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mhz	wow!	12:16
mhz	https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/XubuntuEdgy/Proposals	12:16
mhz	Excellent ideas for look and feel	12:16
mhz	it does look professional, modern, hot, edgy	12:17
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DanielC	Is anyone here going to be at LugRadio tomorrow?	12:31
DanielC	I'll be there.	12:31
mhz	what's on it?	12:32
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DanielC	Mark will be speaking... there's an Ubuntu booth...	12:32
LaserJock	what is LugRadio?	12:32
DanielC	ah	12:32
DanielC	It's sort of like a conference, but it gets podcasted.	12:33
DanielC	very informal	12:33
LaserJock	neato	12:33
DanielC	You can expect to see people making fun of Microsoft and stuff. Nothing too serious.	12:33
DanielC	Today there was a Microsoft guy talking about security :)	12:33
DanielC	I missed that talk, I would have loved to see the crowd's reaction.	12:34
DanielC	I met Henrik today!	12:35
DanielC	(at LugRadio)	12:35
mhz	DanielC: henrik as in hno73?	12:37
DanielC	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HenrikOmma	12:38
mhz	that henrik	12:38
mhz	yeah, nice guy	12:38
DanielC	I don't know if that is hno73	12:38
mhz	yup	12:38
DanielC	ok	12:38
mhz	ot 75	12:38
mhz	or	12:38
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DanielC	I gave a presentation about OpenDocument, and demonstrated a viewer. After the talked he asked me about making an accessible version.	12:39
DanielC	Turns out that a basic fully-accessible ODF reader is easy given the work we've already done.	12:40
mhz	cool!	12:40
mhz	yeah, Hnerik is one of the leaders of a11y team	12:40
mhz	in ubuntu	12:40
DanielC	The viewer works by turning ODF into HTML and giving it to Gecko. To make an accessible one, just give the HTML to lynx instead.	12:41
mhz	ooh	12:41
mhz	simple idea	12:41
mhz	seems to be effective	12:41
DanielC	yup	12:41
mhz	eurkea!!!	12:50
DanielC	?	12:50
mhz	Schooltool Login Info:	12:50
mhz	user -> manager	12:50
mhz	pwd -> schooltool	12:50
mhz	http://localhost:7080	12:50
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Amaranth	anyone have any experience with freenx?	01:30
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LaserJock	I never got it working :/	01:31
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Viper550	Hello again	02:27
LaserJock	hi	02:27
Viper550	I just made a port of EdubuntuColors to the Candido GTK Engine	02:29
Amaranth	screenshot!	02:29
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Viper550	Sorry for the slowness, but did someone ask for a screenshot?	02:40
Burgundavia	ye	02:41
Burgundavia	s	02:41
Viper550	http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=edubuntucandidola2.png	02:41
LaserJock	I'm not sure what to look for but that looks nice	02:42
Viper550	LaserJock: Do you have the Candido GTK engine yet?	02:47
LaserJock	not sure, I don't really use X much, tbh	02:47
Viper550	Really?	02:48
Viper550	So that means you use IRSSI as your IRC client too right?	02:48
LaserJock	yeah	02:48
Viper550	But, how were you able to view my image? Let me guess, it's running in gnome-terminal, right?	02:48
LaserJock	I like X but I usually have to ssh into my Ubuntu boxes	02:48
Viper550	So you use a Gnome Terminal in X to ssh to your systems?	02:49
LaserJock	well, I'm usually in OS X so I use a terminal	02:49
LaserJock	but I copy the URL and use firefox	02:49
LaserJock	so I use GUI somewhat, but not Linux GUI	02:50
LaserJock	I also VNC if I need GUI	02:50
LaserJock	here's how bad it is ATM	02:51
LaserJock	don't laugh or spear me	02:51
LaserJock	I'm using PuttY to ssh from Windows into my mac running OS X to use irssi	02:51
Viper550	WOAH!	02:51
Viper550	You know, they do have X-Chat for Windows	02:52
Viper550	http://www.silverex.org/news/	02:52
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Lord_Athur	hi all	02:53
LaserJock	Viper550: yeah, but my mac is on 24x7	02:53
Viper550	Cool	02:53
LaserJock	it's the only computer I have access to that is on all the time	02:54
LaserJock	so that's were I do irssi from	02:54
LaserJock	I also have Xchat on my Windows laptop but I don't use it so much	02:54
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LaserJock	well, if my Ubuntu box was ever on I'd use that	03:28
LaserJock	but it eats up electricity and makes the whole room hot in the summer	03:28
HedgeMage	mhz: ping!	03:33
mhz	HedgeMage: pong	03:36
mhz	yeah, I have not sent the minute	03:36
HedgeMage	hehe	03:37
HedgeMage	you read my mind :)	03:37
HedgeMage	Have an ETA or should I pull up logs and try to find time to do it?	03:37
mhz	ETA?	03:38
mhz	HedgeMage: I know I will send it during next hour	03:39
mhz	no later than that	03:39
HedgeMage	Estimated Time of Availability/Arrival	03:39
HedgeMage	Thanks! you rock :)	03:39
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HedgeMage	np, I know you're busy	03:39
mhz	HedgeMage: nah, I only rock when I get kisses :D	03:39
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mhz	not that busy, but yes, not very good at defining priorities among many to dos :D	03:40
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mhz	th1a: hey!	03:43
mhz	th1a: I have a couple of questions fo ryou if possble	03:43
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mhz	re	04:15
mhz	th1a: oing	04:15
mhz	p	04:15
Amaranth	http://www.realistanew.com/random/freenx.png <--now i can break things in safety	04:16
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Burgundavia	Amaranth: what wall paper are you using?	04:20
Amaranth	I have no idea, I found it on deviantart.	04:20
Amaranth	http://www.deviantart.com/view/25814423/	04:22
Amaranth	found it :)	04:22
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th1a	mhz: pong	04:57
mhz	th1a: got a sec?	04:57
th1a	Yeah.	04:57
mhz	th1a: I am testing some apps shiped default in Edubuntu	04:58
mhz	as you know, Schooltool is	04:58
mhz	however, we don't provide any info	04:58
mhz	about it	04:59
th1a	Indeed.	04:59
mhz	it took me over 1 hour to get login info via google	04:59
th1a	Yes, that is a problem.	04:59
mhz	because you were not on channel	04:59
mhz	:)	04:59
mhz	and people who were, never answered	04:59
th1a	There is a README...	05:00
mhz	I tried to test CanDo, too.	05:00
th1a	So what should we do?	05:00
mhz	the url is broken	05:00
mhz	/usr/share/schooltool	05:00
mhz	has no readme	05:00
th1a	I don't know anything about the details of packaging.	05:01
mhz	yeah,	05:01
th1a	We have a README in our source.	05:01
mhz	hence I am very interested on providing info about ir	05:01
mhz	th1a: my main interest is getting very aquainted with SchoolTool as well as with CanDo	05:02
mhz	esp. if Edubuntu will continue shipping it	05:02
mhz	I have tried it for about 50 minutes	05:02
mhz	and still can't delete any TT	05:02
mhz	even after getting Access correctly	05:03
mhz	etc	05:03
th1a	mhz: The packages are rather out of date.	05:03
mhz	oh	05:03
th1a	We've been writing a ton of code, which wouldn't be ready for Dapper.	05:03
Amaranth	hrm	05:03
mhz	th1a: oh, i see	05:04
Amaranth	using ltsp to change the proxy settings for every user i'd just have to change the debconf and base gconf proxy settings on the server, right?	05:04
th1a	For Breezy, we had a calendar;	05:05
th1a	in Edgy we'll have a basic student information system.	05:05
mhz	th1a: also, I am writing stuff for Edubuntu Handbook, esp. Edubuntu for lighter pc's. I believe SchoolTool deserves a subchapter	05:05
th1a	But right now, we just have an alpha student information system,	05:05
th1a	which we couldn't put in Dapper.	05:05
th1a	mhz: Yes, indeed.	05:05
mhz	Amaranth: hmm, no idea. I know ogra had an 'episode' with iwj about it	05:05
mhz	Amaranth: i am sure Yagisan is an expert on security issues	05:06
Amaranth	mhz: yeah, probably about transparent proxying :)	05:06
mhz	oops, just left	05:06
mhz	heheh	05:06
th1a	mhz: We're not quite at the point where I want to spend a lot of time writing docs.	05:06
Amaranth	the original idea for willowng was transparent proxying, now i'm doing the debconf and gconf stuff	05:06
mhz	th1a: I am	05:06
th1a	We just changed around the basic navigational paradigm (now, with tabs!), and similar key things are just settling down.	05:07
mhz	however, maybe not a "lot of writing" but at least a decent amount of paragraphs	05:07
th1a	We also just completely changed access control, for example.	05:07
th1a	mhz: Are we thinking for Edgy or current users?	05:07
mhz	yup	05:08
th1a	Which?	05:08
mhz	edgy	05:10
mhz	sorry	05:10
mhz	I missed last 2 words :)	05:10
mhz	edgy	05:10
th1a	OK.	05:10
mhz	hence my concern	05:10
th1a	What's your time frame?	05:10
mhz	and personally, because I am demoing Edubuntu at least once or twice a week	05:10
mhz	to diff lab teachers	05:10
mhz	Sep 1st, freeze	05:11
mhz	(freeze for Edubuntu Handbook	05:11
th1a	OK. How many pages are we talking?	05:11
mhz	2 -> 10 th proofread and last minute changes	05:11
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mhz	11 -> 29 th, translations	05:11
mhz	th1a: I want to write at least 10 lines per each funcionality in SchoolTool	05:12
mhz	and hopefully a screenshoot	05:12
th1a	mhz: Well, we're planning on releasing our first test packages for Edgy real soon now, probably in about a week.	05:13
th1a	That would be the place for you to start, I think.	05:13
th1a	I'll certainly help.	05:14
mhz	th1a: THANK you very much	05:16
mhz	I am sure that if I can test everything shipped, I can write those 10 lines per feature	05:17
Burgundavia	th1a: are you on track for your 2006 goals>	05:17
th1a	mhz: Also, I'm going to be spending most of August setting up SchoolTool instances for various schools, which should make it easy for me to know what needs to be written.	05:17
th1a	Burgundavia: Erhm... we're a bit behind.	05:17
mhz	ehhee, yeah, good.	05:17
Burgundavia	th1a: lack of people?	05:17
mhz	th1a: and how about CanDo?	05:18
th1a	Development via paid contractors is not proving to be reliably fast, at least as managed by me.	05:18
th1a	mhz: CanDo is on schedule... but it is a more conventional project. That is, they're scratching their own itch.	05:19
mhz	oohh	05:19
th1a	Scratching the world's itch is inherently more difficult.	05:19
Burgundavia	how does cando fit into schooltool?	05:20
Burgundavia	I am little confused on that point	05:20
th1a	CanDo is like a module, or set of modules.	05:20
th1a	It is focused on competency tracking.	05:20
Burgundavia	ok	05:20
th1a	But we did a lot of work with their developers to share important parts of the data model for assessment in general.	05:20
Burgundavia	so it plugs into schooltool?	05:21
mhz	CanDo is a very needed tool in school envs.	05:21
th1a	It is also a case where last years CanDo and this year's CanDo are totally different.	05:21
mhz	Usually, many schools in Chile are adopting Moodle. However, Competency Tracking is very important	05:21
Burgundavia	how does moodle fit into schooltool?	05:22
th1a	Last year's was kind of a crude bolt-on job, but now we have it more properly integrated.	05:22
th1a	Well, we need to share data with Moodle.	05:22
th1a	Moodle understands courses, but not the structure of schools as a whole.	05:22
Burgundavia	is that where SIF comes in?	05:22
th1a	Bingo!	05:22
th1a	We're kind of at this point where we either adopt a neutral standard or talking to Moodle becomes the defacto standard.	05:23
th1a	Although there are also IMS standards for sharing data with learning management systems like Moodle,	05:24
mhz	SIF?	05:24
th1a	but IMS has a very elearning-centric view of the universe, whereas SIF is more general.	05:24
th1a	mhz: SIF: the Schools Interoperability Framework - http://www.sifinfo.org	05:24
Burgundavia	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_Interoperability_Framework	05:25
th1a	It is kind of a weird case, because it is an open standard with only proprietary implementation at this point.	05:25
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th1a	I've been writing some code for an open source "Zone Integration Server" which is basically an XML router that SIF depends on.	05:26
th1a	It is going pretty well.	05:26
mhz	nice	05:27
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th1a	http://sifsoft.com/trac	05:27
Burgundavia	th1a: how well are you doing with paid vs volunteers devs?	05:27
th1a	Well, SchoolTool has always experienced the effect of paid development severely dampening volunteer development,	05:28
th1a	plus not many people know Zope 3.	05:28
mhz	th1a: and, so Moodle will be, or it could be Moin to create courses instead? (then it is all python)	05:28
Burgundavia	hmm, issues	05:29
th1a	Well... you just need some kind of platform-neutral way of moving them around.	05:29
th1a	There are a bunch of elearning standards for content packaging and interoperability.	05:29
th1a	Plus SchoolTool proper (i.e., the part Mark funds) is specifically NOT for holding content.	05:30
jsgotangco	hey tom	05:30
mhz	yeah, actually, I am still not sure if supporting Exelearning or Edubuntu Study Content (edu content via APT)	05:30
mhz	(exelearning can get you SCORM)	05:31
th1a	So we have a gradebook, assignment events, but not literally lessons.	05:31
th1a	jsgotangco: Hi.	05:31
mhz	yup	05:31
mhz	and CanDo will add that interesting part	05:32
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elmago55	Hola	05:32
mhz	elmago55: hi	05:32
th1a	mhz: CanDo is still mostly pointing to external lessons.	05:33
mhz	yup	05:33
mhz	interesting extra part	05:33
mhz	I meant	05:33
mhz	I have been asked many times "I need to evaluate competencies"	05:34
mhz	not "memory"	05:34
th1a	mhz: What part of the world are you in?	05:35
mhz	Chile	05:35
th1a	Ah. Interesting.	05:35
mhz	we'll have a kind of moodle congress sponsored by people in CEPAL	05:35
mhz	IIRC, Center of Studies for Latin America	05:36
th1a	CanDo is having a sprint next week, and I think we'll be starting to package their release for the fall school year.	05:36
mhz	nice, I have been looking up a demo server unsuccessfully yet	05:37
th1a	Yeah... they're pretty much done, so we should be able to work on that.	05:38
mhz	the one on the site just does not exist :)	05:38
th1a	The problem with open source projects based at an individual school: you can write code quickly, but all the other infrastructure of running an open source project is hard to maintain, because you don't have a lot of extra resources.	05:41
mhz	indeed	05:42
mhz	+1	05:42
th1a	At the same time, it was hard getting them to move all their documents, etc., off their school's site and onto schooltool.org. The teachers involved were more comfortable with their own site.	05:44
th1a	So I pretty much gave up on that.	05:44
Burgundavia	we almost need a company to be behind schooltool	05:44
Burgundavia	somebody to offer support services, etc.	05:44
th1a	We do.	05:45
th1a	Mainly we need to finish it.	05:45
Burgundavia	yep	05:45
Burgundavia	you think you will spin off much like highvoltage and his crew just did?	05:45
th1a	We're already spun off TSF...	05:46
Burgundavia	oh?	05:46
th1a	I mean, the history is that SchoolTool was one of the first TSF projects, years ago,	05:46
mhz	Burgundavia: I do	05:47
mhz	:D	05:47
mhz	Burgundavia: I have a workgroup called Tecnocimiento	05:47
th1a	Before Mark was a cosmonaut, even.	05:47
mhz	we were meant to be a foundation in Chile but we just cant afford to	05:47
mhz	so, we are a "workgroup"	05:47
mhz	we provide support to Schools implementing Edubuntu	05:48
th1a	Anyhow, that first TSF-managed version blew up in a blaze of Java,	05:48
mhz	we demo edubuntu at least 1 or 2 times every week to diff lab teachers	05:48
th1a	and the TSF vowed to not try to manage a large software project again (or at least that's how I understand the tale).	05:48
th1a	So Mark hired Steve Alexander and Programmers of Vilnius to start writing a new version.	05:49
th1a	It was Mark's focus briefly, between going into space and starting Canonical.	05:49
mhz	lol	05:49
th1a	So I work directly for Mark.	05:49
Burgundavia	yes, I read that blog post of marks	05:50
Burgundavia	ok, next question: what is schoolbell?	05:50
th1a	Well, that was another bright idea...	05:51
th1a	Essentially we tried spinning of just the calendar server.	05:51
th1a	Hoping that would attract some volunteer development in its own right.	05:51
Burgundavia	and how did that work?	05:51
th1a	It didn't, for various reasons.	05:51
Burgundavia	ah	05:51
Burgundavia	so schoolbell is now an integral part again?	05:52
th1a	We might have had some chance with it if we'd relicensed more of it as BSD-ish instead of GPL.	05:52
Burgundavia	why BSDish?	05:52
th1a	Or if Zope 3 had become more popular.	05:52
th1a	Well, more people might have used the iCalendar libraries if they had been BSD, LGPL, or similar.	05:53
Burgundavia	ah	05:53
th1a	That came up on discussions about Python and calendaring at the time.	05:53
th1a	So the source tree has been reorganized and in theory we can produce a SchoolBell package from our SchoolTool source tree, but we don't have any time to actually try it out.	05:54
th1a	We have other priorities.	05:54
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cbx33	mornin	08:02
lecaros	night for me yet	08:02
mhz	cbx33: hey	08:03
cbx33	hi mhz	08:04
mhz	cbx33: what's your TZ?	08:04
cbx33	howz it all going	08:04
cbx33	GMT	08:04
lecaros	oh, here we are GMT -4 :(	08:04
cbx33	7 am here	08:04
mhz	cbx33: lecaros is one of the few people actively helping me in Chile with Edubuntu	08:04
cbx33	ah,.......hi lecaros	08:04
lecaros	hi cbx33	08:04
cbx33	mhz, did you say you were goign to start ranslating the ESA?	08:05
mhz	sip	08:05
mhz	i mean	08:05
mhz	yup	08:05
cbx33	:D	08:05
mhz	cbx33: why?	08:05
cbx33	no reason	08:06
cbx33	brb	08:06
mhz	buu	08:09
lecaros	I think cbx33 wants to help us ;)	08:10
mhz	nah	08:10
mhz	he wrote ESA	08:11
cbx33	right I'm off guys	08:21
cbx33	take care	08:21
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Phlosten	hi all	09:00
HedgeMage	hello :)	09:02
lecaros	hi Phlosten	09:02
Phlosten	damn wiki is down, so I am here for enlightenment	09:03
HedgeMage	on what?	09:05
Phlosten	getting a client to boot from Edubuntu	09:05
Phlosten	from what I gather a standard Edubuntu install is ready to go in terms of a client booting from it	09:06
HedgeMage	pretty much... I'm no LTSP guru, though. I've only really done the standalone stuff.	09:06
Burgundavia	Phlosten: http://edubuntu.org/GettingStarted	09:06
Burgundavia	HedgeMage: one up from me. I have never actually installed edubuntu	09:07
HedgeMage	Burgundavia: gasp	09:07
HedgeMage	Burgundavia: we will have to remedy that :P	09:07
Burgundavia	right	09:07
Burgundavia	I got as far as downloading it the other day	09:07
HedgeMage	that's a good first step, I guess :P	09:08
Phlosten	now I created a netboot disk for my old machine and it boots up until a point where it says,.."Searching for server (DHCP)...No IP Address"	09:08
Burgundavia	you need to generate teh dhcp information, I believe	09:09
Phlosten	for the boot disk?	09:09
Phlosten	or is it server config	09:09
Burgundavia	on the server config	09:09
Phlosten	ok, bbl	09:14
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lecaros	bye guys	09:34
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juliux	hi all	12:07
juliux	has somebody an idea which ltsp somebody is using if he needs to activate xdmcp??	12:07
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spacey	juliux: the ltsp.org ltsp works with xdmcp	01:37
juliux	spacey, ah, but the user said he only installed edubuntu	01:50
spacey	then you don't need xdmcp	02:11
spacey	if he uses the ubuntu variant	02:11
juliux	i ask him for the output from dpkg -l ltsp-server so we can see which version is realy installed	02:12
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bddebian	Howdy	04:06
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Lord_Athur	hi, is there any problem with the ubuntu pages?	04:13
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marcel`	hi, im not really a teacher or anything but i like the concept is it ok if i stick arround?	04:20
bddebian	Only if you get to work. ;-)	04:23
marcel`	As in my day job?	04:23
bddebian	I was thinking as in helping with Edubuntu, but I was joking anyway. :)	04:23
marcel`	Ah oke well i just installed edubuntu today so i doubt if i can help you guys but maybe when i get more experienced whit linux..	04:25
bddebian	Actually all joking aside, just getting user feedback can be good.	04:28
marcel`	ok well just ask if you want me to test anything or want my opion or something like that :)	04:31
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sloncho	hi. how do i start text mode install. i do not want the graphical installer	05:03
sloncho	the gpartitioner sucks big time	05:03
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sloncho	how do i start text mode install. i do not want the graphical installer	05:11
mhz	RichEd: hi there	05:13
mhz	RichEd: get my "short" email ?	05:13
juliux	hi mhz	05:24
mhz	juliux: hey! good to see ya	05:25
juliux	mhz, how are you?	05:25
mhz	juliux: very motivated to work next 3 days on edubuntu only stuff	05:26
=== mhz is unemployed so, while looking for a job... edubuntu is my # priority
juliux	mhz, great	05:26
mhz	juliux: how about you?	05:26
juliux	good	05:26
juliux	i will fly back to germany in 3 hours	05:27
mhz	where are you?	05:28
juliux	in lonodn	05:36
juliux	london	05:36
juliux	cu later	05:37
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Viper550	Hello again everyone	05:58
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mhz	hmm, is it me or there are some issues when trying to connect to ubuntu sites_	06:53
mhz	?	06:54
marcel`	mhz: not its not just you there are many ubuntu services down atm	07:06
mhz	marcel`: oh, thanks for checking too	07:06
mhz	and I had convinced my wife to let me use a couple of hours on Edubuntu stuff it is on the sites ?)	07:07
mhz	:(	07:07
=== mhz is using diff xmodmap now... so fingers still go to other keys
HedgeMage	mhz: thanks for the Handbook meeting minutes :)	07:25
HedgeMage	mhz: you can work on handbook, the unofficial repo is unaffected ;)	07:26
HedgeMage	speaking of which, you need commit access.	07:26
mhz	HedgeMage: yeah, your kisses work miracles	07:27
=== mhz gotta get familiar with SVN, though
=== HedgeMage kisses mhz
HedgeMage	mhz: I wrote up a "basics" email for a couple of other people not used to it... shall I send it to you, too?	07:28
mhz	why not	07:29
mhz	yeah	07:29
=== mhz get the kisses and jumps in
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HedgeMage	hehe	07:32
=== pygi tickles HedgeMage
HedgeMage	mhz: send to mhz@ubuntu.com?	07:36
HedgeMage	hi pygi :)	07:36
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HedgeMage	hi highvoltage	07:40
HedgeMage	did you get my jabber messages from earlier?	07:40
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lecaros	hi guys	07:54
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mhz	netsplit?	07:55
mhz	lol	07:55
mhz	between kisses and tickles..	07:56
highvoltage	HedgeMage: i haven't logged in yet... just a moment...	07:56
mhz	and getting wet by spry	07:56
mhz	who knows what will happen	07:56
mhz	highvoltage: hi	07:57
mhz	re edubuntu site translation/ my guess it would be lot more efficient if we could work on the same site, generating the -es pages	07:58
highvoltage	hey mhz!	07:59
highvoltage	(and hi to HedgeMage too, btw ;) )	07:59
highvoltage	HedgeMage: opened up those links in tabs, will look just now when it's loaded (very slow connection here)	08:00
highvoltage	mhz: nods	08:00
mhz	highvoltage: so, is it possible to have access to drupal and start translating on it, or you prefer the dumping idea?	08:00
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HellDragon	hi	08:00
mhz	hi, HellDragon	08:01
HedgeMage	hi HellDragon	08:01
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HedgeMage	HellDragon: We could really use some help on the Edubuntu Handbook	08:01
HedgeMage	HellDragon: we expect to publish it in October (via lulu) to coincide with Edgy's release.	08:01
HellDragon	:o	08:01
highvoltage	ubuntu.com down?	08:01
HedgeMage	highvoltage: yep	08:02
mhz_food	yup	08:02
HedgeMage	highvoltage: a number of things are.	08:02
mhz_food	for last 2 hours at least	08:02
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HedgeMage	mhz_food: get my email?	08:02
HedgeMage	HellDragon: sound interesting to you?	08:03
HellDragon	HedgeMage, yep	08:03
HedgeMage	cool	08:03
mhz_food	HedgeMage: i'll check after lunch time and some time with my daughter	08:03
mhz_food	sorry	08:03
mhz_food	TZ are diff	08:03
mhz_food	:D	08:03
HedgeMage	mhz_food: np just wanted to make sure I used the right address	08:03
mhz_food	mhz AT ubuntu DOT com	08:04
HedgeMage	yep that's what I sent it to :)	08:04
highvoltage	(brb)	08:04
HedgeMage	HellDragon: The wiki is down ATM but if you have Subversion installed you can get the chapter list from our "unofficial" repo	08:04
=== mhz_food gotta go off a little
HellDragon	i have subversion, what is the unofficial repo address please ?	08:05
HedgeMage	http://svn.binaryredneck.net/handbook	08:06
HedgeMage	HellDragon: so what do you think?	08:36
HellDragon	well it looks good so far but im kinda lost lol	08:37
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highvoltage	HedgeMage: i need to get to bed now, I'll ping you again tomorrow. goodnight!	08:50
HedgeMage	night night	08:51
HedgeMage	oops, too late	08:51
mhz_food	HedgeMage: maybe he would have stayed longer if you'd have snet kisses to him too	08:51
mhz_food	:D	08:51
mhz_food	oops, I am stil at lunch	08:52
HedgeMage	hehe	08:52
=== HedgeMage kisses mhz_food so he'll keep coming back ;)
marcel`	haha	08:52
mhz_food	lol	08:52
mhz_food	and HedgeMage remeber pygi needs the anti-tickle spary	08:53
mhz_food	too	08:53
HedgeMage	hehe	08:53
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HedgeMage	;)	08:53
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mhz_food	HedgeMage: nope, no email from you yet	09:12
HellDragon	heh	09:12
HedgeMage	mhz_food: odd	09:14
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mhz_food	HedgeMage: what is your email address?	09:24
mhz_food	maybe I deleted it or got caught as spam	09:25
HedgeMage	mhz_food: hedgemage@binaryredneck.net	09:25
=== mhz_food only reads emails with at least 3 word subject and non generic stuff, the other 500 emails go to trash
HedgeMage	the subject was "Edubuntu Handbook SVN info"	09:26
HedgeMage	I know the ettiquette ;)	09:26
mhz_food	okis	09:26
mhz_food	HedgeMage: i did not know it was ettiquette now	09:26
HedgeMage	mhz_food: has been for years, AFAIK	09:27
mhz_food	nope, no email from you at all	09:28
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HedgeMage	I'll try again	09:41
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HedgeMage	mhz_food: mhz -AT- ubuntu -DOT- com correct?	09:42
mhz_food	yup	09:42
mhz_food	or try... mhz AT tecnocimiento DOT cl	09:42
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HedgeMage	I'll do both just in case.	09:42
HedgeMage	mhz: sent.	09:44
mhz	-me checks	09:44
HedgeMage	if you still don't have it, I'll try again from my military email account	09:45
mhz	military?	09:46
mhz	lol! I got the 2 o'em	09:46
HedgeMage	mhz: my husband is in the US Army... I have an email account on their servers. I try to avoid using it for personal stuff, though.	09:46
HedgeMage	cool	09:46
mhz	HedgeMage: and because Military may get my emails and control my communications, etc	09:47
mhz	:D	09:47
HedgeMage	heh, I always ask before using that with anyone in another country, I don't always know the climate in different places.	09:49
mhz	yeah, one could write "something courious"	09:50
HedgeMage	heh	09:56
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pygi	mhz: what ? you are making plots behind my backs???	11:38
mhz	pygi: hehehe	11:39
mhz	everything for kisses	11:40
pygi	damn you :'(	11:40
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mhz	pygi: however, you decided to get the anti-tickle spray, not me	11:42
pygi	mhz: that aint true	11:42
mhz	nope?	11:43
pygi	no, Hedgemage decided to get it	11:43
mhz	oh, yeah, right	11:43
mhz	well, i get kisses maybe because I am more handsome :)	11:43
pygi	ergh, you and your plots !!!	11:43
HedgeMage	lol	11:44
mhz	hey, it is not my fault i have this charm :p	11:44
pygi	I havent complained about the kisses, I am complaining about the plots :P	11:44
HedgeMage	You two are cute ;)	11:44
=== HedgeMage blows pygi a kiss from a few steps out of tickling range
mhz	pygi: a real plot would be I send you to ask stuff to iwj :D	11:44
pygi	mhz: ergh, I must admit you are right on this one :P	11:46
mhz	hehehehehe	11:46
mhz	i am right and 'transparent"	11:46
=== mhz is translating schooltool pages
=== pygi evades HedgeMage :P
mhz	see? you give us arguments for the plot	11:48
pygi	mhz: bleh :P	11:50

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