[12:09] grr how can i tell wth is using a mount so i can kill -9 it and umount [12:09] fuser or some such [12:11] fuser -m /mnt [12:12] If that doesn't work, wield lsof [12:13] losf [12:13] yea fuser -m nothing [12:13] lsof [12:13] = list open files [12:15] thanks === tmccrar1 [n=tmccrary@68.78.185.231] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] Hmm... My apt-watch build failed on the ia64 buildd due to dependencies. [12:29] libpanel-applet2-dev: Depends: libpanel-applet2-0 (= 2.14.2-1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [12:29] Depends: libgnomeui-dev (>= 2.10.0-1) but it is not going to be installed [12:31] Fujitsu: try installing those other two packages? [12:31] I don't have control over any ia64 machines, so no. === Hobbsee wonders what's up wiht apt-watch anyway. [12:33] What about it? [12:33] Fujitsu: should be fixed by a give-back on ia64... afaik all gnome packages should be fine on ia64 now [12:33] Ah. Thanks... Will it be automatically rebuilt? [12:35] I haven't had cause to merge packages before 24 hours ago, so I don't know those packages. [12:35] *those processes [12:35] not automatically unless it is on dep-wait [12:40] slomo, how can I force it to? [12:42] Fujitsu: ask someone from the buildd admins to do it... https://launchpad.net/people/launchpad-buildd-admins === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === whiprush_ [i=97710266@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === philipacamaniac [n=philip@ip68-228-55-137.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] I'm trying to manually build a binary debian package (no source). The program (ghamachi) installs and works great, except that I can't get a menu item added for the life of me. In the debian chroot, I've added a ./usr/share/applications/ghamachi.desktop and a ./usr/share/menu/ghamachi, but it doesn't show up in the menu. [01:36] what do you mean in the debian chroot? [01:37] er, umm... you know, you're making a binary package, and you put everything in {packagename-packageversion} folder [01:38] I'm not familiar with terminology, but that's where I build my package from [01:38] chroot has special significance, which is why I was confused [01:39] sorry, my mistake... should I clarify more? [01:39] are the desktop and menu files in debian/ in the extracted source package? [01:40] ah - see that's the problem. this particular app has no source, so I'm trying to manually build a binary package. I know that's a no-no, but I want to do it anyway. [01:40] so there is no extracted source package [01:42] ok. Are you rerolling the deb with the desktop and menu files in place, then? [01:42] And I presume the desktop file is actually valid? === pschulz01 [n=paul@150.101.6.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:43] (use desktop-file-validate from the 'desktop-file-utils' package) [01:45] grah... it's 2am and I can't sleep... [01:46] quick, merges [01:46] :) [01:46] ;-) [01:47] hehe === zul cracks the whip === Toadstool runs away [01:50] zul: thought that was my job :P [01:51] thats for kubuntu isnt it? === xopher [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] zul: could be for any of them [01:52] fine then..*put* [01:52] hehe [01:52] zul: go ahead and be the whip cracker today :P === Hobbsee is busy uploading [01:52] meh...i think ill crack the whip on myself :P [01:53] hehe === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@c-24-13-21-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] Is there a reason that we can't use pre-built binaries in creating packages? [02:07] FunnyLookinHat: yes. It has to build from source to be in universe. [02:10] What about bootstrapped packages, like gcc? gcc is obviously core, but other things, such as FreeBASIC... [02:10] admins by-hand. [02:11] I'm not grokking that sentence. [02:11] If something needs to be bootstrapped, the admins by-hand it (do it manually). [02:13] So, the source package is created as normal, and the creation of the binaries is handled manually? [02:14] installation [02:14] for instance, gcl [02:15] need a newer gcl, so it's built as normal and installed in the chroot by the admins [02:17] But isn't gcl written in C? [02:17] if something requires a newer gcl [02:17] it's the same process for anything that needs a manual bootstrap [02:18] did the upload process change? [02:18] But for something like FreeBASIC, where it's written in... itself... it can't be built at all without FreeBASIC in the first place. [02:18] i've sent a package using dput, but it didn't show up in revu [02:18] micahcowan: just like gcc can't be compiled without itself [02:19] micahcowan: so you use an existing version, which can be built from source, which is hand-installed by an admin [02:19] segfault: are you in the group listed in the last link of the /topic? [02:19] micahcowan: gcc follows a slightly different path, but the idea is that the admin is trusted enough to deal with the binaries [02:20] crimsun: yes [02:20] segfault: ? [02:20] crimsun: I think I'm understanding now... so the admins install the precompiled binaries in the places where they would be expected to be if they'd actually been installed from a package, and then build the packages as normal? [02:20] hobbsee: yes [02:20] oops [02:20] sorry [02:20] micahcowan: yep [02:20] crimsun, gotcha: thanks a bunch. [02:21] np [02:21] crimsun: how does one write a hooks script for pbuilder? [02:21] crimsun (or another MOTU), I've got two new merges on http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/merges [02:22] Hobbsee: ^^ [02:22] heh [02:22] Hobbsee: with your favourite text editor? :) === Toadstool hides [02:22] Toadstool: yeah, but what sort of thing is it? like, bash scripting or something? [02:23] mine are bash scripts [02:23] sh or perl for starters [02:23] Toadstool: ie, i want it to sudo pbuilder login, cp from the resulting dir to wherever it's now building, dpkg -i *.deb, and apt-get -f install. [02:23] otherwise you need to set up the env yourself === Hobbsee writes nothing in perl. === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] documented in pbuilder(8) ;-) [02:24] Toadstool: what scripts are you using? [02:24] er, hooks? [02:24] crimsun: yeah, i'm reading it now [02:24] Hobbsee: a script launching lintian -i on the .changes files if the build is successful and a login script if the build fails [02:25] Toadstool: nice! so you never test if it's installable? [02:25] yes, of course but i don't do that with pbuilder hooks for the moment [02:25] ah, you could test if it was installable or not by sudo pbuilder exectute, i suspect [02:26] Toadstool: ah okay. may i have your other spiffy script? [02:26] yep, of course [02:26] Toadstool: to hobbsee@kubuntu.org ? [02:26] ok === Hawkwind Spams Hobbsee's email === Hawkwind Hides, quickly [02:27] hah [02:27] Hawkwind: i already get spammed - gmail filters most of it. [02:30] no clue about revu? [02:31] segfault: only that your key isnt synced with the keyring yet [02:31] Hobbsee: mail sent [02:31] segfault: the keyrings are still synced by hand [02:31] humm [02:31] Toadstool: cool :) [02:31] and how do i sync it? [02:31] segfault: it'll be a little bit before an admin proccesses it. [02:31] ah, thanks. [02:31] processes. [02:34] Toadstool: got it, thanks [02:34] np === Hobbsee looks at how to modify it. === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@c-24-13-21-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] Toadstool: maybe i'm an idiot today, but what about all the other stuff in .pbuilderrc? [02:39] Hobbsee: always executed === Hobbsee doesnt undersatnd [02:42] well, I don't understand what you don't understand :) [02:42] afternoon [02:42] hi ajmitch [02:42] 'lo [02:42] crimsun: need me to resync the revu keyring? [02:42] heya ajmitch [02:43] Toadstool: i've already got http://rafb.net/paste/results/VJjsRg10.html in pbuilderrc (well, it's more complicated, because there are two, and in a complex location) [02:43] oh hmm...i know... [02:43] ajmitch: for segfault, I believe [02:44] right, it's syncing now [02:44] segfault: ^^ [02:44] segfault: what was the package uploaded? [02:46] Hobbsee: you don't really need what's in my pbuilderrc, it's just random pieces of shell script to have cleaner results imho [02:46] Toadstool: ah okay...so it can be safely ignored? [02:46] yep [02:48] segfault: never mind, I found it, it'll hopefully be on REVU in a couple of minutes [03:06] ajmitch: thanks === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] segfault: what's the purpose of this update? the only change I see is changing the standards version? [03:22] ajmitch: updating to edgy too, and its 0.1b and dappers version is older === ajmitch is comparing it to the version previously on REVU [03:23] ack, is there a way to wget all the files in a directory via http? [03:23] so the one on REVU didn't make it into dapper? [03:23] --mirror --no-parent [03:24] ajmitch: it did, but i uploaded a new version [03:24] ok [03:26] can anyone review it? [03:33] i have a package which upstream just opened its svn, what do i need to change in my package? === sharms [n=mindwarp@cpe-24-208-242-169.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] I don't see the purpose of using a pbuilder... if I am creating a package with debhelper how do I invoke using pbuilder (and for what reason)? [04:13] FunnyLookinHat: I make a source package (dpkg-buildpackage -S -us -uc -rfakeroot) then do a sudo pbuilder build package.dsc [04:14] FunnyLookinHat: it allows me to keep my system clean from packages I don't need, and contain the build process in a seperate, and clean environment [04:15] it lets you know if your deps are right too becuse it is basically the same set of packages that the build machines have [04:16] so if it builds in a pbuilder it *should* build on the Ubuntu machines === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] Ahhh ok. [04:22] LaserJock: should. [04:22] heh [04:23] Why (in this tutorial) is it having me grab the source for hello-debhelper... that makes no sense because why would I get the source from a repo if it isn't there yet. [04:23] well, it depends on if you pbuiler is updated, etc. [04:23] FunnyLookinHat: because I thought it would be nice to have a real life example [04:23] LaserJock: it's great, having a real life example [04:23] FunnyLookinHat: I made my build system upgrade to edgy [04:24] LaserJock: the updating a package stuff is confusing. [04:24] yeah [04:24] hmm... so I am going to just be comparing it to what I create.... [04:24] Got it. i think. ; ) [04:24] sort of, I could have done it a bit better I think, but it was my first try ;-) [04:25] Hobbsee: I'll be digging around for contributions soon ;-) [04:25] LaserJock, you did fine, i'm just way too tired to be trying this but it's the first free time I've found : ) [04:26] FunnyLookinHat: did you check out the mentors program? [04:26] Having a mentor is helping me tremendously [04:26] not in spelling, but packaging [04:26] sharms, I saw a post about it... I should probably look into it, shouldn't I? [04:26] haha [04:27] well, I'm hoping we will have a MOTU School session soon for you guys [04:27] LaserJock: heh. thought you might be. i do actually have an old log that's pretty helpful with that [04:27] What is the purpose of the .ex files (since they appear to only be used in complicated package builds) [04:28] they are example files (hence .ex) [04:28] you remove the .ex if you are actually going to use them [04:28] Ooh i see. [04:31] Hobbsee: the new and improved outline is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide [04:32] ack, I seemed to have lost Kubuntu! :( === LaserJock hangs his head in shame [04:33] ouch. [04:34] actually, I think my plan was to drop it as a section [04:34] but to integrate it throughout, where appropriate [04:34] because I didn't have a lot of material and it seem kinda out of place [04:35] Hobbsee: if you can come up with some Kubuntu specific packaging tips/things people need to know, that's be appreciated === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] although I don't have anything Gnome specific so ... [04:35] LaserJock: okay. a lot of us are getting bitten by the autoconf bug. [04:36] what is the autoconf bug [04:38] How exactly do I use gnupg to setup my key (never set one up before... oh dear) [04:39] !gpg > FunnyLookinHat [04:39] sharms: kde whinges about autoconf being too new [04:39] ty! [04:39] FunnyLookinHat: I recommend using seahorse [04:40] !seahorse [04:40] I know nothing about seahorse - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu [04:40] seahorse? [04:41] if I want to make a package for ogre, and debian only has an old version, can I just package the new one for ubuntu or do I need to request them to upgrade it? [04:41] FunnyLookinHat: GUI key manager, apt-get install seahorse [04:42] sharms, ahh ok === jsgotangco showers confetti to LaserJock === LaserJock takes a bow [04:44] "First of all I'd like to thank..." === Hobbsee mutes LaserJock. [04:45] everybody! === sharms cheers [04:45] sharms: you can use the old debian, and upgrade it yourself [04:45] LaserJock: :_ [04:45] :) [04:45] Hobbsee: Yeah I just didnt know if it was faux pa to jump ahead of debian [04:45] sharms: I'd ask debian if they plan to update soon [04:46] sharms: nah, it's not a problem. of course, fi you get the version into debian as well,that's even better :P [04:46] could be they are about ready too or have a good reason not to [04:46] May I paste 4 lines of output? GPG related error with debuild -S [04:46] or should I pastbin them [04:47] FunnyLookinHat: yeah, it's quiet enough === Hobbsee ducks [04:47] gpg: skipped "David Overcash ": secret key not available [04:47] gpg: [stdin] : clearsign failed: secret key not available [04:47] debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting.... [04:47] debuild: fatal error at line 791: [04:47] running debsign failed [04:47] That's the error I am getting : ( [04:47] did you create a key with a pass phrase etc? [04:48] yea, but my key had a comment (which this does not), is that the difference? [04:48] FunnyLookinHat: why are you signing with debuild at all? odd. use -kyourkeyidhere to get rid of that message [04:48] I'm just following LaserJock's tutorial! [04:49] debuild -S -k [04:49] FunnyLookinHat: ah right, i thought they were using dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -kyourkeyidhere [04:49] ask the master of packaging monsieur LaserJock [04:49] ugggg [04:50] I'm going to have to really learn how to package if this continues ;-) [04:50] hehe [04:50] ahh got it [04:50] w00t [04:50] LaserJock: hah. surely you can package already [04:50] Hobbsee: the reason I didn't use -k was because I've never had a problem [04:51] LaserJock: ahh...you specified your keyid in ~/.bashrc or something? [04:51] nope [04:51] What LaserJock means to say is that he is not uber-noober like me. [04:51] how weird [04:51] I have DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL set in .bashrc [04:51] that's it [04:52] odd. === Hobbsee is off for a while. [04:52] I only use -k when I need to sponsor an upload [04:52] be back tomorrow. [04:52] interesting [04:52] well, yeah [04:55] hmm ok, I'm not following this CDBS page very much... do i have to do anything with it or can I be done at sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc [04:56] FunnyLookinHat: you likely dont. you're creating the package from scrathc? [04:56] Hobbsee, yea... but I just ran that command and I don't see any .deb files : ) [04:56] !!!! [04:56] I know nothing about !!! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu [04:56] lol ubotu you rox0r [04:56] : P [04:57] FunnyLookinHat: you ran pbuilder? [04:57] Yup. [04:57] sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc [04:57] then it should be in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ [04:57] oh looky there! [04:57] I made a debian package!! === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] flippin hello world rox0rs my world. [04:58] And so if I were to submit this to REVU i would upload the .dsc .changes .deb and .tar.gz right? [04:58] hehe I didn't change my DEBFULLNAME or DEBEMAIL, and my system user name was "tv's patrick duffy" [04:59] FunnyLookinHat: no [04:59] FunnyLookinHat: we only want the source package [04:59] so you would dput revu *_source.changes [04:59] note the "source" part [05:00] I don't upload the package itself? [05:01] the .deb? no [05:01] FunnyLookinHat: I believe they have scripts that build them [05:01] Oh ok. [05:01] we have pbuilder :-) [05:02] ok... so i guess I should try to build this mythtv thing now that I have the basics down, heh [05:02] when I pbuild I keep getting: dpkg-parsechangelog: warning: no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined; using uid of process (1234) [05:02] should I worry about that? [05:02] nope [05:08] So, I have checked out all this sourcecode via svn... [05:09] should my dh_make line still be "dh_make -e funnylookinhat@gmail.com -f ../mythtv-0.19.tar.gz" even though no .tar.gz exists? [05:11] looks like lwn won't be running my article this week... Forrest hasn't gotten back to me yet, and I know it needs massive editing. I was hoping he'd give me a list of issues and I could just grind a fresh one out in an hour [05:11] (I'm very good at post-editing my own articles) === carthik [n=carthik@user-142h0oa.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:13] FunnyLookinHat: well, it's not going to work very well if you give it a non-existent file :-) [05:14] LaserJock, Right... but should I just remove the whole -f .tar.gz part of the line then? [05:14] why don't you have a .tar.gz? [05:15] because I got the source from svn [05:15] heh [05:15] and even tho I am running from the directory with the source it's telling me that I should go to the directory with the source [05:16] you should make a .orig.tar.gz anyway [05:16] even if it's from svn [05:16] hmm... === FunnyLookinHat googles for creating tarballs === FunnyLookinHat starts to look up MOTU mentors as well. [05:17] it's called tar, dude ;-) [05:18] right, but I forgot the parameters [05:18] -pczf : ) [05:19] -czf probably === quidam- [n=quidam@200.84.182.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] ooh this was a bad idea for a first package, hahaha [05:22] !gpg > quidam- [05:29] running sudo pbuilder build ...... crossing fingers.... [05:30] dangit [05:30] FTBFS [05:30] lol [05:30] the plight of a packager [05:30] what the crap kind of error is this: "Unknown option "--host=i486-linux-gnu"." [05:30] LOL [05:31] I bet if I just removed that from the line it would work, lol [05:34] WOW, you know I should give up when "grep -R host=i486-linux-gnu *" returns nothing, LOL [05:35] it's probably being substituted [05:35] right, this line [05:35] grep -R i486 * configure:x86_cpus="i386,i486,i586,i686,pentium,pentiumpro,${x86_mmx_cpus}" [05:35] configure: elif test x"$cpu_raw" = x"i486"; then [05:35] configure: ARCHFLAGS="-march=i486" [05:36] so.... the plan would be to..... just set it to i386 on my lonesome === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] did anybody have to do something to get their gpg key to work? [05:51] like for --clearsign and --decrypt? [05:53] Always worked fine for me... Did you import it? [05:54] import your own key? [05:55] Well, get the key to work in what? [05:55] command line [05:55] just to sign things [05:55] etc/ [05:55] etc. [05:56] I just have to add -k to my lines [05:56] I don't have to do anything special. === pschulz01 [n=paul@203.30.88.75] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] LaserJock, I just tried setting up a dev environment on my main desktop box and I didn't need the -k option.... go figure [06:19] weird [06:20] and I'm getting that same FTBFS error on this different box... which sucks : ) [06:26] ok, time for me to go away [06:26] 12 straight hrs today :/ [06:26] I need to do some real work one of these days === Rotund [n=joe@69-179-21-102.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-30.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] 'morning === antinobody [n=sean@71-214-89-10.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cornellius [n=a@142-217-38-112.telebecinternet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] hi all [08:00] hey zakame [08:01] heya Toadstool === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-178-169.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:16] How odd. [08:16] gnome-sudoku's versioning is stuffed. [08:16] 0.4.0-2ubuntu3 is in fact based on 0.4.0-1 === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] hmm... indeed :) [08:19] Where can I obtain 0.4.0-1? None of the Debian archives seem to have it? [08:19] snapshot.debian.net/gnome-sudoku [08:19] AH. [08:19] Thanks. [08:20] :O [08:20] dholbach did it... === polpak [n=polpak@ip68-6-43-90.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] Ah. [08:21] That looks like a better diff now. No lowering of compat versions... === kintaroOe [n=ad0lf@203.177.212.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B247D.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:51] good morning - HAPPY HUGDAY to everybody! [08:51] Hey dholbach! [08:51] hey Fujitsu === Fujitsu pokes dholbach with a very pointy stick. === dholbach throws something heavy [08:52] You made a mistake in gnome-sudoku when you made 0.4.0-2ubuntu1. [08:52] yeah? [08:52] It should have been 0.4.0-1ubuntu1 :P [08:52] oh yeah [08:52] 10 people told me already [08:52] Ah. [08:53] :-) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] :) [08:53] Well, 0.5.0-1ubuntu1 is almost done... === Yagisan waves to ajmitch and StevenK [08:57] Fujitsu: ubuntu1? I requested a sync... the only thing that may be merged is the .desktop stuff but when I read seb128's mail on -devel about that kind of merges, I decided to send a patch upstream (which is now included in their svn by the way) [08:57] Hm. [08:57] Ah. === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:57] OK. When did you request the sync? [08:58] yesterday :) [08:58] Hmm. [08:58] I checked this morning and there were no bugs on it. [08:58] How many hours ago is your yesterday? [08:59] bug 53361 [08:59] Malone bug 53361 in gnome-sudoku "Please sync gnome-sudoku (universe) from Debian unstable" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53361 [09:00] Ah. [09:00] 12 hours ago. [09:01] yep [09:02] Wouldn't it be nice if MoM were integrated with Launchpad, thus eliminating this sort of stuff? [09:02] It doesn't update very often... [09:02] And until they're actually synced it's a little misleading >_< [09:03] :) [09:04] Can somebody please deal with two merges and a sync I've got? [09:04] I can take a look at the merges [09:05] http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/merges/ [09:05] Just the two `Outstanding' ones, obviously. [09:13] uuh, I hope FunnyLookinHat won't be scared if he checks his inbox and finds a lot of homework :) === siretart waves to FunnyLookinHat [09:14] hey lucas. I see you passed FD as well (some time ago)? congrats! [09:14] :-) [09:14] thank you [09:15] Fujitsu: pdebuilding drivel [09:16] Thanks, Toadstool. [09:16] FD? [09:16] Front Desk? [09:16] yes [09:16] What do you mean? [09:17] Fujitsu: Debian Front Desk, lucas is about to become a Debian Dev ;) [09:17] Aha. [09:17] Fujitsu: that's a step of the debian new maintainer process [09:17] Nice! [09:17] Congratulations, lucas! [09:17] :) [09:17] well, "about" might not be true [09:17] I still have to wait for DAM approval [09:18] :) === Fujitsu pokes his finger, and wonders when it's going to turn on again... [09:19] It's sort of... gone white and numb. [09:24] Fujitsu: ok, drivel uploaded [09:24] Thanks, === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:28] Evening, Gloubiboulga. [09:29] morning Fujitsu ;) [09:32] Aha. That's better. [09:32] Finally, a use for an infinite while-loop. Generating heat from the laptop to warm up fingers :P [09:33] heh [09:33] you can also use gentoo ;) [09:33] I was going to compile a kernel or something, but they're large, and my download limit is small. [09:33] using pbuilder unceasingly works, too. [09:34] incessantly if you prefer. [09:34] Fujitsu: pdebuilding/testing exim [09:34] Good, good. [09:34] I tested it, but best to be safe :) [09:35] yep :) [09:35] Toadstool, already working, that's great :) [09:35] heh :) === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bjp [n=bart@82-170-236-40-static.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:40] Fujitsu: exim uploaded [09:40] thanks for the merges :) [09:41] Thanks. [09:41] ok, back to bugs :) [09:42] Could somebody also approve a sync request? [09:42] you already filed the sync request? [09:44] Toadstool, yep. [09:44] which bug, then? :) [09:44] http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/syncs/ [09:44] Ah.. [09:44] 53406. [09:45] let me see [10:07] Had a look yet? [10:07] Ah. [10:07] I see. [10:07] Thanks :) [10:09] oops, yeah, i confirmed the sync :) === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] One thing that's been annoying me for ages... Why does pbuilder take sooooo long to consider build-deps? [10:24] Fujitsu: it can't be ages [10:24] Fujitsu: it started happening with mvo's last apt upload, which is barely 2 weeks ago [10:24] > 1 minute for libvte-dev, I think. [10:25] Oh. [10:25] As in ages... [10:25] Well, I only really started using pbuilders regularly 48 hours ago. [10:25] Seems like ages, though. [10:25] pffft :) [10:25] Hmm. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu wonders what gphpedit's changelog is doing with the first Ubuntu release saying `resynchronising from Debian'. === shenki [n=Joel@ppp168-239.lns3.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.27.251] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-100-078.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === polpak [n=polpak@ip68-6-43-90.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu swears. [11:00] A bug was just filed on my vpnc build... It's apparently broken :( === Fujitsu looks. === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:11] I've uploaded a flamerobin ubuntu package last week to be reviewed. What time does it aproximatically take for a package to be reviewed? The package is available at: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2688 [11:12] bjp: lots of nagging! [11:13] bjp: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/flamerobin-0607120655/linda [11:13] Does anybody here use vpnc, by any chance? [11:13] bjp: also, http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/flamerobin-0607120655/lintian === Arbiter [n=arbiter@adsl-33-72.37-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:14] bjp: those points need looking at and fixing [11:15] hi all [11:16] sladen: thanks. It probably is because I've created a binary package first, and then build the source package for revu. [11:17] I'll try building the revu package from start and upload that one [11:17] bjp: if you use debuild -S [11:17] bjp: then that will clean the package first. [11:17] bjp: that accounts for one of the warnings (autoconf files) [11:18] bjp: there are a few others; the Standards-Version mentioned in debian/control [11:18] well IIRC I did use that, but I'll look into it [11:18] bjp: have .svn directories [11:18] can I review the error files you've pointed out before I've actually uploaded the package? [11:19] bjp: there appears to already be a flamerobin-0.7.2 in revu, is that yours? === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] sladen: depends on it, where did you found it? [11:21] sladen: I just see one flamerobin package on the main revu page === Arbiter [n=arbiter@adsl-33-72.37-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:22] sladen: where did you find the .svn directories, as I've used the official source package which doesn't contain .svn folders. The only thing is that revision.svn is included [11:22] bjp: have you used 3.7.2 for the standard? [11:22] bjp: does 'ls -a' show you them? [11:23] cbx33: I'm sorry I don't get it exactly.. what do you mean? [11:23] bjp: in debian/control as said above [11:23] sladen: I did that, of course :), but is doesn't show them in my source folder === Arbiter fixes colorscheme [11:24] sladen: ah I see them and will fix it. Thanks :) [11:24] bjp: okay, it's probably looking with find -name \*.svn see what it does and that might match that file you found === Enverex [i=user@host-84-9-189-109.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] sladen: I think the revision.svn file is allowed, isn't it? [11:25] bjp: the compat file should now be 5 not 4 shouldn't it sladen ? [11:25] bjp: if this is an upstream tarball, then you shouldn't be using a native package [11:25] bjp: native means that it was written specifically for Debian, and that's very rare [11:26] bjp: ah there any other files that it matches? [11:26] sladen: yeah I've found the .svn dir in debian and removed it. In the next package it will be gone, thanks :) [11:27] bjp: how did it get there, presumably you created the contents of debian/ [11:27] sladen: well the package is used for a debian package and I've derived it to build an Ubuntu package for linking some other dependencies than the Debian has (other library versions) [11:28] The guide for making with debhelper and uploading doesn't work btw, there are steps missing that mean it doesn't work unless you do them [11:28] bjp: in that case, if it's already in Debian, just request a sync for it [11:29] Enverex: which guide? [11:29] https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-debhelper.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ubuntu-upload.html [11:29] sladen: well that's the problem. It takes a very long time for a package to be included in Debian and we're still wondering whether it is every going to be included [11:30] Not to mention dbuild doesn't work properly either, it always craps out with an error on trying to sign the files [11:30] Enverex: ever seen https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html [11:30] sladen: that's why I've made the Ubuntu package; to offer more convenience to the Ubuntu users of Flamerobin [11:30] oh sorry [11:30] those are chapters in it yes? [11:30] brb [11:30] cbx33, Erm, the pages I just showed you ARE pages of that [11:31] yeah, heh [11:31] bjp: right, so where did you find this Debian package, if not in Debian? [11:31] debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting.... debuild: fatal error at line 791: running debsign failed [11:31] bjp: (the package that you started with and which are modifying [11:32] Enverex: have you got your gpg key setup? [11:32] do you have gpg installed? [11:32] Yup [11:32] hmmm [11:32] when you modifed the changelog did you use the right email address? [11:33] somebody else on the community of Flamerobin has made this package for Debian already and I assumed it was fine. Probably it isn't so I'll create my very own Ubuntu one. I think you're suggesting to do it first of all right? :) [11:33] Yes, I can sign things with debsign but not by running debuild [11:39] hmmm [11:39] Also, the E-UAE thing I uploaded the other day still hasn't shown in REVU, any ideas why? [11:39] key not synced? [11:39] w00t, there are a lot of old packages ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming/ that were not updated into REVU [11:39] did you join the revu group? [11:39] cbx33, Yes and Yes [11:39] hey Arbiter hows the pacakge? [11:39] sladen: btw, isn't there any possibility to share the debian/ folder between Debian and Ubuntu packages? [11:39] Arbiter, : Ha, there it id [11:39] Enverex: have you ever uploaded to revu before? [11:39] *is [11:39] cbx33, i've fixed two more issues [11:39] nice [11:39] cbx33, It's on that site Arbiter just daid === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:39] hello motu world [11:39] cbx33, * orig-tarball changed. Please use exactly what you downloaded as .orig.tar.gz. (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/CommonPackagingMistakes/ChangingTheOrigTarball) [11:39] * debian/copyright: you miss the license in src/core/compat-round.{cc,h} [11:39] :D [11:39] fixed & fixed [11:39] bjp: yes, but we do it with a diff! [11:39] s it in rejected? [11:39] Enverex: ? [11:39] any MOTUs around here? [11:39] Erm, two of the files are in that folder, one is in rejected [11:39] bjp: that original package isn't going into Debian, until all the warning are sorted out with it anyway [11:39] phanatic: what;'s up [11:39] I'm not a MOTU [11:39] but just ask your question :p [11:39] then you need to find out why it was rejected [11:39] owww [11:39] cbx33: sorry, i need a MOTU :) it's about uploading stuff... [11:39] bjp: personally, I suggest being a new, non-native package (as normally done) and doing a proper packaging job from scratch [11:39] phanatic: you need stuff uploaded? [11:39] after the upload advocates are reset [11:39] pffff.... [11:39] cbx33, Oh, so does that mean those other two files are fine but there's something wrong with just that file? [11:39] Enverex: what is the package name? [11:39] I would think so? [11:39] cbx33: in fact a quick review and an upload :) [11:39] sladen: he didn't tell me that the debian package contained errors (warnings) as well. I'll start from scratch and come up with a proper ubuntu package then [11:39] phanatic: I can do a quick review [11:39] cbx33: thanks, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2585 [11:39] bjp: so, grab the upstream tarball. un tar it, mkdir -p debian and make control/changelog (you can look at the other package for ideas, but don't copy the bugs :) [11:39] cbx33, e-uae [11:39] raphink: ping [11:39] pong [11:39] cbx33, The changelog, is that a changelog for the program or for the debian package? [11:39] phanatic: looks like it's already been approved and uploaded [11:39] bjp: rocking! if the upstream is 0.7.2, then we'll assume the Debian version is going to be 0, so you'll have a version of 0.7.2-0ubuntu1 [11:39] of have you just updated it? [11:39] cbx33: not the latest version [11:39] ah ok [11:39] lemme see [11:39] cbx33: it's for edgy containing some bugfixes [11:39] Can anyone answer that question? [11:39] oook, advocates: fixed package wants you ;) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2742 [11:39] sladen: shouldn't I use the build tools to create the debian directory? [11:39] phanatic: what's up? [11:39] phanatic: looks good to me [11:40] raphink: do you have time for a quick review + upload? [11:40] bjp: no. make your changes; and at the end, debuild -S will produce a .diff (we have a .dsc, the orig.tar.gz and the .diff and changes) [11:40] no I don't have time to review [11:40] raphink: actually it was reviewed a several times, just need an upload [11:40] The changelog file in debian/, is that a changelog for the program or for the debian package? [11:40] raphink: sysinfo package with bugfixes [11:40] phanatic: I'd have to review it myself though [11:40] I'd like to I mean [11:41] so I'll do it later on [11:41] raphink: okay, thanks [11:41] sladen: okay. What standards version should I use than? And can I change the compat file to 5? [11:41] is there no other MOTU around who could review it? [11:41] siretart: can you put a newer version of linda/lintian on revu [11:41] raphink: nobody put his/her hands up :) [11:41] bjp: you might actually be correct, leave it at that for the moment [11:41] sladen: we have to plan an upgrade of tiber [11:41] raphink: nice [11:41] to dapper [11:41] Anyone? [11:41] get rid of all those standards errors :p [11:42] it's not planned yet [11:42] hehe [11:42] for the least we already have an edgy pbuilder :) [11:42] :D [11:42] sladen: alright. I'll change the version of the package to 0.7.2-0ubuntu1 [11:42] sladen: and remove the .svn folder [11:43] Enverex: that's for your package of it [11:43] I believe [11:43] Ah, that's why it's rejected then [11:43] I'll go fix [11:43] y? [11:43] sladen: and the autobuild stuff, etc. Hopefully I get to upload a new version in the afternoon. Can I contact you again when I've uploaded the newer one? :) [11:43] o.O my karma on launchpad bumped from 449 to 1116 [11:44] instant karma gonna get you [11:45] heheh karma is such a funny thing [11:45] it means practically nothing :p [11:45] hee hee hee [11:45] mine is 41076 [11:45] i see [11:45] but it's cos I wrote some specs [11:45] cbx33, I thought it was a changelog for the program [11:45] O.O [11:46] Enverex: I'm not 100% sure [11:46] to be perfectly honest [11:46] Do you need to run pbuilder for it to make the files which you upload or are those made by debuild? [11:46] Enverex: you should run debuils -S [11:47] to build the source pacakge [11:47] that's what goes up to REVU [11:47] but you should run pbuilder to make sure it builds ok [11:47] before you upload [11:48] yeah, I know, it's just why does dbuilder always crap out and if I run debsign it says debsign: Can't find or can't read changes file ../ccd2iso_0.2-0ubuntu1_i386.changes!2 which is only built when you pbuilder it [11:57] Also, it wont let me reupload (even with -f) [11:57] Package includes an .orig.tar.gz file although the debian revision suggests [11:57] that it might not be required. Multiple uploads of the .orig.tar.gz may be [11:57] rejected by the upload queue management software. === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089F9F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Enverex [i=user@host-84-9-189-109.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:08] Stupid network [12:08] Did anyone get anything I said === Enverex shakes the channel [12:10] Come on guys, I'm not spending 10 hours on a package again [12:11] please be patient [12:11] we're all volunteers [12:11] maybe you should rephrase your question [12:12] Uploading via ftp e-uae_0.8.29-WIP2-0ubuntu1.dsc: Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of e-uae_0.8.29-WIP2-0ubuntu1.dsc [12:12] How do I get it to overwrite the old one? [12:12] you're uploading to REVU? [12:12] Yeah [12:13] ok, sorry, I never did that === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] [12:13] maybe those files get cleaned up by a cronjob every once in a while [12:13] so maybe try again in a couple of hours [12:13] otherwise, contact the REVU admins, I'd say [12:13] but this is just my uneducated gues [12:13] s/gues/guess/ === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] They've been there for a while [12:14] Surely there is some way to overwrite them... [12:15] do they belong to a proper prior upload? Or a halfway-through upload? [12:15] Part of the prior upload has been rejected so I'm trying to upload the new version === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] Does anyone know how I remove files from REVU> [12:19] *? [12:22] Enverex: upload with dput -f [12:22] that'll overwrite the old ones... [12:22] But it doesn't [12:23] It still says the site rejected it [12:23] is your key correct and accepted by revu? === derjohn [n=derjohn@80.69.37.19] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] Yes. It worked the first time to upload both programs but it wont let me overwrite [12:23] :/ [12:23] ask a revu admin maybe [12:24] i have via vt8251-based mobo. that chipset is supported since 2.6.17 only. is there a ubuntu-server install cd out (nightly or such) that is 2.6.17 based? === jdmpike [n=jordan@host-87-74-96-69.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] hey guys, how hard would it be to create a package called network-manager-xfce4? [12:25] It'll take you days, and you'll go insane in the process [12:25] probably [12:25] network-manager-gtk might be more appropriate [12:26] what that a massive undertaking? [12:26] creating the kde/gnome versions of the frontends? [12:26] phanatic, PMed you the whole output to see if it makes more sense === mpathy [n=mm@stgt-d9bea999.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] Enverex: looks like a revu problem. ping one of the revu admins, they can help... [12:30] ... which are they? heh [12:32] Enverex: https://launchpad.net/people/revu-hackers [12:34] ping ajmitch siretart raphink [12:37] Enverex: yes? [12:38] siretart, I seem to be unable to upload a new version of something to REVU, it let me upload the initial one but I had to change something and it wont let me overwrite the old one [12:39] Enverex: which package? [12:39] self-answer (for the logs, if any): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [12:40] siretart, e-uae and ccd [12:40] erm, ccd2iso === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] Enverex: the later one was uploaded as binary, which is being ignored by the upload processor and blocks further uploads [12:41] just cleaned the queue, you may reupload now [12:42] Thanks, I didn't even mean to upload that in the first place, heh [12:42] but be sure that you only upload *_source.changes, and no *_i386.changes files [12:43] Yeah, the guides were confusing and that was my first upload [12:43] debuilder doesn't work properly and dies when trying to sign [12:46] lol, Ubuntu live support rejected [12:46] Oh the irony [12:50] Hi there.. What do you think about my feature request here? https://launchpad.net/bounties/compilation-options-checker [12:57] That's odd, my uploads haven't appeared in that upload folder yet [12:58] Oh, it's on the REAL page now, heh === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089F9F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] Just hope they aren't too borked and get rejected, heh. They both build and install fine through the .deb file as I'm using them now, yay. Heh. [01:42] mpathy, i think that your feature request fits better under specs, unless you want to pay someone for implementing the feature [01:46] siretart, : ) I just woke up and saw your email. Unfortunately I have to go to work right now but I'll probably start to read it at work : ) [01:46] Thanks for helping me : ) [01:46] FunnyLookinHat: I'm currently at work as well [01:46] FunnyLookinHat: I'm happy that I can help you :) [01:46] siretart, See you later! [02:01] Arbiter: Can I "move" it? 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[02:17] omg borked === \sh [n=shermann@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] slomo, ping === mettala [n=mettala@letku30.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-89-198.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] Hello === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:57] slomo, libgimp-cil builds correctly also in pbuilder :) === mettala is now known as joumetal [03:08] slomo, i've uploaded an updated version... you can review it if you want :D [03:09] I'm amazed no-one complained about e-uae not being in Ubuntu, people are likely going to jump all over it when it comes out :P [03:10] Enverex, :D [03:11] I've installed both of my packages locally and they seem fine, so any rejections are going to be something astetic or silly [03:11] Enverex, tried to build the package in pbuilder? [03:11] Yeah, that's how I got the .deb file to install [03:12] good [03:12] ( I mean I installed via the deb file, not just a manual compilation else that wouldn't prove it worked, heh) [03:12] sure === Arbiter loves pbuilder [03:14] Making packages for ./configure && make && make install programs seems really easy now, heh, but there are programs like oolite that are a bit more complicated [03:14] hehehe [03:15] making an ebuild for gentoo is often more complex :P [03:15] and there's no pbuilder... :PPP [03:17] True but you just "emerge blah" [03:18] As you don't need to make packages [03:18] It's more complicated to make but easier to see if it worked properly [03:18] :) [03:18] Enverex, i've used gentoo for about a year [03:18] :) [03:19] then i got bored of compiling everytime [03:19] so i moved to debian firstly, then ubuntu :D [03:20] Yeah, heh. It's nice. Pick some programs, install. 20 seconds later (including download time) it's all usable. Rather than 3 hours. === NthDegree [n=nthdegre@194-247-233-84.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] It's also nice to be able to browse through the programs with icons and such too. [03:21] Enverex, it's better to let the ubuntu's build servers compile the programs for us :D [03:22] lol [03:22] but but but.. my -funroll-loops -crazyloops -omgwtf-loops -march=uberpc flags!! [03:22] until you have submitted enough packages I take it you have to submit .src.debs [03:24] my CFLAGS under gentoo: -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -mmmx -msse -fweb and such things :P [03:24] you know -O3 is generally slower than -O2 or -Os, right? [03:25] mmx and sse are already part of -march=athlon-xp [03:25] Mithrandir, yep it generates bigger executables [03:25] Mithrandir, in fact after some time i did an emerge -e world with CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe" :D [03:27] Arbiter, dare you to try that with SSP :p [03:29] hmmm...when did we become #gentoo-motu === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@ppp194-28.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] zul, hee hee hee === robert__ [n=robert@202.134.254.128] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] hello all === robert__ [n=robert@202.134.254.128] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] hi all [03:49] hey [03:49] :) [03:49] umm...shouldnt you be uploading stuff to universe? === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] heh === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu === idrivel [n=idrivel@218.28.177.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] join #ubuntu-devel [04:28] heh, hi Gloubiboulga [04:28] hm, it doesn't work [04:28] hi Hobbsee :) [04:28] :) === chrisjr [n=usarname@ppp-58.8.23.23.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] hi [04:37] I have a motu-mentor! [04:39] hi guys, is there any way to view the Linda file before dputting a source package? [04:39] bjp: which linda file? [04:39] bjp: linda foo.dsc [04:41] hobbsee: thanks. Same holds for lintian I guess? [04:41] bjp: yep [04:41] hobbsee: great! I'll check it out :) [04:42] :) [04:42] hobbsee: no output is prefered I hope? :) [04:42] bjp: yes === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] hobbsee: okay than linda is finally right :) [04:43] :) === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Out-a-herre"] [04:43] bjp: run it on a binary .changes files to also get the .debs checked [04:43] bjp: of course it is. i can whinge at the maintainer and writer of it, too :P [04:44] hobbsee: just lintian warns "source: package-uses-deprecated-debhelper-compat-version 1" [04:44] hobbsee: lol :) [04:44] bjp: *ouch* why 1? [04:44] that's *way* out of date === n3xu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] hobbsee: the lintian warning is because the compat file is missing I guess.. should I add 4 or 5 to the file? [04:45] bjp: is this package already in debian? [04:45] hobbsee: nope it isn't. We're trying to, but it gets a lot of delay. [04:46] hobbsee: so we'd like to have it included in ubuntu for the convenience of our ubuntu users :) [04:46] bjp: so who set the compat 1? [04:47] azeem: thanks, still no errors in linda === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] hobbsee: I didn't had the 'compat' file in the 'debian' directory, so I guess it defaults to one (1) === Arbiter [n=arbiter@adsl-33-72.37-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] bjp: ah. change it to 5 then [04:49] hi * [04:49] hi Arbiter [04:49] hey Hobbsee [04:49] how are you? :D [04:49] hobbsee: I did that, lintian isn't warnings anymore either [04:50] hobbsee: is this the right time to dput the package to revu, or can/should I check some additional things too? [04:50] Gloubiboulga, ping [04:50] bjp: cool :) [04:50] bjp: dput it to revu [04:50] Arbiter: good, doing some uploads :) [04:50] Hobbsee, hehehehe [04:50] i'm waiting for my 2nd advocate === Spec[x] [n=dragonco@charon.devis.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] Arbiter: ah fun. what for? [04:52] hobbsee: thanks for you're help! :) It's uploaded now and I will comment the upload as it appears on revu [04:52] i've fixed some problem reported by sistpoty === sharms [n=mindwarp@cpe-24-208-242-169.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] bjp: cool, paste the link here? [04:52] *problems* [04:53] he also advocated the package this morning [04:53] !spell advocated [04:53] I know nothing about spell advocated - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu [04:53] aw === Arbiter needs a spellchecker [04:53] :D [04:54] hobbsee: it's the second upload of the flamerobin package, available at: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2688 === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host97-133.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:57] hobbsee: I see trouble with compat now. After changing it to 5 (I've set it to 4 earlier and everything was fine) it errors that it is greater than debhelper version === lukketto [n=lukketto@host97-133.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:58] bjp: then change debhelper's version to >=5.0.0 as well, or however they have it [04:58] hobbsee: I guess I should have Build-Depends debhelper (=>5.0.0) as well? [04:58] hobbsee: ah :) [04:58] bjp: yep, that's what i mean [05:00] hobbsee: alright, now it's fixed. Should I increase the version of the package (0ubuntu2) or should I just dput -f? [05:00] bjp: ah, try dput -f [05:02] hobbsee: okay it's there again :) [05:02] bjp: cool === Hobbsee is still fixing whatever broke here. === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] hobbsee: I think the package is fine now, both linda and lintian are zero bytes === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089F9F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Xnix [n=xnix@n157s046.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] bjp: still trying to un-screw everything here sorry... === Hobbsee wants a clean desktop by the time she's finished! [05:11] hobbsee: that's fine.. maybe you have to time to take a look at it later? :) [05:11] bjp: after that, i'll probably sleep :P === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee notes that there are other MOTU's hiding somewhere too.. [05:12] no no [05:12] its a mirage [05:12] hobbsee: hehe sorry, maybe somebody else can do it.. wasn't my purpose to border you with it :) [05:12] you're the only one in here [05:12] oh dear :P [05:12] bjp: :) [05:13] thats the prce you pay for motuness :) [05:13] *price even [05:13] hobbsee: although, what should I do except for dropping a note here? Since I did that last week and there were no reactions at all ;-) [05:14] ogra_: heh. you can review. [05:14] Hobbsee, EBUSY .... :) [05:14] hehe [05:15] moving houses while creating milestone CDs and melting at 35C [05:15] ogra_: heh...you got our temperature from monday...lucky you [05:16] ogra_: is creating milestone cds on the wiki? [05:16] whee...libdar*'s broken in debian too. [05:16] sharms, ? [05:16] ogra_: do try not to melt. [05:16] sharms, i doubt it ... [05:16] ogra_: what is the script or program used? [05:17] sharms, there is no script/program ... [05:17] its a lot of manpower (the whole distro team) and launchpads build structure [05:17] hrm so an individual would have a hard time making a custom cd? [05:18] i mean, sure there is mkisofs or mksquashfs somewhere wrapped in a script, in LP .... [05:18] thats documented on the wiki somewhere ... [05:18] but customizing is different to building a cd with LP === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-19-74.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bjp [n=bart@82-170-236-40-static.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["going] === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] siretart: ping? === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Quitte"] [05:46] LaserJock: pong === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] hi all, i'm trying to fix a bug in vim - syntax highlighting. i found a few files that look good, but i was hoping someone could help me check [05:58] Kamping_Kaiser: i know nothing, nothing at all :P [05:59] thats why i didnt ask you :P [05:59] [05:59] :P [05:59] :P [05:59] how are you, btw :) === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] Kamping_Kaiser: haha, busy I guess :-) [06:02] lol. fraid so :| === Kamping_Kaiser suspects sleepy as well === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] LaserJock, ping? [06:07] yeah? [06:08] this src-deb is a diff, but i cant find the origonal in the directory :| should i just grep for some of the file contents? === Kamping_Kaiser tries it [06:09] :( i cant find another. *wonder if he can find martin pitt or sjr about the place* [06:10] Kamping_Kaiser: pitti is Martin Pitt [06:10] thanks dholbach , he seems to be away atm, might have to catch him tomorrow === Kamping_Kaiser swears the package wasnt this complex last time he tried === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089F9F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.163] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns02-0520.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pimeja [n=pimeja@spider.network.lviv.ua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cornellius [n=Alain@142-217-38-112.telebecinternet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [i=fargon@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netgrabber [i=fiHpWLaI@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === onkarshinde [n=ubuntu-f@59.95.7.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] I am trying to build a source package. Can someone help me with a problem? [10:47] ask, and hopefully somebody will know the answer [10:49] When I do 'dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot', I receive error '/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: debian/rules: Permission denied' [10:49] what does ls -lh tell you about debian/rules [10:50] LaserJock: -rw-r--r-- 1 onkar users 1.6K 2006-07-20 02:07 debian/rules [10:50] LaserJock: Do I need 755 permissions? [10:50] I think it should be excecutable [10:51] LaserJock: Ok. Actually I was refering debian/ubuntu packaging guide. I am new to this. [10:52] LaserJock: Oops. I missed that part that this file should be executable === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micah@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:41] evening motu world [11:41] hi [11:41] lo === Pazzo [n=thomas@host130-250-static.72-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu