[12:08] <coachJ> a setup guide
[12:09] <fiyawerx> didn't there used to be one? like ubuntuguide or something?
[12:09] <fiyawerx> i think that covers gnome and kde at this point
[12:09] <houngan> why do you recommend synaptic instead of adept?
[12:09] <coachJ> never seen it
[12:09] <fiyawerx> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:09] <coachJ> looking
[12:09] <fiyawerx> Unofficial Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) Starter Guide
[12:09] <Ayabara> anyone using utorrent under wine?
[12:10] <VieLguS-KuTaS> is there a way to install and uninstall K apps with KDE?
[12:10] <fiyawerx> also you can look into automatix/easyubuntu
[12:10] <gatekeeper> crimsun: heard of libdvdcss2 but not libdvdread3 interesting :-)
[12:13] <LuisMendes> I've enabled some effects like shadows and translucency.. now I get an error when Kubuntu boots. It says "You must use XOrg  6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.Additionally, you need to add a new section to your X config file
[12:13] <LuisMendes> how can I disable the effects?
[12:13] <houngan> gatekeeper: why do you use synaptic instead of adept?
[12:19] <gatekeeper> houngan: I just prefer it, but also in breezy I had adept go into an infinite loop when doing a multi install
[12:19] <gatekeeper> houngan: off to bed, good luck with your installation
[12:19] <houngan> gatekeeper: ok thanks a lot
[12:20] <gatekeeper> houngan: np :-)
[12:21] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: no bad blocks on any of my partitions
[12:23] <houngan> Ayabara: gatekeeper has quit :(
[12:23] <Ayabara> houngan: ok. does that mean I have to think for myself?? ;-)
[12:24] <houngan> Ayabara: Well yeah, if apt-get can't guess what you need :D
[12:24] <houngan> cu
[12:25] <zeuth> Name of french chan ubuntu plz ?
[12:27] <houngan> zeuth: Ubuntu-fr
[12:27] <zeuth> Thx
[12:27] <houngan> np
[12:27] <houngan> je suis le baguette
[12:28] <acald> anybody have success with Java in Konqueror?
[12:29] <acald> i've googled and searched and nothing seems to fix it
[12:29] <acald> just a consistent "loading applet"
[12:31] <Hawkwind> acald: Have you looked on the wiki ?  There is explanation how to fix it in konqueror at the bottom of the page
[12:31] <Hawkwind> !java
[12:31] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:32] <acald> i'll look again
[12:33] <Hawkwind> acald: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-c0ade16437f7da9136027572a9481cd65757bd41
[12:35] <sebsebseb> a
[12:42] <sebsebseb> Can I delete everything Gnome/Kubuntu all the program the lot except my Home folder.  and then re install Dapper.  and have it use the old Home folder?
[12:43] <Kyral> only if /home is mounted on a seperate partition
[12:43] <sebsebseb> that's what I thought
[12:43] <Kyral> (Hell if /home is mounted on its own partition you can use it across distros :D)
[12:43] <sebsebseb> indeed
[12:43] <sebsebseb> even in distros that are in a virtual machine?
[12:43] <Kyral> This /home on my machine has been used across SuSE, Gentoo, Ubuntu, and now Arch
[12:43] <Kyral> eh thats sketchy
[12:44] <Kyral> having two OS's actively going Read-Write on the same partition is just ASKING for something bad to happen
[12:44] <sebsebseb> I guess that's true
[12:45] <acald> ubotu and hawkwind:  Thanks for the pointers  (I'm fetching the updates for multiverse right now).
[12:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about and hawkwind:  Thanks for the pointers  (I'm fetching the updates for multiverse right now). - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:45] <Kyral> lol Ubotu
[12:45] <sebsebseb> Ubotu
[12:45] <sebsebseb> Ubotu!
[12:45] <RawSewage> KTorrent problem.  Help Please.   I resized bottom panel (info widget) and when I lowered it to far, it got stuck minimized.  I cant see the bottom widget anymore
[12:45] <sebsebseb> ubotu
[12:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:46] <acald> Pardon my newbieness
[12:46] <sebsebseb> ubotu people that think I am a person!
[12:46] <RawSewage> Can someone help me
[12:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about people that think I am a person! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:46] <RawSewage> nm
[12:46] <RawSewage> I fixed it
[12:46] <sebsebseb> Kyral:  Why have differnet distros of Linux?  I used Fedora Core before now Ubuntu.
[12:47] <Hawkwind> acald: No problem.  Glad to help :)
[12:47] <sebsebseb> I mean in virtual machines sure I could understand that
[12:47] <sebsebseb> ,but on partitions on hard disk why?
[12:47] <sebsebseb> a multi boot  or dual boot with differnet Linux distros what's the point?
[12:48] <Hawkwind> Some people like to have more than one distro to play with.  Nothing wrong with it
[12:48] <acald> I guess I took for granted that the Java libraries were there since Konqueror showed it as availble.
[12:48] <sebsebseb> except they are all pretty much the same I think?
[12:48] <Hawkwind> sebsebseb: Ummm no
[12:49] <sebsebseb> same programs.  Gnome KDE Firefox Open Office Gaim etc etc
[12:49] <Hawkwind> sebsebseb: Most all distros all different.  Atleast in how they look and how they do things.  As well as hardware detection and many other things
[12:49] <sebsebseb> well yes that's true
[12:49] <Hawkwind> sebsebseb: So.  Each distro makes their stuff differently
[12:49] <sebsebseb> ,but generally then they are similar
[12:50] <Hawkwind> No, not even generally
[12:50] <Hawkwind> All distros are different.  Hence the reason there are so many
[12:50] <acald> any good ideas on management packages for a small business environment
[12:50] <sebsebseb> I been thinking about trying out Suse in virtual machine :)
[12:50] <sebsebseb> read good things
[12:50] <Hawkwind> Might want to read again, or read a more true article
[12:50] <sebsebseb> and well Genetoo as well I guess.  apparnatlly that one is more about.  choiceing  exactly what people want.  the kernel version the lot
[12:50] <Kyral> Each Distro represents someone's idea of The Perfect Distro
[12:51] <Kyral> Of which is a purely objective and personal thing
[12:51] <Hawkwind> Kyral: Good choice of words
[12:52] <sebsebseb> Hawkind:  your saying Suse is bad?
[12:52] <sebsebseb> Hawkind: even
[12:52] <sebsebseb> ah same mistake
[12:52] <sebsebseb> Hawkwind:  I mean
[12:52] <LuisMendes> how can I start the composite manager? it crashed on startup and I need to disable a few options
[12:53] <Hawkwind> sebsebseb: I've never tried it.  Best thing to do is try it yourself and see what you think of it.  You might like it, or you might hate it
[12:54] <sebsebseb> yeah just like I hate KDE or dislike,  as in the actsaul GUI,  but I am in here,  because of idiots booting me about a week ago from the Ubuntu channel,  because of a stupid arguement.  and still banned.
[12:54] <sebsebseb> I meant KDE as in the GUI
[12:54] <sebsebseb> just hte way it is.  I prefer Gnome when it comes to that stuff
[12:54] <sebsebseb> ,but KDE has rather good apps.  K3B so on
[12:54] <sebsebseb> saying this in the KDE Ubuntu fan boys channel might stir something up :D
[12:56] <sebsebseb> Fedora Core 2 and 4 I used and liked it a lot,  but took ages to install on this PC.  and then there was Ubuntu and I wanted to try that
[12:56] <sebsebseb> and so been using that yeah :)
[12:56] <sebsebseb> and also since it was only one CD.  unlike FC4.  so just half an hour or so to install
[12:56] <sebsebseb> what happens if I try and delete everything when Home is not in it's own partition?
[01:04] <Zaire> anyone in here know how to install BattleField 2 with cedega cause my cedega said you have to have admin rights or something like that
[01:06] <Hawkwind> Zaire: Might ask in #Cedega or #WineHQ as those guys are the experts
[01:11] <Philip5> Zaire: search in the transgaming forums
[01:12] <Yus> Anyone else than me having problems with katapult after last update?
[01:25] <ranunculoid> Ho do I install from a downloaded .deb file?
[01:25] <Hawkwind> ranunculoid: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:27] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i /home/eamon/ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb
[01:27] <ranunculoid> (Reading database ... 74826 files and directories currently installed.)
[01:27] <ranunculoid> Preparing to replace ktorrent 1.2-0ubuntu5 (using .../ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb) ...
[01:27] <ranunculoid> Unpacking replacement ktorrent ...
[01:27] <ranunculoid> dpkg: error processing /home/eamon/ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb (--install):
[01:27] <ranunculoid>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[01:27] <ranunculoid> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:27] <ranunculoid>  /home/eamon/ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb
[01:27] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$
[01:27] <ranunculoid> That didn't work very well...
[01:28] <h3sp4wn> How was that deb made ?
[01:28] <ranunculoid> I downloaded it from ktorrent.org
[01:28] <BKaj> I need to configure x-cd-roast as super user before I can use it ...what's the comand . pls ?
[01:28] <ranunculoid> I tried to install it before when I used MEPIS and I got the exact same error
[01:29] <BKaj> asureus works well and you can get it in synaptic
[01:29] <ranunculoid> It uses too much ram
[01:29] <BKaj> bummer
[01:30] <BKaj> low on mem ?
[01:30] <ranunculoid> I'm running it now and it's using 462 mb of memory
[01:30] <ranunculoid> 512mg
[01:30] <BKaj> ic
[01:30] <ranunculoid> 512mb
[01:30] <BKaj> ok
[01:31] <BKaj> java does that
[01:31] <ranunculoid> uh-huh
[01:32] <OOD> ranunculoid: i found a solution
[01:33] <aevaughn> Hello
[01:33] <BKaj> can some tell me the cmd for configuring an installed prog as super user ?
[01:34] <SperMite> How can i remove apache2 and all the config files that came with it?
[01:35] <ranunculoid> OOD: "-force-overwrite"?
[01:35] <ranunculoid> It didn't work
[01:35] <ranunculoid> What's your solution?
[01:36] <ranunculoid> I'll paste the output for the craic
[01:37] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i -force-overwrite /home/eamon/ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb
[01:37] <ranunculoid> Password:
[01:37] <ranunculoid> dpkg: conflicting actions --field and --install
[01:37] <ranunculoid> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[01:37] <ranunculoid> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[01:37] <sebsebseb> SperMite:  I could tell you how with Syamptic the Gnome file manager
[01:37] <ranunculoid> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[01:37] <ranunculoid> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[01:37] <ranunculoid> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[01:37] <ranunculoid> Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[01:37] <ranunculoid> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[01:37] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$
[01:37] <ranunculoid> apt-get remove apache
[01:39] <sysrpl> hi, how do i force my wireless adpater to release its ip address and renew it?
[01:42] <OOD> ranunculoid: nevermind, it won't work
[01:43] <ranunculoid> OOD: :(
[01:45] <Zaire> yay BF2 is installing lol
[01:48] <sysrpl> hi, how do i force my wireless adpater to release its ip address and renew it?
[01:49] <ranunculoid> OOD: I got it to work :-D "--force-overwrite" (an extra '-') was what was needed. ^_-
[01:51] <ranunculoid> OOD: I got it to work :-D "--force-overwrite" (an extra '-') was what was needed. ^_^
[01:55] <acald_> hawkwind: I've followed all of the instructions and no change for the java
[01:55] <acald_> any other ideas?
[02:03] <z00m> can anyone tell me how to disable SMTP in kubuntu ?
[02:05] <acald_> hawkwind: it appears installing the SDK made the difference
[02:05] <acald_> go figure
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[02:06] <Zaire> to anyone who may be interested and didn't know this to install BattleField 2 with cedega you have to set the install mode to Windows XP mode
[02:06] <sebsebseb> Zaire: Cadega
[02:07] <sebsebseb> you buy it?
[02:07] <Zaire> yeps I gots it lol
[02:07] <sebsebseb> you brought?
[02:07] <sebsebseb> or download or?
[02:07] <sebsebseb> I think it can be downloaded for free,  but then has to be set up
[02:07] <Zaire> does it matter anyway I want battle field 2 lol
[02:07] <sebsebseb> I am interested in Cadega
[02:08] <sebsebseb> only looked into it a little
[02:08] <sebsebseb> so I was wondering what you did
[02:10] <z00m> battle field 2 is a top game, why not dual boot and play games on windows XP its easyer!
[02:10] <sebsebseb> z00m:  or have XP inside a virtual machine in Linux :d
[02:11] <z00m> sebsebseb: dont this is will support GFX card that way, it will just be the vmware default settings
[02:11] <z00m> think it will^
[02:11] <sebsebseb> I have heard it will work with non 3D games quite well
[02:11] <z00m> does anyone know how i can disable SMTP service on my box if im not using it
[02:12] <z00m> sebsebseb: it might work but it will look like crap :P
[02:13] <z00m> anyway, i gotta go! :P
[02:13] <z00m> laterz
[02:18] <I_Died_Once> i cant find cedega in the adept repositories
[02:18] <sebsebseb> probably,  because it's commerical and all that
[02:19] <sebsebseb> and not just any program
[02:19] <I_Died_Once> ....nooooooooooooo
[02:20] <I_Died_Once> well that sucks
[02:22] <OOD> I_Died_Once: try wine
[02:24] <I_Died_Once> I wonder if tehre is a crack for cedega
[02:27] <posthuman> nah died
[02:28] <posthuman> you can download it at torrent sites though..which I Just did not mention
[02:28] <posthuman> I pay a 5 dollar a month subscription for it.
[02:28] <sebsebseb> where did he go?
[02:28] <I_Died_Once> so  you gotta pay to activate it'
[02:28] <sebsebseb> I don't see his name in the list of users
[02:28] <I_Died_Once> ??
[02:29] <sebsebseb> no you can download it
[02:29] <posthuman> No.  Once you pay once you can download it
[02:29] <sebsebseb> and use use it I THINK
[02:29] <posthuman> but to keep it updated you need to pay
[02:29] <posthuman> but it works if you pay just once
[02:29] <posthuman> you just cant get newer upgrades
[02:29] <sebsebseb> or you don't pay at all and just download it I think
[02:29] <I_Died_Once> whisper the torrent link please
[02:29] <sebsebseb> or you just settle with playing games on a dual boot with Windows.  or have in a virtual machine in Linux :d
[02:29] <posthuman> not officially seb
[02:30] <sebsebseb> I Would if I could find your name in the list of people
[02:30] <I_Died_Once> I_Died_Once
[02:30] <sebsebseb> it's not there
[02:30] <posthuman> message me i_died
[02:32] <sebsebseb> ok done
[02:34] <will> can someone help me set up my source list ?
[02:35] <Lunar_Raven> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:35] <Lunar_Raven> try that will
[02:35] <GaiaX11> will: What happened?
[02:35] <Lunar_Raven> very helpful
[02:35] <Lunar_Raven> and ..
[02:35] <Lunar_Raven> !sources
[02:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:36] <will> GaiaX11: I'm brand new to linux
[02:36] <Lunar_Raven> !easysource
[02:36] <will> just installed kubuntu
[02:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:36] <will> trying to get mozilla installed
[02:36] <GaiaX11> will: sudo synaptic
[02:37] <GaiaX11> will: search mozilla
[02:37] <will> GaiaX11: im using kubuntu
[02:37] <Lunar_Raven> will
[02:38] <Lunar_Raven> for kubuntu you use adept
[02:38] <Lunar_Raven> sudo adept :)
[02:38] <Lunar_Raven> or choose it from the menu
[02:38] <GaiaX11> will: no problem
[02:38] <GaiaX11> will: type in the konsole
[02:38] <GaiaX11> sudo synaptic
[02:39] <Lunar_Raven> does kubuntu have synaptic?
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> Lunar_Raven: If you install it
[02:39] <Lunar_Raven> well, he probably hasn't
[02:39] <Lunar_Raven> default it would be adept
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> Lunar_Raven: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[02:39] <Lunar_Raven> yah :P
[02:39] <Lunar_Raven> I prefer adept
[02:39] <Lunar_Raven> I was just saying for the new guy
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> I prefer aptitude
[02:40] <GaiaX11> I prefer apt-get
[02:40] <Lunar_Raven> I like smart
[02:40] <Lunar_Raven> and adept
[02:40] <Lunar_Raven> and aptitiude
[02:40] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[02:40] <GaiaX11> But I think for him synaptic is a good start
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> I don't see much need to use anything other than aptitude (apart from for source)
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> the interactive aptitude is pretty good
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> (if you need menu's etc)
[02:41] <GaiaX11> He will get confused
[02:41] <GaiaX11> Let's just help him
[02:41] <Lunar_Raven> GUI is always good for a beginner :o
[02:41] <Lunar_Raven> and I just like gui, heh
[02:42] <GaiaX11> Lunar_Raven: yeah!
[02:42] <GaiaX11> will: So ...
[02:43] <GaiaX11> will: sudo apt-get install mozilla-browser
[02:56] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why sudo chmod +x or chmod 775 /usr/lib/xscreensaver doesn't work? I"m trying to move glmatrix there
[02:58] <will> sorry guys, got called away for a sec
[02:59] <will> Ok, I've downloaded a tar file for the latest firefox
[02:59] <will> do I still use adept
[03:00] <will> at one point I extracted it, but that didn't seem to help
[03:00] <Cntryboy> wow this channel sleeps more than anything
[03:00] <Cntryboy> lol
[03:00] <Lunar_Raven> you can..if you want it 'globally installed.'  But if you just want to use the tar that's fine.  JUst extract that and run the firefox executable
[03:00] <Lunar_Raven> you should be able to just click it
[03:00] <Lunar_Raven> 'firefox'
[03:02] <will> yah
[03:02] <will> I click it and ARK opens up
[03:02] <elknof1> hi everybody...  can someone give me a hand with a small issue of k3b??
[03:02] <will> from there I extracted it into a folder
[03:03] <will> it wouldn't let me extract it into my applications folder
[03:03] <will> guessing thats because I;m not signed in as a super use
[03:03] <will> r
[03:04] <will> Lunar_Raven: once I click on it and Ark opens up.  then what?
[03:05] <Lunar_Raven> if you do it that way, you must extract it into your home directory some where
[03:05] <elknof1> hi everybody...  can someone give me a hand with a small issue of k3b??
[03:05] <Lunar_Raven> then in that directory..find the 'firefox' file and open that
[03:05] <will> k
[03:05] <will> just a sec
[03:05] <will> will try
[03:05] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[03:06] <OOD> elknof1: what is the problem?
[03:06] <will> Lunar_Raven: I'm running into permission issues
[03:07] <will> how do I get admin rights in Ark
[03:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> will: kdesu ark
[03:09] <Lunar_Raven> yes what he said
[03:09] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[03:09] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[03:09] <will> thanks
[03:10] <Lunar_Raven> or you could do it the old fashioned way ..  from a console:  sudo tar -xvvf nameofarchive.tar.gz
[03:10] <Lunar_Raven> but either works
[03:10] <will> will@Wills-laptop:~$ kdesu ark
[03:10] <will> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[03:10] <will>   Major opcode:  145
[03:10] <will>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:10] <will>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:11] <will> Failed to open device
[03:11] <will> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[03:11] <will>   Major opcode:  145
[03:11] <will>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:11] <will>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:11] <will> Failed to open device
[03:11] <Lunar_Raven> ah ignore that
[03:11] <Lunar_Raven> still should work
[03:11] <Lunar_Raven> I think
[03:11] <Lunar_Raven> if it doesn't..just do the command I showed above
[03:11] <OOD> that always happens when you start a gui app from terminal
[03:11] <Lunar_Raven> yeah
[03:11] <Lunar_Raven> that's a xorg issue..but doesn't affect anything
[03:12] <Lunar_Raven> I got rid of that awhile ago
[03:13] <will> didn't work
[03:13] <Lunar_Raven> that's odd..what exactly happened?
[03:14] <Lunar_Raven> sudo tar -xvvf nameofarchive.tar.gz <---try that, it'll extract it to wherever the file is located.    Of course, replace nameofarchvie with the real filename
[03:14] <will> I'm probably missing a step
[03:14] <will> what I'm trying to do is...
[03:14] <will> extract the firefox tar file to  usr - share - applications
[03:15] <will> but it won't give me permission to extract there or create a new folder in applications to extract to
[03:15] <elknof1> OOD, i already solve it..  it was about a mp3 decoder for k3b...  but is done... thanks anyway
[03:15] <Lunar_Raven> if you want to do that all graphically, just ksedu konqueror
[03:15] <Lunar_Raven> try that
[03:15] <Lunar_Raven> then you can do it all through the file manager
[03:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Uh, 'sudo tar zxvfp firefox-version.tar.gz -C /usr/share/applications'?
[03:15] <Lunar_Raven> excuse me ... kdesu konqueror
[03:15] <Lunar_Raven> yeah
[03:15] <will> what do you mean ksedu konqueror
[03:16] <Lunar_Raven> do you know how to use konsoles and such?
[03:16] <will> sort of
[03:16] <will> I can get to it
[03:16] <will> used dos a little ten years ago
[03:16] <Lunar_Raven> you'd open konsole (from the menu)
[03:16] <Lunar_Raven> and run:
[03:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> will: If you can't get it to extract where you want it, extract it to you desktop (or somewhere), and the copy it to /usr/share/applications
[03:17] <Lunar_Raven> kdesu konqueror   this  allows you to run konqueror with 'super rights'
[03:17] <Lunar_Raven> then you can graphically copy things to where you want..despite the location
[03:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or a shortcut 'kdesu konqueror /usr/share/applications' ;)
[03:19] <will> well I got the same error
[03:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> What error?
[03:19] <will> baddevice....failed to open device...
[03:19] <Lunar_Raven> I don't understand? what error
[03:19] <Lunar_Raven> konqueror never came up?
[03:19] <will> will@Wills-laptop:~$ kdesu konqueror
[03:19] <will> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[03:19] <will>   Major opcode:  145
[03:19] <will>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:19] <will>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:19] <will> Failed to open device
[03:19] <will> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[03:19] <will>   Major opcode:  145
[03:19] <will>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:19] <will>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:19] <will> Failed to open device
[03:20] <OOD> that happens, ignore that
[03:20] <OOD> and use pastebin from now on
[03:20] <Lunar_Raven> it still should pop up
[03:20] <OOD> !pastebin
[03:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:20] <Lunar_Raven> it does, correct?
[03:20] <will> nothing popped up
[03:21] <will> I'm going to save this convo and work on it later.  got to run,  Thanks for all the help.  I'll get it down soon enough
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, bye.
[03:22] <Grundee> I am having trouble with a process called gam_server. It eats up all of my CPU when my screensaver is on, and it still uses a lot when it is off. I tried killall gam_server, but it comes back. I read online that this program does this sometimes, what can I do to fix it?
[03:23] <TheHighChild> Grundee: Amarok uses this. I've heard about it quite a bit from people
[03:24] <Grundee> Yes, I am using Amarok; what can be done about this?
[03:24] <TheHighChild> Grundee: Off hand, nothing I know but I'll take a look, brb in a few
[03:28] <MehAdult> !java
[03:28] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:28] <TheHighChild> Grundee: Are you running x86_64?
[03:28] <thompa> well i solved one problem by removing windows. my sony disks dont work on vaio so windows is impossible to install anyway
[03:29] <thompa> stupid morons at sony
[03:29] <thompa> i used transgaming for the one game in ubuntu and it seems to work so far
[03:30] <thompa> sony shipped me xp pro and home edition replacements 4 times now and none work
[03:31] <TheHighChild> thompa: Do they boot and just not install or do they not boot at all?
[03:31] <thompa> its a vaio notebook with nvidia, the sound jack broke a while back and they replaced the whole mobo
[03:31] <thompa> i think thats the problem
[03:31] <DarkAudit> I've got sonypi in /etc/modules on my VAIO notebook, but when I check system settings for notebooks, Kubuntu claims it can't find the module
[03:32] <thompa> it says machine is wrong or something, and the drivers are impossible to install if you use a generic xp disk
[03:32] <l091548> evening all
[03:33] <thompa> you have to boot with linux live actually to get it working in windows,
[03:33] <thompa> DarkAudit: it doesnt work
[03:33] <thompa> DarkAudit: what model you have?
[03:34] <beemer> anyone good at upgrading/changing kernels and keeping the nvidia drivers working?  It keeps hanging at boot with a "can't find driver nvidia" whenever I try
[03:34] <TheHighChild> Grundee: Any work on your arch?
[03:34] <thompa> i use keybindings and can control sound
[03:34] <DarkAudit> thompa: argh! now I have to go look :p :)
[03:34] <thompa> well are you sure its a vaio notebook firstly
[03:35] <DarkAudit> thompa: model PCG-7D2L
[03:36] <thompa> euro model
[03:36] <thompa> whats the FS..?  model
[03:36] <DarkAudit> brb again :)
[03:37] <thompa> 1.73G isit that one?
[03:37] <thompa> 512M
[03:37] <thompa> nevermind i found it
[03:37] <thompa> mines a 660w, runs at 100c
[03:38] <thompa> 95c currently
[03:38] <thompa> DarkAudit: its same casing as mine exactly
[03:39] <thompa> i removed windows completely from it the nvidia is 128R 1Gram
[03:40] <DarkAudit> thompa: FS740
[03:40] <thompa> DarkAudit: does it have nvidia?
[03:41] <DarkAudit> i915
[03:41] <thompa> DarkAudit: you have to install sonypyi first
[03:41] <thompa> then your in good shape,
[03:41] <thompa> mines an overheater but faster
[03:42] <thompa> the i915 will do some 3d stuff actuallly in linux
[03:44] <DarkAudit> thompa: isn't the sonypi module already part of the stock kernel?
[03:44] <thompa> acpi is what works now
[03:44] <thompa> battery status is wrong no matter what you do
[03:45] <thompa> sonypi is part of kernel
[03:46] <thompa> DarkAudit: youonly need to fix brightness control
[03:46] <DarkAudit> so the module should load if it's in /etc/modules
[03:46] <thompa> the vaio-stat source is in synaptics, thats what it says
[03:47] <DarkAudit> thompa: ok... thx :)
[03:47] <thompa> for me i had to confiugre shortcuts for volume its very simple
[03:47] <thompa> how do you turn up volume without the mouse?
[03:47] <beemer> little knob on the speaker
[03:48] <thompa> for brightness install spicctrl
[03:48] <OOD> or alsamixer in terminal
[03:48] <thompa> OOD: i need to try that
[03:49] <thompa> DarkAudit: search in synaptic keyword "sony" there are the programs
[04:05] <dan_> does anyone know if you can uninstall programs that you've installed manualy
[04:05] <dan_> hello
[04:06] <dan_> anyone in here?
[04:06] <TheHighChild> dan_ sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:07] <TheHighChild> or go to Kmenu > Add/Remove Programs
[04:07] <dan_> well yeah but
[04:07] <dan_> what if i downloaded the file as a tar
[04:07] <dan_> and did the whole config and make stuff
[04:07] <TheHighChild> I would suggest reading the README and seeing if it creates an uninstall script or gives instructions on how to remove
[04:08] <dan_> ok
[04:08] <dan_> thanx
[04:11] <elknof1> !paste
[04:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:33] <Cornellius> What's the easiest way of update X to ver. 7 ?
[04:35] <bob_4_a_day> what is missing when i get this error ?
[04:35] <bob_4_a_day> setupterm failed: 0
[04:35] <bob_4_a_day> So we'll be running in dumb mode...
[04:35] <bob_4_a_day> 'linux': unknown terminal type.
[04:35] <Zaire> !nvidia
[04:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:37] <abattoir> Cornellius: dapper comes w/ ver.7.... doesnt it?
[04:37] <abattoir> !info xserver-xorg
[04:37] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[04:37] <Cornellius> You're right
[04:37] <bob_4_a_day> what provides loadkeys ?
[04:37] <bob_4_a_day> bash: loadkeys: command not found
[04:43] <alexicon> hello
[04:43] <alexicon> what tools do you guys recommend for wifi?
[04:43] <alexicon> im trying to setup and use wifi on my home network
[04:44] <alexicon> but this wireless assisntant thing doesnt seem to want to work
[04:44] <abattoir> alexicon: knetworkmanager ?
[04:44] <alexicon> thanks i'll try that
[04:44] <abattoir> !info knetworkmanager
[04:44] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[04:45] <alexicon> :)
[04:45] <max_> help with orinoco card under dapper plz, breezy worked the old kernel on old dapper worked.  its just a proxim orinoco silver b/g card every distro ive tried supports it out of box..
[04:47] <Ashex> grr
[04:47] <Ashex> this angers me
[04:47] <Ashex> i can't play music on my main partition in amarok
[04:47] <Ashex> but it'll play in xmms
[04:48] <abattoir> max_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/OrinocoKismet ?? But as the doc says, you should probably follow only the last part
[04:48] <Ashex> all the music on my ntfs partition plays fine in amarok too
[04:48] <Ashex> >:(
[04:48] <max_> abattoir: ill try it thx
[04:48] <bob_4_a_day> what provides loadkeys ?
[04:51] <bob_4_a_day> somebody ?
[04:52] <abattoir> bob_4_a_day: its installed for me by default...
[04:52] <bob_4_a_day> abattoir yeah so ?    i need to know what package it's in.    can you do a dpkg -something and tell me ?
[04:53] <abattoir> bob_4_a_day: wait... i'm searching
[04:54] <daveman> so, uh... I have a question about APT and broken packages... what do I do when APT thinks a package is broken and it's not?
[04:55] <bob_4_a_day> daveman sudo apt-get install -f
[04:56] <daveman> the game Tremulous depends on the latest version of libc6, right?  but Ubuntu uses a different version of libc6
[04:56] <abattoir> bob_4_a_day: i cant find it, but from the man pages, i think its something like console tools, i 'll check...
[04:57] <nnn0> daveman ?
[04:57] <daveman> the problem is Tremulous isn't in any of the repositories I know of for Debian or Ubuntu... I installed it myself
[04:57] <JRH3K5> Where should I seek help with a simple case's power LED question?
[04:57] <bob_4_a_day> abattoir k thanks.
[04:57] <abattoir> !info console-tools
[04:57] <ubotu> console-tools: Linux console and font utilities. In repository main, is important. Version 1:0.2.3dbs-60ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 287 kB, installed size 892 kB
[04:57] <abattoir> bob_4_a_day: try that out ^^^^^^
[04:58] <nnn0> hm daveman, you are not Daveman ?
[04:58] <bob_4_a_day> yeah i think that's probably it abattoir,  thanks !
[04:58] <daveman> I don't think I'm that Daveman... this is my username in Linux.  I've never used IRC with this name before
[04:58] <daveman> ...
[04:59] <nnn0> k cause it's another Daveman here, he's not online now it seems :)
[04:59] <bob_4_a_day> now i wish i could install it.
[04:59] <max_> hmm during install it detected wifi card fine as ath0 i checked iftab and interfaces files and they are right but iwconfig shows a sit0 device that does not work my ath0 is nowhere to be found..
[05:00] <somebody_else> nnn0, I bet the other Daveman was online when I was and that's why whatever IRC client I might have used before gave me a different name
[05:00] <nnn0> hehe
[05:00] <alexicon> anyone here use wifi on a dell laptop? :P
[05:01] <alexicon> ive not been able to get this thing working, but maybe its the wpa encryption it doesnt like...
[05:01] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm this could be bad.   nano wont run.
[05:01] <somebody_else> so... about my problem.  "apt-get install -f" wants to uninstall the game I found.  I was hoping there was a way around that
[05:01] <max_> is there a plumb command or similar in ubuntu?
[05:02] <digitalslacker> does anybody have ideas as to why I would be getting messages from adept saying that the package manager is already in use by another program when it's a fresh boot?
[05:03] <bob_4_a_day> somebody_else was it a .deb package (assumes so seeing apt wants to rm it)   can you go ahead and let it rm the game then reinstall it and watch closely to see if it burps out errors...
[05:03] <alexicon> digitalslacker: ps -ef | grep apt      see whats running
[05:04] <digitalslacker> alexicon: it only comes up with the command I just issued
[05:04] <bob_4_a_day> somebody_else as long as one package is partly installed the package manager is going to have trubble...
[05:04] <alexicon> hrmm..
[05:04] <alexicon> even does that after you restart the application?
[05:04] <somebody_else> bob_4_a_day, it was a .deb package... I used some kind of package manager and it said it wanted a different version of libc6... I made it install and configure without regarding the dependency
[05:04] <digitalslacker> yeah
[05:04] <alexicon> @_@
[05:05] <alexicon> can you run apt-get commands on their own?
[05:05] <bob_4_a_day> digitalslacker stale lock file maybe ?
[05:05] <somebody_else> what's digitalslacker?
[05:05] <digitalslacker> I just tried sudo apt-get clean and it went successfully, but autoclean comes up bad
[05:05] <knapper> hey how do I install a kdm theme? kde-look.org says put it in ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes, but it doesn't exist.
[05:06] <somebody_else> oh... nevermind
[05:06] <bob_4_a_day> somebody_else yeah that's what breaks theing.   'don't force it.  just use a bigger hammer.'
[05:06] <digitalslacker> ah ha, it was a failed install
[05:07] <max_> anyone here have proxim orinoco pcmcia card working in dapper?
[05:07] <Cntryboy> Anyone ever used xvidcap?
[05:07] <bob_4_a_day> alexicon adept/synaptic/aptitude/apt are all frontends for the 'debian package manager' dpkg    and yes any of them can be called from the command line.
[05:08] <alexicon> sorry bob_4_a_day wasnt a question i was asking digitalslacker if he could
[05:08] <bob_4_a_day> oh missread you.  my bad.
[05:08] <somebody_else> bob_4_a_day   the game wants libc6 >= 2.3.6-6... I have libc6 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[05:10] <digitalslacker> alexicon: thanks, that did point me in the right direction. It was a failed mythtv installation. Thought it might be something to play with, but I guess not
[05:10] <alexicon> np
[05:11] <skiddex> anyone here have trouble installing gdm with amd k6/7?
[05:11] <somebody_else> I've had conflicts with non-supported games that need libc6 version 2.3.6-6 and run just fine with the version I have, but seem to think that my version is lower
[05:11] <bob_4_a_day> !info libc6
[05:11] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In repository main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[05:12] <somebody_else> every other time, I've simply uninstalled the game
[05:12] <bob_4_a_day> somebody_else looks like you'll have to wait a little while or do some installing from scratch.
[05:13] <somebody_else> bob_4_a_day ...wait a little while for what?
[05:13] <skiddex> kde runs fine on my k6/k7 machines but gdm dd hangs at the desktop load (black screen of death)
[05:13] <alexicon> how can i get a wireless card configured??
[05:13] <bob_4_a_day> later release of libv6 to hit the repos
[05:13] <alexicon> i believe its eth1, and it says up
[05:13] <alexicon> but im unable to scan anything
[05:13] <alexicon> and i know theres at least 4-5 networks in my area
[05:14] <somebody_else> it seems like programs designed for Debian or other distros have trouble with version numbers that have words in them
[05:15] <bob_4_a_day> skiddex 'black screen of death'  hehhe.    when that happens try  [alt] +[SysRQ] +[R]    and  then  [alt] +[ctrl] +[f1]   sometimes you can get to a console....
[05:16] <max_> skiddex: no problem except with latest nvidia driver install.. but vesa worked fine
[05:16] <bob_4_a_day> if not then [alt] +[SysRQ] +[E]   should kill everything but the base system.
[05:16] <max_> alexicon: iwconfig shows it as a wireless device?
[05:17] <skiddex> it just hangs at the desktop load - i am on kde live dapper now and no problem at all
[05:17] <alexicon> yep max_
[05:17] <max_> alexicon: but iwlist eth1 scan reports nothing?
[05:17] <luc45> where is the kmenu directory?
[05:17] <somebody_else> is there a way to make APT and/or DPKG not care about a specific package's unmet dependencies?  a game won't break anything else and it works just fine even though it's flagged as broken
[05:17] <alexicon> max_: no scan results :/
[05:17] <skiddex> i just wanted gdm for the gaim app anyway cuz i like the linux room but can't have everything i guess
[05:17] <skiddex> kde works great live
[05:18] <max_> alexicon: what kind of card?
[05:18] <bob_4_a_day> i have lost the display altogather and the system still be working  'bsod'  in which case one can use any normal command....  just have to fly blind....    lot's of fun.
[05:18] <alexicon> its in a dell inspiron 600m laptop
[05:18] <alexicon> not sure
[05:19] <Search4Lancer> how do I extract an ace archive?
[05:19] <alexicon> think its an intel mini pci wireless card
[05:19] <bob_4_a_day> gdm=gaim usable ????    i didn't know gaim required gdm.
[05:19] <alexicon> is there a way i can find the details in proc or something?
[05:19] <skiddex> running this off an old hp xt936 and its pretty snappy
[05:20] <alexicon> it seems to recognise that its there, but i dunno why it wont scan anything
[05:20] <bob_4_a_day> skiddex do you have gaim installed?
[05:20] <skiddex> no gaim is on the ubuntu distro - which won't run
[05:20] <max_> alexicon: well you could try sudo nano /etc/iftab and change eth1 to like wlan0 i think thats the normal entry for intel wireless card but dunno if that would help anything..
[05:20] <bob_4_a_day> skiddex so install it
[05:21] <bob_4_a_day> skiddex sudo apt-get install gaim
[05:21] <skiddex> this is a live cd so i'll just find another live distro with gaim
[05:21] <alexicon> max_: think i can add duplicate entry and just change the name on the second to wlan0
[05:21] <skiddex> maybe knoppix i like it
[05:21] <alexicon> hrm i'll just add a new line actually :P
[05:22] <bob_4_a_day> skiddex oh.  you don't install linux ?
[05:22] <skiddex> no i have to stay on windows for business
[05:22] <bob_4_a_day> skiddex it runs much better installed...      dual-boot
[05:22] <max_> skiddex: thats what vmware is for :)
[05:22] <skiddex> but like to use linux in my spare time
[05:22] <skiddex> yeah i know
[05:23] <somebody_else> skiddex   you could try Slax ...it's customizeable www.slax.org
[05:23] <skiddex> yeah i have slax and dsl knoppix berry and ubuntu to tshoot various systems
[05:24] <skiddex> mostly winblos stuff
[05:24] <bob_4_a_day> all you need is a couple G of free (unpartitioned) hdd space.    and install it.      'backup data first there is always the chance that something might go wrong might go wrong might go wrong might go wrong
[05:25] <skiddex> lol that's what i thought
[05:25] <skiddex> anyway  linux is stable enough
[05:25] <bob_4_a_day> skiddex same chance exists with the live cd's
[05:25] <skiddex> better than any others for my way of thinking
[05:25] <somebody_else> skiddex  ...there is a Windows app that can add modules to a Slax ISO image... you can use that to put Gaim and any other software you need on one of those... right?
[05:26] <skiddex> yeah but if they mount hd as ro i usually find its pretty safe
[05:26] <skiddex> wow its late
[05:26] <skiddex> thanks for the chat
[05:27] <skiddex> will cya  later
[05:27] <skiddex> gnite
[05:28] <elknof1> #kubuntu-es
[05:28] <elknof1> deam
[05:36] <bob_4_a_day> hmm over 250m of the default install is oo.o    figures
[05:39] <digitalslacker> okay, another problem I just noticed. My monitor settings (ie: power saving turned off and gamma turned off *dim monitor*) don't seem to save after restarting X
[05:39] <digitalslacker> gamma turned up**
[05:46] <JRH3K5> Anyone here know why icecast isn't binding to socket on port 8000?
[05:46] <JRH3K5> Because #icecast is a graveyard
[05:46] <JRH3K5> And Google's overrun with German.
[05:51] <Ashex> what's the name of the package that adds System Settings to the Kmenu
[05:51] <Ashex> mine dissapeared
[05:52] <digitalslacker> Ashex: right click the taskbar> configure panel> Menus > it's an option in the "optional menus" pane on the right
[05:53] <bob_4_a_day> Ashex also of note,  all customization is stored in ~/.kde/<things>   you can change it back,  or just rm the whole thing.  that will reset kde to defaults.
[05:53] <Ashex> It's not in there
[05:54] <Ashex> yesterday when i was attempting to setup xgl, a lot of packages just vanished
[05:54] <Ashex> haven't a clue why, but i've been adding them back in as I spot them
[05:54] <digitalslacker> Ashex: it should be marked as just "Settings" (8th item from the top)
[05:55] <bob_4_a_day> install kubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <digitalslacker> also, try running kcontrol to see if it comes up
[05:56] <Ashex> I have Kontrol
[05:56] <Ashex> but i was wondering about the kubuntu system control
[05:56] <bob_4_a_day> eeek disk full.....
[05:57] <digitalslacker> Ashex: alright, we were thinking of two different things. Try running "systemsettings" to see if that comes up
[05:58] <Ashex> nope, doesn't exist
[05:58] <Ashex> I looked in adept
[05:58] <Ashex> and kubuntu-desktop isn't installed
[05:58] <bob_4_a_day> install kubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <Ashex> something tells me that should be there
[05:59] <Lord_Athur> i all, what do i have to do to become ubuntero in launchpad?
[06:00] <digitalslacker> kubuntui-desktop is only used as an overall. It's a bypass to get an all-in-one install. The package for systemsettings is called "kde-systemsettings"
[06:00] <bob_4_a_day> nope kubuntu-desktop is not nessary at all.  it's a meta package,   i.e. empty package that depends on other things....
[06:01] <digitalslacker> however, installing kubuntu-desktop would probably bring back anything that's missing now as far as default installed apps
[06:01] <Ashex> so the package is more a wrapper of a bunch of other packages
[06:02] <bob_4_a_day> install kubuntu-desktop
[06:02] <Ashex> Yup
[06:02] <Ashex> it brought back system settings
[06:02] <Ashex> which brings up another problem
[06:02] <Ashex> it's empty :/
[06:03] <Ashex> bleh
[06:03] <bob_4_a_day> probably not.    a restart of X might fix that.
[06:03] <Ashex> and now Kontrol is gone
[06:03] <Ashex> I'll give it a shot
[06:05] <Zaire> k does anyone in here know what woul cause ktorrent to crash completly
[06:06] <Generic> Yup
[06:06] <Generic> It's all good now
[06:06] <Zaire> it says ktorrent crashed and caused the signal6 SIGBART
[06:06] <digitalslacker> Zaire: what were you doing when it crashed?
[06:06] <Zaire> opening a torrent file
[06:07] <digitalslacker> have you tried a different torrent to make sure it's not a bad file or or something?
[06:08] <Zaire> yep and same thing
[06:09] <Zaire> ktorrent was working fine then it just crashed
[06:09] <fiyawerx> well if it has one bad file in it, won't it try to load that file each time it starts up?
[06:10] <fiyawerx> maybe have to remove that torrent manually first from the konsole?
[06:10] <fiyawerx> if thats what may be causing it
[06:10] <digitalslacker> try opening from konsole to see if there are any hints in the debug
[06:10] <Zaire> wouldn't have a clue how to remove a torrent file
[06:11] <bob_4_a_day> what was the first computer bug ?
[06:11] <digitalslacker> a moth
[06:11] <Zaire> http://pastebin.ca/90941
[06:12] <bob_4_a_day> A;  a moth.      trapped between the contacts of a relay.
[06:14] <Zaire> !rm
[06:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:15] <bob_4_a_day> !cli
[06:15] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:16] <bob_4_a_day> hmmm seems that they even casterated that info-node
[06:16] <Zaire> k how the hell do I remove packages then
[06:16] <digitalslacker> close ktorrent, open a console and try removing the program profile (rm -r -f .kde/share/apps/ktorrent)
[06:16] <bob_4_a_day> apt-get remove <package-name>
[06:16] <bob_4_a_day> as root
[06:17] <Zaire> kubuntu has no root only sudo
[06:17] <digitalslacker> sudo apt-get remove <package-name> is the same as doing it as root
[06:18] <Zaire> there it was sudo apt-get remove --purge
[06:18] <Zaire> needed the --purge on the end to
[06:18] <bob_4_a_day> bull shit on the 'has no root'    evey time you issue  'sudo <blah> '  you run blah as root.
[06:18] <Zaire> thats not root thats super user capability theres a difference
[06:19] <Zaire> its still limited where as root is not
[06:19] <bob_4_a_day> the only super user there is is  "root"
[06:19] <digitalslacker> you can also sudo into a joe schmoe account, not just SU
[06:19] <Zaire> but root is inactive by default
[06:19] <Zaire> you have to activate the root account
[06:19] <bob_4_a_day> and no.  the default *ubuntu's  sudo is not limited.
[06:20] <bob_4_a_day> Zaire no.
[06:20] <Zaire> funny I couldn't sudo files for vsftpd on my server I had to activate the root account to do so
[06:20] <bob_4_a_day> Zaire you are talking through your hat.    type  sudo -i     and then   whoami
[06:21] <digitalslacker> root is not disabled, root login is
[06:21] <fiyawerx> you can change sudo to only give accounts access to predefined commands i believe
[06:21] <fiyawerx> like the way it works on Unix
[06:21] <red-night> hello
[06:21] <fiyawerx> at least where I work thats how it's set up, you can't just run sudo <anything>
[06:22] <fiyawerx> very tight security
[06:22] <Zaire> the only way to login as root is in cli gui is unable Ive tried
[06:22] <unix_infidel> cli gui?
[06:22] <unix_infidel> wtf?
[06:22] <bob_4_a_day> Zaire you are talking through your hat again.
[06:23] <Zaire> and root is inactive till you assign a pass to it a friend of mine knows more about root and cli then I do and he told me all about that little feature
[06:23] <|naturaljoe|> ......
[06:23] <digitalslacker> those 3 evil words... "friend of mine"
[06:23] <bob_4_a_day> Zaire and obviously neither of you know much about them.
[06:24] <Zaire> he's a second year programmer and started with linux before me and Ive been at it for 5 years
[06:24] <fiyawerx> which means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of thinsg
[06:24] <fiyawerx> you can use it for a while and still not know what your talking about
[06:24] <bob_4_a_day> slow learner eeh
[06:25] <fiyawerx> i work with guys that have been in IT 30 years and don't know how bookmarks work
[06:25] <fiyawerx> don't ask them about mainframe commands tho or you'[re done for
[06:25] <digitalslacker> and I have a friend that's been using Linux since Slackware was first released and he still can't compile
[06:25] <fiyawerx> heh
[06:25] <Zaire> yea and trust me my friend isnt a dimwit like that
[06:25] <fiyawerx> Zaire: of course not
[06:25] <fiyawerx> Zaire: what i defined isn't a dimwit, either
[06:26] <fiyawerx> but length of experience in a related field != credibility all over
[06:26] <Zaire> not knowing how to bookmark takes a dimwit computer illiterate -_-
[06:26] <fiyawerx> and you believe him just because he has more experience than you
[06:26] <fiyawerx> there's a term for that
[06:26] <fiyawerx> crap whats it called, its a good one
[06:26] <fiyawerx> false authority syndrome or something?
[06:26] <fiyawerx> Zaire: do you know how to IPL a mainframe region?
[06:27] <fiyawerx> if not, they'd call you a dimwit
[06:27] <fiyawerx> it's al relative
[06:27] <Zaire> I only do ftp stuff for personal use so no I don't
[06:27] <Zaire> and desktop aswell
[06:27] <bob_4_a_day> Zaire you should stop now, and cut your loses.    too late to save face, just save ass, and drop it.
[06:27] <Lynoure> hmm
[06:31] <fiyawerx> heh
[06:31] <fiyawerx> need to quote that one
[06:31] <fiyawerx> Zaire has left this server ("Universal_constant_ask_for_help_in_linux_get_stuck_up_prick_attitude").
[06:32] <bob_4_a_day> so much for much for not being a dimwit....
[06:33] <digitalslacker> hehe, at he should try Slackware to see what kind of response comes from there
[06:33] <bob_4_a_day> or debian
[06:34] <bob_4_a_day> gentoo even
[06:34] <Lynoure> I have never gotten offensive responses on #debian, but I guess I have been lucky,,.
[06:35] <digitalslacker> I know that when I was on Slackware, I watched the IRC to see how many times "rtfm" was said
[06:35] <Lynoure> when "man foo" is common here too
[06:35] <digitalslacker> I ran out of fingers and toes
[06:36] <Lynoure> Sometimes I really don't feel like explaning things in the man for a user that can read it him/herself
[06:36] <Lynoure> And sometimes I feel like saying utfg :)
[06:36] <bob_4_a_day> Lynoure you have obviously never tried to tell them that sudo was not root but super-user,  and then goint a big spill about how much you know about it cause your friend told you so....   hehhe     but at any rate.     no i have never gotten offensive responses anyplace except from those that "thought they knew, and didn't"   and you can find that anywhere.
[06:37] <Lynoure> bob_4_a_day: well, everone makes mistakes.
[06:37] <bob_4_a_day> yeah   agreed.
[06:38] <bob_4_a_day> some more than others tho.
[06:38] <fiyawerx> i try not to rtfm, i'll google stuff for people, or use !'s when i know its there
[06:38] <fiyawerx> er to tell them rtfm heh
[06:38] <fiyawerx> besides, a 3 second google makes you look good a lto for noobs :)
[06:38] <Lynoure> bob_4_a_day: and as far as I know sudo does come from the words "superuser do".... :)
[06:39] <Lynoure> lto?
[06:39] <Lynoure> Sorry, I'm  a bit acronym blind.
[06:39] <abattoir> i guess that's lot... or is it not?
[06:39] <bob_4_a_day> yes Lynoure,  and the superuser is ???     that's right.  'root'
[06:40] <Lynoure> bob_4_a_day: Yes, never said it wasn't.
[06:41] <bob_4_a_day> i know.   but "<Zaire> thats not root thats super user capability theres a difference  <Zaire> its still limited where as root is not  <Zaire> you have to activate the root account "    ^^^   that's what just happened here.   and that's all i was on about.
[06:41] <digitalslacker> hey, if I remember correctly (and I refuse to lay money or my memory), but wasn't dapper supposed to have a different gui for apt?
[06:42] <bob_4_a_day> adapt synaptic ???     idk.
[06:42] <Lynoure> bob_4_a_day: I do have logs. It was an unpleasant conversation to see the first time.
[06:43] <digitalslacker> oh well, I thought I saw something different on one of the earlier beta releases
[06:43] <bob_4_a_day> oh thought you might have just stumbled in...
[06:45] <JRH3K5> Okay.
[06:45] <Lynoure> bob_4_a_day: no, I seem to be here pretty much 24/7, but I did just wake uo, that's why I didn't ! at you all :)
[06:45] <JRH3K5> So, I'm trying to generate a password for Icecast.
[06:45] <bob_4_a_day> kpackage
[06:45] <JRH3K5> But makepasswd keeps using a new seed every time.
[06:45] <maryham> hi to all
[06:45] <digitalslacker> well, work beckons in 6 hours, so goodnight all
[06:46] <bob_4_a_day> so you on staf around her Lynoure ?
[06:46] <maryham> I just install the new Dapper and I can  not mount my cdrom. Anyone can help?
[06:47] <maryham> I just install the new Dapper and I can  not mount my cdrom. Anyone can help?
[06:47] <Lynoure> bob_4_a_day: No. Not getting paid for this.
[06:47] <bob_4_a_day> maryham third time's a charm...     sudo mount /cdrom
[06:48] <bob_4_a_day> maryham but you do know that you don't mount audio cd's....
[06:48] <maryham> bob_4_a_day, thx
[06:48] <bob_4_a_day> np
[06:49] <maryham> I do not want mount audio cd, I just want use my cdrom...
[06:49] <bob_4_a_day> yeah   sudo mount /cdrom      and sudo eject     are your friends.
[06:50] <maryham> but not working!!
[06:50] <bob_4_a_day> or maybe even   pmount /cdrom          i never tried that.
[06:50] <samo> erm... I thought that hald/udev/kde/whatever took care of that automagically :$
[06:50] <OOD> it should
[06:50] <Lynoure> *nod*
[06:50] <OOD> just pop in a cd and you get a menu
[06:51] <bob_4_a_day> maryham hmmm ok   lets have a look at the fstab.       grep -e cdrom /etc/fstab
[06:51] <maryham> I have this error/message "unknown file system type supermount"
[06:52] <samo> is it a burned/data cd??
[06:52] <Lynoure> maryham: What filesystem does your cdrom have? mac cd I'd expect to cause that.
[06:52] <maryham> no
[06:52] <michel> Hi
[06:52] <maryham> pc cdrom
[06:53] <maryham> I am on a laptop
[06:53] <maryham> Dell
[06:53] <michel> Anyone has a atheros wifi card under dapper?
[06:54] <Lynoure> michel: they are not that uncommon, have you googled to solve your problem already?
[06:54] <samo> maryham: does it happen only with that cdrom, or have you tried with other cds already
[06:54] <maryham> ok, let change cd
[06:56] <maryham> I can see the cd Icon on my desktop but when i am trying to open I have a message"only root can mount"
[06:56] <maryham> No, same error
[06:57] <samo> maryham: what (k)ubuntu version do you have?
[06:57] <maryham> I try to change setting through the system settings but no success
[06:57] <maryham> Dapper
[06:57] <Lynoure> maryham: do you have a line vague similar to the following in your /etc/fstab :
[06:57] <Lynoure> maryham: /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:57] <maryham> yes I do
[06:58] <maryham> do you mean on my settings?
[06:58] <Lynoure> maryham: the "user" bit there is the one that should allow a normal user to mount the cdrom
[06:58] <michel> Lynoure yes
[06:58] <bob_4_a_day> type this back to me.
[06:58] <bob_4_a_day> /exec -o mount | grep cdrom
[06:59] <michel> I have found a reference to my bug and a solution but I do not get it to fully work.
[06:59] <maryham> ok, let me try to change the settings
[06:59] <michel> In part because I do not understand something in the solution....
[06:59] <Lynoure> maryham: don't copy it exactly unless you know what you are doing, your cd drive might be a different device than mine.
[07:00] <michel> Lynoure: do you know anything about the ath drivers?
[07:00] <maryham> ok Lynoure. Let me try change some settings
[07:00] <Lynoure> michel: I don't use them myself, sorry. So nothing too specific
[07:00] <michel> Hmmm maybe I should switch to SuSE. I hear it does not have the bug....
[07:01] <michel> Lynoure: how does one install a package's source code?
[07:02] <Generic> michel, check the man for mount
[07:02] <Lynoure> michel: But if the source has the bug you'd prolly want to go get teh newest source you can, and just get the stuff you need for building it
[07:02] <Generic> there's a bit in there about setting the uid
[07:03] <Generic> I had the problem with my ntfs drives
[07:03] <Generic> I forget which option it is, but one of these is what you need: umask=007,gid=46
[07:04] <bob_4_a_day> no uid bit on iso*
[07:05] <Generic> do a cat /etc/fstab and paste the line with the cdrom
[07:05] <michel> Lynoure the trouble is a difference in module names between the ubuntu standard release and the latest source code
[07:05] <Lynoure> michel: apt-get source <packagename> anyway, but do take that comment in considiration. Sucks to compile something just to find out it was the buggy version
[07:06] <michel> Lynoure: I am able to install the new drivers and make them work, but not in combination with the NetworkManager
[07:06] <michel> Someone posted a patch to NetworkManager but I want to patch the ubuntu version, not the general release
[07:08] <Lynoure> michel: sounds like a good idea. Maybe even share the result, might get the problem fixed faster in ubuntu.
[07:09] <michel> Well to start with I need to know how to install it then... :) Does synaptic allow to install the source of something?
[07:09] <Lynoure> michel: I've never tried that with synaptic. On apt it's dirt easy.
[07:11] <michel> Lynoure... I tried.... trouble: apt-get source network-manager
[07:11] <michel> result:
[07:12] <michel> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_dapper_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[07:12] <fiyawerx> apt-get update work?
[07:12] <Lynoure> michel: hmm
[07:13] <michel> fiawerx: says some index files failed to download. they have been ignored
[07:13] <Lynoure> michel: they do exist, you could try another mirror...  (I get them fine here)
[07:14] <michel> I removed the freecontrib from the sources.list
[07:15] <michel> How do I get the list of files it installed?
[07:15] <maryham> Lynoure, I am going to trow that PC in garbage!!!
[07:16] <Lynoure> michel: apt-get does mention them when unpacking, usually packagename_version.dsc .tar.gz and .diff.gz
[07:16] <maryham> Why I have a message "unknown supermount file"
[07:16] <Lynoure> maryham: Quoting a Dell support person I used to know "you may, Ma'am, but it will not work any better after that"
[07:17] <samo> rotfl
[07:17] <michel> but where does it put them?
[07:17] <michel> ah... wherever I am...
[07:17] <michel> weird idea
[07:17] <Lynoure> michel: in the directory you were in when you typed the command (if you used synaptic, beats me)
[07:18] <maryham> Lynoure, my cdrom was working fine with the breezybadger
[07:18] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:18] <Lynoure> maryham: can you put your /etc/fstab in a pastebin ?
[07:19] <Lynoure> maryham: did you manage to mount by help of sudo? If not, you might want to reboot with a live cd to make sure your drive still works
[07:20] <fiyawerx> and if you don't have a live cd, you can try to burn one to see if your drive still works...
[07:20] <fiyawerx> ;)
[07:21] <Lynoure> fiyawerx: :)
[07:21] <samo> erm... a silly question... if I had to install 5.10 first, then upgrade to 6.04, since the monitor is too old, how do I enable the splash screen on startup?
[07:22] <nikkiana> does anyone know if there's a way to disable that annoying click on the touchpad thing if you're using a touchpad on a laptop?
[07:22] <Lynoure> samo: old monitor should not force that, but you might have to do some manual configuring in xorg confs
[07:22] <abattoir> nikkiana: try qsynaptics/ksynaptics... it has a 'Tap:Off' option
[07:23] <abattoir> nikkiana: or you can manipulate the synaptics driver by hand
[07:23] <Generic> anyone aware of a xchat plugin/script for xmms?
[07:23] <nikkiana> abattoir: ooh. i'll check it out. thanks.
[07:23] <abattoir> nikkiana: funny, i had the same thought in my mind, as you typed your message. :)
[07:23] <maryham> hello Lynoure, I just try a music cd and it works,,Why not data?
[07:24] <samo> lynoure: I can get to kdm and kde fine after lilo and init finish the boot process, I just don't get the blue logo over black background screen
[07:25] <nicc> on ubuntu 6.06 - kdevelop seems to have "lost" all the online documentation (perl especially). i have installed kde from ubuntu. does any one know if all documentation is intact in kubuntu 6.06 - or is there a package that you know of that contain all te docs? thanks!
[07:27] <Lynoure> maryham: short answer: because they are handled differently. I'm soon off to work, so ask the channel, not me, for more help
[07:27] <Lynoure> samo: but you do get prompted for login?
[07:27] <maryham> thx 4 your time...
[07:28] <samo> nicc: you might try installing kdevelop3-doc
[07:29] <nicc> samo: did that, but no luck. i guess i have to try kubuntu rather and see if that works - maybe the kde install on ubuntu is not as slick ?
[07:29] <samo> lynoure: yes, I see the kdm login theme and I can login, it's just that lilo boots in text only mode
[07:29] <Lynoure> samo: I'm a quite spartan person when it comes to prettiness on the computer, so I've never fiddled with the looks.
[07:30] <samo> lynoure: hehehe np, it's no big issue
[07:31] <samo> nicc: I've only installed kubuntu so I can't comment on the docs availability on the gubuntu side
[07:31] <Lichte> how do I keep kbluetoothd and adept_update from loading up on boot ??  Must I kill them and save the session and then start that session on startup each time or is there another way ?
[07:31] <nicc> samo: thanks
[07:34] <darekdmp> jest tu kto z polski?
[07:34] <crimsun> !pl
[07:34] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:36] <orient2000> pojrz do #ubuntu-pl OK?
[07:37] <Lynoure> samo: one bug looks like it might be related:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/27837 , but of course there can be other reasons, too
[07:37] <|naturaljoe|> gotta love splits
[07:37] <abattoir> another desync?
[07:38] <orient2000> orient2000@rogers.com Polski.
[07:38] <ironfroggy> Do i have to install samba for clients or just servers?
[07:39] <nikkiana> okay, not to sound like a complete and utter moron... now that i've installed ksynaptics, and i've set my settings to what i want them to be, why isn't my touchpad behaving?
[07:46] <TehKewl1> I really need some help...
[07:46] <kickmass> hello everyone.
[07:46] <TehKewl1> Kubuntu didnt like my Geforce 2
[07:46] <unix_infidel> TehKewl1: works fine here.
[07:46] <TehKewl1> hmm
[07:47] <unix_infidel> !3d
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about 3d - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:47] <unix_infidel> !nvidia
[07:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:47] <kickmass> my problem is that I can surf net using IP address but not the FQDN. can anyone help ?
[07:47] <TehKewl1> I had to remove the card, and restart using on board video
[07:48] <TehKewl1> ok I'll restart now,
[07:48] <ironfroggy> I just installed kubuntu on my laptop, and i tried connecting to my samba server. how can i list hosts on the local network?
[07:50] <unix_infidel> ironfroggy: what do you mean by 'list host'
[07:50] <unix_infidel> you're in linux now: host, netbios name etc etc have different meanings.
[07:50] <ironfroggy> unix_infidel: as in, to list the samba hosts on the network.
[07:50] <ironfroggy> ive been in linux.. like i said, its a samba server.
[07:51] <ironfroggy> im just trying to locate the shares so i can access them properly.
[07:51] <unix_infidel> ironfroggy: use smb4k to make your life easier.
[07:52] <ironfroggy> where is that? i dont see it in the package manager.
[07:53] <knapper> ironfroggy: do you mean "smb:///"
[07:53] <unix_infidel> ironfroggy: apt-cache search smb4k
[07:54] <knapper> smb:///<workgroup_name>/
[07:54] <knapper> into konquerer (or Nautilus)
[07:55] <ironfroggy> hmm... i dont see any results for smb4k, and the smb kioslave doesnt seem to be able to connect to my server.
[07:55] <crimsun> !info smb4k
[07:55] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 489 kB, installed size 2032 kB
[07:56] <unix_infidel> ironfroggy: firewall?
[07:56] <ironfroggy> nope.
[07:59] <ironfroggy> also, can i configure a partition to be mountable (an ntfs partition in this case) without editing fstab directly?
[08:01] <ironfroggy> im trying to configure it manually, but i cant remember how to set the permissions for the mounted volume, so only roon can read it.
[08:06] <noiesmo> Hello all
[08:07] <simeon> its me TehKewl1
[08:08] <noiesmo> I have a kubuntu system I was tring to build from source on and it needed the kde headers but i had a conflict thru apt so I used aptitude to try and resolve the conflicts it then removed a heap of files now that system cannot resolve names ie internet or apt-get or xchat etc and I get an operation not permitted when i try and ping from the affected system
[08:08] <lafrance> noiesmo: edit that file you be ok after it
[08:09] <TehKewl1> its making me feel all chlostrophobic at this tiny resolution, and they're are no Icons...
[08:09] <lafrance> could be corupt file
[08:09] <ironfroggy> editing the fstab, how can i specify the permissions of the mounted volume?
[08:09] <ironfroggy> its changing the permissions of my mountpoint.
[08:09] <noiesmo> which file do you suggest i edit I have edit /etc/resolv.conf but no luck
[08:10] <lafrance> hold on grampa just did that a few hours ago
[08:10] <lafrance> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <lafrance> check to see if there to many sources use 1 at the time and # the others
[08:11] <noiesmo> the system obtains an ip address automatically thru dhcp can ssh other system within network just no name resolution happenen
[08:14] <ironfroggy> editing the fstab, how can i specify the permissions of the mounted volume?
[08:14] <ironfroggy> its changing the permissions of my mountpoint currently.
[08:14] <uwo> which is the KDE root directory in Kubuntu?
[08:18] <TehKewl1> WHAT cant you include gcc in a distro
[08:19] <TehKewl1> now I cant make all my perl modules...
[08:22] <marcus__> can i get some network help please?
[08:22] <MuJ> maybe
[08:22] <MuJ> we need to know your problem first :)
[08:23] <marcus__> okay i have it so i can view shares on my windows machine in linux but not on my linux machine in windows
[08:24] <MuJ> http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-share-files-using-samba.html  I think this is what you're looking for
[08:25] <marcus__> thnak you
[08:25] <MuJ> let me know if it works
[08:25] <MuJ> for you :P
[08:30] <maryham> Please I need help. How can you change privilege and permission for file in Dapper?
[08:30] <unix_infidel> man chmod
[08:30] <unix_infidel> man chown
[08:33] <kuzmaster> hello all
[08:33] <MuJ> yo
[08:36] <Kevin_Jim> hi
[08:36] <TehKewl1_> ok it still doesnt even start KDE
[08:37] <TehKewl1_> what do I need to do with the drivers?
[08:37] <lafrance> TehKewl1_: did you just do a dvd install?
[08:38] <TehKewl1_> a cd install
[08:38] <lafrance> dell pc ?
[08:38] <Kevin_Jim> i try to install libc6 2.3.6-15 from a *.deb packeg but it's brokes cause it needed some depedecies so i opes synaptic kai den it give's me a messege that there is e broken packeges
[08:38] <TehKewl1_> and I had to remove my geforce 2
[08:38] <TehKewl1_> and reboot with onboard video
[08:38] <Kevin_Jim> i Find them but i can't fix them neither reinstall them
[08:38] <TehKewl1_> but that only works at 640x480
[08:38] <Kevin_Jim> what can i do ?
[08:39] <TehKewl1_> so I installed the drivers
[08:39] <Kevin_Jim> help plz
[08:40] <MuJ> TehKewl1_: what drivers did you use?
[08:40] <TehKewl1_> nvidia glx
[08:40] <MuJ> from apt?
[08:40] <TehKewl1_> I in the terminal now
[08:40] <TehKewl1_> yup
[08:41] <TehKewl1_> command line sorry
[08:41] <MuJ> what does egrep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log give you?
[08:42] <TehKewl1_> Il check
[08:42] <ironfroggy> is there any reason that accessing a samba share with the smb kioslave that it should ask me for my password five times and still not list the contents?
[08:44] <TehKewl1_> it tells me I still using the CIRRUS
[08:44] <TehKewl1_> (on board)
[08:44] <TehKewl1_> I remember modifying something to fix the same problem in ubuntu
[08:44] <TehKewl1_> but I forget what it was
[08:45] <MuJ> driver -> nvidia ?
[08:45] <Kevin_Jim> a little help with libc6 ?!?
[08:46] <will> hey guys brand new to linux and looking for a little help getting started
[08:46] <Kevin_Jim> ...
[08:46] <will> i've had some compatability issues with konqueror (using kubuntu btw)
[08:47] <TehKewl1_> where is the equivalent of X11R6 config?
[08:47] <will> so the first thing I was going to do was install firefox
[08:47] <MuJ> TehKewl1_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:47] <TehKewl1_> thats the one
[08:47] <will> I downloaded the tar file but don;t know how to install
[08:47] <MuJ> will: first thing you do is how to learn apt-get, aptitude or adept
[08:48] <Kevin_Jim> will: tar zxvf "nameofthefile".tar.gz
[08:48] <ironfroggy> Why might i get "Su returned with an error" when i try to start adept?
[08:48] <MuJ> learn how to* :D
[08:48] <Kevin_Jim> someone help me if you will ?
[08:49] <will> ok.  I've got adept and ark
[08:49] <TehKewl1_> ok then try just clicking on it, then clicking on the firefox file
[08:49] <MuJ> Kevin_Jim: apt-get install libc6 ? :)
[08:49] <Kevin_Jim> it's just don't work
[08:49] <MuJ> oh.. you on 64bit system then?
[08:49] <Kevin_Jim> neither: sudo apt-get -f libc6
[08:50] <MuJ> what does it say then?
[08:50] <will> what is the file extension of firefox.
[08:50] <will> there are no .exe
[08:50] <Kevin_Jim> and when i try via the synaptic, i get a messege that there's an error and it can not fix the packeges
[08:51] <MuJ> will: as I said, learn to use adept, it's the way you should be installing your programs on kubuntu
[08:51] <will> k
[08:51] <TehKewl1_> there isnt one, is there one with a black box in the middle called firefox\
[08:51] <MuJ> Kevin_Jim: you tried debian package right?
[08:52] <will> no black box
[08:52] <Kevin_Jim> yes
[08:52] <MuJ> try to uninstall with dpkg
[08:52] <Kevin_Jim> Muj: ok
[08:53] <will> if I use adept, do I still use the tar file?
[08:53] <TehKewl1_> no\
[08:54] <TehKewl1_> btw, back to my problem, do I need to enter an identifier
[08:54] <TehKewl1_> or just driver nvidia
[08:54] <Kevin_Jim> Muj: i'm steal getting error
[08:54] <Kevin_Jim> even and throught consloe
[08:55] <michel> why is firefor crashing all the time?
[08:55] <MuJ> what's the broken package then? :)
[08:55] <Kevin_Jim> is the libc6 !!
[08:55] <Kevin_Jim> synaptic spot them but can fix them
[08:55] <Kevin_Jim> can't
[08:56] <MuJ> ok.. try forcing it somehow with dpkg.. I'm pretty sure you can fix it with that
[08:56] <Kevin_Jim> ...
[08:56] <MuJ> sry that I don't remember how to do it accurately
[08:57] <will> when I search for firefox on adept, the status reads as installed
[08:57] <MuJ> TehKewl1_: the identifier doesn't matter.. you can put anything you wan't there
[08:58] <MuJ> will: then you just pick it from k-menu -> internet -> firefox  or if you don't have icon there press alt+f2 and type in firefox
[08:59] <TehKewl1_> what is the driver name
[08:59] <MuJ> TehKewl1_: oh and comment out Load "dri" from Modules section
[08:59] <MuJ> nvidia
[09:00] <MuJ> that should be it.. hope it works :)
[09:01] <TehKewl1_> I still get No Screens found
[09:01] <will> MuJ: its not in there
[09:02] <will> MuJ: and I couldnt run the app with alt f2
[09:02] <michel> Does anyone else have firefox freezing all the time?
[09:02] <TehKewl1_> hit alt+f2 and type in firefox
[09:02] <will> TehKewl1_: did that
[09:02] <TehKewl1_> hmm
[09:03] <will> "could not run the specified command"
[09:03] <kosh> I have not had firefox freeze much however I also don't do much with it
[09:03] <MuJ> obviously it's NOT installed then
[09:03] <kosh> when using it to test development websites I have never run into problems
[09:03] <kosh> even when those sites are at a remote location
[09:03] <TehKewl1_> well why would I keep getting No Screens found
[09:03] <MuJ> will: in console type this: sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:03] <MuJ> then learn to use apt-get and adept properly :)
[09:03] <will> MuJ: yah I figured that.  dont know why it thinks it is
[09:03] <kosh> michel: are you running firefox with multiple tabs and going to sites that use ajax on more then one of them?
[09:04] <will> MuJ: k will try
[09:04] <michel> Nope. simple stuff
[09:04] <kuzmaster> is it possible to do a non-destructive partiton in kubuntu
[09:04] <michel> kosh: Gets stuff pretty rapidly
[09:04] <will> MuJ: do I use sudo with kubuntu or kdesu
[09:04] <kuzmaster> like, resize an ext3 partition
[09:05] <michel> kosh: though I have to paid much attention, but I installed the one from the normal installed and the one from mozilla.com and both freeze.
[09:05] <MuJ> will: you only need kdesu if you're running graphical interfaces.. which apt-get is not
[09:05] <kuzmaster> cos i want to change about 10 gb of my ext3 partion to fat
[09:05] <MuJ> on cli you use sudo
[09:05] <kosh> michel: so when does it freeze? what kind of network connection do you have?
[09:05] <kuzmaster> is that possible, in kubuntu 6.06?
[09:05] <kosh> sorry no idea on that
[09:05] <michel> kosh: I have cable. It freezes randomly after opening some page.
[09:06] <kosh> michel: does it only happen on some pages? are there pages it never happens on?
[09:06] <michel> Hmmmm I would have to play more on random pages
[09:06] <kuzmaster> anyone?
[09:07] <MuJ> TehKewl1_: could you somehow get the output of egrep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log after you've tried to start X with geforce and failed?
[09:07] <michel> kosh: How about that? I did not even open a page
[09:07] <kosh> michel: what happened?
[09:07] <will> MuJ: it read package lists, built dependency tree, but then said package firefox is not available but is referred to by anotehr porgram
[09:07] <kuzmaster> anyone at all?
[09:07] <michel> had opera runing and I poped it in front of firefox and now that I bring firefox to the forefront, it is frozen...
[09:08] <MuJ> will: oh sorry.. it's mozilla-firefox just change that in the end
[09:08] <will> MuJ: "this may mean that the pckg is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only abailable from another source
[09:08] <will> k
[09:08] <TehKewl1_> loading extension MIT_SCREEN_SAVER
[09:08] <TehKewl1_> no devices detected
[09:08] <kosh> can you type free and put the mem and swap lines here?
[09:09] <will> MuJ: got the same response
[09:09] <jeff_> hey guys
[09:09] <jeff_> anybody having video playback problems with compiz?
[09:10] <michel> kosh?
[09:10] <kuzmaster> please, because i really need this to be donw
[09:10] <kuzmaster> done
[09:10] <jeff_> also, does anybody know how to add a podcast to Listen?
[09:10] <kosh> michel: at a command prompt type the word free and hit enter   then past the lines that say Mem: and Swap: in here
[09:10] <kosh> michel: they are both pretty short
[09:11] <MuJ> will: you on dapper? what architecture?
[09:11] <lafrance> jeff_: use amorok for ading podcast do not use 1.4 version though
[09:11] <michel> Mem:       2058576    1504668     553908          0        424    1008220
[09:12] <michel> Swap:      2929676          0    2929676
[09:12] <will> MuJ: not sure.  just downloaded the latest release of kubuntu and installed
[09:12] <jeff_> lafrance: but i dont want to use kde
[09:12] <kuzmaster> i really need somone to just tell me if i can do that or not, im really desprate
[09:12] <michel> kosh: Not a mmory problem
[09:12] <kuzmaster> is it possible to do a non-destructive partiton in kubuntu, like, resize an ext3 partition
[09:12] <kosh> yup not memory related I just wanted to make sure
[09:12] <MuJ> will: ok.. all that I can really think of now is type this first in console sudo apt-get update and then the other apt-get command
[09:13] <kosh> firefox is a PIG the way it caches pages is VERY os unfriendly
[09:13] <unix_infidel> kosh: sure.
[09:13] <kosh> so I wanted to make sure that was not the obvious cause of your issue
[09:13] <unix_infidel> erm kuzmaster
[09:13] <michel> kosh: I have run firefox a lot on suse and never had any trouble.
[09:13] <kuzmaster> unix_infidel, yes
[09:13] <unix_infidel> kuzmaster: sure...
[09:13] <TehKewl1_> it still giving me trouble
[09:13] <unix_infidel> try gparted or qtparted.
[09:13] <jeff_> lafrance: when i click 'add a podcast' in Listen, it asks for a 'uri'. where could i find one of those? im trying to add the ubuntuos podcast and the only url they give ends in .xml
[09:14] <unix_infidel> kuzmaster: however its not recommended that you resize often.
[09:14] <unix_infidel> and make sure you backup everything.
[09:14] <kosh> michel: so the firefox problem is something else but I do know when I have used it to work that it will cause me problems if I push it hard, normally with konqueror I have 6-10 browsers open with 5-10 tabs each with firefox that will kill my system but konqueror will use about 200M of ram doing that
[09:14] <kuzmaster> i only need to do it once, to move files from kubuntu to windows
[09:14] <kuzmaster> unix_infidel, ive looked in both, but i dont know how to do it
[09:14] <lafrance> jeff_: you need to go to there web site and copy the URL
[09:14] <unix_infidel> kuzmaster: look at documentation for it then.
[09:15] <TehKewl1_> I havent set something
[09:15] <kuzmaster> ok
[09:15] <MuJ> TehKewl1_: can you send me your xorg.conf?
[09:15] <TehKewl1_> gonna be hard...
[09:15] <MuJ> use irssi :P
[09:15] <will> MuJ: I did apt-get update.  that happened pretty quick
[09:15] <kuzmaster> unix_infidel, i just downloaded the doc for it, but where are they located?
[09:15] <lafrance> jeff_: example for twit url is http://leoville.tv/podcasts/twit.xml
[09:16] <michel> kosh: It is very frustrating. That and the wireless driver is pushing me away.... back to Suse
[09:16] <MuJ> will: well yeah.. it just updates package lists..
[09:16] <will> MuJ: then the "other" apt get I assume was the install mozilla firefox
[09:16] <MuJ> yes
[09:16] <will> MuJ: that didnt work
[09:16] <TehKewl1_> is there a command line IRC client?
[09:16] <MuJ> did you have - in between? :)
[09:16] <kosh> michel: do you have anything strange running? like using the opengl x stuff etc?
[09:16] <sF|Xemanth> TehKewl1_: irssi
[09:17] <jeff_> lafrance: yeah, thats what i did. i copied 'http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed.xml' into the dialog in listen and nothing happened after i clicked ok
[09:17] <michel> kosh: No. I doubt it's related to that as it happened before I installed the special ATI drivers and still does after
[09:17] <TehKewl1_> can I dcc with it?
[09:17] <MuJ> TehKewl1_: yes
[09:18] <TehKewl1_> ok
[09:18] <TehKewl1_> hold on
[09:19] <kosh> michel: ah the xgl stuff is what I mean, you are not running that right? that is some experiemental thing that you would have had to play with yourself and does not come as part of kubuntu
[09:19] <michel> nope
[09:19] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me where the documention is located for qtparted?
[09:20] <kuzmaster> ive downloaded it, but i cant find it
[09:20] <jaffa_> Thor you here?
[09:20] <TehKewl1_> how do I connect to the server with it?
[09:21] <kosh> michel: out of curiosity are the pages you are viewing flash stuff, multimedia etc?
[09:21] <MuJ>  /connect server.address.here :)
[09:22] <will> well as much as I hate to, I;m about ready to go back to wincrap
[09:22] <michel> Kosh no. As I told you it froze on the ubuntu intro page! I could not believe it
[09:22] <lafrance> jeff_: what program did you use ?
[09:22] <kosh> michel: ah I did not see you say that
[09:23] <ironfroggy> kosh: so you are a kubuntu user?
[09:23] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me where that documentation is for qtparted
[09:23] <kuzmaster> i cant find it anywhere
[09:23] <michel> kosh :(
[09:23] <kosh> ironfroggy: I use kubuntu and debian sid and my kubuntu is not a pure kubuntu
[09:23] <jeff_> lafrance: i tried it in Listen (gnome music app, said to be amarok equivalent) and in rhythmbox
[09:23] <jeff_> lafrance: nothing happened in listen and rhythmbox crashed
[09:24] <ironfroggy> kosh: ive only just installed it dual boot on my laptop and am _trying_ to get it installed on an old box for my webserver.
[09:24] <kuzmaster> please??????
[09:24] <simeon> ok its me TehKewl1
[09:24] <jeff_> lafrance: should i have some package installed or something?
[09:24] <kuzmaster> fine then
[09:24] <simeon> how do I dcc it
[09:24] <lafrance> jeff_: after you enter the link did you make sure to download or update podcast ? I do not use gnome  sorry
[09:24] <kuzmaster> !qtparted
[09:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about qtparted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:25] <kuzmaster> !partition
[09:25] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[09:25] <ironfroggy> is it possible to write the install CD to a small hdd and install from there? my box has a buggy cd drive.
[09:25] <kuzmaster> !qtparted
[09:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about qtparted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:25] <kosh> michel: you you have top running at the same time so that it is visible while you are using firefox, just to see if you get some massive cpu etc spike when firefox is frozen
[09:25] <jeff_> lafrance: yeah, it said it was 100% done updating 0/0 podcasts
[09:25] <simeon> com
[09:25] <simeon> cmon
[09:25] <kosh> michel: also just in case in a terminal type dmesg and see if any of the last 10 lines or so seems bad, usually bad stuff shoudl be pretty obvious
[09:26] <lafrance> jeff_:  please check were the file are save mp3 and see if it there ? to make sure
[09:26] <kuzmaster> ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:26] <kosh> kuzmaster: I have no idea, however repartition is ALWAYS dangerous you need to have backups of anything you don't want destroyed
[09:27] <MuJ> simeon: /dcc send nick file
[09:27] <lafrance> kuzmaster: do you aim ?
[09:27] <jeff_> lafrance: ok just a sec
[09:27] <jeff_> lafrance: oh damnit im in the wrong channel
[09:27] <michel> kosh: nothing in dmesg that is new
[09:27] <kuzmaster> lafrance, no, only msn and google talk
[09:27] <jeff_> lafrance: lol i just realized im in kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[09:28] <jeff_> kuzmaster: how do you google talk on ubuntu?
[09:28] <kosh> michel: okay how about the top thing? you just open a konsole window and type top
[09:28] <jeff_> kuzmaster: or kubuntu
[09:28] <kuzmaster> ummmm, i4get
[09:28] <kuzmaster> you use gaim
[09:28] <kuzmaster> thats what i use
[09:28] <lafrance> kuzmaster: ad this name badiane is a guru on debian and know it
[09:29] <michel> kush: I would have to restart firefox and get it to freeze again. Hold on
[09:29] <kuzmaster> so ad "badiane is a guru on debian and know it"?
[09:29] <MuJ> TehKewl1: damn.. stupid firewalls... try adding -passive ;)
[09:30] <TehKewl1> ok
[09:31] <TehKewl1> I'm trying
[09:32] <TehKewl1> umm MuJ
[09:32] <MuJ> can't connect.. :(
[09:33] <MuJ> *sigh*
[09:33] <TehKewl1> are you logged in, MuJ
[09:34] <kosh> michel: yeah debugging sucks but I searched the ubuntu forums and could not find any problems similar to yours
[09:34] <TehKewl1> >:o
[09:35] <michel> kosh: It's weird. After the last crash, I restarted firefox and it opened on a different page and the menu did not have the huge fonts it had before and so far it has not crashed
[09:35] <TehKewl1> I am really angry now!!
[09:36] <TehKewl1> there is an option DPMS under monitor, is that ok?
[09:37] <MuJ> TehKewl1: yeah
[09:37] <TehKewl1> hmm...
[09:38] <kraut> moin
[09:38] <TehKewl1> what about the bus ID?
[09:38] <Lynoure> off-topic: What language is that moin stuff anyway?
[09:39] <MuJ> Lynoure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin
[09:39] <MuJ> TehKewl1: mine is "PCI:1:0:0"
[09:40] <Lynoure> MuJ: Wow, lost of Frisians here...
[09:40] <Lynoure> s/lost/lots
[09:40] <MuJ> nah.. it has just spread :P
[09:42] <Lynoure> MuJ: Oh, like ciao! of the 80s, gosh I feel old.
[09:43] <MuJ> "Moin can be used 24 hours a day." I think it fits pretty well on internet when there's usually people on from all around the world.
[09:44] <simeon> ITS WORKING!! YAY
[09:44] <MuJ> .. :)
[09:44] <MuJ> what was the problem?
[09:45] <simeon> BUS ID PCI0:02:0 meant to be 1:0:0
[09:45] <simeon> or whatever
[09:46] <arso> hi guys
[09:47] <MuJ> simeon: ah... so you had both graphics cards enabled at the same time
[09:47] <arso> i wanna set up a network with a win XP , home edition laptop and my kubuntu desktop, is it possible?
[09:47] <simeon> no
[09:47] <simeon> I had to pull the GeForce out
[09:48] <simeon> not very hard cos I dont have a cover over my case
[09:49] <simeon> then I wa
[09:49] <simeon> nted it back in
[09:52] <cox377> arso: yeh, what u wanna do?
[09:52] <arso> cox377:  hey there, make a file sharing network with my laptop (win xp home) and my desktop (kubuntu)
[09:52] <arso> they are both connected to a router for internet
[09:52] <arso> via ethernet
[09:52] <word> the ubuntu stickers that came with the cds are well..crap..lol...you can rub em off..
[09:53] <lafrance> word: The price you paid for it do you realy care ?
[09:53] <word> no :P and i have 15 more so I don't care even more ;p
[09:54] <lafrance> heheh
[09:55] <arso> cox377:  u know?
[09:55] <lafrance> arso samba will connect both even mac box
[09:57] <arso> lafrance:  i need to instal that?
[09:57] <lafrance> well I think so samba is the server that read other box
[09:57] <arso> and will it be as simple on the laptop, windows home networking SUX
[09:58] <arso> how do i get it
[09:58] <MuJ> http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-share-files-using-samba.html  I just did this and am happily sharing my files between my linux box, my laptop and xbox ;)
[09:58] <lafrance> windows no idea after win Me never bought another window OS mac and linux
[09:59] <arso> MuJ:  i see, thanx ;)
[09:59] <MuJ> you don't need to do anything on windows.. other than be in same workgroup and browse "network places" (or whatever that icon is called in english windows)
[09:59] <fiyawerx> i need to come up with a good name for my desktop
[10:00] <fiyawerx> or desktop/laptop combo names hehe
[10:00] <arso> lol
[10:00] <lafrance> Foss/sucker
[10:00] <arso> fiery wax
[10:00] <fiyawerx> lol
[10:00] <arso> lol
[10:00] <MuJ> fiyawerx: http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/name-themes.html :)
[10:00] <fiyawerx> MuJ: nice :)
[10:00] <arso> lol
[10:01] <arso> ohh, where do i name my kubuntu?
[10:01] <MuJ>  /etc/hostname
[10:01] <fiyawerx> disinformation/illumination maybe :)
[10:02] <arso> lol
[10:02] <fiyawerx> Fnord!
[10:02] <apokruphos> I've always been a fan of mythologies, myself
[10:02] <MuJ> I have orcus/juiblex/geryon for major demons in nethack :P
[10:02] <fiyawerx> hehe
[10:02] <bartekmp> jo
[10:02] <bartekmp> www.fullopcja.cba.pl
[10:02] <arso> "arteriosclerosis" lol
[10:03] <fiyawerx> oh haha "cheeses"
[10:03] <MuJ> arso: rhymes with arso :P
[10:03] <bartekmp> yeah
[10:03] <bartekmp> yeah
[10:03] <fiyawerx> my gf would piss her pants laughing, im a big cheese lover
[10:03] <bartekmp> kurwa
[10:03] <bartekmp> ma
[10:03] <fiyawerx> shes always making fun of me because of anything with cheese in it
[10:03] <bartekmp> pojebacy
[10:03] <fiyawerx> maybe like 'macn' and 'bleu'
[10:03] <arso> haha
[10:03] <anoid`> omg lol cheese
[10:04] <bartekmp> skurwiele
[10:04] <arso> i know i know
[10:04] <arso> "ROFLCOPTER"
[10:04] <bartekmp> pizdafony
[10:04] <fiyawerx> hah, desktop = Bleu!
[10:04] <bartekmp> chuje
[10:04] <arso> or Lols-Royce
[10:04] <bartekmp> dziwki
[10:04] <fiyawerx> afk47
[10:04] <bartekmp> mother-fuckers
[10:05] <bartekmp> bitches
[10:05] <bartekmp> cocks
[10:05] <anoid`> bartekmp - alanis morisette pwns your life
[10:05] <bartekmp> jojo
[10:05] <arso> lol
[10:05] <lafrance> bartekmp: no need for that kind of language is there ? Or did you drop out of school in grade 5
[10:05] <arso> jojo is 16 DAMN
[10:05] <bartekmp> jojo
[10:06] <arso> or did u join it when u were 20
[10:06] <bartekmp> I have in school 6 for english
[10:06] <bartekmp> kutasy
[10:06] <bartekmp> jebane
[10:06] <bartekmp> kutasy
[10:06] <bartekmp> kutasy
[10:06] <bartekmp> jebane
[10:06] <bartekmp> jebane
[10:06] <bartekmp> anoid` ty zdziro
[10:07] <bartekmp> anoid` ty zdziro
[10:07] <bartekmp> anoid` ty zdziro
[10:07] <bartekmp> anoid` ty zdziro
[10:07] <arso> bartekmp:  dont spam
[10:07] <bartekmp> anoid` ty zdziro
[10:07] <bartekmp> anoid` ty zdziro
[10:07] <bartekmp> anoid` ty zdziro
[10:07] <bartekmp> anoid` ty zdziro
[10:07] <bartekmp> jojo
[10:07] <MuJ> *yawn*
[10:07] <arso> ....
[10:07] <bartekmp> don't
[10:07] <arso> no admins
[10:07] <MuJ> soma yourself out alraedy.. would you please? :)
[10:07] <arso> anyone here uses blender?
[10:07] <MuJ> spam even
[10:07] <bartekmp> jo
[10:07] <bartekmp> dziwkarz
[10:08] <bartekmp> pizdafony
[10:08] <anoid`> someone call his social worker
[10:08] <bartekmp> jo spierdalaj
[10:08] <MuJ> bartekmp: yes we know you are wierd
[10:09] <bartekmp> yes??
[10:09] <bartekmp> WOW!!!!!
[10:09] <bartekmp> I likemasturbating
[10:09] <arso> no shit
[10:09] <MuJ> I bet you do
[10:09] <arso> we guessed ur typing with one hand
[10:09] <bartekmp> yes
[10:10] <bartekmp> orgasm
[10:10] <bartekmp> ahh
[10:10] <arso> with a donkey
[10:10] <arso> lol
[10:10] <bartekmp> id si lecz skurwysynu
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:11] <bartekmp> id si lecz skurwysynu
[10:11] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:12] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:12] <bartekmp> orgasm
[10:12] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:12] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:12] <arso> someone kick him goddamnit
[10:12] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:12] <bartekmp> fuck you
[10:12] <anoid`> rotf
[10:12] <arso> finally
[10:12] <MuJ> no need to :)
[10:12] <arso> idiot
[10:12] <arso> lol
[10:12] <arso>  "/kick bartekmp OWNED"
[10:13] <arso> omg
[10:13] <MuJ> peer... the greatest hacker alive :)
[10:13] <anoid`> no doubt
[10:16] <lafrance> lol
[10:16] <lafrance> cant we not invite chanserv to the chanel to monitor ding dong like that ?
[10:17] <arso> lol
[10:17] <arso> hey guys is there any video capture software for linux
[10:18] <lafrance> yes a few
[10:19] <arso> wats the 'best'
[10:19] <arso> or most common
[10:19] <MuJ> arso: what kind of video do you mean?
[10:19] <MuJ> like taking video of what you do with your desktop or trying to capture some video running in mediaplayer ooorrr... what? :9
[10:20] <arso> MuJ:  like screenshots, video shots, of the current screen and wats going on
[10:20] <MuJ> wink is first that comes to mind
[10:21] <arso> "like taking video of what you do with your desktop"
[10:21] <arso> is it lightweight
[10:21] <MuJ> wouldn't know that.. never used any of those :P
[10:22] <arso> oh ok
[10:22] <arso> thnx tho
[10:38] <freeflying|away> Hobbsee: has ever set up printer via samba in kubuntu?
[10:38] <Hobbsee> freeflying|away: ah, yep.
[10:39] <freeflying|away> Hobbsee: how to do it?
[10:39] <beatrix> I have some problems with my printer, model HP 4250 Laser jet
[10:39] <Hobbsee> freeflying|away: with the wizard?
[10:39] <freeflying|away> Hobbsee: I have tried times, still can't work
[10:39] <Hobbsee> freeflying|away: what problem were you having?
[10:39] <freeflying|away> Hobbsee: use kprinter and cups
[10:40] <Hobbsee> freeflying|away: where exactly does it stop working?
[10:40] <beatrix> I search in google but i don't find anything
[10:40] <freeflying|away> Hobbsee: every time, it give:/usr/lib/cups/backend/smb failed
[10:41] <beatrix> can you help me?
[10:41] <Hobbsee> freeflying|away: ah.  is cups started?
[10:41] <freeflying|away> Hobbsee: y
[10:41] <Hobbsee> hmmm.  no idea
[10:42] <Woosta> I'm trying to instal ATI proprietory drivers .. it's telling me it can't find libfglrx_pp.so.1.0 .. however that file is sitting quite happily in /usr/lib/fglrx .. do I need to tell the system there's libs in there?
[10:44] <lafrance> night all
[10:46] <TehKewl1> why doesnt Kubuntu come with gcc
[10:48] <Hobbsee> !build-essentials
[10:48] <MuJ> because development tools aren't essential for desktop usage?
[10:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about build-essentials - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:48] <Hobbsee> !build-essential
[10:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:48] <Hobbsee> !build-essential is <alias> build-essentials
[10:48] <ubotu> build-essential is already known...
[10:48] <Hobbsee> !build-essentials is <alias> build-essential
[10:48] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[10:50] <Woosta> (sorted)
[10:56] <Shinjan> hi
[10:58] <lars> Shinjan: Hi :)
[11:00] <cpk1> !mplayer
[11:00] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Try " sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts " ( multiverse must be enabled see !repos ).
[11:00] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[11:03] <cpk1> hmm the wiki says you can apt-get mplayer buti get package isnt available but is referred to by another package
[11:03] <grizzly> A lil silly question. I can't find the package for emacs (terminal mode)
[11:03] <cpk1> any tips?
[11:03] <imbrandon_> !find emacs
[11:03] <ubotu> Found: emacs-goodies-el, emacs21, emacs21-bin-common, emacs21-common, emacs21-el (and 45 others)
[11:03] <imbrandon_> ** package names
[11:03] <cpk1> !find mplayer
[11:03] <ubotu> Found: kmplayer-base, kmplayer-doc, kmplayer-konq-plugins, kmplayer, mozilla-mplayer (and 15 others)
[11:03] <grizzly> try aptitude mplayer<tab>
[11:04] <imbrandon_> cpk1, you need universe enabled
[11:04] <grizzly> imbrandon: So emacs21 it is ?
[11:04] <imbrandon_> grizzly, looks like it
[11:04] <imbrandon_> dunno i dont use emacs
[11:04] <cpk1> imbrandon: I have everything that sources.list came with enabled
[11:05] <cpk1> grizzly: use vi?
[11:05] <imbrandon_> cpk1, if you cant find mplayer then universe is not enabled
[11:06] <cpk1> !repository
[11:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:07] <imbrandon_> cpk1, you can look at my sources.list http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/sources.list  BRB afk
[11:10] <arso_> !compiling
[11:10] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:10] <arso_> ok then goodbye ppl, off to windows (dual boot) to play some games, bye
[11:11] <cpk1> imbrandon: I looked at my list more closely, i read over it too fast the first time, the ones I saw with universe and multiverse were backports heh
[11:13] <n3storm> anybody here having weird problems with the jabber server?
[11:22] <berkes> n3storm: what jabber server? In contrary to MSN/yahoo etc, there is not /A/ server, there are thousands of em.
[11:23] <n3storm> berkes: the plain jabber server for the jabber protocol
[11:23] <berkes> n3storm: you mean the ubuntu package for the server?
[11:23] <n3storm> I read lots of tutorials, manuals, forum threads, mail lists
[11:23] <n3storm> berkes: yes
[11:23] <Thrain> Hello
[11:24] <berkes> aah, I thought you meant something like jabber.org :)
[11:24] <n3storm> And mine doesn't work
[11:24] <n3storm> I't doesn't allow users to autoregister
[11:24] <Thrain> I already installed Kubuntu and I really like it... but I've a problem
[11:24] <Thrain> wireless connections with wpa authentication
[11:25] <Thrain> I'd like to know if there is some tool to connect to them
[11:25] <Thrain> I see that there is a really nice wlassistant to connect to WEP shares
[11:25] <berkes> n3storm: the debian tut helped me a lot http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/42
[11:25] <Thrain> something for wpa?
[11:26] <n3storm> I think I read that one, but I'll check it again, thanks berkes
[11:26] <berkes> Thrain: ther eis no really nice one (IMO) but there is a tool: kwifimanager it lices ni kcontrol.
[11:26] <ricardo> does anybody knows how to automount a FAT32 partition of my HD?
[11:27] <ricardo> or where does kubuntu places it?
[11:27] <berkes> ricardo: did you try system:/media or media:/
[11:27] <n3storm> ricardo: check under system settings too
[11:27] <Thrain> berkes: thanks
[11:29] <n3storm> berkes: nop, it doesn't work
[11:29] <elpayo> Hello there
[11:29] <berkes> n3storm: what do your logs tell you?
[11:29] <ricardo> it is no under media
[11:30] <n3storm> 20060716T18:57:33: [warn]  (casandra.homelinux.net): xdb_file failed to open file /var/lib/jabber/casandra.homelinux.net/n3storm3.xml: No such file or directory
[11:30] <berkes> well... ;) mkdir /var/lib/jabber/casandra.homelinux.net/ && touch var/lib/jabber/casandra.homelinux.net/n3storm3.xml
[11:30] <berkes> then make sure their permissions and owers are correct.
[11:32] <ricardo> I can see all the partitions but my FAT32 (and also the VISTA XP) are not enabled...
[11:32] <ricardo> I try to "modify" but it doesnt do a thing
[11:34] <n3storm> ricardo: do you know all the stuff about being administrator with sudo and so?
[11:40] <ricardo> most of it I think....
[11:40] <ricardo> i have already managed to mount it manually
[11:41] <ricardo> for the partition to be automatically loaded i'll try modifying the fstab file
[11:44] <ricardo> ok....think i got it....
[11:45] <ricardo> have to reboot to test....seya...
[11:54] <ricardo> it worked!!!
[11:54] <ricardo> im a happy man now...
[12:10] <lars> Hi, anyone else bothered with this? Could not find mime type application/octet-stream
[12:13] <cpk2> !swat
[12:13] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:33] <dynio> jest tu kto?
[12:33] <aegeanlinux_> brb
[12:33] <dynio> o jest!
[12:33] <dynio> a mylaem e to nie dziaa
[12:34] <dynio> have any person a problem with kubuntu and INTEL 915 graphic card?
[12:48] <ganymed> why adept removes nvidia-glx when i try to install nvidia-setting ?
[12:55] <Pupeno> How do I bring up the men that appears by clicking on the icon of a window using key shortcuts ?
[12:57] <Pupeno> s/men/menu/
[12:58] <thor> hello
[12:59] <ganymed> hi
[12:59] <thor> hello
[01:00] <darkadmiral> anyone Gambas2 packages for dapper?
[01:00] <thor> how are things going here in the kubuntu chat
[01:00] <Riddell> darkadmiral: URL?
[01:00] <darkadmiral> i need them :D
[01:02] <thor> i am quite a newbee to kubuntu and coming from a rpm backgroud doesn't help all that much I know some things but not much at all and i have a couple of questions I was hoping i could get some answers for
[01:02] <Pupeno> thor: just ask, we'll do our best.
[01:03] <thor> cool thx
[01:04] <thor> If I install kubuntu 6.1 from the cd and then do a full upgrade via the net what else would I need to do in order to get my
[01:04] <thor> system  source installed and running for the instalation of 3rd party modules such as Nvidia  and vmware and so on
[01:05] <grizzly> rpm must suck really bad :left:
[01:06] <thor> I do not wish to do a hole system rebuild or kernel rebuild but if thats the only and simplest way then so be it
[01:09] <thor> hello
[01:10] <thor> the world is a lonely place
[01:11] <grizzly> thor: sry, but exactly what do you want to do? I am newish as well
[01:12] <dillinger> #kubuntu-fr
[01:13] <dillinger> hello, could someone please help me, i am having trouble trying to make my wifi connection work at bootup time
[01:14] <jdh6403> hello everyone
[01:14] <thor> ok
[01:14] <thor> I have upgrded my freshly installed system
[01:14] <dillinger> hello
[01:14] <jdh6403> i just installed kubuntu
[01:15] <dillinger> i just installed it too, but cant configure my wifi card to work at bootup
[01:15] <jdh6403> how do i get the flash and java plugins installed for firefox
[01:15] <cpk2> thor i hope you didnt need help with just that this while time...
[01:15] <dillinger> run adept jdh6403
[01:15] <jdh6403> ok
[01:15] <cpk2> or apt-get
[01:15] <jdh6403> just type java?
[01:15] <dillinger> yep
[01:15] <dillinger> or j2re
[01:15] <dillinger> you'll find it
[01:16] <cpk2> i think for the sun java you might need to do sun-java5-bin
[01:17] <dillinger> can someone please tell me how to get my wifi connection to work at bootup time ?
[01:18] <jdh6403> well adept says i have java common already installed
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> dillinger, man wireless
[01:19] <cpk2> jdh6403: the sun java?
[01:19] <grizzly> jdh6403: I think there was a howto on the forums for java. Try that.
[01:19] <weihello> !jre
[01:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about jre - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:19] <jdh6403> i dunno...whatever proggy i need to get java to work with firefox
[01:19] <thor> now i would like to install my nvidia drivers and install vmware so I can run windows  (I am a developer and i need to develop on windows one of those unfortunate sercumstances one find one's self in at time but never the less I am trying to find a better way of working and doing what I need to do everyday
[01:19] <weihello> !jvm
[01:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about jvm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:19] <thor> funny'
[01:19] <thor> no awnsers just questions
[01:20] <weihello> !java
[01:20] <cpk2> jdh6403: you probably want sun jave, in a terminal do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[01:20] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:20] <dillinger> |lostbyte|: ok, thx, i'll have a look at it, even tho im not sure it'll help, my wifi connection IS actually working, just can't get it to run at boot time
[01:20] <weihello> ok
[01:20] <weihello> this is a URL
[01:20] <jdh6403> k
[01:20] <dillinger> j2re-mozilla-plugin is what you need jdh6403
[01:22] <jdh6403> hmmmm
[01:22] <Teejay_wp> where can I find information to install the extra packages for kubuntu
[01:22] <Teejay_wp> ?
[01:22] <cpk2> jdh6403: after you get the sun jave you will need to make it the default version: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:22] <cpk2> i keep misspelling java...
[01:24] <cpk2> Teejay_wp:  /etc/apt/sources.list is where the repositories list is if that is what you are asking?
[01:24] <grizzly> thor: aptitude search vmware ?
[01:24] <jdh6403> this is what konsole told me
[01:24] <jdh6403> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:24] <jdh6403> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:24] <grizzly> close adept
[01:25] <jdh6403> ohhh
[01:25] <jdh6403> ok
[01:25] <cpk2> jdh6403: close adept if you are trying to use aptget
[01:25] <jdh6403> ok  duh
[01:25] <jdh6403> ty
[01:25] <jdh6403> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin   now it said this
[01:26] <cpk2> jdh6403: you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[01:26] <jdh6403> i dunno
[01:26] <jdh6403> where do i check that
[01:26] <ahihi> hi, what's the app for checking whether some program is blocking /dev/dsp?
[01:26] <jdh6403> im brand new here
[01:27] <thor> use adapt to find the packeges you wish to install  like java or anyhting thats available from your sources list
[01:27] <thor> you can also enable the univeses and multiverse sources by going to manage repositorys on adapt and right clicking on them
[01:27] <jdh6403> ok
[01:27] <thor> Teejay_wp in adapt
[01:27] <thor> or even synapteck all depends what you using
[01:27] <thor> kubuntu comes with adapt so ... one would asume your using it
[01:27] <grizzly> jdh6403: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:27] <cpk2> jdh6403:  /etc/apt/sources.list that is where the repositories list is, you can probably uncomment all the repositories
[01:27] <thor> please explain what is aptitude search
[01:28] <grizzly> thor: just type in terminal
[01:28] <jdh6403> brb
[01:29] <cpk2> thor: aptitude --help =P
[01:29] <cpk2> just lloks for packages by keyword
[01:31] <thor> what o I type then
[01:32] <cpk2> to do a search with aptitude? just aptitude search keyword
[01:32] <dillinger> |lostbyte|:  allright, i did the modifications they say in the man file. i will reboot to see if it works
[01:32] <cpk2> ie: aptitude search nvidia
[01:32] <dillinger> thx
[01:38] <isede> anybody knows a way to use USB TV (ATI) with Kubuntu?
[01:38] <dillinger> |lostbyte|: YOU'RE THE MAN
[01:38] <dillinger> ;)
[01:39] <thor> ok
[01:49] <cplusplus> hi
[01:49] <cplusplus> how can i mount my external usb harddisk?
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> !mount
[01:52] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> cplusplus: I do - sudo mkdir -p /media/usbdisk - and then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk (presuming its sda1) when I need to use it
[01:54] <cplusplus> but i cant write on a ntfs?
[01:57] <thor> mount  /dev/sda  /mnt/myUSB
[01:57] <thor> you might need sda1 or sda2 depending on the number of patitions
[02:06] <thor> yes this is true ntfs is protected becouse well it's complicated
[02:06] <thor> M$ has a habbit of making stuff uncompatable
[02:06] <thor> rather use a ext3,raizer or fat32
[02:14] <dillinger> hi there
[02:14] <aegeanlinux> dillinger: G'day mate!
[02:14] <dillinger> can someone tell me whats the best replacement software on linux for emule ?
[02:19] <ThunderStruck> dillinger: is emule p2p?
[02:20] <ThunderStruck> amule - client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule
[02:20] <ThunderStruck> dillinger: try amule
[02:20] <ThunderStruck> dillinger: also there is xmule
[02:22] <admin__> my ACCRPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 but I want xorg-x11 7.0 (for nvidia)... how do I force a stable set of packages on a testing system ?
[02:24] <dillinger> ok thx ThunderStruck
 wrong channel :)
[02:24] <dillinger> i'll try amule
[02:25] <ThunderStruck> yw
[02:26] <Woosta> Anyone tell me where kubuntu sets $PATH globally?
[02:27] <h3sp4wn> Woosta: /etc/environment
[02:27] <Woosta> ta
[02:31] <dillinger> i just love kubuntu
[02:33] <Woosta> Heh
[02:33] <thor> how can  I run krusader as root in kubuntu it keeps bombing out i can't even login as root ... help please
[02:34] <aegeanlinux> click K --> Run Command
[02:34] <aegeanlinux> Then press options
[02:34] <aegeanlinux> tick "Run as different user"
[02:34] <aegeanlinux> that __should__ do it.
[02:36] <Blizzz> hm, there is (was?) a problem under dappper that /root/.kde/cache-<hostname> is not a symbolic link to /var/tmp/kdechace-root but an usual directory.
[02:36] <Blizzz> sudo -s
[02:36] <Blizzz> cd /root/.kde
[02:36] <Blizzz> rmdir cache-<hostname>
[02:36] <Blizzz> ln -s /var/tmp/kdecache-root cache-<hostname>
[02:38] <Teejay_wp> hi
[02:38] <Teejay_wp> I am figuring out how to install mp3 support for kubuntu
[02:39] <ThunderStruck> !mp3
[02:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:40] <Woosta> Where should I get a mysql4.1 package?
[02:44] <aegeanlinux> !mysql
[02:44] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:45] <Sakireth> what's kubuntu like?
[02:45] <Sakireth> i like KDE and Ubuntu, but...
[02:45] <Sakireth> i already installed XFCE
[02:46] <Woosta> Anyone with a more useful answer than aegeanlinux? I want the mysql4.1 packages, not 5 .. it's deliberate
[02:47] <LjL> !info mysql-server-4.1
[02:47] <ubotu> mysql-server-4.1: mysql database server binaries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4.1.15-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 16633 kB, installed size 37224 kB
[02:47] <LjL> Woosta: ^
[02:47] <Woosta> Thanks :)
[02:48] <Gioacchino> hello
[02:48] <Gioacchino> !it
[02:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:48] <markc> Woosta> apt-cache search mysql-server-4.1
[02:48] <MilesTEG> bonjour
[02:49] <LjL> hi
[02:49] <lutfu> hi
[02:50] <Gioacchino> I have a problem with k3b( cd burning )
[02:50] <Gioacchino> it dont see my scsi cd burner...
[02:51] <Gioacchino> but if I insert a cd  I can  read it..
[02:51] <Woosta> markc: fyi: that just tells me that 5.0 is available :)
[02:53] <bob_> hello, could anyone help me with setting up my mic on SB Live?
[02:53] <markc> Woosta> mine shows the 4.1 server and client, have you got universe and multiverse repos in your sources.ist ?
[02:53] <Sakireth> hey, i like KDE and Ubuntu, should i install kubuntu? and if so, how to remove gnome and xfrce?
[02:53] <Sakireth> xfce*
[02:54] <Hobbsee> Sakireth: you dont have to remove htem
[02:55] <Woosta> yeah, once I added universe it was in aptitude :)
[02:56] <aztun> hi
[02:57] <aztun> aaaaaaaaaggggggggg I got xgl working on kubuntu but now altGr key failssssss
[03:01] <markc> Gioacchino> make sure you the "cdrom" group added to your user ID, and maybe check that the /dev/<cd burner> device is group owned by cdrom
[03:02] <bob_> i have a problem setting up my mic, anyone can help me on this?
[03:02] <grizzly> what is the equivalent of windows like hibernate in linux?
[03:03] <markc> bob_> I have an sblive and had a mic plugged in a half year ago, I might be able to help, where are you up to ?
[03:03] <MuJ> you sure your mic is in right hole? :)
[03:03] <MuJ> and gain is not at 0
[03:03] <ThaZZa> Hey All.
[03:04] <bob_> markc: i just installed kubuntu 6.06, mic is not working, input tab is missing from kmixer, and i don't have a "mic" entry in alsamixer
[03:04] <Gioacchino> markc: how to make it ?
[03:04] <bob_> markc: whatever capture device i select it says L R CAPTURE in red
[03:04] <markc> bob_> do you have an audigy or old sblive ?
[03:05] <ThaZZa> Hey All.. Can anyone help me with a permissions issue while mounting a drive?
[03:05] <bob_> markc: SB Audigy LS
[03:05] <bob_> markc: that's what lspci says
[03:05] <max__> Thazza be more specific
[03:05] <markc> Gioacchino> look for /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrom "ls -l /dev/dvd"... it should already be there as link to (probably) /dev/sda or similar
[03:06] <ThaZZa> max__: Ok.. I am trying to mount a drive using the following command "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /folder
[03:06] <markc> bob_> lsmod | grep ca0106 give you snd_ca0106 ?
[03:07] <ThaZZa> max__: sorry "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /folder -o users
[03:07] <bob_> markc: yep
[03:07] <ThaZZa>  max__: and only root has access to the share.
[03:07] <bob_> markc: snd_ca0106             34212  2
[03:08] <jaffa_> does anyone know where i can get the Nvidia linux kernel modules because wen after i install my drivers and restart X it says the the modules are incompatible
[03:08] <markc>  bob_> I've got the same in this box... I'll see if I can find an old mic.. you mean your kmix does not show a mic/line menu on the Switches pane ?
[03:08] <h3sp4wn> jaffa_: make sure you have main restricted multiverse universe (after dapper-security in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[03:08] <ThaZZa> I think max just left.. can anyone else help me?
[03:09] <ThaZZa> I have been hunting google for hours... To no help.
[03:09] <jaffa_> ok ill check it out thx
[03:09] <bob_> markc: no, i have that menu in the switches tab. i don't have the input tab to tweak mic input. and i can't find it in alsamixer as well
[03:10] <markc> jaffa_> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:10] <jaffa_> i have those
[03:10] <markc> bob_>  have you twiddled all the output knobs ?
[03:11] <markc> bob_> I read somewhere that we might need alsa 1.0.11 to get the ca0106 module to work right
[03:11] <bob_> markc: yep, raised them, lowered etc. i have CAPTURE output knob, is that for mic?
[03:11] <ThaZZa> Hello?
[03:11] <markc> bob_> alsa 1.0.11 comes with kernel 2.6.17 :-(
[03:12] <thyko> what happens to older kubuntu repositories when a new version comes out?
[03:12] <bob_> i have alsa 1.0.10-4ubuntu4 and kernel 2.6.15-23-386 :(
[03:13] <bob_> markc: i have alsa 1.0.10-4ubuntu4 and kernel 2.6.15-23-386 :(
[03:14] <ThaZZa> Hmmm... Not very helpful bunch are you.
[03:14] <MuJ> ThaZZa: what kind of partition is it?
[03:15] <ThaZZa> MuJ: Ext3 i think.
[03:15] <markc> bob_> I found an old crappy creative mic and plugged into the blue socket on one end, changed the men dropdown from line to mic and I can hear it working
[03:15] <ThaZZa> MuJ: It is detecting it auto, without me specifying.
[03:16] <bob_> markc: what is the selected capture device in the mixer?
[03:16] <jfrcortez> #c++
[03:16] <markc>  bob_> all I have set is analog front 2/3s up (using headphoens) and CAPTIVE feedback abouy 90%
[03:17] <bob_> markc: i have: ac97in, spdif in, spdif out, src out, i2s in/out
[03:17] <ThaZZa> MuJ: Do you have ideas?
[03:17] <jaffa_> Nope it didnt do anything
[03:17] <MuJ> ThaZZa: have you tried putting it in fstab? or do you want it to be always mounted?
[03:17] <markc> bob_> I don't have any switches turned on... I'm monitoring out the socket next to the blue one
[03:18] <ThaZZa> MuJ: Would prefer if it is not always mounted, due to it a second drive, that is only there for a couple of days
[03:19] <markc> bob_> make sure spdif out is off
[03:20] <bob_> markc: it's muted
[03:20] <MuJ> ThaZZa: well have you tried without the -o switch? Mine works just fine when just typing mount /dev /dir
[03:20] <markc> bob_> right... so you have the mic in the blue socket, headphoens or speakers int he socket next to it, and only analog front and captive feedback up ?
[03:21] <jaffa_> i have all the restricted modules and evrything it says it needs do i have to make a symbolic link for it or something
[03:21] <markc>  bob_> that's all I have set... if you have an onboard sound device then make sure kmix or alsamixer is using the ca0106 device
[03:22] <bob_> markc: alsamixer says Card: CA0106
[03:22] <ThaZZa> MuJ: Permission denied.. I think because it is a liunx fs already, and has permissions (old) set, that are not part of my users.
[03:22] <bob_> markc: and when i twek output volume i can hear it
[03:22] <markc> bob_> are you hearing any sound anyway, like playing an ogg/mp3 ?
[03:22] <ThaZZa> MuJ: This is why the -o users command, from what i have been told.. Allows everyone to read the mount
[03:23] <bob_> mark
[03:23] <bob_> markc: yes playback works perfectly
[03:23] <MuJ> ThaZZa: try chowning it to you?
[03:23] <markc> bob_> ah, so it's working... mine sounds terrible, no control like with an sblive (emu10k1) so I suspect the next alsa drivers will fix this
[03:23] <ThaZZa> MuJ: How?
[03:24] <ThaZZa> MuJ: Or you mean mount and then run chown -R myusername
[03:24] <MuJ> ThaZZa: yup.. that should get it working at least
[03:24] <thyko> what happens to older kubuntu repositories when a new version comes out?
[03:24] <ThaZZa> MuJ: Then when i put the drive back in the other machine, the permissions will be changed and stuffed.
[03:25] <Lynoure> thyko: I'd assume they'll stick around until the support period is over
[03:25] <MuJ> ThaZZa: is there some system files then or something like that?
[03:25] <bob_> markc: the capture device is the device where i can hear sound from mic, it doesn't affect recording, right?
[03:26] <ThaZZa> MuJ: you would think there was an easy way to mount a drive, and override the permissions.
[03:26] <MuJ> ThaZZa: there propably is :P
[03:26] <ThaZZa> MuJ: No.. A full system dir, with loads of users accounts set, on the other machine. I just need some stuff off it.
[03:27] <MuJ> ThaZZa: how about chrooting to that system?
[03:27] <markc> bob_> not sure.. how are you reding ?
[03:28] <MuJ> and why don't you just move the files as root?
[03:28] <markc> recording
[03:28] <ThaZZa> MuJ: Ugly way.
[03:28] <MuJ> so? it works :)
[03:29] <bob_> markc: i run alsamixer from console, press F4 (capture devices), it lists ac97in, spdif in/out, src out, i2s in/out. i guess it routes output from mic to these devices
[03:30] <ThaZZa> MuJ: This is Linux.. Not windows. there should be a way.
[03:30] <MuJ> ThaZZa: well that IS one way.. I don't see why you refuse to use it
[03:31] <thor> hello jaffa
[03:31] <ThaZZa> MuJ: 200 Gig of Data.. Is this a good reason why?
[03:31] <MuJ> ThaZZa: that 200 gigs is there no matter what
[03:32] <MehAdult> thor: Stop watching SG1
[03:32] <thor> jaffa
[03:32] <MehAdult> :P
[03:33] <ubuntu> hey guys, I have a question... did any of you managed to install BitTorrent 4.20.x or any newer BitTorrent on a Kubuntu AMD64 machine ?
[03:33] <markc> bob_> I just did an arecord -f dat test.wav but nothing was recorded
[03:33] <ubuntu> because it needs python-psyco and it is not available for x86_64 platforms....
[03:34] <robin> hi all
[03:34] <robin> how to get my ATI drivers workinfg?
[03:35] <Sakireth> !ati
[03:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:35] <thor> no I love sg1
[03:35] <thor> and BG and SGA
[03:35] <thor> my brother's nick is jaffa
[03:35] <bob_> markc: yes i can't record anything too, it writes 44 bytes file
[03:37] <markc> bob_> ah, I just got something recorded when twiddling knobs... have to repeat to see which one made the difference
[03:38] <Sakireth> What is the difference between the 'ati' and 'radeon' driver?
[03:40] <Gioacchino> help I have a problem with k3b it dont work with mi scsi controller
[03:40] <thyko> one is the mother od the other
[03:40] <thyko> of
[03:40] <Gioacchino> but I can read  the cd..
[03:40] <Sakireth> which one is faster?
[03:41] <Sakireth> I have an ATI Radeon 9600 XR
[03:41] <Sakireth> XR*
[03:41] <Sakireth> XT*
[03:41] <markc> bob_> ah!... it's the "i2s in" switch
[03:41] <thor> hello
[03:42] <Sakireth> so which one is faster?
[03:42] <bob_> markc: when i select i2s (or anything else) in capture devices it says L R CAPTURE in red, and i can't tweak level
[03:43] <markc> bob_> cool, I can record some music from the foxtel (cable) menu
[03:45] <markc> bob_>  yer right, doesn't seem to be any volume control, just line/mic for input gain
[03:46] <bob_> markc: so i need to select i2s as capture device?
[03:47] <markc> bob_> to rcord, yes... I'm testing with line in
[03:47] <Jack1> hi guys sometimes translucency is really annoying if the computer doesnt seem to know which window is focussed and therefore shouldnt be translucent
[03:47] <Gambix> hi
[03:48] <Sakireth> then turn it off.
[03:48] <Gambix> is there somebody that can tell me if there is a way to know the kde install path in every distrib ?
[03:48] <ThaZZa> MuJ: I got it sorted.
[03:49] <MuJ> ThaZZa: nice to hear :)
[03:50] <markc> bob_> yep, I just recorded something from my crappy mic... sounds terrible though, no control over gain and popping
[03:50] <ThaZZa> MuJ: since it is a existing linux part. i needed a user with the same UID as the files. Yet what i eneded up with was same GID
[03:51] <bob_> markc: me too, it's almost non-audible though
[03:51] <Gioacchino> please help me
[03:51] <Jack1> how to configure kwallet that it asks me if it shall  store the passwords( its installe already) but doesnt appear in systray
[03:51] <bob_> markc: do you think compiling a new kernel will help?
[03:51] <thor> whats up
[03:52] <markc> bob_> so it's not working for you (recording), at all ?
[03:52] <Gioacchino> please help me
[03:52] <Gioacchino> I cnat burn cd with k3b
[03:53] <Gioacchino> it dont see my scsi master
[03:53] <bob_> markc: it works now, though the volume is very low
[03:53] <Gioacchino> cd burner
[03:54] <Gioacchino> help! help help!!!
[03:55] <Gioacchino> k3b dont see my scsi cd burner but see my ide cd reader
[03:55] <markc> bob_> same here... here's hoping the alsa 1.0.11 driver is better. I tried compiling a new kernel but I couldn't boot
[03:55] <Gioacchino> if I insert a cd in scsi burner  i can read it
[03:56] <v3ctor> Gioacchino: did you run k3b setup?
[03:56] <Sakireth> Hmm.. how to get fglrx? Followed the howto's, but i got the SGI line at the glxinfo thingy. But i did get 3D acceleration
[03:58] <Gioacchino> [15:56]  <v3ctor> Gioacchino: did you run k3b setup? I run star-->multimedia-->k3b
[03:58] <Gioacchino> I run start-->multimedia-->k3b
[03:58] <Gioacchino> but it see my ide reader
[03:58] <Gioacchino> but not see my scsi periferals
[03:59] <Gioacchino> but if i insert a cd with fle into scsi burner i can read the file ...
[04:00] <Sakireth> Hmm.. how to get fglrx? Followed the howto's, but i got the SGI line at the glxinfo thingy. But i did get 3D acceleration
[04:01] <alexis_> bonjour, j'ai un tit bug avec kdesktop, je trouve pas de solution sur le net.
[04:01] <alexis_> le prob est que le dplacement d'icone sur mon bureau dapper/kde laisse des traces...
[04:01] <alexis_> je dois rafraichir mon bureau manuellement pour les faire disparaitre..
[04:02] <alexis_> 3d carte ati avec driver libre (rv280 - pas support avec driver proprio)
[04:03] <alexis_> in english, in kubuntu, when in use drag&drop in the desktop, traces doesn't disapear automaticaly
[04:03] <alexis_> (traces of the move of icones...)
[04:03] <alexis_> and i have to refresh manualy my desktop...
[04:04] <thor> bonjour sorry we understan english here
[04:04] <thor> I understand your desperate but help us out we need to understand you
[04:04] <thor> try the firegl drivers from ati
[04:04] <thor> www.ati.com
[04:04] <thor> thats your driver  wich drive are you using alexis
[04:05] <bob_> markc: new kernel not loading? do yuo have any ideas why?
[04:05] <h3sp4wn> get the latest version make sure you generate dapper packages
[04:05] <alexis_> m 3d seems work correctly with the free radeon driver..
[04:05] <alexis_> (cube and other games works fine)
[04:06] <jackal> hi :)
[04:06] <ranunculoid> hey
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> alexis_: What card ?
[04:06] <alexis_> my prob is in my desktop..
[04:06] <alexis_> rv280 (ati 9250)..
[04:06] <nrdb> is it possible to make an installed application impossible to run by certain users, user A can use mozilla but user B can not?
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> alexis_: You should be using radeon
[04:06] <alexis_> (doesnt work with official ati driver)
[04:06] <alexis_> yes.. is it what i do..
[04:07] <ranunculoid> !nvidea
[04:07] <ricardo> hi everybody...i have a weird proble here...
[04:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about nvidea - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> alexis_: Have you ever installed fglrx before ?
[04:07] <alexis_> my problem is on my desktop (with kdesktop precisely..) (and maybe linked with my graphic card) i guess..
[04:07] <ranunculoid> How do accellerate my nvidea card in kubuntu?
[04:07] <alexis_> when i deplace some icones.. traces appears..
[04:07] <ranunculoid> !nvidia
[04:07] <alexis_> (sorry for my englih.. hum
[04:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:07] <thor> try going to system settings and changing some of the settings in your x display option on the hardware tab it should help you . and dont for get to restart the x server
[04:08] <thor> h3sp4wn how are you doing today
[04:08] <thor> yeah the ati support for linux is shocking at best
[04:08] <ricardo> my fat32 partition is properly loaded at startup but not al files are rwx....some are just r-x....
[04:08] <ricardo> why is that and how can i fix it?
[04:08] <jackal> i have some probs with my internet connection, icq and irc both working fine, but if i want to access an url via opera it takes sometimes up to 4 minutes ?! when i am at the university there is no problem, only  at home where we connect through a router to the inet. any ideas?
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> alexis_: udo dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> alexis_: sudo dpkg-divert --list | grep fglrx
[04:09] <ricardo> here is my fstab line: defaults,rw,user,auto,gid=100,uid=1000,umask=0000,dmask=0000 0 0
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> alexis_: If you get anything there then you need to remove fglrx because it renames some stuff when it is installed
[04:09] <alexis_> i dont use fglrx
[04:10] <alexis_> but radeon drivers
[04:10] <alexis_> yet i make that
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> ?
[04:10] <alexis_> my 3d is ok..
[04:10] <alexis_> my prob is other..
[04:10] <alexis_> (sorry..)
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> !fr
[04:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:11] <nrdb> can you use the users name in conditions for iptables?
[04:12] <gatekeeper> Jack1: same with konqueror?
[04:13] <jackal> gatekeeper: have no konqueror installed
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: you have to be root to modify the tables
[04:13] <jackal> gatekeeper: but will try it, mom :)
[04:13] <gatekeeper> Jack1: did you uninstall it?
[04:13] <jackal> gatekeeper: yep
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: were you going to statically state the different usernames or use a variable ?
[04:14] <ricardo> my fat32 partition is properly loaded at startup but not al files are rwx....some are just r-x....
[04:14] <gatekeeper> Jack1: that will teach you :-)
[04:14] <ricardo> anybody help?
 yes with konqi
[04:14] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: I am at the moment just wondering if it can be done.
[04:14] <gatekeeper> Jack1: same problem?
[04:15] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: my boss wants me to setup a Linux computer for email at work he doesn't want the workers to be able to surf the internet.
[04:15] <mikearthur> does anyone have a good guide for compiling my own apt packages from source?
[04:15] <Gioacchino> I had run k3b setup
[04:16] <gatekeeper> mikearthur: this what you are looking for? http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[04:17] <mikearthur> nice one, thanks
[04:17] <gatekeeper> mikearthur: you are welcome :-)
yes u mean with translucency or kwallet
[04:17] <mikearthur> what would be even better is if kopete wasn't broken :s
[04:17] <Gioacchino> v3ctor: i had run k3b setup
[04:18] <alexis_> http://www.alexis.lautre.net/images/screenshot/capture26.png
[04:18] <Gioacchino> v3ctor: please tell me in private room
[04:18] <robin> Okay i tried everything in the fglrx howto again but i still get NO direct rendering and the string remains 'SGI'
[04:18] <alexis_> to seen what i'm trying to say with my bad scolar english..
[04:19] <alexis_> about my kdesktop problem
[04:19] <gatekeeper> Jack1: now you have lost me thought we talking about putting a URL into a browser?
[04:20] <dr_willis> alexis_,  looks like a video driver issue.
[04:21] <ranunculoid> I'm following the steps on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia for editing my repos with synaptic only it describes options that aren't in the kubuntu version. Can someone tell me how to manualy edit my sources file to have the same effect?
[04:21] <jackal> gatekeeper: that was me :)
[04:21] <dr_willis> install synaptic ;)
[04:21] <ranunculoid> I have installed synaptic
[04:21] <jackal> gatekeeper: two persons with simluar names ;-)
[04:22] <ranunculoid> The guide describes options that aren't in the version I installed
[04:22] <dr_willis> what options are you refering to anyway?
[04:22] <alexis_> probably in my xorg conf?
[04:22] <gatekeeper> ooops
[04:22] <dr_willis> or use that easysource url - to add all the repos
[04:22] <dr_willis> !nvidia-glx
[04:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about nvidia-glx - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:22] <ranunculoid> dr_willis: In the Edit Repository dialog, ensure that the Restricted copyright box is checked, then press OK
[04:22] <dr_willis> ranunculoid,  what version of ubuntu you using? thats in dapper release
[04:22] <ranunculoid> kubuntu
[04:23] <ranunculoid> I'm using kubuntu
[04:23] <dr_willis> actually thats un the "add/remove programs" dialog tool. Not synaptic i recall
[04:23] <ranunculoid> 6.06
[04:23] <dr_willis> so go to the K menu and ryn that add/remove tool :)
[04:23] <dr_willis> and yes - they are getting way too many ways to do that same thing.
[04:23] <ranunculoid> Can you tell me how to do that step by manually editing /etc/source.list?
[04:24] <dr_willis> !easysource
[04:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:24] <dr_willis> enable all the sources for multiverse and universe, thats what those check box's do.
[04:24] <jackal> gatekeeper: konqueror doesnt solved the prob..guess it has something to do with the dns
[04:24] <dr_willis> its getting to be where 'user friendly' is just hiding more things. :(
[04:26] <jackal> hm, cya :)
[04:27] <dr_willis> bascially you edit the sources.list and use              sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-*DEPENDSOnYourKernel*
[04:27] <ranunculoid> dr_willis: I'm lost on that page sorry. I dont see any muklti/universe checkboxes
[04:27] <dr_willis> ranunculoid,  the Multiverse/unuverse IS the 'restricted/comercial' checkbox's -  they just decided to change the names to make it more user friendly. (and confuseing)
[04:28] <jaffa_> Thor good thing i made a back of my xorg.conf :p
[04:28] <dr_willis> Always backup ya xorg.conf :P
[04:28] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: The fact that the versions of ffmpeg etc are crippled is annoying - usefriendly means friendly for all users
[04:28] <dr_willis> i keep dated-archive copies of them for all my machines.
[04:28] <ranunculoid> Oh, ok. I already enabled the multiverse thingy
[04:28] <Kwukki> hi
[04:28] <Kwukki> how can i set a boot pass with  grub?
[04:28] <dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  not friendly for the doc writers. :P they got to  look out for all these trivial facelift changes.
[04:28] <jaffa_> Thor you here??
[04:29] <Kwukki> for all my os'es
[04:29] <dr_willis> Kwukki,  grub has that feature. check the grub  menu.lst file - i think it mentions how. or the online grub docs should give examples.
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: I would rather have the program to work as closely as possible to the documentation on the programs website
[04:29] <dr_willis> dont forget your password.
[04:29] <ranunculoid> dr_willis: My kernel is: 2.6.15-26-386. So would the command be sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386?
[04:29] <dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  yep. I dont even know where that "add/remove" programs item comes from.
[04:30] <dr_willis> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386
[04:30] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386: Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 7946 kB, installed size 21580 kB
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> !info nvidia-xconfig
[04:30] <ubotu> nvidia-xconfig: The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0+20051122-2 (dapper), package size 54 kB, installed size 184 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[04:30] <dr_willis> :) yep. looks like it.
[04:30] <Kwukki> dr_willis : i did it, but mymachine boots normally :-s
[04:30] <dr_willis> Kwukki,  i would have to guess ya missed a step. :)
[04:30] <Kwukki> no
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> install nvidia-xconfig as well that is the easiest way to install it
[04:30] <gatekeeper> ranunculoid: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_change_GRUB_menu_password_if_forgotten
[04:30] <dr_willis> Kwukki,  or its a password just to alter the grub configs
[04:30] <dr_willis> I cant recall ever seeing a password just to BOOT the machine.
[04:31] <dr_willis> that would have to be a Bios thing i think. to be totally secure.
[04:31] <ranunculoid> Is there a chance that installing this nvidea stuff will break my system?
[04:31] <LjL> dr_willis: except one could just remove the cmos battery...
[04:31] <dr_willis> ranunculoid,  i use it all the time. no hassles.
[04:31] <ranunculoid> cool
[04:31] <jaffa_> Hey guyz im still having problems with the Nvidia drivers
[04:31] <dr_willis> LjL,  one could just remove the hd and put it in a different machine also. :)
[04:31] <LjL> dr_willis: yup
[04:32] <dr_willis> one could just put thermite on the cpu. :)
[04:32] <ranunculoid> lol
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> jaffa_: install nvidia-xconfig - and run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'
[04:32] <LjL> well one thing is *destroying* a computer, and one thing is *getting data* from it
[04:32] <LjL> best way to prevent people getting data from it is using encryption
[04:32] <dr_willis> 'theres being paranoid, then theres being not paranoid enough' :)
[04:32] <LjL> passwords just won't cut it
[04:32] <jaffa_> thanx ill try
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> Only terrorists / criminals and banks need insane levels of security
[04:33] <gatekeeper> dr_willis: so far I have bottled out of installing the nvidia drivers, figured if I wasn't running games and all that no need to, everything seems fine so 'if it ain't broke I don't fix it' :-)
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: If you enable composite the screen looks alot clearer
[04:33] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  if ya dont do games,, and dont care for fancy 3d effects/screen savers its no big deal..
[04:34] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  ive installed them so many times - its about a 3 min setup.
[04:34] <LjL> h3sp4wn: "insane" as in "i don't want to invite my friends for a party and while i'm somewhere else have someone boot my box into root and read the very stuff i'd last ever want them to"?
[04:34] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn: screen looks fine as is
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> LjL: My friends wouldn't do that I don't think (or I don't have any of that type of stuff)
[04:35] <ranunculoid> Have they fixed Amarok/amarok-xine yet or can does it still have that bug where it cant play flac files?
[04:35] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: Hard to explain it looks alot sharper (if you are using dvi on an lcd)
[04:35] <gatekeeper> dr_willis: well it looked as if I messed up X wouldn't start so decided not to go there, having said that I do have a system backup if all else fails
[04:36] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  it pays to learn the fundamentals. :P
[04:36] <LjL> h3sp4wn: that your friends wouldn't is your own luck, but saying certain levels of security are "insane" in general is another thing. and the "type of stuff" could simply be mail or chat logs that talk about them, say.
[04:36] <LjL> or that i consider private anyway
[04:36] <dr_willis> could cheat and use  that 'easy ubuntu' script - but last i used it - it needed a little work
[04:36] <jaffa_> what should i do if this doesnt work wen i reboot the system boots but as it gets to the login screen it stops so then i login via konsole and type startx then it tells me that my  kernel module is different to X module 717 sumtin as to 8762
[04:36] <dr_willis> !easyubuntu
[04:36] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:36] <jaffa_> what should i do if this doesnt work wen i reboot the system boots but as it gets to the login screen it stops so then i login via konsole and type startx then it tells me that my  kernel module is different to X module 717 sumtin as to 8762
[04:37] <Gioacchino> !k3b
[04:37] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[04:37] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn: you may well be right, may be I will have a go sometime
[04:37] <ranunculoid> dr_willis: nvidea-glx is installed. Do I have to restart X or reboot for it to take effect?
[04:37] <Gioacchino> !scsi
[04:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about scsi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:37] <dr_willis> you have to restart X - with alt-ctrl-backspace or similer..
[04:37] <ranunculoid> k
[04:37] <jaffa_> what should i do if this doesnt work wen i reboot the system boots but as it gets to the login screen it stops so then i login via konsole and type startx then it tells me that my  kernel module is different to X module 717 sumtin as to 8762
[04:37] <dr_willis> that will totally kill off X and make it restart/back to the kdm login
[04:37] <dr_willis> jaffa_,  you installed the drivers from the nvidia site?
[04:37] <jaffa_> yes
[04:38] <jaffa_> 8762
[04:38] <dr_willis> use the drivers from the repo - is the easy way.. but they are not as up to date.. otherwise you got to recompile some things I think.
[04:38] <dr_willis> the version diff's dont matter to me at all.. so i use the repo versions.
[04:39] <gatekeeper> dr_willis: got a reasonable grasp of linux now, and it improves seeing how peoples problems get solved in hear. My next little project when summer is done is to install Gentoo, looks like that might get me out of the distro update cycle, can just update continually as I go along
[04:39] <dr_willis> I messed with gentoo for a long time.. it has its own 'quirks'
[04:40] <jaffa_> ok but i did this before on mepis and it worked fine explain that please??
[04:40] <dr_willis> jaffa_,  go ask the mepis people.. i tried that disrto for about a week.. and it had other issues.. could be they made some fancy installer scripts that just did the compiling for ya.
[04:41] <dr_willis> I dident see much else mepis offered - then easy setting up of the drivers/multi monitor displays/
[04:41] <gatekeeper> dr_willis: I shall test it out on my test box before commiting to this one
[04:42] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  yea - gentoo is a love it/hate it thing in many ways.
[04:42] <gatekeeper> dr_willis: have to see which way I jump :-)
[04:42] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  you will do both at the same time.
[04:43] <dr_willis> Gentoos portage ystem is neat and nice in ways.. and such a pain in others. :)
[04:44] <gatekeeper> dr_willis: ok, length of compiling and installing concerns me a bit, don't understand why compiling a window manager like KDE or GNOME should many hours, which from what I have heard seems to the case
[04:46] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  lots of littel things gettting compiled.
[04:46] <v3ctor> lots of dependencies
[04:46] <dr_willis> that distcc lets ya spread the work out to other pcs on the networkl
[04:47] <Sakireth> i like kubuntu more than ubuntu,
[04:47] <gatekeeper> dr_willis: have to investigate that as the test box is only a P3
[04:48] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  Ugh.
[04:48] <dr_willis> I dont think Gentoo will be good for you then.
[04:48] <jaffa_> hows about a link for the repo drivers
[04:49] <v3ctor> the reason i won't use it is because i know some of the developers
[04:49] <gatekeeper> dr_willis: what do you reckon is the minimum for gentoo, this one is Athlon XP2200+
[04:50] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  ya could run it on very little hardware.. just getting it all installed can be a weeklong process.
[04:50] <dr_willis> :)
[04:52] <v3ctor> took me about 90 hours to get a "useable" system on a 370MHz box
[04:52] <gatekeeper> dr_willis: sounds like I will have to find a way of connecting to the network in another part of the house, otherwise I won't get any sleep
[04:54] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: You can use packages with gentoo - or setup dist-cc and get the compiling done on a faster box
[04:57] <R1CHARD> good day
[04:57] <R1CHARD> http://www.elcomercioperu.com.pe/EdicionOnline/Html/2006-07-18/onlPortada0542459.html
[04:57] <Harmental> hi everybody...wich encoding should i use for files to be compatible with windows generated files?
[04:58] <gatekeeper> v3ctor: dr_willis h3sp4wn will be an adventure, I love kubuntu the only thing that I have worries over is when you upgrade to the next version, done it a couple of times and had odd little issues, nothing I couldn't fix, but just find it slightly off putting if it's going to be my main box
[04:58] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: Do you have 2 boxes or 1 ?
[04:59] <LjL> ... de windows 98? ...
[04:59] <dr_willis> I always keep /home on its own partition - and just do a clean reinstall.
[04:59] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn: 2, little P3 test box, and main Atlon XP2200+ box
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: Which one is going to get gentoo ?
[05:00] <gatekeeper> Athlon XP2200+ even ooopa
[05:00] <dr_willis> theres used to be some Gentoo Live cd's with Distcc.. so ya could make a Lan be a Distcc Helper Uber-network :) for faster installs..
[05:00] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn: test box to start with, once I have learnt all I need to know and happy, and decide I want it as my main distro it will go on my main box
[05:01] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: Setup dist-cc on kubuntu then
[05:01] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: Then you can compile everything on the other box it will be alot faster
[05:02] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn: ok I will do that
[05:02] <dr_willis> problem with distcc - is that you got to have all the versions identical for the tools (I think)
[05:02] <dr_willis> gcc/distcc may be a little nicer in that area now.
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: Maybe install a chroot of gentoo under kubuntu
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: Then dist-cc
[05:03] <dr_willis> vmware :)
[05:03] <dr_willis> but then ya got 2 installs to do.
[05:04] <dr_willis> there are some prebuild gentoo installer-disrtos out i think.
[05:04] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn: I have certainly got the room
[05:04] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: The time you would save would make it worth it I think
[05:05] <gatekeeper> dr_willis: h3sp4wn thank you very much for your helpfull suggestions much appreciated :-)
[05:06] <calvin> how can i configure a network called on an already installed system?
[05:07] <h3sp4wn> calvin: wireless or wired /
[05:07] <dr_willis> !networkmanager
[05:07] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[05:07] <calvin> h3sp4wn: wired
[05:08] <calvin> does that come installed standard?
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> calvin: /etc/network/interfaces
[05:08] <gatekeeper> time to go catch you all latter
[05:08] <calvin> h3sp4wn: ive tried adding a static entry there, but no go.
[05:09] <h3sp4wn> calvin: man interfaces (really easy to understand for wired interfaces)
[05:10] <calvin> h3sp4wn: yeah ive read it. i added a line 'iface eth0 inet static' with entries 'address' and 'netmask'
[05:10] <calvin> but its unable to ping the gateway.
[05:10] <h3sp4wn> calvin: gateway 192.168.1.1
[05:11] <v3ctor> did you bring interface up after addingf the lines?
[05:11] <calvin> there is an actual gateway entry in the eth0 entry?
[05:11] <calvin> v3ctor: yeah i tried
[05:12] <calvin> let me try it again..
[05:12] <v3ctor> ifup eth0
[05:13] <Lord_Athur> I was trying to validate my OpenPGP key, the launchpad page says that I'd have to descrypt a msn with my key in order to validate, how do I do it?
[05:13] <calvin> how do i manually bring the interface up?
[05:13] <calvin> ifup ?
[05:13] <v3ctor> ifup eth0
[05:15] <calvin> yeah i still cant even ping my router
[05:15] <v3ctor> ifconfig
[05:16] <v3ctor> see if your interface is configured
[05:16] <ironfroggy> yeah looks normal.
[05:16] <ironfroggy> TX and RX are Transmitted and Received, respectively, right?
[05:16] <dr_willis> yep
[05:17] <ironfroggy> so should i consider it weird to see any TX bytes if i seem to have no connection?
[05:18] <nixternal> nope..cuz of loopback
[05:18] <ironfroggy> no i mean on eth0, not on the lo interface
[05:18] <nixternal> even if you unplug the cat5 cable, your network card will always transmit a bit and byte here or there
[05:18] <ironfroggy> o ok
[05:18] <Bernard1> Hello les linuxiens :o) ... Je vais passer a Linux et voudrais savoir o je pourrais trouver un comparatif, un tableau Linux / Windows, merci d'avance :o)
[05:19] <v3ctor> !fr
[05:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:19] <nixternal> especially if you have a "wake on lan" configuration at all, but all tcp/ip nics will transmit "dummy" packets
[05:20] <ironfroggy> ok um, attempting to run dhclient, my router receives the request, and creates a lease for the box, but the box times out and says it never received the request.
[05:20] <Garnol> hi i bought a wireless card from Sitecom and on the Sitecom site there are just drivers for MAC and Windows.... can i find linux drivers on other sites ??
[05:20] <ironfroggy> i only have this trouble on the one box.
[05:21] <v3ctor> Garnol: you need to determine the chipset the card uses
[05:21] <Garnol> oh ... where can i read this form ??
[05:22] <ironfroggy> think i should try a different NIC?
[05:22] <Garnol> ?
[05:24] <nixternal> Garnol: what is the make and model of the card?
[05:25] <Garnol> a PCI 54g ... 2.4GHz
[05:25] <ironfroggy> i seem to not be able to shutdown
[05:25] <ironfroggy> its not even unmounting root
[05:25] <ironfroggy> it stops some services and drops me back at my prompt when i do 'shutdown now'
[05:26] <nixternal> that is odd
[05:26] <nixternal> which version of Kubuntu are you using?
[05:26] <Garnol> me ?
[05:26] <nixternal> Garnol: i mean, is it a Linksys model# 343048 or?
[05:26] <nixternal> no that was for ironfroggy
[05:26] <ironfroggy> nixternal: 6.06 i think? i just downloaded and installed it last night.
[05:27] <nixternal> ok..cool
[05:27] <ironfroggy> ok i just forced it with init 0
[05:27] <nixternal> that always works ;)
[05:27] <ironfroggy> but also odd is that it wouldnt accept 'shutdown -P now'
[05:27] <nixternal> does it do taht everytime though?
[05:27] <ironfroggy> isnt that correct usage?
[05:28] <ironfroggy> nixternal: yeah i tried the shutdown command like 5 times.
[05:28] <nixternal> hmm
[05:28] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: Using fglrx ?
[05:28] <nixternal> ya that is the correct usage
[05:28] <h3sp4wn>  /me is no longer fortunately
[05:29] <nixternal> hehe
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> The very latest drivers were quite alot better - hung on shutdown alot less frequently
[05:29] <nixternal> i have a radeon 9800 and it runs glxgears worse then my nvidia gf4 mx 440
[05:29] <nixternal> mine doesn't hang on shutdown, however im not using binaries
[05:29] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: what is fglrx?
[05:29] <nixternal> radeon drivers
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> binary ati drivers
[05:31] <ironfroggy> what do i need to install for translucency to work?
[05:31] <Bernard1> bon apm :o)
[05:33] <ironfroggy> yay i got a successfuly dhcp lease, but i got an error that /etc/resolv.conf is missing, but do i need that?
[05:36] <ironfroggy> i just did 'apt-cdrom add' so i could get the kubuntu-desktop stuff, and after doing that, it cant seem to find the package, like its _only_ using the cd
[05:37] <ironfroggy> so how do i remove the cd then?
[05:42] <v33> hi, I just installed kubuntu 6.06 on my thinkpad t21 but x won't load... It worked fine out of the box with ubuntu 5.10
[05:42] <v33> is there any known problem?
[05:42] <ironfroggy> is there some way to manually refresh the list of packages?
[05:43] <wilfredH> !dvd
[05:43] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:45] <|lostbyte|> ironfroggy, refresh ?
[05:46] <ironfroggy> |lostbyte|: well, for some reason after i tried to add the install CD as a source for packages, it lost all the kubuntu stuff
[05:46] <ironfroggy> now it cant find kubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <ironfroggy> my only guess is that i should somehow refresh the cache of package listings to fix this.
[05:48] <ranunculoid> Emm... I installed nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386. And typed "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable". But I got an error:-/
[05:49] <ranunculoid> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[05:49] <ranunculoid> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[05:49] <ranunculoid> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[05:49] <ranunculoid> command:
[05:49] <ranunculoid> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[05:49] <ranunculoid> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[05:49] <ranunculoid> from nv to nvidia.
[05:49] <tony__> can someone tell me why i get this error when copying some files? cp: omitting directory `/media/hdb1/apache/htdocs'
[05:50] <ironfroggy> i tried a 'apt-cdrom add' and now a bunch of packages are no long available. what can i do to remedy this situation?
[06:01] <Garnol> who can i ask with a Wlan driver setup problem ?
[06:01] <Hawkwind> Garnol: Just ask.  If someone knows the answer then they will probably help you
[06:02] <Garnol> i have a probelm i dont know how to install the drivers of my Wlan card... ive got one with a RT2500 chipset
[06:02] <Garnol> i downloaded this drivers: RT2500-Linux-STA-1.4.6.4
[06:03] <ranunculoid> Has anybody here successfully installed nvidea drivers on their kubuntu box?
[06:04] <Hawkwind> ranunculoid: Yes
[06:04] <ranunculoid> Ok. I'm having trouble...
[06:04] <ranunculoid> It hangs when starting X
[06:04] <ranunculoid> I had to go into CLI mode and use my xorg.backup file
[06:04] <Garnol> ok... Hawkwind... where can i ask ? is there a other channel where i can ask ??
[06:05] <Hawkwind> Garnol: Just have patience.  Someone that knows will be around soon enough to help
[06:05] <Hawkwind> Garnol: Though have you looked at using ndiswrapper ?
[06:05] <Hawkwind> ranunculoid: Did you edit your xorg.conf file originally and everything ?
[06:05] <Hawkwind> ranunculoid: There is a wiki page that tells you how to install the drivers.  Works every time for me atleast
[06:06] <mute_> dd
[06:06] <ranunculoid> I followed it but it didn't work:(
[06:06] <ranunculoid> !nvidia
[06:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:06] <ranunculoid> ^^That one?
[06:06] <Hawkwind> That's the one I use and it never fails
[06:06] <ranunculoid> That's the one that wont work for me:(
[06:07] <Garnol> what do you mean Hawkwind with ndiswrapper.... whats that ??
[06:07] <Garnol> im a newbee
[06:07] <Hawkwind> !ndiswrapper
[06:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[06:07] <ranunculoid> ndiswrapper is for using windows drivers on linux
[06:09] <h3sp4wn> Make sure you use the tested driver for your card if you don't want stability problems with ndiswrapper (I would also use 1.21)
[06:10] <abattoir> Garnol: you already have downloaded a driver? what is the full name of the file?
[06:10] <Garnol> RT2500-Linux-STA-1.4.6.4
[06:10] <abattoir> Garnol: can you point me to the site where you downloaded it from?
[06:10] <abattoir> if, you did that
[06:11] <Garnol> oh i have to search this site again :(
[06:11] <ranunculoid> Hawkwind: "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" <-- That's the step that fucks it up. Here http://pastebin.ca/91406
[06:11] <h3sp4wn> Garnol: For ralink ndiswrapper maybe better than the native drivers - http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2x00-cvs-daily.tar.gz seems to work the best for me however
[06:12] <abattoir> Garnol: because we have to determine what sort of a file it is, and then install it accordingly
[06:12] <Garnol> ok
[06:12] <Hawkwind> ranunculoid: I never had to do that as far as I remember.  Also, easy on the language
[06:12] <ranunculoid> Sorry
[06:12] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: use sudo nvidia-xconfig (works better for me)
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[06:13] <ironfroggy> "Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop" is what i get when i try to install the package on a machine ive recently done a server installation on.
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: Then sudo nvidia-xconfig (works everytime for me)
[06:14] <ranunculoid> Ok I did that
[06:14] <ironfroggy> i have not removed any repositories in sources.list
[06:14] <ranunculoid> Shall I restart X now?
[06:14] <abattoir> Garnol: brb
[06:14] <Garnol> http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/supp-1.htm. thats the site i downloaded the driver
[06:14] <h3sp4wn> Garnol:
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> I don't think those drivers work very well
[06:15] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Did you enable universe and multiverse ?
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> And they definately don't work with knetworkmanager
[06:15] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: no, but kubuntu-desktop isnt in there is it?
[06:16] <abattoir> Garnol: i get a 404 error
[06:16] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I believe you have to enable them.  I could be wrong
[06:16] <Hawkwind> !multiverse
[06:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:16] <Garnol> hm ok
[06:16] <Hawkwind> serenity: Ackkkkkkk, don't display that stuff
[06:16] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: the thing is, kubuntu-desktop was available before, but then i did a 'apt-cdrom add' and now its just gone.
[06:17] <abattoir> Garnol: going by what h3sp4wn says, then i guess its better to use ndiswrapper
[06:17] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Doesn't that make it to where it looks for the CD for the files ?
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> I would (do) use http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2x00-cvs-daily.tar.gz
[06:17] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I'd look at your sources.list and see what's commented out and what isn't
[06:18] <Jazon> hi everyone.  i cannot figure out how to get acpi / powermanagement working for my laptop (NEC i-Select).  I would appreciate any help
[06:18] <_tom> got my modem recognized, and it dials, but won't log in.  could someone help me find out what is misconfigured?
[06:18] <h3sp4wn> Garnol: Are you certain its not working already if you have an ralink card (at least badly)
[06:19] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: nothing is commented out. dapper, dapper-updates, and dapper-security are all uncommented.
[06:19] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: So try adding universe and multiverse and see what happens
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: Do you have restricted and multiverse for dapper-security
[06:20] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: nothing
[06:20] <v3ctor> what url are they using?
[06:20] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Look at the page ubotu posted above and follow it. Surely you're missing something
[06:22] <gemidjy> how do I get rid of the default setting that's openning a tab in Konqueror (Dapper/Drake)
[06:23] <v3ctor> konqueror > setting > configure konqueror > web behavior
[06:24] <_tom> anyone here online with a modem?
[06:24] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: That also caused X to hang (but in a slightly different way)
[06:25] <ironfroggy> ive read all the repo stuff but i really doubt its a repo issue
[06:25] <ironfroggy> i mean, im getting other packages from the same repo
[06:25] <gemidjy> v3ctor: that is not what I need, one tab is always opened even if I browse only one URL
[06:26] <gemidjy> there was a setting about this while using Slack, it might be Kubuntu's team that moved somewhere else that settings
[06:26] <cox377> i;m trying to run an application and it just says error, can't execute GKSUDO
[06:26] <lafrance> good morngood morning afternoon evening all
[06:26] <v3ctor> yes it is
[06:26] <ranunculoid> salut la france
[06:26] <v3ctor> hide tab bar when only one tab is ipen
[06:26] <v3ctor> open*
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: I just install them manually every time
[06:27] <ranunculoid> Where can I find out how to do that h3sp4wn?
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: I just followed the documentation from nvidia.com
[06:28] <v3ctor> gemidjy: np
[06:28] <ranunculoid> ok. I'll do that
[06:28] <jontec> I need help with wine.
[06:28] <jontec> I downloaded it with adept
[06:29] <jontec> but it's not showing up, is there anything else that I need to do?
[06:29] <encer> hi
[06:30] <cox377> h3sp4wn: i;m trying to run an app and it giving me an error that it can't execute GKSUDO.. u got any ideAS?
[06:30] <v3ctor> jontec: not showing up where?
[06:30] <jontec> in the K menu
[06:30] <abattoir> cox377: try kdesu instead
[06:30] <v3ctor> jontec: it won't
[06:30] <cox377> i'm not trying to launch gksudo
[06:31] <cox377> i'm tyring to launch ndiswrapper
[06:31] <jontec> nope
[06:31] <h3sp4wn> cox377: ????
[06:31] <abattoir> cox377: sudo ndiswrapper would do then
[06:31] <cox377> i try and run ndiswraper and it tells me that gksudo cannot be found
[06:33] <_tom> so no one here has a modem?
[06:35] <doppelganger_> man...  wth..  i can't install kubuntu from the live cd on this machine at work
[06:35] <doppelganger_> i click install on the desktop, it bounces like it's trying, then goes away
[06:35] <doppelganger_> same cd i used at home, zero scratches..  =\
[06:36] <abattoir> doppelganger_: try it on the CLI
[06:36] <doppelganger_> cli?
[06:36] <h3sp4wn> Garol: http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[06:36] <doppelganger_> !cli
[06:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:36] <abattoir> doppelganger_: 'sudo ubiquity'
[06:36] <h3sp4wn> Garol: Find out which chipset it is and I may have alook at in about 15 mins
[06:36] <tony_> can someone help me move some files?
[06:36] <doppelganger_> will try, brb
[06:36] <abattoir> doppelganger_: 'sudo ubiquity kde-ui' if the former doesnt work
[06:37] <doppelganger_> nvm, it came up, now that i switched back and looked at it
[06:37] <doppelganger_> but it took a good few minutes
[06:37] <doppelganger_> weird
[06:37] <tony_> anyone know how to move a bunch of files in the command line?
[06:37] <doppelganger_> it's a 2.4ghz, but..  whatever, it works  ;)
[06:37] <abattoir> doppelganger_: it takes time... i thought you had waited long enough ')
[06:37] <abattoir> ;)
[06:37] <doppelganger_> thought i had too, lol
[06:37] <doppelganger_> thanks aba  =)
[06:38] <tony_> anyone know how to copy a bunch of files?
[06:39] <abattoir> tony_: mv is the cmd. see 'man mv' for more info
[06:39] <Hawkwind> tony_: cp is one way
[06:39] <Hawkwind> mv won't copy them though so be careful with that
[06:39] <tony_> i used cp but it only copies the directory, not the files in it
[06:39] <Hawkwind> tony_: cp -a /directory
[06:39] <tony_> i just want the files moved to my www folder, not the whole directory
[06:39] <tony_> ok, thanks, i'll try it
[06:40] <jontec> I don't know how to get wine to run/
[06:40] <abattoir> jontec: 'wine' on the cli?
[06:41] <tony_> i get "cp: `/var/www/htdocs' and `/var/www/htdocs' are the same file" when it knows good and well i'm not that stupid
[06:41] <abattoir> jontec: you might want to try xwine / winex
[06:41] <tony_> i'm trying to copy all the contents of htdocs up to my www directory
[06:42] <abattoir> !info xwine
[06:42] <ubotu> Package xwine does not exist in dapper
[06:42] <abattoir> !info winex
[06:42] <ubotu> Package winex does not exist in dapper
[06:42] <jontec> what do you mean by cli?
[06:43] <abattoir> !cli
[06:43] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:43] <tony_> ubotu, you're one smart chap, htf do i do it?
[06:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about you're one smart chap, htf do i do it? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:43] <tony_> you da man
[06:43] <abattoir> lol
[06:44] <Hawkwind> tony_: Easiest way is to cd to the /var/www/htdocs directory and then type: cp -a * ..
[06:45] <Hawkwind> tony_: That will take all the contenst of the htdocs directory and move them up one directory which would be /var/www/
[06:45] <tony_> i leave in the ..'s
[06:45] <jontec> well, I have the wine package from the dapper repository downloaded, but how do I actually use it?
[06:45] <Hawkwind> tony_: cp -a * ..
[06:45] <Hawkwind> Just like that
[06:45] <arso> any body into digital photography here?
[06:46] <abattoir> jontec: wine file.exe on the cli
[06:46] <jontec> okay, gotcha
[06:47] <tony_> i keep getting permission denied. what's the default root password?
[06:47] <tony_> i used to know but i forgot. i need to change it
[06:48] <abattoir> tony_: prefix 'sudo' to the command, and enter your user password
[06:49] <tony_> i do but it won't accept the password yet i've used to plenty today for root stuff
[06:50] <tony_> i'm having a hell of a time. my windows partition is giving me trouble, my past ubuntu partition, and now my new one
[06:51] <doppelganger_> is there free virtual machine software like vmware out there?
[06:51] <abattoir> doppelganger_: qemu
[06:51] <abattoir> !qemu
[06:51] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:51] <Hawkwind> doppelganger_: vmware has a free version
[06:51] <abattoir> !info qemu
[06:51] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[06:51] <Hawkwind> vmware-server IIRC it's called
[06:52] <doppelganger_> oh ok. Well someone last night told me it was a pay for, so i was like screw that
[06:52] <tony_> anyone know how to change the root password? google is f'ing with me and making my characters chinese or something
[06:52] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: free = vmware-server ;)
[06:52] <abattoir> doppelganger_: you can also use the vmware player, but it does not create images(but you can use qemu to create them, and then use vmware)
[06:52] <n3storm> sudo passwd root
[06:53] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: I thought that was it but wasn't quite sure
[06:53] <doppelganger_> does networking in windows somehow translate and work through linux as well?
[06:53] <doppelganger_> just, so i know
[06:53] <doppelganger_> if not, there's no point for me
[06:53] <doppelganger_> through the emulator, i mean
[06:53] <doppelganger_> =P
[06:53] <jontec> okay, I have an error with wine:
[06:53] <jontec> Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[06:53] <jontec> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[06:54] <doppelganger_> jontec- run command "winecfg"
[06:54] <doppelganger_> er
[06:54] <doppelganger_> nvm
[06:54] <doppelganger_> read that wrong
[06:54] <tony_> that got it, for some reason i had to change the root password
[06:57] <tony_> anyone know an alternative to "  --ignore-fail-on-non-empty" i don't have all f'ing day to keep typing that anytime i need it
[06:58] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: It didn't work. There's no version for my kernel :(
[06:58] <ranunculoid> Here's the log
[06:58] <ranunculoid> http://pastebin.ca/91448
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: Install build-essential and linux-headers-386
[06:59] <jontec> can anyoen help with my wine problem?
[06:59] <jontec> anyone*
[07:00] <ranunculoid> jontec: Tell us the problem and we'll see if we can help you
[07:00] <Harmental> does anybody knows if there is a known issue with kernel 24, 24, 26 regarding pcmcia wifi cards (i have DLINK DWL G650)?
[07:00] <jontec> I just installed wine
[07:00] <Harmental> kernel 23 works just fine...
[07:00] <jontec> and I'm trying to run an application
[07:01] <jontec> but I get the error:
[07:01] <jontec> Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[07:01] <jontec> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[07:01] <Hawkwind> jontec: Have you joined #WineHQ and asked those guys there since they are the experts ?  Might get a bit more help there
[07:01] <jontec> just what I was about to do, lol
[07:01] <ranunculoid> Hmmm.. Does this happen with every aplication you try to launch in WINE or just one?
[07:02] <Gioacchino> I had resolv the problem
[07:02] <jontec> I tried launching two different apps
[07:02] <jontec> but there were essentially the same
[07:02] <Gioacchino> the version  in kubuntu pacage of k3b is a old version with a bug with scsi
[07:02] <jontec> they*
[07:02] <Harmental> do I have to recompile drivers with new kernel?
[07:02] <ranunculoid> As Hawkwind said, #WineHQ is the place to go jontec
[07:03] <Gioacchino> i had download the source code on www.keb.org of  new version and i install it
[07:04] <ajayc> |apokryphos|: yo!!!
[07:05] <Gioacchino> hem www.k3b.org
[07:11] <lafrance> is there a deb distro for kerri beagle ?
[07:12] <Wolfpaw> hi there....again
[07:12] <Wolfpaw> uhm...Ash-Fox?
[07:12] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, yes?
[07:13] <Wolfpaw> I tried to get my wlan to work with the assistant....but the assistant didnt work
[07:13] <Ash-Fox> did it detect the network?
[07:13] <Wolfpaw> nope
[07:13] <Ash-Fox> try hitting refresh
[07:14] <Wolfpaw> I tried all the time...then I phoned a friend who is a bit more comfortable with linux
[07:14] <Wolfpaw> he told me to type something like ifconfig -r
[07:14] <Wolfpaw> I think this was the command
[07:14] <Wolfpaw> and we discovered that the routing didnt work
[07:15] <Ash-Fox> uhm, routing doesn't matter if you can't detect networks.
[07:15] <Wolfpaw> I dont know if this routing thing is a package which has to be loaded
[07:15] <Ash-Fox> You need to be connected to a network to be able to even use the routing.
[07:15] <Wolfpaw> but however....I found a link http://acx100.sourceforge.net/matrix.html#sitecom
[07:15] <Ash-Fox> You need to be connected to a network to be able to even use the routing.
[07:16] <Wolfpaw> ok, I have a longshine card with the tnetw1130....but there is no longshinecard listet
[07:16] <Wolfpaw> with this chipset
[07:16] <Ash-Fox> You need to be connected to a network to be able to even use the routing.
[07:17] <Wolfpaw> maybe my card will work with a driver for another card?
[07:17] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, what channel is your router on?
[07:17] <Wolfpaw> 13
[07:17] <Ash-Fox> okay, that's your countrycode
[07:17] <Wolfpaw> ?
[07:17] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, what country are you in?
[07:18] <Wolfpaw> germany
[07:18] <Ash-Fox> Okay, just a sec, let me retrieve the countrycode. The issue is really simple, your card thinks it's in America, so it will only communicate with channels upto 11 :)
[07:18] <Wolfpaw> hmm....in windows it works fine ^^
[07:18] <h3sp4wn> countrycode for germany is 276 (if I remember correctly)
[07:19] <Wolfpaw> is this a kubuntu problem?
[07:19] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, no, this isn't a kubuntu problem. give me am oment
[07:20] <Wolfpaw> ok
[07:20] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, okay, type 'sudo rmmod ath_pci' after type 'sudo modprobe ath_pci countrycode=276'
[07:21] <Wolfpaw> uhm....I have to reboot my computer to do that....could you give me a complete description of what I have to do?
[07:22] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, open up a terminal and type 'sudo rmmod ath_pci' after type 'sudo modprobe ath_pci countrycode=276'
[07:22] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, after that, start the wifi assistant, and it should work.
[07:23] <Wolfpaw> do I have to start the wifi assistant with sudo -s?
[07:23] <Ash-Fox> Wolfpaw, no, just start it normally from the K menu
[07:24] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: I ran the nvidia installer and it reported that everything was successful. I rebooted and X wouldn't start. Here's the install log http://pastebin.ca/91467
[07:24] <Wolfpaw> ok I will try it....if it works I will come back to tell....otherwise I will come back too ^^
[07:25] <DocTomoe> Hi ... I have a hard drive that is near to death and am transfering relevant data to a baclup disk. where does kubuntus kmail save its email folders?
[07:25] <h3sp4wn> If the locales are set right the countrycode should not need to be manually specified
[07:25] <Ash-Fox> h3sp4wn, that wasn't my expirence.
[07:26] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: Have you got any more ideas for helping me install drivers for my nvidia card?
[07:26] <Ash-Fox> !nvidia
[07:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:26] <ranunculoid> Yeah I've ben there man
[07:26] <ranunculoid> *been
[07:26] <Ash-Fox> works fine for me
[07:26] <ranunculoid> X just crashes for me
[07:27] <Ash-Fox> Perhaps telling us the exact issue would help..
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: And you removed all the versions from the repos first ?
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> Ash-Fox: I have never had to change that countrycode with kubuntu (however I have for madwifi on mips hence why I know of its existance)
[07:28] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: No... How do I do that? "apt-get remove nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386"?
[07:30] <lafrance> ! Kerry Beagle
[07:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about Kerry Beagle - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:30] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: I ran the above command. Is there anything else I should do before booting into recovery mode to run the installer?
[07:34] <Wolfpaw> re
[07:34] <Wolfpaw> didnt work
[07:34] <Wolfpaw> but the module ath_pci wasnt loaded
[07:35] <Wolfpaw> I first typed sudo rmmod ath_pci and the system said there is no module
[07:35] <Wolfpaw> btw sorry for my bad english ^^
[07:36] <Wolfpaw> then i typed modprobe ath_pci countrycode=276.....started the assistant and I became the message again that i have no rights
[07:37] <Wolfpaw> I started wlassistant wit sudo...but that was the same problem
[07:37] <Wolfpaw> no right
[07:38] <Wolfpaw> got some other ideas?
[07:41] <Wolfpaw> Ash-Fox ?
[07:41] <Ash-Fox> started the assistant and I became the message again that i have no rights <- you entered the password wrong?
[07:42] <Ash-Fox> I've never seen a error that says just "no rights"
[07:43] <Wolfpaw> there was more than "no rights" but I cant translate all the text to english out of my mind....I dont have the message in front of me
[07:43] <Ash-Fox> And I don't have the message either.
[07:43] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: Once again, it didn't work. I must be missing something...
[07:44] <Wolfpaw> the system told me that I have no rights to use wlassistant...and asked..if I have started it with sudo...
[07:44] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: backup i.e sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~
[07:44] <stanks> hi
[07:45] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: then run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:45] <stanks> i have problems with recording audio with xdtv
[07:45] <stanks> picture is ok but i don't have audio
[07:45] <Wolfpaw> and what password....I started it from the live cd....
[07:45] <stanks> caoture line-in and cd are on
[07:45] <stanks> capture
[07:46] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:46] <Ash-Fox> I don't know, I don't use the live-cd.
[07:46] <Wolfpaw> I did only find the live desktop image....
[07:47] <h3sp4wn> The other one is called alternative or alternate (i forget which)
[07:47] <Wolfpaw> I know that I can install it from the cd...but when I tried this with ubuntu the installer crashed at the end
[07:48] <h3sp4wn> use the other cd (used to be called the install cd)
[07:48] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: I think I did that already. I'll try it again. Thanks for helping me btw
[07:48] <trev__> is there a gui for wine?
[07:48] <Wolfpaw> h3sp4wn: the alternative cd is a plain install image and no live?
[07:49] <h3sp4wn> Wolfpaw: It uses debian installer (its the only one I would ever use)
[07:49] <noch> hey guys, does kubuntu come with sql pre-installed?
[07:49] <h3sp4wn> no
[07:49] <Wolfpaw> *g* I thought this is for "linux cracks" with special settings and more special uses...
[07:50] <trev__> can anyone tell me how to mount a ntfs hardrive
[07:50] <h3sp4wn> Wolfpaw: No its just the normal installer
[07:51] <h3sp4wn> Wolfpaw: i.e what you would get with ubuntu breezy using the install cd
[07:51] <Wolfpaw> *g* ok
[07:51] <Wolfpaw> h3sp4wn: I dont understand...
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> There used to be 2 cd's - install and live
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> now they call one the desktop (live) and one the alternative cd (install)
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> debian installer is more reliable
[07:52] <Wolfpaw> jup
[07:53] <Wolfpaw> could this cause the problem that I am using the live cd?
[07:53] <coachJ> what does this do??   sudo ln -fs /usr/bin/rar /usr/bin/unrar
[07:54] <coachJ> anyone
[07:54] <gemidjy> why there ain't kubutnu stickers with ordered cds ?
[07:54] <skavenge> coachJ: links /usr/bin/rar to /usr.bin/unrar
[07:55] <Hawkwind> coachJ: It makes a symlink from /rar to /unrar
[07:55] <coachJ> what does that mean
[07:55] <skavenge> that when you type 'rar' or 'unrar' rar still opens
[07:55] <Hawkwind> It means it links rar to unrar so that if you type unrar it will run the 'rar' command
[07:55] <coachJ> ah, why did rar show up in menu?
[07:56] <coachJ> didn't
[07:56] <skavenge> the GUI is 'Ark', archive manager
[07:56] <coachJ> oh, ok
[07:56] <skavenge> you open that to use rar, under 'utilities'
[07:56] <coachJ> ok
[07:57] <Jazon> hi everyone.  i cannot figure out how to get acpi / powermanagement working for my laptop (NEC i-Select).  I would appreciate any help
[08:02] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: It didn't work. I guess I'm stuck with the generic nv driver...
[08:03] <Hawkwind> It didn't work is pretty vague.  Supplying error messages would help tremendously
[08:03] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: try
[08:04] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: Do you want to try a generic kernel ?
[08:04] <ranunculoid> I'll try it
[08:04] <ranunculoid> Hawkwind: There are no error messages
[08:04] <ranunculoid> X just doesn't launch
[08:05] <Hawkwind> ranunculoid: Sure there are.  You just don't know where to look
[08:05] <h3sp4wn> http://www.milkspank.com/h3sp4wn/dapper/ - download all those 3 files install with dpkg -i *.deb
[08:05] <h3sp4wn> then try installing the nvidia drivers again on that kernel
[08:05] <ranunculoid> Hawkwind: Ok - Tell me where to look then :D
[08:05] <Hawkwind> ranunculoid: There is stuff in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and probably in /var/log/messages
[08:07] <ranunculoid> Hawkin: Found it. I'm looking at Xorg.0.log.old
[08:07] <ranunculoid> Fatal server error:
[08:07] <ranunculoid> no screens found
[08:07] <ranunculoid> Except I have a screen:-/
[08:08] <ranunculoid> I'll stick the whole thing on a pastebin
[08:08] <ranunculoid> Hawkwind: http://pastebin.ca/91524
[08:09] <Ash-Fox> I spend a hour waiting for offlineimap to download all my imap mails to a 'maildir', only to discover that I have to add each folder in kmail as a seperate account.. gah
[08:10] <Ash-Fox> Really not my day. been messing with my imap mail since 7am, it's now 8pm.
[08:12] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: http://pastebin.ca/91524 <-- seeing these errors do you still think that installing a generic kernel might fix the problem? (It's downloading now)
[08:13] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: If you try that kernel you will know whether its a problem with the ubuntu kernel or nvidia or whatever
[08:14] <Mr_Pan> hi, i've a problem with access to graphical mode with user "su" .. no function and i can't set anything on my pc ....
[08:15] <sigge> ubuntu-se
[08:15] <Philip5> Mr_Pan: what do you mean? opening X apps from a shell?
[08:16] <_tom> does anyone know how to enable multiple monitor cards in X?
[08:16] <arso_> hello
[08:16] <Philip5> hi there arso_
[08:16] <arso_> Philip5:  hey, for the first time, i dont need any help :P
[08:16] <Mr_Pan> Philip5, no i want set a printer but tha graphical access with "su" no function ...
[08:17] <Philip5> arso_: oh my
[08:17] <Hawkwind> Mr_Pan: systemsettings  then click on Admin Option or whatever and it will then open it as admin
[08:18] <arso_> Philip5:  hehe
[08:18] <Mr_Pan> Hawkwind, yes i know but when i click Admin Option button password not reconignize
[08:18] <_tom> i'm trying to make a dialup connection on a friends laptop, can someone help me?  the modem already dial's out, but no connection is made.
[08:19] <arso_> so anyone need help :P
[08:19] <Hawkwind> Mr_Pan: Then type the correct password
[08:19] <arso_> ahhha, thats a problem with the uasdj port or the ufc port
[08:19] <arso_> lol j/k
[08:19] <arso_> Philip5:  hmm i got a problem
[08:20] <arso_> Philip5:  not getting any audio from youtube
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> _tom: What app are you trying to use ?
[08:20] <_tom> kppp
[08:20] <Mr_Pan> Hawkwind, i type correct password it's a bug of Kubuntu .... i think
[08:21] <Hawkwind> Mr_Pan: It works here when I type in my password.  No bug that I know of
[08:21] <Philip5> Mr_Pan: stange that it work for everyone else
[08:21] <arso_> no noe?
[08:21] <arso_> one*
[08:22] <imbrandon> Mr_Pan, check your caps lock key
[08:22] <_tom> h3sp4wn: even wvdial dials out, but no connection to the isp...  double checked the settings for the isp...
[08:22] <arso_> youtube, no volume, no idea why, everthing else fine
[08:24] <arso_> usign firefox btw
[08:26] <h3sp4wn> _tom: Tried connecting with minicom ?
[08:26] <_tom> h3sp4wn: never used it
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> _tom: It may seem a bit difficult to use but you can see what is happening with it a bit better
[08:28] <_tom> h3sp4wn: no manual entry for it...
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/unmaintained/PPP-over-minicom
[08:31] <_tom> h3sp4wn: adept is busy updating, is it installed by default?
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> _tom: Its not installed by default
[08:32] <will> hey guys.  I'm brand new to linux.  just installed kubuntu and trying to figure this thing out
[08:32] <Riddell> will: congratulations :)
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> _tom: Its quite hard to use but is the only thing to use when debugging (for me at least)
[08:32] <Jazon> Hi guys.  hey look, I have been searching for a resolution to this issue for two days and have been unable to find one... my NEC i-select laptop is really running hot.  any ideas how to enable acpi feateures???
[08:32] <will> after running into some compatability problems with konqueror, the first thing I tried to do was install firefox
[08:32] <Jazon> btw - i am running dapper
[08:33] <will> what is the most user friendly way to acquire and install new software?
[08:33] <_tom> h3sp4wn: thanks, will have to try it after the updates...  you are the first one here to help me on this!
[08:33] <will> my distru came with adept
[08:33] <Riddell> will: k-menu -> Add/Remove Programmes
[08:33] <will> k
[08:34] <Jazon> will - sudo apt-get install kpackage
[08:34] <hexler> I used adept :) (have installed kubuntu 2days ago and like it ^^)
[08:34] <Jazon> kpackage is easy
[08:34] <_tom> h3sp4wn: i cut my teeth on dos and slackware, so i am used to the CUI
[08:34] <Jazon> nobody has any ideas about my lappy hey?
[08:34] <Riddell> hexler: thanks
[08:34] <FORRA> 5
[08:35] <will> Jazon: what will that get me?
[08:35] <hexler> will: you want to install firefox ?
[08:35] <Jazon> will: a piece of software thats shows you all the programs you can install - one click and its there
[08:35] <will> Jazon: k
[08:36] <coachJ> whats the command to see if my video card is runnind the 3D drivers
[08:36] <will> Jazon: i'm going to restart (ill explain later) and then I;ll try that and let you know if that solves my prob.  if not I'll explain my proble.  thanks
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> _tom: It uses emacs type bindings which I find a bit of a pain
[08:36] <Jazon> will: are you in windoze?? lol
[08:37] <hexler> coachJ: got an ATI card?
[08:37] <will> Jazon: no
[08:37] <coachJ> yes
[08:37] <_tom> h3sp4wn: lol, used to use emacs when was just scrips.  lol
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[08:37] <will> Jazon: kubuntu
[08:38] <_tom> jazon: lol
[08:38] <coachJ> hexler: yes ati
[08:38] <will> Jazon: btw, I'm sure that was somekind of linux joke that is over my head
[08:38] <will> Jazon: yes?
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> _tom: I can use it but I just don't find it that intuative for what I need to do most of the time
[08:39] <_tom> will: that was the customary sarcasm often given to newbies :)
[08:39] <hexler> coachJ: there is an ATI Control Panel in my menu, but this is a special package... w8, I'm looking for it's name
[08:39] <_tom> h3sp4wn: i agree
[08:39] <will> I appreciate you guys giving me the proper welcoming
[08:40] <will> I'll be right back
[08:40] <coachJ> waiting
[08:40] <_tom> jazon: did anyone tell him he won't have to reboot after installing stuff?
[08:41] <Jazon> lol
[08:41] <coachJ> hehe
[08:41] <Jazon> not me <oops ;-)    >
[08:41] <_tom> hahaha
[08:42] <_tom> he'll learn to love the penguin...
[08:42] <hexler> coachJ: try in your terminal this command:  fireglcontrol
[08:42] <coachJ> trying
[08:43] <coachJ> not found
[08:43] <hexler> coachJ: are you using the fglrx drivers ?
[08:43] <coachJ> yes
[08:44] <hexler> coachJ: then u have surely not installed the control panel   download it with the command:  apt-get install fglrx-control
[08:44] <hexler> coachJ: as root
[08:45] <coachJ> ok
[08:45] <oem> can anyone tell me why when i sudo apt-get install eggdrop that well over half of the program is missing compared to the same one i got from the net
[08:46] <coachJ> should something show up in the menu?
[08:46] <oem> its pissin me right off i formated and re-installed to run into the exact same thing
[08:46] <coachJ> i see it now
[08:46] <oem> it shows as fully installed
[08:46] <hexler> coachJ: an ATI ireglcontrolControl ebtry
[08:47] <hexler> coachJ: .. control entry
[08:47] <coachJ> got message says
[08:47] <oem> if i grab this file from the net can someone walk me through installing it?
[08:47] <hexler> coachJ: in the terminal ?
[08:47] <coachJ> driver does not provide the fire GL
[08:47] <oem> i really really really wanna try a eggdrop
[08:48] <coachJ> x11 extensions
[08:48] <coachJ> no from th icon in menu
[08:48] <hexler> coachJ: under render: ?
[08:49] <coachJ> Kicker>ati gets error
[08:49] <hexler> coachJ: hm  sounds not good.  what was the source of your ATI drivers
[08:49] <coachJ> utility has only one tab
[08:49] <coachJ> easyUbuntu
[08:50] <hexler> coachJ: w8  can show u how it looks with my card
[08:50] <coachJ> k
[08:51] <hexler> coachJ: http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto3pn6.png
[08:51] <coachJ> looking
[08:51] <oem> is there anyone here that can walk me through setting up an eggdrop that i got from the net?
[08:51] <will> jason: you still around?
[08:52] <will> hey guys I'm back
[08:53] <will> I tried restarting and still have the same problem.
[08:53] <will> main problem:  I don't know what the hell I'm doing (just came from windows)
[08:53] <will> I'm trying to install firefox (on kubuntu)
[08:54] <hexler> will: don't give up.. I still switched to kubuntu 3days ago ;)
[08:54] <will> before I knew about adept and such I did it windows style: went to the mozilla website and downloaded the tar file
[08:54] <will> hexler: thanks for the encouragement
[08:55] <hexler> will: there is an easyer way  go into your Menu > System > Adept
[08:55] <the_hammer> i left windows to ive tried a ton of different linux copies with in a 3 day period and finally found 1 i like im using ubuntu 6.06 now
[08:55] <will> hexler: ya, well in trying to install from the tar file I think I confused adept.
[08:55] <test> Hi. How can I make my mounted drive icons appear in a different place, like in a folder for instance?
[08:55] <will> hexler: adept says that firefox is installed, but it's clearly  not
[08:55] <the_hammer> ultima 8.1 sucks mandrive sucks slack wares sucks back track sucks xandroas sucks
[08:56] <hexler> will: hm strange.. and trying to delete it and reinstalling it ?
[08:56] <will> hexler: I've extracted the tar into my usr-shared-applications folder
[08:56] <the_hammer> knoppix sucks
[08:56] <the_hammer> i can go on
[08:56] <will> hexler: delete the extracted folder?
[08:56] <the_hammer> lol im a newbie and bet ive tried more linux versions then the older generation
[08:57] <the_hammer> all in a 3 day period to heh
[08:57] <hexler> will: go into your terminal and use the command "sudo -s" to get root privileges
[08:57] <Ash-Fox> God, I wish kmail's imap support wasn't so crappy.
[08:57] <the_hammer> kubuntu doesnt support ati vid cards to well
[08:57] <test> the_hammer: how many?
[08:58] <the_hammer> about 7 or 8 different versions i have and tried
[08:58] <will> hexler: done
[08:58] <the_hammer> out of all of them im enjoying ubuntu
[08:58] <test> the_hammer: Wow that's alot.
[08:59] <hexler> will: now uninstall firefox with: "apt-get remove firefox"
[08:59] <test> the_hammer: I like Ubuntu too. It's real friendly on most things.
[08:59] <calvin> where do i get a flash plugin?
[08:59] <the_hammer> it all started when i d/l knoppix soon as i had that ppl be like thats crap here go get this 1 and try that and it was a circle of events like that and before i knew it i had a heck of a collection
[08:59] <hexler> will: there will be a y/n question..
[08:59] <the_hammer> ya its pretty nice little setup
[08:59] <will> hexler: said "package firefox is not installed, so not removed."
[09:00] <the_hammer> just wish i could make it do more things that i wanna do
[09:00] <hexler> will: then it's (like you said) not installed
[09:00] <will> hexler: im guessing I just don't know how to use adept
[09:00] <hexler> will: install it with: "apt-get install firefox"
[09:00] <test> the_hammer: I was really impressed how easily my wireless card set up being as I use a Broadcom. :)
[09:00] <the_hammer> cool
[09:01] <hexler> will: what we are doing in this moment is using adept..  but in console and not in the GUI
[09:01] <the_hammer> i wish i had of tried linux yrs ago
[09:01] <will> hexler: k well it says that the package firefox is not available  but is referred to by another package...
[09:02] <will> hexler: how do I copy and paste a huge error message without clogging the irc
[09:02] <the_hammer> windows sucks heh everytime ya install it ya have to install 101 drivers disks for your hardware and for ever rebooting from doing that and here linux detects and installs all hardware and the os all in 1 shot
[09:02] <hexler> will: couldn't download the file ? :|
[09:03] <test> the_hammer: I don't think i could even use Windows anymore. I tried the other day and completely messed it up. Usig Ubuntu for to long hehe
[09:03] <the_hammer> lol
[09:03] <will> hexler: yes,  however it says the following packages replace it: libnss3
[09:03] <will> hexler: "pckge firefox has no installation canidate."
[09:04] <will> hexler: do I want to apt-get install libnss3?
[09:04] <the_hammer> i only have a couple of problems with ubuntu BUT thats because i havent a clue as to what im doing yet
[09:04] <test> the_hammer: its true. I dunno why  or how I messed up win, but I did. That told me to stay away from it. heh
[09:04] <hexler> will: install it
[09:04] <vdrmrt> I'm trying to compile a custom kernel but my kernel won't boot, I try to boot from a SATA drive.
[09:05] <the_hammer> lol
[09:05] <will> hexler: will that give me firefox?
[09:05] <vdrmrt> I build the SATA drivers as modules
[09:05] <will> hexler: sorry to ask more questions, but I want to learn what I;m doing so I don;'t have to come on this for every new install
[09:05] <vdrmrt> I also tried to include the SATA drivers directly into the kernel but then I get a compile error
[09:05] <test> the_hammer: What kind of problems?
[09:05] <vdrmrt> ld: Warning: size of symbol `do_drive_get_GTF' changed from 554 in drivers/ide/built-in.o to 1290 in drivers/scsi/built-in.o
[09:05] <vdrmrt> make[2] : *** [drivers/built-in.o]  Error 1
[09:05] <vdrmrt> make[1] : *** [drivers]  Error 2
[09:06] <calvin> where can i post bug reports against universal packages?
[09:06] <the_hammer> i wabba learn eggdrops but no one to teach me and reading forums are useless every 1 ive red they talk about shells meanwhile i wanna load an eggie from my own pc
[09:06] <vdrmrt> anybody any idea's
[09:06] <vdrmrt> ?
[09:06] <test> the_hammer: I would help, but I don't know alot about irc bots either.
[09:06] <hexler> will: apt-get tells you that theres a missing libary file that you'll need to install firefox  so you have to install it..   and with apt-get you can not do much wrong because the source of these packages is directly ubuntu
[09:07] <will> k
[09:07] <arkygeek> any idea why power management options appear in gnome and not in kde?
[09:07] <will> hexler: is apt-get a repository?  or a command? or does it bring up adept?
[09:07] <arkygeek> will: apt-get is a command
[09:08] <gatekeeper> will: it is a command
[09:08] <will> hexler: is there a good website that explains all the commands?
[09:08] <arkygeek> will: a repository is an 'area' where programs are kept.  different categories of repos exist depending upon the state of the program
[09:09] <arkygeek> will: if you type in man apt-get   or man <whatever>  you get a lot of info about the command
[09:09] <gatekeeper> will: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[09:09] <hexler> will: I am German and so I've only a german newby tutorial...  just google and you'll surely find a command list
[09:10] <toptrog> Can someone suggest a gui driven app for burning dvd-iso image files?
[09:10] <centyx> will: in konqueror, type man:/ and hit enter
[09:10] <will> hexler: where in germany?
[09:10] <gatekeeper> will: have you used windows?
[09:10] <Jazon> toptrog: k3b
[09:10] <haffe> toptrog: Are you running gnome or kde?
[09:10] <test> k3b is te best one period. :)
[09:10] <will> gatekeeper: yes.  for too long
[09:10] <Jazon> test: agreed
[09:10] <hexler> gatekeeper: thx. this commands are helping me too ;)
[09:10] <toptrog> I'm running gnome and am new to linux...needs to be simple for now.
[09:11] <haffe> gnome-baker.
[09:11] <hexler> will: in the east of germany in the bundesland Sachsen
[09:11] <gatekeeper> will: take a look at this: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[09:11] <Jazon> toptrog: nothing simpler than k3b
[09:11] <will> centyx: thanks.  bookmarked
[09:11] <toptrog> Jason:  is k3b installed with default install? or do i need to install it.
[09:12] <Jazon> toptrog: you will need to install it i thinkl
[09:12] <gatekeeper> will: also created a little home page with some usefull links: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[09:12] <will> hexler: I've spent a few days in Germany.  They showed me a VERY good time
[09:12] <will> hexler: had a lot of fun
[09:12] <LjL> k3b is there by default AFAIK, it's under multimedia
[09:12] <will> hexler: congrats on the world cup finish
[09:12] <gatekeeper> hexler: yw :-)
[09:12] <Jazon> toptrog: by the way... try typing jaz<tab>  and see what happens
[09:12] <haffe> toptrog:  If you installed kubuntu-desktop it's there by default.
[09:12] <Jazon> works for any name
[09:12] <hexler> will: yeah  it was a great world cup ^^
[09:12] <Jazon> also any command
[09:13] <Jazon> toptrog: for example if you type in sudo apt-g<tab> it completes it for you.
[09:13] <will> hexler: not so much from our standpoint here in the US, but thats not a shocker
[09:13] <the_hammer> sorry got distracted changin a stinky bum
[09:13] <toptrog> Jazon: thanks...will give it a try
[09:13] <curumo> why
[09:13] <the_hammer> test ya never tried eggdrops?
[09:14] <test> the_hammer: nope. I've heard about them though.
[09:14] <curumo> test sucks
[09:14] <test> curumo: why?
[09:14] <will> gatekeeper: thanks for the links.  they look helpful on first glance.  I've bookmarked them and will check them out.
[09:14] <Tm_T> Jazon: lucky you
[09:15] <curumo> because you're gay
[09:15] <LjL> !ops
[09:15] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[09:15] <gatekeeper> hexler: if you want to get more adventerous: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#toc6
[09:15] <Tm_T> curumo: err
[09:15] <test> curumo: That isn't very nice.
[09:15] <centyx> can anyone tell me how to tell konqueror not to use the system colors? usually in firefox i just type in about:config in the address bar...
[09:15] <gnomefreak> ty
[09:15] <hexler> will: some weeks before the world cup there weren't much people interested in the games too here in germany
[09:15] <test> Thank you
[09:15] <gatekeeper> will: no problem hope they prove helpfull :-)
[09:15] <Tm_T> bah, I'm old and slow :(
[09:16] <the_hammer> dont feel so bad im old and slow to
[09:16] <hexler> will: because nobody thought that the german team will be so good xD
[09:16] <imbrandon> heh dont feel bad, i dident even op up yet ;)
[09:16] <the_hammer> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon643200+ at 1005 MHz (2012 bogomips), , RAM: 404/500MB, 98 proc's, 1.47h up
[09:16] <the_hammer> see im a turtle
[09:16] <will> hexler: well, atleast fishing and golf are not bigger sports than "soccer" in germany
[09:16] <toptrog> Jazon: started k3b install and it mentions it needs kde stuff...i'm running gnome. continue?
[09:16] <LjL> toptrog: it will work, but it also *will* install a bit of stuff. depends on you.
[09:16] <Jazon> yeah
[09:17] <will> hexler: well, I think you guys were less of a shock than the French presence in the final
[09:17] <Jazon> toptrog: thats no problem
[09:17] <LjL> toptrog: if you use aptitude, the stuff will be easy to remove later. otherwise it can be sort of harder
[09:17] <toptrog> thanks guys....will continue.
[09:17] <LjL> !offtopic
[09:17] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:17] <hexler> will: *lol*
[09:17] <imbrandon> the_hammer, you should apt-get install the -k8 kernel and maybe even kde 3.5.3 from kubuntu.org ;P
[09:17] <Tm_T> just to warn you kids, behave or I come to your dreams: http://kapsi.fi/tm_travolta/kuvat/temps-01.jpg
[09:17] <will> hexler: I cant belv they beat brazil.  god, I love to watch ronaldinho play
[09:17] <will> hexler: anyway, back to you advice...
[09:17] <the_hammer> hehe
[09:18] <hexler> will: yeah  where did we stop xD
[09:18] <will> hexler: I tried updating the library and it said I already have the newest version so nothing was done
[09:18] <hexler> will: hm :|
[09:18] <the_hammer> who owns the eggie here anyway?
[09:18] <LjL> on #kubuntu-offtopic they're talking about make errors with qmake. here's football and eggdrops... there's something strange, though i can't focus what precisely..
[09:19] <newbieperson> hi folks
[09:19] <toptrog> LjL: what's aptitude? And I've already stated the dl for the k3b stuff.
[09:19] <hexler> will: it must work ...  and when you trying it again in Adept
[09:19] <LjL> !aptitude
[09:19] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[09:20] <doppelganger> !flexbox
[09:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about flexbox - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:20] <kcburyshaker> how do i enable the multiverse in adept?
[09:20] <newbieperson> I have a question about kubuntu dapper. I have to make "sudo ifdown eth0" , "sudo ifup eth0" everytime I restart the machine to get an internal ip from the router. could somebody tell me how to make a script that will do it on startup?
[09:21] <will> hexler: ok, I just checked and my firefox folder (extracted files for the TAR file) is still in my applications folder
[09:21] <will> hexler: that should be deleted right?
[09:21] <hexler> will: yes
[09:21] <will> how do you switch to SU in the gui?
[09:21] <nemesis> hello every one :-)
[09:21] <centyx> hi nemesis
[09:21] <gatekeeper> kcburyshaker: Adept -> manage repositories
[09:21] <test> nemesis: Hiya.
[09:22] <nemesis> :-)
[09:22] <kcburyshaker> yes, but what do i hafta type in
[09:22] <nemesis> does any one know a really good place to get documentation on c++ for ultimate begginers ? like pdfs, docs or html?
[09:22] <hexler> will: I have found an other method...  have you got a "Add/Remove Programs" entry in the K-Menu?
[09:22] <kcburyshaker> is it the backports multiverse?
[09:23] <will> hexler: yes
[09:23] <hexler> will: start it
[09:23] <will> hexler: first, Im still trying to remove that folder
[09:23] <will> hexler: but lack su permissions
[09:23] <will> hexler: is there a way to switch to su in the gui?
[09:23] <gatekeeper> kcburyshaker: remove the # at the begining to uncomment the repos
[09:23] <test> nemesis: Sorry. Couldn't tell ya.
[09:23] <kcburyshaker> ok
[09:24] <Jazon> will: yes. start the app from the console with sudo <app>
[09:24] <hexler> will: haven't found a way yat  I deleted it in the console
[09:24] <CaBlGuY> wuttup peeps..
[09:24] <haffe> Jazon: Or better yet, kdesu <app> in the run dialog.
[09:25] <test> CaBlGuY: Hiya.
[09:25] <Jazon> haffe: sure
[09:25] <CaBlGuY> anyone wanna help me with installin a printer..
[09:25] <CaBlGuY> :p
[09:25] <the_hammer> why is it such a chore to get help at times?
[09:25] <Jazon> will: run dialogue is Alt-F2
[09:25] <will> k done.
[09:25] <haffe> CaBlGuY:  What is the trouble?
[09:25] <hexler> will:  go into the Add/Remove progams
[09:25] <test> the_hammer: I have asked myself the same question....
[09:26] <CaBlGuY> haffe:   ummmm  i need to "install" it..
[09:26] <CaBlGuY> :p
[09:26] <will> hexler: done
[09:26] <tony_> can someone tell me why my php page downloads instead of getting viewed by the browser?
[09:26] <LjL> tony_: your apache probably isn't set to handle php
[09:26] <amine> hi all
[09:26] <will> hexler: in adept installer
[09:26] <hexler> will: search for firefox  but you hace to choose "Any Suite" in the popup
[09:26] <test> amine: Hiya
[09:26] <tony_> i did an apt-get install php5 and it supposedly worked
[09:26] <haffe> CaBlGuY:  Have you verified that your printer is linux compatible?
[09:27] <will> hexler: it found it, but it is greyed
[09:27] <CaBlGuY> haffe:  ummmmm  hell I dunno,  I just need to install the dam thing..  :/
[09:27] <CaBlGuY> it's a Lexmark..
[09:27] <haffe> Could you tell me what printer it is?
[09:27] <LjL> tony_: the php interpreter itself will work, but i think you'll need to symlink one or two files from the /etc/apache2/mods-available dir to the /etc/apache2/mods-loaded dir
[09:27] <hexler> will: and you can't select it ?
[09:27] <CaBlGuY> Lex Z600 series.
[09:28] <will> hexler: no
[09:28] <tony_> uhh, i need that in lamens. that's why i'm having a time with this
[09:29] <tony_> i think i know what you mean
[09:29] <tony_> is a symlink=shortcut
[09:29] <hexler> will: hm :| sry but I'am too new in linux to find a solution and I don't realy know why you can't choose ut ...
[09:29] <CaBlGuY> well sheet..
[09:30] <will> hexler: could I not be logged in as SU in the installer?
[09:30] <CaBlGuY> :/
[09:30] <LjL> tony_: sort of. type "man ln". shortly, you can create a symlink with "ln -s <file> <link>"
[09:30] <CaBlGuY> anyone else wanna try helpin me..
[09:30] <CaBlGuY> :p
[09:30] <gatekeeper> will: what's the problem
[09:30] <hexler> will: doesn't ask you kubuntu for root privileges when you are starting this program ?
[09:30] <kcburyshaker> ok   i am pretty sure i have uncommented all the depositories in adept, and then closed it and went to konsole and did"sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin" but it still says it cannot find it
[09:31] <will> hexler: ya it does
[09:31] <tony_> i have no mods-loaded dir in that dir
[09:31] <will> hexler: and I did
[09:31] <kcburyshaker> what the heck am i doin wrong
[09:31] <will> hexler: nevermind
[09:31] <CaBlGuY> !tell kcburyshaker about java
[09:31] <LjL> kcburyshaker: java is in multiverse. multiverse is not even mentioned by default in sources.list
[09:31] <LjL> !tell kcburyshaker about repos
[09:31] <will> gatekeeper: I can't seem to install firefox
[09:31] <CaBlGuY> !tell kcburyshaker about restricted
[09:31] <CaBlGuY> there
[09:32] <will> gatekeeper: i found it in the adept installer but it is greyed out and won't let me select it
[09:32] <tony_> LjL: i have a mods-enabled dir, is that what you mean?
[09:32] <LjL> tony_: yeah
[09:32] <tony_> LjL: can i just symlink all of them since i'm not sure which i need?
[09:32] <gatekeeper> will: from the konsol sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:32] <LjL> tony_: better not
[09:32] <tony_> there's like 5 symlinked there already
[09:33] <kcburyshaker> i already tried the sudo thing
[09:33] <will> hexler: thanks for trying.  The charity support you guys give on this is amazing.  thanks again.  enjoy Germany.  I hope to make it back someday
[09:33] <will> hexler: ive tried that
[09:33] <gatekeeper> will: when you start adept it should ask you for your password
[09:33] <kcburyshaker> it tells me there is nothing
[09:33] <kcburyshaker> damn this is frustrating
[09:33] <will> gatekeeper: it did
[09:33] <CaBlGuY> kcburyshaker:  what exactly is is sayin when you try to install Java5?
[09:33] <gatekeeper> !pastebin
[09:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:33] <kcburyshaker> all i want is a plugin for firefox
[09:34] <kcburyshaker> hold on  ill try it again and paste it
[09:34] <CaBlGuY> kcburyshaker:  ok..  have you tried the software installer...  adept..
[09:34] <gatekeeper> kcburyshaker: copy /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin
[09:34] <v3ctor> she sent me there
[09:34] <CaBlGuY> yea, don't paste it here
[09:34] <v3ctor> oops...wrong term
[09:34] <LjL> tony_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP seems to have some info about your problem
[09:34] <kcburyshaker> what is pastebin
[09:34] <will> gatekeeper: in order to find firefox, I have to change to "any suite".  is firefox not supported in kde
[09:35] <CaBlGuY> !tell kcburyshaker about pastebin
[09:35] <tony_> thanks
[09:35] <kcburyshaker> ahhhh geesus  another webpage?
[09:35] <gatekeeper> will: just the way it organises packages
[09:35] <kcburyshaker> screw it
[09:35] <kcburyshaker> crap like this makes me wanna go back to windows
[09:35] <CaBlGuY> kcburyshaker:  yep..  gotta get used to it when your usin Linux..
[09:36] <gatekeeper> !pastebin > kcburyshaker
[09:36] <CaBlGuY> LOTS of stuff to read.  ;p
[09:36] <kcburyshaker> all i want is a firefox plugin for java
[09:36] <kcburyshaker> why is this sop hard
[09:36] <CaBlGuY> kcburyshaker:  trust me I know..  I went through the same thing..
[09:36] <sudomaster> hey ppl, are there any java plugins for konqueror?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: its not just sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[09:36] <gnomefreak> !java
[09:36] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:36] <CaBlGuY> kcburyshaker:  you just have to install the correct packages and make sure you got the right repos enabled
[09:36] <sudomaster> hi
[09:37] <gnomefreak> sudomaster: and kcburyshaker go to the above link
[09:37] <CaBlGuY> hey gnomefreak  o/
[09:37] <gnomefreak> hi CaBlGuY
[09:37] <kcburyshaker> i know i have multiverse enabled now cuz before there were just like 4400 downloads...now there are tens of thousdands
[09:37] <gatekeeper> kcburyshaker: it's a piece of cake, I guess you are still learning and it takes time
[09:37] <will> gatekeeper: what do you mean?
[09:37] <sudomaster> when i get any packages on Adept, they say the packages failed or broke or something...
[09:38] <CaBlGuY> kcburyshaker:  ok, so, you have done toe upgrade..  now, ahve you restarted your machine yet..  that might help..
[09:38] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: multiverse shouldnt give you that many
[09:38] <kcburyshaker> you hafta restart?
[09:38] <kcburyshaker> i havent done that
[09:38] <CaBlGuY> not al the time but every once in a while..
[09:38] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: if you upgraded kernel
[09:39] <will> gatekeeper: sorry, I don't have the jargon down right.  Ive been spoiled by years of handsoff install with windows
[09:39] <tony_> LjL: it was enabled already but it's still downloading them with the dl manager
[09:39] <kcburyshaker> well i did upgrade the kernel  but i did reboot when i did that
[09:39] <CaBlGuY> LOL @ will..   I understand to bro..
[09:39] <will> gatekeeper: does each program have multiple packages. or does 1 program = 1 package
[09:39] <tony_> LjL: am i better off just reinstalling?
[09:39] <CaBlGuY> ok kcburyshaker you should be good to go then..
[09:39] <LjL> tony_: uh no, why?
[09:39] <CaBlGuY> gnomefreak:  can u help him from here..
[09:40] <LjL> tony_: what is still downloading?
[09:40] <test> Anybody know what an egg_desktop error is and why I get it only after updating to the 26 kernel?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> is it just java he needs?
[09:40] <kcburyshaker> bwtf   now adept wont start
[09:40] <CaBlGuY> yes..  for firefox plugin
[09:40] <tony_> LjL: the php pages. they won't display, just download
[09:40] <kcburyshaker> yes  java and maybe a flash plugin
[09:40] <kcburyshaker> ill start with just the java
[09:40] <CaBlGuY> and kcburyshaker just be patient, it takes time to do stuff in Linux..
[09:40] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: have you restarted?
[09:41] <sudomaster> Everyone go to #albinoblacksheep!!!
[09:41] <kcburyshaker> let me reboot...ill brb
[09:41] <CaBlGuY> sudomaster:  why??
[09:41] <CaBlGuY> :p
[09:41] <gnomefreak> sudomaster: do that somewhere else
[09:41] <LjL> tony_: try "chmod a+x filename.php" on the php pages
[09:41] <sudomaster> sorry
[09:41] <tony_> LjL: i installed php by dl'ing it from the site first then i used the apt-get method since i thought it screwed up. i'm wondering if that's my prob
[09:41] <sudomaster> Hey, can someone help me get adept working?
[09:41] <LjL> tony_: oh. well it could be.
[09:41] <LjL> !packages
[09:41] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:42] <tony_> LjL: i did. they download. on the ones i didn't chmod, they just won't display
[09:42] <CaBlGuY> sudomaster:  just say what the problem is and someone will speak up...
[09:42] <sudomaster> Adept says every package is broken
[09:42] <will> I hate windows, mostly because you never know what viruses and random applications are funning in the background.  but it is nice not having to spend 5 hours installing one program
[09:42] <sudomaster> But my install is fine
[09:42] <CaBlGuY> sudomaster:  have u updated?  or upgraded?
[09:42] <sudomaster> no, i'm using ubuntu 6.10
[09:43] <CaBlGuY> I know will   I know..  :p
[09:43] <gnomefreak> sudomaster: than most are broken
[09:43] <test> Anybody know what an egg_desktop error is and why I get it only after updating to the 26 kernel?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> sudomaster: edgy is not ready to be used yet
[09:43] <CaBlGuY> sudomaster:  ok, so do an update..
[09:44] <tony_> LjL: also i think when i installed php by apt-get it installed apache1 over apache2 or something. apparently apache1 was running. i'll get it going. thanks for the help
[09:44] <CaBlGuY> 6.10??
[09:44] <LjL> tony_: you have both a php.conf and a php.load in the mods-enabled/ dir?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> CaBlGuY: thats edgy
[09:44] <CaBlGuY> Ahhh
[09:44] <CaBlGuY> I was wonderin..
[09:44] <sudomaster> hey, thanks
[09:44] <sudomaster> #include.h
[09:44] <LjL> tony_: oh. "sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop; sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[09:44] <gnomefreak> knot one hasnt been released yet
[09:44] <sudomaster> #albinoblacksheep
[09:44] <kcburyshaker> ok
[09:44] <kcburyshaker> i have rebooted
[09:45] <amine> hello, i have a problem with installing pakages from the kubuntu 6.06 dvd
[09:45] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[09:45] <amine> Can someone help me
[09:45] <amine> ??
[09:45] <gatekeeper> will: repos list both programs and dependant libraries
[09:45] <will> anyone know why adept manager says that firefox is "installed" (when it is not) and why in adept installer firefox is greyed out and cannot be selected?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> will: tyoe mozilla-firefox in terminal
[09:46] <kcburyshaker> it said it couldnt find it
[09:46] <gnomefreak> s/tyoe/type
[09:46] <CaBlGuY> amine:  don't ask to ask, just askl..  ;)
[09:46] <tony_> LjL: ok, i stopped 1 but apache 2 won't start. i get "Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"
[09:46] <kcburyshaker> wtf
[09:46] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: you dont have multiverse and universe enabled
[09:46] <kcburyshaker> im pretty sure i do
[09:46] <will> gnomefreak: "command not found"
[09:46] <kcburyshaker> i uncommented them in adept
[09:46] <CaBlGuY> kcburyshaker:  if you did, it would find it..
[09:46] <gnomefreak> nope make sure its not hte backports repo
[09:46] <kcburyshaker> hmmmm
[09:47] <CaBlGuY> kcburyshaker:  just check to be sure..
[09:47] <kcburyshaker> then let me open adept and tell you what i have
[09:47] <gnomefreak> will: apt-cache policy firefox
[09:47] <CaBlGuY> always a good idea
[09:47] <gatekeeper> gnomefreak: I was trying to get him to put his sources.list into pastebin to see what he had altered
[09:47] <CaBlGuY> amine: ..... ?
[09:47] <amine> i have a problem with installing pakages from the kubuntu 6.06 dvd, i see there are .deb files in the folder "pool" but i dont find the installer... can someone help me?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> gatekeeper: who?
[09:47] <gatekeeper> gnomefreak: kcburyshaker
[09:48] <CaBlGuY> amine:  what exactly are you trying to install??
[09:48] <gnomefreak> amine: you dont install them directly from dvd you use apt to grab them from cd
[09:48] <gnomefreak> gatekeeper: ok ty
[09:48] <amine> firefox for example
[09:48] <kcburyshaker> it says i have 18332 packes availible for download
[09:48] <LjL> tony_: are you sure it isn't running anyway?
[09:48] <will> gnomefreak: installed: (none)   canidate: (none)  version table:
[09:48] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[09:48] <kcburyshaker> ok  hold on
[09:48] <gnomefreak> will: not sure than are both firefox and mozilla-firefox greyd out?
[09:48] <CaBlGuY> amine:  ok, use adept are sudo apt-get install firefox on the command line
[09:49] <amine> i dont understand , i am a newbie
[09:49] <CaBlGuY> amine
[09:49] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[09:49] <tony_> LjL: I get this when going to my page: "Warning: Unknown: Failed opening '/var/www/index.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0"
[09:49] <CaBlGuY> !tell amine about apt-get
[09:49] <CaBlGuY> read that..
[09:49] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[09:49] <will> gnomefreak: to find either mozilla or firefox I have to switch to "any suite"
[09:49] <will> gnomefreak: and both are greyed out when found
[09:50] <tony_> LjL: i may be better off uninstalling and starting over, everything's screwy
[09:50] <gsasha> My problem is not exactly kubuntu (I do use one...), but the Flash plugin does not work in Mozilla (it does work in Konqueror). Any ideas on what to do?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> will: when you ran apt-cache policy firefox what repo did it give at the bottom?
[09:50] <noxs> hi all und guten abend
[09:51] <CaBlGuY> howdy noxs o/
[09:51] <will> gnomefreak: didnt say
[09:51] <gnomefreak> will: can you also paste you /etcapt/sources.list file to pastebin
[09:51] <kcburyshaker> where is pastebin again
[09:51] <gnomefreak> hopeisemo: you have 9 more mins to sleep
[09:51] <gatekeeper> gnomefreak: Firefox looks to be in the standard repos
[09:51] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[09:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:52] <gnomefreak> gatekeeper: it should be yes
[09:52] <gnomefreak> gatekeeper: im wondering if his list isnt compleete
[09:52] <gatekeeper> gnomefreak: possible :-)
[09:52] <amine> there is an error
[09:52] <gnomefreak> - hopeisemo  + Hobbsee
[09:52] <will> gnomefreak: how do I do that
[09:52] <CaBlGuY> amine:  whats it say?
[09:53] <Hobbsee> hi gnomefreak
[09:53] <CaBlGuY> Howdy Hobbsee   o/   :D
[09:53] <Hobbsee> hi CaBlGuY
[09:53] <gnomefreak> hopeisemo: kdsu is =  to gksudo right?
[09:53] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: hmm?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> ddamn
[09:53] <CaBlGuY> How ya doin babe..  ;)
[09:53] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee:  kdsu is same as gksudo right?
[09:53] <CaBlGuY> amine:     ??
[09:53] <abattoir> kdesu
[09:53] <kcburyshaker_> ok i sent it
[09:53] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: may i have the link
[09:54] <gatekeeper> gnomefreak: kdesu
[09:54] <gnomefreak> ty
[09:54] <gatekeeper> yw :-)
[09:54] <gnomefreak> will: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:54] <aurel> high
[09:54] <kcburyshaker_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18292
[09:54] <CaBlGuY> amine:  what was the error please..
[09:54] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: yeah
[09:54] <moparisthebest> im hoping someone can help me, everything has been good for weeks and I log in just now any my resolution is at 640x480 and I cant seem to change it?
[09:55] <CaBlGuY> moparisthebest:  need to re-install your video driver..
[09:55] <CaBlGuY> easy fix
[09:55] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: ok you still have the fiole open?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> file*
[09:55] <kcburyshaker_> yes
[09:55] <will> gnomefreak: then just cut and paste?
[09:55] <kcburyshaker_> the sorces list file
[09:55] <moparisthebest> ok CaBlGuY do they just stop working every now and then or somthing?
[09:55] <amine> (in frensh) the error:   E: Paquets dfectueux
[09:55] <kcburyshaker_> cut and paste what
[09:56] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: good now the 4 repos you have that the last word is universe add a space and type multiverse
[09:56] <gnomefreak> will: yes
[09:56] <CaBlGuY> moparisthebest:  well, I have run into an instance where I had to re-install...
[09:56] <will> root@Wills-laptop:~# kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:56] <will> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:56] <moparisthebest> ok, sounds right, ill try it :)
[09:56] <will>   Major opcode:  145
[09:56] <gnomefreak> will: no
[09:56] <will>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:56] <gnomefreak> will: thats ok
[09:56] <CaBlGuY> K moparisthebest..  ;)
[09:56] <will>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:56] <will> Failed to open device
[09:56] <will> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:56] <kcburyshaker_> you mean on that last line after the word universe type multiverse?
[09:56] <will>   Major opcode:  145
[09:56] <CaBlGuY> amine:  U still around or what??  :p
[09:56] <will>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:56] <will>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:56] <will> Failed to open device
[09:56] <will> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:56] <will> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:56] <will> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[09:57] <abattoir> !paste > will
[09:57] <newbiep> re folks.
[09:57] <amine> the command line will search the pakages to install it from internet or the dvd??
[09:57] <CaBlGuY> :O
[09:57] <gnomefreak> yes kcburyshaker just make sure you put a space after universe
[09:57] <CaBlGuY> !pastebim
[09:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebim - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:57] <CaBlGuY> !pastebin
[09:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:57] <CaBlGuY> will:  use that next time..
[09:57] <CaBlGuY> please
[09:57] <CaBlGuY> :/
[09:57] <kcburyshaker_> it looks like there is a period ofer the word universe, delete that also?
[09:57] <newbiep> could somebody help me? changing the interfaces file didn't help ... and I couldn't make a .sh file with sudo ifdown eth0 sudo ifup eth0
[09:57] <gnomefreak> will: dont owrry about that paste the contents of the file to pastebin
[09:57] <will> !pastebin
[09:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:57] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: you dont want periods
[09:57] <newbiep> the problem is ... after every reboot the computer doesn't get its ip automatically as it should
[09:58] <kcburyshaker_> ok
[09:58] <kcburyshaker_> i did that and saved it
[09:58] <gnomefreak> it should look simular to this :deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[09:58] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: sudo apt-get update
[09:58] <kcburyshaker_> ok
[09:58] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker: when thats done sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[09:58] <gatekeeper> catch you folks latter
[09:59] <CaBlGuY> same..   gonna go watch some TV..
[09:59] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[09:59] <CaBlGuY> see ya Hobbsee, gnomefreak, o/
[09:59] <will> gnomefreak: well I just tried out the pastebin for practice
[09:59] <will> gnomefreak: did that work?
[09:59] <kcburyshaker_> omg
[10:00] <kcburyshaker_> it still said it cant find it
[10:00] <gnomefreak> will: i dont know you need to give me the link after you click send
[10:00] <kcburyshaker_> gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:00] <will> gnomefreak: k.  well next time
[10:00] <newbiep> . /etc/network/interfaces looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18294
[10:00] <kcburyshaker_> guys i want this to wrok  i really really do
[10:00] <kcburyshaker_> but this is too frustrating
[10:01] <kcburyshaker_> all i want is a plugin for java for firefox
[10:01] <kcburyshaker_> why is it so easy in windows and so hard for linux
[10:01] <will> gnomefreak: did my inappropriate paste tell you anything?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> no
[10:01] <kcburyshaker_> why cant i find this frickin packaGE????
[10:02] <gnomefreak> kcburyshaker_: what does lsb_release -a output
[10:02] <will> gnomefreak: I JUST installed kubuntu.  this is the first thing I am trying to install.  Have I skipped a step or something?  or did I get a bad install of kubuntu?
[10:02] <kcburyshaker_> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[10:02] <kcburyshaker_> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[10:02] <kcburyshaker_> Release:        6.06
[10:02] <kcburyshaker_> Codename:       dapper
[10:03] <LjL> kcburyshaker_: which package, still java?
[10:03] <kcburyshaker_> all i want is a java plugin for firefox
[10:04] <kcburyshaker_> wait
[10:04] <kcburyshaker_> it says that source list is read only
[10:04] <kcburyshaker_> therefore i cant make changes to it correct?
[10:05] <aurel> hm, i want to install mplayer on 6.06
[10:05] <LjL> kcburyshaker_: you must edit it as root
[10:05] <LjL> kcburyshaker_: are you doing that, are you you just trying to edit it as your user?
[10:05] <kcburyshaker_> how do i get to root
[10:05] <aurel> the problem is, i don't know what rep i must add to my sourcelist
[10:06] <newbiep> kcburyshaker probably with sudo su - ?
[10:06] <newbiep> err sudo su -
[10:06] <kcburyshaker_> guys all i know is im on windows one day, ask for a free cd and boom here i am
[10:06] <will> does everyone like firefox and adept?
[10:06] <kcburyshaker_> ok  now i am root in konsole
[10:07] <will> because I can't get either to work
[10:07] <LjL> kcburyshaker_: err sorry, i pressed ctrl+q by mistake =)
[10:07] <LjL> !tell kcburyshaker_ about root
[10:07] <LjL> kcburyshaker_: don't be root
[10:07] <LjL> kcburyshaker_: just type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", that'll give you root just for editing
[10:07] <MuJ> will: nope
[10:07] <LjL> kcburyshaker_: or "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" if you prefer the KDE editor
[10:07] <_tom> i think my mixer has a faulty setting.  it is all the way up on the volume control, but i barely hear it
[10:07] <LjL> kcburyshaker_: (kdesu is the sudo for running KDE apps)
[10:07] <will> MuJ: what do you like?
[10:08] <newbiep> _tom what about your speakers? is the volume-knob on full there? ;)
[10:08] <MuJ> will: konqueror and apt-get
[10:08] <_tom> headphones
[10:08] <LjL> konqueror and aptitude
[10:08] <will> konqueror is not supported on websites I need to use
[10:08] <newbiep> oh k ..  but sometimes even headphones have a volumeknob hmm
[10:08] <Dyss> hi
[10:08] <_tom> not these...
[10:08] <newbiep> ok. just wanted to be sure :)
[10:08] <will> MuJ: such as gmail, webct, etc.
[10:09] <kcburyshaker_> ok  can someone one on one me here
[10:09] <Kr4t05> will, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox :)
[10:09] <MuJ> will: you can make it act as firefox or ie
[10:09] <kcburyshaker_> this is scrollin too fast
[10:09] <_tom> so lets all ad to it...
[10:09] <_tom> add*
[10:09] <MuJ> will: settings->configure konqueror->browser identification
[10:09] <will> Kr4t05: I've tried that with like 5 other gracious techies and my computer seems to be somekind of phenomenom
[10:09] <will> n
[10:10] <kcburyshaker_> ALL I FRICKIN WANT IS A FIREFOX PLUGIN
[10:10] <kcburyshaker_> WHY DOES IT MAKE ITR SO HARD
[10:10] <kcburyshaker_> DAMN
[10:10] <_tom> lol
[10:10] <kcburyshaker_> this is frustrating
[10:10] <_tom> yup
[10:10] <LjL> !caps
[10:10] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:10] <cpk2> will: what repositories do you have?
[10:10] <calvin> im havnig trouble with the smb:// protocol not listing shares and workgroups. it just keeps asking for a password over and over.
[10:10] <LjL> kcburyshaker_: what's scrolling too fast?
[10:10] <aurel> can anyone help me with installing mplayer?
[10:11] <cpk2> kcburyshaker_: use adept make sure you have restricted and non supported checked
[10:11] <kcburyshaker_> lil   what do i need to do to get java installed so firefox can use it
[10:11] <will> cpk2: no idea
[10:11] <cpk2> kcburyshaker_: search for java in adept
[10:11] <calvin> anyone see things like that before?
[10:11] <OOD> cpk2: won't work
[10:11] <cpk2> why woudlnt it?
[10:12] <_tom> does anyone know how to reset the sound mixer, all sound is too quiet (almost not audible at full volume adjustment)
[10:12] <kcburyshaker_> geeesus  now adept wont load
[10:12] <kcburyshaker_> wtf
[10:12] <LjL> kcburyshaker_, you need to have the multiverse repository enabled, and to install the sun-whateveritscalled package as you've been told. to enable multiverse, you need to edit sources.list as i was telling you before you started shouting, or you can probably do that with Adept as cpk2 tells you (but i can't use adept).
[10:12] <cpk2> kcburyshaker_: thats fine, do aptitdue search java
[10:12] <OOD> !multiverse
[10:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:12] <kcburyshaker_> ok
[10:13] <kcburyshaker_> im am in adept
[10:13] <MuJ> see then, be goodm, bye bye!
[10:13] <will> MuJ: it was set to be compatable with mozilla 5
[10:13] <MuJ> O_O
[10:13] <MuJ> bah.. then I don't know.. sry :(
[10:13] <MuJ> set it as something else? :P
[10:13] <MuJ> -> bar
[10:14] <MuJ> lots of hot chicks etc. have fun nerds :/
[10:14] <kcburyshaker_> what do i need to change in adept to get the multiverse enabled
[10:14] <Dyss> I have a comp with kubuntu and win xp. wen I start kubuntu nothing happens, but when I start xp the grub menu.lst gets overwritten by  the default one. anyone recognize this or know why this is?
[10:14] <OOD> !multiverse
[10:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:14] <cpk2> will you probably need to enable either multiverse or universe to get firefox via adept/apt-get
[10:15] <LjL> cpk2: firefox is in main
[10:15] <cpk2> then maybe he has main commented out?
[10:15] <OOD> why would he?
[10:15] <LjL> cpk2: i don't think so. note that right now i believe he's trying to install *java*, not firefox
[10:16] <OOD> yea he's tryin to get java working in firefox
[10:16] <cpk2> no, i think will wants firefox and kcburyshaker_wants java in firefox
[10:16] <LjL> oh, i wasn't following will
[10:17] <cpk2> and when you install ubuntu it commets out the repositories if it cant connect during the install
[10:18] <will> cpk2: how do I enable mulitverse or universe
[10:19] <kraut> hi
[10:19] <kraut> when i connect via ssh to an account and reattach an irssi-client in a screen and want to switch from one window to another with <srtg>+<left cursor> i got "3D" into the cmd but nothing else.
[10:19] <cpk2> either by going to manage repositories in the gui or editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:19] <kraut> any ideas?
[10:20] <kraut> fek@jammin:~$ cat
[10:20] <kraut> ^[[1;5D^[[1;3D
[10:20] <kraut> that's happens when i type ctl+left or alt+left
[10:20] <Dyss> Anyone know why starting windows overwrites the grub menu.lst?
[10:20] <Kevin_Jim> who can i force to install a *.deb packeg with dpkg ?
[10:21] <Dyss> -i I believe
[10:21] <LjL> Kevin_Jim: you can't. well really you can, but then next time you run apt-get or whatever, it'll be uninstalled
[10:21] <LjL> that is if it's missing dependencies
[10:21] <kcburyshaker_> ok guys  thank you for the help....but that webpage did wonders i now have java
[10:21] <kcburyshaker_> thank you
[10:22] <Kevin_Jim> bat synaptic can't fix 3 broken packeges !!!
[10:22] <Kevin_Jim> neither let me reinstall them
[10:22] <kcburyshaker_> yay
[10:22] <Kevin_Jim> is the libc6 packeg !!!
[10:23] <Kevin_Jim> Lij: what can i do ?
[10:23] <cpk2> Kevin_Jim: dpkg --config?
[10:23] <Kevin_Jim> i dit it
[10:23] <Kevin_Jim> and it's say that  it need's the tzdata
[10:23] <will> is sinaptec more user friendly
[10:23] <cpk2> apt-get -f install?
[10:23] <will> than adept?
[10:24] <Kevin_Jim> just a min
[10:24] <will> I want  a gui installer
[10:24] <will> Im not a fan of the konsole
[10:24] <will> I don';t have that good of a memory
[10:24] <will> don't really want to learn a new language either
[10:24] <will> not to mention, Ive been playing on the konsole for 5 hours now and gotten nowhere (with help)
[10:25] <will> grrrrrr
[10:25] <cpk2> using apt-get is pretty simple
[10:25] <will> but doesnt work from my experience
[10:25] <cpk2> just sudo apt-get and then install or upgrade or update
[10:25] <cpk2> and aptitude search to find a package
[10:25] <_tom> anyone know how to use the "amixer"
[10:25] <will> have done about 10 times
[10:26] <Kevin_Jim> i need to force the tzdata packeg so will install the libc6 packeg
[10:26] <will> sorry I sound frustrated.  I apreciate your help.  I just am frustrated and about to go back to windows, which Im also not happy about
[10:26] <ironfroggy> is there a way to configure credentials to store for samba shares?
[10:26] <Dyss> No one know?
[10:27] <_tom> will: what release of ubuntu?
[10:27] <cpk2> ironfroggy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:27] <will> latest version of kubuntu
[10:27] <will> tom: 6 something
[10:28] <_tom> will: 6.06
[10:28] <will> tom: ya, I think so
[10:28] <ironfroggy> cpk2: is there a way to test that a share is accessable before doing that?
[10:28] <_tom> can anyone here tell me how to unmute the damn mixer?
[10:28] <_tom> the gui tools don't work
[10:29] <Kevin_Jim> Lij: tell me plz woh can i force the tzdata packege to be installed !!!
[10:29] <cpk2> sure, have another box try to get into the share
[10:29] <will> am I having rare problems, or is linux just not there yet on the user-friendly front
[10:29] <_tom> i think i'll switch back to slackware, at least nothing was broken there...
[10:30] <cpk2> _tom: alsamixer?
[10:30] <schregger> I have a strange problem with my keyboard (AltGr) while running xgl and compiz. The AltGr key doesn't work. While running KDE or Gnome or simply the console all works well...
[10:30] <_tom> cpk2: any mixer
[10:30] <unix_infidel> Tonio_: press 'm' when you get to whatever mixer you get to.
[10:30] <unix_infidel> that will toggle mute / un-mute
[10:30] <cpk2> _tom: thats the command alsamixer
[10:30] <Tonio_> unix_infidel:  ?
[10:30] <schregger> I already tried to fix this by modifying the .Xmodmap but this didn't work
[10:30] <unix_infidel> erm _tom *
[10:31] <Tonio_> hehe okay :)
[10:31] <_tom> either alsamixer or amixer
[10:31] <schregger> Any ideas?
[10:32] <_tom> unix_infidel: yes?
[10:32] <roniez> How cani set rights on a user, so they are not able to browse outside their own home dir...
[10:32] <unix_infidel> _tom: press 'm' when you get to whatever mixer you get to.
[10:32] <unix_infidel> in alsamixer
[10:33] <_tom> unix_infidel: tryed it, no such luck... :(
[10:33] <unix_infidel> _tom: do you have any sound mixer clients running?
[10:33] <cpk2> _tom: is your sound muted or is it blocked?
[10:33] <unix_infidel> artsd, esd, jack?
[10:35] <_tom> unix_infidel: i would think so... i had to manualy tell the system to load the snd module...
[10:35] <unix_infidel> _tom: did you run alsaconf?
[10:35] <_tom> unix_infidel: i think so, can't remember now.
[10:35] <Dyss> No one?
[10:36] <unix_infidel> _tom: search the wiki for how to get sound devices working in linux.
[10:36] <unix_infidel> do it properly and it should work fine.
[10:36] <_tom> unix_infidel: 'alsaconf' command not found
[10:37] <Dyss> Well, obviously windows is the superior OS then
[10:37] <unix_infidel> _tom: like i said, you're not doing it right, search the wiki.
[10:37] <_tom> Dyss: try slackware...
[10:37] <will> will sinaptec work in kde?
[10:37] <cpk2> Dyss: i dont think anyone knows what you are talking about
[10:37] <cpk2> will: its adept now
[10:37] <gnomefreak> will: yes
[10:37] <cpk2> and yes adept works
[10:38] <gnomefreak> it will work in kde but not installed by default most people use adept in kde (does the same thing)
[10:38] <Dyss> Yay, attention.
[10:38] <Dyss> (22:14:20) Dyss: I have a comp with kubuntu and win xp. wen I start kubuntu nothing happens, but when I start xp the grub menu.lst gets overwritten by  the default one. anyone recognize this or know why this is?
[10:38] <_tom> unix_infidel: why can't the bastards that write in the wiki's do the documentation for the distro, so we don't HAVE to connect to the web (when often times THAT is the problem)
[10:39] <will> well, gatekeeper linked me to this transition from windows to linux site and they use ubuntu and sinaptec
[10:39] <gnomefreak> _tom: you have a guide in your menu
[10:39] <_tom> unix_infidel: i'm sorry, but RTFM doesn't work, when i've been through it enough to know where ALL the spelling mistakes are...
[10:39] <gnomefreak> it has most things you will find in a wiki
[10:40] <will> gnomefreak: clearly you are a fan of gnome
[10:40] <unix_infidel> if you cant get to the internet on linux you are stuck.
[10:40] <will> gnomefreak: should I be using that anyway over kubuntu
[10:40] <unix_infidel> its a learning process...learn.
[10:40] <gnomefreak> will: that depends i use all of the DE's
[10:40] <_tom> will: gnome works
[10:40] <gnomefreak> will: use what you like
[10:40] <will> gnomefreak: well since Ive done nothing but spin wheels for 8 hours Im losing faith in kde
[10:41] <schregger> ok, bye!
[10:41] <will> gnomefreak: but Im not sure gnome is going to help
[10:41] <_tom> will: kde is flashy, cutting edge, but is oftn times broken in some way, IMO
[10:41] <Kevin_Jim> Who can i force the tzdata packege to be install with dpkg ( dpkg --forve- _
[10:41] <will> tom: could that be why I can't install a web browser?
[10:41] <cpk2> _tom: download the docs
[10:42] <_tom> cp2k: 4 what
[10:42] <cpk2> you said getting to the internet can be a problem so when you are connected just get the docs
[10:42] <gnomefreak> will: i think it has alot to do with your sources.list file
[10:42] <roniez> Anybody here know how i can set up a jail on a user?
[10:42] <_tom> cp2k: i would like some human input, because people forget to write stuff down
[10:43] <_tom> cp2k: i was speaking generaly :)
[10:43] <will> gnomefreak: how hard is it to switch to ubuntu.  shoud I just start from scratch with an install cd?
[10:43] <test> hehe
[10:43] <gnomefreak> will: i would if you dont feel like fixing the issue at hand
[10:43] <will> gnomefreak: i don't seem capable of fixing the issue at hand
[10:44] <gnomefreak> will: i need to see your /etc/apt/sources.list file to see why firefox is not installable
[10:44] <will> is there anyway to do that?
[10:44] <will> gnomefreak: didn't we do that?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> will: yes what text editor do you feel comfortable using?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> will: no i havent seen it yet
[10:44] <will> open office?
[10:44] <_tom> pkgtool rulz!!!  back to slackware i go!!!
[10:45] <gnomefreak> will: not really what i was after
[10:45] <will> gnomefreak: you name, I'll TRY to do it
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> _tom: arch is more upto date than slackware
[10:45] <gnomefreak> will: type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list     and let me know whent he file opens
[10:45] <_tom> h3sp4wn: have you ever heard of K.I.S.S.?
[10:46] <_tom> Keep It Simple Stupid
[10:46] <h3sp4wn> _tom: blatently but slackware is very out of date
[10:46] <centyx> oh i was thinking of the ppl w/ the painted faces and scary tongues
[10:46] <_tom> h3sp4wn: but not broken
[10:46] <_tom> l8er
[10:47] <centyx> fun
[10:47] <cpk2> slackware is also very DIY
[10:48] <centyx> slackware is too time consuming, and messy
[10:48] <centyx> i'm glad it was the first distro i ever used, but i would never use it again
[10:48] <roniez> hm.. what package do i need to get with apt-get to be able to use commands like make?
[10:48] <roniez> and make install?
[10:48] <LjL> !b-e
[10:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:48] <roniez> cause now it cant find the command make
[10:49] <gnomefreak> roniez: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:49] <LjL> right, read that
[10:49] <roniez> Thank you
[10:49] <gnomefreak> will: did the file open?
[10:49] <will> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18300
[10:49] <centyx> gentoo's pretty nice, but you have to wait forever for everything to compile
[10:49] <h3sp4wn> I don't think any of them are that bad if you read the docs on the package manager (but I am too lazy for source)
[10:50] <gnomefreak> agreed none are that bad but depends ont he person how much they feel like working
[10:50] <OOD> will: all the repositories are disabled
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ok will good
[10:50] <OOD> that's the problem
[10:50] <will> ALL RIGHT!
[10:50] <gnomefreak> will: take the # away from every line that starts with the word deb
[10:51] <OOD> that'll enable them
[10:51] <gnomefreak> use the arrow to move down/up side/side and the backspace to remove the # let me knwo when thats done
[10:51] <centyx> i went from slackware -> debian -> gentoo -> ubuntu -> kubuntu
[10:51] <test> im not brave enough to try gentoo
[10:52] <will> gnomefreak: did it
[10:52] <gnomefreak> will: not hit ctrl+
[10:52] <gnomefreak> oops
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ctrl+O
[10:52] <gnomefreak> it will ask you in the buffer area if you want to save it to that file
[10:52] <gnomefreak> hit enter after you see that
[10:53] <gnomefreak> buffer area = just above the commands at bottom
[10:53] <gnomefreak> let me know when you get passed that
[10:54] <gnomefreak> ok lets try to say that right
[10:54] <happy> hi all, im newbie to kubuntu and got problems with X server and my KDE profile, i have just deleted my .kde profile and cannot start X server, is there any way to restore default settings ?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> will: now hit ctrl+o
[10:54] <coachJ> i have a question about my USB HD
[10:54] <will> gnomefreak: saved the source list
[10:54] <gnomefreak> will: now hit ctrl+x
[10:55] <will> gnomefreak: done
[10:55] <gnomefreak> will: now comes the easy part
[10:55] <will> gnomefreak: looking forward to it
[10:55] <gnomefreak> will: in the terminal type sudo apt-get update
[10:55] <coachJ> anyone?
[10:56] <Hawkwind> coachJ: Just ask
[10:56] <roniez> what the heck can this mean?
[10:56] <roniez> make: *** No rule to make target `mkenv.pl', needed by `install'. Stop.
[10:56] <gnomefreak> will: after that is done do the updates that are there you will see when you open adept that there are updates
[10:56] <gnomefreak> will: and firefox will be installible
[10:56] <gnomefreak>  ;)
[10:56] <coachJ> ok the device indicates its mounted, I can vreate a folder there but the folder does not stay if a power down
[10:56] <will> gnomefreak: i'm not gay, but I would hug you now if  I could
[10:57] <OOD> lol
[10:57] <slow-motion> n8
[10:58] <coachJ> asked
[10:59] <cpk2> anyone have any idea why i get random x errors when downloading things with apt-get?
[11:00] <coachJ> why wont something saved to my USB HD stay after shutdown??
[11:00] <LjL> cpk2: *x* errors?
[11:01] <will> gnomefreak: im running firefox.  thank you so much!
[11:01] <cpk2> "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or unitialized input device 154
[11:01] <cpk2>   Major opcode: 143
[11:01] <cpk2>   Minor opcode: 3
[11:01] <cpk2>   Resource id: 0x0
[11:01] <cpk2> Failed to open device
[11:01] <cpk2> "
[11:01] <gnomefreak> yw will
[11:02] <cpk2> 4 times in a row
[11:02] <gnomefreak> cpk2: use pastebin to paste please
[11:02] <will> gnomefreak: all that time wasted over some damn pound signs!
[11:02] <gnomefreak> will: yep ;) wait a while it gets easier to understand
[11:02] <roniez> make: *** No rule to make target `mkenv.pl', needed by `install'. Stop. when i try to run make install
[11:02] <roniez> i have latest perl installed.
[11:03] <OOD> yea, linux does that a lot :P
[11:03] <happy> is there anyone, who can give me advice through private chat ?
[11:03] <Woosta> Last night I had my wireless up and going .. now I don't even have the eth1 interface .. where might it have gone?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> happy: your better help if you ask in channel
[11:03] <test> happy: advice about what?
[11:03] <unix_infidel> happy: usually we ask peoplew ho have questions to ask them in the channel as others might be able to learn and use that informationl.
[11:05] <happy> oh, i see, sorry, after update i lost desktop icons, so i i have deleted my .kde profile, since this i cannot start X, whats wrong ? X server says there is some problem with keyboard, but i did nothing to X configuration :/
[11:08] <happy> is there any way to start KDE with defaults ?
[11:09] <gatekeeper> evening all
[11:09] <happy> sorry for these lamme questions, but im newbie and without GUI im lost :)
[11:09] <test> gatekeeper: hiya
[11:09] <the_hammer> dont feel so bad gate
[11:09] <gatekeeper> test: hiya
[11:09] <the_hammer> im a newbie to and feel your pain
[11:10] <the_hammer> i been working for 5 days trying to get a stupid eggdrop going and i format and re-install for the same reasons and still nothing helps
[11:10] <the_hammer> asking ppl for help is like asking for a million dollers trust me
[11:10] <happy> nobody ? is my question clear ? i hope so :)
[11:11] <fred> so i i have deleted my .kde profile, <- deleting file at random is not a good idea :)
[11:11] <the_hammer> my advice would be to reinstall what ever os ya got
[11:11] <OOD> fred: i have done it multiple times without any problem
[11:11] <the_hammer> otherwise ya be waiting for weeks or more before someone helps you
[11:11] <happy> sorry, .kde profile should be created by default with degaults
[11:11] <cpk2> the_hammer: apt-get doesnt install eggdrop?
[11:12] <fred> OOD: ah ok, so it become a good idea :)
[11:12] <test> the_hammer: yes sometimes it does take a while.
[11:12] <the_hammer> yes BUT its missing the config file
[11:12] <cpk2> the_hammer: make one?
[11:12] <cpk2> did you get eggdrop and eggdrop-data
[11:12] <the_hammer> and i have another copy of eggdrop on my desktop and all i wanna do is move it to the program folder
[11:13] <fred> happy: listen to the_hammer :)
[11:13] <OOD> fred: .kde just holds the confif files for kde, it can be safely deleted as a new one will be created when kde starts up
[11:13] <happy> hammer, thanks, maybe u r right, but i still hope that anybody can help me without reinstall
[11:13] <the_hammer> i used the sys thing to install it all
[11:13] <fred> OOD: i dunno but happy reports seems to disagree :)
[11:14] <OOD> fred: i know, it's unusual
[11:14] <fred> happy: so reinstall in a week :)
[11:14] <happy> fred: exactly :)
[11:14] <test> happy: have you tried deleting the .kde folder and restarting kde?
[11:14] <OOD> happy: can you get terminal login?
[11:14] <happy> OOD: yes
[11:14] <the_hammer> i been here on/off a week also got invited to different nets and im not any closer today then when i was when i started
[11:14] <happy> test: yes
[11:14] <test> sorry
[11:15] <test> repeated OOD. Sorry bout that.
[11:15] <gatekeeper> the_hammer: there are irc channels where people should be able to help you with eggdrop http://www.eggheads.org/support/
[11:15] <OOD> happy: try resseting your xorg.conf
[11:15] <OOD> do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:16] <the_hammer> i was told im lucky im not being banned for asking for help with eggdrops heh cuz they felt i wanna cause trouble with them BUT really how stupid is that do ppl really think id go through all the hassels of install/format to get a eggdrop working just to cause trouble?
[11:16] <test> the_hammer: I have been waiting about as long on my big question.
[11:16] <happy> OOD: ok, i will try it, but it is very strange, i repeat, i did nothing to X configuration, only deleted .kde from my profile
[11:16] <ironfroggy> on an already installed system, how can i safely resize an ntfs partition?
[11:16] <ironfroggy> i mean, if i resize the partition with qtparted, will it keep the filesystem intact?
[11:17] <RichJ> ironfroggy: you could either give qtparted a try (free), or use any of the ntfs resizing solutions (not free)
[11:17] <OOD> ironfroggy: you have to dismount -all- the partitions on the drive you're resizing
[11:17] <the_hammer> ive been to egg rooms and then they invite to other nets and when i join i gets laughed at and made fun of by all their friends
[11:17] <RichJ> yes it will stay in tact...and what OOD said
[11:17] <the_hammer> well if your a newbie and ya dunno linux then ya dont need an eggdrop
[11:17] <OOD> and the only way to do that is to boot from the live cd, or use the gparted cd
[11:17] <RichJ> so if you boot from a qtparted cd however, you don't have to worry about unmounting
[11:17] <the_hammer> F"U i say heh
[11:18] <test> hehehe
[11:18] <RichJ> the_hammer: easy with the language stuff in here
[11:18] <the_hammer> how does a newbie get experience with out trying something new?
[11:18] <RichJ> test: what is your question?
[11:18] <the_hammer> sorry rich
[11:19] <cpk2> the_hammer: try using the source?
[11:19] <test> Now the big question again: Can anyone tell me why I get egg_desktop errors after updating to the 26 kernel?
[11:19] <OOD> happy: i agree, it's strange X can't start up
[11:19] <the_hammer> the source?
[11:19] <RichJ> hmm..that is a weird one there
[11:19] <the_hammer> ya mean that sys thing?
[11:19] <test> richj: something in the updates causes this egg_desktop assertion error to happen.
[11:19] <lkukacc> hi
[11:20] <cpk2> the_hammer: have you gone to egghelp.org?
[11:20] <the_hammer> cpk2?
[11:20] <the_hammer> ya thats of no help at all
[11:20] <happy> OOD: ok, i will check it again and i will try it again
[11:20] <happy> OOD: thank you
[11:20] <the_hammer> all i need to do is somehow move a config file from desktop to the egg folder in usr
[11:21] <the_hammer> then after that the fun parts gonna be trying to configure heh
[11:21] <test> RichJ: it doesn't seem to hurt anything, but it bothers me. I mean as long as i don't update everything installs perfect, but the second i do update it happens all the time for binaries.
[11:21] <coachJ> I have a USB HD, ok the device indicates its mounted, I can create a folder there but the folder does not stay if I power down, help!
[11:21] <happy> last question, is there any IRC client or lynx in kubuntu by default ?
[11:21] <cpk2> the_hammer: thats easy... mv /hom/the_hammer/config /usr/...
[11:21] <RichJ> sorry
[11:21] <RichJ> phone call
[11:21] <cpk2> err /home/*
[11:21] <the_hammer> ok ill try that
[11:21] <test> the_hammer:konversation?
[11:21] <RichJ> test: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:21] <the_hammer> yup
[11:22] <RichJ> what does that tell you?
[11:22] <the_hammer> tells me your on the phone
[11:22] <the_hammer> lol
[11:22] <coachJ> someone help with my USB HD?
[11:23] <RichJ> coachJ: what is the problem with the USB drive?
[11:23] <test> RichJ: Just gives me a prompt
[11:23] <coachJ> he device indicates its mounted, I can create a folder there but the folder does not stay if I power down,
[11:23] <RichJ> i love when that happens
[11:23] <test> RichJ: but as i said i haven't updated yet eithere
[11:23] <RichJ> coachJ: because you have to unmount cleanly
[11:23] <RichJ> right click the icon for it, and do the safe removals
[11:23] <the_hammer> gonna try that quick cpk2
[11:23] <coachJ> ah that could be, I'll try
[11:23] <RichJ> also, you may have to be 'root' or have 'root' leve access..using sudo, or fakeroot
[11:24] <happy> is there any IRC client or lynx in kubuntu by default ?
[11:24] <OOD> Konversation
[11:24] <RichJ> coachJ: anything via usb like that, palm, usb sticks, ipod, if they don't get unmounted cleanly, whatever you put on it might not stick
[11:24] <cpk2> doesnt ubuntu install with gaim
[11:24] <happy> command line, got no GUI, only bash
[11:24] <the_hammer> oops forgot mv
[11:24] <RichJ> test: what started causing the error?
[11:24] <coachJ> im trying it out now
[11:24] <OOD> cpk2: pretty sure it does
[11:24] <cpk2> it should unmount automatically when he powers down
[11:25] <RichJ> but not clean
[11:25] <RichJ> of course when you remove power it will unmount
[11:25] <test> richj: i dont know. I am using kernel 23 and everything is fine. As soon as I do the update then i start getting the egg_desktop assertion desktop error.
[11:25] <cpk2> my external drive hasnt had a problem being unmounted on power down
[11:25] <coachJ> ok im wrong it WONT allow me th create a dir.
[11:26] <RichJ> sudo
[11:26] <OOD> happy: try irssi
[11:26] <RichJ> your drive is mounted root:root probably in /media/usbdrive or something
[11:26] <the_hammer> this truely does suck
[11:26] <cpk2> RichJ: me or coachJ?
[11:26] <test> richj: this is what I am trying to find out, Why it does that. Otherwise I might stay with kernel 23 till november
[11:27] <happy> ok, i'll see, thank you OOD
[11:27] <the_hammer> tells me missing destination
[11:27] <RichJ> coachJ
[11:27] <coachJ> sys owner my name-admin
[11:27] <cpk2> where did you try to move it to the_hammer?
[11:27] <the_hammer> usr/share/eggdrop
[11:27] <the_hammer> its in there whgere it need to be
[11:27] <RichJ> what is weird, is the egg_desktop errors usually occur when there are some bogus files left over from and install
[11:27] <RichJ> and they are usually linked in a *.desktop file somewhere
[11:28] <cpk2> its /usr/
[11:28] <coachJ> system:/media/sda1
[11:28] <coachJ> mounted as system:/media/sda1
[11:28] <the_hammer> mv: missing destination file operand after `home/oem/eggdrop.config/usr/share/eg gdrop'
[11:28] <RichJ> ya, just use sudo coachJ when you work with it
[11:28] <test> RichJ: Does that mean it isn't really something to worry about?
[11:28] <RichJ> can you boot to the desktop and what not?
[11:28] <cpk2> you need a space between .config and /usr/
[11:29] <cpk2> its home/oem/eggdrop.config /usr/share/eggdrop
[11:29] <test> RichJ: was that for me?
[11:29] <the_hammer> mv home/oem/eggdrop.config/usr/share/eggdrop
[11:29] <RichJ> yes test
[11:29] <the_hammer> thats what i put
[11:29] <RichJ> sorry
[11:29] <cpk2> mv home/oem/eggdrop.config /usr/share/eggdrop
[11:29] <cpk2> thats how it needs to be
[11:30] <test> Richj: Yes I can get the desktop fine, but some of my programs don't work. Nothing major, just kind of irritating.
[11:30] <RichJ> what programs???
[11:30] <the_hammer> why is this giving me a hard time
[11:30] <the_hammer> mv: cannot stat `home/oem/eggdrop.config': No such file or directory
[11:30] <RichJ> test: does the egg_desktop error name an application at all, or is it just generic?
[11:31] <coachJ> stupid windize just uses it, i love Kubuntu but windoze does beat it at somethings
[11:31] <cpk2> sorry its /home/
[11:31] <RichJ> mv ~/eggdrop.config /usr/share/eggdrop
[11:31] <test> Richj: It is generic. It basically says egg_desktop assertion error desktop NULL or something like that.
[11:31] <RichJ> if that odn't work, it isn't in your home directory
[11:31] <RichJ> ya
[11:31] <RichJ> there is an application with a buggered .desktop file
[11:32] <the_hammer> same error
[11:32] <RichJ> you have to read the error next time, and google it test
[11:32] <RichJ> then the file isn't there the_hammer
[11:32] <trev__> ok, i used the script from ubuntus website to add my ntfs hardrives but now they both have icons on the destop, how do i get rid of the icons?
[11:32] <the_hammer> but it is i can see it
[11:32] <test> Richj: And that one file can mess up other stuff?
[11:32] <cpk2> the_hammer: you have read write priviledge there?
[11:32] <RichJ> it can make other applications upset with the environment yes
[11:33] <the_hammer> looks like it ya
[11:33] <gatekeeper> trev__: scripts or mount points?
[11:33] <the_hammer> just group and something else dont
[11:33] <test> Richj: Thanks. Maybe I'll just keep 23 then until November when Edgy is released.
[11:33] <RichJ> im on edgy right now
[11:33] <OOD> trev_: right click on desktop->configure desktop->behaviour->Device icons->uncheck "mounted hard disk volume"
[11:33] <trev__> scripts
[11:33] <test> Richj: Is it fairly stable?
[11:34] <RichJ> Linux 3LockBox 2.6.17-5-386 #3 Mon Jul 17 23:06:09 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:34] <trev__> ok thx
[11:34] <the_hammer> wonder if im better off uninstalling the eggdrop from sudo and move the whole folder from desktop to usr/share location then
[11:34] <RichJ> it has been stable for me..but there are some annoyances
[11:34] <the_hammer> gonna give that a shot
[11:34] <cpk2> try moving it as sudo
[11:34] <test> Richj: What I mean is it stable enough to use and will all my apps work in it?
[11:35] <test> Richj: What kind of annoyances?
[11:35] <mp3guy> whenever I choose a different context broswer style in amarok, it gets really sluggish, is there a way to fix this?
[11:36] <OOD> mp3guy: you have the latest 1.4.1 version?
[11:36] <lkukacc> hmm
[11:36] <mp3guy> OOD, yes, but its happened ever since I can remember with older version
[11:36] <mp3guy> s
[11:36] <RichJ> test: it is stable enough to use...im using it on my lappy
[11:36] <RichJ> the annoyance was with adept, and the sources.list really
[11:37] <RichJ> the current sources.list was rather bare
[11:37] <the_hammer> im gonna kick my pc
[11:37] <trev__> OOD: Im sorrey but the ubuntu channel is useless and im using ubuntu not kubuntu so if you know where do i find that option in gnome?
[11:37] <test> Richj: Will my kde and gnome stuff still work in it
[11:37] <the_hammer>  mv /home/oem/eggdrop1.6.18/usr/share/eggdrop1.6.18
[11:37] <the_hammer> what am i not doing right?
[11:37] <OOD> mp3guy: don't know then
[11:37] <the_hammer> looks right to me eggdrop1.6.18 is desktop folder
[11:37] <RichJ> my kde stuff is working just fine
[11:38] <test> Richj
[11:38] <OOD> trev_: i don't use gnome, so i don't remember how
[11:38] <test> Richj: What is the advantage?
[11:38] <RichJ> you can't sudo apt-get install much as the sources.list config is empty except for edgy-security things
[11:38] <trev__> ok, thx anyway, i know what to look for now ast least
[11:38] <RichJ> no advantage, except that i am somewhat "bleeding edge"
[11:38] <the_hammer> anyone?
[11:38] <the_hammer>  mv /home/oem/eggdrop1.6.18/usr/share/eggdrop1.6.18 whats wrong here?
[11:39] <test> Richj: Okay, thanks for answering my questions.
[11:39] <lkukacc> ##linux
[11:39] <the_hammer> lol
[11:39] <cpk2> the_hammer: you know you need a space between the file being moved and the destination?
[11:39] <gatekeeper> trev__: did you get the answer you needed?
[11:40] <cpk2> the_hammer: probably wouldnt hurt to try moving as su
[11:40] <test> Richj: one more question: If I wanted to upgrade an ubuntu system to edgy, how would I do it?
[11:40] <the_hammer> hmmhow i do that then?
[11:40] <the_hammer> su  mv /home/oem/eggdrop1.6.18/usr/share/eggdrop1.6.18?
[11:41] <the_hammer> hehehe test
[11:41] <cpk2> its sudo
[11:41] <the_hammer> ok
[11:41] <cpk2> and i hope you are putting a space between the file being moved and the destination
[11:41] <OOD> it would be: sudo mv /home/oem/eggdrop1.6.18 /usr/share/eggdrop1.6.18?
[11:42] <OOD> that's if you'e moving it from /home to /usr
[11:43] <the_hammer> man this is silly
[11:43] <gatekeeper> test: my guess is that you would need to do it manually, replace the repos and: sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:43] <the_hammer> mv: target `eggdrop1.6.18' is not a directory
[11:43] <the_hammer> my butt its not i can see it on desktop heh
[11:43] <test> gatekeeper: okay thanks
[11:43] <gatekeeper> test: yw :-)
[11:43] <OOD> the_hammer: then it's in the Desktop folder in your home directory
[11:44] <the_hammer> ok im gonna rename it to eggdrop mabe that will help
[11:44] <the_hammer> ok re-named
[11:44] <the_hammer> huh
[11:44] <gatekeeper> test: don't know if update-manager will let you do it, you could try a bit of googling to see what you come up with
[11:44] <OOD> if you see it on your desktop it's in ~/home/Desktop
[11:44] <ironfroggy> why would qtparted only have readonly access to a drive?
[11:44] <the_hammer> ohh im missing the cap D huh?
[11:44] <test> Okay one more question: How does one change the icons inside applications and the unchangable ones in gnome?
[11:45] <ironfroggy> i resized one of the partitions, and now i cant make any new changes.
[11:45] <OOD> yes, it's Caps sensitive
[11:45] <gatekeeper> test: I would check the ubuntu wiki site first in any case
[11:45] <the_hammer> im confused now
[11:46] <scythe> hello all you happy ppl
[11:46] <the_hammer> mv /home/oem/eggdrop /usr/share/eggdrop
[11:46] <gambix> gambas 1.9.34 is out !
[11:46] <scythe> gotta love a system that you can chat on while upgrading!
[11:46] <OOD> the_hammer: if eggdrop is on your desktop
[11:46] <gambix> http://gambas.sf.net
[11:46] <OOD> it'll be in the Desktop directory in home
[11:46] <the_hammer> mv /Desktop/home/oem/eggdrop /usr/share/eggdrop?
[11:47] <test> sorry question was in the wrong channel. i apologize.
[11:47] <OOD> why is that oem part there?
[11:47] <cpk2> the_hammer: it might be easier for you to find the file in konquerer and then look at the file path
[11:47] <the_hammer> my name
[11:47] <OOD> it would be /home/oem/Desktop/eggdrop
[11:47] <the_hammer> when ya install ubuntu its the defult
[11:48] <the_hammer> so then this way then right?sudo mv /home/oem/Desktop/eggdrop /usr/ eggdrop
[11:48] <the_hammer> like that
[11:49] <the_hammer> god i feel so stupid
[11:49] <cristiano> hello
[11:49] <cpk2> you dont need the space after user
[11:49] <cristiano> i've got a prob with my asoundrc file
[11:49] <OOD> no it would be sudo mv /home/oem/Desktop/eggdrop /usr
[11:49] <cristiano> it looks like sounds work in firefox and other apps but system sounds (amsn, gaim and so on) seems not to work anymore
[11:50] <OOD> you're moving the eggdrop folder from /home/oem/Desktop to /usr
[11:50] <LjL> ... and i still don't see the problem with the eggdrop that's in the repos :I)
[11:50] <cristiano> here is my asoundrc file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18308 can u tell me what's wrong when i put "plug:dmix0" as my audio device in System-->audio ?
[11:50] <the_hammer> man i love u
[11:51] <the_hammer> sheesh
[11:51] <OOD> worked eh?
[11:51] <the_hammer> took me all darn day to do that
[11:51] <happy> OOD: just fixed it by moving to older xorg.conf, even my accelerated ATI config is lost :/ thank you again
[11:51] <the_hammer> now to rebuild
[11:51] <OOD> happy: so you got X to work?
[11:51] <cristiano> pls guys tell me where is the error, it's very strange everything work (even firefox) and not system sounds :(
[11:52] <happy> OOD: YES, right now writing from Konversation ...
[11:52] <the_hammer> ok heres a new qustion
[11:52] <the_hammer> how to run it from terminal
[11:52] <OOD> happy: your ati driver is still there, all you need is one command to set the xorg.conf to use it
[11:52] <OOD> !ati
[11:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:53] <mamatoshi> happy: you can build it by doing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:53] <cpk2> run eggdrop?
[11:53] <the_hammer> kinda ya but the config thing
[11:53] <cpk2> i would imagine eggdrop if its installed correctly
[11:53] <the_hammer> uh oh
[11:53] <cpk2> oh if you want to open the config file just do kate config
[11:55] <the_hammer> in terminal?
[11:55] <OOD> ya in terminal, or just double click on the file in GUI
[11:55] <the_hammer> gui
[11:55] <happy> OOD: ok, i will check it, do you mean the [Driver "fglrx"]  ?
[11:55] <the_hammer> its not exactly installed but im trying to
[11:56] <cpk2> the_hammer: you said you installed it with apt-get
[11:56] <the_hammer> well yes and no
[11:56] <the_hammer> the apt-get didnt install 100%
[11:56] <OOD> happy: yes, that should set X to use the ATi driver if it's installed
[11:56] <test> How about changing any icons inside applications or ones that seem unchangable?
[11:56] <the_hammer> so removed it and now wanna install the 1 we moved to usr
[11:57] <happy> OOD: it was really magic to get it to work, it is required to restart whole PC or only restart X server ?
[11:57] <the_hammer> now have another error
[11:57] <the_hammer> dam this thing heh
[11:57] <OOD> only X needs to be restarted
[11:57] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[11:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:58] <OOD> happy: CTRL+ALT+Backspace to quickly restart X
[11:58] <happy> OOD: yes i know, lets go :)
[11:58] <the_hammer> wont let me copy/paste from the sys instakker thingy
[11:58] <the_hammer> installer*
[11:59] <the_hammer> got 2 duplicate files says
[11:59] <the_hammer> heh
[11:59] <the_hammer> ahh well heck with them i wanna do eggdrop
[11:59] <cpk2> the_hammer: you should have left the adept install and just moved the config file into it
[12:00] <the_hammer> its hard to explain but one from app install missing tons of stuff compared to the 1 i moved from desktop
[12:02] <ironfroggy> how does qtparted decide if it should access a device in readonly mode, even if i have rw permissions on it?
[12:02] <happy> OOD: "ati" replaced by fglrx, but fglrxinfo says "Mesa glx indirect", dont know if it is ok, or not, wiki says no
[12:03] <the_hammer> now it wont let me access the commands
[12:03] <the_hammer> this wont work Type './configure' from the Eggdrop directory
[12:04] <OOD> happy: that means it's using the mesa driver, which uses inderect rendering only (which is slower)
[12:04] <test> What are emblems  and sticky used for?
[12:07] <the_hammer> aww man this is nuts
[12:08] <the_hammer> i refuse to give up tho