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| robertj | Amaranth: thanks, http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html sheds some light on what that phase is for. I assume packes in NEW are reviewed periodically without the need for poking? | 12:14 |
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| Amaranth | i think so | 12:15 |
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| Amaranth | most people poke though | 12:15 |
| robertj | so who is the most-chosen victim of such attention? | 12:17 |
| crimsun | robertj: yes, they are. | 12:18 |
| robertj | so err, don't poke? | 12:19 |
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| crimsun | correct, unless it's a critical package | 12:19 |
| robertj | ok, no-pokey pokey | 12:21 |
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| jadaz87 | hello everyone i was wondering if there is a list somewhere of every package that is installed by default for the ubuntu server distro | 01:59 |
| Burgundavia | jadaz87: see the seeds, http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/ | 02:00 |
| jadaz87 | ahh thanks Burgundavia | 02:00 |
| Burgundavia | jadaz87: no worries | 02:01 |
| jadaz87 | Burgundavia: and it has everything categorized thanks | 02:01 |
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| jadaz87 | Burgundavia: may i pm you? | 02:06 |
| Burgundavia | sure | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | the seed are also on LP | 02:08 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure if they are kept in sync with ^^ or not | 02:09 |
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| warpup_lite | hmm | 03:33 |
| sistpoty | mjg59: thanks for the feedback on debian/copyright issue... I'll overhaul parts of the FAQ (tomorrow, it's 3.30 here) | 03:35 |
| warpup_lite | debian copyright? | 03:35 |
| sistpoty | warpup_lite: see the ubuntu-motu mailing list at lists.ubuntu.com | 03:37 |
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| warpup_lite | i don't have an account at lists.ubuntu.com | 04:11 |
| infinity | slomo: Done. | 04:12 |
| bddebian | Heya infinity | 04:12 |
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| Hobbsee | warpup_lite: make one? | 04:21 |
| sistpoty | mjg59: sorry for last highlight, mixed up nicks here | 04:22 |
| mjg59 | sistpoty: No problem :) | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | hi mjg59, and everyone else | 04:25 |
| mjg59 | Oh my god I've been in a converted warehouse and there was loud music and it was entirely I WANT IT TO LOOK JUST LIKE THIS | 04:30 |
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| bddebian | heh | 04:31 |
| mjg59 | jdub: totally | 04:31 |
| mjg59 | We need to bring GUADEC people her next year | 04:31 |
| mjg59 | (I'm in Wolverhampton, which is about 20 minutes from Birmingham) | 04:31 |
| mjg59 | AND YES, IT'S IN THE MIDLANDS | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | heh...hi jdub | 04:32 |
| jdub | morning Hobbsee | 04:32 |
| jadaz87 | repos down? | 04:33 |
| mjg59 | jdub: We watched Jono shave his beard. It was touching. | 04:33 |
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| jdub | mjg59: WHO was touching? | 04:33 |
| bddebian | jadaz87: Just US afaik | 04:33 |
| jadaz87 | bddebian: oh ok | 04:33 |
| mjg59 | jdub: Bastian | 04:34 |
| mjg59 | Damned Frenchmen | 04:34 |
| mjg59 | Hrm. | 04:36 |
| mjg59 | One of these lightswitches makes the room go dark, the other does nothing | 04:36 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: I think CA is also down | 04:37 |
| bddebian | Oh really? Hmm | 04:37 |
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| Burgundavia | bddebian: ca has been having issue for a while now | 04:39 |
| bddebian | Well I know that, but I didn't know their archive was having problems.. ;-P | 04:40 |
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| bddebian | Burgundavia: Uh-oh, are you from Canukistan? ;-) | 04:43 |
| Burgundavia | bddebian: well, lets just say that ubuntu.ca and my home machine resolve to the same IP address | 04:43 |
| bddebian | Doh :-) | 04:44 |
| mjg59 | Oh christ Linus is sending me bug reports | 04:47 |
| Burgundavia | mjg59: aren't you special | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | mjg59: are they good? | 04:48 |
| bddebian | Heh | 04:48 |
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| mjg59 | He's absolutely right - everything only works by accident and we're doomed to death | 04:51 |
| bddebian | Hmm, joyful outlook | 04:52 |
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| mjg59 | It's possible that I should have waited until I was sober | 04:54 |
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| Burgundavia | mjg59: nah, that makes things less fun | 04:57 |
| Burgundavia | hey js | 04:57 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, that is | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | that is? | 04:58 |
| mjg59 | Burgundavia: But dude, it's Linus | 04:58 |
| LaserJock | mjg59: maybe he was less than sober when you reported the bug so you are even :-) | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | *he reported | 04:59 |
| mjg59 | LaserJock: Well, ther were capitals... | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | uh oh | 05:01 |
| mjg59 | From Linus, not me | 05:01 |
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| jadaz87 | hmm it seems the repos errors are only for some people | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | jadaz87: uhh? | 05:53 |
| jadaz87 | Burgundavia: i tried sudo apt-get update | 05:54 |
| jadaz87 | and it times out | 05:54 |
| jadaz87 | the first couple go through though | 05:54 |
| Burgundavia | you using the US or CA repos? | 05:54 |
| jadaz87 | Burgundavia: how can i tell? | 05:55 |
| jadaz87 | Burgundavia: probably the us since i am in NJ | 05:55 |
| Burgundavia | check your sources.list | 05:55 |
| Burgundavia | move off the us repos, they have had issue for a while now | 05:55 |
| jadaz87 | Burgundavia: oh ok thanks | 05:56 |
| jadaz87 | :) | 05:56 |
| jadaz87 | interesting does the same thing | 06:00 |
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| davyd | hi all | 09:48 |
| davyd | has anyone noticed problems with NetworkManager in edgy? | 09:49 |
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| ploum | I think that we really need python-sexy in Edgy | 10:34 |
| ploum | (python bindings for libsexy) | 10:34 |
| ploum | Ok, I admit... | 10:34 |
| ploum | I need them... | 10:34 |
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| lfittl | ploum: please link to the debian rfp when you add it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates, thanks | 11:55 |
| ploum | lfittl: It was not yet listed | 11:55 |
| ploum | I plan to add the link when it will appear | 11:56 |
| lfittl | ploum: oh, k :) | 11:56 |
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| Espenfjo | Is there a changelog somwhere? A place i can see what packages have been changed, and why? Mainly in Edgy | 12:24 |
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| Gloubiboulga | Espenfjo, the edgy-changes ML | 12:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | you can browse the archives | 12:27 |
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| Espenfjo | ok | 12:27 |
| ulaas | i have a flashing apps menu | 12:30 |
| jsgotangco | that's known in edgy | 12:30 |
| ulaas | jsgotangco: thanx | 12:38 |
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| Lathiat | hrm, problems with the websites? | 02:34 |
| Spads | Lathiat: We are aware of the problem and are working on it. | 02:35 |
| Lathiat | heh your subnet isnt even in the global route table | 02:35 |
| Lathiat | awesome :) | 02:35 |
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| sivang | Spads: you the new web master? :) | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | sivang!!!! | 03:06 |
| Spads | sivang: no, not exactly | 03:06 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 04:06 |
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| bddebian | Uhm, I know some of the archive machines are having problems, but are other machines having issues today? I can't get to changelogs.u.c..?? | 04:29 |
| shenki | the datacentre is down, apparantly | 04:30 |
| bddebian | Eeks | 04:30 |
| shenki | "Spads> shenki: It's a known problem, and we're working on it." | 04:30 |
| bddebian | Thx shenki | 04:31 |
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| shenki | np | 04:31 |
| zealot | Can anyone give me an idea of why *ubuntu.com is down? I'm just curious... | 04:31 |
| shenki | heh | 04:31 |
| zealot | Did they have a powerfailure in the datacenter or something? | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | argh, what'd i miss? | 04:31 |
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| bluefoxicy | <blondie> the crappy ubuntu servers got h4x0red | 07:08 |
| bluefoxicy | confirm/deny | 07:08 |
| Spads | Deny. | 07:09 |
| === bluefoxicy swats silly user. | ||
| HiddenWolf | bluefoxicy: they got beamed up by martians | 07:09 |
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| Spads | bluefoxicy: on point of fact, our servers are now more secure than ever | 07:13 |
| bluefoxicy | what does that mean, stack smash protection everywhere? Don't say you installed openBSD. | 07:14 |
| jdub | electricity is *SO* insecure. | 07:15 |
| HiddenWolf | Spads: yeah, you can't hack em while offline. ;) | 07:15 |
| Spads | HiddenWolf: exactly :) | 07:15 |
| === Spads electrocutes jdub | ||
| HiddenWolf | jdub: it's a blackout? | 07:16 |
| thom | jdub: http://www.ipapp.com/broadband.html ;P | 07:17 |
| bluefoxicy | having the power out is not secure | 07:17 |
| bluefoxicy | it totally drops availability. | 07:17 |
| jdub | thom: especially that kind! | 07:17 |
| bluefoxicy | so what this is a case of somebody needing to set up redundant power in the server facility? | 07:18 |
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| robertj | so who was it that tripped over the plug :) | 09:24 |
| HiddenWolf | Someone without the muscle to put that big heavy plug back in. ;) | 09:25 |
| Chipzz | network problems guys? | 09:26 |
| robertj | bunch of former employees leave to form own initiatives...ISP goes down for "unknown" reasons...convenient eh? :) | 09:26 |
| Chipzz | archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.182) is unreachable | 09:26 |
| Chipzz | so is security.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138) | 09:26 |
| HiddenWolf | and launchpad.net | 09:27 |
| HiddenWolf | and markshuttleworth.com | 09:27 |
| HiddenWolf | and the forums, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu | 09:27 |
| HiddenWolf | etc. :) | 09:27 |
| Chipzz | trace seems to die somewhere in the UK (from here) | 09:27 |
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| robertj | not markshuttleworth.com! | 09:28 |
| HiddenWolf | It's terrible | 09:29 |
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| Spads | We do have staff on-site and are working on the problem | 09:30 |
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| Spads | Unfortunately, it is largely out of our control at the moment. | 09:30 |
| Chipzz | Spads: thx | 09:30 |
| Chipzz | Spads: what do you mean with "out of our control"? | 09:31 |
| Spads | Chipzz: it's not a problem in our cage | 09:31 |
| Spads | Chipzz: the outage affects many other customers, and it could take a while to meet everyone's needs | 09:31 |
| Chipzz | Spads: ok :) | 09:32 |
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| Chipzz | Spads: so what is the staff doing on-site if it's a problem with the hosting company? ;) | 09:33 |
| HiddenWolf | Spads: is it the isp? | 09:33 |
| zul | maybe trying to help | 09:33 |
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| Chipzz | zul: I work for a company that does hosting in 4 datacenters; I think they would rather be in the way than help | 09:34 |
| Spads | I haven't spoken to them in a few hours, but I would guess that there's a lot of waiting involved. When things do come back on-line, there will definitely be a scramble to shepherd things back to normal. | 09:35 |
| ozamosi | Is there any kind of link that contains info from the hosting company or something like that, that I can show the people that says "ubuntu's been hacked!" | 09:35 |
| Spads | ozamosi: alas, no. I'd love one myself. | 09:36 |
| zul | company or something like that, that I can show the people | 09:36 |
| zul | whoops | 09:36 |
| Spads | haha | 09:37 |
| Spads | ooh | 09:37 |
| Spads | strike a light... | 09:37 |
| Chipzz | Spads: is it a problem with power or with the network link? | 09:37 |
| Spads | our systems are beginning to appear again. Please be gentle, as they're likely to be hammered for a little while. | 09:38 |
| HiddenWolf | ozamosi: there is a notice upon entering #ubuntu that explains that the servers are out. | 09:38 |
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| Spads | Chipzz: as jdub hinted at, it was a catastrophic power failure in our DC building. | 10:37 |
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| Qwell | Are you guys aware of any (unreported?) bugs relating to the partition tool hanging during install on a Niagara? | 10:50 |
| Qwell | It happens literally every time... | 10:51 |
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