[12:00] <POVaddct> seanism: irssi
[12:00] <mborohovski> hm?
[12:00] <Seveas> Shak-, yes
[12:00] <rhican> why isn't amsn in apt ?
[12:00] <smong> seanism, miranda
[12:00] <mborohovski> im installing linux first, then windows
[12:00] <Seveas> rhican, because it is
[12:00] <skavenge> irssi here as well
[12:00] <mborohovski> and im going to be using linux for the majority of my work
[12:01] <vaportrace> Anyone know which of the protected modes that debian uses on the processor?
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski: create a fat32 and let the Ubuntu install program use ann unallocated space
[12:01] <seanism> ty smong
[12:01] <rhican> why can't i find amsn? :)
[12:01] <Seveas> rhican, look for it in applications  add/remove
[12:01] <rhican> (dapper drake)
[12:01] <jrib> how can I convert and image to grayscale using imagemagick's convert?  convert -colorspace GRAY -colors 8 in out, doesn't seem to be working for me
[12:01] <jrib> s/and/an
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski: Same here except for some toys and tings I am working to port over
[12:01] <mborohovski> Jack: i'm doing it with the manual partitioning right now, how can i do it?
[12:01] <MystaMax> Can someone recommend a alternative to top or ps -aux?  Isn't there a better solution other then the ones stated????
[12:01] <rhican> Seveas, i've looked, and i've used the search function nothing there
[12:02] <skavenge> MystaMax: what are you trying to do?
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski: is there anything on your drive at the moment
[12:02] <jrib> MystaMax: system > administration > system monitor
[12:02] <rhican> nor is any "amsn" in apt-cache in search
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski:what program are you using to create these partitions
[12:02] <mborohovski> Jack: everything is backed up, so nothing that i wouldn't be willing to format
[12:02] <mborohovski> right now, just the ubuntu installer
[12:02] <Seveas> rhican, it really is there 
[12:02] <Seveas> !info amsn
[12:02] <MystaMax> skavenge, someone recommended to me a program similar to top, but it was a little easier to read
[12:02] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[12:03] <MystaMax> jrib, I'm sorry, I meant to say from the command line
[12:03] <rhican> i'll look for it again then ..
[12:03] <skavenge> MystaMax: oh dunno i use top personally didnt know there was another one
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski: Use gparted and create an NTFS of whatever size you want, a smaller fat32 and leave it at that.  I would still install XP first, but it only takes an extra step to install UB first
[12:03] <MystaMax> skavenge, I think its called htop, but I can't find it
[12:04] <POVaddct> smong: if you are just logged in, what is the output of "ls -l /proc/$$/fd/0"?
[12:04] <xordae> hey, I just installed Ubuntu 6.06, and the installer crashed at 95%.. where do I see the log that I need to upload again?
[12:04] <jrib> !info htop
[12:04] <mborohovski> Jack: why create NTFS and fat32?
[12:04] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1 (dapper), package size 42 kB, installed size 164 kB
[12:04] <b1shop> can anyone tell me why my laptop will only *occasionally* display the battery meter?
[12:04] <jrib> MystaMax: have you enabled universe repository?
[12:04] <prophet> i fallowed that ATI driver thing it worked fine..
[12:04] <b1shop> and what does "LTS" stand for in 6.06?
[12:04] <xordae> also, it killed my Grub, no way I can get back into Windoze right now... help? :(
[12:04] <jrib> b1shop: long term support
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski: You dont have to have NTFS and FAT32, just that XP really wants to see NTFS partition
[12:05] <prophet> i did that auto mount thing but it mounts them to the desktop how do i change that?
[12:05] <b1shop> jrib, how long?
[12:05] <b1shop> 5yrs like centos?
[12:05] <deb_user> can anybody tell me where I can find a list of all the available ubuntu repositories?
[12:05] <MystaMax> jrib, thanks!
[12:05] <Seveas> !lts
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> xordae:  fdisk /mbr
[12:05] <ubotu> lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:05] <b1shop> tymv
[12:05] <deb_user> I'm looking for repositories in other languages, namely spanish
[12:05] <deb_user> for dapper, btw
[12:06] <kupo> spacey: you still around?
[12:06] <smong> POVaddct, lrwx------ 1 blah /proc/5530/fd/0 -> /dev/pts/5
[12:06] <mborohovski> Jack: can't i just create three partitions: ext3 (40gigs), swap (800mb), fat32(whatever's left)
[12:06] <mborohovski> ?
[12:06] <Jack_Sparrow> prophet, you just want the icons off the desktop but the drives still mounted correct?
[12:06] <livecd64> pike_: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 && chroot /mnt/sda1
[12:06] <livecd64> chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/sda1: Operation not permitted
[12:06] <skavenge> wow htop is pretty spiff
[12:06] <definity> have any off you heard of autoscan?
[12:06] <prophet> yes off the desktop but still to mount on start yp
[12:06] <TaF> hello
[12:06] <deb_user> can anybody tell me where I can find a list of all the available ubuntu repositories?
[12:06] <POVaddct> smong: hmm, but /dev/pts/5 is a terminal
[12:06] <jrib> skavenge: colorful
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski: feel free to do it any way you want...  Im just telling you what will be the easiest and has the most chance of sucess..
[12:07] <xordae> Jack_Sparrow .. in the terminal, or are you talking about the Ms Dos fdisk? Terminal says Unable to open /mbr
[12:07] <jrib> !easysource > deb_user
[12:07] <skavenge> jrib: yeah the graphs for percentages at the top are nice
[12:07] <smong> POVaddct, ps ux shows pts/5 in the TTY column too
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> xordae: yes, dod fdisk
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> dos
[12:07] <jrib> how can I convert and image to grayscale using imagemagick's convert?  convert -colorspace GRAY -colors 8 in out, doesn't seem to be working for me
[12:07] <IraqiGeek> hi
[12:07] <mborohovski> Jack: so you're saying windows won't install on a fat32 partition?
[12:07] <POVaddct> smong: but "tty" says "not a tty"?
[12:07] <deb_user> thanks jrib
[12:07] <smong> POVaddct, yeah thats right
[12:07] <xordae> right.. i gotta find me a bootable cd somewhere.. not sure if I can even get this CD out right now.. I tried on different occasions.. meh :)
[12:08] <IraqiGeek> im having problems with ACPI under xubuntu 6.06
[12:08] <cparker> nubuntu: When I type 'mount', I do not see the SMB share that is causing my problem.
[12:08] <Trazz> how do you enable sshd server and ftp server on ubuntu?
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski: No I didnt say that.
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib:  try digikam
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> prophet, you just want the icons off the desktop but the drives still mounted correct?
[12:09] <prophet> yes
[12:09] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, I'll take a look.  I was trying to understand the syntax for convert though
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> Can anyone recommend a good file sharing/peer2peer app?? (not LimeWire or FrostWire)
[12:09] <xordae> I think i"ll just use the Grub fixer off the Mepis CD..
[12:09] <dash`> anybody know of a good batch mp3 tagger?
[12:10] <Shak-> is there an ubuntu release for the IEEE80211 subsystem?
[12:10] <jrib> !icons > prophet
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> prophet: term   gconf-editor
[12:10] <mumbles-laptop> ok - i have installed ubuntu desktop and yet i still dont have an x
[12:10] <pike_> Paddy_EIRE: amule?
[12:10] <Trazz> how do you enable sshd server and ftp server on ubuntu?
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> browse to apps/nautilus/desktop uncheck volumes_visable
[12:10] <jrib> !ssh > Trazz
[12:10] <prophet> thank you fellas
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE>  <pike_>is it safe
[12:10] <jrib> !ftp > Trazz
[12:10] <b1shop> anyone happen to use evolution with exchange connector?
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:11] <Trazz> jrib, i need to enable the sshd and ftp server on my ubuntu box
[12:11] <mumbles-laptop> anyone happen to know how to install gnome via the command line ?
[12:11] <jrib> Trazz: ubotu sent you some info, check your private messages
[12:11] <IraqiGeek> when i boot from the liveCD, the kernel detects all the harwdare fine, and there are no ACPI problems. However, after installing xubuntu on the laptop, I get ACPI invalid checksum error. Any ideas?
[12:11] <gregg__> dash`: easytag maybe?
[12:12] <tokyoturnip> I have a question for someone familiar with pptp-linux. I find that when pptp connects it create a route of the dynamic IP that was assigned to it and trys to route through PPP0 making a loop. I can manually remove the route and create the correct route. However I tried using nodefaultroute in options.pptp, however that does not takecare of the probelm. Any suggestions. i was considering adding route info to ip-up script. (BTW I am a 
[12:12] <Dial_tone> somebody here showed me how to get cleaner output from dpkg -l once. wish i remembered
[12:12] <markit86> Trazz: sudo apt-get install sshd
[12:12] <techrush> i need a script to run everytime i boot but before x starts...where can i put it ?
[12:12] <bart3k> techrush: .xinitrc
[12:12] <jrib> markit86: the package is actuall openssh-server I believe
[12:13] <helpme> Saveas: why did you ban me, I pasted the file like you asked???!
[12:13] <jrib> helpme: he meant paste it on the pastebin website: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:13] <Trazz> jrib, i didnt get anthying
[12:13] <XiXaQ> I have to cd images in mds/mdf format. How can I mount them as cd-roms in Ubuntu?
[12:13] <XiXaQ> two.
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> IraqiGeek: If you havbe USB 2.0 enabled in bios try turning that off or set it to 1.1 for now
[12:13] <b1shop> moount -o loop
[12:13] <techrush> bart3k: where is .xinitrc ?
[12:13] <jrib> !ssh > jrib
[12:14] <pike_> Paddy_EIRE: less safe than not running it. but ive never had a problem
[12:14] <bart3k> techrush: /home/your_login/.xinitrc
[12:14] <helpme> jrib: how was I supposed to know that, sorry, but I'm a new comer here, a warning and recommendation first would have been nice...
[12:14] <IraqiGeek> jack, no USB2, the laptop is an Acer C100 tablet pc (its a P3 based on the Intel 440MX)
[12:14] <sky123> hi...i know that when a regular user logins and tries to become root, he or she needs to use sudo and su is not allowed...but sudo is.. where is this feature in the linux file system and how is it enabled?
[12:14] <nasty_b> When running "./configure" I get this error: "./configure: line 2958: qmake: command not found" Can anyone help me out?
[12:14] <crimsun> nasty_b: what are you trying to compile?
[12:15] <nasty_b> MythTV
[12:15] <crimsun> nasty_b: apt-get build-dep mythv
[12:15] <jrib> helpme: usually you are just banned to stop the scrolling, he probably just forgot to unmute you afterwards, but you should talk with him or just forget about it and try to get help again
[12:15] <techrush> i need the script to have root access though bart3k
[12:15] <skavenge> what is this error - XIO:  fatal IO error 9 (Bad file descriptor) on X server ":0.0" after 3201 requests (3199 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[12:15] <crimsun> nasty_b: mythtv, rather
[12:15] <pike_> sky123: to disable the root password you would do passwd -l root. of course you would want sudo access setup already in /etc/sudoers
[12:15] <techrush> im trying to configure my intel 950gma video card for widescreen resolution and having a lot of trouble
[12:15] <nasty_b> what will that do?
[12:15] <jrib> Trazz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[12:16] <Trazz> thanks much.
[12:16] <crimsun> nasty_b: after that, apt-get install qmake
[12:16] <mborohovski> what's the reason i should use windows under ntfs and not fat32?
[12:16] <Trazz> which one of those ftpd is good?
[12:16] <sky123> pike_: okay...can you elaborate...as I am trying to uderstand "how" this was setup..and want to propogate the same fature to another linux box...as I love the security model implemented in ubuntu
[12:16] <crimsun> nasty_b: installs what you need to build it.
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski: FIle size limitations in fat32
[12:16] <nasty_b> ah ok, thanks alot
[12:16] <jrib> Trazz: I don't use any, but I see a lot of people recommend proftpd
[12:16] <helpme> jrib: i'll try again. I cannot get java to install, apt-get install sun-java5-jre fails. I've updates /etc/apt/sources.list with universe and re-ran apt-get update but still no joy....
[12:16] <mborohovski> Jack:hm, such as?
[12:16] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with an alsa error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18209 ?
[12:17] <jrib> helpme: you actually need multiverse, not universe
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski: Read up... I am not the local library
[12:17] <IraqiGeek> lspci and dmesg output from a fresh xubuntu install http://channels.debian.net/paste/3161, same install with i686 kernel http://channels.debian.net/paste/3165, and output when booting from the liveCD http://channels.debian.net/paste/3163
[12:17] <buzzed> can i run an app as root?
[12:17] <jrib> buzzed: yes
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> mborohovski: You already have your mind set on how you want to do this so ... go do it..
[12:17] <longodj> buzzed: sudo?
[12:17] <kupo> hey anyone familiar with installing dappar drake from the live cd
[12:17] <helpme> jrib: I uncommented four lines in that file, two for universe and the other I believe were multiverse (the ones with comments before about uncommenting)
[12:18] <nasty_b> crimsun: needs to be typed with sudo ?
[12:18] <mborohovski> Jack: no, i don't. im just trying to figure out what the best way is
[12:18] <jrib> helpme: you probably uncommented the dapper-backports multiverse.  But first, are you running dapper?
[12:18] <mborohovski> it seems like keeping files on a "bridge" partition so to speak woud be a pain in the ass
[12:18] <mborohovski> heh
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> helpme: Did you click on the add button in synaptic
[12:18] <crimsun> nasty_b: yes.
[12:18] <Paddy_EIRE> aMule seems pretty cool
[12:18] <samu2> is there a guide for fixing broken packages?
[12:18] <buzzed> sudo kate ... not working
[12:18] <skavenge> im getting this running snes9x in a terminal, any idea? - XIO:  fatal IO error 9 (Bad file descriptor) on X server ":0.0" after 3201 requests (3199 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[12:18] <|MAH|> hello
[12:19] <helpme> jrib: running 6.06 LTS download a week or two ago
[12:19] <|MAH|> any one knows which package contains gcc32 complier
[12:19] <nasty_b> I get these errors:
[12:19] <Shak-> does ubuntu come installed with ieee80211? im trying to locate ieee80211.h but I cant find it
[12:19] <|MAH|> any one knows which package contains gcc32 complier?
[12:19] <nasty_b> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:19] <nasty_b> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:19] <jrib> helpme: k, go ahead and put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , then give us the URL here
[12:19] <gregg__> skavenge: snes9x sucks, use zsnes
[12:19] <tristanmike> nasty_b: close "Synaptic"
[12:19] <skavenge> zsnes is alot worse on my machine
[12:19] <smong> POVaddct, anymore ideas?
[12:19] <nasty_b> oh ok thx
[12:19] <jrib> how can I convert an image to grayscale using imagemagick's convert?  convert -colorspace GRAY -colors 8 in out, doesn't seem to be working for me
[12:20] <pike_> sky123: the sudoers file would have comments normally to explain what to type.  the only other thing would be to disable root with passwd -l.  my solaris box is setup much the same way
[12:20] <gregg__> skavenge: really? what's wrong with it / doesn't work?
[12:20] <mborohovski> Jack: help?
[12:20] <|MAH|> any one knows which package contains gcc32 complier? I tried install gcc-3.3 gcc-4.0 g++ but none of them have gcc32
[12:20] <IraqiGeek> anyone?
[12:20] <techrush> has anyone here configured a intel 950 gam video card to run in a widescreen resolution before ?
[12:20] <POVaddct> smong: sorry, no. i just played around with a live system in qemu, trying to reproduce your error. but i can't.
[12:20] <seanism> IraqiGeek,  whats your q?
[12:20] <skavenge> gregg__: doesnt detect my usb gamepad even when i point it to it, unresponsive, never closes correctly always have to kill it
[12:20] <tristanmike> |MAH|: have you tried the "build-essential" package ?
[12:20] <seanism> techrush, is it onboard?
[12:20] <techrush> seanism: yes
[12:21] <|MAH|> yes, tristanmike
[12:21] <skavenge> gregg__: if it worked id be more than happy to use it
[12:21] <sky123> pike_ : so after 30 minutes of explaining on the centos site what i wanted..they were like use groups etc...thanks for your help...simple and clean..
[12:21] <seanism> you tried 855resolution?
[12:21] <sky123> pike_: the beauty of this..is root is protected...i like it
[12:21] <|MAH|> but after updatedb, but i still can not locate 'gcc32' file
[12:21] <nasty_b> crimsun: I get the following error when doing the first one: "E: Unable to find a source package for mythtv" and when doing the second: "E: Couldn't find package qmake"
[12:21] <tokyoturnip> Maybe I will start with some simplier questions. Are there any keyboard short cuts to bring down the Applications menu (like a windows key)? With each kernal update the grub menu gets bigger and bigger any guides on how to edit the menu and get rid of older unused kernals?
[12:21] <helpme> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18241
[12:21] <gregg__> skavenge: well, everything works perfectly for me with zsnes, even my PSX pad adapter
[12:21] <techrush> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver#head-6fcd801a3621b9769f7bf9f48fa4e3ad6e256654 i tried following that wiki but its not working i get an error on the last thing to do before rebooting
[12:21] <Ayabara> gatekeeper: no bad blocks on any of my partitions
[12:21] <seanism> techrush, have you tried 855resolution?
[12:21] <crimsun> nasty_b: do you have deb-src lines active?
[12:21] <tokyoturnip> As well as delete the unneeded kernal files.
[12:21] <techrush> seanism: im using 915resolution....or trying too
[12:22] <nasty_b> I dont know....
[12:22] <POVaddct> smong: the tty command here only returns "not a tty" if fd 0 is connected to a socket or pipe
[12:22] <crimsun> nasty_b: then you don't.
[12:22] <techrush>  "update-rc.d 915resolution start 99 defaults"
[12:22] <smong> POVaddct, i read on google groups a certain version of libc has an error with the gettty() function or some such, although that was posted 5 years ago and the version of libc on the server looks fine
[12:22] <techrush> that command doesnt work
[12:22] <seanism> http://perso.orange.fr/apoirier/ works with 915 aswell
[12:22] <IraqiGeek> seanism, when i boot from xubuntu 6.06 liveCD, the hardware of my Acer C100 tablet is detected without issues, but after installing it and booting from the hdd, I get an ACPI checksum error and xubuntu doesnt detect the orinoco wifi card
[12:22] <gregg__> skavenge: maybe the problem is somewhere else, i.e. with your X config
[12:22] <techrush> and its in the wiki
[12:22] <crimsun> nasty_b: enable them using Synaptic
[12:22] <nasty_b> k
[12:22] <Shak-> if i've got a program in my home dir that I usually run with ./program, how would I run it as root?
[12:22] <seanism> wierd
[12:22] <techrush> seanism that what ive been doing but its not working
[12:22] <crimsun> Shak-: sudo ./program
[12:22] <jrib> helpme: ok, try this without the quotes, 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list', and then add " multiverse" to the end of lines 19,20, 34, and 35
[12:22] <seanism> IraqiGeek, you do all updates?
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Time to make myself something for lunch
[12:23] <seanism> techrush,  what part isnt working?
[12:23] <crimsun> jrib: command to pass to gksudo needs to be quoted.
[12:23] <seanism> did you restart x?
[12:23] <Shak-> crimsun: wait, its a program I run like this: . program
[12:23] <harisund> I am curious to know, is it Bugzilla that Ubuntu uses for its bug tracking at Launchpad? Or is it something else?
[12:23] <mumbles-laptop> ok how the hell do i install ubunt u desktop via aptitude ?
[12:23] <Shak-> sudo . program doesn't work
[12:23] <IraqiGeek> seanism, updated the system through lan using aptitude, and tried i686 kernel
[12:23] <harisund> also, what wiki does wiki.ubuntu.com use?
[12:23] <crimsun> Shak-: sudo -s then do it
[12:23] <mborohovski> guys, what are the issues with file sizes on fat32?
[12:23] <AngryElf> hey all, I have working open-sorce ATI drivers installed and fglrxinfo says I do -- I want to install the proprietary ATI ones, now i've d/led and run the config to generate the debs..do i need to dpkg -i all 5 of the debs or only a certain ones?
[12:24] <gregg__> harisund: in my understanding launchpad itself is the bugtracking system
[12:24] <techrush>  update-rc.d 915resolution start 99 defaults that command isnt working to start the script in the wiki seanism
[12:24] <IraqiGeek> lspci and dmesg output at http://channels.debian.net/paste/3161 for the fresh install, http://channels.debian.net/paste/3163 for liveCD, and http://channels.debian.net/paste/3165 for i686 kernel
[12:24] <seanism> IraqiGeek, what kernel are you using? 2.6?
[12:24] <trograin> NTP on my ubuntu Hary got messed up after a reboot. I run a webserver that didnt like that , especialy my large forum. HOW can I fix the time settings WITHOUT NTP on Ubuntu Hoary version???????
[12:24] <prophet> where do you get the codec for WMV?
[12:24] <IraqiGeek> 2.6.15-25-386 and -686
[12:24] <harisund> gregg__ oh interesting... so it is some sort of an inbuilt bug tracking system is it?
[12:24] <seanism> when you run it and restart x it changes resolution it just doesnt do it on reboot, techrush ?
[12:24] <jrib> crimsun: hmm someone told me that was "fixed" in dapper, but quoting seems like the safe thing to do
[12:24] <oz_> hi all
[12:24] <deadkarma> i was wondering before i install ubuntu if there is a way to get music onto my ipod?
[12:24] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with an alsa error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18209 ?
[12:24] <gregg__> AngryElf: you don't need to do that, ubuntu ships with the ati drivers! they are in universe/multiverse IIRC
[12:24] <jrib> !w32codecs > prophet
[12:24] <AngryElf> !tell prophet about restricted formats
[12:25] <oz_> can anyone help me activat a wireless card ? it's an ipw2200 module, but I can't load it
[12:25] <skavenge> deadkarma: a few programs, amarok, gtkpod, banshee
[12:25] <deadkarma> thanks.  where can i get them at?
[12:25] <ntc> deadkarma: ..rhythmbox..
[12:25] <amortvigil> hwo to remove a symlink
[12:25] <Shak-> this is odd, I cant compile ieee80211 subsystem :s
[12:25] <AngryElf> gregg__, in the past the ATI ones work better
[12:25] <trograin> NTP on my ubuntu Hary got messed up after a reboot. I run a webserver that didnt like that , especialy my large forum. HOW can I fix the time settings WITHOUT NTP on Ubuntu Hoary version???????
[12:25] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: well, does that card actually exist (i.e., driver for it loaded)?
[12:25] <skavenge> gregg__: is your sound in zsnes have static?
[12:25] <amortvigil> *How to remove a symlink.
[12:25] <gregg__> AngryElf: I'm talking about the proprietary ones
[12:25] <skavenge> deadkarma: they are in the ubuntu repositories
[12:25] <Shak-> is there a way to spawn an actual root shell, where I dont have to enter sudo repeatedly?
[12:25] <nasty_b> crimsun: I can't find deb-src anywhere
[12:25] <crimsun> Shak-: sudo -s
[12:25] <Shak-> oh right :)
[12:26] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: I believe so, same one as before, that had the problems, I was trying a different one, but I took it out, and I guess some config got messed up
[12:26] <celenk> after upgrading from breezy tod apper, how can I tell if it worked after reboot?
[12:26] <gregg__> AngryElf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:26] <AngryElf> gregg__, let's say i still want to install the ATI onces just for kicks.....do i need to install al 5 debs?
[12:26] <deadkarma> thank you
[12:26] <gregg__> skavenge: nope, no problems
[12:26] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: "I believe so" is much too querulous
[12:26] <crimsun> nasty_b: are you in Synaptic?
[12:26] <nasty_b> yeah
[12:26] <gregg__> AngryElf: I don't know, RTFM ;)
[12:26] <crimsun> nasty_b: now, Settings> Repositories
[12:27] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: well, the one in my computer is the hda intel one
[12:27] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: ``asoundconf list''
[12:27] <deadkarma> appreciate the help
[12:27] <helpme> jrib: you are a star! seems to be working now....
[12:27] <mumbles-laptop> right im gettign sodding irritated now
[12:27] <jrib> helpme: great
[12:27] <crimsun> nasty_b: do you see the check marks (options) for adding (Source) components?
[12:27] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: Names of available sound cards: Intel
[12:27] <h0me5k1n> wheres the best place in the filesystem to store video/music so it can be shared with all users?
[12:27] <gregg__> skavenge: an older version of zsnes had that problem, though...
[12:27] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: and that's it?
[12:28] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: yea
[12:28] <mumbles-laptop> how the fuck do i get ubuntu desktop to install without the cd?
[12:28] <javiolo> anyone uses a different file manager than nautilus ?
[12:28] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: and you've used System> Preferences> Sound> Set default card ?
[12:28] <nasty_b> yeah
[12:28] <seanism> can anyone help me install windows 3.11?
[12:28] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: yea.
[12:28] <skavenge> gregg__: its the one from the repos, just has a bit of static behind the music .. if i could fix that and the gamepad id use it
[12:28] <crimsun> nasty_b: enable them.
[12:28] <trograin> NTP on my ubuntu Hary got messed up after a reboot. I run a webserver that didnt like that , especialy my large forum. HOW can I fix the time settings WITHOUT NTP on Ubuntu Hoary version???????
[12:28] <crimsun> pianoboy3333: ``asoundconf set-default-card Intel''
[12:28] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: is there a way to restart alsa?
[12:28] <IraqiGeek> seanism, does that need any help?
[12:28] <nasty_b> crimsun: All of them?
[12:28] <h0me5k1n> seanism you need to preheat your oven first
[12:28] <helpme> jrib: I take it I should revert back to the original sources.list to be safe for future updates?
[12:28] <IraqiGeek> gosh, its been like a decade since the last time i saw it
[12:29] <yggdrasil> is there some mapping software and stuff inlinux for using a gps ?
[12:29] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: ah, all good after that last one
[12:29] <gregg__> skavenge: http://zsnes.ipherswipsite.com/ use the latest WIP, that's what I did too
[12:29] <seanism> h0me5k1n, I set it to 375 degrees
[12:29] <jrib> helpme: no, those are fine, I'll have the bot send you a link explaining them so you can decide for yourself
[12:29] <crimsun> nasty_b: the ones for dapper's main, restricted, universe, and multiverse.
[12:29] <jrib> !repos > helpme
[12:29] <skavenge> gregg__: ill take a look thanks
[12:29] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: thank you once again :)
[12:29] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone here use ex falso? or quod libet?
[12:30] <gregg__> skavenge: snes9x really sucks, no joke. :) slow, no GUI, shitty configuration
[12:30] <prophet> after you do ./configure and it reconfigures what do you need to type in to install the files
[12:30] <trograin> NTP on my ubuntu Hary got messed up after a reboot. I run a webserver that didnt like that , especialy my large forum. HOW can I fix the time settings WITHOUT NTP on Ubuntu Hoary version???????
[12:30] <gregg__> prophet: make; sudo make install (usually)
[12:31] <skavenge> gregg__: its a headache, plus all the frontends in ubuntu are use gtk and being on kde i like to use as little of that as possible
[12:31] <nasty_b> crimsun: Sorry, but I don't see that
[12:31] <prophet> k
[12:31] <Shak-> am I meant to have a 'build' directory in /lib/modules/kernelver/? this program keeps error'ing when I try to compile because of that
[12:31] <seanism> anyone know what the red line in XCHAT signifys?
[12:31] <trograin> NTP on my ubuntu Hary got messed up after a reboot. I run a webserver that didnt like that , especialy my large forum. HOW can I fix the time settings WITHOUT NTP on Ubuntu Hoary version???????
[12:31] <rob_p> trograin:  run ntpdate
[12:31] <prophet> sudo make command not found :(
[12:31] <skavenge> seanism: where you left off if you changed windows, you can turn it off in preferences
[12:31] <skavenge> seanism: its called 'marker line' or something
[12:32] <seanism> thank you skavenge
[12:32] <crimsun> !easysorce
[12:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysorce - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:32] <crimsun> !easysource
[12:32] <skavenge> np, i hated that thing when i was using xchat ;)
[12:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:32] <crimsun> nasty_b: see above URL
[12:32] <gregg__> prophet: install build-essential
[12:32] <nasty_b> ok
[12:32] <helpme> jrib: thanks again for your assistance, bye.
[12:32] <prophet> ok brb
[12:32] <Shak-> are the ubuntu kernal source packages available?
[12:32] <jrib> helpme: np, bye
[12:32] <yggdrasil> i wonder if garmin mapsource will run in wine..
[12:32] <yggdrasil> it needs serial port
[12:33] <Trazz> jrib, any ideas on this one?
[12:33] <Trazz>  rpm -ivh VMware-server-1.0.0-28343.i386.rpm
[12:33] <Trazz> error: Failed dependencies:
[12:33] <Trazz>         /bin/sh is needed by VMware-server-1.0.0-28343.i386
[12:33] <Trazz> yet /bin/sh is in the /etc/shells
[12:33] <Trazz> and its on the system
[12:33] <jrib> !vmware
[12:33] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[12:33] <mumbles-laptop> ok i realy need help here
[12:33] <pike_> trograin: you just want to change the time? you can do sudo date -s 'Mon Jul 17 18:32:26 EDT 2006'
[12:33] <pike_> trograin: or something like that
[12:33] <mumbles-laptop> anyone around to help ?
[12:33] <mumbles-laptop> i cant get ubuntu desktop to install
[12:34] <prophet> "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ?
[12:34] <ianthepetrock> mumbles: what happens when you try to install?
[12:34] <skavenge> prophet: yes
[12:34] <prophet> and it returned a few things about cannot be installed
[12:35] <prophet> Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[12:35] <mumbles-laptop> ianthepetrock it asks for the cd
[12:35] <mumbles-laptop> wich is already in the drive
[12:35] <ianthepetrock> hmm
[12:36] <mumbles-laptop> strange this time it its actally doing it
[12:37] <tuxtux> good night
[12:37] <mumbles-laptop> mabey that cd drive is on its way out
[12:37] <prophet> :(
[12:37] <mumbles-laptop> its to hot here
[12:38] <Trazz> another thanks jrib. i havfe reading to do here.. anyways.. how does ubuntu differ from the other linux variants? any comparison sites?
[12:38] <ianthepetrock> Anyone else here have the xgl + compiz setup running?
[12:38] <ianthepetrock> So shweet :)
[12:38] <javiolo> !xgl
[12:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:39] <jrib> Trazz: I don't know any sites offhand, but some of its major strengths I'd say is that is based on debian, has a 6 month release cycle, and has good security updates
[12:39] <aeiah> yea, runs nicely too, but i cant get gcompizthemer to work properly :/
[12:39] <Guest777> yggdrasil > i have a lawrence global nav 100
[12:39] <javiolo> what does xgl ?
[12:39] <seanism> compriz messed up my power management :(
[12:40] <ianthepetrock> xgl+compiz is kinda glitchy, i crash frequenty
[12:40] <yggdrasil> guest777 ... ive jsut got some garmin was wondreing how to get it working in lin
[12:40] <Trazz> okay so its stable ? what kind of uptimes are you seeing with ubuntu boxes?>
[12:40] <javiolo> !enlightenment
[12:40] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[12:40] <Guest777> i see, have you search the repos ygg?
[12:40] <yggdrasil> yea a few things in there
[12:41] <arooni-linux> how can i make the system font and specifically the one used in firefox more readable?  would also apprecaiate advice on which typeface to use (once i know how to change it)
[12:41] <yggdrasil> but i think tring to get wine with the garmin software woudl be the best
[12:41] <Guest777> i have not, but there is a great number of programs that may work , ok... not much exp with wine here sorry :) ygg
[12:41] <prophet> this is confusing
[12:41] <Guest777> i have a right clock option but had 0 success on my first attempt with a Cambell's cookbook cd
[12:42] <Guest777> clock, click same thing :)
[12:44] <Guest777> woohoo~
[12:44] <yggdrasil> huh ?
[12:44] <synth> Can anyone explain to me why in Ubuntu, can i not mount any partition other than my root?  it keeps saying Device or resource busy.  Ive run lsof, theres nothing there that shows the devices as open
[12:44] <gmoore> so, my system got hacked today for the first time :)
[12:44] <yggdrasil> synth what cmd are you typing ?
[12:44] <gmoore> ...by the worst hackers i've ever seen
[12:44] <Guest777> just completted installing Ubuntu server from the Alternate istall cd on P4 1.6 and subsequently installed the ubuntu desktop
[12:44] <Kyral> s/hacked/cracked
[12:44] <Guest777> wroking like a charm :)
[12:44] <Kyral> please
[12:44] <synth> yggdrasil, mount -a, manually running mount, etc :)
[12:45] <synth> yggdrasil, trying to format a partition, etc :)
[12:45] <yggdrasil> lets see your cmd .. and
[12:45] <mborohovski> so i just installed ubuntu
[12:45] <mborohovski> but it never asked me for a root password
[12:45] <mborohovski> ...
[12:45] <synth> sudo mount -a returns: mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/hda1 busy
[12:45] <yggdrasil> ?? root
[12:45] <Kyral> !root
[12:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:45] <yggdrasil> dam
[12:45] <jrib> !root > mborohovski
[12:45] <ianthepetrock> There is no such thing as rot :D
[12:45] <ianthepetrock> root
[12:45] <mborohovski> right, i figured that
[12:45] <Kyral> There is root :P
[12:46] <skavenge> it works different in ubuntu, you use normal user with sudo and your user password
[12:46] <ianthepetrock> pfff shush
[12:46] <yggdrasil> synth what if you do mount
[12:46] <Kyral> In fact one of the first tricks I learned in Shell Scripting was how to make sure a script was or wasn't run as root :D
[12:46] <mborohovski> my guess is i just do a sudo passwd?
[12:46] <PORDO> anyone know of a service that will let me send an email to a fax machine?
[12:46] <Kyral> People still use Fax Machines?
[12:46] <ianthepetrock> eww
[12:46] <yggdrasil> what a fax machine ?
[12:46] <yggdrasil> whats
[12:46] <skavenge> mborohovski: root has no passwd as a security function
[12:46] <Kyral> basically a copier over phone :P
[12:47] <|MAH|> any one knows which package contains gcc32 complier? I tried install gcc-3.3 gcc-4.0 g++ but none of them have gcc32
[12:47] <yggdrasil> wow
[12:47] <synth> yggdrasil, same story if i mount directly:  sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /neo/    returns:   mount: /dev/hdd1 already mounted or /neo/ busy
[12:47] <|MAH|> any one knows which package contains gcc32 complier? I tried install gcc-3.3 gcc-4.0 g++ but none of them have gcc32
[12:47] <mborohovski> skavenge: why?
[12:47] <yggdrasil> just curious if you just type mount
[12:47] <yggdrasil> nothing else
[12:47] <btrento> could anyone help me with some ati-fglrx questions?
[12:47] <synth> lsof shows me NOTHING... every single device i have thats a disk is unuable, its like its locked
[12:47] <Jimmey> How can I check the version of a program I have installed against the versioin that's in the repos?
[12:47] <skavenge> mborohovski: hard to compromise root without a password, it uses 'sudo program' instead, and you use your user password
[12:47] <synth> now i noticed, if i load my sata_mv.ko later-on rather tan on boot i can then access the device normally, which is what makes me think that its something to do with volume mgmt or automount
[12:48] <mborohovski> skavenge: i see
[12:48] <mborohovski> so if i just did a 'sudo passwd' can i just do a 'sudo -l passwd'to disable again?
[12:48] <fraroco> hello every body I wanna know if someone know how to know pass from hotmail?
[12:48] <skavenge> mborohovski: the uboto link has info on setting up standard root though if you prefer
[12:48] <mborohovski> sudo passwd -l, rather
[12:49] <skavenge> not sure on that havent gone down that route
[12:49] <Shak-> im trying to find my kernel source package with apt-get (apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15.23) but none available?
[12:49] <yggdrasil> synth you should try to mount into /media/neo ?
[12:49] <pike_> synth: maybe disable the raid services in /etc/init.d/ i had some weird things problems on some hds with them running
[12:50] <yggdrasil> ok gents im out for the day
[12:50] <yggdrasil> bb in a while
[12:50] <mikkelm> hey guys
[12:50] <Guest777> l8r ygg
[12:50] <synth> yggdrasil,  mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/neo/ busy
[12:51] <mikkelm> How do I change the screendept of my monitor?
[12:51] <synth> pike_, i stopped mdadm, which according to init was running
[12:51] <synth> pike_, no diff though :(
[12:51] <yggdrasil> synth if you do just straight up mount it should return a list of mounted drives
[12:51] <AngryElf> gregg__, FYI, the ATI drivers are different/better/playNicerWithMythTV.  After switching to them i no longer have stuttering playback
[12:51] <yggdrasil> moutn <return>
[12:51] <yggdrasil> just curious
[12:51] <synth> ygg: i sent that to you in a message
[12:51] <Dial_tone> mikkelm, meaning?
[12:51] <synth> should i really spam this channel? :) i didnt think itd be prudent to my Q&A :D
[12:51] <mikkelm> you know ... 16bit, 24bit, 32bit
[12:51] <yggdrasil> ahh yea you got somethign screwed up for sure
[12:52] <mikkelm> I have to mess with the Xorg-settings?
[12:52] <Knorrie> is there a way to extract the audio track of a .swf flash movie to a wav or ogg file in ubuntu?
[12:52] <synth> anything other than my root i cannot mount, format, do anything. i get "Device or resource busy"
[12:52] <synth> but if i load sata_mv.ko after boot on my own, my sata drive (sda) is just fine to work with
[12:52] <synth> now that is AFU.
[12:53] <tsume> absolutely fucked up?
[12:53] <pike_> mikkelm: yep in xorg.conf there is a default depth setting
[12:53] <synth> Tsukasa, aye
[12:53] <tsume> synth: lazy tabber :)
[12:53] <fraroco> hello every body I wanna know if someone know how to know pass from hotmail?
[12:53] <fraroco> hello every body I wanna know if someone know how to know pass from hotmail?
[12:53] <fraroco> hello every body I wanna know if someone know how to know pass from hotmail?
[12:53] <mikkelm> pike_: ok, I'll see if I can find it
[12:54] <fraroco> hello every body I wanna know if someone know how to know pass from hotmail?
[12:54] <fraroco> hello every body I wanna know if someone know how to know pass from hotmail?
[12:54] <fraroco> hello every body I wanna know if someone know how to know pass from hotmail?
[12:54] <fraroco> hello every body I wanna know if someone know how to know pass from hotmail?
[12:54] <fraroco> hello every body I wanna know if someone know how to know pass from hotmail?
[12:54] <synth> fraroco, what??
[12:54] <fraroco> pls
[12:54] <hawkaloogie> fraroco, take your cracking question elsewhere
[12:54] <hawkaloogie> !ops
[12:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[12:54] <synth> fraroco, i didnt see the msg, please clarify
[12:54] <AngryElf> what is ubuntu's default sound device?
[12:54] <synth> fraroco, you insipid fucking moron
[12:54] <Jimmey> XoD
[12:54] <hawkaloogie> thank you sir
[12:54] <ianthepetrock> wow, scum of the Earth :(
[12:55] <synth> .... ? what did I do ?
[12:55] <skavenge> !language
[12:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:55] <synth> ok ok thats fine i just saw someone else curse, so i thought i had the ability
[12:55] <fatlip> AngryElf: i think i'm having the same problem
[12:55] <fatlip> i screwed with the alsa mixer settings and now i cant get the sound icon to work properly :(
[12:56] <Jimmey> How can I check the version of a program I have installed against the version of the same program that's in the repositories?
[12:56] <synth> so is there any other way for me to see if a device is in use other than lsof?
[12:56] <synth> cause something is 'owning' my hda, hdd, and sda(sata2) drives
[12:57] <rhican> it seems like i can't find a great deal of packages
[12:57] <rhican> like amsn, what could be the reason for that?
[12:58] <rhican> for example "apt-get install amsn" says it can't find it
[12:58] <skavenge> you dont have universe and multiverse repositories enabled
[12:58] <skavenge> !info amsn
[12:58] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[12:58] <skavenge> amsn is in universe
[12:59] <skavenge> !universe
[12:59] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:59] <mwe> amsn is ugly
[12:59] <mwe> gtk1 ...
[12:59] <mwe> or is it the tcl/tk rather
[12:59] <rhican> tcl/tk
[12:59] <rhican> yet it's a functional prog that works on all os's
[01:00] <mwe> right
[01:00] <devhen> what is the program/package that lets you connect to a windows computer via windows desktop connection?
[01:00] <mwe> if you're determined it's possible to compile tcl/tk with ttf support I think
[01:02] <AngryElf> if I can reboot/shutdown the computer as a normal user (reboot button, system->Quit) why do i have to 'sudo reboot' from the command line?
[01:02] <mwe> AngryElf: because the menu is working under gdm
[01:02] <mwe> AngryElf: bash is not
[01:03] <AngryElf> and gdm has root perms?
[01:03] <rhican> yes :)
[01:03] <AngryElf> fair enough :)
[01:03] <Dial_tone> this -notagprompt for id3ren doesn't seem to work
[01:03] <AngryElf> i could just add reboot to /etc/sudoers, is there another way of doing it?
[01:04] <Jimmey> visudo
[01:04] <Jimmey> !visudo
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about visudo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:04] <Jimmey> Shizz.
[01:04] <Jimmey> !sudo
[01:04] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:04] <Jimmey> There's a "visudo" command, try "man visudo"
[01:05] <mwe> AngryElf: You could add a rule with visudo, but how ofter do you reboot from the command line anyway? :)
[01:05] <AngryElf> more than i probably should
[01:06] <mwe> AngryElf: add a rule if it bothers you
[01:07] <mwe> AngryElf: sudo visudo and add 'AngryElf: LOCALHOST=NOPASSWD:/sbin/reboot' or something like that
[01:07] <Shak-> how do I find the driver version of my wlan card?
[01:08] <Shak-> anyone?
[01:09] <mwe> Shak-: isn't it using the ubuntu module for your card? that would be the version of your kernel if so
[01:13] <Shak-> mwe: well im using the ipw2200, and there seem to several versions, 1.0.0, 1.1.1 etc so im trying to find out which one ubuntu is using
[01:13] <darth_gimp> I need a way to pull frames from a video in sequence. Totem doesn't do it...
[01:13] <Phoul> guys i need a hand, Something is seriously wrong with nautilus
[01:13] <mikkelm> pike_: hey
[01:13] <Phoul> it wont start up at alll
[01:14] <mikkelm> pike_: I tried modifying xorg.conf, but it killed X
[01:14] <mwe> Shak-: I think the kernel version of ipw2200 is the latest stable version. I'm not sure what that is by now. 1.0 last time I checked, but that's a while ago
[01:14] <nasty_b> Can anyone tell me how to get lib qt-mt ?
[01:15] <darth_gimp> What package can I use to rip scenes from a video?
[01:15] <skavenge> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[01:15] <mwe> nasty_b: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[01:15] <darth_gimp> Into individual screen captures
[01:15] <Shak-> mwe: so thats what im asking I guess, where did you check?
[01:15] <mwe> nasty_b: or sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev for the development files
[01:15] <nasty_b> k thx
[01:16] <skavenge> which if your compiling you will need
[01:16] <sztanpet> omg its workin
[01:16] <bimberi> sztanpet: good, but please turn it off :)
[01:17] <mborohovski> has anyone used ubuntu on a vaio s480 or similar machine?
[01:17] <mborohovski> i'm having trouble with suspending
[01:17] <mwe> Shak-: ipw2200.sf.net I think. maybe modinfo ipw2200 can tell
[01:17] <sztanpet> bimberi i wont be spammin it dont worry
[01:17] <mwe> Shak-: I'm not using ipw2200 on my new laptop since it's another card
[01:18] <Shak-> mwe: modinfo did it :)
[01:18] <mwe> Shak-: what version is it?
[01:18] <Shak-> mwe: 1.1.1
[01:18] <mwe> ok
[01:18] <Shak-> mwe: do you know what this patch is and its used? http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/patches/ipw2200-1.1.1-rtap_iface.patch
[01:20] <mwe> Shak-: I have no idea. it seems to enable rtap whatever that is
[01:20] <mwsmedia> Hey all -- anyone have any luck with Hamachi?
[01:20] <Shak-> im wondering if I already have it.. I dont see any actual "patch code"
[01:21] <GeistDerZeit> I installed a bunch of Python packages and, all the suddently, i couldn't achieve the end of install process withou error msgs. And afterthat the same keeps happening, as Synaptic tries to configure the misinstalled python packages. The problem is that the error msg is equal to all of them and i cannot trace what package is creating all this mess. The error is: "" File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/py/test/testi
[01:21] <GeistDerZeit> ng/data/syntax_error.py", line 3
[01:21] <GeistDerZeit>     this is really not python
[01:21] <GeistDerZeit>                             ^
[01:21] <GeistDerZeit> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[01:21] <GeistDerZeit> . Do you have any sugestion to me?
[01:21] <mwe> Shak-: the patch is at the url you posted. you should copy paste it to a file, remove the ubuntu ipw2200, get ipw2200 sources apply, recompile and install the new module
[01:22] <mwsmedia> any Hamachi users?
[01:23] <Shak-> mwe: so you're saying its included in the latest version of the ipw2200 source so I dont have to patch if I just compile the new module?
[01:23] <}btorch{> hi I'm trying to install ubuntu using debootstrap but I keep getting an error saying no such script:/ usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper
[01:23] <}btorch{> and I do have the script there
[01:23] <GeistDerZeit> How can i know, which package created a directory in /usr/lib ?
[01:23] <Midnight> Anyone that uses XGL Compiz that I can have a moment of your time, I have it working only 1 glitch thats annoying and not sure if its a compiz plugin or xgl
[01:23] <andersbr> What's a quick way to figure out which repository a given package came from?
[01:24] <}btorch{> any clues ?
[01:24] <nasty_b> I get this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt .. Thing is I already do have lqt-mt, can anyone help?
[01:24] <junkY_San> !nopaste
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about nopaste - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:24] <mwe> Shak-: no
[01:24] <roostishaw> does anyone know where the gaim icon that sits in the taskbar is located, so i can edit it?
[01:24] <cyphase> does anyone know anything about UbuCon?
[01:24] <Stroganoff> Midnight, wrong question
[01:24] <GeistDerZeit> No... from which package a given directory was created upon install
[01:25] <roostishaw> !pastebin
[01:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:25] <roostishaw> :D
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone looking for a Cool FPS game check out sauerbraten (Free Linux Game)
[01:25] <Stroganoff> no Jack_Sparrow, check out warsow
[01:26] <andersbr> Geist:  Try dpkg -S /usr/lib/libname
[01:26] <byteshack2> I have a currently running Ubuntu install, and I would like to blow it off and install a new instance.  (I screwed my old one up something fierce!)
[01:26] <roostishaw> does anyone know where the gaim icon that sits in the taskbar is located, so i can edit it?
[01:26] <byteshack2> I don't have a cd burner, or cd images, can I "reinstall" from within my current install?
[01:26] <GeistDerZeit> Ok... i'll try to understand that command. Thanks!
[01:26] <roostishaw> byteshack2, ok. so whats you question?
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> strokenoff... where can I find warsow
[01:27] <roostishaw> byteshack2, oh... idk, sorry
[01:27] <Shak-> mwe: then what do you mean?
[01:27] <andersbr> roostishaw:  Not sure.  But do 'locate gaim | grep png' and go from there
[01:27] <Stroganoff> Jack_Sparrow, global search engine..
[01:27] <crogue5> will the ubuntu desktop install be able to resize a NTFS partition to allow it to install to?
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Found it
[01:28] <byteshack2> I'd just like to "install on top", my /home is on a different hdd, but the system itself is on /dev/hda
[01:28] <Stroganoff> check out nexuiz, alien arena 2006 and cube, too, Jack_Sparrow
[01:28] <mwsmedia> anyone using Hamachi?
[01:28] <byteshack2> I'm currently using a knoppix cd (that's how foobared my current Ubuntu install is, it won't even boot!)
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> sauerbraten is second gen of cube engine
[01:28] <Stroganoff> there's hamachi for linux? kewl
[01:28] <Stroganoff> ok check out eternal lands instead, Jack_Sparrow
[01:28] <mwsmedia> Yeah, Stroganoff, there is... but it's acting weird.  Or Ubuntu is.
[01:29] <jiSh> sigh ive had this torrent problem for so many weeks still..my torrents are downloading incredibly slow, no matter what client i use or how many seeds/leechers they have. im on wireless behind a router, ports are forwarded to my computer and www.canyouseeme.org says the ports are open
[01:29] <mwsmedia> Stroganoff:  maybe you'll have an idea regarding my Hamachi weirdness?
[01:29] <roostishaw> andersbr, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18245
[01:29] <roostishaw> andersbr, :D
[01:29] <china> I hava a suggest for ubuntu about .iso file
[01:29] <jiSh> so whycant i keep more than 10kb/s in my downloads! ;(
[01:29] <byteshack2> So, I can download the iso, and have it on a hdd that is not the target for the install, but I have no clue if I can run that
[01:29] <Stroganoff> i don't think so
[01:29] <jaxx> hey there...
[01:29] <Stroganoff> i would check out the hamachi forums
[01:30] <btrento> does anyone know if you can install the ati-fglrx package from breezy in dapper and if so how?
[01:30] <Mau> hi peopleim trying to use quake 2 without open GL..i installed everything, i hope. When i execute "./quake2 +set vid_ref softx" the game starts but the video are greeny and strange...audio too
[01:30] <Shak-> mwe: ohh, i have to use patch command?
[01:30] <mwsmedia> Strog:  I suspect it's more an Ubuntu thing than Hamachi.  I do have a question in with the Hamachi forum, though.
[01:30] <jaxx> just peeking in with a Ubuntu loaded iMac !
[01:30] <Guest777> help :) trying to manually configure the dns ip's in interfaces, currently it reads "auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:30] <china> is there somebody like auto mount .iso file to the cdrom?:)
[01:30] <mwsmedia> Strog:  When I try to browse one Ubuntu machine from another using Hamachi, Ubuntu thinks I'm trying to look at a Windows server..!
[01:31] <andersbr> roostishaw: Yeah, it's a lot of files.  But I just eliminated 99% of the files on your system, so it's the best I can give you.  Try something with 'icon' in it.
[01:31] <roostishaw> andersbr, ok, will do. thanks!
[01:31] <jaxx> cya all ! take care
[01:31] <mwsmedia> "Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network : 5.53.135.86."
[01:31] <jiSh> sigh ive had this torrent problem for so many weeks still..my torrents are downloading incredibly slow, no matter what client i use or how many seeds/leechers they have. im on wireless behind a router, ports are forwarded to my computer and www.canyouseeme.org says the ports are open why cant i keep more than 10kb/s down speed!
[01:31] <byteshack2> can I use deboostrap like it was done on debian systems?
[01:32] <byteshack2> I guess I don't see why not
[01:32] <tolstoy> Folks, is there any more documentation about the "old" way to package java for ubuntu?  I'm interested in getting 1.4.2. such that it works with the alternatives system.
[01:32] <Guest777> can someone tell me what i need to put in there for ip #s 254.1.5.57 and 243.43.5.57
[01:32] <hobz> hey, I have a friend who wants to boost performance on her laptop and I was wondering if the partitioning/MBR process during installation has had any serious developments since 5.06
[01:32] <roostishaw> does anyone know where the gaim icon that sits in the taskbar is located, so i can edit it?
[01:32] <hobz> (am at a net cafe and can't check)
[01:32] <crogue5> will the ubuntu desktop install be able to resize a NTFS partition to allow it to install to?
[01:32] <jdmpike> does anyone use apt-build to bulid packages/dependencies?
[01:32] <mborohovski> hey guys
[01:32] <mborohovski> question
[01:33] <byteshack2> roostishaw, is it currently being displayed?
[01:33] <Mau> does anyone can help me with quake2?
[01:33] <Guest777> help :) trying to manually configure the dns ip's in interfaces, currently it reads
[01:33] <Jeruvy> jish: how does your isp feel about bittorrents?  How does this compare to performance over the wlan?  Have you tried port forwarding a different port?
[01:33] <Guest777> can someone tell me what i need to put in there for ip #s 254.1.5.57 and 243.43.5.57
[01:33] <mborohovski> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable says my x config settings have been changed and i should edit it manually
[01:33] <mborohovski> how?
[01:33] <china> Is there any website for user to give suggest for ubuntu?
[01:33] <roostishaw> byteshack2, yes, but it doesn't match the color of my toolbar... so i would like to edit it
[01:33] <jiSh> Jeruvy: Yeah, i changed around the ports in case my ISP was throttling them. I used to have blazing speeds in torrents as well
[01:33] <byteshack2> roostishaw, if it is, you can probably use something like 'lsof', which will show you the files currently used
[01:34] <jdmpike> sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:34] <jiSh> with HTTP and other protocols i get blazing speeds as well
[01:34] <byteshack2> roostishaw, so, something like: lsof | grep -i gaim    might give you some clues...
[01:34] <byteshack2> roostishaw, maybe?
[01:34] <mborohovski> jdmpike: right, and?
[01:34] <jdmpike> dunno, what did it say for you to edit?
[01:34] <caplex> hi can someone show me how to run/refresh a bash command every 5 seconds? i want to run this - sudo netstat -apn -l -A inet
[01:34] <mborohovski> change the driver from nv to nvidia
[01:35] <MarcN> caplex:    man watch
[01:35] <nasty_b>  I get this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt .. Thing is I already do have lqt-mt, can anyone help?
[01:35] <mwsmedia> anyone else with Hamachi experience?
[01:35] <jdmpike> sroll down in the file until you see "nv" and change to "nvidia"
[01:35] <byteshack2> roostishaw, did that help?
[01:35] <caplex> MarcN: thanks, i'll have a look now :)
[01:35] <MarcN> caplex: watch --interval=5 "netstat -apn -l -A inet"
[01:35] <mborohovski> right, but is that all that nvidia-glx-config does?
[01:36] <caplex> MarcN: very cool 8) i'll make an aliases
[01:36] <roostishaw> byteshack2, yes, it did :). im looking through the results now
[01:36] <caplex> *alias
[01:36] <SperMite>  How can i remove apache2 and all the config files that came with it?
[01:37] <Infern0o> hi :D
[01:37] <MarcN> SperMite: apt-get --purge remove apache2
[01:37] <Infern0o> I have a quick question, how do i get to play movies in firefox?
[01:37] <wheels3572> How do you check your mem usage in Ubuntu?
[01:38] <ardchoille> !dvd > Infern0o
[01:38] <ardchoille> !restricted > Infern0o
[01:38] <Guest777> help :) trying to manually configure the dns ip's in interfaces, currently it reads auto ...
[01:38] <Guest777> can someone tell me what i need to put in there for ip #s 254.1.5.57 and 243.43.5.57
[01:38] <sysrpl> hi, how do i force my wireless adpater to release it's ip address and renew it?
[01:39] <n3rdism> Hello, everyone
[01:39] <roostishaw> byteshack2, crap. it only lists where it cached the icons...
[01:39] <roostishaw> hi
[01:39] <devhen> Guest777: put your namerservers in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:39] <devhen> like this: nameserver 1.2.3.4
[01:40] <Guest777> devhen, they are dns ip's ... i do nohave a nameserver...
[01:40] <roostishaw> Guest777, by any chance, are you using opendns?
[01:40] <n3rdism> i have a question, its kind of ubuntu related but more to do with booting my harddrive
[01:40] <Guest777> nope, a router
[01:40] <devhen> Guest777: DNS = NS !!! same thing
[01:40] <Guest777> o ok ty :)
[01:40] <Inazad> Where I can find the method of a livecd ? How this it work ?
[01:41] <c172> we're talking about dns? good...
[01:41] <c172> I have two dns servers listening on the same port... how do I know which one will be used?
[01:41] <mwsmedia> Can anyone answer a Places / Network Servers question?
[01:41] <orge> how much power does USB give out?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Inazad: What do you want to know?
[01:41] <mwe> I put my nameservers in the interfaces file and ifup takes care of resolv.conf
[01:41] <Inazad> Jack_Sparrow, I want to know how a live cd work ?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Inazad: What is your native language
[01:41] <byteshack2> wheatstraw, cat /proc/mem?
[01:41] <Inazad> Jack_Sparrow, french ;)
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Inazad: Put it in and turn it on and it creates ram disk and runs from there
[01:42] <mwe> /proc/meminfo
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[01:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:42] <jrib> mwsmedia: maybe, but you have to ask it first :)
[01:42] <byteshack2> ah, soory
[01:42] <Inazad> Jack_Sparrow, where I can find a documentation about that
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Google
[01:42] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i save an image with transparency in the gimp?
[01:42] <roostishaw> its a png
[01:42] <n3rdism> I seem to have an old boot record with lilo in it trying to tell me i have a dual of xp and slack still, does anyone know how i can get rid of this?
[01:43] <devhen> !grub > n3rdism
[01:43] <mwe> Inazad: just boot the cd on you're using the live cd :)
[01:43] <orge> how much power does USB give out?
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> if it were grub I could tell you
[01:43] <Rondo> What is a good linux program for mounting images? Sort of like Alcohol 52% for windows
[01:43] <mwsmedia> okay, jrib -- it has to do with attempting to connect with hamachi from one ubuntu box to another.  I get a dialog box that says the following:  Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: 5.53.136.214".
[01:43] <ChakRa> 20 Jigawatts
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> orge:  not much
[01:43] <DAMNJACK> how did i close X session when i'm using a console
[01:43] <ChakRa> ~__~
[01:43] <mwsmedia> jrib:  why would ubuntu think it's a windows network???
[01:43] <Inazad> mwe, yeah I know how to boot with a livecd.. I just wanna know HOW IT'S WORKING ?!
[01:43] <c172> does anyone use djbdns?
[01:43] <kalosaurusrex> Rondo: you want to mount iso images?
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> orge: Run a small fan or ?
[01:43] <orge> Jack_Sparrow: how much?
[01:43] <c172> is there something wrong with the ubuntu packages for it?
[01:43] <caplex> mwsmedia: if you are interested there are two podcasts by Steve Gibson about Hamachi - "Hamachi" Rocks! and this one mentions Hamachi too - VPNs Three: Hamachi, iPig, and OpenVPN http://www.grc.com/SecurityNow.htm
[01:43] <orge> Jack_Sparrow: charging nano
[01:44] <mwe> Inazad: well with a ramdisk like someone said
[01:44] <n3rdism> devhen: i reinstalled a fresh system, after reformatting away windows and slack
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs, I charge my nano too
[01:44] <Rondo> kalosaurusrex: not exactly iso, some mds or something
[01:44] <andersbr> Rondo: You can actually do it with the mount command.
[01:44] <mwsmedia> caplex:  are they specific to linux use?  I have it working fine on my winxp setups.
[01:44] <Inazad> mwe, yeah but you have read this somwhere
[01:44] <mwsmedia> thanks, though
[01:44] <Rondo> andersbr: O_O really!?
[01:44] <Inazad> somewhere*
[01:44] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i save an image with transparency in the gimp?
[01:44] <kalosaurusrex> Rondo: perhaps http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149963&highlight=mount+iso+image
[01:44] <andersbr> Rondo: Wait.  What type of file are you trying to mount?
[01:44] <mwe> Inazad: is it important? now you know :)
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> orge:  I also saw where a guy had adapted a battery pack
[01:44] <Rondo> andersbr: mds
[01:44] <devhen> n3rdism, see the grub links i just sent you. they will show you how to re-install grub which will fix your problem
[01:44] <Inazad> mwe, loll ok thanks
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> look up ipod hacks
[01:45] <andersbr> Rondo:  Haven't heard of it.
[01:45] <mwe> Inazad: a ramdisk is working like a hdd but in memory
[01:45] <GeistDerZeit> Save it as a figure suporting it, such as gif...
[01:45] <n3rdism> devhen: ok ill look into it, thanks!
[01:45] <Rondo> andersbr: I have a clone CD version of it
[01:45] <Inazad> mwe, ok
[01:45] <Snoops_> mds is the native format that alcohol uses andersbr
[01:45] <devhen> n3rdism, no prob. grub just needs to be re-written to the mbr to replace the old lilo that is there. good luck
[01:46] <ChakRa> Rondo : go to http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Mount_ISO_script make two files one for mount script and one for unmount
[01:46] <ChakRa> once u do that
[01:46] <wheels3572> How do I check memory usage via CLI in Ubuntu?
[01:46] <andersbr> Rondo:  mount needs to understand the filesystem it's trying to mount.  It may not work.  But if you had an iso...
[01:46] <ardchoille> wheels3572: free ?
[01:46] <ChakRa> simple go to the folder u are in and then ./script iso_file
[01:46] <byteshack2> wheels3572, and easy way is to use "top"
[01:46] <caplex> mwsmedia: i don't think they are Linux specific but i heard them awhile ago and don't remember very much about them, sorry. "Hamachi" Rocks! might be worth listening to anyway incase there are any good tips??
[01:47] <byteshack2> crap, the livecd does not come with deboostrap
[01:47] <Rondo> andersbr: or I think I should explain my problem more clearly, I have my FFT disk(PSX game) and I want to rip it and mount it because I hear it is bad for your comp's cd drive to always use it. But Alcohol 120% only had mds and clone CD, is there another program that I could use to rip it into an iso?
[01:47] <mwsmedia> caplex:  sure enough.  thanks!
[01:47] <wheels3572> Arch:  if that is all I can get then yes but I would like to see hwo much is used
[01:47] <n3rdism> "super grub disk" lol this should do the trick; thanks devhen! :D
[01:47] <Snoops_> Rondo basically don't beliee linux has native support for mounting that file system - there is mdf2iso which will convert it to iso for you, and iso just happens to be a format which linux does natively understand and is able to mount
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Rondo:  Windows or Linux program
[01:47] <caplex> mwsmedia: :)
[01:47] <ardchoille> Is there a command I can use to tell the system to not add the router IP to resolv.conf?
[01:47] <Rondo> Jack_Sparrow: I don't care >_<, either
[01:48] <wheels3572> byteshack2:  what is "top"?
[01:48] <roostishaw> anyone, what file format can handle transparency?
[01:48] <Snoops_> oh actuall Rondo
[01:48] <jiSh> sigh ive had this torrent problem for so many weeks still..my torrents are downloading incredibly slow, no matter what client i use or how many seeds/leechers they have. im on wireless behind a router, ports are forwarded to my computer and www.canyouseeme.org says the ports are open why cant i keep more than 10kb/s down speed!
[01:48] <sysrpl> hi, how do i force my wireless adpater to release its ip address and renew it?
[01:48] <Snoops_> mount image.mdf /wheretomount -o loop=/dev/loop0 <- looks hopeful
[01:48] <ardchoille> roostishaw: .png can handle transparency
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Rondo:  Windows you can use isorecorder (freeware)
[01:48] <mjr> roostishaw, png (or obviously gimp's own)
[01:48] <devhen> sysrpl, disable it and re-enable it
[01:48] <roostishaw> what about gif?
[01:49] <Rondo> Jack_Sparrow: I thought it burned ISOs, does it rip them onto your computer too?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes, the new version does
[01:49] <byteshack2> "top" shows process information
[01:49] <Rondo> Jack_Sparrow: ah, thanks, I'm going to try it now
[01:49] <mjr> roostishaw, gif can only handle binary transparency and has other limitations as well
[01:49] <devhen> ardchoille: delete it from /etc/resolv.conf ;)
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:49] <ardchoille> devhen: I do that but it gets added back upon boot/reboot
[01:49] <mjr> roostishaw, recommend png for deployment, gimp's xcf for editing
[01:50] <wheels3572> byteshack2: How do I use top then?
[01:50] <devhen> ardchoille, you could write a script that removes the line from the file and then run it at boot
[01:50] <mille> Hi all, Ive been using Arch Linux for a while, since I couldnt install Ubuntu on my new computer. However tonight I finally got Ubuntu working. Then I installed a lot of packages, using automatix of course. Everything works, except azureus. I get that annoying "permission denied" message when its trying to update. How do I fix this?
[01:50] <roostishaw> mjr, the gimp says, "png cant handle layers" if i 'export' it, will it still have its transparent background?
[01:50] <n3rdism> mille: try utorrent :)
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> roos N0
[01:51] <andersbr> roostishaw: Yes, it will.
[01:51] <ardchoille> devhen: ok, I was thinking it was easier to just find out which app/script adds the router IP and tell it not to.
[01:51] <roostishaw> andersbr & mjr, thanks!
[01:51] <mjr> roostishaw, yes. Layers are why you should save working copies as xcf, among other things.
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> roos I tried that and it didnt work but I may have done it wrong
[01:52] <mille> n3rdism, I have bittornado. And transmission is nice too, and ctorrent and so on. But the thing is, I want to make azureus work. I mean, there gotta be a way to fix it, and its annoying when I cant get it to work :)
[01:52] <bruenig> mille, what is the problem with azureus
[01:52] <byteshack2> roostishaw, http://kimihia.org.nz/how/gimpalpha/
[01:52] <byteshack2> google is your friend!
[01:52] <devhen> ardchoille, check your network configuration. you might have the router ip set as your nameserver which would add it to resolv.conf. if so, replace it with your actual nameservers
[01:52] <GeistDerZeit> Flat all the layers to have the final image as it will be exported.
[01:52] <ardchoille> devhen: Thank you :)
[01:53] <mborohovski> hey guys
[01:53] <mborohovski> question
[01:53] <mille> bruenig, I get a permission denied when it wants to update. Probably because I installed it as root.
[01:53] <mborohovski> why cant i switch to terminal via ctrl-alt-f#?
[01:53] <mborohovski> it just gives me a black screen
[01:53] <bruenig> mille, i had that pretty simple fix
[01:53] <bruenig> mille, go to the directory where you installed it
[01:53] <mille> bruenig, kind to share how?
[01:54] <mille> I uninstalled it some minutes ago, w8 I am going to install it again.
[01:54] <docta_v> mborohovski: which f key did you press?
[01:54] <mborohovski> doesnt matter
[01:54] <mborohovski> anyone between 1-6
[01:54] <bruenig> if you want it to be completely fresh install make sure you delete the /home/USERNAME/.azureus directory
[01:54] <Silk_Fear> hello?
[01:54] <bruenig> it's hidden might forget it
[01:54] <andersbr> ardchoille:  If you're using DHCP, it may just be creating resolv.conf off of the information the router is sending back.
[01:54] <docta_v> mborohovski: yea i was going to say, must be 1-6
[01:54] <Silk_Fear> which chat is this
[01:54] <mille> ok, I will
[01:54] <mborohovski> yeah
[01:55] <mille> but how do I install azureus from the homepage? As normal user
[01:55] <Crescendo> How do I look up the "hdb1" address, or whatever it is, of all attached devices?
[01:55] <byteshack2> Silk_Fear, Unbuntu
[01:55] <ardchoille> andersbr: That would be my luck
[01:55] <mborohovski> this only happened after i  installed the nvidia drivers, btw
[01:55] <bruenig> mille, download the tar.gz file to /opt directory
[01:55] <Zoolie> hello
[01:55] <CyDrive> is there any program lie limewire for ubuntu?
[01:55] <Silk_Fear> kay, I am in need of desperate help, I don't know if my problem can be fixed but someone help me!
[01:55] <bruenig> or download it to the desktop and move it whatever you want
[01:55] <mille> bruenig, ok. And from there?
[01:55] <skavenge> CyDrive: limewire for linux, frostwire
[01:55] <byteshack2> !ask
[01:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> CyDrive: YEs, limewire
[01:55] <docta_v> CyDrive: ever heard of bittorrent?
[01:55] <Silk_Fear> lol.
[01:56] <bruenig> tar -xf it
[01:56] <Silk_Fear> okay.
[01:56] <CyDrive> i try to get frostwire to wor but it wont open
[01:56] <skavenge> install java
[01:56] <Zoolie> anyone knows similiar program like kopete,what know those functions like nudge and pictures instead of text etc for gnome?
[01:56] <ardchoille> Crescendo: hdb1 would be the first partition (the "1") on the second ide hard drive (the "hdb")
[01:56] <bruenig> and before you run it at all do this 'sudo chmod 777 -R /opt/azureus
[01:56] <Crescendo> I'm looking for the CDROM, particularly.
[01:56] <mborohovski> anyone have any ideas?
[01:56] <Crescendo> DIsconnected the CDROMs, replaced it with a drive that I'm doing data recovery on.
[01:56] <Silk_Fear> well, I got this linux from Value Village for $37. And I figured out that password, and it worked for a while. Then for some reason things started screwing up, and now I am not able to edit system functions, users, passwords, or download ANYTHING!
[01:56] <bruenig> mille, make sure that anytime you add plugins or do anything to it, to do that command again because the new stuff wont have all the permissions
[01:57] <Crescendo> Rebooting though.
[01:57] <docta_v> mborohovski: what happens...it goes black or just doesn't work?
[01:57] <wheels3572> Bruenig: what's the difference between 777 and 775
[01:57] <Silk_Fear> can anyone suggest a solution?
[01:57] <ardchoille> Crescendo: If it is an ide cdrom, it will likely be hdc or hdd
[01:57] <mborohovski> it goes baclk
[01:57] <mborohovski> black*
[01:57] <mille> bruenig, thanks a lot!
[01:57] <mborohovski> and i can switch back to f7 and use the graphical interface
[01:57] <bruenig> wheels, i forget what all the numbers do, I think the last number is group, so that would mean it wouldn't have write priveledges maybe
[01:57] <n3rdism> silkfear: are you logged into root? :)
[01:57] <mborohovski> but cant see a terminal interface
[01:57] <docta_v> mborohovski: did you try hitting enter after you switch?
[01:57] <byteshack2> 777 => read, write, execute for all!  775 read, write execute for user/group, read, write for world
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Silk_Fear: What Linux flavor are you using?
[01:57] <Silk_Fear> ummm.. root, meaning the root user? I'm logged into my user if that's what you mean
[01:58] <mborohovski> docta_v: yes
[01:58] <docta_v> mborohovski: you're using dapper? updated to latest kernel?
[01:58] <Silk_Fear> Ubuntu.. is that the flavor?
[01:58] <wheels3572> Thanks byteshack2 :)
[01:58] <mborohovski> docta_v: yes, and yes
[01:58] <n3rdism> silkfear: you migiht not have given your user permissions then
[01:58] <mille> bruenig, so I have to run tar -xf azureus.tar.gz-file from /opt directory?
[01:58] <mborohovski> brand new install
[01:58] <docta_v> hmm...i don't have any ideas then
[01:58] <mborohovski> just installed as of 10 minutes ago
[01:58] <bruenig> mille, yeah but you will need to sudo tar -xf
[01:58] <XiXaQ> I require assistance. My router is about to say good night. I don't know how to configure PPPoE.. I need some help with that. And the line is so unstable, it's almost impossible for me to keep up with what's happening in this channel with a minute lag.
[01:58] <mborohovski> only thing ive done since is followed the nvidia doc on installing the drivers
[01:58] <Silk_Fear> n3rdism, you'll have to explain it better.. I'm into computers, but I don't get all the small little details
[01:59] <Silk_Fear> especially linux
[01:59] <XiXaQ> Could anyone with PPPoE experience please join #help-xixaq ?
[01:59] <docta_v> mborohovski: did you run a package update after that though
[01:59] <mborohovski> no?
[01:59] <docta_v> there's a newer version of x, newer kernel, etc
[01:59] <docta_v> worth a try
[01:59] <n3rdism> silkfear: instead of changing permissions for your user, which isnt a very good idea. use sudo instead
[02:00] <Silk_Fear> what's sudo?
[02:00] <Silk_Fear> haha
[02:00] <mborohovski> so just apt-get upgrade?
[02:00] <maxL> Need help with visualboy advance.
[02:00] <ardchoille> !sudo > Silk_Fear
[02:00] <Infern0o> super user do
[02:00] <mille> bruenig, yeah. right. Seems to be something wrong with automatix repo, it works now so I will install java again and try it out.
[02:00] <maxL> SUDO = Super User Do
[02:00] <n3rdism> it makes you super saijin
[02:00] <bruenig> mille, you can install jre via apt-get
[02:00] <n3rdism> lolol
[02:00] <docta_v> mborohovski: yea that should work
[02:01] <docta_v> or just synaptic
[02:01] <maxL> Need help with visualboy advance.
[02:01] <Silk_Fear> ardchoille: okay, but I dont get it..
[02:01] <mborohovski> yeah, so get this. i just reset it back to the 'nv' drivers
[02:01] <mborohovski> rebooted
[02:01] <mborohovski> and everything is fine
[02:01] <bruenig> mille 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre'
[02:01] <mborohovski> let me try an upgrade
[02:01] <wheels3572> That's another issue I am having:  How can I tell if I Have hte latest version of JRE installed?
[02:01] <mille> bruenig, ok. Didnt know that, I havent been using Ubuntu for quite a while. Now I got it from automatix. But thanks anyway
[02:02] <caplex> could someone show me where i went wrong with these network aliases i made? i'm not sure where to put the " and/or ' - http://pastebin.be/1365/
[02:02] <n3rdism> is visualboy advance a little too off topic? or is that cool here
[02:02] <mborohovski> neither apt-get upgrade nor apt-get dist-upgrade show anything
[02:02] <docta_v> mborohovski: try apt-get update first
[02:02] <MTecknology> i guess i got disconnected
[02:02] <bruenig> mille, automatix uses apt-get when it gets it
[02:02] <MTecknology> ohm meter with needle, red(+) -> unabanded -> banded -> black(-) = needle doesn't move - - - red(+) -> banded -> unabanded -> black(-) = needle moves
[02:02] <maxL> n3rdism : I dunno where else to go
[02:02] <MTecknology> is this how it should be>
[02:02] <Silk_Fear> i'm still so confused
[02:02] <MTecknology> ??*
[02:02] <maxL> n3rdism : all the rom geeks use windows and I cant seem to get it to work.
[02:02] <n3rdism> >.<
[02:02] <n3rdism> well whats the problem?
[02:03] <mborohovski> docta_v: did that
[02:03] <maxL> n3rdism: just doesn't run.
[02:03] <mborohovski> no dice
[02:03] <roostishaw> does anyone know the location of the gaim icon that sits in the taskbar?
[02:03] <Silk_Fear> hellppp!
[02:03] <maxL> n3rdism: I click it, nothing happens.
[02:03] <maxL> n3rdism: I try runnin it in command and it gives me the cfg file
[02:03] <n3rdism> maxL: are you wine'ing it?
[02:03] <docta_v> mborohovski: dang... hmm. well i'm on an ATI card but it looks like it's video driver issue
[02:03] <Silk_Fear> I'm still confused.
[02:03] <Silk_Fear> someone help, please?!
[02:03] <maxL> n3rdism: no.
[02:03] <wheels3572> Can anyone access the bot or just the OPs of the channel?
[02:03] <jrib> roostishaw: try #gaim too
[02:03] <ardchoille> roostishaw: I would think of starting in /usr/share/icons/$CURRENT_THEME/*
[02:03] <mille> bruenig, yeah. But is java available without automatix now?
[02:04] <Kyral> Java has ALWAYS been available without AutoMatix or EasyUbuntu
[02:04] <maxL> n3rdism: I found it in synaptic, when I used to use windows I got it to work, so I know how to use it but like, it doesn't boot the windows way, why are you suggesting I get Wine and try the windows version?
[02:04] <bruenig> mille, yes, make sure you have the extra repositories enabled
[02:04] <n3rdism> maxL: to play visual boy advance you neex direct x
[02:04] <n3rdism> need*
[02:04] <bruenig> rootisshaw /usr/share/pixmaps/gaim/icons
[02:04] <maxL> n3rdism: So, I need wine?
[02:04] <n3rdism> maxl: yes or a form of it, like cedega
[02:05] <maxL> n3rdism: I don't get it then, it has a linux thing though.
[02:05] <maxL> n3rdism: I don't get it then, it has a linux port*
[02:05] <Silk_Fear> n3rdism: do you know how I can use RootSudo?
[02:05] <maxL> n3rdism: Plus it was in synaptic, wouldn
[02:05] <mille> bruenig, I added the extra repos from psychocats page after I was done with the install. The new dapper live-cd didnt work for me, so I did a server install from breezer and dist-upgraded to dapper
[02:05] <maxL> 't it run in linux by itself?
[02:05] <maxL> n3rdism: I don't even know how to install wine XD
[02:05] <n3rdism> maxl: what site did you find a linux version? ^^
[02:06] <bruenig> mille, do 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' ignore the error it is a bug
[02:06] <n3rdism> silkfear: what are you trying to do?
[02:06] <maxL> n3rdism: It was in the synaptic package manager.
[02:06] <maxL> n3rdism: Its on the visualboy advance site too.
[02:06] <ardchoille> Silk_Fear: You can use: sudo <command>    does that help?
[02:06] <wheels3572> !java > wheels3572
[02:06] <bruenig> mille, when you open that change all the places where it says breezy, to dapper and then save
[02:06] <mille> bruenig, the azureus is a tar.bz2 file?
[02:06] <n3rdism> maxl: i was just looking at emulator zone ^^;
[02:06] <gasoline> does anyone have the ess 1869 sound card?
[02:06] <Silk_Fear> n3rdism: someone told me to use RootSudo as a solution to my problems. I can't do anything on this computer like Downloads, changing system options, all that jazz. All I can do is like internet, and programs and aim and such.
[02:07] <bruenig> mille 'tar -jxvf'
[02:07] <maxL> n3rdism: what does it say?
[02:07] <Silk_Fear> ardchoille: yes, but where do I use it?
[02:07] <mille> bruenig, I did. When I installed. I made the sources point to dapper before I installed ubuntu-desktop. So I am running dapper now...
[02:07] <Infern0o> !mount
[02:07] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[02:07] <abhay> Silk_Fear, in the command line (or a terminal window)
[02:07] <mille> bruenig, thanks a lot
[02:07] <bruenig> mille, you have jre installed or not?
[02:07] <Infern0o> !automount
[02:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about automount - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:07] <gasoline> does anyone know where i can get the snd-es18xx module?
[02:07] <abhay> !sudo
[02:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:07] <ardchoille> Silk_Fear: You use sudo for any app that requires admin privs.. ex: sudo firestarter . it will ask for a password, you use your user password, not the root password.
[02:08] <maxL> !visualboyadvance
[02:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about visualboyadvance - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:08] <n3rdism> maxl: from what i can tell on vba.ngemu.com is that you can get the source code from them and compile it yourself
[02:08] <maxL> n3rdism: Say what?
[02:08] <Silk_Fear> abhay: command line? where.. I'm so confused
[02:08] <n3rdism> hehe
[02:08] <Silk_Fear> sorry
[02:08] <mille> bruenig, the questio is: can I install the file in /opt directory as normal user?
[02:08] <maxL> n3rdism: Say that again just a little more like, understandable.
[02:08] <abhay> click the link that ubotu gave you, Silk_Fear
[02:08] <ardchoille> Silk_Fear: use sudo in a terminal
[02:08] <mille> bruenig, I have jre installed
[02:08] <maxL> n3rdism: Like, i can get the code and what it myself?
[02:08] <Infern0o> maxL: He means you have to build the program first :D
[02:08] <Silk_Fear> ardchoille: okay.. let's see if I can do this, brb
[02:09] <maxL> n3rdism: WTF? How?
[02:09] <skavenge> you dont have to build it its in the repos
[02:09] <Infern0o> maxL: yeah like you said, you get the code
[02:09] <freedom2189> hey guys
[02:09] <maxL> Infern0o: I'm pretty sure I have the code.
[02:09] <freedom2189> whats the problem youre trying to figure out?
[02:09] <skavenge> you have the whole program
[02:09] <maxL> Infern0o: I got a package of it off synaptic package manager.
[02:09] <MTecknology> I finally got my SNES controller to work as a joystick using ZSNES emulator... the only problem is that when I configure the keys everything except the up/down/left/right works. How can I get this to work?
[02:09] <ardchoille> maxL: I am seeing visualboyadvance in the universe repo
[02:10] <maxL> ardchoille: ?
[02:10] <byteshack2> I guess I don't understand why Ubuntu needs Automatix
[02:10] <bruenig> mille, there is no installation really, you just get the tar.bz2 file into the /opt directory then do 'sudo tar -jxvf filename' then do 'sudo chmod 777 -R /opt/azureus' after that you just run it. You can use it as a normal user after the chmod 777.
[02:10] <skavenge> maxL: try 'man visualboyadvance' or whatever is used to run it for some help
[02:10] <Silk_Fear> ardchoille: I kinda tried.. it doesn't work
[02:10] <byteshack2> don't get me wrong, it looks supper cool, but why not just have those packages installable from the ubuntu repos?
[02:10] <freedom2189> bleh..  i suck at configuring joysticks
[02:10] <ardchoille> Silk_Fear: open a term and type:  sudo updatedb
[02:10] <freedom2189> so im no help :P
[02:11] <mille> bruenig, but I cant get it to /opt. I have it on my desktop now, but I dont have the permission to move it to /opt
[02:11] <ardchoille> Silk_Fear: That updates the slocate database and may take a few minutes, but it is an example of using sudo
[02:11] <maxL> Skavenge: Theres no manual XD;
[02:11] <Silk_Fear> ardchoille: and put in my password?
[02:11] <skavenge> byteshack2: half of them are copyrighted and not free so it would be illegal .. you use mp3, java, w32codecs etc at your own risk
[02:11] <ardchoille> Silk_Fear: yes, your user password
[02:11] <n3rdism> does anyone know a good burning prog i can burn this iso for grub with?
[02:11] <maxL> Skavenge : well there is one, but its rather useless its pretty much just copyright info.
[02:11] <bruenig> mille do 'sudo mv filename'
[02:11] <Silk_Fear> ardchoille: okay, one minute
[02:11] <skavenge> maxL: there has to be a faq on their webpage or something
[02:12] <Infern0o> maxL: ok i found and installed it from the synaptic...
[02:12] <Infern0o> maxL: after installing in console: sudo vba
[02:12] <bruenig> or i guess more correctly do 'sudo mov filename /opt'
[02:12] <Silk_Fear> ardchoille: "amalea is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[02:12] <Infern0o> maxL: have a look ;)-
[02:12] <mille> bruenig, thanks ;)
[02:12] <n3rdism> preferably x64
[02:12] <freedom2189> ardchiolle: you can use GnomeBaker
[02:12] <Silk_Fear> it didn't let me do it, ardchoille.
[02:12] <maxL> Infern0o: So I have to type sudo vba and it will work?
[02:12] <Infern0o> maxL: well the program will show info yes
[02:12] <ardchoille> Silk_Fear: Are you the one who installed Ubuntu on that computer?
[02:12] <mborohovski> anyone else have any ideas? i installed the nvidia driver, following the howto online, and now i cant switch to a terminal
[02:13] <maxL> Infern0o: But did you get anything to like run?
[02:13] <Silk_Fear> ardchoille: no, I mentioned before, I bought this from value village.. there was a previous user. But I know the password for that user. Shall I try that?
[02:13] <dxdemetriou> Is there a solution how can I install internet explorer 6 with wine? I need this for some programs but it stops to work after the 0.9.12
[02:13] <maxL> Infern0o: I'm not the system admin on this compy, although i know the pass and everything,
[02:13] <Infern0o> maxL: no, since i have no rom
[02:13] <n3rdism> does anyone know a good x64 burning tool i can burn this iso of grub with?
[02:13] <maxL> Infern0o: but is it asking for one or anyhting?
[02:13] <byteshack2> skavenge, ah! ic
[02:13] <Infern0o> MaxL: what u have to do when u want to play
[02:13] <ardchoille> Silk_Fear: I would say yes, try that user, that user may be the administrator for that box
[02:13] <Silk_Fear> okay
[02:14] <Infern0o> maxL: type sudo vba /path to rom
[02:14] <byteshack2> I didn't notice that, first one I saw was firefox, and that confused me a bit
[02:14] <maxL> OKAY
[02:14] <maxL> BRB
[02:14] <freedom2189> n3rdism: GnomeBaker will do the trick
[02:14] <X-Rob_> Technical Question - We're thinking about making a derviative distro using Ubuntu rather than CentOS - Any howto's for this? I've found http://uck.sourceforge.net but that's for a live CD, which we definately want to avoid.
[02:14] <Silk_Fear> ardchoille: it won't let me do it again
[02:14] <Silk_Fear> do I need to log onto that user?
[02:14] <n3rdism> freedom: thanks :D
[02:14] <freedom2189> np m8
[02:14] <mborohovski> get this, i can login (and confirm this via 'w' on a vterm in x)
[02:14] <mborohovski> but i cant SEE it
[02:14] <MTecknology> I finally got my SNES controller to work as a joystick using ZSNES emulator... the only problem is that when I configure the keys everything except the up/down/left/right works. How can I get this to work?
[02:15] <mborohovski> wtf
[02:15] <ardchoille> Silk_Fear: yes
[02:15] <skavenge> Silk_Fear: you need to login as that user and use the password, from there you can give your user permission
[02:15] <Cntryboy> Anyone here use xgl, and have the xwinwrap working?
[02:15] <Silk_Fear> ardchoille: okay.. I don't know if it will work, but I will see, I'll come back on this chat from that user
[02:15] <freedom2189> well guys, gotta mow the lawn before i get bitched at :P
[02:15] <freedom2189> bye all
[02:15] <ardchoille> Silk_Fear: ok
[02:16] <MTecknology> How can I see what keys are being pressed on my system??
[02:16] <MTecknology> the key Name I mean
[02:16] <byteshack2> will automatix install the latest firefox-bin from mozilla?
[02:16] <Snoops_> MTecknology xev
[02:16] <Keldon> does anyone know which XGL plugin takes care of the unfocused windows getting darker? it's not fade
[02:17] <bruenig> byteshack2, no
[02:17] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me on my Java issue?
[02:17] <maxL> Infern0o: thats not really working
[02:17] <Snoops_> Keldon that's trailfocus
[02:17] <Cntryboy> Keldon: you mean brightness/darkness?
[02:17] <sid> ok, I'd love to switch completely to linux (not a big fan of microsoft) the only thing holding me back is I like to play games (half-life, GTA, AOE, etc)
[02:17] <maxL> Infern0o: Do have to use sudo?
[02:17] <Infern0o> maxL: what does it say?
[02:17] <Infern0o> lemme check that
[02:17] <Cntryboy> Keldon: oh you mean fade
[02:17] <joeyk232> is perl installed with ubuntu or do i need to install a package?
[02:17] <sid> can I play these games in linux?
[02:17] <docta_v> sid: you can play with cedega under linux
[02:17] <Infern0o> no, u don't need sudo
[02:17] <maxL> Infern0o: well I didnt use sudo and it said
[02:17] <Cntryboy> Keldon: I Have mine set to alt+mouse scroll
[02:17] <sid> really?
[02:18] <maxL> Infern0o: max@Dizzy:~$ vba home/max/Desktop/Kh-Com
[02:18] <maxL> VisualBoyAdvance version 1.7.2 [SDL] 
[02:18] <maxL> Searching for file VisualBoyAdvance.cfg
[02:18] <maxL> Searching current directory: /home/max
[02:18] <maxL> Searching home directory: /home/max/.vba
[02:18] <maxL> Searching system config directory: /etc
[02:18] <skavenge> sid: most no but some yes
[02:18] <mborohovski> guys, help?
[02:18] <maxL> Reading configuration file.
[02:18] <Keldon> i'll try disabling that one Snoops_
[02:18] <maxL> Unknown file type home/max/Desktop/Kh-Com
[02:18] <docta_v> sid: yep, go to http://www.transgaming.com/
[02:18] <Cntryboy> Maxl: please use pastebin.com
[02:18] <bruenig> !pastebin
[02:18] <Fujitsu_> Please use pastebin, maxL.
[02:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:18] <Amalea> ardchoille: this is silk_fear, I'm on the other user
[02:18] <docta_v> sid: most of the really popular games work well with cedega
[02:18] <Keldon> Cntryboy: i have a RDP session open on my 2nd monitor, and it's very annoying that everytime it's unfocused it gets dark, disabling fade just gets rid of the fading effect
[02:18] <mille> bruenig, I works! Thank you so much!
[02:19] <ardchoille> Amalea: ok, can you use sudo now?
[02:19] <mborohovski> someone?
[02:19] <Amalea> ardchoille: no, look - greg is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[02:19] <sid> sweet
[02:19] <bruenig> mille, good make sure you repeat that chmod everytime you add plugins or add anything
[02:19] <Infern0o> maxL: kh-com is your rom?
[02:19] <Cntryboy> Keldon: so what are you wanting to do again?
[02:19] <joeyk232> i have a perl script and i need to point it to where perl is, but i'm not sure where that is
[02:19] <maxL> Infern0o: ya
[02:20] <Amalea> ardchoille: have any other suggestions?
[02:20] <Keldon> Cntryboy: not having any changes when a window loses focus and according to Snoops_ trailfocus plugin takes care of that one
[02:20] <Khisanth> joeyk232: /usr/bin/perl should work in most places
[02:20] <ardchoille> Amalea: open a term and type: lsb_release -a | grep Description   (and tell me what it returns)
[02:20] <mille> bruenig, I will
[02:20] <Infern0o> maxL: i don't know what you should do next... it should work that way...
[02:20] <maxL> kk
[02:21] <mille> bruenig, so when I installed it from automatix. All I had to do was, chmod 777 -R /opt/azureus? Then I would never had to reinstall it
[02:21] <bruenig> mille, pretty much
[02:21] <AngryElf> hmm, can i just say, picasa on ubuntu = me :)
[02:21] <Amalea> ardchoille: see, the problem is, any time I try to do something with the CORRECT password, it says " failed to run ----- child terminated with # status" something like that
[02:21] <shinobi2> how do i config dhcp and reconfig ifconfig/
[02:21] <shinobi2> ?
[02:21] <bruenig> mille, the automatix azureus uses the beta, which I like much better
[02:21] <Infern0o> maxL: you can always google vba linux, there seems to be quiet some info on the subject :)
[02:22] <Cntryboy> Keldon: have you tried ubuntu-xgl, DBO there would know prob. ever question u have
[02:22] <maxL> Infern0o: kk
[02:22] <Keldon> Cntryboy:  ah, good idea
[02:22] <Amalea> ardchoille: it said " Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)"
[02:22] <mille> bruenig, ok. Anyway, thanks for all your help!
[02:22] <maxL> Infern0o: I DID IT
[02:22] <byteshack2> I'm trying to use debootstrap to re-install ubuntu, can someone give me some help?
[02:23] <maxL> Infern0o: THANKS DUDE, I FIGURED IT OUT WITH YOUR ADVICE.
[02:23] <Infern0o> maxL: how? :)
[02:23] <maxL> Infern0o: I did that with unzipping the file.
[02:23] <Guest777> question
[02:23] <maxL> Infern0o: I owe you my gratitude, see ya.
[02:23] <Ninja> hey
[02:23] <Infern0o> maxL: hahahah good one, i'm glad it worked :)
[02:23] <byteshack2> I have hda1 -> /, hda2 ??? (boot?), and hda5 swap.  /home is somewhere else.  What is the debootstrap command I want to use?
[02:23] <ardchoille> Amalea: That release is two versions behind. I think support for it will be discontinued soo. If it were me, I'd make backups of all personal data and install Dapper on that machine.. but that is just my opinion
[02:24] <X-Rob_> Technical Question - We're thinking about making a derviative distro using Ubuntu rather than CentOS - Any howto's for this? I've found http://uck.sourceforge.net but that's for a live CD, which we definately want to avoid.
[02:24] <Guest777> lost my ubuntu desktop... have a blank black screen.... is there a keystroke to bring up terminal?
[02:24] <byteshack2> Do I need to reformat those partitions before I try to re-install?
[02:24] <Ninja> i use VLC as a media player and i Xed out and i dont see it any more ..and its not on the system tray but it is still playin can someone help me ????
[02:24] <Amalea> ardchoille: okay.. I know it is old, but it's all I've got for now. How do I download dapper and what is that
[02:24] <byteshack2> Guest777, C+A+1
[02:24] <Keldon> Snoops_: thanks, that was indeed the one :)
[02:24] <Guest777> tyvm byte
[02:24] <Super-Noob> can anyone help me get my wifi working?
[02:24] <ardchoille> Amalea: Dapper is the latest Ubuntu release with Long Term Support.. hold on.. I'll get you a URL
[02:25] <Shak-> anyone managed to get packet injection working on the ipw2200?
[02:25] <Guest777> nodda byte, have a mouse cursor (it moves) but nothing else
[02:25] <ardchoille> Amalea: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:25] <Amalea> ardchoille: okay, thanks  -- so that would be downloading me the newer ubuntu version?
[02:25] <byteshack2> no debootstrap gurus?
[02:25] <Cntryboy> Keldon: what was the problem?
[02:25] <Ninja> i use VLC as a media player and i Xed out and i dont see it any more ..and its not on the system tray but it is still playin can someone help me ????
[02:25] <Cntryboy> that snoops helped u with
[02:25] <hawkaloogie> Ninja, sudo killall -9 vlc
[02:25] <Cntryboy> shoot im high sorry
[02:25] <byteshack2> Ninja, whana kill it?
[02:25] <Cntryboy> lol I mean how did he get u to fix it
[02:25] <Keldon> Cntryboy: the windows without focus getting darker, trailfocus plugin takes care of that, not fade
[02:25] <Ninja> byteshack2, ya
[02:26] <byteshack2> or run xkill and "shoot it"
[02:26] <ardchoille> Amalea: That will get you the latest stable release of Ubuntu. It will also correct your sudo problems. But, backup any personal files before installing it
[02:26] <Cntryboy> keldon: kk
[02:26] <Guest777> byteshack- the last thing i did was install several DVD packages, then this after numerous revoots
[02:26] <darkyoshi372> Hi all, I want to create some little animations, like flash animations, but not in flash. Any ideas?
[02:26] <Super-Noob> Can anyone help me with my wifi?
[02:26] <Ninja> hawkaloogie, noo process killed?
[02:26] <Ninja> byteshack2, ?
[02:26] <Keldon> darkyoshi372: .gif? :)
[02:26] <ardchoille> Amalea: I will say, that once you get the new version installed, you'll have a rocking machine, IMHO :)
[02:26] <ttyfscker> can someone here help me figure out why adobe flashplayer 7 isnt accessing my hardware ?  it will detect my webcam and my mic, yet they wont work / initialize with flash based apps..   they work fine with flash in windows..  i thought this was a v4l problem until i found out the same thing was going on with my mic.. using ubuntu dapper here. someone plz help
[02:26] <Amalea> ardchoille: I did that for my entire "Amalea" folder.. I made a compressed file of them. how do I backup the others?
[02:26] <darkyoshi372> Keldon, I want to be able to do it with more ease than that.
[02:27] <hawkaloogie> Ninja, ps -A and look for something that looks like "vlc" to send to killall
[02:27] <byteshack2> run xkill from a terminal, that will bring up something that looks like cross-hais.  "target" the window and click!
[02:27] <ardchoille> Amalea: Just backup things in your home dir.. the rest of the system will have newer verion of apps and such anyway
[02:27] <gnubien> hi, i'm going to use ubuntu 6.06 on a new motherboard to find which modules are used for the onboard video, sound and eth; any tips or urls for getting setup info that ubuntu uses?
[02:27] <byteshack2> Ninja, did you get it to die?
[02:28] <Amalea> ardchoille: okay, then I'm good to go -- when I download, is it automatic? because, otherwise, It will not work... that little foot icon will just show up and I won't be able to do it
[02:28] <Ninja> hawkaloogie, thanks its wxvlx
[02:28] <Super-Noob> can anyone help a poor noob?
[02:28] <ardchoille> Amalea: You'll have to download the ISO and burn it to a CD as an image, then boot from it.
[02:29] <Amalea> ardchoille: what if I don't have a CD? and I can't burn on this.
[02:29] <Guest777> byteshack- thank you i have it now :)0
[02:29] <n3rdism> hrm- why am i missing a c compiler o.o;;
[02:29] <__mikem> because ubuntu doesn't ship with one installed
[02:29] <n3rdism> son of a
[02:30] <n3rdism> what do you suggest mike?
[02:30] <lz1gjd> after the latest update of compiz my compiz themes no longer work, could any1 point a solution pls ?
[02:30] <Snoops_> n3rdism apt-get install build-essential
[02:30] <ardchoille> Amalea: if you can't burn a cd for some reason, you'll have to wait until you can.. or buy an Ubuntu cd for a few bucks from some place like http://linuxcentral.com/catalog/?s_prod_name=ubuntu&set_join=and&cat=search
[02:31] <Cntryboy> Anyone know how to get my xwinwrap to show underneath my desktop icons instead of over them?
[02:31] <Keegan_Witt> I read something about a text based install that allows one to manually select packages, how is this done?  is there a wiki somewhere?
[02:31] <n3rdism> snoops: thanks dood
[02:31] <johso> hey folks. I'm trying to install avidemux, but it's not in my repos. multiverse is enable though, so I'm a little confused...
[02:31] <Amalea> ardchoille: hm.. all of this seems so hard. so I can't do it unless I have a CD. Does it have to be an ubuntu cd?
[02:31] <Cntryboy> snoops: you may know the answer to that
[02:32] <skavenge> Keegan_Witt: thats the install off the alternate-install cd
[02:32] <[AOP] Drakonslayo> sorry... just install ubuntu and i'm trying to figure out how to install a new theme can anyone help me out?
[02:32] <Keegan_Witt> skavenge, it is not accessable off the regular cd?
[02:32] <ardchoille> Amalea: You can, of course, install any Linux distro you want.
[02:32] <skavenge> Keegan_Witt: noep
[02:32] <skavenge> nope
[02:32] <lz1gjd> Cntryboy: xwinwrap -ni -argb -fs -s -st -sp -b -nf -- /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -window-id WID -delay 10000 - but which option exactly was for background i don't remember
[02:32] <Cntryboy> well I've tried -o 1
[02:32] <Zoolie> hi,i need serious help
[02:32] <ralphh> I have ls aliased to "ls --color=tty" in an xterm. I like the colors but the font is making the output of ls difficult to read especially directories. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[02:32] <Cntryboy> for opaque
[02:33] <Cntryboy> didn't work
[02:33] <Amalea> ardchoille: ah yes, I know. Question: on the list of downloads under Canada, which one do I click on?
[02:33] <Keegan_Witt> skavenge: is it set up as default then u change settings u wish to deviate, or is it all manually selected?
[02:33] <Zoolie> i have a broken package gaim 2.0 beta....and if i choose remove,it want to remove ubuntu-desktop too.....pls help!
[02:33] <skavenge> Keegan_Witt: you'd have to read up on the alternate install i've never used it
[02:34] <Cntryboy> lz1gjd: btw I don't have glmatrix, I've tried installing rss-glx and that xscreensaver pak ect.
[02:34] <Snoops_> johso hey - you've updated your repositories after adding multiverse right? Because it should be in there - re http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/graphics/avidemux
[02:34] <Keegan_Witt> skavenge: do u have the link on hand?
[02:34] <hawkaloogie> Zoolie, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package and safe to remove.
[02:34] <skavenge> zoolie; ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, a list of other packages, it can be deleted without problems
[02:34] <lz1gjd> any xscreensaver using opengl should work
[02:34] <Cntryboy> yah but i would like glmatrix though
[02:34] <skavenge> Keegan_Witt: no i suggest search the wiki or forums wiki.ubuntu.com ubuntuformus.org
[02:34] <Amalea> Keegan_Witt: are you by chance from Vancouver, BC?
[02:34] <Cntryboy> matrixview I don't like I don't like cmatrix either
[02:34] <johso> Snoops_: yes I have, and I've also lookon packages.ubuntu.com, and found it there too. I really don't get it.
[02:34] <Cntryboy> glmatrix is nice though
[02:34] <Amalea> ardchoille: did you see my previous message?
[02:35] <ardchoille> Amalea: for an ISO in Canada, I would recommend the ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso . That is the Alternate CD, it has a text-based installer, the reason I suggest it is because there are problems with the Desktop CD installer at the moment.
[02:35] <Zoolie> ok,i delete it
[02:35] <Zoolie> thx
[02:35] <Keegan_Witt> Amalea: no, I am from Ohio
[02:35] <Amalea> ardchoille: okay, thankyou
[02:36] <ardchoille> Amalea: You're welcome :) and good luck
[02:36] <Amalea> keegan_witt: oh, okay, I knew it was probably not the person I know. Just curious.
[02:36] <Keegan_Witt> :)
[02:36] <lz1gjd> Cntryboy: maybe sending the file to you and placing it to /usr/lib/xscreensaver/ would work for you
[02:36] <Gullstad> How make collour seperation whit the ls command?
[02:36] <[AOP] Drakonslayo> Anyone able to help me  out with installing a theme... any tricks to it, or somethingi don't know?
[02:37] <n3rdism> gullstad: the colors are set up by the system so you can tell what is what
[02:37] <Amalea> ardchoille: you were a great help, honestly. I will be getting a brand new computer in a few months though, and I won't ahve to deal with this.. it will be windows XP, so I'm glad about that. But I have to save up for it, hehe. Thanks Again Ardchoille.
[02:37] <Snoops_> johso well that's no fun.. let me see if I can find the package - for i386 right?
[02:37] <ralphh> Gullstad: alias ls="ls --color=tty"
[02:37] <ardchoille> Amalea: :)
[02:37] <johso> Snoops_: yes, i386
[02:37] <Zoolie> and if i want to delete my old gaim i just choose delete in synaptic and it will be deleted,and the ubuntu-desktop in safe
[02:37] <Cntryboy> lz1gjd: if you wouldn't mind
[02:38] <ralphh> Which brings me to my question
[02:38] <Cntryboy> but i'm on 2.1KB :(
[02:38] <ralphh> I have ls aliased to "ls --color=tty" in an xterm. I like the colors but the font is making the output of ls difficult to read especially directories. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[02:38] <ardchoille> [AOP] Drakonslayo: Have a look at this page: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.GnomeThemes
[02:38] <aevaughn> #kubuntu
[02:38] <lz1gjd> Cntryboy: you mean dial-up ? its a small file about 350KiB -> http://rapidshare.de/files/26129820/glmatrix.html here it is, hope it works for you
[02:39] <Snoops_> johso http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/a/avidemux/
[02:39] <Cntryboy> k thx
[02:39] <Cntryboy> yes on dialup at 2.1KB
[02:39] <lz1gjd> Cntryboy: maybe you'll have to make it executable by using chmod +x
[02:41] <Cntryboy> kk
[02:41] <shinobi2> i try to install xdesktp, error was package not found.  i typed 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[02:42] <lz1gjd> after installing latest compiz my decoration themes no longer work, could anyone tell me why ?
[02:42] <johso> Snoops_: aha, solved my problem. it's because the multiverse line was local (dk.archive.ubuntu..) - I'm now able to see avidemux in my repos. dapper doesn't have local multiverse, or what?
[02:42] <Cntryboy> lz1gjd: I wonder if thats why none of my xscreensavers work when I want to just do regular screen savers? You think I need to chmod +x the dir xscreensavers?
[02:43] <lz1gjd> nope, they should work without this
[02:43] <johso> Snoops_: http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/a/avidemux/ - I guess it does. I'm clueless. anyway, I'm able to install it now, thanks for your help :)
[02:43] <MTecknology> I converted a snes controller to a DB25 connector, i can use the joystick calibration tool to calibrate it just fine and it detects everything... When I configure my joystick in ZSNES it detects every button but no axes. Any help?
[02:44] <kinema> Does anyone have a way to install Ubuntu on a computer that refuses to boot from CD?  I'm trying to install Dapper on an old laptop (P233) that has a BIOS that doesn't support booting from CD.
[02:44] <Snoops_> johso cool beans :)
[02:45] <Advant-> kinema:  if its got a flopyy drive, maybe you should go that route to load cdrom drivers
[02:45] <kinema> Advant-: Are there Ubuntu boot floppies?
[02:45] <Zoolie> re
[02:45] <Advant-> kinema:  you shouldn't need an ubuntu floppy...
[02:46] <Zoolie> so,i deleted gaim package,but my ubuntu-desktop package marked as "not available"......
[02:46] <kinema> Advant-: how would i load the drivers if I can't boot from the CD?
[02:46] <Xaero_Vincent> Has anyone here tried Nexenta OS? Its like Ubuntu Dapper Drake but with a OpenSolaris kernel rather than Linux.. im not sure what benefits it has but it seems cool
[02:46] <Advant-> floppy disk would load your cdrom drivers, havn't you ever done that before
[02:47] <Ackeubu_> hey how do i run openoffice write from the terminal?
[02:47] <Cntryboy> lz1gjd: it won't let me move it to /usr/lib/xscreensaver and i've even sudo chmod +x that dir
[02:47] <Advant-> Anyone been able to get to the enlightenment CVS?
[02:47] <kinema> Advant-: Are you talking about DOS drivers?
[02:47] <Advant-> kinema:  i'm sure there is soemthing similar for linux
[02:48] <kinema> Advant-: Similar to what?
[02:48] <Advant-> doing it in dos to load windows setup
[02:48] <Cntryboy> anyone know why chmod +x /usr/lib/xscreensaver doesn't work when i'm trying to move glmatrix to that dir?
[02:49] <Advant-> Xaero_Vincent:  I tried using the belenix, which is bootable version of Solaris 10, but it froze on me due to hardware conflict, I m ight format and try Nexenta
[02:50] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: sudo?
[02:50] <Super-Noob> can someone please help me with my wireless card?
[02:50] <n3rdism> has anyone tried an iRam drive yet?
[02:50] <mborohovski> guys, anyone have any ideas as to why i cant see any _real_ terminals when the new nvidia driver is loaded?
[02:51] <dash`> do any gnome media players support a customizable title system like winamp does?
[02:51] <fuzzyice> does apt work with ubuntu?
[02:51] <ardchoille> fuzzyice: yes
[02:51] <gmoore> yes
[02:51] <n3rdism> yar
[02:51] <regeya> o_O
[02:51] <fuzzyice> better yet, is it the default package manager
[02:52] <gmoore> yes still
[02:52] <mborohovski> ...?
[02:52] <ardchoille> yes
[02:52] <regeya> O_o
[02:52] <fuzzyice> right on
[02:52] <dagrump_> kinema some cds have boot floppy image file a7 readme might try looking at that
[02:52] <Kyral> Ubuntu is derived from Debian
[02:52] <fuzzyice> any ntfs write support yet ?
[02:52] <Kyral> what Debian based distro doesn't use Apt?
[02:52] <n3rdism> yar!
[02:52] <fuzzyice> is it reliable\stable?
[02:52] <kinema> dagrump_: I just found something in the wiki.
[02:52] <Kyral> no
[02:52] <dagrump_> lol
[02:52] <fuzzyice> lol
[02:52] <Xaero_Vincent> no Ubuntu is a RPM distro.... RPM vrooom.. vroom. cough cough
[02:53] <ardchoille> hahaha
[02:53] <n3rdism> fuzzyice: i havent had any problems so far
[02:53] <fuzzyice> i havent used linux for awhileeeee
[02:53] <regeya> Ubuntu requires you to download tons of 3rd party software, all in .dmg files...
[02:53] <fuzzyice> but this xp activation is pissing me off making me switch
[02:53] <n3rdism> lol
[02:53] <regeya> ...wait, that's OS X.
[02:53] <fuzzyice> regeya yes it is
[02:53] <fuzzyice> lol
[02:53] <ttyfscker> can someone here help me figure out why adobe flashplayer 7 isnt accessing my hardware ?  it will detect my webcam and my mic, yet they wont work / initialize with flash based apps..   they work fine with flash in windows..  i thought this was a v4l problem until i found out the same thing was going on with my mic.. using ubuntu dapper here. someone plz help
[02:53] <dagrump_> kinema i used that to put dsl on a old gateway
[02:54] <wheels3572> Can someone help me figure out why I cant get jre to work ?
[02:54] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: yea
[02:54] <kinema> dagrump_: Yeah, I just found a page documenting on using a Smart Boot Manager floppy.  Thanks.
[02:54] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: did you install the binary or did you install the deb?
[02:55] <n3rdism> screen is so much better in gnome then kde
[02:55] <wheels3572> bin
[02:55] <regeya> n3rdism: if that's your only argument for using gnome over kde...
[02:55] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: bin file from suns website
[02:55] <apoc> help, I installed splashy, but it's not playing nice. How can I disable it?
[02:55] <n3rdism> haha no
[02:55] <dagrump_> kinema good work
[02:55] <regeya> n3rdism: note:  I'm currently using gnome.
[02:55] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: in the directory you installed the bin
[02:55] <KaJe> Having trouble getting dual head to work. Have a 22" CRT and a 17" CRT, wanting to set two different resolutions for the monitors so that the desktop is "extended."
[02:55] <Cntryboy> grrr got dissed
[02:55] <n3rdism> reg: ive used kde forever
[02:55] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know the answer to my issue here?
[02:56] <regeya> there are a few apps I have trouble living without that I may need to install soon, such as k3b and digikam.
[02:56] <wheels3572> i installed bin to usr/local
[02:56] <ttyfscker> it created a new directory named like the original .bin file..
[02:56] <n3rdism> k3b is the shite
[02:56] <[AOP] Drakonslayo> ok... this is how new i am to this program where are the themes kept? in ubuntu
[02:56] <regeya> n3rdism: I remember the pre-1.0 days.  I really think that business of chasing GNOME's tail on the theme front killed KDE.
[02:56] <[AOP] Drakonslayo> i can't find them any ideas?
[02:56] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: see I didnt' make a new directory i just went to the directory and then chmod it
[02:56] <regeya> KDE was on the right track before they got into theming...
[02:56] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: copy everything that is in the /usr/local/jre-version/bin/   directory to /usr/java/bin/
[02:57] <ardchoille> [AOP] Drakonslayo: System-wide themes are in /usr/share/themes.. user installed themes are in ~/.themes
[02:57] <n3rdism> i really thought kDE was going to make a comeback when novell dropped gnome
[02:57] <definity> can anyone know how i can get mad wifi driver working i got the kernel sources and now i dont knw what to do to them any ideas?
[02:57] <Aproxima> domo arrigatou
[02:57] <Aproxima> mister robotto
[02:57] <fuzzyice> is there nforce3 device support right off the bat with a ubuntu install, like my integrated ethernet and audio?
[02:57] <fuzzyice> sorry for the laziness
[02:58] <shinobi2> i do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-deskto' then computer as me for the CD, i don't have CD with me.
[02:58] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: you need to sudo mkdir /usr/java && sudo mkdir /usr/java/bin
[02:58] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: im a newbie how do I copy that via cli?
[02:58] <ttyfscker> and then you need to cp -r *  /usr/java/bin
[02:58] <orge> is there any way to search which file is the biggest?
[02:58] <ttyfscker> but you need to cd to the /usr/local/(jre-version)/bin
[02:58] <ttyfscker> you need to do that first wheels3572
[02:59] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why sudo chmod +x or chmod 775 /usr/lib/xscreensaver doesn't work? I"m trying to move glmatrix there
[02:59] <wheels3572> ok
[02:59] <KaJe> Anyone here using an ATI gfx card with dual head setup?
[02:59] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: ok so whats' the exact command do I add the && in there? or are they 2 separate commands
[02:59] <n3rdism> && is an operator
[02:59] <ttyfscker> you can use the && to make it all in one line... && means "do next"
[03:00] <shinobi2> how can i install ubuntu-desktop without the CD?
[03:00] <ttyfscker> or you can first do sudo mkdir /usr/java
[03:00] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: ty
[03:00] <ttyfscker> and then sudo mkdir /usr/java/bin
[03:00] <mister_roboto> ttyfscker: && means "logical and" meaning that if the first command returns with a non-zero status, the second command will not execute
[03:00] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: Why are you chmoding a directory?
[03:00] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: Why are you chmoding +x a directory?
[03:00] <SeraVitae> Hey there, was just wondering if it is possible to enable/disable video hardware (multiple video cards) *without* restarting X. Is this possible? I know windows can do it quite easily.
[03:00] <Cntryboy> ardchoille: should I use chown?
[03:00] <sztanpet> how can i add something to the runlevels so that it runs at boot?
[03:00] <Cntryboy> I want to move glmatrix there and it says access denied
[03:01] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: What exactly are you trying to do?
[03:01] <Cntryboy> I want to move glmatrix to /usr/lib/xscreensaver
[03:01] <ttyfscker> mister_roboto:: he's a newbie..  in newbie terms its easier to just say that it means    command1 execute && (then)  command 2
[03:01] <wheels3572> done that long command
[03:01] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: done that long command all in one
[03:01] <ketilkn> Cntryboy, you want +w
[03:01] <mister_roboto> ttyfscker: except that it won't "then" if the first command fails. it's important to understand that
[03:01] <fuzzyice> if I have a amd64 should I use the 64bit iso ... im using it as my main desktop
[03:01] <Cntryboy> what is +w
[03:01] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: sudo cp glmatrix /usr/lib/xscreensaver
[03:01] <mwsmedia> back with another newbie question:  how can I change permissions on the windows partition?  It shows up as hdc1 and is only accessible by "root."
[03:02] <ttyfscker> mister_roboto::  i didnt give him an example where the first command would fail...
[03:02] <Cntryboy> ardchoille: trying to see why though I can't through gui
[03:02] <ttyfscker> wheels3572::   now cd to /usr/local
[03:02] <Cntryboy> ketilkn: what is +w
[03:02] <wheels3572> mister_roboto: tty typing was correct and the spelling was correct so it wouldn't fail
[03:02] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: Maybe because you aren't running the gui filemanager as root user?
[03:02] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: done
[03:03] <ttyfscker> wheels3572::  after your in /usr/local   do ls jre*
[03:03] <mister_roboto> ttyfscker: i understand trying to simplify something for noobs but if he remembers that for a long time, and it becomes foundational to his learning of scripting, he will be confused later. <shrug>
[03:03] <Cntryboy> ardchoille: i know that, but usually if I chmod it it would let me write to it
[03:03] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: You can't chmod the dir from within the gui filemanager
[03:03] <ttyfscker> mister_roboto:: i agree there.. but he will learn that easily later on when he tries to do something that fails on the first..
[03:03] <wheels3572> what are you looking for specifically
[03:03] <mister_roboto> ttyfscker: touche
[03:03] <Cntryboy> ardchoille: i'm not
[03:04] <ttyfscker> you should have like jre-X.X.X  some #s
[03:04] <dadgumit> hello all
[03:04] <Cntryboy> ardchoille: from term
[03:04] <ttyfscker> its a directory
[03:04] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: sudo cp glmatrix /usr/lib/xscreensaver  is the easiest way to do it without changing the dir
[03:04] <dadgumit> anyone know anything about xorg locking up when SMP is enabled?
[03:04] <dadgumit> (either tha or acpi acip mapping)
[03:04] <Cntryboy> ardchoille: i know man, but I'm trying to figure out whyyyy chmod isn't working
[03:04] <mwsmedia> back with another newbie question:  how can I change permissions on the windows partition?  It shows up as hdc1 and is only accessible by "root."
[03:04] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: *without chmodding the dir
[03:04] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: it may even be /usr/local/java
[03:04] <[AOP] Drakonslayo> ok i'm just gonna ask one last time but put it in different terms, with my theme where do i extract the file to (sorry for asking again, just trying to get the hang of this)
[03:05] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: Chmodding a directory +x doesn't do anything because directories are already chmodded +x
[03:05] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: type in cd j<tab><tab>
[03:05] <ttyfscker> the tab <tab>  is keys.. see what directories you see after doing that
[03:05] <Cntryboy> ardchoille: oh okay, so what does +w do
[03:05] <OSAD> hi
[03:05] <wheels3572> ttyfscker:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18253
[03:05] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: +w doesn't do anything, afaik there isn't a +w
[03:06] <Cntryboy> lol that dude said there was
[03:06] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: Belay that, +w makes it writable
[03:06] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: ohhh ok let me check that
[03:06] <Cntryboy> so if I wanted to make a dir from term write accessable what would the command be
[03:06] <Cntryboy> oh ok
[03:06] <Cntryboy> thx
[03:06] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: Sorry about that mixup
[03:06] <Cntryboy> np
[03:07] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: cd to jre<tab> and it will complete the rest
[03:07] <wheels3572> wheels@wheels-desktop:/usr/local/jre1.5.0_07$
[03:07] <ttyfscker> ok
[03:07] <GhettoPuNKkiD> can someone please help with freenx? im getting this error on my client:
[03:07] <GhettoPuNKkiD> Permission denied (publickey,password).
[03:07] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: yep the tab key completes the rest of the word
[03:07] <ttyfscker> sudo cp -r /usr/local/jre1.5.0_07/bin/* /usr/java/bin/
[03:08] <ttyfscker> what java app are you trying to use wheels3572 ?
[03:08] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: ok back to command prompt
[03:08] <ttyfscker> yea
[03:08] <ttyfscker> now it should work
[03:08] <ttyfscker> try launching your java app
[03:08] <wheels3572> will try it :)
[03:09] <Drupsta> hi folks
[03:09] <[AOP] Drakonslayo> bbback
[03:09] <mborohovski> !sleep
[03:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about sleep - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:09] <mborohovski> hey guys, how can i get sleep working on my laptop?
[03:09] <dash`> do any gnome media players support a customizable title system like winamp does?
[03:10] <mwsmedia> can anyone help a newbie change permissions on a mounted volume?
[03:10] <mwsmedia> usb
[03:10] <mwsmedia> sorry, typo
[03:10] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: it work ok now?
[03:10] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: nope still looking for missing plugins grrrrrrrrrrr da r n pogo
[03:10] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: what app are you using?
[03:11] <wheels3572> I am in pogo trying to use pogo games
[03:11] <Drupsta> did any one has problem mounting ubuntu after intallation on hard disk?
[03:11] <wheels3572> firefox
[03:11] <ttyfscker> ok
[03:11] <ttyfscker> hang on
[03:11] <wheels3572> ok
[03:11] <ttyfscker> lemme see where my java plugins are
[03:11] <ttyfscker> i thought you was trying to run a java application
[03:11] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: should I have had all web browser windows shut before doing all this?
[03:11] <ttyfscker> you need the java plugin in the firefox plugins now
[03:11] <wheels3572> just a java website
[03:12] <BioGeek> Hey everybody, I'm upgrading to 6.06, but in the process I got an error message: "Configuring cupsys:  an error occurred while parsing the port number or the host name. "
[03:12] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: yes that is what I have needed from teh beginning ooops sorry my bad
[03:12] <wheels3572> sorry bout that ttyfscker
[03:12] <BioGeek> I'm then asked to correct my input, but I see no space to put input, nor do I know what I should input
[03:13] <mborohovski> anyone know how to put my pc to sleep?
[03:13] <Drupsta> did any one has problem mounting ubuntu after intallation on hard disk? I am having the problem with booting ubuntu, can any one help me please?
[03:13] <auk> ubotu, glib-gettext
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about glib-gettext - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:13] <SeraVitae> Hey there, was just wondering if it is possible to enable/disable video hardware (multiple video cards) *without* restarting X. Is this possible? I know windows can do it quite easily.
[03:13] <auk> ubotu, gettext
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about gettext - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:13] <auk> ubotu, slab
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about slab - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:13] <auk> :(
[03:13] <MTecknology> Can anybody help me figure out why everything works on my snes controller when I calibrate it, but no emulator seems to support the up/down/left/right access?
[03:14] <BioGeek> nevermind, it's running again....
[03:14] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: do this and see if you get anything:   locate libjavaplugin.so
[03:15] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: command prompt lol
[03:15] <ttyfscker> ok how long has it been since you installed java?
[03:15] <MTecknology> axis*
[03:15] <ardchoille> wheels3572: now run sudo updatedb and run that locate command again
[03:15] <ttyfscker> just a few minutes?
[03:15] <ttyfscker> yea
[03:15] <ttyfscker> run updatedb and then you should be able to locate it
[03:15] <Subhuman|laptop> !ipv6
[03:15] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:15] <mwsmedia> is there anyone here who can help with a permissions issue?
[03:15] <ardchoille> mwsmedia: I sure there is
[03:16] <GhettoPuNKkiD> !freenx
[03:16] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[03:16] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: earlier this afternoon I installed it
[03:16] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: it will take updatedb a few minutes to get done
[03:16] <carthik> how do I write a regexp that matches all alphabets. numeral, and symbols such as - and ~ ?
[03:16] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  I'm trying to understand how to change permissions on a mounted volume (hdc1) so that it is accessible to anyone logged in, not just "root."
[03:16] <Drupsta> a newbie in ubuntu here, any one willing to help me out with booting?
[03:17] <n3rdism> 114,000 VIRUSES?! I'm making the switch!
[03:17] <ardchoille> mwsmedia: Where is it mounted?
[03:17] <n3rdism> kekekekekeke
[03:17] <wheels3572> ttyfscker & ardchoille: still no luck I still get command prompt
[03:17] <wheels3572> after both those commands
[03:17] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  I'm pretty much a newbie -- how do I find that out?
[03:17] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: you did updatedb?
[03:17] <caplex> can someone help with a compiling problem? when i ./configure i get this error - configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../..  install-sh is in the program directory, but it's a symlink which points here - /usr/share/automake-1.9/install-sh. i don't have automake-1.9
[03:17] <wheels3572> first the updatedb and then the locate I get a command prompt
[03:17] <wheels3572> yes I did ttyfscker with the sudo in front
[03:17] <ttyfscker> did you try locate libjavaplugin.so?
[03:18] <ardchoille> wheels3572: what was the locate command you used?
[03:18] <auk> Drupsta: yes, there is
[03:18] <dibblego> how do I resolve this dependency problem with apt-get? I cannot apt-get anything http://rafb.net/paste/results/xOFttj96.html
[03:18] <Drupsta> hi auk
[03:18] <wheels3572> ardchoille: locate libjavaplugin.so
[03:18] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: try locate libjavaplugin
[03:18] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: tada got that list
[03:19] <ardchoille> wheels3572: or try locate javaplugin.
[03:19] <ardchoille> ahh, ok
[03:19] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  I figured that one out:  it's mounted on /media/hdc1
[03:19] <ttyfscker> now the problem is which one of these is the one firefox needs
[03:19] <wheels3572> good question lol
[03:19] <ardchoille> mwsmedia: ok, you need to change the perms on the mount point itself
[03:19] <dibblego> ttyfscker, the one in jre/lib/blah blah
[03:20] <ttyfscker> yea.. wheels
[03:20] <ttyfscker> just do this
[03:20] <MTecknology> How can I tie two keys together?
[03:20] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  so!  Not on the /dev/, but on the /media/...  okay, I think.  Let me try, and if I screw it up, I'll let you know.  Thank you!
[03:21] <dibblego> what can you do when apt-get is screwed up?
[03:21] <ttyfscker> cd /usr/local/jre1.5.0_07/lib
[03:21] <MTecknology> dibblefo sudo apt-get install -f
[03:21] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: ok done
[03:21] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  okay, I thought I needed to do "sudo chmod 777 /media/hdc1" but that didn't work.  Help?
[03:21] <prophet> for some reason my cloock keeps messing yup
[03:22] <ttyfscker> now cd i386
[03:22] <dibblego> MTecknology, that seems to change things, thanks
[03:22] <auk> Drupsta: start talking an someone will probably chime in
[03:22] <krism> anybody know offhand how to query dpkg to see what package provides a file? (i'm looking for "import" to grab xwindow images)
[03:22] <dibblego> MTecknology, actually, it still barfs
[03:22] <prophet> anyone have any suggestions
[03:22] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: ok done
[03:22] <ardchoille> mwsmedia: No idea.. that's always worked for me.
[03:22] <MTecknology> dibblefo, that just fixes broken packages, what's going on?
[03:22] <doneir> Krism, use 'apt-file'. You'll have to install it
[03:22] <krism> doneir:  ah, tx
[03:23] <ttyfscker> wheels do a ls
[03:23] <ttyfscker> and see if you see a libjava.so
[03:23] <slew> how do i get vlc to associate with dvds?
[03:23] <dibblego> MTecknology, no idea to be honest http://rafb.net/paste/results/MEbZZ440.html
[03:23] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: sure do
[03:23] <wheels3572> it's in green
[03:23] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  the return on that command was "chmod: changing permissions of '/media/hdc1': Read-only file system"  Would that matter?
[03:23] <Drupsta> I installed the uduntu from the live cd and when i restart to boot from the new installed OS, it stalls when mounting the root file system
[03:24] <ttyfscker> ok sudo cp libjava.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[03:24] <MTecknology> dibblefo, I had the exact same problem with the exact same package
[03:24] <ardchoille> mwsmedia: Ahh, yes, that means the device is mounted ro instead of rw. Type mount and see if that is the case with /media/hdc1
[03:24] <MTecknology> wish i remembered how to fix it, give me a second
[03:24] <dibblego> MTecknology, what can I do so that I can use apt-get again?
[03:24] <ttyfscker> do that and restart firefox and then in the URL type in about:plugins   and see if it shows java
[03:24] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: ok done back to command prompt
[03:25] <dibblego> MTecknology, I found a forum post that has a suggestion - I will give it a try
[03:25] <MTecknology> dibblefo, do these commands
[03:25] <charlie> algum brasileiro?
[03:25] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  "mount" returns "/dev/dhc1 on /media/hdc1 type ntfs (rw)"
[03:25] <MTecknology> dibblefo, sudo apt-get install -f
[03:25] <dibblego> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1254061 "the problem is a incorrect link in /etc/rc2.d K09samba link to /samba instead ../init.d/samba"
[03:25] <id10t> can i boot using grup from a pci ide card? not in scsi mode, installer sees it as hde, first install after boot grub can't find the file when the timer runs out or i hit enter
[03:25] <id10t> grub rather
[03:25] <dibblego> MTecknology, done that
[03:25] <MTecknology> dibblefo, sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1_i386.deb
[03:26] <MTecknology> dibblefo, sudo apt-get install -f
[03:26] <dibblego> MTecknology, done
[03:26] <dibblego> MTecknology, doing
[03:26] <MTecknology> dibblefo, sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/K09samba
[03:26] <Drupsta> I installed the uduntu from the live cd and when i restart to boot from the new installed OS, it stalls when mounting the root file system .... after 10 mintues its says hda1 not found.... i have been looking int the forums but i could find the right solutions, can any one tell me why is that happening?
[03:26] <MTecknology> dibblefo, sudo apt-get install -f
[03:26] <ttyfscker> wheels3572::  did you do about:plugins?
[03:26] <wheels3572> nope
[03:27] <MTecknology> dibblefo, that's exactly what I did, line for line
[03:27] <ttyfscker> restart firefox and put that in the URL
[03:27] <dibblego> MTecknology, that seems to have fixed things, thanks
[03:27] <ttyfscker> see what plugins it is loading
[03:27] <MTecknology> dibblefo, yw
[03:27] <ardchoille> mwsmedia: Ok, the file system on that device is NTFS. Sorry, I can't help with that file system.
[03:27] <joeyk232> i'm having trouble adding a dir to my PATH, can anyone help?
[03:28] <MTecknology> So, can somebody explain how to remap keys on my keyboard?
[03:28] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes   application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes
[03:28] <id10t> joeyk232, export PATH=$PATH:/place/to/new/dir
[03:28] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: you dont see a java plugin?
[03:28] <wheels3572> nope
[03:28] <id10t> joeyk232, put it in /etc/profile or .bashrc to make it permament
[03:28] <KaJe> Anyone here using an ATI gfx card with dual head setup? I have 22" and 17" CRTs and want the "Big Desktop" setup, but all I get is a clone on the secondary monitor (which looks zoomed in and doesn't display the entire desktop at one time since it can't handle the resolution I have set on the primary)
[03:28] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  what's weird is, I had access to it when I first installed (Breezy, on my laptop) and I still have access to ntfs mounts on my desktop, which is Dapper.  Why would it change, I wonder?  Could I have installed something else that messed with it?
[03:28] <ttyfscker> ok go back to the command line and do this sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjava*
[03:29] <GhettoPuNKkiD> can someone help with freenx please? error: Permission denied (publickey,password).
[03:29] <joeyk232> thanks
[03:29] <ttyfscker> then give me an email address im going to send you the appropriate plugins so that i know they work
[03:29] <id10t> GhettoPuNKkiD, sounds like you don't have a proper key file
[03:29] <slew> how do i get vlc to associate with dvds?
[03:29] <ttyfscker> it'll save some time figuring out why you dont have libjavaplugin.so  anywhere....
[03:29] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: can I pm you that
[03:29] <GhettoPuNKkiD> id10t: yup, how would i fix that?
[03:29] <ttyfscker> yes
[03:30] <ardchoille> mwsmedia: I'm not sure
[03:30] <id10t> GhettoPuNKkiD, network/physical access ot the drive the key is sitting on... of course, then you'll need the password for the key
[03:30] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  fair enough.  I know there are a lot of variables.  Thanks for trying!
[03:30] <Drupsta> i am a newbie, I installed the ubuntu from the live cd successfully on my hard disk and when i restart to boot from the new installed OS, it stalls when mounting the root file system .... after 10 mintues its says hda1 not found.... i have been looking in the forums but i couldnt find the right solutions, can any one tell me why is that happening?
[03:31] <GhettoPuNKkiD> id10t, ive got network access via ssh/putty
[03:31] <ardchoille> mws Sorry I could't be of more help.
[03:31] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: i didnt get it
[03:31] <GhettoPuNKkiD> id10t: where do i go from here?
[03:31] <yggdrasi1> drupsta.. is this a laptop ?
[03:31] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  no problem.  I don't suppose you have any Hamachi experience?
[03:31] <id10t> GhettoPuNKkiD, then you need to copy the .ssh/* stuff ot eh machine you are sitting at.. of course, *nix generated keys don't work in putty...
[03:31] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: ok now?
[03:31] <sharms> !tell mwsmedia about fstab
[03:31] <Drupsta> its a desktop with pentium 4 (3,2 GHZ)
[03:31] <z0rz--> Any ops on?
[03:32] <mwsmedia> sharms:  how's that?
[03:32] <id10t> Drupsta, sata drive ?
[03:32] <sharms> mwsmedia: read the msg from ubuntu, that explains the mount problem
[03:32] <sharms> z0rz--: #ubuntu-ops
[03:32] <Drupsta> idiot : i guess so
[03:32] <z0rz--> k thanks
[03:32] <P1N3R> hi
[03:33] <mwsmedia> sharms -- sorry, are you saying go to #ubuntu-ops?  What's z0rz--:?
[03:33] <sharms> mwsmedia: I am telling you to read the private message from ubotu
[03:33] <ttyfscker> yes wheels3572 pm the email addy.. i done have the instructions wrote out and the file attached just waiting on your addy
[03:33] <id10t> Drupsta, the kernel you are using for the first boot may think it is scsi instead of ide... has happened to me with lesser distros, but not ubuntu (at work on sata machine)
[03:33] <P1N3R> i just installed Ubuntu onto another partition alongside Windows XP
[03:33] <wheels3572> hmmmmmmm I did it wont work hm???
[03:33] <GhettoPuNKkiD> okay id10t, im confused
[03:33] <P1N3R> when i reboot it boots into windows
[03:33] <ardchoille> mwsmedia: I don't even know what hamachi is
[03:33] <GhettoPuNKkiD> please hold
[03:33] <GhettoPuNKkiD> !freenx
[03:33] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[03:34] <mwsmedia> sharms:  which I just noticed.  Thanks!
[03:34] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: do you see the pm now?
[03:34] <wheels3572> Yeah I see it
[03:34] <id10t> GhettoPuNKkiD, you must have a private key file that matches the public key in the account you are trying to ssh to.  put that private portion of the key in the right spot, ssh in, specifying that key, and enter the key's password...
[03:34] <wheels3572> ttyfscker:  you see my reply
[03:34] <mwsmedia> ardchoille:  it's a no-config encrypted networking app.  http://www.hamachi.cc
[03:34] <ttyfscker> wheels you aren't registered with nickserv
[03:35] <wheels3572> damnit thats' why
[03:35] <sharms> wheels3572, ttyfscker : you need to be registered with nickserv
[03:35] <wheels3572> sorry bout language
[03:35] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: /nickserv register yourpassword
[03:35] <wheels3572> hold on
[03:35] <id10t> GhettoPuNKkiD, that private key must be where you are trying to connect FROM
[03:35] <P1N3R> can someone please help me?
[03:35] <ardchoille> P1N3R: With what?
[03:35] <Drupsta> how should i change it to recognise for ide ?
[03:35] <wheels3572> I am not registered period wtih nickserv
[03:35] <z0rz--> Alright I'm trying to install daper ubuntu on my laptop .. and when I boot into the disk, it's running in 640x480 ... my screen resolution is 1024x768 .. the problem is .. I can't see the whole installation wizard so I'm afraid I might be doing something wrong .. I can't change the resolution in the screen resolution pull down .. Is there another way I can force a screen res change?
[03:35] <ttyfscker> no you need to do that.. it dont take but a sec
[03:36] <offroadgeek> after I do 'sudo make menuconfig' and choose all the kernel modules I need and save a .config alternate, I try to 'sudo make' and I get an error "No rule to make target 'init/main.o'...  any suggestions?
[03:36] <z0rz--> It's a Dell Inspiron 1100 2.4ghz 512mb of ram 80gb hd
[03:36] <sharms> z0rz--: you can move the mouse around to the parts of the screen you cant see
[03:36] <wheels3572> it wont let me
[03:36] <wheels3572> I am using /nickserv register wheels3572
[03:37] <P1N3R> ardchoille: i just installed Ubuntu alongside windows xp. they are both on seperate partitions. When i rebooted after the installation had completed, it booted into windows without giving me any option to boot into linux
[03:37] <ttyfscker> did you /nickserv register <yourpassword>
[03:37] <ttyfscker> it wont let you use the same pass as your username
[03:37] <wheels3572> I have tried that too
[03:37] <ttyfscker> heh
[03:37] <n3rdism> P1N3R: you have to install grub
[03:37] <id10t> z0rz--, plug in an exfernal monitor, or flip to a VT, edi tthe X confg file, flip back, restart X
[03:37] <SeraVitae> Hey there, was just wondering if it is possible to enable/disable video hardware (multiple video cards) *without* restarting X. Is this possible? I know windows can do it quite easily.
[03:37] <sharms> !tell P1N3R about dualboot
[03:37] <P1N3R> how do i do that n3rdism
[03:37] <z0rz--> sharms .. no there isn't a virtual screen .. .. I can see the tool bars at the top and bottom ... the actually installation wizard is cut off
[03:37] <n3rdism> !grub > P1N3R
[03:37] <ttyfscker> wheels3572:: look in the status window and see what it says
[03:37] <id10t> z0rz--, does it work proper on the live cd?
[03:37] <sharms> P1N3R: read your pm
[03:37] <ardchoille> P1N3R: Let me guess, you installed WindowXP *after* Ubuntu?
[03:37] <wheels3572> hold on
[03:37] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm having some network trouble.  I have my router set up for static IP, and I'm getting a connection to the LAN but I can't ping external hosts
[03:37] <z0rz--> idl0t isn't the live cd and the installation cd kinda the same thing?
[03:38] <sharms> z0rz--: there is a video failsafe option, when booting hit the more options thing and boot from there
[03:38] <id10t> Tonren, can you do dns lookups of external hosts?
[03:38] <Drupsta> id1Ot: can you suggest me what to do next please?
[03:38] <z0rz--> if it isn't .. then no, I haven't tried it
[03:38] <P1N3R> doesnt GRUB install as standard?
[03:38] <offroadgeek> can someone help me re-compile a kernel?  I'm getting an error and I've googled all over with no success?
[03:38] <sharms> P1N3R: read the links.
[03:38] <wheels3572> I am getting no such command
[03:38] <sharms> P1N3R: the dualboot tutorial I sent you explains it 100%.
[03:38] <ardchoille> P1N3R: Which OS did you install last?
[03:38] <sharms> ardchoille: I already solved his problem, move on
[03:38] <id10t> Drupsta, read on grub about how to specify the root device, and put in /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/hda1
[03:38] <ttyfscker> try this then /msg nickserv register yourpassword
[03:39] <ericericeric> I have a really bizarre problem. I can't install the package kubuntu-desktop, because of "broken packages", but it seems unlikely that any of the packages kubuntu-desktop depends on could be broken.  The really bizarre thing is that this is a fresh install, though I have installed xgl+compiz.  Does anybody have any idea how to fix this?
[03:39] <ardchoille> sharms: Please be respectful
[03:39] <Drupsta> thanks i will try that
[03:39] <wheels3572> ttyfscker: ty that did it using msg :)
[03:40] <Tonren> id10t, when I try to ping google.com it gives me "unknown host" instead of its IP address.  is that what you mean?
[03:40] <id10t> Tonren, yup. edit /etc/resolv.conf and add a nameserver
[03:40] <id10t> Tonren, or just get dhcp from your router..
[03:40] <Tonren> i have one
[03:41] <Tonren> id10t, I have my router's DHCP turned off so my webserver's local IP is static
[03:41] <dash`> do any gnome media players support a customizable title system like winamp does?
[03:41] <id10t> ah. and what ip is showing for your nameserver in resolv.conf then?
[03:41] <slew> how do i get vlc to associate with dvds?
[03:42] <Tonren> 192.168.2.1, which is the ip of my router
[03:42] <Shak-_> can anyone tell me what parameters I have to run to patch to get this to work: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/patches/ipw2200-1.1.1-rtap_iface.patch
[03:42] <skavenge> slew; in gnome?
[03:42] <slew> yah
[03:42] <sharms> Shak-_, patch -p1 < patchname.patch
[03:43] <Tonren> id10t: Earlier today I had to connect to a network through a proxy, so I set it up in Firefox and it worked, but made no command line changes
[03:43] <Shak-_> sharms: cool let me try that
[03:43] <id10t> Tonren, is your routers dns turned off too, since you turned off its dhcp?
[03:43] <skavenge> system -> admin -> removable drives and media
[03:43] <auk> ubotu, aclocal
[03:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about aclocal - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:43] <skavenge> slew ^
[03:43] <sharms> Shak-,  in the directory of the source you will compile
[03:43] <id10t> Tonren, just for giggles, add an outside dns server in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:43] <knoppix> hi all
[03:43] <Tonren> id10t: I don't think it's a router problem.  the comptuer I'm typing on now is connected to the exact same router in the exact same way
[03:43] <ardchoille> hi knoppix
[03:44] <Tonren> id10t: A fake one?
[03:44] <id10t> Tonren, does it have a static ip?
[03:44] <id10t> Tonren, nope, a working one
[03:44] <MTecknology> can somebody please help me with my snes controller :'( !!!
[03:44] <sharms> Tonren: what is the output of the route command
[03:44] <Shak-_> sharms: ok, so I should just patch the file into the source dir
[03:44] <Tonren> id10t: Yes, I set up all computers on the network to have static ip
[03:44] <sharms> Shak-, yeah
[03:44] <GhettoPuNKkiD> id10t: got it, thanks for your help!
[03:44] <id10t> Tonren, can you ping it from within your lan?
[03:44] <slew> skavenge, yes, in gnome
[03:44] <knoppix> i downloaded enemy territory for linux and the file ends with "run" how do i install the game
[03:44] <Tonren> sharms: Dest 192.168.2.0 Gateway * Genmask 255.255.255.0 Flags U Metric 0 Ref 0 Use 0 Iface eth0
[03:44] <sharms> knoppix: sh ./file.run
[03:45] <knoppix> 10x
[03:45] <Tonren> id10t: Ping the router? Yes.  I cn also ping the connected computer
[03:45] <sharms> Tonren: is that the only line?
[03:45] <skavenge> slew: goto 'system' -> 'administration' -> 'removable drives and media'
[03:45] <Tonren> sharms: Yes.
[03:45] <sharms> Tonren: you have no default route, that is your problem
[03:45] <Tonren> sharms: I don't understand.
[03:45] <Tonren> sharms: If there'es only one there, isn't it the default?
[03:46] <id10t> Tonren, weird. can you telnet to your router on port 53?  (telnet router.ip.add.ress 53)
[03:46] <Shak-_> sharms: Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 
[03:46] <sharms> id10t: his default route is the problem
[03:46] <skavenge> slew: under the 'multimedia' tab, put in the box about DVDs what is typed to start vlc .. (i assume 'vlc')
[03:46] <sharms> Tonren: how did you configure the interface
[03:46] <Tonren> id10t: Connection refused.
[03:47] <id10t> sharms, if he can ping his router, and his router is his dns, he should be able to get valid dns
[03:47] <sharms> id10t, what was his dns ip?
[03:47] <Tonren> sharms: You mean, eth0?  I edited /etc/network/interfaces and added an address line
[03:47] <Tonren> sharms: 192.168.2.1, the address of my router
[03:48] <id10t> but if you can't telnet to 53 on that address, you aren't gonna get dns there either
[03:48] <offroadgeek> can anyone help me with compiling a new kernel?  I already have the necessary modules selected..
[03:48] <slew> skavenge, i dont have 'removable drives and media' on that menu =[
[03:48] <sharms> id10t, Tonren: I don't feel like going into it, but basically if you don't have a default route, the packets stop at your local network.  This is the issue.  I would recommend using GUI tools to configure your network, but if you are editing the interfaces file, add "gateway 192.168.2.1"
[03:48] <skavenge> slew: let me guess your not running 6.06 dapper?
[03:48] <Tonren> id10t: The compute rI'm typing on right now can't telnet on 53 to 192.168.2.1 either
[03:49] <knoppix> knoppix@knoppix-desktop:~$ sudo sh ./home/knoppix/Desktop/et.run
[03:49] <knoppix> sh: ./home/knoppix/Desktop/et.run: No such file or directory
[03:49] <knoppix> what to do?
[03:49] <Tonren> sharms: That's been added.
[03:49] <knoppix> pls help
[03:49] <Tonren> sharms: Is there a way to force a refresh/reload of /etc/network/interfaces ors omething?
[03:49] <sharms> Tonren sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:49] <id10t> Tonren, and thats where its getting its dns?  weird
[03:49] <slew> no i AM running dapper
[03:49] <knoppix> the file is there
[03:49] <slew> skavenge, i AM running dapper
[03:49] <skavenge> slew: theres no way its not there then
[03:49] <slew> oh ok
[03:49] <Infern0o> hi, i have a small problem... i'm on a dual boot setup, and now i've added some free diskspace to my linux hard drive. The size of the drive is changed, but the added diskspace is used... what do i do?
[03:49] <ardchoille> knoppix: try sh /home/knoppix/Desktop/et.run  (without the "." in the front)
[03:50] <sharms> Tonren: try ping 38.99.67.116 now
[03:50] <knoppix> 10x
[03:50] <slew> skavenge, so its just my menu that dosent have it?
[03:50] <Tonren> sharms: I'm getting a reply from it.
[03:50] <sharms> Tonren: then you are on the internet
[03:50] <sharms> Tonren: now just get a legit dns server and you are good to go
[03:50] <Tonren> sharms: I just pinged google.com's IP address as well; it worked
[03:51] <sharms> yay
[03:51] <Tonren> sharms: How do I legitimify my DNS?
[03:51] <skavenge> slew: my fault bad advice, 'system' -> 'preferences' (i dont run gnome so this is kind of from memory)
[03:51] <darth_gimp> I'm having trouble compiling... what exactly do I need?
[03:51] <sharms> Tonren: if google works your good, i thought idiot said your dns was broke
[03:51] <id10t> Tonren, run a local cache-only instance of bind
[03:51] <jmac__> I updated Dapper last week and it killed the external USB keyboard I was using. Any else experience similar problems?
[03:51] <Tonren> id10t: Sorry, that went over my head.
[03:51] <ardchoille> !build-essential > darth_gimp
[03:51] <darth_gimp> thanks
[03:51] <sharms> id10t: you understood that default route stuff I was talking about right?
[03:51] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:51] <Infern0o> !diskspace
[03:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about diskspace - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:52] <Tonren> !df
[03:52] <id10t> Tonren, you can run dns that just looks up stuff on the web for your lan
[03:52] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[03:52] <id10t> sharms, yup.  been using linux for 8 years :)
[03:52] <Tonren> id10t: I see... I think it's because I just don't completely understand the concept of DNS.
[03:52] <Tonren> id10t: so how do I run bind and restrict it to my local cache?
[03:52] <slew> skavenge, thanks, that worked. are you using kde then?
[03:52] <skavenge> slew: yup
[03:52] <id10t> Tonren, i agree. its scary. apt-get install bind will set up a cache-only server that you can point your lan at
[03:53] <id10t> Tonren, it will automagically go to the root servers for info for your lan
[03:53] <id10t> me 's isp's dns sucks
[03:53] <slew> next, is there an easy way to upgrade to the newest version of mplayer, 1.0?
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Does anyone run the Linux version of Google Earth
[03:54] <jmac__> Jack I do
[03:54] <jmac__> Slew use applications add remove
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Just wanted to verify it works..  Anything special I need to do..?
[03:54] <Infern0o> ok, it seems the extra diskspace is not there in linux
[03:54] <jmac__> Jack: I cheated and used automatix to install it
[03:54] <slew> jmac__, that gives ver MPlayer 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8. i want ver 1.0
[03:55] <Tonren> Oh, no.  I can't install the bind package because it can't resolve the domain name of the repositories!
[03:55] <ardchoille> lol
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jmac__:
[03:55] <chr1s_> hey
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jmac__: CHeater
[03:55] <Tonren> OHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
[03:55] <Tonren> My resolv.conf says 192.168. SIX!!!! .1!!
[03:55] <Tonren> Not two!
[03:55] <slew> Jack_Sparrow, nothing special, just install it and run it
[03:55] <chr1s_> recently.... my sound randomly fades by like 30% automatically and then adjusts itself back without any intervention... any ideas?
[03:55] <sapote> Jack_Sparrow, nothing special.
[03:55] <slew> Jack_Sparrow, quite easy actually
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jmac__: I'll rtfm and install it..
[03:55] <Tonren> When I connected to the proxy server, it changed it because the default gateway was different!
[03:56] <jmac__> I installed the beta manually and it was straight forward
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> It is just nice to know something really works under a particular distro
[03:56] <jmac__> I hear you
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks guys
[03:56] <techrush> how can i get to a run level without X ?
[03:56] <jmac__> I wish my external keyboard would work, the latest slew of updates killed it
[03:56] <Tonren> Working now...
[03:57] <mister_roboto> techrush: init <runlevel>
[03:57] <techrush> thx
[03:57] <Tonren> Thanks id10t, sharms
[03:58] <sharms> np
[03:58] <chr1s_> recently.... my sound randomly fades by like 30% automatically and then adjusts itself back without any intervention... any ideas?
[03:58] <Tonren> chr1s_: Excorcism?
[03:58] <jmac__> lol
[03:58] <chr1s_> sounds like it
[03:58] <chr1s_> its really strange and annoying
[03:58] <id10t> chr1s_, room mates get a new RF kit?
[03:59] <chr1s_> nope
[03:59] <jmac__> chris - Was it after any updates?
[03:59] <chr1s_> I setup XGL with compiz
[03:59] <chr1s_> and then unconfigured it
[03:59] <digitalhav0c> chris, its great right
[03:59] <chr1s_> I wasnt very impressed
[04:00] <Snoops_> I'm totally addicted to wobbly now.. when I'm at work I want to cry because I'm not using it
[04:00] <Infern0o> Anybody who c an help me with my lost diskspace? :)
[04:00] <chr1s_> I dont know it just seems a little unfunctional
[04:00] <Meltro> hi, is there some way to check for new hardware? I've got a LAMP setup within VMWare, transferred it from one computer to another (same VM build, same configuration), but my ethernet adapter disappeared
[04:00] <dadgumit> I am thoroughly convinced that asus is the suck
[04:00] <chr1s_> and too extra
[04:00] <chr1s_> if that makes any sense
[04:01] <dadgumit> It makes little babies cry and kittens die
[04:01] <chr1s_> u think one of the libraries for XGL could be causing the sound problems?
[04:01] <Cntryboy> Anyone know of a good video capture program besides istanbul? That proggy is crapola, it gets the first screen shot and nothing else, no video no nothing just the first frame.
[04:01] <n3rdism> dadgumit: agreed!
[04:01] <Snoops_> Cntryboy screen capture in linux sucks :( try xvidcap
[04:01] <dadgumit> I mean I think 99% of my problems have been centered around this craptacular thing
[04:02] <dadgumit> and I am too cheap to replace
[04:02] <Cntryboy> can I get it through apt-get?
[04:02] <Snoops_> don't think so
[04:02] <Tonren> dadgumit: get Superman to hurl it into the sun for you.  he does things like that
[04:02] <n3rdism> dadgumit: which board do you have?
[04:02] <Snoops_> try and find out
[04:02] <Cntryboy> nope
[04:02] <Cntryboy> do u know the link? I'm on 2.1KB :(
[04:02] <dadgumit> n3rdism A8R-MVP
[04:02] <Snoops_> google dude :)
[04:02] <n3rdism> :(
[04:02] <joeyk232> does anyone know a good makefile generator for C that works on Ubuntu?
[04:03] <Tonren> joeyk232: such a thing exists?
[04:03] <Cntryboy> snoops_: I know about google lol, but try it with 2.1KB and see how fast you wanna throw pc out the window
[04:03] <n3rdism> dadgumit: i went through a A8N5X and a A8S-X and then got a epox and fell in love
[04:03] <dadgumit> whenever I enable apic apci mapping I get both cores active in ub, but xorg wants to lock up on me and every time I hit the key it acts like I hit the key 5 times
[04:03] <joeyk232> Tonren: well i havn't got any makefile gen's to work yet, but i'm sure there are
[04:03] <Snoops_> Cntryboy it's a couple of meg at least as far as I remember
[04:03] <dadgumit> n3rdism epox = win?
[04:03] <Cntryboy> thats fine I got all night to dl it
[04:03] <Tonren> joeyk232: Personally I'll bet it's worth it to take 2 or 3 hours and just learn Makefile syntax.  I figured it out, and I'm a dumbass.
[04:03] <dadgumit> n3rdism: never heard of it
[04:04] <n3rdism> epox = t3h win
[04:04] <cius> 2 or 3 hours to learn make?  wow.
[04:04] <joeyk232> Tonren: oh i can make them, i just dont want to every time
[04:04] <Tonren> joeyk232: eventually it starts to become second nature
[04:04] <Tonren> joeyk232: unless it's REALLY annoying, i gues
[04:04] <dadgumit> asus' bios updater is even jacked, I have a feeling it is because I am not using thier crappy onboard nic, and it is disabled in the bios, and I am just to tired of doing this crap to reboot, enable it and change ports
[04:04] <dadgumit> MEH on it
[04:04] <darth_gimp> How do I solve this error "Parser perl module is required for intltool" ??
[04:05] <CAP5204> hi people!!
[04:05] <n3rdism> dadgumit: i suggest getting rid of it, if thats a valid solution :( i seriously couldnt even get anything to work on my asus except windows lol; what happend to asus
[04:05] <joeyk232> How can i define environment variables in ubuntu?
[04:05] <Remy> hey guys, anyone know a shell command that'll give me the linux time ?
[04:05] <Remy> ?
[04:05] <dadgumit> I have been trying so hard to get ubunut stable, but I think it has beaten me
[04:05] <n3rdism> Hi cap
[04:05] <ardchoille> Wowsers, someone has had too much caffeine
[04:05] <Remy> in it's raw form (it, calculated from 1970)
[04:06] <ardchoille> Remy: date ?
[04:06] <darth_gimp> How do I solve this error "Parser perl module is required for intltool" ??
[04:06] <Remy> that gives me the parsed date
[04:06] <Remy> I want the linux date
[04:06] <aujordanh> i dont have a way to get my ubuntu machine on the internet right now but my windows machine will, after i download nethack deb from packages.ubuntu how do intall it? i have had problems with gdebi
[04:06] <ardchoille> Ahh, sorry
[04:06] <Remy> ie, 564567854567874567854 since 1/1/1970
[04:06] <dadgumit> n3rdism: yeah, but then that will involve MORE work (replacing the mobo is teh sux)
[04:06] <Remy> or whatever it is
[04:06] <Remy> :)
[04:07] <n3rdism> dadgumit: its not so bad; especially with an uber case like mine with a mobo tray Y^^b
[04:07] <revilot> could anyone tell me how to block a particular application from connecting to the internet?
[04:07] <darth_gimp> ok thanks
[04:07] <n3rdism> lian li = the win
[04:07] <Snoops_> Cntryboy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45795&page=3&highlight=xvidcap
[04:07] <dadgumit> n3rdism: yeah, you know, when I bought my case, I said "how often do you change the mobo anyways?"
[04:07] <n3rdism> haha
[04:07] <dadgumit> n3rdism: I have changed it about 5 times since then :|
[04:07] <n3rdism> it just makes life easier
[04:08] <dadgumit> n3rdism: I see the error in my ways, but I wanted QUIET
[04:08] <ardchoille> Remy: date +%s
[04:08] <dadgumit> n3rdism and i got it
[04:08] <Cntryboy> snoops_: I found it through sourceforge, but thx Im going to go to that url though just to c
[04:08] <ryan_> I have samba installed and I cant see my linux computer on the network what should i check first
[04:08] <dadgumit> anyone can help with xorg locing up?
[04:08] <Remy> thanks ardchoille
[04:08] <Remy> :-)
[04:08] <n3rdism> dadgumit: you mean like doa quiet? ;)
[04:08] <CAP5204> someone install the ubuntu version 6.06 with a Pentium 4 ??
[04:08] <ardchoille> Remy: :)
[04:08] <revilot> could anyone tell me how to block a particular application from connecting to the internet?
[04:09] <dadgumit> n3rdism: well it works with windows :rollseyes:
[04:09] <prophet> whats a good site for themes?
[04:09] <n3rdism> prophet: theme for what?
[04:09] <prophet> ubuntu
[04:09] <n3rdism> dadgumit: :Q
[04:09] <prophet> Gnome
[04:09] <GhettoPuNKkiD> someone, anyone, where does apache2 store its 'htdocs' for breezy 5.10?
[04:09] <carthik> prophet, art.gnome.org
[04:09] <Toma-> anyone know if inkscape can make multi-page PDFs?
[04:09] <prophet> thank you sir
[04:09] <cius> prophet, gnome-look.org
[04:10] <carthik> GhettoPuNKkiD, you mean the served pages? they must be a /var/www
[04:10] <zul> GhettoPuNKkiD: /var/www/
[04:10] <GhettoPuNKkiD> thank you guys
[04:10] <GhettoPuNKkiD> :)
[04:10] <camilla> anyone know how can i convert avi or divx to vcd in linux , any program??
[04:10] <ardchoille> prophet: http://gnome-look.org  or  http://art.gnome.org
[04:10] <prophet> thanks for the response
[04:10] <n3rdism> dadgumit: the abit 32x sli is a really freakin awesome mobo as well if you're looking for a worthwhile upgrade
[04:10] <CAP5204> someone install the ubuntu version 6.06 with a Pentium 4 ?? i have 256mb of ram and i want to know if it will run slow
[04:10] <cius> prophet, google will likely respond even better
[04:11] <dadgumit> n3rdism: amd64?
[04:11] <n3rdism> yar
[04:11] <prophet> yeah thats exactly wha t i got
[04:11] <revilot> could anyone tell me how to block a particular application from connecting to the internet?
[04:11] <n3rdism> prophet: you lucky bastid
[04:11] <Snoops_> CAP5204 should be fine.. but when you can get more ram..
[04:11] <Infern0o> ok, i added a few gigs of diskspace to my ubuntu partition after installing. My ubuntu disk got bigger, but the diskspace shows up as used. Please help me
[04:12] <cius> !ubotu
[04:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:12] <CAP5204> thanks....snoops....
[04:12] <cpk2> real quick question does the ubuntu iso come with kde or am i going to have to go get kubuntu? (just burned the ubuntu iso on accident =X)
[04:12] <prophet> now for the fun part, figuring out howto install it, seems like linux its easy to find stuff its hard to install it
[04:12] <n3rdism> cpk2: kubuntu
[04:12] <Tonren> cpk2: Just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <skavenge> cpk2: you want kubuntu .. its a pain have gnome installed then installing kde and  keeping them seperate, trust me
[04:13] <camilla> anyone know how can i convert avi or divx to vcd in linux , any program??
[04:13] <Tonren> skavenge: so taht didn't just happen to me!!! KDE *KILLED* my GNOME
[04:13] <Tonren> skavenge: It was HORRIBLE.  KDE ruined everything.
[04:13] <revilot> could anyone tell me how to block a particular application from connecting to the internet?
[04:13] <n3rdism> poor gnomey-poo :(
[04:13] <Tonren> !firewall
[04:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[04:13] <Eagle3> camilla: mplayer maybe?
[04:14] <Infern0o> !partition
[04:14] <skavenge> Tonren: i said the same thing about gnome heh, they dont play nice together
[04:14] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[04:14] <Infern0o> !disksize
[04:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about disksize - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:14] <cpk2> alright guys thinks for the input, guess i will just give the ubuntu iso to the coffee table
[04:14] <Tonren> !df
[04:14] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[04:14] <z0rz_> My installation keeps freezing at 33% range ... I don't see any errors .. it just freezers
[04:14] <camilla> anyone know how can i convert avi or divx to vcd in linux , any program??
[04:14] <camilla> anyone know how can i convert avi or divx to vcd in linux , any program??
[04:14] <Infern0o> Tonren: In that graphical presentation my added gigs don't show
[04:15] <Tonren> Infern0o: hmmm...
[04:15] <Infern0o> Tonren: It does show up in gparted though
[04:15] <n3rdism> brb
[04:16] <Meltro> hi, is there some way to check for new hardware? I've got a LAMP setup within VMWare, transferred it from one computer to another (same VM build, same configuration), but my ethernet adapter disappeared
[04:16] <revilot> could anyone tell me how to block a particular application from connecting to the internet?
[04:16] <corsachriz> mahlzeit
[04:16] <mister_roboto> revilot: remove it?   :)
[04:17] <revilot> mister_roboto: thanks
[04:17] <Grubchub> howdy, what's the easiest way to recover a ubuntu username/password? :-\
[04:18] <cius> Meltro, do an lspci and see if your nic shows up
[04:18] <max_> Grubchub: you forgot your password?
[04:18] <Eagle3> camilla: did you search google?
[04:18] <camilla> no
[04:18] <Grubchub> yup :-( haven't used it much
[04:18] <zcat[1] > recover or reset?
[04:18] <camilla> ues
[04:18] <z0rz_> ANyone know why I can't get passed 33% installation on my dell inspirion 1100 .. I mean I can get Mac OS X86 to install on this thing for christ sake.. but ubuntu freezes at copying files
[04:18] <darkfrog> What's the ~/.kde/Autostart alternative in Gnome?
[04:18] <Meltro> cius: Yep, it shows up
[04:18] <revilot> could anyone tell me how to block a particular application from connecting to the internet?
[04:18] <Meltro> ifconfig doesn't list it though
[04:19] <Grubchub> whichever is easiest
[04:19] <zcat[1] > finding what it was is almost impossible, changing it to something new is quite easy.
[04:19] <Grubchub> I know *blush* i'm a retard
[04:19] <cpk2> z0rz_: bad cd?
[04:19] <mister_roboto> Grubchub: usually you boot to single user mode when that happens. then you'll be in root and you just change the password
[04:19] <max_> Grubchub: get knoppix or the ubuntu livecd boot from it, mount your ubuntu partition usually hda1 and type chroot /media/hda1 or wherever you mounted it and then passwd username
[04:20] <cius> Meltro, sounds like a driver issue to me, you search the forums?  I'm sure there's a help doc on networking.
[04:20] <cius> !networking
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:20] <max_> Grubchub: lol or that
[04:20] <Meltro> yea, but it was already installed. It's a virtual adapter, same model
[04:20] <Meltro> The only thing that could possibly be different is the MAC address
[04:20] <revilot> could anyone tell me how to block a particular application from connecting to the internet?
[04:21] <max_> anyone having problems with orinoco cards in dapper?
[04:21] <Grubchub> is recovery mode single user mode?
[04:21] <zcat[1] > single or init=/bin/bash is easiest imho. hadn't thought of mounting from livecd and using chroot though.
[04:21] <Grubchub> I don't see that as a grub option
[04:21] <max_> Grubchub: easiest to initiate a shell from grub like zcat[1]  said
[04:21] <mister_roboto> Grubchub: i've done that procedure on other unixes. not sure what the grub boot option is to pick a runlevel.   i think you just specify the number (like '1')
[04:22] <zcat[1] > in grub press 'e', pick the second kernel line with all the options and press 'e' again, then add either 'single' or 'init=/bin/bash' on the end of those options, press enter, press 'b' to boot.
[04:23] <Meltro> and, by the way, everything networking refers to the gui, which I don't have. The serverside documentation only refers to the /etc/network/interfaces file
[04:23] <zcat[1] > I think single should work but in some distros it asks for a root password too :)
[04:23] <Grubchub> eep!
[04:23] <Grubchub> k booting
[04:23] <revilot> could anyone tell me how to block a particular application from connecting to the internet?
[04:23] <cius> Meltro, I'm not sure then, don't think I can help you
[04:24] <ttyfscker> is there some reason that flash plugin isnt accessing my webcam and my mic ? i cant figure it out why its not
[04:24] <zcat[1] > ttyfscker: probably defaults to not allowing it...
[04:24] <Grubchub> wait a minute zcat... this seems to be installing... WINDOWS!
[04:24] <knapp> Help: X server will not start after installing (and uninstalling) initng: error: preinit returned null for "Configured Mouse"
[04:25] <Grubchub> dun dun dahhhhhh
[04:25] <ttyfscker> zcat[1] :: but where would that setting change be? i have set flash to allow it..
[04:25] <MTecknology> Can someody PLEASE tell me how to merge input from an LPT1 joystick with keys on my keyboard?
[04:25] <Meltro> cius: is there a way to find out what a device in lspci corresponds to in /dev?
[04:26] <squeakypants> hey all
[04:26] <zcat[1] > ttyfscker: ahhh.. not sure, I was just guessing :)
[04:26] <Infern0o> Hi, i added diskspace from my ntfs with partition magic to my ext3 hd, the ext 3 did increase in size, but the added diskspace shows up 'used', what can i do?
[04:26] <revilot> could anyone tell me how to block a particular application from connecting to the internet?
[04:26] <cpk2> !firewall
[04:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[04:26] <Grubchub> ack!
[04:26] <prophet> getting these things to work is as confusing as i thought
[04:26] <Grubchub> my irc client crashed
[04:26] <squeakypants> I just installed with nvidia drivers and the only resolution choices I have are 1024, 800, and 640
[04:26] <mandeep> sup
[04:27] <mandeep> squeakypants
[04:27] <squeakypants> why don't I have anything else, and how do I change to 1280x960?
[04:27] <squeakypants> hey
[04:27] <mandeep> you need to reconfigure x
[04:27] <cius> Meltro, try an lspci -v and see what it tells you about the nic, I"ve never done it myself
[04:27] <squeakypants> how?
[04:27] <revilot> cpk2: im aware of firewalls, but i see no option to block a specific app from accessing the internet in firestarter
[04:27] <mandeep> beats me i had the same problem and they gave me the link
[04:27] <squeakypants> guh
[04:27] <mandeep> haha
[04:27] <squeakypants> thanks anyway, i'll look it up
[04:27] <mandeep> ok
[04:27] <mandeep> hold on
[04:27] <knapp> plz help
[04:28] <mandeep> maybe i can look in terminal for the command
 hello can you help me installing live cd, its my first time
 i boot the live cd then this appears.. "[DR-DOS]  A:\"
 what should i do next?
[04:28] <ae101> #nu107
[04:28] <mandeep> wait i got it
[04:28] <mandeep> u there squeaky
[04:28] <squeakypants> X11 -configure?
[04:28] <squeakypants> cause I tried dpkg-reconfigure already
[04:28] <mandeep> you did?
[04:28] <squeakypants> lemme try again
[04:29] <mandeep> xserver-xorg?
[04:29] <mandeep> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:29] <squeakypants> not sure, I'll try it
[04:29] <mandeep> when u go through it all
[04:29] <revilot> cpk2: do you know of a firewall that will allow me to block specific apps
[04:29] <mandeep> it will ask what resolutions u waant
[04:29] <mandeep> then u select 1280xwhatever
[04:29] <godtvisken> What's a good graphical ftp client?
[04:29] <squeakypants> i didn't, i am now thanks :-D
[04:29] <Meltro> cius: nope, still nothing usefull. But thanks, more than most documentation's given, heh
[04:29] <davey_> can someone please help me, I have a network issue
[04:29] <davey_> multiple
[04:29] <mandeep> not me
[04:30] <davey_> I cam not a noob and have used linux for a while but this is to complicated for me to handel
[04:30] <squeakypants> where do i get the bus identifier?
[04:30] <mandeep> u dont need to
[04:30] <squeakypants> or should i just leave it?
[04:30] <squeakypants> k
[04:30] <mandeep> default is correct
[04:30] <revilot> could anyone tell me how to block a particular application from connecting to the internet?
[04:30] <cius> Meltro, I'm still learning all this myself, so I can only go with what I've learned thus far  :-)
[04:30] <mandeep> revilot delete it
[04:30] <Meltro> revilot: They've told you twice now
[04:30] <squeakypants> guh
[04:30] <Meltro> research IPTables
[04:30] <Dead_Karma> okay someone told me that i could get stuff for my ipod at the ubuntu repository.  now i would like to know where that is.  also does limewire work with ubuntu, and what do i need for pdf files?
[04:30] <squeakypants> it didn't autodetect the RAM
[04:30] <_3fg> Hello, I need some help with manually setting up a partition
[04:30] <Meltro> !firewall
[04:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[04:31] <mandeep> it doesnt matter
[04:31] <mandeep> just leave it blank
[04:31] <revilot> im aware of firewalls!!
[04:31] <squeakypants> are you sure? i know its 64mb
[04:31] <revilot> how do i block specific apps
[04:31] <Meltro> revilot: It works both ways
[04:31] <davey_> if anyone knows please help,l I need to reactivate a driver
[04:31] <mandeep> ya it doesnt matter
[04:31] <squeakypants> k
[04:31] <davey_> that I maunaly deativated
[04:31] <Meltro> revilot: IPTables isn't your standard firewall. It's muh smarter than that
[04:31] <cpk2> revilot: http://dansguardian.org/?
[04:31] <Meltro> much*
[04:31] <cpk2> err http://dansguardian.org/
[04:31] <revilot> Meltro: ok then how do i block SPECIFIC APPS
[04:31] <mister_roboto> revilot: you don't, you block the ports it uses
[04:31] <godtvisken> What's a good graphical ftp client?
[04:32] <_3fg> Is anyone free to help me through a manual partition? Even the smallest option on automatic partition will not work
[04:32] <_3fg> godtvisken: Filezilla
[04:32] <revilot> how can i block the port it uses without letting it attempt to connect first?
[04:32] <skavenge> grr i wish i could get zsnes to output sound properly, the sound is full of static
[04:32] <godtvisken> _3fg: what do you need to do?
[04:32] <_3fg> download it
[04:32] <Meltro> iptables. You can disable ports all you want.
[04:32] <mister_roboto> revilot: do you even know what this program does?
[04:32] <_3fg> skavenge: Nice nick :D
[04:32] <Dead_Karma> okay someone told me that i could get stuff for my ipod at the ubuntu repository.  now i would like to know where that is.  also does limewire work with ubuntu, and what do i need for pdf files?
[04:32] <Meltro> both ways
[04:32] <skavenge> thnks
[04:33] <revilot> mister_roboto: are you kidding? of course i do
[04:33] <^WINBLOWS^> how would i go about running an eggdrop off of desktop location through terminal?
[04:33] <_3fg> Limewire is for viruses, use something better
[04:33] <revilot> mister_roboto: youre ansering everything but the question im asking
[04:33] <mister_roboto> revilot: if you know what firewalls are, surely you understand that you can configure the firewall BEFORE ALLOWING THE PROGRAM TO RUN!
[04:33] <Dead_Karma> what about the rest of my question?
[04:33] <Cornellius> What's the easiest way of update X to ver. 7 ?
[04:33] <revilot> mister_roboto: so how am i supposed to know what port the program will use before allowing it to connect?
[04:33] <Dead_Karma> also what would you reccomend?
[04:34] <mister_roboto> revilot: well sorry, dude... but you're being a little retarded in how you're asking
[04:34] <skavenge> Cornellius: if your on dapper ir is ver 7
[04:34] <squeakypants> it won't let me go over 24bits
[04:34] <mandeep> 24bits is the highest
[04:34] <squeakypants> why can't it go up to 32?
[04:34] <mister_roboto> revilot: how do you even know it's trying to connect to something? you said you already know what it does. but you have no clue what ports it's using?
[04:34] <Meltro> revilot: Unplug the cable and use TCPDump to see what it tries to connect to
[04:34] <mandeep> 32 is a placebo
[04:34] <^WINBLOWS^> can someone tell me commands for running eggdrop from desktop
[04:34] <squeakypants> lol
[04:34] <mandeep> 24 is the actual amount of bits
[04:34] <squeakypants> alright
[04:34] <mandeep> the extra 8 is put into alpha channels
[04:34] <squeakypants> ah
[04:34] <revilot> mister_roboto: why are you being so obtuse, i asked if anyone knew a way to block specific apps, if you dont know then stfu
[04:35] <squeakypants> after I did that should I ctrl-alt-backspace?
[04:35] <mandeep> waity
[04:35] <_3fg> mister_robot: if you have finished with revilot, can you help me?
[04:35] <mister_roboto> revilot: you have gotten about 10 diff answers but you keep repeating like a parrot
[04:35] <squeakypants> ?
[04:35] <mandeep> did it let you select the resolution?
[04:35] <squeakypants> yea
[04:35] <mandeep> ya restart gnome then
[04:35] <mister_roboto> revilot: Meltro gave you the definitive answer
[04:35] <squeakypants> k
[04:35] <^WINBLOWS^> hello?
[04:35] <mandeep> hell
[04:35] <mandeep> o
[04:35] <Meltro> revilot: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html
[04:36] <^WINBLOWS^> how would i run eggdrop in terminal from desktop
[04:36] <skavenge> or install firestarter for an iptables gui frontend
[04:36] <mandeep> not sure
[04:36] <_3fg> can anyone help me please? I've asked multiple times.
[04:36] <mandeep> wait winblows
[04:36] <revilot> Meltro: thx
[04:36] <mandeep> is the program called eggdrop
[04:36] <^WINBLOWS^> my eggdrop is on desktop and wanna know how to run it from location in terminal
[04:36] <^WINBLOWS^> yes
[04:36] <mandeep> /home/username/Desktop
[04:37] <Meltro> afk smoke before TDS
[04:37] <squeakypants> guh
[04:37] <mandeep> didnt work?!
[04:37] <squeakypants> i'm still in 1024x768 for some reason
[04:37] <mandeep> wtf
[04:37] <mandeep> in screen resolution
[04:37] <squeakypants> wtf indeed
[04:38] <mandeep> can u not select it?
[04:38] <squeakypants> in the reconfig?
[04:38] <squeakypants> i set it to 1280x960
[04:38] <mandeep> no
[04:38] <squeakypants> oh the system preferences?
[04:38] <mandeep> in system>user>screen res
[04:38] <mandeep> yya
[04:38] <squeakypants> nope, can't
[04:38] <mandeep> hmmmmm
[04:38] <squeakypants> i only get the 3
[04:38] <mandeep> can ur monitor support it
[04:38] <squeakypants> lol yea
[04:38] <mandeep> hmm
[04:38] <squeakypants> i think it can actually do 1600
[04:39] <mandeep> oh
[04:39] <squeakypants> i use 1280 in windows though, i also did in osx
[04:39] <_3fg> Meltro: can I have some help with manual partition?
[04:39] <mandeep> osx?
[04:39] <Dead_Karma> maybe if i sit here long enough my questions will get answered
[04:39] <dadgumit> squeakypants: you probably need to manually edit xorg.conf
[04:39] <squeakypants> lol, don't worry about it ;)
[04:39] <mandeep> r u running a dell
[04:39] <dadgumit> Dead_Karma questions?
[04:39] <max_> squeakypants: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf you will see and entry for default depth if you look at entry for like depth 24 it will list res you can use
[04:39] <squeakypants> mandeep: yea, why?
[04:39] <mandeep> just wondering
[04:39] <Dead_Karma> yes i repeat
[04:39] <squeakypants> max_ and dadgumit: thanks, I'll do that
[04:39] <Dead_Karma> okay someone told me that i could get stuff for my ipod at the ubuntu repository.  now i would like to know where that is.  also does limewire work with ubuntu, and what do i need for pdf files?
[04:39] <squeakypants> quick question though
[04:40] <mandeep> dead karma
[04:40] <Dead_Karma> yes?
[04:40] <mandeep> amarok will let u use ur ipod
[04:40] <skavenge> Dead_Karma: rhythmbox that comes installed should work for it
[04:40] <mandeep> i believe
[04:40] <dadgumit> Dead_Karma: !frostwire
[04:40] <dadgumit> !frostwire
[04:40] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:40] <squeakypants> is there any software for gnome like the osx dock?
[04:40] <dadgumit> !tell dead_karma about frostwire
[04:40] <mandeep> !fixres
[04:40] <mandeep> hmm
[04:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:40] <_3fg> dadgumit: can you help me now :D?
[04:41] <mandeep> ya
[04:41] <mandeep> squeaky
[04:41] <mandeep> gdesklets has a launcher
[04:41] <mandeep> but it isnt as pretty
[04:41] <squeakypants> k
[04:41] <mandeep> i dont think theres an exact replica of the dock
[04:41] <squeakypants> brb (restarting gnome)
[04:41] <Dead_Karma> thank you, also i was setting here thinking.  is there an easy way to configure my internet?  i don't want to have everything wiped, then find out i messed something up
[04:41] <mandeep> is ur internet not working
[04:41] <mandeep> ?
[04:41] <^WINBLOWS^> ok im trying to do this i open deasktop/eggdrop and when i do so i type install Dest=usr/eggdrop what am i doing wrong?
[04:41] <dadgumit> Dead_Karma google around about the repository, I dont have an Ipod, but you can easily google how to enable more repositories if memory recalls, googling "install anything in ubuntu" will point you right to it
[04:42] <dadgumit> _3fg: what's up?
[04:42] <^WINBLOWS^> oops Desktop
[04:42] <Dead_Karma> thank you
[04:42] <Meltro> back
[04:42] <mandeep> no u type
[04:42] <skavenge> !ipod
[04:42] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[04:42] <skavenge> thats a good link
[04:42] <dadgumit> (I should mention I can't get mine workirng  right, I have just figured out alot in the last few days of troubleshooting
[04:42] <Meltro> _3g: what'cha need
[04:42] <mandeep> open /home/yourusername/Desktop/eggdrop
[04:42] <_3fg> dadgumit: I am forced to make a manual partition because the minimum automatic partition (30gb) errors.
[04:42] <dadgumit> cheers @ skavenge
[04:42] <kdean06> Does anyone have any suggestions for a two way voice and video web cam program that runs on both windows and linux without major problems?
[04:42] <Dead_Karma> well i mean like will that be taken care of during install?  meaning configuring my internet access
[04:42] <_3fg> However, I ahve no idea how to manually partition this
[04:43] <^WINBLOWS^> ahh
[04:43] <_3fg> so, suggestions and walkthroughs will be gladly accepted
[04:43] <squeakypants> it worked! :D
[04:43] <skavenge> i use gtkpod for mine but theres a good amount of programs that will work with ipods
[04:43] <dadgumit> Dead_Karma: you will be able to configure it, but your settings are going to be specific to you
[04:43] <Meltro> _3fg: disk size, what OSes you want, and processor/memory/speed
[04:43] <_3fg> ok
[04:43] <Dead_Karma> okay thank you
[04:43] <mandeep> whatd u do
[04:43] <Meltro> and what you want to work with what
[04:43] <Dead_Karma> i'm going to install ubuntu now.
[04:43] <_3fg> OSes: I have XP, installing Ubuntu 32 bit
[04:43] <skavenge> Dead_Karma: have you tried running the livecd? does internet work in it?
[04:43] <Dead_Karma> hope it works well.  :)
[04:43] <dadgumit> looking for help with X locking up after smp/ acip aicp supprt is enabled
[04:44] <mandeep> squeaky howd u fix it
[04:44] <squeakypants> mandeep: editted xorg.conf
[04:44] <_3fg> 2 hard drives, I want to install it on the slave one
[04:44] <ninpomonkey> do I have to uninstall ubuntu when the regular release comes every six months, or does it upgrade itself when using the update thing?
[04:44] <mandeep> oh ya
[04:44] <dadgumit> Dead_Karma: describeyour hardware I am curious
[04:44] <squeakypants> it only does @60 though, but that's no big deal (i usually put it on 85)
[04:44] <skavenge> ninpomonkey: upgrades itself
[04:44] <Tonren> Hey all, has anyone gotten soudn to work in Wine?
[04:44] <Dead_Karma> i just wanted to know these things before i did something i couldn't back out of.  i'll be back to let ya know how it worked
[04:44] <ninpomonkey> skavenge_ ah, cool :)
[04:44] <Dead_Karma> old outdated
[04:44] <dadgumit> ninpomonkey update is pretty easy actually, there are a few methods, the one I did required no uninstall
[04:44] <_3fg> Athlon 3000+ 2ghz, 1 gig of ram
[04:44] <TokenBad> I use sudo apt-get install netspeed and it installed...but now I can't find it anywhere to start it
[04:44] <Dead_Karma> bbl
[04:44] <_3fg> Meltro: is that enough information?
[04:45] <Meltro> yep
[04:45] <skavenge> ninpomonkey: i find fresh installs better myself with new releases but it will update
[04:45] <dadgumit> dead_karma: you should try the live cd, doesn't always work, but mostely does
[04:45] <dadgumit> you can install from it
[04:45] <mandeep> u can change it to 85
[04:45] <Meltro> _3fg: ok, say, 2gb swap, 4 if you're a multitasker
[04:45] <ninpomonkey> skavenge: ok
[04:45] <Meltro> how big is the slave?
[04:45] <skavenge> TokenBad: alt+f2 type 'netspeed'
[04:45] <_3fg> 80gb
[04:45] <dadgumit> Meltro: that swap is huge
[04:45] <_3fg> can we take this to a query or another channel?
[04:45] <TokenBad> if your talking about in terminal I did
[04:45] <skavenge> TokenBad: and?
[04:46] <Meltro> dadgumit: I'm big on multitasking. 2.5% of a relatively small drive is hardly overkill
[04:46] <dadgumit> looking for help with X, locking up on me
[04:46] <dadgumit> Meltro: each his own
[04:46] <TokenBad> skavenge, says not found...but I know its installed
[04:46] <Meltro> _3fg: ok, what are you trying to use to partition?
[04:46] <ae101> can anyone help me install live cd? i dont know what to do =)
[04:46] <mandeep> what irc client do u guys use
[04:46] <_3fg> Meltro: can we query or take this to another channel?
[04:47] <Meltro> _3fg: sure
[04:47] <TokenBad> I use xchat
[04:47] <Meltro> _3fg: hit mah
[04:47] <_3fg> which?
[04:47] <skavenge> TokenBad: 'whereis netspeed' or 'slocate netspeed'
[04:47] <Meltro> query
[04:47] <dadgumit> ae101, pop it in your drive and boot (set it to boot from cd in bios if it isn't set up alread)
[04:47] <Meltro> thanks for asking
[04:47] <squeakypants> i'm just using xchat
[04:47] <TokenBad> skavenge, I figured if did apt-get install it would be like the others...but nope
[04:47] <mandeep> what do i type to get someones name
[04:47] <mandeep> automatically
[04:48] <mandeep> like in mirc u press tab
[04:48] <mandeep> oh it is tab
[04:48] <mandeep> wow
[04:48] <TokenBad> mandeep, I use tab
[04:48] <TokenBad> heheh
[04:48] <mandeep> haha
[04:48] <mandeep> oops
[04:48] <ae101> dadgumit, did that, [DR-Dos]  appears, whats next ? =)
[04:48] <mandeep> i like how in xchat if some1 says ur name it appears in red
[04:48] <ChakRa> ~__~
[04:48] <Bo> hi i was installing the nvidia-glx-dev driver and it corrupted my x interface so now everything is command line
[04:49] <mandeep> that sux
[04:49] <Bo> how do i fix it?
[04:49] <skavenge> TokenBad: did you try 'whereis netspeed' or 'slocate netspeed'
[04:49] <Bo> no
[04:49] <Bo> im new to linux
[04:49] <TokenBad> skavenge, yeah it posted a few results....but not sure which is the program
[04:49] <mandeep> bo
[04:49] <Bo> yeah
[04:49] <mandeep> can u start ubuntu in safe mode
[04:49] <Bo> what should i do?
[04:50] <Bo> yeah
[04:50] <Bo> recovery mode
[04:50] <mandeep> is that command line?
[04:50] <skavenge> TokenBad: any in /usr/bin/ or and bin directory?
[04:50] <Bo> no i can chose recovery mode
[04:50] <Bo> during startup
[04:50] <mandeep> and that restarts into gnome right?
[04:50] <mandeep> with safe defaults
[04:50] <chiefinnovator> can I make a shortcut on my desktop that will open up this chat room?
[04:50] <TokenBad> skavenge, seems to be in /usr/lib/netspeed
[04:50] <squeakypants> whats the fastest way to install flash?
[04:51] <Bo> not sure havent tried
[04:51] <Bo> after i start in safe mode what should i do?
[04:51] <squeakypants> should I just use the installer on their site or is there an easier way (.deb or something)?
[04:51] <mandeep> how knew are you to linux
[04:51] <mandeep> new
[04:51] <Bo> very
[04:51] <Bo> 1st wk
[04:51] <skavenge> TokenBad: well thats not an executable, something needs to be in a bin dir somewhere
[04:51] <chiefinnovator> very
[04:51] <squeakypants> well
[04:51] <TokenBad> skavenge, but I can't get it to run...did the ./netspeed_applet2 but nothing
[04:51] <mandeep> hmm
[04:51] <_3fg> Meltro: have you disappeared?
[04:51] <Bo> but i got lots of programs on it
[04:51] <squeakypants> I haven't used it in a long time, but I'm not new
[04:51] <mandeep> oh
[04:51] <Meltro> no, I've query'd you three times
[04:51] <ae101> after booting with the live cd, would it automatically install itself? or i need to ype some commands?
[04:51] <mandeep> so thats y u dont want to format
[04:51] <squeakypants> but I haven't used it in a 1-2 years
[04:51] <Bo> yeah
[04:52] <mandeep> hmm
[04:52] <cparker> Is there a Dapper package available for Gaim 2 beta 3?
[04:52] <_3fg> Meltro: ok, how about another channel or AIM or something
[04:52] <mandeep> my guess is go back into recovery mode
[04:52] <mandeep> and reconfigure X
[04:52] <Meltro> ok, join #3fghelp
[04:52] <mandeep> actually
[04:52] <baconbacon> ubotu tell cparker about gaim2
[04:52] <SeraVitae> Hi there, I have 3 graphics cards in my computer, ubuntu is freaking out when i put the live cd in, X won't come up and crashes
[04:53] <Bo> is there a code that i can run?
[04:53] <baconbacon> !tell cparker about gaim2
[04:53] <skavenge> TokenBad: dpkg -L netspeed will tell you where everything was installed, there has to be a executable .. or try man netspeed
[04:53] <mandeep> in command all u have to type is  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:53] <mandeep> and that should go back to ur normal settings
[04:53] <TokenBad> skavenge, I tried man netspeed...says no manual
[04:53] <cparker> Woohoo! Thanks :)
[04:53] <Bo> ok thanks ill try it
[04:53] <baconbacon> why does ubotu doesnt confirm "told abc about xyz" ?
[04:53] <baconbacon> anymore
[04:53] <SeraVitae> The problem seems to be that two of the pci video cards 'fight' with each other and need to be turned on in an appropriate sequence
[04:53] <mandeep> ?
[04:54] <noway-> hi, I just installed ubuntu, and I updated all the packages.  When I try to apt-get something, it comes up with errors about gnome-applet
[04:54] <Madpilot> baconbacon, the bot's been updated, it doesn't do the 'told x about y' thing anymore
[04:54] <mandeep> noway-,  whats the error
[04:54] <SeraVitae> problem is the pci-express graphics card (which is set to primary in the bios) is not detected by the x configuration.
[04:54] <baconbacon> ok, im never sure it did tell
[04:54] <skavenge> TokenBad: what about netspeed-applet?
[04:55] <noway-> mandeep: its quite the error, is there a place to paste?
[04:55] <baconbacon> noway-: paste the error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:55] <mandeep> hmm
[04:55] <noway-> thanks
[04:55] <TheGame> how do i create a channel
[04:56] <noway-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18257
[04:56] <klees> how can i tell what process is using my bandwidth???
[04:56] <TheGame> ya
[04:56] <TheGame> wow
[04:56] <TheGame> that is quite the rrror
[04:56] <MTecknology> OK, I got to the point of just making a new keymap - now - can somebody PLEASE tell me how to interepret data coming from a joystick on an LPT1 port?
[04:56] <hawkaloogie> TheGame, just join it
[04:57] <TokenBad> how do I restart the panels in ubuntu without rebooting?
[04:57] <TheGame> i did join it hawkaloogie
[04:57] <TheGame> but it said
[04:57] <TheGame> the channel doesnt exist
[04:57] <SeraVitae> I get a 'Failed to start the x server" error.
[04:57] <hawkaloogie> TheGame, /cs help register
[04:57] <MTecknology> TokenBad Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[04:57] <dli> klees, netstat -na|less
[04:57] <TheGame> oh i need to register
[04:57] <skiddex> dapper drake won't load ubuntu only kubuntu -- amd k-7.  Anyone know why gnome won't go?
[04:57] <SeraVitae> "fatal server error, screen(s) found but none have a usable configuration"
[04:57] <noway-> MTecknology: does that kill all x processes?
[04:58] <TheGame> tokenbad
[04:58] <baconbacon> noway-: try sudo apt-get -f install. if it doesnt work, sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-applets-data gnome-applets
[04:58] <dli> SeraVitae, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:58] <TheGame> bbl
[04:58] <SeraVitae> ok
[04:58] <noway-> baconbacon: thanks, I will give it a shot
[04:58] <SeraVitae> dli - i should mention i have 3 graphics cards in this pc.
[04:58] <MTecknology> noway- i'm not sure i think it just restarts all x sessions
[04:59] <klees> what's /tmp/orbit-...?
[04:59] <TokenBad> well no dice after that
[04:59] <TokenBad> still not find netspeed
[04:59] <noway-> baconbacon: hrm, no luck, I even get the same error when trying to reinstall the packages
[04:59] <SeraVitae> dli - xserver-xorg just found one of the PCI video cards, not the PCI express card or the other pci card.
[04:59] <dadgumit>  anyone know about X locking up?
[05:00] <skiddex> ubuntu dd just hangs at black screen on k6 k7 -- curerntly on ddlive kde with k6
[05:00] <baconbacon> noway-: sorry i got to go, power is going down here
[05:00] <baconbacon> gl
[05:00] <noway-> np, thanks
[05:00] <TokenBad> now I can't remove netspeed
[05:00] <TokenBad> I did sudo apt-get remove netspeed and it gives me an error
[05:01] <skiddex> acpi=off doesn't work on k6/k7 for me
[05:01] <Madpilot> skiddex, using the k6 kernel or the generic 386 kernel?
[05:01] <tjb891> ok, i have a belkin usb wireless adapter with the rt2500usb.inf driver, can anyone tell me how to set it up with ndiswrapper, i can't get it to work
[05:01] <skiddex> the generic couldn't find one for k6
[05:01] <dadgumit> skiddex try noapci nolapci et...
[05:01] <skiddex> on the site that is
[05:01] <dadgumit> !acpi
[05:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about acpi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:02] <skiddex> i did it just kept hanging
[05:02] <dadgumit> where's it hang?
[05:02] <skiddex> that's why i went to kde :)
[05:02] <TheGame> kde sucks
[05:02] <Madpilot> skiddex, odd, I've got an XP-M cpu (k6) and Ubuntu runs perfectly
[05:02] <tjb891> isn't kde sloweer
[05:02] <Cntryboy> Snoops_: ya still here man
[05:03] <three> hi everyone
[05:03] <TheGame> its slower if u dont have 1gb ram
[05:03] <skiddex> well i am running this live so not ready to install just yet
[05:03] <skavenge> plz
[05:03] <skavenge> set it up right it runs just as fast as gnome
[05:03] <skiddex> i use livecd's alot for tshooting
[05:03] <TheGame> i do like kde in knoppix
[05:04] <SeraVitae> dli: i did a reconfigure, and restarted gdm, but still the same thing. it's only detecting 1 out of 3 video cards.
[05:04] <three> I was wondering how to change the Gnome start up music
[05:04] <skavenge> im on a 1.4ghz 512 meg machine and kde runs like glass
[05:04] <Cntryboy> Kde is better than gnome I think
[05:04] <Cntryboy> Hey anyone here use xvidcap?
[05:04] <dli> SeraVitae, lspci
[05:04] <squeakypants> i haven't used linux in a long time, how do i install something from source?
[05:04] <tjb891> kde is good for application heavy stuff, but a normal user dosen't use all the tools in knoppix
[05:04] <Cntryboy> make
[05:04] <Cntryboy> sudo make install
[05:04] <skiddex> it is easier to get kde to run than gnome -- that is from experience
[05:04] <squeakypants> ah, i didn't sudo
[05:04] <squeakypants> thanks
[05:04] <Cntryboy> might wanna ./configure first
[05:04] <Cntryboy> np
[05:05] <dli> squeakypants, first, whether you have to install from source? is it already in ubuntu?
[05:05] <SeraVitae> dli - i see 2x nvidia geforece4 mx 4000's (pci) and my ati radeon x600.
[05:05] <tjb891> i know my wireless kard works in kubuntu but not in ubuntu
[05:05] <squeakypants> cntryboy: it says command not found
[05:05] <Cntryboy> for ./configure
[05:05] <Cntryboy> ?
[05:05] <squeakypants> dli: it isn't, I'm trying to install akamaru
[05:05] <squeakypants> no, for make
[05:05] <SeraVitae> the cards are there, it's just that x seems to only autodetect the pci one, which i know for a fact that the cards destabilize the system unless the PCI-express card is initialised first
[05:05] <dli> SeraVitae, then, you can read bus IDs from " lspci|grep -i vga"
[05:05] <TokenBad> what is this: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[05:06] <Madpilot> squeakypants, you need to install build-essential, it's got all the compile stuff
[05:06] <TheGame> sounds like u need a perl module
[05:06] <squeakypants> madpilot: thanks
[05:06] <MTecknology> how do I make an empty .gz file?
[05:06] <Vegancheesesteak> hi all im an ubuntu noob....should i have the community supported security update repository selected in synaptic?
[05:06] <Cntryboy> what he said ^
[05:06] <skiddex> oh well i am happy enough i will just use kde on amd and gnome on intel
[05:06] <Madpilot> Vegancheesesteak, yes
[05:06] <Cntryboy> ya gotta get the build-essentials first
[05:06] <skiddex> thanks for the advice
[05:07] <skavenge> skiddex: lol mines the exact opposite, kde on my intel and gnome on my amd ;)
[05:07] <Cntryboy> Anyone here ever used xvidcap?
[05:07] <SeraVitae> dli:  got em. do i just do another x-server config againwith the new pci address?
[05:07] <TheGame> any1 know how to mount an iso
[05:07] <Vegancheesesteak> Madpilot, thanks...still trying to figure all this out...very odd coming from fedora
[05:07] <caturOK> hm
[05:07] <dli> TheGame, mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt/foo
[05:07] <caturOK> good morning indonesia
[05:07] <caturOK> ;))
[05:08] <caturOK> how do u do
[05:08] <skiddex> lol go figure -- that's linux for you lol
[05:08] <dli> TheGame, of course, you need the mount point before that
[05:08] <Madpilot> Vegancheesesteak, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[05:08] <skiddex> bye
[05:08] <yggdrasi1> i name all my isos foo
[05:08] <TheGame> ya i know how to setup the mound point
[05:08] <squeakypants> madpilot: where do i download it? it didn't work with apt-get...
[05:08] <dli> TheGame, mkdir
[05:08] <TheGame> let  me see if that command works
[05:08] <TokenBad> anyone know what is this: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[05:08] <TheGame> my mount point is /media/iso
[05:09] <Madpilot> squeakypants, build-essential? do "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[05:09] <max_> anyone here have wireless proxim orinoco pcmcia card working in dapper?
[05:09] <squeakypants> i did...
[05:09] <squeakypants> there we go, i tried it a second time and it worked
[05:09] <QMario> Hello Madpilot!!! :)
[05:09] <Madpilot> hi QMario
[05:09] <viktor> hola
[05:09] <mborohovski> how can i print to a windows printer? i added it as an SMB printer and made sure the workgroup is the same in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:09] <mborohovski> did i miss something?
[05:10] <viktor> algun latinio?
[05:10] <TheGame> thanks dli it worked
[05:10] <SeraVitae> dli: okay cool, thanks, i got the main card working so far.
[05:11] <noway-> hey guys
[05:11] <viktor> hi
[05:11] <SeraVitae> what's the name of the graphic partition editor? dpart somethign?
[05:11] <noway-> I am still having problems with the gnome-applets-data packing when using apt-get
[05:11] <Bo> ok i entered sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg into recovery mode and my x interface is still broken
[05:11] <noway-> I can't remove or reinstall it, it yeilds the same error
[05:11] <^WINBLOWS^> in file system the folder usr if i wanna install something there its install Dest=home/my user name here/usr/eggdrop right?
[05:12] <Cntryboy> I need some help telling xvidcap to encode all my frame files into one video.. I hit make video and it does nothing. Any suggestions?
[05:12] <^WINBLOWS^> if so nothing happens
[05:12] <Cntryboy> combine rather
[05:12] <Bo> how do i fix my x interface? it broke after i installed nvidia-glx-dev
[05:12] <Bo> i originally had nvidia-glx
[05:12] <Bo> but i changed it to dev
[05:12] <noway-> I have been searching google for any problems with gnome-applets-data, and have had no luck
[05:13] <harry> how do you open the wine file???
[05:13] <mborohovski> anyone know how to setup printing to a windows xp printer? i followed the doc, but no dice. help?
[05:13] <Cntryboy> Bo: dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <Cntryboy> Bo: sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <^WINBLOWS^> in file system the folder usr if i wanna install something there its install Dest=home/my user name here/usr/eggdrop right?
[05:13] <Bo> yeah i typed that into recovery mode
[05:13] <Cntryboy> go through the steps
[05:13] <krism> !repeat
[05:13] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:13] <Cntryboy> and choose vesa or nv
[05:14] <Cntryboy> to get u back in
[05:14] <Bo> ok thanks
[05:14] <noway-> here is the error I was getting, and it comes with any apt-get command i use, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18257
[05:14] <orge> when did 'liquid-cooling' start?
[05:14] <Cntryboy> np
[05:14] <orge> about 2003?
[05:14] <orge> or became famous
[05:14] <noway-> 2002-2003ish?
[05:14] <orge> ic
[05:14] <pvh__> I have an up to date Dapper which I just changed video cards on.
[05:14] <mborohovski> !patience
[05:14] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:15] <harry> how do you open the wine file???
[05:15] <Cntryboy> krism: who did you type that 2
[05:15] <squeakypants> if I installed something through git, how do I launch it? it won't launch when i put in its name but git says its installed
[05:15] <pvh__> Now that it's running without a screen attached, freenx won't start. Is there some way to find out why freenx isn't working any more?
[05:15] <ChakRa> harry : e.g sudo wine /home/user/utorrent/utorrent.exe
[05:16] <ChakRa> or sudo wine if you just want to configure it
[05:16] <noway-> Can anyone tell me what exactly gnome schemas are?
[05:16] <noway-> it looks like they may be widgets for the interface
[05:17] <^WINBLOWS^> can someone pls pls pls help me
[05:17] <^WINBLOWS^> goin nuts here
[05:17] <offroadgeek> can I safely compile a kernel (after configuring it with specific modules) on one machine and install it on a different machine?
[05:17] <noway-> The error I hav ebeen receiving contains a list of about 10 *.schema files with in the /usr/share/gconf/schemas directory
[05:18] <dli> offroadgeek, yes, if the hardware there is supported
[05:18] <MTecknology> Is there nobody in here that knows anything about snes emulating??? I need help and I've searched google as far as I can.
[05:18] <offroadgeek> dli: thanks
[05:18] <offroadgeek> machine one is a dell optiplex and machine two is an oqo 01+
[05:19] <dli> offroadgeek, doesn't matter, you need " lspci" to figure out
[05:19] <offroadgeek> dli: what does lspci mean?
[05:19] <dli> offroadgeek, man lspci
[05:19] <GuardianAtomos> Or is there a way to monitor network traffic to/from the server easily? Maybe an application?
[05:19] <^WINBLOWS^> what am i doing wrong install Dest=home/my user name/usr/eggdrop
[05:20] <simcop2387> anyone know a linux firewall/iptables frontend that also has a web interface?
[05:20] <offroadgeek> dli: did that... thanks!
[05:20] <^WINBLOWS^> fuck this
[05:20] <offroadgeek> dli: so they need to match for that to work?
[05:21] <winman> what's the package name for tux racer for dapper?
[05:21] <dli> offroadgeek, you need the drivers for ide/scsi, file systems at least, or you need initrd
[05:21] <Bo> ok im back to my account and now im trying to install nvidia-glx-dev again but it has to remove them first and it wont let me
[05:22] <noway-> oh I have it figured out
[05:22] <noway-> I had to reinstall the gnome-applets, and it worked
[05:23] <offroadgeek> dli: so if the IDA bridges on the two machines are from different manufacturers, then it won't work?
[05:23] <offroadgeek> dli: oops ... ISA bridges
[05:23] <dli> offroadgeek, go to kernel configuration, read help
[05:23] <Bo> my xinterface crashed because i installed nvidia-glx-dev after i installed nvidia-glx and now im using nv and i want to install nvidia-glx-dev only and it wont let me
[05:23] <Bo> because it says that it depends on nvidia-glx
[05:24] <offroadgeek> dl
[05:24] <offroadgeek> dli: ok... thanks
[05:24] <Bo> any advice?
[05:24] <TokenBad> I give up...I downloaded the netspeed source file...and it gives me error when I try ./configure
[05:25] <Madpilot> TokenBad, you know that netspeed is in repos, right?
[05:25] <TokenBad> Madpilot, I tried that...
[05:25] <TokenBad> also wouldn't work
[05:26] <Bo> will xgl work if i only downloaded the nvidia-glx driver instead of the nvidia-glx-dev driver?
[05:26] <Madpilot> meh... I know zip about it, just wanted to make sure you know it was already compiled :)
[05:26] <DBO> Bo, yes, you dont need -dev
[05:27] <Bo> ok thanks alot cuz dev crashed my xinterface
[05:27] <Cntryboy> I need some help telling xvidcap to combine all my frame files into one video.. I hit make video and it does nothing. Any suggestions?
[05:28] <TokenBad> Madpilot, yeah I had that figured out...and tried it through apt-get install netspeed and it seemed like it installed it...but then the files couldn't be found
[05:28] <TokenBad> then when tried to remove it..it errored
[05:32] <bintut> is there any other ubuntu channel where i can ask questions related to amd64?
[05:32] <tristanmike> I assume the ATI proprietary drives apply to laptops too, am I right in assuming ?
[05:33] <verbose> tristanmike: yes they do
[05:33] <caturOK> how to make dns to my intranet
[05:33] <caturOK> can somebody help me plz
[05:33] <caturOK> damn i'm so poor about dns
[05:35] <Burrito> evening all
[05:35] <Burrito> is it possible to set up a terminal services type service on ubuntu?
[05:36] <Burrito> so I can remote desktop to my ubuntu machine?
[05:36] <Burrito> from a windoze machine?
[05:36] <spades> vnc viewer not enough?
[05:36] <TokenBad> anyone here got netspeed to work
[05:36] <Burrito> just uber slow
[05:36] <Burrito> was hoping for a  little bit faster option
[05:36] <krism> Burrito: try xtightvncserver/viewer
[05:37] <Burrito> that's different that the krfb one?
[05:38] <VeraLinn> Hi! I'm new in linux. Can somebody help me with setting up my TV TUNER?
[05:38] <regeya> !ask
[05:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:38] <^WINBLOWS^> !pastebin
[05:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:39] <regeya> !tell VeraLinn about ask
[05:39] <VeraLinn> I have card=78 and tuner=5
[05:39] <regeya> um.
[05:39] <VeraLinn> i'v tried with modeprobe, had pic no sound
[05:39] <rixth> !mp3
[05:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:40] <regeya> that's an odd brand/chipset...'card=78'
[05:40] <Burrito> !vnc
[05:40] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[05:40] <Burrito> !freenx
[05:40] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[05:40] <regeya> okay fellers and gals...just because I used the bot for a legitimate reason is no reason to abuse the bod
[05:40] <regeya> bot
[05:40] <caturOK> rndc: connect failed: connection refused <---- why my bind9 say like this
[05:40] <regeya> gruh
[05:40] <^WINBLOWS^> someone pls look at this and tell me what im doing wrong?
[05:40] <^WINBLOWS^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18259
[05:40] <caturOK> what's the problem
[05:41] <Burrito> I was using it legitimately too :S
[05:41] <squeakypants> how do i install a .deb?
[05:41] <elmago55> IDL
[05:41] <VeraLinn> it's a kworld tv-prr 878
[05:41] <squeakypants> easy question ;)
[05:41] <regeya> lol ^WINBLOWS^ you want newb help installing eggdrop...lots of luck with that
[05:41] <regeya> ^WINBLOWS^: probably should do apt-get install eggdrop
[05:42] <squeakypants> are you talking to me?
[05:42] <squeakypants> oh nvm
[05:42] <^WINBLOWS^> i did that BUT its missing half the files when i do it
[05:42] <Crane> sudo dpkg -i <name of debfile>
[05:42] <elmago55> System exeption:IDL.omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0    what means this?
[05:42] <regeya> I should go to bed
[05:42] <squeakypants> lol didn't realize winblows was a person
[05:42] <squeakypants> crane: thank you
[05:42] <elmago55> hi
[05:42] <^WINBLOWS^> hehe
[05:42] <elmago55>  System exeption:IDL.omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0    what means this
[05:42] <regeya> squeakypants: when I address you thusly, that's when I'm talking to you
[05:42] <Crane> ;)
[05:42] <Mattchewie> :D
[05:42] <TokenBad> using apt-get how do I have it install the dependacys with a program?
[05:43] <regeya> squeakypants: if you have a fairly normal irc client, this will be denoted in a different way to let you know that I have, in fact, spoken to you.
[05:43] <nevyn> TokenBad: that's kinda what apt-get does
[05:43] <squeakypants> yup, i know, but some people don't do that :-p
[05:43] <Madpilot> TokenBad, apt-get should handle the depends auto-magically
[05:43] <elmago55> hi, help me please
[05:43] <elmago55> System exeption:IDL.omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0    what means this?
[05:43] <SeraVitae> i just mounted my ntfs drive, all files/folders are root root, what should i be changing that to, so that my standard user can access the files?
[05:43] <TokenBad> hmm...well why is it that netspeed will not work
[05:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SeraVitae about ntfs
[05:44] <elmago55> Hi
[05:44] <caturOK> gooss
[05:44] <elmago55> help
[05:44] <Crane> hello
[05:44] <elmago55> System exeption:IDL.omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0    what means this?
[05:44] <caturOK> nobody here help me
[05:44] <elmago55> can you help me?
[05:44] <elmago55> System exeption:IDL.omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0    what means this?
[05:44] <Crane> What were you doing at time of error
[05:44] <^WINBLOWS^> is there someone i can send screen shots to of what im talking about.....when i install apt-get eggdrop missing half the files and 1 on desktop is full program?
[05:44] <Crane> do not keep posting it
[05:44] <ubuntu> how do you log in to a windows domaine?
[05:45] <Madpilot> ^WINBLOWS^, pastebin the screenshot
[05:45] <^WINBLOWS^> ok
[05:45] <^WINBLOWS^> ty
[05:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ^WINBLOWS^ about pastebin
[05:45] <vikas> HI
[05:45] <elmago55> Hi System exeption:IDL.omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0    what means this?
[05:45] <vikas> could some one tell me how to install apache/php/phpmyadmin/mysql
[05:45] <vikas> on Ubuntu hoary
[05:45] <VeraLinn> Has anyone 2 minutes to help me in private, I can't keep the step with this :(
[05:46] <PeregrineSky> is there a net-install for ubuntu?
[05:46] <SeraVitae> hm, why isn't my network card working. >:(
[05:46] <Crane> that a vague question
[05:47] <jones20992> how do you log in to a windows domaine?
[05:47] <RixiM> is there a way to automatically generate a kernel config based on what hardware is actually in my system?
[05:47] <Madpilot> vikas, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:48] <SeraVitae> whats the command to bring down hardware/bring it back up again?
[05:48] <MTecknology> Madpilot, can I pm you with a problem?
[05:48] <SeraVitae> network card needs a refresh i think
[05:48] <RShadow> how can I assign the root user a random password (the default under ubuntu)? (my particular setup doesn't do this because its a remote server)
[05:48] <VeraLinn> Where can I find written step by step where to write those numbers for my TV TUMER if I know them
[05:48] <^WINBLOWS^> ok silly qustion how to do a screen shot
[05:48] <Crane> printscreen button
[05:49] <Madpilot> MTecknology, asking in channel is probably better, unless it's the sort of problem that needs a channel op's attention...
[05:49] <jones20992> ubotu tell jones20992 about windows
[05:49] <^WINBLOWS^> i know windows is ctrl and print screen and then ctrl paste to paint
[05:49] <MTecknology> Madpilot, it almoast needs a staffers attn. but I want to ask you first
[05:49] <Madpilot> ^WINBLOWS^, just hit the Print screen key
[05:49] <^WINBLOWS^> ok
[05:49] <yggdrasi1> hmm.
[05:49] <Madpilot> MTecknology, then by all means, PM me
[05:49] <Crane> yep not ctrl
[05:49] <Crane> just printscreen
[05:50] <Crane> I thingk ctrl print scraan is just active window
[05:50] <Crane> screen
[05:50] <VeraLinn> thank 's anyway
[05:51] <yggdrasi1> when i got this laptop i resized the windows partition to 10 gigs gave my linux partion 15 gigs and made a 15 gig storeage partition.. im wondering what it would take to keep everything(in linux) just like it is and have my 15 gb linux part and a 25 gb ext3 storeage partition and just erase the windows partition.
[05:51] <thejnaitor> hey guys... I'm having a problem with video drivers and wonder if somebody could assist me?
[05:51] <three> hey does anyone know hoe to change the gnome start up sound
[05:51] <thejnaitor> I get the nvidia splash screen when starting up, but when I do glxinfo|grep render , it returns No
[05:52] <Crane> yggdrasi just format the partition and mount it somewhere in linux
[05:53] <Crane> three:  look under sounds in preferances
[05:53] <^WINBLOWS^> guess it dont let me do 2 at a time so heres from the usr/share/eggdrop folder (installed from apt-get command)
[05:53] <^WINBLOWS^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i18260
[05:53] <^WINBLOWS^> while ya look at that ill send shot of same folder from desktop
[05:55] <^WINBLOWS^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18261 heres from desktop
[05:55] <RixiM> is there an automatic kernel configurator?
[05:56] <three> are there any Gnome geeks in here?
[05:56] <SeraVitae> not automatic i dont think.. but there's menuconfig
[05:56] <SeraVitae> and an x configurator for kernel options
[05:56] <SeraVitae> which is pretty quick and easy to use.
[05:56] <Crane> three:  what are you looking for
[05:56] <Crane>  this place is full of geeks
[05:56] <Crane> lol
[05:56] <SeraVitae> Anyone know the command for configuring network adaptors? there's a menu based one
[05:57] <three> id like to change the startup sound
[05:57] <^WINBLOWS^> i dont understand why the 1 in usr/share/eggdrop is not the full program and 1 i d/l from the net is full and uts the same thing
[05:57] <Sir_Fawnpug> Crane, heresy. I would much rather prefer to be called a nerd, thank you.
[05:57] <^WINBLOWS^> its*
[05:57] <Bonez> I installed KDE using sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but now I have changed my mind and want to remove it so I have a gnome only install. Is there a simple way to remove it?
[05:57] <Crane> three: select preferences sounds
[05:57] <Crane> lol @ Sir_Fawnpug
[05:58] <aro-ron> hey all, got a question for you, how well do you think ubuntu will run on a AMD-K6 laptop?
[05:58] <spades> aro-ron i ran 5.10 xubuntu on a k6 450mhz, 128mb ram one
[05:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> aro-ron, it might run pretty well if you get rid of gnome on it.
[05:58] <infeld> aro-ron: how much RAM?
[05:58] <three> thanks crane
[05:58] <Crane> what speed and how much memory, what type vid card
[05:58] <aro-ron> I got 128 on here
[05:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> And run something like fluxbox.
[05:58] <Lord_Athur> i all, what do i have to do to become ubuntero in launchpad?
[05:58] <Crane> no prob
[05:58] <aro-ron> but ma be able to up it, havent checked yet
[05:58] <infeld> aro-ron: try xubuntu instead
[05:58] <aro-ron> its a 300 Mhz
[05:59] <spades> aro-ron *box or xfce should run ok, if you got the skills, do a minimal command line install and then install x and your wm/de
[05:59] <aro-ron> oh duh, of course...
[05:59] <RixiM> what does xconfig depend on? it say qt... which qt package does that refer to?
[05:59] <ron_o> I must say that xubuntu really flies compared to ubuntu on my system.
[05:59] <ironfroggy_LT> what is the "32gnome_power_management" which the install runs?
[05:59] <aro-ron> well, its trying to boot the live ubuntu right now
[05:59] <aro-ron> but I may go get xubuntu later on
[05:59] <Bonez> I installed KDE using sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but now I have changed my mind and want to remove it so I have a gnome only install. Is there a simple way to remove it?
[05:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> Crane, and this is somebody who is delighted with ecstacy that he got his wacom tablet working with modular x. Oh the joy!
[05:59] <billt> anyone here use ubuntu?
[06:00] <ron_o> live ubuntu is really slow on an old computer.
[06:00] <SeraVitae> Hey, i just mounted an ntfs drive with 'mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/files' (no user/grp arguments), my other user gets access denied, what user/group permissions should i set so that everyone can access it?
[06:00] <ron_o> almost unuseable.
[06:00] <Bonez> billt, no, we all use redhat
[06:00] <aro-ron> yeah I know
[06:00] <^WINBLOWS^> anyone checked out my screen shots and has answers?
[06:00] <aro-ron> but its booting so far
[06:00] <billt> ty
[06:00] <ironfroggy_LT> ron_o: no kidding. takes me almost an hour to get the install to start running.
[06:00] <Cntryboy> !xvidcap
[06:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about xvidcap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:00] <Bonez> !kde
[06:00] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:00] <Cntryboy> I need some help telling xvidcap to combine all my frame files into one video.. I hit make video and it does nothing. Any suggestions?
[06:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> Bonez, believe it or not I'm running gentoo on my main. Ubuntu's on my laptop
[06:00] <aro-ron> how different if xubuntu than ubuntu? cause I rather like Gnome
[06:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> aro-ron, if I'm not mistaken xubuntu has xfce.
[06:01] <Crane> billt has provided a dunb question for us to debate
[06:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> Instead of gnome.
[06:01] <aro-ron> right
[06:01] <ron_o> Sir_Fawnpug, it does.
[06:01] <SeraVitae> where can i see a list of groups and users?
[06:01] <Bonez> Sir_Fawnpug, I run dapper on both, never used gentoo :)
[06:01] <aro-ron> but how different than gnome is xfce, I have never used it
[06:01] <SeraVitae> n/m
[06:01] <Bonez> anyone know how to remove KDE?
[06:01] <ron_o> you can always install gnome if you like... :)
[06:01] <billt> i switched to linux and i dunno the first thing about it
[06:01] <Bonez> is tehre a simple way to do it?
[06:01] <Cntryboy> aro-ron: you like kde? kubuntu
[06:01] <infeld> ABOUT Softphone Ekiga> Where can I find rates for PC-to-phone calls??
[06:01] <Cntryboy> what I use
[06:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> Bonez, running gentoo on my athlon64 and my ultrasparc IIi.
[06:01] <three> aro-ron: its way different
[06:01] <billt> debate awau
[06:01] <aro-ron> cntryboy, I tried KDE, almost killed my ubuntu
[06:02] <Bonez> Sir_Fawnpug, nice. Dapper on my AMD64 but still running the 32bu5t
[06:02] <Snoops_> why'd you switch billt just curiosity?
[06:02] <Bonez> 32 bit version
[06:02] <ron_o> aro-ron, it's different but useable.
[06:02] <Cntryboy> kde: I think is better than gnome lol
[06:02] <Lord_Athur> i all, what do i have to do to become ubuntero in launchpad?
[06:02] <ron_o> it's really complete as far as I'm concerned, but YMMV.
[06:02] <billt> no, just tired of the microsoft crap
[06:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> Bonez, I'm running the 32bit emulation layer on this machine, with firefox32.
[06:02] <aro-ron> yeah, KDE is ok, but too much like windows. Gnome is nice and fresh for a winborg like me
[06:02] <Cntryboy> how did ya almost kill ubuntu with kde?
[06:02] <jones20992> how do you log in to a  domaine?
[06:02] <Bonez> guys i want to remove KDE, but kubuntu-desktop is just a dummy package. is there an easy way to remove KDE and all the otehr crap it installs? :)
[06:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> Until adobe starts caring about flash again.
[06:02] <Snoops_> billt k, how you finding it?
[06:02] <aro-ron> I dont know how I killed it, but it didnt load right anymore
[06:03] <aro-ron> well, almost killed it
[06:03] <Bonez> Sir_Fawnpug, yeah I have a HDTV card and a few other interesting pieces of hardware so I wont go down the 64bit road just yet
[06:03] <infeld> billt: you are at the channel named "ubuntu". pretty much everybody runs ubuntu linux. to learn about the competition, go to #opensuse, #fedora, #xandros, #mandriva, #gentoo, or #linspire
[06:03] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Is there a google earth .deb package?
[06:03] <Cntryboy> I'm not knocking gnome I liked it also, but things seem like they work better for me with kde
[06:03] <sysrpl> i've about had enough of linux ... it's graphicalui is too fragile an buggy
[06:03] <aro-ron> I manages to get it to load gnome again, and used aptidude toget rid of it
[06:03] <billt> i love it but i cant get java installed
[06:03] <Bonez> jrattner1, google earth is easy, just download and sh ./googleearthinstall.bin
[06:03] <aro-ron> google earth for linux roxorz
[06:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> Cntryboy, really I detest both (although I like gdm), but I think gnome has more brownie points imho.
[06:03] <jrattner1> bobslaede, k
[06:04] <Snoops_> !java > billt
[06:04] <^WINBLOWS^> does anyone have an answer for me about my screen shots,ect?
[06:04] <Bonez> aro-ron, yes sir. it runs so much nicer than on windoze :D
[06:04] <Snoops_> that should sort you out for getting java up and running billt
[06:04] <jones20992> sysrpl once you get to know ubuntu you will like it better thin windows unless you playgames except for wow
[06:04] <billt> yes i need java for digichats
[06:04] <^WINBLOWS^> why my desktop eggdrop has alot more stuff in it then the 1 i from apt-get?
[06:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> billt, there are actually several versions of java you can use.
[06:04] <Cntryboy> snoops_ dang man where ya been at lol
[06:04] <aro-ron> I just dual boot for now, but I am using windows less and less now
[06:04] <Bonez> sysrpl, i am noticing my desktop environment has been annoying me a bit too. what distro/version you having probs with?
[06:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> And I believe even a package for sun jdk 1.5
[06:04] <aro-ron> still perfecting wine though
[06:04] <Snoops_> working Cntryboy
[06:04] <infeld> ABOUT Softphone Ekiga> Where can I find rates for PC-to-phone calls??
[06:04] <Cntryboy> snoops_: I got xvidcap running, but I can't get it to combine my frams to a video
[06:05] <jones20992> ubotu tell billt about automatix
[06:05] <Cntryboy> do I need to dl an encoder first?
[06:05] <billt> i know but i dunno what to use with this ubuntu and firefox browser
[06:05] <Snoops_> umm it should be able to output to a avi if I'm not mistaken Cntryboy
[06:05] <Madpilot> infeld, inside Ekiga there's a link to one SIP provider
[06:05] <sysrpl> my desktop has locked up 10x, the sounds stops working for no reason, my wireless adapter stops working, it's had to build applications, prgrams crash on me .... linux is just not ready for the desktop
[06:05] <Bonez> how do I remove KDE
[06:05] <aro-ron> automaticx is my friend...
[06:05] <jones20992> billt check out automatix
[06:05] <Cntryboy> snoops_: well I go to make video and it does nothing :(
[06:05] <billt> ty
[06:05] <infeld> Madpilot: there is? brb
[06:05] <^WINBLOWS^> will someone pls answer
[06:05] <sysrpl> i am running dapper drake
[06:05] <Brunellus> question:  if i'm using my ubuntu box as a router and DHCP server, does the network interface on which I'm serving DHCP have to be a fixed IP?
[06:06] <aro-ron> aw crud... the laptop is booting ubuntu, but so far, the mouse isnt moving... not good
[06:06] <Madpilot> ^WINBLOWS^, if you're not getting an answer, it doesn't mean you're being ignored, it means nobody here now knows one, probably...
[06:06] <Bonez> Linux bonezpc 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> billt, well sun java would probably be apropriate, but I've never tried it with anything else.
[06:06] <Cntryboy> snoops_: bro you are my last resort no one here knows nothing about it..
[06:06] <Snoops_> Cntryboy http://linuxreviews.org/man/xvidcap/ that goes into detail on it
[06:06] <three> bs sysprl ive been running linux only for two years now and I dont have problems like that, Linux is as if no tmore stable than windows
[06:06] <Brunellus> ^WINBLOWS^, what's the problem again?
[06:06] <infeld> ^WINBLOWS^: post it again
[06:06] <sysrpl> now flash player suddenly started fucking up ... linux is not ready for the desktop
[06:06] <Cntryboy> K i hope I can find something there
[06:07] <yggdrasi1> where can i go to find a good emule server ?
[06:07] <Bonez> sysrpl, format and reinstall :P
[06:07] <spades> sysrpl blame adobe
[06:07] <^WINBLOWS^> darn i lost my posts of screen shots now
[06:07] <Bonez> yggdrasi1, not here
[06:07] <three> flash player is non-free software
[06:07] <aro-ron> sysrpl, you prolly just got a bad install, ubuntu is perfectly ready for the desktop
[06:07] <jones20992> sysrpl for flash probls and stuff like that check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[06:07] <aro-ron> you just have to take the time to learn it
[06:07] <sysrpl> even the free software crashes on me
[06:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> sysrpl, well, massive software projects are buggy.
[06:07] <Bonez> sysrpl, complaining about free shit?
[06:07] <aro-ron> haha
[06:07] <sysrpl> glibc has issues as addressed by ubuntu but not fixed
[06:07] <Madpilot> sysrpl, please stop trolling. If you've got problems, start with those...
[06:08] <sysrpl> okay
[06:08] <aro-ron> one bad install dosent make linux as a whole 'not ready for the desktop'
[06:08] <sysrpl> i have lost the ability to get volume in all flash content
[06:08] <mike1> Lo
[06:08] <orge> what is PREEMPT'd kernel ?
[06:08] <Bonez> my install is sooo damn messy, i have partitions everywhere and crap coming out of my ears
[06:08] <jones20992> THE ONLY THING WRONG WITH UBUNTU IS YOU CANT PLAY MTGO!!!!!
[06:08] <Sir_Fawnpug> aro-ron, I suppose it does if you're new to it.
[06:08] <Bonez> but i can't make myself reinstall :P
[06:08] <Brunellus> ^WINBLOWS^, what kind of problem is it?
[06:08] <aro-ron> treu...
[06:08] <Brunellus> sysrpl, "the desktop" does not itself require flash....
[06:08] <aro-ron> true*
[06:09] <yggdrasi1> how do i perform a list search in irssi ? like if i just wanted to /list based on a filter ?
[06:09] <Bonez> anyone know how to remove KDE?
[06:09] <Brunellus> by that measure, sysrpl, windows is not by definition ready for the desktop, because MS does not ship flashplayer with it.
[06:09] <^WINBLOWS^> i have 2 copies of a program 1 is bigger then the other
[06:09] <mike1> how do I reconfigure a network from scratch like at install (my hostap set up is jacked and I have a new card that worked before.  How do I do
[06:09] <Bonez> i want to get rid of it
[06:09] <Sir_Fawnpug> Although I always give people wanting to switch over a copy of ubuntu, they like it more than windows.
[06:09] <aro-ron> Bone, run sudo aptitude
[06:09] <sysrpl> brunellus: what pray does the desktop rewuire? only what you deem worthy? i need video in my web browser
[06:09] <Brunellus> ^WINBLOWS^, what program?
[06:09] <^WINBLOWS^> 1st i used sudo apt-get and was wondering why it wasnt working so i looked at the folder my eggdrop was in and was missing half the program
[06:10] <Bonez> aro-ron, so I can just remove it with aptitude?
[06:10] <^WINBLOWS^> so i d/l it to desktop from the net and its got the full program
[06:10] <jones20992> most windows games playfine in ubuntu/wine with littel work
[06:10] <aro-ron> Bonez, ys, I had to do it, just look for the KDE envroment like entry
[06:10] <sysrpl> windows doesn't llock up on me like this
[06:10] <Sir_Fawnpug> sysrpl, some of us don't need or want flash.
[06:10] <yggdrasi1> bonez apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop or something... or apt-get remove kde dependws on how was installed
[06:10] <aro-ron> kubuntu-desktop or something it will say
[06:10] <^WINBLOWS^> i wanna install desktop eggdrop
[06:10] <Brunellus> sysrpl, please don't play this game here. If you feel like complaining about this OS, I will personally refund what you paid for your software.  What's that, you got it free?  then please don't treat us like tech support drones.
[06:10] <sysrpl> i've had all sort of situations in which i could even terminate x
[06:10] <yggdrasi1> wanna in one hand
[06:10] <aro-ron> sysrpl, flash suck for linux, thats Adobesfault, not linuxs
[06:11] <jones20992> sysrpl if you computer is locking up you have a bad install or bad hardwhere
[06:11] <^WINBLOWS^> eggdrop1.6.18 is on desktop
[06:11] <Bonez> yggdrasi1, i installed it using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but if i try apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop it;s just a 41.0kb dummy package
[06:11] <aro-ron> yup
[06:11] <sysrpl> or bad software which is more likely
[06:11] <yggdrasi1> hmm..
[06:11] <Sir_Fawnpug> sysrpl, write something better.
[06:11] <ic56> ^WINBLOWS^: did apt-get give you any error messages?  What makes you think it didn't install correctly?  What isn't working?
[06:11] <aro-ron> thats why you need to run Aptitude bonez
[06:11] <Brunellus> sysrpl:  what architecture are you running?  also, I suspect you're running a 3d card with some dodgy drivers.  Those drivers are bad software, and that software is what's causing your problems...
[06:11] <sysrpl> misbehaving apps can take down everything
[06:11] <aro-ron> its loads a GUI inside the term
[06:11] <keeperofdakeys> i can't make new directories
[06:11] <sysrpl> i am running a dell laptop
[06:11] <Bonez> aro-ron, yeah. can i use synaptec? cant figure out aptitude
[06:12] <yggdrasi1> bonez , i had the same thing kind happen had to fire up aptitude
[06:12] <^WINBLOWS^> i got errors something bout redhat or something rather from apt-get command
[06:12] <sysrpl> without any 3d drivers
[06:12] <yggdrasi1> bonez just search kde stuff
[06:12] <aro-ron> aptitude is a litle weird, but you have to use it to get rid of KDE< synaptic sont do it
[06:12] <yggdrasi1> i mean synaptic
[06:12] <jones20992> sysrpl no i run on junk computers that should have been throwen away and load ubuntu and can play frycry wow and ut
[06:12] <^WINBLOWS^> as i said the desktop copy has more then the apt-get commands copy
[06:12] <sysrpl> are you saying you've not had lockups due to misbehaving programs?
[06:12] <ic56> sysrpl: is there a question or are you just here to eat up bandwidth?
[06:12] <yggdrasi1> Host 'Mia', running Linux 2.6.15-23-386 - Cpu0: Pentium MMX 234 MHz; Up: 4:52; Users: 1; Load: 0.00; Free: [Mem: 1/59 Mio]  [Swap: 164/173 Mio]  [/: 2930/3876 Mio] ; Vpenis: 10.2 cm;
[06:13] <aro-ron> if you have ever used a tree program for DOS, you can figure out aptitude
[06:13] <three> i put ubuntu on a p1 laptop with about 128 MB of ram
[06:13] <jones20992> sysrpl yeah but i have a solid install i have had lock ups befor but a reinstall fixed them
[06:13] <aro-ron> three, I am basically trying to do that right now... only its got an AMD chip
[06:13] <aro-ron> lots of fun
[06:13] <yggdrasi1> that computer is stuffed inside a bucket and is on my rooftop.
[06:13] <sysrpl> sure, question is how can i fix my volume in web videos as it is currently muted
[06:13] <keeperofdakeys> i can't make directories
[06:13] <yggdrasi1> use to steal wireless internet
[06:13] <Madpilot> keeperofdakeys, where are you trying to make a directory?
[06:14] <three> i didnt have any trouble with it (other than it was deaF)
[06:14] <keeperofdakeys> just in the file server
[06:14] <yggdrasi1> sysrpl from console >  alsamixer
[06:14] <^WINBLOWS^> gimmie a few and ill add/remove/reinstall and post the errors boxs
[06:14] <jones20992> sysrpl you reley should check this out after you reinstall ubuntu http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[06:14] <keeperofdakeys> i'm trying to mount a ntfs disc
[06:14] <Shak-> well I messed up ieee80211 by trying to upgrade, now I can only initiate my wlan with modprobe -f because of symbol errors, anyone know how I can do a proper install? (get apt-get to fix it?)
[06:14] <Brunellus> sysrpl, have you made a forum post on it?  Something like that would probably get better help on the forums than here on irc.
[06:14] <Bonez> ugggh, i think ill just leave kde installed, too messy trying to remove it :P
[06:14] <sysrpl> everything is maxed
[06:14] <jones20992> sysrpl it will make you not want windows anymore
[06:14] <aro-ron> Keep at it Bonez, it can be done
[06:14] <verbose> keeperofdakeys: are you trying to create directories on an ntfs partition?
[06:14] <Bonez> aro-ron, cbf :)
[06:14] <yggdrasi1> sysrpl are you getting sound from like playing an mp3 and stuff ?
[06:14] <keeperofdakeys> no in my filesystem
[06:14] <ic56> ^WINBLOWS^: I'm on a text-only box.  Don't post any screen captures if you want me to see them.
[06:14] <Madpilot> keeperofdakeys, have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:15] <sysrpl> i've isntalled three times already
[06:15] <keeperofdakeys> thanks
[06:15] <sysrpl> and on different machines
[06:15] <sixpoint_> I installed a package but none of the applications are coming up under the command line, I belive I am supposed to add the path or something, how do I do that in ubuntu ?
[06:15] <Madpilot> keeperofdakeys, 'filesystem' is owned by root (the system) not by you
[06:15] <GloomyKnight> i upgrade my system from 5.10 to 6.06 but after do this something go wrong
[06:15] <^WINBLOWS^> ic56 can i msg u?
[06:15] <sysrpl> using 6.06
[06:15] <ic56> ^WINBLOWS^: sure
[06:15] <GloomyKnight> the system crash.
[06:15] <GloomyKnight> what can i do?
[06:15] <Vaske_Car> How can I check does my ISP block SMTP port?
[06:15] <keeperofdakeys> can you give me that again please?
[06:16] <Bonez> anyone know of a program similar to the windows version of DVD Shrink? I have a DVD I want to copy
[06:16] <Madpilot> keeperofdakeys, this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions ?
[06:16] <Bonez> but i want a program that does it all in one
[06:16] <keeperofdakeys> thanks
[06:16] <trev__> ok, is there a hotkey to bring up the terminal?
[06:16] <jones20992> sysrpl and try breezy
[06:16] <skavenge> Bonez: k9copy will take a dvd9 and rip it right to a dvd5 iso
[06:16] <Bonez> skavenge, sweet, thanks
[06:16] <sysrpl> why should i need to reinstall each time i have problems?
[06:17] <^WINBLOWS^> ic56 did my msg's go through?
[06:17] <trev__> can anyone tell me how to make ubuntu conect to my wireless network on startup?
[06:17] <SeraVitae> Trev - no but you can set one
[06:17] <trev__> ok thx
[06:17] <three> because you obviosly dont want to learn how to fix it @syspl
[06:17] <Hexxenn> Can anyone recommend a good font viewer for Xubuntu?
[06:17] <skavenge> if you dont have patience this OS is not for you
[06:17] <ic56> ^WINBLOWS^: I haven't received any msg from you
[06:18] <^WINBLOWS^> darn i msg ya a couple of times
[06:18] <Madpilot> ^WINBLOWS^, you need to be registered & identified to PM on Freenode
[06:18] <SeraVitae> is there anything designed for x configuration with -multiple- video displays? dpkg-configure xserver-xorg or whatever is really only for one card..
[06:18] <^WINBLOWS^> ahh thats why ok 2 secs
[06:18] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ^WINBLOWS^ about register
[06:19] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, I believe xinerama can handle that.
[06:19] <SeraVitae> hmm, ill look that up fawnpug
[06:19] <Sir_Fawnpug> Although it should be compiled into ubuntu's X.
[06:19] <ic56> ^WINBLOWS^: why do you need to PM me anyway?  Is it for something that can be done via pastebin?
[06:20] <SeraVitae> I dont know how to translate what i do in window,s into linux, to get my graphics cards going.
[06:20] <SeraVitae> I have to disable/enable the cards in a certain order, and change which card is primary/secondary
[06:21] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, it can take some practice. But after using various flavors of unix for a while, I can barely function in windows, haha.
[06:21] <Sir_Fawnpug> I don't have two monitors so I'm afraid I don't know how much I can help you.
[06:22] <Sir_Fawnpug> But actually, you know, I did set up a dual monitor display come to think of it.
[06:22] <Sir_Fawnpug> You just have to have more than one screen I believe.
[06:22] <SeraVitae> yeah but
[06:22] <SeraVitae> see in windows
[06:22] <SeraVitae> if i enable all my grapics cards, i get a BSOD
[06:23] <SeraVitae> i have to do some device manager/display properties juggling to get them all going at once
[06:23] <Sir_Fawnpug> Well I hope you don't want Ubunut to do that, haha.
[06:23] <SeraVitae> if i reboot with all of them on, it will BSOD, so every bootup i have to do my little juggle.
[06:23] <SeraVitae> actually i was hoping ubuntu with a script i wrote might be able to automate turning on different display adaptors so i could do it.
[06:23] <Sir_Fawnpug> Although that might be a motherboard issue.
[06:23] <SeraVitae> it's not
[06:23] <SeraVitae> i have 3x graphics cards
[06:24] <SeraVitae> that's mostly the issue :P
[06:24] <Sir_Fawnpug> Haha, jesus man. How much power are you supplying to them?
[06:24] <SeraVitae> but if it works in windows, i'm confident i can get it going in linux
[06:24] <SeraVitae> they're getting enough juice
[06:24] <SeraVitae> pci cards sometimes dont like to be secondary
[06:24] <SeraVitae> so i have to disable some, fool the cards
[06:24] <SeraVitae> turn em back on
[06:25] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm not sure how the bios usually handles pci cards
[06:25] <SeraVitae> if i could disable/enable video cards without shutting down X, and could change primary/secondary on the adaptors, i'd be a happy man.
[06:26] <Sir_Fawnpug> So your setup is only set up for one card right?
[06:26] <ic56> What does it mean when apt-get complains "E: redhat-cluster-suite: ..."?  Does it mean I'm installing a package meant for redhat?!
[06:26] <brl4n> purhaps
[06:27] <SeraVitae> fawnpug - i have a PCI-express dual head card, and two PCI graphics cards.
[06:28] <SeraVitae> i boot up with pci-express, disable it, enable the pci cards, then re-enable the pci-express card and my quad display setup works perfectly.
[06:28] <doneir> ic56, no, the redhat-cluster-suite is a meta package for a bunch of kernel modules iirc
[06:28] <ic56> doneir: thank you!
[06:28] <mborohovski> sorry, got disconnected.
[06:28] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, sounds like you got alot of money tied up in this system.
[06:29] <SeraVitae> quad 19" lcd.
[06:29] <mborohovski> does anyone know why i keep getting "protocol negotiation failed" from samba?
[06:29] <mborohovski> google is entirely unhelpful for this
[06:29] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, well in xorg you CAN specify multiple video cards
[06:29] <SeraVitae> nah not lots of money, it is a nice computer but it's not a lot of money
[06:29] <SeraVitae> i just multitask like the wind
[06:30] <Sir_Fawnpug> Now I guess you could do your changes, restart x, do your other changes, restart x, etc.
[06:30] <SeraVitae> maybe
[06:30] <SeraVitae> i cant find something that will config x, designed for multiple display
[06:30] <Sir_Fawnpug> Although all of that may not actually be nessescary.
[06:30] <SeraVitae> i really don't want to edit the xorg.conf myself, im likely to make huge errors.
[06:30] <SeraVitae> well
[06:30] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, well, you could always back it up.
[06:30] <SeraVitae> when i booted off livecd X failed.
[06:31] <SeraVitae> when trying to use the pci card
[06:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> If you screw up, you can roll back your changes.
[06:31] <SeraVitae> true
[06:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> I don't blame you, honestly, because X errors can be quite confusing.
[06:31] <SeraVitae> so like for all four monitors (same brand) can i just copy paste the 'section "monitor" end section bit 4 times?
[06:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, you just have to give them different identifiers.
[06:32] <SeraVitae> Monitor1, Monitor2, etc, yeah?
[06:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> Yep
[06:32] <SeraVitae> cool.
[06:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> With the PCI cards, you need to add card entries I think
[06:32] <sam_> Wat tha beast linclucks distros?
[06:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> I forget exactly what they're called.
[06:33] <SeraVitae> devices i think
[06:33] <SeraVitae> and some screen stuff
[06:33] <SeraVitae> i've just never done multiple displays in X, so this is all new
[06:33] <brl4n> getting a hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit when doing a liveCD on i386
[06:33] <brl4n> hmmmmm
[06:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, understandable. And if you're primary is nvidia, you might have to try a little voodoo to get it to work right.
[06:34] <SeraVitae> well, its nvidia, but its dualhead, so it has a secondary device.
[06:34] <Sir_Fawnpug> At least I did at work when setting up a dual display system (we have two 25" monitors per workstation)
[06:34] <sam_> I like baked beans
[06:34] <lumgwada> hi there  does ubuntu have a map network drive wizard of sorts or is modifying /stc/fstab the go ?
[06:34] <SeraVitae> i have to enable both, disable the primary device, use the secondary device to enable the pci cards, and yeah.
[06:34] <SeraVitae> juggle juggle.
[06:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, well hopefully it'll be easier for you.
[06:35] <sam_> I like fried chicken hick
[06:35] <SeraVitae> heh. can only hope.
[06:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> The main thing you need to make sure of is that your xorg supports xinerama.
[06:35] <SeraVitae> i have nfi how to do that.
[06:35] <SeraVitae> i can't seem to find anything having to do with xinerama anywhere.
[06:35] <sam_> I like licking vagina
[06:35] <sam_> ops
[06:36] <sam_> sorry guys
[06:36] <brutopia_> :D
[06:36] <sam_> thats my mate
[06:36] <sam_> typing
[06:36] <SeraVitae> troll
[06:36] <SeraVitae> begone fool
[06:37] <Corporal_Dirge> No point banning dialup. heh
[06:37] <DBO> Corporal_Dirge, its just a temporary measure until I talk to him
[06:38] <zcat[1] > just ban *.xtra.co.nz, xtra's NZ's AOL...
[06:38] <ic56> guys, in 6.06, what is the way to get a terminal from the gnome panel?  I'm still on 5.10 and I've got someone who's not find Terminal...
[06:38] <Corporal_Dirge> ctrl alt F1 right?
[06:38] <DBO> sam_ please keep in mind that you will be held accountable for anything said on your nick, regardless if you typed it or not
[06:39] <jojoman02> latest songbird for linux build is being uploaded right now, --> http://developer.songbirdnest.com/nightly/builds/linux/
[06:39] <GloomyKnight> ic56 you can find it in the accossiator
[06:39] <lumgwada> hi there  does ubuntu have a map network drive wizard of sorts or is modifying /stc/fstab still the go ?
[06:39] <sam_> xtra is NZ's mainstream internet provider
[06:40] <SeraVitae> Sir_Fawnpug:  could you suggest how i could verify the presence of xinerama?
[06:40] <ic56> GloomyKnight: I don't know what the associator is and I don't have 6.06 instealled.  Can you please specify the exact menu sequence, starting from gnome panel?
[06:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, I'm doing researchon that right now.
[06:40] <SeraVitae> okay, cool, appreciate it
[06:40] <Snoops_> sam_ and a terrible one at that :)
[06:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> Although I think ubuntu's versions of xorg come with it compiled in, although I probably stand to be corrected on that one.
[06:41] <richiefrich> !Automatix
[06:41] <SeraVitae> well, i couldn't find any references (commands, manpages, etc) to xinerama.
[06:41] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:41] <scipio_africanus> ic56: applications-accessories-terminal
[06:41] <GloomyKnight> ic56 in 5.04 you can find it at the asscossiotr
[06:41] <richiefrich> !automatix
[06:41] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:41] <GloomyKnight> sorry maybe i spell the word wrong
[06:41] <GloomyKnight> but you can find it in you menu
[06:42] <ic56> scipio_africanus: is that on 6.06?
[06:42] <scipio_africanus> ic56: yup
[06:42] <richiefrich> man i want the url  u bot --> ubotu
[06:42] <GloomyKnight> first menu
[06:42] <ic56> scipio_africanus: thank you!  Neat nick btw!
[06:42] <rob138> are there other good sites like pricewatch.com to find computer parts?
[06:43] <richiefrich> !mp3
[06:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:43] <ic56> GloomyKnight: where do I find this "associator"?  I have 5.10
[06:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, xinerama (and I could've been mispelling it this entire time) is an extension, which might be why you're having a hard time finding it.
[06:45] <SeraVitae> oh.. okay.
[06:45] <SeraVitae> i'm not sure how an extension differs to what i've been doing then.
[06:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> I think an extension is kind of like a plugin.
[06:46] <SeraVitae> oh.
[06:46] <domecq> Hi there. I'm using Ubuntu Dapper, and noticed that command-line resolution doesn't seem to fit under monitor area. It seems to be exceeding it. Graphical is working fine.
[06:46] <SeraVitae> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/testing.html#AEN156
[06:46] <SeraVitae> Option "Xinerama" "true"
[06:46] <SeraVitae> heh.
[06:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, what version of X are you running by the way?
[06:47] <Snoops_> domecq what monitor?
[06:47] <domecq> LCD Compaq FP
[06:47] <SeraVitae> Sir_Fawnpug: NFI.
[06:47] <SeraVitae> how do I check
[06:48] <domecq> Sorry... LCD Compaq FP5315
[06:48] <Snoops_> possible that the lcd doesn't support said resolution
[06:48] <dibblego> when I try to mount -t smbfs a windows share, it seems to be successful, but I can not do a read or list (ls) on the directory - the permissions have question marks against them
[06:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, well I'm not sure what dapper runs, I was just curious if you were using modular-x
[06:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> But chances are if you don't know what that is, you aren't.
[06:49] <doneir> dibblego, try supplying a umask as a mount option, this'll force certain perms on the files
[06:49] <doneir> no idea about that ??? though
[06:50] <SeraVitae> probably not, this is very-vanilla dapper
[06:50] <domecq> Snoops I can use command line in Debian and it doesn't have that problem...
[06:50] <doneir> (if you can supply umask mount perms to a smbfs o_o)
[06:50] <TheGame> sup
[06:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> SeraVitae, ahh, I as just curious. I finally got modular-x working on my gentoo system and it can be tough to get working.
[06:51] <TheGame> anyone care to explain why is it that when i turn on my screensaver the gnome panels still show
[06:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> It could be the underpants gnomes. Screensaver. ... Profit.
[06:52] <TheGame> ???
[06:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> It's a joke, probably in poor taste.
[06:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> Haha.
[06:52] <TheGame> ya
[06:53] <nanotube> hello all
[06:53] <prophet> hey fellas
[06:53] <TheGame> sup
[06:54] <kroiz> where is the plugin directory for gvim? for plugin that I dont want to load in vim.
[06:55] <nanotube> so, i have a problem with my right Alt key. since dapper upgrade (i think), it has not been doing it's thing - so pressing alt-f2, eg, does nothing with the right alt key, but works as it should with the left alt. further, going to keyboard control panel, and under layout options tab selecting alt/win key behavior to be "alt and meta are on the alt keys", solves the problem, but introduces another problem - i cannot switch kb lay
[06:55] <nanotube> outs with pressing alt-alt anymore. so, anyone have any ideas?
[06:55] <samm1> Does anyone know how I can make a shortcut on my desktop to my Windows folder which contains my second hard drive
[06:55] <nanotube> samm1: sure, run "ln -s /path/to/your/windows ~/Desktop/shortcutname
[06:56] <samm1> Thank you :)
[06:56] <nanotube> samm1: no prob :)
[06:57] <nanotube> anyone have any clues about my keyboard layout problem?
[06:58] <prophet> anyone know how i can get my other buttons on my mouse to work ?
[06:58] <spades> prophet https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[06:59] <squeakypants> hey everyone
[06:59] <designdream> hihi squeakypants
[06:59] <squeakypants> i can't get my gamepad to work (old one, uses the game port)
[06:59] <squeakypants> how would i go about creating a device node to it?
[06:59] <squeakypants> makedev gives me "command not found"
[07:00] <squeakypants> which is weird cause man makedev works fine
[07:00] <SeraVitae> Sir_Fawnpug:  - i did the whole xinerama thing, added all 3 cards, 4 displays, 4 screens, edited the serverlayout, and *nothing* has changed.
[07:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> Well I'm off to do some progrmaming. Hope your multicard display works out eventually.
[07:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> Keep at it.
[07:00] <SeraVitae> will do.
[07:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> If I ever figure it out, I'll clue you in.
[07:00] <squeakypants> nevermind i figured it out (needed to do it all caps)
[07:00] <Redrose> when i use adduser, it says only one or two user names allowed... how do i expand this limit
[07:01] <SeraVitae> anyone else wanna have a go at a triple-video card quadruple-monitor x config? :P
[07:01] <Redrose> !ubot restricted_formats
[07:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubot restricted_formats - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:01] <designdream> i want a 30 inch monitor
[07:02] <designdream> dual 30's! yum
[07:02] <trisha> hello..help please..how can I share my folders to other linux distro in a network
[07:02] <SeraVitae> I can't understand why i just modified the hell out of my xorg.conf and none of my other monitors will turn on.
[07:03] <keeperofdakeys> i can't open .rpm
[07:03] <designdream> anyone have an sk3?
[07:03] <Redrose> when i use adduser, it says only one or two user names allowed... how do i expand this limit?
[07:03] <linux_user400354> who uses sata harddrives?
[07:03] <nanotube> Redrose: you would have to create your own tool then (maybe a wrapper script for adduser)
[07:03] <Snoops_> yep linux_user400354
[07:03] <squeakypants> it still doesn't work, any ideas?
[07:03] <Snoops_> got 3 in main ubuntu rig
[07:03] <trisha> even if my folder is not shared e.g. using samba?
[07:04] <Redrose> well i mean their is normally no limit, is their a text file i can edit?
[07:04] <SeraVitae> NineTeen67Comet / designdream, have you peoples ever done a dualhead xgl setup?
[07:04] <nanotube> SeraVitae: quick check: are your other monitors powered on? :D
[07:04] <SeraVitae> nanotube: all 4 monitors are on, yes
[07:04] <nanotube> SeraVitae: hehe good, just checking :)
[07:04] <SeraVitae> :P
[07:04] <linux_user400354> Snoops_, did you notice your computer being any faster when you switched to sata?
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > wow, terrible storm passing through :\
[07:04] <squeakypants> anyone? how can i get a sound card's game port working
[07:05] <nanotube> trisha: easiest way is to install the ssh server
[07:05] <nanotube> trisha: package "ssh"
[07:05] <designdream> SeraVitae no
[07:05] <Snoops_> linux_user400354 not much from sata.. sata2 definitely
[07:05] <keeperofdakeys> i cannot open .rpm archives
[07:06] <nanotube> keeperofdakeys: install package "alien", it will enable you to convert rpms to .debs
[07:06] <NineTeen67Comet> SeraVitae: I've been trying to find one that worked for me for months .. I read about them working great all the time .. but nothing so far for me .. just a nice lefty, and a gray righty ..
[07:06] <keeperofdakeys> thanks
[07:06] <nanotube> keeperofdakeys: or even just install from rpm directly
[07:06] <SeraVitae> danm
[07:06] <SeraVitae> NineTeen67Comet:  that doesnt give me much hope of getting my quadruple display going :(
[07:06] <Redrose> when i use adduser, it says only one or two user names allowed... how do i expand this limit?
[07:06] <Snoops_> linux_user400354 also I found sata2 with ncq to be noticably faster again - getting 60-70MB/s over gigabit with them, compared to an average 20MB/s from ide
[07:06] <keeperofdakeys> it won't open though
[07:06] <nanotube> SeraVitae: have you tried just doing 2 monitors at first, to see if you can get 2 working, and then working up from there?
[07:07] <SeraVitae> nanotube:  - two of my montiors are working in 'clone' mode already
[07:07] <SeraVitae> i will try now to get them to span
[07:07] <nanotube> keeperofdakeys: you have to use alien from commandline (as in, "alien packagename.rpm" from terminal)
[07:07] <NineTeen67Comet> SeraVitae: Not really .. I've got enough monitors to pull that one off, just not enough vid cards ..
[07:07] <nanotube> good luck :)
[07:07] <squeakypants> doesn't anyone know this?
[07:07] <nanotube> squeakypants: sorry, not me. ;)
[07:08] <[AOP] Drakonslayo> whats doing people?
[07:08] <SeraVitae> how can i turn video cards on and off? i dont even know which card/s are in use atm.
[07:08] <squeakypants> nanotube: i've been trying to figure this out for awhile
[07:08] <NineTeen67Comet> Anyone in here running the ubuntu-server LAMP style? .. I'm setting mine up brand new as we speak.. Need to get nfs running then it'll be good to go I think .. oh and samba, cups and proftp ... lol
[07:08] <squeakypants> i ordered a n64+psx-->usb converter that'll be here within a week, but I want to get this one working too
[07:08] <nanotube> squeakypants: it is possible that the linux driver for your soundcard just doesn't support that gameport... (my very uneducated guess)
[07:09] <squeakypants> nanotube: it's supposed to, but it just won't recognize it for some reason
[07:10] <nanotube> squeakypants: hmm...
[07:10] <SeraVitae> how do i totally restart ? i dont think it's actually doing it.
[07:10] <SeraVitae> i mean, totally restart X.
[07:10] <trisha> i already installed ssh package..what's next please?how can i share my folders now?e.g. my folder in /sda5
[07:10] <nanotube> SeraVitae: ctl-alt-backspace
[07:10] <KaJe> Anyone with an ATI card using dual monitors? I'm having trouble setting mine up.
[07:10] <nanotube> SeraVitae: or from a vty, run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[07:10] <SeraVitae> nanotube:  i do that, i mean, dont i have to shut down gdm as well or something when i screw with displays
[07:11] <SeraVitae> kaje - im trying to do that right now.
[07:11] <prophet> linux is hard....
[07:11] <nanotube> SeraVitae: i think ctl-alt-backspace restarts gdm as well... but you can try the command i posted too, just in case.
[07:11] <linux_user400354> what do you mean prophet?
[07:11] <SeraVitae> God danm this. no matter *what* i change in my xorg.conf, the two screens always sit in clone.
[07:11] <prophet> i dont understand alot about it and it scares me
[07:12] <KaJe> SeraVitae: any luck? My 2ndary monitor works, but it's a copy of my primary monitor
[07:12] <prophet> what all the files mean and do
[07:12] <nanotube> SeraVitae: are you using the oss ati driver, or the proprietary fglrx?
[07:12] <byteshack> anybody got gnucash 2.0 working with OFX?
[07:12] <nanotube> prophet: well, really, windows is pretty cryptic about what all its files do, too :)
[07:12] <squeakypants> gnite everyone
[07:12] <nanotube> squeakypants: good luck...
[07:12] <linux_user400354> prophet, you will learn it over time. did you have some questions?
[07:12] <prophet> yeah but ive been using it forever, this is like my 3rd day using linux its interesting but hard
[07:12] <SeraVitae> nanotube:  - uhhh, neither?
[07:12] <KaJe> nanotube: i appear to have SeraVitae's problem..i'm on the fglrx drivers
[07:13] <squeakypants> http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/uglymyspace/final.html vote for me being ugly! I'm http://www.myspace.com/beautifulsqaurdon
[07:13] <SeraVitae> i just installed the livecd and yeah. here iam.
[07:13] <prophet> i have alot of questions the forums have answered pretty much all
[07:13] <nanotube> SeraVitae: wait, so which video card do you have, then? nvidia?
[07:13] <KaJe> SeraVitae: you're on the oss drivers
[07:13] <bruenig> prophet, i installed slackware, quit went back to windows, installed suse, quit went back to windows, installed ubuntu breezy, quit went back to windows, installed ubuntu dapper and never went back
[07:13] <linux_user400354> prophet, what have you been using forever?
[07:14] <prophet> ive been using windows since like 98
[07:14] <nanotube> prophet: if you want a comprehensive list of where all the stuff goes in a linux filesystem, check out this link: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[07:14] <bruenig> prophet, you will pick it up real fast, just don't be lazy make sure you understand what you are doing before you do it so that you can repeat the concept
[07:14] <prophet> its not really forever but im 21 so kinda is
[07:14] <SeraVitae> nanotube: Ati Radeon x600xt + 2x nvidia geforce 4000's
[07:14] <linux_user400354> prophet, most people have
[07:14] <nanotube> SeraVitae: so you must be using some ati drivers, you know, and some nvidia drivers :) at least i would think so.
[07:14] <prophet> i got my flash sound to work but now it doesnt anymore :( i dont know where to go from there
[07:15] <NineTeen67Comet> prophet: I found that the easiest way to get Linux easy in the head is to forget "but in XX we just did it this way" ..
[07:15] <Shak-> anyone install the rtap patch for the ipw2200 successfully? I tried patch -p1 but it errors out during 'make'
[07:15] <prophet> i like how you can switch workspaces i just have ctrl+1-4
[07:15] <prophet> its handy
[07:15] <nanotube> KaJe: since you are just trying two monitors, have you tried running the aticonfig command, and have it generate an xorg.conf for you?
[07:15] <SeraVitae> nanotube:  in xorg.conf i use 'ati' and 'vesa'.
[07:15] <bruenig> propeht, the flash sound goes in and out, it is a known bug, If you use anything that uses sound while there is a flash animation on the screen, the flash sound goes out and the only way to get it back that I have found is to basically restart the whole system
[07:16] <prophet> yeah i have XMMS open
[07:16] <nanotube> SeraVitae: ah, so ati is the oss driver, and vesa... is an oss driver too, but does not support any fancy stuff. you should install the proprietary fglrx and nvidia drivers, and then try all this again.
[07:16] <KaJe> nanotube: I have tried running "aticonfig --initial=dual-head --dtop=horizontal --screen-layout=right --iagp=off -v" and I get an error: "aticonfig: unrecognized option `--iagp=off'"
[07:16] <SeraVitae> okay nano, i'll try that.
[07:16] <linux_user400354> How can i know if my computers bus speed is fast enough for sata2 drives?
[07:16] <nanotube> Shak-: whats the rtap patch?
[07:16] <prophet> yeah there is alot of all these files and little things you need to remember
[07:16] <bruenig> prophet, poorly written flash port by adobe,
[07:16] <KaJe> nanotube: Google gives no results for that error
[07:16] <Cooner750> Anyone here know what's wrong with the Ubuntu Forums? They are extremely slow
[07:16] <prophet> heh
[07:17] <three> is the site slow or the users?
[07:17] <KaJe> Cooner750: i can't even connect atm
[07:17] <Shak-> nanotube: its a patch that allows the creation of two interfaces
[07:17] <prophet> well, i think linux is a great idea everything free and all that stuff, its done a great job creating its own corner stone programs from what ive seen but still its TOOO damn much for a regular user to get them selfs into
[07:17] <nanotube> SeraVitae: yea, for fglrx, install package "xorg-driver-fglrx", and for nvidia... it's something else, but i dont have nvidia, so you have to find it out yourself :)
[07:18] <Shak-> http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/patches/ipw2200-1.1.1-rtap_iface.patch <- need help applying it though
[07:18] <Cooner750> Was anyone here actually able to get MySQL, Apache, and PHP all working together? It seems near impossible to get them all working
[07:18] <prophet> i consider myself a pretty advanced user in windows and everyday i feel like just switching back but im kinda bored with windows so i keep linux on
[07:18] <nanotube> KaJe: so, remove the "iagp" option from the commandline, and try again :) or run aticonfig in interactive mode, and let it prompt you for all the stuff.
[07:18] <three> @ prophet linux has never been more ready for the regular user
[07:19] <keeperofdakeys> alien isn't working
[07:19] <Madpilot> Cooner750, I don't have them installed currently, but a while ago I had the full lamp stack installed, it worked just fine
[07:19] <keeperofdakeys> any other ways to open .rpm files
[07:19] <KaJe> nanotube: how do I run it in interactive mode? I have tried removing that and my 2ndary is still just a clone of my primary
[07:19] <SeraVitae> nanotube:  thanks, ill find the nvidia one in a minute
[07:19] <prophet> yeah ive read that on some sites but still, you realllly need to want to use it or else its very discouraing when you have NO idea what to do and u need to read forums all day to figure out simple stuff :/
[07:19] <bruenig> prophet, I was in your exact position, saying the exact same things. Just ask question when you need to and learn as much as you can. You get to the point where you prefer the command line and editing configuration files than the graphical way.
[07:19] <prophet> yeah
[07:20] <three> you really have to want to use windows or OS X also
[07:20] <prophet> well i havnt been using it for a week but i think ive done OK for now
[07:20] <Cooner750> I had another question. I know that I can install Ubuntu Server, and I know it has no window manager by default. I ran sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. As I wanted Xfce and the packages that come with Xubuntu-Desktop. Well it  downloaded and setup the main packages fine, but on every font package it reported some error about the default configuration file. I finally got frustrated and turned it off
[07:20] <keeperofdakeys> i can't open .rpm archives
[07:20] <Cooner750> Anyone else had that problem
[07:20] <Cooner750> ?
[07:20] <bruenig> I have only been ubuntu only for about a month and only dual booting ubuntu and windows for a month and half before then
[07:20] <prophet> im able to do pretty much most of the stuff i do in windows but when i think of doing something its like TOTALLY the opposite and i have to learn it all over..
[07:20] <three> ubuntu may not be for everyone but lin/freespire and others are
[07:22] <nanotube> KaJe: i dont recall specifically... but if you run aticonfig --help, it will give you a bunch of options, and some examples.
[07:22] <nanotube> keeperofdakeys: so what's the commandline you are using, and what's the error it is giving you?
[07:23] <keeperofdakeys> when i try to open .rpm files the archive manager says it doesn't support them
[07:23] <trisha> i already installed ssh package..what's next please?how can i share my folders now?e.g. my folder in /sda5
[07:23] <ic56> !alien
[07:23] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:24] <nanotube> keeperofdakeys: like i said, to use alien, you have to use alien from commandline. the archive manager is not going to open them. if you are looking for a plugin to archive manager to open rpms, then i don't know if there is one...
[07:24] <keeperofdakeys> it also won't open .deb
[07:24] <nanotube> Shak-: got your pm, but since i am not registered, don't think i can pm you back...
[07:25] <linux_user400354> trisha you can use scp (secure copy)
[07:25] <Madpilot> !register
[07:25] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:25] <Shak-> nanotube: ah
[07:25] <Madpilot> nanotube, to register, see the URL ubotu just posted ^^^
[07:25] <linux_user400354> trisha, if you are sharing a folder with windows computers then use samba
[07:25] <Snoops_> or just type /msg nickserv register [password] 
[07:26] <SeraVitae> nanotube:  hahaha, i am owned, when i try to install x-org-driver nvidia it uninstalls fglrx (ati card)
[07:26] <nanotube> trisha: so now, on your other machine, you can open up a file manager, then select "file>connect to server", enter the ip address and connection type (ssh, or sftp, i forget how they call it in that dialog), and then a remote drive will appear on your desktop, with that system's filesystem contents. (all this assuming you are using gnome)
[07:26] <Snoops_> trying to run two graphics cards SeraVitae?
[07:26] <zcat[1] > me ponders what happens when you want to run dual head with one nvidia and one ati card...
[07:27] <nanotube> SeraVitae: haha too bad. sorry... i never had to deal with multiple video cards... sounds bad, though...
[07:27] <SeraVitae> eah.
[07:27] <three> welp later on everyone
[07:27] <nanotube> Madpilot: heh, well, i guess maybe i will go and register ;)
[07:27] <xordae> I got this error message shortly before a fresh Ubuntu 6.06 install finished. Maybe anyone can make sense of it? http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?1da7c08625.jpg
[07:29] <SeraVitae> nanotube:  - well, i can't even get the two ati adaptors going in dualhead. i just ran aticonfig --initial=dualhead and it torched my other display. now i'm down to one..
[07:29] <RShadow> how can I add a user to the system with no home directory and no shell (using a CLI tool)?
[07:30] <verbose> RShadow: man useradd
[07:30] <Hexxenn> can anyone recommend a good font viewer?
[07:31] <jbroome> gfontview
[07:31] <king8654> anyone wanna give me the run down on the java install for swiftfox...works for something, most not
[07:31] <trisha> i tried in other linux machine(kde)i see 2 folders fish and smb..how will i view the contents of this machine(ubuntu)?
[07:32] <Hexxenn> jbroome: it seems like gfontview is the *only* option
[07:32] <cpsalvestrini> hello there
[07:32] <nanotube> SeraVitae: hmm, sucks...
[07:32] <Infern0o> hi :)-
[07:33] <Infern0o> !ati
[07:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:33] <SeraVitae> wierd tho
[07:33] <sammy> nano can you tell me how to make that shortcut again?
[07:33] <sammy> sorry
[07:33] <cpsalvestrini> I've a (small?) problem with ipw2200 and wpa
[07:33] <cpsalvestrini> i folloved the post from luca_linux
[07:33] <nanotube> sammy: "ln -s /source/dir ~/Desktop/nameoflink" :)
[07:34] <cpsalvestrini> got the most recent version of ipw2200, ipw2200 firmware and ieee80211
[07:34] <sammy> ahhh there it goes, thanks
[07:34] <sammy> why does it have a lock and a red x on it?
[07:34] <cpsalvestrini> still when i run wpa supplicant this is what i get
[07:35] <cpsalvestrini> ctrl_interface='/var/run/wpa_supplicant'
[07:35] <cpsalvestrini> Line: 3 - start of a new network block
[07:35] <cpsalvestrini> ssid - hexdump_ascii(len=7):
[07:35] <cpsalvestrini>      41 6c 74 6f 6c 61 72                              Altolar
[07:35] <cpsalvestrini> scan_ssid=1 (0x1)
[07:35] <trisha> i get it now!thanks!
[07:37] <SeraVitae> excellent, now i've lost all screens and responsiveness.
[07:37] <trisha> i'm confuse..what's difference between smb and nfs?
[07:37] <thejnaitor> hey guys... is there an easy way to fix my xorg.conf? I messed it up trying to install nvidia drivers, and can't load X now :(
[07:38] <verix> well now that the netsplit is over..
[07:38] <verix> does anyone know how to keep the mouse from randomly clicking while I type?
[07:38] <Xnix> verix laptop?
[07:38] <verix> yeah
[07:38] <Xnix> syndaemon
[07:38] <Xnix> does the trick
[07:38] <verix> alright
[07:39] <RShadow> yakk, I've been reading the man page for useradd but the command that I think should work isn't working ( useradd -D -c "my comment" -g dns -b /dev/null -s /no/login username)
[07:39] <verix> it says "Can't access shared memory."
[07:39] <osfameron> does that work for the synaptic touchpad problem too ?
[07:39] <Xnix> you need a line in your driver section for xorg.conf i think
[07:39] <osfameron> nope
[07:39] <thejnaitor> is there an easy way to fix my xorg.conf so I can load X without having to reinstall or use  backup? I made no backup
[07:39] <Xnix> osfameron wat problem?
[07:40] <osfameron> Xnix: If I move the pointer with the touchpad and then sharply release, it can cause a click event
[07:40] <osfameron> very annoying
[07:40] <Xnix> verix http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad
[07:40] <osfameron> I have a friend with same problem - synaptic touchpad (his laptop model is different, can't remember which)
[07:40] <Xnix> good doc even though its for gentoo
[07:41] <Xnix> osfameron strange i dont ever get that
[07:41] <cpsalvestrin1> sorry got disconnected
[07:41] <trisha> i can't see my partions in my hard disk(sata)?
[07:41] <cpsalvestrin1> anyways this problem is kinda getting to my nerves
[07:42] <cpsalvestrin1> and i don't know how to solve this
[07:42] <kickmass> hi all
[07:42] <cpsalvestrin1> hi there
[07:42] <Corporal_Dirge> trisha, Are you looking at the disk through the disk manager?
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> does anyone know of an easy way to manage user accounts between two machines? Something like roaming profiles.
[07:42] <osfameron> Xnix: looks like a useful doc, ta
[07:42] <verix> wait
[07:43] <verix> what does this have to do with my mouse randomly clicking as I type?
[07:43] <kickmass> my problem is posted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=120757cf307cf69a9a6e78b2ef5ac246&t=218035 .. Please anyone can help ?
[07:43] <verix> like I'll be typing and then suddenly it'll click
[07:43] <Xnix> verix you can set it to sleep for X number of seconds on keypresses
[07:43] <Xnix> so it'll deactivate while you type
[07:43] <verix> oh
[07:43] <Xnix> its b/c it senses your palms, or at least htats how it usually is for me
[07:43] <cpsalvestrin1> i have the dump for my problem
[07:43] <Xnix> if i slightly brush them with my palm on accident
[07:44] <Corporal_Dirge> Happens to me a lot too.
[07:44] <verix> strange
[07:44] <kickmass> anyone can help ?
[07:44] <verix> I have it installed, but it doesn't seem to want to run
[07:44] <Xnix> yhou need an option in xorg.conf and then you have to restart X
[07:44] <Xnix> let me see if i can find it
[07:44] <Xnix> (im not on my laptop atm)
[07:44] <verix> alright
[07:45] <Corporal_Dirge> I'll be typing and the the pad will select another window. heh, or it'll select what I'm typing and I'll type over what I already typed.
[07:45] <keeperofdakeys> gaim keeps crashing and i've tried what it says in the faq
[07:45] <Xnix> syndaemon can fix all that Corporal_Dirge
[07:45] <AOGuy1989> Where can i get stuff to amke bluetooth work
[07:45] <kickmass> my problem is I DNS I think. :(
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: try qtsynaptic or tpconfig -- both are in repos.
[07:45] <Corporal_Dirge> No, my latop is ok. It has a disable button. Just when I forget to press it.
[07:45] <Xnix> verix SHMConfig (Boolean) - Switch on/off shared memory for configuration. (allows parameters to be changed with synclient program)
[07:45] <Xnix> thats the option u need
[07:45] <verix> alright
[07:46] <knapper> AOGuy1989, the apps that come with kubuntu worked well for me
[07:46] <AOGuy1989> where can i get
[07:46] <Xnix> Option "SHMConfig" "on"
[07:46] <verix> so basically in the synaptic section of xorg.conf I put SHMConfig "on"?
[07:46] <verix> ahh
[07:46] <Xnix> in your inputdevice section
[07:46] <verix> alright thank you
[07:46] <Xnix> then restart x and you can use syndaemon
[07:46] <wolfherd> any one use protel99 with wine??
[07:46] <Xnix> probably want to try something like this
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth
[07:46] <SeraVitae> how do i enable/disable hardware?
[07:46] <Xnix> syndaemon -d -i .3
[07:46] <Xnix> try that verix ^^
[07:46] <AOGuy1989> how do i do that i am new
[07:46] <AOGuy1989> please help
[07:46] <Xnix> something close to that, adjust the .3 to your liking
[07:47] <AOGuy1989> =P
[07:47] <Xnix> AOGuy1989 you type it into a terminal
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: do you know how to open up the terminal?
[07:47] <verix> ahh, alright
[07:47] <verix> what's .3 a measure of btw?
[07:47] <Xnix> verix seconds to wait after last keypress before it activates mousepad again
[07:47] <Xnix> you want it as small as u can get it without giving you the issue
[07:47] <verix> ahhh.
[07:47] <AOGuy1989> um maybe sec
[07:47] <verix> thank you!
[07:48] <Xnix> verix np
[07:48] <keeperofdakeys> gaim keeps crashing and i've tried what it says in the faq
[07:48] <AOGuy1989> no
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: main menu > accessories > terminal
[07:48] <Corporal_Dirge> hmm, I had to change my vo on MPlayer and now I can't resize the video.
[07:48] <AOGuy1989> k
[07:48] <HellDragon> :)
[07:48] <AOGuy1989> now type that?
[07:48] <Snoops_> which vo Corporal_Dirge?
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: yes
[07:49] <kickmass> does anyone know why I can surf using IP address but not FQDN in Ubuntu Linux ?
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> kickmass: your dns servers are not setup properly
[07:49] <kickmass> my /etc/resolv.conf has only one line. it says nameserver 10.1.1.1
[07:49] <Xnix> kickmass what kinda router do you have
[07:49] <SeraVitae> anyone know how to disable hardware?
[07:49] <Xnix> assuming you are behind one
[07:49] <kickmass> DLINK 502T simple one.
[07:49] <Corporal_Dirge> snoops, X11 (XImaahe/Shm)
[07:49] <kickmass> first of all thanks. :)
[07:49] <AOGuy1989> says pakage is not there
[07:49] <Snoops_> ah right Corporal_Dirge.. try gl2?
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> kickmass: are you getting ip addresses assigned by dhcp?
[07:49] <Xnix> kickmass what is your IP address of your machine?
[07:50] <Snoops_> I've had great luck with gl2
[07:50] <Corporal_Dirge> GL2 is slooow
[07:50] <kickmass> yeah my IP address is 10.1.1.2
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> !info gnome-bluetooth
[07:50] <ubotu> gnome-bluetooth: GNOME Bluetooth tools.. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 205 kB, installed size 892 kB
[07:50] <Tru7h> Mine's 127.0.0.1
[07:50] <Snoops_> oh I don't notice any slowness :/
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: you have to enable the universe respository
[07:50] <Xnix> Snoops_ hes probably not using Xgl, are you?
[07:50] <AOGuy1989> how
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> !universe
[07:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:50] <Xnix> snoops_ i cant imagine gl2 being fast without running Xgl
[07:50] <AOGuy1989> i just started today =P
[07:50] <AOGuy1989> sry
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: read that
[07:50] <SeraVitae> there's gotta be a way to disable my second video card.
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> kickmass: open up a terminal and type dig yahoo.com
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> kickmass: what do you get?
[07:51] <SeraVitae> nobody has any idea?
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> SeraVitae: bios
[07:51] <Tru7h> I can't get my live CD to boot up with my old laptop - any idea why?
[07:51] <Xnix> AOGuy1989 you really have to do a lot of reading to learn your way around, but once you do it'll be worth it :)
[07:51] <kickmass> I can't do that.. I have dual boot. I am using Windoows at the moment. :(
[07:51] <SeraVitae> fyrestrtr: the bios doesn't disable hardware like that..
[07:51] <Snoops_> Xnix yep I run xgl.. but I've run gl2 on standard x server too.. my machine is a beast though (4400+ amd, 7900gt, 2gig ram) so I guess that's why
[07:51] <keeperofdakeys> gaim keeps crashing and i've tried what it says in the faq
[07:51] <Xnix> SeraVitae you dont disable it you just dont use it, take the device section out of your xorg.conf
[07:51] <trisha> im using file browser
[07:51] <SeraVitae> xnix - fair enough.
[07:51] <kickmass> fyrestrtr: my problem description is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=120757cf307cf69a9a6e78b2ef5ac246&t=218035
[07:51] <Xnix> Snoops_ yeah you just made my mouth water
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> SeraVitae: ermm, yes, it does. most modern ones automatically disable the internal one if another is plugged in.
[07:52] <Corporal_Dirge> Xnix, What's XGL?
[07:52] <SeraVitae> I cant understand why aticonfig is crashing my pc then.
[07:52] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge openGL accelerated Xorg server, it offloads display computations to the graphics card
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> Xnix: eye candy :)
[07:52] <Tru7h> Can anybody tell me why my live CD doesn't boot up on my laptop?
[07:52] <Xnix> but you have to have a supported graphics card
[07:52] <Xnix> fyrestrtr right hehe
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> Tru7h: it could be a bad burn
[07:53] <Corporal_Dirge> I use an ATI-Mobility. What would be the best vo?
[07:53] <Tru7h> fyrestrtr: Nope, 'cause it works fine on my other computer.
[07:53] <Xnix> snoops_ does that card have 256-bit memory interface? the nvidia
[07:53] <Corporal_Dirge> Tru7h, BIOS settings?
[07:53] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge what kinda mobility
[07:53] <the_hammer> my apt-get is broken.  no matter what I try to install, it finishes by trying to configure clvm.  Apparently earlier I incorrectly installed clvm (the Logical Volume Manager).  Can anyone help me fix this?  Should I just apt-get remove clvm or will that cause more trouble?
[07:53] <Corporal_Dirge> ummm. I forget. lol
[07:53] <Tru7h> Corporal_Dirge: Not to familiar with modifying those.
[07:54] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge well you probably could/should be running XGL iof you want
[07:54] <kickmass> I can type IP address of google (64.233.167.99) in Firefox but www.google.com.au doesn't work.
[07:54] <Snoops_> Xnix uh huh
[07:54] <Xnix> XGL/compiz flies on my ati mobiltiy 9700
[07:54] <Snoops_> only the 256mb version though..
[07:54] <Xnix> i think anything with 128-bit memory interface or higher will fly nicely in XGL
[07:54] <fivre> is there any nondestructive way to convery NTFS to FAT32?
[07:54] <Xnix> Snoops_  nice :)  I want
[07:54] <Corporal_Dirge> Xnix, Ok, I'll do a little searching and see. Where should I start?
[07:54] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge well try this
[07:54] <fivre> besides copying a partition and making a new one?
[07:54] <Xnix> glxinfo | grep direct
[07:55] <Xnix> what does that output Corporal_Dirge
[07:55] <the_hammer> also i have a pastebin 8265
[07:55] <Tru7h> Corporal_Dirge: I'm used to simply going to the boot menu upon startup and choosing the "boot from CD" option.
[07:55] <Corporal_Dirge> direct rendering: No
[07:55] <Corporal_Dirge> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:55] <the_hammer> someone help me?
[07:55] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge you arent using the fglrx drivers
[07:55] <Xnix> which are the ATI binary drivers
[07:56] <Xnix> what does this tell you
[07:56] <Xnix> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx
[07:56] <Corporal_Dirge> Tru7h, Press del when you first start booting, make sure CDROM is before HDD
[07:56] <kickmass> fyrestrtr: If I upgrade from hoary to dapper, will it keep my data in the partition ?
[07:56] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18265
[07:56] <Xnix> kickmass if you do it right
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> kickmass: yes.
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> read the instructions in the wiki, its a painless process.
[07:57] <kickmass> ok, then I'll upgrade to dapper and try it from there..
[07:57] <the_hammer> someone help me pls? have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18265
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade > kickmass
[07:57] <kickmass> cool. :)
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> kickmass: your problem seems to be from your router or your isp if you can resolve some addresses but not others. Seems like one of your ISP's dns servers is not working properly.
[07:57] <Corporal_Dirge> Xnix, Nothing happens.
[07:57] <Tru7h> Corporal_Dirge: Thanks, I'll try that and let you know what happens.
[07:57] <dibblego> where can I find the future release schedule?
[07:58] <dibblego> !release
[07:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[07:58] <eclipse_gsx_> where do i go to get like genreral information on my computer...like something like my computer properties on an XP machine
[07:58] <Corporal_Dirge> wait, no wonder I already have that file open
[07:58] <kickmass> Yeah I think so. but why does windows work ?
[07:58] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge thats what i figured
[07:58] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge no, it should have returned nothing
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> kickmass: generally, ISPs provide two dns servers. Which ever one is listed first gets queried first. So if that one is not resolving properly, then the second one will be queried. I think this is what is happening in your situation.
[07:58] <Corporal_Dirge> I was looking at it, but I'm not good at decyphering it.
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> kickmass: because dns queries are cached :)
[07:59] <kickmass> but in this case, I am using IRC to chat and this needn't be cached ?
[07:59] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge sudo apt-get install xfree86-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-your-kernel-version
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> eclipse_gsx_: system > administration > device manager
[07:59] <Tru7h> Corporal_Dirge: Doesn't work. It goes to the Windows boot menu. Safe Mode, Safe Mode w/ Networking, etc.
[07:59] <AOGuy1981> ok so how do i amke it so ic an change ti.he file so i can get eh blue tooth thing i need
[07:59] <Xnix> Tru7h you have to figure out how to get itno yoru bios, might be escape or F1 or F2
[07:59] <eclipse_gsx_> thx fyrestrtr
[08:00] <ic56> /msg memoserv send ic56 <text>
[08:00] <Tru7h> Xnix: Thanks, I'll try those.
[08:00] <kickmass> afaik, DNS are just a list of records of IP address => FQDNs ???
[08:00] <Corporal_Dirge> Tru7h, It's diffrent for each computers hardware. try mashing all the F-keys at boot. (immediate boot, like when it does a ram test)
[08:01] <Xnix> it will also usually say on the screen
[08:01] <Xnix> press "blah" to enter setup
[08:01] <Xnix> or something
[08:01] <kickmass> So, I can legally use other ISPs DNS ????
[08:01] <Tru7h> Corporal_Dirge: Pretty sure I've reached the BIOS. How do I boot from the CD now?
[08:01] <Xnix> kickmass you can use any DNS you want
[08:01] <kickmass> no restrictions Xnix ?
[08:01] <Xnix> kickmass you can try out openDNS: openDNS.org i think
[08:02] <kickmass> :) thanx.
[08:02] <Xnix> kickmass if its a DNS on the internet and you can access it
[08:02] <Xnix> you can use it
[08:02] <kickmass> ok.. Wrote that down. cheers.
[08:02] <Corporal_Dirge> Go through the menu looking for boot order.
[08:02] <verbose> well, usually if there are restrictions the owner will setup acls for their service
[08:02] <Corporal_Dirge> Xnix, E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-your-kernel-version
[08:02] <AOGuy1981> ok so how do i amke it so ic an change ti.he file so i can get eh blue tooth thing i need
[08:02] <verbose> and you're asked not to use the root servers for personal use
[08:02] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge haha soryr, you have to replace the your-kernel-version with your kernel version ;)
[08:02] <verbose> but it's kind of a guideline, not an enforced 'rule'
[08:02] <Corporal_Dirge> Xnix, I also had to change xfree86 to the newer module
[08:03] <Xnix> uname -r will give it to you
[08:03] <Corporal_Dirge> Can I plug in 'uname -r' and make it work?
[08:03] <Xnix> yeah hehe
[08:03] <verbose> if you use ` not '
[08:03] <Corporal_Dirge> ok. =)
[08:03] <fatejudger> would it be bad if I asked an XGL related question in here, seeing as the though nobody is answering in the ubuntu-xgl channel?
[08:03] <AOGuy1981> ok so how do i amke it so ic an change ti.he file so i can get eh blue tooth thing i need??????
[08:03] <Xnix> yeah what verbose said too
[08:03] <Corporal_Dirge> '...`?
[08:03] <Corporal_Dirge> tilde?
[08:03] <verbose> yes, `uname -a`
[08:03] <Corporal_Dirge> err whatever it's called
[08:03] <Xnix> `uname -a`
[08:03] <verbose> the key to the left of 1
[08:03] <Corporal_Dirge> ok. thanks
[08:03] <verbose> back tick
[08:03] <kickmass> Xnix, fyrestrtr: I'll do the following now. 1) dig yahoo.com 2) Put opendns's Primary DNS and Secondary DNS in my router.  ??? Does that sound that'll solve my problem ?
[08:03] <jacky> can anyone tell me how to use cdimage to build a ubuntu cd?
[08:04] <jacky> cdimage: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/bzr/cdimage/mainline/
[08:04] <Corporal_Dirge> so... linux-restricted-modules`uname -r` ?
[08:04] <Xnix> kickmass should work
[08:04] <Corporal_Dirge> err... linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` ?
[08:04] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge yeah second one
[08:04] <verbose> Corporal_Dirge: that should do it
[08:04] <Tru7h> Corporal_Dirge: Found a field called "boot configuration". Modified "Boot First Device" to rad "CD/DVD/CD-RW Drive".
[08:05] <Tru7h> read*
[08:05] <Corporal_Dirge> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-module-2.6.15-26-386
[08:05] <crimsun> it's not module, it's modules
[08:05] <Corporal_Dirge> Tru7h, Give it a shot now. Save and exit.
[08:05] <Xnix> Tru7h that should do it, try rebooting now
[08:05] <Tru7h> Corporal_Dirge: It worked! Thanks. =D
[08:05] <Xnix> save your settings in bios before you do
[08:06] <Xnix> Tru7h  awesome :)
[08:06] <Xnix> Snoops_ so how does that card run with compiz
[08:06] <Xnix> need I ask
[08:06] <Tru7h> Xnix: Yep. I was able to get to a boot menu before, but it gave me only one option(Windows) and was getting frusterating.
[08:06] <Corporal_Dirge> Xnix, Ok, looks like it's going. Thanks.
[08:06] <Tru7h> Xnix: *installs Ubuntu*
[08:06] <Tru7h> w00t
[08:06] <bbe> Hi
[08:06] <Tru7h> That's 3 computers now. :P
[08:06] <Zambezi> Anyone know how I can make to Waringmessages in Azureus disappear?
[08:07] <Xnix> Zambezi no but i have the same issue and its so annoying
[08:07] <verbose> Zambezi: same here!
[08:07] <verbose> i switched to bit tornado
[08:07] <Xnix> man they need to fix that stuff
[08:07] <verbose> azureus pissed me off so bad and ate so much cpu
[08:07] <AOGuy1981> .....
[08:07] <verbose> java just isn't 'there' yet
[08:07] <Xnix> i can only use azureus b/c i have traffic throttling from my ISP
[08:07] <Xnix> so i need header encryption
[08:07] <Xnix> to get any speed over 2k/s
[08:07] <Corporal_Dirge> Zambezi, the new beta fixes that I hear. But I haven't upgraded yet either so I have that issue too.
[08:07] <ayot> halloo
[08:07] <AOGuy1981> why can't i cahnge the file so i can get the file i need for bluetooth
[08:07] <col-panic> quick question, is it a bad idea to add dapper multiverse if Im on breezy ?
[08:08] <col-panic> multi/uni?
[08:08] <Tru7h> Does anybody know if there's a way to run .app files on Ubuntu?
[08:08] <crimsun> col-panic: yes.
[08:08] <Xnix> col-panic i would imagine so
[08:08] <Madpilot> col-panic, yes
[08:08] <ic56> Trying to install RealPlayer.  Downloaded the file that the apt-get wrapper said I should -- RealPlayer10GOLD.bin.  chmod a+x.  When I run it it complains: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: ... No such file or directory.  Suggestions?
[08:08] <verbose> Tru7h: what type of file is a .app ?
[08:08] <col-panic> I dont plan on installing any mission-critical stuff..
[08:08] <noiesmo> I have a kubuntu system I was tring to build from source on and it needed the kde headers but i had a conflict thru apt so I used aptitude to try and resolve the conflicts it then removed a heap of files now that system cannot resolve names ie internet or apt-get or xchat etc and I get an operation not permitted when i try and ping from the affected system
[08:08] <Xnix> Tru7h whats a .app file?
[08:08] <Tru7h> verbose: A Macintosh executible.
[08:08] <crimsun> ic56: realplayer10 is in the commercial repo.
[08:08] <Xnix> Tru7h no
[08:08] <verbose> Tru7h: it probably won't run
[08:08] <verbose> without some sort of emulator that is
[08:08] <Tru7h> verbose: Alrighty.
[08:09] <Xnix> vmware may do it
[08:09] <Xnix> with an x86 versoin of osX
[08:09] <Xnix> but i havent heard of this working
[08:09] <Zambezi> Xnix, verbose, Corporal_Dirge This fix it. I asked in two places. :-) http://azureus.sf.net/cvs
[08:09] <Madpilot> col-panic, "mission critical" or not, Dapper repos in Breezy won't work, and will probably wreck your box
[08:09] <Tru7h> verbose: Anybody know what the Ubuntu disk requirements are?
[08:09] <verbose> Zambezi: cool, thanks
[08:09] <Xnix> hehe cool Zambezi thanks!~
[08:09] <ic56> crimsun: yes.  Is there a non-commercial alternative for dealing with commercially-encoded sound files?
[08:09] <Tru7h> ^^Sorry, meant to be adressed to everybody
[08:09] <Xnix> Tru7h i think default install is less than 2 gigs
[08:09] <verbose> yeah
[08:10] <Tru7h> Alright, no problems then.
[08:10] <col-panic> Madpilot: debian repos in breezy havent 'wrecked' anything :S
[08:10] <verbose> definitely
[08:10] <crimsun> ic56: sure, w32codecs+{mplayer,vlc,gxine,...}
[08:10] <AOGuy1981> ok eariler u gave me a link to somthing that told me to edit a file ot allow something so ic an get a file but it won;t let me edit hte file cause i am not th e owner
[08:10] <Tru7h> Sorry for all the questions. :P
[08:10] <Xnix> Tru7h np
[08:10] <Madpilot> col-panic, you're lucky, then, because those can break your Ubuntu too
[08:10] <Xnix> col-panic i know i wouldnt wanna be using that box
[08:10] <verbose> AOGuy1981: use sudo
[08:10] <AOGuy1981> i did
[08:10] <AOGuy1981> i wouldn't do
[08:11] <verbose> AOGuy1981: is the file in use currently?
[08:11] <col-panic> and Im sure 'su' will break it too lol
[08:11] <verbose> what exactly does it do
[08:11] <AOGuy1981> i dunn0
[08:11] <ic56> crimsun: will these be less or more hassle to install than RealPlayer? I have no sound and have no experience with setting up sound
[08:11] <AOGuy1981> it is source.list
[08:11] <verbose> what is the exact command you're typing
[08:11] <verbose> and the error message
[08:11] <AOGuy1981> sec\
[08:12] <jmworx> Anyone here got hyperthreading to work with Dapper?
[08:12] <AOGuy1981> what was the line to go the bluetooth thing again
[08:12] <noiesmo> the system obtains an ip address automatically thru dhcp can ssh other system within network just no name resolution happenen
[08:13] <jmworx> I added ht=on to my menu.list and enabled hyperthreading in the bios. No luck. Any other magic/undocumented thing I need to do?
[08:13] <verbose> noiesmo: can it ping hosts on the internet by ip address?
[08:13] <verbose> in other words, are you sure it's dns and not routing that's the problem
[08:13] <noiesmo> verbose, no when i ping i get operation nnot allowed
[08:13] <Tru7h> What's the Linux equivalent of 'tracert'?
[08:13] <crimsun> ic56: why not just install it from the commerical repo?
[08:13] <verbose> jmworx: you have to make sure htt support is in your kernel
[08:13] <verbose> Tru7h: traceroute
[08:14] <Tru7h> verbose: Thanks. :) Looks like you've been using this OS for awhile.
[08:14] <Xnix> Tru7h traceroute
[08:14] <AOGuy1981> verbose it was sudo something something something gnome-bluetooth
[08:14] <jmworx> verbose: How do I check that?
[08:14] <Tru7h> Same with Xnix. :P
[08:14] <Xnix> damn verbose keeps beating me, i should just stop
[08:14] <Xnix> :P
[08:14] <CaptainMorgan> what's the line for packing files all at once inot a tar.gz?   I recall something like: tar -cf - foo.c bar.c foobay.c | gzip -c > fooprogram ?
[08:14] <verbose> Xnix: :P
[08:14] <SeraVitae> how come when i change my xorg.conf file and my pc hangs, when i reboot it works again? its like it doesnt even save the conf or something.
[08:14] <verbose> CaptainMorgan: tar czf blah.tgz real-file
[08:14] <Tru7h> Hmm, my shell isn't accepting "traceroute" as a command.
[08:14] <jmworx> verbose: I'm using the default Dapper kernel (2.6.15-26)
[08:15] <verbose> that tars and gzips
[08:15] <Xnix> Tru7h you may have to install it
[08:15] <verbose> Tru7h: apt-get install traceroute
[08:15] <Xnix> hah!
[08:15] <Xnix> :P
[08:15] <Tru7h> lol
[08:15] <Tru7h> Thanks.
[08:15] <verbose> Xnix: :(
[08:15] <verbose> hah
[08:15] <ic56> crimsun: that is what I'm doing.  But "apt-get installed realplayer" displays a message that says to download a file from a website.  I'm just following the instructions, till I get to the missing libraries.  Can you help?
[08:15] <ironfroggy> how do i configure an ntfs partition to be mountable for normal users?
[08:15] <Xnix> ic56 apt-get install realplayer
[08:15] <Xnix> not installed ?
[08:16] <SeraVitae> is there any way to stop X automatically starting on startup
[08:16] <verbose> ironfroggy: if you add to /etc/fstab user in the 4th column a normal user can mount it
[08:16] <Xnix> ironfroggy do you want to write to it?
[08:16] <ic56> Xnix: It displays a prompt that says to download a file from a website.  Have you done this yourself?
[08:16] <Xnix> ic56 nope, i dont have any desire for realplayer, just thought that might be your problem
[08:16] <AOGuy1981> verbose michael@michael-ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth
[08:16] <AOGuy1981> Password:
[08:16] <AOGuy1981> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:16] <AOGuy1981> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:16] <ironfroggy> ive done that. but its being mounted with permissions only for root.
[08:16] <thejnaitor> how do I run a bash script?
[08:16] <boxgamex> is real alternative on linux?
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1981: close synaptic
[08:16] <Xnix> ironfroggy you cant write to ntfs if thats what you mean?
[08:17] <AOGuy1981> wtf is that
[08:17] <verbose> thejnaitor: bash <bashscript>
[08:17] <noiesmo> verbose, any other suggestions to look at for my dns issue. this system I am talking on is on the same network and obtains ip from same dhcp server etc
[08:17] <ironfroggy> last i knew that wasnt stable, so i wont risk writing to it.
[08:17] <AOGuy1981> i am new i jsut started
[08:17] <Madpilot> boxgamex, no, but you don't need it
[08:17] <thejnaitor> thank you verbose
[08:17] <Xnix> AOGuy1981 just means you are using apt somewhere else
[08:17] <Xnix> AOGuy1981 you'll have to wait for it to finish
[08:17] <crimsun> ic56: apt-cache policy realplayer
[08:17] <Corporal_Dirge> Xnix, They're improving software to help write to NTFS, but it's not complete yet.
[08:17] <verbose> noiesmo: can you ping 4.2.2.2 ?
[08:18] <liurd> quit
[08:18] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge i know :)
[08:18] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge you can write to one right now, but you risk screwing the whole partition
[08:18] <fivre> Corporal_Dirge: it works, it just destroys the drive when windows boots
[08:18] <verbose> i've been testing ntfs-3g and so far so good, but yeah, definitely i wouldn't trust it for anything important
[08:18] <Xnix> its not worth it
[08:18] <noiesmo> verbose, result is ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[08:18] <fivre> or so I hear
[08:18] <Xnix> fivre haha yeah
[08:19] <Xnix> thats why i just avoid using ntfs alltogether
[08:19] <Sakireth> !automatix
[08:19] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[08:19] <GhettoPuNKkiD> can anyone recommend a good streaming video server besides vlc
[08:19] <ironfroggy> so where are mountpoint permissions configured? i dont see anything in the fstab docs
[08:19] <ic56> crimsun: I ran the command.  It gives an installed version (actually, this is my second attempt at getting it to work -- I'm using dpkg-reconfigure).
[08:19] <verbose> noiesmo: i have no clue
[08:19] <noiesmo> verbose, ok thanks anyway
[08:19] <verbose> are you running any weird security software?
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> SeraVitae: see the manual page for update-rc.d
[08:19] <marcus__> hi
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: see the man page for mount
[08:20] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge once that stuff is done installing, in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf you should change "ati" to say "fglrx" and then restart X and see what happens, might make things a little better for you
[08:20] <marcus__> was wondering if someone could help me debug my network setup please?
[08:20] <Corporal_Dirge> Zambezi, How do I install the new Azureus? I'm not familiar with anything but Synaptic.
[08:20] <SeraVitae> fyrestrtr: thanks, i just went into recovery mode anyhow
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: just search for azureus in synaptic
[08:20] <ironfroggy> fyrestrtr: is there a way to simply use the permissions of the esisting mountpoint before its mounted?
[08:21] <verbose> noiesmo: are you running iptables?
[08:21] <Corporal_Dirge> Xnix, Ok, thanks. I'm encrypting a HDD, 8 hours left out of 27 hours.
[08:21] <Zambezi> Corporal_Dirge, Congrulation. Join my club. ;-) I don't know how to do it either. I don't know anything else than apt-get. ;-)
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: you can set the uid and gid in that the mount point is to have, and the umask of the files (all of this in the options column in fstab).
[08:21] <fivre> How necessary is it to run a firewall on ubuntu?
[08:21] <Xnix> Corporal_Dirge hahah must be some important stuff
[08:21] <Corporal_Dirge> fyrestrtr, That's not the newest Azureus,
[08:21] <epidemik> can anyone help me update from 5.1 to 6?
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: depending on what type of partition you are mounting, the options change. uid, gid and umask are almost universal though.
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> !update > epidemik
[08:22] <fivre> I know that one gets instantly bombed without one on Windows, but does the same hold true for linux?
[08:22] <Corporal_Dirge> Xnix, Nothing in it yet and I don't even kbow if this worked yet. Using Truecrypt.
[08:22] <Xnix> hehe cool
[08:22] <Xnix> encfs is pretty nice
[08:22] <crimsun> ic56: please pastebin the output, actually.
[08:22] <sagarp> is it possible to get gnome-terminal 2.15 in dapper, without having to compile all the depends?
[08:22] <Lathiat> fivre: well, out of the box, there are no services running
[08:22] <Xnix> for just encrypting directories inside of any filesystem you want
[08:22] <Lathiat> fivre: however that does start to change a bit if you install samba and other things
[08:22] <Lathiat> fivre: but out of the box its not really necesary because theres nothign to connect to
[08:23] <Xnix> its a lot more flexible than a full encrypted filesystem i think, but maybe not as fast/good
[08:23] <ic56> crimsun: ok, hang on
[08:23] <Corporal_Dirge> fyrestrtr, The new version is beta and not on synaptic yet.
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> fivre: depends on what you use your machine for. If its a front end server, then yes a firewall is necessary. For a personal machine, I personally think its also necessary, some don't. Its just so easy to configure might as well do it. The newer linux kernels (like the one in ubuntu) come with firewall capabilities, you just have to configure them.
[08:23] <epidemik> okay
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: since its just a java app, I don't see why you can't just download it and run it. However, I don't recommend you try beta java apps.
[08:24] <Tru7h> Whenever I try to use traceroute, I get the error "icmp socket: Operation not permitted".
[08:24] <caturOK> how to change rndc password
[08:24] <epidemik> whenever i try to use sudo apt-get install <package here> it says couldnt find that package.
[08:24] <verbose> Tru7h: try iptables -F ; iptables -X
[08:24] <verbose> then traceroute
[08:24] <Madpilot> epidemik, which packages?
[08:24] <Corporal_Dirge> fyrestrtr, I'm downloading it now. I hope it's that easy.
[08:25] <Zambezi> Xnix, verbose, Corporal_Dirge One guy said it help by replacing one file.
[08:25] <Xnix> Zambezi which file?
[08:25] <epidemik> listdc++5-3.3-dev
[08:25] <Tru7h> verbose: FATAL: Error inserting ip_tables...Operation not permitteed...etc
[08:25] <Xnix> Tru7h sudo
[08:25] <Xnix> Tru7h before the command
[08:25] <verbose> yeah
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> Tru7h: just install firestarter
[08:25] <Tru7h> Kay.
[08:26] <Madpilot> epidemik, that specific package doesn't exist in Ubuntu, that's why
[08:26] <ironfroggy> so is ntfs write support stable yet? havent tried it for years, but i cant get my samba server working right.
[08:26] <epidemik> oh...
[08:26] <epidemik> lol
[08:26] <Zambezi> Xnix, verbose, Corporal_Dirge azureus2.jar But I don't know where you can find it. Probably in the sources or prebuild. On thedownloadsectiopns on the homepacge.
[08:26] <epidemik> so what do i have to do to get it
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: you need to install libstdc?
[08:26] <epidemik> yeah
[08:26] <Xnix> Zambezi heh thats the whole program
[08:26] <Xnix> its akin to a zip file
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: its there libstdc++5-3.3-dev - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development files)
[08:27] <vinboy> why deborphan show win32codecs?? does that mean win32codecs is useless package?
[08:27] <Tru7h> Hmm... my Live CD has been booting for a good half hour.
[08:27] <epidemik> yeh but when i try it says "couldnt find package"
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> !info libstdc++5-3.3-dev
[08:27] <ubotu> libstdc++5-3.3-dev: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development files). In repository main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-10 (dapper), package size 756 kB, installed size 4512 kB
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: run sudo apt-get update
[08:28] <dasGewitter> yo, I have a simple networking question to ask
[08:28] <UncleD> Anyone here real familiar with pppoe (ie. connecting using a dsl which was configured using ppoeconf)?
[08:28] <epidemik> fyrestrtr: i did
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: then fix your repos
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> !ask
[08:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:28] <epidemik> fyrestrtr: how?
[08:28] <dasGewitter> UncleD: My question may be similar to yours
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <caturOK> use shorewall
[08:29] <caturOK> shorewall better then firestarter
[08:29] <epidemik> fyrestrtr: umm, im kindof a noob, what does that mean
[08:29] <UncleD> Im trying to get my ppp connection to reconnect if for some reason it disconnects, and to constantly try to connect to my isp until it's connected. For some reason, I boot up my machine, and if it doesn't properly connect via the ppp start-up scripts on bootup, it doesn't persistently retry.
[08:29] <UncleD> Any suggestions?
[08:29] <noiesmo> ok what files ie /etc/networking/interfaces /etc/resolv.conf are related to ip dns route
[08:29] <Hoxzer> where are w32codecs located in ubuntu?
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: :) sorry. It means use a service like pastebin, and post the contents of the file called /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > Hoxzer
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin
[08:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:29] <ironfroggy> !restrictedformats > ironfroggy
[08:30] <epidemik> fyrestrtr: so in terminal i type patebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:30] <verbose> noiesmo: try sudo iptables -F; iptables -X then try pinging
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> noiesmo: /etc/resolv.conf is for dns nameservers /etc/networking/interfaces defines the network interfaces in your system and how they are configured
[08:30] <dasGewitter> I've got a wireless router running from my adsl router/modem
[08:30] <dasGewitter> I can't use the internet
[08:30] <AOGuy1989> ok
[08:31] <ic56> crimsun: problem installing RealPlayer -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18267
[08:31] <AOGuy1989> here is what  i got when i did it again
[08:31] <AOGuy1989> michael@michael-ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth
[08:31] <AOGuy1989> Password:
[08:31] <AOGuy1989> Reading package lists... Done
[08:31] <AOGuy1989> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:31] <AOGuy1989> Package gnome-bluetooth is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:31] <Madpilot> epidemik, no, in terminal, type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:31] <dasGewitter> I can access my PPPoE through both routers, but I still can't access the internet
[08:31] <AOGuy1989> is only available from another source
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: no, you need to copy the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list (copy them to the clipboard. Open it in Text Editor and select everything, then hit ctrl+c). Then go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, create a new entry, paste the contents there, and then paste the link in this channel.
[08:31] <verbose> AOGuy1989: pastebin pastebin!
[08:31] <epidemik> fyrestrtr: okay lol NOOB
[08:31] <guvy> how to change rndc.key ?
[08:31] <noiesmo> verbose, nah same deal operation not permited or host unknown pending wheather i use number or name
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: are you on 6.06?
[08:31] <Madpilot> AOGuy1989, do you have the Universe repo enabled?
[08:31] <AOGuy1989> yes
[08:31] <AOGuy1989> i can't get it enabled
[08:32] <verbose> noiesmo: did you run iptables -F ; iptables -X ?
[08:32] <noiesmo> fyrestrtr, cheers just as i thought
[08:32] <guvy> any ideas?
[08:32] <verbose> that flushes iptables rules
[08:32] <verbose> and it sounds like iptables is blocking icmp
[08:32] <noiesmo> verbose, yep
[08:32] <crimsun> ic56: no, use the one in deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[08:32] <noiesmo> verbose, iptables -L returns no rules
[08:32] <AOGuy1989> how do u enable that
[08:32] <Xnix> alright well im out guys, later
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> !universe
[08:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:32] <verbose> later Xnix
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: read ^
[08:33] <AOGuy1989> how do i enable the universe thing
[08:33] <konrad``> what do I have to add to sources.list to get universe and multiverse
[08:33] <guvy> how to change rndc.key ?
[08:33] <AOGuy1989> i did i can;lt edit hte file
[08:33] <Hoxzer> fyrestrtr: well, I didn't find the actual location of w32codecs dll's
[08:33] <Tru7h> Xnix: See you, thanks for the help.
[08:33] <noiesmo> verbose, never using aptitude anagin
[08:33] <dasGewitter> Can anyone PM about my router question?
[08:33] <verbose> noiesmo: well, we need a way to see if it's a routing problem or dns
[08:33] <noiesmo> anagin/again
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: you need to use sudo to edit the file
[08:33] <AOGuy1989> HOW
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> Hoxzer: its on that page :)
[08:33] <AOGuy1989> i jsut  started today
[08:33] <noiesmo> verbose, yes
[08:33] <verbose> how about ssh apexseals.onefour.net
[08:33] <verbose> see if you get there
[08:33] <Serge> I've install windows after I installed Ubuntu on a different partition on the same drive. To get the grub boot menu back can I just reinstall grub using the CD?
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[08:33] <verbose> then we'll at least know where the problem lies
[08:33] <Madpilot> AOGuy1989, please read the links you're given...
[08:33] <guvy> how to change rndc.key ?
[08:34] <noiesmo> verbose, frustrating cause the system gets it ip from me smoothwall box
[08:34] <epidemik> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18268
[08:34] <verbose> do other machines using the same dhcp server work?
[08:34] <epidemik> is that right?
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> Serge: yes, and you can find out how to set it up properly by reading the grub entries in the wiki
[08:34] <noiesmo> verbose, name or service not known
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[08:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:34] <thejnaitor> how do I find a process id for a process?
[08:34] <verbose> noiesmo: well, you have a routing problem then
[08:35] <noiesmo> verbose, if i ssh 192.168.0.194 it works
[08:35] <noiesmo> verbose, ok
[08:35] <Serge> fyrestrtr, cheers
[08:35] <verbose> what does netstat -r show your default gateway as
[08:35] <epidemik> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18268
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: thanks, just a second.
[08:35] <noiesmo> verbose, 192.168.0.1 which is correxct
[08:36] <ironfroggy> are there no packages for Eclipse available?
[08:36] <epidemik> fyrestrtr: okay, about how long i gotta go in a second
[08:36] <verbose> god this sucks that ping isn't working
[08:36] <verbose> can you ssh to 192.168.0.1
[08:36] <Hoxzer> huh ...
[08:36] <verbose> if it's running sshd
[08:36] <verbose> or connect to any service running on 192.168.0.1
[08:36] <verbose> tcp service
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: you are on breezy?
[08:36] <Madpilot> ironfroggy, eclipse is in Universe repo
[08:37] <epidemik> fyrestrtr: yeah
[08:37] <noiesmo> verbose, can ssh 192.168.0.194 ssh not running on 192.168.01.
[08:37] <Hoxzer> ;/ I cant find it
[08:37] <ironfroggy> Madpilot: what is that? i mean, why arent all available packages.. well, available?
[08:37] <verbose> noiesmo: is anything running on 192.168.0.1?
[08:37] <Madpilot> ironfroggy, they are, but not by default
[08:37] <verbose> it sounds like your box isn't the problem, the smoothwall isn't routing your traffic
[08:37] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ironfroggy about repos
[08:38] <noiesmo> verbose, this laptop is atached to same box
[08:38] <noiesmo> verbose, all other ystems here go thru 192.168.0.1
[08:38] <verbose> can you ssh to 70.89.225.242 ?
[08:38] <kiroh> hi everyone knows why i'm getting checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no when i install a tarball????
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: okay uncomment (that means, remove the # at the beginning of the line) for line numbers 5, 6, 10, 11, 20, 21, 30, 31, 33, 34, 36, 37 and then save the file.
[08:38] <Tru7h> I'm beginning to wonder if my system is going to boot up at all.
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: then run sudo apt-get update again
[08:39] <Tru7h> The drive is spinning and the screen changes ocassionally, but it's just the splash screen half the time and blank the other half.
[08:39] <verbose> Tru7h: 30 minutes is way too long...i'd run hardware diagnostics on it
[08:39] <Tru7h> verbose: How do I do that?
[08:39] <kiroh> hi everyone knows why i'm getting checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no when i install a tarball????
[08:39] <AOGuy1989> after editing it still says that'
[08:39] <verbose> Tru7h: start by running memtest from the boot cd
[08:39] <noiesmo> verbose, no
[08:39] <verbose> if that passes maybe check the hard drive
[08:39] <verbose> noiesmo: what does it say, no route to host or something?
[08:39] <kiroh> hi everyone knows why i'm getting checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no when i install a tarball????
[08:40] <Tru7h> verbose: Not sure how to run anything from the boot CD. :) Sorry for my ignorance.
[08:40] <noiesmo> verbose, its like waiting
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> !repeat
[08:40] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:40] <garryF> We have no idea kiroh
[08:40] <epidemik> fyrestrtr: do i count the lines from the top?
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> epidemik: you will see the line numbers on the pastebin website :)
[08:40] <GhettoPuNKkiD> can someone help: xdtv: error while loading shared libraries: libXaw3d.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:40] <kiroh> garryF: but can it be because i have a missing pakage??
[08:40] <epidemik> kk
[08:40] <verbose> noiesmo: then it's not finding the host
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> kiroh: no, since you are installing from source.
[08:41] <verbose> it's for sure something between you and your router
[08:41] <Tru7h> verbose: How do I go about booting memtest from the CD?
[08:41] <verbose> Tru7h: reboot
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> Tru7h: type memtest86 at the boot: prompt
[08:41] <noiesmo> verbose, k
[08:42] <AOGuy1989> michael@michael-ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth
[08:42] <AOGuy1989> Reading package lists... Done
[08:42] <AOGuy1989> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:42] <AOGuy1989> Package gnome-bluetooth is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:42] <AOGuy1989> is only available from another source
[08:42] <Tru7h> I never got a boot prompt.
[08:42] <AOGuy1989> E: Package gnome-bluetooth has no installation candidate
[08:42] <AOGuy1989> Still not working after following directionsa on site
[08:42] <verbose> noiesmo: if you're running any kind of firewall software on that machine disable it
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> AOGuy1989: do not freakin' paste in here.
[08:42] <AOGuy1989> sry
[08:42] <verbose> hah
[08:42] <kiroh> any ideas about my problem???
[08:42] <garryF> Oh I bet, it is because it is checking to see if you are a maintainer of the code and if so, whether to activate any debug code the maintainer used. If the package works I would ignore the message.
[08:42] <AOGuy1989> they asked for the message earlier
[08:43] <verbose> i'm going to sleep
[08:43] <verbose> good luck noiesmo
[08:43] <noiesmo> verbose, ok just rebooting it for the hell of it then i'll check iptables etc also
[08:43] <Tru7h> verbose: See you. Thanks for the help.
[08:43] <noiesmo> verbose, cheers
[08:43] <verbose> Tru7h: np
[08:43] <verbose> bye
[08:44] <Dead_Karma> okay, i got it installed, didn't have to worry about setting up my internet connection, have what i wanted to keep from windows.  so, how would i format my other hard drive so ubuntu can use it?
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> Dead_Karma: install gparted and then use it to format your drive.
[08:44] <garryF> I wish this stupid irc front end would NOT send tells out public by default if I mispell the user's name.
[08:45] <Dead_Karma> okay.  thanks
[08:45] <garryF> A waste of bandwidth and  potentially embarrassing if I"m not sure of my answer.
[08:45] <kiroh> can someone help me installing a tarball???
[08:45] <Zambezi> Xnix, verbose, Corporal_Dirge This should do the trick http://torrents.aelitis.com:88/files/Azureus2403-B60.jar You can also join #azureus for support if you can't make it. The link to the homepage is: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[08:46] <kiroh> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> kiroh: first, what are you trying to install?
[08:47] <garryF> are you doing Sudo before compiling Kiroh?
[08:47] <garryF> or installing?
[08:47] <kiroh> garryF: yes, i want to install NetworkManager-0.6.4
[08:48] <garryF> good question fyrestrtr. He could be trying to install something that isn't made for this distro.
[08:48] <Dead_Karma> things on here might go easier than i thought.  course it'll take some use getting used to
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> !info network-manager
[08:48] <ic56> crimsun: sorry that took a while.  I'm on breezy (5.10)  I added to /etc/apt/sources.list this line (slightly modified from what you gave me): deb     http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu breezy-commercial main
[08:48] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework (daemon). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 532 kB
[08:49] <Madpilot> ic56, there is no breezy-commercial, afaik
[08:49] <ic56> crimsun: and it gives me errors about being unable to stat packages.
[08:49] <garryF> !info network-manager
[08:49] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework (daemon). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 532 kB
[08:49] <ic56> Madpilot: thanks.
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> ic56: there is no breezy-commercial
[08:50] <crimsun> ic56: sorry, you need to be using dapper to use that repo.
[08:50] <garryF> There you go Kiroh. Its already there in main repository pre-compiled for you to install. Just use package manager under System/Administration.
[08:50] <Dead_Karma> alright what do i want to format it to?
[08:51] <garryF> It?
[08:51] <redblades> Hey! Has anyone here used eyeOS?
[08:51] <knapper> Anyone care to help me with XLG/Compiz? :)
[08:51] <ic56> crimsun: ok.  Can we proceed with the breezy method?  Can you tell me which package to download to fix the original error (missing library)?
[08:51] <Dead_Karma> my other hard drive
[08:51] <Dead_Karma> sorry
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> knapper: #ubuntu-xgl
[08:51] <garryF> You installing Ubuntu to the other drive?
[08:51] <crimsun> ic56: libstdc++5
[08:52] <Dead_Karma> i installed ubuntu to my primary drive, now i want to format the other drive so that i can use it with ubuntu
[08:52] <z0r1> When I'm trying to mount my NTFS drive it says only root can mount to /home/z0rz/NTFS.mnt (I edited /etc/fstab) .. if I mount it with root ... then it says root can only view that NTFS mount .. is there a way around this?
[08:52] <ic56> crimsun: apt-cache search libstdc++5 gives no ouput.
[08:52] <garryF> ext3
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> z0r1: mount it with a less restrictive umask
[08:53] <Dead_Karma> thank you.  what are the differences between the ext's?
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> ic56: try just libstdc
[08:53] <garryF> ext2 non-journeling, less error protection but faster. Ext3, journeled version. More fault tolerant.
[08:53] <crimsun> ic56: apt-get install libstdc++5
[08:53] <Corporal_Dirge> Good news for people using Azureus. Simply replacing the jar file /usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar with the new one from the sf site fixes the "stuck warning" bug. Thanks Zambezi.
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> Dead_Karma: ext3 has journaling.
[08:53] <Dead_Karma> ah oaky thanks
[08:54] <Dead_Karma> i appreciate the help.  don't be surprised if i come in again for more help.  :)
[08:54] <Corporal_Dirge> Also, note that you should keep it named Azureus2.jar
[08:54] <Zambezi> Corporal_Dirge, No problem. We'll help each others here. :-)
[08:55] <garryF> I be surprised if ye don't. Linux is an interesting, fun if you let it be learning experience.
[08:55] <z0r1> fyrestrtr: /dev/hdc1       /home/z0rz/NTFS.Mnt     ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0   0
[08:55] <ic56> fyrestrtr, crimsun: thanks! installing libstdc++5.  Let's see if this will solve the problem...
[08:55] <z0r1> what should I make the umask?
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> z0r1: add user to the option column
[08:56] <Corporal_Dirge> I'm going to start testing it out on the newest release os xxxHOLiC Ep 15. (it's not as bad as the name makes it seem)
[08:56] <garryF> Hmm, umask=000 for ubuntu worked for me. I have to use 0222 for Red hat system.
[08:56] <Corporal_Dirge> err 14
[08:56] <z0r1> fyrestrtr: could you elaborate a little more?
[08:56] <axl000> how i fix the shutdown/reboot crash in dapper?
[08:57] <axl000> sorry for ny bad english
[08:57] <VeganCheesesteak> hi all...doing pretty good with my ubuntu setup so far...but im having trouble getting my bluetooth mouse to work. the bluetooth manager sees it...just cant do anything with it...any tips?
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> z0r1: user,nls=utf8,umask=0222
[08:57] <garryF> Give us more info, there are all kinds of crashes that can happen.
[08:57] <Corporal_Dirge> Is there a firewall on Ubuntu somewhere?
[08:57] <ic56> crimsun: that worked.  Now it wants to know where to install.  Is /opt/RealPlayer a good place?
[08:57] <crimsun> ic56: sure
[08:57] <garryF> Yes, by default, It is firestarter.
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: yes, but by default it allows everything through
[08:57] <garryF> wow
[08:58] <jimwhimpey> what does the username default to? you name?
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> no, by default its iptables :) firestarter is just a gui to configure iptables.
[08:58] <Corporal_Dirge> fyrestrtr, Well, I'm firewalled, but the router is set up right.
[08:58] <garryF> Yes, jimwhimpey
[08:58] <jimwhimpey> garryF: what's the exact format?
[08:58] <garryF> Thanks fyrestrtr
[08:58] <z0r1> what's the syntax for adding a user to the fstab option column?
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: what do you mean you are firewalled?
[08:58] <garryF> jimwhimpey all lower case.
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> z0r1: its a comma separated list of values.
[08:59] <garryF> jimwhimpey first name only
[08:59] <jimwhimpey> garryF: all one word?
[08:59] <jimwhimpey> ahhh cool
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> option1,option2=value2,option3, etc
[08:59] <jimwhimpey> cheers
[08:59] <Corporal_Dirge> fyrestrtr, My Bitorrent ports aren't getting through.
[08:59] <z0r1> so like umask=0222,user=z0rz,
[08:59] <z0r1> ?
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> z0r1: no.
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> I typed it up there for you, just read it.
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> 09:57 < fyrestrtr> z0r1: user,nls=utf8,umask=0222
[09:00] <garryF> I've had that issue. fyrestrtr seems to be the helper of the hour, I bet he knows. :)
[09:00] <garryF> or she
[09:00] <z0r1> oh I see it now .. thank you
[09:00] <garryF> taht is i had issues with bittorrent.
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: hrmm, how did you configure your router?
[09:00] <garryF> under linux
[09:00] <garryF> :)
[09:01] <RvGaTe> morning all
[09:01] <Corporal_Dirge> fyrestrtr, Same way it's been set up to forward the ports to this IP.. And the IP in Ubuntu is static.
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: are you running any firewall managing software? shorewall? firestarter? etc?
[09:02] <Corporal_Dirge> fyrestrtr, Not that I know of unless it was installed by default.
[09:02] <z0r1> Ahh!  Now it says the mount point /home/z0rz/ntfs.mnt does not exist when I clearly created that directory
[09:03] <Corporal_Dirge> what the heck? It started going through on it's own just now.
[09:03] <Hoovey> Would any of you happen to know how I would restore gnome to default?
[09:03] <Dead_Karm1> yold ya i'd be back
[09:03] <Dead_Karm1> maybe i should just keep this open till i go to bed
[09:03] <Hoovey> Because I made it look all funny and now it'd take too long to get it back..
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: so its working now?
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> Hoovey: you just want to change the theme or something else?
[09:03] <garryF> Could the mount point be choking on the dot?
[09:03] <Corporal_Dirge> fyrestrtr, Yeah, odd.
[09:03] <Hoovey> No
[09:04] <Hoovey> Restore it to complete default
[09:04] <Dead_Karm1> okay so.  now it's saying that it can't mount the second drive
[09:04] <Hoovey> would apt-get install ubuntu-desktop do it?
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: i've had that happen to me before also. I don't know what it is to be honest, I suspect something to do with the trackers.
[09:04] <garryF> Not using the same mount point for multiple drives are you? Can create all kinds of ulcer producing fun.
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> Hoovey: yes, that would.
[09:04] <Hoovey> okay
[09:04] <Hoovey> brb
[09:05] <Dead_Karm1> who me?  wouldn't know
[09:05] <Corporal_Dirge> Hoovey, I don't know if that would overwtite existing settings though.
[09:05] <z0r1> WOW
[09:05] <z0r1> THat was about the scariest thing ever
[09:05] <z0r1> I'm glad it was mounted -ro
[09:05] <Corporal_Dirge> fyrestrtr, Well, I had grc do a check. That's when it opened up.
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> ntfs is a scary beast.
[09:06] <z0r1> I just did rm -r ntfs.mnt and some how it was mounted ...
[09:06] <garryF> If you don't know Dead_Karm1, than that is possibly the problem. You need to have unique mount points for each drive you want to mount. Think what happens if you try to put the same named file in the same directory, they can't co-exist.
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> it needs 8 MB of overhead just to keep track of files :)
[09:06] <garryF> Its nice try file system.
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> z0r1: you can always check what is mounted by typing 'mount'
[09:06] <amit> any one having idea of ck-erp
[09:07] <garryF> !ck-erp
[09:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about ck-erp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> amit: what is it?
[09:07] <UncleD> Can anyone take a look at this pastebin and explain why this happen. The first 15 times (I manually typed pon dsl-provider) it wouldn't connect, then it finally connected. http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/xHWJAv70.html
[09:07] <z0r1> Yeah well I did .. then I went to "Computer" and double clicked on the drive .. and nothing happend .. so I was going to go back to the mount directory and re create it because it was created by root .. and not by z0rz ... and it turned out that it mounted it.. Anyways,
[09:07] <amit> its a open source free ERP/CRM
[09:08] <z0r1> Thank you for your help I got it working now
[09:08] <z0r1> Now I just need to figure out how to get -rw working
[09:08] <Dead_Karm1> how would i change it?  i believe that c is listed as hda and that d is listed as hdb
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> z0r1: that's not completely supported.
[09:09] <garryF> Your isp seems to hate PPoE UncleD
[09:09] <garryF> or network card.
[09:09] <z0r1> well I was reading an article on it .. I know it's not completely supported .. but it's possible .. just not stable
[09:10] <UncleD> garryF: How can I make a script that does pon dsl-provider if i get disconnected?
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> UncleD: initial guess suggests that you need to launch the pppoe after your network card has been initialized.
[09:10] <JohnnyPhive> Anyone have any experience with PXE boot to perform a network boot?  I need to boot from Linux iso on my laptop over the network on a computer that doesn't have a cd-rom drive or a floppy drive, but the motherboard supports network boot, although the manual for it doesnt say anything about it besides list it as a feature
[09:10] <bbe> uh
[09:10] <garryF> !script
[09:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about script - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:10] <bbe> quick question
[09:10] <UncleD> garryF: currently, if for some reason my isp disconnects me, it doesn't reconnect automatically
[09:10] <garryF> !scripts
[09:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about scripts - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[09:10] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[09:10] <garryF> Ubuntu get its memory eraxed.
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> !abuse
[09:10] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:11] <Dead_Karm1> so garry, how would i change the mount point?
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> oh hrmm, wrong one
[09:11] <Corporal_Dirge> UncleD, Are you connected through a router?
[09:12] <garryF> Create new directory, go to terminal sudo gkedit /etc/fstab and change the mount point to point at the new directory.
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> UncleD: I'm not sure about the script thing, but I would investigate any gui for pppoe first before resorting to writing scripts.
[09:12] <UncleD> Corporal_Dirge: No, I plug right into a dsl modem
[09:12] <Dead_Karm1> ummm, okay
[09:12] <UncleD> fyrestrtr: Well, it's connected now. I want to know how to detect when it disconnects.
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> UncleD: a simple way would be to ping something on the net.
[09:13] <Corporal_Dirge> UncleD, Have you connected to the modem to see if it has a 'keep-alive' option or a 'disconnect when idle' option?
[09:13] <axl000> how i fix the shutdown/reboot crash touble in dapper?  msg me
[09:13] <z0r1> Now what are the things I need to do to get xvid/divx and DVDs to play on ubuntu?
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> UncleD: the way I would do it is to monitor the log for any messages, and then reconnect. But doing so at an interval could get tedious. I suggest you follow Dirge's option.
[09:14] <ic56> crimsun: It looks like RealPlayer installed. However, when I try to play a .mp3 file, it complains: "Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it."  I'm not running any sound apps that I know of.  Could GNOME itself be locking the device?  Or maybe the device isn't there?  The motherboard has an on-board sound chip.  dmesg reports: "isapnp: Card 'CS4236B'.  Suggestions?
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > z0r1
[09:14] <ic56> crimsun: thank you for your help with installing RealPlayer
[09:14] <crimsun> ic56: realplayer uses oss solely.
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> ic56: any particular reason you are using realplayer to play mp3s?
[09:14] <crimsun> ic56: to help it play nicely with other audio apps, install alsa-oss from universe, and use ``aoss realplay''
[09:15] <GhettoPuNKkiD> xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[09:15] <GhettoPuNKkiD> oops
[09:15] <Dead_Karm1> it said gkedit not found
[09:15] <garryF> Axl000 If you change your login to something that uses no confusing characters like zeros where O's should be, and other dewdspeak, you would probably get more answers.
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> Dead_Karm1: did you mean gedit ?
[09:15] <GhettoPuNKkiD> can someone tell me if its possible to watch tv with tvtime over the network (im trying with freenx) but tvtime won't load
[09:15] <garryF> gedit, Sorry
[09:16] <Dead_Karm1> it was something that garry told me to do.  copy pasted.  i'll try that then
[09:16] <garryF> I was wrong
[09:16] <anders_> hello
[09:16] <garryF> mispelled the name
[09:16] <garryF> My fault, I meant to say gedit
[09:17] <cappie> hello
[09:17] <ic56> fyrestrtr: I've never done sound before.  I tried the apps that came with ubuntu and none worked.  Websites point you to RealPlayer so I figured I'd go with the flow rather than fight it.  I'd prefer a free solution but I've never had sound under Linux.  I don't even know if the earphones are plugged into the right socket and if that is supposed to work.  Total sound newbie here.
[09:17] <Dead_Karm1> what am i looking for?  what i see makes no sense
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> ic56: what website told you to go with realplayer?
[09:17] <noiesmo> crimsun, hey got hassle on a system with dns and route it has ip from smoothwallbox, it gets ip but cannot ping or resolve names from the system  I have disabled iptables and flushed also firewall disabled but still get unknown host or ping: sndmsg: operation not permitted message any ideas
[09:18] <garryF> I went through that hell about sound. if I remember what I did to fix it, I'll let you know. its been awhile.
[09:18] <ic56> fyrestrtr: I don't remember.  I gave up 3 months ago and picked up again today.
[09:18] <garryF> !sound
[09:18] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> ic56: there are *far* better options than realplayer (in both Windows and *nix). For example, xmms, beep, banshee, rythmbox, etc.
[09:18] <garryF> That might help ye.
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> ic56: first thing I would do, get rid of realplayer. Then, install the mp3 codecs as listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats -- then just double click on a mp3 file :)
[09:19] <garryF> I hated realplayer, it would turn off all sound and then spit on me when I tried to use it.
[09:19] <UncleD> Will this cause a script to run every hour, all 24 hours of the day: 0 0-12 * * * /root/script
[09:19] <Dead_Karm1> garry, what am i looking for?
[09:20] <spades> 0 * * * * would be every hour at the 0 minute mark iirc
[09:20] <ic56> fyrestrtr: thank you.  I will try that.  I already have xmms, hopefully it will work once I add the codecs
[09:20] <UncleD> spades: I think it's 0 0-23 * * * /root/script
[09:20] <garryF> in terminal type ... sudo gedit /etc/fstab and change the mount points so they point to unique existing directories. test it with mount -a to test without having to reboot.
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> UncleD: 0 * * * * /root/script
[09:20] <UncleD> 0 0-23 * * * /root/script and 0 * * * * are the same, right?
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> yes.
[09:21] <Dead_Karm1> okay i'll send you in private if you don't mind what is on the screen.  i can,'t see where anything is the same
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> but 0-23 is the same as *
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> in the hour column anyway.
[09:21] <amadeo1988> How do i run file manager with su priveledges?
[09:21] <amit> hey i am using Konica 7022 copier+printer +scanner how to install it in ubuntu
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> amit: system > administration > printing
[09:22] <garryF> should automatically prompt, or just use sudo followed by command to run file manager.
[09:22] <garryF> wait file manager? Nm, that's different story
[09:22] <noiesmo> amit, also check on linuxprinting.org for printer support
[09:22] <amadeo1988> whats the terminal command to run file manager?
[09:22] <UncleD> What is the crontab for doing something every minute
[09:22] <spades> * * * * *
[09:22] <amit> Ash-Fox* goodmorning. I am using konics 7022 copier+printer+scanner on TCP/IP port how to install this in ubuntu 6.
[09:23] <ubuntu> well im here
[09:23] <Corporal_Dirge> amadeo1988, Do you mean gksudo nautilus ?
[09:23] <fivre> omg ubuntu in #ubuntu
[09:23] <garryF> I'm getting rummy. I'm going to log before I get so rummy I tell someone to install vmware on a commodore.
[09:23] <Corporal_Dirge> I think that would wotk, but I'm still n00b.
[09:23] <fivre> what shall we do?
[09:23] <amadeo1988> i dont know waht nautilus is.. but i want to copy files to /etc/ /usr/ /opt/ using file manager
[09:24] <help> hi all
[09:24] <amadeo1988> it tells me i dont have priveledges
[09:24] <help> i need help
[09:24] <garryF> Nautilis is the gnome file brouser app
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> amadeo1988: why? what files?
[09:24] <noiesmo> !ask
[09:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:24] <noiesmo> !anyone
[09:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> amadeo1988: normally, you don't need to touch these directories.
[09:24] <UncleD> What is teh crontab for doing something every 30 seconds?
[09:24] <amadeo1988> Cedega
[09:24] <Dead_Karm1> please can you atleast tell me where i need to make that change at?
[09:24] <spades> UncleD minutes are the minimum iirc
[09:24] <Corporal_Dirge> amadeo1988, Tat should work then. Nautilus is ubuntus GUI file manager
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> UncleD: this is not the crontab tutorial channel.
[09:24] <garryF> I dunno, man chrontab should help you.
[09:24] <rpedro> amadeo1988: you definitly don't wan't to use a graphical file manager to copy files to those directories
[09:25] <Dead_Karm1> alright thanks
[09:25] <help> ok so i got the iso and burned and booted from it and i ran the install thing and it dissapeared 15% through i chose the right partition but how do i boot from my HDD not the disc every time
[09:25] <rpedro> amadeo1988: use console commands 'cp' 'mv' etc to do that
[09:25] <ic56> fyrestrtr: when the instructions say to get gstreamer0.8-mad do add MP3 capability to GStreamer, does XMMS or Rhythmbox or Totem benefit from this?
[09:25] <amadeo1988> alright
[09:25] <amadeo1988> i do
[09:25] <spades> UncleD you can try */120 * * * *  but im not sure if it would work
[09:25] <amadeo1988> but i get this error messege
[09:25] <amadeo1988> ere i ll show you
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> ic56: yes.
[09:25] <help> ok so i got the iso and burned and booted from it and i ran the install thing and it dissapeared 15% through i chose the right partition but how do i boot from my HDD not the disc every time
[09:25] <amadeo1988> jpowell@bunyipbox:~$ cp usr/* /usr/
[09:25] <amadeo1988> cp: omitting directory `usr/bin'
[09:25] <amadeo1988> cp: omitting directory `usr/lib'
[09:25] <amadeo1988> cp: omitting directory `usr/share'
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> help: when its done installing, just remove the cdrom and reboot the machine. It will boot from the hard disk.
[09:26] <brynk> help, ejecting the disc should help :)
[09:26] <Corporal_Dirge> help, take the CD out
[09:26] <spades> UncleD in fact, dont try it, wait for someone else to respodn
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> amadeo1988: 1. don't paste in here please. 2. use sudo
[09:26] <ic56> fyrestrtr: in that case, it turns out I'd already tried that 3 months ago.  Perhaps you can help me figure out what to do next.  Which of those 3 apps are you most comfortable with, to guide me?
[09:26] <garryF> Possibly you have a power save option running help
[09:26] <help> it never said install finished it dissapeared before it finished i took the cd out and restarted and it went to my other partition
[09:26] <amadeo1988> i still get omitting directory
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> ic56: what is the problem exactly?
[09:26] <amadeo1988> what does that mean
[09:27] <lab2std_> 
[09:27] <lab2std_> 
[09:27] <lab2std_> 
[09:27] <Dead_Karm1> just to start over when i try to open my second hdd it claims that error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable, so how would i fix that?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> amadeo1988: cp by default will copy files, not directories. cp -r will recursively copy files and directories. See man cp
[09:27] <garryF> I beter  log befoer I go brain dead. Gnight all
[09:27] <Corporal_Dirge> help, try using another resolution, the install actally has a gui.
[09:27] <amadeo1988> Alright
[09:27] <amadeo1988> Thanks.. would it work if i made those folders inside of /usr/
[09:27] <amadeo1988> etc
[09:27] <amadeo1988> and just made sure they were there
[09:28] <ic56> fyrestrtr: I don't understand the GUI.  What do I click on to open a file?  Wait, xmms actually *has* a manpage.  Wow!  Let's see if I can run it CLI
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> amadeo1988: still don't know what you are trying to do.
[09:28] <UncleD> If im running a crontab every minute and don't want to get a mail for each of them, how do I stop it from sending me emails every time?
[09:28] <amadeo1988> im trying to copy files into /etc/ /usr/ /opt/
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> ic56: xmms is like winamp. To open a file, hit the eject button.
[09:28] <amadeo1988> thats all thats important
[09:28] <ironfroggy> is it possible to write the install ISO to a harddrive?
[09:28] <ubuntu> so everyone here is useing ubantu??
[09:28] <hads|home> UncleD: Make sure the command has no output
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> amadeo1988: read the manual page for cp
[09:29] <ironfroggy> such that i can then boot from that harddrive to install onto another?
[09:29] <amadeo1988> alright thanks
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> amadeo1988: what program did you use in windows to play mp3s?
[09:30] <amadeo1988> Winamp
[09:30] <jeff_> hey guys
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> amadeo1988: sorry, wrong person.
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> ic56: what program did you use in windows to play mp3s?
[09:30] <jeff_> does anybody here use Listen for podcasts?
[09:30] <Corporal_Dirge> jeff_, I do.
[09:30] <ic56> fyrestrtr: no experience with sound in windows either, sorry.  but command line worked intuitively -- and gave me an error:  Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory.  Am I correct in concluding that ubuntu hasn't recognized my on-board sound chip?
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> ic56: sound works otherwise, or no?
[09:31] <Corporal_Dirge> jeff_, Wait, Listen or listen? lol
[09:31] <jeff_> Corporal_Dirge: im trying to add 'http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed_mp3.xml' to my podcasts and it keeps not working
[09:31] <amadeo1988> whats the command to delete a file? or delete a foler?
[09:31] <ic56> fyrestrtr: never used sound before.
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> ic56: you don't hear sounds in gnome, even the system sounds?
[09:31] <cpk2> amadeo1988: rm
[09:31] <amadeo1988> thanks
[09:31] <jeff_> Corporal_Dirge: Listen, Just Listen (the gnome media player)
[09:31] <UncleD> hads|home: Would this be right? /usr/bin/pon dsl-provider&>>/dev/null
[09:31] <ic56> fyrestrtr: GNOME has system sounds? Huh...
[09:32] <labreche> Hi everybody
[09:32] <Corporal_Dirge> jeff_, Make sure the XML is in the correct format. There's all sorts of RSS reeds.
[09:32] <Ale1> Woot, I officially suck
[09:32] <Corporal_Dirge> Some are specific to proprietary formats.
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> ic56: yeah. Or, do this. See if you have an Examples directory in your home directory. There are some sound files in there.
[09:32] <Ale1> I corrupted my x files while exiting terminal
[09:32] <labreche> is there a ubuntu development oriented derivative distro ?
[09:33] <Ale1> it was installing some x update
[09:33] <Dead_Karm1> here we go i've a good one.  how do i tell the comp i'm the owner?
[09:33] <cpk2> sudu?
[09:33] <Dead_Karm1> i think that might be part of the problem
[09:33] <cpk2> oops sudo
[09:34] <jeff_> Corporal_Dirge: what formats can Listen handle? im trying to add the UbuntuOS podcast
[09:34] <Alex0r> woot
[09:34] <Madpilot> Dead_Karm1, are  you using the account you created during the installation of Ubuntu?
[09:34] <Dead_Karm1> yes
[09:34] <Madpilot> then you should be able to use sudo
[09:34] <Alex0r> this sounds dumb but how do i allow root to login
[09:34] <Madpilot> !sudo
[09:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:34] <Alex0r> type sudo su
[09:34] <Madpilot> Alex0r, that's not a good idea at all
[09:34] <Alex0r> and then put in your password
[09:34] <Alex0r> why?
[09:34] <UncleD> if I want no output for a command, is this correct? /usr/bin/pon dsl-provider&>>/dev/null
[09:35] <Corporal_Dirge> jeff_, I'll install too. =) I want to hear it now too. Is Listen installed by default?
[09:35] <Madpilot> Alex0r, there's no really good reason to let root log in...
[09:35] <Dead_Karm1> i'm not expert with the terminal, so what would i do now?  i'd like to get access to my other hard drive before i go to bed
[09:35] <ic56> fyrestrtr: don't have a ~/Examples/.  Maybe we should start with something more basic.  Where do I plug in the earphones?  There be 3 holes in the back of that thar computah...  Red one has a microphone icon -- it aint' that.  Then there's green and blue but I can't tell which does what, curse the icon designers.  Wish they'd use English.  Or any language -- at least I could look that up in a dictionary...  Help!
[09:35] <jeff_> Corporal_Dirge: no, im pretty sure you can download the dapper package off the site
[09:36] <Dead_Karm1> i think it thinking that i'm not the owner is the problem
[09:36] <jeff_> Corporal_Dirge: http://listengnome.free.fr/
[09:36] <jeff_> Corporal_Dirge: this is the podcast im trying to add: http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/#
[09:36] <donvella> whats a good dvd shrink replacement?
[09:36] <noiesmo> xdvdshrink
[09:36] <donvella> lolism
[09:37] <donvella> why thank you
[09:37] <cpk2> Dead_Karm1: sudo mount
[09:37] <Alex0r> root login = good because i can easily replace system files
[09:37] <Alex0r> T_T
[09:37] <Dead_Karm1> i take it that sudo is a big thing with the terminal.  :)
[09:37] <void^> gui and root doesn't mix well
[09:38] <Alex0r> oh
[09:38] <bbrazil> Dead_Karm1: gksudo for gui stuff
[09:38] <Alex0r> well can i do it?
[09:38] <Alex0r> i need to replace like 300 files
[09:38] <donvella> nope, cant find xdvdshrink dude.
[09:38] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, that's an RSS2 feed. Does Listen support that?
[09:38] <ToHellWithGA> Alex0r: you could do "sudo su" in a terminal, finish what you must do, then exit that
[09:38] <Scrippie> yo
[09:38] <donvella> sudo apt-get xdvdshrink?
[09:38] <Alex0r> i know that but
[09:38] <ToHellWithGA> why can't you do it with a regular command or just "sudo"?
[09:38] <Alex0r> it'd take a long time
[09:38] <Scrippie> you tell me ;)
[09:39] <cpk2> donvella: you want to burn discs? gnomebaker?
[09:39] <ToHellWithGA> it wouldn't.  sudo su would log you in as root
[09:39] <Alex0r> sudo cp /<file> /loc takes too long
[09:39] <Alex0r> yeah
[09:39] <donvella> no im using gnomebaker atm
[09:39] <ToHellWithGA> inside that terminal
[09:39] <Alex0r> in terminal
[09:39] <donvella> i want to create a dvd out of alot of mpg/avi/mov files i have :D
[09:39] <ToHellWithGA> you want to use a gui to move a lot of files?
[09:39] <babo> hmm ... someone tell me whether my reverse look up for englishteachingkorea.com reached the root servers yet ?
[09:39] <Alex0r> yyar
[09:39] <donvella> have them all play consecutive
[09:39] <ToHellWithGA> that's a horrible idea Alex0r
[09:39] <Corporal_Dirge> I understand Alex0r, I have 1 arm in a sling at the moment.
[09:39] <ToHellWithGA> good luck
[09:39] <Alex0r> lol
[09:40] <Alex0r> i did it anyways >_>
[09:40] <noiesmo> donvella, xdvdshrink is a platform independent script and will work. Just download the rpm from the site and convert it with alien
[09:40] <donvella> right o
[09:40] <donvella> alien -i file.rpm?
[09:40] <UncleD> How would I make a crontab run every 10 minutes?
[09:40] <noiesmo> donvella, k9copy
[09:40] <cpk2> donvella: dvdstyler?
[09:40] <donvella> i seen k9copy... but i need the same program
[09:40] <donvella> ill give it a try, cheers boys
[09:40] <Alex0r> cheers
[09:40] <ToHellWithGA> i need to make/edit partitions on a disk with 2048 byte sectors.  how can i do that?
[09:40] <Alex0r> whoops
[09:40] <Alex0r> i mean bye
[09:40] <Dead_Karm1> if i simply type gksudo it complains about a missing command to run.  if i type say gksudo mount then i get the same thing as typing sudo mount.  what am i missing?
[09:40] <Alex0r> LOL
[09:41] <ToHellWithGA> Dead_Karm1: mount is not a graphical command
[09:41] <Alex0r> yar
[09:41] <spades> UncleD */10 * * * * command
[09:41] <ToHellWithGA> so gksudo mount /dev/device /mountpoint would make no sense
[09:41] <UncleD> spades: Thank you
[09:41] <Dabain> ToHellWithGA, rightclick the cdrom, choose mount.
[09:41] <ToHellWithGA> Dabain: it's not a cdrom
[09:41] <UncleD> spades: how often does this run 0 3 * * *
[09:41] <Dead_Karm1> okay, then what do i need to do to get my other hdd to mount?
[09:41] <Dabain> ToHellWithGA, OK
[09:41] <spades> every 3 am
[09:42] <ToHellWithGA> it's a usb drive with a 2048 byte sector
[09:42] <ToHellWithGA> :(
[09:42] <cpk2> donvella: dvdstyler can do your menus and then output the whole thing to an iso/dvd i think, been a while since i looked at it
[09:42] <Dabain> ToHellWithGA, nice
[09:42] <donvella> cheers
[09:42] <donvella> give it a go
[09:42] <Dabain> Can I get help with Courier here?
[09:42] <ToHellWithGA> Dabain: not really.  it's sony being a bunch of jerks and making it virtually impossible to use their Hi-MD drives with linux
[09:42] <Dabain> ToHellWithGA, lets burn'em all!
[09:42] <ubuntu> any online games you can play with unbantu???
[09:42] <ToHellWithGA> drives that mount as USB thumbdrive-esque drives in windows
[09:43] <Alex0r> I'm on a live CD re-installing ubuntu coz i broke mine,.. x got corrupted somehow.. :$
[09:43] <ToHellWithGA> ubuntu: wolfenstein enemy territory, alien arena
[09:43] <ToHellWithGA> .me is sure there are others
[09:43] <Dabain> ubuntu, bzflag is also interesting .. though hard.
[09:44] <Dead_Karm1> then what is it that i need to do to get access to my other hdd?
[09:44] <cpk2> unreal tournament
[09:44] <cpk2> quake
[09:44] <cpk2> all the quake and i am pretty sure all the unreal tournaments are native linux
[09:45] <cpk2> neverwinter nights is native linux
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> is unreal tournament available natively on linux?
[09:45] <UncleD> spades: are you sure */30 * * * * isn't every 30 seconds
[09:45] <cpk2> fyrestrtr: pretty sure
[09:45] <compengi> is there a way to know under real ip what network ips are available?
[09:45] <Dabian> UncleD, man crontab
[09:45] <ubuntu> what time is it on the the east coast???
[09:45] <spades> UncleD thats every 30 minutes
[09:45] <Dead_Karm1> almost 12
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> compengi: what do you mean 'are available'? are free, or the entire range of that network segment?
[09:46] <Alex0r> its 12:46 PM here
[09:46] <Alex0r> Am**
[09:46] <ubuntu> 3:45
[09:46] <Dabian> UncleD, read "man crontab" - I very much doubt you will regret it .. or rather, browse it first, then read the interesting stuff.
[09:46] <ubuntu> am
[09:46] <Alex0r> fun
[09:46] <compengi> fyrestrtr, if i know the real ip can i scan what internal ips are there
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> 10:46 AM here
[09:46] <ubuntu> so if i cant play games with linux why do i want it??
[09:46] <Alex0r> ..
[09:46] <Alex0r> coz it pwns windows>
[09:46] <cpk2> Dead_Karm1: you need to mount it
[09:46] <Alex0r> ?
[09:47] <Dabian> ubuntu, you don't read answers.
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> compengi: you can ping the broadcast address to see what machines answer.
[09:47] <ubuntu> ?
[09:47] <Alex0r> you could use win or cadega or whatever
[09:47] <UncleD> Dabian: Is this correct if I want no output: /usr/bin/pon dsl-provider& >>/dev/null
[09:47] <Alex0r> wine*
[09:47] <Alex0r> cedega*
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu: you don't. No one is forcing linux onto you. Its all about choice :)
[09:47] <ToHellWithGA> ubuntu: playing games is a rather silly reason to use linux
[09:47] <cpk2> ubuntu what games cant you play with linux?
[09:47] <ToHellWithGA> having a system that rarely crashes is a good reason
[09:48] <Alex0r> None ;)
[09:48] <UncleD> You cant play sudoku
[09:48] <ic56> what is the colour coding for sound card sockets?  I have red, green, and blue.  Red has a microphone icon so I get that.  What are teh other two?
[09:48] <ironfroggy> if i change hardware, ubuntu will autodetect it, correct?
[09:48] <ubuntu> well it seems faster then my windows
[09:48] <gleesond> is there a quick way to show all system services?
[09:48] <ToHellWithGA> having software with tons of folks willing to support you in IRC is another good reason
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> UncleD: /usr/bin/pon dsl-provider &1>&2 > /dev/null
[09:48] <Alex0r> Iron: Most likely
[09:48] <compengi> i use traceroute or ping?
[09:48] <spades> ic56 blue should be line in, green should be headphones
[09:48] <ubuntu> aa
[09:48] <ironfroggy> Alex0r: what if i take the hdd out and put it in an entirely different machine?
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> ic56: green is for speakers, blue is line in.
[09:48] <Alex0r> Iron: I don't know, it wouldn't work.
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> compengi: ping
[09:48] <Alex0r> Like, say you tried to boot off of it.
[09:48] <Alex0r> It wouldn't work
[09:49] <ironfroggy> ugh..cdrom on one of boxes is broken
[09:49] <ubuntu> so if you dont play games what do you guys do??
[09:49] <ironfroggy> Alex0r: why not?
[09:49] <tritium> ubuntu: scientific computing
[09:49] <CarlFK> what do I install so k3b will convert mp3 to wav to make an audio CD?
[09:49] <compengi> fyrestrtr, nothing
[09:49] <cpk2> ubuntu: what games cant you play?
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> programming, work, helping, research, development.
[09:49] <Alex0r> because the system uses different drivers from the one your hd was in, right?
[09:49] <ToHellWithGA> ubuntu: i think linux doesn't build giant piles of stuff just to run one program.  each program is written with a few specific dependencies rather than relying on some do-all .dll file in windows that does way more than necessary
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> compengi: you have to ping the *broadcast* address.
[09:49] <Alex0r> no drivers = no display = no boot = :(
[09:49] <Dabian> `Evil`, I play games mostly in order to relax and have fun.
[09:49] <ironfroggy> Alex0r: yeah but i thought it would autodetect the new hardware
[09:49] <futex> tritium: changing to linux is the reason why not to play games! :)
[09:49] <compengi> fyrestrtr, the real ip
[09:49] <Alex0r> Nope
[09:49] <tritium> futex: :)
[09:49] <Alex0r> It wont even start
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> compengi: for that, you need to find it first :) If you are on the same network, use ifconfig to find the broadcast address.
[09:50] <tritium> ubuntu: some of us use it in our jobs
[09:50] <ic56> spades, fyrestrtr: thank you!  Ok, so now my earphones are in the right jack.  That won't fix the missing /dev/dsp  What do I do about that?
[09:50] <ubuntu> linux is tricky tho
[09:50] <ironfroggy> Alex0r: that sucks. i thought one of ubuntu's big things was auto detection of hardware.
[09:50] <ubuntu> but interesting
[09:50] <Alex0r> when you install
[09:50] <compengi> i'm not in the network
[09:50] <`Evil`> Dabian, True. but what has got to be admitted is that for playing games, Windowsa has the best support *sigh*  Even I do on linux but thats hardly a reason for me
[09:50] <Alex0r> but it wont just boot off of an hd from another pc with no drivers
[09:50] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: there's a cat who is here often who codes a lot of the audio system for ubuntu
[09:50] <ironfroggy> whats wrong with doing it at startup if hardware is different? dont shoot me for saying this, but, "windows does it".
[09:50] <cpk2> Dead_Karm1: you know how to mount a device in the terminal?
[09:51] <spades> ironfroggy complain to the manufacturor for not providing drivers?
[09:51] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: if you check back and ask for him you'll probably get really good help and a solution right away.  i don't recall his name right now though :/
[09:51] <Dabian> evil: maybe .. but I don't want to install microsoft just to play games .. games are not that important to me.
[09:51] <aorth> Where do I specify kernel modules to be started after boot (not boot-critical modules)?
[09:51] <tritium> life is too busy to have time for games
[09:51] <Alex0r> Wait dude, if you put the HD in ubuntu will start and try to use different drivers, it wont work
[09:51] <ubuntu> well this lil look at linux was interesting but now i think ill go to bed good night all
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> compengi: then you can't ping the broadcast address. You can only guess what the netmask is, and then try to ping all ips in that netmask space.
[09:51] <Dabian> `Evil`,  maybe .. but I don't want to install microsoft just to play games .. games are not that important to me.
[09:51] <tritium> aorth: /etc/modules
[09:51] <aorth> tritium: Cool.
[09:51] <Alex0r> you'd need a boot cd for it to work
[09:51] <Alex0r> that would never work, not even with winblows
[09:51] <ToHellWithGA> tritium: i am busy but i make time to play.  not necessarily computer games, but cycling and playing frisbee and playing water polo
[09:52] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: what hours does this cat (is this lingo making a come back?!) hang out here?
[09:52] <ToHellWithGA> games+exercise > games+computers
[09:52] <compengi> fyrestrtr, how to add the submask in the ping?
[09:52] <Alex0r> indeed
[09:52] <cpk2> hooray for water polo
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> ic56: you just need to reconfigure alsa.
[09:52] <champcap> how i can open files .run?
[09:52] <`Evil`> Dabian, thats brings us back on the main point, linux can play games and well too, but isnt a sensible enough reason for me to install it, guess we have the same thoughs but different viewpoints :)
[09:52] <Alex0r> hooray for walking around with 6 hot chicks
[09:52] <Alex0r> :p
[09:52] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: he was around in the daytime last time i saw him.  around noon i think
[09:52] <ToHellWithGA> *noon EST
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> compengi: you don't 'add' the subnet mask. You have to calculate it.
[09:52] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: thanks!
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> champcap: generally, you just double click them, and choose 'run' from the popup menu.
[09:53] <compengi> fyrestrtr, O.o how
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> compengi: learn networking for that :) this is getting too offtopic.
[09:53] <Dabian> `Evil`, Microsoft WIndows XP costs $100 or more .. if you're going to play legally .. I can play most ms-windows games I want on GNU/Linux with wine or cedega, so no reason for me to pay for ms-windows.
[09:53] <NthDegree> 'Evil'  linux is more secure than windows, the viruses/malware that hackers try to spread through linux don't get very far due to the secure filesystem permissions linux has by default
[09:53] <ToHellWithGA> how could somebody make their IRC quit message "download gaim" when it's a poor excuse of a GUI IRC client?
[09:54] <Dabian> `Evil`, The main reason for me to run GNU/Linux is that it is freedom : http://www.gnu.org
[09:54] <Alex0r> Yeah, cedega rules. Linux has a total of.. 0 viruses?
[09:54] <NthDegree> wrong
[09:54] <noiesmo> verbose, it was lack of firestarter aptitude had uninstalled it when trying to correct other conflicts
[09:54] <spades> ToHellWithGA the same reason why my quit message is the default one, dont feel like changing it :P
[09:54] <Alex0r> Way better than windows IMHO
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> NthDegree: they don't get very far because most viruses/malware are written for Windows, not Linux machines. They rely on Windows and programs running on top of it to spread. That's why, if it hits a Linux box, it just dies.
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> ToHellWithGA: probably because they are using gaim and that's its default quit message?
[09:55] <Dabian> Alex0r, I happen to have a few viruses for GNU/Linux .. (un)fortunately, they're not capable of spreading very easily.
[09:55] <NthDegree> fyrestrtr, you obviously don't read the virus reports very well there are a ton of linux specific viruses
[09:55] <ToHellWithGA> `Evil`: i use linux because it is supported by 900-strong IRC channels.  if i can boot enough to get a terminal and irssi i can usually solve even the worst of problems in a few minutes
[09:55] <NthDegree> ones that die out on windows :p
[09:55] <Alex0r> There's linux viruses? Damn, didn't know that..
[09:55] <Alex0r> Where can I dl them?
[09:55] <Alex0r> I want some viruses :D
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> NthDegree: I was not disputing that. Your assertion that Linux is more srcure because of the 'secure filesystem permissions' is wrong.
[09:55] <Dabian> `Evil`, if you're happy with ms-windows, what are you doing here? :-P
[09:55] <ToHellWithGA> Alex0r: http://www.redhat.com
[09:55] <`Evil`> hmm.. I think I might've put my point incorrectly. I love linux and ifact use Ubuntu only and play games on Wine, but what I am saying is that I've seen friends with Windows and seriously their gaming variety is worth envying. Its just that linux needs some work to be done on the gaming angel
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> s/srcure/secure/
[09:56] <Alex0r> LOL tohell
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> NthDegree: but honestly, I don't want to pollute the channel with OT discussions.
[09:56] <ToHellWithGA> the worst one is called "fedora core 4"
[09:56] <NthDegree> fyrestrtr, when NTFS is hardened viruses cannot damage a fully patched windows either :)
[09:56] <Guard] [an> morning
[09:56] <ic56> fyrestrtr: thank you.  I asked ubotu and it said to change my system config to alsa.  Just did that.  Now, how do I reconfigure it, as you suggest?  dpkg-reconfigure <which package?>
[09:56] <`Evil`> Dabian, I dont like windows, Only the gaming variety there, Its slightly difficult to put across I guess
[09:56] <Dabian> `Evil`, its the game producers ... they need to allow linuxports of their games.
[09:56] <Dead_Karm1> just a question, but isn't ubuntu supposed to be easier than the typical linux?
[09:56] <ToHellWithGA> it tricks you into running all of your software for free but as a guinea pig for a commercial OS
[09:56] <Guard] [an> anyone knows the solution when the keyboard is not responding while being at the grub boot screen ??? (i have a dell inspiron 8600)
[09:56] <Alex0r> karm, yes
[09:56] <Alex0r> and it is
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> ic56: not, sure try reading the wiki entry on sound
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> !alsa
[09:56] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:57] <ToHellWithGA> Dead_Karm1: ubuntu is the kind of easy that you can immediately use when switching from windows
[09:57] <Dead_Karm1> then why for the love of all that is can i not get access to my other hard drive?
[09:57] <Dabian> Who will help me set up courier?
[09:57] <Dabian> Or find some reading?  Preferable in danish..
[09:57] <noiesmo> the missing pieces of linux ie games and hardware support is the cause of lack of support from the manufactures and game producers linux is by no means at fault
[09:57] <ToHellWithGA> Dead_Karm1: when you install ubuntu you have the option to automatically setup a drive or to manually partition.  when you manually partition you can set mount points for each drive.  what you need are mount points
[09:57] <`Evil`> Dabian, exactly! but till the point they actually do that most of the serious gamers on linux have games to play but it isnt very close to a gamers heaven yet :)
[09:58] <Alex0r> brb, ubuntu done installing
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> ic56: see those two entries. I'm not too familiar with reconfiguring alsa in ubuntu since alsa-config is not there :)
[09:58] <Dead_Karm1> it be easier just to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:58] <Dabian> evil: Yeah .. I play enemy territory .. (an older version of) Army Ops .. etc.
[09:58] <ToHellWithGA> noiesmo: good hardware is supported
[09:58] <Dabian> `Evil`, I expect to soon be able to play both X-plane and Oblivion.
[09:59] <ToHellWithGA> it's shifty hardware that's not supported.  that stuff relies on patched together drivers in windows anyway, and is likely the cause of windows bugginess when using that hardware aggressively
[09:59] <Dead_Karm1> maybe i should try that
[09:59] <Dead_Karm1> bvrb
[09:59] <noiesmo> ToHellWithGA, yes but the main avarage joe buys whats on special not what is good
[09:59] <`Evil`> Dabian, I got together a copy of FEAR (drools) but *sigh* didnt work.. maybe I was doing something wrong.. but gonna give it a shot again.
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> two of the main issues with linux and gaming 1. reduced market share -- companies don't want to port games to linux because of the limited number of gamers (this is changing) 2. graphics acceleration support in linux. Just ask anyone using ATI :)
[09:59] <ToHellWithGA> noiesmo: and i buy M-Audio sound cards b/c i'm a snob and an integrated video motherboard b/c i don't play video games.  everything on my board is fully supported :)
[10:00] <noiesmo> ToHellWithGA, 4 out of 5 people i know have printers games etc that the manufacture does not support
[10:00] <ToHellWithGA> even my USB thumbdrive bluetooth adapter works out of the box with ubuntu
[10:00] <NthDegree> noiesmo i'm a lucky bugger :p my favourite games are all supported
[10:00] <ic56> fyrestrtr: the second URL in ubotu's !alsa doesn't contain anything.  Whoever has access to ubotu might want to fix that...
[10:00] <ToHellWithGA> this OS has most of its bases covered in the hardware department
[10:00] <ic56> the second URL in ubotu's !alsa doesn't contain anything.  Whoever has access to ubotu might want to fix that...
[10:01] <NthDegree> yes ic56 so is the advice on my PC
[10:01] <amit> any one help me to install konica network printer on tcp/ip port.
[10:01] <NthDegree> i do not see a multimedia systems selector
[10:01] <ToHellWithGA> Seveas: see ic56's message regarding the links in !alsa
[10:01] <`Evil`> fyrestrtr, Which reminds me of a question, I got Nvidia 6100 and recently I noticed that when i fullscreen the vis plugin in xmms, the sound gets sc*.. it plays as if on slow tempo.. whats that? I got all drivers
[10:01] <noiesmo> ToHellWithGA, all i'm saying is that the manufacturers should have drivers etc for there equipment as they do for M$ now it is up to the manufacturer to produce the driver or else allow linux devellopers to but they dont
[10:01] <osfameron> how do I format an external drive ?
[10:01] <Seveas> !alsa
[10:01] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:01] <ToHellWithGA> `Evil`: what sound card do you use?
[10:02] <NthDegree> Seveas, I don't even see a system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector
[10:02] <Flannel> noiesmo: eh, they don't even have to do that, the linux community is completely eager to write it's own drivers.  We just need them to give us the hardware specs
[10:02] <ToHellWithGA> osfameron: the easy way would be: gksudo gparted
[10:02] <Seveas> NthDegree, it's disabled by default for god knows why
[10:02] <NthDegree> lol
[10:02] <NthDegree> yeah, OSS is so great on my ALSA sound card
[10:02] <Dabian> How do I create users with Courier mailserver?  I already have the webinterface running, if that helps ...
[10:02] <noiesmo> Flannel, nail on the head :)
[10:02] <Seveas> ToHellWithGA, ic56: that link works fine here and is full of information 
[10:03] <ToHellWithGA> osfameron: if you have don't have gparted installed (sudo apt-get install gparted) and if you do you can use it to browse to the external drive's /dev/whatever
[10:03] <NthDegree> ic56 maybe you have an issue with https/ssl
[10:03] <ToHellWithGA> `Evil`: what sound card do you use?
[10:03] <osfameron> ToHellWithGA: ta
[10:04] <`Evil`> ToHellWithGA, I got onboard sound, ALC880 codec
[10:04] <ToHellWithGA> `Evil`: can you figure out which chipset that is based upon?
[10:04] <Alex0r> sigh
[10:04] <Alex0r> on ubuntu now
[10:04] <`Evil`> ToHellWithGA, Yep Realtek, lemme get the full details
[10:05] <osfameron> ToHellWithGA: ta
[10:05] <`Evil`> ToHellWithGA, here -> Azalia High Definition Audio Realtek ALC880 HD Audio CODEC
[10:06] <Alex0r> Okay, I have a problem. In firefox the flash plugin wont install
[10:06] <NthDegree> Alex0r, i386 or amd64?
[10:06] <Alex0r> i386
[10:06] <NthDegree> hmmmmm have you tried the wiki or is that what you are following?
[10:07] <Alex0r> I tried that already
[10:07] <Alex0r> I tried updating
[10:07] <Alex0r> Downgrading
[10:07] <mohkohn> hello. For some reason mp3 is not showing up as an option in sound juicer. I have downloaded the recommended packages in the wiki
[10:07] <Alex0r> Manually installing
[10:07] <mohkohn> Can anybody tell me why this is so?
[10:08] <NthDegree> mohkohn, perhaps it may be because the mp3 codecs you downloaded were for playing mp3s
[10:08] <`Evil`> ToHellWithGA, so any guesses why thats happening? the xmms thing
[10:08] <ic56> ToHellWithGA, seveas: my mistake: that page is a redirect and I don't have those enabled in lynx.  The redirection page contains the full header and footer which caused me to not notice the redirection URL.  I wish people wouldn't make redirection pages look like they're regular pages.
[10:08] <NthDegree> lynx :|
[10:08] <johlin> what is wrong?
[10:08] <johlin> apt-get source libgadu-dev
[10:08] <johlin> Reading package lists... Done
[10:08] <mohkohn> what do I need for ripping then?
[10:08] <johlin> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:08] <JohnnySack> hi everyone
[10:08] <johlin> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_dapper_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[10:08] <rpedro> Alex0r: check in synaptic if you have any libflash*  packages installed , and unisntall them, could be a conflict between that and flash from  macromedia
[10:08] <JohnnySack> is anyone here using DC++ for linux?
[10:09] <Seveas> ic56, ack
[10:09] <ToHellWithGA> `Evil`: i'd recommend modifying xmms' output plugin settings
[10:09] <ToHellWithGA> try to set it to alsa and a specific adapter and mixer
[10:09] <JohnnySack> anyone willing to help?
[10:09] <Seveas> !alsa =~ s#https?://wiki.ubuntu.com#https://help.ubuntu.com/community#
[10:09] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[10:09] <Alex0r> rpedro: don't have it installed
[10:09] <NthDegree> mohkohn, I am not sure if ubuntu is licensed to allow mp3 encoding (recording/creating) lemme have a look for something for you
[10:10] <ToHellWithGA> then if it won't playback on that setting (one that you know is your card) then you'll need to seek further help on the card
[10:10] <Schamane> moin
[10:10] <rpedro> Alex0r: then I don't, sorry. that's what I did when I had problems with flash
[10:10] <ToHellWithGA> .me must go to bed to wake up early to go to the bike shop
[10:10] <KenSentMe> JohnnySack: just tell us your problem and maybe someone can help
[10:10] <mohkohn> it used to work fine with breezy and hoary
[10:10] <ToHellWithGA> night yall
[10:10] <rpedro> Alex0r: *don't know
[10:10] <Alex0r> night
[10:10] <Alex0r> yeh
[10:10] <Alex0r> hmm
[10:10] <Alex0r> imma re-install firefox
[10:10] <mohkohn> Dapper seems to have had a lot of problems
[10:11] <Alex0r> yeah
[10:11] <Alex0r> :/
[10:11] <Alex0r> it doesnt but
[10:11] <Alex0r> mine does
[10:11] <NthDegree> mohkohn, Install the gstreamer0.8-lame package
[10:11] <mohkohn> thanks NthDegree
[10:11] <Alex0r> is it just me or does it take a long time for ubuntu to boot?
[10:11] <JohnnySack> KenSentMe, I am using ubuntu live right now, just to be sure I make the right choice by migrating to ubuntu from windows, I need to know wether yes or no, there is a DC++ equivalent for linux
[10:11] <NthDegree> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#gstreamer0.8.1-lame < for more info
[10:11] <Guard] [an> anyone knows the solution when the keyboard is not responding while being at the grub boot screen ??? (i have a dell inspiron 8600)
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> Alex0r: just you I guess, it boots here quickly.
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> Guard] [an: how do you mean 'not responding'?
[10:12] <Alex0r> prolly
[10:12] <Guard] [an> fyrestrtr : can't choose the boot menu item
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> JohnnySack: what is DC++ ?
[10:13] <Guard] [an> fyrestrtr : i'm just stuck to default boot item, can't use the direction keys nor the "e" key for editing etc...
[10:13] <Seveas> !valknut
[10:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about valknut - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:13] <JohnnySack> fyrestrtr,  DirectConnect
[10:13] <Alex0r> That's it, cant live without flash. /me goes to konquerer
[10:13] <Seveas> !info valknut
[10:13] <ubotu> valknut: graphical client for Direct Connect. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 863 kB, installed size 3044 kB
[10:13] <Seveas> ^-- JohnnySack
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> Guard] [an: when you hit the caps lock key, does the indicator light up?
[10:13] <JohnnySack> fyrestrtr, a p2p program
[10:13] <Guard] [an> fyrestrtr : i'm not sure of that
[10:13] <JohnnySack> with hubs and all
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> JohnnySack: I believe there is.
[10:13] <samu2> What linux functionality do you use to make ubuntu open the same set of programs and preferrably in the same positions when you start your system?
[10:13] <amit> could u help me to install a printer on TCP/IP port in UBUNTU?
[10:13] <NthDegree> Guard] [an, try using a PS/2 keyboard as opposed to a USB or a Wireless one
[10:14] <JohnnySack> Seveas, can you help me with it
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> Guard] [an: does it get stuck, and eventually boot, or it just gets stuck there?
[10:14] <Guard] [an> NthDegree : it's a laptop
[10:14] <Alex0r> amit: it's straight forward
[10:14] <JohnnySack> fyrestrtr, but u are not sure
[10:14] <Alex0r> amit: what wont work?
[10:14] <amit> HOW
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> amit: system > administration > printing its there.
[10:14] <Guard] [an> fyrestrtr : no no i'm using the computer at the moment :)
[10:14] <Alex0r> yeah
[10:14] <Guard] [an> fyrestrtr : it's just block at the grub screen
[10:14] <Guard] [an> blocked
[10:14] <amit> I AM UNABLE TO LOCATE TCP/IP PORT IN ADD PRINTER WIZARD
[10:14] <Seveas> !caps
[10:14] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> JohnnySack: I don't use it myself, but I know its there. I don't know the name of the software. There is a p2p page at the wiki, you might want to check it out. fwiw, I use frostwire.
[10:15] <Dabian> KICK AMIT!
[10:15] <Alex0r> Please do it
[10:15] <JohnnySack> fyrestrtr, thx, I'll look into it
[10:15] <serge> I just used the install disk to rescue my grub after a windows install, but now the dual boot isn't working. The windows partition is on my primary master drive on the first partition so it should be hd0,0 right?
[10:16] <KenSentMe> JohnnySack: Seveas already told you about valknut, check that program
[10:16] <NthDegree> serge you want root (hd0,0) chainloader +1
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> amit: on the very first screen in the add printer wizard, choose network printer, then choose hp directjet or lpd
[10:16] <amit> Dabian * / u mean/
[10:16] <NthDegree> or rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[10:16] <NthDegree> then chainloader +1
[10:16] <amit> i am using konica 7022
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> amit: yes, I know.
[10:16] <serge> NthDegree: no idea, I just want to be able to dual boot, it was working before, but since I formatted it's not doing the same thing
[10:17] <NthDegree> serge open up /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:17] <serge> NthDegree: yeah already there
[10:17] <RvGaTe> serge, could you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> amit: enter the ip address of the machine and the port -- then click next and choose your printer from the list. For more info > linuxprinting.org
[10:17] <JohnnySack> Seveas, Is Valknut working properly?
[10:17] <NthDegree> in there you should have title Windows (or something like that)
[10:17] <Seveas> JohnnySack, dunno, i don't do p2p 
[10:17] <NthDegree> then below that there should be:
[10:17] <NthDegree> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[10:17] <serge> NthDegree: yeah i do, and RvGaTe how do you select all using nano?
[10:18] <NthDegree> chainloader +1
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: how do you make that katana(?) letter?
[10:18] <Oni-Dracula> thats so weird...I click the button to install NTP support for automatic clock synchronization and my screensaver engages..
[10:18] <serge> NthDegree: yes there is
[10:18] <RvGaTe> serge, you dont really... :P
[10:18] <Alex0r> Offtopic: P2P is legal here, like downloading music is. :)
[10:18] <Dabian> I was kicked from #UBUNTU!
[10:18] <RvGaTe> serge, sudo gedit <file>
[10:18] <Alex0r> Don't shout?
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> fix your caps lock key.
[10:18] <Dabian> Well, not exactly kicked .. more forced to leave.
[10:18] <RvGaTe> lol
[10:18] <Alex0r> You were making a good suggestion atleast!
[10:18] <serge> RvGaTe: i dont have gedit, but i guess it's a nessesity seeing as you cant select all using nano :P
[10:19] <Guard] [an> fyrestrtr : so any idea ?
[10:19] <Dabian> Alex0r, thanks :)
[10:19] <JohnnySack> Seveas, since i am a begginer in linux, would you help me install it? please :)
[10:19] <Alex0r> Hehe, I don't understand how fyrestrtr can type so much. I'd have a massive headache if I was him....
[10:19] <bilss_> hi
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> Guard] [an: sorry, I don't know. I would have to use the same hardware to troubleshoot it. Its not a common thing. I have been using grub for a while now, and never faced that, not on a laptop or desktop.
[10:20] <Dabian> Seveas, why is the documentation of COurier so bad?  I can't even locate the guide to create IMAP users!
[10:20] <Guard] [an> fyrestrtr : neither did I
[10:20] <Seveas> Dabian, creating users depends on the authentication backend you use
[10:20] <Alex0r> Dabian, who knows, every guide is bad nowadays.
[10:20] <Guard] [an> fyrestrtr : also i had gentoo installed prior to ubuntu and it ran fine
[10:20] <RvGaTe> serge, you could create a copy, and host it on the net somewhere...
[10:21] <Seveas> Dabian, search for valknut in applications  add/remove
[10:21] <Dabian> Seveas, how do I know?
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: is there such a thing as 'roaming profiles' available?
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> Guard] [an: same here :)
[10:21] <NthDegree> Guard] [an, look in your CMOS setup program (BIOS) for  "PnP Enabled System" or something like that, tell it your system is NOT Plug and Play Enabled
[10:21] <Seveas> err, JohnnySack, search for valknut in applications  add/remove
[10:21] <serge> RvGaTe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18269
[10:21] <jes-o-mat> hi
[10:21] <jes-o-mat> where is the BTS system of ubuntu?
[10:21] <Guard] [an> NthDegree : unfortunately i have no such setting
[10:21] <Seveas> Dabian, you've specified that in the courier config (authd.conf oslt)
[10:21] <bilss_> anyone know of a good mailclient that interfaces with pgp/gunpg
[10:21] <Seveas> !bugs
[10:21] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[10:22] <RvGaTe> serge, and this is not working? looks good to me really...
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: thunderbird does it excellently
[10:22] <JohnnySack> Seveas, ok
[10:22] <FearMoth> how do I configure my network card from the command line?
[10:22] <NthDegree> Guard] [an, laptops are evil :p, maybe you should compile your own GRUB from source so solve it if it worked on gentoo
[10:22] <ic56> fyrestrtr: roaming profiles: Set up NFS or any other kind of filesharing for your homedir.  Presto!
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> FearMoth: ifconfig, or edit /etc/networking/interfaces
[10:22] <serge> RvGaTe: :x thats not good, i wouldn;t mind but it was ubuntu that ate my llast windows install forcing me to format and start again
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> ic56: no, not quite what I am after.
[10:22] <Guard] [an> NthDegree : yeah that would be an option
[10:22] <UncleD> How do I make my crontab not send me an email. I read man crontab and man cron and found nothing.
[10:23] <Guard] [an> fyrestrtr , NthDegree : thx for the help anyway :)
[10:23] <FearMoth> fyrestrtr: there's no menu driven setup like during the installation?
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> ic56: I need a better managed one, that transfers settings, passwords, auth, etc.
[10:23] <azcazandco> Flannel: you suggested to me yesterday that I fix my system by booting off live cd and then editing my /etc/xorg.conf file after I duffed my system, how do I mount my hard drive whilst in the live cd?
[10:23] <Dabian> Seveas, thanks .. where do I find said configuration file?  /etc/courier doesn't seem to contain..
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> FearMoth: it generally does it automatically. What problem do you have?
[10:23] <RvGaTe> sarge, well, can you access your windows partition, just to verify everything has been deleted... saves you allot of time if it wasn't
[10:23] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: thanks i have that installed but having trouble getting support
[10:23] <Seveas> Dabian, /etc/courier/authdaemonrc
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: sorry, what?
[10:23] <serge> RvGaTe: yeah i was on it about 10mins ago
[10:24] <RvGaTe> serge, so you still have your windows installation... but not bootable..
[10:24] <ic56> fyrestrtr: synchronized passwords and auth are handled by NIS.  The personal settings should all be in your homedir.
[10:24] <FearMoth> fyrestrtr: when I try to ping 192.168.1.1 (my router) it says "network unavailable" or something along those lines, and when I try to ping google, it can't resolve the address
[10:24] <serge> RvGaTe: i've only just used the rescue command to get grub back as the MBR, but now it doesn't like windows and i'm back to the start
[10:24] <Dabian> Seveas, authmodulelist="authmysql authpam authuserdb"
[10:24] <serge> RvGaTe: yes.
[10:24] <mohkohn> Thanks again. NthDegree. I don't remember having to do these steps with Breezy. But at any rate I can now put mp3's on my iRiver T-30
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> FearMoth: try this sudo ifup -a
[10:25] <NthDegree> mohkohn, it's all about licensing
[10:25] <NthDegree> i'd ditch mp3s at all cost :)
[10:25] <azcazandco> can anyone help me do this
[10:25] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: well i rum a mail server and in the incoming mail section and uot going mail section i place my fqn but always get connection refused
[10:25] <Alex0r> Ubuntu has the greatest support ever
[10:25] <FearMoth> fyrestrtr: thanks I'll try it out.. brb
[10:26] <RvGaTe> serge, this is what you could do... get the rescue disk, and replace grub (dont know the exact command, yet)... after that, verify you can boot windows... then get a livecd and install grub again... that fixed it for me like 3 weeks ago...
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: seems your fqdn is not resolvable. Check your /etc/hosts entry
[10:26] <Seveas> Dabian, the easiest way to create an imap user is to create a local user on your system - that user will have imap access too
[10:26] <IseeIsee> i'm looking for an platform independent irc chat client ?
[10:26] <mohkohn> I understand that NthDegree. Personally I wanted to too. But the T30 had DRM. I had to change the firmware so it would work as a usb device.
[10:26] <Seveas> alternatively, you can do a mysql based setup
[10:26] <mohkohn> Then the ogg's wouldn't work.
[10:26] <Dabian> Seveas, the problem is I am going to host multiple domains
[10:26] <serge> RvGaTe: that command would be grub-install /dev/hda0
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: gaim?
[10:26] <RvGaTe> serge, takes a while to do it... but for me, that was the only way
[10:27] <Seveas> Dabian, then you really want a mysql setup 
[10:27] <bilss_> fyrestrtr : it does reslove but i will check /etc/hosts entry
[10:27] <RvGaTe> serge, yes, but make sure you are chrooted to your linux installation (not the livecd)
[10:27] <Dabian> Seveas, I guess so. :-)
[10:27] <Seveas> http://www.courier-mta.org/authlib/?README.authmysql.html
[10:27] <mohkohn> So I do not recommend buying iRiver any more. They used to be linux friendly. But not any more.
[10:27] <Seveas> that should get you started
[10:27] <IseeIsee> fyrestrt: gaim can run on windows ?
[10:27] <serge> RvGaTe: but I was on windows 10mins ago, why would I need to varify something that i already know :P
[10:27] <B1zz> wah!
[10:27] <Alex0r> yeah
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: yes.
[10:27] <B1zz> wad i miss on iriver?
[10:28] <serge> RvGaTe: I used the install cd, not the live cd
[10:28] <RvGaTe> serge, so you CAN boot windows ?
[10:28] <Oni-Dracula> ubuntu@conference.jabber.org
[10:28] <Oni-Dracula> one person in it.
[10:28] <Oni-Dracula> me!
[10:28] <UncleD> How do I make my crontab not send me an email. I read man crontab and man cron and found nothing.
[10:28] <serge> RvGaTe:  I had to select the root partition to rescue the grub, but 10mins ago since I did that it wont let me boot windows using dual-boot
[10:28] <azcazandco> how do I mount my hard drive under live cd so I can edit a broken xorg.conf file from my ubuntu installation?
[10:28] <kridian> UncleD: > /dev/null ?
[10:29] <Dabian> Thanks Seveas !
[10:29] <IseeIsee> ok thanks
[10:29] <fjgs> ojha
[10:29] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: mount /dev/HARDDRIVE /mnt/ .... then chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash.... then you are in the hdd environment
[10:29] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: ok i have hostname host.conf host.allow and host.deny
[10:29] <RvGaTe> serge, restore the evil windows boot loader... then reinstall grub
[10:29] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: let me know if you need further instructions
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> blind: eh? where do you have that?
[10:30] <Dabian> Seveas, awesome link :-)
[10:30] <azcazandco> thanks will do....
[10:30] <serge> RvGaTe: but thats what I did in the first place!
[10:30] <Alex0r> Ubuntu needs better fonts
[10:30] <Alex0r> >_>
[10:30] <mohkohn> Blzz http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106684&highlight=iriver+t30
[10:30] <Seveas> Dabian, if you have more questions, poke me. I have courier+mysql running fine on several hosts 
[10:30] <B1zz> thansk
[10:30] <RvGaTe> serge, you only replaced grub... in the first place... now that didn't work now did it? :)
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> Alex0r: a lot of fonts are available in repos but are not installed. Check them out :)
[10:30] <B1zz> will check it out
[10:31] <Dabian> Seveas, cool :)
[10:31] <serge> RvGaTe: I reinstalled windows so it was the MBR, and then used the install cd from ubuntu to rescue the grub and re-install it, I then booted to linux, edited the menu added the windows root restarted, but it doesn't work
[10:31] <azcazandco> timbobsteve: mount: only root can do that
[10:31] <RvGaTe> serge, allright...
[10:31] <Alex0r> I want fonts like Calibri though, they dont show up right
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> serge: did you follow the wiki while doing all this?
[10:31] <Alex0r> Theyre all un-rendered
[10:31] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: sorry "sudo mount /dev/HARDDRIVE /mnt"
[10:31] <RvGaTe> serge, is your windows installation located on hd0,0 ?
[10:31] <serge> yes fyrestrtr
[10:31] <azcazandco> tried it with sudo and got mount: special device /dev/HARDDRIVE does not exist
[10:31] <Alex0r> Cleartype fonts under linux would be nice
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> Alex0r: try fiddling with the dpi and other settings in the administration > fonts
[10:32] <serge> RvGaTe: all i know is it's on the primary master hard drive in the first partition
[10:32] <Alex0r> Yar, done it all.
[10:32] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: ok i have hostname host.conf host.allow and host.deny
[10:32] <RvGaTe> serge, thats hd0,0... ok..
[10:32] <Alex0r> Oh well, I'll stop bitching, ubuntu ftw!
[10:32] <serge> RvGaTe: yeah thats whtat I concluded, but it jsut doesn't like me. :X
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: where are you getting this from? just type cat /etc/hosts and see what the file contains.
[10:32] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: oh sorry... you are supposed to replace HARDDRIVE with the HDD name.... e.g. /mnt/hda2 (2nd partition on 1st ide HDD) /mnt/sda2 (2nd partition on 1st SATA HDD)
[10:32] <RvGaTe> serge, then your grub config seems fine... then its gotta be a windows problem if you cant boot it
[10:32] <Flamekebab> FINALLY
[10:32] <serge> RvGaTe: But i was on it just 15mins ago!
[10:32] <Flamekebab> they unbanned me
[10:33] <Flamekebab> although I still have not clue what I did wrong
[10:33] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: what type of Harddrive do you have? IDE / SATA  ???
[10:33] <Flamekebab> *no
[10:33] <RvGaTe> serge, hey, blaim windows... not grub :P
[10:33] <serge> I blame grub :P
[10:33] <UncleD> Can I do this in my crontab: * * * * * /root/reboot_script
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> UncleD: yes?
[10:33] <RvGaTe> ask in #windows... see if they can help you (im in there aswell)
[10:33] <UncleD> Can I do this in my crontab: * * * * * /root/script &1>/dev/null
[10:33] <serge> RvGaTe: fact is, windows was working until 15mins ago until grub came along, ate it, and ran off again ^_^
[10:33] <UncleD> fyrestrtr: hit enter too soon :)
[10:33] <serge> RvGaTe: kk will do
[10:34] <azcazandco> timbobsteve: chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash gives me chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[10:34] <azcazandco> SATA
[10:34] <Flamekebab> right, that's all I came online for
[10:34] <azcazandco> I managed to get sda1 to mount with the first command, well it never kicke dup any errors
[10:34] <Flamekebab> laters
[10:34] <Flamekebab> well..
[10:35] <cappie> hmm
[10:35] <cappie> this is weird
[10:35] <Flamekebab> IF THEY DON'T RANDOMLY BAN ME AGAIN
[10:35] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: ok.... then if you installed Ubuntu using the recommended partition layout these are the commands you need to type..... "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt"  then "sudo mount /mnt /bin/bash"..... that is IF you used the standard layout
[10:35] <cappie> I'm missing all of my extra features under System -> Administrator
[10:35] <Flamekebab> quit while I'm ahead I guess
[10:35] <cappie> Administration
[10:35] <azcazandco> I installed it on a 2nd partition timbobsteve
[10:35] <azcazandco> is currently a dualboot
[10:36] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: you most likely got errors because sda1 is usually the SWAP partition and does not contain a dir called /bin :P
[10:36] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: its got 127.0.0.1  localhost local domain    localhost  then  next line  192.168.1.64 mail.mydomain.net  mail
[10:36] <azcazandco> ok will i try the sda2 then
[10:36] <styleuk> RvGaTe: anything else I can try before I reinstall windows? Again. ^_^
[10:36] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: OK... so I take it windows is sda1.... swap partition is sda2 and root partition is sda3 ?  WINDOWS 1st Swap 2nd Linux 3rd ??? if so then use sda3 not sda2... sda2 is swap
[10:36] <azcazandco> bingo
[10:37] <azcazandco> i think i am in with sda2
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: when you type hostname what does it give you?
[10:37] <bilss_> ok just a sec
[10:37] <Tophat2445> ello
[10:38] <[A] ndy80> hi
[10:38] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: ok... well whatever you main linux partition is... it needs to be mounted onto /mnt... then you can just access it like normal files / folders.... if you want to run commands from within that environment (say... reinstall grub),,,, you will need to do a chroot (it changes the root directory)
[10:38] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: mail
[10:38] <bilss_> mail
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> and what do you get when you type dnsdomainname
[10:38] <Jesus> All: my Delete button got redefined as $xscreensaver-command -lock. It's pretty annoying, anyone know how to undo that?
[10:38] <Tophat2445> so does anyone have any general knowlage on edgy eft?
[10:38] <[A] ndy80> why I cannot ear any sound in Firefox for example when I look some video on video.google.com, while if I start it with aoss I can ear all sounds?
[10:38] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: chroot is very powerful tool... it comes in handy especially when repairing an install
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> Jesus: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us (if you have a us keyboard) Type that in console
[10:39] <bilss_> fyrestrtr mydomain.net
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: okay, now ... you are running a local email server?
[10:39] <Alex0r> Their plugin for ff does not work
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> Tophat2445: #ubuntu+1
[10:40] <B1zz> oi that is not good i love my iriver
[10:40] <[A] ndy80> Alex0r: ah :(
[10:40] <RvGaTe> styleuk, you dont have to reinstall it...
[10:40] <azcazandco> timbobsteve: that looks to have gotten me in and I have uncommented my original file and commented out ym changed, hopefully I should be able to boot back in now
[10:40] <Alex0r> I've done everything, T_T
[10:40] <RvGaTe> styleuk, you just gotta sort out your boot records (there are 2 actually)
[10:40] <azcazandco> thankyou very much
[10:40] <[A] ndy80> Alex0r: the problem using aoss is that very very often firefox hangs or crashes :(
[10:40] <Tophat2445> does anyone know what sort of changes can be expected in Edgey Eft?
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> Tophat2445: ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:41] <Alex0r> whats aoss..?
[10:41] <azcazandco> now i need to figure out what the hell broke my config
[10:41] <styleuk> RvGaTe: well i cant get back to windows, seeing as grub refuses to load my partition, it's ha0,0 no other place it can be surely unless it's been moved by ubuntu during the installtion and that in itself is a high improbability
[10:41] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: what was the last thing you did ?
[10:41] <Alex0r> My firefox doesn't hang or crash - no extensions will install
 I typed: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.se, since I've got a swedish keyboard, but the problem still remains.
[10:41] <azcazandco> I was trying to get my logitechmx510 working
[10:42] <azcazandco> my ubuntu keeps freezing with it
[10:42] <azcazandco> or at least the mouse does
[10:42] <azcazandco> dunno if it is the whole system
[10:42] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: ok... and what happens now when you try and boot? or is it just the freezing that is causing problems?
[10:42] <[A] ndy80> Alex0r: aoss is a wrapper that allow oss application to work with alsa
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> Jesus: you have a standard keyboard, not some microsoft/logitech thing?
[10:42] <azcazandco> when i tried to boot it was refusing to load even into recovery mode
[10:42] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: yes its mynetworks = 127.0.0.1/8 postfix
[10:42] <Alex0r> Hmm
[10:43] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: ok... hmmm any error messages ?
[10:43] <azcazandco> that is the only change I made to my machine and it broke straight away
[10:43] <ernz> Hi peeps, I screwed up in Gimp, and clicked the close button below the BackGround and ForeGround / Gradients section. Now I can't find a way to get the window to show again, any ideas?
[10:43] <Alex0r> I don't use that
[10:43] <azcazandco> I dunno where to check
[10:43] <Alex0r> :/
[10:43] <Alex0r> extensions wont install period
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: you need to add your 192.168.1.1/24 mask to it also -- but I am no postfix guru.
[10:44] <Madpilot> ernz, you could go delete .gimp2.2 and reset all your gimp options & setups
[10:44] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: ok... I take it you have your hdd mounted to /mnt.... type "sudo nano /mnt/var/log/syslog" and see if there are any errors down the bottom... there are other logs located in the /mnt/var/log/ directory... check those too
[10:44] <azcazandco> timbobsteve: I am going to try and reboot into my system
[10:44] <johso> now this is a weird one (at least I think so). when I vnc to my other computer, and then try to open aterm it will make vnc crash (at first, just my client, but if it happens a few times, it will block vnc access) if I have any artwiz fonts loaded. make any sense to you?
[10:44] <azcazandco> k i will do that first
[10:44] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: ok so it finds the mailclient if i do that?
 I've got an old Logitech.
[10:45] <azcazandco> sudo nano /mnt/var/log/syslog
[10:45] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: to check the kernel errors/boot-log try checking the file called /mnt/var/log/dmesg .... that is the best place to look for major kernel errors...
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: since your hostname is resolving using 192, I think that is what you need. But best to ask someone who is familiar with postfix.
[10:45] <azcazandco> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> Jesus: maybe its got some key modification thing that is messing with your delete key.
[10:45] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: ok thanks
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: or ask in #postfix
[10:46] <Flannel> azcazandco: you need to fix your hosts file
[10:46] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: are you in chroot ??
[10:46] <ernz> Madpilot: Superb, good call. Working fine now. A tad overkill perhaps?
[10:46] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: no harm in trying see what happens
 Oh... I found it. xmms changed it. Thanks.
[10:46] <timbobsteve> Flannel: perhaps not... he may just be in chroot
[10:46] <Flannel> azcazandco: and, you don't need sudo to read that log, I don't think.
[10:46] <Madpilot> ernz, well, that's the blunt intrument way of fixing stuff, but it does work ;)
[10:47] <benny_> hello :)
[10:47] <Flannel> oh, no.  azcazandco, nevermind.  I wasnt paying attention
[10:47] <timbobsteve> benny_: hi
[10:47] <azcazandco> cant see any blatent errors in that log
[10:47] <azcazandco> Flannel: :D
[10:47] <benny_> I've got a fglrx problem :(
[10:47] <ernz> Madpilot: I wonder if I could do something similar with a login issue I have been having?
[10:47] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: ok... check dmesg for errors.... /mnt/var/log/dmesg
[10:47] <timbobsteve> benny_: !ATI
[10:47] <b14ck> my dsl is still open and i can't connect to it pls help
[10:47] <timbobsteve> !ATI
[10:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <Madpilot> ernz, what's the login issue?
[10:48] <benny_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13039 (not my post, but it's exactly my problem :( )
[10:48] <benny_> they are at least installed :)
[10:48] <azcazandco> I cannot get into /var/log/syslog
[10:49] <ernz> Madpilot: Every time I boot from cold, I get an error message after all the services load (Before the login window) that says something like "A greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempting to use a different one" in an error message box, and then it takes me to an un-themed bog-standard login window with Human Ubuntu colours where I can log in.
[10:49] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: whats it say?
[10:49] <timbobsteve> ernz: are you using a custom gdm/kdm theme?
[10:50] <redblades> Hi, how might I install The J2SETM Development Kit 5.0 (JDKTM 5.0)?
[10:50] <azcazandco> Jul 17 11:22:30 localhost kdm: :0[5218] : IO Error in XOpenDisplay
[10:50] <redblades> Or more recent, for ubuntu?
[10:50] <Madpilot> ernz, System->Admin->Login Window - which GDM theme are you using?
[10:50] <azcazandco> Jul 17 11:22:30 localhost kdm: :0[5218] : IO Error in XOpenDisplay
[10:50] <ernz> Madpilot: It flashes the Nvidia splash screen twice before I get this error. I am using a theme from Gnome-Look.org. The theme works fine, just that bleedin' login issue.
[10:50] <b14ck> i need help with my dsl please
[10:50] <azcazandco> Jul 17 11:22:30 localhost kdm[5145] : Display :0 cannot be opened
[10:51] <Madpilot> ernz, odd - maybe contact the creator of the gdm theme you're using, see if this is a known issue?
[10:51] <redblades> !ask b14ck
[10:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about ask b14ck - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:51] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: perhaps remove your xconfiguration and it might reconfigure... it seems that it is having trouble booting into graphical mode...
[10:51] <redblades> !ask
[10:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:51] <Flannel> redblades: you mean JDK5?  and the TM are 'trademark'?
[10:51] <b14ck> redblades: i asked the question noone answered it now i asket like this and got some atention :D it works
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> !java
[10:52] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:52] <azcazandco> I will try and reboot first now I have changed the file back to what it was
[10:52] <ernz> Madpilot: I have switched to an Ubuntu 'Circles' theme for the login, and it does appear to use this when I log in sometimes, but I STILL get the error message directly before that regardless of the theme I switch to. Weird eh?
[10:52] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: ok... let me know how it all goes
[10:52] <azcazandco> need to copy out those commands first so I know what to do in future
[10:52] <Alex0r> OMFG :@
[10:52] <b14ck> when i shut down ubuntu my dsl still remains open and when i try to login again ( after restart) i get no net activity
[10:52] <Alex0r> Nothing will install to my firefoz
[10:52] <redblades> Flannel thanks, I couldn't find it.
[10:52] <Alex0r> firefox*
[10:53] <kristian> Mornin people;) I got a silly problem. I use Mozilla Firefox to surf on Internet. But now I got something called "Mozilla Webrowser". And it's ugly. How can I remove it? I don't find it in add/remove app.
[10:53] <azcazandco> thanks for helping me so far
[10:53] <Alex0r> No plugins
[10:53] <Alex0r> The flash not work
[10:53] <Alex0r> flash plugin not working*
[10:53] <rixth> So, Flash 9 is out. Do we even have Flash 8? Of course not.
[10:53] <k31th> guys i am adding 1500 users by ldap. However they want email address's differnt from there linux usernames... Is there any way to do this other than mainly assigning each address to each username in sendmail ?
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> kristian: did you install azureus?
[10:53] <kristian> Yes
[10:53] <rixth> Has Adobe even said that Flash 8 is coming for us?
[10:53] <Madpilot> ernz, odd - if you can't sort it yourself, you can always file a bug @ bugs.ubuntu.com and get help there
[10:53] <Alex0r> i dunno
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> kristian: that's why. Azureus needs some libraries from mozilla-browser.
[10:53] <timbobsteve> azcazandco: no problem... glad to help out a willing linux users
[10:53] <Madpilot> rixth, Linux users are supposed to be going straight to Flash 9...
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> kristian: you can just remove it from the menu
[10:53] <kristian> Ok. So if I remove Azuerus, Mozilla will be gone?
[10:54] <rixth> Madpilot, I will believe that when I see it =)
[10:54] <b14ck> when i shut down ubuntu my dsl still remains open and when i try to login again ( after restart) i get no net activity
[10:54] <kristian> I don't use Azuerus anyway..
[10:54] <void^> fyrestrtr: it doesn't, it's an unnecessary dependency of swt in ubuntu
[10:54] <Alex0r> geh, brb, going on windows. no flash in firefox = alex mad
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> void^: oh, thanks :)
[10:54] <rixth> Madeye, any word of 64-bit?
[10:54] <timbobsteve> b14ck: .... no one knows how to stop that.... so stop asking... please !
[10:54] <rixth> Madpilot, rather
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> Alex0r: flash works here just fine.
[10:54] <Madpilot> rixth, no idea, I run 32bit here
[10:55] <timbobsteve> b14ck: do you have an ethernet modem or a USB modem ?
[10:55] <rixth> Same.
[10:55] <ernz> Madpilot: No "Blunt" way of fixing this one then? - I did consider reformatting and starting again. but I figured that this is Linux, NOT Windoze, so there must be a solution somewhere.
[10:55] <b14ck> timbobsteve: that 's what i wanted to know...
[10:55] <b14ck> timbobsteve: ethernet
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> ernz: what is the problem?
[10:55] <Madpilot> ernz, not that I know of, and I'm more reluctant to start just deleting config files when it's something important like GDM...
[10:55] <timbobsteve> b14ck: ok... so I take it you get your IP from the modem when you reboot ?
[10:55] <b14ck> timbobsteve so i'm not the only one with the problem?
[10:55] <ernz> Madpilot: Understood.
[10:56] <b14ck> timbobsteve it's a pppoe connection
[10:56] <ernz> fyrestrtr:  Every time I boot from cold, I get an error message after all the services load (Before the login window) that says something like "A greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempting to use a different one" in an error message box, and then it takes me to an un-themed bog-standard login window with Human Ubuntu colours where I can log in.
[10:56] <timbobsteve> b14ck: no... i meant "no one HEAR knows how to fix it".... I am sure it is fixable
[10:56] <b14ck> timbobsteve yeah by calling my ISP and i'm kinda tired of that because it keeps happening and they're probably tired of fixing it
[10:57] <timbobsteve> b14ck: ok... that doesn't help just saying its pppoe... does your PC recieve its IP address from the modem ?
[10:57] <ernz> Surely there's a boot script somewhere, where I could have a look'see at the code and just delete the line that it tries to load this "Crashing" application on?
[10:57] <redblades> for some reason, the package it says to get (sun-java5-sdk) isn't there!
[10:57] <kristian> fyrestrtr: I just type "sudo apt-get remove Azureus" ?
[10:57] <Skorm> yep
[10:57] <b14ck> timbobsteve: yeah. i only input the user/pass
[10:57] <timbobsteve> b14ck: as in... ok... so you used a web-style interface to configure your modem when you first got it ?
[10:58] <b14ck> timbobsteve well not exactly modem. ethernet PCI adapter
[10:58] <b14ck> timbobsteve and i ocnfigured it with sudo pppoeconf
[10:59] <jimmyxx> Hi, a lad at work has done something to my Ubuntu and changed it so my uptime counts down, can someone help me fix it so it counts up again?
[10:59] <timbobsteve> b14ck: ok.... thats beyond me.. I use a standard Ethernet modem.... pppoe is something different alltogether... mainly for cable style setups as far as I know (and i guess adsl)
[10:59] <ernz> I gotta go peeps - My sister just phoned on an emergency "Need extra bodies ASAP" call!!????
[10:59] <redblades> Flannel, not working...
[10:59] <b14ck> timbobsteve ok thanx. know any other help cnahhel?
[11:00] <ernz> Should be fun - L8rz N' TX 4 UR help.
[11:01] <timbobsteve> b14ck: from now on when asking questions you should talk about pppoe... not just ADSL... it gives ppl more info to help you..
[11:01] <Dabian> Seveas, is there a better way than using a general mysql client, to create users when the config is done?
[11:01] <timbobsteve> b14ck: I guess any standard linux help channel would be able to help you out
[11:02] <Seveas> Dabian, I'm lazy and use phpmyadmin 
[11:02] <redblades> Flannel?
[11:02] <benny_> it's me again
[11:02] <redblades> It has a jdk
[11:02] <redblades> but no sdk
[11:02] <benny_> `
[11:02] <Dabian> Seveas, so, you do simply populate the fields of the passwd table?
[11:02] <benny_> is there whole xorg.conf file that works ?
[11:03] <benny_> a
[11:03] <ubuntu> ;>
[11:03] <benny_> with fglrx ?
[11:03] <Seveas> Dabian, yup
[11:03] <b14ck> timbobsteve ok thanx.
[11:04] <jimmyxx> Hi, a lad at work has done something to my Ubuntu and changed it so my uptime counts down, can someone help me fix it so it counts up again?
[11:05] <llama32> haha
[11:05] <Dabian> Seveas, thanks :)
[11:05] <benny_> (EE) fglrx(0): Fail to initialize ASIC in kernel. <--- what does that mean ?
[11:05] <benny_> better: What is ASIC ?
[11:07] <benny_> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) ? (Xorg.0.log)
[11:08] <grothesk> HI there!
[11:09] <dilip> hi everyone!!
[11:09] <dilip> Could you please tell me how to set a default Theme in GNOME for all users?
[11:09] <Seveas> dilip, with sabayon
[11:10] <grothesk> How can I tell gnome that I wan't windows to leave the desktop beyond the bottom panel?
[11:11] <Bonez> qu
[11:11] <Bonez> questions anyone?
[11:12] <dilip> Seveas: can you tell me how to?
[11:12] <styleuk> Bonez: good with grub?
[11:12] <Bonez> styleuk, neg
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> jimmyxx: lol I'd like to know know to do that.
[11:12] <cappie> I have a question!
[11:12] <styleuk> Bonez: ^_^ want to try anyway :P
[11:12] <Bonez> styleuk, k :)
[11:12] <rtorter> hola
[11:12] <cappie> Where did all my Administration functions go I saw when I used the LiveCD ???
[11:13] <cappie> I have only 5 options now!!
[11:13] <cappie> :(
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> cappie: system > administration ?
[11:13] <cappie> yeah
[11:13] <cappie> its almost empty.. all the usefull stuff is gone
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> cappie: useful stuff like ....
[11:14] <cappie> well..
[11:14] <cappie> SOftware properties
[11:14] <cappie> Shared folders
[11:14] <cappie> services
[11:14] <cappie> Networking
[11:14] <cappie> etc, etc, et
[11:14] <cappie> c
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> are you using the account that was created by the system, or another account that you created afterwards?
[11:15] <cappie> now, all I have is System Log, System Monitor, Printing, Network Tools and Device Manager
[11:15] <styleuk> Bonez: okay, I've just installed windows after installing ubuntu on the same drive, in different partitions. Windows was the mbr and I wanted to boot ubuntu, so I used the ubuntu install cd to install grub as the mbr and then booted ubuntu. I then went on to editing my grub config to add the menu for windows partition. My windows partition is on hd0,0. The primary master, first partition. I then restarted, but can't load windows, it contin
[11:15] <cappie> this account has been created afterwards
[11:15] <cappie> could that be it?
[11:15] <cappie> hmm
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> cappie: you need to probably add the user to the admin group
[11:16] <cappie> ah!
[11:16] <cappie> how do I do that?
[11:16] <styleuk> cappie adduser <user> admin
[11:16] <styleuk> remove the <user> and use the corresponding username :)
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> styleuk: no, that would remove them from any other group.
[11:17] <cappie> hehe
[11:17] <cappie> its 'cappie' :)
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> cappie: see the manual for usermod -- I forgot the exact arguments, but it should be usermod -aG admin cappie
[11:18] <cappie> ok
[11:18] <styleuk> fyrestrtr: aha, well it's what I got taught here yestoday
[11:18] <squeechy> Hi.
[11:18] <cappie> fyrestrtr: do I have to run that command as well?
[11:19] <cappie> fyrestrtr: ok, done.. then log out and back in?
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> yeah
[11:19] <cappie> ok
[11:19] <cappie> brb
[11:19] <squeechy> Anyone heard of a front-end that controls disk encryption? Esp. for a home directory.
[11:19] <styleuk> I've just installed windows after installing ubuntu on the same drive, in different partitions. Windows was the mbr and I wanted to boot ubuntu, so I used the ubuntu install cd to install grub as the mbr and then booted ubuntu. I then went on to editing my grub config to add the menu for windows partition. My windows partition is on hd0,0. The primary master, first partition. I then restarted, but can't load windows, it continues to load u
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> !repeat
[11:19] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:20] <styleuk> fyrestrtr: I was asking bonez, but as he vanished, and generally when asking one person you get less of a response from others I thaught it best to ask the channel instead of one person
[11:21] <ninpomonkey> I am trying to install VLC media player, but I can't find the universe thingie in the synaptic add/remove packages. Is there another way to install VLC? I have tried sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:21] <PingunZ> doesn't automatix install vlc ?
[11:21] <ninpomonkey> automatix?
[11:21] <PingunZ> yeah
[11:22] <benny_> Hello again :S
[11:22] <PingunZ> ninpomonkey, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177646
[11:22] <ninpomonkey> PingunZ: going to read :)
[11:22] <benny_> Do you recognize this Xorg.0.log errormessage ?
[11:22] <benny_> (II) fglrx(0): doing DRIScreenInit
[11:22] <benny_> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[11:22] <benny_> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address)
[11:23] <PingunZ> its very easy
[11:23] <rixth> !tell benny_ about paste
[11:23] <benny_> :(
[11:23] <rixth> !paste > benny_
[11:23] <rixth> I don't know this new fangled bot.
[11:23] <benny_> :D
[11:23] <benny_> I didnt got a message
[11:23] <Mattchewie> clear
[11:23] <PingunZ> !decide yes or no
[11:23] <benny_> but I know what's wrong ;)
[11:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about decide yes or no - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:23] <ardchoille> rixth: both of those worked
[11:24] <benny_> sorry, got one :S
[11:24] <PingunZ> if I remove my edgy partition, will its grub be removed too ? cause atm it overwrites my dapper grub
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> ninpomonkey: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[11:24] <benny_> =( is anybody able to help me out there ?
[11:24] <azcazandco> I got back into ubuntu :D
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> edgy question in #ubuntu+1
[11:24] <Mattchewie> man the xubunut channel is about as lively as a bucket of sludge :D
[11:25] <ardchoille> Mattchewie: lol
[11:25] <benny_> :D
[11:25] <Bonez> nautilis is gay
[11:26] <Bonez> it always locks up
[11:26] <PingunZ> loool
[11:26] <Bonez> i hate it
[11:26] <Mattchewie> Bonez, I AGREE
[11:26] <Mattchewie> :D
[11:26] <benny_> my /dev/dri folder is empty btw. :(
[11:26] <PingunZ> it never does with me ?
[11:26] <Bonez> what else can I use in gnome
[11:26] <Mattchewie> But adept for kubunut takes the gay cake IMHO
[11:26] <Bonez> lol
[11:26] <Bonez> every time i try a fat32 or samba share
[11:26] <Bonez> it freezes
[11:26] <Bonez> wtf
[11:27] <PingunZ> I have a fat32 and it doesn't freeze
[11:28] <Mattchewie> ? weird, I never had an issue with i either
[11:28] <Mattchewie> :/
[11:28] <benny_> can you "hear" me ?
[11:28] <Mattchewie> but then again.....I have migrated to xubuntu...which is pretty rock'n but I can't get bmpx to work for the life of e
[11:28] <kindor> sup
[11:28] <kindor> how can i disable the application /system/preferences toolbar?
[11:28] <Mattchewie> *me
[11:28] <bezibaerchen> aegh, god damn hilight :D
[11:29] <Mattchewie> hahah
[11:29] <jimcooncat> !lilo
[11:29] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[11:29] <benny_> huhu :o ?
[11:29] <PingunZ> !grub
[11:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> kindor: right click on it, uncheck the lock option, then right click > remove
[11:30] <PingunZ> boom
[11:30] <explodes_now> hi
[11:30] <explodes_now> again
[11:31] <PingunZ> gday benny
[11:31] <polly> Why does 'tar tf filename.tar.gz' works fine but 'tar tf *.tar.gz' does not ?
[11:31] <kindor> sweet, thanks firestarter
[11:32] <Mattchewie> ? is there more than one tar file in that dirctory polly?
[11:32] <Mattchewie> ..well...tar.gz file that is
[11:32] <explodes_now> gday ._. ?
[11:32] <explodes_now> http://pastebin.ca/91102 <---
[11:33] <explodes_now> (   #
[11:33] <explodes_now> #
[11:33] <explodes_now> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address)    )
[11:33] <explodes_now> argh, sorry
[11:33] <NthDegree> lol
[11:33] <explodes_now> :S
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> polly: because there is no such file called *.tar.gz
[11:34] <shinobi2> why do i need server.iso CD when i 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktoo'?
[11:34] <explodes_now> (starts crying)
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> shinobi2: because you didn't remove the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[11:35] <Mattchewie> ...man even the slackware channel is dead.....and usally they are very opinionated people
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> shinobi2: edit /etc/apt/sources.list -- and remove the very first line.
[11:35] <shinobi2> fyrestrtr, ok
[11:35] <explodes_now> why does xorg hates me :'( ?
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> my isp informed me -- 'our international gateway is down' -- nice :(
[11:36] <Mattchewie> explodes_now, its not just you man, its everybody...its hate is omni-present
[11:36] <PingunZ> its like the devil of linux
[11:36] <shinobi2> where can i get a list of software? like mc(midnight commander), open office, etc...
[11:36] <jimcooncat> I don't know how the hell I ended up with lilo on my friends breezy system, would it be safe to install grub through ssh?
[11:36] <fyrestrtr> !software
[11:36] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[11:37] <shinobi2> another words 'sudo apt-get install what'?
[11:37] <azcazandco> how do I check what all my drives are that are set up on hda
[11:37] <mizer> df -h
[11:37] <azcazandco> I am away to try and install xen
[11:37] <Mattchewie> is you use Adpet you will go crazy though
[11:37] <Flannel> shinobi2: you can search with "apt-cache search [keywords] " as well
[11:37] <azcazandco> mizer: thanks
[11:37] <shinobi2> Flannel, thx
[11:37] <mizer> how to download only gif files from some url using wget ??
[11:37] <PingunZ> If I just remove a linux partition,  will that linux be uninstalled then ?
[11:37] <Mattchewie> wget http://URL......
[11:37] <Mattchewie> :|
[11:37] <explodes_now> (This apt has super-cow-powers) ?
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> mizer: man wget and check the file type filters
[11:38] <PingunZ> apt-get moo :D
[11:38] <explodes_now> xD
[11:39] <Mattchewie> what now brown cow?
[11:39] <mizer>  wget http://URL...... gives me inly index.html
[11:39] <NthDegree> look at aptitude
[11:39] <ninpomonkey> I can't find or install Automatix for i386, I can only find one for powerpc, and I can't get that package to install :((
[11:39] <stefg> PingunZ: If this is the only partition used by Linux, of course deleting it will 'uninstall' ... But be aware that you can make your system unbootable, if the linux bootloader is still in MBR
[11:39] <NthDegree> "This apt does NOT have super-cow powers" :p
[11:39] <mizer>  wget http://URL......
[11:39] <fyrestrtr> ninpomonkey: #automatix please
[11:39] <mizer> give me only index.html
[11:40] <mizer> i want the index and all the content of the directory
[11:40] <Mattchewie> hrm, usually I suppy wget with the full URL.......and ...I haven't had an issue
[11:40] <mizer> i don`t even want to filter the file types
[11:40] <mizer> i want them all
[11:40] <Mattchewie> I would sugest what fyrestrtr said, check your filters
[11:40] <shinobi2> any suggestions for me? i installed ubuntu using server.iso instead of desktop.iso, basically, i want everything from gnome desktop, office and firefox
[11:40] <PingunZ> But I had a dapper mbr, and then install the ' linux ' and now I use its mbr ...
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> mizer: read the manual page for wget. This is not a ubuntu related question.
[11:40] <Flannel> shinobi2: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <explodes_now> is it easier to install a nvidia-driver ??
[11:41] <mizer> wget is also in ubutnu, isn`t it ?
[11:41] <Flannel> shinobi2: that'll get you exactly the same end result
[11:41] <shinobi2> Flannel, thx
[11:41] <lassegs> mizer: of course
[11:41] <mizer> so it is ubuntu related question
[11:41] <grodius> Hi, i'm using a widescreen monitor with a resolution of 1366x768, how do I get that resolution to work in Ubuntu?
[11:41] <explodes_now> try shouting at your screen ^^
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> this is the ubuntu support channel. wget is not developed by ubuntu, its part of linux. take your question to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:41] <explodes_now> or try to change your xorg.conf
[11:42] <explodes_now> (right?)
[11:42] <lassegs> grodius: tried hand configuring xorg.conf?
[11:42] <explodes_now> (right =) )
[11:42] <Mattchewie> there is a command for xorg, man...what is it.......it will pole yoru monitor and give you string to place in the monitor section of your xconfig
[11:42] <grodius> lassegs i assumed thats what i would need to do, but what exactly should I modify
[11:42] <explodes_now> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:42] <Mattchewie> ....man, why can't I think of it!!
[11:42] <explodes_now> Section Screen
[11:42] <Flannel> explodes_now: gksudo
[11:42] <explodes_now> gksudo ?
[11:43] <Flannel> explodes_now: for graphical apps (in gnome) you use gksudo, instead of sudo
[11:43] <explodes_now> :'( nooo
[11:43] <PingunZ> it also work with sudo
[11:43] <explodes_now> it doesnt work anyway :/
[11:43] <PingunZ> what's the difference ?
[11:43] <explodes_now> k
[11:43] <dibblego> what's a decent newsreader?
[11:44] <PingunZ> then do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <Flannel> PingunZ: with sudo and some graphical apps, you run the risk of corrupting some config files
[11:44] <explodes_now> its a gtk-frontend
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> dibblego: pan
[11:44] <dibblego> fyrestrtr, cheers
[11:45] <RaidenII> hello :D
[11:45] <explodes_now> hi
[11:45] <explodes_now> well I'm gone
[11:45] <RaidenII> i'm itian :)
[11:45] <RaidenII> and you?
[11:45] <explodes_now> playing supertux :S
[11:45] <RaidenII> haha.. ok
[11:45] <RaidenII> :D
[11:45] <dibblego> supertux rocks!!
[11:45] <RaidenII> see you!!
[11:45] <explodes_now> ^^ it does
[11:45] <RaidenII> i don't like :P
[11:46] <explodes_now> but I would like to have gl-support
[11:46] <dibblego> I keep my .supertux files under revision control so I can play it wherever I am
[11:46] <dibblego> ~/.supertux
[11:46] <explodes_now> but xorg hates me... it tries to kill me every night :/
[11:46] <PingunZ> wish me good luck, going to reboot ...
[11:46] <RaidenII> -.
[11:46] <RaidenII> -.-
[11:46] <RaidenII> i go out
[11:46] <RaidenII> vye
[11:46] <RaidenII> bye
[11:46] <PingunZ> laterz
[11:46] <explodes_now> *good luck*
[11:46] <PingunZ> :p
[11:47] <explodes_now> <-- sells luck for just 4,95$/hour
[11:47] <explodes_now> am gone
[11:47] <explodes_now> cu
[11:47] <shinobi2> Flannel,        are there more apps in the server.iso which the default installation did not install on my box?
[11:47] <azcazandco> anyone familiar with xen here?
[11:48] <Flannel> shinobi2: er, I don't know if the server iso will act as a repository.  It might.  Why?
[11:48] <shinobi2> Flannel, just want to install as much apt from the CD.  so it might save me some digging time
[11:48] <grodius> can someone help me? I have an ATI card and I need to run at 1366x768
[11:49] <Flannel> shinobi2: downloading time you mean?  The packages you'll be installing will need to be updated anyway, I imagine.
[11:50] <shinobi2> Flannel, hm... ok. it's fine then. thx
[11:53] <ateup> can anyone help me with quake 3 sound, when i load a mod?
[11:55] <CrashProne> Anyone know how to setup a USB gamepad? :-P  There's probably a simple solution to this that I do not know.
[11:59] <jimcooncat> need tips on flash troubleshooting, please. stuff in wiki not helping.
[12:00] <CrashProne> Okay.. 64-bit or 32-bit?
[12:00] <jimcooncat> 32-bit
[12:00] <CrashProne> Okay, what's the problem?
[12:01] <v3rmap> The scrollbars on the touchpad of my laptop doesn't work in Ubuntu. Any idea how I can fix that?
[12:01] <jimcooncat> crashes loading yahoo front page, both firefox and epiphany
[12:01] <jimcooncat> just started crashing the other day
[12:01] <manopulus> hello, how to rebuild xorg.conf? some dpkg-reconfigure?
[12:01] <v3rmap> Ubuntu is running inside Vmware. The touchpad itself works fine, but the 2 scrollbars on the touchpad don't
[12:01] <CrashProne> Crashes, eh?  Wouldn't know why..
[12:02] <jimcooncat> not the whole machine, just the browser
[12:02] <CrashProne> Mm hm.
[12:02] <jimcooncat> reinstalled the nonfree but didnt' help
[12:03] <jimcooncat> but having other problems with this machine, as I can't update the kernel on it either
[12:04] <CrashProne> Yeah, I don't know for that one.  My Firefox has been jamming up in places too, but not consistently, just sometimes.  I don't think I can help. :-P
[12:04] <CrashProne> Oh!  Manopulus!
[12:04] <Skorm> How to I change my terminal size?
[12:04] <jimcooncat> thanks anyway, CrashProne , I appreciate it
[12:05] <CrashProne> manopulus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:05] <CrashProne> Works like a charm.
[12:05] <celenk> Okay, I'm having the strangest problem
[12:05] <celenk> I can't enter the lower-case 'd' into anything
[12:05] <celenk> not a terminal, web browser
[12:05] <celenk> the cursor blinks, but it won't appear
[12:06] <Skorm> celenk: The letter "d" is considered a virus, so It left out of the kayboard mapping xD
[12:06] <jimcooncat> celenk, take last night's supper out from under the key cap lol
[12:06] <Skorm> so "D" works and "d" doesnt?
[12:06] <CrashProne> Strangest problem indeed.  0_o
[12:07] <celenk> Skorm, well it just closed my session back to login(trying capital D), and when I got back in it said "There was an error starting GNOME Settings Daemon" with some text after
[12:07] <celenk> Skorm, "D" seems to work, but not "d" (obviously not on this computer)
[12:07] <celenk> weird, its working now -_-
[12:08] <Skorm> bah
[12:08] <Skorm> I was about to say what i thought the problem was
[12:08] <CrashProne> I'm a ninja like that.
[12:08] <celenk> I think it was calling some shortcut
[12:08] <celenk> that I'm unaware of?
[12:08] <celenk> I have no idea
[12:09] <Skorm> hehehe celenk , it was problerly calling sudo shutdown -h now
[12:09] <celenk> =P
[12:09] <Skorm> I've made a new firewall program
[12:10] <Skorm> which requires no installstion
[12:10] <frogzoo> celenk: you have bound a hotkey by accident
[12:10] <Skorm> All you do is cut your ethernet cable in half
[12:10] <frogzoo> Skorm: nice :)
[12:10] <Skorm> Don't you dare steal my idea
[12:11] <Skorm> *fine print* My block programs/connection's that are good.
[12:13] <Skorm> 3 cahnnel with over 100 people, and no one is talking
[12:13] <narfmaster> you are
[12:14] <CrashProne> Heh.  It's how crowded IRC channels work.  Evidently.
[12:14] <Skorm> xD
[12:14] <CrashProne> (not that I know from experience or anything)
[12:14] <Skorm> <3 irc
[12:14] <Skorm> but i like smaller networks
[12:14] <frogzoo> Skorm: post release lull
[12:14] <Skorm> frogzoo: huh?
[12:14] <narfmaster> the eye of the hurricane
[12:15] <frogzoo> Skorm: start of june, this chan was 100% berzerk
[12:15] <Skorm> I wonder why xD
[12:15] <china> how to read the 'ubuntu'?
[12:15] <CrashProne> I really wish my gamepads would work.. *puppy eyes*
[12:15] <Dabian> chii, with chop sticks.
[12:16] <frogzoo> china: I have no idea what you're talking about
[12:16] <Dabian> china, with chop sticks.
[12:17] <Skorm> lawl
[12:17] <CrashProne> Hehe... I've still only managed to crash Linux fully.. twice.  On all other instances it was just an X jam or program jam.. Easily fixed.  Windows though, everything crashes together, hehe.
[12:17] <Dabian> CrashProne, thats not a real crash :)
[12:17] <narfmaster> !cn
[12:17] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[12:17] <Skorm> CrashProne: how many windows to linux installisions have you phailed
[12:17] <wietz0r> CrashProne: Windows only sucks if you have no clue howto maintain it
[12:17] <Dabian> CrashProne, just ssh in from another machine on your lan, and reboot the machine properly. :)
[12:18] <ungamed> what kind of packet management does (k/ed)ubuntu use?
[12:18] <wietz0r> ungamed: apt-ge
[12:18] <wietz0r> tt
[12:18] <frogzoo> wietz0r: OT
[12:18] <wietz0r> frogzoo: Say what ?
[12:18] <china> is ubuntu read as [u:buntu] 
[12:18] <frogzoo> OT = off topic
[12:18] <wietz0r> frogzoo: no
[12:19] <Dabian> china, your question is : "How do I /pronounce/ ubuntu?".
[12:19] <ungamed> wietz0r: ok, is it good (easy)?
[12:19] <china> Dabian ,yes
[12:19] <Skorm> u-bun-to
[12:19] <wietz0r> ungamed: DDon't know
[12:19] <narfmaster> china, uu buun tuu
[12:19] <Dabian> narfmaster, LOL!
[12:19] <wietz0r> ungamed: Gentoo pwnz0rs it ;-)
[12:19] <frogzoo> china: ubunut
[12:19] <china> thanks
[12:19] <ungamed> wietz0r: hehe :)
[12:19] <CrashProne> I know how to maintain it just fine, wietz0r..  (in fact, darned good) ... still crashes more.
[12:19] <someothernick> oo boon to?
[12:19] <NthDegree> wietz0r, windows is illogically made - linux is more logical and therefor easier to maintain
[12:19] <master5o1> woa
[12:19] <Skorm> china:  it doesnt matter how you says it, just how you use it
[12:20] <master5o1> this is the first time ive used IRC :D
[12:20] <Skorm> master5o1:  :>
[12:20] <wietz0r> NthDegree: I never had any "weird" lockups with window
[12:20] <Skorm> master5o1:  It's fun when you get used to it
[12:20] <NthDegree> anyone can make windows immune to viruses, but why bother when others have made a free project you can contribute to
[12:20] <master5o1> me..
[12:20] <Hoxzer> master5o1: do you have soul
[12:20] <Skorm> master5o1: but its better to start on small networks
[12:20] <wietz0r> NthDegree: fact, bluescreens only appear with serious driver issues, and I've had more driver issues with ubuntu then with windows
[12:20] <frogzoo> NthDegree: if anyone can do it, why haven't they ;)
[12:20] <NthDegree> wietz0r, niether have I except on loads of my friends machines *even* when i installed it
[12:20] <TnadeN> hi, i need some help (complete noob)
[12:21] <wietz0r> :|
[12:21] <Skorm> wietz0r: though, does linux fully come to a halt on a driver problem?
[12:21] <NthDegree> frogzoo, they made a brilliant filesystem that is near enough superior to ext2 and 3 and yet they have it configured totally poorly and don't even take advantage of it's security
[12:21] <wietz0r> Skorm: Well, not being able to do anywork because X stops working on a driver problem can be seen as quite a halt
[12:21] <Skorm> wietz0r: I dont run x
[12:21] <master5o1> im trying to create a MySQL db...could you help
[12:21] <master5o1> ?
[12:21] <someothernick> "Ubuntu (IPA pronounciation /bnt/ (oo-BOON-too)) "
[12:22] <Skorm> master5o1: have you got mysql installed?
[12:22] <master5o1> i think :P
[12:22] <wietz0r> Skorm: That's no excuse
[12:22] <frogzoo> remember when they said linux would never be fit for a server? then it was fit for the enterprise, embedded & after that the desktop - the momentum's the thing
[12:22] <NthDegree> wietz0r what driver issue, we can usually solve issues like that - it is usually down to human error (on the user's part)
[12:22] <TnadeN> i downlaoded a ubuntu CD and chose the install option... after a while the installation was complete and i saw this brown background... but nothing more, well the pointer but that didn't work. the computer was completly frozen. HELP!
[12:22] <Skorm> wietz0r: I'm saying, you can still do stuff, without x
[12:22] <china> i have some suggest for ubuntu ,is there somebody tell me which website i should go?
[12:22] <Dabian> frogzoo, I don't recall anyone saying this .. save evil suits with monetary interest in Microsoft.
[12:22] <wietz0r> Skorm: i know that, however a new user probably can't, and that's what ubuntu is all about, isn't it ?
[12:23] <NthDegree> china there should be some area you can find, try looking on the wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:23] <frogzoo> Dabian: 's the truth
[12:23] <china> thanks ,
[12:23] <Skorm> master5o1: go apt-get mysql-server
[12:23] <Skorm> err
[12:23] <CrashProne> I like my GUI.. hehe.  I use the terminal plenty, but.. I wasn't really a computer user back in the days when the terminal was the standard..
[12:24] <Skorm> master5o1: go sudo apt-get instal mysql-server
[12:24] <TnadeN> *poke*
[12:24] <NthDegree> I used to use DOS
[12:24] <NthDegree> so pre-windows is much better IMO
[12:24] <ungamed> why should I go for ubuntu rather than suse IYO?
[12:24] <Skorm> wietz0r: true
[12:24] <manopulus> hello, i just want to rebuild xorg.conf, like i made new installation, how i can do that? some dpkg-reconfigure?
[12:25] <wietz0r> Skorm: I have to do some weird stuff to make ubuntu usable on my laptop
[12:25] <Skorm> wietz0r: I'm just saying driver problems are esaier without 50 reboots because of the bluescreen getting in your way
[12:25] <NthDegree> ungamed, suse (the free one) is like fedora - an experiment to help make up the "Enterprise Version"
[12:25] <TnadeN> i downlaoded a ubuntu CD and chose the install option... after a while the installation was complete and i saw this brown background... but nothing more, well the pointer but that didn't work. the computer was completly frozen. HELP!         and this time answer me.
[12:25] <Ishmael> hello
[12:25] <senjin> hello
[12:25] <Skorm> TnadeN: hmm
[12:25] <wietz0r> Skorm: On windows 95 when I used to have a driver problem I'd just reboot into safe-mode and roll it back
[12:25] <wietz0r> one reboot
[12:25] <wietz0r> it was no big deal
[12:25] <CrashProne> ungamed: I had a bad experience with SuSE.  It may be better now, I don't know... I had 9.1.  MAJOR dependency problems with updating its packages, and you can't find one package needed to depend on another.. ragh!  Dependency hell, as they call it.  As I said, SuSE may be better than that now, but...
[12:26] <NthDegree> TnadeN, you restarted after installing it
[12:26] <ungamed> NthDegree:  good point
[12:26] <TnadeN> NthDegree: no..
[12:26] <Ishmael> can anyone tell me how to connect my ubuntu adsl from terminal?
[12:26] <NthDegree> restart your PC then
[12:26] <NthDegree> after install you have to restart your PC
[12:26] <Skorm> Ishmael, how do you mean?
[12:26] <ungamed> CrashProne: yast and smart is rather good of taking care of dependensies now imo
[12:26] <manopulus> Ishmael: use pppoe config tools
[12:27] <x3n> Ok.  The big question: ext3 or reiserfs?  This is for a laptop that will be being used for normal everyday stuff.
[12:27] <NthDegree> Ishmael you on a USB modem?
[12:27] <TnadeN> NthDegree: it i do that the installation starts all over again
[12:27] <CrashProne> Hm, good.  Hehe.
[12:27] <wietz0r> x3n: reiserfs
[12:27] <frogzoo> x3n: ext3
[12:27] <wietz0r> x3n: then google tune2fs
[12:27] <wietz0r> no wait
[12:27] <NthDegree> TnadeN, remove the CD and restart
[12:27] <wietz0r> x3n: ext3 then google tune2fs
[12:27] <njan> x3n, indubitably ext3.
[12:27] <x3n> ext3 and tune2fs?   a unanimous agreement?
[12:28] <NthDegree> after installing off the desktop CD the install (should be) completed
[12:28] <narfmaster> x3n, no you want xfs
[12:28] <TnadeN> i have another OS installed (that i couldn't remove, where is the format tool??) shouldn't that boot then
[12:28] <x3n> Done.  Thanks folks.
[12:28] <NthDegree> x3n, no
[12:28] <LMJ_Work> Hello the chan
[12:28] <NthDegree> x3n, the other FSes are faster but sometimes have issues
[12:28] <x3n> knew it was too good to be true...
[12:28] <Ishmael> NthDegree, yeah I'm on a USB modem and I wanna know how connect to internet from terminal
[12:28] <CrashProne> Really-  I've been using reiserfs all this time, I tend to go for what's newer rather than proven reliable.
[12:28] <wietz0r> narfmaster: No he doesn't
[12:28] <narfmaster> xfs is nice in my experience
[12:28] <senjin> I have a problem when i formadet my hardrives i made one partion for the home directory witch i have found is to small but how do a get root rights so i can wright in the root folder how do you log in as root if you havent specifend any root user?
[12:28] <NthDegree> Ishmael, you have to install drivers for your USB modem, and load firmware into it
[12:28] <njan> x3n, the bottom line is, ext3 might not be the most exciting FS out there, but it rarely breaks and it doesn't have *bad* performance
[12:29] <njan> narfmaster, xfs is a terrible choice for a laptop
[12:29] <NthDegree> then the internet connects automatically at boot mostly
[12:29] <wietz0r> x3n: You wan't ext3 because it is the most reliable, then you want to use tune2fs so it will be just as fast as the others
[12:29] <ungamed> I tried to install ubuntu before I tried suse, but it overwrittet the partition I tried to resize and took me like 3 days to get all my data back (thank you Winternals)
[12:29] <Ishmael> NthDegree, I have already done it
[12:29] <frogzoo> CrashProne: that's fair nuff for apps, but with file systems, the file system IS your data
[12:29] <Skorm> senjin: su or sudo
[12:29] <x3n> What would be faster: reiserfs or ext3+tune2fs?
[12:29] <njan> narfmaster, xfs is a very poor choice where power isn't assured because it's built with the assumption that sudden failure isn't going to happen very often. For a desktop with UPS or server, it's a good choice if you have lots of data, but not on a laptop.
[12:29] <NthDegree> Ishmael, what modem is it?
[12:29] <Ishmael> NthDegree, and now I'm connected but I use an assistant to connect
[12:29] <njan> x3n, it depends what you're doing. But again, ext3 is far, far, far more troublefree and far better supported than anything else.
[12:29] <Ishmael> NthDegree, thomson speedtouch 330
[12:30] <Toma-> anyone got a decent video+voice over IP setup with their ubuntu? possibly with Ekiga? if so, what hardware are you using?
[12:30] <NthDegree> Ishmael grab the speedtouchconf script
[12:30] <Skorm> Ishmael: are you using usb or ethernet?
[12:30] <NthDegree> USB Skorm
[12:30] <wietz0r> apt-get remove sudo
[12:30] <Ishmael> yes Skorm
[12:30] <NthDegree> Speedtouch = cr@p free modem ISPs hand out
[12:30] <njan> Data Integrity > slight performance gain
[12:30] <x3n> will tune2fs make the ext3 any less stable?
[12:30] <njan> x3n, not if you're sensible
[12:30] <NthDegree> no x3n
[12:30] <wietz0r> x3n: no
[12:30] <Skorm> NthDegree: problery better than my dlink that cant handle port forwarding for torrents
[12:31] <wietz0r> can anyone tell me why using a root account is eeeeeeeeeeeeevil again ?
[12:31] <Ishmael> NthDegree, but is there a command to connect pc into internet from terminal?
[12:31] <Skorm> wietz0r: incase you do bad things
[12:31] <NthDegree> wietz0r it's like using an admin account in windows
[12:31] <x3n> I can use tune2fs at any time, correct?
[12:31] <NthDegree> x3n yes
[12:31] <Skorm> wietz0r: or some noob walks up and trys to rm / or w/e
[12:31] <ynacho> hola
[12:31] <NthDegree> !ubuntu-es
[12:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntu-es - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:31] <NthDegree> !es
[12:31] <wietz0r> Skorm: sudo gives root permission, right ?
[12:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:31] <x3n> Alright, I'll go with ext3, and then once I get settled, I'll research tune2fs and try and tweak things a bit.  And pray my laptop doesn't start to smoke.
[12:31] <x3n> Thanks again folks.
[12:32] <frogzoo> wietz0r: well root's obviously necessary for admin - just you only want to touch system files only when it's  necessary
[12:32] <wietz0r> Skorm: So when fucking up while using sudo still sucks
[12:32] <Skorm> wietz0r: yep
[12:32] <wietz0r> Then you could just use "su -c"
[12:32] <Ishmael> NthDegree, what must I do?
[12:32] <frogzoo> x3n: hdparm will have much more effect than tune2fs
[12:32] <Skorm> wietz0r: in ubuntu the actul root user is differnt from other distros
[12:32] <cwillu> how do I add an apt-get pgp key again?
[12:33] <NthDegree> Ishmael there's a script you can get that will configure your speedtouch and enable auto-connect on boot
[12:33] <wietz0r> Skorm: Explain the difference
[12:33] <NthDegree> i think it is speedtouchconf
[12:33] <NthDegree> try googling it
[12:33] <x3n> I'll look into that too.
[12:33] <Skorm> wietz0r: well it would have a "set" password
[12:33] <x3n> Another question:  what's the command to see the size of partitions?  In megs/gigs, not blocks.
[12:33] <wietz0r> Skorm: What ?
[12:33] <Skorm> wietz0r: lol, i dunno
[12:33] <wietz0r> Skorm: All root users have a "set" password
[12:33] <x3n> I think it was du, but I can find the arguements.
[12:33] <Ishmael> NthDegree, I'm sorry, but where is this script?
[12:33] <wietz0r> Skorm: I had that impression
[12:34] <NthDegree> Ishmael, on the internet - google it!
[12:34] <Skorm> wietz0r: When it comes down to it, I know crap all about linux
[12:34] <Ishmael> ohh thanks
[12:34] <NthDegree> google speedtouchconf and download it
[12:34] <wietz0r> So, instead of teaching users to howto root with caution
[12:34] <frogzoo> x3n: df -h
[12:34] <wietz0r> you teach them to go nuts with sudo
[12:34] <Ishmael> I'm looking for it NthDegree
[12:34] <NthDegree> wietz0r there is a good reason
[12:34] <wietz0r> and random scripts that use apt-get install --force for everything ?
[12:34] <NthDegree> if you have root it is weaker
[12:34] <x3n> frogzoo: thanks
[12:34] <NthDegree> because a hacker knows root is the admin account
[12:35] <NthDegree> if you use sudo they need to know your username which isn't always obvious
[12:35] <Skorm> Im just here for the n00b that ask "where's internet explorer"
[12:35] <wietz0r> NthDegree: a user account with full sudo rights is the exact same
[12:35] <NthDegree> LMFAO
[12:35] <cwillu> skorm:  ie4linux?  :)
[12:35] <NthDegree> wietz0r wrong
[12:35] <NthDegree> not on ssh it isn't
[12:35] <frogzoo> NthDegree: plus, the user login is logged
[12:35] <CyDrive> can someone help me is there any linux distro that will allow me to play games that are made for windows?
[12:35] <wietz0r> NthDegree: you mean if I use "sudo rm -rf /" it won't delete it all ?
[12:36] <cwillu> CyDrive: investigate cedega, probably
[12:36] <wietz0r> CyDrive: google "wine for linux"
[12:36] <NthDegree> it will, but i'm talking about hackers here
[12:36] <Skorm> CyDrive: not really, you can emulate windows
[12:36] <NthDegree> a hacker KNOWS root
[12:36] <wietz0r> NthDegree: I'm talking about malicious hackers
[12:36] <NthDegree> but doesn't know YOUR USERNAME
[12:36] <NthDegree> so they need to work out YOUR USERNAME before they can get root
[12:36] <wietz0r> NthDegree: Also, a sane person will just use iptables to only accept certain ips
[12:36] <frogzoo> !appdb > CyDrive
[12:36] <NthDegree> wietz0r but this is for newbies
[12:37] <Skorm> wietz0r: Ubuntu is made for new people to linux remember xD
[12:37] <cowbud> RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr
[12:37] <Skorm> cowbud: KIKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[12:37] <deadkarma> well things are starting to look better
[12:37] <wietz0r> NthDegree: Newbies shouldn't setup a fullblown ssh server
[12:37] <cowbud> Ubuntu is for everyone shooooot
[12:37] <deadkarma> i still have a couple of questions though
[12:37] <wietz0r> NthDegree: Also, you can just disable root login from ssh
[12:37] <frogzoo> wietz0r: how else 2 learn?
[12:38] <NthDegree> wietz0r but on a remote server where you need root?
[12:38] <ompaul> wietz0r, there is nothing wrong with setting up openssh-server by anyone
[12:38] <NthDegree> then root would be 1/2 cracked
[12:38] <deadkarma> how do i get this thing to allow full permission to the different accounts, and does ubuntu allow name files to have spaces in the names?
[12:38] <wietz0r> NthDegree: a remote server: 1 probably wouldn't run ubuntu, and 2: would run iptables
[12:38] <Dimensions> hi, i have a question ... i want to connect my usbs through a usb hub ... but when i connect it only detects one usb and when i connect them directly it connects four when i connect four ... while on the hub i am trying to connect seven ... it only detects them when i give this command : d
[12:39] <NthDegree> wietz0r, note newbies and there is a server version of ubuntu
[12:39] <frogzoo> deadkarma: spaces are legit - you can escape\ them\ like\ so
[12:39] <CrashProne> I do all sorts of servery things hugely risky to my computer and not securing them properly.. I don't value what's on my computer, hehe.
[12:39] <NthDegree> so they might very well do
[12:39] <wietz0r> NthDegree: Yes, there is also a server version of windows
[12:39] <wietz0r> NthDegree: server versions don't mean shit
[12:39] <NthDegree> wietz0r and people use it
[12:39] <frogzoo> deadkarma: & you DON'T want full permissions to user accounts - permission control exists for a reason
[12:39] <Skorm> wietz0r: really, it windows with some extra tools, woot :>
[12:39] <wietz0r> NthDegree: Atleast windows has an onboard firewall
[12:39] <Dimensions> rmmod echi_hcd
[12:39] <Dimensions> hci tool dev
[12:39] <NthDegree> actually it has less exploits
[12:39] <deadkarma> okay now how about giving permission to write to a folder?
[12:39] <ompaul> wietz0r, allowing root login is wrong, (no matter what the circumstance (we could debate single usermode but lets not)), I run ubuntu on a couple of servers and am happy, they are internet facing
[12:39] <NthDegree> wietz0r so does ubuntu
[12:40] <Skorm> wietz0r: bah, i disable it on sight
[12:40] <frogzoo> deadkarma: chmod u+w
[12:40] <NthDegree> and no-one needs a firewall on ubuntu
[12:40] <NthDegree> they do on windows
[12:40] <Skorm> Ubuntu is secure to start with
[12:40] <deadkarma> i'm guessing from what you said about file names i'll need to rename my music
[12:40] <deadkarma> do that from a terminal?
[12:40] <NthDegree> although i do build my own firewall
[12:40] <frogzoo> NthDegree: a firewall's still not a bad idea, however
[12:40] <wietz0r> NthDegree: What is the onboard firewall ?
[12:41] <NthDegree> built into the kernel
[12:41] <NthDegree> called iptables
[12:41] <Dimensions> hi, i have a question ... i want to connect my usbs through a usb hub ... but when i connect it only detects one usb and when i connect them directly it connects four when i connect four ... while on the hub i am trying to connect seven ... it only detects them when i give this command :rmmod echi_hcd
[12:41] <Dimensions> hci tool dev
[12:41] <Dimensions> i want my system to detect all ports via usb directly as i plugin hub ... what should i do ??
[12:41] <frogzoo> deadkarma: rename? why?
[12:41] <NthDegree> you have to configure it but it is there
[12:41] <deadkarma> i do want to give permission to me.  i'd like to be able to create folders and rename them
[12:41] <NthDegree> just like windows firewall, you have to turn that on too
[12:41] <frogzoo> deadkarma: linux will take any file names you can throw at it
[12:41] <frogzoo> wietz0r: man iptables
[12:42] <Skorm> frogzoo: what happens if you put a dot in front xD
[12:42] <wietz0r> frogzoo: I know how to use iptables
[12:42] <frogzoo> Skorm: emacs dude :)
[12:42] <wietz0r> frogzoo: I've run a pure debian and a pure gentoo server for years
[12:42] <krism> emacs <3
[12:42] <frogzoo> wietz0r: "What is the onboard firewall ?" confused me
[12:42] <wietz0r> I've got to go to work
[12:43] <wietz0r> later
[12:43] <LMJ_Work> Hello the chan
[12:43] <deadkarma> then why will rythem box not play the music on my ipod?
[12:43] <sirena> hola
[12:43] <NthDegree> the kernel has a good firewall, that kicks a normal personal firewall's ass
[12:43] <Skorm> woot, i love linux debates
[12:43] <LMJ_Work> hola
[12:43] <NthDegree> !es
[12:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:43] <LMJ_Work> !fr
[12:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:43] <Skorm> !en
[12:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about en - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:43] <Skorm> phail!
[12:44] <NthDegree> lol
[12:44] <LMJ_Work> !ch
[12:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about ch - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:44] <LMJ_Work> hehe
[12:44] <krism> !zh
[12:44] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[12:44] <frogzoo> Skorm: one of these days we might see 64 bit windows...
[12:45] <LMJ_Work> I'm trying to run  PHP-SAPRFC, that's a module for PHP to connect to SAP, i saw a package RPM with "php-saprfc"   I wonder if this could be made for Ubuntu too, do you have any idea where i could ask or so ?
[12:45] <Skorm> frogzoo: you seen vista. the worlds largest memory hog/cpu hog
[12:45] <Skorm> 3.2gb that does less than ubuntu
[12:45] <NthDegree> there is 64 bit windows
[12:45] <NthDegree> windows XP/2003 both have 64 bit copies
[12:46] <NthDegree> IA 64 and AMD64 versions
[12:46] <Skorm> NthDegree, I'd debate those, as "ports"
[12:46] <narfmaster> any good Windows 64-bit programs?
[12:46] <frogzoo> Skorm: jan 2007 dude
[12:46] <deadkarma> why can i not get the thing to allow me to create folders, and to play the music that is on my ipod?
[12:46] <CrashProne> It looked like XP with a few extra apps, and changed icons/themes..  oh, and that 3d desktop thing I heard they're making that... I think I heard it ran pretty slow.
[12:46] <NthDegree> narfmaster there is a lack of 64 bit firewalls and antiviruses for it
[12:46] <krism> deadkarma: what thing?
[12:46] <frogzoo> run a _beta_ version of doze? ha ha
[12:46] <NthDegree> but 64 bit windows is immune to most 32 bit viruses :p
[12:47] <Skorm> frogzoo: me 3
[12:47] <Skorm> vmware is teh best
[12:47] <deadkarma> ubunto
[12:47] <krism> Skorm: did you try vmware server?
[12:47] <krism> Skorm: it's how i do my actual "work" (coding for win32)
[12:47] <Skorm> Still am
[12:47] <IseeIsee> this is my first time I'm going to install anything on linux. I downloaded the bin file of JDK. how can I install it now
[12:47] <CyDrive> How do i install a .sh file?
[12:48] <frogzoo> CyDrive: you read the README or INSTALL
[12:48] <Skorm> krism: I guess if vmware didnt realse the free server, they wouldn't be able to compet with wemu
[12:48] <IseeIsee> in windows it would be just clicking the .exe file, how you do it in ubuntu ?
[12:48] <NthDegree> sh file
[12:48] <Dimensions> can any one help my question ?
[12:48] <krism> deadkarma: never heard of ubunto. try to form more specific questions ro fwr gwlp
[12:48] <cpk2> could anyone help me with swat? I cant seem to access localhost:901
[12:48] <krism> !ask > Dimensions
[12:48] <deadkarma> ubuntu
[12:48] <NthDegree> krism he asked
[12:48] <NthDegree> read above
[12:49] <santa99> !ask
[12:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:49] <NthDegree> ubuntu autodetects all compatible usb devices normally
[12:49] <deadkarma> i'm in a chat room for ubuntu help.  why on this planet would i be in here for help with a different os?
[12:49] <Dimensions> krism: hi, i have a question ... i want to connect my usbs through a usb hub ... but when i connect it only detects one usb and when i connect them directly it connects four when i connect four ... while on the hub i am trying to connect seven ... it only detects them when i give this command :rmmod echi_hcd
[12:49] <Dimensions> hci tool dev
[12:49] <Dimensions> i want my system to detect all ports via usb directly as i plugin hub ... what should i do ??
[12:49] <frogzoo> deadkarma: stranger things have happened
[12:49] <deadkarma> well i'm feeling highly ignored
[12:49] <krism> Dimensions: yikes, sorry, i'm out of my leauge
[12:50] <Dimensions> ummmz..
[12:50] <deadkarma> i ask my question than get a vague answer then i ask for clarification than i'm ignored
[12:50] <master5o1> :)
[12:50] <krism> deadkarma: sorry, i can't understand your question
[12:50] <rixth> deadkarma, get used to it =(
[12:50] <master5o1> i got ipodlinux too :D
[12:50] <santa99> deadkarma: whats your question
[12:50] <krism> deadkarma: "ubuntu" is an operating system.
[12:50] <frogzoo> !patience
[12:50] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:50] <Dimensions> no one around can help my question ?
[12:51] <krism> Dimensions: you might get flamed to death, but maybe the kernel dev mailing list could help.
[12:51] <NthDegree> Dimensions just remove the module
[12:51] <narfmaster> Dimensions, you could blacklist it
[12:51] <Dimensions> how and what NthDegree ?
[12:51] <NthDegree> or blacklist the module (i don't know how but it's possible)
[12:51] <Dimensions> and what module NthDegree ?
[12:51] <NthDegree> the one you said
[12:52] <NthDegree> clue: it only detects them when i give this command :rmmod echi_hcd
[12:52] <deadkarma> here we go again.  i need to know how to set my account to have write access so that i can create files, as well as how i can i get rythembox to play the music that is on my ipod
[12:52] <Dimensions> im not following you NthDegree
[12:52] <deadkarma> and remember, i'm not good with the terminal
[12:52] <NthDegree> you said "it only detects them when i give this command :rmmod echi_hcd"
[12:52] <narfmaster> Dimensions, edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:52] <NthDegree> rmmod removes loaded kernel modules
[12:52] <Dimensions> yes thats right NthDegree
[12:52] <JohnRobert> Anyone know what the current state of XGL is? Is development for it quite active?
[12:52] <krism> deadkarma: how do you mout the ipod? automounter or via fstab?
[12:53] <NthDegree> so make a script to either auto remove the module
[12:53] <narfmaster> JohnRobert, development is very active
[12:53] <NthDegree> or do as narfmaster said
[12:53] <deadkarma> ubuntu recognizes it
[12:53] <JohnRobert> that's good to hear
[12:53] <frogzoo> JohnRobert: I asked same question in #ubuntu-xgl yesterday - it's alpha, but apparently pretty stable
[12:53] <narfmaster> JohnRobert, you should look at compiz.net if you haven't already
[12:54] <JohnRobert> so nowhere close to being part of the 'standard' dapper repos then? :p
[12:54] <JohnRobert> I did have it working a while ago, but it was buggy as hell and slow
[12:54] <frogzoo> !xgl > JohnRobert
[12:56] <IseeIsee> how can I install .bin file on Ubuntu ? its the JDK
[12:57] <Arbiter> IseeIsee, chmod +x <file>.bin
[12:57] <Arbiter> ./<file>.bin
[12:57] <JohnRobert> I am beaten to it :p
[12:57] <deadkarma> how do i set permissions?
[12:57] <master5o1> chmod --help :D
[12:57] <frogzoo> !permissions > deadkarma
[12:57] <Dimensions> narfmaster: ... i got this message ... Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" -- using "application/*"
[12:57] <Dimensions> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[12:58] <deadkarma> !permissions
[12:58] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:58] <cpk2> !swat
[12:58] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:58] <cpk2> !samba
[12:58] <master5o1> Ok...I definitely have mysql-server installed...
[12:58] <narfmaster> Dimensions, go to a terminal and type: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:58] <narfmaster> or kwrite if you're in KDE
[12:58] <master5o1> so how do i create the DB??
[12:59] <frogzoo> master5o1: dpkg -l mysql-server-5.0 ?
[12:59] <IseeIsee> Arbiter can't I install it without using the terminal ?
[12:59] <czr> does anyone know where to find prepackaged (for lts) version of gcc-4.1?
[12:59] <czr> the version (4.0.3) is broken for me (generated faulty code)
[12:59] <Arbiter> IseeIsee, the jdk can be installed with synaptic too
[01:00] <IseeIsee> Arbiter i'm using ubuntu/linux first time
[01:00] <cpk2> is it normal to get failed to open device errors when using apt get?
[01:00] <master5o1> frogzoo		master5o1: dpkg -l mysql-server-5.0 ? why?
[01:01] <frogzoo> master5o1: if you're not sure you have mysql installed
[01:01] <Arbiter> IseeIsee, no problem... go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[01:01] <frogzoo> cpk2: not if you're using sudo, no
[01:01] <Arbiter> IseeIsee, search for "sun-java5-jdk" mark it for installation and then click "Apply", wait and enjoy ;)
[01:01] <deadkarma> thanks for the squat help.  guess i'll do it myself
[01:02] <cpk2> i was using sudo =(
[01:02] <frogzoo> cpk2: maybe a more specific problem description?
[01:02] <IseeIsee> Arbiter: I already have the file on my hdd
[01:03] <LMJ_Work> what is the Ubuntu developer channel ?
[01:03] <nagyv> hello! I have a 19MB /tmp. Is this normal? I read at the forums that (K)Ubuntu cleans the tmp at boot. Is this info correct?
[01:03] <master5o1> i think all i need to do is make the DB...duno how...:S
[01:03] <Arbiter> IseeIsee, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:03] <frogzoo> nagyv: /tmp is for temporary files - so 19meg is no big deal
[01:03] <cpk2> well it looks like everything installed correcty but it randomly gives me "x error: baddevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166" and it goes on
[01:04] <nagyv> frogzoo: thx
[01:05] <meez> Hey, I'm having a real problem resetting mysql root password, all the guides are read just simply don't work and I can't figure out why. Tried to use this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset but I get an error telling me I can't do it because of the --skip-grant-tables option, which is needed... and just makes no sense :\
[01:06] <nagyv> I would like to install a game, that needs 1,2Gb in /tmp, but my partition has only 700Mb. It recommends export TMPDIR=/else. I decided about the "else", but nothing happens after export TMPDIR=/else. Should I reboot?
[01:07] <frogzoo> nagyv: replace "else" with directory path that has > 2gig spare
[01:07] <Dimensions> narfmaster:  cannot open display: (null)
[01:07] <Dimensions> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[01:07] <narfmaster> Dimensions, try using nano instead of gedit
[01:07] <master5o1> :\
[01:07] <master5o1> :/
[01:07] <master5o1> O_o
[01:08] <frogzoo> ^_^
[01:08] <nagyv> that what I did (I created a folder as sudo /home/tmp, that has 7Gb free), then as sudo I said export TMPDIR=/home/tmp, but the script still says that my tmpdir doesn't have enough free space.
[01:08] <Dimensions> okay ... its opened now ..what and where i exactly do in the file narfmaster
[01:08] <frogzoo> nagyv: /tmp might be hardcoded, & not respect TMPDIR ?
[01:09] <amadeo1988> How do i watch quicktime videos on firefox in ubuntu?
[01:09] <narfmaster> Dimensions, add this to the file: blacklist echi_hcd
[01:09] <nagyv> frogzoo: from the sh script: TMPROOT=${TMPDIR:=/tmp} what does this mean?
[01:10] <cpk2> anyone know how to get swat to work? I cant open localhost:901 and i seem to have the correct information in /etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf
[01:10] <Dimensions> narfmaster:  any where in the file ?
[01:10] <narfmaster> Dimensions, anywhere should be fine
[01:10] <IseeIsee> what is this mess: you have million ways to install a program unlike windows
[01:10] <IseeIsee> I wanna install JDK, what should I do, things are different for different versions
[01:11] <amadeo1988> Does anyone know how i can watch quicktime video in mozilla firefox on ubuntu dapper drake? i'm stuck
[01:11] <meez> *curses about MySQL and its inability to reset password*, please, someone, a way to reset the mysql root password?
[01:11] <Axe_away> amadeo1988: install the mplayer plugin
[01:11] <amadeo1988> Where is that
[01:11] <Axe_away> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76946
[01:12] <amadeo1988> Axe_away: Where can i obtain that plugin?
[01:12] <frogzoo> nagyv: it means use /tmp unless TMPDIR is defined, so should work
[01:12] <KenSentMe> !restricted > amadeo1988
[01:12] <Islan> ulaaaaaaaa
[01:12] <Ng> meez: if you google for it you will find there's an init sql option you can pass to the mysql daemon to run some SQL before it starts properly, you can use that to reset the password
[01:12] <KenSentMe> amadeo1988: check the page ubotu sent you
[01:12] <Ng> meez: I forget the exact procedure, but google will know :)
[01:12] <amadeo1988> Thanks
[01:12] <nagyv> amadeo1988: hope this will help: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html
[01:12] <Axe_away> amadeo1988- read that thread
[01:12] <meez> On my way Micheal!
[01:12] <Axe_away> :P
[01:12] <Islan> esto q es
[01:12] <Islan> hello?
[01:12] <Islan> Oh
[01:12] <master5o1> :S
[01:12] <nagyv> frogzoo: whrrrr, but it doesn :(
[01:13] <Islan> I don't speak english
[01:13] <KenSentMe> !es
[01:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:13] <master5o1> confused: making mysql db :S
[01:14] <meez> (it would really be helpfull if I actualyl knew what I was googling for :P)
[01:15] <frogzoo> nagyv: oh, didn't realise you were doing this as sudo - do you need sudo? if you need root & need to set an environment var, you'll have better luck with 'sudo -i'
[01:15] <Axe_> I have an ATI Radeon 9200. Does that mean that if I run programs through wine that use OpenGL for video rendering, I will have 3D hardware accelleration?
[01:16] <bart3k> Axe_: yes
[01:16] <narfmaster> Axe_, no you still need drivers
[01:16] <frogzoo> Axe_: glxinfo |grep direct
[01:16] <mwe> Axe_: if it works in linux
[01:16] <mwe> Axe_: if it doesn't work in X it wont work in wine either
[01:17] <JohnRobert> it can probably be made to work
[01:17] <Axe_> I just got like four different answers
[01:17] <Axe_> o_O
[01:17] <narfmaster> Axe_, trust me on that :)
[01:17] <frogzoo> Axe_: yes, but mine is the correct answer :p
[01:17] <meez> fuckit, time to remove mysql, and compile myself
[01:17] <Axe_> ...
[01:17] <Axe_> hahah
[01:17] <meez> repositires ftl.
[01:17] <JohnRobert> I can safely say though, linux isn't great for 3d gaming..
[01:17] <Axe_> I asked ubotu and he gave me a link to a binarydrivershowto document..
[01:17] <Toma-> ...o rly?
[01:17] <Axe_> If you own an ATI card that is not on this list, you already have accelerated 3D.
[01:18] <KenSentMe> Axe_: have you installed the drivers according to the wiki?
[01:18] <nagyv> frogzoo: I have found this out. But an other question arised. Who sould be the owner of my new tmp? my or root or nobody? which setup is the safest?
[01:18] <Axe_> #
[01:18] <Axe_> You know you own a "Radeon" card
[01:18] <Axe_> #
[01:18] <Axe_> Your card model is an entire number in the 9xxx series, and is equal to or above 9500 (e.g. 9500, 9550, 9600, 9700, 9800), or your card model begins with 'X' (e.g. X300, X600, X700, X800)
[01:18] <IseeIsee> can I use my my google account on gaim ?
[01:18] <meez> yes IseeIsee
[01:18] <Toma-> Axe_: pasting is not allowed. thee the /topic
[01:18] <IseeIsee> how
[01:18] <Toma-> *see
[01:18] <master5o1> Google Talk = Jabber
[01:18] <meez> http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[01:19] <frogzoo> nagyv: /tmp should always be owned by root - but should have +t set, -> !permissions if interested
[01:19] <Axe_> KenSentMe: No, I still haven't found out if I have to
[01:19] <leks> anyone able to help me?
[01:19] <leks> i cant set my gtk anymore
[01:19] <leks> its like a package is lacking
[01:19] <leks> http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607181318101400x1050scrotde6.png
[01:21] <Axe_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18272
[01:21] <Toma-> leks: have you been running X as root?
[01:21] <leks> nope
[01:21] <leks> to
[01:21] <leks> ewps
[01:21] <nagyv> frogzoo: thx, it works now
[01:21] <leks> Toma-: no im not
[01:21] <frogzoo> nagyv: cool, enjoy
[01:21] <Toma-> mmkay
[01:21] <leks> i just recently did a dist-upgrade
[01:21] <Toma-> is it gtk or gtk2?
[01:22] <frogzoo> Toma-: locate gtk
[01:22] <leks> and it deleted all the gtk engines
[01:22] <leks> but i reinstalled them afterwards
[01:22] <Toma-> frogzoo: what?
[01:22] <leks> Toma-: gtk2 for sure
[01:23] <leks> no ide?
[01:23] <leks> idea
[01:23] <leks> ?
[01:23] <frogzoo> Toma-: enter that as a command in a terminal
[01:23] <Toma-> leks: probably a config file not getting changed
[01:24] <RichEd> question for my interest: Ubuntu install at one point says "installing 386" when i install on my pentium / centrino ... does the code actually take advantage of the pentium archictecture ?
[01:24] <Toma-> frogzoo: what do i want every file named gtk?
[01:24] <Dimensions> narfmaster: now as i have blacklisted module ... it only shows two usbs instead of seven
[01:24] <KeeganX> I was wondering if there was a way to do a server install for the new Ubuntu Install CDs?
[01:24] <leks> Toma-: i already deleted all gnome settings
[01:24] <Toma-> RichEd: not really. it doesnt need to, unless youre encodeing/decoding video and audio
[01:25] <Toma-> leks: hold on
[01:25] <leks> .gconf / .gnome / .gnome2 / .gconf_private something
[01:25] <frogzoo> Toma-: so you can answer your question...
[01:25] <narfmaster> Dimensions, what was the original problem again?
[01:25] <leks> err .gnome_private
[01:25] <Toma-> leks: .gtkrc?
[01:25] <njan> RichEd, there is a -686 kernel
[01:25] <Toma-> frogzoo: oh :D
[01:25] <leks> Toma-: the theme manager would override gtkrc
[01:26] <ahihi> hi, what's the app for checking whether some program is blocking /dev/dsp?
[01:26] <qmf> hey guys, how would i eject a cd from the terminal?
[01:26] <DarKnesS_WolF> what dose pm-utils called in ubuntu ? or it's not included ?
[01:26] <narfmaster> qmf, eject
[01:26] <qmf> awesome
[01:26] <Toma-> leks: yeh i know...
[01:26] <RichEd> njan: do you mean "Ubuntu has a -686 kernel" or "there is a -686 kernel available if you really wanted to use it"
[01:26] <Dimensions> narfmaster:  problem was that when i plug my usb hub it deted only one usb while i have pluged seven with it ... but when i plug without hub four usb then it detects it ... i want my system to detect all usbs with hub
[01:26] <master5o1> im going...
[01:26] <njan> RichEd, the latter.
[01:27] <Shigun> Somebody think they could help me isolate a problem/try to find a solution real quick?
[01:27] <narfmaster> Dimensions, what type of hub specifically?
[01:27] <RichEd> and last question: when would it be of benefit ... just wanting to know these answers in case anyone asks me ... not that i have a need for speed or anything
[01:28] <DarkMageZ> Shigun, no. no-body knows everything. just ask the question and someone might help you
[01:28] <njan> RichEd, It won't hurt, and I'd imagine it'd be better optimised. sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-`uname -r`-686
[01:28] <Dimensions> its a seven port usb hub 2.0 Targus made ...
[01:28] <njan> bleurgh
[01:28] <Dimensions> narfmaster:
[01:28] <HBuzacott> Anyone had any experience with compiling the brzcom driver? I'm stumped.
[01:28] <njan> RichEd, It won't hurt, and I'd imagine it'd be better optimised. sudo apt-get install kernel-image-`uname -r`-686
[01:28] <njan> :)
[01:29] <LMJ_Work> shoot
[01:29] <leks> Toma-: its so weird since edgy + themes works just well on another machine
[01:29] <mwe> RichEd: the 686 kernel is optimized. You probably wont note the difference in your everyday work though
[01:29] <leks> :-(
[01:29] <narfmaster> Dimensions, i don't know - do all the devices work without a hub individually?
[01:29] <meez> WHY is it so god damned stupidly hard just to change a mysql password...
[01:29] <JohnRobert> is there a kernel that suits a celeron-m type cpu better?
[01:29] <Dimensions> yes they do narfmaster
[01:29] <frogzoo> mwe: seems to help gnome o.O
[01:29] <Toma-> leks: /etc/gconf... what the last modified date on those? should have been updated with the dis-upgrade
[01:29] <meez> 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[01:29] <RichEd> tx ... will file away under : nice to look at when i have a moment ... if i am gong to be an evangelist, i may need to know my chapters & verses when dealing with the skeptics
[01:30] <narfmaster> Dimensions, sorry i'm out of ideas
[01:30] <JohnRobert> meez, you have to start it in safe mode or something... http://www.john-hunt.com/linux/2006/05/12/mysql-upgrade-breaking-things/
[01:30] <JohnRobert> that guide should help you a bit
[01:30] <meez> mmm ok ill give it a read thx
[01:30] <JohnRobert> http://www.john-hunt.com/linux/2005/06/27/rescuing-lost-mysql-root-password/
[01:30] <JohnRobert> sorry, I meant that one
[01:31] <JohnRobert> </plug my blog>
[01:31] <Dimensions> ummss
[01:31] <leks> Toma-: Its from today
[01:31] <Dimensions> ty narfmaster
[01:31] <kindor> is there a way in gconf to disable the application menu for all users?
[01:31] <mwe> frogzoo: how does it help gnome? does it run faster?
[01:31] <Toma-> leks: hmm ok
[01:31] <Axe_> How do I run something as super user
[01:31] <Axe_> do I have to run it as root
[01:31] <frogzoo> mwe: seems to - or just my imagination?
[01:31] <Axe_> 'cause its an install program for vmware tools
[01:31] <Shigun> Basically, im having the hardfreeze issue with Dapper as well.  I think i've got my specific problem down to one of two issues: Nvidia drivers or Kernel.  Im leaning more towards the kernel, but dont know for sure.  I tried compiling my own kernel, however for some reason my wireless did not work, I believe that to be due to the fact that I could not install the ndiswrapper module with the new kernel.  What would be the best solution to go
[01:31] <Shigun> about t solution to go about testing these two scenarios?
[01:32] <Toma-> leks: well, im not sure. i would suggest looking more into your /etc dir for gconf/gtk goodies, as when i did a dist-upgrade, the modified /etc files where excluded from upgrades, meaning errors were stuck in /etc config files :(
[01:32] <mwe> frogzoo: I don't know. In theory it should be faster though I havent noticed it much personally
[01:32] <Toma-> leks, brb
[01:32] <meez> mysqld_safe[9974] : started
[01:32] <meez> STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
[01:32] <meez> classic, truly amazing.
[01:34] <hydroksyde> anybody have any experience with the Leadtek TV2000XP RM in Linux???
[01:34] <HBuzacott> Anyone had any experience with compiling the brzcom driver? I'm stumped.
[01:34] <leks> Toma-: so what am I supposed to do :-)
[01:35] <hydroksyde> HBuzacott, is this a kernel module?
[01:35] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: I dont think it worked =P
[01:35] <Toma-> leks: well, my seemingly infinite wisdom has been knocked back to a pebble again :) not 100% with gtk stuff
[01:35] <JohnRobert> did it work meez ?
[01:35] <meez> Not at all :\
[01:35] <meez> all i want to do is set a root password
[01:35] <HBuzacott> hydroksyde, it is a pcmcia-cs module so I guess it would be a kernal module under a broad heading
[01:36] <leks> Toma-: I probably copy /etc/gconf from the working machine over to mine here
[01:36] <hydroksyde> hmmm...
[01:36] <JohnRobert> yer, did you follow my guide?
[01:36] <Toma-> leks: its worth a try
[01:36] <meez> i tried removing, compiling, getting again therough apt-get, but all seem adament in keeping the old password and giving me no chance to reset it
[01:36] <HBuzacott> hydroksyde, I just can't get the damn thing to compile
[01:36] <meez> yeah, I reaqd it.
[01:36] <hydroksyde> I don't have exp with pcmcia, sorry
[01:36] <leks> Toma-: Probably :-)
[01:36] <JohnRobert> what happened?
[01:36] <HBuzacott> hydroksyde, thanks anyway :)
[01:36] <erUSUL> !root > meez
[01:36] <CrashProne> apt-get has vmware-player packages available, but they are not downloading.
[01:36] <meez> STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
[01:36] <ShaunLAP> Hey, I've got ubuntu 5.10 (i think) livecd booted on an imac g5. I've mounted the hard drive, and I've got a simple network set up between it and another machine.
[01:36] <DarkMageZ> Shigun, hmm i'd recommend using the nv driver for xorg for awhile. and seeing if the hardfreeze continues... sure it will be painful missing 3daccel, but to trace the bug
[01:36] <CrashProne> Ideas?
[01:36] <ShaunLAP> How can I copy stuff?
[01:36] <meez> erUSUL, im talking about mysql, not os.
[01:36] <ShaunLAP> I used the live expert boot option.
[01:37] <JohnRobert> meez, pm...
[01:37] <hydroksyde> ShaunLAP, in the administration menu, look in shared folders
[01:37] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: Alright, I will test that.  Means no gaming for me for awhile then, neh *bah*
[01:37] <ShaunLAP> I don't have a GUI.
[01:37] <leks> Toma-: ill be back later
[01:37] <Toma-> ok gl
[01:37] <hydroksyde> ShaunLAP, I see...
[01:37] <ShaunLAP> I have "Ubuntu installer main menu", and I can go into the shell.
[01:37] <[A] ndy80> I cannot install IE6 with wine, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18273 can anyone help me please?
[01:37] <DarkMageZ> Shigun, i can't live without fglrx... i can remember the hour i was without xgl & compiz
[01:38] <frogzoo> !appdb > [A] ndy80
[01:38] <isede> anybody knows a way to use USB TV (ATI) with ubuntu?
[01:38] <Shigun> meez: Do you have a user that can log in?  If so, you could issue a simple SQL query to set the root password
[01:38] <ShaunLAP> hydroksyde, any idea?
[01:38] <frogzoo> [A] ndy80: ie6 is a troublesome app
[01:38] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: Ya, hehe
[01:38] <hydroksyde> hydroksyde, you want to copy files to or from this PC
[01:38] <wimpies> which tool(s) could I use to browse to certain ascii files based on a set of matches previously collected with grep ?
[01:38] <ShaunLAP> Hahah. I want to copy files from the ubuntu CD to another machine.
[01:39] <hydroksyde> sorry
[01:39] <ShaunLAP> erUSUL, from the machine with the ubuntu CD.
[01:39] <hydroksyde> erm
[01:39] <CrashProne> Not USB, no, isede.. MythTV is the PVR project for Linux, but I believe the USB tuner cards are not supported?  Look MythTV up for more info.
[01:39] <[A] ndy80> frogzoo: it says it cannot download files from internet... and setup ends
[01:39] <hydroksyde> ShaunLAP, what's the other machine running?
[01:39] <ShaunLAP> I've got windows XP, or OS X.
[01:39] <ShaunLAP> Choose :)
[01:39] <isede> thank you crashprone
[01:39] <snorre> Anyone into SCSI here?  How do I load the SCSI module?  sudo insmod scsi_mod doesn't work...?
[01:40] <hydroksyde> ShaunLAP, lets choose windows XP
[01:40] <osfameron> wooot!  finished my backup via rsync
[01:40] <frogzoo> [A] ndy80: ie6 has been broken a while, not sure if recent .17 release might have fixed it or not, so check appdb
[01:40] <ShaunLAP> Sounds good, since I'm using it now :P
[01:40] <JohnRobert> mythtv is a complex beast, check out freevo!
[01:40] <osfameron> what's the best way to verify a backup?   rsync?
[01:40] <JohnRobert> (also(
[01:40] <osfameron> er
[01:40] <osfameron> I mean dirdiff?
[01:40] <ShaunLAP> osfameron, try MD5ing the folders against each other? No idea.
[01:40] <CyDrive> can someone reccomend a good c++ compiler and debugger with a GUI
[01:40] <CrashProne> Freevo, really?  There's another Linux PVR program?  Awesome, I gotta check that out.
[01:41] <hydroksyde> ShaunLAP, download pscp (from the PuTTY web site), and on the ubuntu box, run sudo apt-get install sshd. then on the winbox, run "pscp ubuntulive:/path/to/foobar foobar"
[01:41] <osfameron> ShaunLAP: yeah, that's going to be fun recursively... oh!  or you mean md5sum can sum recursively?
[01:41] <krism> CyDrive: "anjuta" is nice IDE.
[01:41] <frogzoo> osfameron: restore somewhere else & diff -r if you've space
[01:41] <mwe> CyDrive: the compiler would be g++
[01:41] <osfameron> frogzoo: hmmm, not really gonna happen for space :-(
[01:41] <osfameron> it's on an external HD rather than over network, so I could diff -r anyway I suppose?
[01:41] <HBuzacott> Anyone had any experience with compiling the brzcom driver? Damn thing isn't compiling. I keeping getting the error "cc1: error: ../include/linux/config.h: not a directory". ]  ../ is the pcmcia source
[01:41] <ShaunLAP> hydroksyde, first: the computer doesn't have web access, just crossover to this machine. and second, this busybox shell thing doesn't have apt-get.
[01:41] <mwe> CyDrive: what do you want, gtk qt or what? anjuta or kdevelop I'd say. maybe eclipse
[01:42] <sri_> How to lock certain folders which is opened by 'su' user not sudo su user;is there any process except chmod cmd
[01:42] <hydroksyde> ah
[01:42] <frogzoo> osfameron: no, it's a luxury - but maybe pipe to md5 ?
[01:42] <HBuzacott> make that [../ is the pcmcia-cs source] 
[01:42] <hs-125>  can anyone browse www.monarchhatcheries.co.in?
[01:42] <mwe> sri_: I don't understand you question
[01:42] <osfameron> frogzoo: testing your backups is a luxury?  Or you mean diff -r across filesystems is too heavy?
[01:42] <Skorm> The kernal is like the heart, Unless your qualified, you shouldn't preform heart surgery to linux
[01:43] <frogzoo> osfameron: space to restore a full backup is a luxury
[01:43] <hydroksyde> ShaunLAP, sounds like you have a somewhat complex problem... my brains a bit sleepy, i'm gonna shutdown for the night\
[01:43] <osfameron> oh, yeah
[01:43] <frogzoo> osfameron: it's a pet peeve
[01:43] <sri_> mwe, if we type sudo su we can enter into admin account;i want to open the folders for root users only{su}
[01:43] <ShaunLAP> OK.
[01:43] <sri_> mwe, sudo su &&   su   users are different.........
[01:44] <ShaunLAP> does anyone know how I can get into the gui from an expert livecd kernal doohickey?
[01:44] <sri_> mwe, u understand me..?
[01:44] <ShaunLAP> I'm staring at "ubuntu installer main menu".
[01:44] <osfameron> frogzoo: the thing is, I've been, for example,. receiving emails and stuff in the mean time. Nothing I necessarily want to backup (e.g. email is still on server) but it will affect an md5sum of the whole caboodle, so I have to think about the granularity
[01:45] <frogzoo> osfameron: just restore a decent sample sized chunk & diff -r
[01:45] <sri_> How to lock certain folders which is opened by 'su' user not sudo su user;is there any process except chmod cmd
[01:45] <sri_> plz tell about it
[01:45] <HBuzacott> sri_, no.
[01:45] <sri_> HBuzacott, it is impossible?
[01:45] <HBuzacott> sri_, they both have equal root privalages
[01:45] <jrib> sri_: can you give an example directory that doesn't work for you?
[01:46] <HBuzacott> sri_, so no
[01:46] <NthDegree> you can use sudo -i to get root privileges sri_
[01:46] <NthDegree> it will make you root
[01:46] <NthDegree> just like su
[01:47] <HBuzacott> NthDegree, I think he want a folder that he sould access through sudo but not su or visaversa
[01:47] <sri_> jrib, i have a folder on the desk top then i want to open the folder for root users only(SU)
[01:47] <HBuzacott> soulc = could
[01:47] <sri_> NthDegree, 1m
[01:47] <HBuzacott> damn. should = could
[01:47] <NthDegree> HBuzacott, sudo isn't the same as sudo -i - somethings dont work with sudo but only work with sudo -i or su
[01:48] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: In Gnome using 'nv', however for some reason, GDM would not start
[01:48] <HBuzacott> NthDegree, I know, but both carry the same folder root permisions
[01:48] <DarkMageZ> Shigun, something is definantly up with your system...
[01:48] <sri_> NthDegree, what is the diff between sudo su &&& sudo su -i;I did not realise any diff
[01:48] <jrib> sri_: users with sudo access have the same privileges as actually logging in with root, so that isn't possible
[01:48] <bigfoot1> I currently have only  UbuntuLinux installed on my computer.
[01:48] <bigfoot1> My Dell computer came with a CD-Rom with WinXp
[01:48] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: Recommendation on how I should go about fixing things?
[01:49] <bigfoot1> how do i install WinXP without deleting UBuntu?
[01:49] <NthDegree> sri_ you do sudo -i NOT sudo su
[01:49] <sri_> jrib, can we try by shell programming>>?
[01:49] <osfameron> frogzoo: will diff -r now work from local to USB drive?
[01:49] <HBuzacott> sri_, cd Desktop && chown root:root x && chmod 700 x
[01:49] <HBuzacott> where x is the folder
[01:49] <Shigun> bigfoot1: Partition some space off, and install on that space.  You will have to setup the bootloader again probably though
[01:49] <bigfoot1> Shigun: how do i partition?
[01:49] <DarkMageZ> Shigun, i'd search the filed bugs for similar issues, failing there... i'd start testing the hardware for defects
[01:49] <NthDegree> bigfoot1 you install XP on a separate partition to ubuntu then reinstall grub after installing XP
[01:50] <bigfoot1> NthDegree: ok. so first step is to make a partition
[01:50] <NthDegree> yes
[01:50] <ShaunLAP> Question: Where do I go from "Ubuntu Installer main menu" to get into a gui/full featured shell?
[01:50] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: Hardware is fine, as I can boot into other live cds and whatnot, with 0 issues.  This all started with Ubuntu
[01:50] <bigfoot1> so how do i make a seperate partition? (i'm a newbie)
[01:50] <sri_> HBuzacott, 1m i will try
[01:50] <HBuzacott> sri_, make that: && sudo chmod 700 x
[01:50] <NthDegree> ShaunLAP you using the "alternate" CD?
[01:50] <roshan_s> osfameron: May I ask what you're trying to do? It sounds interesting.
[01:50] <bigfoot1> NthDegree: Shigun and how much space should I give to this seperate partiiton?
[01:50] <ShaunLAP> NthDegree, I uh... let me see.
[01:51] <bigfoot1> NthDegree:  Shigun i've got a 40gig hard drive
[01:51] <osfameron> roshan_s: heh, I'm just trying to check that my backup via rsync worked
[01:51] <ShaunLAP> "ubuntu-5.10-live-powerpc.iso" is the ISO.
[01:51] <Shigun> bigfoot1: Depends on what you want to use this install of XP for.  Minimal, I would say 5gb
[01:51] <NthDegree> ShaunLAP that is old
[01:51] <elias_> how about power management in dapper. My CPU seems awfully slow!
[01:51] <NthDegree> the current version is 6.06 i believe
[01:51] <elias_> Centrino
[01:51] <NthDegree> elias_ the power management in dapper sucks
[01:51] <elias_> And speedstepping seems even slower!
[01:51] <ShaunLAP> Not going to kill me. How do I get into a gui/full shell?
[01:51] <DarkMageZ> Shigun, hmm, i'd search the bugs. then back-up my home directory and start with a clean system (mine gets dirty with all the excess repos). and see if i could replicate on a clean system
[01:51] <bigfoot1> Shigun: well, i'm about to give my pc to someone. and this someone probably has never used linux before
[01:52] <elias_> NthDegree: anything I can do about it?
[01:52] <HBuzacott> Anyone had any experience with compiling the brzcom driver? Damn thing isn't compiling. I keeping getting the error "cc1: error: ../include/linux/config.h: not a directory". [../ is the pcmcia source] .
[01:52] <NthDegree> it causes all my opengl games to crash (by monitor suspending after 15 seconds of the game loading)
[01:52] <roshan_s> osfameron: Using md5sum recursively?
[01:52] <NthDegree> elias_ disable the ACPI services
[01:52] <Shigun> bigfoot1: I would probably give them a 10-15GB partition, and go from there
[01:52] <bigfoot1> shimmmy_: but the thing with WindowsXP is, is that it's in Japanese
[01:52] <frogzoo> osfameron: as long as you can read from the USB disk, sure
[01:52] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: Alright, I will probably do that then.  Thank you
[01:52] <ShaunLAP> Since it's like a 600mb download, I'm guessing there's a lot of stuff that I'm not seeing.
[01:52] <osfameron> cool
[01:52] <bigfoot1> Shigun: after I install WinXP, can i change the partition size for WinXP and Ubuntu?
[01:53] <NthDegree> elias_ grab bum (sudo apt-get install bum)
[01:53] <bigfoot1> sizes?
[01:53] <elias_> NthDegree: something less intrusive? I would like to set the profile to performance when I am on ac power
[01:53] <NthDegree> then use that to disable ACPI
[01:53] <sri_> HBuzacott, i tried but it is opening for admin also
[01:53] <Shigun> bigfoot1: Possible, but I would not recommend it, as sometimes it causes issues
[01:53] <HBuzacott> sri_, what do mean 'admin'?
[01:53] <NthDegree> elias_ it isn't intrusive to remove ACPI altogether
[01:53] <NthDegree> 'admin' == root
[01:54] <bigfoot1> Shigun: oh
[01:54] <bigfoot1> Shigun: i wonder what i should do
[01:54] <frogzoo> bigfoot1: please don't use gparted for this - partition magic or something else
[01:54] <mathieu> hi, if i create a partition between hda1 and hda2, will that new partition become hda2 and the old hda2 become hda3?
[01:54] <HBuzacott> NthDegree, Ubuntu has an admin account which can use sudo which is NOT root
[01:54] <NthDegree> elias_ there isn't a normal way to set to a "performance" profile AFAIK, that you have to do manually
[01:54] <frogzoo> bigfoot1: oh, doze on ntfs or fat32 ?
[01:54] <sri_> HBuzacott, if we type sudo su;then we will enter into admins account not root 's account;to enter into root's account we have to type su
[01:54] <NthDegree> HBuzacott, sudo "Runs commands as root"
[01:54] <HBuzacott> NthDegree, I am just nt sure which he is talkign
[01:54] <bigfoot1> frogzoo: you're discouraging me from using gparted and partition magic?
[01:54] <elias_> Another thing I realized: Booting the 686 kernel takes forever! Between the decompressing kernel message and the first HDD access are about 90 seconds.
[01:54] <frogzoo> bigfoot1: which file system?
[01:55] <mathieu> frogzoo: why not gparted? i always did it that way
[01:55] <bigfoot1> frogzoo: i don't know. but i'm on ubuntu
[01:55] <HBuzacott> NthDegree, andf you must have permission to run sudo
[01:55] <NthDegree> HBuzacott, admin is a group not a user, and the admin group allows a user to run sudo
[01:55] <elias_> What is going on during these 90 seconds?
[01:55] <bigfoot1> frogzoo: how can i find out which file system i'm on
[01:55] <NthDegree> just like 'wheel' does on other distros
[01:55] <frogzoo> bigfoot1: which file system for doze - fat32 or ntfs?
[01:55] <NthDegree> ntfs
[01:55] <HBuzacott> sri_, but why are typing sudo su? Is there a reason
[01:55] <bigfoot1> frogzoo: oh, doze equals windows? i got it
[01:56] <bigfoot1> frogzoo: i don't know which FileSystem I should use for Windows
[01:56] <NthDegree> sri_ you don't put sudo su you put sudo -i to load into root on a terminal fully
[01:56] <bigfoot1> what do you guys recommend?
[01:56] <NthDegree> NTFS is better than FAT32
[01:56] <THISUBASA> somebody knows as I make for I configure the sound in ltsp4.2
[01:56] <NthDegree> NTFS journals
[01:56] <HBuzacott> HBuzacott, admin is different to root. 'sudo su' goes into root
[01:56] <NthDegree> and it has filesystem security superior to linux
[01:56] <ShaunLAP> Question: Where do I go from "Ubuntu Installer main menu" to get into a gui/full featured shell? 5.10-live-powerpc.
[01:56] <sri_> HBuzacott, what u type to enter into admin account??The passwords for sudo su And au are different But it is not set initially
[01:56] <NthDegree> dare i say
[01:56] <HBuzacott> NthDegree, depends on the system
[01:57] <frogzoo> bigfoot1: just don't use gparted to resize ntfs - but ntfs is much better than fat32 - so best solution is use ntfs, but resize with partition magic & defrag before resizing too
[01:57] <NthDegree> ShaunLAP, get ubuntu 6.06
[01:57] <THISUBASA> somebody knows as I make for I configure the sound in ltsp4.2
[01:57] <mathieu> frogzoo: why not resizing ntfs with parted?
[01:57] <HBuzacott> sri_, sudo will let you make system wide changes in the root account.
[01:57] <jrib> sri_: type 'whoami' after 'sudo su', then type 'whoami' after 'su', notice anything?
[01:57] <frogzoo> mathieu: cos ubuntu's gparted has a bug that can destroy your ntfs partition - causing total data loss
[01:57] <ShaunLAP> NthDegree, there's 600mb of shit sitting here, how do I get to it? I mean, "Get this" means an extra 600mb of download, and here in the dark ages that costs money.
[01:57] <sri_> jrib, 1m
[01:58] <NthDegree> you cannot rezise modern ext3 with PartitionMagic, it can if PartitionMagic has freshly made the ext3 partition but after putting Ubuntu onto it it can't resize anymore
[01:58] <J_P> hi all
[01:58] <mathieu> frogzoo: oh, it's specific to ubuntu? so using qparted on 'sysrescue cd' should be fine?
[01:58] <sri_> jrib, unknown id
[01:58] <THISUBASA> somebody knows as I make for I configure the sound in ltsp4.2
[01:58] <NthDegree> ShaunLAP, you should have got the 6.06 in the first place then lol
[01:58] <frogzoo> mathieu: v1 gparted has the bug - (what ubuntu uses) - - check the version of your live disk, v2 is ok
[01:58] <NthDegree> there is no GUI installer on 5.05 AFAIK
[01:58] <ShaunLAP> Does 6.06 have built in powerpc support?
[01:59] <sri_> jrib, i think it must be changed for the next vertion....
[01:59] <ShaunLAP> NthDegree, that's fine, how do I get access to a full fledged shell?
[01:59] <NthDegree> use expert setup
[01:59] <ShaunLAP> In it.
[01:59] <jrib> sri_: well here it says 'root' both times, because sudo is running things as root
[01:59] <NthDegree> it is on that menu below finish the installation
[01:59] <mathieu> frogzoo: you mean parted or gparted? gparted is just a gui for parted, right?
[01:59] <NthDegree> gparted is better
[02:00] <NthDegree> it is easier to use and does far more
[02:00] <NthDegree> you can resize my MB rather than cylinders etc.
[02:00] <frogzoo> mathieu: not sure, the bug is against gparted, so parted might be a solution
[02:00] <sri_> jrib, ya
[02:01] <mathieu> NthDegree: eh... gparted can only do what parted does. except for adding a gui
[02:01] <HBuzacott> sri. so you want to make a folder viewable to root and nobody else? right?
[02:02] <x3n> rsync is generally more efficient than both ftp and http, correct?
[02:02] <NthDegree> ShaunLAP, note that 6.06 has a better support for everything and supports powerpc AFAIK
[02:02] <sri_> HBuzacott, ya
[02:02] <NthDegree> and a live CD means you cannot install with it either
[02:02] <ShaunLAP> oKtosiTe, well this is gonna be fun.
[02:02] <NthDegree> it is exactly that live
[02:02] <ShaunLAP> Raaa.
[02:02] <THISUBASA> somebody knows as I make for I configure the sound in ltsp4.2
[02:03] <mjr> x3n, dunno about generally, but if you use it for syncing partially coinciding files, sure. And generally, at least it isn't noticably worse.
[02:03] <atsugnam> I've just got nvidia drivers working, but can't get higher than 800x600 res
[02:03] <atsugnam> also, there is a part of the screen not in use (RHS)
[02:03] <jrib> !fixres > atsugnam
[02:03] <HBuzacott> sri_, "cd Desktop && sudo chown root:root x && chmod 700 x" where x is the folder. Still don't fully understand what you want to do after that?
[02:03] <NthDegree> ShaunLAP, grab the ubuntu 6.06 powerpc desktop CD for a GUI install or the alternate CD for a text based install
[02:04] <ShaunLAP> What would you reccomend?
[02:04] <x3n> how about ftp vs. http?
[02:04] <RichEd> 'nother question: i have installed with a common fat32 partition that i will share between XP and Ubuntu - are there any user issues or security considerations i should be aware of ?
[02:04] <x3n> in terms of bandwidth usage
[02:04] <NthDegree> http is more reliable
[02:04] <NthDegree> ftp was made for files though
[02:04] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: I believe my issue to be the nvidia drivers, as I have yet to have a freeze now, doing what I normally do to cause the freeze (which, at the same time, seems completely unrelated to the nvidia drivers).  What would you recommend in the way of getting acceleration, without going through the Apt version?
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> x3n: no difference
[02:04] <sri_> HBuzacott, but it is openning for admin user
[02:05] <frogzoo> RichEd: for single user setup, this is fine
[02:05] <x3n> alright, thanks guys
[02:05] <HBuzacott> sri_, what do you mean by admin user
[02:05] <HBuzacott> ?
[02:05] <DarkMageZ> Shigun, nvidia should have install instructions on their site
[02:05] <bigfoot1> oh, guys, the CD-rom that came with my pc... how do i know if it will let me install just the WinXP os? Don't other CD-roms that come with computers force you to install not just the Windows OS, but other stuff fromt he computer company?
[02:05] <frogzoo> RichEd: however, you might do better using ext3 & the doze ext2 driver...
[02:05] <sri_> HBuzacott, if u type sudo su then ........
[02:05] <NthDegree> HBuzacott, Windows Administrator == Linux Root
[02:05] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: I believe I tried installing from the nvidia version before, and had an issue.  I shall try again though, thank you
[02:06] <HBuzacott> NthDegre, what are talking about?
[02:06] <sri_> HBuzacott, i think root user is power ful
[02:06] <NthDegree> sri_ I HAVE TOLD YOU SEVERAL TIMES, DONT USE SUDO SU
[02:06] <sri_> NthDegree, why??
[02:06] <NthDegree> sri_ try typing sudo -i in a terminal
[02:06] <frogzoo> bigfoot1: typically you'll get all the other stuff & no choice
[02:06] <lilg> Hi is it possible to create dir's in lots of people's directories?
[02:06] <NthDegree> you will become root
[02:06] <HBuzacott> sri_, that is the same as typeing sudo -i *
[02:06] <sri_> NthDegree, difference?
[02:06] <NthDegree> none
[02:06] <hyperstream> how can i stop cpu step freq thing. in cedega with battlefield it runs the game at 2x the normal speed
[02:06] <NthDegree> except sudo su is incorrect
[02:06] <RichEd> frogzoo: tx for info ... any special comments about - " using ext3 & the doze ext2 driver "
[02:06] <lilg> something like mkdir /home/*/test
[02:06] <sri_> NthDegree, there is no diff
[02:06] <bigfoot1> my pc is a dell
[02:06] <NthDegree> big difference sudo su is incorrect
[02:07] <bigfoot1> dell gx
[02:07] <NthDegree> hence if you have problems it is because you aren't using the correct commands
[02:07] <snorre> How do I load the SCSI module?  sudo insmod scsi_mod doesn't work (insmod: can't read 'scsi_mod': No such file or directory) ???
[02:07] <HBuzacott> Anyone had any experience with compiling the brzcom driver? Damn thing isn't compiling. I keeping getting the error "cc1: error: ../include/linux/config.h: not a directory". [../ is the pcmcia source] .
[02:07] <NthDegree> modprobe
[02:07] <NthDegree> you use modprobe
[02:07] <bigfoot1> So, if the CD-Rom is as you said (no choice but to install all other stuff), would I still be able to keep Linux on the harddrive, or will it force me to format the harddrive?
[02:07] <mathieu> NthDegree: well, sudo su -  (mind the hyphen) should behave the same as sudo -i
[02:08] <mjr> lilg, something like for dir in /home/* ; do mkdir $dir/test ; done (but that'll leave the dirs in root ownership, script some more if you want rid of that)
[02:08] <NthDegree> mathieu, yes but su wasn't designed with running sudo behind it
[02:08] <sri_> NthDegree, what is mod proe?
[02:08] <frogzoo> RichEd: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[02:08] <NthDegree> modprobe loads a module into the running kernel
[02:08] <snorre> Anyone?
[02:08] <mathieu> NthDegree: indeed, but it doesn't make it incorrect. just stupid
[02:08] <hyperstream> how can i stop cpu step freq thing. in cedega with battlefield it runs the game at 2x the normal speed
[02:08] <RichEd> shot :) i will rtfurl
[02:09] <sri_> mjr, nice idea i wll chek it
[02:09] <snorre> NthDegree: Do you know how to load the scsi module then?
[02:09] <NthDegree> mathieu, it is incorrect because sudo -i loads every single root environment variable properly, sudo su may not
[02:09] <frogzoo> hyperstream: do you have cpufreq in your task bar? you can make it suid, & then clamp the freq from the  taskbar
[02:09] <NthDegree> modprobe scsi_mod
[02:09] <NthDegree> if scsi_mod is a module
[02:09] <can-o-worms> snorre: modprobe
[02:09] <mathieu> NthDegree: sudo su - does
[02:09] <hyperstream> frogzoo, huh ?
[02:09] <hyperstream> suid?
[02:10] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: I just finished installing the nvidia released version, but I ask; how exactly am I to be sure that I am using the nvidia version, and not the restricted modules version?
[02:10] <NthDegree> hyperstream, disable ACPI services and cpufreq services using bum
[02:10] <NthDegree> sudo apt-get install bum
[02:10] <NthDegree> then use that to do it
[02:10] <can-o-worms> can someone tell me how to stop a service from being started at boot
[02:10] <hyperstream> there is another way a much simpler way
[02:10] <hyperstream> ive done it before hand
[02:11] <hyperstream> ive just reinstalled and ive forgotten
[02:11] <NthDegree> bum is the easiest way
[02:11] <Shigun> DarkMageZ: Also, even though I have installed the needed drivers, I no longer have direct rendering
[02:11] <ojai> anyone know if there's a list of all the patches applied to the dapper kernel?
[02:11] <NthDegree> it is via the GUI and with nice checkboxes
[02:11] <hyperstream> heh. thanks
[02:11] <NthDegree> bum = boot-up manager
[02:11] <jdmpike> holy cow this is a huge channel!
[02:11] <hyperstream> hehe*
[02:11] <jdmpike> 777 nicks!
[02:11] <NthDegree> luck day today :)
[02:11] <Sir_Fawnpug> This is OT, but I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions for a good monitor. I just woke up to relays in need of prozac.
[02:11] <NthDegree> lol
[02:11] <isede> how to stop mysqld manually? something like "service mysqld stop" ...
[02:11] <jdmpike> how difficult would it be to setup a 686 repository?
[02:12] <bigfoot1> ok. i sent the new owner of the PC whether she'd like WinXP, UBuntuLinux, or both installed.
[02:12] <Shigun> isede: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[02:12] <bigfoot1> I'll wait for her response and let you know. Her answer will determine what I do with the computer.
[02:12] <someothernick> !waste
[02:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about waste - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:12] <isede> shigun: is there a way yo list all running srvices?
[02:12] <THISUBASA> I am Brazilian I would like it to place sound in ltsp4.2
[02:12] <ojai> dapper kernel patches -- anyone?  anyone?
[02:13] <NthDegree> bigfoot1 then install XP 1st on a small 10GB partition and after that then install ubuntu on the 30GB partition
[02:13] <jdmpike> there are so many people running ubuntu on 686, it would be great to see a repository created that had all 686 optimized packages on it
[02:13] <Shigun> isede: I'
[02:13] <NthDegree> very easy if you don't mess up
[02:13] <Shigun> isede: I'm sure there is, but I do not know how
[02:13] <bigfoot1> NthDegree: but what if she (the person I'm giving the pc to) will be using XP more than Ubuntu?+
[02:13] <NthDegree> jdmpike, hmmmmmmm maybe try the wiki
[02:13] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:13] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: for TFT monitors anything LG , reasonable price great image quality, at least is my experience
[02:14] <isede> shigun: something like services -a would be nice
[02:14] <bigfoot1> NthDegree: will it be easy to add size to the XP partitiion after the install?
[02:14] <NthDegree> bigfoot1, XP can compress files
[02:14] <NthDegree> you can compress the whole drive to save a lot of space
[02:14] <jdmpike> NthDegree, which wiki?
[02:14] <NthDegree> wiki.ubuntu.com maybe try that
[02:15] <Sir_Fawnpug> rpedro, I was considering a TFT monitor, what is LG? I was considering KDS too, they made my last monitor and it lasted me 8 years.
[02:15] <frogzoo> jdmpike: it's a nice idea - but it's the core stuff that would really benefit, & you can't easily reinstall gnome
[02:15] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm going to have to give it a proper burial (my landlord will really like that)
[02:15] <bigfoot1> NthDegree: how is that fact relevant
[02:15] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:15] <someothernick> anyone know how to install waste?
[02:15] <snorre> NthDegree: Thanks, do you know where the modules are located if I need to load a custom one?
[02:15] <someothernick> or know where there is a guide?
[02:15] <jdmpike> frogzoo: yeah, I would like to see a 686 version of gnome/xfce/kde, etc
[02:16] <NthDegree> snorre, not 100% sure, maybe try looking in /usr/include I am not sure
[02:16] <NthDegree> bigfoot1, because 10GB should be enough
[02:16] <frogzoo> jdmpike: not sure how well uninstalling gnome 386 & reinstalling 686 will work
[02:17] <frogzoo> jdmpike: but if it works, I'm there
[02:17] <NthDegree> if she uses XP a LOT more than ubuntu then you can delete ubuntu and grow the XP partition with partitionmagic
[02:17] <Sir_Fawnpug> rpedro, are dead pixels a big issue with LG?
[02:17] <jdmpike> frogzoo, it would work, very similar to an apt-build world
[02:18] <bigfoot1> NthDegree " Xp can compress files" <--- do you mean something like Zip?
[02:18] <bigfoot1> like zip files?
[02:18] <NthDegree> no
[02:18] <bigfoot1> defrag?
[02:18] <NthDegree> it has compression where you can run the files too
[02:18] <NthDegree> NO
[02:18] <NthDegree> compression != archiving
[02:18] <THISUBASA> bando de filho da me
[02:18] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: depends on what you want to do at the pc for which you need the monitor, you could just buy the cheapest brand, if you just use it for text , and say an ocasional movie , you won't notice much difference. not so for games, gfx editing etc. , as for the durability what usually happens is the backlight gets weaker, but you can ususally replace it, you can maybe do it yourself even
[02:19] <bigfoot1> what does != mean? "does not equal"?
[02:19] <NthDegree> yes
[02:19] <NthDegree> all you do is right click on drive C then on properties choose compress this drive to save disk space
[02:19] <NthDegree> it is an NTFS specific thing
[02:19] <bigfoot1> what are the downsides to compressing a dirve?
[02:19] <bigfoot1> slower speed?
[02:19] <THISUBASA> [K12OSN]  SATA 2 in RedHat Fedora 4 ltsp 4.4.1
[02:19] <bigfoot1> when running files+
[02:19] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:19] <NthDegree> slower performance by about a split second
[02:19] <Kgentux> How many of your are on Edgy?
[02:19] <Kgentux> *you
[02:19] <bigfoot1> so no real downside, eh?
[02:20] <NthDegree> Kgentux Edgy is not really stable yet
[02:20] <NthDegree> no downside really
[02:20] <Kgentux> I am on Edgy : I want someone to confirm a bug for me
[02:20] <bigfoot1> ok, so my friend seems to be game to try ubuntu
[02:20] <NthDegree> on rare occasions some apps may not like compression but you can remove compression from specific files by going on their properties
[02:20] <Sir_Fawnpug> rpedro, well I won't be taxing the monitor too hard, I'm  probably just going to be doing alot of programming, but I want to play games on it (which is what has kept me from buying a TFT display for a long time)
[02:21] <bigfoot1> my friend doesn't know much about computers, so i don't know if she'll be compressing files
[02:21] <nikusan> Kgentux, #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <Zuky> hello
[02:21] <frogzoo> Kgentux: edgy -> #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <WB|Pascal> hi
[02:22] <WB|Pascal> i've a porblem
[02:22] <Kgentux> Yes I am there now
[02:22] <Zuky> i have 2 problems :)
[02:22] <WB|Pascal> i installed kubuntu 6.06 on a compaq nx8220
[02:22] <Skaag> hello guys :-)
[02:22] <NthDegree> bigfoot1 it is easy, just right click > properties and then you can compress the entire drive
[02:22] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: one sec...
[02:22] <xiaou> well lets hear the problems
[02:22] <WB|Pascal> i installed the ATI Linux drivers
[02:22] <bigfoot1> ok. so say i want to make a 10 gig partion for win XP (on a hard drive with a total capacity of 40gigs). what should i do now+
[02:22] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:22] <WB|Pascal> but i'm unable to get a resoution of 1600x1200
[02:22] <NthDegree> for individual files it is still on properties but not as visible
[02:22] <NthDegree> it is easy as pie to do
[02:23] <Skaag> question to the designers of you... there's gimp, then gimp-shop, and there's a new one I heard about but forgot the name...anyone remembers?
[02:23] <xiaou> WB: did you edit your xorg config?
[02:23] <deep__> How can i get ubuntu to boot into console, and not the default loginscreen?
[02:23] <NthDegree> meh, so many linux users who have never even used the good windows features lol (so few of good windows features though :p)
[02:23] <frogzoo> Skaag: how does gimp-shop compare to gimp?
[02:23] <xiaou> deep: sudo telinit 3 should do it
[02:24] <frogzoo> xiaou: guess again
[02:24] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: check this model if you can >> http://pt.lge.com/prodmodeldetail.do?catModel=3&actType=&modelName=&currentPage=&categoryId=040102&parentId=0401&modelCategoryId=040102&modelCodeDisplay=L1717S#
[02:24] <atsugnam> nrrgh, getting wierd effect: Got nvidia drivers on, GDM comes up fine, but once I login it goes to hell...
[02:24] <xiaou> ah well
[02:24] <frogzoo> deep__: you need to rename/delete /etc/init.d/gdm
[02:24] <deep__> xiaou: But i want to make it boot into console every time i boot. I know theres a file somewhere you can change,
[02:24] <jdmpike> alright, I am rethinking my post about a 686 repo... it is not a good idea
[02:24] <deep__> frogzoo: ill try that
[02:25] <Sir_Fawnpug> rpedro, I'm about to look at that link. Thank you for all of your help, it kind of pisses me off that I just got my gentoo installation going and all I can do for the time being is ssh into it.
[02:25] <frogzoo> deep__: really you want to delete the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/
[02:25] <Sir_Fawnpug> Maybe xdmcp if I go back and change my resolution in xorg.
[02:25] <linrunix> buenas
[02:25] <frogzoo> jdmpike: why's it a bad idea?
[02:26] <Zuky> I have installed Ubuntu 6.06 and i have 2 problems: the internet is partially accessible and i need the livecd with the "boot debug" command on to make it work... otherwise it does not boot at all
[02:26] <jdmpike> frogzoo, lots of effort that could be spent improving linux for all for a marginal benefit of a few
[02:26] <deep__> frogzoo: Err. Once before i edited some file that said like "boot: gdm" to "boot: console", and then i could make an .xinitrc-file and start with startx
[02:26] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: I play CSS regularly on it , and it compares very well (It's better in my opinion) to a crt at 85hz, it has 8ms response time, but you can't really compare it to other models on this specifications, as you might know each vendor has 'different' ways of measuring this
[02:26] <jdmpike> frogzoo, although - swiftfox is much much faster than firefox
[02:27] <deep__> frogzoo: You know where that is?
[02:27] <frogzoo> deep__: ubuntu's different from redhat/suse/whatever
[02:27] <jdmpike> I would think that running everything optimized would be speedier too
[02:27] <RichEd> newbie question: can i mount a partition under two different names ? i.e. can i mount the filesystem under / as well as under /media/Ubuntu
[02:27] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: oh and yes colors/contrast are great
[02:28] <Sir_Fawnpug> rpedro, I'll check the reviews on it.  250 cd isn't too bad on the brightness is it?
[02:28] <deep__> frogzoo: Mabie that was in suse. Can i do something in the same way in ubuntu?
[02:28] <frogzoo> jdmpike: it's apparently quite a boost to gnome - which would be nice - & who runs gnome on a 486 anyhow???
[02:28] <xiaou> Rich: why not mount it under one and creat ea link for the second?
[02:28] <deep__> frogzoo: As in that "startx"-way
[02:28] <frogzoo> deep__: just delete/rename the gdm symlink in /etc/rc2.d/
[02:29] <dooglus> RichEd: yes. sudo mount -o bind /existing/path /new/mount/point
[02:29] <easyu> Hello, what is the latest consensus about easyubuntu and its alternatives ?
[02:29] <deep__> frogzoo: Then i can fix a .xinitrc-file and start via console?
[02:29] <Sir_Fawnpug> rpedro, I will definately keep this one in mind.
[02:29] <jdmpike> frogzoo, hmmm - I wish I knew how to do that better in debian based 'nixes
[02:29] <RichEd> xiaou: that may make sense I'm not sure - background I have Edubuntu & Ubuntu & Kubuntu all installed as boot systems on their own partitions ... I wanted to have a consistent desktop icon view for all across all desktops
[02:29] <Sir_Fawnpug> The price on newegg isn't too bad, about $200
[02:30] <dooglus> RichEd: *don't* mount anything into /tmp permanently, or it will be deleted next time you boot
[02:30] <RichEd> dooglus: how would i include that in fstab ?
[02:31] <RichEd> (tx for the warning)
[02:31] <lilg> mjr: how do you mean script some more? how do i c
[02:31] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: there are monitors with more (300cd or even more than 400) and the contrast some go up to 700 , but you can't really compare it just by those numbers, I had another monitor by that had 450cd and 700 contrast but it really didn't compare in terms of image definition , and it just hurt my eyes by how bright it was no matter how much I tweaked the setting, I just sent it back for a replacement for another monitor
[02:31] <RichEd> i.e. mount / (of Ubuntu) against the folder /media/Ubuntu
[02:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> rpedro, ahh
[02:32] <RichEd> (excuse the hazy language)
[02:32] <lilg> mjr: how would i go about scripting that, to have directories with there correct ownerships
[02:32] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: that said, you should allways check the image quality at the shop where you intend to buy
[02:32] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: dead pixels, and all that...
[02:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> rpedro, so I should definately not order off of newegg?
[02:33] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: for a tft monitor, I wouldn't
[02:33] <dooglus> RichEd: don't mount the whole of / either.  there's a bug in ubuntu which results in / not being umounted when you shut down if you do.
[02:34] <dooglus> RichEd: I use this line in /etc/fstab: "/boot             /mnt/ubuntu/mnt/debian/boot none    bind            0       0"
[02:34] <Sir_Fawnpug> rpedro, I see. Well maybe circuit city/best buy will carry these monitors.
[02:34] <someothernick> !plf
[02:34] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[02:34] <dooglus> RichEd: you can mount just parts of a partition, you see.  /boot isn't a separate partition for me, just a subdirectory of/
[02:35] <bigfoot1> AFter making a partition for WinXP, and I insert the Dell/Win XP Recovery CD into the Cd-rom drive, and it asks me (or forces me) to delete everything, will it keep the UBuntu Linux partition untouched?
[02:35] <RichEd> dooglus: digesting what you said ... still coming to grips with new concepts ...
[02:36] <kalila> bigfoot1: that depends, my advent recovery cd didn't wipe out linux, my tohiba laptop's did
[02:36] <jdmpike> how do you change windows in irrsi?
[02:36] <kalila> alt + window number
[02:36] <bigfoot1> kalila: so how can i confirm?
[02:36] <ThunderStruck> jdmpike: ctrl+p for back ctrl+n for foward
[02:36] <kalila> or if you have more than 10, /window windownumber, eg /window 5
[02:36] <rpedro> Sir_Fawnpug: check with the shop if they give a different warranty on dead pixels which might develop with usage, different shops have different conditions for this, it's not allways just up to the manufacturer, also I've spoted some mid-priced monitors that are now starting to have a zero bright dot policy (zbd) but not many yet ,
[02:36] <dooglus> RichEd: it's called a 'bind mount' - it makes a directory appear somewhere else in the filesystem as if it was a separate mount
[02:37] <selinium_> Does anyone know how to do X11 forwarding with Putty?
[02:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> rpedro, I will continue to do my research on this. I'm glad I have at least my laptop
[02:37] <frogzoo> easyu: imo, the easyubuntu options etc. just delay the learning process, the apparent time won is an illusion
[02:37] <jdmpike> is there an #ubuntu64 channel for 64 bit users?
[02:37] <maddy> selinium, i think what u need is nx no machine
[02:38] <maddy> :)
[02:38] <ompaul> jdmpike, this is it,
[02:38] <easyu> Can i have an ATI and an Nvidia card with proprietary drivers on the same computer ?
[02:38] <frogzoo> jdmpike: /number
[02:38] <frogzoo> easyu: yuppers
[02:38] <ompaul> jdmpike, we divide channels  by task not arch type
[02:38] <jdmpike> selinium_: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/VNC/vnc-over-ssh.html
[02:39] <jdmpike> ompaul, k thanks
[02:39] <easyu> frogzoo, i tried to learn how to setup linux for weeks and made basically no progress during the last two years.
[02:39] <selinium> maddy: I have played with nx but I am having problems with it from the work (windoze) machine.
[02:39] <jdmpike> ompaul, so ubuntu is a different task than xubuntu?
[02:39] <frogzoo> !docs > easyu
[02:39] <selinium> Hi ompaul
[02:39] <ompaul> jdmpike, it is,
[02:40] <jdmpike> ompaul, same goal though :)
[02:40] <maddy> selinium, then i have no clue :)
[02:40] <ompaul> jdmpike, all hundred plus channels have the same goal :)
[02:40] <frogzoo> easyu: then maybe the easyubuntu route's what you need to get a usable system to work on
[02:40] <ompaul> selinium, hi there
[02:40] <p0seidon> Hi
[02:40] <asdf25> i just put in another 2GB of RAM for a total of 4GB, and my bios recognizes it, but top only shows 2GB. anyone know why?
[02:40] <easyu> thank you frogzoo.
[02:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm still heavily considering a CRT monitor but I am uncertain about that since I am limited of space.
[02:40] <jdmpike> selinium, I googled ssh tunneling yesterday, found loads on how to do it
[02:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> asdf25, do you have >2GB of RAM enabled in the kernel?
[02:41] <frogzoo> easyu: trouble is, with easyubuntu if you run into probs, it's usually harder to fix
[02:41] <bigfoot1> kalila: is it because the CDs you used were different?
[02:41] <asdf25> dmesg says: [4294667.296000]  3200MB HIGHMEM available. [4294667.296000]  896MB LOWMEM available.
[02:41] <dooglus> RichEd: one of the bugs I mentioned is https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/29187 ; can't find the other
[02:41] <ompaul> Sir_Fawnpug, they are heaters if you can spring the extra cash they can help with keeping the heat down
[02:41] <asdf25> Sir_Fawnpug: maybe not, is there a kernel boot option?
[02:41] <selinium> jdmpike: Cheers! :)
[02:41] <jdmpike> ompaul, there are 100+ ubuntu channels!
[02:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> asdf25, yeah, it's under processor settings I think.
[02:41] <ompaul> jdmpike, when I last looked yes
[02:41] <jdmpike> selenium, did that get you what you needed?
[02:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> OR architecture settings or whatever under make menuconfig.
[02:41] <p0seidon> out of interest
[02:42] <asdf25> hm ok thanks
[02:42] <jdmpike> ompaul, holy moly! different languages and stuff?
[02:42] <dooglus> RichEd: the other is here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/32388 ; I couldn't find it because it was rejected.
[02:42] <kalila> bigfoot1: hmm, my advent CD was Norton Ghost image, it didn't wipe all partitions
[02:42] <RichEd> dooglus: ping <- can I do a mutli-line paste in a private window
[02:42] <easyu> frogzoo, i do not have the permission to write to a partition that was included during the install ...
[02:43] <kalila> I forgot what my toshiba cd was
[02:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> ompaul, I might try the lcd then, since an ultrasparcIIi and an athlon64 do enough to heat my house... during the summer.
[02:43] <dooglus> RichEd: sure, if you're registeed
[02:43] <dooglus> registered
[02:43] <frogzoo> easyu: if you can't write to it - leave it alone, it's not hurting you
[02:43] <RichEd> sure am :)
[02:43] <easyu> it is sda4, sata
[02:43] <bigfoot1> kalila: what about for your toshiba laptop?
[02:43] <kalila> bigfoot1: can't remember
[02:43] <ompaul> jdmpike, yes,  your looking at, langauges, stages of development, documentation, classroom and sub projects, the wiki has over 12000 pages in it
[02:43] <bigfoot1> the cd-rom i have is the Recovery Disk that comes with the Computer, from the manufacturer
[02:43] <easyu> it is the main partition for my data, frogzoo.
[02:43] <bigfoot1> dell
[02:44] <ompaul> jdmpike, there are lots of very busy people around
[02:44] <ompaul> Sir_Fawnpug, that would be a good idea
[02:44] <jdmpike> I friggin love ubuntu
[02:44] <frogzoo> easyu: what's the path?
[02:44] <bigfoot1> AFter making a partition for WinXP, and I insert the official Recovery CD (not a ghost image, or any cd that I've made)  into the Cd-rom drive, and it asks me (or forces me) to delete everything, will it keep the UBuntu Linux partition untouched?
[02:44] <mezzrricki> I need a little bit of help
[02:44] <easyu>  /media/sda4/
[02:45] <mezzrricki> I think I've removed myself from the admin group.
[02:45] <frogzoo> easyu: & you can't write to it ? o.O ???
[02:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> bigfoot1, what I usually do is install partition, leave space for ubunut and install windows, because windows wants to kill grub.
[02:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> But it shouldn't delete the ubunut partition.
[02:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> or partitions, rather.
[02:45] <frogzoo> easyu: ls -ld /media/sda4
[02:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> Not unless you tell it to.
[02:45] <elias_> which kernel to use on a centrino laptop?
[02:46] <frogzoo> elias_: 686
[02:46] <ompaul> mezzrricki, that was not clever, have you a live CD handy, it is the easiest way to do this in a semi comfortable way (i.e. with a gui)
[02:46] <elias_> pre dual core
[02:46] <easyu> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-07-18 22:59 /media/sda4
[02:46] <elias_> frogzoo: the 686 kernel does weird things on my machine!
[02:46] <mezzrricki> I can do terminal. I'm just not sure which group I need to put myself back into
[02:46] <frogzoo> easyu: chown easyu:easyu /dev/sda4
[02:47] <bigfoot1> Sir_Fawnpug: i'm tyring to understand what you're saying.
[02:47] <elias_> frogzoo: there is a 90 seconds delay between decompressing kernel image message and first HDD access and ALSA does not work somehow!
[02:47] <frogzoo> elias_: ummm... & 386 doesn't?
[02:47] <bigfoot1> Sir_Fawnpug how is that different from what kalila did
[02:47] <elias_> no 386 works perfectly
[02:47] <frogzoo> elias_: oh, that's a bug - toshiba lappie?
[02:47] <bigfoot1> Sir_Fawnpug: kalila had his toshiba laptop's ubuntu partition erased when he put in WinXP.
[02:47] <atsugnam> ack, can get gdm display to work fine, but when I try to log in, it goes all wack
[02:47] <truz_`24> what was the new kernel fix for?
[02:48] <bigfoot1> Sir_Fawnpug: let me ask you this question, to understand what you're saying: so if that's what you do, what do you discourage me to do?
[02:48] <kalila> bigfoot1: I haven;t had a parition there, i just knew it did, it's an old laptop, so they might have changed things
[02:48] <atsugnam> run through as many nvidia and screen res pages as I can find, has anyone else had any luck with toshiba 420Go chipsets and nvidia driver?
[02:48] <elias_> frogzoo: even speedstepping is incredibly slow on 686. (Vaio VGN-S560P)
[02:48] <kintaro> hi guys..whats the difference of xen and vmware?
[02:49] <bigfoot1> Sir_Fawnpug: in other words, what should I not do if i want to keep my ubuntu partition?
[02:49] <bigfoot1> kalila: you just knew it did what?
[02:49] <atsugnam> bigfoot1, the toshiba recovery disks use symantec ghost, and it nukes any partitions on the drive
[02:49] <elias_> frogzoo: anything I can do?
[02:49] <bigfoot1> atsugnam: i see
[02:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> bigfoot1, the reason I install windows first is because you have to go back with a livecd and chroot into your system and run grub.
[02:49] <frogzoo> elias_: there's a bug in launchpad about this - apparently a bios setting can fix it, but the sony bios is crap so I"m assuming you'll just need to stick to 386 till it's fixed in kernel
[02:50] <easyu> frogzoo, i did: sudo chown easyu:easyu /dev/sda4, but that did not change anything.
[02:50] <bigfoot1> Sir_Fawnpug: but i don' think i can do that, can i? You see, I already have Ubuntu installed
[02:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> atsugnam, oh, wow, yeah, that's not good. I thought he was doing a "vanilla" install of windows.
[02:50] <frogzoo> easyu: are you logged in as easyu ?
[02:50] <bigfoot1> atsugnam: so in my case, I've got Dell.
[02:50] <bilss_> hi
[02:50] <atsugnam> has anyone in here had any luck with nvidia 420Go video cards and the nvidia drivers?
[02:50] <elias_> frogzoo: yes, Vaio BIOS sucks! Vaio sucks all together! Would never buy one again!
[02:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> bigfoot1, sure you can, you can chroot into any complete system.
[02:50] <bigfoot1> do you know if Dell Recovery CD's will nuke any other partitions?
[02:50] <atsugnam> no idea
[02:50] <bilss_> frogzoo: hows wine install doing
[02:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> bigfoot1, I'm not sure honestly.
[02:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> I haven't bought an OEM computer in a long time.
[02:51] <bigfoot1> i'm scared
[02:51] <atsugnam> but, likely to do so as most recovery disks use disk images (faster than a whole install
[02:51] <deep__> Hun
[02:51] <frogzoo> elias_: I've got a vaio & I like it - just wish I could boot from usb/pcmcia but I'm happy otherwise
[02:51] <deep__> hum**
[02:51] <deep__> Hi
[02:51] <deep__> :)
[02:51] <bigfoot1> and this is even if UBuntu is on its own partition?
[02:51] <frogzoo> bilss_: cryptic? how do you mean?
[02:51] <bigfoot1> maybe I should just leave Win Xp out.
[02:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> bigfoot1, if it's on the same harddrive probably. That's why I don't like those ghost CDs
[02:52] <K-J158> bonjour
[02:52] <atsugnam> yes, the image tools nuke partitions by default (auto setup to do it)
[02:52] <bilss_> frogzoo; saw you in thr wine chat about a week ago maybe more
[02:52] <bigfoot1> Sir_Fawnpug: i wish there was a way that i could tell whether the CD-rom that I have (from Dell) will nuke or not.
[02:52] <b1shop> i had an entry in fstab for an ntfs data drive.  i reformatted it vfat, not fstab won't mount it
[02:52] <easyu> yes, logged in as user, frogzoo.
[02:52] <K-J158> hem
[02:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> Why they just can't do something like tar.bz2 and unroll into the filesystem.
[02:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> bigfoot1, well in that case, if it probably says it'll delete everything, believe it.
[02:52] <frogzoo> easyu: ls -ld /media/sda4
[02:53] <K-J158> i would like that aMsn can shows the arabic characters... which font i've to use ?
[02:53] <bob_> hello, could anyone help me with setting up my mic on SB Live?
[02:54] <easyu> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-07-18 22:59 /media/sda4, maybe /media needs to update from /dev ?
[02:54] <Lynoure> bob_: si there some special things about sb live? Usually just unmute mike from the mixer, maybe set on mike boost and plug mike in.
[02:54] <lassegs> b1shop: you should change "ntfs" to "vfat"
[02:54] <frogzoo> easyu: thought you chowned it to easyu ?
[02:54] <lassegs> b1shop: in fstab that is
[02:54] <bigfoot1> ok, Sir_Fawnpug. i think i'll play safe. When I give the PC to its new owner, I'll just hand the WinXP Cd to her, but not install it. She can install it if she wants/dares. I'll leave my comp with Ubuntu Os, as it is now.
[02:54] <bob_> the thing is i don't have "mic" in the channels at all
[02:54] <bigfoot1> So next question:
[02:54] <bilss_> ok here we go got postfix going with tls no pop hot to connect to thunderbird mail client  place fqdn i n incoming and outgoing mail but no jot potfix local network 127.0.0.1/8
[02:55] <bob_> an the input tab is missing in kmixer
[02:55] <easyu> my username is hope, frogzoo.
[02:55] <b1shop> lassegs, did that.  then mount -a.  still gives errors
[02:55] <Lynoure> bob_: what if you run   alsamixer   from the command line?
[02:55] <bigfoot1> how do i set the UBuntu PC for its new owner. 1) having ubuntu ask for password
[02:55] <lassegs> b1shop: whats the errors?
[02:55] <bigfoot1> for her password
[02:55] <bilss_> DBO: its mountain green today tate really good
[02:55] <frogzoo> easyu: chown hope:hope /dev/sda4
[02:55] <Compaq>  '<
[02:55] <easyu> i did that, frogzoo.
[02:55] <Jesus> Someone in here (fyrestrtr) told me to run $ xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.se, to fix one of my keyboard problems, and now I got more problems... I can't change tty (i.e. Ctrl+Alt+FX doesn't work), and I cant write right paranthesises.
[02:55] <b1shop> lassegs, unknown fstab entry
[02:55] <kintaro> hi guys..whats the difference of xen and vmware
[02:55] <bigfoot1>  '<
[02:55] <frogzoo> easyu: sudo chown hope:hope /dev/sda4          (soz)
[02:56] <easyu> but with sudo.
[02:56] <easyu> yes, that is what i did.
[02:56] <lassegs> b1shop: i think it should look like this
[02:56] <bob_> Lynoure: i don't have mic level in alsamixer as well
[02:57] <lassegs> b1shop:  /dev/hda1 /mnt/fat/ vfat chmod=000 0 0
[02:57] <bilss_> xen is the much the same as vmware but its for virtualization of linux os at the moment good howto for both vmware and xen at www.howtoforge.com
[02:57] <Jesus> Someone in here (fyrestrtr) told me to run $ xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.se, to fix one of my keyboard problems, and now I got more problems... I can't change tty (i.e. Ctrl+Alt+FX doesn't work), and I cant write right paranthesises. Help?
[02:57] <frogzoo> easyu: unmount the drive, unplug it & plug it back in again....
[02:57] <bilss_> kintaro: see the answer
[02:57] <bob_> Lynoure: and whatever capture channel i choose it says L R CAPTURE in red
[02:57] <elias_> frogzoo: I ran into so much bullshit with mine. The rescue CD drama, the fact that the Vaio software did not want to recognize my machine as vaio anymore, just because I changed the partition table, the display died and you can't imagine how much bulshit I had to go through to get it fixed in canada just because I bought it in the US, ... no bios updates because not recognized as vaio, ...
[02:58] <easyu> frogzoo, sda1 is /
[02:58] <b1shop> lassegs, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5
[02:58] <elias_> frogzoo: anyhow, do you know the but number in launchpad?
[02:58] <kintaro> bilss_..hhmmm..thanks..
[02:58] <tuxtheslacker> what are the save and exit keys in vi?
[02:59] <kindor> tux: :wq!
[02:59] <frogzoo> elias_: it's a sony...
[02:59] <Lynoure> bob_: Then fixing this would take more time/concentration than I have at the moment. Sorry. :/
[02:59] <lassegs> b1shop: sure its a fat partition?
[02:59] <bob_> Lynoure: ok i see
[03:00] <b1shop> lassegs,  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /media/Data mounts it.  i just can't get fstab to work
[03:00] <easyu> i will try with a restart now, frogzoo, thank you.
[03:00] <bob_> anyone else have time to help me fix my mic on kubuntu?
[03:00] <frogzoo> easyu: so what's sda4 doing mounted at /media ?  methinks you should mount this somewhere other than /media
[03:00] <lassegs> b1shop: ok, i dont know whats wrong. gottago. good luck!
[03:00] <easyu> frogzoo, should i change it in fstab ?
[03:01] <easyu> i never understood that buggy /media circus ...
[03:02] <b1shop> got it
[03:03] <b1shop> next questions.  what;s that grab entry to remember last booted OS?
[03:03] <b1shop> grub*
[03:03] <b1shop> "default=saved"
[03:03] <b1shop> nevermind!  ;-)
[03:03] <frogzoo> elias_: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/50313
[03:04] <imsai> anyone  who's got epson scanner to work with epkowa ? iscan ?
[03:04] <bigfoot1> in terminal , how do i check if something is in repositiory+
[03:04] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:04] <bart3k> bigfoot1: apt-cache search something
[03:05] <bigfoot1> bart3k: i got so many hits.
[03:05] <bigfoot1> bart3k: is there a way to limit the search to just the "title field" or filename field+?
[03:05] <bart3k> bigfoot1: apt-cache search something|grep what you want ;p
[03:05] <bigfoot1> will that limit it to just filename +
[03:05] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:06] <frogzoo> easyu: yes, edit /etc/fstab
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> bigfoot1: apt-cache takes regex arguments
[03:06] <bigfoot1> fyrestrtr: wthat's regex
[03:06] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:07] <bigfoot1> i'm a synaptic boy.
[03:07] <marzec> greetings, could someone point me to a channel that could help me with a wireless usb card related problem?
[03:07] <bigfoot1> in synaptic, you can choose to limit searches to just filenames
[03:07] <bigfoot1> i thought terminal can do this, too.
[03:07] <marzec> or does anyone in here have experience with the wg111 usb stick ( from hell/netgear )?
[03:07] <snoops> I find the deskbar applet in gnome to be so incredibly handy - but whenever I reboot it freezes and has a hell of a time
[03:08] <snoops> is there alternatives?
[03:08] <ThaZZa> Hey All.. Can anyone help me with a permissions issue while mounting a drive?
[03:08] <Jesus> Someone in here (fyrestrtr) told me to run $ xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.se, to fix one of my keyboard problems, and now I got more problems... I can't change tty (i.e. Ctrl+Alt+FX doesn't work), and I cant write right paranthesises. Help?
[03:08] <snoops> freezes - and stops gnome-panel from loading properly so I have to kill the applet then it all finishes loading
[03:08] <dooglus> bigfoot1: you can do something like "apt-cache search web browser | grep -i browser" to search for packages with both 'web' and 'browser' in their name or description; the 'grep' bit will filter out all the ones which don't have 'browser' in the short description
[03:09] <seamus_ie> anyone know how to change mouse speed in X
[03:10] <bigfoot1> dooglus: how can i make a simple search in just the filename. say i want to see if there's a program that has the word "fox" in it
[03:11] <mille> Anyone of you guys know where I can get Enemy-Territory without having to register? Thanks in advance!
[03:11] <daxxar> http://www.g4tv.com/pile_landing.aspx?video_key=9038&pop=t
[03:11] <daxxar> Eh
[03:11] <daxxar> Never mind that. I don't know how it got on my clipboard, nor how it got in here. :|
[03:11] <daxxar> I don't even know what it is. :o
[03:11] <Lordveda> hello world
[03:11] <imsai> someone who could please help me with my scanner :) i did set /dev/usb/scanner0 in /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf , it won't work ..
[03:12] <Lordveda> Is there an official online site for Palm handheld related questions for Ubuntu?
[03:12] <imsai> ( i did get it to work in debian 2 years ago, strange it wont work in ubuntu thou .. )
[03:12] <LjL> imsai: have you enabled epkowa (and disabled epson) in dll.conf?
[03:13] <imsai> LjL: no epson is enabled
[03:13] <LjL> imsai: try disabling it
[03:13] <imsai> :) nice i'll fix that!
[03:13] <Lordveda> imsai: I get some weird attitude with the USB ports for my handheld
[03:14] <dooglus> bigfoot1: "apt-cache --names-only search fox" will do it
[03:14] <imsai> Lordveda: Okey
[03:14] <Lordveda> I need to make a static link to a static USB port so that gpilotd could listen to and hence sync with the Palm handheld
[03:14] <Lordveda> this doesn't happen to me
[03:14] <gatekeeper> bigfoot1: find / -name fox
[03:15] <gatekeeper> bigfoot1: what I have given is for searching for files on your hdd
[03:16] <imsai> LjL: "could not send command to scanner , check the scanner's status" this message do i get trying to start 'iscan'
[03:16] <LjL> imsai: run "scanimage -L" from root, does it show any scanner? and what about "sane-find-scanner"?
[03:17] <someothernick> anyone know of a app like waste for ubuntu?
[03:18] <imsai> LjL: No scanners were identified. it says, when trying command "scanimage -L"
[03:18] <LjL> imsai: ok, what about sane-find-scanner then?
[03:18] <imsai> LjL: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON] , product=0x010f [EPSON Scanner 010F] , chip=LM9832/3) at libusb:005:005
[03:18] <imsai>  when i try sane-find-scanner
[03:19] <easyu> can i change the partition label for hdd4 ?
[03:19] <LjL> imsai: edit /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf and comment out the line saying usb /dev/usb/scanner0  --  instead, add one saying   usb 0x4b8 0x010f
[03:20] <mezzrricki> can somone help me reset my permissions?
[03:20] <LMJ_Work> what's happening mezzrricki  ?
[03:20] <imsai> LjL: yes i did, it wont work , hmm strange
[03:20] <trev__> ok, i can't look at any files within my windows partitians, how do I fix that?
[03:21] <mezzrricki> I was trying to add my user to a dba group such that I could administer oracle, though I foolishly used usermod. this took me out of the admin group
[03:21] <hayden> is there a downloadable version of Ubuntu Server Guide by Ubuntu Documentation Team (to buy)?
[03:21] <imsai> LjL: this should not be in epkowa.conf ? > scsi EPSON
[03:22] <LjL> imsai: i'm not sure it can do any harm, but comment it out. it won't be useful for your USB scanner
[03:22] <imsai> LjL: yeah, i'll do so
[03:23] <trev__> when I try to look at a ntfs partitian i get a "Unable to mount the selected volume message", i only need read support
[03:23] <LjL> imsai: remember to be root when running scanimage, otherwise it'll always behave like it isn't finding anything
[03:23] <troozers> anyone know where you put the smb configuration for autofs?  it used to be /etc/auto.smb, but it has a script in there now :(
[03:24] <P1N3R> hey
[03:24] <P1N3R> can i get some help?
[03:24] <imsai> LjL: thx, mate! i'm loggedin as "root"
[03:24] <dooglus> P1N3R: just ask
[03:25] <P1N3R> grub is showing an error 22
[03:25] <P1N3R> so i cant load either windows xp or linux
[03:25] <LjL> imsai: also do something, just to be sure... in dll.conf, comment out *everything* except the epkowa (and perhaps "net")
[03:26] <trev__> can anyone please tell me how to mount a ntfs partisian
[03:26] <imsai> LjL: thx, i allready did that, thx thou!
[03:26] <imsai> LjL: heh, i worked with this for 3 hours now :), making me insane, ironic when i'm struggling with sane :)
[03:26] <P1N3R> i have two pcs showing this kind of symptom now
[03:26] <MenZa> !ntfs
[03:26] <LjL> !ntfs > trev__
[03:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:26] <dooglus> trev__: "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mount/ntfs" or some such
[03:26] <MenZa> LjL: bleh.
[03:26] <P1N3R> linux worked fine, so did windows
[03:26] <P1N3R> then all of a sudden it didnt
[03:27] <ThaZZa> ubotu: Can i ask you a question?
[03:27] <P1N3R> and on the other, i cant boot into linux at al
[03:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about Can i ask you a question? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:27] <trev__> thx
[03:27] <P1N3R> i dont even see GRUB
[03:27] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: you need to fix the mbr: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/55749-grub-error-22-a.html
[03:27] <MenZa> ThaZZa: ubotu is a bot.
[03:27] <dooglus> !ubotu
[03:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:27] <LjL> imsai: i know, i've had trouble with that too in the past... problem is, perhaps you're having a problem that i've also had, but since here it's been working for a while now, i don't quite remember the possible culprits =)
[03:27] <ThaZZa> MenZa: Oh well, can i ask you a question then? about mounts?
[03:27] <bigfoot1> what do you call the top and bottom horizontal areas on a Ubuntu desktop?
[03:27] <P1N3R> gatekeeper, i cant boot into windows xp setup
[03:27] <MenZa> ThaZZa: ask the channel :)
[03:27] <dooglus> bigfoot1: they're panels
[03:27] <bigfoot1> where, for example, the clock is?
[03:27] <bigfoot1> dooglus: ok
[03:27] <P1N3R> its hanging
[03:27] <bigfoot1> thanks
[03:27] <Khamael> will there ever be a flash 8 or above for ubuntu/linux?
[03:28] <ThaZZa> MenZa: Tried that like 15 mins ago.. twice.. got no answer.
[03:28] <bigfoot1> Khamael: good question
[03:28] <MenZa> !patience > ThaZZa
[03:28] <MenZa> :)
[03:28] <bigfoot1> many sites require version 8 now, don't they?
[03:28] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: you have a windows install cd?
[03:28] <dooglus> Khamael: there will be a flash 9 I think
[03:28] <linux3> hey can someone help me with my wireless card
[03:28] <dooglus> Khamael: they're skipping flash 8
[03:28] <bigfoot1> dooglus: really?
[03:28] <bigfoot1> for linux/
[03:28] <linux3> with dhcp i won't get an ip
[03:28] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:28] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: yes i do
[03:28] <Lynoure> ThaZZa: no, you just mentioned you had a "permission issue" not which kind...
[03:28] <linux3> with static setup it can get an ip but drops the connection soon after
[03:28] <Dagataka> ubotu xgl
[03:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:28] <imsai> LjL: kind that you offer to help, mate!!
[03:28] <linux3> anyone know anything about how to fix this
[03:29] <ThaZZa> MenZa: I am just having trouble with permissions on a mounted ext3 drive.. I need to know how to override the permissions, when you are mounting a drive, so all users can read the drive.
[03:29] <linux3> it is for an intel ipw3945
[03:29] <P1N3R> gatekeeper, it just hangs though...
[03:29] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: go into the bios and make the CD the first thing it boots from rather than the hdd
[03:29] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I read it somewhere
[03:29] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: your install cd?
[03:29] <P1N3R> but its detecting it gatekeeper, and you can say 'boot from cd', and then it just hangs after pressing enter
[03:29] <imsai> LjL: with "sane-find-scanner" it did find found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON] , product=0x010f [EPSON Scanner 010F]  , strange it wont .. hmm telephone rings, brb
[03:30] <dooglus> bigfoot1: macromedia say: "Based on the short time frame between announcing Flash Player 8 and Flash Player 8.5, we decided to work on developing a Linux version for Flash Player 8.5, which will ship after the Windows and Mac versions.
[03:30] <ThaZZa> MenZa: I am sure it is only a 3 second question..
[03:30] <LjL> imsai: oh try this     chmod g+rw /proc/bus/usb/001/00* ; chown root:scanner /proc/bus/usb/001/00*    (still all as root)
[03:31] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: sounds like a hardware issue or a damaged CD
[03:31] <bigfoot1> ah
[03:31] <Oliver_123> hello
[03:31] <dooglus> ThaZZa: mount -o umask=0 /dev/??? /mount/point
[03:31] <}btorch{> hello
[03:31] <}btorch{> hey anyone here heard about pyramid based on ubuntu
[03:31] <bigfoot1> dooglus: you rounded 8.5 to 9, eh+
[03:31] <P1N3R> gatekeeper, i have tried two copies of the installation cd
[03:31] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:31] <Oliver_123> i can't capture audio from the jack device
[03:32] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I think I read something else that plans for 8.5 had been put off, too; but maybe not...
[03:32] <CyDrive> anyone here reccomend a good c++ compiler with an ide and a good graphics library dosent matter about 3d at least 2d
[03:32] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Thanks tried that.. Keeps winging about wrong fs type.. Yet i am not picking a type.
[03:32] <dooglus> bigfoot1: maybe this?  http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/05/yes_virginia_th.cfm
[03:32] <imsai> LjL: i got libusb:005:005 should i try "/proc/bus/usb/005/00*" instead ?
[03:32] <Oliver_123> is there someone who hase experience with alsa and jack?
[03:32] <dooglus> ThaZZa: it's FAT3"?
[03:32] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: sounds like a visit to your local computer supplier to me, may you CDROM is broken
[03:32] <dooglus> ThaZZa: it's FAT32?
[03:32] <LjL> CyDrive: *the* C/C++ compiler is GCC. as for the IDE, you just pick one... perhaps Eclipse. or anjuta.
[03:33] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Ext3, or Riser i think.
[03:33] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: its booting the Ubuntu live cd fine...
[03:33] <LjL> imsai: yeah, i guess so
[03:33] <P1N3R> and Kubuntu live cd
[03:33] <ThaZZa> dooglus: It is from a working linux box.
[03:33] <dooglus> ThaZZa: mount -t reiserfs -o umask=0 /dev/??? /mount/point
[03:33] <dooglus> ThaZZa: oh, I see!
[03:33] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Same error about fs. :-(
[03:34] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: hmmm don't know what to say
[03:34] <dooglus> ThaZZa: if it's a remote filesystem then you don't want to mount the device... you want to use smbfs or cifs or sshfs or nfs or one of those network-y filesystems
[03:34] <ThaZZa> dooglus: tailing the logs tells me the command umask is not a vaild option.
[03:34] <dooglus> ThaZZa: how is the filesystem shared/exported?
[03:34] <dooglus> ThaZZa: I guess reiserfs doesn't have a umask option, right
[03:35] <ThaZZa> dooglus: No.. not a remote file system.. Another drive, moved temp from the other machine to this one.. It is hdb1
[03:35] <P1N3R> ok gatekeeper thankyou for your help
[03:35] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: i have another issue if you dont mind?
[03:35] <user-land> thank you, frogzoo, now outside /media sudo chown works again.
[03:35] <dooglus> ThaZZa: the filesystem is mounted on the remote machine, right?
[03:36] <dooglus> ThaZZa: I see what you mean now.  you've physically moved the disk over.
[03:36] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Yes.. for a couple of days, so i can get some data off the drive.
[03:36] <dooglus> ThaZZa: if it's a Linux filesystem (reiserfs or ext3 for example) then it has permissions - some folders are only readable for certain users.
[03:36] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: you can download bootdisk from www.bootdisk.com don't know if that is of any help to you?
[03:36] <ThaZZa> dooglus: I want to put it back in the machine after these days, in same state it came out.
[03:37] <i10neorg> I'm familiar with Debian, and am installing Ubuntu on a free partition to evaluate for my Dad.
[03:37] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: that will allow me to boot?
[03:37] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Is there no way of making it mount so everyone can read the fs.. Or do i need to chown -R for the filesystem as root?
[03:37] <dooglus> ThaZZa: you'll need to either (1) change the permissions on the disk (which you probably don't want to do, 'cos you borrowed the disk and don't want to change it), (2) log in as a user who has permission to read the files (you may have to make a new user with the right uid for this) or (3) become root, which solves all the problems
[03:37] <imsai> LjL: i did add usbcore
[03:37] <imsai> usb-uhci to /etc/modules , it doesn't work anyway , i will stop buzzing your a** now :) , thx for your help man!...
[03:37] <fourat> hello
[03:37] <i10neorg> Did a netboot install, let it update grub (it saw my Debian install as well), reboot.
[03:37] <dooglus> ThaZZa: I wouldn't chown it - the disk's owner will be pissed off with you, won't he?
[03:38] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: should do if you are able to burn it onto a CD somehow
[03:38] <fourat> lpstat wont detect any printer in my lan, here's what it says :
[03:38] <fourat> ~# lpstat -p
[03:38] <fourat> lpstat: No destinations added.
[03:38] <ThaZZa> dooglus: I just feel this would be stupid way of doing it, as it would change all the owners, and stuff up when i put it back in the old system.
[03:38] <i10neorg> Saw grub with the new ubuntu entries as well as my pre-existing debian ones.
[03:38] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: i have this pc to burn with, so thats no problem
[03:38] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Any other ideas? if not chown?
[03:38] <LjL> imsai: oh wait, try removing usb-uhci and adding usb-ohci instead
[03:38] <i10neorg> Boot into ubuntu and was presented with a console login prompt.
[03:38] <dooglus> ThaZZa: chown is (1) in my monster sentence above.  (2) and (3) are better.
[03:38] <imsai> LjL: okey, i'll try :) ..
[03:38] <i10neorg> I was expecting some sort of second stage of the install???
[03:39] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: i have another problem. This pc has Linux installed, yet it boots straight to windows over Linux
[03:39] <dooglus> ThaZZa: ie. either make a user with the right uid, or use root to copy the files, and chown *your* copies,  *after* you've copied them
[03:39] <P1N3R> GRUB doesnt even show
[03:39] <imsai> LjL: guess i've to reboot then ..
[03:39] <ThaZZa> dooglus: ok so check the ids in when as root. and make a user with the same id?
[03:39] <LjL> imsai: (leave /etc/modules alone for the moment, just rmmod usb-uhci and modprobe usb-ohci... you'll change modules later if it works)
[03:39] <dooglus> ThaZZa: mount the partition, and do an "ls -l" on the place you can't read
[03:39] <LjL> imsai: no, no need to reboot
[03:39] <imsai> LjL: okey! :)
[03:40] <}btorch{> is chkcconfig not part of basic debootstrap install ?
[03:40] <dooglus> ThaZZa: you don't need to be root to see the permissions on the folder you can't get into
[03:40] <i10neorg> Should there be a second stage to an install where X gets setup and whatnot?
[03:40] <dooglus> ThaZZa: 'cd' as far as you can go, then 'ls -l' to see the permissions
[03:40] <imsai> LjL: :) , FATAL: Module usb_ohci not found.
[03:41] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: never had to do that but this may help: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[03:41] <ThaZZa> dooglus: once the drive is mounted, only root can gain access to the mount path and do a ls.
[03:41] <dooglus> ThaZZa: do an "ls -ld" on the mount path itself
[03:41] <action09> hi !
[03:41] <ThaZZa> dooglus: i have a group setup that is same gid for the old and new system, and the user i am as is part of this group.
[03:41] <i10neorg> Should I just manually start the second stage of the install?
[03:41] <LjL> imsai: right. i was trying that on debian (that's where i have the scanner). try modprobe ohci-hcd instead
[03:41] <i10neorg> If so, what's the command?
[03:42] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: and this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[03:42] <froop> can anyone give me a little hand? i installed dapper yesterday on my laptop and everything was going quite nicely and it told me there were some updates to install
[03:42] <fourat> lpstat wont detect any printer in my lan, here's what it says :
[03:42] <dooglus> ThaZZa: does the directory have read and execute perissions for the group?
[03:42] <fourat> ~# lpstat -p
[03:42] <froop> so i let it go 12 hours on my dialup, no errors anywhere in the install bit and it tells me to reboot, i reboot and now after the post screen i just get a blank screen with a flashing cursor, hdd works for about 30 seconds then all is quiet
[03:42] <fourat> lpstat wont detect any printer in my lan, here's what it says :
[03:42] <fourat> lpstat: No destinations added.
[03:42] <fourat> i cant add a cups-shared printer :(
[03:42] <ThaZZa> dooglus: drwxrwx--- 9 root users 4096 2006-07-18 11:02 /isis/
[03:42] <imsai> LjL: that went nice!
[03:42] <ThaZZa> dooglus: group is users.. mount path is /isis
[03:43] <dooglus> ThaZZa: anyone in group 'users' should be able to get in there
[03:43] <action09> i've a question while using evolution/spamassassin, i try to learn the bayesian classifier with spam doing this: "sa-learn --spam --showdots --mbox ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.sbd/SPAMS"   and i got each time a segmentation error; is my command nok ? i think too that the mailbox format is used ,because it's one file.. correct ?
[03:43] <dooglus> ThaZZa: did you just add yourself to 'users'?  or were you in it already?
[03:43] <Dimensions> hi when i ssh my pc i can access one of my pc but when i try to access the first one from other one it can't access the other one
[03:43] <dooglus> action09: I use this: sa-learn --spam --mbox --progress < ~/.evolution/mail/local/Spam
[03:43] <NsHQ> http://world3.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=38043755
[03:43] <dooglus> action09: I think maybe you need the '<'?
[03:43] <imsai> LjL: No scanners were identified. when trying scanimage -L
[03:44] <user-land> how can i change partition labels ?
[03:44] <ThaZZa> dooglus: more /etc/group users:x:100:thazza
[03:44] <action09> dooglus  ok i'll do it right now i'll tell you thanks man
[03:44] <ThaZZa> dooglus: added myself with command, addgroup thazza users
[03:44] <dooglus> action09: the man page disagrees with me though - so maybe that's not the problem
[03:44] <LjL> imsai: try the chmod command again, it might have reverted to the previous permissions when loading the new module
[03:44] <i10neorg> What to do when Boot Installation Media -> Download, Install Grub Reboot -> Reboot Into Console (NO X or further prompting) ???
[03:44] <}btorch{> how can I get a list of files of a pkg that is installed on my system ?
[03:44] <dooglus> ThaZZa: you need to log out and in again for the group to take effect.
[03:44] <ThaZZa> dooglus: lol
[03:44] <dooglus> ThaZZa: doing a "ssh thazza@localhost" is enough
[03:45] <}btorch{> I have chroot to a partition where I installed unbuntu with debootstrap and I would like to slim it down
[03:45] <dooglus> ThaZZa: assuming you have an sshd running
[03:45] <}btorch{> remvoing some pkgs
[03:45] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: do you know which bootdisk i need?
[03:45] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Works now.. Yes reconnected via ssh
[03:45] <action09> dooglus and all: bayes: bayes db version 0 is not able to be used, aborting! at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore/DBM.pm line 195. ..and a segfault, it's more a configuration problem on my sied so ?
[03:45] <ndlovu> what's the best strategy for mounting samba shares? I currently mount them through fstab, using a credentials file. the trouble is that I have to manually mount them again each time I reboot.
[03:45] <ThaZZa> dooglus: learn something new everyday.. was wondering how it updated the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[03:45] <jrib> }btorch{: for your first question, I think the answer is: dpkg -L package_name
[03:45] <imsai> LjL: no luck, i should have i look at epkowa.conf again ..
[03:45] <dooglus> action09: sounds like you're using an old database.
[03:46] <Sakireth> Which video card driver is faster for my ATI Radeon 9600 XT, 'ati', 'radeon', or 'fglrx'?
[03:46] <ThaZZa> dooglus: looks like the problem is fixed. .Thanks for your help.
[03:46] <dooglus> ThaZZa: don't understand it myself - the 'adduser' updates /etc/group, but that's not enough.
[03:46] <kbukhari> hello all
[03:46] <wastrel> Sakireth:  fglrx will be faster for 3d
[03:46] <}btorch{> jrib, yeah just tried dpkg-query -l
[03:46] <Sakireth> wastrel: and for 2d?
[03:46] <kbukhari> i want to install yahoo on 6.0.6
[03:46] <wastrel> Sakireth:  dunno, not a great difference as far as i can tell.
[03:46] <kbukhari> with apth
[03:46] <Seveas> kbukhari, applications  internet  gaim
[03:46] <kbukhari> how can i ?
[03:47] <Seveas> kbukhari, that can do yahoo
[03:47] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: I would guess at Windows XP Fresh Install not exactly sure
[03:47] <dooglus> ThaZZa: you might have found that "newgrp users" would have fixed it without the need to ssh in again
[03:47] <kbukhari> no
[03:47] <kbukhari> yahoo
[03:47] <imsai> LjL: maby its because i did alien an .rpm package with iscan ?
[03:47] <i10neorg> what should I see after the first reboot after booting insallation media?
[03:47] <Seveas> you cannot install the yahoo proprietary crud via apt
[03:47] <Sakireth> wastrel: Hmm.. how to get fglrx? Followed the howto's, but i got the SGI line at the glxinfo thingy. But i did get 3D acceleration
[03:47] <kbukhari> i want to use yahoo's client for linux
[03:47] <Wolfman-K> how can I make a service like psybnc load on start up?
[03:47] <}btorch{> so I simple apt-get remove alsa-utils should do the trick right
[03:47] <sorush20> I have a pentium four 3ghz I don't knoow if its a 686 or 386?
[03:47] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307654
[03:48] <LjL> imsai: bleah, don't do that. but, no, i don't think that'd be the culprit
[03:48] <}btorch{> wierd is that a dpkg --get-selections shows it as deinstall
[03:48] <ThaZZa> dooglus: computers.. Grrr. lol
[03:48] <}btorch{> why not just removed ?
[03:48] <imsai> LjL: hehe!
[03:48] <ThaZZa> dooglus: all my issues are sorted now.. Thanks Man.. :D
[03:48] <wastrel> Sakireth:  the howto worked for me...
[03:50] <kbukhari> kokoko1,  hello
[03:50] <froop> ...nobody?
[03:50] <dooglus> action09: check this out: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2005-May/046914.html
[03:50] <action09> dooglus  thx
[03:50] <dooglus> thansen: you're welcome
[03:50] <kbukhari> kokoko1,  hello
[03:50] <wastrel> sorush20:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:51] <gnoshi> hi - a quick question - what is or how does one create a .dsc file for use with pbuilder?
[03:51] <wastrel> sorush20:  the cpu family line will probably say 6
[03:51] <jrib> gnoshi: well you can download the source with apt-get source or you can read the guide on help.ubuntu.com for packaging
[03:51] <samu2> hmm \w in my regexp doesnt seem to match scandinavian chars, any ideas?
[03:52] <Sakireth> [15:47]  <Sakireth> wastrel: Hmm.. how to get fglrx? Followed the howto's, but i got the SGI line at the glxinfo thingy. But i did get 3D acceleration
[03:52] <gnoshi> ah - I was looking in the wiki under the pbuilder howto
[03:52] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: that process says i should use the Ubuntu installation cd, i only have a Live cd. WIll that work as well?
[03:52] <wastrel> Sakireth:  howtos worked for me.  you need to make sure that 1. the fglrx module is running, and 2. the xorg.conf is set to use the fglrx driver.
[03:52] <MrRagga> hi, my reiserfs partitions are messed up, does anybody know some good tools to recover? i've already tried testdisk
[03:53] <LjL> imsai: perhaps try   export SANE_DEBUG_EPKOWA=128  , and then again scanimage -L
[03:53] <wheelswitch> what is the bash command to show where your data is stored? like makes it easier to find big files / folders
[03:53] <action09> dooglus  same :/ i remove all bayes* in ~/.spamassassin, stopped sa, i did a sa-learn --sync -D which told me this time "[22868]  dbg: bayes: files locked, now unlocking lock
[03:53] <action09> [22868]  dbg: locker: safe_unlock: unlink /home/action09/.spamassassin/bayes.lock
[03:53] <action09> " it seems ok but while i'm learning now again it segfault another time
[03:53] <Wolfman-K> hello, does anyone know how can I make a service like psybnc load on start up?
[03:54] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: I think so you could try this first: grub-install /dev/hda http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[03:54] <action09> wheelswitch kdirstat - graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities may help
[03:54] <dooglus> Wolfman-K: look in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc2.d
[03:54] <LjL> wheelswitch: "du | sort -n" perhaps. that'll show all folders and subfolders sorted by size. might take a while
[03:54] <mezzrricki> can someone help me restore admin privledges?
[03:54] <froop> anyone know why i would get a blank screen after the bios screen after installing updates ?
[03:54] <AngryElf> if I close a terminal is the buffer deleted or saved somewhere?
[03:54] <wheelswitch> cheers LjL
[03:54] <dooglus> wheelswitch: do you know about the graphical tool which shows where your disk space is being used?
[03:55] <Shak-> is it possible to lock my iwconfig settings depending on the mode? e.g. if I move to mode monitor im unassociated to an AP, then when I come back to Managed im randomly connected to some ap in my area
[03:55] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: i tried it last night, i couldnt get it working
[03:55] <Sakireth> Hmm.. how to get fglrx? Followed the howto's, but i got the SGI line at the glxinfo thingy. But i did get 3D acceleration
[03:55] <dooglus> wheelswitch: it's called 'baobab'
[03:55] <dooglus> !info baobab
[03:55] <ubotu> baobab: graphical tool to analyse directory trees. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 584 kB
[03:55] <wheelswitch> dooglus:  no
[03:55] <wheelswitch> ill give it a look
[03:55] <dooglus> wheelswitch: it's relatively nice
[03:55] <dooglus> wheelswitch: looks quite a lot like 'treesize' on windows
[03:56] <wheelswitch> thanks action09 dooglus
[03:56] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: try the other method, there is a dapper text installer which may give you more control which you can download, the alt cd
[03:56] <dooglus> action09: you could try #spamassassin here on freenode
[03:56] <Sakireth> anyone?
[03:57] <action09> dooglus  i cross post yeah /0\  thanks anyway for your help
[03:57] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: the other method?
[03:58] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[03:58] <action09> anyway i'm using Ubuntu till Breezy and i did dist-upgrade each new release but now for days i'have lot of apps killing/vanishing/stopping by themselves: gaim, firefox,rhythmbox.. i don't understandhow can i search for clues, strace maybe..
[03:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> Jesus christ I must be a nerd
[03:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> I just recorded a song about my monitor dying.
[03:59] <JohnRobert> tell me about it
[03:59] <JohnRobert> oh
[03:59] <dooglus> action09: you could run the apps inside gdm I guess
[03:59] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: I am not an expert on grub, so far not had your misfortune (crosses fingers :-) )
[03:59] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: where can i get the installation cd?
[03:59] <dooglus> action09: or turn on core-dumping
[03:59] <user-land> is a firewall activated by default ? can i disable it ?
[03:59] <P1N3R> the one that is talked of
[03:59] <P1N3R> ?
[03:59] <Sakireth> mwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeheheehhehe i want fglrx! :"(
[03:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> Sakireth, yes, it's very sad.
[03:59] <user-land> where can i access the partitioner ?
[03:59] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: ubuntu one?
[03:59] <Sakireth> Sir_Fawnpug: Myeah.
[03:59] <dooglus> user-land: "fdisk"?
[04:00] <user-land> oh ...
[04:00] <Spec> !firewall > user-land
[04:00] <action09> dooglus  to generate a core-dump, i'll check thanks
[04:00] <dooglus> user-land: the firewall is always on, but by default allows everything
[04:00] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: yes. i have the live cd, just not the installation cd. unless that is what is talked about?
 Don't wear out my name!
[04:00] <mezzrricki> can someone help with groups?
[04:00] <gnoshi> out of curiosity, has anyone managed to get zfone working?
[04:01] <jrib> mezzrricki: what about them?
[04:01] <user-land> dooglus, thanks, can i switch it off ?
[04:01] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: you using breezy or dapper?
[04:01] <Sakireth> !fglrx
[04:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:01] <mezzrricki> getting myself back into the admin group
[04:01] <}btorch{> damn it I removed gcc-4.0-base and it removed aptitude, apt-utils and apt
[04:01] <dooglus> user-land: it's built into the kernel, so I don't think so.  but it has no rules by default, so it's effective off
[04:01] <}btorch{> how can i get that back since i don't have apt anymore
[04:01] <jrib> mezzrricki: do you have any accounts with sudo access or have you enabled root?
[04:01] <}btorch{> :-(
[04:01] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: i dont know the difference?
[04:01] <dooglus> user-land: it's on, but doing nothing - allowing all connections, blocking nothing
[04:01] <mezzrricki> no root, no other sudoers
[04:01] <definity> is there a way to get my infrared working so i can see data comming in?
[04:01] <dooglus> }btorch{: you still have "dpkg"?
[04:02] <mezzrricki> I did a number on myself
[04:02] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: 6.06?
[04:02] <}btorch{> yes
[04:02] <jrib> mezzrricki: reboot and choose recovery mode from grub, then: adduser your_user_name admin
[04:02] <dooglus> }btorch{: you still have a bunch of .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[04:02] <definity> how can i do it anyone knw?
[04:02] <mezzrricki> alright I'll be back
[04:02] <Sakireth> aww COME ON!~
[04:02] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: that's dapper :-) http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[04:02] <}btorch{> yes
[04:02] <Sakireth> all i'm asking for is video card help :(*
[04:02] <mezzrricki> thank you
[04:02] <}btorch{> all there
[04:02] <}btorch{> cool
[04:02] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: dapper livecdalso allows you to install
[04:02] <dooglus> }btorch{: hopefully "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/apt*.deb" will sort you out
[04:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> Jesus, my apologies, oh exalted one.
[04:03] <newtux> /win close
[04:03] <wheelswitch> action09 dooglus : it was a nice tool indeed, thanks!
[04:03] <Arclite> Do LiveCDs have any history of problems that affect the computer after rebooting into the normal OS?
[04:03] <dooglus> }btorch{: actually, you might want to be a bit more careful about exactly which .deb files you use, but you get the idea
 np ;)
[04:03] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: is that the installation cd then?
[04:03] <tristanmike> Has anyone any experience installing the "ePSXe" that can give me a hand ?
[04:03] <action09> wheelswitch i saw it first time on windows, windirstat, but it's an open source tool afair
[04:04] <dooglus> wheelswitch: if you just want to find big files, you can "find . -size +1M -ls" (where the 1M means 1 meg, and can be changed to whatever you like)
[04:04] <action09> very useful tool
[04:04] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: it is now :-) but like I said there is the alt CD which I think comes with the old text installer
[04:04] <}btorch{> ok it just depends on some other stuff that also got removed , i thought by uninstalling gcc-4.0-base I would removing only gcc4 since I want to installed gcc3.x
[04:04] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: you should have an icon on the desktop Install
[04:05] <wheelswitch> nah, more about finding big dirs
[04:05] <dooglus> }btorch{: you're going to have to chase down the dependencies yourself, but hopefully they'll all be in that cache dir
[04:05] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: yes
[04:05] <P1N3R> i do
[04:05] <dooglus> }btorch{: if not, you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to hunt them down.
[04:05] <P1N3R> i'll give it a try eh?
[04:05] <dooglus> }btorch{: makes you appreciate apt-get doesn't it?
[04:05] <}btorch{> yes
[04:06] <i10neorg> Any reason why after rebooting from the first stage of the installation I'd get a console login prompt instead of the second stage of the install?
[04:06] <calamari> hi
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> join #Kde
[04:06] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: good luck
[04:06] <dooglus> }btorch{: I just tried removing gcc-4.0-base, and it told me: The following packages will be REMOVED cpp-4.0 g++-4.0 gcc-4.0 gcc-4.0-base libstdc++6-4.0-dev
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> hi
[04:06] <definity> has any one here used kismet?
[04:06] <Sakireth> ...
[04:06] <Sakireth> oops
[04:06] <Sakireth> i forgot.. offtopic channel
[04:06] <calamari> anyone else having trouble checking their yahoo mail?
[04:06] <dooglus> }btorch{: no idea why it took apt-get away from you
[04:06] <Sakireth> Can anyone please help me with this problem?
[04:06] <Spec> Sakireth: so, what's your problem?
[04:07] <Sakireth> well
[04:07] <Sakireth> Video card.
[04:07] <Spec> Sakireth: please don't ask if someone will help you
[04:07] <}btorch{> no
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> ATI
[04:07] <Sakireth> I try installing FGLRX and stuff..
[04:07] <}btorch{> it never told me that
[04:07] <Sakireth> according to the howto. tried it all, sadly, i still get the SGI line
[04:07] <dooglus> }btorch{: are you sure you didn't accidentally type 'sudo apt-get remove gcc-4.0-base apt'?
[04:07] <gatekeeper> calamari: tried it this morning and ok, hang on...
[04:07] <Spec> i don't know anything about fglrx, can't help, sorry :)
[04:07] <Sakireth> BUT i DO get direct rendering
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> Which Ati card u using
[04:07] <Sakireth> ATI Radeon 9600 XT
 How do u enable direct rendering
[04:08] <gatekeeper> calamari: still fine
[04:08] <Sakireth> ... I didn't say that, Paddy_EIR.
[04:08] <FSK405C> any idea on audio under quake3 with dapper? typical solutions tried and failed. :(
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> oh, sry
[04:08] <calamari> gatekeeper: thanks for checking, weird then
[04:08] <}btorch{> i used dpkg -r gcc-4.0-base
[04:08] <definity> has any one here used kismet?
[04:08] <gatekeeper> calamari: I am using the uk one
[04:08] <Spec> !anyone
[04:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:08] <gatekeeper> calamari: np :-)
[04:09] <user-land2> thank you, dooglus, my router gave me a new internal IP number for the new motherboard, that's why i had problems.
[04:09] <}btorch{> anyway I thought by having gcc-4.0-base i had the gcc4 compiler but i guess not
[04:10] <feydin> hi, i got massive entries in dmesg of this kind: nv_sata: Primary device added
[04:10] <dooglus> }btorch{: if I try that it won't let me: dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of gcc-4.0-base:
[04:10] <feydin> anyone seen this before?
[04:10] <dooglus> }btorch{: dpkg doesn't handle dependencies?
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> I downloaded and installed Kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu recently and since have a a few little minor problems.  For one the splash screen now loads up the kubuntu one (i miss my ubuntu splash) and two the kde panel is a little missing, anyone fancy helping me out
[04:12] <}btorch{> so proper way to remove i pakage should be apt-get remove
[04:12] <dooglus> }btorch{: yes.
[04:12] <dooglus> }btorch{: did you just run "sudo dpkg -r gcc-4.0-base", and that took lots of stuff with it?
[04:12] <bigfoot1> how do i know what file system I am using?
[04:12] <dooglus> }btorch{: or did you use an extra flag to tell it to remove dependencies too?
[04:13] <erUSUL> bigfoot1: mount
[04:13] <dooglus> bigfoot1: mount | grep ' / '
[04:14] <i10neorg> What command is used to begin the second stage of an fresh install?
Is this card any good ATI Radeon 9600 XT and how much do ut think i could pick one up for
[04:15] <}btorch{> yes
[04:15] <Boglizk> According to 'apt-cache policy firefox' i have version 1.5.4 of Mozilla Firefox. But the About Mozilla Firefox dialog says 1.5.2
[04:16] <jrib> Boglizk: what does 'readlink -f $(which firefox)' say, without the quotes
[04:16] <robin> Okay i tried everything in the fglrx howto again but i still get NO direct rendering and the string remains 'SGI'
[04:17] <Boglizk> opt firefox firefox
[04:17] <robin> Paddy_EIRE: Okay i tried everything in the fglrx howto again but i still get NO direct rendering and the string remains 'SGI'
[04:18] <cosmicShadow> robin: what card do you have?
[04:18] <robin> cosmicShadow: ATI Radeon 9600 XT :P
[04:18] <senshine> can someone point me to a link of the orginal sources.list on a default install. I just over wrote mine. 6.06
[04:19] <robin> cosmicShadow: Upon first installation when i tried it it worked fine. Must've ruined something
[04:19] <cosmicShadow> all right.
[04:20] <dr_willis> !easysource
[04:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:22] <cosmicShadow> robin: sudo apt-get remove xorx-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r),the apt-get install the same thing.  restart, and it should work.
[04:22] <robin> alriht
[04:22] <robin> i'll try
[04:22] <senshine> thanks
[04:23] <cosmicShadow> robin: reinstall the linux-restricted-modules package first when re-installing.
[04:24] <Augustus> hey
[04:24] <Augustus> i was wondering could someone help me with the sound "issue" i got after updating? :o
[04:25] <froop> anyone know why i would get a blank screen after the bios screen after installing updates ?
[04:25] <MrRagga> what is the name of the bot used in here?
[04:26] <krism> !help > MrRagga
[04:26] <MrRagga> Krhis: ah, infobot thanks
[04:27] <MrRagga> Krhis: sorry
[04:27] <MrRagga> krism: thanks
[04:28] <Sakireth> Alright cosmicShadow, it works, but i still got SGI as string line
[04:28] <Sakireth> although DRI is on now
[04:28] <Sakireth> direct rendering: Yes
[04:28] <Sakireth> server glx vendor string: SGI
[04:29] <bigfoot1> in synaptic, what does the ubuntu logo to the left of a package signify?????
[04:30] <dooglus> bigfoot1: flash 8.5 has been renamed to flash 9 - so luckily I was rounding anything earlier :)
[04:30] <bigfoot1> ah
[04:30] <bigfoot1> any ETA?
[04:30] <Boglizk> Flash 9 is out for Linux? :o
[04:30] <dooglus> "early 2007"
[04:31] <Boglizk> oh..
[04:31] <Boglizk> shame... theres tons of great flashmovies i'm not able to watch..
[04:31] <cosmicShadow> Sakireth: ok... lemme think.
[04:31] <wastrel> Boglizk:  don't worry, everyone will be using flash 10 by the time 9 is out for linux
[04:32] <wastrel> so you still won't be able to watch them
[04:32] <Augustus> i was wondering could someone help me with the sound "issue" i got after updating? :o
[04:32] <bigfoot1> quick q: in synaptic, what does the ubuntu logo to the left of a package signify?
[04:32] <Boglizk> lol wastrel, thats true
[04:32] <Sakireth> cosmicShadow: k.
[04:32] <vinboy> how do I make my console colorful?
[04:32] <dooglus> Boglizk: this is the blog of one of the guys working on the Linux port: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[04:33] <Boglizk> I've seen it
[04:33] <dooglus> ok
[04:33] <Krhis> MrRagga, It's ok. ^_^
[04:33] <jes-o-mat> Hi
[04:33] <dooglus> bigfoot1: could it mean that the package is in 'main', and therefore gets security updates?
[04:33] <Skaag> anyone here uses openoffice?
[04:33] <Jesus> Everytime I restart my comp. I need to reinstall GRUB, got any ideas why?
[04:33] <bigfoot1> dooglus:  beats me
[04:33] <bigfoot1> Skaag: i do
[04:34] <Boglizk> Or its tested on Ubuntu and it works?
[04:34] <jes-o-mat> I always goet the follwoing error while kernel-image building via make-kpkg (dapper): dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 not in control info
[04:34] <Skaag> bigfoot1: you ever tried adding a watermark to a document?
[04:34] <jes-o-mat> any ideas?
[04:34] <bigfoot1> Skaag: i was wanting to do that 2 weeks ago, but wasn't succesful
[04:34] <cosmicShadow> Sakireth: all i can think of is to check you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, under devices, make sure the card driver is set to 'fglrx'
[04:34] <Skaag> bigfoot1: I add one, according to the instructions, but when I want to select text that's above the watermark, it selects the watermark instead
[04:35] <Skaag> bigfoot1: I found a page with instructions on how to do it
[04:35] <Sakireth>         Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AR [Radeon 9600 XT] "
[04:35] <Sakireth>         Driver          "fglrx"
[04:35] <Skaag> bigfoot1: but that problem persists...
[04:35] <bigfoot1> maybe ask in openoffice chatroom
[04:35] <bigfoot1> or post on their forum
[04:36] <cosmicShadow> hmm... check your Xorg.0.log file (under /var/log) for any driver problems.
[04:36] <user-land2> is there a gui partitioner in ubuntu ?
[04:36] <yggdrasil> hello, i installed ubuntu on a computer that had windows and the dell stuff on its first partition and now i would like to erase that partition, how do i check if its going to mess up my grub ?
[04:36] <Augustus> i was wondering could someone help me with the sound "issue" i got after updating? :o
[04:36] <satempler> user-land2: yes gparted
[04:36] <boricua> having issues with bluefish  how can i preview code in firefox  when i click in bluefish/preview all it does it open the page as if was an  editor i would like to preview the page as if it was a browser
[04:36] <bigfoot1> Skaag: i'd love to know if you're successful
[04:36] <definity> can anyone tell me how i can get my infrared working?
[04:36] <user-land2> satempler, how can i start it ?
[04:37] <bigfoot1> Skaag: when you find out  the answer, can you emial me?
[04:37] <Skaag> bigfoot1: I'll find a solution, if there is one
[04:37] <Skaag> sure
[04:37] <Skaag> I will write about it on my blog
[04:37] <Skaag> www.skaag.net
[04:37] <bigfoot1> ok
[04:37] <Skaag> but sure mail me and i'll reply back
[04:37] <RvGaTe> !seen serge
[04:37] <Skaag> countz@gmail.com
[04:37] <ubotu> I last saw Serge (n=Serge@user-1398.lns6-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk) 8h 31s ago, quiting: Client Quit
[04:37] <satempler> user-land2: sudo apt-get install gparted then it should be in System Admin
[04:37] <user-land2> thank you.
[04:37] <imsai> LjL: do you think it has something to do with not having my scanner plugged in to my notebook when i did install ubuntu ? maby then it would recognize it on the usb ?
[04:37] <RvGaTe> !seen styleuk
[04:37] <satempler> np
[04:37] <ubotu> I last saw styleuk (n=serge@user-1398.lns6-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk) 5h 6m 18s ago, quiting: "Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"
[04:37] <RvGaTe> hmz
[04:38] <LjL> imsai: the scanner module thing shouldn't be needed, or even easily possible to do in ubuntu. basically iirc there were two ways epkowa could access the scanner: through the "scanner" module and through libusb. libusb i think is preferred, and in the case of ubuntu there is no scanner module anyway
[04:38] <Sakireth> !seen kde
[04:38] <ubotu> I haven't seen kde recently
[04:38] <krism> !seen krism
[04:38] <ubotu> krism is on IRC right now!
[04:38] <Sakireth> !seen ubotu
[04:38] <ubotu> ubotu is on IRC right now!
[04:38] <LjL> imsai: i don't think so
[04:38] <Sakireth> heh.
[04:38] <LjL> !msg the bot
[04:38] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[04:38] <Sakireth> !seen \r\n
[04:38] <ubotu> I haven't seen \r\n recently
[04:38] <imsai> LjL: okey, thx! :)
[04:39] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me what Buffer I/O error on device hdd, mean
[04:39] <bigfoot1> Skaag: thanks. i've just emailed you
[04:39] <LjL> stop playing with the bot, please
[04:39] <Deanodriver> hello :)
[04:39] <Sakireth> alright.
[04:39] <RvGaTe> please... i did it for a purpose... not to trigger a flood...
[04:39] <Deanodriver> I've installed Acrobat Reader, and now whenever I try to load a PDF in Firefox, it will load up the PDF in a separate window, rather than having it run under Firefox, is there any way to fix that?
[04:40] <Deanodriver> when it asks me what program to use to open the PDF, I just put down acroread
[04:40] <Deanodriver> does it need any specific options?
[04:40] <yggdrasil> hello, i installed ubuntu on a computer that had windows and the dell stuff on its first partition and now i would like to erase that partition, how do i check if its going to mess up my grub ?
[04:41] <satempler> yggdrasil: should be fine to delete it
[04:41] <yggdrasil> i just want to make sure its on mbr or something
[04:41] <satempler> yggdrasil: just make sure to run sudo update-grub
[04:41] <yggdrasil> ahh good point ok
[04:42] <satempler> and the device /dev/hda
[04:42] <yggdrasil> i would leave it but the dam whole os is taking up 9.5 gb and ive got thru and cleaned it all.
[04:42] <LjL> imsai: oh by the way, did you install the epkowa backend from the epson avasys site, or did you use the ubuntu package?
[04:42] <LjL> imsai: (guess the latter, since i think it's installed by default)
[04:42] <cosmicShadow> Sakireth: I'm here
[04:42] <Sakireth> cosmicShadow: Alright.
[04:43] <Sakireth> cosmicShadow: check your PM then
[04:43] <yggdrasil> satempler ok one more question, ive got 4 partitions ones the dell thing like 10mb the others a 10gb ntfs , my 15gb  / on ext3 and a 15gb hda7 ext3 and my / is in the middle of them all. how can i combine the parts at the begining of the disk and the part at the end of the disk, or move my current / to the first partition ?
[04:43] <cosmicShadow> Sakireth: I did - something isn't working right, I guess.
[04:43] <}btorch{> hmm i wish i could make my ubuntu smaller less than 184
[04:43] <}btorch{> mb
[04:44] <}btorch{> i have removed the apt caches
[04:44] <yggdrasil> thats pretty small
[04:44] <alex_ndc> if I start an application ... does anyone know how can I start it under a specific user, like [apache] , without logging as that user ?
[04:44] <satempler> yggdrasil: try booting up with the Desktop CD of ubuntu and run gparted
[04:44] <satempler> that should help you out
[04:44] <wheels3572> Is there any way I can use a partitioner from a Live CD?
[04:44] <yggdrasil> gparted ? hmm.. will that let me move them around ?
[04:44] <imsai> LjL: i did install iscan, it did have epkowa in it
[04:45] <yggdrasil> like partition magic and stuff ?
[04:45] <satempler> yggdrasil: yes like partion magic but for gnome check in System > Admin
[04:45] <yggdrasil> awesome
[04:45] <yggdrasil> thanks
[04:45] <satempler> it will be on the boot cd
[04:45] <definity> is there a way to find out if i have the drivvers installed for something atall?
[04:45] <yggdrasil> ok cool
[04:45] <froop> anyone know why i would get a blank screen after the bios screen after installing updates ?
[04:45] <imsai> LjL: i will remove iscan, install epkowa from ubuntu instead
[04:45] <LjL> imsai: hm, i think you'd better try with the standard ubuntu stuff - which still has epkowa in it itself (it's in the libsane-extras package)
[04:46] <LjL> imsai: suggest a sudo apt-get --reinstall install libsane-extras
[04:46] <definity> is there a way to find out if i have the drivvers installed for something atall?
[04:46] <yggdrasil> i guesse ill kill this win part and the dell stuf
[04:46] <satempler> yggdrasil: you can also install it but I wouldn't mess with system partitions on a live file system
[04:46] <imsai> LjL: yeah, thx for the tip!
[04:46] <}btorch{> kind of amazes me that there is no chkconfig on ubuntu .... how can I tell what should be started up .. got create the rc links
[04:47] <yggdrasil> cool ill see what i can do with it. i dont have the live cd so might take me a while
[04:47] <wheels3572> satempler: you said it will be on the boot cd was that talking to me?
[04:47] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: are you still here?
[04:47] <satempler> wheels3572: no I was talking to yggdrasil
[04:47] <wheels3572> satempler:  ok sorry
[04:47] <satempler> np
[04:47] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: not for long, any luck?
[04:48] <Deanodriver> i've installed mozilla-acroread, but how do i get it loading in that, rather than loading up a separate acroread?
[04:49] <Deanodriver> shall i try uninstalling and reinstalling acroread again?
[04:49] <definity> is there a way to find out if i have the drivvers installed for something atall?
[04:49] <oezguer> hi
[04:50] <oezguer> help: i cant see wmv video at Vlc :(  any package codes?
[04:50] <ndlovu> can anyone tell me what the "user" option does in fstab?
[04:51] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  lets the user mount the drive,, or sets it owned by that specific user. check 'man fstab'
[04:51] <satempler> oezguer: you can add the PFL repos
[04:51] <satempler> !plf
[04:51] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[04:51] <oezguer> plf?how?
[04:51] <oezguer> thanx
[04:51] <JoNTYDoG> Hi all anyone got a skystar 2 pci card installed and running who can help a n00b?
[04:52] <satempler> np
[04:52] <ndlovu> thanks dr_willis. according to 'man fstab', it will allow the user to mount; do you know if there's some way to use this option together with a credentials file that only has root permissions?
[04:53] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  credentials file?
[04:53] <androide> hello, which is the root password on ubuntu livecd?
[04:53] <user-land> is there a way to see the transfer speed during copy ?
[04:53] <kindor> userland; no
[04:53] <kindor> userland: you could monitor the file it's writing
[04:54] <user-land> thanks, kandor.
[04:54] <yggdrasil> satempler that worked niceley
[04:54] <dr_willis> android there is none. you can go to the console and just do 'sudo -s'
[04:54] <dr_willis> android i think.
[04:54] <satempler> cool
[04:54] <ndlovu> dr_willis, sorry - the credentials file allows you to protect your username and password by saving it in a separate file that can only be read by root. That way an ordinary user couldn't read the /etc/fstab and know your access details.
[04:54] <Krhis> sudo -i :P
[04:54] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: no luck
[04:54] <P1N3R> we got into windows xp setup to do a fixmbr
[04:54] <yggdrasil> satempler at least the deleting of the partition and stuff
[04:54] <P1N3R> no luck
[04:54] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  im not that paranoid. :P
[04:54] <Deanodriver> shall i try just uninstalling/reinstalling mozilla-acroread?
[04:54] <satempler> cool
[04:54] <yggdrasil> and rebooting
[04:55] <yggdrasil> yea
[04:55] <yggdrasil> thnks
[04:55] <ndlovu> dr_willis, fair enough, I'm unfortunately trying to configure a multi-user environment so paranoia is sometimes necessary :P
[04:55] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: sorry to hear that probable need to talk to someone with experience in that department
[04:55] <johlin> I am going to reinstall Ubuntu as I want a fresh install. However, I have some files in my home directory I want to keep, can I just move them to a new folder on my home partition and then they will stay there during install? Also, I need to keep my Thunderbird and Firefox profiles, what is the easiest way to do that?
[04:55] <LowLevel> hi
[04:55] <dr_willis> ndlovu,   you could be gettting too paranoid. :)
[04:56] <Pecisk> hi guys, was there anything to run - command, parameter - when I have modified grub?
[04:56] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  this is the firse id ever heard of a credentials file - and ibve been using linux (as a hobbiest/home user) for years.
[04:57] <dr_willis> Pecisk,  you mean you altered the menu.lst in /boot/grub/ ?
[04:57] <ndlovu> dr_willis, so if you are mounting a windows share, you would put your username and password in /etc/fstab?
[04:57] <Pecisk> dr_willis: yep
[04:57] <i10neorg> johlin: Make not of the partition home has mounted (/dev/hda2 for example).  When you reinstall, manually set the partitions and mount points to reflect this.
[04:57] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  I cant recall ever needing to put the password in there for a windows share.  the user option - lets the 'user' use the mount command to mount the share.
[04:58] <i10neorg> johlin: For example, you'll see your /dev/hda2, just make sure it's set to mount under /home.
[04:58] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  It lets what ever user mounts it first.. to be abler to access it.. or theres the uid= and gid= option as well
[04:58] <i10neorg> johlin: YMMV!
[04:58] <ndlovu> dr_willis, hmm... lemme try that
[04:58] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  i think some more reading on mounting/fstab is in order. :P its a very very hmmm.. interesting area to learn about. :)
[04:58] <johlin> i10neorg: what is ymmv? anyway, yeah, I will mount in the same way but I don't know if it gets formatted as default as some mountpoints do.
[04:59] <i10neorg> johlin: Your Millage May Vary :^)
[04:59] <johlin> i10neorg: aah.
[04:59] <i10neorg> johlin: Yeah, I think it will tell you if it's going to reformat, so you should be safe.
[04:59] <yggdrasil> ext3 is like the best choice right ? for a fs ?
[05:00] <sexcopter8000m> when i get updates through update-manager, i still don't get anything under the changes tab, this has been mostly the case since dapper came out. what could be playing up?
[05:00] <JohnRobert> I prefer reiserfs
[05:00] <JohnRobert> it's faster
[05:00] <Wolfman-K> I have an xserver window up and a terminal window...  how do I load the gnome desktop?
[05:00] <yggdrasil> hmm
[05:00] <johlin> i10neorg: oh yeah, now I remember. I'll give it a shot then.
[05:00] <i10neorg> johlin: (in the manual partitioning anyway)
[05:00] <yggdrasil> johnrobert any downside to it?
[05:00] <johlin> i10neorg: of course
[05:00] <JohnRobert> some people think reiser isn't as 'stable' as ext3
[05:00] <mrcoyote> Yep all
[05:00] <yggdrasil> ahh, ill do 3 then ;)
[05:00] <JohnRobert> although in my experience it's as solid as any other fs
[05:01] <JohnRobert> I think the thing is, is that it used to be a bit unstable ages ago
[05:01] <JohnRobert> the fact it's bundled with your kernel says to me it's alright :p
[05:01] <dr_willis> JohnRobert,  from what ive seen.. people ask a Lot more about fixing their problems with reiserfs then the do with ext3.
[05:02] <Dagataka> ubotu wine
[05:02] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:02] <Krhis> I use reiserfs for my / and ext3 for my /home
[05:02] <dr_willis> and for most people they dont gain much by using reiser.
[05:02] <yggdrasil> well it wont format in either for some reason ;)
[05:02] <yggdrasil> haha
[05:02] <oezguer> satempler: i did it , but i cant see video wmv at vlc :(((
[05:02] <JohnRobert> dr_willis, could be they're using an older stock kernel which doesn't have reiser in it and therefore can't mount their root partition
[05:02] <Krhis> I've suggest keep using ext3 for senstive data. :P
[05:02] <JohnRobert> I noticed the diff...my hdd works a lot less with reiser
[05:03] <JohnRobert> (as in doing stuff, not as in 'doesnt work' :p)
[05:03] <oezguer> satempler: i did it , but i cant see video wmv at vlc :((( but with Mplayer, ok (quality is bad :(
[05:03] <Krhis> JohnRobert, reiserfs uses more CPU power to do less HDD writing.
[05:04] <tristanmike> Hi, I have a USB Logitech Rumblepad 2 Joystick, and a program is asking for the "Device" as in /dev/something, but I don't know where to look, can someone please give me a hand? thanx in advance :)
[05:04] <JohnRobert> I'm using a laptop, and I'm sure the hard disk uses more power than the cpu :p
[05:04] <Krhis> But I'd suggest using reiserfs if you have a large ammount of CPU power. Then you'll notice a diffrence.
[05:04] <_chaOS_> haha
[05:04] <Deanodriver> don't worry, i managed to fix it by searching on the forums, thanks
[05:04] <JohnRobert> besides, think about it, the hard disk is going to be a lot slower than the cpu, so total time taken to do a write is reduced
[05:04] <Krhis> Yep.
[05:04] <dr_willis> tristanmike,  /dev/input/js0 normally - if the modules are loaded right
[05:04] <LjL> tristanmike: /dev/input/js0 possibly
[05:05] <JohnRobert> hell, it works for me :p
[05:05] <oezguer> anybody can help me to see wmv at Vlc ???
[05:05] <tristanmike> ahh, "input" is what I think I may have been missing, thank you very much dr_willis and LjL :)
[05:05] <Krhis> Reiser4 is a little too new for me, I'll wait until it's bundled with vinilla kernel.
[05:05] <JohnRobert> why do people even use vlc?
[05:05] <dr_willis> oezguer,  ive found many wmv's that nothing under linux can play
[05:05] <dr_willis> I use vlc all the time.
[05:05] <JohnRobert> mplayer/totem/xine are blatantly the best
[05:05] <ajeeb150> I posted a question on the "install forums" and got no reply... can some help me here?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217799
[05:05] <dr_willis> I find vlc the best for my needs. :)
[05:05] <tristanmike> dr_willis, LjL, that was it, thanx again =)
[05:05] <oggis> ext3 with writeback journal is really a lot faster in my personal experience than reiser3.
[05:06] <Krhis> Some don't like having a window for the controls and one for the video. I personally use a mixture of Xine and mPlayer.
[05:06] <oezguer> dr_willis: it means u cant play wmv at Vlc?  but i can watch wmv`s at Mplayer, but quality is bad :(
[05:06] <ajeeb150> Basically: is there away to install through telnet or VNC as with Fedora? also, si there a way to remote syslog during the install?
[05:06] <oggis> and johnrober, hdd uses lot lesd
[05:06] <Krhis> oggis, what do you loose with writeback? Harder to recover?
[05:06] <oggis> power than the cpu
[05:06] <dr_willis> oezguer,  SOME wmv's i have found. are not playabble.. others are. - it depends on the codec used in the wmv
[05:07] <oggis> sorry for the typos, im typing on a touchscreen
[05:07] <oezguer> dr_willis: but i cant play it at Vlc..   1 weeks ago i could, but i installed dapper again, and now no more:(
[05:07] <johlin> How can I backup my Firefox and Thunderbird profiles?
[05:07] <oezguer> dr_willis: but i could it same wmv video 2 weeks ago, it was wonderful, but now nooo :(
[05:07] <dr_willis> oezguer,  sounds like a codec issue then
[05:07] <oggis> krhis: yep (slower to recover that is)
[05:08] <oezguer> yess
[05:08] <sri_> can any one tell about the diff between tar,tar.gz,tar.bz2
[05:08] <oezguer> dr_willis: which code do i need? can u give me some codes, i install a lot ofs
[05:09] <ajeeb150> sri_: tar is an archive of a lot of files a dirs.... when that file is gzipped ist a tar.gz or .tgz  when bzip2'ed it s called tar.bz2 .. just names...
[05:09] <MarcN> sri_: tar == (tape) archive, ie bunch of files.  tar.gz == compressed version using gzip, tar.bz2 == compressed with a different (better compressing, slower running) bzip2
[05:09] <i10neorg> sri_: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive_formats>
[05:10] <oezguer> dr_willis: or do i have to restart pc?
[05:10] <sri_> MarcN, thak u
[05:10] <sri_> ajeeb150, thank u
[05:12] <froop> anyone know why i would get a blank screen just after the bios screen after installing updates ?
[05:12] <dr_willis> oezguer,  i tend to get the latest w32codec packages from the mplayer homepage.
[05:12] <oezguer> oki
[05:12] <dr_willis> oezguer,  and you dont need to reboot just for codecs - thats 'windows mentality' :)
[05:13] <oezguer> oki:)))))))))))
[05:13] <Lord_Athur> I was trying to validate my OpenPGP key, the launchpad page says that I'd have to descrypt a msn with my key in order to validate, how do I do it?
[05:14] <Cntryboy> how do you totally remove a program and all the contents of it? I've tried sudo dpkg --remove (file.deb) and then reinstalled it and it still has my options saved.. I want a fresh install because of bugs in preference of setting it up.
[05:14] <Seveas> Cntryboy, --purge instead of --remove
[05:14] <LjL> Cntryboy: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename, or sudo aptitude purge packagename
[05:14] <Cntryboy> kk thx gang
[05:15] <LjL> Cntryboy: and the config files in your home dir will remain there anyway. gotta remove them manually
[05:15] <yggdrasil> i have 2 swap partitions, how do i disable one, i want to delete it
[05:15] <facugaich> and the programs compiled by you? those are just scattered files, you can never totally uninstall them?
[05:15] <facugaich> yggdrasil: gparted
[05:15] <Shak-> is it possible to create 'profiles' to use with iwconfig? e.g. if I go to mode monitor I lose my current network settings, then have to go back to mode managed and enter them all manually again
[05:15] <yggdrasil> hah ok
[05:16] <facugaich> yggdrasil: wait
[05:16] <yggdrasil> i just did it with cfdisk
[05:17] <facugaich> yggdrasil: you can disable partition through System -> Administrative (or something like that, second row) ->Drives or Hard Drives. I don't have ubuntu in english
[05:17] <yggdrasil> hm.. ahh its cool i just did it in cfdisk and then it took care of itself
[05:17] <yggdrasil> thanks
[05:18] <facugaich> yggdrasil: that just disabled, gparted to erase
[05:18] <yggdrasil> ok
[05:18] <Cntryboy> LjL: Now i'm trying to install it again by sudo dkpg --install file.deb and it's giving me errors now ?
[05:19] <bignath> Can anyone give me a little help I downloaded Ubuntu last night installed it but the only thing I cant get is an Internet connection. When I plug into the company ethernet it seems to be communicating and I can get network information but no Internet access. Help Please!!
[05:19] <JoNTYDoG> can anyone help with a skystar 2 dvb card?
[05:19] <LjL> Cntryboy: why are you using dpkg manually?
[05:20] <rsk> bignath, do you have wlan or 2 ethernet cards?
[05:20] <bignath> Wlan and 1 ethernet
[05:20] <Cntryboy> LjL: well I tried to run it from desktop icon of the .deb also, it installed but it still has my saved preferences
[05:20] <MarcN> bignath: corporate firewall problem?  Can you ping local hosts?
[05:20] <LjL> Cntryboy: what package is it? isn't it in the repositories?
[05:21] <Cntryboy> ljl: xvidcap
[05:21] <Cntryboy> no I downloaded the .deb manually on desktop
[05:21] <imsai> LjL: there is no 'modules.conf' in ubuntu ? is it /etc/modules i should edit in this case ?
[05:21] <LjL> Cntryboy: try using gdebi
[05:21] <Cntryboy> ljl: care to give me example please
[05:21] <_marshall> hey guys
[05:21] <_marshall> any ekiga users here?
[05:21] <bignath> I am not sure. I can get the local machines up on the network connection screen
[05:22] <LjL> imsai: know what, i don't really know. i've got most of my hardware of my debian box, and i've almost never manually touched modules and such on ubuntu
[05:22] <LjL> Cntryboy: install the "gdebi" package, and use "gdebi" to install that .deb file
[05:22] <bignath> but the data comes through very slow
[05:22] <jpjacobs> _marshall, made an account , never used it though
[05:22] <imsai> LjL: okey! yhx
[05:22] <Cntryboy> what does gdebi do?
[05:22] <imsai> LjL: thx ! ;)
[05:23] <bignath> When I plug in with windows I have no prob but I really want to get a version of linux working
[05:23] <P1N3R> is Ubuntu live cd supposed to detect windows xp is there?
[05:24] <P1N3R> when i install
[05:24] <LjL> P1N3R: yeah
[05:24] <rsk> P1N3R, yeah at least the partition
[05:24] <P1N3R> well
[05:24] <Cntryboy> ljl: back stupid dialup
[05:24] <P1N3R> it detects the partition
[05:24] <LjL> Cntryboy: gdebi installs while considering dependencies too, so you should not get dependency errors
[05:24] <P1N3R> but it doesnt load grub
[05:24] <Bartsk8> I've correctly installed fglrx but mesa3d il always here when I have a fglrxinfo... can sbd help me ?
[05:24] <P1N3R> it just boots straight into Windowd
[05:24] <P1N3R> it just boots straight into Windows
[05:24] <LjL> Cntryboy: besides, i see that xvidcap is a screen recorder program. perhaps you could consider using istanbul? (apt-cache show istanbul)
[05:24] <Cntryboy> ljl: anyways it was working okay last night, but I tried changing frames/sec and thats when it got buggy, so i'm wanting to totally reinstall it, but I want fresh default install not where it loads my settings.
[05:25] <Cntryboy> ljl: istanbul totally suxorz
[05:25] <Cntryboy> :( ive tried it yesterday
[05:25] <amarokker> Is there any applet for gnome-panel that allows you to see the time world timezones? I think there's one for kde.
[05:25] <LjL> Cntryboy: if the settings are saved to your home dir, your only option is removing them manually
[05:25] <LjL> Cntryboy: if they are in /etc, the purge will remove them
[05:26] <Cntryboy> well I check in home dir under .xvidcap
[05:26] <Cntryboy> nothing was in there
[05:26] <billybennett> Do I need special software to burn dual layer?
[05:26] <rsk> billybennett, yeah software that can do that, for ex nerolinux or k3b
[05:26] <LjL> Cntryboy: "strace -e trace=open xvidcap", see what files it tries to load at startup
[05:27] <billybennett> sweet thanks rsk
[05:27] <P1N3R> is there any way i can make it see windows xp is there
[05:27] <Bartsk8> I've correctly installed fglrx but mesa3d il always here when I have a fglrxinfo... can sbd help me ?
[05:27] <P1N3R> so it loads into Ubuntu?
[05:27] <[1] astro> i have an ubuntu 6.06 system at my office.  someone set a root password and forgot it.  i tried going in single-user via grub, but runlevel 1 is prompting me for the root password.  is there a way to reset it without mounting the drive from an external source?
[05:27] <Cntryboy> ljl: after I install it try strace?
[05:27] <LjL> P1N3R: wait, you mean the *live cd* boots into windows, or after *installing* linux on the HD from the live cd it boots into windows?
[05:28] <LjL> Cntryboy: yeah
[05:28] <LjL> Cntryboy: so you can see where it's taking its config files from
[05:28] <iridium> Ubunu 6.06, booting from livecd. partitioning disks, installing. Rebooting, partitioned disks not found when booting from the hard-drive. Livecd can't find them either. fdisk lists the partitions correctly, however ls /dev/sd* only lists /dev/sda (not /dev/sda1, the partition I made).
[05:28] <P1N3R> LjL
[05:28] <P1N3R> LjL: yes it does that
[05:28] <P1N3R> after installing on HDS
[05:28] <P1N3R> HD
[05:28] <ScislaC> is there a trick to get drives to mount from dapper when it's live? I need to modify my xorg.conf on my install (my default res isn't supported by this monitor), but it won't let me mount the drive I need from the live cd.
[05:28] <iridium> As such, I can't mount /dev/sda1. If, however, I run gparted and reformat, the disk works fine
[05:28] <LjL> !tell P1N3R about grub
[05:29] <iridium> until I reboot, at which point it doesn't work again
[05:29] <P1N3R> LjL: i cant get any of those working
[05:29] <Cntryboy> ljl: thats a hugeeeee list lol
[05:29] <LjL> P1N3R: can you boot into your installed Ubuntu from the live cd?
[05:29] <Bartsk8> I've correctly installed fglrx but mesa3d il always here when I have a fglrxinfo... can sbd help me ?
[05:30] <P1N3R> i didnt even know i could do it
[05:30] <LjL> Cntryboy: yeah well, take some guesses. files that are called "somethingrc", or "something.conf", etc are probably config files
[05:30] <bignath> Anyone know how to use Nokia 6680 to connect via USB to the net?
[05:30] <Cntryboy> k
[05:30] <LjL> P1N3R: there is an option to boot from HD in the Live CD boot menu. it'll probably still boot into windows though
[05:30] <LjL> P1N3R: otherwise you can tell the live cd to boot into linux by typing kernel parameters
[05:30] <Bartsk8> I've correctly installed fglrx but mesa3d il always here when I have a fglrxinfo... can sbd help me ?
[05:31] <P1N3R> yes it does LjL
[05:31] <LjL> P1N3R: i dont quite remember the syntax tho
[05:31] <sproingie> Bartsk8: i didn't understand your question
[05:31] <[1] astro> i have an ubuntu 6.06 system at my office.  someone set a root password and forgot it.  i tried going in single-user via grub, but runlevel 1 is prompting me for the root password.  is there a way to reset it without mounting the drive from an external source?
[05:31] <LjL> P1N3R: or, from the live cd, mount your linux partition somewhere (let's say it's in /mnt/linuxpartition), then try "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/linuxpartition /dev/hda", assuming your HD is called /dev/hda
[05:31] <Cntryboy> ljl: if I pasted this on pastbin u think u could make heads or tails of it?
[05:31] <LjL> Cntryboy: perhaps
[05:32] <stefg> [1] astro: you could try to boot from live-CD, get a root shell there, mount the system and chroot into it. thenn passwd root will let you set a new one
[05:32] <P1N3R> it wont allow me to mount it on the live cd LjL
[05:32] <tristanmike> anyone have any experience with the ePSXe ?
[05:32] <LjL> P1N3R: oh? like what kind of errors?
[05:32] <Bartsk8> I'm french... Huum. i've installed the drivers fglrx for radeon, but 3d acceleration is not enabled. and when i have a fglrx info in a prompt it says me about mesa3d instead of ati
[05:32] <Skaag> what's that?
[05:32] <_marshall> does anybody know about mounting ntfs drives?
[05:32] <iridium> did anyone manage to read my problem or did it disappear into the aether?
[05:32] <LjL> !tell _marshall about ntfs
[05:32] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:32] <facugaich> tristanmike: it's a pain to get it working
[05:32] <Tomatix> which libraries do I need to build a Qt application?
[05:32] <P1N3R> it says 'cannot mount'
[05:32] <LjL> Tomatix: libqt3-mt-dev
[05:33] <_marshall> LjL: thanks mang
[05:33] <Skaag> tristanmike: what's ePSXe?
[05:33] <_marshall> are there any ekiga users here?
[05:33] <tristanmike> facugaich: I've got it working, more or less, some minor things are going on
[05:33] <sproingie> Bartsk8: your english is certainly better than my french.  that's ok, you should see mesa3d.  what does it say when you do glxinfo | grep direct
[05:33] <facugaich> tristanmike: wait, ePSXe == PSxEmulator right?
[05:33] <tristanmike> Skaag: it's a Playstaion emulator
[05:33] <Skaag> nice
[05:33] <dr_willis> ePSXe - playstation 1 emulator.
[05:33] <Cntryboy> ljl: http://pastebin.ca/91360 if ya don't mind
[05:33] <dr_willis> it works very well last i used it.
[05:33] <_marshall> Skaag: its a playstation 1 emulator
[05:33] <Skaag> sounds nice
[05:33] <stefg> [1] astro: the more dangerous option 2 would be to boot from CD, mount the locked system and delete the line starting with 'root' from /etc/shadow
[05:33] <NthDegree> PSx Means Playstation 1 and 2
[05:33] <LjL> P1N3R: err you aren't trying to mount /dev/hda right? you've got to mount the correct partition, like say /dev/hda2
[05:33] <troozers> anyone an expert on smb mounting with autofs, as google is not helping much :(
[05:34] <tristanmike> dr_willis: it works nice here, but when I exit, I loose control of the terminal and sometime it locks my system up completely
[05:34] <_marshall> NthDegree: you mena it will do ps2 too?
[05:34] <Hoovey> PS2 = lam0r
[05:34] <tristanmike> _marshall: no, psx only
[05:34] <NthDegree> PSX means 1 and 2
[05:34] <stefg> !offtopic
[05:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:34] <carthik_> If I set an expiration date on my gpg key - will I be able to renew the key later, or will I hae to create a new key later?
[05:34] <iridium> okay, since I got no response, I'm going to guess it disappeared into the aether.
[05:34] <m1ckeyknox> okay... I see theat there is a package for phpmyadmin for ubuntu: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/web/phpmyadmin ... how do I install that... apt-get install ? I can't seem to find it with apt-cache search
[05:34] <P1N3R> LjL, as far as i know, i am mounting the '/' partition
[05:34] <tristanmike> NthDegree: no, it means PS1
[05:34] <iridium> Is there a good place to get help where my message might be heard?
[05:34] <IseeIsee> earlier I downloaded the bin file of jdk, and now I just installed it through the terminal. where is it installed ? how can I access it ?
[05:34] <facugaich> NthDegree: aren't PsXs the ones that are smaller?
[05:35] <_marshall> tristanmike: NthDegree: yeah im pretty sure psx means ps1
[05:35] <LjL> P1N3R: then i suppose something went seriously wrong, if you cannot mount the root partition
[05:35] <tristanmike> they started to market as the PSX when the released the mini one
[05:35] <P1N3R> i live?
[05:35] <P1N3R> in
[05:35] <dr_willis> IseeIsee,  try 'java --version'
[05:35] <P1N3R> i will try again
[05:35] <rowanjl> I need to check that a lib was installed, everything says it is, but I'm trying to build a program that needs it and configure can't find it... how can I find it, if it is actually installed?
[05:35] <_marshall> facugaich: ps ones are the small psxs
[05:35] <P1N3R> thanks for the help :)
[05:35] <stefg> NthDegree, _marshall , would it be asked too much to tkae that to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:35] <sproingie> rowanjl: ldconfig | grep libname
[05:35] <LjL> Cntryboy: what about /home/cd/.xvidcaprc ?
[05:35] <NthDegree> PSX refers to the games that run on both consoles now lets go to ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:35] <facugaich> NthDegree: _marshall: tristanmike: k, enough off-topic me thinks ;)
[05:36] <Cntryboy> thats where i'm trying to get now, I have to enable compiz because xgl pause lags me
[05:36] <Cntryboy> js
[05:36] <_marshall> stefg: lol no, we're done
[05:36] <rowanjl> sproingie: if I get no output, thats bad right?
[05:36] <user-land> can i change partition labels with fdisk ?
[05:36] <tristanmike> I was off at my last comment facugaich, and anyway, I want support darnnit ! :P, just kidding
[05:36] <jazzanova> hi
[05:36] <sproingie> rowanjl: means that library isn't on your standard library path
[05:36] <Bartsk8> sproingie => Check your PVs
[05:36] <jazzanova> i have gam_server eating up cpu
[05:36] <jazzanova> 99%
[05:36] <sproingie> rowanjl: you could try locate libname
[05:36] <jazzanova> what can i do ?
[05:36] <rowanjl> ok
[05:36] <Alex0r> If I just make a new partition with ubuntu's partitioner, will it erase any data on my C:\ partition?
[05:36] <_marshall> so are there any ekiga users int he house?
[05:37] <Skaag> remind me what ekiga is?
[05:37] <Skaag> that powerpoint clone?
[05:37] <sproingie> Skaag: voip thing
[05:37] <LjL> Alex0r: not if you tell it not to when asked by the installer
[05:37] <Skaag> ah
[05:37] <jbroome> Skaag: gnomemeeting with a new name
[05:37] <Skaag> sounds cool, installing
[05:37] <LoneShadow> sip video ?
[05:37] <Alex0r> Er, that makes no sence
[05:37] <Alex0r> So
[05:37] <sproingie> jbroome: gnomemeeting was too obvious
[05:37] <tristanmike> Skaag: it's in the default installation of Dapper
[05:37] <Alex0r> It wont touch my C:\ drive
[05:37] <Cntryboy> ljl: deleted that let me c now
[05:37] <Alex0r> Partition*
[05:37] <rowanjl> sproingie: everything that turned up was in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ or /usr/share/doc/
[05:37] <m1ckeyknox> okay... I see theat there is a package for phpmyadmin for ubuntu: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/web/phpmyadmin ... how do I install that... apt-get install ? I can't seem to find it with apt-cache search
[05:37] <rowanjl> I guess that means its not installed correctly or something
[05:38] <sproingie> jbroome: i'm thinking of renaming my "message viewer" app to "krupugla".
[05:38] <LjL> !info phpmyadmin
[05:38] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In repository universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 3516 kB, installed size 13724 kB
[05:38] <LjL> m1ckeyknox: you need to enable universe
[05:38] <LjL> !tell m1ckeyknox about universe
[05:38] <Zenobia> Could someone please help me setting up my wireless? I got a Cayman 3347w router and my card is recognised, I just can't find the right settings. Thanks a lot in advance
[05:38] <sproingie> rowanjl: sounds like it's not installed.  try reinstalling the library if you know you installed it
[05:38] <_marshall> LoneShadow: yeah it has video
[05:38] <rowanjl> sproingie: already done that :/
[05:39] <LoneShadow> I will be installing some sip video app soon :D
[05:39] <sproingie> rowanjl: to make things easier here, what's the library you're looking for?
[05:39] <rowanjl> libdevil
[05:39] <LoneShadow> _marshall: so are you using ekiga ?
[05:39] <IseeIsee> dr_willis: I typed java --vesion and it says java version 1.4.2 but I installed java 5 update 7
[05:39] <m1ckeyknox> LjL: how do I enable universe?
[05:39] <IseeIsee> also where has it installed it, I want to know the directory
[05:39] <LoneShadow> !apt
[05:39] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:39] <_marshall> LoneShadow: yeah i want to try it out
[05:39] <NthDegree> mickeyknox on synaptic
[05:40] <sproingie> rowanjl: what's dpkg -l | grep devil show you?
[05:40] <trappist> IseeIsee: one is the version of the language, and one is the version of the jvm
[05:40] <kilai> I've been wanting to install linux for years but never really bothered, I tried the Ubuntu live cd the other day and Now I'm definatly gonna install it
[05:40] <IseeIsee> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[05:40] <kilai> when I boot off the live cd and click the installation button on the desktop, where will it install linux to? I have a 200gb hd with several partitions
[05:40] <NthDegree> it's on one of the menus, it's called repositories
[05:40] <facugaich> kilai: congrats
[05:40] <Zenobia> mickey : uncomment the universe lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Delete the # signs
[05:40] <IseeIsee> sorry wrong
[05:40] <IseeIsee> java version "1.4.2"
[05:40] <IseeIsee> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[05:40] <amarokker> Peopl, can i get some help here? i've been searching through gnomefiles.org - cant find an applet that will allow me to see multiple time zones- preferably a graphical applet instead of a textual one
[05:40] <NthDegree> kilai, it will load an installer and you can choose I believe
[05:40] <Bartsk8> sproingie => Check your PVs
[05:40] <Cntryboy> ljl: I still get You selected an unknown or invalid file format for multi-frame capture. Check the --format-help option." and i'm not even changing anything lol, just when I look in preferences
[05:40] <LoneShadow> _marshall: I am building an embedded system with ubuntu breezy, will be adding some video conferencing app, hopefully sip one
[05:41] <rowanjl> sproingie: ii  libdevil-dev and ii  libdevil1c2
[05:41] <_marshall> LoneShadow: cool. ekiga looks pretty solid
[05:41] <facugaich> kilai: is will ask for an  empty existing partition, to shrink and used one, or you can manually edit the partition table
[05:41] <_marshall> LoneShadow: i jsut havent made any calls because i dont know anybody with sip
[05:41] <stinkball> has anyone gotten tuxguardian to compile and work on ubuntu?
[05:41] <LoneShadow> finally got my whole system as a read only fs, was a little pain to figure out making /var and /dev as rw
[05:41] <_marshall> LoneShadow: why breezy? what kind of embedded system?
[05:42] <Zenobia> Could someone please help me setting up my wireless? I got a Cayman 3347w router and my card is recognised, I just can't find the right settings. Thanks a lot in advance
[05:42] <LoneShadow> using msntv box, yes MSN :P, but the intel video driver is meant for 6.8 Xorg
[05:42] <LoneShadow> need to try if it works 7.0 Xorg
[05:42] <LoneShadow> on*
[05:42] <_marshall> LoneShadow: lol
[05:42] <IseeIsee> dr_willis: I posted above
[05:43] <Skaag> ok I have Ekiga installed
[05:43] <_marshall> LoneShadow: call me on my sip, i wanna see if it works
[05:43] <hmrocha> hello
[05:43] <Skaag> what's the difference between V4L and V4L2?
[05:43] <LoneShadow> hmm
[05:43] <hmrocha> how can i delete an entry in gconf-editor?
[05:43] <LoneShadow> using ekiga ?
[05:43] <hmrocha> i want to delete apps/evolution
[05:43] <_marshall> Skaag: i dont know
[05:43] <hmrocha> but i can't! :(
[05:43] <Wodger> seems to be depedecncys
[05:43] <_marshall> LoneShadow: yeah
[05:43] <LoneShadow> not gonna happen soon :D
[05:44] <facugaich> hmrocha: did you try synaptic?
[05:44] <wheels351972> I am having a ton of problems can someone help me on the side please?
[05:44] <hmrocha> facugaich: i don't want to delete evolution
[05:44] <_marshall> LoneShadow: marshall.ent@ekiga.net i think should do the trick
[05:44] <LoneShadow> I still need to get the video driver for Logitech Quickam 4000 pro working, and have to see if the webcam' Mike would work
[05:44] <hmrocha> facugaich: i just want to delete the configurations
[05:44] <Skaag> LoneShadow: My Quickcam Pro 4000 works ok with ekiga
[05:44] <_marshall> LoneShadow: ok
[05:44] <hmrocha> facugaich: evolution stores the configurations in apps/evolution entry in gconf
[05:44] <Skaag> LoneShadow: Looks good
[05:45] <facugaich> hmrocha: purge it and then re-install?
[05:45] <_marshall> Skaag: give me a call skaag
[05:45] <Skaag> give me your sip URL
[05:45] <LoneShadow> Skaag: can you tell me which module is being used for your quickcam pro 4k ?
[05:45] <_marshall> Skaag: marshall.ent@ekiga.net
[05:45] <rowanjl> sproingie: thats what I should see right?
[05:45] <Skaag> ok sec
[05:45] <LoneShadow> I have a base system, installed only packages I needed
[05:45] <_marshall> LoneShadow: o
[05:45] <hmrocha> facugaich: that's stupid, each user should delete his configurations
[05:46] <Fracture> anyone here use reiserfs 4 ?
[05:46] <hmrocha> facugaich: he may not even have permissions to delete the program
[05:46] <zF> I have a general Linux question, but use Ubuntu - what program can I use to screen capture a .gif from a .avi video file?
[05:46] <wheels351972> How do I get my name back on IRC here it's saying it's in use
[05:46] <hmrocha> facugaich: uninstall the program i mean
[05:47] <facugaich> hmrocha: well, then I don't know, sry
[05:47] <LoneShadow> zF search for screen capture programs for linux on google, you will your answer
[05:47] <m1ckeyknox> Zenobia: thanks.
[05:47] <LoneShadow> most used packages are available for ubuntu
[05:47] <facugaich> wheels351972: is your nick registered?
[05:47] <wheels351972> Yes
[05:47] <Zenobia> m1ckeyknox : no problem :)
[05:47] <wheels351972> facugaich yes it is
[05:47] <Wodger> probably a ghost
[05:47] <v33> hi, I just installed kubuntu 6.06 on my thinkpad t21 but x won't load... It worked fine out of the box with ubuntu 5.10
[05:47] <Wodger> kill the ghost
[05:47] <v33> Is there any known changes or problems with x.org?
[05:48] <wheels351972> WodgerHow?
[05:48] <gdb> !ghost
[05:48] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[05:48] <Skaag> _marshall: You see my chat window?
[05:48] <facugaich> wheels351972: /msg nickserv RECOVER
[05:48] <[1] astro> ok where is the LIVE CD?
[05:48] <IseeIsee> I downloaded the JDK  as bin file from sun website and installed it using terimal by just doing sudo ./filename.bin   now I wanna know where is it installed, I did java -version but it still shows the old version
[05:48] <johlin> I'm going to reinstall now but leave my home partion with my files, should I keep the folder the same name and then when I've reinstalled just create a user with that name and then everything'll work out, or should I rename the folder to something else and then move them to my home directory?
[05:48] <gdb> !ghost > wheels351972
[05:48] <[1] astro> i just see desktop, server, and alternate
[05:48] <_marshall> Skaag: yeah, but every time i type something it says error: user not found
[05:48] <Wodger> ubuntu live cd is the desktop
[05:48] <facugaich> wheels351972: /msg nickserv RECOVER <nick> <pass>
[05:48] <_marshall> Skaag: can you hear me?
[05:49] <[1] astro> how do i boot it into 'live mode'?
[05:49] <Skaag> ah sorry, I need to approve my account, sec.
[05:49] <Skaag> I need to close and open ekiga, brb
[05:49] <[1] astro> i only see options for regular installations
[05:49] <_marshall> Skaag: ok
[05:49] <[1] astro> asks me for hostname, partitioning, etc
[05:49] <void^> zF: use mplayer with option -vf screenshot (and press s anytime)
[05:49] <Wodger> make4 sure cd is before harddrive in boot order
[05:49] <maintenance> hi all
[05:49] <[1] astro> it is booting off of the cdrom
[05:49] <LoneShadow> Skaag: any idea which module is being used for your webcam ?
[05:49] <[1] astro> my options are install, lamp, rescue, boot from hdd, etc
[05:49] <skavenge> [1] astro: on the dapper cd, it asks, 'boot livecd and/or install' .. you have to load the livecd to install at all
[05:49] <moonstone> i need help about recording with sblive
[05:49] <IseeIsee> java version "1.4.2"
[05:49] <IseeIsee> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[05:49] <Skaag> LoneShadow: checking
[05:49] <_marshall> does anybody know if skype uses SIP?
[05:49] <LoneShadow> ok :)
[05:50] <Wodger> then it should just boot into the live
[05:50] <IseeIsee> I downloaded the JDK  as bin file from sun website and installed it using terimal by just doing sudo ./filename.bin   now I wanna know where is it installed, I did java -version but it still shows the old version
[05:50] <wheels3572> Thanks that worked I got myname back :) now for my Mess of issues
[05:50] <LoneShadow> _marshall: proprierty sip
[05:50] <carlos> _marshall: no, it doesn't
[05:50] <[1] astro> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso doesn't have a livecd option, at least on my system
[05:50] <ironfroggy> i tried a 'apt-cdrom add' and now a bunch of packages are no long available. what can i do to remedy this situation?
[05:50] <[1] astro> this is bizarre
[05:50] <_marshall> LoneShadow: so i couldnt use that sip account with anything but skype?
[05:50] <void^> !java > IseeIsee
[05:50] <gdb> IseeIsee: Because you failed to read any documentation whatsoever, including the stuff the Java JDK installer prints for you and forces you to say "yes" to during the installation.
[05:50] <stefg> [1] astro: how much ram does the box have?
[05:50] <Cntryboy> ehh xvidcap suxorz also
[05:50] <wheels3572> I wanna test out a theory I wanna delete my Windows I have on the system how do I go about doing this as my backup drive is now my C: lol and my Windows drive which I am currently on is my F:
[05:50] <LoneShadow> yes, works only from skype to skype
[05:50] <[1] astro> 256MB
[05:50] <tristanmike> Is there anyway to mount or convert a "*.ccd" file ?
[05:51] <sri_> ironfroggy, what is u r prob
[05:51] <Cntryboy> anyone know of a GOOOOD working video capture program for linux?
[05:51] <skavenge> [1] astro: right at the grub menu, it asks, 'boot livecd/install' i just used the desktop one i know its there, first option on the menu
[05:51] <gdb> IseeIsee: Type "ls" at the prompt and be enlightened.
[05:51] <rsk> Cntryboy, xvidcap
[05:51] <tristanmike> Cntryboy: xvidcap is nice
[05:51] <ironfroggy> sri_: what?
[05:51] <void^> tristanmike: ccd2iso, probably not in repos though
[05:51] <[1] astro> this must have been a server iso
[05:51] <LoneShadow> they will getting the jabber module soon, you should be able to talk to googletalk, I think they already got msn messenger working
[05:51] <Cntryboy> xvidcap gives me unexpected closings and prefer errors
[05:51] <[1] astro> that's the only thing i can think of
[05:51] <rowanjl> Cntryboy: the Gimp
[05:51] <facugaich> wheels3572: erase the partition?
[05:51] <tristanmike> void^: you da man (or woman :P)!
[05:51] <Cntryboy> not nice to me lol
[05:51] <Cntryboy> gimp I thought was paint program
[05:51] <wheels3572> facugaich Yes thats'w hat I wanna do cuz I CANT install Ubuntu
[05:51] <stefg> [1] astro: just boot it... the 'desktop'-Cd means it'll boot up a live CD (which is used then for installing)
[05:51] <skavenge> [1] astro: if it is then your right there wouldnt be a livecd option
[05:51] <wheels3572> it freezes EVERY time
[05:52] <IseeIsee> gdb: ok I did ls so what ?
[05:52] <facugaich> wheels3572: the you could use gparted from the Live CD
[05:52] <skavenge> or its the alternate which doesnt have livecd on it either
[05:52] <rowanjl> Cntryboy: it is, but its good for taking screenshots, but not video
[05:52] <Skaag> ok marshall you ready?
[05:52] <m1ckeyknox> Zenobia: k... after uncommenting... what next?
[05:52] <_marshall> Skaag: yeah, ill call you this time
[05:52] <facugaich> wheels3572: I guess it can erase a partition even if its NTFS
[05:52] <gdb> IseeIsee: Read what was printed on the screen.
[05:52] <_marshall> Skaag: its skaag@ekiga.net right?
[05:52] <Skaag> yes
[05:53] <wheels3572> facugaich:  How do I access the gpart from the live partition?
[05:53] <_marshall> it says ur offline
[05:53] <Skaag> LoneShadow: I think the module is pwc
[05:53] <wheels3572> facugaich: I mean the live CD
[05:53] <LoneShadow> ok
[05:53] <facugaich> wheels3572: Live CD you mean? it should bt in Applications
[05:53] <IseeIsee> ok fine: no one reads that crap
[05:53] <LoneShadow> installing pwc now :D
[05:53] <LoneShadow> brb
[05:53] <IseeIsee> gdb: whats the solution if you have answer to my question
[05:53] <_marshall> Skaag: it says ur offline
[05:54] <benny_> hello :)
[05:54] <benny_> it's me again
[05:54] <gdb> IseeIsee: What do you think is in the new directory there called jdk1.5.0_07 ?
[05:54] <benny_> I've got a problem with fglrx :(
[05:54] <IseeIsee> gdb: damit thats what I'm asking where is this new directory ?
[05:54] <wheels3572> facugaich: Well I have an issue with that too I cant get into Linux with the live cd it wont let me boot to it
[05:54] <Skaag> _marshall: try now please, I was offline indeed
[05:54] <LoneShadow> Skaag: can you do "dpkg -l|grep pwc"
[05:54] <gdb> IseeIsee: It's created in the directory as the .bin file you ran to extract it.
[05:54] <gdb> IseeIsee: hence running "ls" to see it.
[05:55] <Cntryboy> yah I want something for video, I've tried instanbul and xvidcap both doesn't work worth a hoot for me.
[05:55] <gdb> same directory as*
[05:55] <IseeIsee> gdb: that is insane, in windows it asks you where to install it
[05:55] <gdb> IseeIsee: How is it insane?
[05:55] <facugaich> wheels3572: mmm, I guess you could try to fix that problem or find another way of erasing partitions
[05:55] <definity> how do i change the transmitting power of my wireless card
[05:55] <definity> is there a way?
[05:55] <Skaag> LoneShadow: Did it, no results
[05:55] <LoneShadow> ok
[05:55] <m1ckeyknox> how do I install packages from universe?
[05:55] <LoneShadow> so the kernel is patched
[05:55] <skavenge> in linux it gets installed where it knows it needs to go, its no 'install wizard'
[05:56] <benny_> si there a xorg error reference ??
[05:56] <gdb> IseeIsee: Anyway, if you'd like to "properly" install it, move that jdk directory to /opt or /usr/local (I prefer /opt) and set up appropriate symlinks / PATH variables.
[05:56] <_marshall> Skaag: lol
[05:56] <_marshall> Skaag: wicked
[05:56] <Skaag> _marshall: Amazingly, it works real fine!
[05:56] <skavenge> m1ckeyknox: enable the universe repository, see ubotu's link ->
[05:56] <skavenge> !universe
[05:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:56] <Cntryboy> m1ckeyknox: from knoxville?
[05:56] <_marshall> Skaag: how was the audio for you?
[05:56] <Skaag> I'm also amazed at how Ubuntu just found my logitech USB headset!
[05:56] <wheels3572> facugaich:  How can I go about installing from Live CD any ideas.  I am sooooo frustrated with it right now.  Any sure way of installing without errors?
[05:56] <_marshall> Skaag: lol yeah
[05:56] <IseeIsee> gdb: is there a tutorial on that on the web, I could'nt find any
[05:56] <slavezero> i am having a problem with the networking on my demo machine all of the sudden it was working and now it will not gain an ip from the server nor will it ping when given on. i have reinstalled the OS and problem still there. i think it may have soemthing to with ipv6 my server is not setup to do anything with ipv6. is it possible to remove it from ubuntu?
[05:56] <m1ckeyknox> Cntryboy: nope
[05:56] <Skaag> the audio was ok albeit a tad bit low but that could be volume settings on my side for my headset
[05:56] <gdb> IseeIsee: If you don't mind enabling Universe and Multiverse, you can install the Sun JDK out of Ubuntu repositories, also.
[05:57] <ironfroggy> please, doesnt anyone know how _adding_ a repository could cause me to loose available packages?
[05:57] <m1ckeyknox> ubotu: I have it uncommented in sources.list... now what?
[05:57] <facugaich> wheels3572: you don't need to install, you just boot it, the live CD. There you can use Gparted
[05:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about I have it uncommented in sources.list... now what? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:57] <ironfroggy> it doesnt make sense :-(
[05:57] <skavenge> wheels3572: if your having trouble booting the live cd you might try the alternate cd with text install
[05:57] <skavenge> ironfroggy: impossible
[05:57] <IseeIsee> gdb: I did enable the multiuniverse and then rant the bin file
[05:57] <Skaag> LoneShadow: what version of ubuntu are you running that your QCPro4000 isn't detected automatically? I didn't have to do anything for mine to work...
[05:57] <ironfroggy> skavenge: it happened!
[05:57] <gdb> IseeIsee: For installing the JDK from Sun's site?  I don't believe there is other than the documentation on the page it downloads from.
[05:57] <stefg> m1ckeyknox: once the universe repos is in your /etc/apt/sources.list and you did 'sudo apt-get update' then thy are available by apt-get and all the frontends to it like synaptic or 'add/remove software'
[05:57] <benny_> doesnt matter c
[05:57] <skavenge> ironfroggy: and you updated your repos after you added?
[05:57] <benny_> cu
[05:57] <wheels3572> facugaich:  WelL I guess no liNux for me then since I cant use the live CD
[05:57] <gdb> IseeIsee: Ah, if you enabled them, then you didn't need to .bin file.
[05:57] <erUSUL> !ipv6 > slavezero
[05:57] <Cntryboy> why do u have knox then lol
[05:57] <LoneShadow> Skaag: its my custom kernel, and limited packages installed, I used debootstrap for breezy
[05:57] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i asked how and was told that i cant do that.
[05:58] <IseeIsee> gdb: ok I'm a newbie, I'm from windows environment. in windows when you install something it gets registered to the registry, whats with Ubuntu, I installed the bin file and it just extracted the bin into the same directory ?
[05:58] <m1ckeyknox> stefg: that's what I was missing... apt-get update
[05:58] <m1ckeyknox> thanks
[05:58] <rowanjl> Can anyone verify that the libdevil packages are bad?
[05:58] <skavenge> ironfroggy: 'sudo apt-get update' from commandline
[05:58] <stefg> bingo
[05:58] <slavezero> erUSUL: ?
[05:58] <gdb> IseeIsee: What Java functionality are you looking for?  runtime? plugin?  or full development environment?
[05:58] <erUSUL> !ipv6
[05:58] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:58] <Skaag> LoneShadow: So what you'r saying is that you are not really running ubuntu anymore... you've customized things to the point where it is your own thing
[05:58] <erUSUL> slavezero: check the ubotu msg
[05:58] <IseeIsee> gdb: full development environment
[05:58] <ki11> does anyone know what this error means: 'unable to mount root fs on unknow block'?
[05:58] <slavezero> erUSUL: thanks
[05:58] <LoneShadow> its a bare version of ubuntu :D
[05:58] <ironfroggy> skavenge: the packages are still missing
[05:58] <gdb> IseeIsee: The .bin file from Sun is just a self-unpacking tarball with a small license blurb tossed in to make sure you agree to it.
[05:58] <facugaich> wheels3572: that's why I said you can try to fix that problem first. Did you read what scavenge said?
[05:58] <jpjacobs> my eth1 doesn't get recognized any more in ubuntu (eg doesnt show up in ifconfig -a) but it does get recognized in grml ( a debian based livecd)... what do i do about it?
[05:58] <IseeIsee> gdb: I'll be installing java wireless toolkit after this
[05:59] <ironfroggy> IseeIsee: for someone seeking help, you sure are being kind of rude and pushy.
[05:59] <Skaag> LoneShadow: I used to do that stuff but I must say that right now, I really enjoy the fact that everything I do just works out of the box, even at the price of a slightly bloated kernel...
[05:59] <skavenge> ironfroggy: what packages are you missing? you sure you didnt screw up your sources.list?
[05:59] <tcv> !ipv6
[05:59] <gdb> IseeIsee: Then if you have Universe and Multiverse enabled you can install the whole shebang with this command: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-*
[05:59] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:59] <IseeIsee> gdb: first of all what are bin files ? just like zip files in windows ?
[05:59] <help> can anyone help me get the drivers for my wireless adapter on ubuntu
[05:59] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i didnt touch the sources.list, so no. im trying to install kubuntu-desktop.
[05:59] <LoneShadow> Skaag: I am building an embedded box for mythtv front end + video sip client
[05:59] <Seveas> !wifi>help
[05:59] <skavenge> ironfroggy: and whats the error?
[05:59] <IseeIsee> gdb the sudo command you talking about its gonna download files from the internet, right ?
[05:59] <Skaag> LoneShadow: nice!
[05:59] <ironfroggy> skavenge: the package just isnt there anymore.
[05:59] <gdb> IseeIsee: It's nothing special, the only 2 companies that I've seen package software that way have been Sun and WordPerfect.  You won't run into it often enough to worry about.
[05:59] <Skaag> LoneShadow: So let me try and help you locate the source of that module
[05:59] <LoneShadow> also installing everything on a 1GB compact flash card, so making my whole filesystem readonly
[06:00] <skavenge> ironfroggy: what error are you getting from 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'?
[06:00] <ki11> does anyone know what this error means: 'unable to mount root fs on unknow block'?
[06:00] <LoneShadow> I got the source
[06:00] <wheels3572> facugaich:  No I missed it lol but I just scrolled back.
[06:00] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i started installing it, and saw it needed over 400 megs of files, so i thought i would add the cd to install faster. but when i tried, the package disappeared.
[06:00] <gdb> IseeIsee: Yes, it will download the pre-packaged Ubuntu installation of the Sun J2SE 5.0 Release 6.
[06:00] <LoneShadow> install pwc-source, made modules, trying it out now :D
[06:00] <Skaag> LoneShadow: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/pwc/pwc.ko
[06:00] <Seveas> ki11, it means your initramfs is broken
[06:00] <wheels3572> facugaich thing is this it worked fine just the other day without an OS on the system
[06:00] <IseeIsee> gdb: anywayz how can I install java properly from this bin file ? settings the path variable & knowing where the software was installed ?
[06:00] <ironfroggy> skavenge: "Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop'
[06:00] <imsai> LjL: it (works) almost
[06:00] <ndlovu> I'm getting a lot of this error in my dmesg output: "[4412880.784000]  hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)". I think it's because I had to use irqpoll and routeirq as boot options. Any idea how to get around this?
[06:00] <Sackers> I just installed ubuntu and noticed it doesn't set up a root password, or that I noticed anyway, does it have a default root pass so I can use apt?
[06:01] <kilai> i want to install my ubunto linux that was all ok then i insatll qemu and then i want start windows from ther bus i cant come in the interet what can i do?
[06:01] <LoneShadow> what package is ekiga, gnomemeeting ?
[06:01] <skavenge> ironfroggy: okay well the cd wouldnt help you unless you had the Kubuntu cd, KDE isnt on the ubuntu cd
[06:01] <facugaich> wheels3572: so you want to get rid of Win. What worked fine, the Live CD or and ubuntu install in the disk?
[06:01] <wheels3572> I had NO OS on the system
[06:01] <[1] astro> thanks all
[06:01] <Skaag> the package name is ekiga
[06:01] <ironfroggy> IseeIsee: why are you using the .bin anyway? why arent you using the proper routes to install software, such as apt-get?
[06:01] <wheels3572> facugaich I downloaded the Dapper install and installed it with this SAME cd on an empty system
[06:01] <ironfroggy> skavenge: I do
[06:01] <LoneShadow> hmm
[06:01] <wheels3572> facugaich it installed and worked fine
[06:01] <LoneShadow> apt-cache search ekiga fails
[06:02] <Seveas> !info ekiga
[06:02] <ubotu> ekiga: Free Your Speech. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB
[06:02] <gdb> IseeIsee: You won't need to worry about any of that if you install the Ubuntu package, but if you want to use the Sun .bin file, then yes, you can use it "properly" by setting your PATH and MANPATH environment variables appropriately and symlinking the libjavaplugin_oji.so file in the correct place (for the Java plugin for Firefox/Mozilla/et al).
[06:02] <skavenge> ironfroggy: if you already are running KDE then were you reinstalling or what?
[06:02] <IseeIsee> ironfroggy: I don't know the proper routes yet, I just downloaded the bin file from the internet thinking the way I download exe for windows
[06:02] <wheels3572> facugaich I JUST reformatted the system lastnight and put windows back on the system for my mom and wen to use the CD today to reinstall Ubuntu and it wont do NOTHING
[06:02] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i dont have kde installed currently.
[06:02] <LoneShadow> maybe its not there on breezy
[06:02] <Skaag> LoneShadow: I guess you don't have the repository setup, sec i'll tell you which one
[06:02] <skavenge> ironfroggy: okay so you got the ubuntu cd, installed, got the kubuntu cd, and tried to go over the top of it?
[06:02] <gdb> That "correct place" for the plug in is /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and it must be a symlink, not a copy of the library.
[06:03] <m_0_r_0_n> I want to develope an OpenGL application, but I cant find the packages Mesa GL 3.2, Mesa-devel, Mesa-glut, and Mesa-glut-devel ! Are there any other packages?
[06:03] <ironfroggy> IseeIsee: 'sudo apt-get install java-common' or use whatever package management tools are available.
[06:03] <ironfroggy> skavenge: no, i started with the kubuntu CD...
[06:03] <Skaag> ok how do I find out which repository a package is coming from? apt-cache show pkgname doesn't show that stuff
[06:03] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i just hadnt installed kde.
[06:03] <skavenge> ironfroggy: so how are you not running KDE? you switched WMs after you installed?
[06:03] <gdb> ironfroggy: I've already suggested using apt-get to install sun-java5-*
[06:03] <LoneShadow> enabled backports, not finding it there as well
[06:03] <gdb> ironfroggy: He's preferring to use the manual install with the .bin file.
[06:04] <IseeIsee> ironfroggy: sudo apt-get install java-common what is this ?
[06:04] <skavenge> ironfroggy: if you installed of a kubuntu cd KDE is the default install, afaik you can't 'not' install it
[06:04] <Skaag> Filename: pool/main/e/ekiga/ekiga_2.0.1-0ubuntu6_i386.deb
[06:04] <gdb> IseeIsee: No, it is sudo apt-get install sun-java5-*
[06:04] <ironfroggy> skavenge: an install command
[06:04] <help> ***need help again now when i boot ubuntu it freezes on loading hardwaere drivers***
[06:04] <Skaag> LoneShadow:  Origin: Ubuntu
[06:04] <LoneShadow> Skaag: I need to add deb http://pkg-voip.buildserver.net/ubuntu breezy main
[06:04] <IseeIsee> gdb: what is that ?
[06:04] <gdb> IseeIsee: What is what?
[06:04] <ironfroggy> skavenge: yes you can. i selected "install server" not realizing it wouldnt install any desktop.
[06:04] <Spec> !noacpi
[06:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about noacpi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:04] <Skaag> LoneShadow: Not sure I have that source repository in my sources.list... mmm...
[06:04] <der0b> how would I remove a file's read only attribute on a CIFS mount via the command line?
[06:05] <help> ***need help again now when i boot ubuntu it freezes on loading hardwaere drivers***
[06:05] <Skaag> LoneShadow: Right, I don't have it, but I can still get ekiga
[06:05] <IseeIsee> gdb: ok so you can't download files from the internet and install like you do with exe files in windows ?
[06:05] <LoneShadow> maybe its been included in dapper
[06:05] <froop> anyone know why i would get a blank screen just after the bios screen after installing updates ?
[06:05] <Aarohi> i installed draper drake. i have two soundcards on this machine, one onboard and one PCI. i'm getting all the applications to output sound through the PCI soundcard(the one in use), but the 'volume control' settings, even when controlled from the keyboard, dont make any difference to the volume.... its irresponsive to the system volume settings. please help..
[06:05] <skavenge> ironfroggy: uh okay, so id try the cd from the start instead of after it tells you how much it needs to install, and make sure the cd is still in your repo list
[06:05] <IseeIsee> gdb: after installing this jdk I need to install the java wireless-toolkit which also I've downloaded as a bin file
[06:05] <Skaag> Aarohi: click properties for the mixer icon, and select the correct mixer device
[06:06] <gdb> IseeIsee: Of course you can.  If you've been reading what I've been telling you, then you are now using a fully functional installation of the Sun J2SE 5.0 Release 7 software.
[06:06] <Aarohi> i have already skaag , it doesnt seem to work
[06:06] <ironfroggy> skavenge: ok but when i added the CD, it lost the package, so i dont know how to do it
[06:06] <skavenge> ironfroggy: otherwise use !easysource and fix your sources.list because kubuntu-desktop is in the main repo so something is messed up
[06:06] <gdb> IseeIsee: If, alternatively, you have been reading what I've been saying about using apt-get, then you now have a fully functional installation of the Sun J2SE 5.0 Release 6 software.
[06:06] <facugaich> wheels3572: ok, how about booting from a DOS floppy and use fdisk to erase windows partition?
[06:06] <Skaag> Aarohi: Play around with it, i'm sure you'll find a solution, it will be simple enough once you get the hang of it
[06:06] <cosmicShadow> Aarohi: what PCI soundcard do you have?
[06:06] <p0seidon> hey
[06:06] <wastrel> okey dokey
[06:06] <ironfroggy> !eastsource
[06:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about eastsource - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:06] <IseeIsee> gdb: no you just told sudo apt-get, I follow that
[06:06] <Skaag> Aarohi: I have 3 sound cards here, all fine
[06:06] <p0seidon> interest
[06:06] <skavenge> ironfroggy: id put the cd in and wait till it loads and try again
[06:06] <ironfroggy> !easysource
[06:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:06] <Aarohi> onboard ESS Allegro cosmicShadow
[06:06] <help> ***need help again now when i boot ubuntu it freezes on loading hardwaere drivers***
[06:07] <gdb> ...
[06:07] <Aarohi> K Skaag i'll try that
[06:07] <ironfroggy> skavenge: what am i waiting for?
[06:07] <facugaich> wheels3572: maybe there's a way to get ubuntu working without erasing Win, but I wouldn't know
[06:07] <IseeIsee> gdb: I have 2 other questions, can you do separate bin installation, like I want to do of java wireless toolkit which I downloaded from the internet
[06:07] <skavenge> ironfroggy: because technically with kubuntu being in the main repo you shouldnt even need the cd, so it cant find it on the internet or the cd? something's messed up and im guessing its the sources.list
[06:07] <Aarohi> Skaag: is it possible to make the onboard soundcard to not be detected by ubuntu?
[06:07] <Aarohi> or disable it somehow?
[06:08] <Skaag> Aarohi: you can disable specific modules, in ubuntu, yes
[06:08] <skavenge> disable it in the bios at bootup
[06:08] <Aarohi> I dont have a use for it
[06:08] <gdb> IseeIsee: If you want to install the Java Wireless Toolkit, there is nothing stopping you from doing it.
[06:08] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i checked the listed repos in sources.list and they are the same as listed on my laptop, which can still find kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <Aarohi> Skaag, how?
[06:08] <Skaag> Aarohi: skavenge is right, best to disable it in the Bios settings
[06:08] <IseeIsee> gdb: in my country we don't have secure internet, so the internet can get disconnected anytime, also the speed is 64kbps so I'm wondering if you always do installation in linux like apt-get, then this is really not a good way
[06:08] <Skaag> Aarohi: This is the simplest way to do it
[06:08] <skavenge> ironfroggy: try it again and see if it gives you the same error
[06:08] <Aarohi> Skaag,  What should I look for in the BIOS settings?
[06:08] <Skaag> On board audio device
[06:08] <Skaag> disable it
[06:09] <Aarohi> Okay
[06:09] <Aarohi> Thank you
[06:09] <ironfroggy> skavenge: it does
[06:09] <Skaag> in your Peripherals section
[06:09] <Skaag> good luck Aarohi
[06:09] <Aarohi> k
[06:09] <Aarohi> Thank you
[06:09] <skavenge> IseeIsee: apt-get is the most important part of this system for package retrieval security updates, everything
[06:09] <IseeIsee> gdb: then why can't I install the jdk from the bin file. it just extracted the bin to the same directory, I want it to install it somewhere & properly integrate it into ubuntu
[06:09] <tristanmike> I'm trying to compile a program, but as soon as I start the "make" process, I get this error...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18276  can someone please have a look ? Thanx.
[06:09] <skavenge> ironfroggy: have you rebooted since then?
[06:10] <angelika> hi at all
[06:10] <angelika> I'm here for the first time
[06:10] <skavenge> ironfroggy: also if it half installed then broke you need to purge the broken package out of your system and reinstall
[06:10] <samu2> where do you install more of these locales that you can display with locale -a
[06:10] <LoneShadow> Skaag: ekiga requires 140MB (mainly uninstalled dependecies) on my bare system :P
[06:10] <LoneShadow> evil
[06:10] <stefg> !build > tristanmike
[06:10] <Skaag> LoneShadow: ouch! :-)
[06:10] <gdb> IseeIsee: Here's the thing.  That .bin file is provided by Sun so that Joe Random Linux User can download it and get Java on their machine.  In general, it's best that you use the packaged version of the software (read: that your distribution vendor provides) over "generic" installation media.  Meaning, in this case, it's best to use "apt-get" to install Java than to use that .bin file.  As your requirements change, you may modify that rule of thumb for yours
[06:10] <angelika> Is there sb wanna talk with me?
[06:10] <Skaag> LoneShadow: I guess that's X libraries, Gnome libraries, etc...
[06:10] <LoneShadow> I got to make sure, I dont run out of 1 GB space :D
[06:11] <Skaag> angelika: over Ekiga?
[06:11] <testttt> hello
[06:11] <mlehrer_> help: first, stop spamming
[06:11] <LoneShadow> help: ship me the hdd, ill wipe it out for you :D
[06:11] <lud2k> hi
[06:11] <mlehrer_> help: second, cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda
[06:11] <mlehrer_> or sda
[06:11] <facugaich> tristanmike: you have aclocal right?
[06:11] <mlehrer_> do a "df" to see what the correct device is
[06:11] <stefg> you're talkink to yourself :-) mlehrer_
[06:11] <Seveas> mlehrer_, he left
[06:11] <johlin> When I for example want to remove evolution mail because I don't use it and I'm a minimalist, I'm told that I break the ubuntu-desktop pakage. Does that mean that the whole ubuntu-desktop package will be removed or just that the ubuntu desktop package just isn't complete if I remove evolution?
[06:11] <tristanmike> facugaich: searched in synaptic, couldn't find any package for it
[06:12] <lud2k> where can i download bash2 for ubuntu ? (i want to restrict users using ssh to their home directory)
[06:12] <stefg>  /left/ ... a pretty word for a kick
[06:12] <IseeIsee> gdb: so what difference would it make to do a general install over the one through apt-get ? and the procedure do to the general install, what is it :)
[06:12] <tristanmike> facugaich: I have all the proper repos enabled as well (official ones I mean)
[06:12] <skavenge> johlin: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, a package with a list of other packages to install, it is safe to remove, nothing will actually remove with it
[06:12] <ironfroggy> skavenge: yes i rebooted, and it didnt half install, i cancelled it before it started.
[06:12] <Aarohi> Skaag, Okay, I think I found what I was missing. But there's still one thing that its responding incorrectly to... my keyboard volume control... raising or dropping the volume doesn't make a difference
[06:12] <gdb> johlin: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, meaning, it contains no software itself but has a lot of dependant software.  It's used simply for installed GNOME and is not required after installation.  Before upgrading to the next release, however, it is suggested that you reinstall it prior to the upgrade.
[06:13] <facugaich> tristanmike: wierd, I could swear I intalled it through synaptic
[06:13] <Aarohi> Skaag, Everything else is working fine
[06:13] <johlin> skavenge and gdb: good. thanks. So I can safely remove all the extra apps I don't need? nice
[06:13] <Skaag> Aarohi: That is something you probably set from somewhere else, a different software that handles special keyboard bindings for volume settings
[06:13] <Aarohi> Any idea Skaag ?
[06:13] <tristanmike> facugaich: the only thing that comes up, and only when searching with Description and Name, is libguile-dev
[06:13] <Skaag> Aarohi: Now that you mention it, I have the same problem :-)
[06:13] <Aarohi> Ah.. heh
[06:14] <Aarohi> Well, if I find something Skaag , i'll let you know :-)
[06:14] <Skaag> Aarohi: I have volume keys on my keyboard as well, they show me the volume popup but the volume doesn't change, it's like it's muted
[06:14] <Aarohi> Exactly my problem
[06:14] <skavenge> ironfroggy: dunno what to tell you, obviously theres another part to the problem as things just dont 'dissapear' off a burnt cd and your also unable to get it off the internet, that doesnt make sense ... somethings seriously broke, id suggest a complete reinstall of kubuntu -the right way-, you end up with less headaches in the longrun
[06:14] <facugaich> tristanmike: yes, here too
[06:15] <ironfroggy> skavenge: you have no idea what kind of trouble i went through getting kubuntu installed the first time!
[06:15] <Aarohi> Skaag, should I try posting there in the forums?
[06:15] <Jazon> hi everyone.  i cannot figure out how to get acpi / powermanagement working for my laptop (NEC i-Select).  I would appreciate any help
[06:15] <Skaag> Aarohi: sec, i'm sure we'll find it...
[06:15] <Aarohi> k
[06:15] <Jazon> (its running hot)
[06:15] <Aarohi> I did find Keyboard shortcuts
[06:15] <skavenge> ironfroggy: well your going to play catch-up with packages from here on out from stuff that didnt get installed from the desktop install anyway
[06:15] <Aarohi> But its set correctly
[06:15] <johlin> Skaag: I have the same problem. I posted in the forums but no one seemed to care.
[06:15] <gdb> IseeIsee: Using apt-get will place the Sun Java version under package management ensuring that you get easy access to updates, the ability to use the "alternatives" system to switch between versions of Java, integrated with Ubuntu with no more symlinks or PATH statements to setup, and easy to remove should you decide you don't like it.  The generic installation from Sun allows you to keep non-Free software outside of package management, to place the installat
[06:16] <Skaag> Aarohi: yah i know, they are set ok but they are not controlling the correct mixer
[06:16] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i mean hardware wise
[06:16] <Skaag> i'm sure there is a solution for that, i'm checking
[06:16] <facugaich> tristanmike: aclocal comes with automake
[06:16] <ironfroggy> i have to run an IDE cable from another box to this one to piggyback on its CD-ROM
[06:16] <skavenge> ironfroggy: 9 out of 10 times your problem is sources.list issues but if you say its identical i dont know where to go from there ..
[06:16] <johlin> Skaag: does your volume also sound like crap when you set it to maxiumum?
[06:17] <Skaag> johlin: no that sounds ok, but I have USB speakers
[06:17] <DarkProphet> hi all, nvidia-glx stuff doesn't work with amd64 distribution
[06:17] <DarkProphet> is there a trick to get them to work ?
[06:17] <DarkProphet> the X server crashes
[06:17] <skavenge> ironfroggy: did you try to even boot into the livecd with kubuntu disc?
[06:17] <IseeIsee> gdb: what if I get disconnected during apt-get, will it start over again ?
[06:17] <stefg> yes
[06:17] <facugaich> tristanmike: install automake1.6
[06:17] <johlin> Skaag: aah. Anyway, I still have the same volume problem as you have. I've been told it because for example Rhythmbox uses the PCM slider and the keyboard buttons control the master slide, but it doesn't make any sense as master is supposed to me "master"
[06:18] <Skaag> ok I found how to fix it
[06:18] <Skaag> System -> Preferences -> Sounds
[06:18] <Aarohi> k Skaag , I'm ears
[06:18] <Skaag> Default audio device:..
[06:18] <Skaag> Select the correct device there
[06:18] <Skaag> the bug seems to be that no matter what you select, if you close that panel and reopen it, it goes back to the wrong card
[06:18] <Aarohi> Skaag, Its already set to the correct one
[06:19] <Skaag> on mine It always goes back to the wrong adapter
[06:19] <Aarohi> Hm, I changed on mine successfully
[06:19] <DarkProphet> any ideas guys ?
[06:19] <johlin> Skaag: I only have 1 to choose from. Maybe my problem differs from yours then.
[06:19] <ironfroggy> skavenge: you mean before i installed? yeah, why?
[06:19] <benny_> hi
[06:19] <Aarohi> Skaag, I also found a similar setting when you right click on the sound icon in the tray, and select Preferences
[06:19] <benny_> I'm here to tell you, that I hate xorg, thanks :)
[06:20] <Skaag> Aarohi: yah me too but that one works fine for me
[06:20] <benny_> (sorry, else I would explode)
[06:20] <Skaag> johlin: probable
[06:20] <skavenge> ironfroggy: well if the livecd worked fine what hardware problems did you have?
[06:20] <paulm> Is there anyway to get certain commands (i.e play, pause, change track) "exept" from being locked out when screen is locked? Probably a stupid question.
[06:20] <Aarohi> Its set to fine for me, just not working
[06:21] <lud2k> how can i restrict users to their home directory ? (so they can't go anywhere else or see any files that are not their files)
[06:21] <bobbyd_> hi, I'm having a problem with my pptp VPN connection under dapper, it used to work, but now it just seems to connect, but I can't transfer any data. I'm also seeing "Neighbour Table Overflow" in the syslog. Is this a known issue?
 wietz0r, allowing root login is wrong, (no matter what the circumstance (we could debate single usermode but lets not)), I run ubuntu on a couple of servers and am happy, they are internet facing
 wietz0r so does ubuntu
[06:21] <wietz0r> ~wtf
[06:21] <wastrel> lud2k:  check the -r option  in man bash
[06:21] <Skaag> weird
[06:21] <IseeIsee>  gdb: what if I get disconnected during apt-get, will it start over again ?
[06:22] <Skaag> so this is an ubuntu bug, i'll try to see if anyone else reported it
[06:22] <lud2k> oki thx
[06:22] <johlin> I've made some small shell scripts to fetch the latest codeblocks files from svn and build them. I don't wanna have to enter my root password when it installs as I sometimes just start the script and run away, so I thought I'd just add sudo cowsay blabla, but it doesn't ask for the password when I do that. Is there a quick little command that needs root access but doesn't really do much?
[06:22] <tristanmike> facugaich: don't have 1.6
[06:22] <_andreas> hello! i have a notebook (acer aspire 5024WLMi) with amd 64 cpu and ati mobility radeon x700. i installed the drivers but when i use the command fglrxinfo, there stands Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual! can anybody help me?
[06:22] <stefg> johlin: fdisk -l
[06:22] <facugaich> tristanmike: what do you have? maybe because you've got dapper?
[06:23] <tristanmike> facugaich: 1.4, 1.7-1.9, lol
[06:23] <ironfroggy> skavenge: it booted ok, but the cdrom is kind of buggy and during the course of a full install it inevitably runs into a corrupt read.
[06:23] <IrIT> Hi. Anyone here have any experience with a trendnet print server?
[06:23] <johlin> stefg: thanks, that'll do
[06:23] <rebelfallen> I have a USB external Hard drive. Is it possible to somehow have it running as well as my current hard drive running, and switch over to it like a VNC between computers... ?
[06:24] <Skaag> Aarohi: if you open a terminal and run: alsamixer
[06:24] <Skaag> what do you get? the correct device?
[06:24] <void^> IseeIsee: apt will resume just fine
[06:24] <facugaich> tristanmike: g2g now, sry, aclocal-1.6 comes with automake1.6, try looking for it somewhre pal
[06:24] <tristanmike> facugaich: thanx anyway
[06:24] <johlin> Also, I've seen in a few scripts that gets stuff from svn/cvs where you have like a list of tasks (1. fetching, 2. making, 3. blabla) where the actual programs that run have no output. How do I do that in a sh file?
[06:24] <Aarohi> i do Skaag
[06:24] <Skaag> me too
[06:24] <stinkball> has anyone gotten tuxguardian to compile and work on ubuntu?
[06:24] <Skaag> i'm still researching this, sec
[06:25] <Aarohi> k
[06:25] <Aarohi> Skaag, I'll try and post this in the forums, see if anyone knows about this... and actually something tells me we're not the only ones with this problem
[06:25] <stefg> rebelfallen: either  you're confused, or I am (-:
[06:25] <IseeIsee> void^: you mean if I shutdown & start over again tomorow and do apt-get install sun-java5.*        it will not start downloading the 60 mb file all over, it'll start from where it left ? also where are these files being downloaded where is the jdk gonna be installed ?
[06:26] <lud2k> wastrel: but.. people use cd, they can't access their own directory :( and they can type "bash" and everything work after
[06:26] <tristanmike> I'm trying to compile a program, but as soon as I start the "make" process, I get this error...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18276  can someone please have a look ? Thanx.
[06:26] <froop> is there at least anyway to get access to the updates i download through the livecd before i reinstall this thing? is there a dir the updates download to?
[06:26] <Skaag> Aarohi: Looks like there is a solution here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79717.html
[06:26] <Skaag> Aarohi: I'm trying this now
[06:26] <lud2k> wastrel: but.. people can't use cd, they can't access their own directory :( and they can type "bash" and everything work after
[06:26] <Aarohi> oh
[06:26] <mnp> crimsun: are you around to help me some more with that ALSA/soundcard issue
[06:27] <tahgixoo27343> I need to create an account that is locked to /home/natasha and has full permissions, also the user "natasha" should be able to run ./ commands in /home/natasha - can I get some help?
[06:27] <void^> IseeIsee: yes, it will resume. files are downloaded to /var/cache/apt. installed to wherever the package wants to be installed.
[06:27] <majd> !soundjuicer-mp3
[06:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about soundjuicer-mp3 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:27] <_stev_> wireless problem: how do I update my ipw2200 driver?
[06:27] <rebelfallen> stefg:  I want to be able to swap over to my other hard drive that runs a separate operating system. Right now I have to restart, switch the hard drive boot sequence in the bios and login. I want to be able to login to ubuntu on the USB drive while running my current internal hard drive
[06:27] <majd> !sound juicer
[06:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about sound juicer - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:27] <wastrel> lud2k:  sorry, I thought that might help :] 
[06:27] <majd> how can i encode mp3s in sound juicer?
[06:27] <stefg> rebelfallen: either vmpayer or man chroot
[06:28] <IseeIsee> void^: it will give me an option to choose where to install packages the way it happens in windows is that you install to Program Files, what about Ubuntu, which location should I typically give to it ? can it be in a drive which is FAT32 ?
[06:28] <lud2k> wastrel: on google they said to use bash2 but i can't fin where to download it :(
[06:28] <stefg>  /vmpayer/... nice typo :-)
[06:28] <mnp> iianyone familar with IHC4 module?
[06:28] <void^> IseeIsee: no, it will not give options. this isn't windows, it works differently, the filesystem concept is different
[06:28] <johlin> which archive format (zip, rar, tar...) is the fastest in compressing?
[06:28] <IseeIsee> void^: so where is it gonna install it ?
[06:29] <lens> I am curious is there a bash command to show time and date?
[06:29] <bart3k> johlin: tar don't compress
[06:29] <cosmicShadow> majd: you need to create a new output profile.  In the preferences window (Edit > Preferences, at the bottom)
[06:29] <Skaag> lens: date
[06:29] <lens> right on.
[06:29] <lens> thanks!
[06:29] <Skaag> lens: and date has quite a few params...
[06:29] <gteppel_> Is security.ubuntu.com down?
[06:29] <warlocky> I need to create an account that is locked to /home/natasha and has full permissions, also the user "natasha" should be able to run ./ commands in /home/natasha - can I get some help?
[06:29] <lens> Skaag... ok.
[06:29] <johlin> bart3k: no problem, I just need to pack some files, size is not a problem. So tar is faster then?
[06:29] <majd> cosmicShadow, do i need to install any packages before that?
[06:29] <void^> IseeIsee: install it, run dpkg -L <packagename> if you really want to know. usually you don't concern yourself with where things are installed to.
[06:30] <bart3k> johlin: yes it's fast couse it only create one file from many files
[06:30] <cosmicShadow> majd:  you'll need an encoder - most use lame.  I don't believe there's a lame package in apt though
[06:30] <senshine> can someone tell me how to determine which version of drivers are installed for my wireless card please
[06:30] <warlocky-> I need to create an account that is locked to /home/natasha and has full permissions, also the user "natasha" should be able to run ./ commands in /home/natasha - can I get some help?
[06:30] <stefg> !codecs
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <rowanjl> Can someone tell me how to check that a lib is installed?
[06:30] <johlin> cosmicShadow: yes there is. command line only though I think.
[06:31] <mnp> is anyone familar with intel ICH4 chipsets/soundcards not being recognized? crimsun, and spec were helping me yesterday, but i got stuck with and acpi issue
[06:31] <vieirar> Hi is there anyway to convert an .scr to an avi or mpeg?
[06:31] <kintaro> hi guys..whats the difference between xen and vmware?i'm just confused! :(
[06:31] <johlin> vieirar: isn't .scr a screensaver for windows?
[06:31] <warlocky-> anyone? cmon?
[06:31] <vieirar> johlin, yes it is but they usually start out as and avi or mpeg
[06:31] <Frankenstein> hi, im trying to play a .wmv file and I cant find the right codec in the rep... could someone help me out by telling me what i need exactly to do this?
[06:31] <Skaag> ok time to go home to the wife
[06:31] <Skaag> bbl
[06:32] <TestXChat> how can I find out if a laptop is supported by Ubuntu?
[06:32] <senshine> i should leave then Skaag
[06:32] <stefg> kintaro: that's beyond the scope of this channel... #vmware or #xen might enlighten you
[06:32] <senshine> thanks for the warning
[06:32] <mnp> Text: there is a list of supported hardware on the support page
[06:32] <benny_> damn, i hate ATI now
[06:32] <brando1> Are 64 bit libraries installed to /usr/lib or /usr/lib64? (And also the follow would be to verify /usr/lib contains 32 or if 32 bit libraries go /usr/lib32, and where the /usr/lib symlink points to
[06:32] <benny_> I'll buy a nVidia next time
[06:32] <benny_> cu
[06:32] <mnp> TestXChat: there is a llist of supported hardware, (and many laptop configs) on the unbuntu support pages
[06:32] <johlin> warlocky-: wouldn't that mean that that user can't access anything outside it's home directory, so no preinstalled programs or anything?
[06:32] <benny_> (sorry, just damn upset)
[06:33] <warlocky-> exactly, he should only be able to access /home/natasha
[06:33] <montag_> Anyone know if it's possible to install the Tremulous game through Synaptic?
[06:33] <Frankenstein> :P anyone?
[06:33] <mlehrer_> Frankenstein: google for w32codecs & ubuntu
[06:33] <IseeIsee> void^: after this JDK is installed I wanna install the java-wireless-toolkit & its updated path which are available as bin on sun website. I already have them in my HDD, how would I install them ?
[06:33] <mlehrer_> there are some good documents out there
[06:33] <johlin> warlocky-: then just regular permissions should do right?
[06:33] <Frankenstein> ok
[06:33] <warlocky-> but he can start something trough screen etc, thats' what I need. If you can help me out joh, I owe you.
[06:33] <warlocky-> johlin, I tried it out. It wont work
[06:33] <_marshall> hey guys
[06:33] <qt4x11> hi
[06:33] <warlocky-> if i try "screen" I get this
[06:33] <void^> IseeIsee: if it's not available in the repos you'll have to install manually.
[06:33] <warlocky-> natasha@playz:/home/natasha$ screen ./
[06:33] <warlocky-> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/3' - please check.
[06:34] <_marshall> does anybody know if gaim can in any way support msn personal messages and display pics and stuff?
[06:34] <johlin> warlocky-: so you mean that he should be able to start programs from the screen but not remotely?
[06:34] <qt4x11> how do i send a message using 'wall' if i want to use stdin?
[06:34] <Meez> hey, anyone know how to set user quota's / size limits for home folders? googled to no avail :\
[06:34] <IseeIsee> I'm asking for the method to install it manually ?
[06:34] <Meez> _marshall, it supports display pics just fine
[06:34] <void^> IseeIsee: depends entirely on what you install, things usually come with readme/install instructions
[06:34] <Meez> not personal messages though
[06:34] <_marshall> Meez: where can i set my display pic?
[06:35] <warlocky-> johlin, he should be able to do anything in /home/natasha, but he shouldnt be able to access other folders
[06:35] <_marshall> Meez: is there any way yo get it to?
[06:35] <warlocky-> then that one
[06:35] <Meez> Accounts -> you@yourmail.com -> Edit Acount -> Buddy Icon
[06:35] <jpjacobs> qt4x11, pipe it through like echo 'boeh'|wall
[06:35] <IseeIsee> void^: its a bin file
[06:35] <imc_> Problems on dapper with Evolution; crashing every time on startup. The program starts and crashes, 'unexpectedly'.
[06:35] <angelika> is there sb wanna talk?
[06:35] <Meez> open/remove buttons
[06:36] <void^> IseeIsee: those are usually self-extracting archives, surely there are detailed instructions available on the website you got it from
[06:36] <warlocky-> johlin, any ideas+
[06:36] <imc_> Any evolution help? Suddenly it's crashing every time I start
[06:36] <Frankenstein> ok, google isnt telling me anything... no one knows which packages from the rep. i need?  it was a simple question, ive already been searching or i wouldnt have come here :P
[06:37] <IseeIsee> void^: right also please let me know how is the support of Ubuntu to handle power shutdowns as its common in my country ?
[06:37] <elknof3> hi
[06:37] <IseeIsee> void^: I mean chances of file getting corrupted or anything ?
[06:37] <rebelfallen> wow chroot is completely confusing
[06:37] <johlin> warlocky-: well, I don't know if this will break something else, but setting permission on all folder but the home folder to owner only and giving all folders to root should work
[06:38] <cosmicShadow> majd: thank you for being patient.
[06:38] <kalila> grep, how does it return 3 lines after the text is has found
[06:38] <n3rdism> !grub
[06:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:38] <void^> IseeIsee: depends on the filesystem you chose. common filesystems like ext3 and reiserfs are usually pretty stable.
[06:38] <TestXChat> I'm trying to determine if ubuntu will work on a HP Compaq Presario v2710us.  I can't find it on the supported page, any ideas?
[06:38] <cosmicShadow> majd: type sudo apt-get install lame
[06:38] <majd> cosmicShadow, yeah, i just got ripperx and it's working :)
[06:38] <serge> Hiya, I've just used a howto on how to install the ATI drivers for ubuntu and when I reboot and type fglrxinfo I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18161 I believe I need libGL.so.1.2 but I've no idea where to find it and google comes up empty handed. Any ideas?
[06:39] <majd> but sound juicer would be nice
[06:39] <fyrestrtr> TestXChat: what are the specs on that?
[06:39] <majd> so i'd appreciate the help
[06:39] <majd> cause ripperx is really ugly
[06:39] <cosmicShadow> all right, i'll walk you through it
[06:39] <majd> thanks
[06:39] <kalila> !grep
[06:39] <TestXChat> fyrestrtr, http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4880360
[06:39] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:39] <cosmicShadow> majd: sudo apt-get install lame
[06:39] <majd> E: Package lame has no installation candidate
[06:39] <}btorch{> hi is ubuntu breezy also known as ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8.1 ?
[06:39] <qt4x11> if i do a longer message like echo 'this is a really, long sentence' | wall it takes me to a > prompt
[06:39] <stefg> !info liblame
[06:39] <qt4x11> why is that
[06:39] <ubotu> Package liblame does not exist in dapper
[06:39] <sri_> can any one tell how to join in python discussion?
[06:40] <fyrestrtr> qt4x11: you have to hit ctrl+z
[06:40] <qt4x11> when
[06:40] <notmeitsyou> does anyone know if there are any java problems with mozilla firefox
[06:40] <fyrestrtr> sri_: type /j #python
[06:40] <stefg> !info liblame0
[06:40] <ubotu> liblame0: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 147 kB, installed size 376 kB
[06:40] <wastrel> serge:  the 9200 doesn't require fglrx
[06:40] <wastrel> serge:  9500 and above
[06:40] <cosmicShadow> majd: do you have the universe/multiverse repos enabled?
[06:40] <qt4x11> i tried ctrl-z doesn't do anything?
[06:40] <epidemik> how can i tell what video card i have?
[06:41] <jrib> epidemik: lspci
[06:41] <ttyfscker> does anyone know why my flash player isnt accessing my webcam / mic, they get detected, but they wont work. I have my flash settings to allow webcam and mic..I have tried running firefox as root just to see if the flash would access the hardware then, still no good.. anybody???
[06:41] <majd> cosmicShadow, i should.....
[06:41] <majd> it's checked under repositories in synaptic
[06:41] <TestXChat> fyrestrtr, any idea?
[06:41] <cosmicShadow> lame should be in multiverse
[06:41] <XiXaQ> serge, do you have a radeon 9200 se card?
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> TestXChat: page is not loading here, just type out the specs
[06:41] <serge> wastrel, so how do I fix that error? I did it yestoday before windows ate ubuntu (long story) and it worked
[06:41] <MachineH3D> why does my firefox crash while loading some pages i think its java
[06:41] <serge> XiXaQ, yes 9200 SE 256mb
[06:41] <qt4x11> if i do a longer message like echo 'this is a really, long sentence' | wall it takes me to a > prompt
[06:41] <D1> hello, can apt-get remove configuration files on uninstall?
[06:41] <qt4x11> why is that
[06:41] <epidemik> jrib: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] 
[06:41] <qt4x11> i tried ctrl-z doesn't do anything?
[06:41] <stefg> epidemik: lspci | grep vga
[06:41] <D1> or do I have to use dpkg?
[06:42] <venkatesh> D1, dpkg --purge can
[06:42] <epidemik> jrib is that the right line?
[06:42] <TestXChat> fyrestrtr, sempron 3300+
[06:42] <TestXChat> fyrestrtr, the mobo isn't listed..
[06:42] <majd> cosmicShadow, i get an error when i reload the repos
[06:42] <D1> venkatesh: what if I wanna remove more than one package?
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> D1: apt-get remove --purge fooo
[06:42] <sri_> fyrestrtr, i type it but it is saying that 'u need to be identified'
[06:42] <XiXaQ> serge, I have the same card, and I've been having some problems with it. What are your problems?
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> TestXChat: video card?
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> sri_: you need to register your nick.
[06:42] <wastrel> serge:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose ati or radeon instead of fglrx
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> sri_: type /msg nickserv help register
[06:42] <serge> I get a load of errors when I do fglrxinfo
[06:42] <TestXChat> fyrestrtr, Video Card ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[06:43] <jrib> epidemik: yes seems to be
[06:43] <majd> cosmicShadow, http://pastebin.ca/91438
[06:43] <MachineH3D> i need help relating firefox and java
[06:43] <epidemik> jrib lol is that a reallly crappy card?
[06:43] <jrib> MachineH3D: can you be more specific?
[06:43] <stefg> epidemik: lspci | grep VGA (note uppercase)
[06:43] <serge> wastrel, sure? it seemed to have worked yestoday
[06:43] <fyrestrtr> TestXChat: I don't see a problem with it, you might not get good acceleration with the video card, but that's ati for you.
[06:43] <cosmicShadow> majd: do you have synaptic open?
[06:44] <jrib> epidemik: I don't know too much about video cards, but at least it's nvidia
[06:44] <XiXaQ> serge, I've seen those before :)
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> TestXChat: your main concern will be the wifi if it has it.
[06:44] <TestXChat> fyrestrtr, alright.. I suppose I can always return it to frys if it doesnt work :D
[06:44] <wastrel> serge:  dunno, i have a 9600, just reading from the wiki page that fglrx isn't required for below 9500
[06:44] <MachineH3D> well when i go to some sites it either half loads the page and hangs there and doesnt do anything or will just close firefox completly
[06:44] <cosmicShadow> majd: you have to close any package managers before doing an apt-get update in the console
[06:44] <serge> wastrel, oki ty
[06:44] <epidemik> jrib i got it for free in garage sale
[06:44] <XiXaQ> serge, since we're obviously having the same problem, perhaps we should join forces?
[06:45] <serge> XiXaQ, it was a cheap card a while ago, I've got a x1800 now but they're not supported very well if at all so I use the other card u see
[06:45] <serge> XiXaQ, indeed
[06:45] <ttyfscker> does anyone know why my flash player isnt accessing my webcam / mic, they get detected, but they wont work. I have my flash settings to allow webcam and mic..I have tried running firefox as root just to see if the flash would access the hardware then, still no good.. anybody???
[06:45] <Frankenstein> !gpg
[06:45] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[06:45] <majd> cosmicShadow, http://pastebin.ca/91440
[06:45] <serge> XiXaQ, so you get the same thing?
[06:45] <XiXaQ> serge, #ubuntu-radeon9200se
[06:45] <XiXaQ> yes.
[06:46] <MachineH3D> ?
[06:46] <sponix> I went from linux-386 to linux-686, and know linux-k7 kernel ... Is it ok for me to remove the prior 386/686 kernels, or should they be left for historical values ;)
[06:47] <jrib> MachineH3D: does it happen everytime on the same page?
[06:47] <p0seidon> Hi
[06:47] <MachineH3D> yes
[06:47] <venkatesh> sponix, its fine to remove them after you test the new kernel
[06:47] <jrib> MachineH3D: what page?
[06:47] <p0seidon> I'll find out
[06:47] <IseeIsee> is there any alternative to google talk in windows which notify you as soon as you receive an email ?
[06:47] <cosmicShadow> majd: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.
[06:47] <MachineH3D> its when i login on online text based webgame
[06:48] <jrib> IseeIsee: well you can use gmail-notify to tell you when you get mail
[06:48] <majd> k, i'm gonna do gedit cause nano and other text based editors give me a headache
[06:48] <jrib> MachineH3D: does it happen on other pages?
[06:48] <cosmicShadow> majd: comment out the lines for the cd, then type Ctrl+X to save and close the window, then rerun the update
[06:48] <sponix> IseeIsee: there are lots of firefox plugins that will check gmail for email messages
[06:48] <sponix> IseeIsee: and google talk is just a jabber client from what I've seen
[06:49] <cosmicShadow> any text editor works :)
[06:49] <subman> Hello
[06:49] <MachineH3D> not that i know of
[06:49] <rpedro> XiXaQ, serge: you tried this howto : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197471&highlight=ati+9200+se+fglrx+howto  ?
[06:49] <IseeIsee> void^: man you are wrong, the terminal was downloading something and it was 23% done I closed the terminal and wrote sudo apt-get sun-java5.* , it started downloading from 0%
[06:49] <D1> thanks for the help
[06:49] <epidemik> can anyone help a noob get a nvidia driver?
[06:49] <subman> Ummm can i get support here?
[06:49] <serge> rpedro, i've got it sorted now, found the driver so it should work
[06:49] <_tom> anyone here know how to set up a modem?
[06:49] <jrib> MachineH3D: well you can try running firefox from a terminal and seeing if you get any meaningful output after you make it crash, but since it's only one page, it sounds like it is a problem with the game
[06:50] <subman> Ummm can i get support here?
[06:50] <epidemik> NO!!!!!
[06:50] <majd> cosmicShadow, k, no error, gonna try to get lame now
[06:50] <stefg> !ask
[06:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:50] <MachineH3D> the game runs on my windows partition
[06:50] <rpedro> serge: ok
[06:50] <void^> IseeIsee: really? are you sure it didn't simply start with another package? i just tried and it resumes reliably here.
[06:51] <IseeIsee> void^: right now its showing this:
[06:51] <IseeIsee> Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse sun-java5-bin 1.5.0-06-1 [22.1MB] 
[06:51] <IseeIsee> 2% [1 sun-java5-bin 1709824/22.1MB 7%] 
[06:52] <jrib> MachineH3D: you could try other browsers too
[06:52] <MachineH3D> like?
[06:52] <majd> cosmicShadow, still nothing
[06:52] <subman> im trying to install Wolfenstien: Enemy Teritory, but it keeps saying:
[06:52] <IseeIsee> so now let me close the terminal & start over again
[06:52] <jrib> MachineH3D: mozilla, epiphany, galeon, opera
[06:53] <cosmicShadow> majd: in the meantime, try sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:53] <MachineH3D> what would you recoment
[06:53] <subman> root/.setup5797: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannotopen shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:53] <subman> /tmp/selfgz5710/setup.sh: line 143:  5820 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@"2>>$NULL
[06:53] <MachineH3D> recoment
[06:53] <IseeIsee> void^: see this now after closing terminal & starting again
[06:53] <IseeIsee> Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse sun-java5-bin 1.5.0-06-1 [22.1 MB] 
[06:53] <IseeIsee> 0% [1 sun-java5-bin 46051/22.1MB 0%] 
[06:53] <subman> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[06:53] <majd> cosmicShadow, k, that worked
[06:54] <_tom> how do i play mpeg's?
[06:54] <MachineH3D> install the codecs
[06:54] <jrib> !mpeg
[06:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:54] <gdb> IseeIsee: wow, you've finally picked up on apt-get! ;-)
[06:55] <vbgunz> anyone know of a very lightweight 'wordpad' replacement for Linux... I know it is off-topic to ask here *but* I find it hard to take notes when studying if I cannot 'bold, monospace, italicize,' my notes :( any suggestions welcomed!
[06:55] <cosmicShadow> majd: go back and edit your sources.list - on the line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper" add multiverse to the end
[06:55] <rowanjl> shouldn't there be /etc/ld.so.conf?
[06:55] <cosmicShadow> vbgunz: abiword (sudo apt-get install abiword)
[06:55] <epidemik> can anyone help a me get a nvidia driver?
[06:56] <void^> IseeIsee: ah, you shouldn't close the terminal. use ctrl-c.
[06:56] <jojopaderes>  i just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.15-26-686 and after rebooting i can't start my xserver. nvidia driver is not working anymore
[06:56] <subman> im trying to install Wolfenstien: Enemy Teritory, but it keeps saying:
[06:56] <subman> root/.setup5797: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannotopen shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:56] <subman> /tmp/selfgz5710/setup.sh: line 143:  5820 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@"2>>$NULL
[06:56] <subman> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[06:56] <MachineH3D> it works thanks man
[06:56] <epidemik> can anyone help a me get a nvidia driver?
[06:56] <vbgunz> cosmicShadow: I already office writer... aren't these the same? I would like a lightweight editor that has support for 'bold, italics, different fonts', etc...
[06:56] <majd> cosmicShadow, oh, wait a second, look what i found on the wiki
[06:56] <majd> !cdripping
[06:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about cdripping - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:56] <_tom> jrib: thanks a bunch
[06:56] <majd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#head-f109ee313aa77bf2997e6499584438e9f7691d58
[06:56] <n3rdism> hey all; im having a problem getting grub to install on my sata. does anyone have enough experience with this to help me?
[06:56] <subman> im trying to install Wolfenstien: Enemy Teritory, but it keeps saying:
[06:56] <subman> im trying to install Wolfenstien: Enemy Teritory, but it keeps saying:
[06:56] <subman> root/.setup5797: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannotopen shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:56] <subman> /tmp/selfgz5710/setup.sh: line 143:  5820 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@"2>>$NULL
[06:57] <subman> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[06:57] <rowanjl> anyone?
[06:57] <IseeIsee> void:^ when the power would shutdown there would be no ctrl c, so my conclusion is sort of that Ubuntu/linux is being designed keeping in view places where there is good internet & secure power
[06:57] <Ropechoborra> How do i know wich kernel fits my needs?
[06:57] <cosmicShadow> vbgunz: OO Writer is bloaty - abiword will load up a lot faster, and have a smaller footprint
[06:57] <Ropechoborra> best
[06:57] <IseeIsee> I'm from a country where there is neither good internet not any security of when the electricity goes out
[06:57] <n3rdism> hey all; im having a problem getting grub to install on my sata. does anyone have enough experience with this to help me?
[06:57] <mlehrer_> this is even faster for word docs: strings foo.doc | less
[06:57] <mlehrer_> but you lose a lot of formatting :)
[06:57] <vbgunz> cosmicShadow: ok, then I'll look into it :)
[06:57] <void^> IseeIsee: internet loss is not a problem, power losses shouldn't happen every 30 minutes.
[06:58] <Ropechoborra> How do i know wich kernel best fits my needs?
[06:58] <cosmicShadow> majd: will you be able to get it from there?
[06:58] <majd> cosmicShadow, i'm trying it right now
[06:58] <subman> im trying to install Wolfenstien: Enemy Teritory, but it keeps saying:
[06:58] <subman> root/.setup5797: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannotopen shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:58] <subman> /tmp/selfgz5710/setup.sh: line 143:  5820 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@"2>>$NULL
[06:58] <subman> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[06:58] <IseeIsee> void^: if it takes about 5 hours to download 60 mb and in that 5 hours the electricity even goes for 5 minutes, does not that means the whole effort of downloading the packages is lost cause apt-get gonna start downloading from the start anyway ?
[06:59] <n3rdism> hey all; im having a problem getting grub to install on my sata. does anyone have enough experience with this to help me?
[06:59] <subman> im trying to install Wolfenstien: Enemy Teritory, but it keeps saying:
[06:59] <subman> root/.setup5797: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannotopen shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:59] <subman> /tmp/selfgz5710/setup.sh: line 143:  5820 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@"2>>$NULL
[06:59] <subman> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[06:59] <void^> IseeIsee: i'm not even sure. i suppose there's a way to make it use another tool for downloading. either way, you can download the packages yourself if you like, handling resuming yourself.
[07:00] <evilbulgarian> hi, anyone know of where i can find mono 1.1.16.1 package for ubuntu?
[07:00] <epidemik> please help me get nvidia drivers
[07:00] <RichEd> noobie question ... what's the file extention for an executable like nautilus under linux
[07:00] <cosmicShadow> Aarohi: any luck?
[07:00] <IseeIsee> void^ & gdb: so gdb now you get it why I was stressing on manually installing jdk from .bin file cause i'll have control over it and the installation is not directly internet dependent. so now please let me know what should be the next step the jdk is extracted in the same directory as of bin
[07:00] <hawkaloogie> RichEd, linux doesn't need "file extentions"
[07:00] <Aarohi> no cosmicShadow , still on it
[07:00] <epidemik> please help me get nvidia drivers
[07:00] <IseeIsee> void^: I have already extracted the jdk .bin file from sun, if you did not read it from my earlier posts
[07:00] <void^> IseeIsee: use apt-get install --print-uris <package>
[07:01] <hawkaloogie> !nvidia > epidemik
[07:01] <user-land> what do you use to see the CPU temperature ?
[07:01] <subman> im trying to install Wolfenstien: Enemy Teritory, but it keeps saying:
[07:01] <notrash> there is no special file extension for executeable files
[07:01] <subman> root/.setup5797: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannotopen shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:01] <subman> /tmp/selfgz5710/setup.sh: line 143:  5820 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@"2>>$NULL
[07:01] <subman> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[07:01] <void^> IseeIsee: you are free to do things in whatever way you want
[07:01] <winman> user-land, I've got this little applet thing sitting on my panel
[07:02] <IseeIsee> void^: how can I manually install jdk from .bin file, there is nothing on the internet related to that which is depressing
[07:02] <RichEd> hawkaloogie: (nice nick) i'm actually searching for the nautilus application to add as a shortcut on a menu & also to grab the icon to use for another desktop shorcut
[07:02] <cosmicShadow> IseeIsee: chmod +x jdk*.bin, ./jdk*.bin
[07:02] <hawkaloogie> RichEd, /usr/bin/nautilus <- the program. /usr/share/icons <- or something like that for the icons
[07:02] <teicah> ive installed different 'codecs' and still unable to play dvds w/mplayer.. what is the one(s) i need?  i followed http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[07:02] <winman> user-land, right click on a panel and select "Add to Panel" ... its listed somewhere in the list of applets
[07:03] <notrash> a executeble file , like a script , has the "x" in his attribute list
[07:03] <RichEd> tx hawkaloogie
[07:04] <jrib> teicah: you hava dvdcss?
[07:04] <teicah> ill check
[07:04] <froop> is there anyway to reinstall grub from the live cd since the update seems to have nuked it from the MBR or something
[07:04] <teicah> dpkg -l|grep dvdcss .. nothing..
[07:04] <SanketMedhi> froop: sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[07:04] <teicah> so i must need it
[07:04] <subman> im trying to install Wolfenstien: Enemy Teritory, but it keeps saying:
[07:04] <subman> root/.setup5797: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannotopen shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:04] <subman> /tmp/selfgz5710/setup.sh: line 143:  5820 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@"2>>$NULL
[07:04] <subman> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[07:05] <teicah> what is the name of it? dvdcss?
[07:05] <jrib> !dvd > teicah
[07:05] <froop> cheers SanketMedhi
[07:05] <void^> IseeIsee: according to sun the extracted directory contains a readme file with instructions.
[07:05] <SanketMedhi> subman: you will need the 32 bit libraries
[07:05] <subman> ahh
[07:05] <subman> any way to find it?
[07:05] <Aarohi> cosmicShadow, any chance you might be on when Saarg gave the link to me? If you could scroll up please?
[07:05] <teicah> !dvd > teicah
[07:05] <Aarohi> I seem to have lost the link
[07:05] <SanketMedhi> !tab < subman
[07:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about tab < subman - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:05] <void^> IseeIsee: either way, all you need is having the patch to the bin directory containing javac and java in your PATH envrionment variable.
[07:06] <Ropechoborra> I got 3 Linux-Images: Linux-Image 2.6.15-23.39 / Linux-Image 2.6.15-25.43/ Linux-Image 2.6.15-26.45  wich one should i delete and wich not?
[07:06] <SanketMedhi> Aarohi: where from?
[07:06] <void^> IseeIsee: how to do that is left as an excercise for the reader
[07:06] <Aarohi> India SanketMedhi
[07:06] <SanketMedhi> Aarohi: where in india?
[07:06] <cosmicShadow> Aarohi: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79717.html
[07:06] <Aarohi> Jalandhar SanketMedhi . you?
[07:06] <rowanjl> shouldn't there be /etc/ld.so.conf file?
[07:06] <SanketMedhi> Aarohi: mumbai
[07:06] <Aarohi> cosmicShadow, thanks :-)
[07:06] <jrib> rowanjl: what do you mean "taht the libdevil packages are bad"?
[07:06] <Aarohi> k :-)
[07:07] <user-land> winman, i don't find it there, only CPU frequency monitor.
[07:07] <rowanjl> jrib: I mean that no matter where I looked, they didn't install the libs
[07:07] <rowanjl> so I've gone and built it myself
[07:07] <jrib> rowanjl: you've installed the libdevil1c2 package?
[07:07] <Shak-> how do I adjust my desktop environment settings? like add shortcuts to programs and folders on the desktop, modify the applications menu
[07:07] <rowanjl> jrib: yes
[07:08] <jrib> rowanjl: dpkg -L libdevil1c2
[07:08] <RichEd> and last noobie question ... under nautilus, in the places window, what determines the list order ? thought it would be alphabetical but it seems strange ///
[07:08] <hawkaloogie> Shak-, applications > Accessories > Alacarte Menu Editor (for menus), right-click and "Create Launcher" for desktop
[07:08] <winman> user-land, hmmm .. I think I installed a package for those applets to list up .. one sec, let me check
[07:08] <rowanjl> jrib: so, they are there, but why can't anything find them? I'm trying to build packages that need them...
[07:09] <Shak-> hawkaloogie: ah I see
[07:09] <RichEd> my home / then desktop / then File System <- so far so good
[07:09] <RichEd> then i get Common / kubuntu / edubuntu / XP-System
[07:09] <Shak-> hawkaloogie: how about a shortcut to a file/folder on one of my hard drives?
[07:09] <jrib> rowanjl: you need the corresponding -dev package for that: libdevil-dev
[07:09] <rowanjl> jrib: done...
[07:10] <rowanjl> jrib: which brings me to my current question, shouldn't there be a file /etc/ld.so.conf?
[07:10] <SanketMedhi> subman: I just remembered Wolf did not work for me too, I don't remember the error though
[07:10] <hawkaloogie> Shak-, click/drag, hold shift+ctrl, see the little chain? that creates a symbolic link (man ln)
[07:10] <zack_> i downloaded google earth and it came as a .bin  how do i install it?
[07:10] <SanketMedhi> subman: Try wolf enemy territory, works gr8
[07:10] <winman> user-land, sudo apt-get install hardware-monitor
[07:10] <Shak-> hawkaloogie: got it
[07:10] <cosmicShadow> zack_: chmod +x <filename>, ./<filename>
[07:10] <winman> this should get you more applets under listed
[07:11] <SanketMedhi> subman: or you can give it a try using Wine
[07:11] <zack_> thanks cosmic
[07:11] <jrib> rowanjl: I happen to have one, but I don't think you /need/ to have one
[07:11] <rowanjl> jrib: ok... so what options do I have? :/
[07:11] <jrib> rowanjl: what are you trying to build?
[07:12] <rowanjl> jrib: ogre
[07:12] <rowanjl> ogre3d
[07:12] <lud2k> hello again
[07:12] <Shak-> hawkaloogie: so the plus is a hard link, chain is symbolic, what about the arrow and question mark (shift,alt)
[07:13] <cosmicShadow> hey lud2k
[07:13] <senshine> is there a util that scans for wireless networks and lets me click to join..like winXP. Im not looking for kismet, this is for my parrents
[07:13] <lud2k> how can i make root the only user able to use ssh ?
[07:13] <hawkaloogie> Shak-, the plus is a copy, so on the same volume it could be a hardlink, but on a different volume it would have to physically move the file
[07:13] <cosmicShadow> lud2k: that has to deal with file permissions.
[07:13] <hawkaloogie> Shak-, don't know, i don't believe i've seen or used the arrow/question mark
[07:14] <Shak-> ah ok
[07:14] <majd> cosmicShadow, ok, that didn't work
[07:14] <majd> i encoded them, but some of the files were 196mb big
[07:14] <lud2k> cosmicShadow, where is the file :p ?
[07:14] <Shak-> hawkaloogie: last thing, how do I deal with file extension gtk program associations?
[07:14] <majd> and some were 13kb small
[07:14] <cosmicShadow> yuck...
[07:14] <angelika> i need some help
[07:14] <cosmicShadow> were you using the gstreamer0.8-mad or the gstreamer0.10?
[07:15] <majd> 0.8
[07:15] <angelika> i dont how to use this chat
[07:15] <angelika> help me
[07:15] <angelika> please
[07:15] <majd> angelika, what's the problem?
[07:15] <angelika> tell me sth bout gnome
[07:15] <hawkaloogie> Shak-, right-click, Open This File With... > there should be a new menu on the bottom
[07:15] <mlehrer_> you just type
[07:15] <matthewmcvickar> It's just like a room full of people who want to help you
[07:15] <mlehrer_> and people respond
[07:15] <mlehrer_> it's easy :)
[07:15] <cosmicShadow> lud2k: type sudo nautilus /usr/bin in a console
[07:15] <matthewmcvickar> :-)_
[07:15] <angelika> thats quite cool
[07:15] <jrib> rowanjl: hmm there is some ogre stuff in the universe repository it seems.  I don't know anything about ogre though.  The stuff in universe is not the same as ogre3d though?
[07:15] <matthewmcvickar> Yeah
[07:15] <matthewmcvickar> But don't tell anyone about it
[07:15] <matthewmcvickar> Then we'll have _way too many people_
[07:16] <matthewmcvickar> ;-)
[07:16] <lud2k> cosmicShadow i don't have graphical interface
[07:16] <angelika> okay
[07:16] <matthewmcvickar> So what's up?
[07:16] <rowanjl> jrib: it is, but 1.0.6, where as I have a minimum requirement of 1.2
[07:16] <angelika> nothin at all...
[07:16] <matthewmcvickar> Haha
[07:16] <hawkaloogie> lud2k, chmod go-x /usr/bin/ssh (chmod for Group and Others to remove eXecuting)
[07:16] <angelika> wasnt funny
[07:17] <cosmicShadow> lud2k: all right.
[07:17] <hawkaloogie> lud2k, this is assuming that root is the owner of /usr/bin/ssh
[07:17] <cosmicShadow> lud2k: go to /usr/bin/
[07:17] <nawty> anyone here using pptpd?
[07:17] <cosmicShadow> thanks hawk
[07:17] <angelika> since when do you use linux?
[07:18] <RichEd> .part
[07:18] <OK8> I'm somewhat in need of assistance. I just need to know whether it's possible to write on an NTFS partition from an another NTFS partition while running ubuntu on the liveCD.
[07:18] <OK8> i've managed to mount both of the partitions, but I get read-only partition when trying to write.
[07:18] <cosmicShadow> majd: try in the sound juicer preferences audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc vbr=4 preset=1001 instead of what they give in the wiki.
[07:19] <hawkaloogie> !ntfs
[07:19] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:19] <user-land> winman, this gives me percentage for the CPU only ...
[07:19] <nawty> pptpd ? poptop ?
[07:19] <hawkaloogie> OKB, linux has no reliable ntfs write-support yet. writing to an ntfs will probably cause data loss
[07:19] <epidemik> how can i tell what kernal i have installed
[07:19] <nawty> hawkaloogie: there was a note about it the other day that there is actually.
[07:19] <eigenlambda> depmod caught a signal 11 during installation of the new linux-image-686
[07:19] <hawkaloogie> OK8, i heard they're close though
[07:20] <winman> user-land, well I've got the same package running and the temperature monitor works great for me ...
[07:20] <cosmicShadow> hawk: not entirely true.  the linux-ntfs project just released some new stuff
[07:20] <eigenlambda> ...how do i rerun?
[07:20] <OK8> I'm somewhat desperate
[07:20] <epidemik> how can i tell what kernal i have installed
[07:20] <OK8> uname -a
[07:20] <lud2k>  /etc/ssh/sshd_config << there is "PermitRootLogin yes"
[07:20] <lud2k> is there anything like "DoNotPermitOtherThanRoot yes" ?
[07:20] <DShepherd> epidemik: unname -r
[07:20] <eigenlambda> epidemik: dpkg -l
[07:20] <DShepherd> epidemik: uname -r
[07:20] <jrib> rowanjl: some people here got some version to compile (I don't know which) on breezy, it might help you out: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90063 .  My other suggestions are to make sure it's not a problem with the versions of the libraries available in dapper, and to look at the source package for the current ogre to see if anything special had to be done
[07:20] <matthewmcvickar> I tried to install Ubuntu on my PowerBook and the installer crashed both times. I have no idea why. Here's a shot of the error it threw: I tried to install Ubuntu on my PowerBook and the installer crashed both times. I have no idea why. Here's
[07:20] <nawty> hawkaloogie: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15196
[07:20] <epidemik> which one lol
[07:20] <matthewmcvickar> Whoops
[07:20] <rowanjl> jrib: thanks
[07:21] <matthewmcvickar> I tried to install Ubuntu on my PowerBook and the installer crashed both times. I have no idea why. Here's a shot of the error it threw: http://driftingembers.com/ubuntu_crash.jpg
[07:21] <DShepherd> epidemik: uname -r #should work fine
[07:21] <epidemik> thanks
[07:21] <epidemik> u guys are so fast
[07:22] <hawkaloogie> nawty, it's about frickin time! now i can finally use my pendrive to full advantage
[07:23] <SanketMedhi> matthewmcvickar: are you sure your using a mac version?
[07:23] <lud2k> i've put DenyUsers USERNAME but it seem not to work :(
[07:23] <matthewmcvickar> SanketMedhi: Yes
[07:23] <winman> it would be really nice if gnubiff could support gmail and hotmail :P
[07:23] <SanketMedhi> hmm
[07:23] <matthewmcvickar> It got about 95% of the way through the installation
[07:24] <eigenlambda> hey matt
[07:24] <matthewmcvickar> Yes?
[07:24] <matthewmcvickar> Is that who I think itis?
[07:24] <eigenlambda> lol prolly
[07:24] <eigenlambda> ^_^
[07:25] <cosmicShadow> lud2k: cd /usr/bin, chmod 500 ssh
[07:25] <matthewmcvickar> Really?
[07:25] <majd> cosmicShadow, it's creating ~50mb files
[07:25] <majd> none which work
[07:25] <matthewmcvickar> Thomas?
[07:25] <eigenlambda> hm... i suppose you're using your powerbook now?
[07:26] <eigenlambda> would have been nice to see /var/log/installer/syslog
[07:26] <eigenlambda> ^_^ ya
[07:26] <lud2k> cosmicShadow: doesn't work :(
[07:26] <matthewmcvickar> Haha, awesome
[07:26] <eigenlambda> yey!
[07:26] <matthewmcvickar> What are you doing in here?
[07:26] <matthewmcvickar> What a coincidence
[07:26] <eigenlambda> ya rly!!
[07:26] <madpickle> no wai!
[07:26] <matthewmcvickar> Well, I can get the syslog
[07:26] <matthewmcvickar> Just a sec
[07:26] <lud2k> cosmicShadow: should i restart the service ?
[07:26] <_tom> anyone familiar with slmodemd?
[07:26] <cosmicShadow> huh...majd: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame
[07:27] <cosmicShadow> lud2k: yeah.
[07:27] <teicah> is there an app that will control what services run in different levels at bootup?  bum(advance) doesnt do it.
[07:27] <matthewmcvickar> What's the IRC program on Ubuntu?
[07:27] <matthewmcvickar> I'll just talk on the old Powerbook
[07:27] <SanketMedhi> which one are you using?
[07:28] <teicah> irssi
[07:28] <eigenlambda> xchat
[07:28] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:28] <SanketMedhi> matthewmcvickar: use Xchat or Gaim
[07:28] <_tom> xchat for IRC
[07:28] <eigenlambda> hehe
[07:28] <SanketMedhi> eigenlambda: lol?
[07:28] <cosmicShadow> matthew: xchat,gaim, weechat if you're in CLI
[07:28] <eigenlambda> lol @ discussing whats the best irc client
[07:28] <SanketMedhi> hmm
[07:28] <Tomatix> BitchX:P
[07:29] <eigenlambda> ^_^
[07:29] <SanketMedhi> !irc
[07:29] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[07:29] <SanketMedhi> !irc > matthewmcvickar
[07:29] <lud2k> yeeah working thx :)
[07:29] <eigenlambda> lol nice
[07:29] <kindor> is there a way to disable the applications menu for all users with eg gconf ?
[07:29] <cosmicShadow> lud2k: no prob :)
[07:29] <eigenlambda> !irc > eigenlambda
[07:29] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:29] <cosmicShadow> majd: still troubles?
[07:30] <majd> cosmicShadow, trying it again after the last sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame
[07:30] <jrib> kindor: try pessulus maybe
[07:30] <Whyvas> can you add LVM partitions to an existing installation with ext3 partitions on it?
[07:30] <cosmicShadow> majd: with lame, use audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc in the gstreamer line
[07:30] <kindor> jrib: tried that, didnt work, the menu isnt an option there
[07:30] <Tomatix> someone knows why I get this error when I try to compile a simple "hello world" program in Qt:  "main.cpp:1:24: error: QApplication: No such file or folder" "main.cpp:2:23: error: QPushButton: No such file or folder"  ?
[07:30] <kindor> jrib; but thanks
[07:30] <cosmicShadow> majd: and make sure to check the active box
[07:30] <yggdrasil> how do i change my hostmask in xchat ?
[07:31] <tcv> Hi, when someone responds with a "!something", what does that mean?
[07:31] <nawty> anyone using pptp on ubuntu ?
[07:31] <jrib> tcv: it activates the bot
[07:31] <SanketMedhi> tcv: type !something, you will understand
[07:31] <tcv> !something
[07:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about something - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:31] <nawty> ( as a server )
[07:31] <angelika> soooo boring!!!!!!!
[07:31] <SanketMedhi> lol
[07:31] <bicho> hello, i have any problem, when i turn on the computer, the dns settings is blank, then i put then again and work, but if i restart the machine i loss them. What happen?
[07:31] <tcv> OH!
[07:31] <tcv> AHAHA!
[07:31] <Tomatix> hey
[07:31] <eigenlambda> i wonder if keherman is here
[07:31] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:31] <tcv> thx
[07:31] <Spy_> hey how can i get lisp working on a lamp environment
[07:31] <SanketMedhi> Tomatix: hi
[07:31] <eigenlambda> umass represent!
[07:31] <matthewmcvickar> keherman?
[07:31] <eigenlambda> woo!
[07:32] <matthewmcvickar> Are you still here?
[07:32] <Tomatix> I was just asking a question... probably no one knows the answer
[07:32] <matthewmcvickar> I'm actually living up here for the summer
[07:32] <eigenlambda> lol nice
[07:32] <eigenlambda> im hanging out in newton 'cause i a n00b
[07:32] <matthewmcvickar> boo ya
[07:32] <matthewmcvickar> Who's that n00b
[07:32] <matthewmcvickar> That's me.
[07:32] <angelika> oh i've a question ...i've a problem with vlc.....it doenst connect me to other pc's...so i can't use my webcam!
[07:32] <angelika> what shall i do
[07:32] <MarcN> bicho: dhcp is probably replacing them.  Are you using DHCP to get an ip/dns/etc
[07:33] <tcv> !nothing
[07:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:33] <matthewmcvicka1> eiganlambda: Remember when I spilled water on my laptop? I'm trying to get that old one to run Tiger and Ubuntu
[07:33] <tcv> It just said, "I know nothing about nothing." Hmmmmm...
[07:33] <matthewmcvicka1> The Tiger part was easy :-P
[07:33] <eigenlambda> hehe
[07:33] <eigenlambda> lol prolly
[07:33] <stefg> angelika: better join #vlc  for that
[07:33] <matthewmcvicka1> Now Ubuntu is giving me guff
[07:33] <bicho> MarcN my ip is static
[07:33] <eigenlambda> ya rly!
[07:33] <madpickle> no wai!
[07:34] <trev__> can anyone tell me how to change my gtk theme
[07:34] <eigenlambda> ubuntu should jst install -_-
[07:34] <Tomatix> someone knows why I get this error when I try to compile a simple "hello world" c++ program with Qt:  "main.cpp:1:24: error: QApplication: No such file or folder" "main.cpp:2:23: error: QPushButton: No such file or folder"  ?
[07:34] <matthewmcvicka1> "Should" being the operative word here
[07:34] <eigenlambda> tiger gave me allot of grief on my parence mac
[07:34] <MarcN> bicho: make sure that /etc/network/interfaces does not show dhcp for your ethX device.
[07:34] <jrib> trev__: system > preferences > themes
[07:34] <senshine> is there a util that scans for wireless networks and lets me click to join..like winXP. Im not looking for kismet, this is for my parrents
[07:34] <majd> cosmicShadow, nope...it's just making 50+ mb of nothing
[07:34] <angelika> i joined vlc for that!
[07:34] <trev__> thx
[07:34] <teicah> trev__: system|preferences|theme
[07:34] <MarcN> senshine: install network-manager
[07:35] <senshine> apt-get install network-manager?
[07:35] <user-land> winman, what do you see in the preferences for this applet ?
[07:35] <eigenlambda> it made me have to totally wipe the hard drive 'cause apparently there was some kinda corruption that jaguar didn't even notice
[07:35] <bicho> the file is correct : iface eth0 inet static
[07:35] <bicho> address 10.1.1.2
[07:35] <bicho> netmask 255.0.0.0
[07:35] <bicho> gateway 10.1.1.1
[07:35] <bicho> nameserver 62.151.2.8
[07:35] <_stev_> I'm looking for a wireless expert
[07:35] <trev__> i think im asking the wrong thing, i want to make the buttons on webpages (like google) have rounded corners like in XP or Konquerer
[07:35] <eigenlambda> i pirated all the tools that are supposed to fix your hfs+ volume, and none of them worked
[07:35] <matthewmcvicka1> I did that anyway, 'cause I hard to partition the drive
[07:36] <matthewmcvicka1> haha
[07:36] <cosmicShadow> majd: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121658
[07:36] <matthewmcvicka1> So don't you have anything better to do than hang out in #ubuntu?
[07:36] <winman> user-land, global options, sensors ..Label Active sensors ... No of sensors ...
[07:36] <brandon_> do satellite receiver cards work in linux?
[07:36] <SanketMedhi> brandon_: yes
[07:36] <MarcN> senshine: sure, or this is what I used: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome network-manager-kde network-manager
[07:37] <sonotos> hi
[07:37] <MarcN> senshine: make sure you fix up /etc/network/interfaces afterwards
[07:37] <sonotos> is there any reason for not using ubuntu-dapper-server on a rootserver in the net?
[07:37] <trev__> does ubuntu have a firewall built in?
[07:37] <senshine> MarcN: why would i need to fic /etc/network.. what does this util do to it?
[07:37] <eigenlambda> i hang out on irc all the time
[07:38] <eigenlambda> actually, i was jst about to leave, but then i saw your nick
[07:38] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:38] <sonotos> trev__: you can use firestarter
[07:38] <matthewmcvicka1> haha
[07:38] <matthewmcvicka1> Good, you can help me
[07:38] <user-land> winman, under Hardware Monitor Preferences i only see: Devices, Viewer, Background ...
[07:38] <eigenlambda> ^_^
[07:38] <skavenge> trev__: yes, iptables, install firestarter for a gui
[07:38] <cosmicShadow> trev_: iptables is built-in, but really hard to configure.
[07:38] <eigenlambda> hopefully
[07:38] <matthewmcvicka1> Well I want to put the syslog up
[07:38] <matthewmcvicka1> gimme a second
[07:38] <MarcN> senshine: it probably should, but doesn't.  Make your /etc/network/interfaces have only two lines:   auto lo   and  iface lo inet loopback (comment everything else out)
[07:38] <piwi> hi there, I installed Asterisk PBX but I cant find it on my system....... How to launch it?
[07:38] <SanketMedhi> piwi: sudo asterisk
[07:39] <trev__> i have a nat firewall but if i use bittorrent i ahve to open some ports, would i then be vunerable to ahckers
[07:39] <piwi> thanks SanketMedhi
[07:39] <user-land> the 'Hardware Monitor' applet is listed in the end under 'Utility'
[07:39] <majd> cosmicShadow, trying it out....
[07:39] <matthewmcvicka1> what the?
[07:39] <piwi> SanketMedhi: errr I did this but nothing happens... I thought there would be a GUI showing up..?
[07:39] <cosmicShadow> majd: lemme know how it works.
[07:40] <matthewmcvicka1> var/log/installer No such file or directory?
[07:40] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:40] <SanketMedhi> piwi: asterisk does not have any gui by default
[07:40] <SanketMedhi> piwi: where from?
[07:40] <eigenlambda> 'k.  it also said /var/log/syslog
[07:40] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:40] <matthewmcvicka1> This is insane
[07:40] <eigenlambda> ya
[07:40] <piwi> SanketMedhi: France but living in London
[07:41] <eigenlambda> you have lots of bugs to file for ubiquity
[07:41] <matthewmcvicka1> that doesn't exit either
[07:41] <piwi> SanketMedhi: how can I make it work then, any suggestions? Sorry but Im total newbie with ubuntu
[07:41] <eigenlambda> oh dear
[07:41] <SanketMedhi> piwi: go to http://voip-info.org or http://asteriskguru.org
[07:41] <matthewmcvicka1> Perhaps because I'm running off the CD?
[07:41] <trev__> is there a gui for wine?
[07:41] <SanketMedhi> piwi: even if you're a champ in Ubuntu, you can't
[07:41] <eigenlambda> no, it should still be there
[07:42] <nicolito> Hello!! I have a laptop and I want to configure my graphics adaptor to get 3D support for games. In "lspci" it says Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[07:42] <eigenlambda>  /var should be mounted in ram
[07:42] <eigenlambda> lol @ directories having the same character as irc commands
[07:42] <piwi> SanketMedhi: lol sounds intersting then
[07:42] <SanketMedhi> piwi: bet it is
[07:43] <minerale> anyone here know about ssh?
[07:43] <minerale> the -g option when ssh'ing allows remote hosts to connect to local forwarded ports, is there something similar when forwarding remote ports locally ?
[07:43] <matthewmcvicka1> found it
[07:43] <matthewmcvicka1> Stupid Terminal
[07:43] <matthewmcvicka1> I just used File Browser instead
[07:43] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - anybody having problems with gtk-gnutella taking up 99% cpu on dapper ?
[07:43] <SanketMedhi> !ubiquity
[07:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubiquity - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:43] <SanketMedhi> hmm
[07:44] <}btorch{> hm hey I have created a partition with ubuntu dapper
[07:44] <eigenlambda> minerale: what do you mean?
[07:44] <kindor> is it normal that ubuntu desktop performance on a xeon server with ltos of ram is very slow in NX-sessions while system load remains low?
[07:44] <user-land> winman, so we use two different applets with the same name ?
[07:45] <}btorch{> I used debootstrap on that partition but now when I try to bring it up everthing system to start up ok but when it switches from rcS to rc2 after bring up syslog and klog I get garbase on my console
[07:45] <senshine> MarcN: After install where should i look? I dont see it in my menu
[07:45] <}btorch{> any ideas ? I'm using minicom
[07:45] <nicolito> Hello!! I have a laptop and I want to configure my graphics adaptor to get 3D support for games. In "lspci" it says Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[07:46] <eigenlambda> lol 855GM
[07:46] <winman> user-land, not sure, don't know why yours is different
[07:46] <eigenlambda> what does glxinfo say?
[07:46] <MarcN> senshine: see the PM I sent you.  Basically you need to add networkManager-applet to your panel.
[07:47] <piwi> SanketMedhi: sounds really exciting, thanks for the links! Im not sure to understand what free world dialup is... Basically its a free voip gateway??
[07:47] <nicolito> eigenlambda, many things
[07:47] <SanketMedhi> umm, my Ctrl+Alt+F1/2/3.... keys stopped working few days back. All other shortcuts with Ctrl+Alt are working fine. Any suggestions?
[07:47] <nicolito> where can I paste?
[07:47] <teicah> yum has 'yum list package' to find a package in repositories.. what would be the equivalent for apt-get?  i want to search for pan 0.103
[07:47] <eigenlambda> pastebin.ca
[07:47] <Matt-BR> Is possible disable that yellow descriptive tags from main bar?
[07:48] <skavenge> teicah: sudo apt-cache search packagename
[07:48] <Spy_> hey what commandline can i use to search for a file?
[07:48] <SanketMedhi> piwi: that's something trivial, look some info up voip-info
[07:48] <kintaro> guys..do you recommend LVM?
[07:48] <eigenlambda> Matt-BR: yellow descriptive tags?
[07:48] <SanketMedhi> piwi: btw, the other link was asteriskguru.com not .org
[07:48] <skavenge> Spy_: 'whereis file' , 'slocate file'
[07:48] <nitroflames> are there any quad G5 mac users in here?
[07:48] <piwi> SanketMedhi: cheers
[07:48] <teicah> skavenge: i tried that .. it doesnt return anything, so it must not be available
[07:48] <matthewmcvicka1> all right
[07:48] <Matt-BR> eigen: yes.. is a bit uncorfotable when navigating in aplications, places and system menus
[07:48] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: http://pastebin.ca/91498
[07:48] <_tom> nitroflames: you could have gotten more power... jk
[07:48] <skavenge> !info pan
[07:48] <ubotu> pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.14.2.91-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 3608 kB
[07:49] <nitroflames> tom: its my companies
[07:49] <teicah> i;ll stick with stabel 14.9.2
[07:49] <eigenlambda> Matt-BR: oooooh.... you mean tooltips?
[07:49] <nitroflames> company's
[07:49] <matthewmcvicka1> here's the crash log of when I tried to install Ubuntu: http://pastebin.ca/91498
[07:49] <Matt-BR> eigenlambda: yup
[07:49] <nicolito> eigenlambda, http://pastebin.ca/91499
[07:49] <SanketMedhi> My first question here ...... My Ctrl+Alt+F1/2/3.... keys stopped working few days back. All other shortcuts with Ctrl+Alt are working fine. Any suggestions?
[07:49] <skavenge> teicah: its in main, 'sudo apt-get install pan' if you want that version the bot listed
[07:49] <Matt-BR> eigenlambda: I want kill this forever :)
[07:49] <eigenlambda> hm
[07:50] <teicah> skavenge: ok
[07:50] <_tom> i'm still waiting for the 2-dual core intel board...
[07:50] <theBishop> is there a way to set up keyring so i don't have to type a password in for NetworkManager to access an encrypted network?
[07:50] <eigenlambda> i don't know how to kill gtk tooltips, maybe theres a gconf option somewhere?
[07:50] <eigenlambda> cp: writing `/target/etc/modules': No space left on device
[07:50] <Matt-BR> eigenlambda: I no found in options I already looking all the options sad that is nothing about
[07:51] <eigenlambda> maybe you can do something with gtkrc?
[07:51] <eigenlambda> lol... try hacking libgtk to remove that functionality
[07:51] <Matt-BR> :( bit complex for me :(
[07:51] <iqon> how do i play swf's in a movie player?
[07:51] <imsai> i installed plustek instead, now my epson 1250 scanner , when i try to scan it coms a sound from the scanner then it hangs, must ctrl+c to stop it, anyone knows what this can be ?
[07:51] <Seveas> iqon, you don't
[07:52] <SanketMedhi> iqon: you can't
[07:52] <nitroflames> does anyone know if dapper drake supports dual, dual core G5's?
[07:52] <user-land> winman, what you installed is different, it's called 'sensors-applet'.
[07:52] <eigenlambda> matthewmcvickar: is your disk full?
[07:52] <iqon> can i convert swf to a movie with ffmpeg?
[07:53] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: that's impossible
[07:53] <eigenlambda> lol prolly
[07:53] <winman> user-land, hmmm ...
[07:53] <eigenlambda> well, according to the log, that's what ubiquity thinks...
[07:53] <SanketMedhi> iqon: I don't think you can anything with swf
[07:53] <eigenlambda> or rather, cp thinks that
[07:53] <teicah> is there an app that will control what services run in different levels at bootup?  bum(advance) doesnt do it.
[07:53] <eigenlambda> um
[07:53] <SanketMedhi> iqon: except playing them in a browser
[07:53] <eigenlambda> try 'df -h'
[07:53] <eigenlambda> and tell me what it says
[07:53] <matthewmcvicka1> Me?
[07:53] <iqon> SanketMedhi: and i can't pause them there
[07:54] <SanketMedhi> iqon: if the swf doesn't allow to, you can't
[07:54] <matthewmcvicka1> that's entirely possible
[07:54] <nicolito> eigenlambda, the exit of glxinfo is :http://pastebin.ca/91499
[07:55] <DBO> nicolito, im sorry to butt in, are you working on Xgl here?
[07:55] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: http://pastebin.ca/91506
[07:55] <SanketMedhi> DBO: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:56] <DBO> SanketMedhi... thanks, I op there =P
[07:56] <nicolito> DBO I have a problem using my display adapter: I have no 3d Acceleration
[07:56] <matthewmcvicka1> But I'm still here!
[07:56] <SanketMedhi> DBO: then why here?
[07:56] <matthewmcvicka1> don't worry
[07:56] <DBO> nicolito, ok, what display adapter
[07:56] <DBO> SanketMedhi, his problem looked very similar to an issue we often get over there
[07:56] <SanketMedhi> ok
[07:57] <mirak> beagle sucks
[07:57] <Warbo> I find it does
[07:57] <nicolito> DBO: in lspci it says: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[07:57] <DBO> crap, ok hold
[07:57] <Jazon> hi everyone.  i cannot figure out how to get acpi / powermanagement working for my laptop (NEC i-Select).  I would appreciate any help
[07:57] <warlocky-> how do I install .deb files again? :o
[07:57] <eigenlambda> warlocky-: dpkg -i
[07:57] <Warbo> warlocky-: Double click on them
[07:58] <mrDaniel> @jozon: maybe you need to fix your acpi-dsdt
[07:58] <warlocky-> ok eigenlambda
[07:58] <mrDaniel> search the wiki for 'dsdt' or 'acpi'
[07:58] <mrDaniel> there is also a website with fixed dsdt's
[07:58] <trev__> is there a virtual drive program for ubuntu
[07:58] <Warbo> trev__: What do you mean?
[07:59] <trev__> like deamon tools
[07:59] <mrDaniel> @trev__: you mean a programm which can simulate a cd-rom-drive?
[07:59] <trev__> yep
[07:59] <DBO> nicolito, lemme see your xorg.conf in pastebin please
[07:59] <froop> wooo fixed... lets hope the updates don't nuke grub again :\
[07:59] <skavenge> trev__: you just mount the iso
[07:59] <trev__> ok, cool
[07:59] <mrDaniel> this isn't neccesary in the linux world: just mount your .iso data
[07:59] <trev__> thats awsome
[08:00] <skavenge> its like mount - o loop -iso9660 /mountpoint or something near that, dont qoute me
[08:00] <Warbo> Is there any way to simulate a CDROM drive? So it can receive eject signals without screwing up and stuff?
[08:00] <mrDaniel> but with the right options: google for 'mount .iso'
[08:00] <eigenlambda> matthewmcvicka1: are you trying to install on /dev/hda8 ?
[08:02] <matthewmcvicka1> no
[08:02] <foo> Is there a ubuntu server edition if I want to install it on my server? Or, what do you guys recommend?
[08:02] <skavenge> foo: yes, there is ubuntu server
[08:03] <matthewmcvicka1> ethe drive should be partitioned into 2 parts
[08:03] <Warbo> foo: You get the alternate CD and give it "server" as a boot option
[08:03] <matthewmcvicka1> and i'm trying to install on the larger portion
[08:03] <SanketMedhi> Foo: yes there is
[08:03] <foo> Hm
[08:03] <nicolito> DBO my xorg.conf is in pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/91511
[08:03] <foo> Warbo: Alternate CD? Hm
[08:03] <johnm1019> what are some ways to see if you have a 3d driver loaded as opposed to the software driver?
[08:03] <Jeruvy> foo: there is a smaller server iso also
[08:03] <Warbo> foo: Text based, for people who don't/can't use the graphical one
[08:03] <eigenlambda> nicolito: iirc your chip uses the i915 driver
[08:03] <Warbo> Is there? OK then
[08:03] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: which i partitioned with Os X's drive utility into an HFS volume and a free space volume
[08:03] <DBO> nicolito, why did you comment out Load    "dri" ??
[08:04] <eigenlambda> ok
[08:04] <SanketMedhi> foo: http://ubuntu.com/download choose any mirror, select alternate server iso for download
[08:04] <foo> SanketMedhi: thanks!
[08:04] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: then i tried to install onto the free space one
[08:04] <skavenge> OR the server cd
[08:04] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: So I don't know what to do...
[08:04] <eigenlambda> sounds about right
[08:04] <skavenge> you dont have to have the alternate
[08:04] <SanketMedhi> foo: np
[08:04] <Warbo> johnm1019: "glxinfo | grep direct"
[08:04] <trev__> i click on a .iso and it tries to extract it like a archive, how do i mount it
[08:04] <Warbo> !iso
[08:04] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:04] <eigenlambda> according to ubiquity, there are hella more than two partitions there
[08:04] <eigenlambda> though
[08:04] <skavenge> trev__: read ubotu's first line
[08:05] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: Yeah, I don't have any idea why
[08:05] <nicolito> eigenlambda, what does iirc means??
[08:05] <trev__> thx
[08:05] <eigenlambda> ooooh, i understand
[08:05] <skavenge> if i remember correctly
[08:05] <eigenlambda> it's old mac cruft
[08:05] <eigenlambda> lol
[08:05] <skavenge> (iirc)
[08:05] <nicolito> DBO, I dont know, have I to uncomment??
[08:05] <matthewmcvicka1> holy shit
[08:05] <matthewmcvicka1> I went into GParted
[08:05] <matthewmcvicka1> it's a mess
[08:05] <Warbo> !language
[08:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:05] <DBO> nicolito, line 36
[08:05] <matthewmcvicka1> sorry
[08:06] <Warbo> np
[08:06] <fonk_> Hi! Does anyone know if STR is working with a 12" powerbook oder is just suspend to disk available?
[08:06] <eigenlambda> whats it say?
[08:06] <matthewmcvicka1> the first two installation attempts have all sort of cruft in them
[08:06] <nicolito> DBO, should I uncomment it?
[08:06] <matthewmcvicka1> there are nine partitions all of sudden
[08:06] <DBO> nicolito, yes
[08:06] <eigenlambda> ya
[08:07] <nicolito> DBO, and what to do about the i915 driver eigenlambda just told me?
[08:07] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: So where do I go from here?
[08:07] <DBO> nicolito, you shouldnt really need it
[08:07] <Aven> hi
[08:07] <Warbo> hello
[08:07] <eigenlambda> matthewmcvicka1: the first few are mac stuff like the partition map and stuff
[08:07] <Aven> i need help with 915resolution
[08:07] <Aven> my computer used to always detect resolution everytime I reboot
[08:07] <Aven> now it's not anymore
[08:08] <eigenlambda> then, macos is probably installed on hda4 or hda5?
[08:08] <Aven> it goes to 800x600 :\
[08:08] <nicolito> DBO, so only uncomment "dri" and restart??
[08:08] <matthewmcvicka1> hda3
[08:08] <eigenlambda> lol rly?
[08:08] <skavenge> 915resolution is crap imo, jacked my system i reinstalled vesa
[08:08] <Aven> how would I set 915resolution to use a resolution?
[08:08] <DBO> nicolito, that would be a first step yes
[08:08] <eigenlambda> it's /dev/disk0s5 on my pristine tiger here
[08:08] <eigenlambda> lol
[08:08] <eigenlambda> anyway
[08:08] <eigenlambda> that only explains 3
[08:08] <matthewmcvicka1> I don't mind starting over from scratch
[08:09] <matthewmcvicka1> Reinstalling Tiger and whatnot
[08:09] <nicolito> DBO, let me try it. Thanks
[08:09] <eigenlambda> well, if 1,2,3 are tiger stuff
[08:09] <eigenlambda> and the rest is useless
[08:09] <matthewmcvicka1> do we know that for sure?
[08:09] <matthewmcvicka1> about 1 2 3?
[08:09] <eigenlambda> 1 is the partition map
[08:09] <bagpuss_thecat> anyone know why md0 would appear as hda1 instead?
[08:09] <eigenlambda> i forget what apple's excuse for 2 is
[08:09] <matthewmcvicka1> haha
[08:10] <matthewmcvicka1> but no
[08:10] <matthewmcvicka1> hda2 is the 40 gig partition I left empty for Ubuntu
[08:10] <bagpuss_thecat>  / is on md0, and it's working fine, yet mount and df show / as being hda. cfdisk shows hda as being my Windows disk
[08:10] <eigenlambda> huh
[08:11] <matthewmcvicka1> hda1 is unknown
[08:11] <Warbo> bagpuss_thecat: Is md0 a CF drive or something?
[08:11] <matthewmcvicka1> hda2 is ext3 and the 40 gigs i left empty
[08:11] <matthewmcvicka1> hda3 is the hfs+
[08:11] <bagpuss_thecat> Warbo: software raid
[08:11] <eigenlambda> hda1 is apple_partition_map... wonder where apple_driver_ata and apple_patches went...
[08:11] <Warbo> bagpuss_thecat: Ah. Well, I am not familiar with it (I am with LVM though)
[08:11] <matthewmcvicka1> I'll just start over
[08:11] <bagpuss_thecat> no worries
[08:12] <eigenlambda> matthewmcvicka1: well, if you're going to start over, you might as well blow away all the partitions you don't think are doing anything and installing there
[08:12] <eigenlambda> lol
[08:12] <cello_rasp> how do i find out my machines IP address
[08:12] <Warbo> cello_rasp: ifconfig
[08:12] <sloucher> cello_rasp ifconfig
[08:13] <eigenlambda> hm
[08:13] <mnp> is anyone familar with intel ICH4 chipsets/soundcards not being recognized? crimsun, and spec were helping me yesterday, but i got stuck with and acpi issue?
[08:13] <mnp> cello:
[08:14] <smoe> Hello, can anybody here help me recovering a fat-table?
[08:14] <mnp> hi smoe. i dont think i can.
[08:14] <smoe> mnp: pitty
[08:14] <mnp> doesnt look like many people are participating right now. im a noobie looking for some help with an intel ICH4 chipset module
[08:14] <Warbo> smoe: There is a tool for that, I forget it's name now though. Let me try and think...
[08:14] <mnp> my soundcard isnt recognized in ubuntu
[08:15] <mnp> any experience with that?
[08:15] <Whyvas> what card is it
[08:15] <kindor> how can i prevent users from changing the desktop and adding starters on it?
[08:15] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: I'm going to start with a blank hard drive, actually
[08:15] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: i don't have any experience with your specific card, but I'll do what i can to help
[08:15] <mnp> whyvas: its an intel ICH4 chipset, using thei ntel8x0 driver
[08:15] <kyncani> smoe: *after* making a backup, you might try fsck.vfat ?
[08:15] <matthewmcvicka1> So here that goes
[08:16] <eigenlambda> have fun!
[08:16] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: matthewmcvickar will still be online, matthewmcvicka1 is signing off
[08:16] <mnp> ballpointcarrot - id appreciate any help you can offer
[08:16] <eigenlambda> i hope you have better luck this time
[08:16] <eigenlambda> 'k
[08:16] <smoe> kyncani: after backing up what?
[08:16] <matthewmcvicka1> well, you can help me through it ;-)
[08:16] <kyncani> smoe: the entire partition
[08:16] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: esentially, we found out that my soundcard isnt being assigned an IRQ, and trying to resolve that we ran into a problem because i boot with acpi=off
[08:17] <kyncani> smoe: like dd /dev/hda2 /somewhere/backup.img
[08:17] <smoe> kyncani: well, its empty now. should i use dd?
[08:17] <Warbo> smoe: I was thinking of "gpart", is that the kind of thing you mean? (It's in Universe)
[08:17] <kyncani> smoe: well, if its empty, just format the partition again ?
[08:18] <`Evil`> Got a problem, everytime I boot Ubuntu it hangs right after I enter my pwd at login, or else at the login screen it freezes, any help?
[08:18] <mnp> `Evil`: where does it freeze?
[08:18] <Warbo> `Evil`: You tried the "safe" GNOME mode?
[08:18] <smoe> Warbo: no, i tried gpart already. it only recovers partitiontables. but i still have the partitions. i made mkfs.vfat -n "somelabel" /dev/sdc5
[08:18] <Jibby> Is it possible to have both nvidia (nvidia-glx) and ati (fglrx) installed at the same time?
[08:18] <eigenlambda> Jibby: why would you want that?
[08:18] <smoe> Warbo: i only wanted to rename the partitions
[08:19] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: try running with the 'noapic' option
[08:19] <Warbo> smoe: OK, when you said "table" I thought that was what you were after :)
[08:19] <mnp> i tried no apic
[08:19] <`Evil`> mnp, Warbo, Right at the login screen, even when I go to select sessions it freezes
[08:19] <Warbo> `Evil`: Graphics driver problem?
[08:19] <Jemt> Greetz. Can someone help me with Firestarter (firewall) ? If I open a port, will that apply to both TCP and UDP ?
[08:19] <`Evil`> The screen turns blank (with ubuntu background color) and horizontal lines running across
[08:19] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: i tried acpi=_rq_isa=7, pci=noacpi, pci=noapic, acpi=noirq
[08:20] <`Evil`> Warbo, I installed all the drivers ans was using it for a week now
[08:20] <Warbo> Jemt: Just to let you know, the firewall is "iptables" and it is always running in the background, so you only need Firestarter running when you want to reconfigure it :)
[08:20] <mnp> `Evil`: i'm still new at this, and dont know how much i can help you
[08:20] <Jemt> Warbo: Yea, I know it's just a front-end :)
[08:21] <smoe> kyncani: no chance to backup. much to big. i will try in dry-mode
[08:21] <Warbo> Jemt: Of course you may want a glowing icon in your system tray :)
[08:21] <`Evil`> Warbo, BTW my comp at bootup nowadays gives the error "CPU Frequency reset, CMOS defaults loaded" and I dont even touch the battery or anything, could it be cos of that?
[08:21] <`Evil`> mnp, no thanks :)
[08:21] <Dinerty> hey all :)
[08:21] <Jemt> Warbo: I prefer that, yes. That's not my problem though :)
[08:21] <`Evil`> *mnp, np
[08:21] <matthewmcvickar> And it's officially 90
[08:22] <Jemt> I need to know whether a port applies to both TCP and UDP, or only TCP
[08:22] <finalbeta> Some programs (logincontrol, flashfxp using WINE) don't get a place in the GNOME taskbar. Can this be fixed?
[08:22] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: have you tried 'pci=usepirqmask'?
[08:22] <eigenlambda> lol
[08:22] <mnp> nope
[08:22] <eigenlambda> ya its rly warm rite about now
[08:22] <Peng007> hello
[08:22] <eigenlambda> matthewmcvickar: did you like all the rain lst month?
[08:22] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: ill paste bin the command line i use for boot up. will you check that and make sure its right?
[08:22] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: what system are you running on?
[08:22] <mnp> !pastebin
[08:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:22] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: i prefer rain to heat
[08:23] <eigenlambda> i like rain allot
[08:23] <eigenlambda> but heat is good too
[08:23] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: Heat is the worst, 'cause can't escape it
[08:23] <eigenlambda> heat makes me to feel flexible
[08:23] <Warbo> `Evil`: I have had loads of random crashes with non-Free drivers for a few cards, but they usually lock the screen up so I have to kill the power. I was going to suggest maybe a problem with GDM config files, but even that wouldn't screw up the display
[08:23] <eigenlambda> i am studying to do a split
[08:23] <eigenlambda> so
[08:23] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: Wow
[08:23] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: do you have you computer make/model #'s?
[08:23] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: Okay, so how should I partition this bad boy?
[08:24] <Peng007> guys, anyone to tell me whereI can get helpfiles for postfix on ubuntu?
[08:24] <mnp> its an asus s1300n
[08:24] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: its an asus note book model s1300n
[08:24] <Warbo> Peng007: /usr/share/docs?
[08:24] <jpjacobs> Peng007, man postfix?
[08:24] <Peng007> is postfix available there ?
[08:24] <eigenlambda> give the beginning of your drive to the mac parts and put linux at the end?
[08:24] <Peng007> I was going to download it seperately,
[08:24] <smoe> kyncani: no. fsck.vfat only finds one file. much to few :-( any other suggestions?
[08:25] <jimcooncat> can I import pdf's into oowriter or abiword?
[08:25] <eigenlambda> ::shrug:: that's what i did long ago back when i had a 2GB hard drive and was sharing it between macos 8.6 and debian 3
[08:25] <eigenlambda> lol
[08:25] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: Should I format the second partition as Unix File System?
[08:25] <eigenlambda> no need to format it
[08:25] <jimcooncat> or is there a pdf editor available?
[08:25] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18285
[08:26] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: Leave it as Free Space?
[08:26] <eigenlambda> ya
[08:26] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: what happens if you type sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0?
[08:26] <Warbo> jimcooncat: Acrobat probably has the most features, but it's butt-ugly. I have heard people complain about Evince's lack of editing though
[08:26] <eigenlambda> ubuntu will probably want to partition it anyway to have a swap partition
[08:26] <eigenlambda> iirc
[08:26] <Warbo> jimcooncat: I am not sure whether Acrobat has edit functionality either though
[08:26] <matthewmcvickar> so I'm about to partition the drive into two parts
[08:26] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: the module loads as far as i can tell. that is, it doesnt return an error
[08:26] <eigenlambda> hey guys, does ubuntu use a swap partition, or does it try to use a swap file like macos?
[08:27] <eigenlambda> matthewmcvickar: sounds about right
[08:27] <Warbo> Swap partition if it is there
[08:27] <skavenge> its a partition
[08:27] <friend32e321> hey... whats the best way to stream my mp3 files from my linux box over to my windows box such that I can use the "play" command in ssh and it'll play on my windows box?
[08:27] <jimcooncat> Warbo, thanks, but is Acrobat even in the repos?
[08:27] <MarcN> eigenlambda: swap partition is preferred, but swap files are possible if you know how to do it.
[08:27] <Warbo> jimcooncat: No, you may have to find a package of it or get it from Adobe.com
[08:27] <eigenlambda> matthewmcvickar: maybe you want to set aside a third partition for linux swap?
[08:27] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: take a look at this page (http://www.tuxmobile.org/asus_s1300n.html) you might need to patch your acpi
[08:28] <jimcooncat> Thanks Warbo, I'll just paste a screenshot of the page in oowriter
[08:28] <matthewmcvickar> once i get to the ubuntu installation will it know how to do that?
[08:28] <Warbo> friend32e321: Maybe set up an Icecast server?
[08:28] <ryanakca> is there a way not to receive mail from Cron / Crontab?
[08:28] <MarcN> friend32e321: setup rhythmbox to share your music and then use iTunes on windows to access the music.
[08:28] <eigenlambda> it should
[08:28] <mwe> well you can create a file in oo.org and export it to pdf
[08:28] <friend32e321> MarcN, this isnt on a LAN
[08:28] <eigenlambda> i wonder if macos can use a swap partition
[08:28] <Warbo> You could always scribble on the screen
[08:28] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: How big should I make that third partition?
[08:29] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[08:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:29] <eigenlambda> twice as big as your ram
[08:29] <eigenlambda> is the usual size
[08:29] <existance_> could someone help me figure out if http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G6SG6S/104-0217792-1171953?v=glance&n=541966 would run Ubuntu?
[08:29] <eigenlambda> ::shrug::
[08:29] <Peng007> it did not ask me root password during install
 can I logon as root ?
[08:29] <skavenge> !root
[08:29] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:29] <eigenlambda> Peng007: why do you want to login as root?
[08:30] <eigenlambda> if you need a root shell, sudo bash
[08:30] <eigenlambda> lol
[08:30] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda:  Okay, so here's my setup
[08:30] <existance_> Peng007, i don't think the root password is set if you haven't set it yet
[08:30] <eigenlambda> prolly theres a better way to do that
[08:30] <mwe> sudo bash?
[08:30] <ryanakca> existance_: My guess is yes.. but don't take my word for it... ask around :)
[08:30] <apokryphos> sudo -i is the recommended method
[08:30] <mwe> why not sudo -i like it's meant to be used?
[08:30] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: first partition: Mac OS unjournaled, 15 gig
[08:30] <eigenlambda> lol
[08:30] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: 2nd: free space 38g
[08:30] <eigenlambda> 'cause i can never remember -i when i need a root shell
[08:30] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: 3rd: free space 2g
[08:30] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: how's that?
[08:31] <Warbo> existance_: 56K modems are bad news if they are built in. Also I don't know if Windows XP will work in Ubuntu, you may need to virtualise it :)
[08:31] <FeestBijtje> !webcam
[08:31] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:31] <eigenlambda> does linux have full rw access to hfs+
[08:31] <mwe> I think so yes
[08:31] <existance_> Warbo, you mean, you don't know if dual-booting will work?
[08:31] <mwe> eigenlambda: provided you mount it properly I think
[08:32] <eigenlambda> matthewmcvickar: you might want to give macos the larger partition, and put files you want to share between linux and macos on it
[08:32] <existance_> Is there a good source for laptops that don't have windows installed on them?
[08:32] <matthewmcvickar> Hmm
[08:32] <Warbo> existance_: Dual booting should be fine, I was just looking through the "features" list and noticed Windows :)
[08:32] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: thanks ill take a look at the page now
[08:32] <Zabi> Hi i have installed Xubuntu on my machine which is an Amd X2 3800.The version of Xubuntu i installed is X86 one.............can change over to the Amd 64 bit version of Xubuntu without insatlling  it form the install CD......something like apt-get or something
[08:32] <Jeruvy> existance: many
[08:33] <skavenge> Zabi: nope, its a full reinstall
[08:33] <Zabi> ohh :(
[08:33] <existance_>  Jeruvy , sorry to be a bit snappish, but are you going to lord the knowledge over my head or tell me a few?
[08:33] <skavenge> amd64 version is an entirely different iso
[08:33] <Warbo> existance_: www.system76.com
[08:33] <mwe> Zabi: be warned that the 64bit version is not as mature as the 32bit version either
[08:33] <existance_> Warbo, gracias
[08:34] <skavenge> Zabi: your probably better off with the 32 bit unless you feel like doing alot on workarounds for flash, java, etc
[08:34] <enyc> help ;-)
[08:34] <existance_> Warbo, eek, those are pretty expensive
[08:34] <Zabi> well would i be at a disadvantage using the X86 version?
[08:34] <enyc> I want to know how to see the output of those ! help-messages
[08:34] <Jeruvy> existance: :) well first of all I'd avoid the major vendors, unles they officially support linux.  In your community there should be many companies that sell custom PC's and/or laptops.  Or can sell these without OS built in especially.
[08:34] <matthewmcvickar> Okay
[08:34] <matthewmcvickar> I'll do that
[08:34] <matthewmcvickar> all right
[08:34] <matthewmcvickar> mac 35g, free 15g, free 2g
[08:34] <Zabi> any sort of feature i am missing
[08:34] <Zabi> ?
[08:34] <enyc> erm... myself... or see which are available etc.
[08:34] <mwe> Zabi: no features missing
[08:34] <enyc> !help
[08:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:35] <deadly_rythm> hi, i want to compile gdesklets and it says i need pygtk-2.0 although i installed python-gtk2, what can i do?
[08:35] <enyc> aaaaaaah ;-)
[08:35] <mwe> Zabi: native 64bit is faster, theoretically though
[08:35] <Warbo> existance_: I know, but only by REALLY bulk buying can manufacturers sell them cheap, and the only ones who can bulk buy like that are the likes of Dell, who are in exclusive licences with M$
[08:35] <matthewmcvickar> All right
[08:35] <Zabi> ok mwe,skavenge thank you :)
[08:35] <existance_> Warbo, i guess that makes sense..
[08:35] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: shall I partition?
[08:35] <Jeruvy> existance: there are even OEM build laptops that you can get through many resellers very reasonably.
[08:35] <eigenlambda> gogogo
[08:35] <deadly_rythm> hi, i want to compile gdesklets and it says i need pygtk-2.0 although i installed python-gtk2, what can i do?
[08:35] <Warbo> existance_: You could always try to get a refund on Windows
[08:35] <eigenlambda> en taro adun
[08:35] <mwe> Zabi: you'll be fine with the 32bit version. that's what I would use, personally
[08:35] <matthewmcvickar> hahaha
[08:35] <Jeruvy> Warbo: LOL
[08:36] <Warbo> deadly_rythm: What's wrong with the one in Ubuntu?
[08:36] <LoneShadow> anyone using logitech quickcam pro 4000 ?
[08:36] <existance_> Warbo, i've tried with Dell on the phone and they wouldnt do it :(
[08:36] <deadly_rythm> where is that warbo?
[08:36] <Warbo> !info gdesklets
[08:36] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[08:36] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: Okay, partitioned. Now I install OS X?
[08:36] <Warbo> !universe
[08:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:36] <eigenlambda> pretty much
[08:36] <matthewmcvickar> Here we go then
[08:37] <Jeruvy> existance: if you bought from dell, why di you not get a linux box?
[08:37] <matthewmcvickar> It's 93 degrees
[08:37] <matthewmcvickar> about 95 in my room
[08:37] <existance_> existance, i didn't buy from dell, I don't have a laptop yet :( I've just tried to get them to take it off the lappy when ordering
[08:37] <Warbo> Jeruvy: Don't they only do Linux on servers? I thought they got in trouble with Linux on desktop/workstation and M$ threatened to take away their license
[08:37] <existance_> existance, yes i am talking to myself.
[08:37] <kindor> why does gnome-session depends on the power management deaemon?
[08:38] <Jeruvy> Warbo: I dunno, I'd never buy from dell ;)
[08:38] <Warbo> eBay :)
[08:38] <existance_> Jeruvy, they have decent lappy deals every once in a while
[08:38] <alephant> Hey all
[08:38] <alephant> I have a Debian (testing) system which I'd like to convert to Ubuntu
[08:38] <Warbo> existance_: That's true, my Dad has sold on some cheap ones after the deals ended :)
[08:38] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: This will take about 40 minutes to install
[08:38] <eigenlambda> lol prolly
[08:38] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: Unfortunately.
[08:38] <mwe> alephant: back up and reinstall
[08:38] <deadly_rythm> hmm cant find that warbo
[08:39] <mlehrer_> Warbo: dell makes some linux models.  microsoft makes them pay for windows on a per-model basis (only slightly better than per processor) so they can't offer dual boot or anything like that
[08:39] <alephant> yeah, no kidding :-)
[08:39] <deadly_rythm> neither in aptitude nor in add/del packages
[08:39] <Warbo> deadly_rythm: System>Administration>Software Properties I think
[08:39] <jrib> existance_: I believe if you never boot windows you can get a refund, but check with dell and google for that, I remember reading a few sites about it
[08:39] <wsjunior> how do i change the default system charset?
[08:39] <eigenlambda> i am trying to pirate this game
[08:39] <eigenlambda> and i'm just missing one 512k block
[08:39] <mwe> alephant: honestly I think it would be the easiest and safest option
[08:39] <alephant> I've got sd{a,b} in a raid array
[08:39] <Warbo> eigenlambda: Wow, what a great way to get help...
[08:39] <deadly_rythm> need to add a backport?
[08:39] <eigenlambda> im not asking for help
[08:39] <Warbo> deadly_rythm: No, just Universe
[08:40] <eigenlambda> im just complaining about bittorrent
[08:40] <alephant> and a bunch of LVs on top of this md1
[08:40] <eigenlambda> always being 99.x complete
[08:40] <eigenlambda> ^_^
[08:40] <alephant> so is it possible (and then, ?advisable?) to try and reuse my RAID/LVM config durin an Ubuntu install?
[08:40] <wsjunior> how do i change the default system charset?
[08:40] <Aven> hello
[08:40] <mwe> alephant: since most packages are newer versions in sarge they won't upgrad when you substitute the mirrors
[08:40] <alephant> yeah yeah
[08:40] <alephant> I'm not asking that, thanks :b
[08:40] <Aven> how can I make ubuntu redetect my resolution? cause it's set to 800x700, it used to detect more.
[08:41] <jrib> !fixres > Aven
[08:41] <Warbo> alephant: Only the alternate install CD supports LVM and stuff
[08:41] <alephant> How well does the alternate install CD?
[08:41] <alephant> work
[08:41] <Aven> jrib: what about xfce? :P
[08:41] <alephant> ?
[08:41] <Aven> I don't gnome or kde
[08:41] <Warbo> alephant: The alternate CD is basically the same as the Debian installer
[08:41] <teicah> i have a few gigs worth of pics(jpg).. i want to backup.  do i have to read about iso stuff, or will burn:/// in nautilus suffice?
[08:42] <ballpointcarrot> teicah: you should be fine just burning it.
[08:42] <alephant> So is it going to be possible/safe to try and reuse my existing md/LVM config in the ubuntu installer?
[08:42] <mat> hi folks. How dod i edit the grub loader file?
[08:42] <jrib> Aven: you should read the link, restarting X probably won't change anything
[08:42] <alephant> e.g. mdadm --reassemble (?) and then lvscan
[08:42] <Aven> can you send the link again? sorry :P
[08:42] <Warbo> alephant: You can reuse your physical volumes, volume groups and logical volumes, but you will need to format the LVs
[08:42] <deadly_rythm> hmm i added ubutnu community maintained (universe)
[08:42] <ballpointcarrot> mat: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:43] <mat> thanks
[08:43] <jrib> Aven: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:43] <vincenz> !ubuto skype
[08:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto skype - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:43] <vincenz> !ubuto .de
[08:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto .de - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:43] <vincenz> !ubuto .deb
[08:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto .deb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:43] <alephant> Warbo, and the Ubuntu alternate installer works the same as the Debian installer?
[08:43] <Warbo> deadly_rythm: Try looking in the "advanced" of add/remove (synaptic)
[08:43] <vincenz> !skype
[08:43] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:43] <teicah> ballpointcarrot: ok, now is it better to copy the original jpgs or is it better to roll them into a tar.bz2?
[08:43] <jrib> !fishing
[08:43] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[08:43] <Warbo> alephant: Yes, text based
[08:43] <alephant> Thanks, Warbo!
[08:43] <Warbo> np
[08:44] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: i found some of the patches i need, but they are .tar.bz2 files, how do i install these in ubuntu?
[08:44] <Warbo> !compile
[08:44] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:44] <LX2000> hello
[08:44] <Warbo> hello
[08:44] <ballpointcarrot> teical: for a cd backup, it shouldn't really matter
[08:44] <teicah> ok
[08:45] <ballpointcarrot> teicah: if you leave them as jpegs, then you can stick it into some models of dvd player and have a slideshow
[08:45] <deadly_rythm> hmm cant find that
[08:45] <wsjunior> how do i change the default system charset?
[08:45] <Warbo> deadly_rythm: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gdesklets"
[08:46] <Warbo> deadly_rythm: Type that in a terminal
[08:46] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: all right, you're digging into some tough territory... rebuilding kernels and such.
[08:46] <mnp> indeed
[08:46] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: so whats the next step?
[08:46] <kindor> grr how do i get rid of the power management stuff?
[08:46] <teicah> next.. say.. i burn the images to cd.. i preview them in the burnt cd/dvd w/gthumb and all of them showup fine.. few days later i get input/output error when trying to copy/view the backups to hd.. what gives?
[08:46] <deadly_rythm> got that :)
[08:47] <ballpointcarrot> teicah: how would you be copying them over? nautilus?
[08:47] <teicah> yes  nautilus
[08:47] <teicah> are the images corrupted, or the cd drive gone bad?
[08:47] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: bear with me, i haven't rebuilt kernels in ubuntu yet.  *puts on gentoo hat*
[08:48] <Warbo> I/O error usually means bad disc
[08:48] <teicah> i guess i could test the backup on another computer
[08:48] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: i had a friend who uses gentoo who helped me for a few hours the other week. we ended up downloading a kernel and loading all kinds of stuff to try and get it to work, but we didnt have that patch
[08:48] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: we were working from the ALSA page and following the instructions from there.
[08:49] <Aven> can someone help me?
[08:49] <Aven> how can I start a fresh new xorg.conf?
[08:49] <Warbo> mnp: If you want help with compiling then gentoo users can certainly help you :)
[08:49] <Aven> I configured it wrong
[08:49] <erUSUL> !fixres > Aven
[08:49] <Warbo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:49] <mnp> Warbo: thanks. hes just not around.
[08:49] <Aven> erUSUL: that won't help
[08:49] <erUSUL> Aven: use the last link of the msg ubotu gave you
[08:49] <Aven> no GDM right now
[08:49] <Aven> the problem is
[08:49] <Aven> I have no idea what to put for dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:50] <shigutso> how do I login with my ADSL internet in Linux? using wich program?
[08:50] <mat> hi again: thanks: how do i add the universe repository?
[08:50] <wsjunior> how do i change the default system charset?
[08:50] <Warbo> Aven: What kind of graphics card do you have?
[08:50] <erUSUL> Aven: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:50] <jrib> !universe > mat
[08:50] <CubeMystic> anyone have an idea why this morning's kernel update would've caused my mouse to move slower in X?
[08:50] <mnp> why doesnt ubuntu allow you to recompile the kernel ?
[08:50] <Le_Pigeon> Assalaamu'alaikum
[08:50] <jrib> !kernel > mnp
[08:50] <Warbo> shigutso: What model of medem
[08:50] <Spec> !kernel > spec
[08:50] <wsjunior> CubeMystic: that happened here too..
[08:50] <Warbo> mnp: Erm... apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15?
[08:50] <Spec> it doesn't say you can't recompile the kernel
[08:50] <erUSUL> Aven: the new reconfigure for xserver can autodetect most of the things iirc
[08:50] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: it does, but it doesn't give you the development tools out-of-the-box.  You have to get them for yourself
[08:50] <CubeMystic> wsjunior: what mouse?
[08:50] <wsjunior> CubeMystic: i just reinstalled the kernel and everything is normal now..
[08:51] <shigutso> Warbo, DLink, I think... but i don't want to rout it... just like Windows, only make a login, with username and password
[08:51] <deadly_rythm> thx a lot warbo
[08:51] <wsjunior> CubeMystic: my touchpad
[08:51] <Warbo> deadly_rythm: np
[08:51] <Aven> Warbo: I have no idea what card
[08:51] <CubeMystic> wsjunior: hmm, did you remove it first?
[08:51] <Warbo> Aven: Run "lspci"
[08:51] <CubeMystic> wsjunior: or just dpkg -i?
[08:51] <Aven> erUSUL: well, it gives me a list of drives to use
[08:51] <wsjunior> CubeMystic: sudo apt-get reinstall
[08:51] <erUSUL> Aven: find out with lspci
[08:51] <Aven> what do I choose?
[08:51] <Aven> ok
[08:51] <CubeMystic> wsjunior: ahh, k
[08:51] <vincenz> Anyone know a good client for doing multi person voice communication???
[08:51] <amigo2132> hmm. is there any way to have the linux "play" command output to shoutcast?
[08:52] <amigo2132> vincenz, ventrilo
[08:52] <test> Hi. How can I make my mounted drive icons appear in a different place, like in a folder for instance?
[08:52] <Warbo> shigutso: Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsbAdslModem maybe?
[08:52] <amigo2132> vincenz, but you need to set up a server too. its very simple though
[08:52] <vincenz> amigo2132: need ports open for that?
[08:52] <amigo2132> vincenz, yes, one.
[08:52] <mnp> jrib: okay, so i dont think i want to get into compiling the kernel after reading that page. should i file a bug report?
[08:52] <shigutso> Warbo, thx, gonna see :)
[08:53] <Administrator> can anyone help me with some ralinktck wifi drivers
[08:53] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: i don't know how well i would be able to explain this over IRC.  I can give you a wiki page on kernel building though: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:53] <jrib> mnp: a bug report for?
[08:53] <amigo2132> vincenz, also max 8 people per server with the free version, and you cant choose the port
[08:53] <vincenz> btw...anyone know why skype 1.3 really makes funky static sound as if it's lagging really badly
[08:53] <mnp> jrib: for my soundcard not being recognized
[08:53] <Administrator> vincenz, it's your sound drivers
[08:53] <Le_Pigeon> hello I need some help about boot on ubuntu
[08:53] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: i looked at that page. and dont think i really want to get into that
[08:53] <vincenz> Administrator: how is that fixe?D
[08:53] <Warbo> Le_Pigeon: What's wrong?
[08:54] <Administrator> vincenz, skype has info on their site you have to use an older driver
[08:54] <jrib> mnp: that sounds bug worthy to me
[08:54] <Administrator> can someone help me with some drivers if anyonek nows
[08:54] <vincenz> Administrator: thx
[08:54] <QMario> !Wireless
[08:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[08:54] <Administrator> qmario
[08:54] <Administrator> it's n ot that
[08:54] <mwe> Administrator: you are you looking for a wifi driver for your card or what?
[08:55] <finalbeta> Some programs (logincontrol, flashfxp using WINE) don't get a place in the GNOME taskbar. Can this be fixed?
[08:55] <Le_Pigeon> Warbo I hav 2 OS, XP n ubuntu... N I need to make the default boot XP, how do I do that?
[08:55] <Administrator> qmario, I have a seriouls prob
[08:55] <Administrator> no I have all drivers
[08:55] <QMario> !Help
[08:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:55] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: just for the sake of asking - run alsamixer and check the levels
[08:55] <Administrator> I have drivers for xp and linux native
[08:55] <mwe> Administrator: so what is the problem?
[08:55] <QMario> Yeah, what is the problem?
[08:55] <Administrator> mwe, the comp frezzes when i hit configure and I have to restart
[08:55] <Warbo> Le_Pigeon: Tehre is a file /boot/grub/menu.lst which controls GRUB (the bootloader). Move the Windows entry above the Ubuntu ones and it should be booted by default
[08:55] <mat> sudo apt-get install 855resolution
[08:55] <mat> that says not found
[08:55] <mat> but it is installed?
[08:56] <skavenge> its 915resolution now
[08:56] <mwe> Administrator: then you're probably using a broken driver or there is a conflict. check the log files
[08:56] <Le_Pigeon> ok thx Warbo
[08:56] <Warbo> Le_Pigeon: You can edit it with the command "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[08:56] <mwe> Administrator: what driver are you using and what card is it?
[08:56] <Administrator> mwe, I've tried alot, I am on amd64 kernal and I'm using http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm
[08:56] <mat> sudo apt-get install 955resolution
[08:57] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: alsamixer wont run
[08:57] <Administrator> when i try to complie it says files not found even thought I can see them in natualus
[08:57] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[08:57] <mat> count d find package 955 resolution
[08:58] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: ok - just wanted to make sure we weren't going down the wrong alley because something was on mute :)
[08:58] <Administrator> is there anyway I can disable the linux drivers and use xp drivers with ndis? because their instructions for comping just don't seem to work to well for me
[08:58] <mnp> yeah, been struggling with this for a while
[08:58] <skavenge> i repeat, 915resolution
[08:58] <mnp> it looks like that webpage you sent is the right way to go in terms of the patch for acpi
[08:58] <eminux> Hi
[08:58] <mat> oh sorry!
[08:58] <eminux> I've a question
[08:58] <mnp> because thats the problem im having. i have to shut acpi off to load.
[08:58] <mwe> Administrator: hmm.
[08:59] <Administrator> mwe, I know, is thee a way to find out how to make it shut off in the kernal and use ndis?
[08:59] <Warbo> eminux: Ask away
[08:59] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: i'm afraid that seems to be the way to go then.  but kernel building isn't for the faint-hearted.
[08:59] <mnp> so i hear
[08:59] <eminux> I'd like to load bttv module with option card=27 tuner=5
[08:59] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: so i hear, the quesiton is, is there another way to skin that cat?
[08:59] <Warbo> I found building a kernel quite easy, but I would have no idea how to patch one
[08:59] <mwe> Administrator: is ndiswrapper available for 64 bit?
[08:59] <test>  Hi. How can I make my mounted drive icons appear in a different place, like in a folder for instance?
[08:59] <eminux> I insert "option bttv card=27 tuner=5" in /etc/modules.conf
[09:00] <Administrator> I have it installed
[09:00] <mwe> Administrator: I see
[09:00] <eminux> but my option are not viewed
[09:00] <eminux> why?
[09:00] <Administrator> mwe, I even have the graphical intrface installed
[09:00] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: 'fraid not.  maybe trying some other pci boot options.
[09:00] <mwe> Administrator: well you can black list the linux module and use ndiswrapper instead
[09:00] <eminux> how can I load my module with my options?
[09:00] <Warbo> test: Well... I know that you can use your Home folder as your desktop, so that is probably one way to put them in a different folder (but it's not a general solution)
[09:00] <mnp> where can i find a list of them. i figure trying each exhaustively will probably be easier than recompiling
[09:00] <Administrator> mwe, ya i want to try anything that will work, how do I find it to blacklist it
[09:01] <mnp> ballpoint where can i find a list of them. i figure trying each exhaustively will probably be easier than recompiling
[09:01] <mwe> Administrator: make sure you use a recommended driver though. ndiswrapper.sf.net
[09:01] <Administrator> I tryed modprobe -l but didn't know what it was and acidently disconected my wired eithernet
[09:01] <mwe> Administrator: what's the module name, do you know?
[09:01] <Administrator> mwe, I don't know, i've been looking for the name so i can disable it
[09:01] <test> Warbo: I actually wanted them to appear in my external drive folder. Can I make a link in that respect and somehow disable them from appearing on my desktop?
[09:02] <skavenge> the command is ndiswrapper -l, and modprobe ndiswrapper .. not modprobe -l
[09:02] <ballpointcarrot> mnp:http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO.html
[09:02] <Shinzetsu> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on an USB HDD?
[09:02] <mwe> Administrator: well lsmod and dmesg and /var/log/syslog might help
[09:02] <t-thing> Hi. Howto make mutt execute a command when new mail arrives?
[09:03] <Warbo> test: You would probably need to write some form of script. Maybe use ls on the mount points, pipe it through grep -c then if it is greater than zero it will create a symbolic link, and when it is equal to zero the link is removed
[09:03] <Administrator> mwe, i did that stuff and have had trouble since I don't know how it works
[09:03] <Warbo> Shinzetsu: I am running from a USB HD
[09:03] <Spec> Shinzetsu: yes
[09:03] <Warbo> Shinzetsu: Does your PC support booting from USB? If not then you will need a boot CD
[09:03] <Administrator> maybe I could use ifconfig ra0 and see if i can do it, if anyone knows how to walk me threw that I hope that maybe thatwon't crash jmy sytem like the graphical way
[09:03] <test> Warbo:  That is an awesome idea. I'll look into that one. Thanks.
[09:04] <mwe> Administrator: well you just type lsmod and look for a name. dmesg might suggest the name or syslog
[09:04] <Shinzetsu> Thing is I built the (before) USB HDD into my PC and when I try to install on in my PC locks up
[09:04] <Spec> Warbo, Shinzetsu: my laptop didn't support booting from cd - bu ti booted off my internal harddrive's grub, loaded the kernel from the internal harddrive, then mounted the USB harddrive as /(root)
[09:04] <Shinzetsu> Yes it does
[09:05] <Shinzetsu> I can boot from HDD, CDVD, Network, Floopy and USB
[09:05] <Warbo> Shinzetsu: I have actually installed to USB HD perfectly well before, but when I upgraded to Dapper I just copied across all of the files from a regular installation. Both ways worked (but I needed to find out how to make a boot CD, then wrote it up on the Wiki)
[09:05] <Spec> lucky :p
[09:05] <Administrator> mwe, ok, I have to reboot to do that I have to be in windows to connect online, I'm looking for the doumentation to see if it will work on 64 since some people have had trouble
[09:05] <Frankenstein> hi, im trying to figure out what linux driver i need for a Corega WLUSB-11 mini2 does anyone know where i can find this
[09:05] <Zabi> I am trying to have new themes for xfce of xubuntu...i copy my themes to /usr.share/themes/  but i do not see them in my windows manager setting window...
[09:05] <mwe> Administrator: frankly the 32bit version is still much more mature
[09:06] <Toaster54> hi
[09:06] <Spec> mwe: but the 32bit version can't support 64bit wifi cards sometimes?
[09:06] <ballpointcarrot> zabi: /usr/share/themes?
[09:06] <Administrator> can't it be compied?
[09:06] <mwe> Spec: 64bit wifi cards? are they bit specific?
[09:06] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: no acpi option in http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO.html
[09:06] <Zabi>  ballpointcarrot:yep
[09:07] <Frankenstein> hi, im trying to figure out what linux driver i need for a Corega WLUSB-11 mini2 does anyone know where i can find this
[09:07] <ballpointcarrot> mnp: check under the pci= options
[09:07] <mwe> Spec: don't they use a completely different protocol, independent of the cpu?
[09:07] <mnp> yeah, only pci=noacpi
[09:07] <Spec> mwe: yes
[09:07] <Zabi>  ballpointcarrot:how would you install a new theme? i want to know if i am correct
[09:07] <yggdrasil> hello, anyone here know how to use irssi to connect thru a proxy ?
[09:07] <Spec> mwe: but it seems if you have a 64bit system you need to use the 64bit version of the driver for the wifi card
[09:07] <whitesuit> hi, e-mail client do you guys usually use?
[09:07] <mnp> ballpointcarrot: okay, thanks for yoru help. ill give it a shot.
[09:07] <Spec> mwe: there *are* different 32bit/64bit versions, i don't know why
[09:07] <whitesuit> *which email
[09:08] <Administrator> Spec, they dohn't give me any precompied things
[09:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> Thunderbird for my email
[09:08] <Zabi> i see a themename.xfce file in the pack how do i use it?
[09:08] <test> whitesuit: Kmail all the way.
[09:08] <mwe> Spec: oh yes, the driver needs to match of course
[09:08] <Administrator> spec, I have tried so hard, I have been working for over 7 hours on this
[09:08] <Spec> mwe: but if you're 32bit distro is on a 64bit machine, it's hard to get the wireless drivers to work -- if it's a 64bit distro on a 64bit machine, you use the 64bit driver and it works fine
[09:08] <Spec> mwe: damn english, s/you're/your
[09:08] <Administrator> I have 64 on 64
[09:08] <Spec> so what's the problem?
[09:08] <Administrator> spec, nothing works
[09:08] <Spec> Administrator: what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[09:08] <Administrator> my systme crahes when i try to config
[09:09] <whitesuit> heh i'm using evolution..it seems to enconde characters in a strange way when i send mail to mailing lists and go see how it turned out in mailman web interface
[09:09] <Jack_Smirnoff> whitesuit did you get that.. thunderbird, from the makers of firefox..
[09:09] <Spec> Administrator: nothing i can do to help you, random crashing = report a bug, i don't have any 64bit hardware to play with
[09:09] <Administrator> spec, ndis wraper doesn't have any drivers in it beecause the linux ditro finds the card
[09:09] <Spec> oh, okay
[09:09] <mwe> Spec: oh. I thought 64bit linux is not mature enough for me yet. but if it can do wifi in 32bit mode it's a different story.
[09:09] <Spec> well, stop using the distro's module and try to use ndiswrapper and see if it still crashes
[09:09] <Spec> mwe: i don't think it can
[09:09] <Administrator> spec, http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm on he forms 64 peple have mad eit work
[09:09] <test> Kmail Kmail Kmail.
[09:09] <whitesuit> Jack_Smirnoff: thunderbird doesn't have native support for gpg :(
[09:09] <mwe> Spec: if it cannot I meant of course
[09:10] <Spec> mwe: yeah, 64bit linux is still lacking
[09:10] <Administrator> spec, alrigth I'm going to diable it will it be listed under ra0?  because I was told how to find it but I'm not sure
[09:10] <ardchoille> What is the proper command to add a user to the admin group?
[09:10] <mwe> Spec: yeah.
[09:10] <ballpointcarrot> zabi: did the theme come in a .tar.gz or a .tgz or a .tar.bz2 archive?
[09:10] <Spec> Administrator: no, it won't be ra0 if you disable it
[09:10] <Administrator> and i have diabled suff before that I didn't know how to do trying to make ti work
[09:10] <Spec> Administrator: using ndiswrapper it'll probably be wlan0
[09:10] <mwe> Spec: I say a year or so probably and will improve
[09:11] <Administrator> spec, I'm going to go and do a mod probe lke mwe said and find ra0 and then mach the module?
[09:11] <Spec> mwe: yeap, if i had 64bit hardware i'd run a 32bit OS
[09:11] <Spec> sure
[09:11] <Administrator> I am really frustrated I'm really sorry and am frorgeting stuf
[09:11] <Shinzetsu> Ah now I know
[09:11] <Shinzetsu> Ill try it with a 160 GB USB HDD
[09:11] <Zabi>  ballpointcarrot:a tar i extracted it
[09:11] <mwe> Administrator: not modprobe. lsmod
[09:12] <Administrator> so check the log and find something like wireless or ra0? so sort threw the long logs? after lsmod what will i see I have to restart my machine to get to it so I need to be ready
[09:12] <Wikipedia-Gast46> why
[09:12] <Administrator> so lsmod will bring up active stuff?
[09:12] <curumo> no
[09:13] <ballpointcarrot> so you took a tarballed theme, extracted it to /usr/share/themes, and now you need to figure out how to use it?
[09:13] <mwe> Administrator: it will show the modules that are loaded
[09:13] <test> Why not just drop it in the theme manager window?
[09:13] <Administrator> mwe, should I just restart a few times and come back and tell you guys what it says?
[09:13] <curumo> why
[09:13] <Administrator> because I can't use lsmod right now since i'm on windows the only system that connects to the internet
[09:13] <Zabi>  ballpointcarrot:yep...i thought i would find it in the window manager setting .but i dont see it
[09:14] <curumo> why
[09:14] <SogniX> is there a way that I can launch Linux apps (from my linux box) on another computer, say Windows or OS X? I vaguely remember someone doing it via telnet/ssh or something like that some time ago
[09:14] <Administrator> so lsmod and I'll use past bin and come back, is that cool?
[09:14] <curumo> Administrator sucks
[09:14] <mwe> Administrator: well maybe. make sure to paste dmesg as well
[09:14] <_marshall> hey guys
[09:14] <ballpointcarrot> zabi: what theme?  it might be broken.  I just tried the same method (and inadvertently switched).
[09:15] <Administrator> dmesg and lsmod
[09:15] <_marshall> is there a command to see all of the directories that an app has stored its files?
[09:15] <Administrator> sigh, alright I'll be back thanks so much people
[09:15] <curumo> Administrator sucks
[09:15] <mwe> _marshall: no I don't think there is
[09:15] <_marshall> lol
[09:15] <ballpointcarrot> zabi: do you have gnome-theme-manager?
[09:15] <_marshall> mwe: damnit
[09:15] <mwe> _marshall: what do you want?
[09:16] <_marshall> mwe: im trying to see where Listen (the media player) keeps its podcasts
[09:16] <Imvikky> hi guys could anyone help me with how to install Apache/MySQL/PHP/PHPMyAdmin on my Ubuntu Hoary installation do I need to download it or I can do it from synapatic
[09:16] <Zabi> ballpointcarrot:the lunar theme form http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/lunar-linux/
[09:16] <Le_Pigeon>  Warbo There's still a problem
[09:16] <mwe> _marshall: oh
[09:16] <Zabi> ballpointcarrot:i am using xfce woud gnome theme manager work for me?
[09:16] <existance_> Imvviky, look for LAMP install guide
[09:16] <Imvikky> hi guys could anyone help me with how to install Apache/MySQL/PHP/PHPMyAdmin on my Ubuntu Hoary installation do I need to download it or I can do it from synapatic
[09:16] <mwe> _marshall: it's often ~/.<PROGRAMNAME> or something similar
[09:16] <Imvikky> wher will I get it
[09:16] <existance_> Imvikky, google?
[09:17] <curumo> why
[09:17] <tailsfan> soundcore I don't think is installed in my system, is there any way to get it?
[09:17] <Imvikky> do you have a link for it... I googled
[09:17] <_bt> Imvikky, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-17875.html
[09:17] <ballpointcarrot> zabi: if you have gnome-theme-manager, open it, and drag the theme tarball into the window.  that'd install the theme
[09:17] <curumo> why
[09:17] <Sanne> Imvikky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:17] <curumo> why
[09:17] <t-thing> Howto make mutt execute a command when new mail arrives? [first & last re-entry] 
[09:17] <curumo> why
[09:18] <TaF> how do i load and use the snd_intel8x0 module? i think this might solve my sound problem for good.
[09:18] <curumo> why
[09:18] <Zabi> ballpointcarrot: you sure that works for xfce too?
[09:18] <ballpointcarrot> TaF: sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[09:18] <t-thing> could someone kick curumo?
[09:18] <Zabi> ballpointcarrot: or does xfce have a theme manager
[09:18] <ballpointcarrot> Zabi: yeah.  both are GTK-based
[09:19] <Zabi> ballpointcarrot: :ohh ok
[09:19] <curumo> why
[09:19] <mwe> TaF: well sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 should load it if that's the name of the module
[09:19] <ballpointcarrot> so it stores it in common gtk themespace
[09:19] <LjL> !ops
[09:19] <curumo> why
[09:19] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:19] <curumo> why
[09:19] <ardchoille> !dma > ardchoille
[09:19] <mwe> TaF: to load a module at boot time put the name in /etc/modules
[09:19] <apokryphos> hm, annoying user
[09:19] <TaF> ok, mwe probably closer to what i need to do
[09:20] <TaF> only problem is... it says not found
[09:20] <TaF> i guess i thought it was part of alsa
[09:20] <mwe> TaF: then it's not it
[09:20] <mwe> TaF: modprobe -l|grep snd and look for the name
[09:20] <ubuntu> test one, two, three
[09:20] <nyk2005> Do I get the UserAgent's resolution somewhere in the request? I see it sometimes in stats, but my firefox doesn't seem to send any resolution. Does anyone know something about this?
[09:21] <test> hi ubuntu
[09:22] <polpak> nyk2005, nope.. you have to get that w/ javascript
[09:22] <PanicFo> what would be considered the best place to find gnome themes?
[09:22] <polpak> !theme
[09:22] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:23] <PanicFo> thnx :)
[09:24] <nyk2005> polpak: ah, so I have a javascript add the resolution as a request param so I can get it from serverside scripts..
[09:24] <Beawolfe> Can someone please refresh my memory on how to mount the other Hard drives on my system into the Ubuntu OS Please?
[09:25] <mwe> !mount
[09:25] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[09:25] <Dinerty> cya all
[09:26] <Shinzetsu> I got an AMD Athlon 64 3700+. Does it matter if I get the x86 or 64b versions?
[09:26] <mwe> yes
[09:26] <mwe> get the 32bit version the 64bit version is not mature enough yet imo
[09:26] <elknof3> he
[09:27] <Shinzetsu> Hm alright
[09:27] <ballpointcarrot> Shinzetsu: the x86 version will be more stable, and the 64-bit will be more native, but at the cost of stability
[09:27] <Shinzetsu> Okay thanks, ill get the x86
[09:27] <Beawolfe> well that didn't work so now what?
[09:28] <TaF> i did a search online and the closest thing i could find to solving my problem was a guy who had to load the snd_intel8x0 module to get his sound card to work. i want to try this..where do i begin?
[09:28] <_bt> Beawolfe, what disk are you having trouble mounting
[09:28] <Shinzetsu> Is there any difference between the CD and DVD versions?
[09:28] <pepsi> one is big
[09:28] <Blissex> TaF: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#troubles here
[09:28] <pepsi> the other isnt so big
[09:29] <Sanne> Shinzetsu: if you want to read a bit about 64bit Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=134 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=amd64&titlesearch=Titles
[09:29] <Beawolfe> the windows XP disc and a spare Fat32 disc for storage and transfer between Ubuntu and Win XP
[09:29] <pepsi> Shinzetsu, but seriously, the dvd is bootabl
[09:29] <Shinzetsu> I know, but is there any difference?
[09:29] <Shinzetsu> Thanks Sanne
[09:29] <Sanne> Shinzetsu: you're welcome :)
[09:30] <Shinzetsu> So are there any differences between the CD and DVD versions of Ubuntu 6.06?
[09:30] <imsai> Some kind soul that would please help me with "sane" "scanner" problem ?
[09:31] <TaF> thankx blissex, i have been everywhere, that site seems to have more info than most ive visited
[09:31] <Beawolfe> I went to the Ubuntu wiki page and did a search for mounting or hard drives and it came back with nothing
[09:31] <Sanne> Shinzetsu: I'm in the proccess of building a new 64bit system and I think I'll make the switch to 64bit Dapper. But what I read, it may involve some tinkering for some programs not yet available for 64bit.
[09:31] <OneSeventeen> how do I list the number of processes currently running via the command line?
[09:31] <pepsi> Shinzetsu, not once its installed, no.. the dvd probably has more packages on it, so you might have to download less once you install it
[09:31] <finalbeta> Anyone knows if their are plans to port XGL/Compiz seen on SLED10 to ubuntu?
[09:31] <Shinzetsu> Ah
[09:31] <gdb> OneSeventeen: ps -ef | wc -l
[09:32] <OneSeventeen> gdb thanks!
[09:32] <Shinzetsu> Ill be able to switch between GNOME/KDE/XFCE whenever I want right?
[09:32] <gdb> OneSeventeen: :-)
[09:32] <imsai> My scanner sounds weird it makes a noise when i'm trying to scan, then it hangs
[09:32] <ttyfscker> does anyone know why my flash player isnt accessing my webcam / mic, they get detected, but they wont work. I have my flash settings to allow webcam and mic..I have tried running firefox as root just to see if the flash would access the hardware then, still no good.. anybody???
[09:32] <pepsi> Shinzetsu, you just have to install the kubuntu-desktop or whatever pacakge to KDE, etc
[09:32] <Shinzetsu> imsai: Does your scanner have a firmware?
[09:33] <Shinzetsu> Yeah thats the problem, I havent tried out any, so instead of getting Kubuntu or Xubuntu I think ill just get normal Ubuntu and try them out
[09:33] <yggdrasil> hehe
[09:33] <imsai> Shinzetsu: yes i have configured all thing, with backend
[09:33] <Shinzetsu> imsai: Did you flash it recently?
[09:33] <Sanne> Shinzetsu: also, most programs from one desktop will run fine on the other desktops (in case you don't know that)
[09:33] <gdb> I honestly don't get the direction KDE has gone.
[09:33] <Shinzetsu> Alright :-)
[09:33] <imsai> Shinzetsu: no
[09:34] <Shinzetsu> imsai: Have you used Windows before? Did it work on Windows?
[09:34] <imsai> Shinzetsu: this is my device : device `plustek:libusb:005:008' is a Epson Perfection 1250/Photo USB flatbed scanner
[09:34] <_3fg> Can someone help me configure a wireless card?
[09:34] <imsai> Shinzetsu: yes it worked on win, it even worked on debian 2 years ago
[09:34] <Fracture> anyone use reiserfs4 with dapper ?
[09:35] <Shinzetsu> imsai: http://daniel.fiser.cz/?go=epson1250
[09:35] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: still around?
[09:35] <eigenlambda> ya
[09:35] <imsai> Shinzetsu: thx, i did follow that allready ;)
[09:35] <eigenlambda> lol
[09:35] <eigenlambda> ^_^
[09:35] <eigenlambda> whats up?
[09:35] <Shinzetsu> Ah, soz
[09:35] <matthewmcvickar> installed os x
[09:35] <matthewmcvickar> now for ubuntu
[09:35] <eigenlambda> niec
[09:35] <_3fg> Can someone help me configure a wireless card?
[09:35] <AlinuxOS> hello, after reinstalling windows I have no more grub,I've booted live CD...and would like to install my grub to MBP, can somone help me ?
[09:36] <imsai> Shinzetsu: been stuck with this for 8 hours now, hehe
[09:36] <Beawolfe> _bt my main thing is to atleast get the Fat32 Storage drive mounted so I can move stuff between Ubuntu and Win XP
[09:36] <Shinzetsu> imsai: Do you speak german? I found a german site that I think may help you
[09:36] <Sanne> gdb: what don't you like about KDE? I recently tried Kubuntu Dapper live cd and so far, liked what I saw. But I didn't test long.
[09:36] <imsai> Shinzetsu: maby i can translate it with babelfish
[09:36] <Shinzetsu> Someone on a forum had the same problem as you and it was a kernel issue, but the solution is in german
[09:37] <Shinzetsu> http://www.linux-club.de/viewtopic.php?t=11568&sid=483630d9ad8b603d2907a849351b840a
[09:37] <imsai> Shinzetsu: thx mate !
[09:37] <Blissex> TaF: also try #ALSA for sound problems...
[09:37] <Shinzetsu> imsai: youre welcome :-D
[09:37] <_3fg> Shinzetsu: can you help me set up my wireless card?
[09:37] <imsai> Shinzetsu: ah, been there :)
[09:37] <ballpointcarrot> _3fg: what type of card?
[09:38] <_3fg> Linksys
[09:38] <Shinzetsu> _3fg: Well, I know about Wireless NIC's, but I never used Linux before :-(
[09:38] <AlinuxOS> hello, after reinstalling windows I have no more grub,I've booted live CD...and would like to install my grub to MBP, can somone help me ?
[09:38] <TaF> thanx, i wouldnt have thought to look there
[09:38] <_3fg> Linksys Wireless G PCI adapter with speed booster
[09:38] <ballpointcarrot> what style of card is it
[09:38] <skavenge> !grub
[09:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:38] <_3fg> I don't know where to look in the device manages to find it
[09:38] <ballpointcarrot> PCI/USB/PCMCIA
[09:39] <_3fg> PCI
[09:39] <Shinzetsu> imsai: Did you install that official backend?
[09:39] <ballpointcarrot> ok.
[09:39] <ballpointcarrot> _3fg: one second
[09:39] <eigenlambda> i hear 'fud' is norwegian for 'ass'
[09:39] <imsai> Shinzetsu: yes
[09:39] <eigenlambda> lol
[09:39] <imsai> ubuntus backend
[09:39] <_3fg> ballpointcarrot: k
[09:39] <imsai> Shinzetsu: ubuntus backend
[09:40] <Shinzetsu> Im reading here about some SANE EPSON Backend
[09:40] <Shinzetsu> I think SANE is an other Linux distro
[09:40] <Cirvin_Fox> how to i slelect the primary sound card if my system has more than one?
[09:40] <imsai> Shinzetsu: okey
[09:40] <ballpointcarrot> _3fg: you'll probably need to get the proprietary drivers from linuxant (www.linuxant.com)
[09:40] <LjL> Shinzetsu: no, SANE is the scanner driver backend that's universally used on Linux systems
[09:40] <_3fg> how can I get them if I can't connect?
[09:40] <LjL> !info sane
[09:40] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[09:40] <[Ex0r] > ballpointcarrot- you have to pay for those.
[09:40] <Shinzetsu> Ah, thanks
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> SANE is actually Scanner Access Now Easy :)
[09:41] <_3fg> Also, where do I actually set up the wireless card in the OS
[09:41] <Shinzetsu> imsai: Hold on
[09:41] <_3fg> like, where in the OS do I deal with the wireless card
[09:41] <imsai> Shinzetsu: yes :)
[09:41] <jimcooncat> I'd like to edit pdf's, what to use?
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> system > administration > networking
[09:42] <Cirvin_Fox> how to i select the primary sound card if my system has more than one?
[09:42] <ballpointcarrot> [Ex0r] : i realized that - hence the 'proprietary'
[09:42] <Shinzetsu> imsai: http://www.gjaeger.de/scanner/downloads/plustek-usb-0.50-4.tar.gz
[09:42] <Shinzetsu> Try that, it should work
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> Cirvin_Fox: system > preferences > sound
[09:43] <sioux> hi I have a unstable compiz. i get this error /usr/bin/thefuture: line 2: gnome-window-decorator: command not found
[09:43] <sioux> sioux@sioux-desktop:~$ compiz.real: Couldn't load plugin 'libgconf.so'
[09:43] <sioux> who help me
[09:43] <afflux> nabend... -.-
[09:43] <ballpointcarrot> _3fg: open a console, and type network-admin
[09:43] <_3fg> ok
[09:43] <ballpointcarrot> that's where the network devices will be located
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> sioux: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:43] <imsai> Shinzetsu: okey, i did edit the plustek.conf in /etc/sane.d/ but this i'll try!
[09:43] <eigenlambda> sioux: shouldn't you be asking about that in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:43] <imsai> Shinzetsu: thx :)
[09:43] <eigenlambda> lol
[09:43] <Shinzetsu> imsai: Good luck, anytime :-)
[09:43] <eigenlambda> jynxt u
[09:44] <_3fg> ballpointer: what do you mean console?
[09:44] <jimcooncat> I'd like to edit pdf's, what to use?
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> !terminal
[09:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:44] <erUSUL> _3fg: System>Admin>Network
[09:44] <sioux> hey only me in ubuntu-xgl
[09:44] <Cirvin_Fox> fyrestrtr: There's not anything in that menu concerning selecting soundcards
[09:45] <_3fg> ballpointcarrot: I see an ethernet card and a disabled modem
[09:45] <ballpointcarrot> anyone with experience with ndiswrapper?
[09:45] <Beawolfe> _bt any help at all?
[09:46] <test> what are you trying to do with it ballpointcarrot?
[09:46] <ballpointcarrot> _3fg: you might be able to get it to work with ndiswrapper
[09:46] <ballpointcarrot> unfortunately, I don't know much about it.
[09:46] <_3fg> ballpointcarrot: is it bad that the network settings doesn't see it?
[09:46] <_3fg> !ndiswrapper
[09:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:47] <skavenge> Cirvin_Fox: the bottom of that screen says 'default soundcard' ..
[09:47] <test> ballpointcarrot: what kind of card are they trying to install?
[09:47] <ballpointcarrot> not really - it makes sense that if it doesn't have the driver enabled, then it won't show
[09:47] <nvez> !upgrade
[09:47] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:48] <Cirvin_Fox> fyrestrtr: There's not
[09:48] <skiffy> hi guys, anyone know if its possible to extract all the data from a website? for example if its a DVD rental site, extract its whole list and ratings data ?
[09:48] <sioux> hey in ubuntu/xgl no one help me :(
[09:48] <OneSeventeen> when I look at "top" it says I have 2 gig of ram, and 1.9 is used, yet the most mem extensive app is using 1.4%, why is 99% of my memory being shown as used?
[09:48] <ballpointcarrot> test: Linksys Wireless G PCI card
[09:49] <test> ballpointcarrot: Linksys huh?
[09:49] <ballpointcarrot> it said to use the linuxant drivers
[09:49] <test> _3fg: Do you have the windows drivers for your card?
[09:49] <_3fg> I didn't need a driver
[09:50] <test> ballpointcarrot: did it?
[09:50] <_3fg> windows set it up automatically
[09:50] <mephisto_> exit
[09:50] <Axe_> I have a .deb package, how do I install it
[09:50] <test> _3fg: Linux isn't windows.
[09:50] <piwi> yay
[09:50] <Flannel> OneSeventeen: linux will load other things in the memory, to have quick access to them.  Unused ram is wasted ram.  Well, either that, or you have lots of 1.4% apps ;)
[09:50] <_3fg> I know
[09:50] <Shinzetsu> test: Amen
[09:50] <michaeljb2005> If I refer someone to the proper ubuntu forums link can someone help me with a problem in evolution?
[09:50] <_3fg> so I have the windows drivers, but I have never used them
[09:50] <Axe_> test: really, I never knew that
[09:51] <test> _3fg: if you get the drivers for your card i will try to help you with ndiswrapper
[09:51] <_3fg> I have them
[09:51] <OneSeventeen> Flannel, cool, thanks, didn't realize that.  (nope, only one 1.4% app)
[09:51] <test> axe: some people don't realize that simple fact.
[09:51] <noxs> hi all
[09:51] <_3fg> test, can I /query you? I think the problem is worse than a driver problen
[09:51] <Axe_> How do I install this .deb package?
[09:51] <yggdrasil> does anyone here know how to connect to irc thru proxy with irssi ?
[09:52] <test> _3fg: Go ahead. I'll try to help you.
[09:52] <michaeljb2005> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1271673#post1271673
[09:52] <Cirvin_Fox> fyrestrtr: There's not anything in that menu that pertains to selecting the default soundcard
[09:52] <k31th> Are there any LDAP / LUMA users here? im trying to mass add users to ldap... either i need to create a script to add the users or use luma ?
[09:53] <_3fg> test: did you recieve query?
[09:53] <kbrooks> OK
[09:53] <skavenge> Cirvin_Fox: yes there is at the very bottom after picking sounds it says 'Default Soundcard:' with a dropdown menu, unless your not using 6.06 dapper release
[09:53] <skiffy> noone know then ?
[09:53] <test> _3fg: Nope. I didn't. Want me to query you?
[09:54] <_3fg> yes, please
[09:54] <Cirvin_Fox> Ah, therin lies the problem, still in hoary
[09:54] <test> _3fg: I have to log in and register. I will be right back.
[09:54] <finalbeta> Anyone has a guide on how to enable compiz with the normal packages? not quinns unstabel ones?
[09:54] <_3fg> or we can just go to #3fghelp
[09:54] <kbrooks> Is ANYONE here using EasyUbuntu?
[09:54] <test> _3fg: Im in the channel
[09:54] <Beawolfe> Is there anyone here who can help me with this problem?
[09:54] <skavenge> Cirvin_Fox: your not going to get much support for that your two whole versions down ..
[09:55] <skavenge> !upgrade
[09:55] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:55] <Cirvin_Fox> >< darn, well, i'll try to upgrade, that can be done online right?
[09:56] <metatag> hello all am on ubuntu breezy and am trying to install LTSP.. I am following the LTSP guide.. the prob is that my tftpd would not rung.. it says the following: The signal has been sent to start tftpd, but it doesn't appear
[09:56] <metatag> to be running.
[09:56] <skavenge> theres the links, you need to go hoary -> breezy -> dapper though, you cant jump breezy
[09:56] <kbrooks> Is ANYONE here using EasyUbuntu?
[09:56] <ThomasM> hey guys i'm having an issue with GDM. The resolution is too high for my LCD monitor. Where are the settings for the GDM resolution?
[09:57] <skavenge> !fixres
[09:57] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:57] <devscott> Is there anyone here familiar with termios.h ?
[09:57] <metatag> anyone successfully installed LTSP ?
[09:57] <skavenge> ThomasM: its on the fixresolutionhowto link ubotu just posted
[09:57] <ThomasM> skavenge my resolution once logged in is fine, its only GDM that is using a bad resolution.
[09:57] <teelittle> Hi, does anyone know how to get WindowMaker installed? Can't find it in the repos using aptitude...
[09:57] <Shinzetsu> imsai: Did it work?
[09:58] <skavenge> ThomasM: the link contains info on changing gdm's resolution as well ...
[09:58] <ThomasM> really? thanks skavenge.
[09:58] <Beawolfe> can someone please help so I can mount a spare Hard drive for storage......................very new to Ubuntu!
[09:58] <Warbo> !mount
[09:58] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[09:58] <terry> does ubuntu support wpa/psk wireless networking?  WEP is the only option can see in the gnome interface
[09:59] <Warbo> teelittle: Do you have Universe?
[09:59] <metatag> anyone successfully installed LTSP ?
[09:59] <Beawolfe> Warbo tried that and nothing happened
[09:59] <skavenge> it supports wpa, may need to install wpasupplicant
[09:59] <azcazandco> please can someone help me?  I am close to tearing my hair out because ubuntu kkeeps freezing
[09:59] <Se7h> hi there
[09:59] <teelittle> Warbo: just having a look...
[09:59] <Warbo> Beawolfe: Type "mount" in a terminal, does it show your drive?
[09:59] <Se7h> can i give u the url for the new born project for gnome ?
[10:00] <Warbo> !universe
[10:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:00] <azcazandco> is there anyway to roll back to default system settings whilst keeping application profiles etc?  dont want to clean install
[10:00] <skiffy> hi guys, anyone know if its possible to extract all the data from a website? for example if its a DVD rental site, extract its whole list and ratings data ?
[10:00] <bla|patrick> moin
[10:00] <bla|patrick> hi
[10:00] <bla|patrick> :)
[10:00] <ThomasM> azcazando, make a new user profile.
[10:00] <Sanne> teelittle: I can't find WindowMaker on http://packages.ubuntu.com. Either I'm blind, or it's not in Ubuntu.
[10:00] <Warbo> skiffy: You can download the whole site using wget onto your HD
[10:00] <bla|patrick> would someone help me with totem plugin and streaming in my browsers
[10:00] <teelittle> Sanne: that's what I suspected... :-(
[10:00] <bla|patrick> its loaded by opera and firefox
[10:00] <Warbo> Isn't it called WMaker?
[10:01] <bla|patrick> but it doesnt display anything :)
[10:01] <teelittle> Warbo: I have universe...
[10:01] <kbrooks> teelittle: hang on
[10:01] <azcazandco> ThomasM: can copy stuff across?
[10:01] <ubuntuology> skiffy, have you looked into httrack?
[10:01] <Beawolfe> Warbo ...not sure gives me a bunch of info
[10:01] <skavenge> !info wmaker
[10:01] <ubotu> wmaker: NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.92.0-5 (dapper), package size 2220 kB, installed size 6104 kB
[10:01] <azcazandco> I did a lot of sudo stuff though
[10:01] <kbrooks> window maker is a WM
[10:01] <Sanne> teelittle: have a look yourself though, maybe I'm really blind ;)
[10:01] <skiffy> Warbo: really? even if the sites split into hundreds of different pages ?
[10:01] <kbrooks> Sanne: ^^^
[10:01] <azcazandco> am worried i borked something i dont understand
[10:01] <Se7h> can i give u the url for the new born project for gnome ? please answer me, wont bother anymore
[10:01] <teelittle> Warbo: thanx! That's it (Sanne: it's wmaker...)
[10:01] <Warbo> Beawolfe: What type of drive is it? USB, IDE (normal HD), SATA?
[10:01] <ThomasM> azcazandco, what do you mean by default system settings? making a new user profile will still let you use all applications.
[10:02] <skiffy> ubuntuology: no, whats that m8 ?
[10:02] <Sanne> kbrooks, teelittle, ok, I'm blind.
[10:02] <Beawolfe> Warbo normal IDE formated Fat32
[10:02] <kbrooks> Se7h: do it
[10:02] <azcazandco> well i have messed with using different kernels and stuff
[10:02] <bla|patrick> i have libtotem_mozilla.so in /usr/lib/opera/plugins and /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[10:02] <Warbo> skiffy: You can tell it how many levels of links you want it to traverse (follow page1>page2, then page2>page3, etc.)
[10:02] <ubuntuology> it is made to copy websites, www.httrack.com
[10:02] <bla|patrick> but it doesnt display anything
[10:02] <azcazandco> and generally muddled about with loads of stuff
[10:02] <bla|patrick> in firefox the screen remains black
[10:02] <Warbo> Beawolfe: Try running "fdisk -l"
[10:02] <bla|patrick> in opera is it sort of grey
[10:02] <teelittle> ubotu: that rocks, it's the newest version available on the wmaker web site :-)
[10:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about that rocks, it's the newest version available on the wmaker web site :-) - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:02] <azcazandco> you know what like when you get a new os to play with
[10:02] <Se7h> kbrooks ok
[10:03] <Se7h> http://sethtech.isa-geek.org/desktopBox/
[10:03] <Se7h> there it is
[10:03] <Beawolfe> Warbo when I typed mount in terminal it came back with this ----/dev/hdb1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[10:03] <Beawolfe> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[10:03] <Beawolfe> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[10:03] <Beawolfe> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[10:03] <Beawolfe> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[10:03] <Beawolfe> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[10:03] <azcazandco> my first ubuntu install
[10:03] <Se7h> thanks
[10:03] <skavenge> teelittle: he's a bot ;)
[10:03] <Beawolfe> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[10:03] <Warbo> !ubotu
[10:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:03] <Beawolfe> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[10:03] <verbose> Beawolfe: don't paste in here
[10:03] <Beawolfe> soryy didnt know
[10:03] <skiffy> Warbo: thanks for the tip, any links on what commands i need to use in wget ?
[10:04] <Warbo> Beawolfe: OK, so you have Ubuntu installed on the second drive on your first IDE cable
[10:04] <teelittle> skavenge: just realised... first time in my life to be fooled by AI!!!
[10:04] <Warbo> skiffy: "man wget"
[10:04] <ThomasM> skavenge: thankyou very much
[10:04] <skiffy> ok :P
[10:04] <Se7h> http://sethtech.isa-geek.org/desktopBox/ <- the application is thought to be ready this weekend and the site is still under last modifications
[10:04] <terry> all: g'day everybody
[10:04] <skavenge> teelittle: hah, its common
[10:04] <ThomasM> i didn't know the first resolution listed was the one GDM uses. Doesn't make sense to me.
[10:04] <Se7h> ty all
[10:04] <skavenge> ThomasM: np
[10:04] <Beawolfe> Warbo yes...I need to get to the 3rd HD on the secondary IDE side
[10:04] <metatag> cd #ltsp
[10:04] <ThomasM> have a good day guys :)
[10:04] <Sanne> azcazandco: freezing may also hint at hardware problems, maybe memory, I recommend doing a memtest, it should be available on the Ubuntu live cd (just to be sure).
[10:05] <Warbo> Beawolfe: So fdisk -l should tell you what partitions are available on your system. hdb1 is your root, so the third will probably be a hdc or hdd
[10:05] <terry> does ubuntu support wpa/psk wireless networking?  WEP is the only option I can see in the gnome interface
[10:05] <Warbo> !wpa
[10:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[10:05] <tmccrary> I have a tablet with an i810 video card but I can't seem to get xrandr support working so I can rotate the screen. I am using the i810 driver with dapper...is there anything special I have to do?
[10:05] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: All right
[10:05] <azcazandco> Sanne: I got wierd hd block clone errors the other day
[10:05] <matthewmcvickar> I'm at the partition section
[10:05] <azcazandco> fixed it with fsck
[10:05] <eigenlambda> 'k
[10:05] <eigenlambda> whats it say?
[10:05] <skiffy> Warbo: i wud then want to try and import the data into a database, wud that be possible ?
[10:06] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: three choices: 1) erase entire disk, 2) use the largest continuous free space, 3) manually edit partition table
[10:06] <Sanne> azcazandco: hm. Sounds not too good, overall...
[10:06] <azcazandco> yes i dunno if the drive is deciding to pack in
[10:06] <azcazandco> i bought it about 4mths ago off ebay
[10:06] <Sanne> azcazandco: might be so. Is it old?
[10:06] <Warbo> skiffy: You would need to extract the data somwhow, and that would require a script specifically designed to handle the layout of the site
[10:06] <Sanne> ah
[10:06] <azcazandco> 80gb sata drive
[10:06] <Beawolfe> Warbo fdisk -l in Terminal didn't do anything
[10:07] <tmccrary> with i810, do I need to ENABLE the randr support in xorg? Is it a driver or something?
[10:07] <stefg> it's sudo fdisk -l
[10:07] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: ?
[10:07] <azcazandco> ideally i wanna try and get xp running inside ubuntu for a couple of things then wipe the windows partition off my drive
[10:07] <teelittle> ubotu: what about cars?
[10:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about what about cars? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:07] <skiffy> Warbo: hmm, see i was hoping that was an app that cud extract the data and save out the relevant data as a txt or xml
[10:08] <teelittle> (sorry, just a test..:)
[10:08] <Sanne> azcazandco: to find out if it's the hd, you could do a long live cd session, maybe with plugged out hd. If it doesn't freeze then, you'd have a hint at the problem.
[10:08] <Axe_> uhh
[10:08] <Axe_> If I double click on a deb package it tries to open it in archive manager
[10:08] <bla|patrick> crap xD i got lost in the mass
[10:08] <ubuntu> hello..i had to boot with the live cd....how do i reinstall grub to my ubuntu partition?
[10:08] <Axe_> which has an error that it can't handle .debs
[10:08] <Warbo> skiffy: Well websites often just reformat data which is stored on the servers as XML, so you could maybe find the address of that data (but you may not be allowed direct access)
[10:09] <bla|patrick> may someone help me activating that totem plugin in opera and firefox
[10:09] <Axe_> hwo can I install a deb on command line
[10:09] <skavenge> Axe_: open a terminal, 'dpkg -i filename.deb'
[10:09] <Warbo> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:09] <skavenge> sudo yeah ;)
[10:09] <newbiep> hi folks
[10:09] <test> teelittle: hehehe
[10:09] <ubuntu> Axe: if you are using rox...right click and set run action on debs  to   dkpg -i
[10:09] <Sanne> azcazandco: Ha, I also plan to try running Windows (98SE in my case) from qemu or vmware player in my next system. Ir should be possible with functioning hardware ;)
[10:09] <Raskall> Agh... Ubuntu gave me a sun burn. Went to the beach with the laptop today and forgot the time.
[10:09] <teelittle> ubuntu: use grub to create a boot disk, boot from it and use the command grub-install from the grub shell
[10:09] <Raskall> My back is on fire
[10:09] <skiffy> Warbo: ne ideas how i wud find the link to that data ?
[10:09] <Warbo> skiffy: No idea. Maybe get in touch with the webmaster? :)
[10:09] <azcazandco> Sanne: is wierd, it crashed 3 times on the same web page, changed mice coz i thought it might have been my mx510 causing the probs but it still froze
[10:10] <phaedrus44> teelittle: i dont have a floppy
[10:10] <Sanne> Raskall: not good. Watch your skin, you'll get wrinkles much faster otherwise.
[10:10] <Beawolfe> Warbo   any help?
[10:10] <newbiep> I have a small problem.   after each reboot I have to sudo ifdown eth0, sudo ifup eth0  to get an ip ..  the config looks like this:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18294
[10:10] <Sanne> azcazandco: which browser?
[10:10] <newbiep> if anybody knows what I could do to get the ip automatically would be nice.
[10:10] <azcazandco> Sanne: I got a bunch of pc's off my work which I am gonna hook all into ubuntu
[10:10] <azcazandco> firefox
[10:10] <Raskall> Sanne: I know. The sun hasn't seen my upper body in 20 years. until today.
[10:10] <phaedrus44> isnt ther a grub reinstall or install form the live cd?
[10:10] <tmccrary> mmm, a firefox cluster
[10:11] <Shinzetsu> Sanne: hehe
[10:11] <phaedrus44> *from
[10:11] <teelittle> phaedrus44: then get root, start grub and then:
[10:11] <azcazandco> Sanne: I was playing with getting xen running earlier but gave up
[10:11] <Sanne> azcazandco: It may well be a firefox bug regarding badly made websites. Try the live cd on those websites.
[10:11] <Warbo> Beawolfe: You mount filesystems with "sudo mount /dev/<device><partition> /wherever/you/want/to/mount/it" but you need to know what device and partition it is. Maybe hdc1 or something, try doing "ls /dev/hd??"
[10:11] <thi> thi
[10:11] <teelittle> phaedrus44: root (hd0,0)     [or whatever your hard disk is] 
[10:11] <azcazandco> Sanne, I think it is only on websites I have crashed
[10:11] <azcazandco> could be wrong
[10:11] <phaedrus44> hhmmmmmmmm
[10:11] <teelittle> phaedrus44: setup (hd0)
[10:11] <phaedrus44> ok..ill try...brb
[10:11] <azcazandco> what other browsers are there for ubuntu?  ff is my dream
[10:12] <psybapunk> anyone know how to get 1280x800 res in ubuntu?
[10:12] <azcazandco> use it for web dev all the time
[10:12] <thi> ugirgoigroihgoihoithe gdgtbdgggdhgsorry
[10:12] <Sanne> Raskall: hehe, been there. Right now it's very hot and sunny where I live, so I try to stay on the shady side of the streets ;)
[10:12] <Warbo> azcazandco: epiphany is good
[10:12] <azcazandco> k will have a look
[10:12] <LjL> thi, sorry?
[10:12] <Raskall> Sanne: :) I guess a wife and a large bottle of aloe vera will get me through the night. :)
[10:13] <aurel> hi
[10:13] <Warbo> hi
[10:13] <Beawolfe> Warbo that gave me 6 partitions..........how do I figure which one is which?
[10:13] <aurel> i have some problems with installing mplayer
[10:13] <Sanne> azcazandco: firefox is a very good standard compliant browser, but it *may* still have bugs, like any other software. Do you have a link to the offending websites? I could test.
[10:13] <aurel> i don't know which rep to add
[10:13] <azcazandco> Sanne: I wanna be able to access a couple of other boxes from my xp virtual machine so am guessing I will need to hook up samba as well as nfs
[10:13] <Sanne> Raskall: good luck :)
[10:13] <aurel> can anyone help me?
[10:13] <Warbo> Beawolfe: hda is the first IDE drive, hdb is the second, hdc is the first on the second cable and hdd is the second on the second cable. 1 is the firts partition on the device, 2 is the second, etc.
[10:14] <tailsfan> Is there anyway to get soundcore back?
[10:14] <Beawolfe> Warbo 4 on hda 3 on hdb and 1 on hdd
[10:14] <azcazandco> managed to do nfs to my 2nd box running apache etc
[10:14] <azureal> hi, after editing my sudoers file, there is no change... is there some way to force the system to re-read the file?
[10:14] <Warbo> Beawolfe: Sounds like hdd1 is the right one
[10:14] <psybapunk> anyone know how to get 1280x800 res in ubuntu?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> azureal: log out and login
[10:14] <aurel> i removed the command in the apt source list and so (i think) added the multiverse repository
[10:14] <aurel> but the problem is, there is no mplayer in my sources
[10:14] <azureal> fyrestrtr: it's weird because the debian change is instant
[10:15] <Warbo> Beawolfe: "sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt" then the files on that device will be in the folder /mnt. You can change that for wherever you want to put it of course, as long as the folder exists
[10:15] <Sanne> azcazandco: can't help you (yet) with networking to and from a virtualized Windows, sorry. We just have a small home LAN with 2 pc and a router.
[10:15] <azureal> fyrestrtr: after editing sudoers you yourself don't have to log out/in, do you?
[10:15] <azcazandco> fair enough, I am in the same boat ;-)
[10:15] <terry> does ubuntu support wpa/psk wireless networking?  WEP is the only option I can see in the gnome interface
[10:15] <Warbo> !tell terry about wpa
[10:16] <Sanne> azcazandco: heh :). Btw, I'm still waiting for links to those crash inducing websites, if you remember them ;)
[10:16] <Beawolfe> Warbo terminal says can't find /hdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:16] <tailsfan> !soundcore
[10:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about soundcore - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:16] <azcazandco> Sanne 2 secs
[10:16] <Sanne> ok
[10:16] <immute> i installed ubuntu on my computer as a triple boot ( FC5, WinXp, and now unbuntu) i told it to install grub to a floppy disk, so I didnt overwrite my main /boot but now I cant mount the floppy to copy the kernel images to /boot - is there any work around?
[10:16] <azcazandco> http://maconstuff.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-to-run-windows-xp-under-ubuntu.html
[10:17] <Warbo> Beawolfe: You obviously didn't copy the command correctly, you need to put /dev/hdd1
[10:17] <ChandlerBing> can anyone give me some advice what webcam to buy that will work on breezy (including mic!)?
[10:17] <tailsfan> Dang
[10:17] <azcazandco> gonna try it with epiphony
[10:17] <matthewmcvickar> eigenlambda: Where are you?
[10:17] <protocol1> terry ...yeah those wireless securities are supported
[10:17] <psybapunk> hmm
[10:18] <protocol1> I use WPA and it works great
[10:18] <Beawolfe> Warbo it says the same thing again with that line
[10:18] <bla|patrick> I failed
[10:18] <tailsfan> ChandlerBing: you don't use Dapper Drake?
[10:18] <bla|patrick> no wpa...
[10:18] <bla|patrick> nothing
[10:18] <Beawolfe> should I be typing mount first?
[10:18] <Sanne> azcazandco: and you crash on those? Blogger themes are mostly well designed code wise, and standards compliant. This one is also ok, from what I can see at a glance. You might want to check with disabled javascript, maybe it helps.
[10:18] <Warbo> Beawolfe: "sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt"
[10:18] <bla|patrick> it depends on the wificard/stick...
[10:18] <tailsfan> and Try Logitech
[10:18] <ChandlerBing> tailsfan: no, still on breezy
[10:18] <bla|patrick> what do u have Terminus
[10:18] <bla|patrick> what do u have terry
[10:18] <azcazandco> I am gonna do a test and see what happens in epiphany
[10:19] <terry> protocol1: thanks for the response.  the settings don't appear in system/network settings/interface properties.  Is there something obvious i'm missing?
[10:19] <Sanne> azcazandco: ok
[10:19] <azcazandco> then try again in ff if it works
[10:19] <ChandlerBing> Logitech is good?
[10:19] <azureal> ..
[10:19] <ChandlerBing> i'm a little worried about the mic
[10:19] <jrib> !webcam
[10:19] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:19] <ChandlerBing> you reckon itll work?
[10:19] <azcazandco> Sanne: easycam will not run on my machine either
[10:19] <ChandlerBing> excellent, cheers!
[10:19] <azcazandco> i am wondering if i might be better backing up and going for a fresh install
[10:20] <Sanne> azcazandco: on second look, there are lots of html validation errors. but usually those wouldn't bring firefox down. The page loads in my firefox, fwiw.
[10:20] <matthewmcvickar> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a partition of my Powerbook
[10:20] <azcazandco> can you do a non destructive reinstall with ubuntu?
[10:20] <terry> blalpatrick: do you mean what network card?  I'm running a acer travelmate 3200.  I will find out what the network card model is and let you know
[10:20] <matthewmcvickar> I need help doing the partitioning
[10:20] <azureal> hi, a question about sudoers: under user privilege specification i have it as "<user> ALL=NOPASSWD:ALL" ...why doesnt this work
[10:21] <CzarAlex``> If I put a new PCI Soundcard in my ubuntu box and turn it on, will it be auto-recognized and installed? or do I need to do anything special?
[10:21] <Sanne> azcazandco: a fresh install might help, but if it doesn't, you would still not know the cause of your problem. I would do some investigating first (like live cd, memtest etc)
[10:21] <CzarAlex``> There is currently no sound card at all installed.
[10:21] <azcazandco> Sanne: am away to click the dodgy link
[10:21] <Warbo> CzarAlex``: Usually it will work, but you may need to change your default device
[10:21] <polpak> CzarAlex``, it should work if it's supported
[10:21] <Beawolfe> Warbo it came back and asked me for password...........then came back with a curser and nothing else...........chcked and nothing is mounted
[10:21] <Warbo> polpak: Wow, really? :)
[10:21] <azcazandco> maybe back in 5 or just 30secs... we shall see
[10:21] <Sanne> ok
[10:21] <tailsfan> It should be recognized  if alsa is installed
[10:21] <CzarAlex``> Warbo Thanky
[10:21] <CzarAlex``> polpak Thanks!
[10:22] <azcazandco> that worked in E
[10:22] <azcazandco> cant be arsed typign the whle thing lol
[10:22] <azcazandco> gonna try again in FF
[10:22] <matthewmcvickar> Could someone help me with partitioning during this install?
[10:22] <Warbo> Beawolfe: So "ls /mnt" gives nothing? (assuming that there is stuff on the drive)
[10:22] <LuisMendes> vmware player installation fails.. it says "Module vmnet is not loaded".. what should I do?
[10:22] <Beawolfe> Warbo drive is empty
[10:23] <matthewmcvickar> I have OS X installed on one partition, and two other partitions set aside for Ubuntu and one for swap
[10:23] <azcazandco> hmmm... worked this time
[10:23] <matthewmcvickar> But they're just free space
[10:23] <matthewmcvickar> I don't know what to do next
[10:23] <stefg> LuisMendes: kernel -26 is broken vmware-wise... use the -25 build
[10:23] <Beawolfe> Warbo formatted fat 32
[10:23] <Warbo> Beawolfe: OK then, "mount | grep mnt" doesn't give anything then?
[10:23] <azcazandco> crashed in exactly the same place before
[10:23] <LuisMendes> stefg, sorry I didn't catch that :P
[10:23] <Warbo> Beawolfe: Filesystem type doesn't matter, it is detected automatically
[10:23] <verbose> azureal: did you edit sudoers with visudo?
[10:23] <azureal> yes
[10:23] <stefg> LuisMendes: waht does uname -r give you?
[10:24] <Sanne> azcazandco: firefox is known to use a lot of memory, especially if you have lots of tabs open. That might hint at problems with your ram.
[10:24] <LuisMendes> stefg, 2.6.15-26-386
[10:24] <azureal> it gave me nano, another annoyance (how do i change default apps -- fluxbox)
[10:24] <verbose> azureal: try moving that line to before any others
[10:24] <verbose> or before any ALL statements
[10:24] <azureal> ?
[10:24] <verbose> i believe sudo uses first matching line when it parses sudoers
[10:25] <verbose> so if you have an ALL statement it'll match that one
[10:25] <verbose> instead of continuing to read down to your line
[10:25] <MTecknology> I can load my snes controller and the buttons work. I can open an emulator and configure the buttons just fine... But when I try to use the up/down and left/right axis it isn't recognized. I can open calibration and it recognizes the 2 axis, so I wonder if I might need to make Linux read these input as on or off, as they are any way. Any help or ideas?
[10:25] <stefg> LuisMendes: that's the problem... you need to boot the previous version which is 2.6.15-25 because there's no vmmon modules for the -26 version
[10:25] <tailsfan> is linux-source inportanr
[10:25] <tailsfan> important
[10:26] <tailsfan> 8
[10:26] <Shinzetsu> Whats the best IRC app for Linux?
[10:26] <ion_bidon> hello, I have a linux kernel problem after an upgrade, my box won't boot any more. It decompresses the linux kernel and right after that it tells me that it cannot find libc . Anyone knows this problem ?
[10:26] <crimsun> tailsfan: not really.
[10:26] <Beawolfe> Warbo that did show hdd1 as fat32
[10:26] <Warbo> tailsfan: linux-headers is usually all that is needed
[10:26] <LuisMendes> stefg, yes but I remember I compiled the new kernel headers into vmware... but I forgot how to enter that config screen :P
[10:26] <polpak> Shinzetsu, how do you define "best" ?
[10:26] <Warbo> Beawolfe: Then it is mounted
[10:26] <tailsfan> Konversation
[10:26] <Sanne> Shinzetsu: That depends, of course ;). I like xchat.
[10:26] <Beawolfe> Warbo or vfat rather
[10:26] <Shinzetsu> Hmm, well the most popular/user friendly, im using X-Chat atm
[10:26] <Wodger> ikonversation is quick slick
[10:26] <azureal> verbose: thx, i think you hit the mark
[10:26] <polpak> Shinzetsu, I've used X-Chat, and X-Chat-Gnome
[10:27] <polpak> Shinzetsu, both of them are decent
[10:27] <Wodger> on linux i like xchat
[10:27] <azcazandco> Sanne: I have 2gb ram
[10:27] <verbose> azureal: np
[10:27] <Warbo> Beawolfe: You can unmount it with "sudo umount /mnt" then mount it on somewhere else if you want. Once you have it set up how you want then you can add those options to the file /etc/fstab to have it mount at boot
[10:27] <Wodger> which is ok
[10:27] <ion_bidon> so I suppose nobody is having linux kernel problems after upgrading ?
[10:27] <Beawolfe> Warbo how do I do that?
[10:28] <verbose> ion_bidon: i haven't had any
[10:28] <Sanne> azcazandco: anyway, just do a memtest and a long live cd session, at least to rule out memory and hd problems. You could dance around the freezing problem forever otherwise, you have to start somewhere ;)
[10:28] <tailsfan> Warbo, I'm trying to install alsa and It's saying it msiing a version.h file
[10:28] <ion_bidon> verbose: ok thanks
[10:28] <azcazandco> Sanne: will do
[10:28] <verbose> what did you upgrade from?
[10:28] <crimsun> tailsfan: you need linux-image-$(uname -r) as I've said numerous times :-)
[10:28] <verbose> to what?
[10:28] <crimsun> talisein: sorry, linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:28] <Sanne> azcazandco: ok, good luck :)
[10:28] <crimsun> argh
[10:28] <crimsun> talisein: sorry
[10:28] <terry> bla|patrick: its a intel pro/wireless 2200BG which is in a acer travelmate 3200 laptop.  would this explain why I don't have any options for WPA/PSK wireless?
[10:28] <azcazandco> when you say a long livecd session, do you mean just work in it for ages?
[10:28] <crimsun> tailsfan: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:29] <verbose> linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:29] <verbose> :)
[10:29] <aurel> hm, i still suffer from problems installing mplayer, can anyone help me?
[10:29] <stefg> LuisMendes: check lsmod... no vmmon-modules... no vmware running
[10:29] <ion_bidon> verbose: from 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic, to 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic
[10:29] <Beawolfe> Warbo I did this once before about a month ago when I first installed Ubuntu with no problems and the commands I was told did all of that but now I am lost
[10:29] <Warbo> Beawolfe: You saw that the filesystem was recognised as vfat, so run "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" to open up the fstab file, and make a new line with the parameters you want to use (I used /mnt as the example mountpoint, but you can put whatever, and for options just put "defaults,uid=<yourusername>" and put 0 0 at the end
[10:29] <Sanne> azcazandco: hm, I would work as long in it as it takes you under normal ubuntu to freeze, maybe a little bit longer just to be sure.
[10:29] <tailsfan> I installed that and alsa is still giving me error
[10:30] <Warbo> Beawolfe: (I am pretty sure the System>Administration>Disks does this all for you.....)
[10:30] <azcazandco> Sanne: it does it irratically
[10:30] <azcazandco> and if i do this for 4 hrs tonight it means I will not get any work done
[10:30] <matthewmcvickar> I don't know the correct way to do this partitioning; will someone help me? I'm installing Ubuntu on my Powerbook. There are three partitions. One has OS X on it, and the other two are for Ubuntu and swap. Those two are just free space now (unallocated).
[10:30] <verbose> ion_bidon: i went from 2.6.15-25-amd64-server to -26-amd64-server fine
[10:30] <azcazandco> better getting it fixed i guess
[10:30] <azcazandco> gonna do that memtest thing
[10:30] <azcazandco> can get it from the boot menu
[10:30] <Sanne> azcazandco: hehe, like it would be easy ;). It's just a suggestion, just use your best judgement.
[10:30] <foo> I was told that /home and / and swap for 3 partitions was good to have .. .but with this ubuntu server I can't seem to find a predefined setup like this, do I need to manually create these partitions?
[10:31] <azcazandco> Sanne: thanks for the friendly help :D
[10:31] <Sanne> azcazandco: anytime, you're welcome :)
[10:31] <Warbo> foo: For /home you would, automatic just gives / and swap
[10:31] <Beawolfe> Warbo I dont know about the system admin disk I used a Ubuntu install disk and this is what I got
[10:31] <azureal> verbose: this error does not occur on a debian system
[10:31] <foo> Warbo: Isn't /home a good idea if I want to reinstall but keep my /home data? Hm
[10:31] <Warbo> foo: If you are running a server then /home would not get used much though
[10:31] <verbose> foo: what kind of server is it?
[10:31] <foo> Warbo: ohh, that's very true.
[10:32] <Fracture> my X server keeps crashing because of a damn long string rendering bug
[10:32] <foo> verbose: openvpn, ldap, webdav.
[10:32] <verbose> foo: /var would be a better choice for many types of servers
[10:32] <verbose> yeah, i'd do a separate /var then instead of /home
[10:32] <Warbo> Beawolfe: That was a reference to the menus at the top of GNOME
[10:32] <verbose> and a separate /tmp too
[10:32] <foo> Good call. /me usually sets up personal systems
[10:32] <foo> hmm
[10:32] <foo> verbose: hm, thanks. And I have to manually make that, right? No predefined one or anything... right?
[10:32] <terry> I have a intel pro/wireless 2200BG which is in a acer travelmate 3200 laptop.  Is there any reason why I can't see any option within gnome why I only WEP settings and can't see any setting for wpa/psk
[10:33] <matthewmcvickar> I don't know the correct way to do this partitioning; will someone help me? I'm installing Ubuntu on my Powerbook. There are three partitions. One has OS X on it, and the other two are for Ubuntu and swap. Those two are just free space now (unallocated).
[10:33] <verbose> foo: yeah, you have to make it
[10:33] <foo> verbose: thanks!
[10:33] <Warbo> matthewmcvickar: Usually the installer will use existing free space if you tell it to
[10:33] <matthewmcvickar> But the largest free space is where OS X is
[10:33] <stefg> matthewmcvickar: actually this is just fine. What are you worrying about?
[10:33] <Warbo> matthewmcvickar: OSX is in free space?
[10:34] <nooneelse> hello all i`m trying to start mercury(the messenger) but it stills updating checks for ever, how can I disable this ?
[10:34] <matthewmcvickar> Warbo: No, it has the largest partition
[10:34] <terry> I have a intel pro/wireless 2200BG which is in a acer travelmate 3200 laptop.  Is there any reason why I can only see WEP options and can't see any setting for wpa/psk?
[10:34] <verbose> azureal: if you export EDITOR=vi it will use vi
[10:34] <andy-> is there anything like 'dreamweaver' for linux?
[10:34] <matthewmcvickar> stefg: I've tried to install this three times already today and it crashes each time
[10:34] <Warbo> matthewmcvickar: Well, using existing free space by definition doesn't use existing partitions
[10:34] <nooneelse> andy- nvu ?
[10:34] <Warbo> andy-: Probably Nvu is the closest which is Free
[10:34] <nooneelse> andy- www.nvu.org
[10:35] <andy-> k thx.
[10:35] <matthewmcvickar> Warbo: Well, there are partitions, but they're not formatted
[10:35] <Redman276> where would libfglrx_pp.so.1.0:   be located
[10:35] <ardchoille> matthewmcvickar: I've always just used two partitions for Ubuntu, one for / and one for swap, on all 11 of my computers.
[10:35] <nooneelse> andy- www.nvu.com
[10:35] <matthewmcvickar> Warbo: They're unallocated
[10:35] <mrDaniel> @terry: in ubuntu is no comfortable frontend to set up a wlan-connection with wpa
[10:35] <Warbo> nooneelse: Giving links like that usually encourages people to download tarballs :)
[10:35] <Tomatix> Last time I tried NVU, it didn`t want to open my .php files :(
[10:35] <matthewmcvickar> ardchoille: Okay, so how do I tell it where to install what?
[10:35] <andy-> nooneelse: thx
[10:35] <Redman276> im tryingto configure  my  ATI driver
[10:35] <Warbo> !ati
[10:35] <nooneelse> Warbo sorry just a mistake about the sufix
[10:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:35] <stefg> matthewmcvickar: normally OSX needs about 10 partitions... 9 of them very small because they hold EFI and and driver stuff. Can you paste an 'sudo fdisk -l ' listing to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:36] <mrDaniel> you need to create a file (/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf) yourself, configure it and configure the file /etc/network/interfaces
[10:36] <betty> hello
[10:36] <mrDaniel> in the wiki is a good HOW-TO
[10:36] <Warbo> nooneelse: I mean that people end up downloading source for stuff already in Ubuntu
[10:37] <foo> verbose: How much space should I give /var ?
[10:37] <mrDaniel> look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo or
[10:37] <mrDaniel> this will help you
[10:37] <verbose> foo: it really depends on a lot of variables
[10:37] <foo> verbose: Yeah, that's what I thought. hm
[10:37] <verbose> but on that type of system, /usr/ and /var/ will be used a lot
[10:38] <azureal> verbose: the sudoers prob didnt appear on a debian system... perhaps it has something to do w/ the statement "Defaults   !lecture, tty_tickets, !fqdn"  /
[10:38] <verbose> foo: do you have any comparable machines to see how much space they're using?
[10:38] <ardchoille> matthewmcvickar: It looks like others are trying to help you with partitioning.. I don't want to jump in the middle and possibly confuse you.
[10:38] <foo> verbose: Yeah, but not with the type of set up I want.
[10:38] <foo> hm
[10:38] <matthewmcvicka1> ardchoille: No, that's okay
[10:39] <verbose> azureal: yeah, i'm not sure about that stuff
[10:39] <ryanakca> is there a way not to receive mail from cron?
[10:39] <matthewmcvicka1> ardchoille: stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18299
[10:39] <ryanakca> (it gets very annoing, having your inbox filled with clutter)
[10:39] <mrDaniel> @foo: i am not sure but i think 1-2 GB is ok
[10:39] <azureal> k
[10:39] <mrDaniel> @foo: by the way, you can make a partition smaller or bigger
[10:40] <Beawolfe> Warbo still confussed tried gedit and it came back with authenticain rejected
[10:40] <mrDaniel> there is a good tool for doing this
[10:41] <verbose> foo: if you're running webdav i'd do a lot more than 1-2GB
[10:41] <verbose> if you have a lot of users
[10:42] <buzzed> any way of securing wifi interactions... like if i am surfing from a coffee shop?
[10:42] <kbrooks> wpa?
[10:42] <matthewmcvicka1> ardchoille: so?
[10:42] <matthewmcvicka1> stefg: What does that tell you?
[10:43] <foo> verbose: 20 users
[10:43] <matthewmcvicka1> I'm just afraid of having to start from scratch for the fourth time
[10:43] <ardchoille> matthewmcvicka1: I see no free space there at all
[10:43] <MTecknology> I can load my snes controller and the buttons work. I can open an emulator and configure the buttons just fine... But when I try to use the up/down and left/right axis it isn't recognized. I can open calibration and it recognizes the 2 axis, so I wonder if I might need to make Linux read these input as on or off, as they are any way. Any help or ideas?
[10:43] <LuisMendes> stefg: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216233&highlight=vmware   here you can find how to build the modules to kernel 26 :) it works!
[10:43] <mrDaniel> @buzzed: a vpn should be a good possibility
[10:43] <matthewmcvicka1> ardchoille: So then there has to be something wrong with the way I'm partioning in OS X
[10:44] <ardchoille> matthewmcvicka1: I don't know what OSX is, can't help with that :(
[10:44] <verbose> foo: depending on what they're going to be doing(how much they're going to be storing) i'd say as cheap as disk space is give them each a gig or 2
[10:44] <verbose> if you can afford it
[10:44] <matthewmcvicka1> ardchoille: Mac OS X
[10:44] <yggdrasil> hello, can somone help me out with a wine application thing, is there another channel for that?
[10:44] <ardchoille> matthewmcvicka1: Ooooohh
[10:44] <matthewmcvicka1> That's where I did the initial partitioning
[10:44] <test> #wine?
[10:45] <yggdrasil> its kinda #small ?
[10:45] <LjL> #winehq
[10:45] <verbose> yggdrasil: just ask your question
[10:46] <piwi> hey, is there anyone here using asterisk with ubuntu and freephonie.net sip?
[10:46] <yggdrasil> ok, im using wine to try and run adobe go live and its saying somethig about my key ... thats why i didnt wantto ask here. it cant find the key.
[10:46] <Tomatix> why cant I open PHP files in NVU?
[10:47] <yggdrasil> nvu sucks
[10:47] <Tomatix> do you have better suggestions then?
[10:47] <LjL> !language
[10:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:47] <yggdrasil> tmatix thats why i was trying to get thie adobe go live on wine
[10:47] <yggdrasil> sorry guys
[10:47] <Tomatix> hm k
[10:47] <Beawolfe> Warbo thanx for what you were able to do!
[10:47] <yggdrasil> or what do you think of it tomatix ?
[10:48] <LjL> anyway Kate in KDE has syntax highlighting for PHP. i'd suppose GEdit or whatever has the same, without going as far as installing anything particularly fancy
[10:48] <Tomatix> well... if Dreamweaver was ported to Unix/Linux without using Wine, it would be good
[10:48] <yggdrasil> hehe yea
[10:48] <schmakk> i dont know if this is the right chan to ask this, but how the %"##"& do i enable the console in enemy territory?
[10:48] <yggdrasil> dont see why not if it runs on mac
[10:49] <andy-> i miss dreamweaver
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> Tomatix: try nvu editor
[10:49] <yggdrasil> i miss my go live :(
[10:49] <Tomatix> fyrestrtr, I have... but it wont open my php files
[10:49] <matthewmcvicka1> Okay, so...
[10:49] <yggdrasil> i cant edit aweb page by hand.
[10:49] <andy-> just installed Nvu, its kinda nice for a free software.
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> won't open them? opens here fine.
[10:49] <Tomatix> hmm
[10:49] <matthewmcvicka1> yggdrasi: You should learn to, it's really worth it ;-)
[10:50] <verbose> ugh...how is it worth it?
[10:50] <matthewmcvicka1> Editing by hand?
[10:50] <verbose> yeah
[10:50] <terry_> mrDaniel: if you replied to me, can you please repeat, I just had internet problems
[10:50] <verbose> most websites aren't worth even visiting let alone hand editing
[10:50] <matthewmcvicka1> Having ultimate control over the code and generating something that's actually valid?
[10:50] <verbose> and the ones that are worthwhile are usually created with fancy programs
[10:50] <verbose> not by hand
[10:51] <matthewmcvicka1> Such as?
[10:51] <verbose> matthewmcvicka1: well, in the real world people have time constraints
[10:51] <matthewmcvicka1> verbose: I work full-time as a web developer.
[10:51] <verbose> i agree that reading the 'code' and knowing what it does is good to know
[10:51] <steve_> hey all.  I'm compiling an application.  I was wondering how you can get a list of required libraries.  Something better than running configure, having it stop and tell you what you need, get it, run it again, and it stops again, etc.  ?
[10:52] <verbose> steve_: once you have the executable you can use ldd
[10:52] <matthewmcvicka1> steve_:  I should think that information would be available on the application's website
[10:52] <matthewmcvicka1> Or that
[10:52] <eigenlambda> steve_: apt-get build-dep app
[10:52] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: There you are
[10:52] <verbose> i guess you could look at the source and see what libraries it #includes
[10:52] <epidemik> how do i quit x server?
[10:52] <verbose> epidemik: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:52] <funkja> How does one get mp3 files to work in Rythmn box
[10:52] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18299
[10:52] <LjL> epidemik: "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop"
[10:53] <steve_> verbose, having the executable requires already building it.  :P
[10:53] <Tomatix> verbose, in most cases, ctrl+alt+backspace makes it to restart...
[10:53] <verbose> steve_: i know :P
[10:53] <verbose> Tomatix: it's not supposed to
[10:53] <verbose> that's ?dm
[10:53] <verbose> that's starting it back up
[10:53] <Tomatix> well, maybe because gdm is restarting it then...
[10:53] <LjL> Berge: uh, yeah, it *is* supposed to
[10:53] <nooneelse> hello all i`m trying to start mercury(the messenger) but it stills updating checks for ever, how can I disable this ?
[10:53] <eigenlambda> mmm... looks about right
[10:53] <LjL> i mean verbose
[10:53] <LjL> Tomatix: sure
[10:53] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: They told me there was no free space
[10:53] <LjL> verbose: ?dm is either gdm or kdm
[10:53] <steve_> eigenlambda, apt-get build-dep only works for src debs, not externally downloaded apps, right?
[10:54] <LjL> steve_: right
[10:54] <steve_> ok.  thanks  all. :)
[10:54] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: So what do I do next?
[10:54] <Zambezi> Is there a grafic FTP-client which supports SSL?
[10:54] <LjL> steve_: sometimes, though, if you simply want a newer version of an app that *is* in the repos, build-dep is still quite useful
[10:54] <eigenlambda> oh...
[10:54] <eigenlambda> you need to delete the apple_free partition with gparted
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> Zambezi: nautilus
[10:54] <steve_> LjL, ah... good thinking. :)
[10:55] <eigenlambda> and tell gparted you want it to be a linux ext3 partition
[10:55] <ryanakca> is there a way not to receive mail from cron?
[10:55] <matthewmcvicka1> oka
[10:55] <ryanakca> (it gets very annoing, having your inbox filled with clutter)
[10:55] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: _That's_ the kind of info I need ;)
[10:55] <matthewmcvicka1> but gparted lists four partitions
[10:55] <eigenlambda> hehe
[10:55] <eigenlambda> ya
[10:56] <matthewmcvicka1> is it one of the "unallocated" ones?
[10:56] <Zomb> hi
[10:56] <Zambezi> fyrestrtr, I have Xfce.
[10:56] <Zomb> what is loading the ipv6 module all the time?
[10:56] <eigenlambda> there's unallocated space?
[10:56] <matthewmcvicka1> when i load up gparted it says there are two unallocated spaces
[10:56] <ic56> ryanakca: what kind of mail?  mail about errors in jobs or mail from jobs designed to send mail?
[10:56] <eigenlambda> two unallocated spaces... those should be the apple_free partitions then?
[10:57] <matthewmcvicka1> i would assume so yes
[10:57] <eigenlambda> you need to allocate them as linux ext3 and linux swap
[10:57] <matthewmcvicka1> okay
[10:57] <ic56> echo ryankca
[10:57] <ryanakca> ic56: errors in jobs... "cant connect to dcop server" and such
[10:57] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: create as primary partition or extended?
[10:58] <ryanakca> ic56: "[16:56]  <ic56> echo ryankca" ???
[10:58] <eigenlambda> primary, i think
[10:58] <Tomatix> Why cant I open php files in NVU? anyone know why...?
[10:58] <ic56> ryanakca: the normal way is to modify your jobs so they redirect their output
[10:58] <eigenlambda> anybody know what the difference is?
[10:58] <ic56> ryanakca: sorry about the echo -- typo
[10:58] <ryanakca> ic56: eh hunh...
[10:58] <narfmaster> Tomatix, because Nvu is an HTML editor
[10:58] <Tomatix> well...
[10:58] <matthewmcvicka1> okay
[10:58] <matthewmcvicka1> this looks promising
[10:59] <Tomatix> I can in fact find a thing that says "Insert PHP code" in it...
[10:59] <ic56> ryanakca: another solution might be to change cron's MAILTO env var to a dummy user with a /dev/null mailbox
[11:00] <Lars_G> Question, if I pull the source package, in this case courier but I want to debuild/dpkg-buildpackage only one or a few of the packages this compiles into, how can I do that? I want for example to skip building courier-webmail from the source....
[11:00] <advant> I'm trying to compile ark, but it says pkg-conf i have 2.12.0 and GLIB returns 2.10.3, how can I fully upgrade to 2.12.0?
[11:00] <PingunZ> hi, when I startup I go in grub console, how do I boot in ubuntu ?
[11:00] <user-land> how can i start flightgear once it is installed ?
[11:01] <ryanakca> hmmm... 7mb = ??? kbits? I know 1024kb = 1mb... but how many kbits to 1 kbyte? or is 1kbit = 1kbyte?
[11:01] <narfmaster> user-land, fgfs
[11:01] <eigenlambda> i see.  primary partitions and extended partitions are an artifact of bios.  dunno why those options are available on a mac...
[11:01] <matthewmcvicka1> oh well
[11:01] <matthewmcvicka1> in any case...
[11:01] <LjL> ryanakca: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte
[11:01] <Tomatix> ryanakca, 7*1024 gives ur answer...
[11:01] <test> i would like to know why i get egg_desktop errors after upgrading to kernel 26
[11:02] <user-land> thank you, narfmaster. cryptic indeed ...
[11:02] <ryanakca> Tomatix: so kilobit = kilobyte?
[11:02] <Tomatix> ryanakca, sry wrong :D
[11:02] <scythe> to upgrade to dapper, all I should have to do is change my sources.list and then apt-get update
[11:02] <ic56> ryanakca: 1 byte = 8 bits (unless you're counting transmission overheads). 1kB = 1024 bytes = 8*1024 bits
[11:02] <scythe> and apt-get upgrade right
[11:02] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: Do choose "Use largest continuous free space" or "manually edit partition table"?
[11:02] <stefg> !upgrade
[11:02] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[11:02] <scythe> ?
[11:02] <LjL> ic56: 1kB=1000 bytes.  1KiB=1024 bytes
[11:02] <Lars_G> Question, if I pull the source package, in this case courier but I want to debuild/dpkg-buildpackage only one or a few of the packages this compiles into, how can I do that? I want for example to skip building courier-webmail from the source....
[11:03] <matthewmcvicka1> ulgh
[11:03] <matthewmcvicka1> why is the swap partition only 128 mb?
[11:03] <matthewmcvicka1> i hate my life
[11:03] <gatekeeper> scythe: I have tried both ways and using the update-manager seems to be better
[11:03] <ic56> LjL: I don't work with the physical sciences.  To me 1kB always means 1024B
[11:04] <test> i would like to know why i get egg_desktop errors after upgrading to kernel 26? Anyone?
[11:04] <user-land> fgfs does not start because of errors.
[11:04] <RvGaTe> gatekeeper, i keep thinking that im typing that :P
[11:04] <PingunZ> hi, when I startup I go in grub console, how do I boot in ubuntu ? plz help !!!
[11:04] <gatekeeper> scythe: if you don't have it installed sudo apt-get install update-manager
[11:04] <ryanakca> ic56: I'm getting confused. :)
[11:04] <user-land> is there another app that can be used to test video performance ?
[11:04] <Tomatix> ryanakca, try 7*1024*8... :P i am not sure if it will give you right answer, but well...
[11:05] <narfmaster> user-land, glxgears
[11:05] <user-land> how do i start xsabre for example ?
[11:05] <user-land> ah.
[11:05] <LjL> ic56: and "to me" one kilometer is 152 meters, so? ;-) that's an IEEE recommendation. IEEE=Institute of *Electrical* and *Electronics* Engineers
[11:05] <GeistDerZeit> Are there any problems to get rid of temporary cache files with dpkg, so as to free space?
[11:05] <EruditeHermit> hey, does anyone know where to find w32codecs for ubuntu?
[11:05] <FunnyLookinHat> !w32codec
[11:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32codec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:05] <PingunZ> use automatix
[11:05] <FunnyLookinHat> !w32codecs
[11:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:05] <LjL> GeistDerZeit: apt-get clean  to get rid of the apt cache
[11:05] <GeistDerZeit> It's in the wiki
[11:05] <FunnyLookinHat> Nooo
[11:05] <stefg> !easysource
[11:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:05] <ic56> ryanakca: are you being facetious or are you fishing for an explanation?
[11:06] <gatekeeper> EruditeHermit: yep hang on...
[11:06] <FunnyLookinHat> Don't use any tool just grab the package, it's two lines in console.  automatix = evil!
[11:06] <eigenlambda> matthewmcvicka1: 'use largest contigious free space' sounds like the right thing to do
[11:06] <user-land> narfmaster, for both i get: 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'
[11:06] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: The partition I made 3 Gigs is only 128mb for some reason now
[11:06] <eigenlambda> weird
[11:06] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: okay i'll try that then
[11:06] <narfmaster> user-land, ouch - bad news i guess
[11:06] <yggdrasil> tomatix try somethinge called quanta ?
[11:06] <scythe> ohh, not good
[11:06] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: Yeah it's really weird
[11:06] <eigenlambda> maybe you can make a different one at the end
[11:06] <eigenlambda> i dunno
[11:06] <GeistDerZeit> Yeah, i heard that. But i'm wondering which are the consequences. Can i reconfigure the installed packages afterthat?
[11:06] <Tomatix> yggdrasi1, hmm I try
[11:06] <user-land> narfmaster, with a super cheap onboard video card i got no such errors ...
[11:07] <gatekeeper> EruditeHermit:
[11:07] <gatekeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[11:07] <ryanakca> ic56: so, this is what I understand: 1mb = 1024 kb. 1024kb = 1024byte (1024 kb * 1024 bytes) = 1024byte*8 = #bits
[11:07] <narfmaster> user-land, so buy a cheap video card ;)
[11:07] <scythe> I just did an apt-get upgrade instead of dist-upgrade... the wiki said this will completely hose my machine, anyone think doing an apt-get dist-upgrade now might save my install?
[11:07] <EruditeHermit> gatekeeper: thanks
[11:07] <user-land> which one, narfmaster ?
[11:07] <yggdrasil> apparently dreamweaver works in wine
[11:07] <narfmaster> user-land, i use a nVidia FX5200 at the moment
[11:07] <gatekeeper> EruditeHermit: have a look at my little home page http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[11:07] <kbrooks> scythe: yes, it might
[11:08] <Tomatix> yggdrasil, how does the "install-files" work in wine?
[11:08] <gatekeeper> EruditeHermit: yw :-)
[11:08] <narfmaster> user-land, it's pretty cheap :)
[11:08] <ic56> LjL: no argument. 1k is just easier to type and I'm used to it.  When my generation dies off, your way will be the only way.
[11:08] <scythe> good thing I didn't restart (new kernel n all)
[11:08] <ic56> ryanakca: correct
[11:08] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: These partitions aren't mounted...
[11:08] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: This is a nightmare
[11:09] <eigenlambda> you finished editing and moved on?
[11:09] <eigenlambda> hm
[11:09] <yggdrasil> tomatix ill brb  cant handle this irc clenit
[11:09] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: Well it doesn't give me that "largest free space" option anymore
[11:09] <ryanakca> ic56: kk
[11:09] <PingunZ> !grub
[11:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:09] <ic56> ryanakca: however, sometimes people mean different things when they say "k" and "M".  harddisk manufacturers, for marketing purposes, compute in 1000 not 1024
[11:10] <Tomatix> !lilo
[11:10] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[11:10] <pepsi> dont be dorks, 1k is 1024 bytes
[11:10] <pepsi> :P
[11:10] <ryanakca> gah... *information overload* :)
[11:10] <epidemik> can someone help me install nvidia drivers?
[11:10] <eigenlambda> is there any free space left?
[11:10] <user-land> yes, narfmaster, and how does it perform ?
[11:10] <ryanakca> ok. I think I get it :)
[11:10] <eigenlambda> hm
[11:10] <EruditeHermit> gatekeeper: is it safe to just add marillats repository and use it with ubuntu?
[11:10] <eigenlambda> oh dear
[11:10] <Corporal_Dirge> Someone mentioned fl-something as  another video driver in xorg, how is it spelled again?
[11:10] <narfmaster> user-land, it performs like a 2 or 3 year old video card
[11:10] <ic56> ryanakca: and when computing data to be transmitted, people will say 1k to transmit, but the wire will actually see overheads for error checking.
[11:10] <scythe> epidernik  it isnt that hard
[11:10] <epidemik> can someone help me install nvidia drivers?
[11:10] <eigenlambda> i wonder when anybody is going to be around in the linux lab
[11:10] <stefg> !nvidia
[11:10] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: I don't know what's free space, what's unallocated, what's not mounted, or what any of that even means
[11:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:11] <ryanakca> kbits = 1024bits...
[11:11] <scythe> dl the drivers, uppack them, and then run the .sh
[11:11] <yggdrasil> tomatix pm ?
[11:11] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: Yeah, I should go down there
[11:11] <epidemik> i tried that
[11:11] <scythe> or apt-get them, I think they are in universe
[11:11] <epidemik> ill try it again though
[11:11] <Tomatix> yggdrasil,ok
[11:11] <ic56> ryanakca: so, when computing how much data goes on the wire, an easy rule of thumb is to compute 10 bits to the byte.
[11:11] <user-land> how many frames do you get for fgfs ?
[11:11] <scythe> oh, do you have the kernel sources, so it can compile hooks into the kernel
[11:11] <FunnyLookinHat> ic56, or 8 bits per byte   ; )
[11:11] <Nekow42> Hello!
[11:11] <amgad> guys, can anyone please point me to a good tutorial to sync a pocket pc with dapper??
[11:11] <finalbeta> I installed compiz/xgl vanilla, now I can't play enemy territory, looks way crappy. can it be fixed
[11:12] <FunnyLookinHat> finalbeta, revert back to regular X
[11:12] <stefg> FunnyLookinHat: there's a start and stop bit :-) so ten bits is closer to the truth
[11:12] <ic56> FunnyLookinHat: 8 bits / byte + 1 parity bit + 1 stop bit = 10 bits
[11:12] <finalbeta> FunnyLookinHat, that's great advice
[11:12] <trev__> i recently set up my windows drives with the script from the ubuntu website but now they ahve icons on my destop, i don't need icons here and i can't delete them, so how do i move them?
[11:12] <FunnyLookinHat> stefg, oh this is true...  ; )
[11:12] <storm> What program in Ubuntu can I open up a chm file?
[11:13] <scythe> brb., hopefully... I just completed my dist-upgrade after screwing up... wish me luck.
[11:13] <eigenlambda> hm
[11:13] <Nekow42> I ran memtest86+ and got 1 error... I'm having no instability problems running Ubuntu, however... Can I ignroe this or will it come back and bite me later?
[11:13] <FunnyLookinHat> finalbeta, well, I'm serious...   Did you mean, specifically how to do that?
[11:13] <FunnyLookinHat> finalbeta, it's not like compiz and XGL are "supported" in any fashion really
[11:13] <finalbeta> Yes, I know they are not supported.
[11:13] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me build this gaim plugin for quod libet? http://soren.overgaard.org/cgi-bin/index?t=gaim_ql
[11:13] <ryanakca> ic56: kk, :)
[11:13] <ryanakca> ic56: ty :)
[11:13] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: I'm just going to give up for now
[11:13] <eigenlambda> 'k
[11:13] <finalbeta> Booting into normal X is no sollution. just enother bugfix for the biunch
[11:13] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: I have to get some work done
[11:14] <eigenlambda> ya igtg neway
[11:14] <Flannel> amgad: theres a program called SynCE, it's in the repositories
[11:14] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: I'll try again tomorrow
[11:14] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: Thanks for your help
[11:14] <eigenlambda> dunno when you can find somebody in the linux lab
[11:14] <Nekow42> storm:CHM as in compiled help file?
[11:14] <matthewmcvicka1> eigenlambda: See ya
[11:14] <eigenlambda> np man
[11:14] <eigenlambda> cya!
[11:14] <gatekeeper> EruditeHermit: sorry don't know that one so I could not comment, most of the stuff you want can be found by using these repos: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:14] <FunnyLookinHat> finalbeta, I would bet that th epeople in #ubuntu-xgl could fix it then if you don't like my solution
[11:15] <ic56> ryanakca: yw!
[11:15] <storm> Nekow42: idk, i dl a mysql ebook and its a chm file
[11:15] <amgad> Flannel, i know it, and i tried to use it folowing the instructions on its howto, but it doesn't work, do you know a tutorial or something that  may contain usefeull tips?
[11:15] <finalbeta> thnx FunnyLookinHat  didn't kjnow that channel
[11:15] <trev__> does anyone know how to move hard drive icons off the destop?
[11:15] <FunnyLookinHat> finalbeta, np  : )
[11:15] <stefg> !ppc
[11:15] <Flannel> EruditeHermit: you can also see !repositories and !easysource
[11:15] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[11:16] <tmccrar1> I need to run Xorg 7.1, because of the new features in the i810 driver... does edgy have it yet?
[11:16] <Flannel> gatekeeper: you registered with ubuntuguide?  mind changing something on that page to make it more correct?
[11:16] <FunnyLookinHat> tmccrar1, as far as I know xorg 7.1 is in dapper
[11:16] <tmccrar1> Or, is there any documentation on building xorg 7.1 for use in apper
[11:16] <tmccrar1> dapper
[11:16] <tmccrar1> xorg 7.1 is in dapper?
[11:16] <tmccrar1> ??
[11:16] <Nekow42> storm: A cursory glance in synaptic reveals libchm
[11:17] <storm> Nekow42: so if I install that, what would I use to open it, thanks for the help
[11:17] <FunnyLookinHat> tmccrar1, oh I'm sorry, it is 7.0
[11:17] <tmccrar1> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
[11:17] <tmccrar1> I'm using Xubuntu 6.06, and it appears to be using Xorg 7.0
[11:17] <epidemik> how can i find the tempature of my cpu?
[11:17] <Lobster> n8
[11:17] <Nekow42> storm: one of the test programs in the package libchm-bin might work...
[11:18] <gatekeeper> Flannel: sorry no I am not registered, and I guess you are going to tell me about the none-free ? :-)
[11:18] <tmccrar1> FunnyLookinHat: Thanks though :)
[11:18] <FunnyLookinHat> tmccrar1,   I would not suggest using edgy yet unless you are REALLY desperate.   it is not stable at all
[11:18] <epidemik> how can i find the tempature of my cpu?
[11:18] <tmccrar1> I just want Xorg 7.1
[11:18] <epidemik> can i?
[11:18] <storm> Nekow42: ty
[11:18] <FunnyLookinHat> tmccrar1, you could ask in #ubuntu-motu concerning the release schedule for xorg 7.1
[11:18] <Nekow42> storm: even easier
[11:18] <epidemik> how can i find the tempature of my cpu?
[11:18] <Flannel> gatekeeper: no, about using sudo with gedit, and how it's dangerous.  Just point them to the ubuntu wiki page in the future.
[11:18] <tmccrar1> I need to be able to use xrandr to change my screen orientation at runtime (tablet pc)
[11:18] <Nekow42> storm: xchm looks exactly like what you're looking for
[11:18] <stefg> tmccrar1: what you relly want is trouble :-)
[11:18] <storm> Nekow42: ty so much
[11:19] <tmccrar1> I'll check in motu, thanks
[11:19] <gatekeeper> Flannel: which one?
[11:19] <scythe> woot!! dist-upgrade saved me!!
[11:19] <tmccrar1> I'm not too worried about compiling Xorg, but I am curious if there is an "ubuntu way" to do it
[11:19] <Flannel> gatekeeper: wiki.ubuntu.com, or, more recently help.ubuntu.com, the links ubotu gives, like !repositories, etc
[11:19] <mirak> is there anyone from UK here ?
[11:19] <LjL> !uk
[11:19] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[11:20] <gatekeeper> !repositories
[11:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:20] <trev__> can anyone tell me please how do you remove a mounted hard drive icon from the destop?
[11:20] <Nekow42> storm: there is also gnochm, which is a gnome program
[11:20] <scythe> how do I check which version of the kernel and ubuntu I am running?
[11:21] <Nekow42> scythe: uname -a
[11:21] <storm> Nekow42: ty
[11:21] <LjL> scythe: uname -r for the kernel, cat /etc/issue for ubuntu
[11:21] <scythe> ty, I never remember that
[11:21] <Oni-Dracula> everyone! hop on jabber and go to ubuntu@onference.jabber.org !
[11:22] <scythe> I just did a sudo bash, then an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, but it says I am stilll on breezy
[11:22] <christianpiper> Hey- I just installed 6.06 on my desktop, and I cant connect to the internet. It is a m2n32-sli deluxe motherboard......
[11:22] <LjL> ... is that spam?
[11:22] <scythe> thoat doesnt sound right
[11:22] <Mysta> whats the difference between running a server as a standalone daemon or by way of inetd or xinetd?
[11:22] <LjL> Mysta: that with inetd, you can have inetd set the policies for who can access what where from
[11:22] <wastrel> Mysta:  with inetd it respects hosts.allow and hosts.deny for one.
[11:23] <Tomatix> bttv<3
[11:23] <Nekow42> Mysta: In addition, it's more practical to start and stop it through inetd
[11:23] <Mysta> LjL & wastrel: thanks, so it looks like if I want more control over who I give access to I should go w/ inetd?
[11:24] <scythe> anyone know why the issue file would still say breezy when all of my sources and updates are dapper?
[11:24] <LjL> Mysta: though you can also set iptables (i.e. firewall) rules to that purpose
[11:24] <Mysta> LjL: gotcha very informative, thanks.
[11:25] <Mysta> Nekow42: thanks for the tip, looks like inetd it is.
[11:25] <gatekeeper> Flannel: I have a little home page I constructed with some usefull links I am tempted to take that section copy it and suitable modify it
[11:26] <}btorch{> is there a way to tell ubuntu not to start up whatever is in the rc2.d ?
[11:26] <bur[n] er> scythe: did you dist-upgrade?
[11:27] <scythe> yes, just did a sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade right now
[11:27] <bur[n] er> scythe: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[11:27] <scythe> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 189 not upgraded
[11:27] <gatekeeper> scythe: what get returned by this: cat /proc/version ?
[11:27] <bur[n] er> scythe: find why they didn't upgrade
[11:28] <scythe> ohh,
[11:29] <scythe> 2.6.12-10 ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8.1 (/proc/version)
[11:29] <scythe> how do I find out why they didnt upgrade?
[11:29] <Jesus> scythe: I sometime get that same thing. I have always solved it by "Mark all upgrades"-button in synaptic. Somehow that works and apt-get upgrade doesn't.
[11:29] <jiSh> whats a nice fluxbox-ish computer stats module for gnome that doesnt eat a lot of RAM
[11:29] <scythe> and what does the install-ubuntudesktop do?
[11:30] <Flannel> scythe: you should always reinclude your meta packages before upgrades
[11:30] <Nekow42> scythe:Ubuntudesktop is a package that depends on all the ubuntu components
[11:30] <scythe> flannel what?
[11:30] <n3rdism> w00t i have grub working! ^_^
[11:30] <}btorch{> i guess there is no way ?
[11:31] <Flannel> scythe: "ubuntu-desktop" is the full ubuntu desktop, all required packages, etc.  if you remove some components, you remove the 'ubuntu-desktop' package, and if new things get added in, you won't get them with an upgrade unless you have ubuntu-desktop again
[11:31] <scythe> gimp and xchat dependencies are not met and are not going to be installed (ubuntu-desktop
[11:31] <mp3guy> whenever I choose a different context broswer style in amarok, it gets really sluggish, is there a way to fix this?
[11:31] <bur[n] er> scythe: so fix all that ;)
[11:31] <scythe> shouldn't be too hard
[11:31] <scythe> thankx
[11:32] <Flannel> mp3guy: you may have better luck in #kubuntu
[11:32] <pianoboy3333> !info checkinstall edgy
[11:32] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.6.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 86 kB, installed size 392 kB
[11:33] <scythe> maybe not so easy
[11:33] <bur[n] er> anyone know where to find a changelog  on the latest kernel?
[11:33] <bur[n] er> I don't see it in the dapper-changes ML
[11:33] <scythe> says a bunch of files were held back
[11:34] <scythe> just so you know, you suck is not a valid command
[11:34] <scythe> :)
[11:34] <n3rdism> whenever i boot grub tries to go to hd1 and fails so i have to edit it and make it go to hd0. i have to do this each time it boots, i tried savedefault but that didnt do anything. is there a file i can edit so that it ALWAYS goes to hd0?
[11:35] <bur[n] er> scythe: find out what package is holding htem back... dist-upgrade doesn't do anything?  lame
[11:35] <bur[n] er> scythe: try to install each package by hand that it can't install
[11:35] <bur[n] er> maybe you'll find where the block is
[11:35] <heretician> "A message has been sent to heretician@gmail.com, encrypted with the key 1024D/A8015966. To confirm the key is yours, decrypt the message and follow the link inside." -- How do I decrypt a key?
[11:35] <scythe> that is 189 files, and i dont have that amount of time :)
[11:36] <scythe> is there a verbose debug?
[11:36] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I stop then restart X?
[11:36] <Flannel> n3rdism: edit your grub config file
[11:36] <n3rdism> flannel: in /boot/grub?
[11:36] <Flannel> n3rdism: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:37] <n3rdism> gotcha :) thanks man
[11:37] <Flannel> heretician: er, it's probably GPG, but, it might be anything, check for instructions on the site
[11:37] <patrick_king> i dont know if this is the right place to ask this but here goes, how do i set up a ubuntu server to be a domain controller
[11:37] <heretician> Flannel: Its LaunchPad :/
[11:38] <heretician> Flannel: GPG
[11:38] <patrick_king> !mysql
[11:38] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:39] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I Stop then restart X?
[11:39] <stefg> cleanup time for gnomefreak, heh?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> yeah
[11:39] <jrib> Corporal_Dirge: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop   sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[11:39] <Corporal_Dirge> jrib, thanks.
[11:39] <n3rdism> thanks flannel!
[11:41] <ttyfscker> I decided i'd dist-upgrade to edgy for some reason... keepin my fingers crossed with this experiment
[11:41] <scythe> updatemanager seems happy to do the upgrade for me
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: i wouldnt do that
[11:42] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: why not?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> its broken
[11:42] <scythe> I think ill just let it:) screw this cli stuff
[11:42] <ttyfscker> hrmm
[11:42] <scythe> :)
[11:42] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: what is broken/
[11:42] <trev__> ok, i used the script from ubuntus website to add my ntfs hardrives but now they both have icons on the destop, how do i get rid of the icon
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: like kernel not boot type broken
[11:43] <n3rdism> does anyone know where i can get vlc?
[11:43] <scythe> ouch
[11:43] <brlancer> I'm trying to set a modules alias to load it as a specific if-name -- I've created a file in /etc/modprobe.d/module_name and I've also tried putting the entry in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases but neither have the intended effect -- does something else need to be configured? am I missing something?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> !info vlc
[11:43] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[11:43] <gnomefreak> n3rdism: in universe repo
[11:43] <ttyfscker> n3rdism:: make sure you have universe in your sources.list...then do:  sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:43] <regress> I just booted up the LiveDVD 6.06, and I had an install with fedcore3 previously...I have a few mp3 files I recoreded that I would like to get off. How can I mount the hd that had the mp3'?
[11:43] <scythe> anyone know of a modem driver for connexant soft modems? or am I going to have to use alien on my rpm
[11:43] <sycho> Has anyone gotten Propellerheads reason to work under linux or is there an equivelent?
[11:44] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: what dont work? not boot kernel type
[11:44] <ttyfscker> ?
[11:44] <stefg> http://nightlies.videolan.org has dapper packages of vlc 0.8.5
[11:44] <n3rdism> ttyfscker: where can i check my sources.list?
[11:44] <n3rdism> thanks stefg
[11:44] <regress> does ubuntu automagically mount all available partitions on all hds?
[11:44] <ttyfscker> n3rdism:: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <scythe> sources.lst is in /etc/apt
[11:44] <scythe> and tty beat me to it
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: the latest edgy kernel wont boot but feel free to try it (its alot easier to not bother )but as you wish
[11:44] <scythe> thats what I get for screwing with a laptop sized hd
[11:44] <n3rdism> thanks
[11:45] <mamatoshi> hello everyone
[11:45] <scythe> kb not hd
[11:45] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: 2.6.17-5 doesnt boot for anyone?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> you have to work around it
[11:45] <tailsfan> Easycam2 will noit detect my webcam what do I do
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: but not time nor place to be talking about it
[11:45] <ttyfscker> tailsfan:: what kind of cam do you have?
[11:46] <sycho> Has anyone gotten Propellerheads reason to work under linux or is there an equivelent?
[11:46] <tailsfan> Wimicro USB PC Camera
[11:46] <regress> how can I view all of the hd's and partitions for mounting via a gui?
[11:46] <regress> or o I need to use the terminal?
[11:47] <tailsfan> Vimicro*
[11:47] <tailsfan> !webcam
[11:47] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:47] <mamatoshi> you can use sudo fdiks -l for viewing from terminal
[11:47] <bur[n] er> regress: nautilus?
[11:47] <PingunZ> !decide ubuntu or M$
[11:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about decide ubuntu or M$ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:47] <scythe> tailsfan, you can edit your /etc/fstab and have them automount
[11:47] <regress> bur[n] er: yeah
[11:47] <tmccrar1> is there a way to listen to every key code sent to xorg? I have some extra buttons on my laptop and I'd like to find out what they are so I can assign them
[11:47] <scythe> then they shoudld show up on your desktop
[11:47] <test> How does one change the icons inside applications and the unchangable ones in gnome?
[11:47] <ttyfscker> tailsfan:: you need to install the linux-headers.. and then you need to download the source package of v4l-dvb at linuxtv.org
[11:47] <stefg> regress: have a guess what system monitor is for
[11:47] <ttyfscker> tailsfan:: this package supports several different v4l input devices..
[11:48] <ttyfscker> tailsfan:: first you might want to try loading the usbcam driver, or pwc, or spca5xx
[11:48] <regress> hmm, I used it before for process montiroring, but I do remember something along the lines of partitions...
[11:49] <tailsfan> The Drvier disk I have is for Windows Only
[11:49] <ttyfscker> you wont use the drivers disk at all
[11:49] <ttyfscker> tailsfan:: see what sudo modprobe pwc does
[11:49] <stefg> regress: the simplest way is 'sudo fdisk -l' or 'cat /proc/partitions' in a terminal
[11:50] <ThomasM> a good suggestion for anybody running gnome whose computer is running slow. Run xfce with nautilus and gnome-panel, gnome services enabled, and with thunar and xfce4-panel killed. It looks and acts like gnome, but somehow runs 1000 times faster. Just a little tip for anybody who would appreciate it as much as I do.
[11:50] <regress> stefg: that was what I was looking for, lemme give it a try
[11:50] <cius> Okay, I use eterm, and eterm doesn't handle things like Naim's windowlist or international characters properly.  gnome-terminal handles these fine, but would eterm's inability to handle them be a result of the encoding its using or the font?
[11:50] <wastrel> ThomasM:  write a howto :] 
[11:50] <TuxSurfer> hello
[11:50] <ThomasM> wastrel mebbe ;)
[11:50] <test> TuxSurfer: Hiya
[11:50] <TuxSurfer> can somebody tell me if ubuntu live cd will run on a mac?
[11:50] <tailsfan> I did nothing
[11:50] <ThomasM> xfce has the regular ubuntu theme and iconset as well
[11:50] <epidemik> how do i tell what pci card i have?
[11:50] <tailsfan> It did nothing*
[11:50] <LjL> TuxSurfer: if you get the Mac one, yeah
[11:51] <ubuntu> DCC CHAT "x0as0f0as0" 0 0 0
[11:51] <ThomasM> TuxSurfer you need the mac version, unless you have a new mac.
[11:51] <epidemik> TuxSurfer: Yes it will get the right kind
[11:51] <LjL> !ops
[11:51] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:51] <ubuntu> wat
[11:51] <epidemik> how do i tell what pci card i have?
[11:51] <mamatoshi> epidemic:: do sudo lspci
[11:51] <epidemik> kk
[11:51] <epidemik> thanks
[11:51] <Hobbsee> nalioth: ping
[11:51] <TuxSurfer> ok thanks for the info everybody
[11:51] <test> How does one change the icons inside applications and the unchangable ones in gnome?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> oopps
[11:52] <Hobbsee> lovely.
[11:52] <Seveas> sigh
[11:52] <cristiano> hello everybody can i ask u something concerning my asoundrc file?
[11:52] <ThomasM> this computer has 32mb of ram, thats why gnome was running slow. I was trying to get DSL installed @ my cottage (166Mhz processor), but it's ugly. I might just run ubuntu with "xfcegnome" instead.
[11:52] <Seveas> theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerees losers on the sarboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow...
[11:53] <test> Star Trekkin across the universe
[11:53] <trev__> can anyone please tell me how to turen of the default display of hardrives on the destop
[11:53] <trev__> *off
[11:53] <ThomasM> cristiano, you probably should just ask your question :)
[11:53] <Seveas> trev__, open gconf-editor and go to /apps/nautilus/desktop
[11:53] <trev__> thx
[11:54] <cristiano> here is my asouncrc.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18308 it looks like it's working for every apps (even firefox) exept for system sounds (amsn, gaim,..) why?!?
[11:54] <HBuzacott> Anyone had any experience with compiling the brzcom driver? Damn thing isn't compiling. I keeping getting the error "cc1: error: ../include/linux/config.h: not a directory". [../ is the pcmcia source] .
[11:54] <cristiano> i've put plug:dmix0 in system settings--->sounds
[11:54] <cius> is there way to find out what encoding and font gnome-terminal uses?
[11:55] <cristiano> the same plug:dmix0 has been put in kaffeine, amarok and others and work great!!!
[11:55] <ThomasM> cristiano, kaffeine and amarok use arts sound.
[11:55] <ThomasM> that would be why they are working
[11:56] <cius> in the profile I have "use system terminal font" checked, but how can I determine what that is?
[11:56] <test> How does one change the icons inside applications and the unchangable ones in gnome?
[11:56] <trev__> Seveas: thankyou so much, is that directory sort of like the windows registry
[11:56] <cristiano> mmm ThomasM i've been using xine engine with alsa in amarok and kaffeine..why arts?
[11:56] <ThomasM> oooo....
[11:56] <tailsfan> ttyfscker what file do I download from linuxtv.org?
[11:56] <ThomasM> i dunno cristiano
[11:57] <ttyfscker> tailsfan:: hang on lemme give you a URL
[11:57] <ThomasM> test: you would need to change the icons in the source code of those programs.
[11:57] <MTecknology> I need help - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18309
[11:57] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:58] <test> ThomasM: Really? There isn't a directory that stores the icon files or some such?
[11:58] <cristiano> ThomasM: thx however :)
[11:58] <mamatoshi> test: you can see the icons in your home folder ~/.incons
[11:58] <helfrez> anyone know if there have been any recent patched to network manager...the ubuntu one seems borked alot, for wireless, last time i tried it it couldnt seem to pass keys from keyring for some reason on my laptop with a mpi350
[11:58] <mamatoshi> test: i mean ~/.icons
[11:58] <confrey> I need to create and/or change gnome themes, is there any application to do it?
[11:59] <HBuzacott> confrey, System > Pref. > themes
[11:59] <andy-> System > Prefrences > Themes
[11:59] <ttyfscker> tailsfan:: http://www.linuxtv.org/downloads/dvb/dvb/snapshots/v4l-dvb-20060715.tar.gz    grab that,   then untar it, and run make,  sudo make install
[12:00] <stefg> !info checkinstall
[12:00] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB
[12:00] <test> Thanks ThomasM. Now how does one get the source to change these things?