[12:09] <diego_cl> i cant get w32Codecs under "apt-get install w32Codecs"
[12:10] <diego_cl> i cant get w32Codecs under "apt-get install w32Codecs" / NOT FOUND ! ! !
[12:11] <diego_cl> is there a line to put in the source.lst to install this codecs??
[12:11] <yuriy> diego_cl: there's a repo you have to enable to get them (then disable it afterwards)
[12:11] <yuriy> yes.
[12:11] <diego_cl> and what is this repo ?
[12:12] <snikker> diego_cl: download the plugins from mPlayer web site
[12:12] <MuJ> there's now w32codecs package in dapper
[12:12] <yuriy> also, i believe it's w32codecs not capitalized
[12:12] <MuJ> no*
[12:16] <diego_cl> dapper
[12:16] <diego_cl> !dapper
[12:16] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[12:17] <thompa> i need someone to help me fix grub
[12:18] <diego_cl> If ubuntu 6.06 LTS have the w32Codecs.... WHY i dont have them when im using kubuntu 6.06   ! !
[12:18] <thompa> root hd0,0 not found for windows xp
[12:18] <thompa> no they dont
[12:18] <diego_cl> :T
[12:18] <thompa> !dvd
[12:18] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:19] <cplusplus> i media:/hda2/temp deleted every time??
[12:19] <cplusplus> s
[12:19] <crimsun> w32codecs are not part of either Ubuntu or Kubuntu (or Edubuntu or Xubuntu or Nubuntu or ...)
[12:20] <cpk1> Tommy2k4: the wacom thing didnt seem to work...
[12:20] <thompa> my grub menu shows to entries for windows
[12:20] <Woosta> How come the latest firefox-dom-inspector package and the latest firefox package are incompatible with each other? FF is 1.5.0.4 and dom-inspector is 1.5.0.3 .. is there an alternate repository with compatible packages?
[12:20] <cplusplus> is media:/hda2/temp deleted every time??
[12:20] <thompa> tw windows entry in grub and the first is xp wont boot\
[12:20] <cplusplus> if i restart?
[12:21] <thompa> cplusplus: its not mounted
[12:21] <MuJ> thompa: well do you have xp? :)
[12:21] <thompa> cplusplus: is it a seperate hard drive?
[12:21] <cplusplus> yes its a harddrive!
[12:21] <thompa> Muj: yes xp and a restore partition for windows
[12:21] <jbaloul> xgl works like a charm thanks guys
[12:22] <MuJ> thompa: on what disk is it? primary master?
[12:22] <cplusplus> thompa i installed kubuntu there!
[12:22] <cplusplus> but now all my data under temp are away?hm
[12:22] <thompa> all one disk,
[12:22] <cplusplus> tmp
[12:22] <cplusplus> not all on disk
[12:22] <cplusplus> just in directory tmp!
[12:22] <the_hammer> hmm something screwey here only seem to be getting sound from right speakers
[12:22] <diego_cl> IS KUBUNTU COMPATIBLE WITH RPM FILES ?!
[12:22] <thompa> Muj: ubuntu is on (hd0,3)
[12:22] <diego_cl> !rpm
[12:22] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[12:22] <LjL> !caps
[12:22] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:22] <thompa> sorry
[12:23] <MuJ> thompa: that's not what I asked :)
[12:23] <Woosta> diego_cl: try alien
[12:23] <cplusplus> thompa does kubuntu delete these files if i restart?
[12:23] <MuJ> thompa: so you have just one harddisk with 3 partitions on it?
[12:23] <MuJ> uumm... hd0,3 would make that 4
[12:23] <thompa> cplusplus: i would say you have to chage them to mount to /media
[12:24] <cplusplus> fuck all data are dlected?!
[12:24] <thompa> Muj: xp media on hd0,0 and windowsxp  (recovery) hd0,1
[12:24] <cplusplus> hmmmm could i restore it?
[12:25] <MuJ> thompa: well what does your menu.lst say then?
[12:25] <MuJ> and are you certain it's that way.. not other way around?
[12:25] <LjL> !language
[12:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:25] <thompa> Muj: well thats what is says, should i change the one thats recovery to the xp one?
[12:26] <thompa> it weird that its booting recovery or that it got entered
[12:26] <MuJ> change it other way around and try
[12:26] <wolfmanz> When you use Adept is there a way to get it to remove EVERYTHING that it installed for a app for example getting rid of not only the program you want gone but also getting rid of any dependacy files with it?
[12:26] <cplusplus> thompa could i restore the data?
[12:27] <thompa> cplusplus: what is the other drive?
[12:27] <thompa> Muj: thanks
[12:27] <cplusplus> why other drive?
[12:27] <thompa> cplusplus: is the second drive appearing as /temp?
[12:27] <cplusplus> i have hda2 hda5 hda6
[12:28] <thompa> media:/hda2/temp what is that?
[12:28] <cplusplus> on had2 i have the directories: home, debootstrap,...
[12:28] <cplusplus> and \tmp
[12:29] <diego_cl> with iExplorer and Firefox you can type only "google", then you press control+enter and you get to www.google.com.... is there a way to do the same with konqueror ??!?
[12:29] <thompa> cplusplus: oh sorry
[12:29] <cplusplus> ??
[12:30] <LjL> wolfmanz: no
[12:30] <LjL> !aptitude
[12:30] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:30] <thompa> cplusplus: i dont know what you are trying to do, i had a couple hard drives, i mounted it only
[12:31] <thompa> it was showing up as a temp file the seperate hard drive
[12:31] <cplusplus> but why are my data deleted? could i recorver it? hmmm
[12:31] <thompa> i dont know what your problem is if its not one with mounting
[12:31] <thompa> cplusplus: its a linux folder right?
[12:32] <cplusplus> yeah
[12:32] <BKaj> !Xgl Kubuntu
[12:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about Xgl Kubuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:32] <thompa> cplusplus: well who created the folder some app or you
[12:32] <BKaj> !Xgl
[12:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:32] <cplusplus> i think kubuntu created it furing installation
[12:33] <thompa> cplusplus: do View: Hidden Files
[12:33] <cplusplus> how?
[12:33] <thompa> in konqueror
[12:33] <thompa> from the menu
[12:34] <cplusplus> hm
[12:34] <cplusplus> i cant see my files!
[12:34] <cplusplus> i enabled hidden files!
[12:35] <thompa> cplusplus: is that partiton a different distro?
[12:36] <cplusplus> hda2 is the kubuntu partition
[12:36] <cplusplus> i just use kubuntu here
[12:37] <thompa> media:/hda2/temp is another partition
[12:37] <Ashex> there wouldn't happen to be a way to install kubuntu to another hard disk while in kubuntu
[12:37] <Ashex> would there?
[12:37] <cplusplus> hm..could u help me with ssh?
[12:38] <thompa> its not the one kubuntu is installed in?
[12:38] <Ashex> nope
[12:38] <ivis> =] 
[12:38] <Ashex> I got myself a 300GB drive, and I'm going to by moving my install to it
[12:38] <oomph_7> i got a laptop and a secondary monitor hooked up to a docking station
[12:38] <oomph_7> my laptop lcd identifies as monitor 2
[12:38] <Ashex> but there are little querks with this install, so i don't plan on imaging
[12:38] <oomph_7> how do I make it monitor1?
[12:39] <thompa> cplusplus: media:/hda2/temp is another partition
[12:39] <cplusplus> thompa on hda2 i installed kubuntu
[12:39] <cplusplus> how could i find out?
[12:39] <Ashex> although, i'm not sure if it would be possible to if i could
[12:39] <Ashex> i want to isntall 64-bit kubuntu but i'm running 32-bit
[12:40] <thompa> Ashex: i had to boot live to other disk
[12:40] <Ashex> Hmm
[12:40] <thompa> cplusplus: click konqueror .storage media
[12:40] <Ashex> alright, i'll just reboot off the 64 live disc
[12:41] <thompa> cplusplus: what do you see?
[12:41] <thompa> Ashex: i just got 64
[12:41] <cplusplus> 0 elements
[12:41] <Ashex> thompa, how is it?
[12:41] <thompa> Ashex: it was a little slow at boot, but after install it rocks
[12:41] <Ashex> Sweetness
[12:41] <thompa> i would have to say unbelievable performance
[12:42] <Ashex> I just bought a new mobo and cpu :D
[12:42] <thompa> its like my box is not even on
[12:42] <Ashex> so to celebrate i'm going to do a fresh install of kubuntu with 64-bit version
[12:42] <thompa> do it
[12:42] <Ashex> Heh, will do
[12:42] <cplusplus> thompa ok
[12:42] <thompa> there is a link to the codecs you know
[12:42] <thompa> ahh too late
[12:43] <cplusplus> ?
[12:43] <thompa> he left
[12:43] <thompa> cplusplus: so whats there how many hard drives?
[12:43] <cplusplus> 3
[12:43] <centyx> does anyone know where the prog/ folder is with the ubuntu lm-sensors package?
[12:44] <centyx> n/m i see it didn't come with it
[12:44] <thompa> cplusplus: my stupid way of doing it, open them and find /home directory with your name in it
[12:44] <centyx> hrm
[12:44] <thompa> cplusplus: or right click propertys
[12:45] <cplusplus> media:/hda2/home/gerald
[12:45] <thompa> cplusplus: mine is sda1, sda4 is mounted in media
[12:47] <thompa> cplusplus: go to home/gerald in konqueror, if thats it your in right directory,
[12:47] <cplusplus> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ihBtZg32.htm
[12:47] <thompa> dont put anything in temp, for me only amule created that
[12:47] <cplusplus> <-- my partitions!
[12:48] <cplusplus> i am on media:/hda2/home/gerald now?
[12:48] <thompa> cplusplus: i dont have a /temp in my home folder
[12:49] <cplusplus> tmp !!
[12:49] <cplusplus> not the home folder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:49] <cplusplus> just hda\tmp
[12:49] <thompa> ok
[12:49] <cplusplus> hda2\tmp
[12:49] <thompa> well thats not for stuff you want to keep
[12:50] <cplusplus> did kubuntu deleted my files?
[12:50] <thompa> there should be a few things there
[12:50] <cplusplus> yeah i few things
[12:50] <cplusplus> but my data are deleted;/
[12:50] <cplusplus> shit!!
[12:51] <cplusplus> .X11-unix, kde-geraldm, ksocket-gerald ...
[12:51] <thompa> config files, you cant put data there. use /home/xxxxxx
[12:51] <tux_> #mexico
[12:52] <cplusplus> yeah its too late now thompa!
[12:52] <thompa> cplusplus: try searching file name or part of
[12:52] <thompa> cplusplus: they may have gone somewhere else
[12:54] <RawSewage> anyone using Edgy
[12:54] <thompa> cplusplus: /tmp directory is cleared out at boot or at shutdown by the local system
[12:54] <cplusplus> thompa nice
[12:54] <cplusplus> its too late;/
[12:54] <RawSewage> I already know about the Edgy channel.  just wondering if anyone's using it yet
[12:55] <thompa> cplusplus: compliance with IEEE standard P1003.2
[12:55] <Ashex> Wee
[12:55] <Ashex> even the live cd is pretty zippy
[12:55] <RawSewage> for what
[12:55] <thompa> cplusplus: sorry dude
[12:55] <cplusplus> thompa could i recover it?
[12:56] <Ashex> 64-bit kubuntu
[12:56] <dabugas> hi
[12:56] <thompa> cplusplus: i dont think so
[12:56] <dabugas> does anyone know how to play H264/MPEG-4 AVC with xine?
[12:56] <cplusplus> fucking kubuntu
[12:56] <thompa> cplusplus: what was there mind if i ask?
[12:56] <thompa> cplusplus: i lost a large doc once
[12:56] <the_hammer> boo
[12:56] <tux_> hello
[12:57] <the_hammer> cant seem to get my sound working properly
[12:57] <thompa> Ashex: ;)
[12:57] <the_hammer> only plays out of right channel
[12:57] <thompa> Ashex: do you have the link for codecs and flash?
[12:57] <the_hammer> doubt any of ya be able to help me im using ultima
[12:57] <Ashex> !codec
[12:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about codec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:57] <Ashex> Bah
[12:57] <Ashex> !flash
[12:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:57] <h3sp4wn> !code
[12:57] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[12:57] <thompa> i got them for you
[12:58] <h3sp4wn> !listen
[12:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about listen - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:58] <thompa> Ashex: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[12:59] <thompa> Ashex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[12:59] <thompa> cplusplus: you cant store stuff in /tmp
[12:59] <cplusplus> nice
[01:00] <thompa> maybe its too easy
[01:00] <Ashex> holy hell
[01:00] <Ashex> this drive is huge
[01:00] <thompa> there should maybe be a warning or something for some things, but i hate those
[01:00] <Ashex> thanks thompa
[01:01] <thompa> Ashex: can you list specs here
[01:01] <thompa> Ashex: there was a command for it
[01:01] <luc45> how do i know if my video card has video capturing capabilities?
[01:01] <luc45> it is a nvidia fx 5500
[01:02] <Ashex> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 2412 MHz (4829 bogomips), , RAM: 625/1004MB, 122 proc's, 11.53min up
[01:02] <OOD> luc45: what do you mean by video capturing abilities?
[01:02] <thompa> Ashex: mines amd 64 X@ 4200+ 250G
[01:02] <Ashex> They're sweet, aren't they?
[01:02] <shoop> hi. i just installed ati drivers and did a reboot and now my system doesnt boot anymore, the only thing that i see is the kubuntu logo with some black background
[01:03] <luc45> OOD: ability to copy vhs to dvd with the correct software
[01:03] <meltdown> Hey, does anyone know anything about artsd/alsa? Sound isn't working on my computer, and both of these seem to be operational...
[01:03] <meltdown> I can't for the life of me find a descriptive error message
[01:03] <thompa> Ashex: what did you type in irc for that?
[01:04] <thompa> Ashex: update it, it gets better
[01:04] <RawSewage> meltdown, what sound
[01:04] <the_hammer> i feel your pain meltdown i only have sound from 1 side
[01:04] <RawSewage> meltdown, are you new, and dont know about mp3 support
[01:04] <OOD> luc45: i don't think that's video card specific as long as you can connect all the hardware needed
[01:04] <Ashex> thompa: type /sysinfo
[01:04] <thompa> my fault i had caps
[01:04] <thompa> Sysinfo for 'NEUZUM3': Linux 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4200+ at 1002 MHz (2007 bogomips), , RAM: 656/1948MB, 128 proc's, 52.24min up
[01:05] <meltdown> No, I had sound working perfectly before, MP3 playback included, but when I uninstalled Cedega (tried it - nothing worked at all), it sound stopped working
[01:05] <RawSewage> oh
[01:05] <meltdown> I don't know if they're related or not
[01:05] <luc45> OOD: what?
[01:05] <RawSewage> I dont know why that would affect it
[01:05] <meltdown> Sysinfo for 'Xavius': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)Mprocessor1.50GHz at 1496 MHz (2996 bogomips), , RAM: 435/439MB, 112 proc's, 10.23min up
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> Sysinfo for 'spacecat': Linux 2.6.17.6-rt7-v2 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ at 1913 MHz (3829 bogomips), HD: 34/110GB, RAM: 986/1003MB, 128 proc's, 13.29h up
[01:05] <luc45> OOD: http://video-editing-software-review.toptenreviews.com/copy-vhs-to-dvd.html
[01:06] <thompa> ash: yours says 2412 MHz
[01:06] <OOD> luc45: i said, i don't converting from vhs to dvd is sometihng video card specific
[01:06] <OOD> luc45: as long  you you can connect all the hardware together
[01:06] <thompa> ash: i think its too high
[01:06] <Ashex> thompa: What's wrong with 2.4?
[01:06] <Ashex> :p
[01:06] <meltdown> RawSewage: Do you have any idea where I might be able to find an error message that could provide some hint as to why it's not working? I'm getting nothing from starting/stopping the Sound server
[01:06] <Woosta> How come the latest firefox-dom-inspector package and the latest firefox package are incompatible with each other? FF is 1.5.0.4 and dom-inspector is 1.5.0.3 .. is there an alternate repository with compatible packages?
[01:07] <thompa> ash: nothing just kidding
[01:07] <RawSewage> meltdown,  Im not being facetious, but did you check the speaker volume and speaker power
[01:07] <luc45> OOD: well i need to record the video to my computer
[01:07] <meltdown> Yeah - none of the mixer settings have changed
[01:07] <thompa> h3sprwn: show off
[01:07] <RawSewage> meltdown, and did you check PCM in the mixer
[01:07] <luc45> OOD: how will i do that without a Video Capture Card
[01:07] <luc45> OOD: ?
[01:07] <meltdown> RawSewage: yep
[01:07] <RawSewage> meltdown,  no idea
[01:07] <RawSewage> sorry
[01:08] <OOD> luc45: this isn't really linux spefic you know
[01:08] <thompa> ash: you need to update the kernel anyway
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> thompa: I am running edgy (so putting 2.6.17 on it is alot easier)
[01:08] <luc45> OOD: i know but i need help
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> thompa: kanotix would be similarly upto date
[01:08] <Ashex> Heh
[01:08] <the_hammer> what commands would ya use in x-terminal
[01:08] <the_hammer> anyone know
[01:08] <Ashex> I clocked my xp 1800 to 2Ghz once
[01:08] <Ashex> ran for about 2 minutes
[01:08] <luc45> OOD: can we talk in pvt msg
[01:09] <luc45> OOD: ?
[01:09] <shoop> hm
[01:09] <shoop> anyone with an answer on my question?
[01:09] <shoop> i just installed ati drivers and did a reboot and now my system doesnt boot anymore, the only thing that i see is the kubuntu logo with some black background
[01:09] <OOD> luc45: i wouldn't really know how to help you, since i don't know much about tv->computer connections
[01:09] <OOD> and there's more of a chance that someone else might know the solution to your problem if you say it here
[01:10] <supertanker> Hello
[01:10] <thompa> Ashex: is the Mhz half for duo
[01:10] <OOD> thompa: what?
[01:10] <supertanker> I cannot figure out how in the h=ll to use aptitude
[01:10] <meltdown> Does anyone have any idea where I can find out more information on the status of Alsa and aRts?
[01:10] <OOD> supertanker: just like apt-get
[01:10] <the_hammer> lol sure is fun seeking the commands for the terminals in this os
[01:10] <thompa> OOD: what what?
[01:10] <luc45> OOD: k thx anyway
[01:10] <OOD> thompa: what's the half mhz duo? :P
[01:11] <supertanker> When I installed Kubuntu and looked at Adept from the Live CD, it said there are a LOT of packages (php, etc) but afterwards I install nothing will let me get to them
[01:11] <Ashex> thompa: depends, if it's a 1.6Ghz duo, then it'll run at the same speed as a 3ghz, not 3.2
[01:11] <Ashex> it depends on the load and usage
[01:11] <supertanker> I did apt-cdrom add, etc. but it IGN's my cd
[01:11] <supertanker> and do I have to boot to the live cd desktop to install, or is there a good old fasioned command line installer like in 5.10
[01:11] <RawSewage> meltdown, does this link work;  http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=6890327
[01:11] <thompa> Ashex: your is twice mine
[01:12] <meltdown> RawSewage: Yes - I was just looking there
[01:12] <OOD> Ashex: where'd you get 3.0ghz and not 3.2?
[01:12] <supertanker> so how do I get these "phantom packages"? And don't say I have to download them, I'm on dialup...
[01:13] <OOD> supertanker: i don't understand what you're trying to do exactly
[01:13] <supertanker> And last thing, Aptitude reports all my packages as virtuall. Seing as I accidentally used Adept to PURGE zlib...which includes purging adept itself...how do I reinstall a "virtual package"
[01:13] <Ashex> OOD, i tested it at a lab awhile back. Pitted a 3.0 ghz amd against a dual-core intel 1.6Ghz
[01:14] <OOD> Ashex:.. umm... an amd against a dual-core intel?
[01:14] <angasule> !java
[01:14] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:14] <supertanker> OOD: When I booted the new Live CD, I ran Adept (from the CD) it said there were a whole bunch of packages, like PHP, Bison, etc. But after I installed it to my hard driver, I want to install them as well. But I cannot find them. Apparently they aren't on the CD
[01:14] <OOD> Ashex: you realize that they're 2 different arthitecture?
[01:14] <Ashex> er, intel >.<
[01:14] <supertanker> where are they?
[01:14] <thompa> OOD: im confused, if mine shows up as 2 processors is tha why MHZ is half of other one?
[01:14] <RawSewage> Ubuntu is featured on Faux News:  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,204637,00.html
[01:14] <Ashex> I meant to say intel
[01:14] <Ashex> Although, don't trust me on what i say, i'm not a professional yet
[01:15] <supertanker> and where are the package files actually at on the CD?
[01:15] <OOD> Ashex: the Pentium and Core Duo are 2 different architecture as well, if that's what you're comparing
[01:15] <Ashex> That's a good point
[01:15] <supertanker> I looked in 'pool' but only some of them are there
[01:15] <thompa> OOD: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4200+ at 1002 MHz
[01:15] <OOD> supertanker: no, those packages are in the ubuntu repositories on the net
[01:16] <Ashex> thompa: that confused me for a second
[01:16] <supertanker> then why does it show it in Adept when i'm NOT online?
[01:16] <Ashex> until i read dual core :p
[01:16] <OOD> thompa: athlon64 cpus have cool n quiet, so they clock down when they're not being used
[01:16] <RawSewage> meltdown, maybe try asking in #Ubuntu too
[01:16] <RawSewage> meltdown, or #KDE
[01:16] <meltdown> RawSewage: Ok, I'll try those
[01:16] <shoop> anyone knows the problem with my video driver? :/
[01:16] <thompa> OOD: ok
[01:16] <thompa> thats nice to know
[01:16] <OOD> supertanker: because you've downloaded the list of all the packages
[01:16] <supertanker> Also, Aptitude won't show any packages, even ones that are on the CD. It ignores my CD for some reason. No error message, just "IGN cdrom kubuntu blah blah blah..."
[01:17] <supertanker> i did apt-cdrom add
[01:17] <OOD> supertankr: but to download them you need the internet
[01:17] <Ashex> shoop: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:17] <supertanker> and its in the apt list
[01:17] <Ashex> Alright
[01:17] <Ashex> time to reboot
[01:17] <supertanker> My main problem now is I mangaged to purge aptitude and most of my KDE files off of my computer
[01:17] <Ashex> I'll return momentarily
[01:17] <shoop> not yet im just new to linux for 3 days now
[01:17] <Ashex> okay
[01:17] <supertanker> and Aptitude won't let me reinstall, because A it won't get the packages from the CD and B all of them are "virtual"
[01:17] <shoop> so hm im gonne try it
[01:17] <OOD> supertanker: then you should probably reinstall the distro again
[01:17] <shoop> thanks
[01:18] <Ashex> no problem
[01:18] <supertanker> Why does it list them all as Virtual?
[01:18] <supertanker> it sure is a good thing I always make a seperate /home parttion then...
[01:19] <OOD> supertanker: i dont know, but if you're purged most of your packages then it'd be a good idea to reinstall the whole os
[01:22] <cplusplus> does someone know Midnight Commander ?
[01:23] <OOD> cplusplus: haven't used it, what about it?
[01:23] <cplusplus> i want to install it
[01:24] <OOD> ok, it's in the repository
[01:24] <cplusplus> where is it?
[01:24] <OOD> run adept and seach for it
[01:24] <supertanker_> sorry, Fedora kicked me off a second...just one last thing: do I HAVE to boot all through the Live CD to the desktop to install? because it sure is a pain in the booty and takes a long time. Is there a text-mode installer like in Ubuntu 5.10?
[01:25] <cplusplus> adept Mightnight Commander ?
[01:25] <OOD> supertanker: yes there is, but you'd have to download the alternate install cd
[01:25] <supertanker_> what....NOOOOOOOOOOO
[01:25] <OOD> cplusplus: no, just run adept
[01:26] <OOD> then search for midnight commander
[01:26] <supertanker_> That is sorta out of the question...you try downloading a CD at 2.4 kbs
[01:26] <OOD> yea, i had dialup some time ago, not fun
[01:26] <thompa> im having a problem in grub booting XP
[01:26] <supertanker_> Warning: Extreme understatement alert
[01:27] <the_hammer> lol friends dont let friends use dial up
[01:27] <supertanker_> so I basically just have to put up with the live installer? that sucks...
[01:27] <supertanker_> And I don't think Shipit sends you the other special disks
[01:27] <cplusplus> Midnight Commande is not found
[01:27] <OOD> cplusplus: try searching for just one word
[01:28] <ashex> okay, that didn't work too well
[01:28] <cplusplus> nothing found
[01:28] <cplusplus> Midnight not found Commander notfound
[01:28] <ashex> i haven't a clue what happened, but Grub wasn't setup as it should have been
[01:28] <OOD> cplusplus: the package is mc
[01:28] <thompa> sda 1 is noot booting, but sda2 is which is my restore partition for XP
[01:29] <supertanker_> Are you sure there isn't a text-base installer? that sucks
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> thompa: make an ext3 partition on sda2 ?
[01:29] <cplusplus> ok i found it
[01:29] <the_hammer> get rid of windows xp and all your problems are solved :)
[01:29] <ashex> Mine didn't boot at all :(
[01:29] <cplusplus> where is mc installed now????
[01:29] <supertanker_> Yeah just format over windows
[01:30] <thompa> h3sp4wn: how can i do that i want the crap windows still
[01:30] <OOD> cplusplus: open terminal and type: mc
[01:30] <OOD> that'll start it
[01:30] <cplusplus> ood
[01:30] <cplusplus> if mc is installed on hda2 thats not  good
[01:30] <cplusplus> if i want to recover data from hda2
[01:30] <the_hammer> you poor soul how can ya want windows..have you been drinking?
[01:31] <cplusplus> do you understand?
[01:31] <OOD> cplusplus: no i dont
[01:31] <thompa> h3sp4wn: xp is (hd0,0) but its not booting. disk read error
[01:31] <OOD> but all the programs install on the root partitions
[01:31] <OOD> that's how it works
[01:31] <ashex> chainloader +1
[01:31] <h3sp4wn> thompa: Not interesting in xp at all sorry
[01:31] <thompa> yes im drinking
[01:31] <ashex> thompa: that needs to be in the grub entry for xp
[01:32] <the_hammer> that explains why ya want xp lol
[01:32] <thompa> ashex: is there a way to fix grub
[01:32] <the_hammer> no one in their right mind would want a windows product
[01:32] <ashex> thompa: /boot/grub
[01:32] <ashex> or something like that
[01:32] <ashex> lemme double check
[01:32] <thompa> the_hammer: i want it for a flight sim thats all
[01:32] <OOD> the_hammer: so that's why 99% of the world uses windows :D
[01:32] <the_hammer> lol ya
[01:33] <thompa> im not drunk yet
[01:33] <ashex>  I use windows for video editing
[01:33] <cplusplus> ood now save upgrade?
[01:33] <cplusplus> safe
[01:33] <ashex> gimme a program that works as good or better then Adobe Premiere 2.0, and i'd use it
[01:33] <the_hammer> im 100 % linux and never going back
[01:33] <OOD> cplusplus: what?
[01:33] <cplusplus> if i install it
[01:33] <cplusplus> i have to upgrade
[01:33] <OOD> upgrade what?
[01:34] <cplusplus> full or safe?
[01:34] <ashex> thompa: inside /boot there's a grub folder, in there is menu.lst
[01:34] <cplusplus> mc!
[01:34] <thompa> ashex: yes i am there
[01:34] <ashex> you have to modify the entry for xp, i don't remember the details though
[01:34] <OOD> cplusplus: i have no idea what you're taling about
[01:34] <cplusplus> mc: status: not installed: action: install
[01:34] <thompa> !grub
[01:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:34] <ashex> it's usually easier to install linux after xp :/
[01:34] <thompa> ahsex: i did, it wont boot though
[01:35] <OOD> ashex: depends on the distro ;)
[01:35] <OOD> ashex: give someone gentoo to install and they'll freak out and never touch a computer again :P
[01:35] <thompa> ashex: i mean i did, i defragged it forst then shrunk it
[01:35] <ashex> OOD, when grub is being setup, it's supposed to check the MBR beforehand and assimilate the entries into itself
[01:35] <OOD> ashex: yes
[01:36] <thompa> so im hossed by xp as usaul
[01:36] <OOD> thompa: what happened?
[01:36] <ashex> my guess is that grub thinks the xp partition is ext3 for some reason
[01:36] <ashex> thompa: if you REALLY want to, you can flash the mbr back to windows :p
[01:36] <thompa> OOD: i cant boot into windows, only kubuntu and the restore partition
[01:37] <OOD> thompa: actually do that, restore the windows mbr
[01:37] <OOD> then boot from the live cd and resore grub
[01:37] <ashex> sure, take all the credit <_<
[01:37] <the_hammer> gosh you guys are making me thirsty all this xp talk makes me wanna get drunk lol
[01:37] <thompa> OOD: i think the problem is that the restore partion has an entry maybe?
[01:37] <OOD> nvm that won't work
[01:38] <OOD> won't work
[01:38] <thompa> OOD: so i should restore windows mbr , then boot live to fix grub
[01:38] <OOD> thompa: no, that won't work
[01:38] <OOD> you'll just be back to square 1
[01:38] <ashex> thompa: can you pastebin menu.lst
[01:39] <thompa> OOD: what if i delete the restore partition
[01:39] <thompa> maybe reinstall
[01:39] <thompa> ok
[01:39] <thompa> !pastebin
[01:39] <cplusplus> there was an error commining changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.. now?
[01:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:39] <serialzkiller> hai children of the night
[01:39] <ashex> night? it's 4:40!
[01:40] <serialzkiller> not in my country
[01:40] <ashex> and now i gotta call my aunt and let her yell at me for not coming over yet
[01:40] <serialzkiller> its 1;40
[01:40] <thompa> ashex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18471
[01:40] <cplusplus> OOD ?
[01:40] <Dasnipa`> serialzkiller, scandinavia?
[01:40] <thompa> ashex: dont go yet
[01:40] <cplusplus> there was an error commining changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.. now?
[01:40] <ashex> i'm just calling her :p
[01:40] <ashex> I'll be here for awhile
[01:40] <serialzkiller> no wardriving in belgium
[01:40] <serialzkiller> :)
[01:41] <thompa> ashex: if i cant fix grub i will have to delete the restore partition maybe start over
[01:41] <OOD> cplusplus: install perfectly over here
[01:41] <thompa> ashex: i also tried switching the entries but that does no good
[01:42] <cplusplus> ?
[01:42] <OOD> cplusplus: what distro are you using
[01:42] <cplusplus> over what?
[01:42] <cplusplus> kubuntu
[01:42] <OOD> what version?
[01:42] <cplusplus> breezer
[01:42] <ashex> thompa: comment out the restore partition
[01:42] <OOD> you should upgrade to dapper
[01:42] <cplusplus> not now!!
[01:42] <cplusplus> ;)
[01:42] <serialzkiller> until now kubuntu rules but phlax is still better
[01:42] <thompa> ashex: how could that help
[01:43] <ashex> actually, that probably won't do anything...
[01:43] <OOD> that might be why it's not working, it needs dependencies that breezy doesn't have
[01:43] <ashex> I was thinking that it may have been a conflict, but grub doesn't work that way
[01:43] <cplusplus> i whant to restore files!
[01:43] <cplusplus> i cant upgrade now_!!
[01:43] <the_hammer> killer ya should try out ultima its awsome
[01:43] <thompa> ashex: i tried changing the entires already
[01:43] <thompa> ashex: i need to reinstall grub somehow
[01:43] <ashex> use the livecd to reinstall grub
[01:43] <thompa> ashex: maybe use knoppix
[01:44] <the_hammer> lol knoppix
[01:44] <serialzkiller> ultima ???? thx for the hint i will look for it
[01:44] <thompa> ashex: even if i reinstall grub, what should that do
[01:44] <the_hammer> its pretty decent im ussing it now its based off of slackware
[01:44] <thompa> ashex: if i cant change entries its hosed
[01:45] <the_hammer> options in this puppy are endless heh
[01:45] <serialzkiller> hmm slackware very smooth my server is running at i
[01:45] <serialzkiller> hmm slackware very smooth my server is running at it
[01:45] <ashex> thompa: it might have just been an error with grub when it was being installed
[01:45] <ashex> there's always the possibility of that occuring
[01:45] <ashex> so, you can either try reinstalling grub, or deleting that partition
[01:46] <ashex> I'm pretty much out of ideas for the tmoment
[01:46] <the_hammer> got my copy from bittorent couldnt find it for download anywhere else but ya might get lucky
[01:46] <thompa> ashex: maybe, then i am going to have to reinstall mbr with windows, then reinstall grub.
[01:46] <the_hammer> get most of my shit from bittorent
[01:46] <serialzkiller> i Have to drive !!!! cops at 1 a clock
[01:46] <serialzkiller> by guys
[01:46] <thompa> ashex: or go to windows delete restroe partition reinstall grub
[01:46] <ashex> yeah
[01:46] <thompa> thats ok
[01:46] <ashex> try all the options you can think of
[01:47] <ashex> i'll be back
[01:47] <thompa> i jsut need to get rid of the restore partition
[01:47] <ashex> booting into kubuntu finally
[01:47] <thompa> 9G
[01:47] <thompa> it will play better when its out of bios
[01:50] <cplusplus> hm
[01:50] <cplusplus> ood whant could i do now?
[01:50] <cplusplus> what
[01:51] <Ashex|laptop> Grrr!
[01:51] <Ashex|laptop> Kubuntu is still not booting
[01:51] <Ashex|laptop> all i get is a blinking cursor
[01:52] <Ashex|laptop> !sata
[01:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about sata - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:52] <Ashex|laptop> bah
[01:54] <Ashex|laptop> Did everyone die when i left?
[01:54] <Woosta> [09:53]  *** Ashex|laptop is now known as Ashex.
[01:54] <Woosta> [09:53]  *** Ashex is now known as Ashex|laptop.
[01:54] <Woosta> Did you drop your laptop?
[01:54] <Ashex|laptop> Ha
[01:54] <Ashex|laptop> no :p
[01:54] <wolfmanz> how do i get a script to run every 5 minutes ?
[01:55] <Woosta> wolfmanz: cron
[01:55] <Ashex|laptop> :/ this is non-sensical
[01:55] <Ashex|laptop> i just installed kubuntu64 to my desktop, but it doesn't boot
[01:55] <Ashex|laptop> like, nothing happens, it's not even getting to grub stage 1.5
[01:56] <cpk1> is it the only partition?
[01:56] <cplusplus> how can i install midnight commander at kubuntu breezer?? hm
[01:56] <Ashex|laptop> cpk1, yes
[01:56] <Ashex|laptop> other then the swap of course
[01:57] <Ashex|laptop> the first time around i set the partitions myself so as to have space for windows, but i had the same error
[01:57] <Ashex|laptop> so i reinstalled
[01:57] <Ashex|laptop> this is on a 300GB Sata drive
[01:58] <cplusplus> ??
[01:58] <Ashex|laptop> cplusplus, apt-get it
[01:58] <Ashex|laptop> or grab the sources and compile
[01:58] <Ashex|laptop> but do apt-cache search to find it
[01:58] <cplusplus> apt-get mc ?
[01:58] <Ashex|laptop> i haven't a clue
[01:59] <Ashex|laptop> apt-cache search midnight commander
[01:59] <I_Eat_Plastic> How do I play wmv file format?
[01:59] <Ashex|laptop> try that first
[01:59] <Ashex|laptop> !video
[01:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about video - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:59] <Ashex|laptop> !codecs
[01:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:59] <cplusplus> -> apt-cache search midnight commander
[01:59] <Ashex|laptop> yes
[01:59] <cplusplus> mc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager
[01:59] <cplusplus> mc is the name!
[01:59] <coachJ> cant play wmv
[01:59] <Ashex|laptop> okay
[01:59] <cplusplus> now?
[01:59] <Ashex|laptop> then apt-get install mc
[02:00] <Ashex|laptop> !tell coachJ about codecs
[02:00] <cplusplus> error
[02:00] <Ashex|laptop> what's the error
[02:00] <Ashex|laptop> pastebin it
[02:00] <cplusplus> do you understand german?;)
[02:00] <Kr4t05> cplusplus: makesure to use "sudo" before it.
[02:00] <Ashex|laptop> nope
[02:00] <Ashex|laptop> oh yeah, forgot about that part >_>
[02:00] <cplusplus> ah i forgot sudo;/
[02:01] <Kr4t05> *cough*
[02:01] <cplusplus> seems to work
[02:01] <cplusplus> i hate kubuntu!
[02:01] <cplusplus> ;/
[02:01] <Kr4t05> :<
[02:01] <cplusplus> all my data are deleted by kubuntu;//
[02:01] <Kr4t05> cplusplus: I doubt that.
[02:02] <Kr4t05> cplusplus: methinks you just did something wrong...
[02:02] <cplusplus> how could i recover my files with mc?
[02:02] <Ashex|laptop> man mc?
[02:02] <cplusplus> midnight commander
[02:02] <Ashex|laptop> yeah, run man mc
[02:02] <Kr4t05> cplusplus: if you lost them when you installed Kubuntu, then you can forget about it.
[02:02] <Ashex|laptop> check the man for it
[02:03] <Ashex|laptop> I've never used it before
[02:03] <dan_> hey anyone get tor to work on kubuntu
[02:04] <dan_> guess not
[02:04] <dan_> ok...
[02:05] <dan_> really didnt mean to offend anyone
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> maybe someone can I have never tried it
[02:06] <dan_> well actually i'm trying to install a lib file that i need for it
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> I don't think anyone was offended though - just wait a bit longer - its not a common request
[02:06] <dan_> tzones
[02:06] <dan_> it must be broken
[02:06] <dan_> tzdata i mean
[02:06] <dan_> lol
[02:06] <Ashex> feh
[02:06] <Ashex> do i need to do any special modification when installing to a sata drive?
[02:07] <cplusplus> hm
[02:07] <cplusplus> apt-cache search magicrescue is not found;/
[02:08] <dan_> well maybe someone can tell me why, when i try to install tzdata_2006g-2 it tells me that it cant replace one of the files it needs to replace
[02:08] <Ashex> you doing it as sudo?
[02:09] <dan_> yup
[02:09] <dan_> its weird
[02:09] <dan_> i even deleted the file it wants to replace and still
[02:09] <dan_> you think that might be a bug?
[02:10] <crimsun> I dist-upgraded yesterday just fine. What's the precise error?
[02:10] <Ashex> pastebin the error
[02:10] <corey> could someone tell me how i can play MP3 files in Kaffeine
[02:11] <dan_> who me?
[02:11] <dan_> error overwriting file
[02:12] <dan_> well i'll check back later
[02:13] <crimsun> corey: install libxine-extracodecs
[02:13] <crimsun> !restricted > corey
[02:13] <I_Eat_Plastic> !codec
[02:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about codec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:13] <I_Eat_Plastic> !video
[02:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about video - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:15] <dan_> i really dont know why its not working
[02:15] <cplusplus> apt-cache search magicrescue is not found;/ how could i intall it?
[02:18] <sorush20> guys karm is not allowing me to save data and add new tasks.. I can add them but then after a reboot they are all lost..
[02:18] <TFrog> is there a wireless guru in the house?
[02:19] <sorush20> not a guru? but user? what chip are you using/
[02:20] <dan_> has anyone tried installing tzdata_2006g-2?
[02:20] <TFrog> sorush20, i'm using a Broadcom BCM4318. got it up with ndiswrapper but can't get it to boot to the desktop without losing the configuration and having to reenter it after making the desktop
[02:21] <sorush20> what do you mean boot to the desktop?/
[02:21] <dan_> tzdata_2006g-2?
[02:21] <FunnyLookinHat> hey there helpmeee
[02:21] <TFrog> in other words, i'd like to not have to use Knetworkmanger to reload the essid and WPA-PSK key to get back up wirelessly
[02:22] <FunnyLookinHat> Reason I came here was because I'm not familiar with KDE and I forget what script is run when you start it up
[02:22] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat:  hella
[02:22] <FunnyLookinHat> maybe micahcowan knows?
[02:22] <tmdx120> Hello room. How do I get my USB drive to be automatically recognized. It used to be easy until I upgraded to dapper
[02:22] <helpmeee> I have no idea
[02:22] <micahcowan> FunnyLookinHat: I don't... I don't think it should matter whether it's KDE or Gnome, though, there should still be an .xsession or .xinitrc or something. I don't know which, though.
[02:23] <FunnyLookinHat> micahcowan, yea i'm not seeing an .xsession  hmmm
[02:23] <sorush20> I would recommend using MAC filter if you want your computer to access your router only. Instead of WPA-PSK, but what you are saying seemes to me to be a badly configured /etc/network/interfaces file.
[02:23] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[02:23] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, sorry, do this
[02:23] <sorush20> paste it for me into a paste bin and I'll see what i can do.
[02:23] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[02:24] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat: im there
[02:24] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, see the line: # global xinitrc file, used by all X sessions started by xinit (startx) ?
[02:24] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, right after it put this line
[02:24] <TFrog> i've done some reading on that in the forums sorush20. still haven't come across anything positive yet. i guess i'll live with the headache for now. gave up the MS monopoly on the laptop for good from the looks of it
[02:24] <micahcowan> helpmeee, FunnyLookinHat, I wouldn't put it there, actually.
[02:24] <tmdx120> bye for now.
[02:25] <micahcowan> One consequence of setting the AUDIODRIVER like that is that you can only have one program using dsp sound at a time. So if you have other programs open, you're buggered.
[02:25] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=dsp
[02:25] <FunnyLookinHat> micahcowan, wooops...  where then?
[02:25] <dan_> tzdata_2006g-2 anyone know whats wrong with this package?
[02:25] <sorush20> its not really that hard, once you set it up once and set it to load onboot it should be okay..
[02:25] <FunnyLookinHat> hmm, best idea would be to make a bash script I suppose
[02:25] <micahcowan> It would only apply for SDL programs so it might be okay....
[02:25] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat: should I cause micahcowan said maybe I shouldnt
[02:26] <TFrog> well, the wireless loads on boot. just won't authenticate with the router on boot
[02:26] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, I can see that  : )
[02:26] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat:  lol
[02:26] <micahcowan> But I think it's better to do it in a local file (.xinitrc?) rather than global changes (although I suppose he's the only user)
[02:26] <FunnyLookinHat> micahcowan, it should be ok since we install SDL just for this one game
[02:26] <FunnyLookinHat> micahcowan, otherwise he is not using sdl
[02:27] <micahcowan> If he's the only user it shouldn't be a big problem. But, helpmeee, if you later have problems with an SDL-using program not letting other things use sound, you might consider removing it.
[02:27] <helpmeee> micahcowan: okay I guess lol.. so go ahead with what was said before?
[02:27] <micahcowan> sounds good.
[02:28] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, if you have any other questions go ahead and try pinging me but I might be away for quite some time tonight
[02:28] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat: thats okay :) thank you for the help hehe.. think this was the biggest issue
[02:28] <helpmeee> micahcowan: thanks for the help man <3
[02:28] <micahcowan> But looks like the user equivalent can be either .xsession or .Xsession, in the homedir (I'm on a debian system atm tho)
[02:29] <micahcowan> helpmeee: very welcome!
[02:29] <helpmeee> so it should be like this . export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=dsp   ? rite below the first one
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> you can also use .xinitrc
[02:29] <micahcowan> helpmeee, the one that starts with a #?
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> If you just want to startx - using xinit
[02:30] <helpmeee> micahcowan: there is one up top with that and one below after a few lines that starts with a period
[02:30] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: it's a full-on kdm session, I think.
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> Sometimes I just use xinit
[02:30] <micahcowan> helpmeee: honestly, it shouldn't matter where it goes, so long as it's in there.
[02:30] <micahcowan> It should look the same as the line you typed into your bash shell, when that worked.
[02:31] <helpmeee> alright
[02:31] <helpmeee> I just look at the things beginning with a period or w/e and assume I need to add that :)
[02:31] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: I haven't had occaision to use a session script in ubuntu/kubuntu, but on debian it doesn't seem to acknowledge/search for .xinitrc, only .xsession
[02:32] <micahcowan> helpmeee: the command shouldn't start with a period...
[02:32] <helpmeee> micahcowan: so this cmd will start up when I launch a file to run quake?
[02:32] <helpmeee> micahcowan: I know now.. just saying <3
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: even if you startx using just xinit (not startx)
[02:33] <TFrog> possibly even
[02:33] <micahcowan> helpmeee: this cmd will start up when you start a desktop session, and will apply to every program you launch (but only SDL ones will understand it)
[02:33] <micahcowan> helpmeee: you'll need to log out and log in again for it to take effect, I think.
[02:34] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: don't think I've used startx on this machine. I suppose xinit automagically looks for .xinitrc, but doesn't when it's launched by *dm peculiarities...
[02:34] <helpmeee> micahcowan: how do I save the file when it's in there?
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> xinit does look for .xinitrc (when nothing else is running)
[02:35] <micahcowan> um.... I dunno.... I don't use nano :-(  ...lemme check.
[02:35] <micahcowan> helpmeee: Control-O
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> I think people should check out zsh it has some good features compared to bash
[02:35] <micahcowan> followed by Control-X to quit.
[02:36] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: I really can't imagine adding anything to add to bash, possibly excepting coprocesses.
[02:36] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: It looks inside Makefiles which is really cool
[02:36] <helpmeee> micahcowan: thanks for the hlep again <3 have a good one :)
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: Shows the possible targets
[02:37] <micahcowan> helpmeee: my pleasure, take care.
[02:37] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: so does bash. it's just bash-completion extensions aren't enabled by default on most distros.
[02:37] <jariep1_> what's the command to launch konqueror as root from a shell
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: So how can I enable those ?
[02:38] <micahcowan> Well, on ubuntu, I think it was already in my default .bashrc, just had to be uncommented.
[02:38] <helpmeee> micahcowan: I dont know what happened but now when I try to play quake3 the game slows and even the mouse moves slow in there.. maybe I need just a simple restart?
[02:39] <micahcowan> I think it refers to /etc/bash_completion...
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: so if i type make then press tab it will give me install uninstall clean (cycle through all the make possibilities ?)
[02:39] <micahcowan> helpmeee: Wow.... I don't know. Take the line right back out again and see if it still has the same problem?
[02:39] <helpmeee> alright
[02:39] <micahcowan> (after log out, log in)
[02:41] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: Well, bash usually tries to avoid cycles when there's multiple completeions: it presents a list instead, typically (which I prefer).
[02:41] <helpmeee> micahcowan: it's not that cmd.. maybe a simple restart would fix it?
[02:41] <micahcowan> helpmeee: I dunno: I don't understand why it would start doing that /suddenly/...
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: For completions inside Makefiles ?
[02:41] <fatejudger> !xincludes
[02:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about xincludes - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:42] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: I know how bash works normally (only switched to the zsh for that one feature) but don't know how to enable it on bash
[02:42] <helpmeee> micahcowan: maybe I should restart and see if it fixes it and if not come back on here perhaps?
[02:42] <micahcowan> helpmeee: you could try it. Might as well put the line back in, then (I'd have been surprised if that worked)
[02:42] <fatejudger> !kdeincludes
[02:42] <ubotu> To install the kde includes, install the kde-devel package.
[02:42] <helpmeee> micahcowan: lol
[02:43] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: completions mostly work the same, whether in Makefiles or pathnames.  On the systems I've seen, my .bashrc had a reference to /etc/bash_completion that I had to comment out. Do you have that in yours?
[02:43] <micahcowan> s/comment/uncomment/
[02:44] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: My .bashrc is empty at the moment (what is the line I need in it)
[02:44] <h3sp4wn> source /etc/bash_completion ?
[02:44] <h3sp4wn> That is enabled by default with the zsh
[02:44] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: does /etc/bash_completion exist on your system?
[02:44] <h3sp4wn> Yes
[02:45] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: the thing about the bash ones are, they're programmable. You can add your own. (I'm guessing zsh works that way, too)
[02:45] <h3sp4wn> But its not referenced in .bashrc (I think I may have deleted it at some point) how can I get the default one
[02:45] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: but does it exist on your filesystem?
[02:45] <h3sp4wn> Is there a way to generate a new default .bashrc ?
[02:46] <angasule> !java
[02:46] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:46] <h3sp4wn>  /etc/bash_completion is there yes definately
[02:46] <h3sp4wn> .bashrc is empty
[02:46] <micahcowan> you can copy it from /etc/skel/.bashrc. But the only line you need is, yes, to source /etc/bash_completion.
[02:46] <micahcowan> my .bashrc has an [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]  test, but that s/b optional...
[02:48] <Ertain> Since I'm using Kopete version 0.11.1, I would like to upgrade to 0.12.1.  Is there a Kubuntu pack for this?
[02:49] <duro> cp /etc/skel/.bashrc $HOME
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: I should have known to copy that (I am very tired)
[02:50] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: So would you enable that completion in /etc/bash.bashrc
[02:50] <BKaj> Has anyone tried the kororaa xgl-live-cd ?
[02:51] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: I guess if I'd been thinking, I'd have done it there instead of my own home one... but since I'm the only user... <shrug>
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: I have done it there now and it seems to be working fine (I appologise for my stupidity I need to go to bed)
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> but it is working properly (but differently to zsh) now
[02:52] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: how does zsh do it, cycle?
[02:53] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: what's really fun, is argument-completion of hostnames in ssh, or even remote files for scp (if you have passwordless access) >:] 
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> mincahowcan: It moves the screen up shows all the options underneath and then cycles
[02:54] <BlackHand> hi, somebody with baghira theme here ?
[02:55] <abattoir> BlackHand: me
[02:55] <jim__> hello I am new to ubuntu and would like to know how to enable kde
[02:55] <BlackHand> abattoir: are u using gtk-qt-engine ?
[02:55] <abattoir> jim__: if you are running ubuntu, install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package using your pakage manager
[02:55] <abattoir> !kubuntu
[02:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:56] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: it doesn't seem enabled by default...
[02:56] <abattoir> BlackHand: getting weird errors w/ firefox?
[02:56] <abattoir> BlackHand: the progressbars/scrollbars are mushed?
[02:56] <abattoir> BlackHand: just a guess :P
[02:56] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: I see. I gotta go through the configuration menu first. Cool.
[02:56] <BlackHand> abattoir: and file dialogs... and gimp is unusable, nvidia-settings too (gtk apps)
[02:57] <BlackHand> abattoir: is the theme engine then the problem ?
[02:57] <abattoir> BlackHand: i guess this is a known problem, and afaik, it was fixed in a later version...
[02:57] <abattoir> BlackHand: so i went and got that package from debian and am using it
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: I have been using either bash or tcsh all the time up until a week or so ago (appart from once trying perl-sh but it was too buggy)
[02:58] <BlackHand> abattoir: debian sid ?
[02:58] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: yeah, you know what? I think the cycling in zsh is just a tad cooler.
[02:58] <abattoir> BlackHand: i know it is not recommended, but it works for me
[02:58] <abattoir> BlackHand: the latest 'testing' debs, whatever debian calls it :P
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: Than bash ?
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: I only use it as an interactive shell
[02:58] <BlackHand> abattoir: stable = sarge, testing = etch, unstable = sid...
[02:59] <abattoir> BlackHand: i'll try to remember that one :P
[02:59] <BlackHand> heh
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> unstable is closer to dapper than etch
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> (in some ways)
[03:00] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: than bash's completion-listing, yeah. I'd rather have a list than cycling, if it's an exclusive choice, but having the list and /then/ starting to cycle... that's nifty.
[03:00] <BlackHand> uhm
[03:00] <BlackHand> edgy have the cvs version
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: Thats what I meant
[03:01] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: Maybe I didn't get my point across clearly (Its 3am here and I am very tired)
[03:01] <BlackHand> the version in edgy is the same in debian sid
[03:01] <abattoir> BlackHand: yes, then take that, they just synced w/ debian...
[03:01] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: looks like it has the nifty ssh/scp completion stuff, too. Cool!
[03:01] <abattoir> i'm not sure which branch though
[03:02] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: anything else you like from zsh over bash?
[03:02] <BlackHand> uhm... but edgy try to update libc6 when i update baguira
[03:02] <BlackHand> s/baguira/baghira
[03:02] <abattoir> BlackHand: then i suggest getting the version from debian...
[03:02] <BlackHand> well in some time this machin will become and edgy machine
[03:02] <abattoir> BlackHand: edgy is not very stable :P
[03:02] <BlackHand> s/machin/machine
[03:02] <BlackHand> then time to backaport
[03:03] <BlackHand> backport
[03:03] <abattoir> BlackHand: found it out the hard way :(
[03:03] <BlackHand> ouch
[03:03] <BlackHand> i try to backport first
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: I would always still write scripts in bash
[03:03] <abattoir> BlackHand: ok, sure :)
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: Thats all I have noticed yet (haven't read all the docs yet)
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> edgy is perfect for me atm
[03:04] <h3sp4wn> (but I haven't dist-upgraded for a bit)
[03:04] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: when did you upgrade? after the feature freeze?
[03:04] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: Almost as soon as the repos opened
[03:04] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: someone at -devel just upgraded, faced almost the same problems as i did.
[03:04] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: oh, ok
[03:05] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: I have modest requirements though
[03:05] <c0da> hello
[03:05] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: dont tell me you dont use X :P
[03:05] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: e17 screen, xterm , firefox in /opt
[03:05] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: oh ok, because X wouldnt behave...
[03:06] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: I've just browsed the docs, but I didn't see anything in there that bash doesn't seem to have. It looks like it had prog completion for a lot longer than bash did, though, so that was probably a chief difference for a long time.
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: I do use X and its working at the moment
[03:06] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: when did you last dist-upgrade, if i may ask?
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> Have you just started putting xorg 7.1 in ?
[03:07] <dan_> anyone know why i'm recieving an error message when installing the package tzdata_2006g-2
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: http://zsh.sourceforge.net/FAQ/zshfaq01.html#l3 (those are the advantages apparantly)
[03:08] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: I will do one now ok ?
[03:08] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: be warned... :P
[03:08] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: for me, i just went on despite the error messages
[03:08] <h3sp4wn> Its fun breaking stuff
[03:08] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: then cool :)
[03:08] <h3sp4wn> If I think it is really stupid I wont
[03:09] <h3sp4wn> Have to look what it wants to upgrade first
[03:09] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: a lot of them I don't grok... some of the ones I do are in bash. But not "Spelling correction"(!)...
[03:09] <ironfroggy> can i disable the 'switch user' feature?
[03:10] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: but lately I've been getting used to vi-mode input style in bash. I don't suppose zsh has such a feature...
[03:10] <Healot> ironfroggy: in Windows XP?
[03:10] <ironfroggy> no... in kde, on kubuntu.
[03:11] <LjL> ironfroggy: uhm, even if you disabled it, users could still login from terminal
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> micahocowan: http://zsh.sunsite.dk/Doc/Release/zsh_17.html
[03:12] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: the buffer stack also looks useful...
[03:12] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: Ah! coolness. Thanks for the vi-mode pointer.
[03:13] <h3sp4wn> micahcowan: I just thought looking at the stuff about it I should try it so I did
[03:14] <micahcowan> h3sp4wn: some of this looks /really/ cool, like automatic quote-escaping. I'm gonna have to check this out; thanks for the tip!
[03:14] <intelikey> i'm probably in the wrong channel but;  howto burn files to cd-r from the cli ?     do i need to mkisofs first ?     and what are the common switches to cdrecord ?
[03:15] <intelikey> anyone that does that ?
[03:15] <dan_> can someone help me please?
[03:15] <Hawkwind> intelikey: man cdrecord
[03:15] <Hawkwind> dan_: With ?
[03:15] <abattoir> hello Hawkwind :)
[03:15] <Tm_T> !helpme
[03:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:16] <dan_> installing tzdata_2006g-2
[03:16] <Tm_T> abattoir: yo!
[03:16] <intelikey> thanks Hawkwind i never would have thought of that...
[03:16] <Hawkwind> Hey there abattoir
[03:16] <ironfroggy> LjL: i just dont want to allow multiple X sessions. my hardware is buggy with that.
[03:16] <crimsun> intelikey: I normally add driveropts=burnfree -v -dao
[03:16] <abattoir> Tm_T: hello :)
[03:16] <Hawkwind> They cut a fiber line here today.  Had no net for about 4 hours :(
[03:16] <ironfroggy> LjL: the configuration that allows it on my video chipset is very obscure, and it took me a month to get it right before. but i forgot how.
[03:16] <crimsun> intelikey: but driveropts needs some knowledge of your hardware
[03:17] <LjL> ironfroggy: ok, but still users logging in from a terminal will be able to start an X session...
[03:17] <crimsun> intelikey: (sorry, those are for cdrecord)
[03:17] <intelikey> crimsun k,  and is that with or without first making an iso...   i'm not sure if cdrecord can burn just data ???
[03:17] <ironfroggy> LjL: not if x sessions are limited to a single terminal.
[03:17] <crimsun> intelikey: after having made an iso with mkisofs
[03:18] <dan_> everytime i try to install the package i get this error that says error processing /filename
[03:18] <ironfroggy> LjL: besides, i just dont want the GUI for it there. as long as its not easy to do it, forgetting that we shouldnt, thats fine.
[03:18] <intelikey> k ty crimsun
[03:18] <dan_> trying to overwrite a certain file
[03:18] <dan_> then it says Broken pipe
[03:18] <ironfroggy> LjL: i know all the ways around it, i just want to remove it from the kmenus.
[03:19] <dan_> so....Hawkwind, can you help
[03:19] <Kr4t05> I'm having geometry problems...
[03:20] <Kr4t05> What would be the bottom right corner coordinates?
[03:20] <dan_> yes no maybe
[03:20] <dan_> lol
[03:20] <Kr4t05> On 1280x1024 resolution
[03:20] <dan_> why do people ignore me when i ask this question
[03:20] <Healot> 1279,1023?
[03:21] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: Still working perfectly for me (but then I started with a debootstrap of edgy)
[03:21] <LjL> ironfroggy: i dunno, but a workaround i can think of is this: remove the K menu, and instead right click on the panel, choose "Add application to menubar", and then "Add this menu"
[03:21] <Kr4t05> Healot, hrm, your probably right, but this thing doesn't work. ><
[03:21] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: i guess you were lucky, did it before the sync was complete :)
[03:21] <abattoir> :P
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> I started almost when the repos opened
[03:22] <Healot> i am right, that's right, but i don't know what you're working on
[03:22] <dan_> hello?
[03:22] <Kr4t05> If I mention what it is that's giving me trouble, I'll probably be denied support.
[03:22] <dan_> lol
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: Installing from a knot 1 cd should work ?
[03:22] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: someone just said KDE wasnt being installed properlyy...
[03:23] <abattoir> *properly
[03:23] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: dist-upgrade seems safer to me... known issues ;)
[03:23] <abattoir> w/ known solutions :P
[03:23] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: Hmm (I am using e-17 compiled from cvs at the moment)
[03:23] <dan_> so....
[03:23] <dan_> does anyone want to help me?
[03:24] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: enlightment?
[03:24] <intelikey> Kr4t05 ok now im curious   :)
[03:24] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: DR-17
[03:24] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: Its pre alpha (but rastamans prealpha) has not crashed once for me
[03:24] <dan_> thanx
[03:25] <Kr4t05> intelikey: I bet you are.
[03:25] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: ebuntu? :P
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> I don't know whats going on with it
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> Otherwise I am going to build an unofficial e-17 repo
[03:26] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: :)
[03:26] <intelikey> Kr4t05 i probably can't help anyway.  it's prolly a gui thang'
[03:26] <dan_> so am i just invisible or whats goin on here
[03:26] <Kr4t05> intelikey: not really.
[03:27] <intelikey> no
[03:28] <abattoir> dan_: might help if you pastebin the eror
[03:28] <abattoir> and give us a link
[03:28] <dan_> ok hold on
[03:32] <dan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18477
[03:32] <dan_> ok check it out
[03:32] <Hawkwind> dan_: Sorry.  Had to go grab a bowl of homemade beef stew :)
[03:32] <dan_> mmm sounds good
[03:32] <dan_> well the link is right there tell me what you think
[03:33] <abattoir> dan_: doing a dist-upgrade?
[03:34] <abattoir> !info tzdata
[03:34] <ubotu> Package tzdata does not exist in dapper
[03:34] <dan_> oh i c
[03:35] <dan_> well how am i supposed to insall tor
[03:35] <dan_> *install
[03:35] <crimsun> dan_: use the packages from tor.eff.org
[03:35] <abattoir> dan_: why are you manually installing this deb?
[03:36] <crimsun> the versions in the Ubuntu repos are too old.
[03:36] <dan_> when i go to tor.eff.org it doesnt have a link for a deb file to download
[03:37] <dan_> so i dont know what to do
[03:37] <Hawkwind> dan_: http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorOnDebian
[03:38] <Hawkwind> crimsun: It looks like he added the sources there on that URL and that's how he's trying to get tor
[03:38] <dan_> ok i'll try it
[03:38] <dan_> thank you
[03:39] <intelikey> Kr4t05 ???
[03:39] <Healot> or get validia
[03:39] <Hawkwind> dan_: Did you add those sources on that URL or were you trying to get tor from native Ubuntu repos ?
[03:41] <dan_> i added those sources
[03:42] <thompa> still cant boot xp , any grub help here?
[03:42] <dan_> now i'm trying to add the repository that it gives me in wiki but i must be retarded cause i dont know how
[03:42] <Hawkwind> dan_: Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[03:43] <intelikey> dan_ as root of course
[03:43] <dan_> never mind
[03:43] <dan_> oh ok
[03:43] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Heh thanks. I took it for granted he would know that :P
[03:43] <intelikey> Hawkwind yeah...
[03:44] <eightiesk> !mp34
[03:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about mp34 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:44] <intelikey> !vlc
[03:44] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:44] <thompa> i dont want to have to reinstall xp, i tried restoring mbr no good, i only need the crap for a couple of programs
[03:44] <intelikey> !restricted
[03:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:45] <thompa> it will boot ubuntu and the restore partition
[03:45] <Kr4t05> !audioplayers
[03:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about audioplayers - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:45] <thompa> i will go ask at grub, i know you hate xp
[03:46] <intelikey> thompa knows me pretty well!!!
[03:46] <Hawkwind> Hate XP ?  I thought we hated Windows, period
[03:47] <intelikey> yeah M$ in general.  but xp with a purple pasion
[03:48] <proudfoot> unfortunately, I have to dual boot XP, wine isn't perfect
[03:48] <BLAHBLAH>  THEY'RE ALL GAY MASOCHISTS
[03:48] <intelikey> blah blah blah
[03:48] <Hawkwind> proudfoot: Neither is Windows.  What's the difference
[03:49] <Kr4t05> Do I have to play Devil's Advocate again?
[03:49] <Kr4t05> Windows doesn't suck. But, it's not the perfect OS, either.
[03:49] <HAWKWINDSGEI>  LOL
[03:49] <intelikey> can if you like being on the loosing side Kr4t05
[03:49] <proudfoot> ofc its not perfect, thats why I dual boot
[03:49] <Kr4t05> intelikey: I've been on the
[03:50] <leghumpingjihadk> I'm using Konversation, how do I become "identified" so I can join a different channel
[03:50] <Kr4t05> No OS is completely fool-proof.
[03:50] <proudfoot> type /nickserv help
[03:50] <abattoir> leghumpingjihadk: /msg nickserv identify leghumpingjihadk <passwd>
[03:50] <Kr4t05> If more people used Linux, we'd have just as much spyware on it.
[03:50] <intelikey> if you make it fool proof  they will just make a better fool...
[03:50] <proudfoot> When did I say windows was perfect?
[03:51] <proudfoot> Indeed
[03:51] <HAWKWINDSGEI>  LINUX IS A NERD SYSTEM BY AND FOR NERDS
[03:51] <leghumpingjihadk> it says it's not registered
[03:51] <HAWKWINDSGEI>  WITH BAD SOUND
[03:51] <abattoir> !register > leghumpingjihadk
[03:52] <abattoir> leghumpingjihadk: your nick should easily be available....
[03:52] <intelikey> Kr4t05 that's a good arguement against the 'lets flood the network with linux nub's "  mentality that prevades *ubuntu.....     hmmmm
[03:52] <leghumpingjihadk> !register > leghumpingjihadk
[03:52] <proudfoot> or at least, hopefully so
[03:53] <intelikey> leg you looking for   /msg nickserv help     ?
[03:53] <SeanTater> help ompaul
[03:54] <SeanTater> oh , not help, hey
[03:54] <leghumpingjihadk> thank you
[03:54] <dan_> hey
[03:54] <dan_> huh
[03:54] <dan_> well it worked
[03:54] <dan_> thank you
[03:54] <SeanTater> ompaul: My connection is stable now, would you be so kind as to un-ban me?
[03:54] <kenshin_> where i find guide for installation of nvidia drivers for my kubuntu dapper please?
[03:54] <HAWKWINDSGEI>  GEE YOU DONT SEEM BANNED
[03:55] <SeanTater> HAWKWINDSGEI: I;m banned on #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic, not #kubuntu
[03:55] <intelikey> !nv
[03:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about nv - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:55] <kenshin_> !nv
[03:55] <intelikey> !nvidia
[03:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:55] <intelikey> there ^
[03:55] <SeanTater> !yell > HAWKWINDSGEI
[03:55] <kenshin_> !nvidia
[03:55] <kenshin_> ah
[03:55] <kenshin_> thx man
[03:55] <kenshin_> iam see
[03:56] <HAWKWINDSGEI>  SHUT UP NERD
[03:56] <intelikey> np
[03:56] <intelikey> ty
[03:57] <Sola6662> nvidia cards own all others
[03:57] <kenshin_> hey man, iam see only empy page :\
[03:58] <kenshin_> yes... but i cant install this in my dapper :\
[03:59] <intelikey> kenshin_ it's https:   secure port    what browser are you using ?
[03:59] <kenshin_> firefox
[04:00] <bLaZeD> anyone use gtkpod?
[04:00] <leghumpingjihadk> does anyone know how to get q3 set up properly?
[04:00] <kenshin_> hey, i can see in konqueror
[04:00] <leghumpingjihadk> everytime I start it,, the screen goes black for a few seconds, and it comes back to my desktop and the screen resolution is all jacked up
[04:00] <kenshin_> iam going see it
[04:01] <Sola6662> leghumpingjihadk not sure what to say
[04:02] <leghumpingjihadk> is there a config file somewhere I can open without opening q3 and configuring my monitor settings
[04:02] <Sola6662> leghumpingjihadk i think so but not sure what it is
[04:02] <intelikey> leghumpingjihadk /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:02] <Sola6662> that yeah
[04:03] <bLaZeD> leghumpingjihadk, im guessing u need drivers for you vid card
[04:03] <the_hammer> whats the name of the installer tool in ither ubuntu or kubuntu called..starts with sys or something like that (point/click what ya wanna install)
[04:03] <intelikey> prefered method is    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:03] <Sola6662> well bLaZeD it sounds like it
[04:04] <the_hammer> anyone know what im talkin about?
[04:04] <digitalslacker> the_hammer: are you talking about synaptic?
[04:04] <the_hammer> thats it ya
[04:04] <intelikey> the_hammer synaptic is the gnome default   kpackage & adapt    are both kde common
[04:04] <digitalslacker> nope, never heard of it
[04:05] <the_hammer> im running ultima 8 but i wanna changed the package manager it uses kpackager
[04:05] <the_hammer> just shows it loading and wont stop
[04:07] <joelbitar> Hey, if I apt-get remove a program, it's configuration files are still residing in /etc.. how do I automatically remove them ?
[04:07] <joelbitar> I'm guessing purge is involved.. but that's it
[04:07] <intelikey> the_hammer all three are frontends to dpkg = Debian PacKaGe management system.    as are the cli tools  apt and aptitude.    all of which must be ran as root.   (generally via sudo/kdesu/gksudo)
[04:09] <intelikey> in other words, if you call synaptic use "gksudo synaptic"    and so forth....
[04:10] <dan_> does anyone know how to use tor
[04:10] <dan_> lol
[04:12] <intelikey> dan_ i'm sure someone does.
[04:12] <the_hammer> when the kpackage is open..theres a little menue uptop file packages cache special settings help and when i click on special says APT:Debian and then says with in there update upgrade fixup and apt-file update clicking on any of them says that apt-file needs to be installed
[04:12] <unix_infidel> is archive.ubuntu.com SUPER slow for everyone lately as well?
[04:12] <unix_infidel> it fluxtuates between 100+KB/s and less than 1kb/s
[04:13] <intelikey> so install it.
[04:13] <the_hammer> thats just it i dunno the commands in terminal to install it
[04:13] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install apt-file
[04:14] <digitalslacker> dan_: http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ
[04:14] <the_hammer> sudo: apt-get: command not found
[04:14] <intelikey> i know it's a lot of typing and all but it's not that hard.......
[04:14] <intelikey> aptitude then
[04:14] <intelikey> same syntax
[04:15] <the_hammer> command not found
[04:15] <Tm_T> err
[04:15] <Tm_T> no apt-get?
[04:15] <the_hammer> ya no apt-get
[04:15] <intelikey> the_hammer ok.    sudo echo $PATH
[04:15] <the_hammer> running ultima 8
[04:15] <intelikey> prolly a path issue.
[04:16] <the_hammer> hmm /usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/opt/www/htdig/bin:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/lib/java/jre/bin:/opt/kde/bin:/usr/lib/qt/bin
[04:16] <intelikey> ok it's not a path issue.
[04:16] <eXCeSS> how do i launch adept-updater
[04:17] <Lord_Athur> bye
[04:17] <intelikey> dl the package and use  dpkg -i archive.deb   to install it.
[04:20] <eXCeSS> how do i manually launch https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots/+spec/changuard
[04:20] <eXCeSS> er
[04:20] <eXCeSS> adpet updater
[04:21] <intelikey> hut oh... gota take a little walk up the road.  bbl
[04:21] <bLaZeD> realy wish gtkpod had a irc room :/
[04:21] <kenshin_> !nvidia
[04:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:23] <the_hammer> hmm
[04:25] <Kr4t05> *sigh*
[04:25] <Kr4t05> Blah
[04:35] <the_hammer> wish there was a place to go to get the commands im looking for..for installing synaptic into ultima
[04:41] <slicslak> installing kubuntu over ubuntu is still just: apt-get install kdesktop correct?
[04:43] <Hawkwind> slicslak: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:43] <Hawkwind> slicslak: It will NOT overwrite Gnome, it'll install KDE along with Gnome
[04:44] <slicslak> ah, excellant.  thanks Hawkwind
[04:46] <Kr4t05> proudfoot, why did you version me?
[04:47] <Hawkwind> proudfoot: And why did you version me ?
[05:25] <box1> anyone know exactly what file i need to point john the ripper to so i can see if it can crack my root passwd?
[05:25] <DaSkreec1> box1: That sounds remarkable like Windows
[05:26] <box1>  = /
[05:29] <box1> well the apps been ported to windows but it comes native in linux
[05:30] <box1> or maybe i have it backwards =/
[05:37] <TehKewl1> I have a strange problem... xkeyboard-config conflicts with xlibs, and my Canon i250 driver depends xlibs, but forcing it to install makes it work, but wreckes apt
[05:42] <Ashex> !rescue
[05:42] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[05:42] <Ashex> ...
[05:42] <Ashex> There is no alternate CD!
[05:42] <Daskreech> Ashex: They mean the Desktop CD
[05:42] <Ashex> the live cd?
[05:42] <Daskreech> Yes
[05:43] <Ashex> Well, I'm on it right now
[05:43] <TehKewl1> yea but.. the problem is... I need this package installed, but it has a conficting dependancy that it doesnt really need
[05:43] <Daskreech> Wait
[05:43] <Ashex> and I don't see a rescue mode
[05:43] <Woosta> TehKewl1: I have an i250 too .. if you work it out, let me know  ... never been able to get it to work on linux .. Canon only distribute binaries with old deps
[05:43] <TehKewl1> I have it working
[05:43] <Daskreech> No they mean the alternate CD
[05:43] <TehKewl1> but I have to force install
[05:43] <Ashex> it would help if they included that in the cd's they ship you
[05:43] <Woosta> Only by installing old xlibs right?
[05:43] <TehKewl1> heres the driver
[05:44] <Ashex> So, I've got 2 problems
[05:44] <Ashex> I installed kubuntu64 to my new sata drive
[05:44] <Ashex> but it doesn't boot, no grub error or anything
[05:44] <Ashex> the second one, when i was installing kubuntu64, it reassigned the swap partition on my ide drive to itself, so I get an error 17 in Grub
[05:45] <Ashex> when i try to boot off that install that is
[05:45] <Daskreech> abattoir: poke :)
[05:45] <Ashex> !tell me about grub
[05:48] <Ashex> what's the command to view unmounted partitions?
[05:49] <unix_infidel> Ashex: fdisk -l
[05:49] <unix_infidel> shows you all partitions.
[05:50] <Ashex> and the trigger to set partition type when using mount
[05:50] <unix_infidel> Ashex: also, if you want a gui, qtparted or gparted will show you all partitions and their current mount points iirc.
[05:50] <Ashex> I'm blanking on these little things :/
[05:50] <unix_infidel> -t
[05:50] <unix_infidel> *sigh*
[05:50] <Ashex> I'm sorry!
[05:57] <Ashex> bleh
[05:58] <Ashex> i can't figure this out
[05:58] <Daskreech> What?
[05:58] <Ashex> when i installed kubuntu64, it formatted the swap partition on another drive
[05:59] <Ashex> so now kubuntu32 on the drive doesn't boot
[05:59] <Ashex> grub error 17
[06:00] <Daskreech> Ashex: It's in the FAQ of the GRUB site I think
[06:00] <Ashex> 17 : "Invalid device requested"
[06:00] <Ashex>  This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors.
[06:01] <Ashex> that doesn't really point me anywhere
[06:01] <TehKewl1> what will happen if I remove xkeyboard-config?
[06:02] <Daskreech> ok
[06:03] <TehKewl1> too late :P
[06:04] <Ashex> hmm
[06:04] <Ashex> i'm going to try using my grub disc
[06:04] <Ashex> i'll be back if it doesn't work :/
[06:04] <Daskreech> Ashex: Hold on
[06:04] <Daskreech> Doh!
[06:04] <Generic> eh?
[06:04] <abattoir> ugh, he just left :(
[06:04] <Daskreech> yEAH
[06:04] <Ashex> I'm still here
[06:04] <Ashex> Laptops ftw
[06:04] <Daskreech> Ashex: Sneaky
[06:05] <abattoir> Ashex: ok, i share a swap b/w 32 and 64 bit Kubuntu installs
[06:05] <abattoir> Ashex: shouldnt be a problem...
[06:05] <Ashex> HEh
[06:06] <Ashex> 64 kubuntu was scrapped btw
[06:06] <Ashex> wouldn't boot off the sata drive
[06:06] <abattoir> Ashex: 'scrapped', so you removed it?
[06:08] <Ashex> yep
[06:08] <Ashex> grub wasn't even showing up, no errors or anything
[06:08] <abattoir> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802 might help?
[06:08] <abattoir> oh, i thought you said error 17
[06:09] <Ashex> oh hey
[06:09] <Ashex> I did say error 17
[06:09] <Ashex> that was a different problem
[06:09] <Ashex> Heh, grub cd's are awesome
[06:09] <Ashex> I had it reinstall grub, and...it works
[06:09] <Ashex> i think
[06:10] <Ashex> however, abattoir, I am interested in how you have 32 and 64 sharing a swap partition
[06:10] <Daskreech> I don't think that swap cares about bits
[06:11] <abattoir> swap, is almost like RAM, it is blanked when you boot/ shut down....
[06:11] <ubuntu_> hello
[06:11] <Ashex> yeah
[06:11] <abattoir> so the kernel looks for the partition and mounts it irrespective of what used it before
[06:11] <abattoir> that's how i understand it
[06:11] <ubuntu_> i really need help
[06:11] <Ashex> that's why i was so lost when grub went ballistic
[06:12] <abattoir> ubuntu_: please ask your question :)
[06:12] <ubuntu_> i just made a fresh install of kubuntu
[06:12] <Ashex> ooohhhhh
[06:12] <Ashex> OOHHHHH
[06:12] <Ashex> man i'm an idiot
[06:12] <abattoir> Ashex: what happened?
[06:12] <Ashex> so, the only reason kubuntu64 wasn't booting
[06:12] <Ashex> was because i changed the boot order in the bios to boot off the sata drive
[06:12] <ubuntu_> but the installer failed to make my disk bootable
[06:12] <ubuntu_> how can i make my disk bootable^
[06:12] <Ashex> but i guess when it was installing 64, it detected the grub on the 32 drive
[06:13] <Ashex> so it updated the grub list on there, so if i had left it to boot off that one
[06:13] <Ashex> it'd have been fine
[06:13] <Ashex> >.<
[06:13] <abattoir> ubuntu_: you mean you want the boot flag on for your partition?
[06:13] <Ashex> unless i totally missed something
[06:13] <Ashex> that sound about right?
[06:13] <ubuntu_> probably?
[06:13] <Daskreech> Ashex: Yup
[06:13] <ubuntu_> i have a mac mini
[06:14] <ubuntu_> yaboot was not installed at the end of the process
[06:14] <abattoir> Ashex: hmm, i dont know if it does that, are makes its own list and adds the old OS list to it...., i think the latter
[06:14] <ubuntu_> so i am running from the cd now
[06:14] <Ashex> well poo
[06:14] <Ashex> hmm, may as well give it a shot
[06:14] <Ashex> I've got my laptop if i kill it again :p
[06:14] <abattoir> sure, Daskreech seems to thinks so, so must be right ;)
[06:15] <Ashex> Ha, that's very reassuring
[06:15] <abattoir> ubuntu_: i have no experience w/ that.. so give me a sec
[06:15] <abattoir> Ashex: i was just kidding... :P, not about the Daskreech bit though...
[06:15] <ubuntu_> abattoir: cool to have help
[06:16] <abattoir> Ashex: you can definitely try that
[06:17] <abattoir> ubuntu_: one sec, help is on its way :)
[06:18] <Daskreech> Ashex: As far as I know it does a scan of the drives and updates
[06:18] <Daskreech> It did that in the beta don't know if they changed it
[06:18] <Daskreech> HI imbrandon
[06:18] <imbrandon> ubuntu_ whats going on ?
[06:18] <imbrandon> heya Daskreech
[06:19] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[06:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:19] <abattoir> Daskreech: yes, but does it append to the old grub menu or make its own one and then add the found OSs to the list ?
[06:19] <abattoir> i think it does the latter
[06:19] <Daskreech> abattoir: I'll admit right now it was a single drive setup I was working with.
[06:20] <abattoir> ubuntu_: ????
[06:20] <ubuntu_> yes
[06:20] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: Speak to imbrandon
[06:20] <abattoir>  <imbrandon> ubuntu_ whats going on ?
[06:21] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: i just made an install of kubuntu
[06:21] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: i have a mac mini
[06:21] <imbrandon> ok
[06:21] <imbrandon> desktop cd or alternate install ?
[06:21] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: but my disk is not bootable!
[06:21] <imbrandon> and do you also have osx loaded ?
[06:22] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: mac os x is on another drive
[06:22] <imbrandon> ubuntu_:  what do you get when you boot ?
[06:22] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: i cannot boot with kubuntu, the disk is usable at boot time
[06:23] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: i mean not usable
[06:23] <imbrandon> can you hold the option key after the apple bong and get the drive selector ?
[06:23] <ubuntu_> i don t know?
[06:23] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: i don t know
[06:24] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: can you tell me how to install yaboot from here
[06:24] <abattoir> 'gate.pz.gov.ua'....... interesting :P
[06:24] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: if i reboot, i will no longer be here
[06:24] <imbrandon> ubuntu_: try booting holding the option key, it should give you a drive selector, THEN select the penguin looking thing and login as normal and run this without quotes in terminal " sudo ybin -v "
[06:25] <imbrandon> ubuntu_: someone will still be here to help if it dosent work
[06:25] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: ok
[06:25] <test> hiya chums
[06:25] <nirmal> imbrandon: hi
[06:26] <nirmal> hi all
[06:26] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: so i will live you now
[06:26] <imbrandon> hello
[06:26] <ubuntu_> imbrandon: thank you
[06:26] <imbrandon> np
[06:26] <ubuntu_> thank you all!
[06:26] <nirmal> I have just installed kubuntu yesterday on 40 gb hdd
[06:27] <nirmal> but i would like to install xubuntu also on the same drive can i resize and insall ?
[06:27] <imbrandon> nirmal: cool beans
[06:27] <imbrandon> nirmal: just run " sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop " from the konsol
[06:27] <imbrandon> it will install both and you will have a choice on the "menu button" at login
[06:28] <imbrandon> konsole*
[06:28] <nirmal> before that i need not do any partitioning ?
[06:28] <imbrandon> nope , they will live happy on the same partition
[06:28] <imbrandon> unlike windows and linux ;P
[06:28] <nirmal> and i will get the kubuntu and xubuntu in the grub
[06:29] <nirmal> thank you
[06:29] <imbrandon> just when you gget to the login screen there will be a "menu button" when it asked for your user/pass choose "kde" for kubuntu or "xfce" for xubuntu
[06:29] <imbrandon> after you run that command
[06:29] <imbrandon> no not grub
[06:29] <imbrandon> the login screen
[06:29] <nirmal> i got it
[06:29] <imbrandon> kdm/xdm
[06:30] <imbrandon> you can do the same for ububuntu-desktop and have all 3 actualy ;P
[06:30] <imbrandon> if you want ;P
[06:31] <test> anybody help with running dual accounts in seperate xsessions simultaneously from different machines?
[06:31] <imbrandon> ubuntu-desktop*
[06:31] <imbrandon> test: sorry not I but someone might , iof not try #ubuntu
[06:31] <imbrandon> s/iof/if
[06:31] <imbrandon> ok i'm off gnight all
[06:31] <test> imbrandon: i tried ubuntu already. thanks. night
[06:32] <DaSkreec1> nirmal: You don't need to resize
[06:32] <imbrandon> test: i know there are ppl that know but most that do are asleep atm, might try at a diffrent hour too, anyhhow take it easy, gnight
[06:32] <abattoir> test: you googled?
[06:32] <nirmal> i have got my cds with me will apt-get will look there or else it will go and get directly from internet?
[06:32] <DaSkreec1> imbrandon: later
[06:33] <abattoir> nirmal: you have xubuntu cd?
[06:33] <DaSkreec1> nirmal: I'd get it from the internet
[06:33] <nirmal> yes
[06:33] <imbrandon> nirmal: the internet becosue its not all on te cd
[06:33] <imbrandon> plus the internet is updated
[06:33] <test> abatitoir: i tried to google but i think i must have typed the wrong phrase
[06:33] <abattoir> nirmal: well, it will get it from the internet, but if you are on a slow connection, you can use your cd as a source...
[06:34] <test> abatitoir: ie google didnt tell me much
[06:34] <imbrandon> test look for xdmp or xdmc logins cant rember whitch one atm , sleepy
[06:34] <test> imbrandon: thanks and goodnight
[06:34] <nirmal> then i think the command is different plz tell me the command
[06:35] <imbrandon> nirmal: " sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop "
[06:35] <nirmal> okidoki
[06:35] <abattoir> test: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/kdm/xdmcp-with-kdm.html ?
[06:36] <test> abattoir: thank you very muc
[06:36] <imbrandon> test: yea thats it ^^
[06:36] <test> h
[06:36] <imbrandon> ok really off, gnight
[06:40] <ubuntu_> hello
[06:40] <ubuntu_> i still have problem booting
[06:41] <ubuntu_> my disk is not bootable
[06:41] <ubuntu_> how can i make my disk bootable?
[06:42] <ubuntu_> ?
[06:44] <DaSkreec1> ubuntu_: I'm sorry it's late for most people now
[06:44] <DaSkreec1> You will probably get a lot more help in 12 hours
[06:44] <ubuntu_> ok
[06:44] <ubuntu_> thank you :-)
[06:45] <abattoir> ubuntu_: wait up
[06:45] <abattoir> i'll see if i can google something
[06:45] <ubuntu_> :-)
[06:45] <abattoir> ubuntu_: you used the live cd partitioner right?
[06:46] <ubuntu_> abattoir:yes
[06:47] <abattoir> and it finished the installation w/o any errors?
[06:47] <cesar> hi
[06:47] <ubuntu_> abattoir: with errors
[06:47] <abattoir> ubuntu_: any idea what?
[06:47] <abattoir> ubuntu_: also you are keeping macos X right?
[06:48] <abattoir> you shrunk it properly?
[06:48] <ubuntu_> abattoir: yes, the installer was unable to install yaboot
[06:48] <ubuntu_> abattoir: the mac os is on another disk
[06:48] <abattoir> ubuntu_: can you 'show' me some of that?
[06:48] <abattoir> put it on pastebin?
[06:48] <abattoir> !pastebin
[06:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:53] <ubuntu_> abattoir: the file is not there. i guss it is because of the cd
[06:53] <ironfroggy> sound works, but not from flash plugins in firefox. am i missing a setting?
[06:53] <cesar> hi
[06:53] <ubuntu_> abattoir: may be because i don t see the volume
[06:56] <abattoir> ubuntu_: sorry, i have to go now :(
[06:56] <abattoir> i'm sure the ubuntu wiki would have something
[06:56] <abattoir> or the fora
[06:56] <Ashex> what's his question?
[06:56] <abattoir> please google
[06:56] <ubuntu_> abattoir: ok, thank you :-)
[06:56] <abattoir> bye
[06:56] <abattoir> bbl
[06:56] <Ashex> bye abattoir
[06:59] <caribou7> I'm having a problem with Krusader 1.70.0 "Round Robin" under Kubuntu when trying to run it in root mode.  If I am in normal Krusader and do Alt-K or use the Commands menu to Start Root Mode Krusader, and then enter my password, I get two error messages.  The first is "Could not find mime type application/octet-stream" and when I click OK I get "Malformed URL file:///"
[06:59] <caribou7> Then it crashes
[07:00] <ironfroggy> how do i get firefox to play sound trough artsd?
[07:01] <Ashex> !tell me about krusader
[07:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about krusader - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:01] <Ashex> bah
[07:01] <Ashex> caribou7: what exactly is crusader?
[07:01] <Ashex> !tell ironfroggy about codecs
[07:01] <villain> bzzzzzzzzzz
[07:01] <Ashex> Krusader*
[07:03] <ironfroggy> how is this related to codecs in anyway?
[07:03] <Ashex> system settings>sound
[07:03] <villain> CHALL
[07:03] <Ashex> villain: random word usage?
[07:03] <villain> yeh opps
[07:04] <villain> *
[07:04] <villain> i c
[07:05] <villain> bill is known as satern
[07:05] <villain> satan
[07:05] <villain> .............
[07:05] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:05] <villain> grmn
[07:06] <villain> ~>
[07:06] <villain>   ./clear
[07:07] <ironfroggy> so i was just trying to resize my ntfs partition, to give myself more room to run kubuntu, when i get this 'trying to resize ntfs partition "operation not supported" ' error... what does that tell you?
[07:07] <villain> what app you using
[07:08] <geneo93> what happened to java that was in repository
[07:08] <villain> gparted
[07:08] <ironfroggy> qtparted
[07:08] <villain> >>
[07:08] <geneo93> !java
[07:08] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:08] <Ashex> java is evil!
[07:08] <Ashex> Actually it's not, don't listen to me
[07:08] <ironfroggy> so is my ntfs partition borked?
[07:08] <villain> tomcat is no fun
[07:09] <villain> websphere is no fun
[07:09] <villain> java is a headache
[07:09] <Ashex> ironfroggy: you need to give the computer a little love
[07:09] <Ashex> show it you care
[07:09] <Ashex> then it might let you resize
[07:09] <villain> php is therapeutic
[07:09] <caribou7> Sorry - Krusader is a twin pane file manager
[07:10] <ironfroggy> maybe i should just kill it
[07:10] <caribou7> Like midnight/norton/total commander
[07:10] <Ashex> Ha, that wouldn't solve things :p
[07:10] <Ashex> ironfroggy: check to make sure you're not shrinking the ntfs drive beyond how much data is in there
[07:10] <villain> anyone use JBOSS apps
[07:10] <Ashex> so if it's using 12/16gigs, check that you're not shrinking it below 12gigs
[07:10] <martinnet> hello
[07:11] <caribou7> See www.krusader.org
[07:11] <ironfroggy> Ashex: qtparted doesnt let me, and i know im not anyway. ive got about 16 gigs in there and im shrinking it to 20.
[07:11] <Ashex> twin pane? use konquruer for that
[07:11] <Ashex> ironfroggy: that's rather odd
[07:11] <Ashex> wait
[07:11] <Ashex> is it mounted?
[07:11] <ironfroggy> no
[07:11] <ironfroggy> im on a livecd
[07:12] <Ashex> the kubuntu live cd I take it
[07:12] <ironfroggy> i tried to resize it earlier, and it failed, and i ran chkdsk in windows, and tried again and got this.
[07:12] <ironfroggy> yes
[07:12] <Ashex> hmm
[07:12] <Ashex> I'm going to reboot real quick, refer to generic (my laptop)
[07:13] <caribou7> Konqueror isn't the same
[07:13] <Generic> do mount in konsole real quick
[07:13] <Generic> just to be safe
[07:13] <ironfroggy> oddly enough, immediately after the failed resize, i booted into windows and was using it. i had skipped the disc check.
[07:14] <Generic> it failed when you clicked commit?
[07:14] <ironfroggy> then i rebooted and run it, and after the disk check, windows wont start cause it lost some file (apparently the disk check removed it for me. how nice).
[07:14] <ironfroggy> yeah it was defragging first, i believe, and then it died.
[07:14] <Generic> heh
[07:14] <Generic> welcome to my world!
[07:14] <Generic> well, for today that is
[07:15] <ironfroggy> hows that?
[07:15] <Generic> i got my new mobo and cpu today
[07:15] <Generic> amd64 3800
[07:15] <Generic> and a sata 300GB to go with it
[07:15] <Generic> I've spent the past 5 hours getting kubuntu64 installed and working
[07:15] <Generic> and you know what the funny thing is?
[07:15] <Generic> there was never anything wrong with it, i was just being an idiot
[07:16] <villain> i c
[07:16] <ironfroggy> im really tempted to just wipe XP completely. the only reason i have to keep it now is Oblivion, which i hear already runs in winex
[07:16] <villain> do it
[07:16] <Generic> when you install kubuntu to another drive and grub is already existing on another one, it updates the existing grub
[07:16] <Generic> i didn't know that, so i switched the boot order to boot off sata, and nothing happened
[07:16] <Generic> so i spent 3 hours trying to figure it out to no success
[07:16] <Generic> so i installed xp to it, and it bluescreened after i installed drivers
[07:17] <ironfroggy> sounds familiar. i spent hours trying to get lilo installed on an extra 200 meg hdd i had lying around, because i could get anything installed to the MBR on the root drive. after hours of work, i had lilo installed on the root drive. probably just had a command wrong to begin with.
[07:17] <Generic> and bluscreens everytime i boot into it, so that os is fucked
[07:17] <villain> lol
[07:18] <villain> XP is like 6 years old
[07:19] <villain> why would you use a 6 year old OS
[07:19] <Generic> because it has teh games
[07:19] <villain> lol yeh i no
[07:19] <villain> but what about cedega
[07:19] <villain> i set it up a few times
[07:20] <villain> it works for BF2 so thats all that matters
[07:20] <Generic> GuildWars runs like crap in cedega
[07:20] <villain> most good games Cedega will suppport
[07:20] <villain> update your cedega
[07:21] <villain> are you using latest cedega
[07:21] <Generic> I think i am
[07:21] <Generic> i don't have an account, so i haven't a clue really
[07:22] <villain> Dual boot is probably better than cedega
[07:22] <villain> cedega needs a lot of work still
[07:22] <Generic> when xp works
[07:22] <villain> yeh i no i like XP for photo apps and games
[07:23] <villain> i just wish it was available to linux
[07:23] <Generic> i use it for video editing
[07:23] <Generic> I have photoshop 7 in linux
[07:23] <villain> i use photoshop CS
[07:23] <Generic> how'd you get cs working in linux?
[07:23] <villain> i think its 9
[07:23] <villain> and photo impact 11
[07:23] <Generic> cs2 is 9
[07:23] <Generic> cs is 8
[07:24] <villain> yeh its cs2
[07:24] <Generic> eh, i don't really see anything new in cs2
[07:24] <Generic> other then the healing brush, which works like crap anyways
[07:24] <Generic> i prefer to do it by hand
[07:24] <villain> i dont have much use for it
[07:24] <villain> i use photoimpact 11 alot
[07:25] <villain> it unlead
[07:25] <Generic> eh, photoimpact is okay
[07:25] <Generic> it's n00b friendl
[07:25] <villain> was tring to install it on kubuntu. Using crossover office
[07:25] <Generic> friendly*
[07:26] <villain> its very friendly
[07:26] <villain> good for logos and banners
[07:26] <geneo93> !java
[07:26] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:26] <villain> crossover only supports old versions
[07:27] <villain> BOT
[07:27] <villain> .......
[07:37] <sysrpl> hello
[07:37] <sysrpl> i keep losing all sound when watching videos online at sites like youtube ... does anyone know what might be causing this?
[07:41] <sysrpl> i keep losing all sound when watching videos online at sites like youtube ... does anyone know what might be causing this?
[07:42] <Generic> sysrpl, it's a common problem
[07:42] <Generic> flash videos are teh suck
[07:42] <Generic> do you mean it's out of sync
[07:42] <Generic> or sound stops working afterwards
[07:42] <sysrpl> i mean at some time it was working, then suddenly it it doesn't any longer
[07:43] <sysrpl> i have fixed the problem once before, but now it has gone mute again
[07:43] <sysrpl> it's very annoying
[07:44] <Generic> odd
[08:10] <bladeofevilsbane> hey can someone please give me some advice on linux?
[08:10] <noiesmo> if lsmod returns that the Module is not used ie Used by 0 does it need to be loaded or can i blacklist it to speed up boot time
[08:11] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: sure, aks
[08:11] <abattoir> *ask
[08:11] <bladeofevilsbane> um i need to know which distribution is right for me
[08:11] <MukiEX> Is there a straightfoward guide to install fglrx drivers and xgl, preferably through an apt repository, preferbly through a script that autoconfigures?
[08:11] <bladeofevilsbane> i tried kubuntu and i didnt like it very much
[08:12] <abattoir> !xgl
[08:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:12] <abattoir> MukiEX: ^^^^ ?
[08:12] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: ok, what didnt you like?
[08:12] <bladeofevilsbane> well i have a 64bit processor and i couldnt get flash to work at all in kubuntu
[08:12] <MukiEX> Yes, I've tried official guides through Google, and I get stuck on that annoying Mesa lib issue, or the EXT_texture_from_pixmap fiasco.
[08:12] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: what distros have you tried..
[08:12] <bladeofevilsbane> i heard it works in suse just fine
[08:12] <bladeofevilsbane> but i heard suse is slow
[08:12] <bladeofevilsbane> just kubuntu
[08:13] <MukiEX> I'm looking for something that doesn't involve doing anything after I've set everything up correctly and hit ./install , or something of the sort.
[08:13] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: you must undersand that flash is not officially supported for 64-bit
[08:13] <abattoir> however you can make it work
[08:13] <bladeofevilsbane> oh
[08:13] <bladeofevilsbane> what other distros are good?
[08:13] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: on sec, i'll give you a link, for eg.
[08:13] <MukiEX> !xgl ati
[08:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about xgl ati - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:13] <Ashex> abattoir, kubuntu64 up and running :D
[08:14] <abattoir> MukiEX: did you ask on the official channel
[08:14] <abattoir> Ashex: cool :)
[08:14] <MukiEX> !fglrx
[08:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:14] <MukiEX> Official? Like Ubuntu?
[08:14] <abattoir> #ubuntu-xgl
[08:14] <MukiEX> Unfortunately, the thing I'm asking for, Ati(not nvidia) + XGL + KDE (not Gnome) usually results in headaches.
[08:14] <MukiEX> I'll try, thanks abattoir =3
[08:15] <bladeofevilsbane> so um
[08:15] <bladeofevilsbane> which other distros are good?
[08:16] <abattoir> well, tbh i have tried only mandriva and kubuntu for 64-bit, and i prefer kubuntu because it has more packages, is better supported, has a nice community and what not...
[08:16] <unix_infidel> most distro's have the same degree of 64-bit support.
[08:17] <bladeofevilsbane> um
[08:17] <bladeofevilsbane> well i have a 64bit processor so i cant run anything else can i? :(
[08:17] <unix_infidel> bladeofevilsbane: not true.
[08:17] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: you can run a normal 32bit OS
[08:17] <unix_infidel> i'm just saying, most distro's have about the same degree of support for 64bit platform.
[08:17] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: i, for example run both 32 and 63 bit on an AMD turion...
[08:17] <bladeofevilsbane> um
[08:18] <abattoir> *64
[08:18] <unix_infidel> which honestly is a waste of money if your buying it just because of the 64bit and not because of the increased throughput on a desktop.
[08:18] <bladeofevilsbane> what about gentoo? someone told me that its the best distro
[08:18] <unix_infidel> bladeofevilsbane: it's best to hit distrowatch.com and research it for yourself.
[08:18] <bladeofevilsbane> but i dont even know what to look for:(
[08:18] <abattoir> well, i havent tried it, and this might best be a conversation for #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <unix_infidel> bladeofevilsbane: that's what that URL is for.
[08:19] <Ashex> hahahahahaha
[08:19] <Ashex> abattoir, you're funny
[08:19] <Ashex> offtopic....
[08:19] <abattoir> Ashex: :)
[08:19] <unix_infidel> otherwise, you'll spend hours and hours using a distro you're not comfortable with.
[08:19] <Ashex> i'm going to try tremulous on my new system
[08:19] <Ashex> see if i kick more ass
[08:20] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: different people prefer different distros, that's why all the variations exist
[08:20] <bladeofevilsbane> this doesnt tell me which ones are fast and easy to use :(
[08:20] <syperchaic> isn't spending hours on a distro what it's all about?
[08:20] <Ashex> yeah
[08:20] <cantinstallkubun> hey
[08:20] <syperchaic> i thought that was how one got the right to proclaim that distro-X is better than distro-Y
[08:20] <Ashex> when i first started on linux, i went through 6 distros in 4 days
[08:20] <Ashex> i barely slept the entire time
[08:20] <syperchaic> *sigh* good times...
[08:20] <abattoir> Ashex: hehe
[08:21] <Ashex> yeah, i learn linux by breaking things
[08:21] <syperchaic> i've always run into some silly little problem that stopped me going ahead any further, got disheartened and went to play games on w32
[08:21] <bladeofevilsbane> im still confused :(
[08:21] <bladeofevilsbane> this site doesnt tell me which ones run fast and which ones are easy to use
[08:21] <Ashex> which ones "runs fast" is purely opinion
[08:21] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: all those are perceptory terms
[08:22] <cantinstallkubun> Anyone help me out? I'm trying to install   kubuntu linux of the live CD, I click installand it does alot of things which it says "ok" to, then it goes black for a few secs now it's stuck on a kubuntu logo with a loading bar that isnt loading.  If I turn of hte machine it says off to everything and ejects them.  Anyone kno wwhat I need to do?
[08:22] <amaraa> i need help
[08:22] <Ashex> IMO the easiest ones would be kubuntu, ubuntu, and SuSE
[08:22] <syperchaic> as for running fast, it's all on what you actually run, not the distro so much
[08:22] <amaraa> anyone help
[08:22] <syperchaic> knoppix!
[08:22] <|lostbyte|> amaraa, ?
[08:22] <|lostbyte|> !ask
[08:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:22] <amaraa> i using Kubuntu
[08:22] <unix_infidel> bladeofevilsbane: think of it like this...most all distro's are fast enough.
[08:22] <bladeofevilsbane> but alot of people told me suse is slow and i didnt like kubuntu :(
[08:22] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: was the installation completed?
[08:22] <unix_infidel> bladeofevilsbane: prepare a list of what you want. and then compare it with reviews on google searches.
[08:22] <cantinstallkubun> Dunno,
[08:23] <unix_infidel> if you dont know what you want, no one can help you decide which distro is "l33test"
[08:23] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: i seriously request you to carry on this conversation in #kubuntu-offtopic :) please
[08:23] <bladeofevilsbane> but i dont know what i want :(
[08:23] <amaraa> my root permission
[08:23] <syperchaic> the way a distro feels can change when you try a different window manager for instance
[08:23] <bladeofevilsbane> um i dont know how to abattoir
[08:23] <syperchaic> try iceWM it's teh leet
[08:23] <Ashex> bladeofevilsbane, /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:23] <Ashex> better yet, hop over to ##linux
[08:23] <cantinstallkubun> nope, still not installed
[08:23] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: so you see this 'logo' when you boot up?
[08:24] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: or are you referring to the installation window?
[08:24] <syperchaic> any ideas on why my mp3s don't work in kubuntu?
[08:24] <abattoir> syperchaic: amarok?
[08:24] <abattoir> !mp3 > syperchaic
[08:24] <Ashex> Hey, that's a new one
[08:24] <amaraa> hey lostbit
[08:24] <Ashex> i always used !tell
[08:24] <amaraa> are u listen me
[08:24] <amaraa> ?
[08:24] <cantinstallkubun> It boots off the CD, I choose Start or install kubuntu, it does some stuff and oks it all, then it goes black for a sec, than comes back to the same screen but not oking anything, just sits there. I let it sit there for about 20 mins
[08:25] <abattoir> Ashex: ubotu is intelligent ;)
[08:25] <ironfroggy> so how insane is it that a move between two directories in the same samba share is doing it _one_ _file_ _at_ _a_ _time_?
[08:25] <amaraa> anybody help
[08:25] <syperchaic> that's so cool
[08:25] <Ashex> amaraa, desribe your problem and we will do out best to assist you
[08:25] <Ashex> s/out/our
[08:25] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: so you dont see the desktop, after you boot from the cd?
[08:25] <amaraa> now i install my pc kubuntu
[08:26] <amaraa> and i cant logon my root
[08:26] <cantinstallkubun> Nope, I just see the bar that it shows when it's loading stuff and oking them at the beggining with the word kubuntu and it freezes there
[08:26] <Hobbsee> !root
[08:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:26] <Ashex> amaraa, use sudo to become root
[08:26] <Ashex> and check that link for more info
[08:26] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: you remember the last 'message'
[08:26] <abattoir> ??
[08:26] <bladeofevilsbane> nobody in the linux place is answering me :(
[08:26] <alexicon> hiyas, anyone here savvy with iwconfig?? im trying to setup wireless on my dell 600m [intel wifi chipset]  and its saying invalid argument to iwconfig eth1 txpower on
[08:26] <|lostbyte|> amaraa, Huh ? whats up with the root ?
[08:26] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: #kubuntu-offtopic?
[08:26] <cantinstallkubun> I'll run it again, one second
[08:26] <amaraa> su
[08:27] <amaraa> sudo
[08:27] <amaraa> ?????
[08:27] <Desh> How do I check what kernels I have on my system?
[08:27] <|lostbyte|> amaraa, You cant start x as root.
[08:27] <abattoir> Desh: 'uname -r'
[08:27] <abattoir> that'd show the current kernel used
[08:27] <Desh> abattoir: I mean all the kernels available
[08:27] <abattoir> you can used adept to find all the kernels installed
[08:27] <Desh> Ah ok, thanks.
[08:27] <bladeofevilsbane> amaraa to run a command as the superuser you type sudo followed by the command
[08:27] <cantinstallkubun> Alright, it;s at the screen where it's loading essential drivers, mounting root file system etc.  Waiting for a few mintues
[08:28] <bladeofevilsbane> like example sudo apt-get install
[08:28] <bladeofevilsbane> and then enter ur password
[08:28] <|lostbyte|> amaraa, You mean a command.. ?
[08:28] <bladeofevilsbane> i think
[08:28] <abattoir> Desh: or 'apt-cache search linux-image'
[08:28] <bladeofevilsbane> am i right? =(
[08:28] <alexicon> iwconfig anyone??
[08:28] <amaraa> please i wait
[08:28] <Desh> Question, I am running the 32bit version of Kubuntu on an AMD64bit machine, first I'd like to know if there is a problem with this, and secondly, which kernel version I should use.
[08:28] <amaraa> i now typing sudo
[08:28] <abattoir> Desh: its perfectly fine
[08:28] <abattoir> Desh: i386 or i686 should be good
[08:29] <Desh> abattoir: any advantages with the 686?
[08:29] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, ?
[08:29] <alexicon> trying to setup a wifi card, and getting an error on iwconfig eth1 txpower on   SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument.
[08:30] <cantinstallkubun> The last thing it "Okd" was something periodic, flashed to fast to see.  Then it flashed a large screen which was all black for a split second which said ubuntu linux 6.06 then ALOT of writing going half way down the screen.  Now it's once again where it was OKing things, but no OKing things, just sitting there
[08:30] <|lostbyte|> alekibango, remove that command from the interfaces file..
[08:30] <|lostbyte|> alekibango, if you have one.
[08:30] <alexicon> interfaces?? /etc/?
[08:30] <alexicon> iftab?
[08:31] <abattoir> Desh: sorry, was away, different CPU optimizations...
[08:31] <alexicon> gotcha lostbyte
[08:31] <alexicon> /etc/network/interfaces
[08:31] <abattoir> Desh: 686 should be good for an athlon :)
[08:31] <cantinstallkubun> now I CTRL+ALT+DELTED and it stopped everything
[08:31] <alexicon> still makes no sense tho
[08:32] <alexicon> i want to power on the radio
[08:32] <amaraa> i cant do sudo
[08:32] <alexicon> the device is there
[08:32] <Desh> abattoir: ok thanks, if I delete the old kernels with adept, will it remove all the headers and what not?
[08:32] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, pls paste the command you are using ?
[08:32] <abattoir> Desh: i'm not sure about the headers... just check...
[08:32] <alexicon>  sudo iwconfig eth1 txpower on
[08:32] <Desh> Ok
[08:33] <alexicon> i was using kwifimanager, thats the command that program tries to run to enable the radio apparently
[08:33] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: do you see 'Adding Livecd user' ?
[08:33] <cantinstallkubun> Screw it I'm just installing SuSE linux atleast the installer worked,
[08:33] <cantinstallkubun> And yep, that's one of the first things I see
[08:33] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, what card ?
[08:33] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: whatever suits you
[08:34] <alexicon> intel, not sure how to verify which im using, its a dell laptop inspiron 600m
[08:34] <alexicon> thought it would be something pretty generic
[08:34] <alexicon> iwconfig sees it there
[08:34] <Desh> abattoir: ok, I want to get the new 686 kernel, so I install linux-image-2.6....-686, linux-image-686, linux-headers-686, is that it?
[08:34] <alexicon> i just cant enable it
[08:34] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: you can use the alternate cd if you have an old monitor/card
[08:34] <abattoir> Desh: looks good...
[08:34] <Desh> Oh and restricted modules
[08:35] <cantinstallkubun> My moniter is a LCD Widescreen tv, my card is a ATI Radeon x700
[08:35] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, what do you get for iwlist wlan0 txpower ?
[08:35] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: a laptop?
[08:35] <|lostbyte|> replace wlan0 fro eth1.. :)
[08:35] <cantinstallkubun> Nope, desktop
[08:35] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: seems like it, try booting w/ acpi off
[08:35] <Desh> abattoir: and I shouldn't get the k7 kernel instead of 686?
[08:35] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: ok, anyways try that
[08:35] <alexicon> eth1      unknown transmit-power information.
[08:35] <alexicon> Current Tx-Power:off
[08:35] <abattoir> Desh: hmmm... not sure...
[08:36] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: any chance the cd is bad? scratched?
[08:36] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, i cant see anything wrong..
[08:36] <alexicon> me either :/
[08:37] <alexicon> oh well
[08:37] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, could be a comfliting driver ..
[08:37] <cantinstallkubun> How would one disable acpi
[08:37] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, do you have ndiswrapper installed ?
[08:37] <alexicon> lostbyte, is it bothered that im using eth0 at the same time?
[08:37] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: does the 'safe mode' thing work?
[08:38] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, YEah ! but is it another wireless card ?
[08:38] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: its the second or third in the menu, iirc
[08:38] <alexicon> no its my cabled connection
[08:38] <the_hammer> to make a new user account in terminal its the same way through all systems of linux right like commands ther same?
[08:38] <alexicon> hrm
[08:38] <alexicon> i dont have ndiswrapper
[08:38] <alexicon> lemme get that
[08:38] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, then, its does'nt matter..
[08:38] <alexicon> o
[08:38] <cantinstallkubun> Im about to give it a shot.
[08:38] <alexicon> ok let me get ndiswrapper
[08:38] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, you dont need it..
[08:38] <alexicon> oh ok
[08:39] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, you can an intel card.. what model ?
[08:39] <|lostbyte|> can/have*
[08:39] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: good
[08:39] <alexicon> im not sure which model lostbyte, how can i find out?
[08:39] <alexicon> is there a /proc for it?
[08:40] <cantinstallkubun> if I cant get this working I always have my gentoo/SuSE CDs
[08:40] <alexicon> lspci?
[08:40] <alexicon> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
[08:40] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: like i said before, whatever suits you :)
[08:40] <the_hammer> anyone know how to add users using terminal?
[08:41] <alexicon> the_hammer: man useradd
[08:41] <bladeofevilsbane> =( nobody will help me in the linux room :(
[08:41] <cantinstallkubun> With safe graphics, it launched the desktop though can I installf rom here?
[08:41] <Healot> bladeofevilsbane: becayse you don't ask any question
[08:41] <Healot> !ask
[08:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:41] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: yes, you can
[08:42] <bladeofevilsbane> i already asked and was told to go somewhere else
[08:42] <bladeofevilsbane> so i did an i asked there an nobody would help me :(
[08:42] <alexicon> what is your question bladeofevilsbane!?!
[08:42] <bladeofevilsbane> i need help choosing a good distro
[08:42] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:42] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: third time, i'm telling you
[08:42] <cantinstallkubun> Huzzah! It works! *Throws SuSE Linux CDs at walls* I can sleep again! *2:42 am here*
[08:42] <Healot> hoh, no wonder
[08:42] <abattoir> i'm sure people there will speak with you
[08:42] <abattoir> cantinstallkubun: cool :)
[08:42] <bladeofevilsbane> see nobody wants to help me =(
[08:42] <cantinstallkubun> Thanks for the help ^.^
[08:43] <ChefWill> anyone know how to manually save a sesson w/o logging out?
[08:43] <alexicon> bladeofevilsbane: that was help, please try that offtopic channel if you arent asking a specific kubuntu question
[08:43] <ChefWill> or at least how to manually configure what starts and what doesnt
[08:43] <cantinstallkubun> lol, I think I'm going to need to make this computer ubuntu to :O
[08:43] <alexicon> ChefWill: you still using kde?
[08:43] <Healot> define "good distro" >> bladeofevilsbane
[08:43] <cantinstallkubun> *Kubuntu
[08:43] <abattoir> ChefWill: KDE session manager?
[08:43] <ChefWill> alexicon: yes
[08:43] <alexicon> nod^
[08:43] <|lostbyte|> alekibango, there is a package for kubuntu on your card, but its in source..
[08:43] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, ^^
[08:43] <ChefWill> abattoir: built in?
[08:43] <alexicon> yeah its in kcontrol somewhere
[08:44] <bladeofevilsbane> i dont know healot i dont know anything about linux =(
[08:44] <alexicon> ermm where..
[08:44] <abattoir> ChefWill: Kcontrol -> KDE components->...
[08:44] <bladeofevilsbane> i know that i dont like kubuntu tho =(
[08:44] <alexicon> what dont you like about it bladeofevilsbane
[08:44] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: dude, last time i'm telling you come to #kubuntu-offtopic, we'll discuss there
[08:44] <bladeofevilsbane> i was answering a question abattoir =(
[08:44] <ChefWill> ah thanks
[08:44] <alexicon> lostbyte Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
[08:44] <bladeofevilsbane> dont get mad at me =(
[08:44] <ChefWill> "Restore manually saved session" is what i want i guess
[08:44] <intelikey> kubuntu installed crashes a lot doesn't it...
[08:45] <|lostbyte|> alexicon, apt-get install ipw2100-source
[08:45] <alexicon> cheers lostbyte
[08:45] <abattoir> bladeofevilsbane: i've told you 4 times, its hard to help others when your messages drown it :(
[08:46] <alexicon> **~~bladeofevilsbane~~**  what didnt you like about kubuntu????
[08:46] <abattoir> who else wants to join our distro discussion ? ;)
[08:46] <alexicon> :P
[08:46] <alexicon> i'll battle this out with you abattoir
[08:46] <bladeofevilsbane> if i answer you alexicon abbatoir will just get mad at me again =(
[08:46] <syperchaic> does anyone like debian here?
[08:46] <abattoir> alexicon: hehe #kubuntu-offtopic it is then
[08:46] <intelikey> man the graphical installer is un-usable !
[08:46] <||Trayer||> Has anyone here attempted/Had success and running WoW Under Wine On Kubuntu? I had it on my Gentoo
[08:46] <alexicon> bladeofevilsbane: what was your problem with it bladeofevilsbane so i can suggest a solution or a distro that better does what you need...
[08:46] <alexicon> kk abattoir
[08:47] <duckdown> Hey all, I am trying to search for a string in a directory but need a result that shows the filename.  (cat * |grep MYWORD shows the results I need to pinpoint..)
[08:47] <Healot> intelikey: the bug has been filed, get the latest build of desktop CD...
[08:48] <intelikey> Healot: yeah dl it on dialup...   maybe not.
[08:48] <syperchaic> !ubotu
[08:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:48] <syperchaic> ahh omniscient irc...
[08:49] <intelikey> what i need is the server cd     i don't like desktops anyway.  they are all pointy clicky  yucky
[08:50] <||Trayer||> Ahh, the done to death topic, KDE vs Gnome
[08:51] <||Trayer||> Another issue has come up in my installation, The installer appears to have froze at "Creating ext3 file system for / in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda)...
[08:52] <intelikey> i just migrated three hd's to ext3  so things on this box are still abit messy.  and i figured 'hey iv got the cd why not give it one more try...'
[08:52] <intelikey> ||Trayer||: yeah i was just bitching about the installer too....
[08:53] <||Trayer||> intelikey: Wurd
[08:54] <||Trayer||> )
[08:54] <||Trayer||> I'm not quite sure how ubuntu/kubuntu cores are different, but if I download a ubuntu build of AMSN will it work on kubuntu?
[08:54] <intelikey> i found an easy way to make it leave the other drives alone though.   i sudid rm /dev/hd*    then started the installer.  hehhe now all it can find are the scsi disks
[08:56] <intelikey> well it crashed again with 'failed to create file system'  and i told it to automatically partition sda that time.
[08:56] <bladeofevilsbane> =( nobody will help me
[08:57] <intelikey> bladeofevilsbane: what was your Q ?
[08:57] <||Trayer||> How does one set a static IP in Kubuntu? Through a KDE control panel right?
[08:58] <bladeofevilsbane> i dont know which distro to use and i cant make my music work in kubuntu =(
[08:58] <intelikey> bladeofevilsbane: tried vlc ?
[08:58] <alexicon> intelikey: hes on a livecd...
[08:59] <intelikey> can't install on the live ?
[08:59] <alexicon> i dunno whats on the 64bit livecd
[08:59] <alexicon> but *ubuntu never has mp3 support by default
[09:00] <intelikey> no but vlc does
[09:00] <||Trayer||> How does one set a static IP in Kubuntu?
[09:00] <Healot> via the file /etc/network/interfaces; start with man interfaces ;
[09:01] <Healot> or enter the IP address manually using ifconfig command
[09:01] <||Trayer||> so what would be hte exact command to set it? (IP Wanting to be 192.168.1.50)
[09:02] <ChefWill> anyone here use Baghira ?
[09:02] <intelikey> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.50 up
[09:02] <Healot> for starter "sudo ifconfig <interface> <IP address> netmask <netmask>"
[09:02] <Healot> up :)
[09:02] <||Trayer||> intelikey: Will this be permanent aka not need to be reset every time?
[09:02] <thyko> how do i install gtk-config?
[09:03] <intelikey> ||Trayer||: nope
[09:03] <Healot> to make permanent every boot time add the entry to /etc/network/interfaces;
[09:03] <intelikey> ||Trayer||: set it in the interfaces file like healot said.
[09:03] <||Trayer||> Healot: I'm not the most expierienced with linux, I'm more of a mac person, how does one change this?
[09:03] <Healot> something like "auto inet eth0 static"
[09:03] <intelikey> or add the ifconfig command to an init script....   not the ubuntu way, but it works.
[09:04] <Healot> first open the file /etc/network/interfaces ? ||Trayer||
[09:04] <thyko> any ideas?
[09:04] <||Trayer||> Healot: Doing
[09:04] <Healot> !find gtk-config
[09:04] <ubotu> No packages matching 'gtk-config' could be found
[09:05] <Healot> ok... did you prefix sudo while typing the command, ||Trayer||?
[09:05] <intelikey> thyko apt-cache search gtk | grep conf
[09:05] <Healot> file /etc/network/interfaces needs root access to write...
[09:05] <thyko> i'm trying to install php-gtk
[09:05] <||Trayer||> I'm in the file
[09:05] <||Trayer||> What do I change
[09:06] <Healot> see the part "auto inet ethX"?
[09:06] <intelikey> thyko apt-cache search php-gtk    and install it.
[09:06] <||Trayer||> Actually, know
[09:06] <||Trayer||> *no
[09:07] <||Trayer||> = \
[09:07] <Healot> ||Trayer||: flush the content of the file to pastebin
[09:07] <Healot> !paste
[09:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:08] <||Trayer||> It's on my other computer, Should I copy out the whole file?
[09:09] <intelikey> you mean type it?   the comments you can skip.
[09:09] <Healot> whichever suits you, yeah skip the commented lines
[09:10] <thyko> i cant find php-gtk on apt-get
[09:10] <Healot> !find php-gtk
[09:10] <ubotu> No packages matching 'php-gtk' could be found
[09:10] <Healot> !find phpeditor
[09:10] <ubotu> No packages matching 'phpeditor' could be found
[09:11] <||Trayer||> It's in the pastebin
[09:12] <intelikey> and the url is ???????
[09:12] <||Trayer||> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18500
[09:13] <ChefWill> anyone here use the kwin-baghira theme?
[09:13] <nirmal> did anyone install clearsilver on ubuntu
[09:14] <alexicon> LOL theres a linux driver for the playstation ddr mats X-D
[09:15] <alexicon> heh
[09:17] <intelikey> someone please give me the major and minors for sda1 and sda5 ?
[09:18] <Healot> major and minor?
[09:18] <intelikey> yeah.
[09:18] <syperchaic> umm... A#, Gb, Eb, C
[09:18] <intelikey> ls -l /dev/sda1
[09:19] <syperchaic> does that make sense to you? because it doesn't to me
[09:19] <intelikey> nope.
[09:20] <intelikey> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 2006-07-21 05:31 /dev/sda
[09:20] <intelikey> like that  ^   major 8 minor 0
[09:20] <intelikey>  ^ block device
[09:21] <syperchaic> what do the major and minors do? what are they used for?
[09:21] <intelikey> tell me how to make the block device
[09:21] <intelikey> so i can then access it
[09:22] <||Trayer||> how does one open a .deb file such as the one for amsn?
[09:22] <intelikey> it's basic addressing.
[09:22] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb'
[09:22] <RawSewage> sudo dpkg -i  name.deb
[09:22] <intelikey> ||Trayer||: open ?  or install ?
[09:22] <||Trayer||> Install
[09:23] <intelikey> yeah dpkg -i
[09:23] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: where * is the name of the package
[09:23] <intelikey> abattoir: path and name.
[09:23] <intelikey> so is sda1   8, 1  ?
[09:25] <syperchaic> intelikey:  my sda1 is the same.
[09:25] <intelikey> same as ?
[09:25] <syperchaic> 8, 1
[09:26] <intelikey> k  thank you.
[09:26] <syperchaic> sda is 8, 0
[09:26] <intelikey> yep
[09:26] <intelikey> i thought that was where they went.  but needed some confirmation
[09:26] <syperchaic> ... not that it's mounted or anything
[09:26] <rayner> hi
[09:27] <liviux> Hi all.
[09:27] <syperchaic> HIIIIES HAPPY TIMES
[09:27] <syperchaic> hmm, maybe I should stop watching so much japanese wapamation
[09:28] <syperchaic> BYEEES SAD TIMES
[09:31] <||Trayer||> where/how do I get vlc player?
[09:31] <intelikey> ok it formated ok... now if i can just get the graphic installer to skip the partitioning step.....
[09:32] <alexicon> lostbyte you still around? ive got that module installed, but im not sure whats going on. still not working
[09:32] <alexicon> !paste >> alexicon
[09:33] <alexicon> !paste > alexicon
[09:33] <intelikey> does the redirect really work ?
[09:33] <intelikey> !paste > ubotu
[09:34] <alexicon> yah
[09:34] <alexicon> !paste > intelikey
[09:34] <Lunar_Raven> !paste > Lunar_Raven
[09:34] <alexicon> heh
[09:34] <Lunar_Raven> interesting
[09:34] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[09:34] <alexicon> ^_^
[09:34] <Lunar_Raven> !kbfx > Lunar_Raven
[09:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about kbfx  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:34] <Lunar_Raven> !kde > Lunar_Raven
[09:35] <intelikey> !tell blah about blah      used to work too
[09:35] <Lunar_Raven> cool
[09:35] <intelikey> !tell Lunar_Raven about ubotu
[09:35] <Lunar_Raven> :D
[09:35] <alexicon> haha
[09:37] <intelikey> anyone know the command to make irssi only use one window ?
[09:37] <||Trayer||> anyone know how I can listen to MP3s... I tried using "juk" nothing will play
[09:38] <alexicon> trayer did you get the mpeg libs?
[09:38] <||Trayer||> Nope, where can I get them, add remove programs?
[09:38] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs > ||Trayer||
[09:38] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:38] <alexicon> yeah
[09:38] <delta> hi
[09:39] <alexicon> i usually just search adept for mpeg, look for the lib that has mpeg 3 ...
[09:39] <alexicon> but yeah those libxine codecs are good to have
[09:40] <||Trayer||> xine player/The codecs are appearing in gray, whats with that?
[09:40] <alexicon> you added the repositories??
[09:40] <alexicon> multiverse/universe
[09:40] <||Trayer||> no idea what that means = \
[09:41] <andrew_> How do I allow my Adept to use all repositories?
[09:41] <alexicon> in adept you:
[09:41] <alexicon> lol
[09:41] <alexicon> View > manage repositories
[09:41] <andrew_> I can't find nvidiaglx
[09:41] <||Trayer||> I just have view manage changes
[09:41] <alexicon> right click the grey ones and enable them
[09:42] <alexicon> hmm? in adept trayer?
[09:42] <||Trayer||> yeah, in adept I'm only getting Review Changes
[09:42] <alexicon> for me View has, show package list, manage repositories, show last dwnld, show last dpkg run
[09:42] <rene> good morning. does anyone have experiences with setting up kubuntu together with a windows xp home (oem)? i was told running kubuntu together with a oem version of windows wont work. is this true?
[09:43] <Lynoure> I don't seem to be able to unmount my usb drive, not even as a root. It's claiming to be busy. lsof never finishes, so   lsof | grep sda1   also does not finish. It got mounted automatically for me but when I try to umount it as a user I get claim that it is not in fstab and I cannot umount it as I'm not root. And as a root I cannot umount it either: "umount: /media/sda1: device is busy". And nothing should be accessing it, really.
[09:43] <thyko> Rene: i doubt it, it should work
[09:43] <andrew_> No you can dualboot the easy.
[09:43] <alexicon> trayer, above preview changes button
[09:44] <alexicon> adept   edit    view    settings   help
[09:44] <rene> thyko: problem is after having installed kubuntu, restarting and choosing windows in grub, the vaio recovery tool says my system is broken and wants to set the noteback to the original state
[09:44] <||Trayer||> just a second
[09:45] <Lynoure> What can I do? I feel hesitant to umount -f it or just unplug it.
[09:45] <rene> thyko: even if i tell kubuntu setup not to set up grub in mbr but on the linux partition
[09:45] <alexicon> Lynoure: dmesg saying anything about it
[09:45] <alexicon> whats teh device?
[09:46] <Lynoure> alexicon: loads of things...
[09:46] <alexicon> heh
[09:46] <alexicon> how much data is at stake? :P
[09:46] <Lynoure> alexicon: I'll put them into a paste bin
[09:46] <alexicon> ok
[09:46] <andrew_> Is there any way to get nvidiaglx on adept?
[09:47] <alexicon> andrew i believe you can get the source, then run module-assistant to install it
[09:47] <Lynoure> alexicon: It stores the contents of two computers that no longer have that data... so, yep, quite a lot.
[09:47] <alexicon> :o
[09:47] <Lynoure> !pastebin
[09:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:49] <intelikey> hmmm i think the installer is actually going to install something this time.... after only 3 hours...... imagen that !
[09:49] <Lynoure> alexicon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18501
[09:49] <alexicon> k
[09:49] <Lynoure> alexicon: I even tried remounting it ro, then unmounting, but no, still busy
[09:50] <alexicon> :/
[09:50] <intelikey> Lynoure: what ya trying to umount ?
[09:50] <alexicon> usb hdd
[09:50] <alexicon> whats the fs on it Lynoure
[09:51] <Lynoure> intelikey: /dev/sda1  , which was originally mounted for me automatically by kubuntu
[09:51] <intelikey> any open applications on that drive ?
[09:51] <intelikey> lsof | grep sda
[09:51] <Lynoure> alexicon: ext3
[09:51] <Lynoure> intelikey: like I said, does not finish
[09:52] <alexicon> ps saying anything about it?
[09:52] <intelikey> lsof doesn't finish ?
[09:52] <alexicon> lsof can be a pain like that though
[09:52] <Lynoure> intelikey: yep, does not.
[09:53] <liviux> Hi all. I'm going to change my Fedora (bad) to kubuntu, but I saw that the download file of the 6.06 version is about 690 Mb, while other distro (Knoppix , Fedora) are about 4 Gb. Is Kubuntu poor of contents to the beginning?
[09:53] <alexicon> any zombies hanging on to it?
[09:53] <Lynoure> intelikey: first gives me loads of stuff, the does seemingly nothing.
[09:53] <intelikey> sudo eject /dev/sda1
[09:53] <alexicon> liviux: knoppix is a livedvd now, thats why its so big. the kubuntu is a livecd install, and once you install you can add whatever you need
[09:54] <intelikey> or remove what ever....
[09:54] <Lynoure> intelikey: busy, umount failed and so on
[09:54] <liviux> great thank you so much
[09:54] <alexicon> np liviux enjoy :)
[09:54] <Lynoure> alexicon: I'm not really sure what to look for, nothing mentions it
[09:55] <Lynoure> alexicon: I'm not new to linux but new to kde/kubuntu
[09:55] <intelikey> Lynoure: how bad you want it unpluged ?
[09:55] <alexicon> its crit data intelikey
[09:55] <alexicon> i would venture to say its probably fine
[09:55] <alexicon> ive had to rip things out before
[09:55] <alexicon> but
[09:55] <alexicon> i feel your worry
[09:55] <alexicon> heh
[09:56] <alexicon> can you read the data?
[09:56] <alexicon> even if you cant umount the drive, is it still available?
[09:56] <Lynoure> Yes.
[09:56] <intelikey> alexicon: i didn't ask that, just what measure should we take to get free from it.   cause  kill -9 -1 and umount the thing would almost surely get it.
[09:57] <Lynoure> it's mostly silent, occasionally makes noises.
[09:57] <alexicon> nod intelikey
[09:57] <intelikey> then restarting the system with init 3   should bring the gui back on line
[09:57] <Lynoure> That's better than just shutting down and unpluging?
[09:58] <intelikey> maybe the phrase 'restarting...' is out of place there.
[09:58] <s9141038> 55667788
[09:58] <intelikey> Lynoure: if you would rather do it the slow way,  they are pretty much equal in outcome
[09:59] <Lynoure> I could pastebin my ps results too...
[09:59] <s9141038> bye bye
[09:59] <s9141038> Bye Bye
[09:59] <Lynoure> But I think this has happened once before with this disk... And I'll need to use it in the future. hmmm.
[10:00] <||Trayre||> So, how do I add respotoires to the adept?  Under view I just got review chagnes
[10:00] <alexicon> hrm
[10:00] <alexicon> thats strange trayre
[10:00] <intelikey> Lynoure: if you remounted it ro  the data is static on it.  you could unplug at any time.     only thing about removing an fs that the system thinks is still mounted, it may hang your box.
[10:00] <||Trayre||> I can take a screen shot and stick it in the pastebin = \
[10:01] <alexicon> heh yeah, or just link us up anywhere
[10:01] <alexicon> one of those menu options should have manage repositories though
[10:01] <Lynoure> intelikey: that's not that bad.
[10:02] <||Trayre||> Also, how does one get VLC player? There's nothing to download on their site
[10:02] <Healot> !info vlc
[10:02] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[10:02] <intelikey> yeah if it ro the data is safe.  that's what the root fs is when you kill the system.  it remounts ro and then powers off.
[10:02] <Healot> !universe
[10:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:02] <Lynoure> intelikey: I know.
[10:02] <alexicon> yeah we're trying to get there in adept healot
[10:02] <Lynoure> intelikey: I just wish I knew what's causing  this
[10:02] <||Trayre||> >_>; Useful, if I could change my respoitories
[10:03] <alexicon> i guess you could just manually edit the file trayre
[10:03] <Lynoure> Now the pastebin stopped liking me
[10:03] <||Trayre||> Bahaha, I have bad luck with that.  Where's the file?
[10:03] <intelikey> Lynoure: lets see the output of  "ps -A x "
[10:04] <Lynoure> intelikey: did that already, just having trouble contacting pastebin
[10:04] <alexicon> trayre /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:04] <Lynoure> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18505
[10:04] <intelikey> err scratch that.  this system is not hardly finished installing and it will want to reboot.   i should mind my own business.
[10:04] <||Trayre||> Strange, the option just appeared this time I ran it
[10:05] <alexicon> lol
[10:05] <alexicon> ok so right click the grey lines like these:
[10:05] <alexicon> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[10:05] <alexicon> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[10:05] <alexicon> and do enable
[10:05] <alexicon> then apply
[10:05] <Lynoure> alexicon: do you see anything weird in the process list?
[10:06] <alexicon> trayre if you cant find those lines, just paste them one at a time into that blank line at the bottom
[10:06] <Lynoure> ...other than it getting cropped sideways :)
[10:07] <||Trayre||> They're still appearing grey in the add remove programs, even though I added the respotoires
[10:07] <alexicon> Lynoure: can i be a pain and get you to pastebin this command: ps -A --forest -o pid,pgrp,user,nice,cputime,%cpu,%mem,command
[10:07] <alexicon> do the update thingy too i think
[10:08] <alexicon> fetch update
[10:08] <alexicon> you gotta update the package list after changing the repositories
[10:08] <||Trayre||> So, how do I do that?
[10:08] <alexicon> button at the top
[10:08] <alexicon> fetch updates :)
[10:08] <||Trayre||> Ahh, Genious *It's 4:08 am, And I've been having lots of technical troubles mmmkay? Go easy : P*
[10:09] <alexicon> hehe
[10:09] <Lynoure> alexicon: I'm the one who is a pain here... so sure, wai a min
[10:09] <alexicon> ;0
[10:09] <||Trayre||> Xine is STILL appearing grey, though everything else is appearing = \
[10:09] <alexicon> hrm
[10:09] <Lynoure> alexicon: haa, I think I found one
[10:09] <alexicon> xine-lib?
[10:09] <alexicon> :D
[10:10] <alexicon> yeah alias that ps command, its my best friend
[10:10] <alexicon> <3
[10:10] <||Trayre||> nothing under xine lib = \
[10:10] <alexicon> ok what are you trying to install trayre?
[10:10] <alexicon> you want to get juk working right
[10:10] <alexicon> something like that
[10:10] <alexicon> ohhh yesh
[10:10] <||Trayre||> yeah
[10:10] <alexicon> those libxine-extracodecs
[10:11] <alexicon> hrmmmm
[10:11] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:11] <Lynoure> alexicon: killed a sneaky looking konqueror pointing at it, now get a different error...
[10:11] <alexicon> heh
[10:11] <alexicon> whats it saying now
[10:12] <alexicon> trayer close down adept for a bit and try this: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[10:12] <alexicon> whats your error?
[10:12] <Lynoure> alexicon: "Cannot talk to klauncher"
[10:13] <alexicon> erm
[10:13] <alexicon> whats that error for
[10:13] <alexicon> umount?
[10:13] <alexicon> yeah
[10:13] <alexicon> get rid of X
[10:13] <Lynoure> alexicon: no joy from umount as root either
[10:13] <alexicon> get rid of X first
[10:14] <Lynoure> alexicon, intelikey: brb
[10:14] <alexicon> yeah loo break lol
[10:15] <Lynoure> thank god/something for screen on a remote server
[10:15] <intelikey> drop to a console and do a   sudo killall kdm && sudo eject /dev/sda1 && sudo kdm   unplug while it's ejected....
[10:16] <intelikey> mmmm eject might error out even though it umounts.  cause it can't open the tray... idk.
[10:17] <intelikey> but eject seems to be a more powerful umount.
[10:17] <Lynoure> intelikey: was no need to, normal sudo umount was a charm after I left the x session
[10:18] <intelikey> k
[10:18] <alexicon> kk
[10:18] <intelikey> so i win the bet....  shame no one took me up on it.
[10:18] <alexicon> lol Lynoure
[10:18] <Lynoure> intelikey, alexicon: thanks for both of you. I hope this will not happen again or that next time I'll figure out what's the culprit
[10:19] <alexicon> X usually is ;D
[10:19] <alexicon> glad your data is safe :)
[10:19] <alexicon> poor kid didnt get his libxines :P
[10:19] <alexicon> heh
[10:19] <intelikey> oh krap!  i have to kill this dialup connection.  the installer wants to dl 39 hours worth of updates
[10:19] <alexicon> lol
[10:19] <Lynoure> alexicon: GUI - can't live with it, can't live without it. I guess removing automounting usb things might help.
[10:20] <GameZMember327> '
[10:20] <alexicon> im not used to the whole *ubuntu way Lynoure still confuses me too
[10:20] <alexicon> everything seemed so much more straightforward and killable in gentoo lol
[10:21] <Lynoure> alexicon: To exeggarate just a bit, I find myself missing my debian unstable so much I could cry, occasionally =)
[10:21] <alexicon> haha
[10:21] <alexicon> yeah
[10:21] <alexicon> well its either this or windows for me this summer
[10:21] <alexicon> so...
[10:21] <alexicon> lol
[10:21] <Lynoure> alexicon: At least with sid the answer to "why does it do this weird thing" was usually "ecause you made it to, silly"
[10:21] <alexicon> i was happy with knoppix lol
[10:22] <Lynoure> s/ecause/because
[10:22] <alexicon> :)
[10:22] <alexicon> overall ive been really impressed with kubuntu
[10:22] <alexicon> its got a lot more automation than my gentoo does
[10:22] <alexicon> with regards to all this plug and play stuff
[10:22] <alexicon> im so used to having to dmesg and manually handle all the devices anyway :P
[10:23] <alexicon> everyday im like wow! my mp3 player is in and even amarok wants to talk to it lol
[10:24] <Lynoure> alexicon: heh. :) I'll gotta dash now. Some silly reporter wanting to visit here in 2,5 hours and I want to pretend I'm deeply involved in my other hobby at that time...
[10:24] <alexicon> haha
[10:24] <alexicon> gl with that! tc!
[10:28] <intelike1> how will i get this thing to boot after installing on the boot drive (sda)   and it will install grub on hda  ????   i cant use grub, it's too weak.   so i'll have to install lilo now. i guess !
[10:35] <Ashex> anyone have synergy running in 64-bit?
[10:37] <evert> hello all , i'm having a little problem. Who can help me with it ?
[10:37] <abattoir> evert: what is your problem?
[10:37] <evert> I really need some space from my 'linux' hard disk , for other usage , but it has to be in NTFS
[10:38] <evert> what's the easyest way to make the ext3 partition smaller and make a new ntfs partition ?
[10:38] <Ashex> qparted
[10:38] <Ashex> but don't change the start points of the ext3 and swap partition
[10:39] <Ashex> if you do, all hell breaks loose
[10:39] <evert> but when i try to use qparted , i can't do a thing becuase the ext3 partition is currently in use
[10:39] <Ashex> boot off the live cd
[10:39] <abattoir> evert: but you must also realise shrinking an ext3 partition is not a reliable proces.. it would be wise to backup important data
[10:40] <abattoir> *process
[10:40] <evert> ok
[10:40] <evert> is there a high risk of failing ?
[10:40] <abattoir> if qtparted doesnt work, you can try resize2fs
[10:40] <evert> because there is quite a lot of important data on it
[10:41] <abattoir> which is what (i think) qtparted uses, anyway...
[10:41] <evert> ok
[10:41] <evert> i'll try to boot from the installer cd and resize it then
[10:42] <abattoir> evert: man resize2fs might shed some light
[10:42] <evert> hopefully i don't loose my grub , then i'm f*cked
[10:42] <abattoir> >>
[10:42] <abattoir> If  you wish to shrink an ext2 partition, first use resize2fs to shrink the size of filesystem.  Then
[10:42] <abattoir>        you may use fdisk(8) to shrink the size of the partition.  When shrinking the size of the  partition,
[10:42] <abattoir>        make sure you do not make it smaller than the new size of the ext2 filesystem!
[10:42] <abattoir> sorry for the flood
[10:43] <abattoir> but that's what man resize2fs says about shrinking
[10:43] <evert> ok
[10:43] <evert> i'm going to try it then :)
[10:43] <abattoir> evert: i'd again advise you to backup important stuff
[10:43] <Ashex> :O
[10:43] <abattoir> better safe than sorry :)
[10:44] <intelikey> mke2fs /dev/hda      :)
[10:45] <evert> going to backup it first :)
[10:45] <ajay> !flah
[10:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about flah - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:45] <ajay> !flash
[10:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:46] <intelikey> oh a flasher huh
[10:47] <fabid> hello
[10:47] <intelikey> where does buntu store it's repos databases  ?
[10:48] <alexicon> intelikey: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:48] <abattoir> packages.ubuntu.com?
[10:48] <alexicon> oh
[10:48] <alexicon> sorry
[10:48] <alexicon> lol
[10:48] <intelikey> when you do  apt-get update   where does it write ?
[10:49] <intelikey> i know that's vague questioning     sorry ?
[10:49] <fabid_>  var/cache/apt/archives
[10:50] <kraut> moin
[10:50] <intelikey> is it /var/cache/apt/something ?
[10:51] <intelikey> no not archives.
[10:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[10:51] <intelikey> maybe pre-archives.
[10:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey intelikey
[10:51] <intelikey> hey MilhousePunkRock
[10:51] <fabid_> yes intelijey....it's /var/cache/apt/archives directory where it put all .deb files after executing apt-get update command
[10:51] <MilhousePunkRock> It only took another 3 hours to get WPA working yesterday...
[10:51] <abattoir> pkgcache.bin ?
[10:52] <intelikey> no it's not fadid
[10:52] <MilhousePunkRock> The & was a no-go in the PSK
[10:52] <intelikey> fabid that's where the packages are dl'd too  that's not where the databases are dl'd too
[10:53] <MilhousePunkRock> But now I am not automatically connected to the wireless net when I boot, I have to do "sudo ifdown ath0 && sudo ifup ath0" to get connected
[10:54] <intelikey> abattoir: maybe.   if so it's a db full of db's
[10:54] <ajay> i cannot download edgy cd
[10:54] <ajay> download speed too low
[10:55] <fabid_> hmmm so where does it stores the database after apt-get update? in /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin?
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> edgy is not yet a stable release, is it?
[10:56] <abattoir> nope
[10:56] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock: anything you can do on the command line you can do in a script and some things you cant do on the cli...
[10:56] <intelikey> so add the commands to an init script
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> well, with WEP i was connected on start-up
[10:57] <intelikey> /etc/rc.local  would be a good place.
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> auto ath0 (or something alike) is in the etc/network/interfaces already
[10:58] <intelikey> just add the  ifdown and ifup commands you said you use,  to rc.local
[10:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Do they require sudo anyway?
[10:59] <intelikey> not in init script
[10:59] <intelikey> s
[10:59] <intelikey> init is higher than root
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> is rc.local already there?
[11:00] <intelikey> init is kernel level authority.     yes it's there  /etc/rc.local
[11:01] <ricardo> hi everybody....
[11:01] <MilhousePunkRock> It was empty so far, I added "ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0"
[11:02] <intelikey> yup
[11:02] <intelikey> you may want to preceed that with a path string.
[11:02] <intelikey> milhouse.....
[11:03] <ricardo> does anynobdy know how to load applications that requiere root priviliedges automatically at startup, without asking root permission(im thinking of firestarter)
[11:05] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock you may need to preceed that with a path string  i.e. PATH='/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin'
[11:05] <intelikey> ricardo: put the commands in /etc/rc.local
[11:06] <ricardo> intelikey: what do I have to add?
[11:07] <ajay> how can i install kaffeine plugin ffor firefox?
[11:07] <intelikey> what ever you want to run
[11:07] <intelikey> preceed with a path string or use absolute paths
[11:07] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock you may need to preceed that with a path string  i.e. PATH='/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin'
[11:07] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock: you missed that   ^
[11:08] <intelikey> so did you get lucky ?
[11:08] <dillinger> ajay: install it with adept
[11:08] <MilhousePunkRock> well, it is working already
[11:08] <ajay> dillinger: install what
[11:08] <ajay> which pkg
[11:08] <MilhousePunkRock> probably not the best method since it slows down the boot process a little
[11:08] <ricardo> intelikey: so..I just have to add a line that says "firestater"...and thats it?
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> but it's sufficient so far
[11:09] <dillinger> ajay: the package's name is kaffeine-mozilla
[11:09] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock: i didn't know if the commands would be found or not...   better to always use absolute paths in init scripts
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> I wonder why it's still loading the wifi-radar demon although I uninstalled it
[11:09] <intelikey> ricardo: if you start it with   sudo firestarter      then in the init script   put  firestarter         yes.
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> What's the equivalent to Windows' "sytem.ini" on Linux?
[11:11] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock: check the /etc/rcS.d/   for a symlink to that.    anything you don't want to start  can be removed from /etc/rcS.d/    or /etc/rc2.d/      the  'buntu way is with update-rc.d    but i do it by hand.
[11:12] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock: there isn't really an EQ on that.
[11:13] <MilhousePunkRock> so if i run update-rc.d it prompts me what to start and what not?
[11:13] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock: the links in /etc/rc[S,2] .d   are ran every boot.    that's init's play ground.
[11:14] <intelikey> if you just run update-rc.d  it offers help.
[11:15] <intelikey> also the links in /etc/rc[1,6] .d/ are ran every shutdown/reboot respectively
[11:16] <intelikey> errr [0,6] 
[11:17] <MilhousePunkRock> That's too cryptic for me....
[11:18] <intelikey> ok.
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Ok, I located the /rc* folders
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> For example there is a S20wifi-radar script in it
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> To get rid of it at boot, I just delete it?
[11:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello h3sp4wn!
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Hi
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Wireless working ok
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Kind of... I even changed the key to a "real" one
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> it wont connect me on boot unless I run ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0 though
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> Try adding pre-up sleep 5 (to the bottm
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> Try adding pre-up sleep 5 (to the bottom of the section in /etc/network/interfaces)
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> 'pre-up sleep 5'
[11:28] <h3sp4wn> (It makes it wait 5 seconds for the wpa authentication to work before lauching dhcp)
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Ok, thx, h3sp4wn...
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> If it works with 5, can I try to shorten that time subsequently?
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Yes - I wouldn't make it too short (to make it intermittant)
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Trying it with 5 now... BRB, reboot
[11:32] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: It is a known bug with dhclient3
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, I read that... I am considering turning off DHCP anyway
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> My router is assigning different IPs than it used to do, so my port forwarding settings don't work...
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> The User Guide mentions bindind IPs and MACs, but that function is not there in the configuration panel
[11:35] <Ashex> anyone happen to understand this error:
[11:35] <Ashex> libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:35] <Ashex> ?
[11:35] <abattoir> Ashex: i think it depends *only* on the packge
[11:36] <abattoir> = rather thatn >=
[11:36] <abattoir> *than
[11:36] <Ashex> that makes little sense
[11:36] <Ashex> the only package in the repository is libglib2.0-0
[11:37] <Ashex> which is installed
[11:37] <abattoir> dapper?
[11:37] <Ashex> i want to install the dev for it so i can compile crap
[11:37] <Ashex> yep
[11:37] <Ashex> 64-bit to be exact
[11:37] <abattoir> !info libglib2
[11:37] <ubotu> Package libglib2 does not exist in dapper
[11:37] <Ashex> O.o
[11:37] <abattoir> !info libglib2.0
[11:37] <ubotu> Package libglib2.0 does not exist in dapper
[11:37] <abattoir> !info libglib2.0-0
[11:37] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 468 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[11:37] <Ashex> okay...
[11:38] <abattoir> !info libglib2.0-dev
[11:38] <ubotu> libglib2.0-dev: Development files for the GLib library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 485 kB, installed size 1948 kB
[11:40] <Ashex> ah ha!
[11:41] <Ashex> when in doubt
[11:41] <Ashex> use adept
[11:41] <abattoir> Ashex: doesnt look right..
[11:41] <abattoir> Ashex: what does adept say?
[11:41] <abattoir> oh, there is a2.10....
[11:42] <abattoir> 2 10 2 1 that is
[11:42] <Ashex> yeah, it's a little weird
[11:42] <Ashex> bleh, now to grab another package
[11:42] <Ashex> one of the perks of 64-bit, lots of compiling
[11:44] <abattoir> weird... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=dapper&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=libglib2.0-0&searchon=names
[11:44] <Ashex> that is weird
[11:45] <abattoir> where does ubotu get this from?
[11:45] <abattoir> !info libglib2.0-0
[11:45] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 468 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[11:45] <ironfroggy> in the alternative installer, isnt there supposed to be an option to use reiserfs instead of ext3?
[11:45] <abattoir> ironfroggy: there is
[11:46] <Ashex> !ubotu
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[11:46] <ironfroggy> its nicely hidden
[11:46] <MilhousePunkRock> That worked fine, h3sp4wn, I even lowered it to 1 now and it still works...
[11:47] <abattoir> ironfroggy: heh, :)
[11:47] <ironfroggy> abattoir: you have to hit cancel on on confirming the partitions, and then select a line in the overview text. thats obscure.
[11:48] <abattoir> iirc, when you choose a partition, and then 'yes, format it' you get to choose the partition type too
[11:48] <abattoir> along w/ the mountpoint etc.
[11:48] <ironfroggy> it never asked me.
[11:48] <ironfroggy> i say "yes" and it will just go straight into the defaults and start partitioning and formatting.
[11:49] <abattoir> you mean, after you select 'manual partitioning' and then select an individual partition?
[11:50] <ironfroggy> "manual partitioning" isnt clear that it includes filesystem configuration. partitions are not filesystems :-)
[11:50] <aliasfred> q. does the apt source list support something like /etc/apt/sources.d/[list of file]  with each of the file in the list contains repository description ?
[11:52] <abattoir> ironfroggy: well, we could keep arguing about it, but wouldnt you need a partition first to have a file system on it? :P
[11:52] <abattoir> so isnt 'partitioning' the main step?
[11:52] <Ashex> well, looks like i've run into  a wall of errors i can't penetrate
[11:52] <abattoir> you choose which partitions you want to format... then the file system :)
[11:52] <Ashex> !tell me about pastebin
[11:53] <aegeanlinux> !pastebin
[11:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:54] <Ashex> think you can penetrate the errors?
[11:54] <Ashex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18507
[11:56] <abattoir> it *could* be a problem w/ splashy itself
[11:56] <abattoir> no debs available?
[11:56] <Ashex> they're 32-bit
[11:58] <ironfroggy> why does eclipse require that i install pretty much all of gnome, and mozilla-browser even tho i have firefox?
[12:02] <Ashex> bah
[12:02] <Ashex> i'm calling it a night
[12:02] <D4m4ge> hello
[12:17] <Pupeno> If I build and install linux 2.6.17 I'll need to rebuild fglrx and restricted modules, right ?
[12:20] <larry123> hi, how to add a command to the init sequence before GDM comes up ?
[12:20] <larry123> thanks
[12:25] <arso> when i play videos using any player
[12:25] <arso> the quality doesnt come out that good
[12:25] <arso> its WAY better on windows
[12:25] <arso> with the same files
[12:25] <Pupeno> arso: what kind of videos ?
[12:25] <Pupeno> arso: that is, what type/format ?
[12:25] <arso> tv series, movies
[12:25] <arso> avi
[12:25] <arso> .bin
[12:26] <arso> pretty much ANY video
[12:26] <Pupeno> arso: run xine-check in a konsole and watch out for possible problems in your system.
[12:29] <arso> ok
[12:30] <arso> thnx
[12:30] <arso> xine-check
[12:30] <arso> bash: xine-check: command not found
[12:31] <grand-sch> .
[12:31] <grand-sch> hi
[12:31] <grand-sch> bonjour
[12:32] <nico8481> hi
[12:35] <grand-sch> can someone tell me where i can find help in french or deutch ?
[12:35] <grand-sch> i can try to ask my question in english but it will be i very bad language
[12:35] <grand-sch> anybody able (ready) to read me ?
[12:36] <markc> sure, what is oyur problem ?
[12:36] <markc> your
[12:36] <grand-sch> oki.
[12:36] <grand-sch> i have a laptop (oldy) : compaq presario
[12:36] <grand-sch> the problems are :
[12:36] <grand-sch> 1. i only have 64M of memory
[12:37] <grand-sch> 2. when the installer atempt to reach to harddisk, it stops the installation (hanging)
[12:37] <arso> Pupeno:  u therere?
[12:37] <rpedro_> !fr
[12:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:37] <rpedro_> !de
[12:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:37] <grand-sch> can i get a version who can run with 64 M ?
[12:37] <Pupeno> arso: yes, but a bit busy.
[12:37] <grand-sch> merci ubotu
[12:37] <arso> Pupeno:  xine-check doesnt work :(
[12:37] <arso> wrong command
[12:38] <markc> grand-sch> are you using the livecd or the installation CD ?
[12:38] <Pupeno> arso: you have to install it if you don't have it.
[12:38] <markc> Pupeno> what package is it in ?
[12:38] <grand-sch> markc> yes kubuntu 6.06
[12:38] <arso> Pupeno:  i do
[12:38] <arso> i'll check in adept Pupeno
[12:38] <Pupeno> arso: what do you mean ?
[12:38] <arso> maybe i forgot to instal it
[12:38] <markc> Pupeno> but the liveCD or the installation CD ? ... the liveCD requires at least 128 mb of ram
[12:39] <rpedro_> grand-sch: with 64MB ram , you should be running the alternate cd installer
[12:39] <markc> apt-cache search xine-check returns nothing
[12:39] <Pupeno> markc: what are you talking about ?
[12:39] <rpedro_> grand-sch: minimum for desktop cd is 256MB, I believe
[12:39] <Pupeno> arso: ok.
[12:39] <markc> Pupeno> sorry, wrong person
[12:39] <arso> Pupeno:  there are so many i have 4 installed, which is the main one ?
[12:40] <grand-sch> rpedro_> where can i catch the alternate cd installer ?
[12:40] <rpedro_> grand-sch: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <Pupeno> arso:
[12:41] <Pupeno> pupeno@plab:~$ apt-file search xine-check
[12:41] <Pupeno> xine-ui: usr/bin/xine-check
[12:41] <arso> ok installing that now
[12:41] <grand-sch> rpedro_> oki, i suppose i have to download it and put it on a cd
[12:41] <rpedro_> grand-sch: and with that much ram , I suggest you try the xubuntu distro
[12:41] <Pupeno> sorry, I don't know if adept can do such a search.
[12:41] <rpedro_> grand-sch: KDE is somewhat memory hungry, so is Gnome
[12:42] <arso> Pupeno:  i am installing "xine-ui" now, it wasnt installed
[12:42] <Pupeno> arso: ok.
[12:42] <rpedro_> grand-sch: what OS are you running now ?
[12:42] <arso> simply installing that, fixes xine on all media apps?
[12:43] <grand-sch> rpedro_> kde or gnome : both are convienent : wich one is better for the memory usage ? i suppose gnome ?
[12:43] <Pupeno> arso: no, running xine-check may find some problem in your system (like disabled DMA) that might show why you have a poor performance in all players.
[12:43] <arso> i see
[12:43] <Pupeno> arso: it is just one guess, it may not be a good guess, but I start there to solve any video-related problems and most of the time I succed.
[12:43] <rpedro_> grand-sch: probably, though really not much difference
[12:43] <arso> Pupeno:   i see, thnx,
[12:44] <markc> grand-sch> consider using something like fluxbox for a desktop system
[12:44] <arso> Pupeno:  i 'll do a xine check after installation finishes
[12:44] <Pupeno> ok.
[12:44] <rpedro_> grand-sch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto <- instructions for burning an iso to cd
[12:45] <grand-sch> markc> oups ? didn't understand
[12:45] <grand-sch> rpedro> thx
[12:45] <markc> it's a pity that howto does not include console/shell instructions
[12:46] <markc> grand-sch> fluxbox is a small window manager ... if you really only need to run firefox and thunderbord then you only need a light window manager, you do not need Gnome or KDE for gui apps
[12:47] <grand-sch> markc>oki a also have the intention to use open office and a (simple) chat program, eventualy a html editor en a ftp client
[12:48] <markc> grand-sch> for instance, get the alternate installation CD, install a shell based system then only install xorg. fluxbox and the actual GUI apps you need
[12:49] <markc> grand-sch> openoffice in 64mb of ram will be a challenge... all the more reason not to run Gnome or KDE as well
[12:49] <scheuri> hi all
[12:49] <markc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox?highlight=%28fluxbox%29
[12:50] <grand-sch> markc> thx for links
[12:50] <markc> grand-sch> nedit is a great GUI editor that does not depend on Gnome or KDE
[12:50] <grand-sch> rpedro> when i go to cdimage.ubuntu.com i arrive to bazaar ... i don't immediatly see how to download the alternative
[12:52] <rpedro> grand-sch: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/  , this links to the xubuntu isos
[12:52] <markc> grand-sch>  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-1/ <- could be interesting
[12:53] <rpedro> markc: don't suggest edgy, it's still pretty much broken I think
[12:53] <markc> rpedro> a better option than trying to upgrade from dapper though
[12:54] <rpedro> markc: you need edgy to install fluxbox on Ubuntu ?
[12:55] <markc> rpedro> in my case I need a later kernel, yes... upgrading a kernel on dapper does not work
[12:56] <markc> rpedro> if anyone happens to need a later kernel for more uptodate drivers then it MAY be better to start from a recent edgy install
[12:56] <arso> Pupeno: no xine-config on this machine
[12:56] <arso> Pupeno:  i cant find "xine-config" in adept :(,,
[12:57] <rpedro> markc: ok then
[12:57] <arso> Pupeno:  that was "ouch" in xine0-check, rest is fine
[12:59] <grand-sch> rpedro> markc> conclusion : i will burn a cd with edgy and try a new installation run
[12:59] <arso> i need to isntall xine-config, however i cant find it in adept, anyone?
[12:59] <grand-sch> rpedro> markc> conclusion 2 : thx for your help and comments
[01:00] <grand-sch> now my second problem !
[01:01] <arso> help anyonme please
[01:01] <grand-sch> the harddisk is EMPTY ! i suppose so. What do i have to do to prepare the harddisk  as best as possible for an ubuntu installation ?
[01:01] <rpedro> grand-sch: how big is the harddisk ?
[01:01] <grand-sch> 2 G
[01:01] <grand-sch> lol
[01:02] <rpedro> ah
[01:02] <grand-sch> how small is it !
[01:02] <rpedro> ok, another reason not to install a full ubuntu system
[01:02] <grand-sch> yess
[01:03] <rpedro> grand-sch: I would just create a swap partition of about 200MB
[01:03] <markc> grand-sch> very small, I'd say allocate 1.9gb fro the main root partition and only allocate 150mb for a swap partition
[01:03] <rpedro> grand-sch: and one big partition for root
[01:03] <markc> rpedro> sorry, I'll stay out of it
[01:03] <rpedro> markc: it's ok...
[01:04] <grand-sch> how can i check is the hd is reachable ? for the memory i can run a memory-test, but i don't know how to check the hd
[01:05] <markc> grand-sch> from a shell their is program called "badblocks" that does a low level check
[01:05] <grand-sch> markc> oki, how can i go to the shell ?
[01:06] <grand-sch> i am a big newbie isn't it ?
[01:06] <markc> grand-sch> where are you know ? is this harddrive on the computer you are currently using ?
[01:06] <grand-sch> (;-)
[01:06] <grand-sch> now i am on a second laptop
[01:07] <grand-sch> the laptop i want to use to install ubuntu a near me. a can't do nothing with it because it is empty
[01:08] <markc> grand-sch> then when you boot up on that alternate installation CD you will get to a shell (I think, never used it) and at that point you can start to use some tools to investigate your hardware
[01:08] <Pylon> Hi, I have a short question: Is there any good reason, why the hostname must be at least three characters long in the graphical installation mode?
[01:08] <markc> grand-sch> ls -l /dev/hd*  <- will provide the main clue as to where your hardrive is
[01:09] <markc> grand-sch> you will probably have a /dev/hda 2Gb IDE drive so you could use badblocks /dev/hda to check it out and cfdisk /dev/hda to partition it
[01:10] <grand-sch> markc>oki, i also have to use that alternate box. I will first start with taht job and will be back after that.
[01:11] <grand-sch> markc> so recapitulation : 1. burn a cd with  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-1
[01:11] <markc> grand-sch> the installation procedure may help you all the way through the installation process, however, if you get stuch you can usually go to an alternate shell via crtl-alt-f2 and run manual commands from that shell
[01:12] <markc> get stuck
[01:12] <grand-sch> markc> 2. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[01:13] <grand-sch> 3. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox?highlight=%28fluxbox%29
[01:13] <grand-sch> 4. look at my harddisk
[01:13] <grand-sch> markc>5. come back here ! lol
[01:14] <markc> grand-sch> yes :) once you have booted up into the installation CD on the laptop then we can help you some more
[01:15] <grand-sch> great ! thx for tips. read you later ...
[01:15] <markc> grand-sch> 'k, good luck
[01:17] <ubuntu___> Hi, i'm trying to install kubuntu from the CD and i ran qtparted and when i click on the disk it says Critical error during ped_disk_new!
[01:18] <ubuntu___> what should i do? is the old installer that was in 5.10 on this disk? that worked well
[01:20] <ubuntu__> ok i'm back, so any help, i can't partition the disk with the installer either
[01:21] <Pylon> ubuntu__: Did you partitioned it already?  So probably you need to reboot, so that your BIOS knows the new layout.
[01:22] <ubuntu__> Well i'm doing a total reinstall of everything, i just installed windows and now its kubuntu
[01:23] <ubuntu__> it isn't partitioned yet, kubuntu has to do that
[01:23] <ubuntu__> kubuntu and windows are on different hard drives,
[01:24] <ubuntu__> oh no wait they are on the same drive but i also have another drive
[01:24] <ubuntu__> i bet your all confused now
[01:25] <ubuntu__> well i installed windows, 15mb for a boot partition for windows where boot.ini is and stuff, then i want kubuntu (which i'm doing now)
[01:26] <ubuntu__> i want kubuntu on xfs and so i need a /boot partition, /swap /home and a /
[01:26] <ubuntu__> but i already have a space for /home on the second drive which is 10gb and that is to be just formatted
[01:26] <ubuntu__> and i think thats everything
[01:27] <arso> do different distro's have different commands and stufF?
[01:27] <ubuntu__> so HDA: 15mb (windows for boot thing) 49gb (kubuntu root) 28gb for windows and 500mb for swap
[01:28] <arso> i still dont know wat the difference is between distros
[01:28] <grand-sch> !nl
[01:28] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[01:28] <markc> arso> not much, it's still "linux"
[01:29] <arso> markc:  so then wat are the differences between 2 distros using the same desktop environment
[01:29] <ubuntu__> and HDB: /mnt/archive 180GB and the rest for /home
[01:30] <ubuntu__> Thats how i want it
[01:30] <markc> arso> not much, 99% on the surface will be the same... depends if it's a redhat based system or debian (or gentoo) as to the package system
[01:31] <ubuntu__> :(
[01:32] <ubuntu__> is there an updated installer i could use without the bugs?
[01:32] <ubuntu__> or is the old installer on the disk?
[01:33] <markc> ubuntu__> what are you using now ?
[01:33] <ubuntu__> the install CD, i'm using konversation
[01:33] <markc> ubuntu__> dapper 6.06 liveCD for PC ?
[01:34] <ubuntu__> dapper 6.06 Desktop CD
[01:34] <markc> ubuntu__> I did a couple of installs last night using nothing but the installer, worked okay for me
[01:35] <ubuntu__> did you partition the disk manually? tried xfs?
[01:35] <BKaj> 'Morning all
[01:35] <markc> ubuntu__> yes and no, I did twiddle with the disk first but no, I used ext3
[01:36] <ubuntu__> ok thanks, i'll install from dapper flight 6, that had the old installer i think, thats what i used before
[01:36] <arso> BKaj:  hey,g'morning
[01:37] <markc> ubuntu__> if I were you I'd try a standard ext3 install first and let the installer do what it wants. make sure you can boot on it, then try the cd install again for xfs
[01:37] <DjDarkman> hy ,I have serious performance problems ,and I don`t know what`s causing it ,can someone help me find out what`s the problem?
[01:38] <arso> can anyone help me out, video quality is shitty, its way bbeetter on windows, for the same files.
[01:38] <arso> i did a xine-check, everything turned out fine
[01:38] <DjDarkman> arso: why don`t you try mplayer instead?
[01:38] <BKaj> hi arso
[01:38] <arso> DjDarkman:  i tried mplayer too, same thing
[01:38] <markc> ubuntu__> I'm not sure why you need the initial 15mb partition... if you allow 30gb for windows on hda1 as a primary partition, then start the linux partitions at hda5 (logical) then you can have more than 4 partitions
[01:38] <arso> BKaj:  hello
[01:40] <DjDarkman> so can anynone help me track the problem of the performance loss of my system?
[01:40] <arso> hey mplayer fullscreen is coming windowed, how can i have unwindowed full
[01:40] <markc> ubuntu__> I let the 6.06 installer resize an XP partiton on a new laptop and it worked! .. dual boot an all
[01:40] <BKaj> Mplayer does a nice job on this old CRT Monitor-Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 73
[01:41] <arso> ok fixed that
[01:41] <arso> it has its own engine right? not xine
[01:41] <DjDarkman> arso: mplayer has nothing in common with xine
[01:41] <BKaj> yeah markc, check the sizes of the partitions
[01:41] <arso> hmm how do i move the seekbar
[01:41] <arso> DjDarkman:  i see, thats good
[01:41] <DjDarkman> arso: are you using mplayer or gmplayer?
[01:42] <arso> mplayer
[01:42] <BKaj> it's actually kmplayer id yer using KDE
[01:42] <arso> and i have kmplayer too
[01:42] <markc> ubuntu__> ah no, I manually used cfdisk to force linux onto hda5 because I wanted a few extra partitons for testing
[01:42] <BKaj> if
[01:42] <arso> BKaj:  i have both
[01:42] <arso> no idea why :P
[01:42] <BKaj> yeah, most do arso
[01:43] <DjDarkman> BKaj: do you know why isn`t kmplayer functioning as mplayer?
[01:43] <BKaj> hda5 whew
[01:44] <BKaj> the kde desktop version of mplayer IS kmplayer. they're the same
[01:44] <DjDarkman> BKaj: but the hotkeyes and other stuff aren`t working
[01:44] <arso> BKaj:  when i try to open any file with kmplayer i get "xine not running" ?
[01:44] <arso> but the same files work fine with Mplayer
[01:45] <BKaj> oh no sorry ..wrong again , Mplayer is different
[01:45] <DjDarkman> arso: use gmplayer
[01:45] <arso> lol
[01:45] <arso> kmplayer uses xine ?
[01:46] <DjDarkman> arso: I dunno ,kmplayer isn`t the same as mplayer
[01:46] <arso> BKaj:  wats the difference from Mplayer?
[01:46] <arso> gmplayer vs mplayer
[01:46] <DjDarkman> arso: gmplayer is mplayer with gui :)
[01:46] <arso> i see
[01:46] <DjDarkman> that`s why it`s called gmplayer
[01:46] <DjDarkman> but kmplayer is something else
[01:47] <arso> so should i uninstal kmplayer and mplayer? will they slow my pc down?
[01:47] <markc> arso> I sometimes prefer mplayer started from a shell because it spews out lots of info about the hardware and audio video codecs used which can be useful to diagnose problems
[01:47] <DjDarkman> arso: no way
[01:47] <arso> k good
[01:47] <DjDarkman> arso: don`t uninstall anyithing
[01:47] <arso> btw, i cant find gmplayer on adept
[01:47] <arso> is it for gnome or something?
[01:48] <BKaj> anyway mplayersorry guys , I never did get kmplayer to work, but it is on the repos and mplayer is available thru automatix
[01:48] <markc> arso> so is kaffeine not working for you ?
[01:48] <arso> it is
[01:48] <DjDarkman> arso: did you enable some repositories?
[01:48] <BKaj> kmplayer is on synaptic , mplayer is on automatix
[01:49] <markc> arso> perhaps your video hardware is not accelarated and that may be the reason for poor results
[01:49] <arso> those universal and multiverse or something?
[01:49] <arso> BKaj:  are those like adept?
[01:49] <DjDarkman> BKaj: mplayer is on some backports or somewhere
[01:49] <arso> markc:  how can i check if its accelerated or not?
[01:49] <arso> markc:  i have an ati btw
[01:49] <DjDarkman> arso: do you have ati drivers installed?
[01:50] <BKaj> ihave mplayer installed thru automatix
[01:50] <arso> DjDarkman:  yes
[01:50] <markc> arso> oh, I use nvidia, I'm sure if you search the forums you'll find ati/dri howto instructions
[01:50] <arso> BKaj:  how about gmplayer, do u have that installed?
[01:50] <arso> markc:  i already instaled them
[01:50] <BKaj> first , arso see if the synaptic package manager is listed in your adept pkg manager
[01:51] <arso> ok
[01:51] <BKaj> no arso
[01:51] <arso> if not, instal it?
[01:51] <DjDarkman> arso: you have to edit your repositories trhu adept or what you like
[01:51] <arso> edit them to wat
[01:51] <DjDarkman> arso: wait I`ll show you mine
[01:51] <DjDarkman> are you using dapper arso?
[01:52] <arso> i think so
[01:52] <arso> latest kubuntu a month a go
[01:52] <BKaj> once you have synaptic installed  , automatix may be listed if you have akk the repos listed and enabled
[01:52] <BKaj> all
[01:52] <DjDarkman> BKaj: he can do it without automatix
[01:52] <arso> installing synaptic now
[01:52] <arso> wats uatomatix
[01:52] <arso> automatix*
[01:53] <DjDarkman> arso: automatix is a script
[01:53] <BKaj> well dj
[01:53] <DjDarkman> that installes a lot of popular apps
[01:53] <arso> oh
[01:53] <arso> is that recommended? doesnt it overload ur system?
[01:54] <BKaj> DjDarkman: if he wants mplayer , that's all I can think of
[01:54] <DjDarkman> BKaj: all he has to do is to edit the sourceesl.list
[01:54] <BKaj> you can pick and choose
[01:54] <DjDarkman> now arso open a terminal and type what i say
[01:54] <arso> okay
[01:54] <arso> u know wat ur doing right :P ?
[01:54] <BKaj> yes DjDarkman , that's what I did
[01:55] <DjDarkman> arso: I have gmplayer installed right? ;)
[01:55] <arso> hehe okay then
[01:55] <arso> umm adept is instaling synaptic now
[01:55] <omeow> Does anyone know what the reason might be for my vfat partition to be mounted as rw and after a while going into read only mode?
[01:55] <arso> shouldi cancel that? or just let it end
[01:56] <DjDarkman> arso: wait for it to finish
[01:56] <BKaj> by all means install synaptic
[01:56] <arso> okay then
[01:56] <DjDarkman> synaptic is a good package maneger
[01:56] <arso> 60%
[01:56] <BKaj> prefer it to adept
[01:57] <DjDarkman> yep it`s faster then adept for me
[01:57] <arso> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213026      ati drivers/support are gay on linux :S
[01:57] <markc> arso> to check for accellerated video, in a shell type -> glxinfo | grep direct
[01:57] <arso> ok synaptic is installed
[01:58] <DjDarkman> arso: that`s ati`s fauld ,nvidia drivers work just fine ,but I have a friend that uses ati on kubuntu and he managed to install it`s driver
[01:58] <arso> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:58] <arso> direct rendering: No
[01:58] <arso> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:58] <DjDarkman> uhhh that`s not good
[01:58] <arso> oh
[01:58] <DjDarkman> arso: what type of ati do you have?
[01:58] <markc> arso> that is where your video problem lies, it should say "yes"
[01:59] <arso> umm i have  ati radeon series 200   256mb
[01:59] <arso> its about 2months old     onboard an intel mboard
[01:59] <arso> integrated
[01:59] <markc> arso> once you fix your video problem then it won't matter which video player you use, they will all do full screen etc
[02:00] <arso> i see
[02:00] <arso> btw fullscreen worked now, just bad quality
[02:00] <arso> so how can we fix the video problem, is it possible?
[02:00] <DjDarkman> ati drivers are just irritating
[02:00] <markc> arso> type -> lspci | grep VGA
[02:00] <thyko> apt-get --purge xx gives me error '"E: Invalid operation purge
[02:00] <thyko> "
[02:00] <thyko> why?
[02:00] <markc>  apt-get --purge remove
[02:01] <thyko> ahaaa!
[02:01] <thyko> markc: thanks
[02:02] <markc> arso> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-145068-p-5.html
[02:02] <BKaj> he has the driver as most ati cards i bet flrgx
[02:03] <dillinger> wow
[02:03] <markc> split us asunder oh great one!
[02:04] <DjDarkman> arso: you here?
[02:04] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[02:04] <dillinger> hello
[02:05] <arso> so sorry
[02:05] <arso> back
[02:05] <DjDarkman> DarkWizzard: arso has same "no direct rendering" problem with an ati card
[02:05] <DarkWizzard> hy
[02:05] <BKaj> arso has the same video setup as me and has the driver like most ati cards i bet, fglrx !
[02:05] <DarkWizzard> what kind of ati card ?
[02:06] <arso> umm ati radeon series 200
[02:06] <markc> arso> type -> lspci | grep VGA
[02:06] <DarkWizzard> aha
[02:06] <DarkWizzard> ok
[02:06] <DarkWizzard> look
[02:06] <DarkWizzard> do you have xorg-driver-fglrx installed ?
[02:06] <arso> cclspci | grep VGA
[02:06] <markc> arso> and have a look at this thread -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-145068-p-5.html
[02:06] <arso> ok checking the thread
[02:06] <DarkWizzard> arso:
[02:06] <DarkWizzard> listen to me
[02:06] <arso> 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a6
[02:06] <DarkWizzard> Had same problem
[02:06] <arso> oh
[02:06] <arso> ok ,  iam listening
[02:07] <DarkWizzard> so you need to replace
[02:07] <DarkWizzard> libGL.so.1.2
[02:07] <DarkWizzard> in /usr/lib
[02:07] <arso> just tell me the steps pleaes :D
[02:07] <DarkWizzard> and /usr/lib/fglrx
[02:07] <DjDarkman> DarkWizzard: tell him the exact comands
[02:07] <DjDarkman> step by step
[02:07] <DarkWizzard> with the previouse one
[02:08] <BKaj> DarkWizzard: its likely the very same as my ati card TI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series] 
[02:08] <arso> yes please
[02:08] <arso> that would be great
[02:08] <DarkWizzard> arso:
[02:08] <arso> yes
[02:08] <DarkWizzard> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:08] <arso> xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
[02:08] <arso> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:08] <DarkWizzard> ok
[02:08] <DarkWizzard> sudo aticonfig --initial
[02:08] <arso> its there it seems
[02:09] <DarkWizzard> aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[02:09] <arso> f
[02:09] <arso> ound fglrx primary device section
[02:09] <arso> Nothing to do, terminating
[02:09] <DarkWizzard> and now
[02:09] <DarkWizzard> ok
[02:09] <DarkWizzard> cd /usr/lib
[02:09] <DarkWizzard> sudo cd /usr/lib
[02:09] <DarkWizzard> sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so1.2.old
[02:09] <arso> ok
[02:10] <DarkWizzard> sudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.2
[02:10] <DarkWizzard> after that
[02:10] <DarkWizzard> cd /usr/lib/fglrx
[02:10] <DarkWizzard> i mean
[02:10] <DarkWizzard> sudo cd /usr/lib/fglrx
[02:10] <DarkWizzard> sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old
[02:10] <DarkWizzard> and sudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.2
[02:10] <DarkWizzard> after that reboot
[02:10] <DarkWizzard> and it should work
[02:11] <DarkWizzard> if not read this
[02:11] <DarkWizzard> http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/index.php?link=13
[02:11] <markc> DarkWizzard> excellent, assuming that works it should be a recipe on the wiki !
[02:11] <arso> sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old
[02:11] <DjDarkman> DarkWizzard: I think he needs to restart x ,no?
[02:11] <arso> oops
[02:12] <arso> mv: cannot stat `libGL.so.1.2': No such file or directory
[02:12] <DarkWizzard> are you in /usr/lib ?
[02:12] <markc> pwd
[02:12] <DarkWizzard> sudo cd /usr/lib
[02:12] <arso>  fgrx
[02:12] <DjDarkman> arso: he ment to type it in the terminal :)
[02:12] <Kano_Kubuntu> hi, whats the purpose of
[02:12] <arso> ya
[02:12] <Kano_Kubuntu> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw
[02:12] <BKaj> I think his driver already was the fglrx
[02:12] <DarkWizzard> arso in what folder are you ?
[02:13] <markc> arso> type pwd
[02:13] <Pupeno> anyone with a thinkpad t60 ?
[02:13] <arso> sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old
[02:14] <BKaj> yeah my daughter, but she's not here, sorry
[02:14] <arso> DarkWizzard:  somethings wrong .. keep getting sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old
[02:14] <DarkWizzard> look
[02:14] <DarkWizzard> cd /usr/lib/fglrx
[02:14] <DarkWizzard> and try this
[02:14] <DarkWizzard> sudo cp libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old
[02:15] <DarkWizzard> and sudo rm -rf libGL.so.1.2
[02:15] <arso> cp: cannot stat `libGL.so.1.2': No such file or directory
[02:15] <DarkWizzard> hmmmmmmm
[02:15] <DjDarkman> DarkWizzard: I think the move operation was successfull
[02:15] <DjDarkman> then
[02:15] <markc> type ls -l libGL* and see what is there
[02:15] <DarkWizzard> ls /usr/lib |grep libGL
[02:15] <arso> so libGL isnt there?
[02:15] <rpedro> arso: problems with direct rendering ?
[02:16] <DarkWizzard> arso: move on to the next step then
[02:16] <arso> libGL.so.1
[02:16] <arso> libGL.so1.2.old
[02:16] <arso> libGLU.so.1
[02:16] <arso> libGLU.so.1.3.060401
[02:16] <markc> rpedro> yes, with an ati card
[02:16] <DarkWizzard> ok then
[02:16] <DarkWizzard> good
[02:16] <DarkWizzard> so
[02:16] <arso> "sudo rm -rf libGL.so.1.2"
[02:16] <DarkWizzard> sudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.2
[02:16] <DarkWizzard> let that go
[02:16] <DarkWizzard> move on
[02:16] <arso> oh isnt the next step sudo rm -rf libGL.so.1.2
[02:16] <DarkWizzard> to the next step
[02:16] <arso> ok
[02:16] <DarkWizzard> tipe
[02:16] <DarkWizzard> sudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.2
[02:17] <arso> cok
[02:17] <arso> ok resolving..
[02:18] <rpedro> arso: take a look here >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283 , particularly the troubleshooting tip about making links to /usr/lib/dri , it fixed that for me
[02:18] <arso> resolving darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org... failed: Name or service not known.
[02:18] <arso> rpedro:  sure, i'll take a look
[02:18] <DarkWizzard> wtf
[02:18] <DarkWizzard> arso: sudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.2
[02:19] <DarkWizzard> exacltly in this form
[02:19] <arso> ok
[02:19] <arso> resolving
[02:19] <arso> ok downloading :D 40%
[02:19] <DarkWizzard> k
[02:19] <arso> wat was wrong with the first link
[02:19] <DarkWizzard> let it download
[02:19] <DarkWizzard> nothing
[02:19] <DarkWizzard> it was the sam
[02:19] <DarkWizzard> e
[02:20] <arso> oh.. so wat was the wrong
[02:20] <arso> woops,. wat was wrong*
[02:20] <arso> ok its done
[02:20] <BKaj> is anyone familiar with Kororaa project live cd for Xgl ?
[02:20] <DarkWizzard> downloaded ?
[02:20] <arso> yes
[02:20] <DarkWizzard> BKaj: seen that
[02:20] <DarkWizzard> ok
[02:20] <DarkWizzard> now
[02:20] <DarkWizzard> cd /usr/lib/fglrx
[02:20] <DarkWizzard> sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old
[02:20] <DarkWizzard> and again
[02:21] <DarkWizzard> sudo wget http://darkwizzard.phoenix-hosting.org/articles/libGL.so.1.2
[02:21] <arso> nothing happened at "sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2.old"
[02:21] <DarkWizzard> ok
[02:21] <DarkWizzard> then
[02:21] <DarkWizzard> move to the next
[02:21] <arso> resolving
[02:22] <DjDarkman> arso: actualy something did happen then ,but it didn`t output nothing ,but don`t let this confuse you
[02:22] <arso> ok
[02:22] <DarkWizzard> is it downloading ?
[02:22] <arso> its done
[02:22] <DarkWizzard> ok now
[02:23] <DarkWizzard> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/dri /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri
[02:23] <DarkWizzard> and when youre done
[02:23] <arso> no output
[02:23] <DarkWizzard> feel free to reboot
[02:23] <DarkWizzard> or restart x
[02:23] <DarkWizzard> no proble
[02:23] <DarkWizzard> it has no output
[02:24] <DjDarkman> arso: type ps aux | grep X
[02:24] <arso> only ig ij
[02:24] <arso> oh ok
[02:24] <arso> DjDarkman:  wat does that do?
[02:24] <DjDarkman> paste the second line of the output
[02:24] <DjDarkman> arso: it tells X`s pid
[02:25] <arso> type ps aux | grep X
[02:25] <arso> bash: type: aux: not found
[02:25] <DarkWizzard> well
[02:25] <DarkWizzard> just reboot
[02:25] <abattoir> arso: 'ps aux'....
[02:25] <DarkWizzard> thats the best
[02:25] <DjDarkman> arso: I said ps aux | grep X
[02:25] <abattoir> i think you omitted ps
[02:26] <DjDarkman> DarkWizzard: actualy it`s the same
[02:26] <DarkWizzard> well yes
[02:26] <DarkWizzard> but if any kernel modules need loading
[02:26] <arso> ok got 3 lines of output
[02:26] <DarkWizzard> then maybe its necesary
[02:26] <DjDarkman> paste the second line arso
[02:26] <DarkWizzard> ohh just press ctrl alt backspace
[02:26] <arso> uth/A:0-NOU2tp
[02:28] <enricov> hi to all
[02:28] <arso_> i am back
[02:28] <arso_> wy didnt u tel me it restarts !!!
[02:28] <arso_> i didnt save some stuf
[02:28] <arso_> oh well
[02:28] <DarkWizzard> and now
[02:28] <DarkWizzard> fglrxinfo
[02:28] <arso_> in regular konsole
[02:28] <arso_> or cd /usr/bin
[02:28] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[02:28] <DarkWizzard> regular
[02:28] <DarkWizzard> but it doesnt really matter
[02:28] <arso_> fglrxinfo
[02:28] <arso_> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared                                                                                  object file: No such file or directory
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> hmm
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> well
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> then
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> sudo cd /usr/bin
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> cd /usr/bin/fglrx
[02:29] <Pupeno_> DarkWizzard: on bin ? don't you mean lib ?
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> ohh
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> err
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[02:29] <arso_> lol
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> thanks
[02:29] <DarkWizzard> :)
[02:29] <arso_> cd /usr/lib ?
[02:30] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[02:30] <arso_> ok
[02:30] <arso_> Pupeno thanx :D
[02:30] <DarkWizzard> and cd /usr/lib/fglrx
[02:30] <DarkWizzard> sudo mv libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1
[02:30] <arso_> ok done
[02:30] <arso_> no output
[02:30] <DarkWizzard> now again
[02:31] <DarkWizzard> ctrl alt backspace
[02:31] <arso_> okay
[02:32] <arso> ok
[02:32] <arso> now wat
[02:33] <DarkWizzard> fglrxinfo
[02:33] <DarkWizzard> again
[02:33] <arso> oh god
[02:33] <arso> fglrxinfo
[02:33] <arso> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
[02:34] <DarkWizzard> hmmm
[02:34] <arso> =(
[02:34] <DarkWizzard> open konqueror
[02:34] <DarkWizzard> with root
[02:34] <arso> kdesu konqueror?
[02:34] <DarkWizzard> sudo konqueror
[02:34] <DarkWizzard> wait no
[02:34] <DarkWizzard> ls /usr/lib |grep libGL
[02:35] <arso> libGL.so.1
[02:35] <arso> libGL.so1.2.old
[02:35] <arso> libGLU.so.1
[02:35] <arso> libGLU.so.1.3.060401
[02:35] <arso> btw wat does |grep do?
[02:35] <DarkWizzard> filter
[02:35] <DarkWizzard> hmmm
[02:35] <DarkWizzard> and now
[02:35] <DarkWizzard> ls /usr/lib/fglrx |grep libGL
[02:36] <klerfayt> I've got some issues with nvidia-glx > nvidia-settings keep resetting ad don't remember my preferences
[02:36] <arso> libGL.so.1
[02:36] <arso> libGL.so.1.2.old
[02:36] <arso> libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa
[02:36] <arso> libGL.so.1.xlibmesa
[02:37] <DarkWizzard> try rebooting
[02:37] <arso> btw quick question off-topic
[02:37] <arso> how can i change the color in windows behavior
[02:37] <arso> its stuck on blue
[02:37] <DarkWizzard> sudo kcontrol
[02:37] <DjDarkman> klerfayt: what settings do you mean?
[02:38] <DjDarkman> DarkWizzard: he don`t needs root priveleges for that
[02:38] <klerfayt> DjDarkman: when run "nvidia-settings
[02:38] <DarkWizzard> then just kcontrol
[02:38] <arso> ok
[02:38] <arso> then
[02:38] <DjDarkman> klerfayt: did you do this before sudo apt-get --assume-yes install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` ?
[02:38] <klerfayt> DjDarkman: yes drivers work
[02:39] <DarkWizzard> maybe some permission errors
[02:39] <^osh^> Anyone good at building packages here? I have some questions.
[02:39] <arso> DarkWizzard:  cant i use custom colors? theyre all preset with 3 colors
[02:39] <DjDarkman> klerfayt: did you run nvidia-settings with root?
[02:39] <klerfayt> DjDarkman: no
[02:40] <DjDarkman> klerfayt: then sudo nvidia-settings
[02:40] <DjDarkman> and it should work even after you reboot
[02:40] <DarkWizzard> i'm not sure what you mean when you say windows behavior
[02:40] <klerfayt> DjDarkman: ok I'll try that
[02:40] <^osh^> I'm using pbuilder (which executes in a fakeroot iirc) but I still get a "install: cannot create regular file ....."
[02:40] <arso> DarkWizzard:  just the top toolbar with minimize and close , how do ichange blue to red for instance
[02:41] <^osh^> And I'm using sudo to start pbuilder...
[02:41] <DarkWizzard> you cant
[02:41] <DarkWizzard> you need to change window decorations
[02:41] <klerfayt> DjDarkman: and then I got this  ERROR: Error parsing configuration file '/home/kristjan/.nvidia-settings-rc' on line 36: '0/RedBrightness=0.000000' (Trailing garbage).
[02:41] <DarkWizzard> look on kde-look.org
[02:41] <DarkWizzard> for one you like
[02:41] <arso> i see ok
[02:41] <arso> and how do i instal those
[02:42] <BKaj> I'm still trying to install Xgl , however the Kororaa Xgl-live-cd freezes the scrn after booting and scanning the hardware loading the drivers ...has anyone tried this live cd ?
[02:42] <DarkWizzard> there are more
[02:42] <DarkWizzard> maybe you need decorator
[02:42] <DarkWizzard> dekorator
[02:42] <arso> hmm i created new theme in theme manager, and when i click colors nothing opens
[02:42] <pepsi> hrm
[02:42] <DjDarkman> hmmmm that`s strange klerfayt
[02:42] <pepsi> theres like a bazillion settings for changing how windows look
[02:42] <DarkWizzard> arso they are install tips for every one of them
[02:42] <arso> DarkWizzard:  anyways, thats unimportant, ia m going to reboot then for the ati problem
[02:42] <pepsi> is there an easy way to pick settings that look halfway decent?
[02:42] <arso> i'l check it later
[02:42] <arso> brb reboot
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> I did
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> well i got it working
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> but it was really ugly
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> and slow
[02:43] <DjDarkman> klerfayt: try cd /home/kristjan/
[02:43] <arso> back
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> that was a fast reboot
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> I mean reboot
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> !
[02:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:43] <arso> ehe
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> not just kill DX
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> X
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> you know
[02:43] <arso> i did
[02:43] <DarkWizzard> the reset button on your computer
[02:43] <arso> alt ctrl backspace
[02:43] <DjDarkman> klerfayt: mv .nvidia-settings-rc .nvidia-settings-rc.backup
[02:43] <arso> oh ok
[02:44] <arso> log out  restart
[02:44] <DjDarkman> klerfayt: and then sudo nvidia-settings
[02:44] <DarkWizzard> or just push the f button
[02:44] <pepsi> f is for fun?
[02:44] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[02:44] <DarkWizzard> its for funny
[02:45] <klerfayt> DjDarkman: it's same with cd'ing to home, but it isn't shown then I remove nvidia-settings file
[02:45] <BKaj> DarkWizzard: are you saying you tried Xgl and it was ugly ?
[02:45] <DarkWizzard> no
[02:45] <DarkWizzard> I say that I didn't have enough hardware
[02:45] <DarkWizzard> to make it work decently
[02:45] <DarkWizzard> everything was slow
[02:45] <DarkWizzard> and it fell apart
[02:45] <^osh^> Noone here who can answer some questions about how to pack a .deb?
[02:45] <DjDarkman> klerfayt: don`t quite understand you ,did you move the nvidia settings file?
[02:46] <DjDarkman> ^osh^: look on the forum
[02:46] <arso> ba k
[02:46] <DarkWizzard> ok
[02:46] <arso> thats more like it eh
[02:46] <DarkWizzard> now
[02:46] <DarkWizzard> fglrx
[02:46] <BKaj> IC. it's supposed to work with my ati card (same as arso's btw) , but he scrn freezes afert bootup and loading
[02:46] <DarkWizzard> 9200 SE ?
[02:46] <DjDarkman> I asked the same question and they gave me a link ^osh^ but it was too hard to understandt for me
[02:46] <arso> DarkWizzard:  u mean fglrxinfo?
[02:47] <DarkWizzard> yes
[02:47] <arso> damn same error
[02:47] <arso> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or dir
[02:47] <BKaj> I'm still trying to install Xgl , however the Kororaa Xgl-live-cd freezes the scrn after booting and scanning the hardware loading the drivers ...has anyone tried this live cd ?
[02:47] <^osh^> DjDarkman: Got that link? I'm reading the manual and I do have some packaging experience (from .rpm's) but some things are just quicker to ask.
[02:47] <DarkWizzard> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[02:47] <BKaj> oops sorry
[02:47] <arso> DarkWizzard:  thats for me?
[02:47] <DarkWizzard> yea
[02:47] <DarkWizzard> h
[02:48] <DjDarkman> ^osh^: is it the ubuntu pacakageing manual you are reading?
[02:48] <BKaj> arso , maybe you want to check in system settings / hardware/dispaly/admin mode/hardware/graphics card/configure and see which driver is highlighted in the list for your video card
[02:48] <arso> glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:48] <DarkWizzard> man
[02:48] <arso> BKaj:  check how please?
[02:48] <DarkWizzard> but its there
[02:48] <^osh^> DjDarkman: Yep.
[02:48] <arso> DarkWizzard:  thats weird..
[02:48] <DjDarkman> ^osh^: that`s the link I`ve got
[02:49] <^osh^> DjDarkman: help.ubuntu.com or some such?
[02:49] <BKaj> read the list i gave you, start in the menu at system settings
[02:49] <arso> okay
[02:49] <DjDarkman> don`t know ^osh^ that was long time ago
[02:49] <RandomDude15> is there a channel for avidemux help?
[02:49] <RandomDude15> im running kubuntu and having some issues with avidemux
[02:49] <^osh^> DjDarkman: Ok, thanks for answering though.
[02:50] <RandomDude15> http://www.avidemux.org/pun/viewtopic.php?pid=13814#p13814 - look there.
[02:50] <BKaj> so is ANYONE using Xgl here ?
[02:50] <arso> fglrx is highlighted
[02:50] <BKaj> good!
[02:50] <DarkWizzard> fglrx sucks big time
[02:51] <arso> hmm on the same screen where fglrx is highlighted
[02:51] <arso> video ram is "1mb" wtf? i have 256
[02:51] <BKaj> DarkWizzard: is there another driver that works in kubuntu with ATI cards?
[02:51] <DarkWizzard> there is
[02:51] <RandomDude15> anyone?
[02:51] <DarkWizzard> the default one
[02:51] <DarkWizzard> the simple ati
[02:51] <DarkWizzard> but it has a low fps
[02:51] <arso> but 3d acceleration or watever
[02:51] <RandomDude15> DKaj: save your   self some  trouble and use nvidia
[02:52] <DarkWizzard> and it only works with older cards
[02:52] <arso> too late for me to switch to nvidia, my card is 1month old
[02:52] <BKaj> video ram is different than regular memory ram
[02:52] <arso> ya vga memory right?
[02:52] <DarkWizzard> you just need to put that file in place
[02:52] <arso> my regular ram is 1gb
[02:52] <RandomDude15> I've rather run a 64MB nvidia than a  512MB ati on linux.
[02:52] <DarkWizzard> i have to go
[02:52] <DarkWizzard> bye all
[02:53] <RandomDude15> cya
[02:53] <arso> omg
[02:53] <arso> i am screwed :P
[02:53] <arso> BKaj:  so how come it shows 1mb?
[02:53] <BKaj> yeah RandomDude, well , I'm not a gamer
[02:53] <arso> brb toilet
[02:54] <BKaj> thats' video memory not pc memory arso
[02:56] <RandomDude15> anyone want to help me with avidemux?
[02:58] <Kr4t05> The eject button on my DVD/CD-RW combo drive doesn't work.
[02:59] <Kr4t05> I can use sudo eject /dev/hdb but I want my eject button. ><
[02:59] <arso> BKaj:  back.
[03:00] <arso> BKaj:  i know, my vga is 256 mb
[03:00] <arso> Pupeno:  ur ati?
[03:00] <Pupeno> arso: what ?
[03:00] <arso> Pupeno:  vga is ATI ?
[03:01] <Pupeno> arso: errr, no vga is some kind of specification, ATI is a company that doesn't respect people's freedom.
[03:02] <DjDarkman> Kr4t05: try automatix ,it has a solution for that
[03:02] <arso> lol
[03:03] <Pupeno> I configured my wireless access point to be totally open: no wep, no wpa, yet, I can't connect to it. Any ideas how to troubleshoot ?
[03:03] <Kr4t05> DjDarkman: Automatix sucks.
[03:03] <Tm_T> !automatix
[03:03] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:03] <Tm_T>  Use at your own risk
[03:04] <DjDarkman> Kr4t05: right it suxx ,but it`s script is good if you open it with a text editor and try to do it youreself
[03:08] <DjDarkman> is there a forum moderator here?
[03:09] <BKaj> automatix works ok if ya don't try to install too much at one time
[03:09] <BKaj> apokryphos howdy
[03:10] <DjDarkman> BKaj: I say the best thing is to open it`s script with a text editor and do those thing youreself ,that way you can even see what it does
[03:10] <apokryphos-> hi
[03:11] <BKaj> ok DjDarkman
[03:11] <BKaj> apokryphos, do use Xgl ?
[03:11] <apokryphos-> yes
[03:12] <BKaj> I'm trying to install it from Kororaa live cd , but my scrn freezes upon loading after booting in
[03:13] <apokryphos-> install it from the CD? What?
[03:13] <BKaj> prolly the ati driver ...the guys here say it's shit
[03:14] <BKaj> Kororaa live cd, http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-181203#download
[03:16] <apokryphos> ATI kind of sucks, yes
[03:16] <apokryphos> I still have no idea what you mean by install xgl from Kororaa live CD
[03:16] <apokryphos> !xgl
[03:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:17] <BKaj> the Korora site says my ati card driver ( fglrx ) is supposed to work
[03:17] <Pupeno> mmhh... I am having trouble finding my own access point and my neighbors', that is, in one scan I see one, then I see the other, then I see none for a couple of scans and this is driving me crazy. Maybe it is possible that something is causing a major interference around here ?
[03:27] <caribou7> Anyone know how to disable the X style copy and paste behavior (specifically where highlighting text with the mouse destroys the current clipboard contents)?
[03:28] <Pupeno> caribou7: here it doesn't destroy the ctrl-c/ctrl-v clipboard, they are two separate clipboards.
[03:30] <caribou7> Let me experiment a second, it was pasting URL's into Firefox that was the main problem...
[03:32] <Pupeno> caribou7: oh, maybe firefox is only accessing the X clipboard (and not the KDE one).
[03:35] <caribou7> No, it does work the way you said. But I found another annoyance regarding the numeric keypad...
[03:37] <caribou7> Why does pressing SHIFT+insert give you the number 0 (zero) rather than inserting text UNLESS you keep numlock on (and is there any way to change that)?
[03:38] <wredna_suka> hello
[03:39] <dj_baggio> wredna_suka: your nickname are very, very bad
[03:39] <wredna_suka> dj_baggio: why?
[03:39] <Pupeno> caribou7: depending on where the numlock is, shift and that key would be shift-insert or shift-0, two different 'keystrokes'. shift-0 prints 0... if you want it to paste, edit the shortcuts.
[03:40] <dj_baggio> wredna_suka: mam Ci qwa powiedzie dlaczego?:>
[03:48] <wredna_suka> dj_baggio: nie podskakuj
[03:49] <DjDarkman> how can I make the latest amarok for ubuntu work other engines than xine?
[03:49] <Russel> hiho
[03:49] <Russel> why is the twinkle version in ubuntu so old?
[03:49] <wredna_suka> DjDarkman: enable them at compilation?
[03:49] <Russel> 0.42 and the actual version is 0.81
[03:50] <DjDarkman> wredna_suka: I have the package ,I didn`t compile it
[03:50] <dj_baggio> hop, hop :)
[03:51] <wredna_suka> DjDarkman: which engines do you want to work with?
[03:51] <DjDarkman> gstreamer for example
[03:53] <wredna_suka> I don't know, I always compile Amarok
[03:54] <wredna_suka> there's a package "amarok-engines", have you tried it out?
[03:55] <wredna_suka> dj_baggio: nie podskakuj bo sufit gow przebijesz :P
[03:58] <no_plan> Hi
[03:59] <wredna_suka> no_plan: Hi
[03:59] <no_plan> I am trying to install kubuntu 6.06 on a new system (bare unformated hdd). I booted into the live version and started the installation. However, I want to use manual partitioning.
[03:59] <wredna_suka> no_plan: and what's the problem?
[04:00] <no_plan> When I start the partitioning tool, I can make new partitions and format them, however, I cannot assign any mountpoints or swap space in the next step. The drop down box for selection of partitions i sempty.
[04:00] <no_plan> When I klick on "next" it complains (of course) I have no swap space assigned.
[04:00] <no_plan> Is that a bug or do I simply need to RTFM?
[04:01] <no_plan> Automatic partitioning (kubuntu choses a two partition layout with a swap partition of unknown size in the end of the disk) works fine.
[04:01] <wredna_suka> sorry, i don't know, i didn't install desktop (that is live) version
[04:02] <toka> hi
[04:02] <no_plan> wredna_suka: Well, it is the only way to do it with 6.06. There is no way to install without the live version detour.
[04:02] <no_plan> wredna_suka: or is there?
[04:02] <wredna_suka> traditional installer didn't ever fail me though
[04:03] <toka> ich hab ein asus board mit dem realtek ALC850 chip..wie kann ich den SPDif aktivieren?
[04:03] <wredna_suka> i think there isn't, the only way is download alternate version
[04:03] <no_plan> wredna_suka: another full disk image?? ARGH!
[04:04] <no_plan> anybody here ever used the standard installer and successfully partitioned the harddisk manually?
[04:04] <wredna_suka> but i don't guarantee it helps :(
[04:04] <no_plan> toka: Vielleicht besser auf Englisch?
[04:05] <toka> no_plan: ok.danke
[04:05] <wredna_suka> ok, bye for now
[04:05] <wredna_suka> idzie burza, trza kompa wyczy
[04:06] <toka> How can I activate the SPDIF output? Realtek ALC850
[04:06] <Tommy2k4> when i boot up it tries to open sendmail even though ive apt-get remove sendmail, rm /etc/init.d/sendmail, update-rc.d sendmail remove
[04:07] <Tommy2k4> how can i stop it
[04:07] <dj_baggio> wredna_suka is curse in polish :)
[04:08] <Hotwired> hey, is there an on-line alternate for "deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main" as this produces an error
[04:10] <no_plan> toka: hmm, have you checked http://www.alsa-project.org/
[04:10] <toka> no_plan: not i haven't..thanks a lot
[04:13] <no_plan> toka: ALSA drivers are included in all 2.6.x kernels, including *buntu.
[04:19] <Jack1> hi guys
[04:19] <Jack1> who knows if the sony w800i or w700i work with kontact?
[04:20] <Jack1> in tuxmobile etc i didnt find them
[04:22] <GIGANTOR> alright, well i've asked in #wine, but nobody is answering
[04:22] <GIGANTOR> does anyone know if the .net framework works in Wine?
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> GIGANTOR: #winehq is what you want
[04:23] <GIGANTOR> ahh, ok
[04:23] <GIGANTOR> =)
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> GIGANTOR: However if its your application you should use mono
[04:23] <GIGANTOR> !mono
[04:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about mono - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:23] <GIGANTOR> ;\
[04:23] <GIGANTOR> i'll try that channel, thanks bro
[04:32] <grizzly> My apps keys doesn't work in konsole/Opera
[04:32] <grizzly> is it normal, or do I file a bug report. Confirm plz
[04:33] <grizzly> it works fine in kcontrol
[04:37] <Child4Christ> i installed apache2, php5, php5mysql and mysql-server, i need to host forums and i dont know about ftp servers, anyone know one thats good?
[04:38] <h3sp4wn> Child4Christ: Don't use phpbb (The code is horrible and it has many security problems)
[04:38] <Tommy2k4> grizzly, which keys dont work
[04:38] <Child4Christ> its Simple Machines
[04:39] <Child4Christ> testing the servers for now but i need to get it all sorted before tuesday
[04:39] <grizzly> Tommy2k4: the [apps]  keys . the key sto the right of the right alt key.
[04:40] <Child4Christ> all works fine but it wants to know ftp details, no ftp server so im after one with good documentation i can apt-get
[04:40] <grizzly> sry, its to the right of the right win key ( left of the right ctrl key)
[04:40] <KaiHanari> Child4Christ,  proftpd, its documented in a howto on the forums
[04:40] <wily_> i try kismet as wireless detector
[04:40] <Child4Christ> thx :)
[04:40] <KaiHanari> i'll find the link
[04:40] <wily_> but it is too hard ti use
[04:40] <wily_> for me
[04:41] <wily_> anyone knows something most simple
[04:41] <wily_> ?
[04:41] <h3sp4wn> wily_: For cracking into other peoples networks ?
[04:41] <wily_> no
[04:41] <h3sp4wn> wily_: You shouldn't ask about stuff like that in here
[04:41] <wily_> i need tio try my wireless resistence
[04:42] <wily_> i've made a wireless
[04:42] <h3sp4wn> If you are using wep you have none
[04:42] <wily_> and i want to test it
[04:43] <KaiHanari> Child4Christ, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588&highlight=howto+proftpd     theres also a graphical tool for administrating it i hear, just gimmie a sec on that
[04:44] <Child4Christ> ty KaiHanari :)
[04:45] <KaiHanari> Child4Christ, if you just apt-get install gproftpd     it will install all you need, i dont know how easy gproftpd is to use though, downloading it now to find out for you...
[04:45] <stanks> hi
[04:46] <Child4Christ> ty KaiHanari appreciate your help :)
[04:47] <KaiHanari> no prob Child4Christ , any time
[04:47] <Child4Christ> random but why do i get this? (gproftpd:28174): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:48] <arso> hmm, when i try to open froen bubble (game_ it shows its loading then closses. was working fine earlier
[04:48] <KaiHanari> Child4Christ, did you use sudo to run gproftpd? or did you have a root login going to use it?
[04:49] <Child4Christ> root login
[04:49] <KaiHanari> Child4Christ, open a new terminal as your own user, and use sudo
[04:49] <KaiHanari> unless your only logged in by SSH
[04:49] <Child4Christ> worked, ty :)
[04:51] <Child4Christ> in terms of security, should i have ftp usrs (people i host for) have a /home/dir or is it ok to leave them in /var/www?
[04:52] <centyx> Child4Christ: i would chroot them to whatever dir they have access to
[04:53] <Child4Christ> atm no one has it, tuesday they will though
[04:53] <h3sp4wn> Child4Christ: If it is going to be externally accessible I would build a chrooted apache from source
[04:54] <Child4Christ> is it possible to just alter the apache .conf file to add a vhost for them to direct them to a /home/hosted/www/dir for the forums they want?
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> I would want it completely seperate from the host sytem
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> system
[04:56] <Child4Christ> i have another 2 servers but my desktops the highest spec (not much but still) but its just like 2 forums, not publically hosting, mine and my gfs forums are the only ones being hosted
[04:57] <centyx> h3sp4wn: what do you think about chrooting via mod_security?
[04:58] <centyx> i haven't run chrooted apache since I quit using openbsd
[05:01] <h3sp4wn> centyx: If I ever had any externally accessible server I would run just what is absolutely necessary (from in jail if I was using bsd) and build it from source with just what I needed
[05:02] <h3sp4wn> centyx: I don't trust anything that someone can attempt to break into 24/7 with anything else (and I don't like running firewalls on the server)
[05:02] <ChefWill> anyone know of an applet for panels that will show current online (gaim/kopete) buddies?
[05:05] <Tommy2k4> when i boot up it tries to open sendmail even though ive apt-get remove sendmail, rm /etc/init.d/sendmail, update-rc.d sendmail remove
[05:05] <Tommy2k4> how can i stop it
[05:05] <Tommy2k4> it adds like a minute to bootup time
[05:08] <user-land> Hello, what do you use to configure a bluetooth connection on Kubuntu ?
[05:09] <GIGANTOR> user-land: Goto "System Settings" on the Kmenu
[05:09] <GIGANTOR> you'll see a BlueTooth icon
[05:10] <user-land> gigantor, i still have the gnome panel from Ubuntu instead of the Kmenu, do you know how to change that ? i just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu and rebooted into kde ...
[05:11] <Jazon> hi - any gimp users here?
[05:11] <GIGANTOR> did you uninstall the gnome-desktop as well?
[05:12] <hub> this time i"m the real Hub
[05:13] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[05:13] <user-land> you mean ubuntu-desktop, gigantor ?
[05:13] <GIGANTOR> yeah, sorry
[05:13] <user-land> i removed it now.
[05:13] <GIGANTOR> reboot and give it a whirl
[05:13] <user-land> thanks.
[05:13] <hub> is there any firefox -> konqueror migration tool for Kubuntu?
[05:14] <GIGANTOR> come tell us if it works
[05:14] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[05:14] <GIGANTOR> so i'll know if i know what i'm doing or not, lol
[05:14] <user-land> sure, see you.
[05:14] <GIGANTOR> in theory that's probably it though
[05:15] <GIGANTOR> Hub- i'm not real sure, maybe someone knows
[05:15] <GIGANTOR> i've never heard of one though
[05:16] <Pupeno> hub: what do you need to migrate, the bookmarks ?
[05:16] <hub> and password
[05:16] <hub> bookmark should be easy
[05:16] <Pupeno> hub: o, those... I don't think so.
[05:16] <hub> password probably less
[05:16] <GIGANTOR> yeah, i just looked through the bookmarks, thats no problem
[05:16] <hub> looks like i"m boned
[05:16] <hub> or doomed to write it
[05:17] <hub> like the f-spot -> digikam
[05:17] <GIGANTOR> how many pw's do you have?  =S
[05:17] <GIGANTOR> or did you forget one, lol
[05:17] <GIGANTOR> if so i can help with that
[05:19] <Tommy2k4> when i boot up it tries to open sendmail even though ive apt-get remove sendmail, rm /etc/init.d/sendmail, update-rc.d sendmail remove
[05:19] <Tommy2k4> how can i stop it
[05:19] <GIGANTOR> wb user-land
[05:19] <NetSKaVeN> I need someone try to access http://www.alesti.org with Konqueror 3.5.3
[05:19] <hub> GIGANTOR: I have enough password stored on several machines
[05:19] <user-land> thanks, gigantor. ubuntu-desktop is an empty meta-package, removing it does not change anything immediatly ...
[05:20] <hub> GIGANTOR: but that is not the point
[05:20] <Pupeno> user-land: unless you use aptitude, which is the nice thing about aptitude :)
[05:20] <GIGANTOR> so it didn't do anything... hmm
[05:20] <GIGANTOR> see if you can run command "kcontrol"
[05:21] <user-land> yes, it opens the KDE control panel :-)
[05:21] <GIGANTOR> then go into Internet and Network
[05:21] <GIGANTOR> and you'll see Bluetooth
[05:21] <Pupeno> NetSKaVeN: since Kubuntu comes with Konqueror 3.5.2, you may want to ask somewhere else, like #kde
[05:22] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[05:22] <NetSKaVeN> Pupeno: it is a kubuntu packages problem, other KDE 3.5.3 are working ok
[05:22] <Pupeno> NetSKaVeN: oh! sorry.
[05:23] <NetSKaVeN> but I need someone trying it so I can determinate if it's my problem or kubuntu problem
[05:23] <abattoir> NetSKaVeN: works for me
[05:24] <abattoir> NetSKaVeN: try changing browser id
[05:24] <GIGANTOR> abattoir, have you seen aegean lately?
[05:24] <||Trayer||> Can anyone help me out? I'm trying to install Unreal Tournament 2004, And it is a ".sh" file.  I know this is a shell script, just not sure how to run it.
[05:24] <NetSKaVeN> abattoir: I will try, thanks
[05:24] <abattoir> !seen aegeanlinux
[05:24] <ubotu> I last saw aegeanlinux (n=tim@202.172.121.122) 4h 34m 18s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[05:24] <GIGANTOR> not the linux version, teh dooder
[05:24] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: ^^^^^ :)
[05:24] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[05:24] <GIGANTOR> oh ok
[05:24] <GIGANTOR> lol
[05:25] <||Trayer||> And it is titled, "Linux-Installer".
[05:25] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[05:25] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: want to run it as root?
[05:25] <user-land> thanks, gigantor.
[05:25] <GIGANTOR> woot woot, your connection works?
[05:25] <user-land> how do i set a bluetooth password ?
[05:25] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: 'sudo sh ./filename.sh'
[05:26] <||Trayer||> abattoir: Root is good
[05:26] <GIGANTOR> lemme look
[05:26] <||Trayer||> Thanks abbatoir
[05:26] <GIGANTOR> although i'm not sure i can get that far without any actual bluetooth periphs
[05:26] <||Trayer||> or however you spell it : P
[05:26] <abattoir> user-land: /etc/bluetooth/pin
[05:27] <NetSKaVeN> abattoir: not working here :-mm
[05:27] <user-land> abattoir:/etc/bluetooth/pin
[05:27] <user-land> command not found.
[05:28] <||Trayer||> Is there a way to make so I don't have to type sudo before every command? I'm not really used to doing it and I forget alot
[05:28] <abattoir> user-land: its a file, you need to edit it as root and put the pin in
[05:28] <user-land> ah, thanks.
[05:29] <||Trayer||> How does one move into a Mounted cd in the terminal?
[05:30] <Tommy2k4> how can i get rid of every trace of sendmail and stop it trying to open on bootup (i already uninstalled it but it still tries to open and adds over a minute to bootup time)
[05:30] <abattoir> NetSKaVeN: sorry, i dont know what exactly should load.... however, Konq seems to think there is a Javascript error
[05:31] <||Trayer||> How do I move into a mounted CD drive?
[05:31] <NetSKaVeN> abattoir: do you see rss feed reader?
[05:31] <Tommy2k4> /media/cdrom
[05:31] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: in a terminal?
[05:31] <Skaman_> hi guys can anybody help me?
[05:31] <Skaman_> i'm trying to install wpa supplicant
[05:31] <||Trayer||> Yep, Tommy2k4 answered it thanks tommy ^,^
[05:32] <Skaman_> but when i give the "make" cmd i have this error: "make: *** No rule to make target `config.o', needed by `wpa_supplicant'.  Stop"
[05:32] <abattoir> NetSKaVeN: I dont thinks so... there is nothing below the link for the fora
[05:32] <abattoir> Skaman_: did you run './conigure' first?
[05:32] <abattoir> *configure
[05:32] <NetSKaVeN> abattoir: thanks for the help  ;)
[05:33] <user-land> abattoir, the password is there, but connecting with it still fails. do i need to run something ?
[05:33] <abattoir> NetSKaVeN: np, sorry, could figure out what exactly is the problem though....
[05:33] <abattoir> user-land: what device are you connecting with?
[05:33] <||Trayer||> How do I mount and unmount the cd? eject and put it back in?
[05:33] <user-land> cell phone.
[05:34] <abattoir> user-land: type bluetooth:/ in konqueror
[05:34] <user-land> yes, i see the phone there :-)
[05:35] <Skaman_> @abattoir ops
[05:35] <Skaman_> i've understood
[05:35] <abattoir> Skaman_: what was that for?
[05:35] <||Trayer||> How do I eject a cd? I need to insert CD 2, but, the front loading button wont work
[05:35] <abattoir> user-land: if you click on it does it ask you for your pin?
[05:36] <abattoir> user-land: does it make an attempt to pair ?
[05:36] <||Trayer||> When I go to "unmount" it shows an error
[05:37] <user-land> no, when i click on it in konqueror, a lot of services get listed.
[05:37] <||Trayer||> "Device is busy"
[05:37] <user-land> but it does not attempt to pair.
[05:37] <abattoir> user-land: which service do you want to use?
[05:38] <user-land> i would like to copy files from it ...
[05:38] <abattoir> user-land: ok, long time since i did this, so let me do it with you... :)
[05:38] <GIGANTOR> Trayer- reboot  ;P
[05:38] <GIGANTOR> well, do you have any windows open for the CD?
[05:39] <GIGANTOR> might close those then try to unmount it
[05:39] <||Trayer||> kk
[05:40] <user-land> nice, abattoir. i tried OBEX file transfer, so it attempted to pair, but it failed after i gave it the pin.
[05:40] <abattoir> user-land: ok, this is what i do, mark all the files on your phone, send it via bluetooth to your pc...
[05:40] <abattoir> you get the KDE Bluetooth Framework Incoming File transfer dialog
[05:40] <abhi> today i have installed the crossover office. after the reboot when i give my password at login screen, once again login screen comes asking for password. (my password is correct).
[05:41] <abattoir> choose where you want to save the file and save it
[05:41] <GIGANTOR> abhi- does the login screen look any different than usual?
[05:41] <user-land> abattoir, i do not get a listing of the files of the phone.
[05:42] <abattoir> user-land: you want to transfer the files *from* the phone right?
[05:42] <abhi> no.
[05:42] <user-land> i think i better go buy a data cable ...
[05:42] <||Trayer||> "unmount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy (same thing next line) please check that the disk is entered correctly."  That's the error I'm getting, in the installation it says clearly dont start unless you can mount and unmount CD images,
[05:42] <user-land> yes.
[05:43] <abhi> gigantor: no.
[05:43] <abattoir> user-land: your phone doesnt show you those files?
[05:43] <user-land> ah, i see.
[05:43] <GIGANTOR> abhi- hmm..
[05:43] <GIGANTOR> thinking
[05:43] <||Trayer||> So, how can one un-mount a "Busy" cd?
[05:44] <bsanford> Can you connect to MSOutlook Workgroup share with Kontact?
[05:44] <abattoir> user-land: if i want to access a particular service that my phone offers(like bluetooth serial port for eg.) I click on each service... and then i'm asked for the passcode... then pairing takes place
[05:44] <abattoir> user-land: you might also want to chech the latest SVN version of kmobiletools
[05:45] <abattoir> user-land: it has a bluetooth pairing wizard which might simplify things :)
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: Have you ever messed with prelinking kde ?
[05:45] <GIGANTOR> abhi- wait until abattoir gets finished, he might could help further.  Unless someone else wants to chime in
[05:46] <BirthdayHobbsee> h3sp4wn: i didnt find much difference, if any
[05:46] <user-land> great, abattoir. sending from the phone is working :-)
[05:46] <GIGANTOR> abattoir ftw  ;P
[05:46] <user-land> but i don't know where the file is on my pc now.
[05:47] <h3sp4wn> BirthdayHobbsee: I didn't notice much difference either but I am not 100% sure I was doing it right
[05:47] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: no, always used the 'stock' stuff... havent noticed KDE being slow ;)
[05:47] <abhi> gigantor : did you get some thing about my problem?
[05:47] <abattoir> abhi: wait i'll read up.
[05:47] <GIGANTOR> lemme google a bit
[05:47] <abhi> ok.
[05:47] <h3sp4wn> BirthdayHobbsee: happy birthday btw
[05:48] <BirthdayHobbsee> ty :)
[05:48] <abattoir> abhi: you are pretty sure its due to crossover office? had any other side effects?
[05:48] <user-land> does someone know how to replace the gnome panel with a kmenu taskbar ?
[05:48] <abattoir> abhi: also, how long does it take... I mean, as soon as you enter your password, it gives you the screen back or does it take some time?
[05:49] <abattoir> user-land: in gnome?
[05:49] <||Trayer||> Alright, it's the konsole that's holding the installer that's claiming it's busy.  So, I'm assuming if I remotly type in the thing it'll work.  How does "sudo sh ./media/cdrom/linux-installer.sh" work? Would it work?
[05:49] <user-land> in kde, abattoir. i just installed kubuntu-desktop and rebooted into kde.
[05:49] <abhi> abattoir: i thing it might be for crossover office. because before it was installed, kubuntu working fine.
[05:49] <abattoir> user-land: kde has a gnome-panel ? :S
[05:50] <abattoir> user-land: are you sure?
[05:50] <abattoir> user-land: try 'killall kicker && kicker'
[05:50] <||Trayer||> How can I sh a sh file without going into it's directory?
[05:50] <abhi> abattoir:yes instantly give the login screen.
[05:50] <abattoir> see if you get the 'gnome-panel' back
[05:51] <user-land> kicker: no process killed
[05:51] <||Trayer||>  How do I run a SH file without going into its directory through command line?
[05:51] <abattoir> user-land: killall gnome-panel ?
[05:51] <abhi> abattoir:no one black screen comes in between them
[05:51] <h3sp4wn> ||Trayer||: sh /path/to/blah.sh
[05:52] <user-land> the panel disappeared and came back, abattoir.
[05:52] <user-land> so am i still in gnome, right ?
[05:52] <||Trayer||> %c4 h3sp4wn: do I need to put a ./ in there anywhere?
[05:52] <abattoir> abhi: then, it might not be a problem w/ X or KDE... the latter, actually
[05:52] <abattoir> user-land: i suspect so
[05:52] <Tommy2k4> how can i get rid of every trace of sendmail and stop it trying to open on bootup (i already uninstalled it but it still tries to open and adds over a minute to bootup time)
[05:52] <abattoir> abhi: you are sure about the password ?
[05:52] <user-land> trying a reboot then :-)
[05:52] <abhi> abattoir: yes.
[05:53] <abattoir> user-land: when you login...
[05:53] <abattoir> user-land: change session to KDE
[05:53] <abattoir> in the login screen
[05:53] <abattoir> abhi: ok, wait up
[05:53] <abhi> ok
[05:53] <abattoir> abhi: you remember changing any X or KDE settings?
[05:53] <abhi> no
[05:54] <abhi> i changed the rosolution only
[05:54] <abattoir> abhi: hmm, X does startup though, so is a KDE issue.... i guess
[05:54] <abattoir> abhi: before this stopped working?
[05:54] <abattoir> or long ago?
[05:54] <abhi> not at all
[05:54] <abattoir> abhi: when did you change the resolution?
[05:55] <abhi> before one  or two boots.
[05:55] <abattoir> abhi:  and then you logged into KDE w/ the new resolution?
[05:55] <abhi> yes
[05:57] <abattoir> abhi: ok, then get out of KDM... there must be an option in the menu... something like 'Terminal'
[05:57] <abhi> I thing yes . or alt+f1
[05:57] <abattoir> abhi: also press 'Ctrl+Alt+F1'
[05:57] <abattoir> aah ok
[05:57] <abattoir> but kill KDM
[05:57] <abhi> yes yes
[05:58] <ubuntu> Hi all
[05:58] <abhi> how
[05:58] <abattoir> abhi:  there must be an option in the menu
[05:58] <abattoir> abhi: i dont remember it exactly
[05:58] <ubuntu> how do i install grub, there was an error the first time i was installing it
[05:58] <abhi> for what?
[05:58] <ubuntu> i want to install it to the MBR
[05:58] <abattoir> abhi: for switching to a terminal
[05:59] <abhi> abattoir: yes
[05:59] <abattoir> abhi: or through tty0(Ctrl+Alt+F1) type 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:59] <abattoir> abhi: wait, i'll confirm the command
[05:59] <abhi> ok
[05:59] <abattoir> abhi: yup, that's right
[05:59] <abattoir> execute that
[06:00] <abattoir> that should kill kdm...
[06:00] <ubuntu> if you stop kdm won't it kill the x server and whatever chat client abhi is using?
[06:00] <abattoir> ubuntu: i think he is on another computer
[06:00] <abattoir> he cant even get into KDe
[06:01] <user-land> you were right of course, abattoir, thank you.
[06:01] <abattoir> ubuntu: ok, now to your problem, you have everything intstalled into the HD?
[06:01] <ubuntu> yea that would make sense
[06:01] <abhi> abattoir: what should I do after killing kdm?
[06:01] <user-land> abattoir, you like meat ? :-)
[06:01] <ubuntu> yea i installed it to the HD the first time and the installer crashed giving an error about grub
[06:01] <abattoir> user-land: no, i'm a vegetarian
[06:01] <abattoir> user-land: the name is misleading, yes :)
[06:02] <user-land> hey, what a contrast to your name then :-)
[06:02] <abattoir> abhi: first go through the logs
[06:02] <GIGANTOR> Tommy- did you get an answer?
[06:02] <abattoir> abhi: /var/log ...
[06:02] <abhi> ok
[06:02] <abattoir> abhi: see if you can find something useful
[06:02] <abattoir> 'cat /var/log'
[06:03] <abattoir> ubuntu: you chose an XFS formatted partition as the root one?
[06:03] <ubuntu> yea and a 100mb /boot partition
[06:03] <abhi> ok I am going to try this. after that I will come back. thanks abattoir.
[06:03] <abattoir> abhi: ok
[06:03] <||Trayer||> This is gunna sound stupid, but, how do I mount a CD?
[06:03] <abattoir> ubuntu: grub and xfs dont like living together...
[06:04] <abattoir> ubuntu: its a known bug 47848
[06:04] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: Normally you just put it in and it comes up on the Desktop
[06:04] <abattoir> ubuntu: choose another filesystem type, like reiserfs
[06:04] <||Trayer||> DaSkreech: It does, but then it disappears a few seconds later
[06:04] <abattoir> ubuntu: so you'd have to reinstall
[06:04] <BKaj> what's the delete cmd in konsol ?
[06:04] <ubuntu> hda: windows xp 20GB, /boot 100bm ext3, 50gb for /, 250mb for swap
[06:04] <abattoir> ubuntu:  <Ubug2> Malone bug 47848 in ubiquity "should warn at partitioning stage if /boot is on XFS" [Medium,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/47848
[06:05] <||Trayer||> Is there any way to mount it yourself?
[06:05] <knapper> Help. When I boot up I no longer get to KDM, I just have a text login. I tried reinstalling KDM, but that didn't fix it.
[06:05] <ubuntu> the root partition is xfs but the /boot partition is EXT3
[06:05] <abattoir> ubuntu: oh so /boot is not XFS?
[06:05] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: Strange :) does it turn up in /media
[06:05] <ubuntu>  /boot is ext3
[06:05] <Cornellius> Ubuntu: How many RAM you have ?
[06:05] <abattoir> ubuntu: do you know what the error in the logs is?
[06:05] <BKaj> !Konsole commands
[06:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about Konsole commands - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:05] <ubuntu> 1 GB 256MB
[06:05] <||Trayer||> DaSkreech: I'm seeing cdrom0, and cdrom as a shortcut
[06:06] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||:  Try clicking on cdrom?
[06:06] <||Trayer||>  they are BOTH appearing empty
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Or better right click and see if you get a mount option
[06:06] <ubuntu> abattoir: where is the log
[06:06] <DaSkreech> I assume then that this is a non empty CD :)
[06:06] <teelittle> BKaj: delete files with "rm"
[06:06] <||Trayer||> Yep, it's installation disk two of unreal tournament
[06:07] <BKaj> thx teelittle
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Hmm I recall that having a bug
[06:07] <ubuntu> i can't access any of the hard disks in system:// all i get is: mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:07] <||Trayer||> it shows up on desktop for a split second
[06:07] <||Trayer||> then disapears
[06:08] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: It's probably not in the fstab then
[06:08] <abattoir> ubuntu: try 'sudo mkdir /media/hda1' and then 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1'
[06:08] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: Other Cds Mount ok?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> abattoir: eek!
[06:08] <abattoir> DaSkreech: he's on the livecd
[06:08] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Ok :)
[06:08] <||Trayer||>  DaSkreech: The first one did, and my music one did.  I think it might just be my drive, I'll put it in my other one
[06:09] <knapper> Help. When I boot up I no longer get to KDM, I just have a text login. I tried reinstalling KDM, but that didn't fix it.
[06:09] <ubuntu> abattoir: that worked
[06:09] <||Trayer||>  Problem solved.  My drive must be dead
[06:09] <abattoir> ubuntu: cool :)
[06:09] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: No I'm actually pretty sure I recall a bug with the UT Cdsand Linux
[06:09] <DaSkreech>  I think they fixed the DVD
[06:09] <||Trayer||> Ah, I still have the CD versions
[06:09] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: You can mount it explictly if you like
[06:09] <||Trayer||> So, I think that it just was that CD drive for THAT program, other ones work in there
[06:10] <abattoir> ubuntu: paste the contents of /var/installer/syslong in pastebin
[06:10] <abattoir> !pastebin > ubuntu
[06:10] <||Trayer||> it worked, I had to put it in my second cd drive
[06:10] <ubuntu> ok
[06:10] <||Trayer||> I asked this yesterday but had no luck, how does one change their static IP adress on their network in kubuntu
[06:11] <knapper> Anyone?
[06:11] <abattoir> user-land: was it the KDE-login thing that you told me worked?
[06:11] <KaiserSuse> ||Trayer||: with the System Settings
[06:11] <teelittle> ||Trayer||: some /etc/... files?
[06:11] <KaiserSuse> ||Trayer||: or /etc/network/interfaces
[06:12] <||Trayer||>  KaiserSuse: Where in the system settings, I took a quick look and couldn't find anything?
[06:12] <abattoir> knapper: a root login?
[06:12] <teelittle> knapper: hmmm, did you check your startup skripts? => /etc/init.d/...
[06:13] <jknotzke> Hi everyone
[06:13] <KaiserSuse> System Settings -> Network Settings, click Administrator Mode
[06:13] <jknotzke> anyone here gotten gnucash and aqbanking to work ?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: Ping ok It was Ut2003
[06:13] <jknotzke> or at least compile..
[06:13] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: It's right on the k Menu
[06:14] <knapper> teelittle, I see kdm in there. Is there something I should look for?
[06:14] <ubuntu>  /var/installer/syslong is not there. there is no installer folder
[06:14] <abattoir> ubuntu: oops, my mistake, /var/log/installer/syslog
[06:15] <knapper> teelittle: When I boot up it doesn't act like it even tries to start KDM, just goes to text login. Maybe it isn't being initialized.
[06:15] <ubuntu> The file or folder file:///var/log/installer/ does not exist.
[06:15] <ubuntu> not there either, i checked
[06:15] <ubuntu> i think the installer crashed right after it gave the error
[06:15] <abhi> abattoir: nothing found in log
[06:15] <abattoir> ubuntu: you did the installation process now ?
[06:15] <abattoir> ubuntu: or you restarted?
[06:16] <abattoir> abhi: try startkde from the terminal then
[06:16] <abattoir> abhi: are you using gnome/windows now ?
[06:16] <rascal999> Where can I get an exe emulator?
[06:16] <ubuntu> yea i did, i got to the part where grub was installing, then it gave a write error and crashed
[06:16] <abattoir> the latter i suspect ;)
[06:16] <abhi> i try kdm.
[06:16] <abhi> windows
[06:16] <abattoir> ubuntu: :( , we need to see the log, to see what went wrong, where it went wrong...
[06:17] <abattoir> ubuntu: would there be a problem re-installing?
[06:17] <abattoir> abhi: what happened?
[06:17] <ubuntu> nope
[06:17] <abhi> same problem
[06:17] <abattoir> ubuntu: i'd recommend avoiding XFS... be safe, use reiserfs
[06:18] <abattoir> ubuntu: then you dont need to have a separate /boot partition :)
[06:18] <will_> DAMNIT on the site to get the patch for UT2004 I said I was one year old by accident = \
[06:18] <will_> Now it's saved in
[06:18] <ubuntu> ok why reiserfs, is it better than ext3?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> !wine > rasc
[06:19] <abattoir> abhi: so X starts w/o any error at all... you were messing around w/ XGL/Compiz by any chance?
[06:19] <SeanTater_> ubuntu reiserfs us fantastic with small files
[06:19] <abattoir> abhi: ok, you are the crossover office guy... right? :P
[06:19] <abhi> no no.
[06:19] <abhi> just to run some windows game.
[06:20] <ubuntu> SeanTater_: Ok i'll give that ago, thanks
[06:20] <GIGANTOR> i thought he said crossover as well
[06:20] <abattoir> abhi: can you try installing GDM ?
[06:20] <abattoir> abhi: and see if that works?
[06:20] <SeanTater_> ubuntu: but it shows no improvement (for me) otherwise
[06:20] <GIGANTOR> apt-get install macintosh
[06:20] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[06:20] <abhi> abattoir:sudo: apt-get install gdm.
[06:20] <GIGANTOR> oh wai-  no games.
[06:20] <abattoir> abhi: 'sudo apt-get install gdm' yes :)
[06:21] <abhi> yes yes.
[06:21] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer|: I guess you are ||Trayer|| as well :)
[06:21] <GIGANTOR> get to it skippy
[06:21] <Tommy2k4> !pastebin
[06:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:21] <||Trayer|>  Oops = \, I need to get a steady nick name
[06:21] <abhi> going for it. thanks abattoir.
[06:21] <||Trayer|> Yeah, I have another window open, somewhere >_>;
[06:22] <abattoir> abhi: since, there is no specific error message/scenario, i cant say something specific either, we can only try... :)
[06:23] <iqon> all of a sudden (after a reboot) my system fonts are huge...could the font dpi have changed, is there a way to set that?
[06:23] <abattoir> iqon: you 'upgraded' or dist-upgraded?
[06:24] <iqon> dist-upgraded a few months ago
[06:24] <iqon> i was playing with fireglcontrolpanel, i'm not sure if that was the culprit or not
[06:24] <abattoir> iqon: you could probably change in kcontrol
[06:24] <abattoir> iqon: oh, i have no idea about that
[06:25] <abattoir> iqon: i'd suggest playing around w/ the Fonts section in Kcontrol
[06:25] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: Found it?
[06:26] <iqon> abattoir: all of my font's are set the same as they used to be, but they are still huge...
[06:26] <iqon> abattoir: i can't seem to find a dpi setting in kcontrol
[06:27] <abattoir> iqon: well, am not sure, try reducing the size if you want, or see fireglcontrolpanel ;)
[06:28] <teelittle> Hi, does anybody know about X.org input device 168?
[06:28] <teelittle> every X app print out warnings that this device couldn't be found upon startup...
[06:28] <Tommy2k4> teelittle, comment out the 3 wacom devices in xorg.conf and the 3 references to them at the bottom of the file aswell
[06:29] <teelittle> Tommy2k4: wow, I was looking for such a precise answer (and had in mind that it was something about unusual devices...)
[06:30] <Tommy2k4> np
[06:30] <Tommy2k4> had the same problem for ages myself
[06:31] <abattoir> hmmm... the lull before the storm... :P
[06:33] <Hawkwind> teelittle: I've documented the fix here on my forums:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[06:33] <abattoir> Hawkwind: you have to register to view? :(
[06:33] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Yeah.  I'm going to fix that a bit later today
[06:34] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I just switched forum apps and it did that to me.  I haven't gotten around to fixing it
[06:34] <abattoir> oh, cool :)
[06:34] (abattoir/#kubuntu) i was wondering why there hadnt been a split today
[06:34] (ubuntu/#kubuntu) wow
[06:35] (abattoir/#kubuntu) Hawkwind: hehe, sure :)
[06:35] (ubuntu/#kubuntu) how come so many are joining?
[06:35] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: Net split
[06:35] <ubuntu> Hawkwind: and that means???
[06:35] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: google.com and type    define:netsplit
[06:36] <ubuntu> Hawkwind: does that mean freenode switched us to a different node?
[06:36] <Hawkwind> No
[06:37] <ubuntu> the node restarted?
[06:37] <ubuntu>  crashed?
[06:37] <Tommy2k4> there was a break in the link between 2 nodes
[06:37] <Tommy2k4> well, between 1 node and the rest of the network i think
[06:37] <ubuntu> oh
[06:41] <ubuntu> Netsplit? again?
[06:42] <abattoir> well, i was disconnected, so must have been my server
[06:42] <ubuntu> this is cool
[06:42] <Skaman> hey guys strange thing happens...i'm trying to let my d-link usb wifi card work...well it's working and connected..i can ping my router and my other pc but i can't access the net....
[06:42] <abattoir> ubuntu: hehe
[06:43] <abattoir> Skaman: i think it'd be best to wait for this to settle
[06:43] <abattoir> Skaman: try 'sudo ifup ethX' where ethX is your interface
[06:43] <Skaman> abattoir: i had to set a linux driver and wifi works..even with wpa-psk
[06:44] <ubuntu> can your other PC connect to the internet?
[06:44] <Skaman> yes
[06:44] <ubuntu> oh wait stupid question
[06:44] <Skaman> and i can oping em
[06:44] <abattoir> Skaman: oh, so it doesnt work *only* with your router?
[06:45] <Skaman> abattoir: i can ping my router and access to it, i can ping and connect to my other pcs but can't access to the network
[06:45] <abattoir> Skaman: has wifi worked elsewhere?
[06:45] <abattoir> Skaman: did you try ifup ?
[06:45] <Skaman> yes i have 5 pcs
[06:45] <Skaman> all connected
[06:45] <Skaman> even this one
[06:46] <abattoir> Skaman: no, i mean, in linux, have you tried connecting to another network using your card?
[06:46] <abattoir> what about ifup?
[06:46] <mimmu> is this some cind of comp chat?? :D
[06:46] <abattoir> Skaman: or is it the first time you are trying wifi... in linux ?
[06:46] <Skaman> i was connected be4 when wpa was off
[06:47] <timbim> i need help setting up kubuntu
[06:47] <Skaman> is the first time!
[06:47] <abattoir> Skaman: ok, did you try ifup?
[06:47] <timbim> im using a dell e1405 and everytime it gets to x-server it just shows to white rectangles then it flashes back to to the install logo and hangs
[06:47] <abattoir> timbim: this is with the livecd?
[06:47] <timbim> both
[06:48] <timbim> i actually installed it with alternate cd
[06:48] <timbim> grub and everythng works fine
[06:48] <abattoir> timbim: if it is the livecd, try booting in the 'safe' mode thing...
[06:48] <timbim> then when i get to the load kubuntu once it get to x-server or w/e it just flashes i see two white pixels and it wont work
[06:48] <abattoir> oh, there seems to be a big lag
[06:48] <timbim> i think ive tried that
[06:49] <Skaman> abattoir i tried : tells me: Ignoring unknown interface rausb0=rausb0
[06:49] <abattoir> timbim: what video card?
[06:49] <iqon> when using kcontrol -> "GTK styles and fonts" to change "GTK Fonts" my changes aren't being saved, any idea what could cause this?
[06:49] <timbim>  found something on the internete about typing install debian-installer/framebuffer=false
[06:49] <timbim> but i dont know where to type that
[06:49] <timbim> it says type at book
[06:49] <abattoir> Skaman: ok, open up /etc/network/interfaces
[06:50] <abattoir> timbim: boot ?
[06:50] <timbim> whre is boot on the live cid
[06:50] <Skaman> abattoir ok
[06:50] <timbim> it jus says start or install kubuntu or start in safe mode
[06:50] <timbim> but i dont c anywer to type that command in
[06:51] <ronald> holas
[06:51] <abattoir> timbim: there is an option in the initial boot menu... where you can pass boot parameters
[06:51] <Skaman> ok i'm there abattoir
[06:51] <abattoir> one of the F keys, iirc
[06:51] <abattoir> Skaman: just a sec
[06:51] <timbim> when i hit f6
[06:51] <Skaman> ;)
[06:51] <timbim> boot comes upp, but there is already stuff there
[06:51] <ubuntu> abattoir: there is no reiserfs in the list
[06:51] <timbim> folowwed --
[06:52] <timbim> so do i just type install debian-installer/framebuffer=false after those dahses
[06:52] <abattoir> Skaman: could you please pastebin it ?
[06:52] <abattoir> !pastebin
[06:52] <timbim> cuz ive tried it and it doesnt seem to work
[06:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:52] <abattoir> is ubotu here?
[06:52] <abattoir> aah cool
[06:52] <Skaman> abattoir ok
[06:52] <Skaman> just a sec
[06:52] <abattoir> timbim: i dont know, if wherever you read it says that, it might be worth trying out
[06:52] <||Trayer||> Can anyone help? I'm installing the Ut2k4 patch, and you just extract a bunch of files to the /usr/local/games/ut2004 folder, but in ark it says cannot extract to that folder
[06:52] <abattoir> ubuntu: hmm there isnt?
[06:53] <timbim> i just dont know where to type that command
[06:53] <timbim> there is already stuff in boot
[06:53] <timbim> and i dont know if just type it after or what
[06:53] <ubuntu> abattoir: not there, i remeber you had to mess with the options in breezy to get it as an option
[06:53] <||Trayer||> dont have permission or something
[06:54] <timbim> nvm that safe graphics thng worked
[06:54] <timbim> thanks
[06:54] <iqon> after playing with qtcontrol and fireglcontrolpanel my fonts became HUGE, any idea what i could have done - or what i can do to fix it?
[06:54] <_marshall> what is firegl?
[06:54] <abattoir> ubuntu: yes, now i remember, it wasnt there... :( i did it manually... sorry, i forgot
[06:54] <iqon> er qtcontrol -> qtconfig
[06:55] <Skaman> abattoir: http://rafb.net/paste/results/L7Jwjm74.html
[06:55] <abattoir> ubuntu: you want to do it manually?
[06:55] <iqon> an ati driver control panel
[06:56] <abattoir> Skaman: you cant edit the pastes there? :(
[06:56] <abattoir> Skaman: ok, nvm, type what i say into the file
[06:56] <ubuntu> abattoir: might as well
[06:56] <abattoir> Skaman: your interface is ath0 ?
[06:57] <Skaman> us rausb0
[06:57] <abattoir> ubuntu: ok, you have done the partitioning right?
[06:57] <Skaman> the problem is that i'm loading it manually
[06:57] <ubuntu> yea
[06:57] <abattoir> ubuntu: what is the device name for / ?
[06:57] <Skaman> i have no idea to how make it load by default
[06:57] <iqon> is it possible to change the dpi of fonts in kde?
[06:57] <ubuntu> abattoir: let me chek
[06:57] <ubuntu> abattoir: let me check
[06:58] <abattoir> Skaman: add 'auto rausb0' and in the next line 'iface rausb0 inet dhcp'
[06:58] <ubuntu> abattoir: hda6
[06:58] <abattoir> Skaman: similar stuff already exists... so you know how to do it
[06:58] <ubuntu> is it reiser4?
[06:59] <abattoir> ubuntu: the command is 'mkreiserfs /dev/hda6' then ...
[06:59] <abattoir> ubuntu: you are sure right?
[06:59] <ubuntu> yea
[06:59] <abattoir> enter that in a terminal
[06:59] <ubuntu> abattoir: i can always reinstall everying
[06:59] <abattoir> you will need to unmount it... if you have mounted it
[07:00] <ubuntu> why do i always screw up on typing
[07:00] <abattoir> ok, then that's cool, you can play around all you want ;)
[07:00] <Skaman> abattoir i edit that and then i have to reboot?
[07:00] <abattoir> Skaman: save, and yes reboot... your usb driver module is loaded automatically right?
[07:00] <abattoir> Skaman:
[07:01] <abattoir> Skaman: now, ifup should work
[07:01] <abattoir> Skaman: and you should be able to connect
[07:01] <Skaman> ahh
[07:01] <Skaman> k
[07:01] <Skaman> now works!
[07:01] <Skaman> thanks!
[07:01] <abattoir> Skaman: cool :)
[07:01] <Skaman> abattoir
[07:01] <abattoir> ubuntu: done ?
[07:02] <ubuntu> abattoir: do i still need a separate /boot?
[07:02] <Skaman> can you help me for the next little step?
[07:02] <abattoir> ubuntu: no, not necessary
[07:02] <abattoir> Skaman: if i can, sure
[07:02] <ubuntu> ok well i'll repartition
[07:02] <Skaman> i'm loading the driver manually
[07:02] <Skaman> but i'd like to be loaded at startup
[07:02] <abattoir> Skaman: what is the command?
[07:02] <voltrox> hi
[07:02] <Skaman> a sec
[07:02] <_ubuntu> erm... what's the option to install 5.10 from the livedvd once you've booted to it?
[07:02] <||Trayer||> Anyone know what file/command I need to use to run ut2k4 on ubuntu? It's installed to \usr\local\games\ut2004
[07:02] <Skaman> i give you
[07:02] <||Trayer||> *kubuntu
[07:03] <Skaman> abattoir is: /sbin/insmod rt73.ko
[07:04] <ubuntu> ||Trayer||: when i installed it i removed the local from stuff, so i think /usr/local/bin/ut2004 will work
[07:04] <abattoir> Skaman: try adding the module to /etc/modules
[07:05] <||Trayer||> ubuntu: My user local bin is empty, No files.
[07:05] <||Trayer||>  and for some reason I have no desktop icon/not appearing in games.  Though all the files are there
[07:05] <abattoir> samo: i dont think such an option exists...
[07:05] <Skaman_> abattoir what if i try making : "cp rt73.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/net"  ???
[07:06] <abattoir> Skaman: hmmm, and then do a 'sudo depmod -a' might work, though i havent personally tried something like that
[07:06] <bsanford> Hello
[07:06] <||Trayer||> How do I use a .run file?
[07:06] <samo> arrrggghhh.... I think I f*cked up lilo and I can't run the 6.06 live dvd, it looses video
[07:06] <Skaman_> or what do you suggest me?
[07:07] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: sh ./file.run ?
[07:07] <aliasfred> q. is kitten/striggi packaged for kubuntu ?
[07:07] <abattoir> samo: i'm sure there is a text installer in the DVD
[07:07] <Skaman> i've read it here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190422&highlight=rt73
[07:07] <abattoir> Skaman: sure, you can try that :)
[07:08] <abattoir> Skaman: or put it somewhere in /etc/modprobe.d ... wait i'll search
[07:08] <Skaman_> and i have to insert rt73 in /etc/modules right?
[07:09] <abattoir> Skaman_: yes, that sounds right...
[07:09] <toka> How can I activate the SPDIF output? Asus A8N-SLI SE . ? REALTEK ALC850
[07:09] <Skaman_> let me try a reboot
[07:09] <Skaman_> _D
[07:09] <ubuntu> I'll be back after reinstalling windows to try an reinstall kubuntu again, so i don't have to replace grub if ubuntu installs second
[07:10] <abattoir> Skaman_: or, you could also write a script and put it in /etc/init.d
[07:10] <Skaman_> ok i've tried the first way....BRB
[07:10] <Skaman_> :D
[07:10] <||Trayer||> How do I run UT2004? It's fully installed and I just updated my drivers
[07:11] <flake> does changing the virtual starting IP pool on your router from 192.168.2.2  to 192.168.2.x do anything for security on a client multiplayer game machine?
[07:11] <flake> is dmz recommended to help get alleviate the lag?
[07:14] (andrea/#kubuntu) grazie
[07:15] (abattoir/#kubuntu) andrea: prego :)
[07:15] (DaSkreech/#kubuntu) ah Mia of course! :0
[07:15] (Skaman/#kubuntu) abettoir: doesn't work
[07:15] (Skaman/#kubuntu) :(
[07:15] (abattoir/#kubuntu) Skaman: which one?
[07:15] <Skaman> mortacc
[07:15] <abattoir> moracc ?
[07:16] <abattoir> *ugh mortacc ?
[07:16] <Skaman> :D
[07:16] <abattoir>  /etc/modules ?
[07:16] <||Trayer||> Augh! I cant figure out what the hell i need to run to run UT, everyone just says it's on their desktop!
[07:16] <Skaman> if i give: modprobe rt73 : FATAL module rt73 not found
[07:16] <Skaman> :(
[07:17] <GIGANTOR> isn't
[07:17] <GIGANTOR> er
[07:17] <abattoir> Skaman: hmm.. then i guess it needs to be a listed module
[07:17] <GIGANTOR> isn't xserver-xorg a command to let you tweak your vid settings?
[07:17] <abattoir> Skaman: what about adding a script
[07:17] <Skaman> let's see if still work loading it manually
[07:17] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: nope, its a package
[07:17] <Skaman> i' think i'm too newbie to add a script myself
[07:17] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is :)
[07:17] <GIGANTOR> what is it i'm thinking of then... hmm..
[07:18] <GIGANTOR> there's something that lets you tweak your settings at command line
[07:18] <abattoir> Skaman: no, just put the commands in a file, and it becomes a script :)
[07:18] <GIGANTOR> maybe thats the answer aba, hmm
[07:18] <GIGANTOR> yeah, that is it
[07:18] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[07:18] <abattoir> i'm sure someone here knows more..
[07:19] <abattoir> anyway i'll look up wait
[07:19] <Skaman> but..
[07:19] <Skaman> the cmd
[07:19] <Skaman> wait
[07:19] <abattoir> Skaman what if you add the full path of the module ?
[07:20] <GIGANTOR> !CLI
[07:20] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:20] <GIGANTOR> bah
[07:20] <Skaman> i'm loading it manually from the folder of the driver
[07:21] <GIGANTOR> bot is loading like it's a bit hungover today
[07:21] <alcosmurf> anyone got any idea how i debug a system that completly freezes for no apparant reason?
[07:22] <n3storm> alcosmurf: first check /var/log/error messages
[07:22] <Skaman_> abattoir now is on /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/net why it doesn't load
[07:22] <Skaman_> ??
[07:22] <alcosmurf> gone frew nearly all logs.. nothing looks odd.. it just stops
[07:22] <||Trayer||> Can someone give me the command to run linux-installer.sh on my cd again?
[07:23] <abattoir> Skaman: i think a list of modules to load is stored somewhere, and just because you put it in the folder, it wont get loaded... that's what i can think of
[07:23] <Skaman_> abattoir maybe i have to put it in "/lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/drivers/usb/net"
[07:23] <abattoir> Skaman: you ran 'sudo depmod -a' ?
[07:23] <dom> Hi, I'm having problems with KMail.  I can't seem to decrypt PGP encrypted messages.  Checking signatures works fine but I can't decrypt anything.  Even messages I send encrypted to myself.  Yet all these same messages decrypt properly with Thunderbird/Enigmail
[07:23] <dom> wtf?
[07:23] <abattoir> Skaman_: hmmm, you can try that...
[07:23] <Skaman_> abattoir no
[07:23] <Skaman_> but i even don't know what it does
[07:24] <abattoir> Skaman: oh, i asked you to do that...
[07:24] <abattoir> i think it updates the kernel's modules list
[07:24] <abattoir> afaik
[07:24] <Skaman_> sry din't read u
[07:24] <Skaman_> now i've run it
[07:24] <Skaman_> no output
[07:25] <abattoir> [22:35:58]  <Skaman_> abattoir what if i try making : "cp rt73.ko /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/net"  ???
[07:25] <abattoir> [22:36:34]  <abattoir> Skaman: hmmm, and then do a 'sudo depmod -a' might work, though i havent personally tried something like that
[07:25] <abattoir> :P
[07:25] <abattoir> well, that's good then
[07:25] <abattoir> try restarting, see if the module is loaded
[07:25] <Johncro13> hello again, room.
[07:25] <Johncro13> I'm despirate.
[07:26] <Skaman_> i reboot
[07:26] <Skaman_> let's see
[07:28] <pc04> somebody Spanish speak??
[07:28] <Johncro13> x won't start for me.
[07:28] <abattoir> !es
[07:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <pc04> Muchas gracias!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:29] <Johncro13> libxdmcp6 Depends
[07:29] <Johncro13> x11-common
[07:29] <Skaman> it works!!
[07:29] <abattoir> pc04: de nada :)
[07:29] <abattoir> Skaman: nice :)
[07:30] <Johncro13> unmet dependancy error, etc, etc...
[07:30] <Johncro13> anybody know about this?
[07:30] <Skaman> abattoir don't know if it's "sudo depmod -a" or copying the driver in the right place but now works!!
[07:30] <Skaman> thank you so much!
[07:30] <abattoir> Skaman: i'd say depmod :P
[07:31] <abattoir> Skaman: no problem :)
[07:32] <Niunio> Hello. I need help to configure an Epson parport scanner.
[07:32] <Skaman> but i rebooted the forst time
[07:33] <Skaman> i'll take a tour of "man depmod" to understand :D
[07:33] <abattoir> Skaman: hehe, i should do that too. :P
[07:33] <Niunio> XSane detects my web-cam but it doesn't detect my Epson scanner...
[07:36] <Niunio> Nobody helps me?
[07:38] <pichi> hello
[07:38] <Skaman> abattoir
[07:39] <Skaman> i think that worked because the driver goues under /drivers/usb/net/
[07:39] <Skaman> in fact the driver for another wifi card i know is there
[07:39] <Skaman> :D
[07:40] <DaSkreech> alcosmurf: I'd install a SSH server and ssh in
[07:40] <abattoir> Skaman: now that i've read 'man depmod' i am even more convinced it was depmod which did the trick ;0
[07:40] <abattoir> ;)
[07:41] <Schamane_> hi
[07:41] <abattoir> Skaman: depmod is what kinda 'indexes' the modules which are under /lib/modules/$kernel
[07:41] <Niunio> Sigh... Nobody wants to help me...
[07:42] <abattoir> Skaman: so even if you place it there/ remove it from there... w/o running depmod, it wont have an effect
[07:42] <abattoir> Niunio: hmmm.. i have no clue about that... sorry
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Niunio: Maybe no one can right now
[07:43] <abattoir> Niunio: Kooka automatically detects my hp scanner, that's all i know, sorry
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Niunio: If you like you can ask in #ubuntu it's not really a KDE related issue and there are more people in there
[07:43] <Niunio> Okis, thanks
[07:44] <Niunio> I'll try.
[07:44] <Skaman> ahhh ok
[07:44] <Skaman> :D
[07:44] <AntiCasp3r> hi@ll
[07:44] <DaSkreech> AntiCasp3r: Wendy?
[07:44] <AntiCasp3r> pardon?
[07:44] <AntiCasp3r> i am new here
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Anti Casper
[07:44] <DaSkreech> The friendly Ghost?
[07:44] <ralf> hi, I just changed from ubuntu to kubuntu. Can someone tell me how to create a personal folder link on the desktop? If I do "Link to location" with /home/ralf the icon will just be a boring white paper
[07:45] <abattoir> DaSkreech: hehe
[07:45] <AntiCasp3r> lol
[07:45] <DaSkreech> ralf: You can change the Icon AIR
[07:45] <AntiCasp3r> is some german here?
[07:45] <abattoir> !de
[07:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:45] <DaSkreech> !gr
[07:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr   
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Doh
[07:45] <abattoir> DaSkreech: that's greek :)
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Well Duh! :)
[07:46] <AntiCasp3r> ok
[07:46] <abattoir> ralf: you want to create a link on your desktop, back to your home?
[07:46] <ralf> abattoir: yes
[07:46] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: yo
[07:47] <ralf> abattoir: it worked, I created it manually and changed the icon
[07:47] <||Trayer||>  DaSkreech: wurd.
[07:47] <abattoir> ralf: oh, it was the 'boring' icon that bothered you ;)
[07:47] <ralf> abattoir: I just thought maybe I can drag and drop the menu item
[07:48] <abattoir> ralf: sure, you can do that
[07:48] <||Trayer||> my "sudo sh /media/cdrom/linux-installer.sh" command isn't working, it says no such file or directory.  I got the CD it's on mounted, What gives?
[07:48] <abattoir> ralf: when you do that you'll be asked if you want to move it, copy it link it etc.
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Check that that's the right path
[07:50] <ralf> abattoir: the link was in the system-menu. I tried to drag and drop, but it didn't work
[07:50] <v3ctor> also check case
[07:51] <abattoir> ralf, it does for me, you are dropping it on the desktop right? It comes up w/ a menu... asking if you want to copy it, move it, link it etc.
[07:51] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: Check that it's the right path
[07:52] <abattoir> ralf: works?
[07:52] <||Trayer||>  DaSkreech: The file name seems to match exactly, though I did a cd /media/cdrom and ls, it was empty.  Is there any other possible paths it could of mounted to...?
[07:52] <ralf> abattoir: if i klick and hold left mouse button, nothing happens (as i said, not in the k-menu, but in the system-menu)
[07:53] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: Cdroms are strange sometimes.
[07:53] <erik_> Hi! When I boot I get all kinds of messages, it seems to me as if it's trying to do all this stuff before the root fs is remounted rw
[07:53] <abattoir> ralf: oh, in the panel? next to the Kmenu button?
[07:53] <ralf> abattoir: yes
[07:53] <DaSkreech> I had a few that would not mount until Iclicked on them in Konqueror
[07:53] <erik_> I can't see them all but it's like "Can't create inetd.conf read only filesystem"
[07:53] <||Trayer||> I'll try that then
[07:53] <cpk2> ||Trayer||: do a ls in /media/
[07:54] <abattoir> ralf: can you try from the Kmenu? you have an entry?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> cpk2: There is a cdrom and cdrom0 In there
[07:54] <cpk2> ||Trayer||: i had a cd drive that was a burner and was listed as two things
[07:54] <erik_> I think it's only the basic networking that goes off before the fs is remounted
[07:54] <erik_> How would I go about changing that?
[07:54] <abattoir> ralf: or you can just open up /home in konqueror... drag ralf from there to the desktop and link it
[07:54] <||Trayer||>  cpk2: My Ls turned upcdrom cdrom0 and hdb.  Right now it is in my cd/dvd reader/player, Not in my burner.  Should I try the burner now?
[07:55] <abattoir> ralf: and you can change the icon :)
[07:55] <cpk2> DaSkreech: then he should probably check cdrom0 eh? =p
[07:55] <DaSkreech> cpk2: So it seems :)
[07:55] <ralf> abattoir: ok and how can i move e.g. the network icon to the desktop?
[07:55] <cpk2> ||Trayer||: you sure you know which is which in /media/
[07:55] <_JP> grub's "menu.lst" is overwritten always when i update kernel. where/how do i conf grub defaults?
[07:55] <||Trayer||>  cpk2: Fairly
[07:56] <cpk2> ||Trayer||: well did you try mounting cdrom0?
[07:56] <abattoir> ralf: network icon? sorry i dont have the default setup, so dont exactly know what you are referring to
[07:56] <||Trayer||>  cpk2&DaSkreech: In the hdb folder is my UT2k4 Cd, all the files are showing up in an LS.  It shows mounted on my desktop
[07:57] <abattoir> ralf: what does it do when you click it? what does it open?
[07:57] <cpk2> ||Trayer||: is that the cd you are lopoking for?
[07:57] <ralf> abattoir: system:/remote  oh well, thats the answer :)
[07:57] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: Umm ok :) Well then try sh /media/hdb/linux-installer.sh
[07:58] <||Trayer||>  cpk2: That it is, It's strange where it mounted to = \.
[07:58] <abattoir> ralf: rt. click on the desktop -> Create new link -> uRL -> system:/remote
[07:58] <abattoir> ralf: you should get a good icon too :P
[07:58] <kOpter> Yello :) I've got a really dumb problem... I'm missing my Location / Edit / View buttons at the top of my Konqueror...
[07:58] <DaSkreech> I take it that hdb is your Cdrom?
[07:58] <ralf> abattor: yes :)  thanks for help
[07:58] <DaSkreech> kOpter: Try Ctrl+M
[07:58] <cpk2> ||Trayer||: strange is having to mount a cd as /media/cdrom if you arent burning something and then as /media/cdrecorder if you are when its the same drive...
[07:59] <ubuntu> &j pepe
[07:59] <abattoir> ok, i'm taking a break. :)
[07:59] <||Trayer||> DaKreech Yep, it is.
[07:59] <kOpter> DaSkreech: Ok :) Why does that work :)?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> kOpter: It's a KDE Kommand thingy
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Works on most apps
[07:59] <kOpter> Thanks :)
[07:59] <abattoir> kOpter: because KDE is super-awesome? :P
[07:59] <DaSkreech> abattoir: It's bekause :)
[08:00] <abattoir> DaSkreech: indeed, my mistake :)
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Ok Something is horribly wrong with Amarok
[08:02] <abattoir> DaSkreech: mp3 doesnt work out of the box? :P ;)
[08:02] <||Trayer||>  So, No one knows what file I need to launch UT2k4? So I guess I'm stuck re-installing so it makes the desktop icon?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> :-P
[08:02] <DaSkreech> ||Trayer||: Where did install to?
[08:02] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: why dont you make the shortcut yourself?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Anytime I try to stream something amarok freezes up
[08:03] <||Trayer||>  DaSkreech&Abattoir: I'm not sure which file is the actual game it self
[08:03] <DaSkreech> abattoir: I don't think he knows what to link it to
[08:03] <abattoir> DaSkreech: 1.4.1 ?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> abattoir: si
[08:03] <||Trayer||>  DaSkreech: It is installed to /usr/local/games/ut2004
[08:03] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: you chose the default installation settings?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Ok It started playing after 15 minutes
[08:04] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: Yep
[08:04] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: have you tried the command ut2004 ?
[08:05] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: Launching up console and trying
[08:05] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: ut2004, and the result: "bash: ut2004: command not found"
[08:05] <abattoir> heh, ok, wait up
[08:06] <abattoir> you checked /usr/local/games/ut2004 for an executable ?
[08:07] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: A few times, I'm not sure which file formats are executable for Linux to be honest.
[08:07] <Bombur> why
[08:07] <abattoir> do a locate on ut2004.bin
[08:07] <Bombur> no
[08:07] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: Launching Konqueror
[08:07] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: you kio-locate
[08:07] <Bombur> why
[08:07] <abattoir> sorry, try :)
[08:07] <abattoir> Bombur: wth?
[08:08] <||Trayer||> C%4 abattoir: The locate returned 0 files, Should I search the folders for a bin?
[08:08] <abattoir> hmm.. yes
[08:09] <abattoir> see under the system directory
[08:09] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Sure it's a .bin ?
[08:09] <abattoir> DaSkreech: Uncle google seems to think so :P
[08:10] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: I did a search int he system folder for "*.bin" and no results
[08:10] <Bombur> why
[08:10] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: but is there a ut2004 file there ?
[08:10] <|lostbyte|> hi ! everyone..
[08:10] <Bombur> no
[08:10] <abattoir> i mean the system directory under the ut2004 directory
[08:11] <DaSkreech> try a ls -r /usr/local/*.bin
[08:11] <abattoir> Bombur: are you a bot ?
[08:11] <DaSkreech> !kops
[08:11] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[08:11] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: Yeah, There is a /usr/local/games/ut2004/system
[08:11] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: under that
[08:11] <abattoir> is there a .bin or ut2004 ?
[08:12] <||Trayer||> In the main folder the only executable is the uninstall file, and checking system now
[08:13] <nalioth> DaSkreech: yes?
[08:13] <Schamane_> HI
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Can we get Bombur muted?
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Hi Schamane_
[08:13] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: Not that I can see, atleast not color coded
[08:14] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: hmmm, the installation process was completed successfully?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> nalioth: Thanks
[08:14] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: As far as I know, I think I should re-install
[08:15] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: i think too
[08:15] <abattoir> i mean, i think you should too :P
[08:15] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: Though, Is it safe without removing the old files first?
[08:15] <abattoir> you told me there is an uninstall script... use that :0
[08:15] <abattoir> :)
[08:15] <||Trayer||> :O Genious
[08:15] <linuxmonkey> how do i set my clock to show GMT?
[08:17] <abattoir> linuxmonkey: rt. click on the clock -> Adjust time
[08:17] <abattoir> 'date and time' in fact
[08:18] <abattoir> you can have it show multiple timezones too if you want
[08:18] <||Trayer||> Gunna sound stupid, How do I run the uninstall script? Location: "/usr/local/games/ut2004/uninstall"
[08:18] <linuxmonkey> yeah its what i did for other timezones but cant find GMT
[08:18] <abattoir> linuxmonkey: its called UTC
[08:18] <linuxmonkey> not the same
[08:19] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: like how you ran the install script? :P
[08:19] <abattoir> w/ sudo ?
[08:19] <abattoir> linuxmonkey: its not the same?
[08:19] <||Trayer||> Well, I tried ./uninstall in the folder, and sudo ./uninstall.
[08:19] <slow-motion> brb
[08:20] <abattoir> sudo sh ./uninstall ?
[08:20] <linuxmonkey> oh nvm
[08:20] <abattoir> in the folder i.e
[08:20] <||Trayer||> Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting
[08:20] <||Trayer||> Over-installing it is!
[08:20] <hardw1re> Afternoon/Evening all
[08:20] <Bombur> why
[08:21] <abattoir> how did this bot come back?
[08:21] <BlankB> !azureus
[08:21] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:21] <abattoir> a java bot?
[08:21] <hardw1re> Anyone familiar with getting the latest aMSN to work on an AMD 64 kernel kubuntu?
[08:21] <||Trayer||> I just use Kopete :O
[08:21] <abattoir> hardw1re: you are using the deb fro the repo
[08:22] <hardw1re> which repo?
[08:22] <abattoir> !info amsn
[08:22] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[08:22] <abattoir> hardw1re: enable universe
[08:22] <abattoir> !universe
[08:22] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:22] <hardw1re> no i was trying to use the source version from the sourceforge project site
[08:22] <DaSkreech> nalioth: can you not kick it but just mute it?
[08:22] <Bombur> why
[08:23] <abattoir> hardw1re: easier to use the deb, if you ask me :)
[08:23] <abattoir> same version right?
[08:23] <hardw1re> i seem to be having the gcc problem ppl are talking about
[08:23] <abattoir> hardw1re: you dont have gcc installed ?
[08:23] <hardw1re> i do
[08:23] <abattoir> then, what's the problem?
[08:23] <hardw1re> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:23] <abattoir> do you have all the packages needed for compiling
[08:24] <abattoir> hmmm, i'd suggest you use the deb
[08:24] <ubuntu> hello guys
[08:24] <abattoir> but if you still want to compile, install build-essential
[08:24] <abattoir> !info build-essential
[08:24] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[08:24] <hardw1re> tis been a year since i've used ubuntu...
[08:24] <nalioth> hardw1re: that is not a "gcc" problem but sometimes a ./configure problem
[08:24] <LVADER> hello guys
[08:24] <abattoir> !build-essential
[08:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:24] <LVADER> i need help on installing kubuntu
[08:24] <LVADER> i need to knw how can i have separate /boot partition
[08:25] <LVADER> how am i suppose to label them
[08:25] <||Trayer||>  Use the force
[08:25] <hardw1re> i use to be able to do the apt commands from konsole, and now ive completely forggotten how to work it lol
[08:25] <abattoir> heh, LVADER, using an XFS partition for / ?
[08:25] <LVADER> any help on this
[08:25] <LVADER> havent yet
[08:25] <LVADER> i'm at the preparing the partitions stage
[08:26] <abattoir> hardw1re: follow the instructions ubotu gave you
[08:26] <LVADER> i wanna create a /boot partition
[08:26] <abattoir> LVADER: a separate boot partition is not necessary unless you choose XFS for / .
[08:26] <abattoir> LVADER: however, if you know what you are doing, then just create it like any other partition
[08:26] <LVADER> but i'm planning to have other OS on my pc
[08:27] <abattoir> format as ext3 or something, but not XFS
[08:27] <abattoir> LVADER: windows?
[08:27] <LVADER> abattoir: how am i going to create them
[08:27] <LVADER> the label thing is not labelling them
[08:27] <LVADER> for sure not that shitty OS
[08:27] <LVADER> i wanna install gentoo and solaris later if possible
[08:27] <hardw1re> :|
[08:28] <hardw1re> why have so many different distros?
[08:28] <abattoir> LVADER: afaik,  a separate /boot is not really needed unless you use XFS for /
[08:28] <abattoir> because grub and XFS have issues
[08:28] <LVADER> abattoir: okie, but i have to store my kernel images there if i were to have other OS
[08:28] <LVADER> i need to place my grub there
[08:28] <||Trayer||>  I dunno, I used to be on gentoo linux because it had support to play WoW, But I heard it's been done on ubuntu to
[08:29] <hardw1re> it has?
[08:29] <hardw1re> ooooh i think i shall install wow while i wait for css to download
[08:29] <abattoir> LVADER: if you are sure about what you are doing.. then its ok
[08:29] <LVADER> ||Trayer||: u use gentoo before?
[08:29] <abattoir> LVADER: are you using the livecd ?
[08:29] <||Trayer||>  LVADER: Just a little
[08:29] <LVADER> abattoir: i'm sure of what i'm doing
[08:30] <LVADER> yes, i'm using rite now
[08:30] <LVADER> just i dunno how to lay the partition
[08:30] <LVADER> installing on a fresh hdd
[08:30] <abattoir> ok, in the partitioning stage, create a new partition... format it as ext3
[08:30] <LVADER> abattoir: okie
[08:30] <abattoir> LVADER: there is a nice graphical partitioning stage in the installer
[08:30] <abattoir> it incorporates Qtparted
[08:30] <||Trayer||>  For anyone who wants to play WoW On Ubuntu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615
[08:31] <LVADER> abattoir: okie..i'm at it
[08:31] <hardw1re> cheers ||Trayer||
[08:31] <abattoir> LVADER: well, its pretty much self explanatory isnt it?
[08:31] <LVADER> how am i going to label the ext3 partition as /boot
[08:31] <abattoir> LVADER: mountpoint would be /boot
[08:31] <LVADER> abattoir: okie
[08:32] <abattoir> you'll have that option
[08:32] <LVADER> let me play for awhile
[08:32] <abattoir> hmmm, i'm really taking a break now....
[08:32] <abattoir> will watch a movie before getting back to work :)
[08:32] <abattoir> bye
[08:32] <LVADER> bye
[08:32] <hardw1re> ||Trayer||: can WoW not be run from Cedega?
[08:33] <BlankB> !xen
[08:33] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
[08:34] <||Trayer||>  hardw1re: I'd assume, but I have never tried.  I Had it running with wine on gentoo, and now I'm getting it on ubuntu.  I'd assume as Cedega is a recoding of wine geard towards game
[08:34] <hardw1re> yeah i have a cedega/transgaming account
[08:34] <hardw1re> i'll give it a go
[08:34] <LVADER> can anyone tell me how space does a fresh install of ubuntu will take?
[08:35] <ralf_> Is there link like "Show Desktop" in Windows (it should hide all windows and show the desktop)?
[08:35] <hardw1re> umm well i think it needs a minimum of 2gb ?
[08:35] <DaSkreech> ralf_: Alt+Ctrl+D
[08:35] <LVADER> cause i'm thinking of giving a 5gb to it
[08:35] <||Trayer||> Oooh thanks DasKreech I didn't know that :O
[08:35] <ralf_> oh nice :)
[08:35] <LVADER> and i might install dome development tools..
[08:36] <LVADER> for programming, web development stuffs
[08:36] <hardw1re> well i have 512mb swap, 2gb / 16gb /home etc
[08:36] <vge> ralf_: Windows has the "SD" button
[08:36] <LVADER> my swap is 1gb
[08:36] <||Trayer||>  Is anyone here into game programming, and if so tested out http://www.jmonkeyengine.com ?
[08:36] <LVADER> hardw1re: how did u set the mountpoint?
[08:36] <||Trayer||>  On Kubuntu?
[08:37] <Child4Christ> im installing Kubuntu on my server (for my network) is there anyway to log into it remotly without the SSH server?
[08:37] <Kr4t05> Child4Christ: Erm.... No clue.
[08:38] <hardw1re> well i just went to the parition editor bit in the installer and manually set it
[08:38] <hardw1re> but are you installing ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu?
[08:38] <Child4Christ> i cant hook it up to anything other than my router when i bring it in here so
[08:38] <||Trayer||> What about edubuntu :O
[08:38] <hardw1re> not tried that one lol
[08:38] <LVADER> kubuntu
[08:39] <LVADER> i dont edubuntu cds of 64bit version
[08:39] <||Trayer||> why so many buntus,,,
[08:39] <LVADER> hardw1re: u mean ur using ubuntu?
[08:39] <Child4Christ> how do i install Kubuntu without KDE?
[08:39] <LVADER> ||Trayer||: hhahha
[08:39] <hardw1re> nah kub
[08:39] <hardw1re> you install ubuntu instead
[08:39] <LVADER> hardw1re: aight..will try first
[08:40] <hardw1re> i was talking to Child4Christ
[08:40] <||Trayer||> UT gave me the following error: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[08:40] <vge> Child4Christ: put SERVER as startup option if im not mistaken
[08:40] <LVADER> hardw1re: i'm not a gnome guy...even gentoo i'm using a fluxbox
[08:40] <Child4Christ> the option wasnt selectable :/
[08:40] <hardw1re> UT is native to linux though ||Trayer||?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> Child4Christ: Are you using the alternate CD?
[08:41] <||Trayer||>  hardw1re: Yep, Linux installer right on the CDs
[08:41] <DaSkreech> And Mac
[08:41] <Child4Christ> no just the standard one
[08:41] <Child4Christ> out of cds :(
[08:41] <DaSkreech> <3 Epic
[08:41] <DaSkreech> Child4Christ: Erm. Not sure then
[08:41] <||Trayer||> Either way, what should I do about this "Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual" error
[08:41] <LVADER> can anyone tell me why does ubuntu does not support reiser
[08:41] <gatekeeper_> hiya DaSkreech how are you doing?
[08:41] <DaSkreech>  You can install it and then use adept to remove KDElibs
[08:41] <LVADER> atleast 3.6
[08:41] <Child4Christ> would apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop do it?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper_: Still sick
[08:42] <DaSkreech> Child4Christ: Nope you have to do Xserver or kdelibs
[08:42] <hardw1re> although the original UT GOTYE i had to download the installer convert thingy
[08:42] <DaSkreech> Child4Christ: Why don't you want to use the SSh Server?
[08:42] <hardw1re> well cedega has no problems with installing wow... its doing it right now :D
[08:42] <hardw1re> probably cause he's too lazy to learn to do everything by command line
[08:43] <hardw1re> and he needs a lovely little mouse point
[08:43] <hardw1re> where he can click things
[08:43] <LVADER> hardw1re: okie..manage to set all the mountpoints..thanks for your help
[08:43] <Child4Christ> ssh is what im gonna be using to log into it but i can only hook up the hdd itself (case and all) to the router cause there isnt any room for another monitor or anything
[08:43] <||Trayer||>  50$ Says my issue is with video drivers.  Anyone know where/how I can set up ATI Radeon x700 drivers for linux?
[08:43] <DaSkreech> hardw1re: He just asked to remove the GUI....
[08:43] <gatekeeper_> DaSkreech: oh dear sorry to hear that
[08:43] <hardw1re> im bored
[08:44] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper_: Me too!
[08:44] <hardw1re> lol
[08:44] <DaSkreech> hardw1re: Stumbleupon!
[08:44] <hardw1re> ||Trayer||: rofl, no idea mate i have nvidia here <3
[08:44] <DaSkreech> !ati > ||Trayer||
[08:44] <aliasfred> about removing package, once i got told about a tool which extract the package which are not dependancy of other. thus being able to know which one can be removed safely, anybody remember the name of this tool ?
[08:44] <LVADER> okie..anyone here using reiser fs??
[08:45] <h3sp4wn> ||Trayer||: The ones from ati.com are newer (and a bit better) than the ones in dapper
[08:45] <||Trayer||>  DaSkreech: Thanks, Now, to listen to ubotu
[08:45] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:45] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: Yes
[08:46] <gatekeeper_> evening h3sp4wn
[08:46] <LVADER> h3sp4wn: what version
[08:46] <LVADER> 4?
[08:46] <h3sp4wn> 3
[08:46] <h3sp4wn> 4 is horribly broken
[08:46] <hardw1re> i hate frosties and there gay advert
[08:46] <LVADER> what kernel do u use?
[08:46] <LVADER> why do you say so?
[08:46] <h3sp4wn> 2.6.17.6
[08:46] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: I know people who have used it and lost data (more than once)
[08:46] <LVADER> so u downloaded the kernel done the kernel config by urslef?
[08:46] <Child4Christ> is Kubuntu compatable with Debian Sarge packages?
[08:47] <LVADER> but i've used for more than one year with no problems
[08:47] <LVADER> no lockups or anything
[08:47] <h3sp4wn> reiser4 ?
[08:47] <LVADER> yup
[08:47] <aliasfred> Child4Christ: nope all package got repackaged by ubuntu
[08:47] <h3sp4wn> LVADERL: On what distro ?
[08:47] <LVADER> don wanna start a flamewar here or but i've used it
[08:47] <LVADER> gentoo
[08:48] <LVADER> i was using the beyond sources
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: well keep using it
[08:48] <ralf_> Is there a way to create a button hiding all windows (same as ctrl+alt+d)?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Were you aying something about the nVidia drivers the other day
[08:48] <LVADER> i will gotta install later
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Supporting something or toher?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> other
[08:48] <Child4Christ> right so i have a lot of work to do lol bbiab gonna hook the other box up in here :S
[08:48] <LVADER> just asking how to enable the stuff in ubuntu
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: supporting xorg 7.1
[08:48] <LVADER> any kernel that supports it or i have to download by itself?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Ah right
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> Its supported by the kernel
[08:48] <DaSkreech> AIGLX?
[08:49] <abattoir> ralf_: rt. click on the panel -> Add aplet -> Show desktop
[08:49] <abattoir> *applet
[08:49] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: Install with debootstrap
[08:49] <LVADER> debootstrap?
[08:49] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: None of the installers will let you install onto reiserfs 4
[08:49] <LVADER> u mean when i start the livecd itself?
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Does Xen Support vanderpool?
[08:50] <LVADER> but i wonder why theres no resierfs at all
[08:50] <LVADER> atleast 3 will do
[08:50] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: Search the wiki for installing from knoppix (thats the method you need to use)
[08:50] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: The kernel supports reiser fs 4
[08:50] <LVADER> u mean use knoppix to install ubuntu or pure debian?
[08:50] <LVADER> h3sp4wn: but no option in the installer
[08:50] <h3sp4wn> No
[08:51] <LVADER> h3sp4wn: the qt installer to be specific
[08:51] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: I have never used the qt installer
[08:51] <LVADER> h3sp4wn: how did u installed ur kubuntu?
[08:51] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: I know the text installer doesn't and that has more options than the qt installer
[08:51] <Child4Christ> where can i get the ssh-server deb package?
[08:51] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: Debootstrap
[08:52] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: Debootstra
[08:52] <LVADER> h3sp4wn: how did u do that?
[08:52] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: (but I am using the development version)
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Child4Christ: Apt-get install openssh-server
[08:52] <ralf_> abattoir: oh, I didn't find it, because I didn't expect the german translation to be like it is
[08:52] <LVADER> devel version?
[08:52] <abattoir> LVADER: the qtparted inteface doesnt have an option for reiserfs, however, you can do that manually...
[08:52] <LVADER> how does it differs from what am i going to use?
[08:52] <Child4Christ> i need to have a copy of the actual .deb package for transfer
[08:52] <h3sp4wn> LVADER: Its alot more broken
[08:52] <LVADER> h3sp4wn: ooh..aight..
[08:52] <abattoir> ralf_: hmmm, it is not there in the add applet list?
[08:53] <LVADER> h3sp4wn: bleeding edge u mean :D
[08:53] <LVADER> h3sp4wn: gotta restart..
[08:53] <LVADER> bubye
[08:53] <LVADER> thanks
[08:53] <ralf_> abattoir: it is, i just had to search twice
[08:53] <abattoir> ralf_: oh ok :)
[08:55] <ralf_> How can I disable it, that another window is focused if I scroll the mouswheel? Sometimes it is disturbing
[08:57] <DaSkreech> ralf_: What?
[08:58] <_vge> ralf_: if you find it, tell me too :I)
[08:58] <ralf_> DaSkreech: if i klick on the titlebar of a window (highlight it) and move the mousewheel, another window is focused
[08:59] <Child4Christ> .udeb the repackaged deb packages?
[08:59] <DaSkreech> ralf_: never noticed that before that's neat :)
[08:59] <_vge> well not in tittlebar :/
[09:01] <ralf_> DaSkreech: i was just surfing with firefox and lost focus a lot since I'm accustomed to scrolling with the mousewheel :)
[09:02] <sdlnxgk> !firewall
[09:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:02] <DaSkreech> ralf_: On the title bar?
[09:02] <aliasfred> bad firestarter
[09:02] <aliasfred> bouh bad
[09:02] <aliasfred> dont use this one
[09:03] <slow-motion> re
[09:03] <sdlnxgk> I think by default  it's enabled and I want to remove it
[09:03] <sdlnxgk> what is the best and easiest?
[09:03] <ralf_> DaSkreech: it happens if you e.g. move the window and then try to scroll down with the mousewheel
[09:04] <sdlnxgk> firestarter not installed
[09:05] <sdlnxgk> and neither is shorewall
[09:05] <sdlnxgk> what is  the best  way to find out if i'm running any  type of software firewall from default setup??
[09:06] <sdlnxgk> fred  is shorewall ok to use???
[09:06] <pepsi> ralf_: System Settings, Desktop, Window Behavior
[09:06] <sdlnxgk> anyone using guard dog??
[09:06] <pepsi> do you have something selected for Titlebar Wheel Event?
[09:07] <ralf_> pepsi: nope
[09:08] <pepsi> hrm
[09:08] <sdlnxgk> shorewall or guarddog for firewall??
[09:08] <Child4Christ> use firstarter, good and easy ^-^
[09:09] <sdlnxgk> no one can seem my public server
[09:09] <sdlnxgk> Child  thanks :D
[09:09] <Child4Christ> guarddog will by defualy, cut you off from the internet :P
[09:09] <Child4Christ> *defualt
[09:09] <Child4Christ> :|
[09:09] <Child4Christ> i cant spell lol
[09:09] <sdlnxgk> guarddog and shorewall  is not installed
[09:10] <sdlnxgk> not sure I have a firewall running  but still can't see my public server  from  outside my network
[09:10] <pepsi> ralf_: the mouse wheel never activates another window for me unless the cursor pointed at another window
[09:10] <gatekeeper_> !iptables
[09:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:10] <ralf_> pepsi: it seems mousewheel on titelbar doesn't change anything (no matter what I set it to)
[09:11] <gatekeeper_> sdlnxgk: firestarter and guardog are just GUI for iptables ^^^
[09:11] <pepsi> lol, its kinda cool to have it set to to shade
[09:11] <Child4Christ> how do i close ports via the term?
[09:12] <sdlnxgk> gatekeeper  thanks kind of figured  that they were just a gui front end but none are installed by default
[09:12] <fatejudger> whenever I create a link to trash:/ on my desktop, it always shows the trash as full
[09:12] <fatejudger> is there any way to get it to reflect the actual state of the trash can?
[09:12] <gatekeeper_> sdlnxgk: correct you need to install them
[09:13] <sdlnxgk> gatekeeper thanks.... not sure what default  settings are in iptables but i'm sure that is the cause of my not seeing  my public server ;)
[09:13] <ironfroggy> i have added a user to a group, but when i run groups on that user, it doens show in the list. am i missing something?
[09:14] <gatekeeper_> sdlnxgk: as I understand it, all ports are closed by default, and are only openned as you install software that require them
[09:15] <ironfroggy> also, i confirmed that other members of the new group do appear with it correctly.
[09:16] <ironfroggy> the user who does not appaer to be a member, but is, is unable to access volumes the group needs to work with.
[09:16] <pepsi> has the user logged out?
[09:16] <ironfroggy> ive started a new shell to test it, which has always worked before.
[09:16] <ralf_> if i'm surfing my hd with konqueror, what is a fast way to open a shell and to be in the current directory
[09:17] <fatejudger> ralf_: F8
[09:17] <ironfroggy> should i try logging out of kde as well?
[09:18] <ralf_> nice, thx :)
[09:18] <fatejudger> ralf_: np
[09:18] <pepsi> ironfroggy: log out
[09:18] <ironfroggy> perfect setup for a good /quit joke
[09:19] <||Trayer||> !resolution
[09:19] <hardw1re> does konversation have any default tools for displaying system info?
[09:19] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:21] <||Trayer||> Are there any simpler ways to change ones resolution...?
[09:21] <ironfroggy> ok, next question, where is a good howto for getting direct rendering and hardware GL working? im running with a decent ATI card, but its got me on indirect mesa
[09:22] <bonggnu> hi, i am trying to installl mediawiki, but shows an error , about PHP5, but i have instaled all php5 mods
[09:22] <aliasfred> find the driver for your graphic card. fyi, a lot of issues are reported with ati cards
[09:22] <||Trayer||>  I repeat, Any simple ways to change ones resolution? I did a really long wizard, and chose the wrong resolution now everything is blurry
[09:22] <bonggnu> PHP 5.0.0 or higher is required. ABORTING.
[09:22] <fatejudger> ||Trayer||: xorg.conf
[09:22] <ironfroggy> aliasfred: i used easyubuntu to get the ATI drivers, and my xorg.conf lists my device as using the driver "ati"
[09:23] <fatejudger> ironfroggy: you need to change it to fglrx
[09:23] <fatejudger> ironfroggy: just follow the ati binary howto on wiki.kubuntu.org
[09:23] <ironfroggy> is ati the generic/unofficial driver?
[09:23] <aliasfred> ironfroggy: glxinfo | grep direct answers what ?
[09:23] <fatejudger> ironfroggy: it's the opensource one
[09:23] <ironfroggy> dont i want the real driver?
[09:23] <fatejudger> ironfroggy: fglrx is the closed source one that ATI puts out
[09:24] <fatejudger> ironfroggy: not necesarialy
[09:24] <aliasfred> ironfroggy: follow fatejudger he likely much more than me about this :)
[09:24] <ironfroggy> ok i thought you meant the fglrx is the open source one.
[09:24] <fatejudger> ironfroggy: do you need 3d rendering capabilities?
[09:24] <ironfroggy> fatejudger: i do
[09:24] <fatejudger> !ati
[09:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:24] <fatejudger> go there and follow that howto
[09:24] <||Trayer||> !pastebin
[09:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:25] <||Trayer||> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18527 is my xorg.conf, can anyone tell me what to change to get back the default resolution? (was it 800x600 oO;?)
[09:26] <ironfroggy> where are the drivers located?
[09:26] <DaSkreech> When was the last time ubuntu-calendar was updated?
[09:26] <ironfroggy> i think they are already installed.
[09:26] <pepsi> DaSkreech: years ago ;D
[09:26] <||Trayer||> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18527
[09:26] <fatejudger> ||Trayer||: that should be right
[09:26] <DaSkreech> Shame
[09:26] <fatejudger> ||Trayer||: just use 1024x768
[09:26] <pepsi> too sexy i guess
[09:26] <ralf_> how can I set the windows-key to open the k-menu? :)
[09:27] <||Trayer||>  fatejudger: It got blurrier though
[09:27] <DaSkreech> We should have aKubuntu-calendar with questionable pictures of Konqui
[09:27] <pepsi> ralf keyboard shortcuts in the regional & accessiblity setting
[09:27] <Jack1> what do i need to install or configure to be instantly alarmed i a new mail comes in??
[09:27] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: lol
[09:28] <||Trayer||>  On another note, Unreal is now giving me a different problem when I attempt to run in. "Can't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file"
[09:28] <fatejudger> ralf_: have you tried the keyboard shortcuts area?
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Though I'm not sure if it fits into the "human" theme of the Ubuntu Philosphy
[09:28] <Jack1> shall i get korn?
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Maybe have a few peseants in the background with trogdor signs?
[09:29] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: speaking of the human theme, we seriously need a default Kubuntu theme that's worth a damn
[09:29] <lodger> hello everybody
[09:29] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: Good Luck Jumpt to it
[09:29] <Tommy2k4> ralf_, you need to reconfigure the key
[09:29] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: heh, I'm no artist
[09:29] <Tommy2k4> i forget how to do it, ill take a look for the guide
[09:29] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: But you do know what you like ;-)
[09:30] <pepsi> speaking of themes, is there an easy way to set all those millions of window style settings to something that looks halfway decent?
[09:30] <pepsi> im used to gnome where i have less options :P
[09:30] <pepsi> this is too many
[09:30] <DaSkreech> pepsi: Welcome to the choice of a new generation
[09:30] <unix_infidel> all that gui nonsense :P
[09:30] <fatejudger> ralf_: Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:31] <fatejudger> ralf_: search for menu in there
[09:31] <fatejudger> ralf_: it's under "popup launch menu"
[09:31] <ralf_> fatejudger: it seems that the windows-key can only be used in conjunction with another key :(
[09:31] <pepsi> DaSkreech: yeah see, thats why i switched cause there are nice little extras, but its like extra-overload for me right now :(
[09:31] <DaSkreech> pepsi: Ignore anything that you don't want to change for mine
[09:31] <fatejudger> ralf_: it seems so
[09:32] <pepsi> DaSkreech: im sorry now?
[09:32] <DaSkreech> pepsi: s/for mine/for now/
[09:32] <fatejudger> I wonder if KDE has a volume monitor similar to the one Ubuntu's Gnome has
[09:32] <BKaj> Well gents, I've followed the instructions here to the letter, ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl ),  but the desktop reverts to the sme old login scrn, even tho I've chosen the Xgl option
[09:32] <DaSkreech> You can learn about it and break it later :-)
[09:33] <||Trayer||>  O O O H H H  Y E A H!!! I Fixed UT2k4 (Well, Kinda.)  You need to run it in Sudo.  It must be a permission error
[09:33] <pepsi> DaSkreech: yes but i want the windows to look better, so that requires changing it
[09:33] <pepsi> DaSkreech: half of the controls styles, for example, look like poop
[09:33] <||Trayer||>  I repeat, Running UT2k4 IN Sudo FIXED THE PROBLEM
[09:33] <||Trayer||>  Now, I'm off to play some ut2k4 : D
[09:34] <user-land> that's funny, i don't see screensaver in kmenu:System Settings ...
[09:35] <DaSkreech> pepsi: kde-look.org ?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> user-land: Type screensaver in the search bar
[09:35] <DaSkreech> user-land: Seeeeee? that's neat
[09:36] <user-land> oh, excellent, daskreech :-)
[09:37] <user-land> great, they took the system settings panel from mac osx and improved it decisively then :-)
[09:37] <DaSkreech> user-land: heh I still have issues with it :)
[09:37] <pepsi> how the heck do you use adept?
[09:37] <user-land> namely ?
[09:38] <DaSkreech> pepsi: Well first you open it
[09:39] <pepsi> how do you find stuff without looking through a huge list? for example how would i find the linux-headers-* packages?
[09:39] <DaSkreech> See the filter at the top
[09:39] <DaSkreech> type linux-h
[09:39] <DaSkreech> wait a little
[09:40] <pepsi> yes, but i already know the name.. what if i didnt
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> Where is the proper place to make sure that whenever rxvt is lauched (i.e via run its aliased how I want it) I can set it in .bashrc or /etc/profile but it doesn't seem to work
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> (unless its from a shell)
[09:44] <BKaj> pepsi:  just type into the search box, it'll automatically find it if it's listed
[09:45] <pepsi> blah, there is no way to view all the packages organized by category as aptitude would show it?
[09:45] <DaSkreech> pepsi: Sorry waht if you didnt what?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> pepsi: Ohhh!
[09:46] <pepsi> like synaptic, i guess
[09:46] <DaSkreech> pepsi: Yeah Drag the tags across
[09:46] <pepsi> does adept just not do this?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> You see the tags on the side?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> Smart|Simple| All?
[09:46] <pepsi> yes, but they dont seem to include all the packages.. for example, i cant find where linux-headers would be :)
[09:47] <pepsi> im just using linux-headers as an example, really.. obviously i dont need to find it in a category if i know the name
[09:47] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure what category linux headers would be in ...
[09:48] <gatekeeper_> pepsi: have you synaptic installed?
[09:48] <pepsi> no but i think i should :)
[09:48] <GIGANTOR> mmmm, liquid cocaine
[09:48] <gatekeeper_> pepsi: it's what I use
[09:49] <pepsi> was just trying to give the default package manager a shot
[09:49] <pepsi> i guess i dont like it, then, eh? :P
[09:49] <DaSkreech> pepsi: I just type in what I'm looking for
[09:49] <DaSkreech> pepsi: it searches desc as well as far as I know
[09:49] <DaSkreech> so Movie would get you all movie players
[09:49] <pepsi> unless it used the term video ;P
[09:50] <DaSkreech> I was looking for something to skin KDM awhile ago and I just yped in theme and dragged over the KDE tag and found it
[09:50] <BKaj> Is anyone running Xgl using the ati frglx drivers?
[09:50] <DaSkreech> pepsi: Yeah :-) but then your search skills come into play :-)
[09:50] <DaSkreech> pepsi: Play with the tags a little bit
[09:51] <DaSkreech> I started out with all but I really like the smart tags now
[09:51] <DaSkreech> BKaj: you could try in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:52] <BKaj> yeah, I did DaSkreech...they were too busy
[09:52] <BKaj> ignored me , cuz I guess my ati card is crap and they can't be bothered with a no'gamer
[09:53] <DaSkreech> Doubt it :)
[09:53] <DaSkreech> BKaj: Which one is it?
[09:53] <BKaj> it's ati xprss200
[09:54] <BKaj> elcheapo , but the site says it'll work
[09:55] <pekay> anyone know where i can get tuxracer? :<
[09:57] <DaSkreech> pekay
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Doh!!
[09:58] <slicslak> what's the best torrent app for kde right now?
[09:59] <shell75> how do ya d/l bittorent in terminal?
[10:01] <slicslak> shell75, net-p2p/bittornado
[10:02] <slicslak> shell75, or, that's the gentoo name anyway  :-)
[10:02] <shell75> ok
[10:04] <ubuntu> hello
[10:05] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Hi
[10:08] <DaSkreech> can kdevelop do Mono?
[10:09] <ubuntu> My wireless stuff is slow help
[10:09] <ben__> C#/Mono for Kdevelop is being worked on either as a Google Summer of Code project
[10:10] <ben__> or as a KDE summer project
[10:10] <ben__> so you might see some results soon.
[10:11] <DaSkreech> Damn it
[10:11] <DaSkreech> Monodevelop has so many dependecies
[10:14] <diego_cl> who can help me setting up my network ?
[10:16] <DaSkreech> pekay: Found it?
[10:16] <danny50010> hi
[10:16] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: Whats up?
[10:16] <danny50010> first time here
[10:16] <DaSkreech> danny50010: Welcome
[10:17] <danny50010> this is my first time ever using linux
[10:17] <diego_cl> hi DaSkreech
[10:17] <diego_cl> mi problem is that i cant share the internet connection
[10:18] <gan|y|med> hi
[10:18] <danny50010> My problem is that nothing is compatible with this fucking OS!
[10:18] <diego_cl> i can explorer the files from the network, but i cant share the internet connection
[10:19] <Hawkwind> danny50010: Easy on the language please
[10:19] <danny50010> sorry
[10:20] <danny50010> how do you open bittorrent?
[10:20] <diego_cl> internet->ktorrent
[10:20] <danny50010> can I use Limewire on linux?
[10:21] <gan|y|med> i am having a problem with imagemagick and convert respectively. i wanna do: convert * -thumbnail x100 -quality 60 picture.jpg
[10:21] <gan|y|med> it works with a certain number of pics, but with larger numbers it says:
[10:21] <gan|y|med>  convert: Application transferred too few scanlines 'picture_name'
[10:21] <gan|y|med>  the pics are corrupted (black or black lines). any ideas?
[10:21] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: Did you try to set it up as a Gateway?
[10:22] <diego_cl> no
[10:22] <diego_cl> how can i do that ?!?!
[10:22] <danny50010> what are you guy's talking about?
[10:22] <DaSkreech> !limewire > danny50010
[10:22] <||Trayer||>  I'm getting the error when I launch ut2004 (It will launch, just without sound) "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy" This is caused by a sound conflict, as the unreal engine refuses to launch sound unless it has total control.  Anyone know any fixes? I tried sudo killall esd
[10:23] <diego_cl> DaSkreech: how can i do that ?!?!
[10:24] <DaSkreech> !paste
[10:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:24] <danny50010> Is ubotu a human?
[10:24] <aliasfred> nope a bot
[10:24] <kosh> nope
[10:24] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18536
[10:24] <danny50010> oh, no wonder it's so dumb.
[10:25] <DaSkreech> danny50010: try /msg ubotu help
[10:25] <danny50010> lol
[10:25] <danny50010> hey DaSkreech
[10:25] <DaSkreech> Yo
[10:25] <danny50010> how do I get Limewire
[10:25] <diego_cl> THANKS ! ! !
[10:26] <DaSkreech> !limewire > danny50010
[10:26] <londondave> danny50010: get frostwire instead
[10:26] <DaSkreech> Rad that
[10:26] <DaSkreech> Read that
[10:26] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: Sure
[10:26] <danny50010> I no how to download it, but my os won't install it.
[10:26] <DaSkreech> danny50010: You don't install it
[10:26] <DaSkreech> It's a java program you just run it
[10:26] <danny50010> you do on windows
[10:26] <DaSkreech> danny50010: This isn't windows
[10:27] <DaSkreech> Even on windows all it does it unpack itself and check to see if you have Java
[10:27] <danny50010> i'm os confused
[10:27] <DaSkreech> Relax. It's a java program
[10:27] <DaSkreech>  all you have to do is install java
[10:27] <danny50010> I downloaded it but it won't install on to my hard drive.
[10:27] <danny50010> were do I get java
[10:27] <aliasfred> sub java is in the repository no ?
[10:27] <DaSkreech> danny50010: Again. You don't have to install it
[10:28] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: Correct
[10:28] <aliasfred> sub java = sun java
[10:28] <DaSkreech> !java
[10:28] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:28] <aliasfred> good :)
[10:28] <DaSkreech> danny50010: Do you have multiverse?
[10:28] <diego_cl> DaSkreech: how do i use the script ?
[10:28] <danny50010> how do you turn off ubotu?
[10:28] <danny50010> multiverse???
[10:28] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: You can make it executable but it's probably better to run it with sudo sh ics.sh from the command line
[10:29] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > danny50010
[10:29] <DaSkreech> danny50010: read that :)
[10:29] <DaSkreech> Let me know if you have any problems with it
[10:29] <danny50010> o
[10:30] <diego_cl> DaSkreech: can you tell me the exact text I have to type in the console to install the script?
[10:30] <danny50010> google > DaSkreech
[10:30] <stoft> I just unrooted myself by mistake. Anyone have an idea how I readd myself to sudoers?
[10:30] <londondave> danny50010: if u did download it and you have java u'd type 'java -jar limewire.jar'
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> stoft: Recoverry mode
[10:30] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: Do you have the script on your computer?
[10:30] <diego_cl> yes
[10:30] <DaSkreech> ok what did you call it?
[10:30] <londondave> but frostwire is better
[10:30] <diego_cl> i downloaded it
[10:31] <stoft> h3sp4wn: ok, was thinking that might be the way to go, anything else I should know or is it fairly selfexplanatory?
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> cd
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> ls
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> c
[10:31] <londondave> so you could do 'sudo apt-get install frostwire'
[10:31] <diego_cl> DaSkreech: the script file could have any extension?
[10:31] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: yes
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> stoft: get in as root (from recovery console) and use visudo to readd yourself
[10:32] <stoft> h3sp4wn: ok, thnx
[10:32] <DaSkreech> :-(
[10:32] <DaSkreech> Pekay won't answer me
[10:33] <diego_cl> DaSkreech: when i type sudo sh ics.sh  on the console, i will install the script for ever?
[10:33] <yakov> hi
[10:33] <yakov> i cant find my PCI modem with kppp
[10:33] <yakov> i also have 2 serial ports
[10:34] <londondave> yakov: what modem do u have?
[10:34] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: Should
[10:34] <yakov> US Robotics
[10:34] <yakov> PCI modem
[10:34] <yakov> it is usually mapped to COM3 under windows
[10:34] <bipolar> is anyone using XGL in Kubuntu? I've been following the howtos, and it mostly seems to work. The only problem is that kde-window-decorator does not do a thing. So I have no window decorations. :\
[10:34] <gan|y|med> ciao
[10:35] <DaSkreech> bipolar: use gwd
[10:35] <londondave> yakov: this is for dial-up, what do u need it for?
[10:35] <bipolar> DaSkreech: so kwd is broken?
[10:35] <DaSkreech> bipolar: Cause kde-window-decorator doesn't do a thing :)
[10:35] <yakov> londondave, yes i want to dial up using it
[10:35] <DaSkreech> bipolar: I'd say ignored
[10:35] <bipolar> heh.... new version somewhere?
[10:35] <DaSkreech> bipolar: Kind of. use the gnome one for now
[10:37] <londondave> yakov: what device did u try in kppp
[10:37] <yakov> ttyS3, ttyS4
[10:37] <londondave> try ttyS2
[10:37] <diego_cl> DaSkreech: it says sintaxis error  ! !
[10:37] <londondave> but it's normally ttyS0
[10:38] <yakov> ok, how can i find packages for kubuntu6.06?
[10:38] <yakov> i want to download wvdial package from windows
[10:38] <yakov> could you pls help me
[10:38] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: where?
[10:38] <bipolar> DaSkreech: heh... working. ugly, but working :P
[10:38] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: that's all?
[10:38] <DaSkreech> bipolar: Yup
[10:38] <londondave> yakov: if it's a winmodem ur going to need the slmodem driver
[10:39] <londondave> !winmodem
[10:39] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[10:40] <diego_cl> diego@salita:~/Desktop/Script$ sudo sh ics.sh
[10:40] <diego_cl> : orden no encontrada
[10:40] <diego_cl> : orden no encontrada
[10:40] <diego_cl> 'cs.sh: line 23: error de sintaxis cerca de token no esperado `{
[10:40] <diego_cl> 'cs.sh: line 23: `function die() {
[10:40] <diego_cl> diego@salita:~/Desktop/Script$
[10:40] <diego_cl> DaSkreech: sorry, but i hace kubuntu in spanish
[10:40] <diego_cl> DaSkreech: im from chile
[10:40] <macconline> i need help, what it is: [506]  #ubuntu-es Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[10:41] <londondave> yakov normally u just use /dev/modem from the kppp drop down list and it should just work, if it's a winmodem, that means you need the smartlink modem driver
[10:41] <toma> macconline: you need to register if you keep on using irc
[10:42] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: That's fine
[10:42] <toma> macconline: type in the command between the () and follow those directions
[10:42] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: The computer can see the internet already right?
[10:42] <DaSkreech> !register > macconline
[10:42] <DaSkreech> Guess he got Limewire
[10:44] <macconline> toma: only !register > macconline  ???
[10:44] <Hawkwind> !register
[10:44] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:44] <Hawkwind> Read that
[10:45] <diego_cl> type  this          /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[10:45] <diego_cl> thats all, you only have to change <password> with your password
[10:46] <ubuntu> I'm installing Kubuntu again. But i can't select ReiserFS as my filesystem in the new graphical installer. Why's that?
[10:46] <londondave> because ext3 is better
[10:46] <macconline> diego_cl: ok, but say: NickServ- The nickname [macconline]  is not registered
[10:47] <Tommy2k4> you need to register before you can identify
[10:47] <bipolar> ubuntu: I *think* that you can only use reiserfs from the non-livecd installer
[10:47] <macconline> where register my user
[10:47] <Tommy2k4> !register
[10:47] <macconline> ??
[10:47] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:47] <Tommy2k4> read that page
[10:47] <macconline> ok,
[10:47] <jim> I downloaded wine and was wondering how to install it on my machine?
[10:47] <Tommy2k4> how did u dl it
[10:47] <ubuntu> londondave: Why's ext3 better? That's not my experience.
[10:48] <Tommy2k4> what file extension is it
[10:48] <diego_cl> DaSkreech: no, the other computer in windows xp cant explore the internet
[10:48] <jim> from sourceforge, and it has not shown up in synaptics or anywhere
[10:48] <diego_cl> DaSkreech: :(
[10:48] <londondave> ubuntu: it beats reiser on all benchmarks I have seen
[10:48] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:48] <ubuntu> londondave: LOL, i've seen the exact opposite...
[10:49] <ubuntu_> abattoir: are you there^
[10:49] <ubuntu> londondave: Besides, if i want somebody else to make those decisions for me, i would be using a Microsoft OS. ;)
[10:49] <londondave> i'm not sure i get ur point
[10:49] <ubuntu_> i need help, i am unable to boot
[10:50] <Johncro13> I'm unable to boot into Xorg!!!  I tried upgrading to edgy and got this error after running sudo apt-get upgrade.    libxdmcp6: Depends: x11-common (>1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is installed.  E: Unmet dependancies, etc...   Can anyone help me??
[10:50] <ubuntu_> i just installed kubuntu
[10:50] <ubuntu_> i am on the live cd now
[10:50] <ubuntu_> the installer is unable to make my disk bootable
[10:50] <ubuntu_> what should i do?
[10:51] <ubuntu> Is there a way to use the old installer with the Kubuntu 6.06 release?
[10:51] <jim> tommy the file xtension is .deb
[10:51] <londondave> Johncro13: try apt-get install -f
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Johncro13: Are you sure you should be upgrading to edgy?
[10:52] <DaSkreech> DeBert: try the alternate Cd
[10:52] <pierreth> ok, i have a name now
[10:52] <Johncro13> london, I did.  Skreech, too late.
[10:52] <DaSkreech> pierreth: Well done
[10:52] <pierreth> i am on a mac mini
[10:53] <Johncro13> unless you know of a way to go back...
[10:53] <londondave> Johncro13: did startx not work?
[10:53] <Johncro13> londondave, it did not.
[10:53] <DeBert> DaSkreech: I will. God, 3 minutes with that new installer, and i hate it already :)
[10:53] <pichi> cu
[10:53] <londondave> what error did you get
[10:53] <DaSkreech> :-)
[10:53] <stoft> thnx h3sp4wn, it worked (I had no doubt)
[10:53] <jim> how do i install a program with a .deb extension?
[10:54] <londondave> sudo dpkg -i package
[10:54] <DaSkreech> jim: Right click it in Konqueror you'll get an install option
[10:54] <Johncro13> no error.  Just empty loading bar and then nothing.
[10:54] <DaSkreech> or that :)
[10:54] <Johncro13> completely frozen.
[10:54] <OOD> jim: quick way, right click ->kubuntu package menu->install package
[10:54] <pierreth> DaSkreech: are you talking to me?
[10:55] <londondave> Johncro13: i had to install kubuntu twice, first time I had the same problem
[10:55] <DaSkreech> pierreth: No What's up?
[10:55] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: Ping :)
[10:55] <Johncro13> so... sudo dpkg -i...then what?
[10:55] <jim> where do I find kubuntu package menu, i have synaptics
[10:55] <pierreth> DaSkreech: i try to make my disk bootable
[10:55] <DaSkreech> pierreth: Ok what happened?
[10:55] <londondave> Johncro13: then it should install the package
[10:55] <DaSkreech> jim: Are you in KDE
[10:55] <stoft> Johncro13: shouldn't be anything after that. perhaps a question depending on what you're installing.
[10:56] <pierreth> DaSkreech: i just made an install of kubuntu
[10:56] <jim> i installed kde but how do i access it
[10:56] <pierreth> DaSkreech: the installer is unable to make my disk bootable
[10:56] <Johncro13> sudo dpkg -i x11-common?
[10:57] <londondave> thats it and it should install if there are no dependency problems
[10:57] <OOD> pierreth: you talking about the hard drive you installed kubuntu? make sure you're actually booting off that hard drive (in the bios)
[10:57] <|lostbyte|> How do i get those c++ header files ?
[10:57] <Johncro13> but the error states there are dependancy problems.
[10:57] <DaSkreech> Hmm What happends when you boot?
[10:57] <|lostbyte|> which package are they in..
[10:57] <Johncro13>  libxdmcp6: Depends: x11-common (>1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is installed.  E: Unmet dependancies, etc..
[10:57] <londondave> Johncro13: when u try to install with dpkg?
[10:57] <pierreth> OOD: i booted from the CD
[10:58] <DaSkreech> jim: do you have an auto login or do you put in a password?
[10:58] <jim> normal boot up it shows kubuntu on the boot screen
[10:58] <jim> i put in a password
[10:58] <pierreth> OOD: i want nothing but kubuntu on my drive
[10:58] <pierreth> OOD: i am on a mac mini
[10:58] <Johncro13> haven't tried it yet.  I unplugged the net cable so I could chat on my xp machine.
[10:58] <DaSkreech> jim: Ok in the sessions menu when you are putting in your password you can choose between KDE and Gnome
[10:58] <OOD> pierrath: ah, power pc or intel?
[10:59] <pierreth> OOD: powerpc
[10:59] <DaSkreech> OOD: You Mac aware?
[10:59] <jim> all i have is the user name and pasword then ok
[10:59] <pierreth> OOD: yes
[10:59] <OOD> no i don't know too much about macs
[10:59] <Johncro13> londondave, I'll try it and be right back.
[10:59] <pierreth> DaSkreech: Yes
[10:59] <OOD> but the powerpc build of ubuntu and kubuntu have some big problems i beleive
[11:00] <pierreth> OOD: it s ok!
[11:00] <DaSkreech> jim: I think it's F10 at the login screen
[11:00] <pierreth> OOD: you mean it is not working well?
[11:00] <jim> i will try it thank you if not i will be back
[11:00] <DaSkreech> jim: Look carefully :-) there should be a system menu and a sessions menu. Some
[11:01] <DaSkreech> jim: some of the login screens have them cleverly hidden
[11:01] <OOD> pierreth: take a look at this: http://ubuntuos.com/2006/07/imac-part-3#comments
[11:01] <pierreth> OOD: Ok
[11:01] <OOD> from what i get, he couldn't even install dapper on the mac
[11:02] <OOD> and had to install breezy and then upgrade to dapper
[11:04] <OOD> pierreth: maybe email him and ask what he did, since he got help from other people mailing him solutions
[11:04] <OOD> except he was installing ubuntu, and on a G3 imac i think
[11:05] <pierreth> OOD: we don t have the same problem
[11:05] <DeBert> Does anybody know when Kopete 0.12 will be in edgy? I would really like to try out the new jingle support.
[11:05] <intelikey> (==) Using config file: "/usr/share/slo1d3/xorg.conf"
[11:05] <intelikey> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[11:05] <intelikey> and then it shuts down.
[11:06] <pierreth> OOD: I ll try what i can
[11:06] <OOD> pierreth: did kubuntu install completely?
[11:07] <pierreth> OOD: i think so
[11:07] <intelikey> last error in .xsession-errors  was
[11:07] <intelikey> Warning: connect() failed: : Connection refused
[11:07] <intelikey> Error: Can't contact kdeinit!
[11:09] <abattoir> ugh, who pinged me? ubuntu_? are you still here? known as someone else?
[11:10] <abattoir> and which ubuntu_ are you? I've help 3 ubuntu_'s and 2 ubuntus today :P
[11:10] <abattoir> *helped
[11:11] <abattoir> pierreth: oh... ok, you are the mac mini ubuntu_ :P
[11:11] <ironfroggy> where can i get additional printer drivers?
[11:11] <unix_infidel> anyone here have experience with sennheisers warranty?
[11:11] <pierreth> abattoir: yes! :-)
[11:12] <abattoir> pierreth: it works?
[11:12] <pierreth> abattoir: it works now!
[11:12] <intelikey> trying to create local folder /root/share: Not a directory \nQSettings: error creating /root/.qt \ntrying to create local folder /root/socket-zeos486: Not a directory \nCould not register with DCOPServer. Aborting. \nstartkde: Shutting down... \nWarning: connect() failed: : Connection refused \nError: Can't contact kdeinit!   so kde can not run at all without  /root now !       (intelikey calls that a bug)
[11:12] <abattoir> no one here has kubuntu installed on their macs ?
[11:12] <abattoir> pierreth: oh, that's cool :)
[11:12] <pierreth> abattoir: but my disk is still now bootable :-(
[11:13] <abattoir> *not ?
[11:13] <pierreth> abattoir: i am using it now from the CD
[11:13] <DaSkreech> not
[11:13] <OOD> pierreth: it's possible that grub did not install to the mbr
[11:13] <MadRush> hey whats the psuedo package that gives me the compilers and make and all that good stuff
[11:13] <OOD> can you access the hard drive?
[11:13] <DaSkreech> !b-e
[11:13] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:13] <agentskippy> so, i'm hot off a fresh install of kubuntu here... and the apt repository doesn't have ANY packages in it. I'm coming from gentoo, like, I can't install xmms. it says it can't find it
[11:13] <abattoir> OOD: grub is installed for macs too?
[11:13] <abattoir> or is it yaboot?
[11:13] <OOD> isn't there a ppc version of grub too?
[11:13] <pierreth> OOD: No, there is no grub for the Mac, it is yaboot
[11:13] <OOD> ah ok
[11:14] <Ashex> my Kmenu is incomplete
[11:14] <Ashex> there are  bunch of menus that aren't visible
[11:14] <Ashex> but when i go to edit menu, they are in there
[11:14] <intelikey> MadRush build-essential
[11:14] <abattoir> pierreth: hmmm.... wait up then.... unless i fall back asleep :P
[11:14] <pierreth> abattoir: ok
[11:15] <OOD> Ashex: your Kmenu isn't incomplete
[11:15] <OOD> Ashex:youre seeing that because the additional categories are are empty
[11:15] <abattoir> pierreth: sorry, if i asked you this before, did you try installation? did it fail?
[11:15] <abattoir> pierreth: you got any error messages?
[11:15] <DaSkreech> agentskippy: Maybe add some repos?
[11:15] <proudfoot> !media
[11:15] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:15] <pierreth> abattoir: i have an error message at the end of the installation
[11:15] <Ashex> OOD, the debian menu should contain all the packages though. it does on my 32-bit :/
[11:15] <proudfoot> !codecs
[11:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:16] <abattoir> pierreth: aah, can you pastebin it ?
[11:16] <abattoir> !pastebin > pierreth
[11:16] <pierreth> abattoir: yes, give me the link to do so, ok?
[11:16] <OOD> Ashex: i didn't even have the debian menu t'ill i installed fluxbox
[11:16] <agentskippy> DaSkreech: where can I find a list of repositories? I'm only used to the emerge package system, sorry =/
[11:17] <abattoir> pierreth: i gave you... :P
[11:17] <abattoir> !paste
[11:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:17] <intelikey> odd that root cant run kde.
[11:17] <DaSkreech> !repositories > agentskippy
[11:18] <DaSkreech> agentskippy: There you go
[11:18] <OOD> intelikey: root can run kde, root can run anything, just that the root account has been disabled in ubuntu
[11:18] <agentskippy> DaSkreech: excellent, thank you very much
[11:18] <intelikey> OOD not without /root   dke wont run.
[11:18] <pierreth> abattoir: ok, it is done now
[11:18] <intelikey> err kde
[11:19] <abattoir> pierreth: the link ?
[11:19] <wolfmanz_> Is there a way or a program i can get to make it so when i click on a icon i connect to my lan connection and if i click it again i dissconnect from the lan connection?
[11:19] <pierreth> abattoir: what do you mean? i used the link...
[11:20] <abattoir> pierreth: nvm,i'll check it out
[11:20] <intelikey> OOD i would have thought that kde would use roots home, where ever it was.  but the (/root as swap dir) bug in kde prevents it from running.
[11:20] <abattoir> pierreth: you are supposed to give the link back here :)
[11:20] <pierreth> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18542
[11:21] <pierreth> abattoir: sorry
[11:21] <abattoir> pierreth: nvm, i'm there already :)
[11:21] <Ashex> anyone have splashy on 64-bit?
[11:21] <abattoir> wait....
[11:21] <Johncro14> hello?
[11:21] <abattoir> pierreth: and what does /var/log/installer/syslog  say?
[11:22] <Johncro14> I'm back.
[11:22] <DaSkreech> Johncro14: How many of them are you?
[11:22] <Johncro14> a million.
[11:22] <intelikey> hello's not here right now can i take a message
[11:22] <intelikey> :)
[11:22] <DaSkreech> That's going to be an annoying nick to type out :(
[11:22] <Johncro14> where's londondave?
[11:23] <abattoir> pierreth: can you paste the link in #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:24] <wolfmanz_> Is there a way or a program i can get to make it so when i click on a icon i connect to my lan connection and if i click it again i dissconnect from the lan connection?
[11:24] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Take it you were monitoring k-dev?
[11:24] <abattoir> DaSkreech: yes :)
[11:25] <Johncro14> I ran the dpkg -i package.  error is as follows.         dpkg: error processing x11-common_1%3a7.0.22ubuntu6_i386.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1  Errors were encountered while processing x11-common, etc, etc...
[11:25] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz_: Not off the top of my head
[11:25] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz_: There is a Network icon you cna add to the panel
[11:25] <DaSkreech> wolfmanz_: You can disable it from there
[11:25] <intelikey> so i guess i'll fall back to twm until they patch kde so that it doesn't use /root as it's swap dir for all verable data.
[11:26] <Johncro14> any ideas?
[11:26] <||Trayer||>  Anyone know how to set it so I have root powers on my account? (Trayer).  To install a patch I need to copy files to a folder I "Dont have permission" to, (I'm computer owned and administrator, yesss)
[11:27] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: you mean you dont want to enter a password every time you sudo ?
[11:27] <pierreth> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18543
[11:27] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: Yep, and I wanna make it so I can use ark to copy the files from a tar.bz2 without needing to run sudo throuhg the commandline
[11:27] <abattoir> pierreth: could you also post that at #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:27] <intelikey> johncro## look a little higher on the screen at what the actual error was...
[11:27] <abattoir> apparently there are people there who know about macs... and kubuntu
[11:28] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: /etc/sudoers is the file, open it up
[11:28] <stoft> ||Trayer||: use "visudo" to do so securely
[11:28] <Johncro14> rmdir: usr/X11R6/bin directory not empty?  That's the error?
[11:28] <pierreth> abattoir: done
[11:29] <||Trayer||>  abattoir: Alright, one second
[11:29] <intelikey> ||Trayer|| you could always just run as root.  then you don't have any restrictions....   or any security...
[11:29] <Ender1024> hhi
[11:29] <||Trayer||>  How would one run as root?
[11:30] <ironfroggy> im trying to set up a printer, and its drivers are installed, but set to the usb port when i would prefer to use the network. the instructions i have say to go into "Modify Printer" to fix that, but i dont see any such options.
[11:30] <stoft> ||Trayer||: sudo -s -H
[11:30] <stoft> or you can enable root password
[11:30] <abattoir> ||Trayer||: or execute sudo visudo
[11:30] <Johncro14> intelikey...serious?
[11:30] <intelikey> Johncro14  no there should be another one.  that one wont generally kill a configuration script.
[11:30] <Johncro14> nope.
[11:30] <Johncro14> that's all.
[11:30] <intelikey> Johncro14 yes.
[11:31] <stoft> ||Trayer||: sudo -s -H will give you a root session until you 'exit'
[11:31] <intelikey> hmmmm odd
[11:31] <Ender1024> what is sudo use for?
[11:31] <||Trayer||>  I did a sudo -s -H Then a visudo.  What do I change in visudo?
[11:31] <Johncro14> I know.
[11:31] <Johncro14> and you can just call me John.
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> ||Trayer||: Use sudo -i not sudo -s for that
[11:31] <intelikey> Johncro14 you can safely rm that dir.
[11:31] <intelikey> then try the install again.
[11:31] <||Trayer||> sudo -i does what?
[11:31] <stoft> ||Trayer||: depends on what you want. sudo -s -H will give you a root session. visudo will give you the possibility to edit the sudoer file so you won't need to enter a password when you do "sudo"
[11:32] <h3sp4wn> ||Trayer||: Similar to sudo -s - but safer
[11:32] <||Trayer||>  I understand.  Is there any way to make it so I automatically have root powers? Like, moving myself into a user group named root?
[11:32] <intelikey> Johncro14 the only thing i show in there by default is "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2006-07-21 02:51 X -> ../../bin/X "
[11:32] <ironfroggy> what rights does a user need to modify printer configurations?
[11:32] <intelikey> one symlink
[11:33] <toma> ||Trayer||: there is no need to do so
[11:34] <intelikey> ironfroggy being in cupsys group might be enough... not sure.
[11:34] <||Trayer||>  So, I so a sudo -s -H to gain a root session, though, is there any way to make it so I stay in root next time I log on?
[11:34] <toma> ||Trayer||: why?
[11:34] <macd> ||Trayer||: Thats not really recommended, why would you want to?
[11:34] <ironfroggy> intelikey: i have no such group
[11:34] <ironfroggy> intelikey: i have a cupsys _user_ tho
[11:35] <||Trayer||>  Just for convienience
[11:35] <intelikey> ||Trayer|| only if you add a command in an init script.
[11:35] <stoft> ||Trayer||: login as root? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_set.2Fchange.2Fenable_root_user_password
[11:35] <Johncro14> I removed the directory.  I'm going to reboot and see if that did it.
[11:35] <macd> ||Trayer||: are you aware thats not safe?
[11:36] <toma> ||Trayer||: just use sudo whenever you need to... it works and is safe.
[11:36] <wolfmanz_> DaSkreech where do i find that network icon at ?
[11:36] <ranunculoid> How big is the kubuntu kernel?
[11:36] <||Trayer||>  Safe as in what kind?
[11:36] <macd> safe as i NOT.
[11:36] <||Trayer||>  What is "Dangerous" persay about logging on as root?
[11:36] <macd> ircing.
[11:36] <macd> browsing the web
[11:36] <stoft> ||Trayer||: besides up-ing the possibility of hosing your system more often.
[11:36] <intelikey> toma sudo is safe ?
[11:37] <ranunculoid> ||Trayer||: You might as well be in windoze ;)
[11:37] <macd> safer than su ;P
[11:37] <toma> ||Trayer||: that you are less likely to remove data you dont want to remove
[11:37] <r0xz> ||Trayer||: system wide permission when not needed is a no-no
[11:37] <||Trayer||>  Also, how would one make a folder so you have writing permission?.  I need to copy folders to a folder without write permission
[11:37] <toma> intelikey: no, but that you type explicitly
[11:37] <macd> forget protecting users from thier own ignorance, its just not a good idea.
[11:37] <stoft> man chmod
[11:38] <stoft> ||Trayer||: it depends on where the folders are
[11:38] <intelikey> yep loging in as root is the  M$ windows of the *nix world.
[11:38] <||Trayer||>  Located in /usr/local/games/ut2004
[11:38] <macd> ||Trayer||: then run your file manager with kdesu or gksudo.
[11:38] <Johncro14> no dice.
[11:39] <ranunculoid> So how big is the kubuntu kernel can someone tell me? Can someone check the filesize of /boot/vmlinuzetcetc for me please?
[11:39] <intelikey> Johncro14 what's it saying now ?
[11:39] <Johncro14> I went and dried non-recovery mode.  I'm back to frozen.
[11:39] <||Trayer||>  How do I do that? gksudo konquerer?
[11:39] <stoft> 1,4M
[11:39] <macd> ranunculoid: 1517306bytes.
[11:39] <Johncro14> I saluted it.
[11:40] <ranunculoid> stoft: woah that's pretty small
[11:40] <macd> ||Trayer||: kdesu konquerer
[11:40] <intelikey> oh it did install ok tho ?
[11:40] <Johncro14> It appeared to...
[11:40] <macd> hi there intelikey btw.
[11:40] <||Trayer||> konquerer not found, is konquerer the command to bring it up?
[11:40] <macd> no.
[11:40] <||Trayer||>  *^
[11:41] <intelikey> Johncro14 reconfig xorg ?
[11:41] <Johncro14> what's the command?
[11:41] <intelikey> macd
[11:41] <macd> ||Trayer||: are you familiar with Konsole?
[11:41] <intelikey> konqueror  is the executables name   yes.
[11:42] <Johncro14> just vi xorg.config?
[11:42] <||Trayer||>  Not very.  I know abit of how to use it, such as navigate run .debs unpack stuff etc
[11:42] <macd> however it wont run... without including the entire path.
[11:42] <Hawkwind> sudo vi xorg.conf actually
[11:42] <intelikey> Johncro14  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:42] <Hawkwind> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf actually :P
[11:43] <||Trayer||>  So how would I launch konquerer in kdesu?
[11:43] <intelikey> Johncro14 if you want to edit it by hand  use that ^   else use the  dpkg-reconfigure line.
[11:43] <Johncro14> Xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed.
[11:43] <wolfmanz_> Is there a way or a program i can get to make it so when i click on a icon i connect to my lan connection and if i click it again i dissconnect from the lan connection?
[11:43] <intelikey> ||Trayer|| "kdesu konqueror "
 in kubuntu, you don't directly run as root, you use the sudo command (before any other command) to acuire temporary root privelages
[11:44] <||Trayer||>  I'm in a root session right now
[11:44] <intelikey> ah Johncro14 now you are getting some where.     try this.    sudo apt-get install -f
[11:44] <macd> ||Trayer||: then you dont need to run as kdesu, if your already root.
[11:44] <Johncro14> I have to be connected to the internet for that.
[11:45] <intelikey> :)
[11:45] <Johncro14> I'll be back.
[11:45] <macd> !root
[11:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:45] <Johncro14> becore I go, though, I should type apt-get install -f xorg?
[11:45] <Johncro14> because I've done apt-get install -f before with no luck.
[11:45] <macd> ||Trayer||: my suggestion to you is to run as your normal user, when you need to move files b/t directories you dont have write access to, simply 'sudo cp /path/to/file /destination/to/file
[11:46] <intelikey> root is the 'super-user' of the *nix world.   every linux system has the user "root" on it.
[11:46] <coachJ> wolfman did you ever get an answer
[11:46] <wolfmanz_> no
[11:46] <||Trayer||>  Kk
[11:46] <coachJ> i would like to know that too
[11:46] <intelikey> Johncro14 you can try both.
[11:47] <intelikey> Johncro14 gennerally without any package name.     sudo apt-get install -f         and watch for errors.
[11:47] <Johncro14> okay.
 Is there a way or a program i can get to make it so when ...  man script it.
[11:50] <stoft> wolfmanz_: not having tried... my guess is you could hook up an icon to a script that does ifup/ifdown. not sure about grants etc. though.
[11:50] <wolfmanz_> intelikey if i could do that i wouldnt be here asking how to do it lol
[11:50] <haldor> Hi people. how can I get sound to work with flash using konquerer?
[11:50] <intelikey> wolfmanz_  open a terminal and an editor.   in the term  test the commands that you need to do the work and put them in the editor.   use an 'if' startment to let the script deside if it should run the connect command or the dis-connect command.    if pidof blah ;then disconnect ;else connect ;fi   <-- example.
[11:50] <Blissex> haldor: very relunctantly :-)
[11:51] <haldor> blissex: buggar because firefox keeps crashing on certaoin sites where konquerer is stable but no sound :(
[11:51] <stoft> haldor, have you installed a java-plugin in firefox recently?
[11:51] <intelikey> wolfmanz_ any thing you can do from the command line you can put in a script.
[11:51] <intelikey> plus some.
[11:52] <Blissex> haldor: there are ways and ways though...
[11:52] <ironfroggy> how do i configure the print server in kde? it asks me for roots password, of which there is none.
[11:52] <intelikey> or is it  plus sum
[11:52] <haldor> stoft: well just installed a heap of stuff. fresh to ubuntu a week now and well just loaded up on things items
[11:52] <Blissex> haldor: the basic problem is that Flash uses OSS emulation and that does not support sharing the card. All solutions are somewhat painful.
[11:53] <Blissex> haldor: have a look at the OSS and sharing and Flash sections of http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html
[11:53] <haldor> blissex: pkay will just live without those sites. not a biggie
[11:54] <stoft> haldor, check if you have java5 plugin installed in firefox and try removing it (don't ask me how, friend had the problem, not me). the java plugin is apparently a bit buggy.
[11:55] <stoft> haldor: try dpkg -l |grep java5
[11:55] <stoft> to see if it's installed
[11:56] <stoft> haldor: if it's installed, try sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-plugin
[11:56] <gatekeeper> stoft: haldor about:plugins where you write the url in Firefox
[11:56] <haldor> stoft: nope nothing returned there
[11:56] <intelikey> wolfmanz_ one example might be this; (using \n as line breaks)    #!/bin/sh \nif ifconfig | grep eth0 >/dev/null 2>&1 \n    then ifconfig eth0 down \n    else ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.12 up \n fi              that would start the ethernet connection on a local network or kill the connection depending on the start it was in.   but you can get much more specific help on that topic by providing more information on your specif
[11:57] <stoft> ok, then I have no idea why your firefox is crashing. sry
[11:57] <intelikey> s/start/state/
[11:58] <haldor> stoft: thats alright not a huge issue. thanks for the help though. still learning about linux and loving it
[11:58] <intelikey> !cli
[11:58] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:58] <intelikey> linux' real strength ^
[11:59] <user-land> who maintains a ubuntu repository for applications not complying with open source licences ?
[12:00] <Blissex> user-land: the Ubuntu project!
[12:01] <AppleSux> i have a problem with AmaroK .. anyone able to help?
[12:01] <orey> what the prob
[12:01] <Blissex> AppleSux: #amaroK perhaps?
[12:01] <AppleSux> hey orey - I click on anything like mp3/ogg/etc. and Amarok says playlist ended and just stops and plays no output. VLC works fine
[12:02] <stoft> AppleSux: same file as vlc?
[12:02] <orey> what distro are you using
[12:02] <AppleSux> stoft - yes. kubuntu 6
[12:02] <Blissex> AppleSux: check the restrictired formats page on the Wiki
[12:02] <AppleSux> stoft - yes. kubuntu 6 patched as of today
[12:03] <Blissex> !restricted
[12:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:03] <AppleSux> blissex - done that
[12:03] <orey> you have to download a package to get package to be able to play
[12:03] <Blissex> AppleSux: then you need to restart KDE...
[12:03] <AppleSux> orey - already did that and loaded everything i need =( still not working
[12:04] <Blissex> AppleSux: then  you are _doooooooooomed_. :-)
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> AppleSux: You don't need to restart kde
[12:04] <AppleSux> maybe i will just use VLC
[12:04] <orey> hmmm try a different player
[12:04] <orey> or
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> AppleSux: What exactly is wrong with it ?
[12:04] <Blissex> AppleSux: open a Konsole and start 'amarok' from the command line, it will print error messages saying what is going on.
[12:04] <orey> upgrade amarok
[12:04] <AppleSux> it doesnt play anything but says - playlist ended
[12:05] <slow-motion> n8
[12:05] <AppleSux> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:05] <AppleSux>   Major opcode:  145
[12:05] <AppleSux>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:05] <AppleSux>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:05] <AppleSux> Failed to open device
[12:05] <AppleSux> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:05] <AppleSux>   Major opcode:  145
[12:05] <AppleSux>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:05] <AppleSux>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:05] <AppleSux> Failed to open device
[12:05] <AppleSux> amaroK: [Loader]  Starting amarokapp..
[12:05] <AppleSux> amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[12:06] <AppleSux> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:06] <AppleSux>   Major opcode:  145
[12:06] <AppleSux>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:06] <AppleSux>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:06] <AppleSux> Failed to open device
[12:06] <AppleSux> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:06] <AppleSux>   Major opcode:  145
[12:06] <AppleSux>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:06] <AppleSux>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:06] <AppleSux> Failed to open device
[12:06] <AppleSux> QLayout: Adding KToolBar/mainToolBar (child of QVBox/unnamed) to layout for PlaylistWindow/PlaylistWindow
[12:06] <AppleSux> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[12:06] <AppleSux> sorry... too much output........ =(
[12:06] <AppleSux> any ideas anyone?
[12:06] <stoft> I think you've got the wrong sound device configured in amarok
[12:07] <AppleSux> stoft - where do i change that?
[12:07] <AppleSux> stoft - where do i change that? is it in engine settings?
[12:07] <stoft> checkout the FAQ as well: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[12:07] <user-land> blissex, i need this:
[12:07] <user-land> http://wiki.videolan.org/index.php/Common_Problems#AMR