| jwest- | maybe try this tommorrow | 12:12 |
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| jwest- | thanks though | 12:12 |
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| zul | hey | 12:56 |
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| kylem | benc. ok. i found the problem. | 01:37 |
| kylem | but my wireless crapped out before i was able to mention it. | 01:37 |
| zul | aiie....slow close | 01:39 |
| kylem | fuck, and it is crapping out now. | 01:43 |
| zul | i blame the westin | 01:44 |
| zul | ...and i should be there tomorrow | 01:44 |
| kylem | nice. | 01:45 |
| kylem | BenC, would it help if i fed you parisc patches? i can probably pretty easily automatically populate a tree. | 01:45 |
| BenC | _kylem: If I can git-pull them against 2.6.17.x, then yeayh | 01:46 |
| BenC | or against a clone of the ubuntu git tree | 01:47 |
| kylem | okie doke. | 01:48 |
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| BenC | so what's the problem? | 01:54 |
| kylem | you pulled the async scsi scanning stuff from the parisc tree. unless scsi is built into the kernel (so it can be __init) it won't pause and wait for the async scan to complete. | 01:54 |
| kylem | i'm genning a diff to revert that bit. | 01:55 |
| kylem | otherwise there's a bit in cvs now that gives you a module to load. | 01:55 |
| kylem | (it's designed to be the last thing the initramfs loads, and waits for scans to completE) | 01:55 |
| BenC | oh really? | 02:13 |
| BenC | that'd be interesting...Kamion would actually like it so he doesn't have to load ide_generic in weird ways | 02:14 |
| BenC | but that doesn't solve the problem of our current config not even getting serial output | 02:14 |
| BenC | s/serial/console/ | 02:14 |
| zul | BenC, when you get a sec can you check my kernel config and im not on crack or anything my initrd seems to be failing | 02:58 |
| BenC | xen? | 03:01 |
| zul | yep | 03:01 |
| fabbione | morning guys | 04:17 |
| zul | you are up early | 04:18 |
| fabbione | yeah change of core hours | 04:18 |
| fabbione | it's too warm during the day | 04:18 |
| zul | ah | 04:18 |
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| BenC | fabbione: I have it pulled, just finishing some things up before a push | 05:22 |
| fabbione | BenC: cool! thanks a lot dude | 05:25 |
| fabbione | getting this redhat stuff sorted has been a real pain | 05:25 |
| fabbione | but i am down to 4 patches from 13 | 05:25 |
| fabbione | all the other 9 have been absorbed upstream | 05:26 |
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| pmjdebruijn | hi | 09:41 |
| pmjdebruijn | how can I change the ubuntu-kernel configs through menu config? | 09:56 |
| pmjdebruijn | I only see the old config stuff in on wiki | 10:01 |
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| zul | hi | 02:18 |
| pmjdebruijn | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18429 | 02:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | why does the dapper kernel break when compiled on Debian? | 02:19 |
| bernard_ | pmjdebruijn: i suspect it broke because acpi is not enabled | 02:25 |
| pmjdebruijn | bernard_, yeah, right... but that should be considered a bug right? | 02:26 |
| bernard_ | yup. i guess ubuntu kernels are rarely compiled with acpi off. it should be a trivial fix though. if you look inside arch/i386/kernel/setup.c, the call to check_acpi_pci() just needs to move inside the #ifdef CONFIG_ACPI block. | 02:32 |
| pmjdebruijn | hmm right | 02:35 |
| pmjdebruijn | it's already surrounded by a #ifdef CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC | 02:39 |
| bernard_ | yes. it needs to go inside CONFIG_ACPI also. | 02:41 |
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| pmjdebruijn | bernard_, ok, will do | 02:49 |
| pmjdebruijn | if my fix/patch works, where should I submit it, it seems asif launchpad doesn't accept kernel bugs | 03:09 |
| zul | yes it does | 03:09 |
| zul | look for linux-source-2.6.15 | 03:10 |
| zul | BenC: my kernel-package patch works | 03:11 |
| pmjdebruijn | oh and how do I figure out which IO scheduler I'm using? | 03:14 |
| pmjdebruijn | my dmesg doesn't clear that up | 03:14 |
| makx | grep sched /var/log/dmesg | 03:15 |
| makx | indicated by the (default) line | 03:15 |
| pmjdebruijn | makx, I have no (default) line | 03:16 |
| pmjdebruijn | that's my point | 03:16 |
| maswan | pmjdebruijn: /sys/block/<device>/queue/scheduler | 03:17 |
| pmjdebruijn | noop [anticipatory] deadline cfq | 03:18 |
| pmjdebruijn | right! | 03:18 |
| pmjdebruijn | that's what I was afraid of... anticipatory is still default :( | 03:18 |
| pmjdebruijn | I'm trying to backport the edgy kernel to dapper | 03:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | and I'm getting this: | 03:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18437 | 03:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | I'm doing to this primarily to see whether there have been fixes to usb-mass-storage, because my usb-mp3-player doesn't work properly | 03:56 |
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| Keybuk | "His suggestion was to merge it into x86-64 as a sort of special case - making Andi Kleen its maintainer in the process. Andi showed a striking lack of enthusiasm for this idea." | 04:18 |
| Keybuk | hahaha | 04:18 |
| Keybuk | (on i386) | 04:19 |
| thom | heh | 04:31 |
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| fabbione | BenC: http://librarian.launchpad.net/3501440/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-sparc.ocfs2-tools_1.2.1-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 05:04 |
| fabbione | are headers still broken on sparc? | 05:04 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: freeze is over now, so you're free to upload your kernel stuff. | 05:05 |
| BenC | Mithrandir: thanks | 05:05 |
| BenC | fabbione: shouldn't be | 05:05 |
| fabbione | BenC: looks like we are still missing headers.... | 05:06 |
| makx | Keybuk: any conterargs if i kill of the prereqs stuff in initramfs-tools? | 05:13 |
| Mithrandir | makx: uh? | 05:13 |
| Keybuk | makx: I've always thought it was silly, as it wastes time on boot ... I always thought we should just assemble it in the right order at update-initramfs time | 05:14 |
| Keybuk | *BUT* jbailey will point out the initramfs is supposed to be runtime assembled | 05:14 |
| Keybuk | which is why you need the PREREQS | 05:14 |
| makx | Keybuk: what about numerical order aka 05evms 10md 20lvm 90cryptsetup | 05:15 |
| Keybuk | it's allegedly less flexible | 05:15 |
| makx | prereqs has no easy way to be first or last | 05:15 |
| Keybuk | I was actually mulling the idea of maybe replacing the initramfs init with upstart ... ;) | 05:15 |
| makx | prereqs wasts boot time and hinders klibc only plan | 05:16 |
| makx | what is upstart? | 05:16 |
| zul | BenC: ill send you the patch tonight for kernel-package its a very small patch | 05:17 |
| makx | also lots of script writer get-their.name-totally_wrong | 05:17 |
| BenC | fabbione: Actually, it looks more like sparc headers are just broken | 05:20 |
| fabbione | <fabbione> are headers still broken on sparc? <- | 05:20 |
| fabbione | :) | 05:20 |
| BenC | fabbione: the include for those headers should probably be wrapped in __KERNEL__ | 05:20 |
| BenC | actually, why is ocfs2 including page.h anyway? | 05:21 |
| BenC | on all other arches, it is an empty file | 05:21 |
| BenC | in lkh at least | 05:21 |
| fabbione | BenC: no idea | 05:22 |
| fabbione | it was building before | 05:22 |
| makx | Keybuk: google doesn't give hints on upstart? -v | 05:24 |
| Keybuk | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReplacementInit | 05:24 |
| Keybuk | makx: why do prereqs affect klibc-only? | 05:24 |
| BenC | fabbione: I'd edit mount.ocfs2.h and remove the asm/page.h include | 05:24 |
| fabbione | BenC: can you make sure that's the right thing to do? | 05:25 |
| BenC | fabbione: nm, I see the problem...it'll be fixed in the next upload | 05:25 |
| fabbione | ok | 05:26 |
| fabbione | thanks | 05:26 |
| BenC | that actually is the right thing, but I can work around it | 05:26 |
| fabbione | well if it's the right thing i can do it | 05:26 |
| makx | Keybuk: basename usage - thought to get rid of both as prereqs is flacky | 05:26 |
| fabbione | i am just on the edge every day to leave stuff in proper order | 05:26 |
| BenC | fabbione: it's the right thing, but I'm not sure it will work :) | 05:27 |
| makx | Keybuk: btw thx for the doc | 05:27 |
| fabbione | BenC: exactly :) | 05:27 |
| Keybuk | makx: it's intended as our replacement for /sbin/init in the real root ... but for edgy+1 it may make some sense to start it in the initramfs instead <g> | 05:27 |
| pmjdebruijn | anybody here a clue why this fails: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18437 | 05:28 |
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| fabbione | BenC: it looks like we will need to go and dig into GFS2/GFS failures. According to upstream it works for them and it fails with our kernel | 05:35 |
| BenC | lamont: ping | 05:35 |
| makx | Keybuk: there is an side issue not mentioned in this spec, usually when you upgrade a Debian box you find lots of devices running that weren't before | 05:35 |
| Keybuk | makx: "devices running" ? | 05:36 |
| makx | Keybuk: sorry to warm s/devices/services/ | 05:36 |
| pmjdebruijn | oh silly me, it's because of the extra tag | 05:36 |
| Keybuk | makx: right, upgrade brings in new services ... ? | 05:37 |
| BenC | well, it might bring in new devices too :) | 05:37 |
| BenC | ipw3945 comes to mind | 05:37 |
| makx | Keybuk: no postinst brings new service that wasn't running before upgrade | 05:37 |
| Keybuk | BenC: if an upgrade to etch upgraded my atheros to an ipw3495 I'd be impressed | 05:37 |
| Keybuk | makx: oh, right ... the way a postinst starts a service you explicitly stopped | 05:37 |
| BenC | ah, I thought you meant general upgrades | 05:38 |
| makx | Keybuk: yup | 05:38 |
| pmjdebruijn | bernard_, thanks for the help, I posted it: https://launchpad.net/bugs/53533 | 05:39 |
| bernard_ | pmjdebruijn: looks good! ta. | 05:43 |
| makx | Keybuk: daemontools are not mentioned, they are the best for keeping services up atm | 05:50 |
| Keybuk | makx: that goes nowhere near the use cases mentioned | 05:51 |
| makx | Keybuk: matches Corey | 05:51 |
| Keybuk | which is near the bottom, no? | 05:53 |
| makx | second use case afais | 05:53 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: any chance you can upload udev to fix libvolumeid today? | 05:54 |
| Keybuk | fabbione: yes | 05:55 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: thanks dude | 05:55 |
| zul | makx: is there any changes to initramfs that debian did for xen? | 05:56 |
| makx | run depmod if that wasn't run previously | 05:57 |
| zul | ah ok | 05:57 |
| zul | if anyone is interested the proceddings for ols is up http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2006/proceedings.php | 06:27 |
| makx | Keybuk: it would be cool if that init could snapshot like resume to disk some parts of the boot process :) | 06:46 |
| Keybuk | makx: how do you mean? | 06:48 |
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| zul | wohoo.. | 06:48 |
| zul | xen_mem: Initialising balloon driver. | 06:48 |
| makx | Keybuk: idea from aboves ols proceeding | 06:49 |
| Keybuk | makx: -v please :p | 06:49 |
| makx | see "Improving Linux Startup Time Using Software Resume" | 06:49 |
| makx | this ols papers features the idea of snapshot booting | 06:50 |
| mjg59 | It's not a bad idea | 06:50 |
| mjg59 | Would need careful integration work, though | 06:51 |
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| makx | Keybuk: using shell parameter expansion instead of basename, works well. so leaving the prereqs for now. | 08:44 |
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| kriebly | my Dell Precision 470's aren't happy with the kernel I compiled from linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-26.45 :( | 12:09 |
| kriebly | need to do more troubleshooting... | 12:10 |
| kriebly | i probably missed something simple | 12:10 |
| kriebly | cd /join nethack | 12:10 |
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