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[09:44] ~15 minutes [09:46] k === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 20 Jul 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 21 Jul 19:00 UTC: Ubuntu Marketing Team | 26 Jul 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 27 Jul 23:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 01 Aug 20:00 UTC: Technical Board === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mhz gets some coffee [09:58] good idea === ogra makes some === AliasVegas [n=lisa@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:59] too late in the afternoon foe coffee here === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-146-132-138.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === HedgeMage makes iced tea [10:00] for all of us? ;) [10:00] meep [10:00] here [10:00] oooh thanky Hawkwind [10:00] whoops [10:00] HedgeMage, === ogra waits a second for his cofee to finish ... and to raise the tension :) [10:00] greetz === mhz makes coffee, colombian nice one, for all [10:01] hehe === highvoltage is in bed with laptop, but still awake [10:01] lol === cbx33 prods highvoltage [10:01] get out of bed :p [10:01] laptop ... some kind of euphemism ? [10:01] ouch [10:01] rofl [10:01] mtg be good for highvoltage's sake [10:01] eeeewwww [10:01] RichEd: luckily not === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:02] ok, lets go :) === cbx33 starts running round the meeting room [10:03] oh you mean the meeting.... [10:03] not much on the tech side as usual :) [10:03] we have a knot 1 milestone CD [10:03] the first knot is tied, right? [10:03] w00t [10:03] :) [10:03] which in fact took me since friday to get everything right [10:03] anyone install it yet? [10:03] not yet [10:04] but now we have something we can break [10:04] muhahaha [10:04] mhuhaha === cbx33 volunteers to break things === ogra pokes rodarvus with an evil look in his eyes [10:04] knot-1 is all but released, yet. That is, I'll release it tomorrow morning, since I've drunk something closer to a bottle of wine now and I don't think I should futz around with cd images then. :-P === soviet [i=www-data@208.195.214.137] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:04] s/yet/yes/ [10:04] Mithrandir, well, it wont change anymore :) [10:04] enjoy your wine :) === highvoltage will download tomorrow [10:05] and the hangover [10:05] ogra: true. :-) === dan_young [n=dyoung@fw13x.mesd.k12.or.us] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:05] highvoltage, keep the iso around so you can try cbx33's gui sync tool ;) [10:05] I was gonna mention that [10:05] if anyone is interested in beta testing grasynco === mhz wanna plays with it too! [10:05] hi [10:05] sorry [10:05] it's on REVU at the moment [10:06] soo ... apart from that there is not much n the tech side ... [10:06] I was concentrated updating libx11 [10:06] and also on LP [10:06] ogra: i intend to do that! === rodarvus reads the backlog [10:06] may I ask you all to keep a backup of the isos....just in case [10:06] the ltsp tarball builder script is nearly done ... [10:06] :D [10:06] :) [10:06] unless you don;t mind downloading again [10:06] cbx33: just beware, I'm quite crazy with feature requests, just ask ogra :) [10:06] the first try can be seen on http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-tarballs/ [10:07] highvoltage, that's cool [10:07] I'll try to accomodate [10:07] highvoltage, heh, yes, you are (sometimes :) ) [10:07] where are we with specs? [10:07] ogra: have ltsp upsream made any announcement yet? [10:07] LaserJock, SCP is still lacking some love, i'll jump on that tomorrow ... === cbx33 will be jumping on that too [10:08] highvoltage, nope, the system needs to run automatically [10:08] but I'll wait till ogra has finished [10:08] otherwise people may talk :p [10:08] ogra: LTSP specs are looking good? [10:08] what you see on the url is the first test run [10:08] ogra: what would be the difference between those tarballs ans a standard Edubuntu ltsp chroot? [10:08] LaserJock, well, the udeb is ready now to add the dhcp stuff ... SCP isnt approved yet but i had no time to fix stuff, mdz is notified [10:08] ogra: are they mostly the same so far? [10:09] ltspfs stuff isnt started yet [10:09] k [10:09] highvoltage, they are 100% the same [10:09] If anyone's interested, we are planning a meeting for Edubuntu Handbook (formerly Cookbook) Friday at 21:30 (just scheduled, so may not be on fridge yet, I'll post to the mailing lists momentarily) [10:09] but we'll have arch specific ones ;) [10:09] ok. so no need to download then. [10:09] HedgeMage, docs are next [10:10] ogra: oops, sorry [10:10] highvoltage, nope, but if you ever want powerpc clients you can just grab the tarball ;) [10:10] ogra: i'll keep that in mind! [10:10] no need for fiddling around with nfs exports [10:10] i'll probably make an installer package that downloads and unpacks it [10:11] with a cbx33 front-end? [10:11] so you can install ltsp-multiarch-powerpc [10:11] *g* [10:11] heh [10:11] highvoltage, if you really really want it :p [10:11] or ltsp-multiarch-sparc ;) [10:11] cbx33: of course :) [10:11] dang it :p [10:11] highvoltage, well, that should be an extra tab in ltsp-manager rather :) [10:12] cbx33: the LTSP people would love that [10:12] soo ... [10:12] highvoltage, wanna mail me a brief outline [10:12] thats all from the tech side for this week ... i have noting t addd [10:12] sometime and I'll see what I can dig up [10:12] documentation ? [10:12] cbx33: sure, we can chat about it tomorrow on #edubuntu, then send to the mailing list and get some larger input [10:12] sure [10:13] we can build it onto ogras ltsp manager [10:13] HedgeMage, the CookBook was renamed ? [10:13] cool. [10:13] ogra: yep, at our last meeting. [10:13] HedgeMage, tell us about it, since not everyone was there :) [10:13] please [10:14] ogra: Since it's not quite a cookbook format any more, we decided to vote for a new title... people posted suggestions to the wiki and our last meeting was a vote [10:14] it's now the "Edubuntu Handbook" [10:14] great [10:14] :D [10:14] Same fun stuff, new title :) [10:14] EHB [10:15] i think it's a good idea, merely because it will eliminate confusion about all the previous cookbook attempts :) [10:15] I agree [10:15] yup [10:15] yup [10:15] That's the icing on the cake :) [10:15] heh [10:15] lol [10:15] and it will be more 'handy' :D [10:16] Anyhow, we have a meeting on Friday, wiki info is at http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuHandbook [10:16] btw LaserJock was praised in http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1990777,00.asp :) [10:16] also on documentation, does anyone know what the best way is, and whether we should, get the edubuntu docs on http://help.ubuntu.com? [10:16] I haven't updated the meeting page yet since this was scheduled literally 5 minutes ago :) [10:16] highvoltage, I talked with mdke about that a while ago [10:16] highvoltage, all wiki docs are there already [10:16] all the other official ubuntu distros docs are there, I think Edubuntu should be there too, since people would ask. [10:16] you need permissions to create new pages [10:17] ogra: it's not listed on the front page: http://help.ubuntu.com [10:17] oh [10:17] but they imported all our pages ... i have a painful slow redirect for nearly every wikipage [10:17] is anything going to be done about the ssl certificate on the wiki? [10:17] i dont think so [10:18] grrr [10:18] i could raise it agan ... but paied certs are not the best topic to dicuss with mark somehow :) [10:18] yes, I think I'll ping mdke this weekend and ask if he could add an Edubuntu section on the frontpage of help. [10:18] it is not wiki's fault (not moin) [10:18] ok [10:18] mhz, I know [10:18] ogra, ok cool [10:18] mhz, we have bought one afaik, but thats limited to ubuntu.com [10:18] highvoltage, yes good idea [10:19] grr! [10:19] :) [10:19] that's ironic. [10:19] I'll do the same, as I'm owed a creatoin account on help.ubuntu.com i think :p === peterretief [n=peter@PET-181740-C-112-30.saoldsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:19] highvoltage: we would have to ship something to put it in help.ubuntu.com [10:19] but, isn't markie related to Certificates? [10:19] LaserJock: does it need to be in a certain format? [10:19] Riddell, do you know anything about the certs ? i know you asked about them [10:19] highvoltage: hi [10:20] highvoltage: those docs are created from the doc team svn repo [10:20] mhz: it's how he made his money :) [10:20] hi peterretief [10:20] yeah, hence my point [10:20] ogra: filed an rt request, not heard anything back, feel free to poke harder [10:20] mhz, quote: "i've seen enough certs in my life" [10:20] lol [10:21] :) [10:21] Riddell, rt # ? [10:21] lol [10:21] ogra: no idea, it was ages ago [10:21] LaserJock: we could probably get someone from docteam to help us out? there should be some people who are common in edubuntu-doc and ubuntu-doc that I'm sure would assist. [10:21] Riddell, lol, ok [10:21] highvoltage: umm, jerome and I are happy to help [10:21] highvoltage, what about jerome === ogra doubts we'll get one :) [10:22] LaserJock: excellent :) [10:22] highvoltage: edubuntu school advocacy is already on doc.ubuntu.com [10:22] is it ? [10:22] crikey [10:22] highvoltage: mdke made an Edubuntu css [10:22] is it??? === cbx33 must have missed that one [10:22] wasnt that renamed ? [10:22] great. so it just needs a link from the home page. [10:22] yes, I had them make an Edubuntu section [10:22] doc.ubuntu.com [10:23] on the right there is an Edubuntu section [10:23] doc.ubuntu.com is meant for work in progress, right? [10:23] I see [10:23] yes [10:23] doc.ubuntu.com represents our svn repo [10:23] ESA is completed, isn't it? [10:23] is there the possibility of ESA making it onto help.ubuntu.com? === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D999C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:24] or is that not the place for it? [10:24] lovely http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html [10:24] cbx33: thinking the same thing here :) [10:24] help.ubuntu.com has what has been shipped [10:24] wow, esa is impressive [10:24] i think ESA should be on help.ubuntu.com as well. [10:24] we have a doc team meeting on Friday [10:24] we try ogra :p [10:24] I can ask [10:24] thanks LaserJock [10:25] so far we have only put the docs that were shipped on CD on help.ubuntu.com [10:25] highvoltage, it is [10:25] I have a half finished case study, using some of the stuff from esa [10:25] the ESA gets everywhere [10:25] ogra: i can't find it [10:26] wow ... your doc work is massively impressive guys :) === mhz is happy some folks will have no excuse to translate ESA into spanish now [10:26] highvoltage, the link mhz pasted [10:26] yes please [10:26] so from the doc team's perspective I think we are ready to go, we just need content [10:26] highvoltage: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html [10:26] ogra: that's on doc.ubuntu.com, not on help.ubuntu.com [10:26] I passed the esa to RichEd to pass onto the canonical marketting dept [10:26] highvoltage: yeah, good point [10:26] highvoltage, aww, now i understand [10:26] cbx33, good ! [10:26] yep ... got it open .. will review & coment [10:26] please, not redirections this time [10:27] ;) [10:27] RichEd, if you want my page mockups feel free to take those [10:27] okay [10:27] they were a mock of what the pamphlet could look like [10:27] hang on I'll grab a link [10:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy [10:28] ignore everything on the page [10:28] apart from the 4 images at the bottom [10:28] hehe [10:28] heh [10:28] tx [10:28] I'll delete it I think [10:28] cbx33: where's the mockup? [10:28] down the very bottom [10:29] oh, still downloading [10:29] thx [10:29] sorry [10:29] that was our wip page [10:29] cbx33: nice mockup idea [10:29] ESA started like that before any text was written really :p [10:30] :) [10:30] anyway, if anybody wants docs to go on doc.ubuntu.com (and eventually help.ubuntu.com) please let the doc team or at least jerome or I know [10:30] cbx33: I am working on one for Chile (with Chilean colors) [10:30] LaserJock: ok [10:30] sounds like doc discussion is quieting down? [10:30] well, then lets move on [10:31] aaaaaaartwork [10:31] whoops [10:31] that KBD! [10:31] ;) [10:31] i think you missed an 'a' there [10:31] Hi everyone [10:31] heh, i'm not 100% used to it yet :) [10:31] AliasVegas: hi [10:31] hi AliasVegas. just in time :) [10:31] hey AliasVegas nice to see you ! [10:31] hi AliasVegas [10:31] I'm really glad that so many people like the edubuntu wallpaper that I did, and I think it's crucial to build on the success of that in the edgy release. [10:32] yay === HedgeMage wants to request that someone with more talent than HedgeMage start thinking about appropriate cover art for the Handbook [10:32] HedgeMage: I can propose something [10:32] Yeah, I'll see what I can do if you want [10:32] AliasVegas: I've set you as administrator on the artwork team, sorry, should have done that earlier :) === mhz is forced to have more time now [10:32] What I thought we could do, to make a quick start is just ask for a single line from everyone on what they dislike about the dapper theme (if anything), but to be precise. Not just, I don't like the chalkboard, but why don't you like the chalkboard, too commercial etc? [10:33] AliasVegas, great idea ! [10:33] AliasVegas: yeah [10:33] Then just another single line about what you would like to see in edgy? [10:33] good idea, AliasVegas :) [10:33] yup [10:33] AliasVegas: I didn't like the orange hilight in the gtk theme. [10:33] I was going to then work from these to collate a plan on how we should proceed with the new themes and artwork. I have some initial ideas, but I don't want to develop them if there are elements which are not going to work or be to peoples liking. [10:33] I'll start noting these down [10:33] highvoltage, by mail :) [10:33] heheh [10:33] thanks [10:34] mail would be better [10:34] oh yes, of course :) [10:34] Don't like: The green chalkboard thing clashes with our red gtk-theme, lacking theme-coordinating icons for some apps I like [10:34] ok [10:34] to edubuntu-devel? or to AliasVegas? [10:34] so could anyone who wants to participate say +1 so i know whom i have to nag ? ;) [10:34] +1 [10:34] edubuntu-users wouild be best I think [10:34] +1 [10:34] AliasVegas: nice idea, btw [10:34] um, could we have edubuntu-artwork ? [10:34] +1 [10:35] mailing list ? [10:35] +1 [10:35] +1 [10:35] would that be useful? [10:35] cbx33: i've thought about it before, I think it's at the stage where it's ready for it [10:35] cbx33, how many people would we have on there ? [10:35] anyone with an interest in artwork I'm presuming right AliasVegas ? [10:35] not sure if edubuntu-artwork mailinig list would have critical mass [10:35] I would think -devel and -users would be sufficent [10:35] there are 20 people in launchpad who have volunteered to contribute to artwork [10:35] cbx33, i want a number :) [10:35] in other words, would probably become a semi-dead mailing list [10:35] they would all be added to the new list [10:35] that's already a good start. [10:36] yeah [10:36] Hmm.... [10:36] those who do not wish to be part can then be de-activated from the team. [10:36] yeah [10:36] https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-artwork/+members [10:36] I just wonder that in order to get the artowrk team off the ground, they should have their own ML? === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:36] just my 2 cents [10:36] or.. keep using -devel but adding [ART] [10:36] on subject [10:36] just my 2 cents [10:37] eek, we have 4 cents! [10:37] cbx33, i will need to give an estimated number of initial subscribers ... its not useful to have a list for 10 people ... [10:37] i wonder if everyone on the launchapd team would be willing to subscribe to edubuntu-devel, we could probably try and ask them [10:38] I get so much spam from that channel? [10:38] ogra: we already have at least 20 people! :) [10:38] cbx33: no you don't [10:38] cbx33: you get admin requests ;) [10:38] i get spam too [10:38] cbx33: BTW, I have no logs regarding pwd for ML admin tasks, could you PM it to me, please? [10:38] sure [10:39] highvoltage, well, i havent seen much new artwork during dapper, that was more widespread in breezy [10:39] the quality raised immensely though :) [10:39] ogra: AliasVegas is in town now ;) [10:39] yeah ! :) [10:39] I want to setup an edubuntu-artwork meeting, for anyone who has any interest in artwork/themes to come along to, so we can really start to brainstorm and get the process moving. If anyone has some suggestions about times that would be great ;) [10:39] ogra: i think the announcement that canonical would use a paid-for company for artwork killed things a bit, imho :/ [10:40] but still ... she will surely need support ... [10:40] highvoltage, I agree [10:40] highvoltage, yep [10:40] AliasVegas: i have a couple of suggestions but based on my UTC [10:40] highvoltage, but it was like that before as well ... [10:40] (my TZ) [10:40] just that nobody announced it before :) [10:40] does this kinda time suit mhz ? [10:41] cbx33: nope [10:41] 12 UTC? [10:41] 11 UTC [10:41] ogra: i beg to differ, if you go to art.ubuntu.com, you'll see quite a few wallpapers that were made for breezy, some of them not too bad [10:41] so I can be before leaving house [10:41] cbx33: or 23 UTC [10:41] :D [10:41] highvoltage, http://art.ubuntu.com/ [10:41] its down [10:41] 23 UTC.... [10:42] AliasVegas, will be in bed then [10:42] :p [10:42] lol [10:42] highvoltage: yeah, like the darkones I did because I prefer black for kids :D [10:42] we can discuss times later [10:42] ogra: click on "Edubuntu" on the right. it still works [10:42] oh no its redesigned :P [10:42] http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/edubuntu/ [10:42] yep [10:42] I'm also going to post a notice to the ubuntu-artwork mailing list explaining where we are at this stage and ask for volunteers to help edubuntu in this release. [10:42] cbx33: then , we could rotate ;) [10:42] i know them, i added most of them there [10:42] sure mhz [10:42] I'm sure AliasVegas would be ok with that [10:43] cbx33: if meetings are weekly, 3 or 4 diff UTCs is good [10:43] 2 sounds good [10:43] like edubuntu [10:43] cbx33: the thing is I am looking for a job now, so most likely is I wont have time for IRC during working hours ;( [10:43] ogra, can I ask, how much are we at liberty to change in this release, just wallpapers/splashes, or icons, theme colours too? cbx33 was talking to me about the work he was doing on his new ubrander project, and I wondered how much gtk-rc editing had been done in the past? [10:43] ogra: all of those wallpapers in art.ubuntu.com came from the breezy release cycle [10:44] fair enough :) [10:44] AliasVegas, i'm sure it must be done in communication with the artteam ... [10:44] so that we have a recognizable ubuntu look for all distros ... [10:45] .oO(hmmm, the *buntu look) [10:45] ok that sounds cool [10:45] a kind of CI [10:45] Not much more to say really, I'm conscious of the time factors involved and have just finished some of my paid freelance work, so I should have some more time to devote to getting the ball rolling here. [10:45] but we'll surely have freedom about colors, icons splash screens gdm login theme bootsplash etc [10:45] ok :) [10:46] there is only some small gtkrc editing been doneby me [10:46] mostly adjusting colors [10:47] (based on a completely different orange wallpaper btw) [10:47] right [10:47] AliasVegas: i am VERY interested in creating 'artwork' for Stands (posters, stuff to hang -no idea about english name for it , stand look, etc) [10:47] mhz, cool [10:48] and all related to merchandising [10:48] Edubuntu based, of course [10:48] I'd need that if BETT2007 went ahead [10:48] that's awesome, mhz [10:48] Posters sounds like a cool idea [10:48] mhz, ++ === cbx33 imagines darting around town on his blades putting up edubuntu posters all around town [10:48] yeah, Teachers loved the idea of having Edubuntu T-Shirts for Labs [10:48] then getting nicked by the rozzers :p [10:48] hehe cbx33 [10:49] and then I thought about Posters for Edubuntu Labs (with messages for the users) [10:49] I love the idea of t-shirts [10:49] yep [10:49] mhz, heheh.... "Got root....no...cos if you did you'd break things" [10:49] lol [10:49] I think I just found my new tagline :p [10:49] but posters at least for booths would be grreat [10:49] cbx33: they can have root on the ro local filesystem :) [10:50] hahaha [10:50] give them the illusion [10:50] heh [10:50] yeah, we need promo material so people (human beings) know Edubuntu is not just an OS, it is meant for "YOU" [10:50] awww [10:50]