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diego_cli cant get w32Codecs under "apt-get install w32Codecs"12:09
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diego_cli cant get w32Codecs under "apt-get install w32Codecs" / NOT FOUND ! ! !12:10
diego_clis there a line to put in the source.lst to install this codecs??12:11
yuriydiego_cl: there's a repo you have to enable to get them (then disable it afterwards)12:11
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yuriyyes.12:11
diego_cland what is this repo ?12:11
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snikkerdiego_cl: download the plugins from mPlayer web site12:12
MuJthere's now w32codecs package in dapper12:12
yuriyalso, i believe it's w32codecs not capitalized12:12
MuJno*12:12
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diego_cldapper12:16
diego_cl!dapper12:16
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"12:16
thompai need someone to help me fix grub12:17
diego_clIf ubuntu 6.06 LTS have the w32Codecs.... WHY i dont have them when im using kubuntu 6.06   ! !12:18
thomparoot hd0,0 not found for windows xp12:18
thompano they dont12:18
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diego_cl:T12:18
thompa!dvd12:18
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:18
cplusplusi media:/hda2/temp deleted every time??12:19
cpluspluss12:19
crimsunw32codecs are not part of either Ubuntu or Kubuntu (or Edubuntu or Xubuntu or Nubuntu or ...)12:19
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cpk1Tommy2k4: the wacom thing didnt seem to work...12:20
thompamy grub menu shows to entries for windows12:20
WoostaHow come the latest firefox-dom-inspector package and the latest firefox package are incompatible with each other? FF is 1.5.0.4 and dom-inspector is 1.5.0.3 .. is there an alternate repository with compatible packages?12:20
cplusplusis media:/hda2/temp deleted every time??12:20
thompatw windows entry in grub and the first is xp wont boot\12:20
cplusplusif i restart?12:20
thompacplusplus: its not mounted12:21
MuJthompa: well do you have xp? :)12:21
thompacplusplus: is it a seperate hard drive?12:21
cplusplusyes its a harddrive!12:21
thompaMuj: yes xp and a restore partition for windows12:21
jbaloulxgl works like a charm thanks guys12:21
MuJthompa: on what disk is it? primary master?12:22
cplusplusthompa i installed kubuntu there!12:22
cplusplusbut now all my data under temp are away?hm12:22
thompaall one disk,12:22
cplusplustmp12:22
cplusplusnot all on disk12:22
cplusplusjust in directory tmp!12:22
the_hammerhmm something screwey here only seem to be getting sound from right speakers12:22
diego_clIS KUBUNTU COMPATIBLE WITH RPM FILES ?!12:22
thompaMuj: ubuntu is on (hd0,3)12:22
diego_cl!rpm12:22
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).12:22
LjL!caps12:22
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.12:22
thompasorry12:22
MuJthompa: that's not what I asked :)12:23
Woostadiego_cl: try alien12:23
cplusplusthompa does kubuntu delete these files if i restart?12:23
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MuJthompa: so you have just one harddisk with 3 partitions on it?12:23
MuJuumm... hd0,3 would make that 412:23
thompacplusplus: i would say you have to chage them to mount to /media12:23
cplusplusfuck all data are dlected?!12:24
thompaMuj: xp media on hd0,0 and windowsxp  (recovery) hd0,112:24
cplusplushmmmm could i restore it?12:24
MuJthompa: well what does your menu.lst say then?12:25
MuJand are you certain it's that way.. not other way around?12:25
LjL!language12:25
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:25
thompaMuj: well thats what is says, should i change the one thats recovery to the xp one?12:25
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thompait weird that its booting recovery or that it got entered12:26
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MuJchange it other way around and try12:26
wolfmanzWhen you use Adept is there a way to get it to remove EVERYTHING that it installed for a app for example getting rid of not only the program you want gone but also getting rid of any dependacy files with it?12:26
cplusplusthompa could i restore the data?12:26
thompacplusplus: what is the other drive?12:27
thompaMuj: thanks12:27
cpluspluswhy other drive?12:27
thompacplusplus: is the second drive appearing as /temp?12:27
cplusplusi have hda2 hda5 hda612:27
thompamedia:/hda2/temp what is that?12:28
cpluspluson had2 i have the directories: home, debootstrap,...12:28
cplusplusand \tmp12:28
diego_clwith iExplorer and Firefox you can type only "google", then you press control+enter and you get to www.google.com.... is there a way to do the same with konqueror ??!?12:29
thompacplusplus: oh sorry12:29
cplusplus??12:29
LjLwolfmanz: no12:30
LjL!aptitude12:30
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide12:30
thompacplusplus: i dont know what you are trying to do, i had a couple hard drives, i mounted it only12:30
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thompait was showing up as a temp file the seperate hard drive12:31
cplusplusbut why are my data deleted? could i recorver it? hmmm12:31
thompai dont know what your problem is if its not one with mounting12:31
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thompacplusplus: its a linux folder right?12:31
cplusplusyeah12:32
BKaj!Xgl Kubuntu12:32
ubotuI know nothing about Xgl Kubuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:32
thompacplusplus: well who created the folder some app or you12:32
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BKaj!Xgl12:32
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:32
cplusplusi think kubuntu created it furing installation12:32
thompacplusplus: do View: Hidden Files12:33
cplusplushow?12:33
thompain konqueror12:33
thompafrom the menu12:33
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cplusplushm12:34
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cplusplusi cant see my files!12:34
cplusplusi enabled hidden files!12:34
thompacplusplus: is that partiton a different distro?12:35
cplusplushda2 is the kubuntu partition12:36
cplusplusi just use kubuntu here12:36
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thompamedia:/hda2/temp is another partition12:37
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Ashexthere wouldn't happen to be a way to install kubuntu to another hard disk while in kubuntu12:37
Ashexwould there?12:37
cplusplushm..could u help me with ssh?12:37
thompaits not the one kubuntu is installed in?12:38
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Ashexnope12:38
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ivis=] 12:38
AshexI got myself a 300GB drive, and I'm going to by moving my install to it12:38
oomph_7i got a laptop and a secondary monitor hooked up to a docking station12:38
oomph_7my laptop lcd identifies as monitor 212:38
Ashexbut there are little querks with this install, so i don't plan on imaging12:38
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oomph_7how do I make it monitor1?12:38
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thompacplusplus: media:/hda2/temp is another partition12:39
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cplusplusthompa on hda2 i installed kubuntu12:39
cplusplushow could i find out?12:39
Ashexalthough, i'm not sure if it would be possible to if i could12:39
Ashexi want to isntall 64-bit kubuntu but i'm running 32-bit12:39
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thompaAshex: i had to boot live to other disk12:40
AshexHmm12:40
thompacplusplus: click konqueror .storage media12:40
Ashexalright, i'll just reboot off the 64 live disc12:40
thompacplusplus: what do you see?12:41
thompaAshex: i just got 6412:41
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cplusplus0 elements12:41
Ashexthompa, how is it?12:41
thompaAshex: it was a little slow at boot, but after install it rocks12:41
AshexSweetness12:41
thompai would have to say unbelievable performance12:41
AshexI just bought a new mobo and cpu :D12:42
thompaits like my box is not even on12:42
Ashexso to celebrate i'm going to do a fresh install of kubuntu with 64-bit version12:42
thompado it12:42
AshexHeh, will do12:42
cplusplusthompa ok12:42
thompathere is a link to the codecs you know12:42
thompaahh too late12:42
cplusplus?12:43
thompahe left12:43
thompacplusplus: so whats there how many hard drives?12:43
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cplusplus312:43
centyxdoes anyone know where the prog/ folder is with the ubuntu lm-sensors package?12:43
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centyxn/m i see it didn't come with it12:44
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thompacplusplus: my stupid way of doing it, open them and find /home directory with your name in it12:44
centyxhrm12:44
thompacplusplus: or right click propertys12:44
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cplusplusmedia:/hda2/home/gerald12:45
thompacplusplus: mine is sda1, sda4 is mounted in media12:45
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thompacplusplus: go to home/gerald in konqueror, if thats it your in right directory,12:47
cplusplushttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ihBtZg32.htm12:47
thompadont put anything in temp, for me only amule created that12:47
cplusplus<-- my partitions!12:47
cplusplusi am on media:/hda2/home/gerald now?12:48
thompacplusplus: i dont have a /temp in my home folder12:48
cplusplustmp !!12:49
cplusplusnot the home folder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:49
cplusplusjust hda\tmp12:49
thompaok12:49
cplusplushda2\tmp12:49
thompawell thats not for stuff you want to keep12:49
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cplusplusdid kubuntu deleted my files?12:50
thompathere should be a few things there12:50
cplusplusyeah i few things12:50
cplusplusbut my data are deleted;/12:50
cplusplusshit!!12:50
cplusplus.X11-unix, kde-geraldm, ksocket-gerald ...12:51
thompaconfig files, you cant put data there. use /home/xxxxxx12:51
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tux_#mexico12:51
cplusplusyeah its too late now thompa!12:52
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thompacplusplus: try searching file name or part of12:52
thompacplusplus: they may have gone somewhere else12:52
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RawSewageanyone using Edgy12:54
thompacplusplus: /tmp directory is cleared out at boot or at shutdown by the local system12:54
cplusplusthompa nice12:54
cplusplusits too late;/12:54
RawSewageI already know about the Edgy channel.  just wondering if anyone's using it yet12:54
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thompacplusplus: compliance with IEEE standard P1003.212:55
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AshexWee12:55
Ashexeven the live cd is pretty zippy12:55
RawSewagefor what12:55
thompacplusplus: sorry dude12:55
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cplusplusthompa could i recover it?12:55
Ashex64-bit kubuntu12:56
dabugashi12:56
thompacplusplus: i dont think so12:56
dabugasdoes anyone know how to play H264/MPEG-4 AVC with xine?12:56
cplusplusfucking kubuntu12:56
thompacplusplus: what was there mind if i ask?12:56
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thompacplusplus: i lost a large doc once12:56
the_hammerboo12:56
tux_hello12:56
the_hammercant seem to get my sound working properly12:57
thompaAshex: ;)12:57
the_hammeronly plays out of right channel12:57
thompaAshex: do you have the link for codecs and flash?12:57
the_hammerdoubt any of ya be able to help me im using ultima12:57
Ashex!codec12:57
ubotuI know nothing about codec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:57
AshexBah12:57
Ashex!flash12:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:57
h3sp4wn!code12:57
ubotuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida12:57
thompai got them for you12:57
h3sp4wn!listen12:58
ubotuI know nothing about listen - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:58
thompaAshex: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439912:58
thompaAshex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava12:59
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thompacplusplus: you cant store stuff in /tmp12:59
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cplusplusnice12:59
thompamaybe its too easy01:00
Ashexholy hell01:00
Ashexthis drive is huge01:00
thompathere should maybe be a warning or something for some things, but i hate those01:00
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Ashexthanks thompa01:00
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thompaAshex: can you list specs here01:01
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thompaAshex: there was a command for it01:01
luc45how do i know if my video card has video capturing capabilities?01:01
luc45it is a nvidia fx 550001:01
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AshexSysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 2412 MHz (4829 bogomips), , RAM: 625/1004MB, 122 proc's, 11.53min up01:02
OODluc45: what do you mean by video capturing abilities?01:02
thompaAshex: mines amd 64 X@ 4200+ 250G01:02
AshexThey're sweet, aren't they?01:02
shoophi. i just installed ati drivers and did a reboot and now my system doesnt boot anymore, the only thing that i see is the kubuntu logo with some black background01:02
luc45OOD: ability to copy vhs to dvd with the correct software01:03
meltdownHey, does anyone know anything about artsd/alsa? Sound isn't working on my computer, and both of these seem to be operational...01:03
meltdownI can't for the life of me find a descriptive error message01:03
thompaAshex: what did you type in irc for that?01:03
thompaAshex: update it, it gets better01:04
RawSewagemeltdown, what sound01:04
the_hammeri feel your pain meltdown i only have sound from 1 side01:04
RawSewagemeltdown, are you new, and dont know about mp3 support01:04
OODluc45: i don't think that's video card specific as long as you can connect all the hardware needed01:04
Ashexthompa: type /sysinfo01:04
thompamy fault i had caps01:04
thompaSysinfo for 'NEUZUM3': Linux 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4200+ at 1002 MHz (2007 bogomips), , RAM: 656/1948MB, 128 proc's, 52.24min up01:04
meltdownNo, I had sound working perfectly before, MP3 playback included, but when I uninstalled Cedega (tried it - nothing worked at all), it sound stopped working01:05
RawSewageoh01:05
meltdownI don't know if they're related or not01:05
luc45OOD: what?01:05
RawSewageI dont know why that would affect it01:05
meltdownSysinfo for 'Xavius': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)Mprocessor1.50GHz at 1496 MHz (2996 bogomips), , RAM: 435/439MB, 112 proc's, 10.23min up01:05
h3sp4wnSysinfo for 'spacecat': Linux 2.6.17.6-rt7-v2 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ at 1913 MHz (3829 bogomips), HD: 34/110GB, RAM: 986/1003MB, 128 proc's, 13.29h up01:05
luc45OOD: http://video-editing-software-review.toptenreviews.com/copy-vhs-to-dvd.html01:05
thompaash: yours says 2412 MHz01:06
OODluc45: i said, i don't converting from vhs to dvd is sometihng video card specific01:06
OODluc45: as long  you you can connect all the hardware together01:06
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thompaash: i think its too high01:06
Ashexthompa: What's wrong with 2.4?01:06
Ashex:p01:06
meltdownRawSewage: Do you have any idea where I might be able to find an error message that could provide some hint as to why it's not working? I'm getting nothing from starting/stopping the Sound server01:06
WoostaHow come the latest firefox-dom-inspector package and the latest firefox package are incompatible with each other? FF is 1.5.0.4 and dom-inspector is 1.5.0.3 .. is there an alternate repository with compatible packages?01:06
thompaash: nothing just kidding01:07
RawSewagemeltdown,  Im not being facetious, but did you check the speaker volume and speaker power01:07
luc45OOD: well i need to record the video to my computer01:07
meltdownYeah - none of the mixer settings have changed01:07
thompah3sprwn: show off01:07
RawSewagemeltdown, and did you check PCM in the mixer01:07
luc45OOD: how will i do that without a Video Capture Card01:07
luc45OOD: ?01:07
meltdownRawSewage: yep01:07
RawSewagemeltdown,  no idea01:07
RawSewagesorry01:07
OODluc45: this isn't really linux spefic you know01:08
thompaash: you need to update the kernel anyway01:08
h3sp4wnthompa: I am running edgy (so putting 2.6.17 on it is alot easier)01:08
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luc45OOD: i know but i need help01:08
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h3sp4wnthompa: kanotix would be similarly upto date01:08
AshexHeh01:08
the_hammerwhat commands would ya use in x-terminal01:08
the_hammeranyone know01:08
AshexI clocked my xp 1800 to 2Ghz once01:08
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Ashexran for about 2 minutes01:08
luc45OOD: can we talk in pvt msg01:08
luc45OOD: ?01:09
shoophm01:09
shoopanyone with an answer on my question?01:09
shoopi just installed ati drivers and did a reboot and now my system doesnt boot anymore, the only thing that i see is the kubuntu logo with some black background01:09
OODluc45: i wouldn't really know how to help you, since i don't know much about tv->computer connections01:09
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OODand there's more of a chance that someone else might know the solution to your problem if you say it here01:09
supertankerHello01:10
thompaAshex: is the Mhz half for duo01:10
OODthompa: what?01:10
supertankerI cannot figure out how in the h=ll to use aptitude01:10
meltdownDoes anyone have any idea where I can find out more information on the status of Alsa and aRts?01:10
OODsupertanker: just like apt-get01:10
the_hammerlol sure is fun seeking the commands for the terminals in this os01:10
thompaOOD: what what?01:10
luc45OOD: k thx anyway01:10
OODthompa: what's the half mhz duo? :P01:10
supertankerWhen I installed Kubuntu and looked at Adept from the Live CD, it said there are a LOT of packages (php, etc) but afterwards I install nothing will let me get to them01:11
Ashexthompa: depends, if it's a 1.6Ghz duo, then it'll run at the same speed as a 3ghz, not 3.201:11
Ashexit depends on the load and usage01:11
supertankerI did apt-cdrom add, etc. but it IGN's my cd01:11
supertankerand do I have to boot to the live cd desktop to install, or is there a good old fasioned command line installer like in 5.1001:11
RawSewagemeltdown, does this link work;  http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=689032701:11
thompaAshex: your is twice mine01:11
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meltdownRawSewage: Yes - I was just looking there01:12
OODAshex: where'd you get 3.0ghz and not 3.2?01:12
supertankerso how do I get these "phantom packages"? And don't say I have to download them, I'm on dialup...01:12
OODsupertanker: i don't understand what you're trying to do exactly01:13
supertankerAnd last thing, Aptitude reports all my packages as virtuall. Seing as I accidentally used Adept to PURGE zlib...which includes purging adept itself...how do I reinstall a "virtual package"01:13
AshexOOD, i tested it at a lab awhile back. Pitted a 3.0 ghz amd against a dual-core intel 1.6Ghz01:13
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OODAshex:.. umm... an amd against a dual-core intel?01:14
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angasule!java01:14
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository01:14
supertankerOOD: When I booted the new Live CD, I ran Adept (from the CD) it said there were a whole bunch of packages, like PHP, Bison, etc. But after I installed it to my hard driver, I want to install them as well. But I cannot find them. Apparently they aren't on the CD01:14
OODAshex: you realize that they're 2 different arthitecture?01:14
Ashexer, intel >.<01:14
supertankerwhere are they?01:14
thompaOOD: im confused, if mine shows up as 2 processors is tha why MHZ is half of other one?01:14
RawSewageUbuntu is featured on Faux News:  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,204637,00.html01:14
AshexI meant to say intel01:14
AshexAlthough, don't trust me on what i say, i'm not a professional yet01:14
supertankerand where are the package files actually at on the CD?01:15
OODAshex: the Pentium and Core Duo are 2 different architecture as well, if that's what you're comparing01:15
AshexThat's a good point01:15
supertankerI looked in 'pool' but only some of them are there01:15
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thompaOOD: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4200+ at 1002 MHz01:15
OODsupertanker: no, those packages are in the ubuntu repositories on the net01:15
Ashexthompa: that confused me for a second01:16
supertankerthen why does it show it in Adept when i'm NOT online?01:16
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Ashexuntil i read dual core :p01:16
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OODthompa: athlon64 cpus have cool n quiet, so they clock down when they're not being used01:16
RawSewagemeltdown, maybe try asking in #Ubuntu too01:16
RawSewagemeltdown, or #KDE01:16
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meltdownRawSewage: Ok, I'll try those01:16
shoopanyone knows the problem with my video driver? :/01:16
thompaOOD: ok01:16
thompathats nice to know01:16
OODsupertanker: because you've downloaded the list of all the packages01:16
supertankerAlso, Aptitude won't show any packages, even ones that are on the CD. It ignores my CD for some reason. No error message, just "IGN cdrom kubuntu blah blah blah..."01:16
supertankeri did apt-cdrom add01:17
OODsupertankr: but to download them you need the internet01:17
Ashexshoop: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:17
supertankerand its in the apt list01:17
AshexAlright01:17
Ashextime to reboot01:17
supertankerMy main problem now is I mangaged to purge aptitude and most of my KDE files off of my computer01:17
AshexI'll return momentarily01:17
shoopnot yet im just new to linux for 3 days now01:17
Ashexokay01:17
supertankerand Aptitude won't let me reinstall, because A it won't get the packages from the CD and B all of them are "virtual"01:17
shoopso hm im gonne try it01:17
OODsupertanker: then you should probably reinstall the distro again01:17
shoopthanks01:17
Ashexno problem01:18
supertankerWhy does it list them all as Virtual?01:18
supertankerit sure is a good thing I always make a seperate /home parttion then...01:18
OODsupertanker: i dont know, but if you're purged most of your packages then it'd be a good idea to reinstall the whole os01:19
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cplusplusdoes someone know Midnight Commander ?01:22
OODcplusplus: haven't used it, what about it?01:23
cplusplusi want to install it01:23
OODok, it's in the repository01:24
cpluspluswhere is it?01:24
OODrun adept and seach for it01:24
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supertanker_sorry, Fedora kicked me off a second...just one last thing: do I HAVE to boot all through the Live CD to the desktop to install? because it sure is a pain in the booty and takes a long time. Is there a text-mode installer like in Ubuntu 5.10?01:24
cplusplusadept Mightnight Commander ?01:25
OODsupertanker: yes there is, but you'd have to download the alternate install cd01:25
supertanker_what....NOOOOOOOOOOO01:25
OODcplusplus: no, just run adept01:25
OODthen search for midnight commander01:26
supertanker_That is sorta out of the question...you try downloading a CD at 2.4 kbs01:26
OODyea, i had dialup some time ago, not fun01:26
thompaim having a problem in grub booting XP01:26
supertanker_Warning: Extreme understatement alert01:26
the_hammerlol friends dont let friends use dial up01:27
supertanker_so I basically just have to put up with the live installer? that sucks...01:27
supertanker_And I don't think Shipit sends you the other special disks01:27
cplusplusMidnight Commande is not found01:27
OODcplusplus: try searching for just one word01:27
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ashexokay, that didn't work too well01:28
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cplusplusnothing found01:28
cplusplusMidnight not found Commander notfound01:28
ashexi haven't a clue what happened, but Grub wasn't setup as it should have been01:28
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OODcplusplus: the package is mc01:28
thompasda 1 is noot booting, but sda2 is which is my restore partition for XP01:28
supertanker_Are you sure there isn't a text-base installer? that sucks01:29
h3sp4wnthompa: make an ext3 partition on sda2 ?01:29
cplusplusok i found it01:29
the_hammerget rid of windows xp and all your problems are solved :)01:29
ashexMine didn't boot at all :(01:29
cpluspluswhere is mc installed now????01:29
supertanker_Yeah just format over windows01:29
thompah3sp4wn: how can i do that i want the crap windows still01:30
OODcplusplus: open terminal and type: mc01:30
OODthat'll start it01:30
cplusplusood01:30
cplusplusif mc is installed on hda2 thats not  good01:30
cplusplusif i want to recover data from hda201:30
the_hammeryou poor soul how can ya want windows..have you been drinking?01:30
cplusplusdo you understand?01:31
OODcplusplus: no i dont01:31
thompah3sp4wn: xp is (hd0,0) but its not booting. disk read error01:31
OODbut all the programs install on the root partitions01:31
OODthat's how it works01:31
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ashexchainloader +101:31
h3sp4wnthompa: Not interesting in xp at all sorry01:31
thompayes im drinking01:31
ashexthompa: that needs to be in the grub entry for xp01:31
the_hammerthat explains why ya want xp lol01:32
thompaashex: is there a way to fix grub01:32
the_hammerno one in their right mind would want a windows product01:32
ashexthompa: /boot/grub01:32
ashexor something like that01:32
ashexlemme double check01:32
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thompathe_hammer: i want it for a flight sim thats all01:32
OODthe_hammer: so that's why 99% of the world uses windows :D01:32
the_hammerlol ya01:32
thompaim not drunk yet01:33
ashex I use windows for video editing01:33
cplusplusood now save upgrade?01:33
cplusplussafe01:33
ashexgimme a program that works as good or better then Adobe Premiere 2.0, and i'd use it01:33
the_hammerim 100 % linux and never going back01:33
OODcplusplus: what?01:33
cplusplusif i install it01:33
cplusplusi have to upgrade01:33
OODupgrade what?01:33
cplusplusfull or safe?01:34
ashexthompa: inside /boot there's a grub folder, in there is menu.lst01:34
cplusplusmc!01:34
thompaashex: yes i am there01:34
ashexyou have to modify the entry for xp, i don't remember the details though01:34
OODcplusplus: i have no idea what you're taling about01:34
cplusplusmc: status: not installed: action: install01:34
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thompa!grub01:34
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ashexit's usually easier to install linux after xp :/01:34
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thompaahsex: i did, it wont boot though01:34
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OODashex: depends on the distro ;)01:35
OODashex: give someone gentoo to install and they'll freak out and never touch a computer again :P01:35
thompaashex: i mean i did, i defragged it forst then shrunk it01:35
ashexOOD, when grub is being setup, it's supposed to check the MBR beforehand and assimilate the entries into itself01:35
OODashex: yes01:35
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thompaso im hossed by xp as usaul01:36
OODthompa: what happened?01:36
ashexmy guess is that grub thinks the xp partition is ext3 for some reason01:36
ashexthompa: if you REALLY want to, you can flash the mbr back to windows :p01:36
thompaOOD: i cant boot into windows, only kubuntu and the restore partition01:36
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OODthompa: actually do that, restore the windows mbr01:37
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OODthen boot from the live cd and resore grub01:37
ashexsure, take all the credit <_<01:37
the_hammergosh you guys are making me thirsty all this xp talk makes me wanna get drunk lol01:37
thompaOOD: i think the problem is that the restore partion has an entry maybe?01:37
OODnvm that won't work01:37
OODwon't work01:38
thompaOOD: so i should restore windows mbr , then boot live to fix grub01:38
OODthompa: no, that won't work01:38
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OODyou'll just be back to square 101:38
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ashexthompa: can you pastebin menu.lst01:38
thompaOOD: what if i delete the restore partition01:39
thompamaybe reinstall01:39
thompaok01:39
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thompa!pastebin01:39
cplusplusthere was an error commining changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.. now?01:39
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:39
serialzkillerhai children of the night01:39
ashexnight? it's 4:40!01:39
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serialzkillernot in my country01:40
ashexand now i gotta call my aunt and let her yell at me for not coming over yet01:40
serialzkillerits 1;4001:40
thompaashex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1847101:40
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cplusplusOOD ?01:40
Dasnipa`serialzkiller, scandinavia?01:40
thompaashex: dont go yet01:40
cplusplusthere was an error commining changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.. now?01:40
ashexi'm just calling her :p01:40
ashexI'll be here for awhile01:40
serialzkillerno wardriving in belgium01:40
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serialzkiller:)01:40
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thompaashex: if i cant fix grub i will have to delete the restore partition maybe start over01:41
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OODcplusplus: install perfectly over here01:41
thompaashex: i also tried switching the entries but that does no good01:41
cplusplus?01:42
OODcplusplus: what distro are you using01:42
cplusplusover what?01:42
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cpluspluskubuntu01:42
OODwhat version?01:42
cplusplusbreezer01:42
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ashexthompa: comment out the restore partition01:42
OODyou should upgrade to dapper01:42
cplusplusnot now!!01:42
cplusplus;)01:42
serialzkilleruntil now kubuntu rules but phlax is still better01:42
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thompaashex: how could that help01:42
ashexactually, that probably won't do anything...01:43
OODthat might be why it's not working, it needs dependencies that breezy doesn't have01:43
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ashexI was thinking that it may have been a conflict, but grub doesn't work that way01:43
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cplusplusi whant to restore files!01:43
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cplusplusi cant upgrade now_!!01:43
the_hammerkiller ya should try out ultima its awsome01:43
thompaashex: i tried changing the entires already01:43
thompaashex: i need to reinstall grub somehow01:43
ashexuse the livecd to reinstall grub01:43
thompaashex: maybe use knoppix01:43
the_hammerlol knoppix01:44
serialzkillerultima ???? thx for the hint i will look for it01:44
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thompaashex: even if i reinstall grub, what should that do01:44
the_hammerits pretty decent im ussing it now its based off of slackware01:44
thompaashex: if i cant change entries its hosed01:44
the_hammeroptions in this puppy are endless heh01:45
serialzkillerhmm slackware very smooth my server is running at i01:45
serialzkillerhmm slackware very smooth my server is running at it01:45
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ashexthompa: it might have just been an error with grub when it was being installed01:45
ashexthere's always the possibility of that occuring01:45
ashexso, you can either try reinstalling grub, or deleting that partition01:45
ashexI'm pretty much out of ideas for the tmoment01:46
the_hammergot my copy from bittorent couldnt find it for download anywhere else but ya might get lucky01:46
thompaashex: maybe, then i am going to have to reinstall mbr with windows, then reinstall grub.01:46
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the_hammerget most of my shit from bittorent01:46
serialzkilleri Have to drive !!!! cops at 1 a clock01:46
serialzkillerby guys01:46
thompaashex: or go to windows delete restroe partition reinstall grub01:46
ashexyeah01:46
thompathats ok01:46
ashextry all the options you can think of01:46
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ashexi'll be back01:47
thompai jsut need to get rid of the restore partition01:47
ashexbooting into kubuntu finally01:47
thompa9G01:47
thompait will play better when its out of bios01:47
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cplusplushm01:50
cplusplusood whant could i do now?01:50
cpluspluswhat01:50
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Ashex|laptopGrrr!01:51
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Ashex|laptopKubuntu is still not booting01:51
Ashex|laptopall i get is a blinking cursor01:51
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Ashex|laptop!sata01:52
ubotuI know nothing about sata - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:52
Ashex|laptopbah01:52
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Ashex|laptopDid everyone die when i left?01:54
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WoostaDid you drop your laptop?01:54
Ashex|laptopHa01:54
Ashex|laptopno :p01:54
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wolfmanzhow do i get a script to run every 5 minutes ?01:54
Woostawolfmanz: cron01:55
Ashex|laptop:/ this is non-sensical01:55
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Ashex|laptopi just installed kubuntu64 to my desktop, but it doesn't boot01:55
Ashex|laptoplike, nothing happens, it's not even getting to grub stage 1.501:55
cpk1is it the only partition?01:56
cplusplushow can i install midnight commander at kubuntu breezer?? hm01:56
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Ashex|laptopcpk1, yes01:56
Ashex|laptopother then the swap of course01:56
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Ashex|laptopthe first time around i set the partitions myself so as to have space for windows, but i had the same error01:57
Ashex|laptopso i reinstalled01:57
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Ashex|laptopthis is on a 300GB Sata drive01:57
cplusplus??01:58
Ashex|laptopcplusplus, apt-get it01:58
Ashex|laptopor grab the sources and compile01:58
Ashex|laptopbut do apt-cache search to find it01:58
cplusplusapt-get mc ?01:58
Ashex|laptopi haven't a clue01:58
Ashex|laptopapt-cache search midnight commander01:59
I_Eat_PlasticHow do I play wmv file format?01:59
Ashex|laptoptry that first01:59
Ashex|laptop!video01:59
ubotuI know nothing about video - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:59
Ashex|laptop!codecs01:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:59
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cplusplus-> apt-cache search midnight commander01:59
Ashex|laptopyes01:59
cplusplusmc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager01:59
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cplusplusmc is the name!01:59
coachJcant play wmv01:59
Ashex|laptopokay01:59
cplusplusnow?01:59
Ashex|laptopthen apt-get install mc01:59
Ashex|laptop!tell coachJ about codecs02:00
cpluspluserror02:00
Ashex|laptopwhat's the error02:00
Ashex|laptoppastebin it02:00
cplusplusdo you understand german?;)02:00
Kr4t05cplusplus: makesure to use "sudo" before it.02:00
Ashex|laptopnope02:00
Ashex|laptopoh yeah, forgot about that part >_>02:00
cplusplusah i forgot sudo;/02:00
Kr4t05*cough*02:01
cplusplusseems to work02:01
cplusplusi hate kubuntu!02:01
cplusplus;/02:01
Kr4t05:<02:01
cplusplusall my data are deleted by kubuntu;//02:01
Kr4t05cplusplus: I doubt that.02:01
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Kr4t05cplusplus: methinks you just did something wrong...02:02
cplusplushow could i recover my files with mc?02:02
Ashex|laptopman mc?02:02
cplusplusmidnight commander02:02
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Ashex|laptopyeah, run man mc02:02
Kr4t05cplusplus: if you lost them when you installed Kubuntu, then you can forget about it.02:02
Ashex|laptopcheck the man for it02:02
Ashex|laptopI've never used it before02:03
dan_hey anyone get tor to work on kubuntu02:03
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dan_guess not02:04
dan_ok...02:04
dan_really didnt mean to offend anyone02:05
h3sp4wnmaybe someone can I have never tried it02:05
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dan_well actually i'm trying to install a lib file that i need for it02:06
h3sp4wnI don't think anyone was offended though - just wait a bit longer - its not a common request02:06
dan_tzones02:06
dan_it must be broken02:06
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dan_tzdata i mean02:06
dan_lol02:06
Ashexfeh02:06
Ashexdo i need to do any special modification when installing to a sata drive?02:06
cplusplushm02:07
cplusplusapt-cache search magicrescue is not found;/02:07
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dan_well maybe someone can tell me why, when i try to install tzdata_2006g-2 it tells me that it cant replace one of the files it needs to replace02:08
Ashexyou doing it as sudo?02:08
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dan_yup02:09
dan_its weird02:09
dan_i even deleted the file it wants to replace and still02:09
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dan_you think that might be a bug?02:09
crimsunI dist-upgraded yesterday just fine. What's the precise error?02:10
Ashexpastebin the error02:10
coreycould someone tell me how i can play MP3 files in Kaffeine02:10
dan_who me?02:11
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dan_error overwriting file02:11
dan_well i'll check back later02:12
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crimsuncorey: install libxine-extracodecs02:13
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dan_i really dont know why its not working02:15
cplusplusapt-cache search magicrescue is not found;/ how could i intall it?02:15
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sorush20guys karm is not allowing me to save data and add new tasks.. I can add them but then after a reboot they are all lost..02:18
TFrogis there a wireless guru in the house?02:18
sorush20not a guru? but user? what chip are you using/02:19
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dan_has anyone tried installing tzdata_2006g-2?02:20
TFrogsorush20, i'm using a Broadcom BCM4318. got it up with ndiswrapper but can't get it to boot to the desktop without losing the configuration and having to reenter it after making the desktop02:20
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sorush20what do you mean boot to the desktop?/02:21
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dan_tzdata_2006g-2?02:21
FunnyLookinHathey there helpmeee02:21
TFrogin other words, i'd like to not have to use Knetworkmanger to reload the essid and WPA-PSK key to get back up wirelessly02:21
FunnyLookinHatReason I came here was because I'm not familiar with KDE and I forget what script is run when you start it up02:22
helpmeeeFunnyLookinHat:  hella02:22
FunnyLookinHatmaybe micahcowan knows?02:22
tmdx120Hello room. How do I get my USB drive to be automatically recognized. It used to be easy until I upgraded to dapper02:22
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helpmeeeI have no idea02:22
micahcowanFunnyLookinHat: I don't... I don't think it should matter whether it's KDE or Gnome, though, there should still be an .xsession or .xinitrc or something. I don't know which, though.02:22
FunnyLookinHatmicahcowan, yea i'm not seeing an .xsession  hmmm02:23
sorush20I would recommend using MAC filter if you want your computer to access your router only. Instead of WPA-PSK, but what you are saying seemes to me to be a badly configured /etc/network/interfaces file.02:23
FunnyLookinHathelpmeee, /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc02:23
FunnyLookinHathelpmeee, sorry, do this02:23
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sorush20paste it for me into a paste bin and I'll see what i can do.02:23
FunnyLookinHathelpmeee, sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc02:23
helpmeeeFunnyLookinHat: im there02:24
FunnyLookinHathelpmeee, see the line: # global xinitrc file, used by all X sessions started by xinit (startx) ?02:24
FunnyLookinHathelpmeee, right after it put this line02:24
TFrogi've done some reading on that in the forums sorush20. still haven't come across anything positive yet. i guess i'll live with the headache for now. gave up the MS monopoly on the laptop for good from the looks of it02:24
micahcowanhelpmeee, FunnyLookinHat, I wouldn't put it there, actually.02:24
tmdx120bye for now.02:24
micahcowanOne consequence of setting the AUDIODRIVER like that is that you can only have one program using dsp sound at a time. So if you have other programs open, you're buggered.02:25
FunnyLookinHathelpmeee, export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=dsp02:25
FunnyLookinHatmicahcowan, wooops...  where then?02:25
dan_tzdata_2006g-2 anyone know whats wrong with this package?02:25
sorush20its not really that hard, once you set it up once and set it to load onboot it should be okay..02:25
FunnyLookinHathmm, best idea would be to make a bash script I suppose02:25
micahcowanIt would only apply for SDL programs so it might be okay....02:25
helpmeeeFunnyLookinHat: should I cause micahcowan said maybe I shouldnt02:25
TFrogwell, the wireless loads on boot. just won't authenticate with the router on boot02:26
FunnyLookinHathelpmeee, I can see that  : )02:26
helpmeeeFunnyLookinHat:  lol02:26
micahcowanBut I think it's better to do it in a local file (.xinitrc?) rather than global changes (although I suppose he's the only user)02:26
FunnyLookinHatmicahcowan, it should be ok since we install SDL just for this one game02:26
FunnyLookinHatmicahcowan, otherwise he is not using sdl02:26
micahcowanIf he's the only user it shouldn't be a big problem. But, helpmeee, if you later have problems with an SDL-using program not letting other things use sound, you might consider removing it.02:27
helpmeeemicahcowan: okay I guess lol.. so go ahead with what was said before?02:27
micahcowansounds good.02:27
FunnyLookinHathelpmeee, if you have any other questions go ahead and try pinging me but I might be away for quite some time tonight02:28
helpmeeeFunnyLookinHat: thats okay :) thank you for the help hehe.. think this was the biggest issue02:28
helpmeeemicahcowan: thanks for the help man <302:28
micahcowanBut looks like the user equivalent can be either .xsession or .Xsession, in the homedir (I'm on a debian system atm tho)02:28
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micahcowanhelpmeee: very welcome!02:29
helpmeeeso it should be like this . export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=dsp   ? rite below the first one02:29
h3sp4wnyou can also use .xinitrc02:29
micahcowanhelpmeee, the one that starts with a #?02:29
h3sp4wnIf you just want to startx - using xinit02:29
helpmeeemicahcowan: there is one up top with that and one below after a few lines that starts with a period02:30
micahcowanh3sp4wn: it's a full-on kdm session, I think.02:30
h3sp4wnSometimes I just use xinit02:30
micahcowanhelpmeee: honestly, it shouldn't matter where it goes, so long as it's in there.02:30
micahcowanIt should look the same as the line you typed into your bash shell, when that worked.02:30
helpmeeealright02:31
helpmeeeI just look at the things beginning with a period or w/e and assume I need to add that :)02:31
micahcowanh3sp4wn: I haven't had occaision to use a session script in ubuntu/kubuntu, but on debian it doesn't seem to acknowledge/search for .xinitrc, only .xsession02:31
micahcowanhelpmeee: the command shouldn't start with a period...02:32
helpmeeemicahcowan: so this cmd will start up when I launch a file to run quake?02:32
helpmeeemicahcowan: I know now.. just saying <302:32
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h3sp4wnmicahcowan: even if you startx using just xinit (not startx)02:32
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micahcowanhelpmeee: this cmd will start up when you start a desktop session, and will apply to every program you launch (but only SDL ones will understand it)02:33
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micahcowanhelpmeee: you'll need to log out and log in again for it to take effect, I think.02:33
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micahcowanh3sp4wn: don't think I've used startx on this machine. I suppose xinit automagically looks for .xinitrc, but doesn't when it's launched by *dm peculiarities...02:34
helpmeeemicahcowan: how do I save the file when it's in there?02:34
h3sp4wnxinit does look for .xinitrc (when nothing else is running)02:34
micahcowanum.... I dunno.... I don't use nano :-(  ...lemme check.02:35
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micahcowanhelpmeee: Control-O02:35
h3sp4wnI think people should check out zsh it has some good features compared to bash02:35
micahcowanfollowed by Control-X to quit.02:35
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micahcowanh3sp4wn: I really can't imagine adding anything to add to bash, possibly excepting coprocesses.02:36
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: It looks inside Makefiles which is really cool02:36
helpmeeemicahcowan: thanks for the hlep again <3 have a good one :)02:36
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: Shows the possible targets02:37
micahcowanhelpmeee: my pleasure, take care.02:37
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micahcowanh3sp4wn: so does bash. it's just bash-completion extensions aren't enabled by default on most distros.02:37
jariep1_what's the command to launch konqueror as root from a shell02:37
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: So how can I enable those ?02:37
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micahcowanWell, on ubuntu, I think it was already in my default .bashrc, just had to be uncommented.02:38
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helpmeeemicahcowan: I dont know what happened but now when I try to play quake3 the game slows and even the mouse moves slow in there.. maybe I need just a simple restart?02:38
micahcowanI think it refers to /etc/bash_completion...02:39
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: so if i type make then press tab it will give me install uninstall clean (cycle through all the make possibilities ?)02:39
micahcowanhelpmeee: Wow.... I don't know. Take the line right back out again and see if it still has the same problem?02:39
helpmeeealright02:39
micahcowan(after log out, log in)02:39
micahcowanh3sp4wn: Well, bash usually tries to avoid cycles when there's multiple completeions: it presents a list instead, typically (which I prefer).02:41
helpmeeemicahcowan: it's not that cmd.. maybe a simple restart would fix it?02:41
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micahcowanhelpmeee: I dunno: I don't understand why it would start doing that /suddenly/...02:41
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: For completions inside Makefiles ?02:41
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h3sp4wnmicahcowan: I know how bash works normally (only switched to the zsh for that one feature) but don't know how to enable it on bash02:42
helpmeeemicahcowan: maybe I should restart and see if it fixes it and if not come back on here perhaps?02:42
micahcowanhelpmeee: you could try it. Might as well put the line back in, then (I'd have been surprised if that worked)02:42
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helpmeeemicahcowan: lol02:42
micahcowanh3sp4wn: completions mostly work the same, whether in Makefiles or pathnames.  On the systems I've seen, my .bashrc had a reference to /etc/bash_completion that I had to comment out. Do you have that in yours?02:43
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h3sp4wnmicahcowan: My .bashrc is empty at the moment (what is the line I need in it)02:44
h3sp4wnsource /etc/bash_completion ?02:44
h3sp4wnThat is enabled by default with the zsh02:44
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micahcowanh3sp4wn: does /etc/bash_completion exist on your system?02:44
h3sp4wnYes02:44
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micahcowanh3sp4wn: the thing about the bash ones are, they're programmable. You can add your own. (I'm guessing zsh works that way, too)02:45
h3sp4wnBut its not referenced in .bashrc (I think I may have deleted it at some point) how can I get the default one02:45
micahcowanh3sp4wn: but does it exist on your filesystem?02:45
h3sp4wnIs there a way to generate a new default .bashrc ?02:45
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h3sp4wn /etc/bash_completion is there yes definately02:46
h3sp4wn.bashrc is empty02:46
micahcowanyou can copy it from /etc/skel/.bashrc. But the only line you need is, yes, to source /etc/bash_completion.02:46
micahcowanmy .bashrc has an [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]  test, but that s/b optional...02:46
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ErtainSince I'm using Kopete version 0.11.1, I would like to upgrade to 0.12.1.  Is there a Kubuntu pack for this?02:48
durocp /etc/skel/.bashrc $HOME02:49
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: I should have known to copy that (I am very tired)02:49
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h3sp4wnmicahcowan: So would you enable that completion in /etc/bash.bashrc02:50
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BKajHas anyone tried the kororaa xgl-live-cd ?02:50
micahcowanh3sp4wn: I guess if I'd been thinking, I'd have done it there instead of my own home one... but since I'm the only user... <shrug>02:51
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h3sp4wnmicahcowan: I have done it there now and it seems to be working fine (I appologise for my stupidity I need to go to bed)02:52
h3sp4wnbut it is working properly (but differently to zsh) now02:52
micahcowanh3sp4wn: how does zsh do it, cycle?02:52
micahcowanh3sp4wn: what's really fun, is argument-completion of hostnames in ssh, or even remote files for scp (if you have passwordless access) >:] 02:53
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h3sp4wnmincahowcan: It moves the screen up shows all the options underneath and then cycles02:53
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BlackHandhi, somebody with baghira theme here ?02:54
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abattoirBlackHand: me02:55
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jim__hello I am new to ubuntu and would like to know how to enable kde02:55
BlackHandabattoir: are u using gtk-qt-engine ?02:55
abattoirjim__: if you are running ubuntu, install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package using your pakage manager02:55
abattoir!kubuntu02:55
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micahcowanh3sp4wn: it doesn't seem enabled by default...02:56
abattoirBlackHand: getting weird errors w/ firefox?02:56
abattoirBlackHand: the progressbars/scrollbars are mushed?02:56
abattoirBlackHand: just a guess :P02:56
micahcowanh3sp4wn: I see. I gotta go through the configuration menu first. Cool.02:56
BlackHandabattoir: and file dialogs... and gimp is unusable, nvidia-settings too (gtk apps)02:56
BlackHandabattoir: is the theme engine then the problem ?02:57
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abattoirBlackHand: i guess this is a known problem, and afaik, it was fixed in a later version...02:57
abattoirBlackHand: so i went and got that package from debian and am using it02:57
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: I have been using either bash or tcsh all the time up until a week or so ago (appart from once trying perl-sh but it was too buggy)02:57
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BlackHandabattoir: debian sid ?02:58
micahcowanh3sp4wn: yeah, you know what? I think the cycling in zsh is just a tad cooler.02:58
abattoirBlackHand: i know it is not recommended, but it works for me02:58
abattoirBlackHand: the latest 'testing' debs, whatever debian calls it :P02:58
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h3sp4wnmicahcowan: Than bash ?02:58
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: I only use it as an interactive shell02:58
BlackHandabattoir: stable = sarge, testing = etch, unstable = sid...02:58
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abattoirBlackHand: i'll try to remember that one :P02:59
BlackHandheh02:59
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h3sp4wnunstable is closer to dapper than etch02:59
h3sp4wn(in some ways)02:59
micahcowanh3sp4wn: than bash's completion-listing, yeah. I'd rather have a list than cycling, if it's an exclusive choice, but having the list and /then/ starting to cycle... that's nifty.03:00
BlackHanduhm03:00
BlackHandedgy have the cvs version03:00
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: Thats what I meant03:00
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: Maybe I didn't get my point across clearly (Its 3am here and I am very tired)03:01
BlackHandthe version in edgy is the same in debian sid03:01
abattoirBlackHand: yes, then take that, they just synced w/ debian...03:01
micahcowanh3sp4wn: looks like it has the nifty ssh/scp completion stuff, too. Cool!03:01
abattoiri'm not sure which branch though03:01
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micahcowanh3sp4wn: anything else you like from zsh over bash?03:02
BlackHanduhm... but edgy try to update libc6 when i update baguira03:02
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abattoirBlackHand: then i suggest getting the version from debian...03:02
BlackHandwell in some time this machin will become and edgy machine03:02
abattoirBlackHand: edgy is not very stable :P03:02
BlackHands/machin/machine03:02
BlackHandthen time to backaport03:02
BlackHandbackport03:03
abattoirBlackHand: found it out the hard way :(03:03
BlackHandouch03:03
BlackHandi try to backport first03:03
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: I would always still write scripts in bash03:03
abattoirBlackHand: ok, sure :)03:03
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: Thats all I have noticed yet (haven't read all the docs yet)03:03
h3sp4wnedgy is perfect for me atm03:03
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h3sp4wn(but I haven't dist-upgraded for a bit)03:04
abattoirh3sp4wn: when did you upgrade? after the feature freeze?03:04
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h3sp4wnabattoir: Almost as soon as the repos opened03:04
abattoirh3sp4wn: someone at -devel just upgraded, faced almost the same problems as i did.03:04
abattoirh3sp4wn: oh, ok03:04
h3sp4wnabattoir: I have modest requirements though03:05
c0dahello03:05
abattoirh3sp4wn: dont tell me you dont use X :P03:05
h3sp4wnabattoir: e17 screen, xterm , firefox in /opt03:05
abattoirh3sp4wn: oh ok, because X wouldnt behave...03:05
micahcowanh3sp4wn: I've just browsed the docs, but I didn't see anything in there that bash doesn't seem to have. It looks like it had prog completion for a lot longer than bash did, though, so that was probably a chief difference for a long time.03:06
h3sp4wnabattoir: I do use X and its working at the moment03:06
abattoirh3sp4wn: when did you last dist-upgrade, if i may ask?03:06
h3sp4wnHave you just started putting xorg 7.1 in ?03:06
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dan_anyone know why i'm recieving an error message when installing the package tzdata_2006g-203:07
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: http://zsh.sourceforge.net/FAQ/zshfaq01.html#l3 (those are the advantages apparantly)03:07
h3sp4wnabattoir: I will do one now ok ?03:08
abattoirh3sp4wn: be warned... :P03:08
abattoirh3sp4wn: for me, i just went on despite the error messages03:08
h3sp4wnIts fun breaking stuff03:08
abattoirh3sp4wn: then cool :)03:08
h3sp4wnIf I think it is really stupid I wont03:08
h3sp4wnHave to look what it wants to upgrade first03:09
micahcowanh3sp4wn: a lot of them I don't grok... some of the ones I do are in bash. But not "Spelling correction"(!)...03:09
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ironfroggycan i disable the 'switch user' feature?03:09
micahcowanh3sp4wn: but lately I've been getting used to vi-mode input style in bash. I don't suppose zsh has such a feature...03:10
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Healotironfroggy: in Windows XP?03:10
ironfroggyno... in kde, on kubuntu.03:10
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LjLironfroggy: uhm, even if you disabled it, users could still login from terminal03:11
h3sp4wnmicahocowan: http://zsh.sunsite.dk/Doc/Release/zsh_17.html03:11
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micahcowanh3sp4wn: the buffer stack also looks useful...03:12
micahcowanh3sp4wn: Ah! coolness. Thanks for the vi-mode pointer.03:12
h3sp4wnmicahcowan: I just thought looking at the stuff about it I should try it so I did03:13
micahcowanh3sp4wn: some of this looks /really/ cool, like automatic quote-escaping. I'm gonna have to check this out; thanks for the tip!03:14
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intelikeyi'm probably in the wrong channel but;  howto burn files to cd-r from the cli ?     do i need to mkisofs first ?     and what are the common switches to cdrecord ?03:14
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intelikeyanyone that does that ?03:15
dan_can someone help me please?03:15
Hawkwindintelikey: man cdrecord03:15
Hawkwinddan_: With ?03:15
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abattoirhello Hawkwind :)03:15
Tm_T!helpme03:15
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:15
dan_installing tzdata_2006g-203:16
Tm_Tabattoir: yo!03:16
intelikeythanks Hawkwind i never would have thought of that...03:16
HawkwindHey there abattoir03:16
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ironfroggyLjL: i just dont want to allow multiple X sessions. my hardware is buggy with that.03:16
crimsunintelikey: I normally add driveropts=burnfree -v -dao03:16
abattoirTm_T: hello :)03:16
HawkwindThey cut a fiber line here today.  Had no net for about 4 hours :(03:16
ironfroggyLjL: the configuration that allows it on my video chipset is very obscure, and it took me a month to get it right before. but i forgot how.03:16
crimsunintelikey: but driveropts needs some knowledge of your hardware03:16
LjLironfroggy: ok, but still users logging in from a terminal will be able to start an X session...03:17
crimsunintelikey: (sorry, those are for cdrecord)03:17
intelikeycrimsun k,  and is that with or without first making an iso...   i'm not sure if cdrecord can burn just data ???03:17
ironfroggyLjL: not if x sessions are limited to a single terminal.03:17
crimsunintelikey: after having made an iso with mkisofs03:17
dan_everytime i try to install the package i get this error that says error processing /filename03:18
ironfroggyLjL: besides, i just dont want the GUI for it there. as long as its not easy to do it, forgetting that we shouldnt, thats fine.03:18
intelikeyk ty crimsun03:18
dan_trying to overwrite a certain file03:18
dan_then it says Broken pipe03:18
ironfroggyLjL: i know all the ways around it, i just want to remove it from the kmenus.03:18
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dan_so....Hawkwind, can you help03:19
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Kr4t05I'm having geometry problems...03:19
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Kr4t05What would be the bottom right corner coordinates?03:20
dan_yes no maybe03:20
dan_lol03:20
Kr4t05On 1280x1024 resolution03:20
dan_why do people ignore me when i ask this question03:20
Healot1279,1023?03:20
h3sp4wnabattoir: Still working perfectly for me (but then I started with a debootstrap of edgy)03:21
LjLironfroggy: i dunno, but a workaround i can think of is this: remove the K menu, and instead right click on the panel, choose "Add application to menubar", and then "Add this menu"03:21
Kr4t05Healot, hrm, your probably right, but this thing doesn't work. ><03:21
abattoirh3sp4wn: i guess you were lucky, did it before the sync was complete :)03:21
abattoir:P03:21
h3sp4wnI started almost when the repos opened03:22
Healoti am right, that's right, but i don't know what you're working on03:22
dan_hello?03:22
Kr4t05If I mention what it is that's giving me trouble, I'll probably be denied support.03:22
dan_lol03:22
h3sp4wnabattoir: Installing from a knot 1 cd should work ?03:22
abattoirh3sp4wn: someone just said KDE wasnt being installed properlyy...03:22
abattoir*properly03:23
abattoirh3sp4wn: dist-upgrade seems safer to me... known issues ;)03:23
abattoirw/ known solutions :P03:23
h3sp4wnabattoir: Hmm (I am using e-17 compiled from cvs at the moment)03:23
dan_so....03:23
dan_does anyone want to help me?03:23
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abattoirh3sp4wn: enlightment?03:24
intelikeyKr4t05 ok now im curious   :)03:24
h3sp4wnabattoir: DR-1703:24
h3sp4wnabattoir: Its pre alpha (but rastamans prealpha) has not crashed once for me03:24
dan_thanx03:24
Kr4t05intelikey: I bet you are.03:25
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abattoirh3sp4wn: ebuntu? :P03:25
h3sp4wnI don't know whats going on with it03:25
h3sp4wnOtherwise I am going to build an unofficial e-17 repo03:25
abattoirh3sp4wn: :)03:26
intelikeyKr4t05 i probably can't help anyway.  it's prolly a gui thang'03:26
dan_so am i just invisible or whats goin on here03:26
Kr4t05intelikey: not really.03:26
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intelikeyno03:27
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abattoirdan_: might help if you pastebin the eror03:28
abattoirand give us a link03:28
dan_ok hold on03:28
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dan_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1847703:32
dan_ok check it out03:32
Hawkwinddan_: Sorry.  Had to go grab a bowl of homemade beef stew :)03:32
dan_mmm sounds good03:32
dan_well the link is right there tell me what you think03:32
abattoirdan_: doing a dist-upgrade?03:33
abattoir!info tzdata03:34
ubotuPackage tzdata does not exist in dapper03:34
dan_oh i c03:34
dan_well how am i supposed to insall tor03:35
dan_*install03:35
crimsundan_: use the packages from tor.eff.org03:35
abattoirdan_: why are you manually installing this deb?03:35
crimsunthe versions in the Ubuntu repos are too old.03:36
dan_when i go to tor.eff.org it doesnt have a link for a deb file to download03:36
dan_so i dont know what to do03:37
Hawkwinddan_: http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorOnDebian03:37
Hawkwindcrimsun: It looks like he added the sources there on that URL and that's how he's trying to get tor03:38
dan_ok i'll try it03:38
dan_thank you03:38
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intelikeyKr4t05 ???03:39
Healotor get validia03:39
Hawkwinddan_: Did you add those sources on that URL or were you trying to get tor from native Ubuntu repos ?03:39
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dan_i added those sources03:41
thompastill cant boot xp , any grub help here?03:42
dan_now i'm trying to add the repository that it gives me in wiki but i must be retarded cause i dont know how03:42
Hawkwinddan_: Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file03:42
intelikeydan_ as root of course03:43
dan_never mind03:43
dan_oh ok03:43
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Hawkwindintelikey: Heh thanks. I took it for granted he would know that :P03:43
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intelikeyHawkwind yeah...03:43
eightiesk!mp3403:44
ubotuI know nothing about mp34 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:44
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intelikey!vlc03:44
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs03:44
thompai dont want to have to reinstall xp, i tried restoring mbr no good, i only need the crap for a couple of programs03:44
intelikey!restricted03:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:44
thompait will boot ubuntu and the restore partition03:45
Kr4t05!audioplayers03:45
ubotuI know nothing about audioplayers - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:45
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thompai will go ask at grub, i know you hate xp03:45
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intelikeythompa knows me pretty well!!!03:46
HawkwindHate XP ?  I thought we hated Windows, period03:46
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intelikeyyeah M$ in general.  but xp with a purple pasion03:47
proudfootunfortunately, I have to dual boot XP, wine isn't perfect03:48
BLAHBLAH THEY'RE ALL GAY MASOCHISTS03:48
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intelikeyblah blah blah03:48
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Hawkwindproudfoot: Neither is Windows.  What's the difference03:48
Kr4t05Do I have to play Devil's Advocate again?03:49
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Kr4t05Windows doesn't suck. But, it's not the perfect OS, either.03:49
HAWKWINDSGEI LOL03:49
intelikeycan if you like being on the loosing side Kr4t0503:49
proudfootofc its not perfect, thats why I dual boot03:49
Kr4t05intelikey: I've been on the03:49
leghumpingjihadkI'm using Konversation, how do I become "identified" so I can join a different channel03:50
Kr4t05No OS is completely fool-proof.03:50
proudfoottype /nickserv help03:50
abattoirleghumpingjihadk: /msg nickserv identify leghumpingjihadk <passwd>03:50
Kr4t05If more people used Linux, we'd have just as much spyware on it.03:50
intelikeyif you make it fool proof  they will just make a better fool...03:50
proudfootWhen did I say windows was perfect?03:50
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proudfootIndeed03:51
HAWKWINDSGEI LINUX IS A NERD SYSTEM BY AND FOR NERDS03:51
leghumpingjihadkit says it's not registered03:51
HAWKWINDSGEI WITH BAD SOUND03:51
abattoir!register > leghumpingjihadk03:51
abattoirleghumpingjihadk: your nick should easily be available....03:52
intelikeyKr4t05 that's a good arguement against the 'lets flood the network with linux nub's "  mentality that prevades *ubuntu.....     hmmmm03:52
leghumpingjihadk!register > leghumpingjihadk03:52
proudfootor at least, hopefully so03:52
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intelikeyleg you looking for   /msg nickserv help     ?03:53
SeanTaterhelp ompaul03:53
SeanTateroh , not help, hey03:54
leghumpingjihadkthank you03:54
dan_hey03:54
dan_huh03:54
dan_well it worked03:54
dan_thank you03:54
SeanTaterompaul: My connection is stable now, would you be so kind as to un-ban me?03:54
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kenshin_where i find guide for installation of nvidia drivers for my kubuntu dapper please?03:54
HAWKWINDSGEI GEE YOU DONT SEEM BANNED03:54
SeanTaterHAWKWINDSGEI: I;m banned on #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic, not #kubuntu03:55
intelikey!nv03:55
ubotuI know nothing about nv - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:55
kenshin_!nv03:55
intelikey!nvidia03:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:55
intelikeythere ^03:55
SeanTater!yell > HAWKWINDSGEI03:55
kenshin_!nvidia03:55
kenshin_ah03:55
kenshin_thx man03:55
kenshin_iam see03:55
HAWKWINDSGEI SHUT UP NERD03:56
intelikeynp03:56
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intelikeyty03:56
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Sola6662nvidia cards own all others03:57
kenshin_hey man, iam see only empy page :\03:57
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kenshin_yes... but i cant install this in my dapper :\03:58
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intelikeykenshin_ it's https:   secure port    what browser are you using ?03:59
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kenshin_firefox03:59
bLaZeDanyone use gtkpod?04:00
leghumpingjihadkdoes anyone know how to get q3 set up properly?04:00
kenshin_hey, i can see in konqueror04:00
leghumpingjihadkeverytime I start it,, the screen goes black for a few seconds, and it comes back to my desktop and the screen resolution is all jacked up04:00
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kenshin_iam going see it04:00
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Sola6662leghumpingjihadk not sure what to say04:01
leghumpingjihadkis there a config file somewhere I can open without opening q3 and configuring my monitor settings04:02
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Sola6662leghumpingjihadk i think so but not sure what it is04:02
intelikeyleghumpingjihadk /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:02
Sola6662that yeah04:02
bLaZeDleghumpingjihadk, im guessing u need drivers for you vid card04:03
the_hammerwhats the name of the installer tool in ither ubuntu or kubuntu called..starts with sys or something like that (point/click what ya wanna install)04:03
intelikeyprefered method is    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:03
Sola6662well bLaZeD it sounds like it04:03
the_hammeranyone know what im talkin about?04:04
digitalslackerthe_hammer: are you talking about synaptic?04:04
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the_hammerthats it ya04:04
intelikeythe_hammer synaptic is the gnome default   kpackage & adapt    are both kde common04:04
digitalslackernope, never heard of it04:04
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the_hammerim running ultima 8 but i wanna changed the package manager it uses kpackager04:05
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the_hammerjust shows it loading and wont stop04:05
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joelbitarHey, if I apt-get remove a program, it's configuration files are still residing in /etc.. how do I automatically remove them ?04:07
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joelbitarI'm guessing purge is involved.. but that's it04:07
intelikeythe_hammer all three are frontends to dpkg = Debian PacKaGe management system.    as are the cli tools  apt and aptitude.    all of which must be ran as root.   (generally via sudo/kdesu/gksudo)04:07
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intelikeyin other words, if you call synaptic use "gksudo synaptic"    and so forth....04:09
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dan_does anyone know how to use tor04:10
dan_lol04:10
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intelikeydan_ i'm sure someone does.04:12
the_hammerwhen the kpackage is open..theres a little menue uptop file packages cache special settings help and when i click on special says APT:Debian and then says with in there update upgrade fixup and apt-file update clicking on any of them says that apt-file needs to be installed04:12
unix_infidelis archive.ubuntu.com SUPER slow for everyone lately as well?04:12
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unix_infidelit fluxtuates between 100+KB/s and less than 1kb/s04:12
intelikeyso install it.04:13
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the_hammerthats just it i dunno the commands in terminal to install it04:13
intelikeysudo apt-get install apt-file04:13
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digitalslackerdan_: http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ04:14
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the_hammersudo: apt-get: command not found04:14
intelikeyi know it's a lot of typing and all but it's not that hard.......04:14
intelikeyaptitude then04:14
intelikeysame syntax04:14
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the_hammercommand not found04:15
Tm_Terr04:15
Tm_Tno apt-get?04:15
the_hammerya no apt-get04:15
intelikeythe_hammer ok.    sudo echo $PATH04:15
the_hammerrunning ultima 804:15
intelikeyprolly a path issue.04:15
the_hammerhmm /usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/opt/www/htdig/bin:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/lib/java/jre/bin:/opt/kde/bin:/usr/lib/qt/bin04:16
intelikeyok it's not a path issue.04:16
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eXCeSShow do i launch adept-updater04:16
Lord_Athurbye04:17
intelikeydl the package and use  dpkg -i archive.deb   to install it.04:17
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eXCeSShow do i manually launch https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots/+spec/changuard04:20
eXCeSSer04:20
eXCeSSadpet updater04:20
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intelikeyhut oh... gota take a little walk up the road.  bbl04:21
bLaZeDrealy wish gtkpod had a irc room :/04:21
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:21
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the_hammerhmm04:23
Kr4t05*sigh*04:25
Kr4t05Blah04:25
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the_hammerwish there was a place to go to get the commands im looking for..for installing synaptic into ultima04:35
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slicslakinstalling kubuntu over ubuntu is still just: apt-get install kdesktop correct?04:41
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Hawkwindslicslak: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:43
Hawkwindslicslak: It will NOT overwrite Gnome, it'll install KDE along with Gnome04:43
slicslakah, excellant.  thanks Hawkwind04:44
Kr4t05proudfoot, why did you version me?04:46
Hawkwindproudfoot: And why did you version me ?04:47
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box1anyone know exactly what file i need to point john the ripper to so i can see if it can crack my root passwd?05:25
DaSkreec1box1: That sounds remarkable like Windows05:25
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box1 = /05:26
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box1well the apps been ported to windows but it comes native in linux05:29
box1or maybe i have it backwards =/05:30
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TehKewl1I have a strange problem... xkeyboard-config conflicts with xlibs, and my Canon i250 driver depends xlibs, but forcing it to install makes it work, but wreckes apt05:37
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Ashex!rescue05:42
ubotuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"05:42
Ashex...05:42
AshexThere is no alternate CD!05:42
DaskreechAshex: They mean the Desktop CD05:42
Ashexthe live cd?05:42
DaskreechYes05:42
AshexWell, I'm on it right now05:43
TehKewl1yea but.. the problem is... I need this package installed, but it has a conficting dependancy that it doesnt really need05:43
DaskreechWait05:43
Ashexand I don't see a rescue mode05:43
WoostaTehKewl1: I have an i250 too .. if you work it out, let me know  ... never been able to get it to work on linux .. Canon only distribute binaries with old deps05:43
TehKewl1I have it working05:43
DaskreechNo they mean the alternate CD05:43
TehKewl1but I have to force install05:43
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Ashexit would help if they included that in the cd's they ship you05:43
WoostaOnly by installing old xlibs right?05:43
TehKewl1heres the driver05:43
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AshexSo, I've got 2 problems05:44
AshexI installed kubuntu64 to my new sata drive05:44
Ashexbut it doesn't boot, no grub error or anything05:44
Ashexthe second one, when i was installing kubuntu64, it reassigned the swap partition on my ide drive to itself, so I get an error 17 in Grub05:44
Ashexwhen i try to boot off that install that is05:45
Daskreechabattoir: poke :)05:45
Ashex!tell me about grub05:45
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Ashexwhat's the command to view unmounted partitions?05:48
unix_infidelAshex: fdisk -l05:49
unix_infidelshows you all partitions.05:49
Ashexand the trigger to set partition type when using mount05:50
unix_infidelAshex: also, if you want a gui, qtparted or gparted will show you all partitions and their current mount points iirc.05:50
AshexI'm blanking on these little things :/05:50
unix_infidel-t05:50
unix_infidel*sigh*05:50
AshexI'm sorry!05:50
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Ashexbleh05:57
Ashexi can't figure this out05:58
DaskreechWhat?05:58
Ashexwhen i installed kubuntu64, it formatted the swap partition on another drive05:58
Ashexso now kubuntu32 on the drive doesn't boot05:59
Ashexgrub error 1705:59
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DaskreechAshex: It's in the FAQ of the GRUB site I think06:00
Ashex17 : "Invalid device requested"06:00
Ashex This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors.06:00
Ashexthat doesn't really point me anywhere06:01
TehKewl1what will happen if I remove xkeyboard-config?06:01
Daskreechok06:02
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TehKewl1too late :P06:03
Ashexhmm06:04
Ashexi'm going to try using my grub disc06:04
Ashexi'll be back if it doesn't work :/06:04
DaskreechAshex: Hold on06:04
DaskreechDoh!06:04
Genericeh?06:04
abattoirugh, he just left :(06:04
DaskreechyEAH06:04
AshexI'm still here06:04
AshexLaptops ftw06:04
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DaskreechAshex: Sneaky06:04
abattoirAshex: ok, i share a swap b/w 32 and 64 bit Kubuntu installs06:05
abattoirAshex: shouldnt be a problem...06:05
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AshexHEh06:05
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Ashex64 kubuntu was scrapped btw06:06
Ashexwouldn't boot off the sata drive06:06
abattoirAshex: 'scrapped', so you removed it?06:06
Ashexyep06:08
Ashexgrub wasn't even showing up, no errors or anything06:08
abattoirhttp://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802 might help?06:08
abattoiroh, i thought you said error 1706:08
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Ashexoh hey06:09
AshexI did say error 1706:09
Ashexthat was a different problem06:09
AshexHeh, grub cd's are awesome06:09
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AshexI had it reinstall grub, and...it works06:09
Ashexi think06:09
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Ashexhowever, abattoir, I am interested in how you have 32 and 64 sharing a swap partition06:10
DaskreechI don't think that swap cares about bits06:10
abattoirswap, is almost like RAM, it is blanked when you boot/ shut down....06:11
ubuntu_hello06:11
Ashexyeah06:11
abattoirso the kernel looks for the partition and mounts it irrespective of what used it before06:11
abattoirthat's how i understand it06:11
ubuntu_i really need help06:11
Ashexthat's why i was so lost when grub went ballistic06:11
abattoirubuntu_: please ask your question :)06:12
ubuntu_i just made a fresh install of kubuntu06:12
Ashexooohhhhh06:12
AshexOOHHHHH06:12
Ashexman i'm an idiot06:12
abattoirAshex: what happened?06:12
Ashexso, the only reason kubuntu64 wasn't booting06:12
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Ashexwas because i changed the boot order in the bios to boot off the sata drive06:12
ubuntu_but the installer failed to make my disk bootable06:12
ubuntu_how can i make my disk bootable^06:12
Ashexbut i guess when it was installing 64, it detected the grub on the 32 drive06:12
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Ashexso it updated the grub list on there, so if i had left it to boot off that one06:13
Ashexit'd have been fine06:13
Ashex>.<06:13
abattoirubuntu_: you mean you want the boot flag on for your partition?06:13
Ashexunless i totally missed something06:13
Ashexthat sound about right?06:13
ubuntu_probably?06:13
DaskreechAshex: Yup06:13
ubuntu_i have a mac mini06:13
ubuntu_yaboot was not installed at the end of the process06:14
abattoirAshex: hmm, i dont know if it does that, are makes its own list and adds the old OS list to it...., i think the latter06:14
ubuntu_so i am running from the cd now06:14
Ashexwell poo06:14
Ashexhmm, may as well give it a shot06:14
AshexI've got my laptop if i kill it again :p06:14
abattoirsure, Daskreech seems to thinks so, so must be right ;)06:14
AshexHa, that's very reassuring06:15
abattoirubuntu_: i have no experience w/ that.. so give me a sec06:15
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abattoirAshex: i was just kidding... :P, not about the Daskreech bit though...06:15
ubuntu_abattoir: cool to have help06:15
abattoirAshex: you can definitely try that06:16
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abattoirubuntu_: one sec, help is on its way :)06:17
DaskreechAshex: As far as I know it does a scan of the drives and updates06:18
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DaskreechIt did that in the beta don't know if they changed it06:18
DaskreechHI imbrandon06:18
imbrandonubuntu_ whats going on ?06:18
imbrandonheya Daskreech06:18
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the_hammer!pastebin06:19
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:19
abattoirDaskreech: yes, but does it append to the old grub menu or make its own one and then add the found OSs to the list ?06:19
abattoiri think it does the latter06:19
Daskreechabattoir: I'll admit right now it was a single drive setup I was working with.06:19
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abattoirubuntu_: ????06:20
ubuntu_yes06:20
Daskreechubuntu_: Speak to imbrandon06:20
abattoir <imbrandon> ubuntu_ whats going on ?06:20
ubuntu_imbrandon: i just made an install of kubuntu06:21
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ubuntu_imbrandon: i have a mac mini06:21
imbrandonok06:21
imbrandondesktop cd or alternate install ?06:21
ubuntu_imbrandon: but my disk is not bootable!06:21
imbrandonand do you also have osx loaded ?06:21
ubuntu_imbrandon: mac os x is on another drive06:22
imbrandonubuntu_:  what do you get when you boot ?06:22
ubuntu_imbrandon: i cannot boot with kubuntu, the disk is usable at boot time06:22
ubuntu_imbrandon: i mean not usable06:23
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imbrandoncan you hold the option key after the apple bong and get the drive selector ?06:23
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ubuntu_i don t know?06:23
ubuntu_imbrandon: i don t know06:23
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ubuntu_imbrandon: can you tell me how to install yaboot from here06:24
abattoir'gate.pz.gov.ua'....... interesting :P06:24
ubuntu_imbrandon: if i reboot, i will no longer be here06:24
imbrandonubuntu_: try booting holding the option key, it should give you a drive selector, THEN select the penguin looking thing and login as normal and run this without quotes in terminal " sudo ybin -v "06:24
imbrandonubuntu_: someone will still be here to help if it dosent work06:25
ubuntu_imbrandon: ok06:25
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testhiya chums06:25
nirmalimbrandon: hi06:25
nirmalhi all06:26
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ubuntu_imbrandon: so i will live you now06:26
imbrandonhello06:26
ubuntu_imbrandon: thank you06:26
imbrandonnp06:26
ubuntu_thank you all!06:26
nirmalI have just installed kubuntu yesterday on 40 gb hdd06:26
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nirmalbut i would like to install xubuntu also on the same drive can i resize and insall ?06:27
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imbrandonnirmal: cool beans06:27
imbrandonnirmal: just run " sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop " from the konsol06:27
imbrandonit will install both and you will have a choice on the "menu button" at login06:27
imbrandonkonsole*06:28
nirmalbefore that i need not do any partitioning ?06:28
imbrandonnope , they will live happy on the same partition06:28
imbrandonunlike windows and linux ;P06:28
nirmaland i will get the kubuntu and xubuntu in the grub06:28
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nirmalthank you06:29
imbrandonjust when you gget to the login screen there will be a "menu button" when it asked for your user/pass choose "kde" for kubuntu or "xfce" for xubuntu06:29
imbrandonafter you run that command06:29
imbrandonno not grub06:29
imbrandonthe login screen06:29
nirmali got it06:29
imbrandonkdm/xdm06:29
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imbrandonyou can do the same for ububuntu-desktop and have all 3 actualy ;P06:30
imbrandonif you want ;P06:30
testanybody help with running dual accounts in seperate xsessions simultaneously from different machines?06:31
imbrandonubuntu-desktop*06:31
imbrandontest: sorry not I but someone might , iof not try #ubuntu06:31
imbrandons/iof/if06:31
imbrandonok i'm off gnight all06:31
testimbrandon: i tried ubuntu already. thanks. night06:31
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DaSkreec1nirmal: You don't need to resize06:32
imbrandontest: i know there are ppl that know but most that do are asleep atm, might try at a diffrent hour too, anyhhow take it easy, gnight06:32
abattoirtest: you googled?06:32
nirmali have got my cds with me will apt-get will look there or else it will go and get directly from internet?06:32
DaSkreec1imbrandon: later06:32
abattoirnirmal: you have xubuntu cd?06:33
DaSkreec1nirmal: I'd get it from the internet06:33
nirmalyes06:33
imbrandonnirmal: the internet becosue its not all on te cd06:33
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imbrandonplus the internet is updated06:33
testabatitoir: i tried to google but i think i must have typed the wrong phrase06:33
abattoirnirmal: well, it will get it from the internet, but if you are on a slow connection, you can use your cd as a source...06:33
testabatitoir: ie google didnt tell me much06:34
imbrandontest look for xdmp or xdmc logins cant rember whitch one atm , sleepy06:34
testimbrandon: thanks and goodnight06:34
nirmalthen i think the command is different plz tell me the command06:34
imbrandonnirmal: " sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop "06:35
nirmalokidoki06:35
abattoirtest: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/kdm/xdmcp-with-kdm.html ?06:35
testabattoir: thank you very muc06:36
imbrandontest: yea thats it ^^06:36
testh06:36
imbrandonok really off, gnight06:36
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ubuntu_hello06:40
ubuntu_i still have problem booting06:40
ubuntu_my disk is not bootable06:41
ubuntu_how can i make my disk bootable?06:41
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ubuntu_?06:42
DaSkreec1ubuntu_: I'm sorry it's late for most people now06:44
DaSkreec1You will probably get a lot more help in 12 hours06:44
ubuntu_ok06:44
ubuntu_thank you :-)06:44
abattoirubuntu_: wait up06:45
abattoiri'll see if i can google something06:45
ubuntu_:-)06:45
abattoirubuntu_: you used the live cd partitioner right?06:45
ubuntu_abattoir:yes06:46
abattoirand it finished the installation w/o any errors?06:47
cesarhi06:47
ubuntu_abattoir: with errors06:47
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abattoirubuntu_: any idea what?06:47
abattoirubuntu_: also you are keeping macos X right?06:47
abattoiryou shrunk it properly?06:48
ubuntu_abattoir: yes, the installer was unable to install yaboot06:48
ubuntu_abattoir: the mac os is on another disk06:48
abattoirubuntu_: can you 'show' me some of that?06:48
abattoirput it on pastebin?06:48
abattoir!pastebin06:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:48
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ubuntu_abattoir: the file is not there. i guss it is because of the cd06:53
ironfroggysound works, but not from flash plugins in firefox. am i missing a setting?06:53
cesarhi06:53
ubuntu_abattoir: may be because i don t see the volume06:53
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abattoirubuntu_: sorry, i have to go now :(06:56
abattoiri'm sure the ubuntu wiki would have something06:56
abattoiror the fora06:56
Ashexwhat's his question?06:56
abattoirplease google06:56
ubuntu_abattoir: ok, thank you :-)06:56
abattoirbye06:56
abattoirbbl06:56
Ashexbye abattoir06:56
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caribou7I'm having a problem with Krusader 1.70.0 "Round Robin" under Kubuntu when trying to run it in root mode.  If I am in normal Krusader and do Alt-K or use the Commands menu to Start Root Mode Krusader, and then enter my password, I get two error messages.  The first is "Could not find mime type application/octet-stream" and when I click OK I get "Malformed URL file:///"06:59
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caribou7Then it crashes06:59
ironfroggyhow do i get firefox to play sound trough artsd?07:00
Ashex!tell me about krusader07:01
ubotuI know nothing about krusader - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:01
Ashexbah07:01
Ashexcaribou7: what exactly is crusader?07:01
Ashex!tell ironfroggy about codecs07:01
villainbzzzzzzzzzz07:01
AshexKrusader*07:01
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ironfroggyhow is this related to codecs in anyway?07:03
Ashexsystem settings>sound07:03
villainCHALL07:03
Ashexvillain: random word usage?07:03
villainyeh opps07:03
villain*07:04
villaini c07:04
villainbill is known as satern07:05
villainsatan07:05
villain.............07:05
_rince_mrgn07:05
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villain~>07:06
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villain  ./clear07:06
ironfroggyso i was just trying to resize my ntfs partition, to give myself more room to run kubuntu, when i get this 'trying to resize ntfs partition "operation not supported" ' error... what does that tell you?07:07
villainwhat app you using07:07
geneo93what happened to java that was in repository07:08
villaingparted07:08
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ironfroggyqtparted07:08
villain>>07:08
geneo93!java07:08
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:08
Ashexjava is evil!07:08
AshexActually it's not, don't listen to me07:08
ironfroggyso is my ntfs partition borked?07:08
villaintomcat is no fun07:08
villainwebsphere is no fun07:09
villainjava is a headache07:09
Ashexironfroggy: you need to give the computer a little love07:09
Ashexshow it you care07:09
Ashexthen it might let you resize07:09
villainphp is therapeutic07:09
caribou7Sorry - Krusader is a twin pane file manager07:09
ironfroggymaybe i should just kill it07:10
caribou7Like midnight/norton/total commander07:10
AshexHa, that wouldn't solve things :p07:10
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Ashexironfroggy: check to make sure you're not shrinking the ntfs drive beyond how much data is in there07:10
villainanyone use JBOSS apps07:10
Ashexso if it's using 12/16gigs, check that you're not shrinking it below 12gigs07:10
martinnethello07:10
caribou7See www.krusader.org07:11
ironfroggyAshex: qtparted doesnt let me, and i know im not anyway. ive got about 16 gigs in there and im shrinking it to 20.07:11
Ashextwin pane? use konquruer for that07:11
Ashexironfroggy: that's rather odd07:11
Ashexwait07:11
Ashexis it mounted?07:11
ironfroggyno07:11
ironfroggyim on a livecd07:11
Ashexthe kubuntu live cd I take it07:12
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ironfroggyi tried to resize it earlier, and it failed, and i ran chkdsk in windows, and tried again and got this.07:12
ironfroggyyes07:12
Ashexhmm07:12
AshexI'm going to reboot real quick, refer to generic (my laptop)07:12
caribou7Konqueror isn't the same07:13
Genericdo mount in konsole real quick07:13
Genericjust to be safe07:13
ironfroggyoddly enough, immediately after the failed resize, i booted into windows and was using it. i had skipped the disc check.07:13
Genericit failed when you clicked commit?07:14
ironfroggythen i rebooted and run it, and after the disk check, windows wont start cause it lost some file (apparently the disk check removed it for me. how nice).07:14
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ironfroggyyeah it was defragging first, i believe, and then it died.07:14
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Genericheh07:14
Genericwelcome to my world!07:14
Genericwell, for today that is07:14
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ironfroggyhows that?07:15
Generici got my new mobo and cpu today07:15
Genericamd64 380007:15
Genericand a sata 300GB to go with it07:15
GenericI've spent the past 5 hours getting kubuntu64 installed and working07:15
Genericand you know what the funny thing is?07:15
Genericthere was never anything wrong with it, i was just being an idiot07:15
villaini c07:16
ironfroggyim really tempted to just wipe XP completely. the only reason i have to keep it now is Oblivion, which i hear already runs in winex07:16
villaindo it07:16
Genericwhen you install kubuntu to another drive and grub is already existing on another one, it updates the existing grub07:16
Generici didn't know that, so i switched the boot order to boot off sata, and nothing happened07:16
Genericso i spent 3 hours trying to figure it out to no success07:16
Genericso i installed xp to it, and it bluescreened after i installed drivers07:16
ironfroggysounds familiar. i spent hours trying to get lilo installed on an extra 200 meg hdd i had lying around, because i could get anything installed to the MBR on the root drive. after hours of work, i had lilo installed on the root drive. probably just had a command wrong to begin with.07:17
Genericand bluscreens everytime i boot into it, so that os is fucked07:17
villainlol07:17
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villainXP is like 6 years old07:18
villainwhy would you use a 6 year old OS07:19
Genericbecause it has teh games07:19
villainlol yeh i no07:19
villainbut what about cedega07:19
villaini set it up a few times07:19
villainit works for BF2 so thats all that matters07:20
GenericGuildWars runs like crap in cedega07:20
villainmost good games Cedega will suppport07:20
villainupdate your cedega07:20
villainare you using latest cedega07:21
GenericI think i am07:21
Generici don't have an account, so i haven't a clue really07:21
villainDual boot is probably better than cedega07:22
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villaincedega needs a lot of work still07:22
Genericwhen xp works07:22
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villainyeh i no i like XP for photo apps and games07:22
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villaini just wish it was available to linux07:23
Generici use it for video editing07:23
GenericI have photoshop 7 in linux07:23
villaini use photoshop CS07:23
Generichow'd you get cs working in linux?07:23
villaini think its 907:23
villainand photo impact 1107:23
Genericcs2 is 907:23
Genericcs is 807:23
villainyeh its cs207:24
Genericeh, i don't really see anything new in cs207:24
Genericother then the healing brush, which works like crap anyways07:24
Generici prefer to do it by hand07:24
villaini dont have much use for it07:24
villaini use photoimpact 11 alot07:24
villainit unlead07:25
Genericeh, photoimpact is okay07:25
Genericit's n00b friendl07:25
villainwas tring to install it on kubuntu. Using crossover office07:25
Genericfriendly*07:25
villainits very friendly07:26
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villaingood for logos and banners07:26
geneo93!java07:26
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:26
villaincrossover only supports old versions07:26
villainBOT07:27
villain.......07:27
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sysrplhello07:37
sysrpli keep losing all sound when watching videos online at sites like youtube ... does anyone know what might be causing this?07:37
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sysrpli keep losing all sound when watching videos online at sites like youtube ... does anyone know what might be causing this?07:41
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Genericsysrpl, it's a common problem07:42
Genericflash videos are teh suck07:42
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Genericdo you mean it's out of sync07:42
Genericor sound stops working afterwards07:42
sysrpli mean at some time it was working, then suddenly it it doesn't any longer07:42
sysrpli have fixed the problem once before, but now it has gone mute again07:43
sysrplit's very annoying07:43
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Genericodd07:44
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bladeofevilsbanehey can someone please give me some advice on linux?08:10
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noiesmoif lsmod returns that the Module is not used ie Used by 0 does it need to be loaded or can i blacklist it to speed up boot time08:10
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abattoirbladeofevilsbane: sure, aks08:11
abattoir*ask08:11
bladeofevilsbaneum i need to know which distribution is right for me08:11
MukiEXIs there a straightfoward guide to install fglrx drivers and xgl, preferably through an apt repository, preferbly through a script that autoconfigures?08:11
bladeofevilsbanei tried kubuntu and i didnt like it very much08:11
abattoir!xgl08:12
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:12
abattoirMukiEX: ^^^^ ?08:12
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: ok, what didnt you like?08:12
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bladeofevilsbanewell i have a 64bit processor and i couldnt get flash to work at all in kubuntu08:12
MukiEXYes, I've tried official guides through Google, and I get stuck on that annoying Mesa lib issue, or the EXT_texture_from_pixmap fiasco.08:12
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: what distros have you tried..08:12
bladeofevilsbanei heard it works in suse just fine08:12
bladeofevilsbanebut i heard suse is slow08:12
bladeofevilsbanejust kubuntu08:12
MukiEXI'm looking for something that doesn't involve doing anything after I've set everything up correctly and hit ./install , or something of the sort.08:13
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: you must undersand that flash is not officially supported for 64-bit08:13
abattoirhowever you can make it work08:13
bladeofevilsbaneoh08:13
bladeofevilsbanewhat other distros are good?08:13
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: on sec, i'll give you a link, for eg.08:13
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MukiEX!xgl ati08:13
ubotuI know nothing about xgl ati - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:13
Ashexabattoir, kubuntu64 up and running :D08:13
abattoirMukiEX: did you ask on the official channel08:14
abattoirAshex: cool :)08:14
MukiEX!fglrx08:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:14
MukiEXOfficial? Like Ubuntu?08:14
abattoir#ubuntu-xgl08:14
MukiEXUnfortunately, the thing I'm asking for, Ati(not nvidia) + XGL + KDE (not Gnome) usually results in headaches.08:14
MukiEXI'll try, thanks abattoir =308:14
bladeofevilsbaneso um08:15
bladeofevilsbanewhich other distros are good?08:15
abattoirwell, tbh i have tried only mandriva and kubuntu for 64-bit, and i prefer kubuntu because it has more packages, is better supported, has a nice community and what not...08:16
unix_infidelmost distro's have the same degree of 64-bit support.08:16
bladeofevilsbaneum08:17
bladeofevilsbanewell i have a 64bit processor so i cant run anything else can i? :(08:17
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unix_infidelbladeofevilsbane: not true.08:17
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: you can run a normal 32bit OS08:17
unix_infideli'm just saying, most distro's have about the same degree of support for 64bit platform.08:17
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abattoirbladeofevilsbane: i, for example run both 32 and 63 bit on an AMD turion...08:17
bladeofevilsbaneum08:17
abattoir*6408:18
unix_infidelwhich honestly is a waste of money if your buying it just because of the 64bit and not because of the increased throughput on a desktop.08:18
bladeofevilsbanewhat about gentoo? someone told me that its the best distro08:18
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unix_infidelbladeofevilsbane: it's best to hit distrowatch.com and research it for yourself.08:18
bladeofevilsbanebut i dont even know what to look for:(08:18
abattoirwell, i havent tried it, and this might best be a conversation for #kubuntu-offtopic08:18
unix_infidelbladeofevilsbane: that's what that URL is for.08:19
Ashexhahahahahaha08:19
Ashexabattoir, you're funny08:19
Ashexofftopic....08:19
abattoirAshex: :)08:19
unix_infidelotherwise, you'll spend hours and hours using a distro you're not comfortable with.08:19
Ashexi'm going to try tremulous on my new system08:19
Ashexsee if i kick more ass08:19
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: different people prefer different distros, that's why all the variations exist08:20
bladeofevilsbanethis doesnt tell me which ones are fast and easy to use :(08:20
syperchaicisn't spending hours on a distro what it's all about?08:20
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Ashexyeah08:20
cantinstallkubunhey08:20
syperchaici thought that was how one got the right to proclaim that distro-X is better than distro-Y08:20
Ashexwhen i first started on linux, i went through 6 distros in 4 days08:20
Ashexi barely slept the entire time08:20
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syperchaic*sigh* good times...08:20
abattoirAshex: hehe08:20
Ashexyeah, i learn linux by breaking things08:21
syperchaici've always run into some silly little problem that stopped me going ahead any further, got disheartened and went to play games on w3208:21
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bladeofevilsbaneim still confused :(08:21
bladeofevilsbanethis site doesnt tell me which ones run fast and which ones are easy to use08:21
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Ashexwhich ones "runs fast" is purely opinion08:21
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: all those are perceptory terms08:21
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cantinstallkubunAnyone help me out? I'm trying to install   kubuntu linux of the live CD, I click installand it does alot of things which it says "ok" to, then it goes black for a few secs now it's stuck on a kubuntu logo with a loading bar that isnt loading.  If I turn of hte machine it says off to everything and ejects them.  Anyone kno wwhat I need to do?08:22
amaraai need help08:22
AshexIMO the easiest ones would be kubuntu, ubuntu, and SuSE08:22
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syperchaicas for running fast, it's all on what you actually run, not the distro so much08:22
amaraaanyone help08:22
syperchaicknoppix!08:22
|lostbyte|amaraa, ?08:22
|lostbyte|!ask08:22
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:22
amaraai using Kubuntu08:22
unix_infidelbladeofevilsbane: think of it like this...most all distro's are fast enough.08:22
bladeofevilsbanebut alot of people told me suse is slow and i didnt like kubuntu :(08:22
abattoircantinstallkubun: was the installation completed?08:22
unix_infidelbladeofevilsbane: prepare a list of what you want. and then compare it with reviews on google searches.08:22
cantinstallkubunDunno,08:22
unix_infidelif you dont know what you want, no one can help you decide which distro is "l33test"08:23
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: i seriously request you to carry on this conversation in #kubuntu-offtopic :) please08:23
bladeofevilsbanebut i dont know what i want :(08:23
amaraamy root permission08:23
syperchaicthe way a distro feels can change when you try a different window manager for instance08:23
bladeofevilsbaneum i dont know how to abattoir08:23
syperchaictry iceWM it's teh leet08:23
Ashexbladeofevilsbane, /join #kubuntu-offtopic08:23
Ashexbetter yet, hop over to ##linux08:23
cantinstallkubunnope, still not installed08:23
abattoircantinstallkubun: so you see this 'logo' when you boot up?08:23
abattoircantinstallkubun: or are you referring to the installation window?08:24
syperchaicany ideas on why my mp3s don't work in kubuntu?08:24
abattoirsyperchaic: amarok?08:24
abattoir!mp3 > syperchaic08:24
AshexHey, that's a new one08:24
amaraahey lostbit08:24
Ashexi always used !tell08:24
amaraaare u listen me08:24
amaraa?08:24
cantinstallkubunIt boots off the CD, I choose Start or install kubuntu, it does some stuff and oks it all, then it goes black for a sec, than comes back to the same screen but not oking anything, just sits there. I let it sit there for about 20 mins08:24
abattoirAshex: ubotu is intelligent ;)08:25
ironfroggyso how insane is it that a move between two directories in the same samba share is doing it _one_ _file_ _at_ _a_ _time_?08:25
amaraaanybody help08:25
syperchaicthat's so cool08:25
Ashexamaraa, desribe your problem and we will do out best to assist you08:25
Ashexs/out/our08:25
abattoircantinstallkubun: so you dont see the desktop, after you boot from the cd?08:25
amaraanow i install my pc kubuntu08:25
amaraaand i cant logon my root08:26
cantinstallkubunNope, I just see the bar that it shows when it's loading stuff and oking them at the beggining with the word kubuntu and it freezes there08:26
Hobbsee!root08:26
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:26
Ashexamaraa, use sudo to become root08:26
Ashexand check that link for more info08:26
abattoircantinstallkubun: you remember the last 'message'08:26
abattoir??08:26
bladeofevilsbanenobody in the linux place is answering me :(08:26
alexiconhiyas, anyone here savvy with iwconfig?? im trying to setup wireless on my dell 600m [intel wifi chipset]  and its saying invalid argument to iwconfig eth1 txpower on08:26
|lostbyte|amaraa, Huh ? whats up with the root ?08:26
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: #kubuntu-offtopic?08:26
cantinstallkubunI'll run it again, one second08:26
amaraasu08:26
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amaraasudo08:27
amaraa?????08:27
DeshHow do I check what kernels I have on my system?08:27
|lostbyte|amaraa, You cant start x as root.08:27
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abattoirDesh: 'uname -r'08:27
abattoirthat'd show the current kernel used08:27
Deshabattoir: I mean all the kernels available08:27
abattoiryou can used adept to find all the kernels installed08:27
DeshAh ok, thanks.08:27
bladeofevilsbaneamaraa to run a command as the superuser you type sudo followed by the command08:27
cantinstallkubunAlright, it;s at the screen where it's loading essential drivers, mounting root file system etc.  Waiting for a few mintues08:27
bladeofevilsbanelike example sudo apt-get install08:28
bladeofevilsbaneand then enter ur password08:28
|lostbyte|amaraa, You mean a command.. ?08:28
bladeofevilsbanei think08:28
abattoirDesh: or 'apt-cache search linux-image'08:28
bladeofevilsbaneam i right? =(08:28
alexiconiwconfig anyone??08:28
amaraaplease i wait08:28
DeshQuestion, I am running the 32bit version of Kubuntu on an AMD64bit machine, first I'd like to know if there is a problem with this, and secondly, which kernel version I should use.08:28
amaraai now typing sudo08:28
abattoirDesh: its perfectly fine08:28
abattoirDesh: i386 or i686 should be good08:28
Deshabattoir: any advantages with the 686?08:29
|lostbyte|alexicon, ?08:29
alexicontrying to setup a wifi card, and getting an error on iwconfig eth1 txpower on   SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument.08:29
cantinstallkubunThe last thing it "Okd" was something periodic, flashed to fast to see.  Then it flashed a large screen which was all black for a split second which said ubuntu linux 6.06 then ALOT of writing going half way down the screen.  Now it's once again where it was OKing things, but no OKing things, just sitting there08:30
|lostbyte|alekibango, remove that command from the interfaces file..08:30
|lostbyte|alekibango, if you have one.08:30
alexiconinterfaces?? /etc/?08:30
alexiconiftab?08:30
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abattoirDesh: sorry, was away, different CPU optimizations...08:31
alexicongotcha lostbyte08:31
alexicon/etc/network/interfaces08:31
abattoirDesh: 686 should be good for an athlon :)08:31
cantinstallkubunnow I CTRL+ALT+DELTED and it stopped everything08:31
alexiconstill makes no sense tho08:31
alexiconi want to power on the radio08:32
amaraai cant do sudo08:32
alexiconthe device is there08:32
Deshabattoir: ok thanks, if I delete the old kernels with adept, will it remove all the headers and what not?08:32
|lostbyte|alexicon, pls paste the command you are using ?08:32
abattoirDesh: i'm not sure about the headers... just check...08:32
alexicon sudo iwconfig eth1 txpower on08:32
DeshOk08:32
alexiconi was using kwifimanager, thats the command that program tries to run to enable the radio apparently08:33
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abattoircantinstallkubun: do you see 'Adding Livecd user' ?08:33
cantinstallkubunScrew it I'm just installing SuSE linux atleast the installer worked,08:33
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cantinstallkubunAnd yep, that's one of the first things I see08:33
|lostbyte|alexicon, what card ?08:33
abattoircantinstallkubun: whatever suits you08:33
alexiconintel, not sure how to verify which im using, its a dell laptop inspiron 600m08:34
alexiconthought it would be something pretty generic08:34
alexiconiwconfig sees it there08:34
Deshabattoir: ok, I want to get the new 686 kernel, so I install linux-image-2.6....-686, linux-image-686, linux-headers-686, is that it?08:34
alexiconi just cant enable it08:34
abattoircantinstallkubun: you can use the alternate cd if you have an old monitor/card08:34
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abattoirDesh: looks good...08:34
DeshOh and restricted modules08:34
cantinstallkubunMy moniter is a LCD Widescreen tv, my card is a ATI Radeon x70008:35
|lostbyte|alexicon, what do you get for iwlist wlan0 txpower ?08:35
abattoircantinstallkubun: a laptop?08:35
|lostbyte|replace wlan0 fro eth1.. :)08:35
cantinstallkubunNope, desktop08:35
abattoircantinstallkubun: seems like it, try booting w/ acpi off08:35
Deshabattoir: and I shouldn't get the k7 kernel instead of 686?08:35
abattoircantinstallkubun: ok, anyways try that08:35
alexiconeth1      unknown transmit-power information.08:35
alexiconCurrent Tx-Power:off08:35
abattoirDesh: hmmm... not sure...08:35
abattoircantinstallkubun: any chance the cd is bad? scratched?08:36
|lostbyte|alexicon, i cant see anything wrong..08:36
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alexiconme either :/08:36
alexiconoh well08:37
|lostbyte|alexicon, could be a comfliting driver ..08:37
cantinstallkubunHow would one disable acpi08:37
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|lostbyte|alexicon, do you have ndiswrapper installed ?08:37
alexiconlostbyte, is it bothered that im using eth0 at the same time?08:37
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abattoircantinstallkubun: does the 'safe mode' thing work?08:37
|lostbyte|alexicon, YEah ! but is it another wireless card ?08:38
abattoircantinstallkubun: its the second or third in the menu, iirc08:38
alexiconno its my cabled connection08:38
the_hammerto make a new user account in terminal its the same way through all systems of linux right like commands ther same?08:38
alexiconhrm08:38
alexiconi dont have ndiswrapper08:38
alexiconlemme get that08:38
|lostbyte|alexicon, then, its does'nt matter..08:38
alexicono08:38
cantinstallkubunIm about to give it a shot.08:38
alexiconok let me get ndiswrapper08:38
|lostbyte|alexicon, you dont need it..08:38
alexiconoh ok08:38
|lostbyte|alexicon, you can an intel card.. what model ?08:39
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|lostbyte|can/have*08:39
abattoircantinstallkubun: good08:39
alexiconim not sure which model lostbyte, how can i find out?08:39
alexiconis there a /proc for it?08:39
cantinstallkubunif I cant get this working I always have my gentoo/SuSE CDs08:40
alexiconlspci?08:40
alexiconIntel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)08:40
abattoircantinstallkubun: like i said before, whatever suits you :)08:40
the_hammeranyone know how to add users using terminal?08:40
alexiconthe_hammer: man useradd08:41
bladeofevilsbane=( nobody will help me in the linux room :(08:41
cantinstallkubunWith safe graphics, it launched the desktop though can I installf rom here?08:41
Healotbladeofevilsbane: becayse you don't ask any question08:41
Healot!ask08:41
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:41
abattoircantinstallkubun: yes, you can08:41
bladeofevilsbanei already asked and was told to go somewhere else08:42
bladeofevilsbaneso i did an i asked there an nobody would help me :(08:42
alexiconwhat is your question bladeofevilsbane!?!08:42
bladeofevilsbanei need help choosing a good distro08:42
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: #kubuntu-offtopic08:42
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: third time, i'm telling you08:42
cantinstallkubunHuzzah! It works! *Throws SuSE Linux CDs at walls* I can sleep again! *2:42 am here*08:42
Healothoh, no wonder08:42
abattoiri'm sure people there will speak with you08:42
abattoircantinstallkubun: cool :)08:42
bladeofevilsbanesee nobody wants to help me =(08:42
cantinstallkubunThanks for the help ^.^08:42
ChefWillanyone know how to manually save a sesson w/o logging out?08:43
alexiconbladeofevilsbane: that was help, please try that offtopic channel if you arent asking a specific kubuntu question08:43
ChefWillor at least how to manually configure what starts and what doesnt08:43
cantinstallkubunlol, I think I'm going to need to make this computer ubuntu to :O08:43
alexiconChefWill: you still using kde?08:43
Healotdefine "good distro" >> bladeofevilsbane08:43
cantinstallkubun*Kubuntu08:43
abattoirChefWill: KDE session manager?08:43
ChefWillalexicon: yes08:43
alexiconnod^08:43
|lostbyte|alekibango, there is a package for kubuntu on your card, but its in source..08:43
|lostbyte|alexicon, ^^08:43
ChefWillabattoir: built in?08:43
alexiconyeah its in kcontrol somewhere08:43
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bladeofevilsbanei dont know healot i dont know anything about linux =(08:44
alexiconermm where..08:44
abattoirChefWill: Kcontrol -> KDE components->...08:44
bladeofevilsbanei know that i dont like kubuntu tho =(08:44
alexiconwhat dont you like about it bladeofevilsbane08:44
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abattoirbladeofevilsbane: dude, last time i'm telling you come to #kubuntu-offtopic, we'll discuss there08:44
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bladeofevilsbanei was answering a question abattoir =(08:44
ChefWillah thanks08:44
alexiconlostbyte Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)08:44
bladeofevilsbanedont get mad at me =(08:44
ChefWill"Restore manually saved session" is what i want i guess08:44
intelikeykubuntu installed crashes a lot doesn't it...08:44
|lostbyte|alexicon, apt-get install ipw2100-source08:45
alexiconcheers lostbyte08:45
abattoirbladeofevilsbane: i've told you 4 times, its hard to help others when your messages drown it :(08:45
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alexicon**~~bladeofevilsbane~~**  what didnt you like about kubuntu????08:46
abattoirwho else wants to join our distro discussion ? ;)08:46
alexicon:P08:46
alexiconi'll battle this out with you abattoir08:46
bladeofevilsbaneif i answer you alexicon abbatoir will just get mad at me again =(08:46
syperchaicdoes anyone like debian here?08:46
abattoiralexicon: hehe #kubuntu-offtopic it is then08:46
intelikeyman the graphical installer is un-usable !08:46
||Trayer||Has anyone here attempted/Had success and running WoW Under Wine On Kubuntu? I had it on my Gentoo08:46
alexiconbladeofevilsbane: what was your problem with it bladeofevilsbane so i can suggest a solution or a distro that better does what you need...08:46
alexiconkk abattoir08:46
duckdownHey all, I am trying to search for a string in a directory but need a result that shows the filename.  (cat * |grep MYWORD shows the results I need to pinpoint..)08:47
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Healotintelikey: the bug has been filed, get the latest build of desktop CD...08:47
intelikeyHealot: yeah dl it on dialup...   maybe not.08:48
syperchaic!ubotu08:48
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:48
syperchaicahh omniscient irc...08:48
intelikeywhat i need is the server cd     i don't like desktops anyway.  they are all pointy clicky  yucky08:49
||Trayer||Ahh, the done to death topic, KDE vs Gnome08:50
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||Trayer||Another issue has come up in my installation, The installer appears to have froze at "Creating ext3 file system for / in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda)...08:51
intelikeyi just migrated three hd's to ext3  so things on this box are still abit messy.  and i figured 'hey iv got the cd why not give it one more try...'08:52
intelikey||Trayer||: yeah i was just bitching about the installer too....08:52
||Trayer||intelikey: Wurd08:53
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||Trayer||I'm not quite sure how ubuntu/kubuntu cores are different, but if I download a ubuntu build of AMSN will it work on kubuntu?08:54
intelikeyi found an easy way to make it leave the other drives alone though.   i sudid rm /dev/hd*    then started the installer.  hehhe now all it can find are the scsi disks08:54
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intelikeywell it crashed again with 'failed to create file system'  and i told it to automatically partition sda that time.08:56
bladeofevilsbane=( nobody will help me08:56
intelikeybladeofevilsbane: what was your Q ?08:57
||Trayer||How does one set a static IP in Kubuntu? Through a KDE control panel right?08:57
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bladeofevilsbanei dont know which distro to use and i cant make my music work in kubuntu =(08:58
intelikeybladeofevilsbane: tried vlc ?08:58
alexiconintelikey: hes on a livecd...08:58
intelikeycan't install on the live ?08:59
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alexiconi dunno whats on the 64bit livecd08:59
alexiconbut *ubuntu never has mp3 support by default08:59
intelikeyno but vlc does09:00
||Trayer||How does one set a static IP in Kubuntu?09:00
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Healotvia the file /etc/network/interfaces; start with man interfaces ;09:00
Healotor enter the IP address manually using ifconfig command09:01
||Trayer||so what would be hte exact command to set it? (IP Wanting to be 192.168.1.50)09:01
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ChefWillanyone here use Baghira ?09:02
intelikeysudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.50 up09:02
Healotfor starter "sudo ifconfig <interface> <IP address> netmask <netmask>"09:02
Healotup :)09:02
||Trayer||intelikey: Will this be permanent aka not need to be reset every time?09:02
thykohow do i install gtk-config?09:02
intelikey||Trayer||: nope09:03
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Healotto make permanent every boot time add the entry to /etc/network/interfaces;09:03
intelikey||Trayer||: set it in the interfaces file like healot said.09:03
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||Trayer||Healot: I'm not the most expierienced with linux, I'm more of a mac person, how does one change this?09:03
Healotsomething like "auto inet eth0 static"09:03
intelikeyor add the ifconfig command to an init script....   not the ubuntu way, but it works.09:03
Healotfirst open the file /etc/network/interfaces ? ||Trayer||09:04
thykoany ideas?09:04
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||Trayer||Healot: Doing09:04
Healot!find gtk-config09:04
ubotuNo packages matching 'gtk-config' could be found09:04
Healotok... did you prefix sudo while typing the command, ||Trayer||?09:05
intelikeythyko apt-cache search gtk | grep conf09:05
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Healotfile /etc/network/interfaces needs root access to write...09:05
thykoi'm trying to install php-gtk09:05
||Trayer||I'm in the file09:05
||Trayer||What do I change09:05
Healotsee the part "auto inet ethX"?09:06
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intelikeythyko apt-cache search php-gtk    and install it.09:06
||Trayer||Actually, know09:06
||Trayer||*no09:06
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||Trayer||= \09:07
Healot||Trayer||: flush the content of the file to pastebin09:07
Healot!paste09:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:07
||Trayer||It's on my other computer, Should I copy out the whole file?09:08
intelikeyyou mean type it?   the comments you can skip.09:09
Healotwhichever suits you, yeah skip the commented lines09:09
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thykoi cant find php-gtk on apt-get09:10
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Healot!find php-gtk09:10
ubotuNo packages matching 'php-gtk' could be found09:10
Healot!find phpeditor09:10
ubotuNo packages matching 'phpeditor' could be found09:10
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||Trayer||It's in the pastebin09:11
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intelikeyand the url is ???????09:12
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||Trayer||http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1850009:12
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ChefWillanyone here use the kwin-baghira theme?09:13
nirmaldid anyone install clearsilver on ubuntu09:13
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alexiconLOL theres a linux driver for the playstation ddr mats X-D09:14
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alexiconheh09:15
intelikeysomeone please give me the major and minors for sda1 and sda5 ?09:17
Healotmajor and minor?09:18
intelikeyyeah.09:18
syperchaicumm... A#, Gb, Eb, C09:18
intelikeyls -l /dev/sda109:18
syperchaicdoes that make sense to you? because it doesn't to me09:19
intelikeynope.09:19
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intelikeybrw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 2006-07-21 05:31 /dev/sda09:20
intelikeylike that  ^   major 8 minor 009:20
intelikey ^ block device09:20
syperchaicwhat do the major and minors do? what are they used for?09:21
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intelikeytell me how to make the block device09:21
intelikeyso i can then access it09:21
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||Trayer||how does one open a .deb file such as the one for amsn?09:22
intelikeyit's basic addressing.09:22
abattoir||Trayer||: 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb'09:22
RawSewagesudo dpkg -i  name.deb09:22
intelikey||Trayer||: open ?  or install ?09:22
||Trayer||Install09:22
intelikeyyeah dpkg -i09:23
abattoir||Trayer||: where * is the name of the package09:23
intelikeyabattoir: path and name.09:23
intelikeyso is sda1   8, 1  ?09:23
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syperchaicintelikey:  my sda1 is the same.09:25
intelikeysame as ?09:25
syperchaic8, 109:25
intelikeyk  thank you.09:26
syperchaicsda is 8, 009:26
intelikeyyep09:26
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intelikeyi thought that was where they went.  but needed some confirmation09:26
syperchaic... not that it's mounted or anything09:26
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raynerhi09:26
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liviuxHi all.09:27
syperchaicHIIIIES HAPPY TIMES09:27
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syperchaichmm, maybe I should stop watching so much japanese wapamation09:27
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syperchaicBYEEES SAD TIMES09:28
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||Trayer||where/how do I get vlc player?09:31
intelikeyok it formated ok... now if i can just get the graphic installer to skip the partitioning step.....09:31
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alexiconlostbyte you still around? ive got that module installed, but im not sure whats going on. still not working09:32
alexicon!paste >> alexicon09:32
alexicon!paste > alexicon09:33
intelikeydoes the redirect really work ?09:33
intelikey!paste > ubotu09:33
alexiconyah09:34
alexicon!paste > intelikey09:34
Lunar_Raven!paste > Lunar_Raven09:34
alexiconheh09:34
Lunar_Raveninteresting09:34
Lunar_Ravenlol09:34
alexicon^_^09:34
Lunar_Raven!kbfx > Lunar_Raven09:34
ubotuI know nothing about kbfx  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:34
Lunar_Raven!kde > Lunar_Raven09:34
intelikey!tell blah about blah      used to work too09:35
Lunar_Ravencool09:35
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intelikey!tell Lunar_Raven about ubotu09:35
Lunar_Raven:D09:35
alexiconhaha09:35
intelikeyanyone know the command to make irssi only use one window ?09:37
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||Trayer||anyone know how I can listen to MP3s... I tried using "juk" nothing will play09:37
alexicontrayer did you get the mpeg libs?09:38
||Trayer||Nope, where can I get them, add remove programs?09:38
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs > ||Trayer||09:38
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB09:38
alexiconyeah09:38
deltahi09:38
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alexiconi usually just search adept for mpeg, look for the lib that has mpeg 3 ...09:39
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alexiconbut yeah those libxine codecs are good to have09:39
||Trayer||xine player/The codecs are appearing in gray, whats with that?09:40
alexiconyou added the repositories??09:40
alexiconmultiverse/universe09:40
||Trayer||no idea what that means = \09:40
andrew_How do I allow my Adept to use all repositories?09:41
alexiconin adept you:09:41
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alexiconlol09:41
alexiconView > manage repositories09:41
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andrew_I can't find nvidiaglx09:41
||Trayer||I just have view manage changes09:41
alexiconright click the grey ones and enable them09:41
alexiconhmm? in adept trayer?09:42
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||Trayer||yeah, in adept I'm only getting Review Changes09:42
alexiconfor me View has, show package list, manage repositories, show last dwnld, show last dpkg run09:42
renegood morning. does anyone have experiences with setting up kubuntu together with a windows xp home (oem)? i was told running kubuntu together with a oem version of windows wont work. is this true?09:42
LynoureI don't seem to be able to unmount my usb drive, not even as a root. It's claiming to be busy. lsof never finishes, so   lsof | grep sda1   also does not finish. It got mounted automatically for me but when I try to umount it as a user I get claim that it is not in fstab and I cannot umount it as I'm not root. And as a root I cannot umount it either: "umount: /media/sda1: device is busy". And nothing should be accessing it, really.09:43
thykoRene: i doubt it, it should work09:43
andrew_No you can dualboot the easy.09:43
alexicontrayer, above preview changes button09:43
alexiconadept   edit    view    settings   help09:44
renethyko: problem is after having installed kubuntu, restarting and choosing windows in grub, the vaio recovery tool says my system is broken and wants to set the noteback to the original state09:44
||Trayer||just a second09:44
LynoureWhat can I do? I feel hesitant to umount -f it or just unplug it.09:45
renethyko: even if i tell kubuntu setup not to set up grub in mbr but on the linux partition09:45
alexiconLynoure: dmesg saying anything about it09:45
alexiconwhats teh device?09:45
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Lynourealexicon: loads of things...09:46
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alexiconheh09:46
alexiconhow much data is at stake? :P09:46
Lynourealexicon: I'll put them into a paste bin09:46
alexiconok09:46
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andrew_Is there any way to get nvidiaglx on adept?09:46
alexiconandrew i believe you can get the source, then run module-assistant to install it09:47
Lynourealexicon: It stores the contents of two computers that no longer have that data... so, yep, quite a lot.09:47
alexicon:o09:47
Lynoure!pastebin09:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:47
intelikeyhmmm i think the installer is actually going to install something this time.... after only 3 hours...... imagen that !09:49
Lynourealexicon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1850109:49
alexiconk09:49
Lynourealexicon: I even tried remounting it ro, then unmounting, but no, still busy09:49
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alexicon:/09:50
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intelikeyLynoure: what ya trying to umount ?09:50
alexiconusb hdd09:50
alexiconwhats the fs on it Lynoure09:50
Lynoureintelikey: /dev/sda1  , which was originally mounted for me automatically by kubuntu09:51
intelikeyany open applications on that drive ?09:51
intelikeylsof | grep sda09:51
Lynourealexicon: ext309:51
Lynoureintelikey: like I said, does not finish09:51
alexiconps saying anything about it?09:52
intelikeylsof doesn't finish ?09:52
alexiconlsof can be a pain like that though09:52
Lynoureintelikey: yep, does not.09:52
liviuxHi all. I'm going to change my Fedora (bad) to kubuntu, but I saw that the download file of the 6.06 version is about 690 Mb, while other distro (Knoppix , Fedora) are about 4 Gb. Is Kubuntu poor of contents to the beginning?09:53
alexiconany zombies hanging on to it?09:53
Lynoureintelikey: first gives me loads of stuff, the does seemingly nothing.09:53
intelikeysudo eject /dev/sda109:53
alexiconliviux: knoppix is a livedvd now, thats why its so big. the kubuntu is a livecd install, and once you install you can add whatever you need09:53
intelikeyor remove what ever....09:54
Lynoureintelikey: busy, umount failed and so on09:54
liviuxgreat thank you so much09:54
alexiconnp liviux enjoy :)09:54
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Lynourealexicon: I'm not really sure what to look for, nothing mentions it09:54
Lynourealexicon: I'm not new to linux but new to kde/kubuntu09:55
intelikeyLynoure: how bad you want it unpluged ?09:55
alexiconits crit data intelikey09:55
alexiconi would venture to say its probably fine09:55
alexiconive had to rip things out before09:55
alexiconbut09:55
alexiconi feel your worry09:55
alexiconheh09:55
alexiconcan you read the data?09:56
alexiconeven if you cant umount the drive, is it still available?09:56
LynoureYes.09:56
intelikeyalexicon: i didn't ask that, just what measure should we take to get free from it.   cause  kill -9 -1 and umount the thing would almost surely get it.09:56
Lynoureit's mostly silent, occasionally makes noises.09:57
alexiconnod intelikey09:57
intelikeythen restarting the system with init 3   should bring the gui back on line09:57
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LynoureThat's better than just shutting down and unpluging?09:57
intelikeymaybe the phrase 'restarting...' is out of place there.09:58
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intelikeyLynoure: if you would rather do it the slow way,  they are pretty much equal in outcome09:58
LynoureI could pastebin my ps results too...09:59
s9141038bye bye09:59
s9141038Bye Bye09:59
LynoureBut I think this has happened once before with this disk... And I'll need to use it in the future. hmmm.09:59
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||Trayre||So, how do I add respotoires to the adept?  Under view I just got review chagnes10:00
alexiconhrm10:00
alexiconthats strange trayre10:00
intelikeyLynoure: if you remounted it ro  the data is static on it.  you could unplug at any time.     only thing about removing an fs that the system thinks is still mounted, it may hang your box.10:00
||Trayre||I can take a screen shot and stick it in the pastebin = \10:00
alexiconheh yeah, or just link us up anywhere10:01
alexiconone of those menu options should have manage repositories though10:01
Lynoureintelikey: that's not that bad.10:01
||Trayre||Also, how does one get VLC player? There's nothing to download on their site10:02
Healot!info vlc10:02
ubotuvlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB10:02
intelikeyyeah if it ro the data is safe.  that's what the root fs is when you kill the system.  it remounts ro and then powers off.10:02
Healot!universe10:02
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:02
Lynoureintelikey: I know.10:02
alexiconyeah we're trying to get there in adept healot10:02
Lynoureintelikey: I just wish I knew what's causing  this10:02
||Trayre||>_>; Useful, if I could change my respoitories10:02
alexiconi guess you could just manually edit the file trayre10:03
LynoureNow the pastebin stopped liking me10:03
||Trayre||Bahaha, I have bad luck with that.  Where's the file?10:03
intelikeyLynoure: lets see the output of  "ps -A x "10:03
Lynoureintelikey: did that already, just having trouble contacting pastebin10:04
alexicontrayre /etc/apt/sources.list10:04
Lynoureintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1850510:04
intelikeyerr scratch that.  this system is not hardly finished installing and it will want to reboot.   i should mind my own business.10:04
||Trayre||Strange, the option just appeared this time I ran it10:04
alexiconlol10:05
alexiconok so right click the grey lines like these:10:05
alexicondeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe10:05
alexicondeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse10:05
alexiconand do enable10:05
alexiconthen apply10:05
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Lynourealexicon: do you see anything weird in the process list?10:05
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alexicontrayre if you cant find those lines, just paste them one at a time into that blank line at the bottom10:06
Lynoure...other than it getting cropped sideways :)10:06
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||Trayre||They're still appearing grey in the add remove programs, even though I added the respotoires10:07
alexiconLynoure: can i be a pain and get you to pastebin this command: ps -A --forest -o pid,pgrp,user,nice,cputime,%cpu,%mem,command10:07
alexicondo the update thingy too i think10:07
alexiconfetch update10:08
alexiconyou gotta update the package list after changing the repositories10:08
||Trayre||So, how do I do that?10:08
alexiconbutton at the top10:08
alexiconfetch updates :)10:08
||Trayre||Ahh, Genious *It's 4:08 am, And I've been having lots of technical troubles mmmkay? Go easy : P*10:08
alexiconhehe10:09
Lynourealexicon: I'm the one who is a pain here... so sure, wai a min10:09
alexicon;010:09
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||Trayre||Xine is STILL appearing grey, though everything else is appearing = \10:09
alexiconhrm10:09
Lynourealexicon: haa, I think I found one10:09
alexiconxine-lib?10:09
alexicon:D10:09
alexiconyeah alias that ps command, its my best friend10:10
alexicon<310:10
||Trayre||nothing under xine lib = \10:10
alexiconok what are you trying to install trayre?10:10
alexiconyou want to get juk working right10:10
alexiconsomething like that10:10
alexiconohhh yesh10:10
||Trayre||yeah10:10
alexiconthose libxine-extracodecs10:10
alexiconhrmmmm10:11
intelikeysudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:11
Lynourealexicon: killed a sneaky looking konqueror pointing at it, now get a different error...10:11
alexiconheh10:11
alexiconwhats it saying now10:11
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alexicontrayer close down adept for a bit and try this: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs10:12
alexiconwhats your error?10:12
Lynourealexicon: "Cannot talk to klauncher"10:12
alexiconerm10:13
alexiconwhats that error for10:13
alexiconumount?10:13
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alexiconyeah10:13
alexiconget rid of X10:13
Lynourealexicon: no joy from umount as root either10:13
alexiconget rid of X first10:13
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Lynourealexicon, intelikey: brb10:14
alexiconyeah loo break lol10:14
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Lynourethank god/something for screen on a remote server10:15
intelikeydrop to a console and do a   sudo killall kdm && sudo eject /dev/sda1 && sudo kdm   unplug while it's ejected....10:15
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intelikeymmmm eject might error out even though it umounts.  cause it can't open the tray... idk.10:16
intelikeybut eject seems to be a more powerful umount.10:17
Lynoureintelikey: was no need to, normal sudo umount was a charm after I left the x session10:17
intelikeyk10:18
alexiconkk10:18
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intelikeyso i win the bet....  shame no one took me up on it.10:18
alexiconlol Lynoure10:18
Lynoureintelikey, alexicon: thanks for both of you. I hope this will not happen again or that next time I'll figure out what's the culprit10:18
alexiconX usually is ;D10:19
alexiconglad your data is safe :)10:19
alexiconpoor kid didnt get his libxines :P10:19
alexiconheh10:19
intelikeyoh krap!  i have to kill this dialup connection.  the installer wants to dl 39 hours worth of updates10:19
alexiconlol10:19
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Lynourealexicon: GUI - can't live with it, can't live without it. I guess removing automounting usb things might help.10:19
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GameZMember327'10:20
alexiconim not used to the whole *ubuntu way Lynoure still confuses me too10:20
alexiconeverything seemed so much more straightforward and killable in gentoo lol10:20
Lynourealexicon: To exeggarate just a bit, I find myself missing my debian unstable so much I could cry, occasionally =)10:21
alexiconhaha10:21
alexiconyeah10:21
alexiconwell its either this or windows for me this summer10:21
alexiconso...10:21
alexiconlol10:21
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Lynourealexicon: At least with sid the answer to "why does it do this weird thing" was usually "ecause you made it to, silly"10:21
alexiconi was happy with knoppix lol10:21
Lynoures/ecause/because10:22
alexicon:)10:22
alexiconoverall ive been really impressed with kubuntu10:22
alexiconits got a lot more automation than my gentoo does10:22
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alexiconwith regards to all this plug and play stuff10:22
alexiconim so used to having to dmesg and manually handle all the devices anyway :P10:22
alexiconeveryday im like wow! my mp3 player is in and even amarok wants to talk to it lol10:23
Lynourealexicon: heh. :) I'll gotta dash now. Some silly reporter wanting to visit here in 2,5 hours and I want to pretend I'm deeply involved in my other hobby at that time...10:24
alexiconhaha10:24
alexicongl with that! tc!10:24
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intelike1how will i get this thing to boot after installing on the boot drive (sda)   and it will install grub on hda  ????   i cant use grub, it's too weak.   so i'll have to install lilo now. i guess !10:28
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Ashexanyone have synergy running in 64-bit?10:35
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everthello all , i'm having a little problem. Who can help me with it ?10:37
abattoirevert: what is your problem?10:37
evertI really need some space from my 'linux' hard disk , for other usage , but it has to be in NTFS10:37
evertwhat's the easyest way to make the ext3 partition smaller and make a new ntfs partition ?10:38
Ashexqparted10:38
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Ashexbut don't change the start points of the ext3 and swap partition10:38
Ashexif you do, all hell breaks loose10:39
evertbut when i try to use qparted , i can't do a thing becuase the ext3 partition is currently in use10:39
Ashexboot off the live cd10:39
abattoirevert: but you must also realise shrinking an ext3 partition is not a reliable proces.. it would be wise to backup important data10:39
abattoir*process10:40
evertok10:40
evertis there a high risk of failing ?10:40
abattoirif qtparted doesnt work, you can try resize2fs10:40
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evertbecause there is quite a lot of important data on it10:40
abattoirwhich is what (i think) qtparted uses, anyway...10:41
evertok10:41
everti'll try to boot from the installer cd and resize it then10:41
abattoirevert: man resize2fs might shed some light10:42
everthopefully i don't loose my grub , then i'm f*cked10:42
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abattoir>>10:42
abattoirIf  you wish to shrink an ext2 partition, first use resize2fs to shrink the size of filesystem.  Then10:42
abattoir       you may use fdisk(8) to shrink the size of the partition.  When shrinking the size of the  partition,10:42
abattoir       make sure you do not make it smaller than the new size of the ext2 filesystem!10:42
abattoirsorry for the flood10:42
abattoirbut that's what man resize2fs says about shrinking10:43
evertok10:43
everti'm going to try it then :)10:43
abattoirevert: i'd again advise you to backup important stuff10:43
Ashex:O10:43
abattoirbetter safe than sorry :)10:43
intelikeymke2fs /dev/hda      :)10:44
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evertgoing to backup it first :)10:45
ajay!flah10:45
ubotuI know nothing about flah - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:45
ajay!flash10:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:45
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intelikeyoh a flasher huh10:46
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fabidhello10:47
intelikeywhere does buntu store it's repos databases  ?10:47
alexiconintelikey: /etc/apt/sources.list10:48
abattoirpackages.ubuntu.com?10:48
alexiconoh10:48
alexiconsorry10:48
alexiconlol10:48
intelikeywhen you do  apt-get update   where does it write ?10:48
intelikeyi know that's vague questioning     sorry ?10:49
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fabid_ var/cache/apt/archives10:49
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krautmoin10:50
intelikeyis it /var/cache/apt/something ?10:50
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intelikeyno not archives.10:51
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone10:51
intelikeymaybe pre-archives.10:51
MilhousePunkRockHey intelikey10:51
intelikeyhey MilhousePunkRock10:51
fabid_yes intelijey....it's /var/cache/apt/archives directory where it put all .deb files after executing apt-get update command10:51
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MilhousePunkRockIt only took another 3 hours to get WPA working yesterday...10:51
abattoirpkgcache.bin ?10:51
intelikeyno it's not fadid10:52
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MilhousePunkRockThe & was a no-go in the PSK10:52
intelikeyfabid that's where the packages are dl'd too  that's not where the databases are dl'd too10:52
MilhousePunkRockBut now I am not automatically connected to the wireless net when I boot, I have to do "sudo ifdown ath0 && sudo ifup ath0" to get connected10:53
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intelikeyabattoir: maybe.   if so it's a db full of db's10:54
ajayi cannot download edgy cd10:54
ajaydownload speed too low10:54
fabid_hmmm so where does it stores the database after apt-get update? in /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin?10:55
MilhousePunkRockedgy is not yet a stable release, is it?10:55
abattoirnope10:56
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intelikeyMilhousePunkRock: anything you can do on the command line you can do in a script and some things you cant do on the cli...10:56
intelikeyso add the commands to an init script10:56
MilhousePunkRockwell, with WEP i was connected on start-up10:57
intelikey/etc/rc.local  would be a good place.10:57
MilhousePunkRockauto ath0 (or something alike) is in the etc/network/interfaces already10:57
intelikeyjust add the  ifdown and ifup commands you said you use,  to rc.local10:58
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MilhousePunkRockDo they require sudo anyway?10:59
intelikeynot in init script10:59
intelikeys10:59
intelikeyinit is higher than root10:59
MilhousePunkRockis rc.local already there?11:00
intelikeyinit is kernel level authority.     yes it's there  /etc/rc.local11:00
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ricardohi everybody....11:01
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MilhousePunkRockIt was empty so far, I added "ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0"11:01
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intelikeyyup11:02
intelikeyyou may want to preceed that with a path string.11:02
intelikeymilhouse.....11:02
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ricardodoes anynobdy know how to load applications that requiere root priviliedges automatically at startup, without asking root permission(im thinking of firestarter)11:03
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intelikeyMilhousePunkRock you may need to preceed that with a path string  i.e. PATH='/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin'11:05
intelikeyricardo: put the commands in /etc/rc.local11:05
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ricardointelikey: what do I have to add?11:06
ajayhow can i install kaffeine plugin ffor firefox?11:07
intelikeywhat ever you want to run11:07
intelikeypreceed with a path string or use absolute paths11:07
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intelikeyMilhousePunkRock you may need to preceed that with a path string  i.e. PATH='/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin'11:07
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock: you missed that   ^11:07
intelikeyso did you get lucky ?11:08
dillingerajay: install it with adept11:08
MilhousePunkRockwell, it is working already11:08
ajaydillinger: install what11:08
ajaywhich pkg11:08
MilhousePunkRockprobably not the best method since it slows down the boot process a little11:08
ricardointelikey: so..I just have to add a line that says "firestater"...and thats it?11:08
MilhousePunkRockbut it's sufficient so far11:09
dillingerajay: the package's name is kaffeine-mozilla11:09
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock: i didn't know if the commands would be found or not...   better to always use absolute paths in init scripts11:09
MilhousePunkRockI wonder why it's still loading the wifi-radar demon although I uninstalled it11:09
intelikeyricardo: if you start it with   sudo firestarter      then in the init script   put  firestarter         yes.11:09
MilhousePunkRockWhat's the equivalent to Windows' "sytem.ini" on Linux?11:10
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intelikeyMilhousePunkRock: check the /etc/rcS.d/   for a symlink to that.    anything you don't want to start  can be removed from /etc/rcS.d/    or /etc/rc2.d/      the  'buntu way is with update-rc.d    but i do it by hand.11:11
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock: there isn't really an EQ on that.11:12
MilhousePunkRockso if i run update-rc.d it prompts me what to start and what not?11:13
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intelikeyMilhousePunkRock: the links in /etc/rc[S,2] .d   are ran every boot.    that's init's play ground.11:13
intelikeyif you just run update-rc.d  it offers help.11:14
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intelikeyalso the links in /etc/rc[1,6] .d/ are ran every shutdown/reboot respectively11:15
intelikeyerrr [0,6] 11:16
MilhousePunkRockThat's too cryptic for me....11:17
intelikeyok.11:18
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MilhousePunkRockOk, I located the /rc* folders11:21
MilhousePunkRockFor example there is a S20wifi-radar script in it11:21
MilhousePunkRockTo get rid of it at boot, I just delete it?11:21
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MilhousePunkRockHello h3sp4wn!11:24
h3sp4wnMilhousePunkRock: Hi11:25
h3sp4wnMilhousePunkRock: Wireless working ok11:25
MilhousePunkRockKind of... I even changed the key to a "real" one11:26
MilhousePunkRockit wont connect me on boot unless I run ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0 though11:26
h3sp4wnTry adding pre-up sleep 5 (to the bottm11:27
h3sp4wnTry adding pre-up sleep 5 (to the bottom of the section in /etc/network/interfaces)11:27
h3sp4wn'pre-up sleep 5'11:27
h3sp4wn(It makes it wait 5 seconds for the wpa authentication to work before lauching dhcp)11:28
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MilhousePunkRockOk, thx, h3sp4wn...11:29
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MilhousePunkRockIf it works with 5, can I try to shorten that time subsequently?11:29
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h3sp4wnMilhousePunkRock: Yes - I wouldn't make it too short (to make it intermittant)11:31
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MilhousePunkRockTrying it with 5 now... BRB, reboot11:32
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h3sp4wnMilhousePunkRock: It is a known bug with dhclient311:32
MilhousePunkRockYeah, I read that... I am considering turning off DHCP anyway11:32
MilhousePunkRockMy router is assigning different IPs than it used to do, so my port forwarding settings don't work...11:33
MilhousePunkRockThe User Guide mentions bindind IPs and MACs, but that function is not there in the configuration panel11:33
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Ashexanyone happen to understand this error:11:35
Ashexlibglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed11:35
Ashex?11:35
abattoirAshex: i think it depends *only* on the packge11:35
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abattoir= rather thatn >=11:36
abattoir*than11:36
Ashexthat makes little sense11:36
Ashexthe only package in the repository is libglib2.0-011:36
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Ashexwhich is installed11:37
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abattoirdapper?11:37
Ashexi want to install the dev for it so i can compile crap11:37
Ashexyep11:37
Ashex64-bit to be exact11:37
abattoir!info libglib211:37
ubotuPackage libglib2 does not exist in dapper11:37
AshexO.o11:37
abattoir!info libglib2.011:37
ubotuPackage libglib2.0 does not exist in dapper11:37
abattoir!info libglib2.0-011:37
ubotulibglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 468 kB, installed size 1020 kB11:37
Ashexokay...11:37
abattoir!info libglib2.0-dev11:38
ubotulibglib2.0-dev: Development files for the GLib library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 485 kB, installed size 1948 kB11:38
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Ashexah ha!11:40
Ashexwhen in doubt11:41
Ashexuse adept11:41
abattoirAshex: doesnt look right..11:41
abattoirAshex: what does adept say?11:41
abattoiroh, there is a2.10....11:41
abattoir2 10 2 1 that is11:42
Ashexyeah, it's a little weird11:42
Ashexbleh, now to grab another package11:42
Ashexone of the perks of 64-bit, lots of compiling11:42
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abattoirweird... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=dapper&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=libglib2.0-0&searchon=names11:44
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Ashexthat is weird11:44
abattoirwhere does ubotu get this from?11:45
abattoir!info libglib2.0-011:45
ubotulibglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 468 kB, installed size 1020 kB11:45
ironfroggyin the alternative installer, isnt there supposed to be an option to use reiserfs instead of ext3?11:45
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abattoirironfroggy: there is11:45
Ashex!ubotu11:46
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:46
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ironfroggyits nicely hidden11:46
MilhousePunkRockThat worked fine, h3sp4wn, I even lowered it to 1 now and it still works...11:46
abattoirironfroggy: heh, :)11:47
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ironfroggyabattoir: you have to hit cancel on on confirming the partitions, and then select a line in the overview text. thats obscure.11:47
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abattoiriirc, when you choose a partition, and then 'yes, format it' you get to choose the partition type too11:48
abattoiralong w/ the mountpoint etc.11:48
ironfroggyit never asked me.11:48
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ironfroggyi say "yes" and it will just go straight into the defaults and start partitioning and formatting.11:48
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abattoiryou mean, after you select 'manual partitioning' and then select an individual partition?11:49
ironfroggy"manual partitioning" isnt clear that it includes filesystem configuration. partitions are not filesystems :-)11:50
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aliasfredq. does the apt source list support something like /etc/apt/sources.d/[list of file]  with each of the file in the list contains repository description ?11:50
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abattoirironfroggy: well, we could keep arguing about it, but wouldnt you need a partition first to have a file system on it? :P11:52
abattoirso isnt 'partitioning' the main step?11:52
Ashexwell, looks like i've run into  a wall of errors i can't penetrate11:52
abattoiryou choose which partitions you want to format... then the file system :)11:52
Ashex!tell me about pastebin11:52
aegeanlinux!pastebin11:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:53
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Ashexthink you can penetrate the errors?11:54
Ashexhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1850711:54
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abattoirit *could* be a problem w/ splashy itself11:56
abattoirno debs available?11:56
Ashexthey're 32-bit11:56
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ironfroggywhy does eclipse require that i install pretty much all of gnome, and mozilla-browser even tho i have firefox?11:58
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Ashexbah12:02
Ashexi'm calling it a night12:02
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D4m4gehello12:02
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PupenoIf I build and install linux 2.6.17 I'll need to rebuild fglrx and restricted modules, right ?12:17
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larry123hi, how to add a command to the init sequence before GDM comes up ?12:20
larry123thanks12:20
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arsowhen i play videos using any player12:25
arsothe quality doesnt come out that good12:25
arsoits WAY better on windows12:25
arsowith the same files12:25
Pupenoarso: what kind of videos ?12:25
Pupenoarso: that is, what type/format ?12:25
arsotv series, movies12:25
arsoavi12:25
arso.bin12:25
arsopretty much ANY video12:26
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Pupenoarso: run xine-check in a konsole and watch out for possible problems in your system.12:26
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arsook12:29
arsothnx12:30
arsoxine-check12:30
arsobash: xine-check: command not found12:30
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grand-sch.12:31
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grand-schhi12:31
grand-schbonjour12:31
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grand-schcan someone tell me where i can find help in french or deutch ?12:35
grand-schi can try to ask my question in english but it will be i very bad language12:35
grand-schanybody able (ready) to read me ?12:35
markcsure, what is oyur problem ?12:36
markcyour12:36
grand-schoki.12:36
grand-schi have a laptop (oldy) : compaq presario12:36
grand-schthe problems are :12:36
grand-sch1. i only have 64M of memory12:36
grand-sch2. when the installer atempt to reach to harddisk, it stops the installation (hanging)12:37
arsoPupeno:  u therere?12:37
rpedro_!fr12:37
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:37
rpedro_!de12:37
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:37
grand-schcan i get a version who can run with 64 M ?12:37
Pupenoarso: yes, but a bit busy.12:37
grand-schmerci ubotu12:37
arsoPupeno:  xine-check doesnt work :(12:37
arsowrong command12:37
markcgrand-sch> are you using the livecd or the installation CD ?12:38
Pupenoarso: you have to install it if you don't have it.12:38
markcPupeno> what package is it in ?12:38
grand-schmarkc> yes kubuntu 6.0612:38
arsoPupeno:  i do12:38
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arsoi'll check in adept Pupeno12:38
Pupenoarso: what do you mean ?12:38
arsomaybe i forgot to instal it12:38
markcPupeno> but the liveCD or the installation CD ? ... the liveCD requires at least 128 mb of ram12:38
rpedro_grand-sch: with 64MB ram , you should be running the alternate cd installer12:39
markcapt-cache search xine-check returns nothing12:39
Pupenomarkc: what are you talking about ?12:39
rpedro_grand-sch: minimum for desktop cd is 256MB, I believe12:39
Pupenoarso: ok.12:39
markcPupeno> sorry, wrong person12:39
arsoPupeno:  there are so many i have 4 installed, which is the main one ?12:39
grand-schrpedro_> where can i catch the alternate cd installer ?12:40
rpedro_grand-sch: cdimage.ubuntu.com12:40
Pupenoarso:12:41
Pupenopupeno@plab:~$ apt-file search xine-check12:41
Pupenoxine-ui: usr/bin/xine-check12:41
arsook installing that now12:41
grand-schrpedro_> oki, i suppose i have to download it and put it on a cd12:41
rpedro_grand-sch: and with that much ram , I suggest you try the xubuntu distro12:41
Pupenosorry, I don't know if adept can do such a search.12:41
rpedro_grand-sch: KDE is somewhat memory hungry, so is Gnome12:41
arsoPupeno:  i am installing "xine-ui" now, it wasnt installed12:42
Pupenoarso: ok.12:42
rpedro_grand-sch: what OS are you running now ?12:42
arsosimply installing that, fixes xine on all media apps?12:42
grand-schrpedro_> kde or gnome : both are convienent : wich one is better for the memory usage ? i suppose gnome ?12:43
Pupenoarso: no, running xine-check may find some problem in your system (like disabled DMA) that might show why you have a poor performance in all players.12:43
arsoi see12:43
Pupenoarso: it is just one guess, it may not be a good guess, but I start there to solve any video-related problems and most of the time I succed.12:43
rpedro_grand-sch: probably, though really not much difference12:43
arsoPupeno:   i see, thnx,12:43
markcgrand-sch> consider using something like fluxbox for a desktop system12:44
arsoPupeno:  i 'll do a xine check after installation finishes12:44
Pupenook.12:44
rpedro_grand-sch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto <- instructions for burning an iso to cd12:44
grand-schmarkc> oups ? didn't understand12:45
grand-schrpedro> thx12:45
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markcit's a pity that howto does not include console/shell instructions12:45
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markcgrand-sch> fluxbox is a small window manager ... if you really only need to run firefox and thunderbord then you only need a light window manager, you do not need Gnome or KDE for gui apps12:46
grand-schmarkc>oki a also have the intention to use open office and a (simple) chat program, eventualy a html editor en a ftp client12:47
markcgrand-sch> for instance, get the alternate installation CD, install a shell based system then only install xorg. fluxbox and the actual GUI apps you need12:48
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markcgrand-sch> openoffice in 64mb of ram will be a challenge... all the more reason not to run Gnome or KDE as well12:49
scheurihi all12:49
markchttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox?highlight=%28fluxbox%2912:49
grand-schmarkc> thx for links12:50
markcgrand-sch> nedit is a great GUI editor that does not depend on Gnome or KDE12:50
grand-schrpedro> when i go to cdimage.ubuntu.com i arrive to bazaar ... i don't immediatly see how to download the alternative12:50
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rpedrogrand-sch: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/  , this links to the xubuntu isos12:52
markcgrand-sch>  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-1/ <- could be interesting12:52
rpedromarkc: don't suggest edgy, it's still pretty much broken I think12:53
markcrpedro> a better option than trying to upgrade from dapper though12:53
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rpedromarkc: you need edgy to install fluxbox on Ubuntu ?12:54
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markcrpedro> in my case I need a later kernel, yes... upgrading a kernel on dapper does not work12:55
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markcrpedro> if anyone happens to need a later kernel for more uptodate drivers then it MAY be better to start from a recent edgy install12:56
arsoPupeno: no xine-config on this machine12:56
arsoPupeno:  i cant find "xine-config" in adept :(,,12:56
rpedromarkc: ok then12:57
arsoPupeno:  that was "ouch" in xine0-check, rest is fine12:57
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grand-schrpedro> markc> conclusion : i will burn a cd with edgy and try a new installation run12:59
arsoi need to isntall xine-config, however i cant find it in adept, anyone?12:59
grand-schrpedro> markc> conclusion 2 : thx for your help and comments12:59
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grand-schnow my second problem !01:00
arsohelp anyonme please01:01
grand-schthe harddisk is EMPTY ! i suppose so. What do i have to do to prepare the harddisk  as best as possible for an ubuntu installation ?01:01
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rpedrogrand-sch: how big is the harddisk ?01:01
grand-sch2 G01:01
grand-schlol01:01
rpedroah01:02
grand-schhow small is it !01:02
rpedrook, another reason not to install a full ubuntu system01:02
grand-schyess01:02
rpedrogrand-sch: I would just create a swap partition of about 200MB01:03
markcgrand-sch> very small, I'd say allocate 1.9gb fro the main root partition and only allocate 150mb for a swap partition01:03
rpedrogrand-sch: and one big partition for root01:03
markcrpedro> sorry, I'll stay out of it01:03
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rpedromarkc: it's ok...01:03
grand-schhow can i check is the hd is reachable ? for the memory i can run a memory-test, but i don't know how to check the hd01:04
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markcgrand-sch> from a shell their is program called "badblocks" that does a low level check01:05
grand-schmarkc> oki, how can i go to the shell ?01:05
grand-schi am a big newbie isn't it ?01:06
markcgrand-sch> where are you know ? is this harddrive on the computer you are currently using ?01:06
grand-sch(;-)01:06
grand-schnow i am on a second laptop01:06
grand-schthe laptop i want to use to install ubuntu a near me. a can't do nothing with it because it is empty01:07
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markcgrand-sch> then when you boot up on that alternate installation CD you will get to a shell (I think, never used it) and at that point you can start to use some tools to investigate your hardware01:08
PylonHi, I have a short question: Is there any good reason, why the hostname must be at least three characters long in the graphical installation mode?01:08
markcgrand-sch> ls -l /dev/hd*  <- will provide the main clue as to where your hardrive is01:08
markcgrand-sch> you will probably have a /dev/hda 2Gb IDE drive so you could use badblocks /dev/hda to check it out and cfdisk /dev/hda to partition it01:09
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grand-schmarkc>oki, i also have to use that alternate box. I will first start with taht job and will be back after that.01:10
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grand-schmarkc> so recapitulation : 1. burn a cd with  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-101:11
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markcgrand-sch> the installation procedure may help you all the way through the installation process, however, if you get stuch you can usually go to an alternate shell via crtl-alt-f2 and run manual commands from that shell01:11
markcget stuck01:12
grand-schmarkc> 2. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto01:12
grand-sch3. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox?highlight=%28fluxbox%2901:13
grand-sch4. look at my harddisk01:13
grand-schmarkc>5. come back here ! lol01:13
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markcgrand-sch> yes :) once you have booted up into the installation CD on the laptop then we can help you some more01:14
grand-schgreat ! thx for tips. read you later ...01:15
markcgrand-sch> 'k, good luck01:15
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ubuntu___Hi, i'm trying to install kubuntu from the CD and i ran qtparted and when i click on the disk it says Critical error during ped_disk_new!01:17
ubuntu___what should i do? is the old installer that was in 5.10 on this disk? that worked well01:18
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ubuntu__ok i'm back, so any help, i can't partition the disk with the installer either01:20
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Pylonubuntu__: Did you partitioned it already?  So probably you need to reboot, so that your BIOS knows the new layout.01:21
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ubuntu__Well i'm doing a total reinstall of everything, i just installed windows and now its kubuntu01:22
ubuntu__it isn't partitioned yet, kubuntu has to do that01:23
ubuntu__kubuntu and windows are on different hard drives,01:23
ubuntu__oh no wait they are on the same drive but i also have another drive01:24
ubuntu__i bet your all confused now01:24
ubuntu__well i installed windows, 15mb for a boot partition for windows where boot.ini is and stuff, then i want kubuntu (which i'm doing now)01:25
ubuntu__i want kubuntu on xfs and so i need a /boot partition, /swap /home and a /01:26
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ubuntu__but i already have a space for /home on the second drive which is 10gb and that is to be just formatted01:26
ubuntu__and i think thats everything01:26
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arsodo different distro's have different commands and stufF?01:27
ubuntu__so HDA: 15mb (windows for boot thing) 49gb (kubuntu root) 28gb for windows and 500mb for swap01:27
arsoi still dont know wat the difference is between distros01:28
grand-sch!nl01:28
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl01:28
markcarso> not much, it's still "linux"01:28
arsomarkc:  so then wat are the differences between 2 distros using the same desktop environment01:29
ubuntu__and HDB: /mnt/archive 180GB and the rest for /home01:29
ubuntu__Thats how i want it01:30
markcarso> not much, 99% on the surface will be the same... depends if it's a redhat based system or debian (or gentoo) as to the package system01:30
ubuntu__:(01:31
ubuntu__is there an updated installer i could use without the bugs?01:32
ubuntu__or is the old installer on the disk?01:32
markcubuntu__> what are you using now ?01:33
ubuntu__the install CD, i'm using konversation01:33
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markcubuntu__> dapper 6.06 liveCD for PC ?01:33
ubuntu__dapper 6.06 Desktop CD01:34
markcubuntu__> I did a couple of installs last night using nothing but the installer, worked okay for me01:34
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ubuntu__did you partition the disk manually? tried xfs?01:35
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BKaj'Morning all01:35
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markcubuntu__> yes and no, I did twiddle with the disk first but no, I used ext301:35
ubuntu__ok thanks, i'll install from dapper flight 6, that had the old installer i think, thats what i used before01:36
arsoBKaj:  hey,g'morning01:36
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markcubuntu__> if I were you I'd try a standard ext3 install first and let the installer do what it wants. make sure you can boot on it, then try the cd install again for xfs01:37
DjDarkmanhy ,I have serious performance problems ,and I don`t know what`s causing it ,can someone help me find out what`s the problem?01:37
arsocan anyone help me out, video quality is shitty, its way bbeetter on windows, for the same files.01:38
arsoi did a xine-check, everything turned out fine01:38
DjDarkmanarso: why don`t you try mplayer instead?01:38
BKajhi arso01:38
arsoDjDarkman:  i tried mplayer too, same thing01:38
markcubuntu__> I'm not sure why you need the initial 15mb partition... if you allow 30gb for windows on hda1 as a primary partition, then start the linux partitions at hda5 (logical) then you can have more than 4 partitions01:38
arsoBKaj:  hello01:38
DjDarkmanso can anynone help me track the problem of the performance loss of my system?01:40
arsohey mplayer fullscreen is coming windowed, how can i have unwindowed full01:40
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markcubuntu__> I let the 6.06 installer resize an XP partiton on a new laptop and it worked! .. dual boot an all01:40
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BKajMplayer does a nice job on this old CRT Monitor-Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 7301:40
arsook fixed that01:41
arsoit has its own engine right? not xine01:41
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DjDarkmanarso: mplayer has nothing in common with xine01:41
BKajyeah markc, check the sizes of the partitions01:41
arsohmm how do i move the seekbar01:41
arsoDjDarkman:  i see, thats good01:41
DjDarkmanarso: are you using mplayer or gmplayer?01:41
arsomplayer01:42
BKajit's actually kmplayer id yer using KDE01:42
arsoand i have kmplayer too01:42
markcubuntu__> ah no, I manually used cfdisk to force linux onto hda5 because I wanted a few extra partitons for testing01:42
BKajif01:42
arsoBKaj:  i have both01:42
arsono idea why :P01:42
BKajyeah, most do arso01:42
DjDarkmanBKaj: do you know why isn`t kmplayer functioning as mplayer?01:43
BKajhda5 whew01:43
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BKajthe kde desktop version of mplayer IS kmplayer. they're the same01:44
DjDarkmanBKaj: but the hotkeyes and other stuff aren`t working01:44
arsoBKaj:  when i try to open any file with kmplayer i get "xine not running" ?01:44
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arsobut the same files work fine with Mplayer01:44
BKajoh no sorry ..wrong again , Mplayer is different01:45
DjDarkmanarso: use gmplayer01:45
arsolol01:45
arsokmplayer uses xine ?01:45
DjDarkmanarso: I dunno ,kmplayer isn`t the same as mplayer01:46
arsoBKaj:  wats the difference from Mplayer?01:46
arsogmplayer vs mplayer01:46
DjDarkmanarso: gmplayer is mplayer with gui :)01:46
arsoi see01:46
DjDarkmanthat`s why it`s called gmplayer01:46
DjDarkmanbut kmplayer is something else01:46
arsoso should i uninstal kmplayer and mplayer? will they slow my pc down?01:47
markcarso> I sometimes prefer mplayer started from a shell because it spews out lots of info about the hardware and audio video codecs used which can be useful to diagnose problems01:47
DjDarkmanarso: no way01:47
arsok good01:47
DjDarkmanarso: don`t uninstall anyithing01:47
arsobtw, i cant find gmplayer on adept01:47
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arsois it for gnome or something?01:47
BKajanyway mplayersorry guys , I never did get kmplayer to work, but it is on the repos and mplayer is available thru automatix01:48
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markcarso> so is kaffeine not working for you ?01:48
arsoit is01:48
DjDarkmanarso: did you enable some repositories?01:48
BKajkmplayer is on synaptic , mplayer is on automatix01:48
markcarso> perhaps your video hardware is not accelarated and that may be the reason for poor results01:49
arsothose universal and multiverse or something?01:49
arsoBKaj:  are those like adept?01:49
DjDarkmanBKaj: mplayer is on some backports or somewhere01:49
arsomarkc:  how can i check if its accelerated or not?01:49
arsomarkc:  i have an ati btw01:49
DjDarkmanarso: do you have ati drivers installed?01:49
BKajihave mplayer installed thru automatix01:50
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arsoDjDarkman:  yes01:50
markcarso> oh, I use nvidia, I'm sure if you search the forums you'll find ati/dri howto instructions01:50
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arsoBKaj:  how about gmplayer, do u have that installed?01:50
arsomarkc:  i already instaled them01:50
BKajfirst , arso see if the synaptic package manager is listed in your adept pkg manager01:50
arsook01:51
BKajno arso01:51
arsoif not, instal it?01:51
DjDarkmanarso: you have to edit your repositories trhu adept or what you like01:51
arsoedit them to wat01:51
DjDarkmanarso: wait I`ll show you mine01:51
DjDarkmanare you using dapper arso?01:51
arsoi think so01:52
arsolatest kubuntu a month a go01:52
BKajonce you have synaptic installed  , automatix may be listed if you have akk the repos listed and enabled01:52
BKajall01:52
DjDarkmanBKaj: he can do it without automatix01:52
arsoinstalling synaptic now01:52
arsowats uatomatix01:52
arsoautomatix*01:52
DjDarkmanarso: automatix is a script01:53
BKajwell dj01:53
DjDarkmanthat installes a lot of popular apps01:53
arsooh01:53
arsois that recommended? doesnt it overload ur system?01:53
BKajDjDarkman: if he wants mplayer , that's all I can think of01:54
DjDarkmanBKaj: all he has to do is to edit the sourceesl.list01:54
BKajyou can pick and choose01:54
DjDarkmannow arso open a terminal and type what i say01:54
arsookay01:54
arsou know wat ur doing right :P ?01:54
BKajyes DjDarkman , that's what I did01:54
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DjDarkmanarso: I have gmplayer installed right? ;)01:55
arsohehe okay then01:55
arsoumm adept is instaling synaptic now01:55
omeowDoes anyone know what the reason might be for my vfat partition to be mounted as rw and after a while going into read only mode?01:55
arsoshouldi cancel that? or just let it end01:55
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DjDarkmanarso: wait for it to finish01:56
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BKajby all means install synaptic01:56
arsookay then01:56
DjDarkmansynaptic is a good package maneger01:56
arso60%01:56
BKajprefer it to adept01:56
DjDarkmanyep it`s faster then adept for me01:57
arsohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213026      ati drivers/support are gay on linux :S01:57
markcarso> to check for accellerated video, in a shell type -> glxinfo | grep direct01:57
arsook synaptic is installed01:57
DjDarkmanarso: that`s ati`s fauld ,nvidia drivers work just fine ,but I have a friend that uses ati on kubuntu and he managed to install it`s driver01:58
arsoXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".01:58
arsodirect rendering: No01:58
arsoOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect01:58
DjDarkmanuhhh that`s not good01:58
arsooh01:58
DjDarkmanarso: what type of ati do you have?01:58
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markcarso> that is where your video problem lies, it should say "yes"01:58
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arsoumm i have  ati radeon series 200   256mb01:59
arsoits about 2months old     onboard an intel mboard01:59
arsointegrated01:59
markcarso> once you fix your video problem then it won't matter which video player you use, they will all do full screen etc01:59
arsoi see02:00
arsobtw fullscreen worked now, just bad quality02:00
arsoso how can we fix the video problem, is it possible?02:00
DjDarkmanati drivers are just irritating02:00
markcarso> type -> lspci | grep VGA02:00
thykoapt-get --purge xx gives me error '"E: Invalid operation purge02:00
thyko"02:00
thykowhy?02:00
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markc apt-get --purge remove02:00
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thykoahaaa!02:01
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thykomarkc: thanks02:01
markcarso> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-145068-p-5.html02:02
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BKajhe has the driver as most ati cards i bet flrgx02:02
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dillingerwow02:03
markcsplit us asunder oh great one!02:03
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DjDarkmanarso: you here?02:04
DarkWizzardhello all02:04
dillingerhello02:04
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arsoso sorry02:05
arsoback02:05
DjDarkmanDarkWizzard: arso has same "no direct rendering" problem with an ati card02:05
DarkWizzardhy02:05
BKajarso has the same video setup as me and has the driver like most ati cards i bet, fglrx !02:05
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DarkWizzardwhat kind of ati card ?02:05
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arsoumm ati radeon series 20002:06
markcarso> type -> lspci | grep VGA02:06
DarkWizzardaha02:06
DarkWizzardok02:06
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DarkWizzardlook02:06
DarkWizzarddo you have xorg-driver-fglrx installed ?02:06
arsocclspci | grep VGA02:06
markcarso> and have a look at this thread -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-145068-p-5.html02:06
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arsook checking the thread02:06
DarkWizzardarso:02:06
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DarkWizzardlisten to me02:06
arso0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a602:06
DarkWizzardHad same problem02:06
arsooh02:06
arsook ,  iam listening02:06
DarkWizzardso you need to replace02:07
DarkWizzardlibGL.so.1.202:07
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DarkWizzardin /usr/lib02:07
arsojust tell me the steps pleaes :D02:07
DarkWizzardand /usr/lib/fglrx02:07
DjDarkmanDarkWizzard: tell him the exact comands02:07
DjDarkmanstep by step02:07
DarkWizzardwith the previouse one02:07
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BKajDarkWizzard: its likely the very same as my ati card TI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series] 02:08
arsoyes please02:08
arsothat would be great02:08
DarkWizzardarso:02:08
arsoyes02:08
DarkWizzardsudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx02:08
arsoxorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.02:08
arso0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.02:08
DarkWizzardok02:08
DarkWizzardsudo aticonfig --initial02:08
arsoits there it seems02:08
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DarkWizzardaticonfig --overlay-type=Xv02:09
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arsof02:09
arsoound fglrx primary device section02:09
arsoNothing to do, terminating02:09
DarkWizzardand now02:09
DarkWizzardok02:09
DarkWizzardcd /usr/lib02:09
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DarkWizzardsudo cd /usr/lib02:09
DarkWizzardsudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so1.2.old02:09
arsook02:09
DarkWizzardsudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.202:10
DarkWizzardafter that02:10
DarkWizzardcd /usr/lib/fglrx02:10
DarkWizzardi mean02:10
DarkWizzardsudo cd /usr/lib/fglrx02:10
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DarkWizzardsudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old02:10
DarkWizzardand sudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.202:10
DarkWizzardafter that reboot02:10
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DarkWizzardand it should work02:10
DarkWizzardif not read this02:11
DarkWizzardhttp://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/index.php?link=1302:11
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markcDarkWizzard> excellent, assuming that works it should be a recipe on the wiki !02:11
arsosudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old02:11
DjDarkmanDarkWizzard: I think he needs to restart x ,no?02:11
arsooops02:11
arsomv: cannot stat `libGL.so.1.2': No such file or directory02:12
DarkWizzardare you in /usr/lib ?02:12
markcpwd02:12
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DarkWizzardsudo cd /usr/lib02:12
arso fgrx02:12
DjDarkmanarso: he ment to type it in the terminal :)02:12
Kano_Kubuntuhi, whats the purpose of02:12
arsoya02:12
Kano_Kubuntulrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw02:12
BKajI think his driver already was the fglrx02:12
DarkWizzardarso in what folder are you ?02:12
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markcarso> type pwd02:13
Pupenoanyone with a thinkpad t60 ?02:13
arsosudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old02:13
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BKajyeah my daughter, but she's not here, sorry02:14
arsoDarkWizzard:  somethings wrong .. keep getting sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old02:14
DarkWizzardlook02:14
DarkWizzardcd /usr/lib/fglrx02:14
DarkWizzardand try this02:14
DarkWizzardsudo cp libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old02:14
DarkWizzardand sudo rm -rf libGL.so.1.202:15
arsocp: cannot stat `libGL.so.1.2': No such file or directory02:15
DarkWizzardhmmmmmmm02:15
DjDarkmanDarkWizzard: I think the move operation was successfull02:15
DjDarkmanthen02:15
markctype ls -l libGL* and see what is there02:15
DarkWizzardls /usr/lib |grep libGL02:15
arsoso libGL isnt there?02:15
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rpedroarso: problems with direct rendering ?02:15
DarkWizzardarso: move on to the next step then02:16
arsolibGL.so.102:16
arsolibGL.so1.2.old02:16
arsolibGLU.so.102:16
arsolibGLU.so.1.3.06040102:16
markcrpedro> yes, with an ati card02:16
DarkWizzardok then02:16
DarkWizzardgood02:16
DarkWizzardso02:16
arso"sudo rm -rf libGL.so.1.2"02:16
DarkWizzardsudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.202:16
DarkWizzardlet that go02:16
DarkWizzardmove on02:16
arsooh isnt the next step sudo rm -rf libGL.so.1.202:16
DarkWizzardto the next step02:16
arsook02:16
DarkWizzardtipe02:16
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DarkWizzardsudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.202:16
arsocok02:17
arsook resolving..02:17
rpedroarso: take a look here >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283 , particularly the troubleshooting tip about making links to /usr/lib/dri , it fixed that for me02:18
arsoresolving darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org... failed: Name or service not known.02:18
arsorpedro:  sure, i'll take a look02:18
DarkWizzardwtf02:18
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DarkWizzardarso: sudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.202:18
DarkWizzardexacltly in this form02:19
arsook02:19
arsoresolving02:19
arsook downloading :D 40%02:19
DarkWizzardk02:19
arsowat was wrong with the first link02:19
DarkWizzardlet it download02:19
DarkWizzardnothing02:19
DarkWizzardit was the sam02:19
DarkWizzarde02:19
arsooh.. so wat was the wrong02:20
arsowoops,. wat was wrong*02:20
arsook its done02:20
BKajis anyone familiar with Kororaa project live cd for Xgl ?02:20
DarkWizzarddownloaded ?02:20
arsoyes02:20
DarkWizzardBKaj: seen that02:20
DarkWizzardok02:20
DarkWizzardnow02:20
DarkWizzardcd /usr/lib/fglrx02:20
DarkWizzardsudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old02:20
DarkWizzardand again02:20
DarkWizzardsudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.202:21
arsonothing happened at "sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old"02:21
DarkWizzardok02:21
DarkWizzardthen02:21
DarkWizzardmove to the next02:21
arsoresolving02:21
DjDarkmanarso: actualy something did happen then ,but it didn`t output nothing ,but don`t let this confuse you02:22
arsook02:22
DarkWizzardis it downloading ?02:22
arsoits done02:22
DarkWizzardok now02:22
DarkWizzardsudo ln -s /usr/lib/dri /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri02:23
DarkWizzardand when youre done02:23
arsono output02:23
DarkWizzardfeel free to reboot02:23
DarkWizzardor restart x02:23
DarkWizzardno proble02:23
DarkWizzardit has no output02:23
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DjDarkmanarso: type ps aux | grep X02:24
arsoonly ig ij02:24
arsooh ok02:24
arsoDjDarkman:  wat does that do?02:24
DjDarkmanpaste the second line of the output02:24
DjDarkmanarso: it tells X`s pid02:24
arsotype ps aux | grep X02:25
arsobash: type: aux: not found02:25
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DarkWizzardwell02:25
DarkWizzardjust reboot02:25
abattoirarso: 'ps aux'....02:25
DarkWizzardthats the best02:25
DjDarkmanarso: I said ps aux | grep X02:25
abattoiri think you omitted ps02:25
DjDarkmanDarkWizzard: actualy it`s the same02:26
DarkWizzardwell yes02:26
DarkWizzardbut if any kernel modules need loading02:26
arsook got 3 lines of output02:26
DarkWizzardthen maybe its necesary02:26
DjDarkmanpaste the second line arso02:26
DarkWizzardohh just press ctrl alt backspace02:26
arsouth/A:0-NOU2tp02:26
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enricovhi to all02:28
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arso_i am back02:28
arso_wy didnt u tel me it restarts !!!02:28
arso_i didnt save some stuf02:28
arso_oh well02:28
DarkWizzardand now02:28
DarkWizzardfglrxinfo02:28
arso_in regular konsole02:28
arso_or cd /usr/bin02:28
DarkWizzardyeah02:28
DarkWizzardregular02:28
DarkWizzardbut it doesnt really matter02:28
arso_fglrxinfo02:28
arso_fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared                                                                                  object file: No such file or directory02:28
DarkWizzardhmm02:29
DarkWizzardwell02:29
DarkWizzardthen02:29
DarkWizzardsudo cd /usr/bin02:29
DarkWizzardsudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.102:29
DarkWizzardcd /usr/bin/fglrx02:29
Pupeno_DarkWizzard: on bin ? don't you mean lib ?02:29
DarkWizzardohh02:29
DarkWizzarderr02:29
DarkWizzardyeah02:29
arso_lol02:29
DarkWizzardthanks02:29
DarkWizzard:)02:29
arso_cd /usr/lib ?02:29
DarkWizzardyeah02:30
arso_ok02:30
arso_Pupeno thanx :D02:30
DarkWizzardand cd /usr/lib/fglrx02:30
DarkWizzardsudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.102:30
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arso_ok done02:30
arso_no output02:30
DarkWizzardnow again02:30
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DarkWizzardctrl alt backspace02:31
arso_okay02:31
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arsook02:32
arsonow wat02:32
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DarkWizzardfglrxinfo02:33
DarkWizzardagain02:33
arsooh god02:33
arsofglrxinfo02:33
arsofglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director02:33
DarkWizzardhmmm02:34
arso=(02:34
DarkWizzardopen konqueror02:34
DarkWizzardwith root02:34
arsokdesu konqueror?02:34
DarkWizzardsudo konqueror02:34
DarkWizzardwait no02:34
DarkWizzardls /usr/lib |grep libGL02:34
arsolibGL.so.102:35
arsolibGL.so1.2.old02:35
arsolibGLU.so.102:35
arsolibGLU.so.1.3.06040102:35
arsobtw wat does |grep do?02:35
DarkWizzardfilter02:35
DarkWizzardhmmm02:35
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DarkWizzardand now02:35
DarkWizzardls /usr/lib/fglrx |grep libGL02:35
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klerfaytI've got some issues with nvidia-glx > nvidia-settings keep resetting ad don't remember my preferences02:36
arsolibGL.so.102:36
arsolibGL.so.1.2.old02:36
arsolibGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa02:36
arsolibGL.so.1.xlibmesa02:36
DarkWizzardtry rebooting02:37
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arsobtw quick question off-topic02:37
arsohow can i change the color in windows behavior02:37
arsoits stuck on blue02:37
DarkWizzardsudo kcontrol02:37
DjDarkmanklerfayt: what settings do you mean?02:37
DjDarkmanDarkWizzard: he don`t needs root priveleges for that02:38
klerfaytDjDarkman: when run "nvidia-settings02:38
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DarkWizzardthen just kcontrol02:38
arsook02:38
arsothen02:38
DjDarkmanklerfayt: did you do this before sudo apt-get --assume-yes install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` ?02:38
klerfaytDjDarkman: yes drivers work02:38
DarkWizzardmaybe some permission errors02:39
^osh^Anyone good at building packages here? I have some questions.02:39
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arsoDarkWizzard:  cant i use custom colors? theyre all preset with 3 colors02:39
DjDarkmanklerfayt: did you run nvidia-settings with root?02:39
klerfaytDjDarkman: no02:39
DjDarkmanklerfayt: then sudo nvidia-settings02:40
DjDarkmanand it should work even after you reboot02:40
DarkWizzardi'm not sure what you mean when you say windows behavior02:40
klerfaytDjDarkman: ok I'll try that02:40
^osh^I'm using pbuilder (which executes in a fakeroot iirc) but I still get a "install: cannot create regular file ....."02:40
arsoDarkWizzard:  just the top toolbar with minimize and close , how do ichange blue to red for instance02:40
^osh^And I'm using sudo to start pbuilder...02:41
DarkWizzardyou cant02:41
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DarkWizzardyou need to change window decorations02:41
klerfaytDjDarkman: and then I got this  ERROR: Error parsing configuration file '/home/kristjan/.nvidia-settings-rc' on line 36: '0/RedBrightness=0.000000' (Trailing garbage).02:41
DarkWizzardlook on kde-look.org02:41
DarkWizzardfor one you like02:41
arsoi see ok02:41
arsoand how do i instal those02:41
BKajI'm still trying to install Xgl , however the Kororaa Xgl-live-cd freezes the scrn after booting and scanning the hardware loading the drivers ...has anyone tried this live cd ?02:42
DarkWizzardthere are more02:42
DarkWizzardmaybe you need decorator02:42
DarkWizzarddekorator02:42
arsohmm i created new theme in theme manager, and when i click colors nothing opens02:42
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pepsihrm02:42
DjDarkmanhmmmm that`s strange klerfayt02:42
pepsitheres like a bazillion settings for changing how windows look02:42
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DarkWizzardarso they are install tips for every one of them02:42
arsoDarkWizzard:  anyways, thats unimportant, ia m going to reboot then for the ati problem02:42
pepsiis there an easy way to pick settings that look halfway decent?02:42
arsoi'l check it later02:42
arsobrb reboot02:42
DarkWizzardyeah02:43
DarkWizzardI did02:43
DarkWizzardwell i got it working02:43
DarkWizzardbut it was really ugly02:43
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DarkWizzardand slow02:43
DjDarkmanklerfayt: try cd /home/kristjan/02:43
arsoback02:43
DarkWizzardthat was a fast reboot02:43
DarkWizzardI mean reboot02:43
DarkWizzard!02:43
ubotuI know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:43
arsoehe02:43
DarkWizzardnot just kill DX02:43
DarkWizzardX02:43
DarkWizzardyou know02:43
arsoi did02:43
DarkWizzardthe reset button on your computer02:43
arsoalt ctrl backspace02:43
DjDarkmanklerfayt: mv .nvidia-settings-rc .nvidia-settings-rc.backup02:43
arsooh ok02:43
arsolog out  restart02:44
DjDarkmanklerfayt: and then sudo nvidia-settings02:44
DarkWizzardor just push the f button02:44
pepsif is for fun?02:44
DarkWizzardyeah02:44
DarkWizzardits for funny02:44
klerfaytDjDarkman: it's same with cd'ing to home, but it isn't shown then I remove nvidia-settings file02:45
BKajDarkWizzard: are you saying you tried Xgl and it was ugly ?02:45
DarkWizzardno02:45
DarkWizzardI say that I didn't have enough hardware02:45
DarkWizzardto make it work decently02:45
DarkWizzardeverything was slow02:45
DarkWizzardand it fell apart02:45
^osh^Noone here who can answer some questions about how to pack a .deb?02:45
DjDarkmanklerfayt: don`t quite understand you ,did you move the nvidia settings file?02:45
DjDarkman^osh^: look on the forum02:46
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arsoba k02:46
DarkWizzardok02:46
arsothats more like it eh02:46
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DarkWizzardnow02:46
DarkWizzardfglrx02:46
BKajIC. it's supposed to work with my ati card (same as arso's btw) , but he scrn freezes afert bootup and loading02:46
DarkWizzard9200 SE ?02:46
DjDarkmanI asked the same question and they gave me a link ^osh^ but it was too hard to understandt for me02:46
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arsoDarkWizzard:  u mean fglrxinfo?02:46
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DarkWizzardyes02:47
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arsodamn same error02:47
arsofglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or dir02:47
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BKajI'm still trying to install Xgl , however the Kororaa Xgl-live-cd freezes the scrn after booting and scanning the hardware loading the drivers ...has anyone tried this live cd ?02:47
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^osh^DjDarkman: Got that link? I'm reading the manual and I do have some packaging experience (from .rpm's) but some things are just quicker to ask.02:47
DarkWizzardLIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo02:47
BKajoops sorry02:47
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arsoDarkWizzard:  thats for me?02:47
DarkWizzardyea02:47
DarkWizzardh02:47
DjDarkman^osh^: is it the ubuntu pacakageing manual you are reading?02:48
BKajarso , maybe you want to check in system settings / hardware/dispaly/admin mode/hardware/graphics card/configure and see which driver is highlighted in the list for your video card02:48
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arsoglxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:48
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DarkWizzardman02:48
arsoBKaj:  check how please?02:48
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DarkWizzardbut its there02:48
^osh^DjDarkman: Yep.02:48
arsoDarkWizzard:  thats weird..02:48
DjDarkman^osh^: that`s the link I`ve got02:48
^osh^DjDarkman: help.ubuntu.com or some such?02:49
BKajread the list i gave you, start in the menu at system settings02:49
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arsookay02:49
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DjDarkmandon`t know ^osh^ that was long time ago02:49
RandomDude15is there a channel for avidemux help?02:49
RandomDude15im running kubuntu and having some issues with avidemux02:49
^osh^DjDarkman: Ok, thanks for answering though.02:49
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RandomDude15http://www.avidemux.org/pun/viewtopic.php?pid=13814#p13814 - look there.02:50
BKajso is ANYONE using Xgl here ?02:50
arsofglrx is highlighted02:50
BKajgood!02:50
DarkWizzardfglrx sucks big time02:50
arsohmm on the same screen where fglrx is highlighted02:51
arsovideo ram is "1mb" wtf? i have 25602:51
BKajDarkWizzard: is there another driver that works in kubuntu with ATI cards?02:51
DarkWizzardthere is02:51
RandomDude15anyone?02:51
DarkWizzardthe default one02:51
DarkWizzardthe simple ati02:51
DarkWizzardbut it has a low fps02:51
arsobut 3d acceleration or watever02:51
RandomDude15DKaj: save your   self some  trouble and use nvidia02:51
DarkWizzardand it only works with older cards02:52
arsotoo late for me to switch to nvidia, my card is 1month old02:52
BKajvideo ram is different than regular memory ram02:52
arsoya vga memory right?02:52
DarkWizzardyou just need to put that file in place02:52
arsomy regular ram is 1gb02:52
RandomDude15I've rather run a 64MB nvidia than a  512MB ati on linux.02:52
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DarkWizzardi have to go02:52
DarkWizzardbye all02:52
RandomDude15cya02:53
arsoomg02:53
arsoi am screwed :P02:53
arsoBKaj:  so how come it shows 1mb?02:53
BKajyeah RandomDude, well , I'm not a gamer02:53
arsobrb toilet02:53
BKajthats' video memory not pc memory arso02:54
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RandomDude15anyone want to help me with avidemux?02:56
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Kr4t05The eject button on my DVD/CD-RW combo drive doesn't work.02:58
Kr4t05I can use sudo eject /dev/hdb but I want my eject button. ><02:59
arsoBKaj:  back.02:59
arsoBKaj:  i know, my vga is 256 mb03:00
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arsoPupeno:  ur ati?03:00
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Pupenoarso: what ?03:00
arsoPupeno:  vga is ATI ?03:00
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Pupenoarso: errr, no vga is some kind of specification, ATI is a company that doesn't respect people's freedom.03:01
DjDarkmanKr4t05: try automatix ,it has a solution for that03:02
arsolol03:02
PupenoI configured my wireless access point to be totally open: no wep, no wpa, yet, I can't connect to it. Any ideas how to troubleshoot ?03:03
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Kr4t05DjDarkman: Automatix sucks.03:03
Tm_T!automatix03:03
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.03:03
Tm_T Use at your own risk03:03
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DjDarkmanKr4t05: right it suxx ,but it`s script is good if you open it with a text editor and try to do it youreself03:04
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DjDarkmanis there a forum moderator here?03:08
BKajautomatix works ok if ya don't try to install too much at one time03:09
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BKajapokryphos howdy03:09
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DjDarkmanBKaj: I say the best thing is to open it`s script with a text editor and do those thing youreself ,that way you can even see what it does03:10
apokryphos-hi03:10
BKajok DjDarkman03:11
BKajapokryphos, do use Xgl ?03:11
apokryphos-yes03:11
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BKajI'm trying to install it from Kororaa live cd , but my scrn freezes upon loading after booting in03:12
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apokryphos-install it from the CD? What?03:13
BKajprolly the ati driver ...the guys here say it's shit03:13
BKajKororaa live cd, http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-181203#download03:14
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apokryphosATI kind of sucks, yes03:16
apokryphosI still have no idea what you mean by install xgl from Kororaa live CD03:16
apokryphos!xgl03:16
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:16
BKajthe Korora site says my ati card driver ( fglrx ) is supposed to work03:17
Pupenommhh... I am having trouble finding my own access point and my neighbors', that is, in one scan I see one, then I see the other, then I see none for a couple of scans and this is driving me crazy. Maybe it is possible that something is causing a major interference around here ?03:17
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caribou7Anyone know how to disable the X style copy and paste behavior (specifically where highlighting text with the mouse destroys the current clipboard contents)?03:27
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Pupenocaribou7: here it doesn't destroy the ctrl-c/ctrl-v clipboard, they are two separate clipboards.03:28
caribou7Let me experiment a second, it was pasting URL's into Firefox that was the main problem...03:30
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Pupenocaribou7: oh, maybe firefox is only accessing the X clipboard (and not the KDE one).03:32
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caribou7No, it does work the way you said. But I found another annoyance regarding the numeric keypad...03:35
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caribou7Why does pressing SHIFT+insert give you the number 0 (zero) rather than inserting text UNLESS you keep numlock on (and is there any way to change that)?03:37
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wredna_sukahello03:38
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dj_baggiowredna_suka: your nickname are very, very bad03:39
wredna_sukadj_baggio: why?03:39
Pupenocaribou7: depending on where the numlock is, shift and that key would be shift-insert or shift-0, two different 'keystrokes'. shift-0 prints 0... if you want it to paste, edit the shortcuts.03:39
dj_baggiowredna_suka: mam Ci qwa powiedzie dlaczego?:>03:40
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wredna_sukadj_baggio: nie podskakuj03:48
DjDarkmanhow can I make the latest amarok for ubuntu work other engines than xine?03:49
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Russelhiho03:49
Russelwhy is the twinkle version in ubuntu so old?03:49
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wredna_sukaDjDarkman: enable them at compilation?03:49
Russel0.42 and the actual version is 0.8103:49
DjDarkmanwredna_suka: I have the package ,I didn`t compile it03:50
dj_baggiohop, hop :)03:50
wredna_sukaDjDarkman: which engines do you want to work with?03:51
DjDarkmangstreamer for example03:51
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wredna_sukaI don't know, I always compile Amarok03:53
wredna_sukathere's a package "amarok-engines", have you tried it out?03:54
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wredna_sukadj_baggio: nie podskakuj bo sufit gow przebijesz :P03:55
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no_planHi03:58
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wredna_sukano_plan: Hi03:59
no_planI am trying to install kubuntu 6.06 on a new system (bare unformated hdd). I booted into the live version and started the installation. However, I want to use manual partitioning.03:59
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wredna_sukano_plan: and what's the problem?03:59
no_planWhen I start the partitioning tool, I can make new partitions and format them, however, I cannot assign any mountpoints or swap space in the next step. The drop down box for selection of partitions i sempty.04:00
no_planWhen I klick on "next" it complains (of course) I have no swap space assigned.04:00
no_planIs that a bug or do I simply need to RTFM?04:00
no_planAutomatic partitioning (kubuntu choses a two partition layout with a swap partition of unknown size in the end of the disk) works fine.04:01
wredna_sukasorry, i don't know, i didn't install desktop (that is live) version04:01
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tokahi04:02
no_planwredna_suka: Well, it is the only way to do it with 6.06. There is no way to install without the live version detour.04:02
no_planwredna_suka: or is there?04:02
wredna_sukatraditional installer didn't ever fail me though04:02
tokaich hab ein asus board mit dem realtek ALC850 chip..wie kann ich den SPDif aktivieren?04:03
wredna_sukai think there isn't, the only way is download alternate version04:03
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no_planwredna_suka: another full disk image?? ARGH!04:03
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no_plananybody here ever used the standard installer and successfully partitioned the harddisk manually?04:04
wredna_sukabut i don't guarantee it helps :(04:04
no_plantoka: Vielleicht besser auf Englisch?04:04
tokano_plan: ok.danke04:05
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wredna_sukaok, bye for now04:05
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wredna_sukaidzie burza, trza kompa wyczy04:05
tokaHow can I activate the SPDIF output? Realtek ALC85004:06
Tommy2k4when i boot up it tries to open sendmail even though ive apt-get remove sendmail, rm /etc/init.d/sendmail, update-rc.d sendmail remove04:06
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Tommy2k4how can i stop it04:07
dj_baggiowredna_suka is curse in polish :)04:07
Hotwiredhey, is there an on-line alternate for "deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main" as this produces an error04:08
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no_plantoka: hmm, have you checked http://www.alsa-project.org/04:10
tokano_plan: not i haven't..thanks a lot04:10
no_plantoka: ALSA drivers are included in all 2.6.x kernels, including *buntu.04:13
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Jack1hi guys04:19
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Jack1who knows if the sony w800i or w700i work with kontact?04:19
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Jack1in tuxmobile etc i didnt find them04:20
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GIGANTORalright, well i've asked in #wine, but nobody is answering04:22
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GIGANTORdoes anyone know if the .net framework works in Wine?04:22
h3sp4wnGIGANTOR: #winehq is what you want04:22
GIGANTORahh, ok04:23
GIGANTOR=)04:23
h3sp4wnGIGANTOR: However if its your application you should use mono04:23
GIGANTOR!mono04:23
ubotuI know nothing about mono - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:23
GIGANTOR;\04:23
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GIGANTORi'll try that channel, thanks bro04:23
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grizzlyMy apps keys doesn't work in konsole/Opera04:32
grizzlyis it normal, or do I file a bug report. Confirm plz04:32
grizzlyit works fine in kcontrol04:33
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Child4Christi installed apache2, php5, php5mysql and mysql-server, i need to host forums and i dont know about ftp servers, anyone know one thats good?04:37
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h3sp4wnChild4Christ: Don't use phpbb (The code is horrible and it has many security problems)04:38
Tommy2k4grizzly, which keys dont work04:38
Child4Christits Simple Machines04:38
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Child4Christtesting the servers for now but i need to get it all sorted before tuesday04:39
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grizzlyTommy2k4: the [apps]  keys . the key sto the right of the right alt key.04:39
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Child4Christall works fine but it wants to know ftp details, no ftp server so im after one with good documentation i can apt-get04:40
grizzlysry, its to the right of the right win key ( left of the right ctrl key)04:40
KaiHanariChild4Christ,  proftpd, its documented in a howto on the forums04:40
wily_i try kismet as wireless detector04:40
Child4Christthx :)04:40
KaiHanarii'll find the link04:40
wily_but it is too hard ti use04:40
wily_for me04:40
wily_anyone knows something most simple04:41
wily_?04:41
h3sp4wnwily_: For cracking into other peoples networks ?04:41
wily_no04:41
h3sp4wnwily_: You shouldn't ask about stuff like that in here04:41
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wily_i need tio try my wireless resistence04:41
wily_i've made a wireless04:42
h3sp4wnIf you are using wep you have none04:42
wily_and i want to test it04:42
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KaiHanariChild4Christ, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588&highlight=howto+proftpd     theres also a graphical tool for administrating it i hear, just gimmie a sec on that04:43
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Child4Christty KaiHanari :)04:44
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KaiHanariChild4Christ, if you just apt-get install gproftpd     it will install all you need, i dont know how easy gproftpd is to use though, downloading it now to find out for you...04:45
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stankshi04:45
Child4Christty KaiHanari appreciate your help :)04:46
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KaiHanarino prob Child4Christ , any time04:47
Child4Christrandom but why do i get this? (gproftpd:28174): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:04:47
arsohmm, when i try to open froen bubble (game_ it shows its loading then closses. was working fine earlier04:48
KaiHanariChild4Christ, did you use sudo to run gproftpd? or did you have a root login going to use it?04:48
Child4Christroot login04:49
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KaiHanariChild4Christ, open a new terminal as your own user, and use sudo04:49
KaiHanariunless your only logged in by SSH04:49
Child4Christworked, ty :)04:49
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Child4Christin terms of security, should i have ftp usrs (people i host for) have a /home/dir or is it ok to leave them in /var/www?04:51
centyxChild4Christ: i would chroot them to whatever dir they have access to04:52
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Child4Christatm no one has it, tuesday they will though04:53
h3sp4wnChild4Christ: If it is going to be externally accessible I would build a chrooted apache from source04:53
Child4Christis it possible to just alter the apache .conf file to add a vhost for them to direct them to a /home/hosted/www/dir for the forums they want?04:54
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h3sp4wnI would want it completely seperate from the host sytem04:55
h3sp4wnsystem04:55
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Child4Christi have another 2 servers but my desktops the highest spec (not much but still) but its just like 2 forums, not publically hosting, mine and my gfs forums are the only ones being hosted04:56
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centyxh3sp4wn: what do you think about chrooting via mod_security?04:57
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centyxi haven't run chrooted apache since I quit using openbsd04:58
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h3sp4wncentyx: If I ever had any externally accessible server I would run just what is absolutely necessary (from in jail if I was using bsd) and build it from source with just what I needed05:01
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h3sp4wncentyx: I don't trust anything that someone can attempt to break into 24/7 with anything else (and I don't like running firewalls on the server)05:02
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ChefWillanyone know of an applet for panels that will show current online (gaim/kopete) buddies?05:02
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Tommy2k4when i boot up it tries to open sendmail even though ive apt-get remove sendmail, rm /etc/init.d/sendmail, update-rc.d sendmail remove05:05
Tommy2k4how can i stop it05:05
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Tommy2k4it adds like a minute to bootup time05:05
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user-landHello, what do you use to configure a bluetooth connection on Kubuntu ?05:08
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GIGANTORuser-land: Goto "System Settings" on the Kmenu05:09
GIGANTORyou'll see a BlueTooth icon05:09
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user-landgigantor, i still have the gnome panel from Ubuntu instead of the Kmenu, do you know how to change that ? i just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu and rebooted into kde ...05:10
Jazonhi - any gimp users here?05:11
GIGANTORdid you uninstall the gnome-desktop as well?05:11
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hubthis time i"m the real Hub05:12
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NetSKaVeNhell-o!05:13
user-landyou mean ubuntu-desktop, gigantor ?05:13
GIGANTORyeah, sorry05:13
user-landi removed it now.05:13
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GIGANTORreboot and give it a whirl05:13
user-landthanks.05:13
hubis there any firefox -> konqueror migration tool for Kubuntu?05:13
GIGANTORcome tell us if it works05:14
GIGANTOR;)05:14
GIGANTORso i'll know if i know what i'm doing or not, lol05:14
user-landsure, see you.05:14
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GIGANTORin theory that's probably it though05:14
GIGANTORHub- i'm not real sure, maybe someone knows05:15
GIGANTORi've never heard of one though05:15
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Pupenohub: what do you need to migrate, the bookmarks ?05:16
huband password05:16
hubbookmark should be easy05:16
Pupenohub: o, those... I don't think so.05:16
hubpassword probably less05:16
GIGANTORyeah, i just looked through the bookmarks, thats no problem05:16
hublooks like i"m boned05:16
hubor doomed to write it05:16
hublike the f-spot -> digikam05:17
GIGANTORhow many pw's do you have?  =S05:17
GIGANTORor did you forget one, lol05:17
GIGANTORif so i can help with that05:17
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Tommy2k4when i boot up it tries to open sendmail even though ive apt-get remove sendmail, rm /etc/init.d/sendmail, update-rc.d sendmail remove05:19
Tommy2k4how can i stop it05:19
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GIGANTORwb user-land05:19
NetSKaVeNI need someone try to access http://www.alesti.org with Konqueror 3.5.305:19
hubGIGANTOR: I have enough password stored on several machines05:19
user-landthanks, gigantor. ubuntu-desktop is an empty meta-package, removing it does not change anything immediatly ...05:19
hubGIGANTOR: but that is not the point05:20
Pupenouser-land: unless you use aptitude, which is the nice thing about aptitude :)05:20
GIGANTORso it didn't do anything... hmm05:20
GIGANTORsee if you can run command "kcontrol"05:20
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user-landyes, it opens the KDE control panel :-)05:21
GIGANTORthen go into Internet and Network05:21
GIGANTORand you'll see Bluetooth05:21
PupenoNetSKaVeN: since Kubuntu comes with Konqueror 3.5.2, you may want to ask somewhere else, like #kde05:21
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GIGANTOR;)05:22
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NetSKaVeNPupeno: it is a kubuntu packages problem, other KDE 3.5.3 are working ok05:22
PupenoNetSKaVeN: oh! sorry.05:22
NetSKaVeNbut I need someone trying it so I can determinate if it's my problem or kubuntu problem05:23
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abattoirNetSKaVeN: works for me05:23
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abattoirNetSKaVeN: try changing browser id05:24
GIGANTORabattoir, have you seen aegean lately?05:24
||Trayer||Can anyone help me out? I'm trying to install Unreal Tournament 2004, And it is a ".sh" file.  I know this is a shell script, just not sure how to run it.05:24
NetSKaVeNabattoir: I will try, thanks05:24
abattoir!seen aegeanlinux05:24
ubotuI last saw aegeanlinux (n=tim@202.172.121.122) 4h 34m 18s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection05:24
GIGANTORnot the linux version, teh dooder05:24
abattoirGIGANTOR: ^^^^^ :)05:24
GIGANTOR;P05:24
GIGANTORoh ok05:24
GIGANTORlol05:24
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||Trayer||And it is titled, "Linux-Installer".05:25
GIGANTOR;P05:25
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abattoir||Trayer||: want to run it as root?05:25
user-landthanks, gigantor.05:25
GIGANTORwoot woot, your connection works?05:25
user-landhow do i set a bluetooth password ?05:25
abattoir||Trayer||: 'sudo sh ./filename.sh'05:25
||Trayer||abattoir: Root is good05:26
GIGANTORlemme look05:26
||Trayer||Thanks abbatoir05:26
GIGANTORalthough i'm not sure i can get that far without any actual bluetooth periphs05:26
||Trayer||or however you spell it : P05:26
abattoiruser-land: /etc/bluetooth/pin05:26
NetSKaVeNabattoir: not working here :-mm05:27
user-landabattoir:/etc/bluetooth/pin05:27
user-landcommand not found.05:27
||Trayer||Is there a way to make so I don't have to type sudo before every command? I'm not really used to doing it and I forget alot05:28
abattoiruser-land: its a file, you need to edit it as root and put the pin in05:28
user-landah, thanks.05:28
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||Trayer||How does one move into a Mounted cd in the terminal?05:29
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Tommy2k4how can i get rid of every trace of sendmail and stop it trying to open on bootup (i already uninstalled it but it still tries to open and adds over a minute to bootup time)05:30
abattoirNetSKaVeN: sorry, i dont know what exactly should load.... however, Konq seems to think there is a Javascript error05:30
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||Trayer||How do I move into a mounted CD drive?05:31
NetSKaVeNabattoir: do you see rss feed reader?05:31
Tommy2k4/media/cdrom05:31
abattoir||Trayer||: in a terminal?05:31
Skaman_hi guys can anybody help me?05:31
Skaman_i'm trying to install wpa supplicant05:31
||Trayer||Yep, Tommy2k4 answered it thanks tommy ^,^05:31
Skaman_but when i give the "make" cmd i have this error: "make: *** No rule to make target `config.o', needed by `wpa_supplicant'.  Stop"05:32
abattoirNetSKaVeN: I dont thinks so... there is nothing below the link for the fora05:32
abattoirSkaman_: did you run './conigure' first?05:32
abattoir*configure05:32
NetSKaVeNabattoir: thanks for the help  ;)05:32
user-landabattoir, the password is there, but connecting with it still fails. do i need to run something ?05:33
abattoirNetSKaVeN: np, sorry, could figure out what exactly is the problem though....05:33
abattoiruser-land: what device are you connecting with?05:33
||Trayer||How do I mount and unmount the cd? eject and put it back in?05:33
user-landcell phone.05:33
abattoiruser-land: type bluetooth:/ in konqueror05:34
user-landyes, i see the phone there :-)05:34
Skaman_@abattoir ops05:35
Skaman_i've understood05:35
abattoirSkaman_: what was that for?05:35
||Trayer||How do I eject a cd? I need to insert CD 2, but, the front loading button wont work05:35
abattoiruser-land: if you click on it does it ask you for your pin?05:35
abattoiruser-land: does it make an attempt to pair ?05:36
||Trayer||When I go to "unmount" it shows an error05:36
user-landno, when i click on it in konqueror, a lot of services get listed.05:37
||Trayer||"Device is busy"05:37
user-landbut it does not attempt to pair.05:37
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abattoiruser-land: which service do you want to use?05:37
user-landi would like to copy files from it ...05:38
abattoiruser-land: ok, long time since i did this, so let me do it with you... :)05:38
GIGANTORTrayer- reboot  ;P05:38
GIGANTORwell, do you have any windows open for the CD?05:38
GIGANTORmight close those then try to unmount it05:39
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||Trayer||kk05:39
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user-landnice, abattoir. i tried OBEX file transfer, so it attempted to pair, but it failed after i gave it the pin.05:40
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abattoiruser-land: ok, this is what i do, mark all the files on your phone, send it via bluetooth to your pc...05:40
abattoiryou get the KDE Bluetooth Framework Incoming File transfer dialog05:40
abhitoday i have installed the crossover office. after the reboot when i give my password at login screen, once again login screen comes asking for password. (my password is correct).05:40
abattoirchoose where you want to save the file and save it05:41
GIGANTORabhi- does the login screen look any different than usual?05:41
user-landabattoir, i do not get a listing of the files of the phone.05:41
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abattoiruser-land: you want to transfer the files *from* the phone right?05:42
abhino.05:42
user-landi think i better go buy a data cable ...05:42
||Trayer||"unmount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy (same thing next line) please check that the disk is entered correctly."  That's the error I'm getting, in the installation it says clearly dont start unless you can mount and unmount CD images,05:42
user-landyes.05:42
abhigigantor: no.05:43
abattoiruser-land: your phone doesnt show you those files?05:43
user-landah, i see.05:43
GIGANTORabhi- hmm..05:43
GIGANTORthinking05:43
||Trayer||So, how can one un-mount a "Busy" cd?05:43
bsanfordCan you connect to MSOutlook Workgroup share with Kontact?05:44
abattoiruser-land: if i want to access a particular service that my phone offers(like bluetooth serial port for eg.) I click on each service... and then i'm asked for the passcode... then pairing takes place05:44
abattoiruser-land: you might also want to chech the latest SVN version of kmobiletools05:44
abattoiruser-land: it has a bluetooth pairing wizard which might simplify things :)05:45
h3sp4wnabattoir: Have you ever messed with prelinking kde ?05:45
GIGANTORabhi- wait until abattoir gets finished, he might could help further.  Unless someone else wants to chime in05:45
BirthdayHobbseeh3sp4wn: i didnt find much difference, if any05:46
user-landgreat, abattoir. sending from the phone is working :-)05:46
GIGANTORabattoir ftw  ;P05:46
user-landbut i don't know where the file is on my pc now.05:46
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h3sp4wnBirthdayHobbsee: I didn't notice much difference either but I am not 100% sure I was doing it right05:47
abattoirh3sp4wn: no, always used the 'stock' stuff... havent noticed KDE being slow ;)05:47
abhigigantor : did you get some thing about my problem?05:47
abattoirabhi: wait i'll read up.05:47
GIGANTORlemme google a bit05:47
abhiok.05:47
h3sp4wnBirthdayHobbsee: happy birthday btw05:47
BirthdayHobbseety :)05:48
abattoirabhi: you are pretty sure its due to crossover office? had any other side effects?05:48
user-landdoes someone know how to replace the gnome panel with a kmenu taskbar ?05:48
abattoirabhi: also, how long does it take... I mean, as soon as you enter your password, it gives you the screen back or does it take some time?05:48
abattoiruser-land: in gnome?05:49
||Trayer||Alright, it's the konsole that's holding the installer that's claiming it's busy.  So, I'm assuming if I remotly type in the thing it'll work.  How does "sudo sh ./media/cdrom/linux-installer.sh" work? Would it work?05:49
user-landin kde, abattoir. i just installed kubuntu-desktop and rebooted into kde.05:49
abhiabattoir: i thing it might be for crossover office. because before it was installed, kubuntu working fine.05:49
abattoiruser-land: kde has a gnome-panel ? :S05:49
abattoiruser-land: are you sure?05:50
abattoiruser-land: try 'killall kicker && kicker'05:50
||Trayer||How can I sh a sh file without going into it's directory?05:50
abhiabattoir:yes instantly give the login screen.05:50
abattoirsee if you get the 'gnome-panel' back05:50
user-landkicker: no process killed05:51
||Trayer|| How do I run a SH file without going into its directory through command line?05:51
abattoiruser-land: killall gnome-panel ?05:51
abhiabattoir:no one black screen comes in between them05:51
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h3sp4wn||Trayer||: sh /path/to/blah.sh05:51
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user-landthe panel disappeared and came back, abattoir.05:52
user-landso am i still in gnome, right ?05:52
||Trayer||%c4 h3sp4wn: do I need to put a ./ in there anywhere?05:52
abattoirabhi: then, it might not be a problem w/ X or KDE... the latter, actually05:52
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abattoiruser-land: i suspect so05:52
Tommy2k4how can i get rid of every trace of sendmail and stop it trying to open on bootup (i already uninstalled it but it still tries to open and adds over a minute to bootup time)05:52
abattoirabhi: you are sure about the password ?05:52
user-landtrying a reboot then :-)05:52
abhiabattoir: yes.05:52
abattoiruser-land: when you login...05:53
abattoiruser-land: change session to KDE05:53
abattoirin the login screen05:53
abattoirabhi: ok, wait up05:53
abhiok05:53
abattoirabhi: you remember changing any X or KDE settings?05:53
abhino05:53
abhii changed the rosolution only05:54
abattoirabhi: hmm, X does startup though, so is a KDE issue.... i guess05:54
abattoirabhi: before this stopped working?05:54
abattoiror long ago?05:54
abhinot at all05:54
abattoirabhi: when did you change the resolution?05:54
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abhibefore one  or two boots.05:55
abattoirabhi:  and then you logged into KDE w/ the new resolution?05:55
abhiyes05:55
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abattoirabhi: ok, then get out of KDM... there must be an option in the menu... something like 'Terminal'05:57
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abhiI thing yes . or alt+f105:57
abattoirabhi: also press 'Ctrl+Alt+F1'05:57
abattoiraah ok05:57
abattoirbut kill KDM05:57
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abhiyes yes05:57
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ubuntuHi all05:58
abhihow05:58
abattoirabhi:  there must be an option in the menu05:58
abattoirabhi: i dont remember it exactly05:58
ubuntuhow do i install grub, there was an error the first time i was installing it05:58
abhifor what?05:58
ubuntui want to install it to the MBR05:58
abattoirabhi: for switching to a terminal05:58
abhiabattoir: yes05:59
abattoirabhi: or through tty0(Ctrl+Alt+F1) type 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:59
abattoirabhi: wait, i'll confirm the command05:59
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abhiok05:59
abattoirabhi: yup, that's right05:59
abattoirexecute that05:59
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abattoirthat should kill kdm...06:00
ubuntuif you stop kdm won't it kill the x server and whatever chat client abhi is using?06:00
abattoirubuntu: i think he is on another computer06:00
abattoirhe cant even get into KDe06:00
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user-landyou were right of course, abattoir, thank you.06:01
abattoirubuntu: ok, now to your problem, you have everything intstalled into the HD?06:01
ubuntuyea that would make sense06:01
abhiabattoir: what should I do after killing kdm?06:01
user-landabattoir, you like meat ? :-)06:01
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ubuntuyea i installed it to the HD the first time and the installer crashed giving an error about grub06:01
abattoiruser-land: no, i'm a vegetarian06:01
abattoiruser-land: the name is misleading, yes :)06:01
user-landhey, what a contrast to your name then :-)06:02
abattoirabhi: first go through the logs06:02
GIGANTORTommy- did you get an answer?06:02
abattoirabhi: /var/log ...06:02
abhiok06:02
abattoirabhi: see if you can find something useful06:02
abattoir'cat /var/log'06:02
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abattoirubuntu: you chose an XFS formatted partition as the root one?06:03
ubuntuyea and a 100mb /boot partition06:03
abhiok I am going to try this. after that I will come back. thanks abattoir.06:03
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abattoirabhi: ok06:03
||Trayer||This is gunna sound stupid, but, how do I mount a CD?06:03
abattoirubuntu: grub and xfs dont like living together...06:03
abattoirubuntu: its a known bug 4784806:04
DaSkreech||Trayer||: Normally you just put it in and it comes up on the Desktop06:04
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abattoirubuntu: choose another filesystem type, like reiserfs06:04
||Trayer||DaSkreech: It does, but then it disappears a few seconds later06:04
abattoirubuntu: so you'd have to reinstall06:04
BKajwhat's the delete cmd in konsol ?06:04
ubuntuhda: windows xp 20GB, /boot 100bm ext3, 50gb for /, 250mb for swap06:04
abattoirubuntu:  <Ubug2> Malone bug 47848 in ubiquity "should warn at partitioning stage if /boot is on XFS" [Medium,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4784806:04
||Trayer||Is there any way to mount it yourself?06:05
knapperHelp. When I boot up I no longer get to KDM, I just have a text login. I tried reinstalling KDM, but that didn't fix it.06:05
ubuntuthe root partition is xfs but the /boot partition is EXT306:05
abattoirubuntu: oh so /boot is not XFS?06:05
DaSkreech||Trayer||: Strange :) does it turn up in /media06:05
ubuntu /boot is ext306:05
CornelliusUbuntu: How many RAM you have ?06:05
abattoirubuntu: do you know what the error in the logs is?06:05
BKaj!Konsole commands06:05
ubotuI know nothing about Konsole commands - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:05
ubuntu1 GB 256MB06:05
||Trayer||DaSkreech: I'm seeing cdrom0, and cdrom as a shortcut06:05
DaSkreech||Trayer||:  Try clicking on cdrom?06:06
||Trayer|| they are BOTH appearing empty06:06
DaSkreechOr better right click and see if you get a mount option06:06
ubuntuabattoir: where is the log06:06
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DaSkreechI assume then that this is a non empty CD :)06:06
teelittleBKaj: delete files with "rm"06:06
||Trayer||Yep, it's installation disk two of unreal tournament06:06
BKajthx teelittle06:07
DaSkreechHmm I recall that having a bug06:07
ubuntui can't access any of the hard disks in system:// all i get is: mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab06:07
||Trayer||it shows up on desktop for a split second06:07
||Trayer||then disapears06:07
DaSkreechubuntu: It's probably not in the fstab then06:08
abattoirubuntu: try 'sudo mkdir /media/hda1' and then 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1'06:08
DaSkreech||Trayer||: Other Cds Mount ok?06:08
DaSkreechabattoir: eek!06:08
abattoirDaSkreech: he's on the livecd06:08
DaSkreechabattoir: Ok :)06:08
||Trayer|| DaSkreech: The first one did, and my music one did.  I think it might just be my drive, I'll put it in my other one06:08
knapperHelp. When I boot up I no longer get to KDM, I just have a text login. I tried reinstalling KDM, but that didn't fix it.06:09
ubuntuabattoir: that worked06:09
||Trayer|| Problem solved.  My drive must be dead06:09
abattoirubuntu: cool :)06:09
DaSkreech||Trayer||: No I'm actually pretty sure I recall a bug with the UT Cdsand Linux06:09
DaSkreech I think they fixed the DVD06:09
||Trayer||Ah, I still have the CD versions06:09
DaSkreech||Trayer||: You can mount it explictly if you like06:09
||Trayer||So, I think that it just was that CD drive for THAT program, other ones work in there06:09
abattoirubuntu: paste the contents of /var/installer/syslong in pastebin06:10
abattoir!pastebin > ubuntu06:10
||Trayer||it worked, I had to put it in my second cd drive06:10
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ubuntuok06:10
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||Trayer||I asked this yesterday but had no luck, how does one change their static IP adress on their network in kubuntu06:10
knapperAnyone?06:11
abattoiruser-land: was it the KDE-login thing that you told me worked?06:11
KaiserSuse||Trayer||: with the System Settings06:11
teelittle||Trayer||: some /etc/... files?06:11
KaiserSuse||Trayer||: or /etc/network/interfaces06:11
||Trayer|| KaiserSuse: Where in the system settings, I took a quick look and couldn't find anything?06:12
abattoirknapper: a root login?06:12
teelittleknapper: hmmm, did you check your startup skripts? => /etc/init.d/...06:12
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jknotzkeHi everyone06:13
KaiserSuseSystem Settings -> Network Settings, click Administrator Mode06:13
jknotzkeanyone here gotten gnucash and aqbanking to work ?06:13
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DaSkreech||Trayer||: Ping ok It was Ut200306:13
jknotzkeor at least compile..06:13
DaSkreech||Trayer||: It's right on the k Menu06:13
knapperteelittle, I see kdm in there. Is there something I should look for?06:14
ubuntu /var/installer/syslong is not there. there is no installer folder06:14
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abattoirubuntu: oops, my mistake, /var/log/installer/syslog06:14
knapperteelittle: When I boot up it doesn't act like it even tries to start KDM, just goes to text login. Maybe it isn't being initialized.06:15
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ubuntuThe file or folder file:///var/log/installer/ does not exist.06:15
ubuntunot there either, i checked06:15
ubuntui think the installer crashed right after it gave the error06:15
abhiabattoir: nothing found in log06:15
abattoirubuntu: you did the installation process now ?06:15
abattoirubuntu: or you restarted?06:15
abattoirabhi: try startkde from the terminal then06:16
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abattoirabhi: are you using gnome/windows now ?06:16
rascal999Where can I get an exe emulator?06:16
ubuntuyea i did, i got to the part where grub was installing, then it gave a write error and crashed06:16
abattoirthe latter i suspect ;)06:16
abhii try kdm.06:16
abhiwindows06:16
abattoirubuntu: :( , we need to see the log, to see what went wrong, where it went wrong...06:16
abattoirubuntu: would there be a problem re-installing?06:17
abattoirabhi: what happened?06:17
ubuntunope06:17
abhisame problem06:17
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abattoirubuntu: i'd recommend avoiding XFS... be safe, use reiserfs06:17
abattoirubuntu: then you dont need to have a separate /boot partition :)06:18
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will_DAMNIT on the site to get the patch for UT2004 I said I was one year old by accident = \06:18
will_Now it's saved in06:18
ubuntuok why reiserfs, is it better than ext3?06:18
DaSkreech!wine > rasc06:18
abattoirabhi: so X starts w/o any error at all... you were messing around w/ XGL/Compiz by any chance?06:19
SeanTater_ubuntu reiserfs us fantastic with small files06:19
abattoirabhi: ok, you are the crossover office guy... right? :P06:19
abhino no.06:19
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abhijust to run some windows game.06:19
ubuntuSeanTater_: Ok i'll give that ago, thanks06:20
GIGANTORi thought he said crossover as well06:20
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abattoirabhi: can you try installing GDM ?06:20
abattoirabhi: and see if that works?06:20
SeanTater_ubuntu: but it shows no improvement (for me) otherwise06:20
GIGANTORapt-get install macintosh06:20
GIGANTOR;P06:20
abhiabattoir:sudo: apt-get install gdm.06:20
GIGANTORoh wai-  no games.06:20
abattoirabhi: 'sudo apt-get install gdm' yes :)06:20
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abhiyes yes.06:21
DaSkreech||Trayer|: I guess you are ||Trayer|| as well :)06:21
GIGANTORget to it skippy06:21
Tommy2k4!pastebin06:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:21
||Trayer| Oops = \, I need to get a steady nick name06:21
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abhigoing for it. thanks abattoir.06:21
||Trayer|Yeah, I have another window open, somewhere >_>;06:21
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abattoirabhi: since, there is no specific error message/scenario, i cant say something specific either, we can only try... :)06:22
iqonall of a sudden (after a reboot) my system fonts are huge...could the font dpi have changed, is there a way to set that?06:23
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abattoiriqon: you 'upgraded' or dist-upgraded?06:23
iqondist-upgraded a few months ago06:24
iqoni was playing with fireglcontrolpanel, i'm not sure if that was the culprit or not06:24
abattoiriqon: you could probably change in kcontrol06:24
abattoiriqon: oh, i have no idea about that06:24
abattoiriqon: i'd suggest playing around w/ the Fonts section in Kcontrol06:25
DaSkreech||Trayer||: Found it?06:25
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iqonabattoir: all of my font's are set the same as they used to be, but they are still huge...06:26
iqonabattoir: i can't seem to find a dpi setting in kcontrol06:26
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abattoiriqon: well, am not sure, try reducing the size if you want, or see fireglcontrolpanel ;)06:27
teelittleHi, does anybody know about X.org input device 168?06:28
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teelittleevery X app print out warnings that this device couldn't be found upon startup...06:28
Tommy2k4teelittle, comment out the 3 wacom devices in xorg.conf and the 3 references to them at the bottom of the file aswell06:28
teelittleTommy2k4: wow, I was looking for such a precise answer (and had in mind that it was something about unusual devices...)06:29
Tommy2k4np06:30
Tommy2k4had the same problem for ages myself06:30
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abattoirhmmm... the lull before the storm... :P06:31
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Hawkwindteelittle: I've documented the fix here on my forums:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.006:33
abattoirHawkwind: you have to register to view? :(06:33
Hawkwindabattoir: Yeah.  I'm going to fix that a bit later today06:33
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Hawkwindabattoir: I just switched forum apps and it did that to me.  I haven't gotten around to fixing it06:34
abattoiroh, cool :)06:34
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(abattoir/#kubuntu) i was wondering why there hadnt been a split today06:34
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(ubuntu/#kubuntu) wow06:34
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(abattoir/#kubuntu) Hawkwind: hehe, sure :)06:35
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(ubuntu/#kubuntu) how come so many are joining?06:35
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Hawkwindubuntu: Net split06:35
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ubuntuHawkwind: and that means???06:35
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Hawkwindubuntu: google.com and type    define:netsplit06:35
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ubuntuHawkwind: does that mean freenode switched us to a different node?06:36
HawkwindNo06:36
ubuntuthe node restarted?06:37
ubuntu crashed?06:37
Tommy2k4there was a break in the link between 2 nodes06:37
Tommy2k4well, between 1 node and the rest of the network i think06:37
ubuntuoh06:37
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ubuntuNetsplit? again?06:41
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abattoirwell, i was disconnected, so must have been my server06:42
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ubuntuthis is cool06:42
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Skamanhey guys strange thing happens...i'm trying to let my d-link usb wifi card work...well it's working and connected..i can ping my router and my other pc but i can't access the net....06:42
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abattoirubuntu: hehe06:42
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abattoirSkaman: i think it'd be best to wait for this to settle06:43
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abattoirSkaman: try 'sudo ifup ethX' where ethX is your interface06:43
Skamanabattoir: i had to set a linux driver and wifi works..even with wpa-psk06:43
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ubuntucan your other PC connect to the internet?06:44
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Skamanyes06:44
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ubuntuoh wait stupid question06:44
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Skamanand i can oping em06:44
abattoirSkaman: oh, so it doesnt work *only* with your router?06:44
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Skamanabattoir: i can ping my router and access to it, i can ping and connect to my other pcs but can't access to the network06:45
abattoirSkaman: has wifi worked elsewhere?06:45
abattoirSkaman: did you try ifup ?06:45
Skamanyes i have 5 pcs06:45
Skamanall connected06:45
Skamaneven this one06:45
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abattoirSkaman: no, i mean, in linux, have you tried connecting to another network using your card?06:46
abattoirwhat about ifup?06:46
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mimmuis this some cind of comp chat?? :D06:46
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abattoirSkaman: or is it the first time you are trying wifi... in linux ?06:46
Skamani was connected be4 when wpa was off06:46
timbimi need help setting up kubuntu06:47
Skamanis the first time!06:47
abattoirSkaman: ok, did you try ifup?06:47
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timbimim using a dell e1405 and everytime it gets to x-server it just shows to white rectangles then it flashes back to to the install logo and hangs06:47
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abattoirtimbim: this is with the livecd?06:47
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timbimboth06:47
timbimi actually installed it with alternate cd06:48
timbimgrub and everythng works fine06:48
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abattoirtimbim: if it is the livecd, try booting in the 'safe' mode thing...06:48
timbimthen when i get to the load kubuntu once it get to x-server or w/e it just flashes i see two white pixels and it wont work06:48
abattoiroh, there seems to be a big lag06:48
timbimi think ive tried that06:48
Skamanabattoir i tried : tells me: Ignoring unknown interface rausb0=rausb006:49
abattoirtimbim: what video card?06:49
iqonwhen using kcontrol -> "GTK styles and fonts" to change "GTK Fonts" my changes aren't being saved, any idea what could cause this?06:49
timbim found something on the internete about typing install debian-installer/framebuffer=false06:49
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timbimbut i dont know where to type that06:49
timbimit says type at book06:49
abattoirSkaman: ok, open up /etc/network/interfaces06:49
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abattoirtimbim: boot ?06:50
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timbimwhre is boot on the live cid06:50
Skamanabattoir ok06:50
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timbimit jus says start or install kubuntu or start in safe mode06:50
timbimbut i dont c anywer to type that command in06:50
ronaldholas06:51
abattoirtimbim: there is an option in the initial boot menu... where you can pass boot parameters06:51
Skamanok i'm there abattoir06:51
abattoirone of the F keys, iirc06:51
abattoirSkaman: just a sec06:51
timbimwhen i hit f606:51
Skaman;)06:51
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timbimboot comes upp, but there is already stuff there06:51
ubuntuabattoir: there is no reiserfs in the list06:51
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timbimfolowwed --06:51
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timbimso do i just type install debian-installer/framebuffer=false after those dahses06:52
abattoirSkaman: could you please pastebin it ?06:52
abattoir!pastebin06:52
timbimcuz ive tried it and it doesnt seem to work06:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:52
abattoiris ubotu here?06:52
abattoiraah cool06:52
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Skamanabattoir ok06:52
Skamanjust a sec06:52
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abattoirtimbim: i dont know, if wherever you read it says that, it might be worth trying out06:52
||Trayer||Can anyone help? I'm installing the Ut2k4 patch, and you just extract a bunch of files to the /usr/local/games/ut2004 folder, but in ark it says cannot extract to that folder06:52
abattoirubuntu: hmm there isnt?06:52
timbimi just dont know where to type that command06:53
timbimthere is already stuff in boot06:53
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timbimand i dont know if just type it after or what06:53
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ubuntuabattoir: not there, i remeber you had to mess with the options in breezy to get it as an option06:53
||Trayer||dont have permission or something06:53
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timbimnvm that safe graphics thng worked06:54
timbimthanks06:54
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iqonafter playing with qtcontrol and fireglcontrolpanel my fonts became HUGE, any idea what i could have done - or what i can do to fix it?06:54
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_marshallwhat is firegl?06:54
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abattoirubuntu: yes, now i remember, it wasnt there... :( i did it manually... sorry, i forgot06:54
iqoner qtcontrol -> qtconfig06:54
Skamanabattoir: http://rafb.net/paste/results/L7Jwjm74.html06:55
abattoirubuntu: you want to do it manually?06:55
iqonan ati driver control panel06:55
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abattoirSkaman: you cant edit the pastes there? :(06:56
abattoirSkaman: ok, nvm, type what i say into the file06:56
ubuntuabattoir: might as well06:56
abattoirSkaman: your interface is ath0 ?06:56
Skamanus rausb006:57
abattoirubuntu: ok, you have done the partitioning right?06:57
Skamanthe problem is that i'm loading it manually06:57
ubuntuyea06:57
abattoirubuntu: what is the device name for / ?06:57
Skamani have no idea to how make it load by default06:57
iqonis it possible to change the dpi of fonts in kde?06:57
ubuntuabattoir: let me chek06:57
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ubuntuabattoir: let me check06:57
abattoirSkaman: add 'auto rausb0' and in the next line 'iface rausb0 inet dhcp'06:58
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ubuntuabattoir: hda606:58
abattoirSkaman: similar stuff already exists... so you know how to do it06:58
ubuntuis it reiser4?06:58
abattoirubuntu: the command is 'mkreiserfs /dev/hda6' then ...06:59
abattoirubuntu: you are sure right?06:59
ubuntuyea06:59
abattoirenter that in a terminal06:59
ubuntuabattoir: i can always reinstall everying06:59
abattoiryou will need to unmount it... if you have mounted it06:59
ubuntuwhy do i always screw up on typing07:00
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abattoirok, then that's cool, you can play around all you want ;)07:00
Skamanabattoir i edit that and then i have to reboot?07:00
abattoirSkaman: save, and yes reboot... your usb driver module is loaded automatically right?07:00
abattoirSkaman:07:00
abattoirSkaman: now, ifup should work07:01
abattoirSkaman: and you should be able to connect07:01
Skamanahh07:01
Skamank07:01
Skamannow works!07:01
Skamanthanks!07:01
abattoirSkaman: cool :)07:01
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Skamanabattoir07:01
abattoirubuntu: done ?07:01
ubuntuabattoir: do i still need a separate /boot?07:02
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Skamancan you help me for the next little step?07:02
abattoirubuntu: no, not necessary07:02
abattoirSkaman: if i can, sure07:02
ubuntuok well i'll repartition07:02
Skamani'm loading the driver manually07:02
Skamanbut i'd like to be loaded at startup07:02
abattoirSkaman: what is the command?07:02
voltroxhi07:02
Skamana sec07:02
_ubuntuerm... what's the option to install 5.10 from the livedvd once you've booted to it?07:02
||Trayer||Anyone know what file/command I need to use to run ut2k4 on ubuntu? It's installed to \usr\local\games\ut200407:02
Skamani give you07:02
||Trayer||*kubuntu07:02
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Skamanabattoir is: /sbin/insmod rt73.ko07:03
ubuntu||Trayer||: when i installed it i removed the local from stuff, so i think /usr/local/bin/ut2004 will work07:04
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abattoirSkaman: try adding the module to /etc/modules07:04
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||Trayer||ubuntu: My user local bin is empty, No files.07:05
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||Trayer|| and for some reason I have no desktop icon/not appearing in games.  Though all the files are there07:05
abattoirsamo: i dont think such an option exists...07:05
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Skaman_abattoir what if i try making : "cp rt73.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/net"  ???07:05
abattoirSkaman: hmmm, and then do a 'sudo depmod -a' might work, though i havent personally tried something like that07:06
bsanfordHello07:06
||Trayer||How do I use a .run file?07:06
samoarrrggghhh.... I think I f*cked up lilo and I can't run the 6.06 live dvd, it looses video07:06
Skaman_or what do you suggest me?07:06
abattoir||Trayer||: sh ./file.run ?07:07
aliasfredq. is kitten/striggi packaged for kubuntu ?07:07
abattoirsamo: i'm sure there is a text installer in the DVD07:07
Skamani've read it here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190422&highlight=rt7307:07
abattoirSkaman: sure, you can try that :)07:07
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abattoirSkaman: or put it somewhere in /etc/modprobe.d ... wait i'll search07:08
Skaman_and i have to insert rt73 in /etc/modules right?07:08
abattoirSkaman_: yes, that sounds right...07:09
tokaHow can I activate the SPDIF output? Asus A8N-SLI SE . ? REALTEK ALC85007:09
Skaman_let me try a reboot07:09
Skaman__D07:09
ubuntuI'll be back after reinstalling windows to try an reinstall kubuntu again, so i don't have to replace grub if ubuntu installs second07:09
abattoirSkaman_: or, you could also write a script and put it in /etc/init.d07:10
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Skaman_ok i've tried the first way....BRB07:10
Skaman_:D07:10
||Trayer||How do I run UT2004? It's fully installed and I just updated my drivers07:10
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flakedoes changing the virtual starting IP pool on your router from 192.168.2.2  to 192.168.2.x do anything for security on a client multiplayer game machine?07:11
flakeis dmz recommended to help get alleviate the lag?07:11
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(andrea/#kubuntu) grazie07:14
(abattoir/#kubuntu) andrea: prego :)07:15
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(DaSkreech/#kubuntu) ah Mia of course! :007:15
(Skaman/#kubuntu) abettoir: doesn't work07:15
(Skaman/#kubuntu) :(07:15
(abattoir/#kubuntu) Skaman: which one?07:15
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Skamanmortacc07:15
abattoirmoracc ?07:15
abattoir*ugh mortacc ?07:16
Skaman:D07:16
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abattoir /etc/modules ?07:16
||Trayer||Augh! I cant figure out what the hell i need to run to run UT, everyone just says it's on their desktop!07:16
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Skamanif i give: modprobe rt73 : FATAL module rt73 not found07:16
Skaman:(07:16
GIGANTORisn't07:17
GIGANTORer07:17
abattoirSkaman: hmm.. then i guess it needs to be a listed module07:17
GIGANTORisn't xserver-xorg a command to let you tweak your vid settings?07:17
abattoirSkaman: what about adding a script07:17
Skamanlet's see if still work loading it manually07:17
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abattoirGIGANTOR: nope, its a package07:17
Skamani' think i'm too newbie to add a script myself07:17
abattoirGIGANTOR: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is :)07:17
GIGANTORwhat is it i'm thinking of then... hmm..07:17
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GIGANTORthere's something that lets you tweak your settings at command line07:18
abattoirSkaman: no, just put the commands in a file, and it becomes a script :)07:18
GIGANTORmaybe thats the answer aba, hmm07:18
GIGANTORyeah, that is it07:18
GIGANTOR;)07:18
abattoiri'm sure someone here knows more..07:18
abattoiranyway i'll look up wait07:19
Skamanbut..07:19
Skamanthe cmd07:19
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Skamanwait07:19
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abattoirSkaman what if you add the full path of the module ?07:19
GIGANTOR!CLI07:20
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands07:20
GIGANTORbah07:20
Skamani'm loading it manually from the folder of the driver07:20
GIGANTORbot is loading like it's a bit hungover today07:21
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alcosmurfanyone got any idea how i debug a system that completly freezes for no apparant reason?07:21
n3stormalcosmurf: first check /var/log/error messages07:22
Skaman_abattoir now is on /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/net why it doesn't load07:22
Skaman_??07:22
alcosmurfgone frew nearly all logs.. nothing looks odd.. it just stops07:22
||Trayer||Can someone give me the command to run linux-installer.sh on my cd again?07:22
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abattoirSkaman: i think a list of modules to load is stored somewhere, and just because you put it in the folder, it wont get loaded... that's what i can think of07:23
Skaman_abattoir maybe i have to put it in "/lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/drivers/usb/net"07:23
abattoirSkaman: you ran 'sudo depmod -a' ?07:23
domHi, I'm having problems with KMail.  I can't seem to decrypt PGP encrypted messages.  Checking signatures works fine but I can't decrypt anything.  Even messages I send encrypted to myself.  Yet all these same messages decrypt properly with Thunderbird/Enigmail07:23
domwtf?07:23
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abattoirSkaman_: hmmm, you can try that...07:23
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Skaman_abattoir no07:23
Skaman_but i even don't know what it does07:23
abattoirSkaman: oh, i asked you to do that...07:24
abattoiri think it updates the kernel's modules list07:24
abattoirafaik07:24
Skaman_sry din't read u07:24
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Skaman_now i've run it07:24
Skaman_no output07:24
abattoir[22:35:58]  <Skaman_> abattoir what if i try making : "cp rt73.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/net"  ???07:25
abattoir[22:36:34]  <abattoir> Skaman: hmmm, and then do a 'sudo depmod -a' might work, though i havent personally tried something like that07:25
abattoir:P07:25
abattoirwell, that's good then07:25
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abattoirtry restarting, see if the module is loaded07:25
Johncro13hello again, room.07:25
Johncro13I'm despirate.07:25
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Skaman_i reboot07:26
Skaman_let's see07:26
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pc04somebody Spanish speak??07:28
Johncro13x won't start for me.07:28
abattoir!es07:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:28
pc04Muchas gracias!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:29
Johncro13libxdmcp6 Depends07:29
Johncro13x11-common07:29
Skamanit works!!07:29
abattoirpc04: de nada :)07:29
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abattoirSkaman: nice :)07:29
Johncro13unmet dependancy error, etc, etc...07:30
Johncro13anybody know about this?07:30
Skamanabattoir don't know if it's "sudo depmod -a" or copying the driver in the right place but now works!!07:30
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Skamanthank you so much!07:30
abattoirSkaman: i'd say depmod :P07:30
abattoirSkaman: no problem :)07:31
NiunioHello. I need help to configure an Epson parport scanner.07:32
Skamanbut i rebooted the forst time07:32
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Skamani'll take a tour of "man depmod" to understand :D07:33
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abattoirSkaman: hehe, i should do that too. :P07:33
NiunioXSane detects my web-cam but it doesn't detect my Epson scanner...07:33
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NiunioNobody helps me?07:36
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pichihello07:38
Skamanabattoir07:38
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Skamani think that worked because the driver goues under /drivers/usb/net/07:39
Skamanin fact the driver for another wifi card i know is there07:39
Skaman:D07:39
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DaSkreechalcosmurf: I'd install a SSH server and ssh in07:40
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abattoirSkaman: now that i've read 'man depmod' i am even more convinced it was depmod which did the trick ;007:40
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abattoir;)07:40
Schamane_hi07:41
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abattoirSkaman: depmod is what kinda 'indexes' the modules which are under /lib/modules/$kernel07:41
NiunioSigh... Nobody wants to help me...07:41
abattoirSkaman: so even if you place it there/ remove it from there... w/o running depmod, it wont have an effect07:42
abattoirNiunio: hmmm.. i have no clue about that... sorry07:42
DaSkreechNiunio: Maybe no one can right now07:42
abattoirNiunio: Kooka automatically detects my hp scanner, that's all i know, sorry07:43
DaSkreechNiunio: If you like you can ask in #ubuntu it's not really a KDE related issue and there are more people in there07:43
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NiunioOkis, thanks07:43
NiunioI'll try.07:44
Skamanahhh ok07:44
Skaman:D07:44
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AntiCasp3rhi@ll07:44
DaSkreechAntiCasp3r: Wendy?07:44
AntiCasp3rpardon?07:44
AntiCasp3ri am new here07:44
DaSkreechAnti Casper07:44
DaSkreechThe friendly Ghost?07:44
ralfhi, I just changed from ubuntu to kubuntu. Can someone tell me how to create a personal folder link on the desktop? If I do "Link to location" with /home/ralf the icon will just be a boring white paper07:44
abattoirDaSkreech: hehe07:45
AntiCasp3rlol07:45
DaSkreechralf: You can change the Icon AIR07:45
AntiCasp3ris some german here?07:45
abattoir!de07:45
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:45
DaSkreech!gr07:45
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr   07:45
DaSkreechDoh07:45
abattoirDaSkreech: that's greek :)07:45
DaSkreechWell Duh! :)07:45
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AntiCasp3rok07:46
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abattoirralf: you want to create a link on your desktop, back to your home?07:46
ralfabattoir: yes07:46
DaSkreech||Trayer||: yo07:46
ralfabattoir: it worked, I created it manually and changed the icon07:47
||Trayer|| DaSkreech: wurd.07:47
abattoirralf: oh, it was the 'boring' icon that bothered you ;)07:47
ralfabattoir: I just thought maybe I can drag and drop the menu item07:47
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abattoirralf: sure, you can do that07:48
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||Trayer||my "sudo sh /media/cdrom/linux-installer.sh" command isn't working, it says no such file or directory.  I got the CD it's on mounted, What gives?07:48
abattoirralf: when you do that you'll be asked if you want to move it, copy it link it etc.07:48
DaSkreechCheck that that's the right path07:49
ralfabattoir: the link was in the system-menu. I tried to drag and drop, but it didn't work07:50
v3ctoralso check case07:50
abattoirralf, it does for me, you are dropping it on the desktop right? It comes up w/ a menu... asking if you want to copy it, move it, link it etc.07:51
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DaSkreech||Trayer||: Check that it's the right path07:51
abattoirralf: works?07:52
||Trayer|| DaSkreech: The file name seems to match exactly, though I did a cd /media/cdrom and ls, it was empty.  Is there any other possible paths it could of mounted to...?07:52
ralfabattoir: if i klick and hold left mouse button, nothing happens (as i said, not in the k-menu, but in the system-menu)07:52
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DaSkreech||Trayer||: Cdroms are strange sometimes.07:53
erik_Hi! When I boot I get all kinds of messages, it seems to me as if it's trying to do all this stuff before the root fs is remounted rw07:53
abattoirralf: oh, in the panel? next to the Kmenu button?07:53
ralfabattoir: yes07:53
DaSkreechI had a few that would not mount until Iclicked on them in Konqueror07:53
erik_I can't see them all but it's like "Can't create inetd.conf read only filesystem"07:53
||Trayer||I'll try that then07:53
cpk2||Trayer||: do a ls in /media/07:53
abattoirralf: can you try from the Kmenu? you have an entry?07:54
DaSkreechcpk2: There is a cdrom and cdrom0 In there07:54
cpk2||Trayer||: i had a cd drive that was a burner and was listed as two things07:54
erik_I think it's only the basic networking that goes off before the fs is remounted07:54
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erik_How would I go about changing that?07:54
abattoirralf: or you can just open up /home in konqueror... drag ralf from there to the desktop and link it07:54
||Trayer|| cpk2: My Ls turned upcdrom cdrom0 and hdb.  Right now it is in my cd/dvd reader/player, Not in my burner.  Should I try the burner now?07:54
abattoirralf: and you can change the icon :)07:55
cpk2DaSkreech: then he should probably check cdrom0 eh? =p07:55
DaSkreechcpk2: So it seems :)07:55
ralfabattoir: ok and how can i move e.g. the network icon to the desktop?07:55
cpk2||Trayer||: you sure you know which is which in /media/07:55
_JPgrub's "menu.lst" is overwritten always when i update kernel. where/how do i conf grub defaults?07:55
||Trayer|| cpk2: Fairly07:55
cpk2||Trayer||: well did you try mounting cdrom0?07:56
abattoirralf: network icon? sorry i dont have the default setup, so dont exactly know what you are referring to07:56
||Trayer|| cpk2&DaSkreech: In the hdb folder is my UT2k4 Cd, all the files are showing up in an LS.  It shows mounted on my desktop07:56
abattoirralf: what does it do when you click it? what does it open?07:57
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cpk2||Trayer||: is that the cd you are lopoking for?07:57
ralfabattoir: system:/remote  oh well, thats the answer :)07:57
DaSkreech||Trayer||: Umm ok :) Well then try sh /media/hdb/linux-installer.sh07:57
||Trayer|| cpk2: That it is, It's strange where it mounted to = \.07:58
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abattoirralf: rt. click on the desktop -> Create new link -> uRL -> system:/remote07:58
abattoirralf: you should get a good icon too :P07:58
kOpterYello :) I've got a really dumb problem... I'm missing my Location / Edit / View buttons at the top of my Konqueror...07:58
DaSkreechI take it that hdb is your Cdrom?07:58
ralfabattor: yes :)  thanks for help07:58
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DaSkreechkOpter: Try Ctrl+M07:58
cpk2||Trayer||: strange is having to mount a cd as /media/cdrom if you arent burning something and then as /media/cdrecorder if you are when its the same drive...07:58
ubuntu&j pepe07:59
abattoirok, i'm taking a break. :)07:59
||Trayer||DaKreech Yep, it is.07:59
kOpterDaSkreech: Ok :) Why does that work :)?07:59
DaSkreechkOpter: It's a KDE Kommand thingy07:59
DaSkreechWorks on most apps07:59
kOpterThanks :)07:59
abattoirkOpter: because KDE is super-awesome? :P07:59
DaSkreechabattoir: It's bekause :)07:59
abattoirDaSkreech: indeed, my mistake :)08:00
DaSkreechOk Something is horribly wrong with Amarok08:01
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abattoirDaSkreech: mp3 doesnt work out of the box? :P ;)08:02
||Trayer|| So, No one knows what file I need to launch UT2k4? So I guess I'm stuck re-installing so it makes the desktop icon?08:02
DaSkreech:-P08:02
DaSkreech||Trayer||: Where did install to?08:02
abattoir||Trayer||: why dont you make the shortcut yourself?08:02
DaSkreechAnytime I try to stream something amarok freezes up08:03
||Trayer|| DaSkreech&Abattoir: I'm not sure which file is the actual game it self08:03
DaSkreechabattoir: I don't think he knows what to link it to08:03
abattoirDaSkreech: 1.4.1 ?08:03
DaSkreechabattoir: si08:03
||Trayer|| DaSkreech: It is installed to /usr/local/games/ut200408:03
abattoir||Trayer||: you chose the default installation settings?08:03
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DaSkreechOk It started playing after 15 minutes08:04
||Trayer|| abattoir: Yep08:04
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abattoir||Trayer||: have you tried the command ut2004 ?08:04
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||Trayer|| abattoir: Launching up console and trying08:05
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||Trayer|| abattoir: ut2004, and the result: "bash: ut2004: command not found"08:05
abattoirheh, ok, wait up08:05
abattoiryou checked /usr/local/games/ut2004 for an executable ?08:06
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||Trayer|| abattoir: A few times, I'm not sure which file formats are executable for Linux to be honest.08:07
Bomburwhy08:07
abattoirdo a locate on ut2004.bin08:07
Bomburno08:07
||Trayer|| abattoir: Launching Konqueror08:07
abattoir||Trayer||: you kio-locate08:07
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Bomburwhy08:07
abattoirsorry, try :)08:07
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abattoirBombur: wth?08:07
||Trayer||C%4 abattoir: The locate returned 0 files, Should I search the folders for a bin?08:08
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abattoirhmm.. yes08:08
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abattoirsee under the system directory08:09
DaSkreechabattoir: Sure it's a .bin ?08:09
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abattoirDaSkreech: Uncle google seems to think so :P08:09
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||Trayer|| abattoir: I did a search int he system folder for "*.bin" and no results08:10
Bomburwhy08:10
abattoir||Trayer||: but is there a ut2004 file there ?08:10
|lostbyte|hi ! everyone..08:10
Bomburno08:10
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abattoiri mean the system directory under the ut2004 directory08:10
DaSkreechtry a ls -r /usr/local/*.bin08:11
abattoirBombur: are you a bot ?08:11
DaSkreech!kops08:11
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak08:11
||Trayer|| abattoir: Yeah, There is a /usr/local/games/ut2004/system08:11
abattoir||Trayer||: under that08:11
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abattoiris there a .bin or ut2004 ?08:11
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||Trayer||In the main folder the only executable is the uninstall file, and checking system now08:12
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naliothDaSkreech: yes?08:13
Schamane_HI08:13
DaSkreechCan we get Bombur muted?08:13
DaSkreechHi Schamane_08:13
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||Trayer|| abattoir: Not that I can see, atleast not color coded08:13
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abattoir||Trayer||: hmmm, the installation process was completed successfully?08:14
DaSkreechnalioth: Thanks08:14
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||Trayer|| abattoir: As far as I know, I think I should re-install08:14
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abattoir||Trayer||: i think too08:15
abattoiri mean, i think you should too :P08:15
||Trayer|| abattoir: Though, Is it safe without removing the old files first?08:15
abattoiryou told me there is an uninstall script... use that :008:15
abattoir:)08:15
||Trayer||:O Genious08:15
linuxmonkeyhow do i set my clock to show GMT?08:15
abattoirlinuxmonkey: rt. click on the clock -> Adjust time08:17
abattoir'date and time' in fact08:17
abattoiryou can have it show multiple timezones too if you want08:18
||Trayer||Gunna sound stupid, How do I run the uninstall script? Location: "/usr/local/games/ut2004/uninstall"08:18
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linuxmonkeyyeah its what i did for other timezones but cant find GMT08:18
abattoirlinuxmonkey: its called UTC08:18
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linuxmonkeynot the same08:18
abattoir||Trayer||: like how you ran the install script? :P08:19
abattoirw/ sudo ?08:19
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abattoirlinuxmonkey: its not the same?08:19
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||Trayer||Well, I tried ./uninstall in the folder, and sudo ./uninstall.08:19
slow-motionbrb08:19
abattoirsudo sh ./uninstall ?08:20
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linuxmonkeyoh nvm08:20
abattoirin the folder i.e08:20
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||Trayer||Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting08:20
||Trayer||Over-installing it is!08:20
hardw1reAfternoon/Evening all08:20
Bomburwhy08:20
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abattoirhow did this bot come back?08:21
BlankB!azureus08:21
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo08:21
abattoira java bot?08:21
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hardw1reAnyone familiar with getting the latest aMSN to work on an AMD 64 kernel kubuntu?08:21
||Trayer||I just use Kopete :O08:21
abattoirhardw1re: you are using the deb fro the repo08:21
hardw1rewhich repo?08:22
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abattoir!info amsn08:22
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ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB08:22
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abattoirhardw1re: enable universe08:22
abattoir!universe08:22
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:22
hardw1reno i was trying to use the source version from the sourceforge project site08:22
DaSkreechnalioth: can you not kick it but just mute it?08:22
Bomburwhy08:22
abattoirhardw1re: easier to use the deb, if you ask me :)08:23
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abattoirsame version right?08:23
hardw1rei seem to be having the gcc problem ppl are talking about08:23
abattoirhardw1re: you dont have gcc installed ?08:23
hardw1rei do08:23
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abattoirthen, what's the problem?08:23
hardw1rechecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables08:23
abattoirdo you have all the packages needed for compiling08:23
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abattoirhmmm, i'd suggest you use the deb08:24
ubuntuhello guys08:24
abattoirbut if you still want to compile, install build-essential08:24
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abattoir!info build-essential08:24
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB08:24
hardw1retis been a year since i've used ubuntu...08:24
naliothhardw1re: that is not a "gcc" problem but sometimes a ./configure problem08:24
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LVADERhello guys08:24
abattoir!build-essential08:24
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:24
LVADERi need help on installing kubuntu08:24
LVADERi need to knw how can i have separate /boot partition08:24
LVADERhow am i suppose to label them08:25
||Trayer|| Use the force08:25
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hardw1rei use to be able to do the apt commands from konsole, and now ive completely forggotten how to work it lol08:25
abattoirheh, LVADER, using an XFS partition for / ?08:25
LVADERany help on this08:25
LVADERhavent yet08:25
LVADERi'm at the preparing the partitions stage08:25
abattoirhardw1re: follow the instructions ubotu gave you08:26
LVADERi wanna create a /boot partition08:26
abattoirLVADER: a separate boot partition is not necessary unless you choose XFS for / .08:26
abattoirLVADER: however, if you know what you are doing, then just create it like any other partition08:26
LVADERbut i'm planning to have other OS on my pc08:26
abattoirformat as ext3 or something, but not XFS08:27
abattoirLVADER: windows?08:27
LVADERabattoir: how am i going to create them08:27
LVADERthe label thing is not labelling them08:27
LVADERfor sure not that shitty OS08:27
LVADERi wanna install gentoo and solaris later if possible08:27
hardw1re:|08:27
hardw1rewhy have so many different distros?08:28
abattoirLVADER: afaik,  a separate /boot is not really needed unless you use XFS for /08:28
abattoirbecause grub and XFS have issues08:28
LVADERabattoir: okie, but i have to store my kernel images there if i were to have other OS08:28
LVADERi need to place my grub there08:28
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||Trayer|| I dunno, I used to be on gentoo linux because it had support to play WoW, But I heard it's been done on ubuntu to08:28
hardw1reit has?08:29
hardw1reooooh i think i shall install wow while i wait for css to download08:29
abattoirLVADER: if you are sure about what you are doing.. then its ok08:29
LVADER||Trayer||: u use gentoo before?08:29
abattoirLVADER: are you using the livecd ?08:29
||Trayer|| LVADER: Just a little08:29
LVADERabattoir: i'm sure of what i'm doing08:29
LVADERyes, i'm using rite now08:30
LVADERjust i dunno how to lay the partition08:30
LVADERinstalling on a fresh hdd08:30
abattoirok, in the partitioning stage, create a new partition... format it as ext308:30
LVADERabattoir: okie08:30
abattoirLVADER: there is a nice graphical partitioning stage in the installer08:30
abattoirit incorporates Qtparted08:30
||Trayer|| For anyone who wants to play WoW On Ubuntu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12061508:30
LVADERabattoir: okie..i'm at it08:31
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hardw1recheers ||Trayer||08:31
abattoirLVADER: well, its pretty much self explanatory isnt it?08:31
LVADERhow am i going to label the ext3 partition as /boot08:31
abattoirLVADER: mountpoint would be /boot08:31
LVADERabattoir: okie08:31
abattoiryou'll have that option08:32
LVADERlet me play for awhile08:32
abattoirhmmm, i'm really taking a break now....08:32
abattoirwill watch a movie before getting back to work :)08:32
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abattoirbye08:32
LVADERbye08:32
hardw1re||Trayer||: can WoW not be run from Cedega?08:32
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BlankB!xen08:33
ubotuxen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/08:33
||Trayer|| hardw1re: I'd assume, but I have never tried.  I Had it running with wine on gentoo, and now I'm getting it on ubuntu.  I'd assume as Cedega is a recoding of wine geard towards game08:34
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hardw1reyeah i have a cedega/transgaming account08:34
hardw1rei'll give it a go08:34
LVADERcan anyone tell me how space does a fresh install of ubuntu will take?08:34
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ralf_Is there link like "Show Desktop" in Windows (it should hide all windows and show the desktop)?08:35
hardw1reumm well i think it needs a minimum of 2gb ?08:35
DaSkreechralf_: Alt+Ctrl+D08:35
LVADERcause i'm thinking of giving a 5gb to it08:35
||Trayer||Oooh thanks DasKreech I didn't know that :O08:35
ralf_oh nice :)08:35
LVADERand i might install dome development tools..08:35
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LVADERfor programming, web development stuffs08:36
hardw1rewell i have 512mb swap, 2gb / 16gb /home etc08:36
vgeralf_: Windows has the "SD" button08:36
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LVADERmy swap is 1gb08:36
||Trayer|| Is anyone here into game programming, and if so tested out http://www.jmonkeyengine.com ?08:36
LVADERhardw1re: how did u set the mountpoint?08:36
||Trayer|| On Kubuntu?08:36
Child4Christim installing Kubuntu on my server (for my network) is there anyway to log into it remotly without the SSH server?08:37
Kr4t05Child4Christ: Erm.... No clue.08:37
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hardw1rewell i just went to the parition editor bit in the installer and manually set it08:38
hardw1rebut are you installing ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu?08:38
Child4Christi cant hook it up to anything other than my router when i bring it in here so08:38
||Trayer||What about edubuntu :O08:38
hardw1renot tried that one lol08:38
LVADERkubuntu08:38
LVADERi dont edubuntu cds of 64bit version08:39
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||Trayer||why so many buntus,,,08:39
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LVADERhardw1re: u mean ur using ubuntu?08:39
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Child4Christhow do i install Kubuntu without KDE?08:39
LVADER||Trayer||: hhahha08:39
hardw1renah kub08:39
hardw1reyou install ubuntu instead08:39
LVADERhardw1re: aight..will try first08:39
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hardw1rei was talking to Child4Christ08:40
||Trayer||UT gave me the following error: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual08:40
vgeChild4Christ: put SERVER as startup option if im not mistaken08:40
LVADERhardw1re: i'm not a gnome guy...even gentoo i'm using a fluxbox08:40
Child4Christthe option wasnt selectable :/08:40
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hardw1reUT is native to linux though ||Trayer||?08:40
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DaSkreechChild4Christ: Are you using the alternate CD?08:41
||Trayer|| hardw1re: Yep, Linux installer right on the CDs08:41
DaSkreechAnd Mac08:41
Child4Christno just the standard one08:41
Child4Christout of cds :(08:41
DaSkreech<3 Epic08:41
DaSkreechChild4Christ: Erm. Not sure then08:41
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||Trayer||Either way, what should I do about this "Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual" error08:41
LVADERcan anyone tell me why does ubuntu does not support reiser08:41
gatekeeper_hiya DaSkreech how are you doing?08:41
DaSkreech You can install it and then use adept to remove KDElibs08:41
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LVADERatleast 3.608:41
Child4Christwould apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop do it?08:41
DaSkreechgatekeeper_: Still sick08:41
DaSkreechChild4Christ: Nope you have to do Xserver or kdelibs08:42
hardw1realthough the original UT GOTYE i had to download the installer convert thingy08:42
DaSkreechChild4Christ: Why don't you want to use the SSh Server?08:42
hardw1rewell cedega has no problems with installing wow... its doing it right now :D08:42
hardw1reprobably cause he's too lazy to learn to do everything by command line08:42
hardw1reand he needs a lovely little mouse point08:43
hardw1rewhere he can click things08:43
LVADERhardw1re: okie..manage to set all the mountpoints..thanks for your help08:43
Child4Christssh is what im gonna be using to log into it but i can only hook up the hdd itself (case and all) to the router cause there isnt any room for another monitor or anything08:43
||Trayer|| 50$ Says my issue is with video drivers.  Anyone know where/how I can set up ATI Radeon x700 drivers for linux?08:43
DaSkreechhardw1re: He just asked to remove the GUI....08:43
gatekeeper_DaSkreech: oh dear sorry to hear that08:43
hardw1reim bored08:43
DaSkreechgatekeeper_: Me too!08:44
hardw1relol08:44
DaSkreechhardw1re: Stumbleupon!08:44
hardw1re||Trayer||: rofl, no idea mate i have nvidia here <308:44
DaSkreech!ati > ||Trayer||08:44
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aliasfredabout removing package, once i got told about a tool which extract the package which are not dependancy of other. thus being able to know which one can be removed safely, anybody remember the name of this tool ?08:44
LVADERokie..anyone here using reiser fs??08:44
h3sp4wn||Trayer||: The ones from ati.com are newer (and a bit better) than the ones in dapper08:45
||Trayer|| DaSkreech: Thanks, Now, to listen to ubotu08:45
DaSkreech:-)08:45
h3sp4wnLVADER: Yes08:45
gatekeeper_evening h3sp4wn08:46
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LVADERh3sp4wn: what version08:46
LVADER4?08:46
h3sp4wn308:46
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h3sp4wn4 is horribly broken08:46
hardw1rei hate frosties and there gay advert08:46
LVADERwhat kernel do u use?08:46
LVADERwhy do you say so?08:46
h3sp4wn2.6.17.608:46
h3sp4wnLVADER: I know people who have used it and lost data (more than once)08:46
LVADERso u downloaded the kernel done the kernel config by urslef?08:46
Child4Christis Kubuntu compatable with Debian Sarge packages?08:46
LVADERbut i've used for more than one year with no problems08:47
LVADERno lockups or anything08:47
h3sp4wnreiser4 ?08:47
LVADERyup08:47
aliasfredChild4Christ: nope all package got repackaged by ubuntu08:47
h3sp4wnLVADERL: On what distro ?08:47
LVADERdon wanna start a flamewar here or but i've used it08:47
LVADERgentoo08:47
LVADERi was using the beyond sources08:48
h3sp4wnLVADER: well keep using it08:48
ralf_Is there a way to create a button hiding all windows (same as ctrl+alt+d)?08:48
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DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Were you aying something about the nVidia drivers the other day08:48
LVADERi will gotta install later08:48
DaSkreechSupporting something or toher?08:48
DaSkreechother08:48
Child4Christright so i have a lot of work to do lol bbiab gonna hook the other box up in here :S08:48
LVADERjust asking how to enable the stuff in ubuntu08:48
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: supporting xorg 7.108:48
LVADERany kernel that supports it or i have to download by itself?08:48
DaSkreechAh right08:48
h3sp4wnIts supported by the kernel08:48
DaSkreechAIGLX?08:48
abattoirralf_: rt. click on the panel -> Add aplet -> Show desktop08:49
abattoir*applet08:49
h3sp4wnLVADER: Install with debootstrap08:49
LVADERdebootstrap?08:49
h3sp4wnLVADER: None of the installers will let you install onto reiserfs 408:49
LVADERu mean when i start the livecd itself?08:49
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DaSkreechDoes Xen Support vanderpool?08:49
LVADERbut i wonder why theres no resierfs at all08:50
LVADERatleast 3 will do08:50
h3sp4wnLVADER: Search the wiki for installing from knoppix (thats the method you need to use)08:50
h3sp4wnLVADER: The kernel supports reiser fs 408:50
LVADERu mean use knoppix to install ubuntu or pure debian?08:50
LVADERh3sp4wn: but no option in the installer08:50
h3sp4wnNo08:50
LVADERh3sp4wn: the qt installer to be specific08:51
h3sp4wnLVADER: I have never used the qt installer08:51
LVADERh3sp4wn: how did u installed ur kubuntu?08:51
h3sp4wnLVADER: I know the text installer doesn't and that has more options than the qt installer08:51
Child4Christwhere can i get the ssh-server deb package?08:51
h3sp4wnLVADER: Debootstrap08:51
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h3sp4wnLVADER: Debootstra08:52
LVADERh3sp4wn: how did u do that?08:52
h3sp4wnLVADER: (but I am using the development version)08:52
DaSkreechChild4Christ: Apt-get install openssh-server08:52
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ralf_abattoir: oh, I didn't find it, because I didn't expect the german translation to be like it is08:52
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LVADERdevel version?08:52
abattoirLVADER: the qtparted inteface doesnt have an option for reiserfs, however, you can do that manually...08:52
LVADERhow does it differs from what am i going to use?08:52
Child4Christi need to have a copy of the actual .deb package for transfer08:52
h3sp4wnLVADER: Its alot more broken08:52
LVADERh3sp4wn: ooh..aight..08:52
abattoirralf_: hmmm, it is not there in the add applet list?08:52
LVADERh3sp4wn: bleeding edge u mean :D08:53
LVADERh3sp4wn: gotta restart..08:53
LVADERbubye08:53
LVADERthanks08:53
ralf_abattoir: it is, i just had to search twice08:53
abattoirralf_: oh ok :)08:53
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ralf_How can I disable it, that another window is focused if I scroll the mouswheel? Sometimes it is disturbing08:55
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DaSkreechralf_: What?08:57
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_vgeralf_: if you find it, tell me too :I)08:58
ralf_DaSkreech: if i klick on the titlebar of a window (highlight it) and move the mousewheel, another window is focused08:58
Child4Christ.udeb the repackaged deb packages?08:59
DaSkreechralf_: never noticed that before that's neat :)08:59
_vgewell not in tittlebar :/08:59
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ralf_DaSkreech: i was just surfing with firefox and lost focus a lot since I'm accustomed to scrolling with the mousewheel :)09:01
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sdlnxgk!firewall09:02
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)09:02
DaSkreechralf_: On the title bar?09:02
aliasfredbad firestarter09:02
aliasfredbouh bad09:02
aliasfreddont use this one09:02
slow-motionre09:03
sdlnxgkI think by default  it's enabled and I want to remove it09:03
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sdlnxgkwhat is the best and easiest?09:03
ralf_DaSkreech: it happens if you e.g. move the window and then try to scroll down with the mousewheel09:03
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sdlnxgkfirestarter not installed09:04
sdlnxgkand neither is shorewall09:05
sdlnxgkwhat is  the best  way to find out if i'm running any  type of software firewall from default setup??09:05
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sdlnxgkfred  is shorewall ok to use???09:06
pepsiralf_: System Settings, Desktop, Window Behavior09:06
sdlnxgkanyone using guard dog??09:06
pepsido you have something selected for Titlebar Wheel Event?09:06
ralf_pepsi: nope09:07
pepsihrm09:08
sdlnxgkshorewall or guarddog for firewall??09:08
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Child4Christuse firstarter, good and easy ^-^09:08
sdlnxgkno one can seem my public server09:09
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sdlnxgkChild  thanks :D09:09
Child4Christguarddog will by defualy, cut you off from the internet :P09:09
Child4Christ*defualt09:09
Child4Christ:|09:09
Child4Christi cant spell lol09:09
sdlnxgkguarddog and shorewall  is not installed09:09
sdlnxgknot sure I have a firewall running  but still can't see my public server  from  outside my network09:10
pepsiralf_: the mouse wheel never activates another window for me unless the cursor pointed at another window09:10
gatekeeper_!iptables09:10
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)09:10
ralf_pepsi: it seems mousewheel on titelbar doesn't change anything (no matter what I set it to)09:10
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gatekeeper_sdlnxgk: firestarter and guardog are just GUI for iptables ^^^09:11
pepsilol, its kinda cool to have it set to to shade09:11
Child4Christhow do i close ports via the term?09:11
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sdlnxgkgatekeeper  thanks kind of figured  that they were just a gui front end but none are installed by default09:12
fatejudgerwhenever I create a link to trash:/ on my desktop, it always shows the trash as full09:12
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fatejudgeris there any way to get it to reflect the actual state of the trash can?09:12
gatekeeper_sdlnxgk: correct you need to install them09:12
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sdlnxgkgatekeeper thanks.... not sure what default  settings are in iptables but i'm sure that is the cause of my not seeing  my public server ;)09:13
ironfroggyi have added a user to a group, but when i run groups on that user, it doens show in the list. am i missing something?09:13
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gatekeeper_sdlnxgk: as I understand it, all ports are closed by default, and are only openned as you install software that require them09:14
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ironfroggyalso, i confirmed that other members of the new group do appear with it correctly.09:15
ironfroggythe user who does not appaer to be a member, but is, is unable to access volumes the group needs to work with.09:16
pepsihas the user logged out?09:16
ironfroggyive started a new shell to test it, which has always worked before.09:16
ralf_if i'm surfing my hd with konqueror, what is a fast way to open a shell and to be in the current directory09:16
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fatejudgerralf_: F809:17
ironfroggyshould i try logging out of kde as well?09:17
ralf_nice, thx :)09:18
fatejudgerralf_: np09:18
pepsiironfroggy: log out09:18
ironfroggyperfect setup for a good /quit joke09:18
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||Trayer||!resolution09:19
hardw1redoes konversation have any default tools for displaying system info?09:19
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:19
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||Trayer||Are there any simpler ways to change ones resolution...?09:21
ironfroggyok, next question, where is a good howto for getting direct rendering and hardware GL working? im running with a decent ATI card, but its got me on indirect mesa09:21
bonggnuhi, i am trying to installl mediawiki, but shows an error , about PHP5, but i have instaled all php5 mods09:22
aliasfredfind the driver for your graphic card. fyi, a lot of issues are reported with ati cards09:22
||Trayer|| I repeat, Any simple ways to change ones resolution? I did a really long wizard, and chose the wrong resolution now everything is blurry09:22
bonggnuPHP 5.0.0 or higher is required. ABORTING.09:22
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fatejudger||Trayer||: xorg.conf09:22
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ironfroggyaliasfred: i used easyubuntu to get the ATI drivers, and my xorg.conf lists my device as using the driver "ati"09:22
fatejudgerironfroggy: you need to change it to fglrx09:23
fatejudgerironfroggy: just follow the ati binary howto on wiki.kubuntu.org09:23
ironfroggyis ati the generic/unofficial driver?09:23
aliasfredironfroggy: glxinfo | grep direct answers what ?09:23
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fatejudgerironfroggy: it's the opensource one09:23
ironfroggydont i want the real driver?09:23
fatejudgerironfroggy: fglrx is the closed source one that ATI puts out09:23
fatejudgerironfroggy: not necesarialy09:24
aliasfredironfroggy: follow fatejudger he likely much more than me about this :)09:24
ironfroggyok i thought you meant the fglrx is the open source one.09:24
fatejudgerironfroggy: do you need 3d rendering capabilities?09:24
ironfroggyfatejudger: i do09:24
fatejudger!ati09:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:24
fatejudgergo there and follow that howto09:24
||Trayer||!pastebin09:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:24
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||Trayer||http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18527 is my xorg.conf, can anyone tell me what to change to get back the default resolution? (was it 800x600 oO;?)09:25
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ironfroggywhere are the drivers located?09:26
DaSkreechWhen was the last time ubuntu-calendar was updated?09:26
ironfroggyi think they are already installed.09:26
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pepsiDaSkreech: years ago ;D09:26
||Trayer||http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1852709:26
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fatejudger||Trayer||: that should be right09:26
DaSkreechShame09:26
fatejudger||Trayer||: just use 1024x76809:26
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pepsitoo sexy i guess09:26
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ralf_how can I set the windows-key to open the k-menu? :)09:26
||Trayer|| fatejudger: It got blurrier though09:27
DaSkreechWe should have aKubuntu-calendar with questionable pictures of Konqui09:27
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pepsiralf keyboard shortcuts in the regional & accessiblity setting09:27
Jack1what do i need to install or configure to be instantly alarmed i a new mail comes in??09:27
fatejudgerDaSkreech: lol09:27
||Trayer|| On another note, Unreal is now giving me a different problem when I attempt to run in. "Can't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file"09:28
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fatejudgerralf_: have you tried the keyboard shortcuts area?09:28
DaSkreechThough I'm not sure if it fits into the "human" theme of the Ubuntu Philosphy09:28
Jack1shall i get korn?09:28
DaSkreechMaybe have a few peseants in the background with trogdor signs?09:28
fatejudgerDaSkreech: speaking of the human theme, we seriously need a default Kubuntu theme that's worth a damn09:29
lodgerhello everybody09:29
DaSkreechfatejudger: Good Luck Jumpt to it09:29
Tommy2k4ralf_, you need to reconfigure the key09:29
fatejudgerDaSkreech: heh, I'm no artist09:29
Tommy2k4i forget how to do it, ill take a look for the guide09:29
DaSkreechfatejudger: But you do know what you like ;-)09:29
pepsispeaking of themes, is there an easy way to set all those millions of window style settings to something that looks halfway decent?09:30
pepsiim used to gnome where i have less options :P09:30
pepsithis is too many09:30
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DaSkreechpepsi: Welcome to the choice of a new generation09:30
unix_infidelall that gui nonsense :P09:30
fatejudgerralf_: Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts09:30
fatejudgerralf_: search for menu in there09:31
fatejudgerralf_: it's under "popup launch menu"09:31
ralf_fatejudger: it seems that the windows-key can only be used in conjunction with another key :(09:31
pepsiDaSkreech: yeah see, thats why i switched cause there are nice little extras, but its like extra-overload for me right now :(09:31
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DaSkreechpepsi: Ignore anything that you don't want to change for mine09:31
fatejudgerralf_: it seems so09:31
pepsiDaSkreech: im sorry now?09:32
DaSkreechpepsi: s/for mine/for now/09:32
fatejudgerI wonder if KDE has a volume monitor similar to the one Ubuntu's Gnome has09:32
BKajWell gents, I've followed the instructions here to the letter, ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl ),  but the desktop reverts to the sme old login scrn, even tho I've chosen the Xgl option09:32
DaSkreechYou can learn about it and break it later :-)09:32
||Trayer|| O O O H H H  Y E A H!!! I Fixed UT2k4 (Well, Kinda.)  You need to run it in Sudo.  It must be a permission error09:33
pepsiDaSkreech: yes but i want the windows to look better, so that requires changing it09:33
pepsiDaSkreech: half of the controls styles, for example, look like poop09:33
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||Trayer|| I repeat, Running UT2k4 IN Sudo FIXED THE PROBLEM09:33
||Trayer|| Now, I'm off to play some ut2k4 : D09:33
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user-landthat's funny, i don't see screensaver in kmenu:System Settings ...09:34
DaSkreechpepsi: kde-look.org ?09:35
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DaSkreechuser-land: Type screensaver in the search bar09:35
DaSkreechuser-land: Seeeeee? that's neat09:35
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user-landoh, excellent, daskreech :-)09:36
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user-landgreat, they took the system settings panel from mac osx and improved it decisively then :-)09:37
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DaSkreechuser-land: heh I still have issues with it :)09:37
pepsihow the heck do you use adept?09:37
user-landnamely ?09:37
DaSkreechpepsi: Well first you open it09:38
pepsihow do you find stuff without looking through a huge list? for example how would i find the linux-headers-* packages?09:39
DaSkreechSee the filter at the top09:39
DaSkreechtype linux-h09:39
DaSkreechwait a little09:39
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pepsiyes, but i already know the name.. what if i didnt09:40
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h3sp4wnWhere is the proper place to make sure that whenever rxvt is lauched (i.e via run its aliased how I want it) I can set it in .bashrc or /etc/profile but it doesn't seem to work09:43
h3sp4wn(unless its from a shell)09:43
BKajpepsi:  just type into the search box, it'll automatically find it if it's listed09:44
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pepsiblah, there is no way to view all the packages organized by category as aptitude would show it?09:45
DaSkreechpepsi: Sorry waht if you didnt what?09:45
DaSkreechpepsi: Ohhh!09:46
pepsilike synaptic, i guess09:46
DaSkreechpepsi: Yeah Drag the tags across09:46
pepsidoes adept just not do this?09:46
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DaSkreechYou see the tags on the side?09:46
DaSkreechSmart|Simple| All?09:46
pepsiyes, but they dont seem to include all the packages.. for example, i cant find where linux-headers would be :)09:46
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pepsiim just using linux-headers as an example, really.. obviously i dont need to find it in a category if i know the name09:47
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DaSkreechI'm not sure what category linux headers would be in ...09:47
gatekeeper_pepsi: have you synaptic installed?09:48
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pepsino but i think i should :)09:48
GIGANTORmmmm, liquid cocaine09:48
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gatekeeper_pepsi: it's what I use09:48
pepsiwas just trying to give the default package manager a shot09:49
pepsii guess i dont like it, then, eh? :P09:49
DaSkreechpepsi: I just type in what I'm looking for09:49
DaSkreechpepsi: it searches desc as well as far as I know09:49
DaSkreechso Movie would get you all movie players09:49
pepsiunless it used the term video ;P09:49
DaSkreechI was looking for something to skin KDM awhile ago and I just yped in theme and dragged over the KDE tag and found it09:50
BKajIs anyone running Xgl using the ati frglx drivers?09:50
DaSkreechpepsi: Yeah :-) but then your search skills come into play :-)09:50
DaSkreechpepsi: Play with the tags a little bit09:50
DaSkreechI started out with all but I really like the smart tags now09:51
DaSkreechBKaj: you could try in #ubuntu-xgl09:51
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BKajyeah, I did DaSkreech...they were too busy09:52
BKajignored me , cuz I guess my ati card is crap and they can't be bothered with a no'gamer09:52
DaSkreechDoubt it :)09:53
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DaSkreechBKaj: Which one is it?09:53
BKajit's ati xprss20009:53
BKajelcheapo , but the site says it'll work09:54
pekayanyone know where i can get tuxracer? :<09:55
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DaSkreechpekay09:57
DaSkreechDoh!!09:57
slicslakwhat's the best torrent app for kde right now?09:58
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shell75how do ya d/l bittorent in terminal?09:59
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slicslakshell75, net-p2p/bittornado10:01
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slicslakshell75, or, that's the gentoo name anyway  :-)10:02
shell75ok10:02
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ubuntuhello10:04
DaSkreechubuntu: Hi10:05
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DaSkreechcan kdevelop do Mono?10:08
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ubuntuMy wireless stuff is slow help10:09
ben__C#/Mono for Kdevelop is being worked on either as a Google Summer of Code project10:09
ben__or as a KDE summer project10:10
ben__so you might see some results soon.10:10
DaSkreechDamn it10:11
DaSkreechMonodevelop has so many dependecies10:11
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diego_clwho can help me setting up my network ?10:14
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DaSkreechpekay: Found it?10:16
danny50010hi10:16
DaSkreechdiego_cl: Whats up?10:16
danny50010first time here10:16
DaSkreechdanny50010: Welcome10:16
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danny50010this is my first time ever using linux10:17
diego_clhi DaSkreech10:17
diego_clmi problem is that i cant share the internet connection10:17
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gan|y|medhi10:18
danny50010My problem is that nothing is compatible with this fucking OS!10:18
diego_cli can explorer the files from the network, but i cant share the internet connection10:18
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Hawkwinddanny50010: Easy on the language please10:19
danny50010sorry10:19
danny50010how do you open bittorrent?10:20
diego_clinternet->ktorrent10:20
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danny50010can I use Limewire on linux?10:20
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gan|y|medi am having a problem with imagemagick and convert respectively. i wanna do: convert * -thumbnail x100 -quality 60 picture.jpg10:21
gan|y|medit works with a certain number of pics, but with larger numbers it says:10:21
gan|y|med convert: Application transferred too few scanlines 'picture_name'10:21
gan|y|med the pics are corrupted (black or black lines). any ideas?10:21
DaSkreechdiego_cl: Did you try to set it up as a Gateway?10:21
diego_clno10:22
diego_clhow can i do that ?!?!10:22
danny50010what are you guy's talking about?10:22
DaSkreech!limewire > danny5001010:22
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||Trayer|| I'm getting the error when I launch ut2004 (It will launch, just without sound) "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy" This is caused by a sound conflict, as the unreal engine refuses to launch sound unless it has total control.  Anyone know any fixes? I tried sudo killall esd10:22
diego_clDaSkreech: how can i do that ?!?!10:23
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DaSkreech!paste10:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:24
danny50010Is ubotu a human?10:24
aliasfrednope a bot10:24
koshnope10:24
DaSkreechdiego_cl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1853610:24
danny50010oh, no wonder it's so dumb.10:24
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DaSkreechdanny50010: try /msg ubotu help10:25
danny50010lol10:25
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danny50010hey DaSkreech10:25
DaSkreechYo10:25
danny50010how do I get Limewire10:25
diego_clTHANKS ! ! !10:25
DaSkreech!limewire > danny5001010:26
londondavedanny50010: get frostwire instead10:26
DaSkreechRad that10:26
DaSkreechRead that10:26
DaSkreechdiego_cl: Sure10:26
danny50010I no how to download it, but my os won't install it.10:26
DaSkreechdanny50010: You don't install it10:26
DaSkreechIt's a java program you just run it10:26
danny50010you do on windows10:26
DaSkreechdanny50010: This isn't windows10:26
DaSkreechEven on windows all it does it unpack itself and check to see if you have Java10:27
danny50010i'm os confused10:27
DaSkreechRelax. It's a java program10:27
DaSkreech all you have to do is install java10:27
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danny50010I downloaded it but it won't install on to my hard drive.10:27
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danny50010were do I get java10:27
aliasfredsub java is in the repository no ?10:27
DaSkreechdanny50010: Again. You don't have to install it10:27
DaSkreechaliasfred: Correct10:28
aliasfredsub java = sun java10:28
DaSkreech!java10:28
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:28
aliasfredgood :)10:28
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DaSkreechdanny50010: Do you have multiverse?10:28
diego_clDaSkreech: how do i use the script ?10:28
danny50010how do you turn off ubotu?10:28
danny50010multiverse???10:28
DaSkreechdiego_cl: You can make it executable but it's probably better to run it with sudo sh ics.sh from the command line10:28
DaSkreech!multiverse > danny5001010:29
DaSkreechdanny50010: read that :)10:29
DaSkreechLet me know if you have any problems with it10:29
danny50010o10:29
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diego_clDaSkreech: can you tell me the exact text I have to type in the console to install the script?10:30
danny50010google > DaSkreech10:30
stoftI just unrooted myself by mistake. Anyone have an idea how I readd myself to sudoers?10:30
londondavedanny50010: if u did download it and you have java u'd type 'java -jar limewire.jar'10:30
h3sp4wnstoft: Recoverry mode10:30
DaSkreechdiego_cl: Do you have the script on your computer?10:30
diego_clyes10:30
DaSkreechok what did you call it?10:30
londondavebut frostwire is better10:30
diego_cli downloaded it10:30
stofth3sp4wn: ok, was thinking that might be the way to go, anything else I should know or is it fairly selfexplanatory?10:31
|lostbyte|cd10:31
|lostbyte|ls10:31
|lostbyte|c10:31
londondaveso you could do 'sudo apt-get install frostwire'10:31
diego_clDaSkreech: the script file could have any extension?10:31
DaSkreechdiego_cl: yes10:31
h3sp4wnstoft: get in as root (from recovery console) and use visudo to readd yourself10:31
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stofth3sp4wn: ok, thnx10:32
DaSkreech:-(10:32
DaSkreechPekay won't answer me10:32
diego_clDaSkreech: when i type sudo sh ics.sh  on the console, i will install the script for ever?10:33
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yakovhi10:33
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yakovi cant find my PCI modem with kppp10:33
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yakovi also have 2 serial ports10:33
londondaveyakov: what modem do u have?10:34
DaSkreechdiego_cl: Should10:34
yakovUS Robotics10:34
yakovPCI modem10:34
yakovit is usually mapped to COM3 under windows10:34
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bipolaris anyone using XGL in Kubuntu? I've been following the howtos, and it mostly seems to work. The only problem is that kde-window-decorator does not do a thing. So I have no window decorations. :\10:34
gan|y|medciao10:34
DaSkreechbipolar: use gwd10:35
londondaveyakov: this is for dial-up, what do u need it for?10:35
bipolarDaSkreech: so kwd is broken?10:35
DaSkreechbipolar: Cause kde-window-decorator doesn't do a thing :)10:35
yakovlondondave, yes i want to dial up using it10:35
DaSkreechbipolar: I'd say ignored10:35
bipolarheh.... new version somewhere?10:35
DaSkreechbipolar: Kind of. use the gnome one for now10:35
londondaveyakov: what device did u try in kppp10:37
yakovttyS3, ttyS410:37
londondavetry ttyS210:37
diego_clDaSkreech: it says sintaxis error  ! !10:37
londondavebut it's normally ttyS010:37
yakovok, how can i find packages for kubuntu6.06?10:38
yakovi want to download wvdial package from windows10:38
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yakovcould you pls help me10:38
DaSkreechdiego_cl: where?10:38
bipolarDaSkreech: heh... working. ugly, but working :P10:38
DaSkreechdiego_cl: that's all?10:38
DaSkreechbipolar: Yup10:38
londondaveyakov: if it's a winmodem ur going to need the slmodem driver10:38
londondave!winmodem10:39
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto10:39
diego_cldiego@salita:~/Desktop/Script$ sudo sh ics.sh10:40
diego_cl: orden no encontrada10:40
diego_cl: orden no encontrada10:40
diego_cl'cs.sh: line 23: error de sintaxis cerca de token no esperado `{10:40
diego_cl'cs.sh: line 23: `function die() {10:40
diego_cldiego@salita:~/Desktop/Script$10:40
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diego_clDaSkreech: sorry, but i hace kubuntu in spanish10:40
diego_clDaSkreech: im from chile10:40
macconlinei need help, what it is: [506]  #ubuntu-es Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel10:40
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londondaveyakov normally u just use /dev/modem from the kppp drop down list and it should just work, if it's a winmodem, that means you need the smartlink modem driver10:41
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tomamacconline: you need to register if you keep on using irc10:41
DaSkreechdiego_cl: That's fine10:42
tomamacconline: type in the command between the () and follow those directions10:42
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DaSkreechdiego_cl: The computer can see the internet already right?10:42
DaSkreech!register > macconline10:42
DaSkreechGuess he got Limewire10:42
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macconlinetoma: only !register > macconline  ???10:44
Hawkwind!register10:44
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration10:44
HawkwindRead that10:44
diego_cltype  this          /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>10:45
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diego_clthats all, you only have to change <password> with your password10:45
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ubuntuI'm installing Kubuntu again. But i can't select ReiserFS as my filesystem in the new graphical installer. Why's that?10:46
londondavebecause ext3 is better10:46
macconlinediego_cl: ok, but say: NickServ- The nickname [macconline]  is not registered10:46
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Tommy2k4you need to register before you can identify10:47
bipolarubuntu: I *think* that you can only use reiserfs from the non-livecd installer10:47
macconlinewhere register my user10:47
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Tommy2k4!register10:47
macconline??10:47
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration10:47
Tommy2k4read that page10:47
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macconlineok,10:47
jimI downloaded wine and was wondering how to install it on my machine?10:47
Tommy2k4how did u dl it10:47
ubuntulondondave: Why's ext3 better? That's not my experience.10:47
Tommy2k4what file extension is it10:48
diego_clDaSkreech: no, the other computer in windows xp cant explore the internet10:48
jimfrom sourceforge, and it has not shown up in synaptics or anywhere10:48
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diego_clDaSkreech: :(10:48
londondaveubuntu: it beats reiser on all benchmarks I have seen10:48
ubuntu_hello10:48
ubuntulondondave: LOL, i've seen the exact opposite...10:48
ubuntu_abattoir: are you there^10:49
ubuntulondondave: Besides, if i want somebody else to make those decisions for me, i would be using a Microsoft OS. ;)10:49
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londondavei'm not sure i get ur point10:49
ubuntu_i need help, i am unable to boot10:49
Johncro13I'm unable to boot into Xorg!!!  I tried upgrading to edgy and got this error after running sudo apt-get upgrade.    libxdmcp6: Depends: x11-common (>1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is installed.  E: Unmet dependancies, etc...   Can anyone help me??10:50
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ubuntu_i just installed kubuntu10:50
ubuntu_i am on the live cd now10:50
ubuntu_the installer is unable to make my disk bootable10:50
ubuntu_what should i do?10:50
ubuntuIs there a way to use the old installer with the Kubuntu 6.06 release?10:51
jimtommy the file xtension is .deb10:51
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londondaveJohncro13: try apt-get install -f10:51
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DaSkreechJohncro13: Are you sure you should be upgrading to edgy?10:51
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DaSkreechDeBert: try the alternate Cd10:52
pierrethok, i have a name now10:52
Johncro13london, I did.  Skreech, too late.10:52
DaSkreechpierreth: Well done10:52
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pierrethi am on a mac mini10:52
Johncro13unless you know of a way to go back...10:53
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londondaveJohncro13: did startx not work?10:53
Johncro13londondave, it did not.10:53
DeBertDaSkreech: I will. God, 3 minutes with that new installer, and i hate it already :)10:53
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pichicu10:53
londondavewhat error did you get10:53
DaSkreech:-)10:53
stoftthnx h3sp4wn, it worked (I had no doubt)10:53
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jimhow do i install a program with a .deb extension?10:53
londondavesudo dpkg -i package10:54
DaSkreechjim: Right click it in Konqueror you'll get an install option10:54
Johncro13no error.  Just empty loading bar and then nothing.10:54
DaSkreechor that :)10:54
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Johncro13completely frozen.10:54
OODjim: quick way, right click ->kubuntu package menu->install package10:54
pierrethDaSkreech: are you talking to me?10:54
londondaveJohncro13: i had to install kubuntu twice, first time I had the same problem10:55
DaSkreechpierreth: No What's up?10:55
DaSkreechimbrandon: Ping :)10:55
Johncro13so... sudo dpkg -i...then what?10:55
jimwhere do I find kubuntu package menu, i have synaptics10:55
pierrethDaSkreech: i try to make my disk bootable10:55
DaSkreechpierreth: Ok what happened?10:55
londondaveJohncro13: then it should install the package10:55
DaSkreechjim: Are you in KDE10:55
stoftJohncro13: shouldn't be anything after that. perhaps a question depending on what you're installing.10:55
pierrethDaSkreech: i just made an install of kubuntu10:56
jimi installed kde but how do i access it10:56
pierrethDaSkreech: the installer is unable to make my disk bootable10:56
Johncro13sudo dpkg -i x11-common?10:56
londondavethats it and it should install if there are no dependency problems10:57
OODpierreth: you talking about the hard drive you installed kubuntu? make sure you're actually booting off that hard drive (in the bios)10:57
|lostbyte|How do i get those c++ header files ?10:57
Johncro13but the error states there are dependancy problems.10:57
DaSkreechHmm What happends when you boot?10:57
|lostbyte|which package are they in..10:57
Johncro13 libxdmcp6: Depends: x11-common (>1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is installed.  E: Unmet dependancies, etc..10:57
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londondaveJohncro13: when u try to install with dpkg?10:57
pierrethOOD: i booted from the CD10:57
DaSkreechjim: do you have an auto login or do you put in a password?10:58
jimnormal boot up it shows kubuntu on the boot screen10:58
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jimi put in a password10:58
pierrethOOD: i want nothing but kubuntu on my drive10:58
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pierrethOOD: i am on a mac mini10:58
Johncro13haven't tried it yet.  I unplugged the net cable so I could chat on my xp machine.10:58
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DaSkreechjim: Ok in the sessions menu when you are putting in your password you can choose between KDE and Gnome10:58
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OODpierrath: ah, power pc or intel?10:58
pierrethOOD: powerpc10:59
DaSkreechOOD: You Mac aware?10:59
jimall i have is the user name and pasword then ok10:59
pierrethOOD: yes10:59
OODno i don't know too much about macs10:59
Johncro13londondave, I'll try it and be right back.10:59
pierrethDaSkreech: Yes10:59
OODbut the powerpc build of ubuntu and kubuntu have some big problems i beleive10:59
pierrethOOD: it s ok!11:00
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DaSkreechjim: I think it's F10 at the login screen11:00
pierrethOOD: you mean it is not working well?11:00
jimi will try it thank you if not i will be back11:00
DaSkreechjim: Look carefully :-) there should be a system menu and a sessions menu. Some11:00
DaSkreechjim: some of the login screens have them cleverly hidden11:01
OODpierreth: take a look at this: http://ubuntuos.com/2006/07/imac-part-3#comments11:01
pierrethOOD: Ok11:01
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OODfrom what i get, he couldn't even install dapper on the mac11:01
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OODand had to install breezy and then upgrade to dapper11:02
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OODpierreth: maybe email him and ask what he did, since he got help from other people mailing him solutions11:04
OODexcept he was installing ubuntu, and on a G3 imac i think11:04
pierrethOOD: we don t have the same problem11:05
DeBertDoes anybody know when Kopete 0.12 will be in edgy? I would really like to try out the new jingle support.11:05
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intelikey(==) Using config file: "/usr/share/slo1d3/xorg.conf"11:05
intelikeyerror opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy11:05
intelikeyand then it shuts down.11:05
pierrethOOD: I ll try what i can11:06
OODpierreth: did kubuntu install completely?11:06
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pierrethOOD: i think so11:07
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intelikeylast error in .xsession-errors  was11:07
intelikeyWarning: connect() failed: : Connection refused11:07
intelikeyError: Can't contact kdeinit!11:07
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abattoirugh, who pinged me? ubuntu_? are you still here? known as someone else?11:09
abattoirand which ubuntu_ are you? I've help 3 ubuntu_'s and 2 ubuntus today :P11:10
abattoir*helped11:10
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abattoirpierreth: oh... ok, you are the mac mini ubuntu_ :P11:11
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ironfroggywhere can i get additional printer drivers?11:11
unix_infidelanyone here have experience with sennheisers warranty?11:11
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pierrethabattoir: yes! :-)11:11
abattoirpierreth: it works?11:12
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pierrethabattoir: it works now!11:12
intelikeytrying to create local folder /root/share: Not a directory \nQSettings: error creating /root/.qt \ntrying to create local folder /root/socket-zeos486: Not a directory \nCould not register with DCOPServer. Aborting. \nstartkde: Shutting down... \nWarning: connect() failed: : Connection refused \nError: Can't contact kdeinit!   so kde can not run at all without  /root now !       (intelikey calls that a bug)11:12
abattoirno one here has kubuntu installed on their macs ?11:12
abattoirpierreth: oh, that's cool :)11:12
pierrethabattoir: but my disk is still now bootable :-(11:12
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abattoir*not ?11:13
pierrethabattoir: i am using it now from the CD11:13
DaSkreechnot11:13
OODpierreth: it's possible that grub did not install to the mbr11:13
MadRushhey whats the psuedo package that gives me the compilers and make and all that good stuff11:13
OODcan you access the hard drive?11:13
DaSkreech!b-e11:13
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:13
agentskippyso, i'm hot off a fresh install of kubuntu here... and the apt repository doesn't have ANY packages in it. I'm coming from gentoo, like, I can't install xmms. it says it can't find it11:13
abattoirOOD: grub is installed for macs too?11:13
abattoiror is it yaboot?11:13
OODisn't there a ppc version of grub too?11:13
pierrethOOD: No, there is no grub for the Mac, it is yaboot11:13
OODah ok11:13
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Ashexmy Kmenu is incomplete11:14
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Ashexthere are  bunch of menus that aren't visible11:14
Ashexbut when i go to edit menu, they are in there11:14
intelikeyMadRush build-essential11:14
abattoirpierreth: hmmm.... wait up then.... unless i fall back asleep :P11:14
pierrethabattoir: ok11:14
OODAshex: your Kmenu isn't incomplete11:15
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OODAshex:youre seeing that because the additional categories are are empty11:15
abattoirpierreth: sorry, if i asked you this before, did you try installation? did it fail?11:15
abattoirpierreth: you got any error messages?11:15
DaSkreechagentskippy: Maybe add some repos?11:15
proudfoot!media11:15
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs11:15
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pierrethabattoir: i have an error message at the end of the installation11:15
AshexOOD, the debian menu should contain all the packages though. it does on my 32-bit :/11:15
proudfoot!codecs11:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:15
abattoirpierreth: aah, can you pastebin it ?11:16
abattoir!pastebin > pierreth11:16
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pierrethabattoir: yes, give me the link to do so, ok?11:16
OODAshex: i didn't even have the debian menu t'ill i installed fluxbox11:16
agentskippyDaSkreech: where can I find a list of repositories? I'm only used to the emerge package system, sorry =/11:16
abattoirpierreth: i gave you... :P11:17
abattoir!paste11:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:17
intelikeyodd that root cant run kde.11:17
DaSkreech!repositories > agentskippy11:17
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DaSkreechagentskippy: There you go11:18
OODintelikey: root can run kde, root can run anything, just that the root account has been disabled in ubuntu11:18
agentskippyDaSkreech: excellent, thank you very much11:18
intelikeyOOD not without /root   dke wont run.11:18
pierrethabattoir: ok, it is done now11:18
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intelikeyerr kde11:18
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abattoirpierreth: the link ?11:19
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wolfmanz_Is there a way or a program i can get to make it so when i click on a icon i connect to my lan connection and if i click it again i dissconnect from the lan connection?11:19
pierrethabattoir: what do you mean? i used the link...11:19
abattoirpierreth: nvm,i'll check it out11:20
intelikeyOOD i would have thought that kde would use roots home, where ever it was.  but the (/root as swap dir) bug in kde prevents it from running.11:20
abattoirpierreth: you are supposed to give the link back here :)11:20
pierrethabattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1854211:20
pierrethabattoir: sorry11:21
abattoirpierreth: nvm, i'm there already :)11:21
Ashexanyone have splashy on 64-bit?11:21
abattoirwait....11:21
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Johncro14hello?11:21
abattoirpierreth: and what does /var/log/installer/syslog  say?11:21
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Johncro14I'm back.11:22
DaSkreechJohncro14: How many of them are you?11:22
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Johncro14a million.11:22
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intelikeyhello's not here right now can i take a message11:22
intelikey:)11:22
DaSkreechThat's going to be an annoying nick to type out :(11:22
Johncro14where's londondave?11:22
abattoirpierreth: can you paste the link in #kubuntu-offtopic ?11:23
wolfmanz_Is there a way or a program i can get to make it so when i click on a icon i connect to my lan connection and if i click it again i dissconnect from the lan connection?11:24
DaSkreechabattoir: Take it you were monitoring k-dev?11:24
abattoirDaSkreech: yes :)11:24
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Johncro14I ran the dpkg -i package.  error is as follows.         dpkg: error processing x11-common_1%3a7.0.22ubuntu6_i386.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1  Errors were encountered while processing x11-common, etc, etc...11:25
DaSkreechwolfmanz_: Not off the top of my head11:25
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DaSkreechwolfmanz_: There is a Network icon you cna add to the panel11:25
DaSkreechwolfmanz_: You can disable it from there11:25
intelikeyso i guess i'll fall back to twm until they patch kde so that it doesn't use /root as it's swap dir for all verable data.11:25
Johncro14any ideas?11:26
||Trayer|| Anyone know how to set it so I have root powers on my account? (Trayer).  To install a patch I need to copy files to a folder I "Dont have permission" to, (I'm computer owned and administrator, yesss)11:26
abattoir||Trayer||: you mean you dont want to enter a password every time you sudo ?11:27
pierrethabattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1854311:27
||Trayer|| abattoir: Yep, and I wanna make it so I can use ark to copy the files from a tar.bz2 without needing to run sudo throuhg the commandline11:27
abattoirpierreth: could you also post that at #kubuntu-offtopic ?11:27
intelikeyjohncro## look a little higher on the screen at what the actual error was...11:27
abattoirapparently there are people there who know about macs... and kubuntu11:27
abattoir||Trayer||: /etc/sudoers is the file, open it up11:28
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stoft||Trayer||: use "visudo" to do so securely11:28
Johncro14rmdir: usr/X11R6/bin directory not empty?  That's the error?11:28
pierrethabattoir: done11:28
||Trayer|| abattoir: Alright, one second11:29
intelikey||Trayer|| you could always just run as root.  then you don't have any restrictions....   or any security...11:29
Ender1024hhi11:29
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||Trayer|| How would one run as root?11:29
ironfroggyim trying to set up a printer, and its drivers are installed, but set to the usb port when i would prefer to use the network. the instructions i have say to go into "Modify Printer" to fix that, but i dont see any such options.11:30
stoft||Trayer||: sudo -s -H11:30
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stoftor you can enable root password11:30
abattoir||Trayer||: or execute sudo visudo11:30
Johncro14intelikey...serious?11:30
intelikeyJohncro14  no there should be another one.  that one wont generally kill a configuration script.11:30
Johncro14nope.11:30
Johncro14that's all.11:30
intelikeyJohncro14 yes.11:30
stoft||Trayer||: sudo -s -H will give you a root session until you 'exit'11:31
intelikeyhmmmm odd11:31
Ender1024what is sudo use for?11:31
||Trayer|| I did a sudo -s -H Then a visudo.  What do I change in visudo?11:31
Johncro14I know.11:31
Johncro14and you can just call me John.11:31
h3sp4wn||Trayer||: Use sudo -i not sudo -s for that11:31
intelikeyJohncro14 you can safely rm that dir.11:31
intelikeythen try the install again.11:31
||Trayer||sudo -i does what?11:31
stoft||Trayer||: depends on what you want. sudo -s -H will give you a root session. visudo will give you the possibility to edit the sudoer file so you won't need to enter a password when you do "sudo"11:31
h3sp4wn||Trayer||: Similar to sudo -s - but safer11:32
||Trayer|| I understand.  Is there any way to make it so I automatically have root powers? Like, moving myself into a user group named root?11:32
intelikeyJohncro14 the only thing i show in there by default is "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2006-07-21 02:51 X -> ../../bin/X "11:32
ironfroggywhat rights does a user need to modify printer configurations?11:32
intelikeyone symlink11:32
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toma||Trayer||: there is no need to do so11:33
intelikeyironfroggy being in cupsys group might be enough... not sure.11:34
||Trayer|| So, I so a sudo -s -H to gain a root session, though, is there any way to make it so I stay in root next time I log on?11:34
toma||Trayer||: why?11:34
macd||Trayer||: Thats not really recommended, why would you want to?11:34
ironfroggyintelikey: i have no such group11:34
ironfroggyintelikey: i have a cupsys _user_ tho11:34
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||Trayer|| Just for convienience11:35
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intelikey||Trayer|| only if you add a command in an init script.11:35
stoft||Trayer||: login as root? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_set.2Fchange.2Fenable_root_user_password11:35
Johncro14I removed the directory.  I'm going to reboot and see if that did it.11:35
macd||Trayer||: are you aware thats not safe?11:35
toma||Trayer||: just use sudo whenever you need to... it works and is safe.11:36
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wolfmanz_DaSkreech where do i find that network icon at ?11:36
ranunculoidHow big is the kubuntu kernel?11:36
||Trayer|| Safe as in what kind?11:36
macdsafe as i NOT.11:36
||Trayer|| What is "Dangerous" persay about logging on as root?11:36
macdircing.11:36
macdbrowsing the web11:36
stoft||Trayer||: besides up-ing the possibility of hosing your system more often.11:36
intelikeytoma sudo is safe ?11:36
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ranunculoid||Trayer||: You might as well be in windoze ;)11:37
macdsafer than su ;P11:37
toma||Trayer||: that you are less likely to remove data you dont want to remove11:37
r0xz||Trayer||: system wide permission when not needed is a no-no11:37
||Trayer|| Also, how would one make a folder so you have writing permission?.  I need to copy folders to a folder without write permission11:37
tomaintelikey: no, but that you type explicitly11:37
macdforget protecting users from thier own ignorance, its just not a good idea.11:37
stoftman chmod11:37
stoft||Trayer||: it depends on where the folders are11:38
intelikeyyep loging in as root is the  M$ windows of the *nix world.11:38
||Trayer|| Located in /usr/local/games/ut200411:38
macd||Trayer||: then run your file manager with kdesu or gksudo.11:38
Johncro14no dice.11:38
ranunculoidSo how big is the kubuntu kernel can someone tell me? Can someone check the filesize of /boot/vmlinuzetcetc for me please?11:39
intelikeyJohncro14 what's it saying now ?11:39
Johncro14I went and dried non-recovery mode.  I'm back to frozen.11:39
||Trayer|| How do I do that? gksudo konquerer?11:39
stoft1,4M11:39
macdranunculoid: 1517306bytes.11:39
Johncro14I saluted it.11:39
ranunculoidstoft: woah that's pretty small11:40
macd||Trayer||: kdesu konquerer11:40
intelikeyoh it did install ok tho ?11:40
Johncro14It appeared to...11:40
macdhi there intelikey btw.11:40
||Trayer||konquerer not found, is konquerer the command to bring it up?11:40
macdno.11:40
||Trayer|| *^11:40
intelikeyJohncro14 reconfig xorg ?11:41
Johncro14what's the command?11:41
intelikeymacd11:41
macd||Trayer||: are you familiar with Konsole?11:41
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intelikeykonqueror  is the executables name   yes.11:41
Johncro14just vi xorg.config?11:42
||Trayer|| Not very.  I know abit of how to use it, such as navigate run .debs unpack stuff etc11:42
macdhowever it wont run... without including the entire path.11:42
Hawkwindsudo vi xorg.conf actually11:42
intelikeyJohncro14  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:42
Hawkwindsudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf actually :P11:42
||Trayer|| So how would I launch konquerer in kdesu?11:43
intelikeyJohncro14 if you want to edit it by hand  use that ^   else use the  dpkg-reconfigure line.11:43
Johncro14Xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed.11:43
wolfmanz_Is there a way or a program i can get to make it so when i click on a icon i connect to my lan connection and if i click it again i dissconnect from the lan connection?11:43
intelikey||Trayer|| "kdesu konqueror "11:43
OOD<||Trayer||>: in kubuntu, you don't directly run as root, you use the sudo command (before any other command) to acuire temporary root privelages11:43
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||Trayer|| I'm in a root session right now11:44
intelikeyah Johncro14 now you are getting some where.     try this.    sudo apt-get install -f11:44
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macd||Trayer||: then you dont need to run as kdesu, if your already root.11:44
Johncro14I have to be connected to the internet for that.11:44
intelikey:)11:45
Johncro14I'll be back.11:45
macd!root11:45
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:45
Johncro14becore I go, though, I should type apt-get install -f xorg?11:45
Johncro14because I've done apt-get install -f before with no luck.11:45
macd||Trayer||: my suggestion to you is to run as your normal user, when you need to move files b/t directories you dont have write access to, simply 'sudo cp /path/to/file /destination/to/file11:45
intelikeyroot is the 'super-user' of the *nix world.   every linux system has the user "root" on it.11:46
coachJwolfman did you ever get an answer11:46
wolfmanz_no11:46
||Trayer|| Kk11:46
coachJi would like to know that too11:46
intelikeyJohncro14 you can try both.11:46
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intelikeyJohncro14 gennerally without any package name.     sudo apt-get install -f         and watch for errors.11:47
Johncro14okay.11:47
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intelikey<wolfmanz_> Is there a way or a program i can get to make it so when ...  man script it.11:48
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stoftwolfmanz_: not having tried... my guess is you could hook up an icon to a script that does ifup/ifdown. not sure about grants etc. though.11:50
wolfmanz_intelikey if i could do that i wouldnt be here asking how to do it lol11:50
haldorHi people. how can I get sound to work with flash using konquerer?11:50
intelikeywolfmanz_  open a terminal and an editor.   in the term  test the commands that you need to do the work and put them in the editor.   use an 'if' startment to let the script deside if it should run the connect command or the dis-connect command.    if pidof blah ;then disconnect ;else connect ;fi   <-- example.11:50
Blissexhaldor: very relunctantly :-)11:50
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haldorblissex: buggar because firefox keeps crashing on certaoin sites where konquerer is stable but no sound :(11:51
stofthaldor, have you installed a java-plugin in firefox recently?11:51
intelikeywolfmanz_ any thing you can do from the command line you can put in a script.11:51
intelikeyplus some.11:51
Blissexhaldor: there are ways and ways though...11:52
ironfroggyhow do i configure the print server in kde? it asks me for roots password, of which there is none.11:52
intelikeyor is it  plus sum11:52
haldorstoft: well just installed a heap of stuff. fresh to ubuntu a week now and well just loaded up on things items11:52
Blissexhaldor: the basic problem is that Flash uses OSS emulation and that does not support sharing the card. All solutions are somewhat painful.11:52
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Blissexhaldor: have a look at the OSS and sharing and Flash sections of http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html11:53
haldorblissex: pkay will just live without those sites. not a biggie11:53
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stofthaldor, check if you have java5 plugin installed in firefox and try removing it (don't ask me how, friend had the problem, not me). the java plugin is apparently a bit buggy.11:54
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stofthaldor: try dpkg -l |grep java511:55
stoftto see if it's installed11:55
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stofthaldor: if it's installed, try sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-plugin11:56
gatekeeperstoft: haldor about:plugins where you write the url in Firefox11:56
haldorstoft: nope nothing returned there11:56
intelikeywolfmanz_ one example might be this; (using \n as line breaks)    #!/bin/sh \nif ifconfig | grep eth0 >/dev/null 2>&1 \n    then ifconfig eth0 down \n    else ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.12 up \n fi              that would start the ethernet connection on a local network or kill the connection depending on the start it was in.   but you can get much more specific help on that topic by providing more information on your specif11:56
stoftok, then I have no idea why your firefox is crashing. sry11:57
intelikeys/start/state/11:57
haldorstoft: thats alright not a huge issue. thanks for the help though. still learning about linux and loving it11:58
intelikey!cli11:58
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:58
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intelikeylinux' real strength ^11:58
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user-landwho maintains a ubuntu repository for applications not complying with open source licences ?11:59
Blissexuser-land: the Ubuntu project!12:00
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AppleSuxi have a problem with AmaroK .. anyone able to help?12:01
oreywhat the prob12:01
BlissexAppleSux: #amaroK perhaps?12:01
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AppleSuxhey orey - I click on anything like mp3/ogg/etc. and Amarok says playlist ended and just stops and plays no output. VLC works fine12:01
stoftAppleSux: same file as vlc?12:02
oreywhat distro are you using12:02
AppleSuxstoft - yes. kubuntu 612:02
BlissexAppleSux: check the restrictired formats page on the Wiki12:02
AppleSuxstoft - yes. kubuntu 6 patched as of today12:02
Blissex!restricted12:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:03
AppleSuxblissex - done that12:03
oreyyou have to download a package to get package to be able to play12:03
BlissexAppleSux: then you need to restart KDE...12:03
AppleSuxorey - already did that and loaded everything i need =( still not working12:03
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BlissexAppleSux: then  you are _doooooooooomed_. :-)12:04
h3sp4wnAppleSux: You don't need to restart kde12:04
AppleSuxmaybe i will just use VLC12:04
oreyhmmm try a different player12:04
oreyor12:04
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h3sp4wnAppleSux: What exactly is wrong with it ?12:04
BlissexAppleSux: open a Konsole and start 'amarok' from the command line, it will print error messages saying what is going on.12:04
oreyupgrade amarok12:04
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AppleSuxit doesnt play anything but says - playlist ended12:04
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slow-motionn812:05
AppleSuxX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:05
AppleSux  Major opcode:  14512:05
AppleSux  Minor opcode:  312:05
AppleSux  Resource id:  0x012:05
AppleSuxFailed to open device12:05
AppleSuxX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:05
AppleSux  Major opcode:  14512:05
AppleSux  Minor opcode:  312:05
AppleSux  Resource id:  0x012:05
AppleSuxFailed to open device12:05
AppleSuxamaroK: [Loader]  Starting amarokapp..12:05
AppleSuxamaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.12:05
AppleSuxX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:06
AppleSux  Major opcode:  14512:06
AppleSux  Minor opcode:  312:06
AppleSux  Resource id:  0x012:06
AppleSuxFailed to open device12:06
AppleSuxX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:06
AppleSux  Major opcode:  14512:06
AppleSux  Minor opcode:  312:06
AppleSux  Resource id:  0x012:06
AppleSuxFailed to open device12:06
AppleSuxQLayout: Adding KToolBar/mainToolBar (child of QVBox/unnamed) to layout for PlaylistWindow/PlaylistWindow12:06
AppleSuxScimInputContextPlugin()12:06
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AppleSuxsorry... too much output........ =(12:06
AppleSuxany ideas anyone?12:06
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stoftI think you've got the wrong sound device configured in amarok12:06
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AppleSuxstoft - where do i change that?12:07
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AppleSuxstoft - where do i change that? is it in engine settings?12:07
stoftcheckout the FAQ as well: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.0612:07
user-landblissex, i need this:12:07
user-landhttp://wiki.videolan.org/index.php/Common_Problems#AMR12:07

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