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phanaticany MOTUs around who could possibly review and upload a package? (not a new one, just ubuntu revision bumped)12:15
sladenphanatic: paste the URL!12:16
crimsunURL?12:16
Toadstool:)12:16
phanaticsladen, crimsun: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=258512:17
sladenphanatic: sysinfo is a fairly generic name, is there anything of that description already in the debian or ubuntu archives12:20
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sladenphanatic: the package looks good otherwise12:21
phanaticsladen: it's already in ubuntu (dapper)12:21
sladenphanatic: ah okay.  +1 from me12:21
phanaticsladen: thanks12:21
crimsunphanatic: have you test-built?12:21
phanaticcrimsun: yeah, with pbuilder too (edgy chroot). the fixes are confirmed to work...12:22
crimsunuploaded.12:22
phanaticcrimsun: thanks12:24
crimsunnp12:24
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zulhey12:56
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zulgah..01:21
FunnyLookinHatagreed.01:27
FunnyLookinHat: P01:27
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bddebianHeya gang01:51
crimsunhey, go back to your vacation :-)01:53
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bddebianHmm, I see crimsun missed me :'-(01:54
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FujitsuWhat is the appropriate course of action if a package fails to work when compiled with GCC 4.1 unless -O0 is used? vpnc's latest upload doesn't work for that reason.01:55
Kyraluse -O0?01:56
crimsunthen we build it with -O0 until the bug is fixed.01:56
FujitsuOK, I'll make it use -O0, and get it reuploaded.01:57
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bddebianHeya Hobbsee02:32
crimsunHobbsee & Toadstool are our newest MOTU02:35
bddebianw00t02:35
bddebianCongrats Hobbsee, sorry I missed the meeting, I was out of town :-(02:35
FujitsuHobbsee, congrats!02:36
carthikcongrats Hobbsee (I thought you were already one)02:39
carthikI'm just waiting for crimsun's MOTU school lecture - immediately after which I'll be there with you ;)02:39
Hobbseehi bddebian crimsun Fujitsu carthik02:44
Hobbseecarthik: hehe!  nope :)02:44
Hobbseebddebian: fair enough, i had enough people to cheer.  and i said that whoever didnt approve me would be the next one bugged for uploads02:45
Hobbsee:P02:45
Hobbseethanks all :)02:45
Hobbseecrimsun: yeah.  only had 3 rejected so far :P02:45
FujitsuOut of how many, Hobbsee?02:49
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HobbseeFujitsu: dunno, check edgy-changes mailing lsit02:50
whiprush_congrats Hobbsee and ToadZzZztool!02:51
Hobbseewhiprush_: thanks :D02:53
Fujitsu33, looks like :)02:53
HobbseeFujitsu: that high?   nice02:54
FujitsuI've just got 11 so far... And one of them is b0rked due to silly GCC 4.102:55
Laser_awaywoah, MOTUs actually upload things? ;-)02:57
HobbseeLaser_away: heh.  more when they arent MOTU's :P02:58
crimsunonly ones who matter ;-)02:58
HobbseeFujitsu: ah yes02:58
Hobbseecrimsun: hehe!02:58
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Laser_awayHobbsee: that's right. You work hard to get MOTU and then you slack for the next 2 years ;-)02:58
bddebianLaserJock!! :-)02:59
HobbseeLaserJock: hehe :)02:59
HobbseeLaserJock: not if i want core...02:59
LaserJockbah, who wants core when you can have so much fun in Universe ;-)03:00
bddebianYeah, exactly :-)03:00
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crimsunsadly, there are a fair number of MOTU who have become inactive (in terms of uploading and maintenance) most probably due to time constraints03:00
bddebiancrimsun: Have you not gotten to ivtools yet?03:00
LaserJockyes, sadly03:00
crimsunbddebian: I've not fixed it yet; I'm waiting for you to do that since I did it for you last time ;-)03:01
LaserJockI'd upload more but I seem to be stuck working on other things and getting other people ready to upload :-)03:01
bddebiancrimsun: Oh, heh03:02
crimsunyay, drama in pkg-*-devel03:02
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LaserJockcrimsun: yeah?03:03
bddebian?03:03
crimsunLaserJock: hardly, you last uploaded at Sat Jul 8 03:35:09 BST 200603:03
crimsunor rather that's when katie accepted03:03
crimsuns/katie/newSoyuzWorldOrder/g03:03
LaserJockI've sponsored at least 1 since then too03:04
LaserJockstill03:04
LaserJocknot very much03:04
LaserJockit'd be nice if I could just package03:04
crimsun"with great privilege..."03:04
bddebianHuh?03:05
crimsun[comes great responsibility] 03:05
LaserJockunfortunatley my boss got back from his 1 week vacation today03:05
LaserJockso tomorrow I'm supposed to show him all the research I did while he was gone03:06
crimsunmy co-PIs called from their vacations :-(03:06
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crimsunended up having a conference call at 7 AM. Grr.03:06
LaserJockouch, that stinks03:06
crimsunthankfully I had been awake chasing bugs anyhow03:07
HobbseeLaserJock: me. because some of my packages got bumped to main.  and it whinges when i try to upload to main.03:07
Hobbseecrimsun: great responsibility is fun though03:07
LaserJockfun?03:08
crimsuntrue, is it.03:08
crimsunit is ^03:08
crimsunI think I'm distracted by the attractive young lady sitting near me in the coffee shop03:08
crimsun(d'oh)03:08
LaserJockhehe03:08
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Hobbseewhat's the debian equivalent of launchpad builds?  or of edgy changes?03:08
LaserJockI keep trying but I just can't get away03:09
crimsunhttp://packages.qa.debian.org/srcpackage03:09
jsgotangcohmm k3b hates rhythmbox03:09
LaserJockHobbsee:03:09
Hobbseethanks03:09
LaserJockHobbsee: http://buildd.debian.org/03:10
bddebiancrimsun: :-)03:11
LaserJockjsgotangco: hehe, why should they like each other? rythmbox says, "You're so elitest with all that configurablity" and k3b fires back "oh yeah, well my widget set can beat up your widget set any day"03:12
micahcowanmostly OOC... if I'm preparing packages for software that I wrote myself, do I bother to tack on the -0ubuntu1 bit? Prolly not, huh?03:14
Hobbseedebian 37658603:14
UbugtuDebian bug 376586 in dar "Subject: dar: Library not found after upgrade to 2.3.0-3" [Grave,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/37658603:14
LaserJockmicahcowan: you are packaging *for* yourself or you are the upstream author of the software?03:15
micahcowanLaserJock: upstream author.03:15
FujitsuI'm getting a rather odd error when trying to pbuild my new vpnc:03:16
Fujitsusu: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.03:16
crimsunmicahcowan: do you intend to get it into Debian before getting it into Ubuntu?03:16
crimsun(hopefully the answer is "yes")03:16
LaserJockmicahcowan: you should probably add -0ubuntu1 (assuming it isn't already in Debian) and not create a native package (i.e. keep the debian/ out of the source tarball)03:16
micahcowancrimsun: I... probably intend to stick it on REVU?03:16
micahcowanUbuntu first, I think.03:17
LaserJockcrimsun: don't you know, we don't contribute back upstream? ;-)03:17
bddebianheh03:17
crimsunmicahcowan: understood. But it will be far easier maintenance-wise to get it into Debian first and then just sync into Ubuntu.03:17
crimsunLaserJock: ..."upstream"?03:17
crimsunwhat's this mythical pony?03:17
LaserJockDebian03:17
tsengI got jdub to put the pony on fridge03:18
tsengbefore it went live03:18
tsengand its still there.03:18
micahcowanWhy not in the source tarball? Same reasons as given before for having all changes be in debian?03:18
LaserJockcrimsun: dude, http://blog.madism.org/index.php/2006/07/19/95-sorry-but03:18
micahcowanLaserJock: "Debian" what?03:18
tsengthe image originalyl appeared to the oss blogosphere in Haddess' blog03:18
LaserJockmicahcowan: because seperating packaging from source is generally a good idea03:18
ajmitchLaserJock: yes, we're all bad & evil03:19
LaserJockmicahcowan: what happens if you have a bug in the packaging? you have to release a new version03:19
bddebianajmitch!!03:19
LaserJockmicahcowan: when you could just change the .diff.gz and bumb the revision03:19
ajmitchbddebian: yes?03:19
LaserJockajmitch: you're alive!03:19
ajmitchLaserJock: no I'm not03:19
bddebianajmitch: Just Hi03:19
ajmitchhello bddebian03:20
micahcowanI wouldn't necessarily have to rerelease for the main package... but yeah, I see what you're saying.03:20
micahcowanLaserJock: why would it be easier to try to get it into debian first?03:21
LaserJockbecause if you put it in Debian then we can sync it into Ubuntu03:22
LaserJockI've done it both ways03:22
LaserJockI like the feedback from REVU03:22
LaserJockbut if you want it to go into Debian you are better off sending it off the them after REVU is happy03:22
micahcowanWhich do you prefer?03:22
micahcowanI guess it was crimsun who recommended debian first, not LaserJock...03:23
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LaserJockI think (although I'm not sure if others would agree) I would put it on REVU and when people are happy with it there send it to debian-mentors to get sponsored in Debian03:24
LaserJockI like getting feedback from the people here, but it's kinda pointless to upload a -0ubuntu1 to Universe when a short time later you are going to need to sync -103:25
LaserJockif however, we are getting close to the freeze and we won't have time to sync it I'd go for it in Ubuntu first03:26
micahcowanI'm not terribly familiar with REVU at all... there is a process by which, after the packaging job has been critiqued, you can choose to try to get it into debian, or ubuntu?03:26
LaserJockwell, basically you could get it to the point were it could be uploaded to Universe and then rather than do that, take it to debian03:27
=== Hobbsee wants to request a sync of something that doesnt fully exist yet. bleh.
LaserJockyou'd have to tell the advocators on REVU that you don't want it uploaded I guess03:28
micahcowanOkay, cool.03:28
LaserJockHobbsee: fully?03:28
crimsunmicahcowan: ok, post-REVU comments, if you go the Debian route, you can follow the New Maintainer's Guide for its processes, so you'd approach debian-mentors. If you went the Ubuntu route, a MOTU would just upload it to Ubuntu.03:28
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LaserJockif you don't know anything about the Debian process it can be a bit tough, but it only took me 2 days to get my package uploaded to Debian after I had it OK'd on  REVU03:29
micahcowanHow long after that was it sync'd to Ubuntu?03:30
LaserJocka long time because I was lazy (an -0ubuntu1 package was uploaded already)03:31
micahcowanMmm so... the packager also has some responsibility for the sync? I thought they were automagic.03:32
LaserJockif it is during the time that automagic sycs are going on03:32
LaserJockif not then you'd have to poke the archive admins03:33
LaserJockanyway, if you have the package fairly ready to go and you seriously want to maintain it in Debian (which as the author I'd think you would be) then I'd go straight for Debian03:34
HobbseeLaserJock: yeah.  how long does it take for p.d.o to update?03:35
LaserJocknot sure03:35
FujitsuAnybody got an ideas on my pbuilder problem?03:35
LaserJockare you wanting for something that just got into Debian?03:35
crimsunit's a daily cron job aiui03:35
HobbseeLaserJock: does it need to update for me to request a sync on a package?  it's on the ftp03:36
HobbseeLaserJock: yeah.  a bugfix.03:36
crimsunHobbsee: no03:36
Hobbseecrimsun: excellent :)03:36
ajmitchHobbsee: p.d.o is irrelevant for syncs03:36
LaserJockHobbsee: if it's on the mirrors it's good to go for sure03:36
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LaserJockok, I seriously gotta get home, my wife will be upset03:38
LaserJockI'm late for dinner03:38
crimsun'later03:38
bddebianLater Laser_away03:39
bddebianAre there any devscripts for checking a package against the new python policy?03:40
ajmitchbddebian: probably not much - at least cdbs complained about my packages not being compliant though03:43
bddebianDamn, well fix hamlib for me will ya? :-)03:43
ajmitchno03:43
Hobbseeajmitch: cool :)03:44
Hobbseebddebian: heh.  get fixing :P03:44
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bddebianHobbsee: Aye, I need it for gpredict too03:45
Hobbsee:P03:45
bddebianBut I was told to leave it alone until it's fixed in Debian :-(03:45
Hobbseeah03:46
Hobbseeokay then03:46
bddebianBut I was hoping to nudge the Debian maintainer if I could supply a patch ;-)03:47
ajmitchbddebian: so do so03:47
bddebianI don't know the python policy at all yet :-(03:47
ajmitchtime to read up on it03:47
Hobbseeajmitch: fixed all of zope yet?03:47
ajmitchnope03:48
bddebianajmitch: Where is it?03:48
ajmitchhttp://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/03:48
ajmitchhttp://wiki.debian.org/DebianPythonFAQ03:48
bddebianThank you honey03:49
bddebianHmm, well maybe it's unfixable with a broken python2.3 anyway03:51
ajmitchshouldn't be03:51
bddebianWell if multiple versions are OK, then it can't be built03:52
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=== ajmitch wonders what bddebian means by multiple versions
bddebianajmitch: hamlib-python2.3-dev, hamlib-python2.4-dev, etc03:55
=== ajmitch wonders why that would be needed
bddebianIt probably isn't03:57
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bddebianAck, why the hell is grass looking for libGLw?04:01
bddebianI don't understand how you can have a provides and conflicts and replaces in the same package?04:06
Hobbseebddebian: because a package now includes package2, it conflicts it, so you cant install both at once, and it replaces it, so you need package 1 instead of package2.  it happens with kdelibs-bin and kdelibs4c2a04:07
HawkwindHobbsee: Say all of that 3 times super fast :P04:08
HobbseeHawkwind: hah.04:08
bddebianHobbsee: I have the conflicts/replaces part but how can a package provide a package it conflicts or replaces?04:08
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Hobbseebddebian: well, package A replaces package B, if package A effectively contains package B04:09
Hobbseeand it just means that you cant have both package A and package B installed at the same time.04:09
bddebianHmm, OK04:10
ajmitchbddebian: it's to avoid breaking dependencies for all the thousands of other packages04:10
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bddebianSo package: python2.3-libhamlib2 should become python-libhamlib2 and provide python2.3-libhamlib2 and conflict and replace: python2.3-libhamlib2 ?04:13
ajmitchHobbsee: thanks for that04:14
Hobbseeajmitch: :P not a problem.04:14
Hobbseethe machine that i was building on died :(04:14
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Hobbseefortunately, it finished the build first.04:14
bddebiananyone? ^^04:15
Hobbseebddebian: sounds reasonable, but i try to avoid python stuff like the plague04:15
bddebian:-)04:15
Hobbseebddebian: is that what they did in debian?04:15
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jsgotangcomy network died in edgy lol04:26
bddebianHobbsee: That's seems to be what the python policy suggests afaict04:34
Hobbseebddebian: oh good :)04:34
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bddebianAck, what do I do about a .dirs file?04:43
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sharmshowdy04:54
bddebianHeya sharms04:55
sharmsfor your build systems, does anyone here just put pbuilder update in a cronjob?05:00
Hobbseesharms: i usually run it before i start building for the day...05:01
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Hobbseesharms: might be sensible for edgy though, with so many updates05:01
sharmsyeah I was just thinking maybe everday at like 4am have it update automagically05:01
Hobbseemight be clever.  if it bails partway thru you can fix it again.05:02
sharmsI finally took the dive today and installed XGL, the f12 and workspace functions are great05:03
FunnyLookinHatSo what kind of information should I put on my wiki?  Anyone have any examples (or their own wiki page that I could see)?05:12
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HobbseeFunnyLookinHat: what for?05:13
FunnyLookinHatwell I need to get my wiki page setup for becoming an ubuntero (or whatever that goofy name is!)  ;)05:14
crimsunFunnyLookinHat: that means you sign the latest revision of the Code of Conduct (CoC)05:16
FunnyLookinHatbut I thought the CC would approve me and this and that, and that having my wiki updated with what I am doing with ubuntu was useful?05:17
crimsuna "ubuntero" is simply an LP user who has signed the Ubuntu CoC05:17
FunnyLookinHathmm... then how about a ubuntu member?05:17
FunnyLookinHatI'm just looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment05:18
crimsunto become a "Ubuntu member", you should have a wiki page listing your continuing involvement in Ubuntu05:18
FunnyLookinHatRiiiiightt. That's what I meant then  : )05:18
FunnyLookinHatSo just give a description of what I am doing w/ ubuntu etc. etc.?05:18
crimsunfeel free to take a look at any of the wiki pages of users who are in the https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers LP team05:19
sharmsFunnyLookinHat: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StevenHarms05:19
FunnyLookinHatSweet thanks sharms    : )05:25
FunnyLookinHatHmm... how do I sign the COC?  I have a gpg...05:26
sharmsFunnyLookinHat: apt-get install seahorse05:26
sharmsI did it all though that GUI05:26
crimsunclick "Codes of Conduct"05:26
FunnyLookinHatAhh it's in seahorse05:26
FunnyLookinHatok, yea I use that  : )05:26
sharmswell you download the coc to a text file05:26
sharmsthen right click it -> encrypt05:27
sharmsthen paste the encrypted version into the launchpad text box05:27
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FunnyLookinHatWelcome back all!06:41
nixternalheh06:41
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FunnyLookinHatnixternal, know how to force a newline in wiki code by any chance?06:41
nixternalenter twice06:42
nixternal;)06:42
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nixternalthere isn't a <br /> or anything like that...at least that i know of06:42
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nixternalhowever, if you are trying to force a break in a table...good luck06:42
FunnyLookinHatAhhhh06:43
FunnyLookinHatSweet thanks!06:43
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crimsunman. that sucked.06:46
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FunnyLookinHatSeveas is having a worse time than most of us I see....06:48
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crimsunthat's because he is at or has surpassed the per-client channel limit06:52
lifelessnah06:53
lifelessor is that what the channel hes joining sees ?06:53
crimsunafaik he's in a number of high-volume channels, but I could be completely off the mark.06:54
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sanderHello. What is the official way to request a sync from the debian repositories for a package?08:08
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crimsunsander: which package?08:20
sandergnome-hearts08:21
sanderIt was added to de debian repro's on July 508:21
crimsundidn't you /just/ ask about this a day or two ago?08:25
sander4 days ago IIRC. You guys told me to wait a few days because the build server were overloaded08:26
crimsunplease wait til Knot-1 is released, then we'll take care of requesting new syncs.08:26
crimsun(ETA: sometime late today)08:26
sanderOkay. And can I request that here? Or should I fill out a form/edit the wiki somewhere?08:27
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crimsunnormally you'd file a bug against the source package (gnome-hearts) requesting it to be synced from Debian Sid08:28
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sanderI can't, since it's a new package. Shall I file it against Ubuntu then?08:28
crimsunyou can, sure.08:29
sanderThanks for your help :-)08:30
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dholbachgood morning09:30
crimsunhi Daniel09:30
dholbachhey Daniel09:31
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raphinkhey Daniels09:35
crimsunhi Mister Pinson09:37
raphink:)09:39
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bjphi guys, I'm trying to fix some comments that 'daemon@poleboy.de' provided on the Flamerobin package (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2747) yesterday. I'm working on the Standards-Version and moved it to 3.7.2 instead of 3.6.2, although now linda warns that 3.7.2 is a newer standards version. Should the Standards-Version still be 3.7.2?10:06
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dholbachbjp: yes10:08
dholbachbjp: dpkg -l debian-policy   gives you the version of the policy atm10:09
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bjpdholbach: I'm probably doing something wrong, but when I run that command, it does not output any versions, but it gives: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold and some more lines..10:11
dholbachthen you don't have it installed, sorry10:11
dholbachapt-cache show debian-policy | grep ^Version10:12
bjpah there the version is 3.6.2.210:13
bjpalthough there is no newer version avaible right now.. ?10:13
dholbachthat's in edgy10:17
bjpdholbach: probably it is because I'm running dapper, and the newer version is in edgy only?10:17
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dholbachyeah10:17
bjpdholbach: right :)10:17
dholbachbut as you're going to upload your package to edgy (once it's approved and all), ... :)10:18
bjpdholbach: well I can upgrade my system to edgy10:18
dholbachedgy is not a stable system, you have to be comfortable with that truth :-)10:18
bjpdholbach: I see, and linda will be runned after dputting the package?10:18
dholbachon the revu host, yes10:19
bjpdholbach: well I don't have to use an extremely stable system, but I should be able to bool every day :)10:19
dholbachhehe, it boots, yes :)10:20
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bjpdholbach: but as long as it is not a problem building it on dapper I'll stick to that for now I think10:20
dholbachok10:20
dholbachthat's cool10:20
bjpdholbach: I'll experiment with Edgy later on :) (btw, how do I upgrade to that? Is it only by changing dapper to edgy in sources.list?)10:21
dholbachyes and then do a dist-upgrade10:21
dholbachthere was a lot of flux in the archive, so lots of python packages changed their name, etc10:22
dholbachyou have to have a close look on what gets replaced :)10:22
bjpI see :)10:22
bjpso the bottom line is that I'll ignore that one warning on my system for now :)10:23
bjpwithin the comments of the review, there is also mentioned that config.{sub|guess} should be copied before configure call and being removed in clean, which will skip them from the diff.gz file. Can you explain that a little bit more to me, please?10:26
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Gloubiboulgahello world10:39
Toadstool'morning10:40
bjphello gloubiboulga10:44
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Arbiterhey Gloubiboulga10:44
Arbiter:)10:44
Gloubiboulgahi bjp, Arbiter10:44
ArbiterGloubiboulga, wanna advocate my package (again)? :D10:46
Gloubiboulgayep, could you give me the REVU url for it?10:47
Arbiterhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=274210:47
GloubiboulgaI really need to learn my gpg key ID10:49
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bjpArbiter, Gloubiboulga, maybe one of you can help me a bit further..10:50
Arbitersure10:50
Arbiterbut I think that Gloubiboulga is more expert than me ;)10:51
bjpyesterday 'daemon@poleboy.de' commented on my Flamerobin package (available at: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2747). For some of those comments I need a bit more explaination I think10:51
bjpwell you both are more than I am :)10:51
Arbiterbjp, hehe10:51
bjpfor the debian/rules file: you should copy config.{sub|guess} before the configure call and remove them in the clean call, then they are not in the .diff.gz10:51
bjphow can I achieve this? The config.sub and config.guess are coming from subversion and are in the original source package10:52
Arbiterwait a sec.10:52
Gloubiboulgayep, your debian/rules use different config.{sub|guess} and replace the ones in the sources10:52
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Gloubiboulgawhich creates an ugly diff.gz10:53
Arbiterbjp, you can remove these lines10:53
Arbiter+ifneq "$(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub)" ""10:53
Arbiter+cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub10:53
Arbiter+endif10:53
Arbiter+ifneq "$(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.guess)" ""10:53
Arbiter+cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.guess config.guess10:53
Arbiter+endif10:53
Gloubiboulgaor you can backup them and copy them back during the clean call :)10:54
bjpwell it seemed a bit odd to me that the clean call copies files to the directory and overwrites the current ones.10:55
bjpbut if I remove the lines that Arbiter pasted, aren't the original files from the source package not used then?10:56
Gloubiboulgaactually the lines that Arbiter pasted should be in the configure part10:57
Gloubiboulgawith the backup10:57
Arbiteryep10:57
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bjpokay so I have to backup the config.{sub|guess} files first (rename them by concatenating with .old I think) and then copy them from /usr/share/misc/config.*10:58
bjpam I right with that?11:01
Gloubiboulgayes11:02
siretartbjp: read /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian for a rationale about config.{sub,guess}11:03
Gloubiboulgaand mv foo.old foo during the clean call11:03
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bjpGloubiboulga> right, thanks :)11:05
bjpGloubiboulga> maybe you know how I should fix the last issue from the comments as well: files in /usr/share/flamerobin/doc should be installed to /usr/share/doc/flamerobin (or linked, in case flamerobin needs these files there)11:05
bjpthe make install of Flamerobin installs the documents in flamerobin/doc. I can symlink them, I should do that in the install part of debian/rules I think?11:07
Gloubiboulgabjp, yes, you just ahve to move the files :)11:07
Gloubiboulgayou should move the files to usr/share/doc/flamerobin, and create the links in /usr/share/flamerobin if needed11:08
bjpGloubiboulga> okay so I have to change the makefiles of flamerobin if I'm right. Or do we have to fix it in flamerobin source package and then build the ubuntu package based on that?11:09
Gloubiboulgano need to patch the makefile11:11
Gloubiboulgayou can use mv or dh_install to move the files11:12
Gloubiboulgabjp, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s12.311:12
bjpokay great! :)11:12
Gloubiboulgadh_install is cleaner though11:13
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Arbiteroh that weird12:51
Arbiterthe author of colorscheme updated it's application and changed it's name12:52
Arbiterit's called agave now12:52
Arbiterpff...12:52
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Hobbseehi all02:40
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YagisanG'day Hobbsee02:47
Hobbseehey Yagisan :)02:47
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xyzzy_billWell, here's a dumb newbie question:  What do I do if I want to contribute packages? (More on next line)03:51
xyzzy_billLooks like contributing to Debian is the way to go... I'm not enjoying the Debian install... Can I develop on Ubuntu and upload the resulting packages?03:52
Hobbseexyzzy_bill: yes03:53
bjpxyzzy_bill> of course you can03:53
xyzzy_billGreat!  So, I'll just get involved in Debian without actually every running it! :-D03:54
xyzzy_billThanks.03:54
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bjpxyzzy_bill> well, packages aren't merged back to Debian if that's what you mean.04:00
EnverexDoes anyone here want to have a look at my e-uae or ccd2iso uploads, I'm tempted to do more but I need to know if I've screwed anything up with those first so I don't do it again...04:00
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EnverexCan you believe it, until thismorning I was running the basic 386 kernel on my Athlon64 X2 machine. Damn I feel stupid.04:05
EnverexRunning 32bit was deliberate, but I didn't realise there was a K7-SMP kernel!04:05
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tritiumEnverex: notice a difference??04:08
EnverexYeah, unsupprisingly, lol, considering I just over doubled my processing power04:09
tritium:)  I'll be getting an X2 soon, as soon as prices drop due to Conroe.04:10
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bddebianHeya gang04:12
tritiumhey bddebian04:12
zulx2?04:13
EnverexHAHA, I just noticed someones translated the Gnome applets wrong as they now have the carriage return icons in the tooltips04:13
tsengok script kids04:13
tsengi need a quick one liner to find and remove files older than $DATE04:14
tsengany takers?04:14
bddebianHi tritium04:14
zultseng: find . -type f -ctime XXX -exec rm -f {} \; or something like that04:15
tsenghm04:17
tseng-ctime n seems to be days by the manpage?04:17
Mithrandirtseng: touch -d $date tmp ; find -older tmp -print0 | xargs -0 rm04:17
tseng$ find -older tmp -print004:18
tsengfind: invalid predicate `-older'04:18
tsengman only has newer04:19
Mithrandirhmm, find ! -newer -print0 |[...] , then?04:19
tsengseems to work04:19
tsengverifying04:19
tsengMithrandir: thanks!04:21
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Mithrandirat least I find the -newer syntax a lot less confusing than -ctime, etc04:21
tsengyeah I was struggling a bit with ctime04:21
tseng-ctime in the manpage was pretty useless, possibly other bits elsewhere04:21
Mithrandiryou can also do -mtime +5 to find anything six days or older.04:22
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tortoise__Hello, anyone here who gets a kick out of packaging python apps?  Only I need to get someone to look at the one I made.04:24
tortoise__The package works but I get some deprecation errors when building it.  Get it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Projects/SOK/dev?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=sok-packages2.tar.gz04:28
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EnverexDoes anyone here want to have a look at my e-uae or ccd2iso uploads, I'm tempted to do more but I need to know if I've screwed anything up with those first so I don't do it again...04:44
Enverex(would kinda be wasting lots of time making things that are broken, heh)04:45
tsengare there any ubuntu forums users here?04:51
Hobbseetseng: very occasionally, why?04:51
tsengI need someone to reply to a thread for me04:51
tsengI have explained once already on IRC04:52
tsengand they continue on with spreading false information04:52
EnverexWhat do you put for "Type of package: single binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module or cdbs? [s/m/l/k/b] " if it's an app and a plugin for things?04:52
Enverex(i.e. binary and library)04:52
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tsengI refuse to sign up for the forum, however.04:52
Hobbseetseng: if you want to pastebin what you want me to say, and where, i'll put it in04:53
tsengEnverex: normally single.04:53
tsengEnverex: if you want to package the plugin seperately, m (multiple)04:53
Enverexthanks04:53
FunnyLookinHattseng, please post a link to the forum post.04:53
tsengm is alot more complex04:53
EnverexErm, where is the page where people request what packages they want people to port?04:57
FunnyLookinHatEnverex, a bug report on launchpad would be the proper place most likely04:57
EnverexFunnyLookinHat, There is a Wiki page about it where it says who's on what etc04:57
EnverexAh, found it04:58
Enverexhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates04:58
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tsengHobbsee: http://pastebin.ca/9351305:02
tsengHobbsee: thanks alot.05:02
Hobbseetseng: :)05:04
tsengI have a feeling that wont work05:05
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Enverexhmm, got an issue with one of my builds...05:08
Enverexmkdir -p "/usr/share/uade2/players"05:08
Enverexmkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/share/uade2': Permission denied05:08
Enverex(that's inside pbuilder)05:08
tsengyeah wrong DISTDIR05:09
EnverexHow do I go about correcting that then?05:09
tsengdo you already call $(MAKE) DISTDIR=$(CURDIR)....05:10
tseng?05:10
tsengif not, it might be a problem with the usptream makefile05:10
EnverexI'm using the default deb/rules file05:10
Enverex $(MAKE) install prefix=$(CURDIR)/debian/uade/usr05:11
Enverex/usr/share/uade2 is where it installs some config files afaik05:12
tsengDESTDIR sorry05:13
Enverexhmm, so the one I just posted (from the default rules file) won't work?05:13
tsengit should if upstream was sane05:13
tsengwhats happening is they are installing stuff in /usr/ on your real system05:14
tsengnot in debian/uade/user05:14
tseng-e05:14
EnverexIsn't it just like programs installing things to /etc though? (which I thought was done regardless of prefix)05:14
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fowlduckhallo05:19
Enverexlo05:20
Enverextseng, Any ideas to get around this then05:20
Enverex?05:20
tsengno, without looking at it I am blaming the upstream makefile05:22
EnverexTime to edit the makefile then05:22
h3sp4wnCan cdbs deal with running autoconf / automake before configure - or how can I run autogen.sh from inside pbuilder ? (or should I just avoid cdbs - its only a simple program)05:23
tsengyou could make cdbs do it by overloading the rule05:24
tsengnot recommended.05:24
dholbachcdbs can run automake and autoconf beforehand05:24
h3sp4wndholbach: Any example of a package which does that (or is still not recommended ?)05:25
tsengit is alot easier to add things to rules you can actually see05:25
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dholbachDEB_AUTO_UPDATE_AUTOCONF and DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_AUTOMAKE05:26
h3sp4wnthanks05:26
dholbachi need to think about an example05:26
dholbachand i'm in a meeting atm05:26
h3sp4wnno problems05:26
edschoi'd like to do some development work on two Debian unstable/experimental packages with my Dapper system.  Could someone tell me how to configure sources.list and preferences.list to pull in just these two packages from Debian unstable and experimental without hosing my system?05:27
tsengedscho: for 2 packages it would be easier to go to packages.debian.org and going to the package page in the right dist05:28
tsengand download the source files05:28
tseng.dsc, diff.gz, .orig.tar.gz05:28
tsengdpkg-source -x foo.dsc05:28
edschotseng: thanks. So just download them and use dpkg -i package?05:29
tsengerm. no do as I said.05:29
edschothanks.05:29
tsengyou need all 3 files for each05:29
edschook, got you05:30
tsengcool.05:30
Enverextseng, any idea which makefile or file would be the one to normally specify things like this?05:31
tsengno, I don't have your sources05:31
Enverexgrrr05:33
EnverexHow do I search inside files for a string?05:35
Mithrandirgrep foo file1 file205:36
EnverexThis makes no sense, in the makefile it has this05:38
EnverexDATADIR = {PACKAGEPREFIX}{DATADIR}05:38
Enverexthen05:38
Enverextest -e "$(DATADIR)/uade.conf" || cp -f uade.conf "$(DATADIR)/"05:38
LaserJockEnverex: use grep05:38
EnverexSo I don't see what's wrong...05:38
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EnverexLaserJock, I did, heh05:38
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tsengand what is PACKAGEPREFIX set to05:40
Enverexerm, nothing in Makefile.in... but it's in configure as...05:41
Enverexconfigure:    -e "s|{PACKAGEPREFIX}|$packageprefix|g" \05:41
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EnverexI noticed this tseng ...05:48
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Enverexif test "$user" = "no"; then05:49
Enverex    # global installation05:49
Enverex    if test -z "$prefix"; then05:49
Enverex        prefix="/usr/local"05:49
Enverex    fi05:49
tsengthe dir should exist before configure05:49
Enverexeh?05:51
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Enverextseng, That's the only thing I can see that has anything to do with it, so unless that's wrong I don't know =/05:58
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bddebianHeya LaserJock06:52
LaserJockhi bddebian06:52
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Tonio_hello07:22
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Gloubiboulgahi Tonio_07:31
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Arbiterhi08:00
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sharmsArbiter: howdy08:07
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crimsundholbach: are you still planning to do a class on merging/syncing?08:31
dholbachme? :)08:31
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dholbachnot sure, if i'm the best teacher for that :)08:31
dholbachi'll run a session on updating packages :)08:31
crimsunerr, sorry, your name is attributed to merges on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Requests08:32
LaserJockcrimsun: you want to do it?08:32
LaserJockcrimsun: that means he is requesting it ;-)08:32
LaserJocknot teaching it ;-)08:32
dholbachcrimsun: i requested the sessions08:32
dholbachcrimsun: since they were on the spec, i wanted to make sure they are in the wiki table08:33
crimsunok08:33
crimsunI can do that one this weekend.08:33
crimsunor if that should block on pitti's, I can wait til patches are covered.08:33
LaserJockit sort of would be nice to have an overview of patches08:34
LaserJockbecause merge work is mostly looking at/managing patches08:34
dholbachi don't think it'd block08:34
dholbachit'd just be nice, if we could announce them big on u-motu and u-devel :)08:34
crimsunI don't think it would, either, though patch knowledge is certainly highly useful.08:34
LaserJockdo you think this weekend would be enough notice?08:35
LaserJockI'd like to do u-motu u-devel the fourms and anything else we can think of08:35
crimsunsince it would be two days away, probably not enough notice08:36
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crimsunthe evening (localtime, GMT -0400) of the 28th might be better08:37
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dholbachnice08:38
LaserJockpitti's is on the 25th so that would only be 3 days in between08:38
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LaserJockwould that matter do you think?08:38
LaserJock"hit 'em hard, hit 'em fast" ;-)08:38
dholbachok fellas - i'm off08:38
dholbachhave a nice evening08:38
crimsunbye Daniel08:38
dholbachbye Daniel08:39
crimsunLaserJock: I don't think so, but I'm not in the best position to say.08:39
fowlduckare the motu school sessions logged?  I can't make this coming tuesday but I REALLY need to learn that08:39
crimsunyes, they are logged08:40
LaserJockfowlduck: yes, they will be logged and put on the wiki08:40
fowlduckfantastic08:40
fowlduckwow, i feel so excited, haven't felt like this in a while08:40
fowlducklike a kid on Christmas08:40
fowlducki feel like a nerd08:40
crimsunwhat I'd /really/ like to use, which is blocked on infrastructure, is some sort of Internet whiteboard08:40
LaserJockcrimsun: ok, how is 23:00 UTC on the 28th?08:41
fowlduckcrimsun: ooh, I found a good one of those recently.08:41
crimsunwe have a system here that's freely available that uses audio and video, but I think it may be Windows-only08:41
fowlduckhmm, vmware?08:41
crimsunit's heaps better that that reservation-based Internet2 teleconferencing class stuff, though08:42
crimsunLaserJock: sounds fine to me.08:42
LaserJockk08:42
crimsunI'll talk w/ our IT guys and see if something can be wrangled08:43
LaserJockok, MOTU/School MOTU/School/Requests and MOTU/Calendar adjusted ;-)08:51
bddebianLaserJock: Awesome, what are you going to teach me? :-)08:53
LaserJockme?08:54
LaserJockI know nothing08:54
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bddebianBah08:56
LaserJockbddebian: I was thinking more the reverse, what are you going to teach me?08:57
LaserJockmaybe we need a "How to slack like a MOTU" class ;-)08:58
LaserJockof course nobody would show up to teach it :-)08:58
ograsure, but everybody would just lurk ...08:59
LaserJockheh08:59
ograa practise session :)08:59
zulLaserJock: i can teach that one09:01
sharmsI can commit to not showing up for it if that helps09:01
LaserJockzul: no you get, "MOTU Masochism" ;-)09:03
zulheh..09:04
zulwhy is everybody saying that these days09:04
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bddebianLaserJock: Hehe09:05
LaserJockI think I'll be stuck with, "How to turn Ubuntu into a full-time volunteer job and totally neglect real life" :-)09:09
=== ogra could teach that one easily...
GloubiboulgaI can help you for this session LaserJock09:09
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ograeven though i'm beyond the volunteering :)09:10
LaserJockyeah09:10
Gloubiboulgathunar09:11
Gloubiboulgahm, no, not here09:11
LaserJockI think ogra gets the "How to run a derivative while moving" session09:12
LaserJockhe will come in and out09:12
LaserJocktrying to shave every KB of the .iso09:13
LaserJockbut in the end we will have a beautiful product09:13
LaserJock;-)09:13
h3sp4wnCould anyone teach about using dpkg-cross ? Does anyone ever use it ?09:13
LaserJockhmm, I don't know if we do any cross compiling09:14
LaserJockI've never used it anyway09:14
fowlduckugh09:16
fowlduckanyone know how to launch a gnome-terminal, have it execute a command, then stay open?09:16
zulscreen09:16
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jribUniverse Freeze on 9/28 is the last day that new packages from revu can be accepted into the edgy release right?09:39
LaserJockright09:39
ograwell, make that 9/27 rather ... you never know which TZ counts :P09:47
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zulright im off...later09:50
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Tonio_hum, stupid question but that's it...10:01
Tonio_can we restart upload packages now knot1 is out?10:01
lucasuniverse was never affected by knot1 freeze10:02
Tonio_lucas: thanks (I didn't follow the activity for 2 weeks)10:02
Tonio_that's the reason I'm a bit lost10:02
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lucas:-)10:03
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