unix_infidelthat will toggle mute / un-mute10:30
cpk2_tom: thats the command alsamixer10:30
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Tonio_unix_infidel:  ?10:30
schreggerI already tried to fix this by modifying the .Xmodmap but this didn't work10:30
unix_infidelerm _tom *10:30
Tonio_hehe okay :)10:31
_tomeither alsamixer or amixer10:31
schreggerAny ideas?10:31
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_tomunix_infidel: yes?10:32
roniezHow cani set rights on a user, so they are not able to browse outside their own home dir...10:32
unix_infidel_tom: press 'm' when you get to whatever mixer you get to.10:32
unix_infidelin alsamixer10:32
_tomunix_infidel: tryed it, no such luck... :(10:33
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unix_infidel_tom: do you have any sound mixer clients running?10:33
cpk2_tom: is your sound muted or is it blocked?10:33
unix_infidelartsd, esd, jack?10:33
_tomunix_infidel: i would think so... i had to manualy tell the system to load the snd module...10:35
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unix_infidel_tom: did you run alsaconf?10:35
_tomunix_infidel: i think so, can't remember now.10:35
DyssNo one?10:35
unix_infidel_tom: search the wiki for how to get sound devices working in linux.10:36
unix_infideldo it properly and it should work fine.10:36
_tomunix_infidel: 'alsaconf' command not found10:36
DyssWell, obviously windows is the superior OS then10:37
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unix_infidel_tom: like i said, you're not doing it right, search the wiki.10:37
_tomDyss: try slackware...10:37
willwill sinaptec work in kde?10:37
cpk2Dyss: i dont think anyone knows what you are talking about10:37
cpk2will: its adept now10:37
gnomefreakwill: yes10:37
cpk2and yes adept works10:37
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gnomefreakit will work in kde but not installed by default most people use adept in kde (does the same thing)10:38
DyssYay, attention.10:38
Dyss(22:14:20) Dyss: I have a comp with kubuntu and win xp. wen I start kubuntu nothing happens, but when I start xp the grub menu.lst gets overwritten by  the default one. anyone recognize this or know why this is?10:38
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_tomunix_infidel: why can't the bastards that write in the wiki's do the documentation for the distro, so we don't HAVE to connect to the web (when often times THAT is the problem)10:38
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willwell, gatekeeper linked me to this transition from windows to linux site and they use ubuntu and sinaptec10:39
gnomefreak_tom: you have a guide in your menu10:39
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_tomunix_infidel: i'm sorry, but RTFM doesn't work, when i've been through it enough to know where ALL the spelling mistakes are...10:39
gnomefreakit has most things you will find in a wiki10:39
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willgnomefreak: clearly you are a fan of gnome10:40
unix_infidelif you cant get to the internet on linux you are stuck.10:40
willgnomefreak: should I be using that anyway over kubuntu10:40
unix_infidelits a learning process...learn.10:40
gnomefreakwill: that depends i use all of the DE's10:40
_tomwill: gnome works10:40
gnomefreakwill: use what you like10:40
willgnomefreak: well since Ive done nothing but spin wheels for 8 hours Im losing faith in kde10:40
schreggerok, bye!10:41
willgnomefreak: but Im not sure gnome is going to help10:41
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_tomwill: kde is flashy, cutting edge, but is oftn times broken in some way, IMO10:41
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Kevin_JimWho can i force the tzdata packege to be install with dpkg ( dpkg --forve- _10:41
willtom: could that be why I can't install a web browser?10:41
cpk2_tom: download the docs10:41
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_tomcp2k: 4 what10:42
cpk2you said getting to the internet can be a problem so when you are connected just get the docs10:42
gnomefreakwill: i think it has alot to do with your sources.list file10:42
roniezAnybody here know how i can set up a jail on a user?10:42
_tomcp2k: i would like some human input, because people forget to write stuff down10:42
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_tomcp2k: i was speaking generaly :)10:43
willgnomefreak: how hard is it to switch to ubuntu.  shoud I just start from scratch with an install cd?10:43
testhehe10:43
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gnomefreakwill: i would if you dont feel like fixing the issue at hand10:43
willgnomefreak: i don't seem capable of fixing the issue at hand10:43
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gnomefreakwill: i need to see your /etc/apt/sources.list file to see why firefox is not installable10:44
willis there anyway to do that?10:44
willgnomefreak: didn't we do that?10:44
gnomefreakwill: yes what text editor do you feel comfortable using?10:44
gnomefreakwill: no i havent seen it yet10:44
willopen office?10:44
_tompkgtool rulz!!!  back to slackware i go!!!10:44
gnomefreakwill: not really what i was after10:45
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willgnomefreak: you name, I'll TRY to do it10:45
h3sp4wn_tom: arch is more upto date than slackware10:45
gnomefreakwill: type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list     and let me know whent he file opens10:45
_tomh3sp4wn: have you ever heard of K.I.S.S.?10:45
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_tomKeep It Simple Stupid10:46
h3sp4wn_tom: blatently but slackware is very out of date10:46
centyxoh i was thinking of the ppl w/ the painted faces and scary tongues10:46
_tomh3sp4wn: but not broken10:46
_toml8er10:46
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centyxfun10:47
cpk2slackware is also very DIY10:47
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centyxslackware is too time consuming, and messy10:48
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centyxi'm glad it was the first distro i ever used, but i would never use it again10:48
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roniezhm.. what package do i need to get with apt-get to be able to use commands like make?10:48
roniezand make install?10:48
LjL!b-e10:48
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:48
roniezcause now it cant find the command make10:48
gnomefreakroniez: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:49
LjLright, read that10:49
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roniezThank you10:49
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gnomefreakwill: did the file open?10:49
willgnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1830010:49
centyxgentoo's pretty nice, but you have to wait forever for everything to compile10:49
h3sp4wnI don't think any of them are that bad if you read the docs on the package manager (but I am too lazy for source)10:49
gnomefreakagreed none are that bad but depends ont he person how much they feel like working10:50
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OODwill: all the repositories are disabled10:50
gnomefreakok will good10:50
OODthat's the problem10:50
willALL RIGHT!10:50
gnomefreakwill: take the # away from every line that starts with the word deb10:50
OODthat'll enable them10:51
gnomefreakuse the arrow to move down/up side/side and the backspace to remove the # let me knwo when thats done10:51
centyxi went from slackware -> debian -> gentoo -> ubuntu -> kubuntu10:51
testim not brave enough to try gentoo10:51
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willgnomefreak: did it10:52
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gnomefreakwill: not hit ctrl+10:52
gnomefreakoops10:52
gnomefreakctrl+O10:52
gnomefreakit will ask you in the buffer area if you want to save it to that file10:52
gnomefreakhit enter after you see that10:52
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gnomefreakbuffer area = just above the commands at bottom10:53
gnomefreaklet me know when you get passed that10:53
gnomefreakok lets try to say that right10:54
happyhi all, im newbie to kubuntu and got problems with X server and my KDE profile, i have just deleted my .kde profile and cannot start X server, is there any way to restore default settings ?10:54
gnomefreakwill: now hit ctrl+o10:54
coachJi have a question about my USB HD10:54
willgnomefreak: saved the source list10:54
gnomefreakwill: now hit ctrl+x10:54
willgnomefreak: done10:55
gnomefreakwill: now comes the easy part10:55
willgnomefreak: looking forward to it10:55
gnomefreakwill: in the terminal type sudo apt-get update10:55
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coachJanyone?10:55
HawkwindcoachJ: Just ask10:56
roniezwhat the heck can this mean?10:56
roniezmake: *** No rule to make target `mkenv.pl', needed by `install'. Stop.10:56
gnomefreakwill: after that is done do the updates that are there you will see when you open adept that there are updates10:56
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gnomefreakwill: and firefox will be installible10:56
gnomefreak ;)10:56
coachJok the device indicates its mounted, I can vreate a folder there but the folder does not stay if a power down10:56
willgnomefreak: i'm not gay, but I would hug you now if  I could10:56
OODlol10:57
slow-motionn810:57
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coachJasked10:58
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cpk2anyone have any idea why i get random x errors when downloading things with apt-get?10:59
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coachJwhy wont something saved to my USB HD stay after shutdown??11:00
LjLcpk2: *x* errors?11:00
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willgnomefreak: im running firefox.  thank you so much!11:01
cpk2"X Error: BadDevice, invalid or unitialized input device 15411:01
cpk2  Major opcode: 14311:01
cpk2  Minor opcode: 311:01
cpk2  Resource id: 0x011:01
cpk2Failed to open device11:01
cpk2"11:01
gnomefreakyw will11:01
cpk24 times in a row11:02
gnomefreakcpk2: use pastebin to paste please11:02
willgnomefreak: all that time wasted over some damn pound signs!11:02
gnomefreakwill: yep ;) wait a while it gets easier to understand11:02
roniezmake: *** No rule to make target `mkenv.pl', needed by `install'. Stop. when i try to run make install11:02
roniezi have latest perl installed.11:02
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OODyea, linux does that a lot :P11:03
happyis there anyone, who can give me advice through private chat ?11:03
WoostaLast night I had my wireless up and going .. now I don't even have the eth1 interface .. where might it have gone?11:03
gnomefreakhappy: your better help if you ask in channel11:03
testhappy: advice about what?11:03
unix_infidelhappy: usually we ask peoplew ho have questions to ask them in the channel as others might be able to learn and use that informationl.11:03
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happyoh, i see, sorry, after update i lost desktop icons, so i i have deleted my .kde profile, since this i cannot start X, whats wrong ? X server says there is some problem with keyboard, but i did nothing to X configuration :/11:05
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happyis there any way to start KDE with defaults ?11:08
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gatekeeperevening all11:09
happysorry for these lamme questions, but im newbie and without GUI im lost :)11:09
testgatekeeper: hiya11:09
the_hammerdont feel so bad gate11:09
gatekeepertest: hiya11:09
the_hammerim a newbie to and feel your pain11:09
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the_hammeri been working for 5 days trying to get a stupid eggdrop going and i format and re-install for the same reasons and still nothing helps11:10
the_hammerasking ppl for help is like asking for a million dollers trust me11:10
happynobody ? is my question clear ? i hope so :)11:10
fredso i i have deleted my .kde profile, <- deleting file at random is not a good idea :)11:11
the_hammermy advice would be to reinstall what ever os ya got11:11
OODfred: i have done it multiple times without any problem11:11
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the_hammerotherwise ya be waiting for weeks or more before someone helps you11:11
happysorry, .kde profile should be created by default with degaults11:11
cpk2the_hammer: apt-get doesnt install eggdrop?11:11
fredOOD: ah ok, so it become a good idea :)11:12
testthe_hammer: yes sometimes it does take a while.11:12
the_hammeryes BUT its missing the config file11:12
cpk2the_hammer: make one?11:12
cpk2did you get eggdrop and eggdrop-data11:12
the_hammerand i have another copy of eggdrop on my desktop and all i wanna do is move it to the program folder11:12
fredhappy: listen to the_hammer :)11:13
OODfred: .kde just holds the confif files for kde, it can be safely deleted as a new one will be created when kde starts up11:13
happyhammer, thanks, maybe u r right, but i still hope that anybody can help me without reinstall11:13
the_hammeri used the sys thing to install it all11:13
fredOOD: i dunno but happy reports seems to disagree :)11:13
OODfred: i know, it's unusual11:14
fredhappy: so reinstall in a week :)11:14
happyfred: exactly :)11:14
testhappy: have you tried deleting the .kde folder and restarting kde?11:14
OODhappy: can you get terminal login?11:14
happyOOD: yes11:14
the_hammeri been here on/off a week also got invited to different nets and im not any closer today then when i was when i started11:14
happytest: yes11:14
testsorry11:14
testrepeated OOD. Sorry bout that.11:15
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gatekeeperthe_hammer: there are irc channels where people should be able to help you with eggdrop http://www.eggheads.org/support/11:15
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OODhappy: try resseting your xorg.conf11:15
OODdo : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg11:15
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the_hammeri was told im lucky im not being banned for asking for help with eggdrops heh cuz they felt i wanna cause trouble with them BUT really how stupid is that do ppl really think id go through all the hassels of install/format to get a eggdrop working just to cause trouble?11:16
testthe_hammer: I have been waiting about as long on my big question.11:16
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happyOOD: ok, i will try it, but it is very strange, i repeat, i did nothing to X configuration, only deleted .kde from my profile11:16
ironfroggyon an already installed system, how can i safely resize an ntfs partition?11:16
ironfroggyi mean, if i resize the partition with qtparted, will it keep the filesystem intact?11:16
RichJironfroggy: you could either give qtparted a try (free), or use any of the ntfs resizing solutions (not free)11:17
OODironfroggy: you have to dismount -all- the partitions on the drive you're resizing11:17
the_hammerive been to egg rooms and then they invite to other nets and when i join i gets laughed at and made fun of by all their friends11:17
RichJyes it will stay in tact...and what OOD said11:17
the_hammerwell if your a newbie and ya dunno linux then ya dont need an eggdrop11:17
OODand the only way to do that is to boot from the live cd, or use the gparted cd11:17
RichJso if you boot from a qtparted cd however, you don't have to worry about unmounting11:17
the_hammerF"U i say heh11:17
testhehehe11:18
RichJthe_hammer: easy with the language stuff in here11:18
the_hammerhow does a newbie get experience with out trying something new?11:18
RichJtest: what is your question?11:18
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the_hammersorry rich11:18
cpk2the_hammer: try using the source?11:19
testNow the big question again: Can anyone tell me why I get egg_desktop errors after updating to the 26 kernel?11:19
OODhappy: i agree, it's strange X can't start up11:19
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the_hammerthe source?11:19
RichJhmm..that is a weird one there11:19
the_hammerya mean that sys thing?11:19
testrichj: something in the updates causes this egg_desktop assertion error to happen.11:19
lkukacchi11:19
cpk2the_hammer: have you gone to egghelp.org?11:20
the_hammercpk2?11:20
the_hammerya thats of no help at all11:20
happyOOD: ok, i will check it again and i will try it again11:20
happyOOD: thank you11:20
the_hammerall i need to do is somehow move a config file from desktop to the egg folder in usr11:20
the_hammerthen after that the fun parts gonna be trying to configure heh11:21
testRichJ: it doesn't seem to hurt anything, but it bothers me. I mean as long as i don't update everything installs perfect, but the second i do update it happens all the time for binaries.11:21
coachJI have a USB HD, ok the device indicates its mounted, I can create a folder there but the folder does not stay if I power down, help!11:21
happylast question, is there any IRC client or lynx in kubuntu by default ?11:21
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cpk2the_hammer: thats easy... mv /hom/the_hammer/config /usr/...11:21
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RichJsorry11:21
RichJphone call11:21
cpk2err /home/*11:21
the_hammerok ill try that11:21
testthe_hammer:konversation?11:21
RichJtest: sudo apt-get -f install11:21
the_hammeryup11:21
RichJwhat does that tell you?11:22
the_hammertells me your on the phone11:22
the_hammerlol11:22
coachJsomeone help with my USB HD?11:22
RichJcoachJ: what is the problem with the USB drive?11:23
testRichJ: Just gives me a prompt11:23
coachJhe device indicates its mounted, I can create a folder there but the folder does not stay if I power down,11:23
RichJi love when that happens11:23
testRichJ: but as i said i haven't updated yet eithere11:23
RichJcoachJ: because you have to unmount cleanly11:23
RichJright click the icon for it, and do the safe removals11:23
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the_hammergonna try that quick cpk211:23
coachJah that could be, I'll try11:23
RichJalso, you may have to be 'root' or have 'root' leve access..using sudo, or fakeroot11:23
happyis there any IRC client or lynx in kubuntu by default ?11:24
OODKonversation11:24
RichJcoachJ: anything via usb like that, palm, usb sticks, ipod, if they don't get unmounted cleanly, whatever you put on it might not stick11:24
cpk2doesnt ubuntu install with gaim11:24
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happycommand line, got no GUI, only bash11:24
the_hammeroops forgot mv11:24
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RichJtest: what started causing the error?11:24
coachJim trying it out now11:24
OODcpk2: pretty sure it does11:24
cpk2it should unmount automatically when he powers down11:24
RichJbut not clean11:25
RichJof course when you remove power it will unmount11:25
testrichj: i dont know. I am using kernel 23 and everything is fine. As soon as I do the update then i start getting the egg_desktop assertion desktop error.11:25
cpk2my external drive hasnt had a problem being unmounted on power down11:25
coachJok im wrong it WONT allow me th create a dir.11:25
RichJsudo11:26
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OODhappy: try irssi11:26
RichJyour drive is mounted root:root probably in /media/usbdrive or something11:26
the_hammerthis truely does suck11:26
cpk2RichJ: me or coachJ?11:26
testrichj: this is what I am trying to find out, Why it does that. Otherwise I might stay with kernel 23 till november11:26
happyok, i'll see, thank you OOD11:27
the_hammertells me missing destination11:27
RichJcoachJ11:27
coachJsys owner my name-admin11:27
cpk2where did you try to move it to the_hammer?11:27
the_hammerusr/share/eggdrop11:27
the_hammerits in there whgere it need to be11:27
RichJwhat is weird, is the egg_desktop errors usually occur when there are some bogus files left over from and install11:27
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RichJand they are usually linked in a *.desktop file somewhere11:27
cpk2its /usr/11:28
coachJsystem:/media/sda111:28
coachJmounted as system:/media/sda111:28
the_hammermv: missing destination file operand after `home/oem/eggdrop.config/usr/share/eg gdrop'11:28
RichJya, just use sudo coachJ when you work with it11:28
testRichJ: Does that mean it isn't really something to worry about?11:28
RichJcan you boot to the desktop and what not?11:28
cpk2you need a space between .config and /usr/11:28
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cpk2its home/oem/eggdrop.config /usr/share/eggdrop11:29
testRichJ: was that for me?11:29
the_hammermv home/oem/eggdrop.config/usr/share/eggdrop11:29
RichJyes test11:29
the_hammerthats what i put11:29
RichJsorry11:29
cpk2mv home/oem/eggdrop.config /usr/share/eggdrop11:29
cpk2thats how it needs to be11:29
testRichj: Yes I can get the desktop fine, but some of my programs don't work. Nothing major, just kind of irritating.11:30
RichJwhat programs???11:30
the_hammerwhy is this giving me a hard time11:30
the_hammermv: cannot stat `home/oem/eggdrop.config': No such file or directory11:30
RichJtest: does the egg_desktop error name an application at all, or is it just generic?11:30
coachJstupid windize just uses it, i love Kubuntu but windoze does beat it at somethings11:31
cpk2sorry its /home/11:31
RichJmv ~/eggdrop.config /usr/share/eggdrop11:31
testRichj: It is generic. It basically says egg_desktop assertion error desktop NULL or something like that.11:31
RichJif that odn't work, it isn't in your home directory11:31
RichJya11:31
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RichJthere is an application with a buggered .desktop file11:31
the_hammersame error11:32
RichJyou have to read the error next time, and google it test11:32
RichJthen the file isn't there the_hammer11:32
trev__ok, i used the script from ubuntus website to add my ntfs hardrives but now they both have icons on the destop, how do i get rid of the icons?11:32
the_hammerbut it is i can see it11:32
testRichj: And that one file can mess up other stuff?11:32
cpk2the_hammer: you have read write priviledge there?11:32
RichJit can make other applications upset with the environment yes11:32
the_hammerlooks like it ya11:33
gatekeepertrev__: scripts or mount points?11:33
the_hammerjust group and something else dont11:33
testRichj: Thanks. Maybe I'll just keep 23 then until November when Edgy is released.11:33
RichJim on edgy right now11:33
OODtrev_: right click on desktop->configure desktop->behaviour->Device icons->uncheck "mounted hard disk volume"11:33
trev__scripts11:33
testRichj: Is it fairly stable?11:33
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RichJLinux 3LockBox 2.6.17-5-386 #3 Mon Jul 17 23:06:09 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux11:34
trev__ok thx11:34
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the_hammerwonder if im better off uninstalling the eggdrop from sudo and move the whole folder from desktop to usr/share location then11:34
RichJit has been stable for me..but there are some annoyances11:34
the_hammergonna give that a shot11:34
cpk2try moving it as sudo11:34
testRichj: What I mean is it stable enough to use and will all my apps work in it?11:34
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testRichj: What kind of annoyances?11:35
mp3guywhenever I choose a different context broswer style in amarok, it gets really sluggish, is there a way to fix this?11:35
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OODmp3guy: you have the latest 1.4.1 version?11:36
lkukacchmm11:36
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mp3guyOOD, yes, but its happened ever since I can remember with older version11:36
mp3guys11:36
RichJtest: it is stable enough to use...im using it on my lappy11:36
RichJthe annoyance was with adept, and the sources.list really11:36
RichJthe current sources.list was rather bare11:37
the_hammerim gonna kick my pc11:37
trev__OOD: Im sorrey but the ubuntu channel is useless and im using ubuntu not kubuntu so if you know where do i find that option in gnome?11:37
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testRichj: Will my kde and gnome stuff still work in it11:37
the_hammer mv /home/oem/eggdrop1.6.18/usr/share/eggdrop1.6.1811:37
the_hammerwhat am i not doing right?11:37
OODmp3guy: don't know then11:37
the_hammerlooks right to me eggdrop1.6.18 is desktop folder11:37
RichJmy kde stuff is working just fine11:37
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testRichj11:38
OODtrev_: i don't use gnome, so i don't remember how11:38
testRichj: What is the advantage?11:38
RichJyou can't sudo apt-get install much as the sources.list config is empty except for edgy-security things11:38
trev__ok, thx anyway, i know what to look for now ast least11:38
RichJno advantage, except that i am somewhat "bleeding edge"11:38
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the_hammeranyone?11:38
the_hammer mv /home/oem/eggdrop1.6.18/usr/share/eggdrop1.6.18 whats wrong here?11:38
testRichj: Okay, thanks for answering my questions.11:39
lkukacc##linux11:39
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the_hammerlol11:39
cpk2the_hammer: you know you need a space between the file being moved and the destination?11:39
gatekeepertrev__: did you get the answer you needed?11:39
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cpk2the_hammer: probably wouldnt hurt to try moving as su11:40
testRichj: one more question: If I wanted to upgrade an ubuntu system to edgy, how would I do it?11:40
the_hammerhmmhow i do that then?11:40
the_hammersu  mv /home/oem/eggdrop1.6.18/usr/share/eggdrop1.6.18?11:40
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the_hammerhehehe test11:41
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cpk2its sudo11:41
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the_hammerok11:41
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cpk2and i hope you are putting a space between the file being moved and the destination11:41
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OODit would be: sudo mv /home/oem/eggdrop1.6.18 /usr/share/eggdrop1.6.18?11:41
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OODthat's if you'e moving it from /home to /usr11:42
the_hammerman this is silly11:43
gatekeepertest: my guess is that you would need to do it manually, replace the repos and: sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:43
the_hammermv: target `eggdrop1.6.18' is not a directory11:43
the_hammermy butt its not i can see it on desktop heh11:43
testgatekeeper: okay thanks11:43
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gatekeepertest: yw :-)11:43
OODthe_hammer: then it's in the Desktop folder in your home directory11:43
the_hammerok im gonna rename it to eggdrop mabe that will help11:44
the_hammerok re-named11:44
the_hammerhuh11:44
gatekeepertest: don't know if update-manager will let you do it, you could try a bit of googling to see what you come up with11:44
OODif you see it on your desktop it's in ~/home/Desktop11:44
ironfroggywhy would qtparted only have readonly access to a drive?11:44
the_hammerohh im missing the cap D huh?11:44
testOkay one more question: How does one change the icons inside applications and the unchangable ones in gnome?11:44
ironfroggyi resized one of the partitions, and now i cant make any new changes.11:45
OODyes, it's Caps sensitive11:45
gatekeepertest: I would check the ubuntu wiki site first in any case11:45
the_hammerim confused now11:45
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scythehello all you happy ppl11:46
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the_hammermv /home/oem/eggdrop /usr/share/eggdrop11:46
gambixgambas 1.9.34 is out !11:46
scythegotta love a system that you can chat on while upgrading!11:46
OODthe_hammer: if eggdrop is on your desktop11:46
gambixhttp://gambas.sf.net11:46
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OODit'll be in the Desktop directory in home11:46
the_hammermv /Desktop/home/oem/eggdrop /usr/share/eggdrop?11:46
testsorry question was in the wrong channel. i apologize.11:47
OODwhy is that oem part there?11:47
cpk2the_hammer: it might be easier for you to find the file in konquerer and then look at the file path11:47
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the_hammermy name11:47
OODit would be /home/oem/Desktop/eggdrop11:47
the_hammerwhen ya install ubuntu its the defult11:47
the_hammerso then this way then right?sudo mv /home/oem/Desktop/eggdrop /usr/ eggdrop11:48
the_hammerlike that11:48
the_hammergod i feel so stupid11:49
cristianohello11:49
cpk2you dont need the space after user11:49
cristianoi've got a prob with my asoundrc file11:49
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OODno it would be sudo mv /home/oem/Desktop/eggdrop /usr11:49
cristianoit looks like sounds work in firefox and other apps but system sounds (amsn, gaim and so on) seems not to work anymore11:49
OODyou're moving the eggdrop folder from /home/oem/Desktop to /usr11:50
LjL... and i still don't see the problem with the eggdrop that's in the repos :I)11:50
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cristianohere is my asoundrc file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18308 can u tell me what's wrong when i put "plug:dmix0" as my audio device in System-->audio ?11:50
the_hammerman i love u11:50
the_hammersheesh11:51
OODworked eh?11:51
the_hammertook me all darn day to do that11:51
happyOOD: just fixed it by moving to older xorg.conf, even my accelerated ATI config is lost :/ thank you again11:51
the_hammernow to rebuild11:51
OODhappy: so you got X to work?11:51
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cristianopls guys tell me where is the error, it's very strange everything work (even firefox) and not system sounds :(11:51
happyOOD: YES, right now writing from Konversation ...11:52
the_hammerok heres a new qustion11:52
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the_hammerhow to run it from terminal11:52
OODhappy: your ati driver is still there, all you need is one command to set the xorg.conf to use it11:52
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OOD!ati11:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:52
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mamatoshihappy: you can build it by doing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'11:53
cpk2run eggdrop?11:53
the_hammerkinda ya but the config thing11:53
cpk2i would imagine eggdrop if its installed correctly11:53
the_hammeruh oh11:53
cpk2oh if you want to open the config file just do kate config11:53
the_hammerin terminal?11:55
OODya in terminal, or just double click on the file in GUI11:55
the_hammergui11:55
happyOOD: ok, i will check it, do you mean the [Driver "fglrx"]  ?11:55
the_hammerits not exactly installed but im trying to11:55
cpk2the_hammer: you said you installed it with apt-get11:56
the_hammerwell yes and no11:56
the_hammerthe apt-get didnt install 100%11:56
OODhappy: yes, that should set X to use the ATi driver if it's installed11:56
testHow about changing any icons inside applications or ones that seem unchangable?11:56
the_hammerso removed it and now wanna install the 1 we moved to usr11:56
happyOOD: it was really magic to get it to work, it is required to restart whole PC or only restart X server ?11:57
the_hammernow have another error11:57
the_hammerdam this thing heh11:57
OODonly X needs to be restarted11:57
the_hammer!pastebin11:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:57
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OODhappy: CTRL+ALT+Backspace to quickly restart X11:58
happyOOD: yes i know, lets go :)11:58
the_hammerwont let me copy/paste from the sys instakker thingy11:58
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the_hammerinstaller*11:58
the_hammergot 2 duplicate files says11:59
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the_hammerheh11:59
the_hammerahh well heck with them i wanna do eggdrop11:59
cpk2the_hammer: you should have left the adept install and just moved the config file into it11:59
the_hammerits hard to explain but one from app install missing tons of stuff compared to the 1 i moved from desktop12:00
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ironfroggyhow does qtparted decide if it should access a device in readonly mode, even if i have rw permissions on it?12:02
happyOOD: "ati" replaced by fglrx, but fglrxinfo says "Mesa glx indirect", dont know if it is ok, or not, wiki says no12:02
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the_hammernow it wont let me access the commands12:03
the_hammerthis wont work Type './configure' from the Eggdrop directory12:03
OODhappy: that means it's using the mesa driver, which uses inderect rendering only (which is slower)12:04
testWhat are emblems  and sticky used for?12:04
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the_hammeraww man this is nuts12:07
the_hammeri refuse to give up tho12:08

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