=== mhz is now known as mhz_ === pygi tickles HedgeMage === HedgeMage sprays pygi [01:07] tickles* [01:07] ergh, damn, I am sleeping :P [01:07] okay, enjoy all [01:07] I go to sleep now :P [01:09] night night :) === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-146-161-59.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [01:24] RichEd: got my email? === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-58-40.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_ is now known as mhz === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === lucasvo_ [n=lucasvo@wservices.ch] has joined #edubuntu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu === lguerra [n=lguerra@201.245.166.237] has joined #edubuntu === lguerra [n=lguerra@201.245.166.237] has left #edubuntu [] === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [03:27] Howdy === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [03:40] re [03:44] wb mhz [03:45] thx, bddebian === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:26] Evening all [04:39] Heya sbalneav [04:39] Hey there bddebian \ [04:39] How's things this evening? [04:41] Fair to midland thanks. You? [04:42] Sittin' by the dock of the bay :) [04:43] Hackin' on LTSP :) [04:43] Nice [04:46] hacking on LTSP? [04:46] interesting? [04:46] looking better performance? [04:47] Thats one of the things I'm looking at. [04:48] The goal from LTSP's point of view is to merge our functionality in with Edubuntu's LTSP implementation, and convert over our development model to the MueKow model. [04:48] Then, help Fedora to get it included on their distro. === LaserJock_ [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [05:09] hmm, sbalneav, sorry, I am not familiar with MueKow model [05:09] That's what Edubuntu uses. [05:09] Building LTSP using the distro's own packages. [05:10] that is 'muekow' ? [05:10] nice [05:26] Amaranth: are there packages of willowng floating around? [05:32] Burgundavia: sitting in NEW last i heard [05:32] Amaranth: ah, very nice [05:38] For those interested... [05:38] http://www.eschoolnews.com/eti/2006/05/001414.php [05:39] http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php/Setting_Up_a_Sugar_Development_Environment_on_Ubuntu_Linux [05:39] That is OneLaptopPerChild [05:39] Sugar === Superman11 [n=atomik_t@toronto-HSE-ppp4083694.sympatico.ca] has joined #edubuntu === vertozia999 [n=atomik_t@toronto-HSE-ppp4083694.sympatico.ca] has joined #edubuntu [06:11] helllo === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu === th1a_desk [n=hoffman@pool-64-222-45-112.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_zZzZ === lecaros [n=JoseLeca@54-14-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === u01p2109 [n=arturs@84.237.187.73] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-241-32.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === pygi got his hosting finally. yay :) [09:18] pygi: what are you hosting? === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-161-59.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089ECE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-247-177.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === markit86 [n=markit86@80-43-28-130.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AED885.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jono@mtngprs4.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === th1a_desk [n=hoffman@pool-64-222-45-112.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === lecaros [n=JoseLeca@54-14-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === Napalm_Death [n=Napalm@bl6-125-209.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #edubuntu [03:02] hi [03:02] what is the default password in the livecd? [03:03] my niece was playing in tuxpaint [03:04] and i dont know how it appear a screen asking for login and pass [03:04] jsgotangco ? [03:05] SCUUUMMMMM [03:05] =) [03:05] it does? [03:05] :) [03:05] not sure just try ubuntu [03:05] it asks for the Linux user [03:06] ubuntu [03:06] i'll check [03:07] sorry im not sure either. I *rarely* try the livecd [03:09] Napalm_Death: iirc the account is 'ubuntu' with no password. You can set one with 'sudo passwd ubuntu' [03:10] ahh [03:10] it asks for the Linux password i thought the username was Linux [03:10] anyway can't try now [03:10] thanks [03:10] but [03:10] iirc=? [03:11] if i recall correctly [03:11] ahh [03:12] i'm in irc.ptnet.org [03:12] bye [03:21] thanks for interpeting jsgotangco :) === Xymor [i=enforcer@201.19.35.47] has joined #edubuntu === th1a_desk [n=hoffman@pool-64-222-45-112.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a_desk [n=hoffman@pool-64-222-45-112.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [04:56] Hello === lecaros [n=JoseLeca@54-14-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === vertozia999 [n=atomik_t@HSE-London-ppp195313.sympatico.ca] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-161-59.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan watches the tumbleweeds blow past === melle [n=melle@unaffiliated/melle] has joined #edubuntu [06:13] hello, is it possible to play a .vob file (DVD) on Edubuntu? [06:19] Weet iemand hier misschien welk programma ik nodig ben om een .vob file aftespelen? het is een sample file van een DVD [06:20] melle: english here [06:20] melle: and yes [06:20] sorry wrong channel :) [06:20] hmm, I wonder [06:20] !restrictedformats [06:20] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [06:21] melle: try the first link [06:21] Yagisan: Awsome thanks [06:22] no worries === melle [n=melle@cc516467-a.assen1.dr.home.nl] has joined #edubuntu === melle [n=melle@unaffiliated/melle] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AED885.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === melle [n=melle@unaffiliated/melle] has joined #edubuntu [07:23] Sorry for the rejoining :) kinda new to linux and i keep switching terminals hehe.. well im done now. === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@about/cooking/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-251-115.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@pc-84-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@pc-84-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-240-223.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #EDUBUNTU === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has left #EDUBUNTU ["Leaving"] === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:36] Hello === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [08:37] Does anyone think that the default theme on Edubuntu 6.06 looks a bit ugly? [08:37] hey Viper550 [08:37] no, it's the most beautiful thing ever ;-) [08:37] o rly? [08:37] What brings you to the edubuntu channel [08:37] LaserJock, hiya dude [08:38] I gathering suggestions for Edubuntu Edgy's default theme [08:38] cbx33: I'm guessing he wants to complain about our "professional" artwork ;-) [08:38] It's only one part that brought the whole train down on Edubuntu Dapper [08:38] The Wallpaper. [08:38] Viper550: have you talked to the Edubuntu "Artist in Chief"? [08:38] where is he? [08:38] She [08:39] is just sending an email out to the artwork list [08:39] hehhe, "ugly" is so subjective, unfrotunatelly. For many people I have showed Edubuntu, they like it. For others, red is not their favourite color and suggest the typical blue ;) [08:39] The green wallpaper doesn't go good with the red and dark orange theme [08:39] indeed [08:40] many here (me included) did not like the chalkboard idea [08:40] That's what brought the whole train down, alone EdubuntuColors looks pretty nice [08:40] Viper550: well, there's a story for that [08:40] My idea was to change the chalkboard to be black === mhz uses lighter desktops, so he is not very uncomfortable :D [08:40] Viper550: the background was sprung on us sort of last minute. We had no choice [08:40] Oh... [08:41] Viper550: please do so [08:41] I sent it to the ubuntu-art list already [08:41] LaserJock: plus... artwork in general for edubuntu was all a mystery [08:41] Viper550: our new head artist contributed a nice background that is also shipped with Edubuntu [08:41] I remember offering help, asking about it, poking a bit, etc....no ideas [08:42] I know, the Homies one looks pretty nice [08:42] yeah, that's the one [08:42] ya mon [08:42] thatz tha one [08:42] But, I'm concerned about what they get out of the box AS DEFAULT === mhz too [08:43] Viper550, well [08:43] as we're in control of that this release, it gives us chance to really shine === mhz is preparing artwork material for Chilean edubuntu users/lab ;) [08:43] Viper550: anyway, hopefully real soon the art team will hear from our Artist-in-Chief any you guys can hash out some good artwork for edgy [08:43] AliasVegas has just sent a post to the list [08:43] ah good [08:43] I saw it just now === mhz syncs email client [08:44] Hey LaserJock, have you used ogras script lately? [08:44] no, I haven't done *anything* put packaging support for the last 2 days [08:44] for syncing? [08:44] Higher-Education eh? Like something for High School? [08:44] ok [08:44] that and trying to figure out emacs [08:44] Viper550, yes and university [08:45] Viper550, I'm able to answer these questions because AliasVegas is my wife, incase you didn't know [08:45] :p [08:45] Yeah, maybe this higher education theme should aim towards Gen X === mhz thinks all edubuntu members should have an alias '@edubuntu.org' [08:45] mhz, we do [08:45] well I have one :p [08:45] AliasVegas is not an edubuntu member? [08:46] yes she is [08:46] Generation X likes pimping' out stuff, and if they can have a pre-pimped desktop that looks pretty cool...it would be the time of their life! [08:46] it's also in an educational setting so it probably can't be too wild [08:46] LaserJock, too true [08:47] indeed [08:47] we need a nice solid theme that sets the scene [08:47] I know, maybe we should go for something simliar to what Ubuntu Edgy is going for [08:47] generation X is probably the parents of most people here [08:47] with customised versions for younger and older users [08:47] Amaranth: lol [08:47] true [08:48] Okay, so for icons, we ship maybe Tangerine or Human from Ubuntu [08:48] NOT Tango Brown, it clashes even more with that green wallpaper [08:48] HedgeMage: it seems I have been in Edubuntu Handbook (former cookbook) team in LP, or you mean a diff ne? [08:48] one [08:49] "The generation following the post-World War II baby boom, especially people born in the United States and Canada from the early 1960s to the late 1970s." [08:49] My definition of Generation X are teens in our modern life [08:50] Or, maybe we should call them the MTV Generation, or the Web 2.0 Generation [08:50] so you're saying if you're a twentysomething you're generation x [08:50] oh, people using Xbox? [08:50] but that's wrong [08:50] teenagers are generation y [08:50] No, that changed in this whole interconnected landscape with messengers and blogs and all that! [08:51] Viper550: just the Ubuntu generation :D [08:51] so you're saying bloggers stole their parents name? [08:51] :P [08:51] you're not making any sense [08:51] The Culture Wars [08:52] Sorry for the non-sensical terms, I don't know which one to use [08:52] 1982-2000 is Generation Y [08:52] HedgeMage: I am approved here -> https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-handbook [08:52] what's pre 1982? [08:52] X [08:52] I mean, the teenagers of today [08:53] mhz: whats with that team? [08:53] Never mind on the terms... [08:53] Let's debate artwork style, not human generations! [08:53] pygi: iirc, HedgeMage or you asked me to join a team.. wasn't it it? [08:54] technically the MTV Generation would be the parents of teenagers around today too ;) [08:54] mhz: right, and you are joined already :P [08:54] I'll make a note of all this and send it to AliasVegas [08:54] pygi: oh, so someone joined me? [08:54] Okay, the iGeneration [08:54] or the eGeneration? [08:55] mhz: Mauricio Hernandez? :P [08:55] sip [08:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_generation [08:55] Google Generation [08:55] look at the team page :P [08:55] pygi: so I am confused... which team was I not listed in? [08:55] mhz: none :P === mhz rests [08:56] pygi: and where should get the SVN current version of what is already written? [08:56] so Viper550 [08:57] so what? [08:57] cn I ask a favour of you [08:57] what? [08:57] make a theme? [08:57] mhz: mail hedge about svn access [08:57] pygi: okis [08:57] AliasVegas asked in the edubuntu meeting the other day for everyone who was interested, to send one line stating [08:57] What they didn't like abotu the dapper themes [08:57] and one line about what they would like to see in edgy [08:57] mhz: :) [08:59] Sent [08:59] received [08:59] she'll look at it in a few minutes [09:00] Here was my comment for Dapper if anyone else wants to know: The Green Wallpaper, and the offering of Brown Icons along with the orange and red theme causes major clashing! [09:00] And my Edgy idea: Something more consistent that actually goes together without clashing. [09:00] yes I agree [09:00] I think that sticking to the redish colours is important [09:00] because that is a known almost brand of edubuntu now [09:01] Yeah, we keep the Yellow and Orange idea, but NO GREEN [09:02] no, no green [09:02] Good. [09:02] OH yeah, hilarious comment: When I originally responded to the mailing list about Dapper's theme, I described it as like "Xmasubuntu" [09:02] cbx33, before i jump into my van and drive across the country agian ... could you show lisa the three themes in the edubuntu artwork package ? she seems not aware that we have a university theme (at least the try of one) in dapper already [09:02] heheh [09:03] ogra_, I will it is probably my fault [09:03] The 3 themes were: EdubuntuColors, the edubuntucolors GTK theme, Ubuntulooks metacity, and the Gartoon icons [09:03] nope [09:03] i showed her it on my machine a while back [09:03] Then EdubuntuPlain, replacing Gartoon with TangoBrown [09:03] the three themes were "default" , "young" and "plain" [09:04] but I never got to show her the other one [09:04] ogra_, please accept my apologies [09:04] Not on Dapper [09:04] sudo dpkg-reconfigure edubuntu-artwork on a fresh install lets you select them ... [09:04] I'm about to try and fix grasynco [09:04] ogra_, have a safe journey [09:04] cbx33, dont worry, its easy t oversee :) [09:04] What are so different about them? [09:05] ping HedgeMage [09:05] Viper550, btw, it would be nice if you could stop ranting about the theme in the artwork list ... i developed the gtk and windown colors on top of an orange wallpaper that was fitting perfectly, we had to include the chalkboard due to a management decision [09:06] Oh [09:06] so there was no time to adjust the colors [09:06] So that's what happened [09:06] (i agree with you btw) [09:07] if we had had the choice, we'd have made the edubuntu young wallpaper from lisa the default [09:07] ogra_, I still cannot get rsyncer to work :S [09:07] I think a shift back to full Yellow and Orange (or usage of a neutral wallpaper, like maybe a BLACKboard) would be better [09:08] yes, i saw the mail, i tend to disagree that black/dark grey is good for a school wallpaper ... you will create depressive pupils :) [09:08] ogra_, totally agree [09:08] we shuld have something fresh and colorful ... i hope we're not bound to the chalkboard in edgy as well === cbx33 too [09:09] ogra_, are we not making the final artowrk decisions this time round? [09:09] but thats something we need to hear from mark about ... i'll talk to him in wiesbaden (if he comes) [09:09] everyone stop downloading knot-1 cds, i need mine :) [09:09] cbx33, as i understood the artwork teams make the, but i need agreement frm mark first [09:09] *them [09:09] ogra_, http://pastebin.ca/96264 [09:10] Amaranth, bittorrent is a great invetion :P [09:10] that is the script downloaded straight from people.ubuntu. [09:10] ogra_: d'oh [09:10] ;) [09:10] I'm just gonna modify it [09:10] i was 50% done and it had more time left than a full download normally takes [09:10] to do alternative and desktop [09:11] Amaranth, bte i'll be offline for some hours while driving, if you see Keybuk or infinity in -devel, poke them to process willowng in NEW [09:11] will do [09:11] have a nice trip [09:11] heh ... [09:11] moving if you dont like to is never pleasant :) [09:11] in 4 days i spent 30 hours in a car last weekend [09:12] brb [09:12] (even though i like the new house ... i'd be happy not having to do the moving :P ) [09:12] why do you have to move? [09:13] ogra_, http://pastebin.ca/96270 - updated [09:13] my GF's mother died in march ... we inherited a huuuuge house with a beautiful garden and tons of nifty tech gadgets [09:13] neither desktop nor live nor nothing works [09:13] something in the will about having to live in it or you lose it? [09:13] desktop must be in the folder daily-live [09:14] or is it because the desktop cd is broken [09:14] alternative must be named alterate [09:14] ah ok [09:14] alternate? [09:14] or alterate? [09:14] alternate ... look in the folders on cdimage ;) [09:15] ok [09:16] back now [09:16] ok I'll send you a patch [09:16] mhz: you're already on the right one, don't worry about it [09:16] hi cbx33 you were looking for me? [09:16] HedgeMage, you know the dclassical music question I asked you about [09:16] rsync rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage lets you browse the rsync server btw [09:16] ahhh thanks ogra_ [09:17] HedgeMage, that 5th symphony is the bit the little girl plays...dum dum dadum, dum dum dadum [09:17] but not the actual opening theme to the film, or so my mum, who is trying to find the track says [09:17] :p [09:18] cbx33: ahh I thought what the little girl plays was what you were talking about [09:19] cbx33: dangit now I'm going to have to get bethoven from netflix :P [09:19] no :p [09:19] HedgeMage: k [09:21] hehe [09:21] oh well, at least TT likes it IIRC :) [09:22] back [09:27] I'm going to work on a new theme === lecaros [n=JoseLeca@54-14-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [09:48] w00t it's working [09:48] :D [09:52] Anyone here using SchoolTool and/or CanDo ? === melle [n=melle@unaffiliated/melle] has joined #edubuntu [10:38] cbx33: what's working? === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu [11:07] HedgeMage, the rsyncer.sh script :D [11:08] now I can update grasynco tomorrow [11:08] cbx33: cool :) [11:09] yup [11:10] hm i just typed ctrl+S in my terminal (wrong window) looked like he saved my terminl does anyone know where i can find that save? === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AED885.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #edubuntu [11:39] Hello. I've been out of the loop for a while. The last two weeks have been crazy. [11:39] Hey DanielC === DanielC waves [11:40] End of school is a busy time for us. === Southron [n=Southron@64-18-98-5.adsl.catt.com] has joined #edubuntu [11:44] I'm trying to install Edubuntu 6.06 from CD-R onto an HP Pavillion 6636. It boots from the CD and begins the installation, getting through all the language steps, but then complains that it can't find the CD-ROM drive (even thought it obviously has been using it up to that point). Any ideas? [11:44] The step is titled "Detect and mount CD-ROM." [11:48] Southron: im sorry i cant help you but if you wont get some help here because they are bussy you could go to #ubnutu edubuntu is based on ubunutu and i think they can also help you. [11:48] Thanks -- I'll try there, too. [11:49] Anyone here using SchoolTool and/or CanDo ? [11:51] [21:52] Anyone here using SchoolTool and/or CanDo ? [11:51] :P [11:51] yeah [11:52] [23:50] Anyone here using SchoolTool and/or CanDo ? [11:52] :P [11:52] sorry, havent really used it [11:54] one the real pending things we have is testing schooltool [11:54] most people dont even know we have it [11:55] I'm not even sure what it is. [11:55] also, iirc, we used to ship moodel [11:55] moodle [11:55] I've heard of it often though. [11:55] it is a very cool tool for schools [11:55] :) [11:55] you can manage courses, students, teachers, timetables [11:55] I think it's for administration (scheduling classes?) [11:55] classrooms [11:55] ah [11:56] Ok, at least I have an idea now. [11:56] DanielC: what format is the OO.o starter guide in? [11:56] yeah, and CanDo is supposed to keep track of students learning [11:56] LaserJock: OpenDocument format. [11:57] LaserJock: Translation to HTML is possible with modest data loss (e.g. it'd be one big page). [11:57] DanielC: hmm, that's a bit sticky then for the dependecies [11:57] I would think you would want OO.o as a dep [11:57] but I see your point [11:58] yeah... [11:58] I see both sides of the argument. [11:58] I'm happy to add OOo as a dependency. [11:58] I just wanted to raise that point. [11:59] DanielC: CanDo -> http://www.careercenter.arlington.k12.va.us/cando/use_cando_main.htm [11:59] *click* [12:00] and SchoolTool -> http://www.schooltool.org/ [12:00] *click* [12:00] ;) [12:01] mhz: Is SchoolTool approaching 1.0 ? [12:01] My employer keeps asking when it'll be ready. === DanielC doesn't know much about SchoolTool except that his boss wants it done yesterday ;) [12:02] afaik, SchoolTool 2006 alpha2 [12:02] Ok, so it's still a while. [12:02] DanielC: lol :P [12:02] however, this looks pretty cool [12:02] http://www.schooltool.org/st-products/schooltool-2006/schooltool-2006-alpha2 [12:02] *click* [12:03] What's it written on? Is it server-side/web-based? [12:04] iirc, Zope [12:05] and a Zope DB engine [12:05] ok [12:05] which? [12:05] no idea [12:05] I am just an end-user [12:05] ;) === Southron [n=Southron@64-18-98-5.adsl.catt.com] has left #edubuntu []