[12:09] RichJ: just reading at the log, you are of course already forgiven :) [12:09] raphink: at least the uploads have been accepted ;) [12:10] yes Tonio_ [12:11] Tonio_: you'll have no job for six months? [12:11] Riddell: I don't want to no [12:12] abattoir: sure [12:12] it is very complicated, but I'm going in a city where I will never find anything... [12:12] so let's make a baby for my girlfriend to get enough points to be able to leave to another place [12:12] that's the plan :) [12:12] Riddell: thanks, that'll give me time to figure out rsync and bzr. [12:12] we need that she gets points [12:12] whe's a teacher, and that's quite complicated in france [12:12] Tonio_: no wedding plans? [12:13] Riddell: probably in a few years, but not still no :) [12:13] abattoir: search for ddaa's blog on bzr, it explains how to put it all in the supermirror and/or get it listed on launchpad [12:13] imbrandon: looking at kdeaddons now [12:13] abattoir: although I don't know if oem-installer is listed on launchpad [12:13] Riddell: ok, will do. [12:14] Tonio_: hmm, baby before marrage seems the wrong way around [12:14] does to me too, but [12:14] Riddell: I can understand this, but that's commonhere in france now [12:14] i guess some people like doing it the other way around [12:14] I have a friend of mine who is african [12:14] is parents got married when they were 70 years old [12:15] wow! [12:15] ubuntu's gone all blue [12:15] Riddell: its' just your eyes, going crazy. [12:15] simply a problem of culture [12:15] baby before marriage is very common in france [12:16] Riddell: is that very different in scotland ? [12:16] it would be frowned upon in polite society [12:16] interesting... [12:16] Riddell: i cant seem to find it on LP, should i ask Kamion about it tomorrow? [12:17] well in my view marriage is only a signed paper [12:17] it's important especailly if the woman takes a long career break for the baby, then marrage means she gets a share of the guy's pension [12:17] especially when you know 50% of the people are splitting up after this [12:17] abattoir: I think he just puts it on a webserver, in which case you can do the same, do you have a suitable webserver? [12:17] Riddell: no need to be married for this in france [12:18] we have another thing that is equivalent to marriage, called "pacs" [12:18] Riddell: i have the one you gave me, muse.19inch.net :) [12:18] abattoir: perfect [12:18] Riddell: I hope i can use it till the end of SoC, i'll find a host after that... [12:18] Riddell: it gives the equivalent rights than getting married [12:18] abattoir: yeah, that's fine [12:18] Riddell: ok, thanks [12:19] Tonio_: do you that? [12:19] yes [12:19] in fact marriage in now just a matter of culture in france, but the technical thing is more "pacs" than marriage [12:19] oh no, who's broken down now.... [12:19] it is especially usefull for gays, since pacs is allowed for them too [12:20] and as marriage is **very** expensive, I prefer to wait and make a great party with all of my friends in a few years === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:23] poor dad. [12:23] he broke down on a major freeway, in peak hour traffic. [12:25] heh, tell um to call my daughter's god mother...she'll come pick um up [12:25] they are greek..and talk really weird..it is a combo greek+aussie accent [12:26] my daughter speaks greek fluently and has a hard time understanding [12:26] heh [12:31] night all [12:31] sleep well === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [12:33] is there any point in updating knetworkmanager? [12:36] sure [12:39] Riddell: why would i be having trouble building it from svn? or is it really building, but not obviously updating === Hobbsee grabs a build log [12:42] I don't follow [12:43] Riddell: i'm using the script found http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager to get the source from svn. [12:44] Riddell: http://rafb.net/paste/results/XesMjm87.html is the build log [12:45] it seems to think nothing needs compiled [12:45] Riddell: yeah, and i'm not sure why [12:45] "Checked out revision 563954." that would have files above it if anything had changed [12:46] it didnt even do a compile in the first svn revision i grabbed [12:49] odd [12:52] imbrandon: uploading [12:53] all of them ? [12:53] imbrandon: no, just kdeaddons [12:53] havent tested the others yet [12:53] heh ok [12:55] whee...slow upload. [12:56] Hobbsee: are there lots of changes in knetworkmanager ? [12:56] imbrandon: Successfully uploaded packages. [12:57] Tonio_: i'm not sure, probably not that many... [12:57] because I was waiting for 0.1 to be released to update the package [12:57] based on the commit messages [12:57] Hobbsee: that's the reason I didn't at the moment [12:57] Tonio_: ah right, okay. i was only playing with it cos my wifi card wasn tworking :P [12:57] Tonio_: what's the status of kio-locate? === Hobbsee will have to go back to an old ndiswrapper [12:57] Riddell: still searching for a solution [12:57] Tonio_: what's the problem? [12:57] I was about to contact upstream [12:58] Riddell: a very strange and weird build issue with scons [12:58] Riddell: afaik, it has to be fixed upstream, but I don't know scons enought to patch it myself [12:58] right [12:58] shame tvo seems to have left us [12:59] imbrandon: did you do libqtpod and ipodslave? [12:59] Riddell: this is a very rare issue (5 or 6 results in google) [12:59] uniq, was working on it now [12:59] uniq, unless you have it done [01:00] ;P [01:00] imbrandon: i have libqtpod done.. (not tested). if you want it.. [01:00] ok [01:00] but there are people that have found the solution for other apps, so I'l send a few mails and wait for a response, especially from upstream [01:00] if anyone's thinking of stealing my ktrack, dont bother. kpowersave and powersave are on REVU, if someone wants to fixed my broken versions. [01:00] breakfast time. [01:00] uniq imbrandon@kubuntu.org please [01:00] or a link hehe ( i'm on the lappy atm ) [01:00] imbrandon: i'll put it on the web.. hang on. [01:01] ok [01:01] brown.freenode.net/#kubuntu-devel <-- in irssi, really quick, how can i shrink that? [01:01] Riddell: I'll let ou know, but I hope to have a working package in 2 or 3 days === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:05] Hobbsee: concerning the wifi, I'll come soon with a kwlan package, which you should have a look at [01:05] seems to work pretty nicelly === Tonio_ really hates scons..... [01:08] Riddell: only thing I can confirm is that build fails with both mini-scons and the standalone scons, in any version [01:09] the point is I'm sure it works for upstream since I don't see a developper releasing something that fails to compile out of the box... [01:09] that's why it is probably better to contact him [01:09] http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/tmp/edgy1.png [01:09] Riddell: can \sh have a look maybe ? I think he is pretty good with python and scons [01:10] \sh_away: if you read this when you're back... :) === Tonio_ beds [01:11] I have to wake up at 4 am to finish the doc..... [01:11] I'm sure \sh_away would love to look at kio-locate [01:12] RichJ, that desktop logo looks like something my daughter would teeth on [01:12] haha ya [01:12] ubuntu cristal [01:19] imbrandon: libqtpod is at http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/libqtpod/ - not tested, not uploaded, just made. :) [01:19] now, i'm going to bed. nite. [01:20] uniq, gnight , thanks [01:26] Tonio_: ooh, nice, does it do WPA? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee pokes Seveas with the long pointy stick === Seveas shoves said stick up Hobbsees noseew [01:30] nose* === Hobbsee kicks Seveas [01:34] no voilence around here please [01:34] Riddell: even for Seveas? but he deserves it! [01:34] imbrandon: noticed a little problem with libqtpod.. on line 39 in debian/rules, change "usr/include/qtpod/" to "usr/include/libqtpod/" === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:37] Riddell: you're reminding me of your "children, children" line from a few weeks ago :P === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:52] imbrandon_: you either didnt set up your apt mirror, or it's not working === Hobbsee updates imbrandon_'s machine for him. [01:53] i dident set it up yet for edgy, its still syncing ( 22+gigs of downloads ) [01:53] updating what ? heh [01:54] imbrandon_: voyager [01:54] ah, fair enough === Hobbsee updates the base tarball first [01:56] imbrandon_: did you see if the first two had hit yet? [01:56] morning all [01:56] moins freeflying === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:56] hi freeflying, jsgotangco [01:57] good morning [01:58] Hobbsee, looks like bibletime is all that came accross -changes [01:58] imbrandon_: cool, and kdeaddons? [01:58] dunno still looking [01:58] dont see it though [02:00] imbrandon_: search for imbrandon? [02:01] awwww... [02:01] imbrandon_: yeah, right. damn. [02:01] Rejected: [02:01] Signer is not permitted to upload to the component 'main' of file 'kdeaddons_3.5.3-0ubuntu4.dsc' [02:02] imbrandon_: you'll have to poke Ridd*ell, rap*hink or Ton*io_ for that. [02:02] or me. [02:02] or crimsun [02:03] do you have free rein to upload kde despite main being frozen for K-1? [02:03] you -> kubuntu devs [02:03] crimsun: no [02:03] crimsun: not for main [02:03] so main's frozen for kde, too? ok. [02:03] crimsun: i was told "main is frozen, dont touch" [02:03] i believe so [02:03] right, that's my understanding, but edubuntu and xubuntu have exceptions [02:04] (as long as nothing touches ubuntu) [02:04] we wait, then [02:04] crimsun: ah...okay then...i'd have to ask on that one [02:06] hmm, we are frozen for edgy already? [02:06] robotgeek: no, just for flight 1 cd === robotgeek has been away from the scene [02:06] s/flight/knot/ [02:06] robotgeek: so i saw. i got motu, this morning :) [02:06] Hobbsee: congrats! [02:07] robotgeek: :) [02:07] robotgeek: yeah dude, we're frozen, we're releasing edgy this weekend and swapping codebase to use Vista next week. === Hobbsee goes off to have breakfast. [02:07] hehe [02:07] crimsun: i wouldn't expect anything less :) [02:11] fun... [02:12] vista ? i thought it was vista+1 [02:12] well let's not push into duke nukem forever territory [02:12] sabdfl should name edgy+1 vista , just to see ms crawl [02:12] oh, but whats his name pledged to neve rhave a delay as long as vista... === Hobbsee turns into an icicle again. [02:19] why turning into icicle? [02:19] RadiantFire: very cold === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === omeow_ [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:57] imbrandon_: ouch, w.r.t. boson-base - did you ever run lintian on it? [02:58] i seem to recall boson-base was quite terrible comign from debian [02:58] tho ic ould be wrong [02:58] i did nothing but rebuild them as riddell said ;P feel free to do whatever [02:58] Lathiat: yeah, it is. cvs dirs all over the place. [02:58] Lathiat: do i care about removing all the cvs stuff, or what? [02:59] Hobbsee, poke upstream to clean it up also then ;) [02:59] ehheheh [02:59] imbrandon: go for it :P === Hobbsee is just a mere uploader. [03:00] heh [03:01] ok Hobbsee ping my other self in a pm about the package comments please and i'll get to them when i get back upstairs ( can see now that i'm gonna have to start a todo list ) [03:01] hehe [03:01] imbrandon_: okay. your dekorator patch is fubar'd [03:02] imbrandon_: for some reason, you've modified config.guess and config.sub [03:02] no thats something else [03:02] are you guys aware of filterdiff(1)? :-) [03:02] the tar gz isnt what .... welll i said skip that one anyhow \ [03:03] filterdiff? no [03:04] crimsun: nope? [03:04] imbrandon_: you did? right. [03:04] i must have missed that [03:04] yea , well i thought i told you, might have been someone else but yea [03:04] skip that one [03:05] config.{guess,sub} can be filtered out of a diff.gz [03:05] ahh [03:05] crimsun, do tell ;P [03:05] if debian/rules has references to them, it's assumed that you build-dep on autotools-dev anyhow [03:06] in which case any diff for config.{guess,sub} is pretty redundant [03:08] hrm ok brb afkish === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee starts on kbiff, and wokrs her way down [03:12] er, imbrandon_ you twit... [03:14] ... [03:15] Hobbsee, ?? [03:15] imbrandon_: libgamin0's a dep, not a build dep. [03:15] well, it's no longer either, i guess, but it never was a build dep :P [03:16] i said so it dosent build dep on not as a build dep [03:17] .............. /me gos back to what he was doing [03:17] hmmm... [03:18] also from Riddell's wiki ( where i got it from ) : After Knot 1, assuming we decide to keep not using Gamin we need to rebuild these packages so they don't build-dep on libgamin0 [03:18] ;P === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:19] anyhow really afk now [03:19] okay [03:19] hi nixternal_ [03:20] imbrandon_: ah, interesting. that really should say that they depend on libgamin0. [03:20] doesnt matter that much === jjesse [i=user@69-87-140-87.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:51] hi jjesse === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:53] hello Hobbsee, congrats on earlier today :) [03:54] afk [03:54] jjesse: thanks :) [03:57] jjesse: repeat after me. we are developing for edgy, not dapper. === Hobbsee slaps self. [03:57] idiot. === Hobbsee repeats herself a couple of times, and tries to remember. [04:03] i blame being cold. [04:10] we are developing for edgy :) [04:10] why is someone wanting dapper stuff? [04:10] jjesse: no, i'm just being an idiot. twice. [04:11] doh [04:11] you were up early that's why :) [04:11] jjesse: actually, x3. [04:11] jjesse: ah...is that the problem...yes... [04:11] jjesse: although the first time i didnt realise the package was in main, so it came back REJECTED. [04:11] the other two i tried uploading to dapper. [04:11] bummer [04:12] so what new rights do you have now? the ability to upload to main or ? [04:12] jjesse: just to universe [04:12] jjesse: the meeting log's quite amusing :P [04:12] grin i saw most of it, i'll have to read what i missed later [04:12] does that mean you are an motu or ? a little confused on how that works [04:12] jjesse: yeah, i'm a MOTU [04:12] core dev people are the ones who can upload to main, MOTU to universe === Hobbsee is a Master. [04:13] do i have to refer to you as mistress Hobbsee now? [04:13] jjesse: no. you may refer to me as Queen Hobbsee. === jjesse bends one knee to his new queen [04:14] :P === Hobbsee isnt interested in being a mistress. [04:15] grin === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.84.69] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:15] hiya abattoir_ [04:15] hello Hobbsee :) [04:15] jjesse: how's doco going? seeing as you werent at the meeting yesterday? [04:16] doc is going slow, not much to update agains yet :) [04:16] Hobbsee: congratulations, btw :) [04:16] abattoir: thanks :) [04:19] but now that there is a daily cd out there we can start documenting against the changes, and we also have built up quite the group to go after a switching from windows to ubuntu (and making schanges for kuubntu [04:19] jjesse: nice :) === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:24] Hobbsee: isn't it like 12pm there or something? [04:25] jjesse: yeah, midday === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:51] imbrandon_: whatever's creating those extra pbuilder dirs on your system is very annoying. === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.51.85] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:10] adept is broken in edgy? === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:29] nixternal: for me, in amd64, i had to remove it in order to continue, so yes. [05:30] continue the upgrade that is [05:30] ya, it says that db is broke [05:42] OOo 2.0.3 getting packaged for edgy? [05:43] OK Dev's, this is what i would like to see for Knot 1 Documentation 'Release Information' [05:44] I want to know what is in Knot 1 that is huge!!! Like, what does it have that will make a person go 'Oh Wow Edgy Is Gonna Rock', now don't project the future knots, but what is in knot 1 [05:45] i have .... 2.6.17 kernel...kde 3.5.3 (nothing else yet ;))...Amarok 1.4.1...what else is in front of me that everyone should know about that makes the Kubuntu Edgy Knot 1 release kick @$$ === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.58.207] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=Me@208.138.25.160] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:11] Well Xen sold out [08:13] what? :) [08:13] Domain-0 0 1750 2 r----- 145514.7 [08:13] http://www.xensource.com/partners/microsoft_resources.html [08:14] that's not selling out [08:14] yeah [08:14] remember they're a technology company that specialises in virtualisation. It makes sense to offer interoperability with MS. [08:14] that's just that MS will be potentially shelling out $$$ for hypervisor know-how [08:16] i'm worry that Microsoft will but linux and kde one day [08:16] *buy === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:16] it's not like they could [08:16] silly boy [08:17] as for MS [08:17] they want linux to run as guest on windows [08:17] so they can keep domain 0 [08:17] eh eh [08:17] betas in second half of 2007 ah ah [08:18] they could if they want to [08:18] vinboy: No they couldn't [08:18] they can hire army to kill all the linux & kde programmers and take over [08:19] vinboy: No they couldn't [08:19] but they risk going to jail [08:20] mornfall: What would they gain by having Linux supported by Microsoft? [08:21] for MS? or for linux? === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.58.207] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:22] DaSkreech: it's all about integration for management [08:22] For MS [08:22] yes [08:22] crimsun: Yeah but if Microsoft already have a Virtualization program what do they want Xen for? [08:22] in any case, this is step /forward/, not a regression [08:23] being able to run the better os while keeping the control, that's points for MS :-) [08:23] A step forward would be having MS stuff virtualized on top of a dom0 linux [08:23] DaSkreech: that already works -- you just need a new intel cpu [08:23] DaSkreech: MS isn't dumb. They have a number of reasons for licensing the tech, the least of which is recognising their core strengths. [08:24] Ray Ozzie is not an idiot. [08:24] I know why they would want to have Linux on MS :) thats obvious [08:24] I don't know why they are supporting it [08:24] again, Ray Ozzie is not an idiot. [08:25] And then with Virtualized Linux servers on top of A Microsoft server [08:25] well, dom0 is in charge [08:25] and MS loves to be in charge [08:25] that's about it i guess :)) [08:26] of course, from the actualy sober perspective [08:26] it's the actual workhorse systems that matter [08:26] which would be linux in that scenario [08:26] As I said I know why MS wants linux to run on top of a Microsoft server [08:26] if anyone of you ever worked with LPAR [08:26] A license is a license [08:27] the management console thing is just a very limited unixy system [08:27] The interest in virtualized linux and then supporting it I don't get [08:27] Anyway when Xen gets around to supporting the virtualized AMD's I'll look again [08:28] virtualized amd's? amd got around to catch up? :P [08:28] mornfall: there's extensive work in that work (upcoming) from big blue and the hat [08:28] it already works with intel..... [08:28] which hat [08:28] red hat [08:29] i haven't noticed that [08:29] (speaking of both the bolts and the management consoles) [08:29] but, well [08:31] anyhow, --> offic [08:31] e [08:31] laters [08:32] anyone using 64bit distro here? [08:35] vinboy: I am [08:37] abattoir: do u find any specific problem? [08:37] vinboy: apart from the usual... nothing ;) [08:38] the usual being lack of proper support for stuff like flash, java [08:38] however if you are prepared to invest time, there are workaraounds [08:38] ah... ok [08:39] wat advantage does 64bit OS has over the 32bit? [08:39] is it worth the effort? [08:39] vinboy: for example you can setup a 32-bit chroot to make certain things which dont work in 64-bit [08:39] vinboy: people say its hard to notice for setup w/ less than 2gigs of ram [08:39] vinboy: but tbh, i do find it a bit faster than 32-bit [08:40] vinboy: whether it is worth the effort, is dependent on you... i guess. :) [08:41] abattoir: Are nearly all the repos also mirrored with 64 bit packages? [08:42] DaSkreech: i think almost all the packages, which can be packaged are available... [08:42] ok [08:42] certain stuff like wine dont work natively, afaik, hence package doesnt exist [08:44] oh ok [08:44] few weeks ago ppl have been talking about 64bit ubuntu is trash [08:45] vinboy: well, i definitely would disagree with that? [08:45] :) [08:45] *! [08:45] and i'd also like to know what they mean by 'trash' ? :P [08:46] one of the advantages w/ Ubuntu is that almost all the packages in i386 are also available(like DaSkreech was asking). I have used Mandriva 64-bit and the lack of packages was a major gripe there. === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:50] DaSkreech: i think i didnt understand you properly there.. were you asking if all the mirrors which have 32-bit packages have also 64-bit ones? [08:50] no [08:51] oh ok. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:08] 64bit os => gentoo effect [09:09] it was enough work that you really want to believe it was worth something :) [09:12] Riddell: Kamion applied the fixes to the sources.list issue with the daily build and has uploaded the changes === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.43.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:16] where can I get nice wallpaper for kubuntu? [09:17] kde-look.org [09:17] Or use GHNS === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.57.224] has joined #kubuntu-devel === keyne [n=fgonieau@sete.idealx.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:24] GHNS? === keyne [n=fgonieau@sete.idealx.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:26] Get hot new stuff [09:26] When you are setting your wallpapaer under the little monitor there is a button that says get new wallpaper [09:26] Click it [09:33] ic.. thanks [09:34] tat is so handy [09:35] yUP === kameron [n=kameron@S0106000129f5b884.cc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:40] my Xorg keep increasing it mem usage, now it is at 121mb [09:40] is that normal? [09:41] xrestop [09:41] could be kicker leaking pixmap mem [09:41] dcop kicker '' restart [09:41] if that is the case [09:41] wallpapers eat into x memory as well :)) [09:42] transparent konsole too [09:42] about anything that deals with biggish pixmaps is mem-expensive === mornfall doesn't have wallpaper, transparency in konsole or anything like that... got better uses for my ram [09:43] how do I check? [09:43] i did the dcop kicker but the mem doesn't reduce [09:44] must be something wrong === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950B6E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === keyne [n=fgonieau@sete.idealx.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:11] vinboy, you could launch ksysguard and filter on memory. [11:14] thank you [11:14] does anyone what fonts this screenshot is using? they look good http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/images/accounts1.png === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh [11:39] is there a channel for genbuntu? [11:39] what's that? [11:39] gentoo+ubuntu [11:39] ubuntu's package management with gentoo's compile-from-source [11:39] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208595 [11:39] yuch === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:44] Riddell: 18's iso can be installed well [11:44] freeflying|away: desktop or alternate? [11:44] freeflying|away: powerpc? [11:45] alternate for i386 [11:45] cool, thanks [11:45] :) [11:46] yay for nixternal doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Kubuntu/Edgy/Knot1 [11:47] nixternal: Printers in the k-menu is actually a bug :) [11:47]