[12:16] <Burgwork> crimsun, there is nothing wrong with feeling good while looking at cute animals
[12:16] <crimsun> feeling good, yes. I don't feel good about them.
[12:17] <crimsun> they're obviously being treated inappropriately. :p
[01:00] <jjesse> is the dvd considered to be the live cd?
[01:01] <Burgwork> jjesse, you talking about the book?
[01:01] <jjesse> Burgwork: yeah i am
[01:01] <Burgwork> jjesse, whiprush is on it, no worries
[01:02] <jjesse> ok, got an email from deb 11:20 am this morning
[01:03] <Burgwork> jjesse, spoke with her a few hours ago
[01:03] <jjesse> cool then i will ignore
[01:04] <LaserJock> jjesse: would 19:00 work?
[01:04] <jjesse> wold for me
[01:05] <Burgwork> for what, the doc team meeting>
[01:05] <Burgwork> ?>
[01:05] <Burgwork> ?
[01:05] <Burgwork> bugger
[01:05] <LaserJock> I wonder if 21st at 19:00 would be the best
[01:05] <jjesse> yeah, anything before 22:00 is good usually
[01:05] <LaserJock> oh
[01:05] <LaserJock> then maybe 20:00 
[01:06] <LaserJock> since mdke__ said 20:00-22:00 seemed good for people
[01:48] <nixternal> hiya jjesse!!
[01:49] <jjesse> hiya nixternal
[01:49] <nixternal> well, im now a kubuntu member ;)
[01:49] <jjesse> rock and roll :)
[01:49] <crimsun> congrats
[01:49] <nixternal> hehe thanks
[01:49] <crimsun> now we can assign all kde boogs to you.
[01:49] <nixternal> hehe...no mo boogs
[01:50] <crimsun> oh you'll LOVE boogs
[01:50] <nixternal> i see enough of um...keep um til boog day
[01:50] <crimsun> that's tomorrow
[01:50] <jsgotangco> good morning
[01:50] <jjesse> good morning jsgotangco
[01:50] <nixternal> mornin' jsgotangco
[01:51] <jsgotangco> hey guys
[01:51] <LaserJock> hi jsgotangco 
[01:54] <jsgotangco> hey
[01:54] <jjesse> nixternal: do you have too much work on your plate kubuntu wise?
[01:56] <jjesse> nixternal: hmm gotta run will chat later
[01:57] <jsgotangco> 2 hours for an rsync sheesshhh
[01:57] <jsgotangco> curse you rsync scum!
[01:58] <LaserJock> lol
[01:58] <LaserJock> at least you don't have to bzr it ;-)
[01:59] <crimsun> dude rsync womps the crap out of everything else
[01:59] <jsgotangco> true
[02:01] <LaserJock> crimsun: not if I've got a goood connection at the uni
[02:02] <crimsun> LaserJock: not sure how that affects rsync's superiority
[02:02] <nixternal_> [18:54]  <jjesse> nixternal: do you have too much work on your plate kubuntu wise?
[02:02] <nixternal_> [18:57]  <nixternal> can't say that i do jjesse, so if you need something, let me know..and if i can do it, i shall ;)
[02:02] <nixternal_> [18:57]  <nixternal> also jjesse, that bug from -devel, really isn't a bug, but more of a wishlist item..i can confirm it, but added a "needs info" status
[02:02] <nixternal_> i don't know what i did, but my network didn't like it
[02:02] <nixternal> jeesh
[02:03] <LaserJock> crimsun: cause I could get a whole .iso in the time it takes to rsync from Ubuntu's server
[02:03] <crimsun> LaserJock: I don't think that's a reflection of rsync but of connectivity.
[02:03] <LaserJock> sure
[02:04] <crimsun> and for those of us on dial-up, it's a lifesaver.
[02:04] <LaserJock> but rsync can be awesome, but if the connectivity stinks it's not so much fun
[02:04] <LaserJock> for sure, I use it all the time
[02:04] <LaserJock> I just wish more people had rsync servers
[07:03] <nixternal> crimsun: http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/horses/index.html
[07:09] <jsgotangco> lol
[07:10] <nixternal> hehe
[07:11] <jsgotangco> horses inside the house hrmmm
[07:11] <nixternal> i wouldn't doubt it..i told you about that kid walking a horse at the local 4th fest here like it was a pet dog
[07:12] <jsgotangco> ive never seen such minaturized breeds...is that natural?
[07:12] <nixternal> ya
[07:12] <nixternal> they are using them as "seeing eye horses" now as well
[07:12] <crimsun> 17:56 < crimsun> my god, that's pony abuse
[07:13] <nixternal> lol
[07:13] <nixternal> and there is more pony abuse for ya
[07:14] <nixternal> who is taking over the fridge?  that as to be added ;)
[07:14] <jsgotangco> probably one of the fridge editors
[07:17] <Madpilot> *someone* needs to take of the Fridge, it hasn't been updated in almost six weeks
[07:17] <Madpilot> take over, not take of...
[07:18] <nixternal> sounds like a job for Madpilot ;)
[07:18] <Madpilot> no, I ain't volunteering :)
[07:18] <jsgotangco> bug the fridge editors for sure
[07:19] <Madpilot> I might be interested in being part of an expaned Fridge-submitters team, otoh
[07:20] <Madpilot> expanded... gah, I really can't spell tonight...
[07:26] <Plug> what needs to be fridged?  UWNs?
[07:26] <Madpilot> those, and random other stuff
[07:26] <Madpilot> very random, in the case of the URL that nixternal gave above :)
[07:27] <Plug> I wouldnt mind helping out there.
[07:28] <nixternal> well..im going to finish posting some updates and then you can have at it
[07:29] <nixternal> heh, good story...while waiting for my Ubuntu Membership to get approved by Mako, I got Kubuntu Membership..woohoo!!!
[07:29] <nixternal> btw, this UWN, Feature of the Week is gonna be 'KDE' specific for once ;)
[07:30] <nixternal> does RSI break come installed by default with Ubuntu?
[07:32] <jsgotangco> nixternal: its basically the same honestly, because kubuntu members is under ubuntu-members
[07:32] <jsgotangco> so does edubuntu-members
[07:32] <crimsun> nixternal: no.
[07:33] <nixternal> didn't think so crimsun, someone pasted to the uwn requested page with very vague info..
[07:33] <crimsun> for reference, you can check with ``apt-cache rdepends rsibreak''
[07:36] <nixternal> here i go
[07:37] <Madpilot> damn, giant netsplit - look at #u!
[07:37] <nixternal> which is odd...because i though i was connected via brown. since it is close to the house
[08:09] <nixternal> ok, i updated the UWN #7 a little more..i will get more news and such posted over the next couple of days
[08:10] <Burgundavia> nixternal: excellent
[08:10] <jsgotangco> cool
[08:10] <jsgotangco> since mgalvin has been MIA, i'll look into it tonight as well so we can send earlier 
[08:10] <jsgotangco> probably saturday/sunday
[08:10] <nixternal> i was still thinkin' of saturday..since that is the scheduled date ;)
[08:10] <jsgotangco> no worries
[08:10] <nixternal> the UWN is a Saturday to Saturday type deal..so we are good
[08:11] <nixternal> there is a spot for new edgy files for each distro...researchin' that info will be fun
[08:11] <jsgotangco> did you fill in for the kubuntu stuff?
[08:12] <Madpilot> nixternal, ping #ubuntu-devel or the dev ML
[08:12] <nixternal> i will work on the distro related stuff more this week
[08:12] <jsgotangco> cool
[08:12] <nixternal> i just hit the 'news" and the "tips of the week" right now..trying to clear out the 'community cache'
[08:13] <jsgotangco> it seems we're covered then and its only tuesday
[08:13] <nixternal> better to be ahead of schedule ;)
[08:13] <nixternal> arg..i gotta be at the uni in 6 hours
[08:13] <nixternal> thank god it is just paperwork related
[08:13] <jsgotangco> uni you still go to school?
[08:23] <nixternal> im gettin' ready to go back
[08:23] <nixternal> refresh the C++ and learn C# and .Net (mono really)
[10:13] <jsgotangco> enrico: those "basics" blog posts are awesome nice refreshers as well
[01:56] <jrib> nixternal: hey, you around?
[02:14] <nixternal> kind of
[03:00] <jjesse> morning :)
[03:08] <jjesse> nixternal: send me a ping when you are available
[03:18] <hayden> is there a downloadable version of Ubuntu Server Guide by Ubuntu Documentation Team (to buy)?
[03:22] <mdke> you can download it for free
[03:22] <mdke> hayden: see http://help.ubuntu.com and choose the PDF
[03:22] <hayden> mdke, ok thanks alot
[03:22] <mdke> if you want to buy a printed copy, see http://lulu.com/ubuntu-doc
[03:23] <hayden> ok thakns
[04:36] <nixternal> jjesse: ping!!!
[04:39] <jjesse> pong
[04:39] <jjesse> did you get my email?
[04:39] <nixternal> yes sir, i replied as well
[04:40] <jjesse> ok checking
[04:41] <jjesse> hmm didn't get it :(
[04:41] <nixternal> you should be gettin' it soon
[04:43] <jjesse> anywyas what did it say?
[04:44] <nixternal> can't remember
[04:44] <nixternal> j/k
[04:44] <nixternal> im open, i can do the knots, and i got Kubuntu Membership
[04:45] <nixternal> pretty much in that order as well
[04:46] <jjesse> awesome
[04:46] <jjesse> nixternal: did you see this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060718/
[04:46] <nixternal> woohoo
[04:47] <nixternal> good job Riddell!!!
[04:47] <nixternal> is that the release page that you referred to in your email?  but the offical one of course?
[04:48] <jjesse> kinda http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5 is what mgalvin created
[04:50] <nixternal> ahh..ok..misread the email
[04:57] <jsgotangco> is that kubuntu knot-1
[04:57] <nixternal> yes sir
[04:57] <jsgotangco> we still don't have edubuntu knot-1
[04:57] <jjesse> i don't know if it is the official flight 1
[04:57] <nixternal> tisk tisk
[04:57] <nixternal> it is a nightly
[04:57] <jjesse> or knot
[04:57] <jsgotangco> there's an issue with xorg
[04:58] <jsgotangco> in the post install
[04:58] <jsgotangco> on 18
[04:58] <jsgotangco> i dunno if there's 18.1 or something
[04:59] <jsgotangco> when you have an iso, you can just rsync from from the daily builds so you don't have to redownload again
[04:59] <jsgotangco> even from a dapper iso
[04:59] <jjesse> yup
[04:59] <jsgotangco> we have a nifty script =)
[04:59] <jjesse> rsync and then relaunch vm session
[05:00] <jsgotangco> do yo vm directly from the iso?
[05:00] <jjesse> i do
[05:00] <jsgotangco> hmm i should try that, can vmware player do that?
[05:00] <nixternal> mount -loop?
[05:00] <jsgotangco> or regular vmware
[05:00] <jjesse> vmplayer can, just change the config file to look for a .iso as the cdrom
[05:00] <jjesse> i think there is a page o nthe wiki
[05:00] <nixternal> nice
[05:00] <jsgotangco> cool
[05:04] <jjesse> mgalvin had a posting on his blog about it
[05:05] <nixternal> i always did a mount -loop on the .iso image
[05:06] <nixternal> mount -o loop -t iso9660 edgy-alternate-i386.iso /mnt/iso
[05:33] <nixternal> jjesse: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5     that is more of a "Release Information" page, with 3 links at the very bottom to the testing pages on the wiki and what not
[05:33] <nixternal> that is why i am kind of confused as to why it is called /testing
[05:41] <kgoetz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards has a section "ALSA ISA cards", which has a subcatagory "OSS drivers". should these be two seperate sections ? (i just made isa+pci seperate)
[05:44] <nixternal> i can think of a sound guru in here that would have the best answer for it...and btw, he loves ponies!!!
[05:45] <kgoetz> lol
[06:05] <nixternal> heh, to use an iso in VMware Server, after you create the actual VM portion, prior to powering up the first time...edit the settings for the cd-rom, and select iso..that easy
[06:05] <nixternal> installin' edgy now
[06:40] <jjesse> nixternal: the reason that it is in testing is because they are announcments for testing the different flights
[06:40] <nixternal> ahhh..ok
[06:40] <jjesse> nixternal: they were created on the wiki and then moved over, but i don't think the ones for kubuntu flights were
[06:40] <nixternal> hiya mdke
[06:44] <jsgotangco> hey you
[06:49] <nixternal> whats up jrib
[06:51] <jrib> nixternal: I helped a few more people today adding multiverse because it wasn't commented for them today.  Do you think the kubuntu sources would be different than the ubuntu ones?
[06:52] <nixternal> only for desktop specific items..but the sources are exactly the same i thought
[06:52] <jsgotangco> its the same
[06:53] <nixternal> heh..news about???
[06:53] <nixternal> as long as it isn't UWN
[06:53] <jrib> nixternal: do you mind pastebinning your default one?
[06:53] <nixternal> i don't have a default one...mine has more repositories then you can shake a stick at
[06:54] <jrib> hmm I must have misunderstood you yesterday then
[06:58] <jrib> alright, I'll boot up a live cd and check it out
[07:04] <dsas> I presume https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Strace and other debugging procedures do belong on w.u.c?
[07:06] <dsas> Should https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingProgramCrash be on the same wiki as Strace and Backtrace?