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bastiqdo i need php5 if i have the php mod?12:08
draikgnomefreak:Thank you12:08
draikSWEET!!!12:08
LeeJunFanupdate-apache2-modules --enable php512:08
gnomefreakdraik: yw12:08
nixboxhey guys i have edited my sources.list and uncommented the universe and multiverse repositories, then i restarted adept but the list has not been updated, how will it get updated?12:09
LeeJunFannixbox: you need up update sources.12:10
LeeJunFannixbox: either thru adept or from command line 'sudo apt-get update'12:10
nixboxLeeJunFan,  ok12:10
gnomefreaknixbox: are you sure it was universe and multiverse or backports?12:10
bastiqLeejunFan: It says "No such module"12:11
||Trayer||What's the command to Remove a DIR that still has files in it? (YES, I know it's dangerous.  Stop protecting me from my ignorance : P)12:11
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gnomefreak||Trayer||: iirc its rm -r but man rm for better idea12:11
nixboxnixternal,  universe and backports (the uncommented lines have multiverse in them)12:12
nixboxgnomefreak,  universe and backports (the uncommented lines have multiverse in them)12:12
||Trayer|| gnomefreak: Nah, That'd take to much time.  Folder nuked : )12:12
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nixboxby the way where is the option to update sources in Adept?12:13
||Trayer||!ati12:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:13
bastiq!apache212:15
ubotuI know nothing about apache2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:15
bastiq!php512:15
ubotuI know nothing about php5 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:15
gnomefreaknixbox: the backports are not multiverse or universe repos. the backports use universe and multiverse you have to make sure the lines that end in universe have a space and than multiverse12:15
||Trayer||I installed Firefox from the repos, how do I install it = \???12:15
||Trayer||*Run it(12:15
mamatoshijust type firefox12:16
gnomefreak||Trayer||: click on the menu entry12:16
mamatoshior choose from the menu12:16
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gnomefreakuse the icon12:16
||Trayer||gomefreak: There is non12:16
||Trayer||mamatoshi Nothing runs12:16
gnomefreak||Trayer||: gnome?12:16
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gnomefreak||Trayer||: killall gnome-panel   <<type that when gnome comes back up look in menu12:17
nixboxgnomefreak,  yeah i got it thanks.12:17
||Trayer||I'm on kde12:17
gnomefreakforgot i was here ok12:17
||Trayer|| gnomefreak: I'm getting this error when I try to run firefox: (firefox-bin:19374): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:12:17
mamatoshi|| Trayer || :: open the k menu, then browse the internet, choose mozilla firefox12:17
gnomefreak||Trayer||: it should have a menu entry for it12:17
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gnomefreak||Trayer||: you get that message trying to run any GTK app12:18
||Trayer|| gnomefreak: So, how would I run it?12:18
gnomefreak||Trayer||: the menu entry under internet12:18
||Trayer|| gnomefreak: There is no entry in the menus12:18
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nixboxgnomefreak,  i have new packages in adept now, but when i searched for mplayer, the result returned is disabled, why is that so?12:19
gnomefreaknixbox: did you type the word multiverse after the word universe in your sources.list file?12:19
gnomefreak||Trayer||: apt-cache policy firefox12:20
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nixboxgnomefreak,  i didn't type anything, i just uncommented it and then verified that there is a space between them12:20
mariuxtwo tumbs up for kubuntu, ive never before seen so much stuff work out of the box12:20
mariuxill have to think about dropping gentoo :)12:20
gnomefreaknixbox: the lines that end in universe (there are 4 of them) add a space than type multiverse12:21
nixboxgnomefreak,  should i enable universe (only universe) and backports, or only one of them, as backports already has the universe as well.12:21
||Trayer|| gnomefreak: I did that, now what? It just displayed info12:21
unionhi, all12:21
gnomefreak||Trayer||: i need the info12:21
||Trayer||!pastebin12:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:22
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gnomefreaknixbox: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please12:22
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||Trayer||http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1873112:22
||Trayer|| gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1873112:22
mariuxwhich package contains "make" and so on?12:23
gnomefreak||Trayer||: when you type mozilla-firefox   does it open?12:23
gnomefreakmariux: build-essential12:23
mariuxthanks12:23
gnomefreakyw12:23
||Trayer||it just starts a new line, no errors.12:23
||Trayer||I had to run it in sudo last time I installed it = \12:23
nixboxgnomefreak,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1873212:24
||Trayer||And I just copied hte files out of the tarball on the website12:24
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gnomefreak||Trayer||: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox12:26
gnomefreaknixbox: ok you ready?12:26
nixboxgnomefreak,  yeah12:26
gnomefreaknixbox: ytou still ahve the file open right?12:26
nixboxgnomefreak,  yeah12:26
gnomefreakok good12:26
gnomefreaknixbox: do you see this line deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe12:27
nixboxgnomefreak,  have to add multiverse to it too? :P12:27
||Trayer|| gnomefreak: Still doesn't run.  How about I just download the tarball off the website and put a firefox folder in my homefolder? That worked before12:27
gnomefreakit should be like 5th or so repo in your list12:27
gnomefreak!ff12:27
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:27
gnomefreak||Trayer||: follow that12:27
gnomefreaknixbox: that line the one under it also12:27
gnomefreaknixbox: also add multiverse to the end of the l;ast 2 lines and take the # away from those12:28
gnomefreaknixbox: after that sudo apt-get update12:28
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nixboxgnomefreak,  ok its working, thanks.12:29
mariuxi cant find it in the faq, where can i find a list over good (non free) Repositories for dapper?12:29
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procyonhello i am having a problem where old (beta?) koffice packages are breaking my dpkg and not allowing me to update them12:31
wolfmanzrepositories still down?12:32
gnomefreakyw12:32
gnomefreakwolfmanz: most are up12:33
gnomefreak!easysource > mariux12:33
gnomefreakmariux: read yoru pm12:33
bastiqHmm... when i installed PHP4 i could make a small php script that worked. But phpmyadmin still don't work.12:33
coachJrepos are up-just ran EasyUbuntu12:34
mariux!easysource12:34
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:34
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mariuxi though it was spam :)12:34
gnomefreaklol12:34
gnomefreakcoachJ: not all are back up12:34
coachJl12:35
gnomefreaki think ca is still down12:35
gnomefreakand us12:35
LeeJunFanus is up.12:35
gnomefreakoh ok12:35
LeeJunFanat least it was about 1/2 hr ago.12:35
gnomefreakca was down about an hour ago12:35
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nixboxis there a network activity icon for KDE which resides in the tray, similar to the one on Windows12:36
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noiesmonixbox, knemo12:36
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gnomefreaknixbox: i think there is but i dont have kde open12:36
noiesmoknemo is a network activity monitor for kde system tray12:37
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nixboxnoiesmo,  not available through adept?12:39
gnomefreak!info knemo12:39
ubotuknemo: network interfaces monitor for KDEs systray. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 804 kB12:39
gnomefreaknixbox: yes it is12:39
noiesmohmm you on dapper12:39
nixboxgnomefreak,  it doesn't appear when i search for it.12:39
gnomefreaknixbox: on dapper?12:40
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nixboxgnomefreak,  although i have updated the sources.list and then run sudo apt-get update as well12:40
nixboxgnomefreak,  yeah12:40
gnomefreaknixbox: sudo apt-get install knemo12:40
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nixboxgnomefreak,  why wouldn't it appear in adept?12:40
gnomefreaknixbox: not sure12:41
nixboxgnomefreak,  ok12:41
bastiqI lost apache2.conf when i uninstalled the apache2 package and removed the apache2 folder...12:41
bastiqand some more files too12:41
bastiqoh.. i installed it again after :P12:41
nixboxnoiesmo,  i have installed knemo, but how do i start it?12:41
secleinteerhey does any1 know how to convert a color image to grayscale in the gimp?12:42
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eric__I was hoping for some help compiling gnash for kubuntu on PPC.12:46
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eric__Hello?12:47
eric__Hello?12:47
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coachJ_no one here12:47
eric__I was hoping for some guidance compiling gnash.12:47
eric__Are we it?12:47
coachJ_no but that sounds like a fairly complicated question12:48
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draikWhat extensions will MPlayer (KMPlayer) accept?12:49
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gnomefreak!info xmms12:49
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB12:49
gnomefreakhmmmmm12:49
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draik!info KMPlayer12:53
ubotuPackage KMPlayer does not exist in dapper12:53
draik!MPlayer12:53
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer12:53
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.12:53
draik!codecs12:54
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:54
gnomefreakplease dont play with the bot see /msg ubotu <fact>12:54
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wolfmanzwhats it mean when you get package can not be authenticated when uisng apt-get?12:56
Tommy2k4how do i resize partitions from inside kubuntu12:57
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mariuxwhats gam_server?12:59
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noiesmo_gam_server is the binary fo gamin (see http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/). It's a sgi_fam replacement for file alternation monitoring.01:01
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draik!info codeine01:07
ubotucodeine: video player for KDE designed to be as simple as possible. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 153 kB, installed size 544 kB01:07
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mariuxdoes people actually use the gam_server?01:10
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stallion88hi everyone01:13
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noiesmo_hi01:13
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stallion88does anyone knows how tu run hotkeys??01:13
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stallion88i've already install it01:14
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tommy2k4i did something dumb plz01:15
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tommy2k4i reinstalled kubuntu today but i made / too small01:15
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tommy2k4now its full and i cant login01:15
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kinghola01:16
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||Trayer||Hmm, I ran K3B (I'm switching to the DVD version of UBUNTU instead of KUBUNTU) and it asked for a writing speed at the start, it detected 31x and I said ok.  Is that a standard speed/Is there any way to figure out your speed for your self?01:17
noiesmo_tommy2k4, if no hd space you should be able to get root to log in single user mode01:18
tommy2k4from terminal?01:18
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noiesmo_tommy2k4, reboot go grub select recovery01:18
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noiesmo_tommy2k4, once your in you'll have to reduce the space then normal user can log in01:19
tommy2k4it will let me resize partitions?01:19
noiesmo_tommy2k4, gparted might help resize your partition01:19
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tommy2k4k01:19
tommy2k4brb01:20
noiesmo_tommy2k4, cant help on resize check out info on gparted01:20
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tommy2k4will do01:20
tommy2k4brb01:20
stallion88king, este es un canal solo de ingles, metete a #kubuntu-es o #ubuntu-es01:20
stallion88#kubuntu-es01:20
||Trayer||  I ran K3B (I'm switching to the DVD version of UBUNTU instead of KUBUNTU) and it asked for a writing speed at the start, it detected 31x and I said ok.  Is that a standard speed/Is there any way to figure out your speed for your self? I don't want to bust my dvd burner.01:21
draik||Trayer||:You have a DVD burner that can burn DVDs at 31x???01:22
noiesmo_||Trayer||, check the spec on your burner maybe go manufactures site should tell you01:22
stallion88any clue about the hotkeys issue??01:23
draikI burned a DVD earlier today with k3b and left it at Auto01:23
||Trayer||draik: It said 31x was its estimated speed, I thought no way = \01:24
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stallion88any clue how to configure the multimedia keys for my latitude d620??  the volume keys and muting....01:26
||Trayer|| noiesmo: On the medion site it doesn't seem to list it's models, and can't find the spec. Mabey I should just burn it at a low speed like, 8 to be safe?01:26
draik||Trayer||:I have a Memorex 16x burner with Memorex 16x DVD-R... I can select 6x max, but it will burn higher than that01:26
||Trayer|| draik: So I should burn the DVD at 6x, ?01:27
draik||Trayer||:No, my suggestion is to leave it on 'Auto' (default) and let it work at what it can. It may burn at faster speeds, but won't if you set a limit01:29
||Trayer|| draik: Where can I choose an auto? In configure it has a clear-cut max speed field under device01:29
Agiosdvd burn speed depends on a number of factors including the drive and the media. Just use auto and let it figure it out.01:30
stallion88any clue how to configure the multimedia keys for my latitude d620??  the volume keys and muting....01:30
khaled_guys, how can i remove kde... i installed it using apt-get01:30
draik||Trayer||:Its set to 'Auto' by default. You don't have to do anything. Just proceed with burning process01:30
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||Trayer|| Draik: Though, it asked me for a max burning speed01:30
deadagainhola01:30
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Agioskhaled_: id you installed it with apt-get, remove it with apt-get. apt-get remove <whatever>01:31
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khaled_thx, it's obvious that i am newbie01:31
draik||Trayer||:I hope I was helpful. I hope I didn't confuse you or make things more complicated for you01:33
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stallion88any clue how to configure the multimedia keys for my latitude d620??  the volume keys and muting....01:33
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rocketman768so, after upgrading from breezy to dapper, after screwing up a lot of things, i notice that on startup, the pcmcia stuff is "fail"ing, but it doesn't hang. I tried the suggested trick in the upgrade manual online, but "dpkg --configure -a" comes back fine01:34
Agiosstallion88: if anyone had an idea they would respong. Please give it an hour before asking again.01:35
rocketman768i suspect this is also what may be causing my internet not to work (or maybe completely separate). any ideas?01:35
AgiosI have yet to see an "upgrade" on any distro that didn't hose something up.01:36
Agiosfor that reason I have learned to always to clean installs.01:37
rocketman768I had an inkling that it would screw up at least my /boot folder, so I backed that up (and needed it). It also wiped out my video drivers and other stuff that i haven't figured out01:37
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Agiosmy advice would be to backup /home and do a clean install01:38
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noiesmo_rocketman768, with re your upgrade and say network card, check /etc/iftab and ensure that the mac address there matches your nics mac01:38
noiesmo_rocketman768, i did an upgrade from breezy to dapper and it screwed up a few things but after muching around for a day got it sorted as Agios suggested for a newbie a fresh install is probably better01:39
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rocketman768how do i check the mac and what would i then do? (it's built into the intel board btw)01:39
tommy2k4if i format my /home will the kubuntu installation still work01:40
Agiosinstall wil recreate /home. You will only lose your data and personal settings.01:41
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Agiosif there is nothing there you want to keep, go ahead and format it01:41
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draikWould there be a way of backing up your personal settings as one file that can be installed on a fresh install of Kubuntu?01:42
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noiesmo_rocketman768, ifconfig -a01:43
noiesmo_draik, settings for kde should be in your home folder under .kde01:44
noiesmo_draik, the share folder holds the main configs etc01:44
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draiknoiesmo:So I can just backup that folder and I'm all set... All I need to do is copy it back in on the re-install of the OS?01:44
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noiesmo_draik, if you use firefox or mozilla they will have there own dot directories in the user home folder01:44
draiknoiesmo:So I backup all the ./directory ?01:45
noiesmo_draik, that handles your  kde settings it will not hold any of your documents music etc just hte kde settings01:45
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draiknoiesmo:That's fine. As long as I can save my settings for in case anything happens then I'm happy. Saves me time on figuring out how I had everything before01:46
noiesmo_draik, various apps create the dot files and folders in your home directory with settings for them01:47
draik<~~~NEWBIE!!!01:47
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noiesmo_draik, just dont backup the .kde/cache-* socket-* and tmp-* from the .kde folder01:48
__mikemHello, I just found something very interesting. Look at this http://www.simplekde.org/01:48
draiknoiesmo:Noted01:50
draikTHANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP01:51
noiesmo_tommy2k4, did the recovery mode let you log in01:51
noiesmo_tommy2k4, was looking at info on gparted it doesnt like touching mounted partitions it was suggest to boot say knoppix and use qtparted on the partitions01:52
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asdfgh!emulator01:53
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ubotuI know nothing about emulator - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:53
asdfghI am using windows xp, is there an emulator to run kubuntu under win xp pls?01:54
noiesmo_vmware or qmenu01:54
abattoirnoiesmo_: qemu :)01:54
noiesmo_abattoir, oops soz01:55
asdfghwhich is better?01:55
h3sp4wnasdfgh: The best is colinux01:55
asdfghwhat is colinux?01:56
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h3sp4wnIts like usermode linux for windows01:56
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asdfghtnx :)01:57
asdfghso i think the best thing to do is colinux right?01:58
h3sp4wnCooperative Linux is the first working free and open source method for optimally running Linux on Microsoft Windows natively. (I wouldn't use vmware or qemu at all)01:58
h3sp4wntoo slow01:58
asdfghtoo slow colinix or vmware / qemu ?01:59
h3sp4wnvmware or qemu - colinux is fast02:00
asdfghgood...i shall try it then :)02:01
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asdfghi am running the installation and it says to download debian (21mb extracts to 1gb), gentoo deluxe or no download02:02
asdfghshall i choose no download for kubuntu?02:02
kbrooks21 mb is..... huge compression02:02
asdfghand gentoo linux 110 mb extracts to 2gb02:03
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gemidjyI got this guy's problem too, any idea: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=702002:04
unstablesob!mp302:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:04
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Tsedkbrooks: Not really, considering the majority of that is empty space, iirc :p02:04
chemajai know there exists a wiki KnownIssue on this, but has anyone actually attempted to repartition using the kubuntu installer, and if so, did it in fact crash?02:05
kbrooksTsed: and you're ttelling me whitespace compresses easily?02:05
Tsedkbrooks: Quite.02:05
kbrooksTsed: hehe02:07
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asdfghis colinux hard to install on windows?02:10
asdfgh!colinux02:11
ubotuI know nothing about colinux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:11
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DaSkreechWhy do people keep pushing for Linux to be the dominant desktop OS?02:15
asdfghhmm i think installing kubuntu with colinux is going to be pain in the ass02:15
gemidjyDaSkreech: why not02:16
noiesmo_DaSkreech, because it rocks dude02:16
DaSkreechgemidjy: That's not fair. Answer my question :-P02:16
gemidjyDaSkreech: U are troll or Linux user that sees no point in making Linux Desktop OS ?02:17
hubDaSkreech: what should they push>02:17
hubDaSkreech: Windows? you are in the wrong channel02:17
DaSkreechgemidjy: Lots of point what's the point of making it The One to Rule Them All?02:17
gemidjyDaSkreech: giving people freedom?02:18
abattoirDaSkreech: i didnt expect *you* to be flamed here :P02:18
DaSkreechNo why not just make Linux the best Linux it can be02:18
gemidjybecause it is02:18
gemidjyguess what, already02:18
dodger__because the more exposure a project has, the easier it is to improve upon it02:18
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DaSkreechabattoir: I just don't know why people keep thinking that there is some "force" behind Linux that should be rallied into making it a Business02:19
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gemidjygpg: no default secret key: secret key not available02:19
gemidjygpg: signing failed: secret key not available02:19
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: I agree with you - I don't like how bloated some of the desktop oriented linux distro's are becoming (switch to plan 9)02:19
gemidjywhy I get this error02:19
DaSkreechnoiesmo_: Damn Skippy02:19
noiesmo_skippy skippy the bush kangaroo02:19
abattoirDaSkreech: because the corporate honchos think they can make money out of it?02:19
DaSkreechnoiesmo_: Oh Dude I totally have that song02:19
noiesmo_DaSkreech, aah hahaha02:20
DaSkreechabattoir: See I could understand if they were the only ones pushing that02:20
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DaSkreechabattoir: There are a lot of people in the community who think that Linux is not "victorious" unless 51% of the world uses it02:21
noiesmo_DaSkreech, hey were do i find info on the kwin stuff for compiz you mentioned the other day02:21
DaSkreechnoiesmo_: Umm SVN? :)02:21
DaSkreechnoiesmo_: Check the commit digest02:21
abattoirDaSkreech: it is a matter of ego, people want what they use to be no. 1, because they think it reaffirm their 'correct' decision.02:21
abattoir*re-affirms02:22
h3sp4wnabattoir: Canocial is a commercial entity - If they really were into it they would pay developers in the same way redhat does (to work on just any project they want at least for some of the time)02:22
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DaSkreechWell how come the Amiga guys aren't trying to get the Govt's of the world to make it illegal to use anything but amiga?02:22
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abattoirh3sp4wn: i think Canonical and Redhat have completely different goals, completely different objectives...02:23
sopidohi is there a howto for dist-upgrading to edgy from dapper (like common problems and things to consider)?02:23
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LjL!edgy02:23
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule02:23
DaSkreechsopido: really if you are looking for a how-to on edgy I'd advise you not upgrade right now02:24
dodger__DaSkreech: good point, but this is actually quite the opposite -  the open document squabbles are about having an open format specification02:24
abattoiranyways, i'm dropping out of this 'off-topic' conversation... before crim*sun warns me again... :P02:24
h3sp4wnabattoir: Maybe so but RedHat does more for Linux and opensource generally than Canocial does02:24
dodger__exactly to *prevent* one company from having a stranglehold on businesses02:24
wolfmanzI think linux needs one main distro that hardware and software makers can get behind that would be a huge improovement02:24
sopidoi'll check ubuntu+1.. but DaSkreech why would you say so?02:24
abattoirh3sp4wn: hmmm, from what i've seen(and am seeing) i'd disagree...02:24
abattoirmaybe #kubuntu-offtopic is the place?02:24
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DaSkreechsopido: It's kinda likely to fry your machine on some random dist-upgrade currently02:24
Agiosdevice drivers are integrated with the kernel, not the distro.02:25
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DaSkreechOk I think that I have done stirring today :)02:25
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wolfmanzAgios were you ever a OP in a mandrake channle?02:26
noiesmo_DaSkreech, ya think02:26
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DaSkreechsopido: don't use it as your main machine in other words02:26
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abattoirDaSkreech: its fun to have a nice educated debate :)02:26
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Agioswolfmanz: on undernet, not on freenode.02:26
Agiosstill am02:26
wolfmanzagios lol ya ok i knew that i seen that name somewhere lol02:26
noiesmo_DaSkreech, cheers check svn and the kwin_compisiting will keeo an eye on it http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/217202:26
sopidoDaSkreech, i see.. well i consider this ;-)02:27
AgiosI did hang in #mandriva on freenode for awhile.02:27
wolfmanzAgios i was in there a fair bit when i was looking into mandrake02:27
wolfmanzAgios this was on undernet i'm talking about02:27
HendelsonPeople good night, how edit sources list? please02:27
Agioswolfmanz: I remember seeing your nick before :)02:27
DaSkreechHendelson: YOu can do it from inside adept02:27
LjLHendelson: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"02:28
DaSkreechCan k3b handle bluray?02:28
noiesmo_Hendelson, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:28
HendelsonThanks brothers02:28
wolfmanzAgios so your a kunbuntu guy now?02:28
Agioswolfmanz: I just moved to kubuntu on my desktop. I still have 2 other boxes running Mandriva.02:29
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wolfmanzAgios what do you think of kubuntu sofar?02:29
bastiqI need help to install Gaim202:29
DaSkreechnoiesmo_: Oh Yeah I read that :-)02:29
AgiosI like it. I had several issues but all are worked out except one.02:29
bastiqI can't install the rpm packages.02:30
Kadranhi i all02:30
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Agiosbastiq: apt-get install gaim02:30
noiesmo_DaSkreech, http://liquidat.wordpress.com/tag/free-software/kde/kde4/page/2/ says k3b handles bluray02:30
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Agiosand forget about rpm packages, those won't work on a ubuntu system02:30
abattoirnoiesmo_: in kde4 ?02:31
bastiqAgios: I don't get the beta 2 if i do that, right?02:31
Kadranhow could i share a file so can i get it from a remote pc02:31
abattoirnoiesmo_: oh, ok02:31
Agiosbarros: you will get the latest stable version, whatever that might be02:31
bastiqStable is for chickens :P02:32
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Agiosor those who like things to work :)02:32
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Agiosbastiq: apt-cache search gaim    will list what's available02:33
h3sp4wnbastiq: deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free (get it from there) apt-get source02:33
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DaSkreechKadran: What's on the other machine?02:34
gemidjycan I use apt-get with repos from cd without adding public-key ?02:34
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KadranDaSkreech: a windows machine in my work and i want to be able to exchange files from my pc (linux) at home, something like pcanywhare for windows02:35
farousKadran: did you look into doing that through ssh02:36
DaSkreechKadran: Ah You could try ssh?02:36
Kadranfarous: i don't know how to do it, could you please give me a link for a tutorial?02:36
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bastiqHmm... what's the name of the gaim beta 2 package?02:37
thompaare the repos. working again?02:37
DaSkreechKadran: First install openssh-server02:37
farousKadran: you connect to your work machine through the internet right. Sorry can not think of any tutorial in my case i just googled it02:37
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farousKadran: but you can look into samba and ssh02:38
Kadranthanks alot , you have helped me and gaved me a startpoint so i can move in02:38
Kadranthanks guys :D02:38
DaSkreechKadran: You are transferring from work to home?02:38
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noiesmo_bastiq, gaim 2 is gaim but theres a repo you can add to sources.list to get gaim 2 beta02:39
gemidjyhow can I add repo from DVD ?02:39
DaSkreechGaim2 is out???02:40
noiesmo_gaim2 here deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb ./ and this deb-src http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb ./02:40
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noiesmo_http://konsumer.wordpress.com/2006/04/18/gaim2-beta3-ubuntu/02:40
noiesmo_DaSkreech, gaim2 ^^^02:41
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bastiqnoiesmo_: Should i add those in my sources.lst?02:41
noiesmo_bastiq, yep02:41
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rr72hello, anyone have a few minutes to see if they can help me get kdm worki ng again for me? it terminates with signal 1102:41
noiesmo_bastiq, then do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install gaim02:41
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bastiqthanks02:41
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noiesmo_bastiq, np02:41
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gemidjy_how do I add repository from DVD ?02:43
noiesmo_gemidjy, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability02:43
bastiqnoisemo_: That messed up my sources.list... this is what i wrote:02:45
bastiqdeb http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb02:45
bastiqdeb-src http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb02:45
noiesmo_bastiq, you forgot  ./ on lines as above02:45
noiesmo_deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb ./02:45
gemidjy_how do I add repository from DVD ?02:45
noiesmo_deb-src http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb ./02:45
bastiqahh02:45
noiesmo_gemidjy, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability02:45
noiesmo_bastiq, np :)02:46
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bastiqI hope this beta have what i missed in gaim :)02:47
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gemidjy_how do I add repository from DVD ?02:48
gemidjy_ups sorry02:48
gemidjy_noiesmo: u dont understand, do ya?02:49
noiesmogemidjy, add this to your current repos restricted universe multiverse02:49
noiesmogemidjy, soz02:50
gemidjy_I want to use DVD as repository02:50
gemidjy_not to use dvd02:50
noiesmogemidjy, yes apt-cdrom02:50
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gemidjy_noiesmo: apt-cdrom searches in my CD drive and it can't find Repositories there, it doesn't even check the DVD drive02:51
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natan-why is it that programs don't always start on the first try?02:52
PokerFacePenguinnatan-: good question, and I thought it was just me02:53
DaSkreechGreat http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/07/stoppage_1.html just great02:54
gemidjy_damn *buntu community needs polishing02:54
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henriquevnatan-, PokerFacePenguin: it's related to leak of memory, I suppose02:54
henriquevmemory resources02:55
natan-like the update manager that pops up saying it needs to update02:55
natan-i put in my password02:55
natan-and it only actually starts up on the second time02:55
natan-nearly always02:55
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natan-if a program isn't going to load the the first time i ask it to i wish i could get some sort of message so i'm not waiting for it to start :P02:56
henriquevnatan-: don't you realize that even the thing which would displays this message could get in trouble? :)02:57
henriquevand that sometimes it may be impossible...02:57
henriquevdue to lack of resources, for example :)02:58
henriquev:P02:58
henriquevthere's a thing called priority (which I don't known how it works at all, but is related to this problem, I think so)02:58
DaSkreechhenriquev: Good explanation02:59
henriquev:P02:59
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shaun_bhello03:00
shaun_banyone here?03:00
henriquev240, including me and you03:00
gnomefreak.n03:01
shaun_bhah, well, there wasn't much chatter :P03:01
henriquevshaun_b: is it expensive international calls from there? My father arrived there at morning and still didn't called home except to say he's alive... :P03:01
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shaun_bi'm looking for some help regarding webcams in kubuntu03:01
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henriquevcould you relate it?03:02
henriquevgo streight to the point :)03:02
henriquevs/streight/straight03:02
shaun_bok, well, if i try to go to the device configuration, kopete crashes03:02
shaun_bif i have my webcam plugged in03:02
shaun_bif i try to send my webcam, as soon as the other person accepts, kopete crashes trying to open it on my computer03:03
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henriquevI can't help you with this... But have you tried openning Kopete using the console to see what error message does it shows up?03:03
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shaun_byes, but then it didn't crash, it just started to hang03:04
henriquev(do you knewn a Logitech's webcam is being selled by Future Canada by $10 CAD after rebate? :P)03:04
shaun_bthis is a logitech webcam03:04
kbrookshenriquev: awfully cheap03:04
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kbrooksreally.03:04
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shaun_byes03:05
henriquevshaun_b: could you display the output for us? (maybe using pastebin.ca)03:05
secleinteerhe said it just hung03:05
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shaun_bi have tried using xawtv03:05
secleinteerunless you can get output from gui version?03:05
shaun_bi can give you the output from that03:05
shaun_bif i xawtv -c /dev/video003:05
shaun_bi get X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode03:05
henriquevkbrooks: yes, I just don't buy it because these things doesn't accept international rebate and I don't live there (my father who is there and I discovered it after googling for a digital camera)...03:06
shaun_bhowever, if i do xawtv -c /dev/video0 -nodga it works03:06
secleinteercan u mod the kopete options to do that in gui?03:07
wolfmanzDaSkreech what would cause xmms to not load mp3's off the ntfs drive via konqueror but if i load conqueror through the terminal and then try and get xmms to play a song through konqueror it works fine?03:07
DaSkreechwolfmanz: say that again?03:08
shaun_bhttp://pastebin.ca/9774003:08
wolfmanzlol03:08
DaSkreechXmms won't play mp3s from konqueror but it will play mp3s from konqueror?03:08
abattoirhehe03:08
abattoirwolfmanz: have you tried changing the path from media:/hda1 to /media/hda1 for eg. ?03:09
noiesmoshaun_b, what permissions are on /dev/vedio003:09
secleinteeri tried playing mp3s from a win box on the lan using xmms & konqueror, but it never works03:09
shaun_bcrw-rw----  1 root video    81,   0 2006-07-23 20:27 video003:09
shaun_bi'm in the video group03:10
wolfmanzDaSkreech no what i said was if i load conqueror up via a terminal window just plain lopad no sudo i can then play mp3's from conqueror yet if i try and just load conqueror from the desktop and try and play mp3's from konqueror using xmms it dont work03:10
noiesmoSo you have (as root) to change the permission of your video-device-files: chmod o+rw /dev/video0; chmod o+rw /dev/video1. In addition, I made an entry for the user who wants to use the video devices in /etc/group: add the user name in the line starting with 'video'. However, this alone did not help and the permissions of the device files had to be modified03:10
shaun_bi already have rw rights to the device03:11
shaun_bi'm part of the video group03:11
farousnoiesmo: isn't adding himself to the video group just do it03:11
shaun_band as i said, if i use xawtv -c /dev/video0 -nodga i can view my webcam successfully03:11
wolfmanzDaskreech also one other thing XMMS can play the file just fine off the ntfs volume when i open the folder up using xmms03:11
noiesmoshaun_b, farous this is from here have used it on a deb system with logitech thought it might help http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html03:12
DaSkreechwolfmanz: Really? Hmm ok Does the konsole throw any errors?03:12
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abattoirwolfmanz: tried what i said?03:13
farousthnx noiesmo i remember thought there were a package that made video easy03:13
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shaun_bthanks noiesmo, i'll give it a try03:13
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farous!webcam03:13
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:13
farousshaun_b: ^  ^03:13
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inukotsuhello?03:14
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inukotsui need some help03:15
inukotsuanyone online?03:15
noiesmono03:15
abattoirinukotsu: there are 243 ppl online :)03:15
abattoiratleast here03:15
inukotsuyeah well...03:15
inukotsuanyways03:15
DaSkreechshhh everyone quiet...03:15
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abattoirhehe03:16
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abattoirinukotsu: what help do you need?03:16
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inukotsui installed linux onto a harddrive and then movied the hd to my sis's com (where it belongs), and now when i boot all i get is the bash shell03:16
wolfmanzDaskreech are you talking about when i load konqueror up in the terminal?03:16
noiesmoinukotsu, you'll need to reconfigure xserver03:17
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DaSkreechwolfmanz: I guess. When you go into the folder03:17
inukotsuwhat command should, i use03:17
noiesmosudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the right video etc03:17
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inukotsui allready tried that03:17
wolfmanzDaskreech no i dont get any errors then but when i first load up konqueror i get the following03:17
inukotsuit said it didnt recognise the command03:17
wolfmanzX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16803:18
wolfmanz  Major opcode:  14503:18
noiesmoinukotsu, it doesnt recongnise dpkg-reconfigure03:18
wolfmanz  Minor opcode:  303:18
wolfmanz  Minor opcode:  303:19
wolfmanz Resource id:  0x003:19
inukotsui typed it just like this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:19
inukotsui tried removing the "sudo"03:19
wolfmanzFailed to open device03:19
inukotsusame shit03:19
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wolfmanzthat error shows up twice03:19
noiesmoinukotsu, ok do dpkg-query -l |grep xserver03:20
inukotsuokay, lemie try that03:20
noiesmoinukotsu, you should get a list of whats installed related to xserver03:20
inukotsugimmie a sec03:21
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noiesmoinukotsu, ok03:21
Lord_Athurhi03:21
inukotsucommand not found03:21
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inukotsufor the record, i am running pclinuxos. the ubunto cd hasnt gotten here yet :(03:22
noiesmoinukotsu, ok lets try this sudo -i03:22
inukotsuokay03:22
noiesmoinukotsu, that will put you in root shell03:22
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abattoirlol03:22
noiesmoinukotsu, now try dokg-query -l |grep xserver03:22
wolfmanzDaSkreech that error is nothing to do with my problem i just looked it up and iots something to do with x server looking for a wacom device aka a pen and tablet03:22
Hawkwindinukotsu: You realize PCLinuxOS has their own support channel on Efnet ??03:23
inukotsuit just made a new line03:23
inukotsuits dead03:23
Hawkwindinukotsu: PcLinuxOS also has a traditional root account, as they are based on Mandriva03:23
Hawkwindinukotsu: No it's not03:23
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abattoirand they dont have dpkg03:23
inukotsueh?03:23
Hawkwindabattoir: They don't ?  They use apt-get03:23
noiesmois inukotsu not running ubuntu or kubuntu03:23
Hawkwindnoiesmo: No he's not, he stated that03:23
noiesmoHawkwind, dam missed that bit03:24
Hawkwind<-(  inukotsu  )->   for the record, i am running pclinuxos. the ubunto cd hasnt gotten here yet :(03:24
Hawkwindnoiesmo: Heh03:24
inukotsudamd, i would kill for a command prompt....03:24
abattoirHawkwind: ugh, sorry my mistake... i thought they used rpm...03:24
Hawkwindinukotsu: su -03:24
abattoirHawkwind: apt-get rpm ?03:24
Hawkwindabattoir: Nope.  Texstar used apt-get over urpmi03:24
ironfroggyany idea how to enable borderless printing on a capable printer?03:24
HawkwindI'm sure they have apt4rpm as well03:24
inukotsuhold on, i'll try it03:24
abattoirHawkwind: but isnt dpkg the tool for debs?03:24
inukotsuit made another new line03:25
Hawkwindabattoir: Yeah.  So they probably don't have dpkg :P03:25
abattoirHawkwind: hehe03:25
Hawkwindinukotsu: You really should consider getting help in the appropriate places03:25
inukotsuyeah03:25
inukotsuthanks for trying though03:25
Hawkwindabattoir: I wasn't thinking clearly, obviously03:25
inukotsucya03:25
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abattoirHawkwind: i though i had got something wrong03:26
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intelikeyconsole fonts are hosed on higher tty's    anyone know a fix ?03:30
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ironfroggyi would like to allow one box to share its apt archive with my other machines, so they dont have to download the same thing over and over. but one is a laptop, so i wont be able to access the archive folder at all when im away and apt will break. is there a way around this?03:33
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ubuntu_What would cause kubuntu to not load up properly i'm stuck at the kubuntu loading screen where that progress bar is03:47
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abattoirubuntu_: you arent speaking about the livecd right? what is the last message displayed?03:48
ubuntu_no this is wolfmanz by the way lol03:48
ubuntu_i'm in a live cd riht now becasue the system wouldnt boot03:49
abattoirheh, so you are on the livecd :)03:49
ubuntu_uh huh lol03:49
abattoiri wont help you, because you didnt listen to me :-\03:49
ubuntu_would editiing the xorg config file casue that issue with the boot?03:49
abattoir:P03:49
abattoirubuntu_: of course, that is one of the main reasons :P03:49
abattoirubuntu_: what exactly did you do?03:50
intelikeyonly if you consider xorg as part of the 'boot' process. i don't.03:50
abattoirubuntu_: what was the last message?03:50
ubuntu_i commented out the lines for the wacom device that was giving me the error03:50
abattoirubuntu_: well, if you did that properly, then i dont think that'd cause it...03:50
ubuntu_i saved that then hit ctrl alt backspace and it just sat there03:50
unix_infidelwhen using qtparted, do you guys recommend I do it from a live cd?03:50
abattoirubuntu_: and you shutdown improperly?03:51
ubuntu_i closed the apps down and hit ctrl alt backspace03:51
abattoirubuntu_: and then... you restarted... you just hit the power button?03:52
intelikeyubuntu_ did you remove the lines   inputdevice wacom   and the later mentions of the input device  or just the one section ???03:52
ubuntu_no i hit ctrl alt backspace and it sat there for a few minutes at that loading screen aftera  few minutes went by then i powered down the machine and the kubuntu kicked in and it shut the machine off03:53
ubuntu_no i commented them out with #03:53
abattoirunix_infidel: it would be the better option03:53
intelikeymy console fonts are hosed on higher tty's     anyone know a fix ?03:55
intelikey  <--- that should be something like _________   it's part of an ascII box03:55
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ubuntu_actullay  i think your on to something i think i just did the firwst section i dont think i made it to the last section of the file03:55
JRH3K5Question:  is there any utility for Linux that will create a folder based on the artist ID3 tag, and move the files by that artist into that folder?03:55
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rr72i am in need of assistance03:57
rr72kdm keeps terminating03:57
rr72signal 1103:57
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intelikeyxsane - GTK+-based X11 frontend for SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy)04:00
ubuntu_abattior is there a way to over ride the xorg config so i can load the machine up and make the changes ?04:01
ubuntu_abattoir is there a way to over ride the xorg config so i can load the machine up and make the changes ?04:02
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abattoirubuntu_: you can restore the original xorg.conf w/ 'sudo dexconf'04:02
abattoirubuntu_: if that is actually the issue04:03
abattoirubuntu_: however if a hard reset did something... could be a prob w/ your filesystem04:03
abattoirsince you have a habit of not answering my questions :P04:03
JRH3K5I'm trying to change root's password04:03
abattoirI cant exactly say :)04:03
JRH3K5sudo passwd root does not work04:03
nixboxis there a package for installing flash support in firefox?04:04
ubuntu_no i think its that file but how can i get to a command promp before that kubuntu load screen comes up?04:04
intelikeysudo passwd root does work if sudo works04:04
intelikeysudo echo blah04:04
JRH3K5Sudo works04:04
JRH3K5It just doesn't change the password04:04
intelikeyif it says blah then sudo works, if not sudo is not working for you.04:05
JRH3K5It echo'ed blah04:05
intelikeythe sudo passwd root does work.04:05
JRH3K5And, I repeat, sudo passwd root does not change the password04:05
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JRH3K5Because when I sudo with the new password, I'm told that my password is incorrect04:05
noiesmoJRH3K5, ok try sudo -i then you should be root then do passwd root04:05
bastiqHmm... i think my xorg.conf got messed up. That's strange is that i didn't touch it.04:06
noiesmoJRH3K5, the sudo password is yours not rootds04:06
intelikeyJRH3K5 hahah  that's not what sudo passwd root sets.   lol04:06
JRH3K5:/04:06
noiesmoJRH3K5, if you want to change the sudo password then change yours04:06
JRH3K5I was misinformed!04:06
bastiqIt added a lot of this everywhere and my resolution is really wierd... like if it's widescreen. modeline  "1024x768@85" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync04:06
ubuntu_abattoir how do i get to a command promp before the loading screen for kubuntu?04:06
JRH3K5:(04:06
intelikeywhat sudo passwd root does set is the root passwd.  not the user passwd.04:07
abattoirubuntu_: i'm again asking you... what is the last message you see before it freezes...04:07
noiesmoubuntu, when you boot go into recovery mode or ctl+alt+f104:07
intelikeypasswd      sets the user password04:07
ubuntu_no message it freezes at the progress bar04:07
abattoirubuntu_: because if the root filesystem cant be mounted, you cant get a shell from the system04:07
abattoirubuntu_: you mean the bootsplash right? so before even a single entry comes there, it freezes?04:08
abattoirubuntu_: then could be an initrd issue04:08
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abattoirubuntu_: another questio you evaded, :P, did you do a hard reset after the Ctrl+Alt+BS lockup?04:09
bastiqIt also believes i have another monitor04:09
intelikeyJRH3K5 seeing that you don't fully grasp sudo and the root/user accounts   do this so the *buntu zeolots wont hassel you.      sudo passwd -l root04:09
ubuntu_abattoir it goes through the laod up stuff where you see all the OK for everything after that it sits there i dont even make it into the user login04:09
bastiq!xorg04:10
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:10
abattoirubuntu_: ugh, what is the last message you see in the 'load up stuff w/ all the OKs' ?04:10
ubuntu_abattoir no i was about to do a hard reset and i took my finger off the button when i seen the kubuntu was doing its normal shut down04:10
intelikeyJRH3K5 then use    passwd     to set your own password, which is what you were trying to do.04:10
abattoirubuntu_: ok, what is the last error msg?04:10
abattoirsorry, last message04:10
ubuntu_i didnt see any error message04:10
JRH3K5...no, I wasn't trying to reset my own password.04:11
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abattoirubuntu_: yes, i corrected myself, said the last entry in the long list of loading stuff....04:11
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abattoirubuntu_: :'(04:11
ubuntu_no id ea lol04:11
ubuntu_i seen a bunch of OK's lol04:11
abattoirubuntu_: the last thing which is OK/not OK, will give us a clue as to what is happening04:12
bastiqCan i remove section "monitor" and hope it will autodetect it if i reboot?04:12
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ubuntu_ok i will reboot and see what the last ok is i'm pretty sure though its that file i only edited half of what i was supposed to04:13
noiesmobastiq, no i wouldnt do that you need to reconfigure04:13
bastiqhow?04:13
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noiesmobastiq, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:13
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smithsr93how do I make websites with windows media player work, like nickjr.com work with Kubuntu?04:14
secleinteersmithsr93: if it's wmv, i don't know if you can04:15
noiesmosmithsr93, mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla04:15
secleinteerdamn does that really work?04:15
LeeJunFansmithsr93: you need to install the restricted codecs04:15
LeeJunFan!restricted04:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:15
nixboxsecleinteer,  yup04:16
smithsr93I have installed the win32codecs04:16
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secleinteeronce you install mozilla-mplayer, will it automagically work? or is there some configging you have to do after that?04:17
bastiqDidn't get any better... :/04:17
smithsr93Where can I find the other codece listed like, libxine-extracodecs?04:17
secleinteersudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs04:17
secleinteerbtw if firefox plugins don't work for you, copy the files to /home/[user] /.mozilla/plugins from wherever you have firefox install04:18
noiesmosmithsr93, add universe and multiverse to your sources.list ant then sudo apt-get update then you caan get w32codecs and libxine-extras04:18
secleinteerinstalled*04:18
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smithsr93just did that, and go =t" Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate"04:18
smithsr93Sorry for the newbieness, but how do I add the universe and multiverse in Kubuntu?04:19
abattoir!multiverse04:20
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource04:20
noiesmosmithsr93, ^^^^^^^^^04:20
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smithsr93!easysource??04:21
ubotuI know nothing about easysource?? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:21
bastiqthat reconfig didn't change anything i xorg.config04:21
abattoir!easysource04:21
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:21
smithsr93Thank you I will try your advice.04:21
wolfmanzabattoir ok i'm back in and ya it was the config file thatw as the issue04:22
abattoirwolfmanz: xorg.conf?04:22
wolfmanzthanks to whoever mentioned the ctrl alt f104:22
wolfmanzya04:22
abattoirwolfmanz: and for the xmms thing, make sure the url you load from is /media/hda1 rather than media:/hda104:22
abattoirfor example, that is04:23
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wolfmanzthe xmms thing is a really strange thing04:23
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abattoirwolfmanz: afaik, xmms doesnt handle kioslaves like media:/ so konqueror might pass that url to xmms... and hence the problem04:24
wolfmanzya but why does it work depending on how konqueror is loaded?04:24
bastiqthis is fucked up. soon i'll just delete half my xorg.config04:25
wolfmanzbastiq dont do that lol04:25
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bastiqWhy? It has 2 graphic cards and 2 monitors04:25
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bastiqbut i only have 1 of each04:25
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abattoirwolfmanz: maybe clicking on the desktop loads something like home:/user, while loading from the cli loads a default profile which has /home/user04:25
bastiqand reconfigure says i wont change anything because of some x server thing04:26
DrBairkpdf on my laptop is dead. It opens, but can't open any files. Any ideas04:26
abattoirDrBair: did you try loading from the cli? any unusual errors?04:26
abattoirDrBair: the file open dialog doesnt come up?04:27
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DrBairabattoir: yes, unknown mimetype application/x-kdeuser304:28
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DrBairopen dialog does come up... but no files appear in it04:28
abattoirDrBair: no files whatsoever? or only pdf files dont show up ?04:29
DrBairabattoir: nothing04:29
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DrBairabattoir: and pdf files do not have the acrobat icon...04:29
abattoirDrBair: weird... you tried changing Kpdf's default file associations?04:30
||Trayer||Does K3B support Multi-session disks?04:30
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DrBairabattoir: yes, still no go04:30
abattoirDrBair: hmmm... what happens when you rt.click on a file and open w/ kpdf ?04:30
DrBairabattoir: same deal04:30
abattoir||Trayer||: of course !04:30
abattoirDrBair: maybe changing the default file associations did something :P...04:31
||Trayer||Huzzah ^^;!  Also, does anyone have an opinion on the program Inkscape and if it's safe?04:31
abattoirDrBair: ok, ok, i guess it happened even before that04:31
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abattoirDrBair: you have any other PDF app installed? Adobe Reader, kghostview?04:31
abattoir||Trayer||: afaik, it's the best SVG solution for linux...04:32
abattoir||Trayer||: It's GTK... not safe... :P04:32
abattoir||Trayer||: hehe, was kidding :)04:32
||Trayer|| abattoir: oO; Lol.  I was contemplating re-installing my comp with UBUNTU, but, I don't think I could live without Kopete :O04:33
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abattoir||Trayer||: While i'd strongly suggest staying w/ KDE(i'm zealous :P), i'd also tell you that you can run kopete from gnome04:33
nixbox||Trayer||,  whats so special about kopete? :P04:34
DrBairabattoir: Adobe... which works find and I think started this mess04:34
abattoirDrBair: that'd be my guess too :)04:34
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||Trayer|| nixbox: I like the look and feel of it 1000x more than GAIM, And it's multi protocols over aMSN04:34
abattoir||Trayer||: I'm just curiousk, so if i may ask, what do you find lacking in KDE/Kubuntu compared to Ubuntu?04:35
abattoir*curious04:35
wolfmanzok round 2 of editing the xorg file lets see if this boots up lol brb04:35
abattoir||Trayer||: this is not to start a flame war and is purely of academic interest :)04:35
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nixbox||Trayer||,  do you really multiple instant messaging services?04:36
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abattoirwolfmanz: hehe, anyway now you know what to do :)04:36
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ubuntu_Bah :(04:36
nixboxs/ /use04:36
farous_abattoir: one word here it does not crash to much04:36
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||Trayer|| abattoir: KDE Crashed a few times on me already, and In my previous ventures gnome has only hardlocked on me once.  Also gnome is 'simpler' I find.04:36
abattoirfarous_: hmmm KDE crashes or specific apps crash?04:37
||Trayer|| nixbox: Not really, 99.9% of my contacts (2 are yahoo) are msn.  But it's nice to always have the oppurtunity to add more.  And I just like the 'feel' of the program04:37
farous_most application in kde crash too often04:37
farous_yet kde is much better integrated04:37
nixbox||Trayer||,  so you are more in love with the feel of the program, hehe04:37
||Trayer|| nixbox: Awwww yeah ; )04:37
abattoirfarous_, ||Trayer|| hmm, you guys using Dapper w/ 3.5.2 i assume...04:37
DrBairabattoir: got it... pdf files had 4 mimetypes associated with them04:37
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DrBairabattoir: deleted the weird ones and everyone was happy :-)04:38
||Trayer|| abattoir: I'm usuing whichever one comes with the CD downlaod04:38
||Trayer|| abattoir: As of, 2 days ag04:38
abattoirDrBair: i guess Adobe Reader added them :P04:38
||Trayer||*ago04:38
farous_abattoir: i started using kde when i started linux some 9 years ago04:38
abattoir||Trayer||, farous_ : ok, thanks for your opinion. :)04:38
abattoirfarous_: oh04:38
||Trayer||Is firefox worth getting over konqueror?04:38
farous_abattoir: :)04:39
abattoir||Trayer||: hmmm depends on what your requirements are04:39
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||Trayer|| abattoir: Non really, just wondering in general if it is worth the download.04:40
abattoir||Trayer||: for me konqueror seems faster than firefox(maybe due to the qtk-qt engine), but i used to use firefox for the extensions...04:40
||Trayer|| abattoir: Doesn't Konq support firefox extensions...?04:40
wolfmanzabattoir ok everything is back to normal for a few minutes atleast04:40
abattoir||Trayer||: you could definitely give both a try and stick w/ what you like...04:40
abattoir||Trayer||: nope04:41
abattoirwolfmanz: hehe, till you go messing around again :P04:41
||Trayer||Does Videolan (VLC) support .wmv?04:41
OODno it doesnt04:41
OODyou need win32 codecs to play wmv files04:41
||Trayer||hmm, wine : )?04:41
abattoir||Trayer||: win32codecs...04:42
abattoirOOD: doesnt vlc come w/ inbuilt support for wmv?04:42
wolfmanzabattior i have to go messing around this OS needs to be refined more i still dont know why my login screen is at 1600 x 1200 i tried that vga=791 deal and that didnt do anything04:42
OODno, just download the win32 codecs from here: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html04:42
abattoirwolfmanz: login screen or the bootup screen?04:42
OODget the windows essentials download, and copy all the files to where it says in the readme04:43
farous_OOD: w32codecs is in one of the extra repos04:43
farous_!easysource04:43
OODthen kaffeine will be able to play wmv files04:43
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:43
OODis it?04:43
farous_look at ubotu link04:43
OODthen that'll be easier04:43
wolfmanzabattoir the bootup one the first one you see where it wants you to log in before it loads all the KDE stuff up04:44
abattoirhmm, does the VLC page also detect my distro or is the presence of "Download for Ubuntu" a fluke?04:44
abattoiri guess its the former04:44
||Trayer||Has anyone run the game "Nexiuz" on KDE before,? (It is linux native)04:44
OODheh, i'm always taking the long way around everything :D04:44
||Trayer||(And free, and open source)04:44
OODyea i have04:44
||Trayer||Is it any good?04:44
OODit04:44
abattoirwolfmanz: ok, you did mean the login screen... afaik, it uses the same Resolution that X does(because it is X)...04:44
OODit's a lot of fun, almost as good as unreall 200404:45
abattoirwolfmanz: so whatever res. you get in KDE, you should get it there04:45
||Trayer||Ah, well, you see I have that to ; ).04:45
||Trayer||Hmm, I need to find my UT CDs and remember how to install them = \04:45
farous_OOD: :) it is the way i used to take for some time too then i was spoiled04:45
wolfmanzabattoir my desk top res is 1024 by 768 and the res on that login is like i said 1600 by 120004:45
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abattoirwolfmanz: hmmm, are you sure? i dont think it'd be possible...04:46
OOD||Trayer||: Unreal Tournament 2004 has a linux installer04:46
abattoirwolfmanz: even if that is the case, i am not aware of a place where you can change it04:46
abattoirwolfmanz: wait a sec04:46
wolfmanzabattoir yup i'm sure my monitor even does the res switch thing when it comes off the screen and loads up the desktop04:47
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wolfmanzabattoir i think the default install res for kubuntu was 1600 by 120004:47
bastiqYea! Haxxor bastiq!04:48
OODfarous: i prefer to do everything by myself, don't like all the automatix and easy ubuntu stuff :P04:48
Agiosyour xorg virtual size is different from the monitor physical resolution.04:48
Agioscheck xorg.conf to verify04:48
farous_OOD: never used them myself04:48
bastiqi restored the xorg by taking the one that the live-cd creates04:48
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farous_i ment having a package for wincodec and spe or wrappers for python progs04:48
||Trayer|| OOD: I'm quite the noob though, it takes ALOT of time for me to figure out ; ).  I think I got it now after my fourth time, DONT CD into the CD (Heh, pun intended), do a "sudo sh /media/hdb/linux-installer.sh" and then rightclick the CD icon on the desktop to eject.  Also update video drivers before running and run UT2004 in sudo,04:49
abattoirwolfmanz: i cant seem to find any options in KDM for changing the res... you could try asking at #kde04:49
||Trayer||Oh, On that! Unless I run UT2004 in sudo it gets an error04:49
Jame1Greetings.  I've a new Kubuntu Dapper installation that is having issues with proprietary formats.  I've followed through the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki, but I've still got several issues.04:49
Jame1First off, if I try to play an mp3 file in amarok, the program simply skips past each song in order, as if it's 0 length.04:49
wolfmanzabattoir i dont think its a KDE issues its the xserver thing04:50
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OODfarous: yeah i know, but it's definitely more convinient to just grab it from the repository :)04:50
Jame1Has anyone seen this?  (It's not on th eDapperKnownPrograms link in the topic)04:50
||Trayer||Oh, Out of question... where should I usually install a game/app to?04:50
abattoirwolfmanz: hmmm, i havent heard of such a problem, i have no clue sorry...04:50
farous_:)04:50
||Trayer||I spent an hour trying to figure it out, to like, a folder in home?04:50
abattoirJame1: have you installed libxine-extracodecs ?04:50
Jame1Sound itself works for system sounds and such, but that's it.04:50
Jame1abattoir: I believe so.  I'll double check.04:50
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Jame1Yep, it's already installed.04:51
JessehkWhen choosing a gtk theme to use with gnome apps in the control center, where does it get the themes from? Some vital ones (for me) are missing from the available list.04:51
wolfmanzabattoir i will get to the bottom of it it will just take some time and a few more system crashes lol04:51
abattoirwolfmanz: heh04:51
abattoirJame1: and the xine-engine is selected in amarok right?04:51
||Trayer|| Where should I install the standard game/app? /home/games?04:51
OOD||Trayer||: it's up to you, but i remember one person having trouble running it aftter installing sudo04:52
OODinstalling with sudo*04:52
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Jame1abattoir: Yep.04:52
||Trayer|| OOD: So, you SHOULDNT install stuff with sudo? So, Non sudo and in a home/game folder? Would that fix my needing to run the exe in sudo?04:52
abattoirJame1: try removing the amarok settings file ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc Note: you'd obviously lose your settings :P04:53
abattoirJame1: or you could back it up04:53
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Jame1There's been no settings so far except building a collection from scanning a directory.  Nothing I can't redo.04:54
OOD||Trayer||: i'm not certain if actually installing with sudo would cause a problem, but someone had a problem with it, and if you're installing to the home directory i see no point in using sudo to install it04:54
||Trayer|| OOD: Alright, from now on I'll install games to home directory without sudo to try to reduce errors. thanks04:55
||Trayer||Im gunna go play some nexuiz, just finished downloading : )04:55
abattoirJame1: the collections are stored in a different place afaik... so close amarok, delete the settings file, restart it04:55
Jame1OK, now amarok is freezing. :-04:56
OOD||Trayer|| np :)04:56
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Jame1Nope, still doing the same thing.04:56
Jame1Let me see if I can try a wav file...04:57
abattoirJame1: ok, close amarok, delete ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/xine-config, and delete the amarokrc file again... open up amarok04:57
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Jame1Yep, Wav files work.04:58
||Trayer||Nexuiz wont let me turn up the graphics quality in game, it just closes when I click apply.  Is there a settings file to do this manually, does anyone know?04:59
Jame1abattoir: No change.04:59
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abattoirJame1: that's weird... wait a sec05:00
kalindaGreetings everyone05:00
Jame1I actually have to leave in a few min. :-(05:00
||Trayer||I cant change my resolution, that's my only problem05:01
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abattoirJame1: well, i cant think of anything else, removing those two files generally works...05:02
Jame1I'm guessing that this is probably caused by the same thing that is preventing audio from working in Kaffeine.  I can play video files, but I get no audio with them.05:02
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abattoirJame1: have you tried upgrading to the latest version of amarok?05:02
Jame1I just did an Adept upgrade an hour ago.05:02
Jame1So it's at whatever is most current in Dapper.05:03
abattoirJame1: and you have amarok 1.4.1?05:03
abattoirJame1: kubuntu.org has the latest packages05:03
Jame1... 1.3.9.05:03
Jame1wtf?05:03
marcushi room05:03
Jame1Kubuntu has a newer version available than what's in the package archive?05:04
OODyes there's a newer version05:04
rus1hi05:04
Jame1Well yargh.05:04
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Jame1I'll have to try that later.  I have to go pick someone up at the train station.05:04
abattoirJame1: kubuntu.org repository is an 'external' repository... 1.3.9 was the latest when dapper was frozen for release..05:04
OODJame1: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php05:05
abattoirJame1: and its been about 2 months since that05:05
Jame1abattoir: I see.  I'd expect what's packaged to work, though.05:05
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Jame1As I said, I suspect it's the same cause as Kaffeine having issues with sound.05:05
abattoirJame1: well, generally those 2 files cause issues... they dont seem to work for you... for some reason05:05
abattoirJame1: maybe its libxine05:05
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abattoiras that's the only thing common b/w the 2 that i can think of05:06
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Jame1Hum.05:06
Jame1I shall futz with it later.  Thanks for the help.05:06
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abattoirJame1: np, bye05:07
marcusanybody offer a link to a wu-ftpd howto by chance?05:07
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mushroomdoes anyone know how to disable suspend in dapper?05:07
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rus1Does anyone know how to suspend in dapper?05:11
kalindaI'd love to know that, meself05:11
rus1I can do it through the laptop & power thing in system settings05:12
rus1But only if I close my laptop lid05:12
rus1And I want to be able to do it "on command"05:12
mushroomim trying to track down a hardlock05:12
mushroomand it looks like kubuntu got the very, very short end of the config tools stick05:12
mushroomid like to know how to turn the sucker suspend off05:12
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mushroomits kinda sad, its like the ubuntu devs dont really care at all about kde05:14
rus1What is "sucker suspend"?05:14
mushroomI suppose I should have went with either suspend or sucker, you're right it makes little sense to have both.05:15
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ryan_narutomy ubuntu doesnt recognize my usb stick when i plug it in... at first it did but when i ejected it and plugged it back in it cant detect it anymore what should i do...05:16
jmichaelxwhat i hate, i plugging in a usb stick, having auto-mount, but when you click to 'safely unmount' it, it tells you that you need to be root to do that. kind of silly to me.05:17
jmichaelxis*05:17
mushroomhrm, mine doesnt do that05:17
mushroombut then again thats on my ubuntu/kubuntu desktop, which performs much better05:17
jmichaelxi don't know why mine3 does then05:17
mushroomi think its best to install ubuntu and upgrade05:17
mushroommy just kubuntu desktop does all kinds of wierd stuff05:18
mushroomalso05:18
mushroomrus1: the app kpower save can do what you want05:18
mushroomyou can get it from the repos05:18
mushroomi just found it05:18
jmichaelxi have kubuntu on 2 PCs and a laptop, and i love it, but it has its annoying moments05:18
rus1mushroom, thanks, I'll check that out.05:18
mushroomi love it also, i just think its best to install ubuntu first05:19
rus1Still, I shouldn't really have to install an additional app just to use a feature that's clearly already there, I don't think.05:19
jmichaelxyou may be right, i have heard others say that before05:19
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mushroomubuntu was not made at all with kubuntu in mind05:19
jmichaelxi just installed the new mepis on an older P# box that i have last night.... seems really nice05:20
torvichola05:20
jmichaelxP3*05:20
torviccomo andan05:20
mushroomif you go the the kubuntu wiki, most of the steps involve ubuntu(gnome) tools, which is fine with me, they just are not in ubuntu05:20
torvicprobando k ubuntu!!!05:20
ryan_narutoany idea on how i would fix my usb problem. or do i need to restart my ubuntu system05:20
jmichaelxi just hate gnome05:20
mushroomlast ubuntu=kubuntu05:20
mushroomim not a big fan but i will use gtk tools if need be05:20
torvicthanks...05:20
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torvicnot is necesary reboot the computer...05:21
mushroomryan_naruto: its prolly best to reboot, sometimes that happens, im sure you can fix it without a reboot i just dont know how05:21
torvickill the X05:21
mushroomi dont think killing x would take care of that...05:21
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jmichaelxi would really like to get fluxbox going on one of my k/ubuntu machines, but have not been daring enough to experiment. i AM going to install fluxbox on my mepis box this week , though05:21
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torvicI need play mp3 in kubuntu, but i don't know....05:25
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torvicbye...05:26
rus1are you trying to /join05:26
rus1?05:26
torvicyes05:27
torvici like create a channel...05:27
torvicI from Colombia, South America05:28
rus1ok05:29
torvicI' dont speak english, I'm speak spanish05:29
abattoir!mp3 > torvic05:29
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JRH3K5Say I have a group, users, for my roommates' accounts.  They will be limited to SFTP and have use of a public_html directory.05:38
JRH3K5If I make permissions wrx-rx--- and chown root:[my usergroup]  on all directories in /, this will block them from being able to trawl around my hard drive in an FTP client, yes?05:38
JRH3K5While allowing me to read and execute files within the directories in /, yes?05:38
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Leafwbug in metacity: when calling toFront() form java, windows get activated but do not make it to the front. Any known solution ?05:39
Leafw#ubuntu boils with questions but noone answers ...05:39
JRH3K5I have the chroot patch installed, but this is in case they want to be able to go to [my ip] /~[username] 05:39
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||Trayer||how do you make it emote = \, And I agree. Nexuiz is running slower than poop on my ati card05:40
JRH3K5/me05:41
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JRH3K5Pfft.05:42
rr72i need help with kdm i get a signal 11 error05:42
JRH3K5Way to trail behind, rr72. :P05:42
JRH3K5signal 11?05:42
rr72i was away on vacation and i came back and kdm wasnt working05:42
JRH3K5Hmm05:42
JRH3K5Isn't there a bot in here?05:42
rr72kdm terminates05:42
JRH3K5!kdm05:42
ubotuI know nothing about kdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:42
JRH3K5!signal 1105:42
ubotuI know nothing about signal 11 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:42
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bobbyyuHey guys, can't work my Adept. Sometimes, it doesn't open after loading, sometimes it tells me another instance is running.05:43
rr72some people say 11 is memory or segmentation fault05:43
bobbyyuI tried to use dpkg, but it tells me that it needs superuser privelege05:43
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Kr4t05bobbyyu: use "sudo" before it.05:44
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Kr4t05bobbyyu: when in doubt, just use "sudo" :)05:45
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bobbyyuI did that, but to no avail05:46
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bobbyyuShould I login as root?05:47
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rr72bobbyyu~ try to login as root, it doesnt let u05:48
rr72anyone else having signal 11 error on kdm or is it just my package i apt-get install?05:48
bobbyyuIt doesn't. Oh damn05:49
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rr72is kdm a bad package?05:50
LeeJunFanrr72: has it always done this?05:50
bobbyyuAny ideas?05:50
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rr72LeeJunFan~ no i went on vacation and i came back and kdm was giving me signal 1105:50
aeon17xHow do I set adept to only check for updates weekly?05:51
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LeeJunFanrr72: perhaps some config file is hosed. 'dpkg -P --force-depends kdm' will remove kdm AND config files. Then apt-get install kdm and see if that helps maybe?05:52
rr72is that equal to --purge?05:53
LeeJunFanrr72: yes05:53
rr72i tried purge already05:53
rr72nothing05:53
rr72and i did fsck and a few other things05:53
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LeeJunFanrr72: does it do it at kdm startup or after you enter login/pw?05:54
rr72i see nvidia screen and it goes black and a flashing underscore05:55
rr72so i check logs and see quit from signal 1105:55
LeeJunFanrr72: perhaps the problem is actually with X? you checked X logs?05:55
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rr72xorg u mean :P but i was away and why would it happen if noone had access to it05:56
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Dodgeri don't know what it is but everytime i boot to windows (yeah yeah i know) i have to actually turn the computer *off* in order to get my wireless card back up in kubuntu05:58
Dodgersomething windows does with it seems to not be quite kosher05:58
LeeJunFanrr72: doesn't make sense - perhaps disable DPMS? http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/02/msg00139.html05:59
LeeJunFanI've figured out a way (using windows) to disable any computer :p ...06:00
LeeJunFaninstall it.06:00
Dodgerheh06:00
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Dodgeri actually hate booting back into it... feels so06:00
Dodgerclunky06:00
LeeJunFanDodger: I wonder if it's simply disabling the card. ie. on mine to enable disable the wireless card I have to hit Fn-F1106:01
LeeJunFanDodger: perhaps when your wireless utility in windows shuts down it puts the card in disabled mode ?06:01
Dodgeri'm not running a laptop though06:01
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LeeJunFanDodger: oh, beats me then. hehe06:01
MoyhijaHey, can anybody help me on problem with keyboard layout. I am finnish so my keyboard includes the a with dots over it and o with dots over it. They all work fine in everything else in my Kubuntu except in Konversation where pressing them gives:  or .06:03
MoyhijaI've tried changing the keyboard layout in the Konversation settings but nothing seems to work06:04
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rr72(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX               could tha be my problem? its in the Xorg log06:04
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Dodgerby the way, should i be wary of upgrading my kernel to 2.6.15-26 (-k7 SMP)? are there any known issues?06:04
LeeJunFanrr72: that could certainly be it, doesn't explain why it can't load glx after returning from vaca, but ... I guess I'd try installing the nvidia stuff again perhaps.06:05
rr72thats a pack or by hand? i don't remember how i did it06:06
bodhieto use google earth i need the qt libraries? i cant install, i open the bin and say Verifying... and close inmediatly06:06
LeeJunFan!nvidia06:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:06
rr72just tell me06:06
rr72i hate gay bots06:06
LeeJunFanrr72: I've got ATI myslf so I can't really help you with that.06:06
LeeJunFanrr72: if you've got the standard kubuntu kernel then you should be able do install packages. if you've upgraded your kernel perhaps you need to make sure your restricted-modules for that kernel version are installed.06:07
rr72how do i see which one is installed, i always forget how to search installed packs06:08
LeeJunFanrr72: dpkg -l | grep restricted06:09
rr72just reinstall those packs then?06:10
LeeJunFanrr72: if it's got ii in front of it - it's installed, if rc then it's removed.06:10
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rr72all are removed06:10
LeeJunFanrr72: perhaps just re-installing the linux-restricted-modules-[version]  will work.06:10
rr72i don't have cds and its ascking me for cds i think i manually installed nvidia06:11
rr72unless i did use the cd i don't know wha i did, im really tired06:12
LeeJunFanrr72: what does 'uname -r' say which kernel version you have?06:12
rr72i think i used synopse actually06:12
rr722.6.12-9-38606:12
rr72but i don't have access to kde so i can't use it06:13
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LeeJunFanrr72: if you comment the line from /etc/apt/sources.list that has the cdrom source it will use only the repositories, you should be able to install what you want w/o cd's then.06:14
rr72i havent had problems like this in a while06:15
rr72i guess i need one to make sure i know what i am doing06:15
LeeJunFanrr72: lsmod | grep nvidia -- should say if you have nvidia modules loaded at least.06:15
rr72its there06:17
rr72don't know what that means06:17
rr72nope still nothing06:18
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LeeJunFanwell could still be something corrupt with the driver. hard to say exactly.06:18
LeeJunFanrr72: anything interesting if you run dmesg?06:18
rr72[4312416.207000]  agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0.06:19
rr72[4312416.207000]  agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode06:19
rr72bunch of those06:19
rr72[4294721.856000]  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.                mean anything?06:19
LeeJunFanrr72: hrm, nothing useful. No tainted just means it's not a fully open source module.06:20
LeeJunFannot GPL06:20
rr72ty for all this help BTW06:20
LeeJunFanrr72: no prob, but I'm afraid I'm running out of ideas. I haven't worked with nvidia stuff in years, but that would be my first try - to re-install those drivers.06:21
rr72i  thought i did reinstall06:21
rr72since they where rc06:21
LeeJunFanrr72: you apt-get installed them after that?06:22
rr72yeah but they were already installed06:22
LeeJunFanso if you dpkg -l | grep restricted you see ii now?06:22
rr72yeah06:22
rr72but i rememebr dl the driver from nvidia site one time06:23
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flaccid__i have a question. how do i turn off power saving on the ethernet nic ?06:23
LeeJunFanokay, but the kernel still has the messed up ones loaded perhaps. I'm not sure which ones to rmmod so rebooting now may help to get it to reload the newly installed modules.06:23
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rr72hm LeeJunFan now it asks me to log into tty1 and the nvidia screen didnt flash06:26
rr72no screens found06:27
rr72i think my xorg is messed up now06:28
LeeJunFanrr72: it's still something to do with that driver/module. damn.06:29
rr72and this i think is why i didnt do it this way06:29
rr72(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure06:29
LeeJunFanrr72: maybe reconfiguring xorg, but then it's probably not going to try to load the nvidia driver w/o changing the driver name in xorg.conf.06:29
rr72Please consult the NVIDIA README for details.06:30
rr72lol06:30
rr72EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.06:30
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rr72so yeah i think it does have to do with module06:30
Lord_AthurI use kubuntu + edubuntu-desktop, but some sub-menus of the edubuntu programs are in English in the kde menu,How do I make an specification about it in order to show that the language of the menu application is the wrong one?06:32
rr72could a restart/power outage done this?06:32
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LeeJunFanrr72: possibly, but rare.06:33
LeeJunFanrr72: unless you are running reiserfs, then it's not so unlikely.06:33
rr72ext306:33
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LeeJunFanrr72: I guess I'd follow the docs from start to finish on nvidia install and make sure everything is good.06:35
LeeJunFanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:35
LeeJunFanI don't know what else to suggest.06:36
flaccid__yeah so anyone can help with me disabling power management on my nic?06:36
rr72how do i get my bookmarsk from firefox? i have a link i want06:36
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rr72flaccid__~ google ur model number with disabling power?06:36
LeeJunFanrr72: they should be in your home dir in .firefox or .mozilla dir.06:36
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rr72is there a boot screen for ur nic? some have em and u can change stuff06:37
schmakki have both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed and i dont really need gnome anymore.. is there some (easy) way to remove gnome and whatever stuff associated?06:37
LeeJunFanrr72: .mozilla/firefox/default...06:37
LeeJunFanschmakk: remove libgnome perhaps. all the gnome apps should rely on that and get removed as well.06:38
schmakkLeeJunFan: im not completely sure about how this works, but will that break GTK stuff as well?06:38
schmakkor am i talking about the same thing06:38
LeeJunFanschmakk: no, gnome depends on gtk, but gtk apps like gimp don't necessarily rely on gnome.06:39
schmakkspiffy06:39
schmakkill see what i get06:39
LeeJunFanschmakk: yeah, just pay attention to what else it says it's going to remove.06:40
schmakkthat was my plan =)06:40
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schmakkman, now i wish synaptic had a way of showing the describtion of packages within the "this will also get removed" box06:41
schmakkalso.. is there a way to make every oss app get wrapped by arts by default?06:43
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schmakksomething along making a dummy /dev/dsp device that reroutes to arts or alsa...06:46
farousschmakk: did you tray alsa-oss06:46
farousnever tried it through a device wrapper though06:47
rr72LeeJunFan~ want to help me tomorrow? its midnight and im going to bed06:47
schmakki messed a little with it, but i never got it working well.. i havnt got a lot of desktop linux experience though, and i dont really understand the linux sound system yet06:48
mdkaneda0having a slight issue i need help with. I'm dualbooting WinXP and Kubuntu, i had to reinstall windows XP, and i lost my grub bootloader. searched around for a way to reinstall grub to the mbr, but i cant seem to get a restore disc working. any tips on how to use restore disc so i can install grub??06:48
Hobbsee!grub06:48
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:48
LeeJunFanrr72: yeah, if I'm around. Don't know what else I can do though.06:49
rr72i know just who to ask too but he is never on06:49
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MilhousePunkRockWhat are the disadvantages of using APM over ACPI?06:52
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flaccidis there a param i can put in /etc/network/interfaces to disable power management on an interface ie. my eth007:00
schmakkLeeJunFan: if you dont mind me asking, should i worry about removing hal-device-manager, hwdb-client, bonobo (various packages) and update-notifier?07:02
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LeeJunFanschmakk: no, those would be okay.07:03
schmakknice, then this seems to work.. for any left over stuff, is it possible in some way to view packages that has no dependants installed on the system?07:04
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LeeJunFanschmakk: there is, but I don't remember the package that does that.07:06
schmakkLeeJunFan: oki, thanks for your help =)07:06
LeeJunFanschmakk: perhaps if you ask in #ubuntu someone there will know. I want to say it's dpkgaudit or some such thing.07:07
schmakkill try that07:07
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Hobbseeflaccid: no idea, if there is, it should be in man interfaces07:08
flaccidthanks07:09
HobbseeLeeJunFan: it's not apt-cache rdepends foo, is it - that does it over all the packages, not just the installed ones07:09
LeeJunFanHobbsee: I was just wondering that myself. I remember whoever told me gave me 2 package names to use.07:10
LeeJunFandeborphan07:11
Hobbseeah...i sthat it...07:11
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Hobbseehi bimberi_07:11
bimberi_hey Hobbsee07:11
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Hobbseehaha07:12
HobbseeLeeJunFan: i just put it under "it's development, something else has fubar'd"07:13
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MilhousePunkRockI cant seem to get ACPI working properly on my Laptop, is it recommendable to step back to APM?07:15
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schmakkLeeJunFan: so deporphan does what i asked about?07:17
LeeJunFanschmakk: yes07:17
schmakkawesome, thanks07:17
LeeJunFanschmakk: gtkorphan is a gtk interface to deborphan to make it simpler too.07:18
schmakkLeeJunFan: ill take a look at it, once this old box finishes removing gnome packages07:18
LeeJunFanHobbsee: libarts-akode1 -- how old is that? :) That was pre-breezy I think.07:19
HobbseeLeeJunFan: where's that?07:19
LeeJunFanHobbsee: on my system still.07:19
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HobbseeLeeJunFan: did you ever have debian on there?  p.u.c couldnt fin dit07:20
LeeJunFanHobbsee: no, that was an old lib I think Riddell built for testing a kde release.07:21
HobbseeLeeJunFan: ahh...right...that would make sense07:21
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LeeJunFanI bet I still have remnants in my $HOME from redhat V2 or some such thing from 1995 or 6.07:22
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marcushi how do i tell klibido to start grabbing binaries from usenet?07:25
marcusi figured out how to subscribe and update the newsgroups but not how to grab the binaries07:26
schmakkhow does kdm against gdm? for some reason, gdm seems to be a tad more flexible07:29
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schmakkor put another way, does gdm do anything kdm cant?07:30
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MilhousePunkRockI can't get ACPI to work properly, when I resume from Suspend to RAM neither mouse nor keyboard work...07:32
bobbyyuHey, my Adept is still showing problems. When it finishes installing packages, it doesn't install, saying "commit will break packages or something"07:32
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MilhousePunkRockI found some fix for that for FreeBSD, does someone know something similar that will work in Kubuntu (Dapper 6.06 Kernel 2.6.15.26)07:34
MilhousePunkRockDoes anyone know something like this ( --> http://www.iosn.net/Members/kaeru/articles/freebsd/x40 --> Suspend and Resume --> "Hint" for the mouse") for Kubuntu?07:44
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MilhousePunkRockI would like to create a menu similar to that "system menu" on the kicker. How can I do that?07:47
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LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: I have a problem like that with my touchpad (somtimes) if I suspend and resume again it comes back.07:48
MilhousePunkRockAre you using APM or ACPI?07:48
LeeJunFanacpi07:48
Hobbseewhatever kpowersave uses :P07:48
MilhousePunkRockIt seems to be a common problem... But all I found was either "ACPI does not work. Period." or "ACPI is working"07:48
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MilhousePunkRockI would have loved to find something like: Mouse and Keyboard did not work after resuming. I did this and that to fix it.07:49
MilhousePunkRockAFAIK KPowersave uses ACPI07:50
MilhousePunkRockI've been told this is an X problem... But #xorg is far less lively than #kubuntu07:50
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MilhousePunkRockI can restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace07:51
MilhousePunkRockbut those seem to be the only keys that work07:51
MilhousePunkRockand it's no use, I want to go on where I stopped when I suspend... Otherwise I might as well power down and reboot07:51
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MilhousePunkRockWhat about the little menu I want to create? Anyone got any ideas?07:53
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noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, kmenuedit07:56
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, it will add to K menu also07:56
MilhousePunkRockNegative noiesmo, I don't want to edit the K-Menu, I want to add an additional menu to the "taksbar". Like the "system menu" (which might be called differently in English)07:58
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: afaik, the trick is to add your custom menu to kmenu08:01
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: then rt. click on the panel -> Add application... -> Add this menu08:01
abattoirThen remove it from kmenu08:01
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: tbh, i havent tried this... so tell me if it works :P08:02
abattoirespecially the third part08:02
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, as abattoir has said above thats what I would do to08:03
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vinboyi use KDE, how do I change Evince's background color?08:03
MilhousePunkRockSounds promising!08:04
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hehe, as i said in theory it does, tell me if it works :)08:04
MilhousePunkRockSimilar to how I create shortcuts on the bar...08:04
MilhousePunkRockI make a desktop shortcut and move it to the bar, as I did not find an option to change the icon for a "direct bar shortcut"08:05
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i cant try it myself as i have a 'custom'(you guys would call it weird ;) setup... i dont want to mess w/ it :)08:05
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abattoirbleh, wth, i tried... it works08:06
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abattoirvinboy: maybe someone at #ubuntu would know08:09
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intelikeya "Cannot open /dev/fb0." error.   any clue why ?08:09
abattoirvinboy: else you can use konqueror :P ... which is that... and more. :P08:09
Dodgerdoes anyone else here have the problem of kubuntu not keeping the network settings configured in the control panel?08:10
vinboyi was referred to here from #ubuntu08:10
vinboylol08:10
MilhousePunkRockHamm, abattoir, I did that, but it doesn't seem to save it08:10
MilhousePunkRockintelikey: Not mounted properly?08:10
Dodgeri've set eth0 to not enable on startup several times, but it keeps coming back up on reboot08:10
MilhousePunkRockNot hamm, hmm that is, abattoir08:10
abattoirvinboy: hehe, its a GNOME app, so i guess it defines its own bg stuff (unless it inherits from gtk-qt engine)08:11
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: you mean after you log out... or after you delete the Kmenu entry?08:11
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hehe, the nick reminds you of Ham ?08:12
MilhousePunkRockImmediately... So I have to relogin to activate it?08:12
abattoirhmmm... too many hehe s08:12
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MilhousePunkRockNah, it was more like the "thinking sound" in German08:12
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: nothing like that... it doesnt even show up?08:12
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock fb  mounted ?08:12
MilhousePunkRockHam would be nice though...08:12
intelikeywhat am i missing ?08:12
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MilhousePunkRocklol intelikey, I read fd and thought you referred to a floppy drive08:13
noiesmointelikey, you root or sudo to access floppy08:13
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: you see it in the kicker once you add it right... and then when does it disappear(doesnt get saved) ?08:13
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock FB  not FD  :)08:13
intelikeynoiesmo ^08:13
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Negative... I did save though08:13
noiesmointelikey, yeah just seen08:13
MilhousePunkRockand I opened Kmenuedit with sudo08:14
intelikeylet me repost.  a "Cannot open /dev/fb0." error.   any clue why ?08:14
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: oh, you mean in the Kmenu? ok, then might be worth a re-login08:14
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, is this for all users or just the current on08:14
noiesmoon one08:14
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MilhousePunkRockI only have one user here08:14
MilhousePunkRockI'll restart X, BRB08:14
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noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, ok dont sudo kmenedit just kmenuedit should do it08:15
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abattoirnoiesmo: he'll be back ;)08:15
noiesmo:)08:15
abattoiri missed the sudo bit :(08:15
abattoirelse would have warned him earlier08:15
noiesmoi've seen him here a few times08:15
abattoiryeah, me too08:15
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intelikeyyeah jan is here a lot the last few days08:16
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abattoirwelcome back Jan :D08:16
MilhousePunkRockThx08:17
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, dont use sudo with kmenuedit08:17
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: you dont need to use sudo08:17
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: ...since you are only editing the menu for your own user08:17
moparisthebestis there a way to low level format a harddrive from linux?08:17
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, all your users kde settings are generallly in /your/homefolder/.kde08:17
MilhousePunkRockWeird... It does not show up in the Kmenu, but it's listed in Kmenuedit08:18
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, abattoir is that the kubuntu-desktop doing that08:18
abattoirnoiesmo: you mean kubuntu-default-settings?08:18
noiesmoyes08:18
noiesmothats08:18
noiesmoit08:18
abattoirhmmm, dont think so...08:19
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: you added it only now?08:19
abattoiror was it from the previous session?08:19
noiesmodont they like rule the kmenu08:19
abattoirnoiesmo: could be though...08:19
MilhousePunkRockI wanted to re-add it after I restarted X08:19
MilhousePunkRockAnd now it created "Programme-2" and shows the first one08:19
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: so you added it to the normal a/c before logging out?08:20
MilhousePunkRocka/c?08:20
abattoiraccount :)08:20
MilhousePunkRockno08:20
MilhousePunkRockthat was done with sudo08:20
MilhousePunkRocknow I am doing it as user08:20
abattoiraah, then it might come into effect only after a re-login08:20
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, do it without sudo what happens08:21
MilhousePunkRockDo I need a description or comment?08:21
noiesmoabattoir, the sudo one i think will be any new users08:21
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, no08:21
abattoirnoiesmo: might be or for root itself08:21
MilhousePunkRockRight now it's just a submenu with a name...08:21
abattoiri think the latter08:22
noiesmoabattoir, should affect the skel folder i'd thought08:22
abattoirnoiesmo: skel?08:22
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noiesmo/etc/skel is like skeleton profile if you like08:22
abattoirnoiesmo: i'd except it to go to /root/.kde....08:22
abattoirnot sure...08:23
intelikeyplain sudo kmenuedit should only affect the executing user.   the only danger is that it might set root perms on a user config file.08:23
intelikeysudo -i on the other hand would affect root unless something krazy is going on.08:23
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MilhousePunkRockStill negative08:24
noiesmoI reakon he might need to remove  kubuntu-default-settings first08:24
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abattoirok, let me try it out08:25
abattoirit works fine for me08:26
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MilhousePunkRockweird08:26
abattoirdont even need to log out08:26
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MilhousePunkRockWhat am I doing wrong?08:26
abattoirok, here's what i did...08:26
abattoiropened kmenuedit Created a new submenu, added a couple of blank entries08:26
abattoirand saved it, got an Updating System Configuration progress bar08:27
MilhousePunkRockMaybe it does not show up cause it's empty here?08:27
abattoiropened Kmenu, and it was there08:27
intelikeyconsole user in the house ?08:27
MilhousePunkRockI got that bar too though... Something must have happened, since it's listed in kmenuedit08:27
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: maybe try putting some blank stuff in08:27
MilhousePunkRockThere you go, I did one Test entry and it's there...08:28
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: good :)08:29
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MilhousePunkRockThx abattoir!08:34
MilhousePunkRockTo bad I cant just move things in there though08:34
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: np :)08:34
abattoirDnD doesnt work?08:34
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MilhousePunkRockNot from the bar itself... I created shortcuts for Fx and Konversation there already08:35
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abattoiroh, ok08:37
alex_kubuntn no shurufa08:38
MilhousePunkRockHmm, all the shortcuts I copied and pasted from their original menus now have a -208:39
abattoiralex_: ???08:40
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: -2?08:41
intelikeyany console users in the house ?08:41
MilhousePunkRockLike "Konversation-2"08:42
aegeanlinux!offtopic4offtopic08:42
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abattoir>>Always on topic, the weather, GNOME and how kewl it is<<08:43
abattoirhehe08:43
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: maybe its trying to avoid duplication08:43
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abattoirwouldnt be hard to change it would it?08:44
abattoir;)08:44
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MilhousePunkRockProbably... Doesn't matter, I renamed them anyway... For my taste, name and description need to be the other way around08:47
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MilhousePunkRockWell, or not.. But that does not matter much...08:49
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MilhousePunkRockNow that's a neat kicker...08:50
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MilhousePunkRockNext step, giving the desktop a really geeky look...08:50
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MilhousePunkRockTransparency and stuff...08:51
MilhousePunkRockAny suggestions? Should look cool but still be useable, especially on my system with 256 MB RAM and 16 MB Video RAM08:51
abattoirhehe, shouldnt be hard :)08:51
abattoirsome superkaramba stuff?08:51
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MilhousePunkRockThat would come after it, a nice "monitor" for the Laptop specific stuff, namely WLAN, battery and speed stepping08:52
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MilhousePunkRockPrior to any experiments with transparency I would need to know how to back up the current settings, so I can roll back easily08:53
abattoirso then suggestions for what?08:53
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: for kicker related stuff?08:53
MilhousePunkRockA theme with transparency, geeky but readable font...08:54
abattoirby theme what do you mean? a windeco?08:54
MilhousePunkRockFor what Windows used to call "Desktop theme"08:54
MilhousePunkRockyeah08:54
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: you can make any windeco transparent08:54
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: for eg. i use the default crystal which ships w/ Kubuntu08:54
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abattoiri've changed the colour from blue to black... so it has a more glassy effect08:55
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MilhousePunkRockI think I saw that somewhere in the settings, but is there an easy way to back up how it is now (by default), other than writing down all the settings=08:55
MilhousePunkRock?08:55
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmmm, it wont be that back to revert... but i'm not sure.. maybe some kwin rc file08:56
abattoirfor the kicker i'm pretty much sure its ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc08:56
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abattoir*wont be that 'hard' to revert08:56
MilhousePunkRockOn the other hand, I can always boot live again and look up all the settings there...08:56
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i dont think its that hard to change your settings back08:57
abattoiresp. stuff like windeco/kicker config08:57
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MilhousePunkRockOK, the kicker is transparent now09:05
MilhousePunkRockHow do I make the menu background transparent?09:05
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: Kcontrol -> Appearance and Themes -> Style -> Effects -> Menu Effects -> Make Translucent09:09
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MilhousePunkRockNice...09:13
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MilhousePunkRockSeems like green is not a popular color in KDE...09:16
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MilhousePunkRockOk, how can I make the grey area inside the windows a little transparent?09:36
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MilhousePunkRockCrystal does not offer many options here...09:37
Ademanam i nuts trying to get xubuntu running on a 300mhz 96mb ram computer?09:38
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crimsunAdeman: no09:40
MilhousePunkRockHow far did you get, Ademan?09:40
MilhousePunkRockShould be good enough for xubuntu09:40
MilhousePunkRockI am looking for a window decoration similar to Crystal, that let's me adjust the transparency09:41
Ademanwell, i had to redo my xorg.conf and i was able to startx, but after that it really didn't do anything, the bottom panel came in, that's it... then it froze (this is from the livecd)09:42
MilhousePunkRockThat could be due to 96 MB being not enough to run it live...09:43
Ademansounds reasonable09:44
Ademanso then how should i go about installing?09:44
Ademanshould i get the oem installer?09:44
Ademaninstall minus gnome09:44
Ademanand then install xfce?09:44
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MilhousePunkRockXubuntu comes with xfce by default AFAIK, thus the X09:46
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: which grey area? What sort of options are you looking at?09:46
MilhousePunkRockFor example here in Konversation, the top menu and the channel tabs on the bottom09:47
abattoirAdeman: oem installer ?09:47
MilhousePunkRockThe alternate CD might be a good choice, Ademan, if ther is one for Xu09:47
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i dont know what theme you are running... but do you want to make the entire window translucent?09:47
MilhousePunkRockThe theme I now have is Crystal09:48
MilhousePunkRockBut that does not give many option on translucency...09:48
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MilhousePunkRockIf possible, I would like to have the "white text area" (e.g here in Konversation) to remain white, but have everthing around a little see-through09:49
AdemanMilhousePunkRock: i've been downloading the alternate install for regular ubuntu... i didnt even bother checking xubuntu for one, but maybe i should09:50
MilhousePunkRockMaybe I should browse KDElook.org a little, abattoir...09:50
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krautmoin09:57
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GentooWithKDE34.png is an eg. of a translucent window09:57
Ademani've always wondered, gnome apps are very partialed to gtk, do kde apps have a "native" API? is it Qt?09:57
abattoirAdeman: yes primarily qt, but there are special qt-based KDE-specific classes09:58
Ademani've always thought Qt was very commercially oriented... isnt that kinda anti-open source?09:59
abattoirAdeman: nope, they have a dual-licensing policy09:59
abattoirthey->Trolltech, the company which makes Qt10:00
Ademanwell right, they've got that free for non commercial right? but Qt itself is closed source isnt it?10:00
wolfmanzok what else can i break hmmmm10:02
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wolfmanzabattoir dont you sleep?10:03
abattoirwolfmanz: lol10:03
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: What about this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/39822-1.jpg10:03
crimsunAdeman: it's open-source.10:04
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: yup, he has the entire window(active/inactive) set to be translucent10:04
abattoiror even she :)10:05
wolfmanzwasnt there some sticking issues to QT at one time?10:05
crimsunwolfmanz: yes, that was prior to the relicensing (-> dual)10:05
MilhousePunkRockI guess what I am looking for is not possible...10:05
crimsunwolfmanz: basically it wasn't included in Debian until that was resolved.10:05
abattoirwolfmanz: one of the reasons GNOME was born10:06
wolfmanzi'm waitting for windows to go open source :D10:06
wolfmanzdo any of you guys ever see a day where some linux distro will unseat windows from the desktop ?10:07
MilhousePunkRockIs there a kdelook IRC channel?10:08
abattoirwolfmanz: you mean rid windows of its majority market share?10:08
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wolfmanzabattoir yes10:08
abattoirwolfmanz: that's Malone Bug 110:08
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: not afaik10:08
MilhousePunkRockProbably not, wolfmanz, since M$ is in bed with all the major PC makers10:08
abattoirhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/110:08
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: show me your desktop after you are done :P10:10
wolfmanzabbattoir they may have the strangle hold on linux now but i think that will change in the future microsoft is slowly screwing it self with things like the DRM stuff its trying to get into vista and the like10:10
MilhousePunkRockMaybe I can tweak my apps to be the way I want them... Is there a color code for transparency?10:11
abattoirwolfmanz: i'm not getting tempted... crim*sun has already appeared in my nightmares :P, come to #kubuntu-offtopic , we'll have an extensive discussion there :)10:11
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: what do you mean? for windeco? choose the colour you want... and then adjust the translucency10:12
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MilhousePunkRockBut Crystal only has "Transparency enabled"10:13
MilhousePunkRockno means to adjust the value, like I could do it for the kicker10:13
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: Kcontrol -> Appearance... -> Colours -> choose window active/inactive title colours10:14
MilhousePunkRockI found that, but it does not have transparency there, abattoir...10:15
MilhousePunkRockIt's digital... 1 or 0, on or off...10:15
abattoirset the colour there, transperancy where you saw earlier10:15
abattoir1-on 0 off10:15
MilhousePunkRockIt would be "window background"... but there is no transparency, unless there is a color code for it, which I doubt10:16
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MilhousePunkRockI wonder why there is no option, it does work fine for the menus...10:17
MilhousePunkRockCrystal does only concern the window title, does it?10:18
viviersfhow do you change the color of the kmenu side image ?10:19
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schmakkif i want to make sure i have everything that a base kubuntu install has, which of the meta packages do i have to install?10:21
abattoirschmakk: kubuntu-desktop10:22
schmakknothing else? none of the other ubuntu-* packages at all?10:23
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schmakkoh well, i though it was divided into at least two packages10:27
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schmakkim gonna try here too.. i did dpkg-reconfigure debconf and set frontend to kde, it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1875810:32
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hardw1remorning10:32
schmakkmornin10:33
flowmorning10:33
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hardw1rei need some advice, what do i need to a) get a hp usb scanner working, and b) what scanning software is there for ubuntu?10:34
MilhousePunkRockThis might be helpful abattoir: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Xorg_X11_and_Transparency10:35
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abattoirhardw1re: might be recognised in kcontrol... kooka is the Scan+OCR tool10:36
hardw1rewell on boot up i do see a "HP printing and scanning services" or something like that is setup/loaded10:37
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MilhousePunkRockHow can I determine which version on X I have?10:38
hardw1rehmm i click select scanner devices in the kooka menu but nothing happens10:39
schmakkcheck the package you have installed10:39
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: 'apt-cache policy xserver-xorg'10:39
abattoirhardw1re: did you set it up in Kcontrol/systemsettings?10:39
hardw1reno idea10:40
hardw1reprobably not yet10:40
hardw1rewheres Kcontrol?10:41
MilhousePunkRockOK, it's X 7.00 but composite does not work on my machine... Probably too much to ask for on 16 MB Video RAM10:42
hardw1reit doesnt list scanners under the peripherals section in Kcontrol10:42
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: sorry, didnt look at the link, but you put enabled it in xorg.conf?10:43
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MilhousePunkRockyeah, but it crashes on start10:43
Steven_do any of you use bittorrent-gui?10:44
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: X crashes or KDE does ?10:44
MilhousePunkRockOnly the composite manager10:44
MilhousePunkRockTells me it shut down twice in one minute and will be disabled...10:44
MilhousePunkRockAnd now what I added to the xorg.conf is gone again10:45
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: aah, in KDE ?10:45
MilhousePunkRockyes10:45
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: ok, then make sure you put that stuff down in xorg.conf10:45
MilhousePunkRockI put it in again...10:46
MilhousePunkRockRestarting X now?10:46
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: wait...10:47
hardw1rewhat do i need to do to get the kernel src?10:47
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmm, you put the stuff in the gentoo wiki?10:47
MilhousePunkRockyes... says it should work for various distros...10:48
MilhousePunkRockThis step is very simple (and holds true for any linux distro).10:48
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i put something different... dont know if it matters though10:49
MilhousePunkRockwhat was it for you?10:49
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i put the same stuff which comes in the KDE Error message on startup10:49
abattoirwell, only trivial difference...10:50
abattoiri have 'Enable' instead of 'true'10:51
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necorageholap10:53
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MilhousePunkRockUnlikely that that makes a difference, isnt it?11:03
hardw1redo i need to re-configure usb if im using USB hubs to connect everything to the usb ports of the computer?11:07
Healotnay... hardw1re11:08
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hardw1recause my usb devices seem to fail to work11:08
Healotwhat kind of usb device?11:09
hardw1reex: [  947.192190]  usb 4-3.4: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 13 [  947.234385]  usb 4-3.4: device descriptor read/64, error -3211:09
hardw1rewell the logitech quickcam messenger, and im sure it cant seem to find the HP usb scanner11:10
Healotare you sure?11:10
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hardw1reyeah, infact i cant even see a scanner setup peripheral in Kcontrol11:10
MilhousePunkRockTwo options, abattoir: Either I dont have the composite manager installed or my card is not supported... :-(11:10
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Healotlsusb output, hardw1re?11:11
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hardw1reis there a paste bin to paste into ?11:11
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richardsalut11:13
richarda parle franais ici ?11:13
Healot!fr11:14
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:14
MilhousePunkRockLooks like I might be lucky, abattoir, seems xcompmgr was not installed11:14
richardthanks11:14
hardw1reHealot: is there a paste bin i can use?11:15
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Healot!pastebin11:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:18
hardw1rety11:19
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hardw1rehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1876011:20
hardw1rekonquest is so addictive11:20
Healotdutch11:20
hardw1rewho?11:21
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Healotlsusb -vv >> hehe11:21
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HealotBus 004 Device 004: ID 03f0:2405 Hewlett-Packard >> btw, this is printer maybe?11:22
hardw1rescanner11:22
hardw1reprinter is on parralell port11:23
hardw1reand works fine11:23
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hardw1rei just cant find where to setup the scanner though11:24
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Healothohoho11:26
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Healotyou need (in)sane(ity)11:27
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MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Now it's working... Awfully slow but working...11:32
MilhousePunkRockI wish there was a perfectly tailored driver for my video chip11:33
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MilhousePunkRockAlthough I guess there is not much to expect from 16 MB Video RAM11:34
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helpplzark gives me an error :( could not start sub process?11:34
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MilhousePunkRockAbbatoir... Looks like I am done...11:44
hardw1reweird, looks like one of the hubs aint working... hmm maybe i acciedently unplugged it the other day :|11:46
wolfmanzIS it safe to a full upgrade using adept?11:51
Healothardw1re: to work with scanners, you need (in)sane(ity) and its frontend :-11:53
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Teejay_wphi I am editing a file using nano on the xterminal and I am wondering the command to save the changes in the file11:58
Teejay_wpsorry konsole11:58
HealotCtrl+X12:01
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Teejay_wpty12:01
Healotwhen asked to saved, press Y12:01
hardw1rewhy are quickcam12:01
hardw1re's such a pain in the ass to deal with12:02
Healotthey are proprietary wares12:02
hardw1reive almost got it working12:02
Healotbtw creative quickcam has linux driver12:02
hardw1rewell i have the driver for mine12:02
hardw1reand stuff12:02
hardw1reqc-usb-messenger-1.312:03
hardw1reits just i have to use my brain to get it to work and thats just wrong lol12:03
hardw1redo i need to restart now that i've installed sane ?12:03
Healotno need to restart12:04
hardw1rehmm i think i shall though12:04
Healotjust run the frontend or sane from terminal X12:04
MilhousePunkRockDid abattoir pass out in the meantime?12:05
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MilhousePunkRockIs there a way to tell my video card to use some of the system memory?12:05
Healotthank god HP scanners are supported out the box by sane12:05
Healoti think that linux kernel does that automagically12:06
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: heh, was away... working?12:07
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MilhousePunkRockIndeed, abattoir... Both MacOS and Vista can go home now...12:08
crazy_penguinhi all!12:08
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: lol12:08
MilhousePunkRockIf it only was faster, it's so slow it's almost unuseable... But it looks goddamn pretty...12:08
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: it might be slow if you have shadows/full window trasparency on12:09
MilhousePunkRockI could get rid of the shadows...12:09
crazy_penguinplease someone tell me how can i make konsole transparent. i tried the transparent scheme but nothing happens12:09
MilhousePunkRockLOL crazy_penguin...12:09
crazy_penguinsame problem?12:09
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: on my old system, P3 w/ 128MB ram(4mb integrated card), translucent windec works pretty fast12:09
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abattoircrazy_penguin: transparent konsole doesnt work?12:10
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MilhousePunkRockI'll turn off the shadows now12:10
crazy_penguinabattoir: no12:10
crazy_penguini want to use it with irssi12:10
abattoircrazy_penguin: it is pseudo-transparency only though12:10
MilhousePunkRockcrazy_penguin: Look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7552712:10
abattoircrazy_penguin: Settings -> Schema -> Transparent konsole right?12:11
crazy_penguinok12:11
crazy_penguinabattoir: yes12:11
crazy_penguinMilhousePunkRock: thx12:11
MilhousePunkRockYou need to install and enable the Composite Manager12:11
abattoircrazy_penguin: and that doesnt show your wallpaper ?12:11
crazy_penguinno12:11
MilhousePunkRockAfter that, do what abattoir said, and it should work12:11
crazy_penguinok12:11
crazy_penguini will try12:11
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crazy_penguinthx a lot :)12:12
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: what he wants is something different12:12
abattoircrazy_penguin: wait a sec...12:12
MilhousePunkRockYes and no, abattoir... I tried the transparent console, wouldn't work without composite12:12
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abattoircrazy_penguin: ok, nvm, if you h/w supports it there's nothing wrong in having a fully transparent konsole :)12:12
hardw1reanyone know where i can get software for a nokia 6280 ?12:12
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crazy_penguinok12:13
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crazy_penguinthx again for the help12:13
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: transparent konsole thing is pseudo-transparency, it just grabs the wallpaper in the region and sets it as the bg12:13
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: anyways, show me a screenshot :)12:13
Healothardw1re: nokia.com :)12:14
MilhousePunkRockHow do I take one with Kubuntu? Preferably in png or jpeg already...12:14
abattoirhardw1re: that's series 40...12:14
abattoirhardw1re: so any J2ME software should work12:14
MilhousePunkRockI need to remind that IT friend of mine to start developing his "one click screenshot to imageshack" app he once thought about...12:15
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: ksnapshot12:15
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: doesnt it come up w/ PrntScrn ?12:15
buzabattoir: not for me12:15
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buzbut im sure one could set it like that somehow12:15
abattoirbuz: ugh... who are 'you'? :S12:16
abattoirand what doesnt work? :)12:16
buzksnapshot with printscreen12:16
abattoirbuz: aah, ok... i thought you were someone who had /nick ed12:16
abattoirbuz: you can set it though12:17
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abattoirbuz: in kcontrol12:17
buzoh what module?12:17
abattoirbuz: on a laptop by any chance?12:17
buzyes12:17
buznever tried it on my desktop though12:17
abattoirbuz: Regional & Accesibility->Keyboard shortcuts12:17
buzi should have guessed12:17
abattoirbuz: command shortcuts12:18
buzyeah12:18
buzfound it12:18
buzwoah thats really a neat idea ;)12:18
buzworks like a charm even on the notebook12:19
abattoirbuz: should work out of the box in edgy, there is a team working on it :)12:19
hardw1rehmm xsane is trying to use my logitech camera as the scanner instead of the actual scanner...12:19
buzshould be much more than an entry in a keymap no?12:19
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MilhousePunkRockabattoir: http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto1xa5.png12:20
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: nice :)12:21
MilhousePunkRockI feel like I am drunk when I look at that shot (translucent) on my own machine with the same stuff in the back...12:22
abattoirhehe12:22
MilhousePunkRockAnd yes, it does come up by default with Prnt-Scrn...12:23
MilhousePunkRockDidn't know that, never used it before12:23
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmm, you seem to be on a laptop... too12:23
MilhousePunkRockThat's another thing Winblows could learn... Taking screenshots there is a PITA12:23
MilhousePunkRockIndeed I am, my (2nd) big love, IBM ThinkPad T2312:24
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: maybe because people there have nothing to show off :P12:24
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: most people rarely even change the default wallpaper12:24
abattoiror if they change anything, its only that12:24
MilhousePunkRockThat always used to be the first thing I did...12:24
MilhousePunkRockI changed the KDE splash screen, in the system settings... Will that effect the log-in screen too or do I have to change that seperately somewhere else?12:25
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: get soome superkaramba stuff in :)12:25
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: no, the login screen is different12:25
abattoirthose are KDM/GDM themes12:25
abattoirkde-look.org is a treasure trove filled w/ all those stuff12:26
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hardw1re>_<12:27
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hardw1rei hate this scanner12:27
abattoirhardw1re: you installed it through Kcontrol/system settings?12:27
hardw1rei cant even see a scanner tab in the system settings12:28
hardw1reits there as a usb device, i've installed sane/xsane hplip etc etc etc and nothing12:28
abattoirhardw1re: i could have sworn that i saw a scanner settings option somewhere12:30
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abattoirhardw1re: kooka doesnt recognise it at startup?12:30
hardw1rehardware - Keyboard | Mouse | Joystick | Printers | Laptop & Power | Digital Cameras | Display | Storage Media12:31
hardw1renope, instead its seeing my webcam and setting that up as teh scanner12:31
hardw1rehmmm i must of missed something in the quickcam driver compilation, the webcam doesnt seem to be working properly (yet)12:33
hardw1rehmmm how do i actually set the su password? cause the quickcam config needs the SU password12:35
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aegeanlinuxhardw1re: sudo passwd12:37
aegeanlinuxor sudo su12:37
aegeanlinuxthen passwd ;)12:37
hardw1reyeah i did12:38
hardw1rei rememberd :P12:38
hardw1renah this is still failing12:38
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aegeanlinuxkk ;)12:38
hardw1re!pastebin12:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:38
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chemajaaegeanlinux: yo12:39
aegeanlinuxhey chemaja12:39
hardw1rehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1876512:40
aegeanlinuxhardw1re:12:42
aegeanlinux        mknod device: c 81 device:12:42
aegeanlinux        chmod a+rw device:12:42
aegeanlinuxtried that?12:42
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hardw1remknod device: c 81 device:12:43
hardw1remknod: invalid minor device number `device:'12:43
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MilhousePunkRockWhat Laptop are you using, abattoir? I am yet to meet someone who got suspend and resume working properly12:44
hardw1reling night?12:44
hardw1reits 11.44 am :P12:44
aegeanlinuxlong12:44
aegeanlinuxits 8:44 pm12:44
aegeanlinuxactually12:44
hardw1rei know i got this camera working before on the hoary version of ubuntu12:44
hardw1rebut i just cant remember what i did back then to get it working lol12:44
hardw1reAGGHH how do i exit out of a flippin' manual...12:45
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: An Acer Aspire 5000.... and suspend/resume work perfectly :P12:47
MilhousePunkRockNow I hate you, abattoir12:47
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abattoirhardw1re: 'q' ?12:47
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hehe12:47
hardw1rebah12:47
MilhousePunkRockDid you do antything to get it done or was it straight out of the box?12:47
hardw1rehmm i think i may have to reconfigure my kernel for ohci/uhci support12:48
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i never really had the need for it... so i just tried it the other day, and guess what, it worked... :)12:48
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i used to use Mandriva before this... the battery wasnt detected and suspending worked, but not resume...12:48
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: Breezy was similar... but dapper, everything worked out of the box :)12:49
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i'm sure there are docs... what model again? T?12:49
MilhousePunkRockT2312:49
MilhousePunkRockAre you using APM or ACPI?12:50
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i guess you are unlucky... it is 'untested' here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ThinkpadT23-264712:51
abattoirso you dont know conclusively whether it works or not, or what you have to do12:51
abattoirACPI12:51
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MilhousePunkRockI can give you precise symptoms...12:53
MilhousePunkRockTurning off the screen work, will turn back on12:53
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: http://www.williambrownstreet.net/Linux/  might help12:53
MilhousePunkRockSuspending to RAM works, but on resuming, mouse and keyboard are dead (though I can restart X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace)12:54
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abattoiri know its a different model, but these things might be the same across productlines sometimes12:54
MilhousePunkRockHibernating won't work until I set up that special partition12:54
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MilhousePunkRockWell, the X60 is brand new...12:56
MilhousePunkRockI googled like a madman, did not find anthing for a comparable system yet12:56
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: wouldnt hurt to try :P12:56
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abattoirits only adding something to grub... even if your system does not boot, you can remove the entry from grub and then boot12:57
abattoirnot that it'd happen :P ^^^^12:57
MilhousePunkRockI think it's an X related problem...12:57
tommy2k4i made my / too small and now it wont login, so if i format /home and make / bigger from windows will it work fine12:57
MilhousePunkRockBut I could try...12:57
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MilhousePunkRockOh and you were right about the console, it's pseudo-transparent...12:59
MilhousePunkRockI only see the desktop behind it, not the other windows12:59
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MilhousePunkRockHow do I exactly add those boot parameters?01:02
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MilhousePunkRockabattoir: What exactly do I have to add to the menu.lst?01:09
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: add it in the same line as your kernel entry01:22
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abattoiryou should see stuff like 'quiet' or 'splash'01:22
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MilhousePunkRockSo it would be /hda4 in my case?01:22
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: wasnt that what the guide said?01:23
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: that's your swap?01:23
MilhousePunkRockYeah, at least that's flagged Linux swap in fdisk -l01:23
omeowHow do I downgrade zsnes to 1.41? version 1.42 keeps segfaulting.01:23
MilhousePunkRockhda5 it is01:23
MilhousePunkRockWhy do I have hda1, hda2 and hda5 anyway?01:24
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: what do you mean? didnt you partition that?01:24
MilhousePunkRockLet's see if that helps...01:24
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: oh, or it might be that IBM recovery stuff01:25
MilhousePunkRockI let it do that automagically on the installation, but why is it 5 and not 3?01:25
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MilhousePunkRockNope, none of that was ever on it when I got the Laptop (used)01:25
abattoirmight be because its logical01:25
MilhousePunkRockThank the dishonest seller for driving me towards Linux anyway...01:26
abattoirhardw1re: :'( , it still doesnt work?01:26
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hehe, what did he lie to you about?01:26
hardw1reo01:26
hardw1reno*01:26
hardw1rewhen i run xawtv i just get a blue screen01:26
MilhousePunkRockSince he installed a pirated copy of WinXP Pro... :-/01:26
hardw1reand when i run xsane (it uses the webcam instead of the scanner) and it just says failed to load device when i hit scan01:27
MilhousePunkRockI added it, will reboot now to see if it makes any difference...01:27
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: oh, hehe01:27
abattoirhardw1re: what model again?01:27
hardw1refor which the webcam or the scanner?01:28
abattoirhardw1re: scanner01:28
hardw1reHP scanjet 407001:28
hardw1rei've even added it intot the libsane rules01:28
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abattoirhardw1re: for the webcam, you tried the stuff in !webcam ?01:29
abattoir!webcam01:29
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:29
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abattoirhardw1re: 'sane-find-scanner' detects it?01:29
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abattoirhardw1re: you do have hplip installed right?01:32
abattoir!info hplip01:32
ubotuhplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB01:32
hardw1refound USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [hewlett packard] , product=0x2405 [hp scanjet] , chip=RTS8822L-01H) at libusb:004:00601:33
hardw1re  # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by01:33
hardw1re  # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.01:33
hardw1reyeah i do have hplip installed01:33
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abattoirhardw1re: and what does scanimage -L say?01:33
hardw1redevice `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname Logitech QuickCam USB virtual device01:33
MilhousePunkRockDid not help, abattoir, but thx anyway...01:34
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmmm, ok, might work with edgy :)01:34
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hardw1rewhats good for listening to mp3 streams with? ones that understand the .pls extension01:35
MilhousePunkRockSince the guy with that x60 was using the 686 kernel, what is the advantage of that? Right now I am running 386, but a Pentium 3 Mobile is a 686 CPU, isnt it?01:35
MilhousePunkRockhardw1re: vlc probably...01:35
abattoirhardw1re: am not sure if amarok handles .pls, but am sure xmms does01:35
abattoirhardw1re: actually amarok does too, i've heard shoutcast stuff01:36
MilhousePunkRockIs there a way to find out what BIOS I have from the OS?01:36
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: yes, i guess it is optimised for Pentium-class processors, but am not sure if it'd make much of a difference01:36
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmmm i think there is... but i dont know exactly01:37
hardw1re>_< hmm playing and getting no sound01:38
abattoirhardw1re: amarok? you have libxine-extracodecs installed?01:39
abattoirhardw1re: what about xmms?01:39
hardw1rehmmm01:40
hardw1reit is playing01:40
hardw1rebut not very loudly01:40
hardw1restupid 5.1 sound cards01:40
hardw1relol01:40
abattoirsound blaster?01:41
hardw1reaudigy 2 zs01:41
abattoiraah, ok01:41
abattoircreative is probably the only company that i can think of that has managed to deliver quality stuff and prevent serious competition from entering its segment01:42
abattoirin the tech industry, that is01:42
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hardw1reyeah they are ace01:42
abattoirand the sound card market, to be precise01:42
hardw1rethey work nicely on windows :P01:42
abattoirtheir HQ is nice :)01:43
Chris7mashi all01:43
MilhousePunkRockAny other Ideas on the ACPI, abattoir?01:43
MilhousePunkRockhi Chris7mas01:43
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: only resume doesnt work right? stuff like battery monitor,  lid switch, etc. work?01:44
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MilhousePunkRockIt's more of an X problem, I am sure...01:44
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i wonder why you say ACPI then...01:45
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netbrainis it possible to use nautilus as xfce's filemanager?01:45
abattoirnetbrain: i think it is, but you'd be answered better at #xubuntu01:45
MilhousePunkRockBattery Monitor (KPowersave) works fine, switching energy profiles work, turning off the screen works...01:45
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: then i dont think its an ACPI issue.... why do you say that? read it somewhere?01:46
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MilhousePunkRockWell, I am expressing myself a little blurry, admittedly...01:46
netbrainabattoir: thank you01:46
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MilhousePunkRockI call it ACPI problem, since ACPI is power management, and not resuming is related to power management from my point of view01:47
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i'm not very sure, but http://acpi.sf.net might help you01:47
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hardw1rethat got it working, i set amarok to manually use the alsa mixer01:48
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MilhousePunkRockBeen there already... Found nothing helpful so far, but I will look again01:48
hardw1reso it was amarok not streaming to the mixing device01:49
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i just suggested that because i thought it might be useful... if you have already seen it i am not very sure it'll be useful though01:50
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hardw1reok then, now that i got some music to listen too time to get this bast*rd scanner working01:50
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: btw, do you actually *use* suspend/restore or is it a feature that you just want to have for the occasional use?01:50
MilhousePunkRockI found something for FreeBSD on a ThinkPad, there the mouse needed to be restarted too01:50
Tommy2k4i need to delete swap and /home so i can make / bigger, any way to do that without a livecd01:51
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: I use that quite regularly, when I leave the laptop, I close the lid and it suspends... At least that's how I wish it was...01:51
abattoirhardw1re: hehe... but seriously, i'd expect the scanner to work out of the box w/ hplip and kooka, the scanner in my hp all in one did01:51
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmmm... ok01:51
hardw1reyeah well apparently the 4070 isnt so straight forward for linux01:51
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abattoirhardw1re: i wonder what's so different compared to the other models01:52
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MilhousePunkRockIn the #xorg channel noone ever responds, I have been there to ask for help as well...01:53
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hardw1reoh well i think i broke the usb drivers lol01:54
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: would you try and compile the latest version of suspend2 and take all the trouble if it meant resume worked?01:54
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i'm not sure, but maybe you could try that.... wait a sec01:54
vikapialguien habla espaol01:55
hardw1relsusb stops responding, usb devices in the info center stops responding too lol01:55
abattoir!es01:55
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:55
MilhousePunkRockSomeone even suggested compiling a new kernel...01:55
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: yes...01:55
abattoir!info suspend201:56
ubotuPackage suspend2 does not exist in dapper01:56
MilhousePunkRockOnce I have the system set-up completely, I am probably going to that anyway... A tailor made OS... Isn't that what everybody wants?01:56
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: http://www.suspend2.net/ is the page, but if you google, you might find a version for ubuntu01:57
abattoirnot sure if it'll fix the issue though01:57
abattoirremember, Google is your best friend online :P01:57
MilhousePunkRockWell, the first sentence on that page (I did google that the moment you mentioned the package) says it's hibernation01:58
MilhousePunkRockDid I not say I am looking for Suspend to RAM?01:58
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmmm, i'm not sure how that'd work01:59
abattoirafaik, an image of your current system(including ram state i guess) is stored in your harddisk01:59
abattoirthis is reloaded when you boot up02:00
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MilhousePunkRockThat's suspend to disc though02:00
MilhousePunkRockI got mixed up on the names too... Standby, Sleep, Suspend...02:01
MilhousePunkRockI am sure I would get hibernation to work without suspend202:01
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abattoiroh, so you want *sleep* to work?02:01
MilhousePunkRockbut I don't have the special partition I need for it, at least not yet02:01
abattoirall this while i thought it was hibernation....02:02
MilhousePunkRockThe exact term is "Suspend to RAM"02:02
abattoiri thought Suspend/Resume was that02:02
abattoirhmm, that makes sense :)02:02
abattoirok, tbh i havent tried that in my laptop :P02:02
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MilhousePunkRockI thought I was looking for standby first, since that was the name in Windows02:02
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abattoirhmmm, heh, i have no clue about that, never found that useful :P02:04
abattoirok, anyways, i need to go now... catch you later... bye02:04
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hardw1reI HATE HP!!!02:05
hardw1relol02:05
hardw1rethey make a great scanner, that doesnt work out the box on linux02:05
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abattoirhardw1re: chill dude :P02:05
hardw1reand i just cant find any info on it on google02:05
abattoirhardw1re: i'd still suggest looking at getting the usb fixed and try messing around w/ hplib... it should work02:05
hardw1rei also hate my logitech quickcam messenger webcam, cause thats not as straight forward to get working02:05
abattoirhave to go.. hardw1re, MilhousePunkRock, bye :)02:06
hardw1reok02:06
hardw1reseee ya02:06
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MilhousePunkRockCU abattoir02:06
hardw1rei'mma rebootle me thinks02:06
MilhousePunkRockThx for your patience!02:06
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Jack1hiya02:09
danny50010hi02:09
danny50010whats up?02:09
Jack1does anyone know how kmail gets that way configured that it tells me when new mail has arrived?02:09
danny50010nope02:10
danny50010and I think I'm the only one here02:10
danny50010you want to here the craziest thing ever?02:10
KDEfanboywhat's that02:10
danny50010I just picked up a chick from Astralia!02:11
danny50010on the net02:11
danny50010msn02:11
scheuriJack1: it should be possible either giving a tone or a pop up02:11
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KDEfanboyJack1: ya, using kontify02:11
danny50010yeh use that02:11
scheuriJack1: but I am on a german KMail, so I cant really navigate you through the menu02:11
scheuridanny50010: are you okay?02:11
danny50010yeh why?02:11
KDEfanboywow danny well don't be stingy.. share your secrets02:11
danny50010ok02:12
danny50010I went to a hot groups room for romance02:12
scheurioh...my...02:12
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danny50010and I found so chick from aussie02:12
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danny50010got her email02:12
danny50010then emailed her a sexy story that I amde up02:13
scheuriPLEASE go to ubuntu-offtopic for this02:13
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scheurior kubuntu-offtopic02:13
danny50010now I talk to here on msn02:13
danny50010she sends me pics!02:13
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danny50010hold on she's back02:13
jazonanyone in here have access to NetLibrary through their university library?02:14
jazonif you do, i need a favor ... :P02:14
Jack1scheuri say it in german02:15
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Tommy2k4k im in livecd and i got qtparted open and i deleted /home and swap02:15
scheuriJack1: hold on02:15
Tommy2k4but resize on /dev/hda2 ( / ) is disabled02:15
danny50010I'm back02:15
KDEfanboyi occasionally get random hard locks on my kubuntu system.. aside from looking through /var/log.. any other place i can check to try to determine wtf is going on?02:16
aleksiany fin here ?02:17
scheuriJack1: oh my...cant find it myself just now...gimme another minute...so sorry02:17
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Jack1scheuri we can speak in german dont worry02:19
v3ctor!fi02:19
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi02:19
scheuriJack1: if we do so...please change to channel #ubuntu-de or #kubuntu-de02:19
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hardw1rehmm HPLIP seems to only cover multifunction printers that have built in scanners02:21
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mihalccc02:29
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erginselam02:33
ergintrk yokmu ??02:33
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scheuri!tk02:35
ubotuI know nothing about tk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:35
Tommy2k4why would resize on dev/hda2 (/) be disabled in qtparted when booted to livecd02:35
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nacerhi salut02:39
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Tommy2k4http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3365/resizems0.png why is resize disabled02:46
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dj_baggiohttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6692.0;topicseen02:51
dj_baggioany ideas? :)02:51
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hardw1re!systemlog02:58
ubotuI know nothing about systemlog - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:58
hardw1re!system log02:58
ubotuI know nothing about system log - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:58
hardw1rewhere do i find the system log?02:58
v3ctor /var/log/messages02:58
dj_baggioexactly;] 03:00
hardw1rehmm everything seems good, i just cant seem to get an image from my webcam03:00
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hardw1rejust junk03:02
hardw1rei use to get this problem the 1st time i did this last year, and i solved it... but thaaaaaaaaat was a long time ago03:02
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ubuntu_my kubuntu crashed even from livecd :(03:05
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Tommy2k4http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9423/snapshot1hs2.png why wont it let me resize hda203:08
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hardw1reno idea Tommy2k403:14
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beaehil...03:14
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beaehm03:15
beasono nuova anzi nuovissima03:15
beanon  che qulacuno ha un minuto?03:15
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rljhaving some troubles reading some dvd movies. i have libdvdcss2 installed as described in the RestrictedFormats wiki page, and some dvds do indeed play (and i assume they must have css since they're commercial dvd movies) however some do not, especially some bearing the tag "copy protected" on the disc/cover. what does this term mean in context or is it just a buzzword some put on meaning nothing but the normal css?03:17
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rljall discs i've tried have the same region code (2) so i don't think that's the issue03:17
rljusing kaffeine under kubuntu 6.0603:17
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hardw1rewhat about mplayer?03:18
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laDivinahi!!03:18
rljhardw1re: haven't tried so far03:18
rljhardw1re: only kaffeine (which is using xine, right?) so far03:19
rljmaybe i should download vlc and have a go03:19
laDivinahardw1re i'm new...can you help me?03:19
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laDivinapygi????????03:19
pygilaDivina: what's wrong?03:19
laDivinahi pygi!!! pigy is the name of my best friend...incredible03:19
laDivinaehm...pygi i never use linux til now03:20
laDivinaand i think i didn't configure the swap03:20
pygiwhat do you mean by "didn't configure the swap"?03:20
pygiyou havent made a swap partition?03:20
Lynourerlj: just to help others with helping you: what happens when you play the ones you have problems with? Any error messages, anything at all?03:20
laDivinayes i made the partition but03:21
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laDivinahow can i do to be sure that the partition i made is using by the swap?03:21
pygiswap is being used, don't worry about that :)03:21
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laDivina(first of all...thanks a lot for your time!)03:21
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pygilaDivina: don't thank me :P03:22
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pygilaDivina: you can be sure that swap works for you03:22
rljLynoure: kaffeine complains about not being able to read the disc, suggesting the disc might not contain video data or i do not have sufficient privileges to perform the operation03:22
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rljdownloading vlc now anyway. will have a go with that one. after all, libdvdcss is developed by the vlc guys, isn't it?03:23
pygilaDivina: have you configured your system? apt and stuff?03:23
laDivinano...what does it means??03:23
laDivinaapt and stuff...?03:23
v3ctor`swapon -s` will show you what swap devices are being used03:23
pygilaDivina: apt is package manager03:23
pygianyway, please wait a sec :)03:23
laDivinaah ok!! adept!!03:23
laDivinaok pygi03:24
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Jack1hi how do i set up a root password to use with su -p?03:25
pygilaDivina: do: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"03:26
Jack1i have a sudo one but thats another cup of coffee03:26
hardw1resudo passwd03:26
Jack1<hardw1re>right thx03:26
pygilaDivina: put in your password, erase all content and paste stuff from this location:03:26
pygilaDivina: you alive? :P03:27
laDivinayeah yeah i'm alive..i guess03:28
pygihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1878303:28
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laDivinai wrote the kommand03:28
pygiafter that, use:03:28
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pygi"sudo apt-get update"03:28
pygi"sudo apt-get upgrade"03:28
pygilaDivina: tell if there is anything you dont understand03:28
laDivinai think that adept already upgrade the system03:28
pygilaDivina: just please do all the steps I said :)03:29
laDivinaright03:29
laDivinaok pygi i did it03:31
Tommy2k4well i figured out how to resize the partition if anyone wants to know03:31
pygilaDivina: all of the steps?03:31
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laDivinayes!03:32
pygilaDivina: ok, lets get on with more configuration & setting up :)03:32
pygijust run the commands I tell you and say when you're done03:33
pygiwget http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz03:33
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pygilaDivina: done downloading?03:36
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Tommy2k4my comp couldnt of picked a worse time to crash >_<03:39
Tommy2k4while i was repartitioning my hdd03:39
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doppelganger_yo aegean, are you here?03:48
slow-motionhallo03:48
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hardw1reis there a way to tell something to make with a specific version of gcc?03:57
buzdoes anybody know how to boot an ibook from a kubuntu ppc cd? shouldnt it be enough to hit C upon boot?03:58
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ThunderStruckhardw1re: i think apt-cache show package tells you that04:00
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tommy2k4i managed to resize my / partition :) but now it wont login :(04:04
tommy2k4could not start kstartupconfig or something04:04
tommy2k4so i think it either doesnt like my /home being empty or its not mounting it04:04
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hardw1reThunderStruck: i mean when you do a make install or a make all, to tell it to compile with gcc 3.4 instead of gcc 4.004:05
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LeeJunFantommy2k4: that would certainly do it.04:08
ThunderStruckhardw1re: i dont htink you do since it was compiled with a version already but if you can you would set the version you want to use and ./configure make sudo checkinstall04:10
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Healothardw1re: install gcc 3.4, prefix the compile command with CC=gcc-3.404:12
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hardw1renah camera still wont work propler04:14
hardw1reproperly&04:14
hardw1re*04:14
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syniehey, i'm startung out of my program some other processes. if i'll list the programm with the processes via ps -axf, then the processes r listed within the "main"-program (in tree style). is the ram load infront of the "main"-program the load of ALL processes, started out of this program, or is it only the load of the program itself ?04:19
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Healotmy one cent, stick to Windows. hardw1re04:19
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hardw1re>_<04:21
hardw1rewindows is boring04:21
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Healotno, it is not... the coolest GUI-oriented OS ever :)04:21
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LeeJunFanheh, I was about to say ubuntu was having trouble again but apparently SBC is having an interconnect problem with level3.net04:25
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RogueXh3sp4wn: Hello04:31
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h3sp4wnRogueX: Hi04:32
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RogueXh3sp4wn: is there anyway to turn off comming and going announcements?04:35
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RogueXMilhousePunkRock: Hello04:35
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h3sp4wnRogueX: in irssi ?04:35
MilhousePunkRockHey RogueX04:35
MilhousePunkRockAre you using Konversation, RogueX?04:36
flakei'm running kubuntu, is it the same as dapper drake?04:36
RogueXh3sp4wn: In Konversation my window fills up with all the statements of users leaving and comming...04:36
LeeJunFanflake: dapper is simply a release name for kubuntu/ubuntu - just like vista is for windows.04:36
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RogueXMilhousePunkRock: yes04:36
MilhousePunkRockflake: Dapper Drake is the codename for the 6.06 'Untus04:37
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eshedbut isnt kubuntu with KDE and ubuntu with GNOME?04:37
flakewill i have to re-install with every upgrade of drake04:37
slow-motionyes04:37
eshedumm anyone knows about SIS650 and ubuntu?04:37
LeeJunFaneshed: that's how they start out, but one can install the other as well.04:37
gnomefreakeshed: yes04:37
slow-motionkubuntu is kde and ubuntu gnome04:37
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flakedrake is like suse or fedora then04:38
josh___how do you kill x server04:38
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MilhousePunkRockRogueX: Settings --> Set up Konversation --> Chat window --> Behavoiur --> join/part/nick events04:38
LeeJunFanflake: drake is just a version of ubuntu04:38
flakewill i have to reinstall everything if/when drake goes to next release04:38
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LeeJunFan6.06 is dapper drake, 6.10 will be Edgy Eft04:39
josh___telinit 3 doesn't work!!04:39
eshedanyone? SiS 650 troubles D:04:39
LeeJunFanflake: no, you can do upgrades04:39
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MilhousePunkRockThe next will have another name04:39
MilhousePunkRock^^ flake04:39
flakethat's cool04:39
LeeJunFanflake: or you can continue to run drake, security updates will be supported for the next 5 or so years I think.04:39
eshedi can't install my video onboard SiS 650 card... can't even go above 60 refresh rate :-\04:40
josh___yeah because you need the nvidia drivers04:40
josh___acutally not nvidia04:40
josh___just video drivers04:40
eshedwhere can i get those?04:40
MilhousePunkRockDid you find that RogueX?04:40
RogueXMilhousePunkRock: YOU ROCK!    Thank you VERY MUCH04:40
flakeeshed - nvidia has linux drivers on their website04:41
josh___i have to install ndidia drivers too...04:41
josh___and i need to quit x server but nobody will tell me how04:41
MilhousePunkRockThx RogueX, but I am only a beginner...04:41
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josh___and telenit 3 doesn't do shit04:41
eshedflake: i dont have nvidia, i have lame sis onboard04:41
flakeoh04:41
eshedand i cant find the correct drivers04:41
RogueXMilhousePunkRock: Then your a advance beginner!!04:42
flakecan you upgrade your mb04:42
eshedmy what? (newbe sometimes over here)04:42
flakemotherboard04:42
flakeor is it a laptop04:42
eshedOH04:42
eshedno, no laptop04:42
LeeJunFanjosh___: telinit3, should, or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:42
eshedand i dont intend to upgrade, just want to use linux properly :D04:42
flakeoh04:42
LeeJunFansudo telinit 3 anyway04:43
flakesis650 drivers?04:43
eshedyes04:43
flakehttp://www.download.com/SiS-SiS650-SiS740-Family-Chipset-Graphics-Driver-Windows-2000-XP-/3000-2108_4-10278937.html04:43
flake?04:43
josh___kdm not responding to TERM signal (pid 4996).04:43
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eshedthat was fast ^_^ tnx ill try it04:44
gatekeeperLeeJunFan: are you going to be able to wait until 2007 version has been released before upgrading and will you be able to go from dapper to the 2007 version?04:44
eshedbut windows xp?04:44
flakeit says windows2000/xp04:44
flakemake sure it's right model number04:44
esheddont i need linux or smtng?04:44
flakedoh04:44
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mneisenHello, does anybody know how I can tell KDE to mount media (USB sticks/external harddrive) without the noexec mount option?04:44
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flakehttp://www.sis.com/support/support_faqs_16.htm04:45
flakeit says it has support for linux kernel 2.4.2004:45
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flakeuse www.google.com, you can find almost anything with it04:45
eshed...its redhat :-\04:46
eshedflake: i use the new ubuntu (dapper drake 6.06) and it comes with a default driver, but it only reaches 1024 res with max 60 refresh rate :-\04:47
josh___every thing i try doesn't work04:47
flakedid you try sending their tech support an email04:48
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netherworldHi! There is a new scene in the net ftp://all:q1w2e3@netherworld.is-a-geek.net:5000 if you like it, please consider uploading any related and relevant material. No porno, no movies, no musics! 100GB purely educational!04:48
eshedumm not yet, thought to try here first :)04:48
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josh___i thought there was an auto update to get nvidia drivers04:49
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mneisen!noexec04:50
ubotuI know nothing about noexec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:50
mneisen!tell me noexec04:50
ubotuI know nothing about tell me noexec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:50
eshedjosh___: umm u tried using the ubuntu guide? it has a page about video drivers from ATI and Nvidia I think04:51
josh___omg04:51
josh___where04:51
josh___i think i've been to that04:51
josh___link me plz04:51
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eshedumm sec04:52
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josh___u need to install something in package manager04:52
josh___i can never install anythign with package manager04:52
josh___it downloads it then does nothing04:53
flakeesehd - what's the problem with your current driver(s)04:53
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eshedflake - i can see the linux and everything04:53
josh___o yay its working04:53
eshedbut it only goes up to 60 refresh rate04:53
eshedand i cant use any 3d stuff04:54
eshedgoogle earth even04:54
josh___u can't go past 60 refresh rate cuz u have no drivers04:54
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eshedthat's the point ^_^ i need those drivers04:54
josh___google it?04:54
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MilhousePunkRockHow do I untar a .tar.bz2 on the console?04:55
h3sp4wntar xvfj04:55
houngantar -xvjf file04:55
mneisenMilhousePunkRock: I would do tar xfjp file.tar.bz2 - this keeps the permissions tha are contained in the file.04:56
yamaleshed: check http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml04:56
eshedye someone just gave me that address in the #ubuntu channel, but it doesnt respond04:56
eshedoh wait, i dont think its the same one04:56
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eshedyamal: saw your page04:57
eshedyamal: (know it)04:57
MilhousePunkRockAnd how do I specify a "target path"? It's in /home/me/Downloads now and the I want it unpacked to /home/me/var/04:57
eshedyamal: ill try again :)04:58
yamaleshed: looks like it has all the info you need, esp the "x driver" parts towards the end04:59
eshedyamal: bah that page is old ... i have X version 7.0.0 and the max it has is 6.904:59
eshedyamal: well i guess ill try "X.org 6.9.0 (gcc 4.x; should work for 7.0 as well)"04:59
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flakeis enabling dmz on a gaming pc (within a router network) dangerous05:01
josh___no05:02
josh___its fine05:02
MilhousePunkRockflake: I'd rather forward the ports manually though05:02
josh___cuz routers have firewalls anyways05:02
MilhousePunkRockIsn't DMZ bypassing the firewall big time?05:02
josh___well apps like steam require non-dmz along with forwarded ports05:02
eshedumm how can I stop X.org?05:03
josh___i can't enable it because steam won't let me05:03
flakeyes, for just one internal ip address05:03
MilhousePunkRockmneisen: How can I specify a target path for untaring?05:04
flakei'm just trying to reduce lag on my 10-15mb/s line05:04
flakepeople still get one shoot in - lose a couple of frames, and i'm dead05:04
MilhousePunkRocklag is not necessarily connected to the line speed05:04
eshedits more to where u live, no?05:04
MilhousePunkRockYou'd have to determine if it's system or network lag first05:04
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eshedAnyone knows how to STOP X.org?05:05
MilhousePunkRockWhat game is it, flake?05:05
flakeet(lin or win), bf2 (for win)05:05
Hobbseeeshed: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:06
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flakecod2 runs great05:06
flakequake4 lags (lin or win)05:06
eshedHobbsee: someone told me to do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:07
Hobbseeeshed: well, are you using kdm or gdm?05:07
Hobbseeeshed: seeing as that will determine which to use05:07
eshedHobbsee: what, gnome or kde?05:07
Hobbsee(and why are you asking the same questoin in two channels at once anyway?)05:07
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Hobbseeeshed: effectively, yeah05:07
MilhousePunkRockflake: Than it's not the router... Just lower your settings in the game05:07
badyhi guys05:07
eshedHobbsee: well gdm then ^_^05:07
flakeok05:07
eshedHobsee: tnx05:08
eshedHobsee: i tried it sometime ago and it made my screen flicker endlessly.... or am i wrong? :0\05:08
badyI'm trying to use qucs to learn some stuff about circuits... but once I try to put a table into the data window it crashes... I tryed putting it into a graph and then it tells me that my data is invalid.... any ideas?05:09
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flakethanks i'll try to tweak it more05:10
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artohoi05:10
Lord_Athurhi all05:10
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MilhousePunkRockeshed: I think you need to open a new console for that with Ctrl-Alt-F105:11
tommy2k4what do i need to do to be able to login again after formatting /home05:11
flakewarzone 2100 is freeware, and have install for linux05:11
tommy2k4it says kstartupconfig could not start05:11
flakehttp://home.gna.org/warzone/index.shtml05:11
h3sp4wnflake: I have found the best way is to use a router in client mode then connect to that via wired (avoid using wireless for playing a game at low lag)05:11
flakeright, i have it hardwired05:12
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badytommy2k4: you need to have a drive which you can mount to /home it has to be rw for your user....05:12
h3sp4wnflake: Don't know then05:12
eshedMilhousePunkRock: yea i think last time i didnt... btw how do i start X.org again after that?05:12
badystartx ?05:13
MilhousePunkRocklol eshed I had to figure that out just a second ago... CTRL-ALT-F6 it was, I think05:13
MilhousePunkRockstartx won't work, bady, since X is still running05:13
MilhousePunkRockalthough if you stop it with /etc/init.d/xdm stop, startx should work05:14
tommy2k4bady ive partitioned it and its mounted05:14
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badywell he didn't tell me that its still running05:14
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eshedill use /etc/initid/gdm stop05:14
TeePOGevening05:14
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badytommy2k4: do you have rw access?05:14
eshedMilhousePunkRock: umm ctrl-alt-f6 willstart X.org again or should i use startx?05:15
tommy2k4pretty sure it said so in mount, yes05:15
MilhousePunkRockI think if you stop it, f6 won't help...05:16
eshedso startx then? :)05:16
MilhousePunkRocksorry for the misunderstanding05:16
badydo a /etc/init.d/gdm start05:16
eshednp, tnx05:16
badyxdm of course05:16
eshedoh guess that's logical, since same thing with STOP stops it :)05:17
bady=905:17
eshedi use gnome, thank u :) is that x thing better than gnome?05:17
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MilhousePunkRockGnome and KDE and whatnot all base on xserver AFAIK05:17
eshedso what is xubuntu about again, if not the desktop environment?05:18
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MilhousePunkRockThat's xfce, the window manager... Not to be confused with xserver05:19
eshedso xfce versus gnome, what do u say?05:19
eshed"Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for unix-like operating systems. It aims to be fast and lightweight, while still being visually appealing and easy to use."05:19
badygnome looks nicer xfce is nicer for your cpu05:19
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badyKDE and gnome are eye candys... nnothing more05:20
eshedwill i be better off with xfce? (i'm new to linux so i can adjust to anything right now)05:20
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badygnome is probably easier to use05:21
badybut it all depends on what you wanna do with your system05:21
gemidjy_I have 2 devices on my machine - a DVD-RW and a CD-RW (hdc and hdd respectively). I mount the cd via shell, mount /dev/hdb /media/dvd0, and it mounts fine, But KDE doesn't notices that DVD with data on it is inserted but it sees it as Blank CD and opens "Open with..." dialog..05:21
eshedwhat can u do with xfce that u cant with gnome or the other way around?05:21
badyyou can do everything.... because you always have a terminal and the xserver for rendering the GUI of your apps05:22
eshedumm u have the terminal in gnome as well, no ?05:23
badyI think in gnome it is under Apps->system->Terminal....05:23
badygemidjy_: I always thought kde wants to mount everything under mnt?05:24
gemidjy_bady: please ...05:24
bady??05:24
gemidjy_kde doesn't mount anything at all, it is not its job05:24
eshedi added a shortcut in the panel to the terminal... its one click away:) but you could use the CTRL-ALT-Fx, no?05:24
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gemidjy_and I can tell udev to mount my cdrom in /asmdkada/cdrom if I want05:24
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badygemidjy_: yes I know... but it has an automounter.... and since you are in #kubuntu05:25
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gemidjy_bady: I know that man!05:25
gemidjy_geez..05:25
dr_willistheres some udev config files you can mess with :) or so ive read about.05:25
MilhousePunkRockeshed: I doubt that a terminal _inside_ X will stop X properly05:25
badygemidjy_: you should calm down...05:25
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dr_willisor just make a soft link.05:25
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gemidjy_bady: Kay calls udev and it listens for its calls, nothing else05:26
eshedMilhousePunkRock: that's why i use the CTRL-ALT-Fx, no/05:26
gemidjy_so kde still doesnt mount anything05:26
MilhousePunkRockWhat is this supposed to mean: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:26
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MilhousePunkRockI think so, eshed05:26
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gemidjy_MilhousePunkRock: install kdebase-dev05:26
JavaBytehi - i've got a problem with a drive not showing up - i've tried to mount it with sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc3 /media/hdc3 and it says mount: mount point /media/hdc3 does not exist05:27
eshedwell thanks MilhousePunkRock and all, if i leave the chatroom then it means i had to restart my comp because the drivers wont install noramlly :) bbs05:27
JavaByteyet it appears in media??05:27
MukiEXIs there a solid guide for 1. ghosting and 2. installing XGL?05:27
dr_willisJavaByte,  that dir needs to EXIST befor ya mount it..05:27
dr_willismedia - is part of the auto mounting system05:27
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MilhousePunkRockYou need to specify a mountpoint, not the device, JavaByte05:27
dr_willisso it can auto do things. :)05:27
JavaByteso i create /hdc3 in /media and it's all good :?05:28
LeeJunFanJavaByte: yeah, mkdir /media/hdc305:28
JavaBytecool :)05:28
eshedweird, why cant i use CTRL-ALT-F2? D:05:28
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MilhousePunkRockWhat's wrong with F1 eshed?05:28
eshedsame as all the other Fx's, MilhousePunkRock05:29
eshedit just won't go there D:05:29
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eshedso weird, i just went there couple of minutes ago05:30
MilhousePunkRockI think you can quit KDE or Gnome from the Login-Screen05:30
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eshedwell yea but its so weird05:31
LeeJunFaneshed: you don't have a function key lock on your keyboard that needs activated do you?05:31
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kalindaHey! I need some help :)05:32
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eeoshi there05:32
eshedLeeJunFan: i dont have that F lock or anything, just your regular Num lock, Caps lock and Scroll lock :)05:32
JavaBytedamn now it's saying folder couldn't be opened - do i need to rb05:32
JavaByte?05:32
dr_willisPadlock,05:32
dr_willis!mount05:32
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks05:32
eeosjust installed kubuntu, but I have to problems here05:33
kalindaAnybody know how to properly install Azureus so it'll actually start?05:33
dr_willisya may want to do some reading on the basics of mounting drives and partitiona JavaByte .05:33
eshedMilhousePunkRock: btw how do i return to the login screen when i use the terminal from the login screen?05:33
kalindaeeos: What are ur problems? lol.. I dunno if I can help or not.. I'm sort of new to it.. but I've used Linux for a few months now05:33
dr_williskalinda,  I found Ktorrent better. :P    Azureus had some very very annoying bugs last i managed to get it working.05:33
kalindaWell, KTorrent is kinda... slooooooooooow... and I used Azureus in Suse... I'll switch if I have to.. but I'd like to get it working and see first05:34
eeoswell, I need to learn how to install kde themes on kubuntu 6.0605:34
dr_willisive never noticed ktorrent being any slower then azurus05:34
kalindaactually, Im not sure about KTorrent, just that it was tried in another distro and it had slow dload speeds05:34
dr_willishow do you even benchmark such things.05:35
dr_willistorrent downloads have so many other variables that can slow them down. :P05:35
kalindalol yeah, I know..05:35
kalindaI guess I could try something I _know_ to be fast05:35
h3sp4wnazureus feels slow05:35
JavaByteah i see now i need permission :s05:35
dr_willisi never found Azureus  to be fast.05:35
dr_willis:)05:35
kalindaAzureus IS slow.. I mean... cuz it uses Java..05:35
MilhousePunkRockOpenOffice... That was the fastest torrent I ever had05:35
dr_willisthen again most torrents are slow.05:35
kalindabut it doesnth ave slow download speeds05:36
kalindaeeos: KDE themes? Okay..05:36
dr_willisOr course when ya are downloading stuff at 5k/s anyway.. for a week at a time...05:36
h3sp4wnrtorrent is the best to use (if you have to use torrents)05:36
kalindaeeos: Go to www.kde-look.org05:36
JavaBytewhats the linux equivelent for attrib then?05:36
dr_willisJavaByte,  whats your fstab entry?05:36
kalindaThen, go to themes05:36
kalindaI think05:36
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kalindathere will be instructions05:36
dr_willisJavaByte,  you DONT chmod the mounted dirs. you use the right options to mount and in the fstab.05:36
root__hi there05:36
kalindahello05:37
h3sp4wnJavaByte: chmod05:37
MilhousePunkRockyou shouldn't use IRC as root, root__05:37
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dr_willisya shouldent be doing anything as root - :) that dosent have to be done as root. :P then exit out of root. "the root of all evil" l0l05:37
JavaBytethere's no fstab entry?? yet it mounted ok?05:37
JavaBytei don't get it?!!05:38
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dr_willisJavaByte,  theres 2 systems going on.. the fstab, and then the auto mounting features of the window manager/desktop05:38
LeeJunFanJavaByte: fstab just has stuff in it that you supplied on the command line.05:38
dr_willisif you want to make a fstab entry thats fine. and may work better then the auto mounting stuff.05:38
LeeJunFanJavaByte: since you told it what fs type, device and mountpoint on the commandline it didn't need to look in fstab to fill in blanks.05:38
stefan_hello, where can I konfigure my scanner?05:38
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JavaByteso i need to enter the fstab by manual edit?05:39
root__MilhousePunkRock: uh, why? is it wrong?05:39
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dr_willisfstab is a text file... that can be edited.05:39
MilhousePunkRockYou shouldn't ever be root on Linux unless you have to...05:39
dr_willisJavaByte,  what kind of drive is this?05:39
MilhousePunkRockYou don't need to be root to use IRC, so don't be root... :-)05:40
kalindaErm05:40
JavaByte80gb HD05:40
kalindathis is gonna come off stupid but.. how do I tell Firefox to use KTorrent to open the torrent?05:40
dr_willisJavaByte,  is it a NTFS? or Linux partition... :P  i guessed it was a hard drive. :)05:40
kalindaThe KMenu reveals nothing about where KTorrent actually IS05:40
root__MilhousePunkRock: well, if I canan ccess everything s root why should I restrict myself, I want it all05:40
JavaBytepartitioned 4 times - linux root home swap and 40gb of ntfs05:40
dr_williskalinda,  i always save the .torrents to a dir..  just in case.05:40
dr_willis!ntfs05:40
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:40
kalindaKTorrent doesnt do that for you?05:40
dr_willis!fstab05:41
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions05:41
MilhousePunkRockThat's the reason why Windows is flooded with virii... Lack of restrictions...05:41
LeeJunFanroot__: because windows does the same thing (everythign as admin) and see how well it works for them?05:41
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root__MilhousePunkRock: if you dont install virii then you're safe, root or not, no?05:41
kalindaAlso, I have a router.. which means it won't work unless I forward ports.. and yargh05:41
root__I've got an antivirus running, clamav I think05:41
MilhousePunkRockvirii usually install themselves, using your root privileges...05:42
kalindalol.. I tyried anti-virus one time05:42
LeeJunFanroot__: or if you visit a webpage with an exploit, or run an errant command like rm -rf * when you happen to be in /05:42
kalindaOh, cool.. KTorrent has a plugin for ports05:42
JavaByteso if i put "/dev/hdc3       /media/hdc3     ntfs    defaults" in fstab it should be fine?05:42
dr_willis   My fstab entry for the NTFS drive -->      Your may vary.   /dev/hda5 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 005:42
dr_willisJavaByte,  that will mount it readable ONLY by root05:43
dr_willisthe 'user' and 'users' option, as well as the 'umask' option may be needed - depending on what you want to do.05:43
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eeos_is anyone there?05:43
dr_willisgoogle proberly has 10000000000 entries/examples of mounting a ntfs under linux.05:43
eeos_kalinda: I lost connection05:43
dr_willisIts annying that ubuntu/kubuntu managed to goof it up. :)05:44
eeos_kalinda:I know where to find themes, but I need to install themes I already have05:44
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JavaByteshould i have root home swap or root user swap btw - i think i messed that up05:44
eeos_kalinda: I do not know how to start kde theme manager on kubuntu05:44
eeos_kalinda: or can you install them without using the theme manager?05:44
MilhousePunkRockHow do I add something to "path"?05:45
kalindaeeos: Oh! That's easy!05:45
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kalindaeeos: Darn, I cant PM you... but alright.. here we go then05:45
JavaBytei just need to read it, rw isn't needed as i'm only using it for media avi mp3 etc05:45
kalindaKMenu > System Settings05:46
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LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: export PATH=$PATH:[some dir] 05:46
senseiMilhousePunkRock: VARIABLE=path05:46
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kalindaAppearance05:46
dr_willisJavaByte,  you dont want to write to a NTFS - its not very well supported and can trash the NTFS drive05:46
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MilhousePunkRockI get this error when installing: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:46
kalindaerm.. okay.... I see what you mean. I believe you need KDM05:46
MilhousePunkRockSo where are the X includes, I believe those have to be put in path, right?05:47
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: if you want it to be permanent for you user then edit ~/.bash_profile, or /etc/profile to make it systemwide05:47
kalindaBut I must ask, what do you mean by themes? Can I have a kde-look.org URL as an example? Because in Linux it has several things.. window doecorations, styles, colours, etc05:47
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: that would be a different type of path for includes.05:47
dr_willisJavaByte,  The ultumate NTFS mounting Under linux web site ---->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume05:47
dr_willis:)05:47
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: are you sure you have them installed?05:48
MilhousePunkRocknot at all, LeeJunFan05:48
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LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev05:48
eshedI'M BACK :D05:49
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MilhousePunkRockBut: What I was trying to do was installing something, that's not in the depos yet, a newer version of some program I already have... I doubt it needs something new...05:49
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kalinda_99*registers on freenode*05:49
noipmixamany1 can help out with my prob05:49
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LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: the one you already have installed come from the repos?05:50
eshedMilhousePunkRock, I tried copying the driver but when i did ..../gdm start, the screen was black and white and three weird consoles05:50
kalinda_99Actually, I cant.. brb..05:50
kalinda_99I'll be back in a little while05:50
KDEfanboyspeaking of NTFS support, anyone tried the new ntfs-3g native GPL driver ? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=269705:50
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LeeJunFanKDEfanboy: no, been waiting for you to screw up your system and tell us all how to do it right :p05:51
LeeJunFanKDEfanboy: actually I've been using captive for quite a while now (when needed) and haven't had need to try the new 3g yet.05:51
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dr_willisGeeeeeee - love it when problems get asked in the form of riddlles... guess i just wont worry about it...05:51
noipmixamsome1 hooked my laptop with an ACPI bug I think05:52
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noipmixamwhatever u call it05:52
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dr_willisA lot of laptops have APCI bugs/issues/oddities. :)  I have several that have specific acpi features that dont work 100%05:53
noipmixamaka hibernate instead of shutting down05:53
noipmixamand its using its own device list so figure05:54
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MilhousePunkRockLeeJunFan: Yeah, that was from the repos... It's KPowersave, I think in the repos is 6.0, but there is 6.02 already05:55
MilhousePunkRockThat's what I am trying to configure make make install05:55
JavaByteso how do i set dr-xr-xr-x- with chmod ?05:55
dr_willisJavaByte,  theres several dozen web sites with chmod examples. :)05:56
eshedfor some reason my SiS driver thing didnt work out :\05:56
dr_willisJavaByte,  what are ya chmoding?05:56
JavaBytehdc305:56
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: ah, that would be why you need new stuff then. When you are building an application it needs devel packages (includes, etc) to compile the application against certain libraries. When you install from a package (deb) it's already been compiled, so no includes are needed.05:56
MilhousePunkRockOk, thx LeeJunFan05:56
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: what's up? :P05:57
dr_willisJavaByte,  you use the umask options.. like that web site said.05:57
dr_willisJavaByte,  The ultumate NTFS mounting Under linux web site ---->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume05:57
JavaBytecool :)05:57
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: you'll probably run into a lot of those, you'll need kde libs devel as well. You should be able to search with adept to find the libs-dev you need.05:57
dr_willisYa missed it the first time i pasted it eh? :P05:57
MilhousePunkRockseems like apt-get checked for dependencies... Lot of stuff new to install...05:58
MilhousePunkRockHey abattoir05:58
MilhousePunkRockI turned off the transparency again, was just too slow... :-/05:58
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: as i said, turn off full window transparency and use it only for the windeco... makes it look a bit 'elegant' in my view :)05:59
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MilhousePunkRockSame error, LeeJunFan06:00
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larson9999linux rocks!06:00
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MilhousePunkRockWell, the transparency of Crystal is pseudo, goes straight to the wallpaper...06:01
dr_willispseudo as in Fake. :P06:01
martanyone know if "Jonathan Patrick Davies" is on irc? nick?06:01
MilhousePunkRockYeah, dr_willis06:01
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: ah, the joys of compiling :) you should be able to check the config.log file in your build dir and see what it says it's missing.06:01
dr_willisIts just showing the wallpaper and changeing it on the fly. :)06:01
dr_willisDynamic wallpaper changeing.06:01
dr_willisYa wouldent belive the # of aruments/discussions ive seen on 'transparency' under linux.06:02
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: perhaps you need to install also x11proto-core-dev06:03
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: and libx11-dev06:03
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Lord_Athurbye06:04
eshedis there a way to get to CTRL-ALT-Fx terminals without the keyboard shortcut? :0\06:04
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MilhousePunkRockdr_willis: That's because Linux CAN...06:05
dr_willisof course the actual "USE" of transparent windows -- is the next big argumnt that always follows.06:06
dr_willis:)06:06
dr_willisthen ya get into all sorts of gui discussion/debates/philospny.06:07
LeeJunFandr_willis: old schooler.06:07
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LeeJunFandr_willis: :) I often don't even see the USE of windows at all, any of them, transparent or not.06:07
dr_willisYa would think after 20+ years of 'research' and  ussage. we would have stuff pretty well figured out by now.06:07
kalinda_99Back now.. the person I was helping left, I think06:07
dr_willisLeeJunFan,  i tend to keep everything fullscreen and just alt-tab around.06:07
MilhousePunkRockThose two are already installed, LeeJunFan06:07
eshedMilhousePunkRock, it seems i cant use the CTRL-ALT-Fx thing. How can i get to that external terminal without that shortcut?06:08
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MilhousePunkRockLook around on your graphical login screen, there should be an option to leave the window manager, eshed06:09
JavaByteso i need to unmount delete the fstab in order to remount with the correct umask?06:09
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: hrm, not sure what's missing then. Chances are something other than x includes are missing but the error handling in the configure script isn't telling you the right thing, you may only be able to find out by looking at the config.log file and finding the actual spot where it errors out. Might be something stupid like libjpeg or something.06:09
cga_afk!rar06:09
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression06:09
MilhousePunkRockDo you think that it's listed somewhere what I need to compile it? I have compiled stuff before...06:09
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eshedyes i tried that, MilhousePunkRock, but when i tried copying the drivers, when ireturned to the login screen it gave me a black-and-white screen with three terminals for some reason :-\06:10
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MilhousePunkRockThat's beyond my (in fact very limited) knowledge then, eshed, sorry...06:10
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LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: different applications have different dependancies on libraries and include files. Chances are you've just never compiled anything that needs whatever library/include this app wants.06:10
JavaBytehow do you unmount?06:11
LeeJunFans/dependancies/dependencies06:11
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LeeJunFanJavaByte: umount /media/hdc306:11
LeeJunFanJavaByte: prolly want to prepend sudo to that06:11
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JavaByteumount ??? as if another whole letter would have killed them :P06:11
eshedwell np MilhousePunkRock, you've been great help either way :)06:11
noipmixamVESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(r) 82945GM Chipset Family Graphics Controller06:12
JavaByteyeh you need sudo for all this06:12
noipmixamVESA(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum06:12
eshedwell i gonna try kfce now :) already tried gnome and kde... bbs06:12
noipmixamany clue about these ?06:13
LeeJunFanAh to be a young linux newbie again. I remember the days when I enjoyed trying all the 50 desktop environments.06:13
JavaByteyup that got it - umount then re- mount with the right mask, now to sort the fstab!06:14
v3ctorLeeJunFan: yup06:14
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noipmixamyea06:14
noipmixamthe problem is if I had the choice to use either linux or windows ... wouldnt be a prob06:14
MilhousePunkRockSomeone needs to tell eshed that he needs x either way...06:14
noipmixambut im sorta force to use it06:14
JavaByteis the 8.16.26 ati driver compatible with kubuntu06:15
MilhousePunkRockThat's what Microsoft WGA did with me, noipmixam... Forced me to use Linux... I don't regret it though...06:16
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MilhousePunkRockBack to that error... What about me posting the config.log on a pastebin and you tell me what's wrong, LeeJunFan? :-)06:18
noipmixamyea but I cant tell if what im reading is accurate or fake helpfile06:18
LeeJunFanI can try. I'm cooking up some lunch now, but I'll be back in a couple mins.06:18
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: go ahead and post it.06:18
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MilhousePunkRockLeeJunFan: http://pastebin.ca/9854006:23
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LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: apparently it failed including crt_externs.h, now to figure out what package includes that.06:27
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MilhousePunkRockThat sounds like an external CRT screen... I wouldn't need that anyway...06:28
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LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: just a sec.06:33
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LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: install libxt-dev06:34
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meikcan sombody help me i seek for an 3d benchmark for linux do some one know a god util06:35
kalinda3D benchmark?06:36
meikyes06:36
kalindaYou mean like... an alternative to DirectX for games?06:36
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meikmor than glxgear06:36
MilhousePunkRockDone, thx LeeJunFan... BTW, would you recommend removing the packet I am going to "overwrite"?06:36
MilhousePunkRockPrior to make install that is...06:36
zblachhi06:36
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: if you look at line 2127 of the pastebin you'll see your error. Then scroll up to line 2073 you'll see the actual error that created the message you got from configure.06:36
meikDX with linux ?06:36
kalindaglxgear?06:37
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kalindauuuh.. lol... anybody know?06:37
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: yes, prior to install you should remove the package. you should probably also do ./configure --prefix=/usr/local06:37
kalindaI know Linux has an alternative to DirectX06:37
meikjes glide06:37
kalindaand probly a free alternative to 3D modelling programs06:37
meikdx is an fuck M$ produckt06:38
kalindaLOL.. Yeah i know06:38
MilhousePunkRockFound that, LeeJunFan... But how did you determine what was missing?06:38
kalindabut I know some stuff about Windows.. so it's easier for me to find Linux alternative to MS products06:39
kalindaBUT06:39
kalindayou might try06:39
kalindawww.linux.org/apps - if it works, it wasnt yesturday06:39
kalindadamn.. it isnt working for me anymore ><06:39
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: the file was present on my system so it was easy to do dpkg-query -S Intrinsic.h and see what package put it there.06:39
MilhousePunkRockHow many years are you on Linux already? :-)06:40
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: I think 1106:40
meikk i try to find by myself wit google again cya06:40
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MilhousePunkRockI did "apt-get remove kpowersave" now06:41
MilhousePunkRockBut I wonder why it's still running...06:41
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: the files are gone from your HD but the program is still running in memory.06:42
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LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: right click the icon in the tasktray and quit it from there.06:42
MilhousePunkRockOK, I'll configure once again...06:43
MilhousePunkRockDone...06:43
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MilhousePunkRockThat prefix was for the target directory?06:44
MilhousePunkRockI got yet another error message...06:44
MilhousePunkRockchecking for libz... configure: error: not found.06:44
MilhousePunkRock          Possibly configure picks up an outdated version06:44
MilhousePunkRock          installed by XFree86. Remove it from your system.06:44
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LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: yes, the prefix was where it was going to be put. you probably just need to install libz dev06:45
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: apt-get install zlib1g-dev06:46
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timihow do i enable universe repositories06:49
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kalindaOh06:51
Hobbsee!repos > timi06:51
kalindaThat's easy06:51
kalinda!repos? is that a console command? lol06:51
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buzno thats a ubotu command06:52
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kalindaohhh lol06:53
kalindatimi, are u still waiting for an answer?06:53
kalindaAre you using Adept?06:53
buzcan someone comment on using widescreen monitors ?06:53
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kalindaor Synaptic?06:53
buzdoes that work with all graphics cards?06:53
timiadept06:53
timithat thing said edit sources.list which is way above me, i did it once a long time ago with a bunch of help from someone06:54
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slimplease help, fresh kubuntu DVD install and i only get 4400 packages in adept... should i just install Synaptic? ps-i seleced twwo additional repos in Adept for univ and multivs :)06:55
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buzslim: did you hit update in adept?06:56
alex____jion #ubuntu-cn06:56
timikalinda you still ther06:56
slimit seems to update CONSTANTLY very irritating06:56
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TeePOGhi06:56
abattoirtimi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu has specific info06:56
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kalindatimi, yes06:56
kalindaokay06:56
buzmaybe it's still fetching updates06:56
slimi clicked apply in repo mgmnt :) buz06:56
TeePOGhow do i get the 3D-enabled ATI drivers to work in Dapper?06:57
kalindaIn Adept, go to... Settings > Manage Repos, I think06:57
buzok then after that, click fetch updates06:57
timik06:57
slimi have clicked "fetch updates" buz06:57
slim:)06:57
kalindaNo, its Adept > Manage Repos06:57
kalindabut yeah06:57
timiyeah i found it06:57
buzand you still only have  4400 packages?06:57
kalindaOnce u do, you're looking at your sources.list file06:58
timiok06:58
kalindaBasically, right click on all the URLs and click enable06:58
timiok06:58
kalindaall the ones you want anyway, you'll probly want mulktiverse for things like Flash and Java06:58
kalindaonce your done,sday Apply06:58
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slimbuz > still waiting :)06:59
kalindathen go to Fetch Updates and it'll check your sources06:59
kalindaand hopefully it will all work06:59
buzslim: what connection you have?06:59
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buzthe update can download as much as 3-4mb06:59
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slimbuz > i think that did it but waiting for a total06:59
timiyep07:00
slimhispeed07:00
timikalinda thanks07:00
kalindaNP07:00
buzweird really07:00
MilhousePunkRockWhat's the packet name or Qt? LeeJunFan07:00
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slimbuz > i sure botched this one thanks, 18832 just like in synaptic :)07:00
MilhousePunkRockThat's the next he asks for...07:00
kalindaAlso, I suggest you get Synaptic.. because Adept is kind of.. crappy... and it likely won't work for installing Java07:00
buzok07:00
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: libqt3-mt-dev07:01
buzsynaptic is crappy in its own way07:01
slimkalinda, i agree... no conflicts ?07:01
buzno07:01
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kalindaconflicts?07:01
eshedAnyone knows a good room to get a bit more "professional" help regarding video drivers?07:01
buzaside of having to install some gnome stuff07:01
draikHello everyone07:01
kalindaactually... if you want to install Synaptic, close Adept, open a Konsole and type apt-get install synaptic07:01
kalindaerm07:02
MilhousePunkRockThis time it's gonna take a while, 20 MB07:02
kalindasudo apt-get install synaptic07:02
buzyou can do it in adept you know ;)07:02
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slimkalinda--- no need to worry about one running over the other one? lol sounds silly in linux probaby07:02
kalindahello, draik07:02
buzi wish ubuntu would use SMART07:02
kalindaNope, no need.. I'm doing it just fine07:02
buzslim: as long as you wont run em at the same time07:02
mariuxis cpuscaling kinda broken on kubuntu?07:02
buz(which can't work=07:02
kalindaAdept will still run updates for you, with its updater, but you can use Synaptic for everything07:02
buzmariux: works for me07:02
slimbuz > smart?07:02
mariuxyes for me to, but only barely07:03
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slim!smart07:03
ubotusmart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager07:03
kalindalol.. wow, that's nifty07:03
mariuxondemand doesnt always seem to behave correctly07:03
slimnice07:03
slimbuz > how much have you used smart? any concerns? this machine is for my roomates father07:03
timiim needing to fix my resolution, and i did this before w/ kubuntu but i did a reinstall and got rid of windows completely07:04
buzslim: not much07:04
buzfor standard use adept is ok07:04
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timii used the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg07:04
timibut now it says xserver.xorg is not installed07:04
kalindaokay07:04
kalindawhats ur current res?07:04
buzslim: is that the first time you setup linux for a normal user? i want to do that for my gf's father07:04
timi1024x76807:04
timii have a widescreen and i need 1440x90007:05
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kalindaBecause you should be able to go to System Settings > Display and then go to hardware and make sure your moitor and vid card are selected07:05
dr_willis!fixres07:05
slimbuz > would still like to have synaptic for him, i have no probs... is this ok ? or any reason that keep it simple should apply here?07:05
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:05
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buztimi: what graphics card you have07:05
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tobyI would like to upgrade kubuntu breezy to kubuntu dapper, but I can only find the sources.list for ubuntu, not kubuntu.07:05
kalindaif not, then pick a generic one.. also make sure to tell it your monitor is 16:9 and not 4:307:05
timiintegrated i81607:05
tobyWhere is the sources.list for kubuntu dapper please?07:05
buzslim keep it simple for most users07:05
timiyeah this worked before when i just restarted x07:05
buzgive him adept_installer ;)07:05
timierr when i reconfigu red it07:05
MilhousePunkRockLeeJunFan: Now that I put the prefix there, do I have to cd there to do make make install?07:05
slimbuz > second time so far on installing for another > am going to be mainstreaming linux for anyone who is interested :)07:06
dr_willis!easysource07:06
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:06
kalindaChanging stuff in the Display requires restarting X07:06
timii installed 915resolution and it showed the correct avalable07:06
kalindaSo you got it?07:06
slimbuz > i respect that and thanks again... going to tackle sun java :)07:06
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timishouldnt this command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg07:06
LeeJunFanMilhousePunkRock: no, you do the 'make && sudo make install' from the source dir where you run configure07:06
dr_williswell with the right drivers/setup -  X can change its res on the fly. but it has to be set up correctly to allow it. :)07:06
timimanually let me set up xserver07:06
dr_willisxserver.org  - is TOTALLY wrong.07:06
dr_willisthats not the right name for the package07:06
kalindalol.. I'm not sure... I don't know anything about... everything07:06
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timihmm ok07:07
kalindaI got my monitor problesm solved through Control Center > Display > Hardware > Picking a generic 1024x768 monitor07:07
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dr_willis!fixres07:07
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:07
timiit cool07:07
timii got it07:07
timii had xserver.xorg07:07
timiits -xorg07:07
dr_willis:)07:07
dr_willisthat was what i was going to say.07:07
kalindaSweet, i'll remember that07:07
tobyubotu: Thanks - that site seems to only generate ubuntu sources (e.g. deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted)07:08
ubotuI know nothing about Thanks - that site seems to only generate ubuntu sources (e.g. deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted) - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:08
tobyubotu: what about kubuntu?07:08
ubotuI know nothing about what about kubuntu? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:08
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tobyAh, I see ubotu is a bot!07:09
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tobyCan anyone else please advise where to get a dapper kubuntu sources.list for upgrade?07:10
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trappisttoby: sudo perl -pi -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list should fix you up, but back up your sources.list first07:11
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draikIs anyone having slow connection with the downloads from Adept?07:12
tobyYes, I tried that to begin with, but when i did an apt-update it barfed on a few unofficial repositories. I do not know which are official and which I have added myself.07:12
eshedanyone knows a command to display my current screen refresh rate (in terminal inside the gui)07:13
tobyI would love a fresh clean sources.list but cannot find one anywhere which isn't ubuntu-specific07:13
pussfellerman wahts the keystroke to make the file menu appear again in kopete chat window???07:13
mariuxctrl m?07:14
pussfellerthats it thanks :)07:14
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timiyou know when you click on a link in this think it like loads then opens07:16
timihow do you make it just open the link in firefox, or is that some kind of security feature07:16
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draiktimi...07:17
draikI just changed that in my options07:17
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timidraik07:17
timijust send me everything07:18
timicuz i cant send it back im unregistered i gues07:18
tobyIs it safe to use the ubuntu sources.list to upgrade my kubuntu to dapper? Perhaps that's why I can't find a Kubuntu-specific one.07:18
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wolfpawhiho07:18
eshedcan anyone help me with this? http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotjl3.png07:18
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draikClick on Settings.... Configure Konversation... Under Behavior option... General subtopic... Miscellaneous box... Check box for "Use custom Web Browser"07:19
rr72LeeJunFan~ around?07:19
draikshould be set to firefox as default... that's what I had/have07:19
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draiktimi let me know if that works for you07:19
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tobyubotu:07:20
ubotuI know nothing about ubotu: - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:20
timiworked07:21
timithanks07:21
draikyou're welcome timi07:21
timidraik07:22
timiit opens in firefox07:22
timibut it has file//home/me/ in front of the url07:23
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MilhousePunkRockLeeJunFan: It gives me yet another error:07:23
MilhousePunkRockchecking for KDE... configure: error:07:23
MilhousePunkRockin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.07:23
MilhousePunkRockSo, check this please and use another prefix!07:23
timithen it cant find the website, why is this07:23
MilhousePunkRockSorry for the flood btw07:24
draiktimi, clean it up. keep only the URL part... and also the apostrophe at the end of the address07:24
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timiunder konversation setting write07:25
timiright*07:25
draiktimi, just go back to where you have your settings for firefox and be sure it ONLY SAYS 'FIREFOX'07:26
draikremove the rest of the commands after it07:26
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draik**commands -> options**07:26
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timiok07:27
draiktimi did it work?07:27
timiabout to check07:27
timiyep07:27
timithanks07:27
draikperfect... you're welcome07:27
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MilhousePunkRockStill there LeeJunFan?07:28
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rocketman768so, upgraded from breezy to dapper via apt-get. The system now "fails" when trying to start up pcmcia services. The fix posted on the wiki does nothing. What is wrong?07:29
rr72Mon Jul 24 12:29:29 CDT 200607:29
rr72*afternooon07:29
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draik*morning07:31
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slimi must dash, gl evry1 and God bless you07:32
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MilhousePunkRockGood evening gatekeeper... It's evening here too... :-)07:32
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rocketman768pcmcia anyone?07:33
gatekeeperMilhousePunkRock, how are you doing?07:33
dr_williswowsers... AMD is buying out ATI. :()07:33
MilhousePunkRockI could do better, if I could complie KPowersave, but thx for asking gatekeeper07:34
gatekeeperdr_willis, is that good, bad or indifferent for linux users, what do you reckon?07:35
rr72dr_willis~ SUP!!!!?!?!?!?!07:35
gatekeeperMilhousePunkRock, what problems are you having with it?07:35
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dr_willisgatekeeper,  no idea.. it means that ATI may actually start supporting Linux better.07:36
dr_willisWe can always hope07:36
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MilhousePunkRockThat's not too good for gamers, I suppose... Since AMD are _the_ game CPUs, but ATI aren't the vid cards of choice...07:36
timianyone know how i can get the wifi connected at startup07:36
rr72gatekeeper~ care to ask me how im doing?07:36
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MilhousePunkRockHave had various problems with missing libs, now finally this --> http://pastebin.ca/9861707:36
dr_willisIve given up on the 'for gamers' mentality. :P07:36
MilhousePunkRockYes, timi07:36
gatekeeperdr_willis, if you are right then that is good, presumable couldn't get worse07:36
rr72LeeJunFan~ my plan of attack is to get rid of all nvidia and install by hand07:36
dr_willisI stick the the midstream systems and  buy games when they are in the bargin bins.07:36
dr_willisgatekeeper,  :P yep.. will be interesting.07:37
timiaight millhouse you gotta link, or are you the man07:37
dr_willisATI does a Lot of things ya dont hear about as well.07:37
MilhousePunkRockjust add auto to your /etc/network/interfaces07:37
dr_willisThey aint just a 'video card' company.07:37
gatekeeperrr72, ok how are you doing? (knows this is a leading question :-) )07:37
timijeez im very new to this07:37
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timihow do i do that07:37
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rr72lets see i just got back from a cruise in hawaii and i found out that kdm is giving me signal 11 :(07:37
MilhousePunkRockYou know how to open a console, do you, timi?07:38
rr72other then the 9 hour plane ride and jet lag im not too bad07:38
timiyeah07:38
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MilhousePunkRockthen type "sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces"07:38
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rr72lol just use vi07:38
gatekeeperrr72, pay back for not takng your linux box with you :-)07:39
rr72or nano07:39
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rr72gate on a cruise?07:39
timiok yeah iit opned kate07:39
timiauto wlan0 is on07:39
timii was wondering how i could make it auto connect07:39
timilike the wireless assisstant07:39
MilhousePunkRockOh... Does it seem to connect but fails to get DHCP?07:39
rr72if its major editing i used to use kate but if it is a few lines i just use vi but now its all vi since kdm is sig1107:39
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tommy2k4what do i need to do to be able to login again after formatting /home07:40
tommy2k4it says kstartupconfig could not start07:40
angiehello07:40
tommy2k4failsafe session gives a few dcopserver errors then shows me a konsole07:40
timino i have to open wireless assistant and then connect to my home wireless network07:40
MilhousePunkRockyou could try adding "pre-up sleep 5" to the bottom of your wlan0 section, timi07:40
angiedoes anyone know i can get into ukchat07:40
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timii was just wondering it could just autojoin the first network like windows does07:41
MilhousePunkRockauto did the job for me... Maybe the DHCP stuff is too fast...07:41
timiok07:41
timiwelll its no biggie07:41
timii was just wondering07:41
angiecan any1 even see this07:41
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MilhousePunkRockthere is no # in front of auto... is it?07:42
MilhousePunkRockWhat's ukchat, angie?07:42
angieits a chroom  site07:42
rr72if u change it u need to safe the file and change the run level07:42
MilhousePunkRockwhat's a chroom site? I know chrome, but what's chroom?07:43
angiebut i think i need java and i dont know how07:43
gatekeepertommy2k4, may be try reinstalling kde desktop07:43
tommy2k4what package name07:43
angieukchat07:43
MilhousePunkRocktry looking for java in adept maybe, angie?07:44
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angiei know i might seem a bit blonde here but could you tell me how to do that im sorry07:45
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gatekeepertommy2k4, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_KDE07:45
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tommy2k4is there a CLI irc client lol07:46
tchoughhey, has anyone been having problems with not being able to start ksysguardd because of permissions on /var/run/?07:46
angielol07:47
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trappisttommy2k4: irssi and BitchX... and xchat-text07:47
trappisttommy2k4: I use irssi07:47
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tommy2k4k07:47
tommy2k4brb07:47
angieim lost now is there a link for it07:47
dr_willissirc :)07:48
aliasfredircII :)07:48
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dr_willisircii :)07:48
dr_willisthe good old days07:48
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dr_willisi rember when it was 'irc'  not ircii07:48
johan_Hi room07:48
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trappistchannel.07:49
KDEfanboyheh07:49
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johan_Can someone help me? I just installed Kubuntu 6.06, but I can't find the drivers for my printer, a canon Pixma IP2200, Can someone help?07:50
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draikjohan_, have you tried on their website?07:51
dr_willisjohan_,  I got a Canon Pixma ip6600 - and guess what.. canon wont release specs for it.. check cups.org for details - that printer may NOT be supported at all.07:51
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trappistjohan_: it's supported by turboprint: http://www.turboprint.info/07:52
timihow do i get flash player in firefox07:52
trappistnote: turboprint is not free07:52
johan_Dr_Willis: Thx for the info, It's to bad.... :(07:52
dr_willishttp://www.google.com/search?q=+Pixma+IP2200+linux&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official07:52
dr_willisseveral forums about that printer.07:52
draiktimi07:53
timii tried sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla but it dint work07:53
dr_willisI dont think turboprinmt supports my 6600 :()07:53
timiim listening07:53
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draikGo to this link... one sec...07:53
serialzkillerlol everything is for free on the net you just have 2 look closer07:53
dr_willisWhat proberly will happen is that in a year or so - the driver will move out of the 'turboprint' and into the normal CUPS drivers.07:53
trappistdr_willis: it supports other 6000 series printers, so it may work, but it's not specifically supported07:54
dr_willishttp://software.canon-europe.com/software/canon_print_filter_for_linuxs24301.asp?model=07:54
dr_willismentiosn that printer07:54
draikhttp://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz07:54
dr_willisso you may be in luck.07:54
gatekeepertimi, this works because this is what i did: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox07:54
draikClick on that and you will get the source that you will need07:54
dr_williswork time for me.. byeee07:54
timik07:54
timigatekeeper07:56
timii enabled multiverse and universe and i still cant apt-get that?07:56
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timiis there somother repository i need to enable07:56
Mnabilhello , how can change the screen resoultion in KDE ?!07:56
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Hawkwind!screenres07:57
ubotuI know nothing about screenres - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:57
Hawkwind!res07:57
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ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:57
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rocketman768Mnabil, you need to edit your xorg.conf file. Search for it on google.08:01
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Ace2005Hi all08:06
charlie5to make more swap space, do i just create a new swap partition anywhere on hardrive and kubu will pick it up and start using it ?08:06
charlie5hi Ace2005 :)08:06
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Ace2005charlie5: hi08:07
aliasfredcharlie5: you need to explicitly tell ubuntu to do it08:07
ChefWill!swapsaq08:08
ubotuI know nothing about swapsaq - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:08
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ChefWill!swapfaq08:08
ubotuI know nothing about swapfaq - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:08
ChefWillcharlie5: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq08:08
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admiral_proFTWis there a way to password protect one folder08:08
aliasfred:))08:08
admiral_proFTW(pron joke here)08:08
ChefWillcharlie5: see step 608:08
charlie5aliasfred: ah, ok, thamks ... i've just found section in systems settings for it i think08:08
Ace2005Does anyone know what i can use to make swf files for splashy apart from Macromedia Flash which i don't have08:08
aliasfredcharlie5: the link from ChefWill were for you08:09
charlie5ChefWill: thanks ... that will probably answer my next few q's :)08:09
aliasfred!SwapFaq08:10
ubotuI know nothing about SwapFaq - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:10
aliasfredok i dont get it :)08:10
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Ace2005oh and i now also want to knwo how to password protect a folder too08:10
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rr72Ace2005~ just change the permissions so that only the owner can veiw and modify08:12
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paxmanhi, does anybody now if you can install freevo on kubuntu LTS08:12
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Tommy2k4how can i login to kde again after formatting /home08:13
galorinpaxman, I don't know about freevo, but I've used kubuntu as the base for Mythtv08:13
Tommy2k4im in failsafe mode now08:13
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Tommy2k4kde session gives error saying kstartupconfig cannt be started08:14
aliasfredTommy2k4: recreate the users08:14
paxmangalorin, is there a package ? or from source ?08:14
Tommy2k4how?08:14
secleinteerhey, does any1 know how to make app buttons in the taskbar automatically open apps in maximize mode instead of restore mode?08:14
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timiwht does it mean when it says it cant find a package you know exists08:15
galorinpaxman, there is a package, but firewire is broken, and it's an older version in tre repos.  I can give you a link to a good site for setting up Mythtv if you like08:15
Tommy2k4timi u need to enable the proper repos08:15
Ace2005timi: it means you could be wrong or you're searching using the wrong name08:15
paxmanyes if u can08:16
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timiive enabled every repository08:16
Tommy2k4how do i recreate the users after reformatting /home08:16
Tommy2k4timi try !info packagename in this channel08:16
timiim trying to get flash, and acrode at stuff08:16
ShinzetsuIve got a Minimize Window-thingy stuck on my screen08:16
Ace2005timi: tried automatix?08:16
timino08:17
Shinzetsutext bubble08:17
Ace2005or easyubuntu?08:17
timiis it better to use automatix08:17
timiisntead of doing it manually08:17
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Ace2005timi: i just found it easier to tick some boxes and watch it do the work08:18
galorinpaxman, one moment.  This is the one I used:  http://www.abarbaccia.com/   Oh, have you got TV tuner card in your box?08:18
h3sp4wnautomatix often breaks things - doing it manually is best08:18
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timiwell i installed firefox and 915resolution adn gimp using apt-get08:18
timiive enabled multiverse and universe08:19
galorinOh, if you decide to go with Mythtv, head on over to #mythtv-users.. as #mythtv is a dev-only room.08:19
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timiwht else is ther to enable, im doing it exactly the way ubuntu guide is telling me too08:19
paxmanthere is one - not sure if its picked up though - but will look at site - thanks08:19
galorinpaxman, which card is it?08:19
paxmanflyvideo 300008:20
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paxmangalorin, do u know of any other software simillar to freevo ?08:20
galorinpaxman, never heard of it.. I guess the most important thing is the chipset.08:21
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galorinpaxman, just a moment on thaat one..08:21
h3sp4wntimi: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree mozilla-acroread08:22
Ace2005timi: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" should work08:23
timicant find the package08:23
timido i need upgrade first08:23
timii have all the respositories enabled08:23
galorinpaxman, there were others, but a quick google, and it looks like most of the other Linux PVR alternatives aren't in active development anymore.08:24
Tommy2k4how can i login to kde again after formatting /home08:24
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cotroleri have kubuntu 5.10 can I update to version 6.06 ?08:25
paxmangalorin, thanks - i'll try setup from source ( freevo ) but it looks daunting .. good site on mythtv08:25
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cotrolerI am using Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) how do I update to the newly released version 6.06 ?08:27
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gnomefreak!upgrade08:28
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.08:28
galorinpaxman, when my in-law wanted a PVR I looked at both, and Myth seemed to be more mature, and offered what he wanted.. you might have different requirements though.08:28
cotrolertnx gnomefreak08:28
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Ace2005I just realised i have a problem with flash, konqueror and firefox have different versions, konqueror and opera: 7.0.63.0 firefox: 7.0.25.008:29
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Ace2005how do i get firefox to use the new one08:30
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timiyou know how ubuntu has a desktop hide button08:36
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timidoes kubuntu have a desktop hide button08:36
timiso you can clear everything thats on the desktop08:37
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paxmangalorin, can mythtv play mp3 and dvds ?08:38
galorintimi, yes, it does.08:38
galorinpaxman, yes, it can.08:38
RobMongoosetimi - right click your menu panel and click add applet to panel - the butoon you're after should be in there08:38
paxmangalorin, oh ok - i thought mythtv was only for TV08:38
galorinpaxman, for both you need the appropriate libraries first.08:38
galorinpaxman, nope, mythtv also has frontends for web, weather, video library, photo library... umm, MAME and other console emulators.. loads of stuff.08:39
paxmangalorin, so its basically same then - i had read blog somewhere that was probably misleading - what did u setup for control - remote ?08:41
galorinpaxman, wireless keyboard (nifty laptop-like thing with touchpad for a mouse) and a remote.08:42
galorinpaxman, blogs aren't the most reliable sources...08:42
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Ademanis there a program that will verify a cd's integrity (like, compare it to an iso?) other than k3b?08:43
galorinused the ATI remote wonder, the earlier version of the remote, that was just a keyboard extension, no worries about LIRC08:43
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paxmangalorin, i know but from name - i also assumed its more just tv recording08:43
timiwhat are the security repositories good for08:43
uniqtimi: not by default, but you can add it yourself. right click on the panel and add panel program.. find it in the list.08:44
uniqtimi: security updates.08:44
timithansk igot it08:44
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galorinpaxman, tv recording is what it does best, and how it started, but as it's grown, they folded stuff in.08:44
timiok so i should enable them then right08:44
uniqyes.08:44
timiok08:44
Tommy2k4i cant login after i reformatted /home it says xstartupconfig could not be started08:44
Tommy2k4what do i need to od08:44
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galorinTommy2k4, does each user have their own directory in /home?08:45
Tommy2k4only 1 user and i used mkdir to make the directory which may of been abad idea?08:45
paxmangalorin, thanks i'll give it a try, freevo looks a bit to hard to install and there does not seem to be too much info on web - unless u use debian and not in the mood for that08:46
uniqtommy2k4: does the user own the directory you created? or does root own it?08:46
Tommy2k4how do i check from konsole08:46
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uniqtommy2k4: 'ls -lah /home'08:46
admiral_proFTWcd /home08:46
admiral_proFTWdir08:46
galorinpaxman, most of the stuff for Deb will work for kubuntu.. to some extent.08:47
Tommy2k4owned by root08:47
galorinpaxman, neither is a walk in the park, but mythtv is fairly straightforward.08:47
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uniqtommy2k4: then chown it to your user. 'sudo chown username.username -R /home/userdir'08:48
timiyou know in windows wnen you hit cntrl+alt+delete and the process manager or w/e comes up, whts the kde equivalent of that and how do you get to it08:48
||Trayer||!ati08:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:48
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paxmangalorin, ya but its got some issues with python version and has a million depencies - and i couldn't find a package they all seem like older versions08:48
uniqtimi: ctrl+esc08:48
galorinpaxman, Ah, I see.. that could slow things down a bit LOL.08:48
Tommy2k4ty uniq time to test08:48
admiral_proFTWtimi, i think you can also edit the command from the K menu08:49
admiral_proFTWor rather, the shortcut08:49
Tommy2k4ty uniq time to test08:49
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paxmangalrin, they should be releasing freevo version 2 sometime soon, so i'll try mythtv for now.08:49
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galorinpaxman, All things considered, freevo would still give you python headaches if they insist on building against latest & greatest.08:51
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tommyty uniq :D08:51
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navinhi there folks!!08:53
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navinanyone's tried SGL on Kubuntu?08:53
Ace2005nope sgl isn't out yet, i don't think the devs have started on that yet08:55
paxmangalorin, if mythtv works - i'll keep it - had enough of python for a while ..08:55
galorinpaxman, follow the link I gave you, and you should be fine.. and don't be afraid to hit #mythtv-users and google.08:55
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paxmangalorin, sorry - what is Monolith Media Center about ? is that prepacked deal or something ?08:57
galorinpaxman, yep.  you buy a pre-built box, with Myth pre-installed.  If I ever have to set up a mythbox for a paying client, I'm ordering one of them.08:58
galorinsaves my hassle.08:58
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paxmangalorin, LOL how long it take to setup ?08:59
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DeshHi, I have an nforce3 motherboard, but I would like to know the socket it uses, or at least the exact version so I can look that up. How would I do this on Kubuntu?09:00
galorinpaxman, a couple hours, compiling, installing, and editing configs.  Then a couple months making it work right for my perfectionist brother-in-law that no electronic device has ever worked for.09:00
galorinI had his mythtv box running for 2 weeks solid, under heavy use before I gave it to him.  He crashed it within an hour.09:01
galorinand I mean 2 weeks without so much as a ctl+alt+backspace09:02
paxmangalorin, LOL well this ones for me - want to show friend who just bought MS media center setup - cost him a fortune09:02
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navinoops!!! i meant XGL09:02
navinanyone's tried XGL yet?09:02
navinon Kubuntu?09:02
navincould someone direct me to the appropiate how-to?09:03
Tommy2k4!xgl09:03
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ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:03
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galorinpaxman, I'm thinking of grabbing a tv tuner card myself and dropping it in my server.  Just to show him that it does work without problems09:04
navinThanks a lot Ubotu!!09:04
timihow do i edit my xmodmap09:05
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timisudo kate xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap09:05
paxmangalorin, maybe make a setup ( mythtv ) in virtual pc - xen ?09:06
timiis that what  i do, im trying assign some extra buttons09:06
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Hawkwindtimi: kdesu kwrite <file>09:07
galorinI'm not sure how xen would handle the PCI interrupts, since it needs to pull a lot of data off the tuner card... Maybe ask in #mythtv-users.  I've been meaning to try xen for a while...09:07
HawkwindReplace kwrite with your favorite editor, and <file> with the name of the file you want to edit09:07
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eshed i can't install SiS650 graphics driver for linux ... nothing works D: i found the driver and tried more drivers, but nothing works...!09:09
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paxmangalorin, ya might be tick with tv card but the rest should work - tried xen on SUSE havn't tried on ubuntu yet - on amd64 dual09:10
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timiwht is ksplash09:10
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galorinpaxman, nice.  If xen works, with that much horsepower, if you've got some spare low-end comps, look into LTSP as well.09:10
timi!ksplash09:10
ubotuI know nothing about ksplash - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:10
kOpterYello :) I've got a question: How can I change the font of the firefox toolbar?09:11
kOpterIt's not changing when I change my KDE settings09:11
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HawkwindkOpter: There is an option to change GTK fonts or use QT style fonts where GTK is or something in kcontrol09:11
paxmangalorin, but was dissapointed coz i found out my cpu couldn't support proper virtuliztion and i thought it could - its a socket 939 and not AM209:11
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HawkwindkOpter: kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> GTK styles & fonts09:12
galorinpaxman, ah... As I said, I've thought about trying out xen, but haven't yet.. plus no cause to need it as yet09:12
kOpterHawkwind : Why is it always that simple :)?09:13
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HawkwindkOpter: Heh09:13
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kOpterHawkwind : Now to get me tahoma :)09:14
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Ace2005has anyone here tried to compile firefox with qt?09:14
galorinpaxman, and here I am, not able to remember what socket my mobo uses...09:15
kOpterNo! The ubuntuforums are down :(09:15
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kOpterThank god for google cache :)09:16
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timican somone help me get pdf flash etc, i ve addd everypossible repositiory, updated, upgraded, and i still cant apt-get like the wiki says i should be able to09:16
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paxmangalorin, well i found out the hard way - coz when i was buying chip thought it would support .. for xen..09:17
kOptertimi > Did you do an apt-get update ?09:17
timii did an upgrade?09:17
timiim updating now09:17
kOpterWell if you set new repositories to your sources, you need to get a list of what's in them.. you do that by updating09:18
timiok09:18
galorinpaxman, ouch.. that's gotta hurt the wallet a bit...  Next time my motherboard dies, I'll have to look at an AM2 board.  I've got one of the earlier boards, don't think it'll even take dual-core chips.09:18
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kOptertimi > If you have enabled the right repositories, it should then be able to find flash09:18
kOptertimi > You're looking for flashplugin-nonfree09:19
timiyeah i enabled multiverse and universe09:19
timiyes09:19
timiit showing the repositories in the update and they are enabled in adept09:19
timii was able to apt get firefox and 915resolution no problem, and gimp09:20
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timicant find the package09:21
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draik_navin I tried XGL09:22
kOptertimi > Open a konsole and type: apt-cache search flashplugin09:22
draik_Complications so I deleted it and kept it simple with KDE09:22
paxmangalorin, ya but i needed a new computer anyway was getting a dual anyway - so thought i could look at xen aswell - no real need just out of intrest09:23
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Ace2005timi: Go here and get the deb and install it http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/09:24
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Ace2005timi: get  flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.63.5_i386.deb09:24
kOpterAcre2005 : Why use the deb When it's in multiverse?09:24
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timihey i found something in adept09:25
bobbyyuI have a problem with my Kubuntu Dapper09:25
bobbyyuI mean Adept09:25
timilibflash-mozplugin09:25
timiis that it09:25
timimaybe09:25
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admiral_proFTWbobbyyu, what is it?09:25
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kOptertimi > I think you haven't enabled multiverse or you haven't updated..09:26
draikI have a bit of a printer sharing issue09:26
bobbyyuWhen it installs, it keeps saying "There was an error commiting changes. There was probably a problem downloading some packages or else the commit would break packages."09:26
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draikI was sharing my printer from my laptop to my dekstop...09:26
timiive def. done both09:26
timi just installed libflash-mozplugin09:27
timiim going to see if it works09:27
draikand my desktop was on windoze09:27
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kOptertimi > Can you run a: sudo apt-get update ?09:27
draiknow I dual boot Kubuntu with windoze09:27
draikAnyone know how to get Kubuntu to share the printer?09:27
kOptertimi > Just to be sure :) Does it say dapper/multiversie there?09:27
timiyeah i already did09:27
timiand it did say that09:28
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draikOh, and Kubuntu has the drivers installed for using the Printer09:28
admiral_proFTW!print09:28
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:28
kOptertimi> And the apt-get search flashplugin still gives you nothing?09:28
admiral_proFTWdraik, something like that?09:28
draikThank you admiral_proFTW09:28
draikThat's what I was looking for09:28
timiyeah nothing09:28
kOpter!chuck09:28
ubotuI know nothing about chuck - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:28
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timiapt get search?09:28
timilike in console09:28
timior just search in adept09:29
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admiral_proFTWdammit, apt-get is being silly09:29
kOpterYep09:29
senseiNorris <309:29
admiral_proFTWi do a sudo apt-get update09:29
admiral_proFTWand it returns some hits09:29
admiral_proFTWand got stuck on some headers09:29
bobbyyuHas anybody gotten the same error as I did?09:29
galorinpaxman, I've been toying with vmware-player, and I keep DamnSmallLinux tucked away, and bring that up in qemu on occasion.09:29
timisearch is an invalid command09:29
admiral_proFTWbobbyyu, i dunno, I never had that happen09:30
kOptertimi> Sorry apt-cache search flashplugin09:30
draikTHANK YOU admiral_proFTW!!! THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!!! PERFECT!!!09:30
markc_is it possible that the current offline issue with some ubuntu servers is releated to this issue ? -> http://lwn.net/Articles/191417/09:30
admiral_proFTWdraik, awesome09:30
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timinothing happens09:31
admiral_proFTWbtw, when you have a problem, you can do a ![something]  and one of the bots can help09:31
admiral_proFTW!samba09:31
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:31
admiral_proFTWdraik, like that09:31
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kOpter~chuck09:32
bobbyyuAdept is full of problems!09:32
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kOpter!defoma-font09:34
ubotuI know nothing about defoma-font - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:34
kOpter!defoma09:34
ubotuI know nothing about defoma - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:34
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draikadmiral_proFTW > Yup. That will definitely work for me. Thank you for your help... Cross your nodes and hope it works09:35
timikOpter this is wht i get09:36
timiHit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/universe Packages09:36
timiHit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Packages09:36
Ace2005timi: why don't you just get it from here, its the same thing the repos give you: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/09:36
kOpterAce2005 > No, becaus then he will not get automatic updates09:36
kOptertimi > You're using the backports.. why?09:36
timiim wht09:37
paxmangalorin, i installed debian today ( first time ) to try freevo - its amazing how far ubuntu has come in such a short time09:37
timii just copied text from konsonle09:37
Ace2005kOpter: with the frequencey of the flash updates that wouldn't be such a concern09:37
kOptertimi > You are searching trough the dapper-backports packages09:37
timithat was from update09:37
timiapt-get update09:37
timiwhat line should i be looking of for again09:37
rocketman768anybody, where can i get a deb package for mkinitrd?09:37
kOptertimi > I understand.. is there a line there that reads http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages09:38
timino09:38
kOptertimi > You need that :)09:38
timialright how do i add that09:38
galorinpaxman, I'm running debian on my webserver.  This is my first foray into (k)ubuntu.  Been a Slacker for the past 3 years09:38
markc_rocketman768: dpkg -S mkinitrd09:38
kOptertimi > Do you know hoe to change repositories in Adept?09:38
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timiyes09:38
kOptertimi > Okay, just remove al the -backports :)09:39
kOptertimi > Then update.. and then look for the flashplugin09:39
timiok09:39
rocketman768markc_: thanks09:39
kOpterAce2005> Yes I understand that.. but would timi?09:39
markc_rocketman768: or apt-cache search mkinitrd if you don't think it's already onboard09:40
galorinpaxman, before that, Mandrake.09:40
timii still havent enbaled anything called multiverse09:40
timido i need to edit the universe line to have it read universe multiverse09:40
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kOptertimi > It has to say dapper universe multiverse09:41
timiok mine just said universe09:41
timiso i just need to edit that line09:41
timii assume09:41
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kOptertimi > Yeah.. i'll double check for you..09:41
Ace2005timi:  how about you just get a new sources list http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:42
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markc_fwiw this is a good alias for checking locally installed deb packages -> alias lsd='dpkg --get-selections | awk "{print \$1}" | sort | grep'09:42
Chousukelsd. :D09:42
markc_list debs09:42
kOptertimi > universe multiverse should work09:42
markc_lsd . (to show all installed debs)09:43
kOptertimi > Then fetch updates09:43
paxmangalorin, debbian must be good but i didn't have time to start configuring everything - starting at network card - on kubuntu using wireless with no problem09:43
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kOptertimi > Then search: flashplugin09:43
timiok09:44
galorinpaxman, ubuntu did set up pretty quick, but Deb was no bother for me, started with a netinstall and built up what I needed.  Very trim machine that needs a bit more RAM.. again.09:44
timiahah thank you09:45
kOptertimi > You're welcome :)09:45
paxmangalorin, i must try play a bit more with debian -09:46
kOptertimi > Sources are allways tricky for a beginner :)09:46
rocketman768markc_: the mkinitrd is in /etc/mkinitrd, but the actual script is not there...weird, why would the mkinitrd.conf still be there?09:46
kOptertimi > You should now be able to find almost everything you want in Adept09:46
galorinpaxman, then again, my webserver is a 300MHz box with 128 meg of RAM, and sad to say.. doesn't host any sites that get more than 10 hits a WEEK!09:46
paxmangalorin, what webserver - apache09:47
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galorinpaxman, yep.09:48
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galorinjust because I was already familiar with setting it up, virtual hosts, etc.09:48
paxmangalorin, have u looked at ruby on rails ?09:49
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draikadmiral_proFTW > I got a bit of a hiccup here...09:49
paxmancan run on apache i think09:49
galorinpaxman, nope.  Heard of it, yes but not done anything with it.  My pages are all XhTML+CSS, nothing fancy.09:50
paxmangalorin, started looking at it - looks good - but then got side tracked - started learning lisp - now sidetracked again looking at mythtv09:51
galorinpaxman, I know the feeling.  I'm currently playing around with vmware-player and keeping a toddler entertained.09:52
galorinUh oh, Silent Witness is starting soon, gtg09:53
rocketman768where is mkinitrd in kubuntu?09:53
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crimsunrocketman768: you want mkinitramfs instead.09:53
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Ace2005help $qtdir shows nothing09:53
Ace2005even though i'm running kde now09:53
rocketman768crimsun: why is that?09:54
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uniqrocketman768: don't you want 'update-initramfs'?09:55
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rocketman768uniq: I am just trying to get some sort of initial ramdisk so i can actually boot linux on my new kernel. i don't know what i need09:57
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raetsel99rocketman I think you want mkinitrd09:58
crimsunrocketman768: are you using dapper?09:59
rocketman768crimsu: yes, just upgraded09:59
crimsunrocketman768: then you want mkinitramfs10:00
crimsun(or update-initramfs)10:00
crimsunwe no longer use mkinitrd10:00
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markc_rocketman768: initramfs-tools  then look at /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf10:00
rocketman768crimsun: ok, thanks for letting me know10:00
raetsel99do we not, crimsun? :o)10:00
timialright so i got flash player in mozilla, but there is no audio?10:00
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sponixtimi:  turn on your volume ? :p10:01
timino10:01
raetsel99you have sounds working in general, timi?10:01
crimsunraetsel99: no, we don't.10:01
timiyes10:01
timilemme check on something10:01
Agiosadjust your mixer settings10:02
raetsel99ok, crimsun.  Why's that then?10:02
crimsunraetsel99: because we initramfs10:02
timiyes i have sound10:02
raetsel99ok10:02
crimsunwe use, rather10:02
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timiany ideas as to why i have no soudn on flash player10:05
draikAnyone here know how to configure a network to share a USB printer on Kubuntu with a WinXP laptop (same router)?10:05
timialso a .ogg file isnt playing on amarok, this is the examples sax file that came with kubuntu when i installed it10:05
crimsunit's probably due to flash being hardcoded to use esd10:05
raetsel99This might help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=108423510:05
raetsel99what do you have in system-settings-Sound-Hardware for the Audio device? Is it automatic?10:06
timiwhere do i go to find that?10:07
timik control?10:07
raetsel99On the K menu then System-Settings10:07
raetsel99Then Sound & Multimedia timi10:07
timiok and i was looking for automatic where10:09
raetsel99Under Hardware tab10:09
raetsel99for Audio Device10:09
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timiautodetecgt10:10
timiis wht it says10:10
raetsel99well you could try chaning that to Alsa, I've had to do that on some systems to get sounds working ( you can change it back easily)10:11
raetsel99I've never quite got my head round all the different types of sound manager in Linux. Choice is a blessing and a curse10:11
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Ace2005how do i make konversation spell check like kopete?10:13
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Ace2005you know so that words that are spelled correctly like thiis would be red10:13
manu_bonjour10:13
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Ace2005not spelled correctly10:14
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raetsel99don't know if you can Ace200510:14
manu_french ?10:14
Ace2005oh :(10:14
Ace2005any irc clients that can do that?10:14
manu_i search a frch10:14
aliasfredmanu_: #kubuntu-fr pour parler en francais ou #ubuntu-fr10:14
aliasfred!fr10:15
manu_thx you10:15
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:15
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raul_hi all10:18
Ace2005hi10:18
raul_can anybody tell me what decoder do i have to install so i could see a movie with totem10:18
raul_???10:18
timihey whoever told me to do the ALSA thanks10:19
raetsel99I think it was I timi :o)10:19
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timiwell thank you raetsel9910:19
raetsel99check your other sound stuff works as well timi, it can be a bit of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other10:19
raul_ can anybody tell me what decoder do i have to install so i could see a movie with totem10:20
macd!tell raul_  about restricted10:20
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||Trayer||!ati10:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:21
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||Trayer||Is the wiki slow or what...?10:21
stefan_hallo, what's in this line incorrect?:exec 3< <( while true; do echo "hello"; sleep 10; done)10:21
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snider2005hi all10:22
snider2005are you here_10:22
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raetsel99hi snider200510:22
siiloHi all10:22
snider2005where are you from10:22
siilojust installed kubuntu, trying it...10:23
raetsel99Hi Silo, you like it?10:23
raetsel99From Birmingham, UK Snider10:23
siilolooks cool so far10:23
raetsel99You used other distros before siilo?10:24
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siilobtw, where to find wincodecs for videos and lame for encoding mp3's?10:24
uniq!codecs10:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:24
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raetsel99!tell siilo about codecs10:25
siiloraetsel, I've had sue for 5 years, tried others but didn't like10:25
siilosorry, suse it was10:25
raul_sth is blocking my coundcard for mms.....what should i do10:25
siiloubotu, thanks!10:25
ubotuI know nothing about thanks! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:25
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raul_???10:25
timiok so eye candy10:26
timiwidgets they are called karamab no?10:26
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raetsel99superkaramba?10:26
raul_sth is blocking my coundcard for mms.....what should i do10:26
timiyeah thats it10:26
raul_???10:26
timiis that integrated10:26
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raetsel99Should be under the Utilitiles menu timi, but I've never used it10:27
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timii have buttons on the front of my laptop that dont work10:27
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timii found intstuctions to make them work but i need to know how i edit my xmod map10:28
mehdi#kubuntu-fr10:28
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timi!xmodmap10:28
ubotuI know nothing about xmodmap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:28
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timianyone know how to do that10:29
mariuxif i download kernel-sources with adept, are the gentoo .config there by default?10:30
mariuxooops, i mean kubuntu .config10:30
raetsel99try this timi http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8250010:30
Agiosman xmodmap ?10:31
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josh__how the hell do u use an ipod with linux10:34
mariuxstart amarok10:34
timithat stuff works for ubuntu not kubuntu i think10:35
mariuxmedia devices10:35
timithere is no nautilus in kubuntu10:35
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siilo!lame10:36
ubotuI know nothing about lame - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:36
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rocketman768so, i just made a new kernel and initramfs.img, and I get a crapload of "modprobe could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15.7/modules.dep no such file or directory"10:39
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rocketman768is this something wrong in my initramfs image?10:40
GaiaX11Where do I enable icon zooming for panel in kubuntu?10:40
rocketman768those errors are on bootup btw10:41
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siiloStill, i cant find lame, mp3 encoder to rip cd:s10:42
MWelchUKHi Guys10:42
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MWelchUKIs anyone finding the desktop in dapper to be a little less than stable?10:43
trappistsiilo: have to enable the universe/multiverse repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list10:43
rocketman768MWelchUK: i find the whole thing to be unstable10:44
siilotrappist, thanks, ill try10:44
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timiTo disable the very loud system bell in the console, uncomment "set bell-style none" in /etc/inputrc. The annoying noises in KDE can be disabled through its own tool.10:46
timiwhat does uncomment mean, delete?10:46
GaiaX11Is there any icon zooming in kubuntu?10:47
MWelchUKrocketman768: Guess I should have a look in the bug tracker.10:47
raetsel99timi it means remove the leading # symbol10:47
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raetsel99a # makes it a comment so you comment something out by putting a # in front10:47
raetsel99and you uncomment it by removing the #10:48
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timii dont think i have an xmodmap file10:51
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rocketman768MWelchUK: the bug tracker is loaded down. I have already experienced 2 or 3 of the bugs.10:51
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chxhi. Writing to kio_svn is not supported. that's a bit of a problem. how can I integrate svn committing then into , say, KATE?10:55
raetsel99well time to go, bye10:56
timihow do i get rid of the annyoing beep when i backspace to far in console10:56
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xylusanyh0one online?10:57
xylusi need alitle help\10:57
blueranger!ask10:58
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:58
xylusthanks10:58
xylusumm im using kubuntu and i wana change my folders from the blue ones to the gray ones10:58
timii tried xset b off10:58
xylusbut it wont let me activate them10:58
timibut the beep is still there10:58
xylusany idea how i would do this?10:59
xylusperhaps thats a stupid question one more anyone know of a good fserving irc cliant for linux?11:00
prxqI have a problem with konqueror. It is easily a factor 10 slower than firefox. is this a known problem?11:00
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MetaMorfoziSiirc is there an app to change the colors of the dir, try look for it on kde-apps.org11:02
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Agiosxylus: righgt click on the folder icon, properties, click the icon, change it to whatever you want.11:05
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draik!samba11:06
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:06
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timiis there anyway to ge rid of that annoying beep in konsole11:07
timii set system bell to 011:07
timithere is still a sound11:07
timii set notification off11:07
timithere is still a sound11:07
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ricardodoes anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?11:10
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alvaroHi11:13
draiktimi11:14
alvaroWhat app do you recommend me? Something like Automatix or Easy Ubuntu but specially for Kubuntu?? To install the basic things.11:14
draikClick on Settings...11:14
draikthen go to Bell and select NONE11:14
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timino i figured it out11:15
timiyou ahve to go to configure notifications11:15
draikk11:15
timiif you dont want to have to set bell to none everytime11:15
draikand I just learned something... thanks timi11:16
timi p11:16
timi np11:16
draikAnyone here setup Samba before?11:17
alvaroWhat program should I install? Something like Automatix or Easy Ubuntu but specially for Kubuntu?? To install the basic things. Pardon my english.Thans11:17
timidraik no anything about xmodmap11:18
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timiim trying to set up some hot keys11:18
RandomDude16anyone there?11:18
RandomDude16I need help getting php411:18
timii have instruction it just says edit xmodmap and i dont know how to open it or w/e11:18
RandomDude16and myql4 working.11:18
draiktimi...11:18
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draik<~~~NEWBIE!!!11:18
timilol11:19
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timiwell anyone else know anything about xmodmap11:19
draikI found it rather funny that your question about firefox default was what I did about 5 minutes before you asked...11:19
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draik!xmodmap11:19
ubotuI know nothing about xmodmap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:19
draikwell, I suppose you can edit a file within konsole with 'sudo nano -w /path/directory/xmodmap'11:20
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alvaropls could you tell me just that, I am very noob in kubuntu, and I would like an installer to setup the basic things (codecs flash, etc)111:21
draikbut I don't know what xmodmap is or what it does, so I assume it's a text file11:21
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Lord_Athurhi all, which firewall do you recommend me?11:23
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alvaro:(11:25
ricardodoes anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?11:26
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trappistLord_Athur: I use ipkungfu11:27
h3sp4wnLord_Athur: I think pf on OpenBSD or FreeBSD is the best - Its more logical the way its configured (Otherwise just use iptables I guess)11:27
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nophello11:27
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trappisth3sp4wn: the pf syntax is a little easier, but iptables is perfectly logical11:27
jmichaelxhas anyone in here ever had a kubuntu install just simply die on them? i bought a new laptop about a month ago, installed kubuntu on it immediately and it has been working great, but i came home from work today, and kubuntu will no longer load.....11:28
draikLord_Athur, I think GuardDog is good11:29
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Lord_Athurthanks all11:29
h3sp4wntrappist: maybe logical was the wrong word it looks messy would probably be a better way of describing it11:29
jmichaelxit acts like kubuntu is loading... the blue kubuntu logo comes up, and it goes through loading all of its stuff, but after it is done, kdm does not start up, and it just goes back to the blue logo and stays there11:29
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total_linux_geekjmichaelx have you tried booting into single user mode and trying to repair it11:31
Lord_Athurdraik, I can't find the prograam you told me with pat11:32
alvarowhich automated script do you use in Kubuntu for installing basic things? (codecs,flash) like automatix in ubuntu11:32
Lord_Athur*apt11:32
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jmichaelxtotal_linux_geek: how in the world do i do that? this is like being BSOD'd11:32
total_linux_geekkinda11:32
jmichaelxi never thought linux would do this to me lol11:32
total_linux_geekdo you have grub installed11:33
total_linux_geekor lilo11:33
jmichaelxtotal_linux_geek: grub11:33
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total_linux_geekcool11:33
jmichaelxwhy would this have happened??11:33
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total_linux_geekcould be a corrupted conf file11:34
draikLord_Athur, http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/Guarddog-Review-23019.shtml11:34
jmichaelxman, this sucks11:34
total_linux_geekyeah11:34
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jmichaelxso linux does this to people off and on?11:35
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total_linux_geekwhat kernel is it that you are running and which version of kubuntu11:35
wolfmanzi corrrupted my xorg.conf last night and that would hault the system while booting11:35
timijmicheal your having a problem with xserver11:35
jmichaelxtotal_linux_geek: i am running dapper, with the most recent i686 kernel11:35
timijmichealx are you on the same computer you were having thi problem on11:35
total_linux_geekok11:35
jmichaelxtimi: no11:36
timiok11:36
total_linux_geekso that makes is 2.6.15-26-68611:36
timiso you cant boot into kubunutu right11:36
jmichaelxtotal_linux_geek: i think so11:36
timib/c the same thing happened to and i installed in the safe graphical mode11:36
timiand it worked fine11:36
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total_linux_geekdo you have one harddisk or two11:36
jmichaelxtimi: you installed what?11:36
timikubuntu11:36
jmichaelxtotal_linux_geek: it is a laptop11:36
total_linux_geekso one11:37
jmichaelxtimi: i have to reinstall?11:37
timii installed the first time in regular mode using an alternate disk11:37
timiand it did exactly wht you describe11:37
timiyes11:37
timijust get the regular pc disk, if you alread have it then use that disc11:37
total_linux_geekso boot it and press esc when it is loading grub11:37
total_linux_geekpress 'c'11:37
wolfmanzjmichae;x can you hit ctrl alt f1 and get a command prompt when it stops on ya?11:37
timiboots up do install in safe graphical mode11:37
jmichaelxtimi: what advantage did doing that have over a fresh install?11:37
jmichaelxtotal_linux_geek: ok will do11:38
timiinstalling in safe graphical mode somehow worked11:38
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jmichaelxtimi: i don't get what advantage that has11:38
jmichaelxbrb11:38
timiif your using a desktop/laptop with non standard resolution xserver wont recongising it and wil lhang11:38
slow-motionn811:39
timianyways im trying to set up some hot keys and i don tknow how to edit my xmodmap11:39
timianyone know how11:39
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jmichaelxtimi: that is what it is! i installed 955resolution11:40
timiok11:40
jmichaelxhowever, after i installed 955resolution, i rebooted and it worked fine11:40
timigood11:40
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bluerangercan anyone help me out here, i'm in the live cd and sudo cfdisk gives: "FATAL ERROR: Cannot read disk drive", fdisk -l doesnt show the /dev/hda/, BUT gparted shows /dev/hda.11:40
jmichaelxthis would have been the 2nd reboot, and it will not work, as i said11:40
bluerangeri havent tried creating partitions with gparted yet...11:41
jmichaelxtotal_linux_geek: i did the esc, c in grub11:41
bluerangerany ideas on why i'm getting those errors with gparted.11:41
bluerangererm, cfdisk*11:41
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timijmichael im a little confused11:41
timii thought the comp you were having this problem with wasnt booting11:42
jmichaelxtimi: ok, the other day i installed 955resolution... i rebooted, it worked fine... i powered down, and now have rebooted again.... now it is not working11:42
jmichaelxtotal_linux_geek: i cannot send private messages11:42
timiok11:43
Lord_Athurthanks all11:43
doppelganger_anyone have any positive comments on running firefox and flash in Wine, as opposed to the native versions?11:43
jmichaelxtotal_linux_geek: i'm not a registered user11:43
doppelganger_i can't stand this flash- out of sync sh*t anymore...  it's driving me nuts11:43
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timioo i c, my problem was it never booted in the first place so its a little different i guess11:44
jmichaelxi hate to say it folks, but i no longer buy the linux being more stable than windows spiel11:44
doppelganger_jmichaelx, type in "/msg nickserv register (pass)11:44
jmichaelxdoppelganger_: ok, ty11:45
doppelganger_without that quote, sorry11:45
MetaMorfoziS!easysource11:45
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:45
jmichaelxtotal_linux_geek: are you still there?11:46
bluerangercan anyone help me out here, i'm getting a fatal error: cannot read disk when using cfdisk and gparted wants me to create a disk label before it allows me to create a new partition.11:46
bluerangerfdisk -l wont even show any partitions.11:47
bluerangeror the physical disc itself.11:47
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ricardodoes anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?11:48
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nanaki_hey, i'm not sure if there's anyone who knows about this stuff here, but i'm wondering about the package gtk2-engines-gtk-qt (the thing that makes gtk apps use your qt style)11:51
nanaki_in firefox this messes up the scrollbar if you're using the default kde scroll buttons style (both on bottom and one on top)11:51
nanaki_apparently this is a known issue with 0.6 and upstream fixed it in 0.711:51
nanaki_how come we're still using 0.6?11:51
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nanaki_if nobody here deals with this kinda stuff, who would i email to talk to about it?11:52
trappistnanaki_: it sort of got stuck there for dapper, won't be fixed until edgy11:52
nanaki_their policy is not to update packages with bug fixes?11:53
trappistnot exactly, but they tend to be awfully conservative about non-security bugfix updates11:53
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trappistit's worth filing a bug on11:53
jmichaelxok i hope this is no offense, but i am going to repost on an issue i am having: has anyone in here ever had a kubuntu install just simply die on them? i bought a new laptop about a month ago, installed kubuntu on it immediately and it has been working great, but i came home from work today, and kubuntu will no longer load..... it acts like kubuntu is loading... the blue kubuntu logo comes up, and it goes through loading all of its stuf11:54
jmichaelx it just goes back to the blue logo and stays there11:54
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trappistthey won't up to 0.7 for sure, but if you give em a working patch that just fixes the bug, there's a chance11:54
nanaki_dammit i thought i was leaving that debian attitude behind going to a more desktop-oriented distro ;)11:54
trappistnanaki_: don't take my word for it, I'm not a developer.  might ask in #ubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-devel11:54
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nanaki_well if it's known to you it's probably known to them too and i guess they'd fix it if they were going to11:55
crimsunnanaki_: file a bug against gtk-qt-engine, assign it to me, please11:55
Search4Lanceraaahahahaha my CPU is at 79 degrees C!11:55
conrad_crimsun: do you know why i'm banned from #ubuntu?11:55
trappistnanaki_: I only know about it because I reported another bug on that package and submitted a patch.  I don't recall the fate of that bug.11:55
crimsunconrad_: I have no idea; I'm not paying close attention to irc atm11:55
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Search4Lancerconrad_: usually when you get banned from a channel, it gives you a reason (if the banning op has the decency to include a reason)11:56
jmichaelx:-(11:56
trappistconrad_: looks like gnomefreak did it.  /msg him if you don't know.11:57
gnomefreakim looking11:57
conrad_Search4Lancer: yea, didn't get one11:57
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conrad_ok, do you know how i change nick?11:57
jmichaelxif anyone was looking at my question, i will be back in about 5-10 minutes and repost11:58
crimsuntrappist: also a gtk2-engines-gtk-qt issue?11:58
conrad_change nick11:58
gnomefreakconrad_: are you livingdaylight?11:58
conrad_yes11:58
conrad_gnomefreak: did you ban me?11:58
gnomefreaki removed it it was tab com;pletion11:58
doppelganger_!crossover11:59
gnomefreaki was trying to get lilbit and tab caught you11:59
ubotuI know nothing about crossover - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:59
conrad_gnomefreak: i don't understand - it was a mistake?11:59
conrad_lol11:59
gnomefreakconrad_: yes11:59
conrad_gnomefreak: ok11:59
gnomefreaki unbanned you right after11:59
doppelganger_gnomefreak...  in kubuntu..11:59
trappistcrimsun: yes, mine had to do with a small typo11:59
doppelganger_;P11:59
crimsuntrappist: please assign it to me11:59
trappistok11:59
crimsun(if it's not already assigned to someone)11:59
bluerangercan anyone help me out here, i'm getting fatal error: cannot read disk with cfdisk in the live cd.12:00
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conrad_gnomefreak: for some reason it still says that i'm banned?12:00
nanaki_crimsun i'm getting ready to file that, just gotta type in the description, how do i assign it to you?12:00
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gnomefreakfixed12:00
bluerangergparted sees the physical disc, but requires me to create a new drive label.12:00
bluerangerand fdisk -l doesnt show the physical disk.12:00
bluerangeri think my partition table and mbr have been corrupted after running qtparted.12:00
gnomefreakconrad_: go for it12:00
doppelganger_I'm on my waaaaaaaay,  home sweeeet hooooooooome12:00
doppelganger_;)12:00
bluerangeranyway to resolve the error in cfdisk so i can rebuild and restore??12:00
conrad_gnomefreak: ok, NOW it works : )12:00
doppelganger_g-night fellows, have a gud'un12:01
crimsunnanaki_: you'll need to Submit the report first12:01
nanaki_ok, few mins i gotta write a nice description for it :)12:01
conrad_by the way anyone know the nick command to change nick?12:01
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gnomefreakconrad_: /nick newnick12:01
bluerangeri've googled an it seems no one has had similar errors that are a result of a similar action.12:01
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trappistcrimsun: it was sitting at 'fix committed' - is that the correct status for something that's been fixed upstream?12:02
crimsunnanaki_: after you've submitted it, click the source package name under the 'Affects' column, then put me in the 'Assigned to' text entry field  (you'll probably have to 'Choose' to search)12:02
crimsuntrappist: I wouldn't touch the Status yet12:02
trappistcrimsun: I didn't, I was just wondering about that12:03
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crimsuntrappist: yes, if it has been fixed upstream but isn't in {K,}Ubuntu yet, that's the correct status12:03
bluerangeranyone??12:03
trappistk12:03
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jbaloulhi all, does anyone know whats going on with microphone input...seems not to be working since latest upgrade12:04
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jbaloulanyone ?12:07
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