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| nixternal | http://www.buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/images/mainwindow.png | 12:55 |
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| nixternal | i was thinking of something along the lines of ^^ for a one stop shop for help, docs, and the community | 12:56 |
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| Laser_away | nixternal: ohhhh, spiffy :-) | 01:02 |
| nixternal | why thank you | 01:02 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 01:11 |
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| nixternal | mdke: ping? | 02:16 |
| Burgwork | nixternal, it is 1am there | 02:16 |
| nixternal | ahhh, yes, so i am guessing him to be asleep | 02:16 |
| nixternal | Burgwork: any idea where i can get the Ubuntu Plone theme? | 02:17 |
| Burgwork | sorry, no idea | 02:18 |
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| nixternal | where is jsgotangco hiding?? | 05:28 |
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| robotgeek | hmm, how did the meeting go? i had an absolutely horrible flight (12 hours travel!) | 06:47 |
| nixternal | it was a pretty good meeting | 06:51 |
| nixternal | ouch..where did you travel to and from? | 06:51 |
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| robotgeek | huntsville to Newark, NJ | 06:52 |
| robotgeek | it was supposed to take only 5 hours :) | 06:53 |
| nixternal | jeesh | 06:53 |
| crimsun | that sucks. | 06:53 |
| nixternal | that shouldnt even take 5 hours direct..that is a 2 to 2.5 hour flight | 06:53 |
| crimsun | granted, I spent 19 hours for Baltimore, MD -> Charlotte, NC. | 06:53 |
| nixternal | round trip would be 5 maybe | 06:53 |
| nixternal | bwi is garbage | 06:53 |
| robotgeek | connecting and stuff | 06:53 |
| nixternal | so is dulles..actually all airports around dc are garbage..but i shall move back there one of these days..i miss the bay so bad | 06:54 |
| crimsun | it wasn't even BWI, it was the tornados in Charlotte that prevented our flights from taking off | 06:54 |
| robotgeek | i had to come into NY and get stucj in a traffic jam | 06:54 |
| robotgeek | crimsun: where are you located at, if i may ask? | 06:54 |
| nixternal | traffic jam in NY? | 06:54 |
| nixternal | nahhh ;) | 06:54 |
| robotgeek | the rain created so much trouble. | 06:55 |
| crimsun | robotgeek: I'm based out of Greensboro, NC, but I fly to Atlanta, GA, and Dallas, TX regularly | 06:55 |
| robotgeek | crimsun: hmm, i am in Huntsville, Al | 06:56 |
| robotgeek | i tht maybe we could meet up if we were close enough : | 06:56 |
| crimsun | unfortunately Huntsville is a bit of a jog | 06:58 |
| robotgeek | yeah, 10 hours of drive is a bit too much :) | 06:58 |
| robotgeek | maybe we could meet in Altanta sometime, heh | 06:59 |
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| theCore | a new guide? | 07:24 |
| theCore | trunk/ubuntu/switching/ ... | 07:25 |
| theCore | but only one file with content | 07:25 |
| theCore | and it's not valid | 07:25 |
| theCore | actually there no content ... :( | 07:27 |
| Burgundavia | theCore: hmm | 07:27 |
| Burgundavia | it might all be invalidated if that soc students gets done | 07:27 |
| theCore | Burgundavia: what do you mean? | 07:28 |
| Burgundavia | there is a google summer of code student writing some code to do automatic migrations of data | 07:29 |
| theCore | oh, so the guide wasn't about introducing Windows peoples to Linux? | 07:30 |
| theCore | (said like that, I wonder we would need a such guide) | 07:30 |
| theCore | we a the desktop guide for that :) | 07:31 |
| theCore | s/a/have/ | 07:31 |
| theCore | just a question like that, where are revisions < 98? | 07:43 |
| theCore | nevermind | 07:45 |
| theCore | I found them | 07:45 |
| theCore | they were just not logged | 07:46 |
| Burgundavia | theCore: the guide also has bits about moving data over from windows | 07:48 |
| theCore | Burgundavia: I deduced it | 07:49 |
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| Burgundavia | perfect, smart people are always good have aboard ;P | 07:49 |
| theCore | :) | 07:50 |
| theCore | the history log of the commits is quite interesting | 07:51 |
| theCore | first commit: r1 | chris | 2004-11-10 10:57:39 -0500 (Wed, 10 Nov 2004) | 2 lines | 07:52 |
| theCore | almost 2 years | 07:52 |
| Burgundavia | ah, chris | 07:52 |
| Burgundavia | most of the old doc team from the warty days is gone | 07:52 |
| Burgundavia | I am only one | 07:52 |
| theCore | sad... | 07:53 |
| Burgundavia | life happens | 07:53 |
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| Burgundavia | heh | 07:53 |
| Burgundavia | jerome is only two months behind me | 07:53 |
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| theCore | I started with Hoary, since then I been hooked :) | 07:58 |
| theCore | Warty development must had been fun | 07:58 |
| Burgundavia | most of warty development was done behind closed doors | 07:59 |
| Burgundavia | it wasn't called ubuntu until that rc release | 07:59 |
| Burgundavia | ok, I just realized I don't care about what the artwork team talks about on their mailig list | 07:59 |
| Burgundavia | time to bin that one | 07:59 |
| HedgeMage | lol | 07:59 |
| theCore | Burgundavia: I should too | 08:00 |
| theCore | Burgundavia: I kept this list simply because Mark was posting on it | 08:00 |
| Burgundavia | bah, I have better things todo with my time | 08:02 |
| theCore | *poof* ubuntu-art gone... | 08:05 |
| Burgundavia | yep, open clipart is next | 08:05 |
| Burgundavia | man, this feels great! | 08:05 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 08:06 |
| theCore | *poof* ubuntu-doc-commit gone... | 08:08 |
| theCore | I got `svn log' instead | 08:08 |
| Burgundavia | doc commit has been borked recently anyway | 08:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 2 questions - is there an ubuntu-doc package to check for bugs against? and i want to move a page into CatagoryCleanup and CatagoryDocumentation - can i do that after making the page? | 08:11 |
| Burgundavia | yes and yes | 08:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks | 08:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i noticed a missing space - should i send a diff to -doc for a 1 character change, or can someone here fix it? | 08:13 |
| Burgundavia | Kamping_Kaiser: I can | 08:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | <filename>changelog</filename>slightly in this case to reflect <- missing space before 'slightly', line 817 of UbuntuDocsSVN/generic/packagingguide/Cbasic.xml | 08:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | * C/basic.xml | 08:15 |
| Burgundavia | Kamping_Kaiser: done | 08:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks | 08:21 |
| Burgundavia | oops, forgot to mention you, sorry | 08:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol np. its 1 byte | 08:22 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | Burgundavia, ping? can you look at another of those pages for me? i'm not sure this one is correct | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | Kamping_Kaiser: sure | 08:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | same file, liune 1348 -> 1358 - shouldnt that itemizedlist be inside the note? | 08:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | bbl | 08:47 |
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| Burgundavia | Kamping_Kaiser: good catch, yes | 08:57 |
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| nixternal | g'nite | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | Kamping_Kaiser: argh, bug in the Packaging Guide? no way :-) | 09:07 |
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| Burgundavia | LaserJock: they don't exist | 09:18 |
| LaserJock | I don't think it's possible, my spelling and grammar are perfect ;-) | 09:18 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock: right... | 09:19 |
| Burgundavia | Kamping_Kaiser: why have you not applied for svn write yet? | 09:19 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | oh, burg has gone | 09:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | because i dont often make sugestions, i just lurk around and sugest when i think suitable (usualy just after each release :P) | 09:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and Laser_away - of course your perfect - its the package thats broken it ;) | 09:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | also, the 'REVU' link on ubuntu.xml is just a standard link - it doesnt show its external...perhaps it could somehow? | 10:02 |
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| Madpilot | no idea | 10:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | nm. bbl. dinner :) | 10:03 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | back | 11:08 |
| mdke | nixternal: pong | 11:10 |
| mdke | nixternal: ah, plone? Ubuntu hasn't used plone for a long time! If absolutely essential I suppose we can dig it out, but I'm not sure | 11:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | is there someone i should ping specifically to talk about the packing guide,? | 11:21 |
| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, Laser_away | 11:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mdke, thanks. i'll ping him then | 11:25 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | Laser_away, http://packages.qa.ubuntu.org/ http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/ dont seem to exist, they are referenced for 'package information' in bugs.xml . | 12:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh hang on | 12:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | its http://packages.qa.debian.org, ubuntu -> debian | 12:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Laser_away, line 133, shouldnt 'Process' be a lowercase P? | 12:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and the qa. problem is line 53 fyi | 12:08 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser feels like bug tips should be somewhere else, but i'm not sure where it would go | ||
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| Kamping_Kaiser | (bugs.xml) line 263 - "ubuntu uses ..." - shouldnt that be 'launchpad uses'? | 12:19 |
| mpt_ | nixternal, is the switching-from-windows guide supposed to work at the moment? I get XML errors from yelp | 12:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | perhaps in apendix -> additional resources it should be clear they are all external links (it is if you hover a mouse over, but perhaps a sentence about it?) | 12:24 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | Laser_away, appendix.xml, line 273, toyour, missing space | 12:47 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | random ping : should i email the diff (its about 40 lines of not much) to the list or to Laser_away directly? | 01:01 |
| bimberi | hey Kamping_Kaiser. My one diff was submitted to the list (if that helps) | 01:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | bimberi, the only time i have sent a diff i went direct to robotgeek , but if they go publicly thats cool | 01:10 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser will email soon' | ||
| === bimberi went by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Contribute | ||
| === Kamping_Kaiser lols. how novel, folowing the rules ;) | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | emailed. | 01:14 |
| === bimberi likes to start that way ;) | ||
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| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser: list definitely is better, that way we can all see you're contributing :) | 02:13 |
| mdke | thanks for that | 02:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok, will do mdke :) | 02:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | np | 02:14 |
| jsgotangco | evening | 02:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi | 02:15 |
| mpt_ | Ugh, this is depressing | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm did the docteam meeting happen? | 02:18 |
| mpt_ | jsgotangco, yes, 17 hours ago | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | in this channel? i dont see a -meeting log | 02:19 |
| mpt_ | In this channel, -meeting was being used for marketing | 02:19 |
| jsgotangco | cheers | 02:19 |
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| mpt_ | So I decided to write an example help page | 02:20 |
| mpt_ | to show how to structure a help page | 02:20 |
| mpt_ | And the topic I chose was "I installed a program but now I can?t find it" | 02:20 |
| mpt_ | But, holy crap, that's a horrible problem to solve | 02:21 |
| mpt_ | The simplest method that I can see includes typing "which nameofprogram" in a Terminal | 02:21 |
| mpt_ | and copying-and-pasting the results into the Applications Menu Editor | 02:22 |
| ompaul | mpt_, only works if the program is on the existing paths and not all programs are | 02:22 |
| mpt_ | but that's lame-o | 02:22 |
| mpt_ | and, yeah | 02:22 |
| ompaul | for that case what is needed is locatedb and a clever grep of the output which sees "bin" and tests for elf type | 02:23 |
| ompaul | then you can get some of it | 02:23 |
| mpt_ | You can drag a program directly from a "Search for Files" window into the panel, yay | 02:23 |
| mpt_ | But can you drag it into alacarte? Noooooooo | 02:23 |
| ompaul | but what if the program has a name like sshd and you installed openssh-server | 02:24 |
| mpt_ | ompaul, I'm concerned with graphical programs | 02:24 |
| mpt_ | sshd you shouldn't ever want in the menus anyway, correct? | 02:24 |
| ompaul | mpt_, well if you were doing strange things and setting up configs and tearing them down again you might | 02:25 |
| ompaul | sshd has many uses | 02:25 |
| ompaul | so I would not concur that for all use cases you would not want it in your menus | 02:25 |
| ompaul | or openvpn which installs with the idea that openvpn is a daemon however what I am doing at the moment I had to borrow one non ubuntu laptop from someone to create the network effects and it has a lovely little feature that you can drag a config file out and right click on it and this invokes the program | 02:27 |
| ompaul | I am setting up network one - tearing it down setting up network two and tearing it down and so on | 02:28 |
| ompaul | and really that is what I should be doing now ;-) | 02:28 |
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| LaserJock | Kamping_Kaiser: something must have gone wrong with the URLs, those should be for Debian | 06:57 |
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| nixternal | hola compadres | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | hi nixternal | 07:12 |
| nixternal | wasabi LaserJock | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | hmm, tryint to clean up a little mess on LP | 07:22 |
| nixternal | heh, sounds like fun | 07:22 |
| LaserJock | I need to revert some changes that somebody did | 07:22 |
| nixternal | now im in the process of setting up a little ubuntu server to do some local testing | 07:22 |
| nixternal | malicious or no? | 07:23 |
| LaserJock | not malicious, just misguided ;-) | 07:23 |
| nixternal | joy | 07:25 |
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| theCore | hi LaserJock | 07:39 |
| LaserJock | hi theCore | 07:42 |
| theCore | someone has sent a patch for the packaging guide on the ML, you may want to check it out | 07:43 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:47 |
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