[12:16] crimsun, there is nothing wrong with feeling good while looking at cute animals [12:16] feeling good, yes. I don't feel good about them. [12:17] they're obviously being treated inappropriately. :p === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [i=user@69-87-139-18.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ruminator [n=garsmaz@CPE001195190463-CM000e5c6f38ce.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:00] is the dvd considered to be the live cd? [01:01] jjesse, you talking about the book? [01:01] Burgwork: yeah i am [01:01] jjesse, whiprush is on it, no worries [01:02] ok, got an email from deb 11:20 am this morning [01:03] jjesse, spoke with her a few hours ago [01:03] cool then i will ignore [01:04] jjesse: would 19:00 work? [01:04] wold for me [01:05] for what, the doc team meeting> [01:05] ?> [01:05] ? [01:05] bugger [01:05] I wonder if 21st at 19:00 would be the best [01:05] yeah, anything before 22:00 is good usually [01:05] oh [01:05] then maybe 20:00 [01:06] since mdke__ said 20:00-22:00 seemed good for people === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:48] hiya jjesse!! [01:49] hiya nixternal [01:49] well, im now a kubuntu member ;) [01:49] rock and roll :) [01:49] congrats [01:49] hehe thanks [01:49] now we can assign all kde boogs to you. [01:49] hehe...no mo boogs [01:50] oh you'll LOVE boogs [01:50] i see enough of um...keep um til boog day [01:50] that's tomorrow [01:50] good morning [01:50] good morning jsgotangco [01:50] mornin' jsgotangco [01:51] hey guys [01:51] hi jsgotangco [01:54] hey === jsgotangco rsyncs today's build [01:54] nixternal: do you have too much work on your plate kubuntu wise? [01:56] nixternal: hmm gotta run will chat later [01:57] 2 hours for an rsync sheesshhh [01:57] curse you rsync scum! [01:58] lol [01:58] at least you don't have to bzr it ;-) [01:59] dude rsync womps the crap out of everything else [01:59] true === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:01] crimsun: not if I've got a goood connection at the uni [02:02] LaserJock: not sure how that affects rsync's superiority [02:02] [18:54] nixternal: do you have too much work on your plate kubuntu wise? [02:02] [18:57] can't say that i do jjesse, so if you need something, let me know..and if i can do it, i shall ;) [02:02] [18:57] also jjesse, that bug from -devel, really isn't a bug, but more of a wishlist item..i can confirm it, but added a "needs info" status [02:02] i don't know what i did, but my network didn't like it [02:02] jeesh [02:03] crimsun: cause I could get a whole .iso in the time it takes to rsync from Ubuntu's server [02:03] LaserJock: I don't think that's a reflection of rsync but of connectivity. [02:03] sure [02:04] and for those of us on dial-up, it's a lifesaver. [02:04] but rsync can be awesome, but if the connectivity stinks it's not so much fun [02:04] for sure, I use it all the time [02:04] I just wish more people had rsync servers === mpt [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kermitX_ [n=kermit@unaffiliated/cxg] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:03] crimsun: http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/horses/index.html [07:09] lol [07:10] hehe [07:11] horses inside the house hrmmm [07:11] i wouldn't doubt it..i told you about that kid walking a horse at the local 4th fest here like it was a pet dog [07:12] ive never seen such minaturized breeds...is that natural? [07:12] ya [07:12] they are using them as "seeing eye horses" now as well [07:12] 17:56 < crimsun> my god, that's pony abuse [07:13] lol [07:13] and there is more pony abuse for ya === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:14] who is taking over the fridge? that as to be added ;) [07:14] probably one of the fridge editors [07:17] *someone* needs to take of the Fridge, it hasn't been updated in almost six weeks [07:17] take over, not take of... [07:18] sounds like a job for Madpilot ;) [07:18] no, I ain't volunteering :) [07:18] bug the fridge editors for sure [07:19] I might be interested in being part of an expaned Fridge-submitters team, otoh [07:20] expanded... gah, I really can't spell tonight... [07:26] what needs to be fridged? UWNs? [07:26] those, and random other stuff [07:26] very random, in the case of the URL that nixternal gave above :) === nixternal is working on the UWN right now as a matter of fact ;) [07:27] I wouldnt mind helping out there. [07:28] well..im going to finish posting some updates and then you can have at it === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:29] heh, good story...while waiting for my Ubuntu Membership to get approved by Mako, I got Kubuntu Membership..woohoo!!! [07:29] btw, this UWN, Feature of the Week is gonna be 'KDE' specific for once ;) [07:30] does RSI break come installed by default with Ubuntu? === Taim [n=taim@27.nwkn2.xdsl.nauticom.net] has joined #Ubuntu-Doc [07:32] nixternal: its basically the same honestly, because kubuntu members is under ubuntu-members [07:32] so does edubuntu-members [07:32] nixternal: no. [07:33] didn't think so crimsun, someone pasted to the uwn requested page with very vague info.. [07:33] for reference, you can check with ``apt-cache rdepends rsibreak'' [07:36] here i go [07:37] damn, giant netsplit - look at #u! === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke__ [n=matt@85-210-13-26.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Laser_away [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-doc === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dAndy [i=[U2FsdGV@opal.cat.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:37] which is odd...because i though i was connected via brown. since it is close to the house === dAndy [i=[U2FsdGV@opal.cat.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-52-160.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:09] ok, i updated the UWN #7 a little more..i will get more news and such posted over the next couple of days [08:10] nixternal: excellent [08:10] cool [08:10] since mgalvin has been MIA, i'll look into it tonight as well so we can send earlier [08:10] probably saturday/sunday [08:10] i was still thinkin' of saturday..since that is the scheduled date ;) [08:10] no worries [08:10] the UWN is a Saturday to Saturday type deal..so we are good [08:11] there is a spot for new edgy files for each distro...researchin' that info will be fun [08:11] did you fill in for the kubuntu stuff? [08:12] nixternal, ping #ubuntu-devel or the dev ML [08:12] i will work on the distro related stuff more this week [08:12] cool [08:12] i just hit the 'news" and the "tips of the week" right now..trying to clear out the 'community cache' [08:13] it seems we're covered then and its only tuesday [08:13] better to be ahead of schedule ;) [08:13] arg..i gotta be at the uni in 6 hours [08:13] thank god it is just paperwork related [08:13] uni you still go to school? [08:23] im gettin' ready to go back [08:23] refresh the C++ and learn C# and .Net (mono really) === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kintaro [n=ad0lf@203.177.212.164] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc === elamericano [n=kirby@69-12-172-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === elamericano [n=kirby@69-12-172-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === synchronboy [i=synchron@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === synchronboy is now known as matthewrevell === matthewrevell [i=synchron@silenceisdefeat.org] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [10:13] enrico: those "basics" blog posts are awesome nice refreshers as well === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ruminator [n=garsmaz@CPE001195190463-CM000e5c6f38ce.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jrib [n=jasonr@AC886B82.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:56] nixternal: hey, you around? === zard1989 [n=zard1989@61-225-199-113.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:14] kind of === kintaro [n=ad0lf@203.177.212.164] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:00] morning :) [03:08] nixternal: send me a ping when you are available === hayden [n=hayden@203-219-130-10.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:18] is there a downloadable version of Ubuntu Server Guide by Ubuntu Documentation Team (to buy)? [03:22] you can download it for free [03:22] hayden: see http://help.ubuntu.com and choose the PDF [03:22] mdke, ok thanks alot [03:22] if you want to buy a printed copy, see http://lulu.com/ubuntu-doc [03:23] ok thakns === hayden [n=hayden@203-219-130-10.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-83-247.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:36] jjesse: ping!!! === cosmolax [n=cosmolax@219-68-130-176.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:39] pong [04:39] did you get my email? [04:39] yes sir, i replied as well [04:40] ok checking [04:41] hmm didn't get it :( [04:41] you should be gettin' it soon [04:43] anywyas what did it say? [04:44] can't remember [04:44] j/k [04:44] im open, i can do the knots, and i got Kubuntu Membership [04:45] pretty much in that order as well [04:46] awesome [04:46] nixternal: did you see this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060718/ [04:46] woohoo [04:47] good job Riddell!!! [04:47] is that the release page that you referred to in your email? but the offical one of course? [04:48] kinda http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5 is what mgalvin created [04:50] ahh..ok..misread the email [04:57] is that kubuntu knot-1 [04:57] yes sir [04:57] we still don't have edubuntu knot-1 [04:57] i don't know if it is the official flight 1 [04:57] tisk tisk [04:57] it is a nightly [04:57] or knot [04:57] there's an issue with xorg [04:58] in the post install [04:58] on 18 [04:58] i dunno if there's 18.1 or something [04:59] when you have an iso, you can just rsync from from the daily builds so you don't have to redownload again [04:59] even from a dapper iso [04:59] yup [04:59] we have a nifty script =) [04:59] rsync and then relaunch vm session [05:00] do yo vm directly from the iso? [05:00] i do [05:00] hmm i should try that, can vmware player do that? [05:00] mount -loop? [05:00] or regular vmware [05:00] vmplayer can, just change the config file to look for a .iso as the cdrom [05:00] i think there is a page o nthe wiki [05:00] nice [05:00] cool === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:04] mgalvin had a posting on his blog about it [05:05] i always did a mount -loop on the .iso image [05:06] mount -o loop -t iso9660 edgy-alternate-i386.iso /mnt/iso [05:33] jjesse: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5 that is more of a "Release Information" page, with 3 links at the very bottom to the testing pages on the wiki and what not [05:33] that is why i am kind of confused as to why it is called /testing === kgoetz [n=ubuntu@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:41] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards has a section "ALSA ISA cards", which has a subcatagory "OSS drivers". should these be two seperate sections ? (i just made isa+pci seperate) [05:44] i can think of a sound guru in here that would have the best answer for it...and btw, he loves ponies!!! [05:45] lol [06:05] heh, to use an iso in VMware Server, after you create the actual VM portion, prior to powering up the first time...edit the settings for the cd-rom, and select iso..that easy [06:05] installin' edgy now === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:40] nixternal: the reason that it is in testing is because they are announcments for testing the different flights === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:40] ahhh..ok [06:40] nixternal: they were created on the wiki and then moved over, but i don't think the ones for kubuntu flights were [06:40] hiya mdke === jojopaderes [n=jojo@203.177.233.144] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:44] hey you === jrib pokes nixternal [06:49] whats up jrib [06:51] nixternal: I helped a few more people today adding multiverse because it wasn't commented for them today. Do you think the kubuntu sources would be different than the ubuntu ones? [06:52] only for desktop specific items..but the sources are exactly the same i thought [06:52] its the same === jsgotangco is getting pissed at the news day by day [06:53] heh..news about??? [06:53] as long as it isn't UWN [06:53] nixternal: do you mind pastebinning your default one? [06:53] i don't have a default one...mine has more repositories then you can shake a stick at [06:54] hmm I must have misunderstood you yesterday then [06:58] alright, I'll boot up a live cd and check it out === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-12-68.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:04] I presume https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Strace and other debugging procedures do belong on w.u.c? 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