=== zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:33] hi Burgundavia [01:34] Burgundavia: did you apply that typo patch to the Packaging Guide? [01:35] LaserJock: I applied two last night, that Kamping_Kaiser told me about, but nothing from the mailing list [01:35] k [01:35] thanks === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Taim [n=taim@27.nwkn2.xdsl.nauticom.net] has joined #Ubuntu-Doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:32] LaserJock: oh, just ran across karl's patch. You can apply it [04:34] yeah [04:34] I'm doing massive packaging guide work === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:00] jsgotangco: @##@# i have been waiting for you!!! [05:00] hiya by the way ;) [05:00] wow [05:00] really? [05:00] hehe === jsgotangco is far far away at the moment [05:00] that's quite the "hello, how are you?" [05:00] ya, the philippines page, what are you using for cms? [05:00] drupal [05:01] sweet jesus [05:01] i need that theme [05:01] for ubuntu chicago [05:01] i just ripped it from ubuntu-au [05:01] hehe [05:01] interesting [05:01] im actually in my hometown connected via UMTS [05:01] hometown? [05:01] how many do you have? [05:01] just down south [05:02] ya, you told me about that [05:02] no i meant the place i grew up [05:02] we still have our house here but no telephone at the moment [05:02] and ive been wanting to try out the card i bought [05:03] this will kill my phone bill though [05:03] nixternal: which page? [05:04] page for? [05:05] http://www.ubuntu-ph.org/ [05:05] that is the theme i want to put on http://chi.ubuntu-us.org [05:05] im going to use drupal for it [05:06] yeah just removing the pain of creating a site makes drupal a very nice choice [05:06] indeed [05:07] i just need that theme...who over at au has it? [05:07] where are you hosted [05:07] for ubuntu.ca, I figured we just didn't have enough need for anything heavier than static pages [05:08] probably the same here as well Burgundavia, but i rather start off with a cms, plus drupal gives you a small forums module as well as a small blog module [05:09] im hosted via Ubuntu [05:09] all ih ave is mad ftp access [05:09] it is mighty elite i tell ya [05:09] via ubuntu? [05:09] LoCo Hosting they do [05:09] oh we separated from that for quite a while already [05:10] we now use a dedicatged server along with some other teams [05:10] ahhh [05:10] hmm, my packaging guide initial edgy work ends up as a 73K diff [05:10] br, id, in, au, and ph are on 1 server [05:11] ahh, so that is how you stole it from them ;) [05:11] well, it is FOSS, so [05:11] ;) [05:11] they probably got it from the fridge as well since its running drupal [05:11] and jeff's in charge of fridge so... [05:11] good luck getting in touch with the jdub [05:12] at least he don't answer me [05:12] well, he left Canonical so I think that's affected fridge [05:12] he is an insanely busy person [05:12] hey he's not like that in person [05:12] i know he is insanely busy, but... [05:13] lca2007 is greatly taking shape too [05:13] brb === mpt [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:18] jdub left canonical? I didn't know that; that may explains the lack of fridge updates... [05:18] hehe [05:18] well up to this month [05:18] he has either left, or leaves at the end of this month [05:19] moinmoin is a pain to setup and config [05:19] kinisson also resigned but moving to a new company [05:19] really? [05:19] yeah [05:19] you stay long enough around a project, and you see your share of people coming and going... [05:19] nixternal: it seems easier than mediawiki for me [05:20] yeah [05:20] i have it installed, however i can't change the theme [05:20] i have done everything i think [05:20] oh, that's pretty easy [05:20] robitaille: he leaves at the end of the month [05:21] LaserJock: teach me ol' wise one [05:21] as it seems nobody in moinmoin is alive [05:21] and JaneW left but we got Mr. JaneW [05:22] and before daniels, mako, thom...quite a few names since last year [05:23] rob wier, a few others [05:23] it is expecting that you are going to loose people [05:23] nixternal: just a sec, I can't find the right page. I know in general [05:23] i think even daf left [05:23] make and jdub may come back [05:24] yep, he went to collabra [05:24] can I quit my job of dealing with reportbug reports :) [05:24] robitaille: we can just let them silently drop [05:24] yeah [05:25] I now simply reply to them: use LP. I don't even bother filing new reports myself [05:25] they spend the time filing a report; I would feel bad simply ignoring them [05:25] yep [05:26] canonical needs another QA person [05:26] hmm why is karma jumping so high lately [05:26] I think they just rejigged everything [05:27] some of these bug reports are interesting. A guy with a @hp.com address reporting a memory leak in a library [05:28] hp has been big into debian for awhile now [05:29] Fujitsu: ping? [05:30] robitaille: do you have any idea how to subscribe to an entire products bugs? [05:30] nixternal: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnThemes#head-0f9b4561b6bd896ec150c626df63d39d77be3973 [05:31] Burgundavia, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libnss-db/+subscribe [05:31] for an example. [05:31] ya LaserJock, i have done all that [05:31] im trying something new now [05:32] Burgundavia, but I have never done it myself === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:32] nixternal: it didn't work? [05:32] nope... [05:32] im sure i messed something up..trying something new now [05:32] odd, I've done it like 3 or 4 times [05:33] Burgundavia: I don't know about products but for packages I use Intial Bug Contacts [05:33] well, I need products [05:33] https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website [05:35] I don't see anything there [05:36] other than perhaps https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-website === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:47] bombs away!! [05:48] hmm ive been liking livejournal lately [05:52] and I spam ubuntu-doc [05:53] hmm [05:53] i might get a new phone later [05:53] what? [05:54] you don't like that phone, I mean camera, I mean phone ? [05:54] no its already 7 months old [05:54] lol [05:54] yeah, you need one with a can/bottle opener [05:54] im thinking of getting one with a 3.2MP lens [05:55] maybe an E61 would be nice since it also has WLAN === LaserJock will have to try this SMS thing out some time [05:57] are you aware you could also send pictures and sound using MMS [05:57] yeah, I think I read that somewhere [05:57] weird [05:58] I'm generally fairly aware that technologies exist, I just don't use them [05:58] I don't want to pay for them === LaserJock is a cheapskate [05:58] its pretty cheap here [05:58] and it gets easily abused [05:59] a lot of small clips with compromising actions have been passing randomly [06:00] I only pay for the basic/cheapest service I could find [06:00] hmm, would you believe I don't and have never owned a cell phone? [06:00] I only have one because I'm married [06:00] and we have 1 car [06:01] ah, another useless thing I don't have [06:01] because you're always online [06:01] Burgundavia: a car? [06:01] my 4 year old kid has a kiddie cellphone [06:01] yep [06:01] jsgotangco: that's terrible ;-) [06:01] she doesn't use it [06:01] but being online has nothing todo with not having a car [06:02] it only has 3 buttons [06:02] Burgundavia: we'd be sunk without a car [06:02] HOME MOM DAD [06:02] cool === Burgundavia secretly hates technology [06:02] I can understand that [06:02] it is too hard to use and too expensive [06:03] takes too much of my time [06:03] yeah, like this silly Ubuntu stuff [06:03] too expensive [06:03] too hard [06:03] that is reason I use ubuntu [06:03] too time hungry [06:04] it passes those "too" tests [06:04] too expensive because I want to buy build machines === jsgotangco thinks technology is great, but you have to look into the practicality of it instead of being overwhelmed by features [06:04] too hard to give up [06:05] hey i have a 1GB microSD in my phone hehehe [06:05] shesh [06:05] I had no idea I had 4 patches on the ML that I hadn't applied [06:05] i wish my wristwatch could be used to store an ISO [06:06] naughty, naughty, LaserJock [06:08] LaserJock: would you consider adding some non-volatile memory in your body if the technology comes heh [06:08] probably not "in" [06:08] anybody know Cyanescent from the art team? [06:09] he's #1 in karma [06:09] all specs [06:13] im out have a nice sunday [06:13] cya jsgotangco [06:26] ok, ugh, /support/faq on the website is sadly out of date [06:27] is there a website list yet? [06:29] not currently [06:29] we need to get these various pieces from jdub, who is really bad at responding to requests [06:47] LaserJock: thoughts on /support/faq and the help specific things there? === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:33] karma system broken? [07:33] Karma: 85851 [07:34] umm..cuz i am pretty much idlin' for that [07:35] nixternal, we all got major karma increases recently [07:35] hehe [07:35] makes me look special [07:35] i went from 20k to 85k [07:36] I think I'm in the 260,000s [07:36] top guy on LP is a 1.4 millions [07:41] jeesh [07:42] nixternal: so am I. Karma does slowly decrease [07:42] that is the first time i looked at my page in a while and i noticed it [07:42] I really need to write a blog post about how to and not to announce your new distro [07:43] let me read the announcement you are referring to === baks17 [n=barkha@gnu-india/supporter/barkha] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:45] top of lxer [07:45] just a link to sectoo.org, which has nothing to download [07:45] ahh ya [07:45] if you announce a new linux distro, you had better have something to download [07:46] it was one of the reasons Ubuntu did so well, really early on [07:46] i love the google ads [07:46] very classly, no?\ === Burgundavia goes into the business of creating fake linux distros just to get the google ad revenue [07:47] i am putting in a spec that www.ubuntu.com utilize google ads to generate money for keggers [07:47] these people need to realise...75%+ i would say of the people who use linux, are never going to click on a an ad in their life === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:55] http://static.flickr.com/63/195720383_b8f2939284.jpg?v=0 [07:55] tornado that came through tonight [07:55] you can barely see the little guy [07:56] http://static.flickr.com/76/195720358_9d8316607a_o.jpg [07:56] all the hail on one of the cars [07:56] http://www.flickr.com/photos/nixternal/ [07:58] interesting [07:58] you people have screwed up weather [07:59] haha [07:59] that is chicago for you [07:59] we heard the sirens in the town over..ours never went off [07:59] it dropped from 81f to 56f in 15 minutes [07:59] it was weird === mpt_ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:37] Burgundavia: sorry, was AFK. The support/faq seems a bit scattered to me [08:37] LaserJock: no worries. Can you look at it now? [08:38] Burgundavia: well I think it's a little sad that help.ubuntu.com is the very last line [08:38] hmm [08:38] good point [08:39] think getting help should be the second topic? [08:39] that would put it on the first page for most people [08:39] perhaps [08:39] it should be fairly high, I'd think [08:40] I think getting rid of some of the Q&A might be nice [08:40] it's a bit hard to scan the TOC [08:41] hmm, indeed [08:42] hmm, do you want to have important items first? [08:43] it could use that [08:43] I just did a first pass, to get needed information in [08:43] like I would think, Shipit and How to get Ubuntu? would be hit first before "What do the funny names mean?" [08:43] anyway, I gotta go [08:44] that could be a really cool page [08:44] I like it [08:44] but seems like it could use a bit of help === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:05] nixternal, pong. === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:08] nixternal, pong. === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:12] "The data exchange section describes methods of exchanging data." -- MSDN [01:19] rofl [01:20] Hahhaha === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-62-245-160-53.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHelp/PageStructure === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203.118.156.188] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === baks17 [n=barkha@gnu-india/supporter/barkha] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === baks17 [n=barkha@gnu-india/supporter/barkha] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === baks247 [n=barkha@59.182.45.72] has joined #ubuntu-doc === baks247 is now known as baks17 [05:42] so who broke ubuntu.com === theCore [n=alex@modemcable024.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:12] is there any plan to improve the presentation of the docs? === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [i=user@69-87-141-24.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === baks17 [n=barkha@gnu-india/supporter/barkha] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:26] it is definately, you can hear a pin drop, quiet around here === mdke_ [n=matt@unaffiliated/matt/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Plug [n=crb@itpartners.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === baks17 [n=barkha@gnu-india/supporter/barkha] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] [09:57] nixternal: a quiet channel, mean productive peoples ;) [09:59] 1 hour for a reply, not bad ;) [10:12] lol === mdke [n=matt@unaffiliated/matt/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu-doc === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:18] evening [10:19] i just wanted to ask how often are the docs regenerated from rosetta? [10:26] phanatic: not very === jjesse [i=user@69-87-141-24.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:28] jjesse: is it possible to ask for it when say we've completed a fair amount of translations? [10:29] anyone know where i can find the meeting minutes or aganda for the Ubuntu Development Team meeting? [10:30] phanatic: i don't know really how it works, but i would ask mdke as he is more of an expert on that then me [10:30] nixternal: just at the meeting log [10:30] arg..figures ;) [10:31] im trying to finish up the UWN and get it out [10:32] jjesse: thanks, i'll poke mdke later then... [10:39] phanatic: np [11:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue7 READY FOR REVIEW - READY FOR RELEASE === crimsun gets out his red pen [11:34] someone please go through and do a quick proofread [11:34] lol [11:34] it is probably pretty crude crimsun [11:35] oh we can fix that in an hour :-) [11:35] i did a spell check on it, thats about it [11:35] July, 15 - 21 2006 <-- strange placement of comma [11:35] not strange, but retarded [11:36] well I try not to offend the authors right off [11:36] crimsun: if you would please, just make the changes as you go through it [11:36] sure [11:36] i can't be offended, so it doesn't matter ;) [11:36] I have to become acclimated to kde, so this will take a bit [11:36] lol [11:36] im gonna go eat some sketti [11:36] I love this url catcher [11:36] i shall return [11:37] klipper? [11:37] yeah [11:37] good stuff once you tame it [11:37] bbiaf [12:08] edited.