[12:15] <nixternal> bah jenda ;)
[12:15] <nixternal> welcome back
[12:16] <MenZa> sup jenda
[12:16] <jenda> thanks :)
[12:16] <jenda> just back for two days
[12:16] <jenda> nixternal: was about to ask why the Ubuntu magazine ToDo is away from the MT ToDo wiki...
[12:17] <nixternal> hehe
[12:17] <nixternal> because the magazine is /UbuntuMagazine
[12:17] <jenda> I'd like them to be in one, so that people looking for work would see the entire list on one page
[12:17] <nixternal> so I put it under that
[12:17] <jenda> Mistake number 1 :)
[12:17] <jenda> I believe it should be moved under /MarketingTeam/
[12:18] <nixternal> truthfully...i think the main directory should fall under /Marketing    and then have /MarketingTeam for team stuff, and UbuntuMagazine and what not...utilizing /Marketing as the main Project wiki page
[12:18] <jenda> But it's just an opinion. However, it is a project of the MT, and all the others are...
[12:18] <MenZa> jenda: when you transfer the money, include your address and I'll send them as soon as I can get around to it (prolly mon or tuesday)
[12:18] <jenda> nixternal: you are the wiki manager :)
[12:18] <nixternal> you know what im saying....have all marketing related stuff on a marketing page, and team related stuff on a team page...i don't know..im just brainfarting out loud ;)
[12:18] <jenda> MenZa: OK, but it'll take me a long time to get the money. I only just ordered the stickers, and I'll be leaving for three weeks.
[12:19] <MenZa> jenda: ouch :<
[12:19] <MenZa> jenda: right, I'm gonna transfer them when I get the time, prolly next week
[12:19] <MenZa> I trust you ;)
[12:19] <jenda> nixternal: In that case, we should have /Marketing/* including /Spreadubuntu/ ; /UbuntuMagazine/ ; /Team/ ; /MediaRelations/
[12:20] <nixternal> yes
[12:20] <nixternal> i like it
[12:20] <nixternal> someone actually understood me ;)
[12:20] <nixternal> i gotta get the UWN out by saturday, then im going on a "wiki" attack for us
[12:21] <nixternal> depending on how long the UWN takes, which should truthfully only be a solid few hours of work..i will start hitting /Marketing hardcore
[12:21] <jenda> Great :)
[12:22] <nixternal> im gonna go fetch a pizza..i shall return in a little bit ;)
[12:22] <jenda> MenZa: Thank you. I promise the first $25 on my paypal are yours.
[12:22] <MenZa> ^^
[12:22] <jenda> BTW, I'll be sending the stickers out before folk pay me too.
[12:22] <jenda> folks)
[12:23] <jenda> Wow, my launchpad karma whooped up to 30k :)
[12:24] <jenda> Anyway, I'll be off to bed.
[12:25] <jenda> MenZa: BTW, I can't withdraw money from paypal here in the Czech Republic :) So it wasn't really worth it for me to add a bank account to my pp account, so I don't have any money on there till the stickers are paid for.
[12:25] <MenZa> lol
[12:30] <jenda> OK, good night.
[12:49] <adamant1988> hello all
[09:09] <Madpilot> so, what's with the whinging on the marketing ML about "you can't do that, it's my idea, and I own it, even though I haven't done anything about it!"
[09:13] <mdke> ouch, i haven't seen that yet
[09:14] <Burgundavia> mdke: check the thread with the case studies by our new canoncal man, chris
[09:14] <Madpilot> the "Do You Ubuntu..." thread
[09:16] <mdke> Chris is a good guy
[09:16] <mdke> I'll read the thread from work
[09:16] <Burgundavia> you met him>
[09:16] <Burgundavia> ?
[09:17] <mdke> yes, I met him last week
[09:17] <mdke> nice guy
[09:17] <Burgundavia> what is his position within canonical?
[09:17] <mdke> I don't know the title of his job, but basically marketing, afaics
[11:47] <jenda> hello stefg, zard1989
[12:08] <jenda> HEY!
[12:08] <jenda> Marketing People!
[12:09] <jenda> I'd like you all to have a look at the spreadubuntu designs on the wiki:
[12:12] <ormiret> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu/GraphicalDesignSpec
[12:13] <jenda> exactly, was getting there :)
[12:13] <jenda> my attention swayed... didn't think anyone was reading. Thanks 
[12:13] <jenda> Anyway:
[12:14] <jenda> At tomorrows meeting, i'd like to choose a designer for the final design
[12:15] <ormiret> :)
[12:15] <mdke> a single designer?
[12:15] <jenda> Based on those previews...
[12:15] <jenda> mdke: you don't think it's a good idea? I'd like someone to put it together - with or without help from others
[12:16] <jenda> I won't be here for three weeks.
[12:16] <ormiret> I think a team would be better since we've obviously got a load of people interested
[12:16] <mdke> I don't know, I haven't really thought about it much. The team thinks it will be difficult to work in a group on that?
[12:17] <jenda> Maybe not.
[12:17] <jenda> But I won't be here to resolve any troubles that arise.
[12:17] <jenda> If any do, that is.
[12:18] <mdke> you don't feel that the team can resolve I think troubles should be resolved as a team anyway
[12:18] <mdke> argh, that came out wrong
[12:19] <mdke> "I think troubles should be resolved as a team anyway"
[12:22] <jenda> I know what you mean - but I am quite sure that if I just throw it out in the air, it won't be done by the time I'm back.
[12:22] <mdke> who is interested on working on it? everyone who submitted a design?
[12:23] <mdke> and are we talking about a design, or implementation?
[12:23] <jenda> So if there's a single person who pushes it and tries to have it done by that time so we can start writing content, it would be more effective, I think. BTW I totally failed at getting the wiki ready for others to work on. Not enough time.
[12:23] <jenda> mdke: just graphical designs
[12:23] <mdke> right
[12:23] <jenda> s/plural/singular/
[12:24] <mdke> good, because it seems to me that the structure of the website hasn't been totally worked out yet... there were a lot of overlaps in the flow chart thing with other ubuntu sites, like www.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <mdke> what is the time frame for that to be discussed?
[12:26] <jenda> till around mid-august, I'd imagine.
[12:27] <jenda> As soon as I come back, I'll try to finalise the structure. Mind - I don't mind slight content-overlap. In quite a few cases, the content might be similar, but the form needs to be different for u.c and s.u.c
[12:28] <mdke> well, personally I'd like to see integration with ubuntu.com rather than overlap, and I noted that a few people on the mailing list seem to agree
[12:29] <ormiret> I agree with mdke here: SU is a big enough project without duplicating stuff that already exists.
[12:29] <jenda> I agree too - whenever possible, links will lead to u.c (for example the screenshot section)
[12:31] <ormiret> jenda: can you put a mail to the list reminding about the meeting (save me having to look up when it is)
[12:32] <jenda> Sure, please do.
[12:33] <ormiret> no, this idea was you do it :)
[12:37] <ormiret> is there an agenda?
[12:37] <ormiret> (I stoppped being so lazy and started writing the mail)
[12:38] <jenda> ormiret: Aha :-D
[12:39] <jenda> Sorry, I missed that.
[12:39] <ormiret> :)
[12:40] <ormiret> is there an agenda though? (I can't find one)
[12:43] <jenda> lemme have a look
[01:02] <jenda> ormiret: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings
[01:02] <jenda> THere's our agenda :-D
[01:04] <ormiret> cheers
[01:08] <jenda> mdke: if we decided to re-use u.c resources (such as screenshots and the FAQ), how would we be able to customize and improve these, as a part of marketing Ubuntu?
[01:19] <mdke> jenda: filing bug reports...
[01:19] <mdke> the faq is a total nightmare right now, it needs a serious rehaul
[01:19] <jenda> OK
[01:20] <jenda> Yes, it does. I recently filed a bug.
[01:20] <mdke> I'd like to strip out documentation and move it to the help website, leaving the faq for "about ubuntu" type questions
[01:20] <jenda> But I meant a more creative aproach, like adding content - bugs too?
[01:20] <mdke> yeah sure. Include the content you think is suitable
[01:20] <jenda> Yes, that makes sense.
[01:20] <jenda> OK
[01:21] <mdke> I'm hoping that the website can benefit a lot more from community ideas
[01:21] <mdke> we just got a new webmaster, so things are already starting to move faster
[01:41] <jenda> OK, mdke thanks for the ideas - implanted in my brain now :)
[01:46] <mdke> jenda: np
[06:51] <Klaidas> kewl address
[06:54] <nixternal> hahah
[06:54] <MenZa> Indeed.
[06:54] <nixternal> wrong.domain.name
[06:54] <nixternal> i like that
[06:56] <Klaidas> hmm, wonder if could get mine to be i=admin@klaidas.tinkle.lt
[06:59] <MenZa> Klaidas: talk to your isp :p
[06:59] <Klaidas> hehe ;)
[07:00] <Klaidas> I mean, wonder if could just sit here doing almost nothing and get that thing to work like i want :D
[08:39] <Klaidas> Maketing meeting today? o_O
[08:39] <Klaidas> I thought they were arranged every 2 weeks
[10:30] <nixternal> THAT IS HOW A MEETING SHOULD GO
[10:30] <nixternal> great job everyone!!!!!
[10:31] <nixternal> we had discussion, debate, some sarcasm...i love it
[10:31] <bimberi> lol
[10:32] <jenda> Hehe :)
[10:32] <jenda> Yes, I'm happy... now to contact nestor.
[10:33] <jenda> BTW, I'll quote a bit of an email that he sent me:
[10:33] <jenda> "I am thinking in something more like a presentation, a bit different (and
[10:33] <jenda> maybe a bit difficult to implement) but anyway, I think the Balloons Idea is
[10:33] <jenda> a good one and I would like to share them with the team.
[10:33] <jenda> "Which one is the best way to spread news?: mouth to mouth, indeed""
[10:35] <jenda> bimberi: are you working on the minutes?
[10:36] <bimberi> jenda: yes, shortly
[10:37] <jenda> bimberi: this might be of help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18539
[10:37] <jenda> bimberi, nixternal do you guys have jabber IDs?
[10:37] <jenda> nixternal, BTW, nice cloak :)
[10:38] <nixternal> nixternal@gmail.com   &   nixternal@jabber.kubuntu.de
[10:38] <bimberi> jenda: yep, bimberi@jabber.org - don't use it much tho
[10:39] <jenda> thanks, will add you both. comes in handy at times.
[10:39] <bimberi> what's the advantage - being able to see if someone is available?
[10:39] <bimberi> jenda: thanks for the pastebin btw :)
[10:40] <jenda> For one thing, but I can imagine a situation when I can't find you on freenode... because, for example, you are hiding on OFTC, and need to talk to you...
[10:40] <jenda> no prob :)
[10:40] <bimberi> lol (@ hiding)
[11:11] <jenda> hello jbrouhard, poningru, SDPlissken
[11:11] <jenda> poningru: Any news about media relations?
[11:11] <SDPlissken> Hello Jenda
[11:12] <jbrouhard> hello, jenda
[11:12] <jenda> :)
[11:23] <poningru> hey