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| crimsun | hmm, who was packaging midisport-firmware again? | 01:40 |
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| crimsun | we need to modify this packaging | 01:40 |
| Toadstool | crimsun: do the buildds use dash as a shell? | 01:45 |
| crimsun | Toadstool: yes. | 01:50 |
| Toadstool | 'cause there's a bashism in cdbs/python-distutils.mk... | 01:50 |
| crimsun | fun, needs to be fixed :-) | 01:51 |
| Toadstool | bug 53563 | 01:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 53563 in cdbs "[Edgy] Bashism in python-distutils.mk" [Low,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53563 | 01:51 |
| ajmitch | morning | 01:51 |
| Toadstool | hi ajmitch | 01:51 |
| === ajmitch wishes people wouldn't try & ping me at 4AM on consecutive days & expect an answer | ||
| Toadstool | g'night everybody | 01:55 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:23 |
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| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 02:35 |
| === sladen pings ajmitch at 4am (local time) | ||
| ajmitch | sladen: there always has to be one.. | 02:38 |
| sladen | it's actually 01:39, so cheating by a couple of hours---not sure I was going to be awake much later | 02:39 |
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| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 02:52 |
| LaserJock | heh, somtimes I'm amazed at how low tech science can be | 02:54 |
| LaserJock | I just got done measuring the width of a laser beam with a sewing needle and some foam :-) | 02:54 |
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| zul | hi | 02:55 |
| ajmitch | hello zul | 02:57 |
| zul | hi andrew how goes it? | 02:57 |
| bddebian | Heya zul | 03:00 |
| ajmitch | good, how are you? | 03:00 |
| zul | hey bddebian | 03:00 |
| zul | good | 03:00 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: You around? | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | ok... | 03:06 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: ? | 03:07 |
| bddebian | I love packages that build-dep python, etc then use /foo/bar/python2.3 in rules | 03:12 |
| bddebian | And I love talking to myself | 03:13 |
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| zul | hmmm.. | 03:29 |
| zul | if i could only seppl the world would be a happier place | 03:34 |
| bddebian | seppl? | 03:37 |
| zul | see | 03:37 |
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| Cornellius | Is e17 in the repositories ? | 03:41 |
| Cornellius | Or is it e16.9 ? | 03:41 |
| zul | which repositories are you talkinb about | 03:41 |
| h3sp4wn | Is anything happening about ebuntu ? | 03:45 |
| h3sp4wn | (for edgy ?) | 03:45 |
| === bddebian bets #edubuntu would know ;-) | ||
| ajmitch | bddebian: ebuntu, not edubuntu | 03:46 |
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| bddebian | Oh | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | ask the ebuntu person if you see him round | 03:46 |
| bddebian | WTF is ebuntu? | 03:46 |
| h3sp4wn | Do you know his nick ? | 03:46 |
| micahcowan | bddebian: educational ubuntu | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: google would tell you | 03:46 |
| micahcowan | or, no... | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | micahcowan: no, that's different | 03:46 |
| micahcowan | that's edubuntu, in'it? | 03:46 |
| bddebian | aye | 03:46 |
| h3sp4wn | ebuntu is ubuntu with e-17 | 03:47 |
| bddebian | Ah | 03:47 |
| h3sp4wn | (according to the spec) | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | it was never anything more than a bunch of checkinstall-created packages | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | h3sp4wn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Manishchakravarty | 03:47 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Oh sure, give him a URL and tell me to google, thanks honey :-) | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: the *first* hit for ebuntu is the wiki page | 03:48 |
| h3sp4wn | ajmitch: That seems silly as in the e-17 cvs it already has debian/rules for most of the packages | 03:49 |
| zul | doesnt mean the debian/rules is any good | 03:49 |
| h3sp4wn | It was done by the debian e-17 maintainers | 03:49 |
| h3sp4wn | dunno how good they are | 03:49 |
| h3sp4wn | Right I will e-mail the guy incharge of it | 03:50 |
| h3sp4wn | Thanks alot | 03:50 |
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| h3sp4wn | What right now ? | 03:52 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 04:01 |
| ajmitch | barely morning | 04:01 |
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| Hobbsee | hush, you! | 04:02 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 04:04 |
| bddebian | crimsun: around? | 04:19 |
| bddebian | heh@ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=372649 | 04:27 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 372649 in ivtools "Subject: ivtools: FTBFS: dh_movefiles: debian/tmp/usr/lib/libIV.so.1 not found" [Serious,Open] | 04:27 |
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| bddebian | Ack what a crackful "fix" for ivtools in Debian | 04:34 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: hi | 05:34 |
| bddebian | Heya crimsun | 05:34 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: you pinged earlier? | 05:34 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Yeah, I was hoping you could help me but I think I may head to bed.. | 05:35 |
| crimsun | ok | 05:35 |
| bddebian | crimsun: That ivtools "fix" in Debian is crack.. WTF? | 05:35 |
| crimsun | heh | 05:38 |
| bddebian | Read the last entry of the bug I pasted earlier if you get a sec :-) | 05:38 |
| crimsun | yeah, read that yesterday | 05:39 |
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| crimsun | I need to figure out why none of the symlinks are being created properly | 05:39 |
| crimsun | getting it to build is not a problem, but the libs are pretty nastly (read: useless) without the proper symlinks | 05:40 |
| crimsun | nasty ^ | 05:40 |
| crimsun | oh wait, I wonder if this is autoconf fsckage | 05:40 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: Shouldn't it be fixed to not build in /usr/lib/X11R6 at all? | 05:51 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: I've done that locally | 05:53 |
| bddebian | Ah | 05:53 |
| ajmitch | hi crimsun | 05:56 |
| crimsun | hi ajmitch | 05:56 |
| fowlduck | hi | 05:57 |
| fowlduck | hey, i'm trying to use my gpg key on another computer, I transfered the .gnupg directory, set and exported the GPGKEY environment variable, started gpg-agent, what do I lack? | 05:58 |
| Laser_away | gpg? :-) | 06:00 |
| fowlduck | gnupg? | 06:00 |
| === fowlduck thinks laser is messin with him | ||
| Laser_away | well, it's sort of an obvious problem, but that kind of thing happends | 06:01 |
| fowlduck | obvious to everyone? | 06:02 |
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| Laser_away | bddebian: thanks for the MOTU Science work | 06:02 |
| === fowlduck feels dumb :/ | ||
| bddebian | fowlduck: Do you have gpg installed? | 06:02 |
| fowlduck | yep | 06:03 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: NP. Now, where do I get one of those mentors anyway? :-) | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: no, what I was saying was it's the sort of thing where you go "doh" | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | not that I know what your problem is | 06:03 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, so, what's the fix? | 06:03 |
| fowlduck | oh, heh | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: hmm, I've never mentored a diety before, but it might be interesting ;-) | 06:04 |
| bddebian | Gah, I really do wonder why I'm here some times.. :'-( | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | because you love us | 06:04 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: you're meant to be one of the mentors | 06:05 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Yeah right, like I could mentor anyone :-) | 06:05 |
| ajmitch | more so than I could | 06:05 |
| bddebian | Oh BS | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: you should | 06:05 |
| bddebian | I can't even get my own questions answered, how would I mentor someone else? | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | it's not "teach them everything about packaging" mentoring | 06:06 |
| === ajmitch wants f-spot synced from sid | ||
| === Hobbsee sends ajmitch to LP. | ||
| bddebian | ajmitch: So request it ;-) | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | it's in incoming, not in the pool | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: you can tell them "I know how you feel" :-) | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | so I have to wait ~24 hours | 06:06 |
| bddebian | ah | 06:06 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Ah, OK :-) | 06:06 |
| crimsun | ajmitch: if you catch kamion/keybuk, they can sync from incoming | 06:07 |
| bddebian | Anyway, I had better hit the hay. Gnight folks | 06:07 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: how useful, it's not quite that urgent though | 06:07 |
| ajmitch | just making it installable again on edgy & closing an RC bug in sid | 06:07 |
| fowlduck | I go to sign this package and I get this error: gpg: problem with the agent - disabling agent use | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: and it doesn't work? | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | I don't use a gpg agent I don't think | 06:09 |
| fowlduck | nope | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | hmm, some time I should install f-spot, I've never seen it | 06:10 |
| === fowlduck growls at gpg | ||
| fowlduck | ok, figured it out | 06:14 |
| fowlduck | don't just copy the directory over | 06:14 |
| fowlduck | use gpg --import /path/to/.gnupg/* | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | really? I've never had to do that | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | whatever works though | 06:15 |
| fowlduck | i dunno | 06:15 |
| fowlduck | it worked now though | 06:15 |
| fowlduck | so, who wants to sponsor a wonderfully wonderful package? | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: do you do jabber? | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: yes | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: hobbsee@jabber.org | 06:18 |
| crimsun | spam! | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: bleh. yeah | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | I was looking it up on LP | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | I just wanted to know if you had it cause I'm collecting addresses | 06:19 |
| ajmitch | stalker... | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | yep | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | well the other night freenode went out for a while | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | so people were swapping jabber | 06:20 |
| ajmitch | so you had to check if you were still connected? ;) | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | I'm up to 18 people now | 06:20 |
| === ajmitch hasn't counted how many he knows of | ||
| LaserJock | interestingly, only Ubuntu people | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | I have no life it seems | 06:21 |
| ajmitch | only a few, I think | 06:21 |
| fowlduck | hmm, i'm on jabber methinks, because of gmail | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | yes | 06:21 |
| fowlduck | yay | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: crimsun :) | 06:21 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: just list it on your launchpad page | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: I don't think my wife would approve of me stalking a nice young lady, besides, that's really creepy | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: hm? | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: launchpad has a place to list your JID | 06:23 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I put my there ages ago | 06:23 |
| LaserJock | s/my/mine/ | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | if we could get all of those for a team, like we can with gpg... | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | ohhh, nice idea | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | I noticed there was an #ubuntu room on the jabber network | 06:25 |
| ajmitch | hm, the rdf only has the gpg info | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | rdf? | 06:26 |
| ajmitch | yes | 06:26 |
| ajmitch | the magic crack that web 2.0 is sprinkled with | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | I still can't figure out web 1.0 | 06:28 |
| fowlduck | sooooooooooo, who wants to revu mac-robber? | 06:30 |
| fowlduck | don't all jump at once now | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: sorry fowlduck, I can't tonight | 06:32 |
| crimsun | if you insist we don't | 06:32 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: what's the url? | 06:32 |
| fowlduck | hehe, thanks LaserJock | 06:32 |
| LaserJock | I can at least glance at it | 06:32 |
| fowlduck | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2757 | 06:33 |
| fowlduck | it's tiny | 06:33 |
| fowlduck | crimsun, I completely understand :) | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: do you know how to set up a .htaccess file to password protect a webpage? | 06:33 |
| fowlduck | fowlduck, umm, not off-hand, no | 06:33 |
| fowlduck | err | 06:33 |
| fowlduck | yeah | 06:34 |
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| fowlduck | LaserJock, no, not off-hand, and I believe for security .htaccess is not the preferred method | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | darn, I was going to swap knowledge, oh well | 06:35 |
| fowlduck | http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess3.shtml | 06:35 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, htpasswd file would work | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | haha, you must have been googling the same places I was ;-) | 06:36 |
| fowlduck | hehe | 06:36 |
| fowlduck | well, you reviewers have your work cut out for ya | 06:37 |
| fowlduck | i was just looking through that page, that's a lot of packages | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | boy, that is small | 06:37 |
| fowlduck | yep | 06:37 |
| fowlduck | small forensics tool | 06:37 |
| ajmitch | well that diff is almost as large as the orig tarball | 06:37 |
| ajmitch | mainly because it includes things like the whole GPL, an uncut debian/rules done by dh_make, etc | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: you gonna comment? | 06:38 |
| fowlduck | please comment, I'd like to learn to package better | 06:38 |
| ajmitch | people don't like me reviewing too much :) | 06:38 |
| fowlduck | ajmitch, the harshest teachers teach the most | 06:39 |
| fowlduck | I should have some more fun packages tomorrow to bug you guys with. Something far larger | 06:40 |
| fowlduck | is it possible to offer an update to a package that seems to have been laid aside? | 06:47 |
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| LaserJock | fowlduck: is the package in Debian? | 06:49 |
| fowlduck | good ? | 06:49 |
| ajmitch | fowlduck: I've added a comment | 06:49 |
| fowlduck | know an easy way to find outr? | 06:49 |
| fowlduck | ajmitch, i appreciate it, thanks | 06:50 |
| ajmitch | not comprehensive by any means | 06:50 |
| fowlduck | no 10-page report? i'm disappointed ;-) | 06:50 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: he doesn't need 10 pages, trust me | 06:51 |
| fowlduck | hehe i know i know | 06:52 |
| ajmitch | should I go & get some caffeine & work late tonight? | 06:52 |
| fowlduck | ajmitch, you could rest, get up early, and work refreshed | 06:53 |
| ajmitch | nah | 06:53 |
| lifeless | man | 06:53 |
| lifeless | work | 06:53 |
| lifeless | I can watch that shit all day | 06:53 |
| ajmitch | afternoon lifeless :) | 06:53 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, the package that needs updating is in debian, how does that affect my proposed update of it? | 06:54 |
| LaserJock | well, I would probably try to see what's going on in Debian first then | 06:55 |
| fowlduck | ok, thx | 06:55 |
| fowlduck | another question, is every tool required to have a manpage? mac-robber doesn't come with one | 06:59 |
| LaserJock | if it goes in /usr/bin then probably | 07:00 |
| ajmitch | that's the fun part of packaging | 07:00 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, see, I wasn't even sure if it went in /usr/bin, I just put it there because it seemed to fit | 07:02 |
| LaserJock | I'm guessing that's the place for the binary | 07:02 |
| fowlduck | wow, Foremost is at 0.69 in debian and ubuntu, the current release version is 1.2 with a release of 1.0 in between the two. Maybe they've just stopped updating it. Hopefully they're get it up to date :/ | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | you can always email the maitainer and politely ask (but check on the BTS first) | 07:05 |
| fowlduck | BTS? | 07:05 |
| fowlduck | I already politely emailed them, so oops? | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | bugs.debian.org Bug Tracking System | 07:06 |
| fowlduck | oh, ok, thanks | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | you could check to see if a bug was opened about getting the new version | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | ok, good night folks | 07:07 |
| fowlduck | oh, ok, great. If there isn't I suppose I could file one, but I'll wait on a reply | 07:07 |
| fowlduck | g'nite LaserJock, thanks as usual | 07:07 |
| Laser_away | np | 07:07 |
| fowlduck | g'nite people | 07:14 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 07:15 |
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| ajmitch | welcome back Hobbsee | 07:19 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 07:19 |
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| Hobbsee | do we actually use build-depends-indep? | 07:41 |
| Hobbsee | ie. +Build-Depends-Indep: libqt3-mt-dev, kdelibs4-dev, perl | 07:41 |
| ajmitch | why wouldn't you use it? | 07:41 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: i've never seen it used before, that's why i'm asking. | 07:42 |
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| ajmitch | it is used quite often | 07:43 |
| Hobbsee | cool, okay | 07:43 |
| ajmitch | eg I count 3106 packages with debhelper in B-D-I | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | right, okay | 07:45 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:07 |
| crimsun | morning Daniel | 09:10 |
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| Arbiter | Mithrandir, ping | 09:12 |
| Mithrandir | Arbiter: hi | 09:12 |
| Arbiter | hi | 09:12 |
| Arbiter | Mithrandir, yesterday you told me that buildd for x86 uses -march=i486 -mtune=pentium-4 if i remember correctly | 09:13 |
| Mithrandir | no, I didn't, but it does, yes. | 09:13 |
| Arbiter | uhm... i was wondering... | 09:14 |
| Arbiter | why use -mtune=pentium-4? on non-pentium machines binaries are really sloooow | 09:14 |
| Mithrandir | like, 486-es or something else? | 09:14 |
| Arbiter | i'm on an athlon-xp | 09:15 |
| Mithrandir | k7 is optimised to do pentium binaries quite fast. | 09:15 |
| Arbiter | Mithrandir, i find my ubuntu slower than a slackware installation :P | 09:15 |
| Mithrandir | if you come up with real numbers in a real benchmark, I'm sure we can look at having it changed, but we'd need numbers. | 09:15 |
| Arbiter | it's just impressions :D | 09:16 |
| Mithrandir | well, such impressions are easily fooled. | 09:17 |
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| Arbiter | Mithrandir, hehehe | 09:20 |
| Arbiter | :D | 09:20 |
| Arbiter | Mithrandir, you're a -core-dev right? | 09:20 |
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| Mithrandir | yes | 09:21 |
| Arbiter | cool | 09:21 |
| Arbiter | Mithrandir, thank you for your work then :D | 09:21 |
| Arbiter | ubuntu is great ;) | 09:22 |
| Mithrandir | thanks. :-) | 09:23 |
| Arbiter | ;) | 09:23 |
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| phanatic | morning motu world | 09:44 |
| crimsun | hi | 09:45 |
| Arbiter | hey phanatic | 09:49 |
| Arbiter | :) | 09:49 |
| phanatic | heya Arbiter | 09:49 |
| Arbiter | Mithrandir, maybe you know if edgy is going to have reiser4 support? | 09:53 |
| Mithrandir | Arbiter: no idea, sorry. | 09:54 |
| Arbiter | ow | 09:54 |
| Arbiter | it would be a nice feature for edgy (imvho) | 09:55 |
| Arbiter | uhm... can I use .orig.tar.bz2? or only .orig.tar.gz is allowed/useable? | 10:22 |
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| Fujitsu | Arbiter, you can't use a bzip2. Must be a gzip. | 10:28 |
| Arbiter | heh | 10:29 |
| Arbiter | i _must_ modify the original tarball then | 10:29 |
| Arbiter | :p | 10:29 |
| Arbiter | (upstream provides only .bz2) | 10:29 |
| Fujitsu | Arbiter, there's a special exception for that. You are allowed to bunzip2 it and gzip it. | 10:42 |
| Arbiter | well :) | 10:42 |
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| chantra | hi there | 12:40 |
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| Toadstool | hi everybody | 12:55 |
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| phanatic | hey Toadstool | 12:57 |
| Toadstool | heya phanatic | 12:58 |
| chantra | do you guys know how I could compile packages for x64 architecture? is there any build farm around? | 12:58 |
| chantra | I have tried dpkg-cross without any success :s | 12:58 |
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| zul | hey | 02:14 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 02:48 |
| tseng | hi Hobbsee | 02:49 |
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| Hobbsee | hi tseng :) | 02:49 |
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| zul | hi Hobbsee | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | hi zul | 02:50 |
| Sp4rKy | hi | 02:52 |
| phanatic | hey Hobbsee | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | hi phanatic :) | 02:52 |
| Cornellius | Hi there | 02:53 |
| zul | setting up edirectory is fun.. | 02:53 |
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| fowlduck | hallo | 03:46 |
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| fowlduck | how does one build a pbuilder environment for edgy? | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | !pbuilder | 03:49 |
| ubotu | pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 03:50 |
| fowlduck | wait, think I figured it out | 03:50 |
| fowlduck | sudo pbuilder update --distribution <newdistro> --override-config | 03:50 |
| phanatic | fowlduck: that should do the trick | 03:51 |
| fowlduck | phanatic, looks like it's working. I built a package for dapper and put it on revu....oops! | 03:51 |
| fowlduck | be back in a bit | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | fowlduck: heh, i've done that with 2 packages, and tried to upload them :P | 03:53 |
| Cornellius | Why does Mepis goes from 3.4 to 6.0 is beyond me. | 03:54 |
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| zul | i think it might be mepis might be based off of us now | 03:56 |
| phanatic | hey Gloubiboulga | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | hi Gloubiboulga | 03:58 |
| Arbiter | wb Gloubiboulga | 03:58 |
| Cornellius | Yay for nick completion :) | 03:58 |
| Arbiter | :D | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | hehe exactly | 03:59 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello * | 03:59 |
| _ion | <*> hello Gloubiboulga | 04:00 |
| Gloubiboulga | sorry, I'm lazy today ;) | 04:00 |
| bjp | hi Gloubiboulga | 04:02 |
| Cornellius | Hello world ! | 04:02 |
| bjp | Gloubiboulga> must be the temparture causing that ;-) | 04:02 |
| Gloubiboulga | bjp, yep :) | 04:03 |
| Cornellius | It's below 30 C here, finally :) | 04:03 |
| === bjp congratulates BirthdayHobbsee | ||
| === Gloubiboulga sings "happy birthday" to BirthdayHobbsee | ||
| BirthdayHobbsee | hehe :) | 04:07 |
| zul | BirthdayHobbsee: happy bday you old fart | 04:07 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | hehe | 04:07 |
| === BirthdayHobbsee is very old and decrepit | ||
| BirthdayHobbsee | where's my walking stick? | 04:07 |
| phanatic | BirthdayHobbsee: yay, happy birthsday :) | 04:07 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | :) | 04:07 |
| phanatic | -s | 04:07 |
| Cornellius | I got 23 yrs old on July 9th :) | 04:07 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | :) | 04:09 |
| Cornellius | How old are you now Hobbsee ? | 04:09 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | Cornellius: 18 | 04:10 |
| fowlduck | wow, grandma here | 04:10 |
| Cornellius | Good, now you're legal :) | 04:10 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | lol | 04:10 |
| fowlduck | don't see too many 18-y/o women as cool as you BirthdayHobbsee, tbh | 04:11 |
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| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: :) | 04:11 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: most of them hate computers | 04:11 |
| fowlduck | yep (my wife included) | 04:11 |
| fowlduck | we got married when she was 18 :) | 04:11 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | ouch? that's young! | 04:12 |
| zul | i feel old now | 04:12 |
| ogra | H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y H O B B S E E !! | 04:12 |
| fowlduck | naw, it's fantastic, now she's 21 and I'm 23, things are goin great | 04:12 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | hehe | 04:12 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | thankyou ogra :) | 04:12 |
| ogra | :)) | 04:13 |
| Cornellius | fowlduck: That's good to hear | 04:13 |
| Cornellius | "things are goin grea" | 04:13 |
| fowlduck | :) | 04:14 |
| fowlduck | !debianpolicy | 04:17 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about debianpolicy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 04:17 |
| fowlduck | !debian policy | 04:17 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about debian policy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 04:17 |
| fowlduck | for section, I'm putting utils, should I put 'universe/utils', 'multiverse/utils', or just 'utils'? | 04:20 |
| Gloubiboulga | just 'utils' | 04:21 |
| fowlduck | ok thx | 04:21 |
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| fowlduck | where can the GPL text be found on ubuntu? | 04:24 |
| dholbach | /usr/share/common-licenses | 04:24 |
| dholbach | gnu.org | 04:25 |
| fowlduck | dholbach, thanks, appreciate it | 04:25 |
| dholbach | everywhere :) | 04:25 |
| dholbach | it's on the tshirt i wear today! :) | 04:25 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | hi dholbach | 04:25 |
| fowlduck | haha | 04:25 |
| dholbach | fowlduck: really :) | 04:25 |
| dholbach | BirthdayHobbsee: you have birthday today?! | 04:25 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | dholbach: yep :) | 04:25 |
| dholbach | WOW!!! | 04:25 |
| dholbach | happy birthday | 04:25 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | dholbach: ajmitch and yagisan have seen proof of this :) | 04:26 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | dholbach: thankyou :) | 04:26 |
| dholbach | proof as in how? | 04:26 |
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| BirthdayHobbsee | dholbach: DOB on licence | 04:27 |
| dholbach | ah so you're getting drunk together now? | 04:27 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | dholbach: nope, parents are asleep, and i'm sitting examining kdeartwokr (screensavers) at the moment. | 04:28 |
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| Arbiter | BirthdayHobbsee, happy birthday :) | 04:28 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | dholbach: as for why, i dont know - why am i looking to fix stuff in main, when i now have upload rights? | 04:28 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | Arbiter: thankyou :) | 04:28 |
| Arbiter | BirthdayHobbsee, did you become a MOTU? | 04:28 |
| Arbiter | (this wed iirc)? | 04:29 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | Arbiter: yep | 04:29 |
| Arbiter | BirthdayHobbsee, wow! | 04:29 |
| Arbiter | BirthdayHobbsee, congratulations :D | 04:29 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | :D | 04:29 |
| phanatic | BirthdayHobbsee: congrats for becoming a MOTU really ;) | 04:31 |
| Arbiter | BirthdayHobbsee, next step is -core-dev :D | 04:31 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | phanatic: thankyou :) | 04:31 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | Arbiter: yeah - i've already tried uploading one thing to main accidently :P | 04:31 |
| Arbiter | lol | 04:32 |
| Arbiter | me too :P | 04:32 |
| fowlduck | is there an easy program to use to create/edit manpages? | 04:32 |
| Arbiter | but i'm not motu or -core-dev :P | 04:32 |
| dholbach | fowlduck: use the example of dh_make | 04:32 |
| Arbiter | fowlduck, manedit but uses gtk 1.2 afaik | 04:32 |
| _ion | fowlduck: I usually use help2man to create the initial man page and then fix it manually. | 04:33 |
| fowlduck | dholbach, eh? | 04:33 |
| dholbach | i think dh_make gives you an xml file example | 04:34 |
| dholbach | doesnt it? | 04:34 |
| fowlduck | dholbach, oh, in the debian directory, yes, I just don't want to mess it up | 04:34 |
| dholbach | hum | 04:35 |
| fowlduck | i can definitely see myself screwing it up good | 04:35 |
| dholbach | it's easier to edit an xml file and then mangle it into a manpage in debian/rules | 04:36 |
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| fowlduck | well, know any good programs to assist in editing XML files then? Anything to help my clumsiness | 04:37 |
| zul | vim ;) | 04:38 |
| Arbiter | :) | 04:39 |
| Arbiter | or emacs | 04:39 |
| Arbiter | :P | 04:39 |
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| ryanakca | what command do you run to reupload sources to typespeed? dput -f typespeed_0.5.1-1_source.changes | 04:44 |
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| ryanakca | (this is after I fixed things according to the comments) | 04:45 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:46 |
| Gloubiboulga | hey bddebian | 04:46 |
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| BirthdayHobbsee | ryanakca: ah, yeah, that shoudl wrok | 04:46 |
| bddebian | Hello Gloubiboulga | 04:47 |
| Yagisan | G'day bddebian | 04:47 |
| ryanakca | ooh... happy birthday hobbsee | 04:47 |
| bddebian | Hello Yagisan | 04:47 |
| Yagisan | BirthdayHobbsee: Congrats | 04:47 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | ryanakca: Yagisan: :) | 04:48 |
| FunnyLookinHat | So if compiling from source requires me to throw special parameters at ./configure and to run something else before make what file do I change that dh_make creates? | 04:48 |
| bddebian | FunnyLookinHat: Those should go in debian/rules | 04:49 |
| FunnyLookinHat | bddebian, sweet thanks | 04:49 |
| bddebian | FunnyLookinHat: Is it a cdbs package or other? | 04:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | bddebian, MythTV | 04:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Not using cdbs | 04:50 |
| bddebian | FunnyLookinHat: OK, then just add them to the ./configure line | 04:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ok sounds good | 04:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | hmm wait | 04:51 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I can see how to do the ./configure stuff in that file | 04:51 |
| FunnyLookinHat | but after I run that I have to run: qmake mythtv.pro | 04:51 |
| FunnyLookinHat | then make | 04:51 |
| bddebian | OK | 04:52 |
| fowlduck | dholbach, under the refsynopsisdiv, what do the tags in the line: <arg><option>-e <replaceable>this</replaceable></option></arg> | 04:53 |
| fowlduck | mean? | 04:53 |
| dholbach | those are the commandline options | 04:53 |
| Toadstool | re | 04:53 |
| dholbach | try building the package | 04:53 |
| dholbach | or try to generate the manpage from xml file | 04:54 |
| bddebian | wb Toadstool | 04:54 |
| dholbach | then you'll see how they show up | 04:54 |
| dholbach | hey Toadstool, bddebian | 04:54 |
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| Toadstool | heya bddebian, dholbach | 04:54 |
| fowlduck | dholbach, hmm, what's the tool for that? | 04:54 |
| dholbach | fowlduck: apt-get source glom - i did it there | 04:54 |
| fowlduck | dholbach, forgive my ignorance, but how to I access the contents of the three files it downloads? | 04:55 |
| fowlduck | nvm | 04:56 |
| fowlduck | there is a directory | 04:56 |
| fowlduck | sorry | 04:56 |
| dholbach | yeah | 04:56 |
| dholbach | look at glom*/debian | 04:56 |
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| dholbach | debian/rules builds the manpage | 04:56 |
| fowlduck | dholbach, thanks | 04:59 |
| dholbach | anytime | 04:59 |
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| fowlduck | hmm, should see also be removed if there is nothing else to look at? | 05:10 |
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| fowlduck | howdy hub | 05:13 |
| zakame | hi all | 05:25 |
| bddebian | Heya zakame | 05:28 |
| fowlduck | weird, lintian said edgy was a bad distribution | 05:36 |
| Cornellius | Not a bad, but not stable enough yet. | 05:36 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: yeah, it's been doing that for a while. use linda instead. | 05:38 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | Cornellius: bah. who needs stable anyway | 05:38 |
| Cornellius | :D | 05:38 |
| fowlduck | BirthdayHobbsee, yeah, debuild uses lintian though, unless there is a setting for that | 05:38 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: true. didnt think debuild used either. | 05:38 |
| fowlduck | doesn't hurt it though, just runs before signing | 05:39 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | true | 05:39 |
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| bddebian | Heya tritium | 05:48 |
| tritium | Hi bddebian | 05:49 |
| tritium | Happy Birthday, BirthdayHobbsee :) | 05:49 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | hi tritium :) ty | 05:50 |
| bluefoxicy | hey! It was my birthday 2 days ago | 05:51 |
| === bddebian feels so loved in -devel | ||
| bddebian | bluefoxicy: Well Happy belated Birthday | 05:51 |
| tritium | happy belated, bluefoxicy | 05:51 |
| bluefoxicy | heh | 05:52 |
| === bluefoxicy gives Hobbsee... um. A beer or something. | ||
| bluefoxicy | i'm 21 now, I can buy beer; I still can't drink it, it tastes like crap. | 05:52 |
| bluefoxicy | S.S. IPM (RAW) | 05:53 |
| fowlduck | bluefoxicy, i second that | 05:53 |
| tritium | heresy! | 05:53 |
| fowlduck | so, anyone up for reviewing a tiny little package? | 05:53 |
| fowlduck | if you do: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2757 | 05:54 |
| fowlduck | just fixed everything after ajmitch's decimation ;-) | 05:54 |
| bluefoxicy | oh God they finally caught up to me XD | 05:54 |
| bluefoxicy | did Knot 1 get released last night or something? | 05:54 |
| tritium | yeah, it's out | 05:55 |
| bluefoxicy | There's suddenly a ton of ... interesting conversation (and very bad jokes) floating in #techfurs | 05:56 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | bluefoxicy: hehe thanks. | 05:59 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | can you search LP for a specific bug? | 06:07 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | Kamping_Kaiser: sure. type in the bug number on teh front page | 06:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm. *looks on front page* | 06:08 |
| zakame | bluefoxicy: 21 cheers for you :) | 06:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | BirthdayHobbsee, in malone? | 06:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh, here it is | 06:09 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | Kamping_Kaiser: yep | 06:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :( its broken *hopes its unbroken soon* | 06:09 |
| bluefoxicy | yay my edgy CDs are here! | 06:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | fair effort o_0 | 06:10 |
| bluefoxicy | um, what are the stickers for? | 06:12 |
| === bluefoxicy got stickers with his 6.06 CDs | ||
| === Kamping_Kaiser swears at vim. it can fkign work itself out | ||
| tritium | For sticking onto your laptop, or something, bluefoxicy :) | 06:15 |
| bluefoxicy | o_o they're huge | 06:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | they arnt that big o_0 | 06:15 |
| bluefoxicy | My AMD sticker is like [ ] these are like ( | | 06:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | bluefoxicy, they are advertising, not badging :) | 06:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | brb | 06:16 |
| bluefoxicy | oh | 06:16 |
| bluefoxicy | also they're kind of... umm.. well I guess the shape is unimportant but o_o | 06:17 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser declares bluefoxicy a fusspot | ||
| LaserJock | Morning MOTU people | 06:20 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | hi LaserJock | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | BirthdayHobbsee: hmm, something seems different about you today :-) | 06:20 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: hehe. yes, i'm needing a walking stick | 06:20 |
| === BirthdayHobbsee is very tired. | ||
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | have you slept yet? It's pretty early (or late) there | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 06:21 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: nope | 06:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi LaserJock | 06:21 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | @time sydney | 06:21 |
| Ubug2 | Current time in Australia/Sydney: July 22 2006, 02:21:22 | 06:21 |
| === BirthdayHobbsee pokes Seveas over weird bot names | ||
| LaserJock | yikes! I went to bed at 12:30 last night (had to watch Jay Leno) and I feel aweful this morning | 06:21 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | heh | 06:22 |
| === BirthdayHobbsee often goes to bed at 2am or so | ||
| LaserJock | apparently I'm neither a late night person nor an early morning person | 06:22 |
| ogra | no, its all Jay Lenos fault | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | BirthdayHobbsee: well, when I was young like you I used to do it all the time ;-) | 06:22 |
| === BirthdayHobbsee is a late person | ||
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: hehe | 06:22 |
| bddebian | I'm a late nighter but certainly not an early morning one :-) | 06:22 |
| tritium | @time Albuquerque | 06:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | anyone familar with quilt patch system? | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | tritium: hi! | 06:22 |
| tritium | damn! Hey, LaserJock | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | Kamping_Kaiser: no, but if you get familiar with it please let me know. I want to add a section on it for the Packaging Guide | 06:23 |
| === ajmitch wonders why he's still awake hacking | ||
| LaserJock | ajmitch: SoC? | 06:23 |
| tritium | hey ajmitch | 06:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | LaserJock, :( i wasnt after that answer | 06:23 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | ajmitch: because you're crazy. now go to bed. i stole a merge from you, i think, btw. | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: sure, but at nearly 4:30AM? | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | hi tritium | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | BirthdayHobbsee: sigh | 06:24 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser needs to read the guide himself | ||
| LaserJock | Kamping_Kaiser: best I can offer you from my feeble knowledge, "You can pave the way for futur generations of MOTU" </end TV voice> | 06:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | LaserJock, well, thanks :| when i'm familar with *any* sort of patching i'll let you know :P | 06:25 |
| === ajmitch wonders if f-spot is out of incoming yet | ||
| LaserJock | Kamping_Kaiser: well maybe you just need to wait for the 25th. Our first MOTU School session will be on patching (given by pitti) | 06:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | LaserJock, i asked him last night, he said he wasnt familar with it *lols* | 06:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | but i will look at that date. where is ther emore info? the wiki? | 06:27 |
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| LaserJock | Kamping_Kaiser: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School | 06:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks | 06:27 |
| ajmitch | yay, someone else to do that stuff | 06:27 |
| tritium | LaserJock: there's a school? /me needs to take classes... | 06:28 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: yay :) | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | tritium: you need to teach some ;-) | 06:28 |
| === BirthdayHobbsee would like to read a class on patching. | ||
| === BirthdayHobbsee isnt terribly good at it. | ||
| LaserJock | we also have crimsun lined up to do a merging session | 06:28 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: with the MoM, or without it? | 06:29 |
| tritium | LaserJock: lol, I would need more knowledge to be able to do that | 06:29 |
| ajmitch | BirthdayHobbsee should be teaching some | 06:29 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | ajmitch: heh, rubbish | 06:30 |
| ajmitch | hm | 06:31 |
| ajmitch | I guess I should sleep | 06:31 |
| ajmitch | latest I've stayed up for awhile | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | BirthdayHobbsee: that's up to crimsun I suppose :-) | 06:32 |
| ryanakca | BirthdayHobbsee: ooh... class on patching... very usefull.. it confuses me to no end | 06:34 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) and http://tinyurl.com/kbxpe (mysqlclient) | http://tinyurl.com/pghsw (motureviewers) | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | ||
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| BirthdayHobbsee | [02:34] <BirthdayHobbsee> LaserJock: true. keybuk was happy to help out with MoM stuff - it really does make it a lot easier | 06:35 |
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| ryanakca | fun fun fun | 06:35 |
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| BirthdayHobbsee | ajmitch: hah | 06:35 |
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| (Hawkwind/#ubuntu-motu) BirthdayHobbsee: Happy birthday! | 06:36 | |
| BirthdayHobbsee | Hawkwind: :) | 06:36 |
| Hawkwind | Hope it's been a good one so far :) | 06:36 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | all two and a half hours o fit :P | 06:36 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) and http://tinyurl.com/kbxpe (mysqlclient) | http://tinyurl.com/pghsw (motureviewers) | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | ||
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| fowlduck | wow, so what was that? | 06:46 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | !netsplit | 06:47 |
| ryanakca | massive netsplits | 06:47 |
| === ryanakca guesses that ubotu got lost :) | ||
| BirthdayHobbsee | ubo | 06:47 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, hey, feeling like takin a look at my package? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2757 | 06:47 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | ah yeah | 06:47 |
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| BirthdayHobbsee | Seveas: where's ubotu? | 06:47 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | there :P | 06:47 |
| Arbiter | heh | 06:48 |
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| ryanakca | anybody feel like taking a look at my package as well? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2759 | 06:49 |
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| BirthdayHobbsee | hey sivang! | 06:51 |
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| kgoetz | BirthdayHobbsee, no it wont :P | 06:56 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | kgoetz: yes it will :P | 06:56 |
| fowlduck | hey hobbsee, as a motu you can review packages....riiiiiiiiiiiiiight? :D | 06:57 |
| kgoetz | :P | 06:57 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: hehe. indeed, yes i can | 06:57 |
| kgoetz | i cant proove you wrong for another 10 minutes, but just you wait ;P | 06:57 |
| fowlduck | BirthdayHobbsee, well I have a birthday present for you!!! http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2757 | 06:58 |
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| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: heh. too tired for that. | 06:58 |
| kgoetz | rejected :| | 06:58 |
| fowlduck | ouch | 06:58 |
| fowlduck | BirthdayHobbsee, it's cool, I'm just a lil impatient, 's all | 06:59 |
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| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: you've made it a native package - you need to be using an orig.tar.gz | 07:00 |
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| fowlduck | BirthdayHobbsee, hum, what? :/ | 07:00 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: packages (mostly) consist of a .dsc, a .diff.gz, and a .orig.tar.gz - you've only got a .tar.gz and a .dsc | 07:01 |
| fowlduck | hmm, I have the orig.tar.gz in the directory with the source | 07:02 |
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| fowlduck | I used dput revu *_source.changes | 07:02 |
| fowlduck | is that right? | 07:02 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: what's the full name of the .orig.tar.gz? | 07:02 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | and the orig.tar.gz should be in the directory above teh source? | 07:03 |
| fowlduck | mac-robber_1.00.orig.tar.gz | 07:03 |
| fowlduck | yep | 07:03 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | okay - and what's the source directory name? | 07:03 |
| fowlduck | http://pastebin.ca/94904 | 07:03 |
| fowlduck | hmm, let me ls -l | 07:04 |
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| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: hmmm... | 07:04 |
| fowlduck | BirthdayHobbsee, http://pastebin.ca/94906 | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: so it seems you managed to turn it into a native package | 07:05 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: rm mac-robber-1.00.tar.gz mac-robber_1.0.0-0ubuntu1* && dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa -kyourkeyIDhere | 07:05 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, I'm magical *poof* | 07:05 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: yeah, i'm not sure why - maybe due to the extra .tar.gz there... | 07:05 |
| LaserJock | could be | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | it happens sometimes | 07:06 |
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| ryanakca | LaserJock: when your done helping fowlduck... could you do me a favor and look threw http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2759 | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | BirthdayHobbsee: and you must not be lazy enough. s/dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot/debuild/ | 07:06 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: yeah, that works too... | 07:07 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: no, i'm not lazy at all... | 07:07 |
| fowlduck | BirthdayHobbsee, -A931AB1C is invalid, amd I not getting it? | 07:07 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | cat sarah@sarah:~$ cat revubuild | 07:07 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | #!/bin/bash | 07:07 |
| LaserJock | BirthdayHobbsee: how'd you make MOTU then ;-) | 07:07 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -k98B2D4F0 | 07:07 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: ^ | 07:07 |
| kgoetz | hehe | 07:07 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: -k | 07:07 |
| fowlduck | oh, ok | 07:07 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: i'm not lazy at all - i have a whole host of scripts in /usr/local/bin :P | 07:07 |
| LaserJock | BirthdayHobbsee: I'm too lazy to make scripts ;-) | 07:08 |
| kgoetz | lol | 07:08 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: pft. | 07:08 |
| LaserJock | actually, I think bash scripting has to be one of God's gifts to humanity | 07:08 |
| kgoetz | come on vim, you should be ready about now :( | 07:08 |
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| BirthdayHobbsee | hi dholbach | 07:09 |
| fowlduck | weird | 07:09 |
| fowlduck | it didn't upload the orig | 07:09 |
| dholbach | re | 07:09 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: changes file likely didtn reference it. | 07:09 |
| Arbiter | pff... i need to re-upload my colorscheme package :/ | 07:10 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: did you use -sa with dpkg-buildpackage | 07:10 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, indeed I did | 07:10 |
| Arbiter | (upstream has changed application name from colorscheme to agave) | 07:10 |
| === Arbiter grrrr | ||
| BirthdayHobbsee | Arbiter: hah. bet that has to work it's way thru NEW too.... | 07:10 |
| Arbiter | BirthdayHobbsee, and of course it doesn't compile with gcc 4.1 :p | 07:11 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | Arbiter: yeah, that's normal. | 07:11 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | with kde, ti's the automake. | 07:11 |
| Arbiter | but i made a patch... :D | 07:11 |
| Arbiter | and seems to work | 07:11 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | yay :) | 07:12 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | Arbiter: please tell me it's a patch, and you didnt change the .orig.tar.gz | 07:12 |
| Arbiter | patch, real patch | 07:12 |
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| (fowlduck/#ubuntu-motu) where else could it possibly be specified to be native? | 07:15 | |
| (fowlduck/#ubuntu-motu) so I can "unspecify" | 07:15 | |
| (Arbiter/#ubuntu-motu) BirthdayHobbsee, wow | 07:15 | |
| (Arbiter/#ubuntu-motu) 7pm here :D | 07:15 | |
| (fowlduck/#ubuntu-motu) 12:15 PM here | 07:15 | |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, any idea? | 07:16 |
| kgoetz | not-far-behind BirthdayHobbsee here ;) | 07:16 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: if you dont get a .diff.gz, that means it's not native. | 07:16 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | hehe | 07:16 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: take out the - between the two words on the package, and the same of thename of the .orig.tar.gz? | 07:16 |
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| LaserJock | fowlduck: was it working before? | 07:17 |
| LaserJock | or has it always been this way? | 07:17 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | fowlduck: ie, macrobber etc | 07:17 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | LaserJock: yeah, the last revision, i think | 07:17 |
| fowlduck | so something I changed changed it | 07:17 |
| ryanakca | BirthdayHobbsee: wow... 1:17PM here... | 07:18 |
| fowlduck | the first line in my changelog is: mac-robber (1.0.0-0ubuntu1) edgy; urgency=low | 07:18 |
| fowlduck | is that correct? | 07:18 |
| BirthdayHobbsee | yep | 07:19 |
| fowlduck | i just used "utils" for section in the control file, is that right? or should it be universe/utils | 07:19 |
| LaserJock | no | 07:20 |
| LaserJock | just utils | 07:20 |
| kgoetz | coool. the vim compile has an eplepsy section | 07:20 |
| kgoetz | wow. looks pretty badly stuffed actually | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: ok, this is what I'd do (not sure if it is the best way of doing it) | 07:21 |
| fowlduck | start over? :/ | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: I'd save the debian/ you've got somewhere about the source dir | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | then grab the previous source package that worked | 07:22 |
| fowlduck | ah, ok | 07:22 |
| LaserJock | diff the two debian/ dirs | 07:22 |
| LaserJock | to see that the only changes are the ones you want | 07:22 |
| LaserJock | then copy the changes and rebuild the source package | 07:23 |
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| LaserJock | but I'd get rid of any extra cruft packages (i.e. the latest one) | 07:23 |
| LaserJock | just to make sure it doesn't get confused | 07:23 |
| fowlduck | yep, not sure how to diff directories though | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | diff -Naur <dir1> <dir2> | 07:24 |
| fowlduck | still no diff | 07:29 |
| fowlduck | i mean no diff file creating in debuild, if i understood you right | 07:30 |
| ryanakca | hmmm.... does contributing towards ubuntu-fr still count towards ubuntu membership? | 07:30 |
| LaserJock | sure | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | anything Ubuntu related (could be Kubuntu, Edubuntu, etc. and it could be any variety of things) | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | just document it | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: but did you diff the two debian/ dirs? | 07:32 |
| fowlduck | yeah | 07:32 |
| fowlduck | and the changes were the ones I wanted | 07:32 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: kk, ty :) | 07:33 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: ok, so then what did you do? | 07:33 |
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| fowlduck | I did diff -Naur debian/ /home/nate/debian/ | 07:35 |
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| fowlduck | I probably misunderstood you | 07:35 |
| LaserJock | ok, and that had the changes you want, right? | 07:37 |
| fowlduck | yep | 07:37 |
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| kgoetz | hi bddebian :) | 07:40 |
| bddebian | Hello kgoetz | 07:40 |
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| Arbiter | can you review agave? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2755 | 07:40 |
| kgoetz | oh, i'm still kgoetz ? ;O | 07:40 |
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| Arbiter | (aka colorscheme... thanks to it's upstream author i need to re-do the new package process... :/) | 07:41 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, well, should I just start over?? | 07:42 |
| === fowlduck needs a mentor | ||
| bddebian | fowlduck: Me too :-) | 07:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hehe | 07:43 |
| Arbiter | when's the new Community Council? | 07:44 |
| fowlduck | well, I feel bad pestering everyone about all this packaging junk, I'd love for there to be someone I could go to to ask these sorts of questions, training me to package | 07:44 |
| bddebian | Aye, we all do :-) | 07:44 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: don't worry, your'e doing fine | 07:44 |
| Arbiter | s/new/next | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: you'll feel better once you go through some of the School sessions | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: but this channel largly exists for this sort of thing | 07:45 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, yeah, and I wish I could go this tuesday, it looks to be a nice one | 07:45 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser needs to work out how to get a file on a usb hdd mounted as the root fs on the live cd - hten i can have persistant sesions, and try learing packagin on the go | ||
| LaserJock | fowlduck: ok, can you paste the debdiff somewhere for me? | 07:46 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, sure | 07:46 |
| LaserJock | doh, not debdiff, just the diff of the 2 debain/ | 07:46 |
| fowlduck | yeah | 07:46 |
| LaserJock | debian/ | 07:46 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, http://pastebin.ca/94954 | 07:48 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, that's the output from: diff -Naur debian/ /home/nate/debian/ | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: ok, so run debuild -S -sa in the current source | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | and make sure it is non-native | 07:50 |
| fowlduck | ok, without any changes to debian/ run it? | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:51 |
| fowlduck | ok, there is a diff.gz | 07:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | whats the correct format for diff? is that Nau it? (i'm just doing 2 files) | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | sure | 07:53 |
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| LaserJock | I think the key thing is to make a unified diff (I think that's the u part) | 07:53 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. lucky - i had a u, just wasnt sure about anything else :) | 07:54 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, here is the output from what I just did, it might help you to get a feel for it: http://pastebin.ca/94958 | 07:55 |
| fowlduck | it seems like everything functions normally until I put in my changed files... | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | hmm, ok | 07:56 |
| fowlduck | wait a second, I think I goofed, I left in the source directory the file I redirected the diff into | 07:57 |
| fowlduck | let me redo that without that file | 07:58 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | LaserJock, the vim package source has "How to configure your quilt" in /debian/, would that be of intrest for the package guide? | 07:59 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | *understand | 07:59 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, works now | 07:59 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: what works? | 08:00 |
| LaserJock | Kamping_Kaiser: sure, can you email it to me at mantha AT ubuntu.com? | 08:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sure | 08:01 |
| LaserJock | thanks | 08:01 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, taking out the debdiff out of the directory with an unchanged debian/ directory. I accidentally left something in the source directory and we got that diff file, well I redid it all without that file and same results. It's still broken though... | 08:02 |
| LaserJock | ok | 08:02 |
| LaserJock | well I'm wondering if you versioning is a problem | 08:02 |
| fowlduck | just left m diff file from the two directories in there | 08:02 |
| fowlduck | ? | 08:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | LaserJock, sent | 08:02 |
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| LaserJock | fowlduck: the problem starts when you went from 1.00 to 1.0.0 for the upstream version | 08:03 |
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| fowlduck | LaserJock, ahhhhhhhh | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | rename the .orig.tar.gz | 08:04 |
| fowlduck | it says this in ajmitch's post though: For Ubuntu, version should be 1.0.0-0ubuntu1, with distribution edgy in debian/changelog | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | yes | 08:04 |
| fowlduck | should it be 1.00-0ubuntu1? | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | no | 08:05 |
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| fowlduck | oh, rename the orig.tar.gz to mac-robber_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz? | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | yep | 08:06 |
| fowlduck | okie | 08:06 |
| fowlduck | then try it out? | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | it works | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | ok kids, the lesson for today is: Make sure that the versioning of the .orig.tar.gz matches the upstream version in debian/control so dpkg-buildpackage can find it | 08:07 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: Thank you teacher :-) | 08:08 |
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| Arbiter | :D | 08:09 |
| LaserJock | ghemical 2.0 is in edgy! wahoo! | 08:09 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: your doing Python Policy stuff? | 08:10 |
| bddebian | I'm freaking trying :-( | 08:10 |
| fowlduck | yayayayayay!!! | 08:10 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, thanks sooooooooooo much | 08:10 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck: well, I should have spotted that sooner | 08:10 |
| Spec | you're updating the policy to include what to do with egg files? | 08:11 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, a well-learned lesson, sensei | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | but the change is so slight that it made it hard to spot | 08:11 |
| Spec | or are those to remain a mystery? :) | 08:11 |
| fowlduck | just one . | 08:11 |
| Arbiter | LaserJock, how long it takes a package approved in REVU to become part of universe? | 08:11 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, now you can approve it! ;) | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | Arbiter: depends on how fast the NEW queue is being proccessed | 08:11 |
| Arbiter | where can i see the NEW queue? | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'm not sure if you can | 08:12 |
| Arbiter | oh slomo has updated mono packages | 08:12 |
| fowlduck | good news too people, foremost 1.2 is in edgy! | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: ok, so what kind of python package is it? | 08:13 |
| fowlduck | ewww, the mac-robber manpage needs to be fixed a bit | 08:13 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: hamlib | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | so it's a python lib? | 08:13 |
| bddebian | Need it for gpredict | 08:13 |
| Arbiter | LaserJock, :( | 08:13 |
| ryanakca | anybody feel like taking a look at my package as well? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2759 | 08:13 |
| Arbiter | LaserJock, can you see the NEW queue? :D | 08:13 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: No, it has a python-hamlib binary | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: did you start from the Debian package? | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | Arbiter: not that I'm aware of | 08:14 |
| Arbiter | aw | 08:15 |
| Arbiter | np then :) | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | Arbiter: it can take a few days depending on how bus the archive admins are | 08:15 |
| Arbiter | i'll wait for my package being in edgy | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | busy | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | Arbiter: can you see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue ? | 08:17 |
| Arbiter | yep | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | that's the NEW queue ;-) | 08:17 |
| Arbiter | well | 08:17 |
| Arbiter | :) | 08:17 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: See the love I get :-) | 08:18 |
| Arbiter | colorscheme [Source] 0.3.91-0ubuntu1 Release 2006-07-20 11:05:07 CEST | 08:18 |
| Arbiter | found :D | 08:18 |
| Arbiter | 29th | 08:18 |
| Arbiter | https://launchpad.net/+builds/floe ahahaha i can see the buildservers status too | 08:20 |
| Arbiter | coooool | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | yep, LP can be a wonderful thing | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | you just have to know all the +* | 08:21 |
| Arbiter | vernadsky (i386) | 08:21 |
| Arbiter | Current status | 08:21 |
| Arbiter | vernadsky (i386) is idle. | 08:21 |
| Arbiter | coooool | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | ok guys, I have time to do quick run through revus if you give me URLs | 08:25 |
| Arbiter | LaserJock, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2755 | 08:26 |
| Arbiter | agave | 08:26 |
| Arbiter | it's colorscheme renamed to agave | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | heh, odd | 08:26 |
| Arbiter | (thanks to the upstream author :P ) | 08:26 |
| fowlduck | hmm, how do you get < and > in sgml to not be recognized? | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | is it the same upstream version or is it new source too? | 08:27 |
| Arbiter | updated source | 08:27 |
| Arbiter | with patch | 08:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | fowlduck, "not recognised"? | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | > and < ? | 08:27 |
| fowlduck | Kamping_Kaiser, as in, escape them | 08:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yeh,them :$ beat me again lj | 08:27 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, ahh, of course | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | that's what it is in docbook anyway | 08:27 |
| Arbiter | LaserJock, i have to go | 08:28 |
| Arbiter | i'll have a look at comments tomorrow ;) | 08:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i think its a fairly universal w3c way of doing things | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | Arbiter: well, if I find anything on a quick run through I'll add a comment | 08:28 |
| Arbiter | LaserJock, thanks :) | 08:28 |
| Arbiter | bye | 08:29 |
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| ryanakca | LaserJock: from the Ubuntu one, yes | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | ahhh, stink. I missed a meeting yesterday | 08:39 |
| crimsun | bddebian: ivtools turned out to be a stinkin' bashism | 08:40 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Really? What was it? | 08:40 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: well... actually... it's a mix of the ubuntu one and the new source... | 08:40 |
| === bddebian still thinks it should be fixed "properly" :-) | ||
| crimsun | bddebian: when creating the shared libs' symlinks, pushd/popd were used | 08:40 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: I didn't patch or anything... I just used the old debian/ files and the new source | 08:40 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Ahh | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: and it works ok? | 08:41 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: yes :) | 08:41 |
| bddebian | crimsun: How's your python policy knowledge? :-) | 08:41 |
| crimsun | bddebian: short. | 08:41 |
| === bddebian just can't get any love :'-( | ||
| LaserJock | I recently went through it for python apps | 08:42 |
| LaserJock | but I'm not sure when it comes to extentions | 08:43 |
| bddebian | Well it built for me but I don't know how to check if I did it "right" | 08:43 |
| fowlduck | hmm, anyone know what the tag is for a requires argument in the sgml man-page? | 08:44 |
| fowlduck | s/requires/required/ | 08:44 |
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| fowlduck | <arg></arg> makes it optional | 08:44 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: well, the best thing I can say is to pass it to doko for a look-see | 08:44 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: he's pretty familiar with the python policy ;-) | 08:44 |
| bddebian | doko hasn't been answering my pings for two days even when he is in the channel :-( | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | I cornered him in #debian-python on OFTC the other day ;-) | 08:45 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: anything wrong packaging wise? | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | must have caught him at a good time though | 08:45 |
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| bddebian | "No body likes me, everybody hates me, I'm gonna eat some worms.." :-) | 08:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | bddebian, try vim bugs ;)- | 08:46 |
| coobra | bddebian: eat some for me to | 08:46 |
| bddebian | Yummy.. protein | 08:46 |
| coobra | nice :) | 08:47 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Still have a list of science packages that need "work" ? | 08:47 |
| LaserJock | of course :-) | 08:48 |
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| bddebian | URL? | 08:48 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: well, for bugs there is always https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience/+subscribedbugs | 08:48 |
| === fowlduck might cry if this manpage isn't fixed | ||
| LaserJock | I'm generating a merge list real quick | 08:49 |
| bddebian | pfft, bugs schmugs :-) | 08:49 |
| bddebian | fowlduck: What's the issue? | 08:49 |
| fowlduck | can't figure out how to format the sgml so that an argument is required | 08:49 |
| fowlduck | or an easy way to test it, so I have to build the package entirely to test it | 08:50 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/motuscience/merge.html is my merge list, the MoM link takes you to the REPORT file | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | some of them might not be in MoM if they are new enough | 08:52 |
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| fowlduck | YES, it worked | 08:52 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Oh, I requested a sync for xcircuit btw | 08:52 |
| LaserJock | I saw that, thanks | 08:52 |
| bddebian | Hmm, panthera still hasn't done scilab4 yet eh? | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=375136 | 08:54 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 375136 in typespeed "Subject: typespeed: New upstream version available" [Wishlist,Open] | 08:54 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: and... do I sent it to debian as well or ??? | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: well, its up to you. It is much easier for everybody if Debian updates their package | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | however, sometimes Debian doesn't really respond | 08:55 |
| ryanakca | hmmm.... and if we keep the one I made and just switched to the debian one whenever they update theirs? | 08:56 |
| bddebian | Aye, I sent an updated attal to Debian ages ago with no response :-( | 08:56 |
| bddebian | But we don't collaborate with Debian.... | 08:56 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: well, it is more work for us | 08:56 |
| === bddebian hides | ||
| tseng | the next person who says that is getting a hammer to the temple | 08:56 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: that's why I don't like us just throwing in new upstream versions without considering debian | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: that bug is 28 days old | 08:57 |
| bddebian | tseng: ? | 08:57 |
| tseng | ubuntu-mono does as much work in Debian as it does in Ubuntu | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: did you need to adjust anything to get the package to work? | 08:57 |
| tseng | sick and tired of the whining | 08:57 |
| fowlduck | does this look right for a synopsis? mac-robber [-V] DIRECTORIES... | 08:57 |
| bddebian | tseng: That was sarcasm man :-) | 08:57 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: yes... Makefile... because of where ubuntu installs stuff... | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: like what? | 08:57 |
| tseng | bddebian: the Hammer does not care for context | 08:58 |
| bddebian | Doh :-( | 08:58 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 08:58 |
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| ryanakca | LaserJock: and Debian messes around with the makefile in their version so sistpotty (methinks) said it was ok... | 08:58 |
| bddebian | Well then, I guess it's time for me to head home before I get smote with the hammer | 08:58 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: I'll pastebin the diff between the two | 08:58 |
| bddebian | Later folks | 08:58 |
| LaserJock | cya bddebian | 08:58 |
| tseng | if Debian is unresponsive you shouldnt hesitate to fix things in ubuntu cleanly if you can | 08:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | later | 08:59 |
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| bddebian | tseng: Well it built for dapper, now I have issues in Edgy :-( | 08:59 |
| LaserJock | tseng: but figuring out what unresponsive is is the hard part | 08:59 |
| Nafallo | ...and then add a debdiff to the bug you properly opened, right? :-) | 08:59 |
| tseng | direct contact with the maintainer fails | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | hey LaserJock | 08:59 |
| LaserJock | tseng: ok, in this case there is a wishlist bug open for the new upstream release that is 28 days old, no comments | 09:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | just reading the packageing guide it says "if a debian package is changed in ubuntu" does that include direct imports, or is there no such thing? | 09:01 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: diff betweet 0.4.4/Makefile, 0.5.1/Makefile (upstream one (-orig)) and 0.5.1 (mine)... http://pastebin.ca/95095 | 09:01 |
| tseng | a direct import is not a change | 09:01 |
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| azeem | ryanakca: unidiffs are easier to read | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | Kamping_Kaiser: a change would be to the source package, a sync doesn't change the source package | 09:02 |
| azeem | (IMHO) | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | +1 | 09:02 |
| ryanakca | azeem: aptitude search unidiff = nothin... | 09:03 |
| azeem | ryanakca: diff -u | 09:03 |
| ryanakca | ah | 09:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok, so if ubuntu synced in a package (1.2) from debian that /did/ have ubutnu chagnes (version 1.1) but 1.2 doesnt need changes - does that drop the ubuntuX from the end? | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | yep | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | that's a straight sync | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | if the Ubuntu changes are no longer needed | 09:04 |
| highvoltage | :( | 09:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cool. :) | 09:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks lj | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: what? | 09:04 |
| fowlduck | If one or the other of an argument are required by a command, how is it represented in the manpage? | 09:04 |
| ryanakca | azeem: LaserJock: unidiffs are here: http://pastebin.ca/95102 | 09:04 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: you ignore me | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | oh, sorry | 09:05 |
| highvoltage | :) | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | got lots going on | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | HELLO highvoltage!!! | 09:05 |
| highvoltage | ok, i understand | 09:05 |
| fowlduck | as in, either you put a -V or a Directory | 09:05 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: that's more like it! | 09:05 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: heres a number... oh, dear me... you got 234234..... poor you :) | 09:05 |
| ryanakca | oops... that was for highvoltage... lol | 09:05 |
| fowlduck | so, anyone know offhand? | 09:06 |
| highvoltage | lol | 09:06 |
| ryanakca | poor LaserJock as well... everybody hounding him... | 09:06 |
| crimsun | fowlduck: need more context. | 09:06 |
| tseng | fowlduck: at the top there is a command line example | 09:06 |
| highvoltage | it's not easy being a LaserJock of such... caliber | 09:06 |
| fowlduck | tseng, I'm curious about how to represent it in a manpage, I'm writing one | 09:07 |
| tseng | fowlduck: optional args will be in brackets | 09:07 |
| highvoltage | (sorry, pushing austin powers thing a bit too far there) | 09:07 |
| fowlduck | crimsun, with the mac-robber command you must either use the -V option alone, or a directory alone | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: hehe | 09:07 |
| fowlduck | crimsun, so either use mac-robber -V, or use mac-robber /path | 09:07 |
| crimsun | -V | Path, then | 09:08 |
| crimsun | as tseng alluded to, there are numerous examples in existing man pages | 09:08 |
| fowlduck | I've been trying to find one | 09:08 |
| fowlduck | sorry | 09:08 |
| crimsun | man 1 man | 09:09 |
| crimsun | note the use of the pipe as an OR operator | 09:09 |
| crimsun | (in the SYNOPSIS) | 09:10 |
| tseng | note that file in man 1 man isnt in brackets | 09:11 |
| tseng | its not optional | 09:11 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: ok, other than makefile... other errors :) ( if your too busy now, that's fine... I'll just bug you later :) ) | 09:11 |
| fowlduck | mmkay | 09:11 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: it seems ok to me. I guess I'd like to see you try to poke Debian once (pehaps with a patch for the new version or whatever) and then we can upload in Ubuntu if we get no response | 09:13 |
| ryanakca | kk... #ubuntu-dev ? | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: what about it? | 09:15 |
| ryanakca | I mean #debian-dev ?? | 09:15 |
| ryanakca | nope... whats the debian devel chan? | 09:16 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: just post a comment to that bug | 09:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | when debianising a package the 'copyright' bit is the upstream authors copyright? | 09:16 |
| LaserJock | or email the maintainer directly | 09:16 |
| crimsun | Kamping_Kaiser: yes | 09:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ty | 09:16 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | might quit while i'm ahead and beat the sun up :| | 09:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | @time Adelaide | 09:17 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Australia/Adelaide: July 22 2006, 04:47:37 | 09:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :S | 09:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | later all. good luck and have fun :) | 09:18 |
| LaserJock | have a good sleep and dream of beautiful packages ;-) | 09:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *gone* | 09:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 09:18 |
| fowlduck | I still don't know how to format this in sgml to get the desired output | 09:19 |
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| ryanakca | LaserJock: found the debian maintainer on irc... ask them what? if they're going to take care of the bug or ??? | 09:22 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: if they are planning on updating to the new upstream and tell them what you've tested | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | and if you can do anything to help | 09:23 |
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| ryanakca | kk | 09:23 |
| fowlduck | anyone know of any docs on docbook-to-man that include the available formats and their output? | 09:27 |
| LaserJock | I'm no help fowlduck, sorry. | 09:28 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, it's ok, thanks :) | 09:29 |
| crimsun | http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/docbook2man.1.html | 09:30 |
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| fowlduck | crimsun, I'm not seeing the formatting input and output in there, but thanks for looking | 09:32 |
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| coobra | :| | 09:37 |
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| crimsun | fowlduck: your question is imprecise. Please restate it. | 09:45 |
| fowlduck | crimsun, what sgml input produces what manpage output? | 09:45 |
| fowlduck | crimsun, http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/documentation/reference/html/cmdsynopsis.html | 09:49 |
| fowlduck | i gtg, thanks crimsun | 09:50 |
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| Toadstool | g'night everybody | 11:11 |
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| bluefoxicy | http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vulniconef6.png I suck at art | 12:04 |
| tseng | er | 12:05 |
| tseng | all i see there is a bunch of spam | 12:05 |
| tseng | way to go | 12:05 |
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| micahcowan | looks good to me: what's it for? | 12:07 |
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