| imbrandon | grr how can i tell wth is using a mount so i can kill -9 it and umount | 12:09 |
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| imbrandon | fuser or some such | 12:09 |
| StevenK | fuser -m /mnt | 12:11 |
| StevenK | If that doesn't work, wield lsof | 12:12 |
| imbrandon | losf | 12:13 |
| imbrandon | yea fuser -m nothing | 12:13 |
| micahcowan | lsof | 12:13 |
| micahcowan | = list open files | 12:13 |
| imbrandon | thanks | 12:15 |
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| Fujitsu | Hmm... My apt-watch build failed on the ia64 buildd due to dependencies. | 12:28 |
| Fujitsu | libpanel-applet2-dev: Depends: libpanel-applet2-0 (= 2.14.2-1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed | 12:29 |
| Fujitsu | Depends: libgnomeui-dev (>= 2.10.0-1) but it is not going to be installed | 12:29 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: try installing those other two packages? | 12:31 |
| Fujitsu | I don't have control over any ia64 machines, so no. | 12:31 |
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| Fujitsu | What about it? | 12:33 |
| slomo | Fujitsu: should be fixed by a give-back on ia64... afaik all gnome packages should be fine on ia64 now | 12:33 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. Thanks... Will it be automatically rebuilt? | 12:33 |
| Fujitsu | I haven't had cause to merge packages before 24 hours ago, so I don't know those packages. | 12:35 |
| Fujitsu | *those processes | 12:35 |
| slomo | not automatically unless it is on dep-wait | 12:35 |
| Fujitsu | slomo, how can I force it to? | 12:40 |
| slomo | Fujitsu: ask someone from the buildd admins to do it... https://launchpad.net/people/launchpad-buildd-admins | 12:42 |
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| philipacamaniac | I'm trying to manually build a binary debian package (no source). The program (ghamachi) installs and works great, except that I can't get a menu item added for the life of me. In the debian chroot, I've added a ./usr/share/applications/ghamachi.desktop and a ./usr/share/menu/ghamachi, but it doesn't show up in the menu. | 01:36 |
| crimsun | what do you mean in the debian chroot? | 01:36 |
| philipacamaniac | er, umm... you know, you're making a binary package, and you put everything in {packagename-packageversion} folder | 01:37 |
| philipacamaniac | I'm not familiar with terminology, but that's where I build my package from | 01:38 |
| crimsun | chroot has special significance, which is why I was confused | 01:38 |
| philipacamaniac | sorry, my mistake... should I clarify more? | 01:39 |
| crimsun | are the desktop and menu files in debian/ in the extracted source package? | 01:39 |
| philipacamaniac | ah - see that's the problem. this particular app has no source, so I'm trying to manually build a binary package. I know that's a no-no, but I want to do it anyway. | 01:40 |
| philipacamaniac | so there is no extracted source package | 01:40 |
| crimsun | ok. Are you rerolling the deb with the desktop and menu files in place, then? | 01:42 |
| crimsun | And I presume the desktop file is actually valid? | 01:42 |
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| crimsun | (use desktop-file-validate from the 'desktop-file-utils' package) | 01:43 |
| Toadstool | grah... it's 2am and I can't sleep... | 01:45 |
| crimsun | quick, merges | 01:46 |
| Toadstool | :) | 01:46 |
| crimsun | ;-) | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:47 |
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| Hobbsee | zul: thought that was my job :P | 01:50 |
| zul | thats for kubuntu isnt it? | 01:51 |
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| Hobbsee | zul: could be for any of them | 01:52 |
| zul | fine then..*put* | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | zul: go ahead and be the whip cracker today :P | 01:52 |
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| zul | meh...i think ill crack the whip on myself :P | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:53 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | Is there a reason that we can't use pre-built binaries in creating packages? | 02:06 |
| crimsun | FunnyLookinHat: yes. It has to build from source to be in universe. | 02:07 |
| micahcowan | What about bootstrapped packages, like gcc? gcc is obviously core, but other things, such as FreeBASIC... | 02:10 |
| crimsun | admins by-hand. | 02:10 |
| micahcowan | I'm not grokking that sentence. | 02:11 |
| crimsun | If something needs to be bootstrapped, the admins by-hand it (do it manually). | 02:11 |
| micahcowan | So, the source package is created as normal, and the creation of the binaries is handled manually? | 02:13 |
| crimsun | installation | 02:14 |
| crimsun | for instance, gcl | 02:14 |
| crimsun | need a newer gcl, so it's built as normal and installed in the chroot by the admins | 02:15 |
| micahcowan | But isn't gcl written in C? | 02:17 |
| crimsun | if something requires a newer gcl | 02:17 |
| crimsun | it's the same process for anything that needs a manual bootstrap | 02:17 |
| segfault | did the upload process change? | 02:18 |
| micahcowan | But for something like FreeBASIC, where it's written in... itself... it can't be built at all without FreeBASIC in the first place. | 02:18 |
| segfault | i've sent a package using dput, but it didn't show up in revu | 02:18 |
| crimsun | micahcowan: just like gcc can't be compiled without itself | 02:18 |
| crimsun | micahcowan: so you use an existing version, which can be built from source, which is hand-installed by an admin | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | segfault: are you in the group listed in the last link of the /topic? | 02:19 |
| crimsun | micahcowan: gcc follows a slightly different path, but the idea is that the admin is trusted enough to deal with the binaries | 02:19 |
| segfault | crimsun: yes | 02:20 |
| crimsun | segfault: ? | 02:20 |
| micahcowan | crimsun: I think I'm understanding now... so the admins install the precompiled binaries in the places where they would be expected to be if they'd actually been installed from a package, and then build the packages as normal? | 02:20 |
| segfault | hobbsee: yes | 02:20 |
| segfault | oops | 02:20 |
| segfault | sorry | 02:20 |
| crimsun | micahcowan: yep | 02:20 |
| micahcowan | crimsun, gotcha: thanks a bunch. | 02:20 |
| crimsun | np | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: how does one write a hooks script for pbuilder? | 02:21 |
| Fujitsu | crimsun (or another MOTU), I've got two new merges on http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/merges | 02:21 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: ^^ | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:22 |
| Toadstool | Hobbsee: with your favourite text editor? :) | 02:22 |
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| Hobbsee | Toadstool: yeah, but what sort of thing is it? like, bash scripting or something? | 02:22 |
| Toadstool | mine are bash scripts | 02:23 |
| crimsun | sh or perl for starters | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: ie, i want it to sudo pbuilder login, cp from the resulting dir to wherever it's now building, dpkg -i *.deb, and apt-get -f install. | 02:23 |
| crimsun | otherwise you need to set up the env yourself | 02:23 |
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| crimsun | documented in pbuilder(8) ;-) | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: what scripts are you using? | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | er, hooks? | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: yeah, i'm reading it now | 02:24 |
| Toadstool | Hobbsee: a script launching lintian -i on the .changes files if the build is successful and a login script if the build fails | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: nice! so you never test if it's installable? | 02:25 |
| Toadstool | yes, of course but i don't do that with pbuilder hooks for the moment | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | ah, you could test if it was installable or not by sudo pbuilder exectute, i suspect | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: ah okay. may i have your other spiffy script? | 02:26 |
| Toadstool | yep, of course | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: to hobbsee@kubuntu.org ? | 02:26 |
| Toadstool | ok | 02:26 |
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| === Hawkwind Hides, quickly | ||
| Hobbsee | hah | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | Hawkwind: i already get spammed - gmail filters most of it. | 02:27 |
| segfault | no clue about revu? | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | segfault: only that your key isnt synced with the keyring yet | 02:31 |
| Toadstool | Hobbsee: mail sent | 02:31 |
| crimsun | segfault: the keyrings are still synced by hand | 02:31 |
| segfault | humm | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: cool :) | 02:31 |
| segfault | and how do i sync it? | 02:31 |
| crimsun | segfault: it'll be a little bit before an admin proccesses it. | 02:31 |
| segfault | ah, thanks. | 02:31 |
| crimsun | processes. | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: got it, thanks | 02:34 |
| Toadstool | np | 02:34 |
| === Hobbsee looks at how to modify it. | ||
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| Hobbsee | Toadstool: maybe i'm an idiot today, but what about all the other stuff in .pbuilderrc? | 02:39 |
| Toadstool | Hobbsee: always executed | 02:39 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt undersatnd | ||
| Toadstool | well, I don't understand what you don't understand :) | 02:42 |
| ajmitch | afternoon | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | hi ajmitch | 02:42 |
| crimsun | 'lo | 02:42 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: need me to resync the revu keyring? | 02:42 |
| Toadstool | heya ajmitch | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: i've already got http://rafb.net/paste/results/VJjsRg10.html in pbuilderrc (well, it's more complicated, because there are two, and in a complex location) | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | oh hmm...i know... | 02:43 |
| crimsun | ajmitch: for segfault, I believe | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | right, it's syncing now | 02:44 |
| crimsun | segfault: ^^ | 02:44 |
| ajmitch | segfault: what was the package uploaded? | 02:44 |
| Toadstool | Hobbsee: you don't really need what's in my pbuilderrc, it's just random pieces of shell script to have cleaner results imho | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: ah okay...so it can be safely ignored? | 02:46 |
| Toadstool | yep | 02:46 |
| ajmitch | segfault: never mind, I found it, it'll hopefully be on REVU in a couple of minutes | 02:48 |
| segfault | ajmitch: thanks | 03:06 |
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| ajmitch | segfault: what's the purpose of this update? the only change I see is changing the standards version? | 03:21 |
| segfault | ajmitch: updating to edgy too, and its 0.1b and dappers version is older | 03:22 |
| === ajmitch is comparing it to the version previously on REVU | ||
| LaserJock | ack, is there a way to wget all the files in a directory via http? | 03:23 |
| ajmitch | so the one on REVU didn't make it into dapper? | 03:23 |
| Lathiat | --mirror --no-parent | 03:23 |
| segfault | ajmitch: it did, but i uploaded a new version | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | ok | 03:24 |
| segfault | can anyone review it? | 03:26 |
| segfault | i have a package which upstream just opened its svn, what do i need to change in my package? | 03:33 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | I don't see the purpose of using a pbuilder... if I am creating a package with debhelper how do I invoke using pbuilder (and for what reason)? | 04:12 |
| sharms | FunnyLookinHat: I make a source package (dpkg-buildpackage -S -us -uc -rfakeroot) then do a sudo pbuilder build package.dsc | 04:13 |
| sharms | FunnyLookinHat: it allows me to keep my system clean from packages I don't need, and contain the build process in a seperate, and clean environment | 04:14 |
| LaserJock | it lets you know if your deps are right too becuse it is basically the same set of packages that the build machines have | 04:15 |
| LaserJock | so if it builds in a pbuilder it *should* build on the Ubuntu machines | 04:16 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | Ahhh ok. | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: should. | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:22 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Why (in this tutorial) is it having me grab the source for hello-debhelper... that makes no sense because why would I get the source from a repo if it isn't there yet. | 04:23 |
| LaserJock | well, it depends on if you pbuiler is updated, etc. | 04:23 |
| LaserJock | FunnyLookinHat: because I thought it would be nice to have a real life example | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: it's great, having a real life example | 04:23 |
| sharms | FunnyLookinHat: I made my build system upgrade to edgy | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: the updating a package stuff is confusing. | 04:24 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 04:24 |
| FunnyLookinHat | hmm... so I am going to just be comparing it to what I create.... | 04:24 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Got it. i think. ; ) | 04:24 |
| LaserJock | sort of, I could have done it a bit better I think, but it was my first try ;-) | 04:24 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: I'll be digging around for contributions soon ;-) | 04:25 |
| FunnyLookinHat | LaserJock, you did fine, i'm just way too tired to be trying this but it's the first free time I've found : ) | 04:25 |
| sharms | FunnyLookinHat: did you check out the mentors program? | 04:26 |
| sharms | Having a mentor is helping me tremendously | 04:26 |
| sharms | not in spelling, but packaging | 04:26 |
| FunnyLookinHat | sharms, I saw a post about it... I should probably look into it, shouldn't I? | 04:26 |
| FunnyLookinHat | haha | 04:26 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm hoping we will have a MOTU School session soon for you guys | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: heh. thought you might be. i do actually have an old log that's pretty helpful with that | 04:27 |
| FunnyLookinHat | What is the purpose of the .ex files (since they appear to only be used in complicated package builds) | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | they are example files (hence .ex) | 04:28 |
| LaserJock | you remove the .ex if you are actually going to use them | 04:28 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ooh i see. | 04:28 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: the new and improved outline is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide | 04:31 |
| LaserJock | ack, I seemed to have lost Kubuntu! :( | 04:32 |
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| Hobbsee | ouch. | 04:33 |
| LaserJock | actually, I think my plan was to drop it as a section | 04:34 |
| LaserJock | but to integrate it throughout, where appropriate | 04:34 |
| LaserJock | because I didn't have a lot of material and it seem kinda out of place | 04:34 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: if you can come up with some Kubuntu specific packaging tips/things people need to know, that's be appreciated | 04:35 |
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| LaserJock | although I don't have anything Gnome specific so ... | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: okay. a lot of us are getting bitten by the autoconf bug. | 04:35 |
| sharms | what is the autoconf bug | 04:36 |
| FunnyLookinHat | How exactly do I use gnupg to setup my key (never set one up before... oh dear) | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | !gpg > FunnyLookinHat | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | sharms: kde whinges about autoconf being too new | 04:39 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ty! | 04:39 |
| sharms | FunnyLookinHat: I recommend using seahorse | 04:39 |
| FunnyLookinHat | !seahorse | 04:40 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about seahorse - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 04:40 |
| FunnyLookinHat | seahorse? | 04:40 |
| sharms | if I want to make a package for ogre, and debian only has an old version, can I just package the new one for ubuntu or do I need to request them to upgrade it? | 04:41 |
| sharms | FunnyLookinHat: GUI key manager, apt-get install seahorse | 04:41 |
| FunnyLookinHat | sharms, ahh ok | 04:42 |
| === jsgotangco showers confetti to LaserJock | ||
| === LaserJock takes a bow | ||
| LaserJock | "First of all I'd like to thank..." | 04:44 |
| === Hobbsee mutes LaserJock. | ||
| LaserJock | everybody! | 04:45 |
| === sharms cheers | ||
| Hobbsee | sharms: you can use the old debian, and upgrade it yourself | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: :_ | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:45 |
| sharms | Hobbsee: Yeah I just didnt know if it was faux pa to jump ahead of debian | 04:45 |
| LaserJock | sharms: I'd ask debian if they plan to update soon | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | sharms: nah, it's not a problem. of course, fi you get the version into debian as well,that's even better :P | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | could be they are about ready too or have a good reason not to | 04:46 |
| FunnyLookinHat | May I paste 4 lines of output? GPG related error with debuild -S | 04:46 |
| FunnyLookinHat | or should I pastbin them | 04:46 |
| Hobbsee | FunnyLookinHat: yeah, it's quiet enough | 04:47 |
| === Hobbsee ducks | ||
| FunnyLookinHat | gpg: skipped "David Overcash <funnylookinhat@gmail.com>": secret key not available | 04:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | gpg: [stdin] : clearsign failed: secret key not available | 04:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting.... | 04:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | debuild: fatal error at line 791: | 04:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | running debsign failed | 04:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | That's the error I am getting : ( | 04:47 |
| sharms | did you create a key with a pass phrase etc? | 04:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | yea, but my key had a comment (which this does not), is that the difference? | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | FunnyLookinHat: why are you signing with debuild at all? odd. use -kyourkeyidhere to get rid of that message | 04:48 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I'm just following LaserJock's tutorial! | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | debuild -S -k<keyid> | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | FunnyLookinHat: ah right, i thought they were using dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -kyourkeyidhere | 04:49 |
| jsgotangco | ask the master of packaging monsieur LaserJock | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | ugggg | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | I'm going to have to really learn how to package if this continues ;-) | 04:50 |
| sharms | hehe | 04:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ahh got it | 04:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | w00t | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: hah. surely you can package already | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: the reason I didn't use -k was because I've never had a problem | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: ahh...you specified your keyid in ~/.bashrc or something? | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | nope | 04:51 |
| FunnyLookinHat | What LaserJock means to say is that he is not uber-noober like me. | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | how weird | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | I have DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL set in .bashrc | 04:51 |
| LaserJock | that's it | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | odd. | 04:52 |
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| LaserJock | I only use -k when I need to sponsor an upload | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | be back tomorrow. | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | interesting | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | well, yeah | 04:52 |
| FunnyLookinHat | hmm ok, I'm not following this CDBS page very much... do i have to do anything with it or can I be done at sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | FunnyLookinHat: you likely dont. you're creating the package from scrathc? | 04:56 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Hobbsee, yea... but I just ran that command and I don't see any .deb files : ) | 04:56 |
| FunnyLookinHat | !!!! | 04:56 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about !!! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 04:56 |
| FunnyLookinHat | lol ubotu you rox0r | 04:56 |
| FunnyLookinHat | : P | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | FunnyLookinHat: you ran pbuilder? | 04:57 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yup. | 04:57 |
| FunnyLookinHat | sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | then it should be in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ | 04:57 |
| FunnyLookinHat | oh looky there! | 04:57 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I made a debian package!! | 04:57 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | flippin hello world rox0rs my world. | 04:58 |
| FunnyLookinHat | And so if I were to submit this to REVU i would upload the .dsc .changes .deb and .tar.gz right? | 04:58 |
| sharms | hehe I didn't change my DEBFULLNAME or DEBEMAIL, and my system user name was "tv's patrick duffy" | 04:58 |
| LaserJock | FunnyLookinHat: no | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | FunnyLookinHat: we only want the source package | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | so you would dput revu *_source.changes | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | note the "source" part | 04:59 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I don't upload the package itself? | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | the .deb? no | 05:01 |
| sharms | FunnyLookinHat: I believe they have scripts that build them | 05:01 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Oh ok. | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | we have pbuilder :-) | 05:01 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ok... so i guess I should try to build this mythtv thing now that I have the basics down, heh | 05:02 |
| sharms | when I pbuild I keep getting: dpkg-parsechangelog: warning: no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined; using uid of process (1234) | 05:02 |
| sharms | should I worry about that? | 05:02 |
| LaserJock | nope | 05:02 |
| FunnyLookinHat | So, I have checked out all this sourcecode via svn... | 05:08 |
| FunnyLookinHat | should my dh_make line still be "dh_make -e funnylookinhat@gmail.com -f ../mythtv-0.19.tar.gz" even though no .tar.gz exists? | 05:09 |
| bluefoxicy | looks like lwn won't be running my article this week... Forrest hasn't gotten back to me yet, and I know it needs massive editing. I was hoping he'd give me a list of issues and I could just grind a fresh one out in an hour | 05:11 |
| bluefoxicy | (I'm very good at post-editing my own articles) | 05:11 |
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| LaserJock | FunnyLookinHat: well, it's not going to work very well if you give it a non-existent file :-) | 05:13 |
| FunnyLookinHat | LaserJock, Right... but should I just remove the whole -f .tar.gz part of the line then? | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | why don't you have a .tar.gz? | 05:14 |
| FunnyLookinHat | because I got the source from svn | 05:15 |
| FunnyLookinHat | heh | 05:15 |
| FunnyLookinHat | and even tho I am running from the directory with the source it's telling me that I should go to the directory with the source | 05:15 |
| LaserJock | you should make a .orig.tar.gz anyway | 05:16 |
| LaserJock | even if it's from svn | 05:16 |
| FunnyLookinHat | hmm... | 05:16 |
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| LaserJock | it's called tar, dude ;-) | 05:17 |
| FunnyLookinHat | right, but I forgot the parameters | 05:18 |
| FunnyLookinHat | -pczf : ) | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | -czf probably | 05:19 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | ooh this was a bad idea for a first package, hahaha | 05:21 |
| LaserJock | !gpg > quidam- | 05:22 |
| FunnyLookinHat | running sudo pbuilder build ...... crossing fingers.... | 05:29 |
| FunnyLookinHat | dangit | 05:30 |
| FunnyLookinHat | FTBFS | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | lol | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | the plight of a packager | 05:30 |
| FunnyLookinHat | what the crap kind of error is this: "Unknown option "--host=i486-linux-gnu"." | 05:30 |
| FunnyLookinHat | LOL | 05:30 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I bet if I just removed that from the line it would work, lol | 05:31 |
| FunnyLookinHat | WOW, you know I should give up when "grep -R host=i486-linux-gnu *" returns nothing, LOL | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | it's probably being substituted | 05:35 |
| FunnyLookinHat | right, this line | 05:35 |
| FunnyLookinHat | grep -R i486 * configure:x86_cpus="i386,i486,i586,i686,pentium,pentiumpro,${x86_mmx_cpus}" | 05:35 |
| FunnyLookinHat | configure: elif test x"$cpu_raw" = x"i486"; then | 05:35 |
| FunnyLookinHat | configure: ARCHFLAGS="-march=i486" | 05:35 |
| FunnyLookinHat | so.... the plan would be to..... just set it to i386 on my lonesome | 05:36 |
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| LaserJock | did anybody have to do something to get their gpg key to work? | 05:51 |
| LaserJock | like for --clearsign and --decrypt? | 05:51 |
| Fujitsu | Always worked fine for me... Did you import it? | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | import your own key? | 05:54 |
| Fujitsu | Well, get the key to work in what? | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | command line | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | just to sign things | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | etc/ | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | etc. | 05:55 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I just have to add -k<key> to my lines | 05:56 |
| Fujitsu | I don't have to do anything special. | 05:56 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | LaserJock, I just tried setting up a dev environment on my main desktop box and I didn't need the -k<key> option.... go figure | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | weird | 06:19 |
| FunnyLookinHat | and I'm getting that same FTBFS error on this different box... which sucks : ) | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | ok, time for me to go away | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | 12 straight hrs today :/ | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | I need to do some real work one of these days | 06:26 |
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| Toadstool | 'morning | 07:10 |
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| zakame | hi all | 07:59 |
| Toadstool | hey zakame | 08:00 |
| zakame | heya Toadstool | 08:01 |
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| Fujitsu | How odd. | 08:16 |
| Fujitsu | gnome-sudoku's versioning is stuffed. | 08:16 |
| Fujitsu | 0.4.0-2ubuntu3 is in fact based on 0.4.0-1 | 08:16 |
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| Toadstool | hmm... indeed :) | 08:19 |
| Fujitsu | Where can I obtain 0.4.0-1? None of the Debian archives seem to have it? | 08:19 |
| crimsun | snapshot.debian.net/gnome-sudoku | 08:19 |
| Fujitsu | AH. | 08:19 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks. | 08:19 |
| Fujitsu | :O | 08:20 |
| Fujitsu | dholbach did it... | 08:20 |
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| Fujitsu | Ah. | 08:21 |
| Fujitsu | That looks like a better diff now. No lowering of compat versions... | 08:21 |
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| dholbach | good morning - HAPPY HUGDAY to everybody! | 08:51 |
| Fujitsu | Hey dholbach! | 08:51 |
| dholbach | hey Fujitsu | 08:51 |
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| === dholbach throws something heavy | ||
| Fujitsu | You made a mistake in gnome-sudoku when you made 0.4.0-2ubuntu1. | 08:52 |
| dholbach | yeah? | 08:52 |
| Fujitsu | It should have been 0.4.0-1ubuntu1 :P | 08:52 |
| dholbach | oh yeah | 08:52 |
| dholbach | 10 people told me already | 08:52 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 08:52 |
| dholbach | :-) | 08:53 |
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| Toadstool | :) | 08:53 |
| Fujitsu | Well, 0.5.0-1ubuntu1 is almost done... | 08:53 |
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| Toadstool | Fujitsu: ubuntu1? I requested a sync... the only thing that may be merged is the .desktop stuff but when I read seb128's mail on -devel about that kind of merges, I decided to send a patch upstream (which is now included in their svn by the way) | 08:57 |
| Fujitsu | Hm. | 08:57 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 08:57 |
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| Fujitsu | OK. When did you request the sync? | 08:57 |
| Toadstool | yesterday :) | 08:58 |
| Fujitsu | Hmm. | 08:58 |
| Fujitsu | I checked this morning and there were no bugs on it. | 08:58 |
| Fujitsu | How many hours ago is your yesterday? | 08:58 |
| Toadstool | bug 53361 | 08:59 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 53361 in gnome-sudoku "Please sync gnome-sudoku (universe) from Debian unstable" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53361 | 08:59 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 09:00 |
| Fujitsu | 12 hours ago. | 09:00 |
| Toadstool | yep | 09:01 |
| Fujitsu | Wouldn't it be nice if MoM were integrated with Launchpad, thus eliminating this sort of stuff? | 09:02 |
| Fujitsu | It doesn't update very often... | 09:02 |
| Fujitsu | And until they're actually synced it's a little misleading >_< | 09:02 |
| Toadstool | :) | 09:03 |
| Fujitsu | Can somebody please deal with two merges and a sync I've got? | 09:04 |
| Toadstool | I can take a look at the merges | 09:04 |
| Fujitsu | http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/merges/ | 09:05 |
| Fujitsu | Just the two `Outstanding' ones, obviously. | 09:05 |
| siretart | uuh, I hope FunnyLookinHat won't be scared if he checks his inbox and finds a lot of homework :) | 09:13 |
| === siretart waves to FunnyLookinHat | ||
| siretart | hey lucas. I see you passed FD as well (some time ago)? congrats! | 09:14 |
| lucas | :-) | 09:14 |
| lucas | thank you | 09:14 |
| Toadstool | Fujitsu: pdebuilding drivel | 09:15 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks, Toadstool. | 09:16 |
| Fujitsu | FD? | 09:16 |
| Toadstool | Front Desk? | 09:16 |
| lucas | yes | 09:16 |
| Fujitsu | What do you mean? | 09:16 |
| Toadstool | Fujitsu: Debian Front Desk, lucas is about to become a Debian Dev ;) | 09:17 |
| Fujitsu | Aha. | 09:17 |
| lucas | Fujitsu: that's a step of the debian new maintainer process | 09:17 |
| Fujitsu | Nice! | 09:17 |
| Fujitsu | Congratulations, lucas! | 09:17 |
| lucas | :) | 09:17 |
| lucas | well, "about" might not be true | 09:17 |
| lucas | I still have to wait for DAM approval | 09:17 |
| Toadstool | :) | 09:18 |
| === Fujitsu pokes his finger, and wonders when it's going to turn on again... | ||
| Fujitsu | It's sort of... gone white and numb. | 09:19 |
| Toadstool | Fujitsu: ok, drivel uploaded | 09:24 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks, | 09:24 |
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| Fujitsu | Evening, Gloubiboulga. | 09:28 |
| Gloubiboulga | morning Fujitsu ;) | 09:29 |
| Fujitsu | Aha. That's better. | 09:32 |
| Fujitsu | Finally, a use for an infinite while-loop. Generating heat from the laptop to warm up fingers :P | 09:32 |
| Toadstool | heh | 09:33 |
| Gloubiboulga | you can also use gentoo ;) | 09:33 |
| Fujitsu | I was going to compile a kernel or something, but they're large, and my download limit is small. | 09:33 |
| crimsun | using pbuilder unceasingly works, too. | 09:33 |
| crimsun | incessantly if you prefer. | 09:34 |
| Toadstool | Fujitsu: pdebuilding/testing exim | 09:34 |
| Fujitsu | Good, good. | 09:34 |
| Fujitsu | I tested it, but best to be safe :) | 09:34 |
| Toadstool | yep :) | 09:35 |
| Gloubiboulga | Toadstool, already working, that's great :) | 09:35 |
| Toadstool | heh :) | 09:35 |
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| Toadstool | Fujitsu: exim uploaded | 09:40 |
| Toadstool | thanks for the merges :) | 09:40 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks. | 09:41 |
| Toadstool | ok, back to bugs :) | 09:41 |
| Fujitsu | Could somebody also approve a sync request? | 09:42 |
| Toadstool | you already filed the sync request? | 09:42 |
| Fujitsu | Toadstool, yep. | 09:44 |
| Toadstool | which bug, then? :) | 09:44 |
| Fujitsu | http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/syncs/ | 09:44 |
| Fujitsu | Ah.. | 09:44 |
| Fujitsu | 53406. | 09:44 |
| Toadstool | let me see | 09:45 |
| Fujitsu | Had a look yet? | 10:07 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 10:07 |
| Fujitsu | I see. | 10:07 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks :) | 10:07 |
| Toadstool | oops, yeah, i confirmed the sync :) | 10:09 |
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| Fujitsu | One thing that's been annoying me for ages... Why does pbuilder take sooooo long to consider build-deps? | 10:19 |
| dholbach | Fujitsu: it can't be ages | 10:24 |
| dholbach | Fujitsu: it started happening with mvo's last apt upload, which is barely 2 weeks ago | 10:24 |
| Fujitsu | > 1 minute for libvte-dev, I think. | 10:24 |
| Fujitsu | Oh. | 10:25 |
| Fujitsu | As in ages... | 10:25 |
| Fujitsu | Well, I only really started using pbuilders regularly 48 hours ago. | 10:25 |
| Fujitsu | Seems like ages, though. | 10:25 |
| dholbach | pffft :) | 10:25 |
| Fujitsu | Hmm. | 10:25 |
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| === Fujitsu swears. | ||
| Fujitsu | A bug was just filed on my vpnc build... It's apparently broken :( | 11:00 |
| === Fujitsu looks. | ||
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| bjp | I've uploaded a flamerobin ubuntu package last week to be reviewed. What time does it aproximatically take for a package to be reviewed? The package is available at: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2688 | 11:11 |
| sladen | bjp: lots of nagging! | 11:12 |
| sladen | bjp: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/flamerobin-0607120655/linda | 11:13 |
| Fujitsu | Does anybody here use vpnc, by any chance? | 11:13 |
| sladen | bjp: also, http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/flamerobin-0607120655/lintian | 11:13 |
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| sladen | bjp: those points need looking at and fixing | 11:14 |
| Arbiter | hi all | 11:15 |
| bjp | sladen: thanks. It probably is because I've created a binary package first, and then build the source package for revu. | 11:16 |
| bjp | I'll try building the revu package from start and upload that one | 11:17 |
| sladen | bjp: if you use debuild -S | 11:17 |
| sladen | bjp: then that will clean the package first. | 11:17 |
| sladen | bjp: that accounts for one of the warnings (autoconf files) | 11:17 |
| sladen | bjp: there are a few others; the Standards-Version mentioned in debian/control | 11:18 |
| bjp | well IIRC I did use that, but I'll look into it | 11:18 |
| sladen | bjp: have .svn directories | 11:18 |
| bjp | can I review the error files you've pointed out before I've actually uploaded the package? | 11:18 |
| sladen | bjp: there appears to already be a flamerobin-0.7.2 in revu, is that yours? | 11:19 |
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| bjp | sladen: depends on it, where did you found it? | 11:21 |
| bjp | sladen: I just see one flamerobin package on the main revu page | 11:21 |
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| bjp | sladen: where did you find the .svn directories, as I've used the official source package which doesn't contain .svn folders. The only thing is that revision.svn is included | 11:22 |
| cbx33 | bjp: have you used 3.7.2 for the standard? | 11:22 |
| sladen | bjp: does 'ls -a' show you them? | 11:22 |
| bjp | cbx33: I'm sorry I don't get it exactly.. what do you mean? | 11:23 |
| sladen | bjp: in debian/control as said above | 11:23 |
| bjp | sladen: I did that, of course :), but is doesn't show them in my source folder | 11:23 |
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| bjp | sladen: ah I see them and will fix it. Thanks :) | 11:24 |
| sladen | bjp: okay, it's probably looking with find -name \*.svn see what it does and that might match that file you found | 11:24 |
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| bjp | sladen: I think the revision.svn file is allowed, isn't it? | 11:25 |
| cbx33 | bjp: the compat file should now be 5 not 4 shouldn't it sladen ? | 11:25 |
| sladen | bjp: if this is an upstream tarball, then you shouldn't be using a native package | 11:25 |
| sladen | bjp: native means that it was written specifically for Debian, and that's very rare | 11:25 |
| sladen | bjp: ah there any other files that it matches? | 11:26 |
| bjp | sladen: yeah I've found the .svn dir in debian and removed it. In the next package it will be gone, thanks :) | 11:26 |
| sladen | bjp: how did it get there, presumably you created the contents of debian/ | 11:27 |
| bjp | sladen: well the package is used for a debian package and I've derived it to build an Ubuntu package for linking some other dependencies than the Debian has (other library versions) | 11:27 |
| Enverex | The guide for making with debhelper and uploading doesn't work btw, there are steps missing that mean it doesn't work unless you do them | 11:28 |
| sladen | bjp: in that case, if it's already in Debian, just request a sync for it | 11:28 |
| cbx33 | Enverex: which guide? | 11:29 |
| Enverex | https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-debhelper.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ubuntu-upload.html | 11:29 |
| bjp | sladen: well that's the problem. It takes a very long time for a package to be included in Debian and we're still wondering whether it is every going to be included | 11:29 |
| Enverex | Not to mention dbuild doesn't work properly either, it always craps out with an error on trying to sign the files | 11:30 |
| cbx33 | Enverex: ever seen https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html | 11:30 |
| bjp | sladen: that's why I've made the Ubuntu package; to offer more convenience to the Ubuntu users of Flamerobin | 11:30 |
| cbx33 | oh sorry | 11:30 |
| cbx33 | those are chapters in it yes? | 11:30 |
| cbx33 | brb | 11:30 |
| Enverex | cbx33, Erm, the pages I just showed you ARE pages of that | 11:30 |
| Enverex | yeah, heh | 11:31 |
| sladen | bjp: right, so where did you find this Debian package, if not in Debian? | 11:31 |
| Enverex | debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting.... debuild: fatal error at line 791: running debsign failed | 11:31 |
| sladen | bjp: (the package that you started with and which are modifying | 11:31 |
| cbx33 | Enverex: have you got your gpg key setup? | 11:32 |
| cbx33 | do you have gpg installed? | 11:32 |
| Enverex | Yup | 11:32 |
| cbx33 | hmmm | 11:32 |
| cbx33 | when you modifed the changelog did you use the right email address? | 11:32 |
| bjp | somebody else on the community of Flamerobin has made this package for Debian already and I assumed it was fine. Probably it isn't so I'll create my very own Ubuntu one. I think you're suggesting to do it first of all right? :) | 11:33 |
| Enverex | Yes, I can sign things with debsign <file> but not by running debuild | 11:33 |
| cbx33 | hmmm | 11:39 |
| Enverex | Also, the E-UAE thing I uploaded the other day still hasn't shown in REVU, any ideas why? | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | key not synced? | 11:39 |
| Arbiter | w00t, there are a lot of old packages ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming/ that were not updated into REVU | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | did you join the revu group? | 11:39 |
| Enverex | cbx33, Yes and Yes | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | hey Arbiter hows the pacakge? | 11:39 |
| bjp | sladen: btw, isn't there any possibility to share the debian/ folder between Debian and Ubuntu packages? | 11:39 |
| Enverex | Arbiter, : Ha, there it id | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | Enverex: have you ever uploaded to revu before? | 11:39 |
| Enverex | *is | 11:39 |
| Arbiter | cbx33, i've fixed two more issues | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | nice | 11:39 |
| Enverex | cbx33, It's on that site Arbiter just daid | 11:39 |
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| phanatic | hello motu world | 11:39 |
| Arbiter | cbx33, * orig-tarball changed. Please use exactly what you downloaded as .orig.tar.gz. (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/CommonPackagingMistakes/ChangingTheOrigTarball) | 11:39 |
| Arbiter | * debian/copyright: you miss the license in src/core/compat-round.{cc,h} | 11:39 |
| Arbiter | :D | 11:39 |
| Arbiter | fixed & fixed | 11:39 |
| sladen | bjp: yes, but we do it with a diff! | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | s it in rejected? | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | Enverex: ? | 11:39 |
| phanatic | any MOTUs around here? | 11:39 |
| Enverex | Erm, two of the files are in that folder, one is in rejected | 11:39 |
| sladen | bjp: that original package isn't going into Debian, until all the warning are sorted out with it anyway | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | phanatic: what;'s up | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | I'm not a MOTU | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | but just ask your question :p | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | then you need to find out why it was rejected | 11:39 |
| Arbiter | owww | 11:39 |
| phanatic | cbx33: sorry, i need a MOTU :) it's about uploading stuff... | 11:39 |
| sladen | bjp: personally, I suggest being a new, non-native package (as normally done) and doing a proper packaging job from scratch | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | phanatic: you need stuff uploaded? | 11:39 |
| Arbiter | after the upload advocates are reset | 11:39 |
| Arbiter | pffff.... | 11:39 |
| Enverex | cbx33, Oh, so does that mean those other two files are fine but there's something wrong with just that file? | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | Enverex: what is the package name? | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | I would think so? | 11:39 |
| phanatic | cbx33: in fact a quick review and an upload :) | 11:39 |
| bjp | sladen: he didn't tell me that the debian package contained errors (warnings) as well. I'll start from scratch and come up with a proper ubuntu package then | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | phanatic: I can do a quick review | 11:39 |
| phanatic | cbx33: thanks, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2585 | 11:39 |
| sladen | bjp: so, grab the upstream tarball. un tar it, mkdir -p debian and make control/changelog (you can look at the other package for ideas, but don't copy the bugs :) | 11:39 |
| Enverex | cbx33, e-uae | 11:39 |
| phanatic | raphink: ping | 11:39 |
| raphink | pong | 11:39 |
| Enverex | cbx33, The changelog, is that a changelog for the program or for the debian package? | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | phanatic: looks like it's already been approved and uploaded | 11:39 |
| sladen | bjp: rocking! if the upstream is 0.7.2, then we'll assume the Debian version is going to be 0, so you'll have a version of 0.7.2-0ubuntu1 | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | of have you just updated it? | 11:39 |
| phanatic | cbx33: not the latest version | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | ah ok | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | lemme see | 11:39 |
| phanatic | cbx33: it's for edgy containing some bugfixes | 11:39 |
| Enverex | Can anyone answer that question? | 11:39 |
| Arbiter | oook, advocates: fixed package wants you ;) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2742 | 11:39 |
| bjp | sladen: shouldn't I use the build tools to create the debian directory? | 11:39 |
| raphink | phanatic: what's up? | 11:39 |
| cbx33 | phanatic: looks good to me | 11:39 |
| phanatic | raphink: do you have time for a quick review + upload? | 11:40 |
| sladen | bjp: no. make your changes; and at the end, debuild -S will produce a .diff (we have a .dsc, the orig.tar.gz and the .diff and changes) | 11:40 |
| raphink | no I don't have time to review | 11:40 |
| phanatic | raphink: actually it was reviewed a several times, just need an upload | 11:40 |
| Enverex | The changelog file in debian/, is that a changelog for the program or for the debian package? | 11:40 |
| phanatic | raphink: sysinfo package with bugfixes | 11:40 |
| raphink | phanatic: I'd have to review it myself though | 11:40 |
| raphink | I'd like to I mean | 11:40 |
| raphink | so I'll do it later on | 11:41 |
| phanatic | raphink: okay, thanks | 11:41 |
| bjp | sladen: okay. What standards version should I use than? And can I change the compat file to 5? | 11:41 |
| raphink | is there no other MOTU around who could review it? | 11:41 |
| sladen | siretart: can you put a newer version of linda/lintian on revu | 11:41 |
| phanatic | raphink: nobody put his/her hands up :) | 11:41 |
| sladen | bjp: you might actually be correct, leave it at that for the moment | 11:41 |
| raphink | sladen: we have to plan an upgrade of tiber | 11:41 |
| cbx33 | raphink: nice | 11:41 |
| raphink | to dapper | 11:41 |
| Enverex | Anyone? | 11:41 |
| cbx33 | get rid of all those standards errors :p | 11:41 |
| raphink | it's not planned yet | 11:42 |
| raphink | hehe | 11:42 |
| raphink | for the least we already have an edgy pbuilder :) | 11:42 |
| Arbiter | :D | 11:42 |
| bjp | sladen: alright. I'll change the version of the package to 0.7.2-0ubuntu1 | 11:42 |
| bjp | sladen: and remove the .svn folder | 11:42 |
| cbx33 | Enverex: that's for your package of it | 11:43 |
| cbx33 | I believe | 11:43 |
| Enverex | Ah, that's why it's rejected then | 11:43 |
| Enverex | I'll go fix | 11:43 |
| cbx33 | y? | 11:43 |
| bjp | sladen: and the autobuild stuff, etc. Hopefully I get to upload a new version in the afternoon. Can I contact you again when I've uploaded the newer one? :) | 11:43 |
| Arbiter | o.O my karma on launchpad bumped from 449 to 1116 | 11:43 |
| azeem | instant karma gonna get you | 11:44 |
| cbx33 | heheh karma is such a funny thing | 11:45 |
| cbx33 | it means practically nothing :p | 11:45 |
| Arbiter | hee hee hee | 11:45 |
| cbx33 | mine is 41076 | 11:45 |
| Arbiter | i see | 11:45 |
| cbx33 | but it's cos I wrote some specs | 11:45 |
| Enverex | cbx33, I thought it was a changelog for the program | 11:45 |
| Arbiter | O.O | 11:45 |
| cbx33 | Enverex: I'm not 100% sure | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | to be perfectly honest | 11:46 |
| Enverex | Do you need to run pbuilder for it to make the files which you upload or are those made by debuild? | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | Enverex: you should run debuils -S | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | to build the source pacakge | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | that's what goes up to REVU | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | but you should run pbuilder to make sure it builds ok | 11:47 |
| cbx33 | before you upload | 11:47 |
| Enverex | yeah, I know, it's just why does dbuilder always crap out and if I run debsign it says debsign: Can't find or can't read changes file ../ccd2iso_0.2-0ubuntu1_i386.changes!2 which is only built when you pbuilder it | 11:48 |
| Enverex | Also, it wont let me reupload (even with -f) | 11:57 |
| Enverex | Package includes an .orig.tar.gz file although the debian revision suggests | 11:57 |
| Enverex | that it might not be required. Multiple uploads of the .orig.tar.gz may be | 11:57 |
| Enverex | rejected by the upload queue management software. | 11:57 |
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| Enverex | Stupid network | 12:08 |
| Enverex | Did anyone get anything I said | 12:08 |
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| Enverex | Come on guys, I'm not spending 10 hours on a package again | 12:10 |
| azeem | please be patient | 12:11 |
| azeem | we're all volunteers | 12:11 |
| azeem | maybe you should rephrase your question | 12:11 |
| Enverex | Uploading via ftp e-uae_0.8.29-WIP2-0ubuntu1.dsc: Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of e-uae_0.8.29-WIP2-0ubuntu1.dsc | 12:12 |
| Enverex | How do I get it to overwrite the old one? | 12:12 |
| azeem | you're uploading to REVU? | 12:12 |
| Enverex | Yeah | 12:12 |
| azeem | ok, sorry, I never did that | 12:13 |
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| azeem | maybe those files get cleaned up by a cronjob every once in a while | 12:13 |
| azeem | so maybe try again in a couple of hours | 12:13 |
| azeem | otherwise, contact the REVU admins, I'd say | 12:13 |
| azeem | but this is just my uneducated gues | 12:13 |
| azeem | s/gues/guess/ | 12:13 |
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| Enverex | They've been there for a while | 12:14 |
| Enverex | Surely there is some way to overwrite them... | 12:14 |
| azeem | do they belong to a proper prior upload? Or a halfway-through upload? | 12:15 |
| Enverex | Part of the prior upload has been rejected so I'm trying to upload the new version | 12:15 |
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| Enverex | Does anyone know how I remove files from REVU> | 12:19 |
| Enverex | *? | 12:19 |
| phanatic | Enverex: upload with dput -f | 12:22 |
| phanatic | that'll overwrite the old ones... | 12:22 |
| Enverex | But it doesn't | 12:22 |
| Enverex | It still says the site rejected it | 12:23 |
| phanatic | is your key correct and accepted by revu? | 12:23 |
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| Enverex | Yes. It worked the first time to upload both programs but it wont let me overwrite | 12:23 |
| phanatic | :/ | 12:23 |
| phanatic | ask a revu admin maybe | 12:23 |
| derjohn | i have via vt8251-based mobo. that chipset is supported since 2.6.17 only. is there a ubuntu-server install cd out (nightly or such) that is 2.6.17 based? | 12:24 |
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| jdmpike | hey guys, how hard would it be to create a package called network-manager-xfce4? | 12:25 |
| Enverex | It'll take you days, and you'll go insane in the process | 12:25 |
| jdmpike | probably | 12:25 |
| jdmpike | network-manager-gtk might be more appropriate | 12:25 |
| jdmpike | what that a massive undertaking? | 12:26 |
| jdmpike | creating the kde/gnome versions of the frontends? | 12:26 |
| Enverex | phanatic, PMed you the whole output to see if it makes more sense | 12:26 |
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| phanatic | Enverex: looks like a revu problem. ping one of the revu admins, they can help... | 12:30 |
| Enverex | ... which are they? heh | 12:30 |
| phanatic | Enverex: https://launchpad.net/people/revu-hackers | 12:32 |
| Enverex | ping ajmitch siretart raphink | 12:34 |
| siretart | Enverex: yes? | 12:37 |
| Enverex | siretart, I seem to be unable to upload a new version of something to REVU, it let me upload the initial one but I had to change something and it wont let me overwrite the old one | 12:38 |
| siretart | Enverex: which package? | 12:39 |
| derjohn | self-answer (for the logs, if any): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 12:39 |
| Enverex | siretart, e-uae and ccd | 12:40 |
| Enverex | erm, ccd2iso | 12:40 |
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| siretart | Enverex: the later one was uploaded as binary, which is being ignored by the upload processor and blocks further uploads | 12:41 |
| siretart | just cleaned the queue, you may reupload now | 12:41 |
| Enverex | Thanks, I didn't even mean to upload that in the first place, heh | 12:42 |
| siretart | but be sure that you only upload *_source.changes, and no *_i386.changes files | 12:42 |
| Enverex | Yeah, the guides were confusing and that was my first upload | 12:43 |
| Enverex | debuilder doesn't work properly and dies when trying to sign | 12:43 |
| Enverex | lol, Ubuntu live support rejected | 12:46 |
| Enverex | Oh the irony | 12:46 |
| mpathy | Hi there.. What do you think about my feature request here? https://launchpad.net/bounties/compilation-options-checker | 12:50 |
| Enverex | That's odd, my uploads haven't appeared in that upload folder yet | 12:57 |
| Enverex | Oh, it's on the REAL page now, heh | 12:58 |
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| Enverex | Just hope they aren't too borked and get rejected, heh. They both build and install fine through the .deb file as I'm using them now, yay. Heh. | 01:29 |
| Arbiter | mpathy, i think that your feature request fits better under specs, unless you want to pay someone for implementing the feature | 01:42 |
| FunnyLookinHat | siretart, : ) I just woke up and saw your email. Unfortunately I have to go to work right now but I'll probably start to read it at work : ) | 01:46 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Thanks for helping me : ) | 01:46 |
| siretart | FunnyLookinHat: I'm currently at work as well | 01:46 |
| siretart | FunnyLookinHat: I'm happy that I can help you :) | 01:46 |
| FunnyLookinHat | siretart, See you later! | 01:46 |
| mpathy | Arbiter: Can I "move" it? | 02:01 |
| Arbiter | mpathy, don't know | 02:01 |
| Arbiter | i never wrote spec or bounties | 02:02 |
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| Javier | f | 02:08 |
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| tseng | < stub> Launchpad will be going down in 15 minutes for some brief unscheduled maintenance. Downtime will be approx five minutes. | 02:16 |
| Enverex | omg borked | 02:17 |
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| Arbiter | slomo, ping | 02:23 |
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| Viper550 | Hello | 02:44 |
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| Arbiter | slomo, libgimp-cil builds correctly also in pbuilder :) | 02:57 |
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| Arbiter | slomo, i've uploaded an updated version... you can review it if you want :D | 03:08 |
| Enverex | I'm amazed no-one complained about e-uae not being in Ubuntu, people are likely going to jump all over it when it comes out :P | 03:09 |
| Arbiter | Enverex, :D | 03:10 |
| Enverex | I've installed both of my packages locally and they seem fine, so any rejections are going to be something astetic or silly | 03:11 |
| Arbiter | Enverex, tried to build the package in pbuilder? | 03:11 |
| Enverex | Yeah, that's how I got the .deb file to install | 03:11 |
| Arbiter | good | 03:12 |
| Enverex | ( I mean I installed via the deb file, not just a manual compilation else that wouldn't prove it worked, heh) | 03:12 |
| Arbiter | sure | 03:12 |
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| Enverex | Making packages for ./configure && make && make install programs seems really easy now, heh, but there are programs like oolite that are a bit more complicated | 03:14 |
| Arbiter | hehehe | 03:14 |
| Arbiter | making an ebuild for gentoo is often more complex :P | 03:15 |
| Arbiter | and there's no pbuilder... :PPP | 03:15 |
| Enverex | True but you just "emerge blah" | 03:17 |
| Enverex | As you don't need to make packages | 03:18 |
| Enverex | It's more complicated to make but easier to see if it worked properly | 03:18 |
| Arbiter | :) | 03:18 |
| Arbiter | Enverex, i've used gentoo for about a year | 03:18 |
| Arbiter | :) | 03:18 |
| Arbiter | then i got bored of compiling everytime | 03:19 |
| Arbiter | so i moved to debian firstly, then ubuntu :D | 03:19 |
| Enverex | Yeah, heh. It's nice. Pick some programs, install. 20 seconds later (including download time) it's all usable. Rather than 3 hours. | 03:20 |
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| Enverex | It's also nice to be able to browse through the programs with icons and such too. | 03:21 |
| Arbiter | Enverex, it's better to let the ubuntu's build servers compile the programs for us :D | 03:21 |
| NthDegree | lol | 03:22 |
| Enverex | but but but.. my -funroll-loops -crazyloops -omgwtf-loops -march=uberpc flags!! | 03:22 |
| NthDegree | until you have submitted enough packages I take it you have to submit .src.debs | 03:22 |
| Arbiter | my CFLAGS under gentoo: -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -mmmx -msse -fweb and such things :P | 03:24 |
| Mithrandir | you know -O3 is generally slower than -O2 or -Os, right? | 03:24 |
| Enverex | mmx and sse are already part of -march=athlon-xp | 03:25 |
| Arbiter | Mithrandir, yep it generates bigger executables | 03:25 |
| Arbiter | Mithrandir, in fact after some time i did an emerge -e world with CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe" :D | 03:25 |
| NthDegree | Arbiter, dare you to try that with SSP :p | 03:27 |
| zul | hmmm...when did we become #gentoo-motu | 03:29 |
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| Arbiter | zul, hee hee hee | 03:30 |
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| robert__ | hello all | 03:30 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 03:49 |
| zul | hey | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 03:49 |
| zul | umm...shouldnt you be uploading stuff to universe? | 03:49 |
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| imbrandon | heh | 03:49 |
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| Gloubiboulga | join #ubuntu-devel | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | heh, hi Gloubiboulga | 04:28 |
| Gloubiboulga | hm, it doesn't work | 04:28 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi Hobbsee :) | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:28 |
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| chrisjr | hi | 04:36 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I have a motu-mentor! | 04:37 |
| bjp | hi guys, is there any way to view the Linda file before dputting a source package? | 04:39 |
| azeem | bjp: which linda file? | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: linda foo.dsc | 04:39 |
| bjp | hobbsee: thanks. Same holds for lintian I guess? | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: yep | 04:41 |
| bjp | hobbsee: great! I'll check it out :) | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:42 |
| bjp | hobbsee: no output is prefered I hope? :) | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: yes | 04:42 |
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| bjp | hobbsee: okay than linda is finally right :) | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:43 |
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| azeem | bjp: run it on a binary .changes files to also get the .debs checked | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: of course it is. i can whinge at the maintainer and writer of it, too :P | 04:43 |
| bjp | hobbsee: just lintian warns "source: package-uses-deprecated-debhelper-compat-version 1" | 04:44 |
| bjp | hobbsee: lol :) | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: *ouch* why 1? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | that's *way* out of date | 04:44 |
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| bjp | hobbsee: the lintian warning is because the compat file is missing I guess.. should I add 4 or 5 to the file? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: is this package already in debian? | 04:45 |
| bjp | hobbsee: nope it isn't. We're trying to, but it gets a lot of delay. | 04:45 |
| bjp | hobbsee: so we'd like to have it included in ubuntu for the convenience of our ubuntu users :) | 04:46 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: so who set the compat 1? | 04:46 |
| bjp | azeem: thanks, still no errors in linda | 04:47 |
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| bjp | hobbsee: I didn't had the 'compat' file in the 'debian' directory, so I guess it defaults to one (1) | 04:47 |
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| Hobbsee | bjp: ah. change it to 5 then | 04:48 |
| Arbiter | hi * | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | hi Arbiter | 04:49 |
| Arbiter | hey Hobbsee | 04:49 |
| Arbiter | how are you? :D | 04:49 |
| bjp | hobbsee: I did that, lintian isn't warnings anymore either | 04:49 |
| bjp | hobbsee: is this the right time to dput the package to revu, or can/should I check some additional things too? | 04:50 |
| Arbiter | Gloubiboulga, ping | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: cool :) | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: dput it to revu | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | Arbiter: good, doing some uploads :) | 04:50 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee, hehehehe | 04:50 |
| Arbiter | i'm waiting for my 2nd advocate | 04:50 |
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| Hobbsee | Arbiter: ah fun. what for? | 04:52 |
| bjp | hobbsee: thanks for you're help! :) It's uploaded now and I will comment the upload as it appears on revu | 04:52 |
| Arbiter | i've fixed some problem reported by sistpoty | 04:52 |
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| Hobbsee | bjp: cool, paste the link here? | 04:52 |
| Arbiter | *problems* | 04:52 |
| Arbiter | he also advocated the package this morning | 04:53 |
| Arbiter | !spell advocated | 04:53 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about spell advocated - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 04:53 |
| Arbiter | aw | 04:53 |
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| Arbiter | :D | 04:53 |
| bjp | hobbsee: it's the second upload of the flamerobin package, available at: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2688 | 04:54 |
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| bjp | hobbsee: I see trouble with compat now. After changing it to 5 (I've set it to 4 earlier and everything was fine) it errors that it is greater than debhelper version | 04:57 |
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| Hobbsee | bjp: then change debhelper's version to >=5.0.0 as well, or however they have it | 04:58 |
| bjp | hobbsee: I guess I should have Build-Depends debhelper (=>5.0.0) as well? | 04:58 |
| bjp | hobbsee: ah :) | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: yep, that's what i mean | 04:58 |
| bjp | hobbsee: alright, now it's fixed. Should I increase the version of the package (0ubuntu2) or should I just dput -f? | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: ah, try dput -f | 05:00 |
| bjp | hobbsee: okay it's there again :) | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: cool | 05:02 |
| === Hobbsee is still fixing whatever broke here. | ||
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| bjp | hobbsee: I think the package is fine now, both linda and lintian are zero bytes | 05:09 |
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| Hobbsee | bjp: still trying to un-screw everything here sorry... | 05:09 |
| === Hobbsee wants a clean desktop by the time she's finished! | ||
| bjp | hobbsee: that's fine.. maybe you have to time to take a look at it later? :) | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: after that, i'll probably sleep :P | 05:11 |
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| Gloubiboulga | no no | 05:12 |
| zul | its a mirage | 05:12 |
| bjp | hobbsee: hehe sorry, maybe somebody else can do it.. wasn't my purpose to border you with it :) | 05:12 |
| Gloubiboulga | you're the only one in here | 05:12 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear :P | 05:12 |
| Hobbsee | bjp: :) | 05:12 |
| ogra_ | thats the prce you pay for motuness :) | 05:13 |
| ogra_ | *price even | 05:13 |
| bjp | hobbsee: although, what should I do except for dropping a note here? Since I did that last week and there were no reactions at all ;-) | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | ogra_: heh. you can review. | 05:14 |
| ogra_ | Hobbsee, EBUSY .... :) | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 05:14 |
| ogra_ | moving houses while creating milestone CDs and melting at 35C | 05:15 |
| zul | ogra_: heh...you got our temperature from monday...lucky you | 05:15 |
| sharms | ogra_: is creating milestone cds on the wiki? | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | whee...libdar*'s broken in debian too. | 05:16 |
| ogra_ | sharms, ? | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | ogra_: do try not to melt. | 05:16 |
| ogra_ | sharms, i doubt it ... | 05:16 |
| sharms | ogra_: what is the script or program used? | 05:16 |
| ogra_ | sharms, there is no script/program ... | 05:17 |
| ogra_ | its a lot of manpower (the whole distro team) and launchpads build structure | 05:17 |
| sharms | hrm so an individual would have a hard time making a custom cd? | 05:17 |
| ogra_ | i mean, sure there is mkisofs or mksquashfs somewhere wrapped in a script, in LP .... | 05:18 |
| ogra_ | thats documented on the wiki somewhere ... | 05:18 |
| ogra_ | but customizing is different to building a cd with LP | 05:18 |
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| LaserJock | siretart: ping? | 05:43 |
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| siretart | LaserJock: pong | 05:46 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | hi all, i'm trying to fix a bug in vim - syntax highlighting. i found a few files that look good, but i was hoping someone could help me check | 05:58 |
| Hobbsee | Kamping_Kaiser: i know nothing, nothing at all :P | 05:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thats why i didnt ask you :P | 05:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | </rudeness> | 05:59 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 05:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :P | 05:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | how are you, btw :) | 05:59 |
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| LaserJock | Kamping_Kaiser: haha, busy I guess :-) | 06:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. fraid so :| | 06:02 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser suspects sleepy as well | ||
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| Kamping_Kaiser | LaserJock, ping? | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | yeah? | 06:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | this src-deb is a diff, but i cant find the origonal in the directory :| should i just grep for some of the file contents? | 06:08 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser tries it | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | :( i cant find another. *wonder if he can find martin pitt or sjr about the place* | 06:09 |
| dholbach | Kamping_Kaiser: pitti is Martin Pitt | 06:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks dholbach , he seems to be away atm, might have to catch him tomorrow | 06:10 |
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| onkarshinde | I am trying to build a source package. Can someone help me with a problem? | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | ask, and hopefully somebody will know the answer | 10:47 |
| onkarshinde | When I do 'dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot', I receive error '/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: debian/rules: Permission denied' | 10:49 |
| LaserJock | what does ls -lh tell you about debian/rules | 10:49 |
| onkarshinde | LaserJock: -rw-r--r-- 1 onkar users 1.6K 2006-07-20 02:07 debian/rules | 10:50 |
| onkarshinde | LaserJock: Do I need 755 permissions? | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | I think it should be excecutable | 10:50 |
| onkarshinde | LaserJock: Ok. Actually I was refering debian/ubuntu packaging guide. I am new to this. | 10:51 |
| onkarshinde | LaserJock: Oops. I missed that part that this file should be executable | 10:52 |
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| phanatic | evening motu world | 11:41 |
| crimsun | hi | 11:41 |
| Cornellius | lo | 11:41 |
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