[12:09] <coachJ> i changed the default browser to Firefox in Kcontrol ctr, but when I click a link in an email it still uses Konquorer, why?
[12:10] <coachJ> anyone?
[12:13] <centyx> ARE U READY!?
[12:13] <centyx> oh sorry
[12:14] <bobbyyu> I have a problem: when I load adept, it says it's already running when it's not
[12:19] <bobbyyu> Looks like no one can help me
[12:20] <LjL> bobbyyu: does "ps aux | grep -i adept" show anything?
[12:20] <centyx> too late!
[12:21] <LjL> well, he *was* still here when i asked
[12:21] <centyx> LjL: heh, I know
[12:21] <centyx> he was just an empty shell
[12:21] <centyx> he'd already given up
[12:21] <centyx> given in
[12:21] <LjL> heh
[12:24] <cox377_> does anyone here use the kubuntu wireless assistant?
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> cox377_: I think wpa_gui is the best wireless assistant (graphical)
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> !info wpa_gui
[12:24] <ubotu> Package wpa_gui does not exist in dapper
[12:24] <cox377_> I'm just using the default one on install for kubuntu
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> !info wpa_gui edgy
[12:24] <cox377_> Dammit
[12:24] <ubotu> Package wpa_gui does not exist in edgy
[12:25] <cox377_> thing is, after u spoke to "knob" earlier.. which was me i got the modprob working fine under ndiswrapper
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> Its stupid network manager doesn't work properly and they don't include the official wpa_supplicant gui
[12:25] <crimsun> !info wpagui edgy
[12:25] <ubotu> wpagui: GUI for wpa_supplicant. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4-2 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 220 kB
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> crimsun: perfect
[12:25] <cox377_> but.. it doesnt connect on start up
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> livecd installer is taking forever to partition the drive
[12:26] <Distro^Junkie> how big a drive ?
[12:27] <crimsun> Tommy2k4: use the alternate installer, then. It should take a minute max, in the livecd, if things are working correctly.
[12:27] <Tommy2k4> 84gb drive
[12:27] <Tommy2k4> or around that
[12:27] <Distro^Junkie> I got a 250 gig and it didn't take all that long
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> cox377_: Have you thought of trying knetworkmanager (it doesn't work well for me but may for you)
[12:28] <Tommy2k4> it had problems just booting to the livecd though
[12:28] <Tommy2k4> buffer i/o error on device dm-1 at block 4324324798
[12:28] <Tommy2k4> any amount of errrors like that
[12:28] <cox377_> h3sp4wn: ummm i shall give it a go mate
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> cox377_: ndiswrapper works really well with hotplug I have been liking it more recently
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> cox377_: Other than that I can tell you to just set it up from the commandline
[12:29] <cpk2> anyone know how to set up a mx record for postfix?
[12:29] <Distro^Junkie> Tommy2k4: sounds like you may have some bad blocks on your hard drive
[12:30] <Tommy2k4> yea
[12:30] <Tommy2k4> i think my primary master is b0rked
[12:30] <Tommy2k4> but i boot windows ( & installing kubuntu) on primary slave so it shouldnt be a problem should it?
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: Running your own dns server or someone elses ?
[12:32] <Distro^Junkie> Tommy2k4: naww you should be ok
[12:36] <satafterh> what do i use to set up my dsl connection(password)
[12:38] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: i have a domain name from dyndns
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> cpk2: It took me ages to work out how to decently make sure that my dndns ip updated propely I presume you just set the mx from that site
[12:39] <cpk2> h3sp4wn: mx record from dyndns costs money =\
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> maybe just get a proper domain they are very cheap these days
[12:41] <Hawkwind> Yeah you can get a domain for $10 a year.  Then renewal is cheaper than that sometimes
[12:49] <MrBallZ> hi, does anyone have problems with Samba on Dapper 6.06 ???  I've tried to share a folder but not working ... any sugestions ?
[12:50] <h3sp4wn> MrBallZ: manually editting smb.conf ?
[12:51] <MrBallZ> that could be something .... :P
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> That is the way I would do it
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> (wouldn't use any gui stuff it - its not that hard to do)
[12:53] <icedragon1> What do I need to do to finish moving from ubuntu to kubuntu (alls I did was sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop)?  Gnome panel is still running, for instance...
[12:53] <icedragon1> I chose kdm as my display manager
[12:54] <h3sp4wn> icedragon1: select kde as the session type
[12:54] <icedragon1> h3sp4wn, I have, and it shows a kubuntu splash on boot, and even a kubuntu login prompt
[12:54] <icedragon1> however, the gnome panel is still being used
[12:57] <h3sp4wn> icedragon1: You need to select session type kde
[12:58] <ironfroggy> is it possible for an individual user to configure some samba share to mount in their home directory?
[12:58] <h3sp4wn> icedragon1: (I have just tested it because my default session is e17
[12:58] <ironfroggy> or, even better, for me to configure that every user have their home share mounted for them?
[01:02] <Tommy2k4> the livecd installer says there was an error partitioning the drive but doesnt say what it was
[01:02] <ironfroggy> have you checked out the partition table yourself to see what state its in?
[01:02] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: did you by any chance choose an XFS filesystem for root?
[01:03] <Tommy2k4> i let it auto partition it for me
[01:03] <Tommy2k4> using largest continuous free space
[01:05] <unix_infidel> Tommy2k4: its better to just manually partition and setup mount points.
[01:05] <Tommy2k4> when i tried to manually partition this pc it wouldnt even work
[01:05] <Tommy2k4> at least 3 big bugs
[01:06] <unix_infidel> Tommy2k4:  many ubuntu users have never had that problem.
[01:06] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: Don't use the Live CD, use the alternate CD
[01:06] <Tommy2k4> im sure
[01:06] <Hawkwind> It's a known issue with the Live CD
[01:07] <Tommy2k4> k i guess
[01:08] <angasule> running programs with kdesu doesn't work (no error message in the console, I checked), I tried killing kdesud which usually fixes it, but no luck, what can I do, other than reboot?
[01:10] <SpAwN> how can i make the clock use standard time...instead of 24 hour clock
[01:11] <unix_infidel> SpAwN: man date
[01:11] <unix_infidel> SpAwN: or is this for the kde clock?
[01:11] <SpAwN> kde clock right now
[01:11] <unix_infidel> eg what kicker displays?
[01:11] <the_hammer> there we go trying ubuntu now mandriva sucked
[01:11] <SpAwN> im just using kde atm
[01:11] <unix_infidel> SpAwN: right click on the clock and click on date and time format.
[01:11] <unix_infidel> or just use kcontrol.
[01:12] <mistik1> Hello guys
[01:12] <Hawkwind> mistik1: Greetings
[01:12] <SpAwN> ungamed, do u know what i have to change to make it 12 hour...i dont know the formate
[01:12] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: We saw your nasty comments in #Mandriva where you broke the rules a few times
[01:12] <SpAwN> * unix_infidel
[01:12] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: man date will tell you that
[01:13] <Hawkwind> %I perhaps
[01:13] <mistik1> I just upgraded my brother's machine from kubuntu breezy to dapper and I noticed that the admin tool is gone
[01:13] <the_hammer> ahh well that os sucked and im not ashamed to say so
[01:13] <SpAwN> the_hammer, no mandriva is actualy quite good.
[01:13] <mistik1> Did they have a settings tool for dapper and if so what is the name of it so I can install the new tools
[01:13] <mistik1> hey Hawkwind
[01:13] <Distro^Junkie> Tunepimp (MusicBrainz tagging library) returned the following error: ".mp3 is not a supported filetype.". < ---- anyone getting an error like this in amarok when trying to tag files with musicbrainz ?
[01:13] <Hawkwind> mistik1: You mean like systemsettings ?
[01:13] <unix_infidel> SpAwN: if you wanna go gui(not recommended) you do right click on clock>time& dates>timeformat: to pH:MM:SS:AMPM
[01:13] <mistik1> yes
[01:13] <the_hammer> wouldnt let me updat with out paying them
[01:14] <the_hammer> update even
[01:14] <mistik1> When systemsettings is clicked from the menu it comes up blank
[01:14] <SpAwN> unix_infidel, ahh k thanks........i was kinda confusd on how to change the formate
[01:14] <mistik1> I did a sources.list style upgrade btw
[01:15] <SpAwN> brb gotta log out for it toake affect
[01:15] <Hawkwind> mistik1: Strange.  Have you tried making sure systemsettings is installed ?
[01:15] <mistik1> Hawkwind: I did not even know what the cli name for it was
[01:16] <the_hammer> i dont think anyone would say here that mandriva is better then ubuntu and/or kubuntu lol
[01:16] <the_hammer> if it is then ya all would have it and not whatcha got
[01:16] <Hawkwind> mistik1: systemsettings and the package name is kde-systemsettings
[01:16] <the_hammer> :)
[01:16] <LjL> the_hammer: i would hardly say that any decently-known linux distribution is "better" than another in absolute terms, no.
[01:16] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: I run both actually.  I also happen to run http://SeerOfSouls.com/ which is the largest 3rd party rpm repository for Mandriva.  My site gets almost 2 million hits a month
[01:17] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: Plus I was an op of #Mandrake/#Mandriva for over 3 years
[01:17] <the_hammer> interesting
[01:17] <mistik1> Hawkwind: thanks
[01:17] <Hawkwind> I'm still listed as the alternate contact, and the bot in the channel runs from my server :)
[01:17] <Hawkwind> mistik1: No problems
[01:17] <angasule> help :( kdesu doesn't work, how do I restart/what do I kill it?
[01:18] <the_hammer> i have a whole collection of linux here i got xandros desktop and deluxe versions and ultima 8.1
[01:18] <the_hammer> fedroacore 5
[01:19] <unix_infidel> cause / calling...
[01:19] <the_hammer> ubuntu kubuntu mandriva 2006 suse 10.1
[01:19] <the_hammer> debian
[01:19] <the_hammer> back track knoppix
[01:19] <mistik1> Hawkwind: It says its already at the latest version
[01:20] <Hawkwind> mistik1: Run it from CLI and see what happens
[01:20] <the_hammer> still cant find 1 that im 100 % happy with
[01:20] <the_hammer> i like ubuntu and kubuntu
[01:20] <unix_infidel> heh, try BSD then :)
[01:20] <unix_infidel> LOL
[01:20] <SpAwN> unix_infidel, hehe.....
[01:20] <the_hammer> hard part is finding one that likes my vidcard
[01:21] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Ohhh  ??
[01:21] <SpAwN> the_hammer, buy a nvidia vid card if u are gonna use linux
[01:21] <SpAwN> a cheap ass nvidia card is way better then a expensive ati on linux
[01:21] <test> Hiya room1
[01:21] <the_hammer> lol ya so im finding out
[01:22] <the_hammer> debian doesnt like my ethernet card
[01:22] <the_hammer> brb comoany
[01:22] <the_hammer> company*
[01:22] <mistik1> Hawkwind: we ran it from cli as user and its blank, ran it sudo systemsettings and it comes up now
[01:22] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I didn't know you ran Mandriva/Mandrake.  Must be referring to the one on the Club forums ?
[01:22] <abattoir> Hawkwind: yes, i was still a bit new, but it was about his 'bleeding edge' packages, at a forum
[01:22] <mistik1> I guess I'll just edit the menu option and make it use kdesu
[01:22] <Hawkwind> mistik1: Hmmmm, could be a conf file that is messing up from the upgrade or something
[01:23] <abattoir> Hawkwind: Mandriva is what made me use Linux primarily, but I was hungry for the latest packages...
[01:23] <abattoir> so switched to Kubuntu
[01:24] <abattoir> still have fond memories though :)
[01:24] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Ahh.  That was/is the goal of my SoS site.  I keep that thing heavily populated with the latest and greatest.  Hence why I get so many hits to it each month
[01:25] <Hawkwind> abattoir: There are many here in this channel that know me from Mandriva and that used to or still use my SoS site
[01:25] <abattoir> Hawkwind: i'm not sure if it was around then, thac's packages were only source, so i used them, even if that meant hundreds of crashes :P
[01:25] <Hawkwind> I'm hoping to expand it and start hosting some deb packages.  I did build xchat-2.6.6 which was just released yesterday and put it up there
[01:25] <Tommy2k4> shouldnt something happen when i right click on the pager applet and go open pager
[01:25] <Tommy2k4> launch pager*
[01:26] <the_hammer> sure is fun fartin around with linux anyways
[01:26] <abattoir> Hawkwind: cool :) .
[01:26] <the_hammer> its like ice cream so many different tastes and flavours
[01:27] <test> the_hammer: Still wanting to kick your pc?
[01:27] <the_hammer> lol naaa im ok now
[01:27] <abattoir> the_hammer: what happened to your bot? :P
[01:27] <abattoir> managed to get eggdrop to work?
[01:27] <test> the_hammer: Get your answers did ya?
[01:28] <the_hammer> someone showed me a site lastnight that someone else couldnt get the bot working on ubuntu
[01:28] <test> yay!
[01:28] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: It works here. After you left last night I set one up in about 5 - 7 minutes
[01:29] <the_hammer> i dont even think it was installed right cuz 1 i had i moved from desktop to usr folder
[01:29] <the_hammer> and im thinkin thats why i had probs
[01:30] <the_hammer> i give up for now ill take another whack at it 1 day
[01:31] <the_hammer> not really giving up just takin a break
[01:32] <Tommy2k4> can i get a cpu/ram/other stuff usage graphs in kicker
[01:32] <Tommy2k4> like i could in xfce
[01:33] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: gkrellm
[01:33] <Pyro> There is an applet you can add in the taskbar called "System Monitor" I think
[01:33] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: there is a kicker Applet... let me look it up
[01:33] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: system guard applet
[01:34] <Pyro> ^That's it
[01:34] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: or you could try superkaramba(though it doesnt go into the kicker)
[01:34] <Tommy2k4> found it
[01:34] <the_hammer> the installer thing is kinda a differenet in kubuntu eh
[01:34] <abattoir> the_hammer: adept?
[01:35] <iSDAGE> hey, how do I get programs to runon startup in Kubuntu?
[01:35] <Tommy2k4> damn its ugly
[01:35] <the_hammer> the one in ubuntu was catagorued
[01:35] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: try superkaramba
[01:35] <abattoir> !superkaramba
[01:35] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[01:36] <abattoir> i warn you, it *might* munch your CPU mercilessly if you have a slow/old system
[01:36] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: If you are referring to gkrellm being ugly, it's very themeable
[01:36] <the_hammer> Sysinfo for 'AMD64': Linux 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon643200+ at 1005 MHz (2011 bogomips), , RAM: 465/500MB, 96 proc's, 50.35min up
[01:36] <the_hammer> :)
[01:37] <Tommy2k4> no i meant system guard applet
[01:37] <abattoir> Hawkwind: i think he means the kicker applet, it *does* look ugly, ugh :=\
[01:37] <the_hammer> ya the adept is terrible looking
[01:37] <the_hammer> didnt realize that was the name of it till i clicked on it again
[01:37] <the_hammer> lol
[01:38] <Pyro_MX> Mmm... removed the screens in the sysguard applet instead of removing the applet itself..
[01:38] <abattoir> the_hammer: if i may ask, is it the list of packages that is 'intimidating' ?
[01:38] <Pyro_MX> Now I cannot get the monitor back lol
[01:38] <abattoir> the_hammer: it would be useful if you could tell what you dont like exactly :)
[01:38] <the_hammer> kinda i miss the way ubuntu's is
[01:38] <abattoir> the_hammer: synaptic?
[01:38] <the_hammer> ya
[01:38] <the_hammer> i like the style of that better
[01:39] <the_hammer> all nicely in order,etc
[01:39] <Pyro_MX> Synaptic can be installed in Kubuntu
[01:39] <abattoir> the_hammer: you could still use it if you wat
[01:39] <the_hammer> easyer to pick n choose
[01:39] <abattoir> *want
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> interactive aptitude install best
[01:39] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: sudo apt-get install synaptic  and you'll be happy :P
[01:39] <the_hammer> cool ok ty ill try that
[01:39] <h3sp4wn>  /s/install/is
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> With aptitude you can even play minesweeper
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> If the dependancy's are in a total mess
[01:40] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: really? an easter egg?
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: Its just in the menu
[01:40] <SaGE> hey, how do you get programs to run on startup in Kubuntu?
[01:40] <ryanakca> why is it that since the recent upgrade, I can't hold backspace key and have it erase a line... I have to hit it numerous times and erase caracter by caracter... same thing with the arrows... I need to hit numerous times... scroll lock light doesn't work either...
[01:40] <mistik1> abattoir; How those the theme progrm look?
[01:40] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: heh, ok, cool
[01:40] <the_hammer> there was a game i think in mandriva i liked but when i installed it lastnight i couldnt find it...has a little arrow and ya have to shoot balls down
[01:41] <abattoir> mistik1: ???
[01:41] <ryanakca> this is only in Xorg, not in tty1/tty2/tty*
[01:41] <abattoir> mistik1: superkaramba?
[01:41] <Pyro_MX> Well, if you let the programs you want to open on startup run when you shutdown, they should get back in your next login.
[01:41] <mistik1> yes
[01:41] <SaGE> yeah, that doesn't work for all of them
[01:41] <Tommy2k4> SaGE, copy .desktop files to ~/.kde/Autoruns
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: aptitude -v -v -v -v -v moo (thats the easter egg)
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: apt-get moo (is as you know the supercow powers)
[01:42] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: thanks, i'll check it out
[01:42] <abattoir> aah, yes, that i've heard and seen :)
[01:43] <Tommy2k4> sorry SaGE its ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:43] <abattoir> mistik1: there are thousands of themes which show everything from sysinf/weather to your mail, you can also control music players etc...
[01:43] <abattoir> mistik1: checkout http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38 for themes
[01:43] <abattoir> mistik1: superkaramba is in universe
[01:43] <Pyro_MX> I was wondering... is there an art team entirely dedicated to Kubuntu? Because I just found stuff about the Ubuntu art team.
[01:43] <mistik1> thank you abattoir
[01:43] <abattoir> mistik1: so 'sudo apt-get install superkaramba' if you have it enabled
[01:44] <mistik1> already don thanks
[01:44] <Tommy2k4> yep worked for me
[01:44] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: afaik, only one person :(
[01:44] <Hawkwind> mistik1: You running Kubuntu yourself now, or just doing this for someone ?
[01:44] <the_hammer> wow lots more games in kubuntu eh
[01:44] <Pyro_MX> Oh..
[01:44] <the_hammer> holy cow gettin them all
[01:45] <the_hammer> my fav game is tetris
[01:45] <the_hammer> play that game for ever heh
[01:45] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: but he is already coming up w/ awesome stuff for edgy... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas
[01:45] <the_hammer> ty for tellin me the update thing
[01:45] <Pyro_MX> Okay
[01:46] <Pyro_MX> Um hey abattoir how do you send PMs?
[01:46] <SaGE> Thanks Tommy
[01:46] <abattoir>  /msg nick
[01:46] <Pyro_MX> thx
[01:46] <abattoir> where nick is the nick of the person :P
[01:46] <Pyro_MX> lol I figured it out lol
[01:46] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: you'd like to work on Kubuntu artwork?
[01:46] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: i was just guessing there :P
[01:46] <the_hammer> or right click on nicks and select open query
[01:47] <Hawkwind> Or /query <nick> which will open a new tab with that user, then type your message in that tab :)
[01:47] <Pyro_MX> I cant... I'm not registered and cannot open private messages windows
[01:47] <Tommy2k4> !register
[01:47] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:47] <Pyro_MX> !register
[01:47] <Pyro_MX> zoinks
[01:48] <Pyro_MX> well I'm just here for a little time
[01:48] <Pyro_MX> Yea well abattoir, i wanted to show something to the art team
[01:49] <Tommy2k4> what if u get addicted and start coming here every day
[01:49] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: i think the page i gave you is for incoming stuff, but i'm not sure if everybody can put stuff in(even though someone else has)...
[01:49] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: Then he'd just be like the rest of us :)
[01:49] <Tommy2k4> lol
[01:49] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: you can try contacting kwwii, he is the Kubuntu/KDE artwork god :P
[01:50] <Pyro_MX> How can I contact him?
[01:50] <Tommy2k4> do you all have your irc client open up when you login
[01:50] <abattoir> he hangs out @ #kubuntu-devel
[01:50] <Pyro_MX> Hmhm..
[01:50] <Pyro_MX> Well... just doing theme concept
[01:50] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: My IRC client rarely ever closes
[01:50] <abattoir> i dont think he is there right now
[01:50] <Hawkwind> Heh
[01:51] <Tommy2k4> same unless reboot
[01:51] <Hawkwind> Surely kwwii's email can be found on launchpad or on his wiki page
[01:51] <Tommy2k4> is slickbar for superkaramba like a replacement for kicker
[01:51] <Pyro_MX> does he hangs out in the ubuntu forums?
[01:51] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: Though I have a nick running in screen in irssi from my server that never goes away
[01:52] <abattoir> Pyro_MX: not afaik
[01:52] <abattoir> https://launchpad.net/people/kwwii
[01:52] <Pyro_MX> Thanks, I'll check this..
[01:52] <abattoir> well, he hasnt listed his email...
[01:53] <Pyro_MX> Ah it's okay
[01:53] <Hawkwind> There are 3 emails on that page for him too
[01:53] <abattoir> Hawkwind: there are? i probably cant see because i'm not logged in.
[01:53] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Yeah on the lower left.  I guess I'm logged in is why I see them
[01:54] <abattoir> Hawkwind: indeed, i wasnt logged in :)
[01:54] <Hawkwind> nixternal: !!!!
[01:55] <Hawkwind> Heh
[01:55] <Hawkwind> Didn't I just see you somewhere
[01:56] <nixternal_> hehe ya
[01:57] <the_hammer> ahhh so thats what everyone was talking bout yesterday about kate
[01:57] <the_hammer> lol
[01:58] <cpk2> anyone know what telinit to do to close xserver and go to console?
[01:58] <Hawkwind> cpk2: telinit3
[01:58] <Hawkwind> telinit5 to get back to X
[02:00] <cpk2> telinit 3 doesnt do anything
[02:00] <cpk2> runlevel is 3 2 now
[02:01] <the_hammer> whats this bluechat about
[02:01] <the_hammer> seen it a few times never tried it tho whats it all about
[02:03] <Pyro_MX> Seems kwii isnt logged - is there a place where I can just pitch a design idea?
[02:05] <Hawkwind> Pyro_MX: Email him
[02:05] <Pyro_MX> M'kay
[02:07] <Pyro_MX> Havent got his email - ill to find it out
[02:08] <Tommy2k4> gah cant get superkaramba working
[02:08] <Tommy2k4> and now theres a dumb thing in the top left showing just 1 tray icon
[02:08] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: what exactly is the problem?
[02:08] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: you cant get a theme to work?
[02:08] <Tommy2k4> i tried to load a theme
[02:09] <Tommy2k4> slickbar
[02:09] <Tommy2k4> then superkaramba crashed
[02:09] <Tommy2k4> and its showing 1 tray icon in the top left o_o
[02:09] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: that's more of a problem w/ the theme rather than superkaramba ;)
[02:10] <Tommy2k4> probably
[02:10] <Tommy2k4> how do i get rid of it
[02:10] <the_hammer> kick it
[02:10] <abattoir> Rt. click on the theme->Close theme
[02:10] <Tommy2k4> but theres not a theme as such
[02:10] <Tommy2k4> just 1 tray icon, and when i right click it the context menu for that icon comes up
[02:11] <Tommy2k4> superkaramba shows as no themes open
[02:11] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: i guess the theme messed the panels up...
[02:12] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: i'm not familiar w/ the theme... could have used dcop to do something
[02:13] <Tommy2k4> i reloaded the theme and it works now but that dumb tray icon is still covering it
[02:13] <abattoir> Tommy2k4: tray icon for which app?
[02:13] <Tommy2k4> kopete
[02:13] <Tommy2k4> if i close kopete it will change to the next tray icon
[02:14] <dive-o> for some reason, the arrow keys in firefox have stopped behaving the way they used to - for example, if I click on an empty area of the page, I can scroll up/down with the arrow keys. now, there is always a cursor in the browser window, and the arrow keys move that around, like it's in some weird edit mode. any ideas?
[02:14] <Tommy2k4> f7 (total guess)
[02:14] <Tommy2k4> ages since i used firefox
[02:14] <dive-o> wow
[02:15] <dive-o> Tommy2k4: totally accurate guess
[02:15] <Tommy2k4> :D
[02:15] <dive-o> must've done it when trying to hit ctrl-f7 or something, thanks :)
[02:27] <ojin> hey tommy... if you're still around... if you download any karamba themes, is there a place to store them or do you just make your own?
[02:29] <Tommy2k4> make your own i guess
[02:29] <Tommy2k4> trying to get slickbar to work properly
[02:33] <Tommy2k4> cba with it
[02:36] <joe74> What do I do to update kubuntu 5.10 to kubuntu 6.06
[02:38] <selina> Hola
[02:38] <selina> algun chileno
[02:38] <the_hammer> whats a good mp3 player for kubuntu
[02:38] <test> selina: hiya
[02:38] <the_hammer> all the ones i got wont play
[02:39] <joe74> hola selina yo soy de mexico
[02:39] <test> !restrictedformats
[02:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:39] <joe74> try amarok for mp3 or xmms
[02:39] <whataboutbob> xmms is good
[02:39] <the_hammer> none are working
[02:39] <joe74> I like amarok because it autolovevls volume in all mp3's
[02:39] <whataboutbob> oh cool did not know that
[02:39] <joe74> but xmms is good also, similar to winamp
[02:40] <test> the_hammer: did you put in the codec?
[02:40] <the_hammer> not sure
[02:40] <the_hammer> what codec i need
[02:40] <test> check the link above
[02:40] <ironfroggy> with qtparted, what is the significance of the "active" partition?
[02:40] <joe74> yeah for amarok you will need to download special codecs, it wont play mp3 right out of the box
[02:40] <test> tells you how to get mp3 and everything working
[02:41] <selina> Camx Cam
[02:41] <joe74> any of you know what command to run to upgrade from kubuntu 5.10 to kubuntu 6.06
[02:41] <BKaj> ok, got synaptic e=working as root by using as kdesu synaptic in the run cmd , but it's srill not in the k-menu
[02:42] <test> isnt is dist-upgrade?
[02:42] <joe74> im not sure
[02:42] <ironfroggy> or what the "busy" status of the drive means (there is no hdd activity)
[02:42] <joe74> maybe sudo apt-get install screw up my pc?
[02:42] <test> i think it is dist-upgrade or something like that
[02:43] <lmvaz> joe74: you have to change the repository entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:43] <joe74> kk, ill keep checking around
[02:43] <stodge> So does printing to a Samba printer work in Kubuntu Dapper?
[02:43] <test> i dont think apt get install will mess up your computerr
[02:43] <the_hammer> getting 41 codec files now lol
[02:43] <joe74> oh
[02:43] <the_hammer> somethings gotta give
[02:43] <lmvaz> then after apt-get update to update your local base
[02:43] <the_hammer> need  my darn tuneage
[02:43] <lmvaz> and finally apt-get dist upgrade
[02:43] <joe74> no actually this is the most decent linux I have seen
[02:43] <joe74> ok
[02:43] <test> i was right hehehhe
[02:44] <joe74> thanks lmvaz and test
[02:44] <BKaj> joe74: agreed
[02:44] <test> okay if i change just the icon for my cd drive it will NOT keep it from mounting right?
[02:44] <lmvaz> :)
[02:44] <BKaj> how do write synaptic to the k-menu ?
[02:45] <joe74> no, icons are independent from that
[02:45] <BKaj> gotta use run cmd and kdesu to run it as root
[02:45] <Tommy2k4> gah gkrellm is ugly
[02:45] <test> okay cause one time i changed it and it just would not mount no matter what. i think i changed something else then
[02:46] <joe74> BKaj : you mean add synaptic to your k-maenu?
[02:47] <BKaj> yeah joe74
[02:47] <the_hammer> gettin 146 media files 1 of these dam things gotta work lol
[02:48] <joe74> go to system settings>panel>menus>edit Kmenu
[02:48] <whataboutbob> anyone use kubuntu on tablet pc?
[02:49] <whataboutbob> if so HELP :(
[02:49] <unix_infidel> heh, kubuntu isnt ready for the tablet PC :P
[02:49] <gemidjy_> how do I make a certain folder a repository for apt-get ?
[02:49] <joe74> there you add any program and icon, make sure to write the command for that program
[02:49] <Kr4t05> whataboutbob, good luck with that...
[02:49] <whataboutbob> lol it's actually a tablet / laptop
[02:49] <whataboutbob> everything but the pen works great
[02:51] <test> after linux works with them that is.
[02:51] <whataboutbob> lol i agree test
[02:51] <Kr4t05> This is what I dislike...
[02:52] <test> i really have no interest in this miholada thingy everyone keeps talking about
[02:52] <whataboutbob> I figured there would be some package by now for the tablet had a sharp zaurus for 3 years now it works
[02:53] <ironfroggy> is it even possible to resize an ext3 partition?
[02:53] <test> okay heres a question... how can i move my home directory to another partition after i have installed dapper drake?
[02:54] <test> then i have a server question.....
[02:55] <Kr4t05> Just because Linux exhist does not make it the solution to life's problems. Windows is a decent OS in it's own right and has it's place. Just because Linux works doesn't make it the best option.
[02:55] <Kr4t05> Done my rant.
[02:56] <whataboutbob> linux rules windows drooles (my 2 cents)
[02:56] <Kr4t05> whataboutbob, what's wrong with it?
[02:56] <ironfroggy> whataboutbob: havent done it myself, but my boss actually runs kubuntu on a tablet pc, so its not undoable.
[02:56] <Kr4t05> (For the record, I'm not being a fanboy, I'm just supporting my point)
[02:56] <test> linux is THE BEST. Better be careful I might be called a zealot.
[02:56] <whataboutbob> kewl thanks ironfroggy
[02:57] <Kr4t05> test, what makes Linux better than any other OS that exhists? I'm merely asking, and not flaming.
[02:57] <jimmy__> I have a question folks
[02:57] <whataboutbob> at least if I know someone else has done it I will press onward
[02:57] <jimmy__> wireless networking question for my dell 1100 laptop
[02:58] <Kr4t05> !tell jimmy__ about ndiswrapper
[02:58] <jimmy__> using truemobile 1300 card
[02:58] <test> Kr4t05: Well let's see: Cost effectiveness, stability, customizabilty, awesome support and a sense of having choice. But it's the only os ive used too, so i think I am a bit biased
[02:58] <ironfroggy> but you know it will become a flame. saying "windows is great" in a linux irc channel is like yelling fire in a crowded theatre, and then waiting outside with the dead bodies of everyone in the theatre's grandmothers. either way you'll be pummeled equally.
[02:59] <jimmy__> Kr4t05: ndiswrapper?
[02:59] <whataboutbob> good one ironfroggy
[02:59] <Kr4t05> test, with proper configuration, and some common-sense, Windows is an acceptable OS.
[02:59] <whataboutbob> acceptable yes
[02:59] <ironfroggy> test: if you choose windows, you still have a choice.
[03:00] <Kr4t05> ironfroggy, I'm not saying that "Windows is great" I'm merely saying that neither are the answer to world hunger. ;)
[03:00] <test> Kr4t05: As i said my opinion is somewhat biased
[03:00] <jimmy__> can anyone help me with my wireless network?
[03:00] <Kr4t05> !wireless
[03:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:01] <ironfroggy> not to repeat myself, but is it possible to resize an ext3 partition? i dont see any resizing utilities for it on the liveCD
[03:01] <jimmy__> thank you
[03:01] <Kr4t05> ironfroggy, qtparted?
[03:01] <Kr4t05> ironfroggy, I think that's it.
[03:02] <test> ironfroggy: from what i hear having no experience with it it isnt really a choice after you get into it.
[03:03] <Kr4t05> I mean, as a Desktop system, Windows works out of the box, without 2 hours of terminal-gazing.
[03:03] <test> Kr4t05: Sounds to easy.
[03:03] <whataboutbob> so does kubuntu
[03:03] <ironfroggy> test: if you choose to use windows, how do you not have a choice? what choice you have doesnt change depending on what choice you make.
[03:03] <Kr4t05> Don't get me wrong, I love being able to make my windows wobble with XGL/Compiz
[03:03] <ironfroggy> Kr4t05: it wont let me resize the ext3 partition, even tho it says it can be resized to the left so many blocks.
[03:04] <ironfroggy> Kr4t05: so get Vista :-)
[03:04] <test> Ironfroggy: Proprietary stuff was never my thing I guess.
[03:04] <Kr4t05> whataboutbob, I spend two hours making TwinView work, installing my "restricted" codecs, and updating my apt sources. Windows, I get it in, and run WinUpdate.
[03:05] <Kr4t05> I mean, Linux rocks at somethings.
[03:05] <ironfroggy> test: do you read the source code to all the 'free' apps you use?
[03:05] <Kr4t05> As a server? Hell yeah. As a gaming system? Not anytime soon.
[03:06] <Kr4t05> If we see a trend in developers making more games for Linux, I would be more optimistic.
[03:06] <Kr4t05> But, at the moment, I only have two commercial games that run natively on Linux.
[03:06] <test> ironfroggy: Some of them why?
[03:07] <Kr4t05> ironfroggy, as for getting Vista, not anytime soon.
[03:07] <ironfroggy> test: because 99% of linux users dont. so whats the point? not that i dont love the option, but people so often list reasons to use linux which arent real reasons, becuase they never excersize them.
[03:07] <ironfroggy> Kr4t05: well, not until its out. or you download that beta.
[03:07] <Kr4t05> ironfroggy, it's still in beta, meaning I'd spend about 2 days patching holes.
[03:08] <Kr4t05> And, if you use that argument against me, I'll have one for you.
[03:08] <abattoir> ironfroggy: just because you like 'free' software does not mean you should read the source code, or even understand it...
[03:09] <ironfroggy> abattoir: so tell me, then, what is the point?
[03:09] <test> ironfroggy: A point well taken, but as i said having almost zero exp with the othe one and only going on what i have heard/read i form an opinion. Choice is a good thing however no arguing that. I aslo think that an informed choice is better than some other types.
[03:09] <abattoir> its about the flexibility... some people are idealistic too
[03:09] <ironfroggy> im just playing devil's advocate, i understand the virtues of 'free' software, i just think that many of them are less valuable less often then most people will admit.
[03:10] <ironfroggy> abattoir: whats more flexable if you arent looking at any code?
[03:10] <abattoir> ironfroggy: for me, open source software are continuously refined, being the best that they can be...
[03:10] <ironfroggy> sounds like you arent comparing the freedom of the software, but the software itself.
[03:10] <ironfroggy> anyway, im off to find out how to resize this ext3 partition.
[03:11] <abattoir> ironfroggy: well, come back when you are done, we'll have a nice discussion on #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:11] <abattoir> ironfroggy: you want to expand it or shrink it?
[03:11] <test> is the other guy really that much better?
[03:12] <BKaj> well I managed to put synaptic in the k-menu but it still won
[03:12] <BKaj> won't launch
[03:14] <james_> when i click on some video streams on this laptop, like videos on Yahoo, for example, the box where there video should play just says "no picture". i used to be able to play these videos, but now i can't for some reason. i do have mplayer and plugins installed. any suggestions?
[03:14] <distanceisdeath> Kubuntu cannot mount the root file system on start up.  any ideas?
[03:14] <fiyawerx> hey guys, anyone ever get "xine was unable to initialize any audio devices"
[03:14] <test> james_: I have that problem too. what browser?
[03:14] <fiyawerx> it was working fine before until i plugged in my usb headset
[03:15] <james_> test: firefox
[03:15] <fiyawerx> and now amarok keeps giving that error (even after removal/reboot
[03:15] <test> james_: I had that problem in firefox but not in konquerer. interseting.
[03:15] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Is there a way to book-style printing with Kprint?
[03:16] <james_> test: i think this started after i installed the updates yesterday
[03:16] <james_> test
[03:16] <test> james_: I have had too many problems with the updates too.
[03:16] <james_> test: i have never tried to play videos in konqueror, never figured they would work.. i'll try that
[03:17] <test> james_: Work fine in konquerer for me.
[03:17] <distanceisdeath> why can't ubuntu/kubuntu start up for me?  it has een off for a week, and now it wont start up
[03:18] <test> james_: if it dosn't work in konqueror with mplayer try with xine and see if it does any better....
[03:19] <james_> test: yeah. they do not work in konqueror at all
[03:20] <test> james_: that was my advice.
[03:20] <test> james_: like i said it works for me.
[03:21] <james_> test: how would i get it to switch to xine? could i switch to xine in firefox as well? i hate mplayer
[03:21] <test> james_: search for plugin in synaptic
[03:21] <james_> k
[03:22] <test> james_: I'm pretty sure there is a xine plugin for firefox
[03:22] <james_> streaming content in linux is really improving... but still sucks badly
[03:23] <test> james_: after codecs and plugins it normally works okay.
[03:23] <test> james_: at least in my experience.
[03:23] <james_> test: it only works ok on some things... i have all the codecs, plugins, etc... and many streams do not work
[03:24] <Tommy2k4> ack dead moth splattered across my monitor
[03:24] <test> james_: I stream milohula files, real, aol music and etc....
[03:24] <distanceisdeath> have fun tommy
[03:25] <test> Tommy2k4: ewwwww
[03:25] <billykan> ...
[03:25] <james_> test: i get rhapsody and yahoo (usually) to work... but a lot of other things dont....
[03:26] <billykan>  ???
[03:26] <test> james_: however anything that needs activex or drm will not work at all i dont think.
[03:26] <james_> test: correct, and i don't care about that
[03:26] <test> in2tv being a great example.
[03:27] <abattoir> billykan: unfortunately there is not korean (k)ubuntu channel that i can point you to.... so please speak english
[03:27] <the_hammer> lol billy ya writting foren words
[03:27] <test> I think korean
[03:27] <james_> test: can you play the video on democracy now's website, out of curiosity?
[03:27] <test> james_:  give me the website and ill try it
[03:27] <the_hammer> well im in good shape got my tunes workin
[03:27] <nrdb> Hi I have just installed kubuntu on a new partition, I had to use the kernel argument "acpi=on" to get it to boot, I have an problem, every few seconds the mouse pointer freezes for a fraction of a second :(, does anyone know why?
[03:28] <test> the_hammer: YAY!
[03:28] <nrdb> oops :( that "acpi=no"
[03:28] <james_> test: http://democracynow.org/
[03:28] <the_hammer> cant have eggdrops on kubuntu eh
[03:28] <test> james_: just a sec
[03:28] <the_hammer> haha tried and cant be found
[03:29] <abattoir> ugh, i was wrong, there is a korean ubuntu channel :(
[03:29] <abattoir> !ko
[03:29] <ubotu> For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko
[03:30] <abattoir> might be worth knowing which language *doesnt* have a support channel
[03:30] <test> james_: where on the page is the video in question?
[03:30] <james_> test: xine is playing yahoo video for me, although the color is really screwed up
[03:31] <test> james_: try adjusting the settings for video...
[03:31] <the_hammer> hey test is it possible to run an egg on kubuntu?
[03:31] <james_> test: just click at the top of the [age
[03:31] <james_> page*
[03:31] <test> abattoir: inuit isn't supported in a channel I don't think.
[03:32] <james_> under the "war and peace report"
[03:32] <abattoir> test: yes, so that's one... ;)
[03:32] <abattoir> test: well, you could say 'amarok amarok' to them :P
[03:33] <abattoir> ok, i'm thinking of corny stuff... sorry
[03:33] <test> abattoir: hehehe
[03:34] <abattoir> test: ok, this is more lame, and i know it(they'd call me the boy who cried 'wolf wolf') ;)
[03:34] <the_hammer> test?
[03:34] <b0nn> hi all, I goofed my adept_notifier up yesterday and nfi how to fix it, it *used* to check for updates just after boot time, and left an icon on my panel, but now its gone, where do I start?
[03:34] <test> james_: it needs real player to play at least video
[03:34] <test> abattoir: hehehe
[03:35] <james_> test: i have democracy now working for the first time ever.... but again, color messed up
[03:35] <the_hammer> is it possible to have an eggdrop on kubuntu?
[03:35] <test> james_: There's a little progress
[03:36] <the_hammer> thinking ill take another whack at it in a bit
[03:36] <the_hammer> tell me what to grab and ill grab it
[03:36] <test> james_: Can you adjust the color and brightness settings and fix the problem?
[03:36] <the_hammer> lol
[03:36] <james_> test: not so far.... i am looking for a way to adjust all of that
[03:37] <test> james_: I know there is a gnome interface to xine so i am assuming there is a kde one where you would be able to do that
[03:38] <james_> test: i'll try to check for that
[03:38] <the_hammer> ill try my luck later on gotta jet for a bit here
[03:38] <james_> thanks for the help
[03:38] <the_hammer> bbs
[03:38] <terror> hey
[03:38] <test> james_: no troubles
[03:38] <test> terror: hiya
[03:39] <nrdb> I am having trouble with the mouse pointer :( it is jerky.  Every few seconds in halts for a fraction of a second :( can anyone help?
[03:53] <CVirus> whats the difference between the alternate CD and the desktop CD ?
[03:53] <CVirus> The Desktop CD runs a live desktop directly from the CD and can install to your hard disk. The Alternate CD includes a text based installer for low memory, LVM or RAID installs.
[03:53] <CVirus> got it
[03:53] <CVirus> thanks
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan>  Alternate CD has text based installer, Desktop CD is a liveCD with the Ubiquity installer.
[03:53] <Hawkwind> desktop is the Live CD, alternate is the full installer
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, good job. :)
[03:53] <CVirus> hehe
[03:56] <cri6> firs time on irc!
[03:56] <Hawkwind> Don't ever admit that in public :P
[03:56] <cri6> I know, nevermind. thanks for the edvise
[03:57] <cri6> how can I change the boot sequence in kubuntu 6.06, please?
[03:58] <Tommy2k4> kubuntu crashed again
[03:58] <Hawkwind> cri6: What do you mean by the boot sequence ?  As in harddrive or CD-Rom ?
[03:58] <cri6> i mean OS sequenca...
[03:59] <Tommy2k4> grub.list or something
[03:59] <Hawkwind> Edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> /etc/grub/menu.lst
[03:59] <Desh> Everytime I try to use the fglrx drivers my Xorg.0.log reports: [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOSPC", apparetnly an Mtrr error, ad nothing I do fixes this, I want to recompile my kernel w/o mtrr, how would I do this?
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> WHoops.../boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hawkwind got it right.
[03:59] <cri6> thanx you all!
[04:00] <cri6> I was used to suse's gui forthis
[04:00] <Tommy2k4> can anyone help me fix the problem i have on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204080
[04:00] <Hawkwind> Yummmmmm!  Thanks CheeseBurgerMan :P
[04:00] <Tommy2k4> i switched to 16bit and it still happens but much rarer
[04:01] <unix_infidel> that reminds me....
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> You need to eat?
[04:02] <unix_infidel> :P
[04:02] <Tommy2k4> i did 21km on the steppy machine thingy today :)
[04:02] <ironfroggy> im so impressed. kubuntu actually handles my laptop hardware better than windows xp did.
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: You need to verify the refresh rates for your monitor.  It's obvious they are wrong which is what is causing the problem
[04:02] <SpAwN> hello all im using ndiswrapper for my wireless....today it started droping the connection.....no matter what i do it wont reconnect(router still lets other wireless connection)...anyone have any kinda of ideas?
[04:03] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: You can find that info from the book that came with the monitor or on google by pulling up the make and model number
[04:05] <Tommy2k4> Hawkwind, definately correct
[04:05] <Tommy2k4> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/819et/en/spec/spec.htm#Resolution
[04:05] <Tommy2k4> Horizontal scan range	30 - 70 kHz (automatic) | Vertical scan range	50 - 160 Hz (automatic)
[04:06] <fiyawerx> anyone know if there's a way to get two sound devices working at once?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> fiyawerx: There is, but it's pretty complicated.  Why not by a sound card for $20 that supports multiple channels and allows you to hear more than one sound at a time
[04:08] <fiyawerx> Hawkwind: yeah, might just do that, well, has to be external tho
[04:09] <fiyawerx> Hawkwind: just was wondering if i could use my regular audio card for main output and logitech usb headset for cueing
[04:09] <fiyawerx> without spending anything :)
[04:09] <Tommy2k4> i thought that might be what you needed
[04:09] <nrdb> In a new install of kubuntu 6.06 I have a jerky mouse pointer :(  help please.
[04:10] <Tommy2k4> but a usb headset isnt really an audio device is it?
[04:10] <fiyawerx> well
[04:10] <fiyawerx> when i reboot
[04:10] <fiyawerx> kde sends sounds to my pc speakers
[04:10] <fiyawerx> and amarok plays to my usb headset
[04:10] <fiyawerx> so it's using them separately somehow
[04:10] <Tommy2k4> hm
[04:10] <fiyawerx> and it's listed in kmix as a separate device
[04:11] <fiyawerx> but some things work wierd or if i change anything it all comes crashing down lol
[04:11] <Tommy2k4> you using some dj software or just amarok?
[04:11] <fiyawerx> got mixxx to try out for now
[04:11] <fiyawerx> but anything lists my devices weird
[04:11] <fiyawerx> like, i know system makes my headset /dev/dsp1
[04:12] <fiyawerx> but amarok says its using dev/dsp and it still comes through the headset
[04:12] <fiyawerx> if i unplug my headset, dsp1 disappears
[04:12] <fiyawerx> like its all strange
[04:12] <fiyawerx> and i get alsa errors and whatnot, altho im not sure i ever used alsa on this
[04:12] <fiyawerx> i have to use oss, and i don't really know the difference :)
[04:12] <OOD> alsa is much more advanced
[04:13] <OOD> and supports software mixing and other usefull things
[04:13] <jimmy__> will the dell 3418 driver work with the 1300 (dell broadcom wireless card)
[04:13] <Tommy2k4> installing mixxx now :)
[04:13] <nrdb> In a new install of kubuntu 6.06 I have a jerky mouse pointer :(  help please.
[04:13] <Tommy2k4> even after reboot / unplug&replug mouse?
[04:14] <jimmy__> this noobie needs help with wireless networking
[04:14] <test> jimmy__: do you have a dell 1300 notebook or card?
[04:14] <Hawkwind> nrdb: Trying being a bit more detailed.  Maybe post your xorg.conf to pastebin.ca or tell us what you've done or haven't done
[04:14] <posthuman> I dont know alot of difference between OSS and ALSA..but OSS sounded really bad on my card when I tried desktopBSD
[04:14] <fiyawerx> OOD: i think ican use alsa until i plug my headset in
[04:14] <jimmy__> test: yes
[04:14] <fiyawerx> then it breaks
[04:14] <test> jimmy__: notebook or card?
[04:15] <jimmy__> test lol sorry, 1100 notebook, 1300 card
[04:15] <test> jimmy__: hmmm does it use broadcom 43xx chip?
[04:15] <nrdb> Hawkwind: when working off the livecd the mouse works just fine, so I copied the xorg.conf to the HDD and it is still jerky.  apart from that I don't know what to do.
[04:16] <Hawkwind> jimmy__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174  <~~Try reading this for broadcomm chipsets
[04:16] <Hawkwind> nrdb: Have you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg by chance ?
[04:17] <Hawkwind> nrdb: Usually going with the defaults usually works fine
[04:17] <Tommy2k4> mixxx wont even work for me :(
[04:17] <nrdb> Hawkwind: no, I will now
[04:17] <jimmy__> test : tying to check and see here
[04:17] <test> jimmy__: okay
[04:17] <unix_infidel> Tommy2k4: mixxx is terrible.
[04:17] <Tommy2k4> with OSS it says audio device could not be opened, with Jack it says sound api could not be initialized :(
[04:18] <unix_infidel> most any linux audio development stuff is nonsense.  Use OS X or windows if you're serious about producing and mixing audio.
[04:18] <Tommy2k4> you know of a good alternative?
[04:18] <jimmy__> test: I did lspci   <------   it would be listed here right?
[04:18] <fiyawerx> ah, i also have jack and a bunch of stuf
[04:18] <fiyawerx> unix_infidel: not necessarily true
[04:18] <test> jimmy__: it should be
[04:18] <Tommy2k4> im not serious i just wanna have a mess about with it
[04:18] <fiyawerx> its getting there
[04:18] <fiyawerx> for mixing anyway
[04:18] <unix_infidel> Tommy2k4: i'm not sure if mixxx uses oss but maybe try the alsaoss wrapper.
[04:19] <jimmy__> test: Linux user for almost 2 weeks (bare with me)
[04:19] <jimmy__> test:   :o)
[04:19] <test> jimmy__: okay its all good
[04:19] <unix_infidel> fiyawerx: for the most part unless your doing audio analysis linux isnt the best, its a good alternative, but i'm just saying i'm nota fan.
[04:19] <Tommy2k4> how would i do that
[04:19] <fiyawerx> i love amarok for management tho, hehe
[04:19] <unix_infidel> !alsa-oss
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about alsa-oss - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:19] <fiyawerx> wanted to get something worth mixing setup also
[04:19] <posthuman> I just love amarok
[04:19] <posthuman> tehehe
[04:19] <Tommy2k4> i found its aoss
[04:20] <fiyawerx> i mean just to play with, i really want to get serato scratch live
[04:20] <posthuman> !alsaoss
[04:20] <jimmy__> test:  BCM4306
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about alsaoss - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:20] <posthuman> ah no such lucl
[04:20] <jimmy__> test:  whaahoo
[04:20] <unix_infidel> Tommy2k4: apt-get the package and then run aoss mixxx
[04:20] <test> jimmy__:  hehe cool.
[04:20] <OOD> unix_infidel: only problem with linux is that all the good audio appds are either for Mac or Windows
[04:20] <Tommy2k4> oki
[04:20] <fiyawerx> but yeah that even runs best under a clean windows install
[04:20] <jimmy__> test:   now what ?
[04:20] <test> jimmy__: the broadcom 43xx are easy to install for the most part
[04:21] <unix_infidel> OOD: like i said, if you're serious about audio development, mixing, production
[04:21] <unix_infidel> use mac or win32
[04:21] <test> jimmy__: do you have your driver disk?
[04:21] <test> jimmy__: and have ndiswrapper-utils installed?
[04:22] <Tommy2k4> exactly the same errors using aoss
[04:22] <jimmy__> test: I have the disk on hand
[04:23] <jimmy__> test: and I have no idea about ndiswrapper thing
[04:23] <test> jimmy__: did you install ndiswrapper-utils. it's in synaptic
[04:24] <jimmy__> test: I just installed dapper thats it.
[04:25] <jimmy__> test:  fresh install
[04:25] <nrdb> I have a jerky mouse pointer, I have tried coping the xorg.conf file from the livecd, and dpkg-reconfigure, but it still isn't working properly.
[04:25] <test> jimmy__: do you have network on that machine?
[04:25] <test> jimmy__: i mean wired
[04:25] <jimmy__> test:  oh, no
[04:26] <jimmy__> test:  cable modem is the only wire
[04:26] <test> jimmy__: its okay put in your install disk and open synaptic when it asks
[04:26] <jimmy__> test:  wow, I didnt think it would work in linux
[04:26] <test> jimmy__: let e ask again: can you access the internet from the linux machine?
[04:27] <jimmy__> test: yes, I'm on the laptop now
[04:27] <test> open synaptic and search for ndiswrapper-utils
[04:28] <jimmy__> ok
[04:28] <test> jimmy__: then install it.
[04:29] <jimmy__> ok
[04:29] <test> after that copy the drivers on your driver disk to your linux machine
[04:30] <test> jimmy__: the network drivers
[04:31] <lmosher> I installed a .deb using dpkg and I want to remove it.. What do I need to do?
[04:31] <jimmy__> test: would you know off hand what extention the drivers are?
[04:32] <test> jimmy__: there are 2 of them an .inf and a .sys
[04:32] <jimmy__> .exe cant be used in linux right?
[04:32] <nrdb> lmosher: try "gpkg --remove <name>"
[04:32] <jimmy__> oh  ok
[04:32] <lmosher> nrdb: ok I thought it was something like that.. is it the deb name?
[04:33] <lmosher> or the package itself?
[04:33] <OOD> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:33] <test> jimmy__: they may start with a bcm or something like that
[04:33] <nrdb> lmosher: I think you want the package name
[04:33] <OOD> that'll remove the package
[04:34] <test> hiya admin :)
[04:34] <nrdb> I have a jerky mouse pointer, I have tried coping the xorg.conf file from the livecd, and dpkg-reconfigure, but it still isn't working properly.
[04:34] <unix_infidel> nrdb: man xset
[04:34] <unix_infidel> then search for m
[04:34] <unix_infidel> change the ratio
[04:35] <jimmy__> test:  there are two .sys files with bcm ..... get both?
[04:36] <test> jimmy__: are there two inf files or only one?
[04:36] <test> jimmy__: likely the inf and sys will have the same name
[04:36] <jimmy__> 1
[04:36] <jimmy__> ok
[04:37] <jimmy__> yes
[04:37] <jimmy__> got em
[04:37] <test> jimmy__: what is the name of the inf out of curiousity?
[04:37] <jimmy__> test: nfbcmwl5.i
[04:38] <nrdb> unix_infidel: isn't this what is controled by the settings in "K -> System settings -> Mouse -> Advanced"
[04:38] <jimmy__> test:  oops  .inf
[04:38] <unix_infidel> nrdb: fire up console and open up two tabs.
[04:38] <unix_infidel> in one tab type `man xset`
[04:38] <unix_infidel> and in the other type in xset m [stop right there and dont press enter] 
[04:38] <james_> test: since i installed the xine plugin for firefox, the color on ANY video i play, whether streaming or DVD, etc, is all really messed uo, do you have any suggestions? i see no way to adjust any of this
[04:38] <unix_infidel> THEN fire up $BROWSER and research the proper ratio.
[04:39] <test> james_: not off hand. ill check though
[04:39] <test> jimmy__: same as mine
[04:39] <unix_infidel> (note, this is not a permanent setting, you need to add this to a script or adapt it to xorg.conf.
[04:39] <test> jimmy__: should be simple to do
[04:39] <unix_infidel> )
[04:39] <test> jimmy__: open a terminal and go to the place here the drivers are
[04:40] <jimmy__> test: I have two windows open in konsole (good enough)?
[04:40] <nrdb> unix_infidel: I don't think these setting will affect my problem, as the mouse does move OK, but every few seconds it halts for about 1/4 of a second the jumps and work again for a few seconds.
[04:41] <unix_infidel> nrdb: is this an optical mouse or a traditional ball mouse?
[04:41] <test> jimmy__: you only need one konsole.
[04:41] <vinboy> Xorg is using 228mb of memory now.... it keep increasing from like 60mb yesterday
[04:41] <vinboy> is there a memory leak somewhere?
[04:41] <test> jimmy__: let me get my other laptop real quick and we can begin okay?
[04:42] <jimmy__> test: oh
[04:42] <nrdb> unix_infidel: it is an optical track ball, it work fine on the LiveCD and on my other install of kubuntu but not on this fresh install.
[04:42] <jimmy__> test: ok
[04:42] <unix_infidel> nrdb: that usually means it a X issue in which the settings have somehow changed.
[04:43] <unix_infidel> nrdb: like i said find the specific ratio that you desire for xset m
[04:43] <test> jimmy__: do you have the konsole open where the drivers are?
[04:43] <nrdb> unix_infidel: I tried coping the xorg.conf off the LiveCD and reconfiguring the xserver
[04:43] <test> james_: still checking for you....
[04:44] <unix_infidel> nrdb: like i said, it usually wont save mouse ratio settings.
[04:44] <james_> test: thanks
[04:44] <jimmy__> test: I copied the files to the hard drive and closed the window
[04:44] <unix_infidel> i promise, if you do as i say, your hand will stop throbbing after a few minutes.
[04:44] <test> jimmy__: open a konsole and cd to where the drivers were copied
[04:45] <jimmy__> test:  ok done ( they are on the desktop)
[04:46] <test> jimmy__: now type the following:
[04:47] <test> jimmy__: sudo ndiswrapper -i (inffilename).inf
[04:47] <test> james_: www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217063 try there for xine picture correcting.
[04:48] <james_> test: thank you very much, i will read that
[04:48] <test> jimmy__: so probably it will look like sudo ndiswrapper -i bcnwl5.inf
[04:48] <test> james_: you are welcome
[04:49] <test> jimmy__: the n should be an m
[04:50] <jimmy__> test: I get command not found
[04:50] <test> jimmy__: did you install ndiswraper-utils?
[04:50] <nrdb> unix_infidel: I have tried several setting, "xset m 4 8" works generally, but it still jerks every 3 seconds or so.
[04:50] <jimmy__> test: uhhhh
[04:50] <jimmy__> test: guess not
[04:51] <test> jimmy__: from synaptic? you can search them. install them and it should work.
[04:51] <jimmy__> test: can I go to add/remove programs?
[04:51] <test> jimmy__: i ave never tried it through add remove
[04:51] <test> jimmy__: you could also use adept
[04:51] <jimmy__> test:  ok
[04:52] <jimmy__> ina1
[04:52] <test> jimmy__: make sure you enable the extra repositories too
[04:53] <test> jimmy__: after it is installed let me know.......
[04:53] <jimmy__> test: under 'developement'?
[04:53] <lmosher> I'm trying to compile something in ubuntu (a very fresh install). I get the following error: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables. i just installed build-essentials and that didn't help.
[04:54] <test> does it say ndiswrapper-utils jimmy__?
[04:54] <test> jimmy__: does it say ndiswrapper-utils?
[04:55] <jimmy__> test: I get catagories
[04:55] <test> jimmy__: search for it
[04:55] <jimmy__> games, utilities, ...................   ok
[04:55] <test> It's there somewhere
[04:55] <test> if not we can do it probably through apt-get
[04:59] <maryham> Lynoure: how are you?
[04:59] <jimmy__> test: cant find it dude
[04:59] <maryham> I do not know if you remenber me but you tried to help me 2 days ago about my cdrom...
[04:59] <test> jimmy__: okay try this: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:00] <michael> Hey guys, having some issues with my X server. I just had a really strange hard crash, and when i managed to get back to kdm, my res is set to 640x480, which is very strange, because the only setting available in my xorg.conf is the native 1440x900 that my monitor runs at. Starting X manually and with different servers doesn't seem to help, either.
[05:01] <michael> And, manually specifying the config file doesn't do me any good.
[05:01] <test> jimmy__: you would type that in a konsole
[05:01] <maryham> I just want let you know I find the solution: I edit my Fstab file with pico and change the cdrom mount line!
[05:02] <jimmy__> test:  cool I think that did it
[05:02] <maryham> Thx again for the time you spent with me...
[05:02] <test> jimmy__: did it install?
[05:02] <jimmy__> test:  I think it did
[05:03] <test> jimmy__: okay open a konsole where the drivers are and type sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[05:03] <test> jimmy__: or hatever your inf file name is,
[05:05] <jimmy__> test: couldn't copy bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[05:06] <test> is your konsole open and are you in the desktop directory?
[05:08] <jimmy__> test: files are on my desktop
[05:09] <jimmy__> test: knosole is open
[05:09] <test> open the konsole and type "cd Desktop"
[05:09] <jimmy__> ok
[05:09] <test> it should say /home/you/Desktop
[05:09] <test> jimmy__: are you there?
[05:10] <jimmy__> test:  ok done
[05:10] <jimmy__> yes
[05:10] <jimmy__> type command again?
[05:10] <test> jimmy now type sudo ndiswrapper -i nameoffile.inf
[05:11] <test> jimmy__: nameoffile is your driver file
[05:12] <jimmy__> test: lol..........  its says its already installed
[05:13] <test> jimmy__: do ndiswrapper -l
[05:13] <test> jimmy__: and tell me what it says
[05:14] <jimmy__> installed ndis drivers
[05:15] <test> jimmy does it tell you driver present?
[05:15] <jimmy__> bcmwl5 invalid driver
[05:15] <test> type sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5
[05:16] <jimmy__> test: sorry I cant type on these small laptops
[05:16] <jimmy__> ok
[05:16] <test> jimmy__: its okay. my english is kind of horrible sometimes
[05:17] <PokerFacePenguin> anybody got a fix for the disappearing icons after an upgrade to dapper?
[05:17] <jimmy__> ok
[05:17] <test> jimmy__: still in the desktop directory?
[05:18] <jimmy__> yes
[05:18] <PokerFacePenguin> my desktop icons are just acting flaky..still there
[05:18] <PokerFacePenguin> a reboot brings em back
[05:18] <test> sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[05:19] <test> jimmy__: sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[05:20] <jimmy__> test: wow
[05:20] <jimmy__> that did something
[05:20] <test> jimmy__: type ndiswrapper -l
[05:21] <test> jimmy__: tell me what it says
[05:22] <jimmy__> installing bcmwl5
[05:22] <jimmy__> forcing param   ibssgmode
[05:22] <jimmy__> 6 times
[05:23] <test> jimmy__: okay when you get the prompt type ndiswrapper -l
[05:23] <jimmy__> installed ndis drivers
[05:23] <jimmy__> ok
[05:23] <KaiHanari> whats a good command line app to capture an image from a video device once every "x" seconds and save it to a file, same filename every time
[05:23] <KaiHanari> ?
[05:24] <jimmy__> drivers installed
[05:24] <jimmy__> driver present, hardware present
[05:24] <test> jimmy__: okay now its a breeze
[05:24] <test> jimmy__: type sudo ndiswrapper -m
[05:25] <jimmy__> done
[05:26] <test> jimmy__: now type sudo depmod -a
[05:26] <jimmy__> test: looks good
[05:27] <test> jimmy__: did you put in sudo depmod -a?
[05:27] <jimmy__> test:  installed drivers
[05:27] <jimmy__> yes
[05:27] <test> jimmy__: now type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:28] <jimmy__> test: done
[05:28] <test> jimmy__: just a sec
[05:29] <jimmy__> test:  ok
[05:29] <test> jimmy__: type sudo kate /etc/modules
[05:30] <test> jimmy__: put ndiswrapper on the bottoom of the list, save aand exit
[05:30] <cesar> hi
[05:31] <jimmy__> there is no 'list save and exit'
[05:32] <test> jimmy__: what happened when you typed sudo kate /etc/modules?
[05:32] <jimmy__> kate oped up
[05:32] <test> jimmy__: what did you see in it?
[05:33] <test> jimmy__: for example my file has ps2 mouse and another line in that file.
[05:34] <jimmy__> test: can I paste you the info?
[05:34] <test> jimmy__: you can paste it on pastebin.ca and send me the link to it
[05:34] <jimmy__> yes i have "psmouse" right under lp
[05:35] <test> jimmy__: at the bottom of that list put ndiswrapper
[05:35] <jimmy__> ok
[05:35] <test> jimmy__: underneath the last item
[05:36] <test> jimmy__: after that save the file
[05:36] <andrew_> How do you install nvidia drivers on kinux?I try but it wanted my to rewrite something.
[05:36] <jimmy__> http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[05:36] <KaiHanari> whats a good command line app to capture an image from a video device once every "x" seconds and save it to a file, same filename every time?
[05:37] <andrew_> Opps i said kinux LOL
[05:37] <test> jimmy__: did you put ndiswrapper in there and save the file?
[05:37] <jimmy__> ok yeah I did after I sent you the link
[05:37] <andrew_> no how do you do that?
[05:37] <jimmy__> space needed or no?
[05:38] <test> jimmy__: no space just right after the last item
[05:38] <jimmy__> (i.e. extera line?)
[05:38] <test> jimmy__: on a line by itself
[05:38] <jimmy__> ok done
[05:38] <test> jimmy__: save the file
[05:38] <jimmy__> done
[05:38] <test> jimmy__: close kate
[05:39] <test> then type sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:39] <jimmy__> konsole going crazy
[05:39] <test> jimmy__: what happened?
[05:40] <test> jimmy__: you can open a new konsole if need be
[05:40] <jimmy__> xlib no protocol
[05:40] <test> jimmy__: are you back at the prompt?
[05:40] <jimmy__> yes
[05:40] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Hi
[05:41] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech
[05:41] <test> jimmy__: type sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:42] <test> jimmy__my terminal tells me strange things when i start kate from the command line too
[05:42] <jimmy__> oh ok
[05:42] <test> jimmy__: once kate opens let me know
[05:42] <jimmy__> its open
[05:43] <test> jimmy__: scroll to the bottom of the file
[05:43] <jimmy__> done
[05:44] <test> jimmy__: i assume you are using wep?
[05:44] <jimmy__> no encryption
[05:44] <jimmy__> I'm wide open baby
[05:44] <test> jimmy__: put on a line by itself "blacklist bcm43xx"
[05:45] <test> jimmy__: at the bottom of the file.
[05:45] <test> jimmy__: after that save the file.
[05:46] <test> jimmy__: let me know when it is done
[05:46] <jimmy__> done
[05:46] <jimmy__> close?
[05:46] <test> now reboot the computer and your wireless should come up
[05:47] <jimmy__> ok
[05:47] <jimmy__> dude if this works I owe you
[05:47] <test> jimmy__: i hope it does
[05:47] <jimmy__> I have connections
[05:47] <test> jimmy__: thats what i did for mine and it worked
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Can you get me a OC3?
[05:47] <test> hiya DaSkreech
[05:48] <jimmy__> ok, see you after reboot
[05:48] <test> jimmy__: okay good luck
[05:48] <jimmy__> bbl
[05:48] <jimmy__> thanx
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Dang it what did I miss?
[05:52] <intelikey> would someone please explain to me one more time, 'why there is no ext2/3 fs support in the default kernel/s for *ubuntu' ???
[05:52] <test> jimmy__: whats the good word?
[05:54] <jimmy__> it works
[05:54] <jimmy__> test: your the bomb
[05:54] <intelikey> and also what is all the support that is there???  the kernel image is 1.4m  with no ext#fs support ???
[05:54] <jimmy__> test: I'm wireless baby
[05:54] <test> jimmy__: glad to hear it
[05:54] <DaSkreech> crimsun: Bleh :-P
[05:54] <jimmy__> test: thanx so much
[05:54] <test> jimmy__: like i said not to difficult and you are very very welcome
[05:55] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Huh?
[05:55] <jimmy__> I switched from Windows, so I have to start all over
[05:55] <lmosher> I'm new to apt-get. How do I deal with this: libfreetype6-dev: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.1.10-1ubuntu2) but 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[05:56] <jimmy__> Got to go now
[05:56] <test> jimmy__: have a good night
[05:56] <jimmy__> take care
[05:56] <Kr4t05> lmosher, sudo apt-get install -f (?)
[05:56] <jimmy__> test: you too
[05:57] <lmosher> Kr4t05: just says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[05:57] <DaSkreech> lmosher: What did you do?
[05:57] <Kr4t05> lmosher, that's all I got.
[05:57] <intelikey> lmosher sudo apt-get install libfreetype6
[05:58] <lmosher> DaSkreech: I've been installing a bunch of libraries to get wine to compile..
[05:58] <jimmy__> test: one more question
[05:58] <DaSkreech> lmosher: Why don't you just apt-get install wine?
[05:58] <lmosher> intelikey: I tried that: libfreetype6 is already the newest version.
[05:58] <test> jimmy__: yes?
[05:58] <lmosher> DaSkreech: Because I'm on a 64 bit machine and my particular application requires a patch to the source.
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Ok
[05:58] <jimmy__> test:  the drivers that are on the desktop, what do I do with them?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> lmosher: You can try apt-get build-dep wine
[05:59] <lmosher> it seems like it's complaining over a trivial version difference.. can't I just force it?
[05:59] <intelikey> lmosher you have the update repos enabled ?
[05:59] <lmosher> intelikey: yes I do
[05:59] <test> jimmy__: i would suggest you leave them there for now. It migt disrupt things if you move them
[05:59] <jimmy__> ok
[05:59] <intelikey> lmosher sudo apt-get update    then try again
[06:00] <jimmy__> ok no prob
[06:00] <jimmy__> thanx
[06:00] <jimmy__> later
[06:00] <test> jimmy__: anytime
[06:00] <lmosher> intelikey: hrmm: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:01] <intelikey> lmosher pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:01] <intelikey> !paste
[06:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:01] <lmosher> alrighty
[06:02] <lmosher> http://rafb.net/paste/results/eSoWLj86.html
[06:02] <intelikey> k
[06:04] <intelikey> lmosher which repos failed ?
[06:04] <intelikey> wine ?
[06:04] <lmosher> let me paste the result of 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:32] <lmosher> intelikey: Good point.
[06:32] <lmosher> I'll get the hang of apt-get eventually :P
[06:32] <nrdb> hi I am having trouble with recording sound I installed the program "sound-recorder" it doesn't pick up anything.  I can here the microphone in the speaker if I tap it.  how come no sound is picked up with "sound-recorder -c 2 -f wav /tmp/test.wav" ???
[06:33] <nrdb> krec doesn't seem to get anything ether.
[06:34] <lmosher> You've looked a volume mixer and made sure it's set to record, right?
[06:34] <intelikey> nrdb you will have to select the mic as the input device to record from
[06:34] <intelikey> aumix is a good app for that also.
[06:35] <nrdb> intelikey: in kmix both the green and red light are on.  and I can here the mic. if i tap it.
[06:36] <intelikey> nrdb ok, but it may not be selected in the app that you are using.   check the settings for the app.
[06:36] <intelikey> one thing about linux; there are always more than one way to get there.
[06:38] <lmosher> crap wine's make just gave me the following:
[06:38] <lmosher> ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64 (/usr/lib/libsicuuc.a(ubidi.ao)) to format elf32-i386 (gdi32.mMRENe.o) is not supported
[06:38] <lmosher> winebuild: ld -m elf_i386 -r failed with status 256
[06:38] <lmosher> the ./configure gave me no warnigns, but am I missing something?
[06:39] <intelikey> lmosher hmmm building 64 bit...... idk.
[06:39] <nrdb> intelikey: I told 'sound-recorder' to use /dev/dsp with "-A /dev/dsp" still nothing.
[06:39] <ironfroggy> if i have multiple kubuntu boxes, is it possible to share software between them? that is, to have /usr and /lib on network mounted volumes?
[06:39] <nrdb> intelikey: can you use /dev/dsp directly
[06:40] <ironfroggy> oh crapo
[06:40] <intelikey> nrdb yes.  but alsa uses /dev/snd/*
[06:40] <nixternal> weeeeeee
[06:41] <lmosher> intelikey: hrm after a google search I got a solution that says just add lots of libs that have 'elf' in the name :P
[06:41] <ironfroggy> asking again, since the netsplit pushed my message all wacko-like: if i have multiple kubuntu boxes, is it possible to share software between them? that is, to have /usr and /lib on network mounted volumes?
[06:41] <nrdb> ironfroggy: I don
[06:42] <intelikey> nrdb i'm needed elsewhere,  hope you get it.   maybe someone else can help you.
[06:42] <nrdb> ironfroggy: I don't see why not.  not an expert though
[06:42] <nrdb> intelikey: ok bye
[06:42] <intelikey> ironfroggy /usr  yes   lib i don't think so.
[06:42] <ironfroggy> why not /lib?
[06:46] <TehKewl1> I cant get xlib to install, which i need for my printer, conficts
[07:06] <iceman> BUENAS NOCHES DESDE MEXICO
[07:07] <DaSkreech> HI Mutaito
[07:07] <Mutaito> Hi
[07:07] <Mutaito> who wants talk for a while?
[07:08] <seth> Mutaito, if you just wish to talk, you should try #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:08] <Mutaito> -_-
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Good point :-)
[07:09] <diego> does anybody knows which is the best way to share the internet connection from kubuntu to windows xp ?
[07:09] <abattoir> a DoS ?
[07:09] <Mutaito> ok i got it
[07:09] <DaSkreech> abattoir: So  I wasn't crazy freenode did go down
[07:09] <abattoir> DaSkreech: "we're thinking it's a denial"
[07:10] <abattoir> i cant think of anything that has 'denial' in it other than DoS
[07:10] <DaSkreech> diego: I don't know about the best way but you could set Kubuntu as a gateway
[07:10] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Yeah I'm pretty sure thats what she meant
[07:10] <Hawkwind> Windows on the internet........are you insane :P
[07:10] <abattoir> hehe
[07:11] <diego> hahaha
[07:11] <Mutaito> Windows sucks
[07:11] <diego> i know, but i need it
[07:11] <Mutaito> configure kubuntu like a gateway
[07:11] <Mutaito> that's all
[07:11] <diego> does firestarter works on kubuntu ?
[07:12] <Mutaito> yes
[07:12] <diego> how can i configure kubuntu like a gateway, without being the pussy from crackers?
[07:12] <Mutaito> i  have not  problems with it
[07:13] <wolfmanz> How do i read a ntfs drive under kubuntu?
[07:13] <Mutaito> what you mean with crackers?
[07:13] <Healot> mount it, wolfmanz
[07:13] <Mutaito> mount -t ntfs /dev...... /media/.....
[07:14] <qwertybob> im going for the 64 bit install, no matter what you say
[07:14] <Mutaito> so much power with 64 bits
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Go for it!!
[07:14] <qwertybob> amd duo core i just got, but i am suspicious the bios was set incorrectly?
[07:14] <diego> with crackers i mean someone who can enter to my computer
[07:15] <DaSkreech> If you ca n virtualize it and run a Xen Dom 0 do that to!
[07:15] <DaSkreech> and run XGL!
[07:15] <qwertybob> bios was set for pci graphics when it has none
[07:15] <qwertybob> ive got xgl on s sony vaio runs great
[07:15] <sean_> lol
[07:15] <sean_> XGL is awesome
[07:15] <Mutaito> you can use firestarter for protect your network
[07:15] <sean_> D:
[07:15] <knapper> 16bits ftw
[07:15] <knapper> :D
[07:15] <knapper> it beats the rest
[07:16] <Mutaito> or you can made a firewall with iptables
[07:16] <qwertybob> do you think that bios was correct? or is hp screwed up , or return job
[07:16] <maryham> Hi Lynoure!
[07:16] <diego> i want firestarter because it can share my internet connection too
[07:16] <qwertybob> the box kind of looked like crappy tape job
[07:16] <maryham> Hope you had a sweet dream!
[07:17] <qwertybob> im thinking someone tried a pci card and returned it or im wrong about settings in bios
[07:17] <Lynoure> maryham: About average, I guess.
[07:17] <qwertybob> the default should be onboard graphics
[07:17] <wolfmanz> Healot ya i tried that and i get a error "cant find dev/hdb1in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[07:18] <qwertybob> i guess if it works, looks new anyway
[07:18] <Mutaito> i think that firestarter only protect from attacks, but try to use it, may be it can do it like you say
[07:18] <qwertybob> anyone else running 64 version?
[07:19] <qwertybob> last chance to unconvince me, it does boot a little slower live
[07:19] <Mutaito> 64 bit rules
[07:19] <qwertybob> im going to partition 200G for kubuntu then leave 40G for windows
[07:19] <qwertybob> ok
[07:19] <Mutaito> somuch power if you know use it
[07:19] <diego> i know it can, i read it in a forum and in the homepage
[07:20] <qwertybob> i need more power
[07:20] <diego> how can i change the workgroup ?!?!?!?!
[07:21] <Mutaito> edit /etc/passwd
[07:21] <qwertybob> or go to settings
[07:21] <Mutaito> user settings
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Mutaito: Huh?
[07:22] <Lynoure> qwertybob: groups are in /etc/group not in passwd
[07:22] <qwertybob> im using the ubuntu64 install iso to get to kubuntu desktop
[07:22] <DaSkreech> diego: You mean the Workgroup the computer is in?
[07:22] <Mutaito> ???????
[07:23] <qwertybob> dont listen to me
[07:23] <Lynoure> qwertybob: oops, ment that for Mutaito
[07:23] <diego> the workgroup form the network
[07:23] <Mutaito> haaaaaaaaaa
[07:23] <qwertybob> im not even running kubuntu sorry
[07:23] <Mutaito> i'm wrong
[07:24] <qwertybob> i have to be careful now, not to delete windows partition
[07:24] <DaSkreech> diego: As far as I know you set that in the Samba settings or in  The network in the System settins
[07:24] <diego> this is my first day in something that isn't windows ! !
[07:24] <DaSkreech> I really don't think that you need it though
[07:24] <qwertybob> system settings first
[07:24] <qwertybob> you should explore all the gui stuff
[07:24] <Mutaito> i undestand now
[07:25] <andrew_> is there a dvd decoder for linux?
[07:25] <DaSkreech> diego: Why do you need it?
[07:25] <DaSkreech> andrew_:  VLC :)
[07:25] <Mutaito> libdvd3
[07:25] <diego> why do i need what !?
[07:25] <diego> to change the workgroup?
[07:25] <andrew_> To watch movies
[07:25] <Mutaito> change your workgrup
[07:25] <qwertybob> stupid restore partition takes up 10G
[07:26] <Mutaito> skip it
[07:26] <qwertybob> i wonder if i should delete it
[07:26] <qwertybob> i guess i can worry about it later
[07:26] <qwertybob> right
[07:26] <Mutaito> yes
[07:26] <diego> i cant share files know, so I dont need it really, but i really need to share the internet connection in a safe way
[07:27] <andrew_> Is there a way to watch movies with linux?
[07:27] <Mutaito> ;)
[07:27] <DaSkreech> andrew_: VLC :)
[07:27] <Mutaito> use Mplayer
[07:27] <Mutaito> or caffeine
[07:27] <Mutaito> with restricted codecs
[07:27] <qwertybob> andrew_: or vlc
[07:28] <DaSkreech> diego: Does the Kubuntu machie have two etwork cards?
[07:28] <andrew_> I tried I need some codecs
[07:28] <diego> yes
[07:28] <qwertybob> !dvd
[07:28] <Mutaito> chek ubuntu wiki
[07:28] <qwertybob> restricted formats page in wiki
[07:28] <diego> i already share my connection with windows xp and a hub
[07:28] <Mutaito> search for restricted formats
[07:28] <qwertybob> !restrictedformats
[07:29] <Mutaito> lol
[07:29] <qwertybob> !mplayer
[07:29] <qwertybob> is it me or what?
[07:29] <diego> ...and two more computers as clients
[07:29] <diego> how is the gateway method?
[07:30] <diego> what may i do
[07:30] <qwertybob> Mutaito: how much swap for 2G?
[07:30] <qwertybob> or do i need any
[07:30] <Mutaito> your pc gives internet conection to other pc's when it is configured like gateway
[07:30] <Mutaito> 4 G
[07:30] <Mutaito> or more
[07:31] <Mutaito> at less
[07:31] <qwertybob> lol
[07:31] <diego> and how can i configure my pc like a gateway?
[07:32] <qwertybob> andre_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:32] <qwertybob> w
[07:32] <Mutaito> you need two network cards first
[07:32] <diego> i do have them
[07:33] <Mutaito> a router?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> !gateway
[07:33] <diego> one is connected to the modem and the other is connected to a hub... and a windows xp and a windows 98 are connected to the hub
[07:34] <Mutaito> if you've a router not needed
[07:34] <diego> i dont have a router
[07:34] <qwertybob> ubuntu64 is working real smooth live and I am installing at same time
[07:34] <Mutaito> then you need two netcards
[07:34] <DaSkreech> diego: echo 1 > /proc/net/ipv4/ip_forward I think
[07:35] <diego> what is the function from this command?
[07:36] <Mutaito> redirect your conection to one ip
[07:36] <diego> thats dangerous
[07:37] <diego> or am i wrong?
[07:37] <Mutaito> in so many cases, yes
[07:37] <diego> hey, can i download and install firestarter through the konsole ?
[07:38] <abattoir> !info firestarter
[07:38] <Mutaito> yes i think
[07:38] <abattoir> ubotu isnt there :'(
[07:38] <Mutaito> try to use apt-get intall firestarter
[07:38] <Mutaito> install
[07:38] <Mutaito> sorry
[07:39] <abattoir> diego: also prefix sudo before what Mutaito said
[07:39] <DaSkreech> diego: Try adept
[07:39] <wolfmanz> How do i mount a drive that i can see in konqueror is unmounted yet when i try to mount itkubuntu cant find the drive?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Huh?
[07:40] <Mutaito> your drive is not correct
[07:40] <diego> it doesnt work because it couldt find the package
[07:41] <wolfmanz> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:41] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Ah Ok
[07:41] <Mutaito> you need add universe repository
[07:41] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /path/to/where/you/wantit
[07:42] <wolfmanz> i knopw the drive works find and is hooked up i use it in windows all the time so the drive is not the issues
[07:42] <wolfmanz> when i try the mount it tells me it cant find the drive
[07:42] <ports> hey
[07:43] <ports> can someone hepl me out with a jumpdrive?
[07:43] <Mutaito> diego: edit /etc/apt/source.list and uncoment universe repositories
[07:43] <Mutaito> and try again
[07:43] <Mutaito> sudo apt-get update
[07:43] <ports> i didnt dismount it before i ejected it.. now i cant get it to re-recognize with dmesg and mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbddrive
[07:43] <Mutaito> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[07:43] <ironfroggy> anyone here configure for a brother 420CN printer/fax/scanner? common machine, but i dont see it in the list, even tho i know brother's makes linux drivers for it.
[07:44] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Try that command I just gave you
[07:44] <Healot> !info firestarter
[07:44] <Teejay_wp> My music is playing at a faster speed than normal
[07:44] <diego> ~$ edit /etc/apt/source.list
[07:44] <diego> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/source.list" -- using "application/*"
[07:44] <diego> Error: no write permission for file "/etc/apt/source.list"
[07:44] <Teejay_wp> I think there is a problem with the settings in the sound card
[07:45] <DaSkreech> !universe
[07:45] <Mutaito> firestarter is a firewall with a easy use interface
[07:45] <Healot> prefix "sudo", diego
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Ahh where is ubotu :(
[07:45] <Healot> sudo nano file > diego, way easier than that
[07:45] <foxfire> !vnc
[07:46] <Mutaito> diego: use kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <zaire> !vnc
[07:46] <Healot> obotu is off ;-
[07:46] <Mutaito> for a grafical editor
[07:47] <diego> it ask me for a password
[07:47] <Mutaito> type your session password
[07:47] <Healot> your user password
[07:47] <ironfroggy> hey im running the install, and its been sitting with the same progress percentage and time remaining for at lest five minutes with no hdd activity. what should i do?
[07:47] <game> Help, I have two user accounts in kubuntu. In one I can get nvidia opengl rendering to work fine, but in the other it wont. How can I fix this?
[07:48] <diego> i think it works, kate opened the list
[07:48] <diego> what mus i change?
[07:49] <Mutaito> uncoment the universe repository
[07:49] <Mutaito> it is something like this
[07:49] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: Desktop Cd?
[07:49] <game> anyone?
[07:50] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: yes
[07:50] <diego> sorry, i dont speak english very well.... WHAT IS UNCOMENT?  TO DELETE?
[07:50] <Mutaito> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[07:50] <Mutaito>  deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper univers
[07:50] <wolfmanz> Daskreech i did your i did the following sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows/ and it mounted it but now it wont enter the windows folder
[07:50] <DaSkreech> diego: If there is a # at the start of the line it is  commented out
[07:50] <Mutaito> just erease the sharp simbol "#"
[07:50] <Lunar_Raven> !ivman
[07:51] <DaSkreech> diego: That means that it is not used to uncomment delete the '#' and the line is used again
[07:51] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: What error?
[07:51] <Mutaito> save the file after do this
[07:52] <Mutaito> where yoy from diego?
[07:52] <Mutaito> where are you from diego?
[07:52] <diego> from chile
[07:52] <Mutaito> por que no dices que hablas espaol
[07:52] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech Konqueror is saying it cant enter the windows folder
[07:52] <diego> and you?
[07:52] <Mutaito> desde un principio
[07:52] <diego> jajajjaa
[07:52] <Mutaito> mexico
[07:53] <diego> mi polola se fue a estudiar a merida y me dej solo  :'(
[07:53] <diego> (polola=novia)
[07:53] <diego> que decias que hiciera !?
[07:53] <Mutaito> que mal
[07:53] <qwertybob> i just installed ubuntu64 boot to login was under 30 seconds
[07:53] <Mutaito> borra los #
[07:53] <diego> que hago en source.list ?
[07:53] <Mutaito> de las lineas universe
[07:53] <diego> ahh
[07:54] <diego> que hace el #
[07:54] <diego> ?
[07:54] <diego> es como poner REM ?
[07:54] <Mutaito> comenta la linea y es como si no existiera no hace nada
[07:54] <Mutaito> la comenta
[07:54] <diego> ahh
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Mutaito, diego: sorry but can I ask you to go to #kubuntu-es ?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Muchas Gracias :)
[07:54] <Mutaito> i like to speak in english
[07:55] <DaSkreech> diego, Mutaito: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/36843-internet-connection-sharing-linux.html
[07:55] <Mutaito> but this is a exception
[07:55] <DaSkreech> I think that would help
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Mutaito: I'm not saying leave here
[07:55] <Mutaito> ok ok
[07:55] <DaSkreech> I'm saying keep spanish conversations where it's not distracting
[07:55] <diego> in a moment DaSkreech, i'll go when i finish talking to mutaito in a few minutes
[07:55] <Mutaito> take it easy
[07:55] <DaSkreech> diego: Not asking you to leave here
[07:56] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech Konqueror is saying it cant enter the windows folder
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Just if you are keeping up a conversation in spanish then #kubuntu-es is a better place
[07:56] <diego> ok
[07:56] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: What error is it giving you
[07:56] <wolfmanz> that is the error
[07:56] <diego> what is the command to change the channel ?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> The URL I just gave you has two links off of it which should help you a lot
[07:56] <Mutaito> nol ehagas caso
[07:57] <Mutaito> que se joda
[07:57] <Healot> - /join #channelname
[07:57] <DaSkreech> diego: /join #kubuntu-es
[07:57] <diego> si, pero igual es util
[07:57] <Mutaito> ya que quitaste los # guarda el archivo y en la consola pones sudo apt-get update
[07:57] <diego> quito TODOS los # ?
[07:57] <Mutaito> y despues tratas de intalarlo otra vez sudo apt-get install firestarter
[07:57] <Mutaito> no todos
[07:57] <DaSkreech> You can always click back over here and talk if you like but long spanish conversations make it harder for us to catch english help requests
[07:58] <Mutaito> solo los de las lineas qu ese parescan a estas
[07:58] <Mutaito> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[07:58] <Mutaito>  deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper univers
[07:58] <Mutaito> qu etenga esa notacion
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Mutaito: Umm
[07:58] <Mutaito> ok
[07:58] <Mutaito> sorry
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Thanks :)
[07:58] <Healot> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> add this on line easier isn't it?
[07:58] <Mutaito> i finish with him
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Again not trying to run you away it's just distracting
[07:59] <DaSkreech> He's going to need help with the URL I just gave the both of you
[07:59] <Mutaito> i'll speak in english since now
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Mutaito: Thanks a lot for helping btw
[07:59] <Mutaito> sorry everyone
[07:59] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Right click on the Windows folder and tell me who owns it
[07:59] <diego> :( it doesnt work
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Mutaito: Not a big deal. Most people don't know about #kubuntu-es :)
[08:00] <diego> it didnt find the package
[08:00] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech root does
[08:00] <Mutaito> bad news
[08:00] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Ok well that's why you can't go in :0-)
[08:01] <DaSkreech> What are you trying to do in there?
[08:01] <Mutaito> add multiverse repository
[08:01] <burepe> I am trying to run this command "sudo apt-get build-dep banshee" and it keeps telling me I need a URI in sources.list what does that mean?
[08:01] <wolfmanz> The drive is under root but so to is the main linux drive and i can get in that no problem
[08:01] <DaSkreech> diego: Did you do an update?
[08:02] <Mutaito> sudo apt-get update
[08:02] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech i'm trying to access this drive is what i'm trying to do i need some files from it
[08:02] <diego> i did an update with Adept
[08:03] <diego> (i think it was adept)
[08:03] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Ok For a quick check try sudo cd into the folder from the command line
[08:03] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:04] <Mutaito> add this lines to file
[08:04] <Mutaito>  deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[08:04] <Mutaito>  deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[08:04] <Mutaito> it must work
[08:04] <diego> en cualquier parte del texto?
[08:04] <Mutaito> yes
[08:04] <Mutaito> al final si quieres
[08:04] <fatejudger> does anyone know whether today's Edgy build is going to be the same as Knot 1?
[08:05] <diego> can you tell me the command again?
[08:05] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech sudo cd command not found
[08:05] <Mutaito> change mx for your country
[08:05] <Mutaito> like other lines
[08:05] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: sudo su -
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Then cd into the folder
[08:05] <diego> what was the command for changing the list with kate?
[08:06] <Mutaito> kdesu kate
[08:06] <DaSkreech> diego: Just press up :)
[08:06] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech no such file or directory
[08:06] <Lynoure> hmm
[08:07] <Mutaito> someone here is a pretty girl?
[08:07] <abattoir> heh
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Umm
[08:07] <DaSkreech> How about a girl? :)
[08:07] <rs3york> here we go...
[08:07] <abattoir> kate got you thinking? ;)
[08:07] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: What did you type?
[08:07] <Mutaito> it's only a question
[08:08] <diego> :S it doesnt work
[08:08] <Mutaito> sudo apt-get update first
[08:09] <Mutaito> sudo apt-get install firestarter later
[08:09] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech ok i got into the drive now i made a typo but how do i get the contents of the drive to show up in konueror?
[08:09] <ports> hrm
[08:09] <ports> how do i delete files from command line
[08:10] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: You would have to open Konq as root
[08:10] <Lynoure> ports: rm <filename>
[08:10] <DaSkreech> ports: rm of course :)
[08:10] <ports> Lynoure im using a livecd of Backtrack... and its mounted the hda1 as read only.. how do i change that
[08:10] <ports> i forgot the read only
[08:10] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech why cant i access the drive as a standard user?
[08:10] <Lynoure> ports: ask the channel, not me specifically... I'm morningish on my first day off from work :)
[08:11] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Because a) It's NTFS  and b) It's root's
[08:11] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech so this is the only way to access a ntfs drive?
[08:11] <Mutaito> mount -t ntfs
[08:12] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Nope but that's how you have it
[08:12] <ports> Mutaito whos that for?
[08:12] <ports> mount -t ntfs.. shows hda1 as (ro)
[08:13] <Mutaito> wolfmanz
[08:13] <ports> Mutaito ah.. any idea how i could remount this drive so its not read only?
[08:13] <Mutaito> mmmmmm
[08:14] <ports> im trying to do some data recovery cuz the Windows install is dead..
[08:14] <Mutaito> do you need writte on it?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> remount -o ro
[08:14] <ports> and hes got this damn folder of mp3s in his mydocs.. which im trying to delete so i can rescue it
[08:14] <uwo> simbosimbol
[08:14] <ports> DaSkreech remount command not found
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Whoops ;)
[08:15] <ports> DaSkreech unmount doesnt work either
[08:15] <DaSkreech> umount
[08:15] <Mutaito> ports: can you read the drive?
[08:15] <ports> yup
[08:15] <ports> im looking around copying files
[08:15] <Mutaito> use eject /dev/...
[08:15] <Mutaito> like root
[08:16] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech so why is it i cant mount this driver while not being root ?
[08:16] <diego> when i mount a NTFS disc, it tells me that inside the mounted folder are no files ! ! !
[08:16] <diego> WHY ?
[08:16] <ports> eject /dev... last error inappropatie ioctl for device
[08:16] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Cause it's not in the /etc/fstab
[08:16] <ackbahr> Hello! I'm trying to put my /boot/grub/menu.lst into the boot record, and get a strange series of error lines (and don't know if it actually worked!). Could anyone help?
[08:16] <ports> eject /dev/hda1 ... hda1 is busy... eject failed
[08:16] <Mutaito> mmmmm
[08:17] <Mutaito> this is so bad
[08:17] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech how do i get it in there?
[08:17] <ports> Mutaito oi vei i know lol
[08:17] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: man fstab
[08:18] <Mutaito> there is something use the disk?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Sounds like it
[08:18] <ports> there was a Firefox window open viewing it.. i closed it
[08:18] <ports> nothing else
[08:18] <ports> im gunna try getting windows activation to work once more..
[08:19] <DaSkreech> man menu.lst
[08:19] <ports> its been a long day
[08:19] <ackbahr> Thnx DaSkreech
[08:19] <ackbahr> DaSkreech: "no entry"
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Doh!
[08:20] <diego> voy y vuelvo
[08:20] <ports> XP SP1.. had som Moviepass spyware.. i tried to remove it and install SP2.. moviepass kills the system when sp2 is installed.. i removed SP2 using the recovery console.. and windows became useless.. couldnt even open my computer.. no icons even showed up..  tried reinstall windows.. and now its sticking me with a stupid activation thing.. which i cant get it online to activate cuz it wont read the wireless card.
[08:20] <Healot> wolfmanz: you can mount a partition using "pmount", the same options, just a different commmand
[08:20] <ports> and the MS phone machine says my install id is invalid.. when im just reading the stuff off teh bottom of the laptop
[08:21] <Healot> ports: OEM CD?
[08:21] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Got your stuff btw?
[08:21] <ackbahr> ports: Might happen if you used this serial# with several installs.... (it's seen by network, then your serial# is marked as invalid)
[08:22] <ports> Healot yeah
[08:22] <ports> ackbahr its the only install.. i thinkit didnt recognize one of the activation codes.. theres 9
[08:22] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech no i copied the stuff to the wrong drive
[08:23] <ackbahr> ports: Might be! Or is your Kboard set up properly?
[08:23] <Healot> ports: reactivate... "%systemroot\system32\oobe\msoobe /r /a%"
[08:23] <ports> Healot cant even login
[08:23] <Healot> call microsoft?
[08:23] <ports> im on the phone
[08:24] <ports> its after hours... so i get a voice machine
[08:24] <Healot> speak to a customer rep, and explain about your case
[08:24] <Healot> ports? wait for tomorrow then
[08:24] <ports> no phone reps atm.. theyll be there in teh morning
[08:24] <ports> if i cant get it.. ill try again
[08:24] <Healot> sure
[08:24] <bob_> hello, could anyone help me with my postfix+sasl+mysql setup?
[08:25] <ackbahr> ports: You'd better, indeed.... Now, maybe one of these "keygen" programs fell on your serial by chance? The odds are 36^25 , but still....  :)
[08:25] <Healot> bob_: using the server CD?
[08:25] <Healot> ackbahr: those proggies failed :)
[08:25] <bob_> Healot: well not really, i've compiled it from sources
[08:25] <Healot> microsoft has been blocking those numbers for some times now
[08:26] <bob_> Healot: i've tried #postfix channel but noone seems to be there now
[08:26] <Healot> btw, since when #kubuntu becomes Windows support channel, heh
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Healot: Good question
[08:30] <ports> ackbahr nah.. its xp home
[08:31] <Healot> bob_: if so, please refer to the readme files and the docs... since ubuntu stock packages settings might differ from your compiled package
[08:31] <thyko> what happens when i remove usplash?
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Ok Bed tiem for me
[08:34] <ackbahr> 'nite
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Night wolfmanz, diego, ports
[08:39] <SpAwN> !restricted
[08:41] <SpAwN> how can i get aac codec support....im trying to use ffmpeg to encode with it....keeps saying i dont have it...but ive installed several packages that where related to aac
[08:41] <abattoir> SpAwN: no ubotu :'(
[08:42] <SpAwN> hehe yea i just notced
[08:43] <SpAwN> i found it....its in the restricted formates page
[08:45] <SpAwN> hmm welp i installed what it said and im still getting error saying no aac codec
[08:46] <SpAwN> anyone have an idea about this http://pastebin.ca/93149
[08:53] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech I got it now thank god
[08:57] <Jack1> hi are there skins /themes for kontact too?
[08:58] <osh_> SpAwN: What's "Aqua teen hunger force"? Also, apparently you don't have some codec that you need. Never done anything with ffmpeg so I can't say more than that.
[08:58] <SpAwN> osh_, its a cartoon from cartoonnetwork.....its pretty funny
[08:59] <Jack1> hi are there skins /themes for kontact too?
[08:59] <Jack1> havent found them yet
[09:01] <SpAwN> hmmanyone know why i cant unmount/eject my dvd rom driver....even as root
[09:01] <SpAwN> and the button isnt doing anything
[09:03] <wolfmanz> Whats with the lottle globe bouncing around when i load up firefox? even after the browser is up for a few seconds after its up i still have that blobe on my mouse pointer whats firefox doing?
[09:04] <dillinger> you can disable it
[09:04] <andrew_> Is there a way to move files with Konsole?
[09:05] <dillinger> andrew_: the mv command
[09:05] <dillinger> andrew_: man mv
[09:06] <andrew_> really so I would type file mv new folder
[09:07] <dillinger> mv -file- -newlocation-
[09:09] <ironfroggy> i have a problem with the installer. ive already installed on two boxes, and i get to the third and its failed three times in a row.
[09:09] <ironfroggy> but its failed oddly..
[09:09] <andrew_> I need to write files to a folder but I need Super user access.
[09:11] <ironfroggy> during the "configure kubuntu-desktop" stage, from a text install, the screen flickers and goes blank save for two white blocks, and the install seems to be continuing. last time, it even spat out the CD after a while, like it was done, but when i rebooted the grub menu wouldnt even load.
[09:11] <ironfroggy> trying it again, but ive already run into the blank screen issue.. waiting to see if the CD pops out again.
[09:12] <andrew_> Is there a way to write files with superuser access without konsole?
[09:12] <ironfroggy> what kind of files? copied files? edited files? downloaded files?
[09:13] <andrew_> I'm installing doom3 on linux and have to move the pk4 files from the discs to the folder
[09:13] <abattoir> andrew_: 'sudo konqueror' or 'kdesu konqueror' ?
[09:14] <andrew_> What would that do?
[09:14] <ironfroggy> if i see the "grub 1.5" line when i boot up, but it never shows the boot menu, what does that indicate?
[09:15] <Jack1> hi how can i configure kontact to start automatically egon desktop 2?
[09:17] <wolfmanz> is there a way to make the application menu smaller like you can in XP?
[09:17] <abattoir> Jack1: click on the icon on the windeco (top left corner) -> Advanced -> Special application settings
[09:18] <abattoir> wolfmanz: what exactly do you mean? Kmenu?
[09:19] <wolfmanz> abattoir ya where you can find the files and folder option that menu
[09:19] <abattoir> wolfmanz: smaller in the sense, you want to remove some entries?
[09:19] <abattoir> then try 'kmenuedit'
[09:19] <wolfmanz> no smaller in size it just seems big
[09:20] <wolfmanz> i'm running this install at 1024 by 768
[09:23] <andrew_> It didn't the klancher wouldn't work is there a other way to sudo
[09:24] <dillinger> andrew_: just type kdesu konqueror
[09:24] <dillinger> it'll launch konqueror with super-user rights
[09:24] <ironfroggy> what is the difference between a normal install and a server install?
[09:24] <dillinger> you'll be able to do whatever
[09:25] <andrew_> It wouldn't work it said Klauncher faild
[09:25] <leghumpingjihadk> I'm having problems getting quake3 to work
[09:26] <leghumpingjihadk> I think it's working, but the screen resolution is all jacked up
[09:26] <ironfroggy> is the server install just lacking X, or does it include extra packages as well?
[09:26] <leghumpingjihadk> I dunno...I'm a linux n00b
thx u know about thmes for kontact?
[09:28] <dillinger> well you know what andrew_, stick with the mv command, just type sudo before mv
[09:29] <abattoir> Jack1: themes, you mean for the blue curve background thing?
[09:29] <dillinger> andrew_: mv yourfile /path/to/your/forlder
[09:29] <dillinger> andrew_: sudo mv yourfile /path/to/your/forlder
well eg to make look kontact different yes eg in the style of bluecirve
[09:32] <abattoir> Jack1: afaik, you cant directly theme that
[09:32] <abattoir> it is not meant to be themed
[09:32] <abattoir> but there might be a way where you can change a CSS or something
[09:32] <abattoir> let me see if i can find sometihng
[09:32] <abattoir> *something
[09:33] <ironfroggy> anyone know what various combinations of LEDs mean what messages from the bios?
[09:34] <crimsun> that's motherboard-specific
[09:34] <ironfroggy> for example, what does it mean when all keyboard and drive lights are solid and the keyboard is non-responsive?
[09:34] <ironfroggy> certainly there are at least general trends?
[09:34] <crimsun> yeah, that's generally a stuck-key
[09:34] <crimsun> try a different keyboard
[09:34] <crimsun> are they ps/2 keyboard and mouse?
[09:35] <ironfroggy> no i think not. i get this and rebooting without touching the keyboard it will often go away, so it cant be a key, it would still be stuck.
[09:35] <crimsun> if so, make sure you didn't accidentally plug the wrong ones in
[09:35] <ironfroggy> yes, they are ps/2
[09:35] <ironfroggy> and no, i didnt plug the wrong ones in.
[09:35] <abattoir> Jack1: /usr/share/apps/kontact/about might interest you
[09:35] <ironfroggy> but at the same time i started seeing this, a kubuntu install locked up twice in a row.
[09:35] <crimsun> ironfroggy: you really need to consult the motherboard's manual
[09:36] <ironfroggy> didnt ship with the box. i dont even know whats in it.
 yes but i havent found donloadable themes so far
[09:37] <crimsun> ironfroggy: got a model # that you can reference via a Web search?
[09:38] <abattoir> Jack1: as i said, it is not meant to be themed directly, afaik
[09:39] <ironfroggy> crimsun: do you know the difference between a normal and server install, by chance?
[09:40] <aegeanlinux> a server install doesn't install with graphics pretty much
[09:40] <ironfroggy> as in, are there removed packages from the server install, additional ones, or both?
where in system settings could i specify eg bluecurve styleyes, but only for this application?
[09:42] <abattoir> Jack1: as i have said, these are not meant for the user to change them, hence you'd not find explicit options...
[09:42] <abattoir>  /usr/share/apps/kontact/about is where the files that kontact uses are stored
[09:42] <ironfroggy> is that even possible?
[09:42] <wolfmanz> can Kubuntu play mp3 files under a default install?
[09:43] <ironfroggy> wolfmanz: no, it borrows that limitation from ubuntu
[09:43] <crimsun> ironfroggy: which server, the option on the alternate install iso or the actual server iso?
[09:44] <ironfroggy> crimsun: alt install's server install option.
[09:44] <Jack1>  <abattoir>in /usr/share/apps/kontact/about the kontact.css file would need to be changed?
[09:44] <wolfmanz> xmms is the winamp clone right?
[09:44] <crimsun> ironfroggy: it installs just base.
[09:45] <crimsun> ironfroggy: meaning no X Window System or goofy stuff
[09:45] <abattoir> Jack1: yes, and the .html file along w/ the image ... depending on what you exactly want
[09:45] <ironfroggy> crimsun: ok so it doesnt include anything extra that server installations might need?
[09:45] <Jack1> <abattoir or could i just copy there a theme file?
[09:45] <abattoir> Jack1: there exists no theme....
[09:45] <crimsun> ironfroggy: not by default, no. You'd want the server image if you wanted that by default. (Of course you can always just manually install stuff beyond the server option.)
[09:46] <Jack1> <abattoir i c well thats quite a workload i guess
[09:46] <ironfroggy> crimsun: no i was hoping it installed nothing extra
[09:46] <abattoir> Jack1: for the last time, there exist no themes, these are not meant to be themed, but if you want it themed that bad, you have to do the dirty work yourself
[09:47] <ironfroggy> crimsun: i think something is going wrong in the install when it installs and configures kubuntu-desktop, but im hoping i can avoid whatever state is causing the problem by skipping that during install and just installing it myself afterwards.
[09:47] <Jack1> lol maybe another day but thx <abattoir
[09:47] <abattoir> Jack1: :)
[09:47] <crimsun> ironfroggy: are you using the graphical installer on the live cd?
[09:47] <ironfroggy> crimsun: ive used both
[09:48] <abattoir> Jack1: does it look that bad?
[09:48] <ironfroggy> graphical and text installers
[09:48] <crimsun> ironfroggy: ok, then yes, try the server option on the alternate installer
[09:48] <crimsun> ->away.
[09:48] <ironfroggy> crimsun: i will do that
[09:48] <Jack1> well no but it could certainly be better
[09:48] <abattoir> Jack1: you might see something better in edgy
[09:49] <Jack1> but <abattoir> i am sure that there once was an option like use this theme in this app only
[09:49] <ironfroggy> so instead of trying to create a seperate "theme", why dont you just improve the looks for inclusion in the project?
[09:49] <Jack1> well yes but maybe someon would need to draw new icons cant do that
[09:50] <abattoir> Jack1: 'themes' in KDE generally are the widget styles... the stuff like CSS are included by separate programs..
[09:50] <ironfroggy> you want to retheme an app but you cant draw a little icon?
[09:51] <abattoir> yaaaay
i didnt say that i want to do it right now when there is time in summer i could focus on that right now i have little knowledge about, well drawing the icon i could but it its reaally timeconsuming
[09:51] <abattoir> !splits and I rock
[09:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about splits and I rock - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:52] <abattoir> hehe, there ya go
[09:53] <Jack1> well thx guys i need to got c u later
[09:53] <abattoir> Jack1: dont worry, you'll do it one day ;)
[09:53] <abattoir> ugh, just late
[09:54] <macd> anyone used unix services for windows to mount NFS on linux?
[09:54] <macd> linux - linux works fine.
[09:54] <intelikey> ?
[09:55] <intelikey> "unix services for windows to mount NFS on linux?"   why would you ?
[09:55] <macd> b/c I have a NFS server and want to allow my windows machines to access it.
[09:56] <ironfroggy> macd: its really just much easier to use samba. NFS sucks anyway.
[09:56] <macd> well thats not what I WANT todo.
[09:56] <macd> the network architecture ad design is in place. Im not revamping it
[09:56] <macd> and*
[09:56] <macd> nfs works fine.
[09:57] <intelikey> i borked apt again.   hmmm and dpkg is hosed also...  eek!
[09:57] <macd> howd did you manage to break apt?
[09:57] <intelikey> it's not hard.
[09:57] <roniez> Has anybody here sucsessfully i nstalled jail on kbuntu?
[09:58] <macd> well Im trying to figure out what you changed?
[09:58] <intelikey> oh the dpkg problem looks simple enough.
[09:58] <macd> as in your sources list? or did you try to build a new versiob of apt from source
[09:58] <intelikey> dpkg: syntax error; unknown user "postfix" in statusoverride file
[09:58] <mathewfer> Hi I instaled a package (.deb downloaded from Internet) and how do I uninstall it? is there a program like RPM to list the installed packages & remoev?
[09:58] <intelikey> no niether.   it's a package dependancy problem
[09:59] <macd> mathewfer: 'sudo dpkg -i packge.deb'
[09:59] <macd> do that in console.
[09:59] <intelikey> mathewfer yes   man dpkg        and apt-cache is your friend
[10:00] <mathewfer> "dpkg -i" is to install? is it? what it the option to list all the installed & option to remove?
[10:00] <macd> mathewfer: yes apt-cache search <package search string here>
[10:00] <intelikey> mathewfer but the answer you are looking for is  'sudo apt-get remove <blah>'
[10:00] <macd> mathewfer: 'man dpkg'
[10:00] <macd> RTFM :P
[10:01] <intelikey> mathewfer dpkg -l | less
[10:02] <mathewfer> thanks. I will try now.
[10:02] <flaccid> what is the 99.8% id (From top) ? - >Cpu(s):  0.0% us,  0.0% sy,  0.0% ni, 99.8% id,  0.2% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
[10:03] <kraut> moin
[10:03] <flaccid> is that idle?
[10:04] <ironfroggy> idle, yeah
[10:04] <roniez> anybody here understand how jailer works?
[10:04] <roniez> i cant figure it out.
[10:05] <macd> roniez: do you want to run something inside a jail ?
[10:05] <flaccid> my ubuntu freezes up/goes a bit slow initiating commands. i don't know what it is. i thought it was heat, but its cool enough
[10:05] <macd> flaccid: are you the liveCD?
[10:05] <macd> well are you running the liveCD rather :P
[10:05] <flaccid> nope kubuntu server install
[10:05] <flaccid> i look like a cd sometimes but
[10:06] <macd> yeah, dont we all ;)
[10:06] <flaccid> like say i do a command man top ... it takes a few seconds or so
[10:06] <macd> what I do is run top in one screen and try my commands in another.
[10:06] <macd> also make sure you have the proper kernel for your arch
[10:06] <roniez> macd: i want to jail everyuser on my box, so they can only run like irssi/BitchX
[10:07] <macd> roniez: ahhh, well theres some pretty great howtos for chrooting users on the ubuntuforums.org site.
[10:07] <flaccid> well i assume this is fine 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT
[10:07] <ironfroggy> maybe skip the commandline and drop them straight into one of those instead?
[10:07] <macd> flaccid and its a dual processor i686?
[10:07] <flaccid> no its single processor
[10:07] <macd> ironfroggy: well that could be defeated very easily
[10:07] <macd> flaccid: then dont run the SMP kernel :P
[10:08] <flaccid> why did it install the smp kernel then if its only 1 processor?
[10:08] <macd> is it a dualcore?
[10:08] <flaccid> nope its a p4 1.7 pretty old
[10:09] <macd> and my guess is b/c its server, just install the linux-686 kernel and reboot then remove the the linux-686-smp one.
[10:09] <intelikey> i686 is smp by default
[10:09] <macd> didnt know that....but you can definetly run the non SMP one.
[10:09] <intelikey> linux-686 is smp
[10:09] <elfshadow14> How can you have DVD playback on linux?
[10:10] <macd> !restricted-formats
[10:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about restricted-formats - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:10] <macd> blah
[10:10] <ironfroggy> elfshadow14: install illegal codecs (well, most likely illegal, depending on your location)
[10:10] <intelikey> !restricted
[10:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:10] <macd> thx.
[10:10] <flaccid> so do you think this could be the reason considering that cpu is idling fully and lots of ram etc. available??
[10:11] <ironfroggy> ok, ive installed kubuntu on this box three times, and every time i reboot and get "GRUB Loading stage1.5", a blinking cursor, and nothing.
[10:11] <elfshadow14> doesn't ubuntu have one in the package manager?
[10:11] <macd> flaccid: thats exactly what you want it todo.
[10:12] <macd> my celeron 2.4 mobile takea bout 1.5seconds to load man top
[10:12] <intelikey> check the forums http://ubuntu.com concerning smp and the late-model kernels   iirc you simply turn smp off.... <shrugs/>
[10:12] <elfshadow14> Is there codecs in the package manager?
[10:12] <macd> so I assume your p4 1.7 would take about 2 or 3
[10:12] <macd> elfshadow14: read the link !
[10:12] <macd> it sais exactly howto do what you want.
[10:13] <elfshadow14> What link?
[10:13] <macd> !restricted
[10:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:13] <macd> those links.
[10:13] <macd> the first is the one you want.
[10:13] <ironfroggy> is there some way to rescue a system which isnt getting to a grub menu?
[10:14] <intelikey> hmmm this 350 k6 loads top in less than one second.
[10:15] <flaccid> the only problem is i have never changed a kernel
[10:15] <macd> we were saying 'man top'
[10:15] <flaccid> i'm a newbie in this area
[10:15] <macd> flaccid its pretty easy
[10:15] <macd> sudo apt-get install linux-686
[10:15] <macd> reboot
[10:15] <flaccid> where should is start ubuntu br0ther?
[10:15] <macd> load up your console
[10:15] <flaccid> w0a thats easier than pulling a bj0ng
[10:15] <macd> and type that sudo line above^
[10:15] <intelikey> ironfroggy yeah  install a boot loader "lilo" maybe...  heh or grub.
[10:16] <ironfroggy> im getting the frub stage1.5 message, but no meny
[10:16] <ironfroggy> menu
[10:16] <ironfroggy> grub... ugh, i must be tired.
[10:16] <flaccid> macd: i get linux-686 is already the newest version.
[10:17] <intelikey> the tab key is your 'grubby friend'
[10:17] <ricardo> where do deleted files with konqueror go????
[10:17] <ironfroggy> what does tab do as my "grubby friend" exactly?
[10:17] <ricardo> please!!!!
[10:18] <ironfroggy> ricardo: they get, ya know, deleted..
[10:18] <macd> ricardo: in konquerer address bar type about:konquerer then click on trash, they should be in there.
[10:18] <intelikey> auto-completion   lists possable commands/partitions/options....
[10:18] <macd> flaccid: then I may be mistaken in thinking i686 is available as non SMP.
[10:19] <Jack1> hi i would like to exchange the icons in kontact; however in /home/johannes/.kde/share/icons/Crystal Clear there is just one theme crystal clear which is not the used one..so i cant find the folder where kontact stores its icons in
[10:20] <intelikey> ricardo .local/trash can of somekind.    but rm'd files are gone.
[10:20] <flaccid> what is SMP?
[10:20] <ironfroggy> intelikey: but its not getting that far.. it displays "GRUB ... stage1.5" and the keyboard locks up.
[10:20] <intelikey> macd forums on smp and dapper kernels.
[10:20] <ironfroggy> im in a rescue mode right now from the alt CD. is there something i can do to troubleshoot the grub configuration?
[10:21] <flaccid> which forums
[10:21] <macd> intelikey: is is available as non-SMP ?
[10:21] <macd> I just noticed my laptop is i686 SMP as well
[10:22] <flaccid> could this actually be the problem then?
[10:22] <intelikey> macd as i said,  iirc you simply turn off the smp portions
[10:22] <Healot> the current release has SMP 686 kernel
[10:22] <macd> intelikey: gotcha
[10:22] <macd> flacid: one sec lemme go readsomething
[10:22] <ricardo> F*****ch
[10:22] <flaccid> thanks
[10:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[10:22] <ricardo> what do u mean they are gone??
[10:22] <flaccid> heh im good at general linux, but never done much kernel stuff
[10:23] <MilhousePunkRock> I am having trouble with WPA
[10:23] <intelikey> ironfroggy yes chroot /<mounted installed linux> grub-install /dev/hda      or something like that.
[10:23] <Jack1> where in kde are the kontact icons stored ? so know?
[10:24] <intelikey> and please interpret <mounted installed linux>
[10:24] <ricardo> is there any way to undelete files???
[10:24] <ricardo> please!!
[10:25] <intelikey> Jack1 icons are like someplace in /usr/share/   do a find /usr/ -name '*.png'
[10:25] <flaccid> ricardo: what fs?
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Can someone have a look at this --> http://pastebin.ca/92585
[10:25] <intelikey> ricardo if they are in the trash can.   if not they are gone.
[10:25] <flaccid> you can undelete with ext2
[10:25] <flaccid> but not ext3
[10:26] <flaccid> what does SMP stand for
[10:26] <ironfroggy> i reran grub-install, and also commented out the option to hide the grub menu, but i still get the same thing.
[10:27] <macd> flaccid: yes it looks like it sais its the SMP symetric multiprocessing kernel but its not actualy runnin g the SMP code.
[10:27] <flaccid> macd: but could that be the reason for process starting up slow?
[10:27] <macd> flaccid: negative.
[10:27] <flaccid> i should i change it anyway?
[10:28] <macd> theres nothing to change :P
[10:28] <flaccid> right
[10:28] <flaccid> this sux :(
[10:28] <macd> if its SMP then it uses SMP code, if not it doesnt
[10:28] <macd> there are quite alot of posts regarding performance with the latest kernel
[10:28] <macd> I havent noticed anything, it takes about 1.5 - 2 seconds to load man top for me.
[10:29] <flaccid> it can take at least 10 seconds for me
[10:29] <flaccid> even longer
[10:29] <macd> wow
[10:29] <flaccid> something is a miss
[10:29] <macd> do you see alot of disk activity?
[10:29] <intelikey> ironfroggy is the same device holding the mbr listed in the live cd as it is from bios.   i have see things like that swap around and confuse the heck out of grub.   also  is the partition that grubs files are on accessable via bios       cause if bios don't see it grub can't boot it.
[10:29] <flaccid> how can i check for disk activity?
[10:29] <macd> the light on the front?
[10:30] <intelikey> that is the reason i can't use grub here ^
[10:30] <flaccid> nah there is not really anything
[10:30] <ironfroggy> so can i install lilo on kubuntu?
[10:31] <flaccid> i suspect faulty cpu/mem/hard disk. but i don't know how to check any of these
[10:31] <intelikey> ironfroggy sure
[10:31] <macd> flaccid, do this, watch TOP in one screen and the command in another
[10:31] <ironfroggy> intelikey: what happens when updates install a new kernel? will it cause grub to be reinstated, or will lilo be used properly?
[10:31] <macd> you know use the shift+alt+f1 or f2
[10:32] <intelikey> it seems to take note of which you are using ironfroggy    i haven't had any problem with it.
[10:32] <ironfroggy> ok. ive had trouble getting grub on this box in the past, if im remembering correctly, so hopefully that will work.
[10:33] <ironfroggy> hmm.. trying to install lilo from the rescue mode, i get lots of errors "unknown terminal: bterm".. what does that mean?
[10:33] <jaffa> hey guyz do any of you know where i can find Alcohol or deamen tools for linux i have tried Mount iso and cd emu but it juz doesnt give me the power that i need any thoughts??
[10:34] <Healot> jaffa, get "bchunk"
[10:34] <flaccid> macd: no screen 0 on this i'm in ssh. not really any cpu activity while top is trying to load
[10:34] <macd> interesting
[10:34] <Healot> convert your stinky cdr/cue/bin into iso image and mount the iso image :)
[10:34] <flaccid> infact it doesn't look like its refreshing
[10:35] <macd> does dmesg give you anything usefull?
[10:35] <macd> you can paste your last say 50 lines or so for me in pastebin if youd like
[10:35] <jaffa> ok but i see
[10:35] <flaccid> but it will say 1.5% cpu , but sshd using 47.5%!
[10:35] <aegeanlinux> WallJam7: roses are red
[10:35] <ricardo> flaccid: ext3
[10:35] <aegeanlinux> WallJam7: violets are blue
[10:35] <aegeanlinux> WallJam7: all of my base
[10:35] <aegeanlinux> WallJam7: are belong to you
[10:36] <ricardo> they are not in the trash can!! FUCK
[10:36] <flaccid> ricardo: no chance
[10:36] <macd> flaccid: at times everything might use 90-100% even
[10:36] <flaccid> i'll show you waht i mean
[10:36] <Healot> ricardo: f yourself then
[10:37] <flaccid> macd: http://pastebin.ca/93217 for the top thing
[10:37] <ricardo> im kinda new with linux....
[10:37] <jaffa> So what do you guyz think about Vmware
[10:37] <ricardo> whats the philosophy behind that!!!
[10:38] <diego_cl> who wants to help me?  i monted a ntfs disk and i cant see it because its locked
[10:38] <intelikey> ricardo behind what ?
[10:38] <ricardo> not being able to undelete files at all...
[10:38] <ibert> girls & guys: I maybe will come to kubuntu from gentoo :-)
[10:38] <ricardo> intelikey: whats the garbage bin for then??
[10:38] <macd> you can ricardo as long as your not ina  console and and use rm
[10:39] <jaffa> rite click on you desktop link to device the device you want and then set your permisions and bam
[10:39] <macd> the same way in windows if your at command prompt and type del filename it doesnt go in recylce bin.
[10:39] <ricardo> macd: but i used krusader....not the terminal..;
[10:39] <macd> thats a file manager.
[10:40] <ricardo> macd: so?
[10:40] <diego_cl> i mounted a ntfs disk and I cant explore it because its locked... how can I open it?
[10:40] <macd> use right click delete, or konquerer and it will go into the trashcan.
[10:40] <ironfroggy> what is 'bterm'?
[10:40] <paolo> Hi! Can someone help me?
[10:40] <intelikey> it's a simple choice of having file fragmentation or having non-recoverable deletions.      the trash can works.   but if you rm blah in the terminal  or select delete rather than move to trash in a gui app  then you don't use the trash system at all.
[10:40] <wolfmanz> what do i need to get to play .AVI files ?
[10:40] <flaccid> macd: and here is the dmesg output: http://pastebin.ca/93220
[10:41] <intelikey> wolfmanz vlc
[10:41] <jaffa> has anyone here used Mount iso?
[10:41] <ricardo> so I have to put "move to trash" in konqueror?
[10:41] <ricardo> sorry konqueror
[10:41] <wolfmanz> is that something i can get from the adept manager?
[10:41] <intelikey> wolfmanz or follow the !restriced formats links
[10:41] <macd> correct ricardo
[10:41] <Healot> mount -t iso9660 -o lo mountpoint filename
[10:42] <macd> flaccid: I dont see anything out of the ordinary
[10:42] <jaffa> as in where you rite click on the iso and then click on action then mount
[10:42] <intelikey> ricardo no it's already there.
[10:42] <macd> maybee use dpkg to reinstall the kernel-686
[10:42] <macd> linux-686 rather.
[10:42] <intelikey> you have to use it.
[10:42] <ricardo> krusader was set to "MOVE TO TRASH"
[10:42] <flaccid> macd: sorry what command would that be, i'm a convert from redhat
[10:42] <intelikey> then open the trash app
[10:43] <intelikey> or have you emptied the trash sense the deletions ?
[10:44] <macd> flaccid 'sudo dpkg -reinstall linux-686' outta work
[10:44] <jaffa> i wanr to no how to configure mount-iso-0.9.1
[10:45] <jaffa> sorry *want
[10:45] <flaccid> i get dpkg: conflicting actions --control and --remove
[10:45] <ricardo> intelikey: no I havent empty the trash.....thats why I was so pissed off!
[10:45] <macd> flaccid: I thought that was it, try man dpkg ;)
[10:46] <intelikey> macd and the meda package linux-686 wont change the kernel will it ?     linux-image-686  maybe ???
[10:46] <ricardo> hey guys you wont believe what happened to me!!!!!!!
[10:46] <jaffa> no
[10:46] <macd> according to the forumn the i686 kernel has SMP code in it but depends on options passed to grub to actualy load that code.
[10:47] <ricardo> i had a latex file with over 5 hours of work in it.
[10:47] <ricardo> this morning i deleted it by error
[10:47] <ricardo> after that all the problem i've been telling you about trying to recover...
[10:47] <intelikey> linux-image-`uname -r`-686
[10:47] <ricardo> suddenly I realised that kile was still opened and guess what.....
[10:48] <intelikey> macd yup
[10:48] <ricardo> a copy of the file was there!!!!!!!!!!
[10:48] <ricardo> I am a happy person again!
[10:48] <flaccid> i can't find a reinstall option in man dpkg
[10:49] <intelikey> flaccid -i --force-all
[10:49] <macd> thats it force!
[10:49] <macd> Im really used to using aptitude rather than dpkg
[10:50] <macd> and synaptic has me spoiled.
[10:50] <intelikey> they are just front-ends to dpkg
[10:50] <macd> uh huh
[10:50] <flaccid> woa i'm confused, so whats the command to reinstall the kernel
[10:50] <macd> and I use the h-e-double hockey sticks out of them
[10:51] <flaccid> dpkg -i --force-all -reinstall linux-686 ?
[10:51] <macd> minus the -reinstall.
[10:52] <jaffa> so just if anyone wants to no to solve my problem of mounting what ever i want wen ever i want i installed vmware then vm windows the alcohol then mounted wot i wanted then in Kubuntu i linke a dive to the shared Vertiual rom on my vm windows and bam it worked
[10:52] <intelikey> flaccid "sudo dpkg -i --force-all linux-image-`uname -r`-686.deb"    it has to be the full path and file name for dpkg.
[10:52] <flaccid> ok got it thanks
[10:52] <intelikey> that example assumes that the file is in $PWD
[10:52] <flaccid> i get this but  dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.15-26-686-686.deb (--install):
[10:52] <flaccid>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[10:53] <flaccid> then it freezes..
[10:53] <macd> take the -686 off :P
[10:53] <intelikey> :)
[10:53] <intelikey> ok
[10:53] <flaccid> then i get dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.15-26-686.deb (--install):
[10:54] <intelikey> what was the error ?
[10:54] <flaccid>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-2.6.15-26-686.deb
[10:54] <wolfmanz> How do i get xmms to stop loading up every time i want to see the files on a drive?
[10:54] <flaccid> do i have to d/l the package?
[10:54] <intelikey> yes
[10:55] <flaccid> ok do they by http?
[10:55] <intelikey> apt-get has a -download only switch
[10:55] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! Guys..
[10:56] <intelikey> don't know it off the top of my head and it would do you more good to look it up than it will for me to look it up for you.
[10:57] <intelikey> actually it will do me more good that way also....  :)
[10:57] <Healot> don't you know how to "cd", flaccid?
[10:57] <flaccid> cool. would this work sudo apt-get -d install linux-image-`uname -r`.deb or should it just be linux-image
[10:57] <macd> I usualy just goto packages.ubuntu.com then download em from there
[10:57] <intelikey> no.  drop the .deb
[10:57] <flaccid> Healot: err thats not ubuntu like
[10:58] <wolfmanz> How do i get xmms to stop loading up every time i want to see the files on a drive?
[10:58] <intelikey> use ls ?
[10:58] <intelikey> see the files 'where' ?
[10:58] <intelikey> in some gui app ?
[10:58] <macd> wolfmanz: did you set xmms as your default media player ? or maybee set it as the method for previewing files?
[10:59] <flaccid> see now apt-get goes slow/freezes...
[10:59] <flaccid> where can i get this .deb by http?
[10:59] <StupidMe> Is there a way to alter the Xorg.conf for my Kubuntu installation from the LiveCD?
[10:59] <intelikey> flaccid it will dl to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:00] <StupidMe> I probably messed something up there, now X won't start anymore
[11:00] <StupidMe> I booted from the LiveCD now
[11:00] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, Yes ! you can..
[11:00] <intelikey> flaccid and you can dl it in a browser or with wget   the  http://ubuntu.com  has the linky thingy
[11:00] <StupidMe> Do I have to mount hda1 for that?
[11:00] <StupidMe> If so, how do I do that?
[11:00] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, Yes !
[11:01] <flaccid> heh i can't find any link on the ubuntu site
[11:01] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, with the command mount..
[11:01] <intelikey> StupidMe if /dev/hda1 is where linux lives.    sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> hi ?:)
[11:02] <StupidMe> And now I can do "sudo kate /etc/X11/Xorg.conf" in the console?!!?
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, yes !
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> ok :)
[11:02] <flaccid> well sudo apt-get -d install linux-image-`uname -r stil outputs linux-image-2.6.15-26-686 is already the newest version.
[11:03] <intelikey> not in a console unless you attach kate to an Xserver  but in a terminal  yes.
[11:03] <wolfmanz> macd i'm not sure i thought i had it set to load only on mp3 so i'm not sure why its comming up when i goto see files on a drive
[11:03] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, no no ! not.. sudo kate /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[11:03] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, sudo kate /where/it/is/mounted/etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[11:03] <StupidMe> so it would be /hda1/ect/X11...
[11:03] <intelikey> flaccid look and see if it's in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:04] <intelikey> StupidMe no
[11:04] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, yes, if so..
[11:04] <intelikey> not the device prefix   the mount point prefix.
[11:04] <StupidMe> Which is?
[11:04] <flaccid> i gues sit is
[11:04] <|lostbyte|> yes.
[11:04] <Jack1> hi
[11:04] <intelikey> StupidMe /mnt/  in the example i gave ^
[11:04] <StupidMe> ah, ok
[11:05] <flaccid> this is what is there linux-image-2.6.15-26-686_2.6.15-26.44_i386.deb linux-image-686_2.6.15.24_i386.deb
[11:05] <Jack1> how can i setup a splashscreen for a program? in system settings appearance there is this option not anymore
[11:05] <flaccid> which is wierd...
[11:05] <StupidMe> that's not working
[11:05] <flaccid> linux-image-2.6.15-26-686_2.6.15-26.44_i386.deb wtf?
[11:05] <StupidMe> Maybe it's something with Kate though, is there another editor on the LiveCD?
[11:05] <intelikey> flaccid sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.15-26-686_2.6.15-26.44_i386.deb
[11:06] <larson9999> can someone point me to a doc that explains how flash drives work in kubuntu?  mine automount just fine and i have read/write access.  but there is no entry in fstab like there was in mandriva so i'd like to read about how they work.  also, someone on a mailing list i belong to is asking about the fstab entry.  i looked at mine but didn't have any :)
[11:06] <flaccid> ty
[11:06] <flaccid> if this kernel has some issue, should i rollback to old kernel?
[11:06] <flaccid> some=same
[11:07] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, Look into the menu..
[11:07] <intelikey> flaccid have you read the posting on the forums about smp and the latest kernels   http://forum.ubuntu.com   maybe ?
[11:07] <flaccid> i'll read now :)
[11:08] <macd> flaccid: it wont go away, so you can just select in it grub, plus Ive never seen it go wrong
[11:08] <flaccid> ok
[11:08] <macd> wolfmanz: well then your logical course of action is to first undo what youve done.
[11:08] <macd> yeah intelikey I rad it :P
[11:08] <macd> read*
[11:08] <flaccid> forum.ubuntu.com seems to not be in dns
[11:09] <macd> ubuntuforums.org*
[11:09] <intelikey> drop the forum and use the link
[11:09] <flaccid> is that different to http://www.ubuntu.com/community/forums ?
[11:09] <flaccid> ah its the same
[11:09] <|lostbyte|> Any one know why ktorrent takes a lot of processing power ?
[11:09] <wolfmanz> macd i think if i knew what caused it i would have allready revesrsed it
[11:09] <intelikey> nope.  just tried to reverse nds it.
[11:09] <StupidMe> What about a different approach... It's booting fine so far from the harddrive, only X won't start...
[11:09] <intelikey> i mean no it's not different.
[11:10] <macd> wolfmanz: you just said you made xmms default for mp3,undo that.
[11:10] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, ctrl + Alt + F1
[11:10] <StupidMe> Is there a way to boot without trying to start X?
[11:10] <intelikey> StupidMe login into the console and do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:10] <flaccid> heh now i just need to find which actual forum in there to look in
[11:10] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, i think your inittab does that..
[11:11] <sonotos> hi
[11:11] <StupidMe> Let me describe the boot process... I see the Kubuntu logo, and it tells me what it does, everything successful
[11:11] <StupidMe> When it's through, I see the Kubunut logo again, with the progress bar "reset". And that's where it stops
[11:12] <intelikey> |lostbyte| nope.  inittab has nothing (dirrectly) to do with whether kdm starts or not at boot time.
[11:12] <Jack1> hi guys
[11:12] <macd> intelikey: have you played with the initrg parrallel loading of services yet?
[11:12] <StupidMe> The last thing I did was commenting out some stuff in the Xorg.conf
[11:12] <Jack1> how could i install a splashscreen for kontact eg?
[11:12] <intelikey> macd initrg ?
[11:13] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, You mean crash ?
[11:13] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, ctrl + Alt + F1
[11:13] <macd> its a initng replacement to load multiple things at once duroing boot rather than loading one then another then another and so on
[11:13] <StupidMe> If I pressed Ctrl-Alt-F1 at that time, would that bring me to a terminal?
[11:13] <macd> StupidMe: yes.
[11:13] <sonotos> i have a little problem with the language in some kde apps.  Most of my apps are in german , but some stay english despite off installing kde-i18n-de and koffice-i18n-de. The apps are kdevelop und quanta. did i forgot a package?
[11:13] <Healot> StupidMe: it will make a call to your nearest McD
[11:14] <macd> sonotos: Id uninstall the other locales, if you havent already done so.
[11:14] <macd> that or those apps were compiled against ONLY the other locales
[11:14] <macd> its a glibc thing ya know
[11:15] <sonotos> i have just the german locals
[11:15] <StupidMe> That was a joke I didn't quite get, Healot
[11:15] <macd> sonotos: hmm, then Im fresh out of ideas ;) sorry.
[11:15] <intelikey> macd no i haven't.   but i only load about five things so it wouldn't help me any.     sounds a lot like they added  &  on the link calls.  /etc/init.d/rc   saying   for this in ../rc`runlevel`.d ;do $this & ;done
[11:16] <flaccid> how can you turn acpi off in the kernel so no acpi support at all on boot
[11:16] <sonotos> ok np, thx
[11:16] <Healot> add the line "acpi=off" to your kernel entry in menu.lst
[11:16] <macd> intelikey: pretty close to that yes
[11:16] <macd> but you really only load 5 things :P
[11:16] <intelikey> yeah
[11:17] <macd> so your init.d only has 5 things?
[11:17] <macd> rather rc2.d etc only has 5?
[11:17] <intelikey> the uncompressing linux line is only about half way up my screen when the boot prompt appears
[11:17] <macd> nice
[11:17] <flaccid> ok cool thanks Healot
[11:17] <flaccid> there is a bug/issue with phonenix bios and this kernel
[11:17] <flaccid> it sux..
[11:17] <macd> Ive gotten to about 5 or 7 seconds from post now
[11:18] <macd> and Im sitting at kdm login
[11:18] <flaccid> i'v hardwired the cpu and case fans
[11:18] <macd> oh wow
[11:18] <wolfmanz> i macd xmms is got it self setup to be first in line on nearly every file type how do i undo that?
[11:18] <macd> not that its a bad idea, cause it doesnt matter, but the smart cpu fan is usualy a good idea, quieter etc etc
[11:18] <macd> wolfmanz: file associations.
[11:19] <flaccid> smart cpu fan?
[11:19] <macd> yes they speed up and slow down according to cpu temps, handled by acpi _I think_
[11:19] <intelikey> flaccid only runs when the temp goes up
[11:19] <flaccid> yeah but thats with acpi or apm or whatever, can't do it coz of the phoneix bios issue
[11:20] <flaccid> ibm are shite as well..
[11:20] <intelikey> or in some cases don't run even when the temp goes up...  hehhe
[11:21] <flaccid> this box is in a corner so noise aint an issue. it used to be a win2k server
[11:21] <flaccid> converted it to kubuntu and have had these issues
[11:21] <flaccid> like its taking so long to do stuff on it while this dpkg is doing stuff
[11:21] <macd> theres no bios patch? or upgrade?
[11:21] <flaccid> its taking nearly 2mins to open menu.lst in joe
[11:21] <flaccid> there is but i don't know how to implement it
[11:21] <intelikey> i've often wondered if i could spray some kind of sealent on this board that would water proof it so i could use this cooling chip.  i could sub-zero my cpu.....
[11:22] <wolfmanz> macd i cant remove it should i just uninstall xmms?
[11:22] <macd> if you want, but I feel thats gonna cause errors like youve never seen before.
[11:22] <intelikey> wolfmanz that should work
[11:22] <wolfmanz> lol
[11:22] <intelikey> macd i don't think so
[11:23] <macd> Im thinking hell get cannot load xmms errors
[11:23] <intelikey> it should remove it from the prefered apps listings
[11:23] <macd> ehh true true
[11:24] <intelikey> i saw amerok one time,  and uninstalled it to keep from seeing it again....
[11:24] <macd> so tell me intelikey how is it in houston having all our old criminals there?
[11:24] <intelikey> macd i'd have to call someone in that state to answer that....
[11:24] <flaccid> macd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1243748
[11:24] <wolfmanz> lol well that didnt work now it cant find xmms when i hit the drive icon lol
[11:25] <intelikey> wolfmanz reset x
[11:25] <flaccid> and the patch: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org/msg02187.html
[11:25] <wolfmanz> how do i reset it?
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Thanks guys
[11:25] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:25] <intelikey> or log out
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Note to self, edit one thing at a time...
[11:26] <flaccid> macd: the actual patch http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org/msg02068.html
[11:26] <macd> flaccid: and youve tried that?
[11:26] <flaccid> i don't know how to do this patch
[11:26] <macd> ahh
[11:26] <flaccid> well i'm doing the acpi=off now
[11:26] <macd> yeah I suggest you read the docs that deal with kernel recompile and building debs on ubuntu site.
[11:26] <flaccid> see that form link, looks like that guy had the 'overheating' as well
[11:26] <macd> yes passing that to grub should help
[11:26] <wolfmanz> ok the reset didnt fix it still get the error
[11:26] <flaccid> forum link i mean
[11:27] <macd> yeah hardwiring your fan prevented that from happening
[11:27] <flaccid> well i thought it did, but its still similar symptoms
[11:27] <macd> I actualy fried a ibm laptop with the early days of lm_sensors
[11:27] <flaccid> maybe it f*ked the cpu
[11:27] <macd> flaccid: it could be running very hot, that would cause speed issues
[11:28] <flaccid> macd: yeah but its not running hot i checked. i don't know how i can probe to get cpu/mb temp...
[11:28] <helpmeee> I have a lagging sound issue in quake3.. does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:28] <flaccid> can i just put acpi=off anywhere in menu.lst?
[11:28] <intelikey> use oss maybe
[11:28] <macd> flaccid: go read the sensorsd or lm_sensors howto
[11:29] <macd> flaccid: wherever the other kernel options are in grub, yes.
[11:29] <helpmeee> noone?
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> flaccid: Reboot and go to the BIOS, those are the most accurate values... Although it will be cooled down a little once you get there
[11:29] <macd> so its the one that sais default=0 then youd put it on that line.
[11:29] <macd> need a example flaccid?
[11:30] <flaccid> MilhousePunkRock: helps if the bios has cpu temp
[11:30] <flaccid> yeah i think i need an example
[11:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Most modern BIOSes have...
[11:30] <macd> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash  acpi=off
[11:30] <macd> that should shed some light
[11:30] <flaccid> i wouldn't call phoenix a modern bios :)
[11:30] <diego_cl> which is the easiest way to get mp3 support ?!!?
[11:30] <MilhousePunkRock> !mp3
[11:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:31] <flaccid> ah its kernel boot option , i get it
[11:31] <intelikey> diego_cl prolly install vlc
[11:31] <intelikey> !vlc
[11:31] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:31] <diego_cl> hmm goooood
[11:31] <intelikey> what the hell is that ?
[11:32] <diego_cl> and how i install vlc ?
[11:32] <diego_cl> *how do i install vlc
[11:32] <intelikey> diego_cl sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:33] <diego_cl> GNU is fuckin amazig
[11:33] <wolfmanz> so anyone got any ideas on how to reverse this xmms stuff?
[11:33] <diego_cl> why not ?
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> It's rather rudimentary when it comes to audio
[11:33] <intelikey> that list of crap up there that ubuotu puked out   used to be a good info node on vlc
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> At least from my experience
[11:33] <macd> diego_cl: 'sudo apt-get install vlc' in console will install vlc.
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Amarok is fine for mp3, you just need the codecs AFAIK
[11:33] <flaccid> heh still installing kernel..
[11:34] <diego_cl> u say that other codecs sounds better ?
[11:34] <macd> to bad amarok dies.
[11:34] <flaccid> and i'm going to have to hook a monitor to it
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Does it, macd?
[11:34] <macd> it does here
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> I am pretty sure an mp3 sounds alike no matter what player you use, diego_cl
[11:34] <macd> of course I use media on a NFS share and store my catalog on a mysql server on the lan.
[11:34] <macd> so the player doesnt get to use anything local
[11:35] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock you can use the codecs with vlc also but i've never needed them.     and amerok is a winamp wanabe  so i don't like it.
[11:35] <macd> it just stops playing responding and then I have to kill the PID
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I determine what screwed up my Xorg.conf earlier?
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> lol intelikey
[11:35] <macd> MilhousePunkRock: try looking at your /var/log/X11/Xorg.0.log
[11:35] <macd> then grep is for EE
[11:35] <diego_cl> wich is the way to uninstall programs?
[11:36] <macd>  so 'cat /var/log/X11/Xorg.0.log | grep EE'
[11:36] <intelikey> apt-get remove <blah>
[11:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Easiest is probably in adept, diego_cl
[11:36] <diego_cl> hahaha
[11:36] <macd> unless you cant type that fast :P
[11:36] <macd> then CLI is my tool of choice.
[11:37] <Healot> you will adapt to adept in no time
[11:37] <intelikey> Healot it must be something you assemalated.....
[11:38] <intelikey> !kpackage
[11:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about kpackage - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:38] <intelikey> !info kpackage
[11:38] <ubotu> kpackage: KDE package management tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 670 kB, installed size 1356 kB
[11:39] <diego_cl> kpackage is for installing packages without the konsole ?
[11:40] <intelikey> !adept
[11:40] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:40] <intelikey> !info adept
[11:40] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[11:40] <Healot> kde prefer adept nowadays
[11:40] <intelikey> !info synaptic
[11:40] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.57.8ubuntu11 (dapper), package size 1011 kB, installed size 5384 kB
[11:40] <intelikey> !synaptic
[11:40] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:41] <intelikey> and they are all just frontends to dpkg
[11:41] <intelikey> so i just use dpkg.    specally sense i broke apt...
[11:42] <h3sp4wn> Front ends to apt which is a front end to dpkg
[11:43] <noaXess> .. have a irc question.. how can i search over command a special irc channel on freenode?
[11:43] <intelikey> i guess i could remove apt  seeing it's broke anyway.   but i like apt-cache.
[11:44] <intelikey> decisions decisions....
[11:45] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I restart X?
[11:45] <noaXess> MilhousePunkRock, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Why not just reinstall apt with dpkg ?
[11:46] <Healot> you can either pop a virtual terminal then type "/etc/init.d/(k/g)dm" or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[11:46] <aegeanlinux> I agree, my Dad thinks that it is funny too.
[11:46] <aegeanlinux> woops, wrong room
[11:47] <aegeanlinux>  /disregard
 hahaha </sarcasm>
[11:47] <intelikey> h3sp4wn that wont fix it.
[11:47] <intelikey> it's the dep's that are hosed.
[11:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx noaXess
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: By using dpkg --force ?
[11:48] <intelikey> yeah,  apt keeps wanting to install perl-base
[11:48] <intelikey> and i'm not going to let it.
[11:49] <intelikey> there is no perl  nor python on this system now.  and that's the way it will stay.
[11:50] <MilhousePunkRock> I always get some error messages when I start a GUI application (e.g. Kate) from the command line
[11:50] <MilhousePunkRock> I googled the cause, some Wacom tablet drivers in the xorg.conf
[11:50] <intelikey> so apt is borked
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: apt uses perl for some stuff
[11:50] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock so remove it.
[11:51] <intelikey> h3sp4wn not on this box it don't    :)
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> I did that, but then X didn't work no more, if you remember StupidMe from some minutes ago
[11:51] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Hence why it is not working
[11:51] <intelikey> and your point is ???
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> is there a "xserver.conf" or something?
[11:52] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: There is no point whatsoever in what you are doing
[11:52] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock no.  just the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:53] <intelikey> h3sp4wn sure there is.   perl commands don't run here.
[11:53] <MilhousePunkRock> The error is this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:53] <MilhousePunkRock> And google gives me the following
[11:53] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock yeah i know the problem.
[11:54] <MilhousePunkRock> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212025
[11:54] <intelikey> you need to comment out or remove the listing for the "inputdevice" that describs wacom
[11:54] <MilhousePunkRock> It's not that Kate or whatever won't start, but I get the same when I try to start wpa_gui, and that is _not_ working
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> !info wpagui
[11:55] <ubotu> wpagui: GUI for wpa_supplicant. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 78 kB, installed size 204 kB
[11:57] <aegeanlinux> !info kdebase
[11:57] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 38 kB, installed size 76 kB
[11:57] <markc> intelikey> did you say you don't have perl or python installed ?
[11:57] <intelikey> correct
[11:58] <markc> intelikey> I'd also like to do this... is there anything special you've done to block them ?
[11:58] <intelikey> yep.  it's a pain.   unless you like the console and doing things by hand don't try it.
[11:59] <markc> intelikey> I love the console :)
[11:59] <markc> intelikey> I also happen to like kde and most fo that requires python, and probably perl, let alone other packages
[11:59] <intelikey> you can sudo apt-get remove --purge perl-base      and tell it 'Yes, do as I say!'
[12:00] <intelikey> the there are just a very few remaining perl libs and a python module or two...   dpkg -l | grep blah to find them.
[12:00] <intelikey> then there ^
[12:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to restart X _and_ save the current session?
[12:02] <intelikey> log out. then reset X
[12:02] <markc> intelikey> I've tried, or asttempted, to do that a couple of times in the past but the list of packages that are to be removed is too extensive... so I've ended up just trimming down perl/python support packages
[12:02] <intelikey> markc yeah it even takes useradd and passwd with it.
[12:03] <markc> intelikey> so you wear that and live without base packages like that ?
[12:04] <intelikey> sure.    i have ran a system with no "login" access of any kind...
[12:04] <markc> intelikey> I do without useradd but passwd is pretty basic... hmm, maybe not as I use virtual users in MySQL
[12:05] <markc> markc> yeah, same here, just root and one sinlge non-root user called admin
[12:05] <markc> oops
[12:05] <markc> intelikey> once they are set up I guess I could do without either of them... but I'm not sure about all the kde packages that would get removed
[12:07] <markc> intelikey> so what do you rely on for scripting, just bash ?
[12:07] <intelikey> with no getty/mingetty you have to setup init to open a console for you but that's not an issue as for just removing perl and python.    and yeah perl will take x with it.  i don'k know a way around that yet.    but when you can web browse email audio/vidio all from the console, why use X ?
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> And now on the WPA-PSK encryption... Is someone familiar with that?
[12:08] <intelikey> yeah bash   and the apps like cut grep less fold and so forth
[12:08] <hari> hello friends :), whenever i insert a cd into my drive a cd icon appears on the desktop with the name "Blank CD-R" when i double click it says "Malformed URL", I am sure that the cd is not blank. what may be the problem?
[12:09] <markc> intelikey> cool, I didn't think there'd be anyone else around as crazy as me :) most folks seem to use perl/python so any suggestion otherwise is generally ridiculed.. with a vengeance!
[12:10] <intelikey> yeah
[12:11] <flaccid> rightio i rebooted with acpi off, but it still comes up in dmesg
[12:11] <intelikey> and that's really the only thing i have against python.  the fact that almost everything *ubuntu specific is writen in python,   so i dislike it just on general principal.
[12:11] <flaccid> how can i confirm if acpi off or on?
[12:12] <intelikey> flaccid i'd think if there is a process like " 22 ?        S<     0:00 [kacpid] "  then it's on....
[12:13] <intelikey> ps -A x
[12:13] <flaccid> yeah it looks like its on
[12:13] <intelikey> ps -A x | grep acpi
[12:13] <flaccid> wonder why
[12:13] <flaccid> i used kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash acpi=off
[12:14] <intelikey> the initramfs.img prolly started it for you.
[12:14] <markc> intelikey> yeah... gentoo is worse otherwise I would be using it, and was up till recently... yesterday I tried archlinux for exactly this reason, to get away from perl/python dependencies as its pacman package manager is so sensibly C based
[12:14] <flaccid> hectic! dang what to do now
[12:14] <flaccid> its still slow after the reboot
[12:15] <intelikey> markc i was a bit surprised that hoary's version of apt doesn't depend on either.
[12:15] <intelikey> and works without them....
[12:16] <markc> intelikey> really!... and then they went and blew it :)
[12:16] <intelikey> yup
[12:17] <markc> intelikey> seeing that da man is a pythoin head there is no hope for *buntu, in this regard... great on a lot of other levels though
[12:17] <flaccid> so how can i ensure that acpi isn't loaded?
[12:17] <cox377> I;m trying to set up a remote printer under kubuntu
[12:17] <cox377> "Printer" isnt undr system settings
[12:17] <cox377> anyone got any ideas?
[12:17] <cox377> !printer
[12:17] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:20] <intelikey> markc; yeah.   imo they did; as you say "blew it".   and the dapper livecd installer is as brain dead as they come.     i'm like 'why not just have it dd /dev/cdrom /dev/hda  and be done with it.....'    i mean it give a total of what three options language, timezone(and that one is a joke), and partition(another joke. and a bad one at that).
[12:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Can someone confirm that the WPA passphrase on Linux is not allowed to have a &symbol in it?
[12:21] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock with or without \  ?
[12:21] <MilhousePunkRock> there is no \ in it, but the 3rd character is a &
[12:22] <diego_cl> what happends in kubuntu when pressing control+alt+delete  ?!?!?!
[12:22] <MilhousePunkRock> And when I do "sudo wpa_passphrase <ESSID> <passphrase
[12:22] <MilhousePunkRock> >
[12:22] <MilhousePunkRock> it only exepts the chars before the &
[12:22] <intelikey> the reason i asked,  you might not be able to type in & but \& might work.... i really can't say.
[12:23] <MilhousePunkRock> I am not typing 63 weirdo characters, I copied and pasted it
[12:23] <intelikey> yeah if it's on the command line,  you have to comment it   \&
[12:23] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, let me try that
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> no luck
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> so I have to take that & out?
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Any other characters that might give me trouble?
[12:25] <markc> intelikey> even just rsync --exclude=/proc etc the live system, it's already worked out the hardware to run on
[12:25] <intelikey> without the \ the shell reads & as a newline  or at least a new command.    i.e.   sleep 10 & echo sleeping ;fg
[12:25] <MilhousePunkRock> no way to tell the shell to take the key "as is"?
[12:26] <MilhousePunkRock> I'd rather use wpa_gui anyway, but that is not working
[12:26] <diego_cl> HOW CAN I SHARE MI INTERNET CONNECTION LIKE I DO WHEN BOOTING ON WINDOWS XP ? !!? !? ! !? !?
[12:26] <intelikey> markc yeah  but i kinda like more options,  not a "save me from myself" approach.      'if you make it fool-proof, they'll just make a better fool'
[12:27] <MilhousePunkRock> No need to shout, diego_cl
[12:27] <diego_cl> sorry
[12:27] <diego_cl> can you help me ?
[12:27] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock if it cant ask for the passwork then prolly not.   you already tried the propper way.  \&
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: When I make it \&, it complains the key has to be 8..63 characters
[12:28] <intelikey> quote it ?
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> passwork (password I assume) as in PSK?
[12:28] <intelikey> yeah typo
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> the key itself contains quotes, i doubt that will work
[12:29] <intelikey> ummm hmm
[12:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Where do you live, intelikey? I don't want you to come over here and break into my maximum security WLAN because you know the key
[12:29] <intelikey> single or dubble quotes ?
[12:29] <MilhousePunkRock> "
[12:30] <intelikey> single quote it
[12:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Will try
[12:30] <MilhousePunkRock> ' or  or ` ?
[12:30] <intelikey> yeah
[12:30] <intelikey> '
[12:30] <intelikey> the othere is executable
[12:31] <intelikey> echo `uname -r`
[12:31] <intelikey> same as
[12:31] <intelikey> uname -r
[12:31] <MilhousePunkRock> rgr
[12:31] <intelikey> echo 'uname -r'
[12:31] <intelikey> prints out  uname -r
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> It says "No such file or directory" now
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> And: reading passphrase from stdin
[12:33] <intelikey> you did use ' ?
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> i used `
[12:33] <intelikey> please see above ^
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> so i have to use '
[12:34] <intelikey> yes
[12:34] <intelikey> assuming there are none of them in the code
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> It still says "reading passphrase from stdin"
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> since it says "no such file or directory"
[12:36] <MilhousePunkRock> what about making the shell read the pass from .txt file I have it in?
[12:36] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock just a thought.   if possable (man for a switch)
[12:36] <intelikey> that's what i was typing  ^
[12:37] <intelikey> password file.  and let it cat that.
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> i have it on my usb-thumbdrive as wpa.txt
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> how do i redirect it there?
[12:37] <intelikey> man wpa ?
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> that would be system:/media/sda1/wpa.txt
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> I am already trying to follow a HowTo
[12:38] <intelikey> yes that's probably the mountpoint  assuming it's in the root dir of that drive.
[12:39] <MilhousePunkRock> It tells me to do "sudo wpa_passphrase <ESSID> <key>
[12:39] <MilhousePunkRock> it is
[12:39] <MilhousePunkRock> goddamn, the heat here is really getting to my head...
[12:39] <intelikey> yeah it's hot.
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> The HowTo is here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/VerschlCsselung
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> It's in German though
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> "http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/VerschlCsselung"
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> lol it won't let me write the URL
[12:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Why did they have to use a "" in the adress anyway
[12:42] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock i'm going to pass you off to the next ratchet jawed geek...  gooday and peace.
[12:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Noooooooo, intelikey
[12:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Have a nice day anyway...
[12:42] <intelikey> yeah.  you too
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> So who's gonna volunteer to be the "next ratchet jawed geek"?
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> Are you trying to use wpa_supplicant with the passphrase on a usbdrive ?
[12:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Until now I am trying to execute "sudo wpa_passphrase <ESSID> <key>
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> And you are using wpa ?
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> the problem is, the 3rd character of the key is a & which makes the shell believe it ends there
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> yes
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> and you have tried \&
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> yes, didn't work
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> i also tried '63weirdcharacters' and `63weirdcharacters`
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> we came up with the idea to make wpa_passphrase read the key from the txt-file
[12:47] <MilhousePunkRock> but intelikey left...
[12:47] <larson9999> can you use hex instead of ascii?
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> If you use 'passphrase' it works for me
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> wpa_passphrase myssid 'pass&phrase' works
[12:48] <h3sp4wn> Do you really want it on the thumb drive the key ?
[12:48] <MilhousePunkRock> The HowTo I am following says: sudo wpa_passphrase <SSID> <WPA key>
[12:48] <MilhousePunkRock> I assumed that WPA key would have to be the 63chars
[12:49] <h3sp4wn> The 63 chars are generated from any passphrase you chose
[12:49] <MilhousePunkRock> I have it there cause I set up the WPA on my girlfriend's WinXP notebook first, and I was too lazy to type in that long key blindly
[12:50] <h3sp4wn> c47b0aad72ad1c39323f8b4da6840fa3c7e3ba9598c6932c0c7b95dbb9c13fad (all the wpa keys once generated look like that)
[12:50] <MilhousePunkRock> I might have gotten something wrong here then
[12:50] <MilhousePunkRock> That looks like a HEX key to me...
[12:50] <h3sp4wn> That is generated from the passphrase
[12:50] <Reliant> I'm getting an odd sound problem. Some of my MP3s in Amarok play fine, and some won't play at all (Amarok just sits there doing nothing). Also, Google video works fine, but Youtube produces no sound. I don't know when the former problem started happening, but the latter problem just started last night
[12:51] <MilhousePunkRock> so WPA key is _not_ the key I entered into the router and the WinXP laptop?
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> psk="test&ssidbghdfhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" (that is the one you entered on the laptop)
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> psk=c47b0aad72ad1c39323f8b4da6840fa3c7e3ba9598c6932c0c7b95dbb9c13fad
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> (one is in hex one in ascii I think)
[12:54] <jknotzke> Hi
[12:54] <jknotzke> is there an FAQ on installing firefox ?
[12:54] <jknotzke> i can't get it to install
[12:54] <jknotzke> and why didn't kubuntu come with firefox already installed ?
[12:54] <MilhousePunkRock> The easiest way is probably adept, jknotzke
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: if psk="quoted" then that is the key you put in on the router
[12:55] <jknotzke> firefox is greyed out in adept
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: if psk=hexstring then that is psk="quoted" converted to hex with wpa_passphrase
[12:56] <MilhousePunkRock> The HowTo I am following says: sudo wpa_passphrase <SSID> <WPA key> to create a encrypted psk
[12:56] <shampoo> and trying to install from mozilla's binaries puts me into dependancy hell
[12:56] <shampoo> firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> did you try "apt-get intall firefox" shampoo?
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> install that is, of course
[12:57] <h3sp4wn> shampoo: Just use the binarys and untar them into /opt
[12:57] <shampoo> neither works
[12:57] <shampoo> when I dump into opt
[12:58] <shampoo> i get the dependancy error
[12:58] <shampoo> when installing from apt-get
[12:58] <shampoo> I get another dependency error
[12:58] <flaccid> apt-get install jessica-alba
[12:58] <shampoo> firefox: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but it is not installable
[12:58] <flaccid> damn i need to update my sources list
[12:58] <shampoo> Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I just checked, the wpa_supplicant.conf is empty so far
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I just checked, the wpa_supplicant.conf is empty so far, h3sp4wn
[01:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Can't I just put the stuff in there manually and skip that step with wpa_passphrase, h3sp4wn?
[01:03] <Reliant> wee, found the post on the ubuntu forums that fixed my youtube sound :)
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> psk="yourfulllong key"
[01:04] <KDEfanboy> when i move the mouse over a link in konqueror, rather than a hand icon showing the link is clickable, a text cursor icon appears over the link instead. anyone know what is going on?
[01:04] <helpmeee> in amaroK my mp3 files dont play :( how do I get them to?
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Have you tried wpagui ?
[01:05] <MilhousePunkRock> wpa_gui does not work, it always tries to ping something with a timeout
[01:06] <MilhousePunkRock> There are four different approaches in the HowTo, I will try wifi-radar now
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> and you have started wpa_supplicant (i.e with sudo wpa_supplicant -B)
[01:06] <MilhousePunkRock> probably not
[01:06] <KDEfanboy> !mp3
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[01:07] <h3sp4wn> I think it has to be running for wpa_gui to work
[01:08] <MilhousePunkRock> the wpa_supplicant.conf is the key problem
[01:08] <Tommy2k4> why i try to open kate from konsole it says couldnt connect to X server
[01:08] <MilhousePunkRock> either it's not there, or it doesn't like that it's empty
[01:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Tommy2k4: Try commenting out all the WACOM crap in your xorg.conf
[01:10] <h3sp4wn>  /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (is the best documentation on setting up wpa_supplicant - from /etc/network/interfaces)
[01:11] <MilhousePunkRock> I did "sudo touch /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf", but it's not there
[01:11] <Tommy2k4> thats gonna be difficult without kate :(
[01:11] <ubuntu> :D
[01:12] <ubuntu> i'm a noob :P
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: You don't need to have a wpa_supplicant.conf (if you set it up from /etc/network/interfaces)
[01:12] <MilhousePunkRock> I did : sudo wpa_supplicant -Dmadwifi -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:12] <MilhousePunkRock> And nothing much is happening
[01:12] <cox377> i have a canon ip1000 printer hooked upto a windows machine as i cant get it running on my kubuntu machine without a lot of hassle. will i have the same driver problems if it's local or network?
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Now try wpa_gui
[01:13] <ubuntu> i want to install xp skin
[01:13] <ubuntu> how can i do it ?
[01:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: I will give you something to put into /etc/network/interfaces to try
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> That reminds me that there is still the old stuff from the WEP encryption in there, h3sp4wn
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Can that be the root of all evil?
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> There are many roots of evil
[01:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Girls are the root of all evil, I can prove that...
[01:16] <cox377> .lol
[01:17] <MilhousePunkRock> http://www.geocities.com/enematic5000/girls.html
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> http://pastebin.ca/93331
[01:17] <robewald> hi
[01:18] <tristan_> hi
[01:18] <robewald> skim is makeing me pulling my hair out :-(
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: It could also be madwifi will choke on that key
[01:18] <tristan_> Can anyone tell me how to change an icon at the top left of a window?
[01:18] <tristan_> robewald, same here. Cannot type Japanese....
[01:19] <robewald> yes, so what remedy do I have?
[01:19] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: The problem is the key is not in HEX
[01:19] <tristan_> robewald, I don't have any unfortunately
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: If it is quoted it doesn't need to be in hex
[01:19] <MilhousePunkRock> It's definetely ASCII, it contains & and @ and ^ and what not
[01:20] <RogueX> Good Morning everyone!
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey RogueX
[01:20] <wishu> helo!
[01:20] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock:
[01:20] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: Hello :)
[01:21] <wishu> someone thik how desinstall openoffice?
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> I put it in there, h3sp4wn, what now?
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: ifup ath0
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo ifup ath0
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> wishu, did you try removing it in adept?
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo wpa_cli
[01:21] <RogueX> So to start things off who can tell me how to turn off showing people coming and going in Konverstion?
[01:21] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock:  yes but packets are installed and I don't put to remove
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> I am pretty sure it's up already, the LEDs are blinking (is that an english word)
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: (If you have put those lines in) then that will start up wpa_supplicant properly
[01:23] <tristan_> Can anyone tell me how to change an icon at the top left of a window?
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: then you can tell whether its just the keys in wrong or what with wpa_cli
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> ifup: Interface is already configured
[01:23] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: the packets are this: -help-en-us, -l10n-common, -l10-en-gb, -l10n-en-us, -l10n-en-za and -thesaurus-en-un
[01:23] <RogueX> So to start things off who can tell me how to turn off showing people coming and going in Konverstion?
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo ifdown ath0 && sudo ifup ath0
[01:23] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: this packets if I put to remove adept says 'the packets doesn't remove because other packages are broken'
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> I can't help you there, wishu, sorry
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn:
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock>     SET failed on device ath0 ; Invalid argument.
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock>     invalid argument "J~".
[01:25] <MilhousePunkRock> it still does not like the & symbol in the key it seems
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[01:25] <MilhousePunkRock> my current one? roger that
[01:25] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: nothing i'm just finding at google this, you wish me every succes :P
[01:25] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: where are you located?
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Yep I will check what the problems are / may be
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: http://pastebin.ca/93345
[01:28] <helpmeee> why is it that amaroK will play mp3s that it has scanned itself through the folders I added?
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> RogueX: 52 23' N 9 59' E
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: So you haven't actually changed anything -
[01:29] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: ok I will have to figure that one out!  LOL
[01:29] <wishu> someone know the sources to download 'superkaramba'?
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> not yet, I tried just putting the 63charWPAkey in there, although I kinda new that wouldnt be much of a help...
[01:30] <MilhousePunkRock> wishu: AFAIK that comes with Kubuntu by default
[01:30] <MilhousePunkRock> RogueX: Nothern part of Germany that is
[01:31] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: Cool!  USA here
[01:31] <MilhousePunkRock> I figured that RogueX, since you said "Good morning when you joined"
[01:31] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: sorry u-u' i don't look the packages that i don't install xD
[01:31] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: thank you ^^
[01:32] <MilhousePunkRock> You're welcome, wishu... I am surprised that I can help with some minor stuff already
[01:32] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: got that did you.. :)
[01:33] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: jejeje one think, do you read books to learn linux?
[01:33] <MilhousePunkRock> No... I hate books, good books are made into movies anyway...
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Reading forums can be very educative, besides that I always got the help I needed here in this very IRC channel
[01:34] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: ah ok
[01:35] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: i'm noob with linux in adittion i'm spanish and I don't know more english to speak very well
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> I am pretty sure there is a spanish kubuntu channel to
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> too*
[01:35] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: if i don't says that i would like tell you sorry but my english is so bas
[01:36] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: yes but in this chanell noone are connected
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't care, I am no native either, as long as I can somewhat understand what you say it's all fine
[01:36] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: now only 3 person are conected
[01:37] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: other thing: how i register my nickname?
[01:37] <RogueX> wishu: GOOD question...  I was wondering the same
[01:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm, if I only could remember that... I think the procedere is described in the help of Konversation
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> http://pastebin.ca/93351
[01:37] <wishu> !help
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[01:38] <h3sp4wn> MillhousePunkRock: ^^
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> MillhousePunkRock: Change it to look like that (adding the wpa ascii key)
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Roger that h3sp4wn
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> sudo ifdown ath0 && sudo ifup ath0
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> then sudo wpa_gui
[01:39] <robewald> !skim
[01:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about skim - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:43] <MilhousePunkRock> That looks better now, h3sp4wn, but DHCP is not quite working yet
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: are you in wpa_gui ?
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> no
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> wpa_cli sorry
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Hold on
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, it says "interactive mode" and has a little prompt with a > in front
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> type status
[01:46] <MilhousePunkRock> wpa-state=SCANNING
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: type scan and then scan_results - and pastebin the output
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Only two lines, still pastebin?
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> ok just paste it here
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> bssid / frequency / signal level / flags / ssid
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> 00:13:49:07:7a:f0       2437    196     [WPA-PSK-TKIP] 
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> That is indeed the MAC of my router
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> It doesn't have a name then - turn on ssid scanning at least temporarily
[01:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, the ESSID is hidden
[01:51] <robewald> tristan_: is your icon problem solved?
[01:53] <|lostbyte|> Hi 1
[01:53] <|lostbyte|> Any one know of a simple linux video editor ?
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: http://pastebin.ca/93372
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> That's the scan results for now
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Why not get it working with a shorter one (so you know its working then change it to something more secure afterwards)
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Before we lose our heads over that one & in the key, what if I altered that to something else?
[01:54] <|lostbyte|> cut, merge, split, convert, resize, and all those mencoder stunts... ?
[01:55] <|lostbyte|> But a little bit more visual..
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: I don't think it is & that is the problem maybe some other character
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: (' or ` for example)
[01:55] <Healot> virtualdubmod with WINE, |lostbyte| :)
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> I could go without the & first and see if I can work it out according to the howto...
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> no ' or ` in there
[01:55] <|lostbyte|> virtualdubmod is freeware ?
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: All you need to do is remove the & and put the key into psk="jijif" etc and it should work
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> What other chars could give the shell trouble?
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> `'\
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> @
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> $
[01:57] <MilhousePunkRock> no $ in there either, but 2 @
[01:57] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: What you have in wpa_cli (means everything is working right but the key is wrong)
[01:58] <MilhousePunkRock> a 63 character HEX key is still pretty secure, isn't it?
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Wpa only uses the key on association
[01:59] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Once its associated it generates its own keys and rotates them (hence why its better than wep)
[01:59] <MilhousePunkRock> I just don't trust my neighbors... The DSL LED was lit up once when none of our PCs was on
[01:59] <MilhousePunkRock> That was on 128bit WEP though
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: they won't be able to crack wpa in any sane amount of time
[02:00] <|lostbyte|> Healot, have a look at kino, if you didt know..
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: (whereas wep takes about 5 mins to crack - wpa takes years)
[02:01] <MilhousePunkRock> So even a 20 char HEX key is sufficient?
[02:02] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: I would just use an ascii key 20 characters (mixture of letters and numbers)
[02:02] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: convert to hex with wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase
[02:02] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Mine has never been cracked (and I have powerful antennas so I can use it outside)
[02:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Something like this: XgYx1bCMXlpShtJOY4RrqrFx4P8ArcTpWhpr1mWDXgl3Fo13PbvcxcQLRMAK1em
[02:03] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: That would be fine
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Then run wpa_passphrase ArcorWirelessLAN XgYx1bCMXlpShtJOY4RrqrFx4P8ArcTpWhpr1mWDXgl3Fo13PbvcxcQLRMAK1em
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> and put the hex key into /etc/network/interfaces (without the quotes)
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> wpa-psk outputofwpapassphrase
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> In progress
[02:07] <tristan_> robewald, no my icon problem is not solved. I choose a new icon for thunderbird in my K menu but the icon that is displayed on my thunderbird window is still the same...
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> sudo ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0 ??
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> yes
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> then sudo wpa_cli
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> status (should say wpa_state=COMPLETED)
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Looks like it still has trouble with the DHCP
[02:09] <MilhousePunkRock> The point is, I _am_ on the Laptop already, but with a wired connection through eth0
[02:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Is that why DHCP is having issues?
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Is the wpa_state=COMPLETED ?
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: you should only have one dhcp connection at a time up (you can't have 2 default routes)
[02:11] <MilhousePunkRock> But if I unplug the cable now, I won't be connected to the web no more
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: all you need to know is whether wpa_state=COMPLETED in wpa_cli
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: dhcp will work that is not the problem
[02:12] <robewald> tristan_: mmh, for thunderbird I don't know. for applications using the kdelibs you can use the --miniicon option to set the icon in the titlebar
[02:12] <MilhousePunkRock> wpa_cli gives that CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECT again
[02:12] <tristan_> anyone is able to input japanese in Dapper with skim? I can't seem to configure it correctly
[02:13] <tristan_> thanks robewald, I'll try that
[02:14] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: set the key to testpassphrase or something
[02:14] <robewald> tristan_: japanese works for me with gtk based applications. I am still fighting with qt based ones :-(
[02:14] <tristan_> robewald, in fact i'm using kde
[02:15] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't think it's a key problem anymore, the passphrase thing went fine
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: what is the output of status in wpa_cli (I am going to stop bothering trying to help you if I have to ask everything more than once)
[02:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe the wpa_supplicant.conf still has the old key?
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> its not using wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:17] <robewald> tristan_: i got it to work :-)
[02:17] <MilhousePunkRock> I told you before, it prints that CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECT again, I can't even type state
[02:17] <robewald> export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8
[02:18] <tristan_> robewald, how did you do? I have scim installed anthy and japanese fonts. But still when I type CTRL+RIGHT which should switch from French to Japanese it doesn't work
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: lsmod | grep ath
[02:19] <robewald> tristan_: open a konsole
[02:19] <robewald> tristan_: and type LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 kwrite
[02:19] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: what matters is whether it is ath_pci or ath_new_pci
[02:19] <robewald> tristan_: then try to hit CTRL+SPACE
[02:20] <tristan_> robewald, not working. Cannot switch to Japanese
[02:20] <robewald> tristan_: a window should appear. with CTRL+ALT+DOWN you can switch to japanese
[02:20] <robewald> tristan_: are your XMODIFIERS and QT_IM_MODULE variables set?
[02:20] <tristan_> robewald, negative
[02:21] <tristan_> robewald, I don't know what you are talking about
[02:21] <MilhousePunkRock> I changed the key to testpassphrase now h3sp4wn
[02:21] <robewald> tristan_: what steps have you taken until now?
[02:22] <tristan_> robewald,  I thought that just configuring scim and downloading fonts would be enough
[02:22] <MilhousePunkRock> It says ath_pci h3sp4wn
[02:22] <robewald> tristan_: please install the skim package
[02:23] <robewald> tristan_: need to restart. i am back in a minute
[02:23] <tristan_> robewald, OK
[02:25] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: and you put 1d568fa0d5e20fffa4c4f791bea3e8cbf49dc4be5f316f25b809fe9bd85b00d8
[02:25] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: and you put wpa-psk d568fa0d5e20fffa4c4f791bea3e8cbf49dc4be5f316f25b809fe9bd85b00d8 into /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> wpa-psk 1d568fa0d5e20fffa4c4f791bea3e8cbf49dc4be5f316f25b809fe9bd85b00d8 (sorry)
[02:27] <h3sp4wn> (that is the output of wpa_passphrase ArcorWirelessLAN testpassphrase
[02:28] <MilhousePunkRock> i did that h3sp4wn
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Is wpa_cli still complaining about the keys being wrong ?
[02:29] <robewald> tristan_: i am back :-). did you install skim?
[02:29] <MilhousePunkRock> yes
[02:29] <tristan_> robewald, yes it was installed. I am following the tutorial here : http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Turn on ssid broadcasting
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: you have run sudo ifdown ath0 etc etc
[02:31] <MilhousePunkRock> it's already on, i turned off the MAC filtering as well
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: You may have a card that only works with madwifi-ng
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo modprobe -r ath_pci
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo modprobe new_ath_pci
[02:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Done both, h3sp4wn, didn't give any feedback
[02:33] <robewald> tristan_: i don't want to read that howto now. basically i installed skim
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: change the driver type in /etc/network/interfaces to wext (and try again)
[02:34] <robewald> and scim-qtimm
[02:35] <robewald> then i started skim from the konsole, clicked with my right mouse button on the tray icon and set the options
[02:36] <tristan_> robewald, it's OK; it is working now
[02:36] <tristan_> robewald, thanks for your help
[02:36] <robewald> tristan_: cool, have fun
[02:37] <tristan_> I can write to my japanese friends now
[02:38] <aegeanlinux> night Y'all
[02:40] <MilhousePunkRock> That did not quite work, h3sp4wn
[02:41] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: http://pastebin.ca/93427
[02:44] <tristan_> is there any way to integrate the xscreensaver to the kscreensaver list?
[02:44] <tristan_> Else I have to launch by myself xscreensaver so that the comand xscreensaver-command -lock will work...
[02:45] <Hobbsee> tristan_: install kscreensaver-xsavers
[02:47] <tristan_> thanks Hobbsee
[02:49] <tristan_> Hobbsee, there are some of my xscreensaver that are not in the new list like molecule (lumpy)
[02:50] <Hobbsee> tristan_: is https://launchpad.net/bugs/49228 the same bug?
[02:50] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: ath0 is gone now o_O
[02:52] <Pupeno> a net salary is before or after taxes ?
[02:52] <MilhousePunkRock> after, Pupeno
[02:52] <Hobbsee> Pupeno: after.
[02:53] <tristan_> Hobbsee, it's ok. Problem solved. Thanks for your help
[02:53] <Hobbsee> tristan_: :) what was the solution?
[02:54] <tristan_> Hobbsee, correctly configuring the screensaver so that it looks like I want ;)
[02:54] <Hobbsee> tristan_: ahh :P
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Try #madwifi - I don't understand what you are doing wrong
[02:55] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I get ath0 back now that it's gone?
[02:55] <mindbob> a/join #openbsd
[02:55] <mindbob> sorry
[02:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Will do, h3sp4wn, thanks for your patience anyway!
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: They may be able to give you more specific commands to find out exactly what is going wrong (keep the passphrase as testpassphrase though)
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: If they say upgrade to the latest stable version of madwifi - I can probably help you do that
[03:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I have yet to wait if they say anything at all over there, h3sp4wn...
[03:01] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: It usually takes longer because the people in there are the developers of madwifi
[03:02] <MilhousePunkRock> If I knew how to get ath0 back, I could try one of the other approaches from the HowTo step by step, h3sp4wn
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo modprobe -r ath_new_pci && sudo modprobe ath_pci (wpa_supplicant is the best approach)
[03:03] <driz> hey people does amarok has a way to shrink music files so i can fit them all on my PSP
[03:03] <driz> ?
[03:03] <h3sp4wn>  MilhousePunkRock: Do you use anything from linux-restricted-modules ?
[03:03] <gnuton> Hi!
[03:05] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: I think I needed some of it when I tried to set up my TV card (which failed and was then abandoned)
[03:05] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: If you remove restricted modules
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: You can build madwifi 0.91 from source
[03:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to figure out if anything that I actually use needs the restricted modules prior to removing it?
[03:10] <MilhousePunkRock> WTF!
[03:10] <BKaj> 'Morning Linux Lovers....or should I say Kubuntu Kravers!
[03:10] <MilhousePunkRock> I think I am connected to the wireless now for some reason!
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo wpa_cli
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: status (should say completed)
[03:11] <Pupeno> driz: not amarok, far that, you'll need another program, but I am not sure which one.
[03:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Indeed it says COMPLETED
[03:11] <nirmal> goodmorning i am a new to Kubuntu from India hi all
[03:12] <gatekeeper> hello
[03:12] <BKaj> hey gatekeeper, how goes it ?
[03:12] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: I altered the WPA-PSK in the /network/interfaces from the passkey output to the original "testpassphrase" in quotes
[03:12] <nirmal> gatekeeper: hi there it is cool
[03:12] <gatekeeper> BKaj: fine thanx and with you?
[03:13] <MilhousePunkRock> did ifdown and up
[03:13] <BKaj> just fine thx :)
[03:13] <MilhousePunkRock> and the lights go on...
[03:13] <gatekeeper> nirmal: we got a heat wave :-)
[03:13] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: So that means its working (now try making the key more complicated )
[03:14] <gatekeeper> BKaj: you must be from the US if it's morning?
[03:14] <BKaj> nirmal is prolly used to the heat
[03:14] <driz> Pupeno: thanks anyways I'll google it or something
[03:14] <root__> hi
[03:14] <BKaj> Ontario, Canada gatekeeper :)
[03:14] <gatekeeper> BKaj: cool weather nice?
[03:15] <nickay> there is any packege in ubuntu for Wine?
[03:15] <BKaj> it is now ...we had 90's a few days back ...not used to that
[03:15] <BKaj> sounds like a plan MilhousePunkRock :)
[03:15] <gatekeeper> nickay: do you mean is wine in the repositories?
[03:15] <nirmal> now the room temp is 31 at 18 hrs
[03:16] <Pupeno> nickay: apt-cache search wine ?
[03:16] <gatekeeper> BKaj: record for the uk 36.3C yesterday
[03:16] <BKaj> I'm about 200mi North of Torornto , in mining and forestry country , gatekeeper...where in the US are you ?
[03:16] <nirmal> gatekeeper: oh my God
[03:16] <pekay> anyone has the problem upgrading amaroK ? :(, mine says BREAK :/
[03:17] <gatekeeper> BKaj: in the uk ^^^
[03:17] <BKaj> ok UK cool
[03:17] <gatekeeper> BKaj: no hot 36.3C :-)
[03:18] <v3ctor> my car sitting in the hot parking lot yestrerday ready 105F
[03:18] <BKaj> ok I'll switch to celsius again ...we do celsius here as well , switched back in the 70s
[03:18] <BKaj> 36C ...gawd
[03:19] <gatekeeper> nirmal: have a look here you will see the repos you need to install wine: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:19] <BKaj> we had 33 here 3 days ago with 90 humidity ...not to comfy
[03:19] <BKaj> too
[03:19] <nirmal> thanks gk
[03:20] <gatekeeper> BKaj: plenty humid here came back from the flicks at 11pm still 25C outside, house considerable warmer phew...
[03:20] <gatekeeper> nirmal: np :-)
[03:21] <v3ctor> Temperature 79.0 F (26.1 C) (Indianapolis)
[03:21] <v3ctor> nice here this AM
[03:21] <BKaj> yeah , bummer ..it'll cool ..we're sending some cool dry canuck across the pond as we speak
[03:21] <nirmal> last month i installed Kanotix64 bit and it was also cool
[03:21] <BKaj> air , that is :)
[03:21] <gatekeeper> BKaj: cool :-)
[03:22] <nirmal> now i am on Kubuntu system :-|
[03:22] <gatekeeper> nirmal: how long have been using linux?
[03:22] <cox377> 27'c UK
[03:22] <cox377> :)
[03:23] <cox377> was 36.5'c yesterday, but a little cooler today
[03:23] <BKaj> nirmal: I'm quite happy with kubuntu so far ... for a relative noobie like me it works well and the support here has ben very gratifying :)
[03:23] <cox377> does anyone here use the default kubuntu wireless assistant?
[03:23] <cox377> i've heard it's a loada*** and someone did say an alternative
[03:24] <cox377> but.. being me i forgot to save it
[03:24] <BKaj> it's 9:23 and 22C here in Northern Ontario
[03:24] <gnuton> cox377: have you tried knetworkwireless?
[03:24] <cox377> shall do now
[03:24] <cox377> basically, the default wireless assistant does not remember the connections
[03:24] <cox377> u have to load it everytime
[03:24] <gnuton> cox377: it's better!
[03:25] <gatekeeper> don't knock it, it's nice to have a bit of warmth and blue skies but can get a little over powering
[03:25] <gnuton> cox377: i don't know!
[03:25] <nirmal> BKaj: yes i feel great to be with you all here
[03:25] <BKaj> gatekeeper: 36C is abit much tho
[03:25] <cox377> is knetworkwireless under the repos?
[03:26] <pekay> someone, what i do with broken updates?!
[03:26] <gnuton> no knetworkmanager
[03:26] <gatekeeper> BKaj: true
[03:27] <gatekeeper> pekay: install synaptic and remove the broken ones is what I would do
[03:28] <gatekeeper> pekay: scratch what I just said, not sure what you would do with updates
[03:29] <pekay> gate: :S, says amaroK depends on libifp4
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: so have you changed it to something more secure (and removed auto eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces)
[03:29] <nirmal> gatekeeper: i have been trying to install linux since 1998
[03:29] <BKaj> Now if zi could just figure out how to get my windows network printer to work...itgets the message on th etst print , moves the print cartridge to the print setup position , then it just sits there ...the printjob report says it's queued and ready but it never does print
[03:30] <gatekeeper> nirmal: should be an old hand now :-)
[03:30] <nirmal> but truly i could get acces to Internet and good distros in the year 2005 since then i have installed more than 20 flavours of linux
[03:31] <gatekeeper> nirmal: your favourite being?
[03:31] <gatekeeper> pekay: is that lib in your repos?
[03:31] <pekay> i dont know
[03:32] <pekay> just installed Kubuntu, wanted the new amaroK
[03:32] <nirmal> but at that time i could not afford hardware since it was costly and at the sametime due to lack of good Distros and i learned on my own
[03:32] <pekay> i cant even run easybuntu :S
[03:32] <nirmal> now my fav is Kubuntu :-)
[03:33] <gatekeeper> pekay: you don't need to run easybuntu, there is a repos on the kubuntu site for that version put it in your sources.list and install
[03:33] <Healot> nirmal, how's india?
[03:34] <BKaj> pekay: does adept run ok ?
[03:34] <pekay> i did put in the repository in my sources.listye
[03:34] <pekay> ye*
[03:34] <BKaj> then go with synaptic
[03:34] <nirmal> Healot: now it is quite cool but the summer is hot
[03:35] <BKaj> where in india are you nirmal?
[03:35] <Healot> cool
[03:35] <gatekeeper> pekay: yes use synaptic, reinstall or uninstall the broken pacakges, all the repos you should need are here:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:36] <Healot> i heard banglore has lot of cool things
[03:36] <Johncro13> hello, room.
[03:36] <nirmal> Visakhapatnam
[03:36] <gregb> hello
[03:37] <gatekeeper> pekay: got to run ask one of the others if you need more help
[03:37] <pekay> sure thanks
[03:37] <nirmal> Hawkwind: Banglore is a cool place but i donot know the cool things :-)
[03:37] <Johncro13> I'm having some difficulty connecting to the net.  I have an ethernet controller that Kubuntu recognises when I "lspci -v", but I can't enable it via networking.  Anyone with any experience?
[03:37] <nirmal> gatekeeper: bye for now
[03:37] <gatekeeper> BKaj: nirmal and everyone else, catch you latter folks, off to enjoy the sun
[03:38] <pekay> only synaptic doesnt work :S, just loads then exits
[03:38] <gatekeeper> nirmal: bye for now
[03:38] <nirmal> ok thanks bye for now
[03:38] <nirmal> bye
[03:38] <nirmal> cu soon
[03:38] <Healot> see you l8r
[03:39] <gatekeeper> pekay: ask one of the others for apt-get commands to sort you out
[03:39] <Healot> do you know how to work with ifconfig? Johncro13
[03:39] <gatekeeper> pekay: sorry to leave you in the learch
[03:39] <Johncro13> ifcongif --help
[03:40] <Johncro13> ifconfig --help.
[03:40] <pekay> its fine gatekeeper
[03:40] <pekay> xd
[03:40] <gatekeeper> pekay: good luck :-)
[03:40] <pekay> amarok seems to update now
[03:40] <pekay> doh, hes gone
[03:40] <Johncro13> btw, this is dhcp.  no encryption.
[03:41] <Healot> dhcp doesn't do encryption
[03:42] <charlene> hi
[03:42] <charlene> is kerwin here
[03:42] <Healot> hi charlene
[03:42] <charlene> can i join
[03:42] <charlene> hi healot
[03:43] <Johncro13> I don't think ifconfig will do it.
[03:44] <doppelganger> sup guys
[03:46] <BKaj> I was trying out skype , but it was breaking up as if it was searching for a port...could there be a port mapping issue with skype ?
[03:49] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: It seems to work now, but I am not automatically connected on boot up...
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: auto ath0 (make sure thats there)
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: and remove auto eth0
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:53] <MilhousePunkRock> It's already in the interfaces like that...
[03:54] <MilhousePunkRock> After I rebooted I went straight to wpa_cli, the status was inactive then
[03:54] <MilhousePunkRock> After I did an ifdown and up it was completed
[03:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Could there be some leftovers of the WEP encryption on boot time?
[03:55] <DrBair> would it be proper to post bugs on konq 3.5.3 on launchpad since it not in the offical repos?
[03:56] <Hobbsee> DrBair: yeah, because it's in edgy now.
[03:57] <DrBair> Hobbsee: are you on an edgy system with konqueror by chance?
[03:57] <Hobbsee> DrBair: yep
[03:57] <BKaj> is this something to be concerned about ?  "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"
[03:57] <Hobbsee> BKaj: no
[03:58] <DrBair> Hobbsee: could you please confirm a bug for me by going to newsforge.org with javascript enabled?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> DrBair: what's the bug?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> DrBair: link?  newsforge.org?
[03:58] <MilhousePunkRock> BKaj: That is because there are some wacom drawing tablet drivers in the xorg.conf by default
[03:58] <DrBair> Hobbsee: yep
[03:58] <Hobbsee> DrBair: yep?
[03:58] <BKaj> ok MilhousePunkRock , Hobbsee,  thx
[03:59] <MilhousePunkRock> BKaj: You can comment them out with #
[03:59] <DrBair> Hobbsee: might need to reload it a few times... its quite random
[03:59] <Hobbsee> DrBair: what's the bug?
[04:00] <Johncro13> what command do I use to just reset all network info so it'll autoconfig?
[04:00] <DrBair> Hobbsee: but on some webpages javascript code gets rendered as text, looks ugly, or occassionally the page just won't appear
[04:00] <DrBair> Hobbsee: but with it disabled, everything works great 100% of the time
[04:05] <nirmal> BKaj: can i use kdesu adept_updater?
[04:06] <Johncro13> hmmm.....
[04:06] <Hobbsee> DrBair: beyond konqueror just being generally slow, i dont see much.  then again, i dont use konq for webbrowsing
[04:07] <BKaj> yes I would nirmal
[04:08] <DrBair> Hobbsee: for me the page looks different everytime i refresh
[04:09] <Hobbsee> DrBair: konq 3.5.3?  hmmm.
[04:09] <BKaj> nirmal:  sometimes at boot up adept will have an update flag in the panel , just click on it
[04:10] <wolfpaw> hiho
[04:10] <nirmal> yes i got the update flag thanks let me try
[04:11] <BKaj> yeah Hobbsee, I find Konq awfully skow as a browser
[04:12] <BKaj> slow
[04:12] <nirmal> download complete shall i update it
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> Try prelinking kde that can speed stuff up
[04:13] <Mr_Crispy> for some reason whenever I put a CD in my computer and try to browse to it, I get a message saying "Malformed URL". Any idea why and how to fix this?
[04:14] <DrBair> Hobbsee: ugh... its not konqueror. I loaded the page and noticed it looked completely different because I have adblock turned on for konq
[04:14] <DrBair> Hobbsee: disabled adblock and everything is working
[04:15] <BKaj> does anyone use "beep" media player and if so is it worth keeping ?
[04:15] <Hobbsee> DrBair: ahh.
[04:16] <BKaj> adblock sucks on FF too ...I got rid of it
[04:17] <BKaj> hemejorma... suomalainen!
[04:17] <arso> hey how do i get a list of partitions and their total / free space
[04:17] <DrBair> adblock is so nice... webpages load a million times faster when you don't need to wait for huge gif and flash animations to download
[04:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Just get a faster connection DrBair :-P
[04:18] <DrBair> arso: df -h will list mounted partitions
[04:18] <arso> DrBair:  thnx
[04:18] <DrBair> MilhousePunkRock: I already have 8MBit cable!
[04:18] <Healot> sudo fdisk -l will list all partitions on all disks
[04:18] <MilhousePunkRock> lol DrBair... Then it's probably a good idea to use AdBlock
[04:19] <arso> Healot:  thats better, thnx
[04:19] <arso> Healot:  how do i know their free space
[04:20] <dillinger> hi
[04:20] <dillinger> anyone knows of a good video editing software for linux. something like adobe premiere for windows ?
[04:21] <arso> any online tv streaming on linux?
[04:21] <arso> and online radio
[04:22] <Mr_Crispy> for some reason whenever I put a CD in my computer and try to browse to it, I get a message saying "Malformed URL". Any idea why and how to fix this?
[04:22] <BKaj> dillinger: Kino might work for you
[04:22] <dillinger> thank you BKaj, i'll give it a try right now
[04:22] <BlankB> dillinger: I have never found a package for linux that works like adobe premiere.
[04:23] <dillinger> hope its a good one
[04:23] <arso> BKaj:  AUDIO/VIDEO streamin?
[04:23] <BKaj> arso: good video editing software
[04:23] <dillinger> yep BlankB, i'm not really asking for an adobe premiere version for linux, but a software that would allow me to really start editing some videos in linux
[04:23] <dillinger> just a good video editing software would do
[04:23] <arso> BKaj:  no i mean, do u know anything for audio.video streamind ;)
[04:24] <BKaj> not video , but streamtuner works for audio
[04:24] <BlankB> dillinger: there is cinelerra, kino, and also the updated blender sequence editor in Blender.
[04:25] <BKaj> streamtuner uses the xmms player
[04:25] <nirmal> du
[04:25] <dillinger> thx BlankB, i heard about cinelerra but couldnt find it using apt-get
[04:25] <arso> BKaj:  wats xmms
[04:25] <dillinger> guess there is no package for it yet
[04:25] <BKaj> it should be in your K-menu arso
[04:26] <arso> thats its full name?
[04:26] <BKaj> yes
[04:26] <arso> hmm i dont have it
[04:27] <BKaj> it'll be in adept , I'm sure
[04:27] <BlankB> dillinger: there is also a commercial editor for linux called MainActor made by Mainconcept
[04:27] <arso> ak checking in adept
[04:27] <dillinger> yep, but i'm not planning on dropping a single dime on some software using linux
[04:28] <dillinger> that's the main reason why i switched from windows
[04:28] <BlankB> dillinger: there is a demo version available.
[04:28] <arso> BKaj:  i get many results (non installed) which one should i get
[04:28] <dillinger> the demo wont make it, i need a fully fonctionnal software
[04:28] <arso> buy it :)
[04:29] <dillinger_> i'm not buying anything
[04:29] <BlankB> dillinger_: understtod.
[04:29] <dillinger_> ;)
[04:29] <BKaj> arso, just the xmms for now
[04:30] <BlankB> dillinger_: I havent tried the enhanced sequence editor in blender but it looks really promising.
[04:30] <arso> BKaj:  okay , installing
[04:30] <dillinger_> i'm downloading kino and blender
[04:31] <dillinger_> BlankB: both seem promising, guess they'll be ok for all my needs
[04:31] <dillinger_> BlankB: + i like free softwares
[04:31] <BlankB> dillinger_: I think the updated sequence editor may only be in the latest version that is not in the repos yet.
[04:31] <BlankB> dillinger_: but the version from the blender.org site works great.
[04:32] <dillinger_> BlankB: Ok, i'll give it a try
[04:32] <BKaj> anyone here use skype ?
[04:33] <BlankB> dillinger_: I almost forgot there is another one: jahshaka (never used it though)
[04:34] <dillinger_> thx
[04:35] <Healot> yo yo
[04:35] <arso> BKaj:  i use skype on windows
[04:35] <arso> yo yo
[04:36] <Healot> torring rocks
[04:36] <edobbs> aye aye
[04:39] <arso> whats a ".asx" file?
[04:39] <wolfpaw> m$ fileformat
[04:40] <wolfpaw> streaming media
[04:41] <wolfpaw> how do I stop the x-server on kubuntu...i wanted to install graphic accelerator drivers
[04:42] <wolfpaw> no one here who could help me?
[04:43] <edobbs> wolfpaw: hit CTRL-ALT-F1, log in, then 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'
[04:43] <edobbs> that's the polite way, anyway
[04:43] <arso> lol
[04:44] <wolfpaw> ok i will try...thanks
[04:44] <arso> remember
[04:44] <arso> dont be rude ;)
[04:44] <arso> kde has feelings
[04:44] <wolfpaw> If I am rude my system gets me all twice back ^^
[04:45] <Mr_Crispy> I think I hurt my KDE's feelings as much as I've been swearing at it over this cdrom problem.
[04:45] <arso> lol
[04:45] <arso> i am nice to lil kd
[04:46] <arso> "This SHOUTcast server runs on Linux, and is an elf binary compiled with glibc6. SHOUTcast no longer supports older Linux kernels running libc5 or glibc"
[04:46] <arso> wat the hell does that mean
[04:46] <edobbs> don't try to run it on redhat 6
[04:46] <Mr_Crispy> so, I'll ask once again... does anyone know why I would be getting a "malformed url" message whenever I try to open a cdrom?
[04:46] <arso> but fine with kubuntu?
[04:46] <edobbs> arso: yes, yes indeed
[04:47] <fortega> hola!
[04:47] <arso> yay
[04:47] <arso> hola!
[04:47] <edobbs> arso: you can always do a `dpkg -l '*libc*' | grep ^ii` to see what C libraries are present on your system
[04:47] <francolq_> hello. sodipodi only says "Segmentation Fault" in my AMD64 Kubuntu Breezy. Anyone could make sodipodi work?
[04:48] <fortega> como puedo instalar un reproductor de mp3 en KUBUNTU
[04:48] <fortega> ??
[04:48] <arso> edobbs:  i see, thnx
[04:48] <fortega> ???
[04:48] <edobbs> fortega: que es un 'reproductor'?
[04:49] <fortega> BUENO UN SOFTWARE PARA ESCUCHAR MUSIC MP3
[04:49] <fortega> EN KUBUNTU
[04:49] <Healot> !es
[04:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:49] <arso> edobbs:  i downloaded that shoutcast package, un tarred it or watva, and i have a readme , configuration file and server binary, wat do i do now to install it
[04:49] <edobbs> arso: read the README :)
[04:50] <arso> edobbs:  i tried, didnt get it :(
[04:50] <edobbs> arso: in general, put it in its own directory somewhere (under /usr/local/<software-name> works fine for most things), and see what you're supposed to do with it
[04:50] <BKaj> Mr Crispy, have you tried looking at your system settings/personal/soundmultimedia to make sure the dcrom is mounted?
[04:50] <arso> k
[04:50] <BKaj> er cdrom
[04:51] <Mr_Crispy> BKaj: I'll check real quick
[04:51] <arso> how can i run asx streams on linux
[04:51] <edobbs> arso: for server software, typically you'll want an init script to start it up automatically, and a config file to specify how you want it to behave
[04:52] <edobbs> arso: that's why i like using .deb packages or apt-gettable software since it'll handle all that messy admin stuff for you automagically
[04:52] <arso> i see
[04:52] <arso> so isnt there any apt-get'table' software for streaming?
[04:53] <BKaj> Mr Crispy, it should specify /dev/cdrom
[04:53] <Mr_Crispy> looks like it says that
[04:54] <BKaj> arso stremtuner is in the Adept i beleive, it's a internet radio stn listening and record proggie
[04:54] <Mr_Crispy> BKaj: still can't browse to my files on it though
[04:54] <francolq_> hello. sodipodi only says "Segmentation Fault" in my AMD64 Kubuntu Breezy. Anyone could make sodipodi work?
[04:54] <arso> BKaj:  ya i installed it, but i want video too :( online tv and stuff
[04:55] <BKaj> there is an online tv proggie , forgotten the name tho :(
[04:55] <arso> for linux?
[04:56] <arso> xmms isnt closing..
[04:56] <nirmal> shoutcast
[04:56] <BKaj> right click on it in the panel and choose quit
[04:56] <arso> ok killed it
[04:57] <BKaj> nirmal: yep that's one of them
[04:57] <arso> i wanted shoutcast too, but had a hard time ttrying to isntall it
[04:57] <BKaj> well if ya use the winamp plugins shoutcast will work
[04:57] <BKaj> never tried winamp in linux tho
[04:58] <arso> winamp is there for linux?
[04:58] <arso> oh
[04:58] <nirmal> winamp is best
[04:58] <arso> ya , on windows i use it
[04:58] <nirmal> linux version is also there for download
[04:58] <Mr_Crispy> aha! Fixed It! (at least I think)
[04:59] <nirmal> Mr_Crispy: how do you do that
[04:59] <Mr_Crispy> the cdrom problem?
[04:59] <nirmal> yes
[04:59] <scott_> hey does anyone know how I can network with my other machine??
[04:59] <arso> nirmal:  oh , main site? i looked , couldnt find it
[04:59] <arso> samba
[05:00] <Mr_Crispy> in my case, I went to system settings> Disk & Filesystems
[05:00] <edobbs> scott_: what do you mean?
[05:00] <Mr_Crispy> for some reason, the option to automatically enable and mount my optical drive had gotten turned off.
[05:00] <scott_> I am trying to network like I used to under network neighbourhood on windows
[05:00] <arso> BKaj:  somethings wrong with xmms, if i try to press any of its buttons the program freezes, have to kill it to close it
[05:01] <nirmal> may be for security reasons it will be by default off?
[05:01] <Mr_Crispy> right click on the drive and select "enable at start up" (also changed the mount permission to "any user may enable/disable anytime"
[05:01] <Mr_Crispy> it wasn't always like that
[05:01] <BKaj> http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Winamp_3_for_Linux/1002748075/1
[05:01] <Mr_Crispy> at least not on my system
[05:01] <Mr_Crispy> but I could be mistaken
[05:01] <nirmal> cool
[05:01] <arso> BKaj:  can i configuree streamtuner to use a player other that xmms? and if so, which one
[05:01] <Mr_Crispy> either way, It will let me browse to teh cdrom when I put it in now
[05:02] <arso> !stream
[05:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about stream - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:02] <arso> rpm
[05:02] <arso> !rpm
[05:02] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[05:02] <BKaj> amarok worked in suse , but it wouldn't work in kubuntu
[05:02] <arso> winamp is a .rpm , can i instal that?
[05:03] <BKaj> in streamtuner
[05:03] <Kr4t05> !tell arso about alien
[05:03] <BKaj> don't think so , try to find a deb pkg
[05:03] <nirmal> mine is a dvd rom and i donot see it anywhere :-(
[05:04] <Kr4t05> BKaj, he can use alien, but it's a "use-at-your-own-risk" thing.
[05:04] <arso> BKaj:  ok .
[05:04] <BKaj> Kr4t05: never used alien
[05:04] <arso> id rather not risk it
[05:04] <Kr4t05> Okay, suit yourself.
[05:04] <BKaj> I would try it but I just never used it
[05:05] <BKaj> how does alien work ?
[05:05] <nirmal> mine is a dvd rom and i donot see it anywhere :-(
[05:05] <edobbs> arso: you may want to check out the post-install docs for ubuntu, there's a good guide to getting different media bits set up "the ubuntu way"
[05:05] <Mr_Crispy> that's odd. I'm using a dvdrom also.
[05:05] <arso> edobbs:  okay , sure
[05:05] <nirmal> where shall i try to find it
[05:05] <BKaj> I have a dvd rom as well
[05:06] <scott_>  I am trying to network like I used to under network neighbourhood on windows
[05:07] <arso> BKaj:  for listen to a stream its "xmms %q" , wat should i type for another player? and which one u  think i should use
[05:08] <BKaj> arso, you can try amarok , but I doubt if it will work
[05:08] <Mr_Crispy> I'm not sure, nirmal. I'm new to this os myself. Like I said, I played with teh settings in the Disk & Filesystems section of the System Settings
[05:08] <arso> BKaj:  "amarok %q" ?
[05:08] <nirmal> ok i am also new ,  thanks anyway
[05:08] <BKaj> arso yup
[05:09] <wily_> anyone can help me with kismet?
[05:09] <arso> BKaj:  i did that
[05:09] <arso> but xmms s till loaded
[05:09] <arso> and its fine this time
[05:09] <Mr_Crispy> this is really weird. This CD has a windows and a mac partition and linux will only let me see the mac part. Any idea on how to see the windows part of the disk?
[05:10] <BKaj> it's odd , mine also sys that my cdrom is disabled in the disk admin settings ...very strange , but i can read and copy from cds
[05:10] <BKaj> and dvds
[05:10] <Bentley> Hi all.  I'm having a strange problem with kubuntu dapper, where my .xsession-errors log grows enormously huge with the repeating message: "QFile::open: No file name specified"
[05:10] <Bentley> i know I could link those to /dev/null ... but I want to find out what's causing the error
[05:10] <tictric> Mr_Crispy: mount it
[05:10] <Bentley> any ideas?
[05:10] <Kr4t05> Mr_Crispy: How can a CD have partitions?
[05:11] <Mr_Crispy> I don't know if its partitions or not, but there's mac files and windows files on it and its only letting me see the mac files
[05:11] <dillinger> BlankB: just to tell you that cinelerra is exactly the software i need
[05:11] <dillinger> BlankB: thx
[05:11] <cox377> is there a softphone for kubuntu that can be used for any provider?
[05:11] <BKaj> cool , dillinger
[05:12] <dillinger> BlankB: I installed it, tried it, its off the hook
[05:12] <dillinger> ;) BKaj
[05:12] <Kr4t05> cox377: Skype is available for Linux.
[05:12] <BlankB> dillinger: great. Did you find a .deb for it or a repository that had it?
[05:12] <dillinger> yep
[05:12] <dillinger> there was an ubuntu dapper rep
[05:12] <BKaj> my skype voice test sounds like it's being interupted by a dialing phone
[05:12] <dillinger> its on the cinelerra official website
[05:13] <BlankB> dillinger: ok. I will check it out...its been a while since I last looked at it.
[05:13] <BKaj> thx dillinger, gonna check it out
[05:13] <dillinger> ;)
[05:14] <Kr4t05> Le Sigh...
[05:14] <Kr4t05> I'm bored...
[05:14] <cox377> i'm basically after a generic softphone
[05:15] <Mr_Crispy> this is odd..when I browse to /media I have a cdrom with a link arrow on the icon, a cdrom0 and a sdb1
[05:15] <Mr_Crispy> cdrom and cdrom0 both bring up my cd drive and sdb1 says it doesn't exist when I try to open it
[05:15] <sebby> who can help me with something plsss?
[05:16] <Kr4t05> SoLo18: First, try keeping the same nick. Secondly, just ask. :)
[05:18] <fifamaster> hi
[05:18] <fifamaster> why i can't view my network from kubuntu?
[05:19] <arso> how do i instal a " .deb "
[05:19] <Kr4t05> fifamaster: is it a Windows network?
[05:19] <Kr4t05> arso, dpkg -i nameoffile.deb
[05:19] <fifamaster> yes
[05:20] <Kr4t05> fifamaster: you'll probably need samba
[05:20] <fifamaster> but i haven't and internet
[05:20] <fifamaster> i can't ping my router from kubuntu
[05:20] <Kr4t05> fifamaster: Hrm...
[05:21] <Kr4t05> fifamaster: have you tried configuring your network interface?
[05:21] <Balamir> hi
[05:21] <Balamir> fuck
[05:21] <Balamir> you
[05:21] <Kr4t05> !language
[05:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:21] <Balamir> fuck you linux
[05:21] <Balamir> is turkey
[05:21] <Kr4t05> !flame
[05:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about flame - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:22] <ninHer> hi all
[05:22] <Kr4t05> Someone kick the troll.
[05:22] <Balamir> hi ninHer
[05:22] <Healot> mind your language - 1970's BBC comedy
[05:22] <ninHer> hi Balamir
[05:22] <Balamir> can you speak turkish
[05:22] <dillinger> BKaj: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html
[05:22] <dillinger> afyet olsun
[05:22] <BKaj> thx dillinger
[05:22] <Balamir> selam
[05:22] <Balamir> karde
[05:22] <Balamir> dilinger
[05:23] <dillinger> lol i dont speak turkish man
[05:23] <dillinger> i just know that afyet olsun stuff
[05:23] <Balamir> :D
[05:23] <fifamaster> i can't start the network services
[05:23] <Kr4t05> What the...?
[05:23] <Balamir> lol
[05:23] <Balamir> trke bilen yok mu
[05:23] <dillinger> thats what they kept saying when i go to any restaurant in bodrum
[05:23] <Kr4t05> dillinger: it's probably an insult.
[05:24] <Kr4t05> :P
[05:24] <dillinger> lol :P
[05:24] <dillinger> guess so
[05:24] <Kr4t05> Yay! MP3s work.
[05:24] <musiclinux> has anyone had trouble with the 2.6.15-26 kernel? I can't even get to the gdm... it just hangs on the bootsplash
[05:24] <Kr4t05> musiclinux: after you update the kernel, you need to reinstall your video drivers.
[05:25] <musiclinux> Kr4t05: thanks....but why?
[05:25] <edobbs> and this is why i'm still running XP on my laptop
[05:25] <Kr4t05> musiclinux: Just one of those things.
[05:26] <Kr4t05> edobbs, ok...?
[05:26] <edobbs> kr4t05: it's not just "one of those things", it's a really annoying shortcoming, like many things with Linux
[05:26] <gan|y|med> hello and my appreciation to you all, folks :)
[05:26] <edobbs> don't get me wrong, it's great for server use, and if you have limited requirements, it can work well on a desktop
[05:27] <edobbs> but you can spend HOURS trying to get something like ACPI or 3D accelerated drivers working that JUST. PLAIN. WORK. under XP
[05:27] <gan|y|med> i have some issues with batch resizing using the kipi-plugins...
[05:27] <musiclinux> Kr4t05: so i would in my case reinstall the nvidia 3d ones?
[05:27] <Kr4t05> edobbs: we can't do anything about that untill some gets Microsoft to let loose on a few patents. God forbid Microsoft would lose money.
[05:27] <gan|y|med> edobbs: are using dapper?
[05:28] <Kr4t05> musiclinux: yep, just 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' along with the restricted modules for your kernel.
[05:28] <edobbs> it's not just MS, it's hardware vendors like Dell that ship broken ACPI implementations
[05:28] <edobbs> was using Dapper, yes
[05:28] <Kr4t05> edobbs: complain.
[05:28] <gan|y|med> uhoh
[05:29] <edobbs> obviously you can see how frustrated i got after trying to get ATI 3D accel graphics working with suspend/resume reliably
[05:29] <Kr4t05> If Dell realizes that they are losing a considerable consumer base, they will fix it.
[05:29] <gan|y|med> well, since i have been using dapper the acpi implementation on my nb doesn't work correctly, too. Strangely, that was better in breezy
[05:29] <edobbs> yeah, maybe; problem is, it's very easy for corporate customers to say "Just use XP!" in response to hardware/os problems like that
[05:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Does Kubuntu come with a telnet application by default?
[05:30] <edobbs> MilhousePunkRock: have you tried 'telnet' from the shell?
[05:30] <gan|y|med> edobbs: i am using ati opengl drivers + suspend works (any)
[05:30] <Kr4t05> edobbs: that's the problem, everyone is willing to say that Easier == Better.
[05:30] <edobbs> gan|y|med: what sort of PC are you running on?
[05:30] <gan|y|med> samsung notebook
[05:31] <MilhousePunkRock> That does indeed work, thx edobbs
[05:31] <edobbs> that's good to know
[05:31] <Kr4t05> edobbs: I'm using a home-built desktop.
[05:31] <gan|y|med> Kr4t05: sadly, you have to consider the USER
[05:31] <Kr4t05> gan|y|med: that too.
[05:31] <gan|y|med> take my situation, for example
[05:32] <gan|y|med> i LOVE linux/GNU/kubuntu and all the open source stuff
[05:32] <Kr4t05> gan|y|med: too many people are predisposed to Windows because it's the only OS that they hear of in everyday life.
[05:32] <gan|y|med> sadly, my professor does not care if i am late with my papers because i just had to fix some issue with my system
[05:33] <edobbs> indeed!
[05:33] <gan|y|med> Kr4t05: i agree
[05:33] <Kr4t05> I was just talking to my grandmother about what I was doing with my computer, (Updating packages) and I explained the concept of open source, she got the jist of it, but yeah.
[05:33] <edobbs> at least i only need an ssh client + web browser for most of my work
[05:33] <arso> could someone pleasee help me
[05:33] <arso> i am trying to follow
[05:33] <arso> https://develop.participatoryculture.org/projects/democracy/wiki/LinuxNotes
[05:33] <arso> but having no luck
[05:33] <arso> isntalling democracy player
[05:34] <arso> and it aint there in adept
[05:34] <Kr4t05> arso: did you enable uni/multiverse?
[05:34] <gan|y|med> you are talking to your grandmother about that...? wish i could do so
[05:34] <arso> Kr4t05:  yes
[05:35] <BKaj> Kr4t05:  I'm almost 63 and still learning pc's and linux
[05:35] <Kr4t05> gan|y|med: I'm not the only nerd in the family. My uncle is good with computers.
[05:35] <arso> main restricted universe multiverse         for type deb
[05:35] <Kr4t05> arso: that's all I got.
[05:35] <arso> k
[05:35] <gan|y|med> ok back to my problem: is anybody here familiar to the kipi-plugins/gwenview
[05:35] <Kr4t05> BKaj: have you been into computers all your life?
[05:36] <arso> "simply double click on the deb files so they are opened with gdebi, first democracyplayer-data_0.8.4.1-1_all.deb and afer that democracyplayer_0.8.4.1-1_i386.deb"
[05:36] <BKaj> Kr4t05: no only since I retired 7 yrs ago, altho I was using them as applications to run lab instruments and spreadsheets
[05:36] <arso> i am downloading the ubuntu version, doesnt matter if i am on kubuntu right?
[05:36] <BKaj> before that
[05:37] <dillinger> yep arso, it doesnt matter
[05:37] <arso> still not working
[05:37] <arso>  maybe i need to isntall "gdebi?/
[05:37] <arso> wateva that is
[05:38] <arso> when i try that command for installing .deb , i tdoesnt work
[05:38] <BKaj> my .cs repos are down so it's affecting my synaptic reloading
[05:38] <arso> wow ur
[05:38] <BKaj> oops .ca repos
[05:38] <arso> -
[05:38] <arso> 63
[05:39] <Kr4t05> BKaj: the thing about it, is most people who aren't directly interacting with computers everyday, or technically inclined towards technology, aren't going to be willing to spend time learning about it.
[05:39] <gan|y|med> is kuickshow out of the repos???
[05:39] <Kr4t05> BRB, I need to restart X
[05:39] <BKaj> Kr4t05: ain't that the truth ! :)
[05:42] <BKaj> BBIAB
[05:45] <bouncy> does someone know how to reverse the effect of "im-switch -s scim"?
[05:46] <fifamaster> f
[05:50] <Chongo> hi, does anyone know how to get turbolister 2 working in kubuntu with wine? are there any 'nix equivalents?
[05:52] <Hacker> hi
[05:52] <Hacker> hi all
[05:52] <Hacker> alooo
[05:52] <Hacker> kime diyom
[05:52] <Hacker> lan ibneler
[05:54] <shocktrooper1> how to detect available ddr?
[05:55] <diezare> do anyone know how to siwtch tabs in irc underterminal?
[05:56] <Healot> using iirc?
[05:56] <diezare> irc
[05:57] <Healot> which client, you mfsb?
[05:57] <diezare> i write the command irc
[05:58] <notech> shocktrooper1: for what?
[05:58] <Healot> if you write the program, you should know better
[05:58] <diezare> what do you mean by if i write the program, you mean if i programed it?!
[05:59] <shocktrooper1> notech, I just installed extra ddr and want to make sure it is detected.
[05:59] <notech> shocktrooper1: oh, motherboard ram. try 'top' or 'free'
[06:00] <diezare> dude, i just open the terminal and write the command irc, and everything goes fine and easy except when i want to open more than one channel, i can't move through the tabs. do u know how?
[06:00] <Healot> you meant "type"?
[06:01] <diezare> yes.
[06:01] <Healot> we don'
[06:01] <Healot> t write in shell, we type some command there :)
[06:01] <shocktrooper1> I don't think its detected.
[06:01] <diezare> Oh!, sry.
[06:01] <arkygeek> hi everyone.  i have been trying for about 4 days to solve my heat issue running kubuntu on my nec i-selct laptop.  can anyone help me out?  I am running dapper
[06:02] <arkygeek> also, i get no acpi features in kde
[06:02] <diezare> anyway, do u know how i can move through these tabs?
[06:03] <Healot> type /help diezare
[06:03] <notech> shocktrooper1: top will show a memory total. only you know what it should say
[06:03] <arkygeek> diezare: tabs in what software?
[06:03] <Healot> look out for the command list
[06:03] <shocktrooper1> notech, should I add mem and swap together?
[06:03] <diezare> k, thnx dude.
[06:04] <notech> shocktrooper1: no, swap is drive space
[06:04] <Sarnuial> what exactly is swap anyway?
[06:04] <Sarnuial> whats it for?
[06:04] <Sarnuial> (or am i asking in the wrong place...)
[06:05] <notech> space to use if ram gets all used up
[06:05] <Healot> it's the /window command iirc you mfsob diezare ?
[06:05] <Sarnuial> ok
[06:05] <Sarnuial> ...but i thought that was "virtual memory"?
[06:05] <Healot> !swap
[06:05] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq for more info
[06:05] <Sarnuial> is swap the space
[06:05] <Sarnuial> ooh i get it
[06:05] <Sarnuial> swap is the space used by virtual memory?
[06:07] <Healot> you want more?
[06:07] <Healot> !swap
[06:07] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq for more info
[06:07] <Sarnuial> not really thanks ;)
[06:08] <Healot> reverse swap, you'll get "paws"
[06:08] <Healot> mieoww
[06:08] <BKaj> woof woof !
[06:11] <Sarnuial> so just wondering, anyone care to assist me with a boot problem im having here?
[06:11] <Sarnuial> i just got my shipit cds yesterday
[06:11] <Sarnuial> (or cd)
[06:11] <root__> ciaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:12] <Sarnuial> and kubuntu freezes
[06:12] <Sarnuial> bye
[06:12] <Sarnuial> on boot
[06:12] <Sarnuial> two different computers
[06:14] <ChefWill> anyone know how to edit what programs startup when computer is booted?
[06:14] <ChefWill> for some reason 8 calculators and some other programs startup
[06:17] <Sarnuial> gtg
[06:18] <tigor> ChefWill: you mean programs that are started when a user starts a kde session? Usually KDE remembers the session data, i.e. all programs that are running on logout and restarts them the next time you log in
[06:18] <flaccid__> looks like taking acpi fixed it
[06:18] <flaccid__> it was that bug
[06:18] <flaccid__> err i mean acpi=off
[06:18] <ChefWill> tigor: yes that, how do i configure those programs?
[06:18] <ChefWill> ive tried to logout with nothing running and it doesnt save
[06:18] <tigor> just close them before you log out and the next time you log in they should stay closed
[06:19] <arso> while installing democracy player using  gdebi  i get "error dependency is not satisfiable : lilpango1.0-0" however i checked in adept, lilpango is installed
[06:19] <arso> any thoughts
[06:19] <ChefWill> already tried that
[06:19] <BKaj> it may be old arso
[06:19] <tigor> ChefWill: somewhere you can deactivate the 'save session data' thingy. Thus the current session is preseved for all next logins but I don't know where that is offhand.
[06:20] <arso> BKaj:  lilpango?
[06:20] <arso> BKaj:  how do i update it
[06:21] <tigor> ChefWill: try the K control-center: session manager there it is:"On Login: restore previous session" you could also change this to 'start with an empty session'
[06:32] <bobbyyu> I have a problem about my Adept installer
[06:33] <bobbyyu> It keeps telling me that there's an instance of the program already running, but I can't find anything
[06:33] <arkygeek> flaccid__: where do you see that option about acpi?
[06:33] <BKaj> do you have your konsole open?
[06:34] <aliasfred> bobbyyu: type with aptitude to see what it say
[06:35] <bobbyyu> I'm at aptitude
[06:35] <bobbyyu> It doesn't say anything
[06:35] <aliasfred> hmm ok
[06:35] <aliasfred> bobbyyu: last time i had this same exact trouble and it was a misconfigured package
[06:36] <aliasfred> bobbyyu: try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:36] <aliasfred> from memory
[06:37] <Kr4t05> !java
[06:37] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:41] <bobbyyu> Tried it
[06:41] <bobbyyu> Does something
[06:41] <bobbyyu> Shoudl I retry Adept
[06:41] <bobbyyu> ?
[06:42] <bobbyyu> Works!
[06:42] <bobbyyu> Thanks!
[06:42] <arso> how can i update
[06:42] <arso> libpango
[06:43] <aliasfred> bobbyyu: cool :)
[06:44] <trogbot> Got prob with installing printer & weird Cups/admin behavior..newbie needs help.
[06:47] <trident523> I was just using the automatix for Kubuntu, but my apt-get programs wont work any more.
[06:47] <trogbot> Install local prnt..shows there...tst print says it goes to printer...cups/jobs shows it completed...no printout?
[06:47] <aliasfred> trident523: what is automatix
[06:47] <trident523> Automatix is an installer script that sends the commands to the terminal.
[06:48] <trogbot> also cups/admin keeps asking for user/pw mult times & apparently does nothing...goes to blank page in browser?
[06:50] <trogbot> Can anyone help with above problem?
[06:51] <trident523> trogbot: I thouk you go to localhost, and some port number, that I have forgotten.
[06:51] <trident523> And, can someone help me with my stuck apt-get?
[06:52] <trogbot> go to localhost and prnt shows...admin won't let me set to default...anything.
[06:53] <trogbot> trident523: the port is 631...i've done that.
[06:53] <RogueX> can someone tell me how to mount a windows share?
[06:53] <Tm_T> !samba
[06:53] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:53] <Tm_T> RogueX: there you go ;)
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: mount -t smbfs (the syntax can be found out from smbmount --help)
[06:54] <trogbot> trident523: cups/admin is just acting squirly...i've re-installed, but did not help.
[06:54] <RogueX> Tm_T: Thanks
[06:55] <trogbot> trident523: if i can get printer to work locally and with my home network w/win user's...bye,bye...windows.
[06:55] <RogueX> I was trying to use gui smb4k
[06:56] <RogueX> but it says smbmnt must be installed suid root
[06:57] <RogueX> any ideas?
[06:58] <RogueX> but it says smbmnt must be installed suid root?
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: that is to find out the options
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: sudo mount -t smbfs
[06:59] <Kr4t05> I wonder if someone would ever consider porting KDE to Windows as a replacement for Explorer...
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> Kr4t05: qt on windows is commercial
[07:00] <Kr4t05> h3sp4wn: ah
[07:01] <BKaj> not until windows dumps it's use of the registry
[07:01] <BKaj> or finds a better way
[07:02] <trident523> Still... my apt-get is locked... and I've restarted the computer many times. What should I do?
[07:03] <h3sp4wn> trident523: remove the lock sudo rm /path/to/lockfile (it tells you where it is)
[07:04] <trident523> h3sp4wn: No such directory
[07:05] <trappist> kde can run on windows via cygwin
[07:05] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I was able to mount using Konqueror...
[07:05] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: :)
[07:06] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: And then (I expect from experience) you will try to stream an mp3 from the share and then it won't work (then you will have to do it the other way)
[07:07] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: I just prefer it to happen away from kde
[07:07] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: nope.. but I did copy the .mp3 to the local machine.. :)
[07:07] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I agree and as soon as I figure out how to do it the other way I will :)
[07:08] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: If you use mount -t smbfs then you can just leave them on the remote drive
[07:08] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I was copying them to the local machine (laptop) to take with me.
[07:08] <h3sp4wn> mount -t smbfs //TRITON/UsbDisk /media/samba -o username=h3sp4wn (try something like that)
[07:09] <h3sp4wn> (the first part being the netbios path)
[07:09] <MasterRobie> Hey firefox appears on the lists, only faded out. Any ideas of what I can do? Thanks in advance guys.
[07:09] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: thank you.  any idea how to unmount from Konqueror?  LOL
[07:09] <ricardo> has anybody tried to share mails between linux and windows (using firebird for instance)?? i was thinking about a FAT32 shared partition....
[07:09] <the_hammer> good day
[07:09] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: No idea
[07:10] <Tommy2k4>  gdam-common depends on xlib6g;
[07:10] <Tommy2k4> anyone know where i can get that
[07:12] <trident523> h3sp4wn: I hav removes all of the lock files in or around the deb and apt folders, to no avail.
[07:12] <aliasfred> timo__: thru adept :)
[07:12] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Thanks for all your help.. Leaving for Vac now for a week... woohooo...  lol
[07:12] <aliasfred> Tommy2k4:
[07:13] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: then the following week to Vegas for Blackhat.. :)
[07:13] <ricardo> sorry to repeat....but...
[07:13] <ricardo> sorry to repeat....but...
[07:13] <ricardo> has anybody tried to share mails between linux and windows (using firebird for instance)?? i was thinking about a FAT32 shared partition....
[07:13] <apokryphos> !repeat
[07:13] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:13] <apokryphos> ricardo: :)
[07:14] <trident523> !patience
[07:14] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:14] <MasterRobie> !patience
[07:14] <ricardo> ok sorry guys.....i thought nobody was listening....(snif)...
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> trident523: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock (maybe
[07:15] <aliasfred> btw is there a tutorial on 'how to ask question efficiently' ? if not, it would be good to have. most people coming here are willing to do good, but many has no clue on how to describe efficiently their problem
[07:16] <h3sp4wn> aliasfred: There is a thing by eric raymond about asking good questions
[07:16] <ricardo> aliasfred: i could rephrase my question but i am afraid of being banned....
[07:16] <trident523> h3sp4wn: No go. I'm going to try to restart, and see if that helps.
[07:16] <v3ctor> http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[07:16] <aliasfred> ricardo: from 1000miles, what you are trying to do seems a bad idea, aka it is unlikely to work, the usual solution to share between the 2, is to have a imap server storing the data
[07:16] <aliasfred> ricardo: you wont be banned from here, except if you really try very hard :)
[07:17] <h3sp4wn> trident523: If you have already restarted more than once its unlikely to change anything
[07:18] <knapp> Anyone heree?
[07:18] <aliasfred> h3sp4wn: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html <- this one
[07:18] <h3sp4wn> I think so
[07:18] <aliasfred> h3sp4wn: it seems good but it is too long :)
[07:18] <SoLo18> me to
[07:19] <aliasfred> i should do a summary in a ubuntu wiki somewhere :)
[07:19] <SoLo18> who is nice to help me to instal Avast plss
[07:19] <SoLo18> ?
[07:19] <v3ctor> it is good being long
[07:19] <SoLo18> i`m  new
[07:20] <ricardo> aliasfred: thanks...ill google about that...
[07:20] <v3ctor> takes them a while to get back to bugging you with non-smart questions
[07:20] <aliasfred> v3ctor: or they just dont read it and come anyway :)
[07:22] <trident523> Didnt work.
[07:22] <aliasfred> my point is more 'get a smooth and efficient relationship between the helpees and the helpers' than 'keep the beginers out' :)
[07:23] <aliasfred> get a smooth and efficient relationship between the helpees and the helpers <- wow this is a sentence :) :)
[07:23] <v3ctor> odds are that if they wereto lazy do most of the research described on that page, they are too lazy to read that page
[07:23] <h3sp4wn> agreed
[07:23] <knapp> I need help
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> knapp: read this first http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[07:25] <BKaj> I have a frozen app which the kill signal can't shut down
[07:25] <h3sp4wn> BKaj: kill -9 ?
[07:25] <BKaj> what's -9 ?
[07:25] <aliasfred> look at its window with real angry eyes, sometimes it helps :)
[07:25] <BKaj> :)
[07:26] <v3ctor> -9 == kill with no remorse
[07:26] <aliasfred> -9 = sigkill = do your best to really kill it to the death
[07:26] <aliasfred> some cases remain where -9 doesnt kill but it is rare
[07:26] <v3ctor> try to end process without concern for data or the state of the process
[07:26] <aliasfred> do 'kill -l' to see the list
[07:27] <aliasfred> or 'man kill'
[07:27] <Chousuke> -9 doesn't kill if the process isn't alive.
[07:27] <Chousuke> ie, if it's a zombie.
[07:27] <Chousuke> :)~
[07:27] <Chousuke> -~
[07:27] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> SIGSTKFLT (what does that do ?)
[07:28] <aliasfred> wild guess, when the stack grow and ask for more memory
[07:28] <aliasfred> like 'do sbrk now' or i will cry
[07:29] <v3ctor>  STKFLT         exit      may not be implemented
[07:29] <aliasfred> good man page :)
[07:29] <h3sp4wn> typical - route flush is not even implimented  in linux
[07:29] <knapp> I accidentally removed kdesktop, but when I try to reinstall it it says it depends on kdesktop-bin, but it will not be installed. Its says E: Broken Packages
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Oh I can get X.org to flip out and use 100% of my CPU and kill -9 doesn't kill it and it's not a zombie
[07:30] <BKaj> dumped the app , should n't have installed it anyway - frostwire ...crap
[07:30] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: type 'ctrl-alt-backspace' at the same time
[07:30] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: this 'reboot' X
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Keyboard dies
[07:31] <v3ctor> h3sp4wn: sometimes it's just new manpages are not im plemented ;)
[07:31] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: what about numlock/capslock ? the led are still working ?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> knapp: try apt-get -f install
[07:31] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: Nope
[07:31] <DaSkreech> I can SSH in though
[07:31] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: ok guru solution :) 'press the big red button'
[07:31] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: That's what I do
[07:31] <h3sp4wn> v3ctor: sometimes but I wish route flush was implimented (probably should use ip instead though)
[07:32] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: ah ok if ssh work, it is only X which is dead, and the keyboard is grabbed by X so it is no more wokring
[07:32] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: in theory it is possible to kill it but complex, easier to reboot
[07:33] <knapp> DaSkreech: That did it, thanks
[07:33] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: tell me about it
[07:33] <DaSkreech> knapp: :-)
[07:33] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: well you look at process which take 100% and do kill -9 on them
[07:34] <knapp> DaSkreech: I think some other things were removed too, how can I get those back?
[07:34] <aliasfred> then you start killing process you dont like :)
[07:34] <DaSkreech> knapp: Do you know what they were?
[07:34] <knapp> DaSkreech: I removed one package and it removed konquere, kdesktop, and like 20 others
[07:34] <aliasfred> then you change your video card driver :)
[07:34] <DaSkreech> knapp: Try install kubuntu-desktop
[07:34] <knapp> DaSkreech: ok
[07:34] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: I reinstalled :)
[07:34] <aliasfred> then you may play with some svga stuff to reboot your screen to a normal state :)
[07:35] <aliasfred> i told you it was complex :)
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Which for somereason messed up my hard drive :-(
[07:36] <knapp> DaSkreech: libdrm2 was the package I removed
[07:36] <knapp> DaSkreech: Is there anywhere I can look at a log of what was done?
[07:36] <knapp> apt log of some sort
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Ermm not sure knapp.
[07:36] <Kr4t05> Time to get XGL working again.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Yeah ... I'm sure :-)
[07:38] <DaSkreech> knapp: /var/log/dpkg.log
[07:38] <BKaj> will XGL work on elcheapo ati onboard video xpress 200 ?
[07:38] <h3sp4wn> BKaj: Using fglrx or radeon
[07:38] <BKaj> fglrx
[07:40] <Tommy2k4> configure: error: QTDIR must be properly set.
[07:40] <Tommy2k4> how do i set that
[07:41] <Kr4t05> BKaj: with some extra work.
[07:41] <Kr4t05> BKaj: NVIDIA is usually easier to work with, though.
[07:42] <BKaj> hmmm looked in the hardware section and it says the driver is ati
[07:43] <BKaj> i know when I first configged the monitor res the driver was fglrx
[07:44] <BKaj> Kr4t05:  but I did a driver update since
[07:44] <aliasfred> how do i launch gdb without loading all the symbol in ram ?
[07:45] <aliasfred> my turn to get answered! :)
[07:49] <_chris> can someone help me?
[07:49] <_chris> im trying to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06, but i dont know what it means to change "breezy" to "dapper" in the Adept package manager
[07:50] <aliasfred> yep this 'howtoaskquestion' pages seems neeeded :)
[07:50] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[07:50] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:54] <musiclinux> Kr4t05: thanks for your help earlier with the 15-26 kernel. I installed my nvidia drivers again and everything is great!
[07:55] <musiclinux> _chris: got it sorted now?
[07:55] <musiclinux> _chris: if not let me know and i'll walk you through it
[07:55] <Jack1> is someone experienced with making a nokia mobile connectable via bluetooth?
[07:55] <Jack1> to dapper?
[08:03] <Harmental> .
[08:03] <Harmental> hi everybody
[08:05] <Harmental> i was wondering if it is possible to make firestarter load at startup automatically without requiring root password (same for kopete)....
[08:05] <will> anyone have a method of picture sharing that they like?
[08:05] <will> On windows I was using Picasa for emailing pics and kodak easyshare for posting on the web
[08:06] <abattoir> will: there is picasa for linux
[08:06] <will> Im planningon installing picasa (which runs on whine and mozilla) but wanted to see if anyone recommends otherwise first
[08:06] <abattoir> will: oh ok
[08:06] <will> abattoir: do you use picasa?
[08:07] <abattoir> will: only picasaweb... i havent tried the desktop software yet
[08:07] <abattoir> but if you want online integration, i dont know what else is there
[08:08] <abattoir> there is digikam, but i dont think it has all these fancy online sharing features
[08:08] <abattoir> !digikam
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about digikam - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:08] <abattoir> !info digikam
[08:08] <ubotu> digikam: digital photo management application for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2~rc1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 4077 kB, installed size 9724 kB
[08:09] <abattoir> will: http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/features08x
[08:09] <diego_cl> how can i share the internet connection with a microsoft net  ? !? !? !
[08:09] <serenity> http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/4382/kuxbuntudm5.png
[08:10] <diego_cl> im already sharing the connection when i boot to windows xp, but i want do the same with kubuntu
[08:11] <BKaj> Can someone tell me what Xen actaully is ...somekind of fancy graphics for the desktop ?
[08:11] <abattoir> !xen
[08:11] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
[08:11] <serenity> !xgl
[08:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:11] <serenity> that what you might think
[08:14] <rolando> hi
[08:14] <serenity> hi
[08:14] <osh_> !vmware
[08:14] <will> abattoir: thanks, but I think you're right.  It doesn't seem to support emailing photos
[08:14] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[08:14] <rolando> i have windows in one partition, /home in another and / in another
[08:14] <diego_cl> how can i share my internet connection with ubuntu to a windows ?!  !?
[08:14] <will> I think I'll try picasa out.
[08:14] <rolando> can i install kubuntu over mandriva?
[08:14] <rolando> without problems?
[08:14] <abattoir> will: :)
[08:15] <abattoir> rolando: you want to remove Mandriva?
[08:15] <rolando> yes
[08:15] <abattoir> or install Kubuntu alongside it?
[08:15] <rolando> but would like to keep al the .folders
[08:15] <rolando> want just kubuntu
[08:15] <abattoir> rolando: you mean your home directory?
[08:15] <rolando> yes
[08:15] <abattoir> is it in another partition?
[08:15] <rolando> can i keep it?
[08:15] <abattoir> or in the same on?
[08:15] <abattoir> *one?
[08:15] <rolando> different
[08:16] <will> abattoir: should I be able to find picasa in adept?
[08:16] <will> abattoir: (because I can't)
[08:16] <abattoir> rolando: i dont think so, its not FOSS
[08:16] <rolando> Foss??
[08:16] <abattoir> ugh sorry, that was for will
[08:16] <abattoir> Free and Open Source software
[08:16] <will> !info foss
[08:16] <ubotu> Package foss does not exist in dapper
[08:16] <abattoir> !foss
[08:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about foss - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:16] <diego_cl> what is the command to login freenode ?
[08:16] <rolando> the download google provides is very easy to install
[08:17] <abattoir> rolando: it might not be impossible, but its definitely not recommended
[08:17] <will> abattoir: what is foss?
[08:17] <abattoir> open source software :)
[08:17] <_chris> thank you so much for the help, linux rules
[08:17] <rolando> abattoir: why not? how can i keep my bookmarcs, emails ,etc?
[08:17] <will> abattoir: thx.  trying to learn the language
[08:18] <abattoir> rolando: hmmm, you *can* manually copy those files...
[08:18] <abattoir> rolando: as i said, if you have a different /home partition, its possible
[08:18] <will> abattoir: software for ubuntu works just as well for kubuntu.  correct?
[08:18] <rolando> when installing kubuntu, can i tell it NOT to format /home partition?
[08:18] <abattoir> will: yes :)
[08:18] <rolando> ok
[08:18] <will> abattoir: is all debian software cross compatable?
[08:18] <rolando> ill burn the cd and proceed with the instalation
[08:18] <abattoir> rolando: of course you can, but there are settings under your home folder..
[08:19] <rolando> thanx
[08:19] <rolando> i will just copy those i want
[08:19] <abattoir> will: not *all* there are many packages that are debian/ubuntu specific
[08:19] <rolando> like .mozilla
[08:19] <rolando> .kopete
[08:19] <rolando> etc
[08:19] <abattoir> rolando: that's a good idea :)
[08:19] <BKaj> abattoir: so Xen and VMWare are similar , except Xen can't do windows in Linux
[08:19] <diego_cl> I NEED HELP SETTING UP MY NETWORK ! ! !
[08:19] <rolando> aaaaaadios
[08:20] <abattoir> BKaj: hmmm, i havent tried Xen, But VMWare and Qemu work for me
[08:20] <abattoir> !qemu
[08:20] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:20] <Chousuke> BKaj: Xen can do windows AFAIK, but you need a VT enabled processor for it.
[08:20] <serenity> http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/4382/kuxbuntudm5.png what do you think of this?
[08:21] <Chousuke> BKaj: Xen is also faster than VMware or QEMU
[08:21] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! Kubuntuer's :)
[08:21] <Tm_T> serenity: interesting, though colours :/
[08:21] <Tm_T> serenity: soe blue please ;)
[08:21] <Tm_T> s/soe/some/
[08:22] <serenity> Tm_T: like the original ubuntu logo
[08:22] <serenity> only warm colors
[08:22] <Tm_T> serenity: true
[08:22] <Tm_T> serenity: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/k-ed-ubuntu/images.html
[08:22] <Tm_T> serenity: something I played around some time ago
[08:23] <serenity> Tm_T: also very nice...just 10 min doodling with gimp, just as proposal
[08:24] <Tm_T> serenity: ugh, interesting subject to play around
[08:24] <Harmental> hi everybody
[08:24] <Harmental> i was wondering if it is possible to make firestarter load at startup automatically without requiring root password (same for kopete)....
[08:24] <serenity> Tm_T: ugh?
[08:24] <Tm_T> serenity: imo we should show thru artwork that we are all one big *ubuntu family :)
[08:25] <Tm_T> serenity: "yes"
[08:25] <serenity> Tm_T: yipp, ur right. We all share the same system core
[08:25] <Tm_T> yes
[08:26] <mehdigrenoble_> bonjour
[08:27] <mehdigrenoble_> j'aimerais savoir si il y a un grabit sous linux ?
[08:27] <Harmental> mehdigrenoble_: tu travailles au cea?
[08:28] <mehdigrenoble_> On ce connait ?
[08:29] <Healot> !fr
[08:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:29] <cristiano> hello all
[08:29] <cristiano> i have a prob with apache2 on kubuntu
[08:29] <cristiano> i've installed all the packages required from the repos
[08:30] <mehdigrenoble_> sorry i tought im in _fr
[08:30] <cristiano> but when i give "apache2" in command line it says "Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"
[08:30] <BKaj> mehdigrenoble_: grabit pour IRC ?
[08:30] <cristiano> and then "(13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80"
[08:30] <Healot> non probleme... mehdigrenoble_
[08:31] <trappist> cristiano: you start it via /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[08:31] <mehdigrenoble_> yes
[08:31] <cristiano> and "no listening sockets available, shutting down"
[08:31] <trappist> cristiano: it has to launch as root to bind to a low port, then it runs as www-data.
[08:31] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: Yo
[08:31] <cristiano> trappist so there is no way to make it start at boot?
[08:32] <trappist> cristiano: sure.  update-rc.d apache2 defaults
[08:32] <BKaj> Il ya des scripts pour grabit cedependant que irc client
[08:32] <trogbot> Can anyone tell me where firefox pw lists..bookmarks...key3.db, etc. files are kept.
[08:32] <cristiano> trappist it looks like it isn't working yet...
[08:33] <mehdigrenoble_> i hear about klibido
[08:33] <cristiano> i mean when i give "localhost" in my browser it gives me an error
[08:33] <trappist> cristiano: try 127.0.1.1
[08:33] <cristiano> done no success at allo trappist
[08:33] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: How goes it?
[08:33] <trappist> cristiano: also, did you start it with /etc/init.d/apache2 start ?
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Healot: Know any Decent howtos on setting up a gateway?
[08:34] <diego_cl> i found some help in google, thanks
[08:34] <trappist> DaSkreech: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/ics
[08:35] <DaSkreech> trappist: Hey! I Know kung Fu!
[08:35] <trappist> :)
[08:35] <trogbot> Can anyone tell me where firefox pw lists..bookmarks...key3.db, etc. files are kept.
[08:35] <diego_cl> is there a task administrator in kubuntu  ?!
[08:35] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: Hey that's a pretty useful link :)
[08:35] <cristiano> trappist yep i did it, now however it looks like it's working...strange thing....mmmm...guessing what happened!
[08:35] <DaSkreech> trogbot: ~/.mozilla
[08:36] <diego_cl> is there a task administrator in kubuntu  ?!
[08:36] <trappist> diego_cl: what does that mean.
[08:36] <trogbot> DaSkreech:  What are the files in /etc/firefox/profile?
[08:36] <diego_cl> sometimes i open programs and they dissapear
[08:36] <cristiano> diego_cl: u mean a "process manager"?
[08:36] <Jack1> is there a way to implement a standby modus to kubuntu?
[08:37] <mehdigrenoble_> someone have fr link
[08:37] <cristiano> diego_cl: if u are lookin for the process currently running just press CTRL+ESC
[08:37] <DaSkreech> trogbot: Default files. Like in /etc/skel
[08:38] <DaSkreech> trogbot: They get copied everytime you create a new profile
[08:38] <trogbot> DaSkreech:  Thanks.
[08:38] <bastiq> I believe my updater has gone crazy. I got some problems whie i updated with it earlier s i quit it. Now it says another program is using the packaging manager. I have tried to reboot
[08:38] <mehdigrenoble_> i see
[08:38] <DaSkreech> bastiq: try dpkg --configure -a
[08:38] <DaSkreech> hi gatekeeper
[08:39] <mehdigrenoble_> bon ben  puisque que le irc french n'existe pas on cauer de la marseillaise
[08:39] <DaSkreech> !fr
[08:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:39] <ponce> Hello! i need help.. I'm sure it's easy, but I don't know the name of the package to apt-get
[08:39] <gatekeeper> Hi DaSkreech how are you doing
[08:39] <mehdigrenoble_> Merci
[08:39] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper: Not bad
[08:39] <ponce> how do I get support for other languages??
[08:39] <bastiq> Ahhh... Thanks DaSkreech.
[08:40] <mehdigrenoble_> bye
[08:40] <DaSkreech> bastiq: Sure
[08:40] <gatekeeper> ponce: in irc?
[08:41] <ponce> no, just for KDE
[08:41] <Jack1> hi can one activate hibernate and suspend in dapper?
[08:41] <bastiq> It failed on sun-java5-plugin
[08:41] <diego_cl> THANKS CRISTIANO, i was looking for that
[08:41] <ponce> you know, I'm installing Kubuntu in a friend's computer
[08:41] <cristiano> diego_cl: u r welcome ;)
[08:42] <gatekeeper> ponce: it will give you a language to choose as part of the installation process
[08:42] <trogbot> DaSkreech:  I've got a mozilla-thunderbird folder under /etc....but nothing is in it.  I'm trying to get my saved ff stuff into linux ff.
[08:42] <ponce> and he can't speak english... I'd like to switch into spanish, but language packages are not installed
[08:44] <bastiq> I get this. dpkg: dependanceproblems prevents configuration of sun-java5-plugin: (i suck at translating)
[08:45] <trogbot> DaSkreech:  Nevermind...think i found it.
[08:46] <Healot> !multiverse
[08:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:46] <gatekeeper> ponce: there is lots of stuff to do with languages in the repos
[08:46] <gatekeeper> !language
[08:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:46] <gatekeeper> nope not that one silly bot :-)
[08:47] <gatekeeper> !language-support
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about language-support - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:47] <ponce> :)
[08:47] <trogbot> !firefox
[08:47] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:47] <Generic> is it just me, or does youtube not sync up in linux
[08:48] <GIGANTOR> generic- i'm having problems with that same thing. It's some kind of flash issue, i think
[08:48] <bastiq> is apt-get dist-upgrade -f a good idea or does it mess something up?
[08:49] <Ashex> Yeah, it drives me nuts
[08:49] <Ashex> especially since everyone hosts their videos on youtube :/
[08:49] <ponce> GIGANTOR, that's happening to me too, (using firefox and slackware)
[08:49] <GIGANTOR> good, i was wondering if i was the only one  ;P
[08:49] <GIGANTOR> same, using firefox with it
[08:49] <Ashex> I've tried using Konqueror, but no luck
[08:49] <GIGANTOR> *scraches chin*
[08:49] <Ashex> and there's no native .flv player :/
[08:50] <GIGANTOR> afk one sec, phone
[08:50] <bastiq> Whats wrong with the sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb packade?
[08:50] <bastiq> package*
[08:52] <Ashex> bastiq, you tell me :P
[08:52] <bastiq> Kill me. I had to scroll to the bottom of the licence agreement and accept before pressing next :P
[08:52] <GIGANTOR> back
[08:53] <GIGANTOR> lol bas
[08:53] <bastiq> Not enough with that they hid the agree button quite well. They made it possible to press next before accepting it too :P
[08:55] <Ashex> hmm
[08:55] <Ashex> maybe installing a flv player in wine and running that?
[08:56] <patrick__> How can you open ports on the firewall in kubuntu?
[08:57] <jamardi> hi
[08:58] <Ashex> !tell patrick_  about iptables
[08:58] <Ashex> !iptable
[08:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about iptable - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:58] <Ashex> bah
[08:58] <Ashex> uboto, you suck
[08:58] <Healot> !iptables
[08:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[08:59] <Healot> Ashex: you s :)
[08:59] <Ashex> I didn't get a notification from ubotu the first time :P
[09:03] <patrick__> Does firestarter automatically oversride the other firewall?
[09:03] <h3sp4wn> patrick__: firestarter just is a gui for the other firewall
[09:04] <SoLo18> who knows how to install ircu2.10.11.07?
[09:04] <gatekeeper> patrick_hiya h3sp4wn how are you doing?
[09:05] <gatekeeper> ooops I'll try again
[09:05] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn how are you doing?
[09:05] <h3sp4wn> Alive
[09:05] <h3sp4wn> Not tired  - so pretty well
[09:05] <luc45> lol
[09:06] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn: good to hear, a bit cooler here tonight which is nice :-)
[09:06] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: Definately
[09:07] <thompa> i cant play any mp3s for some reason, they open in amarok and just sit there
[09:07] <luc45> !mp3
[09:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <thompa> luc45: ive tried all that
[09:08] <Ashex> have you tried it in other players?
[09:08] <gatekeeper> thompa: you running the xine engine or something else?
[09:08] <Ashex> like xmms or mplayer or something of that sort?
[09:09] <thompa> ive installed xine yes, im on the 64 bit version of ubuntu if that matters
[09:09] <Ashex> thompa, have you played the files in another player?
[09:09] <GIGANTOR> how do you do an action in IRC
[09:10] <GIGANTOR> like if i wanna slap someone with a trout..
[09:10] <GIGANTOR> i haven't used IRC since before AOL
[09:10] <GIGANTOR> =\
[09:10] <luc45> GIGANTOR use /me
[09:10] <GIGANTOR> *before AOL ever came out
[09:11] <GIGANTOR> =)
[09:11] <GIGANTOR> thanks luc
[09:11] <luc45> yw
[09:11] <diego_cl> I NEED TO SHARE MY CONNECTION !
[09:11] <thompa> Ashex: ive tried all the players, it opens but does not move forward/play
[09:11] <Ashex> crap, i just bought a 12 pack of coke yesterday and i only have 2 left :/
[09:11] <diego_cl> how can i share my connection?   I have 2 netcards
[09:11] <thompa> Ashex: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is installed
[09:11] <Ashex> thompa, have you confirmed that you have sound playing?
[09:11] <gatekeeper> Ashex: that what 36.3C does to you :-)
[09:12] <thompa> Ashex: well i hear system sounds, maybe i will restart the hardware sound
[09:12] <luc45> thompa: r u using 6.06
[09:12] <luc45> thompa: ?
[09:13] <thompa> yes, its the 64 version
[09:13] <luc45> thompa: then u dont need gstreamer
[09:13] <luc45> thompa: plz read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:13] <thompa> i installed everything i could from the restricted formats page, which has a few errors on it btw
[09:14] <Ashex> I purchased some new hardware, cpu, mobo, and hd
[09:14] <Ashex> Will kubuntu boot up on the new mobo
[09:14] <Ashex> or will it require some play work
[09:14] <luc45> thompa: lol just install libxine-extracodecs w32codecs libarts1-mpeglib libakode2-mpeg
[09:16] <thompa> libarts was not installed, the other stuff is sort of
[09:17] <thompa> luc45: do you prefer amarok?
[09:17] <luc45> thompa: now update amarok
[09:17] <luc45> thompa: yes
[09:17] <thompa> luc45: how do i update amarok,
[09:18] <luc45> thompa: you can use adept
[09:18] <thompa> luc45: do you mean reinstall it?
[09:18] <Tommy2k4> are special window settings lost when i close the window
[09:18] <luc45> thompa no
[09:19] <thompa> luc45: everything is updated already
[09:19] <luc45> thompa: have you got universe and multiverse enabled?
[09:19] <thompa> yes
[09:19] <luc45> allright
[09:20] <thompa> si i click on the mp3 i downloaded for free
[09:20] <MadRush> ah if i do modprobe (modulename) ... should i get some thing on the next line?
[09:20] <MadRush> i know if you do modprobe and put a module name you dont have, it will complain, but if its one you do have, what does it do?
[09:20] <thompa> amarok does nothing, it sits in bottom corner, i can see the track
[09:20] <orey> hey
[09:21] <thompa> ive tried double clicking on it and right clicking to play
[09:21] <luc45> thompa: try other player
[09:21] <orey> right click
[09:22] <orey> or restart
[09:22] <thompa> kaffeine wont play either, it says play then stop real quick
[09:22] <notech> MadRush: if no response then it loaded it successfully
[09:23] <thompa> amarok sucks
[09:23] <thompa> especially if you have to click around more than any windows app
[09:23] <tim_> I installed ubuntu yesterday. I can access my window shares via SMB and printer just fine.
[09:24] <MadRush> thanks notech
[09:24] <illatitante> why when i try to install ubuntu appear this: could not find kernel image /casper/.vml ?????
[09:24] <tim_> But I can't access the shared out folders on my Linux system from my Windows machines
[09:24] <Ashex> thompa, this is a stretch, but if you have a usb thumbdrive
[09:24] <tim_> it requests a password
[09:24] <Ashex> drop a song on it and try playing from there
[09:24] <tim_> so I try my Linux username and password
[09:24] <tim_> but that doesn't work
[09:25] <tim_> I think I need to edit the smb file
[09:25] <Ashex> tim_, you need to add a user and password to samba
[09:25] <Ashex> !samba
[09:25] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:25] <thompa> Ashex: all the players gor right from play to stop no matter what mp3 i throw at them
[09:25] <tim_> can I not have the windows machines on my internal lan
[09:25] <tim_> access as guests?
[09:25] <Ashex> thompa, i know, but try loading it from an alternate partition, such as a thumbdrive
[09:25] <tim_> and not require a password
[09:25] <tim_> for those folders
[09:25] <thompa> is is a problem with 64 bit install maybe
[09:25] <tim_> that I choose?
[09:26] <Ashex> Amarok won't play any songs from my main partition but it'll play from my ntfs drive just fine
[09:26] <Ashex> so, it may be a similar problem
[09:26] <thompa> i got windows partition
[09:26] <Ashex> try #amarok
[09:27] <GIGANTOR> man, i love showing off xgl-compiz
[09:27] <tim_> okay, I'll look at the Ubuntu docs on SMB ... thank you for your help. :-)
[09:27] <gatekeeper> these all 64bit problems?
[09:27] <GIGANTOR> >:)
[09:28] <GIGANTOR> everybody at work thinks i'm uber-elite
[09:28] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[09:28] <Kr4t05> GIGANTOR: I would, but I'
[09:28] <Kr4t05> am too lazy :P
[09:28] <thompa> vlc is at leat playing a track but no sound
[09:28] <gatekeeper> tim_: if you have samba installed you can use use the gui to configure K -> System Settings -> Sharing
[09:28] <notech> elite? it doesn't help get any work done.
[09:29] <GIGANTOR> lol, it doesn't matter to them
[09:29] <GIGANTOR> it's linux...  it's scary and crazy
[09:29] <Kr4t05> !games
[09:29] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:29] <GIGANTOR> now they all want me to install a dual boot for em
[09:29] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[09:29] <thompa> WORKS
[09:30] <thompa> Ashex: i had to change hardware to alsa, now it works
[09:30] <GIGANTOR> i think i'm going to switch some of my servers over to linux here at work, just...  ya know...  to ensure my job securitah
[09:31] <thompa> at least vlc works, amarok is a problem
[09:31] <GIGANTOR> while i'm thinking about it, does anyone know if the .net framework functions properly in Wine?
[09:31] <Benan> Hi, can some one tell me the URL for a Kubuntu installation guide???
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> Benan, what do you need help with?
[09:32] <Benan> I need a Kubuntu installation guide :)
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> lol
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> click install
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> choose your language
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> er..
[09:32] <Benan> Its not for me
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> then the partition bit... is that your problem?
[09:32] <Benan> Its for some guy..
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> oh ok, lol  ;P
[09:32] <Benan> No its what hes problem is
[09:32] <linuxmonkey> https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[09:32] <Benan> I just had to help him resize hes drive
[09:32] <Benan> Cheers
[09:33] <gatekeeper> Benan: transition guide: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[09:33] <Benan> also, Is Unbuntu a good distro?
[09:33] <GIGANTOR> very good for teh noobers
[09:33] <Benan> well at the moment I got fedora core 5 installed
[09:34] <gatekeeper> Benan: do you want everything working 'out of the box'?
[09:34] <Benan> What do you mean "Out of the box"?
[09:34] <mo-no> tried to install firefox on my kubuntu system today, but some dependecy was missing. Smeone can help
[09:34] <GIGANTOR> mo- how did you go about it?
[09:34] <luc45> mo-no: best way is to install with adept
[09:35] <Benan> mo-no: what dependencie
[09:35] <luc45> mo-no: *easyest
[09:35] <gatekeeper> Benan: distros like PCLinuxOS come with firefox, java, flash, realplayer 10 etc already installed
[09:35] <Benan> yah so does Fedora ;] 
[09:36] <mo-no> I did download the tar.gz file, unzipped it to the /opt dir and then did the link as described in some help files
[09:36] <Benan> Lets say I downloaded Unbuntu and installed it
[09:36] <Benan> Could I have, Fedora, Windows and Ubuntu going at the same time?
[09:36] <linuxmonkey> mo-no use adept
[09:36] <mo-no> I think something like libgtc ???
[09:36] <GIGANTOR> mo-no-  just use Adept this time as luc45 mentioned, it's really simple to install things with
[09:36] <Benan> on split partitions
[09:37] <GIGANTOR> look under "system" on your kmenu
[09:37] <mo-no> I tried, but it`s grayed. What can I do to select the firefox package?
[09:37] <GIGANTOR> should be first one
[09:37] <GIGANTOR> hmm...
[09:38] <thompa> i can play mp3s in rythmbox but not amarok, could it be because i got 64 bit version
[09:38] <gatekeeper> Benan: if you use virtual machines you could, other you would have to decide at boot up time which to use
[09:38] <GIGANTOR> thompa- look in adept for like an mp3 add on for amarok
[09:38] <GIGANTOR> i think that'll help ya
[09:38] <Benan> yah I know I got grub installed at the moment..
[09:38] <thompa> ok
[09:38] <GIGANTOR> just type in amarok in adept and you should see something
[09:38] <Benan> But grub is installed on MBR so if I installed unbuntu would it get added to the list?
[09:39] <gatekeeper> Benan: yes
[09:39] <Benan> Does ubuntu come with it own BootloadeR?
[09:40] <gatekeeper> Benan: uses grub
[09:40] <GIGANTOR> Grub
[09:40] <Benan> So I just choose NOT to installed grub again, and install Grub on a new split partition..
[09:40] <Benan> Does Ubuntu have a similar installed too Linux..
[09:40] <Benan> Fedora*
[09:41] <Kr4t05> Benan, 6.06 installs from a Live-CD environment.
[09:41] <Benan> I don't like Live CD.
[09:41] <gatekeeper> Benan: my recollection is anaconda asks more questions
[09:41] <poningru_> Benan: use alternative cd then
[09:42] <gatekeeper> Benan: there is an Alt CD with a text installer
[09:42] <Benan> is kubuntu live CD?
[09:42] <thompa> GIGANTOR: seems libxine-extra codecs was not installed
[09:42] <Kr4t05> Ok, BRB
[09:42] <thompa> my repositories are all screwed up
[09:42] <GIGANTOR> thompa- there ya go, try that package out
[09:42] <gatekeeper> Benan: If you google you will find pages that show you the install process screen shots etc
[09:43] <Tommy2k4> how do i open the wallet
[09:43] <GIGANTOR> Benan:  http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=659&slide=4&title=ubuntu+6.06+screenshots
[09:43] <_chris> my kubuntu has officially updated :D:D
[09:43] <GIGANTOR> thats just Ubuntu, not Kubuntu
[09:43] <thompa> GIGANTOR: do i enable the repos, just by clicking the box or do i have to edit each one of them
[09:43] <GIGANTOR> but the installation doesn't differ much, if at all
[09:43] <_chris> thanks for the help earlier, i was able to upgrade to 6.06
[09:43] <gatekeeper> Tommy2k4: is it in your taskbar?
[09:43] <GIGANTOR> right click them, click on enable
[09:43] <Tommy2k4> without the tray icon
[09:43] <Tommy2k4> i dont have the tray applet on
[09:43] <GIGANTOR> but i would just try the universe ones first
[09:43] <Tommy2k4> and id rather not but if i have to
[09:44] <Tommy2k4> i just need it for 1 moment to test something
[09:44] <thompa> GIGANTOR: ive right clicked on all of them and enabled everything now tons of errors, about duplicates and stuff
[09:44] <GIGANTOR> ouch, all of them?
[09:44] <gatekeeper> Tommy2k4: try Run Command... kdesu wallet
[09:45] <thompa> GIGANTOR: well now there are no errors, weird, i guess its fixed
[09:45] <GIGANTOR> lol? ;P
[09:45] <Tommy2k4> dun work
[09:45] <Tommy2k4> wallet aint the name of it i think
[09:45] <GIGANTOR> tell me if amarok works though
[09:45] <GIGANTOR> i don't use amarok
[09:45] <GIGANTOR> just so i'll know
[09:46] <gatekeeper> Tommy2k4: probable kwallet ooops
[09:46] <Tommy2k4> kdewallet i think
[09:46] <thompa> GIGANTOR: amarok, and totem both work
[09:46] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[09:46] <GIGANTOR> right on my man
[09:46] <gatekeeper> Tommy2k4: may be
[09:46] <thompa> thanks, theres no mp3 package i saw though
[09:47] <BKaj> well, I got halfway thru this howto page and non of the sources work to wget these files :
[09:47] <BKaj> wget http://freedesktop.org/%7edavidr/xgl-svn_100.tar.bz2
[09:47] <BKaj> tar -xjvf xgl-svn_100.tar.bz2
[09:47] <GIGANTOR> hmm, still doesn't open mp3's?
[09:47] <thompa> GIGANTOR: what do you use to manage music amarok? i have bunch of cds id like to easily back up using flac i guess
[09:47] <GIGANTOR> i use xmms mostly
[09:47] <BKaj> trying to get Xgl to work
[09:48] <gatekeeper> BKaj: evening - url not found hmmm
[09:48] <thompa> GIGANTOR: it p[alyes mp3s fine, it was libxine codecs is all
[09:48] <GIGANTOR> i don't really "manage" my music though, so i don't know much about it's abilities at that, sorry.  I just click em when i want em
[09:48] <GIGANTOR> lol
[09:48] <thompa> thanks, take care
[09:48] <GIGANTOR> oh ok, i thought you meant it still wasn't playing those.  Cool  ;P
[09:49] <GIGANTOR> thanks, you too thomp
[09:49] <gatekeeper> BKaj: but this is http://people.freedesktop.org/~davidr/ may be your url is slight wrong
[09:49] <thompa> im going to try amarok to manage my stuff
[09:49] <BKaj> evening gatekeeper...yeah it kinda peeves me to see stuuf like this isn't taken down when the links don't work
[09:49] <BKaj> thx
[09:49] <thompa> so 64 bit can do everything but flash, good enough for me
[09:50] <GIGANTOR> god, they still haven't worked that out?
[09:50] <gatekeeper> BKaj: has this come from the forums?
[09:50] <GIGANTOR> well, it's crappy on 32, so i guess i'm not surprised
[09:50] <thompa> they need to fix the restricted formats page
[09:51] <gatekeeper> thompa: presumable you have seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:51] <thompa> some of that stuff does not exist
[09:51] <thompa> cool
[09:51] <GIGANTOR> gate ftw
[09:51] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[09:52] <the_hammer> hello peoples
[09:52] <GIGANTOR> wish my manager would leave early everyday...  this is nice...
[09:52] <thompa> i installed the win32 codecs too and they work, restricted formats has some other explnantion
[09:52] <gatekeeper> evening the_hammer
[09:53] <the_hammer> hows everyone today
[09:53] <the_hammer> i installed yet another linux again lol
[09:53] <gatekeeper> good thanx
[09:53] <the_hammer> good to hear
[09:53] <Tommy2k4> any way to get firefox working with kdewallet?
[09:53] <gatekeeper> which one?
[09:53] <wolfmanz> Can anyone tell me how i remove xmms totally from the file associations so that it dont load up every time i try and access a drive?
[09:53] <the_hammer> using ultima 8.1 now
[09:53] <BKaj> gatekeeper: this is the URL http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090
[09:53] <the_hammer> i just cant get my sounds working there was a command in terminal to use but i forget what it is
[09:55] <GIGANTOR> hammer- is it a digital input by any chance?
[09:55] <gatekeeper> BKaj: had a flick through the other day and noticed that one, haven't got xgl so good luck :-)
[09:55] <the_hammer> nice full operating tho
[09:55] <the_hammer> oops nice full operating system*
[09:55] <the_hammer> has mega options
[09:56] <GIGANTOR> hammer- is your sound output digital, or analog?
[09:56] <wolfmanz> Can anyone tell me how i remove xmms totally from the file associations so that it dont load up every time i try and access a drive?
[09:56] <the_hammer> just wish i could remember the thing to put into the terminal to get sound working
[09:56] <the_hammer> ultima channel was dead so cant even ask in there lol
[09:57] <GIGANTOR> lol
[09:57] <GIGANTOR> Hammer
[09:57] <GIGANTOR> is your output digital, or analog?
[09:58] <the_hammer> for the clock?
[09:58] <Lynoure> Can someone recomend me a hierarchical note manager for kde?
[09:58] <GIGANTOR> ....?
[09:58] <GIGANTOR> for the sound
[09:58] <the_hammer> not sure
[09:58] <GIGANTOR> is it a like optical output or something like that, or spdif
[09:58] <the_hammer> digital i think
[09:58] <teelittle> Hi all, I am having a messed up package management system...
[09:58] <the_hammer> ill tell u in a sec
[09:58] <the_hammer> its just onbord sound
[09:58] <GIGANTOR> or is it just a plain jane output to regular old speakers
[09:59] <teelittle> cannot continue installing packages, because aptitude is stuck with a corrupt "linux-image-2.6.15-26-386"
[09:59] <the_hammer> i have my sterio hooked up through pc
[09:59] <Lynoure> Or a recommandation for an outliner (same thing, different name) is also welcome
[09:59] <the_hammer> just looking through my booklet here brb
[09:59] <teelittle> "dpkg --configure -a" didn't solve it...
[09:59] <teelittle> neither did "aptitude -f install"...
[09:59] <GIGANTOR> well, just try this, just in case..   open Kmix, goto your switches tab
[10:00] <GIGANTOR> see if you see digital on there, and enable it
[10:00] <GIGANTOR> then try
[10:00] <gatekeeper> teelittle: apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[10:00] <GIGANTOR> just to see
[10:00] <teelittle> gatekeeper: tryin' out...
[10:00] <gatekeeper> teelittle: have you got synaptic installed ?
[10:01] <teelittle> gatekeeper: no, I haven't... and apt-get remove didn't work :-(
[10:01] <GIGANTOR> Hammer- check PM's
[10:01] <teelittle> gatekeeper: error "dpkg: error while processing linux-image..."
[10:02] <teelittle> gatekeeper: "package is in very bad, inconsistent state" (my translation...)
[10:03] <teelittle> gatekeeper: it suggests first re-installing the package, then removing - but that doesn't work either *grrrr*
[10:03] <gatekeeper> teelittle: you could try installing synaptic, see if it reckonizes as a broken package that you can remove
[10:03] <gatekeeper> teelittle: are you aptitude?
[10:04] <gatekeeper> teelittle: rather are you using aptitude?
[10:04] <teelittle> gatekeeper: I do have aptitude installed
[10:04] <teelittle> gatekeeper: ...and I doubt I can get synaptic installed
[10:04] <the_hammer> wonder what command i have to sue now lol
[10:04] <gatekeeper> teelittle: it's a cli package like synaptic
[10:05] <teelittle> gatekeeper: the problem with linux-image.... ist that it "conflicts with hotplug <0.0.2004xxx>
[10:05] <teelittle> gatekeeper: tried with aptitude, no success
[10:07] <wolfmanz> Can anyone tell me how i remove xmms totally from the file associations so that it dont load up every time i try and access a drive?
[10:07] <gatekeeper> teelittle: having tried all that I think you need someone with more linux experince than I have got, this is where backup come in handy
[10:07] <teelittle> gatekeeper: it was a fresh install - backup of /home is safe...
[10:08] <teelittle> gatekeeper: thanx for your assistance, anyway!
[10:08] <thompa> ok, i take it back i like amarok now
[10:08] <kosh> sudo apt-get remove --purge xmms    that will remote xmms so completely it won't be associated within anything, it won't even be installed :)
[10:08] <teelittle> kosh: hehe ;-)
[10:08] <thompa> kubuntu 64 works great, i notice a difference between this and 32,
[10:09] <thompa> most my apps open faster, everything seems smooth
[10:10] <Flosoft> hey
[10:10] <Flosoft> I got a big problem ...
[10:10] <thompa> kinfo shows there are 2 processors running 0 and 1, not sure how this works
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> thompa: Do you have dualcore ?
[10:10] <Flosoft> it crashes during boot
[10:10] <thompa> Flosoft: just ask
[10:11] <Flosoft> I get this:
[10:11] <thompa> h3sp4wn: got amd 64 duo core 4200+
[10:11] <h3sp4wn> thompa: So you should have 2 processors working
[10:11] <h3sp4wn> thompa: 0 and 1
[10:12] <thompa> h3sp4wn: im just wondering if they work at the same time
[10:12] <thompa> cool
[10:12] <Flosoft> some number: hde: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61
[10:12] <Flosoft> some number: hde DMA timeout
[10:12] <Flosoft> some number: hde: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest}
[10:12] <Flosoft> some number: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[10:12] <h3sp4wn> thompa: depends on whether the application is multithreaded
[10:12] <OOD> Flosoft: use pastebin
[10:13] <thompa> h3sp4wn: i see
[10:13] <h3sp4wn> thompa: But different apps can run on each processor
[10:13] <thompa> h3sp4wn: i noticed a couple times one processor was at about 80% the other maybe 10, then sometimes balanced both 305
[10:13] <thompa> 30%
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> Depends on the app
[10:14] <thompa> h3sp4wn: cool, so is there anything special i should do?
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> thompa: what does uname -r say ?
[10:15] <Flosoft> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Bs86A875.html
[10:15] <thompa> 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic
[10:15] <wolfmanz> kosh that doesnt work that may remove xmms but konqueror is still looking for xmms when i try and see the contents of a drive
[10:16] <kosh> that is screwy I wonder how xmms ever got set as a default
[10:16] <kosh> and with no fallback
[10:16] <the_hammer> sweet i got my sound :)
[10:16] <Flosoft> I don't know why it doesn't boot :S
[10:16] <wolfmanz> kosh i'm not sure but i dont see a way to fix this other then doing a reinstall of kubuntu
[10:16] <thompa> h3sp4wn: the computer is totally silent i hear nothing
[10:16] <thompa> h3sp4wn: kubuntu boots in about 30 seconds
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> thompa: Perfect
[10:17] <h3sp4wn> thompa: You don't have to do anything
[10:17] <kosh> under konqueror go to settings -> configure konqueror -> file associations
[10:17] <wolfmanz> kosh i have been in there and cant remove it from there a big error shows up if i try to remove it from there
[10:17] <kosh> add something else
[10:17] <kosh> make amarok or noatun the default and move it to the top
[10:18] <wolfmanz> i moved konqueror to the top and it dont make a difference xmms is still being looked for
[10:19] <thompa> h3sp4wn: im thinking about running compiz maybe
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> thompa: What video card are you using ?
[10:20] <thompa> h3sp4wn: things are so stable i dont want to mess up, its like the computer is not on
[10:20] <kosh> wolfmanz: konqueror is not an audio program you don't move it to the top you put something like noatun, kaboodle amaork etc on the top
[10:20] <thompa> h3sp4wn: its the built in one, i have a pci express slot but my card is agp 6600gt
[10:21] <thompa> let me check
[10:21] <kosh> I still have no idea how you could have gotten xmms as the default for everything, it is not even installed by default
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> thompa: Wait until the next nvidia driver release and it will be alot easier
[10:21] <thompa> h3sp4wn: geforce 6150 LE
[10:22] <Kr4t05> h3sp4wn: why? What's in the next Nvidia release?
[10:22] <thompa> h3sp4wn: built in chip
[10:22] <OOD> h3sp4n: whenever that'll be :P
[10:22] <h3sp4wn> Kr4t05: aiglx support (apparantly)
[10:22] <Flosoft> ok ... I found the problem ... a broken HDD?
[10:22] <Kr4t05> h3sp4wn: sweet.
[10:22] <Kr4t05> h3sp4wn: How old are the nvidia-glx binaries?
[10:22] <h3sp4wn> Don't know at all
[10:22] <OOD> in the repository?
[10:22] <Kr4t05> Yeah
[10:22] <OOD> they're up to date
[10:22] <thompa> the on board nvidia is faster so far than my expensive gt card, though that could be the processor and 2G ram also
[10:23] <wolfmanz> kosh i finally remove the hunk of crap about time
[10:24] <Kr4t05> Eekkk
[10:24] <Kr4t05> Lag...
[10:24] <thompa> h3sp4wn: whats aiglx support
[10:24] <Kr4t05> Makes it easier to install/configure aiglx
[10:24] <thompa> i dont know if i need a card on this thing
[10:25] <heinkel_111> Hi guys :-) and girls too!
[10:25] <h3sp4wn> thompa: Avoids having to use xgl (instead of xorg)
[10:25] <h3sp4wn> thompa: So less stuff gets broken
[10:25] <heinkel_111> does anyone have recommendations how to move home directories to a new partition?
[10:25] <Kr4t05> Maybe I should try aiglx instead of XGL.
[10:25] <heinkel_111> will mv home do?
[10:26] <thompa> does aiglx work for compiz then?
[10:26] <heinkel_111> mv /home ?
[10:26] <OOD> Kr4t05: if you have an nvidia card you cant use aiglx
[10:26] <kosh> aiglx is the way it will work in the future
[10:26] <thompa> oh
[10:26] <kosh> that is the one that nvidia supports and says is the correct way to solve the problem and I think that ati does also
[10:27] <OOD> at least not yet, supposedly aiglx will be supported in the next driver release
[10:27] <knapper> Hello: I have a problem with KDM. When I boot up my machine it does the Kubuntu splash n all, once the init process is done the screen flashes and it just shows the kubuntu splash, no kdm.
[10:27] <kosh> the aiglx stuff is also going into/is already etc in xorg 7.1  I think
[10:28] <knapper> I have to switch to another session login, and do startx
[10:28] <knapper> Anyone know how I can fix this?
[10:28] <elbarto> someone knows how to fix the "dead_acute error" with spanish keyboards in Ktouch?
[10:28] <thompa> OOD: so in next nvidia release maybe i can use aiglx which imporves compiz?
[10:28] <OOD> kosh: yea i think it's already in 7.1
[10:28] <kosh> aiglx is supposedly a much better design and uses the video cards better then xgl does
[10:29] <knapper> Anyone?
[10:29] <knapper> plz
[10:29] <thompa> seems bxflag wont work again
[10:29] <thompa> i have to install it from source
[10:29] <thompa> bzflag
[10:32] <gatekeeper> on windows i have got options to clean print nozzles etc, can you do that on linux, and if so where would I find it folks?
[10:34] <digitalslacker> knapper: have you tried reinstalling KDM?
[10:34] <knapper> digitalslacker: I am trying that now
[10:37] <digitalslacker> knapper: reinstalling KDM should also set the runlevel and the session manager accordingly
[10:37] <digitalslacker> in theory anyway, wouldn't know from experience on that one
[10:40] <knapper> digitalslacker: Thanks
[10:40] <GIGANTOR> damn the man, where's aegean when you need him
[10:40] <cpk1> knapper: you trying to change the runlevel?
[10:41] <knapper> cpk1: no, kdm was farked
[10:41] <knapper> cpk1: reinstalled it, wil lfind out if that worked on reboot
[10:47] <Kr4t05> Hey, I have a question.
[10:48] <Kr4t05> I'm dual-booting between 6.06 and XP, and I have a FAT32 partition for games/files shared between both OS's. How can I share my Doom 3 install properly?
[10:48] <cpk1> !fat32
[10:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:49] <cpk1> not sure if you can write to fat32?
[10:49] <cpk1> i think doom will run native on linux though?
[10:49] <Kr4t05> cpk1, no, I know I can read/write.
[10:49] <cpk1> !doom3
[10:49] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[10:49] <Kr4t05> To explain further.
[10:49] <Kr4t05> I have Doom 3 installed with the Windows installer, and I just used the linux installer for doom3.
[10:50] <Kr4t05> How can I link the doom3/base/ dir to Doom 3/base/ ?
[10:50] <slow-motion> n8
[10:51] <BKaj> !Xgl
[10:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:55] <thompa> im trying to install bzflag from source, i have unpacked the source file, but ./configure or make commands dont work
[10:56] <cpk1> thompa: why dont you just apt-get it?
[10:56] <thompa> its broke
[10:56] <thompa> cpk1: there is a bug makes it unusable  http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=8105
[10:56] <the_hammer> man life is awsome hahahaha
[10:56] <Zooliegsm> hi all,i am an ubuntu user but no one knows answer for this there: i played a movie first time....with totem i got very pixelized pics,and with etc kaffeine or gxine i got smooth and nice pics like in windows....whats the problem with totem?
[10:57] <the_hammer> im loving this ultima shit
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> ultima ?
[10:57] <the_hammer> yup ultima 8.1
[10:58] <thompa> why cant i run make
[10:58] <the_hammer> http://www.ultimalinux.com/
[10:58] <cpk1> thompa: you untar bzflag and then run ./configure?
[10:58] <LjL> !b-e > thompa
[10:59] <the_hammer> life is good donkey
[10:59] <the_hammer> lol
[10:59] <thompa> cpk1: ./configure command not found
[11:00] <thompa> ive got build essential installed, hope its not cause of 64 bit
[11:01] <LjL> thompa: if that program doesn't come with configure, i suppose it'll come with something else, or even just a ready-to-run makefile. what error does "make" give?
[11:01] <LjL> also, couldn't you just use the bzflag that's in the repos?
[11:02] <schadon> sera
[11:03] <Zooliegsm> anyone?
[11:03] <thompa> LjL: error about the compressed file, im going to try and download it again
[11:03] <LjL> thompa: hm, what compressed file?
[11:04] <schadon> qualcuno pu dirmi come installare skype su linux che sono nuovo?
[11:05] <LjL> !it
[11:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:05] <thompa> LjL: this one is uncompressing, just a sec
[11:05] <schadon> scusa
[11:05] <LjL> !skype
[11:05] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:05] <latz> hey I got this really strange problem with id3 tags! ... when I listen to something on my hd I get id3 but if I try to listen from a samba sharing it doesn't display any id3 tags ... that's amarok
[11:06] <thompa> LjL: its working, first file was damgeg
[11:06] <thompa> thanks
[11:06] <LjL> latz: hm i'm not sure i'm remembering this correctly, but i recall that for some reason amarok wanted to have write permissions on files, to show id3 tags
[11:06] <latz> LjL alright strange .. but I 'll give it a shot
[11:06] <latz> :)
[11:08] <the_hammer> wow life is good
[11:13] <Tommy2k4> ubuntu is still crashing :(
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> Tommy2k4: Try the kanotix / knoppix or some other live cd (see whether it is a hardware problem)
[11:14] <Tommy2k4> im talking about the monitor saying frequency out of range msg btw
[11:14] <Tommy2k4> just happens randomly for no reason after ive been booted up for a while
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> How do you know it is a ubuntu bug not a hardware bug ?
[11:15] <Tommy2k4> never had this problem on windows
[11:15] <Tommy2k4> and i used to leave the comp on 24/7
[11:16] <h3sp4wn> Tommy2k4: So how do you know its a bug with x or ubuntu or what ?
[11:16] <Tommy2k4> i dont im open to suggestions
[11:17] <Tommy2k4> if it was X then wouldnt ctrl alt f6 show me the terminal, unless X is causing a fault at a deeper level sort of thing
[11:17] <jbaloul> hi all
[11:17] <jbaloul> can anyone direct me to a howto kubuntu + xgl
[11:18] <jbaloul> so far my attempts have failed
[11:18] <Tommy2k4> !xgl
[11:18] <cpk1> !xgl
[11:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:18] <Tommy2k4> ;)
[11:18] <thompa> Tommy2k4: are you using xgl?
[11:18] <Tommy2k4> no
[11:18] <gatekeeper> jbaloul: also have a look on the ubuntu forums
[11:18] <latz> LjL: you were right .. it needs write access on the files .. strange strange
[11:18] <LjL> latz: yeah
[11:19] <thompa> Tommy2k4: what about nvidia
[11:19] <jbaloul> thanks... i will try it out (btw been on the ubuntu forums, nothing that works ;-) )
[11:19] <Tommy2k4> no
[11:20] <thompa> Tommy2k4: disable all your power saving features
[11:20] <thompa> Tommy2k4: how often do you get that message?
[11:20] <Tommy2k4> couple times a day
[11:20] <Tommy2k4> not reproducable at all
[11:21] <thompa> did you check system settings, display , power saving
[11:21] <Tommy2k4> ive had it happen a few times taking screenys, few times watching videos
[11:21] <thompa> i had this happen to me once
[11:21] <Tommy2k4> but the last time was nothing like that
[11:21] <thompa> oh
[11:22] <Tommy2k4> pretty sure display power saving is off
[11:22] <Tommy2k4> turned it off today actually, since i had to reinstall kde yesterday
[11:22] <SpAwN> what package would i need to encode video in x264 ...i only see 2 packages which i installed and ffmepg is still saying i dont have it
[11:22] <Tommy2k4> odd
[11:22] <Tommy2k4> power saving was turned off
[11:22] <Tommy2k4> on*
[11:22] <Tommy2k4> though im sure i turned it off
[11:23] <Tommy2k4> but before i reinstalled kde it was definately turned off and it still used to happen
[11:24] <thompa> Tommy2k4: is your monitor lcd and is it configured properly in xorg.conf
[11:24] <Tommy2k4> crt
[11:24] <wolfmanz> What would cause xmms to play mp3 files on one drive but not the other drive?
[11:24] <Tommy2k4> refresh rates are according to the manual
[11:25] <Tommy2k4> disabled the wacom stuff in xorg.conf
[11:25] <Tommy2k4> chmod permissions perhaps wolfmanz ?
[11:26] <aliasfred> wolfmanz: the path :)
[11:26] <thompa> Tommy2k4: the vertical and horizontal rates? as well as the modelines in xorg.conf
[11:27] <Tommy2k4> yes yes no
[11:27] <wolfmanz> i dont know if its parth or permissions but i know the vlc player will play files on both drives
[11:27] <Tommy2k4> dunno anything about modelines ill take a look now
[11:28] <aliasfred> wolfmanz: ok paste the path of a song which doesnt play.
[11:28] <aliasfred> wolfmanz: i bet there are space or other funky char in it
[11:28] <wolfmanz> media:/hdb1/tempstorage/mp3temp
[11:28] <MadRush-> ok
[11:28] <MadRush-> i give up.  anyone have time to help me get my linksys(ti chipset) wireless card going?
[11:29] <Tommy2k4> whats a modline im not sure what im meant to be looking at in xorg.conf thompa
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> MadRush-: Is it ax100 ?
[11:29] <MadRush-> acx111
[11:29] <aliasfred> wolfmanz: nope, the file path
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> MadRush: Give me 2 seconds
[11:29] <MadRush-> ok
[11:30] <Tommy2k4> nothing in my xorg.conf about modelines
[11:31] <thompa> Tommy2k4: im not too sure how to make your modelines sorry
[11:31] <DaSkreech> That has to be the most annoying bug ever!!
[11:31] <Tommy2k4> !modeline
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about modeline - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:32] <Tommy2k4> ok i used a modeline generator, does anyone know where i put the line it outputs
[11:33] <Tommy2k4> (what section of xorg.conf)
[11:33] <thompa> Tommy2k4: the out of freq, message should mean the horiz and vert.
[11:33] <Tommy2k4> i know but ive set those according to the monitor manual
[11:33] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech what would cause xmms to play mp3 files opn hard drive but not the other?
[11:33] <thompa> whats the graphics driver vesa?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Permissions?
[11:35] <thompa> Tommy2k4: sorry i dont know what else to do, make sure the crt has no seetings on it that are off maybe
[11:35] <SpAwN> should i dl and install a x264 codec from source...?
[11:36] <Tommy2k4> it doesnt
[11:36] <thompa> Tommy2k4: you can try a live distro , see if it works, then check those settings or copy them over
[11:36] <Tommy2k4> how do i find out graphics driver vesa
[11:36] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech no i think they are fine and VLC can play the files from both drives nop problems its xmms thats haveing the issue
[11:36] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: other players play both file fine. and the bad path doesnt include any funky char (space and stuff), just doing the follow up wolfmanz
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Thats part of ffmpeg (which is a pain to compile from source)
[11:36] <Tommy2k4> thompa, its not reproducable and happens after being booted for hours so not really an option
[11:37] <thompa> Tommy2k4: in xorg.conf it says driver
[11:37] <ubuntu> i can't belived
[11:37] <Tommy2k4> i810
[11:37] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, hehe yea it is....ive installed every package containing to x264 and it still says i dont have it
[11:37] <thompa> Tommy2k4: or power problem, pug it in somewhere seperate
[11:37] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Use amarok? :)
[11:38] <wolfmanz> Daskreech i dont think that supports mp3
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: You can build the ffmpeg from debian marrilot but you to need to disable mmx and some other stuff or it won't build i.e its a total pain
[11:38] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: It does
[11:38] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Install libxine-extracodecs
[11:38] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, yea ive never touched debs b4 so i dont think ill be able to rebuild one
[11:39] <thompa> Tommy2k4: all i can say is check your power, try changing some things in xorg.conf resolution maybe,
[11:39] <Tommy2k4> you think there could be a power surge to the pc or something?
[11:39] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Try checking out the ffmpeg cvs (but the thing is making it not conflict with whats already there)
[11:39] <thompa> Tommy2k4: no , but dont have all your stuff in one socket
[11:39] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, im already building from cvs......no conflicts yet.........
[11:39] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: You have Multiverse?
[11:39] <Tommy2k4> well i have pc/monitor/speakers plugged into an extension and thats it
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: I expect the mmx part will fail (or did yesterday)
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: Did you just enable everything ?
[11:40] <Tommy2k4> and tbh id rather put up with a couple crashes a day than make my eyes bleed on 1024x768
[11:40] <wolfmanz> Daskreech yes i would still like to know why xmms is screwing up though
[11:40] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, it compiles fine if i leave out the x264 part...
[11:40] <thompa> Tommy2k4: what kind of monitor is it?
[11:40] <Tommy2k4> DELL E771p
[11:40] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, i did at 1st but had way to many issues with dependencys
[11:40] <Tommy2k4> i looked in the online monitor at the v/h rates and theyre set right
[11:40] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Me too
[11:41] <thompa> Tommy2k4: so it works on the crapy resolution?
[11:41] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, so i took out eveything i didnt need......
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: I managed to build most of it yesterday
[11:41] <wolfmanz> Daskreech would uninstalling it cause xmms to act strange after being re installed?
[11:41] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, with --enable-x264
[11:41] <SpAwN> ?
[11:41] <Tommy2k4> thompa, like i say its hard to tell because not reproduceable and happens after being booted for hours
[11:41] <Tommy2k4> sometimes i go days without a crash
[11:41] <thompa> Tommy2k4: if it works on that other resolution then the problem is still in xorg.conf
[11:41] <Tommy2k4> then 2 in a day or something
[11:41] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: How did you install it?
[11:42] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: I think so
[11:42] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, http://pastebin.ca/93943 ...what i used to config it
[11:42] <wolfmanz> Daskreech adept
[11:43] <thompa> Tommy2k4:  HorizSync 30-70 VertRefresh 50-160 Option "DPMS" , is that what you have?
[11:43] <Tommy2k4> correct
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: I didn't get it working remotely cleanly (using it breaks alot of other stuff)
[11:44] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Well if you want to zero out xmms then you would have to purge it
[11:44] <thompa> Tommy2k4: modes should be maybe Modes "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[11:44] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, hmm that sucks.....the one thats in the repos doesnt have alot enabled
[11:44] <Tommy2k4> Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[11:45] <Tommy2k4> 16bit
[11:45] <gullash> hello
[11:45] <BluDog_Anchorite> what is the name of the kde partitioning app ?
[11:45] <Tommy2k4> i assume ur looking at the online manual and im pretty sure it said max supported is 1280x1024 @ 60hz right
[11:46] <BluDog_Anchorite> i need to repartition my usb thumb drive
[11:46] <gullash> if i install kubuntu amd64, can i run 32bit applications like google earth ?
[11:46] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, would u recomend me removing the cvs ffmpeg?....i realy dont want to fuck up system up
[11:46] <SpAwN> well ill brb dinner time.......
[11:46] <Tommy2k4> i got this from a modeline generator
[11:46] <Tommy2k4> Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062
[11:46] <DaSkreech> !language
[11:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:46] <Tommy2k4> you think i should put it under the monitor section
[11:47] <gatekeeper> gullash: I believe so, example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:47] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech i did that allready and still have this problem
[11:47] <DaSkreech> BluDog_Anchorite: parted
[11:47] <thompa> Tommy2k4: under section monitor
[11:47] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: If you move the fileelsewhere does it work?
[11:47] <Tommy2k4> ok done
[11:47] <MadRush> so, h3sp4wn, about that network card :)
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> MadRush: Did I not pastebin it for you ?
[11:48] <MadRush> if you did i wasnt paying attention. heh.
[11:48] <Tommy2k4> ty for all ur help, dunno if that will fix it or not but can just wait and see
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> MadRush: Are you using wpa ?
[11:48] <thompa> Tommy2k4: i have something else
[11:48] <Tommy2k4> sure
[11:48] <thompa> jsut a sec
[11:48] <Tommy2k4> kk
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> MadRush: I only have a config for using wpa_supplicant with it (and don't have any real interest in anything insecure)
[11:49] <MadRush> ah i wasnt going to use wpa for starters
[11:49] <MadRush> but i was planning on using it once i got things working initially
[11:49] <wolfmanz> DaSkreech ya i have moved files from the one drive over to the main linux drive and they play fine with xmms
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> MadRush: http://pastebin.ca/93923 have a look at that - thats how you need to setup /etc/network/interfaces
[11:49] <MadRush> alrighty
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> MadRush: I find using wpa_cli easier to debug problems than anything else
[11:49] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Have you moved files from the working one to the non owrking one and they no longer work?
[11:49] <thompa> Tommy2k4: that looks right, make sure its set to default to that resolution also
[11:49] <thompa> good luck
[11:49] <Tommy2k4> it is
[11:50] <Tommy2k4> i assume i need to ctrl alt backspace to apply the changes
[11:50] <thompa> yep
[11:50] <Tommy2k4> ok brb
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> MadRush: If you need more information about any of it then ask me
[11:51] <wolfmanz> Daskreech no becasue the drive i would have to move it to is a NTFS drive
[11:51] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Ahh. Hmmm
[11:52] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: Well I think that might be something to lookinto.
[11:52] <Tommy2k4> ok now to my next problem
[11:52] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz: I gotta run though :(
[11:52] <Tommy2k4> when i boot up it tries to open sendmail even though ive apt-get remove sendmail, rm /etc/init.d/sendmail, update-rc.d sendmail remove
[11:53] <cpk1> could anyone tell me why i get an X error when i open gui's from a terminal, here is the full output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18462
[11:53] <thompa> Tommy2k4: one more thing,
[11:53] <thompa> Tommy2k4:
[11:53] <thompa> Monitor "DELL E771p"
[11:53] <thompa> DefaultDepth 24
[11:53] <thompa> SubSection "Display"
[11:53] <thompa> Depth 24
[11:53] <thompa> Modes "1024x768@75"
[11:53] <thompa> sorry
[11:53] <thompa> you should be able to run 24
[11:54] <Tommy2k4> cpk1, comment out the 3 wacom sections in xorg.conf and the 3 references to them at the bottom
[11:54] <thompa> did not mean to paste that
[11:54] <gatekeeper> cpk1: not sure why you get the errors but would suggest you use Run Command...
[11:54] <SpAwN> is there any way i can easily modify the ffmpeg deb to include more things.......
[11:54] <Tommy2k4> i used to run 24bit but someone suggested it might stop the crashes
[11:54] <Tommy2k4> and it did for a while
[11:54] <Tommy2k4> probably coincidental though
[11:55] <thompa> i would think the optimal is best
[11:55] <gatekeeper> !deb
[11:55] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[11:56] <diego_cl> how can I hear mp3 files with amaroK ?
[11:56] <SpAwN> !restriced
[11:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about restriced - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:56] <SpAwN> diego_cl, ^^
[11:56] <Tommy2k4> !mp3
[11:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:56] <SpAwN> doh
[11:57] <Tommy2k4> ;)
[11:57] <SpAwN> !restricted
[11:57] <SpAwN> oh well it used to know abou it
[11:57] <Tommy2k4> probably the spam block
[11:57] <SpAwN> yea
[11:58] <cpk1> Tommy2k4: the gui's dont crash, its just annoying having that spam my terminal
[11:58] <Tommy2k4> i know, do what i said and it will get rid of them
[11:58] <SpAwN> !sources
[11:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:58] <SpAwN> !easysource
[11:58] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:59] <Tommy2k4> when i boot up it tries to open sendmail even though ive apt-get remove sendmail, rm /etc/init.d/sendmail, update-rc.d sendmail remove
[11:59] <gatekeeper> diego_cl:  Install libxine-extracodecs and w32Codecs
[11:59] <diego_cl> THANKS !
[11:59] <cpk1> Tommy2k4: (14:54:34) Tommy2k4: i used to run 24bit but someone suggested it might stop the crashes
[11:59] <cpk1> (14:54:39) Tommy2k4: and it did for a while wasnt directed towards me?
[12:00] <diego_cl> gatekeeper: is this package amarok's compatible ?
 cpk1, comment out the 3 wacom sections in xorg.conf and the 3 references to them at the bottom
[12:01] <gatekeeper> I use amarok with the xine engine and libxine-extracodecs and w32Codecs, does all my needs thus far
[12:01] <Tommy2k4> my other replies were aimed at thompa
[12:01] <gatekeeper> diego_cl: I use amarok with the xine engine and libxine-extracodecs and w32Codecs, does all my needs thus far
[12:01] <diego_cl> gatekeeper:  after the installation, do i have to change the amaroks settings ?
[12:02] <SpAwN> i wonder if a 3rd party repo would have a better version of ffmpeg
[12:02] <gatekeeper> diego_cl: check which engine it is using
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> MadRush: Any luck ?
[12:03] <diego_cl> gatekeeper:  motor xine
[12:04] <gatekeeper> diego_cl: sounds ok, just install those codecs and you should be in buisness
[12:04] <gatekeeper> night all
[12:04] <diego_cl> THANKS!!
[12:05] <wolfmanz> Anyone have any idea why sometimes firefox takes a while to load up?
[12:06] <diego_cl> i think this is normal the first time of the sesion
[12:06] <Tommy2k4> because its firefox
[12:06] <wolfmanz> well i run firefox on my xp machine and its nearly iodentical to this machine and the xp firefox is instant when i load that up
[12:08] <snikker> how make working flash sound unnder amd64?