[12:08] <happy> OOD: hm, is there any quick way how to fix it ? i do want to go throug the ati how-to hell ...
[12:08] <cpk2> the_hammer: you untarred into that folder?
[12:09] <ironfroggy> how can i move a partition backward in the drive? it has 2 gig of freespace between it and the previous partition.
[12:10] <the_hammer> ya
[12:10] <OOD> happy: i don't know, i have an nVidia card and haven't had any experience with ATi cards yet
[12:10] <the_hammer> everything is unzipped just fighting with it now
[12:10] <happy> OOD: hm, thank you again, i will check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI again :/
[12:10] <the_hammer> yesterday i type /configure and it did stuff today i do it and its not doing anything
[12:13] <happy> to all: i have lost desktop icons (home etc.), is there any way to get them back ? thank you
[12:13] <the_hammer> man this is driving me nuts says make install and that will install it where it is
[12:13] <the_hammer> i must be missin something
[12:13] <happy> i lost them after update
[12:14] <cpk2> the_hammer: make config do anything?
[12:14] <OOD> happy: right click desktop->create new->link to location
[12:15] <the_hammer> desont sdeem to
[12:15] <the_hammer> seem*
[12:15] <the_hammer> baa
[12:15] <the_hammer> it doesnt seem to
[12:16] <OOD> happy: :/media is like my computer in windows, i system:/remote is your network
[12:16] <OOD> and for home, just write in your home directory /home/username
[12:17] <cpk2> what does it say when you do ./config?
[12:17] <cpk2> err ./configure
[12:17] <happy> OOD: i know about it, but there is no way how to get it back in general ?
[12:18] <the_hammer> get a box pops up
[12:18] <happy> OOD: before kubuntu update, there were OK, after update, i lost them, so i decided to delete my .kde profile :)
[12:18] <OOD> any other desktop icons should be there
[12:18] <the_hammer> cant find or something likev that
[12:19] <happy> OOD: my desktop is clear, without any icons
[12:20] <OOD> happy: any at all? then i think they were all shortcuts, you'll just have to make then again by copying from the K-menu or just remaking them manually
[12:20] <the_hammer> is there away i can access it in terminal
[12:21] <Cornellius> I'm looking for a book or a doc that will tell me how Linux works internally. I already have some books, but all they tell are the commands, how to do the same as in Windows, how to configure Grub, Xorg, etc. Anyone have some good suggestions ?
[12:21] <happy> OOD: after installation they were OK, after update they disappeared :/
[12:22] <the_hammer> install it and give it a try and throw the books aside :)
[12:23] <the_hammer> best way to learn something is hop in with both feet and dont look back look forward :)
[12:24] <will> hey guys, just curious.  when you need SU permission to do something (like install a plugin) why doesn't it just ask for the SU password in the GUI?  can you set itup to do that?
[12:24] <cpk2> the_hammer: ./configure doesnt work in the folder where you untarred eggdrop?
[12:24] <Cornellius> The kind of book that will let me understand, LFS, Gentoo, ArchLinux, etc
[12:24] <the_hammer> nope
[12:24] <cpk2> whats the error?
[12:24] <the_hammer> ive been trying
[12:24] <the_hammer> says couldnt find it and to check the spelling
[12:25] <the_hammer> but how am i spelling it wrong /configure
[12:25] <cpk2> period before the /
[12:25] <cpk2> ./configure
[12:25] <the_hammer> nope
[12:26] <the_hammer> no period
[12:26] <cpk2> put a period
[12:26] <the_hammer> ok
[12:26] <the_hammer> nothing
[12:27] <cpk2> what did it say?
[12:27] <the_hammer> nothing
[12:27] <LjL> let me guess, you're trying to compile eggdrop.
[12:27] <cpk2> try make config now
[12:27] <the_hammer> but when i type /configure it goes uptop in the box says location
[12:28] <the_hammer> same there to
[12:28] <the_hammer> got the tabs uptop right?
[12:28] <LjL> box? location?
[12:28] <the_hammer> ya
[12:28] <LjL> aren't you in a shell?
[12:28] <cpk2> you could just empty out the folder and untar it again
[12:28] <the_hammer> and where it says location is where what i type goes into
[12:28] <cpk2> you arent in a terminal?
[12:28] <the_hammer> nope
[12:29] <cpk2> ...
[12:29] <LjL> i'm not really sure you're nearly in the right place.
[12:29] <cpk2> open in a terminal
[12:29] <the_hammer> so ya want me to delete the folder in usr and re-open rar on desktop?
[12:29] <LjL> and, at the cost of being repetitive, i'm still wondering why you can't use the eggdrop that's in the repos
[12:29] <cpk2> type cd /usr/share/eggdrop
[12:29] <the_hammer> its not in share
[12:29] <cpk2> no the_hammer
[12:30] <the_hammer> oh
[12:30] <cpk2> ok well open a terminal and go to wherever it is
[12:30] <gatekeeper> LjL: did you send me a ubotu message?
[12:30] <the_hammer> ok im there
[12:31] <the_hammer> oem@ubuntu:/usr/eggdrop$
[12:31] <LjL> gatekeeper: yep, i sent you one because you were disconnected by a stupid kiddie using an exploit in #ubuntu
[12:31] <cpk2> now type ./configure
[12:32] <the_hammer> ok
[12:32] <the_hammer> now theres an error
[12:32] <the_hammer> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:32] <gatekeeper> LjL: can you please send it again, I didn't realise what was going on
[12:32] <the_hammer> brb
[12:32] <LjL> !exploit
[12:32] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[12:32] <cpk2> the_hammer: i just read you need tcl to compile eggdrop
[12:33] <the_hammer> ok
[12:33] <LjL> !b-e
[12:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:33] <gatekeeper> LjL: thanks :-)
[12:33] <LjL> if you don't have a C compiler, you don't have build-essential
[12:34] <cpk2> the_hammer: i think apt-get install tcl8.0 is what you want
[12:34] <cpk2> you also might need general-build
[12:35] <cpk2> its not general-build, i forget the name
[12:35] <cpk2> !gcc
[12:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:35] <cpk2> build-essential
[12:36] <LjL> yeah, like i just said...
[12:36] <cpk2> heh didnt see that ljl
[12:36] <gatekeeper> LjL: thanx for that, I will sort it.
[12:37] <LjL> gatekeeper: i don't know if that site mentions it, but i recall that lilo said that, as a workaround, you can connect to freenode's port 8001 instead of 6667 and the exploit shouldn't work on you
[12:39] <hoppla> hello, i have a little question... my keyboard stopped working in kubuntu.. but works fine in console and gnome.. and with new user i can use keyboard in kde.. what file do i have to edit/remove to make it normal again ?
[12:41] <gatekeeper> LjL: thanks for that, I have a look at my configuration and see what it is doing.
[12:41] <the_hammer> do this?
[12:41] <the_hammer> sudo apt-get install autoconf
[12:42] <LjL> ?
[12:42] <LjL> no, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[12:42] <the_hammer> k
[12:42] <cpk2> and i think you will need tlc8.0 i think is what they mean when they say you need tlc to compile
[12:43] <the_hammer> interesting
[12:43] <hoppla> :/
[12:43] <the_hammer> Setting up build-essential (11.1)
[12:43] <cpk2> ?
[12:43] <the_hammer> was last thing it said
[12:43] <the_hammer> so mabe thats all i needed?
[12:44] <the_hammer> sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[12:44] <LjL> probably there's much more needed, like tcl as cpk2 said
[12:44] <the_hammer> ok apt-get work for that to?
[12:44] <cpk2> yes
[12:45] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[12:45] <cpk2> for tcl it is "sudo apt-get install tcl8.0"
[12:45] <the_hammer> nope didnt work
[12:45] <the_hammer> there we go
[12:45] <rysiek|pl> anybody here uses Kbfx? got some problems with it on Dapper
[12:46] <the_hammer> ok its installed
[12:46] <the_hammer> both those are
[12:46] <the_hammer> ok so now i wanna goto cd usr/eggdrop right?
[12:46] <cpk2> now try ./confige in the eggdrop folder
[12:47] <LjL-Bot> the_hammer: look ma, quick eggdrop bot with no compiling at all and no install build-essential ;)
[12:47] <the_hammer> lol
[12:48] <the_hammer> still same as before so try that in terminal
[12:48] <LjL> oh, i just installed eggdrop from the repositories, copied the default config file (which *is* there, and contained in the eggdrop-data package) and changed 5 or 6 lines of it
[12:48] <LjL> !info eggdrop-data
[12:48] <ubotu> eggdrop-data: Architecture independent files for eggdrop. In repository universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (dapper), package size 396 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[12:49] <the_hammer> ok now the fun part
[12:49] <posthuman> !acceleration
[12:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about acceleration - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:49] <posthuman> !nvidia
[12:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:49] <the_hammer> says its unable to access the tlc
[12:50] <the_hammer> so have to add that to the ./configure
[12:50] <LjL> you need the dev package
[12:50] <the_hammer> ok whats the command for that 1
[12:50] <LjL> apt-get install tcl8.0-dev
[12:50] <the_hammer> sudo apt-get install dev?
[12:50] <michel_> Anyone using NetworkManager with wifi?
[12:51] <the_hammer> says its already there
[12:51] <Hobbsee> michel_: yeah, knetworkmanager
[12:51] <jbatt> I have a problem getting kubuntu to sync a usb visor neo with kpilot and jpilot
[12:51] <the_hammer> !pastebin
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[12:52] <h3sp4wn>  LjL-Bot: The hammer ?
[12:52] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18311
[12:53] <the_hammer> not my bot nope llol i wish
[12:53] <cpk2> LjL: think though now he will have all these build tools and when he does actually have to compile something he wont be too lost
[12:53] <h3sp4wn>  LjL-Bot: why is mmpeg broken in dapper ?
[12:53] <cpk2> the_hammer: locate tcl
[12:53] <LjL> cpk2: hopefully. but still, i don't see the need for all this trouble, since someone else already went through all that compiling, in order to give Ubuntu a working eggdrop package...
[12:54] <h3sp4wn> LjL-Bot: How do you return it to the way it is by default ?
[12:54] <LjL-Bot> h3sp4wn: i'm a bot, not an oracle
[12:54] <cpk2> the_hammer: you didnt run "sudo apt-get install tcl8.0-dev"
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> LjL-Bot: maybe you could learn from dpkg then to become an oracle
[12:55] <the_hammer> doh
[12:55] <the_hammer> . /usr/lib/gaim/tcl.so
[12:55] <the_hammer> theres a ton of other stuff there to for tcl
[12:55] <the_hammer> yeah i did
[12:55] <cpk2> the_hammer: do sudo apt-get install tcl8.0-dev
[12:55] <the_hammer> i did
[12:55] <the_hammer> but i will again
[12:56] <LjL-Bot> h3sp3wn: ok, i'll try. let's see... "eggdrop" is an ancient Californian word for "i'm a script kiddie".
[12:56] <cpk2> hrmm now that i am looking it seems there is a tcl8.4
[12:56] <LjL-Bot> was that ok?
[12:56] <the_hammer> !pastebin
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[12:57] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18313
[12:57] <cpk2> the_hammer: "sudo apt-get install tcl8.4 tcl8.4-dev tcllib
[12:57] <cpk2> "
[12:57] <cpk2> alright nm you got the 8.0 dev so hopefully that works
[12:57] <the_hammer> ok done
[12:58] <cpk2> try ./configure again
[12:58] <cpk2> btw the_hammerthis is why its nicer using rpms and apt-get
[12:59] <the_hammer> finally!!!!
[12:59] <the_hammer> lol
[12:59] <the_hammer> ok now says this
[12:59] <the_hammer> oops hang on
[12:59] <the_hammer> !pastebin
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[01:01] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18314
[01:02] <cpk2> the_hammer: thats good, do what it tells you =P "make config"
[01:02] <Distro^Junkie> what do I install for kde headers ?
[01:02] <the_hammer> ok how do i do that
[01:02] <Generic> um
[01:02] <Generic> slight problem
[01:02] <the_hammer> You can now compile the bot, using "make".
[01:03] <Generic> i am not able to use the keys to the left of b
[01:03] <the_hammer> ran that in terminal
[01:03] <the_hammer> now what do i do
[01:03] <Generic> i was playing with global hot keys in banshee, and set those keys to do stuff when binded with the windows key
[01:04] <Generic> then those keys stopped working, so i disabled that plugin. but the problem persists
[01:04] <the_hammer> tried to msg ya
[01:04] <Generic> um
[01:04] <Generic> someone say the last letter of linu
[01:04] <the_hammer> ckk2?
[01:05] <the_hammer> msg me
[01:05] <Generic> i am not able to type that letter to join the room :/
[01:05] <the_hammer> oops cpk2 msg me
[01:05] <cpk2> i'm here
[01:06] <cpk2> you do make config
[01:06] <cpk2> and then make
[01:06] <z00m> hi could someone tell me if lynx sould be installed with a default install of kubuntu ?
[01:06] <the_hammer> ok i did that
[01:06] <LjL> z00m: no
[01:06] <the_hammer> still going
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> z00m: I prefer elinks
[01:06] <the_hammer> so not done "make" yet
[01:06] <cpk2> after make do make install destination
[01:06] <the_hammer> thought it was lol
[01:07] <the_hammer> ok
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> the_hammer: ever tried using imake ?
[01:07] <the_hammer> nope
[01:07] <z00m> LjL & h3sp4wn its just that i noticed it and never recall installing it, its just making me think someone rooted my box
[01:07] <the_hammer> so it be make install destination usr/eggdrop
[01:07] <the_hammer> ?
[01:08] <LjL> z00m: well there are a few packages that depends on lynx, so it could have been installed without you noticing
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> z00m: I think it maybe unlikely but possible
[01:08] <LjL> z00m: apt-cache rdepends lynx
[01:08] <the_hammer> cpk2?
[01:08] <the_hammer>  make install destination usr/eggdrop is this right?
[01:08] <Distro^Junkie> hmmm there is no kdelibs-dev for kde 3.5.2 ?
[01:09] <LjL> Distro^Junkie: it's called kdelibs4-dev
[01:09] <z00m> is there a paste bin so i can show you the output
[01:09] <the_hammer> yes
[01:09] <z00m> !pastebin
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[01:09] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[01:09] <LjL> z00m: no need
[01:09] <z00m> ;)
[01:09] <Generic> so
[01:09] <LjL> z00m: the output is the same as on my computer
[01:09] <Generic> anyone know how to get my keys to work again?
[01:09] <LjL> z00m: it just lists the packages that depend on lynx
[01:10] <z00m> ah right
[01:10] <mcscruff> i have written a small app that generates a huge file but it wont create one over 2gb.. can anyone help
[01:10] <Generic> i'm sorta trying to work in konsole
[01:10] <LjL> z00m: if you installed any of them, that would explain why lynx is installed
[01:10] <Distro^Junkie> LjL: yes but that is trying to pull in alot of deps for kde 4
[01:10] <the_hammer> LjL is this right command
[01:10] <the_hammer>  make install destination usr/eggdrop
[01:10] <Distro^Junkie> nm
[01:10] <LjL> z00m: or, you could just try "sudo aptitude remove lynx" (and then answer "no" when asked if you really want to remove) to see if any installed packages depend on it
[01:10] <cpk2> its /usr/
[01:10] <Distro^Junkie> doh!!
[01:10] <cpk2> its important to have the first /
[01:10] <the_hammer> make install destination usr <--so like this
[01:11] <z00m> LjL: ok ill try that
[01:11] <the_hammer> oops
[01:11] <LjL> the_hammer: i don't know. normally the command would be just "make install", with the destination having being defined by a "./configure" option. but i suppose the eggdrop Makefile may be different
[01:11] <cpk2> i suppose if you are in the folder it will probably make install in that folder
[01:11] <z00m> p0rn-comfort
[01:11] <z00m>     lynx-cur
[01:11] <z00m>  |octave2.1-htmldoc
[01:11] <cpk2> so mkae install will probably work
[01:11] <z00m> whats that, thats in my list
[01:11] <LjL> the_hammer: and i'm not sure but i think cpk2 meant that you type "make install /usr/whatever", without the "destination" text
[01:12] <z00m> with apt-cache rdepends lynx
[01:12] <cpk2> the_hammer: just try make install
[01:12] <z00m> i aint got time for porn, to busy learning perl ... lol
[01:13] <the_hammer> Remember to change directory to /home/oem/eggdrop before you proceed.
[01:13] <z00m> should that be there ?
[01:13] <the_hammer> what do i do now?
[01:13] <LjL> z00m: yeah, it's in my list too. quite normal. it's a package with a... debatable... name
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> perl is cool good language to learn
[01:13] <LjL> z00m: apt-cache show p0rn-comfort
[01:13] <z00m> ah thats ok then :D
[01:13] <cpk2> the_hammer: you do make install?
[01:13] <LjL> z00m: as long as it isn't actually installed...
[01:13] <the_hammer> yup
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> LjL: Do you think hot-babe should go into kubuntu ?
[01:13] <the_hammer> and the destination
[01:13] <the_hammer> then said this afterwards
[01:13] <the_hammer> Remember to change directory to /home/oem/eggdrop before you proceed.
[01:13] <Distro^Junkie> man alot of deps to try and build amarok from svn
[01:14] <cpk2> maybe it has to be in the home dir
[01:14] <LjL> h3sp4wn: well perhaps not in main ;)
[01:14] <the_hammer> ok so how do i move it
[01:14] <mcscruff> i have written a small app that generates a huge file but it wont create one over 2gb.. can anyone help
[01:14] <the_hammer> from usr
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> LjL: But I thought ubuntu included just what most people want ?
[01:15] <cpk2> you dont need to just do make install /home/oem/eggdrop
[01:16] <LjL> h3sp4wn: if it did, then it'd include the actual porn
[01:16] <cpk2> anyone have any idea how to use phpbb2-conf-mysql?
[01:18] <z00m> LjL: just tryed sudo aptitude remove lynx its just removed it without any questions about yes or no
[01:18] <the_hammer> something screwey here
[01:18] <the_hammer> !pastebin
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[01:18] <LjL> z00m: well, i think it's a bit excessive to deduce hackage just from that
[01:18] <Blizzz> gn8
[01:18] <LjL> z00m: anyway i suggest you install chkrootkit and rkhunter, and run them
[01:18] <mikmu> Fresh install of kubuntu 6.06 on toshiba satellite 1905.  Everything installed perfectly, except I'm having alot of trouble configuring dual-head
[01:19] <z00m> LjL: ok thanks
[01:19] <mikmu> My vid card is too old to be supported by the ati drivers, so I'm using the xorg radeon drivers
[01:19] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18316
[01:19] <LjL> mcscruff: http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html
[01:20] <mikmu> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only detects one monitor, not both...is there a utility to detect video settings and set up dual-head for me?
[01:21] <cpk2> the_hammer: the first install already installed it in /home/oem/eggdrop it looks like just navigate over there and edit the conf file accordingly
[01:22] <the_hammer> ok
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> LjL: I think someone needs to start an uncrypled repo for all the ubuntu stiff like mmeg but compatib;e
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> LjL: uncrypled multi media repo
[01:23] <LjL> well i'm not much into multimedia things, but isn't that a bit like what the penguin liberation front and other repos do
[01:25] <z00m> LjL: just ran chkrootkit and found nothing, then ran rkhunter and its says this
[01:25] <LjL> !pastebin
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[01:25] <z00m> just showing the warning
[01:26] <the_hammer> im noit sure how to run it
[01:26] <the_hammer> why do i get unknown commands?
[01:26] <cpk2> the conf file should explain what entry does what
[01:26] <z00m> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18317
[01:26] <LjL> z00m: yep, if it's just one line long just paste it here
[01:26] <LjL> z00m: anyway a few warnings like /dev/.udev are normal
[01:27] <cpk2> i have never used eggdrop so dont look at me
[01:27] <z00m> here ill just post the warning then
[01:27] <z00m> Scanning for hidden files...
[01:27] <LjL> z00m: the pastebin looks alright
[01:27] <z00m> [ Warning! ] 
[01:27] <z00m>  /dev/.static
[01:27] <z00m> /dev/.udev
[01:27] <z00m> /dev/.initramfs
[01:27] <z00m> /dev/.initramfs-tools /etc/.pwd.lock
[01:27] <LjL> yeah but that's normal, because ubuntu *has* some hidden dirs by default
[01:28] <z00m> ok ;)
[01:28] <the_hammer> hiw do i run the bot
[01:28] <cpk2> try "eggdrop"
[01:29] <LjL> z00m: mind you, that chkrootkit and rkhunter don't find anything does *not* mean you're not rooted. though on the other hand, i can see no substantial reasons to seriously believe you *are* rooted either
[01:29] <the_hammer> bash: eggdrop: command not found
[01:29] <z00m> LjL: you got nmap ?
[01:30] <LjL> z00m: yea
[01:30] <Raven301> !compiz
[01:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:30] <Raven301> !xcompmgr
[01:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about xcompmgr - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:30] <z00m> if you have got got time just scan me IP and check if the firewall leeks anything out, im on a internal network with an ADSL router
[01:31] <z00m> in fact i could just test that with a online firewall tester
[01:31] <cpk2> the_hammer: ./eggdrop -m configfile
[01:31] <the_hammer> bash: ./eggdrop: is a directory
[01:32] <cpk2> are you in the eggdrop folder?
[01:32] <the_hammer> doh
[01:32] <z00m> LjL: full complete scan with rkhuter http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18318
[01:32] <z00m> hunter^
[01:33] <the_hammer> [18:33]  --- Loading eggdrop v1.6.18 (Tue Jul 18 2006)
[01:33] <the_hammer> [18:33]  * CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)
[01:33] <the_hammer> what the hell
[01:34] <Hawkwind> z00m: That scan is perfectly normal
[01:34] <profoX`> the_hammer: have you created/edited the config file?
[01:34] <cpk2> when i said configfile i meant to use the name of the conf file you have
[01:34] <Hawkwind> z00m: I get the same exact stuff as I run rkhunter, clamav, and chkrootkit via a script with cron every day
[01:34] <z00m> Hawkwind: ok thanks for taking the time to check it out for me, i just noticed lnux installed on my box when i never remember installing it
[01:35] <z00m> lynx^
[01:35] <the_hammer> not sure
[01:35] <cpk2> wondering if anyone could help me setting up phpbb2? tried running phpbb2-conf-mysql but it doesnt seem to want to work
[01:36] <the_hammer> i put this at the top of it #! /home/oem/eggdrop
[01:36] <LjL> z00m: All 1679 scanned ports on host81-155-79-155.range81-155.btcentralplus.com (81.155.79.155) are filtered
[01:37] <the_hammer> defult says #! /path/to/executable/eggdrop
[01:37] <z00m> LjL: thats good then
[01:37] <the_hammer> thats all ive done to it so far
[01:37] <z00m> thanks for taking the time to check it out for me
[01:38] <the_hammer> and from the location says bash: eggdrop: command not found
[01:39] <LjL> to me /home/oem/eggdrop seems more like the name of a directory than that of a command
[01:39] <the_hammer> yeah thast where it is but efggdrop should run
[01:39] <the_hammer> oops eggdrop
[01:40] <LjL> the_hammer: if it's expecting a *command* rather than a directory (and "command not found" makes me thing exactly that), for sure it won't work with a directory
[01:40] <cpk2> LjL: couldnt you just check your conf? =P
[01:40] <the_hammer> ok and when i open terminal and just put in eggdrop that dont work ither
[01:41] <LjL> cpk2: my conf starts with #! /usr/bin/eggdrop
[01:41] <cpk2> you need to open a terminal then go to the eggdrop dir and then do ./eggdrop to run it
[01:41] <LjL> i mean #!/usr/bin/eggdrop
[01:42] <the_hammer> ahh
[01:42] <LjL> anyway "my" conf is just the standard conf that comes with Ubuntu, except the server is set to freenode, the nickname is changed and the two "die" lines are commented out
[01:43] <the_hammer> man im lost
[01:43] <the_hammer> im at this /home/oem/eggdrop
[01:44] <the_hammer> typed ./configure
[01:44] <the_hammer> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:44] <cpk2> sorry the_hammer its ./configure conffile
[01:44] <LjL> ?
[01:44] <LjL> conffile being?
[01:44] <the_hammer> same thing
[01:44] <cpk2> the name of the .conf file
[01:45] <LjL> of the eggdrop.conf file? hell no
[01:45] <the_hammer> eggdrop.conf
[01:45] <Lord_Athur> hi kubuntu guys, I've got a doubt, how do i earn karma?
[01:45] <cpk2> oops not ./configure
[01:45] <cpk2> i wasnt paying attention
[01:45] <cpk2> ./eggdrop heh
[01:45] <LjL> Lord_Athur: sorry?
[01:45] <the_hammer> lol
[01:45] <unix_infidel> Lord_Athur: help other people in the forums.
[01:45] <Lord_Athur> ok, thanks
[01:45] <unix_infidel> ya tool.
[01:46] <the_hammer> [18:45]  --- Loading eggdrop v1.6.18 (Tue Jul 18 2006)
[01:46] <the_hammer> [18:45]  * Please make sure you edit your config file completely.
[01:46] <Lord_Athur> isn't it important the work on wikis?
[01:46] <LjL> the_hammer: it's working. now edit the file.
[01:46] <cpk2> so edit it
[01:46] <the_hammer> man if it isnt 1 thing its another
[01:46] <the_hammer> how
[01:46] <the_hammer> i dunno how
[01:46] <cpk2> kate eggdrop.conf
[01:46] <LjL> the_hammer: with a text editor.   by the way, notice that this is the same point where i left you (except you just had to install the "eggdrop" package)?
[01:47] <BKaj> been trying to configure x-cd-roast , but no luck
[01:47] <the_hammer> command not found
[01:47] <BKaj> or the right commands m aybe :)
[01:48] <cpk2> the_hammer: you dont have kate?
[01:48] <the_hammer> guess not says unknown command
[01:49] <cpk2> i would say use vi but that is probably too linuxy for you =P
[01:49] <cpk2> if you want to use vi do vi eggdrop.conf and then press i to start making changes once you are done editing it press esc and then do :wq
[01:50] <unix_infidel> gedit works well if you want something easy.
[01:50] <the_hammer> mabe i should grab that i dunno
[01:50] <the_hammer> i know i need to edit the conf but not sure what to add/remove in it
[01:50] <unix_infidel> apt-get install gedit.
[01:50] <cpk2> or kate
[01:51] <unix_infidel> choose your poison...
[01:51] <unix_infidel> *shrug*
[01:51] <Hawkwind> Most people won't have gedit installed on a Kubuntu system though
[01:51] <cpk2> or both
[01:51] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: That requires most of Gnome though
[01:51] <Hawkwind> Most don't want that, or won't have that
[01:51] <BKaj> what is the configure command ?
[01:51] <Hawkwind> BKaj: ./configure ?
[01:51] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Depends on what you want to configure
[01:51] <LjL> the_hammer: there are instructions in the config file. anyway, it's very strange that you don't have kate, if you have kubuntu. you can also use nano, it's a bit simpler than vi
[01:52] <the_hammer> ubuntu i got
[01:52] <LjL> the_hammer: ah well then it'll be "gedit" not kate
[01:52] <BKaj> x-cd-roast...it says I need to configure it as super user , (sudo )
[01:52] <cpk2> BKaj: sudo ./configure
[01:52] <unix_infidel> BKaj: are you sure it says to configure as  root?
[01:52] <cpk2> in the dir
[01:53] <the_hammer> can just open it like text and add changes
[01:53] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Run it with sudo first
[01:53] <unix_infidel> usually the process is ./configure, make as normal user and make install as root.
[01:53] <LjL> configure as superuser? what are they thinking?
[01:53] <Hawkwind> BKaj: I assume you installed it with apt-get, correct ?
[01:53] <LjL> ... or smoking
[01:53] <unix_infidel> LjL: its not unheard of, but for the application he's mentioned i'm not sure its necessary.
[01:54] <Hawkwind> LjL: x-cd-roast has to be run as root the first time to find all the devices and to set it up for the normal user to run
[01:54] <LjL> BKaj: by the way, just FYI, i see that xcdroast is packaged
[01:54] <BKaj> unix_infidel: no root configuration file found or not readable !
[01:54] <Woosta> Anyone know of a kicker app that works like ubuntu (gnome I guess) places menu?
[01:54] <Hawkwind> It's been that way for years
[01:54] <cpk2> sounds like a cd burning program, might need root to mount and stuff
[01:54] <unix_infidel> BKaj: make sure you are in the proper dir.
[01:54] <Hawkwind> BKaj: I assume you installed it with apt-get, correct ?
[01:54] <the_hammer> how to open the tcl?
[01:54] <BKaj> it's in the k-menu
[01:54] <LjL> Hawkwind: ok but why would the *configure* script have to be run as root, still
[01:54] <Hawkwind> cpk2: Exactly
[01:54] <the_hammer> mabe thats all i need
[01:55] <cpk2> you dont need to open tcl
[01:55] <cpk2> you need to edit the .conf file
[01:55] <Hawkwind> LjL: If you run it as normal user, that's what it tells you.  It doesn't refer to ./configure as root like everyone here is thinking
[01:55] <the_hammer> i dunno what to add in there tho
[01:55] <LjL> Hawkwind: ah, well ok then that's different
[01:55] <cpk2> the .conf file should explain the settings
[01:55] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install x-cd-roast  then run it as root user the first time
[01:55] <Woosta> BKaj: if that was to me .. then yes, sort of like the'System Menu' in there .. but I want it outside there and Iwant more options on it :)
[01:56] <Hawkwind> LjL: He's thinking he needs to ./configure when he doesn't
[01:56] <LjL> the_hammer: you just need to set the parameters you'll need. IRC server, IRC network, bot nickname, bot owner, timezone, telnet port, etc. just go through the file and read the instructions
[01:56] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Did you do:  sudo apt-get install xcdroast ?
[01:57] <BKaj> Hawkwind:  E: Couldn't find package x-cd-roast
[01:57] <BKaj> weird
[01:57] <Hawkwind> BKaj: sudo apt-get install xcdroast
[01:58] <Hawkwind> Just like that ^^^^
[01:58] <the_hammer> ok Lj where do i add this eu.undernet.org
[01:58] <BKaj> Hawkwind:  E: Couldn't find package x-cd-roast
[01:58] <vinboy> Xorg is using more and more memory overtime
[01:58] <vinboy> it went to 500mb yesterday
[01:58] <LjL> the_hammer: to the "set servers" section
[01:58] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Listen to what I'm typing please
[01:58] <LjL> BKaj: xcdroast it is
[01:58] <Hawkwind> BKaj: sudo apt-get install xcdroast  <~~~EXACTLY LIKE THAT
[01:59] <BKaj> Iam , I tried that alread ys as you asked
[01:59] <Hawkwind> You put the - in it.  Leave those out
[02:00] <the_hammer> dam i wish i had a notepad that would let me save my txt
[02:00] <LjL> the_hammer: uh... that's exactly what gedit does
[02:00] <BKaj> nop[e , still won't launch
[02:00] <LjL> it's the closest to a notepad equivalent you can have
[02:01] <the_hammer> gonna grab it
[02:01] <BKaj> Hawkwind:   no root configuration file found or not readable !
[02:01] <cpk2> the_hammer: you should have either kate or gedit already
[02:01] <LjL> the_hammer: no. you HAVE it. and you're probably using it right now
[02:01] <Hawkwind> BKaj: sudo xcdroast
[02:01] <Hawkwind> BKaj: You have to run it as root user the first time
[02:01] <unix_infidel> lol, just use ed :)
[02:01] <cpk2> the_hammer: what are you using to edit the conf file right now?
[02:01] <LjL> the_hammer: just type "gedit", or go to the Apps menu and find the text editor (which is still the very same gedit) in Accessories
[02:02] <the_hammer> not sure i just open it selected display
[02:03] <LjL> the_hammer: "display" is probably "display", which implies it only displays and not edit.... i suppose.
[02:04] <the_hammer> it allows me to save changes when i open in display
[02:05] <the_hammer> i found geit btw
[02:05] <the_hammer> ty
[02:05] <the_hammer> ahh your right
[02:05] <the_hammer> just realized when went to open it again its gedit
[02:06] <the_hammer> thats why ima ble to add change/save
[02:06] <the_hammer> imagine that was using it and didnt even notice heh
[02:07] <the_hammer> ou.need.to.change.this:6667
[02:07] <the_hammer>   another.example.com:7000:password
[02:07] <the_hammer> is theta where the undernet goes?
[02:07] <centyx> ah
[02:07] <LjL> centyx: eggdrop bot
[02:07] <LjL> the_hammer: yes
[02:08] <the_hammer> so delete all there them 2 lines?
[02:08] <the_hammer> and then just put undernet server thgere?
[02:08] <the_hammer> there*
[02:08] <the_hammer> or just this part you.need.to.change.this:6667
[02:09] <LjL> yes
[02:09] <LjL> just list the servers you want, and remove anything else
[02:09] <the_hammer> yes what 1 line or both those lines
[02:09] <kbrooks> um
[02:10] <the_hammer> you.need.to.change.this:6667 <----put eu.undernet.org?
[02:10] <LjL> yes.
[02:10] <the_hammer> ok
[02:10] <kyle___> hey, for wine... how do I view the system tray in it or open a program this is in the ystem tray??? (Steam)
[02:11] <the_hammer> what about just below that another.example.com:7000:password <--just leave as is?
[02:13] <LjL> the_hammer: no. have *only* the servers you need listed.
[02:13] <the_hammer> ok
[02:14] <the_hammer> "I.didn't.edit.my.config.file.net" <--just put undernet here right?
[02:14] <nickibenassi> how do i instal amsn
[02:14] <unix_infidel> !amsn
[02:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about amsn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:14] <the_hammer> undernet.org acutally right?
[02:14] <unix_infidel> nickibenassi: apt-get install amsn
[02:14] <abattoir> !info amsn
[02:14] <unix_infidel> as root or do sudo.
[02:14] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[02:15] <LjL> the_hammer: "UnderNet" i'd say
[02:15] <the_hammer> ok
[02:15] <BKaj> use Kopete
[02:15] <nickibenassi> but amsn is so much better
[02:15] <nickibenassi> just how do i install it
[02:16] <abattoir> nickibenassi: do you have the 'universe' repository enabled/
[02:16] <abattoir> *?
[02:16] <cpk2> nickibenassi: you try apt-get?
[02:16] <nickibenassi> how do i enable that
[02:16] <Hawkwind> kyle___: Have you asked in #WineHQ since that's where the experts on wine are ?
[02:16] <abattoir> !universe
[02:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:16] <abattoir> nickibenassi: ^^^^
[02:17] <nickibenassi> i dont know wa ur talking about
[02:17] <unix_infidel> *sigh*
[02:17] <NDPTAL85> What app would I use to make daily full backups of my HD with on Kubuntu? Is one available in the list of packages?
[02:17] <abattoir> nickibenassi: visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:17] <Hawkwind> NDPTAL85: I use a bash script that just does tar'ing of directories
[02:17] <NDPTAL85> Would rsync do it? I've heard some folks mentioning it.
[02:18] <BKaj> nickibenassi: do you know of synaptic or adept pkg managers?
[02:18] <nickibenassi> and now wa
[02:18] <nickibenassi> yes
[02:18] <abattoir> nickibenassi: after you have enabled 'universe', you'd find amsn in the package list
[02:18] <BKaj> it's there
[02:18] <nickibenassi> ok
[02:18] <abattoir> nickibenassi: or, you can install w/ 'sudo apt-get install amsn', i'd recommend doing the former though
[02:18] <NDPTAL85> Hawkwind: Thanks but are there any apps that do it without needing you to write a script?
[02:18] <LjL> NDPTAL85: i think that K / System / Backup system (Keep)   would be it
[02:19] <Hawkwind> NDPTAL85: I'm sure there are.  Not sure what's apt-get'able though
[02:19] <kyle___> Hawkwind: no, I'll head there now, thanks
[02:19] <nickibenassi> how do i enable universe
[02:19] <LjL> !universe
[02:19] <Hawkwind> !universe
[02:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:19] <the_hammer> ok where do i find the bots nick name is that where it mentions ;amestbot?
[02:19] <abattoir> nickibenassi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu i've told you twice already
[02:19] <the_hammer> lamest*
[02:19] <foxtrot7> does anybody knows which package i need to install to run quake 2 ?
[02:20] <LjL> the_hammer: well, what does it say where it mentions that?
[02:20] <cpk2> foxtrot7: you try quake2 and quake2-data?
[02:20] <foxtrot7> yeah didn't work...
[02:20] <cpk2> what was wrong with it?
[02:20] <foxtrot7> well didnt found any package
[02:20] <foxtrot7> !
[02:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:21] <cpk2> you probably need either universe or multiverse enabled
[02:21] <abattoir> !info quake2
[02:21] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[02:21] <abattoir> foxtrot7: enable multiverse
[02:21] <cpk2> there you go
[02:21] <foxtrot7> how do i do that :-p ?
[02:21] <Hawkwind> !multiverse
[02:22] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:22] <abattoir> foxtrot7: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:22] <cpk2> open up adept and go to manage repositories and uncomment it out
[02:22] <abattoir> :P
[02:22] <posthuman> yes
[02:22] <posthuman> do what cpk said
[02:22] <posthuman> that's easiest
[02:23] <the_hammer> #set owner "^THE_HAMMER^" or ^THE_HAMMER^
[02:23] <Hawkwind> Easiest for some, not to everyone though :)
[02:23] <Hawkwind> Some perfer not to use a GUI package manager at all
[02:23] <cpk2> i prefer editing sources.list in the terminal =)
[02:23] <the_hammer> brb need more coffee
[02:23] <posthuman> that can be confusing for a new user though
[02:23] <posthuman> ;)
[02:23] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: Surely you aren't having that much problem editing that file ?  It tells you exactly what to do for most every line
[02:23] <cpk2> adept is nice for just looking throough packages though
[02:23] <posthuman> point + click = enable is simple enough
[02:23] <posthuman> heh
[02:23] <the_hammer> lol
[02:24] <the_hammer> sometimes ya need barackets others ya dont is only why i asked
[02:24] <LjL> the_hammer: did it have quotes originally?
[02:24] <Hawkwind> Makes you feel like you're still running windows if you do all that :P
[02:24] <the_hammer> had that prob before so tohught id get all that now rather then suffer later
[02:24] <the_hammer> yes it did
[02:24] <the_hammer> so remove those?
[02:25] <the_hammer> said something mr and mrs lamest
[02:25] <Hawkwind> If it had quotes, leave them
[02:25] <the_hammer> ok
[02:25] <Hawkwind> If it didn't, then don't have them
[02:25] <the_hammer> done deal
[02:25] <Hawkwind> Just edit the file as it tells you exactly what to put on each line
[02:27] <LjL> the_hammer: here. yeah leave the quotes, and leave all the formatting as is unless instructed otherwise in the file
[02:29] <posthuman> hmm
[02:30] <foxtrot7> cpk2 I get an error saying it has a broken dependency with libsvga1
[02:30] <posthuman> what's with azureus on kubuntu?  Seems buggy :o..missing tray icon (its just blank)... some buttons don't work, etc.
[02:30] <posthuman> anyone have this problem too?
[02:31] <cpk2> foxtrot7: do you have libsvga1?
[02:31] <foxtrot7> nope
[02:31] <abattoir> posthuman: i think it is a known problem, i had it w/ x86 too...
[02:31] <posthuman> ah ok
[02:31] <abattoir> posthuman: and i've heard lots of people complain about it here too...
[02:31] <posthuman> heh
[02:31] <foxtrot7> cpk2, it doesn t want to install for some reason !
[02:32] <posthuman> it works, as long as I shut azureus down properly..otherwise I get that popup and can't close it
[02:32] <abattoir> posthuman: dont know a solution though :P
[02:32] <posthuman> the tray icon is still blank, but no big deal
[02:32] <posthuman> thanks for the heads up
[02:32] <posthuman> :)
[02:33] <cpk2> foxtrot7: what doesnt want to install?
[02:34] <foxtrot7> libsvga1
[02:46] <SpAwN> hello..im having some issues with the nvidia driver. i have manualy installed them. they all worked fine untill i updated my system the other day.....i thought no big deal just re install the drivers....did that it worked....then i rebooted and the driver wasnt working...i had to manualy edit the xorg.conf to use the vesa driver to get to a x session
[02:47] <viper550> Wanna see my working mockup of what 6.10 should look like?
[02:47] <SpAwN> i then tried to sudo modprobe nvidia.....it returns no errors.....so i assumed it loaded ok....but when i reedit the xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver and restart x it doesnt work
[02:48] <ivis> Help plz how to fix package ?
[02:49] <ivis> Ob ubuntu 6.06
[02:49] <ivis> On
[02:50] <ivis> Please help
[02:53] <kosh> ivis: help with what?
[02:54] <ivis> Im install skype from this web http://www.quotedprintable.com/articles/2006/04/04/curing-skypes-ugliness-on-ubuntu
[02:54] <ivis> and
[02:54] <ivis> the package is broken
[02:54] <ivis> i need remove it
[02:54] <ivis> how to i do this?
[02:54] <ivis> Please help me
[02:55] <Generic> up
[02:55] <Generic> was it a .deb?
[02:55] <kosh> sudo dpkg -r <nameofskypepackage>
[02:55] <ivis> kosh how do i know what is name of the package?
[02:56] <kosh> what did you have to type to install it?
[02:56] <kosh> sorry my computer is too busy right now for me to load that url, it would screw up the tests I have running
[02:57] <ivis> 1 sec please
[02:57] <posthuman> why not just remove it graphically from synaptic?
[02:57] <ivis> wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[02:57] <ivis> and this
[02:57] <ivis> sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb
[02:58] <ivis> posthuman i newbie
[02:58] <posthuman> :)
[02:58] <ivis> i don't know how
[02:58] <abattoir> ivis: sudo dpkg -e skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb
[02:58] <ivis> :)
[02:58] <abattoir> ivis: run that command...
[02:58] <kosh> the package name won't be the same as the .deb file
[02:58] <ivis> i run but it nothing do
[02:58] <ivis> =\
[02:59] <posthuman> wouldnt it be: sudo dpkg -e skype_1.2.0.18-2
[02:59] <viper550> Would you like a preview of sorts to what Edgy is going to look like?
[02:59] <posthuman> i think
[02:59] <kosh> viper550: sure
[02:59] <viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas
[02:59] <posthuman> you can also open synaptic from your menu *its in there somewhere :P* ... and with the little search box type 'skype'
[02:59] <ivis> i got this when
[02:59] <abattoir> ivis: 'sudo apt-get remove skype' works for me
[02:59] <ivis> ivis@ivis-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -e skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb
[02:59] <ivis> ivis@ivis-desktop:~$
[02:59] <posthuman> then right click and request removal
[02:59] <posthuman> ah i think it removed then
[03:00] <eXCeSS> anyone? dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[03:00] <viper550> The last one is my mockup, and you can download the color scheme right now!
[03:00] <abattoir> viper550: werent you the person who wrote a wiki about Kubuntu firefox theme?
[03:00] <viper550> yes
[03:00] <ivis> abattoir bash: not: command not found
[03:00] <kosh> viper550: I will look in a few minutes when these tests finish
[03:00] <viper550> Yeah, I've seen people complaining about that
[03:00] <abattoir> ivis: 'sudo apt-get remove skype' w/o the quotes
[03:01] <abattoir> viper550: yes, the gtk-qt engine exists :)
[03:01] <ivis> abattoir i remove the quotes
[03:01] <abattoir> ivis: you executed 'not' ?
[03:01] <ivis> posthuman where is  synaptic ? ;P
[03:01] <ivis> abattoir whats mean executed?
[03:01] <posthuman> i'm honestly not positive because i dont use gnome/ubuntu
[03:01] <ivis> i bad know english
[03:01] <abattoir> ivis: if you are running Kubuntu, you'd be looking for adept.....
[03:02] <posthuman> he runs ubuntu
[03:02] <posthuman> I think
[03:02] <ivis> i runing on ubuntu 6.06
[03:02] <ivis> :)
[03:02] <abattoir> ivis: execute the command 'sudo apt-get remove skype' just like you did for the stuff at the website
[03:02] <posthuman> i dont know a lot about gnome, but try : gtksu synaptic
[03:02] <posthuman> in the terminal
[03:02] <posthuman> [18:02]  <abattoir> ivis: execute the command 'sudo apt-get remove skype' just like you did for the stuff at the website <--that should work too
[03:02] <abattoir> posthuman: i think it is gksudo ;)
[03:02] <posthuman> ah
[03:02] <posthuman> lol
[03:02] <the_hammer> !pastebit
[03:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebit - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:02] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[03:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:03] <posthuman> I don't know anything of gnome
[03:03] <OOD> you don't want to :P
[03:03] <posthuman> lol
[03:04] <posthuman> !synaptic
[03:04] <ivis> look this please http://paste.php.lv/4117
[03:04] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:04] <guillermo> hi!
[03:04] <ivis> yo
[03:04] <posthuman> hello!
[03:04] <posthuman> lol
[03:04] <ivis> posthuman please look a this http://paste.php.lv/4117
[03:04] <ivis> :P
[03:05] <abattoir> viper550: did you put up those KDM splash screens? or were those kwwii's ?
[03:05] <SpAwN> well if i manualy reinstaller the nvidia driver it works....there somthing acting funny..
[03:05] <guillermo> I wanted to ask if someone could help me to install de xine-extracodecs
[03:05] <viper550> Everything but the "Gothic Kubuntu" example at the end were kwwii's
[03:05] <guillermo> I've tried but I cannot get the packet
[03:05] <OOD> !mp3
[03:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:05] <abattoir> viper550: oh, ok :)
[03:05] <posthuman> ivis: something is currently using the package database
[03:05] <posthuman> do you have another program open thats using it?
[03:05] <posthuman> like synaptic (lol)
[03:06] <OOD> guillermo: check those links
[03:06] <ivis> im now downloading a package list
[03:06] <ivis> its a problem?
[03:06] <posthuman> ah well once all that is done it will work
[03:06] <posthuman> I think so
[03:06] <guillermo> ok
[03:06] <ivis> =\
[03:07] <ivis> linux is so dificult =\
[03:07] <viper550> Although, I did just finish work on a more purpleish version
[03:07] <OOD> guillermo: you'll need to get the universe and multiverse repositories open too
[03:07] <OOD> !repositories
[03:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:07] <posthuman> well, it's not very difficult...for me, mostly everything is simple... It can be difficult though..and if you're coming from windows I'm sure it's confusing
[03:07] <posthuman> have you tried automatix, ivis?
[03:07] <eXCeSS> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1272822#post1272822 help please
[03:07] <OOD> yea there's a learning curve
[03:07] <posthuman> automatix can install skype, I believe
[03:07] <posthuman> very easy
[03:07] <Generic> automatix is evil
[03:07] <ivis> what is this?
[03:08] <ivis> =o
[03:08] <Generic> I recommend Easyubuntu
[03:08] <posthuman> !automatix
[03:08] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:08] <ivis> where i can download automatix?
[03:08] <ivis> :)
[03:08] <ivis> rn
[03:08] <posthuman> i had a lot of problems with easyubuntu
[03:08] <posthuman> =\
[03:08] <ivis> tnx
[03:08] <Generic> Automatix makes uneccesary changes
[03:08] <Generic> It broke my system when i used it. Easyubuntu worked flawlessly
[03:08] <cpk2> yay i got my php board to work
[03:08] <ivis> what is easyubuntu?
[03:09] <Generic> like automatix, but safer (IMO)
[03:09] <Generic> !easyubuntu
[03:09] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:09] <posthuman> http://getautomatix.com/  <--there's a link to that as well
[03:09] <ivis> ohh
[03:09] <ivis> Thanks
[03:09] <ivis> :)
[03:09] <posthuman> easy ubuntu might work better for you
[03:09] <posthuman> like he said
[03:10] <ivis> my brain are gona explode for too much information today :D
[03:10] <posthuman> lol
[03:10] <Generic> if the link is down, let me know. I have a mirror on my server
[03:10] <posthuman> [18:08]  <Generic> It broke my system when i used it. Easyubuntu worked flawlessly  <---I couldn't seem to install anything on easyubuntu.  I can't remember the exact problem
[03:10] <posthuman> I may have downloaded the svn
[03:10] <posthuman> lol
[03:11] <Generic> Heh
[03:11] <Generic> did you run it sudo?
[03:11] <posthuman> I don't remember, was awhile ago.  It was some odd issue..I think it wouldn't LET me run it with sudo..but wouldn't work as a user either (never asked me for a password)
[03:12] <Woosta> Why on earth does the amarok package only have the xine engine? You have to rebuild it to get the other engines .. it's not worth distributing the other engines as packages surely?
[03:12] <posthuman> just wondering, but what's wrong with the xine engine?
[03:12] <posthuman> heh
[03:13] <posthuman> I suppose gstreamer you may want
[03:13] <Woosta> Playing CDs ..
[03:13] <ivis> =] 
[03:14] <OOD> Woosta: why download 2 engines when one is enough
[03:14] <OOD> you can just get gsteamer via apt-get and use it in amarok
[03:14] <posthuman> what does an engine have to do with playing cds?
[03:14] <posthuman> =\
[03:14] <Woosta> OOD: Sure .. but make it one that *IS* enough
[03:14] <posthuman> xine plays cd's
[03:14] <Woosta> OOD:No you can't .. you have to rebuild amarok
[03:14] <ivis> posthuman how much is time in your country ? :)
[03:14] <guillermo> sorry, but while trying to install libxine-extracodecs I encounter a problem
[03:15] <Woosta> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/FAQ#I.27ve_installed_GStreamer.2Fxine.2Fetc..2C_but_the_relevant_audio-engine_won.27t_show_up._What_gives.3F
[03:15] <posthuman> 6:15 pm here
[03:15] <posthuman> :P
[03:15] <guillermo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:15] <guillermo> is only available from another source
[03:15] <guillermo> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[03:15] <posthuman> I hate that error
[03:15] <LjL> Woosta: not if you use the standard amarok
[03:15] <posthuman> and never understand it
[03:15] <ivis> nice :)) in my 4:15 am
[03:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> posthuman: Yeah, I end up manually downloading and installing the package.
[03:15] <Woosta> posthuman: amarok uses the cdaudio:// protocl or some such  .. xine doesn't support it
[03:15] <OOD> guillermo: did you open the universe and multiverse repositories?
[03:16] <posthuman> so in amarok i can't play cds?
[03:16] <posthuman> i've never tried..
[03:16] <Woosta> LjL: what do you mean? I need some non-standard amarok .. ?
[03:16] <Woosta> posthuman: not with the xine engine
[03:16] <guillermo> OOD: I think not, I'm not very familiar to linux yet :-/
[03:16] <posthuman> well, i see your problem then
[03:16] <OOD> !repositories
[03:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:17] <OOD> guillermo: check that
[03:17] <LjL> Woosta: oh no nevermind. the gstreamer engine is indeed missing -- i was thinking about the fact that if you use amarok 1.4 from the kubuntu.org repos, there is no amarok-arts engine, while if you use the dapper one, there is -- but still no gstreamer
[03:17] <guillermo> ok
[03:17] <Woosta> The real question is: why does the repository contain the other engines if you have to REBUILD amarok to use them?
[03:17] <posthuman> you could use kaffiene for cd's, to avoid trouble..if you want. Heh.
[03:17] <posthuman> and for that, I have no idea.
[03:17] <OOD> if you want to use totem maybe?
[03:18] <OOD> or another app that uses gstreamer by default?
[03:18] <kosh> the gstreamer engine for amarok was killed from what I understand because of problems
[03:18] <Woosta> package name: amarok-arts .... ?
[03:18] <posthuman> this is a long shot..and i don't know much about this command..but
[03:18] <posthuman> if you install the engines
[03:18] <posthuman> and dpkg-reconfigure amarok
[03:18] <posthuman> would that work?
[03:18] <Woosta> I install THAT a it doesnt' work
[03:18] <kosh> OOD: why would it matter if amarok is using xine and something else is using gstreamer?
[03:18] <posthuman> xine can't play cds in amarok
[03:18] <ivis> 
[03:18] <kosh> OOD: on dapper alsa will use the dmix stuff if your sound card does not support multiopen so that should not be an issue
[03:19] <OOD> kosh: umm i was responding to Woosta's question
[03:19] <ivis> 
[03:19] <kosh> hmm playing cds, I remember doing that a long time ago :)
[03:19] <posthuman> me niether
[03:19] <posthuman> lol
[03:19] <ivis> 
[03:19] <OOD> about why the repository contains gsteamer
[03:19] <kosh> now I just encode them first
[03:20] <ivis> !Gentoo
[03:20] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[03:20] <ivis> =\
[03:20] <ivis> !xmms
[03:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:20] <ivis> !ubuntu
[03:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:20] <posthuman> wait a minute
[03:20] <posthuman> woosta
[03:20] <Woosta> ?
[03:20] <ivis> !Archlinux
[03:20] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[03:20] <posthuman> I just popped a cd in, using the xine engine
[03:21] <posthuman> and cd's play fine
[03:21] <posthuman> .
[03:21] <Woosta> Not via amarok though
[03:21] <posthuman> yes
[03:21] <ivis> !Gimp
[03:21] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[03:21] <posthuman> i'm playing it in amarok
[03:21] <posthuman> with xine
[03:21] <Woosta> Erm .. doesn't work for me and docs say it doesn't work
[03:21] <posthuman> well..that's rather odd
[03:21] <posthuman> are you using the newest amarok?
[03:21] <Woosta> version in the repos
[03:22] <ivis> KDE is beter than Gnome?
[03:22] <OOD> that's not the newest version
[03:22] <posthuman> it says cdda:/1 for filename
[03:22] <posthuman> and all plays well
[03:22] <posthuman> etc
[03:22] <tony_> could someone tell me if i need sendmail or something for a php mailer?
[03:22] <OOD> newest is 1.4.1
[03:22] <posthuman> yes you need the newest
[03:22] <posthuman> kde > gnome
[03:22] <posthuman> by far in my opinion
[03:22] <Woosta> Still begs the qustion: why have packges for the other engines :)
[03:22] <ivis> tony u need senmail for mysql
[03:22] <ivis> i thnik
[03:22] <ivis> :D
[03:23] <kosh> umm mysql is a database server, sendmail is a mail daemon
[03:23] <Woosta> So .. is there a package for the latest amarok anywhere?
[03:23] <posthuman> yes
[03:23] <posthuman> one moment
[03:23] <ivis> kosh im newbie sory :D
[03:23] <kosh> tony_: what your php mailer needs should be listed in its requirements it probably can use any mail sender
[03:23] <Viper550> Hi, I'm back, and I did do some changes to my Edgy design
[03:23] <kosh> tony_: so you could probably use postfix, qmail, sendmail etc
[03:23] <ivis> Im know only windows for now
[03:23] <ivis> :)
[03:23] <posthuman> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main
[03:23] <posthuman> ;)
[03:24] <kosh> ivis: then offering advice is not a good idea :)
[03:24] <tony_> ok, thanks. either they have too little documentation or hours worth of reading
[03:24] <Viper550> Excuse me
[03:24] <ivis> i know php.ini sendmail :D
[03:24] <Viper550> I did do some changes just right now to my Edgy Eft theme for Kubuntu that I think you'll love better
[03:25] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas
[03:25] <posthuman> viper: i like it
[03:25] <posthuman> looks good
[03:25] <tony_> any recommended mailers you guys know of that's simple and only needs php?
[03:25] <Viper550> Way nicer than my older Gothic Purple one?
[03:26] <kye> Night guys
[03:27] <ironfroggy> if i install by resizing an nfts partition, can i later increase the size of the new partition?
[03:27] <abattoir> Viper550: are you coordinating w/ kwwii?
[03:28] <Viper550> Not exactly, I changed it to Purple when I heard that KDE and Kubuntu were shifting that direction
[03:28] <abattoir> Viper550: if you are interested in Kubuntu artwork, i'd suggest contacting him....
[03:28] <posthuman> :P
[03:29] <abattoir> posthuman: its a long wait :(
[03:29] <OOD> yea, im looking forward to that
[03:29] <posthuman> I know
[03:29] <posthuman> =(
[03:29] <Viper550> We're on the same mailing list!
[03:29] <guillermo> OOD, ubotu: cool, it worked fine! Thnx
[03:30] <OOD> guillermo: no problem :), and ubotu is a channel bot :P
[03:30] <abattoir> Viper550: the wallpaper looks beautiful btw :)
[03:30] <the_hammer> where did LjL go?
[03:30] <the_hammer> !seen LjL
[03:30] <ubotu> I last saw LjL (n=ljl@62-101-126-215.ip.fastwebnet.it) 4m ago, quiting: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
[03:30] <the_hammer> darn it
[03:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=KUB1.png <--- OMG, that's amazing. :)
[03:31] <the_hammer> OOD ya know bout eggdrops?
[03:31] <Woosta> How do I start synaptic in superuser mode? sudo and it starts, but I can't install anything
[03:31] <Viper550> Thanks, it's a modification of this one: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41599
[03:31] <OOD> the_hammer: no, haven't used it
[03:31] <the_hammer> darn
[03:31] <the_hammer> darn darn darn it
[03:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Woosta: 'kdesu synaptic'
[03:32] <Woosta> ahh .. thanks
[03:32] <OOD> modification? that's some amazing modification, if you can even call it that
[03:32] <the_hammer> i was gonna do desktop share with LjL to see if he could look at my confgi and help me out a bit but my darn router heh so i unplugged it and come back and he gone
[03:32] <abattoir> Viper550: i'm just curious, you changed the hues in gimp?
[03:32] <Viper550> No, gThumb
[03:32] <the_hammer> anyone else here know eggdrops??
[03:32] <abattoir> oh, ok
[03:33] <Viper550> gThumb is perfect for simple hue shifts like that
[03:33] <Woosta> Bah, same errors
[03:33] <the_hammer> cpk2 u ehre?
[03:33] <the_hammer> here*
[03:33] <OOD> the_hammer: what are you trying to do now?
[03:33] <the_hammer> well to my knowledge my config file is fine but it says its not when i try to run the bot
[03:33] <Woosta> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[03:33] <Woosta> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[03:34] <posthuman> ah broken directory
[03:34] <posthuman> err packages
[03:34] <posthuman> hmm
[03:34] <posthuman> do you have the kde repo added as well?
[03:34] <posthuman> that may be needed
[03:34] <the_hammer> so trying to see if i can get someone to see desktop share and see what i did wrong
[03:34] <Woosta> I added repo for amarok 1.4 .. then forced version to use that
[03:35] <Woosta> When I fix broken, it removes amarok1.4
[03:35] <the_hammer> Woosta u know eggdrops?
[03:35] <Woosta> erm .. no
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Woosta: Fix it, and then run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> It should install Amarok 1.4
[03:35] <the_hammer> anyone here know eggdrops?
[03:35] <the_hammer> im extreamly close to getting mine done
[03:36] <OOD> it's an irc bot
[03:36] <the_hammer> added the net added the server added the nicks both owner/bots
[03:36] <Woosta> the_hammer: surely there's an #eggdrop channl?>
[03:36] <the_hammer> ill try there i was there earlyer and they laughed at me
[03:37] <BKaj> why fool with bots when you can talk to real ppl , like us :)
[03:37] <Woosta> LOL .. If I try to remove amarok, it wants to remove kubuntu desktop too .. who made this mess?
[03:37] <the_hammer> just to learn/try something new
[03:37] <eXCeSS> rofl
[03:37] <OOD> Woosta: that's just a meta package
[03:37] <OOD> it's 52k in size
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Woosta: Try running 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[03:37] <Woosta> OOD: so I can safely remove it?
[03:38] <OOD> yes
[03:38] <OOD> nvm, it's 40k :P
[03:38] <the_hammer> baaa no ones answering me there
[03:38] <Viper550> So, think my desktop setup should be the default on Edgy Eft?
[03:38] <cpk2> the_hammer: use pastebin to paste you config
[03:38] <SpAwN> why would i have to manualy reinstall the nvidia driver everytime i reboot?.....
[03:39] <SpAwN> i cant even just modprobe nvidia
[03:39] <OOD> SpAwN: having nvidia driver problems again?
[03:39] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[03:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:40] <SpAwN> well there was asome updates the otherday.......then the 1st time i rebooted was today
[03:40] <SpAwN> b4 alli did was manualy install the driver then it would auto load at the boot
[03:40] <SpAwN> now it doesnt....
[03:40] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: If you did an update then the first time you reboot you have to reinstall the drivers
[03:40] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18322
[03:40] <SpAwN> i have to either edit the xorg.conf to use vesa....or reinstall the driver.
[03:41] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Why not just use the stuff that comes with Ubuntu pre-packaged ?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> Ewwwwww @ ATI stuff
[03:41] <OOD> that probably because you upgraded the kernel
[03:41] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, yea but ive reinstaled the driver 3 times.....rebooted 2 times
[03:41] <OOD> you'll have to reinstall the kernel module
[03:41] <SpAwN> OOD, the officail nvida driver used to do that
[03:41] <SpAwN> ...it did it for me last time
[03:41] <OOD> XD, man drop the 'official' thing
[03:42] <the_hammer> well ill be back yet again hooking router back up
[03:42] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Why on earth are you reinstalling the drivers that many times and rebooting ?
[03:42] <Hawkwind> Hey there nixternal
[03:43] <nixternal> helloooooo!!!!
[03:43] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, i wa strying to get a game to work....it caused somthing to go wrong and automaticly rebooted itself
[03:43] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, then i reinstalled the drivers.....tested to see if they auto loaded....they didnt
[03:43] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: You probably need to just add something to your /etc/modules file
[03:44] <SpAwN> OOD, realy man the ones in the ubuntu repo give me 13500 fps MAX......the "official" ones give me well over 14300 fps
[03:44] <ivis> !slax
[03:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about slax - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:44] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, im hoping
[03:44] <ryanakca> hmmm... since the kernel upgrade I can't hold backspace and have it backspace, I need to repetedly push it... I also can't push ->, <-  (arrow keys) and have the cursor move... I need to hit it repeatedly..., and my numlock, capslock & scroll lock lights don't work...   And this is all in xorg...
[03:44] <OOD> glxgears is a bad benchmarking tool
[03:44] <OOD> don't depend on it too much
[03:44] <SpAwN> OOD, i dont
[03:45] <kosh> heh nvidia even has in their driver docs about not using it as a benchmark because it is too simple
[03:45] <kosh> the benchmark is so simple it does not execise the cards in a realistic way
[03:45] <ryanakca> SpAwN: what the *****.... with an nvidia radeon 9200 SE... I get 300fps... tops
[03:45] <SpAwN> OOD, another example i can give is glmatrix screen saver displaying fps.....i get around 32 with repos ones and around 40-42 with the officail
[03:45] <SpAwN> ryanakca, i have a very nice vid card
[03:45] <OOD> nvidia radeon?
[03:46] <SpAwN> ryanakca, nvidia geforce 7800 GT OC from bfgtech
[03:46] <OOD> where the hell did you get such a hybrid card?
[03:46] <ryanakca> SpAwN: theres a catch... it's macde by nvidia
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> rofl
[03:46] <Woosta> FFS .. this whole thing is just TOO screwy .. so I add the amarok repos .. but there's about a billion dependencies that just *AREN'T AVAILABLE*
[03:46] <SpAwN> LOL nvida raedon...i didnt catch that
[03:46] <ryanakca> OOD: I nicked it off my mom's computer... she doesn't use it anymore... and hey, it's better than some of the no-name cards and the i810 I used to use :)
[03:47] <SpAwN> Hawkwind,  u use nvidia correct?......what line to u have in the /etc/modules file?....i have no nvdia anything in mine
[03:47] <OOD> ryanakca: i am sad to inform you that no such card exists
[03:47] <the_hammer> back
[03:47] <SpAwN> ryanakca, raedon is made by ati....... ati is nvidias arch nemesis
[03:47] <the_hammer> anyone know eggdrops here i gotta bin for ya to look at if ya can help me out
[03:48] <ryanakca> OOD... ooops... my bad :)
[03:48] <OOD> lol
[03:48] <ryanakca> rofl
[03:48] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18322
[03:48] <SpAwN> OOD, do u use nvidia?
[03:48] <ryanakca> hey... it's late, I'm tired :)
[03:48] <OOD> SpAwN: yea i have an FX
[03:49] <SpAwN> OOD, could u pastebin your /etc/modules for me to look at please?
[03:49] <SpAwN> i have no idea what to put in mine...im assuming a line like "nvidia"
[03:49] <OOD> all i have is lp and psmouse listed
[03:49] <OOD> no reference to nvidia whatsoever
[03:50] <SpAwN> OOD, same here
[03:50] <ryanakca> well... ati is crap... learned that from experience... :)
[03:50] <OOD> ryanakca: ati is just as good as ati, the X1900XTX is the best card out atm
[03:50] <BKaj> hey hey...works for me
[03:50] <SpAwN> damn....
[03:50] <SpAwN> personaly i haet  ati
[03:50] <SpAwN> *hate
[03:50] <OOD> but their linux support is beyond crap
[03:50] <ryanakca> yes, ati is as good as ati, because they are ati :)
[03:51] <OOD> XD
[03:51] <OOD> meant nvidia
[03:51] <OOD> lol
[03:51] <SpAwN> hehe
[03:51] <ryanakca> lol
[03:51] <BKaj> gamerz shouldn't be in here
[03:51] <BKaj> waste of time
[03:51] <ryanakca> BKaj: ???
[03:52] <SpAwN> BKaj, yea what?
[03:52] <posthuman> I play a lot of games with cedega
[03:52] <posthuman> no problems ;)
[03:52] <ryanakca> BKaj: what are you talking about?
[03:52] <cpk2> anyone able to help me out with getting swat to work?
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> I play a lot of...tetris. :)
[03:52] <cpk2> i cant access localhost:901
[03:52] <BKaj> just kidding
[03:52] <ivis> Linux Rocks
[03:52] <kosh> OOD the ati drivers are not as good as the nvidia ones, if you want to run two cards in a quad head setup and have opengl accel across all 4 screens and have the screens seamless then nvidia is the only option right now
[03:53] <OOD> kosh: i said ati linux support sucks
[03:53] <BKaj> needed a reaction, was getting boring in here
[03:53] <kosh> OOD I have tried to play with the ati driver to get it to do that and it just has not worked
[03:53] <OOD> i can quote myself if you want
[03:53] <kosh> OOD that kind of feature doesn't work that well under windows either on the ati cards
[03:54] <SpAwN> where can i look to see where things are loaded at boot...i wanna find out why the driver isnt being loaded by defalut
[03:54] <kosh> OOD the ati driver just seems to cover the most general case but misses some massive higher end corner cases the the nvidia drivers handle even under windows
[03:54] <SpAwN> *default
[03:55] <Woosta> *sob* .. I added the wrong friggin repos .. now I've added the kubuntu-specific repos, it's working just fine
[03:55] <Woosta> Gah
[03:55] <cpk2> nevermind finally found a post with a fix that worked
[03:56] <OOD> kosh: there's a reason i have an nvidia card ;), but ATi and nVidia are very very clo\se
[03:56] <Woosta> Oh yay. Now it's crashed
[03:56] <kosh> I currently have ati cards but my next system will be dual 7950s
[03:57] <OOD> adept?
[03:57] <OOD> Woosta, adept crashed?
[03:57] <Woosta> Nah, amarok 1.4 .. though on second try it worked
[03:57] <OOD> ah
[03:57] <OOD> kosh: you're getting quad-sli?
[03:58] <kosh> well under linux I will be using it for quad head but under windows it will be setup for quad sli for games
[03:58] <OOD> waste of money in my opinion, DX10 hardware is coming this year
[03:59] <kosh> then I will replace it sometime after that, however right now there is no better option for a good quad head setup and I need to repalce my current setup in the next month
[04:00] <OOD> what do you do? quad-screen setup is pretty expensive stuff :)
[04:01] <kosh> write database software, but more screen realestate means stuff gets done faster
[04:01] <the_hammer> !pastebit
[04:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebit - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:01] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[04:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:02] <Woosta> Mmmok .. so it's playing audio cds .. but there's no sound... kmix is up ..
[04:03] <OOD> Woosta: you have cd muted?
[04:05] <Woosta> Just checked alsamixer and unmuted everything .. now amarok complains that xine can't find any output drivers
[04:06] <the_hammer> !PASTEBIN
[04:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:08] <cps1966> new kernel crashes machine already
[04:08] <the_hammer> can someone grab my hostname and ip info for me?
[04:09] <the_hammer> and msg me with it?
[04:10] <Woosta> www.whats-my-ip.org iirc
[04:12] <SpAwN> anyone know where i can check to see where/what is loaded during boot....i want to see if anything related to nvidia is even being loaded....
[04:13] <cps1966> dmesg should tell you
[04:14] <Woosta> OK, so I'm getting no sound .. how do I work out why?
[04:14] <cps1966> lsmod and see if module is loaded for sound card
[04:15] <Woosta> quite a few .. mmm .. oss
[04:15] <cps1966> no alsa
[04:16] <the_hammer> someone tell me how toi get my ip and host name?
[04:16] <the_hammer> i think my host name is wp.shawcable.net right?
[04:16] <Woosta> snd_mixer_oss          18688  1 snd_pcm_oss
[04:16] <Woosta> many lines .. including that one
[04:17] <cps1966> http://whatismyipaddress.com/
[04:17] <cps1966> so you have off the wall sound card
[04:18] <Woosta> intel 7.1
[04:18] <the_hammer> how do i do host
[04:19] <the_hammer> pretty sure this is it here wp.shawcable.net?
[04:19] <the_hammer> i just have to set those to the bot and then figger out how to get central time zone short form letters
[04:19] <cps1966> http://www.findmyhost.com/
[04:20] <the_hammer> that didnt help me
[04:21] <the_hammer> dam im close to having the bot done
[04:21] <SpAwN> does anyone know what file tells my computer to load the nvidia driver at boot time?
[04:21] <the_hammer> need my darn host heh
[04:21] <SpAwN> the_hammer, are u trying to use a eggdrop??
[04:21] <cps1966> SpAwN:  did you enable it
[04:22] <SpAwN> cps1966, enable it how?
[04:22] <SpAwN> cps1966, i manualy installed it....everytime ive done this b4,,,it had auto loaded when i boot
[04:22] <Woosta> SpAwN: either /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/modules at a guess
[04:22] <cps1966> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:23] <SpAwN> Woosta, xorg.conf uses nvdia... oog said he had nothing about nvidia in his /etc/modules
[04:23] <the_hammer> yeah
[04:23] <the_hammer> kinda
[04:23] <cps1966> SpAwN:  what wrong with ubuntus nvidia module
[04:23] <the_hammer> just trying to program it and im seeing through my pastebin my mistakes
[04:23] <the_hammer> so correcting them
[04:23] <SpAwN> cps1966, i get better performance with the official one
[04:23] <the_hammer> i missed my ip and host
[04:23] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: It's not going to be that noticable though
[04:24] <the_hammer> got the ip now need my host
[04:24] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: You really should make life easier on yourself and just use the pre-packaged Ubuntu stuff
[04:24] <SpAwN> the_hammer, u dont need to edit EVERYTHING in the eggdrop.conf
[04:24] <the_hammer> wich im sure is wp.shawcable.net
[04:24] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: I used to install from nvidia.com as well.  But Ubuntu makes it too simple
[04:24] <the_hammer> well it wont load
[04:24] <the_hammer> keeps pointin to my config file
[04:24] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, well i would but the colors are all off in my games when i used the ubuntu one too
[04:25] <SpAwN> the_hammer, ill save u time....open the eggdrop.conf file and look for the wor "die" there are 2 lines u need to edit out.....its to trick ppl from not editing the eggdrops b4 starting them
[04:25] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Seems noone else has that issue.  I'd seriously give up on what you're trying to do and take the easy way
[04:26] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, well i play alot of enemy territory...which i noticed a decent difference in colors/performance
[04:26] <cps1966> then your card is going bad
[04:26] <SpAwN> cps1966, noep.....checked it and cleaned it like 2 weeks ago
[04:27] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Then that's NOT a driver issue.  That's a card issue
[04:27] <SpAwN> cps1966, and its a new card...less then 6 mo old
[04:27] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, how so.......i use officail driver and have no problems with games
[04:27] <SpAwN> i dont use themm....i do
[04:27] <cps1966> SpAwN:  that dont make it good
[04:27] <SpAwN> that doesnt suggest hardware issue to me
[04:28] <Woosta> Does *anyone* know anything about sound?
[04:28] <cps1966> the two drivers are the same
[04:28] <SpAwN> ive been told 3 milion times in this chan to use the ubuntu ones........but im telling you from MY experiences that i get better performance from the official ones
[04:28] <fiyawerx> Woosta: whats the prob?
[04:28] <Woosta> I've got none :)
[04:29] <Woosta> OSS modules in lsmod
[04:29] <Woosta> Nothing else happening
[04:29] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18326
[04:29] <Woosta> Normaly it just works .. this computer .. nada
[04:29] <SpAwN> ive tried both driver in diff situations/games/setups....and the officail ones come out on top everytime.......again i am telling from MY expericnces
[04:29] <fiyawerx> i think crimsun may be the one you want for that one
[04:30] <the_hammer> spawn check out that bin i posted
[04:30] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Yet you can't get the official drivers to work now.  I think that should tell you something
[04:30] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Or atleast you can't get them to stay loaded
[04:31] <SpAwN> the_hammer, i will glance at it...i realy dont have time to trouble shoot a eggdrop for u...they are very well documented
[04:31] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, they work now...they just wont load....
[04:31] <SpAwN> *load at boot time
[04:31] <the_hammer> im extreamly close to being done
[04:31] <the_hammer> im just over looking something i just know it
[04:31] <SpAwN> die.
[04:31] <SpAwN> put # b4 die
[04:31] <cpk2> the_hammer: try doing undernet.org
[04:31] <cps1966> there is no module.preload inhere
[04:32] <SpAwN> other then that....it would require me to go over your whole eggdrop.conf...whcih is to long
[04:32] <cpk2> and i think the first line needs to be uncommented
[04:33] <the_hammer> ok did that
[04:34] <cps1966> read the damn readme
[04:34] <cpk2> ^^ that too
[04:34] <the_hammer> what first line?
[04:34] <cps1966> thats why noone learns here
[04:35] <justheatingup> hi
[04:35] <Hawkwind> This whole eggdrop thing really has nothing to do with Kubuntu.  Why it continues to be discussed here is beyond me
[04:35] <justheatingup> i need some help
[04:35] <Hawkwind> It really should be taken somewhere else, like #Kubuntu-OffTopic or something since you obvsiously can't read the file and understand it
[04:35] <justheatingup> i have an issue with my laptop
[04:35] <cpk2> normally the first line is the one labelled 001
[04:35] <Hawkwind> It takes 5 minutes to setup an eggdrop, yet you've been doing this for 4+ hours
[04:35] <dan_> whats up
[04:35] <shawn_> hello konqueror seems to believe I'm in the UK instead of canada it seems so it is bringing me to the www.google.co.uk when i use the google search box instead of .ca
[04:36] <dan_> thats cool
[04:36] <dan_> lol
[04:36] <justheatingup> dan:  if i walk away for 5 minutes
[04:36] <the_hammer> ya well im also mentally challanged
[04:36] <Woosta> I'd say that's google using GeoIP ..
[04:36] <justheatingup> i come back to a logon screen
[04:36] <dan_> crazy
[04:36] <dan_> sorry man i'm still learning all this shit too
[04:37] <Hawkwind> dan_: Easy on the language please
[04:37] <the_hammer> #! /home/oem/eggdrop <--this is 1st line
[04:37] <dan_> oh sorry
[04:37] <justheatingup> yeah im a neub too
[04:37] <shawn_> firefox brings me to .ca like it should
[04:37] <the_hammer> is that the 1st line ya talkin about to leave blank?
[04:37] <justheatingup> i just don't quite understand why it kicks me out
[04:37] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: Seriously, please take the eggdrop somewhere else so that it's not interfering with the people that need help with Kubuntu
[04:37] <the_hammer> ok
[04:38] <justheatingup> hawkwind i could us some of that help ;)
[04:38] <Hawkwind> LOL he didn't have to leave here all together
[04:38] <dan_> hey does anyone know if there is a way to uninstall programs after you've installed them
[04:38] <dan_> and i dont mean debian packages
[04:38] <Hawkwind> dan_: apt-get remove ?
[04:38] <dan_> no
[04:38] <Hawkwind> dan_: What kind of packages ?
[04:38] <cps1966> maybe he went to #eggdrop
[04:38] <cpk2> delete them
[04:38] <dan_> i'm not just gonna delete them
[04:38] <shawn_> make uninstall doesn't that work sometimes
[04:38] <SpAwN> dan_, if u installed from source u can use make uninstall
[04:38] <Hawkwind> cps1966: That wouldn't be obvious would it ?
[04:38] <justheatingup> hawk do you know why I can't leave my laptop for more than 5 minutes
[04:38] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Not always
[04:38] <dan_> oh ok
[04:39] <dan_> i'll try that
[04:39] <dan_> thanx
[04:39] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, most the time u can.....
[04:39] <dan_> well i'll try it for now
[04:39] <dan_> if it doesnt work, i'll be back
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Majority of the time things don't have a make uninstall script
[04:39] <SpAwN> worth telling him to try it.
[04:39] <ironfroggy> is it possible to tell if a machine has additional IDE connectors internally without looking?
[04:39] <Hawkwind> dan_: If it doesn't work, then just delete the directories/files it made
[04:39] <kosh> check the specs online for the machine
[04:39] <cpk2> if you know the model of the motherboard
[04:39] <justheatingup> spawn how about you why do i get a login screen after a few minutes?
[04:39] <cpk2> or if you buy a pci card with ide connectors
[04:40] <dan_> just deleting the dirs wont hurt anything?
[04:40] <Hawkwind> justheatingup: Is the system overheating maybe ?
[04:40] <cps1966> if there not shared
[04:40] <SpAwN> justheatingup, no clue i dont have kubuntu on a laptop..its gotta be a power saver or somtiing
[04:40] <dan_> so i'm going to have to search my whole hard drive to find all the files is what you are saying hawkwind
[04:40] <Hawkwind> justheatingup: Have you run memtest to see if your RAM is bad ?  Let it run for as long as possible.  12 - 16 hours preferably
[04:40] <justheatingup> its fine if i'm on it
[04:41] <Hawkwind> dan_: Yep.  That's why you should NOT compile things on a deb based system
[04:41] <dan_> lol
[04:41] <justheatingup> if i walk away, the screen goes black and back to the logon screen
[04:41] <dan_> well that sucks but whatever
[04:41] <dan_> i dont mind
[04:41] <dan_> thank you very much
[04:41] <dan_> cya
[04:41] <kosh> Hawkwind: actually you should not compile stuff unless you know what you are doing for any system
[04:42] <dan_> hey i know what i'm doing half way
[04:42] <kosh> Hawkwind: I compile software all the time on my debian based systems
[04:42] <cps1966> kosh:  he knows what hes doing
[04:42] <justheatingup> can anyone  point me in a better direction
[04:42] <dan_> i can install and compile and all that good stuff
[04:42] <kosh> dan_: then why is the stuff spread all over?
[04:42] <kosh> dan_: why is it hard to remove?
[04:42] <dan_> come on man i'm still learning, you dont have to be a jerk
[04:43] <Hawkwind> kosh: True.  And by the sounds of it, he doesn't know what he's doing :P
[04:43] <cps1966> make uninstall is very simple
[04:43] <ironfroggy> is it possible to connect a laptop harddrive to a desktop?
[04:43] <kosh> dan_: I am not trying to be a jerk
[04:43] <justheatingup> dan what's your issue?
[04:43] <justheatingup> i'm coming from gentoo
[04:43] <cps1966> ironfroggy:  if you have adaptor like i have
[04:44] <dan_> well i'm just looking for answers and this guy is making me seem like an idiot
[04:44] <justheatingup> so compile is all i ever did ;)
[04:44] <dan_> man i must be hungry
[04:44] <kosh> dan_: I am trying to point out that there is more to compiling software and hooking it into any system then just being able to type the compile commands
[04:44] <kosh> dan_: none of this stuff is easy and not knowing how to do it correctly is not a problem so long as you are aware of your own skills
[04:44] <justheatingup> dan: what were you compiling?
[04:44] <dan_> ok well thank you for the insight
[04:45] <ironfroggy> cps1966: is it completely necessary? i mean, it seems to fit an IDE ribbon..
[04:45] <dan_> i know its not easy thats why i'm here
[04:45] <ironfroggy> cps1966: im just trying to find out of its any good, before i try to open up my laptop.
[04:45] <cps1966> what laptop drive that fits 40 pin connector
[04:46] <cps1966> i doubt that
[04:46] <ironfroggy> cps1966: umm the one in my hand? its just an ATA/IDE harddrive, but small.
[04:46] <dan_> well thanx anyways i'll come back when i know what i'm talking about
[04:46] <cps1966> you better take a closert look
[04:46] <ironfroggy> cps1966: at what, exactly?
[04:46] <justheatingup> dan_
[04:46] <ironfroggy> i mean, thats what it is.
[04:46] <ironfroggy> it has a label saying so and everything.
[04:47] <justheatingup> don't let it get to you
[04:47] <cps1966> the pins are very close and more than forty
[04:47] <justheatingup> I can offer some support if you are compiling
[04:47] <ironfroggy> cps1966: not on this. like i said: ATA/IDE
[04:47] <JRH3K5> You know what's frustrating?
[04:47] <dan_> well dude, i'm not just some kid that doesnt know what i'm talking about
[04:47] <JRH3K5> Spending 4 days setting up a streaming server, only to find that your work has blocked streams.
[04:47] <justheatingup> don_: i hear yeah
[04:47] <JRH3K5> >:(
[04:47] <dan_> i've had a computer for 20 years
[04:47] <JRH3K5> The same computer?
[04:47] <kosh> dan_: you are taking what I said far too personally
[04:47] <justheatingup> Dan: what seems to be the issue?
[04:47] <cps1966> dan_:  22 here
[04:48] <dan_> yeah i installed linux on a commodore 64
[04:48] <dan_> ok i'm sorry kosh
[04:48] <JRH3K5> Hardcore.
[04:48] <dan_> just a little uptight today
[04:48] <dan_> i didnt really install linux on a commodore, that was a joke
[04:48] <kosh> dan_: look at the package checkinstall
[04:48] <dan_> ok
[04:48] <JRH3K5> I know that.
[04:48] <JRH3K5> Now.
[04:48] <dan_> oh lol
[04:48] <cpk2> justheatingup: he wanted a way to install programs he compiled other than just deleting the dirs
[04:48] <ironfroggy> ok so how about finding out if my laptop has room for a second harddrive in it before i actually open it up? is there anything i can query to find out?
[04:49] <cpk2> err uninstall*
[04:49] <kosh> I wonder if there are any laptops that have room for a second drive
[04:49] <JRH3K5> ironfroggy - your manufacturer's website should have documentation
[04:49] <dan_> dude i wouldnt open my laptop
[04:49] <cpk2> kosh: the really big ones
[04:49] <kosh> heh I would open a laptop up
[04:49] <kosh> and have
[04:49] <JRH3K5> There's probably at least one.
[04:49] <dan_> not if you were him
[04:49] <cps1966> so have i
[04:49] <cpk2> i opened mine...
[04:49] <ironfroggy> kosh: acer has a new laptop that comes standard with 2 disk RAID.
[04:49] <kosh> it is not any worse then opening up a desktop computer
[04:50] <dan_> i guess i've never had one so i dont know
[04:50] <JRH3K5> ironfroggy:  not a common feature, though.
[04:50] <JRH3K5> But contact your manufacturer.
[04:50] <ironfroggy> of course not
[04:50] <kosh> ironfroggy: my point is that laptops that can support more then one hard drive probably make up less then .001% of laptops
[04:50] <JRH3K5> IF your laptop has the capability, they should be able to direct you to an authorized PC store to do the work for you
[04:51] <dan_> you know i have to say i'm glad there are more people like you guys
[04:51] <JRH3K5> Comedic relief?
[04:51] <ironfroggy> JRH3K5: not paying someone else to toss in a new harddrive for me
[04:51] <dan_> most of the people nowadays own a computer and think they know everything
[04:51] <JRH3K5> Or actual helpful assistance?
[04:51] <derekS> where can i find the min specs for xubuntu
[04:51] <dan_> no really
[04:51] <dan_> i'm serious
[04:52] <JRH3K5> ironfroggy:  okay.  I wasn't sure of what your level of skills were.  I was erring on the side of caution.
[04:52] <dan_> i'm from the old school generation, back when 20 mb hard drive was huge
[04:52] <dan_> nobody cared then
[04:52] <JRH3K5> I played Wheel of Fortune on a Commodore 64.
[04:52] <cps1966> dan same here
[04:52] <JRH3K5> Does that make me old-school?
[04:52] <dan_> now everybody wants to chat and check e-mail
[04:52] <ironfroggy> JRH3K5: i work on my hardware all the time, but ive never had a laptop open. dont know what to expect, i suppose.
[04:52] <dan_> me too ironfroggy
[04:53] <JRH3K5> Same here; that's why I'd say take it to the authorized tech store.
[04:53] <dan_> thats a good idea
[04:53] <JRH3K5> They know what they're doing, and, if they screw something up, you can get some compensation.
[04:53] <dan_> maybe you can ask to watch them do it
[04:53] <JRH3K5> dan likes to watch.
[04:53] <dan_> lol
[04:53] <cps1966> me too
[04:54] <ironfroggy> maybe i should just get a usb hdd instead.
[04:54] <dan_> there is nothing like taking a hard drive out of a computer and putting it back in
[04:54] <dan_> computer nerd humor
[04:54] <dan_> i love it
[04:54] <cps1966> make sure i'm getting my monets worth
[04:54] <JRH3K5> I'd say go USB
[04:54] <dan_> well anyways thanx guys
[04:54] <JRH3K5> That way, you can easily transfer files between your laptop & other computers
[04:54] <dan_> i'll be back
[04:55] <dan_> latre
[04:55] <JRH3K5> Seagate has a nice 8 GB puck-sized portal HDD
[04:55] <ironfroggy> 160 gig usb drive is less than 150 now. crazy
[04:55] <JRH3K5> *portable
[04:55] <JRH3K5> I've been wanting to get one for myself for some time now.
[04:55] <JRH3K5> Instead, I spent all my money on a new computer. :/
[04:55] <cps1966> ironfroggy:  how old is that thing
[04:55] <ironfroggy> cps1966: what my laptop? its pretty new, why?
[04:56] <cps1966> pretty new is 1995 to me
[04:56] <ironfroggy> more like 2005
[04:57] <cps1966> mine has 720MB drive in it
[04:57] <ironfroggy> well aint you special
[04:57] <JRH3K5> What OS fits on that?
[04:57] <ironfroggy> im trying to dual boot for the time being
[04:57] <cps1966> dsl
[04:57] <JRH3K5> ...what two OS's fit on that?
[04:57] <JRH3K5> 3.1 and DOS?
[04:57] <ironfroggy> and right now kubuntu is stuck in about 2 gigs...
[04:57] <cps1966> 95 and dsl will fit
[04:57] <ironfroggy> oh.. MB.. thought you said GB
[04:58] <JRH3K5> o_o
[04:58] <JRH3K5> I'd like to have a laptop with a 720GB HD
[04:58] <cps1966> hehe
[04:58] <posthuman> did you say 720mb harddrive?/
[04:58] <posthuman> talk about time to upgrade
[04:58] <cps1966> yes i did
[04:58] <cps1966> for what
[04:58] <posthuman> obvious reasons?
[04:58] <posthuman> ;)
[04:59] <cps1966> why cause your not happy
[05:00] <ironfroggy> i cant seem to get my ext3 partition moved now that ive shrunk my ntfs partition to make room for it...
[05:00] <ironfroggy> isnt that supposed to be doable?
[05:07] <nrdb> I have just installed skype I would like to test it is there anyone here that would like to chat?
[05:08] <Hawkwind> nrdb: Probably people in #Skype that would help test it with you
[05:08] <nrdb> Hawkwind: didn't know about that one
[05:10] <nrdb> Hawkwind: there appears to be nobody in #Skype or #skype
[05:10] <cps1966> my skype works ok
[05:11] <Woosta> Anyone know why alsa-utils doesn't come with alsaconf, even though it's in the README?
[05:12] <eXCeSS> !wireless
[05:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:23] <andrew_> !wpa
[05:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:23] <andrew_> !wpa2
[05:24] <cps1966> !wan
[05:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about wan - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:24] <cps1966> !won
[05:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about won - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:50] <awe6> Anyone with experience running gnome-pilot (a gtk program) on Kubuntu?
[06:08] <lkukacc> j reggelt
[06:14] <SpAwN> well i uninstalled the officail driver and used this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia to install the one from ubuntu but now when i use the nvidia driver and restart x it doesnt work
[06:15] <SpAwN> it just stays at the blue kubuntu logo
[06:15] <soldier> hi
[06:16] <soldier> anyway i can install ubuntu desktop on kubuntu?
[06:16] <soldier> is it apt-get install ubuntu desktop?
[06:16] <abattoir> soldier: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[06:16] <Woosta> I'm having all sort of problems running a configure script .. I've installed gcc, but I'm guessing I'm missing something else
[06:17] <soldier> thank you
[06:17] <Woosta>  /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[06:17] <abattoir> Woosta: try install build-essential
[06:17] <abattoir> !info build-essential
[06:17] <Woosta> ahh .. ta
[06:17] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:17] <abattoir> !build-essential
[06:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:23] <SpAwN> yea i get it installed from the repos....use the command sudo nvidia-glx-config enable .....edit the xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver....i even tried modprobe nvidia....which didnt return any errors....i then hit ctrl alt backspace.......and it just sits at the kubuntu logo screen.....i have to use ctrl alt f1 and re edit the xorg.conf to use the vesa driver........can anyone help get it working....
[06:26] <the_hammer> someone in here earlyer said something bout adding something to the line where it says die in the bot
[06:26] <the_hammer> what was i to add again?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> LOL
[06:27] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: #
[06:27] <the_hammer> ok
[06:27] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: If you read the file it tells you that
[06:27] <Hawkwind> It tells you you have to do it in 2 different places.  Seriously, read the file as it tells you EVERYTHING you need to know
[06:28] <SpAwN> the_hammer, eggdrops are very well documented......
[06:28] <posthuman> spawn, did you fix your nvidia problem?
[06:28] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: He's been working on this for about 6+ hours now.  Not really the channel for it either
[06:28] <SpAwN> posthuman, negadive
[06:28] <SpAwN> im now trying the suggested way and its not working
[06:29] <posthuman> have you tried downloading the drivers from the nvidia website?  Really easy to install... simply un tar it, and kill xserver, run the script
[06:29] <posthuman> I had to do that as well
[06:29] <SpAwN> posthuman, thats waht i was doing
[06:30] <posthuman> really?
[06:30] <posthuman> odd..
[06:30] <the_hammer> spawn can i send u my config?
[06:30] <SpAwN> posthuman, but for som reason everytime i reboot they dont get loaded...and i cant just modprove it....i have to manualy reinstall evertyime
[06:30] <SpAwN> the_hammer, no
[06:30] <SpAwN> the_hammer, i dont have time to help u with a eggdrop...i got prolems of my own
[06:30] <knapper> Anyone here have a mx310?
[06:30] <the_hammer> ok
[06:30] <SpAwN> the_hammer, google
[06:31] <SpAwN> the_hammer, egghelp.org
[06:31] <the_hammer> you have 1?
[06:31] <posthuman> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:31] <the_hammer> an egg?
[06:31] <posthuman> that will re-create your xorg.conf
[06:31] <posthuman> i'd try that, and then change the driver to nvidia
[06:31] <posthuman> maybe something bad in the file?
[06:31] <posthuman> I really dont know
[06:31] <SpAwN> the_hammer, i have run very many bots............
[06:32] <SpAwN> posthuman, i will try that.........
[06:32] <the_hammer> thinkin if i had 1 that works to look at id have a better idea to what im doign wrong
[06:32] <SpAwN> posthuman, yea i had made sure nvidia driver was being used
[06:32] <the_hammer> im mentally challanged :(
[06:32] <SpAwN> the_hammer, that sucks :P
[06:32] <the_hammer> ppl say it takes 5 mins and it taook me all day and i still aint done
[06:33] <the_hammer> took*
[06:33] <pivo> how fix "BROKEN TRANSLATION" in amaroK?
[06:33] <the_hammer> ive put me as owner and HammersBot as bot
[06:33] <the_hammer> added the irc net and channels
[06:33] <the_hammer> added the time zone
[06:34] <the_hammer> telnet port, etc i think needs work
[06:34] <the_hammer> but unsure
[06:35] <the_hammer> wish when i try to conenct it would specify the exact lines needed to be fixed
[06:35] <the_hammer> make life sooooooooooooooooooo much easyer
[06:35] <the_hammer> but apperently life aint like that heh
[06:36] <SpAwN> brb gonna try to restart x after trying what posthuman said
[06:36] <posthuman> kk
[06:37] <the_hammer> thank god i was smart enough to save the bin i pasted earlyer of my config or id really be messed up
[06:37] <the_hammer> after redoing it 4 times i got smart and made a copy of my work to desktop :)
[06:38] <unix_infidel> the_hammer: try backing up anything that's sensitive necessary.
[06:38] <the_hammer> now ill never lose what i got
[06:38] <unix_infidel> sensitive / necessary.
[06:38] <unix_infidel> much smarter than copying ONE file to the desktop.
[06:38] <the_hammer> learned that the hard way lol
[06:38] <unix_infidel> you're in linux now, act like it :)
[06:39] <pivo> Guy's "BROKEN TRANSLATION" in amaroK was kill me... help me fix it, pls...
[06:39] <the_hammer> wb
[06:39] <posthuman> any luck?
[06:40] <SpAwN> posthuman, yes and no....
[06:40] <SpAwN> i restarted x nothing...........
[06:40] <SpAwN> i then rebooted the computer and its working  ow
[06:40] <SpAwN> ....so its good
[06:41] <SpAwN> thanks
[06:41] <SpAwN> +D
[06:41] <posthuman> cool
[06:41] <posthuman> :)
[06:41] <posthuman> good to here
[06:41] <SpAwN> *=D
[06:43] <the_hammer> ^THE_HAMMER^ is owner and looking at this here set notify-newusers "$owner" should i put ^THE_HAMMER^ there insted of owner?
[06:44] <the_hammer> wb cp
[06:44] <SpAwN> the_hammer, man........goto egghelp.org and READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or maby try a amore appropriate channel...ie #eggdrop
[06:44] <the_hammer> i been to them egg help rooms no one answers me
[06:45] <SpAwN> well go READ
[06:45] <the_hammer> i have been all day
[06:45] <SpAwN> there are thousands of walk throughs out there
[06:45] <posthuman> wtf is eggdrop
[06:45] <posthuman> heh
[06:45] <the_hammer> 90 % talk about hooking upto a shell
[06:45] <the_hammer> havent found to many that dont
[06:45] <cpk2> !samba
[06:45] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:46] <SpAwN> posthuman, seriously?
[06:46] <posthuman> !eggdrop
[06:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about eggdrop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:46] <posthuman> absolutely serious
[06:46] <posthuman> :D
[06:46] <the_hammer> egg drop is just a stupid bot thats a pain in the arse to setup and ya can run them on irc
[06:46] <posthuman> ah
[06:47] <the_hammer> :)
[06:47] <cps1966> irc bots are banned here ya know
[06:47] <the_hammer> yup but not on other nets
[06:48] <cps1966> 90% of them you get banned from freenode for good
[06:48] <SpAwN> posthuman, its a irc bot that is writeen is c and is has lots of addon scripts written in tcl
[06:48] <SpAwN> ...wireless kinda shat out on me
[06:48] <cps1966> something for kids to play with
[06:49] <SpAwN> well they can be quite usefull as there are thousands of add on scripts...............as i cant write code myself so.....i use whats availible
[06:49] <the_hammer> ya thats "IF" ya can get it to run lol
[06:50] <the_hammer> wich i cant not yet anyway
[06:50] <the_hammer> make ya a deal help me get er running and ill leave ya alone :)
[06:50] <the_hammer> ahh i tried
[06:51] <SpAwN> the_hammer, if u pastebin what it says when u try and run it i may be able to help u real quick...i am not abou tto get into it...but if i know the error i may know the prob..........
[06:51] <SpAwN> but the_hammer be aware this is the WRONG channel.......im just helping cuz ive been in your shoes and it blows......................so
[06:52] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18338
[06:52] <lmosher> I -just- installed kubuntu and I'm not such a huge fan of konqueror. I've extracted firefox 1.5, but when I run ./firefox-bin I get an error. Any tips?
[06:52] <SpAwN> the_hammer, thats not what i asked to see.........i need the output of when u run the eggdrop
[06:53] <the_hammer> ohhh
[06:53] <SpAwN> lmosher, use apt-get to install it
[06:53] <SpAwN> lmosher, sudo apt-get install firefox should work
[06:53] <unix_infidel> firefox ships with ubuntu.
[06:53] <unix_infidel> and kubuntu
[06:53] <unix_infidel> iirc.
[06:53] <the_hammer>  * Please make sure you edit your config file completely
[06:54] <Hawkwind> You have to enable universe/multiverse to get firefox
[06:54] <SpAwN> omg the_hammer k u need to LISTEN that error is a dead give away..........u DID NOT REMOVE WHAT I TOLD U
[06:54] <lmosher> Hawkwind: Can you explain what you mean by that?
[06:54] <abattoir> !info firefox
[06:54] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 7725 kB, installed size 22888 kB
[06:54] <abattoir> Hawkwind: it is in main...
[06:54] <the_hammer> i put # in front of die
[06:54] <Hawkwind> It's in main.....
[06:55] <Hawkwind> Heh I just did apt-cache policy to find out :P
[06:55] <SpAwN> the_hammer, if u had listened u woul dknow there is more then one
[06:55] <abattoir> ubotu is faster and more convenient :P
[06:55] <the_hammer> i did it to all of them
[06:55] <SpAwN> the_hammer, thats all im gonna help u with...u realy need to pay more attention
[06:55] <the_hammer> i used find and then i replaced soon as i seen it
[06:55] <lmosher> Is there a graphical front-end to apt-get (like yumex for yum)?
[06:55] <abattoir> lmosher: adept
[06:56] <lmosher> Ah, ok ty
[06:56] <SpAwN> the_hammer, well u obviously didnt that error ONLY happens when u dont do that..........so
[06:56] <SuperPerroFlashi> whoaaaa... lotta people
[06:56] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: Not to be rude, but you've been told all day that this is NOT the best channel since it's NOT Kubuntu related
[06:56] <abattoir> lmosher: KMenu->System->Package Manager
[06:56] <SpAwN> wel i am gonna go play some et
[06:56] <lmosher> ty
[06:57] <lmosher> Actually I ran adept to get updates, but I didn't see a way to install. Perhaps that will be obvious when the updates are done :)
[06:57] <lmosher> to clarify, I didn't see an option to install new packages.. only list and then apply the available updates. I'm sure once it's finished it'll be clear how to install new packages.
[06:57] <the_hammer> says die 4 times
[06:57] <the_hammer> and i put # in front of them
[06:58] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: Are you paying attention to what we are saying ?
[06:58] <the_hammer> ok im sorry
[06:58] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> comanse a besos esta noche, total nadie lo va notar....
[06:58] <Hawkwind> MaxQ-Zeppelinian: English ?
[06:58] <the_hammer> what about kubuntu off topic room?
[06:59] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: #Eggdrop  and be patient and wait
[06:59] <ivis> Help i remove gnome toolbar how to enable it plz help meeeee
[06:59] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> sure...
[06:59] <abattoir> !es
[06:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:59] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> thanx for the tip
[06:59] <Hawkwind> ivis: You mean gnome-panel ?
[06:59] <ivis> yes
[06:59] <Hawkwind> ivis: In a terminal type: gnome-panel
[07:00] <ivis> error
[07:00] <ivis> gnome panel alredy runing
[07:00] <ivis> but i got only one panel
[07:00] <Hawkwind> ivis: killall gnome-panel
[07:00] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> hey... can you remove the GnomeBar?
[07:00] <ivis> when i minimaze windows i dont see
[07:00] <knapper> How do I get xmodmap to load automatically on boot in KDE?
[07:00] <Hawkwind> ivis: Then run gnome-panel again
[07:01] <Hawkwind> ivis: I know nothing about Gnome so you might have better luck in #Ubuntu since it uses Gnome
[07:01] <knapper> Anyone know?
[07:01] <knapper> :/
[07:01] <cpk2> anyone have any experience on setting up samba shares?
[07:02] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> sorry, not me
[07:02] <knapper> cpk2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=samba        <--- helped me alot
[07:02] <lmosher> knapper: I could be off, but I believe you can place a link in ~.kde/Autostart
[07:02] <cpk2> knapper: i already did all that =\
[07:03] <cpk2> exact walkthrough
[07:03] <lmosher> knapper: Alternativly, you could edit /usr/bin/startkde...
[07:04] <knapper> lmosher: thanks
[07:04] <lmosher> I'm trying to play a shoutcast stream w/ amarok, but getting no output. I'm assuming I need to install a -mp3 package?
[07:04] <ChefWill> !mp3
[07:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:04] <ChefWill> ^^ :)
[07:05] <the_hammer> whats your off topic chan
[07:05] <the_hammer> !off topic
[07:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about off topic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:06] <abattoir> the_hammer: #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:06] <abattoir> !offtopic
[07:06] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:06] <knapper> lmosher: Can you give me a rundown on how to place it in kdestart
[07:07] <knapper> lmosher: cause putting it in autostart didn't work
[07:07] <knapper> :/
[07:08] <Healot> damn ubuntuans ban onion routers
[07:08] <lmosher> knapper: hrm there's got to be a way to run commands w/out manually editing startkde (that's just a little extream)
[07:08] <knapper> that shift + backspace bug is about to make me kill myself
[07:10] <knapper> Nope, still didn't
[07:10] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> i actually got a bit worried
[07:10] <knapper> What is the equivalent to gnome sessions
[07:10] <knapper> for kde
[07:11] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> what's a gnome?
[07:11] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> (hahaha)
[07:11] <Healot> $  /etc/init.d/kdm start|restart|stop
[07:11] <lmosher> knapper: according to the documents, files located in the Autostart folder have to be executable scripts
[07:12] <lmosher> knapper: So just create a text file that does like "yourbinaryfile &" and then chmod it +x and you should be OK
[07:12] <knapper> lmosher I did a+x .Xmodmap
[07:12] <knapper> still no dice
[07:12] <lmosher> what is .Xmodmap?
[07:12] <knapper> xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 8 9 6 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32"
[07:13] <knapper> executing that command in term makes my mouse work
[07:13] <lmosher> ah ok so it's just a text file w/ that command?
[07:13] <knapper> yea
[07:13] <lmosher> try naming it without the . in front?
[07:13] <knapper> ok
[07:13] <lmosher> like just call it /home/knapper/.kde/Autostart/startffsplease
[07:13] <lmosher> or something ;)
[07:14] <knapper> lol
[07:14] <ivis> Please help what is this problem dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem ?
[07:14] <knapper> ok here we go
[07:14] <lmosher> good luck
[07:15] <knapper> OH and do you know how I can fix this *bleep* Shift + Backspace bug in XGL?
[07:15] <knapper> off the top of your head
[07:15] <cpk2> ivis: you should probably do what it tells you
[07:15] <lmosher> no idea, this is literally my first hour using kubunu. All my exp is in fluxbox on FC :P
[07:15] <ivis> i do
[07:15] <knapper> nvm found it
[07:16] <ivis> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[07:16] <cpk2> ivis: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:16] <Healot> prefix with "sudo"
[07:16] <lmosher> btw, if this was FC I would use the livna repos to get the -mp3 codecs I need. Adept doesn't show the required "ugly" gstreamer plugins - where can I find these packages?
[07:16] <ivis> ohhh
[07:16] <Healot> !find gstreamer
[07:17] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-alsa, gstreamer0.10-doc, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base (and 82 others)
[07:17] <ivis> Thanks guys ;)
[07:17] <knapper> By the blood of virgins, this better work... or else
[07:17] <knapper> brb
[07:17] <Healot> !find gstreamer0.10-ugly
[07:17] <ubotu> No packages matching 'gstreamer0.10-ugly' could be found
[07:17] <Healot> !find gstreamer0.10-mad
[07:17] <ubotu> No packages matching 'gstreamer0.10-mad' could be found
[07:17] <lmosher> !find gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[07:17] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-dbg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-doc, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[07:17] <lmosher> Ok, so it found it. How does this help? :)
[07:20] <RawSewage> I need Audacity help please
[07:20] <knapper> OH MY LORD
[07:20] <knapper> MY BUTTONS WORK
[07:20] <knapper> YAY REJOICE
[07:20] <RawSewage> How do I install more Nyquist Plugins
[07:21] <Healot> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[07:21] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 176 kB, installed size 484 kB
[07:21] <RawSewage> I pasted the Nyquist plugins into the plug-ins directors of Audacity
[07:21] <RawSewage> but theyre not showing up when I start audacity
[07:21] <knapper> lmosher: tnx for your help. PS it wasn't working because I forgot to put #!/bin/bash at the top
[07:21] <knapper> :S
[07:21] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> hahahahaaaaaaa
[07:21] <lmosher> knapper: ahh hehe :P that'll getcha every time :)
[07:21] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> happens very often
[07:21] <lmosher> Healot: Ok how do I enable the universe repository?
[07:22] <knapper> tnx tnx tnx, this has been a problem ive been trying to figure out for more than a few weeks
[07:22] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> like looking for the glasses you're holding
[07:22] <knapper> Now I can go shower
[07:22] <knapper> ^_^
[07:24] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> have a happy shower
[07:25] <lmosher> in Adept I've gone and enabled the "universe" repo, but I still don't see the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly package. What am i dong wrong?
[07:25] <SpAwN> lmosher, did u add the multiverse one too?
[07:25] <SpAwN> !restricted
[07:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:25] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> why don0't you check in 'apt-get.org' for other reps with the pkg?
[07:26] <SpAwN> lmosher, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:26] <lmosher> SpAwN: hrm I don't see one in there by default
[07:26] <lmosher> ahh that last link will help, ty :)
[07:26] <SpAwN> lmosher, np............just follow that one step by step  and u should be good
[07:28] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> welcome, test
[07:28] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> hahaha
[07:28] <test> Hello again. Can I get some samba help?
[07:28] <ChefWill> anyone know how to change what programs are loaded on the saved session?
[07:28] <cpk2> test i have been agonizing over samba all day =)
[07:28] <test> i think my question is rather easy
[07:29] <SpAwN> anyone know why my alsamixer settings arnt being save...ive used the command "sudo alsactl store 0" that will supposedly store the settings.....but last reboot i had to redo the settings
[07:29] <cpk2> well no one will ever know until you ask it
[07:29] <test> i just need to know how to set the username and password so i can access my samba shares from a windows computer
[07:30] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:30] <cpk2> test: smbpasswd -L -a username
[07:30] <SpAwN> test, i havent used samba in awhile....but if u set the security level to like default or standard or somthing u woul dbe able to just browse it without inputting username/pass
[07:30] <cpk2> smbpasswd -L -e username
[07:31] <test> cpk2: What does that do?
[07:32] <user_> hello World
[07:32] <user_> am new  to kubuntu
[07:33] <Healot> yes user_
[07:33] <user_> where do i start
[07:33] <test> SpAwN: I tried setting everything to default and no go.
[07:33] <SpAwN> test, ....sorry i couldnt help more...but i had the same issue....i ended up manualy editing  a samba config file...and had to change the security level or somthing like that
[07:33] <test> cpk2: smbpasswd generates all kinds of panic messages
[07:34] <SpAwN> test, buts its been a while and i forget
[07:34] <cpk2> test: first one sets the username password second one enables username
[07:34] <cpk2> sudo it
[07:35] <Steven_M> hi all
[07:36] <test> cpk2: So which one is the password? They both say username?
[07:37] <test> Steven_M: Hiya
[07:38] <test> cpk2: oh okay i get it
[07:38] <Steven_M> what version of X11 is installed from the Dapper LTS desktop cd?
[07:38] <abattoir> !info xserver-xorg
[07:38] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[07:39] <abattoir> Steven_M: ^^^^^^
[07:40] <Cornellius> Steven_M: 7
[07:40] <Cornellius> !xorg
[07:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:40] <Cornellius> !x11
[07:40] <Steven_M> how do I find out what version I have now?
[07:40] <test> SpAwN: Thanks for trying to help and cpk2 thank you for your help too.
[07:41] <the_hammer> cp tried to msg ya but think it didnt work
[07:41] <abattoir> Steven_M: 'sudo apt-cache policy xserver-xorg'
[07:42] <lmosher> What is the standard proceedure to get java working?
[07:42] <SpAwN> lmosher, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[07:42] <Healot> download the jdk/jre?
[07:42] <SpAwN> lmosher, use cli to instal java
[07:43] <lmosher> cli?
[07:43] <SpAwN> command line
[07:43] <cpk2> !katapult
[07:43] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[07:43] <SpAwN> adept wont install that java right
[07:43] <lmosher> can I just download/install the RPM like I would in fedora?
[07:43] <SpAwN> lmosher, trust me
[07:43] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> see ya, guys
[07:44] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> pleased to meet u
[07:44] <SpAwN> lmosher, run the command i gave you
[07:44] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> ciao
[07:44] <cpk2> test: did it work?
[07:44] <lmosher> hrm so there's a difference between installing that w/ adept than the actual apt-get command? hrm
[07:44] <drew3> Hi all, if I switch from Mandriva to Kubuntu, Both KDE, Is there a good chance of saving most of my KDE settings?
[07:45] <SpAwN> lmosher, after u install the java use this command "sudo update-alternatives --config java" to select what one ot use...u wan to select the sun java one
[07:45] <SpAwN> lmosher, exactly right.....adept doesnt handle the         questions java asks u
[07:45] <lmosher> SpAwN: Damn sun and their license agreement, eh?
[07:45] <SpAwN> where as in cli u can manualy select it
[07:45] <SpAwN> lmosher, bingo
[07:45] <SpAwN> :P
[07:45] <cpk2> SpAwN: i saw in the wiki there is some command to run that fixes that
[07:46] <cpk2> SpAwN: but i read it too late and broke my package =\ thankfully it was pretty easy to fix
[07:46] <SpAwN> cpk2, i wasnt aware of one...but hey why not just use one simpl command
[07:46] <lmosher> SpAwN: "update-alternatives" isn't a command? did you mean sudo apt-get.. etc?
[07:46] <SpAwN> but lmosher make sure u select sun java from the second command i gave you
[07:47] <lmosher> nevermined I typed alternative, not alternatives
[07:47] <SpAwN> lmosher, step 1 run "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin" step 2 run "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[07:48] <lmosher> ok, last question about that java I just installed: where the javaplugin .so?
[07:49] <SpAwN> Healot, any reason why ya ctcp pingin me???
[07:49] <SpAwN> lmosher, that one i dont know
[07:50] <SpAwN> well im gonna go and get command and conqueror to work
[07:51] <lmosher> hrm anyone use firefox w/ kubuntu and know how to get the java plugin working?
[07:51] <lmosher> I know where the plugin file goes for firefox, but now where the plugin file is located when installing java thru apt-get vs. the RPM method. With rpm it's in /usr/java... but that dir doesn't exist.
[07:51] <Steven_M> Cornellius: the version my terminal said corresponses to the version stated in the channel, but I can remember updating  some x11 stuff
[07:54] <cpk2> !javaplugin
[07:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about javaplugin - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:54] <cpk2> !java
[07:54] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:55] <cpk2> apt-get sun-java5-plugin
[07:56] <lmosher> cpk2: "no installation candidate"
[07:56] <lmosher> am I missinga repo?
[08:08] <will___> hey guys
[08:09] <the_hammer> hi will
[08:09] <will___> steven_m: you're not from Idaho are you?
[08:10] <Steven_M> will___: afraid not.
[08:11] <will___> Steven_M: k.  just have a friend from here with same first and last initial
[08:12] <will___> Steven_M: does anyone know how to get all of the function keys on my dell laptop keyboard to work with linux?
[08:12] <will___> its not a necessity, but it would be nice
[08:12] <Steven_M> will___: sory for the confussion :)
[08:13] <will___> the_hammer: do you know how to enable the function keys on my laptop?
[08:13] <the_hammer> nope
[08:13] <will___> the_hammer: some work, but the wifi on/off and the volume up/down/mute don't work
[08:13] <the_hammer> ive never delt with laptop
[08:14] <will___> k
[08:14] <lmosher> What's the package name for a working flash player and firefox plugin?
[08:14] <will___> no worries
[08:16] <cpk2> !flash
[08:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:17] <cpk2> !sun-java5-plugin
[08:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about sun-java5-plugin - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:18] <cpk2> lmosher: the wiki says sun-java5-plugin should work if you have 6.06
[08:18] <cpk2> i guess check that you have multiverse and universe
[08:19] <lmosher> cpk2: I got java working, i'm now trying to get flash working :0
[08:19] <Lamington> I dont supposed anyone has installed X2:TheThreat on kubuntu ? I'm getting a really bad framerate
[08:19] <cpk2> lmosher: flashplugin-nonfree
[08:21] <lmosher> cpk2: I can't find that one. Closest I se is libflash-mozplugin and libflash-swfplayer... however both of those completely kill firefox...
[08:21] <lmosher> I saw flashplugin-nonfree as the suggested package, but it wasn't for 6.06
[08:25] <cpk2> lmosher: are you using konquerer?
[08:27] <lmosher> cpk2: firefox
[08:28] <cpk2> and flashplugin-nonfree should be for 6.06
[08:29] <lmosher> I don't see it anywhere in adept and I have uni/multiverse repos enabled. is there a flash repo? If I recall I had to use a separate flash repo when I used yum
[08:32] <noiesmo> lmosher, thats od its there for me when i do apt-cache search flash
[08:34] <SpAwN> the_hammer, please dont msg me asking for help...hounestly i have told you your exact problem........if u can fix what i told u to....there is not a chance in hell u will be able to use a eggdrop....it will be WAY to advanced for you
[08:34] <SpAwN> *can=cant
[08:36] <cpk2> lmosher: try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[08:36] <lmosher> You don't believe it's not there? lol
[08:36] <Generic> This error keeps popping up when i install various apps
[08:36] <Generic> ** (process:6259): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[08:37] <lmosher> "couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree"
[08:37] <Healot> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[08:37] <cpk2> lmosher: sudo apt-get update
[08:37] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:37] <noiesmo> lmosher, I am in aussie and use aussie repos and its there
[08:37] <Healot> !multiverse
[08:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:37] <SpAwN> lmosher, u added those online sources?
[08:38] <nrdb> I just install the kubuntu livecd onto a spare partition, it isn't booting it hangs then locks up on "loading file to boot".
[08:38] <lmosher> I think i followed the multiverse instructions. You click the right click the two "universe" reos, change to "enable". Then you double-click and add the word "multiverse" correct?
[08:38] <lmosher> I followed the instructions, I think. that's what I did, anyway
[08:38] <cpk2> !easysource
[08:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:38] <SpAwN> lmosher, yes....did u refresh it after?
[08:38] <lmosher> yep
[08:39] <SpAwN> how many packs are availible?
[08:39] <lmosher> hrm I have no idea but it keeps hanging at 99%
[08:39] <Healot> lmosher: wrong repos... enable the "dapper" repos, not the "dapper-backport" repos...
[08:39] <SpAwN> lmosher, what hangs?
[08:39] <lmosher> ahh backport, those aren't enabled
[08:39] <SpAwN> lmosher, in adept it will tell u how many packs there are at the bottom
[08:39] <lmosher> the adept update hangs at 99% on an update
[08:40] <lmosher> it says 1541 atm
[08:40] <SpAwN> lmosher, u dont need to enable the backports
[08:40] <SpAwN> i dont think
[08:40] <lmosher> ... well the multiverse is def. enabled b/c I had to have it so to get one of the java things
[08:40] <SpAwN> lmosher, then u havent refreshed them
[08:40] <cpk2> lmosher: you might want to just use that source-o-matic link
[08:40] <SpAwN> i have over 18000 packs
[08:40] <lmosher> SpAwN: I am trying to refresh. lik eI said it keeps hanging at 99% no idea why
[08:41] <SpAwN> lmosher, hit fetch updates
[08:41] <lmosher> and all the little download things say s"done 100%" but it's not finishing
[08:41] <nrdb> can anyone help with a new install not working I installed from "kubuntu livecd 6.06" it hangs at "loading files to boot" :(
[08:41] <cpk2> lmosher: type in one of the repos?
[08:41] <cpk2> typo*
[08:41] <SpAwN> lmosher, if u have a slow puter it may just be reading the packs list...could take time on a slow puter
[08:41] <lmosher> it's not that pokey. 3500+
[08:41] <the_hammer> spawn can i msg u?
[08:42] <SpAwN> nrdb, if its the live dvd..i recomend installiung using hte text install method
[08:42] <SpAwN> the_hammer, no i have u blocked from my private messages
[08:42] <SpAwN> the_hammer, i cant help man sorry...i told u what was wrong
[08:42] <lmosher> ok I added backports, clicked 'fetch updates' and it's STILL not showing a flashplugin-nonfree package
[08:43] <the_hammer> i been workin on it found help
[08:43] <SpAwN> the_hammer, it is now out of my hands.......u can either follow what i said or actualy go read
[08:43] <the_hammer> the 1st 2 lines of #die was told remove those
[08:43] <the_hammer> so i did
[08:43] <nrdb> SpAwN: It isn't the DVD I just went though the GUI started by the install icon on the Desktop.
[08:43] <the_hammer> still wont go
[08:43] <SpAwN> nrdb, its a live disk correct?
[08:43] <nrdb> SpAwN: yes
[08:44] <SpAwN> nrdb, reboot...use text install...or dl a install cd of it
[08:44] <cpk2> lmosher: did you go to that source-o-matic page?
[08:44] <SpAwN> nrdb, the gui installer f**ked my system
[08:44] <nrdb> SpAwN: ok so I boot into the LiveCD and do what?
[08:45] <SpAwN> lmosher, try this command as root...but close adept 1st "apt-get -y update"
[08:45] <cpk2> lmosher: or you could pastebin your source.list
[08:45] <jbrouhard> Is there a way for me to get a printable list of all the packages I have installed on my desktop here ?
[08:45] <SpAwN> nrdb, well on the live dvd i had...u booted the cd/dvd...there was a few options...one will be somthing to do with text.....use that
[08:46] <lmosher> cpk2: I used yoru source-o-matic page, but if you like I can pastebin my current sources list?
[08:47] <nrdb> SpAwN: On the LiveCD I don't think there is such an option.
[08:47] <SpAwN> nrdb, there might not be.........but i would figure there woul dbe
[08:47] <nrdb> SpAwN: do you mean from the grub menu?
[08:48] <Jack1> hi where is kwallet stored for u? it never asks me to store passwords and else but its installed
[08:48] <SpAwN> nrdb, put cd in reboot....it will bring u to a screen......it will give u a few opions...if it doesnt then im not sure
[08:48] <Jack1> it doesnt appear in tray
[08:48] <cpk2> lmosher: wouldnt hurt
[08:48] <the_hammer> set die-on-sighup 0 and setdie-on-sigterm 1 i put #'s in front it wouldnt fire up so then removed #'s and still wouldnt fire up only 2 places left with the #'s infront is #die "Please make sure you edit your config file completely." and #die "Please make sure you edit your config file completely."
[08:48] <lmosher> SpAwN: Well it's hanging trying to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com for whatever reason
[08:48] <nrdb> SpAwN: I do think you mean the initial grub menu I will look there. bye.
[08:49] <lmosher> cpk2: since im' out of adept, where is source.list kept?
[08:49] <SpAwN> nrdb, yea i could be....didnt think it was grub
[08:49] <the_hammer> ive tried everything :(
[08:49] <nrdb> lmosher: /etc/apt
[08:49] <lmosher> ah ty
[08:50] <the_hammer> ive tried every combo to
[08:50] <nrdb> SpAwN: I think it is I could be wrong though
[08:50] <the_hammer> still wont go
[08:52] <the_hammer> funny how ya pissed at me for sitting here askin for help but i tried everything ya said and still wont go and now ya wont even talk to me meanwhile if ya helped me get er goin i wouldnt be here
[08:52] <lmosher> cpk2: http://rafb.net/paste/results/evJhN552.html
[08:53] <the_hammer> u said put #in front of all #die i did it and didnt work so then took them off of 1st 2 lines and left #'s on last 2 lines of die
[08:53] <the_hammer> because someone else said leave 1st 2 alone
[08:53] <SpAwN> the_hammer, we ARE not a eggdrop channel #1.. #2 no one owes u any kinda help
[08:53] <the_hammer> never said ya owed me
[08:53] <the_hammer> for 1
[08:54] <SpAwN> we can choose to help you....but u obviously dont listen...so im not gonna wasste my time repeating myself
[08:54] <the_hammer> and for 2 no one else in any room is helping me
[08:54] <cpk2> lmosher: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse dont see that one i dont think
[08:54] <the_hammer> true or faulse ya said put # in front of die?
[08:55] <SpAwN> the_hammer, i most defiantly DID
[08:55] <the_hammer> WELL IT DIDNT WORK STILL!
[08:55] <the_hammer> 4 times it mentions die crap
[08:55] <lmosher> ok I'll add it ty
[08:55] <SpAwN> the_hammer, well the error u gave me is a specific error that only happens when u dont remove that line so u are obviously not doin git
[08:56] <lmosher> this could also be a probem:
[08:56] <lmosher> Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.151), connection timed out
[08:56] <SpAwN> but anyways the_hammer no one is helping you becasue if u actualy googled it u would find HUNDREDS of ansers...so dont try and blam ppl for not helping
[08:57] <the_hammer> well then if im not getting it right then obviously its because your way is wrong cuz if it was right it would have worked
[08:57] <SpAwN> lol the_hammer  u have just earner your self a nice ignor from me good bye
[08:58] <the_hammer> #set die-on-sighup 0 and set #die-on-sigterm 1  #die "Please make sure you edit your config file completely." #die "You didn't edit your config file completely like you were told, did you?"
[08:58] <cpk2> lmosher: i'm using the us.archive, no problems
[08:58] <the_hammer> DOESNT WORK the way ya said it would
[08:58] <the_hammer> fricken bs'r
[08:59] <cpk2> lmosher: might be a problem on your end
[09:00] <lmosher> could be
[09:00] <the_hammer> anyone else able to help me with my bot?
[09:00] <SpAwN> lmosher, can u ping the server?
[09:00] <the_hammer> ya wanna boot me for askin for help feel free got nothing to lose anyways
[09:01] <the_hammer> bot aint working now and if ya boot me it still wont be working so really i dont care
[09:01] <lmosher> it's updating now
[09:01] <lmosher> mayhaps the issue is that i'm using 64 bit?
[09:01] <the_hammer> cpk2 any ideas?
[09:02] <SpAwN> lmosher, umm i *think* there is seperate repos for 64 bit
[09:02] <SpAwN> but ive never had a 64bit puter so....
[09:02] <lmosher> SpAwN: well I used source-o-matic to build my repo and i did select my arch
[09:02] <SpAwN> lmosher, ahhhhh k cool
[09:03] <lmosher> but it definately isn't giving me flash or wine. I'm ok w/out flash but I like/need wine
[09:03] <Healot> i need flash for my camera and 3 bottles of WINE
[09:03] <SpAwN> welp its 3am here......im off to bed pz out ppl
[09:04] <the_hammer> imosher ya know anything bout bots?
[09:05] <Healot> #eggdrop >> the_hammer
[09:05] <the_hammer> im there and no one anaswering been there on/off all day for 13 hrs comming on 14
[09:06] <the_hammer> only place ppl talkin is ehre
[09:06] <Healot> yeah
[09:06] <the_hammer> and im on 4 other nets same sh*t different pile
[09:06] <Healot> but not all need eggdrop
[09:07] <lmosher> hammer: I know how to write bots for mIRC that's about it
[09:08] <skavenge> it may be a dumb question but i turn on composite transparency in window decorations/settings and it dies on me twice stating i need xorg 7 (which i have) and to input the composite setting in xorg.conf which ive done and still get the error, what gives?
[09:08] <the_hammer> i just wanna get this thing rolling i took spwans advice and put a # in front of every kill and that didnt work then was told to remove # from 1st 2 lines set die-on-sighup 0 and then setdie-on-sigterm 1 and leave the rest did that and it didnt work ither
[09:09] <will___> the_hammer: you're on here a lot
[09:09] <the_hammer> well thats what im trying to do is set up my egg drop for mirc
[09:09] <the_hammer> ya i know
[09:09] <the_hammer> hehe will i cant get my eggie workin
[09:09] <the_hammer> tried everything been told so far and still she wont go
[09:10] <will___> the_hammer: im new to this so I'm not going to be the one to ask
[09:10] <will___> the_hammer: i dont even know what an eggie is?
[09:10] <the_hammer> eggdrop is a little irc bot
[09:10] <will___> k
[09:11] <will___> the_hammer: do you use amarok?
[09:11] <the_hammer> ppl say it takes 5 mins to set 1 up but its been almost 14hrs of me trying and still no further ahead now then iw as when i started
[09:11] <the_hammer> is that a zipping tool?
[09:11] <the_hammer> looks familure i know i got it but forgte what its for
[09:11] <will___> the_hammer: no.  a music player
[09:12] <the_hammer> ahh i have it but havent tried it then
[09:12] <the_hammer> not yet anyway
[09:12] <will___> the_hammer: k.  well I was shocked at how easy it was to access my NTFS external
[09:12] <will___> the_hammer: but I can't play any music off of it
[09:13] <the_hammer> hmm strange
[09:13] <will___> the_hammer: then I copied it to the desktop so it wouldn't be coming off NTFS and I still cant get it to play
[09:13] <the_hammer> mabe try another player?
[09:13] <Healot> !mp3 > will___
[09:14] <cpk2> the_hammer: i might have found a fix for you
[09:14] <the_hammer> ok?
[09:14] <cpk2> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[09:14] <cpk2> you will need to uninstall what you currently have and apt-get eggdrop
[09:15] <will___> Healot: is that a command?
[09:15] <Healot> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse >> better
[09:15] <the_hammer> mabe i try tomorrow
[09:15] <cpk2> oop the_hammer wrong paste
[09:16] <cpk2> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134223&highlight=eggdrop thats the link
[09:16] <the_hammer> ok
[09:17] <lmosher> Some directions I'm following told me to install "dpkg-dev" so that my "archive program" can open .deb files
[09:17] <lmosher> which "archive program" should I be using?
[09:20] <lmosher> the answer to my question: ar
[09:20] <the_hammer> well although i got eggdrop sitting in usr/eggdrop and i compiled,etc i dont see it in add/remove
[09:20] <the_hammer> so mabe just delete then?
[09:21] <cpk2> lmosher: 64bit directions this might be what you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:21] <the_hammer> cpk2?
[09:21] <cpk2> lmosher: nm ignore that
[09:21] <cpk2> the_hammer: make uninstall
[09:22] <the_hammer> there a sudo way?
[09:22] <cpk2> lmosher: i do hope you have looked at this at least https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[09:22] <lmosher> yeah I got java working just fine
[09:22] <cpk2> i dont think you need to sudo make uninstall unless you made it with sudo
[09:23] <the_hammer> i think i did it with sudo
[09:23] <the_hammer> used sudo for most of it
[09:24] <the_hammer> so cd /home/oem/eggdrop  and then make uninstall?
[09:25] <the_hammer> heh  *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[09:25] <the_hammer> ok tell me how to be rid of it?
[09:26] <cps1966> sudo make unistall
[09:27] <the_hammer> same thing
[09:28] <the_hammer>  *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[09:28] <the_hammer> just delete?
[09:28] <the_hammer> i was ussing ./eggdrop before
[09:28] <the_hammer> so not sure what to do
[09:30] <the_hammer> if i delete it would work right?
[09:32] <the_hammer> !ping
[09:32] <ubotu> pong
[09:32] <will___> anyone know how to get mp3s running on Amarok?
[09:33] <will___> I have amarok-xine installed (i think)
[09:33] <the_hammer> heck with it ill just have 2 copies
[09:34] <the_hammer> synaptic now
[09:34] <the_hammer> then ill move my config
[09:34] <cpk2> will___: xmms might be easier?
[09:34] <cpk2> xmms is a winamp clone
[09:35] <will___> k
[09:35] <will___> they won't run on kaffeine either
[09:36] <will___> It loaded all my files into my collection easy enough,  and I can drag them to the playlist.  but the song ends as soon as it begins in both amorak and kaffeine
[09:37] <cpk2> !mp3
[09:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:37] <the_hammer> fuck this im going to bed dam near 3 am here
[09:43] <will___> thanks cpk2.  that says I need xine but I already have it
[09:56] <Hexidigital_>  i need help with my CUPS server... i was able to get the KDE print manager to access the CUPS server, but i cannot view the available printers. any ideas?
[09:58] <nrdb> I install kubuntu 6.06 from the desktop livecd and it hangs early in the boot up sequence, can anyone help.
[10:01] <scorpion007> nrdb: how early in the boot sequence?
[10:01] <nrdb> scorpion007: near where it says "loading files for boot" or something like that.
[10:04] <scorpion007> nrdb: try pass 'acpi=off noacpi noapic nolapic' options for boot
[10:04] <scorpion007> nrdb: are you able to boot of livecds okay?
[10:06] <nrdb> scorpion007: yes i can, upgraded to dapper and am having troubles with the sound, I was going to try a fresh install (to a different partition) to see if that fixed it (as the sound works fine on the livecd).
[10:07] <kraut> moin
[10:12] <nrdb> scorpion007: I am going to try those new boot options now.  talk to you latter.
[10:15] <Hexidigital_> the KDE add printer wizard is not displaying my remote printer... any ideas on what i may have missed?
[10:19] <cpk2> Hexidigital_: printing in linux is usually a pain at best =\
[10:19] <Chousuke> It depends
[10:20] <Hexidigital_> cpk2::  yes, i see that :) ... but my printer DOES work, so in theory, so should remote CUPS
[10:20] <Chousuke> if you have a good printer, everything will work quite painlessly.
[10:21] <shell> thank god for 2 pcs
[10:21] <nrdb> scorpion007: Hi I am back, that booted with those options, what did I disable?  Should I try and find exactly what option change enabled it to boot?
[10:21] <shell> im installing mandriva on other pc 1 way or another im a gonna have my dam irc eggdrop\
[10:21] <shell> i wont rest till i got it done
[10:22] <shell> ill go through every distro here and ill get more if i have to
[10:22] <shell> i got 10 to my collection
[10:24] <eeos> hi there. I am in desperate eed of some help.
[10:24] <shell> well your in the right place
[10:24] <scorpion007> nrdb: That option disabled Advanced Configuration and Power Interface as well as some other power management functions
[10:24] <shell> lol
[10:25] <eeos> Tried to start Kubuntu 6.06 LTS on my laptop to install
[10:25] <scorpion007> nrdb: are you running on a laptop or desktop?
[10:25] <nrdb> scorpion007: desktop! a few years old now
[10:25] <eeos> but I cannot get further than the "starting kdm" stage
[10:25] <scorpion007> nrdb: could you let me know what cpu/motherboard it has?
[10:25] <eeos> tried all the possible boot paramters I knew
[10:26] <eeos> (including some that are not in the options, like "vga=text")
[10:26] <eeos> :-(
[10:26] <shell> Sysinfo for 'P-4': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.53GHz at 2525 MHz (5054 bogomips), , RAM: 420/495MB, 90 proc's, 3.57h up
[10:27] <eeos> graphic card is ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700 128 Mb
[10:27] <shell> my amd 64 be up shortly
[10:27] <nrdb> scorpion007: its a Pentium 3 copermine CPU,  don't know what motherboard, any other info from KinfoCenter help
[10:28] <eeos> anyone with help clues?
[10:29] <scorpion007> nrdb: There seems to be an issue with the acpi in your bios. You might need to try and upgrade your bios to the latest available, which should hopefully fix your booting issues...
[10:31] <eeos> I think it someting to do with the graphic card.
[10:31] <shell> doing up dates for mandriva hope i can have konversation on it
[10:32] <shell> at 15 of 129 now
[10:32] <eeos> shell: are you on mandriva?
[10:33] <shell> on my other pc i am
[10:33] <shell> just grabbin the updates
[10:33] <shell> did a format from ubuntu and installed mandriva
[10:33] <shell> im on ubuntu here
[10:33] <eeos> shell: I am in migration from mandriva
[10:34] <eeos> shell: why are going the other way?
[10:34] <shell> gonna go through every version of linux i get my hands on till i install a eggdrop
[10:34] <shell> :)
[10:35] <shell> im on my p4 here and will be on soon with my amd64
[10:35] <shell> just hope i can have some of the same chat progs on it
[10:35] <shell> i like this one konversation
[10:36] <eeos> shell: on it, which one?
[10:36] <scorpion007> nrdb: Are you comfortable with doing that?
[10:36] <eeos> shell: there is kopete, ksirc, kvirc on mandriva
[10:36] <shell> whats best?
[10:36] <eeos> shell: I like kvirc
[10:36] <eeos> :-)
[10:36] <shell> ok ill grab that
[10:37] <eeos> shell: IMHO kvirc
[10:37] <eeos> shell: anyway, do you have any hint for me? don
[10:37] <eeos> 't know how to start this blooming CD
[10:38] <eeos> shell: sorry, don't know how to start this "booming" CD further than the starting kdm message
[10:38] <shell> hmm ok
[10:38] <eeos> shell: do you know how to start kubuntu in text mode, without starting the kdm?
[10:38] <shell> im a newbie to linux so i doubt im much help
[10:38] <admiral_proFTW> eeos, recovery mode
[10:39] <admiral_proFTW> or start a fail safe terminal
[10:39] <eeos> shell: so I could start it, install it, then install the drivers and so on
[10:39] <eeos> failsafe does not start
[10:39] <admiral_proFTW> eeos, what?
[10:39] <eeos> failsafe does hang in the same place as the normal installation
[10:39] <admiral_proFTW> eeos, where is that?
[10:40] <eeos> where the dm should start
[10:40] <admiral_proFTW> dm?
[10:40] <eeos> the low lvel window manager
[10:41] <eeos> lie kdm, gdm, xdm
[10:41] <admiral_proFTW> ah
[10:41] <eeos> s/lie/like
[10:42] <eeos> is it possible to pass a paramter to start on a different init level?
[10:42] <eeos> like, init 3 should be ok.
[10:43] <scott_> hey, ive finally got rid of my ati radeon 9600pro (total crap under linux) and got myself a shiny new nvidia 6800gs, what packages should i uninstall/configs to things to do before i remove my ati and put in my nice shiny new nvidia?
[10:43] <admiral_proFTW> uh yea
[10:43] <Healot> since ubuntu is debian, init 2 does init 3 and 5 at the same time
[10:44] <admiral_proFTW> i think you can do runlevel as a command
[10:44] <eeos> so there is no way of starting on a runlevel lower tha the graphic one?
[10:44] <eeos> I am sory I come from other distribution
[10:45] <admiral_proFTW> eeos, did you try recovery mode?
[10:47] <eeos> no, I did not. How do you start recoery mode?
[10:48] <Healot> "linux single" >> should avail grub menu if you install grub properly
[10:48] <eeos> healot: well, I am having the probems with the install disk, how can I install grub?
[10:50] <the_hammer> peek a boo
[10:50] <blyth> Any one know why, after installing SAMBA and sharing drives under SMB and nameing them, Ubuntu still asks for authorisation via a WINXP machine, when I enter my Linux auth into the XP system it still will not allow access? I have been to all the Guides at Ubuntuguide.org like (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_share_public_folders_with_read.2Fwrite_permissions_.28Authentication.3DNo.29)
[10:51] <scorpion007> eeos: does the CD hang or cause the pc to restart?
[10:51] <blyth> and followed them :)
[10:51] <admiral_proFTW> blyth, no idea, that was the problem I had when I was using SAMBA
[10:51] <blyth> Si there somthign other than SAMBA?
[10:51] <blyth> for WIN networking?
[10:52] <the_hammer> ok this is wayyy different
[10:52] <eeos> scorpion007: the CD hangs. Black screen. Laptop silent and still :-D.
[10:52] <the_hammer> hammer is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported
[10:52] <the_hammer> why am i getting this ?
[10:52] <admiral_proFTW> blyth, i dont know
[10:52] <the_hammer> trying sudo apt-get install update
[10:53] <the_hammer> eeos that not the command for mandriva?
[10:53] <blyth> Cool, is there another program for Ubuntu like SAMBA that will do the same thing?
[10:53] <scorpion007> eeos: try pass 'acpi=off noacpi noapic nolapic' options for boot
[10:53] <eeos> scorpion007: have already done
[10:53] <scorpion007> eeos: and no difference?
[10:53] <eeos> scorpion007: none
[10:54] <scorpion007> eeos: are you able to boot into live cds at all?
[10:54] <eeos> the_hammer: sorry, what command?
[10:54] <the_hammer> sudo?
[10:54] <eeos> scorpion007: it boots up to the kdm
[10:54] <eeos> scorpion007: then hangs
[10:55] <scorpion007> eeos: as in do you actually get any graphical display?
[10:55] <eeos> scorpion007: no, only the boot display with the logo, then hangs. no kdm.
[10:56] <scorpion007> ctrl+alt+f1
[10:56] <eeos> scorpion007: but the xorg seems to be running because if I do ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:56] <eeos> scorpion007: it does like restart something briefly:-D
[10:56] <eeos> scorpion007: what does that do?
[10:56] <scorpion007> try it
[10:57] <eeos> scorpion007: when the laptop hangs?
[10:57] <scorpion007> yeah
[10:57] <eeos> scorpion007: ok, let me go an try, I have to reboot. talk to you later. best.
[10:58] <the_hammer> eoos what command does mandriva use?
[10:58] <the_hammer> doesnt seem to accept sudo
[10:59] <aegeanlinux> try su
[10:59] <the_hammer> u: user apt-get does not exist
[10:59] <the_hammer> what the heck
[11:00] <aegeanlinux> first type su
[11:00] <vinboy> does anyone what fonts this screenshot is using? they look good http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/images/accounts1.png
[11:00] <aegeanlinux> then type the rest of the command
[11:00] <the_hammer> i did
[11:00] <the_hammer> [hammer@localhost ~] $ su apt-get install eggdrop
[11:00] <the_hammer> su: user apt-get does not exist
[11:00] <scorpion007> type su<CR>
[11:01] <the_hammer> [hammer@localhost ~] $ su<CR>
[11:01] <the_hammer> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline
[11:01] <scorpion007> su then press enter
[11:01] <scorpion007> ...
[11:01] <the_hammer> weird
[11:01] <the_hammer> changed one was a $ and now is a #
[11:01] <scorpion007> means you are root :)
[11:02] <the_hammer> root@localhost hammer] # su apt-get install eggdrop
[11:02] <the_hammer> su: user apt-get does not exist
[11:02] <aegeanlinux> so, just DO NOT type rm -r /
[11:02] <aegeanlinux> ;)
[11:02] <scorpion007> now as root type apt-get install...
[11:02] <aegeanlinux> press su <ENTER>
[11:02] <aegeanlinux>  apt-get install eggdrop <ENTER>
[11:03] <the_hammer> root@localhost hammer] # su
[11:03] <the_hammer> [root@localhost hammer] # apt-get install eggdrop
[11:03] <the_hammer> bash: apt-get: command not found
[11:03] <aegeanlinux> what distro do you use?
[11:03] <the_hammer> mandriva
[11:03] <scorpion007> lol
[11:03] <the_hammer> 2006
[11:03] <aegeanlinux> does mandriva use apt
[11:03] <aegeanlinux> * ???
[11:03] <admiral_proFTW> no
[11:03] <scorpion007> isn't it rpm based?
[11:03] <aegeanlinux> Thought so.
[11:03] <admiral_proFTW> its not debian based
[11:03] <aegeanlinux> yes, it is
[11:04] <the_hammer> ok what i put for eggdrop?
[11:05] <the_hammer> the point/click packages didnt help wouldnt find it
[11:06] <aegeanlinux> do you use KDE?
[11:06] <aegeanlinux> have you tried a program called klik
[11:06] <the_hammer> just installed this so i havent tried anything
[11:06] <aegeanlinux> http://klik.atekon.de/
[11:07] <aegeanlinux> the_hammer: try a better distro like Kubuntu ;)
[11:12] <the_hammer> kubuntu didnt like my vid card
[11:13] <the_hammer> i have ultima 8.0 and also xandros both desktop and deluxe versions
[11:13] <the_hammer> many distros
[11:13] <admiral_proFTW> the_hammer, sounds like a reason to get a better video card
[11:13] <the_hammer> 256 saphire pci express
[11:13] <admiral_proFTW> man get 512
[11:14] <the_hammer> sure u gimmie the cash and i will do that
[11:14] <eeos> scorpion007: I have tried your suggestion. It works, but then I am completely stuck there. Is there a way to start the installer in text mode?
[11:14] <eeos> the_hammer: sorry, I saw you asked me something about Mandriva? what was it?
[11:15] <the_hammer> i forgot now
[11:16] <the_hammer> lol
[11:16] <eeos> the_hammer: :-D
[11:18] <scorpion007> eeos: Were there any messages/errors displayed there?
[11:19] <eeos> scorpion007: no. I removed the lock file from the tmp, then startx again.
[11:19] <scorpion007> eeos: BTW, is this the graphical livecd installer or the text-based one?
[11:19] <dirtyjayx> Guys i need some help with me Kubuntu system
[11:19] <eeos> scorpion007: graphical livecd installer
[11:20] <scorpion007> eeos: You should try the text-based one..it's really very simple :)
[11:20] <dirtyjayx> i installed kubuntu yesterday but i dont have any sound. I tried everything in the kmix but i still have no sound
[11:20] <eeos> scorpion007: yes, but I have just burn the other .... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
[11:20] <eeos> scorpion007: which measn also I have to download it from scratch
[11:21] <scorpion007> eeos: It should save you many hours of aggravation so it should be worth it in th end,,, :)
[11:21] <scorpion007> eeos: What Graphics hardware do you have?
[11:22] <eeos> scorpion007: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700 128 MB
[11:22] <the_hammer> !pastebin
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[11:24] <eeos> I have a kubuntu 6.06 LTS CD for AMD64 graphical installer as a donation, who needs it?  :-D
[11:24] <Sakireth> !pastebin
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[11:24] <eeos> drop an email with address to support@symbulos.com
[11:24] <Sakireth> !ubotu
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[11:25] <Sakireth> !internetexplorer
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[11:26] <dirtyjayx> !sound
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[11:32] <scorpion007> eeos: when you type startx does it load then?
[11:32] <roniez> Has anybody h ere ever played around with jail ?
[11:33] <roniez> with this i mean http://www.jmcresearch.com/projects/jail/
[11:33] <roniez> i cant get it to install
[11:33] <dirtyjayx> guys i messed up my asound.conf and now i cant run alsamixer
[11:33] <dirtyjayx> can any1 tell me how to fix it?
[11:39] <eeos> scorpion007: it does not. I could not see the error properly, was written outside the terminal.
[11:39] <scorpion007> eeos: Not sure if this will help.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-186368.html
[11:39] <scheuri> was anyone able to get a network printer working (I have a HP Laserjet 2100 TN over networt)...if so...care to enlighten me?
[11:39] <Healot> is that network connected printer physically connected to a Windows host?
[11:39] <eeos> scorpion007:  do you which one is the image wth the text installer? is it the desktop one or the alternate one?
[11:39] <scheuri> no...it has a own "printserver"...its normal connected to network with RJ45
[11:39] <eeos> scorpion007: stupid question, found answer
[11:39] <eeos> scorpion007: apologise
[11:39] <Healot> are you in a Windows AD, scheuri?
[11:39] <scheuri> Healot: no...normal private network...at home...so no windows stuff that should be interferring...my printer just doesnt print...
[11:39] <scheuri> Healot: I can ping the machine, I know that IPP should work (worked with Debian Sarge), cant make nmap however...which somehow escapes me
[11:39] <scheuri> machine=printer
[11:39] <Healot> you know what's the IP address of the printer?
[11:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi everyone
[11:39] <scheuri> Healot: aye...affirmativ
[11:39] <MilhousePunkRock> I would like to have the Kubuntu boot screen (before KDE starts) in 1024*768. How do I do that?
[11:39] <scheuri> Healot: wait...oh my god...wait....
[11:40] <eeos> scorpion007: can you install drivers when you are using the live cd?
[11:41] <scheuri> Healot: I am now officially the most stupid person ever walked earth...:)...I mixed up IPs of Router and printer...arrrrrr
[11:42] <scheuri> I should REALLY write down the IPs I am using in my network
[11:43] <scheuri> Healot: thanks....
[11:44] <Healot> documentation is the key :0
[11:44] <scheuri> Healot: aye...it still doesnt work, but at least its not the IP anymore...;)
[11:48] <Healot> did you create the tcp/ip port for that print device, scheuri?
[11:49] <MilhousePunkRock> If I change the resolution of GRUB, will that only be for GRUB or for the subsequent boot stuff as well?
[11:50] <scheuri> Healot: I just changed from IPP to JetDirect...to test connectivity...and it worked...my printer prints...testpage and documents from OOo...
[11:50] <scheuri> Healot: cant really say why IPP didnt work, though
[11:51] <scheuri> and funny thing is...I still cant portscan it with nmap...strange
[11:52] <scheuri> ah now..it worked...okay...
[11:52] <scheuri> oh well...all ports are open...IPP, jetdirect, 515...actually IPP should have worked.
[11:53] <scheuri> Healot: anyway...thanks a lot for pointing me in the right direction...one I should have walked a thousand times before coming here...;)
[11:57] <hexler> hi
[12:00] <hexler> I want to install a windows network printer "Lexmark X5150" and found driver at http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=56:2:0:133:0:0&emeaframe=&fileID=1030&searchLang=en&searchLang=en  but I can't use the *.HQX file as a driver. Have I to do something before I can use it in the printer-wizard ?
[12:01] <noiesmo> hexler, it looks like a mac osx file format
[12:01] <noiesmo> hexler, not linux
[12:02] <noiesmo> hexler, check on linuxprinting.org for drivers or linux compatablity
[12:02] <hexler> noiesmo: badly there aren't driver for my printer
[12:03] <noiesmo> hexler, lexmark is poor for linux support i do believe therer is a driver development kit if you know a programer who can do drivers
[12:03] <scorpion007> eeos: sorry, was afk...I'm not sure. The text installer is alternate
[12:04] <eeos> scorpion007: I do realise it was a stupid question. it is in big ltter on the mirror. apologies.
[12:05] <scorpion007> eeos: Nno problem :) Hope you have better luck with the text version.
[12:05] <hexler> noiesmo: I wanted to try another driver that could work... but when I use the driver wizard and select any driver there is an error message that the system can't load the driver and creation of Foomatic-Driver will be canceled...  but  I am root
[12:06] <eeos> scorpion007: it is taking ages to download it. anyway, I will have a go at it. By the way, do you know how easy is to recompile the kernel on ubuntu?
[12:06] <noiesmo> hexler, sorry i am not sure about that
[12:06] <hexler> noiesmo: ok..  I'll try to download this driver again
[12:06] <scorpion007> eeos: Never tried, but I'd imagine it wouldn't be _that_ difficult...
[12:07] <noiesmo> hexler, np good luck
[12:07] <scorpion007> eeos: Why do you need to? Usually not worth the hassle
[12:07] <eeos> scorpion007: I need alsa 1.0.11 for managing the modem
[12:11] <eeos> scorpion007: need to go for a while. thanks. talk to you later.
[12:12] <dirtyjayx> i installed kubuntu yesterday but i dont have any sound. I tried everything in the kmix but i still have no sound
[12:12] <cpk2> for some reason i cant run kate as sudo...
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> gpk2: use kdesu
[12:14] <cpk2> not sure how i am supposed to use kdesu but sudo kdesu kate doesnt work
[12:14] <h3sp4wn> kdesu kate
[12:14] <noiesmo> cpk2, or gksu kate
[12:15] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: thats works (takes a long time) but it works, although i dunno why sudo kate doesnt work
[12:16] <h3sp4wn> Don't use sudo to run gui applications
[12:16] <h3sp4wn> (try to avoid running gui stuff as root anyway is the best thing)
[12:22] <scorpion007> cpk2: for gui apps in kde you should use kdesu
[12:23] <kuzmaster> !grub
[12:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:25] <Healot> !grope
[12:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about grope - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:26] <alyn3d> hello there
[12:26] <alyn3d> I have a problem with Adept
[12:26] <noiesmo> hello
[12:26] <noiesmo> whats that
[12:27] <alyn3d> i try to remove or add any package with Adept, and it gives me the "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. " error. Any ideas? when I try to use apt-get from the command line, it says that "package metamonitor is in a state of damage"... or something like this..... what can I do ?
[12:27] <noiesmo> alyn3d, there is a conflict with an app or lib you already have installed
[12:28] <noiesmo> alyn3d, you can try aptitude from commandline it has  better package conflict resolution
[12:29] <noiesmo> alyn3d, also if you try apt-get install packagename from command line apt may tell you more ifo about the conflicts
[12:29] <alyn3d> I did that, I ran aptitude from the command line and tryed to remove metamonitor, but with the same result, it doesn't want to remove metamonitor package...
[12:30] <noiesmo> alyn3d, have you tried apt-get -f install ot apt-get install --fix-missing
[12:31] <alyn3d> no, I haven't ... let's see what that does....
[12:31] <noiesmo> ok
[12:31] <noiesmo> alyn3d, dont forget sudo or be root
[12:32] <alyn3d> here's what happens
[12:32] <alyn3d> :
[12:32] <alyn3d> alyn3d@Orion:~$ sudo apt-get install aterm
[12:32] <alyn3d> Reading package lists... Done
[12:32] <alyn3d> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:32] <alyn3d> E: The package metamonitor needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:32] <alyn3d> alyn3d@Orion:~$ apt-get install --fix-missing
[12:32] <alyn3d> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:32] <alyn3d> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:32] <alyn3d> alyn3d@Orion:~$ sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[12:32] <alyn3d> Reading package lists... Done
[12:32] <alyn3d> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:32] <alyn3d> E: The package metamonitor needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:32] <alyn3d> alyn3d@Orion:~$ sudo apt-get -f install aterm
[12:32] <alyn3d> Reading package lists... Done
[12:32] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: stop
[12:32] <alyn3d> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:32] <alyn3d> E: The package metamonitor needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:32] <alyn3d> alyn3d@Orion:~$
[12:32] <noiesmo> alyn3d, ok ok
[12:32] <noiesmo> he didnt need to spam
[12:33] <hari> :)
[12:33] <gnomefreak> alyn3d@Orion:~$ sudo apt-get -f install aterm  (should not have a package name)
[12:33] <cpk2> man phpbb2 is really easy to get working =D
[12:34] <alyn3d> same error
[12:34] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: 1st dont paste in here please use pastebin
[12:34] <noiesmo> alyn3d, looks like dpkg cant fint metamonitor in /var/cache/apt/archives/ either
[12:34] <noiesmo> fint/find
[12:34] <alyn3d> gnomefreak, ok, I won't do that anymore
[12:34] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: next the command sudo apt-get -f install <<should not have a package name withit
[12:34] <noiesmo> alyn3d, here The package metamonitor needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[12:35] <noiesmo> alyn3d, yeh dont paste man :)
[12:35] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: also did you have unofficial repos that you got metamonitor from than comment it out or remove the repo
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> I would look in /var/lib/dpkg/metamonitor.* see if there is anything interesting there
[12:36] <alyn3d> no, the repo is not commented out
[12:36] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: try sudo apt-get -f install   <<< just that nothing else
[12:37] <alyn3d> same error
[12:37] <alyn3d> the package metamonitor has to be reinstalled
[12:37] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: was that package from PLF repo by chance?
[12:37] <noiesmo> i would check /var/cache/apt/archives/ for the metamonitor deb and if not there find it put it there then try again
[12:37] <noiesmo> alyn3d, i would check /var/cache/apt/archives/ for the metamonitor deb and if not there find it put it there then try again
[12:37] <alyn3d> gnomefreak, I don't remember...
[12:38] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: apt-cache policy metamonitor
[12:39] <alyn3d> gnomefreak, that command returns the version and path: /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:40] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: best thing to do atm is to remove that package its no good to you broken
[12:40] <alyn3d> I can't find metamonitor package in /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:40] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: you wont
[12:40] <alyn3d> gnomefreak, how can I remove the package if it doesn't let me to do so
[12:40] <alyn3d> ?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: --force-yes ;)
[12:41] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: how did you install it?
[12:42] <alyn3d> I install it by Adept
[12:42] <alyn3d> lokk what error it gives ne
[12:42] <alyn3d> when I try to remove it
[12:42] <alyn3d> dpkg: error processing metamonitor (--remove):
[12:42] <h3sp4wn> alyn3d: does it say you should reinstall it first ?
[12:42] <alyn3d> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[12:42] <alyn3d>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[12:43] <alyn3d> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove --force-yes which isn't installed.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> alyn3d: sudo apt-get install --reinstall metamonitor
[12:43] <gnomefreak> try that
[12:43] <noiesmo> maybe package removed from repo if apt cant fetch from repo
[12:44] <alyn3d> snomefreak, nope... that gives the same error, "the package metamonitor has to be reinstalled"
[12:44] <h3sp4wn> There is a way to tell dpkg cleanly to ignore the fact its not installed properly (I had to do it yesterday)
[12:46] <alyn3d> any other ideas ?
[12:46] <kuzmaster> i please need some urgent help
[12:47] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me how to mount a fat32 hdd (i think its 32)
[12:47] <kuzmaster> please
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> alyn3D: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -r metamonitor
[12:47] <kuzmaster> !mount
[12:47] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[12:47] <gnomefreak> !mount
[12:47] <kuzmaster> !mount
[12:47] <gnomefreak> !fat32
[12:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:47] <kuzmaster> thanx
[12:47] <kuzmaster> very very much
[12:47] <kuzmaster> i love you
[12:48] <hari> :-|
[12:49] <h3sp4wn> alyn3d: did it work ?
[12:49] <alyn3d> h3sp4wn, that worked! thanks you guys..... that removed the metamonitor package
[12:49] <vinboy> how do I set background color for gtk applications?
[12:49] <alyn3d> now let me see if i can install something with adept
[12:51] <hari> hello friends i have a doubt, in windows the default installation folder is "c:\program files\" what about kubuntu?
[12:51] <alyn3d> hari, in kubuntu, default is /usr/share
[12:52] <hari> thank you alyn3d :-)
[12:52] <Tm_T> or /usr
[12:52] <hari> ok
[12:52] <Tm_T> hari: anyway, normally you don't have to care about it
[12:52] <kuzmaster> ummmmm, how can i check what filesystem is a a hdd?
[12:53] <Healot> sudo fdisk -l
[12:53] <kuzmaster> thanx
[12:53] <hari> ok Tm_T but i installed gmailfs (gmail file system) and i couldnt find where it went :-(
[12:53] <Tm_T> hari: you shouldn't care where it is
[12:54] <alyn3d> hey, now I have a problem... I try to select a package in Adept, and the package is selected as "BROKEN(Install)"... and I can't install it
[12:54] <kuzmaster> can linux write to fat 32?
[12:54] <Tm_T> kuzmaster: yes
[12:54] <hari> ok but then how can i use it?
[12:54] <kuzmaster> can i copy a folder to a fat32 drive?
[12:54] <kuzmaster> a 13gb folder?
[12:54] <Tm_T> hari: do you have any readme related to it?
[12:54] <Tm_T> hari: "man gmailfs" might help
[12:55] <kuzmaster> nevermind
[12:55] <kuzmaster> i was trying to copy it to a foler that i dont have permissions to
[12:55] <hari> ok i will try but when i went under "/usr/share/gmailfs" i have a python file there thats all that i can find
[12:55] <hari> anyway let me try the man command :)
[12:56] <Tm_T> hari: you can execute it everywhere if it's installed properly
[12:56] <hari> ok let me try
[01:00] <alyn3d> so, any idea, why Adept won't let me installl any package ?
[01:01] <noiesmo> i think theres a conflict in packages that you have installed or want to install
[01:11] <amarokker> does anyone know how to make kdict look up words from a global shortcut?
[01:11] <amarokker> it already does that when I am the window has focus-
[01:12] <amarokker> i think stardict does that
[01:21] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[01:22] <rysiek|pl> can anyone point me to the www address where the ubuntu repo search tool resides?
[01:23] <word> rysiek|pl: you mean just a place where the search box is?
[01:24] <rysiek|pl> word: ah, got it already, packages.ubuntu.com - dorry to bother.
[01:24] <rysiek|pl> *sorry
[01:24] <word> ah, k
[01:28] <iGotNoTime> does anyone know what to use in Linux to edit flash media? I switched a few days ago to ubuntu and now have no way to edit my website's flash files. :(
[01:31] <jaffa_> can anyone tell if the Nvidia-glx ver 8762 is any good or should i get the one from the nvidia site ??
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> Its the same drivers afaik
[01:33] <jaffa_> so i dont have to worry about it thanx alot i mean i did get DawnOfWar to run so ya i just wasnt sure thanx alot h3sp4wn
[01:45] <kubuntu> hello?
[01:45] <kubuntu> can you kelp me?
[01:45] <kubuntu> help me please!
[01:45] <MuJ> ...
[01:45] <Tm_T> !helpme
[01:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:45] <kubuntu> xD
[01:45] <kubuntu> sorry
[01:45] <kubuntu> i'm noob with linux
[01:45] <MuJ> we're not mind readers :/
[01:45] <kubuntu> and i install
[01:46] <kubuntu> the amd64 version ob kubuntu 6.06
[01:46] <kubuntu> but i don't have any sources.list
[01:46] <kubuntu> can you create me a sources.list complet?
[01:46] <Tm_T>  /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't exist?
[01:46] <kubuntu> yes it's exist
[01:47] <kubuntu> but this are very empty
[01:47] <Tm_T> humm
[01:47] <kubuntu> in my other version 5.10 i have got a veery extended sources
[01:47] <kubuntu> i'm spanish do you understand spanish?
[01:47] <kubuntu> because my english is so basic
[01:48] <MuJ> your english is just fine
[01:48] <kubuntu> .... thank you ^^
[01:48] <kubuntu> can you help me? do you create a sources.list complet to AMD64 version, please?
[01:48] <kubuntu> and send me?
[01:49] <Tm_T> !sources
[01:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:50] <Tm_T> !easysource
[01:50] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:50] <Tm_T> kubuntu: check those links
[01:50] <kubuntu> i'm using kubuntu version
[01:50] <ranunculoid> It's the same
[01:50] <Tm_T> kubuntu: doesn't matter much, though you can add extra repositories from kubuntu.org later on
[01:51] <kubuntu> i don't understand you
[01:51] <kubuntu> do you run a AMD64 version?
[01:51] <Tm_T> nope
[01:51] <Tommy2k4> opera is really whoring my cpu o_o
[01:51] <Tommy2k4> it never used to
[01:52] <kubuntu> i'm in http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:52] <kubuntu> can you explain me what do I create a sources.list?
[01:52] <Tm_T> kubuntu: I think it's selfexplanory
[01:54] <Tommy2k4> looks self explanatory to me
[01:54] <Tm_T> yup
[01:54] <Tm_T> very simple
[01:54] <wishu> don't understans
[01:55] <Tm_T> wishu: what's the part you don't understand?
[01:55] <Tommy2k4> you see under "Select your sources" it asks your ubuntu version and architecture
[01:55] <wishu> yes but i select 'packages' or 'sources'?
[01:56] <Tm_T> wishu: packages atleast
[01:56] <wishu> atleast? what's it?
[01:56] <Tm_T> wishu: and select only those two first groups
[01:56] <amarokker> does anyone know how to make kdict look up words from a global shortcut?
[01:56] <amarokker> it already does that when I am the window has focus-
[01:56] <Tm_T> wishu: well, sources you need only if you will compile something yourself
[01:56] <amarokker> i think stardict does that
[01:57] <Tm_T> wishu: oh, actually, select those kubuntu.org repositories aswel
[01:58] <Tommy2k4> and opera cos it pwns
[01:58] <Tm_T> Tommy2k4: nah, not everyone needs it
[01:58] <Tommy2k4> lol
[01:58] <Tm_T> like me
[01:59] <Tommy2k4> tis fine by me
[01:59] <wishu> Tm_T: can I talk to you in a private channel?
[01:59] <Tommy2k4> have u all heard about "world firefox day"
[02:00] <Tm_T> wishu: sure
[02:00] <Tommy2k4> what a load of crap
[02:00] <Tm_T> Tommy2k4: this is not proper place for that
[02:00] <Tommy2k4> sowwy
[02:02] <wishu> Tm_T: i can't speack in private channel with you :S
[02:02] <wishu> Tm_T: Konversation says 'Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )'
[02:03] <Tm_T> yes
[02:03] <Tm_T> then register your nick
[02:03] <Tm_T> !register
[02:03] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:03] <wishu> !register
[02:03] <Tm_T> heh, spam protection
[02:03] <wishu> ahh
[02:05] <wishu> Tm_T: kopete says 'the page don't exist :S
[02:05] <Tm_T> heh
[02:06] <Tm_T> wishu: jabber user?
[02:06] <wishu> Tm_T: no i'm using msn messenger and yahoo messenger
[02:06] <Tm_T> ok
[02:06] <wishu> but if you explain me how i create a jabber acount i create yet
[02:07] <Tm_T> I have to go anyway, good luck with it ->
[02:08] <wishu> Tm_T: Bye
[02:11] <wishu> i am in http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic and now it says '2-letter code of your country:' what is my 2-letter code of my country? i'm spanish
[02:12] <wishu> someone help me?
[02:13] <v3ctor> wishu: http://www.bcpl.net/~j1m5path/isocodes.html
[02:14] <wishu> v
[02:14] <wishu> v3ctor: kopete says 'the page don't exist' :S
[02:15] <v3ctor> spain?
[02:15] <v3ctor> ES
[02:16] <wishu> yes
[02:16] <wishu> thank you
[02:19] <mathewfer> Hi does anybody know why I can not creat this file "/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf" in Kubuntu 6.06? It says permission denied.
[02:20] <cpk2> you can create that file, just not as that user =P
[02:23] <mathewfer> What do you mean by "just not as that user =P". Pls explain a bit more on that.
[02:24] <cpk2> if you do "sudo touch /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf" it will create it as root
[02:25] <mathewfer> Thanks I will try that.
[02:25] <cpk2> touch is what makes an empty file btw
[02:26] <mathewfer> By the way, I tried "sudo cat > /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_suplicat.conf" & that did not work.
[02:29] <cpk2> cat doesnt make files
[02:29] <cpk2> sudo touch /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_suplicat.conf will make an empty file named wpa_suplicat.conf
[02:31] <mathewfer> thanks
[02:37] <thyko> how do i make amarock shuffle?
[02:37] <thyko> amarok
[02:39] <mathewfer> Does anyone know "EasyUbuntu" is working currently for Kubuntu 6.06 to install java & falsh for the browser?
[02:40] <eliadosom> _mathewfer I used Automatix and I prefer install handmade
[02:40] <eliadosom> mathewfer I used Automatix and I prefer install handmade
[02:43] <cpk2> mathewfer: you can install java and flash with apt-get
[02:46] <dillinger> i just cant install easyubuntu
[02:48] <ubuntu> Hello, I am using Gentoo for nearly one year. Got the cd for kubuntu.Can kubuntu be updated as gentoo does by using portage?
[02:49] <mathewfer> with apt-get, Java is NOT selectable, I can not clcik it as it has got gray.
[02:49] <eliadosom> if universe reservoir I think that yes
[02:53] <Healot> ubuntu: yes, via "apt-get update" but ubuntu repos can have both binary and source
[02:54] <Healot> ubuntu: deb repos is binary, deb-src is source
[02:55] <Tommy2k4> i installed xubuntu-desktop but dont like it, how can i get kde back to default
[02:55] <dillinger> download kubuntu
[02:55] <Healot> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" >> Tommy2k4
[02:56] <Tommy2k4> ty
[02:57] <Tommy2k4> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168,  Major opcode:  145,  Minor opcode:  3,  Resource id:  0x0, Failed to open device
[02:57] <Healot> and restart X (or your PC), during KDE logon screen, choose KDE as your default desktop
[02:57] <Tommy2k4> anyone got any idea why i get that error several times whenever i run anything from konsole
[02:58] <ubuntu> I do understand that apt-get must be used by reading the previous answers
[03:01] <Healot> you can use any frontend like aptitude,adept,synaptic if you prefer
[03:05] <ubuntu> Thanks, Healot
[03:06] <Healot> if you prefer gentoo style "apt-get", you need to install "build-essential" (for compiler tool chain)
[03:06] <KDEfanboy> gentoo style?
[03:07] <Healot> KDEfanboy: compiling from source package (deb-src repos), gentoos style isn't it?
[03:07] <KDEfanboy> oic
[03:09] <ubuntu> Indeed, I was always updating via compiling the source code.
[03:12] <RogueX> hello
[03:12] <RogueX> Anyone know Amarok??
[03:12] <Tm_T> RogueX: sure
[03:13] <RogueX> Tm_T:  Will it play streaming internet music?
[03:13] <Tm_T> some yes
[03:13] <Tm_T> it also play last.fm streams
[03:13] <RogueX> it says its playing but I get no sound
[03:13] <Tm_T> (1.4.1 I mean
[03:14] <RogueX> but I get sound for everything else including video sound from web sites
[03:14] <Tm_T> RogueX: hum, and what kind of stream it is? and what version of amaroK ?
[03:14] <RogueX> www.di.fm
[03:14] <RogueX> not sure what kind of stream
[03:15] <Tm_T> oh
[03:15] <robert__> mp3, real and wma (di.fm)
[03:15] <RogueX> Amarok shows everything as if its playing but no sound
[03:15] <Healot> choose mp3 stream
[03:15] <Tm_T> RogueX: what version of amaroK
[03:16] <Healot> install libxine-extracodecs first :)
[03:16] <Tm_T> and yes, mp3 stream should work just fine
[03:16] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[03:16] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[03:16] <RogueX> how do you know which is mp3 stream
[03:17] <RogueX> I need to go get the libxine-extracodes I think... checking..
[03:17] <Healot> !multiverse
[03:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:20] <RogueX> Healot THANKS!  thats what I needed ... libxine-extracodes..  thanks everyone
[03:22] <RogueX> Not knowing what packages to install to get stuff to play is a Killer with linux
[03:22] <robert__> tis
[03:22] <robert__> takes a lil while to get used to
[03:23] <blyth> Guys, If Im logged in as the admin, why when I look at the /home dir properties does it say that Im not the owner and all the options are greyed out?
[03:24] <Jack1> hi with which kommand wouldi start kwalletmanager in konsole?
[03:29] <Hawkwind> Jack1: kwalletmanager
[03:29] <Jack1> Failed to open device
[03:29] <Jack1> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[03:29] <Jack1>  Hawkwind
[03:30] <Jack1> as root it says ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[03:30] <Jack1>  Hawkwind
[03:31] <gatekeeper> !exploit > gatekeeper
[03:31] <DocTomoe> Hm, I would like to get advice on compiling kmail and applying source patches ... anyone feels competent?
[03:36] <closeasperil> hi! is there anyone who can tell me how to adjust the timing the audio track of an .avi ? the video track is slightly delayed or runs in a different speed i m afraid
[03:36] <gatekeeper> DocTomoe: the only bit of advice I can give you is to install build-essentials, and have a look a Checkinstall
[03:38] <robert__> anyone know how to reset the repository list, or know where i can down a default config file?
[03:39] <DocTomoe> ubotu sources.list
[03:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:39] <DocTomoe> !easysorce
[03:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysorce - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:40] <DocTomoe> !easysource
[03:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:40] <DocTomoe> there it is, robert__
[03:40] <robert__> thankyou
[03:41] <DocTomoe> gatekeeper: any ideas on "applying patches to source code"?
[03:41] <Jack1> kwalletmanager doesnt start and cannot be configured
[03:41] <Jack1> anyone know sth about it?
[03:42] <gatekeeper> DocTomoe: won't the latest source code have those patches?
[03:42] <DocTomoe> gatekeeper: as the patches fix bug #1015, which is in fact new functionality ("template engine"), I doubt it.
[03:42] <DocTomoe> gatekeeper: at least I don't have any template engine in my kmail ;)
[03:44] <cpk2> could someone tell me why when i try to do sudo echo 'pwcheck_method: saslauthd' >> /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf i get permission denied?
[03:44] <gatekeeper> DocTomoe: I am not familair with how linux do patches I presume there is #ifdef _THIS_PATCH compile code #endif so you just need to ensure the header has #define _THIS_PATCH inside it
[03:45] <DocTomoe> cpk2: check your passwords and permissions
[03:45] <DocTomoe> gatekeeper: this is somewhat too technical for me - I'm not a C++ person. Some easy "follow-me" rules would be great, but thanks anyway
[03:45] <cpk2> DocTomoe: i know the sudo password i am using is correct, and I dont see what there is that su wouldnt own
[03:46] <DocTomoe> cpk2: have you checked any other passwords (e.g. the ones in smtpd.conf)?
[03:47] <DocTomoe> it is authentification, after all. does your mail server auth against a database?
[03:47] <gatekeeper> DocTomoe: I presume you look at the header files to see what is defined and what is not, I would presume but don't know that all the defines would be present and just commented out or defined out if not used, only other thing I can suggest is a bit of googling
[03:49] <cpk2> it wasnt sudoing after the >>
[03:49] <cpk2> had to login as root
[03:50] <gatekeeper> DocTomoe: have a read: http://www.kegel.com/academy/opensource.html
[03:51] <ubuntu> .
[03:51] <DocTomoe> gatekeeper: *click*
[03:51] <DocTomoe> ah, enlightement is near.
[03:52] <robert__> damn repositories... serves me well not to fiddle
[03:53] <gatekeeper> robert__: what's up?
[03:54] <robert__> when apt-get tries to comm with au. .... .ubuntu.com it tries connecting to 1.0.0.0, though i do remember i fiddled with some dns settings too..
[03:57] <gatekeeper> robert__: I take you didn't backup to start with?
[03:58] <robert__> installed 2 days b4 hand, so didnt see the point at the time
[03:58] <gatekeeper> !dns
[03:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about dns - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:59] <robert__> all good, can load the config from the live cd with any luck
[04:00] <gatekeeper> robert__: if you can sort your dns out, then sorting the repos is easy
[04:00] <robert__> looking at it now ;)
[04:05] <Hasserfuellt> Hallo zusammen
[04:08] <beatrix> Do you know streamtunner ?
[04:09] <beatrix> I can't download it with apt-get
[04:11] <DocTomoe> beatrix: might be called streamtuner (with one n)? I can get this with apt-get
[04:12] <beatrix> uhm
[04:12] <beatrix> DocTomoe: ok :) i try to download it
[04:12] <beatrix> DocTomoe: thanks
[04:18] <Tommy2k4> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168,  Major opcode:  145,  Minor opcode:  3,  Resource id:  0x0, Failed to open device
[04:18] <Tommy2k4> anyone got any idea why i get that error several times whenever i run anything from konsole
[04:18] <ivis> Where i can find  a virus scaneR?
[04:21] <fireshell> there is a virus scanner some where in the repositories. i think its under the universe section
[04:23] <cpk2> clamav
[04:23] <gatekeeper> clamav is in the repos, HowTo install AVG is in the ubuntu forums
[04:24] <cpk2> is a virus scanner
[04:24] <cpk2> dont know why you would need av though
[04:24] <walter> ?
[04:24] <fireshell> my thoughts too. there is also one called agerus or along those lines, cant remember its spelling
[04:25] <Tm_T> you might need virus scanner if you host mailserver
[04:25] <Tm_T> so you can check viruses before it end up to windows client
[04:26] <Tm_T> for example
[04:26] <fireshell> Tm_T: for a big mail server thats understandable... but clients should be running a virus scanner anyway
[04:27] <os2mac> two questions. how do you check the version of the kernel you are currently running, and how do you change the order of OS's in the boot loader change the default OS
[04:28] <serenity_WLAN> os2mac: try "/sysinfo" here
[04:28] <fireshell> Sysinfo for 'fireshellf': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Celeron(R)CPU1.60GHz at 1592 MHz (3186 bogomips), , RAM: 211/218MB, 114 proc's, 1.11d up
[04:28] <os2mac> Sysinfo for 'Kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1400MHz at 599 MHz (1200 bogomips), , RAM: 277/503MB, 87 proc's, 9.14min up
[04:29] <fireshell> sorry, was curious
[04:29] <os2mac> ok anyone know the answer to the second question?
[04:30] <os2mac> and doesn't anyone have a wag on when Kubuntu is going to a 2.6.17+ kernel?
[04:33] <Viper550> Would you like to see my proposal for Kubuntu Edgy?
[04:33] <serenity_WLAN> os2mac: &boot/grub/menu.lst there you can change your boot order, but be carefull
[04:33] <gatekeeper> !grub
[04:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:34] <DocTomoe> hm, KDE tells me compiling it needs autoconf, and it is not found (but I installed it). Any ideas?
[04:35] <DocTomoe> corrections: make tells me
[04:35] <os2mac> serenity_WLAN: what are the dangers? common pitfalls?
[04:36] <serenity_WLAN> os2mac: fucking up that list and cannot boot anything
[04:37] <ShuT-> hm, seems like my sound is gone, i think the dwarfs took it away
[04:49] <Tommy2k4> can anyone help figure out why i get the error at the top of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18351 lots whenever running something from konsole
[04:51] <fireshell> .. got part of the repository working...
[04:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there, somebody can suggest me a way to concatenate all the files in a dir to a unique file?
[04:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i mean concatenate at bit level
[04:53] <scott_> how do i get to th nvidia pannel in kubuntu? it didnt install a menu shortcut :(
[04:55] <Healot> cat file1+file2+file3+... > outputfile
[04:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Healot: there are 150 files :) is there a way to do it by hand?
[04:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> not by hand*
[04:56] <fireshell> anyone had probs with the australian archives mirror?
[04:56] <Healot> for loop Tallia1Kubuntu
[04:56] <fireshell> tallia1kubuntu: couldnt u write a quick perl script?
[04:59] <eva_> I'm trying to install samsung printer drvers on Ubuntu and I get the following error:
[04:59] <eva_> uninstall: dynamic-link.h:57: elf_get_dynamic_info: Assertion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed.
[04:59] <eva_> setupdb-bin.uRqW54: dynamic-link.h:57: elf_get_dynamic_info: Assertion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed.
[04:59] <eva_> Keeping existing configuration file.
[04:59] <eva_> CUPS_BackEnd: get-printers failed: client-error-not-found
[05:00] <Tommy2k4> how do i get kde back to defalt
[05:00] <Tommy2k4> i installed xubuntu-desktop but dont want it anymore
[05:01] <grizzly> there isn't resume support with apt-get???
[05:01] <Healot> -f
[05:02] <grizzly> after a restart?
[05:02] <dr_willis_> hmm never noticed.
[05:03] <h3sp4wn>  /var/cache/apt/archives/partial exists so it implies it has support for resume
[05:04] <grizzly> yes but it doesn't work after a restart
[05:04] <grizzly> atleast once you use spt-get without the -f option
[05:06] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: Anything that is downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives is definately kept after a reboot (maybe not the partial ones)
[05:06] <soldier> hi
[05:06] <soldier> wanted to know how to install flash player on firefox
[05:06] <h3sp4wn> The most irritating things is the ubuntu servers not having pdiff support so downloading the package list takes so long
[05:08] <Hawkwind> !flash
[05:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:08] <Tommy2k4> apt-get remove gdm is not such a good idea
[05:09] <h3sp4wn> Why not ?
[05:09] <imbrandon> anyone in here running dual video cards ? i need a bit o help, kde seems to see them both ( see screen shot http://imbrandon.sytes.net/display.png ) but the second monitor isnt displaying anything
[05:09] <Tommy2k4> when i restarted X (in hope that kdm would now be default) it wouldnt load X and i was left with a terminal
[05:09] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: Is that kde or windowS ?
[05:09] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, kde
[05:10] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:10] <fireshell> lol
[05:10] <Hawkwind> LOL h3sp4wn
[05:11] <imbrandon> i take that as a no ?
[05:11] <Tommy2k4> how can i make it load kdm on bootup, it just gives me a terminal
[05:12] <imbrandon> Tommy2k4, sudo apt-get install kdm again
[05:12] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: 2 actual video cards ?
[05:12] <doppelganger_> apt-get install kdm
[05:12] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, yea
[05:12] <Hawkwind> imbrandon: I run two monitors, but with just one video card
[05:12] <doppelganger_> er, sorry
[05:13] <Tommy2k4> kdm is already the newest version.
[05:13] <admin_> Where are my programs stored if used with apt-get>?
[05:13] <Tm_T> Shinzetsu: what you mean?
[05:13] <imbrandon> Tommy2k4, remove it and reinstall ( sudo apt-get --purge remove kdm && sudo apt-get install kdm )
[05:13] <doppelganger_> imbrandon: should he try removing kdm, and reinstalling?
[05:13] <Tm_T> Shinzetsu: I mean, what is your problem
[05:13] <Shinzetsu> Well I installed some pgorams with apt-get but I dunno where they are
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: Are you getting x on both screens - i.e if you set DISPLAY onto the second can you get an x term on it ?
[05:14] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, no i get the monitor self test on the second screen
[05:14] <Tm_T> Shinzetsu: well, just run taht app
[05:14] <Tm_T> Shinzetsu: normally you don't have to care where they are
[05:14] <Shinzetsu> I need to go in its folder
[05:14] <Tm_T> ?
[05:14] <Tm_T> why
[05:15] <Shinzetsu> downloaded a skin :-)
[05:15] <imbrandon> Shinzetsu, why?
[05:15] <Tm_T> Shinzetsu: what app?
[05:15] <Shinzetsu> aMSN
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: There was something in the release notes of xorg 7.1 which mentioned fixes for dual monitors with different makes of video cards
[05:15] <fireshell> ~/.amsn/
[05:15] <Tm_T> Shinzetsu: ~/.amsn/ propably has directory to that stuff
[05:15] <Tm_T> fireshell: murrr
[05:15] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, thats good but i'm not running 7.1 ;P
[05:16] <fireshell> Tm_T: ?
[05:16] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: Backport the fixes ?
[05:16] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, its not , ok never mind
[05:16] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, its a config error , not a bug
[05:16] <imbrandon> anyhow
[05:16] <Tommy2k4> well i think kdm was removed but it wouldnt install again
[05:17] <imbrandon> Tommy2k4, copy and paste this ( sudo apt-get --purge remove kdm && sudo apt-get install kdm )
[05:17] <Tommy2k4> i did
[05:17] <fireshell> its a config issue
[05:17] <fireshell> brb, i gotta find the file (kdm issue)
[05:18] <imbrandon> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:18] <Shinzetsu> nope =/
[05:18] <Tommy2k4> wont work
[05:18] <Tommy2k4> ill pastebin the error
[05:19] <Tommy2k4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18352
[05:19] <Tommy2k4> ignore the device 168 errors (unless you know how to fix it) i get them no matter what i run from console
[05:20] <imbrandon> the device errors are from an incorrect xorg.conf
[05:20] <Shinzetsu> when I look at edit file, the execute command is just 'amsn'
[05:20] <Tommy2k4> ty
[05:20] <Tommy2k4> i guess thats not important for the moment though
[05:20] <fireshell> thats the config file i was loking for
[05:20] <Tommy2k4> them errors at the bottom are the same that i got when apt-get install kdm
[05:21] <imbrandon> you got some debconf issues looks like
[05:21] <Tommy2k4> :s
[05:21] <imbrandon> hrm afk
[05:21] <Tommy2k4> no :'(
[05:22] <fireshell> in freebsd /etc/initd.conf holds the default window manager, wots the debian equiv?
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> .xsession (if you are using startx or xdm)
[05:31] <icedragon1> Is kubuntu the same as ubuntu with kde?
[05:31] <BKaj> yup
[05:31] <BKaj> or so I read
[05:31] <icedragon1> so if I have ubuntu installed with gnome now, and I want to switch to KDE, I could do that and my OS would effectively be Kubuntu?
[05:32] <Hawkwind> icedragon1: Yes.  It's all KDE based where as Ubuntu is all Gnome based, and Xubuntu is all Xfce based
[05:32] <BKaj> ubuntu uses gnome as the default desktop I think
[05:32] <Hawkwind> icedragon1: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <apol> icedragon1: yes, it is like this
[05:32] <icedragon1> man that's awesome
[05:32] <Hawkwind> icedragon1: That will bring in everything KDE related
[05:32] <icedragon1> I love it
[05:32] <icedragon1> I love you guys
[05:32] <icedragon1> what about getting rid of gnome?
[05:32] <Tommy2k4> can someone help me get kdm working again
[05:33] <Hawkwind> icedragon1: If you want Xfce, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:33] <Hawkwind> icedragon1: It will NOT remove Gnome
[05:33] <icedragon1> if I want to remove gnome, how would I do that?  apt-get remove gnome?
[05:33] <apol> Tommy2k4: why isn't it working?
[05:33] <icedragon1> should I ask in #ubuntu instead?
[05:33] <BKaj> Hawkwind: so you canhave the gnome option at login ?
[05:33] <Hawkwind> icedragon1: Not sure, but why would you want to ?  Just leave it installed incase KDE messes up and won't start.  That way you have another wm to boot to
[05:34] <icedragon1> Hawkwind, because of disk space :)
[05:34] <apol> icedragon1: remove ubuntu-desktop "i think"
[05:34] <Hawkwind> BKaj: You can have as many wm's at boot to choose from as you want
[05:34] <Tommy2k4> i did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop but didnt like it, so i tried to get kdm back to default with dpkg-reconfigure kdm which made no difference, so i apt-get remove gdm which wouldnt load X
[05:34] <Tommy2k4> when i startx it loads up xubuntu again
[05:34] <Hawkwind> icedragon1: I'd try apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:34] <Hawkwind> icedragon1: But I'd have backups first
[05:34] <icedragon1> yah I'll make sure kde works first
[05:34] <BKaj> Hawkwind: that sound very cool , what others are available ?
[05:34] <apol> you have to dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:34] <icedragon1> thank you BKaj, Hawkwind, and apol
[05:34] <Tommy2k4> it made no difference
[05:35] <Hawkwind> BKaj: There are many many wm's available.  fluxbox, windowmaker, enlightenment, E17, ratpoison, AfterStep, blackbox, openbox, and the list goes on and on
[05:35] <Tommy2k4> so i "sudo apt-get --purge remove kdm && sudo apt-get install kdm" which removed kdm but when trying to reinstall it it gave the errors at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18352
[05:35] <apol> Hawkwind: enlightment and e17 is the same
[05:35] <BKaj> really ...all ubuntu supported ?
[05:35] <Hawkwind> apol: No they are not
[05:36] <Hawkwind> apol: I use E17, it's completely different from enlightenment
[05:36] <icedragon1> I used fluxbox on my laptop before.  It's neat and lightweight, if that's what you're looking for, but you have to do some command-line editing IIRC
[05:36] <icedragon1> but that's usually the case anyways
[05:36] <Tommy2k4> hm i think kdm might be installed because apt-get install kdm again says i have newest version
[05:36] <apol> Hawkwind: e17 is the new version, its a development version actually
[05:36] <Hawkwind> E17 is a much newer and completely different version of enlightenment, which enlightenment is actually called E16
[05:36] <apol> Tommy2k4: lemme see
[05:36] <Hawkwind> apol: I know, I happen to be involved in development, thanks :)
[05:36] <Tommy2k4> ignore the device 168 errors (unless you know how to fix it) i get them no matter what i run from console
[05:37] <Hawkwind> apol: Again, enlightenment and E17 are two totally different wm's though.  They are NOTHING alike
[05:38] <apol> Tommy2k4: to fix these errors
[05:38] <apol> you have to remove some lines in xorg.conf
[05:38] <Tommy2k4> k which ones
[05:38] <lra_> hi
[05:38] <apol> which try to configure some pointing devices
[05:38] <lra_> what are the minimum specs for kubuntu?
[05:38] <apol> its explained somewhere in the wiki
[05:38] <Tommy2k4> !wiki
[05:38] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[05:39] <lra_> was that for me apol?
[05:40] <Tommy2k4> cant find anything in the wiki
[05:40] <Tommy2k4> not exactly sure what to look for thogh
[05:40] <apol> lra_: where do you want to install it?
[05:40] <lra_> onto a 450mhz 64mb ram laptop
[05:40] <apol> uh
[05:41] <lra_> is that a ni-way! ?
[05:41] <lra_> no-way
[05:41] <apol> lra_: if you try to, you will need to use the alternate install cd
[05:41] <lra_> ?
[05:41] <v3ctor> i am currently running it on a 500(499)MHz 128MB ram laptop
[05:42] <apol> yes, it is possible, but I haven't tried it
[05:42] <Hawkwind> KDE is going to run pretty slowly on that system.  You are probably better off with Xubuntu since Xfce is much lighter for systems like that
[05:42] <Tommy2k4> nope i cant find anything in the wiki about it
[05:42] <apol> if you find it too heavy, you might try xfce
[05:42] <apol> instead of kde
[05:42] <lra_> doesn't xfce look like gnome though?
[05:43] <apol> Tommy2k4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212025
[05:43] <apol> lra_: yes, but it is much more lighter
[05:43] <lra_> :( i hate the look of gnome. it looks like win 3.1 :(
[05:43] <Tommy2k4> ty
[05:45] <Hawkwind> lra_: Xfce doesn't really look like Gnome.  You can make it look anyway you want, just like with any other window manager
[05:46] <lra_> i xfce
[05:46] <Tommy2k4> k gonna try restarting X
[05:48] <doppelganger_> !ndiswrapper
[05:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> doppelganger_: If you are wanting to use ndiswrapper I would recommend downloading 1.21 from sourceforge
[05:49] <dmhouse> Is it possible to use PHP5 and PHP4 alongside each other on the same Apache?
[05:50] <h3sp4wn> dmhouse:Its possible (for different virtual hosts) but probably not worth the effort
[05:53] <Tommy2k4> hm
[05:53] <Tommy2k4> progress
[05:53] <Tommy2k4> xfce is still default session but i can login to kde now
[05:53] <Tommy2k4> but
[05:54] <Tommy2k4> there was a few errors about theme file not found
[05:54] <knob> h3sp4wn: i instalkled ndiswrapper and did all the business and got the usb wireless card working as we were discuessing a few days ago. now i'm coming from that laptop with the wireless but ever time u restart kubuntu u need to reprobe and then add the lan through the wireless assistant. does anyone know how to get it to save the settings@
[05:54] <Tommy2k4> and kicker has no applets on it
[05:54] <Tommy2k4> cant see what windows are open, no time no tray icons etc
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> knob: Do you have ndiswrapper in /etc/modules ?
[05:55] <knob> how would i know that
[05:55] <knob> just open up the directory?
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> knob: You are just doing sudo modprobe ndiswrapper each time then it works right ?
[05:55] <Tommy2k4> thanks to the person that showed me that thread on how to get rid of the inputdevice errors because it worked :)
[05:55] <knob> yup
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> knob: kdesu kate /etc/modules
[05:56] <h3sp4wn> knob: just add 'ndiswrapper' to the bottom of there
[05:56] <knob> when i run this  "kdesu kate /etc/modules" it says x server cannot be found?
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> Are you running kde ?
[05:57] <knob> yeh i am running it from KDE
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> sudo vim /etc/modules
[05:58] <Tommy2k4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18360
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> knob: actually just run sudo -i
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> knob: then
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> knob: echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules
[05:59] <knob> right
[05:59] <knob> i ran that command
[06:00] <knob> when it restarts ikt should now work ?? right ??
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> reboot and it should load ndiswrapper automatically
[06:00] <knob> nice one
[06:00] <knob> be back in 2 sevcs
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> I don't know (or want to know) anything about wireless assistant tho
[06:00] <knob> kk
[06:03] <will____> gnomefreak: you around?
[06:04] <soldier> sorry for the interruptin again
[06:04] <soldier> but i wanted to know if i can play call of duty on ubuntu dapper>?
[06:15] <will____> anyone here use amarok?
[06:16] <BKaj> I somehow ended up wit a corrupted synaptic , it wouldn't load the repos so I uninstalled it , now when i try to reinstall it thru ADEPT it won't install , so I tried to do so in the console , but i receive this message E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[06:17] <will____> BKaj: I had a similar problem.  open your source list in a text editor and delete all of the # signs on any line starting with deb
[06:17] <BKaj> ok thx
[06:18] <will____> BKaj: you know how to do that?
[06:18] <aliasfred> !source-o-matic
[06:18] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:18] <aliasfred> BKaj: the above url allows to easily produce a clean source.list
[06:19] <aliasfred> then to 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:19] <aliasfred> then 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[06:21] <flake> heidi hi hohos
[06:21] <flake> anyone try bf2/linux?
[06:21] <aliasfred> bf2=?
[06:21] <flake> battlefield 2
[06:22] <aliasfred> ok, no i havent
[06:22] <will____> ubotu: I decided to check out your link.  do you recommend checking all.  Any repos you don't recommend?
[06:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about I decided to check out your link.  do you recommend checking all.  Any repos you don't recommend? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:22] <flake> think it is directx
[06:23] <will____> ok.  Im an idiot.
[06:26] <flake> when wine says c:/program files, that's not really on the C: drive, right?
[06:27] <skavenge> you mean on your windows partition? no
[06:30] <flake> that's right, by default i can't write to them anyway
[06:30] <flake> sorry
[06:37] <BKaj> nope, synaptic won't install ,tried everything recommended here ...nothing will do it ...remains unchanged
[06:38] <BKaj> Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:38] <BKaj> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:38] <BKaj> is only available from another source
[06:38] <Hawkwind> BKaj: synaptic - Graphical package manager
[06:38] <Hawkwind> It's in the repos
[06:38] <BKaj> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:38] <BKaj> is only available from another source
[06:39] <Hawkwind> !info synaptic
[06:39] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.57.8ubuntu11 (dapper), package size 1011 kB, installed size 5384 kB
[06:39] <abattoir_> BKaj: it should be in main, afaik
[06:39] <BKaj> Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[06:39] <Hawkwind> It's in main :P
[06:39] <Hawkwind> abattoir_: Hah!  I beat ya to it this time :P
[06:39] <Lord_Athur> hi akk
[06:39] <abattoir_> Hawkwind: i was alteast faster than ubotu :P
[06:39] <Lord_Athur> Kaffeine can't detect my cd (a VCD), what can i do?
[06:39] <BKaj> what's main?
[06:40] <Hawkwind> abattoir_: Heh.  On my screen you weren't though.  Ever so slight lag I guess
[06:40] <Hawkwind> BKaj: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:40] <Hawkwind> BKaj: That should install it
[06:40] <BKaj> nope tried that
[06:40] <skavenge> its on your cd as well
[06:40] <abattoir_> BKaj: it is a repository which contains all the packages which come installed in your system by default
[06:40] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Then sounds like you need to enable some sources in your sources.list
[06:40] <Lord_Athur> is there another program designed to watch VCDs?
[06:41] <abattoir_> skavenge: i dont think all the packages in main(like ubuntu ones) will be present in a kubuntu cd
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> Lord_Athur: I use codeine
[06:41] <BKaj> Hawkwind:  what i posyed above is the response to, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:41] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Then sounds like you need to enable some sources in your sources.list
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> Lord_Athur: think kaffeine is a bit too much for just watching videos
[06:41] <skavenge> abattoir_: oh really, i thought the only difference on the cds was the wm?
[06:42] <Lord_Athur> hahaha, maybe h3sp4wn but if it can't be used for watching videos.....
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> Lord_Athur: of course it can
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> !info codeine
[06:42] <ubotu> codeine: video player for KDE designed to be as simple as possible. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 153 kB, installed size 544 kB
[06:42] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: What's the URL to your 2.6.17 kernel you posted here yesterday ?
[06:42] <abattoir_> BKaj: i'm pretty much sure 'synaptic' even though a main package would not be in a kubuntu cd... i could very much be mistaken, of course.. ;)
[06:43] <Lord_Athur> codeine can't detect the CD
[06:43] <Lord_Athur> :(
[06:43] <abattoir_> BKaj: sorry, the previous message was for skavenge
[06:43] <Lord_Athur> what else could it be?
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: It was 2.6.16 - and I wouldn't use it at this moment (its not got that security issue patched yet)
[06:44] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Ahhh ok.  I've got someone who just installed Kubuntu for a second time in a month and has issues when installing the 686 kernel for his SMP box.  He can use the 386 fine, but needs/wants the 686
[06:44] <Lord_Athur> I got it, Kaffeine could detect the cds, thanks all, bye
[06:44] <will____> BKaj: open adept package manager
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Is there a specific reason why he needs 2.6.17 ?
[06:45] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: No.  I thought it was 2.6.17 that I saw on the URL you posted yesterday
[06:46] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: He just needs to get SMP working, which if he installs the 686 kernel it locks up on boot at the Kubuntu splash screen
[06:46] <will____> BKaj: then from adept - manage repositories
[06:46] <Tommy2k4> if i have kopete on another desktop and i get a msg will it flash or anything to notify me (i have taskbar set to only show windows on current desktop)
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: It is 2.6.16 with realtime-preemption - (really is going to be for people who need low latency for sound stuff)
[06:47] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Ah ok.  Thanks for that information.  Maybe he can get the -26 686 kernel working for him somehow
[06:47] <BKaj> adept has only one repos
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Is it definately smp he is using not hyperthreading ?
[06:47] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Then you need to enable repos.  We told you this yesterday as well
[06:47] <abattoir_> Tommy2k4: if you have the system tray bubble notification thing, and you can see the kopete icon in the system tray, a bubble should pop when you get a new message
[06:48] <will____> BKaj: all the lines that start with deb should be black, the rest of the lines should be grey
[06:48] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: It's a system that has HT support, so he needs the SMP kernel
[06:48] <Tommy2k4> no but im sure i can configure it to bubble when i recieve a msg :) ty
[06:48] <will____> right click those lines (w/ deb) and enable
[06:48] <BKaj> there is only one repos listed in adept
[06:48] <Hawkwind> BKaj: So enable more
[06:48] <Hawkwind> !repos
[06:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:48] <Hawkwind> BKaj: ^^^^^^^^^^^
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Hyperthreading is a waste of time without using intels compiler afaik
[06:49] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: I have an HT system that I do nothing special with except install the 686 kernel on Kubuntu.  It's much quicker than using the 386 kernel which doesn't support SMP
[06:49] <Hawkwind> Especially when compiling or building packages.  It makes a big difference
[06:49] <will____> ok.  I need some similar help to what I am trying to give
[06:50] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: More than another real processor ?
[06:50] <BKaj> !easysource
[06:50] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:50] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Not more than a dual core system, no.  But it makes a big difference compared to just a single processor without HT/SMP support
[06:50] <will____> I am having trouble playing mp3s on both amarok or kaffeine (or anything)
[06:50] <will____> I have amarok/xine
[06:50] <Hawkwind> will____: You need the restricted formats page
[06:50] <Hawkwind> !restricted formats
[06:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:51] <will____> yah.  I went there
[06:51] <ivan255> bom  dia
[06:51] <BKaj> Hawkwind:  I fucked things up today by deleting all my repos when trying DL and install E17 :(
[06:51] <will____> Hawkwind: that says I need xine
[06:51] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Easy on the language please
[06:51] <Hawkwind> BKaj: You need to install E17 via CVS by compiling it.  That's the best way to do it.  Read http://get-e.org
[06:52] <BKaj> ok , trying not to get too angry at myself
[06:52] <will____> Hawkwind: i have xine.  however when I search for xine in adept installer it finds extra plugins for xine.  do i need this?
[06:52] <Hawkwind> will____: You've got to do everything on that page for mp3 support to work
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> BKaj: I am going to build some packages for it for edgy starting today (unofficial repo though)
[06:52] <Hawkwind> will____: I personally just installed everything on that page and everything plays now
[06:52] <DoppelGa1ger> yo doppelganger_ say bye bye
[06:52] <will____> Hawkwind: k I'll give it another shot
[06:53] <BKaj> nevermind E17 , it's obviously too complicated for my understanding at this point...just wanna get the rpos back and synaptic to the same sertup as previous to an hr ago :)
[06:53] <DoppelGa1ger> idiot
[06:54] <DoppelGanger> sup Hawkwind
[06:54] <abattoir_> will____: what error message do you get, if any ?
[06:54] <DoppelGanger> long time no torture
[06:56] <DoppelGanger> oh look fake doppelganger__ has returned
[07:04] <will____> Hawkwind: I know this is a popular problem today, but I can't find libxine-extracodecs in adept.  I have libxine-main installed and fully upgraded.
[07:04] <feydin> hi there, kde does not care about my choice what OS to boot next if i log off
[07:04] <feydin> im using grub
[07:04] <will____> Hawkwind: and I have the universe repos enabled (i think)
[07:05] <Hawkwind> It's in multiverse
[07:05] <Hawkwind> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:05] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:05] <feydin>  /boot is mounted.. any suggestions?
[07:05] <Hawkwind> will____: apt-cache policy libxine-extracodecs will give you such information
[07:06] <Hawkwind> will____: You'll discover I NEVER use the GUI tools for package management.  Much easier to do things from CLI, and it seems to work better
[07:06] <Tommy2k4> how do i turn off the fade-in on the tooltips of things in kicker
[07:06] <Tommy2k4> nvm got it
[07:07] <Tommy2k4> would be nice to have the same tooltips as normal bt without the animation
[07:07] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: You can.  It's in kcontrol
[07:08] <will____> Hawkwind: "installed: (none) canidate: none ..."
[07:08] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: Might even be an option if you right click on the kicker and go to settings
[07:08] <Hawkwind> will____: You need to enable multiverse, then sudo apt-get update
[07:09] <will____> Hawkwind: i think it is enabled?
[07:09] <Hawkwind> will____: If it was, you could install libxine-extracodecs then
[07:10] <will____> Hawkwind: how do I enable then
[07:10] <Hawkwind> !multiverse
[07:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:15] <gnomefreak> will____: you need to enable multiverse
[07:16] <Tommy2k4> any way to force all windows of specific apps onto a certain desktop
[07:16] <RogueX> Is there any advantage to using Nvidia drivers if you can live without GL?
[07:16] <grizzly> Tommy2k4: yes , but in my windowmanager enlightenment
[07:17] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: Composite makes it look alot clearer (on my lcd panel anyway)
[07:17] <Tommy2k4> in kde?
[07:18] <RogueX> Hello H3sp4wn good to see you again...  The problem is that every time I install them it totally wrecks my system.. Dell D800 Laptoppp
[07:18] <grizzly> Tommy2k4: well you can replace kdes window manager with enlightenment.
[07:19] <RogueX> H3sp4wn:  And I am frustrated to tell you how many times I have installed Kubuntu in the last week...  just to say some days it was 2 times... LOL
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: reinstalling anything is never a solution (I am running edgy and haven't had to reinstall (yet))
[07:20] <abattoir_> Tommy2k4: click on the icon in the windeco(the icon next to the title of the window)->Advanced->Special Application Settings
[07:20] <RogueX> H3sp4wn: And you are right the screen is very much clearer..
[07:21] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: With or without composite ?
[07:21] <gatekeeper> RogueX, why do you keep reinstalling?
[07:21] <RogueX> H3sp4wn: With composite...
[07:21] <Harmental> hi everybody...
[07:22] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: So how do you know that if its not working ? has it worked before or ?
[07:22] <Harmental> i have a question....how can we set programs that requiere root rights to automatically start at boot (im thinking of firestarter)
[07:22] <RogueX> gatekeeper: because it's so much fun?  LOL no just kidding.. because I would get it to the point that X would not run trying to fix Xorg.conf... LOL
[07:23] <Tommy2k4> thanks abattoir
[07:23] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: because it would run in 1650x ??  and not in 1920x1200 like it was suppose to but everything was MUCH clearer...
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: 1920x1200 ? Have you setup the modelines properly ?
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> !fixvideores
[07:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about fixvideores - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> !fixvideo
[07:24] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:24] <RogueX> gatekeeper:  And because I would install packages and mess it up like it crashed when I upgraded to KDE 3.5.4
[07:27] <gatekeeper> RogueX, in the case xorg.conf I would make a copy of the file which you could go back to when it all went wrong, as for KDE 3.5.4 unless it has something you really need that the present version doesn't then there is no point
[07:28] <Tommy2k4> can i make it so if im on desktop1 and i open an app thats forced to desktop 4 it will activate desktop 4
[07:28] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I have tried everything I could.  Followed all the stuff online that I could find... the few times that I got it to work it was unstable... :(  restart the laptop and it would go back to the other mode
[07:29] <gatekeeper> RogueX, if you look on the forums there is backup howto which would be quicker than reinstalling
[07:29] <RogueX> gatekeeper:  Understand..  just thought no big deal.. its out so upgrade.. LOLll
[07:29] <RogueX> gatekeeper:  that is definatly what I need to find.  (grin)
[07:31] <RogueX> gatekeeper:  I can say that I am an expert now getting the  base install done now in record time... even to the point I started a bash script to do half the changes for me. LOL
[07:32] <gatekeeper> RogueX, whatever floats your boat :-) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[07:32] <RogueX> gatekeeper:  what I dont like to doing is using Automatix and EasyUbuntu because I dont know what it's installing I but then I dont know what packages to install without them to get things running... catch 22
[07:33] <RogueX> gatekeeper:  I would rather not.  But have been going with what I could do.  :)
[07:36] <gatekeeper> RogueX, I don't use them because they are more trouble than they are worth, (asking for trouble) I install exactly what I need manual using apt-get/synaptic. Got some usefull links on my little home page: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[07:36] <RogueX> gatekeeper:  It's like there is no way of knowing what packages you need to get video running not just the player.. example... to get one video to play I found I needed to install w32codec
[07:37] <Wolfpaw> hiho
[07:37] <RogueX> gatekeeper: then later I found something else that wouldnt run until I had installed something called libxine-extracodecs
[07:37] <BKaj> what's the cmd to edit the sources list ?
[07:37] <gatekeeper> RogueX, have a look at those links and ubuntu wiki site
[07:38] <RogueX> BKaj: vim or Kate will work
[07:38] <BKaj> yes RogueX, but what;s the cmd, I need to be sudo
[07:38] <BKaj> other wise i can't save the edit
[07:39] <BKaj> using kate
[07:39] <RogueX> BKaj:  you can do a sudo bash
[07:39] <RogueX> BKaj:then your root in the window
[07:39] <gatekeeper> RogueX, I have installed  libxine-extracodecs  w32codec and realplayer 10 that so far covers all my needs with the other media packages installed by default
[07:40] <BKaj> then, edit "sources list"  ?
[07:40] <RogueX> Bjaj:yep that would be it
[07:40] <RogueX> Bkaj:or you can edit them from inside of Apt-get
[07:42] <gatekeeper> BKaj, go to Run Command... kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list or from the cli sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:42] <RogueX> gatekeeper: thanks guess I should have been more clear.. :0
[07:43] <RogueX> gatekeeper: what about packages libarts1-mpeglib or libakode2-mpeg?
[07:44] <gatekeeper> RogueX, haven't had a need for them
[07:44] <BKaj> gatekeeper:  ok thx it worked
[07:45] <gatekeeper> BKaj, yw :-)
[07:46] <Flosoft> hey
[07:46] <Flosoft> is there anyone who knows something about LVM?
[07:46] <gatekeeper> RogueX, only install what you need to get what you want working, only installed realplayer 10 because the BBC insist on using that format, otherwise I would not have done so
[07:47] <RogueX> gatekeeper: thats the way I like it too... I even uninstall all the packages that I know I dont want to unclutter things in KDE :)
[07:47] <BKaj> ok, now all I need to do is get synaptic reinstalled but there's something blocking it
[07:47] <RogueX> gatekeeper:but if you dont know what does what to get something done thats not easy to doooo
[07:48] <Tommy2k4> how do i stop sendmail trying to run on bootup? ive apt-get remove sendmail and rm /etc/init.d/sendmail but it still tries
[07:49] <trappist> Tommy2k4: man update-rc.d
[07:49] <BKaj> anyone have an idea what this might be  ? "synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[07:50] <gatekeeper> RogueX, that is why there is a ubuntu wiki site forums & irc, if in doubt ask first
[07:50] <RogueX> gatekeeper: is the some quick and easy howto for IRC that would tell me things like how to change color or to register so you can private message?
[07:50] <ironfroggy> how can i query if a service in /etc/init.d/ is currently running?
[07:50] <aliasfred> BKaj: as said previously :) regenerate clean source list, do apt-get update then apt-get install synaptic :)
[07:50] <aliasfred> !source-o-matic
[07:50] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:50] <RogueX> gatekeeper: I get the register instructions but I dont get them
[07:50] <Tommy2k4> ty trappist
[07:51] <gatekeeper> RogueX, not sure, others might
[07:51] <RogueX> gatekeeper: for example how did you change your text color?
[07:52] <RogueX> gatekeeper: I see your replies in Red... is everyone seeing red or just me?
[07:52] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I connect to my WPA-PSK protected wireless network?
[07:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Like this, RogueX?
[07:53] <RogueX> Milhouse:  LOL yes
[07:53] <MilhousePunkRock> That's when someone says your name, RogueX
[07:54] <BKaj> ok aliasfred, my memory sucks , thx , doing the update now
[07:54] <gatekeeper> RogueX, you see it in red because your name is in the reply so it is red to stand out, there will be a menu item called configure or settings depending what you are using
[07:54] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: so if you type the name with a colon it does that auto?  is there anyway to short type long names such as yours? LOL
[07:54] <RogueX> gatekeeper: using Konversationn
[07:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Yes, type the first few letters and use the tab key, RogueX
[07:55] <gatekeeper> BKaj, if you have done an update with clean sources and still have trouble then you can try: sudo killall apt-get
[07:55] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: AWESOME!  LOL I have been putting my typeing skills to the test to keep up here!
[07:55] <MilhousePunkRock> RogueX: It even makes the colon for you if you start with the name and press tab
[07:55] <gatekeeper> RogueX, configure konversation
[07:56] <RogueX> gatekeeper: Thanks!
[07:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Took me a while to figure that out too, RogueX
[07:56] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: does everyone see the reply too??
[07:56] <gatekeeper> RogueX, if i was on my other machine i could tell you which menu it is in but i am not :-)
[07:56] <RogueX> gatekeeper: np problem I can wing it.. :)
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> The reply yes, but not in red, RogueX
[07:57] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: Cool
[07:57] <RogueX> Anyone know how to check if your nick is verified???
[07:57] <BKaj> try pm
[07:58] <RogueX> pm
[07:58] <RogueX> pm?
[07:58] <BKaj> privte message someone
[07:58] <BKaj> if it's verified youcan chat privately
[07:58] <RogueX> BKaj: I tried that it says no..
[07:59] <BKaj> then you need verification
[07:59] <RogueX> BKaj: but I went through the process so I must have did something wrong I guess....
[08:00] <aliasfred> RogueX: when you do 'whois thenicknameofthepersonn' you will see 'n=' or 'i=' in front of it. n is for not identified, and 'i=' is for identified
[08:00] <RogueX> I am trying to go from windows power user to Linux only ... NOT easy! LOL
[08:01] <aliasfred> RogueX: what is the nickname you want to check
[08:01] <gatekeeper> RogueX, there is a transition guide on my little home page the url I gave you earlier
[08:01] <RogueX> aliasfred: Mine... LOL
[08:01] <RogueX> gatekeeper: I am looking at it now..
[08:02] <RogueX> gatekeeper: I am a Windows power user and I am use to getting my way.. lol  Linux is not nice that way.... LOL
[08:02] <aliasfred> n=Rogue@151.196.192.50 <- you are not identified
[08:03] <gatekeeper> RogueX, it is much better than windows, but like everything you need to learn it
[08:03] <gatekeeper> linux that is
[08:03] <RogueX> aliasfred: so I am totally new to this IRC thing... just landed here by using Kubuntu..
[08:04] <aliasfred> thus people will have the same trouble to do the linux->window that window->linux
[08:04] <gatekeeper> RogueX, windows takes control away from you, linux gives it back to you
[08:04] <aliasfred> personnally i have to do the linux->window and it is very painfull too
[08:04] <centyx> RogueX: leave while you can. IRC is EVIIIIIIIIILE!
[08:04] <RogueX> gatekeeper: I love it when it is working.. but the Xorg.conf thing for the last two weeks had me ready to throw the laptop out the window yesterday.  I had to put it in the desk and come back a couple hrs later
[08:05] <RogueX> centyx: So far IRC is rocking.. these guys in here are awesome... gatekeeper and H3sp4n!
[08:05] <centyx> RogueX: ;)
[08:05] <gatekeeper> RogueX, persistence is usually rewarded :-)
[08:07] <MilhousePunkRock> RogueX: The same happened to me, I figured this would be much faster to solve problems than posting on some forum
[08:07] <gatekeeper> RogueX, :-)
[08:07] <RogueX> gatekeeper: Funny thing is I have been using linux for work for over 10 years now this is the first time I have tried to use it for personal use... how do you like that.. lol  I started with SLAK no gui
[08:10] <gatekeeper> RogueX, well I haven't been using linux that long, and still learning a lot, you should be much more of an expert than me :-)
[08:11] <RogueX> gatekeeper: No I just used it for exactly what I needed... work stuff not regular..  all network centric console stuff...  this GUI stuff is showing me a thing or 2
[08:11] <centyx> hrm.
[08:12] <centyx> anyone know how to add to the list of fonts you can select from in Konsole?
[08:12] <BKaj> ok, synaptic is installed in read only mode ...can't use it unless I'm root ...how do get root ?
[08:12] <RogueX> gatekeeper: And vmware ROCKS with Linux... safety net...
[08:12] <RogueX> BKaj: sudo bash in xterm
[08:12] <gatekeeper> BKaj, not in your menu?
[08:13] <BKaj> not in menu
[08:13] <RogueX> gatekeeper: sorry keep forgetting menus.... so use to command line...
[08:13] <RogueX> gatekeeper: I live in xterm 1/2 the time
[08:14] <will____> anyone here use firefox and gmail?
[08:14] <gatekeeper> BKaj, manually add it command: kdesu synaptic dialog will ask for password when you start it
[08:14] <gatekeeper> will____, yes both
[08:15] <BKaj> ok did kdesu synaptic in the run cmd and it worked
[08:15] <will____> gatekeeper: cool.  do you have to individually load jpgs in emails?
[08:15] <will____> gatekeeper: is there a way to make them work in the email itself
[08:15] <gatekeeper> RogueX, for gui use Run Command.. kde su whatever
[08:15] <BKaj> I figgerd it might
[08:16] <Tommy2k4> how come if i delete a file thats playing in kaffeine it will still play
[08:16] <gatekeeper> will____, not sure I understand the question attach them?
[08:18] <RogueX> gatekeeper: Jeez never even noticed that.. I am learning by leaps and bounds.
[08:18] <RogueX> Root:  NOT GOOD
[08:19] <Cntryboy> Anyone know where I can get codec pack for kaffeine?
[08:19] <RogueX> abattoir: if your running as root GO CHANGE
[08:19] <Endrigo_Araujo> how to connect to brasnet?
[08:19] <gatekeeper> RogueX, cool :-)
[08:19] <abattoir> RogueX: chill :)
[08:19] <h3sp4wn> Cntryboy: debian-multimedia
[08:19] <Endrigo_Araujo> anyone knows?
[08:19] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, which one?
[08:20] <Cntryboy> I have vlc, but even if I make each thing play with it, still pops up with annoying kaffeine by default, so where can I get codec pack for it?
[08:20] <RogueX> abattoir: ok...  just thought I would warn..
[08:20] <RogueX> abattoir: :)
[08:21] <will____> gatekeeper: I get emails with photo boxes. but the photos don't load.  I can go to the bottom of the email and open the attached pics automatically, but was wondering if there was a way to make it load the photos WITHIN the email upon opening the email
[08:21] <Endrigo_Araujo> anyone from Brazil?
[08:21] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, that sounds like the file association is incorrectly set up
[08:21] <will____> gatekeeper: replace automatically with manually
[08:21] <jfrcortez> #c++-es
[08:21] <Cntryboy> ???
[08:21] <RogueX> Anyone have formatting problems with Firefox
[08:22] <Lynoure> RogueX: What formating, when printing, with all webpages, with some particular or something else?
[08:22] <Cntryboy> gatekeeper: I click open with vlc, then at bottom i click the box to always use it with this file association.. it updates, but never works
[08:23] <RogueX> Lynoure: with some pages I get text overlapping other text.
[08:23] <gatekeeper> will____, windows outlook is the only one I know that has that feature (along with free viruses :-) ) others might know otherwise
[08:23] <Cntryboy> so does anyone know where codec pack is for kaffiene
[08:23] <Lynoure> RogueX: Can you give an example of such page?
[08:23] <trappist> will____: what email client?
[08:23] <Cntryboy> h3spa3wn: sorry didn't see urs, so debian-multimedia is that it?
[08:24] <RogueX> will____: I can get images to display in email with a setting in Thunderbird... dont know if thats what you want.
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> Cntryboy: If you are looking for w32codecs that has it
[08:24] <Cntryboy> h3sp4wn: rather
[08:24] <trappist> in kmail it's view->attachments->inline
[08:24] <RogueX> Lynoure: www.break.com is one I use to try things out because there is a lot of stuff on there.
[08:25] <Cntryboy> h3sp4wn: ive also noticed with kaffeine I have no sounds, is that because I need audio codec also?
[08:25] <Cntryboy> speaker is slashed even if mute is off
[08:25] <Lynoure> RogueX: nomen ist omen or how does it go...
[08:25] <h3sp4wn> Cntryboy: you probably need libxine-extracodecs
[08:25] <RogueX> Lynoure: ??
[08:26] <Cntryboy> h3sp4wn: whats the difference in the first ones and the 2nd ones u just gave?
[08:26] <BKaj> Ok, in oreder to DL E17 from CVS sources the sources list must be edited and the cvs sources added ...is this correct ?
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> BKaj: Which repository are you trying to use ?
[08:27] <Lynoure> RogueX: It'd be funny but non-ironic if break.com broke. But it does not on my FF, unless I increase the text size about five times
[08:27] <BKaj> cvs
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> sources.list is nothing to do with cvs
[08:28] <RogueX> Lynoure: :)  ok  the tabs on the page go across and then the last tab goes to the next line over the text.  On windows box with FF no problem
[08:28] <will____> gatekeeper: im just using the gmail website in firefox
[08:28] <BKaj> ok, what is it
[08:28] <abattoir> !br
[08:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:28] <BKaj> ?
[08:28] <will____> gatekeeper: do you recommend otherwise?
[08:28] <gatekeeper> trappist, thanx kmail info usefull tip bit
[08:28] <abattoir> Endrigo_Araujo: maybe someone there ^^^^
[08:28] <BKaj> BBL
[08:28] <RogueX> gatekeeper: Thunderbird has the same switch also
[08:28] <Lynoure> RogueX: That sounds pretty much what I get with a significant font size increase... hmm.
[08:29] <will____> gatekeeper: when I used gmail (website) with windows the photos came up
[08:29] <RogueX> Lynoure: I thought the same but I still have it at the default setting of 9 I think.
[08:30] <Lynoure> RogueX: try ctrl+0 to make sure, but I think with size like this you'd notice it being quite big
[08:30] <centyx> anyone know how to add the list of fonts konsole can use?
[08:31] <gatekeeper> will____, RogueX says you can use Thunderbird and trappist has give you the kmail tip bit, I guess it's what takes your fancy, think you can gmail from a pop3 client although I never tried to set it up, think there is a howto in the ubuntu forums
[08:31] <idonthack> hello
[08:31] <trappist> centyx: it should be able to use any monospace font you have installed
[08:32] <RogueX> Lynoure: I just tried ctrl + ) nothing happend.. also the page comes up right for a sec then readjusts to overlap
[08:32] <centyx> trappist: ok thanks
[08:32] <idonthack> i've tried to install kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu, but i get an error. is this the right room to discuss that?
[08:32] <abattoir> idonthack: sure. what is the error?
[08:33] <will____> thanks guys.  I'll play around with your suggestions a bit
[08:33] <idonthack> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:33] <idonthack>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[08:33] <idonthack> E: Broken packages
[08:33] <gatekeeper> will____, which browser did you use in windows?
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> idonthack: Don't use unofficial repositories
[08:33] <Cntryboy> h3sp4wn: so whats the difference in the 2 codec packages u told me about?
[08:33] <Cntryboy> I have 2.1KB I need to know b4 I waste time and hours for wrong thing :(
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> libxine-extracodecs is really all you should need
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> (w32codecs is support for all the windows stuff that isn't supported any other way)
[08:35] <idonthack> h3sp4n: i'm pretty sure i'm running only official repos, but where can i get a list of them to check?
[08:35] <idonthack> or how can i revert?
[08:35] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, those 2 codecs are the only ones I use, seems to cover most stuff
[08:35] <centyx> trappist: this is a stupid question, but do you know of any monospace fonts that can correctly display ansi characters such as were used in the gaudy BitchX themes etc? I ported a BitchX theme to irssi a long time ago, and I'd like to keep using it.
[08:36] <Cntryboy> okay thx
[08:37] <chx> something almost constantly writes to my HDD ( 0  0 108944 201772  43008 309332    0    0     0   108  392  1754  7  1 92  0 a line from vmstat -- note that 108)
[08:37] <chx> how can I find out which process so I can shoot it down?
[08:38] <trappist> centyx: no, I don't know much about that stuff
[08:38] <gatekeeper> !repositories
[08:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:38] <centyx> trappist: me either ;) thanks anyway
[08:38] <lucky> Hi.  I am having problems playing flac files in amarok 1.4.1 that was offered on the kubuntu site.  Apparently its a bug in amarok + libxine.  Its apparently been fixed in a newer version of libxine.  Is there some way to file  a bug report for kubuntu or how do i use another backend with amarok 1.4.1 ?
[08:38] <gatekeeper> idonthack, ^^^
[08:39] <centyx> lucky: you can install xine 1.1.2
[08:39] <Lynoure> RogueX: I'm too lazy to troubleshoot it further now... My FF is 1.5.0.4 btw
[08:39] <makinvaja> hello
[08:39] <lucky> centyx: how do i do that?
[08:39] <idonthack> kk thanks
[08:39] <abattoir> RogueX: thanks for your concern though :P
[08:39] <Cntryboy> mmm
[08:39] <RogueX> Lynoure: ok thanks anyway
[08:39] <Cntryboy> both are those packages aren't in my sources
[08:39] <makinvaja> um
[08:39] <Cntryboy> do I have to add special source lines?
[08:40] <Cntryboy> urls rather
[08:40] <makinvaja> somebody knows something about video?
[08:40] <RogueX> abattoir: no problem was just wanting help
[08:40] <makinvaja> I mean
[08:40] <centyx> lucky: n/m it'd probably be best to just wait until ubuntu/kubuntu releases a package for it
[08:40] <makinvaja> how can i know what codec uses a video file?
[08:41] <lucky> centyx: any idea when that would be ? :/
[08:41] <makinvaja> I know in Windows (Gspot) but not in linux
[08:41] <Cntryboy> h3sp3wn: What url do I need to add in my source.list to get these codecs?
[08:41] <trappist> lucky: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[08:41] <trappist> lucky: to file bugreports
[08:41] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home have look here
[08:41] <lucky> trappist: thanks
[08:41] <centyx> lucky: no idea, sorry
[08:41] <Cntryboy> k
[08:41] <lucky> i'll do that
[08:41] <h3sp4wn> Cntryboy: enable multiverse - will be commented out
[08:41] <centyx> afk
[08:42] <Lynoure> RogueX: Just quit my job in QA and it being a web team, been troubleshooting stuff like this occasionally for the job. Usually takes being there or a vnc or similar to find the reason... And I'm so happy to be free of web layout bug troubleshooting :)
[08:42] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, there is a wget command for the w32codecs on that url I gave you
[08:42] <Cntryboy> yes I know dling it now
[08:42] <RogueX> Lynoure: I understand that.. :)
[08:42] <Cntryboy> what about extracodecs?
[08:43] <h3sp4wn>  http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[08:43] <makinvaja> Cntryboy: is to me?
[08:43] <ivis> Hi where i can get cool desklets for gnome ? please help
[08:43] <h3sp4wn> cntryboy: libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse
[08:43] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, as h3sp4wn you need to enable the correct repos, info is also there
[08:43] <abattoir> ivis: gdesklets.org ?
[08:43] <makinvaja> ah, i suposse not
[08:43] <h3sp4wn> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:43] <abattoir> ivis: people at #ubuntu might know better though
[08:43] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:43] <Cntryboy> all my repos are enabled for multiverse
[08:43] <ivis> ok thanks
[08:44] <makinvaja> ok, again .... somebody know how to discover which codec uses a file? (like Gspot in windows), (later i would need to convert this file to a code supported by my home dvd player)
[08:45] <Cntryboy> all i know is my multiverse is enabled
[08:45] <Cntryboy> multi/unver both are
[08:47] <idonthack> i have removed all unofficial repositories and enabled all of the official ubuntu repositories when trying to install kubuntu-desktop. i get the same error. it appears to be a problem with libpoppler1-qt: it requires 0.5.1-0ubuntu7 of libpoppler1, but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is in the repository
[08:49] <h3sp4wn> idonthack: apt-cache policy libpoppler1-qt
[08:49] <funky_munky> hello
[08:49] <idonthack> libpoppler1-qt:
[08:49] <idonthack>   Installed: (none)
[08:49] <idonthack>   Candidate: 0.5.1-0ubuntu7
[08:49] <idonthack>   Version table:
[08:49] <idonthack>      0.5.1-0ubuntu7 0
[08:49] <idonthack>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[08:51] <funky_munky> can anyone here help me to learn how to import data file into openoffice's calc limited 65536 rows or how to reduce my text file to something manageable using perl?
[08:56] <idonthack> sooo.... any ideas, h3sp4wn? or someone else?
[08:58] <gatekeeper> idonthack, the only thing i can think of is to see if there are any devlopers in #ubuntu + 1 who might be aqble to help you, some times they come in here
[08:58] <idonthack> ok
[08:59] <Cntryboy> back
[09:00] <bent> Hey again. I've restarted my computer, but it is still complaning that something is using apt-get.
[09:00] <Cntryboy> gatekeeper: on that page you sent me where exactly is it talking about libxine-extracodecs?
[09:00] <Cntryboy> small txt stuff I can barely make it out
[09:01] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, that package is in the repos
[09:01] <Cntryboy> gatekeeper not for me it's not
[09:01] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, if i was on my other machine i could tell which repos
[09:01] <Cntryboy> ive dl'ed everything under the sun for multiverse.. unless I have to manually add a link to source.list I should have it
[09:01] <Tommy2k4> how do i disable bluetooth? seems pointless having it running when i will never use it
[09:02] <admiral_proFTW> Tommy2k4, uninstall it?
[09:02] <Tommy2k4> good idea
[09:02] <Cntryboy> gatekeeper: thats okay, but that site u sent me to u said it shows me how there, what link to that page?
[09:02] <gatekeeper> let us take a look at sources.list, pop it into pastebin
[09:03] <admiral_proFTW> Tommy2k4, that was the answer I got when i asked the same question
[09:03] <trident523> I've restarted my computer, but it is still complaning that something is using apt-get. And, I have no clue what else could be using it.
[09:03] <Healot> you can simply remove bluetooth packages
[09:04] <Cntryboy> ok
[09:04] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, use kdesu kate not sudo gedit, this will give you all the repos you need it is what I use: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:05] <h3sp4wn> idonthack: sudo apt-get install  libpoppler1-qt=0.5.1-0ubuntu7
[09:05] <idonthack> h3sp4wn, did not work. it says:  libpoppler1-qt: Depends: libpoppler1 (= 0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[09:06] <idonthack> should i do the same command with libpoppler1=0.5.1-0ubuntu7 first and then try to install libpoppler1-qt?
[09:06] <centyx> does anyone here have a microsoft wireless optical mouse 2.0?
[09:06] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217592
[09:07] <centyx> i wanna know if the scroll wheel is supposed to click like a third buttom
[09:07] <h3sp4wn> idonthack: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libpoppler1-qt=0.5.1-0ubuntu7
[09:07] <centyx> s/buttom/button
[09:07] <Cntryboy> js im pasting my sourcelist for u
[09:07] <Cntryboy> 2.1KB
[09:07] <admiral_proFTW> centyx, yes
[09:07] <Cntryboy> i can't go to thread to thread like u, takes me 10 min
[09:07] <trident523> centyx: Mine does, but I dont know if it's a 2.0
[09:07] <idonthack> same error
[09:07] <admiral_proFTW> it depends on the mouse really
[09:07] <admiral_proFTW> some have horizontal click
[09:08] <admiral_proFTW> for the scroll button
[09:08] <idonthack> the -qt version isn't installed in the first place so i don't know what you're expecting with --reinstall
[09:08] <centyx> admiral_proFTW: i had to put mine back together after my wife's boss literally threw his away ( across the parking lot ) and i don't think i've got it put together right :P
[09:08] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, wooow just found it went straight to it
[09:08] <admiral_proFTW> centyx, hmm
[09:08] <centyx> it's a pain to not have the scroll wheel act as a third button when you're in firefox and trying to autoscroll
[09:08] <centyx> admiral_proFTW: it scrolls, it just doesn't click
[09:09] <admiral_proFTW> i once took apart a scroll mouse and couldn't put it back togetehre
[09:09] <admiral_proFTW> centyx, i get you. and yes that does seem like a pain
[09:10] <h3sp4wn> idonthack: sudo apt-get remove --purge libpoppler1
[09:10] <centyx> i'll take it apart and try again
[09:10] <centyx> admiral_proFTW: have you got the tilt wheel to work in linux?
[09:11] <admiral_proFTW> i dont have one, but my friend does
[09:11] <idonthack> hmmm. h3sp4wn that will remove things i want to keep, like cups
[09:11] <admiral_proFTW> and it works
[09:11] <centyx> ah
[09:11] <Cntryboy_> grr I hate freaking dialup bs
[09:11] <h3sp4wn> idonthack: just remove them anyway (when you install kubuntu-desktop it will put them back)
[09:11] <centyx> admiral_proFTW: this one tilts
[09:11] <idonthack> ook
[09:12] <Cntryboy> stupid pastebin.ca won't load
[09:12] <Cntryboy> pastebin.com wont load
[09:12] <admiral_proFTW> it should work. I say should, because I know of at least one that works
[09:12] <Cntryboy> I hate stupid sites that don't work good with dialup
[09:12] <h3sp4wn> idonthack: Dont use purge if you want to keep cups
[09:12] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, no broadband available?
[09:12] <idonthack> ok kubuntu-desktop is installing now
[09:13] <Cntryboy> 4 min down the road, but the cheapos won't bring it down this road
[09:13] <Cntryboy> :(
[09:13] <Cntryboy> Im stressed I need to toke a sec
[09:13] <Cntryboy> I feel like throwing this pos out the winder
[09:14] <h3sp4wn> Cntryboy: Maybe download the dvd from work or something (it has packages for the whole of main on it)
[09:16] <Cntryboy> well I want to download the dvd, but someone told me for example I have like updates I need to get but can't, anyways they told me the dvd wouldn't have the updates why not?
[09:16] <Cntryboy> when i go to mom/dads house i'll prob get it, what do u mean in the (    ) I didn't follow that
[09:17] <Cntryboy> btw heres my source
[09:17] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.com/752400
[09:17] <h3sp4wn> Cntryboy: You will still need the security updates
[09:17] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: The CD/DVD was made a while back, so there are always going to be updates online that you need to get
[09:17] <Cntryboy> toked, now ready for some skoal :)
[09:17] <Cntryboy> when will 6.07 dapper come out
[09:17] <Cntryboy> or what ever the next version is
[09:18] <Healot> 6.10 >> 10-2006
[09:19] <gatekeeper> hmmm pastebin on go sloooow
[09:19] <grizzly> !kernel
[09:19] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:19] <Cntryboy> U know gang I do like linux, I really do. But it's so fustrating at time when ur a noob. I hate problems, but yet I hate windows lol..
[09:19] <Cntryboy> this wouldn't be so bad If I had broadband, but downloading 1mb in 12min-16 min just sucks
[09:19] <Hawkwind> Then get a better ISP
[09:19] <Healot> Cntryboy: get an Apple then :-)
[09:20] <Cntryboy> yack @ apple
[09:20] <grizzly> would this: http://www.suspend2.net/downloads/all/suspend2-2.2-rc16-for-2.6.15.tar.bz2 , be the correct package to use in dapper?
[09:20] <Cntryboy> I hate those worst
[09:20] <Cntryboy> lol
[09:20] <Cntryboy> healot: no offense if you have an apple
[09:21] <Cntryboy> only thing I liked about apples was because I could play gold digger, old old game lol
[09:21] <Cntryboy> be nice if I could find one for linux just like that
[09:21] <Cntryboy> lol
[09:21] <Healot> Cntryboy: or you suck at using a computer and operating systems :)
[09:21] <Cntryboy> how would you get that out of me hating apples?
[09:21] <BKaj> Cntryboy: have you considered an internet dish ISP service?...mucho buckoes but it beats dialup
[09:22] <Cntryboy> i have no probs in windows, linux well I haven't used it that long lol, apples don't have a lot of software for it..
[09:22] <Hawkwind> Satellite is equal to dial-up as they limit your download speed to the same speeds of dial-up
[09:22] <Hawkwind> So you're better off staying with dial-up and paying the cheaper price
[09:22] <Healot> Cntryboy: not because you're a hater, you just showed you suck when it comes to operating systems and computers :)
[09:22] <BKaj> maybe in the US , Hawkwind
[09:22] <Cntryboy> BKaj: yah I called about one, they wanted 600 for installation and 79 a month. And from what I read only profess. packages is around 1mb while up is 14KB lol. and pings sux
[09:23] <Cntryboy> Healot: hows that? I do suck at linux thats an obvious one.. but how would u get that from windows or apples?
[09:23] <BKaj> wow, you in the US Cntryboy
[09:23] <Cntryboy> BKaj: yes
[09:23] <Cntryboy> Tennessee
[09:23] <Cntryboy> usa
[09:23] <BKaj> ok, that's too bad
[09:24] <Cntryboy> dual isdn wouldn't be too bad, but it cost more than dsl/cable around here lol
[09:24] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, pastebin doesn't seem to want to load for me, might have to ask one of the others to check it for sorry :-(
[09:25] <BKaj> Canada here, there a dish service here exclusive for internet , 2MB down 300Kb up , no landlines needed 67US/mo
[09:25] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: Use pastebin.ca instead of pastebin.com
[09:25] <Cntryboy> gatekeeper: yah it took me from the time u asked me until when i pasted it
[09:25] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: I usually do, but it wouldn't load at all today
[09:25] <Cntryboy> I can try now js
[09:25] <Hawkwind> BKaj: That's NUTS!!!!!!!!!!  I pay $50 for 8Mb/512K
[09:26] <BKaj> well when yer in the boonies you pay
[09:26] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: u got cable or dsl
[09:26] <Cntryboy> thats about what my dad gets
[09:26] <BKaj> I pay 50cdn for 6mb down and 700kb up
[09:26] <Cntryboy> but ive dl'ed at 10mb b4
[09:26] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: Cable.  DSL is as slow as dial-up compared to what I have :P
[09:26] <Cntryboy> u have comcast I take it?
[09:26] <Cntryboy> what dad has
[09:26] <Cntryboy> for same price and speeds
[09:27] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: No.  I have Time Warner/Road Runner
[09:27] <Cntryboy> ahh oka
[09:27] <Hawkwind> Comcast is probably the worst ISP other than AOL
[09:27] <Cntryboy> road runner in the day I had friends that used to uncapp it
[09:27] <BKaj> fibre eh ?
[09:27] <Cntryboy> when it used to be capped
[09:27] <Cntryboy> but can't do that now days I don't guess
[09:27] <Cntryboy> yah pastebin.ca is usually fast as lighting for this slow dialup, but today it won't load at all for me
[09:28] <Hawkwind> I'm hoping we get FiOS here soon.  They have a 50MB package they offer for $40 a month
[09:28] <Cntryboy> nice
[09:28] <doppelganger_> !qt
[09:28] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[09:28] <BKaj> where is that Hawkwind?
[09:28] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Houston, Texas
[09:28] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, you have definately got probs with nyour repos, use the repos here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories comment out non free
[09:28] <Cntryboy> comcast offers the speeds u have now for 19 a month for 6 months, prob what ill get when and if i move
[09:29] <BKaj> FiOS is really spotty ..here and there but no real plan it seems
[09:29] <Cntryboy> gatekeeper: how ya know if u didn't look at my sources.list
[09:31] <gatekeeper> Cntryboy, pastebin just loaded, off out now so have to hand you over to one of the others
[09:41] <RogueX> anyone know why I would not be able to chown on a file?
[09:41] <trident523> I've restarted my computer, but it is still complaning that something is using apt-get.
[09:46] <MehAdult> Hawkwind: FIOS would be nice, but I doubt it'll be out for a while.
[09:46] <MehAdult> It's only in 6 states I think, last I checked.
[09:48] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: i saw that captorials put up a screenkast showing how to install screenkast on kubuntu.
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: Do you know what I got it working - but my dapper chroot I was making it in was polluted (by me updating libc and udev )
[09:50] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: oh.  what did you do to get it working?
[09:50] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: they have packages for both up now.
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: I have been trying to repeat it on and off for a while
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: I built ffmpeg from svn with almost everything enabled
[09:52] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: i see.
[09:52] <lmosher> So I just booted kubuntu for my 2nd time. I had installed firefox last time and it worked fine. Now whenever I type in a dialog box firefox freezes after the first letter
[09:53] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: I can't figure out properly at what point it was working
[09:53] <lmosher> The address bar is fine, but if I type in a text box or in the search-bar at the top it freezes. It's done it about 10 times (require termination and restart of firefox)
[09:54] <knapper_> Hi: I am getting the following error when trying to copy a dvd using k9copy: "An error occurred while running DVDAuthor: STAT: VOBU 0 at 0MB, 1 PGCS"
[09:54] <knapper_> Anyone familiar with this error?
[09:55] <Hawkwind> MehAdult: It's in Texas and should be in my area by the end of the year they say
[09:57] <knapper_> Anyone
[09:57] <knapper_> ?
[09:58] <MehAdult> Hawkwind: Lucky :p
[10:02] <dimsuz> Hi! I'm planning to try kubuntu and I'm curious what are the package sizes compared to their .tar.{gz,bz2} variants?
[10:03] <aliasfred> dimsuz: it depends of the packages, usually .tgz are smaller, why do you ask that ?
[10:03] <dimsuz> aliasfred: that's because I'm on dialup and I wonder how long will it take to update some package... :)
[10:04] <dimsuz> aliasfred: although I've heard something about debdelta... Is it working?
[10:04] <abattoir_> dimsuz: which one? maybe ubotu can tell us the size
[10:04] <aliasfred> dimsuz: update ? not full install ? is this clear ?
[10:05] <aliasfred> i mean else you know about shipit, i guess
[10:05] <aliasfred> dimsuz: never heard of debdelta :)
[10:05] <dimsuz> abattoir_: let's take kdelibs for example :)
[10:05] <dimsuz> aliasfred: yes, update. If i have kdelibs-3.5.1 and want kdelibs-3.5.2 for example
[10:05] <abattoir_> dimsuz: oh, i thought you were looking for a specific package... ok anyways...
[10:05] <abattoir_> !info kdelibs
[10:05] <ubotu> kdelibs: core libraries from the official KDE release. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 88 kB
[10:06] <abattoir_> hehe, that's misleading :)
[10:06] <aliasfred> hehe :) see it is small :)
[10:06] <dimsuz> ubotu: s/kB/mB/ ? :)
[10:06] <aliasfred> dimsuz: yep you would need something like rsync
[10:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about s/kB/mB/ ? :) - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:06] <abattoir_> dimsuz: ubotu is never wrong :P
[10:06] <abattoir_> !ubotu
[10:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:07] <dimsuz> aliasfred: yes, I know about shipit - just got the disc delivered! :)
[10:07] <dimsuz> abattoir_: you or ubotu is joking? :) Recall that I'm a newbie and can believe in almost everything :P
[10:08] <abattoir_> dimsuz: ubotu is a bot, a computer program :)
[10:08] <dimsuz> abattoir_: yes, I understood that :)
[10:08] <Specimen> but its nick isnt registered?
[10:08] <Specimen> so is it officially in this channel
[10:08] <dimsuz> abattoir_: so it was wrong about those kB? :)
[10:09] <abattoir_> well, you can PM it, so i guess it is registered
[10:09] <Specimen> ah
[10:09] <Specimen> ok
[10:09] <aliasfred> dimsuz: debdelta the programm is in ubuntu, i dunno if the repository support
[10:09] <abattoir_> dimsuz: no, in kubuntu, unlike KDE, the components of kdelibs are independently packaged
[10:10] <abattoir_> *well, its not exactly packaged in KDE ;)
[10:10] <dimsuz> aliasfred: ok. I dont think I'll update to often like i do it in gentoo now :)
[10:10] <abattoir_> so kdelibs here, is just a metapackaged which would install all the components
[10:10] <abattoir_> *metapackage
[10:10] <dimsuz> abattoir_: ...which in turn will download a big files, yes?
[10:11] <aliasfred> dimsuz: but the debdelta stuff is a good idea and match the ubuntu policy about 'even to low bw people'
[10:11] <lnxKDE> I got my Kubuntu and ubuntu CDs from canonical :)
[10:11] <abattoir_> dimsuz: yes, i think kdelibs-bin and kdelibs-data
[10:11] <lnxKDE> very nice :)
[10:11] <lnxKDE> also got some ubuntu stickers :D
[10:11] <abattoir_> !info kdelibs-bin
[10:11] <ubotu> kdelibs-bin: core binaries for all KDE applications. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18 (dapper), package size 794 kB, installed size 2488 kB
[10:11] <abattoir_> !info kdelibs-bin
[10:12] <abattoir_> !info kdelibs-data
[10:12] <ubotu> kdelibs-data: core shared data for all KDE applications. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18 (dapper), package size 6917 kB, installed size 27476 kB
[10:12] <abattoir_> dimsuz: there you go :)
[10:12] <abattoir> dimsuz: .... and kdelibs4c2a too
[10:12] <dimsuz> abattoir_: wow! 6 MB is less than 15 MB of kdelibs.tar.bz2 here
[10:13] <dimsuz> abattoir: whats this?
[10:13] <abattoir> !info kdelibs4c2a
[10:13] <ubotu> kdelibs4c2a: core libraries for all KDE applications. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18 (dapper), package size 8139 kB, installed size 24336 kB
[10:13] <abattoir> there comes the 8 MB ;)
[10:14] <dimsuz> abattoir: hmm. cant understand from description what this kdelibs4c2a thing is :)
[10:14] <abattoir> dimsuz: i'd suggest using the debs, compiling KDE from source might be troublesome
[10:14] <dimsuz> abattoir: yes, yes, I'm just comparing it to my gentoo source tarballs :)
[10:14] <dimsuz> abattoir: anyway, soon I'll be using kde from kde4's subversion trunk :)
[10:14] <abattoir> dimsuz: aah, ok :)
[10:15] <dimsuz> abattoir: as long as it becomes usable :)
[10:15] <aliasfred> dimsuz: you dev on kde4 ?
[10:15] <abattoir> dimsuz: well, the devs are 'using' it ;)
[10:15] <dimsuz> aliasfred: yup :). doing kdegames development mostly.
[10:16] <dimsuz> abattoir: yes :)
[10:16] <dimsuz> abattoir: but basic sesssion isn
[10:16] <abattoir> dimsuz: any particular game? if i may ask?
[10:16] <dimsuz> ...isn't runnable yet
[10:16] <dimsuz> abattoir: not any particular. now I'm busy with porting kdegames module to qt4/kde4 api
[10:17] <abattoir> dimsuz: oh ok, cool :)
[10:17] <Specimen> so i just got my kubuntu cds through shipit today
[10:17] <Specimen> but they dont work :(
[10:17] <Specimen> i stick them in any of three computers ive got here
[10:18] <Specimen> and they get as far as the menu
[10:18] <dimsuz> abattoir: i must admit that I'm not very experienced kde dev - i'm working with it only a few month. But I quickly gain experience ;)
[10:18] <Specimen> but they freeze when i try to launch
[10:18] <Specimen> can anyone please assist me?
[10:18] <Specimen> i so yearn for a malware-free environment...
[10:19] <aliasfred> Specimen: the menu you are talking about is 'grub' ? a not nice menu in text when the cd boot ?
[10:19] <Specimen> no i get the nice menu
[10:19] <Specimen> the one with "launch/install"
[10:19] <Specimen> and graphics safe mode
[10:19] <Specimen> dadada
[10:19] <Specimen> but any of the first three options dont work
[10:19] <Specimen> sorta...
[10:19] <Specimen> in two of the computers
[10:20] <Specimen> it just freezes when it gets
[10:20] <Specimen> to
[10:20] <Specimen> trying to mount
[10:20] <Specimen> the root drive
[10:20] <Specimen> partition
[10:20] <Specimen> whatever
[10:20] <aliasfred> Specimen: do you have scsi ?
[10:20] <Specimen> no
[10:20] <Specimen> ide
[10:20] <aliasfred> when you say 'freeze', how long did you wai t?
[10:20] <Specimen> several minutes
[10:21] <aliasfred> is this laptop or desktop ?
[10:21] <Specimen> should i try longer?
[10:21] <Specimen> its a 400MHz tower and a 950MHz tower
[10:21] <aliasfred> hmm ok
[10:21] <Specimen> the first with 128Mb of RAM (a little low I know) and the other with 640Mb
[10:21] <Specimen> oh i forgot -
[10:21] <aliasfred> you are in the very easy case here, no laptop, no scsi
[10:21] <Specimen> if i wait long enough on the 400MHz one,
[10:22] <Specimen> it gives a logical i/o error for hdc
[10:22] <Specimen> (which im assuming is hard drive c:)
[10:22] <aliasfred> hdc being the cdrom ?
[10:22] <Specimen> i was thinking it was the hard drive but it could be the cd
[10:22] <Specimen> i dont know...
[10:22] <centyx> Specimen: hdc would be the secondary master
[10:22] <aliasfred> hmm ok
[10:22] <Specimen> ok
[10:22] <Specimen> sorry
[10:22] <dimsuz> I can see debdelta in unstable. What are these branches? Are they like stable and unstable ones in gentoo?
[10:22] <Specimen> i have very little experience with linux
[10:23] <h3sp4wn> !info debdelta edgy
[10:23] <ubotu> debdelta: diff and patch utilities which work with Debian packages. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 152 kB
[10:23] <aliasfred> Specimen: so i get, you got several box running, then you can try to boot and follow instruction live while being here?
[10:23] <Specimen> no problemo
[10:23] <Specimen> ive got to run
[10:23] <Specimen> from one end of the basement to the othger
[10:23] <Specimen> ^other
[10:23] <Specimen> but its quite feasable
[10:23] <aliasfred> Specimen: i got to run too :) but this is the proper process :)
[10:24] <aliasfred> Specimen: another thing would be to check if the cd itself is ok
[10:24] <Specimen> done that.
[10:24] <dimsuz> !info gcc
[10:24] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:24] <aliasfred> there is a 'cd check' somewehre
[10:24] <Specimen> on the third computer i cant boot to the desktop but
[10:24] <Specimen> the cd checks out fine
[10:24] <dimsuz> !info gcc unstable
[10:24] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:24] <dimsuz> hmm
[10:24] <dimsuz> !info gcc edgy
[10:24] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-3 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:24] <aliasfred> Specimen: ok so it is likely something tiny but boring :)
[10:24] <Specimen> sure
[10:24] <dimsuz> nice toy :)
[10:25] <Specimen> ram check?
[10:25] <aliasfred> Specimen: as i said i got to go, but the process could be (i) try to wait longer, (ii) try safer boot option, (iii) ask somebody here to help you getting more info about the freeze
[10:25] <Specimen> ok
[10:25] <aliasfred> Specimen: you can but unlikely on the 3 box
[10:25] <Specimen> sure
[10:26] <Specimen> yeah
[10:26] <Specimen> oh yeah
[10:26] <Specimen> the safe boot fails too
[10:26] <Specimen> do u think this could be a problem with my cd drive?"
[10:26] <aliasfred> yep could be
[10:27] <Specimen> ok
[10:27] <Specimen> ill try another one then
[10:27] <aliasfred> but then again on the 3 boxes
[10:27] <aliasfred> ok gone now good luck :)
[10:27] <Specimen> thanks
[10:27] <Specimen> 4 all the help!
[10:28] <soon> #join #jabref
[10:28] <soon> ups !!
[10:34] <rootadmin> 
[10:34] <rootadmin> 
[10:34] <rootadmin> 
[10:34] <rootadmin> :-)
[10:34] <dimsuz> I forgot to ask one more thing :).
[10:35] <dimsuz> How about initng support in [k] ubuntu?
[10:35] <dimsuz> is it as simple as http://hermann.czedik.net/ubuntu_initng.html says? :)
[10:36] <DarkAudit> What am I missing to be able to see my folders on my notebook? Both machines are running Dapper
[10:36] <DarkAudit> So much info on how to connect to the internet, but hardly anything on networking 2 kubuntu boxes
[10:38] <Tommy2k4> im trying to run kubuntu livecd on another pc and its giving loads of these errors:
[10:38] <Tommy2k4> buffer i/o error on device dm-1 at block 4324324798
[10:39] <Tommy2k4> and the block number increases and gives a new error like that every few seconds
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> Tommy2k4: Try the kanotix live cd its alot better (to use as a live cd)
[10:40] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: disk errors? scratched CD maybe?
[10:40] <Tommy2k4> but i might end up installing kubuntu
[10:40] <dices_almighty> you have to install kubuntu then nfs or samba for sharing
[10:40] <dices_almighty> or live cd then install nfs or samba
[10:41] <dices_almighty> or plain old fish:  :P
[10:41] <dices_almighty> in konqueror
[10:41] <DarkAudit> ok... I need nfs for 2 linux boxes, right?
[10:41] <Tommy2k4> does anyone know whether device dm-1 is likely to be the cd drive or the hdd when using livecd
[10:41] <Specimen> oops, i just realized this nick is owned by someone else...
[10:42] <Pupeno> what mp3 encoder do you recommend (even if it is text-only), the simpler the better.
[10:42] <Tommy2k4> lame
[10:42] <ubuntu> bye beyw
[10:43] <dices_almighty> DarkAudit i would prefer samba for network and server or even fish
[10:43] <dices_almighty> with fish you can see all files using ssh
[10:43] <will____> is there a way to set linux to just ask your for the SU password when it is necessary (in the gui)?
[10:43] <KaiHanari> will____, thats the way it is already
[10:45] <trng204> so if anyone else was watching my problem,
[10:45] <will____> KaiHanari: for example, when I try to "safely remove" my external HD it says I'm not root.  what's the easiest way to solve that
[10:45] <trng204> i swapped out the cd drive
[10:45] <trng204> no change :(
[10:45] <will____> KaiHanari: im going to be taking that drive on and off all the time
[10:45] <KaiHanari> will____, how are you mounting the drive?
[10:45] <will____> well it is mounting it  to the media folder
[10:46] <will____> KaiHanari: media/sda5
[10:46] <KaiHanari> it shouldnt say that you have to be root, unless youve got root accessing it
[10:47] <will____> oh
[10:48] <KaiHanari> i work with removeable media all the time, never been asked for root password
[10:48] <will____> KaiHanari: oh. I "closed" amarok but it was till running in the background.  that was the problem
[10:48] <will____> KaiHanari: thanks
[10:49] <KaiHanari> i have to go to work...
[10:49] <will____> KaiHanari: speaking of... is there a way to set it so when you hit the "x" it actually exits the program?
[10:50] <will____> anyone?
[10:52] <trappist> will____: I don't think there is.  amarok likes to go into the systray when you 'close' it.  you can close it any time, though, by right-clicking the systray icon.
[10:52] <centyx> ctrl-q quits it too
[10:52] <will____> thx
[10:52] <will____> even better
[10:53] <centyx> or just click on File/Quit
[10:55] <Tommy2k4> is there no way to install kubuntu from the livecd without booting into the livecd first
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> Tommy2k4: Depends how  hard you are willing to try
[10:56] <Tommy2k4> well booting to livecd keeps giving loads of errors
[10:56] <Tommy2k4> buffer i/o error on device dm-1 at block 4324324798
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> So try another live cd
[10:57] <RogueX>  Tommy2k4: there is a Text install on the DVD ver
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> i.e a different one (determine whether its a hardware problem or not)
[10:57] <RogueX> Tommy2k4: where you dont go into the live install
[10:58] <Tommy2k4> well id rather have to do it without having to dl another version
[10:59] <RogueX> Tommy2k4: I have never used the cd version.  but when you boot off the disk it gives you different options
[11:01] <Tommy2k4> is there no parameters i can use when u press f6 to make it just goto install instead of the livecd
[11:01] <trng204> wondering the same thing here...
[11:05] <DarkAudit> hmm... The instant I went on battery on my VAIO, the charge went to 85% left
[11:05] <ivan255> oi
[11:05] <ivan255> boa noite
[11:05] <DarkAudit> I've got sonypi in /etc/modules, but it still isn't recognized
[11:06] <ivan255> oi
[11:07] <RogueX> ivan255: english?
[11:07] <soon> anyone know how I add a new class to my latex installation?
[11:09] <Cntryboy> okay I'm back
[11:10] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why kaffeine has a slash through the speaker and it's not on mute? I can't get any sound
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> Cntryboy: Do you have sound in amarok ?
[11:11] <Cntryboy> Dunno about that
[11:11] <Cntryboy> but I do in vlc
[11:11] <Cntryboy> I do in xmm also
[11:11] <Cntryboy> I mean my sound is fine, just not in kaffeine
[11:11] <trng204> gtg
[11:12] <coachJ> how do I make firefox the default browser
[11:13] <Cntryboy> h3sp4wn: dont go to sleep on me
[11:13] <Cntryboy> lol
[11:14] <osh_> No opera in Dapper?
[11:15] <trappist> osh_: never will be, unless opera goes open source
[11:16] <abattoir> osh_: but there is a dapper package in the opera site isnt there?
[11:18] <trappist> abattoir: http://deb.opera.com/opera/dists/unstable/non-free/binary-i386/
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> !dapper-commercial
[11:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about dapper-commercial - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> There is a dapper-commercial canocial repo with opera in it
[11:18] <osh_> abattoir: will have a look at that. thanks.
[11:19] <osh_> I thought I'd check it out since it's qt-based...
[11:19] <abattoir> they dont seem to have x86_64 though :(
[11:19] <RawSewage> I cant get sound back on YouTube.  I touched a volume control on it, and now, no sound
[11:20] <trappist> abattoir: no, they don't
[11:20] <RawSewage> Anyone know how to fix this
[11:20] <trappist> abattoir: and since it's not open source we can't make a 64bit build
[11:20] <abattoir> trappist: of course :)
[11:20] <trappist> abattoir: I run mine in a 32bit chroot, from where I also run mplayer, firefox, etc.
[11:21] <abattoir> trappist: nah, i prefer running it natively :)
[11:21] <abattoir> trappist: konq does well enough for me
[11:21] <trappist> abattoir: can't have flash, java, etc., in a 64bit browser atm.
[11:22] <coachJ> if someone answered i missed it,,how do I set firefox as my default browser?
[11:22] <abattoir> trappist: well... it is not impossible, there are workarounds
[11:22] <trappist> abattoir: yeah - running it in a 32bit chroot :)
[11:22] <james14> I have Dapper running on a IBM ThinkPad.  Am using a Bluetooth mouse.  When I haven't use the mouse for a few minutes I have to reconnect it again.  Any idea how to fix this?
[11:22] <trappist> coachJ: set firefox as the application for the .htm* filetypes
[11:22] <coachJ> where?
[11:22] <abattoir> trappist: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90919.html seen that?
[11:23] <trappist> abattoir: no I haven't, thanks for the link - looks like something I might wanna do
[11:24] <abattoir> trappist: doesnt work always for me, so i think you might choose to stay using chroot :P
[11:24] <coachJ> trappist-where do I set the association of file types
[11:25] <trappist> coachJ: I dunno, in kcontrol somewhere.
[11:26] <abattoir> coachJ: Kcontrol-> KDE Components -> File Associatioins
[11:26] <abattoir> *Associations
[11:26] <coachJ> thks
[11:27] <coachJ> wow I dont have a Kcontrol in the menu
[11:28] <marlin> I really would like to be involved in kubuntu
[11:28] <marlin> but don't know where to start
[11:28] <coachJ> abattoir-I dont have a Kcontrol in the menu
[11:29] <ivan255> alguma pessoa afim  de tc
[11:29] <coachJ> same to ya
[11:30] <Tommy2k4> if i dl the kubuntu alternative cd will it still install the same stuff as the livecd
[11:30] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why kaffeine has a slash through the speaker and it's not on mute? I can't get any sound
[11:31] <marlin> try to install the libxine-extracodecs
[11:34] <Cntryboy> marlin: I can't it's not in repos
[11:34] <Cntryboy> and I don't know how to add it
[11:34] <Cntryboy> ive already downloaded 2hours worth of w32 on this slowww dialup
[11:34] <Cntryboy> but can't get what u said to work
[11:36] <marlin> try to check up a multiverse or universe repository
[11:42] <she> yo
[11:49] <trappist> Cntryboy: http://linuxkungfu.org/tmp/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:50] <Cntryboy> I have w32
[11:50] <Cntryboy> its libxine-extracodecs Im trying to get working
[11:50] <trappist> oh
[11:51] <trappist> it's in multiverse
[11:52] <trappist> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xine-extracodecs/libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_i386.deb
[11:54] <shoemake> howdie howdie... I got some problems with kopete/gaim and icq... any takers?
[11:54] <centyx> shoemake: just ask, maybe someone will say something helpful
[11:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys
[11:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i forgot the name of a program
[11:55] <shoemake> hehe, well... I can't get logged in. I can do it from the windows box sitting beside me..
[11:55] <trappist> shoemake: it usually works this way: you ask a specific question, and anyone who knows the answer will answer.
[11:55] <centyx> Tallia1Kubuntu: what does it do?
[11:55] <shoemake> kopete just sits there "connecting" and gaim will eventually error
[11:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i used it to create a deb package automatically after compilation, and so be able of upgrade/uninstall without having to retain the source code
[11:55] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: which one? ;)
[11:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> leave me the time to type ^__^
[11:56] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: checkinstall?
[11:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> trappist: it could be! let me see :)
[11:57] <centyx> shoemake: icq? i don't use that. are they using the same server as your client on the other machine?
[11:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> trappist: i was thinking about his name, why checkinstall!??
[11:57] <shoemake> yes
[11:57] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: I have no idea.  good question.
[11:58] <ironfroggy> shoemake: i use icq with kopete. whats the problem?
[11:58] <andrew_> Would anyone know how to play dvds on kubuntu?
[11:58] <shoemake> Iron, fresh install (finished about an hour ago).... kopete and gaim won't let me log into icq
[11:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> andrew_: mplayer dvd:/
[12:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and you need some libraries installed
[12:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> read here
[12:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !dvd
[12:00] <centyx> andrew_: apt-get install libdvdread3 and wget http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb then install it with dpkg -i
[12:00] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:00] <centyx> or what ubotu said
[12:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[12:01] <centyx> the package from videolan.org works for me ;)
[12:01] <andrew_> thanks
[12:01] <centyx> i just use kaffeine
[12:01] <centyx> not a fan of mplayer
[12:01] <andrew_> You mean kaffein play dvds
[12:02] <centyx> andrew_ once you get those library files, it will, yes
[12:03] <centyx> wonder if shoemake got it to work
[12:03] <centyx> 8-s