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digitalmouse | brr!!! cold in here.... must be the Fridge! greetings programs! | 10:59 |
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markit86 | @schedule london | 01:21 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/London: 19 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu | 20 Jul 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 21 Jul 20:00: Ubuntu Marketing Team | 26 Jul 13:00: Edubuntu | 28 Jul 00:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Aug 21:00: Technical Board | 01:21 |
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stefg | @schedule berlin | 05:05 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 19 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 20 Jul 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 21 Jul 21:00: Ubuntu Marketing Team | 26 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 28 Jul 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Aug 22:00: Technical Board | 05:05 |
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GNAM | @schedule rome | 05:17 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Rome: 19 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 20 Jul 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 21 Jul 21:00: Ubuntu Marketing Team | 26 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 28 Jul 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Aug 22:00: Technical Board | 05:17 |
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highvoltage | @schedule Johannesburg | 08:41 |
Ubugtu | Schedule for Africa/Johannesburg: 19 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 20 Jul 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 21 Jul 21:00: Ubuntu Marketing Team | 26 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 28 Jul 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Aug 22:00: Technical Board | 08:41 |
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coachJ | when does the mtg start? | 09:43 |
ompaul | ~15 minutes | 09:44 |
coachJ | k | 09:46 |
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ogra | good idea | 09:58 |
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coachJ | too late in the afternoon foe coffee here | 09:59 |
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highvoltage | for all of us? ;) | 10:00 |
ogra | meep | 10:00 |
LaserJock | here | 10:00 |
cbx33 | oooh thanky Hawkwind | 10:00 |
cbx33 | whoops | 10:00 |
cbx33 | HedgeMage, | 10:00 |
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RichEd | greetz | 10:00 |
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HedgeMage | hehe | 10:01 |
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coachJ | lol | 10:01 |
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cbx33 | get out of bed :p | 10:01 |
RichEd | laptop ... some kind of euphemism ? | 10:01 |
highvoltage | ouch | 10:01 |
HedgeMage | rofl | 10:01 |
coachJ | mtg be good for highvoltage's sake | 10:01 |
cbx33 | eeeewwww | 10:01 |
highvoltage | RichEd: luckily not | 10:01 |
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ogra | ok, lets go :) | 10:02 |
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cbx33 | oh you mean the meeting.... | 10:03 |
ogra | not much on the tech side as usual :) | 10:03 |
ogra | we have a knot 1 milestone CD | 10:03 |
highvoltage | the first knot is tied, right? | 10:03 |
cbx33 | w00t | 10:03 |
highvoltage | :) | 10:03 |
ogra | which in fact took me since friday to get everything right | 10:03 |
highvoltage | anyone install it yet? | 10:03 |
cbx33 | not yet | 10:03 |
ogra | but now we have something we can break | 10:04 |
ogra | muhahaha | 10:04 |
highvoltage | mhuhaha | 10:04 |
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Mithrandir | knot-1 is all but released, yet. That is, I'll release it tomorrow morning, since I've drunk something closer to a bottle of wine now and I don't think I should futz around with cd images then. :-P | 10:04 |
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Mithrandir | s/yet/yes/ | 10:04 |
ogra | Mithrandir, well, it wont change anymore :) | 10:04 |
ogra | enjoy your wine :) | 10:04 |
=== highvoltage will download tomorrow | ||
cbx33 | and the hangover | 10:05 |
Mithrandir | ogra: true. :-) | 10:05 |
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ogra | highvoltage, keep the iso around so you can try cbx33's gui sync tool ;) | 10:05 |
cbx33 | I was gonna mention that | 10:05 |
cbx33 | if anyone is interested in beta testing grasynco | 10:05 |
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rodarvus | hi | 10:05 |
rodarvus | sorry | 10:05 |
cbx33 | it's on REVU at the moment | 10:05 |
ogra | soo ... apart from that there is not much n the tech side ... | 10:06 |
rodarvus | I was concentrated updating libx11 | 10:06 |
cbx33 | and also on LP | 10:06 |
highvoltage | ogra: i intend to do that! | 10:06 |
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cbx33 | may I ask you all to keep a backup of the isos....just in case | 10:06 |
ogra | the ltsp tarball builder script is nearly done ... | 10:06 |
cbx33 | :D | 10:06 |
HedgeMage | :) | 10:06 |
cbx33 | unless you don;t mind downloading again | 10:06 |
highvoltage | cbx33: just beware, I'm quite crazy with feature requests, just ask ogra :) | 10:06 |
ogra | the first try can be seen on http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-tarballs/ | 10:06 |
cbx33 | highvoltage, that's cool | 10:07 |
cbx33 | I'll try to accomodate | 10:07 |
ogra | highvoltage, heh, yes, you are (sometimes :) ) | 10:07 |
LaserJock | where are we with specs? | 10:07 |
highvoltage | ogra: have ltsp upsream made any announcement yet? | 10:07 |
ogra | LaserJock, SCP is still lacking some love, i'll jump on that tomorrow ... | 10:07 |
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ogra | highvoltage, nope, the system needs to run automatically | 10:08 |
cbx33 | but I'll wait till ogra has finished | 10:08 |
cbx33 | otherwise people may talk :p | 10:08 |
LaserJock | ogra: LTSP specs are looking good? | 10:08 |
ogra | what you see on the url is the first test run | 10:08 |
highvoltage | ogra: what would be the difference between those tarballs ans a standard Edubuntu ltsp chroot? | 10:08 |
ogra | LaserJock, well, the udeb is ready now to add the dhcp stuff ... SCP isnt approved yet but i had no time to fix stuff, mdz is notified | 10:08 |
highvoltage | ogra: are they mostly the same so far? | 10:08 |
ogra | ltspfs stuff isnt started yet | 10:09 |
LaserJock | k | 10:09 |
ogra | highvoltage, they are 100% the same | 10:09 |
HedgeMage | If anyone's interested, we are planning a meeting for Edubuntu Handbook (formerly Cookbook) Friday at 21:30 (just scheduled, so may not be on fridge yet, I'll post to the mailing lists momentarily) | 10:09 |
ogra | but we'll have arch specific ones ;) | 10:09 |
highvoltage | ok. so no need to download then. | 10:09 |
ogra | HedgeMage, docs are next | 10:09 |
HedgeMage | ogra: oops, sorry | 10:10 |
ogra | highvoltage, nope, but if you ever want powerpc clients you can just grab the tarball ;) | 10:10 |
highvoltage | ogra: i'll keep that in mind! | 10:10 |
ogra | no need for fiddling around with nfs exports | 10:10 |
ogra | i'll probably make an installer package that downloads and unpacks it | 10:10 |
highvoltage | with a cbx33 front-end? | 10:11 |
ogra | so you can install ltsp-multiarch-powerpc | 10:11 |
highvoltage | *g* | 10:11 |
ogra | heh | 10:11 |
cbx33 | highvoltage, if you really really want it :p | 10:11 |
ogra | or ltsp-multiarch-sparc ;) | 10:11 |
highvoltage | cbx33: of course :) | 10:11 |
cbx33 | dang it :p | 10:11 |
ogra | highvoltage, well, that should be an extra tab in ltsp-manager rather :) | 10:11 |
highvoltage | cbx33: the LTSP people would love that | 10:12 |
ogra | soo ... | 10:12 |
cbx33 | highvoltage, wanna mail me a brief outline | 10:12 |
ogra | thats all from the tech side for this week ... i have noting t addd | 10:12 |
cbx33 | sometime and I'll see what I can dig up | 10:12 |
ogra | documentation ? | 10:12 |
highvoltage | cbx33: sure, we can chat about it tomorrow on #edubuntu, then send to the mailing list and get some larger input | 10:12 |
cbx33 | sure | 10:12 |
cbx33 | we can build it onto ogras ltsp manager | 10:13 |
ogra | HedgeMage, the CookBook was renamed ? | 10:13 |
highvoltage | cool. | 10:13 |
HedgeMage | ogra: yep, at our last meeting. | 10:13 |
ogra | HedgeMage, tell us about it, since not everyone was there :) | 10:13 |
mhz | please | 10:13 |
HedgeMage | ogra: Since it's not quite a cookbook format any more, we decided to vote for a new title... people posted suggestions to the wiki and our last meeting was a vote | 10:14 |
HedgeMage | it's now the "Edubuntu Handbook" | 10:14 |
ogra | great | 10:14 |
cbx33 | :D | 10:14 |
HedgeMage | Same fun stuff, new title :) | 10:14 |
mhz | EHB | 10:14 |
highvoltage | i think it's a good idea, merely because it will eliminate confusion about all the previous cookbook attempts :) | 10:15 |
cbx33 | I agree | 10:15 |
ogra | yup | 10:15 |
mhz | yup | 10:15 |
HedgeMage | That's the icing on the cake :) | 10:15 |
rodarvus | heh | 10:15 |
highvoltage | lol | 10:15 |
mhz | and it will be more 'handy' :D | 10:15 |
HedgeMage | Anyhow, we have a meeting on Friday, wiki info is at http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuHandbook | 10:16 |
ogra | btw LaserJock was praised in http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1990777,00.asp :) | 10:16 |
highvoltage | also on documentation, does anyone know what the best way is, and whether we should, get the edubuntu docs on http://help.ubuntu.com? | 10:16 |
HedgeMage | I haven't updated the meeting page yet since this was scheduled literally 5 minutes ago :) | 10:16 |
cbx33 | highvoltage, I talked with mdke about that a while ago | 10:16 |
ogra | highvoltage, all wiki docs are there already | 10:16 |
highvoltage | all the other official ubuntu distros docs are there, I think Edubuntu should be there too, since people would ask. | 10:16 |
cbx33 | you need permissions to create new pages | 10:16 |
highvoltage | ogra: it's not listed on the front page: http://help.ubuntu.com | 10:17 |
ogra | oh | 10:17 |
ogra | but they imported all our pages ... i have a painful slow redirect for nearly every wikipage | 10:17 |
cbx33 | is anything going to be done about the ssl certificate on the wiki? | 10:17 |
ogra | i dont think so | 10:17 |
cbx33 | grrr | 10:18 |
ogra | i could raise it agan ... but paied certs are not the best topic to dicuss with mark somehow :) | 10:18 |
highvoltage | yes, I think I'll ping mdke this weekend and ask if he could add an Edubuntu section on the frontpage of help. | 10:18 |
mhz | it is not wiki's fault (not moin) | 10:18 |
cbx33 | ok | 10:18 |
cbx33 | mhz, I know | 10:18 |
cbx33 | ogra, ok cool | 10:18 |
ogra | mhz, we have bought one afaik, but thats limited to ubuntu.com | 10:18 |
cbx33 | highvoltage, yes good idea | 10:18 |
mhz | grr! | 10:19 |
mhz | :) | 10:19 |
highvoltage | that's ironic. | 10:19 |
cbx33 | I'll do the same, as I'm owed a creatoin account on help.ubuntu.com i think :p | 10:19 |
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LaserJock | highvoltage: we would have to ship something to put it in help.ubuntu.com | 10:19 |
mhz | but, isn't markie related to Certificates? | 10:19 |
highvoltage | LaserJock: does it need to be in a certain format? | 10:19 |
ogra | Riddell, do you know anything about the certs ? i know you asked about them | 10:19 |
peterretief | highvoltage: hi | 10:19 |
LaserJock | highvoltage: those docs are created from the doc team svn repo | 10:20 |
highvoltage | mhz: it's how he made his money :) | 10:20 |
highvoltage | hi peterretief | 10:20 |
mhz | yeah, hence my point | 10:20 |
Riddell | ogra: filed an rt request, not heard anything back, feel free to poke harder | 10:20 |
ogra | mhz, quote: "i've seen enough certs in my life" | 10:20 |
HedgeMage | lol | 10:20 |
rodarvus | :) | 10:21 |
ogra | Riddell, rt # ? | 10:21 |
mhz | lol | 10:21 |
Riddell | ogra: no idea, it was ages ago | 10:21 |
highvoltage | LaserJock: we could probably get someone from docteam to help us out? there should be some people who are common in edubuntu-doc and ubuntu-doc that I'm sure would assist. | 10:21 |
ogra | Riddell, lol, ok | 10:21 |
LaserJock | highvoltage: umm, jerome and I are happy to help | 10:21 |
cbx33 | highvoltage, what about jerome | 10:21 |
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highvoltage | LaserJock: excellent :) | 10:22 |
LaserJock | highvoltage: edubuntu school advocacy is already on doc.ubuntu.com | 10:22 |
cbx33 | is it ? | 10:22 |
cbx33 | crikey | 10:22 |
LaserJock | highvoltage: mdke made an Edubuntu css | 10:22 |
mhz | is it??? | 10:22 |
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ogra | wasnt that renamed ? | 10:22 |
highvoltage | great. so it just needs a link from the home page. | 10:22 |
LaserJock | yes, I had them make an Edubuntu section | 10:22 |
LaserJock | doc.ubuntu.com | 10:22 |
LaserJock | on the right there is an Edubuntu section | 10:23 |
highvoltage | doc.ubuntu.com is meant for work in progress, right? | 10:23 |
cbx33 | I see | 10:23 |
LaserJock | yes | 10:23 |
LaserJock | doc.ubuntu.com represents our svn repo | 10:23 |
highvoltage | ESA is completed, isn't it? | 10:23 |
cbx33 | is there the possibility of ESA making it onto help.ubuntu.com? | 10:23 |
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cbx33 | or is that not the place for it? | 10:24 |
mhz | lovely http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html | 10:24 |
highvoltage | cbx33: thinking the same thing here :) | 10:24 |
LaserJock | help.ubuntu.com has what has been shipped | 10:24 |
ogra | wow, esa is impressive | 10:24 |
highvoltage | i think ESA should be on help.ubuntu.com as well. | 10:24 |
LaserJock | we have a doc team meeting on Friday | 10:24 |
cbx33 | we try ogra :p | 10:24 |
LaserJock | I can ask | 10:24 |
cbx33 | thanks LaserJock | 10:24 |
LaserJock | so far we have only put the docs that were shipped on CD on help.ubuntu.com | 10:25 |
ogra | highvoltage, it is | 10:25 |
Burgwork | I have a half finished case study, using some of the stuff from esa | 10:25 |
cbx33 | the ESA gets everywhere | 10:25 |
highvoltage | ogra: i can't find it | 10:25 |
ogra | wow ... your doc work is massively impressive guys :) | 10:26 |
=== mhz is happy some folks will have no excuse to translate ESA into spanish now | ||
ogra | highvoltage, the link mhz pasted | 10:26 |
cbx33 | yes please | 10:26 |
LaserJock | so from the doc team's perspective I think we are ready to go, we just need content | 10:26 |
mhz | highvoltage: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html | 10:26 |
highvoltage | ogra: that's on doc.ubuntu.com, not on help.ubuntu.com | 10:26 |
cbx33 | I passed the esa to RichEd to pass onto the canonical marketting dept | 10:26 |
mhz | highvoltage: yeah, good point | 10:26 |
ogra | highvoltage, aww, now i understand | 10:26 |
ogra | cbx33, good ! | 10:26 |
RichEd | yep ... got it open .. will review & coment | 10:26 |
mhz | please, not redirections this time | 10:26 |
mhz | ;) | 10:27 |
cbx33 | RichEd, if you want my page mockups feel free to take those | 10:27 |
RichEd | okay | 10:27 |
cbx33 | they were a mock of what the pamphlet could look like | 10:27 |
cbx33 | hang on I'll grab a link | 10:27 |
cbx33 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy | 10:28 |
cbx33 | ignore everything on the page | 10:28 |
cbx33 | apart from the 4 images at the bottom | 10:28 |
LaserJock | hehe | 10:28 |
ogra | heh | 10:28 |
RichEd | tx | 10:28 |
cbx33 | I'll delete it I think | 10:28 |
mhz | cbx33: where's the mockup? | 10:28 |
cbx33 | down the very bottom | 10:28 |
mhz | oh, still downloading | 10:29 |
mhz | thx | 10:29 |
cbx33 | sorry | 10:29 |
cbx33 | that was our wip page | 10:29 |
mhz | cbx33: nice mockup idea | 10:29 |
cbx33 | ESA started like that before any text was written really :p | 10:29 |
HedgeMage | :) | 10:30 |
LaserJock | anyway, if anybody wants docs to go on doc.ubuntu.com (and eventually help.ubuntu.com) please let the doc team or at least jerome or I know | 10:30 |
mhz | cbx33: I am working on one for Chile (with Chilean colors) | 10:30 |
highvoltage | LaserJock: ok | 10:30 |
highvoltage | sounds like doc discussion is quieting down? | 10:30 |
ogra | well, then lets move on | 10:30 |
ogra | aaaaaaartwork | 10:31 |
ogra | whoops | 10:31 |
mhz | that KBD! | 10:31 |
mhz | ;) | 10:31 |
highvoltage | i think you missed an 'a' there | 10:31 |
AliasVegas | Hi everyone | 10:31 |
ogra | heh, i'm not 100% used to it yet :) | 10:31 |
mhz | AliasVegas: hi | 10:31 |
highvoltage | hi AliasVegas. just in time :) | 10:31 |
ogra | hey AliasVegas nice to see you ! | 10:31 |
HedgeMage | hi AliasVegas | 10:31 |
AliasVegas | I'm really glad that so many people like the edubuntu wallpaper that I did, and I think it's crucial to build on the success of that in the edgy release. | 10:31 |
ogra | yay | 10:32 |
=== HedgeMage wants to request that someone with more talent than HedgeMage start thinking about appropriate cover art for the Handbook | ||
mhz | HedgeMage: I can propose something | 10:32 |
AliasVegas | Yeah, I'll see what I can do if you want | 10:32 |
highvoltage | AliasVegas: I've set you as administrator on the artwork team, sorry, should have done that earlier :) | 10:32 |
=== mhz is forced to have more time now | ||
AliasVegas | What I thought we could do, to make a quick start is just ask for a single line from everyone on what they dislike about the dapper theme (if anything), but to be precise. Not just, I don't like the chalkboard, but why don't you like the chalkboard, too commercial etc? | 10:32 |
ogra | AliasVegas, great idea ! | 10:33 |
mhz | AliasVegas: yeah | 10:33 |
AliasVegas | Then just another single line about what you would like to see in edgy? | 10:33 |
HedgeMage | good idea, AliasVegas :) | 10:33 |
ogra | yup | 10:33 |
highvoltage | AliasVegas: I didn't like the orange hilight in the gtk theme. | 10:33 |
AliasVegas | I was going to then work from these to collate a plan on how we should proceed with the new themes and artwork. I have some initial ideas, but I don't want to develop them if there are elements which are not going to work or be to peoples liking. | 10:33 |
cbx33 | I'll start noting these down | 10:33 |
ogra | highvoltage, by mail :) | 10:33 |
cbx33 | heheh | 10:33 |
AliasVegas | thanks | 10:33 |
cbx33 | mail would be better | 10:34 |
highvoltage | oh yes, of course :) | 10:34 |
HedgeMage | Don't like: The green chalkboard thing clashes with our red gtk-theme, lacking theme-coordinating icons for some apps I like | 10:34 |
AliasVegas | ok | 10:34 |
highvoltage | to edubuntu-devel? or to AliasVegas? | 10:34 |
ogra | so could anyone who wants to participate say +1 so i know whom i have to nag ? ;) | 10:34 |
ogra | +1 | 10:34 |
rodarvus | edubuntu-users wouild be best I think | 10:34 |
highvoltage | +1 | 10:34 |
rodarvus | AliasVegas: nice idea, btw | 10:34 |
cbx33 | um, could we have edubuntu-artwork ? | 10:34 |
rodarvus | +1 | 10:34 |
cbx33 | mailing list ? | 10:35 |
peterretief | +1 | 10:35 |
mhz | +1 | 10:35 |
cbx33 | would that be useful? | 10:35 |
highvoltage | cbx33: i've thought about it before, I think it's at the stage where it's ready for it | 10:35 |
ogra | cbx33, how many people would we have on there ? | 10:35 |
cbx33 | anyone with an interest in artwork I'm presuming right AliasVegas ? | 10:35 |
rodarvus | not sure if edubuntu-artwork mailinig list would have critical mass | 10:35 |
LaserJock | I would think -devel and -users would be sufficent | 10:35 |
highvoltage | there are 20 people in launchpad who have volunteered to contribute to artwork | 10:35 |
ogra | cbx33, i want a number :) | 10:35 |
rodarvus | in other words, would probably become a semi-dead mailing list | 10:35 |
highvoltage | they would all be added to the new list | 10:35 |
highvoltage | that's already a good start. | 10:35 |
AliasVegas | yeah | 10:36 |
cbx33 | Hmm.... | 10:36 |
highvoltage | those who do not wish to be part can then be de-activated from the team. | 10:36 |
mhz | yeah | 10:36 |
highvoltage | https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-artwork/+members | 10:36 |
cbx33 | I just wonder that in order to get the artowrk team off the ground, they should have their own ML? | 10:36 |
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cbx33 | just my 2 cents | 10:36 |
mhz | or.. keep using -devel but adding [ART] | 10:36 |
mhz | on subject | 10:36 |
mhz | just my 2 cents | 10:36 |
mhz | eek, we have 4 cents! | 10:37 |
ogra | cbx33, i will need to give an estimated number of initial subscribers ... its not useful to have a list for 10 people ... | 10:37 |
highvoltage | i wonder if everyone on the launchapd team would be willing to subscribe to edubuntu-devel, we could probably try and ask them | 10:37 |
cbx33 | I get so much spam from that channel? | 10:38 |
highvoltage | ogra: we already have at least 20 people! :) | 10:38 |
highvoltage | cbx33: no you don't | 10:38 |
highvoltage | cbx33: you get admin requests ;) | 10:38 |
cbx33 | i get spam too | 10:38 |
mhz | cbx33: BTW, I have no logs regarding pwd for ML admin tasks, could you PM it to me, please? | 10:38 |
cbx33 | sure | 10:38 |
ogra | highvoltage, well, i havent seen much new artwork during dapper, that was more widespread in breezy | 10:39 |
ogra | the quality raised immensely though :) | 10:39 |
mhz | ogra: AliasVegas is in town now ;) | 10:39 |
ogra | yeah ! :) | 10:39 |
AliasVegas | I want to setup an edubuntu-artwork meeting, for anyone who has any interest in artwork/themes to come along to, so we can really start to brainstorm and get the process moving. If anyone has some suggestions about times that would be great ;) | 10:39 |
highvoltage | ogra: i think the announcement that canonical would use a paid-for company for artwork killed things a bit, imho :/ | 10:39 |
ogra | but still ... she will surely need support ... | 10:40 |
cbx33 | highvoltage, I agree | 10:40 |
ogra | highvoltage, yep | 10:40 |
mhz | AliasVegas: i have a couple of suggestions but based on my UTC | 10:40 |
ogra | highvoltage, but it was like that before as well ... | 10:40 |
mhz | (my TZ) | 10:40 |
ogra | just that nobody announced it before :) | 10:40 |
cbx33 | does this kinda time suit mhz ? | 10:40 |
mhz | cbx33: nope | 10:41 |
cbx33 | 12 UTC? | 10:41 |
mhz | 11 UTC | 10:41 |
highvoltage | ogra: i beg to differ, if you go to art.ubuntu.com, you'll see quite a few wallpapers that were made for breezy, some of them not too bad | 10:41 |
mhz | so I can be before leaving house | 10:41 |
mhz | cbx33: or 23 UTC | 10:41 |
mhz | :D | 10:41 |
ogra | highvoltage, http://art.ubuntu.com/ | 10:41 |
ogra | its down | 10:41 |
cbx33 | 23 UTC.... | 10:41 |
cbx33 | AliasVegas, will be in bed then | 10:42 |
cbx33 | :p | 10:42 |
AliasVegas | lol | 10:42 |
mhz | highvoltage: yeah, like the darkones I did because I prefer black for kids :D | 10:42 |
cbx33 | we can discuss times later | 10:42 |
highvoltage | ogra: click on "Edubuntu" on the right. it still works | 10:42 |
ogra | oh no its redesigned :P | 10:42 |
highvoltage | http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/edubuntu/ | 10:42 |
ogra | yep | 10:42 |
AliasVegas | I'm also going to post a notice to the ubuntu-artwork mailing list explaining where we are at this stage and ask for volunteers to help edubuntu in this release. | 10:42 |
mhz | cbx33: then , we could rotate ;) | 10:42 |
ogra | i know them, i added most of them there | 10:42 |
cbx33 | sure mhz | 10:42 |
cbx33 | I'm sure AliasVegas would be ok with that | 10:42 |
mhz | cbx33: if meetings are weekly, 3 or 4 diff UTCs is good | 10:43 |
AliasVegas | 2 sounds good | 10:43 |
AliasVegas | like edubuntu | 10:43 |
mhz | cbx33: the thing is I am looking for a job now, so most likely is I wont have time for IRC during working hours ;( | 10:43 |
AliasVegas | ogra, can I ask, how much are we at liberty to change in this release, just wallpapers/splashes, or icons, theme colours too? cbx33 was talking to me about the work he was doing on his new ubrander project, and I wondered how much gtk-rc editing had been done in the past? | 10:43 |
highvoltage | ogra: all of those wallpapers in art.ubuntu.com came from the breezy release cycle | 10:43 |
AliasVegas | fair enough :) | 10:44 |
ogra | AliasVegas, i'm sure it must be done in communication with the artteam ... | 10:44 |
ogra | so that we have a recognizable ubuntu look for all distros ... | 10:44 |
mhz | .oO(hmmm, the *buntu look) | 10:45 |
AliasVegas | ok that sounds cool | 10:45 |
ogra | a kind of CI | 10:45 |
AliasVegas | Not much more to say really, I'm conscious of the time factors involved and have just finished some of my paid freelance work, so I should have some more time to devote to getting the ball rolling here. | 10:45 |
ogra | but we'll surely have freedom about colors, icons splash screens gdm login theme bootsplash etc | 10:45 |
AliasVegas | ok :) | 10:45 |
ogra | there is only some small gtkrc editing been doneby me | 10:46 |
ogra | mostly adjusting colors | 10:46 |
ogra | (based on a completely different orange wallpaper btw) | 10:47 |
AliasVegas | right | 10:47 |
mhz | AliasVegas: i am VERY interested in creating 'artwork' for Stands (posters, stuff to hang -no idea about english name for it , stand look, etc) | 10:47 |
cbx33 | mhz, cool | 10:47 |
mhz | and all related to merchandising | 10:48 |
mhz | Edubuntu based, of course | 10:48 |
cbx33 | I'd need that if BETT2007 went ahead | 10:48 |
HedgeMage | that's awesome, mhz | 10:48 |
AliasVegas | Posters sounds like a cool idea | 10:48 |
ogra | mhz, ++ | 10:48 |
=== cbx33 imagines darting around town on his blades putting up edubuntu posters all around town | ||
mhz | yeah, Teachers loved the idea of having Edubuntu T-Shirts for Labs | 10:48 |
cbx33 | then getting nicked by the rozzers :p | 10:48 |
HedgeMage | hehe cbx33 | 10:48 |
mhz | and then I thought about Posters for Edubuntu Labs (with messages for the users) | 10:49 |
AliasVegas | I love the idea of t-shirts | 10:49 |
ogra | yep | 10:49 |
cbx33 | mhz, heheh.... "Got root....no...cos if you did you'd break things" | 10:49 |
mhz | lol | 10:49 |
cbx33 | I think I just found my new tagline :p | 10:49 |
ogra | but posters at least for booths would be grreat | 10:49 |
highvoltage | cbx33: they can have root on the ro local filesystem :) | 10:49 |
cbx33 | hahaha | 10:50 |
cbx33 | give them the illusion | 10:50 |
ogra | heh | 10:50 |
mhz | yeah, we need promo material so people (human beings) know Edubuntu is not just an OS, it is meant for "YOU" | 10:50 |
cbx33 | awww | 10:50 |
ogra | ogra, time is almost up ... | 10:50 |
HedgeMage | :) | 10:50 |
ogra | err | 10:50 |
cbx33 | what about some fluffy Eft soft toys | 10:50 |
ogra | i wrote ok ... | 10:50 |
highvoltage | flint said that we have done a good job at keeping edubuntu secret. | 10:50 |
ogra | stupid autocompletion | 10:50 |
mhz | www.openpuppets.com | 10:50 |
=== cbx33 has always had a vision | ||
highvoltage | so getting edubuntu out there is perhaps something everyone should work on. | 10:51 |
ogra | highvoltage, bah, flint said also that k12 doesnt like us :) | 10:51 |
cbx33 | we need someone to streak a major sporting event wearing nothing but ubuntu logos :p | 10:51 |
cbx33 | get us on the TV | 10:51 |
highvoltage | ogra: point taken :) | 10:51 |
RichEd | i'm willing to take marketing suggestions forward : richard.edubuntu@gmail.com | 10:51 |
=== mhz got Edubuntu on TV in Chile | ||
cbx33 | highvoltage, I totally agree....hence my initial creation of ESA | 10:51 |
mhz | and a couple of magazines too | 10:51 |
ogra | right | 10:51 |
ogra | next topic management :) | 10:52 |
ogra | since you are already at promotion | 10:52 |
RichEd | especially those that take it out of the "hobbyist" space into mainstream | 10:52 |
RichEd | well perhaps an intro from me ? | 10:53 |
LaserJock | that would be nice :-) | 10:53 |
ogra | if you like :) | 10:53 |
highvoltage | RichEd: sounds like no one is objecting ;) | 10:53 |
RichEd | Mark has just appointed me as "Education Programme Manager" last week ... to be client & relationship facing | 10:53 |
ogra | i also have something ... for the management side later | 10:53 |
HedgeMage | RichEd: welcome :) | 10:54 |
RichEd | The way I see it is that you guys are building a great eductional vehicle ... | 10:54 |
cbx33 | :) | 10:54 |
mhz | RichEd: oh, you are the one!! | 10:54 |
highvoltage | RichEd: yes, welcome again | 10:54 |
RichEd | and my job is to get as many people adopting it a possible. | 10:54 |
RichEd | I've been in the Education space with HP for 3 years | 10:54 |
RichEd | Schools, education departments etc. | 10:54 |
cbx33 | give me an external scsi hdd and I'll have an ltsp server running at the school :p | 10:54 |
RichEd | And seen lots of the "soft factors" that hamper adoption | 10:55 |
RichEd | "we don't have budget to train in MS and Linux" | 10:55 |
mhz | hehehe | 10:55 |
LaserJock | Universities!! | 10:55 |
RichEd | "we don't have enough tech support" | 10:55 |
highvoltage | RichEd: this would be internationally, right? | 10:55 |
RichEd | so we need to build a compelling case for "overcoming the human hurdles" | 10:56 |
RichEd | yep ... international ... | 10:56 |
RichEd | So I am here to help ... not interfere ;) | 10:56 |
mhz | RichEd: thx, then I have lots of stuff tu bug you with | 10:57 |
ogra | RichEd, we'll gain some ground in germany soon it seems ... :) | 10:57 |
LaserJock | awesome, thanks. I should be fun | 10:57 |
RichEd | And will try to take ideas from the community ..., as well as requests from "the clients" | 10:57 |
LaserJock | s/I/It/ shesh | 10:57 |
RichEd | And put them in front of the people who can make it happen. | 10:57 |
=== HedgeMage nods | ||
=== cbx33 notes he is a client as well :p | ||
ogra | i had another call from the guy that is affiliated with the minisrty of education and arts of bayern ... | 10:57 |
highvoltage | we're going to cover *lots* of ground in .za from Inkululeku | 10:57 |
=== RichEd sits down again | ||
RichEd | ogra: great | 10:57 |
highvoltage | it's probably no 'edubuntu' stricktly, because we currently use Xfce | 10:58 |
ogra | looks like he has arranged stuff like TV interviews etc | 10:58 |
mhz | highvoltage: me too! :D | 10:58 |
ogra | in september ... | 10:58 |
highvoltage | but we're going to sign up as official ubuntu partner, so i guess it would count as official. | 10:58 |
ogra | we'll need to talk since he wants me to represent | 10:58 |
RichEd | brb 15 secs | 10:58 |
cbx33 | highvoltage, what does that entail?> | 10:58 |
cbx33 | the partner thing? | 10:58 |
mhz | RichEd: well, we have a very agressive insertion plan this year for Chile, so I'd better sum it up and email it to you | 10:58 |
RichEd | mhz: please yes | 10:59 |
highvoltage | cbx33: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/become | 10:59 |
RichEd | jsgotangco also has some exciting stuff happenng in Philipines | 10:59 |
cbx33 | RichEd, is there the possibility of coming up with a "pack" to send to educational iministers etc | 10:59 |
RichEd | (apart from an active volcano close to his house spewing lava) | 10:59 |
cbx33 | about edubuntu> | 10:59 |
mhz | lol | 10:59 |
RichEd | cbx33: Mark has asked me to get "a directed education message" set up ... | 11:00 |
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RichEd | web site & pdf | 11:00 |
RichEd | for exactly that purpose | 11:00 |
cbx33 | cool | 11:00 |
cbx33 | esa could be useful there Lp | 11:00 |
cbx33 | :p | 11:00 |
RichEd | We also have a reporter in India who is pushing for Ubuntu / 6Eubuntu as a C development teaching platform in 60 schools | 11:01 |
ogra | nice ! | 11:01 |
RichEd | With a route into showing the local govt. how to do it ... and avoid the MS win & sql licence fees | 11:01 |
mhz | yeah, this is the Year of Edubuntu | 11:02 |
cbx33 | RichEd, yeh see this is what we nned | 11:02 |
cbx33 | mhz, I agree | 11:02 |
RichEd | And he has a Post Grad student in Florida who is a sidebar assistant | 11:02 |
RichEd | So lots of opportunity to mine. | 11:02 |
ogra | sounds very cool | 11:03 |
=== cbx33 is thinking about drafting some letters to the Educational authorities in UK | ||
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cbx33 | RichEd, that pack would be useful :p | 11:03 |
mhz | cbx33: ESA has lots of the arguments we'd need | 11:03 |
cbx33 | yes | 11:03 |
RichEd | Note also that I hope to use my relationship with HP Education Country managers (Europe & ZA & Africa) to try to push Edubuntu | 11:03 |
cbx33 | excellent | 11:03 |
cbx33 | RichEd, how viable do you think BETT2007 is? | 11:04 |
RichEd | (in their solution deals) as well as for Student OEM offerings | 11:04 |
highvoltage | RichEd: would be nice if you could round them all up again ;) | 11:04 |
=== HedgeMage nods | ||
HedgeMage | RichEd: Any notes/news about the US? | 11:04 |
RichEd | As I said earlier cbx33 : we have some routes of least resistance ... like india etc. so not sure if the "money people" will be keen on "ad spend" | 11:04 |
RichEd | Versus applied project spend | 11:04 |
mhz | RichEd: in Chile and other countries we're getting together to form the Institute of Free Software for Latinamerica. Edubuntu is the king in such realms | 11:05 |
cbx33 | if we're going to shower the auths with details they must see us ..... in the field like everyone else | 11:05 |
cbx33 | RichEd, I understand | 11:05 |
cbx33 | on a side note, did that spreadsheet seem ok? | 11:05 |
RichEd | But will table all suggestions when I have to present a plan to Mark in week 1 Aug in London | 11:05 |
RichEd | I'll try to cover all bases in suggestions ... but he will probably direct resource & money priorities | 11:06 |
cbx33 | sure | 11:06 |
RichEd | cbx33: looks good on first pass ... will revise & comment | 11:06 |
cbx33 | ok cool | 11:06 |
RichEd | cbx33 and I will set up a template for "conference funding requests" so the foramt is consistent when we ask for $ | 11:07 |
cbx33 | yes | 11:07 |
RichEd | that's all from me for now. | 11:07 |
highvoltage | ogra | 11:07 |
cbx33 | we at time up aren't we? | 11:07 |
highvoltage | ogra said he had something to say | 11:08 |
RichEd | mhz: please send details re South America :) | 11:08 |
AliasVegas | remember everyone... email me you artwork comments! :) | 11:08 |
ogra | highvoltage, i already did | 11:08 |
highvoltage | oh ok :) | 11:08 |
ogra | highvoltage, we'll probably get in german TV | 11:08 |
highvoltage | aah | 11:08 |
mhz | sure, RichEd. In fact, I sent about 5 emails to Mark telling what is going on, and that we needed help...no response. | 11:08 |
ogra | with some additional advantage of a bunch of schools in byern switching to edubuntu :) | 11:09 |
ogra | *bayern | 11:09 |
mhz | RichEd: politically it is the time for being agressive in LAm, so is the time for market | 11:09 |
RichEd | mhz: i think i'm supposed to help him with this ... filter & digest & consolidate ... preserve bandwidth | 11:09 |
RichEd | and i wil respond :) | 11:09 |
mhz | RichEd: sure, I undersand | 11:09 |
RichEd | will <- will | 11:09 |
mhz | RichEd: and I will pke if not :D | 11:10 |
mhz | poke | 11:10 |
=== RichEd puts on chain mail protection | ||
mhz | hehehe | 11:10 |
HedgeMage | lol | 11:10 |
ogra | heh | 11:10 |
highvoltage | RichEd: i just set up a filter for mhz | 11:10 |
cbx33 | mhz, use a tazer :p | 11:10 |
mhz | lol | 11:10 |
mhz | not yet, let's see him in action firts | 11:11 |
=== RichEd puts up a farce field | ||
HedgeMage | cbx33: that's just evil... I like it ;) | 11:11 |
mhz | cbx33: remember he may fight back ;) | 11:11 |
HedgeMage | RichEd: lol freudian slip? | 11:11 |
ogra | heh | 11:11 |
RichEd | nope .. that one was quite intentional ;) | 11:11 |
cbx33 | hadn't thought of that | 11:11 |
=== highvoltage is having trouble staying awake | ||
mhz | cbx33: but I can throw him a WinXP CD and license | 11:11 |
mhz | ;) | 11:11 |
HedgeMage | highvoltage: so go to sleep :P | 11:11 |
ogra | highvoltage, thast the danger if you sit in bed while meeting :) | 11:11 |
RichEd | is your "laptop" calling highvoltage ? | 11:12 |
ogra | hahaha | 11:12 |
highvoltage | ogra: i'm actually lying, probably more dangerous :) | 11:12 |
cbx33 | ooooh | 11:12 |
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cbx33 | lying..... | 11:12 |
RichEd | remember some virus protection please | 11:12 |
=== cbx33 doesn't want any more details | ||
ogra | i think we're also 12 mins over time .... | 11:12 |
ogra | so we should probably close here and move over to ur own room :) | 11:13 |
=== LaserJock wonders about Paris ;-) | ||
ogra | LaserJock, tell us :) | 11:13 |
highvoltage | LaserJock: hey! i've seen you in bed with your wife's laptop too! | 11:13 |
ogra | haha | 11:13 |
LaserJock | shush | 11:13 |
LaserJock | ;-) | 11:13 |
ogra | ok, any other stuff ? | 11:14 |
=== RichEd is done | ||
ogra | going once | 11:14 |
AliasVegas | remember everyone... email me you artwork comments! :) | 11:14 |
highvoltage | this has been a nice buzzy meeting | 11:14 |
ogra | going twice | 11:14 |
ogra | AliasVegas, i'll nag them ;) | 11:14 |
cbx33 | test grasynco | 11:14 |
mhz | AliasVegas: yeah, but URL? | 11:14 |
ogra | yeah, test the milestone CDs ! | 11:14 |
highvoltage | mhz: that's comments of previous releae | 11:15 |
ogra | report BUGS !! | 11:15 |
ogra | meeting .... | 11:15 |
highvoltage | may the force be with you. | 11:15 |
ogra | .... adjourned | 11:15 |
LaserJock | \o/ | 11:15 |
ogra | thanks everyone ! | 11:15 |
cbx33 | phew | 11:15 |
ogra | :) | 11:15 |
mhz | THX all! | 11:15 |
=== cbx33 is not looking forward to minuting that one | ||
RichEd | thanks all ... nice to meet you and great to be on board | 11:15 |
ogra | lol | 11:15 |
AliasVegas | :) | 11:15 |
ogra | cbx33, we had worse ones :) | 11:15 |
cbx33 | hehe | 11:16 |
ogra | actually i found that one very productive :) | 11:16 |
ogra | in all areas ... | 11:16 |
HedgeMage | :) | 11:16 |
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=== HedgeMage too | ||
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AliasVegas | night guys! :) | 11:21 |
teolemon | good night | 11:22 |
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