[12:01] <johnny_> fr500, when i try to connect to it from places > connect to server it gives here is no default action associated with this location.
[12:01] <maluk> hi im a noobie and im trying to get my conexant modem working in 64bit dapper. Can someone help me?
[12:01] <jjohn> hi all
[12:01] <nn> skavenge: I'd pop in my smart card and just type in my username i wanted and if it was the first time since i inserted the card, it'd ask my pin #, else it'd log me right in
[12:01] <Moocasso> micahcowan:  Okay, I think I lied, I can't get my MX1000 working at all now :P  I'll work on getting that working first I guess
[12:01] <micahcowan> phaedrus: afaict, what they actually want to be sure you can do is make connections on the internet. If you can make connections /to/ other machines from the one you're at, you should be golden.
[12:02] <fr500> johnny_: did you select ssh? remove the folder name it doesnt care
[12:02] <goatmale> how do i uninstall something in terminal?
[12:02] <stabby-> Hey someone running ubuntu could do me a favor and run:::: apt-cache show xorg-driver-fglrx      and after that tell me the version it displays
[12:02] <johnny_> yes fr500
[12:02] <skavenge> goatmale: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[12:02] <goatmale> thanks
[12:02] <shamrock_uk> @charlesjacobs - can you give us your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file please?
[12:02] <goatmale> apt get uninstall was my guess
[12:02] <goatmale> I was wrong..
[12:03] <charlesJacobs> shamrock_uk: yeah give me a second to upload it. is there a specific part you want to see?
[12:03] <johnny_> alright i got it fr500
[12:03] <fr500> johnny_: worked?
[12:03] <johnny_> yea
[12:03] <shamrock_uk> @charles - you can just paste it as a private message if its easier
[12:03] <fr500> johnny_: ok, magic words?
[12:03] <jjohn> I just installed vlc on my acer latop 64bit the dvd is nt reading properly it perceives the files as txt for some reason any body know what to do
[12:03] <johnny_> thank you so much for your help
[12:03] <fr500> lol
[12:03] <fr500> no prob
[12:04] <fr500> cya
[12:04] <johnny_> i'm in debt
[12:04] <johnny_> thanks
[12:04] <Bensr20> Could anyone help me with a RPM install? I am new to linux
[12:04] <CappO> can anyone please help me with ndiswrapper, i have installed it via synaptic, loaded the windows driver, but when i try to do modprobe ndiswrapper, i get operation not permitted, what must i do now ?
[12:04] <shamrock_uk> and yes, have a look under Section "Module" and see if 'glx' is commented out or not
[12:04] <fr500> CappO: run it with sudo
[12:04] <skavenge> CappO: try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:04] <Leonox> hi
[12:05] <skavenge> CappO: and enter your user password when it asks
[12:05] <shamrock_uk> @Bensr20:   sudo apt-get install alien       then do     sudo alien xxxxx.rpm   to install it automagically
[12:05] <CappO> tried that guys, working in a root terminal
[12:05] <Bensr20> thanks
[12:05] <Flannel> Bensr20: are you sure you can only find an rpm of the package?
[12:05] <fr500> Cappo no way
[12:05] <goatmale> can some one who uses wine PM me?
[12:05] <skavenge> you dont want to be installing rpm
[12:05] <shamrock_uk> @Ben - no worries, but be aware that it's not ideal, look for .debs if possible
[12:05] <charlesJacobs>     Identifier     "Default Layout"
[12:05] <charlesJacobs>     Screen         "Default Screen" 0 0
[12:05] <charlesJacobs>     InputDevice    "Generic Keyboard"
[12:05] <charlesJacobs>     InputDevice    "Configured Mouse"
[12:05] <fr500> CappO: try again
[12:05] <charlesJacobs>     InputDevice    "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
[12:05] <gnomefreak> Bensr20: what package is it?
[12:05] <charlesJacobs>     InputDevice    "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
[12:05] <charlesJacobs>     InputDevice    "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
[12:05] <gnomefreak> charlesJacobs: use pastebin
[12:05] <Bensr20> it is limewire
[12:05] <charlesJacobs> EndSection
[12:06] <slew> hi, how do i reconfigure the xserver?
[12:06] <charlesJacobs> Section "Files"
[12:06] <charlesJacobs> 	# path to defoma fonts
[12:06] <charlesJacobs>     FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
[12:06] <skavenge> CappO: your not in a root shell if its giving you permission denied
[12:06] <CappO> i'll close this terminal and retry
[12:06] <Mnabil> !xgl
[12:06] <Flannel> Bensr20: you don't need a rpm of limewire, it's in the repositories
[12:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:06] <stabby-> Hey someone running ubuntu could do me a favor and run:::: apt-cache show xorg-driver-fglrx      and after that tell me the version it displays
[12:06] <gatekeeper> jjohn: have you got libdvdread3 installed?
[12:06] <Flannel> !tel Bensr20 about limewire
[12:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about tel Bensr20 about limewire - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Flannel: no it isnt
[12:06] <shamrock_uk> charles, don't post here please :) either PM or use pastbin if that's ok
[12:06] <skavenge> Bensr20: you need a limewire .deb, which they have
[12:06] <goatmale> can some one who uses WINE private message me?
[12:06] <tuxtux> !fgl
[12:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about fgl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Flannel: its a shell script though
[12:06] <skavenge> Flannel: uh since when is it in the repos?
[12:06] <skavenge> !info limewire
[12:06] <tuxtux> !fglrx
[12:06] <ubotu> Package limewire does not exist in dapper
[12:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:06] <gnomefreak> !limewire
[12:06] <goatmale> use
[12:06] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[12:07] <Flannel> eh, sorry, been a long day.
[12:07] <shamrock_uk> @slew  Ctrl+Alt+F1    then log in.   then   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop    then  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:07] <goatmale>  Use  Frostwire
[12:07] <goatmale> its a lime wire clone
[12:07] <CappO> it says FATAL: error inserting ndiswrapper (path) operation not permitted
[12:07] <skavenge> Bensr20: frostwire is the same thing and free, and has an ubuntu .deb right on www.frostwire.org
[12:07] <stabby-> Hey someone running ubuntu could do me a favor and run:::: apt-cache show xorg-driver-fglrx      and after that tell me the version it displays
[12:07] <goatmale> and it installs nicely with automatix
[12:07] <micahcowan> phaedrus44, did you see my answer?
[12:07] <Bensr20> ok thanks everyone I will try frostwire
[12:07] <gnomefreak> skavenge: only problem with that is its build for dos lol
[12:07] <Mnabil> !java
[12:07] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:07] <Leonox> I need some help with xmodmap, I have a laptop with us keyboard, but I speak spanish so I need the dead_diaeresis, I'm trying something like this xmodmap -e 'keysym u = u U dead_diaeresis' and I have the windows key and the Alt_L like AltGr, but it doesn't work :(
[12:08] <skavenge> gnomefreak: hah is it? i had no idea .. thats java for you
[12:08] <CappO> fr500, what am i doing wrong ?
[12:08] <slew> shamrock_uk: thanks
[12:08] <pygi> lilo: poke?
[12:08] <shamrock_uk> @stabby:   Filename: pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/xorg-driver-fglrx_7.0.0-8.25.18+2.6.15.11-1_i386.deb
[12:08] <fr500> CappO: not sure, it has to work that way
[12:08] <maluk> hi im a noobie and im trying to get my conexant modem working in 64bit dapper. Can someone help me?
[12:08] <cedric_> someone have an asus a6t  laptop ?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> skavenge: the page tells you if you get this error " bleh" use dos2nix or whatever that tool os called
[12:08] <Moocasso> Okay, very quick question.  Is there something in Linux similar to autoexec.bat in Windows?
[12:09] <skavenge> gnomefreak: wierd, never had an issue with it personally
[12:09] <cedric_> what is autoexec.bat ?
[12:09] <goatmale> Can anyone who uses wine message
[12:09] <Mnabil> !FrostWire
[12:09] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:09] <goatmale> me
[12:09] <Enverex> Are there any massive changes from Dapper to Edgy?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> cedric_: a windows file
[12:09] <Moocasso> automatically runs commands when you start the computer
[12:09] <shamrock_uk> it's a batch file that used to run dos commands back in the old days on startup
[12:09] <cedric_> what does it do ?
[12:09] <skavenge> Enverex: we'll know when edgy comes out
[12:09] <Enverex> goatmale, What do you need?
[12:09] <jjohn> gatekeeper did you get my reply
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Enverex: other than things breaking no
[12:09] <Leonox> xmodmap help...
[12:09] <Moocasso> I found a command that lets my mouse work fine, I want it to run every time I start the computer 'cause I"m lazy :P
[12:09] <micahcowan> Moocasso: something that automatically runs? sure. There is a system of what are known as "rc-scripts" (rc=runcommand).
[12:10] <gatekeeper> jjohn: no what was it?
[12:10] <cedric_> you can use rc files
[12:10] <micahcowan> Moocasso: but if it's related to your mouse, you probably actually want to put it in a script that automatically starts when X does.
[12:10] <micahcowan> !x
[12:10] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:10] <wildman> hello
[12:10] <Leonox> help with xmodmap
[12:10] <cedric_> Moocasso : use rc file or your specific austart file (kde/go=nome)
[12:10] <jackson> I just updated me nvidia-glx drivers and now my glx is broken! glxinfo returns "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." on a few lines. /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/754398 /etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/754426
[12:10] <micahcowan> Moocasso: what's the command.
[12:10] <wildman> where can I change the icon for a given MIME type?
[12:10] <Moocasso> xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 10 11 6 7"
[12:11] <tritium> jackson: a few others have been reporting that
[12:11] <goatmale> can anyone who uses WINE mind helping me with something simple?
[12:11] <cedric_> so I have acpi issues on a asus A6T laptop (amd64) ... someone know good link ?
[12:11] <jjohn> Gatekeeper I not sure about the file you named I did a gui install then aded the updates after the dvd would not play but still no go
[12:11] <Enverex> goatmale, What do you need?
[12:11] <micahcowan> You want that in your x file, definitely. It wouldn't work in an init-rc file: it has to run in an X session.
[12:11] <fr500> goatmale: ask and hope
[12:11] <goatmale> I messed up my cfg
[12:11] <johnny_> fr500, one last question
[12:11] <goatmale> and I need to copy someoes
[12:11] <fr500> johnny_: just ask
[12:11] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here that uses Akamaru?  I got it work just have a few config questions...
[12:12] <johnny_> where does the shared folder get saved?
[12:12] <johnny_> is it in mnt/?
[12:12] <fr500> goatmale: isn it easier to restore to default
[12:12] <Moocasso> Okay...any advice for how I go about putting it in my x file?  :)  Just open X in a text editor or something?
[12:12] <Enverex> goatmale, The new versions of WINE don't use config files, so you need to update anyway
[12:12] <johnny_> or where?
[12:12] <fr500> johnny_: no, where you paste it
[12:12] <goatmale> I messed it up
[12:12] <cedric_> FunnyLookinHat : i use it
[12:12] <jackson> tritium: do you know how to fix it?
[12:12] <goatmale> and I reinstalled it
[12:12] <johnny_> well its on my desktop
[12:12] <cedric_> but go to #amarok
[12:12] <tritium> jackson: not yet.
[12:12] <micahcowan> Moocasso: Easiest way, is probably to add it to a new file in your home directory, name it .xsession
[12:12] <johnny_> but when i cd to Desktop i dont see it on the command line
[12:12] <Moocasso> Okay, perfect :)
[12:12] <micahcowan> Then restart your X server (or start it up, if you're doing it with startx).
[12:12] <FunnyLookinHat> cedric_, How do I add/remove icons to my launch bar?  And how can I set it to start when I load up X automatically?  (Adding it to .Xsession froze X)
[12:13] <MehAdult> How do I set up NTP?
[12:13] <johnny_> oh i'm dumb
[12:13] <cedric_> are you udsing gnome or kde ?
[12:13] <johnny_> i'm ssh'd
[12:13] <MehAdult> !ntp
[12:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about ntp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:13] <johnny_> lol
[12:13] <skavenge> what is amakaru anyway?
[12:13] <MehAdult> :|
[12:13] <micahcowan> FunnyLookinHat: add a & after the command?
[12:13] <johnny_> thanks for your help again fr500
[12:13] <johnny_> i could kiss you
[12:13] <micahcowan> in your .Xsession
[12:13] <johnny_> later
[12:13] <FunnyLookinHat> skarface, OS X launcher bar for AIGLX/XGL
[12:13] <skavenge> ah okay
[12:13] <goatmale> Enverex can you check your pms?
[12:14] <FunnyLookinHat> micahcowan, ooh yea forgot about &.  but still lost about how to add/remove icons...  : (
[12:14] <wildman> MehAdult, right click on the clock applet
[12:14] <wildman> MehAdult, Set time&date (enter password)
[12:14] <Enverex> goatmale, You're not registered so you're not really sending any
[12:14] <goatmale> meh.
[12:14] <indigoblu> has anybody used gnome-vfs (mounting remote SSH) with Rythmbox on Dapper... ???
[12:14] <goatmale> how do I update WINE?
[12:14] <wildman> MehAdult, check the 'sync time with Internet servers', select server, accept, dun
[12:14] <Enverex> goatmale, Follow the instructions on this page to get the latest version - http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[12:14] <goatmale> I did apt get
[12:14] <Enverex> You have to add a custom repo
[12:14] <micahcowan> FunnyLookinHat: usually you can right-click 'em... you're talking about the gnome-panel?
[12:14] <tsume> non-registered pm's > /dev/null
[12:14] <wildman> MehAdult, if NTP is not installed, you'll be asked to install it
[12:14] <TheUni> i installed ubuntu then windows (backwards.. i know). If i reinstall GRUB from the ubuntu boot cd, will it detect my windows partition and allow me to boot to it?
[12:14] <goatmale> repo?
[12:14] <fr500> goatmale apt-get remove --purge wine
[12:15] <jjohn> msg/ gatekeeper   hello
[12:15] <FunnyLookinHat> micahcowan, no, talking about akamaru panel.  right clicking apparently launches as well   :-/
[12:15] <Leonox> xmodmap help
[12:15] <Enverex> goatmale, Just do what that page says
[12:15] <fr500> indigoblu: it should work just fine
[12:15] <profoX`> TheUni: normally it will, and if it doesn't, you can add the necessary information yourself to menu.lst
[12:15] <wildman> TheUni, maybe not, but fixing Grub to boot Windows shouldn't be hard...
[12:15] <shamrock_uk> @TheUni - yes, if you alter the contents of /boot/grub/menu.1st to include your WinXP install
[12:15] <MehAdult> wildman: I don't have a clock applet
[12:15] <Leonox> I need some help with xmodmap, I have a laptop with us keyboard, but I speak spanish so I need the dead_diaeresis, I'm trying something like this xmodmap -e 'keysym u = u U dead_diaeresis' and I have the windows key and the Alt_L like AltGr, but it doesn't work
[12:15] <MehAdult> wildman: I'm in E17 not Gnome or KDE
[12:15] <wildman> MehAdult, oh
[12:15] <wildman> dunno then :)
[12:15] <goatmale> i unistalled it fr500
[12:15] <wildman> sorry MehAdult
[12:15] <goatmale> now what?
[12:16] <fr500> goatmale:  with purge?
[12:16] <TheUni> shamrock_uk: it's Vista :\ From what i understand the booting is different. think it will still pick it up?
[12:16] <goatmale> yes
[12:16] <Leonox> :(
[12:16] <shamrock_uk> Ah, haven't a clue. But good luck ;)
[12:16] <profoX`> TheUni: I think normally it will find windows automatically, if it doesn't, please let me know ;) it's not hard to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst anyway, I can help you with that if you give me the contents of "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:16] <imme> anyone here who know about xmodmap command, what it does?
[12:16] <goatmale> no sudo apt-get install wine?
[12:16] <imme> And/OR about the Shft+backspace bug?
[12:16] <Enverex> goatmale, If you're talking to me, put my name before what you say
[12:16] <fr500> indigoblu: works fine
[12:16] <goatmale> fr500: now sudo apt-get install wine?
[12:16] <indigoblu> fr500, well I have gstreamer plugins and Mp3 works fine, but playback works in Totem and not Rythmbox
[12:16] <fr500> here
[12:16] <profoX`> TheUni: yes i think it doesnt matter, because you generally use chainloader +1
[12:16] <wildman> where can I change the icon for a given MIME type?
[12:17] <Enverex> The version of WINE in Synaptic/Apt-Get is OLD, DO NOT USE IT
[12:17] <Leonox> wel xmodmap modifies the keyboard mapping
[12:17] <Enverex> It's like half a year old
[12:17] <imme> Leonox: okay.
[12:17] <profoX`> TheUni: but i have no experience with vista.. (because vista sucks and it messed up my test pc :))
[12:17] <indigoblu> fr500, do I need any additional gnomevfs or gstreamer packages?
[12:17] <micahcowan> FunnyLookinHat: meant to look like OSX, I guess?
[12:17] <TheUni> k, reinsstalling grub i guess
[12:17] <TheUni> profoX`: heh.. i'm a repair tech. Just running vista to test it so i can fix it when i start to get calls  :)
[12:18] <Leonox> I allredy have a problem with xmodmap
[12:18] <TheUni> not 1 crash in 2 weeks though, btw
[12:18] <indigoblu> fr500, restarted and it works great... :-D
[12:18] <FunnyLookinHat> micahcowan, exactly, and it works great. just cna't configure it
[12:18] <profoX`> TheUni: anyone who is stupid enough to run the beta version of vista doesn't deserve to get help ;)
[12:18] <indigoblu> fr500,  guess it need to see the new gstreamer plugins!
[12:18] <TheUni> haha
[12:18] <micahcowan> FunnyLookinHat: according to web site, the only way to remove 'em is to use gconftool-2(!)
[12:18] <TheUni> profoX`: i told you why i'm running it. It's not by choice
[12:18] <micahcowan> http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/akamaru.git/
[12:18] <Leonox> I need some help with xmodmap, I have a laptop with us keyboard, but I speak spanish so I need the dead_diaeresis, I'm trying something like this xmodmap -e 'keysym u = u U dead_diaeresis' and I have the windows key and the Alt_L like AltGr, but it doesn't work
[12:18] <TheUni> i've beta tested the last 3 or 4 windows OS's, just to get a feel for them before they come out so i can fix em
[12:18] <Enverex> Weird, why doesn't Mplayer have an icon or a theme in Ubuntu...
[12:19] <goatmale> still didnt work :(
[12:19] <FunnyLookinHat> micahcowan, i see that, can't see how to add tho
[12:19] <Moocasso> Okay, so I tried putting "xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 10 11 6 7"" in a .xsession file, and x wouldn't open up anymore
[12:19] <Enverex> goatmale, How did it "not work"? What "didn't work"?
[12:19] <profoX`> TheUni: no crash in 2 weeks? sounds like it's getting better.. beta 2 ?
[12:19] <goatmale> i am still getting errors with wine
[12:19] <shamrock_uk> @Enverex, have you install gmplayer? mplayer on its own isn't integrated with gnome
[12:19] <TheUni> profoX`: yup. And Office 2007 B2. Connecting to an exchange server and syncing my smartphone
[12:19] <profoX`> TheUni: do you have to solve linux problems sometimes ? lol
[12:19] <Enverex> shamrock_uk, I have the basic GUI, I'll check
[12:20] <TheUni> profoX`: not once. lol
[12:20] <profoX`> TheUni: :'(
[12:20] <goatmale> how do I register my nick>
[12:20] <micahcowan> FunnyLookinHat: probably gconftool-2, also? Might look at the other values in existence to see what they should look like...
[12:20] <shamrock_uk> if its a gui, it's not just mplayer :)
[12:20] <profoX`> TheUni: you like windows vista ?
[12:20] <Enverex> goatmale, Type "wine --version" in the console please and  paste the output here
[12:20] <TheUni> profoX`: but i'm running it for the same reason. Want to know as many os's as possible
[12:20] <profoX`> goatmale: /msg nickserv register password
[12:20] <goatmale> Wine 0.9.17
[12:20] <shamrock_uk> can you just add it with the menu editor?
[12:20] <FunnyLookinHat> micahcowan, ahh, i figured out how to add... but the remove doens't seem to work, haha. oh well I'll keep messing with it
[12:20] <Leonox> I need some help with xmodmap, I have a laptop with us keyboard, but I speak spanish so I need the dead_diaeresis, I'm trying something like this xmodmap -e 'keysym u = u U dead_diaeresis' and I have the windows key and the Alt_L like AltGr, but it doesn't work
[12:20] <fivre> if I kill apt-get via ctrl+z, how can I unlock /var/lib/dpkg/ ?
[12:21] <micahcowan> Moocasso: What does .xsession-errors say in it?
[12:21] <imme> fivre: you don't kill with Ctrl+z
[12:21] <Enverex> goatmale, If you don't have anything important installed in Wine, run this - "rm -r ~/.wine && wineprefixcreate"
[12:21] <fivre> so I see
[12:21] <shamrock_uk> @fivre - you haven't killed it, simply stopped it and sent it to the background.  issue   fg 1 to get it back
[12:21] <Leonox> :(
[12:21] <skavenge> fivre: ctrl+z is suspend
[12:21] <TheUni> profoX`: it's nothing to write home about. no major changes i can see. IE7 is decent, but still IE. i've ended up using firefox as default again. Only major change is the security system. It has a screen kinda like ubuntu every time you need to do something root-like. A nice change, but will be confusing for home users
[12:21] <profoX`> TheUni: just out of interest, because i haven't run windows in a while.. do you think vista is better than let's say, ubuntu ? and if yes, in what ways?
[12:21] <fivre> ah
[12:21] <fivre> ok
[12:21] <skavenge> !offtopic
[12:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:22] <Moocasso> er...is it too late for me to check that or is there a file somewhere for that?
[12:22] <goatmale> enverex can you see my PMs?
[12:22] <Enverex> goatmale, Yeah, sorry
[12:22] <Enverex> goatmale, If you don't have anything important installed in Wine, run this - "rm -r ~/.wine && wineprefixcreate" <
[12:22] <Leonox> I need some help with xmodmap, I have a laptop with us keyboard, but I speak spanish so I need the dead_diaeresis, I'm trying something like this xmodmap -e 'keysym u = u U dead_diaeresis' and I have the windows key and the Alt_L like AltGr, but it doesn't work
[12:22] <Moocasso> oh, found it
[12:22] <profoX`> TheUni: i know for a fact that everything new in vista is just ripped from os x, linux and even *bsd :) but i don't care, if they can make it work good..
[12:23] <TheUni> profoX`: that's not fair. Apples to Oranges. and you'd have to give me context. For me, connecting to an exchange server and syncing a smartphone are so complicated in ubuntu that they're not worth doing
[12:23] <david__> im trying to help my wife with creating a resume, does anyone know where i can download a template for openoffice?
[12:23] <Leonox> :( i'm getting mad...
[12:23] <TheUni> but for everyday use, i prefer linux.
[12:23] <Moocasso> just copy and paste micahcowan?
[12:23] <haary> I just read USN-308-1 (shadow vulnerability). Is debian also affected?
[12:23] <micahcowan> Moocasso: oh, but if you're running X now, it might not be for that session anymore.
[12:23] <Moocasso> oh, k
[12:23] <ringard> repost from last night... i'm having the same problems as detailed here (but on 6.06 SERVER edition): http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4031.html <----- 2nd post: It has sat there for over an hour with the blue screen, a gray bar at the bottom, and one black rectangle in the far low left corner.
[12:23] <micahcowan> When it stopped working, did you remove that line and come back in?
[12:23] <Moocasso> yeah, I deleted the .xsession file and restarted
[12:23] <profoX`> TheUni: thats why i said, in what ways.. windows can be better for certain things, ubuntu for other things
[12:23] <david__> Ive loooked and all i find is links to other thinbgs
[12:23] <Zaff> Does anyone know of a wireless pci card that works well in 6.06 and is easy to set up?
[12:24] <lophyte> Zaff: I have a Ralink-based card that works excellently
[12:24] <goatmale> enverex?
[12:24] <shamrock_uk> @Zaff - anything with an atheros chipset works good
[12:24] <gizmo_the_great1> all of a sudden when I run glxgears it causes gnome to log me out. Any ideas?
[12:24] <Moocasso> I found a site that suggested a .bashrc would be useful in situations sorta similar to this, is there a reason that wouldn't work?
[12:25] <Enverex> goatmale, 1 sec
[12:25] <TheUni> profoX`: in general, it's more decent than i thought it would be. seems like the final version may actually be ok, even if it's not much different than xp. any particular question?
[12:25] <micahcowan> Moocasso: okay... I'm very surprised that it didn't work in the .xsession file. Try two things: change "xmodmap" in your .xsession command to "/usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap", and if it fails again, make a copy of the .xsession-errors file before you come back up.
[12:25] <marcelino> where is the best place to store a shell script you have written to automate a task--in your home directory or under bin?
[12:25] <Moocasso> Okay, back in a few :)
[12:25] <micahcowan> Moocasso: .bashrc shouldn't be what you want: it runs whenever a shell does. Not all shells run in X, and X programs themselves don't run in shells (typically).
[12:26] <profoX`> TheUni: no, i tried to install it on a test pc, but it messed up my partitions without even starting the installation.. that was beta 2
[12:26] <shamrock_uk> I'd say your home directory, greater chance of you not deleting it between reinstalls
[12:26] <TheUni> hah.. yikes
[12:26] <profoX`> TheUni: guess i'll try it on another pc sometime
[12:26] <marcelino> thx
[12:26] <TheUni> home my other partition is still ok
[12:26] <TheUni> haven't tried to boot back to linux
[12:26] <TheUni> *hope
[12:26] <Leonox> micahcowan: could you help me with a problem that i have with xmodmap?
[12:26] <VR_> i just installed "console-terminus" and "xfonts-terminus" - i wanna use terminus in .Xdefaults for rxvt, but it isn't working. do i need to rebuild the font cache or something?
[12:27] <Rondom> marcelino: I put it in /usr/local/bin if I want it to be in the path and the scrpt can be used at any location. if it only converts the image in the a specific directory i put it in the dir somwhere in home
[12:27] <TheUni> profoX`: you be here for a minute? i'm gonna reinstall grub and come back here in ubuntu, might need help getting back to windows
[12:27] <Rondom> marcelino: this doens't answer your question, it's just the way I do it
[12:27] <marcelino> rondom thanks for the info
[12:27] <skavenge> VR_: you running kde, gnome?
[12:27] <micahcowan> Leonox: I'll be happy to try. :)
[12:28] <ubuntu_> Hi everybody, I have a probleml
[12:28] <profoX`> TheUni: yes i'll be here, you can also pm me if i don't respond, or just call my name
[12:28] <VR_> skavenge: gnome
[12:28] <TheUni> k
[12:28] <marcelino> rondom usr/local/bin sounds like a good idea because i don't like the idea of cluttering up my home directory
[12:28] <TheUni> bbiam
[12:28] <Zaff> k, after all of the searching i've done at this (i've been looking for about a week now), i know that the ralink and atheros chipsets are good
[12:28] <skavenge> VR_: why not just change it in 'system', 'preferred applications' then?
[12:28] <Zaff> but i cant tell which card will work the best
[12:28] <derekS> my courier-imap installation isn't working!
[12:28] <derekS> heh
[12:29] <ubuntu_> I installed windows after Ubuntu, then had to install grub
[12:29] <imme> micahcowan: I think Leonox fell asleep... :S :D
[12:29] <Rondom> marcelino: not you home-dir
[12:29] <VR_> skavenge: i'm trying to change the font for rxvt-unicode. i need to edit the .Xdefaults file to do that. i installed those two packages to get the terminus font, but it's not showing up in xfontsel
[12:29] <micahcowan> :)
[12:29] <goatmale> enverex
[12:29] <Leonox> micahcowan: well, I have a laptop with us keyboard...
[12:30] <goatmale> what do I do now?
[12:30] <Enverex> goatmale, well Wine should work now
[12:30] <goatmale> I think
[12:30] <goatmale> XD thanks
[12:30] <Rondom> marcelino: if I have a script that only works for a specific directory (usually a sub-direcotry in home) I put it in there, but not in ~/
[12:30] <skavenge> VR_: ah sorry, from the first question it sounded as if you were trying to replace rxvt with another terminal, my fault
[12:30] <ubuntu_> grub seems installed, however when I select the kernel to start, it gaves an error
[12:31] <Leonox> micahcowan: but I speak spanish, so I need characters like dead_tilde and dead_diaeresis
[12:31] <Enverex> goatmale, configuration is done with winecfg now
[12:31] <Zaff> theres no garentee that if a card works in breezy that it will work in dapper, right?
[12:31] <Corporal_Dirge> What does it mean when /media/ shows this:
[12:31] <Corporal_Dirge> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  567416697 2008-10-06 02:54 ,t??r???.?j@
[12:31] <Corporal_Dirge> ?--------- ? ?    ?             ?                ? ???t?x] ?.??=
[12:31] <Corporal_Dirge> ?--------- ? ?    ?             ?                ? t?*y?c8?.???
[12:31] <Corporal_Dirge> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 3555232224 1949-07-30 20:00 ?u??????.??"
[12:31] <imme> is hardwar-issues off-topic as well ?
[12:31] <gizmo_the_great1> all of a sudden when I run glxgears it causes gnome to log me out. Any ideas?
[12:31] <marcelino> how does mepis compare to ubuntu..
[12:31] <Enverex> Corporal_Dirge, That you borked it, heh
[12:31] <Corporal_Dirge> Plus a lot more
[12:32] <skavenge> VR_: fyi its alot easier to change the font in gnome-terminal, and it has most the capabilities as rxvt .. (backgrounds, transparency, etc)
[12:32] <Leonox> micahcowan: I was trying to do sometihnig like xmodmap -e 'keysym u = u U dead_diaeresis'
[12:32] <VR_> skavenge: i don't like gnome-terminal
[12:32] <VR_> :)
[12:33] <Leonox> micahcowan: and then I wanted to use the windows key like AltGr but it doesn't work :(
[12:33] <imme> How do I get to tty1, 2, 3 , 4 ,5 or 6? From gnome?
[12:33] <skavenge> imme: ctrl + alt + f1, f2 ,f3 whatever
[12:33] <skavenge> alt + ctrl + f7 to get back
[12:33] <imme> skavenge: Besides those, 'cause those won't work... :(
[12:34] <skavenge> i dont think you do then
[12:34] <imme> Hmmm that's a pain up the watch-my-language.
[12:34] <sto_> How can I save a .txt file in a terminator?
[12:35] <Rondom> sto_: nano if you want a gui
[12:35] <Bergcube> My WLAN card supports the 802.11a/b/g standards and speeds.  So does my access point.  How / where can I check the connection speed?
[12:35] <Rondom> sto_: echo 'bla' >> textfile and cat textfile if you want to do it without a gui
[12:36] <Rondom> Bergcube: type iwconfig
[12:36] <zukalk> does anyone know how to give the mic input a REAL boost? that damn Mic Boost (+20dB) won't help, or barely will
[12:36] <Rondom> Bergcube: in a terminal. are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[12:36] <Bergcube> Rondom~  Ah, perfect.  That it the nail straight on the head.
[12:36] <ProN00b> recently i am having problems with sound
[12:37] <micahcowan> Leonox: I'm not completely sure that's what you want. I'm no expert with xmodmap, but doesn't that remap the "u" key to add a diareses to it?
[12:37] <Bergcube> Rondom~  Ubuntu.  Tried Kubuntu earlier but ended up with gnome in the end.
[12:37] <ProN00b> when it plays in one program and i start playing from another program the other program is really quiet
[12:37] <imme> zukalk: clean your mic a bit... :P
[12:37] <Leonox> micahcowan:?
[12:37] <zukalk> imme: it's brand new!
[12:37] <zukalk> imme: bought it today
[12:37] <Rondom> Bergcube: don't know a gui-tool for gnome, maybe with edgy.....
[12:37] <imme> zukalk: ah okay... Then you don't...
[12:38] <Rondom> Bergcube: there is one for kde, but I doubt anyone wants to install all those libs, because of the fact that he wants to see his connection speed
[12:38] <Bergcube> Rondom~  Don't need a GUI tool.  Not going to look at it that often.
[12:38] <Moocasso> Okay micahcowan, after much stupidity on my own part, I finally managed to copy the .xsession-errors file, and the last line of it says "/home/fnar/.xsession: line 1: /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap: No such file or directory"
[12:38] <Rondom> Bergcube: same for me
[12:39] <micahcowan> Moocasso: type "which xmodmap" into a terminal and tell me what it says.
[12:39] <Moocasso>  /usr/bin/xmodmap
[12:39] <Moocasso> try that instead?
[12:39] <micahcowan> Doh! I actually broke it more.
[12:40] <Moocasso> LOL
[12:40] <micahcowan> Yeah.
[12:40] <Moocasso> Thanks for trying, back in a few :)
[12:40] <Bergcube> Rondom~  In the terminal / GUI "war" my view is to use the GUI where that is fastest or easiest, use the terminal where that is...
[12:41] <Rondom> Bergcube: same for me. if you know how to use the terminal you can work more efficiently. sme goes for the gui, of course :roll:
[12:42] <karl> anyone have an idea why apps might not be using my .asoundrc file when i open them?
[12:42] <Bergcube> :-)
[12:42] <valehru> Anyone know of a reason why my keyboard will only allow lowercase 'q' to appear when I have CAPS on and press Shift + 'Q'.  Its the same problem with 2 keyboards....??
[12:42] <corran> any thoughts on how to fix manpages that have a number of bad characters?
[12:42] <valehru> Its a DELL USB Multimedia keyboard im using
[12:43] <Kyral> corran: file a bug :P
[12:43] <Zaff> have you tried it with a ps/2 keyboard?
[12:43] <corran> Kyral: ok then...
[12:43] <Moocasso> Okay micahcowan, NO errors I can see in the file now...
[12:43] <Xenguy> corran: that is most likely a terminal problem/issue
[12:43] <ProN00b> i am having problems with my sound, it seems that only one app can have sound concurrently
[12:43] <valehru> Yes...one was a PS2 and the other was USB....The exact same problem
[12:44] <valehru> Both keyboards work on a windows machine
[12:44] <micahcowan> Does X start up?
[12:44] <karl> anyone have an idea why apps might not be using my .asoundrc file when i open them?
[12:44] <valehru> yes
[12:44] <Moocasso> no
[12:44] <Moocasso> :P
[12:44] <corran> Xenguy: yeah, but why ($TERM = xterm)
[12:44] <Moocasso> if you meant me...
[12:44] <micahcowan> But that command works in a terminal?
[12:44] <Moocasso> yep
[12:44] <fiznut> whoa, gaim is weird for IRC
[12:44] <fiznut> used to mIRC
[12:44] <corran> Xenguy: and it happens on terms from the console to xterm, rxvt, Eterm...
[12:45] <Xenguy> corran: I have no idea - I get that sometimes myself, e.g. with aterm or rxvt, so I just use gnome-terminal instead ;-)
[12:45] <imme> What's the difference between xterm and gnome-terminal?
[12:45] <Master_Kale> I have a question regarding Automatix; any takers?
[12:45] <corran> Xenguy: IIRC, it happened there too.
[12:45] <Zaff> anyone want to recommend a specific 802.11g wireless pci card?  all of this hunting around for one on the net is getting old
[12:45] <Xenguy> corran: oh, I wouldn't have expected it on a virtual console
[12:45] <corran> Xenguy: can you check your ssh_config manpage
[12:45] <Xenguy> corran: for what?
[12:45] <marcelino> any benefits of Mepis over Ubuntu?
[12:45] <corran> for bogus characters
[12:46] <Moocasso> any more ideas?  Lol
[12:46] <skavenge> marcelino: ask in #mepis
[12:46] <gizmo_the_great1> why is automatix not being developed for Dapper?
[12:46] <corran> Xenguy: that is one of the ones I am haveing problems with, so I would love to know that this is (or is not) specific to me.
[12:46] <goatmale> eneverex
[12:46] <marcelino> thanks skavenge
[12:46] <goatmale> HALP PLX
[12:46] <skavenge> gizmo_the_great1: because it does as much harm as good? works flawlessy on some systems and completely destroys others
[12:47] <Xenguy> corran: gnome-terminal displays it fine (my $TERM is 'xterm' also)
[12:47] <micahcowan> Moocasso: what is the command again, and how are you testing starting X?
[12:47] <gizmo_the_great1> skavenge, i did not realise that. it worked quite well the bits I used it for in Breezy.
[12:47] <Enverex> goatmale, sorry, forgot to rereg
[12:47] <gizmo_the_great1> all of a sudden when I run glxgears it causes gnome to log me out. Any ideas?
[12:47] <skavenge> gizmo_the_great1: ppl are using it in dapper as well anyway
[12:48] <Moocasso>  /usr/bin/xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 10 11 6 7" and I"m using ctrl+alt+backspace to restart
[12:48] <maluk> i need help getting my modem to work in 64bit dapper. Can someone help me?
[12:48] <micahcowan> Moocasso: how are you examining .xsession-errors after a failed start?
[12:48] <Moocasso> using gedit
[12:49] <Moocasso> it fails to start so I go into the failsafe, do cp .xsession-errors x.errors, and I open it up with gedit afterwards
[12:49] <TobyK> I have a desktop computer that used to run Ubuntu exclusively. I've added a Serial ATA drive with windows already installed on it. It boots when the windows disk is the only one connected, but throws me a generic "disk error" when I try to boot through GRUB with the entry I added for it. Any ideas?
[12:49] <micahcowan> In another X session? At that point, you'll probably be looking at the wrong .xsession-errors. :-(
[12:50] <Moocasso> even if I go into the failsafe terminal and copy the file?
[12:50] <micahcowan> Moocasso: iirc, failsafe is still an X session, isn't it? You get a window with an X session?
[12:51] <Moocasso> well, it gives me the usual Ubuntu background with a terminal in the bottom right corner of the screen
[12:51] <gean> does any1 know, where the list of all installed packages is stored ?!
[12:52] <gean> [i need to REMOVE the old breezy and reinstall in Dapper, but will loose the list of ``needed'' pack's] 
[12:52] <sorush20> !rpm2cpio
[12:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about rpm2cpio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:53] <micahcowan> Moocasso: okay. Hm.... try it again (with the command in .xsession), but this time, don't log in on the graphical screen after it fails.
[12:53] <Moocasso> how do I get to a terminal then?
[12:54] <micahcowan> Moocasso: instead, hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 to go log into a real terminal, and copy your .xsession-errors file. hit Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to the graphical login (you should write that one down).
[12:54] <corran> gean: dpkg --get-selections
[12:54] <Moocasso> k
[12:54] <tuxtux> reboot
[12:54] <Moocasso> back in a few :)
[12:54] <redblades> Wow. I installed Xmms-alarm lastnight and it was so cool.
[12:54] <redblades> I got to wake up to my favourite song.
[12:55] <jonass> when booting kernel 2.6.15-26 (updated with autoupdate) my xgz/ compiz desktop is not working. but booting -23 it is
[12:55] <corran> gean: and /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates
[12:55] <corran> gean: did you catch that?
[12:56] <corran> gean: you can restore it with dpkg --set-selections
[12:56] <jonass> when booting kernel 2.6.15-26 (updated with autoupdate) my xgz/ compiz desktop is not working. but booting -23 it is
[12:58] <Moocasso> still no errors in .xsession-errors, the file still seems to have no error message, says "/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "fnar" /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup..."
[12:59] <CappO> how can i upgrade from hoary to dapper , do i have to do a clean install or. ?
[01:00] <khoda> first time linux user here, have some problems installing - can someone help?
[01:00] <Moocasso> any ideas micahcowan?  :)
[01:00] <holycow> khoda, just ask
[01:00] <sloucher> what happened khoda? ask away
[01:01] <fiznut> I have an NTFS storage slave drive I want to access, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to want to read it. Anything I can do?
[01:01] <jareth_> CappO first update to breezy
[01:02] <khoda> installed it from server cd i burned. did "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" it went through and downloaded to 100%, then unpacked for awhile then the screen went black. I rebooted and it takes me to an ubuntu login screen. i login then it takes me to a splash logo for ubuntu and hangs there. the logo also looks messed up(like it doesnt have my gfx driver)
[01:02] <dj_baggio> fiznut: install ntfsprogs
[01:02] <micahcowan> Moocasso: okay, with the command in your .xsession file, run startx -- :1 from a terminal.
[01:02] <fiznut> dj_baggio: Ah! simple :) Thanks bro
[01:02] <CappO> jareth_, can i do this via internet or do i have to download the iso and then do the fresh install ?
[01:03] <jareth_> CappO via internet will be fine
[01:03] <jareth_> CappO 1st change all "hoary" in /etc/apt/sources.list to "breezy"
[01:04] <jareth_> CappO then run sudo apt-get update
[01:04] <CappO> ok, do you know if wireless is better supported in that version ?
[01:04] <jareth_> CappO then run sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:04] <micahcowan> Moocasso: make sure and flag my name at the start of your response, so I see it if I'm in a different channel.
[01:04] <khoda> someone told me to run this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   - what does that do?
[01:04] <jareth_> CappO from breezy you can update to happer
[01:04] <jareth_> CappO dunno, have no wifi myself
[01:05] <CappO> ok gonna update then, be back later, thanx
[01:05] <jareth_> CappO take care!
[01:05] <sloucher> khoda: it reconfigures the xserver - sounds like a good idea
[01:05] <khoda> what does that mean? (just trying to learn as i do this)
[01:05] <Moocasso> micahcowan:  Okay, I tried that, starts up a new x session, no errors as far as I can tell
[01:06] <sloucher> khoda - it sets up the gui interface
[01:06] <khoda> sloucher - so i have to run that eveyr time i do something like apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:06] <redblades> No
[01:07] <sloucher> khoda: no - only when it's not working which should be never once it's set up
[01:07] <khoda> its asking for
[01:07] <khoda> "PLease enter the video card's bus identifier"
[01:07] <micahcowan> Moocasso: ??? and that's with the command in .xsession?
[01:07] <khoda> what's that?
[01:07] <redblades> khoda, you install xorg once, and then it works from then on, except if you try to install 3rd party binary drivers
[01:07] <gean> HELP PLEASE: i finally have the ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386 (burned from iso). How can i upgrade from breezy (5.10) after UPGRADE CRASH (no x, no internet recognition) ?!
[01:07] <Moocasso> micahcowan: was it supposed to open a new x session?
[01:07] <micahcowan> Moocasso: yes, if it works. I was expecting it to fail.
[01:08] <sloucher> khoda: most of the time accept the default and just hit return
[01:08] <Moocasso> Lol
[01:08] <Moocasso> Sorry to disappoint :P
[01:08] <redblades> In which case, it gets messy sometimes, and you just tpye "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:08] <holycow> gean, easiest thing to do is to save your files from /home and just reinstall.
[01:08] <micahcowan> Moocasso: it had the command in the .xsession file?
[01:09] <Moocasso> yep
[01:09] <khoda> now it asks for how much memory (in kB to be used by vid card
[01:09] <Moocasso> wait...it's gone now...
[01:09] <Moocasso> let me try it again O.o
[01:09] <khoda> leave it blank?
[01:09] <micahcowan> Oh! That's right... startx won't use .xsession. Put the command in .xinitrc
[01:09] <redblades> Just go with the default.
[01:09] <micahcowan> And then do startx
[01:09] <Moocasso> no, it was there, nevermind :P
[01:09] <Moocasso> Okay
[01:09] <sloucher> khoda: hit return if you don't know
[01:10] <nemlah> Hello all i am having troouble with my tvcard
[01:10] <sloucher> khoda: you can always redo it
[01:10] <nemlah> can someone help me find and solve the problem?
[01:10] <khoda> sloucher thanks
[01:11] <Rikkimaru> How can I figure out what sound card I have (laptop)?
[01:11] <Enverex> nemlah, What's the problem?
[01:11] <Enverex> Rikkimaru, run lspci and look for what it may be
[01:11] <khoda> does it matter what "server modules are loaded by default?"
[01:11] <Moocasso> micahcowan:  just to confirm, it says not authorized to run, I used sudo last time, should I?
[01:11] <gean> holycow : /home/dan is not enough, lots of computer algebra  systems with ugly (non-deb) installation are somewhere ``in the darkness''; by the way : say reinstall is the only choice, where is the list of my already installed Ubuntu-packages ?!
[01:11] <Sanne> Rikkimaru: and lspci -vv gives even more info
[01:11] <sysdoc> Rikkimaru, easiest way is to visit the manufactures web site
[01:12] <sloucher> Khoda: your killing me - if you don't know hit return
[01:12] <micahcowan> Moocasso: no.
[01:12] <Moocasso> k, am I doing somethign wrong then?
[01:12] <khoda> sloucher: I'm a newb, sorry <3
[01:12] <Rikkimaru> Alright, I found the chipset, where can I get the drivers for an Intel audio chipset?
[01:12] <micahcowan> not sure. Hang on a bit.
[01:12] <khoda> sloucher: if i dont ask, ill never know. but i'll keep hitting enter for your benefit :D
[01:12] <Moocasso> k :)
[01:12] <holycow> gean, what does this mean -->  lots of computer algebra  systems with ugly (non-deb) installation are somewhere
[01:12] <Enverex> Where can I change how long the sudo password is saved for?
[01:13] <holycow> gean, its not the only choice, just the easiest
[01:13] <gean> holycow : for instance SAGE, depending on pari, Singular, GAP, but also maple, magma, math, matlab, ...
[01:13] <holycow> gean, so you can't reinstall those?
[01:13] <nemlah> I can't get it to work.. i have read through lots of forums
[01:13] <khoda> how do i get back into gnome after i do the reconfig?
[01:14] <nemlah> but can't find the solution
[01:14] <sloucher> khoda: you can read up on this stuff easy enough http://wiki.x.org/wiki/ - but i suspect for now you just want an interface
[01:14] <gean> holycow : pari installs through synaptic , say, but many others have own rules to get on the HD
[01:14] <nemlah> the card is not recognized
[01:14] <holycow> gean, you didn't convert from rpm - deb?  okay
[01:15] <holycow> gean, how much do you know about networking? all you would need is to get your network card up and connected
[01:15] <holycow> you can reinstall everything from there
[01:15] <khoda> Should I install drivers for my vidcard before going back to the interface?
[01:16] <sloucher> khoda: the drivers should be there already. Or at least some basic drivers will be there already. I guess reconfig didn't work?
[01:16] <khoda> i'm not sure. im in console, how do i got back and test it
[01:16] <husky> http://de.fon.com/
[01:16] <gean> holycow : i can reinstall, but this is a big job, maple has for instance no easy install (have to rewrite code, rename needed lib's , etc), magma is also depending on ``very special libs'', i know it as i moved from knoppix to debian, and later from debian to ubuntu...
[01:16] <nemlah> lspci -v
[01:16] <nemlah> show the card
[01:16] <nemlah> shows
[01:16] <nemlah> when i start xtv i get two black screens
[01:17] <nemlah> and i have to go to another console and kill it
[01:17] <holycow> gean, *nod* i getcha
[01:17] <husky> http://en.fon.com/
[01:17] <khoda> sloucher: how do i get back to gnome?
[01:17] <sloucher> khoda: ctrl alt f7 might work - killing and restarting gdm would be better - for a newbie reboot
[01:17] <holycow> gean, well i guess the first thing we can do is comment out all the other repos in your sources.list and just add your cdrom as a repo
[01:18] <khoda> what's gdm?
[01:18] <holycow> gean, then you should be about to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:18] <gean> holycow: well, i try to survive...
[01:18] <markedwards> hello all, can anyone tell me the default permissions of /etc/ssl/private on Dapper?
[01:18] <sloucher> khoda gnome display manager - there's a lot to know doing it that way though like the commands ps and kill
[01:18] <`DaGuy> Any suggestions on getting MSN mail (HoTmail) to work w/ Evolution Mail?
[01:19] <khoda> sloucher: still hangs. should i try to do the reconfig again?
[01:20] <TobyK> Have a problem dual-booting... Had Ubuntu installed first on an IDE drive a while back, now I need Windows to play a game. Removed the IDE drive (Windows refused to install while it was plugged in), and installed it to a SATA drive. Got it booted working and updated. Plugged the other drives back in, and added an entry for it in GRUB. When I tried to boot to it, I got a generic "Disk Error. Press any key to restart" message.
[01:20] <TobyK> I can't boot to windows any more when that's the only HDD plugged in either.
[01:20] <sloucher> khoda: hard to tell what to do from here - reconfig has a chance to work. I think trying the install might be better to tell you becuase this should be configure for you easily.
[01:21] <`DaGuy> !email
[01:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about email - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:21] <khoda> sloucher: do you mean reinstall ubuntu?
[01:21] <astaroth> I installed a lot of packages from automatix now, got some "couldnt get index file bla bla bla" on some packages, is that normal? everything installed correctly and works. also when it finished I updated some lib file that couldnt get authorised. Did this happend to me only or?
[01:21] <holycow> what is apt setup command again?
[01:21] <holycow> i thought it was apt-setup
[01:21] <sloucher> khoda: yeah, start over
[01:21] <khoda> kk
[01:21] <khoda> sloucher: whats the first command(s) i should run when i install?
[01:22] <astaroth> khoda, are you doing a server install?
[01:22] <khoda> astaroth: yes, its the only kind i'm aware of.
[01:22] <astaroth> ok
[01:22] <khoda> :)
[01:22] <astaroth> I had to do that too
[01:22] <khoda> do what?
[01:22] <astaroth> Cuz the live cd didnt work with my hardware
[01:22] <astaroth> do a server install
[01:22] <micahcowan> Moocasso, what's the exact message?
[01:22] <khoda> astaroth: i actually used livecd first by accident. i want it on my harddrive.
[01:23] <sloucher> khoda: you try the live cd?
[01:23] <markedwards> anyone willing to just check a file perm for me?
[01:23] <khoda> sloucher: i did it by accident. i got into the desktop and it was all messed up (gfx and stuff). couldnt click a thing
[01:23] <Moocasso> you mean when I try to start up with the command in .xsession?
[01:23] <astaroth> well, just make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list points to dapper, then do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. thats all I did
[01:23] <Bergcube> markedwards~  on your computer?  From here?
[01:23] <Sanne> TobyK: did you check your BIOS settings for the bott device? Just a guess...
[01:23] <gean> holycow : i tried it after that apt-cdrom -m add, think i have to try it again, my problems are : no x, no internet connection: maybe i have to insure the correct install of the x-based tool for installation... only chance i see: live cd, get a small partition, install there ubuntu, copy computer algebra system dir tree from the old breezy and then get rid of it ! Thanks for the help ! I'm moving to the other computer at the other end of the
[01:23] <gean> faculty !
[01:23] <markedwards> Bergcube: no, just want to know the permissions of /etc/ssl/private/ on a default install
[01:24] <sloucher> khoda: that don't sound promising - the server cd works too though like astaroth says
[01:24] <markedwards> I hade to do g+r on mine, and I want to know if that is default
[01:24] <Bergcube> markedwards~  ok, I'll peek.  BRB.
[01:24] <nauski> hmmh
[01:24] <khoda> sloucher: im reinstalling, lets see what i get
[01:24] <markedwards> Bergcube: thanks!
[01:24] <Moocasso> micahcowan?  Do you mean when I'm starting up with the command in .xsession?
[01:24] <holycow> gean, well backup all your data first anyway
[01:25] <astaroth> Again: (Since I am starting to get paranoid if I am the only one): I installed a lot of packages from automatix now, got some "couldnt get index file bla bla bla" on some packages, is that normal? everything installed correctly and works. also when it finished I updated some lib file that couldnt get authorised. Did this happend to me only or?
[01:25] <Madpilot> markedwards, looks like it's owned by root, and perms are 700 - read/write/exec only by owner
[01:25] <Bergcube> markedwards~  700
[01:25] <holycow> !automatix
[01:25] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:25] <Madpilot> astaroth, this is why automatix is NOT recommended... it does strange stuff to people's Ubuntu installs...
[01:25] <markedwards> wacky, mine were rwx--x---
[01:25] <markedwards> thanks
[01:25] <holycow> astaroth, you should be paranoid.  i would recommend not using something as stupid as automatix
[01:26] <micahcowan> Moocasso: where it says you don't have authorization, or whatnot, yeah. That's when you run startx, yes?
[01:26] <nauski> can anyone help me getting sounds to work, Im using a Terratec card with optical output
[01:26] <Bergcube> markedwards~  NP!
[01:26] <Moocasso> Oh
[01:26] <dcomsa> hey, does anyone here has edgy installed?
[01:26] <holycow> astaroth, try easyubuntu, it doesn't bypass the package manager
[01:26] <Moocasso> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/fnar/.serverauth.8680X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.xinit:  Server error.Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[01:26] <astaroth> holycow, god. I thought it was good, I just came back to ubuntu from arch linux..dont tell me I have to do it from the start again
[01:26] <Davek23x> has anyone else had a problem with java?
[01:27] <holycow> astaroth, basically think of it this way: the retard that created automatix doesn't have a clue adn should be shot for creating such a thing and convincing people to use it
[01:27] <Rondo> Can one mount a cue/bin in ubuntu with fstab?
[01:27] <dcomsa> Davek23x: what king of problem?
[01:27] <holycow> astaroth, well you are the one that didn't research automatix and its problems ... right?
[01:27] <astaroth> holycow, I sure didnt
[01:27] <skavenge> well he got it half right, runs like glass on some machines and completely destroys others, its a 50/50 shot
[01:27] <Davek23x> well nothing runs
[01:28] <astaroth> Is it bad to use the repo from recommended at psychocats as well? I better ask before I do a reinstall
[01:28] <TobyK> Sanne: Eh? Ubuntu still boots fine, I only get the "Disk Error" when I try to boot windows.
[01:28] <Davek23x> i tried java -jar program.jar and then i get an error main.class not found or something
[01:28] <holycow> astaroth, recommended psychocats? whats that?
[01:28] <dcomsa> Davek23x: try running java -version, and see what you get
[01:28] <astaroth> holycow, I mean the repos thats recommended at psychocats homepage
[01:28] <Skunky26> hi
[01:28] <Sanne> astaroth: while it may seem to be a lot of work at first, it is really beneficial if you do installing those programs by hand. There are lots of tutorials for that on the ubuntu wiki. You'll learn a lot :)
[01:28] <holycow> !psychocat
[01:28] <Madpilot> astaroth, URL of that?
[01:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about psychocat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:29] <Skunky26> someone speak spanish????
[01:29] <Davek23x> java version "1.4.2"
[01:29] <Davek23x> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[01:29] <Madpilot> !es
[01:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:29] <skavenge> Skunky26: #unbuntu-es
[01:29] <skavenge> ubuntu even
[01:29] <Skunky26> thanks
[01:29] <Madpilot> astaroth, use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories for repo information
[01:29] <holycow> astaroth, never heard of it, basically if you use any software off of the internet you need to research the source to find out if its trustworthy ... i don't know about who or what psychocat
[01:29] <astaroth> Sanne, I know how to install the stuff. But automatix sounded like a great tool. spare sp,e to,e
[01:29] <holycow> is
[01:29] <dcomsa> Davek23x: have some problems with the default JVM installed on ubuntu
[01:29] <dcomsa> just install sun's jvm
[01:30] <astaroth> holycow, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources.php
[01:30] <astaroth> check it out
[01:30] <Sanne> TobyK: yeah, I just thought that maybe when the windows disk is the only one plugged in, it still might be needed to set it up as a boot device in the BIOS... but this may be nonsense, it's just a wild guess.
[01:30] <Davek23x> ahh cool i was starting to worry all my favourite apps are java (which is why I am finally free of MS)
[01:30] <nauski> err wtf, I disabled the crappy onboard audiochip from bios. and lspci still says that the multimedia audio controller is c-media plahplah
[01:30] <sysdoc> Sanne, I got a question for ya, can I pm ya?
[01:30] <Sanne> astaroth: ok, I see and understand. Still, I wouldn't recommend it.
[01:31] <skavenge> i use the blackdown java works for me
[01:31] <dcomsa> Davek23x: the package in synaptic is sun-java5-jdk
[01:31] <holycow> astaroth, those all look like ubuntu repos, therefore i would say they are fine
[01:31] <Madpilot> astaroth, that doesn't look too crackish - still, https://help.ubuntu.com/community is the official Ubuntu wiki, it's the best source of info
[01:31] <Desh> Hi, what kernel version would be best for an AMD64 running 32bit UBuntu.
[01:31] <Sanne> sysdoc: hey, how're ya? pm is fine.
[01:31] <sysdoc> coO
[01:31] <dcomsa> i think you need to have multiverse repos enabled
[01:31] <astaroth> Thanks guys, I will reinstall now and come back. See you
[01:31] <Moocasso> micahcowan:  any more ideas?
[01:32] <Davek23x> Edulix: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jdk
[01:32] <Madpilot> blasted automoronix claims another install... :|
[01:32] <Davek23x> hrmm
[01:32] <Davek23x> ecolon
[01:32] <Davek23x> damned shortcuts
[01:32] <Skunky26> someone can tell me how install ubuntu???
[01:32] <Sanne> sysdoc: where's your pm? ;P
[01:32] <dcomsa> Davek23x: you'll need to enable backports, universe and multivers repos
[01:32] <Davek23x> Skunky26 make cd and boot using it
[01:33] <micahcowan> Moocasso: yeah, sorry, was researching some...
[01:33] <nauski> can _anyone_ help?
[01:33] <dcomsa> Davek23x: i don't remember which one has it :)
[01:33] <khoda> okay i just reinstalled. whats the first thing i need to do?
[01:33] <Moocasso> micahcowan: no problem :)  Just wanted to amke sure you got the message, hehe
[01:33] <skavenge> !info sun-java5-sdk
[01:33] <ubotu> Package sun-java5-sdk does not exist in dapper
[01:33] <skavenge> !info sun-java5-jdk
[01:33] <dcomsa> sun-java-5-jdk
[01:33] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[01:33] <skavenge> multiverse
[01:34] <khoda> ?
[01:34] <dcomsa> anyone with edgy here?
[01:34] <sysdoc> Sanne, see pm
[01:34] <dcomsa> i wanna check on a bug
[01:34] <Madpilot> khoda, that depends what you want to do - but starting by enabling the multimedia stuff is a good way to begin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:34] <Madpilot> dcomsa, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy
[01:34] <dcomsa> thanx
[01:35] <phaedrus44> how do i copy text from console?
[01:35] <Sanne> sysdoc: yep
[01:35] <cedric_> khoda Madpilot : use easyubuntu
[01:35] <cedric_> is the first thing to do
[01:36] <micahcowan> phaedrus: typically, you select it with the mouse, and then middle-click somewhere to paste it. Is it /real/ console or X-terminal?
[01:36] <Davek23x> no hits searching synaptic for *java*5*
[01:36] <Konstable> I have a "Broken" ubuntu-desktop package and I can't get it to re-install
[01:36] <cedric_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[01:36] <khoda> i dont have a gui installed or anything
[01:36] <nauski> okay the sound is working but how do I get it to work with the optical output?
[01:36] <phaedrus44> micahcowan:  it is eterm..
[01:36] <cedric_> oh it's a server ?
[01:36] <Davek23x> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:37] <phaedrus44> and i have only 2 button mouse
[01:37] <khoda> cedric_: yea.
[01:37] <cedric_> yo you probably d'ont need restricted format
[01:37] <khoda> cedric_: am i right in assuming the only differnece between a server and livecd is that a server is on you harddrive
[01:37] <Konstable> cedric_: It says that it's not installed.  I think I removed it successfully already, but it won't get itself back.
[01:37] <nauski> I guess you guys arent big fans of music
[01:38] <cedric_> khoda : you are wrong
[01:38] <tuliomgui> someone can help installing the nvidia driver??
[01:38] <FurryNemesis> ooh, it worked.....
[01:38] <FurryNemesis> what card?
[01:38] <cedric_> reinstall using theso easy 6.06
[01:38] <verix> hey, there wouldn't happen to be a program for Linux that allows you to write in Asian characters, would there?
[01:39] <Davek23x> tuliomgui - what card?
[01:39] <micahcowan> if chording is enabled, then you can select text, and press /both/ mouse buttons somewhere to paste.
[01:39] <nauski> omfg, 5 questions and not a single even remotely helpful answer
[01:39] <mjr> verix, yes
[01:39] <micahcowan> phaedrus: ^^
[01:39] <verix> what's it called?
[01:39] <nauski> is there an ubuntu help channel?
[01:39] <khoda> I installed ubuntu for the first time today (first time at linux) and it messed up first time. i just reinstalled - what's the first thing i should do
[01:39] <tuliomgui> Davek23x, mx440
[01:39] <verix> khoda: what's it doing?
[01:39] <mjr> verix, scim is the canonical system for weird inputs, I think :)
[01:39] <Davek23x> you have to edit a file called xorg.conf
[01:39] <nauski> CAN ANYONE HELP ME GETTING THE OPTICAL OUTPUT TO WORK?
[01:39] <Davek23x> look for a how to on the net
[01:39] <FurryNemesis> you need the nvidia-glx-legacy packages from synaptic
[01:39] <tuliomgui> can you helo me please??
[01:39] <verix> mjr: canonical system?
[01:39] <mjr> verix, apt-cache search scim for relevant packages
[01:39] <paul__> quick question: it is normal for window redraws and resizes on the desktop to be noticably slower than in Windows, even with the NVidia drivers installed?
[01:39] <phaedrus44> micahcowan:  i guess chording is not enabled...how do i?
[01:40] <verix> ahh, thank you!
[01:40] <khoda> the first time i installed i did "sudo apt-get install ubunto-desktop" but the gui was all messed up. it hung on the splash logo after i logged in
[01:40] <khoda> this time i want to make sure i'm doing it right.
[01:40] <tuliomgui> Davek23x, can you please help me
[01:40] <mjr> verix, canonical as in usual, recommended, etc
[01:40] <micahcowan> you'll have to change your xorg.conf file... I won't be able to walk you through it atm because I'm trying to figure out Moocasso's problem...
[01:40] <Davek23x> I have a geforce Fx 5200
[01:40] <tuliomgui> i cant stand this screen configuration
[01:40] <nauski> oh for fuck sake, useless channel
[01:40] <Konstable> trying to re-install ubuntu-desktop, I get: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[01:41] <Davek23x> and I had to edit the xorg.conf file
[01:41] <Konstable> and those two options dont help
[01:41] <verix> mjr: thank you, I found what I wanted :)
[01:41] <Davek23x> but hey start by going to the nvidia site and downloading your drivers
[01:41] <ghost3> need help "re-installing" daper drake
[01:41] <tuliomgui> ive done it
[01:41] <Davek23x> ok have you tried running it?
[01:41] <tuliomgui> yes
[01:41] <ghost3> i to was runnig daper-drake, i formated the laptop and was going to install it again, the desktop installer on live cd"i perfer this way better" seems to hang when ran. i ran a check cd for error in grub but says everything is ok..
[01:42] <Davek23x> and what happens
[01:42] <tuliomgui> the installer beggins normally
[01:42] <ghost3> it was installed, now i cant reinstall it
[01:42] <ghost3> no
[01:42] <ghost3> very slow
[01:42] <tuliomgui> and an error occurs, it says a have to exit my X
[01:42] <tuliomgui> i dont know
[01:42] <khoda> what's the difference between "desktop" and "server" ?
[01:42] <ghost3> no errors
[01:42] <tuliomgui> something like thar
[01:42] <tuliomgui> that*
[01:42] <FurryNemesis> oh
[01:42] <micahcowan> Moocasso: with the xmodmap command in .xinitrc, do the startx -- :1 from a real console (Ctrl-Alt-F1). Again, you'll need (Ctrl-Alt-F7) to get back to your desktop.
[01:42] <Davek23x> so you are installing from the console not from within the GUI
[01:42] <FurryNemesis> reboot x
[01:42] <verix> oh crap, I can't remember-- what's the command to plug in commands you want when Gnome starts up?
[01:42] <tuliomgui> yes
[01:42] <Moocasso> Okay
[01:42] <verix> or at least to configure that part
[01:42] <tuliomgui> should i try from the GUI?
[01:43] <ghost3> gui, didnt know daper had a text mode
[01:43] <Davek23x> and the GUI is shut down completely
[01:43] <Davek23x> no
[01:43] <Davek23x> wont work
[01:43] <tuliomgui> yes
[01:43] <tuliomgui> thats true
[01:43] <khoda> what's the difference between "desktop" and "server" ?
[01:43] <ghost3> serer install appache
[01:43] <Davek23x> and you ran sudo /etc/init.d/gdk stop
[01:43] <ghost3> server
[01:43] <mjr> verix, if you're looking to start scim, just install scim-gtk2-immodule instead, IIRC it should do it for Gnome
[01:43] <verix> it's smahh
[01:43] <verix> alright, thanks
[01:43] <tuliomgui> before running the nvidia installer?
[01:43] <Moocasso> fatal server errorver is already active for display 0
[01:44] <Davek23x> yeah
[01:44] <tuliomgui> no
[01:44] <tuliomgui> would be that?
[01:44] <verix> ah, it's already there
[01:44] <Moocasso> micahcowan:  sorry, that was "fatal server error, server is already active for display 0"  :P
[01:44] <Davek23x> ok try that and be sure to download your kernal development files
[01:44] <khoda> Okay, so I just re-installed server because I messed up on my first install. What is the first thing I should do? I'm sitting in the console
[01:44] <Moocasso> should I ctrl+alt+backspace and try again?
[01:44] <tuliomgui> kernel development files?
[01:44] <Davek23x> basically download and install everything in the developement folder that you can
[01:44] <tuliomgui> im not sure about that
[01:44] <Davek23x> then exit to console
[01:45] <ghost3> if some one has the time to help me please im me at yahoo biotech_techwars
[01:45] <khoda> Davek23x are you talking ot me
[01:45] <Davek23x> type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:45] <Davek23x> then sudo sh nvida(whatever).sh
[01:45] <khoda> Okay, so I just re-installed server because I messed up on my first install. What is the first thing I should do? I'm sitting in the console... anyone?
[01:45] <Davek23x> no sorry it was tuliomgui
[01:46] <rita> ola
[01:46] <ghost3> sorry khoda, i dont know.
[01:46] <micahcowan> Moocasso: it shouldn't be trying display 0 if you had the -- :1 bit after startx?
[01:46] <khoda> I'm sure someone has to.
[01:47] <Moocasso> yep
[01:47] <Moocasso> startx --:1
[01:47] <tuliomgui> Davek23x, man, my interface went down
[01:47] <tuliomgui> auhauhauhauhauha
[01:47] <khoda> I just installed the server. How do I get into a GUI?
[01:47] <micahcowan> Oh! make sure there's a space between -- and :
[01:47] <khoda> (Firs ttime user)
[01:47] <tuliomgui> was that supposed to happen?
[01:47] <ghost3> yes, someone has to, but look at them, to many questions and not enough people with the answers
[01:47] <polpak> khoda: what gui do you want?
[01:47] <Davek23x> khoda /etc/init.d/gdm start lol
[01:47] <khoda> what's the most widely used?
[01:47] <polpak> khoda: and why did you choose server?
[01:47] <Moocasso> oh, k
[01:47] <polpak> khoda: gnome is the default for ubuntu
[01:48] <khoda> polpak: I want to learn about network administration
[01:48] <ghost3> or kde
[01:48] <khoda> PacketScan: okay so how do i get into gnome
[01:48] <khoda> errr
[01:48] <khoda> polpak:
[01:48] <khoda> how do i get into gnome
[01:48] <tuliomgui> Davek23x, by stopping the gdm and runnig the installer, will it work?
[01:48] <Konstable> What's the fastest way to remove Ubuntu from my harddrive and reclaim my partitions.
[01:48] <Davek23x> if its installed try startx
[01:48] <ghost3> format
[01:48] <Davek23x> ok noob question how do you run a bin file?
[01:48] <polpak> khoda: is this a production system? or is it just you using it?
[01:49] <khoda> polpak: its just my personal system
[01:49] <Moocasso> micahcowan: says some stuff about "refcount is 2, should be 1, fixing..." then goes back to a terminal
[01:49] <dcomsa> Davek23x: sh thefile.bin
[01:49] <polpak> khoda: do you have the "desktop" install cd?
[01:49] <Davek23x> ez money
[01:49] <polpak> khoda: I don't think you actually want the server install
[01:49] <polpak> khoda: if you don't it's fine
[01:49] <khoda> polpak: why?
[01:49] <z0r1> How do I change nm-applet's master keychain password?
[01:49] <khoda> polpak: what's the difference?
[01:50] <polpak> khoda: the server installs less
[01:50] <polpak> khoda: like no gui =p
[01:50] <z0r1> I accidently set it to the same as my 64 character WPA password .. so I have to type my WPA password everytime nm-applet tries to get on the net ...
[01:50] <khoda> polpak: won't i learn more this way? :D
[01:50] <tuliomgui> hey Davek23x, same problem
[01:50] <z0r1> Does anyone know how to change the nm-applet password?
[01:50] <polpak> khoda: not nessicaraly
[01:50] <polpak> khoda: have you used linux before?
[01:50] <tuliomgui> it says i have to exit my X server before continue
[01:50] <Davek23x> wow man you couldnt have downloaded and installed all the files that quickly
[01:50] <khoda> polpak: nope
[01:50] <PacketScan> z0r1, passwd
[01:50] <Davek23x> ok hey
[01:50] <Davek23x> right now
[01:50] <polpak> khoda: just do the standard ubuntu desktop install for starters then
[01:50] <z0r1> passwd will change nm-applet's password?
[01:50] <Davek23x> konsole
[01:51] <ghost3> can someone help me with a simple install prob with daper
[01:51] <tuliomgui> i just stopped the gdm and tried to run the installer
[01:51] <polpak> khoda: you can use everything the server has, but you'll also have a gui/browser, etc.
[01:51] <tuliomgui> yeah
[01:51] <polpak> khoda: so it'll be usable as a desktop system
[01:51] <tuliomgui> console
[01:51] <Davek23x> type ps -ux
[01:51] <khoda> polpak: okay will do ... but i was under the impression that just boots off of the cd, doesnt install to harddrive. is that wrong?
[01:51] <tuliomgui> a lot of things listed
[01:52] <z0r1> Anyone know how to change nm-applet's master password?
[01:52] <mejobloggs> !compile
[01:52] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:52] <Sanne> ghost3: just tell us what's wrong, if somebody knows, he/she will surely help.
[01:52] <PacketScan> z0r1, passwd
[01:52] <ghost3> thanks
[01:52] <Davek23x> ok the numbers to the right of your name
[01:52] <z0r1> passwd doesn't work
[01:52] <polpak> khoda: once it boots off the cd there is a icon on the desktop to install to the hard disk
[01:52] <Davek23x> are process ID's
[01:52] <PacketScan> z0r1, passwd <username>
[01:52] <z0r1> it just want to change "UNIX password"
[01:52] <khoda> polpak: will it give me the option of getting rid of the server install
[01:52] <Davek23x> to end a process use kill -9 process ID
[01:52] <tuliomgui> PID
[01:52] <z0r1> PacketScan I'm talking about the master password for nm-applet's keychain for WPA passwords
[01:52] <PacketScan> right. applets don't store their own passwords.
[01:53] <z0r1> you are talking about changing a user passwords
[01:53] <polpak> khoda: is the server install the only thing on the box right now?
[01:53] <ghost3> i had it installed beofre, i formated my system and wne to reinstall it again, the installer on the desktop hangs for long time, i ran a check cd in grub and it all checks out fine. help
[01:53] <khoda> polpak: nope, windows too
[01:53] <tuliomgui> so a have to kill the x server and then try to isntall?
[01:53] <Davek23x> so when you end your session and it says x is still running try killing it that way
[01:53] <aqau_inter_fly> Hello everyone
[01:53] <tuliomgui> ok
[01:53] <ghost3> i downloaded a fresh iso and tried it, same thing
[01:53] <Davek23x> any seconds on that
[01:53] <tuliomgui> ill be right back
[01:53] <Davek23x> ??
[01:53] <polpak> khoda: well then you'll want to go through the manual partition process, and reformat the current ubuntu install, then install the desktop install on that partition
[01:54] <z0r1> PacketScan my password for my user is about 10 characters long .. the password to access my wifi keys is about 64 characters ... passwd doesn't change the password for nm-applet's keychain
[01:54] <paul__> z0r1 - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=410266
[01:54] <FurryNemesis> ghost: have you tried a low level format before attempting the re-install?
[01:54] <khoda> polpak: won't the desktop install let me partition?
[01:54] <polpak> khoda: yes it will
[01:54] <aqau_inter_fly> I'm having a problem with weireless networking...I can set up my wireless network each time i boot in terminal, but when i try to permanemtly keep my wireless setting, i'm having problems
[01:54] <mejobloggs> !build-essential
[01:54] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:54] <z0r1> Well as soon as google browser sync  .. syncs .. I can thank paul ...
[01:54] <aqau_inter_fly> Can anyone help me?
[01:55] <ghost3> i formated useing the win xp cd then installed win home, just like i did last time, but this time it dont work
[01:55] <Sanne> gotta get some sleep, by all, by sysdoc, nice meeting you again :)
[01:55] <z0r1> Thank you paul__
[01:55] <sysdoc> cya gurl!
[01:55] <ghost3> both win and linux on the system, ya i know i still use it :P
[01:56] <FurryNemesis> hmm
[01:56] <ChakRa> ~__~
[01:56] <FurryNemesis> what partitions have you got on there?
[01:56] <aqau_inter_fly> can anyone hep me with wireless networking?
[01:56] <Ropechoborra> Some cool game for ubuntu ?? =)
[01:56] <valehru> how can I change the colour of the brown splash screen in gnome?
[01:56] <holycow> ghost3, its fine, if ya got games ya need sure
[01:56] <Blazeix> Cool games are nexuiz and sauerbraten - both FPS
[01:56] <Blazeix> Both are free
[01:56] <dcomsa> aqau_inter_fly: just ask the question and hopefully someone will answer
[01:57] <khoda> polpak: im getting into desktop right now. the graphics look messed up
[01:57] <aqau_inter_fly> dcomsa: already did...but i can again
[01:57] <paul__> 2nd try: it is normal for window redraws and resizes on the desktop to be noticably slower than in Windows, even with the NVidia drivers installed?
[01:57] <PSC1315_willnich> my USB is under /dev/bus/usb/001/ is that normaly? should it not under /dev/usb/  be?
[01:57] <khoda> polpak: like sketchy and stuff
[01:57] <Ropechoborra> valehru Sistem > Admin > Start Up Window
[01:57] <ghost3> now, only one, i was going to "thanks holycow" use the partioner on the cd like i did last time
[01:57] <holycow> guys, why doesn't apt-setup work in ubuntu?
[01:57] <eric__> I have what I hope is an easy question.
[01:57] <FurryNemesis> hmm
[01:57] <polpak> khoda: is it booting, or is it in the desktop?
[01:57] <valehru> Ropechoborra, Start Up Window?  dont have that one
[01:57] <eric__> I'm trying to install Turboprint in ubuntu.
[01:57] <holycow> ghost3, heh
[01:58] <eric__> The installer keeps quitting with the error 'need to be in root user mode'.
[01:58] <Ropechoborra> valehru MMM Mine is in spanish.. so the translation wont be the same.. but something like that...
[01:58] <khoda> polpak: right now its hanging on the ubuntu splash logo with a maroon background. i think its the image before you see the desktop. it might still be loading
[01:58] <Madpilot> valehru, System->Admin->Login Window
[01:58] <eric__> How do I do that in ubuntu?
[01:58] <Ropechoborra> valehru i guess its in the bottom...
[01:58] <ghost3> holycow ghostrecon and starcraft cant live with out it :)
[01:58] <aqau_inter_fly> eric__: is the installer in terminal?
[01:58] <khoda> polpak: i can move the mouse around, but the image is just staying there... hanging
[01:58] <Madpilot> eric__, sticking sudo in front doesn't help?
[01:58] <polpak> khoda: it may take a while
[01:58] <khoda> polpak: noted
[01:58] <polpak> khoda: the live cd is a bit sluggish
[01:58] <eric__> aqau_inter_fly: I've tried it in terminal and in the gui.
[01:59] <polpak> khoda: the actual desktop is not
[01:59] <khoda> polpak: someone should work on that! ;)
[01:59] <shiv> Is there any weather application that works on dapper?
[01:59] <holycow> !apt-setup
[01:59] <FurryNemesis> ghost3: you're not trying to install Ubuntu on an NTFS partition, are you?
[01:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-setup - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:59] <aqau_inter_fly> eric__: if you are in terminal, you can put "sudo" before the command to make it fun in root user mode
[01:59] <dcomsa> shiv: check gDesklets
[01:59] <Madpilot> shiv, there's a little Gnome applet that shows weather, and gDesklets has one too
[01:59] <holycow> guys, and anyone run sudo apt-setup on their dapper system and tell me if apt-setup exists ?
[01:59] <eric__> Funny thing - - I navigate to the unpacked directory for Turboprint, I can LS and see the setup, but I say "setup" and it says command not found.
[01:59] <Blazeix> shiv:If you use firefox, consider getting the forcastfox extension
[01:59] <ghost3> no, wont even get that far, hangs while loading the lang. for me to pick
[01:59] <valehru> Ropechoborra, thats for the login screen....Im talking about the brown windowt that appears stating whats starting up as you boot into gnome
[02:00] <valehru> splash screen
[02:00] <shiv> dcomsa: I tried those none of the desklets work also iweather which is hard to find now. None of them work any more
[02:00] <holycow> !splash
[02:00] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[02:00] <Ropechoborra> valehru the grub one?
[02:00] <FurryNemesis> ok
[02:00] <ghost3> FurryNemesis: not sure what to do now
[02:00] <holycow> bootsplash i think  you mean
[02:00] <khoda> polpak: still hanging on that logo...
[02:00] <cedric_> !bcm43xx
[02:00] <Madpilot> valehru, see the line ubotu just posted
[02:00] <holycow> !bootsplash
[02:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[02:00] <valehru> no
[02:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about bootsplash - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:00] <valehru> not grub..
[02:00] <Ropechoborra> valehru nono.. i know.. the splash window... yes.. that is the pleace.. i changed it today =)
[02:00] <paul__> holycow - I get bash: apt-setup: command not found
[02:00] <aqau_inter_fly> eric__: or, you can type "sudo -i" as a command itself and then it will ask for your password and when you type it and hit enter, then you will permanetely be in root user mode until you close terminal
[02:01] <holycow> valehru, if its the gnome splash, just change the key noted by ubotu
[02:01] <holycow> paul__, thanks dude, so its gone
[02:01] <holycow> thats idiotic
[02:01] <holycow> appreciate the confirmation
[02:01] <aqau_inter_fly> eric__: if there is a # next to your name then you are in root mode, if there is a $, then you are not
[02:01] <khoda> polpak: i have an AMD 64 dual core, that's not a problem, right
[02:01] <Ropechoborra> valehru but... there.. is an option that talks about the splash image.. see carefully its there
[02:01] <ghost3> FurryNemesis: im doing just what i did before but it hangs, i even burned the new iso at a slower speed
[02:01] <khoda> polpak: i downloaded the AMD64 version
[02:02] <Ropechoborra> Is the kernel 686 the bestone for a Celeron 2GHz ??
[02:02] <polpak> khoda: well afaik it works ok, but somethings are a little trikier
[02:02] <dcomsa> valehru: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11478
[02:02] <khoda> polpak: its still hanging.. :\
[02:02] <aqau_inter_fly> Okay, I need a little help...how do I permanetely set up a wireless network?
[02:02] <ghost3> FurryNemesis: not sure if there is a text mode and if so no ideal how to install from there, thats why i dont use slackwear :P
[02:02] <FurryNemesis> ok
[02:03] <FurryNemesis> see the private note I sent you?
[02:03] <mwe> heh. I installed linux on my mp3 player :)
[02:03] <ghost3> FurryNemesis: no
[02:03] <FurryNemesis> oopsy
[02:03] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: hey
[02:03] <FurryNemesis> right
[02:03] <holycow> mwe, sweet
[02:03] <spydr> any recommendations for a good fm tuner proggie for ubuntu (that works with a hauppauge pvr 350 at least)
[02:03] <holycow> what device?
[02:03] <eric__> aqau_inter_fly: so I go to the turboprint directory and do sudo setup (setup is in green); it prompts me for a password, which I give, then it says "command not found".
[02:03] <FurryNemesis> you can get into windows, yes?>
[02:03] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: hey
[02:03] <shiv> does anyone know how to install thesaurus in openoffice to look up the synonyms?
[02:03] <paul__> mew: I did that once with Puppy. It sounds awful!
[02:04] <Blazeix> valehru: Have you looked here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835
[02:04] <ghost3> FurryNemesis: im useing x-chat for windows, i dont see anything u use yahoo?
[02:04] <mwe> paul__: actually it's very useful as I don't have a cd drive on this laptop
[02:04] <FurryNemesis> I'm using xchat too, I may have messed up
[02:04] <scotth> anyone here having problems with edgy and the kernel doing stupid things... such as accessing beyond the end of the device for apts stuff?
[02:04] <ghost3> FurryNemesis: yes
[02:04] <ghost3> FurryNemesis: im on it now
[02:04] <mwe> paul__: so for rescue and so it is useful
[02:04] <aqau_inter_fly> eric__:  sorry:( i don't relaly know im kind of a begginner
[02:05] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: permanetely setting up my wireless network isn't working
[02:05] <FurryNemesis> right, boot, dl something called the Ultimate Boot CD
[02:05] <dcomsa> scotth: join #ubuntu+1
[02:05] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: oh
[02:05] <ghost3> FurryNemesis: k
[02:05] <paul__> my laptop won't boot to USB which is anoying though; but it works fine on this desktop system
[02:05] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: what happens?
[02:05] <eric__> Anybody: I'm trying to run a setup for turboprint.  The "setup" file is green in my terminal.  I type "setup" and I get 'command not found'.  What am I doing wrong?
[02:05] <tuliomgui> where is Dave23x?
[02:05] <FurryNemesis> burn to disc and then do a low-level format (it'll be under something called KillDisk) of the partition you want to install Ubuntu to
[02:05] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: when i go type the stuff in in the networking tool, when i hit apply, my computer completely freezes and i have to pull the plug
[02:06] <polpak> khoda: that's unusual. how much ram do you have?
[02:06] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: odd. sounds broken
[02:06] <khoda> polpak: 2 GB
[02:06] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: however, when i reboot, the settings are still saved in there, but it doesn't work
[02:06] <scotth> dcomsa: ty
[02:06] <khoda> polpak: it could be the fact that i have dual screen hooked up. i'm going to take one out and reboot
[02:06] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: if you nano /etc/network/interfaces, do you see anything about your card?
[02:06] <nathan> am i the only drunk one here
[02:07] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: do you need to go into termin and type ifdown eth0 everytime
[02:07] <ghost3> will this disk let me make partions?
[02:07] <FurryNemesis> yep
[02:07] <ghost3> nice
[02:07] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: nono you can make it work
[02:07] <FurryNemesis> and format them properly too, plus lots of other nifty stuff
[02:07] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: you can make it permanent by hand if the gui is broken
[02:07] <ghost3> cool :)
[02:08] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: can you paste the contents of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:08] <nathan> in pastebin yes
[02:08] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: i remember editing the interfaces thing when i set up the driver
[02:08] <ghost3> i dont see an iso file? do they have one
[02:08] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: and yes, it says: auto rausb0
[02:08] <FurryNemesis> should do
[02:08] <FurryNemesis> let me hunt a bit
[02:08] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: can you paste the file please?
[02:08] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: and it has my adress and essid and wep key
[02:09] <ghost3> k
[02:09] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: yes
[02:09] <eric__> What does it mean in terminal when a filename is green?
[02:09] <Ropechoborra> How to change the grub background image????
[02:09] <eric__> Do I have to address it differently?
[02:09] <ghost3> all i see is exe and zip torront files
[02:09] <wildman> eric__, that it is executable
[02:09] <mwe> eric__: it's executeable
[02:10] <mwe> eric__: ls -l will show it
[02:10] <FurryNemesis> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html
[02:10] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18551
[02:10] <eric__> mwe: Just typing the word doesn't seem to work.
[02:10] <Alethes> it's either a real executable or a file with the wrong permissions, such a file copied via smb
[02:10] <FurryNemesis> you need the exe thingy, its self-extracting to ISO
[02:10] <eric__> mwe: I got it to go by using midnight commander.
[02:10] <mwe> eric__: type ./filename
[02:10] <ghost3> thanks for your help, you have yahoo?
[02:10] <eric__> mwe: oh.  Not very intuitive (said the mac user).  Thanks!
[02:11] <FurryNemesis> nope, just this
[02:11] <mwe> eric__: if you don't like it add . to your $PATH
[02:11] <ghost3> ok thanks again, goto go, you here offten?
[02:11] <FurryNemesis> ie xchat, which I'm still learning
[02:11] <wildman> eric__, that happens because "." (the current dir) is not on your PATH... otherwise you should be able to just type the name
[02:11] <FurryNemesis> sometimes
[02:11] <FurryNemesis> good luck
[02:11] <wildman> slow writer :P
[02:11] <ghost3> thanks :)
[02:11] <Dark_Knight_209> i'm having an issu with having two sound cards, one built in that doesn't work at all. And  a pci one. ubuntu seems to use my built in none functional one by default. is there a way to set the other device as the system default?
[02:12] <Dark_Knight_209> issue*
[02:12] <khoda> polpak: still hanging.
[02:12] <wildman> Dark_Knight_209, alias the modules differently
[02:12] <tuliomgui> can somebody help me installing my display card driver??
[02:12] <tuliomgui> please!
[02:12] <synthjet> hi.. anybody using or maybe could throw some insight on x macro recorder/player (like xnee) on Ubuntu? googling didnt help....
[02:12] <wildman> Dark_Knight_209, sound_slot_0 (or something like that) aliased to the 'working' sound card (to be default)
[02:13] <polpak> khoda: well you could use the alternate install cd.. It doesn't use a gui for the install
[02:13] <polpak> khoda: I had problems with the normal desktop installer myself (kept crashing after the partitioning stage)
[02:14] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: did you get my message?
[02:14] <khoda> polpak: this is frustrating haha
[02:14] <nin----jaaa> anyone have links to a good python tutorial for complete python newbs
[02:14] <redblades> I might, give me a second
[02:15] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: change static to dhcp in line 20 and remove lines 7,13,14,16,17,21,22,23,24 and 29
[02:15] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: but make a backup first just in case
[02:15] <wildman> Dark_Knight_209, sorry for not being more specific, I remember very little about this 2 sound cards issue (and the OS wasn't ubuntu ;))
[02:16] <redblades> nin----jaaa, The Python site has many good tutorials.
[02:17] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: and then paste /etc/network/do_wep as well. I don't know what that is supposed to do
[02:18] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: okay, just give me a sec though
[02:18] <gean> PLEASE HELP me rebuild the x-support: i've upgraded from 5.10 Breezy to 6.06 Dapper, but something went wrong: ERROR MESS: (00) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then :_ FAILED to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so : ANY IDEA ?!
[02:18] <aqau_inter_fly> wme:  when you say you won't me to delete line 7, do you also want me to delete line 8, because it kind of goes with it
[02:19] <fr00d> Heyho..
[02:19] <FurryNemesis> gean
[02:19] <gean> FurryNemesis : yes..
[02:19] <synthjet> hi.. anybody using or maybe could throw some insight on x macro recorder/player (like xnee) on Ubuntu? I installed the rpm (as latest deb was missing) and "alien"-ed it, and got it installed.. but it gives probs and hangs up.. anybody had any success?
[02:19] <FurryNemesis> type in a console : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.conf
[02:19] <mwe> gean: yeah remove load glcore from the file after making a backup
[02:19] <Smeggy> does anyone know how to force a refresh rate on a CRT monitor... I have a 22" crt and it supports 100hz on every other operating system... Ubuntu only gets it to 85hz... The vert and horiz rates are correctly set.
[02:19] <fr00d> Does anybody know the error when system is halting when it says "Checking battery state..."? What's wrong there?
[02:20] <FurryNemesis> that will give you the option to re-set-up your xserver
[02:20] <dcomsa> fr00d: maybe you battery is dead :) (joke)
[02:21] <fr00d> dcomsa: I don't think so because there is no power cable inserted... ;)
[02:22] <dcomsa> fr00d: really now, perhaps you battery was depleted and needed to be recharged
[02:22] <FurryNemesis> gean, if you can
[02:22] <fr00d> /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/* gives also much information about my battery..
[02:22] <FurryNemesis> 't get into the command line
[02:22] <mwe> fr00d: a work around (not a fix) would be to disable acpi-support from the boot process
[02:23] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: okay, if im using just a regular text editor instead of vi, is there anyway to save it?
[02:23] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: not if you opened the file as a regular user
[02:24] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: you should gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:24] <fr00d> dcomsa: That's a strange battery check.. I'll have a try.
[02:24] <fr00d> thx
[02:24] <dcomsa> fr00d: you could check the power settings to see how the system is set to behave
[02:24] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe:  wait i just found my problem
[02:24] <FurryNemesis> gean, then boot to grub, select the ubuntu line and hit e, then select the line that ends with kernel and hit e, then add the word single to the end of that line. then boot
[02:24] <thetruth> what does it mean when I place _ _ under a word?  eg. _apparently_
[02:24] <dcomsa> maybe it's set to turn off when the battery is low
[02:24] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: yes?
[02:24] <Nekow42> Hey, what package do I have to install to see japanese filenames correctly in Nautilus?
[02:24] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: when i created the file do_wep, I was supposed to edit it with my essid, and wep key, but i didn't
[02:24] <gean> FurryNemesis : THANKS ! looks good, but: there is no xserver-xorg.conf, the root bash gives me some possible completions after xserver-xorg (very many) shall i try [dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ## ??] 
[02:25] <FurryNemesis> gean, yep
[02:25] <aqau_inter_fly> i'll past it
[02:25] <FurryNemesis> try it there
[02:25] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: don't use that
[02:25] <gean> FurryNemesis : Great, thanks, doin it ..
[02:25] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: just do what I said and remove that line as well
[02:25] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: what line?
[02:25] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: the key and essid are set with the wireless-* options
[02:26] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: 25
[02:26] <aqau_inter_fly> okay, do you want me to delete that file?
[02:26] <Nekow42> Foreign characters just show up as a ? in a black diamond...
[02:26] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: change static to dhcp in line 20 and remove lines 7,13,14,16,17,21,22,23,24,25 and 29
[02:26] <synthjet> hi.. did anybody here use this package "xnee" on Unbuntu?
[02:26] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: I feel convinced it will work that way
[02:26] <gean> FurryNemesis : ok, Ubuntu configuration menu opened ! i'll go the described way , thanks once more ! This was the rescue for my whole week end !
[02:27] <FurryNemesis> no prob, I had the same issue
[02:27] <FurryNemesis> good luck
[02:27] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: okay
[02:27] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: when i do the command vi etc/network/interfaces, it says file cannot be found
[02:27] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: /etc not just etc
[02:28] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: also use sudo
[02:28] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: and make a backup
[02:28] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: i used sudo -i when i openede terminal
[02:28] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: did that too
[02:28] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: ok then you don't need sudo again
[02:29] <Vilkacis> I think I installed 2 versions of mysql, or something. In any event, none of the documentation for MySQL is helping me because everytime I type mysql -u root, I am rejected. Even if I try a password with -p=password.
[02:29] <Vilkacis> ...this is probably completely unrelated to Ubuntu in general but I do not know where else to go. -_-
[02:29] <Tokeiito> labanaktis (good night)
[02:30] <Vilkacis> How do I REMOVE it and start over, maybe?
[02:30] <mcherm> Hello. I'm hoping someone can help me with wireless networking problems. My wireless connection worked correctly from when I first installed ubuntu, with no configuration needed. Then I must have made *some* change when visiting elsewhere and connecting to their network. Now I can't get it working here. What are the first steps for troubleshooting?
[02:30] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: did you do anything manually to load the module for your wifi card just before I helped you last time?
[02:31] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: i did a lot of stuff
[02:31] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: including loading the driver?
[02:32] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: yes
[02:33] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: does rausb0 show if you type ifconfig -a?
[02:33] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: hold on im going to finish editing this file (i know im taking forever
[02:33] <thetruth> how can I create a encrypted filsystem and hard drive?
[02:33] <mwe> ok
[02:34] <mwe> thetruth: I think there is a wiki explaining it on wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <Vilkacis> Anyone have any expertise in MySQL?
[02:34] <mwe> Vilkacis: some
[02:34] <mwe> Vilkacis: well I wouldn't consider myself an expert but I've used it
[02:35] <Vilkacis> mwe: I think I broke it. I have been following the manuals but everytime I type the command they tell me to, the mysql commands get rejected.
[02:35] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: yes it does show up
[02:35] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: you should be good then
[02:35] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: paste the new interfaces file so I can verify it
[02:35] <dcomsa> Vilkacis: try sudo mysql
[02:35] <Vilkacis> dcomsa: Thought of that. Same error. I was doing it all in su originally.
[02:36] <mwe> sudo mysql?
[02:36] <dcomsa> so, what's the error you're gettin
[02:36] <dcomsa> mwe: to login as root
[02:36] <mwe> mysqld doesn't care about root or not, only the password
[02:36] <Nekow42> In Nautilus, all foreign characters (like japanese,or even letters with an umlaut) show up as a ? in a diamond, and Opera's file browser refuses to show them all-together...
[02:36] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18554
[02:37] <Vilkacis> ...wait, OK.. something I have done seems to have fixed.. something. I added 'MySQL Administrator' to the applications list (as well as the query browswer) and it's loaded in.
[02:37] <dcomsa> yeah, but by default, mysql grants root all the access
[02:37] <mwe> running mysql with sudo wont let you login without a correct pass
[02:37] <dcomsa> root doesn't need a pass (by default)
[02:37] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: i found a problem
[02:38] <abo> is there a Graphical sql client for ubuntu?
[02:38] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: what's eth2?
[02:38] <Vilkacis> OK, command-line still doesn't work like it should but the GUI APPEARS to be working. Let me try with this for a bit.
[02:38] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: do you have 3 ethernet cards?
[02:38] <Vilkacis> abo: Apparently!
[02:38] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: i dono why but there is an extra 105& after dhcp
[02:38] <dcomsa> abo: mysql query browser
[02:38] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: I have no clue what eth2 is
[02:38] <abo> how do I get that?
[02:38] <nathan> phpmyadmin :D
[02:38] <abo> sudo apt-get install ??
[02:38] <Vilkacis> abo: I went to applications > add applications and searched for 'sql'
[02:39] <dcomsa> yes
[02:39] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: the only things i've ever used are the rausb0 and eth0
[02:39] <nathan> apt-get install phpmyadmin, it is your friend
[02:40] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: remove lines 8-11 then and the extra blank lines. and indent lines 15-17 with a tab
[02:40] <Nekow42> phpmyadmin is excellent, I've used webmin before too for MySQL, but it isn't MySQL specialized
[02:40] <mcherm> Hi. My wireless card used to work, but is now failing. I've tried bringing it down and up (using "sudo iwconfig") which doesn't help. I've looked at the output of ifconfig, iwconfig, and netstat but with my limited knowledge I cannot discern a problem. The symptom is that I'm apparently not getting assigned an IP via DHCP, nor can I ping my gateway. Suggestions anyone?
[02:40] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: how do i exit a vi without saving
[02:41] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: :q!
[02:41] <nathan> aqau_inter_fly, :q!
[02:41] <mwe> nathan: copycat :)
[02:41] <Nekow42> mcherm: Power-cycled your gateway?
[02:41] <nathan> mwahha :P
[02:41] <mcherm> aqua_inter_fly: esc q !
[02:41] <tuliomgui> can somebody tell me how do I enable 70Hz on my video refresh??
[02:41] <tuliomgui> it doesnt appear
[02:42] <tuliomgui> 70 or more
[02:42] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: yeah you have to type esc first if it's in insert mode
[02:42] <tuliomgui> i cant stand this 60Hz rate
[02:42] <tuliomgui> im having headake
[02:42] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: yeah i have a little knowledge of vi
[02:42] <nathan> there is a handy vi cheat sheet
[02:42] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: nano is more friendly for quick edits if you're not used to vi
[02:42] <Nekow42> :q always worked for me, maybe I'm lazy leaving off the !
[02:43] <tuliomgui> please somebody help me
[02:43] <mwe> Nekow42: not if you changed something it wont let you quit then
[02:43] <nathan> Nekow42, that only works if no changes have been mae
[02:43] <nathan> d
[02:43] <Nekow42> lol, ok then
[02:43] <moonunit> is there a way to tell firefox to use the mplayer plugin as opposed to totem?
[02:44] <nathan> i highly recommend you print this out in colour: http://gigazine.net/img/2006/03/31/vi_vim_graphical_cheat_sheet/vi-vim-cheat-sheet.gif
[02:44] <mcherm> tuliomgui: I am *NOT* an expert... I'm here for help myself. But I once had success running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", then accepting the default options for everything OTHER than the list of resolutions. I make NO guarantees this will work for anyone else.
[02:44] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: shouldn't there also be a line about iface eth0 inet dhcp like auto eth0?
[02:44] <Nekow42> tuliomgui: You want to edit your x config file, which I suck at doing
[02:45] <kbrosnan> moonunit, you would need to remove the totem plugins
[02:45] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: you don't want it to auto dhcp that as well. it will just hang for a while before continuing if it's not connected
[02:45] <moonunit> kbrosnan, i did, but firefox still trys to use totem
[02:45] <mwe> aqau_inter_fly: if you ever need it just type ifup eth0
[02:45] <moonunit> so i removed totem all toghter, but it still tries for it
[02:45] <kbrosnan> moonunit, type about:plugins in the address bar
[02:46] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: okay
[02:46] <tuliomgui> is there any other way?
[02:46] <AndyCooll> moonunit: have you installed the mplayer plugin?
[02:46] <tuliomgui> i have insalled the driver but it doesnt allow me to do upgrade
[02:46] <moonunit> AndyCooll, yes
[02:46] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: want me to post it again so you can check it?
[02:47] <Ropechoborra> How do i change the grub menu image??
[02:47] <moonunit> kbrosnan, there all yes
[02:47] <Xenguy> nathan: nice :-)
[02:47] <mwe> moonlite: you need to remove the symlink in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and/or ~/.mozilla/plugins
[02:47] <Nekow42> tuliomgui: Yes, but it is largely dependant on your video card make/model
[02:47] <kbrosnan> moonunit, are the totem plugins still listed?
[02:47] <nathan> Ropechoborra, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:47] <moonunit> yeah
[02:47] <mwe> moonlite: or ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins
[02:47] <Ropechoborra> nathan what do i do there?
[02:48] <moonunit> mwe, its moonunit
[02:48] <moonunit> :P
[02:48] <nathan> Ropechoborra, look around, and RTFM
[02:48] <z0r1> Is there a page with a list of wifi tools and other security related software for ubuntu?
[02:48] <mwe> moonunit: oh yes
[02:48] <mwe> damn nick completion :)
[02:48] <moonunit> kbrosnan, yes its still listed
[02:48] <Vilkacis> mwe: OK, I have run into a problem. I have created a user, and I am attempting to give that user all schema privledges for a certain schema. But when I hit 'apply changes', it says that it is a duplicate user.
[02:48] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: okasy, i guess not...  im going to reboot to see if this works
[02:49] <mwe> Vilkacis: what are you using to do this?
[02:49] <yahn> can anyone help me out with a pear installation?  It created the .so that I need and I have my extension_dir pointed to the directory that file is in, but its still not being loaded.  Does anyone know what else I need to do?
[02:49] <Vilkacis> mwe: The MySQL Administrator.
[02:49] <__mikem> nathan, if you don't know how to answer a question DON'T harass the newbies, and never say RTFM, we are better than that in here
[02:49] <moonunit> mwe, so what do you suggest i do?
[02:49] <mwe> Vilkacis: oh I'm not to familiar with that. I always use grant ...
[02:50] <nathan> __mikem, unless someone asks a specific question, how else can you answer it....
[02:50] <moonunit> im sure theres a really easy terminal command that tell firefox not to use totem
[02:50] <moonunit> but i sure dont know it
[02:50] <Vilkacis> mwe: I do not know what grant is..
[02:50] <kbrosnan> no there is not
[02:50] <mwe> moonunit: remove the symlinks if they are present
[02:50] <mcherm> Trying again. Looking for help with wireless networking. My card used to work, but has stopped. It works in windows, so it's not hardware. I've tried everything I know (which isn't much) and I'm looking for suggestions of what to try next.
[02:50] <__mikem> He asked how to modify the boot splash screen, how much more specific do you want
[02:50] <moonunit> mwe, how?
[02:50] <mwe> Vilkacis: it's a mysql statement
[02:50] <nathan> __mikem, blah, ok
[02:50] <moonunit> mwe, if you can, #moonunit
[02:51] <piwi> hi there
[02:51] <viator> if your card used to work
[02:51] <Nekow42> Is it a font issue?
[02:51] <viator> did you upgrade the kernel
[02:51] <mwe> Vilkacis: if you login to mysql as root you can grant all privileges on foo.* to bar. however the gui should be able to do the same
[02:51] <kbrosnan> moonunit, type about:config in the address bar find plugin.expose_full_path and set it to true and go back to about:plugins
[02:51] <Broadcast> Hey
[02:51] <piwi> Look I was browsing youtube for videos when I had one running and opened another one in a tab in forefox. then the sound just ceased functionning. either on youtube or when playing a mp3 in kaffeine... whats going on?
[02:52] <mcherm> viator: I do not believe so. But I may have changed a config setting... I connected to someone else's network. I'm not sure what I changed (if anything).
[02:52] <Broadcast> Hey, i need help
[02:52] <Broadcast> serious help
[02:52] <kbrosnan> moonunit, it will give you the full path to the directory that the plugin is stored, be sure to re-set plugin.expose_full_path to false as it is a mild security risk
[02:52] <nathan> picket, maybe want to try a sound daemon, such as esd
[02:52] <piwi> Broadcast: just go for it baby
[02:52] <viator> the  latest update upgraded the kernel
[02:52] <viator> which may be the reason as well
[02:52] <nathan> piwi, maybe want to try a sound daemon, such as esd
[02:52] <mwe> gotta reboot, brb
[02:52] <Nekow42> piwi: That happens if a program tries to use alsa or oss at the same time as using the gnome sound server
[02:53] <shawarma> I'm trying to install a new system with debootstrap (only ssh access to the box)... I used to do the debootstrap and the base-config and that pretty much took care of everything. Now that base-config is empty in Dapper is there a similar way to do it?
[02:53] <piwi> nathan: could you give me more details?
[02:53] <viator> try when you boot choosing the old kernel from the list
[02:53] <piwi> Nekow42: what shall I do then?
[02:53] <Broadcast> ok, gaim crashes, cant install wine
[02:53] <khoda> Hi everyone. I'm having a problem. I put in the desktop cd and it gets to the orange logo with UBUNTU on it and a maroon background and it just stops. I think it's a gfx driver problem. Anyone know what I can do ? (first timer)
[02:53] <Broadcast> dont know how to install any package
[02:53] <Broadcast> wine gives me that
[02:53] <Broadcast> wine:
[02:53] <Broadcast>   Depends: libartsc0 (>=1.5.2-0) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:53] <Broadcast>   Depends: libasound2 (>1.0.10) but 1.0.9-2 is to be installed
[02:53] <Broadcast>   Depends: libgcc1 (>=1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[02:53] <Broadcast>   Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>=2.10.0) but 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:53] <nathan> piwi, flash support in linux sucks its a complete pain, hopefully someone has an aswer for this :)
[02:53] <Broadcast>   Depends: libstdc++6 (>=4.0.2-4) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[02:53] <Broadcast>   Depends: libxml2 (>=2.6.24) but 2.6.21-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:53] <piwi> Broadcast: gaim is crap. go to add/remove programs in applications and install kopete
[02:53] <Broadcast> and gaim just crashes as soon as i sign in
[02:53] <Broadcast> kopete
[02:53] <mcherm> viator: hmm... I don't have multiple kernel versions showing when I boot. I do have multiple copies of the SAME version showing (and I've never been sure why).
[02:53] <Nekow42> piwi: Are you getting no sound at all?
[02:53] <Broadcast> got it
[02:54] <piwi> Nekow42: no sound at all since then
[02:54] <__mikem> !paste
[02:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:54] <MenZa> !paste > Broadcast
[02:54] <MenZa> Damn you __mikem
[02:54] <nathan> Broadcast, apt name, like a multicast packet.. pastebin !paste
[02:54] <Broadcast> sorry :$
[02:54] <Nekow42> piwi: try "killall esd" and restart firefox
[02:54] <khoda> Hi everyone. I'm having a problem. I put in the desktop cd and it gets to the orange logo with UBUNTU on it and a maroon background and it just stops. I think it's a gfx driver problem. Anyone know what I can do ? (first timer). btw the logo looks really sketchy (bad gfx) and i never get to the desktop. it just hangs
[02:54] <piwi> Nekow42: esd is the sound daemon?
[02:55] <Nekow42> piwi: Yeah, it'll restart itself if it's needed again
[02:55] <__mikem> hehe beat you to it MenZa
[02:55] <nathan> piwi, if you run something like 'lsof |grep dsp' you will see what is locking the sound card
[02:55] <viator> when you say it wont work is it that  it wont connect
[02:55] <Nekow42> piwi: Also, if you're running KDE programs, you might want to stop them from using artsd
[02:55] <viator> is the harware seen by the system atleast
[02:56] <mcherm> viator: correct. If you know of particular tests to perform, I can certainly do that. For example: how would I know if "the hardware is seen by the system"?
[02:56] <dan> #lycitus
[02:56] <Nekow42> piwi: do a killall artsd while your at it
[02:56] <piwi> Nekow42: yeah im using quite a few kde progs... how do i prevent them from using artsd?
[02:56] <nathan> piwi, 'lsof |grep snd' sorry
[02:56] <Rikkimaru> I can't get any sound out of my laptop.  Could someone help me?
[02:56] <viator> do lspci crom the cli
[02:56] <viator> or
[02:56] <Nekow42> piwi: Just set them not to, it's different for every program
[02:57] <piwi> nathan: mixer_app 4907       piwi   35u      CHR      116,0                8400 /dev/snd/controlC0
[02:57] <piwi> Nekow42: okay, will that prevent them from playing any sound?
[02:57] <nathan> piwi, ok that won't lock it....
[02:57] <Nekow42> piwi: If there is a esd output plugin for any of them, switch to that
[02:57] <viator> or look under system >administration> networking
[02:57] <khoda> Hi everyone. I'm having a problem. I put in the desktop cd and it gets to the orange logo with UBUNTU on it and a maroon background and it just stops. I think it's a gfx driver problem. Anyone know what I can do ? (first timer). btw the logo looks really sketchy (bad gfx) and i never get to the desktop. it just hangs
[02:57] <piwi> nathan: but i already killed esd and artsd that might be why
[02:58] <piwi> Nekow42: ok thanks for the advice
[02:58] <Nekow42> piwi: If not, use the alsa or oss output
[02:58] <eduardo> hi
[02:58] <eduardo> Hey who are all u ppl
[02:58] <viator> from the gui
[02:58] <mcherm> Viator: Going with the GUI option for now, it shows my ethernet connection (which I'm using now) my wireless connection (not active, since I deactivated it to go online) and modem connection (not active 'cause I don't use it).
[02:58] <eduardo> are u real ppl
[02:58] <Rikkimaru> I can't get any sound out of my laptop.  Could someone help me?
[02:58] <nathan> piwi, did you restart firefox? pkill -9 firefox
[02:58] <eduardo> yes
[02:58] <mcherm> eduardo: yes.
[02:58] <Rikkimaru> nd
[02:58] <eduardo> i can
[02:59] <piwi> Nekow42, nathan: still nothing
[02:59] <piwi> nathan: ijust closed it and reopened it, its not enough?
[02:59] <nathan> piwi, something must still be using the device
[02:59] <jjohn> hello all
[03:00] <Nekow42> piwi: Do a killall on firefox too
[03:00] <eduardo> hello
[03:00] <jjohn> any one help me with vlc please
[03:00] <mcherm> viator: if I go to "properties" it correctly shows the ESSID... not sure how much that means.
[03:00] <nathan> Nekow42, sendning KILL will do that anyway :)
[03:00] <telliott> I have a question about networking.
[03:01] <piwi> Nekow42: firefox: no process killed
[03:01] <nathan> telliott, shoot
[03:01] <Broadcast> Hey, how do i mount ntfs on ubuntu
[03:01] <piwi> nathan: the question is what is using the device
[03:01] <Nekow42> piwi: killall firefox-bin too
[03:01] <viator> mine did too when it didnt work
[03:01] <eduardo> hello
[03:01] <gemidjy> where do I find the ISO with the codecs and stuff that is as additional CD for Dapper Drake?
[03:01] <nathan> piwi, did lsod only show mixer_pp
[03:01] <piwi> Nekow42: no process killed
[03:01] <mcherm> viator: hang on... maybe it's NOT the right ESSID. Let me check.
[03:01] <Broadcast> ?
[03:01] <Nekow42> piwi: if flash gets interrupted, it refuses to wirk until the program it's embedded in is totally dead
[03:01] <viator> i had to change wlan0 to eth1
[03:01] <Nekow42> *work
[03:02] <Broadcast> Hey, how do i mount ntfs on ubuntu?
[03:02] <eduardo> are all of u ubuntu users?
[03:02] <piwi> nathan: mixer_app 4907       piwi   35u      CHR      116,0                8400 /dev/snd/controlC0
[03:02] <piwi> Nekow42: :( sucks
[03:02] <piwi> Nekow42: I am quite sure firefox is dead
[03:02] <Rikkimaru> I can't get any sound out of my laptop.  Could someone help me?
[03:02] <nathan> piwi, hmmm you're making me think, damn you
[03:02] <Nekow42> eduardo: THis is the ubuntu channel
[03:02] <eduardo> o
[03:03] <telliott> My Ubuntu installation seems to be working fine.  I can access my Windows network with no trouble but on Windows XP, I can't figure out how to see my shared (fat32) on the Ubuntu machine.
[03:03] <mcherm> viator: wow... that was easy!
[03:03] <Nekow42> piwi: Then what is not getting sound?
[03:03] <eduardo> im not sure about all of this
[03:03] <piwi> eduardo: nope im using win xp pro :D
[03:03] <viator> lol
[03:03] <eduardo> really
[03:03] <viator> it was the essid
[03:03] <eduardo> kool
[03:03] <nathan> telliott, is it shared as a windows share or on a local hard drive
[03:03] <aqau_inter_fly> broadcast: i'm pretty sure taht you can't mount ntfs in ubuntu, you may have to convert your windows to FAT32
[03:03] <aqau_inter_fly> broadcast: but i'm not 100% sure
[03:03] <Cynical> I seem to be having a problem getting my intel drivers installed
[03:03] <piwi> Nekow42: kaffeine doesnt make any sound when trying a mp3, firefox on youtube is also mute
[03:03] <eduardo> piwi
[03:03] <mcherm> viator: I spent 3 hours on this yesterday, and somehow failed to realize that the essid was misspelled (it's almost the same at my house and my parent's).
[03:04] <nathan> Broadcast, NTFS can be mounted as readonly due to microshaft patents
[03:04] <aqau_inter_fly> mwe: are you still there?
[03:04] <Sgeo> !flash
[03:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:04] <piwi> Broadcast: you can mount ntfs
[03:04] <viator> usually not somthing so simple
[03:04] <Broadcast> Damn, do i have to format :(
[03:04] <telliott> I think so.  It shows up under mshome on the ubuntu system
[03:04] <Broadcast> how?
[03:04] <viator> yheres a package
[03:04] <piwi> !ntfs > Broadcast
[03:04] <viator> that makes it easy
[03:04] <viator> to switch \
[03:04] <Broadcast> whats that
[03:04] <Nekow42> piwi: Which output plugin is Amarok using?
[03:04] <viator> between aps
[03:04] <mcherm> viator: Thanks for your help... look me up if you ever have a Python language question: "mcherm" on any python forum or list.
[03:04] <Broadcast> !ntfs?
[03:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ntfs? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:04] <eduardo> aaaaaaa
[03:04] <eduardo> aaaaaaaaa
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <viator> and hotspots
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <LoRez> Warning: `eduardo' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <piwi> Nekow42: i used kaffeine
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <jjohn> broadcast  ntfs shows on my machine as "hda1"
[03:04] <Cynical> lol
[03:04] <Nekow42> piwi: try some other programs... "play" a wav file....
[03:04] <eduardo> a
[03:04] <Sgeo> When will Flash player 8 be abailable?
[03:04] <nathan> eduardo, back in your pram
[03:05] <Nekow42> piwi: Try some non KDE programs....
[03:05] <aqau_inter_fly> Broadcast: you can use any partitioning tool to convert it
[03:05] <gemidjy> where do I find the ISO with the codecs and stuff that is as additional CD for Dapper Drake?
[03:05] <Nekow42> Sgeo: They're skipping along to 9, no 8 for linux
[03:05] <Cynical> so then guys, anyone know how to install a tar.gz file with gcc 4.0 installed?
[03:05] <Sgeo> When will 9 be available?
[03:05] <Jp2`> ok this a really noobish, but I can't get a user list on the left side of my screen to stay in xchat
[03:05] <Broadcast> i dont have to format?
[03:05] <raskolnikov> is there a way i can partition the swap memory after installation
[03:05] <aqau_inter_fly> did anyone see when MWE left
[03:06] <raskolnikov> i dont think i put enough when i partitioned the first time
[03:06] <nathan> Cynical, usual method is... tar zxvf blah.tar.gz ; ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[03:06] <narfmaster> !seen MWE
[03:06] <ubotu> I last saw mwe (n=mwe@port462.ds1-ynoe.adsl.cybercity.dk) 13m 25s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[03:06] <Nekow42> raskolnikov: If you need more swap, and don't want to mess around, add a swapfile somewhere
[03:06] <Cynical> I have tried that
[03:06] <Cynical> lemme try again
[03:06] <raskolnikov> how exactly Nekow42 ?
[03:06] <Jp2`> does anyone have an idea what could be doing this or a simple thing i have to do to fix it
[03:06] <piwi> Nekow42: xmms says 'couldnt open audio'
[03:06] <phaedrus44> anyone can tell me how to restart name server?  i am using BIND9
[03:06] <raskolnikov> i'm new at ubuntu
[03:06] <aqau_inter_fly> Darn...I really need her help
[03:06] <nathan> Cynical, if it gives an error type !paste in here then paste it in there
[03:07] <Broadcast> !paste Hey
[03:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about paste Hey - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:07] <eXCeSS> !tell piwi about restrictedformats
[03:07] <Broadcast> whats that
[03:07] <Cynical> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[03:07] <eduardo> are all of u using ubuntu
[03:07] <nathan> cycom, tar probably made a directory.....
[03:07] <piwi> eXCeSS: ??
[03:07] <Cynical> tar did
[03:07] <Cynical> Im in it
[03:07] <MenZa> ...mwe is Danish?
[03:07] <eduardo> wow how did u guys get ubuntu
[03:07] <MenZa> wtf.
[03:07] <MenZa> >.<
[03:07] <Cynical> did ./configure and got that
[03:07] <Nekow42> raskolnikov: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/custom-guide/s1-swap-adding.html
[03:08] <nathan> Cynical, it may not have a configure
[03:08] <jjohn> DVD is not playing in VLC anyone help with this please
[03:08] <eduardo> who has an ocarina???
[03:08] <Nekow42> raskolnikov: Go down to where it says about a swap file
[03:08] <Cynical> make gives the same error
[03:08] <telliott> I am a long time Windows and Dos user but some parts of Ubuntu have me confused.
[03:08] <aro-ron> evening all
[03:08] <eduardo> hi
[03:08] <Sgeo> How do I get Flash player 9?
[03:08] <Nekow42> telliott: Can you narrow it down a bit more?
[03:08] <aro-ron> I got a hardware question that has been bugging me, any of you feel up to it?
[03:08] <Nekow42> Sgeo: Step 1 is wait for Adobe to release it
[03:08] <abonilla> HI, anyone knows if there is a way to use Rythmbox or any app to download the songs from the Ipod to the PC?
[03:09] <Sgeo> grr
[03:09] <aqau_inter_fly> Sgeo: you should be able to get it from adobe website
[03:09] <abonilla> with the ID3 ;-)
[03:09] <aqau_inter_fly> Sgeo: if they released it for linux yet
[03:09] <Nekow42> abonilla: you want gtkpod
[03:09] <Cynical> the file is designed for suse... there are no others
[03:09] <aro-ron> I have a 1600 series compa presario laptop I want to put Ubuntu on, well Xubuntu anyways... but it seems the fan has stopped working
[03:09] <piwi> Nekow42: any ideas? I just dont want to reboot because I will never know what caused this bug
[03:09] <abonilla> Nekow42: does that also downloads the songs? Doesn't that only uploads them to the IPOD?
[03:10] <aro-ron> I saw on the fourums taht some people with compaqs had BIOS issues that caused the fan to stop working
[03:10] <Cynical> but suse is based on linux so it *should* still work without YAST
[03:10] <Nekow42> abonilla: It breaks the filename, but you can use it to cope them from the iPod with tags
[03:10] <nathan> abonilla, ipodder is your friend
[03:10] <piwi> aro-ron: my laptop has no fan at all inside and is fine for ubuntu xp pro and games
[03:10] <aro-ron> but the fant wont work in windows either right now
[03:10] <dash> can anybody suggest a winamp-esque media player that isn't xmms?
[03:10] <abonilla> nathan: thanks
[03:10] <gean> HELP PLEASE : How can i tell the mashine (after failed Ubuntu upgrade to 6.06 from 5.10) to properly redetect the (inter)net ?! i have just a console... (no x)! And the ubuntu-6.06-alter distribution
[03:10] <piwi> dash: kaffeine
[03:10] <Cynical> dash xmms
[03:10] <nathan> abonilla, ignore me, that was wrong  :)
[03:10] <aro-ron> piwi, this lappy has a AMD k6, it runs HOT
[03:10] <Cynical> oh wait
[03:10] <Cynical> lol
[03:10] <kansuu5345> Anyone got, DWL-G122 A1 work on Ubuntu Linux?
[03:10] <telliott> What do I need to do in Windows XP to see my shared drive?
[03:10] <Nekow42> piwi: What caused it is easy. artsd warring with esd, plus flash acting retarded
[03:10] <dash> Cynical :: nice one
[03:10] <piwi> aro-ron: sorry :(
[03:10] <abonilla> nathan: why?
[03:10] <aro-ron> piwi, sok
[03:11] <stuart> hay
[03:11] <Cynical> nothing wrong with xmms is there?
[03:11] <piwi> Nekow42: so ther is nothing i can du but reboot?
[03:11] <abonilla> nathan: wrong cause I can copy the mp3?
[03:11] <aro-ron> I just didnt know if it COULD possibly be the BIOS screwing with me, or what
[03:11] <aro-ron> I have a new fan on the way anyways
[03:11] <Nekow42> piwi: try log out/log in first
[03:11] <Cynical> my sound will never sork on this so I can't use these things anyway
[03:11] <nathan> abonilla, maybe try installing 'ipod' but im an iriver user so maybe not
[03:11] <dash> Cynical :: I just don't like it much
[03:11] <dash> perhaps it doesn't fit in with gnome well or something, but most of the menus etc are poorly made IMO
[03:11] <piwi> Nekow42: brb
[03:11] <Nekow42> piwi: Then if that fails, ctrl-alt-bksp
[03:12] <abonilla> I installed Ubuntu with Flight5, I'm only able to boot on the HD if I boot with the CD and then tell it to boot on the first HD. Any ideas?
[03:12] <Cynical> any other ideas nathan?
[03:12] <Nekow42> piwi: then full reboot
[03:12] <helpmemysql> i need some help with phpmyadmin, im me if you can help pls
[03:12] <stuart> can some one tell me  where i can download  stuff for ubuntu linux  im  new to this os
[03:12] <nathan> Cynical, type !paste then paste the output of 'ls -l' into the url
[03:12] <abonilla> stuart: System, Administration, Synaptic Package Manager
[03:13] <Nekow42> helpmemysql: tried #phpmyadmin ?
[03:13] <telliott> I find cool things to install uner Add/remove programs
[03:13] <helpmemysql> no thx
[03:13] <telliott> under
[03:13] <Cynical> !paste
[03:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:14] <mejobloggs> hi guys, anyone know if MS Virtual PC - Virtual Machine Additions can be isntalled under Ubuntu?
[03:14] <Cynical> nathan its there under my nick
[03:14] <viator> try wlist wlan0 scan
[03:14] <viator> iwlist*
[03:14] <piwi> Nekow42: works now
[03:15] <something_else> people, I have always been able to use http://localhost/~user however I noticed today that today, this returns a 403 Forbidden error
[03:15] <Nekow42> piwi: gooood!
[03:15] <reccan> How can I make a gmail web-browser window popup instead of evolution when I press a mailto: link?
[03:15] <piwi> Nekow42: yeah but its annoying, also video and sound are not synchronised while browsing youtube
[03:15] <nathan> Cynical, have you read the README in there? 'less README'
[03:15] <something_else> now changing permissions doesnt seem to make a difference
[03:16] <Cynical> yes
[03:16] <Nekow42> piwi: Never had that issue, but rest assured, it's flash being a little... unintelligent
[03:16] <nathan> Cynical, no clues?
[03:16] <Cynical> it tells me how to untar
[03:16] <Cynical> then tells me to use YAST
[03:16] <Cynical> nothing more
[03:17] <nathan> Cynical, im not familar with the contents of that directory im affraid
[03:17] <nathan> Cynical, 'less BUILD' ?
[03:17] <Cynical> there isn't a specific debian/ubuntu pkg for this driver
[03:18] <viator> to get gmail to popup you need a script
[03:18] <viator> or maybe theres an extension?
[03:18] <nathan> viator, apt-get install gmail-notify
[03:19] <reccan> Don't think so... but in Windows Gmail Notifier can set up the settings for you so you come to gmail when you press a link
[03:19] <piwi> Nekow42: well ok I guess there is nothing to do but wait for improvements
[03:19] <Nekow42> piwi: Bug adobe, lol
[03:19] <Cynical> omg
[03:19] <Cynical> I feel stupid
[03:19] <Cynical> it says how to build it
[03:19] <nathan> Cynical, never a good feeling :)
[03:20] <Cynical> too bad it also asks for an archaic version of xserver
[03:21] <thetruth> how can I create a encrypted filsystem and hard drive?
[03:21] <thetruth> anyone know?
[03:22] <Kyral> ArchLinux's Wiki has a nice tutorial
[03:22] <userundefine> There are several HOWTOs on the forums
[03:22] <userundefine> for encryption, thetruth
[03:22] <reccan> Think I got the gmail problem, as you suspected, there is a gmail plugin
[03:22] <nathan> Kyral, encfs does the trick
[03:22] <wheels3572> !Gwget > Wheels3572
[03:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about Gwget  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:22] <reccan> .... or not
[03:23] <thetruth> userundefine: forums?
[03:23] <narfmaster> !info gwget
[03:23] <ubotu> gwget: GNOME front-end for wget. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.96-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 189 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[03:23] <thetruth> userundefine: what forums?
[03:23] <userundefine> thetruth, ubuntuforums.org
[03:23] <l33t> my Ubuntu Update Manager is not finding any updates, what is wrong?
[03:23] <[Nige] > hi all
[03:23] <thetruth> userundefine: cheers big ears! :)
[03:23] <l33t> this is the third straight day that there has no been no updates
[03:23] <wheels3572> narfmaster: How do I go about getting that?
[03:23] <userundefine> thetruth, how'd you know? :\
[03:24] <narfmaster> wheels3572, first you enable universe, then apt-get it
[03:24] <Nekow42> l33t: At least they're not delayed a month, until tuesday
[03:24] <wheels3572> It is enabled lol
[03:24] <wheels3572> I believe
[03:24] <l33t> Nekow42: so why am I not getting updates?
[03:24] <Nekow42> l33t: There haven't been any lately
[03:24] <l33t> nekow42: how often are there any updates?
[03:25] <Nekow42> l33t: Whenever they're needed
[03:25] <[Nige] > hi all, I want to set up a pxe boot menu, any ideas on how to do this?
[03:25] <holycow> there are no updates for ubuntu
[03:25] <holycow> only security patches
[03:25] <thetruth> userundefine: :)
[03:25] <thetruth> userundefine: lucky guess ;)
[03:25] <l33t> Update Manager is supposed to find updates for any packages you have installed, correct?
[03:25] <holycow> if there are no security patches ... that is exactly what you want
[03:25] <holycow> patches mean vulnerabilities
[03:25] <something_else> why does this occur? chcon: can't apply partial context to unlabeled file
[03:25] <Nekow42> l33t: If today they found zero-day GTK vulnrability, tomorrow you'd se an update
[03:26] <l33t> Update Manager is supposed to find updates for any packages you have installed, correct?
[03:26] <nathan> [Nige] , tftpd and the boot files required, dhcp aswel ofcourse
[03:26] <Flav> there are updates!  when the next version ships :)
[03:26] <Nekow42> l33t: If all the packages you have installed are the newest, then it finds nothing
[03:26] <gean> HELP PLEASE : the ubuntu-6.06 alternate cd has a rescue facility, that immediately detects the net in my faculty. However, after upgrade i've lost the (inter)net on my old Ubuntu 5.10. What command can i start to REDETECT the net (DHCP) ?!
[03:26] <l33t> I know, but I would think there would be some updates for some of them atleast
[03:26] <[Nige] > nathan, I have installed tftpd-hpa and i am pretty sure I have dhcp
[03:26] <spades> gean sudo dhclient eth0 or device
[03:26] <[Nige] > nathan, there doesnt seem to be much doco out there on it :(
[03:26] <Nekow42> l33t: How long has it been since you last ran update manager?
[03:27] <Nekow42> l33t: and got an update?
[03:27] <l33t> Nekow42: about 2 minutes ago
[03:27] <l33t> oops
[03:27] <nathan> [Nige] , have you specificed everything required in dhcp including the boot file
[03:27] <l33t> Nekow42: I haven't got any update in over 3 days
[03:27] <[Nige] > nope, I have found much to do with the dhcp though..
[03:27] <[Nige] > I might go set that up first :)
[03:27] <holycow> l33t, shutup already
[03:27] <l33t> no
[03:27] <Flav> does dapper have any kind of "automatically fetch and install security updates" support (even if it's just a commented-out crontab entry for root to update && upgrade)
[03:27] <holycow> jesus, there are no updates, just security patches
[03:27] <nathan> [Nige] , you need to specify 'filename' and 'next-server'
[03:28] <holycow> no security patches is a good thing
[03:28] <l33t> shut up holy cow
[03:28] <Nekow42> l33t: lol, well, you probably don't NEED any updates then...
[03:28] <z0r1> Anyone have a good make Ubuntu look like Mac OS X guide?
[03:28] <shiv> what is the ipconfig equivalent in linux?
[03:28] <l33t> I am talking about updates for my packages as well, not just security
[03:28] <spades> ifconfig
[03:28] <shiv> thanks
[03:28] <Nekow42> shiv: ifconfig
[03:28] <Flav> shiv: /sbin/ifconfig
[03:28] <eugman> Is there a way to convert mpg to gif?
[03:28] <holycow> there are no package updates l33t
[03:28] <holycow> none
[03:28] <Samineru> question, often when my computer starts to get hot it autoshuts off can i set it to give me a warning and like a 30 second delay beforehand
[03:28] <l33t> why?
[03:28] <holycow> once ubuntu goes stable there are NO UPDATES until next release
[03:28] <holycow> because that is the way its done
[03:28] <Nekow42> l33t: Yes, the updates and security updates are done the same way
[03:28] <shiv> thanks all
[03:29] <Flav> eugman: i'd guess that convert from imagemagick could do that
[03:29] <l33t> Nekow42: so I am surprised there are no updates in days
[03:29] <nathan> [Nige] , something like pxe-inst/pxelinux.0 for filename which is relitive to your tftp root directory
[03:29] <jjohn> can any one help with dvd playbavk in VLC please??
[03:29] <l33t> Nekow42: in Fedora Core they had updates nearly every single day
[03:29] <mjr> eugman, at least you can dump the mpg into separate images with something like mplayer and then gather the images into a gif animation
[03:29] <eugman> Flav, Oh so imagick can handle image files and movie files?
[03:29] <redcard> l33t: So?
[03:29] <[Nige] > nathan, pardon?
[03:29] <Nekow42> l33t: l33t Fedora Core is a 5 disk distro...
[03:29] <holycow> l33t, then go use fedore
[03:30] <gean> spades : u're GREAT ! Thanks, i can maybe finally reinstall the broken x system from the net ! That's my rescue for the small world of my laptop ! Thanks !
[03:30] <l33t> Nekow42: I use a DVD, so it's 1 for me
[03:30] <jonass> when booting kernel 2.6.15-26 (updated with autoupdate) my xgz/ compiz desktop is not working. but booting -23 it is
[03:30] <nathan> [Nige] , in ./etc/dhcps.conf you must specify the filename of the boot image
[03:30] <Flav> eugman: images definitely - the mpeg i'm not as sure about - might have to use ffmpeg or something else (maybe try apt-cache search mpeg)
[03:30] <Nekow42> l33t: Okay, a 4.7 GB distro, where as ubuntu fits in 800MB
[03:30] <eugman> mjr, Would that be very time consuming? What I'd like to do it make a gif from a part of my screen but I only know for sure that I can make a mpg from it.
[03:30] <[Nige] > nathan, what if I want say 2 options, eg memtest or say stress linux?
[03:31] <l33t> Nekow42: Fedora Core is not even close to being 4.7GB
[03:31] <dash> are there any mass music taggers that do write in ID3v2.4 ?
[03:31] <redcard> l33t: I don't percisely get your point.
[03:31] <l33t> Nekow42: I believe it's like 3000-3500MB
[03:31] <holycow> fedora is not a real distro
[03:31] <nathan> [Nige] , you create a menu
[03:31] <holycow> fedora is testing ground for redhat
[03:31] <holycow> fedora NEVER GOES STABLE
[03:31] <l33t> lol
[03:31] <mjr> eugman, probably not. A bit of a bother though.
[03:31] <holycow> its under permanent beta
[03:31] <holycow> fedora will never be ready for production
[03:31] <l33t> holycow: get real
[03:31] <[Nige] > nathan, any links on how to do that?
[03:31] <holycow> l33t, if you are happy with a beta release use fedora
[03:31] <Nekow42> l33t: lol, 3500 MB, I'm not going to check the Fedora iso size just to make an example...
[03:31] <eugman> mjr, Do you know if there is a way to take screenshots of a limited portion of my screen?
[03:31] <something_else> people, how do I disable SELinux?
[03:32] <redcard> I don't percisely get why having a daily update is a good thing
[03:32] <holycow> we preffer to stabilize all packages every 6 months and only release security updates
[03:32] <l33t> Nekow42: fedora core is not over 3GB
[03:32] <holycow> its a far more predictable development model
[03:32] <holycow> l33t, but you can bitch an dmoan as much as you want
[03:32] <mrcoyote> HI all
[03:32] <holycow> you will still never get any updates but security udpates
[03:32] <l33t> holycow: shut the hell up
[03:32] <holycow> so you can take your whiny ass back to #redhat
[03:33] <l33t> shut the hell up
[03:33] <Nekow42> l33t: You just said it was, and it doesn't matter...
[03:33] <l33t> 3000MB is not 3GB
[03:33] <eugman> l33t, holycow. This is not the most efficient way to demonstarte you maturity
[03:33] <redcard> Actually.. it's cose
[03:33] <l33t> a true GB is 1024MB
[03:33] <redcard> close
[03:33] <l33t> so
[03:33] <imme-emosol> Can anyopne tell me where the conf file for the System > Administration > Login Screen Setup is placed on ubuntu 6.06 ?
[03:33] <Nekow42> l33t: And this is relevant, how?
[03:33] <holycow> someone want to kick l33t?
[03:33] <l33t> 3GB is 3072MB
[03:33] <redcard> l33t: I still would like to know what your point is?
[03:34] <l33t> someone said FC was 4.7GB
[03:34] <l33t> and it's not
[03:34] <redcard> What's the name of this channel, l33t?
[03:34] <nathan> create the menu as /tftpboot/pxe-inst/pxelinux.cfg/default you will need to find the format of the file
[03:34] <[Nige] > ahh okay
[03:34] <[Nige] > pxelinux.cfg
[03:34] <[Nige] > gotcha :)
[03:34] <Nekow42> l33t: That is the max size of a DVD, stop freaking out about my lack of time on my hands to go measure exact ISO sizes...
[03:34] <[Nige] > cheers i be back later once i hvae setup dhcp
[03:35] <l33t> Nekow42: I dont care, get your facts straight
[03:35] <Nekow42> l33t: I generalized, and I'm sorry if it offended u
[03:35] <Commander-Crowe> whats a good program to build my own GUI? C++ thats on KDE?
[03:35] <holycow> someone just kick him
[03:35] <dash> how do you list currently running processes?
[03:35] <nathan> [Nige] , 'label' 'kernel' 'append' are the directives
[03:35] <jjohn> will anyone help me with VLC please?
[03:35] <l33t> dash: go to System Monitor
[03:35] <reccan> *Actually* 3000MB=3GB, 3072MiB=3GiB
[03:35] <holycow> he's just a troll
[03:35] <l33t> holycow: shut the hell up
[03:35] <Nekow42> l33t: So, do you have a question, or all theu all answered?
[03:35] <holycow> lol
[03:35] <holycow> :)
[03:35] <skavenge> dash: ps aux
[03:35] <holycow> bite me
[03:35] <l33t> ass
[03:35] <Flav> reccan: i was wondering if someone would go all mibbi (or however it's spelled)
[03:36] <Commander-Crowe> ijohn: just say what it is
[03:36] <Nekow42> killall -9 l33t
[03:36] <Commander-Crowe> ijohn: don't ask
[03:36] <l33t> rm -rf /
[03:36] <Flav> i'd like to teach the world to sing^W/ignore - in perfect harmony
[03:36] <something_else> people, I have always been able to use http://localhost/~user however I noticed today this returns a 403 Forbidden error. I dont know why. Ive googled, and apparantly its something to do with SELinux, and that using chcon corrects the problem. However, I am unable to use chcon, as it states "can't apply partial context to unlabeled file"
[03:36] <l33t> rm -rf /home/holycow/
[03:36] <imme-emosol> Can anyopne tell me where the conf file for the System > Administration > Login Screen Setup is placed on ubuntu 6.06, please? :P
[03:36] <l33t> rm -rf /home/holycow
[03:36] <holycow> heh, not only a retard, a noob
[03:36] <holycow> nice
[03:36] <l33t> I am not a n00b
[03:37] <l33t> idiot
[03:37] <p47> I can't listen someting while I play all the macromedia flash. why ? can you help me
[03:37] <Commander-Crowe> imme-emosol: google it
[03:37] <reccan> l33t, you better read up on binary prefixes; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
[03:37] <l33t> rm -rf /
[03:37] <eugman> l33t and holycow stop your proverbial slapfight.
[03:37] <jjohn> Dvd is reading as a txt file causing the player to constantantly loop but no visual outcome I did all the plugin and updates
[03:37] <Nekow42> p47: Because flash is very old, it can only use alsa or oss
[03:37] <eugman> It's accomplishing nothing.
[03:37] <bernat> buenas noches
[03:37] <imme-emosol> Commander-Crowe: ff won't start.
[03:37] <l33t> eugman: he's an idiot
[03:37] <bernat> a tod@s
[03:37] <swarm> how do i clear my search history in the googlebar in firefox?
[03:37] <imme-emosol> Commander-Crowe: firefox that is
[03:37] <Commander-Crowe> !google
[03:37] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[03:37] <mjr> Nekow42, "only use oss, not alsa"
[03:37] <eugman> l33t and you demonstrate this by acting like one as well?
[03:38] <l33t> eugman: I aint an idiot
[03:38] <Nekow42> p47: Everything else on ubuntu routes sound through esd
[03:38] <bernat> ubuntu en spanish
[03:38] <bernat> ??
[03:38] <eugman> l33t, I believe that but at the very least you are being childish. Let it go.
[03:38] <skavenge> !es
[03:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:38] <p47> Nekow42,  I have alsa, I can listen music but I can not listen the flash on the browser
[03:38] <nathan> l33t, your nickname suggests nothing :)
[03:38] <bernat> ok
[03:38] <l33t> I am l33t, n00bs beware!
[03:38] <bernat> tenk you
[03:38] <Commander-Crowe> ijohn: sudo apt-get install VLC libdvdcss2
[03:38] <l33t> lol
[03:38] <Nekow42> p47: ESD is what enables you to listen to multiple things at the same time
[03:38] <swarm> :) @ l33t
[03:39] <l33t> I am teh uber pwnz
[03:39] <spydr> hmm any know why I don't get any sounds out of gnomeradio? looks it tunes into the stations alright... am i missing something? :P
[03:39] <swarm> if j00 r t3h 1337nes, how do i clear my googlebar history?
[03:39] <Nekow42> p47: If any program accesses the sound card directly without using esd (like flash), it puts esd on hold
[03:39] <p47> Nekow42, I don't understand you, what should I do ?
[03:39] <Commander-Crowe> imme-emosol: download Mozilla then through synaptic
[03:39] <jjohn> Commander-crowe thank you
[03:39] <swarm> don't want the g/f to know i've been lookin @ pr0nz
[03:39] <imme-emosol> Commander-Crowe: On a live-cd?
[03:39] <l33t> CTRL + H to show histroy
[03:39] <Commander-Crowe> ijohn: no prob
[03:39] <Nekow42> p47: There is nothing you can do
[03:39] <l33t> history
[03:39] <l33t> then delete the folders
[03:40] <Commander-Crowe> imme-emosol: oh
[03:40] <HappyHobo> Hi folks
[03:40] <swarm> is it history?
[03:40] <imme-emosol> Commander-Crowe: I'll try to kill the firefox process and restart it...   Thanks anyway.
[03:40] <swarm> i thought it was seperate
[03:40] <nathan> swarm, adduser thebitch
[03:40] <l33t> history is the webpages you go to
[03:40] <p47> no, cam't lilsten forexample the flash plicated on youtube.com
[03:40] <reccan> ooh... l33t is skilled in deleting his pr0n history :P *phun intended*
[03:40] <Commander-Crowe> imme-emosol: ok
[03:40] <l33t> I am l33t, n00bies
[03:40] <swarm> it IS seperate
[03:40] <l33t> I pwn n00bs
[03:40] <valehru> Can EasyTag edit wma files tags?
[03:40] <Flav> is there any route to getting debugging symbols installed for bits for security updates or do i have to recompile them debug myself?  Reading symbols from /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
[03:41] <HappyHobo> pwn this
[03:41] <Nekow42> p47: If esd is using the sound card, non esd enabled programs can't use it...
[03:41] <l33t> lol
[03:41] <Nekow42> p47: I'll make a diagram, if you want
[03:41] <jjohn> commander_crowe Error cant find VLC etc
[03:41] <HappyHobo> I've never had to deal with a sudo install and I'm not wild about it.  What's the easy way to get a traditional 3 partition install home/root/swap
[03:42] <p47> Nekow42,  Yes, I want "thanks a lot"
[03:42] <l33t> I didnt say I am l33t in ubuntu
[03:42] <Madpilot> HappyHobo, you can do a partitioned install & still keep sudo - my Ubuntu install is dual partition, root & home
[03:42] <p47> Nekow42, I hope you can understandme because my english is very poor !
[03:42] <lotwoo1> Anyone willing to help me set up dual monitors?
[03:42] <HappyHobo> I already have a home partition that I want to preserve Madpilot
[03:43] <p47> Nekow42, but, first, What is ESD ?
[03:43] <Madpilot> HappyHobo, the installer can use an existing partition table
[03:43] <dash> are there any mass music taggers that do write in ID3v2.4 ?
[03:43] <Flav> Enlightenment Sound Daemon
[03:43] <HappyHobo> stupid freespire put root/home/etc on a 5 gig partition
[03:43] <Nekow42> p47: esd is a sound daemon for gnome. It allows multiple programs to use the sound card at the same time
[03:43] <Commander-Crowe> I automatrix
[03:43] <p47> haaa
[03:43] <Commander-Crowe> ! automatrix
[03:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about automatrix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:44] <noiesmo> I got a laptop everytime I reboot it it wants root password for maintenance or Control-D but control-D does not work how can i stop it wanting to do this when ever I reboot
[03:44] <Commander-Crowe> !google Automatrix
[03:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about google Automatrix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:44] <p47> Nekow42,  haaaaaaa ok I understand !
[03:44] <Madpilot> Commander-Crowe, you mean automatix? It's a very bad idea, should never have been released..
[03:44] <Commander-Crowe> oh
[03:44] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[03:44] <userundefine> Madpilot, why do you say that ?
[03:44] <Flav> noiesmo: how are you rebooting?  generally you only get that when you have a filesystem problem (at least in my experience)
[03:44] <holycow> userundefine, because it bypasses the packaging system
[03:44] <piwi> Nekow42: sound is down again :'(
[03:44] <nathan> dash, apt-cache search is your friend.. 'apt-cache search id3 |grep tag' would probably find a few packaggs
[03:45] <Madpilot> userundefine, it's badly coded, and it's broken all sorts of systems
[03:45] <noiesmo> Flav, via gdm
[03:45] <Flav> Madpilot: why's that?
[03:45] <holycow> userundefine, and because the original author is a dip
[03:45] <userundefine> holycow, yeah I agree there.
[03:45] <Commander-Crowe> it there anyway to take a program off linux and put it on another?
[03:45] <holycow> you can use easyubuntu which doesn't bypass the package management system instead
[03:45] <Madpilot> holycow, "dip" is being far kinder than the guy deserves ;)
[03:45] <Commander-Crowe> like I want to get VLC off one ubuntu and put in on another
[03:45] <holycow> Commander-Crowe, well on linux its just copy and paste
[03:45] <Commander-Crowe> argh
[03:46] <Commander-Crowe> but when I did it with apt-get theres no file
[03:46] <noiesmo> Flav, when I boot single user mode and try running fsck it complains about mounted system
[03:46] <holycow> Commander-Crowe, the problem is that you need to know where the files are put on which distro so you can copy/paste/install/whatever on another system
[03:46] <phaedrus44> can someone give me an exanmple of a .pid file?
[03:46] <holycow> Commander-Crowe, why? just install it again
[03:46] <Commander-Crowe> I can't
[03:46] <holycow> why?
[03:46] <Commander-Crowe> no internet on that computer
[03:46] <phaedrus44> i am trying to installa named.pid  for bind9
[03:46] <Flav> noiesmo: can you remount / read-only and then try the fsck?
[03:46] <Flav> noiesmo: mount -o remount,ro /
[03:46] <holycow> Commander-Crowe, burn a cd or usb disk the packages over
[03:46] <p47> Nekow42, now I understand, but I don't know what should I do...
[03:46] <l33t> WTF
[03:46] <gean> holycow, spades : THANKS ! Things seem to work... [Again: I'm just reporting the progress: (recall that Ubuntu upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06) : with many obstructions, trial and error the right way to recover was: (1) get the ubuntu-6.06-alt.. install cd (2) apt-cdrom with it to recover some broken packages (3) dhclient eth0 to get the net back (4) # apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade : and went through the x-config menu (only through the net i
[03:46] <gean> got the many xserver-xorg* drivers, and the correct ones were installed !)]  Thanks again for the help !
[03:46] <noiesmo> Flav, will try
[03:47] <holycow> Commander-Crowe, you can download the .deb from wherever
[03:47] <Commander-Crowe> yeah
[03:47] <holycow> gean, i knew you could make it through :)
[03:47] <Commander-Crowe> but then you'd have to download the dependacys too
[03:47] <Commander-Crowe> which is about 90
[03:47] <Commander-Crowe> when I counted
[03:47] <jjohn> commander-crowe   I just get an error msg with that script you gave me
[03:47] <profoX`> sup guys
[03:47] <l33t> wtf
[03:47] <holycow> Commander-Crowe, you would haveto copy the dependencies over too and link them manually as well
[03:48] <Commander-Crowe> ijohn: try sudo apt-chache search DeCSS
[03:48] <noiesmo> Flav, k mounted ro
[03:48] <holycow> Commander-Crowe, this is the reality of software development with shared libraries ... pros / cons and all that :/
[03:48] <noiesmo> Flav, then ran fsck
[03:48] <nathan> [Nige]   are you winning?
[03:48] <Commander-Crowe> ijohn: see what happens
[03:48] <itsnotbarrett> whiois itsnotbarrett
[03:48] <holycow> gean, i'm glad to hear its working btw.
[03:48] <profoX`> jjohn: are you looking for a way to play (css encrypted) dvd's ?
[03:48] <jjohn> Commander-crowe OK
[03:48] <Nekow42> p47: I just finished my sucky diagram
[03:48] <l33t> WTF
[03:48] <Commander-Crowe> ijohn: what came up?
[03:49] <p47> Nekow42, lol ! ok
[03:49] <Nekow42> p47: http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledqh4.jpg
[03:49] <p47> I'll see !
[03:49] <profoX`> jjohn: are you looking for a way to play (css encrypted) dvd's ?
[03:49] <l33t> get Easy Ubuntu
[03:50] <profoX`> l33t: easy ubuntu is evil.. it can mess up your system quite ..easy
[03:50] <Commander-Crowe> profox: yes
[03:50] <Nekow42> p47: All you can do is, not use ESD programs while using flash
[03:50] <[Nige] > nathan, not yet
[03:50] <l33t> profoX: how?
[03:50] <Commander-Crowe> profoX: yes
[03:50] <profoX`> l33t: because it's a lame script
[03:50] <p47> Nekow42, ohhhhhhh... ok I understand...
[03:50] <l33t> profoX: BS
[03:50] <[Nige] > i am will come back when I have got somewhere with dhcpd :)
[03:50] <HappyHobo> Can Ubuntu preserve home?
[03:50] <l33t> I used it on my system just fine
[03:50] <l33t> it pwns
[03:50] <nathan> [Nige] ,  :)
[03:50] <noiesmo> Flav, thanks
[03:50] <Nekow42> p47: And, maybe send an email to Adobe asking for esd output support in the next flash ;)
[03:50] <[Nige] > nathan, thanks though :)
[03:51] <Flav> noiesmo: so, fsck fixed some errors, and now everything seems happy?
[03:51] <Commander-Crowe> hey when I installed UBuntu I made three partitions
[03:51] <profoX`> l33t: well good for you.. you're probably going to run into problems anyway because your sources.list might be weirdified
[03:51] <Commander-Crowe> SWAP
[03:51] <swarm> ... so... can i get some help with this firefox googlebar search history issue?
[03:51] <nathan> [Nige] , ubuntu have an image for pxe boots
[03:51] <Commander-Crowe>  / and /home
[03:51] <Sgeo> In https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave which lines are broken and which have a real nextline?
[03:51] <profoX`> l33t: i've had alot of guys complaining about their systems acting strange after using easy ubuntu
[03:51] <l33t> profoX: Easy Ubuntu claims it doesnt have to modify the sources.list file
[03:51] <[Nige] > nathan, thats pretty intresting I might go find that too
[03:51] <noiesmo> Flav, well ran fsck it didnt seem to fix errors just rebooted now going to reboot see if it wants maintenance again one sec
[03:51] <p47> Nekow42, I will do, also I can see that somebody has problems with the new version of flash ...
[03:52] <nathan> [Nige] , depends what you're using it for ?
[03:52] <profoX`> l33t: oh really? then they changed something recently, because they did change the sources.list back when i tried it out
[03:52] <noiesmo> Flav, no same thing
[03:52] <l33t> profoX: go check it out
[03:52] <profoX`> l33t: maybe some other time, i have no need for it
[03:52] <l33t> profoX: it doesnt have to change that file
[03:52] <Flav> does it say why it's doing maintenance mode?
[03:52] <noiesmo> Flav, hmm might just not reboot i'll just shutdown instead
[03:52] <p47> Nekow42, thank's a lot !
[03:52] <Nekow42> profoX`: I used Automatix, and it keeps your old sources
[03:52] <Nekow42> p47: anytime...
[03:52] <noiesmo> Flav, no
[03:52] <andrewski> !automatix
[03:52] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:52] <profoX`> Nekow42: automatix is known to be even worse
[03:53] <l33t> Easy Ubuntu pwns
[03:53] <cs378> Can somene help me set my screen to widescreen resolution
[03:53] <cs378> please
[03:53] <noiesmo> Flav, all i get on screen is * init Switching to runlevel 6 then sending term then the control-d bit
[03:53] <Madpilot> Eclipse_GSX, could you kill the away message spam, please?
[03:53] <l33t> the latest stable version of Easy Ubuntu works just fine, awesome
[03:53] <profoX`> l33t: i haven't run into problems with easyubuntu myself, but some users have on the dutch forums (ubuntu-nl.org) and automatix seems to be even worse
[03:53] <andrewski> does anyone know how to check the DMA on one's hard drive?
[03:54] <l33t> profoX: n00bs probably
[03:54] <[Nige] > nathan, at the moment just to have a play with it and to learn more
[03:54] <[Nige] > thats about about it :)
[03:54] <profoX`> andrewski: sudo hdparm /dev/hda
[03:54] <profoX`> (if it's the drive on master IDE0)
[03:54] <Commander-Crowe> ijohn: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[03:54] <andrewski> thanks profoX`
[03:54] <noiesmo> Flav, and if i hit control-d it just repeats give root password bit again and again I have to give password then type reboot and it reboots
[03:54] <The_Cajun_Pagina> hello
[03:54] <Commander-Crowe> ijohn: and sudo apt-get install libdvdread3-dev
[03:55] <profoX`> Commander-Crowe: he is gone, he needs libdvdcss2 too
[03:55] <Commander-Crowe> ijohn: that should do it
[03:55] <Flav> noiesmo: that's odd - switching to runlevel 6 means it's trying to reboot the machine - sending term means sending term(inate) signals to processes.  The control-d thing sounds like it's going to single-user mode instead of rebooting though
[03:55] <nathan> [Nige] , on the right road, honestly though google + pxe + tftp + linux should really help
[03:55] <Flav> noiesmo: i wonder if your /etc/inittab is messed up
[03:55] <Commander-Crowe> argh
[03:55] <noiesmo> Flav, hang on i'll have a look at it
[03:55] <[Nige] > okay, i had a bit of a look last night but i think its becuase i was tired, i think I missed alot
[03:55] <The_Cajun_Pagina> how do make webpage?
[03:56] <Tommy2k4> running 'make' completely froze kubuntu :(
[03:56] <Flav> noiesmo: try grep 6 /etc/inittab and see what matches (hopefully something like /etc/init.d/rc 6)
[03:56] <profoX`> Tommy2k4: running make, where?
[03:56] <andrewski> profoX`: do you know anything about PIO mode?  and i can't grok the output; doesn't mention DMA there.
[03:56] <profoX`> andrewski: what is PIO mode?
[03:56] <The_Cajun_Pagina> does anyone know how to make webpage? thanks.
[03:56] <Commander-Crowe> lol
[03:56] <Commander-Crowe> I can
[03:56] <noiesmo> flav brb
[03:56] <The_Cajun_Pagina> can show me how, I wish are.
[03:57] <thetruth> http://beam.to/eternaljoy <-- Updated and Improved Christian website!  I would appreciate any genuine feedback please.
[03:57] <profoX`> andrewski: that command (hdparm /dev/hda) should say wether you are using dma or not like this: using_dma    =  1 (on)
[03:57] <andrewski> profoX`: exactly.  apparently, my problems with bittorrent (high CPU usage) might result from my disc being loaded in PIO mode rather than DMA, so determining one way or the other would be great. :)
[03:57] <Flav> noiesmo: also, check the contents of /etc/rc6.d - there should be lots of symlinks in there, lots of K* ones and then a few S* ones, including one named S90reboot or something similar
[03:57] <andrewski> profoX`: no, only IO_support, readonly, readahead, and geometry.
[03:57] <Radmin> Anyone know how I can get 1280x1024 to show up in resolution options?
[03:57] <profoX`> andrewski: that's strange, is hda your hard drive ?
[03:58] <The_Cajun_Pagina> how to make web page?
[03:58] <sethk> Radmin, if it doesn't, then it probably hasn't auto-detected your monitor
[03:58] <andrewski> profoX`: sda... hrm, i just checked the partition (sda4)... wait for it....
[03:58] <sethk> Radmin, if your video card has it, but it isn't shown, then it doesn't know your monitor type
[03:58] <Radmin> how do I get it to detect it?
[03:58] <andrewski> profoX`: ...no, the whole drive says the same thing.
[03:58] <profoX`> The_Cajun_Pagina: please refer to a (X)HTML tutorial, making webpages has nothing to do with ubuntu, unless you are looking for programs that help you create webpages
[03:58] <nathan> [Nige] , basically... /tftpboot/pxe-inst/pxelinux.cfg/default will be the default image list (not MAC specific) and pxeboot.msg contains the text for the menu itself
[03:58] <Tommy2k4> profoX`, in the folder that i just successfully ran ./configure
[03:58] <sethk> Radmin, set it for "generic monitor doing 1280x1024 70Hz"  (or whatever the correct vertical freq is)
[03:58] <noiesmo> Flav, that was it stuffed inittab
[03:58] <Tommy2k4> its for kbfx
[03:59] <[Nige] > nathan, cheers thanks for that
[03:59] <The_Cajun_Pagina> what program make webpages?
[03:59] <[Nige] > I shall remember that :)
[03:59] <Radmin> I've edited my xorg.conf file as such but gnome options won't reflect it.
[03:59] <profoX`> The_Cajun_Pagina: no idea, Quanta is used alot for it, but i just make sites in vim
[03:59] <The_Cajun_Pagina> vim?
[03:59] <The_Cajun_Pagina> I dont understand
[03:59] <sethk> Radmin, editing xorg.conf doesn't necessarily do what you want
[03:59] <Commander-Crowe> The_Cajun_Pagina: FrontPAge
[04:00] <profoX`> The_Cajun_Pagina: (g)vim is an advanced text editor that cando about everything, but you shouldn't use it to begin
[04:00] <Commander-Crowe> openoffice
[04:00] <sethk> Radmin, even if you put that entry it, X (and thus gnome) will ignore it if it doesn't match up with the video card and/or monitor configuration
[04:00] <profoX`> Commander-Crowe: is frontpage for linux now?
[04:00] <Radmin> Any ideas?
[04:00] <The_Cajun_Pagina> not makes sense my english is bad
[04:00] <noiesmo> Flav, followed a guide to speed up ubuntu nad it did suggest comment out some tty but looks like in my drunken state when i did it i commented out l6 instead sorry bloody user error not system
[04:00] <sethk> Radmin, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <Commander-Crowe> profoX: if you use it with WINE....lol
[04:00] <Commander-Crowe> profoX: I got it to work
[04:00] <nathan> Commander-Crowe, the server side extensions yes
[04:00] <sethk> Radmin, see what modes it offers
[04:01] <profoX`> Commander-Crowe: lol, frontpage sucks anyway :P
[04:01] <The_Cajun_Pagina> i want to make webpage very bad
[04:01] <Commander-Crowe> profoX: yes it does
[04:01] <noiesmo> Flav, no more drinks when tweak system for mew
[04:01] <sethk> Radmin, that will tell you whether or not, at the X level, it thinks it can do 1280x1024
[04:01] <sethk> The_Cajun_Pagina, you can make very bad web pages with any editor.
[04:01] <profoX`> The_Cajun_Pagina: maybe try quanta..? or search the net for webpage editors for linux
[04:01] <Flav> noiesmo: don't drink and admin! :)
[04:01] <profoX`> lol sethk
[04:01] <andrewski> profoX`: any more ideas?  i'm rather stumped.
[04:01] <ardchoille> Which log is written to when a cronjob doesn't run?
[04:01] <ardchoille> I"m sure the syntax in the cronjob is correct, but it isn't running for some reason
[04:01] <nathan> The_Cajun_Pagina, nvu is very nice
[04:01] <andrewski> The_Cajun_Pagina: bluefish or screem are two i know of.
[04:01] <noiesmo> Flav, yes never again
[04:01] <profoX`> andrewski: well it's strange that you don't have the dma option, is it SATA? because its sda?
[04:02] <nathan> The_Cajun_Pagina, bluefish too :)
[04:02] <The_Cajun_Pagina> this is upsetting;  i dont understand what you are saying to me.
[04:02] <Led_Zepp1lin> I am having trouble with the current install of Ubuntu server on my laptop. Do I need to get the server distro?
[04:02] <andrewski> profoX`: dunno. :-/
[04:02] <nathan> The_Cajun_Pagina, 'sudo apt-get install bluefish nvu'
[04:02] <andrewski> The_Cajun_Pagina: what are you asking?
[04:02] <holycow> Led_Zepp1lin, no, desktop and server are identical
[04:02] <sethk> ardchoille, usually syslog
[04:02] <The_Cajun_Pagina> i have bad translation tool
[04:02] <holycow> Led_Zepp1lin, server just doesn't install 'desktop' related packages
[04:02] <Flav> ardchoille: i typically get an email sent to root.  also, you can try to just copy-paste the line and run it (leave off the first 5 fields, and ideally restrict your env, especially path, to match)
[04:02] <sethk> ardchoille, which is /var/log/syslog
[04:02] <Led_Zepp1lin> holycow: how do I configure X? is ther ean autoconfig tool?
[04:02] <andrewski> The_Cajun_Pagina: what language?
[04:02] <Led_Zepp1lin> holycow: i have discovery 1 installed.
[04:02] <ardchoille> sethk: Thank you :)
[04:03] <holycow> Led_Zepp1lin, there is no need to configure  really, what are you trying to accomplish?
[04:03] <Commander-Crowe> Led_Zepp1lin: servers don't run well on lappies
[04:03] <Led_Zepp1lin> holycow: its not finding my laptop's hw right
[04:03] <ardchoille> Flav: Yeah, the line runs in a term just fine, which is why I wanna see a log.
[04:03] <profoX`> andrewski: paste what you get when running "sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda" in www.pastebin.ca - thanks
[04:03] <nathan> Commander-Crowe, wanna bet ;)
[04:03] <holycow> Led_Zepp1lin, get the latest cd and search the forums for your laptops support
[04:03] <Commander-Crowe> nathan: no
[04:03] <Led_Zepp1lin> holycow: install Ubuntu on my laptop. simple as that :-) its a amd64 chip btw
[04:03] <The_Cajun_Pagina> can someone show how to make web page pleasE? I would be very happy to nice for you.
[04:03] <holycow> Led_Zepp1lin, there is a page with listed known working laptops see if your is there
[04:03] <nathan> The_Cajun_Pagina, 'sudo apt-get install bluefish nvu' (second time)
[04:04] <imme-emosol> So I can't get firefox to work...
[04:04] <Led_Zepp1lin> holycow: got the right CD I should use?
[04:04] <Commander-Crowe> Led_Zepp1lin: use i386 even though its amd64
[04:04] <holycow> Led_Zepp1lin, well if you installed server then no x is installed
[04:04] <profoX`> yes nvu is rather nice for beginners
[04:04] <Commander-Crowe> Led_Zepp1lin: works better
[04:04] <Flav> ardchoille: like sethk said, syslog has it - for example, here's an entry from when run-parts gets run on my system: Jul 21 21:17:01 sublogic /USR/SBIN/CRON[30818] : (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[04:04] <andrewski> The_Cajun_Pagina: join your local channel; find your language here: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local
[04:04] <The_Cajun_Pagina> nathan i do not understand those words
[04:04] <holycow> Led_Zepp1lin, you can either install x manually with apt get or get the desktop cd and let that take care of it for  you
[04:04] <profoX`> andrewski: good idea :P
[04:04] <Commander-Crowe> Led_Zepp1lin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:04] <holycow> no don't do that
[04:05] <nathan> The_Cajun_Pagina, it is the command you run from a terminal without the '
[04:05] <holycow> lol kde
[04:05] <holycow> bah!
[04:05] <holycow> :)
[04:05] <The_Cajun_Pagina> i dont understand
[04:05] <Commander-Crowe> holycow: why?
[04:05] <Led_Zepp1lin> holycow: okay!
[04:05] <holycow> sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[04:05] <holycow> :)
[04:05] <Led_Zepp1lin> holycow: brb, lemme boot into ubuntu
[04:05] <holycow> Commander-Crowe, i'm kidden
[04:05] <andrewski> The_Cajun_Pagina: click: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local
[04:05] <Commander-Crowe> holycow: oh ok
[04:05] <imme-emosol> Nobody who knows where the login screen setup files are?
[04:05] <ardchoille> Flav: Yeah, according to syslog, it ran. Must be a syntax error in the shell script
[04:06] <The_Cajun_Pagina> what is in click?  all I see is pages of greek
[04:06] <Flav> ardchoille: willing to paste it here or pastebin?
[04:06] <profoX`> omfg
[04:06] <imme-emosol> So, gdm config files or something like that I guess.
[04:06] <Commander-Crowe> imme-emosol: firefox didn't work?
[04:06] <Commander-Crowe> imme-emosol: no ones gonna answer you
[04:06] <imme-emosol> Commander-Crowe: nope. :(
[04:06] <andrewski> The_Cajun_Pagina: i think i'm done.
[04:06] <profoX`> andrewski: try: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda ?
[04:06] <imme-emosol> Commander-Crowe: why not?
[04:07] <imme-emosol> Commander-Crowe: They don't know?
[04:07] <Commander-Crowe> imme-emosol: no one knows where they are except google
[04:07] <imme-emosol> Commander-Crowe: Hmmm ok.
[04:07] <andrewski> profoX`: that printed out the same four lines. :(  (pasting)
[04:07] <johnccc> anyone here have experience with hamachi?
[04:07] <imme-emosol> shit zooi...
[04:07] <Flav> what's the ubuntu version of security.debian.org? (tracks advisories along with package updates)
[04:07] <profoX`> imme-emosol: you mean gdm ? /etc/gdm/gdm.conf /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom and in that /etc/gdm directory
[04:07] <The_Cajun_Pagina> So does ubunto support network functions, like BPS server installs, and AMP?
[04:08] <imme-emosol> profoX`: I'll look there.
[04:08] <profoX`> imme-emosol: what do you need?
[04:08] <Nitefall> blah, I can't get logging to work with xchat
[04:08] <andrewski> profoX`: http://pastebin.ca/95496
[04:08] <profoX`> andrewski: you tried the -d1?
[04:08] <ardchoille> Flav: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18561
[04:08] <andrewski> profoX`: http://pastebin.ca/95496 :)
[04:08] <Nitefall> I have it turned on but can't find a log dir anywhere
[04:08] <imme-emosol> profoX`: I need to change the login screen setup "config file" since I fucked it up... hehe... :(
[04:08] <Nitefall> and there's no option to specify the log dir
[04:08] <The_Cajun_Pagina> or does ubuntu come already set up as a server?
[04:09] <johnccc> how do I make ham0 my default gateway instead of wan0 using the terminal?
[04:09] <profoX`> andrewski: you have to do -i and -d1 before /dev/sda, not after
[04:09] <profoX`> options first, then device
[04:09] <Commander-Crowe> how do i use IRC in a terminal/
[04:09] <andrewski> !tell The_Cajun_Pagina about server
[04:09] <profoX`> Commander-Crowe: search google for irssi and weechat
[04:09] <andrewski> profoX`: whoops. 0:-)
[04:09] <profoX`> those are 2 irc clients for terminal
[04:09] <imme-emosol> Commander-Crowe: irssi
[04:09] <nathan> johnccc, specift the default gw with 'route add default gw 'ip'
[04:10] <The_Cajun_Pagina> whoa, whoa whoa, NO gui?
[04:10] <Flav> ardchoille: does that pop up a dialog window of some sort?  assuming it does, it knows where to based on your $DISPLAY variable, which isn't set when cron runs
[04:10] <The_Cajun_Pagina> is there a plugin for one?
[04:10] <imme-emosol> Commander-Crowe: irssi is defauklt I believe...
[04:10] <The_Cajun_Pagina> (that's supported)
[04:10] <imme-emosol> The_Cajun_Pagina: nope. :)
[04:10] <ardchoille> Flav: That must be it
[04:10] <andrewski> The_Cajun_Pagina: don't install a server then.
[04:10] <nathan> bitchx you know the score
[04:10] <The_Cajun_Pagina> dude, this is the day of the GUI
[04:10] <Commander-Crowe> ok thanks
[04:10] <heatxsink> hahaha
[04:10] <profoX`> The_Cajun_Pagina: don't be a troll ;)
[04:10] <Guest477> hello all, what is the most appropriate partion type for a secondary hd in linux, just for storage
[04:10] <andrewski> profoX`: no kidding...
[04:11] <holycow> The_Cajun_Pagina, command line is a form of gui infact
[04:11] <profoX`> Guest477: i would just use ext3, it's most used
[04:11] <Commander-Crowe> xfs lol
[04:11] <The_Cajun_Pagina> profox, you are being a troll by calling me a troll
[04:11] <ardchoille> Flav: Thank you :)
[04:11] <Commander-Crowe> what is xfs/jfs any wya?
[04:11] <heatxsink> hello alll i'm trying to install java from multiverse and it keeps croaking
[04:11] <johnccc> route add default gw '5.54.144.77'?
[04:11] <nathan> Guest477, ext3 xfs reiserfs ... your choice
[04:11] <GlassCasket> Anyone have screenshots of the alternative install?
[04:11] <Guest477> thank you profx  very helpful
[04:11] <profoX`> anyone have op capabilities ? O:-)
[04:11] <andrewski> GlassCasket: o'reilly's might.
[04:11] <nathan> johnccc, no quote marks
[04:11] <johnccc> ok
[04:11] <andrewski> profoX`: meh, not quite that bad yet. :-P
[04:11] <johnccc> thanks I'll try it
[04:12] <userundefine> Commander-Crowe, other filesystems
[04:12] <profoX`> Commander-Crowe: xfs and jfs are other filesystems, you can check google if you want to know the differences between it and ext3
[04:12] <Guest477> one other thing i almost forgot, is there a chance of getting this 2wire wireless USB jobby to work in ubuntu?
[04:12] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[04:12] <profoX`> Guest477: yw
[04:12] <Led_Zepp1lin> i need to first fi my VGA for my laptop
[04:12] <andrewski> Flav: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+security+notices&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[04:12] <Commander-Crowe> I use ext3
[04:12] <profoX`> Guest477: whats a usb jobby?
[04:12] <The_Cajun_Pagina> hey, which room do I go to discuss an improper ban?  I got banned from a channell and it was a mistake.
[04:12] <Guest477> 2wire wireless adapter :)
[04:12] <Guest477> model
[04:12] <profoX`> The_Cajun_Pagina: sure
[04:13] <nathan> The_Cajun_Pagina, mistake huh
[04:13] <GlassCasket> andrewski: They don't seem to have any, nor osdir.com and I searched Google.
[04:13] <nathan> bitchx rocks.. ill say again
[04:13] <Guest477> too long to matter
[04:13] <andrewski> GlassCasket: ok, sounds like you know more than i do. :-P
[04:13] <holycow> The_Cajun_Pagina, only chanel ops can do anything for you
[04:13] <The_Cajun_Pagina> hey, which room do I go to discuss an improper ban?  I got banned from a channell and it was a mistake.
[04:13] <andrewski> !repeat
[04:13] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:13] <The_Cajun_Pagina> how do i get ahold of one?
[04:13] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, not here... which channel booted you?
[04:13] <Guest477> gray witha fold up antenae
[04:13] <ardchoille> The_Cajun_Pagina: were you banned from this channel? Different nick?
[04:13] <Guest477> one antenna :(
[04:13] <Guest477> hehe
[04:13] <The_Cajun_Pagina> not this channel
[04:13] <The_Cajun_Pagina> ##php
[04:13] <holycow> The_Cajun_Pagina, you can't unless you know someone in the chan
[04:13] <Commander-Crowe> !argh
[04:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about argh - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:14] <GlassCasket> What's the difference between the alternate and the cd install?
[04:14] <Commander-Crowe> !r
[04:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about r - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:14] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, then complaining in this channel just wastes everyone's time
[04:14] <Commander-Crowe> !root
[04:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:14] <andrewski> profoX`: aha... HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[04:14] <The_Cajun_Pagina> so how do i resolve the issue?
[04:14] <ardchoille> The_Cajun_Pagina: You can find out the ops in that channel and try to discuss it with them in pm
[04:14] <andrewski> The_Cajun_Pagina: try #freenode.  see ya.
[04:14] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, try #freenode, a staffer might be able to help.
[04:14] <The_Cajun_Pagina> there's no one in charge?
[04:14] <nathan> The_Cajun_Pagina, pantience is a virtue
[04:14] <userundefine> GlassCasket, the alternate and the livecd, I suppose you mean ?  The alternate CD is for systems with lesser resources, i.e., >192MB
[04:14] <nathan> wasting my time, got whisky to drink
[04:14] <Commander-Crowe> !xfs
[04:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about xfs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:14] <andrewski> profoX`: sounds like it's not supported, eh?
[04:15] <Commander-Crowe> !ext3
[04:15] <profoX`> andrewski: thought so, seems like you have a SATA device there, and it seems like that can't be set to dma by default, let me read through the problem, this is the first time for me, i don't use sata
[04:15] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:15] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, #freenode - this channel can't help you...
[04:15] <kum> give it to me
[04:15] <The_Cajun_Pagina> Who is op in this room?
[04:15] <andrewski> profoX`: i can look up too; don't take the time. :-P
[04:15] <holycow> no one
[04:15] <GlassCasket> userundefine: Alright, but will it let me install what I want? Because I don't want the games and stuff I will never use.
[04:15] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, ops in this room won't be able to help with ##php
[04:15] <holycow> now stop talking about something no one cares about dude :)
[04:15] <holycow> c'mon
[04:15] <The_Cajun_Pagina> i didnt ask what ops can do, I asked who the op WAS
[04:15] <profoX`> andrewski: i was already searching, but hey, if you find something useful first, let me know.. (i am interested in this problem)
[04:15] <jeff12345> anyone know how setup a USB connection to a Phillips Stereo (FW-C777)???
[04:15] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, there are several ops present...
[04:15] <userundefine> GlassCasket, not that I know of.  The games are part of the DE packages for Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[04:16] <buzzcap325> Anybody know where I can get Windows.Source.Code.w2k.nt4.wxp.tar ?
[04:16] <The_Cajun_Pagina> hey, which room do I go to discuss an improper ban?  I got banned from a channell and it was a mistake.
[04:16] <nathan> jeff12345, that might be pushing your luck ;)
[04:16] <profoX`> The_Cajun_Pagina: no one here, not even an op, can help you for a ban in another channel!
[04:16] <crimsun> buzzcap325: not appropriate for this channel.
[04:16] <GlassCasket> userundefine: Oh ok, thanks. But I will be able to remove them afterwords, right?
[04:16] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, you've BEEN TOLD were to go!
[04:16] <The_Cajun_Pagina> who is op?
[04:16] <buzzcap325> crimsun, where do you suggest i go?
[04:16] <profoX`> buzzcap325: lol !
[04:16] <jeff12345> nathan....do you know something about it?  possibly tried it?
[04:16] <crimsun> buzzcap325: simply don't ask the question here. I don't care where you go.
[04:16] <buzzcap325> crimsun, its like a tavern, then
[04:16] <userundefine> The_Cajun_Pagina, if you don't want to discuss the ban of #php and #ubuntu, maybe you should do what people said. We can't help you
[04:16] <buzzcap325> lol
[04:17] <Led_Zepp1lin> how does one go and put optins in grub?
[04:17] <nathan> jeff12345, google is probably your best bet, there may be a driver written for it, but won't be by phillips
[04:17] <Led_Zepp1lin> such as vga=791
[04:17] <profoX`> Led_Zepp1lin: what kind of options..?
[04:17] <The_Cajun_Pagina> all im asking is who is op here
[04:17] <crimsun> Led_Zepp1lin: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:17] <profoX`> Led_Zepp1lin: oh.. you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:17] <Led_Zepp1lin> crimsun: is that all?
[04:17] <crimsun> The_Cajun_Pagina: what's the intent?
[04:17] <profoX`> Led_Zepp1lin: search for the "kernel ..." line
[04:17] <userundefine> The_Cajun_Pagina, there are no ops in here
[04:17] <Led_Zepp1lin> profoX`:  is that all?
[04:17] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, I've answered that too. Now, why does it matter?
[04:17] <The_Cajun_Pagina> the intent is to find out who the op is
[04:17] <crimsun> Led_Zepp1lin: no, you have to update-grub afterward.
[04:17] <profoX`> Led_Zepp1lin: and add it at the end of the line
[04:17] <Led_Zepp1lin> ok
let me ask a diff question, is there a resourse where i can find linux drivers for things like a flat panel display and a 2wire wireless adapter?
[04:17] <jeff12345> nathan, I checked...but haven't been able to find anything...do you happen to know where I can look or maybe even where it is? :-P
[04:17] <crimsun> The_Cajun_Pagina: and why is "who" so important?
[04:17] <profoX`> crimsun: you don't have to update-grub ?
[04:17] <The_Cajun_Pagina> mad you did not tell me who op was
[04:18] <GlassCasket> Because I have wireless, once I get Ubuntu installed. Will Ubuntu pick up my card right away?
[04:18] <crimsun> profoX`: scroll up.
[04:18] <nathan> jeff12345, probably out of luck :(
nothing on the web helpful so far for 2 wire, on the flatpanel now
[04:18] <The_Cajun_Pagina> crimon: because I want to know
[04:18] <userundefine> GlassCasket, not likely.  That's what I'm saying -- the games are ubuntu dependencies you can't uninstall.  There *might* be some similar posts on the forums about what you want, but I don't think it's possible
[04:18] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, I said, there are several present. Now, why does it matter?
[04:18] <Led_Zepp1lin> ok
[04:18] <Led_Zepp1lin> rellme rebot
[04:18] <profoX`> crimsun: i mean: you don't have to do that, i think
[04:18] <Led_Zepp1lin> lemme me reboot
[04:18] <holycow> Guest477, because linux generally doesn't work like windows
[04:18] <The_Cajun_Pagina> who is op?  I know there is op
[04:18] <holycow> Guest477, no on ereally offers drivers for linux because its expected they gpl them
[04:18] <crimsun> The_Cajun_Pagina: like Madpilot mentioned, there are quite a few present.
[04:18] <userundefine> GlassCasket, it depends on your chipset... what kind of card is it ?
[04:18] <jeff12345> nathan, thanks...I appreciate it
[04:18] <The_Cajun_Pagina> WHO?
[04:18] <profoX`> The_Cajun_Pagina: there are several op's but they are probably not here or sleeping..
[04:19] <andrewski> The_Cajun_Pagina: we don't know.
[04:19] <crimsun> profoX`: you do if the kopts are to propagate.
[04:19] <holycow> Guest477, what that results in is two groups of manufacturers, one group doesn't write drivers the other releases them as gpl
[04:19] <The_Cajun_Pagina> who is op, though?
[04:19] <Guest477> ok i understand, what chance of making the wireless function?
[04:19] <redcard> The_Cajun_Pagina: Do you see any @'s in here?
[04:19] <andrewski> !ignore The_Cajun_Pagina
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about ignore The_Cajun_Pagina - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:19] <The_Cajun_Pagina> can someone show how to make webpage?
[04:19] <holycow> Guest477, that means that gpl drivers automatically get included in most distros
[04:19] <Guest477> gotcha
[04:19] <profoX`> The_Cajun_Pagina: now, please, stop wasting our time, it doesn't matter who the op's are
[04:19] <GlassCasket> userundefine: I have a Linksys WMP54GS, which I know is supported by ndiswrapper I've tested it on Knoppix and Gentoo.
[04:19] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, try #html or #web for webpage help
[04:19] <imme-emosol> k, thnX profoX` I hope it will work. :D
[04:19] <The_Cajun_Pagina> I want to know who op is.
[04:19] <holycow> Guest477, thus, no driver search, its all built in, one therefore BUYS HARDWARE FOR THE OS, not searches endlessly for drivers that don't work :)
[04:19] <Guest477> search repos... have for 2wire got nothing, will check flatpanel
[04:19] <The_Cajun_Pagina> is silly not to know
[04:19] <imme-emosol> see you all back in a few minutes I hope. :D
[04:19] <Led_Zepp1lin> okay, I am havig issues with my laptop.
[04:20] <redcard> The_Cajun_Pagina: There is none
[04:20] <Led_Zepp1lin> the screen is really mucked up
[04:20] <profoX`> imme-emosol: what was the problem? i forgot lol
[04:20] <Guest477> no money there cow :)
[04:20] <noiesmo> Led_Zepp1lin, is that only when you boot
[04:20] <userundefine> GlassCasket, ah, alright.  I'm not sure how well supported that is in Ubuntu.  You can search the forums (which are currently down for the moment) for it and see what other people know about it
[04:20] <Guest477> can't buy jack
[04:20] <profoX`> andrewski: any luck ?
[04:20] <The_Cajun_Pagina> can someone show how to make web page pleasE? I would be very happy to nice for you.
[04:20] <imme-emosol> profoX`: The problem was that I screwed up the login screen
[04:20] <Guest477> ty for your input
[04:20] <andrewski> profoX`: not yet; i'm getting distracted by stuff here at home.  working on it. :)
[04:20] <profoX`> imme-emosol: oh right.. well.. i don't know what you changed?
[04:20] <Led_Zepp1lin> noiesmo: : I am in CLI mode
[04:20] <imme-emosol> profoX`: It asked me for a host I had to provide, and I didn't know any... So... :P
[04:21] <Led_Zepp1lin> noiesmo: I don't have X 11 yet
[04:21] <profoX`> andrewski: i think this channel is quite distracting.. ;P
[04:21] <Commander-Crowe> SAAALUMP
[04:21] <profoX`> i'm not used to such big channels
[04:21] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, #web or #html
[04:21] <noiesmo> Led_Zepp1lin, my laptop did that i removed quiet and splash from menu.1st
[04:21] <HellDragon> heh
[04:21] <andrewski> profoX`: yeah, that too. ^_^
[04:21] <HellDragon> Nitefall, !!
[04:21] <imme-emosol> profoX`: I commented some lines in gdm.conf-custom...
[04:21] <holycow> The_Cajun_Pagina, i don't think you were banned from #php by accident :)
[04:21] <profoX`> imme-emosol: well, good luck..... make sure you have a copy that you can put back when it fails :)
[04:21] <The_Cajun_Pagina> holycow: i don't think your mother breast-fed you.
[04:21] <holycow> The_Cajun_Pagina, www.google.com is actually the best resource for that
[04:21] <userundefine> holycow, I'm hoping if we ignore him he'll go away
[04:21] <andrewski> seriously, how does one ignore in IRC?
[04:21] <holycow> userundefine, ah my mistake
[04:21] <holycow> right
[04:21] <profoX`> andrewski: /ignore hostmask
[04:21] <Madpilot> andrewski, /ignore $NICK
[04:21] <imme-emosol> profoX`: hm. copies...
[04:22] <The_Cajun_Pagina> you have to right click on their name and select commands -> ignore
[04:22] <imme-emosol> brb
[04:22] <tvalladon> I have a 160 gig drive on hda1, I have formatted it as ext3, setup my fstab and as root I can modify files in it but as user I cant
[04:22] <andrewski> thanks The_Cajun_Pagina :-P
[04:22] <lib8264q> hello channel
[04:22] <andrewski> hi lib8264q
[04:22] <The_Cajun_Pagina> welcome andrewski
[04:22] <nathan> tvalladon, chmod ?
[04:22] <The_Cajun_Pagina> now
[04:22] <Led_Zepp1lin> man, my laptop and ubuntu are so screwed ;-
[04:22] <The_Cajun_Pagina> you show me how to make webpage i wish for me?
[04:22] <profoX`> The_Cajun_Pagina: thats because you are running mIRC The_Cajun_Pagina
[04:22] <Led_Zepp1lin> :-)
[04:23] <lib8264q> just wondering is there much difference yep between knot-1 and 6.06
[04:23] <andrewski> profoX`: lol
[04:23] <lib8264q> yet*
[04:23] <profoX`> lib8264q: yes, you should NOT use knot1
[04:23] <crimsun> lib8264q: yes, there are noticeable differences such as "perhaps my computer doesn't boot".
[04:23] <Madpilot> The_Cajun_Pagina, I've told you twice which channels you should try for HTML/webpage help. Now stop being off-topic, or you'll be removed from this channel too
[04:23] <tvalladon> no use.. its mounted to /media/storage and if I am in /media and type #chmod 777 storage the user still cant edit it
[04:23] <lib8264q> lol
[04:23] <profoX`> lib8264q: unless you want to test it on a seperate computer or hunt for bugs.. it is not stable at all
[04:23] <The_Cajun_Pagina> can someone show how to make web page pleasE? I would be very happy to nice for you.
[04:23] <lib8264q> cool
[04:23] <l33t> yeah
[04:23] <l33t> learn HTML
[04:23] <l33t> and PHP
[04:23] <GlassCasket> And is it possible for me to compile my own kernel?
[04:23] <crimsun> GlassCasket: certainly.
[04:24] <tvalladon> nathan: no use.. its mounted to /media/storage and if I am in /media and type #chmod 777 storage the user still cant edit it
[04:24] <userundefine> GlassCasket, yes
[04:24] <Led_Zepp1lin> noiesmo:  i actually don't have that line
[04:24] <profoX`> Madpilot: thanks, you're my hero.
[04:24] <Led_Zepp1lin> noe is there a program to do autodetch?
[04:24] <andrewski> Madpilot: whoa man, that was harsh!  ... ... :-P
[04:24] <tvalladon> nathan: even with sudo
[04:24] <Guest477> well i was going to ask what knot is but i dont see the point now lol
[04:24] <Led_Zepp1lin> I want to autodetect all of my hardware agai!
[04:24] <userundefine> thanks Madpilot
[04:24] <Guest477> thanks all
[04:24] <Led_Zepp1lin> *again!
[04:24] <Madpilot> andrewski, no, it was not. He had plenty of warnings.
[04:24] <Guest477> have a great nite!
[04:24] <GlassCasket> Sweet: I'm assuming I'd have to do it after the install, right?
[04:24] <profoX`> Madpilot was right to ban him.. he was obviously a troll
[04:24] <holycow> andrewski, not at all, humanity never ceases to dissappoint
[04:25] <andrewski> holycow, Madpilot: sorry, that was irony.  i was right with you.
[04:25] <tvalladon> nevyn: here is the line from my fstab file: /dev/hda1       /media/storage  ext3            auto,user,exec,rw,sync          0       0
[04:25] <test> can someone tell me if there is any advantage to putting directories in seperate partitions or is it just an organizing thing?
[04:25] <noiesmo> is there a way to stop quiet and splash being added to menu.1st kernel options as me laptop doesnt like it I get lines on the screen untill gdm kicks in
[04:25] <tvalladon> grrr.. sry, wrong person
[04:25] <holycow> andrewski, ah!
[04:25] <Madpilot> andrewski, ah, I missed the :P you stuck on the end :)
[04:25] <tvalladon> nathan: here is the line from my fstab file: /dev/hda1       /media/storage  ext3            auto,user,exec,rw,sync          0       0
[04:25] <userundefine> GlassCasket, yes
[04:25] <noiesmo> just installed new kernel and grubs added it back in
[04:25] <andrewski> test: /home makes a good backup for upgrading, that's really the only important one in my opinion.
[04:25] <profoX`> test: putting /home on a separate partition might save you headaches when you have to reinstall the system
[04:25] <profoX`> andrewski: great minds think alike..
[04:25] <GlassCasket> userundefine: OK, thanks.
[04:25] <fishy> will Flash 9 for Linux make Flash any faster on Linux?
[04:26] <andrewski> fishy: will flash 9 be released on linux?
[04:26] <profoX`> fishy: we *hope* so, but it will only be released in 2007
[04:26] <userundefine> fishy, if it ever appears.
[04:26] <tvalladon> fishy: where you find flash9 for linux????
[04:26] <holycow> fishy, i have no faith in adobe
[04:26] <nathan> tvalladon, try 'defaults' as the option part instead of auto,user,exec,rw,sync or even find a proper mount point seen as its ext3... such as /home/user/spare
[04:26] <profoX`> andrewski: somewhere 2007 according to the developer's blog (penguin.swf)
[04:26] <Madpilot> tvalladon, there is no Flash 8 or 9 for Linux
[04:26] <lib8264q> can someone explain to me how i can tell at terminal propmt weather a wifi card is active or how to activate it
[04:26] <profoX`> tvalladon: wine + firefox/flash works, but native flash9 for linux doesn't exist yet
[04:26] <tvalladon> Madpilot: damn, he got my hopes all up
[04:26] <andrewski> lib8264q: iwconfig
[04:26] <lish> then what tool  we can use to make flash file in LInux?
[04:27] <profoX`> lish: what do you mean
[04:27] <lib8264q> ty ....
[04:27] <andrewski> lish: is there one?  is it even worth it?
[04:27] <tvalladon> nathan: I tried default already
[04:27] <test> andrewski: thank you and profox for your replies. how would the make it easier? The new install would read those directories thereby saving a few steps?
[04:27] <andrewski> test: it would not touch /home, where all your personal files are (or should be) stored.
[04:27] <imme-emosol> Thanks again profoX`, it worked... :D
[04:27] <iron> epale
[04:27] <GlassCasket> Does Ubuntu come with dhcpcd or pump? So I can automatically fetch my IP>
[04:27] <userundefine> test, your settings for programs would be saved.
[04:27] <profoX`> test: no, when you have done something terrible to your system by accident, you can reinstall the system, and keep your /home intact
[04:28] <andrewski> test: that way, you can just wipe your / partition and reinstall any OS of your choosing. :)
[04:28] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Thank you :)
[04:28] <Eagle3> GlassCasket: it comes with dhcpcd
[04:28] <profoX`> imme-emosol: :) good
[04:28] <ardchoille> Madpilot: PM?
[04:28] <iron> hello
[04:28] <GlassCasket> Eagle3: Thanks.
[04:28] <Madpilot> ardchoille, go ahead
[04:28] <lish> Sometimes i use Flash Mx in Windows to creat a flash. if can we do that in Linux ?
[04:28] <Eagle3> GlassCasket: np
[04:28] <profoX`> andrewski: hows it going with the sata
[04:28] <profoX`> lish: there are a few programs, but they generally.. suck
[04:28] <andrewski> profoX`: just looking it up.  O_o
[04:28] <tvalladon> nathan: and I would really like it in /media and not in a users direcotry.. its a multi user system
[04:28] <imme-emosol> lish: You can, with php... :P :D
[04:28] <Eagle3> GlassCasket: not sure if it comes with pump...I'm sure it can be installed
[04:28] <profoX`> lish: flash 7 creator runs in wine though
[04:28] <lish> wow
[04:28] <profoX`> andrewski: :P
[04:28] <karl> anyone know of a foobar2000 like linux player?
[04:29] <profoX`> I'm a pain in the ass
[04:29] <fishy> I don't mind not accessing Flash 9-only sites, but Flash files period run extremely slow. Pandora is almost not usable in Linux - slows things down terribly.
[04:29] <profoX`> i don't even know of a foobar2000 player :)
[04:29] <imme-emosol> profoX`: Now you say so, I can feel it...
[04:29] <andrewski> karl: only through WINE
[04:29] <profoX`> fishy: yes i know.. blame adobe for that :(
[04:29] <karl> profoX`, poor you
[04:29] <helpmeee> im trying to run shareaza in wine but it never seems to connect to any of the urls i's querying :( any idea how to fix this?
[04:29] <andrewski> karl: but there are better, i assure you.
[04:29] <karl> andrewski, i tried, but unfortunately I have no output
[04:29] <test> wow thanks for the many replies. I appreciate the respnses. Okay would I have to mount the /home directory every time or would it auto mount on it's own?
[04:29] <GlassCasket> Eagle3: That's fine, I think pump either uses dhcp or something else to fetch the IP. So either is good.
[04:29] <userundefine> karl, Listen or Amarok... but truth be told there isn't any player with the audiophile customization capabilities of foobar
[04:29] <tvalladon> hmmmm
[04:29] <Eagle3> GlassCasket: k
[04:29] <karl> :(
[04:29] <Nitefall>  I can't get logging to work with xchat/ubuntu :/
[04:29] <fishy> profoX`: what about GNUFlash and all of that stuff - has that every worked?
[04:29] <profoX`> karl: i have good audio player progs :) Amarok, Listen, MPD!
[04:30] <profoX`> fishy: not yet..
[04:30] <profoX`> fishy: it's in alpha releases, still in development
[04:30] <profoX`> fishy: it can play some flash7 content, but not 8 or 9
[04:30] <andrewski> profoX`: first result (cached; forums are down): http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:5rNMUgxcHFgJ:www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D193906+sda+OR+sata+dma&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
[04:30] <GlassCasket> I would check the forums, but between the alternate install and the regular install. What makes the alternate install for slower computers?
[04:30] <Simy> hello, I could use some help, I'm trying to install xubuntu, Right now, everytime i click on the install icon on my desktop, the window is much larger then my screen size, and im not able to see any of the bottom buttons, i just tabbed past the language screen, and then im at the timezone screen, however I cant tab past the dialog box, So question is, how can i install, Is there a comandline, perhaps using menuconfig? or is there a way to
[04:30] <fishy> profoX`: I just need Flash to be faster - it slows down everything now - all the Flash stuff I need to access is all Flash 7.
[04:30] <firstknight> Hi, everytime I run gtk+ application, I got this message: GTK Accessibility Module initialized
[04:31] <firstknight> how do I stop that?
[04:31] <karl> could i get a link for listen?
[04:31] <Led_Zepp1lin> ok I am back
[04:31] <tvalladon> nathan: ok, I created a /media/storage/user and then set the owner of the DIR as user and now the user can edit files in it :( it will work... but still dont know why I would have to do that.
[04:31] <userundefine> karl, http://listengnome.free.fr/
[04:31] <fishy> Led_Zeppe1lin: on a side note, Led Zeppelin rocks :D
[04:31] <karl> thx
[04:31] <Led_Zepp1lin> currently I am in Destop Ubuntu (CDrom) for my laptop, and everything is going well. Now I want to put these settings on the installed Ubuntu on my hdisk. I want to get the X11 settings first, so what files should I copy over to my hdisk?
[04:31] <Simy> Is there a non gui install method for xubuntu?
[04:31] <Commander-Crowe> in ubuntu howdo i open a terminal while in a dir
[04:31] <profoX`> fishy: i know.. maybe you can try Wine with windows firefox + windows flash, that works though, eventhough it is an evil workaround
[04:31] <fishy> firstknight: In what form does that message come in?
[04:31] <profoX`> Simy: alternate install cd ?
[04:32] <firstknight> fishy, standard output ( in console )
[04:32] <tvalladon> Simy: download the alt version
[04:32] <Simy> Thank you
[04:32] <nathan> tvalladon, you probably want to find a more suitable place to mount it if its perminant
[04:32] <fishy> firstnight: it is supposed to appear there - you don't want it to go away.
[04:32] <andrewski> yikers, i just crashed hard.  have compiz installed, but am not even running it.
[04:33] <Commander-Crowe> no one?
[04:33] <andrewski> no more backspace from me, i promise.
[04:33] <Commander-Crowe> !ignore
[04:33] <ubotu> If you really don't wish to see the messages from a particular person on IRC, you can use /ignore nickname
[04:33] <tvalladon> nathan: like /mnt?
[04:33] <andrewski> Commander-Crowe: what's up?
[04:33] <Led_Zepp1lin> anyone help?
[04:33] <heatxsink> hello all http://pastebin.ca/95512
[04:33] <Commander-Crowe> how do I open terminal in a dir that I'm currently in
[04:33] <sethk> nathan, permanent
[04:33] <andrewski> Commander-Crowe: from nautilus?
[04:33] <nathan> tvalladon, sure, or if its just for your user why not ~/spare - at least that's what i do
[04:33] <Commander-Crowe> yeah Gnome
[04:34] <GlassCasket> I would check the forums, but between the alternate install and the regular install. What makes the alternate install for slower computers?
[04:34] <firstknight> fishy, why? I don't need that. I got that problem after I run gnopernicus.....
[04:34] <karl> anyone know why after i edit my xorg.conf to rotate my screen 180 degrees i get stuck at a splash screen in to boot process?
[04:34] <tvalladon> nathan: but its not just for me, its for all the users on my system.. its a test system for work
[04:34] <Commander-Crowe> like in SuSE its Ctrl+Alt+T
[04:34] <andrewski> Commander-Crowe: i /think/ there's a nautilus script for that, but i'm not sure.  i do know there's one for thunar, which is an alternate (bit lighter) filemanager.
[04:34] <tvalladon> nathan: I plan to setup quotas on it and stuff
[04:34] <Commander-Crowe> ah I'll look into it
[04:35] <Commander-Crowe> ubuntu doesn't run well on 256 MB of ram
[04:35] <karl> sure it does
[04:35] <z0r1> What do I use to burn CDs?
[04:35] <andrewski> Commander-Crowe: correction: gnome doesn't.  try xfce.
[04:35] <tvalladon> next question to anyone, I have setup in VMware a thin client ubuntu setup the works perfect, is there a way to copy this exact setup onto a livecd? correction, and EASY way to do it
[04:36] <nathan> tvalladon, it's all down to user permissions
[04:36] <fishy> can you run windows installers with wine?
[04:36] <Commander-Crowe> xfce takes to long to download on dial up
[04:36] <karl> fishy, thats the intention
[04:36] <Commander-Crowe> and I love xfce :(
[04:36] <andrewski> Commander-Crowe: get an xubuntu disc?
[04:36] <fishy> karl: well I thought you could only run certain binaries - installers are always kind of unique
[04:36] <z0r1> What do I use to burn audio CDs?
[04:36] <Commander-Crowe> yeah
[04:36] <MenZa> z0r1: k3b
[04:37] <karl> fishy, wine has improved quite a bit over time
[04:37] <fishy> z0r1: Gnome-Baker
[04:37] <andrewski> profoX`: best i can tell, DMA isn't available on SATA drives.  ooh... wikipedia probably has stuff....
[04:37] <softwork> firefox extension to say bechmark
[04:37] <profoX`> andrewski: it should be!
[04:37] <tvalladon> nathan: I do think in this case /mnt is more logical.. but do you know how I can get a directory to show up in the "mount panel" for gnome?
[04:37] <softwork> time page is opening
[04:37] <fishy> karl: I've never used Wine before - all I've got to run with it was notepad.exe. Everything else crashed.
[04:37] <andrewski> profoX`: what do you mean?
[04:37] <z0r1> any other choices .. those sound windows manager specific
[04:37] <imme-emosol> How do I do an e with two dots on top?
[04:37] <karl> fishy, get the latest version
[04:37] <andrewski> z0r1: what do you mean?  those would run on either?  which are you using?
[04:37] <karl> any idea why I might be stuck at a spashscreen during boot of ubuntu because I added the rotate option in my xorg.conf?
[04:38] <andrewski> z0r1: *which de/wm?
[04:38] <Nitefall>  I can't get logging to work with xchat/ubuntu :/ anyone know why?
[04:38] <z0r1> gnome .. but I was looking for a more universal one .. even if they do work on both
[04:38] <profoX`> andrewski: i mean, dma should be possible on sata i think
[04:38] <andrewski> profoX`: hrm.
[04:38] <profoX`> andrewski: anyway, sata is just a controller right?
[04:38] <andrewski> profoX`: hardware was never my specialty.
[04:38] <Commander-Crowe> how big is apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:38] <profoX`> andrewski: what else do you have in your pc ? besides hd drive ? (i mean hd drives and cd/dvd rom players)
[04:39] <commctrl> Commander-Crowe, you can see before you actually commit to it
[04:39] <Commander-Crowe> PLEASE TELL
[04:39] <andrewski> profoX`: it's a dell laptop, with a dvd/cd-rw.
[04:39] <Commander-Crowe> oops
[04:39] <Commander-Crowe> sorry
[04:39] <profoX`> andrewski: combo drive?
[04:39] <andrewski> profoX`: yes
[04:39] <commctrl> Commander-Crowe, do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" it will tell you, then if you go too far, Ctrl+C
[04:40] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[04:40] <andrewski> z0r1: something light then, like gnome-baker (really), serpentine, or xcdroast.
[04:40] <humanpersonman> "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[04:40] <profoX`> andrewski: well then it's no option to be changing hardware inside it :P if its a laptop
[04:40] <imme-emosol> How do I do an e with two dots on top?
[04:40] <profoX`> otherwise you could try to connect the HD to a normal IDE controller instead of SATA
[04:40] <andrewski> profoX`: nope... but it's a dell, i could look up the specs if that'd help.
[04:40] <andrewski> imme-emosol: h/o, i have a link for you.
[04:41] <z0r1> Where are programs stored at?
[04:41] <profoX`> andrewski: i don't think that will change anything..
[04:41] <z0r1> Like audacity.. or something
[04:41] <andrewski> profoX`: do you think i'm screwed on speed or something?
[04:41] <Commander-Crowe> can i get xfce through synaptic?
[04:41] <imme-emosol> andrewski: h/o ?
[04:41] <andrewski> z0r1: on the filesystem?
[04:41] <humanpersonman> z0r1, generally it is in the /usr directory
[04:41] <andrewski> Commander-Crowe: yup
[04:41] <andrewski> imme-emosol: hold on
[04:41] <Commander-Crowe> I'll do that
[04:41] <profoX`> z0r1: the scripts to run those files are often in  /usr/bin, the things itself mostly somewhere in /usr
[04:41] <commctrl> Commander-Crowe, but it won't tell you how big it is until you're actually doing it
[04:41] <andrewski> imme-emosol: http://andrew.triumf.ca/iso8859-1-compose.html
[04:41] <imme-emosol> andrewski: ah okay. :D
[04:41] <humanpersonman> zor1, either in /usr/lib or /usr/bin although bin generally has scripts not prorams
[04:41] <andrewski> imme-emosol: ^
[04:41] <ChakRa> guys a beginner question. When i ssh into remote ubuntu machine ( also using ubuntu on local machine ) i cannot use scp function to copy files from remote ubuntu to local ubuntu. It keeps giving me all the options i can use with the scp command. Also i am doing this throught console. Through gui works fine
[04:41] <imme-emosol> andrewski: tnX
[04:42] <profoX`> andrewski: nah, should be fixable somehow
[04:42] <andrewski> imme-emosol: let me know if you have trouble; i wrangled with it a while back.
[04:42] <sethk> ChakRa, it is   scp host:/path/to/file /wherever/file
[04:42] <z0r1> so where should I store a .so file for audacity?
[04:42] <andrewski> imme-emosol: it may work already, if you press right Alt, e, and ".
[04:42] <z0r1> I don't want to throw it in my home folder
[04:42] <andrewski> z0r1: what .so's are you moving manually??
[04:43] <sethk> ChakRa, if you see the list of options, you aren't giving it two, and only two, arguments, or you are giving a flag (-X, X being some letter) that it doesn't understand
[04:43] <tvalladon> nathan: thank you very much for your help :D
[04:43] <z0r1> I'm adding libmp3lame.so
[04:43] <tvalladon> have a nice night all :D
[04:43] <Commander-Crowe> 45 MB
[04:43] <ChakRa> so lets say after using ssh i am at the remote root # so do i type this?  sudo scp /remotehome/remotemyfolder  /localmachine/localfolder ???
[04:43] <fishy> wow - running Windows Firefox with Windows Flash speeds up Flash content a lot - thanks profoX`
[04:43] <Commander-Crowe> that'll take 4 hours....GREAT :)
[04:44] <andrewski> Commander-Crowe: worth it though, right?
[04:44] <humanpersonman> z0ri, what z0r1, hunt around in the /usr/lib directory there will likely be a directory in there called audacity
[04:44] <Commander-Crowe> YEP :)
[04:44] <andrewski> profoX`: mind finding something that backs that up?  like i said, i don't grok this hardware-speak and i'm not finding anything good, let alone something workable.
[04:44] <profoX`> andrewski: through searching i already found that it IS possible to have dma on sata, but in linux it gives problems
[04:45] <andrewski> profoX`: ah... interesting.  pretty lame, eh?
[04:45] <teckfatt> hello, anyone know what is the ubuntu website for temporary upload sceenshot or text?
[04:45] <profoX`> andrewski: check this for me: lsmod|grep ide-disk
[04:45] <profoX`> andrewski: that sata support is pretty new i think
[04:45] <andrewski> profoX`: nada
[04:45] <profoX`> andrewski: oh.. and lsmod|grep piix
[04:45] <andrewski> profoX`: ata_piix               11364  8
[04:45] <andrewski> libata                 83440  2 ata_piix,ahci
[04:45] <ChakRa> sethk, i hope i made sense in my last comment
[04:45] <oem> hi ppl kindly help me out on how to restore my username and password
[04:46] <profoX`> andrewski: yes, thats the one we need..
[04:46] <andrewski> profoX`: what's that mean?  you're pulling this out of thin air as far as i'm concerned. :)
[04:46] <andrewski> oem: yikers.  what happened?
[04:46] <teckfatt> hello, anyone know what is the website for temporary upload the screenshot and text?
[04:46] <profoX`> andrewski: i'm checking on this page: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_SATA_and_Linux
[04:47] <profoX`> andrewski: :)
[04:47] <GlassCasket> I would check the forums, but between the alternate install and the regular install. What makes the alternate install for slower computers?
[04:47] <andrewski> teckfatt: imageshack.us is one; google could tell you that with "image upload", i imagine.
[04:47] <andrewski> profoX`: well, judging by the URL, i don't think that'd be very useful. :-P
[04:47] <skavenge> GlassCasket: no livecd option, text install
[04:47] <profoX`> andrewski: it's not about the laptop, it's about what's in the laptop, a PATA/SATA configuration, just as in your dell :)
[04:47] <garryF> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.nor
[04:48] <profoX`> .org ?
[04:48] <GlassCasket> skavenge: Ah ok, I thought it simply had more configuration. Thanks
[04:48] <kimberley> !res
[04:48] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:48] <garryF> argh!!! Yes, org
[04:48] <kimberley> sweet.
[04:48] <andrewski> profoX`: no, i meant it ironically, sorry. :)
[04:48] <teckfatt> thank you andrewski, garryF
[04:48] <ChakRa> !ssh
[04:48] <andrewski> oh, not at me. :S
[04:48] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:49] <garryF> teckfatt Welcome
[04:49] <andrewski> profoX`: so apparently i can reboot with hda=noprobe and get DMA?
[04:49] <Commander-Crowe> 7% DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:49] <profoX`> andrewski: i don't think so..
[04:49] <andrewski> profoX`: yeah, it looks like that's for hda?
[04:50] <GlassCasket> If I use the server install, I'll end up getting an Ubuntu desktop like the regular install, but a bit more customized right?
[04:51] <andrewski> !tell GlassCasket about server
[04:51] <profoX`> andrewski: i think that will just make ata_piix take control, but it already does that for you
[04:51] <andrewski> profoX`: :(
[04:51] <GlassCasket> andrewski: Thanks for that. :)
[04:51] <andrewski> GlassCasket: cheers
[04:52] <Commander-Crowe> 10% DONE!!!!!!!!!!
[04:52] <profoX`> andrewski: i'm not giving up
[04:52] <andrewski> Commander-Crowe: :D
[04:52] <GlassCasket> One more thing, I will be able to run Gnome and KDE (not at the same time of course), so when I boot, I have a choice, right?
[04:52] <andrewski> GlassCasket: yup, you just have to logout.
[04:52] <nalioth> GlassCasket: at the login screen. look for 'sessions' and you can choose
[04:52] <andrewski> GlassCasket: you can even run them at the same time.
[04:53] <GlassCasket> andrewski: Won't running them at the same time cause issues with x?
[04:53] <andrewski> GlassCasket: you run two Xs, basically.
[04:53] <andrewski> GlassCasket: it slows your computer down, but you /can/ do it. ;)
[04:54] <GlassCasket> Oh ok, thanks. Looks like I'll have to install Ubuntu tomorow. ;)
[04:54] <andrewski> GlassCasket: good luck!
[04:54] <ChakRa> got it wasnt putting '"." in the end of the command to copy it in the local folder
[04:54] <ChakRa> ~__~
[04:54] <GlassCasket> andrewski: I've installed it before no problem. And I come from Gentoo, so I know what I'm doing. ;)
[04:55] <andrewski> GlassCasket: oh, lol.  well, have fun then.  it's certainly a lot more fun than gentoo.  (i came from there as well.)
[04:55] <profoX`> andrewski: hdparm -tT /dev/sda #this will test performance of the drive to confirm dma is probably really the problem, but it probably is
[04:55] <andrewski> profoX`: ok, trying...
[04:55] <GlassCasket> andrewski: What's funner about it?
[04:55] <andrewski> GlassCasket: 40 minutes versus 2 days.  your mileage may vary.
[04:56] <profoX`> gentoo is +(
[04:56] <Commander-Crowe> 16 FRIGGIN PERCENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:56] <profoX`> i love archlinux and ubuntu
[04:56] <Zambezi> Isn't it possible to hide IP on IRC without buying a BNC?
[04:56] <andrewski> profoX`: yeah, most recently came from arch.  good system.
[04:56] <profoX`> Zambezi: you don't have to buy bouncers
[04:56] <javiolo> Is there any way to remap my keyboard on console _
[04:56] <andrewski> profoX`: do i have to close RB to get a good estimate? :-P
[04:56] <GlassCasket> andrew: True, but I still got my system running after a day of heavy compiling KDE. Which only left me with a GUI with no software. lol
[04:56] <profoX`> andrewski: yes archlinux rocks :)
[04:57] <andrewski> javiolo: yup, there's a gnome applet for it, you can set it in xorg.conf, or you can use setxkbmap
[04:57] <andrewski> javiolo: options. :)
[04:57] <profoX`> andrewski: i dont know i read it on a forum somewhere.. won't eally help you anyway ;P
[04:57] <profoX`> really*
[04:57] <javiolo> andrewski not in gnome
[04:57] <Invader> Can someone help me to get Audo drivers to work with a dell Inspiron 3500
[04:57] <andrewski> GlassCasket: well, you have a faster computer than i did.
[04:57] <andrewski> javiolo: that's why i gave you two other options. :-P  kde?
[04:57] <javiolo> andrewski gnome works ok just in the console
[04:57] <lope321> i had linux installed before i tried ubuntu i have a second hd but it says i cannot mouth the second drive pls help me
[04:57] <Zambezi> profoX`, I hear good thing about Arch. I'll try it when I have some experienced with Linux or more time and a avaible computer.
[04:57] <andrewski> javiolo: setxkbmap
[04:57] <javiolo> andrewski btw I use fluxbox
[04:57] <Zambezi> profoX`, How can I do it?
[04:57] <Dial_tone> where can I edit the default gnome session for the entire system? add some xterm windows, etc
[04:58] <javiolo> andrewski ok thanks
[04:58] <andrewski> javiolo: np
[04:58] <andrewski> profoX`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA  eh?
[04:58] <profoX`> Zambezi: ye archlinux is nice.. ubuntu is also nice.. they both rock in their own way
[04:58] <imme-emosol> System > Preference > Keyboard
[04:58] <profoX`> Zambezi: you mean bouncer ? i have no experience with them, but i think a bouncer is just some sort of proxy ?
[04:58] <profoX`> but for irc
[04:59] <profoX`> afaik
[04:59] <javiolo> andrewski it says cannot open display *default display*
[04:59] <imme-emosol> Add to panel > Keyboard Indicator
[04:59] <andrewski> javiolo: oh, whoops, you're not in X?
[04:59] <andrewski> imme-emosol: javiolo's not in gnome.
[04:59] <profoX`> andrewski: doesnt seem to mention sata though..?
[04:59] <imme-emosol> andrewski: why not? :P
[04:59] <javiolo> andrewski Im now in the console
[05:00] <andrewski> profoX`: well, down at the bottom... the second para under troubleshooting is exactly what i got.  what do you think of the solution?
[05:00] <Commander-Crowe> howdo you start weechat?
[05:00] <javiolo> I presses ctrl alt f1 and Im running irssi withoith X
[05:00] <andrewski> javiolo: the name of the command is failing me now.
[05:00] <Commander-Crowe> argh
[05:01] <javiolo> andrewski keyboard works ok with gnome or other x apps
[05:01] <pppoe_dude> hi
[05:01] <andrewski> javiolo: yup, X is a whole other story.
[05:01] <pppoe_dude> for some reason x-window paste doesnt work on vi anymore... any ideas? i enabled syntax highlighting and auto indent
[05:01] <pppoe_dude> *vim
[05:01] <javiolo> andrewski but If I dont start the X and try to write on the console some keys are not there
[05:01] <profoX`> andrewski: well have you rtried what the wiki suggested if that is your error?
[05:01] <Zambezi> profoX`, It is a proxy. It change your IP.
[05:02] <andrewski> profoX`: no, i guess i could, i'm just afraid i'd bork my system.
[05:02] <ian> Question: How does one know if they should use Nvdia or ATI for their graphics card?
[05:02] <profoX`> Zambezi: yes a bouncer (bnc) shows the ip of the bouncer instead of your ip, so it's like a proxy
[05:02] <ian> I have a Gforce, but am uncertain how I bloody get the thing to work.. ;(
[05:02] <linux_user400354> how can i let anonymous ftp users see other files that are not in /home/ftp without letting them see everything that is on my computer?
[05:02] <profoX`> andrewski: well, try it out, and remember to make a backup (you are able to recover your system without X and/or with a live cd i hope?)
[05:02] <javiolo> zambezi try tor
[05:03] <Zambezi> profoX`, And that's not possible to get one free. Like installing one yourself.
[05:03] <profoX`> ian: geforce = always nvidia
[05:03] <Zambezi> javiolo, It's for IRC.
[05:03] <andrewski> profoX`: yeah, i'd be fine; it's just inconvenient. :-P
[05:03] <profoX`> Zambezi: you can, but that makes no sense if it's on your home pc.. then it still has the same ip
[05:03] <ian> Thanks profoX.  I appreciate it.
[05:03] <pppoe_dude> oh i also enabled cursor
[05:03] <javiolo> zambezi it also works with irc, you can get more info of how it works on the freenode site
[05:03] <andrewski> profoX`: i work in computer support and it gets tiring to do it at home too.  as we like to say, "everyone's a customer!"
[05:03] <profoX`> andrewski: hey, you want fast speeds, believe me
[05:03] <profoX`> try it out
[05:03] <profoX`> andrewski: lol, you actually get people with linux problems?
[05:03] <andrewski> profoX`: yeah, i will in a few; still have stuff up. :)
[05:04] <Broadcast> hey
[05:04] <andrewski> profoX`: no, windows/office support.
[05:04] <profoX`> i know a tech support guy (friend of mine) he only gets windows people
[05:04] <profoX`> oh :( you too
[05:04] <shriphani> guys i am installing xfce how do i get it to work ?
[05:04] <profoX`> andrewski: i am going to bed in a few minutes though.. so..
[05:04] <andrewski> profoX`: yeah.  occasional firefox call, had one AIX call....
[05:04] <amf> I get calls all the time for linux spt
[05:04] <andrewski> profoX`: thanks for the help.
[05:04] <profoX`> AIX? omg..
[05:05] <profoX`> andrewski: eh, i'm supposed to get milk with that :)
[05:05] <andrewski> profoX`: turns out it was just a bad A/B switch (phew), but my coworker freaked when he heard it. :-P
[05:05] <andrewski> brb
[05:05] <shriphani> guys how do i get xfce to work ?
[05:05] <profoX`> AB switch ..?
[05:05] <andrewski> shriphani: are you in it yet?
[05:05] <profoX`> anyway, AIX is scary ;p
[05:05] <shriphani> installing it
[05:05] <andrewski> profoX`: switch mouse/kb between two computers
[05:05] <profoX`> oooh that thing
[05:05] <amf> aix sucks
[05:06] <Bored_Silly> >.>
[05:06] <andrewski> shriphani: install xubuntu-desktop
[05:06] <profoX`> andrewski: will you please let me know how the thing turns out ?
[05:06] <shriphani> done that
[05:06] <andrewski> profoX`: sure, how?  you still be on?
[05:06] <Broadcast> How can I convert ntfs to fat32 without formatting
[05:06] <profoX`> with sata :)
[05:06] <shriphani> it is downloading it
[05:06] <andrewski> shriphani: ok... wait for it to complete then. ^_^
[05:06] <Zambezi> javiolo, But I prefer to have an own one.
[05:06] <shriphani> so i just need to rebt ?
[05:06] <profoX`> andrewski: probably not since my normal pc that is always on is broken, this one i power off at night ;) it can't handle too much heat.. it's an old thing.. i don't want to stress it
[05:07] <andrewski> shriphani: select it from GDM sessions.
[05:07] <amf> shouldn't have to format, just make a new filesystem
[05:07] <shriphani> ok
[05:07] <profoX`> andrewski: but i'll be here tomorrow.. when i'm awake.. i'll see you here.. (or you could mail: profox@linux.be)
[05:07] <andrewski> profoX`: PM me your email?  i'm not on here too often.
[05:07] <andrewski> oh... heh.
[05:07] <Mike-x2> hi there
[05:07] <amf> you will lose ur files tho unless ya back em up
[05:07] <profoX`> should've pm'ed that lol
[05:07] <andrewski> profoX`: your call. :)
[05:08] <Broadcast> ??
[05:08] <profoX`> andrewski: doesnt matter, that mail is only used for linux stuff, it gets in a separate mailbox :) with spam filtering
[05:08] <Broadcast> amf, what do you mean?
[05:08] <andrewski> cool
[05:08] <Broadcast> how do i make a new file system
[05:08] <amf> depends on the type  man mkfs  mkdosfs
[05:08] <andrewski> Broadcast: gparted is comfy and nice.
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> gparted rocks
[05:09] <andrewski> amf: yuck, i'd never do that in the console! O_O
[05:09] <andrewski> javiolo: !!! loadkeys!  that's it!
[05:09] <profoX`> 05:10 here (morning) ... going to bed now o_O ... nn andrewski
[05:09] <andrewski> profoX`: night
[05:09] <andrewski> thanks again
[05:09] <profoX`> np, good luck with it
[05:09] <amf> andrewski   do what? make a file system usinf command prompt?
[05:10] <andrewski> amf: yeah.  i'm spoiled.
[05:10] <javiolo> andrewski lets see
[05:10] <Broadcast> ok
[05:10] <Broadcast> i need to install gparted
[05:10] <Broadcast> but i dont know how to
[05:10] <Broadcast> i got the download
[05:10] <profoX`> bye!
[05:10] <Broadcast> it's tar.bz2
[05:10] <javiolo> andrewski what does loadkeys does
[05:10] <Broadcast> how do i install it
[05:10] <amf> yeah,  ok.   I taught linux admin for a few years and made everyone use console only.   But I see ur point.
[05:10] <andrewski> Broadcast: use synaptic or apt-get.  tell me which and i'll tell you how.
[05:10] <Flav> mke2fs -j is friendly enough IMHO
[05:10] <garryF> !info gparted
[05:10] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[05:11] <javiolo> andrewski ok found the info
[05:11] <andrewski> Broadcast: you'll rarely have to download a .tar.bz2 yourself.
[05:11] <aqau_inter_fly> just a quick question, is there any way to read nstf or do i need to format my windows partition to FAT32
[05:11] <andrewski> Broadcast: let ubuntu do all the heavy lifting. :)
[05:11] <ironfroggy> i used easyubuntu, but i still cant play wmv videos. does it not include those drivers
[05:11] <andrewski> aqau_inter_fly: you can read ntfs, and you can even write to it (but with beta software).  let me know if you'd like more info.
[05:12] <amf> reading is no problem   writing to ntfs is a whole other story
[05:12] <andrewski> !coders
[05:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about coders - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:12] <andrewski> !codecs
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:12] <Broadcast> andrewski, how do i let ububtu do it
[05:12] <andrewski> Broadcast: 'sudo apt-get install gparted'
[05:12] <aqau_inter_fly> andrewski: of course i would like to know more (i don't feel like formatting to FAT32
[05:12] <andrewski> amf: not a problem, actually.  ntfs-3g works... for me, anyway.
[05:12] <ironfroggy> yeah i know all about the restricted formats oage
[05:13] <amf> yeah..  litlle leary of it,  but if it works for you,  cool.
[05:13] <andrewski> ironfroggy: ok... so what's the problem then?  do you have everything installed?  which program are you using?
[05:13] <Broadcast> heh
[05:13] <Broadcast> thanks
[05:13] <Broadcast> :)
[05:13] <andrewski> aqau_inter_fly: ntfs-3g is the driver.  there's a howto on the forums; i can search for it in a few if you can't.
[05:13] <andrewski> Broadcast: did you get that?
[05:13] <ironfroggy> andrewski: i was only asking if easyubuntu is supposed to install them automatically.
[05:13] <Broadcast> yeah
[05:14] <andrewski> ironfroggy: dunno... maybe the wiki would say?
[05:14] <Broadcast> worked
[05:14] <Broadcast> but wait
[05:14] <Broadcast> with gparted, do i have to format
[05:14] <amf> anyone else use "automatix" to install all the audeo codecs and other goodies?
[05:14] <amf> automatix is awesome.
[05:14] <andrewski> amf: i had a friend who did, and then promptly called me to save his system.  i stay away from it.
[05:14] <ironfroggy> andrewski: seems to say it should install them, but it didnt.
[05:15] <andrewski> amf: need i '!automatix'?
[05:15] <andrewski> Broadcast: you'll lose your data any way you slice it.  the filesystem is the bedrock for your data.
[05:15] <ironfroggy> hmm.. or rather, it seems that it has installed them, but i still cant play them. im trying to play them in kmplayer
[05:15] <Broadcast> This operation will destroy all data on /dev/hda5
[05:15] <Broadcast> :(
[05:15] <andrewski> ironfroggy: try vlc or mplayer.
[05:15] <amf> really,  everyone at work  ~20 people and myself used it and saved ungodly amounts of time.  Everything worked great
[05:15] <Broadcast> i want to just convert it
[05:15] <andrewski> Broadcast: formatting is actually doing less than creating a filesystem.
[05:15] <Broadcast> without losing my files
[05:16] <andrewski> Broadcast: you'll have to back them up somewhere else.
[05:16] <ironfroggy> andrewski: i just said i was using mplayer
[05:16] <andrewski> as far as i know, anyway.
[05:16] <andrewski> ironfroggy: sorry, missed that.
[05:16] <Broadcast> ok, how do mount ntfs read/write on ubuntu
[05:16] <Broadcast> :d
[05:16] <andrewski> ironfroggy: could they be DRMed?
[05:16] <ToHellWithGA> how can i switch my alsa source?
[05:16] <andrewski> Broadcast: search the forums for 'ntfs-3g howto'... post back if you're unsure of the results.
[05:17] <ironfroggy> andrewski: well ive played them before on linux.
[05:17] <andrewski> ironfroggy: you do have w32codecs installed?
[05:17] <ironfroggy> yes
[05:17] <Broadcast> ok, look, how do i access root
[05:17] <andrewski> Broadcast: sudo -s
[05:17] <tritium_away> !rootsudo > Broadcast
[05:17] <brasko> hi, I just installed sun-java5-jdk
[05:17] <tritium_away> sudo -i
[05:18] <Dasnipa`> searching for beer.h in libfridge... beer not found, please correct this before compiling
[05:18] <brasko> it want into /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06
[05:18] <andrewski> tritium: ah, that's handy syntax. :)
[05:18] <brasko> however, there is multiple java's installed on my system cause ubuntu is java crazy
[05:18] <tritium> andrewski: :)
[05:18] <brasko> how do I get the java 1.5 that I installed to be the default?
[05:18] <brasko> can I just set the PATH to the bin directory?
[05:18] <brasko> or is there more to do so that the runtime can find the 1.5 libraries?
[05:19] <Broadcast> The folder contents could not be displayed.
[05:19] <brasko> I'm coding: need help fast :)
[05:19] <ironfroggy> is there something i need to do in order to enable or configure the win32codecs?
[05:19] <Broadcast> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "other".
[05:19] <andrewski> brasko: maybe something in the wiki?
[05:19] <Dasnipa`> brasko, you can set the path... i have it done that way
[05:19] <Broadcast> why's that
[05:19] <andrewski> ironfroggy: not that i know of.  work for me in totem.
[05:19] <brasko> Dasnipa`: just setting the PATH worked for you to /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/bin?
[05:19] <andrewski> ironfroggy: have you tried totem, if you have it installed?
[05:19] <andrewski> ironfroggy: or xine?
[05:19] <tritium> andrewski: I remember yours too...
[05:19] <brasko> cause I'm doing that and it seems that there is a problem, but I would need a lawyer to prove it
[05:19] <shriphani> guys it has set up the xubuntu desktop
[05:19] <andrewski> tritium: you must've helped me a LOT. :-P
[05:20] <_atomic> hello
[05:20] <Dasnipa`> brasko, yes, except for that i have java 5 installed on my $HOME dir but same idea
[05:20] <andrewski> shriphani: whee!
[05:20] <tritium> :)
[05:20] <Broadcast> ?
[05:20] <shriphani> what do i do now to get it running ?
[05:20] <ironfroggy> andrewski: tried xine too yeah
[05:20] <_atomic> I'll think about it
[05:20] <tritium> Thanks, andrewski.  I hope so.
[05:20] <brasko> OK, for some reason I have at least 3 java's installed
[05:20] <brasko> gcj
[05:20] <brasko> blackdown and sun's now
[05:20] <andrewski> shriphani: select it in the sessions menu when you login.
[05:20] <brasko> how in the world does it now which jar's to use?
[05:20] <andrewski> tritium: by chance, would you happen to know about DMA on SATA?
[05:21] <shriphani> oh so should reboot b?
[05:21] <trevor> hello everyone...I have a question concerning MythTV and mysql...can anyone help?
[05:21] <Dasnipa`> brasko, i however changed the name of the symlink to java5 because i was doing some dev in java and i wanted to be able to test on java 4 and 5
[05:21] <brasko> Dasnipa`: what symlink? /usr/bin/java?
[05:21] <andrewski> trevor: many in #mythtv-chat are using ubuntu... maybe you could ask there?  (only if no one else answers here, of course.)
[05:21] <Broadcast> how do i login as root
[05:21] <brasko> trevor: not if you don't ask
[05:21] <ToHellWithGA> !ice1712
[05:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about ice1712 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:21] <Broadcast> i want to change permissions
[05:21] <ToHellWithGA> !sound
[05:21] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:21] <andrewski> Broadcast: sudo -i, sorry about being wrong.
[05:21] <andrewski> :-P
[05:21] <tritium> andrewski: no more than I know about it on PATA
[05:22] <Commander|away> 18% DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:22] <WiseOdd> would sb plz help a newb. cant figure out why my dvd players crash (ogle & okle)... they work with some discs and not with others.. is it some kind of protection against "THE BAD LINUX" or whatever?
[05:22] <trevor> brasko: hehe...ok...I install mythtv....but im running XAMPP instead of installing apache, php, and mysql
[05:22] <Dasnipa`> brasko, oh nvm me i added a symlink to the java executable in bin... but setting path works too i just preferred this method for me
[05:22] <andrewski> tritium: wait a tick... PATA?  you making this up?
[05:22] <Broadcast> np
[05:22] <Broadcast> but what after that
[05:22] <trevor> but mythtv does not see mysql database
[05:22] <tritium> andrewski: no, of course not
[05:22] <brasko> Dasnipa`: OK, so it works for you but doesn't seem to work for me .... unless java isn't portable :)
[05:22] <tritium> andrewski: remember the old, flat ribbon cables?  That was pata
[05:23] <brasko> this works on my buddy's gentoo machine
[05:23] <andrewski> tritium: oh... not IDE?
[05:23] <brasko> and on my machine I get a stack trace
[05:23] <brasko> so I'm assuming the java 1.5 runtime is not being used
[05:23] <Broadcast> ?
[05:23] <andrewski> tritium: wikipedia is my friend.  hardware has never been. :-P
[05:23] <Dasnipa`> brasko, try a symlink in /usr/bin   symlink it to a different name the reason its not working is that it looks in PATH in order to find the executable so if you have java in bin before your local path then itll use the first it finds
[05:23] <gdb> brasko: what does 'java -version' tell you?
[05:24] <Broadcast> hey
[05:24] <Broadcast> andrewski, what after sudo -i?
[05:24] <Dasnipa`> brasko, in order, as in the first listed is the first looked in
[05:24] <andrewski> Broadcast: enter... then your password (yours, not root's) and you'll become root.  then... be careful. ^_^
[05:24] <WiseOdd> hey all. sb wana help a n00b? cant play a dvd, cant figure out why not...
[05:25] <tritium> andrewski: got your answer there?  :)
[05:25] <gdb> brasko: If it's gcj then your options are to install the sun-java5 packages from multiverse or install java5 in /opt and modify your PATH statement.  I'd not recommend messing with symlinks in /usr/bin.
[05:25] <ToHellWithGA> anybody here know which files i should edit to setup alsa properly?
[05:25] <andrewski> tritium: certainly not, but i know that PATA == IDE. :)
[05:25] <andrewski> ToHellWithGA: i'm not sure; it should Just Work. :-S
[05:26] <Broadcast> andrewski, Yeah, well i want to change permission and give my account, not the root, root access
[05:26] <andrewski> Broadcast: that's a bad idea.
[05:26] <Broadcast> why?
[05:26] <andrewski> Broadcast: use sudo or sudo -i when you need access, otherwise don't let yourself break your system accidentally.
[05:26] <andrewski> !sudo
[05:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:27] <ToHellWithGA> andrewski: wow.  that's terribly helpful :P  anybody want to not be a clown and help me with sound problems?
[05:27] <brasko> gdb: I installed sun-java5-jdk
[05:27] <brasko> gdb: Do you use cgdb?
[05:27] <Broadcast> k, thanks a lot andrewski
[05:27] <shriphani> cool xubuntu is running
[05:27] <andrewski> ToHellWithGA: i'm not being a clown, sorry if it came off that way.  i'm being sympathetic to the fact that your sound's not working and that you've asked a few times to no avail.  i've been there, it's just been far too long.
[05:27] <andrewski> shriphani: whee again!
[05:27] <shriphani> i mean xfce is
[05:28] <Dasnipa`> gdb, why do you not recommend a simple symlink in bin?
[05:28] <shriphani> i want to know if xfce is better than gome
[05:28] <brasko> Dasnipa`: he's a debugger, he doesn't like to create problems
[05:28] <brasko> shriphani: yes, it is
[05:28] <tritium> shriphani: they each have their pros and cons
[05:28] <andrewski> shriphani: faster, yes.  better?  hard to say.  it doesn't do as much for you or as integrated as gnome does, but it's certainly very good.
[05:28] <brasko> shriphani: I use gnome though
[05:29] <noiesmo> xfce rocks!
[05:29] <brasko> shriphani: and have never tried xfce
[05:29] <andrewski> shriphani: yes, but i use gnome.  fast computer here. :)
[05:29] <shriphani> so you dont recommend me to get rid of gnome ?
[05:29] <andrewski> shriphani: xfce on my desktop or when i need the resources.
[05:29] <WiseOdd> help! I just neeeed somebody, not just anybody... heeeeeelpp... *bad music on my brain*
[05:29] <Dasnipa`> brasko, i know how that goes i work in a software testing lab... but ive never had a problem with the symlinks
[05:29] <shriphani> because i have memory problems
[05:29] <brasko> Dasnipa`: hehe, OK
[05:29] <andrewski> shriphani: no, i wouldn't recommend it.  in fact, my best experience was running gnome-panel in xfce, but that may not be good for memory problems.
[05:29] <Flav> brasko: you would say "he doesn't like to create problems" after gdb crashed on me today :)
[05:29] <imme-emosol> Any of you guys remember how I was asking why I couldn't go to tty1-6 anymore... ?
[05:30] <imme-emosol> 'cause I think I found the problem... :P
[05:30] <ironfroggy> i have a smbfs mounted volume. is there a way to nicely handle what happens when im away from my network?
[05:30] <shriphani> so i must keep gnome on ?
[05:30] <andrewski> shriphani: you don't have to, but it won't hurt anything but hard drive space.
[05:30] <shriphani> yes
[05:30] <haary> so, is anybody running Edgy Eft yet?
[05:31] <shriphani> what extra can you do with gnome or xfce ?
[05:31] <andrewski> haary: last i heard, it wasn't a good idea yet; too much changing.
[05:31] <aqau_inter_fly> How do i run rpm installers in ubuntu?
[05:31] <ziggin> can anybody help me real quick
[05:31] <andrewski> !alien > aqau_inter_fly
[05:31] <ziggin> my issue is probably really simple
[05:32] <andrewski> ziggin: just ask
[05:32] <shriphani> aqau_inter_fly, convert rpm to deb ??
[05:32] <andrewski> shriphani: in gnome you'll probably never have to edit a config file by hand.
[05:32] <aqau_inter_fly> shriphani:  no idea...whatever works
[05:32] <ziggin> I am trying to install Drake as a VMware image
[05:32] <satafterh> whats a good software firewall?
[05:32] <shriphani> oh and xfce i need to config everything ?
[05:32] <noiesmo> satafterh, firrestarter
[05:32] <prophet> whats a good bit torrent client?
[05:32] <ziggin> I tried Desktop but I couldnt get it to work right
[05:32] <noiesmo> satafterh, firestarter
[05:32] <ziggin> Im assuming because they made that one a LiveCD
[05:32] <andrewski> shriphani: no, but there are a few settings you can't set in the GUI.
[05:32] <shriphani> prophet, bit-torrents ?
[05:32] <satafterh> thx
[05:32] <firstknight> prophet, azureus
[05:33] <shriphani> enlighten me please andrewski
[05:33] <andrewski> shriphani: many more panel applets in gnome too.
[05:33] <ziggin> couldnt get it to work right as in I couldnt install it
[05:33] <trevor> prophet: torrentflux
[05:33] <brasko> can i just modify /etc/alternatives?  or is this maintained by some tool?
[05:33] <prophet> thanks
[05:33] <brasko> the 'javac' link is pointing to 1.5.0 and 'java' is pointing to 1.42 (gjc)
[05:33] <brasko> i think that's the problem
[05:33] <shriphani> ok so i must carry out installations in gnome then ?
[05:34] <n3rdism> !format
[05:34] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:34] <ToHellWithGA> i need an asound.conf file
[05:34] <ziggin> is there something Im doing wrong
[05:34] <Broadcast> ok
[05:34] <brasko> shriphani: xfce rocks, use it
[05:34] <ToHellWithGA> anybody know why i would not have an asound.conf file for alsa?
[05:34] <Broadcast> i have a paste
[05:34] <Broadcast> how do i?
[05:34] <ziggin> or do I need to use the server version
[05:34] <Broadcast> !gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[05:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about gksu gedit /etc/fstab - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:34] <catskul> anyone have sound problems after the latest kernel update ?
[05:34] <ironfroggy> does anyone here have win32codecs working and can play videos in firefox?
[05:34] <catskul> er s/kernel//
[05:34] <Broadcast> !root@Broadcast:~# gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[05:34] <Broadcast> (gksu:10294): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:34] <Broadcast> root@Broadcast:~#
[05:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about root@Broadcast:~# gksu gedit /etc/fstab - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:34] <Broadcast> !paste root@Broadcast:~# gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[05:34] <Broadcast> (gksu:10294): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:34] <Broadcast> root@Broadcast:~#
[05:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about paste root@Broadcast:~# gksu gedit /etc/fstab - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:34] <noiesmo> ironfroggy, theres a mplayer-plugin for firefox
[05:34] <tritium> Broadcast: use pastebin, dude
[05:34] <Broadcast> how?
[05:34] <Broadcast> :D
[05:34] <noiesmo> noiesmo, yes mpeg etc play in firefox
[05:35] <tritium> !paste
[05:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:35] <Sgeo> !paste test
[05:35] <ziggin> hello?
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about paste test - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:35] <Sgeo> !paste
[05:35] <aqau_inter_fly> shriphani: if i were to convert rpm to deb, how would i install it that way
[05:35] <ironfroggy> noiesmo: is there a package for that?
[05:35] <n3rdism> if i am going to format a harddrive, which format would you suggest for an all purpose rwx, basically a media drive?
[05:35] <andrewski> n3rdism: ext3 or reiserfs would be fine.
[05:35] <isisisis> can someone help me i have two hard drives and when i click on the second hard drive it isnt letting me mount the drive pls help
[05:35] <tritium> n3rdism: ext3.  I'd stay away from reiserfs
[05:36] <shriphani> dpkg -i packagename.deb ??
[05:36] <n3rdism> ill prolly go with ext3 in that case, since its what my system uses
[05:36] <Broadcast> i dont get it
[05:36] <Broadcast> paste root@Broadcast:~# gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[05:36] <Broadcast> (gksu:10294): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:36] <Broadcast> root@Broadcast:~#
[05:36] <n3rdism> ive always liked ext3 too
[05:36] <andrewski> shriphani: no, you can use synaptic or apt-get just like in gnome.
[05:36] <trevor> haha
[05:36] <n3rdism> thanks for the input trit and andrew
[05:36] <shriphani> oh cool
[05:36] <tritium> Broadcast: I just told you not to paste
[05:36] <Broadcast> how do i paste in the bin man
[05:36] <andrewski> shriphani: programs work anywhere.  gnome and xfce are basically just a different set of programs.
[05:36] <ziggin> hello?
[05:36] <tritium> I showed you that too...
[05:36] <tritium> !paste
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:36] <tritium> Broadcast: ^^
[05:36] <isisisis> can someone help me i have two hard drives and when i click on the second hard drive it isnt letting me mount the drive pls help
[05:37] <noiesmo> ironfroggy, yes mplayerplug-in
[05:37] <Zambezi> Just curious. Is there a grafic card which is sutible for Linux? Like a card with good hardwaresupport?
[05:37] <Broadcast> then what, i filled in and submitted
[05:37] <noiesmo> ironfroggy, think in universe or multiverse not sure which one
[05:37] <n3rdism> zambezi: anything nvidia ^^
[05:37] <andrewski> Broadcast: post the link here
[05:37] <ironfroggy> noiesmo: thats not a package name.
[05:37] <Broadcast> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18566
[05:37] <Broadcast> oh
[05:37] <Broadcast> :D
[05:37] <Broadcast> well
[05:37] <ironfroggy> noiesmo: ill guess that mozilla-mplayer is what i need
[05:37] <andrewski> isisisis: this should be fun. :)  what's on the drive?
[05:37] <Broadcast> gives me that error trying to mount ntfs
[05:37] <tritium> !enter > Broadcast
[05:38] <noiesmo> ironfroggy, aah yes sorry thats it
[05:38] <isisisis> movies mp3 etc
[05:38] <isisisis> i want it so when i click on my computer i can go into the drive
[05:38] <Broadcast> !enter > tritium
[05:38] <Broadcast> whats that man
[05:38] <ne78> Does the ubuntu unstable has xorg 7.1 already ?
[05:38] <isisisis> it was working in a previous linux os
[05:38] <andrewski> isisisis: was it a windows drive?
[05:38] <catskul> anyone have audio problems after the latest update ?
[05:38] <eigenlambda> ubuntu unstable?
[05:38] <eigenlambda> you mean edgy?
[05:38] <isisisis> no it was for linux
[05:38] <ne78> eigenlambda: yes edgy
[05:39] <ziggin> hellooooooo?
[05:39] <Amaranth> Broadcast: It sends you a PM.
[05:39] <ironfroggy> ok then one more question. how do i get the mplayer plugin to not play in a seperate window?
[05:39] <Broadcast> oh ok
[05:39] <eigenlambda> ne78: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:39] <Broadcast> well
[05:39] <ne78> Does the ubuntu edgy has xorg 7.1 already ? (reformulation)
[05:39] <[Ex0r] > anyone here know how to stop a sunburn from burning ?
[05:39] <Broadcast> did you see my !paste
[05:39] <tritium> Broadcast: I had ubotu tell you not to use the enter key as punctuation.  Use periods, please.
[05:39] <Broadcast> whats that again?
[05:39] <Broadcast> ok
[05:39] <Broadcast> ok
[05:39] <Broadcast> sorry
[05:39] <goatmale> how do I format a hard drive in terminal?
[05:39] <varun> what is the name of the package for the kernel sources? I tried all the variations of kernel-source and linux-source with the output of uname -r, but nothing worked
[05:39] <eigenlambda> edgy (x11): X.Org X Window System
[05:39] <eigenlambda> 1:7.0.22ubuntu6: all
[05:39] <Zambezi> n3rdism, I have ATI now. I bought I two weeks before I decide to migrate to Linux. :-/ But now, I'm think about a new computer. I just want to check how much it'll cost.
[05:39] <ne78> eigenlambda: i don't have a web browser, i'm running irc on an arcarde station text-only
[05:40] <ne78> eigenlambda: thank you
[05:40] <eigenlambda> it's 7.0.22 in edgy
[05:40] <Broadcast> so, andrewski , whats the error for?
[05:40] <andrewski> isisisis: ok... sorry i'm a little slow.
[05:40] <tritium> Broadcast: :(
[05:40] <andrewski> Broadcast: dunno.
[05:40] <isisisis> the second drive was working in a  different version oif linux
[05:40] <goatmale> how do I format a hard drive in terminal?
[05:40] <isisisis> it ok it happens mate
[05:40] <n3rdism> zambezi: i suggest the geforce 6800
[05:40] <n3rdism> zambezi: its cheap and still performs fairly well
[05:40] <andrewski> isisisis: so we'll need to put it in /etc/fstab.  any idea if it's there already?
[05:41] <isisisis> will when i click on my computer i see the second drive but when i click to mount it is gives me a error
[05:41] <andrewski> isisisis: what's the error?
[05:41] <goatmale> how do I format a harddrive in ubuntu?
[05:41] <ironfroggy> goatmale: mkfs
[05:41] <andrewski> goatmale: gparted is nice; you can try that.
[05:41] <isisisis> rror: device /dev/hdb1 is already mounted to /
[05:41] <isisisis> error: could not execute pmount
[05:41] <ziggin> I am trying to install Drake as a VMware image
[05:41] <goatmale> isisis
[05:42] <goatmale> I got the same error
[05:42] <andrewski> isisisis: well, there you go: that's your system. :)
[05:42] <andrewski> isisisis: right?
[05:42] <goatmale> isisis
[05:42] <ziggin> I didnt have a problem with Breezy
[05:42] <andrewski> !enter > goatmale
[05:42] <andrewski> isisisis: try 'df -h' in a terminal and post the line about hdb1 here.
[05:42] <Rugxulo> wow, this channel is much more active than #flatassembler   :-P
[05:43] <andrewski> tritium: this is a busy place!  i've rarely given it my full attention.  whew!
[05:43] <andrewski> Rugxulo: 'tis!
[05:43] <varun> so busy that my questions often get lost in the mess :-)
[05:43] <isisisis> /dev/hdb1              55G  2.5G   50G   5% /
[05:43] <tritium> andrewski: no kidding!
[05:44] <isisisis> on that drive i have 160 gigs
[05:44] <isisisis> for some reason hd1 and hdb looks like the same size
[05:44] <andrewski> isisisis: a moment... brb
[05:45] <goatmale> isisisis: open a terminal cd to /etc then type sudo gedtit pmount.allow
[05:45] <goatmale> add /dev/hdb1
[05:45] <haary> ziggin: what exactly does not work?
[05:45] <goatmale> to the bottom
[05:45] <goatmale> restart
[05:45] <goatmale> and you should be good
[05:45] <ziggin> I am trying to install Drake as a VMware image
[05:45] <Flav> how can i kill a process stuck in sTopped state (sigkill isn't working)?
[05:45] <carthik> Does anyone know of any good hosting providers that provide Ubuntu on the VPS?
[05:45] <Broadcast> Hey, how do i edit fstab
[05:45] <Broadcast> it's read only
[05:45] <haary> ziggin: yes, but what is the error?
[05:46] <wastrel> Flav:  kill -9
[05:46] <n3rdism> broadcast: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:46] <ziggin> haary: it wont install, it goes to LiveCD
[05:46] <Flav> wastrel: sigkill isn't working
[05:46] <goatmale> what was the format command again?
[05:46] <wastrel> Flav:  reboot then, it's a zombie
[05:46] <ziggin> is there a certain boot string Im supposed to use?
[05:46] <lefthanded> is ubuntu the best distro and why
[05:46] <andrewski> Flav: which app?
[05:46] <n3rdism> mkfs
[05:46] <n3rdism> goatmale ^
[05:46] <ziggin> or I am I supposed to use server vs desktop??
[05:46] <goatmale> thank you.
[05:46] <Flav> wastrel: not a zombie, it's sTopped (i had a debugger attached, and the debugger died)
[05:46] <Flav> andrewski: apache2 in this case
[05:46] <varun> lefthanded: for a first timer, I'd say it is
[05:46] <haary> ziggin: yeah, but you can install it from the live CD, just click on "install"
[05:46] <yaaar> word
[05:46] <ziggin> haary: I did that
[05:46] <ziggin> it just goes live
[05:47] <Flav> andrewski: i had a debugger attached to one of the child processes, the debugger died, and now i can't kill the stuck-in-stopped-state child procss
[05:47] <ziggin> and Im using the .iso
[05:47] <andrewski> Flav: yeah, reboot; i dunno about that specifically.
[05:47] <haary> ziggin: and, what happens after you click on install?
[05:47] <ToHellWithGA> how can i completely uninstall and reinstall alsa?
[05:47] <ToHellWithGA> it's fighting me big time
[05:47] <zazeem> i need help, how do i use a .x86 file? my game has pbweb.x86 and i dont know howto open it to update punkbuster :*(
[05:47] <Tommy2k4> omg wtf
[05:47] <billybennett> Okay I'm an idiot.. I'm encoding videos.. but its saying I dont have enough space.. but all the movies I transfered to this computer are only taking up 12gb... but I ran df and it says 96% in use  HELP :)
[05:47] <ziggin> it boots live, as if I went the route of not changing anything on the hard drive
[05:48] <yaaar> anybody recall the gconf key to make the nautilus spatial file manager not leave windows lying all over the place? i don't want to go back to the 'browser' mode, but i do want it to destroy the parent window when you open a folder, rather than leaving it there
[05:48] <Zambezi> n3rdism, I try to remeber it. I can be nice if I can play some games. Not the latest, but Ship simulator is one example.
[05:48] <Tommy2k4> my kubuntu is in like zoom mode or something
[05:48] <varun> ToHellWithGA, man apt-get
[05:48] <yaaar> i know i did it before on a different machine....and i thought i just changed some gconf key.....but i can't find one that looks likely
[05:48] <ToHellWithGA> varun: i don't know which alsa package i need to reinstall
[05:48] <zazeem> i need help, how do i use a .x86 file? my game has pbweb.x86 and i dont know howto open it to update punkbuster :*(
[05:48] <wastrel> Flav:  maybe continue it then kill?
[05:48] <haary> ziggin: after you click on install it boots?
[05:48] <isisisis> sudo: gedtit: command not found
[05:48] <isisisis> blackice@blackice-desktop:/etc$
[05:48] <isisisis> hmm
[05:48] <varun> ToHellWithGA, hmmm try synaptic, search for alsa
[05:48] <ziggin> haary: yes
[05:48] <andrewski> isisisis: gedit
[05:48] <colk> zazeem, chomod +x it
[05:48] <colk> then run it
[05:48] <colk> chmod +x rather
[05:48] <n3rdism> zambezi: the 6800 is what you want then, but then again i still can play oblivion pretty well ^^. and its a cheap card- i think its down to 120 or lower now
[05:49] <isisisis> it open gedit
[05:49] <Tommy2k4> kubuntu crashed again so when i rebooted and turned monitor off before it booted up cos i was gonna go to bed
[05:49] <Tommy2k4> and now i turn monitor on and its in zoom mode or something
[05:49] <Tommy2k4> zoomed in very far and if i move mouse to the edge of the screen it scrolls around
[05:49] <shriphani> hmm everything seems fine and faster in xfce
[05:50] <brasko> developers developers developers developers
[05:50] <Flav> wastrel: good idea, but kill -CONT, while it seemed to work (no output), the process is still stopped (and sigkill still doesn't work)
[05:50] <n3rdism> say.. i wouldnt have to restart after formating would i? i cant seem to enable hdb1 that i just formatted to ext3 and when i do admin > disks, it sitll thinks its a ntfs
[05:50] <brasko> thanks for the help
[05:50] <andrewski> shriphani: cool.
[05:50] <goatmale> isisisis now type the hard drive taht you want to accesse
[05:50] <varun> Tom39Away, ctrl,alt,+
[05:50] <Flav> wastrel: admittedly, i'm a little surprised CONT *didn't* work now that you mention it
[05:50] <billybennett> Can someone help me figure out whats taking so much space on my Ubuntu installation?  I have no idea the movies I just transcoded are only taking 12gb
[05:50] <andrewski> goatmale: you do know that isisisis already has it mounted, right?
[05:50] <varun> Tommy2k4, ctrl,alt,+
[05:50] <Zambezi> n3rdism, It depends on how much memory. I think I'll take 256 MB. Probably PCI-e, cause I'll buy AMD or Intel Core 2 Duo.
[05:50] <varun> Tom39Away, my bad
[05:50] <Tommy2k4> nothing happens
[05:50] <isisisis> andrew i am confused
[05:50] <haary> ziggin: i can't imagine that. perhaps you should try the install CD
[05:50] <goatmale> I don;t think so
[05:50] <Broadcast> ok, need serious help here
[05:50] <Broadcast> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18567
[05:50] <Zambezi> n3rdism, Btw. 120 dollars or pound?
[05:50] <isisisis> the second drive is like 160 gigs
[05:50] <Broadcast> plase
[05:50] <goatmale> I had the same error
[05:50] <varun> Tommy2k4, ctrl,alt,-?
[05:51] <Broadcast> please*
[05:51] <n3rdism> zambezi: go with amd man. and 6800 is pci-e
[05:51] <ziggin> haary: I did that first
[05:51] <Tommy2k4> nothing
[05:51] <steve_ballmer> WHO SAID SIT DOWN?!
[05:51] <n3rdism> zambei: USD
[05:51] <haary> ziggin:  http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[05:51] <andrewski> goatmale: "that it's *already mounted* as /"?
[05:51] <ziggin> ok so use server?
[05:51] <ziggin> I'll try that
[05:51] <andrewski> isisisis: i'm on the phone, but kinda here. :-P
[05:51] <ziggin> thanks
[05:51] <Tommy2k4> ill try ctrl alt backspace
[05:51] <ziggin> even though it keeps talking about SCSI
[05:51] <isisisis> andrew can u try and helpo me when your are done
[05:51] <n3rdism> zambezi: prices on the Athlon 64 are going to drop tremendously at the end of this month. youll see the 4400 down to around 200 dollars
[05:52] <haary> ziggin, yes, is#Ts the same system, but without desktop environment
[05:52] <goatmale> isisisis what is your error?
[05:52] <andrewski> O_o
[05:52] <n3rdism> zambezi: if you wanna go dual core then obviously you would go for an x2 or intel's core duo thing. but amd is definetly the way to go no matter what
[05:52] <haary> you can install it afterward with "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[05:52] <nathanj> anyone know where theres tutorial on install ubuntu on real low spec system? 366 64mb ram :d
[05:52] <isisisis> blackice@blackice-desktop:/etc$  sudo gedtit pmount.allow
[05:52] <isisisis> sudo: gedtit: command not found
[05:52] <Broadcast> sorry about that
[05:52] <Broadcast> so?
[05:52] <varun> Broadcast, why is that a problem?
[05:52] <andrewski> isisisis: no, the original error from nautilus.
[05:52] <goatmale> try gedit
[05:52] <Broadcast> did anyone check it?
[05:52] <Broadcast> what is that?
[05:52] <Zambezi> n3rdism, And Ubuntu Edgy. It will be released before I buy it. It probably cost me 1000 dollars so It will be excpensive.
[05:53] <ziggin> ok
[05:53] <varun> Broadcast, I think it means that you can't unmount /(root) and /dev (all your devices)
[05:53] <isisisis> how do i get to nautilties
[05:53] <varun> Broadcast, O
[05:53] <n3rdism> zambezi: just newegg it up :)
[05:53] <varun> Broadcast, I'm not sure what /dev/hda5 is on your system......it might be swap
[05:53] <zazeem> colk: after i chmod it what then?
[05:53] <andrewski> that's your computer, from your places menu, etc.
[05:53] <andrewski> isisisis: ^
[05:54] <Broadcast> no, it's ntfs
[05:54] <Zambezi> n3rdism, A friend hates AMD. He only got problem with his computer. So he gave me second thoughts about AMD.
[05:54] <goatmale> try cd /etc and then try sudo gedit pmount.allow
[05:54] <varun> Zambezi: AMD is solid. Maybe he had problems in the K5/K6 days
[05:54] <n3rdism> zambezi: AMD makes the best chips out there
[05:54] <isisisis> it open gedit
[05:54] <shriphani> will all ubuntu modules work on a 64 bit system ?
[05:54] <isisisis> # /etc/pmount.allow
[05:54] <isisisis> # pmount will allow users to additionally mount all devices that are
[05:54] <isisisis> # listed here.
[05:54] <varun> Broadcast: hmmm....I don't know why it wouldn't mount ntfs......do you have ntfs support in your kernel?
[05:55] <andrewski> isisisis: can you repaste your error when you double-click on the drive?
[05:55] <Broadcast> how do i know?
[05:55] <nooby_god> Can some one please have a nice ubuntu install on a 4GB HD?
[05:55] <nooby_god> Can some one have a nice ubuntu install on a 4GB HD?
[05:55] <farous> Zambezi: AMD is great for desktop for laptop go with centrino
[05:55] <zazeem> colk: after i chmod it what then?
[05:55] <andrewski> isisisis: so goatmale can see it.
[05:55] <andrewski> nooby_god: yeah, sure, i'll take two, thanks.
[05:55] <Flav> wastrel: crap - turns out it was stopped in a syscall (was reading data from a socket) - once i killed off the socket on the client machine, it returned back to user space and died fine.
[05:55] <Zambezi> n3rdism, I also get 1024 MB DDR2. And a motherboard with support for 4 GB. So I can by a pair in the future. Then I won't have problem. :-)
[05:55] <Tommy2k4> nooby_god, mine is on like a 4.7gb partition
[05:55] <isisisis> error: could not execute pmount
[05:55] <n3rdism> zambezi: if yer getting DDR2 go with amd's AM2 :D
[05:55] <nooby_god> Tommy2k4 what do you have on it?
[05:55] <wastrel> yay
[05:55] <goatmale> what is the second line isisiis?
[05:56] <andrewski> isisisis: O_o  that wasn't the error you pasted for me a while ago.
[05:56] <wastrel> flav you should write a little essay
[05:56] <varun> Broadcast: do you know how to recompile your kernel?
[05:56] <wastrel> that would be a good story for some linux mag.  a short piece :] 
[05:56] <isisisis> error: device /dev/hdb1 is already mounted to /
[05:56] <isisisis> error: could not execute pmount
[05:56] <Broadcast> no 8)
[05:56] <Zambezi> varun, He had problems with the Semptron but he overclocked it like hell. So it's probably that.
[05:56] <andrewski> goatmale: ^^ seems to be mounted already.
[05:56] <goatmale> nope
[05:56] <isisisis> for some reason this drive is my second drive and it 160 gigs not 60 like my first one on hda1
[05:56] <goatmale> I had the same problem
[05:56] <nooby_god> Tommy2k4 what do you have on it?
[05:57] <goatmale> isisisis
[05:57] <Tommy2k4> nooby_god, 300mb of music and 240mb free space
[05:57] <n3rdism> farous: idk man the turion 64 look pretty sexy
[05:57] <varun> Broadcast: let me try and pull up a linux for you
[05:57] <Tommy2k4> plus whatever apps i have installed
[05:57] <Terminus> anybody know what gcc version is used to compile the kernel?
[05:57] <goatmale> type /dev/hdb1 in the gedit window
[05:57] <goatmale> and save it
[05:57] <andrewski> isisisis: can you paste the output to 'mount -a' and 'df' to pastebin.ca?
[05:57] <varun> n3rdism: running one right now :-)
[05:57] <farous> n3rdism: i totally agree
[05:57] <Broadcast> sure
[05:57] <goatmale> do mine first isisisis
[05:57] <Broadcast> what do you mean?
[05:57] <varun> n3rdism: and the Turion X2s are gonna be even sweeter
[05:57] <Zambezi> n3rdism, I think I have to talk to you again before I buy the stuffs.
[05:57] <isisisis> ok where should i save it too
[05:57] <n3rdism> zambezi: no prob man
[05:57] <goatmale> save it to /etc
[05:57] <isisisis> and should i delete what is here
[05:57] <n3rdism> varun: i cant wait o.o;;
[05:58] <goatmale> no isisisis
[05:58] <goatmale> it should work after you reboot
[05:58] <n3rdism> hm i think im gonna restart
[05:58] <ToHellWithGA> how can i manually set the card for "multimedia systems selector"?  i know i want alsa but i alsa want it to go to the right card :/
[05:58] <andrewski> ToHellWithGA: how many do you have?
[05:58] <tach00> hey, can someone tell me how to install dreamweaver on dapper, everytime i try it says "installer interrupted before complete"
[05:58] <isisisis> so i put /dev/hdb1 after it says listen here and save it
[05:58] <n3rdism> i cant seem to enable my /dev/hdb1 but i think it has something to do with my fstab saying its ntfs still
[05:58] <n3rdism> a restart should fix this right?
[05:59] <varun> Broadcast: type modprobe ntfs at the command line
[05:59] <Rugxulo> why so many people banned?
[05:59] <andrewski> n3rdism: maybe... is it ntfs?
[05:59] <goatmale> yes isisisis
[05:59] <andrewski> n3rdism: we probably won't have to reboot, actually.
[05:59] <Broadcast> nothing happened..
[05:59] <iXiPHoCiSiXi> LINUX ROCKS MY SOCKS!
[05:59] <n3rdism> andrewski: i just formatted it to ext3
[05:59] <farous> n3rdism: you can unmount it then mount it gain
[05:59] <Zambezi> n3rdism, 400 dollars for AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz Socket AM2 1MB. But I think the prices isn't changed in Sweden yet.
[06:00] <andrewski> n3rdism: ah, ok.  yeah, change fstab, and then ... yeah, what farous just said. :)
[06:00] <isisisis> save oir save as
[06:00] <varun> Broadcast: no output?
[06:00] <Broadcast> nope
[06:00] <goatmale> just save
[06:00] <n3rdism> andrewski, farous: kk already changed fstab ^^
[06:00] <zazeem> #maverick.et please idle need support
[06:00] <n3rdism> zambezi: if you got a 5000 x2 i would bow to you lol
[06:00] <Flav> wastrel: wrote up a quick blog post, so maybe it'll hit in google if someone else has a similar problem :)
[06:00] <isisisis> ok done so now i n eed to reboot
[06:00] <goatmale> yes and come back
[06:00] <isisisis> ok brb
[06:00] <isisisis> dude
[06:00] <sharms> zazeem: how about no.
[06:00] <farous> n3rdism: changing fstab do not automatically umount the devices
[06:01] <n3rdism> farous: yup
[06:01] <n3rdism> i know lol
[06:01] <farous> ok
[06:01] <n3rdism> my fstab is changed
[06:01] <zazeem> ?
[06:01] <farous> just checking
[06:01] <tach00> hey, can someone tell me how to install dreamweaver on dapper, everytime i try it says "installer interrupted before complete"
[06:01] <andrewski> n3rdism: umount then mount?
[06:01] <evtorb> I have ubuntu drapper. I set up a printer but I can't print from console. How do I set it up?
[06:01] <zazeem> woops that was to quakener not this
[06:01] <n3rdism> erm
[06:01] <andrewski> !patience > tach00
[06:01] <zazeem> how do i not spam u guys
[06:01] <n3rdism> ok.. unmount is saying its not mounted
[06:02] <Zambezi> n3rdism, I think that's a good processor.
[06:02] <sharms> zazeem: quit this channel.
[06:02] <andrewski> n3rdism: cool, then mount it. ;)
[06:02] <n3rdism> mount says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1
[06:02] <andrewski> n3rdism: what's in fstab now?
[06:02] <goatmale> I got the same error ans nerdism
[06:02] <andrewski> goatmale: wow, you get every error, eh?
[06:03] <goatmale> yup
[06:03] <goatmale> only with this HD
[06:03] <raskolnikov> i restarted my computer and now it gives me an error when i try to log in
[06:03] <raskolnikov> can someone help?
[06:03] <andrewski> raskolnikov: only if you post the error. :)
[06:03] <blackice> i am back
[06:03] <blackice> i restarted
[06:03] <k0rq> i too require assistance
[06:03] <goatmale> blackice are you isisisis?
[06:04] <Dark_Knight_209> whats the difference between a 64 bit and a 32 bit processor?
[06:04] <blackice> tes
[06:04] <blackice> yes
[06:04] <n3rdism> andrewski: its trying to boot it as ntfs still..
[06:04] <goatmale> does it work now?
[06:04] <andrewski> blackice: how'd it go?
[06:04] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: the amount of memory you can access
[06:04] <raskolnikov> iit gives me (~/.xsession-errors file) andrewski
[06:04] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: in some cases performance
[06:04] <shriphani> guys is crossover office free ?
[06:04] <Zambezi> n3rdism, It's changed. 915 dollar in another store.
[06:04] <andrewski> shriphani: no
[06:04] <ToHellWithGA> i need to pick a sound card and the "sound preferences" thing does not work.  how can i do that?
[06:04] <blackice> i didnt fully reboot thought
[06:04] <Dark_Knight_209> would it be something worth looking into for someone whos not a gamer?
[06:04] <andrewski> ToHellWithGA: do you need to have both able to work?
[06:04] <n3rdism> andrewski: /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ext3    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:04] <n3rdism> look normal?
[06:04] <farous> Zambezi: by the way prepare your self for bumpy ride till 64 bit has better support on linux which should be soon though
[06:04] <goatmale> me too tohellwithGA
[06:05] <raskolnikov> and when i click details it says /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default:
[06:05] <shriphani> hmm so i think keygens are available ?
[06:05] <farous> n3rdism: did you try sudo mount -a
[06:05] <andrewski> goatmale: hypochondriac?
[06:05] <raskolnikov> /etc/gdm/Xsession: beginning session setup
[06:05] <andrewski> n3rdism: hrm... seems ok, but maybe the flags are no good?
[06:05] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: I don't think you get 32 bit procs anymore......all AMD's chips are 64 bit............and I think all Intel's new ones are, too
[06:05] <raskolnikov> mkdtemp: private socket dir: persmission denied
[06:05] <goatmale> haha nope. I have a really crazy computer
[06:05] <raskolnikov> do you know how to fix it andrewski ?
[06:05] <ToHellWithGA> andrewski: i'd like both to work, but i could deal with just one.  unfortunately that one is not my default and disabling the other in BIOS makes the PC unbootable
[06:05] <n3rdism> farous: same issue
[06:05] <andrewski> raskolnikov: not offhand.
[06:05] <raskolnikov> what does it mean?
[06:06] <andrewski> raskolnikov: don't know... offhand.
[06:06] <theBishop> is there any programs that will rip DVDs to the PSP mpeg4 AVC format?
[06:06] <farous> n3rdism: I think it did not umount probably perhaps as you said you need a reboot
[06:06] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: getting a 64 bit proc future proofs you, too
[06:06] <k0rq> help: Xorg is ignoring the XkbLayout option, instead it uses the console keymap
[06:06] <andrewski> theBishop: thoggen may help you.
[06:06] <goatmale> andrewski can I PM you?
[06:06] <n3rdism> farous: i will try that. brb
[06:06] <Dark_Knight_209> i looking into getting a laptop, anyone have any expperience with 64 bit on a laptop?
[06:06] <andrewski> goatmale: ok
[06:06] <theBishop> andrewski, thoggen doesn't seem to have a PSP profile
[06:06] <Zambezi> farous, That's why I wait a little bit. At least after Edgy is released.
[06:06] <andrewski> theBishop: ok, that's all i know.
[06:07] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: running one right now
[06:07] <theBishop> andrewski, thanks anyway man
[06:07] <raskolnikov> and i cant log into anything , kde, gnome, enlightenment nothing
[06:07] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: I'd say get a Turion X2 based laptop if you have the money
[06:07] <k0rq> Xorg is ignoring the XkbLayout option, instead it uses the console keymap?
[06:07] <Dark_Knight_209> i'll spend around 2,000 2,500
[06:07] <farous> Zambezi: hopefully by then though i think it might take little longer
[06:07] <k0rq> anyone?
[06:08] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know why Ubuntu likes to randomly mount then attempt to write to NTFS partitions?
[06:08] <Zambezi> farous, Do you have any idea how long it can take?
[06:08] <Flav> wastrel: likely a dumb question, but are symbols (in a separate package, i'd guess) available for most bits?  I'm running into a problem with the recent php4 security update to hoary and i'm trying to get debugging symbols, ideally for those bits - Reading symbols from /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
[06:08] <morgan> what the risk?
[06:08] <farous> Zambezi: am just guessing
[06:08] <andrewski> k0rq: what's set in xorg.conf?  can you paste that line?
[06:08] <Corporal_Dirge> Ubuntu has borked 3 NTFS partitions.
[06:08] <isisisis> nope it didnt work
[06:08] <goatmale> :(
[06:08] <goatmale> try mounting it and unmounting it
[06:08] <k0rq> Option "XkbLayout" "ee" i think
[06:08] <n3rdism> farous: err nope >.<
[06:09] <wenko2> k0rq: nick=callsign?
[06:09] <andrewski> k0rq: what's ee?  i'm not sure. :-/
[06:09] <wastrel> Flav:  i'm not a developer - dunno :] 
[06:09] <farous> n3rdism: still having probl
[06:09] <isisisis> maybe i should try it in root prompt
[06:09] <k0rq> the console keymap is colemak from colemak.com
[06:09] <FliesLikeALap> where does proftpd save its logs by default?
[06:09] <goatmale> some one help me with this error::    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1
[06:09] <k0rq> ee for estonian
[06:09] <n3rdism> farous: yah, im going to see what i can do w/ fstab
[06:09] <andrewski> k0rq: ok.  running gnome?
[06:09] <k0rq> but it completely ignores it
[06:09] <k0rq> no
[06:09] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: hp has some badass Turion X2 based laptops......I would go for those
[06:10] <andrewski> k0rq: what's it use?  qwerty?
[06:10] <Corporal_Dirge> I need somw help mounting a HDD.
[06:10] <Dark_Knight_209> hp seems like my best bet
[06:10] <Flav> anyone know where Ubuntu security advisories are posted? (similar to the ones for Debian listed on security.debian.org)
[06:10] <goatmale> I can try to help corporal dirge
[06:10] <farous> n3rdism: i do not think the prob is with fstab, if the error is wrong file sys then it is prob wrong file sys
[06:10] <andrewski> Flav: search google for "ubuntu security notice"
[06:10] <k0rq> x uses the console keymap..
[06:10] <farous> good luck though
[06:10] <Corporal_Dirge> goatmale, Have any experience troubleshooting  it?
[06:10] <kinabalu> whats the command with apt-get to list packages avaialble?
[06:11] <andrewski> n3rdism: can you comment the line out of fstab?
[06:11] <Flav> andrewski: ah, seems to be http://www.ubuntu.com/usn - thanks!
[06:11] <goatmale> not really but I can try, just post it in channel
[06:11] <andrewski> Flav: np, had to look it up earlier. :)
[06:11] <Dark_Knight_209> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[06:11] <Dark_Knight_209> ubuntu security &_&
[06:11] <n3rdism> hahahah i got it
[06:11] <andrewski> n3rdism: ?
[06:11] <isisisis> before i right mouse click and i can mount the drive to my desktop
[06:11] <n3rdism> yah it was the fstab
[06:11] <Corporal_Dirge> I have a HDD with a 3GB partition that I can't mount.
[06:11] <n3rdism> i still had the flags from the ntfs on there
[06:11] <morgan> what is the command to upgrade ubuntu 5 to upgrade to 6?
[06:12] <Libra102> hello..
[06:12] <tritium> !upgrade
[06:12] <andrewski> n3rdism: told ya so :-P
[06:12] <goatmale> what is the error dirge?
[06:12] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:12] <k0rq> andrewski: when i change the console keymap with install-keymap the xorg keymap changes too
[06:12] <Libra102> how can mp3 to dcf ?
[06:12] <n3rdism> so i just copied what the root flags were and it fixed it
[06:12] <n3rdism> andrewski: yar :D
[06:12] <morgan> thanks
[06:12] <n3rdism> andrewski and farous: thanks doods ^^
[06:12] <Corporal_Dirge> no error.
[06:12] <Broadcast> whats that.
[06:12] <Broadcast> ./configure --enable-fuse-module && make && sudo make install
[06:12] <k0rq> andrewski: im running edgy btw
[06:12] <andrewski> n3rdism: cheers
[06:12] <Corporal_Dirge> Just doesn't mount.
[06:12] <n3rdism> k0rq: how are you liking it?
[06:12] <shriphani> guys does ubuntu plan to ship the upgrade cds at the next release ?
[06:12] <Libra102> I have mobile ... how can  I mp3 to dcf ?
[06:12] <farous> n3rdism: great :)
[06:12] <k0rq> liking edgy?
[06:13] <n3rdism> yah
[06:13] <andrewski> k0rq: that's beyond me; it's unstable and you're using an unofficial keymap.  sorry, good luck.
[06:13] <goatmale> did you try sudo mount and then the harddrive?
[06:13] <k0rq> well it's a bit unstable for my tastes
[06:13] <linux_user400354> something is wrong with archive manager in ubuntu. it seems to have many bugs.
[06:13] <isisisis> ok i can open my hdb1 in media
[06:13] <n3rdism> duh lolol
[06:13] <Corporal_Dirge> goatmale, Yes.
[06:13] <goatmale> n3rdish was your mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[06:13] <varun> shriphani: apt-get upgradte
[06:13] <Dark_Knight_209> anyone know of a gui answer to open ace files?
[06:13] <andrewski> shriphani: yup
[06:13] <k0rq> andrewski: even if use the official keymaps the problem persists
[06:13] <n3rdism> goatmale: yup
[06:13] <goatmale> dirge try pmount
[06:13] <ighost> is there a method in rails that pluralizes a word based on a parameter?
[06:13] <goatmale> how did you fix it?
[06:13] <isisisis> media idedesk is my second hd
[06:13] <shriphani> varun but i run a crap 4 kbps connection
[06:13] <shriphani> 64 ^
[06:13] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: what error did you get when mounting?
[06:14] <shriphani> and the upgrade is 500+ Mb
[06:14] <isisisis> but i would like it in my computer
[06:14] <Dark_Knight_209> 64?
[06:14] <n3rdism> goatmale: mocking the flags from the root ext3 (same filetype as the partition i just formatted)
[06:14] <Dark_Knight_209> wow
[06:14] <varun> shriphani: damn.....sorry........
[06:14] <andrewski> shriphani: i got mine a few weeks back.
[06:14] <Dark_Knight_209> i forget what it's lke to be on a slow connection...
[06:14] <Dark_Knight_209> cable ^_^
[06:14] <shriphani> the alternate cd for upgrading andrewski ?
[06:14] <goatmale> how do I do that...? n3rd?
[06:14] <andrewski> shriphani: a dapper cd.  you can use it for upgrading, yes.
[06:14] <n3rdism> goatmale: pastebin your fstab
[06:14] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: I used to live in India, on dial-up........7 KBps and I'm cream myself
[06:15] <evtorb> I have ubuntu drapper. I set up a printer but I can't print from console. How do I set it up? Please Tell me?
[06:15] <goatmale> how do I do that?
[06:15] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: still there?
[06:15] <varun> s/I'm/I'd
[06:15] <k0rq> does Xorg have a irc channel
[06:15] <n3rdism> !pastebine
[06:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:15] <n3rdism> !pastebin
[06:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:15] <Dark_Knight_209> hey, anyone ever get a free cd from ubuntu?
[06:15] <shriphani> oh so i plainly do a sudo apt cdrom add and then apt-get dist-upgrade -y ?
[06:15] <Corporal_Dirge> I'm here, trying several diffrent options
[06:15] <andrewski> Dark_Knight_209: yes
[06:15] <n3rdism> lol
[06:15] <Dark_Knight_209> how long does it take?
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> Dark_Knight_209, yes
[06:15] <andrewski> Dark_Knight_209: a few weeks
[06:15] <shriphani> Dark_Knight_209, mine came by mail
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> many... weeks
[06:15] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: my buddy got 12 and handed them out to all of us
[06:15] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, Typing wit  arm in a sling is slow.
[06:15] <goatmale> pastebin what n3rd?
[06:15] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: ok
[06:16] <shriphani> it comes sloowly though
[06:16] <n3rdism> goatmale: /etc/fstab
[06:16] <Dark_Knight_209> i wish i had friends interested in linux in this town
[06:16] <isisisis> there is only my second hard drive in my computter not the first one
[06:16] <isisisis> the second hd is in media ide desk
[06:16] <varun> shriphani: I'd use synaptic
[06:16] <andrewski> n3rdism: by the way, you can try "!pastebin > n3rdism" so the whole channel doesn't see it; it gets PMed to the person.
[06:16] <shriphani> Dark_Knight_209, 90 % of indians here still think linux is a programming language
[06:16] <Dark_Knight_209> it seems there are either morons, or avid windows users
[06:16] <andrewski> tritium showed me that. ^_^
[06:16] <tritium> :)
[06:17] <n3rdism> andrewsky: yah i guess, some people dont check their pm's tho lol
[06:17] <varun> shriphani: 90% of Indian's haven't even heard of Linux :-)
[06:17] <Dark_Knight_209> shriphani, don't laugh but i thought it was a program for windows :-p
[06:17] <shriphani> when i told them what ubuntu was i got a question whether a comp. can run anything that isnt microsoft
[06:17] <andrewski> n3rdism: then we slap them with a trout.  i have an extra; lemme know if you need it.
[06:17] <isisisis> can someone help me
[06:17] <goatmale> I think i did it right
[06:17] <goatmale> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18568
[06:17] <n3rdism> lol
[06:17] <andrewski> isisisis: ask
[06:18] <shriphani> and the linux desktop managers are much better than the windblows brag
[06:18] <mooey> heh wow
[06:18] <varun> isisisis: unless you want the path to world peace, I'm sure someone can ;-)
[06:18] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, Ok, I thing it doesn't know the type. But I formatted vfat again and tried mounting and it still doesn't accept.
[06:18] <Dark_Knight_209> i asked someone what it was in a yahoo chat room.
[06:18] <gino> alguien de lima peru
[06:18] <isisisis> my first hd is in /mnt and my second hd is in media/ide-disk
[06:18] <Dark_Knight_209> oh how have times changed
[06:18] <`DaGuy> Linux,  when I got my cd somebody ask if it was a religion
[06:18] <goatmale> n3rd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18568
[06:18] <n3rdism> i got it
[06:18] <nathanj> does anyone know where a howto is on to install fluxbox from a server install?
[06:18] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: i need the error message to help you.
[06:18] <lefthanded> it is a religion :P
[06:18] <varun> nathan: apt-get install fluxbox ?
[06:18] <mooey> i just ran the ubuntu dapper installer for the first time - combining the installer & live cd is genious. i can browse the net whilst waiting for it to copy files! :)
[06:18] <isisisis> i can access the second drive but i want to be able to click on it from my computer
[06:19] <n3rdism> goatmale: yah dood, you only have one partition well 2 including swap
[06:19] <Dark_Knight_209> apt-get then boom flux ^_^
[06:19] <andrewski> mooey: it's amazing.  better and easier than windows xp, i'd say.
[06:19] <`DaGuy> not where I live ... reading is still up for grabs
[06:19] <Corporal_Dirge> `DaGuy, That's DiaLinux, By Torvalis Hubbard
[06:19] <goatmale> n3rd what does that mean?
[06:19] <shriphani> and i am 15 now and thanks to a couple of linux zealots a home i grew up with linux
[06:19] <Corporal_Dirge> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[06:19] <Corporal_Dirge>        missing codepage or other error
[06:19] <Corporal_Dirge>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[06:19] <Corporal_Dirge>        dmesg | tail  or so
[06:19] <mooey> andrewski: certainly is. i've played with suse the last few days and the ubuntu installer shits all over it :)
[06:19] <`DaGuy> Thanx
[06:19] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: a lot of people I know don't even know what an OS is......I have to say "It's like Windows, but written by someone else"
[06:19] <varun> shriphani: which city?
[06:19] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: what did you type?
[06:19] <goatmale> n3rd how can I fix the error?
[06:19] <shriphani> varun, hyderabad
[06:19] <n3rdism> goatmale: swap is what your system uses as cache basically - so you wanna leave that one alone. and your other partition is the one your system is on and is being used right now
[06:20] <andrewski> mooey: interesting; i've heard good things about suse install.
[06:20] <iXiPHoCiSiXi> SUSE HAS SOOO MANY CD'S THOUGH
[06:20] <Dark_Knight_209> i say, it's like windows only for people who enjoy using their system with out crashes!
[06:20] <varun> shriphani: yea the FOSS scene is pretty active there.....I used to be on the FSF mailing lists
[06:20] <iXiPHoCiSiXi> i like ubuntu cus its one cd..
[06:20] <andrewski> iXiPHoCiSiXi: yeah
[06:20] <Dark_Knight_209> 4+ months running and no reboots ^_^
[06:20] <n3rdism> goatmale: so what exactly were you trying to do?
[06:20] <shriphani> :)
[06:20] <raskolnikov> i'm having trouble logging into gnome
[06:20] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: XP hasn't crash on me in 4 years :-)
[06:20] <mooey> andrewski, it works. but it dosen't let me browse the net while files copy over :)
[06:20] <raskolnikov> can anyone help
[06:20] <iXiPHoCiSiXi> I LOVE FEDORA, DONT GET ME WRONG..but im still learning linux
[06:20] <andrewski> mooey: lol
[06:20] <iXiPHoCiSiXi> so i do alot of reinstalling
[06:20] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, I've tried sudo mount /dev/sda1; sudo mount -t <diffrent types> /dev/sda1; etc etc
[06:20] <iXiPHoCiSiXi> one cd=god.
[06:20] <n3rdism> caps lock o.o
[06:20] <Madpilot> iXiPHoCiSiXi, ease up on the ALL CAPS, please...
[06:21] <shriphani> and i was intoduced to windblows at school
[06:21] <Dark_Knight_209> i got a blue screen on xp, imaxed my memory to it's limits
[06:21] <iXiPHoCiSiXi> i cant get this wholee XGL thing to work..
[06:21] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, Also sudo mount -a
[06:21] <iXiPHoCiSiXi> so i reinstall ubuntu like 10 times per week lol
[06:21] <andrewski> iXiPHoCiSiXi: you and a lot of people.
[06:21] <goatmale> trying to accese another HD that I have that I just formatted, I got an error mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[06:21] <iXiPHoCiSiXi> now i just gave up
[06:21] <linux_user400354> whoever told me ftp users could use symbolic links was wrong
[06:21] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: what's in fstab for this drive?
[06:21] <n3rdism> goatmale: which one did you just format?
[06:21] <Corporal_Dirge> fstab?
[06:21] <Dark_Knight_209> goatmale, you gotta reboot after a format don't you?
[06:21] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: nevermind.  can you run gparted and see what it says about this partition?
[06:22] <goatmale> ...opps
[06:22] <goatmale> maybe that will work.
[06:22] <andrewski> Dark_Knight_209: don't think so...
[06:22] <n3rdism> goatmale: which one did you reformat?
[06:22] <isisisis> thanks for your help
[06:22] <goatmale> dev/hdb1
[06:22] <isisisis> guess u guys are bussy
[06:22] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, Yes, I also tried clicking "enable" in "Disks"
[06:22] <Dark_Knight_209> well, for me converting a ntfs hd to ext 2 i had to reboot
[06:22] <andrewski> isisisis: can you tell? :-P
[06:22] <varun> isisisis: I didn't understand the problem
[06:23] <andrewski> isisisis: it's always crazy here, i've found.
[06:23] <n3rdism> goatmale: which filetype?
[06:23] <varun> isisisis: could you restate it?
[06:23] <gino> hi
[06:23] <Dark_Knight_209> high ^_^
[06:23] <andrewski> Dark_Knight_209: that's the simplest way, but you don't have to.
[06:23] <goatmale> how do I find that out?
[06:23] <ToHellWithGA> how can i select a sound card?
[06:23] <shriphani> hell people here dont know what an ipod is
[06:23] <zazeem> how do i gain permission to add files into my locked folders?? how do i become root and move files into the folders that say i dont have permissions?
[06:23] <n3rdism> goatmale: when you formatted the drive; which filetype did you make it?
[06:23] <Dark_Knight_209> rolls*
[06:23] <goatmale> I didn't
[06:23] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, What do you want me to do in gparted?
[06:23] <varun> zazeem: sudo ?
[06:23] <goatmale> I just said sudo mkfst or whatever the command was
[06:24] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: tell me what it lists as the properties of the sda1.
[06:24] <isisisis> when i click on my computer u know h ow i cant mount my drive will in / filesystem media it says ide disk and i can access my second drive
[06:24] <varun> isisisis: ok
[06:24] <ToHellWithGA> somebody offered to help me disable a sound card while i was mousing around and i accidentally closed irssi
[06:24] <ToHellWithGA> was that you, andrew?
[06:24] <zazeem> varun: sudo what though? i cant just go into my filesystem and add files by drag and drop?
[06:24] <zazeem> varun: sudo what though? is there a cmd?
[06:24] <isisisis> but i would like to do it so when i click on my computer  and click on the drive it will open
[06:24] <Corporal_Dirge> /dev/sda1 3GB fat32 not mounted
[06:25] <varun> Zambezi: I don't think you can do it in a GUI, you might have to do it from the command line
[06:25] <goatmale> n3rd still there?
[06:25] <andrewski> ToHellWithGA: i was thinking BIOS... did i say anything else?
[06:25] <n3rdism> goatmale: i suggest you use gparted
[06:25] <varun> zazeem:  I don't think you can do it in a GUI, you might have to do it from the command line
[06:25] <varun> Zambezi: damn, my bad
[06:25] <goatmale> what's that?
[06:25] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, /dev/sda1 3GB fat32 not mounted
[06:25] <n3rdism> goatmale: its a moree userfriendly formating tool
[06:25] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: ok, hold on
[06:25] <goatmale> do I need to apt-get it?
[06:25] <ToHellWithGA> andrewski: if i disable the onboard sound in BIOS the computer won't get past POST.  isn't that weird?
[06:25] <n3rdism> goatmale: just sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:26] <shriphani> n3rdism, i have troubles telling gparted to resize or create stuff from my primary drive
[06:26] <n3rdism> goatmale: then gparted and it will open it up for you
[06:26] <andrewski> ToHellWithGA: yes, sounds fishy to me.  integrated card on the motherboard?
[06:26] <zazeem> varun: how do i do it in cmd line?
[06:26] <shriphani> or primary partition
[06:26] <nathanj> does anyone know how to get x up and running on a server install?
[06:26] <varun> zazeem: sudo cp source destination ?
[06:26] <ToHellWithGA> andrewski: the integrated card is junk but i have a nice M-Audio card
[06:26] <n3rdism> shriphani: you probably shouldnt be messing around with your system partition then
[06:26] <andrewski> ToHellWithGA: which have you tried to disable?
[06:26] <shriphani> yes
[06:26] <varun> nathanj: did you look up docs? I don't know much about server installs
[06:26] <Broadcast> hey
[06:27] <Broadcast> please
[06:27] <Broadcast> i need help
[06:27] <n3rdism> shriphani: get it how you want it and then install
[06:27] <ToHellWithGA> andrewski: disabling the crummy onboard sound prevents the machine from booting
[06:27] <varun> Broadcast: still the ntfs problem?
[06:27] <Broadcast> yeah
[06:27] <ToHellWithGA> is there a way to disable it from linux rather than in BIOS?
[06:27] <Broadcast> gives me that error
[06:27] <isisisis> ok will i am going maybe i will come back and try this again
[06:27] <Broadcast> ntfs-3g /dev/(your partition like hda1 or sda1) /mnt/(mount point)
[06:27] <nathanj> varun: im trying to install on cel 366 with 64mb so i installed server (minimal) and now i want x and fluxbox (or small footprint x)
[06:27] <tritium> Broadcast: please remember about enter/punctuation
[06:27] <ToHellWithGA> to say "don't start this thing"
[06:27] <Broadcast> sorry
[06:27] <isisisis> thanks for helping me
[06:27] <Broadcast> Windows did not shut down properly.  Try to mount volume in windows, shut down and try again.
[06:27] <andrewski> ToHellWithGA: strange.  i don't know much about onboard cards.
[06:27] <Broadcast> i dont know what that means
[06:27] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: can you post the output of 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1'?
[06:27] <varun> Broadcast: did you search google?
[06:27] <Broadcast> yeah
[06:27] <Broadcast> nothing
[06:28] <isisisis> bye guys and girls
[06:28] <goatmale> bye isisiis
[06:28] <andrewski> bye isisisis
[06:28] <goatmale> sorry I couldn't help
[06:28] <shriphani> although i got myself another drive recently , and that one had drivelocks on it, it came from a compaq lappy. but linux sorta let it work
[06:28] <goatmale> n3rd what do I do now that I got it running?
[06:28] <cpk2> !ask
[06:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:28] <isisisis> i will try t ommarow hopefully someone can help me
[06:28] <varun> nathanj: if you do apt-get install fluxbox, I think it will download the x stuff as a dependency
[06:29] <varun> Broadcast: I dunno man........modprobe ntfs didn't give you anything?
[06:29] <Broadcast> no
[06:29] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, It doesn't work. It shows the default options error.
[06:29] <Broadcast> whats  ntfsfix /dev/hdaX
[06:29] <n3rdism> goatmale: click the drive select dropdown on the top right of the program and select the hdb1
[06:29] <varun> Broadcast: beats me
[06:29] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: can you paste the error, please?
[06:29] <varun> Broadcast: you might have to add ntfs support to your kernel
[06:29] <n3rdism> goatmale: then set up the partition table for hdb1 and format it for your choice of filetype: i suggest ext3
[06:30] <Broadcast> how do i do that varun
[06:30] <Corporal_Dirge> It's long and it's the same error I's get if I typed "sudo mount me"
[06:30] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: i can't help if you can't paste.
[06:30] <varun> Broadcast: search google for "recompile kernel ubuntu" or something like that, I'm sure you'll find instructions
[06:30] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, pasting....
[06:31] <Corporal_Dirge> !pastebin
[06:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:31] <goatmale> wait
[06:31] <goatmale> hbd1 is already formatted
[06:31] <varun> Broadcast: lemme know if you have specific questions, the whole thing is really too much to type :-)
[06:31] <n3rdism> goatmale: what file type??
[06:31] <goatmale> what does swap mean>
[06:31] <n3rdism> !swap > goatmale
[06:31] <nathanj> varun: ill givew it a whirl
[06:31] <Broadcast> lol
[06:31] <n3rdism> check pm
[06:31] <Broadcast> yeah
[06:31] <n3rdism> or you get the tuna
[06:31] <andrewski> tuna!
[06:31] <varun> nathanj: lemme know if that works
[06:31] <Broadcast> well, what do i need to change in the kernel
[06:31] <{alejandro}> hey a query
[06:32] <n3rdism> lolol
[06:32] <varun> !swap > varun
[06:32] <{alejandro}> who here is good with mac stuff
[06:32] <goatmale> !postdump
[06:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about postdump - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:32] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18569
[06:32] <varun> damn that's badass
[06:32] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: thanks Corporal_Dirge
[06:32] <{alejandro}> I need to know if I can mount the UFS found in Darwin/Mac OS X in Linux
[06:32] <n3rdism> calling it ufs you would think you would be able to ;)
[06:33] <n3rdism> !ufs
[06:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about ufs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:33] <varun> !women
[06:33] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[06:33] <n3rdism> lol
[06:33] <n3rdism> women-linux-howto lmao
[06:33] <varun> no effing way
[06:33] <varun> lol
[06:33] <n3rdism> giggidy giggidy
[06:33] <{alejandro}> yeah, see, no info
[06:34] <Terminus> hello. i just restarted my computer and now X won't start. i'm getting an "mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied" error. anybody know why?
[06:34] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: oh man, it's late.  i'm sorry. O_o  we need to tell it where to mount. :)
[06:34] <goatmale> n3rd here is a screeen shot
[06:34] <varun> {alejandro}:  http://ufs-linux.sourceforge.net/
[06:34] <goatmale> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18570
[06:34] <varun> {alejandro}: it was the first result when I searched google for "linux ufs"
[06:34] <{alejandro}> varun is that in repos
[06:34] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /path/where/you/want/it'
[06:34] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: i'm sorry.
[06:34] <varun> {alejandro}: did you search in synaptic for "ufs"?
[06:35] <{alejandro}> yeah but thing is, it mostly pertains to bsd
[06:35] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, Does 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt work?
[06:35] <{alejandro}> I am wondering if the Apple-specific one works
[06:35] <goatmale> n3rd did you get the link?
[06:35] <{alejandro}> since it is case insensitive etc.
[06:35] <n3rdism> goatmale: yar
[06:35] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: no, you'd want /mnt/disc or something.  you may have to 'mkdir /mnt/disc' first
[06:35] <{alejandro}> it's a ufs that acts like hfs+ which is annoying
[06:36] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: /mnt is the place for all mounted drives, so that'd be a problem.
[06:36] <goatmale> what do you make of it?
[06:36] <{alejandro}> well isn't /mnt kinda deprecated
[06:36] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: brb
[06:36] <Corporal_Dirge> k
[06:36] <{alejandro}> Ubuntu uses /media
[06:36] <andrewski> {alejandro}: you can mount anything wherever you want. :-P
[06:36] <{alejandro}> right
[06:36] <Terminus> i mean i can't login to gnome but X starts fine.
[06:37] <andrewski> {alejandro}: but you're right...
[06:37] <{alejandro}> you put your crap in /mnt
[06:37] <{alejandro}> but CDs and such go in /media
[06:37] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: maybe you'd prefer to put this in /media/disc instead?
[06:37] <n3rdism> goatmale: you made an extended partition, you prolly shoulda just kept it primary
[06:37] <nathanj> varun: fluxbox doesnt have x as a depend
[06:37] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: up to you, really.
[06:37] <nathanj> varun: what about installing xfce?
[06:37] <{alejandro}> if you are manually doing it I suggest /mnt
[06:37] <goatmale> I didn't mean to
[06:37] <{alejandro}> and let all the automagic stuff happen in /media
[06:37] <n3rdism> goatmale: but thats your swap so dont worry about that
[06:37] <andrewski> {alejandro}: that's my rule too.
[06:38] <Dark_Knight_209> apt-cache search xorg
[06:38] <n3rdism> goatmale: you see the /dev/hda (19.14 GB) on the top right?
[06:38] <Dark_Knight_209> :-p
[06:38] <nathanj> varun: xubuntu-desktop takes another gb of space
[06:38] <goatmale> yes
[06:38] <n3rdism> goatmale: click that and look for /dev/hdb as an option
[06:38] <jackson> I just updated me nvidia-glx drivers and now my glx is broken! glxinfo returns "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." on a few lines. /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/754398 /etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/754426-
[06:38] <shadeofgrey> your never going to believe this everybody...  my unclke bought me an xbox 360
[06:38] <shadeofgrey> does anybody here own one as well?
[06:38] <shriphani> damn nathanj 1 gig ????
[06:38] <varun> nathanj: are you serious?
[06:39] <shriphani> the download was 48 Mb
[06:39] <nathanj> varun: yeah :s
[06:39] <nathanj> varun: i guess xubuntu-desktop includes a lot of mainstream desktop req
[06:39] <goatmale> got it n3rd
[06:39] <shriphani> and i am sure ubuntu reported that 128 MB of diskspace would be used
[06:39] <andrewski> !nvidia > jackson
[06:39] <shadeofgrey> 1 gig is nothing -- totally decompressed windows vista beta 2 takes 23 gig of space
[06:39] <n3rdism> goatmale: kk
[06:39] <nathanj> varun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[06:39] <goatmale> now  what
[06:39] <goatmale> another screen shot
[06:40] <n3rdism> {alejandro}: check out this thread.. might help you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-198289.html
[06:40] <snorre> I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 6.06 with a full upgrade.  After checking that everything went ok, I shut down the system and removed the CDROM drive.
[06:40] <n3rdism> goatmale: sure
[06:40] <n3rdism> shriphani: whats wrong with gnome?
[06:40] <Dark_Knight_209> 23 gigs?
[06:40] <shriphani> diskspace ??
[06:41] <snorre> But now it won't start, it stops when trying to mount the root file system.  Any ideas what happened here?
[06:41] <master5o1> Hi all...
[06:41] <Dark_Knight_209> what vista will never touch my hands
[06:41] <{alejandro}> pain
[06:41] <Dark_Knight_209> http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6379/untitledin7.png
[06:41] <Corporal_Dirge> What's the command to delete a directory?
[06:41] <Corporal_Dirge> rmdir?
[06:41] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: yes
[06:41] <Dark_Knight_209> my screen, i'm a tad bored..
[06:41] <n3rdism> {alejandro}: did you get that link?
[06:42] <{alejandro}> n3rdism, I am actually using an amd64 box. I have an old OSX hard drive I want to salvage
[06:42] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, I can't seem to mkdir anywhere.
[06:42] <master5o1> "rm -R" doesn;t that remove dir and contents?
[06:42] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: use sudo
[06:42] <n3rdism> dark_knight_209: i love blender XD lol
[06:42] <master5o1> I have my own website now... (http://master5o1.co.nr)
[06:42] <andrewski> master5o1: yes, that would.
[06:42] <Corporal_Dirge> dirge@Dirge:~$ sudo mkdir MobileDrive
[06:42] <Corporal_Dirge> dirge@Dirge:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/MobileDrive
[06:42] <Corporal_Dirge> mount: mount point /media/MobileDrive does not exist
[06:42] <tmccrary> hey, I am using wvdial to connect to my cell phone providers EVDO network. It connects fine and I can ping anything, however as soon as I try to browse the web, the connection dies. Apparently this is a bug in the kernel, does anyone know when this is going to be fixed??? it works in windows!
[06:42] <snorre> It boots fine in recovery mode though, so I guess it must be something wrong with grub after removing the cdrom drive
[06:43] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: you're making a dir in your home directory.
[06:43] <snorre> Anyone?
[06:43] <tmccrary> ALso, I'm using bluetooth ftw
[06:43] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: try mkdir /media/MobileDrive
[06:43] <n3rdism> {alejandro}: dont think ill be of much help sry :(
[06:43] <Corporal_Dirge> ug, I'm sleepy
[06:43] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: i hear that.
[06:44] <{alejandro}> yeah I am probably just gonna have to use another mac to get at it
[06:44] <{alejandro}> oh well
[06:44] <varun> {alejandro}:  google a bit, I'm surey you'll find something
[06:44] <zazeem> how do i move files as root to locked drives
[06:44] <zazeem> ?
[06:44] <drgonzo> hello all, I followed this guide using method 2, for my latest own compiled kernel. I have a nvidia fx5200 card. Anyway I don't really play games So i havn't had to really test the card, but I assumed everything was working.. Today I loaded up scorched3d and its running very sluggishly. I then tested some other games and all the 3d games ran really bad, like the driver isn't properly installed.
[06:44] <goatmale> what's the
[06:44] <n3rdism> where can i find the system icons - for instance the harddrive one?
[06:44] <{alejandro}> varun I have been
[06:44] <goatmale> postdump
[06:44] <varun> zazeem: what is a locked drive?
[06:44] <drgonzo> this guide being http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[06:44] <{alejandro}> it's one of those "obscure" problems
[06:44] <n3rdism> !postdump > goatmale
[06:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about postdump  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:45] <drgonzo> I'm using the driver, I'
[06:45] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, Ok, how can I mount it to where I have write privilege?
[06:45] <zazeem> i dont know
[06:45] <n3rdism> !icon
[06:45] <varun> {alejandro}: damn......didn't think it would be that obscure
[06:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about icon - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:45] <zazeem> i dont have permission to write to them
[06:45] <zazeem> or edit them
[06:45] <zazeem> they have a lock on them
[06:45] <drgonzo> I'm sure of that, I have my resolution running rather high. It's just not utilising the card properly ....
[06:45] <varun> zazeem: how do you know?
[06:45] <hippie23> does anybody know how to disable shift+backspace, its soooooo annoying, I have a bad habbit of typing caps, then go to correct a spelling error, and forget to take my finger off shift and hit backspace, restart the x server.. im so sick of that
[06:45] <zazeem> i can see it on the icon
[06:45] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: you want to mount it with sudo to that directory.  you will get permissions once you have success.
[06:45] <zazeem> ive tried moving files in i cant
[06:45] <Dark_Knight_209> drgonzo, it's not the greatest card on earth but it's okay if you got a killer cpu. at least with my exerience
[06:45] <zazeem> says i lack permissions
[06:46] <zazeem> how do i as root?
[06:46] <goatmale> whats the... site to post screen shots
[06:46] <{alejandro}> yeah parted don't dig ufs so probably no shot
[06:46] <{alejandro}> gr
[06:46] <{alejandro}> r
[06:46] <varun> zazeem: you probably need root priveleges and I don't think you can do that in X
[06:46] <Dark_Knight_209> what method did you use to install the driver?
[06:46] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, I can see it, but can't write from the gui.
[06:46] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: i'm not sure what you mean?
[06:46] <zazeem> how do i do it then
[06:46] <zazeem> ?
[06:46] <shriphani> drivelocks on a drive ?
[06:46] <n3rdism> goatmale: pastebin?
[06:46] <varun> zazeem: command line
[06:46] <goatmale> yah
[06:46] <goatmale> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:46] <whyameye> hippie23: I know the basic procedure, but I'd need a minute to gather the details. You want to use xmodmap.
[06:46] <drgonzo> Sorry I'm using method 3
[06:46] <shriphani> zazeem i personally think linux wouldnt worry about drivellks
[06:46] <zazeem> is there a wiki on this
[06:46] <shriphani> so i guess it has to be the command line
[06:46] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, I can't use nautilus to write to it.
[06:46] <hippie23> ok
[06:47] <zazeem> well i need to put some files in a game i installed but i cant i dfont have permission
[06:47] <tmccrary> I want to punch linux right in the ovaries
[06:47] <hippie23> I just want it disabled, it drives me nutty
[06:47] <sharms> n3rdism, goatmale: it is also directly in our topic. (pastebin)
[06:47] <varun> zazeem: sudo cp <files you want to copy> <destination you want to copy them to>
[06:47] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: right.  you need to set permissions.
[06:47] <Dark_Knight_209> metohd 3?
[06:47] <zazeem> thnx
[06:47] <varun> tmccrary: you are assuming linux is a woman :-)
[06:47] <tmccrary> ;)
[06:47] <shriphani> zazeem, doin it from linux into a fat partition ?
[06:47] <varun> tmccrary: wassup?
[06:47] <whyameye> hippie23: install xkeycaps and redefine the key there. If that works, you can use xmodmap to automate this on login.
[06:48] <tmccrary> I am using wvdial to connect to my cell phone providers EVDO network. It connects fine and I can ping anything, however as soon as I try to browse the web, the connection dies.
[06:48] <Dark_Knight_209> I mean, how you install it :-p i used the automatrix script
[06:48] <hippie23> ok
[06:48] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: sudo chmod +w /media/Drive
[06:48] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, Am I goig to have to do this everytme I plug the drive in?
[06:48] <zazeem> no
[06:48] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: no
[06:48] <hippie23> just apt-get install xkeycaps?
[06:48] <varun> tmccrary: I'm out.....lol
[06:48] <tmccrary> I get a little bit of the page I'm trying to load (like at slashdot I might get the top part of the page and the story)
[06:48] <zazeem> into my folder in home, a hiddn folder
[06:48] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: when you get success, you can add the successful mounting to /etc/fstab
[06:48] <tmccrary> and I'm going though bluetooth
[06:48] <zazeem> do you know how i can get root permissions?
[06:48] <goatmale> n3rd you still here?
[06:48] <varun> zazeem: sudo passwd root
[06:49] <andrewski> !sudo > zazeem
[06:49] <tmccrary> from what I read, its an issue in the kernel not handling usb serial connections properly
[06:49] <varun> zazeem: you can set a root password
[06:49] <whyameye> hippie23: sudo apt-get install...yes. After it is installed, just type "xkeycaps" and it is a gui to see how the keys are mapped and will allow you to remap them with a right-click.
[06:49] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, How do I add it?
[06:49] <Dark_Knight_209> sudo su
[06:49] <hippie23> ok
[06:49] <Dark_Knight_209> then launch your file manager ^_^
[06:49] <hippie23> ill try that
[06:49] <hippie23> thanks
[06:49] <whyameye> hippie23: the 2nd mapping of the key is what the key does when the shift key is held down.
[06:49] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: i just pasted the command to add permissions.
[06:49] <varun> Dark_Knight_209: ahh.....you mean nautilus& from the shell.......damn.......didn't think of that
[06:49] <goatmale> n3rdism: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18571
[06:49] <Corporal_Dirge> Dark_Knight_209, "gksudo nautilus" work too I think.
[06:50] <varun> zazeem: do what Dark_Knight_209 said
[06:50] <Dark_Knight_209> i'm so used to sudo su
[06:50] <andrewski> Dark_Knight_209, hippie23: use sudo -i
[06:50] <Dark_Knight_209> ever five minutes
[06:50] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, I mean add to fstab
[06:50] <varun> !gksudo > varun
[06:50] <kfogel> Trying to build bleeding edge Emacs from source, but apparently no X Windows development libraries are installed (this is Ubuntu 6.06).  What apt-get install foo should I do?  It's very hard to guess the correct package names :).
[06:50] <shriphani> i use just sudo followed by reqd. command
[06:50] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: oh, right. :)
[06:50] <Dark_Knight_209> -i , be quite!
[06:50] <sharms> shriphani: thats the right way.
[06:50] <DShepherd> is there a desktop file for the bookmarks you make it nautilus?
[06:50] <goatmale> n3rd did you get the link
[06:51] <Dark_Knight_209> i just woke up a little while ago
[06:51] <sharms> Dark_Knight_209: I am sure you are aware, but sudo -i defeats the whole purpose.
[06:51] <varun> zazeem: actually use gksudo
[06:51] <shriphani> kfogel, emacs from source could give you a whole new concept of problems
[06:51] <varun> !gksudo > zazeem
[06:51] <andrewski> !fstab > Corporal_Dirge
[06:51] <zazeem> says not founf
[06:51] <n3rdism> goatmale: yup 1 sec
[06:51] <andrewski> Corporal_Dirge: i'll be around, but i need to get up for a minute.
[06:51] <kfogel> shriphani: it's okay, I've run it "all my life", am one of the developers.  This is a new box I'm checking out my usual source trees on.
[06:51] <zazeem> varun: says !gksudo > zazeem not found
[06:51] <Corporal_Dirge> andrewski, How do I add users to write?
[06:52] <varun> zazeem: lol.....don't run that at command prompt
[06:52] <varun> zazeem: check your pms
[06:52] <zazeem> ?
[06:52] <andrewski> !permissions > Corporal_Dirge
[06:52] <varun> zazeem: from a shell from gksudo nautilus
[06:52] <Corporal_Dirge> !permissions
[06:52] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:52] <Dark_Knight_209> chmod 777 :-p
[06:52] <sharms> kfogel: installed build-essential yet?
[06:52] <Dark_Knight_209> j/k
[06:52] <andrewski> Dark_Knight_209: eekers.
[06:52] <kfogel> sharms: thanks, will try!
[06:52] <varun> zazeem: run*
[06:52] <n3rdism> goatmale: what are you going to use this partition for?
[06:52] <kfogel> sharms: (no, hadn't installed it yet)
[06:52] <goatmale> storage
[06:53] <billytwowilly> any good opensource programs to make screenshots from videos?
[06:53] <n3rdism> goatmale: ok what you are going to do then is get rid of all the partitions for hdb
[06:53] <Dark_Knight_209> anyone know the 209? (area code)
[06:53] <zazeem> says missing a command to run
[06:53] <kfogel> sharms: that just seems to be dpkg dev stuff, not X Windows headers & libs...
[06:53] <n3rdism> goatmale: and make one primary partition in ext3 format
[06:53] <linux_user400354> how can i compress archives with into zip files?
[06:53] <sharms> kfogel: also if it doesnt do it, apt-get install xlib-dev.  find this by opening synaptic and searching for xlib, or apt-cache search xlib | grep dev
[06:53] <zazeem> k i got
[06:53] <zazeem> thnx
[06:53] <varun> zazeem: read what I typed carefully
[06:54] <goatmale> so how n3rd?
[06:54] <kfogel> sharms: thanks for the tip
[06:54] <shriphani> thats it gnome is gone now
[06:54] <shriphani> this is an xubuntu desktop wee
[06:54] <n3rdism> goatmale: right click the partitions in the partition table and remove, untill it says unallocated space as the only option and then click it and make that into ext3
[06:54] <goatmale> all of them
[06:54] <n3rdism> goatmale: everything in hdb
[06:54] <goatmale> even the swap?
[06:54] <Dark_Knight_209> what if all linux programs where just named by numbers?..." hey you hear 4454545 came out "
[06:55] <n3rdism> goatmale: yah you already have 1 swap in hda
[06:55] <goatmale> so delete it>
[06:55] <n3rdism> yarrrr
[06:55] <sharms> !tell Dark_Knight_209 about offtopic
[06:55] <zazeem> that did nothing
[06:55] <zazeem> still cant get into them :(
[06:55] <zazeem> cant i just always be admin?
[06:55] <kfogel> sharms: okay, it's "xlibs-dev", looks like.  Thank you.
[06:55] <sharms> kfogel: np
[06:55] <sam_> I installed ubuntu then kde after...now when my pc boots up it has the blue kubuntu screen how do i make it ubuntu again, i got help here earlier but it didnt work
[06:55] <shriphani> zazeem sudo cp .......... /media/sdb/bin ??
[06:56] <shriphani> sheesh
[06:56] <shriphani> not /sdb/bin
[06:56] <zazeem> huh?
[06:56] <sam_> any help would be appreciated...its not a serious issue but the small things count
[06:56] <varun> shriphani: damn I need to get rid of gnome........it eats up way too much memory
[06:56] <goatmale> primatry of secondary
[06:56] <n3rdism> goatmale: primary
[06:56] <hippie23> how do i use xkeycaps
[06:56] <linux_user400354> Dark_Knight_209, change your initdefault to 6
[06:56] <shriphani> varun, did i post that ?
[06:56] <nathanj> how do you get ubuntu to fill the full monitor screen on a laptop?
[06:56] <varun> shriphani: post what?
[06:56] <snorre> I can't get Ubuntu to boot in normal mode after removing the CDROM drive.  It hangs when trying to mount the root file system.  It boots fine in recovery mode though.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:56] <shriphani> the damn get rid of gnome ....
[06:56] <varun> nathanj: what is the resolution of the screen?
[06:56] <sharms> !tell nathanj about resolution
[06:57] <linux_user400354> nathanj, change the resolution
[06:57] <nathanj> varun: no idea the laptop is old :o
[06:57] <varun> shriphani: haha......no I said that
[06:57] <shriphani> oh so evenu are using xfce ?
[06:57] <sam_> anyone?
[06:57] <nathanj> i have set the res to 1024x768
[06:57] <nathanj> but its in middle
[06:57] <sam_> ?:?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?##??!
[06:57] <goatmale> thanks for all your help n3rd and andre
[06:57] <varun> shriphani: no I meant I am running gnome, but I need to get rid of it :-) and use maybe xfce or flux
[06:57] <sharms> sam_ you need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop, and that is no way to act.  Stop spamming immediately.
[06:57] <goatmale> amd everyone else
[06:57] <varun> sam_: relax
[06:57] <n3rdism> goatmale: np
[06:57] <goatmale> goodnight
[06:57] <sam_> lol sorry
[06:57] <master5o1> did anyone go to my website? (http://master5o1.co.nr)
[06:58] <n3rdism> goatmale: did it work??
[06:58] <sam_> i tried
[06:58] <sharms> sam_: keep it up and you will be banned, against channel policy.
[06:58] <sam_> it didnt work
[06:58] <tritium> sam_: dude, please
[06:58] <n3rdism> o.o
[06:58] <sam_> ok
[06:58] <shadeofgrey> does anybody here play elder scroills oblivion?
[06:58] <n3rdism> shadeofgrey: yah :D
[06:58] <linux_user400354> nathanj, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:58] <shadeofgrey> i rented it and i need a heads up on the scontroil scheme
[06:58] <varun> shriphani: do you use xfce?
[06:58] <shriphani> rt. now varun yes
[06:59] <shadeofgrey> n3rdism:  could you please speak with me in private and give me a heads up ofthe conmtrol scheme?  unbelievably, i havent been able to finmd it online
[06:59] <shriphani> but apt-get  refuses to acknowledge that gnome ever existed
[06:59] <nathanj> linux_user400354: done that.
[06:59] <sharms> sam_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198973&highlight=kubuntu+splash
[06:59] <varun> shriphani: how similar is it to gnome? I kinda like the menus and windows lists and launchers
[06:59] <shriphani> almost same
[06:59] <varun> shriphani: substantially smaller memory footprint?
[06:59] <linux_user400354>  nathanj, did you try asking in ##linux the people in there are usually smarter
[07:00] <shriphani> they have the thunar file manager
[07:00] <Tommy2k4> xubuntu for me was slower than kubuntu
[07:00] <tritium> linux_user400354: is that a very nice thing to say?
[07:00] <n3rdism> shadeofgrey: wsad is movement, spacebar is jump and cancel, sorta. ctrl is sneak mode, shift might be walk (kinda hrd off the top of my head) and e is use
[07:00] <n3rdism> shadeofgrey: tab is open menu
[07:00] <shriphani> on my box xubuntu-desktop download hit 48 MB
[07:00] <varun> I miss my X2 for kernel compiles :-(
[07:00] <n3rdism> shadeofgrey: you can edit your controls if you hit esc and then controls, i believe
[07:01] <varun> shriphani: memory footprint? or package size?
[07:01] <tritium> varun: what do you compile your kernels for, anyway?
[07:01] <snorre> I can't get Ubuntu to boot in normal mode (it stops when trying to mount the root file system) after removing my CDROM drive.  Anyone know what went wrong?
[07:01] <shriphani> package size ?
[07:01] <nathanj> my key baord doesnt have a tilde KEY!
[07:01] <sharms> nathanj: I already sent you the resolution document, your issue will be considered resolved until you read it.
[07:01] <varun> tritium: I needed to add the PowerNow! drivers
[07:01] <shriphani> apt-get said reqd. to get 48 MB of archives and 128 MB will be used
[07:01] <tritium> varun: ah, okay
[07:02] <varun> tritium: and trimmed the kernel down while I was at it:-P
[07:02] <nathanj> sharms: its not right in the console either, its in middle of screen
[07:02] <tritium> varun: just curious, as the ubuntu stock kernels suit me just fine
[07:02] <sharms> nathanj: your console will also probably be at the wrong resolution if your laptop doesn't scale it, why dont you read the document ubotu linked to you
[07:03] <nathanj> sharms: i am...
[07:03] <linux_user400354> nathanj, you can try asking at www.linuxquestions.org forum
[07:03] <varun> tritium: oh I'm sure it is, I usually don't.........but I wanted those drivers :-)
[07:04] <sharms> linux_user400354: he doesn't have an issue that the document I sent him will not solve.
[07:04] <goatmale> n3rd it works
[07:04] <goatmale> thank
[07:04] <tritium> linux_user400354: this is a fair place to ask questions.  Please quit discouraging it
[07:04] <Vilkacis> I need to un-install SQL in order to fix it. I think I somehow have two versions running and conflicting with each other, with passwords set.
[07:04] <n3rdism> goatmale: yay :D np
[07:05] <Vilkacis> How do I uninstall something? I did a groupadd, how do I do a group-remove?
[07:05] <sharms> Vilkacis: have you tried synaptic?
[07:05] <stiv2k> uh
[07:05] <hippie23> how do I edit this in xkeycaps, I just want to set it so shif + backspace does nothing
[07:05] <Corporal_Dirge> !fstab
[07:05] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[07:05] <shriphani> !gnome
[07:05] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[07:05] <rixth> When I start MySQL - "...failed or took more than 6s. Please take a look at the syslog." The syslog is /var/log/messages? If so, there is nothing relevant there. (this is the Ubuntu build of mysql5)
[07:05] <stiv2k> man
[07:05] <Vilkacis> sharms: I installed one in synaptic (which I figure I can uninstall) and another manually, following some instructions. They are conflicting with each other and one of the two I don't have passwords for.
[07:05] <stiv2k> dhcp never works in ubuntu for me
[07:06] <linux_user400354> usually when i ask questions, i will ask a linux user group mailing list, ubuntu mailing list, linuxquestions forum and a few irc channels
[07:06] <tritium> stiv2k: do you have it configured properly?
[07:06] <sharms> Vilkacis: the one you installed via synaptic will be easily removable through the interface, the other one you will need to follow the guide backwards.
[07:06] <tritium> linux_user400354: well, we're here to help, so please don't be disparaging
[07:06] <stiv2k> tritium: i was trying to get online w/ the livecd
[07:07] <stiv2k> and it wouldnt get an IP (wifi card)
[07:07] <stiv2k> i have a rather low signal
[07:07] <Vilkacis> sharms: Right. Which is why I ask: How do I do the opposite of groupadd and useradd? And chown, will that matter or will deleting the directory make it's access to it irrelivant?
[07:07] <stiv2k> but in windows it gets the IP
[07:07] <stiv2k> in ubuntu it just times out
[07:07] <sharms> linux_user400354: if there is a question that this channel can't answer for you, I will devote 10 minutes to it before I go to sleep, so please ask
[07:08] <tritium> stiv2k: is the proper module loaded?  Do you see info from iwconfig on the interface?  Are you using wep or wpa?
[07:08] <sharms> Vilkacis: Open up a shell, type group then hit tab to see a list of commands beginning with group.  Do the same for user, and it should be intuitive
[07:08] <stiv2k> tritium: yeah it detects it fine
[07:08] <stiv2k> tritium: everything works fine except it cant get an IP
[07:08] <sharms> Vilkacis:  as for chown, just chown any items you chowned to whatever back to whatever user they were owned by before
[07:08] <Vilkacis> sharms: Ah, good idea. Thanks.
[07:08] <sharms> Vilkacis: and if you are just deleting the items they dont need to be chowned
[07:08] <n3rdism> !chown
[07:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:09] <varun> any kernel hackers in the room?
[07:09] <hippie23> ok
[07:10] <Vilkacis> sharms: OK, groupdel does not let me as it says "cannot remove user's primary group".
[07:10] <hippie23> I changed  shift+backspace to just bacspace as using the backspace key alone with xkeycaps, now how do i make it permanent
[07:10] <stiv2k> tritium: any ideas?
[07:10] <n3rdism> !permissions
[07:10] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[07:10] <tritium> stiv2k: not without more info, no
[07:10] <sharms> Vilkacis: delete the user first, then group
[07:10] <stiv2k> tritium: hmmm...what else do you need to know?
[07:10] <nathanj> ddcprobe doesnt give me a ranghe
[07:11] <Vilkacis> sharms: Ah. It helps a little more when I think about what the commands are doing.
[07:11] <tritium> stiv2k: is it using the right essid?
[07:11] <Vilkacis> sharms: How do I list users, just so I can be sure I did this properly?
[07:11] <stiv2k> tritium: yeah, i pick the network in gnome's little manager hing
[07:11] <jsestri2> anyone here install aiglx before?
[07:11] <stiv2k> tritium: and it just times out
[07:11] <sharms> nathanj: google for your monitors values
[07:11] <secretpickle> anyone here install azureus before?
[07:11] <sharms> jsestri2: I would recommend xgl instead
[07:12] <sharms> secretpickle: www.easylinux.info   go to the dapper guide
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> hippie23: add a script to your session startup that does it.
[07:12] <tritium> stiv2k: any security like wep or wpa?
[07:12] <jsestri2> sharms: this isn't a necessity, just some play, I already installed xgl :-D
[07:12] <secretpickle> sharms: will do
[07:12] <stiv2k> tritium: nah, the one i'm connecting to is insecure
[07:12] <n3rdism> !chmod > n3rdism
[07:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about chmod  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:12] <sharms> Vilkacis: cat /etc/passwd
[07:12] <tritium> stiv2k: any clues from log files in /var/log?
[07:12] <frogzoo> secretpickle: it's very straight forward
[07:12] <sharms> !tell n3rdism about permissions
[07:12] <jsestri2> sharms: xgl is cool, but not stable enough for me yet, maybe once it supports XV
[07:12] <hippie23> oh boy.. how is that done, I dont know too mutch scripting
[07:13] <stiv2k> tritium: well ifup ath0 just shows it timing out, it says it couldnt find any dhcp leases or w/e
[07:13] <n3rdism> sharms: i think i figured it out. thanks ^^
[07:13] <hippie23> Xgl is awsome.. im using it now
[07:13] <stiv2k> tritium: i ddint check the log
[07:13] <tritium> sharms: the official ubuntu wiki would be a more appropriate source of info
[07:13] <sharms> jsestri2: problem with aiglx is that it only works with 100% open source drivers
[07:13] <tritium> !ubuntuguide
[07:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntuguide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:13] <frogzoo> !azureus
[07:13] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[07:13] <Vilkacis> sharms: Thanks.
[07:13] <jsestri2> sharms: ah, so my nvidia drivers are ng eh?
[07:13] <secretpickle> sharms:  azureus is already installed but it's having difficulty
[07:13] <tritium> ubuntuguide has been known to lead people astray
[07:13] <frogzoo> !azureus > secretpickle
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> describe difficulty?
[07:14] <sharms> tritium: in this case the wiki for ubuntu is not correct
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> sharms: then correct it :)
[07:14] <sharms> tritium:  the user needs to get cvs azureus otherwise gui defects occur, and I am lazy
[07:14] <frogzoo> sharms: how so?
[07:14] <sharms> frogzoo: try it.
[07:14] <tritium> sharms: okay, but in general...
[07:14] <Broadcast> Hey
[07:14] <Broadcast> how do i login as root
[07:15] <frogzoo> sharms: oh, like the popup that never closes, well, it's not perfect no
[07:15] <tritium> Broadcast: sudo -i
[07:15] <sharms> !tell Broadcast about sudo
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> !tell Broadcast about sudo
[07:15] <sharms> frogzoo: cvs fixes that
[07:15] <frogzoo> sharms: like you say, I'm lazy...
[07:15] <Broadcast> no, graphical
[07:15] <yallax>  what is the point of DFS? replicated on servers? can i just add all my shared folders? or does this work in some special way? ive read some..but didnt quite get it
[07:15] <sharms> Broadcast: that document covers both
[07:15] <yallax> oh..wrong chan
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> frogzoo: I *heard* that the latest .jar file from azuereus.sf.net fixes that.
[07:15] <Broadcast> !tell Broadcast about sudo
[07:15] <tritium> Broadcast: I think this has been explained to you already ;)
[07:15] <Broadcast> lol
[07:15] <Broadcast> well
[07:15] <Broadcast> thanks
[07:15] <Broadcast> :)
[07:16] <grte> Is it possible to enable 256 colours in gnome-terminal?
[07:16] <jsestri2> sharms: is it worth my time to try and install aiglx from source? or just go at from repos listed in the forums?
[07:16] <tritium> Broadcast: not to mention the bit about enter/punctuation
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> grte: gnome-terminal gets its color depth from X, so whatever you have enabled in X is what you see in gnome-terminal.
[07:16] <grte> Aaah, okay.
[07:16] <sharms> jsestri2: like I said, it only works with 100% open source drivers which is a bit rough since they have to implement glx fully too which i dont believe nv does?
[07:16] <grte> Do you know how I can find out?
[07:16] <kinabalu> whats the ubuntu equivalent or debian equivalent of chkconfig for init.d scripts?
[07:16] <tritium> kinabalu: what does chkconfig do?
[07:16] <kinabalu> oh man, and no service command .. what gives
[07:17] <jsestri2> sharms: good point probably a waste of my time, thanks for the info!
[07:17] <Vilkacis> sharms: If I am trying to re-start SQL with fresh passwords and such, would I 'reinstall' "mysql-common" from the drop-down menu in Synaptic or just physically remove it and then put it back?
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> grte: find out the color depth? do this grep DefaultDepth /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:17] <stiv2k> eh
[07:17] <stiv2k> dammit
[07:17] <tritium> invoke-rc.d and update-rc.d are useful, kinabalu.  Not sure what you're trying to do
[07:17] <sharms> Vilkacis: reinstall from synaptic should do the trick
[07:17] <kinabalu> tritium: updates init.d scripts to the appropriate runlevel
[07:17] <tritium> stiv2k: calm down
[07:17] <kinabalu> tritium: ahh, k .. thanks
[07:17] <Vilkacis> sharms: Or do I want to remove mysql-server?
[07:17] <tritium> kinabalu: update-rc.d, then
[07:17] <sharms> Vilkacis: reinstall the -server part also
[07:17] <hippie23> where is my login script located so i can edit it
[07:17] <grte> Okay, it says it's set to 24.
[07:17] <stiv2k> tritium: lol ok
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> hippie23: why?
[07:18] <grte> Do I just have to change DefaultDepth to 256, then?  Will that have any negative effects?
[07:18] <hippie23> for my modified keymap with shif+backspace disabled
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> grte: lol, there is no default depth of 256.
[07:18] <hippie23> I need to add a line to it, but dont know what directory its in
[07:18] <grte> Err...So I guess it can't be done...?
[07:18] <sharms> hippie23: are you following some XGL tutorial?
[07:18] <hippie23> no
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> hippie23: create a script (anywhere), change its permissions so its executable, then system > preferences > sessions, click the last tab, and add it there.
[07:19] <grte> Oh, nevermind.
[07:19] <sharms> fyrestrtr++
[07:19] <grte> 24-bit, right.
[07:19] <grte> Not 24 colours.
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> grte: yeap :)
[07:19] <grte> Sorry, thinking in terms of colours rather then bits.
[07:19] <sharms> grte: 8^24 colors kindof.
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> 24 bits is "millions of colors" in Windows.
[07:20] <grte> In that case, setting elinks to 256 colours shouldn't be an issue...
[07:20] <grte> Yeah, I understand the differences between colour depths in bits, I was just thinking in the wrong context.
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> grte: nope, it shouldn't. But seeing as how you are already in X, try that little button that launches firefox :)
[07:20] <Broadcast> how do i know the password of my root account
[07:20] <grte> fyrestrtr: I prefer epiphany, myself.
[07:20] <sharms> Broadcast: there is no password, read the document.
[07:21] <sharms> !tell broadcast about sudo
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> there is no password. You use your own password with sudo to execute commands as root.
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> grte: or that.
[07:21] <grte> But I just like being able to work effectively in a terminal.
[07:21] <grte> Plus...The command line just feels more natural for me.
[07:22] <fyrestrtr> grte: if you want to learn quickly, then just run in console mode a few days. That'll put some hair on your chest ... especially if you are new to linux.
[07:22] <sharms> grte: in the case 256 colors should suffice.
[07:22] <hippie23> thanks
[07:22] <grte> fyrestrtr: Not /too/ new, been running Ubuntu for about a year now.
[07:23] <grte> I mean, I know my way around the console, just that particular piece of information wasn't something I had looked into before.
[07:23] <hippie23> I think it only worked for my Xgl session, will it work for KDE and xfce as well?
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> grte: imnsho -- unless you did something like a from scratch gentoo install, or lfs install -- you are very new to linux :)
[07:23] <grte> I'm not a pro by any stretch, but I can get stuff done.
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> hippie23: you'll have to do the equivalent in kde and xfce, I don't know what is the equivalent file.
[07:23] <grte> Well, if it helps, my first experience with linux was a RedHat 6.1 install.
[07:23] <grte> I never did get X working, so I just used the tty.
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> grte: I feel your pain.
[07:24] <sharms> fyrestrtr: your place isn't to judge that, lfs and gentoo does not a linux expert make.
[07:24] <hippie23> ok
[07:24] <hippie23> ill figure it out
[07:24] <grte> That particular experience was why I didn't use linux until Ubuntu.  More's the pity for me.
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> sharms: neither does ubuntu, but atleast when you are compiling a kernel in gentoo -- you get to learn a bit more about linux :)
[07:24] <hippie23> thanks
[07:24] <hippie23> have a good evening
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> 8:24 AM here -- soo good evening to you, and hello coffee to me :)
[07:25] <thoreauputic_> fyrestrtr: --->> #gentoo  ;-)
[07:25] <grte> Anways, I learned what I needed to know.  Thanks for the help, guys.,
[07:25] <ku> Gah, I can't decide between ubuntu and kubuntu! I uninstalled kubuntu and just reinstalled kubuntu, but now I want to go back
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> thoreauputic_: was running gentoo for 3 years, its a great distro.
[07:25] <ku> reinstalled ubuntu&
[07:25] <thoreauputic_> fyrestrtr: I didn't say it wasn't :)
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> ku: just install ubuntu-desktop ( sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop )
[07:26] <ku> fyrestrtr: can i do that the other way too?
[07:26] <River> I was editing  /etc/postgresql/8.1/main/pg_hba.conf remotely via an ssh session which I lost connection. Now even on the target machine, gedit just returns. Can anyone help please ?
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> ku: what do you mean?
[07:26] <ku> like install kubuntu desktop on ubuntu?
[07:26] <varun> river: returns?
[07:26] <sharms> fyrestrtr: the deal is, use the right tool for the right job.  If I am a 12 year old kid with a lot of freetime, then it is sensible to waste my time compiling a kernel and all my packages.  If I am a real person in the real world with normal circumstances, I would choose a distribution with real package management.
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> sure, just install kubuntu-desktop
[07:26] <sproingie> weird.  much as i like the human theme, the gtk look and feel looks horrendous in netbeans
[07:26] <thoreauputic_> ku: you'll get the choice at the login screen
[07:27] <tritium> sharms: well said ;)
[07:27] <thoreauputic_> after installing it
[07:27] <fyrestrtr> sharms: sorry, but if that was a stab at gentoo -- you got it so wrong. Gentoo's package management is far better than most distros.
[07:27] <sproingie> i guess gnome widgets don't look so good when they're laid out densely.  kinda like osx that way
[07:27] <River> varum: yes if I gedit in terminal window, it just returns to the command prompt and the gedit window never starts
[07:27] <n3rdism> !tell n3rdism about women
[07:27] <thoreauputic_> fyrestrtr: discussion of gentoo --> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:27] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: their package management is great, yes.  their release engineering is, meh.
[07:27] <tritium> n3rdism: don't abuse the bot, please
[07:28] <ku> thoreauputic_: ? I have Ubuntu already installed. I installed Kubuntu first, but was annoyed by some things so I installed this... but now I want to go back to Kubuntu ^^. I know at this rate, I'm never going to settle with one
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: well that's another ball-o-wax ;)
[07:28] <ang-oz> What is the recommended way to automatically mount smb filesystems on boot with Dapper?
[07:28] <n3rdism> tritium: sorry lol >.<
[07:28] <sharms> n3rdism: if you want to play with the bot you can also /msg it instead
[07:28] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: debian's release engineering is second to none, including the best commercial outfits
[07:28] <River> varun: fyi, I run 'sudo gedit /etc/postgresql/8.1/main/pg_hba.conf'
[07:28] <thoreauputic_> ku: if you install kubuntu-desktop you'll have both
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> ku: you can have both, just choose what session you want to login to.
[07:28] <thoreauputic_> ku: same distro, different desktops
[07:28] <ku> ooh icic
[07:29] <thoreauputic_> :)
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: so true. It seems a bit more polished.
[07:29] <ku> yay... installing ^^
[07:29] <River> varum: it simply returns to the command prompt in the temrinal window and the gedit window never opens
[07:30] <weex> i'm trying to install ndiswrapper but apparently hoary 5.4 comes with gcc 3.3, I'm trying to upgrade to gcc 3.4 but the upgrade doesn't seem to help the compile
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> River: are you doing that from a remote shell session?
[07:30] <ku> Thanks thoreauputic_ and fyrestrtr, you guys saved me from reinstalling the OS like 20 times ^^
[07:30] <ku> Now I'ma go have a cigarette while I wait for this thing to download.
[07:30] <thoreauputic_> ku: you will be asked if you want gdm ( gnome login) or kdm (KDE login screen)
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> weex: upgrade to dapper -- wireless works a lot better.
[07:30] <ku> k
[07:30] <weex> how long would that take and how would i do it?
[07:30] <thoreauputic_> ku: either is fine - matter of preference
[07:30] <River> fyrestrtr: I did originaly, but I lost the connection. Now the same command on the target machine simply returns to the terminal prompt
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> weex: long depends on your internet connection, as for the how, see !upgrade
[07:31] <Vilkacis> Argh. I have UN-installed and RE-installed SQL 3 times now, and there are still conflicts. Anytime I try to change something about a user, it claims there is already a duplicate user and I should pick another username. How do I nuke SQL off my system entirely?
[07:31] <weex> !upgrade
[07:31] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:31] <varun> river: this is in X?
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> River: well gedit needs an X session. You had better use something like vi or pico
[07:31] <weex> fyrestrtr: thanks will do
[07:31] <River> varun: yes dapper gnome session in a terminal window
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: sudo apt-get remove --purge whatever-package
[07:31] <thoreauputic_> fyrestrtr: actually in ubuntu pico is a symlonk to nano - not that it matters
[07:32] <thoreauputic_> *symlink
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> thoreauputic_: lol nice. Atleast they didn't do something like symlink vim to emacs. I would just die.
[07:32] <thoreauputic_> fyrestrtr: heheh
[07:32] <River> fyrestrtr: My bad, I wasn't clear, original session was an X session from cygwin on another machine
[07:33] <thoreauputic_> fyrestrtr: pico is regarded as "non-free" I believe
[07:33] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: dunno that i'd call raw debian polished.  well-machined.  now ubuntu, that's got polish
[07:33] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I have removed SQL from Synaptic 3 times. I am not sure what else is running that I need to remove.
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: what do you mean when you say SQL? MySQL or what?
[07:33] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: i used to be solely a kde guy.  6.06 actually converted me back to gnome. now if only nautilus was half as featureful as konq :-/
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: waef, shell > *
[07:34] <River> varun: fyrestrtr: did the original lost session somehow leave the file locked or something ?
[07:34] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Yes, MySQL. I think I somehow installed 2 versions, and the one I cannot remove is conflicting with the current one. It keeps saying I have duplicate users anytime I try to edit the current ones.
[07:34] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: konq has among other things an integrated shell window.  best of both worlds, almost
[07:34] <Broadcast> hey, one last Q
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> River: could have, look for any hidden .lck files. I'm not sure about gedit, but vim does lock files (of course it warns you about it when you open up the file again)
[07:35] <thoreauputic_> fyrestrtr: now if they had symlinked emacs and vi to "ed" *grin* ....
[07:35] <Broadcast> whats the command for deleting a file
[07:35] <sproingie> Broadcast: rm
[07:35] <Broadcast> \from the terminal
[07:35] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: even after I remove MySQL, when I re-install it it says it has to turn off a MySQL database and then turn on a new one, which means there is one running SOMEWHERE that I just don't know how to get rid of.
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> thoreauputic_: you are a bad, bad man.
[07:35] <thoreauputic_> fyrestrtr: mwuhahaha !
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: are you removing the mysql client, or server?
[07:35] <sproingie> Broadcast: i recommend that you type 'man intro'
[07:35] <Broadcast> a directory*
[07:35] <Broadcast> ?
[07:35] <River> fyrestrtr: sorry, what is the ls command to show hidden files ?
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> ls -a
[07:36] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Server. And common files, each time. And sudo apt-get remove mysql brings up errors because apparently things are using that process.
[07:36] <sproingie> Broadcast: for empty directories, rmdir (just like dos)
[07:36] <sproingie> Broadcast: for directories with files, rm -r
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop then, sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server, then sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[07:36] <ironfroggy> is there a way to install the eclipse packages without pulling in all the java development stuff?
[07:36] <hasakanyol> hi
[07:37] <Guitarhero> hi
[07:37] <sproingie> i always thought it was a hoot that dos had del for files, but rmdir for dirs.  why not deldir?
[07:37] <tritium> ironfroggy: if they are dependencies, you'll need them
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: well, you need most of it as they are eclipse dependencies.
[07:37] <Broadcast> ok, now i need some good tutorials to start on linux
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> Broadcast: start browsing the wiki -- its already bookmarked in firefox.
[07:38] <sproingie> Broadcast: i hate to say it, but there's not a lot of good online tutorials.  Linux in a Nutshell is pretty decent for learning commandline stuff
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> the other good site is tldp.org
[07:38] <thoreauputic_> http://tuxfiles.org is good for an intro to cli commands
[07:38] <River> fyrestrtr: ok, none in the same dir as the file I'm trying to edit
[07:38] <ironfroggy> tritium: yeah but im saying why are they dependancies? why do i need java development tools just to use something written in java?
[07:39] <Broadcast> k, thanks alot guys
[07:39] <shriphani> hmm i just noticed there isnt any trash in xfce
[07:39] <Broadcast> thanks sproingie
[07:39] <Broadcast> thanks fyrestrtr
[07:39] <Broadcast> and i'm out
[07:39] <Broadcast> :D
[07:39] <tritium> ironfroggy: if they're dependencies, they're needed
[07:39] <tems99> hi1
[07:39] <tems99> hi :)
[07:39] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server brings up errors, same as before. It says it cannot lock it.
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: because, eclipse is meant to compile and build java apps. You can install eclipse without the eclipse java development components, but I doubt that will cut your download much.
[07:39] <Cynical> anyone have any idea how to get sound on an integrated Intel sound
[07:40] <shriphani> so w/ever i delete is gone forever
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: close synaptic
[07:40] <tems99> does anyone here have problems editing etc/apt/source.list?
[07:40] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: >_>
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: should work out of the box (did on my machine).
[07:40] <sproingie> thoreauputic_: at first glance, the tuxfiles stuff seems pretty didactic, long digressions on terminal emulators and VT's
[07:40] <Cynical> intel what?
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> intel on board audio. AC'97 chipset.
[07:40] <Cynical> my 945GM chipset is a pain
[07:40] <sproingie> shriphani: there should be a trashcan on the xfce panel, no?
[07:41] <tems99> when i try and edit it, all i get is a blank file...it cant seem to find the source.list already in the apt folder
[07:41] <thoreauputic_> sproingie: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html is pretty basic and quite helpful
[07:41] <shriphani> sproingie, no
[07:41] <Cynical> hmm
[07:41] <sproingie> shriphani: huh.  funny oversight.
[07:41] <Cynical> wonder where I would find the ac 97 driver
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> tems99: its sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:41] <tems99> ok.
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: its part of the kernel, and should be running by default. What problem are you having with sound?
[07:41] <tems99> i'll try it out.
[07:41] <tems99> thanks.
[07:42] <Cynical> there isn't any
[07:42] <tems99> fyrestrtr: thanks
[07:42] <Cynical> plain and simple
[07:42] <ironfroggy> fyrestrtr: actually the difference was 34/40 down from 130/180 (download/installed sizes), from choosing eclipse-platform-common.
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> tems99: etc/apt/sources.list -- is looking for etc in the current directory. You need the first /
[07:42] <ironfroggy> so im saving about 150 megs.
[07:42] <sproingie> thoreauputic_: i'm browsing through it.  it's pretty good i guess.  i might have been pithier, but i guess no one style fits everyone
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: any at all? or sometimes there is, sometimes there isn't?
[07:42] <tems99> fyrestrtr: thanks a lot, booting up ubuntu now to try it out.
[07:42] <Cynical> none at all
[07:43] <thoreauputic_> sproingie: yeah, it does go on a bit in places - but it's sound as far as I can see
[07:43] <nathanj> does anyoenm know how to make the resoluction fillt he screen on laptop atm its in the middle of the screen
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: what does lspic -vv | grep audio show you?
[07:43] <kinabalu> booting up ubuntu, cloning the vm .. and booting up a second instance of ubuntu .. all in a gig of disk space .. for testing .. that rocks
[07:44] <sproingie> thoreauputic_: might be a good place to point my coworker who i need to train on basic getting around on the linux dev boxen
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: strange, on my system didn't make too much of a difference. Maybe I had some other files installed previously. Careful with eclipse-common -- you might not get the complete IDE with all its features.
[07:44] <sproingie> thoreauputic_: though he's developed a workflow with notepad++ and winscp that's utterly dizzying to me, so maybe i shouldn't tinker with what works :)
[07:44] <River> ok varun, fyrestrtr I'm stuck but thanks for your help anyway
[07:44] <Cynical> bash: lspic: command not found
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: try tldp.org -- great docs there too
[07:44] <thoreauputic_> sproingie: heh
[07:45] <farous> Cynical: lspci
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: sorry, lspci -vv | grep audio
[07:45] <thoreauputic_> sproingie: some people recommend http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[07:45] <Cynical> nothing
[07:45] <ironfroggy> fyrestrtr: worried about that. but ill see what it gives me and see what i can add per-package. i just dont want to pull in all the usual stuff. i dont even touch java.
[07:46] <sproingie> thoreauputic_: yah i really want to teach him the zen of pipes and shell scripting.  once he learns something he amazes me with what he does, he just doesn't explore new stuff that much
[07:46] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Is there any problem with using mysql-server-4.1?
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: why are you getting eclipse then? maybe something else fits your needs better?
[07:46] <sproingie> thoreauputic_: takes all kinds i guess
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: no?
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: nothing -- no ouput at all?
[07:46] <Cynical> none.
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> you should get something like this
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[07:47] <ironfroggy> fyrestrtr: umm.. because i like it? i dont see what the question really is, sorry.
[07:47] <Cynical> well I get nothing
[07:47] <jsestri2> anyone know where xgl settings reside?
[07:47] <Cynical> even copied and paste
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: sorry, I meant if you were getting it for say ... web development, there were some other things that aren't that heavy.
[07:47] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: eclipse is not half bad as a perl ide.  though it seems like massive overkill.  like the emacs of the 21st century, now that emacs itself is actually fast
[07:48] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I am getting an error that /etc/init.d/mysql was not found. Did I delete something I should not have?
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: komodo takes the cake for heavy ide as far as I am concerned.
[07:48] <ironfroggy> fyrestrtr: im using it for python development. it has nice darcs integration and is a decent environment.
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: did you delete the file manually?
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: ooh, make sure you install the pydev modules then.
[07:48] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: It still says the changes were made, but if you open the terminal it shows those errors when trying to run certain initscripts.
[07:49] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I did, when I was removing every trace I could find of it.
[07:49] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: a xul-based ide.  yowza.  didn't impress me too much, tho it was a lot more stable for python than SPE
[07:49] <ironfroggy> im thinking ill probably just keep using kate...
[07:49] <weex> does upgrading to dapper really require that i upgrade to breezy first from hoary?
[07:49] <sproingie> kate is god, i had my unix-phobic coworker using that ... til the only X-enabled dev server bit the dust
[07:50] <thoreauputic_> weex: yes
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: for future reference, never, ever delete something in /etc/init.d unless you know 100% what you are doing. Always use apt-get or synaptic to manage packages and their configuration files.
[07:50] <Libra102> hum..
[07:50] <ironfroggy> sproingie: kate is just very well rounded.
[07:50] <thoreauputic_> weex: unless you are a wizard, anyway ;)
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: do this now, sudo killall mysql
[07:50] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I will certainly do that from now on. What did I break and how can I fix it?
[07:51] <weex> thor: thanks...since I just set this machine up, perhaps I'll just dl the dapper cd and reinstall
[07:51] <lewbing> Hi, I am trying to install the anjuta 2.02,but i am has a error.are you someone installed anjuta,can someone help me to get it installed.
[07:51] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: It says no process was killed.
[07:51] <ironfroggy> is there a possible way to configure offline files for samba shares used through smbclient?
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> weex: there ya go :)
[07:51] <thoreauputic_> weex: might be easier and quicker
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: okay, now install mysql-server
[07:51] <Cynical> any idea why im not getting anything?
[07:51] <ironfroggy> as in, to mark certain files and say "cache these so i can use them when im offline"
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: well, don't know to be honest.
[07:52] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: In synaptic?
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: you haven't disabled on board audio have you?
[07:52] <Cynical> uhh no
[07:52] <Cynical> it works fine in windows
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: either that or from the cli -- they both do the same thing.
[07:52] <weex> fyrestrtr: so when you say dapper is much better on wireless are you saying I don't need to install ndiswrapper manually etc to get my dlink usb wifi adapter to work?
[07:52] <ajax4> lewbing: Are you installing from synaptic?
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> weex: no, I'm saying its less of a pain to get ndiswrapper working in dapper.
[07:52] <nathanj> anyone know specs for the monitor in a Toshiba 4060XCDT lappy?
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> nathanj: its a lcd, you really don't need specs for it.
[07:53] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: mysql-server-4.1 is already installed in Synaptic. Should I re-install it, or downgrade everything to 4.0?
[07:53] <lewbing> ajax4,no,i am only want use anjuta2.02
[07:53] <intelligi> How do I check my IP?
[07:53] <weex> i guess i have to ask myself, what would brian boitano do?
[07:53] <intelligi> I forget.
[07:53] <ubunt1> how do you know what your root pass is
[07:53] <ajax4> lewbing: Are you compiling from the source then?
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: its showing it as installed? Hit refresh
[07:53] <thoreauputic_> intelligi: ifconfig
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> intelligi: ifconfig
[07:53] <nathanj> fyrestrtr: it keeps showing the screen in the midddle real small
[07:54] <ubunt1> intelligi: ifconfig?
[07:54] <Cynical> lcd's are a pain
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> nathanj: is that a very old laptop?
[07:54] <thoreauputic_> intelligi: unless you mean your internet IP and you are behind a router
[07:54] <lewbing> ajax4,yeah,i compile the anjuta dependencies package now,but i am has a error.
[07:54] <nathanj> fyrestrtr: yes
[07:54] <Cynical> like how old?
[07:54] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I reloaded. It still shows as installed.
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> nathanj: check what resolution X is running, and how old exactly?
[07:54] <clever> how would i find the ubuntu package to upgrade my firefox?
[07:54] <ubunt1> im trying to install this java, and i have to enter some 'su' in the terminal
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: try to uninstall it from there.
[07:54] <ubunt1> and it prompts for a pass
[07:54] <thoreauputic_> intelligi: if you use a router the web page for the router will tell you
[07:55] <ajax4> lewbing: Sorry, I have never been able to get it compiled right. I wish they would add it to the repositories.
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> ubunt1: enter your password
[07:55] <ubunt1> ok
[07:55] <ubunt1> thanks
[07:55] <nathanj> fyrestrtr: its a 366mhz with 64mb, im i have tried 1024x768 and 800x600 maybe i should try 640x480?
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> nathanj: yeah try 640x480
[07:55] <Cynical> I have a toshiba satellite right here... thats got EDO ram and a 1 gig HDD
[07:55] <lewbing> ajax4,thanks,i am try again.thanks you.
[07:55] <Cynical> it won't run ubuntu
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: look in the hardware manager, see what it detects.
[07:56] <ubunt1> so after i enter su in the terminal
[07:56] <ubunt1> i type in
[07:56] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Removed. Should I re-install it now?
[07:56] <ku> BTW, I have a quick question: I just installed the Kubuntu desktop package on ubuntu... how do I switch between the two?
[07:56] <ubunt1> intelligi: ifconfig?
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: yes, re-install it now.
[07:56] <thoreauputic_> Cynical: 1 gig hdd needs a minimal ( server style no X) install and a light window manager
[07:56] <ajax4> clever: Have you tried running System > Administration > Update Manager?
[07:56] <maikol> how can i get java applets to run in firefox
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> ku: logout, then from the login manager, hit sessions and choose Gnome, then login.
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> !java > maikol
[07:56] <ajax4> maikol: Install the Java plugin.
[07:57] <clever> the update manager pops up every few days with random stuff like php and kernel upgrades
[07:57] <ajax4> !restricted > maikol
[07:57] <Cynical> oh yeah the screen is fuxored
[07:57] <thoreauputic_> Cynical: standard ubuntu uses at least 1.8 GIg
[07:57] <nathanj> fyrestrtr: same deal, shows mslal in middle of screen
[07:57] <clever> but it has yet to show a firefox upgrade
[07:57] <yaaar> word
[07:57] <ku> hmm, I didn't see anything when I logged out...
[07:57] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.
[07:57] <ku> I'll check harder... brb ^^
[07:57] <ubunt1> how do i get java for firefox
[07:57] <Brocolis> hi, i can't open the console by CTRL+ALT+F1. What sould be??
[07:57] <thoreauputic_> !java
[07:57] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:57] <maikol> thaks
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: hrmm, seems you need to recreate that script by hand.
[07:57] <ajax4> clever: If it hasn't shown a firefox upgrade then there are none available. You have to wait for Ubuntu to add upgrades to the repository.
[07:57] <shriphani> how do i set xfe as my default file manager ?
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: hrmm, try this. sudo touch /etc/init.d/mysql
[07:58] <clever> firefox 1.0.8 crashes on me alot
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> clever: you should have firefox 1.5 -- what ubuntu are you running?
[07:58] <dli> clever, 1.5.0.4 seems to be more stable
[07:58] <clever> breeze badger
[07:58] <Cynical> it detected 8281G High Definition Audio Controller
[07:58] <Brocolis> hi, i can't open the console by CTRL+ALT+F1. What could be??
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> Brocolis: try ctrl+alt+f2
[07:58] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Nothing happens. Just returns me to another command prompt.
[07:58] <col-panic> clever: breezy is sweet
[07:58] <mainer> shriphani: the new develpment of gnome-commander rocks here,well-intgrated also
[07:59] <Madpilot> clever, upgrade to Dapper, it's got 1.5.x
[07:59] <Brocolis> fyrestrtr: the screen blinks too
[07:59] <clever> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[07:59] <clever> /dev/hda1              18G   17G  147M 100% /
[07:59] <dli> Brocolis, do you have X running?
[07:59] <ajax4> clever: Yes, you should seriously consider upgrading.
[07:59] <col-panic> but no DRI for this card, so I bought an xubuntu cd for %5
[07:59] <ku> there ya go... thanks! ^^
[07:59] <col-panic> $5
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: yes, that's what its supposed to do. Now try installing it again.
[07:59] <clever> would daper fit in that:P?
[07:59] <Cynical> thats what it found
[07:59] <nathanj> fyrestrtr: any other idea ddcprobe doesnt output anything usful
[07:59] <Brocolis> dli: yes, it's runnung
[07:59] <shriphani> well rt. now i am using xfce and it has no trash
[07:59] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: un-install then re-install?
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> nathanj: sorry, I don't know anything beyond that :(
[07:59] <Cynical> its using HDA Intel
[07:59] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: It says it installs correctly, the terminal just shows the error and I noticed it.
[07:59] <shriphani> so anything that is deleted is permanently gone
[07:59] <clever> i dont think i could upgrade to dapper using just 147mb of free space
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: yeah remove it, and try it again.
[08:00] <shriphani> so i want to use the xfe file manager
[08:00] <col-panic> im running xubuntu dapper, and I had to install gnome-cups-manager to set up my printer.... such a dilemma lol
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: I don't know then, sorry. Try the alsa wiki page for clues.
[08:00] <ajax4> clever: You could try removing a bunch of packages to free space then reinstalling them in Dapper.
[08:00] <col-panic> clever: go with a minimal install and add what you want :)
[08:00] <Brocolis> :-(
[08:00] <mainer> clever: you ever delte your apt files?thru synaptic or apt-get clean??
[08:00] <mainer> delete
[08:00] <clever> how would i list the installed pakages sorted by size?
[08:00] <redblades> Hey all!
[08:00] <dli> Brocolis, if you didn't touch /etc/inittab, looks like a keyboard error, " dmesg|less " to have a look, or, " sudo less /var/log/Xorg.0.log "
[08:00] <col-panic> Ive used a couple of breezy packages in dapper, and some alien packages, but i try not to do that much
[08:00] <clever> cleaing
[08:00] <ajax4> shriphani: I use XFE also. Its a great lightweight file manager.
[08:00] <clever> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[08:00] <clever> /dev/hda1              18G   17G  314M  99% /
[08:01] <clever> little helpfull
[08:01] <col-panic> thunar ownz
[08:01] <shriphani> but how to set it as my default ajax4
[08:01] <col-panic> clever: I agree
[08:01] <dli> clever, try, " sudo apt-get clean "
[08:01] <ajax4> I like Thunar too :)
[08:01] <clever> how much would i need to upfrade to daper
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> clever: if you have  fast connection, you can delete the package tarballs (/var/cache/apt/archives/)
[08:01] <ajax4> shriphani: Hang on.
[08:01] <clever> and i used sudo -i then apt-get clean
[08:01] <shriphani> ok
[08:01] <ubunt1> whats the password for ubuntu after i type in 'su' in terminal
[08:01] <clever> fyrestrtr: i have dsl
[08:01] <Corporal_Dirge> My fstab has my swap partition listed as: /dev/hda6  none  swap  sw  0  0; Is that ok? (none especially)
[08:01] <clever> and i filled the drive with dl's of anime
[08:01] <col-panic> ubuntu1: gotta set a root password
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> ubunt1: its your own user password.
[08:02] <thoreauputic_> fyrestrtr: that's what apt-get clean does
[08:02] <col-panic> su is the root passwd
[08:02] <ubunt1> it doesn't work
[08:02] <col-panic> sudo is the user one.. i think
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> thoreauputic_: oh :)
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> ubunt1: use sudo not su
[08:02] <col-panic> i do 'sudo passwd root' then make one
[08:02] <ajax4> ubunt1: Root is diabled. Use 'sudo' instead and put in your own password when it asks.
[08:02] <mainer> ubunt1: sudo su
[08:02] <ajax4> ubunt1: disabled, that is
[08:02] <col-panic> sometime I need a root acct for administration *shrug*
[08:02] <mainer> thenpasswd
[08:02] <clever> fyrestrtr: that folder only has 14m of data
[08:02] <clever> dont see much point in emptying it
[08:02] <ubunt1> ahh
[08:02] <ubunt1> thanks gys
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> clever: delete your freakin' anime then.
[08:02] <ubunt1> guys
[08:02] <ajax4> col-panic: Instead, why not do 'sudo -i' if you need to go root?
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> clever: :P
[08:03] <clever> fyrestrtr: i normaly push it to other pc's
[08:03] <CamBeaudoin> hello all, I'm having trouble getting an auto-IP set up with my NIC. Is this a separate package? or am I simply not entering the correct commands?
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> or sudo bash
[08:03] <col-panic> ajax4: because 'su' is less letters :P
[08:03] <clever> now all my pc's are nearly full and theres no anime left on this pc
[08:03] <ironfroggy> how is that i am able to do /etc/init.d/ssh restart from an ssh session on that box, and not get interupted?
[08:03] <thoreauputic_> clever: uninstall open office - that should help ;-)
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> CamBeaudoin: what have you tried?
[08:03] <dli> clever, try, deborphan, " apt-get install deborphan "
[08:03] <clever> fyrestrtr:  sudo -i is better then sudo bash
[08:03] <Broadcast> How do i install windows Xp from linux
[08:03] <ajax4> col-panic: Then make a bash alias :)
[08:03] <Corporal_Dirge> My fstab has my swap partition listed as: /dev/hda6  none  swap  sw  0  0; Is that ok? (none especially) anyone?
[08:03] <clever> yeah removing openoffice may help
[08:03] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I have completely remove everything involved with MySQL. THe clients, the administrator program, the server, the common files; everything.
[08:03] <ubunt1> what directory should i send java to?
[08:03] <clever> i can just put it back when i need it if i need it
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> Broadcast: put the install cd in the drive, and reboot your machine. Then hit any key when your screen displays (hit any key to boot from CD...)
[08:04] <hapka> Hi corporal_dirge, i had trouble with my swap too, and I also wanted to know about java too :).
[08:04] <CamBeaudoin> I've connected to the new network device, then "ifdown -a" then "ifup -a" but it tried to connect to the old IP (my router) while I'm trying to connect direct to my dynamic IP modem
[08:04] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: sudo touch'ing the mysql dir still works, and when I uninstalled it said it did not remove it because it was not empty (which is why I removed it before)
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: again -- do ... not ... delete ... files ... manually. I hope you used synaptic.
[08:04] <Corporal_Dirge> hapka, I know a little about java.
[08:04] <ajax4> shriphani: Are you using Ubuntu with Gnome?
[08:04] <Broadcast> No, my cd isnt bootable
[08:04] <clever> how much would i need to upfrade to daper
[08:04] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I used Synaptic for all of this.
[08:04] <shriphani> ajax4, i am using xubuntu
[08:04] <hapka> kool, like ubun1 said, if i install java where should i put it?
[08:04] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Since you told me not to delete files I have not.
[08:05] <ironfroggy> ok what could be going on. ls commands are freezing up my terminal.
[08:05] <thoreauputic_> clever: if you just use open office for simple word processing it's probably overkill - abiword works quite well
[08:05] <ubunt1> i go with hapka
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: yeah but its what you deleted and messed with before you came in here that's causing problems :P
[08:05] <col-panic> alias su="sudo i" right? aint made an alias in a long time
[08:05] <clever> thoreauputic_: i use openoffice every now and then for spread sheets
[08:05] <ubunt1> what directory should i send java to?
[08:05] <hapka> su = sudo i think, i used it once so far to edit my boot file
[08:05] <clever> but i can take it out while upgrading to daper
[08:05] <ajax4> shriphani: I'm sure there is a way to make Xfe your default file manager but I can't seem to find it.
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> su = switch user
[08:05] <dli> clever, try gnumeric , it's smaller
[08:05] <_nick> unsure
[08:06] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I still think there is some other residual files being left behind. When I started adminitrator between one of these re-installs, I *still* get the error where it thinks I'm trying to make a duplicate user anytime I try to change anything.
[08:06] <thoreauputic_> clever: apt/synaptic whatever will tell you how much d/l space you need if you attempt a dist-upgrade
[08:06] <clever> i can just put openoffice back when im done changing over
[08:06] <hapka> i needed to login using sudo to edit a file that needed root
[08:06] <clever> ahh
[08:06] <mainer> su=root if you made it that way;sudo or sudo su=userpasswd
[08:06] <clever> su will ask for the root password
[08:06] <ubunt1> where should i send java to
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: why are you starting administrator when you are trying to fix mysql?!
[08:06] <clever> sudo will ask for your own password and make you root for a short while
[08:06] <thoreauputic_> clever: there's gnumeric for spreadsheets - I hear it's pretty good ( I don't use spreadsheets though)
[08:06] <clever> ubuntu has the root password disabled by default
[08:06] <Broadcast> fyrestrtr, it's not bootable
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: did you only install mysql from synaptic, or did you manually compile and install mysql?
[08:06] <col-panic> know how to set the su timeout? :)
[08:06] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: This was between re-installs. Administrator is the MySQL administrator.
[08:07] <ajax4> ubunt1: Doesn't it say in the directions?
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> Broadcast: then you'll need to get a boot floppy for Windows. Google it :)
[08:07] <col-panic> lol
[08:07] <clever> brb checking a few things
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: yes, I know what it is.
[08:07] <ubunt1> ajax4: not really
[08:07] <ajax4> !restricted
[08:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:07] <Corporal_Dirge> My fstab has my swap partition listed as: /dev/hda6  none  swap  sw  0  0; Is that ok? (none especially) anyone?
[08:07] <hapka> i am with ubunt1 - i dont know where to put java
[08:07] <hapka> do i make direectories for it?
[08:07] <ubunt1> ajax4: it just says change to the directory in which you want to install
[08:07] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I *also* manually installed a MySQL from the website, but someone earlier instructed me (I think?) in removing and deleting that. But I am not sure if it was successful.
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> hapka: what do you mean you don't know where to put it?
[08:07] <thoreauputic_> Corporal_Dirge: yes, that looks OK
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: oh geez.
[08:07] <ajax4> ubunt1: lemme check
[08:07] <humanpersonman> hapka, just use apt-get and it will put it where it needs to go
[08:08] <humanpersonman> !info sun-java5-bin
[08:08] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[08:08] <hapka> fyrestrtr, i dont know where i should put java, maybe in /user?
[08:08] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: That's where my problems really started. I somehow got two of them installed and haven't been able to get rid of the one still floating in the background somewhere.
[08:08] <Corporal_Dirge> The !fstab example shows it mounted somewhere...
[08:08] <hapka> i have /usr and /usr2
[08:08] <ignem> hello!
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> hapka: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:08] <thoreauputic_> Corporal_Dirge: it's mounted on "none" here
[08:08] <clever> thoreauputic_: i cant find dist-upgrade in synaptic
[08:08] <humanpersonman> hapka, make sure you have the extra repositories enabled and do 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin"
[08:08] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I'm trying to learn by doing. It sometimes involves breaking things. -_-
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: ps aux | grep mysql what do you see?
[08:08] <Broadcast> fyrestrtr, I need you to walk me through how to mount the ntfs
[08:08] <Broadcast> cause everytime it fails
[08:08] <thoreauputic_> clever: have you read the upgrade howto?
[08:08] <ajax4> ubunt1: Follow the directions on this page. Use the apt-get method. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[08:09] <thoreauputic_> !upgrade
[08:09] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> Broadcast: why are you mounting ntfs? You want to install Windows, or just read Windows files?
[08:09] <clever> where is it thoreauputic_ ?
[08:09] <ubunt1> ajax4: k
[08:09] <hapka> this place is noob vill because ppl come here because it's very hard learning linux i find ;)
[08:09] <Cynical> anyone got a Lexmark 8300 series printer working under Ubuntu?
[08:09] <Brocolis> dli: I didn't see any errors...It was ok until I install a wireles package :-(
[08:09] <Broadcast> No , i have all my files on an ntfs partition
[08:09] <Broadcast> and i dont wanna install windows
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: best place to look is linuxprinting.org
[08:09] <Broadcast> i just wanna read the ntfs
[08:09] <thoreauputic_> clever: see ubotu above
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> Broadcast: oooh, that's easier.
[08:09] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: vilkacis 10542 0.0 0.3 2932 740 pts/0 R+ 00:08 0:00 grep mysql
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> Broadcast: what have you tried so far that isn't working?
[08:09] <mainer> i'd use aptitude for dist-upgrades;handles dependencys on mega-pkgs better afaik
[08:09] <Broadcast> everything
[08:09] <ubunt1> ajax4: i can't find java in the add-remove
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: okay, nothing is running then.
[08:10] <Broadcast> tried installing packages to read ntfs
[08:10] <Broadcast> didnt work
[08:10] <hapka> ty ajax4 for that link, im going there now
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: now, where did you install mysql when you compiled it
[08:10] <Broadcast> tried mounting it
[08:10] <Broadcast> didnt work either
[08:10] <ajax4> ubunt1: Add the package: sun-java5-bin
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: wait, before you do that -- try typing this which mysql
[08:10] <mainer> Broadcast: try swapon
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> Broadcast: please be more specific than 'didn't work'
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work
[08:10] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:10] <ubunt1> ajax4: where do i add it?
[08:10] <dade`> is there a way to un-install all packages from repositories that are not in sources.list anymore, and re-install the ubuntu original version ?
[08:10] <ku> Can anyone help me to get amaroK to play mp3 files? I checked the wiki pages but it tells me to get two packs that don't exist: libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs
[08:10] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: "which mysql" returns nothing.
[08:10] <dade`> i had problems with connection
[08:10] <Broadcast> whats swapon
[08:11] <ajax4> ubunt1: Install it using the Synaptic Package Manager.
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: try sudo find / -name mysql*
[08:11] <ajax4> ubunt1: Have you installed packages before?
[08:11] <thoreauputic_> ku: they exist - you need to enable your repos
[08:11] <ubunt1> ajax4: no, its my first time on linux
[08:11] <clever> fyrestrtr: you often need to put paterns with *'s in them in ""'s when using find
[08:11] <thoreauputic_> ku: and w32codecs is only available from 3rd party repos
[08:11] <thoreauputic_> !codecs
[08:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:11] <xsquared> ubunt1, are you enjoying the experience so far? :D
[08:11] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Big list of files. Which ones are you looking for?
[08:11] <clever> if a file matching mysql* is in the current folder it will mess things up
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: anything in /usr/bin/ or anything like that?
[08:12] <ajax4> ubunt1: Run the Synaptic package manager. Click "Start" Menu > System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> clever: you mean literally matching mysql+asterisk ?
[08:12] <clever> yeah
[08:12] <nekostar> anyone know how to load ringtones to a slvr from ubuntu ??
[08:12] <ubunt1> ajax4: then i add it?
[08:12] <nekostar> or java homebrew /
[08:12] <nekostar> >?
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> clever: lol yeah that would make sense.
[08:12] <clever> if a file in the cwd matches the patern it will end up making bash give a file list
[08:12] <ku> thoreauputic_: in Adept, I went to the repositories and enabled all the ones that were shaded, but I still don't see it.
[08:12] <nekostar> or work with the itunes?
[08:12] <clever> so find then finds just those files
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> clever: but how often do you see a file ending in *
[08:12] <hapka> I am new to linux and I like gimp better then when I used gimp on windows because I don't remembe the happy faces :)
[08:12] <ajax4> ubunt1: Click the check mark next to that package, then make sure its marked for installation, then click "Apply" button
[08:12] <dade`> none knows how to help me ?
[08:13] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: /usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/mysql.vim, and some in /etc..
[08:13] <clever> no i mean matching the patern
[08:13] <ajax4> dade: What is your question?
[08:13] <xsquared> who here is using XGL/compiz full time? is it stablish? do you recommend it?
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: what in /etc ?
[08:13] <clever> fyrestrtr: go into a random folder touch mysql123 then find / -name mysql*
[08:13] <dli> Brocolis, if you have another box at hand, probably, you can live with it :) instead of console, you can ssh login
[08:13] <ajax4> xsquared: I stopped using it cuz of stability issues, but it seems to be stable for a lot of people.
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> xsquared: its not stablish -- its very beta software. However, I have been running it fulltime without problems on my nvidia-based system. On my ATI laptop, its very unstable.
[08:13] <thoreauputic_> ku: libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse
[08:14] <ironfroggy> anyone here familiar with the useful treeline program?
[08:14] <thoreauputic_> !repos > ku
[08:14] <ku> thoreauputic_: cool thanks, I'll check it out ^^
[08:14] <thoreauputic_> :)
[08:14] <ajax4> What is the preferred name for the Ubuntu "Start" button?
[08:15] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server, /etc/chon.daily/mysql-server-41, /etc/init.d/mysql, /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.workstation/mysql-server-4_1, /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/mysql-server-4_1, /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.paranoid/mysql-server-4_1, /etc/mysql
[08:15] <humanpersonman> ajax4, ubuntu doesn't have a start button, it has three seperate menus
[08:15] <hapka> its called the circle button lol, j/k i dont know
[08:15] <thoreauputic_> ku: w32codecs is available from ubuntu plf or seveas repos
[08:15] <dade`> ajax4, is there a way to un-install all packages from repositories that are not in sources.list anymore, and re-install the ubuntu original version ?
[08:15] <ajax4> humanpersonman: So what is the one with the main menu referred to as?
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: whoa, what's in /etc/mysql ?
[08:15] <xsquared> fyrestrtr, i have installed it before on my nvidia gpu box, and it seemed to be working well, however i couldn't play any games with it running. now that i want to stay away from games, im thinking of installing it again
[08:15] <humanpersonman> it is called menu bar on the add to panel thing
[08:16] <nekostar> '/media/usbdisk/iTunes/iPod_Control/iTunes
[08:16] <nekostar> :/
[08:16] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: debian.cnf, debiant-log-rotate.conf, debiant-start
[08:16] <ajax4> humanpersonman: is that the technical term then "add to panel thing" ? :_
[08:16] <ajax4> :)
[08:16] <humanpersonman> it says add to panel at the top
[08:16] <humanpersonman> i suppose add to panel dialogue
[08:16] <mainer> ku: they're also available at MPlayer's home page
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> xsquared: yeah, games don't play well (pun) with xgl. You can get some success with the switcher applet (find it in the compiz forums). It allows you to turn off and on compiz on the fly.
[08:16] <nekostar>   /media/usbdisk/iTunes/iTunes_Control  <<,--- correct on cell phone !_!
[08:16] <mainer> ajax4: gnome-menu
[08:16] <ajax4> dade: Hmmm...what are you trying to do?
[08:17] <xsquared> fyrestrtr, wow, i'll have a look, thanks for that tip
[08:17] <shriphani> how d i set xfe as the default file manager in xubuntu ?
[08:17] <ku> mainer: thanks, i'll check it out if I can't figure out .. .but I think I got it. Just saw this guide for the multiverse thing ^^
[08:17] <ajax4> mainer: So when I tell someone what buttons to push and menus to go to its correct to refer to the first button as the "gnome menu button"?
[08:17] <Broadcast> ok, got it to read
[08:17] <PKR_> How do I get permission to change files in /usr/lib/?
[08:17] <Broadcast> now i need to be able to write
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: your config files are probably in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[08:17] <hapka> I have a permission problem: My 2nd hard drive I am mounting with fstab (/dev/hdd1/usr2 ext3 defaults 0 0) doesn't allow me to make directories or folders. What do I need to do to do that, I want to store media files and games, but no executiables, ty.
[08:17] <ajax4> PKR_: sudo -i...that makes you root but be careful
[08:17] <humanpersonman> PKR_, do the changes in the terminal and start them with 'sudo'
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> PKR_: use sudo
[08:18] <PKR_> ok ill do that, thanks
[08:18] <thoreauputic_> PKR_: changing files in /usr/lib isn't usually a good idea unless you know exactly what you are doing :)
[08:18] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: There are also some mentions in /home/ that might be important. Most are reference files for things I will eventually be doing WITH MySQL, but there are some in /home/vilkacis/.mysqlgui/administrator/ that seem like they could mean something?
[08:18] <dade`> ajax4, i added some bad repositories, then upgraded, (repos of debian) and now i deleted those source from sources.list, but i suspect there are bad-packages around
[08:18] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: So what do I do with /etc/mysql/my.cnf?
[08:18] <Broadcast> so?
[08:18] <ironfroggy> why did it take so long for distros to start proactively prohibiting people from actually being logged in as root?
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> hapka: add 'user,ro' to the options column in fstab. Should work.
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: see which mysql binary its pointing to.
[08:18] <dade`> ajax4, i replaced some of them, but can't see everything
[08:18] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Are they hidden files I should be using something besides ls to see?
[08:18] <ajax4> dade: Hmm, I don't know the answer to that one.
[08:19] <hapka> Broadcast, are ou having troubles writing to your drive after mounting it?
[08:19] <mainer> ajax4: i'm in fluxbox a.t.m. but they should be self-explanatory,when clicking on them
[08:19] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: How do I do that?
[08:19] <dade`> :(
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: because it took a while for linux to get mainstream. Generally, people who used linux knew what root was.
[08:19] <ku> Got it.. Thanks guys ^^
[08:19] <humanpersonman> Vilkacis, do ls -a
[08:19] <ajax4> Vilkacis: use ls -a to see hidden files
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: sudo gedit /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[08:19] <thoreauputic_> ironfroggy: it isn't prohibited, just deprecated ( a lot!)
[08:19] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: There are no hidden files in /etc/mysql/
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> ironfroggy: I personally think it all started when Mac went to OSX
[08:20] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: gedit just opens up a blank file.
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: open up my.cnf and see what it states in there. It might tell you places where the mysql binary is located on your system. I don't know when you compiled mysql by hand where you put it, so now we have to do hunting for it.
[08:20] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: nope, it started when sudo became popular.  sun went to using sudo for its internal it stuff long before OSX
[08:20] <varun> if there are any kernel hackers - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18572
[08:20] <Broadcast> yeah
[08:20] <sproingie> well maybe not long before, but before anyway
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: okay, now when you just type mysql and hit enter, what do you get as a response? The same for mysqld
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: yeah, but sun isn't as popular as osx.
[08:21] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Either in /user/local/mysql-complicated-name-here, or in the home directory or root directory when I was trying it in su.
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> s/popular/mainstream/
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: anywhere
[08:21] <mainer> Vilkacis: as root updatedb,then locate -i mysql
[08:21] <sproingie> fyrestrtr: solaris still doesnt use sudo.  i meant sun's internal IT, and i bet other companies did the same.  linux culture is pretty well shaped by how it's used at work
[08:21] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Nono, I'm saying that's probably where I compiled it originally.
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: well look for it there, and delete it from there.
[08:22] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: mysql and mysqld return nothing.
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: okay, now close synaptic.
[08:22] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: It's been closed for awhile.
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: sudo apt-get update
[08:23] <weex> is there a difference between linux headers at 2.6.10-5 and 2.6.10-34 from a compiling ndiswrapper perspective?
[08:23] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Done.
[08:23] <Broadcast> ?
[08:23] <Vilkacis> mainer: What am I looking for in this locate?
[08:23] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I alter the fstab umask to allow 0777 options?
[08:24] <hapka> Hi Broadcast, are you having troubles writing to a drive too, you said yeah but i dont know who u were talking to.
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: sudo apt-get install mysql-client mysql-server
[08:24] <QMario> Is there a reason why sound refuses to work for Flash for Mozilla Firefox?
[08:24] <Corporal_Dirge> QMario, It works.
[08:24] <Broadcast> lol
[08:24] <QMario> Mine doesn't.
[08:24] <Broadcast> yeah
[08:24] <Broadcast> well
[08:24] <humanpersonman> Qmario, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186594&highlight=flash+howto+sound
[08:24] <Broadcast> i finally mounted the drive
[08:25] <hapka> me also
[08:25] <Broadcast> but i cant write to it
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> QMario: if you have something else playing sound, it might not work (especially if you have a built-in sound card). For those cases, check out !dmix
[08:25] <hapka> me either :D
[08:25] <Corporal_Dirge> QMario, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:25] <Corporal_Dirge> sudo update-flashplugin
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> Broadcast: ntfs writing is not well supported under ubuntu
[08:25] <hapka> Me and broad cast have the same trouble: My 2nd hard drive I am mounting with fstab (/dev/hdd1/usr2 ext3 defaults 0 0) doesn't allow me to make directories or folders. What do I need to do to do that, I want to store media files and games, but no executiables.
[08:25] <Broadcast> but it is possible
[08:25] <Broadcast> ?
[08:25] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I alter the fstab umask to allow 0777 options?
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> !captive
[08:25] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:25] <QMario> Okay, thank you Corporal_Dirge and humanpersonman!!! :)
[08:25] <humanpersonman> Corporal_Dirge, i think he has flash, the sound just isnt working
[08:26] <Corporal_Dirge> The update should help though
[08:26] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: It once again stopped a MySQL database so it could start the new one.
[08:26] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know abou umask in fstab?
[08:27] <hapka> Corporal_Dirge me
[08:27] <hapka> let me get the command
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: sudo rm -rf /var/lib/mysql* then try it again
[08:27] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Actually, no. Starting the new mysql database server failed. It could not connect at localhost, through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) It suggests I check to see if mysqld is running and if that the aformentioned socket exists.
[08:27] <hapka> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> Corporal_Dirge: man mount should tell you all you need to know
[08:27] <Corporal_Dirge> hapka, How do I allow 777 access to a partition?
[08:28] <hapka> Corporal_Dirge if you want to edit fstab then use this: sudo nano /etc/fstab, but i am also having trouble myself with permissions too
[08:28] <Corporal_Dirge> fyrestrtr, It doesn't allow changes, even as root. I need to change the fstab entry.
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: hrmm, that's something new then. Try this sudo mkdir /var/run/mysqld && sudo chown mysql:mysql /var/run/mysqld && sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[08:28] <Corporal_Dirge> I'm already editing it...
[08:28] <billybennett> QMario, have you figured out the flash problem?
[08:28] <ajax4> Corporal_Dirge: Try umask=000
[08:29] <billybennett> QMario, try closing all instances of firefox and then typing killall esd in console
[08:29] <billybennett> and then open firefox and see
[08:29] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Cannot create directory. '/var/run/mysqld' exists.
[08:29] <hapka> Does anyone know how I can write and rad to /usr2 , it is a drive I mounted but i have no permission.
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: ls -l /var/run/mysqld -- who is the owner and group?
[08:30] <humanpersonman> Qmario, what also works is closing the browser, closing anything that makes sound and then doing this 'sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart' but the solution I gave actually appears to fix it
[08:30] <ajax4> hapka: What does it say when you type: ls -l /media/
[08:30] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: It just says 'total 0'
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> QMario: you should install !dmix -- that might fix it.
[08:31] <humanpersonman> or you could install dmix
[08:31] <humanpersonman> but !dmix is probably good too
[08:31] <humanpersonman> probably similar
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: sorry, try ls -l /var/run/ -- then look at the owner and group column for mysqld
[08:31] <ajax4> hapka: Wait, you mounted your removable drive to /usr2?
[08:31] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I already removed /var/lib/mysql*, should I re-install..?
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: did you remove it after it reinstalled or before?
[08:31] <billybennett> what dmix?  I had a similar problem earlier.. I had sound working and then all of a sudden gone... and I found out killall esd worked.. but whats this dmix
[08:31] <hapka> ajax4 it says this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    6 2006-07-21 00:00 cdrom -> cdrom0
[08:31] <hapka> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-07-21 00:00 cdrom0
[08:31] <QMario> Okay, thank you all!!! :)
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> billybennett: virtural mixer. Gives more than one channel to your soundcard so two streams can play simultaneously.
[08:32] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: After, like you told me to.
[08:32] <hapka> aja4 i mounted a 2nd hard drive to /usr2
[08:32] <hapka> :)
[08:32] <ajax4> hapka: What does it say when you type: ls -l /usr2
[08:32] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: mysqld says mysql then root.
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: *sigh*
[08:32] <sioux> hi
[08:32] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: " sudo rm -rf /var/lib/mysql* then try it again"
[08:33] <ajax4> hapka: wait
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-client mysql-server && sudo apt-get install mysql-client mysql-client -- do not touch anything after that, and tell me the results of the install.
[08:33] <hapka> ajax4, it says this when I do ls -l /usr2: drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2006-07-21 16:12 lost+found
[08:33] <IseeIsee> how can I give all users read/execute permission on a directory ?
[08:33] <linux_user400351> i accidentally overwrote a directory by renaming another directory to the same name. is there anyway to get it back without paying a lot of money for commercial software?
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: of course, that second mysql-client is actually mysql-server
[08:33] <humanpersonman> IseeIsee, sudo chmod 777 -R directory
[08:33] <sioux> Hi people I can't install compiz-gnome due to libpango dependency :-( who can help me?
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-client mysql-server && sudo apt-get install mysql-client mysql-server
[08:33] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Ah, OK, I was about to ask.
[08:34] <humanpersonman> IseeIsee, my bad, not that
[08:34] <IseeIsee> humanpersonman what will this command do ?
[08:34] <hapka> ok
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> sioux: the fine people in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:34] <pimeja> Is it in XChat something like bookmarks for channels and server?
[08:34] <humanpersonman> IseeIsee, you only want to give them read/execute not write?
[08:34] <IseeIsee> humanpersonman: write as well
[08:35] <humanpersonman> ok for that then do that command I gave you
[08:35] <phire> I installed realplayer, but now I can't get sound, I had it before, and other apps have sound, but real player doesn't
[08:35] <humanpersonman> replacing directory with the actual directory
[08:35] <IseeIsee> write, let me try
[08:35] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: Still stopped mysqld and then started mysqld, but it worked this time.
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: good, now try this to make sure its working
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> mysql -u root -p and hit enter, when it asks you for a password, just hit enter -- you should get the mysql> prompt
[08:36] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I do.
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> great, now you are up and running again.
[08:36] <IseeIsee> hummanpersonman: how can I check whether command was succesfully executed ?
[08:37] <ajax4> hapka: did you get my PM?
[08:37] <humanpersonman> IseeIsee, cd directory
[08:37] <humanpersonman> then do ls
[08:37] <jcorrea920> hello everyone
[08:37] <humanpersonman> everything in there should be green
[08:37] <hapka> no ajax4 :((i dont hink i did, let me check i am new to gaim
[08:37] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: If I install administrator and the query browser, will that cause problems?
[08:37] <ajax4> hapka: No, its in another irc window.
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: no, those don't affect mysql.
[08:38] <Cynical> alsa says it supports my chipset but it won't build the damn driver
[08:38] <humanpersonman> IseeIsee, or actually you ought to do this command "ls -l directory"
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: you can install those even if you don't have the mysql server on the machine (you can use them solely for remote mysql server tasks)
[08:38] <hapka> i dont think i did ajax4
[08:38] <hapka> i can message myself though
[08:38] <ajax4> hapka: Give me the output of this: ls -ld /var*
[08:38] <airzer0> hi diddly doo to you
[08:39] <Sola6662> yo does any1 know what .ink files are for?
[08:39] <ajax4> ajax4: I just need the line with /var2 on it
[08:39] <varun0> is there someway to use apt-get to find out the version of a particular package?
[08:39] <humanpersonman> IseeIsee, when you do ls -l, they should all have rwxrwxrwx in front of them
[08:39] <hapka> output is this: admin@admin-desktop:~$ ls -ld /var*
[08:39] <hapka> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2006-05-30 21:02 /var
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> Sola6662: first guess, inkscape :)
[08:39] <Dewbie> to spill all over the floor///
[08:39] <Sola6662> xD
[08:39] <IseeIsee> humanpersonman: yeah they have, but the problem I was facing still does not solves
[08:39] <Sola6662> good 1
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> varun0: I think you can do it with dpkg
[08:39] <Lobster> Sola6662, i think that are MS Windows Links
[08:39] <Dewbie> or your monitor
[08:40] <Lobster> p.e.  a desktoip icon
[08:40] <Sola6662> can thay be deleted?
[08:40] <airzer0> is it plug'd in ?
[08:40] <Sola6662> i got some on my desktop by useing wine to install programs?
[08:40] <IseeIsee> humanpersonman: may be you can solve it, open this page http://eclipseme.org/docs/installation.html & read under the heading "Install the Wireless Toolkit", thats what I'm trying to acheive
[08:40] <clarity_> yo... what's up with new_ath_pci is it ubuntu's custom madwifi?
[08:40] <Dewbie> Ive never heard of .ink files
[08:40] <ajax4> varun0: Type this: aptitude show packagename
[08:41] <airzer0> hi
[08:41] <hapka> hi
[08:41] <airzer0> how are you
[08:41] <hapka> bad :(
[08:41] <phire> How do I install w32codecs for mplayer?
[08:41] <airzer0> ;(
[08:41] <ajax4> hapka: What about the /var2 line?
[08:41] <hapka> u?
[08:41] <varun0> fyrestrtr, ajax4 : much thanks!
[08:41] <airzer0> g00d
[08:41] <ajax4> !restricted
[08:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:41] <hapka> admin@admin-desktop:~$ ls -ld /var2
[08:41] <hapka> ls: /var2: No such file or directory
[08:41] <hapka> this is the output for var 2
[08:41] <ajax4> phire: Follow that link
[08:42] <hapka> airzer0 are you new too, im new :)
[08:42] <humanpersonman> IseeIsee, it should work
[08:42] <phire> thanks
[08:42] <humanpersonman> all users have all permissions now
[08:42] <airzer0> check this out www.windows.com
[08:42] <ajax4> hapka: You need to mount that drive
[08:42] <Lobster> Sola6662, if you install something it will install a desktop shotcut wich is actually a .ink file
[08:42] <airzer0> yea me too
[08:42] <ajax4> varun0: np
[08:42] <Sola6662> Lobster can i delete them,
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <LoRez> Warning: `airzer0' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <IseeIsee> humanpersonman: ideally thats what I think to but I still fail to build
[08:42] <Lobster> sure
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <hapka> :O
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[08:42] <airzer0> n00b
[08:42] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:42] <Sola6662> thx
[08:42] <regeya> wow.
[08:43] <regeya> the stuff I don't see by never being here at 2 a.m. anymore.
[08:43] <humanpersonman> IseeIsee, perhaps it is another problem
[08:43] <Sola6662> yay i have clean desktop
[08:43] <IseeIsee> no its the same problem: the toolkit is even mentioning the same file java.io.IOException: java.io.IOException: /media/hda7/wtk2.2/bin/preverify: cannot execute
[08:43] <hapka> ajax4 I'm not sure what i'm suppose to mount, the drive is already moutned.
[08:44] <aqau_inter_fly> hello everyone
[08:44] <ajax4> hapka: Is it a removable usb drive?
[08:44] <hapka> ajax4 it is a hard drive :)
[08:44] <nosotros> i need a problem with gizmo project, may anyone help me?
[08:44] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I installed Administrator and the Query browser, that's all. I started up administrator and went to User Administration to change my password. There is already a password there (astericks), and if I try to change it I get an error that says 'Duuplicate user name, please enter another name.'
[08:44] <nosotros> i have a problem with gizmo project, may anyone help me?
[08:44] <ajax4> hapka: If the mount point was /var2 and it was mounted then you should be able to enter the /var2 directory.
[08:45] <ardy> help whenever I start to bootup Ubuntu Desktop cd, this message comes out "uncompressing Linux... ok, booting ther kernel. [4294671.945000] .. MP-BIOS bug:8254 timer not connected to 10-APIC"
[08:45] <hapka> ajax4 the mount point was usr2
[08:45] <hapka> ajax4 :))
[08:45] <nosotros> i have a problem with gizmo project, may anyone help me?
[08:45] <ajax4> hapka: Heheh, sorry! Try ls -ld /usr* and give me the line with /usr2 on it
[08:45] <humanpersonman> IseeIsee, in concept the permissions of the files are not at fault, maybe you ought to try giving them permissions before you do any installation or any action (i.e. delete everything and start from scratch giving everything the appropriate permissions first)
[08:46] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: ANYTIME I create a user and attempt to edit the schema privileges, I am told when I apply the changes that it's a duplicate user.
[08:46] <humanpersonman> I had to do that with azureus, when i was trying to install plugins without the appropriate permissions
[08:46] <hapka> ajax4: kool, here's the permissions drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2006-07-21 16:12 /usr2
[08:46] <IseeIsee> humanpersonman: but these files appear after the toolkit is installed
[08:47] <ajax4> hapka: And now do this one: cat /etc/fstab | grep /usr2
[08:47] <thoreauputic_> ;-)
[08:47] <hapka> ajax4: ok i did that :)
[08:47] <Vilkacis> xcglj vkdf;lks
[08:48] <ajax4> hapka: What is the output?
[08:48] <hapka> ajax4: here's what it said: /dev/hdd1       /usr2               ext3    defaults  0       0
[08:48] <ajax4> hapka: Edit the fstab file and change defaults to: default,umask=000
[08:48] <ardy> help whenever I start to bootup Ubuntu Desktop cd, this message comes out "uncompressing Linux... ok, booting ther kernel. [4294671.945000] .. MP-BIOS bug:8254 timer not connected to 10-APIC"
[08:48] <ajax4> hapka: umm that should be defaults,umask=000
[08:49] <hapka> ajax4: ok :))
[08:49] <humanpersonman> IseeIsee, permissions aren't the problem, i have no idea though why it isn't working
[08:49] <Vilkacis> Anyone else have any expertise in mysql?
[08:49] <IseeIsee> humanpersonman: i'm stuck on this problem since 2 days :)
[08:50] <phire> Vilkaceis, I have a little
[08:50] <Vilkacis> phire: Any idea why administrator will not let me change passwords or schema? Everytime, it says I cannot do it because it's a duplicate user name. It's like saying I cannot change the user because it already exists.
[08:51] <ajax4> hapka: Now unmount and remount that partition then do: sudo chmod 777 /usr2
[08:51] <bilss_> hi
[08:52] <RedGhost> hey when i try to watch videos like on say youtube i get video but no sound, is there an audio codec pack??
[08:52] <hapka> ajax4: the line is now /dev/hdd1       /usr2               ext3    defaults,umask=000 0       0, how do i unmount i i only learned sudo :)
[08:52] <Vilkacis> phire: is there a better mysql gui I could be using?
[08:52] <phire> what are you useing?
[08:52] <bilss_> DBO: ok its done coffee machine installed in downstaris  main enterence
[08:52] <ajax4> hapka: umount /usr2 then do mount /usr2
[08:52] <hapka> ajax4: ty :)
[08:52] <Vilkacis> phire: MySQL Administrator and MySQL Query Browser.
[08:53] <phire> you could try phpmyadmin
[08:53] <schmakk> i have a box running kde and gnome, starting with installing ubuntu.. if i want to try out Xfce4 too, do i just do apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and then have something magic happen that makes it work?
[08:53] <Vilkacis> phire: But Administrator will not let me change anything about the users I create. It insists they are duplicates. Is there a command-line I could use to just give all privledges to a user?
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> Vilkacis: check what users you have from the mysql client
[08:53] <Vilkacis> phire: That is, I assume, in synaptic?
[08:53] <fredl> Hello. I have recently upgraded to 6.06 and am using fglrx, but the display driver seems to cause my system to crash sometimes.
[08:53] <thoreauputic_> schmakk: it will work - just choose it at login
[08:54] <phire> It should be
[08:54] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: The what? I only know of administrator and the query browser. Where is the client?
[08:54] <schmakk> thoreauputic_, so there will just be an xfce session to choose, like there was with installing kubuntu-desktop?
[08:54] <thoreauputic_> schmakk: yup
[08:54] <hapka> ajax4: it is asking for file system type for mount, i forget where to put that
[08:54] <fredl> anybody else here using the fglrx driver for X with a PCI Express ATI X740 card by any chance?
[08:55] <schmakk> thoreauputic_, awesome, im gonna mess with that then =)
[08:55] <thoreauputic_> :)
[08:55] <xarq> is the usbnet-module part of ubuntu dapper by default?
[08:55] <Vilkacis> fyrestrtr: I know I *installed* it (the mysql client), as it was listed in Synaptic. But it's not in my applications menu and if I try to add applications it does not show up there either.
[08:55] <ajax4> hapka: The file system is already specified in the fstab. Most likely you have to be root to mount/unmount. Try sudo umount /usr2 then sudo mount /usr2
[08:56] <bilss_> someone please give me some feedback on this http://pastebin.ca/95687
[08:56] <thoreauputic_> Vilkacis: mysql is not a gui
[08:56] <fredl> I get a lot of messages in my xorg.log like:
[08:56] <fredl> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card1
[08:56] <fredl> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
[08:56] <hapka> ajax4 ok, i think it worked :)
[08:57] <Vilkacis> thoreauputic_: I know this, I am trying to find a gui that works.
[08:57] <uXp> who uses Xchat here?
[08:57] <ajax4> hapka: Now do sudo chmod 777 /usr2
[08:57] <fredl> in fact, I think the driver tries to open /dev/dri/card0 - /dev/dri/card254
[08:57] <uXp> ok
[08:57] <bilss_> DBO: any ideas
[08:57] <uXp> How do you edit so I can connect to a server with a password on startup?
[08:58] <IseeIsee> humanpersonman: how can I convert that directory back to previous state as in the way it was before giving all read/execute rights
[08:58] <hapka> ajax4: ok, i did that too it seemd to work
[08:58] <fredl> brb
[08:58] <Lobster> in the server-list edit and there is a entry "connection password"
[08:58] <thoreauputic_> Vilkacis: apt-cache search mysql GUI admin  <-- might help ( mysql-admin appears to be one option )
[08:58] <ajax4> bilss_: Its hard to discern from the pastebin what your specific question is.
[08:58] <noiesmo> uXp, open server list click on server then click edit and you can enter info
[08:58] <bilss_> ajax4: ok let me make it clear
[08:58] <ajax4> hapka: type ls -ld /usr* and post the line that has /usr2 in it
[08:59] <Vilkacis> thoreauputic_: Only returns the administrator (which I am already having problems with) and it's common files.
[08:59] <hapka> ajax4: :D drwxrwxrwx  2 root root 4096 2006-07-21 16:34 /usr2
[08:59] <Vilkacis> thoreauputic_: Do you know how to give a user all schema priviledges just by the command line?
[08:59] <hapka> ajax4: i think that worked because i did some research on those letters :))
[08:59] <ajax4> hapka: Okay, good it says that all users can enter, read, and write files to that directory. You should be good to go.
[08:59] <Dirge> Anyone know how to give write access to users of an external HDD??
[08:59] <hapka> ajax4: ty :D :D: D
[09:00] <thoreauputic_> Vilkacis: sorry, I have no mysql experience - someone else might know
[09:00] <ajax4> hapka: No problem :)
[09:00] <ajax4> Dirge: You have to edit your fstab file and put the right umask in there.
[09:00] <_atomic> sup?
[09:00] <ajax4> bilss_: Go ahead
[09:00] <Dirge> ajax4, What umask? 000?
[09:01] <_atomic> not sure
[09:01] <ajax4> Dirge: Yep
[09:01] <Dirge> ajax4, And if that doesn't work?
[09:01] <ajax4> Dirge: Come back here and tell us what happened :)
[09:01] <xarq> !usbnet
[09:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about usbnet - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:02] <Dirge> ajax4, Ok, I'm back
[09:02] <Dirge> It's unchanged
[09:02] <ajax4> Dirge: What is unchanged?
[09:02] <Dirge> ajax4, Permissions.
[09:02] <ajax4> Dirge: You have to also set the permissions of the directory you mounted it to.
[09:02] <Dirge> ok, that's done too
[09:03] <bilss_> i have this program called suck (small newsfeed from an NNTP server with standard NNTP commands) and the bit where it says > output at end of suck and  > /etc/suck/sucknewsrc: Permission denied  and > Moving newsrc to backup: Permission denied  is a reply to a email i sent the bits below are instructiond on what to do this is the part i do not know how to do
[09:03] <ajax4> Dirge: Is the dir set to 777?
[09:03] <Dirge> yes
[09:03] <ajax4> Dirge: Post the relevant line from your fstab file
[09:03] <Dirge> /dev/sda1	/media/MobileDisk vfat	defaults,umask=000 0	0
[09:03] <Vilkacis> Does anyone have any mysql experience?
[09:03] <ajax4> Vilkacis: I have some
[09:04] <ajax4> Dirge: Is the disk mounted?
[09:04] <Dirge> yes
[09:04] <bilss_> ajax4: i have this program called suck (small newsfeed from an NNTP server with standard NNTP commands) and the bit where it says > output at end of suck and  > /etc/suck/sucknewsrc: Permission denied  and > Moving newsrc to backup: Permission denied  is a reply to a email i sent the bits below are instructiond on what to do this is the part i do not know how to do
 Dirge: Is the dir set to 777?
[09:04] <Vilkacis> ajax4: 1) What GUI do you use, if any? 2) Can you instruct me in giving all schema priviledges to a user using the command-line?
[09:04] <cpk2> Vilkacis: try going to #mysql ?
[09:04] <Vilkacis> ...there's a channel? XD
[09:04] <Dirge> bilss_, yes
[09:05] <fredl> anybody aware of fglrx troubles in Dapper?
[09:05] <farous_> fredl: working here no prob
[09:05] <bilss_> Dirge: sorry inot my post strange
[09:05] <cpk2> anyone know if there is a way to remove almost all of my packages except pretty much my windows manager?
[09:06] <fredl> what kind of card do you have farous?
[09:06] <ajax4> Vilkacis: I use the same one that was just mentioned...and I don't have much exp. with stuff required for your second requirement.
[09:06] <farous_> 9600
[09:06] <regeya> cpk2: start removing packages. ;-)
[09:06] <Dirge> /dev/sda1	/media/MobileDisk vfat	defaults,umask=000 0	0 folder is 777, remounted. nothing, still rwxr-xr-x
[09:06] <Vilkacis> #mysql is sadly quiet and empty-seeming... -_-
[09:06] <ajax4> Dirge: What are the owner and group for the mount point?
[09:07] <cpk2> regeya: over a thousand... dont want to spend that much time =\
[09:07] <Vilkacis> ajax4: Ever have problems giving permissions to a user?
[09:07] <fredl> farous_: Hmm. are you on Dapper?
[09:07] <cpk2> and trust me regeya i've considered it
[09:07] <Dirge> root and plugdev?
[09:07] <linux_user400351> how can i install an older version of xfce in xubuntu?
[09:07] <farous_> fredl: i have used it on breezy and dapper no prob
[09:07] <ajax4> Vilkacis: Yeah, I'm not too familiar with all that. I mostly use it for my own personal box.
[09:07] <dli> linux_user400351, you can not :(
[09:07] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: I'm seeing bogus characters in that line here - did you use spaces ? I'm seeing "I" for some reason between the fields
[09:07] <dli> linux_user400351, downgrading is not recommended
[09:08] <Dirge> ajax4, root and plugdev
[09:08] <noiesmo> Vilkacis, for mysql there is phpmyadmin a web based gui for mysql also mysql-admin
[09:08] <fredl> farous_: On Breezy everything worked fine for me too. Dapper is unstable with fglrx 8.25.18 on my X740 card
[09:08] <Dirge> thoreauputic_, I's?
[09:08] <ajax4> Dirge: Have you tried adding users you want to have access to the plugdev group?
[09:08] <bilss_> ajax4: did you see my post
[09:09] <farous_> fredl: it might be xorg-7 for that is the only change that is relevent
[09:09] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: the spaces in your fstab line are showing as highlighted "I" in irssi
[09:09] <fredl> farous_: In fact it doesn't tell me it's an X740 card, it says (--) Chipset RADEON X700 PRO (RV410 5E4B) found
[09:09] <farous_> fredl: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <Dirge> ajax4, Isn't that just a duct-tape solution to permissions being broken?
[09:09] <linux_user400351> dli, im sure theres a way to do it
[09:09] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: just wondering how you edited that line...
[09:09] <fredl> farous_: Nope, should that not be done after the upgrade to Dapper if it's required?
[09:09] <Dirge> ajax4, I don't want to give all basic users plugdev grouping.
[09:10] <Dirge> thoreauputic_, Whch line?
[09:10] <fredl> farous_: BTW, if I stop talking in the middle of the conversation, my system has hung :)
[09:10] <linux_user400351> dli, i could download the source code, compile it, and install it
[09:10] <ajax4> Dirge: Well, the plugdev group was added to control permissions to external hard drives on a user-by-user basis...so its there for a reason.
[09:10] <farous_> fredl: xorg7 have changed where files are stored. if you had a custom configured xorg.conf file it might cause prob
[09:10] <thoreauputic_> Dirge:  /dev/sda1I/media/MobileDisk vfatIdefaults,umask=000 0I0
[09:10] <ajax4> Dirge: But yeah, we should be able to bypass that.
[09:11] <Vilkacis> noiesmo: mysql-admin is giving me nothing but problems when I try to give priviledges.
[09:11] <ajax4> bilss_: Are you just looking for how to edit the /etc/sucknewsrc file?
[09:11] <fredl> farous_: ok, let me see if that helps...
[09:11] <farous_> fredl: i had other issues with dapper though but not with fglrx
[09:11] <farous_> fredl: back xorg.conf file first
[09:11] <Dirge> thoreauputic_, Those are tabs
[09:11] <noiesmo> Vilkacis, i only really use phpmyadmin i noticed you asked about gui for mysql
[09:11] <fredl> farous_: ok..
[09:11] <dli> linux_user400351, if you are such a smart ass, just dont use ubuntu
[09:12] <farous_> good luck :)
[09:12] <noiesmo> Vilkacis, sorry i havent used mysql-admin so im not sure but does the user you are login in as have GRANT permissions
[09:12] <nol13> fredl: is your can someone help me i have a problem?
[09:13] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: OK - seems odd that they show that way - haven't seen that before
[09:13] <Dirge> This is really frustrating. Windows would have everything running in 5 seconds, but I've been on this for 2 weeks.
[09:13] <userundefine> Dirge, what are you trying to do ?
[09:13] <nol13> fredl: is your last initial L.?
[09:14] <bilss_> ajax4: i think so what i do not understand is where it says chown news [name of your script]  and [your script]  is the path and name of that script which call suck and finally chmod 777 etc/suck/sucknewsrc   you see in the pastebin how the suck direstory looks
[09:14] <Dirge> userundefine, Let people use the external hdd.
[09:14] <nol13> my computer has probs, can anyone help?
[09:14] <farous> dridge it take time to adjust did you try help.ubuntu.com
[09:14] <Dirge> userundefine, So far it only let's me use rwxr-xr-x
[09:14] <linux_user400351> dli, whatever
[09:14] <ajax4> bilss_: If you want to change permissions of the file, just type this: sudo chmod 777 /etc/suck/sucknewsrc
[09:14] <userundefine> Dirge, you can't chmod it 777 ?
[09:15] <noiesmo> Dirge, the extrenal drive is fat 32 not ntfs
[09:15] <Dirge> farous, I've been reading thousands of pages, literally.
[09:15] <Sola6662> New Distribution Release 6.06 LTS is available
[09:15] <nol13> i cant get any porn, or it wont play, or something i dunno
[09:15] <Sola6662> whats new?
[09:15] <Dirge> noiesmo, It's fat32
[09:15] <Dirge> userundefine, I have, but still no write
[09:15] <Vilkacis> noiesmo: I log in as root. I should hope it has that. How can I check or add it?
[09:15] <dli> nol13, get out of here
[09:15] <bilss_> ajax4: ok thanks what about the chown part?
[09:15] <userundefine> Dirge, for root or users ?
[09:15] <Vilkacis> noiesmo: And I have just added phpmyadmin, how do I use it?
[09:15] <farous> Dirge: if i may ask what is the problem you face
[09:16] <Sola6662> whats new in 6.06 LTS
[09:16] <Dirge> userundefine, For everyone, root has access
[09:16] <Dirge> farous, No write for group or user
[09:16] <ajax4> bilss_: That changes who owns the file. So do: sudo chown OWNERNAME /etc/suck/sucknewsrc
[09:16] <nol13> dli, sorry, my new installation is having problems in the proccessing of video media files
[09:17] <farous> Dirge: no write permission you mean on what on your home dir or a mounted partition
[09:17] <Dirge> fstab -> /dev/sda1	/media/MobileDisk vfat	defaults,umask=000 0	0
[09:17] <dli> nol13, get restricted formats, get win32codecs
[09:17] <farous> Dirge: so you want to write to fat32 partiton is that it or an ntfs one
[09:18] <bilss_> ajax4; ok thanks would be my user name for example "bliss" or is it "news"
[09:18] <noiesmo> Vilkacis, should be http://localhost/phpMyAdmin
[09:18] <Dirge> farous, That's it.
[09:18] <nol13> dli, thx ill try that. but where do i get the porn?
[09:18] <fredl> brb
[09:18] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: is this a USB drive? If so it should just work when you plug it in
[09:18] <ajax4> bilss_: Usually it doesn't matter, if you changed the permissions to 777 anyone would have permission to read/write/execute that file
[09:18] <Dirge> thoreauputic_, You'd thing.
[09:18] <Dirge> thoreauputic_, You'd think.
[09:18] <dli> nol13, this channel doesn't cover that
[09:18] <Vilkacis> noismo: Does not work..
[09:19] <Dirge> This is Ubuntu. even viewing images is made difficult.
[09:19] <ajax4> Dirge: I can't see why its not working. Is the drive in good working order?
[09:19] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: try  tail -f /var/log/messages  , then plufg it in and see what lands in that file
[09:19] <thoreauputic_> *plug
[09:19] <farous> Dirge: normally root has write permission to fat32 let me see how you can modify your fstab for regular user to write to it
[09:19] <Dirge> ajax4, Works fine writing as root
[09:19] <bilss_> ajax4: ok so which command should i execute first in the pastebin it says chown then chmod?
[09:20] <Dirge> farous, I can write to fstab fine.
[09:20] <ajax4> Dirge: I had a drive with a vfat partition on it and the drive was going out...it would switch to read-only for no reason. It was posessed :)
[09:20] <nol13> dli, na man i am running ubuntu
[09:20] <ajax4> bilss_: What is the name and location of your script?
[09:20] <Dirge> ajax4, It's new and works fine.
[09:21] <farous> Dirge: i was talking about your fat partition root has write permission to it for regular users to write to it there are parameters to be put in your fstab file
[09:21] <aqau_inter_fly> hello everyone i'm trying to install ntfs-3g, and when i run ./configure, it says i need to install fuse, so i install fuse and it still says i don't have fuse installed when i do ./configure
[09:21] <yuriok1> hello who use modem ale 150?
[09:21] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: if it's a USB drive it will only be sda1 if it's the first usb device you plug in
[09:21] <aqau_inter_fly> does anyone know about this
[09:21] <ajax4> aqau_inter_fly: Is there a library that goes with fuse you need to install?
[09:22] <dli> aqau_inter_fly, apt-get install libfuse2-dev
[09:22] <userundefine> Dirge, I think your umask is missing a 0.  Try this : umask=0000    0 0
[09:22] <aqau_inter_fly> dli: okay
[09:22] <Dirge> thoreauputic_, I know, but it's not as easy as it seems. I plugged it in and found I had no write priv.
[09:22] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: dmesg | tail or tail -f /var/log/messages might give you a clue as to what the system thinks it is
[09:22] <dli> aqau_inter_fly, sorry, it's libfuse-dev
[09:23] <fredl> farous_: that didn't help at all :P
[09:23] <Dirge> userundefine, added the 0, umounted and mounted. Nothing.
[09:23] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: USB devices don't normally need /etc/fstab entries
[09:23] <ajax4> bilss_: If your script is /etc/suck/sucknewsrc then just do: sudo chmod 777 /etc/suck/newsrc...then do: sudo chown root /etc/suck/newsrc
[09:23] <bilss_> ajax4; ok thats a good question i just installed suck with apt-get, i wonder if he is refering to the crontab line which goes like this bilss_: That changes who owns the file. So do: sudo chown OWNERNAME /etc/suck/sucknewsrc    do you think its this script?
[09:23] <farous> fredl: do you have the linux-restricted-modules package installed
[09:23] <nol13> is it true that in linux you can go to any porn site and not get a virus?
[09:23] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: they are handled by hal and udev IIRC
[09:24] <varun0> !xfce > varun0
[09:24] <Dirge> thoreauputic_, Well it put itself in. So I wanted to edit it since it never gave mr write.
[09:24] <thoreauputic_> nol13: lol - yes
[09:24] <ajax4> bilss_: My guess is that is the script if the support email used that as an example...what does it say when you type those commands?
[09:24] <varun0> how is installing xubuntu-desktop different from installing xfce4?
[09:24] <shriphani> how do i create a shortcut to .Trash on my desktop
[09:24] <fredl> farous_: yup.
[09:24] <bilss_> ajax4 : sorry about that
[09:24] <dli> nol13, there's no virus in linux practically, just keep in mind, don't use root to surf
[09:24] <thoreauputic_> varun0: xubuntu-desktop has extra goodies
[09:24] <ajax4> bilss_: its cool
[09:25] <farous> fredl: perhaps its the driver then so you are using the mesa driver now?
[09:25] <ajax4> shriphani: Do you mean you want the trashcan on your desktop?
[09:25] <thoreauputic_> varun0: abiword, thunar I think, xfmedia
[09:25] <thoreauputic_> varun0: apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop  to see
[09:25] <fredl> farous_: how can I tell if I'm using the mesa driver?
[09:25] <varun0> thoreauputic_: much thanks!
[09:25] <userundefine> Dirge, hrm, well, sorry.  Maybe try the forums for someone more experienced with that setup than myself
[09:25] <bilss_> ajax4:  ok thats a good question i just installed suck with apt-get, i wonder if he is refering to the crontab  line which goes like this */44 * * * * suck nntp.aioe.org -A -bp -hl localhost -c -i 200 -M -n -Q
[09:25] <farous> fredl: flgrxinfo
[09:25] <farous> fglrxinfo sorry
[09:25] <ajax4> Dirge: I don't see why its not working either.
[09:26] <Dirge> userundefine, It takes an expert to write to a USB disk??
[09:26] <farous> and what is your complain again of your fglrx driver?
[09:26] <fredl> farous_: where would you prefer seen the output of that?
[09:26] <fredl> seeing.
[09:26] <ajax4> Dirge: It should work out of the box
[09:26] <farous> !pastebin
[09:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:26] <userundefine> Dirge, I don't have any problems writing to them.  Just trying to help...
[09:26] <farous> fredl: use the pastebin
[09:26] <nol13> cool, but when i go there i think my java is running
[09:26] <farous> fredl: and it will tell you what driver it use
[09:26] <xange> what can I use for format a USB Drive from NTFS to Ext2?
[09:26] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: something is wrong - it should by default pop up nautilus and allow read write - is the hardware at fault perhaps?
[09:26] <Dirge> ajax4, Nothing about ubuntu worked out of the box, I've been fighting for a month to get it working.
[09:27] <ajax4> bilss_: That crontab line doesn't refer to your local files, so I don't think thats it
[09:27] <aqau_inter_fly> dli: the ntfs-3g configure still says i don't have it installed
[09:27] <Dirge> thoreauputic_, the hardware works in OSX and WIndows. So it's Ubuntu
[09:27] <farous> thoreauputic_: perhaps he can not use pmount as user?
[09:27] <userundefine> Dirge, there are other distributions.  And *BSD.
[09:27] <fredl> farous_: I cut & pasted on pastebin
[09:27] <ajax4> Dirge: Ubuntu is hands-down the easiest distro I've ever installed or used. Sorry you're having problems with it.
[09:27] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: OK
[09:27] <fredl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18576
[09:28] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: actually farous makes a good point - can you pmount /dev/sda1  ?
[09:28] <fredl> farous_: so doesn't seem like I'm using the Mesa driver, correct?
[09:28] <dli> aqau_inter_fly, apt-get install libfuse-dev
[09:28] <bilss_> ajax4: ok i will do you suugeated before which was s_:" If your script is /etc/suck/sucknewsrc then just do: sudo chmod 777 /etc/suck/newsrc...then do: sudo chown root /etc/suck/newsrc "  see what happens
[09:28] <farous> fredl: it is working fine so what is the problem
[09:28] <aqau_inter_fly> dli: i did that
[09:28] <ajax4> Dirge: That workaround I mentioned earlier about adding users to the plugdev group. Have you tried it at least? Does it work for you?
[09:28] <Dirge> thoreauputic_, I pmounted, same results
[09:29] <dli> aqau_inter_fly, pastebin your commands and error messages
[09:29] <farous> fredl: no you are using ati one. glxinfo |grep render
[09:29] <aqau_inter_fly> dli: and it was successful, but ./configure for ntfs-3g still says its not there
[09:29] <aqau_inter_fly> dli: for when i do ./configure
[09:29] <farous> fredl: will give you render =yes so you have 3d accel
[09:29] <Dirge> ajax4, That's not a solution I can use. I can't give users access to plugdev.
[09:29] <aqau_inter_fly> ?
[09:29] <ajax4> bilss_: sudo chmod 777 /etc/suck/sucknewsrc just do that and tell me what it says
[09:29] <thoreauputic_> Dirge: hmm - is this the first user? Is the user in all relevant groups?
[09:29] <xange> anybody able to point me in the right direction for how to format my NTFS USB Drives so that I can acctualy use them under Ubuntu? please
[09:30] <dsas> xange: by use do you mean write? if so you don't.
[09:30] <ajax4> Dirge: I understand...however, I suggest trying it for a single user just to make sure you can get write working AT ALL.
[09:30] <Dewbie> xange fat32
[09:30] <A-L-P-H-A> xange? format? or mount?
[09:30] <Dewbie> fat32 is rw
[09:30] <xange> dsas: thats why I said _format_
[09:30] <aqau_inter_fly> dli: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18577
[09:30] <Dewbie> under linux
[09:30] <dsas> xange: Just use fat32
[09:30] <bilss_> ajax4: ok just a sec
[09:30] <xange> I don't care about the files that were once on there, I want them to go bye bye
[09:31] <userundefine> xange, sudo fdisk /path/to/disk
[09:31] <Dewbie> NTFS is read only Fat#@ and Fat16 is READ/WRITE
[09:31] <ajax4> xange: NTFS support is buggy under Linux, use fat instead
[09:31] <xange> userundefine: ty
[09:31] <dli> aqau_inter_fly, the error message is pretty clear, you need fuse > 2.5.0
[09:31] <A-L-P-H-A> I recently read NTFS was full read/write capable... [albeit, shouldn't be used in a production environment] 
[09:31] <Dirge> ajax4, Well, that's be nice, but the permission is rwxr-xr-x So group doesn't have access either.
[09:32] <Dewbie> alpha it is, but its terribly buggy
[09:32] <bilss_> ajax4: ok did that curser just returned to prompt
[09:32] <A-L-P-H-A> Dewbie, fair enough.
[09:32] <ajax4> bilss_: Try running your program and see if it works
[09:32] <Dewbie> guaranteed rw is fat32 or fat16
[09:32] <aqau_inter_fly> dli: yes i know, i did install a 2.5 version from the website, but i don't know what version you had me install with apt-get install
[09:32] <xange> yes I know NTFS you cannot write, I don't care to use NTFS or FAT I am making the move to nix and not going back :) though is Ext2/3 comptable with OS X? I have a desktop OS X that I wouldn't mind sharing the usb drives with if I had to...
[09:32] <fredl> farous_: yes, the card is detected alright, everything starts up fine. However at some point trashing of the screen occurs, bits and pieces get weird colors or weird characters, and eventually the system hard-hangs like it just did.
[09:33] <Dewbie> os x is based (loosly) on linux
[09:33] <xange> yeah I know, unix
[09:33] <ajax4> Dirge: I know you unmounted but did you try unplugging and replugging?
[09:33] <A-L-P-H-A> Is there a nice way to use wifi with ubuntu?  Something that will keep WPA passkeys safe, but auto connect to open wifi if available?
[09:33] <thoreauputic_> Dewbie: no, it's based on BSD
[09:33] <Dewbie> or should I say *nix
[09:33] <userundefine> on *BSD, not linux
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> actually, its based on unix, not linux. More specifically, BSD.
[09:33] <farous> fredl: are you sure it is the fglrx driver ? did you try the opensource driver to compare
[09:33] <Dewbie> sorry
[09:33] <bilss_> ajax4: ok its the crontab think i will see in my mail what the output is later if still says permmisonn diened or not cannot chech right now
[09:33] <Dewbie> slight mistype
[09:33] <Dirge> ajax4, Yup, even a reboot earlier.
[09:33] <Dewbie> :P
[09:33] <farous> fredl: how about dmesg or check the logs they will tell you what is wrong
[09:34] <WhatTheDeuce> How would I install Sun's jre on Ubuntu?  GIJ has a bug which causes problems in a project I'm working on.
[09:34] <xange> so does anybody know if there is a format that I can use that will go between OS X/Ubuntu smoothly? Fat32 sucks, 250gb drive turns into like 190
[09:34] <Dirge> ajax4, Oh, back to my original nick too..
[09:34] <farous> fredl: /var/log/
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> !java > WhatTheDeuce
[09:34] <ajax4> bilss_: Grab the line from crontab and run it manually.
[09:34] <thoreauputic_> !java > WhatTheDeuce
[09:34] <Dewbie> xange burn it and buy a 5 gb hdd
[09:34] <Dewbie> heh
[09:34] <fredl> farous_: Well I think so... dmesg doesn't show anything weird, nor does Xorg.log
[09:34] <Dewbie> then use fat16
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> xange: linux can read hfs without problems.
[09:34] <ajax4> bilss_: Type this at the prompt: suck nntp.aioe.org -A -bp -hl localhost -c -i 200 -M -n -Q
[09:34] <xange> ty fyrestrtr
[09:34] <xarq> xange: HFS (not HFS+)
[09:34] <bilss_> ajax4:ok just a sec
[09:34] <userundefine> anyway, fat is safer for cross-system compatibility.  there aren't any good ext* rw'ers for osx.
[09:35] <Dewbie> so then
[09:35] <Dewbie> fat rw ability has been around for years
[09:35] <Corporal_Dirge> ajax4, I'm going to give up for the day. 12 hours of getting nowhere is getting to me.
[09:35] <ajax4> Corporal_Dirge: Wait just one sec
[09:35] <Dewbie> damn NTFS mongrels
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> xange: on the same box, or two different box?
[09:35] <Bot_Builder> Could any type of linux work in 4mb of ram?
[09:36] <xarq> fyrestrtr: it's boxen
[09:36] <Bot_Builder> I just found a really really old laptop
[09:36] <Dewbie> tinylinux might..
[09:36] <xarq> Bot_Builder: DSL could I think
[09:36] <farous> fredl: i am using the open source driver now with 3d accel on the sys i am using now
[09:36] <thoreauputic_> Bot_Builder: maybe an early Slackware
[09:36] <swim> hey folks I'm trying to play a dvd movie, when I go to totem-xine and go to Movie>Play dvd... I get: "Totem was not able to play this disc."Please check that a disc is present in the drive.
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> xange: you can use nfs and that will work without any problems.
[09:36] <Dewbie> yeah dsl
[09:36] <farous> fredl: and frnakely there is no diff
[09:36] <Dewbie> forgot the name :(
[09:36] <Bot_Builder> hmm, ok, thanks
[09:36] <swim> could someone help me out?
[09:36] <dli> aqau_inter_fly, dpkg -s
[09:36] <farous> fredl: i use the fglrx driver on my ubuntu box
[09:37] <nol13> Bot_Builder, is thae laptop still running?
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> !dvd > swim
[09:37] <Corporal_Dirge> Status for the month: dual-monitor fail, tightvnc fail, usb write fail, vlc mp4 fail, ubuntu failure!
[09:37] <farous> fredl: and the open source on my debian that i am using now
[09:37] <ajax4> Corporal_Dirge: Sorry I couldn't help you more
[09:37] <userundefine> Bot_Builder, *maybe* damn small Linux, or linux from scratch.
[09:37] <fredl> farous_: any pointers to how to install the opensource driver then?
[09:37] <Bot_Builder> yeah, it runs. windows3.1, lol
[09:37] <thoreauputic_> swim: you probably need libdvdcss2
[09:37] <ajopaul> hi how do i play all files in a directory and its subdirectory thru mplayer command
[09:37] <swim> fyrestrtr: I have libdvdcss2 already
[09:37] <Dewbie> gentoo might.. if you build from the ground up
[09:37] <thoreauputic_> !restricted > swim
[09:37] <fredl> farous_: I'm just thinking the opensource driver might not detect that card I have since it's a bit rare.
[09:37] <swim> thoreauputic_: I have libdvdcss2 already
[09:37] <Dewbie> literally
[09:37] <Bot_Builder> lol
[09:37] <nol13> Bot_Builder, you better go catch it
[09:37] <thoreauputic_> swim: OK
[09:37] <farous> fredl: they are already installed with your xserver. remove the linux-restricted-modules package
[09:38] <userundefine> Dewbie, gentoo would take years to bootstrap on that :P
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> swim: did you run the install-css file already?
[09:38] <swim> I have followed the dvd playback howto
[09:38] <swim> yes
[09:38] <Bot_Builder> I think I'll try dsl, I've used it before
[09:38] <Dewbie> it would yes
[09:38] <Dewbie> but its an option
[09:38] <farous> fredl: then modify your xorg.conf file to use either radeon or ati depending on your card
[09:38] <ajax4> ajopaul: Are you using the gui version of mplayer or the command line version?
[09:38] <fuoco> how can i get a newer synaptics driver version ? 0.14.5 or 0.14.6 ?
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> swim: does the dvd show up on the desktop when you insert it in the drive?
[09:38] <Bot_Builder> Getting it onto the laptop would be a pain in the ass though - only floppy drive
[09:38] <ajopaul> ajax4: no command line one..
[09:38] <fredl> farous_: ok, lemme give that a try too then, thanks.
[09:38] <swim> fyrestrtr: no it doesnt
[09:38] <bilss_> ajax4; its still working just a sec not fininshed yet
[09:38] <Bot_Builder> nol12 - catch it?
[09:38] <farous> fredl: so change fglrx to ati first then for 3d use radeon
[09:38] <ajax4> ajopaul: Just add the files you want to play into the playlist
[09:38] <farous> fredl: good luck
[09:38] <Bot_Builder> *nol13
[09:39] <xarq> if I'm connecting a device over usbnet, what do I set up in ifconfig?  usb0?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> swim: goes without saying but .. you do have a dvd drive, right?
[09:39] <swim> fyrestrtr: yes :)
[09:39] <fredl> farous_: but I don't have a Radeon, right?
[09:39] <Corporal_Dirge> ajax4, Just as I get up to leave I see it shows rwxrwxrwx.... BUT doesn't allow writing still.... wth?
[09:39] <fredl> oh yeah I do
[09:39] <ajopaul> ajax4: u mean use the gui version..
[09:39] <fredl> sorry
[09:39] <nol13> Bot_Builder, yes, before it runs away
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> swim: hrmm, strange. does it work in other players?
[09:39] <Dewbie> so then... how do I make ubunto do my laundry?
[09:39] <farous> fredl: try ati driver first
[09:39] <fredl> farous_: ok
[09:39] <ajax4> ajopaul: Oh, for the command line one you just do: mplayer *.avi (or whatever)
[09:40] <Madpilot> Dewbie, this is Linux for human beings... but not for their laundry ;)
[09:40] <swim> fyrestrtr: well if I try to mount the dvd drive manually , I get: mount: No medium found
[09:40] <Dewbie> blah
[09:40] <Bot_Builder> ah, hehe
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Dewbie: get a usb cable interface to your washer and plug it in, then find the opensource drivers at whirlpool.sourceforge.net -- install them, and then go.
[09:40] <ajax4> Corporal_Dirge: If the permissions list is "rwxrwxrwx" then any user can write to that file
[09:40] <thoreauputic_> swim: dud DVD? Have you tried a different one to check?
[09:40] <nol13> bwhahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
[09:40] <Dewbie> awesome
[09:41] <thoreauputic_> nol13: spare us
[09:41] <swim> thoreauputic_: a different what?
[09:41] <thoreauputic_> swim: another DVD
[09:41] <ajax4> Corporal_Dirge: Disregard that last one, thought I was talking to someone else in the channel.
[09:41] <fredl> farous_: trying to remove all the restricted modules packages but I can't remove all of them it seems.
[09:41] <farous> fredl: not all of them
[09:42] <Shinaku> Hey.. having a little problem with a Compaq PCMCIA 802.11b card
[09:42] <Shinaku> it plugs in and flashes up alright
[09:42] <Shinaku> but when I active eth1 (it's connection) the lights just go off
[09:42] <Dewbie> ahh yes ain't built in wireless just da bomb?
[09:42] <Shinaku> they then blink and go off again
[09:42] <nol13> fredl: what brand of ram are you using?
[09:42] <Shinaku> Dewbie, ;)
[09:42] <farous> fredl: sudo aptitude purge  linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[09:42] <swim> thoreauputic_: yes I have.
[09:43] <thoreauputic_> swim: same result I'm assuming?
[09:43] <Dewbie> I had to fight to get my PCMCIA wireless aircard to work
[09:43] <swim> thoreauputic_: yes exactly the same result
[09:43] <xange> inside of fdisk i run 'l' to see a list of formats and I don't see HFS am I missing somethimg (I'm sure I am, its only 3:45am)
[09:43] <userundefine> Bot_Builder, check this out ! http://www.linuxdig.com/howto/ldp/4mb-Laptops.php
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> xange: if you have two computers, one using osx, the other ubuntu. Just use nfs to share files between them.
[09:44] <thoreauputic_> xange: you normally set hfs or hfsplus in /etc/fstab - I think man fstab would tell you
[09:44] <xange> I'm talking about for my 250gb usb drive
[09:44] <xange> i guess i could just format them through os x, that'd make more since huh
[09:45] <swim> any other ideas for me folks?
[09:45] <xarq> xange: FAT, HFS, etc.
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> xange: format it whatever you like for the pc its attached to. So if its attached to your ubuntu box, then format it with ext3. Then use nfs and share it with your osx machine. Of course, if you plan to physically move it each time, then you need other options.
[09:45] <KenSentMe|zzz> Hi, when i try to watch an online video i get a totem error: Totem could not play 'mms://streams3.omroep.nl/tv/vpro/hollandsport/bb.20031019.asf'. There is no input plugin to handle the location of this movie. I've installed w32codecs and the totem-firefox-xine-plugin.
[09:45] <ajax4> bilss_: How is it going?
[09:45] <thoreauputic_> xange: any particular reason to avoid the default vfat format? It's compatible with anything ( lousy fs I admit)
[09:45] <bilss_> ajax4: well the permissions have changed  lie so --rwxrwxrwx  1 news news  122 2006-07-05 11:15 sucknewsrc
[09:45] <bilss_>    but when i do the cron run as you suggested i still get /etc/suck/sucknewsrc: Permission denied
[09:45] <bilss_>   and  Moving newsrc to backup: Permission denied
[09:45] <xange> the fs is the main reason
[09:46] <fredl> farous_: when I use aptitude it tellsme some packages are broken
[09:46] <fredl> farous_: (I usually use dpkg / apt)
[09:46] <swim> thoreauputic_: I guess I can try pluging in a new dvd drive...
[09:46] <thoreauputic_> KenSentMe: yeah, totem has issues with mms - try the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[09:46] <thoreauputic_> KenSentMe: or use mimms
[09:46] <aqau_inter_fly> Okay is there a simple way to read a nstf partition (i don't need to be able to write
[09:46] <ajax4> bilss_: Type this: ls -l /etc/suck/sucknewsrc and give me the output
[09:46] <farous> fredl: forget about what aptitude say that is normal and most of the time the packages are not broken
[09:47] <Bot_Builder> sweet, thanks userundefine!
[09:47] <fredl> farous_: it is now proposing to downgrade linux-restricted-modules and has installed a version that's two versions older
[09:47] <nol13> Bot_Builder: i used to have a distro that ran off a floppy on a desktop with similar specs, it couldnt do much but it would priobably work, search distrowatch for floppy based distros, or what userundefine said probably
[09:47] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic_: i also tried to watch the same video with realmedia, but then firefox asks me to install the realplayer plugin
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: mkdir ~/ntfs-drive && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever-the-drive-is /home/yourusername/ntfs-drive
[09:47] <swim> well I guess I'll shutdown to install a new dvd drive and see if thats the issue
[09:47] <fredl> and it now wants me to reboot....
[09:47] <farous> fredl: that is not proper hmm
[09:47] <thoreauputic_> KenSentMe: the mozilla-mplayer plugin will plat real media
[09:47] <farous> fredl: does synaptic give you same prob.
[09:48] <Bot_Builder> nol13 - alright, sounds good.  I dunno how useful this thing will be without a bat, but hey
[09:48] <thoreauputic_> KenSentMe: only downside is that it's kind of ugly - but it works OK
[09:48] <farous> fredl: check with synaptic if you truely have broken packages. or apt if you know how to
[09:48] <fredl> farous_: shall I just start up synaptic, select the restricted-modules package and remove it from there?
[09:48] <xange> fyrestrtr: I think I am going to end up going with your solution..physically moving the drives doesn't even sonud fun to begin with so with giving myself a way around that I get 2 things accomplished, plus them anybody on my local that wants files can just access through nfs
[09:49] <xange> thanks
[09:49] <bilss_> ajax4: lex1@xstation:~$ ls -l /etc/suck/sucknewsr      -rwxrwxrwx 1 news news 122 2006-07-05 11:15 /etc/suck/sucknewsrc
[09:49] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic_: when i install it, will it override the totem-xine-firefox-plugin?
[09:49] <brotakul> hi. i'm trying to lesten to online radios via XMMS but the buffer won't finish. does anybody know why?
[09:49] <farous> fredl: you do nto need to remove all restricted packages
[09:49] <nathanj> how do i reconfigure a netowkr device from the console?
[09:49] <KenSentMe> nathanj: edit /etc/networking/interfaces
[09:49] <thoreauputic_> KenSentMe: my experience was that it sometimes conflicts with it - if so uninstall the totem plugin
[09:49] <brotakul> nathanj: for pppoe: rp pppoeconf
[09:49] <KenSentMe> s/networking/network
[09:50] <thoreauputic_> KenSentMe: the mplayer plugin tends to take over somwhat, but as I said, it works here
[09:50] <nathanj> no prompting screen? i just skipped it during ,my install
[09:50] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: okay i did that, now how do i get into the drive?
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> cd ~/ntfs-drive
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> ls
[09:51] <xeno> hmmmm...
[09:51] <farous> fredl: tell me what does the command uname -r in a terminal tell you
[09:51] <ajax4> bilss_: type this and tell me what the output is: ls -ld /etc/suck
[09:51] <bilss_> ajax4 i notice the line in xterm /etc/suck/sucknewsrc is In green clolour  ok just a sec
[09:52] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic_: i try to run the video, but with WM i get the message connecting and the stopped and with RM the screen remains white
[09:52] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: okay, nothing happened
[09:52] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic_: could you check this video link: http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=3178566&start=39:56&md5=55af211e4b78eb067a5ff032518c07c4
[09:52] <thoreauputic_> KenSentMe: that 's usually the way the page was coded - it's a pain
[09:52] <fredl_> farous_: sorry my system just crashed again. Either way, I followed aptitude's advice and it downgraded linux-restricted-modules instead of removing it
[09:52] <bilss_> ajax4: drwxrwxr-x 2 news news 4096 2006-06-30 17:16 /etc/suck
[09:52] <nathanj> KenSentMe: it doesnt seem to come up at boot once i added it
[09:52] <farous> fredl_: what does uname -r tell you
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: eh? what do you mean nothing happened?
[09:53] <fredl_> 2.6.15-26-686
[09:53] <brotakul> hi. i'm trying to lesten to online radios via XMMS but the buffer won't finish. does anybody know why?
[09:53] <ajax4> bilss_: Okay, do this: sudo chmod 777 /etc/suck then run the suck program again (the line from the crontab file) and tell me what it says
[09:53] <fredl_> also, I now get an indication that new packages are available, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686 is one of them.
[09:53] <thoreauputic_> KenSentMe: umm - sorry that isn't a language I can read :)
[09:53] <farous> so you need only to remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[09:54] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: i type in ~/ntfs-drive, and it goes to a new line, then i type ls, and it goes to a new line...nothing special happened
[09:54] <Dirge> !pastebin
[09:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:54] <farous> fredl_: if you want to use the opensource driver
[09:54] <ajax4> Dirge: Any luck? :)
[09:54] <fredl_> farous_: after aptitude I now have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 installed.
[09:54] <Dirge> ajax4, I think so, but it's still acting funky. When sda1 works sda2 stops working.
[09:55] <fredl_> farous_: I'll just try to remove that one then using dpkg --purge
[09:55] <brotakul> hi. i'm trying to listen online radios via XMMS but the buffer keeps running and it doesn't play anything. does anybody know why?
[09:55] <farous> fredl_: you have to remove the fglrx driver and the linux-restricted-modules- i gave to you
[09:55] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr:  when you said : name of the drive, that is usually hda1 for a windows partition right?
[09:55] <gatekeeper> thoreauputic_, KenSentMe there is a firefox addin that often proves called mediaplayerconnectivity allows you to decide why media player to use
[09:55] <ajax4> Dirge: I've had problems with High Speed USB 2.0s in an old 1.1 port.
[09:55] <Dirge> ajax4, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18578
[09:55] <fredl_> farous_: but the -26- is no longer installed after what aptitude did.
[09:56] <farous> fredl_: it might have made this complain because you have the fglrx driver still installed?
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: no, not always. It can be anything. hda1 is the first partition on the first ata drive.
[09:56] <gatekeeper> which media player even
[09:56] <Bot_Builder> aqau_inter_fly: Uh, depends.  Probably, if you only have one disk and windows was your main os
[09:56] <Dirge> ajax4, Well, Ihave other disks that work ok, but that are ntfs.
[09:56] <thoreauputic_> gatekeeper: yes, I've used that - it mostly works quite well
[09:56] <fredl_> farous_: also something else is a bit strange, when I click the update icon, it comes with a popup that the gdk-imlib1 update will be skipped.
[09:56] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: yes im almost positive it is hda1, but how come i can't get into it?
[09:56] <farous> fredl_: use synaptic to search for fglrx package and remove them
[09:57] <Dirge> ajax4, But when they're plugged in Ubuntu thinks my "backup" drive is a swap drive and now my backup is fried.
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: what happens when you do this ls /home/yourusername/ntfs-drive ?
[09:57] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: there is nothing in that folder
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> type mount -- do you see the windows drive listed?
[09:58] <fredl_> farous_: when I search in synaptic for fglrx it lists a whole bunch of packages, should I remove all of them?
[09:58] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic_: check Windows Media and snelle internetverbinding and click Sla Op. It should start immediately
[09:58] <ajax4> Dirge: You added similar lines for sda2 in your fstab file?
[09:58] <farous> fredl_: it is an old package that is not used so do not worry about it
[09:58] <nol13> brotakul: is youre sound card running?
[09:58] <Dirge> ajax4, sda2 isn't in the fstab file.
[09:59] <farous> fredl_: that is strange you shoudl have at most 3 installed
[09:59] <thoreauputic_> KenSentMe: no luck here
[09:59] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic_: too bad then
[09:59] <brotakul> noll3: my sound card works just fine with ohter players
[09:59] <bilss_> ajax4: ok we have done it ! many thanks
[09:59] <fredl_> farous_: I have fglrx-control, fglrx-kernel-source, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev and xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[09:59] <farous> fredl_: fglrx-control xserver-xorg-fglrx
[10:00] <ajax4> bilss_: You're welcome :)
[10:00] <fredl_> farous: remove those two?
[10:00] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: so, what is wrong with it?
[10:00] <farous> fredl_: remove them all except for the xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: you probably didn't give it the right hda
[10:00] <nol13> brotakul: you better go catch it
[10:00] <fredl_> farous: ok
[10:00] <farous> fredl_: this is the one we will use
[10:00] <bilss_> ajax4; so now that permmisoion is not denied what will be theresult
[10:00] <linux_user400351> how can i make my ip static from the console?
[10:01] <ajax4> bilss_: Well you should no longer get those errors and things should just work.
[10:01] <xsquared> linux_user400351, man ifconfig
[10:01] <bilss_> ajax4; ok thanks
[10:01] <noiesmo> linux_user400351, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: pastebin the output of mount
[10:01] <thoreauputic_> KenSentMe: even the flash on the left doesn't play - I think it's using flash 8 since mine is 7 and works on most sites
[10:01] <brotakul> noll3: catch what? sorry, don't speek english that well...
[10:01] <ajax4> Dirge: How many plugin usb drives do you have?
[10:01] <nol13> brotakul: your sound card, before it runs away
[10:02] <stiv2k> ok, xev gives out a lot of info, where does it say the key code for the print screen key when i press it????
[10:02] <fredl_> farous: ok, done. Now in the search results it still lists two linux-restricted-modules, the 2.6.15-23 and the 2.6.15-26 version. Should I remove those too?
[10:02] <Dirge> ajax4, Just 1, oh, and sda1 and MobileDisk are the same parition. I don't know whyI had to enter it twice to get it working.
[10:03] <farous> fredl_: yap
[10:03] <brotakul> noll3: my sound card work fine. i don't have any ohter problems with it in linux or windows. just with radios in xmms. that's all...
[10:03] <Dirge> ajax4, sda2 is an encrypted drive mounted by truecrypt. I'm trying to find out why I can't add write access.
[10:03] <farous> fredl_: then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:03] <xsquared> brotakul, maybe you should try BMPx?
[10:03] <farous> fredl_: and select ati driver and do not use framebuffer with kernel
[10:03] <nol13> brotakul: ok sorry, if your not sure what i meant, im just a dick who doesnt know how to fix you're sound card (and has a similar problem) and isnt funny.
[10:04] <fredl_> farous: ok. hang on though..
[10:04] <xsquared> your *
[10:04] <fredl_> farous: it simply won't remove the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686 package :(
[10:04] <brotakul> noll3: thanks anyway... :S
[10:05] <nol13> brotakul: so where ya from?
[10:05] <fredl_> farous: synaptic has just upgraded it....
[10:05] <fredl_> bizarre.
[10:05] <brotakul> noll3: romania
[10:05] <xsquared> brotakul, BMPx might handle radio better than xmms
[10:05] <farous> fredl_: ok try the dpgk-reconfigure
[10:05] <farous> fredl_: and then reboot and remove it later
[10:05] <brotakul> xsquared: i'll give it a try
[10:05] <brotakul> thanks
[10:05] <stiv2k> ok, xev gives out a lot of info, where does it say the key code for the print screen key when i press it????
[10:05] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18579
[10:05] <xsquared> no problem :)
[10:06] <fredl_> farous: alright, now the linux-restricted thing is gone, I had to try it one more time
[10:07] <nol13> brotakul, right on, so how are things in Romania, having a nice summer?
[10:07] <fredl_> farous: lemme first try to simply alter the driver in xorg.conf from fglrx to ati ok? the dpkg-reconfigure asks me a whole lot of questions that are already correct in the xorg.conf
[10:07] <xsquared> nol13, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:08] <brotakul> noll3: here it's warm. anyway, here's a tehnical channel, i don't want to piss off anybody, sory ;)
[10:08] <farous> fredl_: ok then you need to reboot
[10:08] <fredl_> ok, going to reboot
[10:09] <nol13> fine
[10:10] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: did you get my post?
[10:11] <Llogi> hello
[10:11] <nol13> hi
[10:12] <Llogi> someone here for a short question?
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: yes, give me a few minutes.
[10:12] <ajax4> Llogi: Go ahead
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: are you 100% sure you are putting the right device in mount?
[10:12] <xsquared> Llogi, fire away
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> !ask
[10:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:12] <Llogi> Shooot
[10:12] <nol13> Llogi, BANG!
[10:12] <stiv2k> ok, xev gives out a lot of info, where does it say the key code for the print screen key when i press it????
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> stiv2k: on stdout (the terminal) it will tell you there when you press it.
[10:13] <Llogi> ahm i am looking for a installation-instruction for ubuntu 6.06 and my IBM T41p
[10:13] <stiv2k> fyrestrtr: correct, but it also shows so much other garbage
[10:13] <stiv2k> fyrestrtr: i can't find it
[10:13] <stiv2k> amongst all the other output
[10:13] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: i'm trying to check right now using QTParted but it says no device can be found beacause i am not logged in as root
[10:13] <Llogi> al the special-buttons and non-working suspend to RAM is driving me crazy
[10:13] <xsquared> Llogi, pop the cd in the drive and double click on the intaller on the desktop
[10:14] <xsquared> installer *
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> stiv2k: it will be in KeyPress event, something like this  keycode 110 (keysym 0xff13, Pause),
[10:14] <stiv2k> is it 110?
[10:14] <stiv2k> or is it diffrent on every machine
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> no, that's for Pause :)
[10:14] <stiv2k> oh
[10:14] <stiv2k> heh
[10:14] <Llogi> yea i think, i got pretty far... for an absolute linux-beginner.
[10:15] <xsquared> Llogi, how are you stuck?
[10:16] <Llogi> It is... i dont think i installed it realy clean, as i wanted it.
[10:16] <aqau_inter_fly> How do i launch QTParted in Root Mode?
[10:16] <spades> stiv2k its 111 on my laptop if you want to shoot blindly
[10:16] <stiv2k> spades: yay its you again
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: sudo qparted
[10:16] <stiv2k> yeah i didnt find it in xev, too much garbage
[10:16] <Llogi> i scratched all information from different sources. and now i'm really confused, if you understand
[10:16] <stiv2k> spades: now what's the command in xmodmap to remap it? i forgot it, haha
[10:17] <Llogi> so this is why i asked for a clean one-filed-T41p-installation-instruction
[10:17] <spades> stiv2k  xmodmap -v .Xmodmap   and .Xmodmap should have a 'keycode 111 = F19' or whatever imaginary button you want it to sym to it stops
[10:18] <stiv2k> spades: ah
[10:18] <spades> stiv2k  if verbose doesnt error, you can drop the -v and it should ask you once to load at startup and just tick dont ask anymore
[10:18] <fredl> farous: no luck, I no longer have X now.
[10:18] <farous> fredl: do you have xgl
[10:18] <stiv2k> i wish i could write it down
[10:18] <aqau_inter_fly> yes i am sure
[10:18] <aqau_inter_fly> What is the cammand in terminal to delete a direcotyr
[10:18] <stiv2k> spades: besides that, i noticed in ubuntu, it always times out trying to get an IP address
[10:19] <thoreauputic> aqau_inter_fly: rmdir
[10:19] <stiv2k> spades: but in windows, it gets it fine
[10:19] <fredl> farous: in the old xorg.conf I had Load "GLCore", that caused an error so I commented out the line
[10:19] <thoreauputic> aqau_inter_fly: assuming its empty
[10:19] <stiv2k> spades: im kinda far from my AP, so the signal is somewaht weak, but still, after a couple of tries it should work and it doesn't
[10:20] <farous> fredl: you have xserver-xorg ubuntu-desktop packages installed ?
[10:20] <fredl> farous: in the xorg log it says at the end: PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected
[10:20] <spades> stiv2k can you move closer to see if its weak signal or just not getting an ip cuz of bad driver?
[10:20] <enyc> stiv2k: ?how much do you know about the wlan card and drivers/chipset?
[10:20] <stiv2k> spades: heh, i wish i could
[10:20] <dcomsa> aqau_inter_fly: rm -rf
[10:20] <stiv2k> spades: enyc: atheros chipset, im using the livecd so it shoulda detected it right
[10:20] <stiv2k> i see an ath0 in the devices
[10:20] <fredl> farous: yes, I have both
[10:20] <stiv2k> but if it can get an IP in windows, why can't it do it in linux?
[10:21] <enyc> stiv2k: there are wlan cards where the manafacturu wont provide proper technical documentation and soforth such  that making a driver work is ver arkward... and soforth
[10:21] <stiv2k> enyc: correct, but this card uses the atheros chipset...
[10:21] <enyc> stiv2k: kk... and does it work with static IP set?
[10:21] <farous> fredl: you can try dpkg-reconfigure as last resort other than that i do not know what the problem is
[10:21] <bonsai> has anyone every succesfully encoded a dvd image from avi using DeVeDe?
[10:21] <stiv2k> enyc: i didn't try
[10:21] <enyc> stiv2k: then try pinging default gateway....
[10:21] <fredl> farous: I've already tried doing the dpkg-reconfigure as well.
[10:22] <stiv2k> enyc: i can't ping it without an IP though, no?
[10:22] <spades> stiv2k set a static and see if you can ping the router/ap
[10:22] <enyc> stiv2k: so set the IP thats still set in the DHCP lease under win[32/64]  land........
[10:22] <farous> have no idea then fredl you can restore the fglrx drivers by just installing them again
[10:22] <Munksgaard> is there anyway to install ubuntu on the HD from commandline
[10:22] <enyc> Munksgaard: on the livecd?
[10:22] <fredl> farous: ok, thanks for trying!
[10:23] <stiv2k> enyc: spades: i'll try...brb gonna pop the livecd in
[10:23] <farous> good luck
[10:23] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: yes im sure its hda1
[10:23] <spades> stiv2k get a paper and write it down
[10:23] <River> I'm following install instruction for quasar on dapper. I have already installed PostgreSQL 8.1, now when doing 'sudo -s -u postgres' I get error "/bin/bash: 780487: Permission denied" but still get the postgres user prompt. Can anyone please help?
[10:23] <stiv2k> im outside
[10:23] <stiv2k> lol, there's none out here
[10:24] <intecys> alo
[10:24] <intecys> hello
[10:24] <Munksgaard> enyc: yes
[10:24] <intecys> hello
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: then do this type sudo bash
[10:24] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: okay
[10:24] <aqau_inter_fly> done
[10:24] <enyc> Munksgaard: hrrm not sure...... but if you want comprehensive text installer.... (not livecd)  use/get the 'alternate' cd
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: then type mkdir /home/yourusername/ntfs
[10:25] <Munksgaard> enyc: ok... where can i get it?
[10:25] <enyc> Munksgaard: erm... wait ;-)
[10:25] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: okay done
[10:25] <Munksgaard> the problem is, the livecd wont display x
[10:25] <intecys> hello any help.. with firefox.... intall the pluh ins
[10:25] <Munksgaard> so i cant install
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: now type mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /home/yourusername/ntfs
[10:26] <bonsai> flash plugin, intecys?
[10:26] <enyc> Munksgaard: via http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[10:26] <intecys> yes..
[10:26] <enyc> Munksgaard: what is you graphics card/device ?
[10:26] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: done
[10:26] <River> When I 'sudo -s -u postgres' I get error "/bin/bash: 780487: Permission denied" Can anyone please tell me why ?
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: now type ls /home/yourusername/ntfs
[10:27] <bonsai> intecys try this: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:27] <intecys> well i will go
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> River: type su postgres only
[10:27] <intecys> very thanks
[10:27] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: it is a directory
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: what do you see in it?
[10:28] <ajax4> River: Why are you using the -s and -u options?
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> type cd /home/yourusername/ntfs then type ls
[10:28] <Munksgaard> enyc: Ati Mobility x600 i think, i had the same problem on SUSE and i was told to compile the driver locally, and it worked eventually, but it dosent seem to work on the livecd/commandline, apparently some function needed dosent exist
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> Munksgaard: ATI x300 works fine (Thinkpad T43)
[10:28] <mneptok> evenin' users
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> Munksgaard: I would imagine x600 works fine too.
[10:28] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr:  all of my windows files :-)
[10:28] <River> ajax4: following instrucitons from here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83797.html
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: good, now type exit
[10:29] <enyc> Munksgaard: you might want to look for bugs in ubuthu malone
[10:29] <aqau_inter_fly> okay
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: then type cd ~/ntfs && ls
[10:29] <_JUDGE_> question: anyone have your network work on the live cd.. but not on install of dapper????
[10:29] <Munksgaard> enyc: i think its because my screen is a widescreen, bottom line is, X returns some errors in safe mode and refuses to start, while in normal mode i just get a blank screen where X should've been
[10:30] <enyc> Munksgaard: if you install using the 'alternate' cd and then 'dist-upgrade' the system with dapper-updates + dapper-security  etc. you will have uptodate dapper kernel... then you can build/run other kernels or drivers or whatever ;-)
[10:30] <River> fyrestrtr: do you mean 'su postgres' without the other switches ?
[10:30] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: permision denied
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: okay this is normal, no worries
[10:30] <enyc> Munksgaard: heh... needs some fixing ;-)
[10:30] <Munksgaard> enyc: Aye
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: type sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername/ntfs
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> River: yes
[10:31] <enyc> Munksgaard: look for help in ubuntuforums // ubuntu-wiki // ubuntu-malone bugs... your problem is likely documented!
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: then try it again
[10:31] <stijn> hi, I'm still using ubuntu 5.04
[10:31] <enyc> Munksgaard: you should get out the 'alternate' cd in order to upgrade....
[10:31] <stijn> is it possible to upgrade without the need to reinstall the system?
[10:31] <enyc> stijn: you can upgrade to 5.10  and THEN to 6.06  if you like
[10:31] <enyc> stijn: yous
[10:31] <Munksgaard> enyc: right, alternate cd coming up
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade
[10:31] <enyc> stijn: yes
[10:31] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:31] <River> fyrestrtr: ok I tried, however when it asks for password, I get su: authentication failure.. it does not take my norma sudo password
[10:32] <DaJudge> <------- perplexed as to why the live cd works with my existing network.. but clean dapper install will not... wtf?
[10:32] <enyc> DaJudge: it coulhd be  a problem withsivecd installer...
[10:32] <stijn> how can i see which version i'm using ?
[10:32] <enyc> DaJudge: livecd installer even
[10:32] <enyc> stijn: read /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:32] <ajax4> River: Does it work if you just use 'sudo -u postgres' ?
[10:32] <bilss_> hi
[10:32] <thoreauputic> DaJudge: do you use satic addressing?
[10:32] <stijn> ok, thanks a lot
[10:32] <thoreauputic> *static
[10:32] <enyc> DaJudge: you *could* try 'alternate' cd with has alternative network config tool etc.
[10:32] <DaJudge> i use DHCP
[10:33] <kanedaddy> hey
[10:33] <enyc> DaJudge: kk
[10:33] <DaJudge> works with live cd.. but not after install
[10:33] <DaJudge> crazy
[10:33] <enyc> DaJudge: indeed..
[10:33] <RedGhost> i need to exit X-server to install my graphics driver
[10:33] <thoreauputic> DaJudge: check /etc/network/interfaces and see if you have something like auto ... dhcp
[10:33] <RedGhost> what would this be from the commandline
[10:33] <enyc> DaJudge: well.... whitn is installed... what happens?
[10:33] <kanedaddy> ok
[10:33] <enyc> DaJudge: is the  relevant driver module loaded (see 'lsmod')
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> River: there is no password just hit enter
[10:34] <nol13> enyc, do you have it running?
[10:34] <bilss_> ajax4: hi everything is ok but suck is being used by user name lex1 thats who i log in as if i want admin to use suck and not lex1 how to make the change
[10:34] <DaJudge> when i browse my network i get : smblink-root
[10:34] <enyc> DaJudge: is the interface being started at all? (see 'ifconfig eth0')
[10:34] <varun> any kernel hackers in the room?
[10:34] <enyc> nol13: ??what?? running?
[10:34] <River> fyrestrtr: nope just enter also fails
[10:34] <enyc> DaJudge: '/sbin/ifconfig eth0' even
[10:34] <DaJudge> enyc: im a bit new.. not sure what lsmod is
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> River: did you set a password for the postgres user?
[10:34] <enyc> DaJudge: well what is your network adapter first?
[10:35] <DaJudge> you mean type?
[10:35] <nol13> enyc, your network?
[10:35] <DaJudge> or brand
[10:35] <enyc> DaJudge: have a look at 'lspci' output -- that should tell you
[10:35] <enyc> nol13: im using network now ;-)
[10:35] <ajax4> bilss_: When you say admin, what username specifically do you want to be able to use suck?
[10:35] <River> ajax4: 'sudo -u postgres' just prints out "usage: sudo -K | -L ..."
[10:35] <RedGhost> how can i exit X from commandline?
[10:35] <enyc> DaJudge: I mean the chipset used on the card and hence what driver-module is used ;-)
[10:35] <nol13> enyc, hmmmms o it is
[10:35] <nol13> enyc, you'd better catch it
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> River: that's because that's not how you use sudo :)
[10:35] <spades> RedGhost try (sudo) /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:35] <thoreauputic> RedGhost:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:36] <DaJudge> enyc: it says : Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)
[10:36] <RedGhost> thanks
[10:36] <River> fyrestrtr: Yes, and I sucessfuly log in using PGAdmin3
[10:36] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: is this supposed to be changing the ownership of every single windows file, cuz its taking forever
[10:36] <ajax4> River: What are your permissions for /bin/bash ?
[10:36] <enyc> DaJudge: aah ok  that is a 'ne2k-pci' last time I checked (a 10mbps ne2000 on PCI)
[10:36] <gdb> RedGhost: if you want to log out, then press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, if you want to turn X off entirely, then do the the above init.d command.
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: yes, because that's how you'll be able to access it as a normal user.
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> River: then use that password when you su postgres
[10:36] <enyc> DaJudge: iirc that uses the kernel module "ne2k-pci!
[10:36] <DaJudge> enyc: hehe.. sure i guess.. its an old machine.. with a generic card in it..
[10:37] <enyc> DaJudge: iirc that uses the kernel module "ne2k-pci"
[10:37] <River> ajax4: no idea, sorry I only know enough to get myself in trouble on Linux. Tell me how to tell
[10:37] <nathanj> whats a good lightweight login manager
[10:37] <DaJudge> enyc: is there something that I need to configure or install to get it to work with installed dapper?
[10:37] <thoreauputic> nathan: xsm - but it's ugly as sin
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> xdm?
[10:37] <thoreauputic> *xdm
[10:37] <TheMoebius-Windo> how do I switch from kdm to gdm?
[10:38] <ajax4> River: Try this: su -i then type su postgres
[10:38] <River> fyrestrtr: nope, does not like it
[10:38] <ajax4> River: no
[10:38] <Mattchewie> xdm is ugly as all get out *vomit*
[10:38] <dli> TheMoebius-Windo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:38] <gdb> TheMoebius-Windo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:38] <ajax4> River: sudo -i then su postgres
[10:38] <gdb> dli: lol
[10:38] <enyc> DaJudge: well...
[10:38] <gdb> River: sudo su - postgres
[10:38] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: still says permmision denied
[10:38] <enyc> DaJudge: if dapper is not Loading the module....
[10:38] <gdb> River: can do it on one line
[10:38] <tux> hello. Somebody knows how to hybernate my dell x300?
[10:38] <TheMoebius-Windo> dli: I did that and I restarted the x-server but it goes to kdm still
[10:38] <enyc> DaJudge: just add the line "ne2k-pci" onto the end of /etc/modules
[10:39] <enyc> DaJudge: ("sudo nano /etc/modules")
[10:39] <thoreauputic> TheMoebius-Windo: then uninstall kdm
[10:39] <nol13> TheMoebius-Windo, is kde running now?
[10:39] <enyc> DaJudge: that will make it load the module... if thats not being automatically done for some reason
[10:39] <dli> TheMoebius-Windo, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[10:39] <thoreauputic> TheMoebius-Windo: and edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:39] <nol13> TheMoebius-Windo, kdm
[10:39] <River> ajax4 , gdb, ok, I seem to be in, at least I now have prompt "postgres@neo-3000:/root$"
[10:39] <DaJudge> enyc: hmm.. a bit lost as to what your saying.. im a bit of a linux noob =)
[10:40] <TheMoebius-Windo> nol13: no. I get this error message when I reconfigure gdm (from the failsafe session in kdm) - "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed."
[10:40] <ajax4> River: Okay, now you are the postgres user so follow the instructions from the next line (createuser)
[10:40] <nol13> TheMoebius-Windo, good then it cant get too far away
[10:40] <thoreauputic> TheMoebius-Windo: you cn't have gdm and kdm running t the same time :)
[10:40] <enyc> DaJudge: drivers in linux kernel are usually built as 'modules'
[10:41] <enyc> DaJudge: these can be loaded/unloaded at runtime
[10:41] <River> ajax4, will do many thanks. fyrestrtr and gdb, also many thanks for your time
[10:41] <enyc> DaJudge: ubuntu dapper has a HAL Hardware Abstraction Layer  whatsnot that usually loads the relevant driver for the network card etc.
[10:41] <ajax4> River: your welcome
[10:41] <gdb> River: And you've set the root password in the database?
[10:41] <bunta> Morning folks :) Small question.. Errm, my keyboard settings is set on US.. how do I change it to the UK layout?
[10:41] <DaJudge> enyc: i ran that command: sudo nano /etc/modules looking at the file i guess..
[10:41] <enyc> DaJudge: if this is not automatically happening (you can CHECK whad modules are loaded with 'lsmod') --
[10:41] <gdb> River: er, ignore that. lol you're using postgres, not mysql lol
[10:42] <bilss_> ajax4: i have two usernames lex1 and admin i can los into admin and log into lex1 now because my small news server is being used by lex1 i want to change this to admin because lex1 will also run a mail server so i want to change to admin ilook at http://pastebin.ca/95751 to see how it is now
[10:42] <TheMoebius-Windo> dli: hmm ok so I stopped kdm and now its stuck at the kubuntu loading screen that I see when the computer is first starting up
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> bunta: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.uk
[10:42] <enyc> DaJudge: you can tell ubuntu to load the module at boot-time manually by putting it on the end of the /etc/modules file
[10:42] <River> gdb: I believe so, as I need to use it when I log in via pgadmin3
[10:42] <ajax4> bunta: system > preferences > keyboard
[10:42] <TheMoebius-Windo> mehh I guess I'll restart
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: its still saying that? ls ~ what user and group is the ntfs directory?
[10:42] <enyc> DaJudge: that might not be the problem in the first-place of course!
[10:42] <gdb> River: ah good, then you have some users defined already
[10:42] <nol13> TheMoebius-Windo, NNNNOOOOOO!!!
[10:43] <bunta> ajax4, I've tried that method.. didnt work.. but fyrestrtr worked.. Thanks :)
[10:43] <ajax4> fyrestrtr: showoff :P
[10:43] <enyc> DaJudge: well try putting 'ne2k-pci' on the end of that file ... press crtl+X ....
[10:43] <DaJudge> enyc: so put ne2k-pci at the end of the file?
[10:43] <River> gdb: in pgadmin, only 'postgres' shows... I assume I will see the others when I finish with the next steps of createuser
[10:43] <enyc> DaJudge: no harm trying...
[10:43] <gdb> River: yes, that's right
[10:43] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: sorry, i didn't understand that question
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: and do this sudo chmod -R u+rwx /home/yourusername/ntfs
[10:43] <enyc> DaJudge: it wont do anything disatarous
[10:43] <DaJudge> enyc: do I need the quotes?
[10:43] <bunta> lol
[10:43] <TheMoebius-Windo> nol13: do I loose?
[10:43] <enyc> DaJudge: no, you must not include quotes
[10:43] <bunta> Got a few more queries that I'll run thru you guys, just gonna clean up here ;)
[10:43] <DaJudge> enyc: ok.. ill see if i can do that
[10:44] <ajax4> bilss_: Heres the thing...it will run with whatever user has it in their crontab file. So you have to move it over to the admin crontab.
[10:44] <enyc> DaJudge: I just have this suspucion the ubuntu hal whatnot isnt seeing that card.... but it could be a different problem ;-)
[10:44] <nol13> TheMoebius-Windo, well you havent won
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: ignore it, and run sudo chmod -R u+rwx /home/yourusername/ntfs/
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: without the last /
[10:45] <DaJudge> enyc: so how do I save the file? is it the writeout command?
[10:45] <bilss_> ajax4: ok so change i crontab from lex1 to admin?
[10:45] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: oh...too late
[10:45] <enyc> DaJudge: well if you  Ctrl+X ... it will ask you
[10:45] <aqau_inter_fly> should i start over
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> enyc: you can find out what ubuntu is seeing in the device manager
[10:45] <enyc> fyrestrtr: hrrm never looked into that wery much
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: it shouldn't make a difference though, when its done, see if you can cd into ~/ntfs
[10:45] <ajax4> bilss_: Yes, if its in lex1 crontab then that user will run it. If its in admin then admin will run it.
[10:45] <DaJudge> enyc: ok I did that.
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> enyc: or lspci -vv
[10:45] <bilss_> ajax4: i have a cron.allow file which has news lex1 and root in it
[10:46] <enyc> fyrestrtr: how does the HAL infrastructure start, and what does the dev. mgr  look into?  -- how is this different on livecd?
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> enyc: that I don't know.
[10:46] <ajax4> bilss_: you have to add admin then
[10:46] <DaJudge> enyc: do I need to restart or something?
[10:46] <enyc> fyrestrtr: Im familiar with lspci
[10:46] <River> gdb: ajax4: the instructions don't mention the question "Shall the new role be a superuser? (y/n) " should I answer yes ?
[10:46] <enyc> DaJudge: erm
[10:46] <enyc> DaJudge: check your /etc/network/interfaces
[10:46] <enyc> DaJudge: ("less /etc/notwork/interfaces")
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> enyc: I *think* HAL is the new hotplug, but not sure.
[10:47] <enyc> fyrestrtr: aaah I remember....
[10:47] <TheMoebius-Windo> ok restarting seems to have done it
[10:47] <gdb> River: If you want the new user to have the same power to administer the database instance as the user postgres, then yes.  If you simply want a "normal user account" then no.
[10:47] <enyc> fyrestrtr: never udev took over from hotplug iirc
[10:47] <bilss_> ajax4: ok so add admin to cron.allow file but while still loged in as uer lex1?
[10:47] <enyc> fyrestrtr: *newer* udev took over from hotplug iirc
[10:47] <ajax4> River: which user? Quasar? or Quasar_dba?
[10:47] <emil> Hi Guys\
[10:48] <emil> I wanted to unrar something
[10:48] <emil> I typed in terminal
[10:48] <River> gdb: I'm not sure, this is for the 'quasar_dba' user, so I guess it wouldn't hurt
[10:48] <DaJudge> enyc: ok im looking at it
[10:48] <River> ajax4: dba
[10:48] <gdb> Any user with 'dba' in the name probably needs superuser access to the database instance.
[10:48] <emil> sudo unrar e file.rar, but he says unknown command or something, should i install something first?
[10:48] <fgrano> hi, I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.15-26 and now I'm missing the "kernel build tree" that apparently should be in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/. How do I solve this?
[10:48] <donald> can you when burning cd's check the data
[10:48] <enyc> DaJudge: does that have entry for 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' and 'auto eth0' ?
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> emil: you should install unrar
[10:48] <River> gdb: ajax4: ok, super it is
[10:48] <emil> fyrestrtr: Ok, thanks
[10:48] <ajax4> River: dba is probably database administrator, so you would make that your superuser. For Quasar it should be a normal user. I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure.
[10:48] <enyc> emil: you dont need sudo either...
[10:49] <emil> enyc: Ok, but if i use it always, i never forget it ;)
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> fgrano: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-k7
[10:49] <River> ajax4: sounds reasonable, it would be my gues too
[10:49] <DaJudge> enyc: yes
[10:49] <enyc> emil: there are different versions of unrar tooo... . rar is nonfree so it presents problems ;-)
[10:49] <enyc> emil: then you end up with files created as root
[10:49] <Dewbie> compiz&XGL is the bomb
[10:49] <emil> enyc: I'll try something
[10:49] <enyc> emil: which your user cant write to typically
[10:49] <enyc> DaJudge: well
[10:49] <gdb> River: Sorry for not being too up on PostgreSQL. :-/  My friends all use it and try to get me to convert.  I use MySQL and Oracle. :-/
[10:49] <enyc> DaJudge: you cantry rebooting ;-)
[10:50] <Dewbie> omg its awesome
[10:50] <enyc> DaJudge: thats best test really
[10:50] <DaJudge> enyc: will do.. brb =)
[10:50] <Dewbie> anyone else ever used compiz?
[10:50] <ajax4> bilss_: You have to edit cron.allow as root, so you must sudo before editingi t.
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> River: postgres questions really should be in #postgres
[10:50] <bilss_> ajax4:ok as root will do, forgot to mention not sure if it maters but admin does not have root access its not a super user?
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> Dewbie: sure, I use it. How is the washing machine interface coming?
[10:50] <DaJudge> enyc: BTW is there an easy way to paste things into a terminal other than right click paste?
[10:51] <Dewbie> its going good, altho I can't find the USB connection on the dryer
[10:51] <DaJudge> enyc: ctrlV doesnt seem to work in there..
[10:51] <Znero> DaJudge: str+shift+v
[10:51] <fgrano> fyrestrtr: linux-headers-2.6.15-26-k7 is already the newest version.
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> DaJudge: middle click (click both buttons at one if you have a two button mouse, or press down on the wheel if you hve a wheel mouse)
[10:51] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: permmision DEnied
[10:51] <River> gdb: don't appologize, thanks for your time. fyrestrtr , sorry you are right, I am now past my su problem and in the relm of postgres. I don't mean to polute this channel. Thanks for your help all
[10:51] <TruffelGuus> Is there any dutch person here, i would like tot alk to adutch person. I can't get somethin fixed and my englisch is not so gooed !
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: wth
[10:51] <ajax4> bilss_: Add admin to the /etc/cron.allow file and put the suck command in the admin crontab file
[10:51] <DaJudge> so .. middle click eh?
[10:51] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: good point
[10:51] <Dewbie> life will be sooo easy in 10 years
[10:51] <gdb> River: It's no bother, a little top drift is normal. :-)
[10:52] <gdb> er topic
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: pastebin the output of ls -l ~
[10:52] <DaJudge> ahh that works great.. brb
[10:52] <fgrano> fyrestrtr: i reinstalled it and it didn't do any good
[10:52] <Dewbie> everything USB connected
[10:52] <enyc> DaJudge: erm see fyrestrtr messages ;-)
[10:52] <intecys> hey bison
[10:52] <Dewbie> or IE1394 connected
[10:52] <ajax4> TruffelGuus: This is an english only channel. Try to find a dutch Ubuntu channel.
[10:52] <Dewbie> ajax there is one?
[10:53] <bonsai> !nl
[10:53] <ajax4> Dewbie: I don't know.
[10:53] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[10:53] <ajax4> There ya go.
[10:53] <Dewbie> oh so there is...
[10:53] <TruffelGuus> dank je ubotu
[10:53] <intecys> BONSAI!
[10:53] <Dewbie> I can go learn some dutch there then?
[10:53] <intecys> thanks..... the url is fine
[10:53] <bonsai> hi intecys any luck with the plugin?
[10:53] <ajax4> Dewbie: They'd probably say learning dutch was off-topic :)
[10:53] <bonsai> ok nice
[10:54] <Dewbie> lmao
[10:54] <CyberTea> Hi everyone
[10:54] <Dewbie> like chatting is here..
[10:54] <ajax4> hey
[10:54] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: what file do you want me to my in when i do it?
[10:54] <bilss_> ajax: i am not sure where the contab file is at the moment i think it must be in lex1, so log in as admin alter the crontab allow file which is also in lex1
[10:54] <Dewbie> err shuts
[10:54] <intecys> yes very fine
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: doesn't matter
[10:54] <TruffelGuus> well i guess i can ask it here as well....
[10:54] <ajax4> bilss_: No, the crontab.allow file would probably be in /etc
[10:54] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18580
[10:55] <Dewbie> it is
[10:55] <bahadirt> !relay
[10:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about relay - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:55] <DaJudge> enyc: still the same problem.. when i browse the network I see smblink-root instead of the network..
[10:55] <TruffelGuus> i can't get the resolution of my live cd properly fixed. It is way too huge now. 640*x or something....how can i get it fixed. Not in the resolution program.....
[10:55] <ajax4> bilss_: What command line editor do you use?
[10:55] <Dewbie> truffel what chipset/graphics card?
[10:55] <TruffelGuus> and CAN it be fixed when using a live cd, because now i cannot instal ubuntu cause i can't get the whole screen :(
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: sudo chown tom:tom /home/tom/ntfs
[10:56] <TruffelGuus> ATI Radeon X700 Pro !
[10:56] <Cryptid> Hey i am having problems with synaptic My computer has become useless because of this please chck the error here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18581
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: then sudo chmod -R u+rwx /home/tom/ntfs
[10:56] <Dewbie> does that even run PONG?
[10:56] <bilss_> ajax4: yes it is in etc just add admin to it then go into /home/admin as root nano but in the crontab line and save it as what?
[10:56] <TruffelGuus> WTF is PONG? :P i am new, sorry :P well...have SOME experience with Gentoo...I loved it :p
[10:57] <DaJudge> enyc: you still there?
[10:57] <TruffelGuus> but now i want to install Ubuntu :)
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> TruffelGuus: a very, very old game.
[10:57] <TruffelGuus> lol
[10:57] <nathanj> i have installed LAMP server but I want to make script that will stop all the services?
[10:57] <Dewbie> hmm most things I know involve you installing ubuntu
[10:57] <TruffelGuus> oooo that Pong :p
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> TruffelGuus: the great-grandaddy of playstation
[10:57] <bonsai> TruffelGuus, you can try changing vga modehe start-up screen when the livecd starts to boot, press F4 or F5, can't rememeber, it says "VGA"
[10:57] <ajax4> bilss_: Use the same crontab lines from the other crontab file
[10:57] <TruffelGuus> with the bars and 1 ball :P i know it :p
[10:57] <Dewbie> thats pong
[10:57] <TruffelGuus> tnx dewbie. Will try that then....but i fear the worsed :p
[10:58] <Dewbie> don't fear it
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> Cryptid: are you using a local apt proxy or cache?
[10:58] <Dewbie> embrace it
[10:58] <dli> Cryptid, did you setup some http proxy?
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> Cryptid: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:58] <TruffelGuus> i don't fear pong i fear that VGA will not work :p
[10:58] <Dewbie> thats bonzai's suggestion
[10:58] <bilss_> ajax4: ok yes i know its the same line but in nano what do i same the file as what name
[10:58] <Cryptid> dli: fyrestrtr no idea i havent done anything of that sort
[10:58] <enyc> DaJudge: yes
[10:58] <Dewbie> not mine
[10:58] <ajax4> TruffelGuus: I fear pong. That crap is scary!
[10:58] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: okay it only changed the ownership of the ntfs file, (not every single windows file) and it is stilled denied when i cd into it :-P
[10:58] <TruffelGuus> lol ajax4
[10:58] <DaJudge> enyc: still the same prob.. so frustrating.
[10:59] <bilss_> ajax4: save
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: okay, does it have the same permission line?
[10:59] <dli> Cryptid, better to pastebin your /etc/apt/apt.conf ( the file under /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[10:59] <enyc> DaJudge: hangon... you mean thenetwork has been working all-along?
[10:59] <Cryptid> dli: fyrestrtr it use to work before suddenly it stoped working
[10:59] <Dewbie> ajax4 : and as such you should
[10:59] <enyc> DaJudge: its just you cant see SMB shares?
[10:59] <Cryptid> fyrestrtr: yeah one sec i will paste it
[10:59] <enyc> DaJudge: I thought you meant the NETWORK was not working -- i.e. ne IP adress or not able to ping anything
[10:59] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: yes exactly
[10:59] <dli> Cryptid, " it doesn't work " has no meaning here, it won't bring in any help
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: chmod -R 700 /home/tom/ntfs
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work
[10:59] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:59] <DaJudge> enyc: well.. im using the ubuntu comp right now.. so its using my network internet connection.. but i cant see the shares .. but the live cd works fine!
[11:00] <enyc> DaJudge: ooooh you didnt _say_ that
[11:00] <ajax4> bilss_: What is the name of the file your cron commands come from on the old user?
[11:00] <Dewbie> lmao ubotu
[11:00] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: sudo?
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: no
[11:00] <enyc> DaJudge: I thought you meant the notwark interface was not coming up at all
[11:00] <DaJudge> enyc: sorry... im having a hard time explaining  the problem i guess
[11:00] <enyc> DaJudge: err network_interface even
[11:00] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: permission denied
[11:00] <Cryptid> fyrestrtr: here it is check it out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18582
[11:01] <enyc> DaJudge: erm... i suggest you update everything first...
[11:01] <Dewbie> getting sound working on anything should NOT be this hard
[11:01] <DaJudge> enyc:  did that
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: what tha ... sudo chown -R tom:tom /home/tom/ntfs -- you missed some step.
[11:01] <enyc> DaJudge: make sure you have Dapper-updates and Dapper-security selected in packaging tool
[11:01] <enyc> DaJudge: and then upgrade
[11:01] <bilss_> ajax4: not sure when i am in lex1 i just type crontab -e and the line appears
[11:01] <Dewbie> to get a human to talk, just kick/tickle them, that doesn't work for Ubuntu unfortunately..
[11:02] <enyc> DaJudge: im not really used to using smb shares......
[11:02] <enyc> DaJudge: ask around r.e. bugs and soforth ;-)
[11:02] <Simy> my install has frozen at installing grub, is there a way to force it to exit, and then retry?
[11:02] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: okay if this doesn't work, i have to go to bed (its 5:02 AM), are you going to be on tommarow?
[11:02] <emil> Hello
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> Cryptid: any reason you have both breezy and dapper repos listed?!
[11:02] <Dewbie> hello
[11:02] <Simy> without a system restart and reinstall
[11:02] <DaJudge> enyc: what is r.e bugs?
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> aqau_inter_fly: yeah I'm on almost every day :)
[11:02] <enyc> DaJudge: ubuntu-wiki  ubuntuforums  ubuntu malone bug
[11:02] <enyc> DaJudge: your problem may well be described elsewhere ;-)
[11:03] <Dewbie> ubuntu has a wiki... OMG
[11:03] <dli> Cryptid, do: sudo -i ; unset http_proxy && apt-get -f update
[11:03] <ajax4> bilss_: Okay, copy the crontab instructions to a file with 'crontab -l > file' in lex1, then copy it over to admin with 'sudo cp file /home/admin/'. then log on as admin and type 'crontab file' to add those commands to admin's cron jobs.
[11:03] <Cryptid> fyrestrtr: no reason at all.
[11:03] <Cryptid> dli: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18583
[11:03] <DaJudge> enyc: well I appreciate your help. I have looked over the forums, wiki and searched.. but damn if I can figure out why the live cd will show my network and th eshares.. but not the installed version.
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> DaJudge: report it as a bug
[11:04] <Cryptid> fyrestrtr: i have a backup of the original repository should i switch back to that?
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> Cryptid: do what dli said first.
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> Cryptid: then if it doesn't work, we'll try some other things
[11:04] <DaJudge> fyrestrtr: um... where is the best place to do that.. sorry if it is a stupid question
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> DaJudge: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[11:05] <Simy> My install has stopped moving at grub (at 0%) is there a way to force it to stop? and then try to restart, without a reboot and reinstall?
[11:05] <polpak> !bugs
[11:05] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:05] <bilss_> ajax4: ok and add admin in etc/cron.allow
[11:05] <manpage1> !zip
[11:05] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[11:06] <enyc> DaJudge: hrrm try using 'connect to server...'
[11:06] <Cryptid> fyrestrtr: yes i am doing what dli asked me to, it showed some progress then in the neding it says " Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[11:06] <ajax4> bilss_: Right
[11:06] <enyc> DaJudge: and connect to shars by name
[11:06] <bilss_> ajax4: ok thanks i will do that
[11:07] <dli> Cryptid, follow easy source, don't mix releases
[11:07] <DaJudge> enyc: i tried that.. but Im not sure how to use it right.. im prolly using it wrong..
[11:07] <DaJudge> enyc: for starters.. not sure what the first option should be.. SSH?
[11:08] <Cryptid> dli: ok so now what do i do the unset http_proxy didnt work
[11:08] <enyc> DaJudge: SMB
[11:08] <Cryptid> dli: i am unable to remove softwares which are ready installed
[11:08] <enyc> DaJudge: Samba... SMB...
[11:08] <dli> Cryptid, search your ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc /etc/profile /etc/bashrc
[11:08] <dli> Cryptid, as I said, clean up your sources.list
[11:08] <linux_user400354> grub is a bad bootloader. it allows people to go into single user mode.
[11:08] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: so when thats done do you try cd into ntfs?
[11:09] <DaJudge> enyc: ok.. all the other machines are windows based... so maybe select windows share? (samba or SMB is not an option in the drop down)
[11:09] <dli> linux_user400354, add passwd protection for grub
[11:09] <polpak> linux_user400354: eh.. only if you configure it to do so
[11:10] <Cryptid> dli: what am i suppose to be looking for in these files ,,,, i will copy back my backup copy of source.list,,,, i have anon-proxy installed u think that i causing the problem?
[11:10] <dli> linux_user400354, add passwd protection for bios, lock the case
[11:10] <enyc> DaJudge: aaaah yes 'windows share' -- same thing ;-)
[11:10] <dli> !easysource > Cryptid
[11:10] <enyc> DaJudge: it uses something called 'server message block' a.k.a. "SMB"  implemented by 'samba' tools for unix
[11:10] <DaJudge> enyc: so is the "server" the network name?
[11:10] <enyc> DaJudge: yes.... actually before you typie it in there...
[11:10] <Dewbie> grub is only bad if you don't configure it correctly
[11:11] <enyc> DaJudge: open up a terminal
[11:11] <DaJudge> enyc: open
[11:11] <enyc> DaJudge: and do 'nmblookup <NAME>' (e.g. 'nmblookup computer3')
[11:11] <DaJudge> enyc: er..
[11:11] <enyc> DaJudge: see if you can find the computer-names like that
[11:11] <aqau_inter_fly> fyrestrtr: okay it didn't work and now im going ....so hopefully i'll talk to your tommorow
[11:12] <enyc> DaJudge: like... if one of your other computers with shares you want is called 'computer3' then... try 'nmblookup computer3'
[11:12] <DaJudge> enyc: ok did that .. seems like it found it
[11:12] <enyc> DaJudge: kk
[11:12] <enyc> DaJudge: try this too then...
[11:13] <enyc> DaJudge: 'smbclient -n -L <NAME>'
[11:14] <enyc> DaJudge: correction:
[11:14] <enyc> DaJudge: 'smbclient -N -L <NAME>'
[11:14] <enyc> DaJudge: can you see the list of shares there?
[11:14] <DaJudge> enyc: i think so
[11:15] <DaJudge> enyc: actually .. yes it appears to be listing the shares correctly
[11:15] <enyc> DaJudge: cooo ;-)
[11:15] <DaJudge> enyc: in the terminal that is
[11:15] <bonsai> i'm trying to shrink my ntfs but gparted won't let me do anything with it, am tempted to shrink it in xp with partitionmagic, anyone have any experience with that?
[11:15] <enyc> DaJudge: that means you have a working connoction at that level ;-)
[11:15] <enyc> DaJudge: ok... back to the 'connect to server' window
[11:15] <DaJudge> enyc: ok
[11:16] <Cryptid> dli: synaptic is asking me to check my network , i guess it is unable to connect to the internet what do i do i generated the sourse using easy source it didnt fix the probelm
[11:16] <enyc> DaJudge: you have selected 'windows share' ok
[11:16] <DaJudge> enyc: yes
[11:16] <enyc> DaJudge: what other fields do you have to fill in? (list them)
[11:16] <mixandgo> hello, where does ubuntu store the autoload modules file ? the one that tells it which modules to load at boot
[11:16] <bonsai> !bum
[11:16] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:17] <DaJudge> enyc: server, share, folder, user name, domain name, name to use ofr connection
[11:17] <mixandgo> bonsai, does that relate to my question ?
[11:17] <enyc> DaJudge: server is the computername
[11:17] <mixandgo> bonsai, I didn't ask about services but kernel modules !
[11:17] <DaJudge> enyc: ahh
[11:17] <enyc> DaJudge: share is the name of the share
[11:17] <bonsai> mixandgo, i see, sry
[11:17] <enyc> DaJudge: like you saw from the smbclient -L list
[11:18] <enyc> DaJudge: e.g. 'C' or whatver your share is called
[11:18] <enyc> DaJudge: folder... net needed...  id leave the rest blank except for 'name to use for connection'
[11:19] <enyc> DaJudge: unless you need logon username/password you should not fill them in ... unless there is a WinNT domain involved you should no fill in the 'domain'
[11:19] <DaJudge> enyc: wtf.. it worked
[11:19] <enyc> DaJudge: heh
[11:19] <enyc> DaJudge: I think something about the ''browse'' whatnot doesnt like your situation for some reason
[11:19] <enyc> DaJudge: that doesnt mean you cant connect to share explicitly
[11:20] <Cryptid> fyrestrtr: dli: Could not download all repository indexes
[11:20] <Cryptid> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.  please help
[11:20] <pilorm> Question: (Hi :) Received a laptop from the 'linux emporium' with ubunto 6.06 preinstalled. Anyone here understand what username/password will have been used during install that might help me get logged in?
[11:20] <DaJudge> enyc: right.. i see that now.. just wondering why it cant browse with install VS live cd..
[11:20] <enyc> DaJudge: you are connected in a high-level fashion via libsmbclient  etc. that is usable in the graphical  nautilus etc.
[11:20] <enyc> DaJudge: i dont know...  try to find out if the same happens if you run dapper-install on another machine?
[11:21] <frogzoo> pilorm: boot single user from grub prompt, & add user
[11:21] <enyc> DaJudge: post a bug in malone with as much detail as you can... notably EXACTLY what you see when you try to 'browse'
[11:21] <DaJudge> enyc: only "spare" machine I have..
[11:21] <frogzoo> pilorm: will be interesting if they've locked out single user though
[11:21] <DaJudge> enyc: i will do that.. appreciate the help.
[11:21] <enyc> DaJudge: http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <enyc> DaJudge: search first
[11:22] <pilorm> frogzoo: I'll try that, thanks.
[11:22] <enyc> DaJudge: then keep an eye on your bug... you may get questions.. you may get answer... you may (hopefully) get your bug marked als a duplicate of ANOTHER bugreport you havent found... which has a fix)
[11:23] <jbrimble> Is there a Linux version of Defilerpak (a mass collection of video codecs for Windows) available, or similiar?
[11:23] <enyc> DaJudge: p.s. you may as well remove the 'ne2k-pci' entry which is not needed in /etc/modules ;-)
[11:23] <frogzoo> jbrimble: consider w32codecs
[11:23] <enyc> !RestrictedFormats
[11:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:23] <frogzoo> !codecs
[11:23] <enyc> jbrimble: see win32codecs under 'RestrictedFormats'
[11:23] <DaJudge> enyc: I will do what you have said.. thank you for the help. (I will remove the entry .. but as I am new to the commands.. hehe.. what was the command to bring that up in admin mode?)
[11:23] <jbrimble> ah, thanks frogzoo and enyc
[11:23] <enyc> DaJudge: 'sudo'
[11:24] <enyc> DaJudge: 'sudo nano /etc/modules'
[11:24] <DaJudge> enyc: what does the nano part mean?
[11:24] <enyc> DaJudge: nano is text editor
[11:24] <jbrimble> I'm installing Wine from winehq's apt source.. It says it's untrusted, is that still ok?
[11:24] <frogzoo> anyone using nagios? how do I get authorization to view a host?
[11:24] <enyc> DaJudge: some like 'vi' (entirely different interface!)
[11:25] <DaJudge> enyc: ahh ok.. so much to learn.. hard when your a noob.
[11:25] <frogzoo> jbrimble: there's a key u should add 4 sourceforge
[11:25] <enyc> jbrimble: it means the winehqs package is not signed by ubuntu keys ;-)
[11:25] <svein> hello, does apache2.2 exist in a apt-get pakage yet?
[11:25] <enyc> jbrimble: this is expected
[11:25] <TheMoebius> does anyone here use xinerama or nvidia twinview? why are the xinerama features broke when I start up with a display manager but they work with I start gnome with 'startx'?
[11:25] <jbrimble> Ah, understood
[11:25] <frogzoo> !info apache2.2
[11:25] <ubotu> Package apache2.2 does not exist in dapper
[11:25] <enyc> jbrimble: it depends if you trust the winehq's packages ;-)
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> !apache2
[11:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about apache2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> !info apache2
[11:26] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB
[11:26] <svein> !apache2.2 ?
[11:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about apache2.2 ? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:26] <enyc> DaJudge: erm... anymway I must go ;-)
[11:27] <enyc> DaJudge: please write to me (enyc@evtech.org) when you get an answer in bugreport  with URL to the bugreport ;-)
[11:27] <DaJudge> enyc: ty for your help again.. much appreciated
[11:27] <brotakul> i have problems with emulating winamp via wine. it's extremely slow.. are there any other emulators witch would help?
[11:27] <frogzoo> !appdb > brotakul
[11:27] <jbrimble> One more question, what Video player do you recommend?
[11:28] <frogzoo> jbrimble: gxine is great
[11:28] <svein> ok so apache2.2 maybe comming later then?
[11:28] <brotakul> 10x frogzoo
[11:28] <pilorm> Question: I've found the grub command line, however the command "boot single user" returns "Error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting".. There is a lack of clue of what to do. :)
[11:29] <dli> Cryptid, follow the sudo -i line
[11:29] <frogzoo> pilorm: wtf? how do you boot if the kernel has to be already loaded? o.O
[11:30] <Noia> what are some good firewall alternativs for linux that arn't impossible to install...
[11:30] <frogzoo> pilorm: 'boot single user' isn't a command - there should be an option in grub, 'recovery mode' - pick that one
[11:30] <philipsmith> I'm trying to set up SAMBA on Breezy. I'm using the HOWTO at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#head-f8d4c20dd87fab2563f04e9047c3e0467425480a I have SAMBA installed. However, when I go to Places>Network and click on Windows Network, there are no icons that show the Windows machines on my network! What am I doing wrong?
[11:30] <andrew_> Ubuntu is t.eh r0x0r  ;P
[11:31] <pilorm> frogzoo: Thanks, that's a clue that may help. :)
[11:31] <frogzoo> Noia: firestarter is user friendly, though not nearly as powerful as iptables
[11:31] <bonsai> Noia, alternative to firestarter? how about guarddog...
[11:31] <andrew_> pilorm, or you could type "boot linux single"
[11:32] <Cryptid> dli: i didt work man got anything else?
[11:32] <frogzoo> andrew_: will that work from the grub prompt on an installed ubuntu setup?
[11:33] <andrew_> Can anyone answer this one: I've created a normal user in Breezy 5.10, with the defeault GNOME.  I can't use sound (volume control greyed out).  Seems that this user doesn't have permission to talk to esd.  Is this a known problem?  Do I need to add this user to a group?
[11:33] <pilorm> Update: After starting the kernal in recovery mode and seeing lots of pretty text fly by, the prompt is "Give root password for maintenance (or type Ctrl D to continue)". I've still to try "boot linux single"
[11:33] <frogzoo> andrew_: add luser to 'audio'
[11:34] <andrew_> frogzoo, at the grub prompt you would edit the list of kernel parameters (eg "ro root=/dev/blah" and add "single" to that list
[11:34] <frogzoo> pilorm: oh noes - man... - can you dig up a live cd?
[11:34] <bimberi> philipsmith: Probably nothing.  I always found the Places -> Network in breezy to be somewhat unreliable.  However I've always been able to connect to shares via Places -> Connect to Server...
[11:34] <frogzoo> andrew_: yep, pilorm has a laptop that's been preinstalled, but no account info - heh
[11:34] <andrew_> frogzoo, but as you suggested there "should" be a single-user mode as an option in the main grub menu
[11:34] <pilorm> frogzoo: I can probably do that, but I'm not sure that should be the route I should follow.
[11:34] <andrew_> ah
[11:35] <pilorm> Yes, that is me :)
[11:35] <frogzoo> pilorm: a live cd will get you in - otherwise, you should contact the supplier & give em an earful
[11:35] <andrew_> frogzoo, the groupadd will probably fix it, why isn't that in there by default when you add a user in ubuntu though  :)
[11:35] <chexara> Can someone tell me where can I get information about the compatibility between my HP scanjet scanner and Ubuntu/Linux ? (I've tried google)
[11:35] <andrew_> chexara, try the SANE project
[11:36] <pilorm> frogzoo and andrew: Thanks for your support, it was enough I think, I'll contact the supplier and explain the experience to them. cheers
[11:36] <dmsantam> andrew_, how did you create the user?
[11:36] <frogzoo> andrew_: I guess the preference is for conservative security - so everything should be disabled by default
[11:36] <andrew_> pilorm, ok
[11:36] <frogzoo> pilorm: k, gl
[11:36] <andrew_> dmsantam, only with the "adduser" script because I wanted to change options in /etc/adduser.conf first
[11:36] <philipsmith> bimberi: Thanks. I did that. Still, when I click on windows network, I don't see any of my Windows machines. I've disabled firestarter.
[11:36] <andrew_> frogzoo, ok
[11:36] <dmsantam> adduser script should put them in the correct groups... strange
[11:37] <bimberi> philipsmith: yep, as i said - unreliable :)
[11:37] <someothernick> !hcl
[11:37] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:37] <dmsantam> andrew_, System->Administration->Users and Groups  and then hit properties on the user, and you can change permissions for sound, etc. im using dapper though
[11:40] <jbrimble> !dpkg
[11:40] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[11:41] <chexara> ok thanks, my scanner is not supported atm :(
[11:41] <SuNSh1n3> can somebody help me to install my video card ASUS ATI no just ATI
[11:42] <frogzoo> SuNSh1n3: which model?
[11:42] <SuNSh1n3> 9550GE
[11:42] <SuNSh1n3> ASUS ATI 9550GE
[11:42] <frogzoo> SuNSh1n3: that will run the fglrx driver, which I'd recommend
[11:42] <frogzoo> !fglrx > SuNSh1n3
[11:43] <jbrimble> How can i play DVD's ?
[11:43] <Mouldy> hey all, when I try to install this plugin for gaim (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=116374) I get this error (http://pastebin.ca/95789)...any ideas what's wrong? Gaim is installed :\
[11:43] <bonsai> jbrimble http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[11:44] <jbrimble> cheers
[11:44] <KJ-ro> HELP :D ... how could i mount a cue cd image ????
[11:44] <bonsai> jbrimble don't forget to enable DMA
[11:44] <thoreauputic> !bchunk
[11:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about bchunk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:44] <thoreauputic> bah
[11:44] <Kaja> cue is not an image
[11:44] <thoreauputic> KJ-ro: you need bchunk
[11:44] <thoreauputic> !info bchynk
[11:44] <KJ-ro> but bin is
[11:44] <ubotu> Package bchynk does not exist in dapper
[11:44] <jbrimble> bonsai: How do I do that?
[11:44] <thoreauputic> !info bchunk
[11:44] <KJ-ro> aha
[11:44] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[11:44] <frogzoo> KJ-ro: u need cdemu dude - which you will have to compile as it's not in the repos
[11:45] <frogzoo> KJ-ro: or do as thoreauputic suggests, & convert to iso
[11:45] <thoreauputic> frogzoo: no, bchunk is easier
[11:45] <frogzoo> thoreauputic: yup
[11:45] <thoreauputic> cdemu is a pain
[11:45] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:45] <bonsai> jbrimble http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_speed_up_CD.2FDVD-ROM
[11:45] <vrt> guys, i am on breezy badger, i can't find the wmaker package to install.. i just installed ubuntu
[11:45] <KJ-ro> frogzoo : cdemu solves all my problems with all tipe of images ?
[11:46] <frogzoo> KJ-ro: just .cue
[11:46] <thoreauputic> KJ-ro: the trouble with cdemu is you have to compile it and jump through hoops to get it working
[11:46] <vitry> why can't I compile qemu with kqemu accelerator support in my dapper amd64??
[11:47] <frogzoo> KJ-ro: bare in mind, .iso doesn't capture subchannel info, so cdemu might be required if you're dealing with copy protection
[11:47] <thoreauputic> vitry: is that supported by kqemu? I've only tried it on x86
[11:47] <frogzoo> vitry: did you run the script? should be a hands free process
[11:47] <frogzoo> !kqemu
[11:47] <ubotu> kqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[11:47] <KJ-ro> frogzoo: i am not ... i just want to mount vcd image someone did ...
[11:47] <JDahl> thoreauputic: isn't it easier to convert the .cue image to .iso and mount that?
[11:47] <andrew_> thanks for the suggestions folks, i'll be off now.  have a good weekend.
[11:48] <thoreauputic> JDahl: that's exactly what I said
[11:48] <Priest-of-Psi> hi all
[11:48] <thoreauputic> JDahl: I suggested bchunk for that
[11:48] <bilss_> hi
[11:48] <Priest-of-Psi> anyone here use the composite extenstion for ubuntu?
[11:49] <KJ-ro> linux drives me crazy ... too much info right now... i am done.... brain dead....
[11:49] <KJ-ro> so long
[11:52] <cwillu> is there a quick way to get dns service proxied via an ubuntu box, or proxied via the ssh socks proxy?
[11:53] <cwillu> preferably in a zero-config'ish manner for the client (i.e., the config'd via the dhcp on the ubuntu box already (edubuntu'ish), or some ssh magic)
[11:53] <disinterested> im looking for a fan speed indicator
[11:53] <izmaelis> hi
[11:53] <izmaelis> is there any setting in proftpd like FollowOwnSymplinks in apache?
[11:53] <jbrimble> ugh, i still can't play a video that i've encoded into xvid
[11:54] <cwillu> hmm, I guess 'zero-config' actually means 'zero-new-software-on-client', come to think of it
[11:54] <cwillu> quiet night  :)
[11:55] <Priest-of-Psi> omfg
[11:55] <bonsai> jbrimble, have you installed the necessary multimedia codecs?
[11:55] <Priest-of-Psi> why would composite work with radeon driver
[11:55] <Priest-of-Psi> and not fglrx
[11:55] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: use aiglx for opensource drivers
[11:55] <edulix> how can I trick apt to think that certain app is already uninstalled
[11:55] <edulix> ?
[11:56] <Priest-of-Psi> cwillu: ?
[11:56] <edulix> because it didn't install successfully, and it takes ages (infintum) to remove
[11:56] <cwillu> edulix: trying to install a package that claims to conflict, or just reinstall something?
[11:56] <Priest-of-Psi> can you elaborate?
[11:56] <edulix> oh onw it worked the remove
[11:56] <edulix> :P
[11:56] <cwillu> lol
[11:56] <Priest-of-Psi> cwillu:
[11:56] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: xgl is recomended for the proprietary drivers
[11:56] <Priest-of-Psi> I dont want xgl
[11:56] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: aiglx is recommended for the opensource ones
[11:56] <Priest-of-Psi> :P
[11:56] <Priest-of-Psi> I just want composite
[11:56] <Dewbie> aiglx is nice
[11:57] <Dewbie> it works well
[11:57] <Dewbie> on my machine
[11:57] <Priest-of-Psi> Dewbie: ati?
[11:57] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: for what purpose?  the neat 3d stuff, or just something else?
[11:57] <Priest-of-Psi> just shadows
[11:57] <Dewbie> no Intel 945GM chipset
[11:57] <Priest-of-Psi> but with the fglrx driver it breaks
[11:57] <Priest-of-Psi> no window borders etc...
[11:58] <Priest-of-Psi> but the radeon driver works fine
[11:58] <Dewbie> mine has all that good stuff and its integrated graphics too
[11:58] <Priest-of-Psi> but if I use radeon I dont get any hardware rendering
[11:58] <Priest-of-Psi> so I cant play ET
[11:58] <Priest-of-Psi> :(
[11:58] <SuNSh1n3> hey where i can change positions of OS in grub table ?
[11:58] <linux_user400354> !tell linux_user400354 about pastebin
[11:58] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: I _think_ the opensource drivers need aiglx to use the composite extension, but I haven't actually read that, just the sense I get
[11:59] <Priest-of-Psi> cwillu: it works now
[11:59] <househeadmark> SuNSh1n3> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:59] <Priest-of-Psi> but I dont have hardware rendering
[11:59] <cwillu> okay, then ignore me, for I know nothing :)
[11:59] <SuNSh1n3> 10q
[11:59] <Priest-of-Psi> lol
[11:59] <cwillu> on second thought, don't ignore me yet
[11:59] <Priest-of-Psi> cwillu: you know alot
[11:59] <Priest-of-Psi> :P
[11:59] <Dewbie> funny thing is, mine shouldn't have hardware rendering, yet it does now
[11:59] <cwillu> no, I just say alot :p
[12:00] <househeadmark> does aiglx work with Nvidia yet?
[12:00] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: you're looking for acceleration in games, etc, while also using composite?
[12:00] <Priest-of-Psi> yes
[12:00] <cwillu> okay, I believe that that's what xgl and aiglx are actually for
[12:00] <Dewbie> it is
[12:01] <Dewbie> I concur with cwillu
[12:01] <SuNSh1n3> tell me other editor non pico
[12:01] <househeadmark> aiglx - nvidia - anyone?
[12:01] <cwillu> fullscreen games with the proprietary drivers probably just grab the entire thingamabob from x to do their thing, and hence they work without anything special
[12:01] <cwillu> although you'd need xgl to use acceleration while in window'd mode
[12:01] <cwillu> the opensource drivers don't do that, and so don't work the same
[12:01] <bonsai> househeadmark, as fas as i know nvidia is unsupported with X.Org 7.1
[12:02] <bonsai> with aiglx that is
[12:02] <cwillu> however, with aiglx, you get the acceleration in full and windowed mode, with the open drivers
[12:02] <Dewbie> don't play anything in fullscreen mode :P
[12:02] <cwillu> again, this is what I believe, not what is actually true :)
[12:02] <househeadmark> bonsai> thanks, that's bad news, i can't see nvidia letting that happen though
[12:02] <Priest-of-Psi> this is crazy
[12:02] <Dewbie> it is?
[12:02] <Dewbie> omg run hide.
[12:03] <Dewbie> compiz and XGL is the bomb
[12:03] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: I believe that if you install aiglx (the motd in #ubuntu-xgl has the link), eveything should Just Work.
[12:03] <cwillu> (With The OpenSource Drivers)
[12:03] <bunta> Arr <3
[12:03] <bunta> Ubuntu's behaving nicely
[12:03] <Priest-of-Psi> nah man
[12:03] <Priest-of-Psi> it has to work like this
[12:03] <Dewbie> aiglx is what made compiz work fast and effient;y
[12:03] <bunta> GAIMs being a bit of a pain.. so I'ma go see if I can run MSN
[12:04] <Priest-of-Psi> wtf is aiglx anyway?
[12:04] <Priest-of-Psi> I dont like compiz
[12:04] <cwillu> it's the normal x server, with an extension
[12:04] <cwillu> you don't have to run compiz, that's serperate from xgl and aiglx
[12:04] <Dewbie> aiglx is a 3d accelerated xorg
[12:04] <Dewbie> basically
[12:04] <cwillu> xgl is a whole new x server, aiglx is xorg with an accelerated extension
[12:04] <Corporal_Dirge> I love this channels solutions. "no video" -> use command line; "no sound" -> don't need sound; "can't set partition policies" -> give the users group access.
[12:05] <Dewbie> hey I don't have sound sound
[12:05] <Dewbie> what you suggest
[12:05] <bunta> Dewbie: have a look to see if the drivers are loaded
[12:05] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: did you have an issue?
[12:05] <Corporal_Dirge> I'd suggest checking dor drivers in multi
[12:05] <Dewbie> the drivers aren't the problem
[12:05] <Priest-of-Psi> I dont want gnome stuff installed
[12:06] <Corporal_Dirge> I did  earlier, but I took a break.
[12:06] <Priest-of-Psi> I use xfce
[12:06] <Dewbie> having high end hardware...is
[12:06] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: partition's would generally use f/u/dmask options, with other args as neccessary for the mount type
[12:06] <Corporal_Dirge> Dewbie, There's probably default drivers that are compatible
[12:06] <cwillu> you can also install full acl support for some filesystems, although you' won't be able to find much support here (I've only dabbled with it)
[12:07] <Priest-of-Psi> bbl
[12:07] <cwillu> and people who say you don't need video or sound in this channel should frankly just be kicked :)
[12:07] <Dewbie> I have a Intel 945GM chipset and so, sound doesn't work cause there isn't any decent (working) drivers for it
[12:07] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, How do I set permissions for a truecrypt removable hdd?
[12:07] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: do you have a working mount command for it?
[12:07] <linux_user400354> can someone tell me why i am getting this error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18585
[12:08] <Dewbie> corporal trust me there isn't any drivers... checked with crimson
[12:08] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, It's mounted via truecrypt. It's a Serpent-AES encrypted FAT32 partition.
[12:08] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, Problem is that it's 755 permissions.
[12:09] <SuNSh1n3> how
[12:09] <SuNSh1n3> to stop
[12:09] <SuNSh1n3> X
[12:09] <varun> any kernel hackers in the room? I'm having some really weird issues with a recompile
[12:09] <NthDegree> SuNSh1n3 ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:09] <cwillu> SuNSh1n3: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" to keep it from restarting when you do that
[12:09] <Corporal_Dirge> SuNSh1n3, I think it's etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:10] <Dewbie> any solutions to this problem?
[12:10] <SuNSh1n3> when i press ctrl+alt+ back space
[12:10] <SuNSh1n3> x stop and then start again and ask me to log in
[12:10] <Corporal_Dirge> Dewbie, I mean default drivers that aren't for your card, but that still supply the very basic commands to the chip
[12:10] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: is it mounted/mountable via fstab, or a fuse module, or something else weird and wonderful?
[12:10] <SuNSh1n3> i want to log as root
[12:10] <SuNSh1n3> in X
[12:10] <NthDegree> SuNSh1n3 that kills X you then have to kill gdm by logging in as root on a text based vt
[12:10] <bunta> Dewbie, you tried the forums?
[12:11] <Dewbie> well as far as I know
[12:11] <varun> I get this error message when trying to boot - "Could not open directory /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/modules.dep.temp for writing: no such file or dir"
[12:11] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, No, it's Encrypted. You need to mount via Truecrypt.
[12:11] <bunta> There's probably an experimental module for your chipset
[12:11] <NthDegree> SuNSh1n3, you cannot login as root by default you can use sudo
[12:11] <NthDegree> or gksudo
[12:11] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, Truecrypt uses the mount command internally
[12:11] <bonsai> linux_user400354, prob syntax issue, no? try using the whole filename of the files to be zipped
[12:12] <SuNSh1n3> NthDegree,
[12:12] <SuNSh1n3> i can log as root
[12:12] <SuNSh1n3> if i stop X
[12:12] <SuNSh1n3> then 1 log in terminal az root and write startx
[12:12] <SuNSh1n3> and then im logged as root
[12:12] <NthDegree> SuNSh1n3 you do not need to stop X
[12:12] <SuNSh1n3> what to do
[12:12] <SuNSh1n3> ?
[12:13] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: and you're sure it doesn't give you an explicit way of mounting it?  i.e., most mounts are mounted via other programs;  the mount program just gives a clean front end to them
[12:13] <NthDegree> you simply can press ctrl+alt+F1 and login as root on a text based session then
[12:13] <NthDegree> then do /etc/init.d/gdm stop to kill the gdm
[12:13] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: either way, one possibility would be to set the permissions on the folder while unmounted, although I'm not sure if that still works
[12:13] <Robbster> join #ssbs
[12:14] <judge21345> uea
[12:14] <thoreauputic> SuNSh1n3: running X as root is a really bad idea in any case
[12:14] <Bunta> Any chance of running MSN Messenger on Linux (via wine)
[12:14] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, It calls the mount command because you can pass options to it through it's command line. Truecrypt uses Double Cascading Serpendt-AES encryption. You can't mount it any other way.
[12:14] <Bunta> GAIM refuses to load
[12:14] <Bunta> and aMSN is fugly xD
[12:14] <noiesmo> Bunta, there is amsn
[12:14] <thoreauputic> Bunta: why? Gaim does msn fine
[12:14] <NthDegree> Bunta, gaim works fine
[12:14] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, I can change the permissions on the folder unmounted, but it's set back.
[12:14] <Bunta> I know, GAIM crashes
[12:14] <Bunta> I used to use GAIM, dunno why its crashing
[12:14] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: the encryption it uses has nothing to do with how it needs to be mounted
[12:14] <Priest-of-Psi> I am not going to install the whole gnome
[12:14] <Bunta> it gets to the contact list, then.. poof
[12:14] <NthDegree> Bunta, are you up to date?
[12:14] <Priest-of-Psi> wtf
[12:15] <Priest-of-Psi> I just want to use the fglrx driver with composite
[12:15] <Bunta> No idea.. I am using dapper 6.06 if that helps
[12:15] <Priest-of-Psi> wtf
[12:15] <cwillu> although I can imagine a really poor implementation that would be difficult to mount by hand, which seems to be what you're describing
[12:15] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, The moment I mount the permissions change. When I unmount it goes backt o 777
[12:15] <Bunta> did a quite apt-get update, gaim is the latest version
[12:15] <cwillu> k
[12:15] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: what happens if you chmod the current directory while in the root of the mount?
[12:16] <linux_user400354> bonsai, nope. i used the whole filenames and i got the same error "zip warning: name not matched"
[12:16] <cwillu> i.e., "chmod <foobar> ."
[12:16] <NthDegree> well then something is either up with your installation or you dont know how to use gaim :|
[12:16] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu It doesn't change even as root running chmod 777
[12:16] <NthDegree> linux_user400354, unzip it via the GUI then
[12:16] <evi|one> Hello. I need a command to delete all the files with the name ending in ~
[12:16] <Bunta> lol funny guy :P
[12:16] <Priest-of-Psi> anyone here actually use composite ?
[12:16] <Bunta> I dunno.. it used to work perfectly fine a couple of days ago
[12:16] <cwillu> k
[12:16] <judge21345> no
[12:16] <cwillu> give me a sec (not that easily defeated :)
[12:16] <Bunta> Not sure what decided to kill it
[12:17] <stabby-> ok guys i've gotta tell you: UBUNTU ROX!
[12:17] <stabby-> ^-^
[12:17] <NthDegree> well try Kopete then its the KDE version of gaim
[12:17] <linux_user400354> NthDegree, im not unzipping. im trying create an archive. i tried using file roller. that didnt work.
[12:17] <judge21345> ubuntu 6.06 powaaa
[12:17] <thoreauputic> evi|one:  rm *~    ?
[12:17] <ardchoille> evi|one: rm /path/to/dir/*~
[12:17] <evi|one> Ah. Right. Stupid me. I was trying to use regular expressions :o
[12:17] <NthDegree> linux_user400354, zip is not 100% free and that is why gzip was made
[12:17] <Bunta> meh
[12:18] <Bunta> anyway I can remove gaim without removing gnome (ubuntu-desktop)
[12:18] <Bunta> then I'll just reinstall it :o
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Bunta: try moving the .gaim dir out of the way in your home directory ( sounds like something in your personal config)
[12:19] <shriphani> ok guys managed the trash can issue
[12:19] <Charlie> hello
[12:19] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, You use Truecrypt?
[12:19] <Charlie> I have a question on Ubuntu 6.0.6 LTS installation, can someone help me?
[12:20] <NthDegree> so it wouldn
[12:20] <NthDegree> oops :$
[12:20] <shriphani> Charlie, ??
[12:20] <NthDegree> sure Charlie
[12:20] <Charlie> Thanks.
[12:20] <NthDegree> ask away this is a support channel :)
[12:20] <frogzoo> Charlie: just state your problem - if someone knows the answer, they'll say so
[12:20] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[12:20] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:20] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: what type of partition is the encrypted volume?
[12:20] <mALmEN> googs, i am trying install speedtouch 330 on ubuntu
[12:20] <ardchoille> Bunta: removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't remove gnome, it just removes the ubuntu-desktop meta package.. it's safe to remove, I did it a long time ago. You might want to re-install that meta package if you use dist-upgrade to upgrade to the next version of Ubuntu.
[12:20] <mALmEN> but fail to me the first part
[12:20] <mALmEN> malmen@server:~$ grep -B 1 "THOMSON
[12:20] <mALmEN> > ALCATEL" /proc/bus/usb/devices
[12:20] <mALmEN> grep: /proc/bus/usb/devices: No such file or directory
[12:20] <fyrestrtr> turn that off judge21345
[12:21] <judge21345> why?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> judge21345: turn off that script please
[12:21] <judge21345> ok
[12:21] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, It's vfat.
[12:21] <thoreauputic> judge21345: imagine if everyone did that in a channel of 700 people
[12:21] <Charlie> My Dell 5150 machine has a ATI 3000 video card, from the wiki I know I need to update Xorg.conf to replace "ati" to "radeon", but my problem is installation was aborted, then I don't know how to continue after I modified the Xorg.conf.
[12:21] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: right, sorry, you said that before
[12:21] <smogbh> ciao a tutti
[12:22] <fyrestrtr> Charlie: installation of what?
[12:22] <judge21345> ok sorry, i am a newbie;)
[12:22] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: investigated the -M option?
[12:22] <Charlie> I use the CD delivered from Ubuntu. Installation of ubuntu
[12:23] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, Yes, that's how I knew it was passing the mount command to the terminal, I used -o rw. But since  vfat doesn't use privledges it failed.
[12:23] <Charlie> The first option is to install. But the installation aborted in the X server configuration step
[12:23] <fyrestrtr> Charlie: when you say 'installation was aborted' are you talking about the ubuntu installation or installation of something else?
[12:23] <Corporal_Dirge> -M "-o rw"
[12:23] <Netcad> i have edit with the command crontab -e. how do i save it and exit=?
[12:23] <bbrazil> Netcad: try esc :wq
[12:24] <Charlie> fyrestrtr, I meant "installation of ubuntu"
[12:24] <ardchoille> Netcad: hit the ESC key, then type ":w" (without quotes), then ":q"
[12:24] <furrykef> Silly question... if a program dumps core, where's the coredump go?
[12:24] <furrykef> (The program in question is xbill)
[12:24] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: okay, I think I have it
[12:24] <bbrazil> furrykef: usually the current directory
[12:24] <fyrestrtr> furrykef: .coredump or something like that
[12:24] <cwillu> vfat does support the umask option (it's a property of the mount, not the underlying file system
[12:24] <Charlie> fyrestrtr. It dumped the error and say "restart GDM"....
[12:25] <fyrestrtr> Charlie: what error did it give?
[12:25] <thoreauputic> furrykef: xbill doesn't like gnome, if that's where you tried to run it - it wants to draw on the root window
[12:25] <varun> I'm getting a "couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.15-7-xxxxxx/modules.dep.temp for writing: no such file or directory" on bootup..........any ideas?
[12:25] <cwillu> it doesn't look like you have to say -M "-o ...", I'd expect just -M umask=... to suffice
[12:25] <NthDegree> Charlie then simply reconfigure your xorg.conf and when everything is ok then put /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:25] <thoreauputic> furrykef: which nautilus has already occupied ;)
[12:26] <furrykef> Hmm, I don't see the core dump in my home directory
[12:26] <cwillu> -o options never have unescaped spaces in them, so length isn't an issue
[12:26] <fyrestrtr> furrykef: it will be the running directory of the program.
[12:26] <thoreauputic> furrykef: look for "core"
[12:26] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: did you get all that?
[12:26] <furrykef> My home directory is where I launched it from
[12:26] <NthDegree> Charlie, could you show me the wiki page you have been reading from?
[12:26] <sdh> can anybody remember the name of the app - i think it used to ship with ubuntu - that automatically downloads/previews gnome art etc and lets you install it
[12:26] <Charlie> My issue is in this URL: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130625 . I had exactly same error log
[12:27] <thoreauputic> !info gnome-art
[12:27] <ubotu> gnome-art: install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 200 kB
[12:27] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:27] <sdh> thoreauputic: cheers ;)
[12:27] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, so sudo Truecrypt /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 -M umask=777 ?
[12:27] <pawan> install
[12:27] <thoreauputic> sdh: too obvious I guess :D
[12:27] <sdh> thoreauputic: sure it used to be in default insall :p
[12:27] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: almost;  I think the umask is actually backwards
[12:27] <cwillu> just checking
[12:27] <Corporal_Dirge> 000?
[12:27] <pawan> i want to install ubuntu
[12:27] <Charlie> NthDegree , Thanks. I see, that should be a good try!! So, will this /gdm restart will continue starting from the previous installation?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> sdh: not as far as I know - and I've run every release since warty
[12:28] <sdh> thoreauputic: maybe i just installed it ;-)
[12:28] <stabby-> pawan then please do
[12:28] <stabby-> ur free to do it
[12:28] <thoreauputic> sdh: yup :)
[12:28] <sdh> thoreauputic: thanks ;)
[12:28] <cwillu> umask = the permissions that are _not_ present
[12:28] <thoreauputic> sdh: no worries :)
[12:28] <cwillu> so 0000 should work
[12:28] <cwillu> (four zero's, not three)
[12:28] <pawan> what about partitions
[12:28] <Charlie> fyrestrtr, also thank you very much
[12:28] <stabby-> pawan yes you need to have them
[12:28] <stabby-> atleast 2
[12:29] <pawan> which one
[12:29] <NthDegree> Charlie, I dont use the desktop CD but after changing xorg.conf you should try restarting gdm yes
[12:29] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: also, there's the dmask and fmask (directories and files only) which might be useful
[12:29] <stabby-> pawan well ext3 and swap
[12:29] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: and you might also want the ability to set the owner and groups on the mount (uid=,gid=)
[12:29] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, Wow, thanks. It works.
[12:29] <MonsieurBon> hello
[12:29] <pawan> is it not possible without swap
[12:29] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: np :)
[12:29] <stabby-> im pretty sure you want swap ;)
[12:29] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: now, what were you saying before?  :p
[12:30] <stabby-> or you wont have any swap
[12:30] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, Now to make an internal hidden partition inside the partition. lol
[12:30] <pawan> can it be installed on logical partition
[12:30] <cwillu> have fun with that :p
[12:30] <MonsieurBon> how can I make dapper to show an icon on the desktop when I connect a USB-HD or insert a CD-Rom?
[12:30] <Charlie> Thanks. Let me try "/etc/init.d/gdm restart".. Going to log off right now!! :)  BTW, how can I put your name into my message like what you did for me :)
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> MonsieurBon: it does that automatically
[12:30] <NthDegree> Charlie, had a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:30] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, Well, After 15 hours of searching for a solution and having 99% be "no duh" answers like "did you use sudo" I got a bit upset. lol
[12:30] <NthDegree> you may want to read that 1st
[12:30] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: I know the feeling
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> Charlie: type the first few characters of the nick, then hit <tab>
[12:31] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: did you get any rtfm's?
[12:31] <Charlie> NthDegree: test
[12:31] <NthDegree> lol
[12:31] <cwillu> those are the worst, even when they're technically correct
[12:31] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, I got a lot of !fstab > Corporal_Dirge
[12:31] <pawan> want to install on logical partition
[12:31] <Charlie> NthDegree : Bingo!! Your's format is better
[12:31] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, All this while I had fstab open and was attempting to find a solution.
[12:31] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: (i.e., the options were listed, including vfat under man), but you sure have to know what you're doing before the man pages are useful :
[12:31] <Charlie> fyrestrtr: THANKS!
[12:32] <cwillu> :)
[12:32] <MonsieurBon> fyrestrtr: why then is there no CD-Rom icon right now? I've inserted a VCD
[12:32] <Charlie> Thanks everybody! Have a nice day!!!
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> MonsieurBon: eject the cdrom, and close it again
[12:32] <NthDegree> k :) you too
[12:32] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, Well, the man pagest for 'mount' are a little over 1000 lines and refer to commands that I don't know an would have to look them up.
[12:32] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: including the bit on how to actually pass the args using -M;  the quoting would have had you stuck alone until you tried not specifying it :)
[12:32] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: the slash key is your friend
[12:32] <pawan> it is not worrking on logical partition
[12:33] <fyrestrtr> specifically, the / key
[12:33] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: "/vfat" searches for vfat,
[12:33] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, Well, I knew -M but I didn't know what to pass to mount.
[12:33] <fyrestrtr> not the \ key
[12:33] <MonsieurBon> fyrestrtr: no change. And no icon for my ipod or USB HD either
[12:33] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: n moves forward, shift+n moves to the previous match
[12:33] <fyrestrtr> MonsieurBon: open up a terminal window, and in it type tail -f /var/log/messages
[12:33] <frogzoo> Corporal_Dirge: you can search within man pages, you know...
[12:33] <fyrestrtr> then, unplug and replug in your ipod and usb hd and see what messages you get
[12:34] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: and you may be interested to know that firefox uses the same syntax :)
[12:34] <cwillu> (slashes, not mounting :p)
[12:34] <Corporal_Dirge> frogzoo, Well, I didn't know what to search for that would be helpful to setting default permissions, I had already tried -o rw and -w
[12:34] <MonsieurBon> fyrestrtr: Jul 22 12:34:20 localhost kernel: [17180393.756000]  usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11
[12:34] <fyrestrtr> MonsieurBon: what else?
[12:34] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: re: what frogzoo said:  its amazing how many helpful suggestions you get once you already know the answer, eh?  :)
[12:35] <Corporal_Dirge> But since it took 25 hours to encrypt the drive I didn't want to screw it up and start over.
[12:35] <MonsieurBon> fyrestrtr: the same keeps coming up
[12:35] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, lol, yeah. I got dead silence on the harder questions.
[12:35] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: -o rw, w, etc are low level things, i.e., you can have write permissions and still not be able to write to it (if it's mounted r)
[12:35] <MonsieurBon> fyrestrtr: with adress 13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 22, 23
[12:36] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: any luck?
[12:36] <fyrestrtr> MonsieurBon: hrmm.....
[12:36] <Priest-of-Psi> nah
[12:36] <Priest-of-Psi> hold
[12:36] <fyrestrtr> MonsieurBon: dunno what is the deal with your USB then.
[12:36] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: of course, you now realize that you're responsible for supporting any permissions related mounting problems for the next while, right?  :)
[12:37] <MonsieurBon> fyrestrtr: my USB works well though as I'm typing through it right now.
[12:37] <las3r> Hello peoples :)
[12:37] <las3r> So many people idling here :)
[12:37] <MonsieurBon> fyrestrtr: and it's not only usb devices. It's the CD-Rom as well
[12:37] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, I still don't know how the mask works.. 7 would block all? 6 would block all but x ?
[12:38] <cwillu> basically
[12:38] <baxteradam> hi. I'm looking for some help with an rt2570 wireless device on breezy
[12:38] <cwillu> it's the inverse of the permissions, so yes;  you set the ones that you don't want to provide
[12:38] <cwillu> don't ask why
[12:38] <las3r> Lol, i'm also looking for help on an wireless lan card, which won't get recognized by ubuntu
[12:38] <Corporal_Dirge> cwillu, Well, that's how a subnet mask works.
[12:39] <cwillu> (or do:  I think that you can chmod away permissions that aren't set via umask (and therefore active), but you can't add ones that are set)
[12:39] <baxteradam> las3r: what card is it?
[12:39] <las3r> uhm hold on i guess i got the type here h/o
[12:39] <MonsieurBon> fyrestrtr: ah, with an Audio-CD it works well. So it's really just the USB thing.
[12:39] <cwillu> Corporal_Dirge: in the sense that a subnet mask is really just a bit index, where as umask is an actual bitmask
[12:39] <Priest-of-Psi> cwillu: I am using the opensource driver
[12:39] <cwillu> (i.e., 192.168.0.1/24 has the same amount of meaning as 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0)
[12:40] <Priest-of-Psi> but I get no hardware acceleration
[12:40] <las3r> RT card 801.11g of course
[12:40] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: okay, let me just make sure I'm understanding everything
[12:40] <Priest-of-Psi> cwillu: composite works fine with the Radeon driver
[12:40] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: the opensource driver works fine when composite is disabled?
[12:40] <Priest-of-Psi> no no
[12:40] <pawan> does ubuntu not work on ext2 partition
[12:40] <las3r> i just installed ubuntu, and it's showing up as "Unknown device
[12:40] <Priest-of-Psi> but I have no hardware acceleration
[12:41] <fyrestrtr> pawan: yes
[12:41] <pawan> it works
[12:41] <pawan> then why ext 3
[12:42] <fyrestrtr> because ext3 has journal support
[12:42] <pawan> so we should go for ext2 or ext3
[12:42] <fyrestrtr> ext3
[12:43] <pawan> is swap partition necessary
[12:43] <las3r>  are there any open sourcedrivers available for wireless lan cards, if yes where can i find them
[12:43] <Subhuman> yes pawan
[12:43] <ardchoille> Is ext3 basically just ext2 with journaling?
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> yes, it is
[12:43] <Subhuman> ardchoille, yes.
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: yeap
[12:43] <ardchoille> Ahh
[12:43] <Subhuman> in fact ardchoille you can mount an ext3 as ext2
[12:43] <baxteradam> las3r: every card is different, it needs its own driver
[12:43] <ardchoille> Interesting
[12:43] <pawan> can it not work without a swap
[12:43] <Subhuman> but itz stupid, youd only do it if the os was real old.
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> no
[12:44] <las3r> Okay ic, well i'm new to this so i don't exactly know how to get it work,
[12:44] <baxteradam> las3r: I need the brand, model
[12:44] <las3r> i see hold on, i'll get it for ya
[12:44] <frogzoo> pawan: yes, but it's not a really good idea
[12:44] <las3r> i need to pick the box lal
[12:44] <pawan> can the partition on other disks
[12:44] <frogzoo> pawan: sure
[12:44] <ardchoille> Subhuman: Sounds like the equivalent is just turning journaling off
[12:44] <pawan> there are two hard disk
[12:44] <pawan> of 80gb in my system
[12:44] <Subhuman> ardchoille, it is really.
[12:45] <pawan> i want to setup ubuntu
[12:45] <pawan> how
[12:45] <pawan> first disk has four partition
[12:45] <pawan> and the second has three
[12:46] <baxteradam> wow, you guys don't need me wasting your time... pawan if you've got that many partitions you should know how to set up linux yourself
[12:46] <pawan> first has 20,20,20,20 gb partition
[12:46] <MonsieurBon> can anyone help me with my USB Problem?
[12:46] <bonsai> !anyone
[12:46] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:47] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, You need one small partition (about 256 to 512) it's a swap partition
[12:47] <pawan> and the second has 40,20,20 gb partition
[12:47] <pawan> help
[12:47] <pawan> all the partition are fat32 filesystem
[12:47] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, Don't worry, ubuntu can format tem for you
[12:48] <pawan> but i dont want to loose data
[12:48] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, Do you have the ubuntu cd?
[12:48] <pawan> yes
[12:48] <pawan> i have amd sempron system
[12:48] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan move the data and clear one of those partitions
[12:48] <pawan> whcih one
[12:48] <Corporal_Dirge> Any one
[12:49] <pawan> i both the disk there is one primary partition
[12:49] <pawan> which disk shoul i  use
[12:49] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, you have an empty partition?
[12:49] <b14ck> what musi i instal lto get xvideo suport for my videocard? it sais something like no xvid suport in mplayer
[12:49] <pawan> 64 bit version or the pc intel based version
[12:49] <b14ck> must*
[12:50] <pawan> yes
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> !restrictedformats > b14ck
[12:50] <Subhuman> !xvid
[12:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:50] <b14ck> ty
[12:51] <pawan> we have to specify two types of partition
[12:51] <las3r> baxteradam i'll be rebooting my pc, and getting out my pci card to write it down :)
[12:51] <las3r> after that i'll be back
[12:51] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan yes,
[12:51] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, Are you making this dual boot?
[12:51] <pawan> yes
[12:51] <diablo69> where can I turn in a guide I just made to help users with ubuntu
[12:51] <pawan> on one disk windows os
[12:52] <pawan> and on one ubuntu
[12:52] <pawan> how
[12:52] <fyrestrtr> diablo69: ubuntu forums
[12:52] <diablo69> ahh ok
[12:52] <diablo69> thought I could give it to someone here
[12:52] <diablo69> I know its original
[12:52] <diablo69> :)
[12:52] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, ubuntu will handle it.
[12:52] <Corporal_Dirge> Are you doing this on the same computer you typing on now?
[12:52] <ardchoille> diablo69: If you have time, can you pm me with the URL once you have the guide on the forums? I am always looking for new info about Ubuntu :)
[12:52] <pawan> yes
[12:53] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, ok, well, I'll find a guide since you'll be offline while installing. Are you connected wirelessly?
[12:53] <pawan> i was trying it for the whole day
[12:53] <pawan> but it didnt work
[12:54] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, Why wasn't it installing?
[12:54] <pawan> swap partion cannot be on other drives
[12:54] <diablo69> is this affliated with the wiki at all...one of my old guides was put up there, but I forgot who did that for me
[12:54] <pawan> it should be on the same disk
[12:55] <Corporal_Dirge> well, ubuntu can repartition that 20G hdd into a 19G with a 512MB partition next to it.
[12:55] <pawan> so i should not choose the manul partition
[12:55] <pawan> option
[12:55] <Corporal_Dirge> you should
[12:55] <Charlie> fyrestrtr: NthDegree : bad news
[12:55] <pawan> then
[12:56] <Charlie> It does not work.
[12:56] <diablo69> brw
[12:56] <diablo69> btw*
[12:56] <las3r> Hello, i have returned*
[12:56] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, I'd use windows to make the partitions now since you can see and know what ones have data in them.
[12:56] <diablo69> should I also write a guide on how to downgrade a 2.50 or 2.60 psp via wine on ubuntu?
[12:57] <ardchoille> What is the actual app/command that is launched when I choose System -> Quit? I want to put this into my desktop right-click menu.
[12:57] <Corporal_Dirge> right click My Computer -> Manage
[12:57] <las3r> I was asked the model and type of my wireless lan adapter, Brand: Sparklan , Model: WL-660R
[12:58] <NthDegree> Charlie, read the wiki then
[12:58] <pawan> then
[12:58] <las3r> i hope there is a certain person who can tell me how to install the wlan acrd card
[12:58] <NthDegree> theres a whole article of instructions on how to do it
[12:58] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, Disk Manager I think
[12:59] <pawan> yes
[12:59] <IseeIsee> if my apps gets stuck how can I forcibly close it ?
[12:59] <IseeIsee> like in windows I use alt-ctrl-del
[12:59] <b14ck> !xvid
[12:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:59] <Charlie> Let me explain more: I use ubuntu installation CD, during the installation(actually, not in real installation stage yet, even not the step of selecting mouting point),I think it is trying to set up X for next installation steps.. Then it aborts, The screen says something that "restart gdm after update.....". And then I think it goes to one of the "terminal console" and gives me command line prompt
[12:59] <bonsai> IseeIsee, there's a forcequit applet, you can add it to you panel (right-click on panel "add to panel")
[01:00] <pawan> then
[01:00] <pawan> i am see aall the partition
[01:00] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, delete the partition that is empty
[01:00] <Charlie> Now my problem becomes --- after I modified the xorg.conf, how can I resume the previous installation?
[01:00] <pawan> how
[01:00] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, right click it
[01:01] <pawan> it is showing
[01:01] <pawan> healthy unkoun part
[01:01] <Corporal_Dirge> unknown?
[01:01] <pawan> twoo
[01:01] <pawan> yes
[01:02] <Charlie> in other linux distribution, I can do it in text mode firstly and then config X. But looks like ubuntu 6.0.6 1st CD does not provide such option.....
[01:02] <Corporal_Dirge> it should show on the left a hdd, then on the right several blocks of partitions.
[01:02] <ardchoille> http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/359/mygnomecp1.png
[01:02] <pawan> yes
[01:02] <pawan> it is
[01:02] <ardchoille> oops, sorry, wrong window
[01:02] <pawan> my two partition are ext2
[01:03] <pawan> but it is not showing ext2
[01:03] <pawan> it is showing helathy unkown
[01:03] <las3r> a simply question
[01:03] <pawan> should i delete those two logical partition
[01:03] <joemauch> my friends Nforce2 Asus board won't recognize his Raid0 SATA setup, when he shuts down the live cd it says the RAID monitoring failed, any ideas?
[01:04] <las3r> i have 2 HDD's, 1 for windows XP, other one for ubunto to play around of a bit, and i don't have a floppy drive. Now i got my driver for my wlan card, how do i transfer it from my winxp HDD to my floppy HDD without burning 300 kb to a cd?
[01:04] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: from a console, run xkill then left click on the window of the application you want to close.
[01:04] <mc44> hey, is it possible to make the shutdown command not require a sudo password so I can run it as a cron job?
[01:05] <las3r> ***my winxp HDD to my UBUNTU HDD without burning 300 kb to a cd?
[01:05] <fyrestrtr> las3r: are both hdd on the same machine?
[01:05] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, How is it ext2 if it didn't install?
[01:05] <Charlie> Ommm, once I reboot, the xorg.conf I changed will be lost.... that's the problem. Can someone help me?
[01:05] <las3r> yup
[01:05] <cwillu> las3r: just mount the xp partition
[01:06] <las3r> on it right now
[01:06] <pawan> i done it manually
[01:06] <las3r> i'm very new to ubuntu and linux
[01:06] <cwillu> las3r: ubuntu has ntfs read support
[01:06] <pawan> using norton partition magic
[01:06] <cwillu> !ntfs > las3r
[01:06] <fyrestrtr> Charlie: download the alternate install cd, do the minimal server install, then install ubuntu-desktop and configure X manually.
[01:06] <ardchoille> mc44: you can run /sbin/shurdown as a cronjob with sudo crontab -e. /sbin/shutdown -r now for a reboot or /sbin/shutdown -h now for a shutdown.
[01:06] <pawan> from fat32 to ext2
[01:06] <DaJudge> what is the command to see what type of network card you are running?
[01:06] <pawan> then
[01:06] <fyrestrtr> DaJudge: what *type*?
[01:07] <burepe> I got a Japanese keyboard and the button with the opposite of [ is putting out \ Can I change it?
[01:07] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan don't worry about type ubuntu wil handle it.
[01:07] <cwillu> las3r: msg me if you need a hand with it
[01:07] <las3r> Okay thank you very much for the information
[01:07] <pawan> then how to install
[01:07] <las3r> I'll be trying it out :)
[01:07] <cwillu> but it should be pretty straightforward, if cryptic
[01:07] <las3r> THanks again!
[01:07] <cwillu> np
[01:07] <DaJudge> fyrestrtr: im trying to get the info on my network card.. what terminal command is it that displays this info?
[01:07] <Charlie> fyrestrtr: Yes, that should work... but that takes time to download and burn CD(even install via HDD)... so just trying to see if there is other ways....
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> burepe: yes, you can edit the keyboard mapping and change it.
[01:07] <burepe> how
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> DaJudge: ifconfig
[01:07] <burepe> ?
[01:08] <mc44> ardchoille: great, thanks!
[01:08] <ardchoille> mc44: You're welcome :)
[01:08] <fyrestrtr> burepe: I don't know about japanese keyboards, but look for an alternate keyboard mapping is /usr/share/xmodmap/ and then when you find one, xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.xx (where xx is the one you found)
[01:08] <pawan> should i again format it from here
[01:08] <DaJudge> fyrestrtr: that doesnt display the type of card it is.. sorry if I am not explaining my question very well.
[01:08] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan right clicking the partition you want to install doesn't give you the delete option
[01:08] <Corporal_Dirge> ?
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> DaJudge: you are not.
[01:09] <pawan> it gives delete option
[01:09] <pawan> it is empty
[01:09] <burepe> fyrestrtr: I have it mapped for Japanese. Just one key is wrong
[01:09] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: you remember the preverify execution problem I was having yesterday ? & I showed you a pastebin as well
[01:09] <pawan> should i delete both the partition
[01:09] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, delete the partition them
[01:09] <Corporal_Dirge> then
[01:09] <DaJudge> fyrestrtr: im looking for info on the make / manufacturer / version other into on the card.. is there a console command to get that info?
[01:09] <pawan> both
[01:10] <fyrestrtr> DaJudge: lspci -vv
[01:10] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: the java io exception
[01:10] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, is it gone?
[01:10] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: yeah, I remember.
[01:10] <pawan> i am deleteing it
[01:10] <DaJudge> fyrestrtr: ahh that works.. ty
[01:10] <fyrestrtr> burepe: if you know the keycode, you can just remap it :)
[01:10] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: read this:  Unix users - if you install a Wireless Toolkit for use by more than one user on your system, please ensure that all the users have the appropriate read and execute permissions on the contents of the toolkit.  For example, WTK's contain a preverifier that EclipseME will need to access during the build process.  If the user doing the build does not have execute  permissions on the preverifier, the build will fail.
[01:10] <pawan> nothing wil happen na
[01:11] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, it should be gone in a second or two.
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: sudo chmod a+x /path/to/whatever/preverify
[01:11] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: do you see a solution now ?
[01:11] <burepe> fyrestrtr: that is what I am trying to ask how to do.\
[01:11] <pawan> i have not given the command till yet
[01:12] <burepe> Anyone know how I can change 1 key's keycode?
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> burepe: oh. You can get the keycode via xev and then ... map it to one of the constants (read the xmodmap file to figure out which constant it is)
[01:12] <pawan> shoul i
[01:13] <DaJudge> fyrestrtr: what does the lspci command mean (in layman terms)?
[01:13] <Subhuman> Charlie, use the "alternative install" CD, it will let you install in text mode.
[01:13] <Corporal_Dirge> ??? I said yes a long time ago.. I can't help if you dilly dally on one step for a hal hour.
[01:13] <burepe> fixed it
[01:14] <brotakul> what's the terminal command to use wget? i mean how can i specify the download directory? "wget [url] "... ?
[01:14] <heikki-> wget url -O file
[01:14] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, If it's empty there's no harm.
[01:14] <fyrestrtr> DaJudge: its just prints whatever information the system has about the pci devices. 'list pci' -- man lspci :)
[01:14] <pawan> ok
[01:14] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: even after doing the command you told java.io.IOException: java.io.IOException: /media/hda7/wtk2.2/bin/preverify: cannot execute
[01:14] <burepe> Some reason it wasn't registered as a Japanese keyboard eventhough I set it up when I installed.
[01:14] <DaJudge> fyrestrtr: ty
[01:14] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, once deleted you'll make a partition there that's 512MB (the swap)
[01:14] <pawan> now it has changed to green color
[01:15] <pawan> as free space
[01:15] <cwillu> IseeIsee: is the execute permission set on that path?
[01:15] <pawan> what to do
[01:15] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: ls -l /media/hda7/wtk2.2/bin/ -- what permissions are on preverify ?
[01:15] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, then you'll use the rest and make it whatever filetype. filetype doesn't matter since install will format it.
[01:16] <Bakemono> hi
[01:16] <pawan> all the partitions
[01:16] <cwillu> fyrestrtr: IseeIsee:  if it's a mount, you'll probably need to set the permissions in fstab or the mount line via a umask
[01:16] <IseeIsee> fyrestrti: -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev   17269 2006-07-22 16:01 preverify
[01:16] <Corporal_Dirge> 20 this 20G partition will now be 512MB whatever and 19.5G whatever
[01:16] <IseeIsee> cwillu: I don't know whether its a mount or not, its a file which the j2me wireless toolkit has to execute
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: what is your mount line for that device?
[01:17] <pawan> ok
[01:17] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: what is a mount line ?
[01:17] <Priest-of-Psi> hi
[01:17] <Priest-of-Psi> I am having a issue with aiglx
[01:17] <cwillu> hey there
[01:17] <cwillu> any luck?
[01:17] <Priest-of-Psi> I cant run the fglrx driver now
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: type mount -- and check what options you have for that device
[01:17] <pawan> so i should select manual partition option
[01:17] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, Lets make sure your ADM Sempron uses 64bit.. Some do some don't.
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> Priest-of-Psi: aiglx works with open source drivers.
[01:17] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, For the 512M?
[01:17] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr type mount -- where ? on any directory ?
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> fglrx != open source
[01:17] <burepe> anyone know about a problem with Japanese text in the gui where the hiragana and kanji are on a diffrent plane, meaning they are not level with each other.
[01:18] <pawan> so which install cd should i use
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: yes
[01:18] <Priest-of-Psi> fyrestrtr:
[01:18] <Priest-of-Psi> it does not start at all with the radeon driver
[01:18] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, That's what I ws asking you. What AMD Sempron type is it?
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> Priest-of-Psi: what do you expect? its highly beta software.
[01:18] <pawan> it is a 64bit
[01:18] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: what error did you get with the open-source driver?
[01:18] <Corporal_Dirge> ok, you'll  use the 64bit Ubuntu then.
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> Priest-of-Psi: why don't you use xgl -- its what most people have reported success with.
[01:19] <Corporal_Dirge> Got your partitions figured out?
[01:19] <Priest-of-Psi> gdm just restands
[01:19] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: what do you wanna know from the output being shown ?
[01:19] <Priest-of-Psi> restarts even
[01:19] <pawan> but many application is ubuntu are 32 bit
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: what options are there for the /media/hda7 partition.
[01:19] <nomin> why does my computer freeze when I try to read the 'description' for the passwd and login updates?
[01:20] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, But you'll have a harder time getting a 32bit kernel to run on a 64 chip, so intall 64.
[01:20] <pawan> the yellow disk na
[01:20] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: /dev/hda4 on /media/hda7 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[01:20] <IseeIsee> /dev/hda4 on /media/hda7 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[01:20] <Corporal_Dirge> pawan, Got the partitions set up?
[01:20] <pawan> i have to restart the system na
[01:20] <pawan> and boot to ubuntu
[01:21] <abhinay> i got a serious problem when i upgrade dapper grade to edgy eft
[01:21] <pawan> he will set the partitions automatically na
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: hrmm I think your umask is causing problems. Remount it with umask=0000 (that's 4 0, not 3)
[01:21] <abhinay> wot is the correct method to upgrade to edgy eft ?
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: there is no method yet. There is no release for eft. Besides, eft is in #ubuntu+1
[01:22] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: what would remounting mean & how can I do that /
[01:22] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, i did replace all dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list   & sudo apt-get update  , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:22] <Da_Putzler> Hi peeps
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: open up /etc/fstab, and edit the umask=007 to umask=0000 for /dev/hda4, save the file. Then sudo umount /dev/hda4 and then mount -a
[01:23] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, when i restart the system xorg failed to start
[01:23] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, broken packages
[01:23] <Ishmael> hello
[01:23] <Da_Putzler> can someone help me with a Firestarter problem ??? I'm trying to run uTorrent on WINE and I've set a rule for uTorrent in firestarter, but it still wont work... any ideas ???
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: please, ask in #ubuntu+1 -- edgy is very early alpha. Expect a broken system if you do something like that.
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> Da_Putzler: why are you running utorrent when there are plenty of torrent clients in ubuntu?
[01:24] <ljlolel> abhinay: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg to make sure everythingis new
[01:24] <Da_Putzler> uTorrent is way better than ALL the torrent clients I've seen on Ubuntu... unless u can recommend one I dont know about ?
[01:24] <Ishmael> can anyone tell me why I can't increase the monitor's resolution since 60 Hz
[01:24] <frogzoo> !fixres > Ishmael
[01:24] <adgkujhuouy> join ubuntu-fr
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> Da_Putzler: I'm just saying, the way you are doing it -- its just stupid. Sorry, but that's the truth.
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> Ishmael: is it a LCD?
[01:25] <Da_Putzler> fyrestrtr... I've tried BitTorrent, Azureus, Qtorrent, RTorrent etc. but they still dont compare to uTorrent...
[01:25] <Ishmael> fyrestrtr, no, it isn, its CRC 15"
[01:25] <Charlie> Subhuman: thanks! that's the last step I want to do since I only have install CD in hand. this time I did not order that one...
[01:25] <abhinay> xserver-xorg already hv a new version & it is saying Errors were encountered while processing: acpid acpi-support E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:25] <abhinay>  acpid
[01:25] <abhinay>  acpi-support
[01:25] <abhinay> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> Da_Putzler: what do you find missing?
[01:25] <Da_Putzler> I just need help with the firewall to get it to see the .net properly
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: again -- take it #ubuntu+1 !!!
[01:26] <MistaED> da_putzler: what makes utorrent so special?
[01:26] <Da_Putzler> most dont give u file selectoin in torrents... more are too slow... most dont have access to DHT
[01:26] <Da_Putzler> most dont have a simple interface
[01:26] <Charlie> Another question, I have 30G allocated for Linux, how much should I allocate for SWAP?
[01:26] <ardchoille> Da_Putzler: "most" work without wine ;)
[01:27] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: I executed the commands as you said
[01:27] <frogzoo> Charlie: how much mem you got?
[01:27] <Tommy2k4> double your ram
[01:27] <Da_Putzler> that's true... but I just cant seem to find a good and fast torrent client... what do you guys use ???
[01:27] <Tommy2k4> unless you got over 1gb
[01:27] <fuoco> does anyone here know a bit about lvm ?
[01:28] <Charlie> frogzoo: 512M
[01:28] <ardchoille> !lvm
[01:28] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:28] <frogzoo> Charlie: a gig will do fine
[01:28] <IseeIsee> frystrtr: what should I do next ? the hda4 is mounted as 0000 now
[01:28] <brotherJohn1234> Da_Putzler:  me uses bittornado
[01:28] <feet> hello. i need to install the package nvidia-glx. when i do, it tells me i need to get the 386 kernel packages. but i dont use the kernel and dont want to. am i doing something wrong?
[01:28] <cwillu> Priest-of-Psi: IseeIsee try it again I suppose
[01:28] <Charlie> frogzoo: Wow, is that much I need? seems a lot
[01:28] <Priest-of-Psi> eh
[01:28] <cwillu> oops, extra name in there
[01:28] <Priest-of-Psi> it froze my pc
[01:29] <ardchoille> feet: which kernel do you use?
[01:29] <fuoco> ardchoille: my question is, do i need to put /boot outside of the lvm ?
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: now run sudo chmod a+x /whatever/whate/ver/preverify
[01:29] <feet> latest 686
[01:29] <cwillu> fyrestrtr: it'll probably be already +x
[01:29] <cwillu> but I could be mistaken
[01:29] <ardchoille> fuoco: *that* I don't know. I was just hoping the ubotu post would help
[01:29] <Da_Putzler> bittornado is ok, but interface and separate d/l windows are a pain
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> Da_Putzler: all your complaints are moot because Azureus does all that and then more, plus it runs without wine.
[01:30] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: I did
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> cwillu: think it resets file perms, but I don't know to be honest.
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> IseeIsee: now try your compile.
[01:30] <Da_Putzler> Azureus crashes on use, prefs screen doesnt work and it's a resource hog...
[01:30] <feet> azureus crashes for me too
[01:30] <frogzoo> Charlie: that gives you total 1.5gig of virtual memory, which you'll find you actually do need
[01:30] <cwillu> fyrestrtr: it should be reset to the opposite of the umask though
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> Da_Putzler: all your problems are easy to fix, if you do a bit of search -- but hey, why am I arguing with you? :) Do what you feel best, just don't come here expecting support on it.
[01:30] <IseeIsee> fyrestrtr: damn it working :D now tell me what was the problem, I don't understand this mounting terminology
[01:31] <Charlie> frogzoo: okay, I see. Just reduce 1 more G for Windoze. :)
[01:31] <fyrestrtr> I'll let cwillu explain to you the whole mask thing, as he did it before and I have to step to another machine.
[01:31] <Da_Putzler> fyrestrtr, dude, all I asked was for help on a firewall problem... I'm not here to argue what torrent program is best...
[01:32] <Charlie> while need to resolve my installation problem firstly.. Sigh...
[01:32] <IseeIsee> cwillu: explain to me this umask thing which was not enabling the file to execute if you have followed from above
[01:32] <fyrestrtr> Da_Putzler: okay, no problem. Just letting you know -- don't expect a lot of help, because almost everyone will tell you -- run a bt client in ubuntu and not wine.
[01:32] <[Phaedrus] > hey, is the issue with xgl, intel cards and suspend mode any closer to getting fixed?
[01:32] <fyrestrtr> [Phaedrus] : #ubuntu-xgl ;)
[01:32] <frogzoo> Da_Putzler: it takes 60 seconds to configure firestarter for azureus, just btw
[01:32] <[Phaedrus] > thanks fyrestrtr
[01:33] <Da_Putzler> that's IF azureus will work fo rme...
[01:33] <IseeIsee> cwillu ?
[01:33] <ardchoille> Da_Putzler: Please take complaints to another channel. This is ubuntu support, note "I want support for a windows app to get it to work in wine".
[01:34] <ardchoille> s/note/not/
[01:34] <Da_Putzler> ??? this is an Ubuntu support question... just because it's a windows program doesnt mean I dont need help...
[01:34] <brotherJohn1234> hmm
[01:35] <[Phaedrus] > azureus is a windows program? i am confused now
[01:35] <NthDegree> Da_Putzler you miss the point
[01:35] <[Phaedrus] > isnt there a linux variant?
[01:35] <Ishmael> sorry, which were the fast keys to restart gdm?
[01:35] <[Phaedrus] > but yep, Da_Putzler  did miss the point :)
[01:35] <kbrooks> [Phaedrus] : no, its a Java program
[01:35] <NthDegree> [Phaedrus]  Azureus is made for all platforms AFAIK
[01:35] <ardchoille> [Phaedrus] : He's trying to get a windows torrent client to work in wine
[01:35] <[Phaedrus] > oh my
[01:35] <[Phaedrus] > that windows client was bulky and slow as it is
[01:35] <Da_Putzler> the point is, I asked nicely for help in an ubuntu room and you guys are acting all superior just because I wanna use a windows program and not a linux one...
[01:36] <[Phaedrus] > Da_Putzler,  stop tormenting your machine :)
[01:36] <kbrooks> Da_Putzler: well, lets see....
[01:36] <stabby-> uTorrent is best client
[01:36] <NthDegree> Da_Putzler, we are not! this is an ubuntu support channel not a wine support channel
[01:36] <kbrooks> Da_Putzler: i recommnd you ask the forums on this
[01:36] <feet> Da_Putzler: why not find the WINE irc chat room
[01:36] <NthDegree> go in #winehq and ask
[01:36] <Da_Putzler> I just installed Azureus (again) and is crashes (again) on running it...
[01:37] <kbrooks> Da_Putzler: yes its offtopic there, but they certainly will help you
[01:37] <[Phaedrus] > Da_Putzler, if you must know..
[01:37] <IseeIsee> frystrtr: keep this umask thing in mind, i'll ask you some other time when you are a bit free
[01:37] <brotherJohn1234> Da_Putzler: you might ask in the azureus - channel as well.
[01:37] <feet> ya cos my question about the nvidia-glx seems to have gotten lost in the all this arguing. so can ya just try asking in those other rooms ? lol
[01:37] <NthDegree> Da_Putzler: you are trying to run azureus
[01:37] <[Phaedrus] > azereus, opens up a heck of a lot of threads, and it is probably one reason why wine cant handle it
[01:37] <NthDegree> Da_Putzler: you are trying to run azureus?
[01:38] <NthDegree> Da_Putzler: that has a linux version
[01:38] <[Phaedrus] > NthDegree, the windows version apparently
[01:38] <NthDegree> oh my lord
[01:38] <Da_Putzler> yeah, 1st thing it said was a warning and nothing appeared... then 2nd time I run it, none of the menus or options work...
[01:38] <[Phaedrus] > apparently he ONLY wants the windows version
[01:38] <feet> azuerus for linux crashses for me. it might do for him
[01:38] <Da_Putzler> nthdegree: I have the ubutnu versio ninstalled from repo
[01:38] <NthDegree> then you dont need wine to use it :|
[01:39] <Da_Putzler> nthDegree... I was using WINE to try and run uTorrent... but that didnt work... and on advice I tried Azureus again, which still doesnt work either
[01:39] <[Phaedrus] > Da_Putzler, check out the azareus channel... they might be able to help
[01:39] <[Phaedrus] > *azureus
[01:39] <thoreauputic> Da_Putzler: I assume you installed java correctly? And did the sudo update-alternatives --config java ?
[01:39] <NthDegree> they wont methinks
[01:39] <thoreauputic> Da_Putzler: for azureus I mean
[01:39] <NthDegree> its a CVS copy I bet
[01:40] <[Phaedrus] > well, go ask the wine people why they do such a sucky job :)
[01:40] <[Phaedrus] > that should inspire em!
[01:40] <NthDegree> Azureus for Windows wont work in WINE
[01:40] <brotherJohn1234> hehe
[01:40] <NthDegree> because it uses JRE
[01:40] <ardchoille> [Phaedrus] : I read a recent paper that praised wine.. they said it works so well that it even runs windows viruses, trojans, worms flawlessly.
[01:40] <thoreauputic> !info azureus
[01:40] <Da_Putzler> nthdegree, am using Linux version of Azureus... not windows
[01:40] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0.2-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 5680 kB, installed size 6408 kB
[01:41] <ardchoille> Which is why I'll never use wine
[01:41] <thoreauputic> NthDegree: no need for wine - and it works well here at least
[01:41] <NthDegree> Da_Putzler, my advice is either grab the azureus from the azureus site or use the official bittorrent client
[01:41] <thoreauputic> NthDegree: there's not much wrong with the universe package for azureus
[01:42] <[Phaedrus] > ardchoille: thats funny
[01:42] <ardchoille> [Phaedrus] : It's also true :)
[01:42] <[Phaedrus] > ardchoille, its also so very sad! :)
[01:42] <NthDegree> actually the packages for nvidia, azureus, bum and a few others seem to have a few issues with me
[01:43] <thoreauputic> NthDegree: only bug I've seen is that the popup in the bottom right won't go away if it shows an error
[01:43] <Da_Putzler> that's the problem I have... and cant get rid of it
[01:43] <thoreauputic> which requires a quit and restart
[01:43] <NthDegree> it does go away
[01:43] <Da_Putzler> how ? there's no azureus on screen to quit and restart...
[01:44] <thoreauputic> NthDegree: it does?
[01:44] <NthDegree> you can click it away but a timeouted away works fine
[01:44] <NthDegree> cant*
[01:44] <thoreauputic> Da_Putzler: you mean the GUI doesn't even start for you?
[01:44] <feet> same thing happens for me, Da_Putzler! so you aint alone :P
[01:44] <Da_Putzler> no, I have to run zureus twice... once for the error in the corner (which WONT go away) and 2nd time for the front-end, which crashes when I select anything from a menu
[01:45] <thoreauputic> Da_Putzler: are you using sun java?
[01:45] <Da_Putzler> yes, and it's configured as default java client
[01:45] <[Phaedrus] > Da_Putzler, why dont you try the console version?
[01:45] <NthDegree> update java and then grab the azureus off the azureus website
[01:45] <rpedro> Da_Putzler: the notify message in the corner that stays allways on top is a known bug for azureus, type /j #azureus and ask there
[01:45] <NthDegree> /join #azureus
[01:45] <NthDegree> much better :)
[01:46] <thoreauputic> Da_Putzler: sounds like you are having some bad luck - it works well here and is surprisingly light on resources
[01:46] <FrEdAtTaCk> hello
[01:46] <Da_Putzler> cant get it working here, and it even installed Mozilla browser which I didnt ask for
[01:46] <[Phaedrus] > heh
[01:46] <[Phaedrus] > thats funny
[01:46] <NthDegree> grab azureus off the azureus website
[01:46] <FrEdAtTaCk> i have a install problem with ubuntu , my hard drive is't reconized
[01:46] <[Phaedrus] > "cant work.. what shall i do... oh yeah, let's install mozilla from source!" :)
[01:46] <FrEdAtTaCk> isn't
[01:47] <thoreauputic> Da_Putzler: yeah - no idea why it depends on mozilla - that seems weird
[01:47] <[Phaedrus] > Fred, you sure its plugged in?
[01:47] <fubaclbbm> Hey, I dowload flash player to my desktop for installation, now I can't move the damn thing off my desktop
[01:47] <FrEdAtTaCk> yes, I have partition it with partition magic with diskettes
[01:47] <FrEdAtTaCk> diskettes (floppy disks)
[01:48] <thoreauputic> fubaclbbm: you can delet the installer download once it is installed
[01:48] <nrdb> Hi I have just install ubuntu from the 6.06 LiveCD.  I have a "Ensoniq AudioPCI" card but I can't get "Sound Recorder 2.14.0" to record any sound from the microphone.  I have adjusted the levels with "Volume Control 2.14.0".  Can anyone help?
[01:48] <FrEdAtTaCk> always when I will install it fails on the partition screen , also with the alternate version
[01:48] <fubaclbbm> thoreanputic: how? can't move it to trash...no permission
[01:49] <thoreauputic> fubaclbbm: but there's a package in the repos anyway ( downloads and installs the plaer for you)
[01:49] <IseeIsee> frystrtr: the settings you ask me to make to that umask it won't effect anything, I mean my drives will automatically be mounted ?
[01:49] <IseeIsee> when I restart my computer
[01:49] <[Phaedrus] > fubaclbbm, just su and go to the desktop directory and delete it
[01:49] <ardchoille> fubaclbbm: open a term, type ls -la ?home/$USER/Desktop and look at the ownership and perms of the file you can't move.
[01:50] <ardchoille> s/?home//home/
[01:50] <thoreauputic> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[01:50] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:50] <fubaclbbm> threauputic ...fine, but how do I get this damn file off my deshtop, please.
[01:50] <FrEdAtTaCk> I hava a via vt8237a sata controller and I think that thisone is not recognized
[01:50] <thoreauputic> fubaclbbm: sudo rm ~/Desktop/nameof-file
[01:50] <ardchoille> thoreauputic: That's even better
[01:51] <thoreauputic> fubaclbbm: it should have your permissions anyway ubless you got it as root
[01:51] <wheels3572> How can I embed a few screen shots into pastebin exactly where I want them?
[01:51] <Enverex> What is the name of the gtk{+/2} package?
[01:51] <fubaclbbm> thoreauputic. Thanks
[01:51] <thoreauputic> Enverex: which one?
[01:52] <Enverex> thoreauputic, Something has GTK as a dependency and I'm trying to build it with pbuilder
[01:52] <thoreauputic> fubaclbbm: no worries - install flashplugin-nonfree - it's easier
[01:52] <thoreauputic> Enverex: possibly libgtk2-dev or something like that -
[01:52] <bilss_> hello
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Enverex: apt-cache search libgtk*-dev
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Enverex: should give you some options
[01:53] <Enverex> libgtk2.0-dev
[01:53] <bilss_> i had a cron job going in user name lex1 and swap it to user name admin  but now it does not work any ideas?
[01:54] <wheels3572> Can someone help me with embedding screen shots into pastebin please
[01:54] <nrdb> I have an "Ensoniq AudioPCI" card ubuntu wont record from the microphone :-( can anyone help?
[01:54] <fyre|work> nrdb: tried unmuting the mic channel?
[01:55] <nrdb> fyre|work: yes no help.
[01:55] <ardchoille> wheels3572: If you want a pastebin-type site for screenshots, there's: http://www.imageshack.us/
[01:55] <nrdb> fyre|work: I can here the microphone in the speakers.
[01:55] <bilss_> ompaul: thought you would be out in the garden?
[01:56] <ubuntu__> ?
[01:56] <ompaul> bilss_, not a hope of that - back to work for me :-)
[01:57] <bilss_> ompaul: and what work would that be?
[01:57] <Da_Putzler> hmm, no-one in #azureus is talking
[01:57] <ompaul> bilss_, computer stuff - l8r
[01:57] <bilss_> ompaul: ok
[01:57] <rpedro> Da_Putzler: try #azureus-support
[01:57] <Da_Putzler> How do I Terminate a java process that's running and stalled ???
[01:58] <fyre|work> find the process id of it, then issue sudo kill processid
[01:59] <Da_Putzler> that's the thing, I cant see it in the process list
[01:59] <bilss_> i had a cron job going in user name lex1 and swap it to user name admin  but now it does not work any ideas?
[01:59] <rpedro> Da_Putzler: If you're having trouble with java than the new azureus beta won't help, you need to first sort out how java is configured
[01:59] <fyre|work> Da_Putzler: ps aux
[01:59] <fyre|work> Da_Putzler: ps aux | grep java -- you don't see it there?
[01:59] <wheels3572> ardchoille: I want to be able to show screen shots and have htem under my text and explain them lol
[02:00] <nomin> "ps aux | less"  lets you scroll through all the processes
[02:00] <ardchoille> wheels3572: Hmm.. not sure how to do that except write a quick webpage
[02:00] <Da_Putzler> see what there ? and I'm using the Azureus from the Ubuntu Repository, not the beta
[02:01] <fyre|work> Da_Putzler: something like this
[02:01] <fyre|work> java -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni:/usr/lib -Dgnu.gcj.runtime.VMClassLoader.library_control=never -Dazureus.install.path=/home/burhan/.azureus -classpath /usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar:/usr/share/java/gnu-crypto.jar:/usr/share/java/bcprov.jar:/usr/share/java/log4j-1.2.jar:/usr/share/java/commons-cli.jar:/usr/lib/java/swt3.1-gtk.jar:/usr/share/java/glib0.2.jar:/usr/share/java/cairo1.0.jar:/usr/share/java/gtk2.8.jar org.gudy.azureus2.ui.
[02:01] <fyre|work> whoops
[02:02] <kintaro0e> hi guys..i thinks someone is connected to my server..i dont know the command to look whos connected to my server. any advice?
[02:02] <Da_Putzler> yeh, it appears on the list for me
[02:02] <fyre|work> Da_Putzler: find the process id of it, then sudo kill pid
[02:03] <fyre|work> kintaro0e: type w on the terminal
[02:03] <Da_Putzler> that's the thing, azureus doesnt appear on the process list , and the warning is still there
[02:04] <fyre|work> Da_Putzler: I thought you just said, it appears on the list for me?
[02:04] <calex71> need some help accessing samba file shares from xp
[02:04] <fyre|work> Da_Putzler: its not going to say 'Azuereus'
[02:04] <kintaro0e> fyre|work..w which will show the users who login?
[02:04] <_atomic> Hello
[02:04] <StAfZe6> sup
[02:04] <fyre|work> kintaro0e: yes, type w and hit enter
[02:04] <kintaro0e> ah..
[02:04] <kintaro0e> thanks
[02:05] <kintaro0e> btw fyre|work..i want to install vmware on my server..
[02:05] <jez> Hi
[02:05] <kintaro0e> is there a vmware for console..so that i wont install X
[02:05] <kintaro0e> fyre|work..any advice on it?
[02:05] <fyre|work> I don't know much about vmware -- but I know that it requires X.
[02:05] <mastermoll88> care anyone help me with MythTV !??!?!?!?!
[02:05] <fyre|work> what did you want to run on it?
[02:05] <StAfZe6> fun
[02:06] <kintaro0e> fyre|work..windows OS
[02:06] <fyre|work> kintaro0e: you need X
[02:06] <mastermoll88> can anyone help me with MythTV !??!?!?!?!
[02:06] <calex71> im trying to access a samaba share from xp but i get prompted fro a login i give it my login but just keeps prompting me, i dont think i set up the samba share correctly
[02:06] <wheels3572> ardchoille: can you look at this please
[02:06] <fyre|work> !repeat
[02:06] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:06] <wheels3572> ooops
[02:06] <mastermoll88> can anyone help me with MythTV !??!?!?!?!
[02:07] <fyre|work> mastermoll88: stop repeating
[02:07] <brotakul> lol, that's great :)
[02:07] <mastermoll88> sorry
[02:07] <kintaro0e> fyre|work...thanks..
[02:07] <mastermoll88> i am kind of bored and want to get mythTV to work
[02:07] <ardchoille> mastermoll88: Please don't repeat your question every minute, it doesn't help get an answer any faster and some folks may just put you on ignore.
[02:07] <wheels3572> ardchoille: can you look at this please?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18599
[02:07] <fyre|work> and stop using so many ? and !
[02:08] <nomin> mastermoll88:  I would like to get mythtv working also.  I've installed it a while ago but didn't configure it.  I'm guessing that configuring shouldn't take too long, but I don't quite know exactly what to do.
[02:08] <nomin> mastermoll88:  I think you need to configure mysql and then configure mythtv.  Synaptic does all the installing.
[02:09] <fyre|work> mastermoll88: #mythtv-users
[02:09] <ardchoille> wheels3572: You can add a drive/partition to your fstab and it will auto-mount on boot
[02:09] <narfmaster> kintaro0e, you want Windows on your server?
[02:10] <wheels3572> ardchoille: how do I go about doing that?
[02:10] <jez> quit
[02:10] <kintaro0e> narfmaster..yes..
[02:10] <ardchoille> !fstab > wheels3572
[02:10] <bilss_> i had a cron job going in user name lex1 and swap it to user name admin  but now it does not work any ideas?
[02:11] <kintaro0e> narfmaster..i have a ubuntu server and runvmware on it on the vmware install the windows OS
[02:11] <wheels3572> Thanks ardchoille :)
[02:11] <narfmaster> kintaro0e, but what use is Windows without a GUI?
[02:11] <ardchoille> wheels3572: You're welcome :)
[02:12] <calex71> im trying to access a samaba share from xp but i get prompted fro a login i give it my login but just keeps prompting me, i dont think i set up the samba share correctly
[02:13] <Foobal> calex71: disable the ntlm2
[02:13] <kintaro0e> narfmaster..what i'll do is.run windows on the server then the developers will just use VNC
[02:13] <veki> when I want to print I have information from cups that printer is busy although it is not busy so I cannot print.  When I updated it cups  is up but I cannot access its GUI
[02:13] <Ziggamon> hi! does anyone have any pointers on how to debug a DVDRW unit?
[02:14] <narfmaster> kintaro0e, but doesn't VNC need xserver?
[02:14] <calex71> Foobal how do it do that?
[02:14] <wheels3572> ardchoille: Hmmm that didnt' do it for me I cant understand either one cuz it doesn't give a description of a directory mount
[02:14] <kintaro0e> narfmaster..or maybe vmware console to connect to the server..
[02:15] <fyre|work> kintaro0e: vnc is not a terminal server (which is what you need). You need to buy the vmware virtualization software.
[02:15] <ardchoille> wheels3572: You can just have the drive/partition auto-mounted and create a symlink to it. Would that help?
[02:15] <kintaro0e> fyre|work..vmware has a free server..
[02:16] <fyre|work> well, you need that then :)
[02:16] <kintaro0e> fyre|work..yah
[02:17] <b14ck> i installed some nvidia drivers and now X won't start.
[02:17] <stefg> b14ck: how did you install them?
[02:18] <rpedro> Da_Putzler: you there ?
[02:18] <kbrooks> fyre|work: vmware server letsv you run the server on YOUR own machine
[02:18] <Da_Putzler> yeh
[02:18] <nrd1> does anyone know if a audio card using a "CMedia CMI8738/PCI-6ch-LX" chipset works with Linux?
[02:18] <stefg> !sond
[02:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about sond - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:18] <stefg> !sound
[02:18] <Da_Putzler> I've replaced the .jar file with the new beta download...
[02:18] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:18] <b14ck> stefg: following the ubuntu wiki. from synaptic. and then activating them with some sudo command
[02:19] <wheels3572> I have the drive itself automounted
[02:19] <wheels3572> ardchoille: how would I just create a symlink
[02:19] <kintaro0e> fyre|work..but what i'm planning is install a vmware server only console with windows os..that i dont need to install xserver. then the developers will connect it to the server using a vnc if this will work..but what you said it need X
[02:19] <kintaro0e> hahaha
[02:19] <narfmaster> nrd1, most things will work fine - so unless you Google it and find lots of people complaining it probably will work
[02:19] <stefg> b14ck: what kernel? 'uname -r# ?
[02:19] <stefg> b14ck: what kernel? 'uname -r ?
[02:20] <b14ck> stefg: i dont know.
[02:20] <rpedro> Da_Putzler: and it works now?
[02:20] <Hexidigital_> hi guys... is there a wiki for connecting Ubuntu to a Windows 2000 server? i checked, but maybe i misworded it?
[02:20] <aimaz> is there a way for root to see what an ssh user is doing as they do it?
[02:20] <nrd1> narfmaster: ok I will look
[02:20] <stefg> type uname -r in terminal, that will tell you
[02:20] <gnomefreak> b14ck: type uname -r  in temrinal than hit enter
[02:20] <Da_Putzler> still wont let me run Azureus...
[02:20] <Da_Putzler> the Warning msg is still in the corner and I cannot see a process name for me to kill it
[02:20] <Da_Putzler> and I cant reboot cause I'm sharing internet with 7 other ppl
[02:21] <ardchoille> wheels3572: BACKUP DATA is on a different device or partition than your Ubuntinstall, correct?
[02:21] <b14ck> if x can't start the whole thing is a terminal
[02:21] <b14ck> ok after uname -r then what?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> b14ck: what kernel is it?
[02:22] <b14ck> gnomefreak: i have to switch to linux and then back to windows to tell you that
[02:22] <narfmaster> Da_Putzler, sudo update-alternatives --config java <-- try this
[02:22] <Da_Putzler> narf: done that, selected sun's jre1.5 from list...
[02:22] <wheels3572> ardchoille: Yes the backup data is on my Western DIgital 20GB my install of Linux is on my 80GB Samsun
[02:23] <rpedro> Da_Putzler: type 'ps aux|grep azureus' , and the 'sudo kill <pid>' , where pid is the first process id that appears after your username
[02:23] <VanDaMe> anybody tried to install shoutcast server on amd64 ?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> b14ck: boot to linux run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure the drivers are set on vesa (that should give you a low res but should give you gui
[02:23] <intelligi> Anyone know if Linux is able to communicate with the Axim 51v?
[02:24] <ardchoille> wheels3572: ok, you need to mount the desired device, then create a symlink from the mountpoint, then edit /etc/fstab to auto-mount that device in the same mountpount on boot. That's what I did.
[02:24] <VanDaMe> anybody tried to install shoutcast server on amd64 ?
[02:24] <b14ck> gnomefreak: ok thanx then i'll come back from linux
[02:24] <gnomefreak> b14ck: than come back
[02:24] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[02:24] <stefg> b14ck: no you don't... you have 6 virtual consoles on [ctrl-alt-F1 to F6] 
[02:24] <Raito_> How do you install a nautilus script? I put it in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and made it executable but I don't see it, did I miss something?
[02:24] <Da_Putzler> that worked... thanks rpedro
[02:24] <narfmaster> intelligi, what type of device is that?
[02:24] <Raito_> sorry fi someone answered me, I disconnected
[02:24] <Da_Putzler> running now *phew*... do I have to do anything with the firewall
[02:25] <ardchoille> wheels3572: ex. I had my other drive mounted at /mnt/alt so I had to create the symlink from /mnt/alt/Documents/text
[02:25] <bilss_> i had a cron job going in user name lex1 and swap it to user name admin  but now it does not work any ideas?
[02:25] <intelligi> narfmaster, a pda.
[02:25] <rpedro> Da_Putzler: np
[02:25] <bilss_> anyone any ideas please
[02:26] <narfmaster> Raito_, you may need to killall nautilus before you can get the scripts going the first time
[02:26] <Da_Putzler> do I add port 50875 to firestarter ???
[02:26] <Raito_> narfmaster oh, ok
[02:26] <Raito_> that works! thanks
[02:26] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[02:27] <[Wiebel] > what happend to the network-manager package?
[02:27] <VanDaMe> someone help me please
[02:27] <narfmaster> !info network-manager
[02:27] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework (daemon). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 532 kB
[02:28] <steveire> how can I make the commands in my .sh file appear when I run the file? It used to be @echo on or something for .bat files under windows
[02:28] <ardchoille> cat filename.sh
[02:28] <narfmaster> ardchoille, lol
[02:28] <narfmaster> not exactly the same thing :p
[02:29] <Beforewisdom> Hi.  I need to find out what devices my dvd readers, writers are ( /dev/hd?).  I tried cdrecord -scanbus and got told it doesn't work with the latest kernel that dapper's update manager installed for me.  Is there another way to find this information out?  Thanks much in advance
[02:29] <ardchoille> narfmaster: then I totally misunderstood the question
[02:29] <wheels3572> !symlink > wheels3572
[02:29] <narfmaster> batch files echo as it interprets
[02:30] <wheels3572> How do I create a symlink lol
[02:30] <cyber> Hi everyone
[02:30] <VanDaMe> hi
[02:30] <ardchoille> wheels3572: ln -s target file
[02:30] <cyber> Can anyone help me with a CUPS-related problem?
[02:30] <VanDaMe> anybody tried to install shoutcast server on amd64 ?
[02:31] <cyber> I am able to print on the printing server, but cannot print on networked clients
[02:31] <rpedro> !anyone
[02:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:31] <Da_Putzler> narfmaster, azureus is working...
[02:31] <stefg> !CUPS
[02:31] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:31] <narfmaster> Da_Putzler, good :)
[02:31] <Da_Putzler> is there anything else I should do to make it run more efficiently/faster
[02:31] <wheels3572> ok
[02:31] <angel> pl!
[02:31] <angel> !pl
[02:31] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[02:31] <VanDaMe> !shoutcast
[02:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about shoutcast - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:31] <Enverex> !peoplethatcan'tbebotheredtoanswerquestionssotheyjustput!infrontofakeyword
[02:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about peoplethatcan'tbebotheredtoanswerquestionssotheyjustput!infrontofakeyword - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:31] <narfmaster> Da_Putzler, just make sure you have your firewall configured properly
[02:31] <gnomefreak> dont play with the bot please
[02:32] <wheels3572> ardchoille: my i pm you?
[02:32] <Da_Putzler> it's using port 50875 and the firewall has allowed that for everyone to use
[02:32] <ardchoille> wheels3572: Sure :)
[02:32] <[Wiebel] > root@lateralus:~# apt-cache search network-manager-gnome
[02:32] <[Wiebel] > root@lateralus:~#
[02:32] <[Wiebel] > hmmm?
[02:32] <frogzoo> Enverex: so what's the problem?
[02:32] <narfmaster> !info network-manager-gnome
[02:32] <Hexidigital_> [Wiebel] ::  why are you logging in as root?
[02:32] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[02:33] <Enverex> frogzoo, hmm?
[02:33] <[Wiebel] > Hexidigital_: what does that have to do with it?
[02:33] <frogzoo> Enverex: people aren't owed to be helped, especially if people wont read the docs
[02:33] <Enverex> meh
[02:33] <Hexidigital_> [Wiebel] ::  root is strongly discouraged... you can EASILY break your system
[02:33] <narfmaster> hehe RTFM
[02:33] <Hexidigital_> [Wiebel] ::  it may not have anything to do with your problem though.... this time
[02:33] <[Wiebel] > Hexidigital_: I think I have clue enough not to break things
[02:34] <cyber> Ok, so I'll try to be more concrete: I have a printer on a network server and it will print the CUPS test page fine, if I order it to print via the html-interface
[02:34] <cyber> however, trying to print on a client does not work (page is not printed - different error messages)
[02:34] <frogzoo> cyber: which printer, & how long ago did you install the printer driver?
[02:35] <[Wiebel] > hm
[02:35] <cyber> frogzoo: the printer is a brother dcp7025 and I installed the driver some months ago - it did work fine then...
[02:35] <[Wiebel] > nm-applet is not doing dhcp anymore
[02:36] <cyber> It is found by all clients - they just do not print on it, and I can't find anything helpful in the logs...
[02:36] <stefg> cyber: any misconfigured firewall on the server?
[02:37] <cyber> no, no firewall
[02:37] <cyber> besides - that would also prevent me from even "seeing" the printers, wouldn't it?
[02:38] <narfmaster> doesn't no firewall = no incoming policies?
[02:38] <cyber> (i.e. - the printers appear in the printing dialogs of local programs and also in the Printer Settings dialog)
[02:38] <frogzoo> need I do anything special to get nagios to allow me to view hosts/services?
[02:38] <syed1994> hello
[02:38] <syed1994> I need help with ubuntu
[02:38] <stefg> !ask
[02:38] <cyber> narfmaster: No firewall = everthing is allowed through
[02:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:38] <frogzoo> cyber: uninstall the printer & reinstall - there was a problem with cups fixed in the repos a few weeks ago
[02:39] <narfmaster> i always say: when in doubt, install a firewall
[02:39] <frogzoo> cyber: the problem resulted in printers just spitting blank pages - sounds like your problem
[02:39] <cyber> frogzoo: perhaps I should clarify: The server is a gentoo server and seems to work fine. I'm having problems with the clients. And there is not even a blank page coming out of it
[02:40] <Enverex> Does anyone have any experience with packaging here? I'm having some issues but don't know the best channel for it
[02:40] <syed1994> Is there a Linksys Driver for Ubuntu Model:WUSB11
[02:40] <cyber> firefox does not even give an error message - just nothing
[02:41] <helpmeee> I cant seem to get shareaza to connect in wine.. is there something im missing?
[02:41] <Raito> What is oggenc? how does it work? I think I found a script for it here 'http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44076&highlight=oggenc', but it doesn't happen when I use it on an mp3. Am I missing something?
[02:41] <narfmaster> helpmeee, which version of Wine?
[02:42] <helpmeee> narfmaster: 0.9.17
[02:42] <frogzoo> !appdb > helpmeee
[02:42] <RJporra> Does any one know about this error ? Buffer I/O error on device dm-0 :Logical Block XXXXX ( a number that i dont remenber )
[02:42] <RJporra> ata2 translated ata stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0X3/11104
[02:42] <narfmaster> i would have thought shareaza would work no problem
[02:42] <cyber> Ah... nevermind. The problem seemed to just go away... without any intervention on my side.
[02:42] <helpmeee> frogzoo: ive looked there and I only found one page to help me
[02:43] <RJporra> Does any one know about this error ? Buffer I/O error on device dm-0 :Logical Block XXXXX ( a number that i dont remenber )
[02:43] <RJporra> Buffer I/O error on device dm-0 :Logical Block XXXXX ( a number that i dont remenber )
[02:43] <RJporra> ata2 translated ata stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0X3/11104
[02:43] <RJporra> occured on installation of ubuntu
[02:43] <frogzoo> helpmeee: for wine support, try #winehq
[02:43] <helpmeee> narfmaster: do you think it could be my router?.. it will query the urls in shareaza but I dont know if it would go through
[02:44] <narfmaster> helpmeee, it could be - trying running shareaza from a console
[02:44] <stefg> syed1994: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:45] <helpmeee> narfmaster:  I loaded it through there and see a bunch of lines in the terminal window
[02:46] <james296_> can someone here help me with having Ubuntu recognizeONLY my NVIDIA Geforce FX 5500 graphics card instead of the integrated card that came with my Dell Dimension 2400?
[02:46] <helpmeee> narfmaster: it seems to want to get connected but I dont know if those urls are being blocked or something or it's just an issue with wine im not sure
[02:46] <frogzoo> james296_: can you disable on board vid through the bios?
[02:46] <apokryphos> james296_: that's a bios setting
[02:47] <james296_> because I cant enable hardware acceleration because of the integrated card...
[02:47] <gnomefreak> james296_: disable teh onboard card in bios
[02:47] <gnomefreak> s/teh/the
[02:47] <james296_> I dont think so I can just switch from the integrated card or my current card
[02:48] <apokryphos> james296_: disable the integrated in your bios settings
[02:48] <james296_> how do I do that?
[02:49] <apokryphos> james296_: reboot your computer, go into bios, and have a look around
[02:49] <james296_> ok
[02:49] <james296_> Im still gettin updates for this yet so its gonna have to wait right now lol
[02:50] <helpmeee> how can i gain access to my router? I dont know how to find it's ip
[02:50] <narfmaster> helpmeee, probably 192.168.0.1 or something like that
[02:51] <jumbers> How do I eject a CD tray via Terminal?
[02:51] <narfmaster> jumbers, eject -r
[02:51] <brotakul> i want to emulate cs 1.6 with wine but when i run hl.exe half-life starts, it doesn't automaticaly switc to counter strike mod. how can i do that manualy?
[02:51] <pawan> hi
[02:51] <Softly`> unsure
[02:51] <nomin> helpmeee: ifconfig
[02:51] <jumbers> Thanks
[02:51] <james296_> I also noticed the ONLY way for me to get this running on my computer is to insert the CD and run it under safe graphics mode because if I try to just select run Ubuntu or whatever, it comes up with a blue screen that says no screens found
[02:51] <pawan> not able to install ubuntu
[02:51] <frogzoo> !appdb > brotakul
[02:51] <jumbers> I'm trying to scare my dad :)
[02:52] <james296_> why does that happen to me?
[02:52] <helpmeee> nomin: I been there before but didnt know whitch ip it would be in there
[02:52] <fury|Smoke> hello
[02:52] <pawan> how to make partition
[02:53] <fury|Smoke> anybody tell me how to install q3 point on 64 bit 6.06
[02:53] <narfmaster> nomin, ifconfig won't necessarily tell you the router's ip
[02:53] <jumbers> Will eject also make it go back in?
[02:53] <nomin> helpmeee: it's inet address, only the last number is different, but the first 3 should be to the router.
[02:53] <nomin> the last number is what the router gives to your computer
[02:54] <narfmaster> jumbers, that's eject -t
[02:54] <user-land> hello, who knows someone who compiles applications for Ubuntu ?
[02:54] <user-land> http://wiki.videolan.org/index.php/Common_Problems#AMR
[02:54] <jumbers> Thanks :)
[02:54] <helpmeee> nomin: yeah your rite :) i'll have to remember that.. narfmaster got it rite except the last number <3 thanks for your help
[02:54] <pawan> how to recover partitions made by ubuntu
[02:54] <ed_> can anyone help me with a maintenance question? i would like very much to repackage vim-gnome, as vim7.0, but i dont know how the vim-gnome package was orginally built. could someone tell me where/how i can find the build environment/scripts?
[02:54] <james296_> so is someone gonna help me or not lol
[02:54] <helpmeee> narfmaster: you were rite except the last number thanks <3 it's been awhile since I needed to go in there lol
[02:54] <_atomic> Hi
[02:54] <StAfZe6> yo
[02:55] <narfmaster> !info debian-reference
[02:55] <ubotu> debian-reference: metapackage to install (all) translations of Debian Reference. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.09-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[02:57] <gnubien> hi, live ubuntu dapper drake wont boot with error msg: some lib failed the md5 checksum test; dead cd or fixable when ubuntu starts dhcp?
[02:58] <stefg> gnubien: dead cd, who knows what else is broken
[02:58] <narfmaster> failed md5 cannot be a good sign
[02:58] <stefg> call it a coaster
[02:59] <gnubien> stefg: yea, first try at bittorrent using multiple stops and starts to d/l the live CD
[02:59] <CyberTea> Hello, anyone knows how to enter monitor setting?
[02:59] <narfmaster> gnubien, make sure the CD verifies after you write it
[03:00] <stefg> !fixres > CyberTea
[03:01] <gnubien> narfmaster: md5sum for downloaded iso and ubuntu.com websites md5sum were equal, that what you mean?
[03:01] <narfmaster> gnubien, no i mean md5sum /dev/cdrom
[03:02] <gnubien> narfmaster: ok, so do a md5sum /dev/cdrom after you burn the iso to cd?
[03:02] <CyberTea> Thank you so much stefg
[03:02] <narfmaster> gnubien, yes just to be sure
[03:02] <maney> got some udev issues since the Dapper upgrade.  The problem is that I can't figure out how to get the blasted thing to set the permissions for ttyS1.  maybe there's documentation for this that's hiding where i don't see it?  While looking for this, I notice that for no sane reason it's setup several dozen ttyS* devices - folks, I've got TWO serial ports.  I thought udev was supposed to avoid that nonsesne
[03:02] <gnubien> narfmaster: any idea what went wrong? i'm hesitant about using bittorent again to d/l an iso
[03:03] <narfmaster> gnubien, if the md5sum is good for the iso then bittorrent worked fine
[03:04] <pawan> recover ubuntu partitions
[03:04] <narfmaster> wow, two serial ports?
[03:04] <stefg> gnubien: if the md5 check went well, you don't need to download again.. just burn a new medium (slower than last time, heh!)
[03:04] <Enverex> pawan, Was that a question, a statement or just a random outburst?
[03:04] <gnubien> narfmaster: ok, that test passed; then why the md5sum error for the lib on the cd?
[03:05] <pawan> i have lost some partition
[03:05] <pawan> so i want to recover
[03:05] <narfmaster> gnubien, it may be nothing or it may be a bad configuration
[03:05] <gnubien> stefg: ok, burn it slow will be my next attempt ;)
[03:05] <lwolf> re
[03:05] <lwolf> heu.. bye
[03:05] <gnubien> narfmaster: i burnt it fast, will try a slower burn this time
[03:05] <stefg> pawan: define 'lost'... not mounted or screwed partition table?
[03:06] <narfmaster> gnubien, you could try that
[03:06] <gnubien> narfmaster: will do, any other tips?
[03:06] <tuxtux> ciao
[03:06] <pawan> lost
[03:06] <stefg> !info testdisk
[03:06] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[03:06] <pawan> unidentified
[03:06] <gnubien> stefg: thanks
[03:07] <stefg> pawan: what does sudo fdisk -l tell you?
[03:07] <gnubien> narfmaster: thanks
[03:07] <tuxtux> i have install ati-driver-8.26, but fglrx not run, only vesa
[03:07] <narfmaster> gnubien, no problem
[03:07] <pawan> when i try to recover using partition magic
[03:08] <pawan> it say bad partition
[03:08] <stefg> pawan: what does sudo fdisk -l tell you?
[03:08] <stefg> i wouldn't care what partion magic does or says
[03:09] <anemiat1> I am getting this bug on the centrino latop what do I do http://paulstamatiou.com/2006/05/13/boot-camp-bug/
[03:09] <ucordes> can anyone tell me how i prevent my compiz from autostarting so i can select it from the session list on login manually? i think i have a script installed which makes it autorun. but i don't know how i can get rid of it n'either where to find it
[03:09] <lecaros> hi guys, can I run apache and apache2 together?
[03:09] <pawan> i cannot start ubuntu
[03:09] <stefg> ucordes: #ubunt-xgl
[03:09] <stefg> ucordes: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:10] <ucordes> stefg: thanks
[03:10] <lecaros> pawan, what that means exactly?
[03:10] <boying> hi
[03:10] <pawan> not able to install ubuntu
[03:11] <lotwook> Hello.. I am having trouble getting dual monitors to work.
[03:11] <lecaros> pawan, please be more specific
[03:11] <stefg> pawan: which is pretty much a consequence of a broken partition table
[03:11] <matyadabyte> hi does anyone know how to isntall the network manager?
[03:11] <lecaros> hummm partition magic...
[03:12] <stefg> !xinerama
[03:12] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo
[03:12] <lecaros> pawan, try to create partition table again, using gparted of course :)
[03:13] <stefg> That can be fatal... first get a clear image of what's broken
[03:13] <narfmaster> matyadabyte, AFAIK you just apt-get network-manager-gnome
[03:13] <tuxtux> reboot
[03:13] <matyadabyte> thanks
[03:13] <matyadabyte> and how do i run it?
[03:14] <narfmaster> matyadabyte, when you plug in your hardware it should pop up and ask how to configure it
[03:14] <dharma> hi I was wondering if anybody could help me with sth..
[03:14] <james296> I just looked, and theres no way for me to disable the onboard graphics card in the BIOS settings, it just says Onboard or Auto
[03:14] <narfmaster> matyadabyte, or you may have an icon in the notification area
[03:14] <james296> how can I complketely disable it?
[03:15] <narfmaster> james296, why the BIOS?
[03:15] <stefg> james296: type lspci in terminal and paste the result to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:16] <dmsantam> james296, make it auto
[03:16] <dmsantam> james296, that means it will detect an external card (in theory)
[03:16] <matyadabyte> ok
[03:16] <matyadabyte> thanks
[03:16] <james296> becayse for Ubuntu I HAVE to choose safe graphics mode so I can run Ubuntu, if I just select Run Ubuntu or whatever, the screen turns into a big blue screen that says No Screens Found...
[03:17] <narfmaster> james296, sounds like you may need vga=791 or something like that in your kernel line in grub
[03:18] <stefg> james296: that's because the hardware recognition gets confused... you have to tell the Xserver manually which card to use. But first you need precise information about the hardware-configuration
[03:19] <james296> ok, so how do I fix that then?
[03:19] <dharma> I have the problem discribed here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1287119#post1287119, I would be grateful if sb has any idea that could help
[03:19] <Priest-of-Psi> is there a way to stop apt-get dist-upgrade from downloading and installing a new kernel?
[03:20] <james296> well?
[03:20] <stefg> james296: i need to look at the output of 'lspci' and 'dmesg' to answer that. Paste this to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[03:20] <pawan> how to recover lost partition
[03:21] <james296> I already pasted the output of Ispci
[03:21] <james296> under James
[03:21] <stefg> pawan: paste the output of sudo fdisk -l to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:22] <stefg> james296: you got a link... post it in here
[03:23] <pawan> how to run sudo fdisk 1
[03:23] <stefg> ok, found it
[03:23] <james296> ok
[03:23] <stefg> james296: is the bios set to auto or or internal right now?
[03:23] <james296> auto
[03:23] <CarlFK> pawan: apps, accessories, terminal - and it is -l (as in List) not 1
[03:23] <fuoco> while 'Software Updates' is running, can I install new apps ?
[03:23] <user-land> is there a packager here ?
[03:24] <CarlFK> fuoco: no
[03:24] <dngldoof> how do I get read and write privileges in Nautilus?
[03:24] <pawan> but currently i am running xp
[03:24] <TanoGus> Hello! I have a question. I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 and when I installed it as the only one O.S. in my hard disk, it took all the space, partitioning automatically... Now I want to resize Ubuntu partitions to have free space in my harddisk, but I don't want to reinstall everything. Is it safe to do this? What do you recommend?
[03:24] <codecaine> dngldoof I assume you chmod the folders you want that user to have preledges
[03:25] <stefg> james296: i need dmesg as well
[03:25] <narfmaster> TanoGus, you can easily resize with gparted
[03:25] <james296> ok hold on
[03:25] <dngldoof> codecaine: ok. can you give me an example how to use chmod?
[03:25] <dmsantam> TanoGus, use gparted, on a live cd
[03:25] <CarlFK> pawan: boot the ubuntu liive CD
[03:25] <stefg> ok, got it
[03:26] <dmsantam> TanoGus, search for "gparted live" on google
[03:26] <pawan> ok
[03:26] <pawan> then
[03:26] <james296> ok lol
[03:26] <codecaine> sudo chmod 777 file
[03:26] <TanoGus> narfmaster: is it safe if I boot with Ubuntu LiveCD and use gparted to resize partition? Now I'm using only 5% of partition space ... I want to resize current "/" partition to 50% of its size
[03:26] <TanoGus> dmsantam: ok! Thanks!
[03:26] <fortran01> dngldoof, chmod 777 file_name
[03:26] <dmsantam> TanoGus, you're welcome :)
[03:26] <narfmaster> TanoGus, you should be okay with that
[03:27] <TanoGus> narfmaster: thanks again! ;-) What a good community here ;-)
[03:27] <a2xm> hi all, I've problem with my GRUB. Can I just reinstall ubuntu??
[03:27] <dngldoof> codecaine: hmm. Didn't solve the problem..
[03:27] <codecaine> sudo chmod -R 777 folder
[03:27] <codecaine> read write excutes the sub folders too
[03:27] <narfmaster> a2xm, you can reinstall but it might not solve your problem
[03:28] <CarlFK> does the dapper LiveCD/install have an IRC client?
[03:28] <narfmaster> CarlFK, it should have gaim
[03:29] <CarlFK> narfmaster: that's right.  hmm... wish it was easier to get from there to here (this channel)
[03:29] <dngldoof> codecaine: ok. I'll try again
[03:29] <a2xm> narfmaster, hmm... last time I was trying partition magic and now my grub got error 17
[03:29] <james296> hey, be right back I need to go somewhere real quick but Im gonna stay online
[03:29] <james296> hopefully youll be able to solve my problem
[03:29] <narfmaster> a2xm, i wouldn't use partition magic
[03:29] <stefg> james296: do have monitors connected to both connectors?
[03:29] <james296> no I only have one montor...
[03:29] <narfmaster> a2xm, gparted can do all kinds of partition things
[03:29] <james296> but brb I'll be back in a bit
[03:30] <james296> Im gonna stay online though
[03:30] <syed1994> Does anyone know how to install a wireless driver from a CD-ROM which is ment for windows?
[03:30] <dngldoof> codecaine: Cool, now it's listing all the folder it's accessing! :D
[03:30] <a2xm> narfmaster, well, it's too late now.. so do you have suggestion for me
[03:30] <narfmaster> a2xm, backup whatever data you need
[03:30] <nathan> syed1994, apt-get install ndiswrapper
[03:30] <dngldoof> codecaine: but still not working..
[03:30] <Brut3_F0rc3> alguem ai fala portugues ?
[03:30] <a2xm> narfmaster, i've try reinstalling grub. but it doesnt help
[03:31] <bonsai> !pg
[03:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about pg - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:31] <syed1994> but does it work if my CD is meant for windows?
[03:31] <narfmaster> !pt
[03:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:31] <a2xm> narfmaster, all of my data are in /home
[03:31] <bonsai> obrigada!
[03:31] <narfmaster> a2xm, you may need something like Norton Ghost to help you now
[03:32] <nathan> syed1994, apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[03:32] <nathan> syed1994, yes
[03:32] <nathan> syed1994, well, might... most work :)
[03:32] <narfmaster> a2xm, you could possibly boot the live CD and then mount the hard drive and make backups from there
[03:32] <syed1994> ok
[03:33] <a2xm> narfmaster, i'm using live CD now
[03:33] <a2xm> narfmaster, what are you trying to do here?
[03:33] <narfmaster> a2xm, if you need to fix your partitions you may need to destroy a lot of your data to do so
[03:33] <ardchoille> What is the cli command to see if a user account is locked?
[03:35] <a2xm> narfmaster, AFAIK GRUB error 17 is the partition is there but the has the wrong file system
[03:35] <narfmaster> ardchoille, passwd -S
[03:35] <Brut3_F0rc3> anybody work in ubuntu company ?
[03:35] <GlassCasket> What's the difference between the CD and the DVD?
[03:36] <narfmaster> GlassCasket, the DVD has all of main and all the installers
[03:36] <Arnald> how do you set screen resolution with the live CD installer?
[03:36] <GlassCasket> narfmaster: What do you mean by all the mains?
[03:37] <GlassCasket> narfmaster: All the respotories?
[03:37] <XiXaQ> hehe, Maxtor DiamondMax 10 V300F0 doesn't work with Silicon Image S-ATA controller. It does work with the other onboard controller though... The point is, Windows doesn't understand the disk. Ubuntu does :)
[03:37] <narfmaster> GlassCasket, everything in the "main" repository
[03:37] <samberstein> Hello.  I have several sound cards.  Can I assign a /dev/dspN to each one (N is a digit)?  Since at every reboot each gets a "random" N?
[03:37] <darkowl> How can I sell all programs that are installed on my ubuntu ?
[03:37] <darkowl> *see
[03:37] <GlassCasket> narfmaster: Thank you.
[03:37] <Noggin> darkowl: dpkg -l
[03:37] <narfmaster> Arnald, go to System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[03:38] <ardchoille> narfmaster: I am assuming the output "user L" means it is locked?
[03:38] <darkowl> tnx
[03:38] <narfmaster> ardchoille, yes
[03:38] <Arnald> narfmaster: max 1024x768 - I want 1400x1050
[03:38] <ardchoille> narfmaster: Thank you :)
[03:38] <narfmaster> Arnald, you may need to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that :p
[03:38] <Arnald> narfmaster: the regular installer prompts you, but I wasn't asked as far as I can remember
[03:39] <hoehaver> does anyone know of a video converter that converts from AVI to MPEG
[03:39] <hoehaver> i have transcode but it is entirly to hard for me
[03:39] <hoehaver> its....so complicated
[03:39] <samberstein> hoehaver: try mencoder
[03:39] <samberstein> hoehaver: or vlc ?
[03:40] <hoehaver> is it in synaptic?
[03:40] <samberstein> hoehaver: sure
[03:40] <hoehaver> aight
[03:40] <GlassCasket> narfmaster: So would it be better to install it with the DVD or CD?
[03:40] <interfear> can we write to ntfs paritions with 6.06?
[03:40] <samberstein> Anyone knows how to assign DSP numbers to soundcards??
[03:40] <narfmaster> GlassCasket, yes
[03:40] <dmsantam> Intacto, not by default
[03:40] <narfmaster> GlassCasket, err DVD
[03:41] <GlassCasket> narfmaster: OH ok, thanks.
[03:41] <Priest-of-Psi> anyone got xgl working?
[03:41] <Priest-of-Psi> with ATI?
[03:41] <dmsantam> Intacto, but its easy to get working
[03:41] <interfear> dmsantam: well i want to make a dump parition to store music/video  that i can share between linux and windows, what would you make the filesystem for a 150gb parition?
[03:41] <ardchoille> narfmaster: So usermod -L and passwd -l do the same thing?
[03:41] <GlassCasket> interfear: I think you would need to use FAT32 if you want both Linux and XP to write
[03:42] <dmsantam> interfear, you could use fat32
[03:42] <interfear> yeh..
[03:42] <dmsantam> interfear, but ntfs will also work. see here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[03:42] <narfmaster> ardchoille, i would assume so :/
[03:42] <narfmaster> ardchoille, i have no idea though
[03:43] <GlassCasket> dmsantam: Warning : ntfs-3g is still in beta. You should not use it on production machines
[03:43] <interfear> dmsantam: awesome thank you
[03:43] <stefg> interfear: http://www.fs-driver.org/ could be of interest
[03:43] <GlassCasket> Therefor, I wouldn't recommend anyone using it.
[03:43] <stabby-> whos installing NTFS-3G
[03:43] <interfear> Warning : ntfs-3g is still in beta. You should not use it on production machines
[03:43] <interfear> That's said, it's quite stable and totaly safe. See my test here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthre...=217009&page=4
[03:43] <dmsantam> GlassCasket, yes, it is in beta. but you missed the next line (which interfear  just pasted :) )
[03:43] <interfear> ehh. i'll use it, i only launch nasa rockets on monday's :)
[03:43] <stabby-> has anyone get NTFS-3G work in ubuntu??
[03:43] <dmsantam> interfear, lol
[03:43] <dmsantam> stabby-, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[03:44] <GlassCasket> Haha, guess I did. It was the read text that caught my attention. ;)
[03:44] <stabby-> OMG YAY :>
[03:44] <GaryFl> hello
[03:44] <GlassCasket> What makes the alternate CD installer for older computers?
[03:44] <narfmaster> GlassCasket, the lower memory requirement
[03:45] <hoehaver> in synaptic you always see (dummy package)
[03:45] <hoehaver> what is that?
[03:45] <interfear> ubuntu is so dam cool, i love it
[03:45] <GaryFl> I'm having trouble getting wifi up and running under Ubuntu. After doing some thorough searching of the web, I can't find anything that helps. Anyone got a few minutes to give me a hand?
[03:45] <interfear> GaryFl: whats the prob
[03:45] <vinayy> interfear, have a look at http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[03:45] <GlassCasket> narfmaster: Is there anything it dosen't install? And once you're done, it's the same as the DVD?
[03:45] <interfear> vinayy: will do thatnks
[03:45] <dmsantam> GaryFl, we've all got a few minutes, or we wouldn't be here :)
[03:45] <vinayy> you can get ext2/3 integrated with shell in windows
[03:46] <interfear> nod
[03:46] <narfmaster> GlassCasket, except that the DVD is in your sources.list and can be used for getting main packages you may need
[03:46] <interfear> GaryFl: go ahead type away we will all do our best to help
[03:46] <GlassCasket> narfmaster: Ok thanks, I'll be downloading it now. :)
[03:46] <hoehaver> WHAT is a dummy package?
[03:46] <GaryFl> interfear: "ndiswrapper -l", shows the driver is present and the hardware is present but nothing is appearing under networking
[03:47] <dmsantam> hoehaver, it points to another package
[03:47] <interfear> hrm.. ndiswrapper
[03:47] <hoehaver> thats it
[03:47] <interfear> whats the chipset of the card?
[03:47] <pawan> how to access broadband in ubuntu
[03:47] <dmsantam> hoehaver, like linux-686 package is a dummy. it always points to the latest kernel for 686
[03:47] <GlassCasket> GaryFl: Did you modprobe ndiswrapper?
[03:47] <GaryFl> the underlying chipset is, I believe, the Marvel w8300 chipset
[03:47] <GaryFl> yes, I did do "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[03:47] <pawan> how to recover lost partition
[03:47] <hoehaver> like in a phone book you look up irs and it says " look  for treasury"
[03:48] <interfear> after you installed it did you restart the network?
[03:48] <Priest-of-Psi> any xgl users here?
[03:48] <pawan> adsl in ubuntu
[03:48] <interfear> Priest-of-Psi: i use it
[03:48] <Priest-of-Psi> interfear: ati?
[03:48] <GaryFl> I've restarted the machine... is there something else I have to do to restart the network?
[03:48] <interfear> Priest-of-Psi: no i dont. sorry
[03:48] <Priest-of-Psi> I just get a blank X screen with a round mouse cursor
[03:48] <Priest-of-Psi> and I dunno why
[03:48] <pawan> broadband
[03:49] <pawan> in ubuntu
[03:49] <pawan> and recovering of lost partition
[03:49] <interfear> GaryFl: if you've restarted i believe it should have restarted the network as well, not sure if you need to add something to load any ndiswrapper modules during boot though. honestly gary i dont know much about ndiswrapper so i dont wanna give you any wrong info.
[03:49] <pawan> what is sudo command
[03:49] <Timmy|GDS> is there a ubuntu package for flash in the rep?
[03:49] <interfear> but im almost positive there needs to be some type of module or something loaded for ndiswrapper
[03:49] <interfear> anyone here help Gary?
[03:49] <bonsai> !sudo
[03:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:49] <amarokker> can someone explain to me how i can get ruby-on-rails to work on linux? or is it a combination of ruby packages and a methodology like ajax?
[03:50] <narfmaster> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[03:50] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:50] <Timmy|GDS> thnx
[03:50] <Timmy|GDS> can you give me the apt command for it?
[03:50] <hoehaver> is mencoder a graphical interface?
[03:50] <narfmaster> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:50] <GaryFl> interfear: fair enough. If someone else knows, that would be cool
[03:51] <Timmy|GDS> thanks narf
[03:51] <narfmaster> hoehaver, no
[03:51] <nomin> !mythtv
[03:51] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[03:51] <hoehaver> damn...so it will prbably be as hard as transcode
[03:51] <hoehaver> probably*
[03:51] <SixtyWatt> Is the DWL-G122 USB adapter well supported now in Ubuntu with the serialmonkey drivers?
[03:51] <narfmaster> hoehaver, possibly a lot harder
[03:51] <interfear> ubotu: i guess u need a tv card?
[03:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about i guess u need a tv card? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:51] <hoehaver> lol...damn
[03:52] <Timmy|GDS> peace all
[03:52] <hoehaver> are there any graphical viedo encoders?
[03:52] <bonsai> hoehaver what exactly do you want to do?
[03:52] <pawan> how to access broadband in ububut
[03:52] <pawan> ubuntu
[03:52] <hoehaver> i have AVI.......home movies and my dvd player will only play mpeg
[03:53] <hoehaver> i need to convert them
[03:53] <narfmaster> hoehaver, http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=63
[03:53] <bonsai> for avi to dvd try DeVeDe
[03:54] <hoehaver> no not to DVD
[03:54] <hoehaver> i dont have a dvd burner
[03:54] <hoehaver> i need to make them mpeg
[03:54] <bonsai> k
[03:54] <hoehaver> but thanks
[03:54] <Timmy|GDS> can i have that apt command again please? for flash
[03:54] <narfmaster> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:54] <Timmy|GDS> lol, thanks
[03:54] <hoehaver> lol, just scrool up
[03:54] <narfmaster> no problem
[03:54] <hoehaver> oo you just logged back in
[03:55] <vertozia999> hey people
[03:55] <manggor> hi
[03:55] <interfear> flash.. whats what?
[03:55] <vertozia999> i m here to ask you something
[03:55] <interfear> err
[03:55] <interfear> 64
[03:55] <Timmy|GDS> shoot
[03:55] <manggor> someone willng to help an ubuntu newbie?
[03:55] <GaryFl> ok, if no-one can help directly with knowledge of ndiswrapper, I might be able to get it myself if anyone knows a bit about how wireless works in general in linux. If you had a supported card, would the entry for wlan0 appear automatically or is there a step that you need to go through for it to appear?
[03:55] <Timmy|GDS> everyone here is nice
[03:55] <interfear> sure manggor
[03:55] <a2xm> narfmaster, are you sure you don't have any other idea to fix my GRUB?
[03:56] <manggor> well i'm trying to install ubuntu desktop on my laptop, but the installation process freezes at partitioning phase...
[03:56] <Timmy|GDS> timmy@Dimension:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:56] <Timmy|GDS> Password:
[03:56] <Timmy|GDS> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:56] <Timmy|GDS> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:56] <Timmy|GDS> timmy@Dimension:~$
[03:56] <interfear> GaryFl: post your question in many different linux channels at once, thats what i do when i really need help
[03:56] <hoehaver> i downloaded the document file for emncoder aswell
[03:56] <stefg> !wifi
[03:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:56] <hoehaver> how to i access it
[03:56] <hoehaver> or..find it, ya knw
[03:56] <manggor> so, what is a difference between the desktop and server version?
[03:56] <narfmaster> a2xm, sorry but i don't know a way to fix partitions other than to delete and create them again
[03:56] <Timmy|GDS> manggor, you cant install then. i reccomend the kubuntu installer
[03:56] <Timmy|GDS> i had that prob this morning
[03:56] <manggor> and is there a console based installer?
[03:56] <GaryFl> interfear: okay. What other channels are there on freenode that might be of help?
[03:56] <Timmy|GDS> but i made a swap part then did ubuntu
[03:56] <bonsai> hoehaver maybe this helps? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105781&
[03:57] <interfear> is there a non-free x64 flash plugin?
[03:57] <a2xm> narfmaster, I think my partitions are still there. just the GRUB is error?
[03:57] <Foobal> no (a really working one)
[03:57] <interfear> GaryFl: on freenode I dont know, but i know on efnet there is #ubuntu, #linuxhelp, #linux
[03:57] <pawan> can sudo be run from live cd
[03:57] <Timmy|GDS> ya
[03:58] <manggor> Timmy|GDS: is kubuntu installer included on desktop version?
[03:58] <GaryFl> cool, thanks
[03:58] <Timmy|GDS> yes
[03:58] <interfear> GaryFl: should be linuxhelp and linux on freenode, yes there is
[03:58] <hoehaver> when you download a doc file for a package you installed. where is it stored at?
[03:58] <Timmy|GDS> download and burn image
[03:58] <hoehaver> the document file i mean
[03:58] <pawan> can broadband be accesed through live cd
[03:58] <Timmy|GDS> or get GParted and make a swap partition
[03:58] <narfmaster> a2xm, all i know is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:58] <manggor> oh, you mean kubuntu...?
[03:58] <Timmy|GDS> ye
[03:58] <syed1994> how to install ubuntu alongside windows?
[03:58] <a2xm> anyone know how to fix GRUB error 17 pls?
[03:58] <vertozia999> just boot it
[03:58] <a2xm> narfmaster, yes, i've try that
[03:58] <vertozia999> then partition your pc
[03:58] <interfear> syed1994: first install windows, then install ubuntu and it will add windows to the boot loader
[03:59] <bonsai> hoehaver you mean a download via firefox?
[03:59] <Timmy|GDS> dual boot problems, who needs help
[03:59] <vertozia999> use mandrake
[03:59] <vertozia999> to partition
[03:59] <Timmy|GDS> NO
[03:59] <syed1994> ok trying that out
[03:59] <vertozia999> then put ur ubuntu in
[03:59] <vertozia999> and install
[03:59] <vertozia999> mandrake s amazing in partitioning
[03:59] <nuzzy_> d/l the gparted live cd to partition...it works great
[03:59] <vertozia999> yeah that too
[03:59] <Timmy|GDS> i know, i love it
[03:59] <manggor> what is a proper command to make ext3 partition for a 10GB sized partition?
[03:59] <Timmy|GDS> thank you distrowatch
[04:00] <hoehaver> bonsai no im synaptic
[04:00] <Timmy|GDS> graphical manggor?
[04:00] <hoehaver> you can download documents files to some programs you install using synaptic
[04:00] <interfear> syed1994: my system is set up as the follwoing for a windows/ubuntu workstation.  I first installed windowsxp onto a 50gb partition, then i installed ubuntu on a 30gb parition, and the rest of the space i made one big 150gb parition to store files like music/movies so if anything happened to ubuntu or windows, those files will be safe
[04:00] <Timmy|GDS> or a terminal
[04:00] <manggor> command line
[04:00] <Timmy|GDS> hmm
[04:00] <Timmy|GDS> well
[04:00] <Timmy|GDS> google rules
[04:00] <hoehaver> i need to find the one for mencoder so i can find out how to use this thing
[04:00] <pawan> adsl in ubuntu
[04:00] <nathan> manggor, mkfs -j
[04:01] <interfear> syed1994: i also kept about 30gb of nothing incase i wanna install something else later *cough* osx86 *shh*
[04:01] <Timmy|GDS> lol
[04:01] <interfear> lol
[04:01] <Timmy|GDS> good choice
[04:01] <manggor> nathan: isn't that joilet?
[04:01] <Timmy|GDS> osx86 is the shiznopples
[04:01] <syed1994> .
[04:01] <interfear> haven't tried it.. still working on the 4.3gb torrent dvd.. think its like 3%
[04:01] <interfear> lol
[04:01] <bonsai> hoehaver, hmm, it might be in /us/lib/program_you_installed
[04:01] <james296> hey Stef have ya found out my problem yet?
[04:02] <smax> Hi
[04:02] <manggor> ok, i'll google it...
[04:02] <manggor> cheers.
[04:02] <interfear> hoehaver: try "man mencoder"
[04:02] <Timmy|GDS> cheers.
[04:02] <Amadeus> lu
[04:02] <nathan> manggor, mke2fs -j sorry
[04:02] <Vertozia> yeah can i ask something now?
[04:02] <pawan> access adsl in ubuntu
[04:02] <vinayy> hey pawan
[04:02] <hoehaver> man mencoder did it
[04:02] <hoehaver> thanks :)
[04:02] <Vertozia> how can i get my school to use edubuntu
[04:02] <vinayy> where are you? in bangalore?
[04:02] <james296> Stef??
[04:02] <Vertozia> Canada
[04:02] <Vertozia> Toronto
[04:02] <manggor> nathan: mke2fs or mke3fs?
[04:03] <interfear> hoehaver: whenever you install an application there is almost always a "manpage" for it.. just type "man <command>"
[04:03] <interfear> man ls, man cp, man gnome-session etc\
[04:03] <pawan> no in nagpur
[04:03] <pawan> why
[04:03] <smax> My sudo doesn't work now how to fix it. I've change my config
[04:03] <hoehaver> ok, thanks for the tip
[04:03] <nathan> manggor, ext3 = ext2 + journaling
[04:03] <smax> Give me default config of sudo
[04:03] <vinayy> oh.. ok. seems like you have airtel connection is it?
[04:03] <pawan> no] 
[04:03] <pawan> bsnl dataone
[04:03] <manggor> natha: ok, cheers
[04:04] <Vertozia> how ccan i get my school to use edubintu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[04:04] <Gizida> try a gun
[04:04] <bonsai> lol
[04:04] <nathan> Vertozia, teach your computing teacher how to use it
[04:04] <ardchoille> Vertozia: That wasn't necessary
[04:05] <vinayy> pawan, you have it working in windows right?
[04:05] <Vertozia> i dont have one '<
[04:05] <interfear> Vertozia: maybe if you used some more exclamation marks your school would switch to ubuntu
[04:05] <interfear> ;)
[04:05] <bonsai> lol
[04:06] <smax> GIve me default sudo config whent tring sudo # must be setuid root" How can I fix it
[04:06] <interfear> kind of like the more stickers you put on your civic the faster it goes
[04:06] <interfear> smax: login as root?
[04:06] <pawan> yes
[04:06] <smax> no
[04:06] <pawan> i want to acces in ubuntu
[04:06] <smax> i'm under my user and tring start program with sudo
[04:07] <smax> To be a root
[04:07] <interfear> anyone in here play guitar and hanging out in the offtopic channel?
[04:07] <bbrazil> smax: ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[04:07] <interfear> oh
[04:07] <bonsai> i play guitar but i've never visited the offtopic channel, anything good for guitarists in there? :P
[04:08] <interfear> lol not that i know of, just looking for some advice on a new electric
[04:08] <smax> bbrazil -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 93844 2006-05-17 11:41 /usr/bin/sudo
[04:08] <amarokker> bonsai: you'd find out only once you join there :P
[04:08] <interfear> for someone will.. smalish hands.
[04:08] <bonsai> amarokker, i guess :)
[04:08] <bbrazil> smax: you've messed up your install - what did you do?
[04:08] <hbi> hey people i need help with installing ubuntu to my hd
[04:08] <interfear> hbi: ask and ye shall recieve
[04:09] <smax> bbrazil maybee chown help me
[04:09] <nathan> smax, chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo
[04:09] <bbrazil> smax: yes, chown can fix it, but you need root first to use it
[04:09] <andrewski> did my messages show up above?
[04:09] <bbrazil> smax: reboot in recovery mode
[04:09] <smax> bbrazil I have root console
[04:09] <nathan> smax, single user / recovery mode will do the trick
[04:09] <bbrazil> smax: chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo
[04:10] <pawan> ADSL
[04:10] <pawan> BROADBAND
[04:10] <hbi> trying to manually set up the partition and i set it up with 47gb for windows 10 for ubuntu and a 512 swap..... somethin along those lines yet i keep getting an error when im  trying to resize the hard drive partition
[04:10] <hbi> would doing a defrag help ?
[04:10] <vinayy> connect your machine to the adsl router
[04:10] <bbrazil> hbi: no
[04:10] <interfear> hbi: whats the error, and what are you using to resize?
[04:10] <hbi> just the ubuntu installer
[04:10] <smax> bbrazil thank you
[04:10] <pawan> THEN
[04:11] <vinayy> then configure eth0 on your linux box
[04:11] <interfear> hbi: ok whats the error your getting
[04:11] <pawan> it is connected
[04:11] <smax> chown help me
[04:11] <hbi> urmm hold on
[04:11] <pawan> how
[04:12] <hbi> Error while creating New Partition #1
[04:12] <hbi> Be aware that the failure to apply this operation could affect other operations on the list
[04:12] <smax> I've Install xubuntu-desktop how can I get back my usplash from Ubuntu
[04:13] <hbi> then it goes to normal and shows my hard drive as it was
[04:13] <andrewski> smax: there are a few bugs about launchpad about that.  need me to look them up?
[04:13] <__doc__> Hi, anybody an idea why my keyboard doesn't work in flash games?
[04:14] <interfear> i dont think anyone will be able to answer that doc
[04:14] <smax> andrewski "few bugs"?
[04:14] <andrewski> __doc__: have you tried clicking on the flash thingy first?
[04:14] <interfear> smax: what is xubuntu-desktop?
[04:14] <andrewski> smax: they're old, a few i tracked before dapper came out....
[04:14] <hbi> do you have any idea whats going wrong for my problem interfear?
[04:14] <interfear> hbi: your saying that in order for you to install ubuntu you have to shrink your windows parition correct?
[04:14] <hbi> indeed
[04:14] <interfear> smax: do you mean kubuntu-desktop?
[04:15] <smax> interfear no xubuntu-desktop
[04:15] <interfear> hbi: im guess something is screwing up during the resize of the partition, in which case i dont know how to help you
[04:15] <bonsai> smax: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220363&
[04:15] <interfear> smax: i dunno what that is.. is that like the XFCE window manager or something?
[04:15] <andrewski> interfear: ??
[04:16] <dmsantam> interfear, its the really lite ubuntu if i recall
[04:16] <andrewski> interfear: it's the analogous thing as (k)ubuntu
[04:16] <interfear> smax: all i know is that I installed kubuntu-desktop to have both kde and gnome, and now i get the kubuntu splash screen instead of ubuntu
[04:16] <andrewski> interfear: ...-desktop, but for xfce.
[04:16] <interfear> yeh..
[04:16] <interfear> thought so..
[04:16] <interfear> yeh i have the same problem as i just said..
[04:16] <SheaTara> is us.archive.ubuntu.com working for everyone?
[04:16] <interfear> so.. when u fix it lemme know :)
[04:16] <krism> anybody else having problems connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:16] <krism> SheaTara: haha good timing
[04:16] <Trackilizer> How does one restore the GRUB after re-installing windows?
[04:17] <interfear> Trackilizer: i think its dpkg grub-config or something like that
[04:17] <Trackilizer> I'm unsing a knoppix livecd to write this.
[04:17] <interfear> i forget
[04:17] <SheaTara> krism: well-I know it's not just me then
[04:17] <andrewski> Trackilizer: on the install/live cd, you have a rescue option, one of the choices is to get that back.
[04:17] <andrewski> Trackilizer: oh... you can do it from knoppix.  why aren't you using the ubuntu one? :-P
[04:17] <dmsantam> Trackilizer, ubuntuguide.org
[04:17] <dmsantam> Trackilizer, its in there
[04:17] <SheaTara> krism: it's up (pinging works), but the archive is down..
[04:18] <Trackilizer> I used knopix because the livecd is faster than the ubuntu one.
[04:18] <andrewski> !grub > Trackilizer
[04:18] <andrewski> Trackilizer: heh, fair enough. ;)
[04:18] <interfear> mmm... bacon egg and cheese
[04:18] <goatmale> Hello everyone, how can I found out my hostmask?
[04:18] <krism> SheaTara: yeah :-/ blast too, i'm trying to install some dependencies i need to compile wine to play WoW :)
[04:18] <Trackilizer> So, how do i do it in knopix?
[04:18] <kouwe> how can i sent an wakeuponlan call to another PC ?
[04:18] <Trackilizer> It's not debain based.....
[04:18] <andrewski> Trackilizer: check your PMs
[04:18] <interfear> krism: WoW works under wine?
[04:18] <dmsantam> Trackilizer, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[04:18] <smax> bonsai Thank you for usplash link
[04:18] <interfear> wow. no pun intended
[04:18] <interfear> lol
[04:19] <goatmale> knoppix is debian based
[04:19] <bonsai> smax np
[04:19] <dmsantam> Trackilizer, knoppix is definitely debian based
[04:19] <Trackilizer> andrewski, the PM you sent me is only for debain besed distros
[04:19] <andrewski> dmsantam: ain't that the truth.
[04:19] <Trackilizer> WAIT!!
[04:19] <Trackilizer> Knoppix is debain based right?
[04:19] <goatmale> yup
[04:19] <interfear> how come all the media player for linux look like crap.. i open the same files with windows media player and they look 10x better than with mplayer or vlc
[04:19] <interfear> i dont get it
[04:19] <andrewski> Trackilizer: knoppix is.  and no, those instructions are good for anything.  use the console! :)  ask specific questions if you get stuck.
[04:20] <pawan> adsl
[04:20] <goatmale> try amtrac interfear
[04:20] <krism> interfear: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5109 in most cases, with some effort
[04:20] <pawan> broadband
[04:20] <bonsai> Trackilizer, knoppix debian based yes
[04:20] <interfear> amtrac.. ok
[04:20] <pawan> on livecd
[04:20] <erUSUL> kouwe: there is a program to send the magic packet 'apt-cache search wake on lan'
[04:20] <kouwe> ok
[04:20] <goatmale> You can always wine Windows media or winamp
[04:20] <interfear> krism: hey man, if you wanna feed into your addiction have fun, but I will not help you, I have lost too many friends to WoW
[04:20] <interfear> lol
[04:21] <andrewski> Trackilizer: here's the specific section for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-5dbdd6b5302831ed4335bd0b7387ffcad2543857
[04:21] <krism> interfear: heh
[04:21] <interfear> however if there was some mmprpg for linux i would probably play it
[04:21] <interfear> lol
[04:21] <smax> tuxcommander vich is current version I have 0.5.91 but I get it from forum not from repoz. Vich version is current
[04:21] <andrewski> ok, i'm off for a while...
[04:21] <interfear> all this ubuntu talk has made want to boot into ubuntu
[04:21] <interfear> lol
[04:22] <m4dm4n> hey I'm a total noob and I've got a question, am I in the right place?
[04:22] <andrewski> m4dm4n: yes.  ask away. :)
[04:22] <goatmale> n4d4m4n yes
[04:22] <bonsai> m4dm4n, yes
[04:22] <m4dm4n> wonderful
[04:22] <amarokker> m4dm4n: you couldnt find any place better :)
[04:22] <m4dm4n> I'm coming straight out of windows here into a multiboot setup
[04:22] <interfear> check out my rad ubuntu screenshot
[04:22] <interfear> http://home.comcast.net/~interfear/ss.png
[04:22] <m4dm4n> so I configured a drive to store programs etc
[04:22] <krism> m4dm4n: yes. see also http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=73
[04:23] <m4dm4n> now in windows i can set the registry value of the program files folder
[04:23] <m4dm4n> and I kind of wanted to replicate that functionaly in ubuntu
[04:23] <RedGhost> whats a good programme that allows extracting of .RAR archives  ? ? ? ?
[04:23] <m4dm4n> how would I go about that?
[04:23] <smax> t> whats a good programme that allows extracting of .RAR archives  ? ? ? ?
[04:23] <smax> <
[04:23] <nathan> 'apt-get install rar'
[04:23] <andrewski> !rar > RedGhost
[04:23] <amarokker> RedGhost: unrar ?
[04:23] <bonsai> interfear: i like your panel placements, i leave the bottom of the screen empty too, the mouse never goes there anyhow...
[04:23] <smax> unrar
[04:24] <interfear> bonsai: yeh. i dont like bottom panels
[04:24] <smax> sory
[04:24] <goatmale> sudo apt-get install rar
[04:24] <andrewski> m4dm4n: installed programs inevitably end up in /usr.  what programs do you have that you want to use?
[04:24] <RedGhost> thanks ;D
[04:24] <smax> sudo apt-get install unrar
[04:24] <andrewski> m4dm4n: or do you want installed programs to end up on a separate partition?
[04:24] <goatmale> hey interfear how did you do that?
[04:24] <interfear> goatmale: do what
[04:24] <goatmale> make the pannels all funky
[04:24] <interfear> like change the size and placement and stuff?
[04:25] <interfear> right click on the panel, panel properties
[04:25] <rOss> anyone use cedega to play battlefield 2?
[04:25] <smax> Who used tuxcmd which is current version
[04:25] <interfear> uncheck expand
[04:25] <Ishmael> sorry, how can I choose a refresh upper than 60 Hz with 1024*768 ?
[04:25] <interfear> im gonna boot into ubuntu be back in 30 sec
[04:25] <stefg> !fixres > Ishmael
[04:25] <andrewski> stefg: cheers; i was looking. :)
[04:26] <dmsantam> Ishmael, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <interfear> eh..cant reboot yet still formatting
[04:26] <andrewski> m4dm4n: still around?
[04:26] <interfear> who was asking me about the gnome panels?
[04:26] <goatmale> i got it.
[04:26] <Ishmael> stefg, thanks for your help, but I have already read this document and I can't choose a refresh upper than 60 Hz
[04:26] <andrewski> interfear: goatmale
[04:26] <interfear> cool
[04:26] <Trackilizer> andrewski, the resuce option you talked about is on the ubuntu livecd right?
[04:26] <interfear> i forgot how to install gtk themes
[04:26] <interfear> anyone wanna refresh me
[04:26] <andrewski> Trackilizer: yes, but you don't need it; you can use the console commands i just sent you.
[04:27] <Ishmael> dmsantam, I have already done this reconifguration and it didn't work
[04:27] <andrewski> Ishmael: specific error messages?
[04:27] <pawan> adsl broadband
[04:27] <Trackilizer> andrewski, the problem is i don't know what to type in after root.
[04:27] <pawan> on ubuntu
[04:27] <dmsantam> interfear, apt-get install gnome-themes-extras ?
[04:28] <stefg> Ishmael: then you have to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose at least 'medium' when it comes to specifying your monitor. Restart X when you're don
[04:28] <Trackilizer> I don't know what my "boot partition numbers" are.
[04:28] <pawan> recover lost partition from ubuntu
[04:28] <interfear> dmsantam: nah im saying specific themes from say gnome-look.org
[04:28] <goatmale> can some one help me install sound drivers? my card doesn't work
[04:28] <pawan> sudo command
[04:28] <Ishmael> andrewski, I haven't any error, only I can't choose the refresh which I want
[04:28] <andrewski> Trackilizer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-5dbdd6b5302831ed4335bd0b7387ffcad2543857
[04:28] <dmsantam> interfear, oh, manually in a non apt-get way? ok. i dunno :)
[04:28] <stefg> Trackilizer: that's really sad
[04:28] <bonsai> goatmale what card?
[04:28] <goatmale> er..
[04:28] <andrewski> stefg: ??
[04:28] <interfear> dmsantam: cool man no sweat
[04:29] <goatmale> lspci is the command right?
[04:29] <interfear> i didnt like you anyway
[04:29] <interfear> ;)
[04:29] <dmsantam> ;)
[04:29] <andrewski> Ishmael: you'll need to find out the horizsync and vertsync options for your card.  do you already have those?
[04:29] <stefg> !offtopic
[04:29] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:29] <Trackilizer> Erm.... why the hell is that sad?
[04:29] <interfear> Ishmael: what size monitor do you have? and what brand
[04:29] <goatmale> my driver is Rockwell International Riptide PCI Audio Controller
[04:29] <goatmale> I think.
[04:30] <Ishmael> yeah andrewski and I have an ati radeon 9600 256MB video card
[04:30] <dromedary> Hi I am having issues downloading wine files from the repositories would someone assist me?
[04:30] <andrewski> ok, really gone for now... sorry Ishmael and Trackilizer.
[04:30] <smax> In driver's for monitor you can find refresh
[04:30] <RedGhost> whats the default key shortcut for FireFox ? ? ?
[04:30] <interfear> Ishmael: you will have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put in the proper vertical and horizontel sync
[04:30] <bonsai> goatmale, lspci lists pci devices, does your controller show?
[04:30] <goatmale> dromdary: did you try automatix?
[04:30] <Ishmael> interfear, is a generic CRT monitor 15"
[04:30] <smax> In samsung windows drivers i can find it easy
[04:30] <goatmale> yes  Rockwell International Riptide PCI Aud io Controller
[04:31] <interfear> Ishmael: 15in monitor. search google for the sync rates for the model
[04:31] <Ishmael> interfear I have just done it
[04:31] <interfear> you need those
[04:31] <RedGhost> ah screw it i'll set my own
[04:31] <smax> You don't need searching in google
[04:31] <jpaisneto> hi... how can I install x11 files?? after the download I extract the files. and next?
[04:32] <smax> Ishmael You don't need searching in google
[04:32] <interfear> i have a 19in samsung lcd, 30-81 and 56-75 are my hori/vert
[04:32] <dromedary> goatmale I am an unregistered user.
[04:32] <dromedary> I invite you to #privmsg :P  I'm serious
[04:33] <Ishmael> My problem is when I try to choose a resolution of 1024*768. It's when I can't choose a refresh upper 60Hz. when I have as resolution 800*600 I can choose until 85 Hz refresh
[04:33] <interfear> Ishmael: are you sure your monitor is capable?
[04:33] <stabby-> Does anyone know howto use xvkbd to send alt + left   keystroke
[04:33] <jpaisneto> hi... how can I install x11 files?? after the download I extract the files. and next? do i need to install extra software?
[04:33] <interfear> jpaisneto: what are you talking about
[04:34] <stefg> Ishmael: does your videocard support 1024x768x24 in 75hz at all?
[04:34] <interfear> what x11 files
[04:34] <Ishmael> interfear, I'm really sure because in windows I can and in another distros too
[04:34] <bonsai> goatmale, under Sound Preferences is "enable sound server at startup" checked?
[04:34] <interfear> Ishmael: ok, well you definatley need to find the horizontal and vertical sync rates for your monitor
[04:34] <Ishmael> stefg,  ati radeon 9600 256MB 440 MHz
[04:34] <smax> gtf for monitor yuo can used
[04:35] <Ishmael> interfear, where can i find it?
[04:35] <goatmale> bonsai: I don't have that option
[04:35] <interfear> google "horizontal sync rate samsung 914" or w/e your monitor brand is
[04:35] <fuoco> anyone used kino to transfer video from a camcorder to the computer ?
[04:36] <goatmale> dromdary go to the chat
[04:36] <interfear> ok booting into ubuntu for real this time
[04:36] <smax> ishmael /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 75
[04:36] <bonsai> goatmale, ah you're running dapper, sound is a bit of a science of its own, i'd check the forums to narrow down your problem first...
[04:36] <goatmale> alright, thanks
[04:36] <fredl> anybody here using the ATI fglrx driver?
[04:37] <goatmale> there isn't just an app I can install like ndiswrapper for sound? ;P
[04:37] <fredl> anybody here using the ATI fglrx driver and the X700 Pro card?
[04:37] <smax> Ishmael /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 75
[04:37] <Ishmael> smax, terminal answered this
[04:37] <Ishmael>   # 1024x768 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 60.15 kHz; pclk: 81.80 MHz
[04:37] <Ishmael>   Modeline "1024x768_75.00"  81.80  1024 1080 1192 1360  768 769 772 802  -HSync +Vsync
[04:37] <goatmale> dromedary go the the chat I am waiting
[04:38] <smax> Ishmael put this text in modline of section monitor in xorg.conf
[04:38] <orbin> fredl: no, but what's the issue?
[04:39] <fredl> orbin: the ATI 8.25.18 driver seems to be unstable, it trashes the screen at unpredictable times, and eventually hard hangs the whole system
[04:39] <interfear> how come wine isn't in synaptic
[04:39] <interfear> wtf
[04:39] <Lt-Elmo> hello
[04:39] <smax> Ishmael you know how to edit xorg.conf
[04:39] <stefg> !info wine
[04:39] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[04:39] <Lt-Elmo> Anyone know a good publishing app for ubuntu?
[04:39] <Ishmael> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf smax
[04:39] <dmsantam> Lt-Elmo, define "publishing app"
[04:39] <fredl> orbin: I've been using this card with Breezy without any problems but recently upgraded to Dapper
[04:40] <Lt-Elmo> like printshop?
[04:40] <Ishmael> is it ok smax ?
[04:40] <interfear> Hrm, I have universe checked off
[04:40] <Ishmael> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf smax
[04:40] <Lt-Elmo> cards , banners
[04:40] <bonsai> fredl, have you tried reinstalling the driver?
[04:40] <thomas> hey guys, can somebody tell me how i shut down the computer from a command? i'm leaving the house, and i want to set an alarm that will shut down the computer for me, thanks
[04:40] <smax> Ishmael Yes and modline of what gtf give you put into monitor section. Than restart X
[04:40] <Adam_G> hi... are the archive.ubuntu.org servers down?
[04:41] <dmsantam> thomas, man shutdown
[04:41] <fredl> bonsai - yes I have. This morning somebody also helped me going to the opensource driver but that wouldn't correctly detect my card at all.
[04:41] <Ishmael> smax, but where do I have to write this text?
[04:41] <interfear> Adam_G: i have heard yes
[04:41] <stefg> thomas: man shutdown
[04:41] <Adam_G> I keep timing out while trying to connect to them
[04:41] <Adam_G> ok :(
[04:41] <ZeZu> ati drivers are always unstable
[04:41] <dmsantam> thomas, shutdown -t 30
[04:41] <interfear> ati drivers suck for linux
[04:41] <dmsantam> thomas, that will shut the computer down in 30 seconds
[04:41] <shriphani> guys tell me aood package i can compile from source
[04:41] <thomas> is there a way to do it without a password prompt?
[04:41] <fredl> ZeZu - not true, like I said, the one for Breezy worked like a charm.
[04:41] <thomas> thanks dmsantam
[04:41] <shriphani> it is just for practice
[04:41] <interfear> thomas: sudo
[04:41] <dmsantam> thomas, you're welcome
[04:41] <bonsai> fredl, you searched the web/forums for people with the same problem/card as you?
[04:41] <thomas> but then i'll have to enter a password, but i won't be home to do it
[04:42] <smax> Ishmael is 75hz in 1024X768 is top for your monitor?
[04:42] <isheep> hi, how can i get flash to work in firefox? (normally in windows i just download the plugin and its done, but i have no idea how to do that in linux)
[04:42] <fredl> bonsai: yes, that's the first thing I did. Also searched syslogs and xorg logs for error messages.
[04:42] <interfear> thomas: youll have to add yourself to the sudo'ers list so you dont have to use the password, i dont know how to do that someone here will though
[04:42] <thomas> isheep enable commercial or multiverse in add/remove programs, its in that list
[04:42] <Ziggamon> Is there an easy way to install a newer kernel on ubuntu dapper? like perhaps install the kernel from edgy? I need 2.16+ for my sound to work...
[04:42] <stefg> thomas: you want a cron-job
[04:42] <shriphani> isheep apt-cache search flash ?
[04:42] <thomas> o
[04:42] <bonsai> fredl, pastebin your logs and then report back with the problem and pastebin url, someone can then maybe help you
[04:42] <Ishmael> smax, no, really it should be 85
[04:42] <thomas> i'll look it up thatnks interfear
[04:42] <dmsantam> Ziggamon, you have to build your own
[04:42] <interfear> thomas: i would use cron like stefg  just said though
[04:43] <dmsantam> Ziggamon, download kernel-package
[04:43] <thomas> stefg well anything that i won't be prompted for a password
[04:43] <isheep> so i just need to install a plugin and the rest wil go automaticly?
[04:43] <bonsai> fredl, and pastebin xorg.conf too
[04:43] <dmsantam> Ziggamon, then read /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/Readme.gz
[04:43] <smax> Ishmael /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 85 and put it in monitor section
[04:43] <stefg> thomas: man crontab
[04:43] <fredl> bonsai: I don't see any error messages anywhere, not after loading, not after the trashing of the screen starts and not after the crashing either.
[04:43] <thomas> k thanks stefg
[04:43] <Ziggamon> dmsantam: can it be built into a .deb for easy switching?
[04:43] <dmsantam> Ziggamon, yep. that's exactly what kernel-package is for :)
[04:43] <Ziggamon> dmsamtam: thanks a lot!
[04:43] <fredl> bonsai: I also have a 'sure kill' reproduction scenario.
[04:44] <shriphani> Ziggamon, name a good package can use to practise compiling anything from source ?
[04:44] <chuckzorz> hey does anyone know where i can get kernel-source files?
[04:44] <dmsantam> chuckzorz, www.kernel.org?
[04:44] <goatmale> bonsai find anything?
[04:44] <interfear> shriphani: mplayer?
[04:44] <chuckzorz> possibly...but i have looked
[04:44] <shriphani> from source ?
[04:44] <shriphani> anything else ?
[04:44] <bonsai> fredl, in any case, whoever solves this for you will probably have to see your xorg.conf
[04:45] <interfear> shriphani: hrm.. i dunno.. you just want to practice installing from source? I wouldnt suggest that
[04:45] <chuckzorz> eh ive got the 2.6.15.23 amd64 k8
[04:45] <interfear> perhaps maybe on another install of ubuntu you can practive so you dont screw everything up
[04:45] <fredl> gotcha bonsai, just checking on here to see if anybody happens to have the same setup.
[04:45] <shriphani> but i want to screw something up ?
[04:45] <bonsai> !pastebin > fredl
[04:45] <interfear> shriphani: well then, how fast is your cpu
[04:46] <shriphani> i have a 256 MB ram
[04:46] <interfear> shriphani: what speed is your CPU
[04:46] <interfear> and i can tell already, with 256mb ram it cant be fast
[04:46] <shriphani> 1.6 Ghz
[04:46] <shriphani> or so i think
[04:46] <cracko> anyone use gftp?
[04:46] <interfear> heh, compile kde from scratch, that will keep you busy
[04:47] <interfear> cracko: yup
[04:47] <shriphani> no thanks
[04:47] <cracko> is it possible to make it upload the file after like it does with nedit
[04:47] <shriphani> anything small
[04:47] <cracko> using cream?
[04:47] <interfear> cracko: hrm, not sure man sorry
[04:47] <cracko> do you use a text editor when using gftp?
[04:47] <zalmoxes> just wondering, are all linux programmers writing codes only as part time?
[04:47] <stefg> no
[04:48] <interfear> cracko: no i dont, plus i only use gftp for the simplest of tasks
[04:48] <shriphani> i tried doing that to amarok (yes compiling it on ubuntu) and i got blown with a finla superhuge kdelibs download
[04:48] <fabietto^> hello
[04:48] <interfear> shriphani: yeh that happens man, libs
[04:48] <interfear> amarok for some reason wont play songs for me
[04:48] <shriphani> so can you suggest anything small?
[04:48] <interfear> it just tells me they are done playing righr afte ri click on them
[04:48] <shriphani> i had the same probs in kubuntu
[04:48] <fabietto^> someone have a toshiba satellite A60 ? i have some problem with the toshiba acpi and toshiba modules
[04:48] <morrolan> xmms?
[04:48] <interfear> shriphani: bitchx? irssi?
[04:48] <interfear> yeh xmms
[04:48] <stefg> !codecs
[04:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:49] <shriphani> irssi the text based thing ?
[04:49] <interfear> stefg: soud plays everywhere else..
[04:49] <shriphani> i mean console irc chat client
[04:49] <morrolan> fabietto^: I have a Toshiba A30 - I have problems with ACPI that I've never managed to fix :(
[04:49] <interfear> yeh console
[04:49] <isheep> how can i see what kind of terminal i use?
[04:50] <shriphani> isheep if you havent messed around it is prolly bash
[04:50] <zalmoxes> is it possible for linux to have a 3D desktop in the future?
[04:50] <LjL> morrolan: can you modprobe the toshiba module, or the toshiba-acpi module?
[04:50] <dmsantam> isheep, echo $SHELL
[04:50] <dmsantam> zalmoxes, yes
[04:50] <dmsantam> zalmoxes, there is one in the works atm if i recall
[04:50] <shriphani> dmsantam, you serious >
[04:50] <zalmoxes> in ubuntu?
[04:51] <dmsantam> i read about it not long ago
[04:51] <mjr> zalmoxes, the base technologies for that are already somewhat usable, though still in development
[04:51] <dmsantam> can't remember the nanme
[04:51] <zalmoxes> weee exciting
[04:51] <shriphani> hey i can compile vmware player !!!!
[04:51] <mjr> xgl/aiglx/compiz are keywords for now
[04:51] <dmsantam> http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/article.asp?SCID=22&CIID=35615
[04:51] <interfear> compiz is cool, but its really useless
[04:51] <isheep> yeah its bash :) is it possible to make the background of bash transpirant?
[04:52] <dmsantam> Xgl is the name
[04:52] <interfear> isheep: sure, but thats not bash, thats the terminal prog u use
[04:52] <dmsantam> looks interesting
[04:52] <Ziggamon> dmsamtam: where can I find a default configuration for ubuntu kernels? I don't want to / know how to go through the config my self...
[04:52] <morrolan> isheep: yes, using Gnome Termianl, but bash it the shell, not the terminal
[04:52] <interfear> isheep: gnome-terminal, e-term, etc
[04:52] <thomas> okay thanks guys, i ended up just adding myself to the admin list of the visudo file.
[04:52] <stefg> ooohhh, that'll smell badly... transpiring terminal background :-)
[04:52] <thomas> i'll change it back when i get home
[04:52] <thomas> thanks
[04:52] <dmsantam> Ziggamon, cat /boot
[04:52] <thomas> have a good weekend guys ;)
[04:52] <Ziggamon> dmsamtam: what do you mean?
[04:52] <interfear> I love it, my cpu usage is always at 0%
[04:52] <dmsantam> Ziggamon, sorry, i mean: cat /boot/config-2.6.15-26-686
[04:52] <interfear> lol
[04:52] <dmsantam> (or whatever your kernel is)
[04:52] <dmsantam> and use that
[04:53] <isheep> ow oke :X how can i check what kind of terminal i use then?
[04:53] <interfear> i built this fast pc to irc and download porn
[04:53] <interfear> lol
[04:53] <dmsantam> cat /boot/config-2.6.15-26-686 > .config
[04:53] <Ziggamon> dmsamtam: can it be used on a 2.6.17 kernel as well?
[04:53] <isheep> interfear: hehe
[04:53] <dmsantam> Ziggamon, yes. but just before you build, do "make oldconfig"
[04:53] <Ziggamon> dmsamtam! thanks a million!
[04:53] <stefg> !kernel
[04:53] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:53] <dmsantam> Ziggamon, then it will ask you all the new questions for options that are in the new kernel, but not in the old
[04:53] <dmsantam> Ziggamon, there will only be a few.
[04:54] <Ziggamon> dmsamtam: yeah, that I figured it would, but it's ok
[04:54] <buzzed> thoughts on Metacity ?
[04:54] <dmsantam> Ziggamon, you're most welcome :)
[04:54] <fabietto^> whenever i try to modprobe toshiba-acpi (or toshiba), i get a "device not found" error. google's telling me that my Satellite A60 has a proprietary BIOS which those modules didn't support -- however, all pages are from 2005, and a few of them mention that A60 BIOS support for Linux is in progress. i'd like to know if there is any outcome at all
[04:54] <fabietto^> or failing that, is there an alternative method to control my A60's CPU fan, since it never reaches full speed, and i'm forced to keep my CPU downclocked in order to avoid thermal control shutting it off?
[04:54] <buzzed> seems slow to load at startup... like 2+minutes
[04:54] <isheep> morrolan: how can i check what kind of terminal i use?
[04:55] <ubuntu__> ive installed "gnome-main-menu" via synaptic + then by .deb but it doesnt seem to be working do i have to start slab manually???
[04:55] <fredl-> bonsai: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18605
[04:55] <interfear> I just made this new 150gb ntfs partition in windows, and how do i have to mounted all the time in ubuntu now
[04:55] <interfear> with a link on my desktop etc
[04:55] <fredl-> bonsai: that's the relevant part of my xorg.conf
[04:55] <stefg> !ntfs > interfear
[04:55] <dmsantam> interfear, vim /etc/fstab
[04:55] <chuckzorz> my NVIDIA drivers installed correctly at one point...and started up with the splash screen, and show'd the loaded nvidia module with lsmod, but after a reboot the nvidia.o module wouldn't load. anyone have any idea?
[04:56] <buzzed> so anyone else have slow loading Metacicy?
[04:56] <Dirhael> Anyone have any ideas on why the fglrx driver keeps giving me this error message:  "kernel: [17232905.444000]  scheduling while atomic: Xorg/0x00000001/7917" I have 3d acceleration working, but I don't think it's quite working as it should performance-wise...
[04:56] <Dirhael> The last 4 digits may vary..
[04:56] <dmsantam> interfear, /dev/hda1       /somewhere           ntfs    defaults        0       0
[04:56] <interfear> cool cool
[04:56] <stefg> chuckzorz: didi you boot another kernel, for which the linux-restricted-modules packkage is not installed?
[04:57] <JohnRobert> is there an easy way to allow any other local users access to X? for example, if I su to a different user, I get: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:57] <dmsantam> John3437, before su, type: "xhost +"
[04:57] <JohnRobert> hmm
[04:57] <JohnRobert> ta
[04:57] <zalmoxes> how do i change locale setting in ubuntu? its currently en_SG, i want to change it to en_UK.
[04:57] <wm_eddie_> ... why is us.archive.ubuntu.com not working for me...
[04:58] <chuckzorz> stefg i booted the kernel that came with linux..which is kernel 2.6.15-23-amd64-k8
[04:58] <dmsantam> zalmoxes, System->Administration->Languages
[04:58] <chuckzorz> stefg i build the nvidia drivers with that --add-this-kernel
[04:58] <stefg> chuckzorz: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:58] <dmsantam> zalmoxes, Language support rather
[04:58] <zalmoxes> dmsantam: its says english
[04:58] <zalmoxes> dmsantam: doesnt say singapore english
[04:59] <fredl-> Ok, I am now logged in on another computer and the fglrx driver on my system is hanging....
[04:59] <chuckzorz> stefg ok its downloading
[04:59] <fredl-> I can still remotely log in on my system with ssh though.
[04:59] <`DaGuy> will Evolution Mail work w/ MSN (Hotmail)? If so, how?
[04:59] <fredl-> Apparently I cannot kill the X server anymore, not even with kill -9
[05:00] <dmsantam> zalmoxes, are you on dapper? or breezy?
[05:00] <Bakemono> `DaGuy, afaik MSN does not support SMTP
[05:00] <dmsantam> zalmoxes, vim /etc/environment if you're on dapper
[05:00] <Bakemono> bah, not MSN hotmail
[05:00] <fredl-> Hmm, it would seem the X server has now killed my entire system :(
[05:01] <chuckzorz> stefg ok. its installed and tells me to change the nv to nvidia in my xf86....umm did it just download a excell graphics driver
[05:01] <Tzy> 5
[05:01] <zalmoxes> dmsantam: i'm on dapper, it seems to be fixes
[05:01] <zalmoxes> dmsantam: fixed
[05:01] <fredl-> I can still ping my system but no longer ssh.
[05:01] <dmsantam> zalmoxes, :)
[05:01] <wm_eddie_> WTF us.archive.ubuntu.com is being flaky...
[05:01] <zalmoxes> dmsantam: thanks
[05:01] <stefg> chuckzorz: so you edited your /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually before?
[05:01] <dmsantam> zalmoxes, you're welcome
[05:02] <chuckzorz> yeah a change to nvidia from nv
[05:02] <`DaGuy> Bakemono - MSN ???? I know!!! Have my reasons - Thx for info.
[05:02] <chuckzorz> but then it stopped loading the module
[05:02] <chuckzorz> so i had to change it back
[05:02] <fredl-> will anybody please try to help me with the problem I'm having with my fglrx driver/ATI X700 Pro card?
[05:03] <chuckzorz> now i can install the NVIDIA amd64 driver that the manufacturer supplies right?
[05:03] <stefg> chuckzorz: verify by cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia that driver is nvidia
[05:03] <chuckzorz> yeah it says nvidia
[05:03] <stefg> chuckzorz: so youre on 64 bit , right?
[05:03] <chuckzorz> yeah
[05:04] <chuckzorz> which is very annoying
[05:04] <chuckzorz> i should of got the 32 bit
[05:04] <britishseapower> i've upgraded to dapper..i thought i had an option to choose XFCE as my WM.... I don't see it ?
[05:04] <stefg> you could try if it works now by sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:04] <chuckzorz> ok thanks for the help..ill brb
[05:04] <britishseapower> This is pretty low spec hardware so I was looking to try XFCE
[05:05] <britishseapower> stefg: that for me ?
[05:05] <nomin> how do I get xine to play mp3's?  vlc and mplayer play them just fine.  I have the win32 codecs installed.  I don't know why xine can't play them or mpeg videos.
[05:05] <zalmoxes> britishseapower: did you install xubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:05] <stefg> britishseapower: no that was for chuckzorz
[05:06] <stinkball> britishseapower: you can do apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, i think
[05:06] <interfear> whats the chmod value to change the write to so everyone can read/write
[05:06] <britishseapower> stefg: ok, ta
[05:06] <pallani> hello
[05:06] <britishseapower> zalmoxes: ubuntu
[05:06] <Warbo> interfear: 777
[05:06] <interfear> thought so
[05:06] <interfear> cool
[05:06] <britishseapower> actually though...i do like this desktop as is !
[05:06] <britishseapower> and it's not that slow
[05:06] <britishseapower> Is this gnome ?
[05:06] <pallani> i have very slow download speed in in both synaptic and the terminal when downloading updates
[05:06] <zalmoxes> britishseapower: ya
[05:06] <interfear> interfear@dualcore:~$ sudo chmod 777 /dump
[05:06] <interfear> Password:
[05:06] <interfear> chmod: changing permissions of `/dump': Read-only file system
[05:06] <orbin> pallani: where are you located?
[05:06] <interfear> why read only?
[05:07] <pallani> singapore
[05:07] <interfear> i need write/read
[05:07] <britishseapower> ok...maybe i'll stick...
[05:07] <Warbo> interfear: Look at the output of "mount"
[05:07] <orbin> pallani: try using the singaporean mirror
[05:07] <britishseapower> it's nice...I love these multiple desktops....
[05:07] <pallani> how do i do that thanks?
[05:07] <britishseapower> I prefer this to windows.
[05:07] <interfear> Warbo: hrm.. didnt use mount to get it up, just the ubuntu disk manager
[05:08] <zalmoxes> britishseapower: xubuntu =xfce; kubuntu =kde; ubuntu =gnome
[05:08] <Warbo> interfear: "mount" by itself will show you how each filesystem has been mounted (showing if has been mounted read-only)
[05:08] <britishseapower> oh, gotcha.
[05:08] <morrolan> britishseapower: We all do - that's why we use Linux, especially Ubuntu!
[05:08] <pere> Hi. I have just boght an IBM x346, with an IBM ServerRAID 7e(Adaptec HostRaid)-kontroller. I have two disks that I want to set up in Raid1. However Ubuntu is seeing them as two disks even after the raid-array is created. Any ideas?
[05:08] <britishseapower> Thanks for that...
[05:08] <Hoxzer> has somebody here configured TS to use alsa?
[05:08] <Hoxzer> or somekind of software mixer
[05:08] <pallani> orbin how do i change the mirror for updates?
[05:08] <interfear> Warbo: /dev/sda4 on /dump type ntfs (rw)
[05:08] <TeejayKT> I've got a question about removable media - creative zen micro mp3 player - and how to mount this ... private msg?
[05:08] <Hoxzer> I read some howto about it but seems not to work :/
[05:08] <orbin> pallani: it involves editing your sources.list file
[05:08] <britishseapower> morrolan: well i still need windows unfortunately...I need MS word for my job and photoshop also
[05:09] <Warbo> interfear: NTFS is read only, unless you get a special piece of software
[05:09] <Warbo> !ntfs
[05:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:09] <interfear> Warbo: oh thats right..
[05:09] <britishseapower> My main desktop's PSU blew up the other day so I'm trying this on some old HW...very impressive
[05:09] <interfear> i need that ntfs 3g thing
[05:09] <stefg> !raid
[05:09] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:09] <interfear> drrr
[05:09] <interfear> im an ass
[05:09] <frogzoo> britishseapower: vmware/qemu/wine
[05:09] <orbin> pallani: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic is an easy way of getting the new one.  put sg as your country code
[05:09] <Warbo> :)
[05:09] <stefg> !language
[05:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:09] <britishseapower> hmmm...i'm suspicious of those emulators
[05:09] <interfear> sry
[05:10] <britishseapower> i.e. in terems of ease of use/ease of setup and perfromance overhead
[05:10] <pallani> ok orbin will try it
[05:10] <pere> Thanks ubuto. Ill read that first.
[05:10] <pallani> btw can i just close the terminal while its updating
[05:10] <stefg> !ubotu
[05:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:10] <interfear> gah!. ntfs3g is only comptabible with 32bit systems
[05:10] <frogzoo> britishseapower: wine isn't an emulator
[05:10] <interfear> oh well, that was a waste of time making that parition
[05:10] <interfear> ill just use ext2
[05:10] <fredl-> will anybody please try to help me with the problem I'm having with my fglrx driver/ATI X700 Pro card?
[05:10] <Warbo> britishseapower: VMWare has the most reliability, WINE has fastest speed and Qemu is Free
[05:10] <morrolan> I'm using beagle, but it fails to find files and folders that I know exist with a certain name?  Any ideas?
[05:11] <stefg> !ati > fredl-
[05:11] <britishseapower> ok...noted...thanks..
[05:11] <chuckzorz> thank you stefg, it works
[05:11] <orbin> pallani: it will stop the update
[05:11] <Warbo> morrolan: If you fix it, can you tell me how :)
[05:11] <stefg> bingo, chuckzorz
[05:11] <morrolan> !toshiba
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about toshiba - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:11] <fredl-> thanks stefg, but I have read all that.
[05:11] <frogzoo> !laptop
[05:11] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:11] <stefg> fredl-: 64bit system?
[05:11] <morrolan> I'm using beagle, but it fails to find files and folders that I know exist with a certain name?  Any ideas?
[05:11] <chuckzorz> has anyone gotten xgl running on kubuntu 6?
[05:11] <fredl-> stefg: the driver works, but for some reason it's unstable.
[05:11] <jdmpike> yo!
[05:12] <stefg> fredl-: that's a known issue with ati drivers
[05:12] <DJ_KeNnY> any of the overheads here from ubuntu? Witch controls a whole lot in Ubuntu
[05:12] <fredl-> stefg: I don't know, how do I tell it's 64 bit?
[05:12] <fredl-> stefg: is there a workaround?
[05:12] <jdmpike> I am trying to get tightvnc setup on my xubuntu server, can anyone help me out?
[05:13] <Warbo> fredl-: "uname -r"
[05:13] <pallani> btw orbin will the new file created update or totaly replace the sources file?
[05:13] <fredl-> root@positron:/etc/X11# uname -r
[05:13] <fredl-> 2.6.15-26-686
[05:13] <Warbo> (to see the kernel version, and hence the bit-ness)
[05:13] <Warbo> fredl-: 32bit
[05:13] <fredl-> I guess that means it's not 64 bit?
[05:13] <pallani> because i have added a few respostries manually
[05:13] <fredl-> 'k
[05:13] <stefg> fredl-: you should know if you have a 64 bit cpu... and sorry i only use nvidia (because ATI isn't able to provide good drivers)
[05:13] <chuckzorz> ati =(
[05:14] <Warbo> stefg: I use an old Radeon which uses Free drivers
[05:14] <fredl-> stefg: I have an Intel CPU that does 64 bit, except apparently it's not doing that now.
[05:14] <stefg> fredl-: what dos uname -r tell you?
[05:14] <chuckzorz> kernel version
[05:14] <fredl-> 2.6.15-26-686
[05:15] <stefg> ok, so you're running a 32 bit system... better
[05:15] <chuckzorz> rawr i want xgl
[05:15] <morrolan> I'm using beagle, but it fails to find files and folders that I know exist with a certain name?  Any ideas?
[05:15] <pandamonium> heh - i can make my system totally freeze up
[05:15] <stefg> !xgl
[05:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:15] <fredl-> stefg - so apparently it's not running the 64 bit mode. Oddly enough, it says in dmesg that I have two CPU's
[05:16] <pallani> anyone know what i must do to speed up downloads of synaptic and the terminal for updates
[05:16] <dmsantam> Fred, that's hyperthreading
[05:16] <pandamonium> can't even ssh in
[05:16] <stefg> fredl-: Hyperthreading....
[05:16] <pallani> its really slow 1-19kbps
[05:16] <pandamonium> thing is, i think it might be useful if i was to report the circumstances somewhere
[05:16] <fredl-> dmsantam: I thought that might be it. dmesg also says though: CPU: Hyper-Threading is disabled
[05:16] <pere> The howtos about Raid did not help. Any ideas about setting up hardware raid like IbmServerRAID 7e under ubuntu?
[05:17] <Rikkimaru> I can't get my laptop to play any sounds.  How do I find new drivers for it?
[05:17] <stefg> pere: did you use lvm?
[05:17] <Warbo> pallani: Are some of the sources personal sites (like www.domain.com/~user/my-debian or something), 'cos they will go slow
[05:17] <fredl-> anyway, I think my CPU is not under discussion here right now :)
[05:17] <dmsantam> !xgl
[05:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:17] <fredl-> stefg - you say it's a known issue with fglrx that it's unstable. Do you know of any workarounds for it?
[05:17] <pallani> Warbo no even the ubuntu respo are very slow
[05:17] <pandamonium> so... is there somewhere to post which software and devices cause the freeze-up complete with syslog?
[05:17] <Veselu> hello
[05:17] <pallani> avregaes at abot 5kbps
[05:18] <reuben> seems like the US package repos are down...??
[05:18] <Bakemono> mhm, ive never heard about fluxbuntu, interesting
[05:18] <Warbo> pandamonium: Launchpad?
[05:18] <pandamonium> launchpad?
[05:18] <Veselu> where can i get some help with a mail server?
[05:18] <Warbo> !launchpad
[05:18] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[05:18] <fredl-> stefg: because I can find one URL, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79602.html where somebody sees exactly the same problem....
[05:18] <stefg> fredl-: no, there's a 'somebody-elses-problem' cloak-field from my point of view :-)
[05:18] <fredl-> stefg: but no solution at all.
[05:19] <chuckzorz> ok stefg i got a problem again
[05:19] <chuckzorz> my graphic drivers are working too good
[05:19] <stefg> who hasn't :-)
[05:19] <chuckzorz> everything is excellerated
[05:19] <chuckzorz> like
[05:19] <fredl-> accelerated? :)
[05:19] <pere> stefg: How should I use it. I did create an raid1-array in the Adaptec SCSI-configuration menu. Then booted the install disk. It saw two disks.
[05:19] <chuckzorz> movement in games is super fast
[05:19] <chuckzorz> too fast
[05:19] <chuckzorz> faster than normal
[05:20] <Warbo> chuckzorz: Are you trying to play some old X games? They use the CPU as a timer, which is stupid since CPUs get faster
[05:20] <chuckzorz> nah
[05:20] <chuckzorz> like Quake3
[05:20] <stefg> pere: don't confuse host- and adapter-based raid,
[05:20] <skavenge> i wish xroach still wroked
[05:20] <skavenge> worked even
[05:20] <morrolan> !%U
[05:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about %U - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:20] <fredl-> is it possible to downgrade the fglrx driver?
[05:21] <chuckzorz> the fram rate is just insane
[05:21] <Veselu> -- where can i get some help with a mail server? --
[05:21] <Warbo> chuckzorz: Framerate shouldn't affect the game speed, it should just be smoother
[05:21] <Rambo3> http://www.lokigames.com/products/
[05:21] <chuckzorz> ah well its smooth
[05:21] <stefg> pere: i'm just guessing, but i maybe you have to tell the adaptec adapter to manage the raid by itself, and present a single logical volume to the OS
[05:21] <chuckzorz> but FAST
[05:21] <`DaGuy> Veselu - I am having same problem ... what is ur issue
[05:21] <chuckzorz> everything happens so fast
[05:22] <stefg> chuckzorz: time for posing :-) what does glxgears -printfps say?
[05:22] <Warbo> chuckzorz: You sure you didn't enter the champion tournament or something? :)
[05:22] <chuckzorz> im using a eGeforce GTX 7900 512mb
[05:22] <fredl-> is it possible to downgrade any package ?
[05:22] <pere> stefg: I am guessing as well... but I think that is what I did. In the bios/boot-menu the disks are now presented as one disk, but in the Ubuntu install it is two disks
[05:23] <lecaros> !ping
[05:23] <ubotu> pong
[05:23] <Warbo> fredl-: Obsolete versions of packages are removed from the repositories
[05:23] <chuckzorz> first thing it says "77068 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15413.526 FPS
[05:23] <chuckzorz> "
[05:23] <pere> I am getting an PCI error. It is unintelligent, but my guess is that this is the raid controller faillure..
[05:23] <stefg> pere: can you paste sudo fdisk -l and dmesg output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to let me have a look?
[05:23] <pallani> is anybody else getting slow download speeds from ubuntu repos?
[05:23] <Warbo> fredl-: You could find an older version, remove your current one, then compile the older version yourself
[05:23] <shriphani> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[05:23] <shriphani> kernel?
[05:23] <morrolan> pallani: nope, just downloaded some stuff, nice and fast
[05:24] <zalmoxes> pallani: me
[05:24] <fredl-> Hmmm...
[05:24] <Warbo> shriphani: /lib/modules/<version>/build
[05:24] <pallani> i am getting very slow download it drivng me crazy
[05:24] <Warbo> shriphani: To get them run "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[05:25] <stefg> pallani: get a new sources.list for a different mirror from easysource
[05:25] <shriphani> wouldnt sudo apt-get install build-eesential get them for me ?
[05:25] <Warbo> fredl-: As in, find an older binary file from ATI
[05:25] <Warbo> shriphani: Nope
[05:25] <Warbo> shriphani: They are not essential, unless you are building a driver
[05:25] <fredl-> Warbo: just thinking maybe I can download the older deb on a Breezy system I still have here.
[05:25] <pere> stefg: I can do that.. but the current install is just a test. I did just choose "automatic partitioning", and installed. I was hoping for the raid to work (since it was just mirroring). However, it did not.
[05:26] <shriphani> i am installing vmware player
[05:26] <Warbo> fredl-: Packages are pre-compiled. Breezy packages are compiled for Breezy kernels, so compile your own for your Dapper kernel
[05:26] <stefg> pere: that's the quirk... automatic can't deal with raid
[05:26] <Warbo> shriphani: That installs drivers
[05:26] <chuckzorz> stefg i noticed i didn't have dbe under the Module Section in my xorg.conf...would that have affected something?
[05:26] <pere> stefg: Yes. I know. Just a test, so fdik will not give you anything
[05:27] <Warbo> !info vmware-player
[05:27] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[05:27] <fredl-> Warbo: Hmmm.
[05:27] <billybennett> Anyone know any guides I can use to tune down Ubuntu for an old machine?
[05:27] <chuckzorz> rawr this xchat-gnome is pissing me off
[05:27] <shriphani> ok
[05:27] <pallani> stefg: easysource?
[05:27] <stefg> !easysource
[05:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:27] <pere> The problem is really that the installer do not see the raid array. And that it is not letting me load additional drivers (like redhat used to)
[05:27] <Warbo> shriphani: Why aren't you using the one in Add/Remove?
[05:28] <shriphani> it says it has no installation candidate
[05:28] <jdmpike> anyone in here know of a good tightvnc how to?
[05:28] <pere> stefg: I can find driver img disks for Suse and Redhat on the IBM-pages..
[05:28] <frogzoo> !tightvnc
[05:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about tightvnc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:28] <stefg> pere: the concept behind it is that ubuntu /badly/ wants to use evms and lvm... maybe use that for setting up the raid1
[05:29] <maven> hi
[05:29] <DA_> i currently have an amd64 system with dapper packages, is there a branch that has earlier version packages than dapper but will still work with amd64?
[05:29] <zalmoxes> how do i add information on the laptop testing information wiki?
[05:29] <shriphani> hmm i cant see multi universe in ources.list
[05:29] <Rambo3> add it you self
[05:29] <Warbo> !multiverse
[05:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:29] <frogzoo> DA_: breezy
[05:29] <pere> stefg: You mean, just setting up an sofware raid?
[05:29] <DA_> frogzoo: ty ill give that a try
[05:29] <maven> i installed the ut2004 demo, can anyone tell me how i uninstall it?
[05:30] <bahadirt> hello guys
[05:30] <Warbo> maven: Did you use a package?
[05:30] <nomin> I have win32 codec installed and everything plays fine on mplayer and vlc.  xine plays everything but mpeg, mpg, or mp3's because it says "unsupported codec: mpeg layer 2/3".  How do I get xine to play mp3's?
[05:30] <bahadirt> I am bored of typing sudo everytime, how can I set myself as root
[05:30] <stefg> yup... won't affect the performance to much anyway in raid1
[05:30] <Rambo3> maven installation file has uninstall too
[05:30] <maven> a package?
[05:30] <Warbo> !synaptic
[05:30] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:30] <bahadirt> especially when I open textfiles in gnome, it does not allow me make changes
[05:30] <maven> i just downloaded from a site and installed
[05:30] <frogzoo> bahadirt: learn to type :p
[05:30] <Warbo> maven: Do everything with packages, otherwise you are screwed when you try to uninstall
[05:31] <pandamonium> repped :)
[05:31] <bahadirt> I can only open the textfile fm terminal with sudo gedit :)
[05:31] <stefg> bahadirt: sudo -s gives you a root shell when you need it... otherwise set a root password with sudo passwd root
[05:31] <bahadirt> to edit the file
[05:31] <pandamonium> thanks Warbo :)
[05:31] <maven> Warbo: eh?
[05:31] <bahadirt> but in gnome?
[05:31] <shriphani> guys can someone post the multiuniverse repo to me
[05:31] <Warbo> maven: Did you use to use Windows?
[05:31] <bahadirt> when I double click a textfile, I want it as root
[05:32] <maven> Warbo: A while ago, yes
[05:32] <Rambo3> !sources > shriphani
[05:32] <stefg> !easysource > shriphani
[05:32] <bahadirt> !sudo
[05:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:32] <Warbo> maven: Well I will tell you now, don't get stuff from websites unless they are packages. Debs are best, RPM if you have to
[05:32] <zalmoxes> !easysource
[05:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:33] <maven> Warbo: theres only one file on the whole internet for the linux demo of ut2004, which is what i got and installed with
[05:33] <jonass> how can i add a bottom panel like this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre2/28352-2.jpg in gnome?
[05:33] <Warbo> maven: If you are lucky then UT is in /usr/local, try browsing the folders in there are deleting stuff manually. If it is in /usr then you will have to do A LOT of digging
[05:33] <pere> stefg: Do you know what "not too much" is in practical use? This server is being used for a read-only mysql database on an high traffic server. I really squized my budged here for getting an SCSI raid system...:-)
[05:33] <Warbo> maven: I have found Debian packages of it before
[05:34] <shriphani> i cant see multiuniverse in source-o-matic
[05:34] <maven> Warbro: thats what i did with doom3, but i didnt think it was clean enough
[05:34] <Warbo> shriphani: It is called multiverse
[05:34] <shriphani> ok
[05:35] <bahadirt> frogzoo: in gnome, I need to open the textfile as root, how I can set it ?
[05:35] <jonass> how can i add a bottom panel like this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre2/28352-2.jpg?
[05:35] <bahadirt> I dont want to run gedit from the terminal with sudo
[05:35] <Warbo> bahadirt: gksudo
[05:35] <bahadirt> warbo : that would need a terminal again right ?
[05:35] <frogzoo> bahadirt: don't ask in a support channel for ways to mess up your system - peeps just won't answer
[05:36] <DA_> is there a package mirror i can use for breezy? us.archive.ubuntu.com is not responding
[05:36] <bahadirt> I just want to doubleclick :)
[05:36] <Warbo> bahadirt: Or a launcher
[05:36] <stefg> pere: hmmm, i don't have practical experince with that. I'd search google  for your adapters name and ubuntu, and read the evms an lvm docs  to see if this is a known issue and if it can be solved
[05:36] <bahadirt> ah ok
[05:36] <bahadirt> a launcher will be ok
[05:36] <Warbo> bahadirt: Make a launcher which runs "gksudo gedit", simple
[05:36] <bahadirt> frogzoo: tks yr advices but I need guidances instead mate
[05:36] <bahadirt> tks anyway
[05:36] <bahadirt> warbo : that's great. tks mate
[05:37] <stefg> !info mdadm
[05:37] <Warbo> jonass: Right click in a panel and go on properties. Make it's size bigger, then turn off "expand"
[05:37] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux md device arrays (software RAID). In repository main, is standard. Version 1.12.0-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 348 kB
[05:37] <goatmale> is it just me or does the universe not work?
[05:37] <pere> stefg: Ive spent the last six hours searching for my controller and ubuntu...:-) Closes match was a couple of other persons also having problems.
[05:37] <stefg> As i see mdadm only deals with softraid
[05:37] <shriphani> should i get an entire new repo list ?
[05:37] <fredl-> so far Dapper has not been real kind to me... it seems to only work reliably on my laptop
[05:37] <goatmale>  is it just me or does the universe not work?
[05:37] <Warbo> goatmale: As in !universe, or in general?
[05:38] <goatmale> !universe
[05:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:38] <Warbo> goatmale: Oh, then it is just you :)
[05:38] <goatmale> at least syanptic isn't working
[05:38] <fredl-> I'm going to try and upgrade another PC with a fairly old graphics card and keep my fingers crossed that'll work.
[05:38] <shriphani> !easysource > shriphani
[05:38] <stefg> pere: let me see your dmesg
[05:39] <stefg> pere: my guess is that somhoe the kernel resets the adaptec into see-thru mode
[05:40] <Warbo> Anyone know why Gish stopped working? It uses OpenGL, OpenAL and SDL. It worked for a few days, but now crashes X
[05:40] <fredl-> hmm actually, I'll cancel the upgrade of this system since it's the only Breezy I still have
[05:40] <billybennett> what is Flight 5?
[05:40] <DA_> !mirrors
[05:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:40] <Warbo> billybennett: One of Dapper's testing phases
[05:40] <recon0> What's the equivlent of the "IPCONFIG/ALL" command in windows?
[05:40] <DA_> !sources
[05:40] <Warbo> !dapper
[05:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:40] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[05:40] <clarity_> hey apt-get isn't working right
[05:41] <billybennett> someone told me they were using Flight 5 Dapper
[05:41] <goatmale> seeeeee it's not only me
[05:41] <goatmale> it's nor working for me either clarity
[05:41] <shriphani> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[05:41] <shriphani> Err http://in.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources
[05:41] <shriphani>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:41] <shriphani> Fetched 212kB in 10s (19.8kB/s)
[05:41] <shriphani> Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:41] <shriphani> what is that ?
[05:41] <Warbo> billybennett: If they upgrade in a package manager then they will be using the final release
[05:41] <LjL> !pastebin
[05:41] <clarity_> yeah that one looks like it's da
[05:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:41] <clarity_> dead
[05:41] <LjL> shriphani: try a different mirror
[05:41] <shriphani> erm sorry folks didnt realise it would be that big
[05:41] <clarity_> apt-get -f install isn't working right
[05:42] <goatmale> what's that program called
[05:42] <goatmale> amrok?
[05:42] <Warbo> Works for me with regular archive.ubuntu.com
[05:42] <Warbo> amarok
[05:42] <frogzoo> amarok
[05:43] <shriphani> i did sudo apt-get update
[05:43] <shriphani> and it doesnt work
[05:43] <pere> stefg: I post you my dmesg.... A bit ackward setup here with use one monitor. So itll take a few minutes...:-)
[05:43] <billybennett> If I install a secondary hard-drive on a ubuntu box is it hard to get it to recognize?
[05:43] <stefg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:43] <lecaros> !amarok
[05:43] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[05:43] <frogzoo> billybennett: au contrair - it's exceedingly straight forward
[05:43] <billybennett> pastebin.ca is easy and fast
[05:44] <Tommy2k4> ubuntu crashed yet again -__-
[05:44] <billybennett> frogzoo, is it *shudders* plug and play
[05:44] <billybennett> lol
[05:44] <kbrooks> ATTN.
[05:44] <frogzoo> billybennett: not completely afaik, just run gparted to setup your partitions, then update /etc/fstab
[05:45] <krism> anybody know how i make dapper use a specific sound module? (e.g. "nvsound" instead of "snd_hda_intel")
[05:45] <kbrooks> THE US MIRROR IS DOWN. WE KNOW ABOUT THIS ALREADY
[05:45] <goatmale> so what do we do?
[05:45] <frogzoo> kbrooks: like we care :p
[05:45] <stefg> pere: BTW, you are aware that there's the 'big-iron' kernels... mybe try one of these
[05:45] <billybennett> oh.. okay :) cause I'm trying really hard to setup a torrentflux box with ubuntu and right now its only got a 20gb hard-drive and I was wondering if I should install it now or later.. I'll wait and do it later
[05:45] <keyhack> Any Quicken users here? I'm thinking about making the switch to Ubuntu + XGL, but I need a.) Quicken and b.) Far Cry support :-p
[05:45] <billybennett> keyhack, XGL is all show
[05:45] <michaels_> on my secondary machine, I had dual-boot Win and SuSE but SuSE was too heavy, so I used Xubuntu LiveCD to erase the SuSE partitions, but now I need to boot Win before I have a chance to install Xubuntu and I have to fix the boot because it asks me for commands I don't understand... How can I boot to Win?
[05:46] <winman> what tool can I use to convert a postscript "print to file" output to a pdf?
[05:46] <bbrazil> winman: ps2pdf
[05:46] <billybennett> keyhack, your running nvidia right?
[05:46] <keyhack> billybennett, what?
[05:46] <frogzoo> winman: ps2pdf would you believe?
[05:46] <keyhack> billybennett, ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 Pro
[05:46] <winman> bbrazil, frogzoo .. thans :P
[05:46] <billybennett> keyhack, from what I hear ATI isnt gonna be too smooth for XGL/Compiz
[05:46] <shriphani> can anyone find vmware in apt-get repos ?
[05:47] <kbrooks> keyhack: a) Look into Gnucash. it can import these files. b) What is Far Cry? Link to site?
[05:47] <LjL> winman: which is in the gs-common package
[05:47] <keyhack> billybennett, a few months ago I found a forum that told you how to get it running, and it worked pretty smooth on my laptop back then, maybe things have changed
[05:47] <Warbo> keyhack: I got XGL working fine on my Radeon 9200, but I don't like it so I don't use it
[05:47] <goatmale> how do I turn my sound on?
[05:47] <keyhack> kbrooks, its a gam
[05:47] <LjL> shriphani: i can find vmware player, yes
[05:47] <Warbo> !sound
[05:47] <keyhack> game*
[05:47] <LjL> !info vmware-player
[05:47] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:47] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[05:47] <kbrooks> keyhack: Link pease
[05:47] <shriphani> why cant i then
[05:47] <billybennett> keyhack, oh well in that case... I've just heard alot of video overlay problems with ATI and XGL
[05:47] <keyhack> kbrooks, http://farcry.ubi.com/ .
[05:47] <Warbo> keyhack: 3D stuff may not work too well in XGL
[05:48] <Warbo> keyhack: Since XGL is hogging the 3D
[05:48] <britishseapower> Anyone have a view on these "Powerline Ethernet Adapters"...? Friend of mine reckons they run a bit hot and are not that reliable - any views ?
[05:48] <LjL> shriphani: probably because you don't have multiverse (and possibly universe) enabled
[05:48] <LjL> !tell shimmmy about multiverse
[05:48] <LjL> !tell shriphani about multiverse
[05:48] <LjL> sorry shimmmy
[05:48] <kbrooks> xgl itself isnt some magic
[05:48] <goatmale> Warbo can I do that in terminal?
[05:49] <keyhack> meh, maybe I'll switch back to Windows then :-p
[05:49] <winman> LjL, thanks, but I had it on my system already :)
[05:49] <shriphani> they are enabled
[05:49] <billybennett> keyhack, look up WINE and Quicken
[05:49] <LjL> shriphani: i bet they aren't. check better, and/or paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[05:50] <britishseapower> Anyone using powerline ethernet ?
[05:50] <LjL> shriphani: a "sudo apt-get update" won't hurt either, to be sure
[05:50] <Warbo> goatmale: That referrs to a GNOME utility. I don't know how to do it in console
[05:50] <NAiL> I'm trying to install edgy eft on amd x64, but the CD stops at "starting kernel log". I've switched off acpi/apic, but it still hangs there. Is this a known problem?
[05:50] <clarity_> hmm
[05:50] <goatmale> I can't find what it says warbo
[05:50] <pere> stefg: OK. I am back again. Now with ssh working, so that I have access to both servers...:-) Did you want a dump of /var/log/messages? Where?
[05:50] <Warbo> "Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)" I hate those things :(
[05:50] <rayston> my secondary drive is currently mounted as noexec, how do I fix that?
[05:50] <goatmale> there is no multimedia under perefences
[05:50] <clarity_> I installed some packages of debian's unstable repository and now I can't get anything to work w/ apt-get
[05:51] <clarity_> it's saying I need to do apt-get -f install
[05:51] <clarity_> and when I do it, it tries to install tzdata
[05:51] <goatmale> apt get is down
[05:51] <goatmale> on US servers
[05:51] <clarity_> then tzdata breaks
[05:51] <clarity_> yeah. I'm not using us servers
[05:51] <Warbo> clarity_: apt-get -f install will fix missing dependencies or remove hopelessly broken packages
[05:51] <clarity_> this is something different
[05:51] <LjL> clarity_: cool, next time perhaps you'll avoid doing something like that again. i bet you knew that installing Debian packages could be dangerous.
[05:51] <stefg> pere: no, let me just have a look at dmesg first to get a clue of what's happening
[05:51] <burepe> what is a good low on resources browser other than firefox?
[05:51] <clarity_> hmm.. is there any way to fix it w/o reinstalling ubuntu?
[05:51] <frogzoo> rayston: no need to change it, linux doesn't really care
[05:52] <Hoxzer> How do I know which device is alsa using?
[05:52] <Warbo> clarity_: Look for what needs tzdata, and get rid of it (maybe a Debian version of something)
[05:52] <LjL> clarity_: what did you install from the debian reps?
[05:52] <pere> stefg: OK. You had an address for posting that earlier. Lost it...
[05:52] <frogzoo> rayston: oh, unless you mean noexec in /etc/fstab - edit the file, & remount
[05:52] <LjL> clarity_: and, do you still have the debian reps in your sources.list? and have you sudo apt-get update 'd?
[05:52] <clarity_> it's libc6 that requires tzdata
[05:52] <tigerspirit> hopw to make cupsd running by default during the boot?
[05:52] <snooplsm> i'm a dummy, if I have a bin what command do i use to install?
[05:52] <Bakemono> NAiL, I have problems with amd64 too, but not exactly the same ;-\
[05:52] <stefg> pere: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:52] <LjL> clarity_: so you've installed the debian libc6?
[05:52] <clarity_> LjL: I took off the deb and it stopped working
[05:52] <Warbo> snooplsm: What is it of?
[05:52] <clarity_> I tried to install kismet
[05:52] <NAiL> Bakemono: what is your problem then? :)
[05:53] <snooplsm> Warbo: J2EE jdk .bin
[05:53] <clarity_> the kismet that is on ubuntu's mirrors is insanely outdate and doesn't work with madwifi-ng
[05:53] <Bakemono> "MP-BIOS bug", and "PCI not connected"
[05:53] <Ivan1969> hi is anyone having problems downloading from the repositories?
[05:53] <snooplsm> i wanted to install to etc/java/jdk and it won't let me make the folder
[05:53] <frogzoo> burepe: elinks ;)
[05:53] <frogzoo> NAiL: install elinks
[05:53] <pere> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18616
[05:53] <Warbo> snooplsm: "./filename.bin" (maybe put sudo before that)
[05:54] <Warbo> I prefer lynx
[05:54] <stefg> pere: ok, mom
[05:54] <LjL> clarity_: so you have added the Debian unstable rep to sources.list, updated, and then installed kismet, is that correct? did you see it installing other packages too, like libc6?
[05:54] <shriphani> !pastebin > shriphani
[05:54] <Warbo> (elinks says no support for SSL, so finding driver solutions in the Wiki is useless)
[05:54] <NAiL> frogzoo: I've got one hopelessly broken ubuntu install and one PC that ubuntu won't install on. I can't get a browser working atm ;)
[05:54] <rayston> frogzoo, linux does indeed care, I changed the noexec flag once in the past using...remount? (I dont remember the command, thats the problem) and it fixed some problems with file access for me
[05:54] <zalmoxes> i always get this warning:(gedit:9928): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[05:54] <zalmoxes> (gedit:9928): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[05:55] <shriphani> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18617
[05:55] <frogzoo> NAiL: elinks is text based - it 'should' just work... very little to set up
[05:55] <shriphani> thats my apt-get repos
[05:55] <burepe> Are those both text browsers? I would like a webpage image browser..
[05:55] <NAiL> not firefox, not links, w3m, whatever
[05:55] <clarity_> LjL: yep... and libc6 is at a higher version that's in the ubuntu mirror... libc6 is trying to install tzdata and it can't install it
[05:55] <LjL> clarity_: (and really, if you need packages as up-to-date as those from debian unstable, i'd suggest you use debian unstable. Ubuntu's packages can be up to 6 months old, since that's when the repositories get frozen from debian unstable's)
[05:55] <NAiL> frogzoo: yeah, if apt-get didn't segfault on me, I probably could install it ;)
[05:55] <LjL> clarity_: having the libc6 from debian will break just about everything on your system.
[05:55] <clarity_> eh... everything seems to work fine
[05:55] <clarity_> the only thing broken is apt-get
[05:55] <burepe> any non-text browsers suggestions?
[05:55] <frogzoo> rayston: the noexec option prevents all files on a file system being executed - you need to edit /etc/fstab & remount the partition
[05:56] <LjL> clarity_: *remove* the debian reps from sources.list, *issue* a "sudo apt-get update", and then *reinstall* libc6 with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libc6"  --  and hope
[05:56] <stefg> pere: as far as I can see, mdadm is kicking in and trying to deal with the array... that might be wrong
[05:56] <LjL> clarity_: yeah, until you reboot, i bet.
[05:56] <DA_> burepe: mozilla-firefox, konquerer, epiphany
[05:56] <zalmoxes> i always get this warning for all programs:
[05:56] <zalmoxes> (gedit:9928): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[05:56] <zalmoxes> (gedit:9928): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[05:56] <shriphani> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18617
[05:56] <clarity_> nope...I rebooted
[05:56] <NAiL> Noone that can help me figure out why the install-cd stops at "Starting kernel log"?
[05:57] <frogzoo> NAiL: unless you're an expert, if apt is segfaulting, your best way out is reinstall
[05:57] <burepe> DA_: thanks
[05:57] <goatmale> how do i uninstall a program say... XMMS?
[05:57] <LjL> shriphani: you don't have multiverse enabled. i'll fix it, but next time read the instructions more carefully ;-)  having multiverse enabled in dapper-backports is not quite the same thing as actually having it enabled.
[05:57] <shriphani> goatmale, sudo apt-get insall xmms ?
[05:57] <goatmale> uninstall
[05:57] <shriphani> ok LjL
[05:57] <pere> stefg: I am not sure all errors are showing here, becouse this is an install after I given up on raid....:-) Just by choosing to install it onto the first disk.
[05:57] <DA_> NAiL: you can also try grabbing the .deb directly and using dpkg -i to try to install it
[05:57] <shriphani> aptitude purge xmms
[05:58] <NAiL> frogzoo: Yeah, I will. As soon as I get my other box to work. This box is the only connection to the real world I've got. And that's *only* through ssh to another host :-P
[05:58] <LjL> shriphani: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18618
[05:58] <NAiL> DA_: yeah, if wget didn't segfault too, I'd try that ;)
[05:58] <DA_> NAiL: scp bro
[05:58] <clarity_> hrm
[05:58] <clarity_> libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6-15 is installed
[05:58] <NAiL> My filesystem was *seriously* screwed :(
[05:59] <clarity_> is there a way to downgrade the packages?
[05:59] <DA_> NAiL: ext3?
[05:59] <DA_> clarity_: thats what id like to know...
[05:59] <amarokker_> Hello all.
[05:59] <NAiL> DA_: yeah. The hdd got itself some bad blocks though...
[05:59] <amarokker_> does anyone here use wordpress-blogs?
[05:59] <clarity_> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[05:59] <DA_> NAiL: yea journalling filesystems dont mean much on a bad drive :p
[05:59] <frogzoo> NAiL: ide drive?
[05:59] <clarity_> is there a way to unhold packages?
[05:59] <NAiL> frogzoo: yeah
[06:00] <LjL> clarity_: try "sudo apt-get install libc6=2.3.6-0ubuntu20"
[06:00] <clarity_> or let go rather
[06:00] <frogzoo> NAiL: the drive's on its way out - get your data off it asap
[06:00] <amarokker_> cause i've been unable to do simple tasks such as inserting pics editing tags inside the editor- no matter which browser i am using
[06:00] <tigerspirit> how to make cupsd running by default during the boot in Ubuntu?
[06:00] <LjL> clarity_: even add a "--reinstall" to that one perhaps
[06:00] <NAiL> frogzoo: I know, but I need to get my other PC up so I can get my stuff of this laptop. Only the install CD doesn't work :(
[06:00] <amarokker_> could this problem be restricted to linux or something to do with the blogger itself?
[06:01] <stefg> pere: the good news is that the silraid module seems to load correctly, the other good news is that i just read acouple of threats about mysql on raid and people agree that softraid is the way to go. No raid-controller can have enough cache onboard, while using mainboard ram  as cache gives you endless possibilities
[06:01] <clarity_> eh... it's saying the deb's werent fully installed
[06:01] <clarity_> in theory this should be pretty easy to recover from
[06:02] <LjL> clarity_: no, it's not quite easy to downgrade stuff in general, from APT
[06:02] <clarity_> and that worked..
[06:02] <Mugatu> is anyone else having trouble connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com today?
[06:02] <frogzoo> clarity_: in theory, no, becauase apt relies on a working libc
[06:02] <clarity_> yeah.. a bit odd
[06:02] <clarity_> frogzoo: libc6 worked
[06:02] <LjL> Mugatu: yes
[06:02] <clarity_> it just had a higher version than the one it wanted
[06:02] <clarity_> so it wouldn't downgrade it
[06:02] <Mugatu> LjL: thanks, wondering if it was just me :)
[06:02] <frogzoo> clarity_: not if it's debian's libc
[06:03] <clarity_> frogzoo.. the diff was deb's is revision 15
[06:03] <pere> stefg: Thanks a lot. Maybe you are right, and I should just go for software raid.
[06:03] <clarity_> 2.6.0-0 <- ubuntu
[06:03] <clarity_> 2.6.0-15 <- deb
[06:03] <clarity_> it was just the package metadata that was messed up
[06:03] <frogzoo> clarity_: even at the same dot point, debian's libc is different from ubuntu's
[06:03] <Tommy2k4> ubuntu crashed for 2nd time within an hour o_o
[06:03] <pere> stefg: Do you have any of the links to mysql/raid?
[06:03] <Tommy2k4> this is getting bad :(
[06:03] <stefg> pere: but if you're really into it, join the mailing list and post your issue there again
[06:03] <clarity_> it works now...
[06:03] <stefg> pere: it's all german :-)
[06:03] <whatever> doesn't anyone have problem with the CD rom driver from the latest kernel? 2.6.15-26?  it seems that the CD freeze up the boot up for a very long while and I can't use the drive anymore...
[06:04] <clarity_> sudo apt-get install libc6=2.3.6-0ubuntu20 libc6-dev=2.3.6-0ubuntu20 <-- fixed it
[06:04] <nemlah> Hello all
[06:04] <frogzoo> clarity_: for the moment....but have fun anyhow
[06:04] <nemlah> I can't get my video card to work under dapper
[06:04] <nemlah> can anyone help me
[06:04] <LjL> !helpme
[06:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:05] <nemlah> hmm let me rephrase: how do i get my tv card to work under linux
[06:05] <nemlah> :)
[06:05] <erUSUL> nemlah: which video card?
[06:05] <clarity_> frogzoo.. naw it works fine, the only problem was apt-get
[06:05] <clarity_> I rebooted a couple times
[06:05] <erUSUL> nemlah: tv card or video card?
[06:05] <whatever> anyone have problems with CD rom driver in the lastest kernel?
[06:05] <nemlah> tv card
[06:05] <nemlah> sorry
[06:05] <LjL> nemlah: good that you rephrased, but still some more info would be nice. what card, what you have tried, what problems/errors it creates...
[06:06] <nemlah> ok
[06:06] <frogzoo> clarity_: well if you start seeing strange errors/failures, you'd do best to reinstall
[06:06] <clarity_> yeah
[06:06] <nemlah> let me be more verbose.. Haupauge wintv pci fm new chipset cx88
[06:06] <nemlah> tried to use tvtime which won't start and xawtv blackens the screens and i have to kill it
[06:07] <Gromet> hi, is the us.archives.ubuntu.com repo down?
[06:07] <frogzoo> Gromet: yes
[06:07] <Gromet> any idea when it'll be back up?
[06:07] <clarity_> is there a ubuntu repos for xen or vmware?
[06:07] <nemlah> from dmesg i have the following.. anywhere i should pase it?
[06:07] <nemlah> paste
[06:07] <DA_> !paste
[06:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:07] <LjL> !info vmware-player
[06:07] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[06:07] <LjL> clarity_: ^
[06:08] <DA_> nemlah: theres also always #flood
[06:08] <clarity_> hrm.. interesting
[06:08] <Gromet> clarity_, for vmware workstation, the regular download from their site works perfectly in ubuntu.. you just have to install your kernel-headers
[06:08] <clarity_> !info xen
[06:08] <nemlah> !paste
[06:08] <ubotu> Package xen does not exist in dapper
[06:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:08] <Warbo> !xen
[06:08] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
[06:08] <clarity_> Gromet: sweet thanks, I had trouble with it in debian
[06:08] <whatever> can anyone help me with the broken CD rom driver...
[06:09] <nemlah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18620
[06:09] <zalmoxes> i get this error        sys:1: PangoWarning: Error loading GPOS table 4097
[06:09] <whatever> it freezes the bootup. and I can't use it..
[06:09] <nemlah> thered you go my dmesg output
[06:09] <nemlah> what else do you gurus need..:)
[06:09] <Gromet> a working repo plz ;D
[06:09] <frogzoo> Gromet: s/us/au
[06:09] <Gromet> hopefully evertyings ok
[06:10] <zalmoxes> whats this error mean? sys:1: PangoWarning: Error loading GPOS table 4097
[06:10] <Warbo> Any way of changing the deskbar's fold-down menu thing's colour? White-on-white does not make for easy reading
[06:10] <Tommy2k4> ubuntu crashed twice in 5mins
[06:10] <Gromet> frogzoo, thanks that worked like a charm
[06:10] <nemlah> anyone looked at the paste? any pointers where i shoukld look?
[06:11] <nclife> the only way to get flashplayer working is installing it on windows firefox and simulating it with wine?
[06:11] <frogzoo> Gromet: nice
[06:11] <Warbo> !flash
[06:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:11] <NAiL> *sigh*
[06:11] <Warbo> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[06:11] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:11] <melle> hello, is it possible to play a .vob file (DVD) on Ubuntu?
[06:11] <stefg> Tommy2k4: that's really sad, have you tested your ram recently?
[06:11] <Tommy2k4> yep
[06:11] <nclife> thx
[06:12] <Tommy2k4> it flashes multicoloured lines then monitor gives the error freuqency out of range, 31khz/0hz
[06:12] <stefg> Tommy2k4: ati on 64bit ?
[06:12] <shriphani> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[06:12] <Tommy2k4> i810 on 733mhz p3
[06:13] <techrush> anyone got any ideas about this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220967 ?
[06:13] <frogzoo> Tommy2k4: but this was all working properly til recently? check /var/log/messages for errors (especially hard disk) & check your drive cables
[06:13] <shriphani> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[06:13] <shriphani> kernel?
[06:13] <stefg> Tommy2k4: I have a similiar system, and that never ever crashed up to now? bad blocks on hd?
[06:14] <pere> stefg: Thanks for all the good advice. Ive read a bit about mysql/software-hardware-raid, and found out that software raid would probably be just fine. Seems like Redhat ES4 would be the only alternative, and then I rather use my money on a second CPU that would more than solve the extra CPU load with using software raid.
[06:14] <frogzoo> Tommy2k4: might also be a good plan to reinstall vid driver, just to be safe
[06:14] <srikanth> I have installed xampp to learn php But its giving me some error saying that set up hostname.Do anyone knowhow to do that??
[06:14] <Tokeiito> good evening ppl
[06:14] <nemlah> added lspci output
[06:15] <frogzoo> pere: for a read only db, s/w raid's not an issue
[06:15] <Tokeiito> what is the best linux strategic game? (skipt mines and etc)
[06:15] <srikanth> any one know about xampp??
[06:15] <frogzoo> Tokeiito: lincity-ng's nice
[06:15] <frogzoo> Tokeiito: also consider nethack ;)
[06:15] <stefg> pere: exactly, that's the bottom line... host-CPU-cycles are cheap and available in ample quantity, controller CPU-cycles are expensive... and you defeat all the clever caching that the linux kernel does
[06:16] <kill4killin> hello all, im looking for advice on a wirless card brand that uses the known working cores for linux, can anyone point me to a particular card that is known to work well?
[06:16] <srikanth> I have installed xampp to learn php But its giving me some error saying that set up hostname.Do anyone knowhow to do that??
[06:16] <Tokeiito> frogzoo, thank you. will try these
[06:17] <frogzoo> Tokeiito: k, have fun
[06:17] <stefg> !wifi
[06:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[06:18] <frogzoo> !hardware > kill4killin
[06:18] <kill4killin> thank you
[06:19] <thrice`> where can I find refresh rates for my monitor laptop ?
[06:19] <clarity_> this is odd... rpm -i vmware is saying "/bin/sh needs to be installed"
[06:19] <zalmoxes> !hardware
[06:19] <nemlah> anyone experiences with tvcard setup under linux?
[06:19] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:19] <clarity_> but it's installed
[06:19] <clarity_> any clue?
[06:19] <kkubasik> hey, is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[06:19] <frogzoo> thrice`: manufacturer's site
[06:19] <goatmale> yes.
[06:19] <kkubasik> goatmale: thanks, any work on when it will return?
[06:20] <goatmale> I have no idea, some guy just said it was down, and it dosn't work for me so it must be
[06:20] <thrice`> frogzoo, that's what It hought, but nothing
[06:20] <frogzoo> clarity_: member what I said about strange errors?
[06:20] <melle> hello, is it possible to play a .vob file (DVD) on Ubuntu?
[06:20] <clarity_> frogzoo: I knew you were going to say that :-)
[06:20] <frogzoo> thrice`: usually google turns up something
[06:20] <stefg> melle: vlc can do that
[06:20] <dagrump_> looks like its been down awhile
[06:20] <frogzoo> clarity_: you must be telepathic
[06:21] <srikanth> can any one tell about xamp
[06:21] <frogzoo> clarity_: dpkg -S /bin/sh
[06:21] <srikanth> have installed xampp in order to learn php.But its giving me some error saying that set up hostname.Do u know haow to do that??
[06:21] <melle> stefg: do i need to ajust the kernel if i want to install vlc? i heard something like that
[06:21] <stefg> http://nightlies.videolan.org has the latest vlc and instructions on how to install it
[06:21] <scifi> is there a linux alternative to dvd shrink, and is it as fast ?
[06:21] <srikanth> melle, nothing like that
[06:22] <melle> srikanth: cool thanks
[06:22] <clarity_> bash: /bin/sh
[06:22] <stefg> melle: and no, you don't have to tweak the kernel.. you just need the codecs
[06:22] <stefg> !codecs
[06:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:22] <lassegs> bastianbastianbastianbastianbastian.jess
[06:22] <frogzoo> clarity_: hmm... maybe vmware wants a real sh, not a symlink to bash? dunno, read the vmware docs
[06:22] <frogzoo> !vmware
[06:22] <srikanth> have installed xampp in order to learn php.But its giving me some error saying that set up hostname.Do u know haow to do that??
[06:22] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[06:23] <flemingg> hello
[06:23] <melle> ok thanks again :)
[06:23] <clarity_> it's just rpm
[06:23] <Che> hi :)
[06:23] <clarity_> I'm using the .tar.gz
[06:23] <Che> for ubuntu it?
[06:23] <GaryFl> Hey
[06:23] <gatekeeper> !vim > gatekeeper
[06:24] <zazeem> hi i need help. I am the administrator under ubuntu well i am the only user and i cant get into some folders to move things around, i also cant change prmissios on the folders
[06:25] <stefg> !sudo > zazeem
[06:25] <Che> !vim
[06:25] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[06:25] <gatekeeper> zazeem: are you using sudo?
[06:25] <frogzoo> zazeem: some folders you can't move because you're not supposed to, which folders you mean?
[06:26] <Ivanov> hello
[06:26] <zazeem> there is a game i installed, it needs updates and i cant put them in the folder i drag them in and it says i dont have permission
[06:26] <Ivanov> i need help about x
[06:26] <scifi> is there a linux alternative to dvd shrink, and is it as fast ?
[06:26] <zazeem> im draging im not using sudo
[06:26] <santa99> i have a problem with the shutdown under ubuntu. When i want to shutdown my computer i starts to shutdown but hangs at Will now halt. Any ideas about how to fix it
[06:26] <gatekeeper> zazeem: using gui or cli?
[06:26] <zazeem> huh?
[06:26] <srikanth> Ivanov, check the permissions of that folders
[06:26] <zazeem> whats that
[06:27] <frogzoo> zazeem: typicallys it's a bad idea to run the gui as root - you're best to use 'sudo mv'
[06:27] <SpookyET> hi
[06:27] <Ivanov> srikanth but i did't tell you my trouble yet
[06:27] <SpookyET> Does anyone have a deb of GnomeBaker?
[06:27] <zazeem> whats the command to move stuff?
[06:27] <santa99> no ideas about my shutdown problems ?
[06:27] <frogzoo> SpookyET: apt-cache search baker
[06:27] <pdavid> morning all
[06:27] <pdavid> how do i edit the system menu entries in dapper?
[06:27] <zazeem> sudo mv then what?
[06:27] <clarity_> I'll bbl
[06:27] <SpookyET> I can't update the repository list.  I keep getting connection timed out.  So, I need a deb.
[06:27] <Keis> Evening :)
[06:28] <gatekeeper> morning pdavid
[06:28] <pdavid> (or evening for some ;) )
[06:28] <stefg> santa99: what hardware/mainboard/cpu
[06:28] <Keis> :)
[06:28] <profoX`> santa99: probably a problem caused by your motherboard/bios
[06:28] <frogzoo> SpookyET: the us repos are down - use au maybe
[06:28] <_trick> hi, I installed ubuntu on an amd 64 machine and I've tried to download the universe and mulitiverse packages but all I get is a gzip error
[06:28] <_trick> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[06:28] <profoX`> santa99: you can just shutdown the computer when it says: will now halt
[06:28] <_trick> and same for multiverse
[06:29] <santa99> profoX`, i have to push the power button when it says will now halt
[06:29] <zazeem> frogzoo: whats the cmd to move a file into a folder on my hard drive?
[06:29] <stefg> _trick: some mirrors are down atm
[06:29] <frogzoo> santa99: I'm thinking this pc is maybe 5 years old?
[06:29] <santa99> profoX`, no it is a 2 year old laptop
[06:29] <profoX`> santa99: i know, that's okay.. that's probably because you have an oldskool motherboard/bios :)
[06:29] <_trick> stefg: thanks, will it be fixed soon?
[06:29] <GaryFl> !mv > zazeem
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about mv  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:29] <Ivanov> can somebody help me to start x, please
[06:29] <enyc> Ivanov: has X stopped working recently?
[06:30] <santa99> profoX`, is there a way to fix this ?
[06:30] <srikanth> zazeem, just use cp
[06:30] <frogzoo> Ivanov: did you do the desktop install?
[06:30] <stefg> _trick: no idea... the us-mirrors are down as i hear, mine is working fine
[06:30] <GaryFl> zazeem: mv <file> <folder>
[06:30] <profoX`> santa99: i don't know if it can be fixed, but i've heard this problem exists on more pc's.. it's related to the motherboard/bios
[06:30] <santa99> ok
[06:30] <SpookyET> frogzoo: au is up
[06:30] <frogzoo> SpookyET: yes
[06:30] <JPatch> all: what repository can I find flashplugin-nonfree in?
[06:30] <santa99> profoX`, so that means i have to live with it
[06:30] <_trick> How would I tell it to use the canadian mirrors
[06:30] <gatekeeper> zazeem: thsi make any sence to you? http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[06:30] <zazeem> thnx
[06:30] <santa99> profoX`, thx for the information
[06:30] <SpookyET> frogzoo: Is there a ca or eu?
[06:30] <whatever> any CD rom kernel driver problem lately?  my system freezes for a very very long time to boot during boot up... it traced back to the loading of CD driver
[06:31] <profoX`> santa99: does dmesg|grep [iI] [rR] [qQ]  tell you something about disabled IRQ's or something very strange about IRQ's? maybe paste the output on www.pastebin.ca
[06:31] <frogzoo> SpookyET: dunno
[06:31] <trevor> pdavid: do you have Alcacarte Menu Editor?
[06:31] <stefg> !easysource > _trick
[06:31] <zazeem> garyfl: do i use the carrots too?
[06:31] <pdavid> trevor: no, i dont need it, do i?
[06:31] <santa99> profoX`, ok will try
[06:31] <trevor> i think so
[06:31] <pdavid> trevor: i have no problems doing it by hand
[06:31] <trevor> pdavid: ok...but this app works fine for me
[06:32] <whatever> at the end it said cdrom open failed
[06:32] <pdavid> trevor: i appreciate it, but i shouldnt need another app just to edit a simple menu ;)  was hoping there was an easy way someone knew about
[06:32] <santa99> profoX`, http://pastebin.ca/96032
[06:32] <frogzoo> whatever: I'm thinking you're running a 686 kernel?
[06:32] <trevor> pdavid: oh....i understand
[06:32] <whatever> yes...
[06:32] <whatever> frogzoo: yes
[06:32] <scifi> hi guys, whats the best software for ripping dvds ?
[06:32] <stefg> !best
[06:32] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:32] <profoX`> whatever: i run the 686 kernel too, everything works fine here (p4 1800mhz)
[06:33] <frogzoo> whatever: try the 386 & see if you're problem goes away - then update the bug info for the open bug at launchpad
[06:33] <gatekeeper> !rip
[06:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about rip - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:33] <GaryFl> Have a problem: Whenever I try to build a certain driver, I get this "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-generic/build: No such file or directory.". How do I fix this?
[06:33] <JPatch> hey all: need help with finding the flash plugin for mozilla.  what repositories should I be using?
[06:34] <profoX`> santa99: doesn't seem *too* weird, but you have a few very high IRQ addresses, that's quite strange, but that shouldn't give a problem afaik
[06:34] <SpookyET> frogzoo: eu and ca exist
[06:34] <profoX`> JPatch: universe or multiverse
[06:34] <SpookyET> the probably have one for every major country/continent
[06:34] <santa99> profoX`, so no idea about my problem
[06:34] <frogzoo> stefg: poo - best music player = amarok, best burner = k3b, best gui = gnome etc :)
[06:34] <profoX`> JPatch: enable them in synaptic and then do: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:34] <stefg> JPatch: you need universe... got 64 bit? you need a prayer :-)
[06:34] <khoda> Hey guys. First time linux user. I pop in the CD, it goes through the loading process then it takes me to the next screen. An orangeish ubuntu logo is in the middle of the screen (the graphics look choppy) and there's a maroon background. It just hangs there. I think it might be a gfx problem. Any ideas?
[06:35] <profoX`> khoda: how much RAM does that pc have?
[06:35] <JPatch> i believeI have all of the ubuntu ones set
[06:35] <gatekeeper> JPatch: multiverse
[06:35] <myk> are there any easy to read/follow sites out there that detail how to get my wireless nic to work with linux?
[06:35] <profoX`> khoda: the desktop (live) cd needs at least 192 or preferably 256 MB ram, otherwise use the Alternate installation cd
[06:35] <JPatch> asin: i386 (praise be to baby jesus) I'm sure I have it ready for multiverse
[06:36] <profoX`> khoda: could also be that the cd is corrupted, try burning it at a low speed, it's very sensitive
[06:36] <profoX`> JPatch: what does sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree tell you?
[06:36] <stefg> best poser and 'interface-nazi' (this is a quote fom Linus Torvalds) = frogzoo
[06:36] <espectro> hey guys i have an amd64 but i am using the 32 bit version. if i put amd64 as processor when compiling my own kernel will it be 64 bit or 32 bit?
[06:36] <profoX`> santa99: well.. i don't know what you can do
[06:36] <JPatch> profoX: can't find package
[06:36] <frogzoo> stefg: wow - flamed by torvalds - I have sooo arrived....
[06:36] <profoX`> JPatch: then you don't have the repository enabled
[06:37] <zukalk> does anyone know how to give the mic input a REAL boost? that damn Mic Boost (+20dB) won't help, or barely will
[06:37] <profoX`> JPatch: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_apt-get_the_easy_way_.28Synaptic.29
[06:37] <scifi> anyone know of a good app to backup a DVD ?
[06:37] <stefg> !repos > JPatch
[06:37] <profoX`> !repos
[06:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:37] <billybennett> scifi, what kinda backup?
[06:37] <profoX`> oh there's an official page
[06:38] <billybennett> scifi, check out K9Copy its by far the easiest
[06:38] <stefg> !info dvdrip
[06:38] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[06:38] <scifi> billybennett: in .vob format so a proper DVD can be burnt from it
[06:38] <scifi> billybennett: thx, will check it out
[06:38] <billybennett> scifi, K9Copy leaves you with audio and video folders and it automatically opens K3B for burning the dvd
[06:38] <GaryFl> anyone help with my build problem?
[06:39] <scifi> billybennett: thx, sounds good
[06:39] <JPatch> hold on all... dling package info as we speak...
[06:39] <profoX`> santa99: which kernel are you running
[06:39] <arcade> I'm having a bit of trouble installing mplayer.  The problem is that I'm using AMD64, and the mplayer-amd64 package isn't compatible with the codecs. :)
[06:39] <profoX`> santa99: 686? 386? k7?
[06:39] <santa99> profoX`, i have to get a look
[06:40] <hapka> I am having trouble with my work spaces. I did a search on Ubuntu's site: Title Search: "workspace"   0 results of about 12164 pages. (0.38 seconds). Does anyone know how to move windows around in the work space - I also tried looking for workspace tutorials and found 0.
[06:40] <profoX`> arcade: bad luck, if you're talking about the w32codecs..
[06:40] <arcade> profoX`: I am.
[06:40] <arcade> profoX`: I need to compile mplayer for 32bits, instead of 64bits.
[06:40] <santa99> profoX`, 2.6.15-26-386
[06:40] <arcade> profoX`: But I'm unable to do that too. :-/
[06:40] <scifi> billybennett: its a KDE app, i assume it will still work ok under xfce ?
[06:40] <profoX`> arcade: ofcourse, because you run 64bit OS
[06:40] <billybennett> If you have a 64bit processor do you have to use everything 64bit?  I find that everything is under developed
[06:40] <myk> anyone know of an easy to read/follow site that'll detail how to get my linksys wireless nic to work in linux?
[06:40] <arcade> profoX`: uhm.  /lib32 and /usr/lib32 DO exist on ubuntu ;)
[06:41] <profoX`> arcade: maybe install ubuntu 32bit, it's more compatible with everything (flash, w32codecs)
[06:41] <billybennett> scifi, I havent a clue I use default gnome and it works great
[06:41] <scifi> k
[06:41] <zalmoxes> how do i install vmware?
[06:41] <hapka> n/m found it with left click :)
[06:41] <scifi> billybennett: is it reasonably quick ?
[06:41] <profoX`> arcade: yes you can do things like that, and try chrooting and stuff.. but i don't run 64bit.. so i'm not into that yet
[06:41] <juice> hey people I need some help
[06:41] <JPatch> eh... there we go...thanks for your help, all
[06:41] <frogzoo> !helpme
[06:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:42] <profoX`> santa99: what processor do you have?
[06:42] <juice> When I have my tv connected my monitor displays very bright and I barely could make out anything, how can I fix this?
[06:42] <billybennett> scifi, K9Copy is surprisingly quick I found.... you just need to select the largest folder + which audio you want and maybe subtitles
[06:42] <billybennett> scifi, if you need any help with it I can help you
[06:42] <arcade> profoX`: ah, right. :)  You don't need to chroot, you only needs to pass the correct options to gcc and ld, but it seems that /usr/lib32/libc.so is missing. :-/
[06:42] <gatekeeper> !vmware > zalmoxes
[06:42] <scifi> billybennett: ok thanks, im gonna try copying one now.
[06:42] <arcade> profoX`: which of course is a pain ;)
[06:43] <billybennett> scifi, you need k3b if you dont already have that
[06:43] <santa99> profoX`, Intel Pentium M 1.73 MHz , don't know the exact model name
[06:43] <santa99> profoX`, Dothan
[06:43] <profoX`> santa99: maybe try the 686 kernel, it should be a little bit faster, and -maybe- it will solve the problem too
[06:43] <goatmale> how do I run a program I downloaded from the internet?
[06:43] <profoX`> because it has some optimizations for 686 processors (pentium m is 686)
[06:43] <goatmale> in terminal
[06:44] <scifi> billybennett: erm not sure, is that the burner app. ?
[06:44] <santa99> profoX`, ok how do i get this ?
[06:44] <billybennett> scifi, yes sudo apt-get install k3b
[06:44] <frogzoo> goatmale: read the app's README or INSTALL file
[06:44] <gavagai> what is the fastest/lightest gui browser?
[06:44] <santa99> profoX`, do i have to compile it myself ?
[06:44] <scifi> k
[06:44] <profoX`> santa99: no
[06:44] <profoX`> santa99: hold on
[06:44] <stefg> gavagai: gnome-terminal
[06:44] <santa99> profoX`, what do i have to do
[06:45] <Tommy2k4> yey the crash i keep getting is now reproducable
[06:45] <darius_> repositories now?
[06:45] <darius_> down?
[06:45] <sponix> billybennett:  k9copy will let you remaster your dvd's ? like just getting the main title, and dropping extra audio (languages) ?
[06:45] <gavagai> stefg, umm...
[06:45] <scifi> billybennett: installing now
[06:45] <gavagai> gnome-terminal is a gui web browser?
[06:45] <stefg> so far for the 'what's the best...'-department
[06:45] <zukalk> gavagai: try epiphany-browser. opera is quite fast too, even though it's one of the most powerful browsers there is
[06:45] <billybennett> sponix, you can pick and choose everything.. you can keep original menus... you can select which subtitle languages.. which audio be it dts,2ch or 6ch etc.
[06:45] <profoX`> santa99: i think it is enough to do sudo apt-get install linux-686 but be sure the restricted-modules-686 get installed as a dependancy, check that
[06:45] <gavagai> zukalk, thank you
[06:46] <profoX`> santa99: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[06:46] <scifi> billybennett: can u rip video-only, no menus?
[06:46] <billybennett> scifi, yes thats what I do
[06:46] <scifi> :)
[06:46] <sponix> billybennett:  I feel stupid for using dvdshrink then ... should I ?
[06:46] <scifi> billybennett: best for quality
[06:46] <scifi> sponix: thats for windows
[06:46] <djebola> Hi, I am having problems understanding the arr/remove programs system.
[06:47] <billybennett> do what?!
[06:47] <profoX`> santa99: i think you can also "sudo apt-get remove linux-386" after you succeeded in booting the 686 version
[06:47] <gavagai> i need a fast browser.  trying to buy tickets on ticketmaster and want to use a bunch of different computers remotely.  :)
[06:47] <stefg> gavagai: links2 -g would be very lightweight too
[06:47] <GaryFl> exit
[06:47] <gatekeeper> gavagai: gnome-terminal is used for the <C>ommand <L>ine <I>nterpretor
[06:47] <profoX`> santa99: otherwise you'll always have both the 386 and 686 as an update..
[06:47] <scifi> sponix: dont tell me ur trying to run dvshrink under wine? cus that must be VERY slow
[06:47] <billybennett> sponix, I dont know much about DVDshrink
[06:48] <scifi> billybennett: DVDshrink is a very popular dvd backup app. for windows
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> djebola:  whats the problem
[06:48] <billybennett> scifi, I've heard of it but when I used windows I only used Nero Vision
[06:48] <gavagai> gatekeeper, i know!
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> I used dvdshrink 3.2
[06:48] <santa99> profoX`, I see. Will try this method maybe it works
[06:48] <profoX`> there's also xdvdshrink for linux.. maybe that's any good
[06:48] <djebola> Jack_Sparrow: All of the uninstalled programs say that they are unavailable in any software channel
[06:49] <billybennett> I tell you though, K9Copy is very very very easy
[06:49] <scifi> billybennett: ok k3b completed installing. so just pop dvd in drive  now ?
[06:49] <gavagai> i like links a lot but i'm worried it will choke on their stupid flashy site so i'm going to use remote X
[06:49] <billybennett> scifi, you already installed k9copy right?
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> dje I just used synaptic to get k9copy and it was fine
[06:49] <scifi> billybennett: yes m8
[06:49] <nemlah> Any tvcard experts among us??
[06:49] <billybennett> scifi, put DVD in and hit open
[06:50] <profoX`> http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/ or search for k9copy, my friend says thats good but i dont rip dvds so i dont know
[06:50] <djkoelkast> hi there
[06:50] <djkoelkast> could anybody help me out on ubuntu on PCI IDE devices?
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> K9copy was in the repos
[06:50] <djkoelkast> trying to install and it doesn't work :(
[06:50] <goatmale> does sudo apt-get update still not work?
[06:50] <profoX`> djkoelkast: that depends, just ask the question
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> gotta run, back ilater..
[06:50] <scifi> billybennett: ok it seems to be analyzing now
[06:50] <gnomefreak> !info k9copy
[06:51] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 288 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[06:51] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: still is
[06:51] <profoX`> !info xdvdshrink
[06:51] <ubotu> Package xdvdshrink does not exist in dapper
[06:51] <profoX`> :(
[06:51] <djkoelkast> I have 4 different IDE controllers (PCI as the server doesn't have IDE on board and I don't have SCSI harddisks) and I cannot boot from cd, so I boot from floppy, install and get lots of trouble
[06:51] <djkoelkast> sometimes GRUB errors (error 2, error 16)
[06:51] <djkoelkast> with LILO I get L 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 errors
[06:51] <billybennett> scifi, find the largest title and unselect everything but that and the video, audio or subtitles you want
[06:52] <djkoelkast> with another PCI card it doens't detect harddisk during install
[06:52] <thrice`> what should my touchpad be in xorg.conf ?
[06:52] <scifi> billybennett: as soon as i clicked open it started analyzing the whole disk itself
[06:52] <djkoelkast> when trying to compile driver from the manufacturer it gives errors
[06:52] <scifi> billybennett: its on title 8 now
[06:52] <stefg> djkoelkast: the BIOS and grub can't agree over the proper C/H/S geometry... update to the newest bios and set LBA for all disks
[06:52] <djkoelkast> I thought the 6.06 would have support for the IT8212F chipset
[06:53] <billybennett> scifi, yep and when its done you'll need to select what you want
[06:53] <sponix> scifi profoX` : yeah, I've been running dvdshrink under wine :(
[06:53] <scifi> billybennett: ok ic
[06:53] <djkoelkast> I have the latest BIOS
[06:53] <djkoelkast> it's a Dell bios so it doesn't speak about LBA
[06:53] <sponix> profoX`:  have you ran the xdvdshrink version ?
[06:53] <scifi> sponix: lol, isnt that REALLY slow ?
[06:53] <billybennett> sponix, doh! K9Copy is super easy lol
[06:53] <profoX`> sponix: no
[06:54] <nootrope> howdy, folks. can i somehow use my iPod with Ubuntu?
[06:54] <Paladine> !restricted > Paladine
[06:54] <profoX`> xdvdshrink seems to be quite good though, it's NOT dvdshrink, but it is supposed to look like it
[06:54] <frogzoo> !ipod
[06:54] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[06:54] <scifi> billybennett: on average how many of these "titles" are there on a DVD ?
[06:54] <djkoelkast> the strange thing is Fedora will boot on the cards
[06:54] <djkoelkast> but I don't want Fedora, I want Ubuntu :P
[06:54] <billybennett> scifi, ALOT depending on how many damn previews they put in it or special features
[06:54] <nootrope> thanks frogzoo!
[06:54] <stefg> djkoelkast: paste your sudo fdisk -l output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:54] <scifi> billybennett: DOH
[06:54] <frogzoo> nootrope: yw
[06:55] <scifi> billybennett: alot, like 20 or more ?
[06:55] <billybennett> scifi, depends on the dvd
[06:55] <bigfoot1> is it easy to turn a tar.bz2 file into a reg .tar?
[06:55] <scifi> billybennett: on title 13 now
[06:55] <dr_willis_> bunzip whatever
[06:55] <trevor> What is a good app for converting AVI files to DVD format?
[06:55] <djkoelkast> stefg: it doesn't boot, so I can't paste anything
[06:55] <scifi> billybennett: 14.....
[06:56] <billybennett> trevor, tovid
[06:56] <stefg> djkoelkast: which CD are you trying?
[06:56] <djkoelkast> no cd, it won't boot from cd
[06:56] <sponix> billybennett:  its not reading my dvd's right now, says cannot open main ifo file
[06:56] <scifi> billybennett: 15.....lol
[06:56] <trevor> billybennett: thanks...i will try it out
[06:56] <bigfoot1> is there any risk if i put 3 .tar files into a .tar file?
[06:56] <djkoelkast> I boot from network installation floppy
[06:56] <billybennett> trevor, you need to get the .28 version not in the repos
[06:56] <goatmale> how come make never works for me?
[06:56] <sponix> billybennett:  what do you do to start k9copy ?
[06:57] <stefg> djkoelkast: have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto ?
[06:57] <bigfoot1> when i say risk , i mean risk of data corruption.
[06:57] <gavagai> bigfoot1, i don't think so
[06:57] <gavagai> not sure though
[06:57] <djkoelkast> and it does install, partition (with the SIL 0680A chipset), with the IT8212F it says no disk drive detected
[06:57] <scifi> billybennett: 17......
[06:57] <billybennett> I made a shortcut that just runs the command k9copy
[06:57] <djkoelkast> yes I tried and it doesn't work
[06:57] <gavagai> tar has been around forever so it should handle that
[06:57] <djkoelkast> gives no CD drives, on all other drives I try it gives an error
[06:58] <djkoelkast> booting/installing from floppy is no problem
[06:58] <gnomefreak> goatmale: what do you mean doesnt work?
[06:58] <djkoelkast> but first boot doesn't work
[06:58] <bigfoot1> How do i  turn a tar.bz2 file into a reg .tar?
[06:58] <djkoelkast> grub or lilo errors
[06:58] <dr_willis_> bigfoot1,  uncompress it with that bunzip program
[06:58] <scifi> billybennett: ok its finished analyzing, and it now lists the contents of the dvd
[06:58] <enyc> bigfoot1: bunzip2
[06:58] <NAiL> bunzip2
[06:58] <sponix> billybennett:  but how do you fire it up, do you put a dvd in first, and your sys automounts it, or what ?
[06:58] <gnomefreak> dr_willis_: bunzip or gunzip?
[06:59] <dr_willis_> gunzip = .gz
[06:59] <dr_willis_> unzip = .zip
[06:59] <gnomefreak> ah
[06:59] <bigfoot1> dr_willis_: oh i realized you said bunzip a few lines above, but i did'nt know you were addressing me.
[06:59] <billybennett> sponix, you need to make a new launcher running the command k9copy
[06:59] <dr_willis_> :P dont get the 2 missed up.. like i did.. took 2 hrs of trouble shooting to realize i was cornfused
[06:59] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:59] <sponix> billybennett:  I've got the freaking k9copy program open, I'm just trying to make it do something ! ;)
[06:59] <gnomefreak> dr_willis_: been there already :(
[06:59] <dr_willis_> i need to track down that 'unpackthedangfile' script i had once.
[06:59] <billybennett> sponix, put in dvd and hit open
[07:00] <sponix> billybennett:  did that, get cannot read main ifo file -- thought I said that :)
[07:00] <scifi> billybennett: what i do now? it finished analyzing
[07:00] <bbrazil> dr_willis_: I think there's a script for that in ubuntu somewhere
[07:00] <mDot> I have a volume that is listed as MEDIA, I'd like it to read Media. fstab has it listed properly, its just in all caps for some reason everywhere else. any ideas?
[07:00] <billybennett> sponix, try another DVD
[07:00] <sponix> billybennett:  same thing, already tried that also
[07:00] <djkoelkast> really tried everything and can't fix it :(
[07:00] <sponix> billybennett:  my sys isn't automounting the dvd's right now, that have something to do with it ?
[07:00] <billybennett> sponix, I have no idea then sorry
[07:01] <billybennett> sponix, could be
[07:01] <scifi> billybennett: Help!
[07:01] <billybennett> scifi, unselect everything but the largest title
[07:01] <bahadirt> !gnome
[07:01] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[07:01] <djkoelkast> anybody else an idea??
[07:01] <scifi> billybennett: how do i know which is largest ?
[07:01] <profoX`> santa99: any luck ? you might also want to try to check your BIOS and check if "power management" is on or off
[07:01] <billybennett> scifi, it should say size in mb
[07:02] <profoX`> santa99: the problem might be caused by the usplash on shutdown too, in combination with your videodrivers, what videocard do you have? and finally, maybe it's an ACPI bios problem, please tell me which laptop you have?
[07:02] <gatekeeper> djkoelkast: dual boot?
[07:03] <scifi> billybennett: Titles 1 & 2 are both 4.4 gig
[07:03] <bahadirt> !clamav
[07:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about clamav - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:03] <stefg> djkoelkast: have you tried a floppy with smartbootmanager to get to boot from CD?
[07:03] <billybennett> scifi, preview using the preview button to figure out which one you need
[07:04] <profoX`> santa99: also: "If you own a Nvidia FX5900 or a 5700 card (but not only) you might be affected by a bug which prevents (or shows buggy graphics when) users from logging out, switching to another user, shutting down or changing to a console (ALT-(F1-6))" do you have such card?
[07:05] <distanceisdeath> how can i install fluxbox
[07:05] <scifi> billybennett: is it the "play title" camera button ?
[07:05] <billybennett> yeah
[07:05] <djkoelkast> gatekeeper: no dual boot, new harddisk
[07:05] <djkoelkast> stefg: yes I tried and it doesn't work
[07:05] <trev__> whenever i try to reload repositories in synaptic 12 out of 14 of them load and then it hangs and i have to cancel and i get the message "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg
[07:05] <trev__> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/Release.gpg
[07:05] <tdn> I think something is wrong with my codecs. When I play video my machine becomes slow and the sound/video come out of sync. It should not be because of hardware. I don't usually have any trouble playing video.
[07:05] <trev__> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release.gpg"
[07:05] <trev__> what do i do
[07:05] <stefg> !fluxbox > distanceisdeath
[07:06] <stefg> djkoelkast: doesn't work means what? be more precise
[07:06] <djkoelkast> but booting from CD is not the issue, the issue is not booting after install
[07:06] <darius_> I think a repository (or more) is down
[07:07] <scifi> billybennett: the preview box opens up, but nothing happens
[07:07] <stefg> djkoelkast: but you need a working Live CD to diagnose and fix the problem
[07:07] <djkoelkast> stefg: when loading SBM it gives a list: reboot, HD0, HD1, HD2, HD3 etc. gives no cd drives and I tried every HDx-option there was and none booted
[07:07] <AngryElf> how do i share my printer to another ubuntu machine?
[07:07] <gatekeeper> djkoelkast: I recently had a new maxtor that was broken, try badblocks on your hard disk
[07:07] <trev__> if a repository is down will that keep my computer from getting security updates from other repositorys?
[07:07] <santa99> profoX`, sorry was eating
[07:07] <billybennett> select a video in the title
[07:07] <sponix> billybennett:  I restarted the computer and it seems to work now, something was messing up my dvd access
[07:07] <santa99> profoX`, no i have a ATI Mobility X700
[07:07] <djkoelkast> gatekeeper: when I put the same harddisk in another pc ubuntu will boot
[07:07] <billybennett> scifi, select a video from one of the 4gb titles
[07:08] <djkoelkast> the problem is the PCI IDE card
[07:08] <darius_> trev__: it could - but the downtime won't last long enough to really matter
[07:08] <stefg> djkoelkast: so where is the CD-drive connected physically?
[07:08] <sponix> scifi:  yeah, dvdshrink through wine is slow, but it works ;)
[07:08] <djkoelkast> tried on every port, even on another card, primary master, secondary master
[07:08] <gatekeeper> djkoelkast: answered you own question :-)
[07:08] <djkoelkast> I have no IDE on the motherboard
[07:08] <trev__> ok, and can anyone tell me if i need a firewall if im behind a NAT
[07:08] <scifi> billybennett: hmmm, its strange the video from the largest 2 titles is 0mb, only the audio has a file size
[07:09] <profoX`> santa99: oh i had a mobility x700 too, it worked fine on my laptop (but the laptop is broken lol) what laptop is it
[07:09] <billybennett> can you show me a screenshot?
[07:09] <djkoelkast> gatekeeper: I want a solution because this is my server (dell poweredge) and want to run it on the server, not on a single cpu pc
[07:09] <santa99> profoX`, Chiligreen M400A
[07:09] <santa99> profoX`, it is a reseller
[07:09] <profoX`> santa99: oh.. then i suppose it is hard to find information about it + linux
[07:10] <darius_> trev__: in practicallity no - it can't hurt though, especially if you don't maintain security updates
[07:10] <billybennett> scifi, can you show me a screenshot and I can show you how
[07:10] <trev__> whats a good one and will it slow donw my internet conection
[07:10] <djkoelkast> isn't there a simple diskette-based solution for the grub 16 problem or the lilo L 99 99 99 problem?
[07:10] <gatekeeper> djkoelkast: from everthing you are saying it sounds like you need a new motherboard and/or PCI IDE card
[07:11] <santa99> profoX`, yeah thats the problem the next time i will buy a mark book
[07:11] <darius_> trev__: I've never looked for one - it shouldn't slow anything down
[07:11] <scifi> billybennett: yes, 1 sec
[07:11] <sponix> billybennett:  can you cut intro/previews && credits off the start/end of a title in k9copy ?
[07:11] <trev__> and can anyone tell me what is in the backports repository
[07:11] <djkoelkast> gatekeeper: I have 3 new IDE cards, the chipsets aren't supported by ubuntu somehow, new motherboard is no option and Fedora runs fine on this system
[07:11] <sponix> billybennett:  thats something that spoiled me, I kill the previews, menus, and credits, so my son doesn't get bored
[07:11] <billybennett> sponix, you can select now to include those titles
[07:11] <profoX`> santa99: ibm thinkpads play nice with linux :)
[07:11] <profoX`> i purchased one of those
[07:12] <croftyboy_31> hi i am trying to print a pdf off a map , i want to be able to print it too size A2 on A4 paper having no luck ?
[07:12] <santa99> profoX`, heard hp plays nice with linux too
[07:12] <billybennett> sponix, I'm not to sure about credits because I thought that was part of the video file itself... K9Copy is like 4 clicks done but its not a video editor
[07:12] <croftyboy_31> can any1 help please
[07:12] <djkoelkast> will be back later
[07:12] <profoX`> santa99: guess so, i am thinking about buying a HP, even though it looks a bit not-so-strong :) (the material of the notebook)
[07:12] <sponix> billybennett:  it does shrink 8gig disc down to 4 though ?
[07:13] <santa99> profoX`, what do you think about Sony and Linux ?
[07:13] <scifi> billybennett: cant get imageshack to work, i press "host" it after browsing to the screenshot and it just reloads home page
[07:13] <darius_> trev__: generically - versions of software that weren't available when your version of Ubuntu released.  Usually you wait to gain access to these packages until the next release (6 month intervals) of Ubuntu.  You get to have early access with backports
[07:13] <billybennett> scifi, imageshack is being weird today
[07:13] <stingerx52> Pleasem how to install the Korama themes?
[07:13] <billybennett> sponix, I've backed up like 60+ dvds
[07:13] <profoX`> santa99: i don't know ? i don't know anyone with a sony :)
[07:13] <trev__> ok thx
[07:13] <billybennett> sponix, so I suppose
[07:14] <sponix> billybennett:  ok, thanks for all your help man
[07:14] <billybennett> np sponix
[07:14] <sponix> that google picasa though wine doesn't do to bad either guys :)
[07:14] <santa99> profoX`, they have some nice books at the moment
[07:14] <sponix> I figured it would drag ass, but it does pretty well
[07:14] <scifi> billybennett: here we are - http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/2237/k9copyxo0.png
[07:14] <santa99> profoX`, the next time i will look for linux support and then i will buy the book ^^
[07:14] <RJporra> Buffer I/O error on device dm-0 :Logical Block XXXXX ( a number that i dont remenber )
[07:15] <RJporra> ata2 translated ata stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0X3/11104
[07:15] <RJporra> occured on installation of ubuntu
[07:15] <RJporra> help
[07:15] <billybennett> scifi, scroll down thats audio
[07:15] <billybennett> scifi, look for the video
[07:16] <profoX`> santa99: me too :)
[07:16] <ironfroggy> any known reason why us.archive.ubuntu.com is not responding? i can ping it, but i cant make any http connections.
[07:17] <Toaste> aha, a clue
[07:17] <scifi> billybennett: yes i clicked the video too
[07:17] <croftyboy_31> can anyone help please , I am trying to print a pdf of a map , i want to be able to print as poster size A2 on A4 paper having no luck ?Deskjet 845c.
[07:17] <billybennett> just highlight video and select preview
[07:17] <billybennett> scifi, just highlight video and select preview
[07:17] <billybennett> !sources
[07:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:18] <billybennett> !easysource
[07:18] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:18] <scifi> billybennett: still nothing plays :(
[07:18] <billybennett> scifi, what kinda dvd is that?
[07:19] <scifi> billybennett: Region-2 PAL
[07:19] <Toaste> ironfroggy -- not sure why, but I can't get breezy updates at the moment
[07:19] <ironfroggy> ill assume its not just me then
[07:19] <ironfroggy> Toaste: can you browse to us.archive.ubuntu.com successfully?
[07:20] <trev__> if i go into synaptic once i need to put in my password, then it dosen't require it,isn't that a security risk?
[07:20] <scifi> billybennett: do i need a mpeg-2 codec installed or somit ?
[07:20] <frogzoo> Toaste: us repos are down
[07:20] <billybennett> scifi, no it would of required it for the install of k9
[07:20] <ironfroggy> are they down for scheduled reasons for is something wrong?
[07:21] <Toaste> it pings but won't load in browser
[07:21] <frogzoo> trev__: it will time out eventually
[07:21] <scifi> billybennett: i gotta go and fetch a meal, bbs
[07:21] <billybennett> scifi, okay
[07:21] <winman> seems like my firewall isn't allowing incoming ssh connections, is there a GUI tool through which I could access the firewall?
[07:21] <Ropechoborra> How do i load a movie's subtitles ??
[07:22] <Toaste> okay, so us repos are down; do we get a hint of when they'll be back?
[07:22] <frogzoo> Toaste: just use a different repo
[07:22] <Toaste> uk?
[07:22] <LjL> ca. might be faster
[07:22] <Toaste> heh -- true
[07:22] <LjL> for someone living in america i mean
[07:23] <soundray> winman: what kind of firewall?
[07:23] <kanedaddy> ok
[07:23] <dharma> hi
[07:23] <winman> soundray, ubuntu firewall, ipchains, iptables, I am not sure :) ...
[07:24] <dharma> I have a little problem, I can't uninstall in any way a app I accidently installed (clvm), could sb help?
[07:24] <soundray> winman: a default ubuntu installation does not block incoming ssh. Are you sure the demon is running?
[07:24] <billybennett> is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[07:24] <_Spire_> it seems to be
[07:25] <winman> soundray, just occured to me ... let me check ...
[07:25] <trev__> backports are down
[07:25] <JungZandvliet> ey
[07:26] <_Spire_> billybennett: for now, I'm just using uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:26] <alex_> Anyone know where I can find xorg-server-fglrx 8.24.8 ?
[07:26] <alex_> xorg-driver-fglrx, sorry
[07:26] <billybennett> ahh thanks _Spire_
[07:26] <witless> apt-get update is hanging on me:
[07:26] <witless> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources
[07:26] <witless> 99% [Waiting for headers] 
[07:27] <_Spire_> witless: I think some of the repositories are down
[07:27] <AngryElf> why on earth doesn't Copy Paste work from application to application?
[07:27] <witless> _Spire_: thanks
[07:27] <AngryElf> if i copy something in firefox, close firefox, and try to paste it anywhere, it's gone
[07:27] <witless> _Spire_: any indication when they might be back up?
[07:27] <soundray> alex_: why do you need an old version?
[07:27] <trev__> just noticed that dosen't happen in KDE
[07:28] <_Spire_> witless: only thing I can think of is to check the forums (announcements) and/or the ubuntu website
[07:28] <alex_> soundray, 8.26.18 doesn't work with R200 hardware
[07:28] <witless> ok, thx
[07:28] <alex_> Apparently copying libGL.so.1.2 from an older version will work, so I'd like to try it.
[07:28] <Rikkimaru> Is there a wiki page for finding/installing sound drivers?
[07:28] <JungZandvliet> i got now: ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386 & ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386 so which version do i now need to just install the files on my pc to use linux.
[07:28] <billybennett> anyone know how to install LAMP?
[07:28] <alex_> I tried using the open source DRI drivers, but they don't work very well (ut2k3, nwn, etc don't render correctly)
[07:28] <billybennett> Linux,Apache,MySQL,PHP
[07:29] <frogzoo> !lamp
[07:29] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:29] <mwe> someone please ls -ld /etc/dhcp3 and tell me owner/group and permissions
[07:29] <_clarity_> sorry the kismet people aren't replying to my question... Anyways, ./configure is bombing when I'm trying to install kismet. It says it cannot find libstdc++ but it does exist in /usr/lib... Any clue what the problem could be?
[07:29] <AngryElf> anyone? is there a fix for copy and paste to make it work universally?
[07:30] <frogzoo> paul@PoisonArrow:~$ ls -ld /etc/dhcp3/
[07:30] <frogzoo> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 2006-05-31 10:50 /etc/dhcp3/
[07:30] <mwe> frogzoo: thanks
[07:30] <frogzoo> mwe: cheers
[07:31] <brz> hey guys i have a partition question can somebody help please
[07:31] <gatekeeper> !ask
[07:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:31] <MrLaminar> hi
[07:31] <alex_> argh, damn it, ut2003 crashes with fglrx! I can't win
[07:31] <MrLaminar> i have a question
[07:32] <billybennett> Anyone know why I cant install libapache2-mod-php5?
[07:32] <zazeem> odin please pm me or richard
[07:32] <billybennett> sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 gives me all sorts of errors
[07:32] <MrLaminar> cd-recording used to work on my laptop two weeks ago. now it won't record 532 MB of data on a 800 MB disc because the data is "too large to fit on the medium"
[07:32] <zetor> hi!
[07:33] <MrLaminar> does anyone know what could be the cause?
[07:33] <frogzoo> MrLaminar: you've run out of disk space me thinks
[07:33] <witless> apt-get update:
[07:33] <witless> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[07:33] <witless>   Connection failed [IP: 146.137.96.15 80] 
[07:33] <frogzoo> MrLaminar: df -h /tmp
[07:33] <brz> will i lose all the data on my drives if i install ubuntu to a partition i made on my first drive
[07:33] <MrLaminar> available: 3.7G
[07:34] <MrLaminar> frogzoo, it's not disc space...
[07:34] <soundray> alex_: still here?
[07:35] <billybennett> Can I run a LAMP server without running the Ubuntu Server Installation?
[07:35] <gatekeeper> brz: the installer gives you the option where to put things, might need to do 'manual partition'
[07:35] <sorush20> is there anyway that I could increas the voltage of my cpu fan so that it would cool the cpu more?
[07:35] <frogzoo> billybennett: you mean from a desktop install? sure
[07:35] <LimeKMag> have any of you been able to compile firefox on AMD64?
[07:35] <brz> yeah i did it manually but it gives the warning that it will destroy all data
[07:35] <Rikkimaru> Is there a wiki page for finding/installing sound drivers?
[07:35] <billybennett> frogzoo, would it be easier if I just downloaded and made a server install cd
[07:35] <Merkidemis> I am having some difficulty with my wifi.  I have a Broadcom 4318, which is built into my Compaq v2000 laptop.  I am running off ndiswrapper with the driver I found on the wiki.  The card seems to start up ok (light turns on, shows up in iwconfig) and I can also see the accesspoints around me in the NetworkManager applet.  However, I cannot seem to get it to connect to an accesspoint, even mine which I have set wide open.  Any 
[07:36] <frogzoo> sorush20: your fan will be running 12v already, that's the psu's max
[07:36] <LimeKMag> I think I'm hitting a GCC bug when building Gecko SDK
[07:36] <AngryElf> Merkidemis, i think the driver only works at 11M so: iwconfig ethX rate 11M  <--i think, otherwise read the iwconfig man page
[07:37] <frogzoo> billybennett: I believe the server install sets it up automatically, but setup from the desktop install is very straightforware
[07:37] <Merkidemis> AngrtElf: one moment while I try that
[07:37] <witless> is anyone able to successfully do an apt-get update ?
[07:37] <Commander-Crowe> yes'
[07:37] <billybennett> frogzoo, I'm following this tutorial for TorrentFlux but it says I need LAMP first  whats the best way to accomplish that
[07:37] <gatekeeper> brz: did you do manual partition?
[07:37] <Merkidemis> witless: yes, though not to us.archive
[07:37] <Ogud> sudo apt-get udate
[07:37] <Rikkimaru> Is there a wiki page for finding/installing sound drivers?
[07:37] <exor|grey> anyone ever have any luck with a MSI WP54G2 in Ubuntu? its a rt2500 chipset, supposed to work out of the box
[07:38] <billybennett> witless, I cant do us.archive
[07:38] <enyc> witless: if you are having trouble with a particular mirror you should try another
[07:38] <frogzoo> !lamp > billybennett
[07:38] <witless> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[07:38] <brz> gatekeeper: yeah i manually did it on the partition i created from my first hd
[07:38] <exor|grey> i can't even get it to show up properly in lspci
[07:38] <gnomefreak> BlueEagle: take the us. out of your repos
[07:38] <newaccount> witless: that's what i'm getting too.
[07:38] <gnomefreak> billybennett: ^^^^
[07:38] <enyc> witless: e.g. change the "us." to "uk." or somewhere elsoe
[07:38] <gnomefreak> BlueEagle: sorry
[07:38] <Merkidemis> witless: or just drop the us.
[07:38] <newaccount> witless: "apt-get update" is stalling on "99% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.7)] " for me.
[07:39] <billybennett> frogzoo, I've read that but when I try to install  libapache2-mod-php5 it says...unmet dependancys
[07:39] <bahadirt> spamassassin channel seems sleeping. may I ask a question here instead?
[07:39] <newaccount> Merkidemis: is this a new thing, or just a debugging technique?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> witless: take us. out dont replace it and it should foward you to uk
[07:39] <johnm1019> whats the best way to remove open-office whilst not killing ubuntu-desktop?
[07:39] <Merkidemis> witless: do you need assistance editing the source list?
[07:39] <melle> Hi, i just installed ubuntu for the first time its really great and almost complete :) but im not sure if my VGA is installed correctly.. i diddnt install a driver so far (i have a Ati Radeaon 9800)
[07:39] <enyc> uh-oh!
[07:39] <gnomefreak> johnm1019: ubuntu-desktop can be removed
[07:39] <soundray> johnm1019: just remove ubuntu-desktop along with it. It's just a metapackage containing only dependencies.
[07:39] <enyc> I have a button seemingly not-working on my clckykeyboard
[07:40] <billybennett> frogzoo, I'll get the server install its probably better cause this is an old machine
[07:40] <Merkidemis> AngryElf: I ran the command and no dice.  Is there anything else I need to do for that to excute properly?
[07:40] <johnm1019> soundray gnomefreak -- so if that gets removed i'll still have gnome and x working?
[07:40] <newaccount> Merkidemis: that worked, thanks!
[07:40] <gnomefreak> johnm1019: yes
[07:40] <witless> Get:8 http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources [1478B] 
[07:40] <witless> 99% [Waiting for headers] 
[07:40] <exor|grey> any help on a MSI MP54G2?
[07:40] <johnm1019> gnomefreak: awesome thank you
[07:40] <witless> the uk one is hanging too it seems
[07:40] <gnomefreak> JohnRobert: yw
[07:40] <Merkidemis> newaccount: no problem, I had the same issue
[07:40] <gnomefreak> witless: aftrer its doen run sudo apt-ge tupdate again
[07:40] <newaccount> witless: remove the "uk." portion, don't replace it.
[07:40] <gnomefreak> i screwe that one up bad
[07:41] <gnomefreak> witless: when its done run sudo apt-get update again
[07:41] <enyc> the us mirror at the argonne national laboratory appears to be down
[07:42] <_Spire_> enyc: yup
[07:42] <doughboy> Anybody running realbasic here? I am curious to find out if you are having some of the issues I have with it such as when test running your app under development here it takes a while for it to load.
[07:43] <PsyBan-> IOError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info'
[07:43] <PsyBan-> how do i fake that file?
[07:43] <mil000000> hi teher, anybody speak spanish?
[07:43] <Tommy2k4> !es
[07:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:43] <mil000000> gracias
[07:43] <frogzoo> PsyBan-: /etc/init.d/acpi-support start
[07:43] <witless> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Sources
[07:43] <witless> 99% [Waiting for headers] 
[07:43] <FurryNemesis> !seen ghost3
[07:43] <ubotu> I last saw ghost3 (n=Michael@adsl-226-187-172.shv.bellsouth.net) 17h 27m 46s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[07:44] <gatekeeper> brz: I would have expected it to only try to format the partitions you intend to use and leave the others alone, and tell you which ones it intends to format, may be you should try the Alt CD which has a text installer, and I think possible gives you more control
[07:44] <PsyBan-> frogzoo, i dont have battery in my computer
[07:44] <PsyBan-> i need to fake that i have
[07:44] <Tommy2k4> i think ive discovered the source of the crashes i keep getting
[07:44] <PsyBan-> for the one program
[07:44] <Merkidemis> AngryElf: any other suggestions on getting that wifi working?
[07:44] <soundray> Tommy2k4: hamsters?
[07:45] <frogzoo> PsyBan-: /proc isn't a writable file system in the usual sense
[07:45] <PsyBan-> well wtf
[07:45] <PsyBan-> how do i then make this
[07:45] <Tommy2k4> nope
[07:45] <Tommy2k4> its media players i think
[07:45] <brz> gatekeeper: thanks alot i will try that because i dont want to risk losing all of my data
[07:45] <frogzoo> PsyBan-: what's the app?
[07:45] <gatekeeper> brz: have you backed it up?
[07:45] <PsyBan-> frogzoo, ADesklets with plugin: SystemMonitor
[07:46] <brz> gatekeeper: i cant back it all up, hav to buy more dvds :)
[07:46] <brz> i have a 80GB and 300GB
[07:47] <Weems> anyone know what the pckage name for the tcl development libraries?
[07:47] <gatekeeper> brz: well I would buy the CD's backup then try, better safe than sorry :-)
[07:47] <thygrrr> Hi, I have a small 30 mb partition at /dev/hda1; that contains my Windows XP boot loaders and stuff. It's the only primary partition; all the others are logical partitions inside an extended one. Now, if I reinstall Windows XP on that system, it will most likely break whatever ubuntu added to it... what precautions do I need to take?
[07:47] <frogzoo> PsyBan-: what are you like with a hex editor? or you could d/l the source repo & edit it
[07:47] <PsyBan-> frogzoo, its at config file
[07:47] <PsyBan-> its python
[07:48] <brz> gatekeeper: i am buying a laptop sonn which hav windows mce so i may just install it there since theres nothing to lose
[07:48] <PsyBan-> it would be easy to edit battery monitoring away
[07:48] <PsyBan-> for someone who knows python
[07:48] <ciplogic> Hi: I have one big problem: at launch of X server it said that it hasn't the font 'fixed'
[07:48] <gatekeeper> brz: better plan :-)
[07:48] <ciplogic> Does anyone know which package contains that font?
[07:48] <gatekeeper> brz: I use a caddy system
[07:48] <ciplogic> or how do I reconfigure the x server to knew that I have it?
[07:49] <PsyBan-> frogzoo, ill give you pastebinlink
[07:49] <frogzoo> PsyBan-: sorry, but no
[07:49] <PsyBan-> what why
[07:49] <Merkidemis> anyone have suggestion on how to get a wifi card to connect to an open access point when it can be seen?
[07:49] <brz> gatekeeper: yeah i think that would be better too
[07:49] <gatekeeper> brz: I have a windows hdd & linux hdd, and boot off which ever one I want, caddies are quite cheep
[07:50] <PsyBan-> Does anyone know howto get ADesklet plugin SystemMonitor to work with Ubuntu?
[07:50] <Warbo> thygrrr: Windows will overwrite GRUB, which can be added back with a LiveCD. As far as I know Windows cannot use extended partitions, so you may need to juggle your partitions around to make enough room for a logical partition for it
[07:50] <gatekeeper> brz: saves woundering what might happen :-)
[07:50] <mil000000> hi there, i have a usb wi-fi adapter but it seems is not listed in the soported hardware of ubuntu, any hep?
[07:51] <Merkidemis> mil: you may be able to use ndiswapper to allow you to use a Windows driver
[07:51] <Merkidemis> mil: check this list to see if its on there: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[07:51] <mil000000> that cool, thanks il try
[07:51] <brz> gatekeeper: ur setup is good i have had this thing running on winxp for two years and im moving to ubuntu now
[07:51] <soundray> Warbo: afaik, Windows can use extended partitions, it just needs a primary one for the system.
[07:51] <sebest_> how can i install a 64bits kernel on a 32bits install?
[07:51] <mil000000> thank u very much
[07:52] <Merkidemis> mil: no problem, hope it works for you
[07:52] <thygrrr> Warbo: Thanks, where's that option on the live cd? I haven't seen it when I first installed ubuntu. Windows works fine with the extended partitions, just FYI :-)
[07:52] <soundray> sebest_: good question. I've looked into this, and what I found so far is that it should be possible.
[07:52] <Warbo> !grub
[07:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:52] <thygrrr> Thank you very much.
[07:53] <gatekeeper> brz: hope you like linux, ubuntu is a good distro, I have put some usefull links together on a web page you might find usefull http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[07:53] <sebest_> soundray, how could i do this?
[07:54] <ciplogic> hello, someone may help me with fixed font problem at start of X11 server?
[07:54] <sebest_> it's not listed with apt-cache search
[07:54] <Tommy2k4> i think the crash i keep getting where monitor says "frequency out of range 31khz/0hz" is something to do with media players / xine / alsa / whatever
[07:54] <ciplogic> I don't enjoy to talk with irssi :)
[07:54] <thygrrr> Is there an identd running in a default install of ubuntu?
[07:55] <soundray> sebest_: I don't know -- I've been planning to just compile a kernel for k8 and try to work with that. But I haven't got that far yet.
[07:55] <Skaag> hello guys, is it a known issue that Flash crashes firefox on ubuntu?
[07:55] <profoX`> Skaag: yes..
[07:55] <soundray> sebest_: it would be purely for entertainment anyway -- there's no significant benefit to running a 64bit kernel in a 32bit system.
[07:55] <profoX`> Skaag: atleast, i have the same problem alot of times
[07:55] <profoX`> Skaag: but archlinux firefox + flash works fine
[07:55] <soundray> sebest_: at least for the type of system I'm running.
[07:55] <idefix_> what is the linux-equivalent of exe-files?
[07:56] <profoX`> Skaag: and ubuntu epiphany + flash works too
[07:56] <Warbo> idefix_: "ELF"
[07:56] <idefix_> how can you transform windows exe-files to linux elf-files?
[07:56] <sebest_> soundray, i need it to create 64 bit virtual machine on vmware
[07:56] <profoX`> idefix_: there is none, but exe are executable files, so i would say binaries, most times they have .bin as extension
[07:56] <sebest_> for testing purpose
[07:56] <Warbo> idefix_: If you have the source code........... Anyway, you can run exes in WINE
[07:56] <Warbo> !wine
[07:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:56] <ciplogic> thank you for help guys :)
[07:56] <soundray> Skaag: only if you run experimental flash plugins like swfplayer
[07:56] <ciplogic> I get the info from #gentoo channel
[07:57] <Skaag> does epiphany render with Gecko?
[07:57] <ciplogic> :(
[07:57] <frogzoo> Tommy2k4: possibly you just need to set you xorg.conf up properly
[07:57] <Warbo> Skaag: Yes
[07:57] <frogzoo> !fixres > Tommy2k4
[07:57] <Merkidemis> idefix: do you want to run Windows apps under Linix? For that you'll need Wine
[07:57] <Tommy2k4> its fine
[07:57] <Skaag> soundray: I don't know which flash plugin i'm using...
[07:57] <Tommy2k4> many people have looked at it and agreed
[07:57] <Skaag> which one should I be using?
[07:57] <soundray> Skaag: check by entering about:plugins as the URL
[07:57] <Warbo> Skaag: Flash plugin for Mozilla works in Epiphany for me
[07:57] <profoX`> soundray: i am using r67 and it's unstable.. but its the default, and it works fine in epiphany
[07:57] <soundray> sebest_: how about installing amd64 in a separate partition?
[07:57] <flodine> anyone on 64 bit can tell me if theres java for firefox and flash
[07:57] <Skaag> So i'll use epiphany instead of firefox
[07:57] <Skaag> no sweat
[07:58] <profoX`> r63 *
[07:58] <Foobal> flodine: java is, flash no
[07:58] <Skaag> File name:  libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 7.0 r63
[07:58] <Skaag> that's what i'm using
[07:58] <brz> gatekeeper: thanks i will check ur site out and iv been running ubuntu from vmware and i really like it
[07:58] <Skaag> soundray: does that look ok?
[07:59] <soundray> profoX`, Skaag hmm, I haven't had any trouble with that.
[07:59] <profoX`> soundray: alot of people have, what language is your firefox Skaag , soundray ?
[07:59] <Skaag> language? English
[07:59] <profoX`> and what other plugins do you have Skaag ? soundray ?
[07:59] <soundray> profoX`: British English
[07:59] <Skaag> mplayer, google vlc, quicktime
[07:59] <profoX`> Skaag: i don't know.. the problem must be somewhere.. some people don't have the problem and some people do
[08:00] <soundray> Gotta leave you to it, Skaag, profoX` ;)
[08:00] <Skaag> real player, windows media plugin
[08:00] <profoX`> Skaag: windows media plugin?
[08:00] <Skaag> profoX`: if epiphany works fine i'll just use that
[08:00] <Skaag> profoX`: yah it's something automatix installed so I can watch videos in the browser
[08:00] <profoX`> Skaag: mplayer does that too, windows media plugin sounds like wine
[08:01] <Skaag> hm... interesting
[08:01] <Merkidemis> anyone good with wifi? I  can see access points, but can't connect
[08:02] <`DaGuy> Merkidemis,, I am not good but have just been thru the struggle - will help if I can
[08:02] <stefg> !wifi
[08:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[08:02] <Warbo> I'm going to reboot and see if I can get WiFi going
[08:03] <idefix_> how big is wine?
[08:03] <Sally80> hello
[08:03] <stefg> !info wine
[08:03] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[08:03] <`DaGuy> Merkidemis - those links r good - may or may not help
[08:04] <fuoco> how do i get mplayer ?
[08:04] <_yaya_> hello
[08:04] <_yaya_> anyone from denmark?
[08:04] <`DaGuy> Merkidemis - what is ur wireless adapter
[08:04] <Lynoure> !dk
[08:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[08:05] <FurryNemesis> hmm
[08:05] <zazeem> i need help, i dont have permissions to anything on my new ubuntu install how do i get them
[08:05] <Sally80> how do i install democracy player on ubuntu anyone?
[08:06] <zazeem> i need help, i dont have permissions to anything on my new ubuntu install how do i get them
[08:06] <Merkidemis> the sudo command
[08:06] <zazeem> i cant play games at all either
[08:06] <zazeem> it cant write stuff to game files
[08:07] <Lynoure> Sally80: what do you mean with democracy player?
[08:07] <idefix_> what are the chances universe software is crap?
[08:07] <idefix_> -ish..
[08:07] <FurryNemesis> low
[08:07] <Sally80> It is supposed to be the best
[08:08] <Lynoure> Sally80: had to google for that. http://www.macewan.org/category/ubuntu-linux/ might help you
[08:08] <idefix_> main and restricted are the best
[08:08] <idefix_> multiverse isn't free so should be good too
[08:08] <Tmob> anyone know hwo to temporarily shutoff cpu frequency throlling for laptops
[08:08] <Tmob> ?
[08:08] <Sally80> Thank you!!!!
[08:08] <idefix_> Tmob, what the hell is cpu frequency throlling?!
[08:09] <PsyBan-> Is there anyone using Adesklets??
[08:09] <Tmob> idefix_, cpufreq..
[08:09] <fuoco> how do i get mplayer ?
[08:09] <idefix_> fuoco t's in the repos
[08:09] <gnomefreak> fuoco: enalbe multiverse repo and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:09] <fuoco> i did that
[08:10] <fuoco> i can't find
[08:10] <idefix_> gnomefreak should you sudo apt-get update every once in a while anyway?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> idefix_: i do but i leave pc on for weeks
[08:10] <gnomefreak> idefix_: cron should run apt-get update once a day
[08:10] <Sally80> is there not a line i can type in the box?
[08:10] <FurryNemesis> how can I reset my sources list? I messed up and keep getting a duplicate entries error.
[08:10] <Sally80> like with other things
[08:10] <gnomefreak> idefix_: changing sources.list you need to run it
[08:10] <idefix_> gnomefreak who is cron?
[08:11] <gnomefreak> cronis (something that does things automaticly)
[08:11] <Lynoure> Sally80: that site has pretty detailed instructions- No, one line will not be enough to get that player
[08:11] <Sally80> ok
[08:11] <Lynoure> ..especially not on Dapper.
[08:11] <AltF4> yello
[08:11] <gnomefreak> idefix_: man cron   (it runs what you tell it to at the time you tell it to
[08:12] <AltF4> Qestion: How do I read an NTFS drie in Ubuntu
[08:12] <idefix_> gnomefreak once a day is necessary?
[08:12] <AltF4> Qestion: How do I read an NTFS drie in Ubuntu
[08:12] <stefg> !ntfs
[08:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:12] <gnomefreak> idefix_: its always a good idea incase there are updates
[08:12] <gnomefreak> idefix_: that is set by the devel team
[08:12] <FurryNemesis> AltF4,  doesn't it do it automatically?
[08:12] <stefg> !mount
[08:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[08:13] <AltF4> nope
[08:13] <AltF4> I need my SAM file
[08:13] <Lynoure> Sally80: Alternatively you can follow instructions at http://www.getdemocracy.com/downloads/ , I don't know which is more up to date or easier
[08:13] <AltF4> can I do that i ubuntu
[08:13] <FurryNemesis> AltF4, sorry, can't help
[08:13] <AltF4> y
[08:13] <AltF4> why
[08:13] <brotakul> hi. when i quit a game[640x480]  the desktop resolution changes automaticaly to 1600x1200 even if my default res. is 1024x768. how can i fix this? thanks.
[08:14] <frogzoo> idefix_: just enable automatic updates through synaptic & that takes care of it
[08:14] <AltF4> stefg: how did you do that
[08:14] <PsyBan-> Is there anyone using Adesklets??
[08:14] <gnomefreak> lol stefg thats what i get for running testing
[08:14] <stefg> AltF4: waht do you mean
[08:14] <AltF4> That thing with the * in front and a message
[08:15] <idefix_> frogzoo synaptic edits the cron deamon?
[08:15] <gnomefreak> AltF4: type /me <message
[08:15] <gnomefreak> >
[08:15] <stefg>  ! is triggering the bot for a factoid
[08:15] <Bergcube> AltF4~  Simply START a line with "/me"
[08:15] <AltF4> cool
[08:15] <AngryElf> Merkidemis, you could try the linux driver instead of the ndiswrapper route
[08:15] <PsyBan-> Is there anyone using Adesklets??
[08:15] <AngryElf> I got it working with that a while ago
[08:15] <stefg> !ubotu
[08:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:15] <stefg> !botabuse
[08:15] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[08:16] <sharms> Oddly enough you can browse my brain at /dev/null
[08:16] <Merkidemis> damnit, why does wifi have to be so hard
[08:16] <thygrrr> Awesomeness, ubunto recognizes my Clie palm os device out of the box.
[08:16] <sharms> Merkidemis: it is easy
[08:16] <sharms> !tell Merkidemis  about wireless
[08:16] <daturan_> is "us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15)" down? I'm not able to apt-get update
[08:17] <gnomefreak> daturan_: yes
[08:17] <gnomefreak> daturan_: remove "us." from all your repos
[08:17] <daturan_> thanks
[08:17] <Merkidemis> sharms: It should be.  I am trying to follow the instructions on that site, doing the fwcutter firmware thing, and all the files I download get a "I can't find the MD5sum" error
[08:17] <gnomefreak> sebest_: what did i miss?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrr
[08:17] <knewb> if i uninstall a gnome package then ubuntu-desktop will also uninstall.. i know that won't crash my system, but will gnome loose any functionality?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> Seveas: what i miss?
[08:17] <tinka> ex-chat
[08:18] <xange> how can I test to see if my opengl is configured correctly?
[08:18] <brotakul> hi. when i quit a game[640x480]  the desktop resolution changes automaticaly to 1600x1200 even if my default res. is 1024x768. how can i fix this? thanks.
[08:18] <thygrrr> is there a way to change gaim's automatic spell checking; if possible based on servers/im contacts? I'm bilingual.
[08:18] <stefg> xange: glxinfo | grep direct
[08:18] <xange> ty stefg
[08:18] <Luctr> hi
[08:19] <frogzoo> idefix_: synaptic -> settings -> repositories -> internet updates
[08:19] <stefg> to see if it's real hardware 3D: glxgears -printfps
[08:19] <Luctr> anyone installed eciadsl drivers in ubuntu?
[08:19] <xange> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". :-/
[08:19] <NeoNmaN> i need help for Wine plz help me
[08:19] <idefix_> frogzoo, are you psychic? how did you know I wanted to ask that question?
[08:19] <linux_user400354> thygrrr, ask the developer of gaim. i have him on my aim list.
[08:19] <stefg> xange: /green/ or /red/ graphics adapter?
[08:20] <billfur> why might us.archive.ubuntu.com not be working for me?
[08:20] <gatekeeper> !wine > NeoNmaN:
[08:20] <billfur> (I can ping to it)
[08:20] <xange> stefg: huh?
[08:20] <benkong2> I changed my graphics card from the vga to the dvi connection. Now my ubuntu splash is all messed up. After booting the xorg is ok and works fine
[08:20] <LimeKMag> billfur: I can't use it either
[08:20] <NeoNmaN> gatekeeper, okay i need help to my wine
[08:21] <xange> stefg: nvidia...if thats what you mean by green
[08:21] <stefg> green= go = nvidia, red=stop= ati :-)
[08:21] <benkong2> just startup and shutdown screens are really fuzzy. What can I do?
[08:21] <gatekeeper> !wine
[08:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:21] <NeoNmaN> i can't get my sound card to work and my ipx network, i try to play Starcraft
[08:21] <idefix_> frogzoo Ubuntu 5.10 Updates (Binary) is checked... Ubuntu 5.10 Updates (Source) is not... is this ok?
[08:21] <gatekeeper> NeoNmaN: have a read ^^^
[08:21] <xange> stefg: green :)
[08:21] <Luctr> I need help with eciadsl
[08:21] <sharms> benkong2: I would add vga=792 in my /boot/grub/menu.list as an automatic option to the end of the boot kernels
[08:21] <NeoNmaN> gatekeeper, ??
[08:21] <Soclix> Salut a tous
[08:21] <sharms> benkong2: to do this properly read the comments in that file carefull.y
[08:22] <benkong2> sharms, ok checking
[08:22] <Soclix> Je suis nouvel utilisateur de linux, et d'ubuntu plus particulierement
[08:22] <Seveas> !fr
[08:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:22] <Soclix> Oops, sorry
[08:22] <Soclix> i was thinking i was on the french channel
[08:22] <Soclix> thanks ^
[08:22] <Subhuman> NeoNmaN, before you can run wine you need to run "winecfg" first, push Alt + F2 and type "winecfg"
[08:22] <gatekeeper> NeoNmaN: did you not see the ubotu responce to wine?
[08:22] <stefg> xange: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable .... /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:22] <linux_user400354> amarok in the ubuntu repositories is old. its version 1.3 and it wont play mp3s. i need version 1.4 to play mp3s. does anyone know where to get it for ubuntu?
[08:22] <idefix_> frogzoo Ubuntu 5.10 Security Updates (Binary) is checked... Ubuntu 5.10 Security Updates (Source) is not and neither is the universe version of it ... is this ok?
[08:22] <idefix_> frogzoo, I don't see internet updates
[08:23] <billfur> linux_user400354, 6.06 amarok works just fine with mp3s.
[08:23] <NeoNmaN> when i click audio ist crash my winecfg
[08:23] <billfur> linux_user400354, you just have to install some xine plugins iirc
[08:23] <Warbo> Anyone know why my system might hang at @waiting for root filesystem@ when my WiFi card is plugged in?
[08:24] <Warbo> (sorry, I'm in the LiveCD and it is set to US keyboard :) )
[08:24] <linux_user400354> billfur, i want the newest version. it has more features and bug fixes. i can also listen to mp3s without the xine plugins using it.
[08:24] <gatekeeper> NeoNmaN: I am not a wine expert probable need help off one of the others, sorry
[08:24] <Bergcube> stefg~  Couldn't you (or somebody) teach it to Ubotu?
[08:24] <benkong2> sharms, here's what's there now "/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=0x348 quiet splash"
[08:24] <benkong2> I do see where I can add the option
[08:24] <gnomefreak> Warbo: what kernel?
[08:24] <NeoNmaN> gatekeeper, ist okay :/
[08:25] <idefix_> frogzoo, please help me
[08:25] <stefg> There's already a factoid for nvidia... a stupid one
[08:25] <stefg> !nvidia
[08:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:25] <Assassin5> what is the default root password after installing dapper?
[08:25] <Warbo> gnomefreak: 2.6.15-23-k7. Funny thing is, it worked fine the first time, but ever since it will not boot
[08:25] <linux_user400354> has anyone ran windows xp in vmplayer on ubuntu
[08:25] <sharms> benkong2: I have a line that reads: # defoptions=quiet splash vga=791
[08:25] <benkong2> my question is 0x348 and vga=792 the same?
[08:25] <Warbo> !rootsudo
[08:25] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:25] <eggzeck> Warbo, No password
[08:25] <eggzeck> oops
[08:25] <LimeKMag> have any of you done an apt-get dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[08:25] <sharms> benkong2: then do a dpkg-reconfigure grub and it should add it automatically
[08:25] <eggzeck> Assassin5, No password
[08:25] <benkong2> my resolution is 1920x1200
[08:25] <linux_user400354> has anyone ran windows vista beta in vmplayer on ubuntu?
[08:25] <benkong2> ok
[08:25] <eggzeck> Assassin5, run: sudo passwd
[08:25] <NeoNmaN> !wine
[08:25] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:25] <NeoNmaN> !sudo
[08:25] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:25] <gnomefreak> Warbo: not sure off hand but i know there were a few bugs reported against that kernel for a few things
[08:26] <NeoNmaN> !bash
[08:26] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:26] <Bergcube> Assassin5~  No root.  You use sudo from your own account.  Se ubotu's message on sudo.
[08:26] <linux_user400354> !csh
[08:26] <Assassin5> eggzeck, thanks. thats what I wanted.
[08:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about csh - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:26] <eggzeck> Assassin5, That will set the root password if you really need to use the root account
[08:26] <Luctr> !eciadsl
[08:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about eciadsl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:26] <gnomefreak> dont play witht he bot
[08:26] <Assassin5> pointless typing sudo all the time if i've got lots of work to do on root
[08:27] <Warbo> gnomefreak: The card is detected in this Dapper CD (it's quite impressive, I've never booted it before) but it takes me a while to reconfigure new kernels (I need to make a new boot CD) so the current kernel is preferred
[08:27] <stefg> Luctr: what are you trying to do?
[08:27] <gnomefreak> Assassin5: sudo -i
[08:27] <idefix_> frogzoo? ru afk?
[08:27] <Luctr> stefg
[08:27] <Luctr> I'm trying to install eciadsl driver
[08:27] <Luctr> to use usb modem
[08:28] <gnomefreak> Warbo: sticking on searching for root file system should not be nic card/wifi card issue
[08:28] <linux_user400354> i can create a zip archive in ubuntu. ive tried many times. ive tried the command line zip program, file roller, and xarchiver. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18585
[08:28] <stefg> !info eciadsl
[08:28] <ubotu> eciadsl: userspace driver for the Globespan-based USB ADSL modems. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.11-3 (dapper), package size 148 kB, installed size 352 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 powerpc ppc64 sparc)
[08:29] <gnomefreak> Warbo: example 2.6.17-3/-4/-5 stuck there due to grub entry being hda where the kernel was looking for sda
[08:29] <stefg> Luctr: you knoww how to enable 'universe'-repos?
[08:29] <Warbo> gnomefreak: I boot from a CD since my computer doesn't boot USB. I added a 15 second wait for the USB device to be initialised, but it just hangs there (if the USB device isn't plugged in it drops to a kernel panic, no root filesystem, but it just freezes on waiting)
[08:29] <Luctr> no stefg
[08:30] <stefg> !repos
[08:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:30] <Warbo> gnomefreak: Hang on, I will mount my filesystem and check syslog
[08:30] <gnomefreak> Warbo: im not sure about that
[08:30] <stefg> !easysource
[08:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:30] <gnomefreak> stefg: stop
[08:30] <linux_user400354>  i can create a zip archive in ubuntu. ive tried many times. ive tried the command line zip program, file roller, and xarchiver. i get some error messages. does anyone know how to fix this? http://pastebin.ca/95813
[08:31] <Assassin5> okay.... where's best to get xvid and divx codecs from?
[08:31] <gnomefreak> stefg: last warning please dont play with the bot thank you
[08:31] <Seveas> !codecs > Assassin5
[08:31] <javier> hola
[08:31] <Bergcube> I have a Logitech optical mouse. The two main buttons and the scroll wheel works, so it took me a while to realise that the button "under the wheel" and the tiny extra button does nothing.  What would be the smart way to make this better?
[08:31] <javier> alguna chica con msn
[08:32] <Warbo> gnomefreak: Erm, I was having bootup problems earlier with this WiFi card, but I think this is unrelated. I just tried to mount my HD and realised my USB stick is plugged in, making the drive sdb not sda :) I'll try again
[08:32] <Rieux> QUESTION: Is the all the chatrooms (channels) in all the freenode servers the same?
[08:32] <Seveas> Rieux, yes
[08:32] <GlassCasket> Um, how come you can't make your partition types reiserfs in the installer?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> GlassCasket: iirc you need to use the OEM or server install for that
[08:33] <Rieux> Seveas: thanks
[08:34] <GlassCasket> gnomefreak: What is considered the OEM version>
[08:34] <MenZa> Seveas: ...you actually understood that?
[08:34] <gnomefreak> GlassCasket: i think its on the alternative cd
[08:34] <gnomefreak> MenZa: was it that hard
[08:34] <Assassin5> Seveas, thanks
[08:34] <gnomefreak> MenZa: chica = wonman
[08:34] <MenZa> I understood it something like... are all the channels the same thing?
[08:35] <GlassCasket> gnomefreak: Well, I have Knoppix so I'll make my partitions through that.
[08:35] <MenZa> gnomefreak: o_O?
[08:35] <avalean> Ok ubuntu isnt loading, the power went out and when it came back the xwindow gives me a mouse i can move but nothing more
[08:35] <brotakul> hi. when i quit a game[640x480]  the desktop resolution changes automaticaly to 1600x1200 even if my default res. is 1024x768. how can i fix this? thanks.
[08:35] <avalean> anything that i can try to do?
[08:36] <benkong2> ok dpkg-reconfigure grub did not fix my screen problem Is there a method I can use to see what my "vga=" line should be?
[08:36] <fuoco> gnomefreak: in the preferences where i set repos, everything is selected - and still no mplayer
[08:36] <oneeyedelf1> just outta curiosity how do I change the screen resolution in gdm?
[08:36] <stefg> brotakul: is the game run with wine or cedega, or is it a linux-native game?
[08:36] <gnomefreak> fuoco: close it adn type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <brotakul> stefg: with wine
[08:36] <gnomefreak> fuoco: let me know when the file is open
[08:37] <brotakul> stefg: cs 1.6 if it matters
[08:37] <Assassin5> anyone know a source for libxine-extracodecs
[08:37] <nn> did a new release come out today or something?
[08:37] <GlassCasket> gnomefreak: How come you can't format with reiserfs in the isntaller though?
[08:37] <stefg> brotakul: that's a wine bug... the only solution i've found is to disable the higher resolutions in xorg.conf.
[08:37] <gnomefreak> GlassCasket: never asked
[08:38] <gatekeeper> Assassin5: multiverse
[08:38] <gnomefreak> GlassCasket: but if i had to guess the installer you are using is for people new to linux
[08:38] <brotakul> stefg: and it won't mess up XGL. i have it installed
[08:38] <gatekeeper> Assassin5: using firefox?
[08:38] <lophyte> anyone here know anything about remastering the Ubuntu install CD?
[08:38] <Assassin5> gatekeeper, nah, just to pay back xvids and divx
[08:39] <stefg> brotakul: don't know. I've got enough trouble, no need to ask for more by xgl
[08:39] <Assassin5> I'll do firefox later
[08:39] <Soclix> has somebody an gmail invitation for me ?
[08:39] <brotakul> stefg: 10x.
[08:39] <gatekeeper> Assassin5: it has a repos search engine in it
[08:40] <Rei_Enna> how do i undo sudo -i?
[08:40] <Subhuman> Soclix, theres a website where you can request one, i can fidn the link if you want
[08:40] <avalean> Ok ubuntu isnt loading, the power went out and when it came back the xwindow gives me a mouse i can move but nothing more, anything i can do?
[08:40] <Subhuman> Rei_Enna, type "exit"
[08:40] <Rei_Enna> thx
[08:40] <Tommy2k4> i think the crash i keep getting where monitor says "frequency out of range 31khz/0hz" is something to do with media players / xine / alsa / whatever
[08:40] <GlassCasket> Soclix: PM me your email
[08:40] <gatekeeper> Assassin5: apt:/ you can also use in anything that accepts a url
[08:40] <PsyBan-> HEY why does xcompmgr make my system go slow?
[08:40] <alex_> these ATI drivers are severely pissing me off
[08:40] <PsyBan-> and makes it look broken
[08:40] <stefg> avalean: can you boot in recovery mode?
[08:40] <PsyBan-> alex_,  I AGREE
[08:40] <alex_> I'm gonna eBay this laptop and get one with a geforcego
[08:41] <avalean> do i boot with the disk then stef?
[08:41] <PsyBan-> alex_,  very good idea
[08:41] <brotakul> stefg: i don't have any resolutinos higher than 1024 in xorg.conf
[08:41] <PsyBan-> ic you can really do it
[08:41] <alex_> being unable to play ut2k3 just won't cut it
[08:41] <PsyBan-> DO IT
[08:41] <fuoco> gnomefreak: it's up
[08:41] <gatekeeper> alex_: common complaint by all accounts
[08:41] <Bergcube> Let me ask in another way:  Is there any way to reconfigure the mouse in X and /or Gnome?
[08:41] <Aaronn> need help :\
[08:41] <Kibou> becaue the composite extension is buggy and always will be a POS
[08:41] <nn> alex_: or you could donate it to me ;)
[08:41] <alex_> it's a shame though because this is a nice laptop otherwise
[08:41] <gnomefreak> fuoco: look for the lines that end in universe and add a space than type multverse
[08:41] <gnomefreak> oops
[08:41] <stefg> avalean: by pressing esc during boot you'll get to a boot menu, where you can select a recovery mode
[08:41] <Aaronn> how do i config dns servers in FF?
[08:41] <lophyte> anyone know if there's a way to make the Ubuntu installer use 2 CDs instead of one?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> fuoco: multiverse
[08:42] <avalean> stefg thanks
[08:42] <Assassin5> gatekeeper, nice one dude. thanks
[08:42] <gatekeeper> Assassin5: yw :-)
[08:42] <alex_> It'd be cool if X.org started using DBUS for configuration
[08:42] <nn> alex_: i no longer have a laptop to do development on :P
[08:42] <fuoco> gnomefreak: it's there already: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe main restricted multiverse
[08:42] <gnomefreak> fuoco: than click save and close it than run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:42] <fuoco> gnomefreak: why do i need to do it manually ?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> fuoco: is ther a # infront of it?
[08:43] <stefg> avalean: but by itself it does nothing... you just get a console where you can give commands to check the filesystem or fix broken files
[08:43] <fuoco> gnomefreak: no
[08:43] <nn> what's multiverse?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> fuoco: paste that file to pastebin please
[08:43] <Aaronn> how do i config dns servers in FF? i can do "ping domain" but i can't connect a server by his domain in FF
[08:43] <gnomefreak> !multiverse > nn
[08:43] <fuoco> gnomefreak: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6cercn75.html
[08:43] <Subhuman> Aaronn, try this > !ipv6
[08:43] <alex_> nn, I actually don't even use my desktop anymore
[08:43] <Subhuman> !ipv6
[08:43] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:43] <GUARDiAN|nb> hi
[08:44] <nn> !easysource
[08:44] <Subhuman> Aaronn, follow that ^ , that resolved the issue for me
[08:44] <Aaronn> but i cant connect any server
[08:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:44] <alex_> nn, it's a glorified fileserver with a useless monitor =P
[08:44] <nn> alex_: hah
[08:44] <GUARDiAN|nb> is it possible to see the source where a package was installed from?
[08:44] <Subhuman> Aaronn, write it down and try it on another pc.
[08:44] <godtvisken> Is anyone else havingi problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.7)?
[08:44] <Aaronn> ok, thanks.. :)
[08:44] <Subhuman> Aaronn, that fixed it for me and a few others.
[08:44] <godtvisken> It keeps timing out for me when I try to apt-get update
[08:44] <gnomefreak> fuoco: put a # infront of the very first line the one that says cdrom
[08:44] <gnomefreak> godtvisken: us archives are done
[08:45] <gnomefreak> down
[08:45] <gnomefreak> godtvisken: take the "us." out of the repos
[08:45] <neighborlee> is it my end or are the debian servers ( whichever ones got attacked: im having times outs with synaptic ) stilll struggling to get back to normal ??
[08:45] <Merkidemis> gah, finally, it works
[08:45] <alex_> neighborlee debian and ubuntu aren't the same project (ask in #Debian hahaha)
[08:45] <protestingrab> Hello everyone, I had a question about my sound card.  When I first installed Ubuntu it worked fine but today i did a bunch of updates after not using my computer for about a month and now the sound doesnt work.  I checked the list and my hardware soundcard (sis) is supported
[08:45] <ProN00b> what do i use to download a torrent ? (please don't even mention anything based on the python client (or anything just beeing an interface of some console client), or anything written in java)
[08:45] <fuoco> gnomefreak: and ?
[08:45] <godtvisken> gnomefreak: thanks
[08:46] <gnomefreak> fuoco: after that save close and update
[08:46] <gnomefreak> godtvisken: yw
[08:46] <GUARDiAN|nb> ProN00b: transmission
[08:46] <Subhuman> ProN00b, utorrent in WINE or BitTornado.
[08:46] <protestingrab> I was wondering if anyone else was having the same problem or if anyone knew how to fix it
[08:46] <fuoco> gnomefreak: ah now it's there- how come ?
[08:47] <gnomefreak> fuoco: it was look for mplayer fronm the cd
[08:47] <neighborlee> alex, well I didnt think so but...im def. experiencing horrible time outs with synaptic/add-remove
[08:47] <ProN00b> Subhuman, wining sucks, as does BitTornado
[08:47] <skavenge> neighborlee: the u.s. repos are down'
[08:47] <Subhuman> ProN00b, have you actually TRIED utorrent in wine? if you did you would know it works flawlessly.
[08:47] <godtvisken> gnomefreak: any idea when they'll be back?
[08:48] <gnomefreak> godtvisken: no
[08:48] <ProN00b> Subhuman, it might, it still doesn't feel right
[08:48] <gnomefreak> godtvisken: i dont use "us." any longer since they went down often
[08:48] <Subhuman> ProN00b, it integrates into the system perfectly
[08:48] <GUARDiAN|nb> ProN00b: transmission.m0k.org
[08:48] <ProN00b> Subhuman, if it was open source i would happyly compile it with winelib
[08:48] <Subhuman> appears in context menus, looks sane etc.
[08:48] <godtvisken> gnomefreak: ok
[08:48] <dagrump_> i dont recall to whom i should thank but editing the source list got me going again, thanks again
[08:48] <ProN00b> GUARDiAN|nb, that isn't in apt, is it ?
[08:48] <neighborlee> skavenge, ahhhh ok I figured...is there any timeframe that you've heard by chance ? ;)
[08:49] <alex_> man star trek owns
[08:49] <fuoco> anyone uses xchat-gnome ?
[08:49] <skavenge> neighborlee: nope, just take the 'us.' out of them in sources.list and it should continue on
[08:49] <kozlojak> xchat-gnome crashes for me
[08:49] <neighborlee> alex, YES I;m  a huge fan as well ;))heh
[08:49] <GUARDiAN|nb> ProN00b: no, but it wasn't hard to compile
[08:49] <neighborlee> alex_, yes Im a big fan as well.
[08:49] <element`ubuntu> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[08:49] <santa99> he guys i have a problem with my shutdown. My shutdown starts but i goes only to Will now halt. There it hangs and i have to power off my computer through the Power off button
[08:49] <element`ubuntu> I keep getting that error...an ideas how to fix it?
[08:49] <santa99> any ideas
[08:49] <neighborlee> skavenge, ah ok thx
[08:50] <stefg> protestingrab: Now and then people were experiencing problems with the updated kernels, one of them being that the sound was 'muted'. Did you check that already?
[08:50] <protestingrab> well
[08:50] <ProN00b> GUARDiAN|nb, i suspect that uses the python client as its backend
[08:50] <protestingrab> I clicked on the sound icon
[08:50] <protestingrab> and put everything to max on volume control
[08:50] <protestingrab> there is a hissing sound comming from my speakers but no sound works
[08:51] <protestingrab> and the master volume is @ 100%
[08:52] <stefg> protestingrab: can you paste the outputs of 'lsmod' and 'dmesg' to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:52] <Knag> hi
[08:52] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: you have not got universe repos enabled
[08:52] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, ah ok, I'll enable them. thanks
[08:52] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: do you use Firefox?
[08:52] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, yes....
[08:53] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: there is a repos search engine in it apt;/ also works on anything that accepts a url
[08:54] <binary1> trying to install dsniff and i get "error: Berkeley DB with 1.85 compatibility not found", can someone help
[08:54] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, ah cool, thanks.
[08:54] <arcade> Trying to install Dapper.  Ran into a problem.  I previously installed Breezy, but a 64bit version, so I need to reinstall from scratch to 'upgrade' to Dapper 32bit.  The problem is that although the installer _sees_ my LVM partition, it doesn't let me select'em for filesystems.
[08:54] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: yw :-)
[08:54] <PaoloC> does anybody know why if try to update my system I get the following?
[08:54] <PaoloC> paolo@Italia:~/linux-2.6$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:54] <PaoloC> Reading package lists... Done
[08:54] <PaoloC> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:54] <PaoloC> Calculating upgrade...Done
[08:54] <PaoloC> The following packages have been kept back:
[08:54] <PaoloC>   gnome-cups-manager python-netcdf
[08:54] <PaoloC> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[08:54] <arcade> According to the GUI: "Unable to read the contents of this filesystem!  [..]  Did you install the correct plugin for this filesystem?
[08:54] <Subhuman> !paste
[08:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:55] <frogzoo> protestingrab: turn the vol down, cos you'll blow your ears when it works - then sound -> volume control & disable the mutes, turn up PCM
[08:55] <frogzoo> PaoloC: pastebin dude
[08:55] <PaoloC> sorry, pastebin is not wotking at the moment.
[08:55] <gatekeeper> arcade: tried deleting then recreating the partition?
[08:55] <arcade> frogzoo: Pastebin doesn't accept submissions atm
[08:55] <binary1> trying to install dsniff and i get "error: Berkeley DB with 1.85 compatibility not found", can someone help
[08:55] <arcade> gatekeeper: Uhm .. and losing the data? :D
[08:55] <arcade> gatekeeper: Kind of "not an option" ;)
[08:55] <neighborlee> skavenge, taking out the us. isn't helping at :)
[08:56] <neighborlee> a tal
[08:56] <stefg> pastes could go to #flood in the meantime
[08:56] <neighborlee> at all
[08:56] <fuoco> anyone here ever did capturing video from a camcorder via firewire ?
[08:56] <gatekeeper> arcade: you didn't mention that bit :-)
[08:56] <arcade> gatekeeper: Thought it quite obvious ;)
[08:56] <arcade> gatekeeper: Just wondering if there is a kernel module I need to insmod ;)
[08:56] <neighborlee> skavenge, illl just wait a bit later and likely it will be back up ...
[08:56] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, so...just apt;/search+item+here?
[08:57] <PaoloC> anyway, any suggestion? :-)
[08:57] <arcade> gatekeeper: Or is the filesystem incompatible due to some 64bit magic on it? :)
[08:57] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: apt;/ press return, web page loads off you go
[08:57] <arcade> gatekeeper: .. in which case I won't be able to reinstall today :-/
[08:58] <gatekeeper> arcade: my guess is yes
[08:58] <arcade> ugh.
[08:58] <arcade> :)
[08:58] <jiSh> is there a way to make applications maximize over a gnome panel??
[08:58] <gatekeeper> arcade: can you backup your data, install then restore?
[08:58] <protestingrab> stefg: i pasted the ouputs on that site
[08:58] <arcade> gatekeeper: backing up 390gigs take a LOOOT of time ;)
[08:59] <FurryNemesis> ehm
[08:59] <FurryNemesis> damn
[08:59] <FurryNemesis> who's upgraded to the new kernel?
[08:59] <stefg> k
[08:59] <gatekeeper> arcade: this is breezy 64bit?
[08:59] <FurryNemesis> it broke all my media keys - anyone else have the same prob with Ubuntu 32bit?
[08:59] <arcade> gatekeeper: Yeps, breezy 64bit, and I want to "upgrade" to Dapper 32bit
[08:59] <nn> FurryNemesis: .15?
[08:59] <arcade> gatekeeper: As I'm tired of not having the mplayer codecs I want :)
[09:00] <FurryNemesis_> the one today
[09:00] <FurryNemesis_> so yes
[09:00] <nn> FurryNemesis: uname -a?
[09:00] <gatekeeper> arcade: can't you install 32bit version of mplayer + codecs?
[09:00] <protestingrab> stefg: what do you want me to do now?
[09:00] <boricua> i just upgrade to php5  i did apache restart but phpinfo still shows php 4?
[09:01] <jiSh> is there a way to make applications maximize over a gnome panel??
[09:01] <gatekeeper> arcade: similar trick to get flash working if Firefox!
[09:01] <protestingrab> frogzoo: i am confused by your instructions, sorry I am new to linux
[09:01] <protestingrab> i double clicked the sound icon in the top right
[09:01] <stefg> protestingrab: that's only dmesg.. so you have i810 audio.. i
[09:01] <arcade> gatekeeper: 32bit version not available in repository, compiling it doesn't work as /usr/lib32/libc.so doesn't exist.
[09:01] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i get flash to work like it does in firefox, in swiftfox?
[09:01] <protestingrab> and made sure nothing was muted
[09:01] <stefg> protestingrab: lsmod, too, please
[09:01] <protestingrab> all right
[09:02] <arcade> gatekeeper: apt-get install mplayer-386 didn't work like a charm, to put it that way :)
[09:02] <arcade> gatekeeper: But maybe, if you walk me through it (just let me reboot the box and get back ;)
[09:02] <Warbo> roostishaw: Try getting the installer from Adobe, since that asks where you want to install it (and give it SwiftFox's plugin folder)
[09:02] <PaoloC> I cannot update the sysytem, I'm gonna post the apt-get output in #flood in a second
[09:02] <roostishaw> Warbo, will do. thanks
[09:02] <nn> PaoloC: us mirrors are temporarily down
[09:02] <nn> the interweb is broken
[09:03] <scifi> billybennett: u still here m8 ?
[09:03] <protestingrab> stefg: all right i posted lsmod also
[09:03] <billybennett> scifi, hey
[09:03] <FunnyLookinHat> us.archive.ubuntu.com  ---- down?
[09:03] <nn> FurryNemesis: Yes.
[09:04] <scifi> billybennett: any more suggestions to get this to preview? shud i try playing the dvd in other software first ?
[09:04] <billybennett> ik
[09:04] <Rei_Enna> anyone know how i might go about installing gv?
[09:04] <PaoloC> nn: that's not the problems, it's a few weeks I'm getting that message
[09:04] <Rei_Enna> it doesn't seem to be in the repositories
[09:04] <protestingrab> stefg: never mind i figured it out
[09:04] <stefg> protestingrab: that looks good... your hardware is up... type alsamixer in a terminal and check carefully for turned down volume or muted channels
[09:05] <nn> PaoloC: oh. then you're doomed :\
[09:05] <protestingrab> stefg: yeah i just selected everything and one thing was muted, thanx for your help you and frogzoo
[09:05] <nn> PaoloC: pastein is your buddy :)
[09:05] <stefg> protestingrab: something was muted,
[09:05] <nn> !pastebin > PaoloC
[09:05] <billybennett> scifi, I havent a clue why its not working now.. the part where it has a negative number is odd to me
[09:05] <arcade> gatekeeper: back. :)  How do I install mplayer-32bit on amd64? :)
[09:05] <scifi> hmm i see
[09:05] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, it sends me here.. http://www.aptwebsite.com/
[09:06] <Rieux> hey I cant talk!!!
[09:06] <PaoloC> pastebing is not accepting any post at the moment
[09:06] <Rieux> I can cool
[09:06] <roostishaw> Warbo, it wont let me choose. i have to pick between firefox and opera... :(
[09:06] <digital> where can I find ext2online?
[09:06] <PaoloC> I don't understand this part:  The following packages have been kept back:
   gnome-cups-manager python-netcdf
[09:06] <Wibble-> hey - I having a problem with keyboard layouts.  I've got a standard 105 GB layout, but it doesn't appear to be an option.  It only has this international layout which seems to wait for a further key stroke after I press " for example, so " then a gives ... how can I stop this and just use the keyboard "normally"?
[09:06] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, I Still cant figure out how to get universal for my repo tho..
[09:07] <Warbo> I booted up with my RaLink card in, but it didn't log in (made a login noise, but stuck with just a cursor). I could log in to consoles and top told me that iwlist (I think) was taking up about 99%, but sudo didn't work for me to kill it. I managed to boot up by moving iw* out of /sbin temporarily. I want to know how to prevent this in the future
[09:07] <Subhuman> Wibble-, is this during install?
[09:07] <Subhuman> Wibble-, the gb layout is simply called "gb" and works 100% here.
[09:07] <Wibble-> Subhuman: During install I selected the GB layout that worked - after install it had defaulted back to US
[09:07] <arcade> gatekeeper: forget it, found a niiiice howto :)
[09:07] <Warbo> roostishaw: Well admittedly I haven't used the installer for a while. Last time I did it asked for mozilla's location
[09:07] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: hang on...
[09:07] <Subhuman> Wibble-, goto system/prefs/keyboard
[09:07] <roostishaw> Warbo... hmm.
[09:07] <Wibble-> I'm there
[09:07] <Subhuman> Wibble-, then "layouts - add
[09:08] <arcade> gatekeeper: .. except that ntnu.no is down at the moment :-( (where the package was located)
[09:08] <Subhuman> Wibble-, then 4th from bottom - united kingdom.
[09:08] <Subhuman> then make sure in the lsit
[09:08] <Subhuman> united states is unticked and uk is ticked, and uk is above us
[09:08] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, thx
[09:08] <Wibble-> under "united kingdom" I have two options - dvorak and international with dead keys
[09:08] <gatekeeper> arcade: not sure as I don't have a 64Bit system, others might be able to help, was a bit of lateral thinking from this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:08] <scifi> anyone else use k9copy ?
[09:09] <Subhuman> Wibble-, you dont have to select either - you can jus click the actual "united kingdom" one.
[09:09] <Wibble-> Subhuman: sounds like I'm using a different version of gnome / ubuntu to you - there are no ticks there
[09:09] <Wibble-> OH!!!!!
[09:09] <Wibble-> That was SO not obvious!!!
[09:09] <arcade> gatekeeper: Well, the problem is that mplayer depends on a huge lot of 32bits libraries, which isn't availabe for 64bits ubuntu :-/
[09:09] <Wibble-> thanks Subhuman
[09:09] <jiSh> roostishaw: in terminal, change to your swiftfox directory
[09:09] <gatekeeper> arcade: if you are using the us ones, I think you can try removing .us
[09:09] <Subhuman> Wibble-, i mean once youve selectred it.
[09:09] <arcade> gatekeeper: some guy at ntnu.no has compiled it, but stud.ntnu.no is down at the moment *sigh*
[09:09] <arcade> :-)
[09:09] <roostishaw> jjSh, then run the installer?
[09:09] <capiCrimm> I have a linksys BEFSR41 router, and I can't seem to set my ubuntu machine to a static internal ip adress. :\
[09:09] <arcade> gatekeeper: see: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62685
[09:09] <nn> arcade: it seems much of the interweb is down
[09:09] <Subhuman> Wibble-, all good now then?
[09:09] <arcade> gatekeeper: explains it all :)
[09:10] <capiCrimm> I've edited /etc/network/interfaces
[09:10] <jiSh> roostishaw: and then sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .
[09:10] <gatekeeper> arcade: realplayer 10 ?
[09:10] <Wibble-> Subhuman: Yes, it works perfectly now.  I was under the impression that because it had sub-items I had to select one of them - thanks for your help
[09:10] <Warbo> Any idea why iwlist hogs the CPU so I can't log in?
[09:10] <nn> what's iwlist?
[09:10] <Subhuman> Wibble-, anytime :)
[09:10] <jiSh> roostishaw: make sure you put that dot that's at the end
[09:10] <nn> Ahh wireless stuff
[09:10] <Subhuman> Warbo, no but why cant you jus kill it?
[09:10] <arcade> nn: It's summertime, we sysadmins aren't as active that time of year ;D
[09:10] <AngryElf> what pdf viewers come with ubuntu other that evince?
[09:10] <Warbo> nn: Something to do with networking. Top said it was taking up 99% processor speed, and GNOME wouldn't log in
[09:10] <roostishaw> jjSh, do that from within /home/roostishaw/.swiftfox ?
[09:10] <Subhuman> Warbo, also for wifi management "network-manager" is a great app.
[09:10] <Warbo> Subhuman: sudo didn't work
[09:10] <A[D] minS> my friend installing Ubuntu rite now
[09:10] <A[D] minS> and he got that erorr
[09:11] <capiCrimm> DHCP works fine, though
[09:11] <Warbo> Subhuman: It is when you can log in
[09:11] <nn> Warbo: it's wireless stuff
[09:11] <A[D] minS> an error was returned while trying to install  the kkernel in to the target system
[09:11] <Subhuman> Warbo, i mean apt-get remove it.
[09:11] <gatekeeper> arcade: got for that when it becomes available :-)
[09:11] <A[D] minS> Kernel package : 'linux-386'
[09:11] <mrbrdo> hello.. how can i find out which driver my wlan card (eth2) is using?
[09:11] <A[D] minS> Check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details
[09:11] <arcade> gatekeeper: Yeps :)  Maybe I can knock someone around when I get to Trondheim tomorrow ;)
[09:11] <nn> arcade: I'm usually coding small amounts but mostly sleeping with my wifey
[09:11] <nn> ;)
[09:11] <A[D] minS> so what he can do to finish installtion?
[09:11] <arcade> gatekeeper: (ntnu is in trondheim/norway :)
[09:11] <element`ubuntu> what's that command again to select a different java?
[09:11] <Warbo> I moved everything beginning with iw out of /sbin and rebooted, now it is fine (I moved them back after), but I don't want to do that after every boot
[09:11] <arcade> nn: hehe :)  my future wifey is far too far away atm :-(
[09:11] <nn> arcade: my wifey is in nyc, im in wv! ha.
[09:12] <nn> but thursday!
[09:12] <mrbrdo> how to check which driver a wlan card is using?
[09:12] <arcade> nn: kind of difficult to sleep with her with that distance?!;D
[09:12] <KrisWood> Hello everyone, I'm doing some routine hardware maintenance on my ubuntu box, and was wondering if it's recommended to upgrade to dapper from breezy if everything is working without problems on breezy.
[09:12] <scifi> billybennett: shud i just try copying title 2 and see what happens ?
[09:12] <arcade> nn: "Come september" I say :)  _Then_! :D
[09:12] <roostishaw> jjSh, do that from within /home/roostishaw/.swiftfox ?
[09:12] <nn> arcade: Yea, she went home tuesday, then i go see her next thursday
[09:12] <billybennett> scifi, copy the large video yes
[09:12] <A[D] minS> helloz
[09:12] <nn> arcade: army keeps me on a short leash
[09:12] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: have a look at this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories ohh try apt;/ in konqueor works for me :-)
[09:12] <bbrazil> KrisWood: you only really have to upgrade when security support runs out
[09:12] <skavenge> whats the best NES emulator with a gui? is there one in the repos?
[09:12] <arcade> nn: heh, i live in norway while my fiancee is in the philippines. :-(
[09:13] <nn> ::smile.dk - pink dinosaur:: <- bestest song ever
[09:13] <scifi> billybennett: just tick the video, not the audio as well ?
[09:13] <nn> arcade: Ouch
[09:13] <A[D] minS> any idea with that error in installtion ? an error was returned while trying to install  the kkernel in to the target system  Kernel package : 'linux-386'
[09:13] <nn> but you got a hawt phillipino girl.. so :P
[09:13] <arcade> nn: Damn long distance.  I'm seeing her in september, and if that damned norwegian embassy could just speed up that visa processing...
[09:13] <Warbo> !offtopic
[09:13] <billybennett> scifi, tick video,audio and subtitles if you want it
[09:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:13] <KrisWood> bbrazil: Thanks, so there's no real benefit to upgrading aside from that?
[09:13] <arcade> nn: heh ;)
[09:13] <mrbrdo> how can i check which driver is my wlan card using?
[09:13] <arcade> nn: Met her on IRC, actually :D
[09:13] <Warbo> mrbrdo: "lsmod" gives a list of loaded drivers
[09:13] <bbrazil> KrisWood: you'll get newer versions, but some stuff will break. Unless you need a newer version of something, I wouldn't
[09:13] <mrbrdo> ok thanks i'll try
[09:14] <nn> arcade: met mine on the interweb like a decade ago :P
[09:14] <arcade> nn: Kind of nice opening remarks too. :)  She asked "asl?" and I told her "Go away!" whereupon she respondend "Oh, sorry, i know it's a bad opening, but i'm not feeling creative today" or something like that :D
[09:14] <nn> hahah
[09:14] <KrisWood> bbrazil: thanks :) ok off to upgrade some hardware, have a great day
[09:14] <nn> i helped her fix her computer :P
[09:14] <roostishaw> jjSh, perfect! thanks!
[09:14] <arcade> nn: my first words to my fiancee was "Go away!" ;)
[09:14] <scifi> billybennett: i just want to back it up to mh hard-drive for now, so shall i set output to iso  or dvd-r?
[09:14] <nn> arcade: that's pimp
[09:14] <ironfroggy> anyone know when the US repo servers will be back up?
[09:14] <scifi> my*
[09:14] <arcade> nn: heh.
[09:15] <arcade> nn: not really :)
[09:15] <santa99> good evening, I have a problem with my shutdown. My shutdown starts but it goes only to Will now halt. There it hangs and i have to power off my computer through the Power off button myself. Any ideas how to fix ?
[09:15] <nn> arcade: omg i found ddr ringtones
[09:15] <arcade> nn: huh!? :)
[09:15] <ironfroggy> santa99: sounds like a lack of ACPI
[09:15] <nn> arcade: dance dance revolution
[09:15] <arcade> nn: ugh
[09:15] <arcade> :)
[09:15] <billybennett> keep the output default.. it will store it in your  /tmp/kde-username dir
[09:16] <billybennett> errr scifi
[09:16] <santa99> ironfroggy, any ideas about a fix for it ?
[09:16] <nn> i have every song by every artist that was on ddr :P
[09:16] <ironfroggy> nope. should be configured by default.
[09:16] <billybennett> scifi, keep the output default.. it will store it in your  /tmp/kde-username dir
[09:16] <scifi> billybennett: default is iso-image
[09:16] <ironfroggy> there arent any major backbones down today, are there?
[09:16] <mrbrdo> my wlan card currently seems to be using the "tg3" driver, but i want it to use wlan-ng.. is it possible?
[09:16] <nn> ironfroggy: i'd think so
[09:16] <nn> everything is wonky
[09:17] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: sorted?
[09:17] <billybennett> scifi, 1 sec
[09:17] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, mmm what?
[09:17] <ciplogic> Does anyone know where I should set the Sun Java JRE for Eclipse to run?
[09:17] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: see the repos I sent you?
[09:17] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, nope..I didn't get anything from you
[09:17] <billybennett> scifi, keep default and it will put it in the /tmp/kde-username dir and copy that to somewhere
[09:17] <frogzoo> santa99: see if there's bios update...
[09:18] <farous> ciplogic: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:18] <scifi> billybennett: now just hit "copy" ?
[09:18] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: apt;/ works in konquror for me, take a look at this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:18] <digital> is it possable to unmount /var?
[09:18] <ciplogic> farous: thanks
[09:19] <farous> :)
[09:19] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, ok...
[09:19] <mrbrdo> my wlan card currently seems to be using the "tg3" driver, but i want it to use wlan-ng.. is it possible?
[09:19] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: comment out non-free
[09:19] <frogzoo> digital: not a good idea at best
[09:19] <billybennett> scifi, yes sir
[09:19] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: they are no longer available
[09:19] <digital> frogzoo: What about in single user mode
[09:19] <santa99> frogzoo: ok will take a look for it
[09:19] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, ok, thanks
[09:19] <frogzoo> digital: single user, not a problem
[09:19] <scifi> billybennett: i get a read error :*(
[09:19] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: should give you all you will need
[09:19] <digital> frogzoo: It says it's busy. Any ideas?
[09:19] <frogzoo> digital: sudo fuser -c /var
[09:20] <ironfroggy> how can i list my ssh public keys?
[09:20] <scifi> billybennett: maybe explains why i cant preview it, shall i try cleaning the disc ?
[09:20] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: > !repos
[09:20] <DJ_KeNnY> hello
[09:20] <billybennett> scifi, yeah I was wondering why it was doing that :P
[09:20] <frogzoo> digital: or lsof /var
[09:21] <DJ_KeNnY> what?
[09:21] <DJ_KeNnY> ?
[09:21] <LimeKMag> so I just did an apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper...
[09:21] <DJ_KeNnY> gaming?
[09:21] <DJ_KeNnY> blablabla
[09:21] <LimeKMag> and about 100 packages have been held back
[09:21] <DJ_KeNnY> ok
[09:21] <LimeKMag> how do I figure out why?
[09:21] <thygrrr> is it possible to import my windows thunderbirt mailboxes into evolution?
[09:22] <scifi> billybennett: k, trying again ....
[09:22] <xange> stefg: you still around? the nvidia drives wasn't as easy as made out to be..
[09:22] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, how can I speed up my mouse? it's slow...
[09:22] <ciplogic> LimeKMag: probably you forget the apt-get update !?
[09:22] <xange> gettin API mismatch error
[09:22] <oneeyedelf1> can someone help me, im trying to install build-essential, but when I do apt-get install build-essential, it gives me an error saying package is not available
[09:22] <billybennett> scifi, I gotta go eat lunch bbl
[09:22] <LimeKMag> ciplogic: I did an apt-get update first
[09:22] <Warbo> oneeyedelf1: The US package mirror is down at the moment
[09:23] <gatekeeper> LimeKMag: when I tried that things like open office where not installed, however using update-manager everthing was installed, only problem I had was I had to re-enable the ethernet card
[09:23] <oneeyedelf1> Warbo: so what do I do?
[09:23] <digital> frogzoo: Nothing is using anything in /var but I still get "busy".
[09:23] <frogzoo> oneeyedelf1: us repos are down - use a different repo
[09:23] <interfear> I want to create a 150gb ext2 filesystem, should I use fdisk for this or is there some graphical tool built into ubuntu?
[09:23] <arcade> YAY!  YAY !  YAY!  YAY!  Finally  32 bits mplayer on my Ubuntu!
[09:23] <interfear> just as a dump partition
[09:23] <oneeyedelf1> frogzoo: how do I add other repo?
[09:23] <Warbo> oneeyedelf1: You can keep everything how it is and wait, or you can change your repositories
[09:23] <Warbo> !easysource
[09:23] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:23] <arcade> gatekeeper: Yayy! :)  It wooooorks! :D
[09:24] <frogzoo> digital: must be something - it's not your shell?
[09:24] <interfear> arcade: whats that
[09:24] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: try System Settings -> mouse
[09:24] <LimeKMag> hmm... found one place I missed changing breezy to dapper in my apt sources.list
[09:24] <digital> frogzoo: I'm not sshing into the box
[09:24] <gatekeeper> arcade: maplayer 32bit?
[09:24] <digital> frogzoo: Keyboard and mouse
[09:24] <gatekeeper> LimeKMag: ooops :-)
[09:24] <arcade> gatekeeper: Yepsie! :)
[09:25] <digital> frogzoo: I'll have to figure it out later.
[09:25] <arcade> gatekeeper: Now I'll just swear at some missing realvideo things :D
[09:25] <ciplogic> There is an repository in Ubuntu where I can get monodevelop version 0.11 !?
[09:25] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, ah there we go! Rock on.  thanks.  nextly...do you have any experience with dual monitors or have time to help me set mine up?  I can't figure it out for the life of me...
[09:25] <digital> frogzoo: All I nreally need to do is give more space to /var/www. I'm using LVM. I'll create another Logical Volume
[09:25] <arcade> gatekeeper: as this thing is *sigh* mplayer pre6, and I've got the codecs for pre8 ;)
[09:25] <digital> Thanks!
[09:25] <ciplogic> I pgrade to edgy but I have the same 0.10 version
[09:25] <stefg> xange: what's teh prob?
[09:25] <ciplogic> And 0.11 appears for around 2 mounths
[09:25] <xange> the nvidia kernal module has the version 1.0-7174, but this X module has the version 1.0-8762 - how can I fix this?
[09:26] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: not really with linux sorry
[09:26] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, bummer..ok thx
[09:26] <frogzoo> digital: lsof +D /var
[09:26] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: I think you need 2 sections with basically the same info
[09:27] <stefg> xange: you already tried to install the nvidia-installer from the nvidia-site, didn't you?
[09:27] <Rei_Enna> i think i just did something very horrible
[09:27] <trev__> does anyone know what repository audacity is in?
[09:27] <knapper> How do I delete something from sessions that is greyed out?
[09:27] <xange> no...
[09:27] <Rei_Enna> ctrl-z'd apt-get update
[09:27] <Rei_Enna> now its broken
[09:27] <interfear> ok so i want to make a 150gb dump partition, anyone know how to go about this.. fdisk? does ubuntu have a gui version?
[09:27] <nn> Rei_Enna: fg! :)
[09:27] <rpedro> Rei_Enna: type 'fg'
[09:27] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: you could try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:27] <stefg> xange: what does uname -r tell
[09:27] <Rei_Enna> "no such job"?
[09:27] <mrbrdo> how to make a wlan card use WLAN-NG instead of TG3 driver?
[09:27] <coachJ> are you having trouble getting audacity?
[09:28] <gatekeeper> arcade: excellent :-)
[09:28] <interfear> like the partitioning program used in the ubuntu install, anyone know how to run that within ubuntu?
[09:28] <rpedro> Rei_Enna: you have to type it on the same terminal
[09:28] <Awesome-o2000> dump partition? never heard of that
[09:28] <xange> 2.6.15-26-adm64-generic
[09:28] <Rei_Enna> uh... i've since closed that terminal
[09:28] <Rei_Enna> T.T
[09:28] <interfear> Awesome-o2000: just a big partition to "dump" files, music movies etc
[09:28] <scifi> anyone know a good app for backing up dvds ?
[09:28] <coachJ> knapper: are you having trouble getting audicitty
[09:28] <ciplogic> scifi: there are more: k3b or gnome-backer
[09:28] <gatekeeper> arcade: if you decide to update when I did it using 32Bit using update-manager was more successfull than trying it manually
[09:28] <knapper> coachJ, no, installing xgl/compiz
[09:28] <ciplogic> or even: nautilus
[09:28] <stefg> xange: oh, so the 64-bit driver wasn't properly updated in the repos, i think
[09:29] <Awesome-o2000> interfear, I dont know about the gui tools but the console ones are rather easy...
[09:29] <xange> stefg: so just want for a week or two?
[09:29] <interfear> Awesome-o2000: yeh, what would you use?
[09:29] <xange> s/want/wait/
[09:29] <scifi> ciplogic: really? nautilus can do it ?
[09:29] <gatekeeper> !dual monitor
[09:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about dual monitor - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:29] <arcade> gatekeeper: and now realvid works too :)
[09:29] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: ^^^
[09:29] <arcade> gatekeeper: Ahh, how everything just works out when you finally find what you need :D
[09:29] <gatekeeper> arcade: on a role :-)
[09:29] <Awesome-o2000> interfear, it depends, personally I'd use ext2fs, since its just a dump partition, but Im unsure about size limits
[09:29] <ciplogic> scifi: it can create ISO
[09:29] <arcade> gatekeeper: Now maybe I can manage to play dvds too :D
[09:29] <ciplogic> scifi: then to write them
[09:29] <FurryNemesis_> !compiz
[09:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:30] <stefg> xange: you could try to build the nvidia-module yourself ... know module-assistant?
[09:30] <gatekeeper> arcade: you never know
[09:30] <scifi> ciplogic: how do i get it to create an iso ?
[09:30] <FurryNemesis_> !xpi
[09:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about xpi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:30] <element`ubuntu> gatekeeper, should I use nv or nvidia? I have an nvidia card... (also, how do I make sure I have the latest drivers?)
[09:30] <trev__> i prefere audacity from a repository so synaptic can handle it if i need a upgrade or dependency
[09:30] <xange> stefg: I think I've used it before, but I forget...
[09:30] <gatekeeper> arcade: lateral thinking required
[09:30] <FurryNemesis_> !xgl
[09:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:30] <arcade> gatekeeper: Btw; how do I TURN OFF ubuntu trying to be user-friendly with things inserted into the dvd-player? :)
[09:30] <Rei_Enna> how do i fix it if i've closed the terminal?
[09:30] <ciplogic> scifi: everthing you write in CD/DVD write section
[09:30] <coachJ> !java
[09:30] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:31] <ciplogic> scifi: you may write to an ISO
[09:31] <skavenge> arcade: system -> preferences -> removable drives and media
[09:31] <TheAsp> us.archive.u.c down?
[09:31] <gatekeeper> arcade: don't know sorry, one of the oters might :-)
[09:31] <coachJ> yes
[09:31] <ciplogic> scifi: when you have a CD/DVD inserted, you have the option: copy disk
[09:31] <scifi> ciplogic: ok i wonder if xfces file manager thunar, will also do that
[09:31] <arcade> skavenge: ugh, i don't use gnome :)
[09:32] <phil> hello all
[09:32] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: not sure, I have so far bottled out of using the latest drivers :-)
[09:32] <arcade> skavenge: which _file_ do I edit? :D
[09:32] <skavenge> no idea then
[09:32] <stefg> xange: sudo apt-get install module-assistant linux-headers-`uname -r`  first
[09:32] <skavenge> *shrug* i do it the easy way ;)
[09:32] <phil> does anyone know if we can make one drive with many little hard disks
[09:32] <arcade> skavenge: ubuntus main disadvantage for me is that it's _overly_ userfriendly ;)
[09:32] <ciplogic> scifi: I don't know so good XFCE but most person I know that use XFCE say that GNOME is bloated (has too many options that user need)
[09:33] <skavenge> arcade: thats the point of the distro
[09:33] <gatekeeper> phil: you mean lots of partitions?
[09:33] <arcade> skavenge: Yeah, but it's so sexy in all the _other_ ways :)
[09:33] <xange> stefg: downloading/installing now
[09:33] <RRubin> does anyone sell laptops with breezy pre-installed where everything works?
[09:33] <Samineru> What programs do you guys suggest for a sort of itunes alternative besides rhythmbox, also for some reason rhythmbox opens at every startup even though it is not on my startup list.
[09:33] <Samineru> which I want to stop
[09:33] <arcade> skavenge: So I prefer it to other distros ;D
[09:33] <FurryNemesis_> amrok?
[09:34] <RRubin> Samineru: you mean you want to buy music? or just a player?
[09:34] <oneeyedelf1> thanks Warbo and frogzoo, I added the Candian repositories
[09:34] <analiser> hi
[09:34] <Samineru> rrubin just a player
[09:35] <analiser> some body use a orinoco gold
[09:35] <RRubin> Samineru: i reccomend beep-media-player
[09:35] <analiser> i cant put the card on monitor mode
[09:35] <Samineru> rrubin thank you
[09:35] <scifi> ciplogic: hmm i think there something wrong, i can read and browse the files fine on the DVD, but i cant seem to play any of the vob files
[09:35] <Rikkimaru> Where can I find a sound driver for my laptop?
[09:35] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: I would first try to get dual monitors working with the drivers you are currently using, then install the nvidia drivers at the end
[09:36] <gatekeeper> !nvidia
[09:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:36] <ciplogic> scifi: you need to add restricted formats
[09:36] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: ^^^^
[09:36] <analiser> some body use a orinoco gold
[09:36] <Tamale> How can I use firefox in Ubuntu to view the trailers on this page?
[09:36] <Tamale> http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/teenagemutantninjaturtles/hd/
[09:36] <ciplogic> scifi: you should enable your multiverse repository for doing that
[09:36] <nn> Tamale: Nooooooooooooooooo
[09:36] <Tamale> I can't?
[09:36] <ciplogic> scifi: look here usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/bin/
[09:36] <nn> tmnt == evil
[09:37] <Samineru> rrubin I was looking for something with more of a library function as opposed to just winamp style
[09:37] <ciplogic> Nope :)
[09:37] <xange> ok, while I am not able to use X (err nvidia) can I change the 'resolution' of terminal?
[09:37] <scifi> ciplogic: i think i already enabled multiverse, but what restricted formats do i need to add ?
[09:37] <ciplogic> scifi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:37] <Tamale> i don't even want to view it in the browser, i just want to download the video files
[09:37] <ciplogic> scifi: Look at section: Playing encrypted DVDs
[09:38] <Samineru> rrubin also for some reason my computer seems to be unable to play mp3s
[09:38] <xange> stefg: installed
[09:38] <billybennett> scifi, did you get it to read?
[09:38] <stefg> xange: it just came to my mind that if the nvidia-glx isn't matching, probably the source won't either
[09:38] <RRubin> Samineru: if you dont mind doing something complex, check out ampache
[09:38] <scifi> ciplogic: will take a look thnx. what am i also looking for in that java folder ?
[09:38] <analiser> some body can helpme whit a orinoco card on ubuntu
[09:38] <amee2k> hi all
[09:38] <rdemanow> any wireless networking gurus onboard?
[09:38] <RRubin> Samineru: its an apache/php based mp3 library.. so you can stream to anywhere or play local
[09:38] <xange> stefg: :( hehe aight thanks...so just wait for a week or two and give it another try?
[09:38] <ciplogic> scifi: I was another paste in my clipboard
[09:38] <gatekeeper> Tamale: works for me in kaffine, probable need the correct codes
[09:39] <scifi> billybennett: no i think it may be because i dont have some restricted formats installed
[09:39] <scifi> ciplogic: ok lol
[09:39] <stefg> xange but build-essential and headers anyway are the prerequisites for building the driver from nvidia.com
[09:39] <amee2k> has anyone else experienced that nautilus is inherently unstable when dealing with networked resources on x64?
[09:39] <ciplogic> scifi: Take care because restricted formats apply in patent-free countries
[09:39] <ciplogic> scifi: as in Europe :)
[09:39] <Tamale> gatekeeper:  what is kaffine ?
[09:39] <RRubin> amee2k: i have experienced that nautilus is unstable when dealing with networked resourecs period
[09:40] <schmity> where do i go for gnome stuff
[09:40] <cpk2> rdemanow: ask your question and maybe you will find out =)
[09:40] <stefg> xange: so you could get the dribver from the nvidia-site, put it in /usr/src and try if it builds
[09:40] <digital> frogzoo: lsof +D /var = nothing
[09:40] <ciplogic> scifi: never give the fault to me if RIIA will came to me to judge my intention to help you playing a DVD :)
[09:40] <rdemanow> the ubuntu desktop bootable CD recognizes my Linksys WMP55AG wireless card, but won't connect to the network.
[09:40] <amee2k> RRubin: so that's not an x64 connected issue? when is it going to be improved?
[09:40] <billybennett> rdemanow, are you using wpa?
[09:40] <scifi> ciplogic: lol
[09:40] <Samineru> rrubin is ampache in synaptics?
[09:40] <rdemanow> billybennett: WEP 128-bit
[09:40] <Samineru> rrubin cause I cannot find it
[09:41] <billybennett> rdemanow, n/m
[09:41] <gatekeeper> I am using KDE, is a media player, guess gnome has an equivalent
[09:41] <cpk2> kinda embarrasing but whats the command to copy dirs? cp doesnt work heh
[09:41] <xange> brb
[09:41] <Tamale> the buttons don't even show up on apple's pages.. i'm assuming my quicktime plugin for firefox isn't working properly
[09:41] <amee2k> cpk2: cp -r
[09:41] <RRubin> Samineru: no, ampache.org
[09:41] <Samineru> oh
[09:41] <RRubin> some day it will be
[09:41] <cpk2> amee2k: thanks
[09:41] <amee2k> np :)
[09:42] <stefg> xange: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-8762/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8762-pkg2.run
[09:42] <xange> forgot to startup w/screen last time :)
[09:42] <rdemanow> I've used iwconfig to set the key and all that fun stuff, it appears to be attached to the router, but dhclient can't get an address for it
[09:42] <Samineru> rrubin btw I keep getting this whenever I run a package manager type application  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18636
[09:42] <omac> what's up with us.archive.ubuntu.com?  I can't seem to install anything today.
[09:42] <nn> omac: it's down, remove us. from your /etc/apt/sources.lst lines and run 'apt-get update' to resolve this until they are back up
[09:42] <cpk2> rdemanow: you go to this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking?highlight=%28network%29%7C%28wireless%29
[09:42] <nn> It's a known issue, since apparently half of the interweb is broken today
[09:43] <stefg> xange: ctrl-alt-f1... sudo killall gdm
[09:43] <stefg> see you in console :-)
[09:43] <Samineru> rrubin also i feel a little n00bish to ask, but how does one usually go about installing something from a tarball
[09:43] <gatekeeper> Tamale: got to run, if you are using xine, probable need to install  libxine-extracodecs
[09:43] <Tamale> i'm not using any movie player
[09:44] <Tamale> i just want to download the files.
[09:44] <cpk2> Samineru: untar it then ./configure then make install
[09:44] <mrbrdo> my wlan card currently seems to be using the "tg3" driver, but i want it to use wlan-ng.. is it possible? how can i change it
[09:44] <ciplogic> Tamale: you may install gstreamer-ffmpeg & ffmpeg to play regular movies in Totem, Kaffeine
[09:44] <gatekeeper> element`ubuntu: hope you sort the rest of your problems, got to run. good luck! :-)
[09:44] <analiser> some body can helpme whit a orinoco card on ubuntu
[09:44] <avalost> what can I open ASF vid streams with?
[09:44] <rdemanow> cpk2 yeah, I've done all that, but when I enter the WEP key it just sits there at a DHCP dialog for a long time, then drops back and I'm still not connected to the network
[09:45] <Tamale> ciplogic:  i just want to view webpages built with quicktime, like the apple movie page
[09:45] <Tamale> so i can download the files there.
[09:45] <Awesome-o2000> weak! gaim yahoo isnt signing in
[09:45] <Tamale> i think yahoo is down.
[09:45] <ciplogic> Tamale: I cannot help you
[09:45] <avalost> my yahoo just kicked me off
[09:45] <scifi> ciplogic: grrrrrr, synaptic shows libdvdread3 is already installed, so i typed in the sudo command line to install libdvdcss2. but it still doesnt play :*(
[09:45] <Tamale> ciplogic:  does the apple movie page work for you? :] 
[09:45] <avalost> anyone: ASF video streams? KNow what to use to play them?
[09:45] <assasukasse> hi all
[09:45] <assasukasse> what happens if i install a deb package on ubuntu
[09:46] <assasukasse> since the one in the ubuntu repo is a bit oldie
[09:46] <farous> Tamale: i do not know how you can download them (if possible). Mozilla-mplayer will help you watch them though
[09:46] <Tamale> they provide links to download
[09:46] <Tamale> but the "links" are quicktime buttons
[09:46] <ciplogic> Tamale: give to me the link please
[09:46] <Tamale> http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/teenagemutantninjaturtles/hd/
[09:46] <Rikkimaru> Where can I find a sound driver for my laptop?
[09:46] <stefg> !codecs > avalost
[09:46] <Samineru> rrubin does not seem to be working...
[09:46] <farous> Tamale: i think you need to config firefox to download instead of view in page
[09:46] <Samineru> there is no config file in the folder
[09:46] <avalost> stefg: I have all windows codecs
[09:47] <ciplogic> Tamale: you have right, doesn't work :)
[09:47] <avalost> !codecs
[09:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:47] <Tamale> does it work in any other browser?
[09:47] <Tamale> i was considering trying opera anyway
[09:47] <Tamale> hah
[09:47] <frogzoo> assasukasse: things may break in horrible ways
[09:48] <farous> Tamale: opera do not run embeded mplayer unless you recompile mplayer without gtk support
[09:48] <analiser> anyone:i cant put in monitor mode mi orinoco gold card on ubuntu 6.06..
[09:48] <Tamale> so their "buttons" are actually movie files?
[09:48] <stefg> avalost: then your best bet is trying either with mplayer-plugin or get the url extracted manually and try to play it with vlc
[09:48] <Tamale> that must be played?
[09:48] <ciplogic> Tamale: for now there is no QuickTime plugin for Linux
[09:48] <Tamale> ciplogic:  THANK YOU.
[09:49] <Tamale> that's all i really wanted to know lol.
[09:49] <stefg> !info libquicktime
[09:49] <ubotu> Package libquicktime does not exist in dapper
[09:49] <farous> ciplogic: mplayer-plugin will play quitcktime i am using it here
[09:49] <ciplogic> We must stride to convince apple that Ubuntu has the 60% of market share that Apple does
[09:49] <Tamale> in firefox ?
[09:49] <skavenge> yes it will
[09:49] <farous> Tamale: correct
[09:49] <analiser> anyone:i cant put in monitor mode mi orinoco gold card on ubuntu 6.06..
[09:49] <ciplogic> And to provide a a gstreamer for quicktime
[09:49] <Tamale> farous:  could you help me set it up?
[09:49] <xange> sorry stefg, my console confused me :) - the reolution is funky and my login area is off the screen
[09:49] <stefg> !info libquicktime0
[09:49] <ubotu> libquicktime0: A library for reading and writing Quicktime files. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.7-0.4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1076 kB
[09:49] <Tamale> farous, ciplogic, could we go into another channel ?
[09:50] <farous> Tamale: it is better to look at restrictedformats page
[09:50] <farous> !restrictedformats
[09:50] <stefg> xange: did it build?
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <farous> then install mozilla-mplayer
[09:50] <omac> nn: thank you.  I did a search replace of us.archive to ca.archive in my sources.list, did an update and voila back to normal for installing packages.  Thanks.
[09:50] <xange> stefg: I didn't get to download it, can you post the URL again plz
[09:50] <ciplogic> Tamale: go to #ubuntuformats
[09:50] <linux_user400354> !pastebin
[09:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:51] <stefg> xange: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-8762/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8762-pkg2.run
[09:51] <analiser> anyone:i cant put in monitor mode mi orinoco gold card on ubuntu 6.06..
[09:52] <rdemanow> when entering my WEP key in hex mode, does it need separators e.g. 1234-5678-9abc-de, or is it entered as a simple hex digit stream?
[09:53] <modulus> hi, trying to use ubuntu 6.06 alteernate i386 CD my CD drive doesn't get detected. this is a relatively ancient laptop. i'm almost sure that it should work on linux with some drivers, but no clue which. any help? also i get told something about IRQpoll on boot-up
[09:53] <stefg> xange: put it to /usr/src,change to the console , cd /usr/src, chmod +x  NVIDIA-Linux... , then ./NVIDIA-Linux...
[09:53] <K^Holtz> My printer was found fine when i clicked add a new printer.. it found my Canon Pixma iP5000.. but after that step it asks me what driver to use.. and the IP5000 is not listed in the driver window.. theres the IP4000, but it didnt even default to picking that one.. i tried to use the one it defaulted too, but the pages is just pending and nothing is happening
[09:53] <stefg> xange: btw... be root beforehand by sudo -s
[09:54] <Hisham> Hey, i'm dont have any tasks in the bottom bar in ubuntu
[09:54] <Hisham> why's that
[09:54] <Hisham> i Dont**
[09:55] <xange> stefg: so switch to root and ./NVIDIA-Linux*.run
[09:55] <Warbo> Hisham: Maybe the applet got deleted. Try adding it again ("window switcher" or something)
[09:55] <frogzoo> Hisham: you need to add 'windoww list' app
[09:55] <linux_user400354> can someone please help? i have a picture of the error i am getting from vsftpd. i cant login. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18637
[09:55] <stefg> xange: yup... chmod +x the file as root before
[09:55] <K^Holtz> Why is my printer going so sloww
[09:55] <Hisham> Done thanks a lot
[09:55] <Hisham> :0
[09:55] <Hisham> :)
[09:56] <stefg> xange: and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf then and replace 'driver nv' with nvidia, as the installer will tell you
[09:56] <xange> ugh, its all funky
[09:56] <A[D] minS> !nvidia
[09:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <stefg> Linux is not windows... whistle...
[09:57] <xange> stefg: no its because I was using screen
[09:57] <xange> :)
[09:57] <A[D] minS> xange: take alook here better https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <idefix_> how do you know if something is installed from source or from binary on your PC?
[09:57] <modulus> more importantly, why would you care? :-)
[09:58] <xange> steffo: It's saying that no precomiled kernel interfaces were found on the nvidia ftp site
[09:58] <xange> woops
[09:58] <eigenlambda> idefix: try strings?
[09:58] <xange> stefg: ^
[09:58] <eigenlambda> see what its compiled with, lol
[09:58] <eigenlambda> hm
[09:58] <idefix_> is there already a special kind of ctrl-C that switches the selected from whatever was on your clipboard?
[09:58] <_marshall_> hey guys
[09:58] <Hisham> Can anyone walk me through how to install a tar.gz app
[09:58] <dave_m> Can anyone help me with printing from XP to a printer connected to my Ubuntu machine?
[09:58] <Hisham> on ubuntu
[09:58] <MonsieurBon> what's wrong with the ubuntu firefox package that some extensions do not work properly?
[09:59] <SanketMedhi> MonsieurBon: like which?
[09:59] <stefg> xange: yes, that's normal... you're going to build it
[09:59] <idefix_> Hisham no but I'd like to know how
[09:59] <_marshall_> does anybody know a good howto for a beginner setting up a LAMP server?
[09:59] <MonsieurBon> SanketMedhi: Foxtrick
[09:59] <stefg> !lamp
[09:59] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:59] <xange> stefg: so tell it no that I don't want to try and download one?
[09:59] <idefix_> Hisham how do you know if things are installed from source or from binary on your PC
[09:59] <idefix_> hisham did you just download something from the repos with synaptic packet manager?
[09:59] <Hisham> I dont know
[09:59] <stefg> xange: no, don't try to download
[09:59] <Hisham> no
[09:59] <idefix_> Hisham did you just download something from the repos with synaptic packet manager?
[09:59] <SanketMedhi> MonsieurBon: sorry, never used that. but Firefox extensions work same for all systems afaik.
[09:59] <idefix_> oh sorry
[10:00] <Hisham> i got it from sourceforge
[10:00] <idefix_> Hisham?you don't know?
[10:00] <scifi> ciplogic/billybennett: think were getting somwhere now, i logged back into ubuntu in gnome and dvd playback works. so gonna try to recopy it and preview now
[10:00] <ciplogic> scifi: great :)
[10:00] <bbrazil> waht's the keystroke to bring up the application menu in gnome?
[10:01] <xange> sick, it worked :) thanks stefg
[10:01] <ciplogic> scifi: I logged on XFCE and I have no sound :)
[10:01] <MonsieurBon> SanketMedhi: What not works is this: It should read a CSS Skin for the page www.hattrick.org from a zip-file in the extension dir. It does not see the zip file. I had FF 1.5 installed in /opt/firefox in breezy as there was only an old FF version from the repo and the extension worked fine.
[10:01] <stefg> xange: now for /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:01] <xange> already done :)
[10:01] <scifi> ciplogic/billybennett: hehe dam xfce :P
[10:01] <nvez> can i make xchat display color tags in the topic textbox?
[10:01] <idefix_> if you mark something for installation in synaptic and click on apply it isn't yet installed on your machine yet is it? or isn't it?
[10:01] <xange> restarted gdm and got the nvidia logo screen when it started up
[10:01] <Raito> I have a Windows program that I can run in wine, only problem is, it only seems to work if the terminal I am in is inside the folder of the binary. I want to make a launcher for it, but is it possible to put two commands when I click the launcher as opposed to one? because then it would work. How would I do this?
[10:01] <stefg> xange: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:02] <SanketMedhi> MonsieurBon: is Firefox detecting the extension first of all?
[10:02] <SanketMedhi> ?
[10:02] <MonsieurBon> SanketMedhi: yes. The extension does a few other tweaks on the page and they all work fine
[10:02] <stefg> xange: glxinfo | grep direct
[10:03] <Hisham> ?
[10:03] <SanketMedhi> MonsieurBon: sorry I don't have enough time to try that extension, you should go to the firefox channel instead of being here
[10:04] <godtvisken> Uhm.. I am trying to compile something through source but I get the error, "bash: make: command not found" But I have gcc and such and have done this before..
[10:04] <xange> stefg: direct rendering: yes
[10:04] <MonsieurBon> SanketMedhi: i think that it's not a FF related problem but an ubuntu-FF related but I'll ask in the FF channel
[10:04] <stefg> xange: and for posing purposes: glxgears -printfps
[10:04] <godtvisken> I get the error even as root
[10:04] <stefg> :-D
[10:04] <Awesome-o2000> friendly fire channel?
[10:04] <K^Holtz> Can someone please help me make by printer not be INSANELY slow?
[10:05] <Awesome-o2000> K^Holtz, take a hammer to it!
[10:05] <cpk2> !gcc
[10:05] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:05] <rohan> there is something wrong with liferea in ubuntu - even if i start liferea with "liferea --mainwindow-state=hidden" it still pops up the window
[10:05] <rohan> is it a known problem ?
[10:05] <rohan> if not can someone confirm it for me please ?
[10:06] <cpk2> godtvisken: you apt-get build-essential?
[10:06] <rohan> can someone please confirm for me that "liferea --mainwindow-state=hidden" still pops up the window ?
[10:07] <rohan> so that i can proceed to file a bug if need be ?
[10:07] <pc4> ?
[10:08] <pc4> ??
[10:08] <rohan> pc4: ? to me ?
[10:08] <scifi> how do i enable DMA for dvd-drive, i heard its a good thing to do
[10:08] <rohan> scifi: man hdparm.conf
[10:08] <Hisham> Hey, where can i find C++ preprocessor
[10:08] <Hisham> causse i am missing it?
[10:08] <stefg> scifi: on dapper it's enabled by deafult
[10:08] <farous> !dma
[10:08] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[10:08] <scifi> stefg: k thx
[10:09] <rohan> Hisham: what are you trying to do ?
[10:09] <Hisham> install kmess
[10:09] <rohan> Hisham: in most cases, sudo apt-get install build-essential will solve it, Hisham
[10:09] <Hisham> gives me
[10:09] <Hisham> an error
[10:10] <Rikkimaru> Where can I find a sound driver for my laptop?
[10:10] <SanketMedhi> !sound
[10:10] <Hisham> sudo apt-get install build-essential, doesnt work
[10:10] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:10] <distanceisdeath> What is a good weather applet for ubuntu?
[10:10] <stefg> !sound > Rikkimaru
[10:10] <SanketMedhi> !sound > Rikkimaru
[10:10] <SanketMedhi> umm
[10:10] <SanketMedhi> distanceisdeath: yes it is
[10:10] <distanceisdeath> SanketMedhi: what
[10:10] <farous> locat build-essential
[10:11] <farous> locate build-essential
[10:11] <darknessofevil> you know what i don't like about ubuntu? the lack of packages available vs debian
[10:11] <idefix_> when trying to play something with the just installed mplayer I get "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
[10:11] <modulus> hi, trying to use ubuntu 6.06 alteernate i386 CD my CD drive doesn't get detected. this is a relatively ancient laptop. i'm almost sure that it should work on linux with some drivers, but no clue which. any help? also i get told something about IRQpoll on boot-up
[10:11] <idefix_> hope I'm not trolling anything
[10:11] <farous> find build-essential
[10:11] <rohan> darknessofevil: name one pkg which is in debian but not ubuntu
[10:11] <darknessofevil> i mean not updated
[10:11] <Rikkimaru> system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector doesn't exit.
[10:11] <GlassCasket> The Ubuntu and Kubuntu installer are the same thing, right?
[10:11] <Rikkimaru> exist
[10:11] <stefg> farous: what are you trying#
[10:11] <darknessofevil> like chmviewer, its still @ 1.3 while debians @ 2.5
[10:12] <darknessofevil> and ive learned linux enough that im switching to a real distro
[10:12] <darknessofevil> either gentoo or debian (heh 1 of my friends runs one, the other runs the other)
[10:12] <farous> stefg: i think i do not remember the ubotu commands anymore trying to help hisham
[10:12] <kaot> darknessofevil: slackware ftw
[10:12] <darknessofevil> probably debian since im used to apt-get but gentoo would take fscking forever to compile everything
[10:12] <farous> stefg: build-essentail should be in main but am not sure
[10:12] <kaot> darknessofevil: or just go straight for fbsd
[10:12] <kaot> :\
[10:12] <stefg> farous: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:12] <frogzoo> are there any freenode servers that allow irc connection from port 80?
[10:12] <root> hey I need help
[10:12] <darknessofevil> (my friend actually did that, took a while with stage3)
[10:13] <farous> stefg: i have it installed. do not remember which repos it is in though
[10:13] <darknessofevil> as my friends like to say... ubuntu is a bastardized version of debian
[10:13] <darknessofevil> heh
[10:13] <kaot> hm.  my friends say, "Linux?  Nerd."
[10:13] <stefg> !info buil-essential > farous
[10:13] <ubotu> Package buil-essential does not exist in dapper
[10:13] <fishy> Does Ubuntu support multiple monitors?
[10:13] <codecaine> hi when I do ctrl + alt + f2 or other f's all I can do is gui mode
[10:13] <stefg> !info build-essential > farous
[10:13] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[10:13] <codecaine> f7
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> GlassCasket: No
[10:13] <_marshall_> darknessofevil: pfft
[10:13] <codecaine> what could cause this?
[10:13] <modulus> get new freinds
[10:13] <kaot> hm
[10:13] <kaot> Glass Casket's pretty good.
[10:13] <kaot> saw thm in Worcester.
[10:13] <farous> stefg: ok but this should be to hisham thanx
[10:13] <root> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop doesn't work
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> fishy: yes
[10:14] <stefg> ok... :-)
[10:14] <Gullstad> !tell fishy about dualhead
[10:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about dualhead - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:14] <hackel> fishy:  It has nothing to do with Ubuntu, it's your video card capabilities along with the driver used (such as an X.org driver)
[10:14] <rohan> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/53761
[10:14] <root> everytime it tries to download a package it can't connect
[10:14] <erik_> Hey- after I installed XGL-Compiz, somehow shift+backspace was mapped to kill the xserver. I keep accidentally hitting it.. How do I set it to only be ctrl+alt+backspace again?
[10:14] <rohan> please confirm that for me, someone
[10:14] <GlassCasket> The Ubuntu and Kubuntu installer are the same thing, right?
[10:14] <Hisham> !info buil-essential > Hisham
[10:14] <ubotu> Package buil-essential does not exist in dapper
[10:14] <Hisham> !info buil-essential
[10:14] <ubotu> Package buil-essential does not exist in dapper
[10:14] <distanceisdeath> what is a good weather application for gnome?
[10:14] <stefg> !chatasroot
[10:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about chatasroot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:14] <apokryphos> !info build-essential
[10:14] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[10:14] <farous> Hisham: it is build-essential
[10:14] <SanketMedhi> distanceisdeath: the applet
[10:14] <Hisham> what is?
[10:14] <Hisham> i dont get it
[10:14] <distanceisdeath> SanketMedhi: what is that
[10:15] <Hisham> whatd o i do?
[10:15] <root> anyone?
[10:15] <fishy> !schedule
[10:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:15] <erik_> root- I switched my repos to canada for today cause the US ones aren't working... - http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:15] <root> !repeat
[10:15] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:15] <frogzoo> distanceisdeath: weather report applet?
[10:15] <SanketMedhi> distanceisdeath: right click on Panel, Add to Panel
[10:15] <farous> Hisham: sudo aptitude search build-essential
[10:15] <distanceisdeath> SanketMedhi: im on fluxbox
[10:15] <farous> Hisham: or use synaptic
[10:15] <SanketMedhi> distanceisdeath: then this is not the place you should be
[10:15] <Jowi> hi all
[10:16] <GlassCasket> HOw come Ubuntu didn't ask em any questions regarding Grub?
[10:16] <SanketMedhi> !fluxbox
[10:16] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[10:16] <distanceisdeath> SanketMedhi: i know but i figured it would be in the menu somewhere
[10:16] <SanketMedhi> distanceisdeath: its a gnome-panel app, it won't work in Fluxbox
[10:16] <tommy18crowe> I can't download apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:16] <distanceisdeath> SanketMedhi: oh okay nevermind then thanks
[10:16] <tommy18crowe> I get errors when it tries to download a package
[10:16] <tmccrary> with libdvdcss, is it possible to skip bad sectors? I'm making some archival backups of my dvd collection and I'm running into arcoss protection on some of my discs.
[10:16] <tuxtux> ciao
[10:16] <WarOfAttrition> distanceisdeath, try gdesklets, it has some weather things
[10:17] <tommy18crowe> !xubuntu
[10:17] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:17] <idefix_> how many hours a day can you maximally spend behind computers?
[10:17] <SanketMedhi> distanceisdeath: search in Synaptic, you will get something, np
[10:17] <tmccrary> !tripe
[10:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about tripe - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:17] <tmccrary> !your mom
[10:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about your mom - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:17] <distanceisdeath> WarOfAttrition: gdesklets?
[10:17] <farous> tmccrary: try messeging ubotu in private if you have more then one quest
[10:17] <tmccrary> !farous
[10:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about farous - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:17] <SanketMedhi> distanceisdeath: wmspaceweather is an app for flux in ubuntu
[10:18] <WarOfAttrition> yes you can load it in any wm I think distanceisdeath
[10:18] <SanketMedhi> distanceisdeath: sudo apt-get intall wmspaceweather
[10:18] <distanceisdeath> oh thanks
[10:18] <XVampireX> tommy18crowe: You need sudo to be able to install anything
[10:18] <tmccrary> stupid douche
[10:18] <tommy18crowe> even if I'm in root?
[10:18] <tommy18crowe> root terminal?
[10:19] <GlassCasket> HOw come Ubuntu didn't ask em any questions regarding Grub?
[10:19] <scifi> tmccrary: have u tried k9copy ?
[10:19] <SanketMedhi> tommy18crowe: that might be because the us.archive.ubuntu.com site is down currently
[10:19] <tommy18crowe> oh
[10:19] <tommy18crowe> I sure do hope so
[10:19] <rdemanow> still having issues with my wireless
[10:19] <SanketMedhi> try in some time
[10:19] <tmccrary> scifi: yes, a while ago, it didn't seem to even detect my drive for some reasonb
[10:19] <Jowi> GlassCasket: when? when using the alt-cd it does. no idea about the live one....
[10:19] <tommy18crowe> can someone check it out for me and see if it works for you guys
[10:19] <rdemanow> iwconfig will attach to the router OK, but dhclient won't get me a DHCP addy
[10:20] <scifi> tmccrary:  perhaps try the latest version included in dappers repos, just started using it, seems great
[10:20] <GlassCasket> Jowi: Thanks, I guess I'll download the alternate CD.
[10:20] <tmccrary> scifi: thanks for the tip, I realize now that libdvdcss is just a device abstraction for the CSS stuff. It is definately a program like k9copy or whatever that would skip bad areas. Thanks again!
[10:21] <scifi> tmccrary:  netime :)
[10:21] <Hisham> why doesnt "make" work for me
[10:21] <skavenge> on the livecd it doesnt ask it just installs to mbr by default with a default install .. cant add partitions or anything to grub at boot or anything afaik
[10:21] <Hisham> gives me an error
[10:21] <therabbit> helo a newbie here
[10:21] <modulus> so, if one's CD drive doesn't get detected, is one fully screwed?
[10:21] <Hisham> and what does that mean
[10:22] <Hisham> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:22] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: be clear
[10:22] <skavenge> ?
[10:22] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: what seems to be the prob?
[10:22] <farous> Hisham: why not search for the package you want in the repos
[10:22] <farous> Hisham: and you need some dev pakcages to compile packages
[10:22] <tommy18crowe> EVEYTIME I INSTALL ANY LINUX IT TRIPS MY BIOS....
[10:22] <Hisham> which packages
[10:23] <tommy18crowe> oops
[10:23] <skavenge> SanketMedhi: there is no problem someone asked why grub doesnt ask questions on install on the livecd
[10:23] <tommy18crowe> sorry
[10:23] <nn> tommy18crowe: what?
[10:23] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: oh ok :P
[10:23] <tommy18crowe> I think I have to use 64-bit edition to get it to work
[10:23] <tommy18crowe> yeah
[10:23] <farous> Hisham: depending on the dependenices of the program you are trying to compile
[10:23] <tommy18crowe> I tirps my bios and my computer won't start up
[10:23] <Hisham> ok, what does that mean
[10:23] <scifi> billybennett: u still ere m8 ?
[10:23] <farous> Hisham: easier to search for the package and install from the repos
[10:23] <Hisham> I mean i download stuff, and i need to install them
[10:23] <therabbit> I'm looking for instruction on how to comand line interface in terminal
[10:23] <GlassCasket> skavenge: Because I tried booting my three drives ans got error 15 and 17 :\
[10:23] <Hisham> and they are not in the repos
[10:23] <farous> !cli
[10:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:24] <Jowi> tommy18crowe: define "trips"
[10:24] <billybennett> scifi, yes
[10:24] <tommy18crowe> um
[10:24] <farous> Hisham: what package you are trying to install
[10:24] <tommy18crowe> my mobo doens't work until you pull out the battery
[10:24] <scifi> billybennett: authoring got to 46%, then restarted at 0 % !! :'(
[10:24] <theine> Hi, although the vga16fb is listed in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it is always loaded while booting the system. Does anybody know how to prevent this module from being loaded?
[10:24] <Hisham> kmess
[10:24] <Hisham> but i mean in general
[10:24] <therabbit> thanks
[10:25] <billybennett> scifi, try a different dvd
[10:25] <rdemanow> the following command gets my wireless card attached to the router:
[10:25] <tommy18crowe> what packages do I need to download in synaptic to get xfce?
[10:25] <rdemanow>  sudo iwconfig ath0 channel 6 mode Managed essid linksys key restricted 1234-567
[10:25] <rdemanow> 8-9abc-def1-2345-6789-ab
[10:25] <farous> Hisham: kmess is in the universe repos
[10:25] <rdemanow> with the result in iwconfig being:
[10:25] <Jowi> tommy18crowe: woaw. that does not make sence. i386 should install fine even on a 64bit system (asiak). no ubuntu version should even be able to alter the cmos settings.
[10:25] <rdemanow> ath0      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"linksys"
[10:25] <rdemanow>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.452 GHz  Access Point: 00:0F:66:22:71:01
[10:25] <farous> !easysource Hisham
[10:25] <rdemanow>           Bit Rate:1 Mb/s   Tx-Power:18 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3
[10:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysource Hisham - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:25] <rdemanow>           Retry:off   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[10:25] <Jowi> s/sence/sense
[10:25] <rdemanow>           Power Management:off
[10:25] <void^> rdemanow: pastebin
[10:25] <rdemanow>           Link Quality=0/94  Signal level=-95 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
[10:25] <farous> !easysource > Hisham
[10:25] <rdemanow>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[10:25] <SanketMedhi> is anyone here using multiple desktop environments on Ubuntu?
[10:25] <Enverex> Use pastebin rdemanow !
[10:26] <stefg> !paste
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:26] <farous> Hisham: look at ubotu link
[10:26] <rdemanow> so why won't dhclient get me an addy?
[10:26] <Jowi> rdemanow: pastebin. don't flood the channel please. there are close to 800 people in here
[10:26] <tommy18crowe> Jowi: it not just Ubuntu it all *nix that isn't 64-bit
[10:26] <stiv2k> what driver do atheros-based cars use????? is it wlan-ng ?
[10:26] <stefg> !wifi > stiv2k
[10:26] <Jowi> tommy18crowe: maybe you should see if there is a bios upgrade for your mobo. that is one serious bug
[10:27] <stiv2k> stefg: thanks
[10:27] <tommy18crowe> Jowi: I did that
[10:27] <scifi> billybennett: after searching on the net it has "ARccOS" protection which is not easy to get around
[10:27] <rdemanow> dunno what it is in Linux.  In FreeBSD it's if_ath(4)
[10:27] <farous> Hisham: and you can use kopte for msn instant message
[10:28] <Jowi> tommy18crowe: what modo do you have?
[10:28] <Hisham> kopote sucks
[10:28] <SanketMedhi> lol
[10:28] <farous> Hisham: ok enable the universe reops
[10:28] <SanketMedhi> Kopete*
[10:28] <tommy18crowe> VIAK8M800
[10:28] <Guhru> 2] [
[10:29] <Hisham> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kmess/kmess_1.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:29] <stiv2k> stefg: it looks like it's madwifi...does the 6.06 liveCD have it already?  for some reason it seems like my card is *weaker* in linux than windows
[10:29] <stiv2k> stefg: in the sense that i cannot connec to my AP because i'm on the patio and its farther away...and i can't pick up as many other APs as i can in windows
[10:29] <tmccrary> faous
[10:29] <bender_> i have found a bug in the /etc/init.d/ppp script
[10:29] <rdemanow> from what I can see in iwconfig, dhclient *should* be getting me an addy ... works fine in wankers and FreeBSD, but for some reason it won't work in ubuntu :(
[10:29] <tmccrary> farous
[10:29] <farous> Hisham: for kde questions better ask in kubuntu room
[10:30] <Hisham> but i use ubuntu
[10:30] <stefg> stiv2k: don't ask me... i prefer copper over air..
[10:30] <farous> Hisham: so why not use gaim
[10:30] <bender_> were can i submit a bug report and the fix for that ?
[10:30] <stiv2k> stefg: hah ok
[10:30] <skavenge> bender_: launchpad.net
[10:30] <tommy18crowe> can anyone see if the apt-get server is down?
[10:30] <rdemanow> stefg, I don't think my landlord would appreciate me drilling holes in his walls to run copper from down the road ...
[10:30] <skavenge> tommy18crowe: it is
[10:30] <SanketMedhi> Tommyyes it is
[10:30] <tmccrary> stiv2k: You may be able to changes card specific settings and boost power
[10:30] <tommy18crowe> ok
[10:31] <SanketMedhi> tommy18crowe:
[10:31] <SanketMedhi> yes
[10:31] <Hisham> crashes
[10:31] <tommy18crowe> SanketMedhi: yes?
[10:31] <tommy18crowe> ok
[10:31] <farous> Hisham: that is not usual. it never crashed here
[10:31] <stiv2k> tmccrary: how can i do that?
[10:32] <tommy18crowe> now i gotta go reinstall ubuntu with the 64-bit version
[10:32] <tommy18crowe> argh
[10:32] <Hisham> i open it, it auto signs in, then disapears
[10:32] <tommy18crowe> :(
[10:32] <Jowi> tommy18crowe: maybe there is a jumper setting that is wrong or you've got yourself a faulty mobo. google returns nil
[10:32] <tommy18crowe> then dubug it
[10:32] <farous> it should be in your icontray
[10:32] <tommy18crowe> Jowi: I know what it is
[10:32] <tmccrary> stiv2k: using iwpriv
[10:32] <tommy18crowe> Jowi: its my 6600GT
[10:32] <tommy18crowe> :P
[10:32] <Jowi> tommy18crowe: what is 6600GT?
[10:33] <farous> Hisham: did you play with your panels. right click on it and add notification area
[10:33] <tommy18crowe> $175 GPU
[10:33] <stiv2k> tmccrary: oh...is it very straight-forward...i've never used it before...also does it come with the liveCD? it's all i have right now and w/o internet i can't download it
[10:33] <tommy18crowe> !nvidia
[10:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:34] <Hisham> Wow, farous
[10:34] <Hisham> i owe you man
[10:34] <Hisham> :)
[10:34] <tmccrary> stiv2k: It should come as part of the iw package that hp made
[10:34] <Jowi> tommy18crowe: still shouldn't be able to alter cmos. haven't seen that sort of behaviour sine my 486-dx100. a looong time ago
[10:34] <Hisham> thanks a lot
[10:34] <tmccrary> stiv2k: run iwpriv from a terminal to see what ioctls are available
[10:34] <esc_ape> so, what is the difference between the install .iso and the alternate .iso? which one uses espresso?
[10:34] <farous> :)
[10:34] <stiv2k> tmccrary: good, and would you happen to know if madwifi comes in the liveCD aswell
[10:34] <SanketMedhi> esc_ape: that is a mystery
[10:35] <SanketMedhi> :)
[10:35] <billybennett> does the server install have any GUI
[10:35] <SonicvanaJr> Is anyone else having troubles connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:35] <tmccrary> if you have an atheros card and it works on the live cd, changes are you have madwifi. You could do: lsmod | grep madwifi and see if it's loaded in the kernel
[10:35] <stefg> esc_ape: install uses espresso, it's a Live CD... alternate is good and proven text-mode installer
[10:35] <esc_ape> mystery?
[10:35] <stiv2k> tmccrary: correct i do have an atheros card
[10:35] <esc_ape> stefg - thanks. I was looking for the text mode installer
[10:35] <SanketMedhi> stefg: thanks :)
[10:35] <skavenge> does epiphany have media\video support?
[10:36] <Panth3r> i cant use the live CD, I cant get my iBook to display the colors properly
[10:36] <stiv2k> tmccrary: ok, im gonna reboot and mess around with iwpriv...are there any settings that i should set to boost the power?
[10:36] <Monky05> hi everybody....
[10:36] <SanketMedhi> !ibook
[10:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about ibook - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:36] <Monky05> does anyone knows if macos has the capability to read ext3 filesystem?
[10:37] <Panth3r> i dont think so
[10:37] <Panth3r> i couldnt with my G4 imac
[10:37] <Jowi> Monky05: http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[10:38] <Monky05> ok.. i'll check... thanks Panth3r and Jowi
[10:38] <Panth3r> NP
[10:38] <maxkelley> hey, I'm having problems with cups.. I'm printing over SMB and here's a snippet of my error_log
[10:39] <Commander|afk> ok
[10:39] <Commander|afk> It works great in 64-bit mode
[10:39] <Commander|afk> so yeah
[10:39] <Commander|afk> 4 things
[10:39] <Jowi> Monky05: could be this, but i can't be sure since I have never owned a mac: http://home.mindspring.com/~swezen/mklinux/MountX_1.0a1.sit
[10:40] <Commander|afk> My mobo doesn't like my GPU, my GPU doesn't like my Linux, cuz linux doesn't work all to well with opengl
[10:40] <maxkelley> error log : http://rafb.net/paste/results/2BOBth79.html
[10:40] <tmccrary> k9copy = crap
[10:40] <maxkelley> can anyone help?
[10:40] <Commander|afk> so all I gotta do is get a new mobo
[10:40] <shorty114> Commander|afk, sounds fun
[10:40] <Commander|afk> shorty114: it sure does
[10:41] <Monky05> thanks Jowi
[10:41] <james__> hi guys
[10:42] <Panth3r> um
[10:42] <Panth3r> i cant use the live CD, I cant get my iBook to display the colors properly, even with the command video=ofonly
[10:42] <Commander|afk> I think I'll upgrade it to a AM2 proc
[10:42] <Commander|afk> lol
[10:42] <Commander|afk> somone tell me when apt-get is back online ok
[10:43] <Commander|afk> I'm outta here
[10:44] <maxkelley> nope, I lied... here's my cups error logs... nothing will print: http://rafb.net/paste/results/faDLGq94.html
[10:45] <blampe1> i am having a hard time playing wmvs in totem, does anyone know what would cause the video to distort
[10:46] <glatzee> Hi! I'm having a big problem. I can't seem to login anymore. X starts fine, but when I get try to login in from gdm/kdm they just restar and bring me back to the login. Anyone know how to fix this?
[10:46] <SanketMedhi> !video
[10:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about video - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:46] <SanketMedhi> !wmv
[10:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:46] <Jowi> blampe1: try resizing the window to see if that helps
[10:46] <SanketMedhi> !wmv > blampe1
[10:46] <Panth3r> !PowerPC
[10:46] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[10:47] <Enverex> Ironic that it's fully supported now that it's, as the kernel would say "DEPRECIATED" :P
[10:47] <blampe1> i will give that a try
[10:47] <blampe1> thanks
[10:47] <SanketMedhi> blampe1: wmv 9 won't work
[10:47] <blampe1> well that could be it then
[10:48] <idefix_> what's in changelog.Debian.gz files?
[10:48] <blampe1> but it does work with mplayer
[10:48] <SanketMedhi> blampe1: umm not sure
[10:48] <tNt_CornFlakes> hmm
[10:48] <glatzee> No one knows why I cant login from gdm/kdm?
[10:48] <tNt_CornFlakes> is mark shuttleworth here?
[10:48] <blampe1> i know it works for mplayer i just watched is
[10:48] <SanketMedhi> lol
[10:48] <tNt_CornFlakes> lol
[10:48] <tNt_CornFlakes> :p
[10:48] <SanketMedhi> tNt_CornFlakes: what for?
[10:48] <Jowi> glatzee: what happens?
[10:49] <blampe1> do you know how to change mplayer to the default wmv player for firefox
[10:49] <maxkelley> anyone good with cups?
[10:49] <tNt_CornFlakes> just for interest sake
[10:49] <maxkelley> tNt_CornFlakes: nope :)
[10:49] <tNt_CornFlakes> damn
[10:49] <tNt_CornFlakes> :(
[10:49] <maxkelley> at least, I don't think so..
[10:49] <SanketMedhi> tNt_CornFlakes: I have met him :
[10:49] <glatzee> Jowi: Whenever I enter my user and pass and hit enter, the screen goes black and then gdm/kdm restarts, and lets me login again
[10:49] <SanketMedhi> :)
[10:49] <tNt_CornFlakes> cool
[10:49] <TristanT06> hey people, when I have my tv connected to the s-video out, my crt monitor gets extremly bright and washed out, what's the problem?
[10:50] <Jowi> glatzee: what wm are you using?
[10:50] <glatzee> Jowi: KDE and Xfce
[10:50] <piwi> hi there, I would like to add a menu in Applications using Alacarte. Radio > then links to Radio France radio's that are using ogg streams. The only thing is that I have to fill this Entry Editor box... I put the URL of the stream in commande but Im not quite sure wether I have to add totem and then pass it the URL as an argument or just leave the URL
[10:50] <Jowi> glatzee: in gdm, make sure one of them is selected instead of default or gnome.
[10:50] <fiznut> I just recently installed Ubuntu, but haven't done anythign to the driver that was installed for my 9800 pro. Should I replace it for better performance or is the driver that comes preinstalled the better?
[10:51] <lophyte> anyone here know anything about remastering the Dapper CD?
[10:51] <glatzee> Jowi: Done that. Whatever I choose it just kicks me back to gdm
[10:51] <jdmpike> did anyone in here follow Kilz howto to setup 32 bit wine on 64 bit dapper
[10:51] <jdmpike> I have some problems...
[10:51] <Jowi> glatzee: if you have added kde or xfce to your .xsession file, you must select "default" in gdm. might be .xsession is exec'ing the wrong file.
[10:51] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: I have wine on 64 bit
[10:52] <glatzee> Jowi: Where is the .xsession file?
[10:52] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: all I did was sudo dpkg --force-all wine*.deb
[10:52] <Jowi> glatzee: /home/user/.xsession . if you haven't changed it you should not have to mess with it, so it should be something else that is wrong.
[10:52] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi I followed kilz howto, to do it without a chroot, can't find wine after
[10:53] <Jowi> glatzee: can you log in normally in console?
[10:53] <glatzee> Jowi: The only thing that I know I changed was upgrading kde to latest version. But I should be able to login to xfce even if kde isn't working right?
[10:53] <Jowi> glatzee: right
[10:53] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: don't use chroot, its too tuff and it sux
[10:53] <Commander|afk> is it up yet?
[10:53] <glatzee> Jowi: yes, I can login normally
[10:53] <themolasses> Hi - could anyone help me with some newbie questions?
[10:54] <glatzee> In console mode
[10:54] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, I run wine and get 'file or directory not found', I run winecfg and get /usr/bin/winecfg: line 29: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[10:54] <jdmpike> /usr/bin/winecfg: line 29: /usr/bin/wine: Success
[10:54] <SanketMedhi> is this .thumbnails directory important?
[10:54] <ardchoille> no
[10:54] <ardchoille> it's thumbnail cache
[10:54] <ardchoille> I delete it upon login
[10:54] <themolasses> I'm trying to install dapper to an external usb hard drive
[10:54] <Commander|afk> apt-get isn't up yet is it?
[10:54] <SanketMedhi> ardchoille: thanks taking too much space
[10:54] <ardchoille> SanketMedhi: Yes, you're right.
[10:55] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: just download the debs for x32 and force installation using dpkg
[10:55] <Jowi> glatzee: you can try to delete your xfce and kde directories in your home dir to see if that does it.
[10:55] <emil> Hi Guys
[10:55] <themolasses> but I'm not sure how to make the external drive bootable
[10:55] <emil> Yesterday someone told me how to solve a sound problem on Flash, it worked, but now i restarted m PC, and it doesn't work anymore
[10:55] <glatzee> Jowi: Okey, brb
[10:55] <Jowi> glatzee: /home/user/.xfce and /home/user/.kde
[10:55] <Panth3r> OMFG
[10:55] <ardchoille> Jowi: The kde devs say to *never* delete ~/.kde
[10:56] <glatzee> Jowi: Same thing
[10:56] <Jowi> ardchoille: i don't mind what they say. it solved it for me a few months back :) (maybe I was just lucky)
[10:56] <glatzee> Jowi: I still get nothing. Could it be something with X?
[10:57] <ardchoille> SanketMedhi: Can I pm you ?
[10:57] <fiznut> Is the default driver for ATI cards fine, or can I get better performance by replacing it with something else?
[10:57] <Jowi> glatzee: if kdm/gdm starts your Xorg should be fine
[10:57] <SanketMedhi> ardchoille: ok
[10:57] <Jowi> glatzee: if you create a new user, can that user log in?
[10:58] <glatzee> Jowi: I'll try, brb
[10:59] <glatzee> Jowi: Nope.
[10:59] <glatzee> Jowi: No luck there either
[10:59] <emil> Yesterday someone told me how to solve a sound problem on Flash, it worked, but now i restarted m PC, and it doesn't work anymore
[10:59] <Jowi> glatzee: then we can rule out that a user config file is wrong at least. how did you upgrade kde?
[11:00] <glatzee> Jowi: With jriddells rep, dist-upgrade
[11:00] <codecaine> when I click on a link on here or on gaim this link comes up all the time http://www.arizona.edu/styleguide/seal.php
[11:00] <codecaine> whys that?
[11:00] <Jerr> hey, whats the package name to compile stuff?
[11:00] <Jowi> glatzee: maybe you should try to downgrade to the official ubuntu one.
[11:00] <skavenge> Jerr: build-essential
[11:00] <Jerr> thanks
[11:00] <glatzee> Jowi: How do I do that?
[11:00] <Jowi> glatzee: no idea :)
[11:01] <wachunei> hi there
[11:01] <mazirian> Hi
[11:02] <wachunei> where can i get cedega? bittorrent does not work for me?
[11:02] <wachunei> * ignore that "? "
[11:02] <emil> Yesterday someone told me how to solve a sound problem on Flash, it worked, but now i restarted m PC, and it doesn't work anymore
[11:02] <Ribs> wachunei: www.transgaming.com
[11:02] <wachunei> install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:02] <Ribs> wachunei: Cedega is not free software, you have to pay for it
[11:02] <mazirian> there is cvs access however
[11:02] <wachunei> i need a free one
[11:02] <Emilia-> hey can i make command that runs under some spesific terminal?
[11:02] <Jowi> glatzee: I would apt-get remove the kde i just installed. remove the jriddell repo, apt-get update and apt-get install the kubuntu-desktop package
[11:03] <Emilia-> can i make some script that run some command in some console
[11:03] <Emilia-> that it opens console
[11:03] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, what am I doing wrong?
[11:03] <Emilia-> and runs the command
[11:03] <Emilia-> in that console
[11:03] <wachunei> ?
[11:03] <Emilia-> like gnome-terminal   ls
[11:03] <Emilia-> so it makes the ls command in gnome-terminal
[11:03] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, I downloaded that deb, wine_0.9.17~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[11:03] <Emilia-> i wanna make script like that
[11:04] <Emilia-> ls > gnome-terminal
[11:04] <Emilia-> like that?
[11:04] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, I ran sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i wine*
[11:04] <codecaine> where is the $PATH varible at on ubuntu?
[11:04] <codecaine> where is the varible loaded at
[11:04] <idefix_> do you guys turn your PC's of at night to save electricity or are you afraid your PC will become slower when shutting down and starting up often?
[11:04] <Jowi> glatzee: maybe someone else in here is using that repo...?
[11:04] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, then I try to run winecfg, nothing...
[11:04] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, I try to run wine, I get file/directory not found
[11:05] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: what did you do?
[11:05] <cpk2> idefix_: i enjoy my uptime and as such only reboot when i _have_ to =P
[11:05] <idefix_> cpk2 so you leave your PC on at night then
[11:05] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, I don't know
[11:05] <tsume> Jowi: 54F here in Homer, Alaska
[11:05] <Dasnipa`> idefix_, computer's power consumption is minimal at best
[11:05] <Lobster> save enegy and money is not goot for a growing enconomy
[11:05] <glatzee> Jowi: Its the official one, so It seems weird that it just crashed my system
[11:06] <bbrazil> idefix_: truning on and off electronics damages them slightly - especially with hard drives
[11:06] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: what do you mean you don't know
[11:06] <Dasnipa`> similar consumption to running a single lightbulb all day
[11:06] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: did you install the wine debs?
[11:06] <wachunei> i've tried to run counter strike in wine but it crashes and mada all my desktop crash...
[11:06] <wachunei> *made
[11:06] <rupert> hey, ive modprobed ndiswrapper, i have all the drivers, ndiswrapper tells me its cool, but wlan0 is nowhere to be found, any ideas what i coulda done wrong?
[11:06] <Jowi> tsume: oh how I envy you. 96.8F according to google here.
[11:06] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, I downloaded the deb, installed with dpkg --force-architecture -i <package name>
[11:06] <tsume> Jowi: where are you at?
[11:06] <emil> Yesterday someone told me how to solve a sound problem on Flash, it worked, but now i restarted m PC, and it doesn't work anymore
[11:07] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, tried to run wine, and I get a file not found... I do an ls -lrt on /usr/bin/ and wine is there
[11:07] <Jowi> glatzee: the official ubuntu one I meant.
[11:07] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: you have to install two DEBs, one is wine and the other winelibs
[11:07] <emil> Yesterday someone told me how to solve a sound problem on Flash, it worked, but now i restarted m PC, and it doesn't work anymore
[11:07] <shari> Can someone tell me how to partition a Dell Inspiron for a dual Unbuntu linux boot?  I'm using Windows NT.
[11:07] <emil> Jowi?
[11:08] <dli> shari, boot ubuntu livecd, start gparted
[11:08] <Jowi> tsume: Paris, France. Bloody awful. each summer is the same. My third year and I will never get used to it
[11:08] <emil> Jowi: Weren't you that guy who helped me with the flash sound thing?
[11:08] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, what are the winelibs?
[11:08] <cpk2> shari: the live cd should ask if you want to resize your existing space to use for linux?
[11:08] <Dasnipa`> "unbuntu" lol i like it
[11:08] <shari> yes
[11:08] <tsume> Jowi: france, almost 100F, you're kidding?
[11:08] <shari> it does
[11:08] <Jowi> emil: perhaps. :)
[11:08] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: they are the wine libraries
[11:08] <kmag> so... I just had a power flicker during at apt-get dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper...
[11:08] <tsume> Jowi: I never imagined France as a hot country
[11:08] <emil> Jowi: Can you help me again?
[11:09] <Jowi> tsume: must be the smog that raises the temperature.
[11:09] <satempler> my madwifi card stoped working after a update
[11:09] <kmag> and my login is no longer graphical
[11:09] <Jowi> emil: what's your prob?
[11:09] <emil> There was some command, in terminal to activate sound on flash, then i restarted X and it worked..
[11:09] <satempler> not sure what happened
[11:09] <Jowi> tsume: me neither before i moved here
[11:09] <emil> But i restarted my Ubuntu, now it doesn't work anymore
[11:09] <cpk2> shari: you dont want to do that?
[11:09] <emil> You know, the Youtube sound thing
[11:09] <satempler> is there any way to get it back
[11:09] <shari> I am not certain how to configure the partitions
[11:09] <Jowi> emil: ummmm, i think you just symlinked the library... it is explained here
[11:09] <Jowi> !flash
[11:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:09] <kmag> how do I enable the graphical login?
[11:10] <Jowi> emil: it is on the restrictedformats page
[11:10] <emil> Ok
[11:10] <shari> i did it once and killed windows
[11:10] <tsume> emil: I recommend turning logging on your irc client. its helpful
[11:10] <dli> shari, resize the ntfs partition, then, use the free space after resizing to install ubuntu
[11:10] <satempler> is the linux-restricted-modules suposed to be updated with the main kernel
[11:10] <RRubin> kmag, if its not enabled, and you didnt disable it, its likely that its failed to start. you could try startingthe 'gdb' service (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start) but i doubt it will work now if it didnt at boot
[11:10] <Jowi> emil: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1 (that should be a permanent solution though. not sure why you still have that problem)
[11:11] <shari> let me see what my options are, hang on
[11:11] <analiser> anyone:i cant put in monitor mode mi orinoco gold card on ubuntu 6.06..
[11:11] <satempler> is the linux-restricted-modules suposed to be updated with the main kernel
[11:12] <[Wiebel] > Hi
[11:12] <[Wiebel] > anyone got networkmanager with vpn support working?
[11:12] <kmag> RRubin: I don't have x-common installed
[11:12] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, where do you get the 32bit libraries?
[11:12] <RRubin> kmag: huh. apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <kmag> RRubin: is that supposed to happen?
[11:12] <idefix_> Dasnipa` but eight hours of sleep times 50/1000 times 50 cents per kWh is more the money for a new PC/the number of nights of decreased computer length caused by leaving the PC on at night!!
[11:12] <tsume> *sigh*
[11:12] <RRubin> kmap, though it looks like the us archive is down right now, so that might fail
[11:12] <kmag> RRubin: and why is apt-get asking me to insert the breezy CD?
[11:13] <piwi> I opened a .torrent file with Text Editor by doing "open with..." and now default handler for .torrent is text editor, not bittorrent anymore.... how to put bittorrent as the default handler?
[11:13] <kmag> RRubin: I just upgraded to Dapper
[11:13] <tsume> I want a prog which starts with with GNOME, has VPN, Wireless selection, and config support
[11:13] <tsume> everyone's progs just bite :(
[11:13] <RRubin> kmag, um. edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the CD from the top (just put a # in front to comment it out)
[11:13] <rupert> anyone wanna help me with ndiswrapper? i cant get it to make wlan0 show up
[11:13] <tsume> and ndis wrapper dconfig :)
[11:14] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[11:14] <dli> rupert, can you find a native driver?
[11:14] <RRubin> anyone have news on whats up with the us mirror and an ETA?
[11:14] <rupert> no, ive never got one to work natively
[11:14] <rupert> i have the bcm4318 and ndiswrapper is really supposed to be the best option
[11:14] <XVampireX> Hi, I have a somewhat big problem... I installed amarok on ubuntu (Gnome) a while ago , and now for some reason I have kde services running in the background, sometimes taking over the whole system (As if I was running KDE...)
[11:14] <rupert> as far as i know
[11:15] <piwi> How to be able to see thumbnails for JPEG files when browsing in a soft (eg when changing display picture with kopete)?
[11:15] <kmag> hmm... 733 megabytes of stuff to install for ubuntu-destop :-(
[11:15] <dli> rupert, bcm43xx is in stable kernel 2.6.17
[11:15] <kmag> anyway, thanks everyone
[11:15] <tsume> XVampireX: oh, hey ther e:)
[11:15] <XVampireX> hi
[11:15] <Dasnipa`> idefix_, is doesnt end up being much money per year...
[11:15] <Dasnipa`> it*
[11:15] <rupert> no bcm43xx never worked for me
[11:15] <RRubin> rupert: i have a bcm4306, and it works natively in ubuntu 6.06 now. the linux kernel _just_ got support for broadcom cards.
[11:15] <tsume> XVampireX: are you running any Kde apps?
[11:15] <XVampireX> Well, no
[11:15] <Jowi> XVampireX: amarok uses qt so that is normal
[11:15] <XVampireX> I only have amarok installed
[11:15] <husky> http://en.fon.com/
[11:15] <idefix_> Dasnipa` http://www.microsoft.com/smallbusiness/resources/technology/hardware/do_you_need_to_turn_off_your_pc_at_night.mspx says it doesn't matter
[11:15] <rupert> yeah but thats a different model. the bcm4318 does not work natively period
[11:15] <XVampireX> that's related to KDE
[11:16] <RRubin> rupert: bummer :( i havnt tried ndiswrapper in 6.06 since it worked out of the box, sorry
[11:16] <tsume> XVampireX: are you starting amarok? the kdeinit procs will all start
[11:16] <piwi> I opened a .torrent file with Text Editor by doing "open with..." and now default handler for .torrent is text editor, not bittorrent anymore.... how to put bittorrent as the default handler?
[11:16] <Jowi> XVampireX: if I use totem in KDE i will see some gtk backends running
[11:16] <piwi> How to be able to see thumbnails for JPEG files when browsing in a soft (eg when changing display picture with kopete)?
[11:16] <emil> Jowi: I installed aoss and changed something on a line from a file, now it works, thanks
[11:16] <tsume> XVampireX: kdeinit saves memory :)
[11:16] <XVampireX> tsume, no, I don't have amarok running
[11:16] <RRubin> piwi: in firefox?
[11:16] <Jowi> emil: your welcome
[11:16] <jdmpike> SanketMedhi, mine looks for a 64 bit version of the packages, they don't work
[11:16] <tsume> XVampireX: they will still be running when you close amarok
[11:17] <XVampireX> and I'm talking about ALOT of KDE processes
[11:17] <tsume> XVampireX: how much is alot?
[11:17] <piwi> RRubin: both in firefox and in the explorer or whatever its called
[11:17] <XVampireX> some 10
[11:17] <tsume> XVampireX: sounds about right
[11:17] <shari> cpk2:  For partitioning for Ubuntu should I use largest continuous free space or manually edit the partition table?
[11:17] <Jowi> XVampireX: amarok is bound with both video and sound and graphical interface.
[11:18] <shari> I'm in the partitioner now
[11:18] <ironfroggy> is there some way to tell the kernel to use as little swap as possible? im trying to minimize disc access.
[11:18] <tsume> XVampireX: it would not only start kde, but probably artsd as well
[11:18] <tsume> XVampireX: so in reality. you might as well run KDE :)
[11:18] <dli> ironfroggy, disable swap :)
[11:18] <XVampireX> Yeah, but check it out... I'm trying to install mpd and this is what it gives me: serge@serge-desktop:~$ mpd
[11:18] <XVampireX> Creating link /home/serge/.kde/socket-serge-desktop.
[11:18] <XVampireX> can't create mcop directory
[11:18] <RRubin> piwi: right click on the file, select properties. choose the open with tab
[11:18] <chx> anyone has some idea where to find the package called 'orinoco' http://icfpc.plt-scheme.org/INSTALLED shows that there is one
[11:18] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: sorry wrong link, one min
[11:18] <Bensr20> Can someone help me with mplayer? I changed the video codec family and now i get an error message that says "error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device." it will not allow me to change it back to none. Anyone know how I can reset it?
[11:18] <ironfroggy> dli: hmm.. i need swap!
[11:18] <analiser> anyone:i cant put in monitor mode mi orinoco gold card on ubuntu 6.06..
[11:19] <husky> http://en.fon.com/
[11:19] <dli> ironfroggy, if you want to minimize disk ops :) I do not use swap on my laptop
[11:19] <piwi> RRubin: will do, cheers!
[11:19] <chx> analiser: we are in the same boots
[11:19] <Dewbie> Bensr20, reinstall
[11:19] <chx> analiser: look at the link I pasted above. we need that package.
[11:19] <analiser> chx lol
[11:19] <Jowi> Bensr20: "mplayer -vo help" will give you a list of videosinks. use "mplayer -vo xv filename.avi" for example
[11:19] <Dewbie> should go back to default
[11:20] <RRubin> Bensr20: most settings are in /home/youruser/.something, so you could try deleting eg /home/youruser/.mplayer
[11:20] <ironfroggy> dli: anyway to dynamically enable it only when im plugged in?
[11:20] <Bensr20> Dewbie i removed it in the add/remove programs but that option stayed the same after the reinstall
[11:20] <Jowi> Bensr20: "none" should not be a valid option anyway :)
[11:20] <XVampireX> tsume
[11:20] <XVampireX> any idea?
[11:20] <dli> ironfroggy, swapon /dev/blah
[11:20] <analiser> hey chx let me see
[11:20] <Bensr20> jowi that is where it was when i first installed it and it worked fine then
[11:21] <piwi> !metacity
[11:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about metacity - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:21] <piwi> !xorg
[11:21] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:21] <RRubin> Bensr20: also, you could try apt-get remove packagename --purge (removes all cfg files, too)
[11:21] <raf> hi folks
[11:21] <Jowi> Bensr20: sudo apt-get remove --purge should remove the config files
[11:21] <ironfroggy> dli: yeah i know that command but it doesnt know if im plugged in or not..
[11:21] <Bensr20> thanks everyone
[11:21] <analiser> chx  but what u need??'
[11:22] <tsume> XVampireX: hmm
[11:22] <Broadcast_> Hey
[11:22] <Broadcast_> Gaim is not working again
[11:22] <shari> does anyone know how to partition the Dell Inspiron for Ubuntu?  I'm in the installer now.  My options are to either use largest continuous free space, or Manually edit partition table.
[11:22] <Broadcast_> :(
[11:22] <RRubin> ironfroggy: theres some scripts in /etc/acpi which run when things happen like plugging in
[11:22] <zukalk> rupert: what's your wifi card?
[11:22] <ardchoille> Next to my right CTRL key, I have a key with a menu and arrow on it. How do I disable that key? I accidentally hit it when I press the right SHIFT key. Can I map that key as a SHIFT key?
[11:22] <raf> is anyone having a problem with yahoo
[11:22] <raf> right now?
[11:22] <SanketMedhi> Broadcast_: prob?
[11:22] <analiser> chx are u here
[11:22] <zukalk> rupert: and what driver are you using when you do ndiswrapper -l ?
[11:22] <Jowi> shari: do you have windows on that machine?
[11:22] <SanketMedhi> Broadcast_: if its yahoo, its not working here too :s
[11:22] <chx> analiser: yes
[11:23] <shari> yes XP
[11:23] <chx> analiser: I need the orinoco package
[11:23] <RRubin> ardchoille: xmodmap somehow, but you'll have to reasearch exactly what to do with it.
[11:23] <Broadcast_> crashes
[11:23] <Broadcast_> :(
[11:23] <Jowi> shari: do you have any free space on the HDD?
[11:23] <analiser> ok .. but what the soucers
[11:23] <shari> sorry, XP
[11:23] <analiser> sources
[11:23] <shari> yes, 10G
[11:23] <Broadcast_> I dont mean yahoo, Gaim
[11:23] <ardchoille> RRubin: Thanks, that points me in the right direction. I appreciate it :)
[11:23] <analiser> chx look in googe man
[11:23] <Jowi> shari: 10G empty space or 10G space on a partition that you don't use?
[11:23] <analiser> chx google
[11:24] <anirban> Hi I am having problem to install Draper on my RS480 Motherboard with a 80 GB SATA hdd
[11:24] <shari> empty, I believe.  not sure about how it's partitioned
[11:24] <Broadcast_> Gaim is now wokring
[11:24] <anirban> the SATA hdd is not geting recognized
[11:24] <Broadcast_> i knew it used to crash cause of the notif area
[11:24] <Broadcast_> but i tried
[11:24] <chx> analiser: i looked in google until it turned blue
[11:24] <Broadcast_> but doent work
[11:24] <shari> i can look in the manual partition and try to tell you
[11:24] <anirban> gaim is not working for me
[11:24] <analiser> jejeje
[11:24] <anirban> it is not loggin to yahoo
[11:24] <gatekeeper> raf yahoo works for me :-)
[11:25] <Broadcast_> no, mine isnt opening
[11:25] <geek> can some one do me a small favor and try pinging an ip I just need to see if it'll reply { 206.223.228.156 }
[11:25] <analiser> chx well run apt-chache search orinoco
[11:25] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557&highlight=wine+amd64+install
[11:25] <Jowi> shari: yes, you should double check. if it is truly an empty unpartitioned space you can chose that option. otherwise you should manually edit it.
[11:25] <analiser> apt-cache search orinoco
[11:25] <SanketMedhi> jdmpike: UbuntuForums.org is your friend, use him! :P
[11:25] <rupert> bcmwl5.inf
[11:25] <rupert> zukalk: the card is bcm4318
[11:25] <chx> analiser: i ran tht
[11:25] <rupert> zukalk: my internet farted, did you say something?
[11:25] <Broadcast_> ?\
[11:25] <zukalk> rupert: that's all i said
[11:26] <zukalk> rupert: are you using Dapper?
[11:26] <johnm1019> are there any good pages that summarize all the new parts/goals of edgy eft?
[11:26] <billybennett> does the server install have a GUI at all?
[11:26] <SanketMedhi> billybennett: I don't think so
[11:26] <shari> OK #1 primary 41.1MB K fat 16;  #2 primary 36.9GB B K ntfs;  #3primary 2.8G K fat32;   logical 253.3MB FREE SPACE  #5 logical 8.2MB  ext3
[11:26] <Jowi> billybennett: only ncurses (text)
[11:27] <rupert> zukalk: yes
[11:27] <johnm1019> billybennett: you can always sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:27] <khoda> Hey guys. When I try to install it gets stuck on "Configuring Apt" at exactly 40%. I tried a number of different CDs, and this happens. What's going on? (first time user)
[11:27] <billybennett> How can I get LAMP installed with a GUI?
[11:27] <chx> analiser: what more? download 300M of Yes linux just to find that one driver? (because it's in)
[11:27] <raj> hi guys
[11:27] <Jowi> !lamp
[11:27] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:27] <johnm1019> khoda: right now us.archive.ubuntu.com is having DNS issues
[11:27] <lens> hey could you tell me the bash command for a "makedir"
[11:27] <raj> can i join plz?
[11:27] <Jowi> lens: mkdir
[11:27] <raj> lens it is mkdir
[11:27] <johnm1019> khoda: and that is one of the apt servers it tries to ping as its installing
[11:27] <lens> thanks.
[11:27] <lens> :)
[11:27] <c0de> Could someone tell me how to install gcc on Ubuntu ? I did a apt-get install gcc but that isn't right..
[11:27] <Jowi> !commands
[11:27] <Dasnipa`> raj can you join what?
[11:27] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:27] <khoda> johnm1019: will it continue?
[11:27] <cpk2> khoda: lamp is pretty simple to do if you follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:28] <khoda> johnm1019: if i keep waiting
[11:28] <XVampireX> tsume: So I guess you have no idea
[11:28] <raj> dasni chat :)
[11:28] <billybennett> Jowi,   I've read that but when I try to install  libapache2-mod-php5 it says...unmet dependancys
[11:28] <dli> c0de, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:28] <Dasnipa`> raj,  of course
[11:28] <johnm1019> khoda: i hope not ---
[11:28] <c0de> dli: What exactly does that do ?
[11:28] <raj> ty dasni
[11:28] <cpk2> khoda: if you want to use apt-get just delete US in all the entries that have it
[11:28] <johnm1019> khoda: if you wait long enough it should time out
[11:28] <shari> Jowi :  I have   #1 primary 41.1MB K fat 16;  #2 primary 36.9GB B K ntfs;  #3primary 2.8G K fat32;  logical 253.3MB FREE SPACE  #5 logical 8.2MB  ext3
[11:28] <cpk2> khoda: then run apt-get update
[11:28] <khoda> johnm1019: will it continue with the install?
[11:28] <anirban> Hi I am having problem to install Draper on my RS480 Motherboard with a 80 GB SATA hdd and it is not getting recognized
[11:28] <khoda> cpk2: what is that? lamp
[11:28] <raj> can i upgrade Ubuntu OS 5 to 6 via net?
[11:29] <johnm1019> khoda: should
[11:29] <cpk2> khoda: oops the lamp was to billybennett
[11:29] <khoda> cpk2: thought so
[11:29] <khoda> johnm1019: thanks
[11:29] <c0de> dli: I got a error. E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[11:29] <gatekeeper> raj: yes, use update-manager
[11:29] <wachunei> raj: you mean via internet?
[11:29] <zukalk> rupert: i used to use ndiswrapper before Dapper, but it doesn't seem to work anymore. and apparently you have the same kind of wiki card as i do, the Broadcom 43xx. i followed a tutorial similar to this one to get things working: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[11:29] <raj> yes via internet
[11:30] <wachunei> you are going to downnload like 700 MB
[11:30] <Jowi> shari: umm those numbers are confusing.  MB or GB?
[11:30] <cpk2> khoda: if you want to install with ap while the us archive is downt though you will need to delete US from all the entries that have it in sources.list
[11:30] <wachunei> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:30] <shari> MB where stated
[11:30] <gatekeeper> raj: probable a good idea to backup data just in case of disaster
[11:30] <analiser> anyone:i cant put in monitor mode mi orinoco gold card on ubuntu 6.06..
[11:30] <raj> gatekeeper,  will do
[11:30] <raj> ty
[11:30] <khoda> cpk2: is it better to wait, then?
[11:30] <dli> c0de, clean up your sources.list, follow easysource
[11:30] <raj> wachunei,  ty
[11:30] <dli> !easysource > c0de
[11:30] <shari> Jowi it's a 40G machine, most of which are on the ntfs
[11:31] <shari> #2 primary
[11:31] <wachunei> raj: did it work?
[11:31] <gatekeeper> wachunei: update-manager seems to be more relaible, don't know why
[11:31] <raj> that is why i never use ntfs
[11:31] <troy1of2> Hey folks! I'm a newbie here and having some problems with permissions on one of my partitions. Anybody have time to help?
[11:31] <rupert> zukalk, i have the bcm 4318
[11:31] <raj> linux still has some issues with ntfs
[11:31] <c0de> dli: Do I just add the links to the end of source.list ?
[11:31] <wachunei> gatekeeper: it is the same :p
[11:31] <cpk2> khoda: it wont hurt to delete the us out, it will just default to the UK i think, you can edit it alter and put us back in if you want once the us.archive comes back up
[11:31] <raj> troy1of2,  plz ask
[11:31] <rupert> zukalk, its a specifically finicky card: It seems that if you get the following string back: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) that this guide is VERY unlikly to work for you although it does sometimes, dont ask me why, but basically every "no" vote and "this didnt work for me" post comes from a BCM4318 user....
[11:31] <Jowi> shari: 253MB will not be enough. you need a minimum 3.5GB for a normal ubuntu install - I recommend 6GB for the system and 20-40GB for the /home partition. and then a 512MB SWAP.
[11:32] <gatekeeper> wachunei: if only, when I tried the manual method open office didn't get installed, not sure what else I lost
[11:32] <rupert> zukalk, thanks for your help though, im going to restart and see if something i tried worked
[11:32] <akutz> hi
[11:32] <dli> c0de, no, replace the whole file
[11:32] <raj> wachunei,  i'm backing up data
[11:32] <wachunei> raj: okay :)
[11:32] <Jowi> shari: I would recommend you start up XP and move all you can to one partition to free up some space. then delete that empty partition.
[11:32] <akutz> Would this be the right place to ask questions with regard to compiz+Dapper?
[11:32] <wachunei> Who heres has a parition for /home and other for the system??
[11:33] <troy1of2> Okay, before I installed I read a tutorial on setting up a dual boot system for Windows XP and Linux. On it they said to create a partition and make it FAT32 for sharing data so that both OSs could use it. It seemed like a good idea so that's how I set it up.
[11:33] <Jowi> shari: it is much quicker to move files and delete the partition than it is to resize one.
[11:33] <shari> Jowi:  what's the partitioning utility in XP?  I'm a mac user, normally.
[11:33] <cpk2> khoda: you know how to edit your souces.list file?
[11:33] <raj> troy1of2,  kool i use dual boot too
[11:33] <troy1of2> So anyway, I have this 10Gig partition sitting there and when I boot into XP it recognizes it as a FAT 32, allows me to read, write, create folders, etc.. just fine.
[11:33] <Amaranth> crimsun: let me get the error message, hang on
[11:34] <Jowi> shari: I have no idea.... think it is located at admintools (or something similar) in the control panel.
[11:34] <troy1of2> I boot into Ubuntu and I can see the partition there. It shows the amount of space but at first I can't mount it.
[11:34] <c0de> dli: I don't understand what to do with the site you gave me
[11:34] <shari> Jowi, thank you.  I'll look into that.  Thanks
[11:34] <Jowi> shari: last time I used XP was three years ago :P
[11:34] <wachunei> sudo mkdir /media/docs
[11:34] <wachunei> sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/docs -t vfat -o gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8
[11:34] <ringard> what is the adduser syntax to add a current user to a group?
[11:35] <gdb> shari: Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Disk Administrator
[11:35] <dli> c0de, read, then, ask your questions
[11:35] <raj> troy1of2,  r u logged in as root?
[11:35] <analiser> hey chx Grab the drivers at the usual place : http://www.projectiwear.org/~plasmahh/orinoco.html
[11:35] <Amaranth> crimsun: basically vmware says /dev/dsp is busy and lsof says nothing is using it
[11:35] <Broadcast_> Hey, can anyone tell me a good source of hacking software for linux
[11:35] <Broadcast_> ?
[11:35] <ringard> adduser -group groupname username doesn't work
[11:35] <shari> Jowi:  No problem.  I'll try to figure it out.  Thanks for your recommedations; I'll see if I can cobble that together some how
[11:35] <Jowi> shari: gdb is your man :)
[11:35] <DIM> i recive error when i try to boot from cd :( it all starts up fine then after it loads drivers and what not it jumps to a dos window and says the error ima reboot and write it down but from what i seen its says something about i386 try i686
[11:35] <gdb> ringard: Unless the current user is root, you can't add the current user to any groups.
[11:35] <DIM> i run a pentuim d processor
[11:35] <gdb> ringard: You need to be root to add users to groups.
[11:35] <ringard> i sudo first
[11:35] <shari> gdb knows xp?
[11:35] <analiser> Broadcast_, the terminal
[11:36] <Broadcast_> yeah
[11:36] <analiser> hey chx Grab the drivers at the usual place : http://www.projectiwear.org/~plasmahh/orinoco.html
[11:36] <Broadcast_> where can i find tuts
[11:36] <Broadcast_> and stuff
[11:36] <crimsun> Amaranth: what in vmware is attempting to use it?
[11:36] <c0de> dli: I dunno wtf this dapper, breezy stuff is. I just recently got rid of Gentoo and I'm trying Ubuntu..so I'm new to all of this
[11:36] <troy1of2> Now, if I go into System/Adminitration/Disks and go to the Partition tab I can see the partition there, it's recognized as HDA5 but is inaccessible with no mount point. So I hit change, make a folder to use as and access point and I am then able to go in and read it but not write or change anything because I'm not the owner.
[11:36] <jaxB> hello; does anyone know if the apt sources are down?
[11:36] <analiser> Broadcast_, astalavista.box.sk
[11:36] <Amaranth> crimsun: err, i guess the guest OS
[11:36] <c0de> dli: All the stuff in source.list is commented
[11:36] <raj> c0de,  they r just names of new releases
[11:36] <dli> c0de, choose the current stable (dapper)
[11:36] <crimsun> Amaranth: I presume ``lsmod |grep ^snd_pcm_oss'' on the host returns the module?
[11:37] <dli> c0de, read easysource
[11:37] <DIM> can this be installed on a ntfs file system ?
[11:37] <analiser> chx: u read avove
[11:37] <raj> troy1of2,  ok gotcha
[11:37] <jaxB> seems like us.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[11:37] <shari> gdb:  I see above, sorry, missed that.  OK, will do
[11:37] <gatekeeper> jaxB: us ones yes, possible use ca
[11:37] <raj> u will have to login as root
[11:37] <gnomefreak> DIM: i dont think so. AFAIK it can be installed on FAT32
[11:37] <troy1of2> Well, if I go into a terminal as root I can change ownership of the folder and all that but when I go back in under GNOME it still says I can't do anything.
[11:37] <raj> and change permisson
[11:37] <jaxB> gatekeeper thanks will try
[11:37] <c0de> dli: I'm choosing dapper for everything on that site you gave me..
[11:38] <Amaranth> crimsun: yep
[11:38] <c0de> dli: Do I select packages or sources in each section ?
[11:38] <gatekeeper> jaxB: yw :-) everyone seems to be having problems
[11:38] <esc_ape> so, I'm trying to install dapper on my friends computer. the installer (text based alternate iso) keeps getting stuck at "configuring apt - scanning the mirror - 40%" no matter what. any ideas on what I should do?
[11:38] <troy1of2> Okay, so can I do that through a terminal or do I need to reboot and login as root into the GUI?
[11:38] <dli> c0de, you don't need src
[11:39] <c0de> dli: So choose packages for each section ?
[11:39] <dli> c0de, read!
[11:39] <raj> troy1of2,  well u an try from here
[11:39] <raj> open konsole, become a super user
[11:39] <robertj> esc_ape: check to see if the cd is bad
[11:39] <esc_ape> cd is fine. no errors
[11:39] <gatekeeper> esc_ape: us mirrors are down
[11:40] <crimsun> Amaranth: ok, I'm not familiar w/ what vmware's attempting to do
[11:40] <troy1of2> Okay, I have a console window open and am superuser in it.
[11:40] <esc_ape> gatekeeper: thanks. I thought something would be messed up with the mirrors
[11:40] <esc_ape> any idea when they'll be back up?
[11:40] <raj> troy type cat /etc/fstab
[11:40] <raj> do u see ur win partition there?
[11:40] <jaxB> works perfect thanks guys
[11:40] <gatekeeper> esc_ape: if the installer gives you a choice use ca
[11:41] <chx> aside from apt-cache search and google for a binary orinoco driver deb, any better ideas?
[11:41] <Amaranth> crimsun: it's ok, i know of a fix (it's a wrapper that makes vmware use esd) but i was hoping to make it work for real since it's faster that way
[11:41] <cpk2> esc_ape: nope, but it doesnt mean you cant keep installing packages! just remove US from all the entries in sources.list
[11:41] <crimsun> Amaranth: what type of wrapper is it?
[11:41] <Amaranth> crimsun: no idea, it's another binary blob
[11:42] <crimsun> Amaranth: ugh.
[11:42] <c0de> dli: Hmm, do I click every box that says give me a source list, or only click the last one ?
[11:42] <troy1of2> Okay, I did that. I'm seeing HDA4 is ext3, that's where I have ubuntu installed, then I have an HDA6 which is a swap partition, then my CDROM but I don't see the HDA5 here.
[11:42] <raj> troy1of2,  ok u will have to add hda5 settings there
[11:42] <Coffeegrinds> anyone have any recomendations on a vnc server
[11:43] <raj> open that file in gedit
[11:43] <billybennett> tightvnc
[11:43] <raj> gedit /etc/fstab
[11:43] <troy1of2> Okay, doing that now...
[11:43] <gdb> troy1of2: How do you have Ubuntu installed on hda4?  Which partition is your extended?
[11:43] <Coffeegrinds> coo, thanks
[11:43] <gnomefreak> DIMMER80: ask in the channel not in my /notice nor in my PM thank you
[11:44] <troy1of2> Well, it opened, but it said this while opening:
[11:44] <troy1of2> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[11:44] <troy1of2> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:44] <gatekeeper> raj: he will want  sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:44] <esc_ape> ok looks like the us mirror is back up...or the installer skipped the mirror scanning. everything is installing now
[11:44] <rudefyet> ok i installed network-manager and it works flawlessy with my WPA  network...but I can't seem to connect to any unsecured networks with it
[11:44] <gnomefreak> DIMMER80: i asked you not to do that
[11:44] <DIMMER80> np gnome i had a notice from you didnt know how ya wanted me to respond
[11:44] <raj> gatekeeper, he is superuser
[11:44] <gatekeeper> raj: ok
[11:45] <analiser> hey chx Grab the drivers at the usual place : http://www.projectiwear.org/~plasmahh/orinoco.html
[11:45] <c0de> dli: Ok nvm. Now that my source.list file is totally new, do I do a apt-get update now ?
[11:45] <raj> troy1of2,  u did open that file as super user ?
[11:45] <dli> c0de, yes
[11:46] <troy1of2> Yes, it's open.
[11:46] <zukalk> is it possible for gstreamer to handle mms:// ? seems there's a gstreamer0.8-mms package, but nothing for GStreamer 0.10. what should i do?
[11:46] <raj> troy1of2,  ok
[11:46] <troy1of2> Not sure what to do next though.
[11:46] <raj> now add the /dev/hda5 partition there
[11:46] <c0de> dli: Ok, this came up at the bottom. Reading package lists... Done
[11:46] <c0de> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[11:46] <c0de> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:46] <chx> analiser: those are _not_ binary.
[11:47] <chx> analiser: unless i am missing something obvious
[11:47] <raj> /dev/hda5      /mnt/c     vfat    defaults        0       0
[11:47] <gdb> c0de: I thought you said you were selecting dapper respositories?
[11:47] <dli> c0de, use offical ubuntu only :)
[11:47] <raj> replace /mnt/c with whatever mount point u made for ur win partition
[11:47] <c0de> Ok
[11:47] <raj> ok troy?
[11:48] <troy1of2> Okay, working on it.
[11:48] <analiser> a ok sorry
[11:49] <troy1of2> Okay, I ended up with this then. Does it look okay?
[11:49] <troy1of2> Oops.
[11:49] <troy1of2> dev/hda5        /home/troy/shared     vfat    defaults        0       0
[11:49] <raj> it is /dev/hda5
[11:49] <rraphink> vfat doesn't look ok
[11:49] <rraphink> because vfat sucks
[11:49] <c0de> dli: W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[11:49] <rraphink> and yes as raj says there's a dash missing :)
[11:49] <gatekeeper> troy1of2: got an empty line at the bottom of the file?
[11:50] <Southron> I'm trying to install Edubuntu 6.06 from CD-R onto an HP Pavillion 6636. It boots from the CD and begins the installation, getting through all the language steps, but then complains that it can't find the CD-ROM drive (even thought it obviously has been using it up to that point). Any ideas?
[11:50] <troy1of2> Yes, but when I left the / in for some reason my chat client thought I was sending a command.
[11:50] <Jowi> troy1of2: you might want to add this after defaults ",umask=000" so that all users can write to it.
[11:50] <raj> troy1of2,  oh ok
[11:50] <c0de> dli: Maybe I dont need that, its for like win32 codecs...lemme take that line out and try again
[11:50] <raj> rest is ok, save change , close file, reboot
[11:50] <raj> see if it works
[11:50] <rraphink> troy1of2: you can put a space before quoting, then ;)
[11:50] <raj> good luck
[11:50] <troy1of2> Okay, Jowi, should I leave the quotes in?
[11:50] <rraphink> raj : reboot ???
[11:51] <rraphink> troy1of2: no need to reboot, just `sudo mount -a`
[11:51] <c0de> dli: Ok that worked. Now how do I get gcc or synaptic?
[11:51] <raj> rraphink,  lol , i know it is not necassary
[11:51] <RetroMan> hi, what do I do if a ubuntu apt server seems to be down, and I cant install/update packages?
[11:51] <raj> but bad windows habit
[11:51] <raj> =))
[11:51] <Jowi> troy1of2: "defaults,umask=000" without quotes
[11:51] <rraphink> raj: waste of time mostly
[11:51] <gdb> c0de: to get gcc, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[11:51] <rraphink> mount -a takes 10 secones
[11:51] <raj> rraphink, sorry
[11:51] <rraphink> secondes
[11:51] <rraphink> reboot takes 3 minutes
[11:51] <raj> yes i know
[11:52] <c0de> dli: Ok thanks. Now what about synaptic ?
[11:52] <binary1> im having a problem when i use apt-get is says connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com, but it never connects, can some please help?
[11:52] <troy1of2> Ok, I did the sudo mount -a
[11:52] <gdb> c0de: It's already installed.  System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[11:52] <raj> troy1of2,  now chk that folder
[11:53] <RetroMan> binary1 I'm having the same problem
[11:53] <raj> if it is there or not
[11:53] <gatekeeper> binary1: they are down, remove .us in your sources.list
[11:53] <troy1of2> Well, it's letting me in. Still can't create a folder in it though.
[11:53] <cpk2> gatekeeper: its us. =P
[11:53] <c0de> dli: Ok could you help me with 2 more things if you don't mind ?
[11:53] <gatekeeper> binary1: us. sorry
[11:53] <Jowi> troy1of2: ooops, forgot. replace "defaults,umask=000" with "defaults,user,umask=000"
[11:53] <gdb> Is there a status on why they're down and an ETA on when they'll be available again?
[11:54] <gatekeeper> cpk2: ooops sorry
[11:54] <raj> troy1of2,  still cant?
[11:54] <binary1> how do i open my source file again in gedit??
[11:54] <Southron> Is there anyone who might help me with some installation problems?
[11:54] <raj> gatekeeper,  do u think he needs to add rw in fstab for vfat partition?
[11:55] <raj> gatekeeper,  he still cant write
[11:55] <element`ubuntu> what's the command to see what packages need to be updated?
[11:55] <c0de> dli: Could you tell me how to add fvwm-crystal into the gdm menu ?
[11:55] <troy1of2> Still no folder creation.
[11:55] <gatekeeper> raj: possible
[11:55] <Jowi> troy1of2: did you add "user"?
[11:55] <troy1of2> Okay, here's my line in fstab as it looks now:
[11:56] <troy1of2>  /dev/hda5        /home/troy/shared     vfat    defaults,user,umask=000
[11:56] <gatekeeper> raj: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[11:56] <dli> c0de, you want to run fvwm with gnome?
[11:56] <c0de> dli: Yeah. I want to be able to pick fvwm from the gdm screen
[11:56] <Jowi> troy1of2: should be "/dev/hda5        /home/troy/shared     vfat    defaults,user,umask=000   0    0"
[11:56] <raj> troy1of2,  it is wrong
[11:56] <troy1of2> ok
[11:57] <gatekeeper> raj: possible now definately :-)
[11:57] <raj> gatekeeper, lol
[11:57] <raj> troy1of2,  add rw too
[11:57] <troy1of2> rw where?
[11:57] <dli> c0de, you mean run fvwm only , or fvwm in gnome?
[11:58] <binary1> i open /etc/apt/sources.lst with gedit and its blank, is that right?
[11:58] <c0de> dli: I want to run fvwm but if I dont like it, I wanna be able to switch back to gnome or fluxbox
[11:58] <gatekeeper> troy1of2 may be you should pastebin when you are done so raj can take a look just an idea guys
[11:58] <Jowi> rw should not be necessary for vfat
[11:58] <Jack_Sparrow> 115meg so far..
[11:58] <Coffeegrinds> ok .. so I have got tightvnc to work, now how can i get it to either display  my 0 session instead of defaulting to session 1, I've tried appending :0 but itells me a vnc services is already running ..
[11:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry
[11:58] <raj> /dev/hda5        /home/troy/shared     vfat    defaults,user,rw,umask=000   0    0
[11:58] <eddie> ..
[11:58] <sysdoc> Anyone else having problems with this server? >http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/
[11:58] <verbose> Coffeegrinds: is vino running?
[11:58] <binary1> yes
[11:59] <dli> c0de, the problem is gnome is DE, not a wm, you can switch, but not simply as switching wms
[11:59] <binary1> i am and im trying to configure the sources file
[11:59] <Coffeegrinds> i don't beleive so .. It shouldn't be
[11:59] <raj> gatekeeper,  it is a  awesome site
[11:59] <c0de> dli: Ah ok. So how do I run fvwm only then?
[11:59] <_Spire_> sysdoc: it's been down since around noon CST
[11:59] <binary1> wanted to know if where i was, was correct
[11:59] <sysdoc> _Spire_, thx
[11:59] <dli> c0de, choose fvwm in gdm before login
[11:59] <Coffeegrinds> not showing in my process list
[11:59] <Hexidigital_> are the US repos down?
[11:59] <dli> c0de, that's the easiest
[11:59] <c0de> dli: Its not in there
[11:59] <troy1of2> Tried that, still not letting me write though for some reason.
[11:59] <_Spire_> Hexidigital_: yup. been down since around noon CST
[12:00] <Hexidigital_> _Spire_::  thanks :)
[12:00] <raj> troy1of2,  u saved changes?
[12:00] <_Spire_> Hexidigital_: at least for me
[12:00] <dli> c0de, install fvwm and restart gdm
[12:00] <shari_> gdb:  Im in the admin tools, the 34GB nfts seems to be my only bet.  I don't see where the files are on this, though
[12:00] <raj> unmount drive
[12:00] <binary1> i open /etc/apt/sources.lst with gedit and its blank, is that right?
[12:00] <raj> remount it again
[12:00] <gatekeeper> sysdoc: yes everyone
[12:00] <gatekeeper> sysdoc: they are down
[12:00] <_Spire_> Hexidigital_: it's not on ubuntu's servers - it's their mirror that's having problems
[12:00] <raj> then try
[12:00] <troy1of2> Okay, trying that.
[12:00] <sysdoc> _Spire_, is there an alternative server we should be using?
[12:00] <Coffeegrinds> verbose: i have it installed it seems
[12:00] <_Spire_> sysdoc: I'm just using the uk servers :P