[12:18] hi all [12:18] hi. === HorD [n=HorD@host253.200-45-145.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:43] Heya Riddell [12:45] so how was lugradio Riddell? [12:46] good crack [12:46] lots of happy kubuntu users [12:47] sweet [12:47] or, shall i say rockin' ? [12:47] ;) [12:50] Riddell: i tried to release UWN 7, but it bounced back waiting for approval..so if you have the chance/time, take a looksy..thank you sir [12:52] nixternal: I can't approve stuff on that list, I can proofread thoug [12:52] though [12:52] ahh ok..crimsun already worked his magic on that part [12:53] jdub's the only one who can approve that list [12:53] alrighty then...i shall wait for the jdub === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.37.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:21] btw, i still do not have kubuntu.org email...not really all that important, but i would like to have an "official" looking email address for business cards, especiall when advocating via the chicago team, and everywhere else ;) [01:28] hey Riddell [01:29] fine to see you, since we have a few issues with hobbsee concerning kopete [01:31] nixternal: are they supposed to work ? [01:31] I never tried those :) === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] ya Tonio_, they are supposed to forward to your email address, at least I have been told so far.. [01:55] nixternal: just tested and that works for me at least [01:56] ya, i get a 550 error as it sends it back saying i don't exist yet [01:57] it would be nice to get someting like rich.johnson@kubuntu.org or rich.johnson@ubuntu.com...that way there when i try to advocate to a corporate atmosphere, they don't see 'Nixternal' [01:58] strange.... [01:58] I don't know who manages this [02:00] i am thinking that either heno or jdub maybe [02:12] Riddell: hi [02:13] Riddell: I have an idea for edgy (and may be an update for dapper) : would it be possible to include a simple freedos image in the grub boot menu. This is pretty useful for bios or firmware updates [02:15] I did this on my computer because I needed to update the bios of my motherboard... a simple freedos image on my hard drive, an entry in the grub menu.lst and I can boot on dos with the need of a floppy or a new partition :) [02:15] Just an idea... [02:18] This trick is already used for the memory test... [02:20] that can make sense indeed === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:47] morning all [03:51] mornin' Hobbsee [03:51] hi nixternal [03:52] you have come to the deadlands..irc has been very very quiet tonight/today/this morning ;) [03:53] hehe [03:53] nixternal: you can always triage bugs. [03:53] there are some *really* idiotic ones in malone [03:53] i have been workin' on some docs and ubuntu chicago stuff [03:54] those are my favorite ones [03:58] Hobbsee: say, do you use a Compose key? [03:59] crimsun: a what? [03:59] something to allow you to type accented characters, among others [04:00] oh. no, not that i know of [04:00] I haven't figured out the magic pixie dust necessary to get it working in Edgy's KDE [04:02] meaning: I set a Compose key in K> System Settings> Regional & Accessibility> Keyboard Layout> Xkb Options> Compose Key Position, but it seems to do nothing [04:02] hehe [04:02] ah [04:02] 'e [04:03] (incorrect) === Hobbsee subscribes to all kdelibs bugs as well [04:08] morning all [04:08] hi freeflying [04:08] hi. [04:08] hey Hobbsee crimsun [04:10] hey cool, someone triaged kdelibs! [04:10] they did one heck of a good job! === Hobbsee wonders if it was nixternal. [04:12] oh man, what did i do now? [04:13] the only thing i triaged today was an ice cream cone that i squeezed to hard and cracked [04:13] nixternal: hehe === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:13] hi lnxkde [04:13] hi :) [04:14] how are you? [04:14] Hobbsee : :D I am updating to edgy right now :) [04:16] lnxkde: yay :) [04:17] :) [04:17] u using edgy right? [04:17] lnxkde: right now, i'm emailing D-Link, as harris tech, the computer company i usually buy things from, wont tell me which revision of card they're selling, ie, which chipset. [04:17] yep [04:17] wpa and network manager are screwed on it, so's mesa [04:18] wpa? [04:18] wireless? [04:19] yes === Hobbsee emails harris tech - do you do price matching, or should i go somewhere else? [04:19] stores normally dont know nothing about the real specs other than the ones on the box [04:19] yeah true.... [04:19] normally I get this is only for windows.... and MAC [04:20] i would have thought they could tell me the revision or something, by opening it [04:20] it's only listed on the card [04:21] I hate when I get crapy hardware because I didnt know what chipset really is in the board [04:22] I have a HP m7170n media center pc [04:22] and the tv tuner model is in a compatibility list of working hardware for linux [04:22] 'but [04:22] my model has a little little change... [04:22] and that makes it Windows only for the moment :( [04:23] true [04:23] even the lspci output list a compatible card [04:23] but it is not... === Hobbsee might go down there - when uni starts again. === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:31] Hobbsee : what year of uni are you in? === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:41] lnxkde: first year [04:48] u 18 year old? [04:51] lnxkde: yes [04:52] I am 19 I am going to 3 year now [04:52] I will be 20 next month [04:52] cool :) [04:54] moins Hobbsee ;) [04:54] hi imbrandon [04:57] 10pm and its still 28 out side, /me turns up the AC [04:57] lol in puerto rico is really hot this mornig it was at 93 [04:57] speaking of puerto rico, anyone watching ms. universe? [04:58] she just won it [04:58] its was like 102f here today durring the sday [04:58] Puerto Rico won [04:58] nixternal: not i [04:58] yup [04:59] 28...nice... :) [05:00] :) [05:00] Hobbsee: not at 10pm lol [05:00] well... === Hobbsee notes that there was a lack of proof reading with the UWS - i just fixed a botched hyperlink. [05:13] far from a lack of..that slipped through, otherwise there were a few members who went through it, one is a professor ;) [05:15] UWS ? [05:15] UWN [05:15] ;) [05:15] oh yea [05:18] oh yeah [05:19] UWS is a uni, that's right [05:19] nixternal: heh, i just noticed this malformed http//www.foo.blah link, and thought hmmm...that's not shown as hyperlinked, what's wrong there.. === Hobbsee requests yet another sync :) [05:20] so nice that i dont have to get others to approve these now === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:24] Hobbsee: :-) [05:24] bddebian: do you know in general what lists of X packages are changing? like, in the depends? [05:25] Hobbsee: Have an example? [05:26] bddebian: xbvl, simgear [05:28] What's wrong with xbvl? [05:29] Is it trying to use GLw libs? [05:34] Ah yes, xbvl tries to link -lGLw. Won't happen. Apparently we dropped the GLw libs in Edgy for some licensing issue. I had the same issue with grass, so I had to disable building with glw (it was a configure flag --with-glw that I had to remove) [05:40] bddebian: more that i just didnt know what deps to change, so left it alone. [05:41] The deps are fine, you need to see if you can disable glw bindings in configure [05:41] right [05:45] Hmm, no easy way in xbvl. You would have to try something like --disable-glw [05:46] mmm ok [06:00] Gotta head to bed, good luck Hobbsee :-) [06:00] bddebian: thanks :P === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] bug 53795 [06:11] Malone bug 53795 in libsdl1.2 "libsdl1.2-dev won't install in edgy" [Untriaged,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53795 === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.37.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.37.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:02] hi abattoir, jsgotangco [07:03] hey [07:03] well well well === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:19] Hobbsee: ?? [07:19] Hobbsee: oh well, hello :) [07:19] abattoir: heya :) [07:19] must have d/c and reconnected :P [07:19] was away [07:21] yeah, that's what it shows === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:31] malone 42845 [07:31] Malone bug 42845 in regina-normal "regina-python broken (python2.3 -> 2.4 transition incomplete)" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42845 === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:11] Byte-compiling bbdb. This takes looooooong... [08:11] nice little message [08:11] sure wish I could get this all the time: Fetched 24.9MB in 23s (1049kB/s) [08:12] wow, yep [08:12] wow [08:12] RichJ: what updates were there, anyway? [08:12] a lot [08:12] i just finished installing emacs and emacs wiki [08:13] konq-plugins, libxvidcore4, linux-image, and linux-kernel-headers for me === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:20] new linux-image was for kdump === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:29] ah, cool === Hobbsee wonders if she needs to reboot. [08:34] RichJ: did you get an error installing those kernel images? [08:34] just saying i had to reboot in order for the modules to get updated/work [08:34] RichJ: what happens when you "sudo update-grub"? [08:35] not an error, but a message [08:35] Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub [08:35] Testing for an existing GRUB menu.list file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst [08:35] Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ... [08:35] Found kernel: /vmlinuz-2.6.17-5-386 [08:35] ls: /boot/*-kdump: No such file or directory [08:35] right, yep [08:36] i didn't need to paste all that sorry..just the ls: /boot line [08:36] well, it actually is an error semantically (according to the return value), but it's a non-fatal error. === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:38] im trying to figure out why my Meta key doesn't work in emacs [08:39] RichJ: just filed a bug for it [08:39] crimsun: well, yeah [08:39] for the splash image part? [08:40] I'm not convinced that's a bug by design [08:41] it probably shouldn't return non-zero if /boot/*-kdump doesn't exist, though [08:41] well, there was talk on one of the lists about "splash screens" [08:41] but ithink it was referring to changing the current 'test' image with a new one === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:01] ... [09:01] (ellipses yourself!) [09:01] imbrandon: testing out n-m stuff a bit [09:10] heh [09:10] imbrandon: hi, do you use a Compose key in Edgy's KDE? [09:13] compose key ? [09:13] for accented and other extended characters [09:14] ahh no i do not ( wasent sure what it was ) [09:14] i can test though if you wish [09:14] please, if you have some time and don't mind [09:15] sure [09:15] what key should it be ? === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:15] any key you set [09:16] ahh ok one moment lemmme set it and test [09:16] Morning. [09:16] moins omeow [09:18] Does kguidance support dual monitor setups? :) [09:19] Because if I use it, it makes me a configuration file, but it doesn't load randr and the desktop space doesn't fit on screen. I have to scroll it when I get near the screen borders. === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.238.70] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.44.220] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:12] Riddell, I'm sorry, did you commit the patches for xinerama yet? I've been trying to find some kind of svn log for qt and kdelibs, but launchpad is quite confusing and I'm not even sure if that's the place I should be looking. [10:13] you should be lookign at packages.ubuntu.com or changelogs.ubuntu.com but i think Ridd*ell is gone for the weekend to LRL === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:16] k noob question [10:16] the kmenu side image [10:16] how do you change that color ? [10:18] viviersf: try #kubuntu this is more of a support question ( or #ubuntu-artwork ) [10:19] not really support but ok === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:18] moin === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os [n=My8os@ppp142-3.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [11:47] moins kwwii [11:48] hi imbrandon, your up early, or? [11:48] late ;) [11:48] hehe, the sun is coming up, go to bed! [11:49] ;) [11:49] just got debian/ubuntu reinstalled, working on some merges last night ( when i should have been working on art.u.c but shhhh ) [11:52] hehe, just don't say that on ubuntu-artwork :-) [11:52] right right ;) [12:12] seaLne: http://dot.kde.org/1153735204/ [12:38] Riddell, I'm having trouble finding out if you patched the xinerama stuff yet. imbrandon gave me some links, but I still couldn't figure it out. =/ [12:48] omeow: I have but it's failed to build on powerpc and i386 [12:49] Thank you. [12:50] Did it fail to build because of those patches? [12:50] Riddell: which arch does it build on? [12:50] s390? :-) [12:50] AMD64 I guess? [12:50] amd64, sparc and ia64 [12:51] hehe, I am used to things being the other way around [12:51] me too [12:51] is there a ppc64 build? [12:52] How can I find out when it got built properly? Will you let me know or can I subscribe to a service/rss feed? [12:52] it's a problem with the linux headers, possibly it only happened with newest headers and other arches are behind [12:52] omeow: watch edgy-changes and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/kdebase/ [12:52] kwwii: no, not sure why not === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:17] Will someone please remove the if (user==omeow && character=="'") doNothing(); function? =/ [01:21] My apostrophe (still) doesn't work the same way ever since I upgraded to edgy. I have to press alt gr + apostrophe instead of apostrophe + space (or any letter). === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:39] hi all [02:39] morning Hobbsee [02:40] hi jjesse! === hungerW [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:41] Why were those damn close buttons added to tabs in konqueror? They make the whole thing pretty unusable with many tabs open:-( [02:41] hungerW: ask tonio_, i expect. [02:42] seems tonio added them, I'm yet to see them [02:43] Hobbsee: Those damn close buttons take up about 90% of the tab. Makes it pretty impossible to switch tabs with the mouse:-( === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:45] Riddell!!! How was LGL? [02:46] LRL? [02:46] good fun [02:46] Riddell: er, yeah, that [02:46] lots of kubuntu users [02:46] I had a full room for my talk [02:46] ooh :) [02:46] yay! [02:46] Riddell: what'd you talk on? [02:46] Kubuntu and KDE 4 [02:48] Riddell: ooh fun - what'd you say? [02:50] I said what a great place #kubuntu-devel is [02:50] Riddell: hope they didnt see last night's bitching about microsoft and google then. [02:50] nope, what happened there? [02:52] ooo just noticed that amd bought ati :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] grumble. i missed any response [02:54] 13:50 < Riddell> nope, what happened there? [02:54] 13:52 < jjesse> ooo just noticed that amd bought ati :) [02:54] 13:52 -!- Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] [02:55] Riddell: just people discussing, nothing major [02:55] and then you came back === Hobbsee wonders why her machine TOTALLY FROZE on her. [02:55] grumble grumble. === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:58] have you kicked it lately? [02:59] jjesse: i dont recall doing so, but i was playing with various versions of ndiswrapper, knetworkmanager, and powersave stuff. [03:00] Riddell: when were you wanting another meeting? === omeow grrs [03:00] Riddell: and i want to pick your brains for what happens with kopete, too. [03:00] Hobbsee: whenever people send me the times they are available [03:00] [whisper] also, how's kde 3.5.4 doing? [/whisper] [03:00] Hobbsee: kopete UVF exception got approved [03:00] Riddell: run it at 2100UTC wednesday on whichever week you like, until i figure out more. [03:01] Riddell: oh yay - but it's not in main. [03:01] nothing from 3.5.4 yet, it'd due to be tagged today === kane___ [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] Riddell: ah yeah, guess it can still be classed as today [03:01] Hobbsee: I'll upload kopete with a fixed version number and that'll pull it into main [03:02] Riddell: ah cool. tonio_ had a patch to commit against that - and the fixed number version was on revu, i believe [03:03] great, it's next on my todo list [03:04] Riddell: :) what's first then? removing my boss? [03:04] :P === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kane___ [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:06] Hobbsee: adding printer sharing [03:07] QString scaryMessage = i18n("Enabling local network browsing for printers will open a network port on your computer. If security pro\ [03:07] blems are discovered in the printer server remote attackers could access your computer as the \"cupsys\" user"); [03:07] is that understandable at all? [03:07] Riddell: i'd get rid of network [03:07] and a comma after server [03:08] Riddell: i'd also think of listing the port, in brackets [03:09] Riddell: however, the rest of it looks good to me :) === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kane__ [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kane__ [n=kane@202.83.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:30] Hello [03:31] hi bddebian [03:31] Heya Hobbsee === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-74-161.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-202-169.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:57] Hobbsee, poke [03:57] pygi: poke back [03:57] pygi: heya! :) [03:57] Hobbsee, please join, thanks :) [03:57] and heya :) [03:58] pygi: just did :P [03:58] Hobbsee: what is jingle? [03:58] Riddell, libjingle? [03:58] Riddell: jingle is voice support, i believe [03:58] google's library, with voice and audio support which gtalk uses [03:58] Riddell: not sure for which protocol - perhaps all of them. no...for jabber/gtalk [03:59] *that's* it [03:59] small brain freeze - i had to read lots of incredibly dull documentation, and other stupidity at work. === Hobbsee notes that the quantity button is now illegal. === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:25] bug 53795 [04:26] Malone bug 53795 in libsdl1.2 "libsdl1.2-dev won't install in edgy" [Untriaged,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53795 [04:42] Hobbsee: do you know what kopete uses libjasper-runtime for? [04:42] Riddell: i did, the changelog also knows, if you have it handy [04:43] Riddell: i believe it's there for yahoo webcam support [04:43] although i havent been able to test it [04:43] the other lib is for msn webcam support, that's right [04:43] libsdl1.2-dev installs for me [04:43] Hobbsee: would you be able to do a main inclusion report for libjasper-runtime? [04:44] Riddell: yeah, here too - we just didnt have the thingo in -ops [04:44] grrrr [04:44] Riddell: in all honesty, i'm not comfortable with the idea of kopete in main yet, as there's still lots of testing going on, and lots of extra build-deps going on, seeing what works, and what doesnt. === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-74-161.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:46] When I see changes in the edgy changes rss feed, how long will it be untill those fixes show up in the package list? [04:46] Riddell: will you include knet in edgy, too many end-users need a gui tool for set up their network connetion [04:47] omeow: depends on which mirror you're using, and how long it takes for the app to be built. [04:47] s/app/package/ === pygi shows http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=39085 :) [04:47] Thanks Hobbsee :) [04:47] Hobbsee: kopete is already in main, has been since hoary [04:47] omeow: a couple of hours to never [04:48] freeflying: if I get reports that it works and is usable yes [04:48] Riddell: kopete from kdenetwork is in main - not the kopete source, as such [04:48] but yeah, i guess you have a point. [04:48] Riddell: where's keybuk atm? [04:48] Riddell: is he on holidays or something? [04:49] pygi: nice! [04:49] Hobbsee: he was on IRC this (European) morning [04:49] don't think he's on holiday [04:49] Riddell: bleh, so i missed him. darn. [04:49] Hobbsee: why do you need him? [04:50] Riddell: was going to tell him that stevenk had done some work with nm stuff. [04:50] Riddell, could we include this application in install? [04:50] urfh, pygi, why can't I resize kxgenerator? [04:50] pygi: which? [04:50] pygi: is it packaged for ubuntu yet? [04:51] Riddell, kxgenerator, it might help users configure X server [04:51] we already have an X setup tool [04:51] Riddell, right, but this one is far better :P [04:51] Riddell: GUI? [04:51] That, and this one is quite annoying to use. [04:51] Hobbsee, nop [04:52] You can't resize and there's loads of options everywhere. I prefer the one that comes with kubuntu, but it would be nice if that one actually worked properly for dual monitors. [04:52] Hobbsee, I assume he meant kguidance. [04:53] omeow: ah okay. that we seem to get lots of bugs about. [04:53] omeow, we could always write patches for resize [04:53] Hobbsee, well, you should see what it does to the xorg.conf file when you try to configure a dual monitor setup. ;) [04:53] heh [04:53] i dont want to know... [04:54] Hobbsee, i'm going to say it anyway. =P It seems to do the trick, except that the desktop space is too big, you have to scroll at the borders of the monitors. And I don't think it would work well with games. (olol games on Linux) [04:54] omeow: if you have a problem with the Guidance Display tool _Sime_ is the man to talk to (except he's on holiday this week) [04:54] heh [04:55] Riddell, noted. I'll try to have a word with him. Who should I talk to for issues with aphostrophes not working after upgrading to edgy? :) [04:55] Riddell: it can work in dapper :) [04:55] Perhaps I should just let KDE re-generate my .kde directory and see if that does anything. [04:58] Does zsnes segfault on startup for anyone else? === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:01] freeflying: if we put in knet do you think we should get rid of kppp? [05:01] I just updated to edgy [05:01] but still using the old kernel I dont know why... [05:02] I did apt-get dist-upgrade [05:02] Riddell: I'd like to [05:02] I changed the sources list the apt-get update went fine [05:02] Riddell: knet function all that kppp has [05:03] hmm, knet has been at beta for over 12 months [05:03] why did http://rafb.net/paste/results/w4gpE413.html occur? it's from kopete. === Hobbsee doesnt know how to read backtraces. [05:04] Riddell: besides the pppd bug, knet works quite nice :) [05:05] freeflying: what's htat bug? [05:05] that [05:05] Riddell: Know anything about ivman? [05:07] Riddell: it's fixed in dapper, due to the version changes of pppd, knet can not find it === hungerW [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:10] my main reservation with knet is that the user interface is fantastically bad [05:13] but we have not another gui tool for user , so it's better than no :) [05:13] Riddell: thanks @ kopete [05:14] =( === Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:15] Riddell: ping [05:18] hi Mez! [05:20] heya Sarah! === seaLne gets back to glasgow [05:26] fun road trip? [05:27] welcome back seaLne [05:29] Mez: pong [05:29] missed the ping somehow === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-068-017-106-084.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:32] very hot in the car :( [05:32] seaLne, very hot in most places - specially in the main hall at LRL [05:33] Damn close button on tabs:-( [05:33] Mez: yeah not looking forward to what work will be like tommorow === MidMark [n=marco@host-84-221-102-66.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:41] Riddell: tell me something that i should work on, please. [05:42] Hobbsee, Olive KDE edition :) [05:42] pygi: something that i'll be able to do, but will make my brain work enough to avoid what i'm thinking about. or trying not to. thinking about not thinking about it. [05:44] Hobbsee: libjasper main inclusion report [05:44] Hobbsee: recompiling the world for gamin [05:44] Riddell: right, a guide for that is on the wiki? [05:44] Riddell: ahh...the second one i can do, too... [05:44] http://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:45] Riddell: the second one doenst require enough brain power and concentration. [05:45] make a new page MainInclusionReportLibjasper and use the MainInclusionReportTemplate [05:45] up to you :) === Hobbsee reads. [05:45] anyone got a brick handy, Riddell? [05:45] maybe i should let mithandir have my brain again [05:47] why a brick? [05:47] Riddell: to make myself pass out or something. === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:59] morning [05:59] hi toma [06:00] seaLne, did the pizza go down well ? [06:01] nah no one ate it === mart [n=Martin@socksgw3.ncl.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:02] hello mart [06:02]