[12:41] <adamant1988> hello all
[12:45] <jenda> hello adamant1988
[12:45] <jenda> how are you?
[12:45] <adamant1988> I'm cooled down a bit
[12:45] <adamant1988> I see you have an OP inside Ubuntuforums?
[12:46] <jenda> yes, I do
[12:46] <jenda> :)
[12:46] <adamant1988> nice.
[12:46] <jenda> I'm forum staff now
[12:46] <adamant1988> I haven't checked the mailing list, anything interesting?
[12:48] <jenda> umm... there was a meeting :)
[12:48] <adamant1988> I'm still a little cheesed about Mr.Kenyon using ideas that we created without consulting us, but I realize that canonical's resources are greater than mine.
[12:48] <jenda> Wrong
[12:49] <adamant1988> what happened in the meeting?
[12:49] <jenda> You should realise you do not need to consult authors of ideas to be able to use them. Did you ask Linus or RMS to use their work?
[12:49] <jenda> adamant1988: see ML
[12:50] <adamant1988> yes, but the only honorable thing to do is give credit where it's due... everyone knows that linus made the kernel, everyone knows that ubuntu is made on debian and so forth.
[12:50] <adamant1988> I'm done talking about it anyway
[12:50] <jenda> Good, thanks.
[12:51] <jenda> THe next time this happens (if there is one), please start by talking to the person in private - the worst you can do is start flaming the person in a public channel etc.
[12:52] <adamant1988> I actually sent mr Kenyon a letter privately.  But I got myself all worked up and decided to comment on the mailing list =\
[12:52] <jenda> ... and #ubuntuforums
[12:53] <jenda> That's OK, adamant1988, but please be more considerate next time.
[12:53] <adamant1988> Oh, I went there yes, but they were pretty clueless as to what was actually happening
[12:53] <adamant1988> I didn't give any names and so forth
[12:53] <adamant1988> Jenda, perhaps you would be the best one to talk to about the marketing approaches we're undertaking
[12:54] <jenda> hm?
[12:54] <adamant1988> I don't think that flashy web ads, and other 'online' methods of advertising are going to be as effective as one on one advertising
[12:54] <adamant1988> I've been conducting an experiment locally to try to prove my theory, so far it seems accurate.
[12:56] <adamant1988> Tell a person about Ubuntu, and they forget.  SHOW them however, and they'll get interested
[12:57] <adamant1988> I think that working closer with and supporting the loco teams would be a very very very good idea.
[01:00] <jenda> yp
[01:01] <adamant1988> In all seriousness, I live amongst technophobes and I've been able to distribute a hefty amount of Ubuntu burned CDs by going to the local library and plugging in my laptop
[01:02] <jenda> that's very cool
[01:17] <jenda> hello Madpilot
[01:17] <Madpilot> hi
[01:17] <adamant1988> hey Madpilot
[01:19] <jbrouhard> and I'm wondering how hard it would be fore me to come up with my own design
[01:20] <jenda> that reminds me, jbrouhard... any luck with SU?
[01:21] <jenda> @lart jenda's memory
[01:27] <adamant1988> do do do
[01:48] <jbrouhard> jenda I'm not sure.. I have two designs, but have not had time to do a third one.
[01:48] <jbrouhard> School, work, etc have been taking up my time
[01:48] <jenda> No problem. Might want to check the mailing list.
[01:51] <jenda> ah
[01:51] <jenda> well, archives :)
[01:51] <jenda> i just sent it.
[01:52] <jbrouhard> Hmm
[01:52] <jbrouhard> *realizes he doesn't have thunderbird installed.
[01:52] <jbrouhard> BRB
[01:58] <jbrouhard> jenda, Can you gimme a link to the mailing list ?
[01:58] <jenda> sure, jsec
[02:01] <adamant1988> ...
[02:05] <jenda> jbrouhard: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/
[02:05] <jenda> sorry for delay :(
[02:12] <nixternal> jenda: do you have access to or anyone for that matter, to the default Ubuntu theme that is used at ubuntu.com?  i thought it was a Plone theme, however it looks very similar to a MoinMoin theme called Balanced2
[02:14] <jenda> nixternal: I do not, but mdke probably does
[02:15] <nixternal> he is next on my list..and jsgotangco...because he just did the Philippines ubuntu site...
[02:15] <nixternal> no need for me to make Ubuntu Chicago any different I don't think
[05:05] <adamant1988> hello everyone
[05:07] <nixternal> hidey ho neighbor
[05:07] <adamant1988> hey nixternal
[05:07] <nixternal> im about to explode
[05:07] <adamant1988> hey are you much good with wifi?
[05:08] <nixternal> my blood is boiling right now
[05:08] <adamant1988> lol.
[05:08] <nixternal> my 14 yo neighbor got me into haxorin' wifi
[05:08] <nixternal> go figure
[05:08] <adamant1988> I'm having the worst time getting my wifi to work on my laptop
[05:08] <nixternal> the kid is an evil genius
[05:09] <nixternal> let me guess....ndiswrapper?
[05:09] <adamant1988> no, haven't tried that yet =\
[05:09] <adamant1988> not sure what to do with it
[05:09] <nixternal> i am only good with cards that can rfmon
[05:09] <nixternal> what is the make and model?
[05:09] <nixternal> #ubuntu-classroom
[05:09] <adamant1988> Belkin uhm, let me find the box for it...
[05:09] <nixternal> not in here
[06:31] <adamant1988> hello all
[06:34] <nixternal> bah
[06:36] <adamant1988> I got it working nixternal
[06:36] <adamant1988> I'm now wireless :)
[06:36] <nixternal> what was the trick?
[06:36] <adamant1988> firmware problem
[06:36] <nixternal> i forget you are on ubuntu
[06:36] <adamant1988> that forum link worked perfectly
[06:36] <nixternal> this is my theme song
[06:37] <nixternal> ya, it has worked for me in the past even for kubuntu setups
[06:37] <adamant1988> yeah, it was cool, that firmware was installed and the lights on my card lit up and started working
[06:55] <adamant1988> anywho Burgundavia, Ubuntu is about people, community, no?
[06:55] <Burgundavia> absolutely
[06:56] <Burgundavia> without people, code is nothing
[06:56] <adamant1988> that's my theory
[06:56] <adamant1988> Ubuntu will not be spread best from flashy websites, online reviews, or any such thing.  Ubuntu will be spread by people.
[06:57] <adamant1988> that's the theory. I'm trying to prove it.  I'm going to do two seperate 'ad campaigns' locally and see which has a better attention:conversion ratio
[06:58] <Burgundavia> hmm, interesting
[06:58] <nixternal> quit talking and start doing!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:58] <nixternal> ;)
[06:58] <adamant1988> I am doing nixternal
[06:58] <nixternal> hehe
[06:58] <adamant1988> I have squared away 60 square feet of floor space for 'ubuntu space' in a local store.
[06:59] <nixternal> must be nice...60 sq. ft. in chicago would be as much as 2 months rent
[06:59] <adamant1988> This is WV, space is plentiful
[07:00] <adamant1988> basically, I'm going to set up demo computers and a wifi hotspot
[07:36] <adamant1988> lol
[08:50] <jenda> adamant1988: ping
[08:51] <adamant1988> yes Jenda?
[08:51] <jenda> thanks for the mailing list reply.
[08:53] <adamant1988> I'm sorry for it.  I'm bipolar w/ psychotic features (paranoia, hallucinations, etc.)... I hadn't had my meds in almost 48 hours... I'm still reeling from it it.
[08:53] <jenda> It's no problem. I respect that you could publically apologize and set things right. Not everyone can do that.
[08:54] <jenda> BTW, if you manage to set up what you described above in a local store, be sure to document every single step you make, take pictures and if possible, even films, interview the owner etc. It will all be priceless for SU
[08:55] <adamant1988> I'll do my best
[08:55] <adamant1988> I need to sleep
[08:55] <adamant1988> gnight
[08:57] <jenda> good night.
[08:58] <nixternal> bah
[09:02] <ormiret> bah?
[09:04] <nixternal> that is the "im about to pass out" sound
[09:05] <ormiret> :)
[09:05] <nixternal> g'nite
[12:26] <n3storm> hi everyone
[12:27] <n3storm> I just finnished registering at forums and mailing list
[12:29] <n3storm> jenda: are you around?
[12:35] <jenda> yep
[12:35] <jenda> n3storm: great that you came around :)
[12:35] <n3storm> I am registering everywhere :D
[12:35] <jenda> We had a meeting yesterday, and we basically agreed that we love your idea...
[12:35] <n3storm> thanks!
[12:36] <n3storm> I was reading now about the magazine and I find the wikipage a bit odd
[12:36] <jenda> we would like you to refine it a bit more, if you could.
[12:36] <n3storm> sure!
[12:36] <jenda> Yes, the magazine wiki will have to be remade, too
[12:37] <jenda> It's specced, and asigned to Rich Johnson
[12:37] <n3storm> ok
[12:37] <n3storm> is Rich in the channel now?
[12:38] <jenda> yes - nixternal
[12:38] <n3storm> hi nixternal
[12:38] <jenda> n3storm: I'm very busy now :(
[12:38] <n3storm> ok
[12:38] <n3storm> see you later
[12:38] <jenda> Do you think you could have a look at the mailing list at the post about SU?
[12:38] <n3storm> once I pop up in the mailing-list we will keep on working
[12:39] <n3storm> I am on it right now! :)
[12:40] <n3storm> nixternal: if you need any help in reestructuring the page tell me
[12:40] <n3storm> the magazine page
[12:41] <jenda> n3storm: you've got mail
[12:42] <jenda> MenZa: aloha
[12:43] <MenZa> Heya
[12:44] <jenda> I would like to know the price of printing 1000 stickers at your printer...
[12:44] <MenZa> jenda: I'll need your address btw, e-mail it?
[12:44] <jenda> OK
[12:44] <MenZa> menza@menza.or
[12:44] <MenZa> +g
[12:45] <MenZa> Yeah, my boss hasn't been around
[12:45] <jenda> gotcha
[12:45] <MenZa> 2x3cm right?
[12:45] <n3storm> haven't received the mail yet, jenda, waiting....
[12:45] <jenda> yes
[12:45] <MenZa> jenda: those are big, but what do I know :>
[12:45] <jenda> hehe
[12:46] <jenda> n3storm: I sent it.. strange.
[12:46] <jenda> I gotta run now, be back in a bit
[12:46] <n3storm> ok, see you
[01:00] <MenZa> jenda: cheers.
[01:00] <MenZa> I thought it was spam first, due to your pgp and that shit.
[01:00] <MenZa> :D
[01:19] <jenda> hehe :)
[01:20] <jenda> MenZa: you should use enigmail, you don't see the pgp blocks then, you only see 'good untrusted signature from Jenda Vanura <jenda@ubuntu.com>'
[01:22] <MenZa> <3 Windows Mail
[01:22] <MenZa> ;)
[01:29] <jenda> n3storm: got my email yet?
[01:30] <jenda> If not, there seems to be a mistake in your reciever... but I gotta go no, this time for real.
[01:30] <jenda> (as in, for longer than a few mins)
[02:41] <MenZa> jenda: ugh, lack of utf-8 support
[02:41] <MenZa> "Krkono?sk"
[02:42] <MenZa> what letter can I substitute that thing for?
[02:42] <MenZa> (e.g. I'm just gonna write 'Vancura')
[05:56] <n3storm> byes
[09:38] <jenda> MenZa: sorry, it's Krkonosska
[09:39] <MenZa> Right
[10:00] <jenda> hello shorty114
[10:01] <MenZa> db
[10:57] <jenda> Nighty night, Marketeers. I won't be around for three whole weeks.
[11:14] <adamant1988> hello all.
[11:24] <nixternal> no jenda for 3 weeks == PARTY TIME!!!
[11:36] <adamant1988> hey darkmatter_
[11:36] <darkmatter_> hey
[11:36] <darkmatter_> :)
[11:37] <adamant1988> how's life?
[11:37] <darkmatter_> heh... ok I guess.. I just woke up (3:37pm)
[11:37] <darkmatter_> :|
[11:38] <adamant1988> lol
[11:38] <adamant1988> I had to work at 7
[11:38] <adamant1988> I got off at about 3
[11:38] <darkmatter_> weekends+work= totally sucks
[11:39] <darkmatter_> I used to do that.. plus overtime (most nights) last time I had an actual job
[11:39] <darkmatter_> how are you doing today?
[11:40] <Bilange> working overnights on weekends sucks... cant party like the rest of the world :(
[11:40] <darkmatter_> aye
[11:41] <darkmatter_> but now I have the privilage of spending most of my time sitting in front of a 'puter...
[11:41] <darkmatter_> :D
[11:41] <adamant1988> I don't mind the lack of partying
[11:41] <adamant1988> my need for actual human contact is pretty much limited to my fiance...
[11:42] <adamant1988> but yeah
[11:42] <adamant1988> weekend working sucks