[01:33] <LaserJock> hi Burgundavia 
[01:34] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: did you apply that typo patch to the Packaging Guide?
[01:35] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: I applied two last night, that Kamping_Kaiser told me about, but nothing from the mailing list
[01:35] <LaserJock> k
[01:35] <LaserJock> thanks
[04:32] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: oh, just ran across karl's patch. You can apply it
[04:34] <LaserJock> yeah
[04:34] <LaserJock> I'm doing massive packaging guide work
[05:00] <nixternal> jsgotangco: @##@# i have been waiting for you!!!
[05:00] <nixternal> hiya by the way ;)
[05:00] <LaserJock> wow
[05:00] <jsgotangco> really?
[05:00] <nixternal> hehe
[05:00] <LaserJock> that's quite the "hello, how are you?"
[05:00] <nixternal> ya, the philippines page, what are you using for cms?
[05:00] <jsgotangco> drupal
[05:01] <nixternal> sweet jesus
[05:01] <nixternal> i need that theme
[05:01] <nixternal> for ubuntu chicago
[05:01] <jsgotangco> i just ripped it from ubuntu-au
[05:01] <LaserJock> hehe
[05:01] <nixternal> interesting
[05:01] <jsgotangco> im actually in my hometown connected via UMTS
[05:01] <nixternal> hometown?
[05:01] <nixternal> how many do you have?
[05:01] <jsgotangco> just down south
[05:02] <nixternal> ya, you told me about that
[05:02] <jsgotangco> no i meant the place i grew up
[05:02] <jsgotangco> we still have our house here but no telephone at the moment
[05:02] <jsgotangco> and ive been wanting to try out the card i bought
[05:03] <jsgotangco> this will kill my phone bill though
[05:03] <Burgundavia> nixternal: which page?
[05:04] <nixternal> page for?
[05:05] <nixternal> http://www.ubuntu-ph.org/
[05:05] <nixternal> that is the theme i want to put on http://chi.ubuntu-us.org
[05:05] <nixternal> im going to use drupal for it
[05:06] <jsgotangco> yeah just removing the pain of creating a site makes drupal a very nice choice
[05:06] <nixternal> indeed
[05:07] <nixternal> i just need that theme...who over at au has it?
[05:07] <jsgotangco> where are you hosted
[05:07] <Burgundavia> for ubuntu.ca, I figured we just didn't have enough need for anything heavier than static pages
[05:08] <nixternal> probably the same here as well Burgundavia, but i rather start off with a cms, plus drupal gives you a small forums module as well as a small blog module
[05:09] <nixternal> im hosted via Ubuntu
[05:09] <nixternal> all ih ave is mad ftp access
[05:09] <nixternal> it is mighty elite i tell ya
[05:09] <jsgotangco> via ubuntu?
[05:09] <nixternal> LoCo Hosting they do
[05:09] <jsgotangco> oh we separated from that for quite a while already
[05:10] <jsgotangco> we now use a dedicatged server along with some other teams
[05:10] <nixternal> ahhh
[05:10] <LaserJock> hmm, my packaging guide initial edgy work ends up as a 73K diff
[05:10] <jsgotangco> br, id, in, au, and ph are on 1 server
[05:11] <nixternal> ahh, so that is how you stole it from them ;)
[05:11] <nixternal> well, it is FOSS, so
[05:11] <nixternal> ;)
[05:11] <jsgotangco> they probably got it from the fridge as well since its running drupal
[05:11] <jsgotangco> and jeff's in charge of fridge so...
[05:11] <nixternal> good luck getting in touch with the jdub
[05:12] <nixternal> at least he don't answer me
[05:12] <LaserJock> well, he left Canonical so I think that's affected fridge
[05:12] <Burgundavia> he is an insanely busy person
[05:12] <jsgotangco> hey he's not like that in person
[05:12] <nixternal> i know he is insanely busy, but...
[05:13] <jsgotangco> lca2007 is greatly taking shape too
[05:13] <jsgotangco> brb
[05:18] <robitaille> jdub left canonical?  I didn't know that;  that may  explains the lack of fridge updates...
[05:18] <nixternal> hehe
[05:18] <jsgotangco> well up to this month
[05:18] <nixternal> he has either left, or leaves at the end of this month
[05:19] <nixternal> moinmoin is a pain to setup and config
[05:19] <jsgotangco> kinisson also resigned but moving to a new company
[05:19] <LaserJock> really?
[05:19] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:19] <robitaille> you stay long enough around a project, and you see your share of people coming and going...
[05:19] <LaserJock> nixternal: it seems easier than mediawiki for me
[05:20] <LaserJock> yeah
[05:20] <nixternal> i have it installed, however i can't change the theme
[05:20] <nixternal> i have done everything i think
[05:20] <LaserJock> oh, that's pretty easy
[05:20] <Burgundavia> robitaille: he leaves at the end of the month
[05:21] <nixternal> LaserJock: teach me ol' wise one
[05:21] <nixternal> as it seems nobody in moinmoin is alive
[05:21] <LaserJock> and JaneW left but we got Mr. JaneW 
[05:22] <robitaille> and before daniels, mako, thom...quite a few names since last year
[05:23] <Burgundavia> rob wier, a few others
[05:23] <Burgundavia> it is expecting that you are going to loose people
[05:23] <LaserJock> nixternal: just a sec, I can't find the right page. I know in general
[05:23] <jsgotangco> i think even daf left
[05:23] <Burgundavia> make and jdub may come back
[05:24] <Burgundavia> yep, he went to collabra
[05:24] <robitaille> can I quit my job of dealing with reportbug reports :)
[05:24] <Burgundavia> robitaille: we can just let them silently drop
[05:24] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:25] <robitaille> I now simply reply to them:   use LP.  I don't even bother filing new reports myself
[05:25] <robitaille> they spend the time filing a report; I would feel bad simply ignoring them
[05:25] <Burgundavia> yep
[05:26] <Burgundavia> canonical needs another QA person
[05:26] <jsgotangco> hmm why is karma jumping so high lately
[05:26] <Burgundavia> I think they just rejigged everything
[05:27] <robitaille> some of these bug reports are interesting.  A guy with a @hp.com address reporting a memory leak in a library
[05:28] <Burgundavia> hp has been big into debian for awhile now
[05:29] <nixternal> Fujitsu: ping?
[05:30] <Burgundavia> robitaille: do you have any idea how to subscribe to an entire products bugs?
[05:30] <LaserJock> nixternal: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnThemes#head-0f9b4561b6bd896ec150c626df63d39d77be3973
[05:31] <robitaille> Burgundavia, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libnss-db/+subscribe
[05:31] <robitaille> for an example.
[05:31] <nixternal> ya LaserJock, i have done all that
[05:31] <nixternal> im trying something new now
[05:32] <robitaille> Burgundavia,  but I have never done it myself
[05:32] <LaserJock> nixternal: it didn't work?
[05:32] <nixternal> nope...
[05:32] <nixternal> im sure i messed something up..trying something new now
[05:32] <LaserJock> odd, I've done it like 3 or 4 times
[05:33] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: I don't know about products but for packages I use Intial Bug Contacts
[05:33] <Burgundavia> well, I need products
[05:33] <Burgundavia> https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website
[05:35] <LaserJock> I don't see anything there
[05:36] <LaserJock> other than perhaps https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-website
[05:47] <LaserJock> bombs away!!
[05:48] <jsgotangco> hmm ive been liking livejournal lately
[05:52] <LaserJock> and I spam ubuntu-doc
[05:53] <jsgotangco> hmm
[05:53] <jsgotangco> i might get a new phone later
[05:53] <LaserJock> what?
[05:54] <LaserJock> you don't like that phone, I mean camera, I mean phone ?
[05:54] <jsgotangco> no its already 7 months old
[05:54] <jsgotangco> lol
[05:54] <LaserJock> yeah, you need one with a can/bottle opener
[05:54] <jsgotangco> im thinking of getting one with a 3.2MP lens
[05:55] <jsgotangco> maybe an E61 would be nice since it also has WLAN
[05:57] <jsgotangco> are you aware you could also send pictures and sound using MMS
[05:57] <LaserJock> yeah, I think I read that somewhere
[05:57] <LaserJock> weird
[05:58] <LaserJock> I'm generally fairly aware that technologies exist, I just don't use them
[05:58] <LaserJock> I don't want to pay for them
[05:58] <jsgotangco> its pretty cheap here
[05:58] <jsgotangco> and it gets easily abused
[05:59] <jsgotangco> a lot of small clips with compromising actions have been passing randomly
[06:00] <LaserJock> I only pay for the basic/cheapest service I could find
[06:00] <Burgundavia> hmm, would you believe I don't and have never owned a cell phone?
[06:00] <LaserJock> I only have one because I'm married
[06:00] <LaserJock> and we have 1 car
[06:01] <Burgundavia> ah, another useless thing I don't have
[06:01] <jsgotangco> because you're always online
[06:01] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: a car?
[06:01] <jsgotangco> my 4 year old kid has a kiddie cellphone
[06:01] <Burgundavia> yep
[06:01] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: that's terrible ;-)
[06:01] <jsgotangco> she doesn't use it
[06:01] <Burgundavia> but being online has nothing todo with not having a car
[06:02] <jsgotangco> it only has 3 buttons
[06:02] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: we'd be sunk without a car
[06:02] <jsgotangco> HOME MOM DAD
[06:02] <LaserJock> cool
[06:02] <LaserJock> I can understand that
[06:02] <Burgundavia> it is too hard to use and too expensive
[06:03] <Burgundavia> takes too much of my time
[06:03] <LaserJock> yeah, like this silly Ubuntu stuff
[06:03] <LaserJock> too expensive
[06:03] <LaserJock> too hard
[06:03] <Burgundavia> that is reason I use ubuntu
[06:03] <LaserJock> too time hungry
[06:04] <Burgundavia> it passes those "too" tests
[06:04] <LaserJock> too expensive because I want to buy build machines
[06:04] <LaserJock> too hard to give up
[06:05] <jsgotangco> hey i have a 1GB microSD in my phone hehehe
[06:05] <LaserJock> shesh
[06:05] <LaserJock> I had no idea I had 4 patches on the ML that I hadn't applied
[06:05] <jsgotangco> i wish my wristwatch could be used to store an ISO
[06:06] <LaserJock> naughty, naughty, LaserJock 
[06:08] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: would you consider adding some non-volatile memory in your body if the technology comes heh
[06:08] <LaserJock> probably not "in"
[06:08] <LaserJock> anybody know Cyanescent from the art team?
[06:09] <LaserJock> he's #1 in karma
[06:09] <LaserJock> all specs
[06:13] <jsgotangco> im out have a nice sunday
[06:13] <LaserJock> cya jsgotangco 
[06:26] <Burgundavia> ok, ugh, /support/faq on the website is sadly out of date
[06:27] <LaserJock> is there a website list yet?
[06:29] <Burgundavia> not currently
[06:29] <Burgundavia> we need to get these various pieces from jdub, who is really bad at responding to requests
[06:47] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: thoughts on /support/faq and the help specific things there?
[07:33] <nixternal> karma system broken?
[07:33] <nixternal> Karma:  85851
[07:34] <nixternal> umm..cuz i am pretty much idlin' for that
[07:35] <robitaille> nixternal,  we all got major karma increases recently
[07:35] <nixternal> hehe
[07:35] <nixternal> makes me look special
[07:35] <nixternal> i went from 20k to 85k
[07:36] <robitaille> I think I'm in the 260,000s
[07:36] <robitaille> top guy on LP is a 1.4 millions
[07:41] <nixternal> jeesh
[07:42] <Burgundavia> nixternal: so am I. Karma does slowly decrease
[07:42] <nixternal> that is the first time i looked at my page in a while and i noticed it
[07:42] <Burgundavia> I really need to write a blog post about how to and not to announce your new distro
[07:43] <nixternal> let me read the announcement you are referring to
[07:45] <Burgundavia> top of lxer
[07:45] <Burgundavia> just a link to sectoo.org, which has nothing to download
[07:45] <nixternal> ahh ya
[07:45] <Burgundavia> if you announce a new linux distro, you had better have something to download
[07:46] <Burgundavia> it was one of the reasons Ubuntu did so well, really early on
[07:46] <nixternal> i love the google ads
[07:46] <Burgundavia> very classly, no?\
[07:47] <nixternal> i am putting in a spec that www.ubuntu.com utilize google ads to generate money for keggers
[07:47] <nixternal> these people need to realise...75%+ i would say of the people who use linux, are never going to click on a an ad in their life
[07:55] <nixternal> http://static.flickr.com/63/195720383_b8f2939284.jpg?v=0
[07:55] <nixternal> tornado that came through tonight
[07:55] <nixternal> you can barely see the little guy
[07:56] <nixternal> http://static.flickr.com/76/195720358_9d8316607a_o.jpg
[07:56] <nixternal> all the hail on one of the cars
[07:56] <nixternal> http://www.flickr.com/photos/nixternal/
[07:58] <Burgundavia> interesting
[07:58] <Burgundavia> you people have screwed up weather
[07:59] <nixternal> haha
[07:59] <nixternal> that is chicago for you
[07:59] <nixternal> we heard the sirens in the town over..ours never went off
[07:59] <nixternal> it dropped from 81f to 56f in 15 minutes
[07:59] <nixternal> it was weird
[08:37] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: sorry, was AFK. The support/faq seems a bit scattered to me
[08:37] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: no worries. Can you look at it now?
[08:38] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: well I think it's a little sad that help.ubuntu.com is the very last line
[08:38] <Burgundavia> hmm
[08:38] <Burgundavia> good point
[08:39] <Burgundavia> think getting help should be the second topic?
[08:39] <Burgundavia> that would put it on the first page for most people
[08:39] <LaserJock> perhaps
[08:39] <LaserJock> it should be fairly high, I'd think
[08:40] <LaserJock> I think getting rid of some of the Q&A might be nice
[08:40] <LaserJock> it's a bit hard to scan the TOC
[08:41] <Burgundavia> hmm, indeed
[08:42] <LaserJock> hmm, do you want to have important items first?
[08:43] <Burgundavia> it could use that
[08:43] <Burgundavia> I just did a first pass, to get needed information in
[08:43] <LaserJock> like I would think, Shipit and How to get Ubuntu? would be hit first before "What do the funny names mean?"
[08:43] <LaserJock> anyway, I gotta go
[08:44] <LaserJock> that could be a really cool page
[08:44] <LaserJock> I like it
[08:44] <LaserJock> but seems like it could  use a bit of help
[10:05] <Fujitsu> nixternal, pong.
[10:08] <Fujitsu> nixternal, pong.
[01:12] <mpt__> "The data exchange section describes methods of exchanging data." -- MSDN
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[01:20] <Fujitsu> Hahhaha
[01:40] <mpt__> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHelp/PageStructure
[05:42] <nixternal> so who broke ubuntu.com
[06:12] <theCore> is there any plan to improve the presentation of the docs?
[08:26] <nixternal> it is definately, you can hear a pin drop, quiet around here
[09:57] <theCore> nixternal: a quiet channel, mean productive peoples ;)
[09:59] <theCore> 1 hour for a reply, not bad ;)
[10:12] <nixternal> lol
[10:18] <phanatic> evening
[10:19] <phanatic> i just wanted to ask how often are the docs regenerated from rosetta?
[10:26] <jjesse> phanatic: not very
[10:28] <phanatic> jjesse: is it possible to ask for it when say we've completed a fair amount of translations?
[10:29] <nixternal> anyone know where i can find the meeting minutes or aganda for the Ubuntu Development Team meeting?
[10:30] <jjesse> phanatic: i don't know really how it works, but i would ask mdke as he is more of an expert on that then me
[10:30] <jjesse> nixternal: just at the meeting log 
[10:30] <nixternal> arg..figures ;)
[10:31] <nixternal> im trying to finish up the UWN and get it out
[10:32] <phanatic> jjesse: thanks, i'll poke mdke later then...
[10:39] <jjesse> phanatic: np
[11:34] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue7     READY FOR REVIEW - READY FOR RELEASE
[11:34] <nixternal> someone please go through and do a quick proofread
[11:34] <nixternal> lol
[11:34] <nixternal> it is probably pretty crude crimsun
[11:35] <crimsun> oh we can fix that in an hour :-)
[11:35] <nixternal> i did a spell check on it, thats about it
[11:35] <crimsun> July, 15 - 21 2006  <-- strange placement of comma
[11:35] <nixternal> not strange, but retarded
[11:36] <crimsun> well I try not to offend the authors right off
[11:36] <nixternal> crimsun: if you would please, just make the changes as you go through it
[11:36] <crimsun> sure
[11:36] <nixternal> i can't be offended, so it doesn't matter ;)
[11:36] <crimsun> I have to become acclimated to kde, so this will take a bit
[11:36] <nixternal> lol
[11:36] <nixternal> im gonna go eat some sketti
[11:36] <crimsun> I love this url catcher
[11:36] <nixternal> i shall return
[11:37] <nixternal> klipper?
[11:37] <crimsun> yeah
[11:37] <nixternal> good stuff once you tame it
[11:37] <nixternal> bbiaf
[12:08] <crimsun> edited.