[12:01] <Seveas> njs, sepends on the question but let's try 
[12:01] <LjL> njs: no, but they're probably not "support" questions. anyway, i was simply thinking you'd probably find more answers and less noise on #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:01] <ron999> hello
[12:01] <djavie233> magic_ I sent you a PM
[12:02] <fred__> Paladine, very helpful.. it's not my problem if someone is trying to fake me, i just wanna know where they come from and thats it..
[12:02] <fred__> Paladine, im just asking for a feature, what's the problem?
[12:02] <Paladine> fred_ which part of "Is not within the scope of this channel" didn't you understand
[12:02] <nosklo> fred__, sometimes i do some remote administration of some friends computers. I just ask them their ip using gaim and use it to connect to their machines
[12:02] <mnp> LjL: ive got ubuntu, no kubuntu, and i think i got the QT from Lyx
[12:03] <GlassCasket> So I tried modprobing ndiswrapper., but it said that the ndiswrapper module dosen't exist. Any ideas?
[12:03] <LjL> mnp: from lyx? meaning?
[12:03] <Paladine> fred_ you question has absolutelynothing to do with ubuntu
[12:03] <magic_> djavie233: b/c we're not registred users, we can't pm directtly
[12:03] <ron999> Hello, is this the room for ubuntu support?
[12:03] <djavie233> what do you mean not registered? Registered with what?
[12:03] <dyn-afk> LjL meaning that lyx uses the QT library
[12:03] <recon0> ron999: yep.
[12:03] <LjL> ron999: read the channel topic and you'll know ;)
[12:03] <nosklo> ron999, you are in the right place
[12:04] <Paladine> ron999, not official support no, but it is a good place to ask questions regarding ubuntu
[12:04] <fred__> Paladine, sometimes it's better not to talk.. believe me... and btw, thanks for the help :)
[12:04] <Sanne> njs: or you might even get more people who know about versioning in the dev and packaging channels, like #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu.
[12:04] <nosklo> ron999, official community support
[12:04] <LjL> dyn-afk: ok, but for it to have *installed* a version of it that's different from the one in the repos, it'd have to have gotten it somewhere
[12:04] <mnp> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18730
[12:04] <ron999> ok, it's my first time here
[12:04] <Paladine> the topic should say Unofficial Support
[12:04] <magic_>  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
[12:04] <mnp> LjL: Lyx, the LaTeX editor need QT and i think it comes with it in the package
[12:04] <Seveas> Paladine, nonsense
[12:04] <Paladine> since to my knowledge we are not paid
[12:04] <nosklo> PacketScan, it is official
[12:04] <Seveas> Paladine, since when does official mean paid?
[12:04] <nosklo> ops
[12:05] <nosklo> Paladine, it is official
[12:05] <dyn-afk> if you install lyx and it needs the QT library it will be installed as a dependency
[12:05] <djavie233> are you going to register?
[12:05] <Paladine> seveas support is a service people pay for
[12:05] <LjL> mnp: uhm. did you install Lyx in a standard way -- i.e. apt-get, or Synaptic, or whatever -- or did you download it from some site?
[12:05] <magic_>  So you either have a CD/DVD error (the disk is bad) or your hard drive is acting  up
 from what I just saw you type, your hard drive might be the culprit...are you experienced enough to open 'er up and reseat the drive (remove / reattach / make sure connected
[12:05] <Seveas> Paladine, support is a service granted by others. Sometimes for money, sometimes not
[12:05] <mnp> at first from a site, and i struggled and struggled, and then after installing who--knows-what, and it still didnt work, i got it from apt-get
[12:05] <Paladine> I believe ubuntu even has a paid support structure iirc for corporate users
[12:05] <mamatoshi> fred__ :: i also want to upgrade to edgy, but it seems too early.. lol
[12:05] <mnp> LjL: at first from a site, and i struggled and struggled, and then after installing who--knows-what, and it still didnt work, i got it from apt-get
[12:05] <nosklo> Paladine, you can have official and unnoficial support, both being paid
[12:05] <magic_> djavie233: sorry bout the confustion
[12:05] <magic_> confusion
[12:05] <LjL> Paladine, this channel is for support, and it's officially sanctioned by the Ubuntu distribution. so it's official support.
[12:06] <dyn-afk> if you install scribus for example, it'll install the qt library as a dependency if it isn't on your system already
[12:06] <nosklo> Paladine, and you can have official and unofficial free support too
[12:06] <made> hello all..
[12:06] <Seveas> hi made
[12:06] <ron999> I have a problem with ubuntu. can any body help me?
[12:06] <Paladine> official support would normally include liability, we are not liable for anything that happens to users machines as a reslt of supportfrom this channel
[12:06] <Seveas> !anyone > ron999
[12:06] <LjL> mnp: ah, that'd possibly explain it. why don't you do the *opposite* thing, i.e. installing from the repositories by default and *only* resorting to third-party packages if all else fails? ;)
[12:06] <njs> LjL, Sanne: ah, thanks
[12:06] <djavie233> ok, i think I registered
[12:06] <LjL> mnp: anyway, try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libqt3-mt"
[12:07] <made> I have asked this question before.. but I forgot how to setup grub to boot windows first and I'm not finding the correct page on wiki.ubuntu
[12:07] <Paladine> brb
[12:07] <mnp> LjL: it was before i even knoew what the repositories were
[12:07] <dyn-afk> LjL that's what I would do :P
[12:07] <Tommy2k4> "***** Matrox 8MB PCI Graphics Card ***** " would that be better than my integrated i810
[12:07] <djavie233> So, nobody knows what those error messages mean?
[12:07] <Seveas> Tommy2k4, no
[12:07] <ron999> seveas can you help?
[12:07] <Seveas> ron999, just ask
[12:07] <recon0> ron999: could you be a bit more specific?
[12:07] <jrib> made: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the line that says 'default #' where # is some number
[12:07] <Tommy2k4> hm tis hard to find anywhere that still sells pci gfx cards
[12:07] <LjL> dyn-afk: well, if you are aware of the trouble that may arise, then fine, but then don't come here asking for help :D
[12:07] <nosklo> !ask > ron999
[12:07] <dyn-afk> no, I mean, I use the repos to install something
[12:07] <djavie233> magic_ did you receive my PM? i think I registered
[12:08] <mnp> LjL: Reinstallation of libqt3-mt is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[12:08] <dyn-afk> if it isn't in any repos, I use a .deb file
[12:08] <LjL> ?!
[12:08] <magic_> djavies233: I received it...can you see what I type to you?
[12:08] <ron999> ok, when i try to mount my floppy it says could not determine filesystem
[12:08] <made> ok.. if I pastebin my menu.1st can you tell me which number it is.. because I have tried to edit it but it still boots ubuntu by default
[12:08] <LjL> dyn-afk: if it *isn't* in the repos, right. but if it is...
[12:08] <Seveas> ron999, how are you mounting it?
[12:08] <LjL> mnp: ok, try this
[12:08] <dyn-afk> if it's not available as a .deb I can try to convert a .rpm with alien or just compile it from scratch then turn it into a .deb
[12:08] <djavie233> no
[12:08] <GlassCasket> So I tried modprobing ndiswrapper., but it said that the ndiswrapper module dosen't exist. Any ideas?
[12:08] <djavie233> did you register?
[12:08] <recon0> ron999: If you just want to use it, try reformatting it.
[12:08] <magic_> bah....for the pm
[12:09] <dyn-afk> but the repos have a lot of software so there really isn't much need for manual installation of programs
[12:09] <ron999> seveas, i use the little icon or i use a terminal command, it won't let me format it either
[12:09] <LjL> mnp: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libqt3-mt=3:3.3.6-1ubuntu3"
[12:09] <mnp> dyn-afk: i learned about the repos llast week and can't beleive i spent 2 weeks messing around on my own
[12:09] <magic_> djavie233: download a new disc and try that first.  If that doesn't work, open 'er up, make sure the cables are connected, and try again.  that's the best I can offer.
[12:09] <Sanne> made: here it is :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[12:09] <Ackeubu_> Hey i changed gnomes default windows_manager to e16 somewhere, now i have removed e16 and my gnome is messed up. In what file do i change gnomes window_manager??
[12:09] <mnp> LjL: okay, i'm downgrading
[12:10] <djavie233> Well, do I have to download a new disk? i have the iso file still, should I just try to write another CD?
[12:10] <recon0> ron999: have you done it a root? (sudo)
[12:10] <LjL> mnp: and i can't believe lots of people do the same thing (and possibly never even manage to *get* to the repos) :-(  if only you read the *basic* documentation... ;)
[12:10] <magic_> djavie233: sorry I'm not more informative than that...maybe somebody else here can help you out?
[12:10] <LjL> mnp: yeah, do the downgrade. if any package breaks due to it, well, i suppose you can sort that later
[12:10] <ron999> yes recon i used sudo
[12:10] <mnp> LjL: i know... which i am just finding now, ALSO
[12:10] <djavie233> ok
[12:11] <mamatoshi> mnp :: you can remove the lyx and the qt first,, then install the repo version
[12:11] <magic_> djavie233: the iso you have could be corrupt.  delete that one or just rename it, download a new iso and burn from the new one
[12:11] <recon0> ron999: What's the error when you try to format it?
[12:11] <djavie233> thanks anyways magic_ you're the only one that has been paying attention
[12:11] <ron999> wait recon
[12:11] <LjL> mamatoshi: if the Lyx he eventually got is the one from the repos, it doesn't need the newer Qt.
[12:11] <mnp>  mamathoshi: LjL: i just want my sound card to work :(
[12:11] <magic_> djavie233: the iso you have could be corrupt.  delete that one or just rename it, download a new iso and burn from the new one
[12:12] <magic_> djavie233: no problem
[12:12] <recon0> ron999: hint: it's polite to append the other person's handle in a busy channel. It' makes it easier for the other person. as in "recon0:".
[12:12] <mamatoshi> LJL :: okay..
[12:12] <mamatoshi> mnp :: what sound card do you use?
[12:12] <djavie233> magic_ ok, I think I'll just request a CD or buy one off of Amazon for 10 bucks
[12:12] <dyn-afk> lol @ mnp, a door opened when you foudn out about the repos? :P
[12:12] <mnp> mamatoshi: its a intel ich4 chipset that wont get an IRQ
[12:12] <magic_> djavie233: you don't have broadband?
[12:12] <djavie233> But, I can't believe that no one here knows what those error messages mean
[12:12] <seabre> Yeah, the CDs from ubuntu are nice. They even come with stickers now.
[12:13] <Sanne> djavie233: also, be sure to verify the md5sum of your iso agains the md5sum file that should be in the same directory you got the iso from.
[12:13] <djavie233> I have 256K BellSouth DSL
[12:13] <GiGaHuRtZ> !give carlxy restricted formats
[12:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about give carlxy restricted formats - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:13] <Hawk|-> ACTION gives carlxy a book by Stephen King
[12:13] <goonies> for some reason i cant seem to install the nvidia drivers for my system
[12:13] <goonies> =\
[12:13] <LjL> !nvidia
[12:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:13] <dyn-afk> @ seabre: they do come with stickers?
[12:13] <goonies> im following the documentation instructions on the site
[12:13] <ron999> recon0, when i try to format it says cannot initialise device, unable to open any device, formatting cannot continue
[12:13] <dyn-afk> like casebadges?
[12:13] <djavie233> md5sum?????
[12:13] <seabre> dyn: Yeah, they come with stickers
[12:13] <mamatoshi> it suppose to work, i also have that..
[12:13] <gdb> I'd love to have a "Ubuntu Inside" case sticker. ;-)
[12:13] <GlassCasket> Could someone help me please?
[12:13] <recon0> ron999: ... you sure you're floppy is in?
[12:13] <mnp> LjL: okay the downgrade is complete. now what?
[12:13] <dyn-afk> how big are those stickers seabre ?
[12:13] <magic_> djavie233: that's plenty fast to download a new iso...but also listen to Sanne's suggestion above
[12:14] <recon0> GlassCasket: don't ask to ask, just ask
[12:14] <gdb> The little 1 sq inch one that goes on the front.
[12:14] <mamatoshi> mnp :: do this : "lsmod | grep sound"
[12:14] <djavie233> 7 hours? that's not fast!
[12:14] <djavie233> lol
[12:14] <carlxy> Hawk|, I have Gunslinger sitting on the shelf next to me
[12:14] <ron999> dyn, good floppy is in, formatted in windows fat32
[12:14] <mnp> mamatoshi: now what?
[12:14] <LjL> mnp: now nothing, hopefully libqt3-mt-dev should install
[12:14] <recon0> ron999: is the lock on on it?
[12:14] <magic_> djavie233: did you try to do this yesterday or early today?  b/c the site was down / very very slow
[12:14] <magic_> djavie233: try again now
[12:14] <djavie233> Ok, right now I'm on  a Mac and I opened the disk image (the iso file) and I see the md5sum.txt file in there
[12:14] <Inazad> Hi there, I need some help for installing the XP drivers required for ndiswrapper for a WiFi connection....
[12:15] <mnp> nice work
[12:15] <seabre> dyn: ummm, I don't know the dimensions
[12:15] <ron999> recon0 no, tried several disks
[12:15] <seabre> but like
[12:15] <mnp> LjL: nice work, looks like its working. now i can't remember why I even needed to do this!
[12:15] <Sanne> djavie233: the md5sum is a calculated string of letters and numbers that is unique to every fiel. So if you verified it, you can be pretty sure that your iso is ok. Shall I show you what I mean?
[12:15] <recon0> ron999: I'm assuming you're using gnome?
[12:15] <seabre> small
[12:15] <GlassCasket> recon0: I've asked three times already.
[12:15] <GlassCasket> So I tried modprobing ndiswrapper., but it said that the ndiswrapper module dosen't exist. Any ideas?
[12:15] <LjL> mnp: ... to compile some program that uses Qt? :)
[12:15] <recon0> !patience > GlassCasket
[12:15] <seabre> I'd guess 3.5 by 1 inches?
[12:15] <mamatoshi> mnp:: do you see a list of module? if yes, then you supposed can use the sound
[12:15] <ron999> recon it's ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake
[12:15] <mnp> LjL: oh to compile the 6.16 kernel
[12:15] <dyn-afk> thnx seabre
[12:15] <djavie233> I downloaded the iso file last night and left it running over night
[12:15] <Sanne> djavie233: you see the md5sum file inside the iso? Hmmm
[12:15] <djavie233> yea
[12:15] <LjL> mnp: hm, don't think the *kernel* would ever need Qt, though
[12:16] <dyn-afk> now I need to convert from inches to cm :P
[12:16] <djavie233> it's inside the iso file
[12:16] <GlassCasket> Ok
[12:16] <LjL> dyn-afk: google
[12:16] <djavie233> I'm on a Mac right now and I can open disk images
[12:16] <magic_> Sanne: he means inside the folder the iso is in
[12:16] <Sanne> djavie233: I wouldn't know if that's what I mean. Can you tell me where you got the iso from, and it's name?
[12:16] <recon0> ron999: I'll take that as a yes. Right click the bar, hit add, and add the mounter onto the bar. Then try to mount the floppy using that.
[12:16] <Sanne> magic_: are you sure?
[12:16] <mnp> LjL: i think i need it for compiling the kernel? it says so on the page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560
[12:16] <mamatoshi> mnp :: the kernel has nothing to do with qt
[12:16] <mnp> i dont know
[12:16] <ron999> recon the mounter icon is up there
[12:17] <djavie233> I got it from Ubuntu.com and the iso file is named : Ubuntu 6.06 i386
[12:17] <Inazad> Hi there, I need some help for installing the XP drivers required for ndiswrapper for a WiFi connection....
[12:17] <LjL> mnp: that looks stupid.
[12:17] <cello_rasp> i have 2 pointing devices. how do i disable one of them? I cant unplug it because it is part of a composite usb keyboard that includes the other pointing device.
[12:17] <recon0> ron999: I'm at a loss.
[12:17] <mnp> LjL: what?
 dyn-afk: google << I hate google :P
[12:17] <Ackeubu_> which config files does ubuntu use to choose window-managers???
[12:17] <Sanne> can you open this md5sum file you have and paste the contents to the pastebin?
[12:17] <LjL> mnp: what it says on the page. the libqt3-mt-dev dependency is put there without any explanation (and probably without any purpose)
[12:17] <Ackeubu_> !window-manager
[12:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about window-manager - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:17] <recon0> ron999: try restating your question, and somebody else might bick up o it.
[12:17] <goonies> !nvidia
[12:17] <Ackeubu_> !windows-manager
[12:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about windows-manager - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:17] <mnp> LjL: i bet you are right
[12:18] <LjL> dyn-afk: but then typing "15 inches in cm" into it is handy ;)
[12:18] <ron999> recon thanks
[12:18] <recon0> ron999: welcome.
[12:18] <magic_> djavie233: download again..it will be much faster now...don't worry about md5sum'ing it...just burn a new CD and try it out
[12:18] <ron999> can anyone help me to mount the floppy disk please
[12:18] <santa99> he guys, i have a problem with the vmplayer it displays Could not open /dev/vmmon: No such file or directory.
[12:18] <santa99> Please make sure that the kernel module `vmmon' is loaded. when i want to start is any ideas about how to fix this ?
[12:18] <LjL> santa99: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:19] <djavie233> Sanne I have the disk image file, I open it, it attaches on to the Finder and inside with all the other files and folders is the md5sum.txt file
[12:19] <LjL> santa99: you need the newer vmware kernel modules
[12:19] <djavie233> Sanne what is a "pastbin"?
[12:19] <brian|lfs> why are you people being mean to my friend gigahurtz
[12:19] <codecaine> how does ubuntu auto mount drives when you just plug them in?
[12:19] <recon0> !pastebin > djavie223
[12:19] <brian|lfs> its jsut his quit message he is making fun of gentoo not ubuntu
[12:19] <minerale> Is anyone able to view trailers from trailers.apple.com ?
[12:19] <AltF4> hello
[12:19] <GlassCasket> codecain: I think it has to do with your fstab
[12:19] <seabre> ron: usually with the command
[12:19] <Sanne> djavie233: ok, then it may not be what I mean. Please wait a sec.
[12:20] <djavie233> recon0 what is a pastebin?
[12:20] <brian|lfs> I'm glad I don't run unbuntu any more
[12:20] <ron999> seabre i've used the command
[12:20] <seabre> ron: mount -t auto /dev/*thefloppydevice*
[12:20] <brian|lfs> the support room is full of lamers
[12:20] <recon0> !pastebin
[12:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:20] <recon0> djavie223: see above ^^^^^^^
[12:20] <dyn-afk> LjL I have an application called "converter" on my treo 650 and I use that to convert :)
[12:20] <LjL> brian|lfs: please join #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about this
[12:20] <spades> brian|lfs no one is forcing you to stay here
[12:20] <interfear> where can i get more gnome panel applets?
[12:20] <seabre> ron: What exactly did you use?
[12:20] <magic_> djavie233: download a new iso file and burn it again
[12:20] <A[D] minS> !apache
[12:20] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:21] <magic_> djavie233: yesterday was not a good day for download ubuntu iso's
[12:21] <djavie233> magic_ the file is almost 700MB it'll take me half a day to download that
[12:21] <magic_> djavie233: on dsl? it shouldn't
[12:21] <santa99> LjL, it doesn't helped
[12:21] <seabre> ron: I don't have a floppy drive, but it's usually mount -t auto /dev/fda /mnt/floppy
[12:21] <djavie233> I have Bellsouth Lite
[12:21] <santa99> LjL, by the upgrade wasn't anything installed
[12:21] <interfear> djavie233: are you talking about the iso?
[12:21] <Sanne> djavie233: please point your browser to: ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/linux/ubuntu/releases/6.06/ , you should see a driectory listing with ubuntu isos, and also a file MD%SUMS at the top of the list.
[12:22] <LjL> santa99: what's your kernel version? ("uname -r")
[12:22] <interfear> djavie233: i would use the torrent, the torrent go quick
[12:22] <seabre> ron: Sometimes you have to make the floppy directory if it doesn't exist.
[12:22] <carlxy> !lart brian|lfs
[12:22] <Sanne> djavie233: MD5SUMS, sorry
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about lart brian|lfs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:22] <djavie233> I don't know what Torrent is....
[12:22] <santa99> 2.6.15-26-386
[12:22] <magic_> djavie233: I don't know what that means...even the slowest dsl is fast
[12:22] <santa99> LjL, 2.6.15-26-386
[12:22] <A[D] minS> !ubout
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubout - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:22] <djavie233> Not mine apparently, I've downloaded files that size before, it takes for ever
[12:22] <A[D] minS> thx
[12:23] <goatmale> is everything back up?
[12:23] <A[D] minS> brb
[12:23] <LjL> santa99: and what's the output of apt-cache policy vmware-player-kernel-modules | grep Installed  ?
[12:23] <magic_> djavie233: can you try downloading again right now and let me know your speed please
[12:23] <seabre> ron: But you have to sudo first before you mount anything
[12:23] <KyleHunt> Im on the Ubuntu Live CD, how can I make my ubuntu partitions bootable?
[12:23] <KyleHunt> and activate them?
[12:23] <seabre> ron: so do a sudo -s before you do that mount command
[12:23] <djavie233> Sanne I don't see a MD5SUMS file anywhere
[12:23] <djavie233> magic_ ok I'll try
[12:23] <Sanne> djavie233: tell me when you're ready and see the directory listing.
[12:23] <santa99> LjL,  Installed: 2.6.15.10-6
[12:23] <Sanne> djavie233: oh
[12:23] <Bison> ridiculous amounts of people in this channel
[12:23] <Inazad> Hi there, I need some help for installing the XP drivers required for ndiswrapper for a WiFi connection....
[12:23] <dyn-afk> I'm off
[12:23] <Sanne> djavie233: what do you see when you go to the address?
[12:23] <dyn-afk> bye
[12:23] <djavie233> what directory listing??
[12:24] <djavie233> sanne what address?
[12:24] <Sanne> djavie233: I said: please point your browser to: ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/linux/ubuntu/releases/6.06/ , you should see a driectory listing with ubuntu isos, and also a file MD5SUMS at the top of the list.
[12:24] <LjL> santa99: ouch, old! your /etc/apt/sources.list is broken. add "multiverse" and "universe" to the "dapper-security" and "dapper-updates" line
[12:24] <Bison> I'm wanting to get maildrop, getmail, msmtp
[12:24] <LjL> santa99: line*s*
[12:24] <Bison> which repos can i find those in
[12:24] <djavie233> Ok, the Finder opened it up and I see a whole bunch of files inside a Finder window
[12:25] <Sanne> djavie233: do you see the file MD5SUM?
[12:25] <djavie233> with an "S" at the end? Yea I do
[12:25] <ron999> seabre i did as you said, reply is you must specify the filesystem type
[12:25] <brian|lfs> this is my friends quit message Watching shit scroll by for hours makes me a Linux expert overnight! -A random Gentoo user
[12:25] <brian|lfs> nothing wrong with it whats the prob\
[12:25] <Sanne> djavie233: oh, hehe, yes that one. Can you download this file to the folder where your iso is?
[12:26] <LjL> brian|lfs: well, i see a problem in that it contains a swearword, and swearwords are not welcome here. but anyway, i see a bigger problem in that this discussion is offtopic here.
[12:26] <seabre> ron: It should automatically detect the FS if it can read it
[12:26] <djavie233> Sanne I don't understand what good that would do I have the iso file on the desktop
[12:26] <seabre> ron: Was it formatted with Windows or MacOSX?
[12:26] <GlassCasket> I tried to modprobe ndiswrapper, but it told me the ndiswrapper module didn't exist. Any ideas why?
[12:26] <khoda`> Is there anything I need to do right after I install to make sure my internet is at fullspeed? It seems like pages are loading very very slowly and gaim took awhile to load too.
[12:26] <brian|lfs> oh sorry wrong tab
[12:26] <ron999> seabre this disk was formatted with windows98 fat32
[12:26] <seabre> oh ok
[12:27] <Sanne> djavie233: it would help you to check the md5sum of your downloaded iso against the md5sum it *should* have, according to the official MD5SUMS file.
[12:27] <magic_> djavie233: maybe read up on md5sum checking later and start downloading a new iso
[12:27] <m3talc0re> ubuntu is gettin' on my last damn nerve....
[12:27] <tritium> m3talc0re: what's the matter?
[12:27] <seabre> ron: Try mount -t fat32 /dev/fda /mnt/floppy
[12:27] <Stormx2> m3talc0re: Whats the problem?
[12:27] <m3talc0re> i can't get x server to start
[12:27] <tritium> m3talc0re: when did this start?
[12:27] <dallgood> can sound-juicer extract cd audio to mp3s?
[12:27] <Stormx2> m3talc0re: Did you upgrade?
[12:27] <ron999> seabre ok, wait
[12:27] <khoda`> Is there anything I need to do right after I install to make sure my internet is at fullspeed? It seems like pages are loading very very slowly and gaim took awhile to load too.
[12:27] <m3talc0re> it's a new install of ubuntu 6.06
[12:27] <Sanne> djavie233: maybe you might have a look first at the documentation, it should clarify things: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[12:28] <m3talc0re> it hasn't worked from the get go
[12:28] <Bison> ahh, where can i find repos for some decent packages?
[12:28] <Stormx2> m3talc0re: Standard install?
[12:28] <m3talc0re> i guess
[12:28] <djavie233> magic_ I clicked to download a new Live CD and it says 7 hours
[12:28] <santa99> LjL, now seems to upgrade the kernel modules
[12:28] <m3talc0re> i didn't do nothin' special
[12:28] <magic_> djavie233: pity
[12:28] <Stormx2> m3talc0re: What error does the x server give?
[12:28] <tritium> m3talc0re: which install image did you use?
[12:28] <Ackeubu_> hey how do i do a search for file content>
[12:28] <Ackeubu_> ?
[12:28] <Sanne> djavie233: for Mac, I also found this, might help with getting the md5sum on your system: http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-newbie/Week-of-Mon-20040510/005632.html
[12:28] <m3talc0re> NOW it tells me it can't find a framebuffer or something
[12:28] <seabre> ron: Oops, it might be /dev/fda0 or /dev/fd0
[12:28] <m3talc0re> i don't kno tritium
[12:28] <codecaine> I don't see if fstab where my usb hds are being mounted automatic
[12:28] <seabre> ron: or even /dev/floppy
[12:29] <zOap> m3talc0re, read the x server output. There is prolly a conflict or misconfiguration
[12:29] <m3talc0re> know*
[12:29] <jrib> Ackeubu_: grep
[12:29] <djavie233> sanne: the file that you told me to download isn't the same as the one that's inside the iso file
[12:29] <seabre> ron: I haven't had a floppy drive in forever, so I don't really remember exactly
[12:29] <jrib> m3talc0re: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, disable framebuffer
[12:29] <m3talc0re> that's the only error i get
[12:29] <djavie233> I'm not trying to use ubuntu on the macintosh
[12:29] <tritium> m3talc0re: do you recall if it was a LiveCD that you booted into before starting the install?
[12:29] <__mikem> Hey, I have a question. I know this is sort of looking a gift horse in the mouth. BUt, basicly, I a while ago accidently deleted a bunch of files over a smb network mount, and had the server down for a while trying to figure out how to recover. However when I brought the server up to do the recovery process, all the files I suposidly accidently deleted were still there. What happened? One thing that should be noted is this is an NT ser
[12:29] <m3talc0re> tried it enabled and disabled jrib
[12:29] <khoda`> hey guys, my internet is going really slow. i just installed ubuntu for the first time - any idea why?
[12:29] <goatmale> anynews on the servers?
[12:29] <m3talc0re> oh, no it wasn't tritium
[12:29] <m3talc0re> it was the alternate install
[12:29] <goatmale> khoda check your dirvers
[12:29] <tritium> m3talc0re: okay.  Can you put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin please?
[12:29] <khoda`> goatmale: where?
[12:30] <m3talc0re> how do i get it?
[12:30] <khoda`> goatmale: i'm a first time user, excuse my noobness
[12:30] <Sanne> djavie233: maybe the file from the ftp server lists more isos than the file inside your iso. Just open it with any text editor, you'll see the isos and their sums listed.
[12:30] <goatmale> Are you using a wireless internet device?
[12:30] <Ackeubu_> jrib, grep "serach string with spaces"
[12:30] <khoda`> goatmale: nope, wired
[12:30] <tritium> m3talc0re: well, first, is that even feasible, or not?  Without X, it may be too hard for you.
[12:30] <goatmale> huh.. that's strange. are you dual booting?
[12:30] <djavie233> sanne this is what the list you gave me says: df03811bfc9f2a73672887a36d531965  ubuntu-6.06-alternate-amd64.iso
[12:30] <jrib> Ackeubu_: hmm?
[12:30] <djavie233> b2e9120f06d70cc076c1852c6c04654e  ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[12:30] <m3talc0re> i have no idea
[12:30] <djavie233> 12bd53a48d7afbcfb0eae6794a1ac02f  ubuntu-6.06-alternate-powerpc.iso
[12:30] <djavie233> 722b8b4a75f977a76a722d4a2b071b19  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso
[12:30] <khoda`> goatmale: yes
[12:30] <djavie233> e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[12:31] <djavie233> 410d766d75a3afaa7f04c0c7dbdfd8da  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-powerpc.iso
[12:31] <Sanne> djavie233: stop
[12:31] <__mikem> um
[12:31] <LjL> !paste
[12:31] <djavie233> 02772b8b3461c246a2154aa6e699335b  ubuntu-6.06-server-amd64.iso
[12:31] <m3talc0re> like i said, i can't get x server to start, so i dunno
[12:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:31] <Sanne> djavie233: stop
[12:31] <djavie233> 4c7c835d244453b9a29d397e5cd973fd  ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[12:31] <Sanne> djavie233: stop
[12:31] <goatmale> did you go back and see how fast it was going on your other OS?
[12:31] <seabre> ron: Alternatively, you can by using the disks-admin program
[12:31] <khoda`> goatmale: yeah, its fine
[12:31] <seabre> ron: type disks-admin in the terminal
[12:31] <goatmale> that's really strange.
[12:31] <Meatwad> alright, I just got XGL running....how do I get the cool effects to work?
[12:31] <Ackeubu_> jrib how do i use grep? i need to search for a file with a special content.
[12:31] <khoda`> goatmale: i'll try a reboot
[12:31] <m3talc0re> i read the two log files it displays and the only thing it says that failed is it failed to load a framebuffer
[12:31] <jrib> Ackeubu_: grep "content" file
[12:31] <dallgood> can sound-juicer extract cd audio to mp3s?
[12:32] <LjL> Ackeubu_: "man grep"
[12:32] <seabre> ron: it should show your floppy on the left
[12:32] <goatmale> khoda general internet use? cause some of the ubuntu sertvers are down
[12:32] <m3talc0re> i tried the xserver one enabled and disabled, same result
[12:32] <khoda> goatmale: yeah, general use
[12:32] <jrib> Ackeubu_: and you can list multiple files, grep "content" file1 file2....
[12:32] <seabre> ron: click where it says floppy, and it should give you a mounting option somewhere..
[12:32] <khoda> goatmale for example, google took awhile
[12:32] <zOap> dallgood, why don't you do a google?
[12:32] <ron999> seabre , wait please
[12:32] <xange> is there any expected timeframe on a flash plugin for firefox under amd64?
[12:32] <Ackeubu_> jrib okay thansk
[12:32] <tritium> m3talc0re: then you need to disable it in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:33] <noiesmo> Meatwad, are you running nvidia or ati card 32bit or 64bit system
[12:33] <Bison> Can anyone tell me where I should point my apt in order to download lots of packages
[12:33] <goatmale> what program do you use for internet?
[12:33] <zOap> Bison, what??
[12:33] <Bison> with my current setup i can't find urxvt, getmail, maildrop
[12:33] <seabre> goatmale: firefox
[12:33] <m3talc0re> i disabled it throught he dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg setup stuff
[12:33] <tritium> !easysource > Bison
[12:33] <khoda> goatmale whatever came with it, firefox
[12:33] <zOap> Bison, do you mean universe?
[12:33] <goatmale> I mean on XP
[12:33] <dallgood> zOap: I did, but now I am confused.  Apparently I need a gstreamer-lame plugin, but this is only available for gstreamer 0.8 and sound-juicer is using gstreamer 0.10
[12:33] <seabre> goatmale: firefox
[12:33] <seabre> or IE
[12:34] <Bison> I don't want it automagically generated...i just want to have better sources
[12:34] <khoda> goatmale same thing
[12:34] <goatmale> no khoda what do you use firefox?
[12:34] <Paladine> khoda go to the firefox website and then to the plugin section and install fastfox
[12:34] <khoda> Paladine will do
[12:34] <Meatwad> noiesmo:  intel chipset with intigrated graphics...
[12:34] <goatmale> I think it's called faster fox
[12:34] <ron999> seabre it shows my floppy as another hard drive              /dev/fd0
[12:34] <Bison> zOap: I have universe uncommented (fresh install).  Unless you are talking about another one
[12:34] <khoda> Paladine: do you have to do that everytime you reinstall?
[12:34] <Paladine> yeah it is fasterfox
[12:34] <zOap> dallgood, it seems you have your answer don't you?
[12:34] <seabre> ron: it should allow you to mount it from there
[12:35] <goatmale> khoda it's called fasterfox.
[12:35] <noiesmo> Meatwad, ok I cant help i got nvidia check out http://compiz.net they got good howto's etc for eyecandy
[12:35] <Paladine> khoda no not if you backup your ~/.mozilla dir
[12:35] <Bison> oh man, i'm sorry i must have forgotten to save
[12:35] <zOap> Bison, is that universe backport?
[12:35] <Meatwad> noiesmo:  alright, thanks
[12:35] <ron999> seabre how do i mount it from there
[12:35] <khoda> Paladine: gaim took a long time to connect too... maybe its not my browser
[12:35] <Bison> what is uiverse backport?
[12:35] <Bison> should i comment that out?
[12:35] <dallgood> zOap: not really, did you read what i said?
[12:35] <zOap> Bison, also, there is the multiverse
[12:35] <Paladine> khoda gaim often takes a long time to connect
[12:35] <khoda> Paladine: not on windows! :p
[12:35] <Bison> what is multiverse?
[12:36] <LjL> !multiverse
[12:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:36] <Paladine> khoda, the default installation of firefox is slow it doesn't have dns caching enabled
[12:36] <seabre> ron: There should be a button that says mount. If not, you atleast know the device now, you can try the command mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[12:36] <zOap> Bison, read the apt.sources file. is there a backport written in the universe line?
[12:36] <khoda> Paladine: even on windows? i never used fasterfox on windows
[12:36] <Paladine> khoda if you get fasterfox it will speedup firefox
[12:36] <goatmale> Does anyone know how the servers are doing?
[12:36] <zOap> dallgood, yes I read it. it is not avalable for 0.10
[12:36] <Paladine> khoda, no in linux
[12:36] <khoda> Paladine: k ill download
[12:36] <rus1> I'm trying to get my wireless to work (broadcom chipset) and trying to follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[12:36] <dallgood> zOap: so its not possible?
[12:36] <Bison> well, no...it has another section
[12:36] <m3talc0re> any idea tritium?
[12:37] <Bison> ack i'm confusing myself
[12:37] <tritium> m3talc0re: with what?
[12:37] <Bison> zOap: the answer is no
[12:37] <rus1> But E: Couldn't find package bcm43xx-fwcutter
[12:37] <ron999> seabre i'll try the terminal again, wait
[12:37] <LjL> !info bcm43xx-fwcutter
[12:37] <ubotu> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In repository universe, is optional. Version 20060108-6build1 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 100 kB
[12:37] <m3talc0re> with what i can do to get xserver to work?
[12:37] <tritium> m3talc0re: did you disable the framebuffer as I suggested?
[12:37] <zOap> dallgood, well, I haven't tried it myself, but from what you're saying it's not possible in that way atleast. Try to come up with a workaround
[12:37] <LjL> rus1: enable universe
[12:37] <Bison> I need to get out of here and expolore
[12:37] <seabre> ron: Sorry if I'm leading you all over the place, but reading all of these responses and doing other stuff in the background is confusing
[12:37] <Bison> Nice to see the repos up again though! :)
[12:37] <rus1> LjL: I did.
[12:38] <seabre> ron: and I haven't had a floppy drive in 6 years...so...heh.
[12:38] <goatmale> Who needed help with ndiswrapper?
[12:38] <m3talc0re> i don't know how to do it other than through the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:38] <zOap> Bison, ok. also uncomment the multiverse line. More packages. But remember universe and multiverse has less security support.
[12:38] <prophet> when i try to run Steam i get this error wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Steam.exe": Module not found
[12:38] <LjL> rus1: if you can't find the package, then you either didn't or forgot to run "sudo apt-get update". try that, if it doesn't work, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:38] <khoda> Paladine: is it possible to dual screen in ubuntu
[12:38] <prophet> can someone help[
[12:38] <Paladine> khoda yes
[12:38] <tritium> m3talc0re: that's fine
[12:38] <tritium> khoda: sure
[12:38] <goatmale> prophet #winehq
[12:38] <rus1> LjL: okay, I didn't run that, didn't know I had to.
[12:38] <m3talc0re> well i tried it disabled through there and still got the error
[12:38] <Paladine> khoda you using 1 card with 2 heads or two cards with 1 or more heads?
[12:38] <rus1> LjL: I'll get back to you.
[12:38] <m3talc0re> i tried it enabled and disabled
[12:38] <Bison> zOap: I don't really care about security that much
[12:38] <khoda> Paladine: 1 card/2heads
[12:39] <Bison> oh one more apt question
[12:39] <ron999> seabre there are 852 ppl in the room, it's difficult, i'll ask the question again, thanks very much
[12:39] <Paladine> khoda if you do nvidia-xconfig -twinview   I think that will do it but let me check first
[12:39] <particle__> Hi rockers :))
[12:39] <Bison> How do i update all of the software i currently have...
[12:39] <zOap> Bison, then you should uncomment it. Ubuntu/debian has one of the largest repositories available.
[12:39] <khoda> Paladine: okay
[12:39] <LjL> Bison: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:39] <Bison> alright...thanks a bunch!
[12:39] <zOap> Bison, apt-get update
[12:40] <Bison> take care
[12:40] <particle__> Bison: use adept
[12:40] <tritium> khoda: /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz describes how to use twinview very well
[12:40] <goatmale> I thought the servers were down
[12:40] <ron999> hello, can somebody help me mount the floppy disk
[12:40] <khoda> tritium: how do i read that in console (first day on linux)
[12:40] <Paladine> khoda in a terminal type sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview
[12:40] <LjL> khoda: zless /usr/share/blah
[12:40] <tritium> khoda: zless
[12:40] <Paladine> khoda then do ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the xserver
[12:41] <phos> hey
[12:41] <particle__> I have a nice question: Can I install Ubuntu 32 Bit on an AMD64 machine? (No, I don't want the 64 bit edition...)
[12:41] <jaakkos> is it possible to use 2 displays with different resolution?
[12:41] <m3talc0re> i guess ubuntu just isn't going to work for me
[12:41] <Paladine> partile yes
[12:41] <jaakkos> particle__: yes
[12:41] <LjL> particle__: yes
[12:41] <tritium> m3talc0re: why not?  Did you try it?
[12:41] <particle__> Paladine: Thanks. HAve you tried it?
[12:41] <seabre> ron: did you try      mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy     You know the device now so it should be hard
[12:42] <m3talc0re> yeah, i told you, i tried it enabled and disabled, both have the same result
[12:42] <jaakkos> particle__: i'm running it
[12:42] <tritium> m3talc0re: what happened after sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:42] <Paladine> particle__, I am running 32Bit on 64Bit right now
[12:42] <seabre> *shouldn't be
[12:42] <caglar> where can I find old kernels for ubuntu?
[12:42] <tritium> m3talc0re: you didn't tell me.  Perhaps you forget to use my nick, so I'd see your message.
[12:42] <caglar> the best would be packages
[12:42] <m3talc0re> oh
[12:42] <m3talc0re> i didn't type your nickname
[12:42] <khoda> Paladine: how do i change my resolution
[12:42] <tritium> m3talc0re: keep in mind, this channel is _very_ busy
[12:42] <m3talc0re> i've noticed, lol
[12:42] <particle__> jaakkos, paladine: Thanks a lot!
[12:42] <tritium> m3talc0re: so, please use nicks to address messages to others
[12:43] <Paladine> khoda ctrl+ +/- I think
[12:43] <phos> hi, i was wondering if there was any way of checking whether the 3d acceleration is working on my intel 945G?
[12:43] <ucordes> 
[12:43] <m3talc0re> tritium: after i went to that, it just did what it's supposed to do, let me change stuffs
[12:43] <secleinteer> hey does any1 know how to convert a color image to grayscale in the gimp?
[12:43] <khoda> Paladine: doesnt do anything for me
[12:43] <Paladine> khoda, ctrl+alt+ +/- (on the numeric keypad)
[12:43] <khoda> Paladine: firefox still slow
[12:43] <ucordes> how can i configure my xchat to receive files from other irc users?
[12:43] <tritium> m3talc0re: if it doesn't work after disabled, look at the log files again, and see what else is going wrong
[12:43] <protocol1> how can I get compiz xgl running on my laptop
[12:43] <zOap> secleinteer, go to #gimp
[12:43] <protocol1> ?
[12:43] <tritium> !xgl
[12:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:43] <seabre> phos: There's usually some OpenGL programs that give you an idea
[12:43] <protocol1> I do have 3d acceleration
[12:44] <seabre> phos: Like gears
[12:44] <LjL> secleinteer: Image / Mode / Grayscale
[12:44] <ron999> seabre , it should mount from the little icon shouldn't it?
[12:44] <m3talc0re> tritium: let me restart my comp and try them both again to see what their messages say
[12:44] <tritium> m3talc0re: no need to restrat
[12:44] <tritium> restart
[12:44] <seabre> ron: Huh? What do you mean?
[12:44] <protocol1> ahhh
[12:44] <stian_> Hey all. I am trying to use Message.find, with :conditions. How can I pass two conditions? Ie. I want to return rows where one condition is true, and the other is the users id
[12:44] <phos> seabre: ill look into it
[12:44] <m3talc0re> tritium: ?
[12:44] <tuxtux> !fgl
[12:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about fgl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:44] <tritium> m3talc0re: why restrat?
[12:44] <protocol1> tritium, thanks
[12:44] <tuxtux> !fglrx
[12:44] <stian_> sorry, wrong window :p
[12:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:44] <m3talc0re> tritium: so i can see their messages and all
[12:45] <goonies> can someone possibly tell me why rhythmbox is going crazy when i try to play music off my ipod, it just puts a stop sign next to each one and continues to do so down the list
[12:45] <khoda> Paladine: still doesnt chagne
[12:45] <tritium> m3talc0re: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:45] <m3talc0re> tritium: I'm on winxp pro right now dual booting ubuntu
[12:45] <tritium> m3talc0re: oh
[12:45] <Paladine> khoda, sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x1200 (use that to add 1600x1200 or use another resolution)
[12:45] <ron999> hello, can someone help me mount the floppy
[12:45] <stian_> stian, bare en liten heads up fr jeg ghoster deg :P
[12:45] <seabre> ron: Did you issue that command??
[12:46] <khoda> Paladine: thanks, any idea whats up with internet?
[12:46] <m3talc0re> tritium: okay for me to restart then?
[12:46] <Paladine> khoda couldbe a driver issue with your network card
[12:46] <tritium> m3talc0re: sure
[12:46] <zOap> stian, that is annoying. ikke sant?
[12:46] <khoda> Paladine: how do i look into fixing it
[12:46] <khoda> Paladine: its integrated into my mobo
[12:46] <seabre> ron: If it did it successfully all you do is type cd /mount/floppy in the terminal and then type ls to see the contents of the drive
[12:46] <stian_> z0ap at folk tjuver? :P
[12:46] <zOap> stian, use the channel language
[12:46] <ron999> seabre entered sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy and nothing happened
[12:46] <Paladine> khoda you would need to check your network card manufacturers website andsee if they do a linux driver or search google for "Your Card Name" "Linux"
[12:47] <Paladine> see if anyone else has a solution for it
[12:47] <khoda> Paladine k
[12:47] <stian_> omg
[12:47] <stian_> eek
[12:47] <mrspec1> anyone help me with printing problems-- trying to install brother printer (from shared windows network)-- and i got to the part where it's asking about my printer driver-- and it doesn't have my model-- what do i do?
[12:47] <XiXaQ> I'm having a really bad time with my Radeon 9200se card. Out of the box, opengl games works perfectly, "normal" graphics is rather slow, but the system halts after a while. When I install ATIs proprietary driver, the system is stable, but I don't get direct rendering, so opengl games is impossible. Any help around?
[12:48] <zOap> stian, don't log on two different with the same nick. it WILL collide
[12:48] <mrspec1> i looked on brother website and they have stuff for my model (LPR and CUPS)-- but i do i make it work?
[12:48] <stian> zOap, I am not doing that
[12:48] <seabre> ron: I'm pretty sure if it didn't respond
[12:48] <Zambezi> Can anybody help me with rtorrent. Please use PM. I'm losing my temper soon. It freak me out!
[12:48] <Paladine> khoda you should also check the contents of /etc/resolv.conf and make sure that the servers in there are your correct dns servers for your ISP
[12:48] <seabre> ron: Then it mounted it successfully
[12:48] <eric__> Wondered if I could solicit some help compiling gnash on gcc.
[12:48] <stian> zOap, I am merely ghosting whatever user having logged on with my nick
[12:49] <zOap> stian, ok.
[12:49] <eric__> Following the readme for gnash, I type ./configure
[12:49] <stian> zOap, said user also had auto-reconnect/rejoin
[12:49] <eric__> A bunch of stuff happens, all of which looks positive, then I get the error:
[12:49] <stian> z0ap: the reason I spoke to him/her in norwegian first was to alert him/her that I was taking my nick backj
[12:49] <eric__> "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.  Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[12:49] <eric__> Me: "Duuuuhhh."
[12:50] <Sanne> eric__: you need some X development files
[12:50] <Paladine> khoda you can check the dns server by clicking on "System" (on the top bar) > Administration > Networking
[12:50] <sal> hi my panel is gone
[12:50] <khoda> Paladine: looks fine
[12:50] <ic56> ron999: if by "nothing happened" you mean the next prompt got displayed and there was no error message, that's a good thing: it means the command worked.  If by "nothing happened" you mean there was an error message, that's not good.  You need to be more specific if you want people to be able to help you
[12:50] <eric__> Sanne: I probably should have mentioned that I know very, very little Linux.
[12:50] <Paladine> khoda well if it isnot your dns servers and not your ISP just being slow, then it must be something to do with the network drivers
[12:50] <eric__> Sanne: How do I get me some X development files?
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> WHat is the terminal command to get a checksum of a file?
[12:51] <khoda> Paladine: my mobo apparently has linux drivers on the cd. but it has a few different ones like "linux2.2.25 all the way to 6.16"
[12:51] <khoda> Paladine: i'm assuming 6.16 i what i want?
[12:51] <Sanne> eric__: I'm trying to find the package name for you, sec (but after that you may still get more errors like that, depending on which files are missing)
[12:51] <seabre> ron: Yeah ron, if nothing happened everything should be ok, and all you have to do is god to /mnt/floppy
[12:51] <ubuntu> I just tried installing off the breezy badger liveCD to an existing partition, and when I try booting it says partition not found
[12:51] <bensr20det> Hello. How do I go about changing my default music and video players?
[12:51] <Paladine> khoda you are best off trying to find a package for them
[12:51] <seabre> ron: god = go
[12:52] <eric__> Sanne: It might be worth mentioning that I have a basically 'clean' system.  I just installed gcc.
[12:52] <seabre> ron: the command to go to /mnt/floppy is cd /mnt/floppy
[12:52] <ron999> seabre it's not mounted, won't let me format it
[12:52] <khoda> Paladine: i'm not sure what that means :p
[12:52] <Paladine> khoda, go to the website for your motherboard manufacturer and look for either a driver script (like the nvidia one I showed you earlier) or a file with a .deb extension
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !md5
[12:52] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:52] <ubuntu> Are there any known problems with instaling Breezy to an existing partition?
[12:53] <Sanne> eric__: oh, for compiling it's best you install build-essential (or similar) to get necessary packages for compiling.
[12:53] <Tommy2k4> o crap
[12:53] <carlxy> ron: mformat a:
[12:53] <khoda> Paladine: k
[12:53] <Tommy2k4> i made my / partition too small lol
[12:53] <eric__> Sanne: I did apt-get build-essential, yes.
[12:53] <Sanne> eric__: ah, good.
[12:53] <ic56> seabre: In breezy, floppy mounts to /media/floppy0 and there's a symlink, /media/floppy , pointing to the former.  Why are you directing ron to /mnt/floppy ?
[12:53] <sc0rp10n> Hello I am in the search of Desklets Merci in advance
[12:53] <Paladine> khoda chances are there will be instructions on the manufacturers website forinstalling the linux drivers
[12:54] <khoda> Paladine kk
[12:54] <ron999> ic56 im using dapper
[12:54] <Paladine> brb
[12:54] <sc0rp10n> Hello I am in the search of Desklets Merci in advance
[12:54] <SlyFly> I am trying to install an application via Wine, and it's asking me which location to install it to...do I install it in my Windows partition or Ubuntu?  It doesn't make sense
[12:54] <Grue_Lovah> so if I want GCC, whats the best way to install it ?
[12:54] <sc0rp10n> Hello I am in the search of Desklets
[12:54] <SlyFly> GrueLova, download it from Synaptic
[12:55] <goatmale> are the apt-get servers up yet?!?!?!
[12:55] <ic56> ron999, carlxy: you cannot format a mounted filesystem.  To do so would create a *huge* mess.
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Grue_Lovah: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:55] <seabre> ic: Because that's where usually the floppy mount directory is, well when I had a floppy drive
[12:55] <Grue_Lovah> slyfly:thank you
[12:55] <Sanne> eric__: it might be this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libx11-dev
[12:55] <gnomefreak> goatmale: most are
[12:55] <seabre> ron: Yeah, if you want to format a floppy you can't mount it, use this command floppy --format --size=80x36x512 A:
[12:55] <SlyFly> GueLOVA, it's what I do...I am a nice person...:)
[12:55] <minerale> Hi, I've asked this question a couple times,, oddly no one has given me a yes or no answer (or any answer at all) ... can I get ubuntu to play .mov quicktime files ?
[12:55] <eric__> Sanne: I'll give it a shot.  Thanks.
[12:55] <tritium> eric__: xlibs-dev
[12:55] <tuxtux> good night
[12:55] <SlyFly> minerale, of course it can play mov files
[12:56] <gtrplr> does anyone know of good how to web site for setting up apache2?
[12:56] <OmniColos> ubotu quicktime
[12:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:56] <SlyFly> minerale, you need to see the restricted formats page...go to the Ubuntu wiki
[12:56] <ron999> seabre, thanks i'll ask ic56
[12:56] <khoda> Paladine: what's a .tar.z file?
[12:56] <ic56> ron999: unmount before formatting.  The command is umount
[12:56] <tich> what games do people like? --i'm looking for a new one.
[12:56] <SlyFly> Who/what is Ubotu?
[12:56] <Sanne> eric__: you're welcome. Shout if you get another error ;)
[12:56] <NineTeen67Comet> Whaaha? .. I had Java working a few days ago .. I followed this how-to ( http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox ) .. and again today, but it still isn't working with either Firefox or SwiftFox ..
[12:56] <santa99> SlyFly, a irc bot
[12:56] <SlyFly> What is Ubotu?
[12:56] <SlyFly> santa, okay..thanks
[12:56] <ron999> ic56 can you help me to get this floppy working
[12:57] <ic56> seabre: are you sure about this "floppy" command?  Is this new in dapper or something?!
[12:57] <ic56> ron999: ok
[12:57] <carlxy> ic56: he says its not mounted
[12:57] <SlyFly> I am trying to install an application via Wine, and it's asking me which location to install it to...do I install it in my Windows partition or Ubuntu?  It doesn't make sense
[12:57] <Rawplayer> what causes a proces to defunct a lot?
[12:57] <OmniColos> SlyFly, ubotu is a bot that can answer most frequently asked technical questions about ubuntu
[12:57] <Grue_Lovah> khoda:it's a compressed file. Windows has .zip, unix usually has .tar and .tar.gz and .gz
[12:57] <ron999> ic 56 where do i start
[12:57] <gtrplr> SlyFly: ubuntu
[12:57] <khoda> Grue_Lovah: the archive manager doesn't know how to open it
[12:57] <NineTeen67Comet> !java
[12:57] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:57] <AngryElf> !topic
[12:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about topic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:57] <goonies> for some reason when trying to play music off my ipod with rhytmbox the thing plays like less than a second of each track and scrolls to the next one and does the same thing, anyone had this happen to them before?
[12:57] <seabre> ic: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/floppy.8.html
[12:58] <SlyFly> GTR, I can either use the BIN or SBIn directory, but if I do that, the application won't move...it won't do what it is supposed to do
[12:58] <carlxy> SlyFly: using its usually less work to install a windows app on your windows partition
[12:58] <seabre> ic: that utility might not be included with ubuntu period
[12:58] <seabre> ic: but you help him, I don't understand what he wants anyway
[12:58] <OmniColos> SlyFly, wine makes a little c: folder in your /home/.wine/dos_drives iirc
[12:58] <ic56> ron999: hang on, I'm reviewing your case history
[12:59] <gtrplr> SlyFly: dunno...I have CrossOver
[12:59] <gtrplr> its worth buying
[12:59] <SlyFly> Omni, but I can't install the application into the .wine folder because it is not available for selection from the browse window
[12:59] <Sanne> SlyFly: wine should have set up a fake windows directory under ~/.wine/something... You should install your app somewhere under that path.
[12:59] <Sanne> SlyFly: I see
[12:59] <SlyFly> Sanne, I can do that...but I can't access the .wine directory from the browse path
[12:59] <ron999> seabre i've bookmarked the link for later thanks
[01:00] <OmniColos> so if the install program .exe says it's gonna install in c:, its really gonna go in your ~/.wine/dos_drives/c/
[01:00] <gtrplr> no apache people in the channel?
[01:00] <carlxy> Fly: it's usually aliased with a windows drive name... should be C
[01:00] <dash`> anybody familiar with the libmpg123.so plugin?
[01:00] <ron999> ic56 how do i save a file to floppy
[01:00] <gtrplr> farvel
[01:00] <SlyFly> So the application is going to think that it is installing itself into the Windows partition, but it really isn't?
[01:00] <SlyFly> *So the application THINKS
[01:01] <AngryElf> any tips for opening really large (1.5mb) pdf files?
[01:01] <OmniColos> well the app thinks that c: is a partition, but its just a folder
[01:01] <AngryElf> my comp should be able to handle it 2.4ghz p4, 1gb ram
[01:01] <Grue_Lovah> khoda: from terminal tar -xvf filename will unpack it
[01:01] <||Trayer||> are the repositories still down?
[01:01] <seabre> Trayer: No
[01:01] <khoda> Grue_Lovahthanks
[01:01] <Sanne> SlyFly: what I usually do, is, let wine create the fake windows drive, but after that, I move it to a custom location. It involves some trickery though I would have to dig out again how to do that.
[01:01] <ic56> ron999: ok.
[01:01] <Grue_Lovah> khoda:ah! np!
[01:01] <DarkMageZ> ||Trayer||, the repositories themselfs have not been down. only some of the mirrors
[01:02] <SlyFly> Sanne, it is alright...I'll try to find a way to point the application to the .wine folder
[01:02] <||Trayer||>  DakMageZ: alright, thanks
[01:02] <OmniColos> ...
[01:03] <OmniColos> if you run winecfg you can tell apps where C: should be
[01:03] <GlassCasket> I tried to modprobe ndiswrapper, but it told me the ndiswrapper module didn't exist. Any ideas why?
[01:03] <ron999> ic56 how do i save a file to floppydisk
[01:04] <ic56> ron999: to save a file to a floppy, the floppy must first be formatted (you say you did that under windows -- fat32 -- that should be fine).  Then it must be mounted, so that the filesystem on the floppy becomes visible as a directory somewhere in your computer's directory tree.  Finally, you copy the file to that directory.  Where you're done with the floppy, you must unmount it first, and then physically remove the floppy.
[01:04] <SlyFly> Omniclose, I have already done that
[01:04] <Sanne> SlyFly: oh, I found how I did it, under ~/.wine/dosdevices there's a link to the location of "c:". I just changed the link and pointed it to the folder where I moved ~/.wine/drive_c to. Might be too much hassle, though.
[01:04] <ic56> ron999: correction: Where -> When
[01:04] <SlyFly> Sanne, that looks like a complicated procedure with no benefits...it's probably not worth doing
[01:04] <noiesmo_> GlassCasket, dont know if this will help but there is ndisgtk it a gui for ndiswrapper you can use to install windows wifi drivers
[01:04] <ron999> ic56 how do i mount it please
[01:04] <ic56> ron999: now for the commands
[01:05] <SlyFly> Omniclose/Sanne, I am just going to do z:\home\pablo\.wine
[01:05] <ron999> ic 56 ok
[01:05] <SlyFly> I don't know where Z came from
[01:05] <yoshiznit123> hey everyone, why is the repo version of fluxbox not compiled with imlib support?
[01:05] <OmniColos> thank you for shopping at K-mart
[01:05] <ic56> ron999: first let's find out whether or not it's already mounted.  Issue this command in Terminal, and tell me what it says:  mount |grep floppy
[01:05] <Sanne> SlyFly: I just read OmniColos's advice to use winecfg for that... don't listen to me, I didn't think of the advanced configurability wine now has.
[01:05] <Tommy2k4> how can i resize my partitions from inside kubuntu
[01:05] <Tommy2k4> is it possible
[01:06] <Tommy2k4> i made my / too small lol and now its full
[01:06] <DarkMageZ> Tommy2k4, there is an application called qtparted
[01:06] <SlyFly> Sanne, yeah, I already did that...the configuration
[01:06] <Sanne> SlyFly: the problem might be that windows programs maybe hide folders that start with a dot, like .wine
[01:06] <ron999> ic56 what is the command again?
[01:07] <ic56> ron999: mount |grep floppy
[01:07] <ron999> ic56 i dont' understand grep
[01:07] <ic56> ron999: the mount command is used to mount filesystems.  If used without arguments, it reports a list of all currently mounted filesystems.  The grep command is used to search for text
[01:07] <SlyFly> Sanne, I will keep trying to play with different directories to see what happens...but first, how do i remove the borders around the application?  It shows up as a square because of borders that shouldn't be there
[01:08] <khoda> anyone ever use ubuntu with a8n5x mobo?
[01:08] <ic56> ron999: so the pipeline I gave you searches the output of the mount command for an instance of the word "floppy".  If there's no output, it means no floppies are mounted.  If there is output, it will tell us which floppy is mounted and where
[01:09] <ron999> ok i copied and pasted and there is no reply
[01:09] <eric__> Sanne: I apt-get installed all of the packages you listed and I get the same error.
[01:09] <Sanne> SlyFly: I don't know exactly what you mean, but in winecfg, under Graphics, you can play with the setting of "Emulate a virtual desktop".
[01:09] <ron999> ic56 got no response
[01:10] <ic56> ron999: ok. that makes sense.  Now, let's find out what the default mountpoint is for the floppy.
[01:10] <ron999> ic56 ok
[01:10] <Sanne> eric__: that is interesting. Either the files it needs aren't in the devel packages you installed, or configure couldn't find it. Hmmm, let me think.
[01:10] <ic56> ron999: type this command and tell me what it says: grep floppy /etc/fstab
[01:11] <eric__> Sanne: Maybe this helps? http://mail.easysoft.com/pipermail/unixodbc-support/2004-December/000276.html
[01:11] <ic56> ron999: /etc/fstab is a configuration file.  You can mount any filesystem to any empty directory but this config file provides the defaults so you don't have to type them in every time you boot and every time you mount/unmount a floppy.
[01:11] <Tokeiito> laba vakara (good evening)
[01:11] <ron999> ic 56 answer is :- /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto rw,user,noauto  0   0
[01:12] <Sanne> eric__: do you have a file called config.log in the folder where you started configure from?
[01:12] <eric__> That would be in my gnash folder? Let's see...
[01:13] <eric__> eric: Sanne.. Yep.  I loaded it up.
[01:13] <yoshiznit123> eric__, what are you trying to compile?
[01:14] <SlyFly> Sanne, thanks again...I appreciate it..the application has been installed...for whatever reason, my Ubuntu partition is Z...not C
[01:14] <eric__> yshiznit123: gnash
[01:14] <SlyFly> the root partition is Z
[01:14] <ic56> ron999: excellent.  So I was right about the mountpoint being suggested by the other guy being incorrect.
[01:14] <yoshiznit123> from cvs?
[01:14] <GlassCasket> noiesmo_:  I'll try that, but I'd like to get another way to fix the problem. Because if if I use a GUI, it'll still modprobe ndiswrapper.
[01:14] <Sanne> eric__: try to search for the error message string. If you find it, look some lines previous to that if it tells you the actual name of the file it didn't find or similar.
[01:15] <ron999> ic56 ok, he did his best but not used floppy for years, what next
[01:15] <ic56> ron999: so, let's mount it.  Put a formatted disk in your drive and issue this command: mount /media/floppy0  Hopefully you'll get no error messages.  Let me know
[01:15] <plancton> alguem fala portugues ai?
[01:15] <ron999> ic56 ok wait please
[01:16] <bimberi> !pt
[01:16] <ron999> ic 56 answer is:-  mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
[01:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:16] <eric__> Sanne: Bear with me - I've no idea what I'm reading so it may be superfluous.  "conftest.cc.15: error: 'exit' was not declared in this scope" .. failed program was confdefs.h.
[01:16] <noiesmo_> GlassCasket, np, havent done much with ndiswrapper but found ndisgtk also have this link might help you http://ubuntu-inspiron.blogspot.com/2005/02/wireless.html
[01:17] <seabre> ic: don't you need a mount point?
[01:17] <eric__> Sanne: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory.
[01:17] <ic56> ron999: fyi, the full syntax is: mount -t <filesystem type> <device> <target directory>  In this case, that would have been: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0   But we're getting away with providing only partial information because the rest is in /etc/fstab
[01:17] <seabre> ic: err, a place to mount to?
[01:17] <seabre> oh ok
[01:17] <seabre> n/m
[01:18] <ron999> ic56 ok, what next
[01:18] <plancton> please. i wanna check my hd. how do I?
[01:18] <GlassCasket> noiesmo_:  Thanks man, I'll try that right now.
[01:18] <Sanne> eric__: hmmm, dunno if that's what we need. is config.log large? I would like to have a look, can you paste it or some large relevant section to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[01:18] <noiesmo_> GlassCasket, np good luck
[01:18] <mimithebrain> ah...
[01:18] <mimithebrain> everything seems to be back to normal :)
[01:19] <nofear> hey, I did a complete system update in ubuntu, and after it updated i guess it updated my video card drivers and now my video card isnt working in 3dmode.... im using a ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card... anyone got any ideas how i could fix this prob?
[01:19] <ic56> ron999: if you got no errors, then the floppy should now be mounted.  You can confirm that for yourself.  Type "mount" with no arguments.  It will spit out a list of mounted filesystems.  /media/floppy0 should be amongst them.  Is it?
[01:19] <eric__> Sanne: do you have IM?
[01:19] <eric__> Sanne: Maybe email?
[01:19] <Sanne> eric__: no, sorry
[01:19] <eric__> I have an idea.
[01:20] <Sanne> eric__: ok?
[01:20] <eric__> Sanne: I think I may have an answer.
[01:20] <seabre> ron: type this command.. cd /media/floppy0 && ls
[01:20] <Sanne> eric__: which one?
[01:20] <ron999> ic56 i think you missed my answer, the reply was   mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
[01:20] <ic56> ron999: sorry, I missed your earlier comment, Just saw it now.
[01:20] <ron999> ic 56 what next please
[01:21] <chokes> hi all
[01:21] <ic56> ron999: Your fstab entry doesn't specify vfat as the default filesystem.  So, we'll provide it on the command line.  Like so: mount -t vfat /media/floppy0
[01:21] <plancton> hi all
[01:21] <chokes> whats goin on with the repository server?
[01:21] <ron999> ic56,ok wait please
[01:21] <chokes> is it back online?
[01:22] <mimithebrain> chokes: yes, it's up
[01:22] <chokes> mmk
[01:22] <chokes> so why i cant update my sources?
[01:22] <mimithebrain> chokes: read the fabulous post at LQ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2347158#post2347158 if you have more problems
[01:22] <chokes> ok tanx :)
[01:22] <mimithebrain> I explain there the instruction to writting another source.list until local mirrors catch up
[01:23] <ron999> ic56 it says only root can do that
[01:23] <mimithebrain> very simple I may add...
[01:23] <santa99> where can i look where my sound is mounted
[01:23] <tritium> santa99: alsamixer
[01:24] <ron_> does anyone use much in the way of CFLAGS and cpu instructions ??
[01:24] <ic56> ron999: Mmmm, that's unpleasant (and shouldn't be the default config).  Oh, well add sudo -- like so: sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy0
[01:24] <plancton> please, help me. i `m from Brasil and i'm dont speak englesh but i wanna know how check my hard disck. (in ubuntu 5.10)?
[01:24] <plancton> please, help me. i `m from Brasil and i'm dont speak englesh but i wanna know how check my hard disck. (in ubuntu 5.10)?
[01:24] <tritium> ic56: it _should_ be the default
[01:24] <plancton> please, help me. i `m from Brasil and i'm dont speak englesh but i wanna know how check my hard disck. (in ubuntu 5.10)?
[01:24] <plancton> sorry
[01:25] <tritium> plancton: please don't repeat
[01:25] <m3talc0re> tritium: i really don't get it
[01:25] <tritium> m3talc0re: what now?
[01:25] <m3talc0re> tritium: i tried both enabled and disabled and for some unknown reason it works now, lol
[01:25] <santa99> tritium, and where in alsamixer i have no plan
[01:25] <m3talc0re> i'm on ubuntu right now with gaim in here
[01:25] <ron999> ic56 it wont have it, says:-ron@ron-desktop:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy0
[01:25] <ron999> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[01:25] <ron999>        mount -h                 : print this help
[01:25] <ron999>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[01:25] <ron999>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[01:25] <ron999> So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
[01:25] <ron999> The command is `mount [-t fstype]  something somewhere'.
[01:25] <ron999> Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
[01:25] <ron999>        mount -a [-t|-O]  ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
[01:25] <ic56> tritium: yes.  The funny thing is, ron999's /etc/fstab entry *does* have the "user" flag on /dev/fd0  wierd
[01:25] <tritium> ron999: pastebin!
[01:25] <ron999>        mount device             : mount device at the known place
[01:25] <ron999>        mount directory          : mount known device here
[01:25] <ron999>        mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command
[01:26] <ic56> ron999: please don't paste more than 2 lines in the channel.  For longer output, use the pastebin
[01:26] <ron999> ic56 what is pastebin
[01:26] <santa99> pastebin.ca
[01:26] <ic56> !pastebin
[01:26] <tritium> ron999: please don't paste again, okay?
[01:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:26] <tritium> ic56: yeah, that is odd, then
[01:27] <eric__> Sanne: http://homepage.mac.com/beyere/Personal135.html
[01:27] <Sanne> eric__: looking
[01:27] <eric__> Sanne: Thanks for that.
[01:28] <plancton> thank, guys. leter a try again
[01:28] <ic56> ron999: hmm, odd.  Maybe mount requires both device and filesystem when you supply a filesystem type?  Hang on, I'll test it on my system.
[01:28] <Bison> apt question
[01:28] <Nuked> are the reops working?
[01:28] <ron999> ic56 ok ill wait
[01:29] <Bison> how do i search for a package
[01:29] <Nuked> *repos
[01:29] <stallion88> any clue how to configure the multimedia keys of my d620 latitude??  the volume keys and muting...
[01:29] <Bison> Nuked: yes, repos are now up
[01:29] <mimithebrain> Bison: you can use synaptic
[01:29] <Sanne> eric__: btw, I just got gnash-0.7.1 and ran a configure. I got one error about missing sdl devel libs I would need to install, but not regarding X. So don't despair, it should be possible :)
[01:29] <eric__> Bison: Maybe use Synaptic?
[01:29] <mimithebrain> Nuked: yes... :)
[01:29] <Bison> mimithebrain: can I use apt-get to search?
[01:29] <rr72> bison apt-cach search
[01:29] <Bison> ah ha!
[01:29] <Bison> thanks
[01:29] <bimberi> Bison: Applications -> Add/Remove...
[01:29] <rr72> np
[01:29] <mimithebrain> Bison: er... if your looking for a CLI solution, use aptitude
[01:29] <rr72> i need some help
[01:29] <eric__> Sanne: Am I out of line thinking the gnash devs might have compiled some bin's for us newbies?
[01:29] <Bison> aptitude?
[01:29] <Bison> okay
[01:30] <Bison> thanks for the advice
[01:30] <mimithebrain> Bison: as for using apt-get, I'm not sure
[01:30] <Cyberai> how do you find out at the command line what the current version is of something your running
[01:30] <Cyberai> ?
[01:30] <rr72> kdm is screwed up, i get a signal 11
[01:30] <mimithebrain> Bison: yeah, it's pretty nice too, it's synaptic in the console
[01:30] <bimberi> Cyberai: command --version    frequently works
[01:30] <Bison> apt-cache worked perfectly
[01:30] <mimithebrain> Cyberais: apt-cache show I think
[01:30] <tritium> aptitude rocks
[01:30] <Bison> thanks
[01:30] <rr72> bison np
[01:31] <rr72> kdm wont start
[01:31] <mimithebrain> rr72: what did you install just recently?
[01:31] <rr72> i searched logs and it gets a signal 11 and aborts
[01:31] <rr72> no
[01:31] <rr72> its been working for a while
[01:31] <Sanne> eric__: you'll learn for live if you stick with it now ;). I'd like to show you something, are you ready?
[01:31] <mimithebrain> rr72: some programs just crash "just because" a library is stepping on their turf
[01:31] <rr72> went away on vacation and it wasnt working when i came home
[01:31] <eric__> Sanne: shoot!
[01:32] <mimithebrain> rr72: I mean, what did you install just recently?
[01:32] <rr72> mimithebrain~ this time i didnt screw it up
[01:32] <Sanne> eric__: please find the line: onfigure:10679: checking for X
[01:32] <rr72> nothing
[01:32] <Sanne> eric__: sorry, configure:10679: checking for X
[01:32] <rr72> havent installed anything for a few weeks
[01:32] <mimithebrain> rr72: ok, well, maybe reinstalling it, I don't know...
[01:32] <eric__> Sanne: got it.
[01:32] <eric__> Sanne: instrinsic.h?
[01:33] <Sanne> eric__: look 2 lines below, you see: conftest.c:43:27: error: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
[01:33] <Sanne> heh
[01:33] <Flav> Q: anyone willing to explain deb-src in sources.list and why I can't apt-build php4 from security?
[01:33] <rr72> mimithebrain~ tried it, i purged it too
[01:33] <Sanne> eric__: now go to packages.ubuntu.com
[01:33] <Gareth^> is ca.archive.ubuntu.com still down?
[01:33] <stallion88> any clue how to configure the multimedia keys of my d620 latitude??  the volume keys and muting...
[01:33] <mimithebrain> Gareth yes
[01:33] <Gareth^> cheers mimithebrain
[01:33] <eric__> Sanne: I'm there.
[01:33] <ron_> stallion apt-get install lineakd
[01:34] <Steph14> Ok, so what the best IRC client for Ubuntu?  I'm used to mIrc on Win xp
[01:34] <mimithebrain> Gareth: here is a solution: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2347158#post2347158
[01:34] <Gareth^> Steph14, xchat
[01:34] <rr72> xchat
[01:34] <ic56> ron999: aaah.  the behaviour gets complicated when root has to get involved.  The reason root has to get involved is because vfat isn't listed as a filesystem type.  Oh well.  We can look into providing better defalts later.  For now, this will work:  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[01:34] <rr72> gaim is the worst
[01:34] <Sanne> eric__: go to section "Search the contents of packages", put in "Intrinsic.h", and lets see what package name it spits out that contains that file.
[01:34] <Nuked> Steph14: xchat, irssi...
[01:34] <mimithebrain> rr72: but it does the job
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Konversation
[01:34] <ron999> ic56 ok, wait
[01:34] <rr72> hm 3 people so far say xchat
[01:34] <rr72> its pretty good them
[01:34] <stallion88> any clue how to configure the multimedia keys of my d620 latitude??  the volume keys and muting...
[01:34] <rr72> *n
[01:34] <mikere> Is ca.archive.ubuntu.com down right now?
[01:35] <Gareth^> cheers again mimithebrain - although I'm guessing you no doubt have that on a hotkey
[01:35] <Nuked> the latest xchat is 2.6.6
[01:35] <rr72> stallion88~ google?
[01:35] <Gareth^> mikere, yes
[01:35] <eric__> Sanne: Searching.
[01:35] <NineTeen67Comet> Is there more to getting Java setup than .. sudo update-alternatives --config java and selecting the one you want to use?
[01:35] <mimithebrain> mikere: yes, still down
[01:35] <Gareth^> mikere, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2347158#post2347158
[01:35] <mikere> Thanks
[01:35] <ron_> ahem stallion88 theres a program called lineakd
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> rr72:  Tried Xchat, prefer Konversation
[01:35] <Nuked> I cant seem to change my gdm theme
[01:35] <Gareth^> !archive
[01:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about archive - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:35] <rr72> i need help with kdm and signal 11 it just terminates
[01:35] <Gareth^> !ca.archive
[01:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about ca.archive - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:35] <eric__> Sanne: Got one.  "libdevel/libxt-dev"
[01:35] <mimithebrain> the full name is archive.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <ron999> ic56 answer is:-   mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist
[01:36] <eric__> Sanne: Should I apt-get install libxt-dev?
[01:36] <m3talc0re> tritium: if i try to install updated drivers for my video card, do i risk the bs i got before about x server?
[01:36] <ron_> anyway does anyone know much about compiling from source with cpu instructions?
[01:36] <mimithebrain> !mirrors
[01:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> rr72: Thanks to synaptic it is easy to install and try several
[01:36] <Sanne> eric__: yes, there are two listed, but this one looks promising. So install libxt-dev to get the file gnash wants :)
[01:36] <eric__> Sanne: May be because I'm just searching ppc.
[01:36] <Steph14> Thanks for the info on Xchat... now I don't have to boot back to windows to use IRC
[01:37] <rr72> jack i just use cmd line since i prefer text
[01:37] <Sanne> eric__: ah. But apt-get install libxt-dev would be correct.
[01:37] <rr72> but i use xchat on this computer
[01:37] <stallion88> ron_, thanks
[01:37] <NineTeen67Comet> !j2se
[01:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about j2se - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:37] <ron_> sure thing
[01:37] <stallion88> !j2re
[01:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about j2re - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:37] <rr72> Jack_Sparrow~ i even use xchat for winbloze
[01:37] <stallion88> !java
[01:37] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:37] <ic56> ron999: how odd. Do this for me tell me what you see (if >2 lines, use pastebin).  ls -ld /dev/fd*
[01:38] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[01:38] <cliffd> hey can someone tell me this. During the install is there a way to pick what packages I want installed? thanks.
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> AH
[01:38] <rayston> uhh, im lost, my secondary HD is currently noexec, and Ineed to remount it NOT noexec...how do Ido that?I know I will use the mount command but I cant figure out the exact command?
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> I used to use kvirc
[01:38] <mimithebrain> cliffd: alternate cd I think
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cliffd: after install
[01:39] <mimithebrain> mount -o remount,exec /dev/mydrive ?
[01:39] <ron999> ic56 it says bash: -ld: command not found
[01:39] <Steph14> I see there is a win version of xchat...so I can check it out without rebooting
[01:39] <eric__> Sanne: Just installed a bunch of stuff totaling about 7.8 Mb.  Now running ./configure again.
[01:39] <Sanne> eric__: ok
[01:39] <Nethernet> isthere any way to translate the stuff in dmesg to dates/times?
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Steph14: there is also a verion of kvirc
[01:39] <ic56> ron999: You must have missed the "ls" part of the command.  Here it is again:  ls -ld /dev/fd*
[01:39] <louis_> hi all
[01:40] <mimithebrain> Nethernet: yeah, use the system log viewer that comes with ubuntu
[01:40] <ron999> ic56 yes ill try again
[01:40] <cliffd> mimithebrain: is that what the CD is called?
[01:40] <Nethernet> mimithebrain: i'm not running a gui on this system
[01:40] <cliffd> Jack_Sparrow: so I have to remove the packages after the fact. once the install is done? thanks.
[01:40] <rr72> so im better off getting help in #kde about ubuntu as usual
[01:40] <rr72> ??
[01:40] <Nuked> I get this weird error everytime I try to change my gdm theme, and it tells me that I should reinstall gdm
[01:40] <eric__> Sanne: Good news/bad news.
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Sure whatever you want to do it is easy in synaptic
[01:41] <Sanne> eric__: different error?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> cliffd:  Sure whatever you want to do it is easy in synaptic
[01:41] <ron999> ic56 answer is:- lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-07-23 20:08 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd
[01:41] <bluefoxicy> Apple's market share is 12% for laptops
[01:41] <cliffd> Jack_Sparrow: thanks.
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:41] <bluefoxicy> Ubuntu should get HP or something to distribute Ubuntu laptops :D
[01:41] <rayston> uhh, im lost, my secondary HD is currently noexec, and Ineed to remount it NOT noexec...how do Ido that?I know I will use the mount command but I cant figure out the exact command?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> rr72: What your problem
[01:41] <codecaine> on my ubuntu on my laptop if I do like ctrl+alt and f# everything is black accept for the gui one
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> s
[01:41] <bluefoxicy> (as cool as that would be...)
[01:41] <ic56> ron999: "ls" (short for LiSt) displays files.  It's equivalent to the Windows "dir" command.  It is the command line equivalent of the Ubuntu/GNOME Nautilus and the Windows "Windows Explorer"
[01:41] <eric__> Sanne: We get past the "checking for X" line.  Now we get "We need a working libXext to proceed.  Since configure can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find them either."
[01:41] <codecaine> what could cause this?
[01:41] <Subhuman> BlueEagle, they do in SA
[01:41] <ron999> ic56 ok
[01:42] <bluefoxicy> Subhuman:  south affrica?
[01:42] <tuliomgui> someone please help me configure my video card??
[01:42] <tanath> rayston: edit /etc/fstab
[01:42] <rr72> Jack_Sparrow~ kdm is terminating via a signal 11
[01:42] <Subhuman> bluefoxicy, yes
[01:42] <Stephanie14> Xchat is a little different from mirc.. have to get used to it
[01:42] <tuliomgui> I'd like to usa a 70Hz refresh rate but it is not able
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> rr72: what were the last things you changed
[01:42] <minerale> how can I close a window using the keyboard? In osx I simply press Apple + W, and in MSwindows it's CTRL - W  -- > any similar shortcut in windows  ( other than alt f4 )
[01:42] <rr72> Jack_Sparrow~ nothing
[01:42] <Stephanie14> Guess I'm logged in both in mirc and xchat...
[01:42] <tanath> minerale: what's wrong with alt+f4?
[01:43] <Sanne> eric__: if the X checking works now, that wonderful! So rinse and repeat for every other error you get :) I look at the config.log, it should tell me about your next error, you might do the same.
[01:43] <minerale> tanath: hard to reach, f4 requires stretching
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> rr72: Something was installed or changed
[01:43] <rr72> well it was working fine when i left for vacation
[01:43] <tanath> minerale: how about alt+space, c
[01:43] <Nethernet> Stephanie14: i prefer the 'xchat' package vs. the 'xchat-gnome' package- i might...try that
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> rr72: and no one had access?
[01:43] <Nethernet> or leave... that works too
[01:43] <eric__> Sanne: OK.  Now I get /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext
[01:43] <rr72> Jack_Sparrow~ over 2 weeks ago and it has been fine since then
[01:43] <minerale> tanath: does not seem to be working ( I'm using compiz by the way )
[01:43] <mimithebrain> rr72: it's either corrupted files or log, or something installed IMNSHO
[01:43] <tanath> minerale: you have two hands :P
[01:44] <ic56> ron999: ah.  So there's no /dev/fd0 but instead there's a /dev/fd  which is a symbolic link to /proc/self/fd  That's a wierd target for a symlink but let's go with it.  Could you please "grep floppy /etc/fstab"?  I apologise but your previous answer has shifted out of my log -- I didn't expect this to take so long.
[01:44] <rr72> mimithebrain~ nothing has been installed
[01:44] <Nuked> is there anyone here knowledgeable particularly in terms of GDM?
[01:44] <Sanne> eric__: oh, there's a package libxext-dev. Do you have it installed?
[01:44] <Steph14> So whats the difference between Xchat and xchat-gnome ?
[01:44] <tanath> minerale: hold alt, press space. should bring up the menu. hit c for close
[01:44] <mimithebrain> Nuked: shoot
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> rr72: No updates
[01:44] <minerale> ok, nevermind, CTRL - W seems to work on some programs
[01:44] <ron999> ic56 please type command again
[01:44] <rr72> the server has been down
[01:44] <minerale> tanath: it works on firefox but not terminal
[01:44] <Sanne> eric__: that message means it need the binary lib, not necessarily the dev version, so you might only need to install the lib.
[01:44] <mimithebrain> rr72: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | tail
[01:45] <Nuked> mimithebrain:  i get this strange error relating to glade, and it tells me that I should reinstall gdm
[01:45] <tanath> minerale: works for me on everything
[01:45] <ic56> ron999: Could you please "grep floppy /etc/fstab"
[01:45] <Bison> Okay I have a serious problem
[01:45] <rr72> no such file
[01:45] <Sanne> eric__: seems to be package libxext6
[01:45] <mimithebrain> Nuked: can you expand?
[01:45] <Bison> the default text editor in mutt is nano
[01:45] <tanath> minerale: alt+sp, c that is
[01:45] <Bison> it needs to be vim
[01:45] <eric__> Sanne: searching for libXext on the page you reference finds nothing.
[01:45] <ron999> ic56 0k
[01:45] <Nuked> mimithebrain: I am trying to reproduce the error
[01:45] <Sanne> eric__: you need to search now for the package name, not for the contents of packages.
[01:46] <eric__> Sanne:  OK.
[01:46] <ron999> ic56 answer is :- /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto rw,user,noauto  0   0
[01:46] <Bison> Anyone know how to change that?
[01:46] <Gun_Smoke> Problem with my clock.. it is 4hrs off and I can not change it..
[01:46] <rr72> mimithebrain~ there is only kdm from when i tried to reinstall it
[01:46] <tanath> gnomoradio keeps segfaulting when i add a non-empty directory, and it never saves the settings either
[01:46] <tuliomgui> please, someone help with my video card...
[01:46] <eric__> Sanne:  I see what you mean now.  I see that  ext6 too.
[01:46] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: man date
[01:46] <Gun_Smoke> Bison: ?
[01:46] <mimithebrain> tuliomgui: I'll try
[01:47] <tuliomgui> thanks
[01:47] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: you have to set the date using the cli app date
[01:47] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: did you try that?
[01:47] <rayston> tanath, how do I do that?
[01:47] <tuliomgui> i just want to put the refresh rate at 70Hz
[01:47] <Gun_Smoke> Bison: I don't understand.. I am new.
[01:47] <Sanne> eric__: so, install libxext6
[01:47] <mimithebrain> k
[01:47] <tuliomgui> but it is not able in the configurations
[01:47] <tuliomgui> I have a nVidia card
[01:47] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: alright I'll explain
[01:47] <eric__> Sanne: In progress.  Is compiling usually this painful?
[01:47] <mimithebrain> tuliomgui: one sec
[01:47] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: to set the time you type this
[01:47] <tuliomgui> ok!
[01:47] <tanath> rayston: try: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:48] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: sudo date MMDDHHMM
[01:48] <rr72> Jack_Sparrow~ u ther?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> YEa
[01:48] <Sanne> eric__: not if you have all libs abd source files (development packages) already installed. At first, yes, it is, unfortunately. That's why package managers are soooo convenient ;)
[01:48] <rr72> any ideas?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> I was in another channel, whats up?
[01:48] <mimithebrain> tuliomgui: you can always write a modeline in the configs
[01:49] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: does that make sense?
[01:49] <ic56> ron999: ok.  Your system is clearly messed up: the contents of /etc/fstab doesn't match the device filenames in /dev .  I wonder what you did to that system....  Anyway, let's go with that wierd device you *do* have.  Try this:  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd /media/floppy0
[01:49] <m3talc0re> i've got an fx5200, which drivers should i download?
[01:49] <Gun_Smoke> Sort of..
[01:49] <rayston> kay, and what do I do? find where it says noexec and remove that? do I need to replace it with something?
[01:49] <tuliomgui> the xorg config you mean?
[01:49] <mimithebrain> tuliomgui:correct
[01:49] <tuliomgui> how do i do that?
[01:49] <rayston> tanath : kay, and what do I do? find where it says noexec and remove that? do I need to replace it with something?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[01:49] <eric__> Sanne: I got the same error.
[01:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <tuliomgui> !nvidia
[01:49] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[01:49] <mimithebrain> tuliomgui: you can follow this howto : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[01:50] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: example: date 07230755
[01:50] <orcdestroyer> well... how can I buy some computer to install only the ubuntu 5.10 ?
[01:50] <Sanne> eric__: oh :(
[01:50] <Gun_Smoke> Bison:  But what caused it to change, and will it ever come around to sync with internet servers like I chose?
[01:50] <tuliomgui> let me see
[01:50] <ic56> ron999: figuring that if one thing is messed up, another might be too, could you also please run this command and tell me the output (pastebin if >2 lines):  ls -ld /media/floppy*
[01:50] <tuliomgui> thanks man
[01:50] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: you have it set to sync with internet servers? How in the world did you do that?
[01:50] <mimithebrain> tuliomgui: np
[01:50] <tanath> rayston: what kind of partition is it? simply removing noexec should work
[01:50] <tuliomgui> any doubt ill talk to you!
[01:50] <eric__> Sanne: I'm thinking I install those other libraries?
[01:50] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: are you dual booting with windows?
[01:50] <tanath> rayston: then you'll need to remount it
[01:50] <rayston> its an ext2
[01:51] <Sanne> eric__: where did it say it expects libxext?
[01:51] <rayston> ahh, how do I remount then?
[01:51] <Gun_Smoke> Bison:  No, OSx
[01:51] <mimithebrain> later everyone
[01:51] <eric__> Sanne: 2 lines after the line where it says "checking for X"
[01:51] <rayston> tanath : ahh, how do I remount then?
[01:51] <ron999> ic56 last night i got help from a forum, i had to enter that last line in fstab myself and had to create the file in/media, any way this is answer :_ mount: /dev/fd is not a block device
[01:51] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: I don't know about OSX, but I do know that Windows doesn't play well with others...it will change your hardware clock to your local time
[01:51] <tanath> so it should be something like this:  /dev/device       /mnt/device       ext2    defaults,user   0       0
[01:51] <Sanne> eric__: lol, no, I mean, could you repaste the error, please?
[01:52] <Nuked> mAn error occurred while loading user interface element local_background_image_chooserbutton from file /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade.  Possibly the glade interface description was corrupted.  gdm cannot continue and will exit now.  You should check your installation of gdm or reinstall gdm.iimithebrain:
[01:52] <Bison> Gun_Smoke: So that may have changed it, if you booted in to OSX
[01:52] <Bison> sorry i gotta run
[01:52] <Bison> take care
[01:52] <Nuked> mimithebrain An error occurred while loading user interface element local_background_image_chooserbutton from file /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade.  Possibly the glade interface description was corrupted.  gdm cannot continue and will exit now.  You should check your installation of gdm or reinstall gdm.
[01:52] <eric__> Sanne: Oh.
[01:52] <tanath> rayston: unmount it with umount, then mount it again
[01:52] <ron999> ic56 wait please
[01:52] <Nuked> oh damn
[01:52] <oga> i'm trying to follow some other online instruction guides but it says that i can't use "make", command not found, but i've installed binutils, what else do i need?
[01:52] <NineTeen67Comet> Anyone have an idea where I can look and see how come java isn't working? I tried  sudo update-alternatives --config java .. and selected the newly installed blackdown (sun-java wasn't working either) .. still nothing .. help?
[01:53] <Nuked> oga install build-essentials?
[01:53] <eric__> Sanne:  "configure: error:  We need a working libXext to proceed.  Since configure can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find them either."
[01:53] <kitsuneofdoom> I have a radeon. the fglrx driver doesn't work. I can't use OpenGL at all. Any way to fix that?
[01:53] <ron999> ic 56 answer:- drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-07-22 01:47 /media/floppy0
[01:53] <tanath> NineTeen67Comet: use it from the terminal to see output?
[01:53] <Daver2u> Hey guys. question: I try to check for updates or refresh synaptic and it freezes at downloading 7/8. is there anyway i can remove one or more of the source repositories that are offline so it gets all the info? If so which ones would I disable?
[01:53] <robertj> has anyone here successfully gotten the mythical windows refund check from Dell?
[01:53] <oga> Nuked thanks
[01:53] <prophet_> i was kicked from winehq for being a n00b
[01:53] <Gun_Smoke> Bison:  Well NOW i was able to change the time... just a couple of hours ago I wasn't.  All of the menus were not available to me.. They just weren't there.. If I choose "adjust date and time" prompted for password, it would fail.
[01:53] <ic56> ron999: yes, I just researched a little.  apparently a /dev/fd symlink *is* standard.  And, I suspect, it has nothing to do with Floppy Drives.  I think it's a reference to the current' process's File Descriptors -- a beast of an entirely different nature.
[01:53] <Sanne> eric__: ok, just to amuse us, install also the dev package libxext-dev. I have this and the binary package, and get no complaints.
[01:54] <Nuked> is there anyone in here that can help with my GDM issue its killing me!
[01:54] <m3talc0re> aww
[01:54] <eric__> Sanne: Doing that presently.
[01:54] <Gun_Smoke> Bison:  I figured it had something to do with most of Ubuntu's servers being down.
[01:54] <m3talc0re> ubuntu can't read my ntfs partition can it
[01:54] <tanath> kitsuneofdoom: sudo modproble fglrx might help...
[01:54] <jrib> m3talc0re: yes, it can
[01:54] <jrib> !ntfs > m3talc0re
[01:54] <eric__> Sanne: This old iMac is slower than molasses.
[01:54] <kitsuneofdoom> tanath: the driver crashes the system
[01:54] <m3talc0re> t/y, i'll look and see
[01:54] <tanath> kitsuneofdoom: o.O
[01:54] <Nuked> ANYONE please
[01:55] <ron999> ic56 ok what now
[01:55] <mcphail> m3talc0re: just don't try witing to it
[01:55] <Sanne> eric__: ok. I will be back shortly, gonna make me some coffee :). You can try configure meanwhile :)
[01:55] <Daver2u> Nuked what is your issue
[01:55] <eric__> Sanne: OK.  It's running.
[01:55] <Nuked> An error occurred while loading user interface element local_background_image_chooserbutton from file /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade.  Possibly the glade interface description was corrupted.  gdm cannot continue and will exit now.  You should check your installation of gdm or reinstall gdm.
[01:55] <Nuked> thats the error daver2u
[01:55] <kitsuneofdoom> I have a radeon. the fglrx driver doesn't work, it crashes the system. I can't use OpenGL at all. Any way to fix that, getting OpenGL to work under the ati driver?
[01:55] <eon> I have the ATI-IXP sound/modem combo in my laptop, and i updated the kernel thru software update and now the sound is really low
[01:55] <Subhuman> kitsuneofdoom, use the binary ati driver
[01:55] <Daver2u> possible try reinstalling glade
[01:55] <Subhuman> !ati
[01:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:55] <eon> and i installed aumix and upped everything
[01:55] <Daver2u> ?
[01:55] <eon> still low
[01:55] <eon> any ideas?
[01:56] <prophet_> what does verbose mean?
[01:56] <ron999> ic56 shall i tell you the commands i put in last night
[01:56] <ic56> ron999: ok, before we go off creating device entries, let's confirm what kind of hardware you have.  What type of CPU do you have?  Intel pentium something?  AMD something?  PowerPC?  Also, how many floppy drives physically installed in your system?
[01:56] <mcphail> prophet_: wordy
[01:56] <Subhuman> prophet_, like outputs details
[01:56] <kitsuneofdoom> Subhuman: I mentioned, with the binary driver, X doesn't load
[01:56] <bruenig> prophet, gives you a lot of extra info
[01:56] <Nuked> daver2u i thought I had... is there a way to reinstall gdm?
[01:56] <Gun_Smoke> win32codecs?  Why can I not fine anything out about them?
[01:56] <Daver2u> yeah
[01:56] <jrib> !w32codecs > Gun_Smoke
[01:56] <prophet_> verbose life
[01:56] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[01:56] <Daver2u> apt-get install gdm-desktop
[01:56] <kitsuneofdoom> I have a radeon. THE BINARY DRIVER MAKES X CRASH IRREPLABLY. I can't use OpenGL at all. Any way to fix that, getting OpenGL to work under the open source ati driver?
[01:56] <Daver2u> ? i think
[01:57] <prophet_> anyone this isssue : when Steam logs on it just freezes and starts shuitting down
[01:57] <Daver2u> put sudo b4 that
[01:57] <ic56> ron999: how many commands did you use last night?  A pastebin of them might be useful, if you have them handy.
[01:57] <Nuked> no package
[01:57] <ron999> ic56 amd k6400mhz cpu 6.2 gb hard drive partitioned, cd player. 1 floppy drive
[01:57] <Daver2u> could be gde-desktop i dont know the exact name of the package
[01:58] <jrib> Nuked: 'gdm' is the name of the package
[01:58] <Daver2u> Im a newb too but when i put kdm on i used that commane
[01:58] <Daver2u> *command
[01:58] <bruenig> !info gdm
[01:58] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.14.9-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1675 kB, installed size 11504 kB
[01:58] <ic56> ron999: good answer on the hardware.
[01:58] <bruenig> appears to be sudo apt-get install gdm
[01:58] <Nuked> yes but what di I do about this bruenig apt-get install gdm-desktop
[01:58] <ron999> ic56 first was sudo mkdir /media/floppy0.....wait
[01:58] <Gun_Smoke> jrib:  I have looked over those pagers before.. They don't make much sense to me.. I am new..
[01:58] <Nuked> whoops
[01:59] <bruenig> Nuked, don't use that
[01:59] <jrib> Gun_Smoke: join me in #ubuntu-classroom and I'll walk you through it
[01:59] <Daver2u> question: I try to check for updates or refresh synaptic and it freezes at downloading 7/8. is there anyway i can remove one or more of the source repositories that are offline so it gets all the info? If so which ones would I disable?
[01:59] <Nuked> bruenig I meant An error occurred while loading user interface element local_background_image_chooserbutton from file /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade.  Possibly the glade interface description was corrupted.  gdm cannot continue and will exit now.  You should check your installation of gdm or reinstall gdm.
[01:59] <ron999> ic56 next was sudo gedit /etc/fstab......wait
[01:59] <bruenig> reinstall it like it says
[01:59] <bruenig> Nuked, if need be do sudo apt-get remove gdm, then do sudo apt-get install gdm
[02:00] <kitsuneofdoom> I have a radeon. THE BINARY DRIVER MAKES X CRASH IRREPLABLY. I can't use OpenGL at all. Any way to fix that, getting OpenGL to work under the open source ati driver?
[02:00] <Sanne> eric__: back. How did it go?
[02:00] <Daver2u> haha I was right lol
[02:00] <ron999> ic56 last was /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[02:00] <bruenig> !repeat
[02:00] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:00] <FurryNemesis> anyone know how I run the program I've just installed under wine? The path to the .exe file isn't recognised, I can see it but the box can't. Any suggestions?
[02:00] <Nuked> bruenig referring to me?
[02:00] <bruenig> FurryNemesis, check the path, make sure it is correct
[02:01] <Daver2u> Nuked: bruenig referring to me? yes
[02:01] <bruenig> Nuked, no i was talking about kitsuneofdoom
[02:01] <ic56> ron999: that last one isn't a command but the text you entered in /etc/fstab (which is reasonable, btw)
[02:01] <kitsuneofdoom> bruenig: I tend to repeat when it goes off the screen, and I see a few people have joined since then. Which occured
[02:01] <Daver2u> apt-get remove gdm
[02:01] <Daver2u> then apt-get install gdm
[02:01] <bruenig> kitsuneofdoom, whatever I don't care, i dont even know why I did it
[02:01] <ron999> ic56 ok, what next
[02:01] <Nuked> daver thanks but im on it
[02:01] <ic56> ron999: which leaves us to conclude that your ubuntu system had *no* knowledge of any floppy drive whatsoever until you started teaching it last night.
[02:02] <FurryNemesis> bruenig, tried that, so did a friend. I'd swear it was correct, although the path begins something like home/username/.wine
[02:02] <prophet_> what was that mmixer also command to bring up the mix?
[02:02] <prophet_> alsa*
[02:02] <ron999> ic56 yes i think ubuntu hasn't seen my floppy during install,
[02:02] <ic56> ron999: there can be a few reasons for that: malfunctioning floppy drive, misconfigured BIOS, or some mix up during the installation process.
[02:02] <bruenig> FurryNemisis, what is the path? also remember it is case sensitive
[02:02] <mcphail> FurryNemesis: it would be /home/username, not home/username
[02:03] <FurryNemesis> urgh
[02:03] <ic56> ron999: let's take a gamble and create a device manually.  If it doesn't work, we'll delete it and you'll have to battle it out with your hardware
[02:03] <eric__> Sanne: Got much, much further this time.
[02:03] <prophet_> alsa mmixer?
[02:03] <FurryNemesis> you mean all this troubke because I left out a / right at the start? heh, thought it might be one little error....
[02:03] <ron999> ic56 floppy is ok in windows, have had no trouble with bios, ubuntu seemed to install ok one week ago , let's go for it
[02:03] <Sanne> eric__: isn't it fun? ;) How far did it go?
[02:03] <FurryNemesis> will try that, tyvm
[02:03] <bruenig> FurryNemesis, the easiest way to make sure the path is correct is to use tab completition as much as possible, if it wont tab complete then you know you have done something wrong
[02:04] <bruenig> completion*
[02:04] <mcphail> FurryNemesis: would be easier to type wine ~/.wine/etc
[02:04] <FurryNemesis> bruenig, thanks a lot
[02:04] <kitsuneofdoom> I have a radeon. The official ATi driver makes X crash as soon as it loads. I can't use OpenGL at all, not even glxgears. Any way to fix that, getting OpenGL to work under the open source ati driver?
[02:04] <ic56> ron999: All right, do this: sudo mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0
[02:05] <ZeebO_xl> gdf
[02:05] <ron999> ic56 ok, done it
[02:06] <ic56> ron999: this creates a device (MaKe NODe) with filename /dev/fd0  of type Block type (as opposed to Character type) with major number 2 (the kernel's floppy driver) and minor number 0 (the first floppy drive)
[02:06] <ron999> ok, done it , what now
[02:07] <ic56> ron999: now, let's try that mount command again.  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[02:07] <eric__> Sanne:  ?close to the end? It's griping that I need to install libxml2; ogg vorbis dev pkg (-lopengl32, -lglu32); SDL dev package (libsdl1.2-dev); SDL mixer dev package (libsdl-mixer1.2-dev).  I'm chasing those down now.
[02:07] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[02:07] <kitsuneofdoom> perhaps also telling me how to get fglrx to work on my HPdv5000 with the RADEON XPRESS 200M, which is said on the wiki to cause some problem
[02:08] <Sanne> eric__: ok, I see you learned well :). I just saw in the gnash README there's a paragraph about needed packages, might also help if you haven't looked there already.
[02:08] <prophet_> what do these wierd numbers mean  0xffffe410
[02:08] <eric__> Sanne: I'm hitting brick walls.
[02:08] <Sanne> eric__: let me help
[02:08] <ron999> ic56 done it and the floppy powered up, what next
[02:08] <inukotsu> ARRRGGHHH!!!!!!!!
[02:09] <eric__> OK.
[02:09] <eric__> Sanne: OK.  I don't need to install libxml2, as I thought.
[02:09] <bruenig> inukotsu, what is the problem
[02:09] <inukotsu> STUPID. LINUX.
[02:09] <inukotsu> BOX!!!!!
[02:09] <inukotsu> *sigh
[02:09] <ic56> ron999: if the mount works, we should finish the floppy drive config to bring your system to the normal Ubuntu standard.  Like so: sudo ln -s floppy0 /media/floppy
[02:09] <inukotsu> long story
[02:09] <bruenig> inukotsu, might calm down, they like to kick people
[02:09] <eric__> Sanne: What it's saying is No libxml2 development package installed! Reconfigure with --disable-sml to continue.
[02:09] <ron999> ic56, ok wait
[02:10] <eric__> Sanne: disable-xml
[02:10] <chemaja> i know there exists a wiki KnownIssue on this, but has anyone actually attempted to repartition using the kubuntu installer, and if so, did it in fact crash?
[02:10] <inukotsu> my lil sis's comp cant boot from cd, so i take her hd, stick it in my machine and instal linux. then i take out the hd, put it in her machine, and now kde wont start
[02:10] <chemaja> ^^ kubuntu
[02:10] <inukotsu> all i get is the bas shell
[02:10] <inukotsu> *bash
[02:10] <ron999> ic56 done sudo ln -s floppy0 /media/floppy, what next
[02:10] <bruenig> inukotsu, have you tried startx
[02:11] <inukotsu> lemmie see
[02:11] <raskolnikov> can someone tell me how i can change the settings so i wont have to give a password everytime i close my laptop lid?
[02:11] <Sanne> eric__: it means that configure defaults to look for libxml2. You have the option to decide you won't need that, so you can tell configure in this case to disable support for libxml. But I wouldn't advise that, I recommed keeping the defaults and chasing down the packages.
[02:11] <the_hammer> anyone here have an an drop
[02:11] <the_hammer> oops
[02:11] <the_hammer> eggdrop*
[02:11] <ic56> ron999: since the mount command worked, mount should now report the floppy drive as mounted.  Use "mount" without any arguments.  Among the output, you should see /media/floppy0 listed.  Pipe the output through grep if it's easier on your eyes
[02:11] <eric__> Sanne: So you think I should ignore that particular error?
[02:11] <Sanne> eric__: unless you know what you're doing, of course.
[02:11] <LjL> inukotsu: that doesn't quite surprise me, as her computer will have a different video card
[02:11] <LjL> inukotsu: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:11] <inukotsu> i get an error
[02:11] <eric__> Sanne: Made me laugh.
[02:12] <wil`yum> the share folders applet on my system has stopped working. Is that a common problem? where should i look first?
[02:12] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[02:12] <rayston> my sda1 drive is getting mounted noexec but I cant find noexec in fstab, how is that possible?
[02:12] <Sanne> eric__: no, I think you should give configure libxml2 :)
[02:12] <inukotsu> hold on, lemmie write it down
[02:12] <LjL> inukotsu: and perhaps try installing windows on a computer and then moving the HD to another computer, maybe you'll be less angry at linux ;)
[02:12] <eric__> Sanne: OK.  How do I do that?
[02:12] <rayston> here is my fstab line for that device, /dev/sda1       /mount/sda1               ext2    user,rw,errors=remount-ro 0       1    and here is the line from mount, /dev/sda1 on /mount/sda1 type ext2 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,errors=remount-ro)
[02:12] <rjd> has anyone ever set up qt manually?
[02:13] <bruenig> inukotsu, sorry I didn't read your original post until just now, when you install it, it configures the install to fit your hardware, you change the hardware you need to reconfigure. You might have to change quite a bit, not only the video settings although that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command should do a lot of it
[02:13] <Daver2u> ok I want to edit my repository sources file where is it and what is the filename?
[02:13] <the_hammer> l!pastebin
[02:13] <Sanne> eric__: as usual, we need to find out the package name, in this case, as it said, the dev package. We start with packages.ubuntu.compackage search for libxml.
[02:13] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[02:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:13] <bruenig> Daver2u, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:13] <LjL> bruenig: i don't think anything else is affected honestly, though who knows
[02:13] <rayston> if that was to me, sorry for the spam
[02:14] <eric__> Sanne: But... we already installed libxml2?
[02:14] <bruenig> LjL, maybe not, the moust configuration is likely not to change or sound, but the possibility exists
[02:14] <Sanne> eric__: oh! We did?
[02:14] <bruenig> mouse*
[02:14] <Daver2u> thanks
[02:14] <yoyoyo> hi everyone
[02:14] <Zambezi> Can anyone help me with rtorrent? I'm not sure it's compiled properly.
[02:14] <eric__> Sanne: Yeah - first thing I did was apt-get install libxml2 and it squaked that it was already installed.
[02:14] <ron999> ic56 theres approx 20 lines of text, but there's also another icon on top toolbar
[02:14] <LjL> bruenig: you mean mouse? that might change, but it's handled by the X server, and will be reconfigured with a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. and sound, i think it just gets detected at every boot
[02:14] <prophet_> im downloading CS it will probably run like shit
[02:15] <bruenig> Zambezi, you can install rtorrent via apt-get
[02:15] <rjd> I have qt4 installed from the universe, but it is only 4.1.2, but I want to use 4.1.4
[02:15] <bruenig> !info rtorrent
[02:15] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.4.2-1 (dapper), package size 152 kB, installed size 448 kB
[02:15] <yoyoyo> can anyone help me with synaptic?
[02:15] <Sanne> eric__: do you also have the corresponding -dev package?
[02:15] <rjd> I installed it, but I can't get the path set up right
[02:15] <ic56> ron999: so, is floppy0 listed in mount's output?
[02:15] <Zambezi> bruenig, rtorrent isn't avaible in Breezy.
[02:15] <eric__> Sanne:I haven't tried that.  Why don't I try that?
[02:15] <ron999> ic56, ah, wait
[02:15] <ic56> ron999: so, is floppy0 listed in mount's output?  Use grep if you're having a hard time locating it
[02:15] <Daver2u> ok I created a new sources file and it freezes at 35/40 grrrrrrrrr
[02:16] <prophet_> i minimized a app and i cant see it anymore how can i bring it up through termninal?
[02:16] <Sanne> eric__: because you're overwhelmed by all this new stuff? ;)
[02:16] <Nuked> daver bruenig  it didnt work
[02:16] <raskolnikov> does anyone know how to change the laptop setting that asks for a password when you close the lid?
[02:16] <eric__> Sanne: :) Gimme a min.
[02:16] <blackice> when i do a system update for some servers it shows me a error
[02:16] <Daver2u> blackice im dealing with that now....
[02:16] <Daver2u> lol
[02:16] <rayston> anybody want to help me with fstab? my secondary drive is getting mounted as noexec, but I cant find noexec in the fstab, here is a pastebin of the pertinent info, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18736  can anyone help me?
[02:16] <gemidjy> When I execute "gpg -bao dists/dapper/Release.gpg dists/dapper/Release" I get this error:
[02:16] <gemidjy> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available gpg: signing failed: secret key not available
[02:16] <blackice> ca.archive.ubuntu
[02:17] <yoyoyo> can anyone help me with synaptic?
[02:17] <Daver2u> and synaptic shows gnu and gcc installed but gcc doesnt work from the command line
[02:17] <bruenig> Zambezi, here is a link to a .deb of it, http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/rtorrent/rtorrent_0.4.2-1_i386.deb
[02:17] <ron999> ic56 tell me the grep command
[02:17] <wil`yum> the share folders applet on my system has stopped working. Is that a common problem? where should i look first?
[02:17] <capiCrimm> how can I remove the ubuntu icon next to "Applications" on the toolbar?
[02:18] <Zambezi> bruenig, But I'm installing it a serverinstall without X.
[02:18] <theSamo> anyone has help on installing breezy (in form of screenshots)?
[02:18] <prophet_> i minimized a app and i cant see it anymore how can i bring it up through termninal?
[02:18] <eric__> Sanne: I suppose the academic thing to do would be to re-run ./configure and see if the errors change.
[02:18] <ron999> ic56 please tell me the grep command
[02:18] <ic56> ron999: the syntax is: "grep <search string>".  To pipe the output of one command into the input of another, the syntax is: <first command> | <second command>
[02:18] <ic56> ron999: get it?
[02:18] <Sanne> eric__: either that, or work through your list of missing packages you gave some minutes ago first. As you like.
[02:18] <rayston> anybody want to help me with fstab? my secondary drive is getting mounted as noexec, but I cant find noexec in the fstab, here is a pastebin of the pertinent info, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18736  can anyone help me?
[02:18] <blackice> so can someone help me fix this server update problem
[02:18] <gemidjy> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
[02:18] <gemidjy> gpg: signing failed: secret key not available
[02:19] <ron999> ic56 sort of...so it's grep mount ?
[02:19] <Tokeiito> labanaktis (good night)
[02:19] <eric__> Sanne: Maybe then you could help me with the ogg vorbis development package?  There are references to 'lopengl32' and '-lglu32'.
[02:19] <yoyoyo> when trying to fetch a package with synaptic, I get a timeout message from the server,can anyone help?
[02:19] <ron999> ic56 grep mount doesn't work
[02:20] <inukotsu> ugh, look, there too many errors to retype. is there anyway to tell linux to rest the cofiguration data?
[02:20] <ic56> ron999: mount is the command that produces the output.  grep is the command you will use to search.  What are you searching for?  You are searching for the word floppy
[02:20] <inukotsu> *reset
[02:20] <ron999> ic56 ok i'll try grep floppy
[02:20] <Zambezi> bruenig, I can start the application, but I miss a couple of files. I can find where I change the port for example.
[02:20] <Sanne> eric__: but those are not ogg vorbis (sound) but grapgics packages (opengl). Let's first find the ogg dev package. Lets try to search for something like libogg or libvorbis.
[02:20] <ic56> ron999: mount | grep floppy
[02:20] <gemidjy> HOW DO I GET GPG KEY ?!
[02:20] <ron999> mount | grep floppy
[02:20] <LjL> !caps
[02:20] <bruenig> yoyoyo, do sudo apt-get update and see if there are any errors
[02:20] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:21] <LjL> !tell gemidjy about gpgerr
[02:21] <ron999> ic56 no output to mount | grep floppy
[02:21] <raskolnikov> what is the setting when you close the laptop lid and open it and it prompts you for a password called?
[02:21] <eric__> Sanne:buncha buncha packages under libogg.
[02:21] <raskolnikov> i dont know what to google
[02:21] <jrib> yoyoyo: I was having trouble with the ca. servers a while ago, try a mirror or just wait a bit
[02:21] <prophet_> i minimized a app and i cant see it anymore how can i bring it up through termninal?
[02:21] <raskolnikov> and i'm trying to find out how to change it
[02:21] <inukotsu> my lil sis's comp cant boot from cd, so i take her hd, stick it in my machine and instal linux. then i take out the hd, put it in her machine, and now kde wont start
[02:21] <bruenig> Zambezi, I got nothing, never used rtorrent, if you are using a server and such, you a probably much more capable than I,
[02:21] <inukotsu> is there anyway to tell linux to rest the cofiguration data?
[02:21] <blackice> when i do a system update for some servers it shows me a error ca.archive.ubuntu server isnt working
[02:21] <inukotsu> *reset
[02:22] <Sanne> eric__: I see in config.log it refers to ogg.h. Lets see which package provides that.
[02:22] <ic56> ron999: command is correct.  No output?  Hmmm that makes no sense.  Perhaps you made a typo?  Maybe mistyped "floppy" ?  Eye ball the output of mount manually  to confirm.
[02:22] <inukotsu> helloooo?
[02:22] <LjL> inukotsu: i gave you a suggestion about that - did it not bring any result?
[02:22] <inukotsu> eh
[02:22] <LjL> hello.
[02:22] <eric__> Sanne: "working."
[02:22] <Zambezi> bruenig, No. I guess not cause I'm a beginner. But I compiled the from the source, but I need to change the port, but I can find where to do it.
[02:22] <bruenig> inukotsu, reboot works well
[02:23] <eric__> Sanne: libdevel/libogg-dev
[02:23] <inukotsu> hold on
[02:23] <inukotsu> lemmie scroll up to see what you said
[02:23] <Sanne> eric__: yeah, got it also. So install that one.
[02:23] <prophet_> anyone?
[02:23] <ron999> ic56 i'm losing the plot...
[02:23] <LjL> inukotsu: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:23] <GuardianAtomos> Blah. I installed nxserver. But I can't connect to it from any other computer except from the computer with the server running. All other machines get a "timed out" error...
[02:23] <wil`yum> very busy here prophet_
[02:23] <eric__> Sanne:  While we were looking, I did run ./config and that libxml2 error is gone.
[02:23] <Sanne> eric__: maybe we also need libvorbis-dev, but I'm sure configure will tell us if so :)
[02:23] <GuardianAtomos> Any suggestions?
[02:23] <ron999> ic56 please say again what commmand
[02:24] <Sanne> eric__: good job!
[02:24] <bruenig> prophet_, try the alt-tab to scroll through the running programs
[02:24] <inukotsu> thanks LJL, i'kll try it
[02:24] <eric__> Sanne: Progress, measured in microns!
[02:24] <Sanne> eric__: patience ;)
[02:24] <eric__> Sanne: Now I'll start looking for libsdl1.2-dev
[02:24] <prophet_> its not listed
[02:24] <inukotsu> is that command universal to all linux distros?
[02:24] <bensr20det> How can I change my default music player?
[02:24] <Sanne> eric__: yeah, it may already be the correct package name.
[02:24] <ic56> ron999: type "mount".  It will list all the mounted filesystems.  Since the earlier "mount -t vfat ...." command succeeded, the output of the "mount" command without arguments should list the floppy amongst the mounted filesystems.
[02:24] <prophet_> its showing but not in the list
[02:25] <jrib> !defaultapp
[02:25] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[02:25] <bruenig> perhaps you hit the x instead of the _
[02:25] <prophet_> when i minimize its gone but still in the jovs
[02:25] <prophet_> jbos
[02:25] <rayston> anybody want to help me with fstab? my secondary drive is getting mounted as noexec, but I cant find noexec in the fstab, here is a pastebin of the pertinent info, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18736  can anyone help me?
[02:25] <eric__> Sanne: I think you are correct.  Nothing like searching for something you already know.
[02:25] <inukotsu> LJL: Is that command universal to all linux distros?
[02:25] <eric__> Sanne: Voice of search engine: Glad I could help.
[02:25] <Sanne> eric__: wait!
[02:25] <ron999> ic56 i typed mount and nothing happened
[02:25] <LjL> inukotsu: no, only debian-based distro (and the package name doesn't have to be xserver-xorg on all of them)
[02:26] <raskolnikov> does anyone know how to change the settings so i wont have to give a password everytime i close my laptop lid?
[02:26] <ic56> ron999: are you kidding me? No output whatsoever?  that's impossible.  Is your computer turned on?!
[02:26] <raskolnikov> or what its called so i can google it and figure it out
[02:26] <Sanne> eric__: there was something nasty about libsdl... like I needed libsdl1.2debian-all instead of libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-arts or some of those other packages.
[02:26] <ron999> ic56 just wait, ill explain.....
[02:26] <eric__> Sanne: errrp!
[02:27] <Sanne> eric__: can't remember, let me see what I have installed, sec
[02:27] <eric__> Sanne: I'm about waist deep into that install.
[02:27] <tich> i've been wandering around the repos looking for a good game but i can't find one that i want. can anyone recommend a good game?
[02:27] <ron999> ic56 in my media folder there is now floppy and floppy0......
[02:28] <ron999> ic56 on my top toolbar there are two icons for floppy and one is mounted....
[02:28] <Sanne> eric__: I have libsdl1.2debian-all and libsdl1.2debian (and also libsdl1.2-dev)
[02:28] <ron999> ic56 but if i try to unmount it says only root can do it
[02:28] <minerale> I just installed xchat gnome from the add/remove window, but upon selecting a transparent background it crashed on me and it refuses to start... where do I clear the settings for xchat-gnome ?
[02:29] <Daver2u> ok so I have a 686 processor but ubuntu wants to update the 386 kernel I have installed the 686 kernel is updating the 386 kernel necessary?
[02:29] <ic56> ron999: are you done explaining?
[02:29] <eric__> Sanne: That's good or that's bad or that's neutral?
[02:29] <ron999> ic56, yes i've got it off my chest, what next please
[02:29] <roostishaw> anyone in here got scatterchat to work?
[02:29] <Sanne> eric__: if the install is finished, we look what you have. I don't know if it's bad, let's say it's neutral for now ;)
[02:30] <profoX`> Daver2u: not necessary
[02:30] <Flannel> Daver2u: not really.  you only use one.  If you uninstall the meta package for 386, it'll stop asking to upgrade.  You could uninstall the 386 kernel itself, while youre at it
[02:30] <profoX`> Daver2u: if you use the 686 kernel you can delete the 386 kernel
[02:30] <eric__> Sanne:  Is this what they call 'dependency hell' or is that something else?
[02:30] <oga_> i'm having a problem with my make file i keep getting an error like this *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:30] <Daver2u> ok
[02:30] <Sanne> eric__: it's not really "hell" yet. These are just normal dependencies.
[02:30] <raskolnikov> does anyone know how to add more swap memory after installation?
[02:30] <profoX`> eric__: don't even go there :) try out mandriva before you talk about dependancy hell ;)
[02:31] <ic56> ron999: all that GUI stuff is pretty but explaining what to do on a GUI takes a lot more typing than telling you the command to use in Terminal.  That's why people use the command line.
[02:31] <ron999> ic56 ok
[02:31] <Daver2u> just curious besides installing the 686 kernel is there anything else require to make that the kernel thats uh workin?
[02:31] <profoX`> Raskall: 1. enlarge swap partition 2. create new swap partition and use swapon to use it as extra swap 3. create a swap file
[02:31] <profoX`> raskolnikov: ^
[02:31] <ic56> ron999: which means, I really don't care what your GUI is saying (nice that you told me, but pretty much a waste of time)
[02:31] <Sanne> eric__: hell would be that you need to install a lib, but you would also need to compile this lib yourself, that in turn needs another lib you have to compile... and at the end the tenth lib needs the first you wanted to install to begin with. That's hell ;)
[02:31] <Ogud> you guys have any tip on geting the macbook mouse to work in linux ? I don't have one (yet) but when/if. will it be a problem (the one vs two button thingie-stuff)
[02:32] <ic56> ron999: now, get yourself an ordinary commandline and type this one command: mount
[02:32] <ron999> ic56 ok, i just thought it looked as though we were progressing, please carry on
[02:32] <raskolnikov> prophet_, i've only been using linux for a couple weeks
[02:32] <raskolnikov> i have no idea what you just said
[02:32] <raskolnikov> is there a help file?
[02:32] <Flannel> Daver2u: you need to select it when you boot, at the grub menu.  Ubuntu automatically adds new kernels as the default menu selection though.
[02:32] <eric__> Sanne: I'm doing this for fun, mind you.  Running ./configure. :)
[02:32] <prophet_> me 2
[02:32] <ron999> ic56 ok, ill type mount at monitor
[02:32] <profoX`> Sanne: one of my first distro's was mandrake.. before it was mandriva.. that was dependancy hell at the highest level, i swear. :P
[02:32] <raskolnikov> does anyone know how to change the settings so i wont have to give a password everytime i close my laptop lid?
[02:33] <patofoo> Hi
[02:33] <inukotsu> i tried that command, it said "command not found
[02:33] <Sanne> eric__: yeah, fun is good, keeps you motivated ;)
[02:33] <patofoo> can u help me?
[02:33] <rayston> anybody want to help me with fstab? my secondary drive is getting mounted as noexec, but I cant find noexec in the fstab, here is a pastebin of the pertinent info, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18736  can anyone help me?
[02:33] <ic56> ron999: it should give you about 10 lines of output.  Getting no output from this command is not possible on a running system
[02:33] <profoX`> raskolnikov: can't you change that in power settings or something like that?
[02:33] <Sanne> profoX`: I started with Debain and got one of the finest package manager right from the start. I'm spoiled ;)
[02:33] <ron999> ic56, not monitor, terminal,,,, i typed mount and the reply is mount
[02:33] <Sanne> Debian even
[02:33] <raskolnikov> no profoX`
[02:33] <eric__> Sanne: I'll be satisfied when I can watch Homestarrunner.com on my ubuntu box.
[02:33] <Double_D> !slave
[02:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about slave - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:33] <raskolnikov> i'm on breezy
[02:33] <Daver2u> Man nothing is installable tonight are the servers still down
[02:33] <raskolnikov> i did it a while ago
[02:33] <patofoo> I like to install a Ubuntu server to make backup of all system, windows xp, etc...
[02:33] <Double_D> !mount
[02:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:33] <raskolnikov> but my laptop got fried and i need to do it over
[02:33] <gemidjy> LjL: that didn't solve the issue I got
[02:34] <profoX`> Sanne: hehe, debian was my 3rd ;) after a few days of redhat and mandrake.. i Loved debian..
[02:34] <raskolnikov> i know it has something to do in the /etc/acpi/ directory
[02:34] <patofoo> what is the best software to do this?
[02:34] <raskolnikov> you edit a file but i dont know what
[02:34] <Sanne> profoX`: :)
[02:34] <gemidjy> LjL: however, can I use apt-get with repos from cd without adding public-key
[02:34] <ic56> ron999: you typed the command "mount" and the system spit out a single line of output containing the single word "mount"?  Really?  Maybe someone's compromised your system.  Let's see if we can bypass them.  Try: /bin/mount
[02:35] <Zambezi> Can anyone explain why this repos http://einsteinmg.dyndns.org/debian/unstable/ dosent works in Dapperserver, but in Xubuntu and Breezyserver?
[02:35] <prophet_> never mind i figured it out just type the app name in termnial
[02:36] <Flannel> Zambezi: what?
[02:36] <Daver2u> im starting over
[02:36] <Daver2u> reinstalling ubuntu again
[02:36] <ron999> ic56 i've got too many windows open, pasting to wrong place wait please...
[02:36] <Daver2u> none of the packages are available
[02:36] <Sanne> eric__: heh, nice site (though I don't really like flash only sites, but for some artfully purposes I may make exceptions:)
[02:36] <Flannel> Daver2u: us and ca were down yesterday.  try changing your mirror
[02:37] <Zambezi> Flannel, I have big problems now and I'm losing my temper soon. :-/
[02:37] <Daver2u> how do you do that?
[02:37] <Zambezi> Flannel, My I PM?
[02:37] <eric__> Sanne: One of the most original things on the Internet, in my humble opinion.  Anyway, ./configure seems to work.  I think we have a winner.
[02:37] <Daver2u> nvm I will redo the sources.lists
[02:37] <ron999> ic56 you're correct, approx 10 lines of text
[02:37] <Sanne> eric__: wohoo!
[02:38] <Flannel> Daver2u: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all the us prefixes to archive (http://archive.ubuntu.com, from http://us.ubuntu.com, etc)
[02:38] <Flannel> Zambezi: sure
[02:38] <gemidjy> !apt-cdrom
[02:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-cdrom - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:38] <Daver2u> ok
[02:38] <ic56> ron999: That's more like it.  So, is the floppy listed in those 10 lines?
[02:38] <gemidjy> how can I add repo from DVD ?
[02:39] <eric__> Sanne: It's 'making' as we speak.  It's a G3/233, so it could take a while.
[02:39] <Flannel> Zambezi: if you've been PMing me, I haven't gotten them, you need to be registed and identified for queries
[02:39] <Sanne> eric__: you're right, this site is fun
[02:39] <gemidjy> how can I add repo from DVD ?
[02:39] <guy> is there a cute rock chick that wanna chat with a 20 year old male?? type 444
[02:39] <ron999> ic56 this is the last line /dev/fd0 on /media/floppy0 type vfat (rw).......is that ok
[02:39] <Sanne> eric__: ok
[02:40] <Flannel> gemidjy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu "Managing Local Repositories"
[02:40] <digichrome> hi all. I'm trying to use Ubuntu from a "live" CD but my dell monitor says it cannot display the default mode. Anything I can do about it?
[02:41] <oga> sorry if this message has gone out a few times but i've been capped. i'm having a problem with make with an error like make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:41] <ic56> ron999: good. This confirms that the floppy drive (/dev/fd0) is mounted (on directory /media/floppy) and that it is of type vfat (Virtual FAT -- ie FAT32 or FAT16 etc) and that is mounted read-write (rw) as opposed to read-only (which would have been "ro")
[02:41] <Zambezi> Flannel, I should be identify.
[02:41] <gemidjy> Flannel: I dont use Synaptic
[02:41] <oga>  make: *** [modules]  Error 2
[02:41] <Flannel> gemidjy: that doesn't matter.  are you on breezy or dapper?
[02:42] <Zambezi> Flannel, Restart.
[02:42] <ron999> ic56 ok
[02:42] <profoX`> oga: install kernel-headers maybe
[02:42] <oga> profox k thanks
[02:42] <ic56> ron999: Now, get some exercise with the grep command.  Use: mount |grep floppy
[02:42] <eric__> Sanne: Looks like we got a load of errors.
[02:42] <profoX`> oga: search synaptic for kernel-headers and pick your version
[02:42] <ic56> ron999: you see how that works now?
[02:42] <Sanne> eric__: while running make?
[02:42] <eric__> Sanne: yes.
[02:42] <eric__> Sanne: Dozems.
[02:43] <eric__> Sanne: for starters, it wants jpeglib.h (No such file or directory)
[02:43] <gemidjy_> Flannel: I dont use Synaptic and I asked about DVD
[02:43] <minerale> I keep killing X by accidentally pressing SHIFT - BACKSPACE, is there a way to change that shortcut ?
[02:43] <ron999> ic56 answer is /dev/fd0 on /media/floppy0 type vfat (rw)
[02:43] <Zambezi> Dammit. I spoke to someone, but forgot the name after my reboot.
[02:43] <Sanne> eric__: this is usually not so easy to fix. Can you paste those to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[02:43] <ironuckles> hello all
[02:43] <eric__> I think so.
[02:43] <Flannel> gemidjy_: are you on breezy or dapper?  doesn'tmatter that you don't use synaptic
[02:44] <lufis> Is it just me or are the repos not working?
[02:44] <gemidjy_> Flannel: dapper
[02:44] <Sanne> eric__: oh, it wants a file. So configure didn't catch that. Let's just search for the providing package again.
[02:44] <ic56> ron999: do you undertand now how to use the grep command to select specific information from a pile of too much output?
[02:44] <Flannel> gemidjy_: You don't need to go into synaptic anyway.  Under... administration, or whatever the system menu thing is, there's a "Software Properties" or something, right above the Synaptic one.
[02:45] <lufis> ARE THE REPOS WORKING?
[02:45] <ironuckles> Can anyone help get me started on setting up a monitor as a second screen on my laptop running Ubuntu?
[02:45] <profoX`> lufis: yes
[02:45] <cappicard> good evening. are there DVD ISOs for ubuntu (instead of burning 4 CDs)?
[02:45] <Sanne> eric__: libjpeg62-dev
[02:45] <eric__> Sanne: Installing libjpeg62-dev.
[02:45] <gemidjy_> Flannel: I need to add them via Shell
[02:45] <lufis> profoX`: Synaptic is saying it can't connect, wtf
[02:45] <eric__> Sanne: Right.
[02:45] <Sanne> eric__: heh
[02:45] <profoX`> lufis: well i'm not sure, i use the nl. mirrors
[02:45] <gemidjy_> Flannel: I mean, add the dvd repo
[02:45] <Wiseguy> cappicard, its only 1 cd...
[02:45] <Flannel> gemidjy_: alright, then you edit the sources.list, it's the same line: deb cdrom:[name of CD]  dapper main restricted
[02:45] <ron999> ic56 i think i understand now, like a string search, it was the  | symbol that threw me,lol
[02:46] <gemidjy_> Flannel: I want to add dvd
[02:46] <gemidjy_> Arghhhhhhhh
[02:46] <eric__> Sanne: ubuntu rocks - but I can't picture my grandma doing this.
[02:46] <Flannel> gemidjy_: right, what's the problem?
[02:46] <profoX`> tried the original repos.. works
[02:46] <Sanne> eric__: since you already ran make, I don't know if you need to "make clean" to delete already compiled stuff.
[02:46] <gemidjy_> Flannel: it doesn't matter ?
[02:46] <eric__> Sanne: I'll do that.
[02:46] <Flannel> gemidjy_: a DVD is still read through the cdrom drive, yeah.
[02:46] <cappicard> Wiseguy, ah ok.
[02:46] <gemidjy_> Flannel: no, via dvd drive
[02:46] <profoX`> eric__: you don't hve to compile most stuff.. what do you want?
[02:46] <ic56> ron999: exactly. the | symbol (aka pipe symbol) is used to "pipe" the output of one command into the input of another command
[02:46] <ic56> ron999: ok. let's move on
[02:46] <Flannel> gemidjy_: it's still the same.
[02:47] <prophet_> firefox crashes randomly sometimes its kinda annoying any suggestoins?
[02:47] <Sanne> eric__: or grandpa (why is it *always* we women who are synonyms for "challenged user"?)
[02:47] <eric__> profoX': Just whinin'.
[02:47] <gemidjy_> Flannel:   Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[02:47] <Wiseguy> FC5 is 4 cd's, and i find it very similiar, maybe a mix up..
[02:47] <cappicard> my dapper-to-edgy upgrade failed pretty badly.
[02:47] <eric__> Sanne: True.  My mother is a programmer.  My father gets challenged with computers.
[02:47] <raskolnikov> what do i change so i wont be asked for a password when i close my laptop lid?
[02:48] <raskolnikov> i know its something in the /etc/acpi directory but i'm not sure what
[02:48] <Sanne> eric__: I always read things like: my mother, housewifes distro, my sister, my girlfriend. That really sucks a bit, being female myself.
[02:48] <Sanne> eric__: kudos to your mem! :)
[02:48] <Sanne> mom
[02:48] <ironuckles> Can someone tell me how to use Xinerama to set up a monitor as a second screen with my laptop?
[02:48] <spades> raskolnikov check in /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[02:48] <raskolnikov> what do i change is what i need to know
[02:48] <ic56> ron999: your floppy is mounted and we have confirmed that.  You should be able to copy files to and from it by copying files to and from /media/floppy0 .  Also, we created a symlink -- /media/floppy . This acts as an alias for /media/floppy0 . It's just a convenience.  Saves you typing the 0.
[02:48] <eric__> Sanne: Make is spewing out a bunch of something or other.
[02:48] <raskolnikov> so it wont ask me for a password when i close it
[02:49] <eric__> Sanne: I think it's supposed to be doing that.
[02:49] <lunatic> I cannot get nvidia drivers to work
[02:49] <lunatic> I followed the ubuntu guide design
[02:49] <Sanne> eric__: oh yes, it is so nice and tells you what it's up to, hehe
[02:49] <ron999> ic56, ok shall i try it
[02:49] <raskolnikov> does anyone know?
[02:49] <Flannel> gemidjy_: apt-cdrom just adds to your sources.list, edit it by hand.  then use apt-get to use it, as per normal.
[02:49] <spades> raskolnikov i think commenting out hte first to lines that call something with acpi should disable the close lid stuff, so your laptop monitor will be on all the time
[02:49] <Sanne> eric__: as long as you don't see the word "error", it should be ok.
[02:50] <eric__> Sanne: How's this for masochism?  I'm about to order a barebones PC kit onto which I plan to install ubuntu/kubuntu.
[02:50] <raskolnikov> but i dont want it to be on all the time
[02:50] <gemidjy_> Flannel: no it doesn't, it searches in my CD drive and it can't find Repositories there, it doesn't even check the DVD drive
[02:50] <ic56> ron999: let me know how it goes -- then we'll fix your fstab so you don't have do the mounting as root.
[02:50] <raskolnikov> i want it to not ask me for a password after i open it again
[02:50] <lunatic> How do i get the nvidia glx dirvers to actually work?
[02:50] <Sanne> eric__: good for you!
[02:50] <eric__> Sanne: I should be troubleshooting that 'til I'm 90.
[02:50] <XiXaQ> What does Windows Virtual FAT mean? Can't I write Fat32 partitions?
[02:50] <Sanne> eric__:  what is a barebones pc kit?
[02:50] <bruenig> !nvidia
[02:50] <ron999> ic56 talk me through it, what first
[02:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:50] <ic56> ron999: copying went ok?
[02:50] <lunatic> thanks
[02:50] <eric__> Sanne: www.tigerdirect.com.  For about $500 you can build your own PC from scratch.
[02:51] <rayston> anybody want to help me with fstab? my secondary drive is getting mounted as noexec, but I cant find noexec in the fstab, here is a pastebin of the pertinent info, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18736  can anyone help me?
[02:51] <eric__> Sanne: Hope I don't get booted for that.  I'm not endorsing.
[02:51] <spades> raskolnikov see if the screensaver settings or something has a lock screen after X and set it way high, thats all i can think of
[02:51] <ron999> ic56, no , what do i do first
[02:51] <raskolnikov> i'm on breezy
[02:51] <matti_> anyone who can tell me if a hp 2600 printer is worth the money if used with linux ? /Im aware of the propertary wire protocol
[02:51] <Sanne> eric__: heh, I actually just built my first system from scratch. Got it assembled yesterday.
[02:51] <eric__> Sanne: good for you - where did you get the parts?
[02:52] <Sanne> eric__: from stores in Germany... I don't suppose that would be interesting to you?
[02:52] <ironuckles> Can someone tell me how to use Xinerama to set up a monitor as a second screen with my laptop?
[02:52] <eric__> Sanne: In concept, perhaps - but the duties would probably kill me.
[02:52] <ron999> ic56 tried to save a document there but dont have permission
[02:52] <eric__> Sanne: Make is still running.  Maybe a good sign?
[02:52] <ic56> ron999: you can either use Nautilus to drag and drop or you can use command lines.
[02:53] <ic56> ron999: hmmm, no permission eh?
[02:53] <Sanne> eric__: if it doesn't explode, it's fine (joke!)
[02:53] <ron999> ic56, cant drag and drop either
[02:53] <ic56> ron999: let me check something
[02:53] <ron999> ic56 ok
[02:53] <oga_> sorry if this message has gone out a few times but i've been capped. i'm having a problem with make with an error like make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:53] <oga_> i'ts not the headers
[02:54] <matti_> oga_: wheres ur source ?
[02:54] <Sanne> eric__: if you're interested in my system parts, look here, first post (it's German, but the parts are the underlined links): http://www.silenthardware.de/forum/index.php?showtopic=20558&st=0
[02:54] <oga_> on my Desktop in a dir
[02:54] <Ronz> are ubuntu servers back up?
[02:54] <matti_> oga_: and where did u get it from?
[02:55] <raskolnikov> what do i change so i wont be asked for a password when i close my laptop lid?
[02:55] <eric__> Ronz: Yep!
[02:55] <Ronz>  /woot
[02:55] <Ronz> now i can update...yay!
[02:55] <oga_> sourceforge
[02:55] <Nuked> GDM=DEATH
[02:55] <oga_> i'm trying to update my wireless driver
[02:55] <Nuked> aghhh!
[02:55] <matti_> wow my girlfriend is speaking in finish while asleep :D
[02:55] <Ronz> ok...now that everything is up and running...whats the name of the package that lets me burn MP3's with k3b?
[02:55] <protocol2> how can I back track a change that I made to /etc/gdm/gdm.conf?
[02:55] <rayston> anybody want to help me with fstab? my secondary drive is getting mounted as noexec, but I cant find noexec in the fstab, here is a pastebin of the pertinent info, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18736  can anyone help me?
[02:55] <eric__> Sanne: My main hesitation is that it's a Celeron D 340.  Upgradable, but perhaps not speedy enough for high-end linux?
[02:55] <Ronz> protocol2: did you make a backup?
[02:56] <matti_> oga_: what brand ?
[02:56] <oga_> matti_ hot
[02:56] <protocol2> Ronz I believe so
[02:56] <protocol2> how do I go about getting it
[02:56] <HLM> what's up with Ubuntu Updates? Are the servers still down?
[02:56] <tuliomgui> does anyone know how do i put the tray bar in the bottom panel??
[02:56] <interfear> Do I install mplayer 686 or 386? i have an amd athlon 4400x2, but 32bit ubuntu installed, im guessing 686 since my kernel is 686?
[02:56] <matti_> oga_: or what driver...
[02:56] <Sanne> eric__: what is a celeron? I don't have a celeron...
[02:56] <Ronz> protocol2: wherever you coppied your backup to, just recopy it
[02:56] <AngryParsley> Sanne: it's a budget pentium
[02:56] <oga_> ipw2200-1.0.4.tgz
[02:56] <AngryParsley> less cache, slower frequency and FSB
[02:56] <Sanne> eric__: oh, you mean your system?
[02:56] <Ronz> cp /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.backup /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:57] <Ronz> or whatever your backup file was
[02:57] <Sanne> AngryParsley: thanks
[02:57] <AngryParsley> no problem
[02:57] <Nuked> ronz know anything about gdm (errors)
[02:57] <Nuked> ?
[02:57] <Ronz> depends on the error Nuked
[02:57] <matti_> oga_: hmm, not familiar with that..but the message tells me that directory does not exist
[02:57] <matti_> oga_:and the directory is the kernel source
[02:58] <Nuked> Ronz An error occurred while loading user interface element local_background_image_chooserbutton from file /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade.  Possibly the glade interface description was corrupted.  gdm cannot continue and will exit now.  You should check your installation of gdm or reinstall gdm.
[02:58] <eric__> Sanne: The one I'm building, yes.
[02:58] <Flannel> gemidjy: you'll need to do whatever path it takes to get to your DVDrom drive then.
[02:58] <Nuked> i removed gdm, purged any configs it may have left behing
[02:58] <Sanne> eric__: I went for Athlon 64 dual core, but I suspect we're getting a bit offtopic...
[02:58] <matti_> oga_: I guess that buil should point to /usr/src/linux-version-of-yours
[02:58] <eric__> Sanne: It's an Intel microprocessor - low budget.  Mostly found in eMachines and the like.
[02:58] <eric__> Sanne: Right . Sorry.
[02:58] <Ronz> did you reinstall it Nuked?
[02:58] <Nuked> and reinstalled and I ger the same error
[02:58] <nicolas25214521> hi
[02:58] <tuliomgui> does anyone know how do i put the tray bar in the bottom panel??
[02:59] <jrib> tuliomgui: right click > add to panel > notification area
[02:59] <goatmale> right click
[02:59] <eric__> Sanne: While Make is making -- I notice that ubuntu has forums in many different languages.
[02:59] <oga_> matti_
[02:59] <oga_> i'm not 100% on linux but sounds right
[02:59] <Sanne> eric__: oh yes, several. A German one too :)
[02:59] <oga_> now i just have to figure out how to fix it
[02:59] <Nuked> eric__ lots of languages
[02:59] <matti_> oga_: it is...
[02:59] <eric__> Sanne: Wouldn't it be nifty if the search engines could somehow translate all of those on the fly - then you can tap into everybody's experiences.
[02:59] <ron999> ic56 what next?
[03:00] <Ronz> i forget what the file is, Nuked. for gentoo, it was /etc/rc.conf if im not mistaking
[03:00] <tuliomgui> jrib,  thanks a lot man!!
[03:00] <tuliomgui> =D
[03:00] <Ronz> make sure gdm is starting up
[03:00] <matti_> oga_: u didnt compile ur kernel on your own i guess ?
[03:00] <inukotsu> Is there a way to tell linux to reset all Configuration data and rescan the hardware?
[03:00] <protocol2> Ronz, in my gdm.conf file for the servers section I used to have a aixgl instead of xgl
[03:00] <jrib> tuliomgui: np :)
[03:00] <lufis> Are the main repos working?
[03:01] <Nuked> gdm is running, but I cant change themes or anything configuration related ronz
[03:01] <RadiantFire> us repos are working again :-)
[03:01] <tuliomgui> jrib, are you good with video cards??
[03:01] <nicolas25214521> hi, my name is nicolas and i'm from mexico... i whant to know if linux (ubuntu) can be desfragmented like windows
[03:01] <protocol2> how do I go about changing it back?
[03:01] <interfear> are the w32codecs available as a package?
[03:01] <Flannel> lufis: ca mirror is down.  change your mirror, and you'll be fine
[03:01] <Sanne> eric__: oh yes, that would be nice. I often thought that the German Ubuntu wiki is very good, but, well, the official one is also awesome. We could always translate and contribute, though.
[03:01] <jrib> tuliomgui: I don't about "good", but just address the channel with your question and if I can help, I will try
[03:01] <Flannel> nicolas25214521: linux doesn't need to be defragmented
[03:01] <lufis> Flannel: How would I go about doing that? Heh, I've been using the Canada mirror this whole time?
[03:01] <matti_> oga_: probably u need one of them kernel packages (wich I never use, so I wouldnt know wich one u need) and then  probably u would be able to compile your driverm alternative u could compile your own kernel, and that way you would know whats missing and not...
[03:01] <eric__> Sanne: Perhaps, but my German is far worse than my Linux.
[03:02] <Nuked> nicolas25214521,  you can do it if you have ext2
[03:02] <lens> hey could someone give me an example of copying a directory using cp in bash...
[03:02] <Nuked> !es
[03:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:02] <tuliomgui> im trying to get 75Hz refresh rate available in the configurations
[03:02] <nicolas25214521> ok thanks
[03:02] <Sanne> nicolas25214521: you don't need to. It's a file system with a different design, defrag isn't needed.
[03:02] <XiXaQ> recommend me a good partition manager for add,remove, and format partitions?
[03:02] <lufis> XiXaQ: Gparted?
[03:02] <Nuked> gparted or partition magic
[03:03] <Flannel> lufis: er, us mirror was down yesterday, someone said it was back up.  Anyway, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change your mirror url (for instance, the line says deb http://ca.ubuntu.com dapper main restricted, change it to deb http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper etc etc)
[03:03] <gnomefreak> lens: to move filea from desktop to home you would cp ~/Desktop/filea ~/filea
[03:03] <Sanne> eric__: hehe, I didn't mean necessarily you to translate, but, well, me :)
[03:03] <gnomefreak> lens: ~/ being home
[03:03] <lufis> Flannel: Ok great. I can't believe I've been using the canada one :P
[03:03] <lens> gnomefreak, is moving a dir different... it keeps saying omitting dir MYCHILD (the dir I want to move)
[03:03] <Nuked> gnomefreak: An error occurred while loading user interface element local_background_image_chooserbutton from file /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade.  Possibly the glade interface description was corrupted.  gdm cannot continue and will exit now.  You should check your installation of gdm or reinstall gdm. I did and get the same error
[03:03] <lprofil> good evening
[03:03] <lens> not move cp
[03:03] <nicolas25214521> and i have one more problem. i cant write audio CD.
[03:03] <XiXaQ> partition magic is a proprietary and commersial application, isn't it?
[03:04] <Nuked> yes it is but it works
[03:04] <Sanne> eric__: how long are you into Linux?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> lens: cp is copy
[03:04] <gnomefreak> mv = move or rename
[03:04] <roostishaw> anyone, when i do i ./configure when im compiling from soucre, i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18739  how do I fix it?
[03:04] <Flannel> XiXaQ: Gparted is good, and already installed (on dapper anyway)
[03:04] <lens> gnomefreak, why would it say omitting dir when I try to copy it... sorry I meant to copy it to another location.
[03:04] <lens> not move
[03:04] <gnomefreak> lens: coping a file from one place to another should work can you give me the command you are using?
[03:05] <lens> gnomefreak... gratefully, hold on.
[03:05] <Nuked> roostishaw,  you are missing gtk
[03:05] <matti_> is there anyone using any of these printers in linux: hp2600, canon lasershot5000, samsung CLP-510N; and can tell me if they r ok or not ?
[03:05] <Nuked> ?
[03:05] <XiXaQ> Flannel, where?
[03:05] <Flannel> roostishaw: you'll need to download the GTK headers, search for GTK and dev
[03:05] <Nuked> roostishaw,  apt-get build-dep gaim and try again
[03:05] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: what are you compiling?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> oh gaim :(
[03:05] <eric__> Sanne: Maybe a month.
[03:05] <lens> Gnomefreak:  something like this...  cp ~/.wine/drive_c/"my pack"/MYCHILD ~/.wine/drive_c/
[03:05] <Flannel> XiXaQ: System > Administration > Gnome Partition something or other
[03:05] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, scatterchat
[03:05] <trev__> i need to set up text to speech in a application, which file in festivial do I link it to (its ut2004)
[03:06] <gnomefreak> lens: you dont have a drive C: do you?
[03:06] <eric__> Sanne: I started with Virtual PC on the Mac here.  I'm able to get the LiveCD to work that way.
[03:06] <Nuked> roostishaw, AACK
[03:06] <RadiantFire> whoever asked the printer question, you will probably be ok with hp
[03:06] <RadiantFire> they have generally good cups support
[03:06] <_FlUiD_> hi people! just wanna ask on how can i install gnome on my kubuntu?
[03:06] <fit4lfe> my firefox keeps crashing anyone know why
[03:06] <Sanne> eric__: Wow! For that I found you a very delightful pupil! No panic, no swearing... ;)
[03:06] <inukotsu>  Is there anyway to reset the configuration data in lionux and to have it rescan the hardware?
[03:06] <roostishaw> Nuked, what do i do? sudo apt-get install gtk?
[03:06] <lens> gnomefreak" then it says ommiting MYCHILD, no this is in ~/.wine, which might be complicating matters.
[03:06] <matti_> RadiantFire :no, thats why im asking
[03:06] <gnomefreak> _FlUiD_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <eric__> Sanne: But I was afraid the installer would find a way to nuke my Mac's hard drive if I tried to install it.
[03:06] <RadiantFire> _FlUiD_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <fit4lfe> does anyone elses crash
[03:06] <gnomefreak> lens: very much so
[03:06] <eric__> Sanne: The pressure is not on.  I don't need this to work.
[03:06] <RadiantFire> matti_: check the compatiablity liisting and linuxprinting.org
[03:06] <matti_> RadiantFire :the hp is labeled as a "windoes printer"
[03:06] <jrib> !fixres > tuliomgui
[03:06] <Flannel> roostishaw: you'll need the development headers, usually they have a -dev suffix
[03:06] <gnomefreak> lens: im not familiar with wine
[03:06] <matti_> RadiantFire :I did
[03:06] <_FlUiD_> where can i get that RadiantFire??
[03:06] <eric__> Sanne: Now, if I was on the clock ...
[03:06] <Nuked> roost I assume so, but apt-cache search gtk to be sure
[03:07] <RadiantFire> matti_: and what did it say?
[03:07] <RadiantFire> _FlUiD_: from synaptic or apt-get
[03:07] <AngryParsley> has anyone here gotten the DD powerpc liveCD to boot?
[03:07] <noname_> hi all...I'm trying to install something using apt-get but it doesn't download but the internet is working can you tell me why ?
[03:07] <Nuked> roostishaw,  just get build deps for gaim anfd try again
[03:07] <roostishaw> Flannel, so search in synaptic for gkt-dev?
[03:07] <_FlUiD_> alright, thanks! i will try it.
[03:07] <AngryParsley> because I've tried everything to get it to work on my ibook
[03:07] <lens> I don't understand why it wouldn't just work like normal. gnomefreak... arghgh, I'm frustrated... thank you for you help though.
[03:07] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[03:07] <eric__> Sanne: I also assumed this is my last best hope to make this work - so I had better be nice!
[03:07] <matti_> RadiantFire :and they all seem to work, but none of them are described as "works grand", more like "lacks this, and that"
[03:07] <Sanne> eric__: yeah, I see. So don't ask me when you have to rush ;)
[03:07] <XiXaQ> Flannel, I found it in the repositories, but it wasn't installed by default.
[03:07] <Sanne> eric__: lol :)
[03:07] <Flannel> roostishaw: I doubt it has that name, search for gtk dev
[03:07] <RadiantFire> matti_: for most things you will be ok, unless you need some wierd mode
[03:07] <lufis> Kind of random, but does anyone have any good Linux blog recommendations or Linux/OSS-related "Planet" blog aggregators?
[03:07] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, but im doing it on scatterchat...
[03:07] <Zambezi> Is it possible to install rtorrent in Breezy using rtorrent repos?
[03:08] <lens> gnomefreak, guess I just have to keep trying different things. I'm used to it lately, no one really uses wine! lol
[03:08] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: they both use GTK
[03:08] <Nuked> scatterchat is gaim based
[03:08] <roostishaw> oh
[03:08] <roostishaw> i know
[03:08] <Zambezi> Is it possible to install rtorrent in Breezy using Dapper-repos?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: you can get the build depends for gaim should take care of your GTK issues
[03:08] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, E: Build-dependencies for gaim could not be satisfied.
[03:08] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: do i still need to remove kde or will gnome automatically remove it for me??
[03:08] <Sanne> eric__: but if you get me as your instructor, you would unfortunately have to learn, as I usually refuse to just give people commands they have to type. I want people to understand. But that's work.
[03:08] <Nuked> anyone know what the hell is going on with my GDM
[03:08] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: does it say why?
[03:08] <Nuked> roost
[03:09] <RadiantFire> _FlUiD_: it won't remove kde
[03:09] <roostishaw> yea?
[03:09] <matti_> RadiantFire : probably u r right, but I wonder wich one is best the samsung has binary drivers, the HP has reversengineered drivers, so neither sound good...
[03:09] <trev__> does festival do text to speech or does software have to be added to it first
[03:09] <Nuked> roostishaw,  sudo apt-get update
[03:09] <Nuked> and try again
[03:09] <ic56> ron999: are you still there?
[03:09] <matti_> RadiantFire : what is u r opinion ?
[03:09] <_FlUiD_> hmm.. how will i set my default desktop?
[03:09] <ron999> ic56 i'm here
[03:09] <roostishaw> nuked & gnomefreak, same error
[03:09] <RadiantFire> matti_: i have an hp that is listed as not fully functional, I've never had problems with it
[03:10] <roostishaw> Nuked, same error
[03:10] <RadiantFire> i can print, color, black and white, everything comes out looking nice
[03:10] <Nuked> hmmm... all repos enabled?
[03:10] <RadiantFire> I can't figure out why they say it doesn't work fully
[03:10] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: ok now thats strange
[03:10] <matti_> RadiantFire : but maybe it supports Postscript nativily, the 2600 does not...
[03:10] <roostishaw> Nuked & gnomefreak, :(
[03:10] <RadiantFire> matti_: it depends how daring you are :-)
[03:10] <ic56> ron999: ok.  we're now going to teach your system to check for msdos-formatted floppies before checking for Linux-formatted floppies.  This will eliminate the need for you to override the defaults with sudo
[03:10] <matti_> RadiantFire :can u elaborate on that ;=
[03:11] <matti_> RadiantFire :what HP do u have?
[03:11] <roostishaw> Nuked & gnomefreak, is that the only solution?
[03:11] <ron999> ic56 ok
[03:11] <RadiantFire> matti_: chances are, they will probably work for everything you need them for, unless you need some kind of specific feature
[03:11] <RadiantFire> deskjet 5470
[03:11] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: i am getting this error when i try apt-get "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[03:11] <Nuked> can you show me your apt repo list?
[03:11] <Ronz> hp ftw...i have a dv1000 that runs only ubuntu RadiantFire   =)
[03:11] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: no you can install the GTKand GTK-dev files
[03:11] <ic56> : do this: sudo gedit /etc/filesystems
[03:11] <ic56> ron999: do this: sudo gedit /etc/filesystems
[03:11] <RadiantFire> dv1000?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: im trying to make it easy on you
[03:12] <Nuked> Ronz, any Idea?
[03:12] <Ronz> widescreen laptop RadiantFire . its now the zt2000 or something like that
[03:12] <Ronz> oh, for the gdm Nuked ?
[03:12] <Nuked> yeah
[03:12] <matti_> RadiantFire :ah, thats an inkjet, and they seem to work, the once I listed are lasers, It would be a pity to buy a printer and not be able to use it...
[03:12] <RadiantFire> i have an e1405 from dell, its sweetness... except bluetooth doesn't work
[03:12] <ron999> ic56 ok
[03:12] <RadiantFire> but I have nothing bluetooth, so oh well
[03:12] <Ronz> let me see if i can find that file, Nuked
[03:12] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: i am getting this error when i try apt-get "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[03:12] <Sanne> eric__: did I scare you off now? ;)
[03:12] <ic56> ron999: this file shouldn't exist yet so it will be empty.  Am I right about this?
[03:12] <ron999> ic56 empty
[03:12] <roostishaw> Nuked & gnomefreak, sorry. accidently clossed the window... what were you saying?
[03:12] <noname_> can you tell me where ubuntu downloads files using synaptic package manager or apt-get
[03:12] <RadiantFire> _FlUiD_: I dunno, something went weird
[03:12] <matti_> RadiantFire :I dont have any special needs, but if I aquire a color printer I would expect to be albe to print in color aswell
[03:12] <eric__> Sanne: No.  Make seems to be hung ..?
[03:13] <Ronz> both noname_
[03:13] <roostishaw> Nuked & gnomefreak, what else can i try?
[03:13] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: no idea?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: can you grab sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-terminal
[03:13] <ic56> ron999: now, add 3 lines into this file.  Each line containing one word, in this order:  msdos ext2 ext3.  Then, save and exit.
[03:13] <Sanne> eric__: it canhappen to appear like this. Give it some more time.
[03:13] <Ronz> Nuked, what happens when you run sudo gdmsetup?
[03:13] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[03:13] <phenex> the servers are back?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> phenex: for the most part
[03:13] <Sanne> eric__: can you see the cpu load? If it's still hight, make is probably working.
[03:13] <phenex> great :)
[03:14] <noname_> Ronz, sorry I don't understand
[03:14] <eric__> Sanne:  What's the easiest way to see that?
[03:14] <Nuked> ronz same error
[03:14] <ron999> ic56 done it
[03:14] <ic56> ron999: let's unmount the floppy: sudo umount /dev/fd0
[03:14] <Nuked> but I may have info that will help
[03:14] <tuliomgui> !fixres
[03:14] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:14] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: got it running, but apt-get can't seem to fine ubuntu-desktop "Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop"
[03:14] <Ronz> what is the error Nuked, i x'ed out of IRC
[03:14] <Sanne> eric__: hmmm, there are some cpu monitor programs. Do you use Gnome, Kde, some other desktop?
[03:14] <matti_> RadiantFire :do u know if cups or any other printer system can print to a printer that is not supported if it is on a windows host ?, I.e. could I share the printer from a windows machine and then print to it without the proper driver from cups/or whatever ?
[03:14] <RadiantFire> weird, thats deinatlye the package
[03:14] <ron999> ic56 done umount
[03:15] <eric__> Sanne: Right now - KDE.
[03:15] <RadiantFire> matti_: i have no clue
[03:15] <matti_> ok
[03:15] <Ronz> noname_, whenever you use apt-get....it shows up in synaptic manager. whenever you use synaptic manager...you can see the package with apt. synaptic manager is just a GUI for apt, if im not mistaking
[03:15] <matti_> vmware is free so that could be an option for me....
[03:15] <Sanne> eric__: oh, I don't know the name of the kde monitor program, gimme a sec.
[03:15] <Nuked> Ronz, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18740
[03:15] <ic56> ron999: finally, let's test our new config.  Type: mount /media/floppy
[03:15] <ic56> ron999: it should work without sudo and without extra arguments
[03:15] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, no... E: Build-dependencies for gnome-terminal could not be satisfied.
[03:16] <Nuked> same thing but this is the terminal output
[03:16] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: something wrong with repos can you pelase paste them to pastebin
[03:16] <noname_> Ronz, I know this but what I want to know is where it download's it's packages ? (cause with my apt-get it doesn't download so I will download manually and put them in the folder)
[03:16] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, sure. you mean my /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: yes
[03:17] <Nuked> yes roostishaw  just like I told you before
[03:17] <ic56> ron999: assuming you got no error messages, confirm that floppy was mounted by using the "mount" command without arguments and checking its output for "floppy"
[03:17] <Ronz>  WARNING **: Glade file is on crack! Make sure the correct file is installed! ....thats funny Nuked
[03:17] <ron999> ic56 yes it burst into life and one of those gui icons has now been mounted , what now
[03:17] <interfear> what is mplayer-custom? i installed libdvdcss2, and the w32codecs, shouldnt i install mplayer-686 now?
[03:17] <Nuked> Ronz, I thought so too
[03:17] <roostishaw> Nuked, sorry. xchat didn't highlight it...
[03:17] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: got it running, but apt-get can't seem to fine ubuntu-desktop "Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop"
[03:17] <Nuked> roostishaw, no problemo
[03:17] <Sanne> eric__: I found two options quick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/kcpuload and http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/utils/ksysguard
[03:18] <interfear> anyone here know what mplayer-custom is? or anyone here have mplayer installed?
[03:18] <roostishaw> Nuked & gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18742
[03:18] <Ronz> im not sure where it installs to, noname_
[03:18] <ic56> ron999: did mount |grep floppy confirm what your ears and GUI icons suggested?
[03:18] <eric__> Sanne: Well - the mouse cursor is frozen.
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ok roostishaw ill brb hopfully with an answer
[03:18] <Sanne> eric__: hrmph
[03:18] <Sanne> eric__: then it crashed
[03:18] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, ok. take your time
[03:18] <eric__> Sanne: Spoke too soon - just really unresponsive.
[03:18] <Nuked> roostishaw,  I dont see a problem
[03:19] <ron999> ic56 grep output is /dev/fd0 on /media/floppy0 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=ron)
[03:19] <Sanne> eric__: ah, ok. But still a bad sign.
[03:19] <Nuked> you did sudo apt-get update right?
[03:19] <roostishaw> Nuked, yes.
[03:19] <roostishaw> Nuked, you mean all the nessasary repos are there?
[03:19] <eric__> Sanne: The iMac is pretty sluggish under the best of circumstances.
[03:19] <noname_> Ronz, ok thanks anyway
[03:20] <Ronz> np
[03:20] <Sanne> eric__: now it would be nice to have a proccess viewer to see which proccess uses that much cpu. But you can try to find out in a terminal with "top".
[03:20] <Ronz> damnit....lightning
[03:20] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: other than the gaim repo blocking it (but shouldnt be since you cant get g-term deps either)
[03:20] <Ronz> later yall!
[03:20] <ic56> ron999: excellent.  Now, since you mounted the drive as yourself instead of as user root, you should also own the directory and have permission to write to it.  Try dragging a file into it.
[03:20] <Nuked> ronz
[03:20] <Nuked> roostishaw, that looks clean to me.. but I may be on crack
[03:20] <Nuked> are you using gaim beta 2?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Nuked: other than unofficial repos your not on crack yet
[03:21] <ron999> ic56, ok wait
[03:21] <Sanne> eric__: after this crisis, you might want to have a look at ksysguard, this one seems to have a graphical process viewer.
[03:21] <Nuked> gnomefreak, then why could he be having this problem?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: try commenting out all un-official repos and try again
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Nuked: not sure yet
[03:22] <ron999> ic56 yes it's done it, copied 2 files from document file to floppy ok
[03:22] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: after commenting everything under skype out sudo apt-get update
[03:22] <Nuked> gnomefreak, know anything about why im getting the gdm error?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Nuked: i havent seen your issue sotrry
[03:22] <gnomefreak> what error?
[03:22] <Nuked> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18740
[03:23] <Nuked> basically im told to reinstall GDM, I did and I still get the same issue
[03:23] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, ill do that now
[03:23] <Nuked> sudo gdmsetup does nothing
[03:24] <ic56> ron999: excellent.  Now, bewarned: the files have been copied but haven't been completely written to the floppy.  Instead, they are cached in the computer's memory (RAM).  unmounting the floppy will flush the cache and put a timestamp on the floppy confirming that the filesystem was cleanly disconnected
[03:24] <gnomefreak> Nuked: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[03:24] <gnomefreak> let me know if it errors
[03:24] <Sanne> eric__: I'm sorry, I really need to go now, it's late at night here... need to get some sleep :)
[03:24] <ron999> ic56 yes i understand......
[03:24] <ic56> ron999: to unmount the floppy use: umount /media/floppy
[03:24] <eric__> Sanne: Thanks for everything.
[03:24] <blkno1> I broke my sound on Dapper, i was burning a dvd got an error now no sound, even after rebooting?  Any ideas
[03:25] <ic56> ron999: *then* you can safely remove the floppy.
[03:25] <Sanne> eric__: you're welcome, it was fun (for me, at last ;), and good luck!
[03:25] <Sanne> by all
[03:25] <gnomefreak> Nuked: after its reinstalled please restart gdm
[03:25] <ron999> ic56 i can mount , unmount  using the gui icon, and when i unmount i have been able to format
[03:26] <Ackeubu_> hey what is locateecho ?? dont now where to get it. but it seems as if i need it for e17
[03:26] <ic56> ron999: there is another way: the "sync" command.  This tells Ubuntu to flush *all* its caches to disk.  This saves you unmounting and re-mounting if all you wanted to do was make sure that your data is flushed to disk before your proceed with adding more data
[03:26] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, "E: Build-dependencies for gaim could not be satisfied." :(
[03:27] <Nuked> gnomefreak killall gdm wiill suffice?
[03:27] <ic56> ron999: I think that about does it.  Any remaining questions on this topic?
[03:27] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, i commented out, then sudo apt-get update, then did sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[03:27] <gnomefreak> Nuked: just ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:27] <Nuked> brb
[03:27] <ron999> ic56 i have my two entries for floppies, how do i get rid of the old one
[03:27] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: there is something wrong give me a sec
[03:27] <ic56> ron999: what are they named?
[03:27] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, ok
[03:27] <ron999> ic56 wait
[03:28] <Nuked> gnomefreak same problem
[03:29] <gnomefreak> Nuked: im not sure. i know there is a file missing just not sure what file you need
[03:29] <Nuked> man gnomefreak  this is just crazy
[03:29] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: not sure. someone on dapper just tried for me and he was able to
[03:30] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, and you think you're sure i got all the right repos?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Nuked: are you using gdm or kdm?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: i know you do
[03:30] <ron999> ic56 when i look in 'computer' i have my new floppy0 and an old Floppy 1
[03:30] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, :( hmm...
[03:30] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: i dont have all the repos you do and it works for me
[03:31] <Nuked> gnomefreak,  gdm
[03:31] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, oh... well... where else should i look, or where do i go from here?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> Nuked: try build-dep gdm?
[03:31] <protocol2> !xgl
[03:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:32] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: search for gtk and gtk-dev packages (cant remember if you need GTK2 or not but your error will tell you)
[03:32] <ic56> ron999: hmmm, that's an odd name "Floppy 1" with an uppercase F and a space between the "Floppy" and the "1".  Is it really called that?
[03:33] <Student> Is there a way to install ubuntu directly from the hard drive? Currently I lack a working CD-ROM drive, so I'm wondering if there is a second option.
[03:33] <Nuked> gnomefreak same error
[03:33] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, thanks! and brb...
[03:33] <eric__> Perhaps a generic academic question?  I've found that it's pretty easy to move back and forth between KDE and GNOME.  You can run KDE apps in GNOME and vice versa.  Aside from the different interfaces, is there really that much of a difference between the two?  I mean, what is kubuntu but ubuntu with a slightly different user interface?
[03:33] <ron999> ic56 yes i think so
[03:33] <Flannel> Student: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[03:33] <gnomefreak> Nuked: not really sure.
[03:34] <gnomefreak> Flannel: knows
[03:34] <gnomefreak> ;)
[03:34] <crimsun> eric__: much of the underlying 'plumbing' is fairly different.
[03:35] <Nuked> Flannel, gdm defecates everytime I try to run sudo gdmsetup
[03:35] <gnomefreak> Flannel: about gdm issues?
[03:35] <crimsun> eric__: the concept of abstraction allows you to be fooled into thinking they're not all that different :-)
[03:35] <Flannel> eric__: but, only the 'plumbing' for the graphical stuff.  the kernel stuff and other things are identical.
[03:35] <gnomefreak> Nuked: try gksudo
[03:35] <Flannel> no, gdmsetup is command line, I believe.
[03:35] <Flannel> why would I know? heh.  I'm on a terminal ;)
[03:35] <ic56> ron999: huh.  When you type "/bin/ls -l /media"  Does the right-most column of output contain such an entry?  Or is it the just the floppy and floppy0 entries (and cdrom entries)?
[03:36] <Nuked> Flannel,  gdmsetup needs to be root
[03:36] <Flannel> Nuked: right, but not gksudo, it's a terminal program.
[03:36] <Nuked> sudo then
[03:36] <Nuked> or sudo su?
[03:36] <Flannel> sudo
[03:36] <ron999> ic56 wait
[03:37] <Student> Flannel, Thank you.
[03:37] <Nuked> it still gives me the same error message Flannel
[03:37] <Flannel> Nuked: so, your glade file is on crack, eh?  interesting error message.  right,  Ijuts found your paste.  Um, have you tried reinstalling it?  remove it completely (with --purge, to kill the config files) then reinstall it?
[03:37] <Nuked> I did Flannel
[03:38] <ron999> ic56 last 4 lines end in cdrom0 cdrom0 floppy0 floppy0
[03:39] <ic56> ron999: right.  These are the entries I expected to see.  There's no "Floppy 1" there, is there?
[03:39] <Justi1> How come i can't find the sun-java5 package in the synaptic package manager
[03:39] <ron999> ic56, correct, no Floppy 1
[03:39] <Flannel> Nuked: hmm.  No idea.  You might try asking the gnome people, they'd be more familiar with the whole thing.
[03:39] <Nuked> im asking
[03:39] <LjL> Justi1: you probably don't have multiverse enabled
[03:39] <Flannel> Nuked: oddly enough, google doesn't know anything.  Is this dapper?
[03:39] <LjL> !tell Justi1 about repos
[03:40] <Nuked> yes it is Flannel
[03:40] <Justi1> how do i enable multiverse?
[03:40] <Flannel> Nuked: hmm, alright.  Let me see if I have that file in breezy.
[03:40] <LjL> Justi1: Ubotu just sent you a link that tells you how
[03:40] <gnomefreak> dont send him back to me i dont know nuffin :(
[03:40] <ic56> ron999: what about /etc/fstab?  Try this: grep F /etc/fstab  (in this case, we're telling grep to search for the capital letter "F" in the specified file, rather than searching in it's piped input
[03:41] <Justi1> ok
[03:41] <eric__> crimsun: Accepting that they're very different - with different development histories, teams - there's so much convergence on a functional level.  Am I giving up very much when I move from one to the other?
[03:41] <minerale> Ok, everything was fine until I installed the security updates. now grub does not have a listing for windows anymore ... what line must I add if my windows install is located at /dev/hda1
[03:41] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[03:41] <tsume> hehehhe
[03:41] <Nuked> crimsun, any recommendations?
[03:41] <tsume> ubuntu 6.10 Knot?
[03:41] <Flannel> Alright, Nuked, I've got that file.  It's XML, so you should be able to hand edit it easily enough.
[03:41] <jon_> Just joined minutes ago; my chat experience is almost none. Just reading for now, hope to help/get help in future. Using Xubuntu Dapper.
[03:41] <crimsun> eric__: in terms of kubuntu vs. ubuntu, they're not very different.
[03:41] <ron999> ic56 no output from grep
[03:41] <tsume> Knot, makes me think of canine mating, as in the bulbus gland on the male which creates the  "Knot" in canine reproduction
[03:42] <crimsun> eric__: no, you don't 'lose' much
[03:42] <Flannel> Nuked: I can give you mine, but it mightve changed for dapper.
[03:42] <Nuked> edit what Flannel ?
[03:42] <crimsun> Nuked: for what? I'm not following this channel atm
[03:42] <ic56> ron999: ok, so there's no F in /etc/fstab.  Hence there can be no "Floppy 1" in /etc/fstab.  One last shot: let's see if there's such a beast mounted.  Try: mount |grep F
[03:42] <Flannel> Nuked: /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade
[03:43] <Nuked> crimsun gdm gives me a sreange error message about a file missing
[03:43] <JimD> It would be really neat if ubiquity (the installer in Dapper) offered an option to just point the installer at a pre-mounted target directory (and a pre-created swap partition)
[03:43] <ron999> ic56 no output from mount |grep F
[03:43] <crimsun> Nuked: checked the file against http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[03:44] <ic56> ron999: hmmm, running out of options here. As a shot in the dark, let's try: ls -ld /mnt/*F* /tmp/*F*
[03:44] <Warbo> JimD: I think the installer could do with a lot of work. Like LVM
[03:44] <Nuked> crimsun for local_background_image_chooserbutton?
[03:44] <Flannel> Nuked: That file (gdmsetup.glade) describes all the different GDM setups, it's what you edit for themes, etc.  It just describes a bunch of things and where they are, etc.  So, looks like you have some bad data somewhere in there, just copying a good one should work.  But, do it from Dapper, not from me (breezy)
[03:44] <crimsun> Nuked: no, the file.
[03:44] <ESPOiG> my usb thumbdrive is farked, it cant be mounted as it is the wrong format "it aint really i just did sumtin ages ago but i cant mem, and now it cant be mounted, is there a way to format it in ubuntu with command line or something in fat32 cuz i cant seem to find it in gparted??
[03:45] <Warbo> What language is Ubuquity written in? I know Ubuntu likes Python, and I know a bit of that
[03:45] <Nuked> flannel should I paste the gdm thing?
[03:45] <JimD> I'd prefer that someone just poingted me at where I could do just a little work ... so I could tell it to skip all that stuff about partitioning and mounting and just let me do that from the command line.
[03:45] <Flannel> Nuked: that wouldn't be a bad idea
[03:45] <Nuked> crimsun An error occurred while loading user interface element local_background_image_chooserbutton from file /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade.  Possibly the glade interface description was corrupted.  gdm cannot continue and will exit now.  You should check your installation of gdm or reinstall gdm.
[03:45] <Bung> im trying to get my friend to upgrade to Java5 (1.5) using Synaptic ... I had him enable all his "Multiverse"s .. but he cant find anything searching sun java or sun-java5-jre etc... any thoughts?
[03:45] <ron999> ic56 ls: /mnt/*F*: No such file or directory
[03:45] <ron999> drwx------ 2 ron ron 4096 2006-07-23 19:09 /tmp/keyring-kcpCFS
[03:45] <ron999> -rw-r--r-- 1 ron ron 1196 2006-07-23 20:58 /tmp/tmp2JSEOF
[03:46] <jon_> ESPOiG, you shd be able to use cfdisk to re-format your thumbdrive.
[03:46] <crimsun> Nuked: have you tried ``sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm'' ?
[03:46] <linuxForHumans2> I have a quick driver question, is there someone that could help me?
[03:46] <Warbo> Bung: 1) Make sure the full Multiverse is enabled (SO many people only enable backports) 2) Make sure you update the package lists 3) sun-java5-bin is the package name
[03:47] <Bung> Warbo: thanks
[03:47] <Warbo> !info sun-java5-bin
[03:47] <Grok_> linuxForHumans2: no need to ask to ask...just ask it
[03:47] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[03:47] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: post your question -- if someone can help, they will :)
[03:47] <Warbo> Just making sure :)
[03:47] <linuxForHumans2> Anyone know how to get the Adaptec 1420SA device working in 6.06?
[03:47] <Nuked> crimsun yes
[03:47] <Justi1> so once i enable universe and multiverse, im going to see sun-java5 package in the package manager?
[03:47] <ic56> ron999: yeah.  None of these look anything like "Floppy".  Sorry ron999.  Nautilus is still a bit of a mystery to me.  I have no idea how it's coming up with that "Floppy 1" icon.  Try asking the channel.  Make sure you specify that the spelling isn't a typo -- it'll be the first thing people ask to confirm.
[03:47] <ic56> ron999: good luck!
[03:48] <crimsun> Nuked: are you using the default theme or a custom one?
[03:48] <noiesmo> Justi1, you'll need to apply and then update
[03:48] <raskolnikov> can someone tell me how to remove the password when i close my laptop lid?
[03:48] <Justi1> ok
[03:48] <linuxForHumans2> Anyone know how to get the Adaptec 1420SA device working in 6.06?
[03:48] <noiesmo> !repeat
[03:48] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:48] <Warbo> !patience > linuxForHumans2
[03:48] <ron999> ic56 ok, you've solved my problem, thanks for your patience.....
[03:48] <linuxForHumans2> !patience
[03:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:49] <ic56> ron999: you're welcome.
[03:49] <Grok_> linuxForHumans2: you need to be a bit more descriptive other than "it doesn't work"...error msgs, what you've done to try to get it to work, etc
[03:49] <ron999> ic56 if i have to do another clean install sometime in the future will i have to do all this again
[03:49] <linuxForHumans2> I have read that it was possible to use aacraid to detect the device, but I don't know what to do after I have modprobed for aacraid
[03:50] <Nuked> crimsun a default one now that I reinstalled it
[03:50] <Justi1> ok, now i see the sun-java5, but do i install the -bin?
[03:50] <Warbo> Justi1: That is the one to run Java programs with
[03:50] <Justi1> ok
[03:50] <Justi1> thanks
[03:50] <raskolnikov> can someone tell me how to remove the password when i close my laptop lid?
[03:50] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: what happens when you modprobe it?  is the module installed?  is it in use?
[03:51] <ic56> ron999: the /etc/filesystems file we created isn't part of the default install, so you'd have to do that again.  The other stuff was just bringing your system up to par with a standard install.  Of course, if the install fails again in teh same way, well, you'll have to either figure out how to force the installer to do the right thing or you'll have to create the floppy setup manually as you did yesterday and today
[03:51] <philth> Has anyone had similiar problems with the "Waiting for Headers" hang?
[03:51] <linuxForHumans2> how can I tell for sure.  (I do think it installs, there are no errors)
[03:51] <linuxForHumans2> it just goes to a new line
[03:52] <dfcarney> what does 'lsmod' say?  is the module listed?
[03:52] <dfcarney> how about 'dmesg'?
[03:52] <linuxForHumans2> let me check
[03:52] <Warbo> Use dmesg | tail
[03:52] <Warbo> (dmesg is LONG)
[03:52] <dfcarney> Warbo: good point
[03:53] <linuxForHumans2> lsmod shows aacraid, but it is not being used by anything, under 'used by' it shows a 0
[03:53] <Nuked> crimsun any ideas?
[03:53] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: 'dmesg' should give you a fairly descriptive summary of any module-related activity...it should be fairly obvious if your attempt worked...
[03:53] <Grok_> linuxForHumans2: just a tip...linux usually only gives you back msgs when something's wrong. if it drops to a newline like that it's *usually* a good thing
[03:53] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: ah.  in that case, aacraid isn't being used at all.
[03:53] <linuxForHumans2> last line of dmesg [17182042.712000]  Adaptec aacraid driver (1.1-4 Jul 17 2006 20:06:11)
[03:53] <ron999> ic56 yes, i hope it doesn't happen again, thanks again, maybe we'll meet up again here, bye
[03:54] <Ackeubu_> Hey im trying to install e17 i found a script. running the script errors with this: easy_e17.sh: line 741: locateecho: command not found. Anyone knows locateecho>>??
[03:54] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: have you tried building your own driver and installing it?  i did a quick check and adaptec has source code available (i386)
[03:54] <ketetha_> argh ih ave a big problem i think it sbig
[03:54] <ic56> ron999: you're welcome.  If you have to do it again, at least you learned a bit and next time will be easier.
[03:54] <linuxForHumans2> I was havinf trouble with that
[03:55] <Student> Be aware that "Breezy Badger" requires about 1.8 Gb to install and operate, and any less than a 4 Gb root (/) partition with a 256 Mb swap partition can make the install process stop abruptly.-----What does that mean exactly?
[03:55] <ketetha_> i cant get into my accoutn because it keeps liek setting me back. and all i did was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx
[03:55] <linuxForHumans2> that's why I came here to see if someone may be able to help me with that
[03:55] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: There is an Ubuntu repository for E17 somewhere...
[03:55] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: trouble as in you're not sure what you're doing, or actual compilation/installation problems?
[03:55] <linuxForHumans2> the instructions were a bit confusing
[03:55] <Nuked> Warbo, Id avoid those repos like the plague
[03:56] <crimsun> Nuked: I don't use gdm, so I don't know offhand, nor do I have ready access atm.
[03:56] <Warbo> Nuked: Well, I prefer repos to install scripts
[03:56] <Nuked> true
[03:56] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: yeah, that kind of thing takes a bit of practice to get used to...
[03:56] <Nuked> crimsun would there be any issues if I decided to use kdm?
[03:56] <noiesmo> linuxForHumans2, just reading this doesnt look good for 1420sa
[03:56] <linuxForHumans2> is it possible for you to help me walk through it?
[03:56] <noiesmo> linuxForHumans2, http://www.brentnorris.net/blog/?p=158
[03:57] <Bung> Warbo: when you say full multiverse, you mean enable PLF ?
[03:57] <Ackeubu_> Warbo ill just comment away locateecho and hope it doesnt do anything...
[03:57] <Nuked> Ackeubu_, id do it by hand
[03:57] <crimsun> Nuked: I don't believe so
[03:57] <Warbo> Bung: No, just the main Ubuntu multiverse repository. There are a couple of lines containing "multiverse" and many people end up enabling backports but not the real Ubuntu multiverse
[03:58] <Ackeubu_> Nuked, thanks, im to noob to do that.. >( i already f4cked up my system so bad, i cant even use gnome. im hoping to be able to use e17 at least after this.....:o
[03:58] <Student> Be aware that "Breezy Badger" requires about 1.8 Gb to install and operate, and any less than a 4 Gb root (/) partition with a 256 Mb swap partition can make the install process stop abruptly.-----What does that mean exactly?
[03:58] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: Maybe you screwed your system by commenting out lines in install scripts? :)
[03:59] <Bung> Warbo: in the Software Preferences in Synaptic, under the Installation tab, in the channels list, I had him select ALL multiverses for each channel listed ...
[03:59] <Ackeubu_> Warbo: hahaha
[03:59] <protocol1> whats the path for xorg.conff?
[03:59] <protocol1> whats the path for xorg.conf?
[03:59] <noiesmo> /etc/X11
[03:59] <Warbo> protocol1: /etc/X11
[03:59] <Bung> Warbo: via Edit->Multiverse checkbox
[03:59] <btrento> could someone help me with some ndiswrapper problems
[03:59] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, I just need the driver so I can view partitions on the drives already.
[03:59] <rmjb> Hi, I have dapper installed on hda but windows is on mapper_nvidia_cfecdcbc, how do I put an entry into grub for windows?
[03:59] <Ackeubu_> fr34kn linux gives me grey hair waaay to early
[03:59] <Warbo> Bung: Hmm. Is an obscure mirror being used? If so try a more mainstream one
[03:59] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: gimme a sec...i'm downloading the source code now...
[03:59] <murph2481> i added a second internal hard drive, i can see it in windows but it doesn't get mounted automatically in ubuntu??? how do i fix that?
[04:00] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, thank you so much
[04:00] <Warbo> !mount
[04:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:00] <Bung> Warbo: Im not sure which he is using, but Ill see what i can find in the docs for mirrors, thanks
[04:01] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: ugh.  their source code is packaged in an .rpm
[04:01] <Student> What does this mean exactly-->"Be aware that "Breezy Badger" requires about 1.8 Gb to install and operate, and any less than a 4 Gb root (/) partition with a 256 Mb swap partition can make the install process stop abruptly."
[04:01] <Ackeubu_> Warbo, but it has to be possilble to comment out obscure coomands such as locateecho. commands that are not even googleable......
[04:01] <roostishaw> gnomefreak or Nuked, any ideas?
[04:01] <rmjb> !repeat
[04:01] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:01] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: what part of the instructions don't you understand?
[04:01] <rmjb> Hi, I have dapper installed on hda but windows is on mapper_nvidia_cfecdcbc, how do I put an entry into grub for windows?
[04:02] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: Read through the script and see what it is trying to do, then do it yourself manually. A) You'll learn and B) You shouldn't screw anything up
[04:03] <ron991> ic56 I'm back
[04:03] <Ackeubu_> Warbo:  will do unless it goes through now..
[04:03] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: did you partition the drives in Windows?  do you have multiple disks (in a RAID), or just one?
[04:04] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, they are not raided, but one has windows on it and the other is ntfs formatted
[04:04] <boga> what command can I use to know what kernel I am running? I don't want to reboot!
[04:04] <Warbo> uname -r
[04:04] <boga> thanx
[04:05] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, for this I am creating a new driver, and I install the rpm using alien -i, then I cd to the proper directory
[04:05] <roostishaw> anyone know why sudo apt-get build-dep gaim would give me the error "E: Build-dependencies for gaim could not be satisfied."
[04:05] <Commander-Crowe> my God its hot here
[04:05] <rmjb> !repeat
[04:06] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:06] <rmjb> Hi, I have dapper installed on hda but windows is on mapper_nvidia_cfecdcbc, how do I put an entry into grub for windows?
[04:06] <boga> my CPU is an AMD Sempron 1.8ghz, and am using the 386 kernel. Is this OK or should I use the 686 one?
[04:06] <Student> What does this mean exactly??-->            "Be aware that "Breezy Badger" requires about 1.8 Gb to install and operate, and any less than a 4 Gb root (/) partition with a 256 Mb swap partition can make the install process stop abruptly."
[04:07] <ic56> hey ron991.  What's up?
[04:07] <keleus> boga, you should use the AMD one i believe. K7
[04:07] <Warbo> boga: Maybe the k7 one would be best?
[04:07] <Bung> rmjb: http://www.google.ca/search?q=ubuntu+grub+windows or http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[04:07] <boga> ohh!
[04:07] <keleus> boga, but it is safe to use 686
[04:07] <boga> keleus: will I see any noticeable difference?
[04:07] <dsl1392> my ubuntu installation freezes on the keyboard language step, but i already checked my ram and disk integrity OK
[04:07] <keleus> boga, in this order: k7, 686, 586, 386
[04:08] <philth> Okay, Whenever I run apt-get update, it hangs on waiting for headers, worked fine before.
[04:08] <keleus> boga, yea
[04:08] <btrento> could someone help me with some ndiswrapper problems
[04:08] <boga> ok
[04:08] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: i really can't get ubuntu-desktop using apt-get
[04:08] <keleus> boga, not an incredible difference but you can feel it
[04:08] <RadiantFire> thats so wierd
[04:08] <keleus> boga, compiling and CPU intense stuff will see it most
[04:08] <dsl1392> can anyone help me with install?
[04:08] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: i'm worried that you may not be able to read the partitions, as the Windows driver (with which you formatted the drives) may have written them in such a way that they won't be recognized by the Linux driver.  regardless, you may as well try...  which instruction steps do you not understand (note: i don't have a tonne of kernel-2.6 experience with drivers, but i know enough to get around)
[04:08] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, then I enter in ->  sudo ./Build ../driver-aar81xx/ ../shipped-binary/ ../../linux-headers-2.6.15-26 try_quick=Yes blist+=i686
[04:08] <linuxForHumans2> is that correct?
[04:08] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm at my wit's end.  Can someone help me fix Akregator or Blam?  Either one will be fine, I just need an RSS aggregator to not explode when I use it.
[04:08] <JimD> Student: just what part of that is confusing you?  It's saying that it needs at least 1.8GiB and they recommend 4GiB (of free disk space) and 256MiB (of swap)
[04:09] <roostishaw> anyone know why sudo apt-get build-dep gaim would give me the error "E: Build-dependencies for gaim could not be satisfied."
[04:09] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: tell on
[04:09] <Warbo> roostishaw: Do you have deb-src entries enabled?
[04:09] <LaserJock> roostishaw: because apparently it couldn't get all the build dependecies
[04:09] <dsl1392> installation freezes at the keyboard language step
[04:10] <LaserJock> Warbo: you wouldn't need deb-src for that build-dep
[04:10] <dsl1392> tried it several times
[04:10] <roostishaw> Warbo, since i dont know what those are, im guessing not... :D  how could i enable them?
[04:10] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, did u see my post?
[04:10] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: what distro are you using?
[04:10] <Student> JimD, ok so there are 2 partitions OS root and swap and root should be more than 4GB and swap more than 256, right? Is there a recommended swap size too?
[04:10] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: i386 or 64-bit?
[04:10] <dsl1392> oh 386
[04:11] <roostishaw> LaserJock, yes, thats what iv concluded. do you know how to fix it?
[04:11] <fit4lfe> having problems with firefox shutting down
[04:11] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: and whats your system specs (ram, CPU Hard drive space)
[04:11] <fit4lfe> using ubuntu-dapper 6.06
[04:11] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: yeah -- i'm just reviewing the instructions now...
[04:11] <linuxForHumans2> kewl
[04:11] <fit4lfe> anyone else have this problem
[04:11] <ron999> ic56 are you there
[04:12] <Warbo> roostishaw: In /etc/apt/sources.list make sure lines beginning with "deb-src" aren't commented
[04:12] <keleus> fit4lfe, when?
[04:12] <ic56> ron999: yes
[04:12] <LaserJock> Warbo: that wouldn't matter
[04:12] <dadgumit> looking for opinions on automatix
[04:12] <dadgumit> (hi all)
[04:12] <Warbo> LaserJock: OK, just wondering
[04:12] <keleus> dadgumit, dangerous. better not use
[04:12] <LaserJock> roostishaw: can you pastebin the actual warning?
[04:12] <dsl1392> yikes its prety sad 440mhzP3, ~110m ram, 75m boot partition, 1G swap, 4G root
[04:12] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, is it ok if we talk via pm?
[04:12] <ron999> ic56 i've rebooted and everythings gone back to how it was, do you think i forgot to save something
[04:12] <roostishaw> LaserJock, sure, one sec.
[04:13] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: you need at least 256 MB and about a 700 MHz CPU
[04:13] <roostishaw> LaserJock, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18744
[04:13] <murph2481> !mount
[04:13] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:13] <dsl1392> oops so much for that. i didnt even think to look for system reqs
[04:14] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: try xubuntu
[04:14] <btrento> ndiswrapper always try to install to eth1 instead of wlan0. Has anyone had a similar problem or know of a fix
[04:14] <JimD> Student: the widespread historical convention was to have 2.5 * RAM for swap
[04:14] <dsl1392> great thanks
[04:14] <Commander-Crowe> I got that to run on a 466 MHX CPU and 92 MB of ram
[04:14] <rmjb> are there any GUIs to configure grub?
[04:14] <ketetha_> how di fix a problem for missing close maximize and minimize buttons?
[04:15] <JimD> However, I think that's rediculous for some systems today.  (On the laptop I'm typing on that would mean devoting 5GiB to swap)
[04:15] <dsl1392> cool thats about where im at
[04:15] <ic56> ron999: hmmm, I think I know why -- you're on dapper.  At that version of Ubuntu, I think they started using a virtual /dev   If that's the case then the effect of our mknod command disappears after a reboot.  Hadn't thought of that.  Let's confirm it.  Try mount |grep devfs  Any output?
[04:15] <Commander-Crowe> rmjb: what do you want to do?
[04:15] <roostishaw> LaserJock, did you get that?
[04:15] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[04:15] <ketetha_> amyon eknow? ijust installed agilx or whatever and iahve no more close buttons
[04:15] <ketetha_> i dont know what to do
[04:15] <LaserJock> roostishaw: yes, do you have the Universe repositories enabled?
[04:15] <rmjb> Commander-Crowe: windows is on a SATA-RAID some mapper_nvidia_... and the dapper install did not detect it
[04:15] <ron999> ic56 no output
[04:16] <Commander-Crowe> lol alt+F4
[04:16] <rmjb> I want to add it to the grub menu
[04:16] <JimD> On the other hand some new Linux systems do support a feature called "swsusp" that suggests you use at least swap = RAM
[04:16] <Ronz> thats alot...
[04:16] <Commander-Crowe> rmjb: if you now what partition number its on, then try sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:16] <ic56> ron999: hmmm.  Let's try a case-insensitive search:  mount |grep -i devfs
[04:16] <ketetha_> i dont have an maxmize or close buttons does anyone know the solution?
[04:16] <SupIAmMike> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso - does that come with airsnort?
[04:17] <ron999> ic56 wait
[04:17] <Ronz> SupIAmMike, you can download it through repositories
[04:17] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: what happens when you type that ./Build command in?  i.e. what output did you get?
[04:17] <ron999> ic56 no output
[04:17] <SupIAmMike> if not, does default "sudo apt-get install airsnort" work or would i have to add a repository?
[04:17] <ketetha_> or not
[04:18] <ardchoille> How do I change a type of file so that it opens with gedit? The filename is file.theme
[04:18] <Ronz> SupIAmMike, you may have to enable universe. but that will work. i run it all the time. ;)
[04:18] <roostishaw> LaserJock, i believe so. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18745
[04:18] <Ronz> just make sure you get kismet also
[04:19] <ic56> ron999: oooook.   That blows my theory.  Let's see if the device is still there: ls -ld /dev/fd*  /dev/fd should still be there like it always was.  What about the /dev/fd0 we created?  If not that, did any other /dev/fd<something> appear?
[04:19] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: also, why are you just using the kernel headers?  i believe that you need the source tree...
[04:19] <rmjb> what's the (hdx,y) for a SATA-RAID drive in grub?
[04:19] <SupIAmMike> does ubuntu no longer had live cds?
[04:19] <ron999> ic56 take it slowly, what shall i do
[04:19] <wims> SupIAmMike,  the install cd is also a live cd
[04:20] <SupIAmMike> oh thats hot
[04:20] <Ronz> SupIAmMike, install
[04:20] <ic56> ron999: ls -ld /dev/fd*
[04:20] <Commander-Crowe> rmjb: try sda
[04:20] <linuxForHumans2> well, when that was the only linux directory there
[04:20] <SupIAmMike> so when i boot the cd i just type live or something instead of enter?
[04:20] <rmjb> sda points to one drive of the RAID-0
[04:20] <Ronz> push enter
[04:20] <Commander-Crowe> yeah
[04:20] <Ronz> "boot or install ubuntu"
[04:20] <Commander-Crowe> its like sda1 or sda2
[04:20] <ron999> ic56 no output
[04:20] <SupIAmMike> thats cool that they put both on 1 cd
[04:20] <wims> SupIAmMike,  i think it automatically boots you into ther live enviroment, if you want to install you have to do it from the desktop
[04:20] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, when I typed ../../ linux(tab) thats what showed
[04:20] <Ronz> ubuntu ftw
[04:21] <wims> or gnome
[04:21] <SupIAmMike> when i boot from cd can i still grab airsnort and kismet? (would i have to mount my hard drive to do that or something?)
[04:21] <LaserJock> roostishaw: hmm, well I'm not sure. It works for me
[04:22] <wims> SupIAmMike,  i dont think those packages are part of the live cd
[04:22] <ic56> ron999: *no* output?!  Not even /dev/fd  ?!  Are you sure you're typing commands in terminal?  If the files don't exist, you should at least get an error message.
[04:22] <dadgumit> keleus: why is automatix dangerous?
[04:22] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: you probably need the actual kernel source installed
[04:22] <wims> there are other better live cd's for wardriving
[04:22] <roostishaw> LaserJock, ok, well... thanks anyway
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> ok let me do that then, and I will get back to you
[04:22] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: i'd have to see the output of the Build command to get a better idea.
[04:22] <LaserJock> roostishaw: can you paste the result of apt-cache showsrc gaim ?
[04:22] <dadgumit> why would automatix be dangerous?
[04:22] <Ronz> SupIAmMike, if you want to use it for wardriving...i would reccommend installing ubuntu + airsnort + kismet
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> (19:17:57) linuxForHumans2: justin@ububox:/usr/src/adaptec/build$ sudo ./Build ../driver-aar81xx/ ../shipped-binary/ ../../linux-headers-2.6.15-26 try_quick=Yes blist+=i686
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> (19:17:57) linuxForHumans2: cp: cannot stat `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26/drivers/scsi/aar81xx/Makefile.kheaders-26.aar81xx.host_raid': No such file or directory
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> (19:17:57) linuxForHumans2: cp: cannot stat `/usr/src/adaptec/shipped-binary/host_raid.o.aar81xx.unknown.4.0.3': No such file or directory
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> (19:17:58) linuxForHumans2: subdir-$(CONFIG_SCSI_AAR81XX) += aar81xx
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> (19:17:58) linuxForHumans2:  No dotconfig files found, make terminated.
[04:23] <bruenig> !pastebin
[04:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:23] <wims> also get Aircrack-ng
[04:23] <ron999> ic56 bash: /dev/fd: is a directory
[04:23] <linuxForHumans2> sorry, didn't mean to do that
[04:23] <wims> must have for wardriving IMO
[04:23] <dadgumit> could someone tell me why automatix is bad?
[04:23] <SupIAmMike> Ronz - not really war driving, more like war sitting - taking my neighbors :-)
[04:23] <jbroome> !automatix
[04:23] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:23] <dadgumit> jbroome, thnx
[04:23] <wims> SupIAmMike,  yeah thats fun :D
[04:24] <Ronz> SupIAmMike, like i am right now. we have thunder storms
[04:24] <Ronz> =)
[04:24] <ic56> ron999: so, when you type ls -ld /dev/fd*  you should get at least output for /dev/fd .
[04:24] <_bbandit> me too
[04:24] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: for 2.6.15 it's about 45 MB -- i have to take off soon, so i may not be around to help you out by the time it's downloaded
[04:24] <hiffy> howdy folks
[04:24] <ron999> ic56 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-07-24 04:06 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd
[04:24] <ron999> ron@ron-desktop:~$
[04:24] <linuxForHumans2> I am on a cable moden, it will be quick
[04:24] <Ronz> and SupIAmMike i have also found out that linux drivers tend to be better than windows wireless drivers
[04:24] <ic56> ron999: that's more like it.  So how come before you said you got no output?  What did you do different?
[04:25] <ron999> ic56 i dunno, i closed the terminal and reopened it....
[04:26] <ron999> ic56 will you just explain in words what's wrong and i'll try it meself tomorrow, it's 3am
[04:26] <dadgumit> automatix room is empty
[04:26] <userone> hi...I nedd to send some compressed files to a Windows user. This may be a silly question, but does anyone know if Windows can easily open a tar archive?
[04:26] <sethk> ic56, perhaps he had done a chroot?
[04:26] <hiffy> userone: winzip can open tars
[04:27] <hiffy> and .gz too iirc
[04:27] <Commander-Crowe> userone: winace and winRAR
[04:27] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, is there an email address I can reach you at?
[04:27] <_bbandit> userone,  they can with winzip or winrar
[04:27] <userone> hiffy: thanks!!
[04:27] <ic56> ron999: well, it seems that any device nodes which you create manually in /dev get deleted upon the next boot.  Thus, our "sudo mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0"  is being lost.
[04:27] <ardchoille> dadgumit: it's not empty, there are 11 people in there
[04:27] <ic56> ron999: sethk makes a good point
[04:27] <hiffy> say, my copy of azureus is refusing to shelve this tiny little error msg in the corner of my screen
[04:27] <ron999> ic56 ok
[04:27] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: sure:  dave.carney@gmail.com
[04:27] <dadgumit> ardchoille: yeah, i was premature sorry
[04:28] <hiffy> clicking on "hide all" isnt doing anything for me. Would anyone happen to know anything about that?
[04:28] <_bbandit> hiffy,  use utorrent instead :D
[04:28] <hiffy> _bbandit: I thought that that was nonfree and windows only
[04:28] <_bbandit> true
[04:28] <_bbandit> but it works with wine
[04:28] <bruenig> dadgumit, if you are expecting them to answer why automatix is bad, that probably is a bit idealistic as that tends to be a channel for devs and the like and generally people don't like saying there own projects suck and are dangerous
[04:29] <hiffy> you, kind sir, are frustrating. Someone should hit you with a trout
[04:29] <ic56> ron999: try reissuing that sudo mknod command.  Things should start working again.  Then try rebooting.  If /dev/fd0 has disappared again, then clearly the problem is persistent and you'll have to follow up.  Until you find a permanent solution, you'll have to keep recreating the device manually every time you boot.  The work-around can be automated too but we won't get into that.
[04:29] <bruenig> hiffy, the stable version of azureus, from my experiences wont allow you to click those messages
[04:29] <bruenig> hiffy, the new betas work though
[04:30] <dadgumit> here is a good question I have, I had the double speed bug, and the fix described making a change in grub. Only problem is, the commands that worked for me (noacip and nolacip) are put before the (approximation) ro splash quiet stuff, it freezes on boot unless I edit the boot line in grub to include the noacip nolacip at the END of the boot string
[04:30] <_bbandit> hiffy,  me ?
[04:30] <ic56> sethk: thanks
[04:30] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[04:30] <hiffy> That's kind of a big blunder to call something stable, isn't it bruenig ?
[04:30] <userone> ok..thanks everyone
[04:30] <bruenig> hiffy, i debated putting the quotes around it
[04:30] <bruenig> that is what they call it on their site
[04:30] <hiffy> More like, not in the repository beta
[04:30] <Wiseguy> hey guys do you know of any apps that can read chm files?
[04:31] <_bbandit> isn't that windows help files?
[04:31] <redcard> Wiseguy: What are chm files?
[04:31] <hiffy> Hmm. Didn't have THAT problem in gentoo.
[04:31] <hiffy> mmkay. I'll get around to installing one of the betas.
[04:31] <_bbandit> a wild guess is that wine might read them, but i doubt it
[04:31] <Wiseguy> redcard, dunno, good question
[04:31] <ardchoille> redcard: They are compiled help files in the Microsoft world.
[04:31] <hiffy> why would you need to look at them then?
[04:31] <_bbandit> Wiseguy,  isn't that windows help files?
[04:32] <Wiseguy> oh right
[04:32] <hiffy> thanks bruenig.
[04:32] <dadgumit> here is a good question I have, I had the double speed bug, and the fix described making a change in grub. Only problem is, the commands that worked for me (noacip and nolacip) are put before the (approximation) ro splash quiet stuff, it freezes on boot unless I edit the boot line in grub to include the noacip nolacip at the END of the boot string
[04:32] <Wiseguy> is it possible to open them in ubuntu?
[04:32] <h3h_timo> could someone help me with a problem dealing with sudo??
[04:33] <hiffy> dadgumit: wheres the question?
[04:33] <MatthewV> h3h_timo, whats the problem?
[04:33] <bruenig> hiffy, here is the latest beta, you just download it rename it Azureus2.jar and then replace the original, pretty easy
[04:33] <bruenig> http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[04:33] <ron999> ic56 i've issued the command and floppy will format , mount, open unmount etc
[04:33] <hiffy> sweet. thanks bruenig
[04:33] <_bbandit> Wiseguy,  did you try with wine ?
[04:33] <h3h_timo> MatthewV, when i try to sudo i get this: sudo: unable to lookup Brad's Computer via gethostbyname()
[04:33] <stiv2k> how come i can't set my wifi card to transmit any higher than 60mW?  it can run up to 85mW but whenever i try setting it, it only goes lower
[04:33] <ardchoille> Wiseguy: There is an app, called gnochm, it's in universe.
[04:34] <hiffy> http://xchm.sourceforge.net/ try that out
[04:34] <hiffy> 2nd google hit [Wiebel] 
[04:34] <hiffy> er
[04:34] <hiffy> Wiseguy:
[04:34] <hiffy> i'll give that a shot. thanks bruenig.
[04:34] <ic56> ron999: good. Write down the command -- you're gonna need it until this is solved.  Now try rebooting.  Does that break things again?  If so, re-issue the command every time you boot
[04:34] <MatthewV> h3h_timo, sry, never seen that one before...
[04:35] <bruenig> hiffy, don't hold me to that beta being perfect, I am using beta 48, and this is 67, so might have added more and created bugs in the process
[04:35] <h3h_timo> MatthewV, i think it has to do with changing my name on the network, do you know what config file id have to edit to get it to work??
[04:35] <hiffy> bruenig: thats usually how it goes
[04:35] <ron999> ic56 yes, i have copied the command, i'll enter it into the terminal each session i think i will neeed  floppy
[04:35] <hiffy> slong as I can actually use Azureus.
[04:36] <hiffy> This is currently the snag number two in my ubuntu experience
[04:36] <ic56> ron999: ok
[04:36] <MatthewV> h3h_timo, if its changin ur name on the network: /etc/hostname
[04:36] <bruenig> hiffy, before the beta I would just close azureus and then start it up again, that did it
[04:36] <_bbandit> why would you want to use Azureus anyway ?
[04:36] <hiffy> when I close it it disappears
[04:36] <ic56> ron999: wanna save yourself some typing?
[04:36] <hiffy> no tray icon
[04:36] <ron999> ic56 do you think you will eventually be able to think of the solution?
[04:36] <hiffy> and the error window stays there
[04:37] <hiffy> _bbandit: if you would like to offer a concrete alternative that is not a troll I'm all ears.
[04:37] <bruenig> hiffy, not hitting the x, but going to file exit
[04:37] <hiffy> bruenig: same thing, tried that too.
[04:37] <_bbandit> hiffy,  i did. I mentioned utorrent, which runs under wine
[04:37] <_bbandit> it's the one i'm using
[04:37] <_bbandit> it's not a troll
[04:37] <hiffy> _bbandit: a non linux, non free solution in a linux distro channel, well
[04:37] <bruenig> _bbandity, utorrent with wine doesn't work very well, the thing blinks every couple of seconds and when you pull it up from the tray you always have to resize it
[04:37] <hiffy> I'ma keep with the troll.
[04:38] <odat> hi everyone
[04:38] <hiffy> plus what bruenig said.
[04:38] <odat> anyone want to give me some feedback about a project i'm working on and about finished with
[04:38] <ron999> ic56 i'll type the command into a file and copy and paste it until i get to know it off by heart
[04:38] <ic56> ron999: no.  I don't have that problem on my system so I can't replicate it.  I suspect it's a case of the system doing a cleanup at boot time -- trying to protect you from any damage you did previously.  In this case, it's working against you.  But I don't know where that's being done
[04:38] <hiffy> odat: depends
[04:38] <hiffy> whats the project
[04:38] <odat> hiffy, ?
[04:38] <ic56> ron999: actually, hang on, checking something
[04:38] <stiv2k> how come i can't set my wifi card to transmit any higher than 60mW?  it can run up to 85mW but whenever i try setting it, it only goes lower
[04:38] <odat> hiffy, something for all open source system people
[04:39] <mohan> hello guys
[04:39] <bruenig> I loved utorrent on windows and when they port it I will switch for sure but wine utorrent is less than spectacular even though it uses much less resources and accomplishes everything I want for azureus, bittorrent and rss feeds
[04:39] <odat> i'm at a road block in my brain and need some help
[04:39] <hiffy> odat: okay, link it
[04:39] <odat> http://www.fossystems.com
[04:40] <_bbandit> bruenig,  well, azuerus isn't exactly spectacular either ;P
[04:40] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, I sent you an email
[04:40] <mohan> quick question, i am trying to install dapper drake from CD but i would like to skip the live cd and go straight to the install , anyway to do this ?
[04:40] <hiffy> WHAT
[04:40] <ic56> ron999: hmmm, do this for me please: find /etc/rc?.d  |xargs grep MAKE
[04:40] <bruenig> _bbandity, works perfect, looks great
[04:40] <bruenig> what are the complaints
[04:40] <_bbandit> well, first of all it's java
[04:40] <hiffy> odat: that will tank so fast
[04:40] <_bbandit> it's slow
[04:40] <bruenig> yes, i mentioned
[04:40] <hiffy> _bbandit: whats wrong with java?
[04:40] <ic56> ron999: on the topic of saving yourself typing, do this for me too and tell me what it says: echo $PATH
[04:40] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, where do I get the kernel source, I did not see it in the repositories
[04:40] <odat> hiffy, why is that?
[04:41] <hiffy> linuxForHumans2: kernel.org
[04:41] <_bbandit> it's slow
[04:41] <hiffy> odat: no one will ever use that
[04:41] <Nuked> te glade file for the GUI seems to be of a different version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:41] <_bbandit> and a resource hog
[04:41] <bruenig> although I don't tend to sit around configuring azureus all the time. It is a one time set up and then let it run into the tray and automatically download my daily show and colbert report
[04:41] <alucard> good evening
[04:41] <odat> hiffy, well thats a hell of a reason
[04:41] <odat> hiffy, not too good at feedback huh
[04:41] <hiffy> Odat: you're competing against ebay
[04:41] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: "apt-cache search linux-source" will give you a list of packages
[04:41] <ron999> ic56 /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[04:41] <ic56> ron999: change the search string in the first command to MAKEDEV like so: find /etc/rc?.d  |xargs grep MAKEDEV
[04:41] <hiffy> one of your ads at the bottom from google
[04:42] <hiffy> actually says, 'the fastest way to search ebay'
[04:42] <Wiseguy> do any of you guys have an HP deskjet d4160?  i cant find any info about it and working with linux
[04:42] <bruenig> I might give utorrent another try, I couldn't stand the resizing everytime you pulled it back from the tray
[04:42] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: you probably want to then run "apt-get install <package>", in this case <package>=linux-source-2.6.17
[04:42] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: oops.  i means 2.6.15
[04:42] <Nuked> gnomefreak,  the glade file for the GUI seems to be of a different version
[04:42] <hiffy> if anyone will ever look past the shady style odat and actually use it, they'll have a hard time finding anyone else to buy it
[04:42] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: *meant.  sheesh.
[04:42] <odat> hiffy, not really ebay won't cater to a particular group and besides they also charge for listings and they don't take revenue generated to help push open source systems either
[04:42] <MarcN> Wiseguy: I just got an hp printer/scanner/copier (PSC 1510) and works great out of the box! (including scanning).  Check linuxprinting.org to see if it is supported.
[04:42] <hiffy> odat how do you make money?
[04:42] <alucard> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a channel related to educational projects or alternatives
[04:43] <hiffy> with this site that is.
[04:43] <ron999> ic56 whole lot of text on that last command
[04:43] <odat> hiffy, whats shady about it?
[04:43] <Nuked> bruenig utorrent works on linux?
[04:43] <ic56> ron999: either pastebin it or we can switch to a private channel
[04:43] <hiffy> odat: the font, the non antialised gfx
[04:43] <bruenig> Nuked, with wine
[04:43] <hiffy> odat: the fact that it looks like its a default style from some package
[04:43] <Cyorxamp> Hey, I have outlined a mega networking mystery at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221717
[04:44] <Cyorxamp> Worth a look if your real advanced on networking
[04:44] <bruenig> Wiseguy, the driver may not be listed, but you can generally use one of the other HP deskjet drivers and it will work, it is all pretty much the same
[04:44] <ron999> ic56 i dont know how to pastebin, use a private channel if it's not inconveint
[04:44] <ron999> ic56*inconvenient
[04:44] <ic56> ron999: actually, try this command -- it should give less output: find /etc/rc?.d  |xargs grep -l MAKEDEV
[04:44] <ardchoille> How do I change a type of file so that it opens with gedit?
[04:44] <odat> hiffy, gotcha so your only about commercialized industry not about an idea
[04:44] <Wiseguy> i did try, and it made the printer go haywire
[04:44] <hiffy> odat: you're being hostile to my upfrontness
[04:44] <hiffy> if you plan to make money, good luck but i wouldn't bet money on you
[04:44] <ic56> ron999: ok, I'll invite you to a private channel if the output from the new command is too long.  Let me know
[04:44] <MarcN> Wiseguy: this is a better place to see if your printer is supported: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/    be sure to have the hplip package installed.
[04:45] <ron999> ic56/etc/rc0.d/K20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc1.d/K20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc2.d/S20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc3.d/S20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc4.d/S20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc5.d/S20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc6.d/K20makedev
[04:45] <_bbandit> ewww
[04:45] <_bbandit> don't do that
[04:45] <ic56> ron999: aha! bingo!
[04:45] <ardchoille> ron999: You were kicked earlier for that
[04:45] <odat> hiffy, i'm not planning to make money  i'm trying to help open source the best way i can   obviously we now know what your all about
[04:45] <LaserJock> alucard: what are you looking for specifically?
[04:45] <jordan> has anyone installed the nvidia drivers on ubuntu for a geforce gfx card ?
[04:45] <kintaro0e> hello everyone...i need advice..i need to setup a file server..currently i have production server which is on the public network, and i have clients on a private network..do i need to install samba?does the private network can get and store files on it?
[04:46] <hiffy> odat: I submit patches, translate and submit bug reports. If you want to question my "commitment" to oss, well, that's your choice.
[04:46] <Ronz> jordan, does a 6800 GT count?
[04:46] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, thanks downloading/installing right now
[04:46] <Nuked> have you guys seen the systems offered by system76? all preloaded with ubuntu
[04:46] <Wiseguy> MarcN, yeah it is listed there
[04:46] <jordan> ronz: i guess a geforce is a geforce i have a 6200
[04:46] <vega___> *yawn*
[04:46] <MarcN> Wiseguy: and you have hplip installed?   USB I assume.
[04:46] <odat> hiffy, yes i already made the choice to question it.  And i do
[04:46] <vega___> i just got linux installed and it looks promising =)
[04:46] <hiffy> odat: but do keep in mind that there isn't, to the best of my knowledge, a market for 2nd hand system disks over the internet
[04:47] <Terminus> kintaro0e: depends on what you want. if you want windows clients to be able to access it, then yes, you need samba.
[04:47] <alucard> An IRC channel. I want to know how schools are integrating ubuntu and maybe some curriculums or projects.
[04:47] <LaserJock> alucard: I'd try #edubuntu
[04:47] <Ronz> then yes jordan, i have installed it
[04:47] <Ronz> !nvidia
[04:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:47] <Wiseguy> MarcN, i have the one through synaptic installed..
[04:47] <hiffy> odat: presumably there is one for preset up myth boxes and set up laptops
[04:47] <Wiseguy> and yes USB
[04:47] <alucard> thank you
[04:47] <alucard> thank you!!!
[04:47] <jordan> Ronz, does everything work right ? cause my installer tells me i have some errors and stuff
[04:47] <_FlUiD_> where can i get ubuntu-desktop??
[04:47] <vega___> can someone here tell me if/how i can access the data on my windows partitions from ubuntu?
[04:47] <h3h_timo> MatthewV, i tried to change that, but i cant because when i try to sudo gedit /etc/hostname, it gives me that error
[04:48] <Ronz> yes jordan, all works good. had WoW running this afternoon. =)
[04:48] <MarcN> Wiseguy: that should do it.  did hplip detect the printer when you plugged it in the first time?
[04:48] <odat> hiffy, then i challenge you to find me an auction site that is about new and used computers already setup with open source software
[04:48] <kintaro0e> Terminus: even my server is on public network?hehehe..if yes..are there any configurations that i need to make the private network could use it?or just the configurations of samba
[04:48] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <hiffy> odat: but the curious chicken and egg problem with internet auctions means that in order to get users you need auctions and in order to get auctions you need usders
[04:48] <jordan> Ronz, the error said: "You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing."
[04:48] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, it is now installed, I will try those instructions again
[04:48] <Ronz> jordan, did you use apt-get install?
[04:49] <Jessehk> In the Kubuntu, when choosing a style for using with gtk apps, where does KDE get the available themes from? Some are missing.
[04:49] <hiffy> odat: there might as well not be, but I doubt in the first place that's because no one hasn't tried.
[04:49] <Wiseguy> MarcN, umm, not that im aware of... the system was booted with the printer plugged in though
[04:49] <_FlUiD_> _bbandit: an error is showing "Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop"
[04:49] <hiffy> odat: it's rare nowadays to find a distro that doesnt work out of the box with most hardware.
[04:49] <jordan> Ronz, i used "sudo sh NVIDIA....ect.run"
[04:49] <MarcN> Wiseguy: try taking it out, wait a few seconds and plug it in again
[04:49] <Riyonuk> Im back again for help...when trying to use my dial-up, it says its not detected from that drop down meny of dev/tysl00 or something like that
[04:49] <LaserJock> odat: it's and interesting idea but I think "Buy & Sell free open source sytems" is a little confusing
[04:50] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  hmmm that's weird
[04:50] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: ok.  lemme know how it works out
[04:50] <Terminus> kintaro0e: just block out the public ip. just configure samba correctly. if you're using a firewall, make sure you have the firewall configured properly too.
[04:50] <MatthewV> h3h_timo, don't think this will help, but try running 'sudo -s' without anything else
[04:50] <odat> hiffy, thats true it is a chicken or egg situation but hopefully it would be understood that if everyones efforts are used to push advertising for a single place to sell open source systems then everyone can be much more visible to the customer
[04:50] <Ronz> jordan, use sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[04:50] <_FlUiD_> _bbandit: yeah, i think the repository is not yet set
[04:50] <odat> LaserJock, until you look in the FAQ
[04:50] <Ronz> jordan, then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and make it point to "nvidia" driver instead of "nv"
[04:50] <_FlUiD_> where is it located?
[04:50] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  it should be in the main repository
[04:50] <hiffy> odat: right, right, except any dell I buy will prolly be cheaper and work just as well out of the box
[04:51] <Ronz> and nvidia-glx jordan
[04:51] <_FlUiD_> _bbandit: btw, i am currently using kubuntu
[04:51] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, ok in the directory where the linux headers were, the source is there too, but in a tar.bz2, so I need to unpack that real quick
[04:51] <hiffy> odat: and there are a number of 1st time vendors especialising on foss systems
[04:51] <hiffy> that will also sell you support contracts.
[04:51] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  yeah i figured that out, but it should still be in main repository AFAIK
[04:51] <kintaro0e> Terminus: what do you mean by just block out the public ip? :P
[04:51] <jordan> Ronz, how do i make it point to my nvidia driver ? i'm pretty new to linux
[04:51] <hiffy> the 2nd hand market for free open source systems is non existant.
[04:51] <_FlUiD_> _bbandit: any idea why is it happening?
[04:51] <odat> hiffy, very true and you also see those vendors advertising on auction site as well i'm not just limiting the site to used computers
[04:52] <Terminus> kintaro0e: don't allow the rest of the internet to get to your file server.
[04:52] <hiffy> odat: I see auctions and highest bids.
[04:52] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  only guess is that main is not in your sources.list
[04:52] <LaserJock> _FlUiD_: seems like your apt-cache is messed up or something
[04:52] <Wiseguy> MarcN, what is supposed to happen? :P
[04:52] <MarcN> Wiseguy: did it work?
[04:52] <_FlUiD_> how can i fix it?
[04:52] <jordan> Ronz, is it possible for you to just copy everything in your xorg.conf and put it on pastebin ?
[04:52] <hiffy> odat: nice idea, but it'll tank and stagnate, imho. You would've gained more out of your time had you registered a cool domain you coulda reused.
[04:53] <MarcN> Wiseguy: for me, a dialog came up and asked to create a new print queue.  I said yes and everything was set up properly.
[04:53] <MarcN> Wiseguy: only needed to do it once.
[04:53] <Wiseguy> damn
[04:53] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  open synaptic and see if main is enabled
[04:53] <kintaro0e> Terminus: ah.ok..thanks..i'll just pm you if i'm on the right path..,is it ok.hehee
[04:53] <hiffy> odat: and that is my brutal honest opinion. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
[04:53] <Ronz> jordan, you dont want to do that
[04:53] <bruenig> !info wine-dev
[04:53] <ubotu> wine-dev: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Development files). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1366 kB, installed size 9528 kB
[04:53] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  i dunno how to fix apt-cache issues though
[04:53] <Wiseguy> MarcN, doesnt seem like im as lucky
[04:53] <Ronz> im not on my gaming rig jordan
[04:53] <odat> hiffy, you don't hurt my feelings  guys like you end up working for guys like me
[04:53] <dadgumit> here is a good question I have, I had the double speed bug, and the fix described making a change in grub. Only problem is, the commands that worked for me (noacip and nolacip) are put before the (approximation) ro splash quiet stuff, it freezes on boot unless I edit the boot line in grub to include the noacip nolacip at the END of the boot string
[04:53] <bruenig> should i get the development files, what exactly is that
[04:54] <hiffy> odat: do you actually have a company and any employees as of right now?
[04:54] <MarcN> Wiseguy: does creating the queue manually work?
[04:54] <jordan> Ronz, i'm looking at the xorg.conf file now but i don't see were i would put something to point to nvidia
[04:54] <Terminus> kintaro0e: something like socket address = 192.168.0.0/24 in smb.conf will restrict it to that network i think. firewall would work too.
[04:54] <Ronz> to edit the file, you will type "sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and scroll down to the part about the nvidia driver
[04:54] <odat> hiffy, do you actually work for someone ?
[04:54] <Terminus> kintaro0e: oops, sorry. it's socket address = $ip_of_private_interface
[04:54] <dadgumit> Anybody got any ideas on the grub issues?
[04:55] <Ronz> it will be under device jordan
[04:55] <Wiseguy> kind of.. it says "use a detected printer" and it lists the HP Deskjet D4100 series... but when i click on forward it asks for the model (which isnt listed) and then which driver to use
[04:55] <hiffy> odat: I was briefly an intern at a startup but it closed shop cos of no VC funding. Currently I'm an offive bitch in an insurance company. In september I will be on my 2nd year of my CS degree.
[04:55] <Ronz> but make sure you have nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common first!
[04:55] <kintaro0e> Terminus: ah..ok..thanks
[04:55] <hiffy> odat: I hope to specialise in either Soft Eng or Security.
[04:55] <Ronz> heres the wiki jordan:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:56] <LaserJock> hiffy and odat: your conversation is not really getting anywhere and is very off topic for this channel
[04:56] <ardchoille> hiffy , odat : can you please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[04:56] <jordan> Ronz, it already says my card and info and for driver it put "nv"
[04:56] <odat> hiffy, excellent at least you have a plan
[04:56] <kintaro0e> Terminus: btw..is it safe to put it on the public? if its not.any alternatives like ftp server?
[04:56] <hiffy> sorry folks.
[04:56] <odat> sorry everyone
[04:56] <hiffy> I'm off.
[04:56] <odat> done
[04:56] <MarcN> Wiseguy: look carefully, sometimes the CUPS list of hp printers is sorted by full name, say Deskjet 4160 vs D4160
[04:56] <LaserJock> hiffy and odat: thanks guys
[04:56] <Ronz> jordan, once you have installed the drivers...you will change it from "nv" to "nvidia". Ubuntu can not release nvidia binary's...so we have to do it this way
[04:56] <odat> LaserJock, np
[04:56] <Wiseguy> not even a 4100 listed
[04:57] <jordan> Ronz,  oh alright so i just change nv to nvidia and i'm done ?!
[04:57] <Ronz> only if you have gotten the nvidia-glx
[04:57] <VegaObscura> can someone show me how to install wine in ubuntu?
[04:58] <Ronz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia is the howto
[04:58] <lecaros> !wine
[04:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:58] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, sudo apt-get install wine
[04:58] <Ronz> but if you have everything installed jordan ....yes, thats it. just reboot afterward
[04:58] <jordan> Ronz,  alright thanks alot. i'm going to reboot now then
[04:58] <_bbandit> MatthewV,  he need to enable wine repositories first
[04:58] <dadgumit> here is a good question I have, I had the double speed bug, and the fix described making a change in grub. Only problem is, the commands that worked for me (noacip and nolacip) are put before the (approximation) ro splash quiet stuff, it freezes on boot unless I edit the boot line in grub to include the noacip nolacip at the END of the boot string
[04:58] <LaserJock> Ronz: don't you just run nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[04:58] <Ronz> LaserJock, to enable yes
[04:58] <VegaObscura> running sudo apt-get install wine gives me an error
[04:58] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, I have to talk to you via email now, later, sry
[04:59] <VegaObscura> something about could not get lock
[04:59] <MatthewV> _bbandit, oops.. forgot about that...
[04:59] <Ronz> then you edit your xorg.conf file
[04:59] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, do you have synaptic or something open?
[04:59] <LaserJock> Ronz: you shouldn't have to
[04:59] <LaserJock> that's the point of it I thought
[04:59] <VegaObscura> *checks* yes synaptic is open
[04:59] <VegaObscura> close it and try again?
[04:59] <Tlo> Hi! I have just installed ubuntu, but I was not prompted to add a root pwd during install, now i'm trying to update my installation, but I need a root pwd. Is there some default pwd i need to know about?
[04:59] <_bbandit> VegaObscura,  add this lines to your sources.list file :  deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[04:59] <_bbandit> then run apt-get update
[04:59] <Ronz> LaserJock: it made me when i installed it on my dekstop
[04:59] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, yep
[04:59] <_bbandit> and it should be possible to install it with apt-get install wine
[05:00] <VegaObscura> it works this time
[05:00] <VegaObscura> wow you guys are good
[05:00] <MatthewV> _bbandit, wine is in repos isn't it? multiverse... or..
[05:00] <VegaObscura> =)
[05:00] <dadgumit> tlo it is the password for yourmain account prolly
[05:00] <MatthewV> !info wine
[05:00] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[05:00] <LaserJock> Ronz: really? for mine I just ran that and it made all the changes in xorg.conf
[05:00] <Wiseguy> when i choose a printer that uses the HPLIP driver the printer almost works, but it starts going haywire and doesnt print anything... just makes me reset the printer
[05:00] <dadgumit> Anyone good with grub?
[05:00] <MatthewV> _bbandit, see ubotu above
[05:00] <ic56> When someone says they have a "amd k6400mhz cpu"  is that a 32-bit or 64-bit CPU?
[05:00] <MatthewV> dadgumit, just ask question and find out:)
[05:00] <_bbandit> MatthewV,  i believe they have their own repository unrelated to ubuntu repositories
[05:00] <Ronz> LaserJock, i may have forgotten to do it...i was just used to doing it the gentoo way =P
[05:00] <eobanb> 32-bit, ic56
[05:00] <dadgumit> MatthewV: Have, noone answers
[05:00] <dadgumit> here is a good question I have, I had the double speed bug, and the fix described making a change in grub. Only problem is, the commands that worked for me (noacip and nolacip) are put before the (approximation) ro splash quiet stuff, it freezes on boot unless I edit the boot line in grub to include the noacip nolacip at the END of the boot string
[05:01] <ic56> eobarb: thanks.  Do you happen to have such a box?  Could you grep something for me?
[05:01] <Dev05> Tlo, is the same as your password.
[05:01] <_bbandit> MatthewV,  oh, i didn't know. I don't think it was there when i installed it back on breezy
[05:01] <Ronz> night yall
[05:01] <LaserJock> Ronz: hehe, I can undestand that, I'm a recovering Gentooer too
[05:01] <MatthewV> _bbandit, no progs
[05:01] <MatthewV> *probs
[05:01] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, installing??
[05:01] <ic56> eobanb: thanks.  Do you happen to have such a box?  Could you grep something for me?
[05:01] <Tlo> dadgumit: I got authentication failure when using my account pwd.
[05:01] <Ronz> LaserJock, at least we wont miss the long nights of recovering our X server. ;)
[05:01] <odat> oh i'm on hiffy's ignore list i'm soooo hurt
[05:01] <MatthewV> dadgumit, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and put them at the end of the appropriate line
[05:01] <dadgumit> Tlo: Sorry, my root pass is the same
[05:02] <skavenge> can anyone help with NAT, both machines can ping each other and ics  is turned on in firestarter yet i cant get anywhere on  the second machine??
[05:02] <LaserJock> Ronz: lol
[05:02] <MatthewV> dadgumit, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:02] <Ronz> LaserJock, i still have night mares and wake up with cold chills
[05:02] <Ryugi> HELLO
[05:02] <GaiaX11> How to change my background login? Actually mine is a blue kubuntu background
[05:02] <eobanb> ic56, i used to have a k6, but not anymore, sorry.
[05:03] <Ronz> GaiaX11, gdmsetup
[05:03] <dadgumit> MatthewV: The double speed bug fix said that I should put them on a different line (that grub will apply to all kernels it boots), are you saying I should change it to the actual line on the Kernel, per kernel?
[05:03] <Ryugi> has anyone ever installed ubuntu on a intel core duo laptop
[05:03] <Ryugi> will it work on it
[05:03] <Ronz> you may need sudo GaiaX11
[05:03] <ic56> eobanb: thanks again.  I'll try the channel
[05:03] <MatthewV> dadgumit, do you have a link to the fix you are following?
[05:03] <odat> Ryugi, sure it will
[05:03] <dadgumit> MatthewV: lemme find it
[05:03] <VegaObscura> can i install windows onto this computer and still be able to boot to ubuntu, without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[05:04] <Ryugi> what about the wireless network card
[05:04] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: just emailed you re: the Adaptec driver.  i have serious doubts that you'll be able to get it working under Ubuntu as-is.
[05:04] <_bbandit> VegaObscura, probably
[05:04] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, windows will overwrite the bootloader, but you can fix that
[05:04] <ic56> Anyone have a AMD k6 (32-bit) CPU?  Could you look something up for me on your box?
[05:04] <VegaObscura> how so?
[05:04] <_bbandit> VegaObscura,  but you need a separate partition for windows
[05:04] <GaiaX11> Ronz: Thanks. I will have a look
[05:04] <VegaObscura> i already have a seperate partition ready for it =)
[05:05] <_bbandit> VegaObscura, you need to reinstall grub afterwards
[05:05] <_atomic> Hello
[05:05] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, I would install windows....
[05:05] <VegaObscura> i never installed grub in the first place...
[05:05] <dadgumit> MatthewV: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Double_Clock_Speed
[05:05] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, then boot the ubuntu live cd, and, from terminal, do a chroot /dev/<ubuntu_partition> followed by a sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:06] <VegaObscura> thanks!
[05:06] <mrcoyote> bn all ++
[05:06] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, when you get to that stage, just ask on here, and I or someone else will help you :)
[05:06] <MatthewV> if its within an hour or two i will be here
[05:07] <mitel> Hello room / channel
[05:07] <VegaObscura> now just one more question, can i access files on my windows partitions from ubuntu?
[05:07] <VegaObscura> as in reading them, not writing
[05:07] <MatthewV> !ntfs
[05:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:07] <_bbandit> :)
[05:07] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, you may not have installed grub, but ubuntu did :)
[05:08] <hiffy> I wish the ubuntu auto mounter would write you an fstab
[05:08] <hiffy> I really dont want to do it myself, especially since the auto mounter mounts them so nicely as it is
[05:08] <GaiaX11> Ronz: look this: sudo gdmsetup
[05:08] <GaiaX11>   Failed to connect to socket, sleep 1 second and retry
[05:09] <dadgumit> MatthewV: any ideas?
[05:09] <tgarza> hello! my ubuntu installation has a problem...It freezes when I tried to run the Open Office apps...I cannot find what is making the system crash.  Any piece of advice would be appreciated.
[05:09] <MatthewV> dadgumit, sry... forgot, I'll look now
[05:09] <dadgumit> MatthewV: np, thnx for the help
[05:09] <Rikkimaru> Could someone help me get my sound working? I'm looking at the wiki and it doesn't seem to help much...
[05:11] <ryan_naruto> how can I mount my usb flash drive manually xubuntu doesnt automatically see it
[05:11] <MatthewV> dadgumit, so what do you add to the menu entry? noapic nolapic ?
[05:11] <Paladine> !info media
[05:11] <ubotu> Package media does not exist in dapper
[05:11] <Paladine> !info dvd
[05:11] <ubotu> Package dvd does not exist in dapper
[05:11] <Paladine> !dvd
[05:11] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:11] <Rikkimaru> anyone?
[05:12] <Paladine> anyone remember the link to the extra codecs page?
[05:12] <mitel> !info gresistor
[05:12] <ubotu> Package gresistor does not exist in dapper
[05:12] <Rikkimaru> !info audio
[05:12] <ubotu> Package audio does not exist in dapper
[05:12] <MatthewV> Paladine :
[05:12] <MatthewV> !restricted
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:12] <Paladine> thanks matt
[05:12] <Jimbo2006> !codecs
[05:12] <ryan_naruto> ive installed some codecs but it cant play my avi files properly
[05:12] <caturOK> hello everyone
[05:12] <mitel> !info wildfire
[05:12] <ubotu> Package wildfire does not exist in dapper
[05:13] <caturOK> how to build bind9 at ubunti
[05:13] <MatthewV> dadgumit, you there?
[05:13] <hiffy> bruenig: it seems to have worked. Danke.
[05:13] <mitel> !info realbasic
[05:13] <ubotu> Package realbasic does not exist in dapper
[05:13] <tgarza> any word on why the system crashes after I browse the list of processes?
[05:14] <MatthewV> mitel, !info gives information on packages in dapper.... do you realise that?
[05:14] <ryan_naruto> my ubuntu doesnt recognize my usb stick when i plug it in... at first it did but when i ejected it and plugged it back in it cant detect it anymore what should i do...
[05:14] <MatthewV> Rikkimaru, what model sound card?
[05:14] <hiffy> !info mplayer
[05:14] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[05:14] <ardchoille> mitel: You can do a /query ubotu and search there :)
[05:14] <skavenge> can anyone help with NAT, both machines can ping each other and ics  is turned on in firestarter yet i cant get anywhere on  the second machine??
[05:14] <mitel> Ah, no wonder  was hoping it says if in respo
[05:14] <Rikkimaru> MatthewV:  Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) HD Audio
[05:14] <mitel> thanks
[05:14] <dadgumit> MatthewV: sorry, had to step away for a moment, yes noapic nolapic is what worked for me (first try for once in my life :P)
[05:15] <VegaObscura> i know my monitor will go up to 1280x1024, can i get ubuntu to bring the workspace size up that high?
[05:15] <bruenig> hiffy, yeah i am configuring utorrent with the newest wine
[05:15] <sethk> VegaObscura, yes
[05:15] <ryan_naruto> my ubuntu doesnt recognize my usb stick when i plug it in... at first it did but when i ejected it and plugged it back in it cant detect it anymore what should i do...
[05:15] <VegaObscura> in screen resolution preferences, it only goes up to 1024x768
[05:15] <VegaObscura> how do i bring it up?
[05:15] <MatthewV> dadgumit, then do a sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add noapic nolapic to the end of the line you would usually edit :) should be first kernel entry
[05:15] <MatthewV> VegaObscura:
[05:15] <MatthewV> !resolution
[05:15] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:16] <dadgumit> MatthewV: Or whichever kernel I would like to boot correct? (I have actually found the 686 to be faster than the k7
[05:16] <sethk> VegaObscura, reconfigure X, and tell it that you have a monitor that can do 1280x1024 @ 70hz  (or whatever the hz it can do)
[05:16] <MatthewV> dadgumit, yeah, whichever kernel you normally boot
[05:17] <dadgumit> MatthewV: will this have any effects when i upgrade kernels etc?
[05:17] <dadgumit> MatthewV: (I have an upgrade notice for my kernel)
[05:18] <MatthewV> dadgumit, i think it will just mean that you will have to add those options to every new kernel that is installed... a bit tedious, but i don't think there is a better way.. might be though
[05:18] <dadgumit> MatthewV: it's better than modding the boot line every time I start my computer :)
[05:19] <MatthewV> dadgumit, yeah, good point, and now that dapper has been released, there shouldn't be many kernel upgrades
[05:19] <MatthewV> not like running it prerelease, kernel upgrade every week
[05:19] <dadgumit> Another question, I have seen screen shoots with people that have system monitoring uts (like hard drive space, memory usage, proc usage, etc... similar to yahoo widgets)
[05:20] <MatthewV> dadgumit, running where???? as in, where are these utilities placed? on the desktop?
[05:20] <dadgumit> yessir
[05:20] <hiffy> Hmm I forget the name of the gnome widgets, but in kde you do that with karamba widgets.
[05:20] <MatthewV> dadgumit, have a look at gdesklets
[05:21] <MatthewV> or karamba if on kde, as hiffy said
[05:21] <dadgumit> MatthewV: thanks, appreciate the help, you too hiffy
[05:21] <dadgumit> bed time for me, to do list has grown considerably since I sat down thanks again all
[05:21] <MatthewV> dadgumit, are you on gnome or kde?
[05:22] <MatthewV> dadgumit, no probs have fun :)
[05:22] <tgarza> I am new to ubuntu.  I need to find out how can I detect what is making my system freeze when I browse the processes list...It also happens when I start the open office apps...any advise
[05:23] <dadgumit> gnome
[05:23] <hiffy> tgarza: close any OO.o app
[05:23] <hiffy> open a terminal
[05:23] <dadgumit> MatthewV: Gnome, have been enjoying the simplicity
[05:23] <hiffy> type oowriter &
[05:23] <MatthewV> dadgumit, yeah, gdesklets is what you need then, or maybe gkrellm if thats still around...
[05:23] <hiffy> see what error msgs appear if any
[05:23] <MatthewV> dadgumit, yeah me too, but lets not start a kde vs gnome flame war :-)
[05:23] <hiffy> or just oowriter in your terminal. Then we might be able to give you more info
[05:23] <ardchoille> dadgumit: You might wanna look at gkrellm, I use it and I think it's great.
[05:24] <dadgumit> MatthewV: yeah, i am starting to figure out some people take thier interfaces seriously
[05:24] <dadgumit> :)
[05:24] <MatthewV> dadgumit, just use e17 and duck out of it :)
[05:25] <yUSiyEEE> has anyone experienced problem like this: can't open other input method in firefox?
[05:25] <dadgumit> !e17
[05:25] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[05:25] <AlienX> anyone know of any issues involving installing the sun java packages after already having the open source java installed? Apt or dpkg won't let me install sun-java5-jre or sun-java5-bin
[05:26] <hiffy> AlienX: they are non free (as in libre). You often have to agree to a EULA
[05:26] <hiffy> use synaptic, it didnt give me a hardtime for installing it
[05:26] <ringard|still_bi> what is the tool called that validates your smb.conf file?
[05:26] <AlienX> hiffy, that's not the issue, the package itself won't install. One sec, I'll post the output
[05:26] <Paladine> hmmm why can't I find my linux kernel headers in synaptic?
[05:26] <MatthewV> hiffy, you agree to a EULA when u use ubuntu too... its called the GPL
[05:27] <hiffy> MatthewV: This is true :P. But usually I don't have to click to agree using GPL packages on a GPL system
[05:27] <agro1986> question: does the ubuntu DVD contains more package than the ubuntu CD? what are some example packages worth mentioning?
[05:27] <snoop> i can't play streaming video with mplayer using the command line
[05:27] <AlienX> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:27] <AlienX>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[05:27] <MatthewV> agro1986, i think the dvd just includes both the desktop and alternate installs on the same disc
[05:28] <ardchoille> agro1986: iirc, the DVD contains installs for different archs, it doesn't contain more packages than the CD's.
[05:28] <hiffy> AlienX: hmm. Try redownloading it.
[05:28] <AlienX> hiffy, that's not the issue. It's been like this for months.
[05:28] <hiffy> AlienX: Reeaally. I installed it earlier today via synaptic; you on whatever animal combination the latest is?
[05:29] <hiffy> Dapper something?
[05:29] <snoop> i keep getting this message failed to load: avisynth.dll,
[05:29] <ardchoille> snoop: You using wine?
[05:29] <tgarza> hiffy: my system went freeze again...
[05:29] <snoop> archoi: how can i check? i am pretty sure i installed it
[05:29] <tgarza> when I type oowriter &
[05:30] <AlienX> hiffy, i'm using dapper. the package version is listed in my paste above. Do you have the open-source java installed as well?
[05:30] <hiffy> AlienX: aye, i think it comes default. GCJ if I recall
[05:30] <tgarza> sorry...when I typed "oowriter &"
[05:30] <tgarza> hiffy: any other piece of advise?
[05:30] <hiffy> AlienX: shamefully its not so good with interfaces using Swing, so I can't use it :P
[05:30] <AlienX> hiffy, I have blackdown installed which may be the issue
[05:30] <hiffy> tgarza: no error messages?
[05:31] <hiffy> AlienX: nope. You can have more than one jdk installed
[05:31] <raskolnikov> does anyone know how to remove the password prompt when you close your laptop lid on breezy?
[05:31] <tgarza> no error messages...where I can check them?
[05:31] <AlienX> hiffy, hmm, don't know why it wouldn't unpack then.
[05:31] <laxman> how do i change my net IP
[05:31] <paloyme> i need help on firefox... what addon do i use to bypass sites that require internet explorer
[05:31] <hiffy> AlienX: I can only imagine lack of disk space, or corrupt file. It shouldn't be a package conflict, not with that error msg
[05:31] <AlienX> hiffy, i've had the same issues since flight 5...just figured I'd ask again and see if anything new has come up
[05:31] <hiffy> AlienX: do try it via synaptic.
[05:32] <hiffy> Flight 5? (I just changed over today)
[05:32] <tgarza> hiffy. I have checked some logs and I can't find any related error message...
[05:32] <hiffy> Some of the ubuntu-isms are still lost on me, a filthy gentoo user
[05:32] <Ryugi> can ubuntu work with the wireless adapter for my dell laptop
[05:32] <hiffy> tgarza: Sorry mate, I haven't a clue without any error messages.
[05:32] <raskolnikov> how can you tell if someone is ssh'ed into you and what commands they've been running?
[05:32] <AlienX> hiffy, http://pastebin.ca/97860 is the full output.
[05:32] <AlienX> hiffy, flight 5 was dapper before it was stable
[05:32] <paloyme> what does lts in 6.06 lts mean?
[05:33] <tgarza> hiffy...I am going to try again...
[05:33] <Jimbo2006> Ryagi I'm on a wireless lappy now
[05:33] <jbroome> long term support
[05:33] <ardchoille> Long Term Support
[05:33] <Dasnipa`> long term support Paladine
[05:33] <hiffy> I'd suggest trying reinstalling it or trying it on a compy with more ram tgarza. Sorry.
[05:33] <paloyme> uhmmm what does long term support mean? why did they offer it only on 6.06?
[05:33] <hiffy> #
[05:33] <hiffy> sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented
[05:33] <hiffy> #
[05:33] <hiffy> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:33] <Ryugi> pk nice
[05:33] <hiffy> # subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[05:34] <ardchoille> 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server
[05:34] <hiffy> thats, uh, your problem it seems.
[05:34] <lauri> #ubuntu-br joint
[05:34] <dustron> ardchoille: hi
[05:34] <dustron> dustron:
[05:34] <hiffy> paloyme: first version that they felt was good enough for long term support
[05:34] <Dasnipa`> Paladine, means that theyll be supporting it for 3 years (5 server) means that its a very stable release
[05:34] <AlienX> hiffy, yeah but i don't know what hte fix is/may be
[05:34] <paloyme> this means that on dapper, you are guaranteed support for 3 years
[05:34] <Jimbo2006> ardchoille: isn't your nick a scottish battle cry?
[05:34] <MatthewV> hiffy, you need to install thorugh synaptic so it can throw a license at you
[05:34] <lauri> Oi, Galera! Alguem pode me dizer se h um programa equivalente ao corel pra usar no linux?
[05:34] <hiffy> AlienX: I might sound annoying by now, but try have you tried snatic
[05:35] <oneseventeen> My latest attempt at exporting an audio file from Ardour resulted in 30 minutes of silence, any ideas?
[05:35] <hiffy> *synaptic
[05:35] <ardchoille> Jimbo2006: Aye, it is. Ard Choille! (To the high trees!)
[05:35] <AlienX> hiffy, yeah, synaptic tells me it won't install either
[05:35] <Jimbo2006> he!
[05:35] <majorTool> can anyone help a rookie setup Anjuta to build opengl code written in c? I seem to have some problem with my glut libs but after a few days of reading through help docs and forums I've gotten nowhere.
[05:35] <oneseventeen> (when it was a single channel 30 second test, it worked perfectly, only after I recorded my 30 minute podcast did it stop working)
[05:35] <hiffy> MatthewV: I present to you AlienX.
[05:35] <goatmale> !C
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about C - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:35] <anon1872> i need help changing the settings so that i wont get a password everytime i shut my laptops lid
[05:35] <anon1872> can anyone help?
[05:35] <paloyme> can anybody help me with firefox? cant seem to browse a site that requires ie
[05:35] <MatthewV> hiffy, yeah, i knew it was someone else, just didn't know who :)
[05:35] <dustron> is there a way to import bookmarks from mozilla in windows to ubuntu?
[05:35] <hiffy> heh :)
[05:35] <_marshall> hey guys
[05:36] <_marshall> my firefox crashes on me all the time
[05:36] <Leafw> bug in metacity: when calling toFront() form java, windows get activated but do not make it to the front. Any known solution ?
[05:36] <lauri> Hi folks, doesn anyone know if there is a program like coreldraw to work in linux?
[05:36] <hiffy> _marshall: make a new profile. (run from terminal using firefox -p )
[05:36] <Leafw> lauri : try inkscape and gimp, that's the best there is
[05:36] <GaiaX11> Now how do I change that horrible kubuntu blue boot initialising system?
[05:36] <ryan_naruto> help ive restarted my system my ubuntu can still recognize my usb drive
[05:36] <HellDragon> is there a way to make .m4u files work ?? (winamp music files)
[05:36] <HellDragon> under Dapper*
[05:36] <MatthewV> anon1872, maybe change the screensaver options (System --> Preferences --> Screensaver) so the screen isn't locked when going on screensaver, or change the options Power Management
[05:37] <Leafw> !ubotu mp3
[05:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:37] <goatmale> helldragon yes
[05:37] <_marshall> hiffy: ok, what does that do?
[05:37] <yahn> can anyone tell me where I could find a irc room where I could find some help with bind?
[05:37] <Leafw> yahn : try ##freebsd
[05:37] <hiffy> _marshall: runs firefox's profile manager. Lets you create a new one.
[05:37] <HellDragon> m4u != mp3
[05:37] <goatmale> #bind?
[05:37] <anon1872> i'm on breezy MatthewV
[05:37] <yahn> leafw thank you
[05:37] <anon1872> as you can imagine i've heard that quite a few times
[05:37] <_marshall> hiffy: does having a new profile stop the crashes?
[05:37] <hiffy> Usually if firefox crashes its cos of an extension or faulty setting, _marshall. Failing that downgrade or upgrade your ff version
[05:37] <MatthewV> anon1872, i think those options are there in breezy too
[05:37] <Leafw> yahn : most network-knowledgeable guys in the entire irc.
[05:37] <anon1872> nope
[05:38] <anon1872> power management isnt there
[05:38] <MatthewV> anon1872, or are yo uin kde?
[05:38] <_marshall> hiffy: ohh
[05:38] <anon1872> gnome
[05:38] <_marshall> hiffy: would it be the same if i just uninstalled extensions?
[05:38] <lauri> I need a progra to use in Linux tuat substitute CorelDraw. does anyone know anything about that?
[05:38] <agro1986> ...
[05:38] <MatthewV> anon1872, oh ok.... not sure then
[05:38] <hiffy> _marshall: no idea. New profile = easy and recomendable.
[05:38] <_marshall> hiffy: lol ok
[05:38] <ryan_naruto> help ive restarted my system my ubuntu can still recognize my usb drive
[05:38] <hiffy> _marshall: at worse you copy over your bookmarks and history file
[05:38] <mrbigstuff> anywho knows how to install java?
[05:39] <GaiaX11> When I boot the system, a blue horrible kubuntu process booting runs. I'd like to change that. So, how do I do it?
[05:39] <ardchoille> !java
[05:39] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:39] <anon1872> i want to remove the password completely so i dont have to type it in everytime i close the lid
[05:39] <anon1872> and make it hibernate when i close it instead
[05:39] <anon1872> i've done it before i just cant remember how
[05:39] <lauri> help, I need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:39] <bimberi> !java
[05:39] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:39] <anon1872> and i'm getting no where on the boards
[05:41] <MTecknology> Does anybody in here know of a good PS2 emulator for windows, or one in developement I could use?
[05:41] <Dial_tone> man, a lot of sites are moving to flash 9 in a hurry. this is going to be a problem
[05:41] <majorTool> anybody know if there is a programmers channel where I could find some help with opengl and glut?
[05:41] <lauri> is there any program like CORELDRAW to work in LINUX?
[05:42] <kyncani> lauri: gimp ?
[05:42] <Jimbo2006> lauri: your question was answered b4. For vector grafix, Inkscape
[05:43] <goatmale> !ubuntu
[05:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[05:43] <goatmale> !irc
[05:43] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[05:43] <goatmale> -_-
[05:43] <goatmale> !offtopic
[05:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:44] <Ackeubu_> hey my gnome is scr3wed up.. i dont get a frame for my windows. would it be the window manager that is broken?
[05:44] <lauri> Jimbo2006. thanks a lot.
[05:44] <ardchoille> Ackeubu_: That sounds like a window manager (Metacity) problem
[05:46] <snoop> what happens when you get this error message, how do you fix it
[05:46] <snoop> Cache fill: 0.20% (1068 bytes)
[05:46] <snoop> Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
[05:47] <snoop> this error message is coming from mplayer when i try to stream live video from the command line
[05:47] <rr72> is anyine getting a signal 11 on kdm or is it just me?
[05:48] <snoop> err, receive streaming video from the command line i should say
[05:48] <_azrael> snoop: I don't know what your specific problem is, but the error you mentioned refers to being unable to find the codec to decode video.
[05:49] <_azrael> snoop: Without knowing what kind of media stream it is, I don't know what codec you're looking for.
[05:49] <snoop> azrael: this thread explains more http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=117614
[05:50] <Jimbo2006> Lauri I have fished out a linux magazine, some more vector graphics editors are XFIG, DIA, KARBON14, OPENOFFICE.ORG DRAW, SKETSA, GLIPS GRAFFITI and SKENCIL
[05:51] <jmworx> What's x-session-manager supposed to do exactly and why is it leaking memory like crazy?
[05:51] <_azrael> snoop: 2 things: 1.) Is your mplayer manual or apt-get? 2.) Are the win32 codecs manual or apt-get?
[05:51] <tgarza> hiffy: I ran the instruction four times...and the system displayed this messages [1]  5172, [1]  4955, [1]  4955, [1]  4932 respectively, before crashing...the second time mentioned something about an error report tool...but i did not show any more information
[05:51] <ardchoille> Jimbo2006: Interesting, I didn't know DIA handled vector graphics.
[05:52] <rr72> is anyone having trouble with kdm and signal 11?
[05:52] <Jimbo2006> Similar to Windows Visio is DIA, Laurie
[05:54] <sethk> rr72, not at the moment.  when are you seeing SEGV?
[05:54] <rr72> SEGV?
[05:54] <sethk> kivio is closer to visio than dia, although both are good progs
[05:55] <sethk> rr72, 11 is sigsegv
[05:55] <snoop> azreal: both manual
[05:55] <tgarza> I am new to ubuntu...the system crashes every time I try to run the open office apps...any advice on how to identify what is the problem?
[05:55] <rr72> when i look at the log
[05:56] <_azrael> snoop: Did you specify to turn on the win32 codecs in the ./configure? If not, I'll look up the switch.
[05:56] <sethk> tgarza, I would start by renaming $HOME/.openOffice.org2, and starting the open office app again
[05:56] <_azrael> snoop: Also, mplayer has to be compiled _after_ putting the codecs into the correct location to make them work right.
[05:56] <sethk> tgarza, renaming, not deleting, because you may want info that is in there, and the problem may be elsewhere
[05:56] <Ryugi> does anyone here use a laptop for software development
[05:57] <snoop> azrael: ok let me try again
[05:57] <sethk> rr72, you are viewing the log and getting sigsegv (11)?
[05:57] <sethk> Ryugi, I do, yes, why?
[05:57] <rr72> in the log it says 11
[05:57] <snoop> thanks for the info, i'll come back tommorow to give you the news
[05:57] <_azrael> snoop: Make sure to put the flag on ./configure or it might end up a waste.
[05:57] <Ryugi> i just wanted to know
[05:57] <rr72> Fatal server error:         Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
[05:57] <Sir_Brizz> is it a problem when dmesg has a line that says something about a PCI cards PIRQ not matching something?
[05:58] <tgarza> sethk: any tips on how to do that...sorry, I am new to linux also
[05:58] <sethk> rr72, what's kdm doing when this occurs, do you know?
[05:58] <MojoRison> can anyone help me find a program that will let me partition my hd to do a dual boot to ubuntu or windows?  am currently running ubuntu
[05:58] <mutantix> hola alguien que hable espaol por favor????
[05:58] <ardchoille> MojoRison: gparted ?
[05:58] <sethk> tgarza, cd to $HOME (/home/you), then do:     mv .openOffice.org2 original.openOffice.org2       (the second name is arbitrary, you don't have to type long names like that)
[05:58] <joejaxx> !es
[05:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:58] <ardchoille> !es > mutantix
[05:59] <MojoRison> tried qparted......says no devices found
[05:59] <GuardianAtomos> Anyone here get freenx working in Dapper?
[05:59] <joemauch> hi, ubuntu livecd won't recognize my raid, i have a nforce2, can someone help?
[05:59] <rr72> sethk~ on bootup nothing happens so i have to type sudo kdm and then nvidia screen and it goes black
[05:59] <_azrael> MojoRison: Try sudo qparted
[05:59] <sethk> tgarza, if you cd to $HOME, then do     mv .openO<tab>     the shell will fill in the rest of the name for you.  saves typing.
[05:59] <snoops> does anyone know if some daemon/tool exists which works like piping it to grep eg ps -A | grep gnome but instead of displaying the results of the search to you, it pastes them to a pastebin service, which then gives it a url, and shows you that url in terminal?
[05:59] <roostishaw> anyone, what command can i use to bring up the wallpaper settings in gnome?
[06:00] <_azrael> Rosstishaw: Right click on the desktop, change wallpaper should be an option.
[06:00] <mutantix> hola alguien que hable espaol por favor????
[06:00] <rr72> snoops~ make one :)
[06:00] <snoops> rr72 oh I want to! :)
[06:00] <sethk> rr72, haven't seen that.  To troubleshoot it I would modify ulimit to force it to produce a core file and find out what's happening from the core file.  But that takes a lot of understanding of what's happening in the program.
[06:00] <MojoRison> right on.....thanks azrael
[06:00] <Sir_Brizz> !tell mutatix about es
[06:00] <Sir_Brizz> !tell mutantix about es
[06:00] <sethk> rr72, the easy solution is to use gdm instead of kdm
[06:00] <dscherba> roostishaw: also, gnome-background-properties from the command line
[06:01] <sethk> rr72, gdm will start KDE for you, just as kdm can start gnome foryou.
[06:01] <snoops> rr72 just asking because I haven't heard of a tool like that, but that doesn't mean it already exists
[06:01] <snoops> it doesn't already exist*
[06:01] <rr72> then don't i need to install gubuntu?
[06:01] <Carrig4n> Hey guys, I mounted a ntfs partition in the console and I can access it as the root and see the files using ls in it, but when I try accessing it as my user name I get a permission error. I don't know too much about chmod, maybe someone could help me?
[06:02] <sethk> rr72, I don't think so, no.
[06:02] <bimberi> roostishaw: gnome-background-properties
[06:02] <sethk> Carrig4n, chmod won't fix that problem
[06:02] <Carrig4n> What is it then?
[06:02] <sethk> Carrig4n, you need to look at the uid= and gid= mount options for ntfs file systems
[06:03] <roostishaw> dscherba & bimberi, thank you!
[06:03] <sethk> Carrig4n, man mount has the info.  it is something like:   mount -t ntfs options=uid=1000,gid=1000 .....      .... being the rest of the mount command
[06:03] <Carrig4n> sethk, do you know a site that could go over this?
[06:03] <Carrig4n> ahh ok
[06:03] <MAssacration> hi
[06:03] <sethk> Carrig4n, I don't recall it, but there is one.  Anyone have that url?
[06:03] <Carrig4n> let me try
[06:03] <[Ex0r] > where do I go to setup game controllers for linux?
[06:03] <tgarza> sethk: I checked the path /home/tgarza using the file browser...and I don't have any .openoffice folder there
[06:04] <tgarza> sethk: Should I look somewhere else
[06:04] <Lakai> Hi! I've got a quick question if anyone is willing to answer.
[06:04] <sethk> tgarza, possibly you didn't set "show hidden files" in your file browser?
[06:04] <sethk> tgarza, it is so much easier to use the command line.
[06:04] <Carrig4n> sethk, that command you gave didn't seem to work
[06:04] <_azrael> Lakai: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[06:05] <sethk> Carrig4n, I didn't give you a command.  I said it is "something like" that, and to look at man mount for the exact syntax
[06:05] <Lakai> I just downloaded Azureus from the website in tar.gz form. I extracted it, of course. Now, I'm not sure how to install it
[06:05] <_azrael> Lakai: If you're on ubuntu, why not just sudo apt-get install azureus?
[06:05] <[Ex0r] > where do I go to setup game controllers for linux?
[06:05] <Lakai> There is an Azureus file with no extension and an azureus2.jar file
[06:05] <rr72> read the INSTALL or README file
[06:05] <Lakai> Because I tried that
[06:05] <Lakai> It didn't work
[06:05] <sethk> Carrig4n, ilet me find an example for you
[06:05] <Carrig4n> sethk: ok, thank you
[06:05] <ardchoille> Lakai: Are you aware that azureus is in the repos?
[06:06] <Lakai> 3. Start Azureus by running the script named 'azureus'; ex. "./azureus"
[06:06] <jbroome> and that the repos are back up
[06:06] <Lakai> I'm on Warty Warthog, if that makes a difference
[06:06] <Lakai> So whould that step I posted...
[06:06] <Lakai> mean just double click the 'Azureus' file?
[06:06] <Sir_Brizz> Azureus doens't work properly in Dapper
[06:06] <Lakai> Becaus I tried that and nothing happened.
[06:07] <Sir_Brizz> you have to get the latest unstable jar
[06:07] <goatmale> use automatix
[06:07] <_azrael> Sir_Brizz: Not true. I just launched an azureus I got out of the repos, and I'm running dapper.
[06:07] <Lakai> Automatix does not support Warty Warthog
[06:07] <Sir_Brizz> _al_, maybe they fixed it in the repo per my howto thread
[06:07] <sethk> Carrig4n, try  mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever
[06:07] <Lakai> Which I'm using
[06:08] <sethk> Carrig4n, use the id command to check your uid and gid (don't just use 1000)
[06:08] <Sir_Brizz> _azrael: I meant you
[06:08] <Lakai> I tried simply installing bittorrent. It says, according to the Synaptic manager, that bittorrent is installed, but when I go to open the .torrent file it says there isn't a program that can open it.
[06:08] <sethk> Carrig4n, and of course replace /mnt/whatever with an actual mount point, and change /dev/hda1 to something else if your ntfs partition isn't hda1
[06:08] <Lakai> BitTorrent also isn't in my applications drop down menu
[06:08] <[Ex0r] > I take it nobody knows
[06:08] <goatmale> lakao why don't you update ubuntu
[06:08] <ismael_> adfadfadfadfadf
[06:08] <ismael_> adf
[06:08] <ismael_> f
[06:08] <Lakai> That's what I am trying to do!
[06:08] <ismael_> f
[06:08] <Lakai> lol
[06:09] <hiffy> Lakai: install azureus. 'tis different than plain bittorrent
[06:09] <ismael_>  hola
[06:09] <ismael_> hoa}go
[06:09] <Lakai> Yes, but I can't!
[06:09] <Lakai> 3. Start Azureus by running the script named 'azureus'; ex. "./azureus"
[06:09] <Lakai> that's what it says to do
[06:09] <hiffy> okay
[06:09] <ismael_> but you can
[06:09] <_azrael> And what happens when you try this?
[06:09] <hiffy> and whats wrong with that
[06:09] <Lakai> I take it that means just open the 'Azureus' file
[06:09] <Lakai> but nothing happens whne I do
[06:09] <_azrael> Yes.
[06:09] <[Ex0r] > !controller
[06:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about controller - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:09] <ismael_> go way
[06:09] <ismael_> fast
[06:09] <ismael_> and Rightnow
[06:09] <ismael_> ok
[06:09] <hiffy> in a terminal just type azureus. that should do it too
[06:09] <ardchoille> ismael_: Please be respectful
[06:09] <_azrael> Lakai: Type in java at the console, and see if it finds anything
[06:09] <Lakai> That does nothing. I've tried, hiffy lol
[06:10] <Lakai> ok az
[06:10] <Lakai> thanks
[06:10] <Lakai> brb
[06:10] <ismael_> forget
[06:10] <ismael_> ah
[06:10] <ismael_> wha
[06:10] <ismael_> es
[06:10] <ismael_> ye
[06:10] <hiffy> well what does it tell you
[06:10] <Carrig4n> sthk: I found the command
[06:10] <ismael_> i have ubuntu
[06:10] <ismael_> too
[06:10] <zcat[1] > is there anything opensource that can open publisher files?
[06:10] <ardchoille> /ignore ismael_
[06:10] <ismael_> and you
[06:10] <Lakai> typed in simply 'java' in terminal
[06:10] <Lakai> nothing found
[06:10] <sethk> Carrig4n, ok.  use -r also
[06:10] <hiffy> ah
[06:10] <tgarza> sethk: the copy is done!
[06:10] <Lakai> sudo java' finds nothing either
[06:10] <sethk> I tried it here, it worked with   -o" uid=1000,gid=1000"
[06:10] <sethk> tgarza, good.
[06:11] <hiffy> lakai, have you a jdk installed?
[06:11] <sethk> tgarza, although you didn't need to copy it, you could have simply renamed it.  But copying won't hurt
[06:11] <Lakai> I tried downloading it
[06:11] <Lakai> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand
[06:11] <Carrig4n> ok, for future reference, I used: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 and it worked like a charm
[06:11] <Sir_Brizz> !tell Lakai about java
[06:11] <_azrael> Lakai: You need java. That's why it won't run.
[06:11] <sethk> tgarza, now you have to rename it (or delete the directory)
[06:11] <Lakai> It won't show up in my folder
[06:11] <Lakai> haha
[06:11] <tgarza> sethk: it is renamed also
[06:11] <Sir_Brizz> you have to have Sun Java
[06:11] <damnhil> j-linux: I got "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary." from fdisk. Do you know what's wrong there?
[06:12] <sethk> tgarza, ok, now try to start an oo app, see if the behavior changes
[06:12] <zcat[1] > damnhil: windows created it.
[06:12] <tgarza> sethk: ok
[06:12] <damnhil> zcat[1] : Weird. I ghost Windows partition and install ubuntu later. How can I fix it?
[06:13] <Carrig4n> Ok I'm out, thanks for the help seth
[06:13] <sethk> Carrig4n, np
[06:13] <Lakai> Hmmmm, for some reason Java didn't show up in Synaptic before. Now it is.
[06:13] <Lakai> Odd
[06:13] <knapper> Ick, xchat-gnome is horrible.
[06:13] <sethk> damnhil, don't necessarily have to fix it
[06:13] <Carrig4n> See you around
[06:13] <sethk> damnhil, I believe it's just a warning
[06:13] <zcat[1] > damnhil: I -think- you can just ignore it, but I'm not certain.
[06:13] <dorbenha> 
[06:14] <damnhil> zcat[1] : let me test something first. Do I need rootnoverify for my windows ME?
[06:14] <damnhil> zcat[1] : I meant in grub.conf
[06:14] <Lakai> Well
[06:14] <Lakai> It says I installed java
[06:14] <Lakai> No java =\
[06:14] <zcat[1] > damnhil: No idea. The ubuntu installer will normally configure dual-boot for you if it detects another operating system
[06:15] <_azrael> Lakai: If you upgraded to dapper, you could always try the easyubuntu script for java.
[06:15] <Lakai> See, that's the thing
[06:15] <Lakai> I'm doing this so I can Torrent Dapper
[06:15] <zcat[1] > last time I ran a dual boot system it was debian + freebsd.. I haven't used windows for quite a while.
[06:15] <Lakai> For some reason regular browser file transfer is fairly slow for me
[06:15] <gnomefreak> anyone happen to have the command handy to check to see if you are connecting through proxy?
[06:15] <Lakai> 60 KBps
[06:16] <Lakai> That's why I'm torrenting if I can. I get upwards to 200 KBps
[06:16] <_azrael> Rest of the channel--correct me if I'm wrong, but apt-get dist-upgrade will also upgrade Lakai to dapper, right?
[06:16] <rbond> Hi, I have been browsing the ubuntu forums and I am trying to get my rear speakers working with mp3s. I am looking for Kmix and ALSA mixer option "duplicate front". However that option is not present. Is there something that needs to be installed in order to enable that feature
[06:16] <bruenig> _azrael, should but some like fresh install
[06:16] <Lakai> Hmm, this version has caused me nothing but problems for some reason. I mean, I know it's not supported anymore, but it shouldn't be causing this many problems! The last time I tried Ubuntu (newer version) it was fine for the most part. Just a learning curve
[06:17] <Lakai> But nothing is working this time around
[06:17] <Jimbo2006> gnomefreak - just a guess here - tried netstat in a term?
[06:17] <cmt> anyone know how to make GNOME automatically detect a bluetooth mouse when its in range?
[06:17] <Lakai> Azrael
[06:17] <cmt> like windows or mac os
[06:17] <Lakai> Thank you. No one told me to do that yet, forums or elsewhere
[06:17] <Lakai> I KNEW there would be a terminal command for that
[06:17] <_azrael> Lakai: OK, good luck then. It'll take a while though, as a warning.
[06:18] <gnomefreak> Jimbo2006: nothte one i was looking for but ty
[06:18] <Lakai> Heh, I'm used to slow downloads
[06:18] <Lakai> Don't worry, I'm fairly patient
[06:18] <_bbandit> dist-upgrades can quite often fail though
[06:18] <Lakai> Hell, I even read the manuals most of the time haha
[06:18] <Lakai> :P
[06:19] <Lakai> 7% :) not going as slowly as I thought
[06:19] <rbond> Has anyone ever tried this "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167986&highlight=ch40dup" for setting up surround for playing Mp3's on Ubuntu
[06:20] <cmt> anyone know how to make GNOME automatically detect a bluetooth mouse when its in range?
[06:20] <rbond> I have tried this method and my rear speakers and sub are maxed out in volume, and the sound is independent of the volume control
[06:20] <rr72> keep running a script
[06:21] <rr72> then when it detects it run somin else and when it leaves start the script again?
[06:21] <cmt> rr72: theres gotta be a cleaner way though.... thatll kill the CPU
[06:22] <bll3r> hello everyone
[06:22] <_azrael> cmt: Won't kill the CPU if you put a long enough sleep statement in.
[06:22] <zcat[1] > is there anything opensource that can open publisher files?
[06:22] <[Ex0r] > Anyone here know where in ubuntu you configure game controllers?
[06:23] <Lord_Athur> how could i be sure that all my installed programs are in my language? can I do it?
[06:23] <cmt> _azrael:   then the trade off is that the mouse isnt detected as quickly.... even windows can detect a mouse when its in range
[06:23] <Viper_714> does anyone here have a Machspeed P4m800 motherboard?
[06:24] <VegaObscura> Matthew are you still here?
[06:24] <Viper_714> I think it is similar to Biostar P4M80-M4
[06:24] <_azrael> cmt: Sorry, don't know anything about bluetooth, just scripts.
[06:25] <bll3r> hey what is the command in terminal to see what kernal your running
[06:25] <wims> VegaObscura,  i don't think he is. did you get wine to work ?
[06:25] <cmt> bll3r: uname -r
[06:25] <rr72> bll3r~ uname
[06:25] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, i'm here
[06:25] <Jimbo2006> uname -r
[06:25] <bll3r> oh ok
[06:25] <bll3r> thank you
[06:25] <VegaObscura> yes i got wine to work a long time ago, and asked a few questions after htat
[06:25] <VegaObscura> hello matt!
[06:25] <VegaObscura> i have installed windows, booted to the liveCD, and forgot what the command was
[06:25] <wims> aha
[06:25] <VegaObscura> can you give it to me again?
[06:25] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, just yell MatthewV to get my attention
[06:26] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, just do a chroot /dev/<ubuntu_partition>
[06:26] <bll3r> haha yea i just got my tv tuner card to work ,thats the only reason i ever switched over to the MS side
[06:26] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, so if ubuntu is first partition first hard drive, that'd be /dev/hda0
[06:26] <cmt> MatthewV: no, hda1
[06:26] <Viper_714> Having problem initializing the onboard network adapter
[06:26] <VegaObscura> how do i find out which partition number is ubuntu?
[06:26] <cmt> VegaObscura:  type mount
[06:26] <dirty2004> i'm a noob and i need help installing libqt3-mt
[06:27] <[Ex0r] > VegaObscura- type mount, or nano fstab
[06:27] <[Ex0r] > nano /etc/fstab
[06:27] <MatthewV> cmt oops
[06:27] <soop> k, anyone keen enough to tell me how I can stop typing xrandr -s 12 everytime x restarts?
[06:27] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, do a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:28] <soop> wouldn't that be a wonderful way to do things
[06:28] <MatthewV> that will list all partitions on the hard drive
[06:28] <soop> oh great oracle ... fix my issue
[06:28] <MatthewV> soop, maybe something in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:28] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, usually you want the biggest partition with an id of 83
[06:29] <dirty2004> can someone help me install opera...my problem is that the dependency is not satifiable: libqt3-mt and i have no clue how to install QT version 3
[06:29] <VegaObscura> well im pretty sure that i know which partition it is when i see it in file browser, but i dont know its number
[06:29] <VegaObscura> in the computer folder, its listed first
[06:29] <soop> MatthewV: i thought as much, but what, where how and who. I betcha that guy knows
[06:29] <VegaObscura> so does that make it hda1?
[06:29] <polpak> !info libqt3-mt
[06:29] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In repository main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3078 kB, installed size 8728 kB
[06:30] <polpak> dirty2004: it's in the repositories, just install it
[06:30] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, no.. sry.. does sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda help?
[06:30] <dirty2004> the what?
[06:30] <polpak> dirty2004: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[06:30] <phaedrus44> what is i have a .cue and a .bin   what is the best way to burn these
[06:30] <phaedrus44> ?
[06:30] <_azrael> phaedrus44: cdrecord
[06:30] <Tlo> I can't locate my S-ATA drive. Can anyone help me out?
[06:30] <dirty2004> yeah tied that
[06:30] <dirty2004> got an error
[06:30] <VegaObscura> okay only one of htem has id 83
[06:30] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, what's the device?
[06:30] <polpak> dirty2004: what was the error?
[06:31] <MatthewV> first column?
[06:31] <VegaObscura>  /dev/hda2
[06:31] <dirty2004> Package libqt3-mt has no installation candidate
[06:31] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, so run 'sudo chroot /dev/hda2'
[06:31] <dirty2004> thats what i got
[06:31] <rr72> hda? ha i use sda
[06:31] <VegaObscura> it says 'not a directory'
[06:31] <rr72> but its messed up right now
[06:32] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, oopss... just a moment i know what to do
[06:32] <phaedrus44> _azrael  what is the command?
[06:32] <dirty2004> Package libqt3-mt is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:32] <dirty2004> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:32] <dirty2004> is only available from another source...this is what keeps happening
[06:32] <Lord_Athur> I use kubuntu + edubuntu-desktop, but some sub-menus of the edubuntu programs are in English in the kde menu,How do I make an specification in launchpad about it in order to show that the language of the menu application is the wrong one?
[06:33] <highphilosopher> can you give a specific example of one program?
[06:34] <dirty2004> any know where i can get help...this is has been kicking my ass for a while
[06:34] <highphilosopher> What is the problem?
[06:34] <dirty2004> cant install libqt3-mt
[06:34] <sethk> dirty2004, libqt3-mt is an underlying library for kde
[06:34] <dirty2004> i tried sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[06:34] <dirty2004> meaning?
[06:34] <sethk> dirty2004, do a search in synaptic for libqt3
[06:35] <dirty2004> keep in mind i having using ubuntu for 3 days...i'm a newbie
[06:35] <cmt> heres one i havent been able to solve.  i use a vesa framebuffer and HW accereated graphics drivers (fglrx).  any time DRI is turned on, the framebuffer gets scrambled into junk.  anyone have a suggestion
[06:35] <sethk> dirty2004, meaning that it isn't obscure and it shouldn't be hard to find
[06:35] <dirty2004> tried that too...for some reason that doesnt show up..i have variations of libqt but not that same name
[06:35] <sethk> dirty2004, dirty2004 odd.  I just did it in mine and libqt3 comes up
[06:36] <paloyme> can anybody help me with firefox? cant seem to browse a site that requires ie
[06:36] <VegaObscura> duh lol
[06:36] <sethk> dirty2004, including specifically libqt3-mt.  and I have only the standard repository setup
[06:36] <highphilosopher> paloyme there is a firefox extension to change your User Agent
[06:36] <sethk> dirty2004, might need to update your repository database
[06:36] <VegaObscura> if it REQUIRES IE then FF probably wont work <<;
[06:36] <highphilosopher> paloyme google for "firefox extension user agent"
[06:36] <ketsugi> Any GTKPod users here?
[06:37] <dirty2004> ok well it showed up....didnt know y it wqsnt showing up last time...
[06:37] <dirty2004> thanks
[06:37] <paloyme> thanks hp
[06:37] <highphilosopher> np
[06:37] <ketsugi> I made a new script for syncing but gtkPod doesn't seem to be calling it.
[06:38] <ahlongxp> hunmr:
[06:38] <m3talc0re> i keep trying to install the latest nvidia drivers on ubuntu 6.06
[06:38] <Dial_tone> man it's hot
[06:38] <m3talc0re> but it tells me this:
[06:38] <m3talc0re> ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[06:38] <m3talc0re>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[06:38] <m3talc0re>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[06:38] <highphilosopher> Id?
[06:39] <m3talc0re> i dunno
[06:39] <_azrael> highphilosopher: LD (lowercase) it's the linker
[06:39] <sethk> m3talc0re, did you install build-essentials?
[06:39] <highphilosopher> ohh gotcha :)
[06:39] <m3talc0re> i have no idea
[06:39] <sethk> m3talc0re, probably not.  ld is part of the compiler.
[06:39] <ketsugi> oh hokay, it's working now
[06:39] <sethk> m3talc0re, so install build-essential
[06:39] <cmt> heres one i havent been able to solve.  i use a vesa framebuffer and HW accereated graphics drivers (fglrx).  any time DRI is turned on, the framebuffer gets scrambled into junk.  anyone have a suggestion
[06:40] <roostishaw> anyone, how would i go about making a livecd of how my setup is now?
[06:40] <m3talc0re> where do i get it from to install sethk?
[06:41] <sethk> m3talc0re, apt-get will find it for you
[06:41] <VegaObscura> MatthewV you still there?
[06:41] <sethk> m3talc0re, just do   apt-get install build-essential
[06:41] <sethk> m3talc0re, let me double check the name ...
[06:41] <m3talc0re> aight, thanks
[06:41] <highphilosopher> roostishaw did not know that was possible with Ubuntu...
[06:41] <roostishaw> me neither
[06:42] <cmt> i t would be nice though
[06:42] <roostishaw> ...is it? thats what im asking
[06:42] <roostishaw> yea, if you can
[06:42] <Jimbo2006> Making a DVD would be less of an ask
[06:42] <sethk> m3talc0re, yes, it's build-essential.  Use synaptic, or do   sudo apt-get install build-essential      from the command line
[06:42] <m3talc0re> ah
[06:42] <bimberi> !customlivecd
[06:42] <m3talc0re> i put essentials
[06:42] <ubotu> Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomization
[06:42] <m3talc0re> it wouldn't find it, lol
[06:42] <bimberi> (not quite what you mean i realise)
[06:42] <sethk> roostishaw, it's possible, but it isn't trivial
[06:43] <roostishaw> sethk, do you know how?
[06:43] <rr72> anyone know why kdm would just start to terminate from a signal 11?
[06:43] <highphilosopher> roostishaw check it out... http://wiki.oss-watch.ac.uk/UbuntuDapper/Remaster
[06:43] <DragonLord> ok
[06:43] <highphilosopher> I just found this on google
[06:43] <DragonLord> quick question plz
[06:43] <DragonLord> ubuntu
[06:43] <roostishaw> hmm... i couldn't find anyting
[06:43] <sethk> roostishaw, I've done it, but it was several months ago and I don't remember the details off the top of my head
[06:43] <highphilosopher> rr72 signal 11 is horizontal or vertical sync out of range
[06:43] <DragonLord> I seem to have forgotten my admin password
[06:44] <MikeyMike-Window> im unbanned!
[06:44] <MikeyMike-Window> thank god
[06:44] <sethk> roostishaw, look at the isolinux package.
[06:44] <DragonLord> is there a limit to the number of times a bad pass can be entered in ubuntu?
[06:44] <rr72> highphilosopher~ its a sgmentation error
[06:44] <_azrael> DragonLord: No.
[06:44] <DragonLord> ok
[06:44] <DragonLord> I'm sure I can figure it
[06:44] <MikeyMike-Window> how long was i banned for?
[06:44] <_azrael> DragonLord: If you've forgotten your admin password, you can always do this:
[06:44] <nicholaspaul> Are the repos down?
[06:44] <dirty2004> DL i think there is a way to boot in single user mode and change the password
[06:44] <nicholaspaul> (sorry if 8000 people have already asked...)
[06:45] <rr72> highphilosopher~ and now i screwed up my nvidia driver and xorg hates it
[06:45] <dirty2004> you can do it if you dont have your bootloader password protected
[06:45] <_azrael> DragonLord: 1.) Boot into any livecd that has mount and chroot capability (your installer disk should work for this)
[06:45] <dirty2004> that too
[06:45] <highphilosopher> rr71~ what is your graphics card
[06:45] <sethk> DragonLord, you can boot a live cd, or the install cd in rescue mode
[06:45] <_azrael> DragonLord: 2.) Mount your ubuntu partition somewhere.
[06:45] <_azrael> 3.) execute chroot /path/to/ubuntu /bin/bash
[06:45] <DragonLord> ok
[06:45] <DragonLord> well
[06:45] <_azrael> DragonLord: 4.) execute passwd user
[06:46] <sethk> not necessary to do the mount and chroot that way.  Simply edit /etc/passwd and take out the password for root
[06:46] <DragonLord> I am pretty sure Iwill figure it
[06:46] <nicholaspaul> Has anyone else had probs with the repos?
[06:46] <sethk> sethk, then restart the system and set the password
[06:46] <DragonLord> I just don wannalock up the computer like windows does after three bad password
[06:46] <bimberi> DragonLord: or boot into recovery mode and do 4.
[06:46] <netherworld> Hi! There is a new server in the net ftp://all:q1w2e3@netherworld.is-a-geek.net:5000 if you like it, please consider uploading any related and relevant material.
[06:46] <highphilosopher> Dragonlord I think you can simply sudo passwd
[06:46] <sethk> DragonLord, you can always boot the cd, it's independent of anything on your hard drive
[06:46] <Jimbo2006> not here nicholaspaul but I'm in NZ - d/ling now
[06:46] <m3talc0re> brb in a min hopefully
[06:46] <DragonLord> ok
[06:47] <_azrael> highphilosopher: I'm assuming he doesn't have any passwords.
[06:47] <m3talc0re> hey, is there an easy way to exit x server so i can install the driver?
[06:47] <nicholaspaul> Jimbo2006: thx - thats good to know
[06:47] <highphilosopher> _azrael possibly...
[06:47] <_azrael> m3talc0re: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:47] <_azrael> m3talc0re: Then, ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:47] <_azrael> When you're done re-installing a driver, /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:48] <sethk> m3talc0re, or you can do  init 1
[06:48] <VegaObscura> MatthewV
[06:48] <highphilosopher> @netherworld
[06:48] <dirty2004> ne one got a way to install gcc
[06:48] <VegaObscura> I think matt suddenly fell off the side of the earth =(
[06:48] <rr72> who can help me tomorrow?
[06:48] <dirty2004> appearantly mine is not updated
[06:48] <bruenig> !info gcc
[06:48] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:48] <roostishaw> sethk, im not sure thats what im looking for... i want to "clone" my current setup, and put it on a live cd.
[06:48] <bimberi> dirty2004: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:48] <bruenig> apt-get install gcc
[06:48] <rr72> im going to bed
[06:49] <m3talc0re> aight, thanks again and lemme give this a shot
[06:49] <dirty2004> event not found for !info gcc
[06:49] <VegaObscura> can someone else help me with changing my boot partition?
[06:49] <sethk> roostishaw, I know
[06:49] <rob138> hi, is there anything better than gaim regarding file transfers for IM
[06:49] <highphilosopher> VegaObscure changing it how?
[06:49] <VegaObscura> when i enter sudo chroot /dev/hda2, it gives me the error 'not a directory'
[06:49] <dirty2004> and i am trying to download a ftp client so i can download latest version of gcc
[06:50] <ryan_naruto> how do i manually mount my usb drive???
[06:50] <roostishaw> sethk, do you know how i could "clone" my current setup onto a live cd?
[06:50] <VegaObscura> i mean setting a certain partition to boot
[06:50] <bruenig> !info gftp
[06:50] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[06:50] <sethk> roostishaw, if you mean you want to be able to do it without work and without understanding the underlying configuration mechanisms, I doubt that's possible.
[06:50] <hunmr> yes gftp
[06:50] <bimberi> !ftp
  FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:50] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, sry.... I'll bbl
[06:50] <roostishaw> sethk, who said thats what i wanted?
[06:50] <VegaObscura> there you are... and youre leaving <<;
[06:50] <sethk> roostishaw, you did
[06:50] <VegaObscura> okay well goodbye i guess
[06:50] <dirty2004> dirty@home:~$ sudo apt-get install gcc
[06:50] <bruenig> I really don't see why you dont do either 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' or just 'sudo apt-get install gcc'
[06:50] <dirty2004> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:50] <dirty2004> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:50] <bruenig> but if you insist
[06:50] <dirty2004> this is what i got
[06:50] <sethk> roostishaw, because you said that I pointed you at the wrong tool
[06:50] <roostishaw> sethk, quote it please.
[06:50] <roostishaw> well, you did
[06:50] <dirty2004> how would i know if i am using it
[06:51] <bruenig> dirty2004, do sudo apt-get update and tell me if you get errors
[06:51] <roostishaw> later all
[06:51] <highphilosopher> bye
[06:51] <sethk> roostishaw  im not sure thats what im looking for... i want to "clone" my current setup, and put it on a live cd
[06:51] <bimberi> dirty2004: close synaptic
[06:51] <dirty2004> got this error when i did "sudo apt-get update":E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:51] <dirty2004> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:51] <highphilosopher> dirty2004 close synaptic
[06:52] <bruenig> dirty2004, is synaptic open or the update manager
[06:52] <dirty2004> oh ok thanks HP and bimberi
[06:52] <highphilosopher> :)
[06:52] <nicholaspaul> If I ssh to another machine, how can i copy a file to the local machine?
[06:52] <highphilosopher> nicholaspaul: ftp :)
[06:52] <dirty2004> ok now when i do sudo apt-get install gcc i get this :E: Package gcc has no installation candidate
[06:52] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: use sftp
[06:52] <ttyfscker> Seveas:: how are you doing?
[06:53] <nicholaspaul> bimberi: sftp? Wassat?
[06:53] <sethk> dirty2004, don't do that.   do   apt-get install build-essential
[06:53] <highphilosopher> dirty2004 sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[06:53] <sethk> dirty2004, why do all that extra work?
[06:53] <sethk> highphilosopher, build-essential, not build-essentials
[06:53] <highphilosopher> my bad
[06:53] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: "secure file transfer program"
[06:53] <rr72> sethk~ i need to go to sleep, i will have to redo all kdm and xorg and nvidia drivers tomorrow
[06:53] <highphilosopher> sry for the echo too :)
[06:53] <nicholaspaul> bimberi: oh right, thx.
[06:54] <sethk> rr72, k,
[06:54] <dirty2004> couldnt not find build-essentials
[06:54] <sethk> highphilosopher, :)
[06:54] <bruenig> take off the s dirty
[06:54] <acerunus> hey i was trying to install azureus in terminal and it tried to replace my kernal with a big warning. any ideas?
[06:54] <highphilosopher> rofl
[06:54] <sethk> dirty2004, build-essential, not build-essentials
[06:54] <m3talc0re> well that sucked
[06:54] <dirty2004> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[06:54] <[KvZ] CassiuS> Hi all, hmmm little help, i installed LILO instead of GRUB as a boot loader cuz i couldn't find the way to install GRUB at the raid MBR, now i want to switch to GRUB, is that posible?
[06:54] <bruenig> !info build-essential
[06:54] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:54] <rbond> I have read in various forums about setting up linux for surround system for mp3 playing. I have set the options in .asoundrc in the home directory.  In XMMS I assign the output as ch40dup. What happens is that the volume of the rear speakers is blasted at the maximum rate and strangely if I mute from alsa volume pane, the lous volume is still there
[06:55] <bruenig> dirty2004, you should have that
[06:55] <m3talc0re> how do i view a log file
[06:55] <nicholaspaul> bimberi: what port would i use? Not 21 ?
[06:55] <m3talc0re> so i can tell you what it told me when i tried to install the nvidia driver
[06:55] <DragonLord> qwerty*
[06:55] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: 22
[06:55] <DragonLord> ......
[06:55] <nicholaspaul> cheers!
[06:55] <highphilosopher> dirty2004: have you changed your sources for apt?
[06:55] <dirty2004>  !info build-essential
[06:55] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: (same as ssh)   np :)
[06:55] <ttyfscker> dirty2004:: what are your sources?
[06:55] <dirty2004> bash: !info: event not found
[06:55] <dirty2004> not that i know of
[06:55] <jrattner1> QUESTION: What is a good "wall paper" rotator for gnome in the repos? CHGB doesnt work
[06:55] <dirty2004> have no clue how to check that
[06:55] <bruenig> dirty2004, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:56] <[KvZ] CassiuS> Anyone?
[06:56] <highphilosopher> Cassius yes
[06:56] <bruenig> if you have time and don't mind use copy and paste that in the pastebin and then give us a link
[06:56] <ttyfscker> dirty2004:: cat /etc/apt/sources.list > sources.txt
[06:56] <bruenig> !pastebin
[06:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:56] <ttyfscker> upload the sources.txt file to pastebin
[06:56] <sethk> maybe he has to do the apt-get update  thing?
[06:56] <dirty2004> what am i looking for in the sources list
[06:56] <Dial_tone> what is the command line ide cd burn app?
[06:56] <gmoore> is ca.archive.ubuntu down? i can't update
[06:56] <[KvZ] CassiuS> How can i switch from LILO to GRUB? i installed LILO and now i dont want it
[06:57] <DragonLord> YAY
[06:57] <wims> are there some kinda file i can add additional DNS servers to ?
[06:57] <ttyfscker> dirty do what i told you... cat /etc/apt/sources.list > sources.txt
[06:57] <DragonLord> I found it
[06:57] <bimberi> !grub
[06:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:57] <DragonLord> thanks for your help tho
[06:57] <bruenig> sethk has a good point, dirty2004, do sudo apt-get update and then try again, if that doesn't work then pastebin it
[06:57] <ttyfscker> and paste the sources.txt to pastebin
[06:57] <[KvZ] CassiuS> Thx
[06:57] <m3talc0re> how do i open a log file?
[06:57] <m3talc0re> so i can tell someone in here what happened when i tried to install the nvidia drivers
[06:57] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re: cat <logfilename>
[06:57] <rob138> hi, if i am behind a wireless router, how is it possible to access my computer from the internet?
[06:58] <jrattner1> QUESTION: What is a good "wall paper" rotator for gnome in the repos? CHGB doesnt work
[06:58] <rbond> Question: Did anyone successfully set up surround sound for MP3's in Ubuntu by .asoundrc in the home directory
[06:58] <dirty2004> already did apt-get update
[06:58] <highphilosopher> rob138: check out dyndns.com
[06:58] <sethk> dirty2004, too bad  :)
[06:58] <m3talc0re> too big for here
[06:58] <paloyme> how do you change the default video player in firefox?
[06:58] <paloyme> from totem to vlc?
[06:58] <m3talc0re> what's the page to upload text again?
[06:58] <ttyfscker> dirty2004:: if you will do what i said to do, i can probably help you get it to working.
[06:58] <bruenig> jrattner1, do sudo apt-cache search wallpaper
[06:59] <bruenig> !info wallpaper-tray
[06:59] <ubotu> wallpaper-tray: wallpaper changing utility for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.4.6-3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 184 kB
[06:59] <dirty2004> how do i pastebin it?
[06:59] <jrattner1> bruenig, k thanks
[06:59] <bruenig> that appears to be promising
[06:59] <m3talc0re> Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
[06:59] <ttyfscker> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:59] <rob138> highphilosopher, it's not possible to do something like that without a service like dyndns.com?
[06:59] <bruenig> !pastebin > dirty2004
[06:59] <nicholaspaul> bimberi: i can ssh.. but i cant seem to ftp. It says connected , but isnt connecting. Any ideas?
[06:59] <highphilosopher> m3talcore: did you download the kernel?
[07:00] <rbond> Question: Did anyone successfully set up surround sound for MP3's in Ubuntu by .asoundrc in the home directory
[07:00] <m3talc0re> uhh..
[07:00] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: use sftp as the command
[07:00] <ttyfscker> after you run that command i gave you.. type the command  pwd
[07:00] <m3talc0re> no?
[07:00] <nicholaspaul> bimberi: the host should be sftp://192.xx.xx.xxx ?
[07:00] <ttyfscker> that will tell you where the sources.txt file will be located.. and you can just upload that file to the pastebin
[07:00] <highphilosopher> m3talcore: check out this page http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Kernel_Compilation
[07:01] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: is that in nautilus?
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> bimberi: no, in gftp
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> bimberi:  oh you mean i should type 'sftp <ip>' from the command line?
[07:02] <jrattner1> QUESTION: how do you invoke wall-paper tray
[07:02] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: yes, but try ssh://192.x.x.x
[07:02] <highphilosopher> my it's lively in here tonight
[07:02] <ttyfscker> bimberi:: thats not appropriate syntax for the cli
[07:02] <ryan_naruto> how can i check is my usb ports are working cause its not auto detecting my usb drive
[07:03] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: ftp <ip>
[07:03] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker: okee!
[07:03] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, working?
[07:03] <bimberi> ttyfscker: yes i meant for nicholaspaul to try that in gftp
[07:03] <sethk> ryan_naruto, run dmesg before the drive is inserted.  then insert the drive and run dmesg again.  The stuff at the end of the second listing (that's not in the first listing) is the processing for the usb device.
[07:03] <VegaObscura> sorry im back now
[07:04] <ttyfscker> bimberi:: ok i thought he was trying to use it from the cli.
[07:04] <VegaObscura> did you say something while i was gone, matt?
[07:04] <m3talc0re> gotta do all this just to install new video card drivers?
[07:04] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re Y are you installing the new video drivers?
[07:04] <VegaObscura> i havnt gotten it to work yet, if thats what youre asking
[07:04] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker: bimberi i'm just trying to copy files from an ssh machine to the local one.
[07:04] <m3talc0re> because i'm using the generic ones ubuntu has ?
[07:05] <jmworx> Anyone can explain this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18755
[07:05] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: you need to set up ftp on the local machine..
[07:05] <highphilosopher> m3talcore: are they not working well?
[07:05] <m3talc0re> well, i dunno
[07:05] <jmworx> Top reports 70% CPU being used, my machine is slow, but I can't find any task eating CPU.
[07:05] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker: what do you mean 'set up'?
[07:05] <m3talc0re> so far ubuntu hasn't crashed on me
[07:05] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: ok, open nautilus (the file manager), type CTRL-L and put in sftp://192.xx.xx.xxx
[07:05] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: it would actually work better to just set up ftp on the remote machine that has ssh set up.. and use ftp instead of ssh altogether.
[07:05] <m3talc0re> but it was crashing like every ten minutes
[07:05] <sethk> kinema, anywhere there is lots of space that you have write privileges for
[07:05] <bimberi> ttyfscker: no, not ftp, sftp
[07:05] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re: Honestly I have never had problems with the generic linux drivers
[07:05] <philth> ttyfscker, Best. name. ever.
[07:05] <m3talc0re> probably my buggy ram, but winxp didn't crash that much
[07:06] <sethk> m3talc0re, same here, I've run boh without problems
[07:06] <ttyfscker> philth:: yep i know :)
[07:06] <ryan_naruto>  is the output
[07:06] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: you dont need to use sftp or ssh. unless you just have a shell account on some remote server.
[07:06] <jmworx> Hmm even stranger: top reports X using about 5% CPU, while htop reports that X uses 50% CPU!!
[07:06] <bimberi> nicholaspaul: pick one ;P
[07:06] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re when you say crashed, does it just reboot, or does it give you an error?
[07:06] <m3talc0re> just rebootsd
[07:06] <m3talc0re> reboots*
[07:07] <VegaObscura> jmworx, i had the exact same problem from windows xp a few days ago
[07:07] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: where is the ssh machine located.. is it on a LAN or is it remote?
[07:07] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re: I don't think that will be a graphicew card issue... Usually that is RAM or processor related
[07:07] <m3talc0re> no error, no nothing, it exits ubuntu, lists everything being unloaded and reboots for no appearent reason
[07:07] <VegaObscura> never fixed it, that was one of the reasons i switched to ubuntu
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> bimberi: lol
[07:07] <jmworx> VegaObscura: That explains it. Ubuntu's trying to support all the XP bugs.
[07:07] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, yeah, i asked if you got it working :)
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker: its on a LAN which is why i was ssh'ing, cos then I can sudo if i have to
[07:07] <rob138> can anyone explain how to access my computer which is behind a wireless router?
[07:07] <hunmr> \n
[07:08] <schmakk> can anyone give me a way to show packages that has no dependants installed on the system?
[07:08] <VegaObscura> no i havnt gotten it working yet
[07:08] <VegaObscura> you said you know the problem then suddenly went afk
[07:08] <nicholaspaul> rob138: it involves setting up your router with open Ports
[07:08] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: ok..  then you need to set up www or ftp instead of ssh on that machine
[07:08] <nicholaspaul> rob138: sorry to be vague...
[07:08] <VegaObscura> i love the way ubuntu allows you to dock any window...
[07:08] <rob138> nicholaspaul, is that something i can do from my computer?
[07:08] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker: sudo apt-get install ftp perhaps?
[07:08] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: the easiest way would be sudo apt-get install apache
[07:09] <nicholaspaul> rob138:  if you have access to the router setup, yea.
[07:09] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  oh, ihave apache.
[07:09] <ttyfscker> on the machine that has the files you want
[07:09] <ttyfscker> ?
[07:09] <rob138> nicholaspaul, well it's my router, do i needed to be connected ethernet or can i do it directly?
[07:09] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  yea
[07:09] <nicholaspaul> rob138:  either is fine.
[07:09] <highphilosopher> rob138: what brand and model router?
[07:09] <ttyfscker> ok then start apache.  and ill tell you how to create a symlink to your /var/www
[07:10] <ttyfscker> so you can copy the files from http
[07:10] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  AFAIK its already running
[07:10] <ttyfscker> can you http://localhost
[07:10] <zymorph> I can't login from Windows XP into Samba share on ubuntu comp
[07:10] <zymorph> any ideas?
[07:10] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  yea
[07:10] <rob138> highphilosopher, it's a linksys
[07:10] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: ok then all you need to do is create some symlinks
[07:10] <highphilosopher> rob138: WRT54G?
[07:10] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  i'm all ears
[07:10] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: what directory contains the files you want to copy?
[07:11] <rob138> highphilosopher, one sec, lemme run downstairs and check
[07:11] <highphilosopher> lol
[07:11] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  home
[07:11] <ttyfscker> ok
[07:11] <ttyfscker> sudo ln -s /home/ /var/www/
[07:11] <m3talc0re> gotta love it when someone pm's you saying hey stranger when you can't remember who they are, lol
[07:11] <rob138> highphilosopher, you nailed it
[07:12] <Lakai> ok
[07:12] <zymorph> I can't login from Windows XP into Samba share on ubuntu comp
[07:12] <zymorph> any ideas?
[07:12] <highphilosopher> rob138: ok..... in a web browser goto 192.168.1.1
[07:12] <highphilosopher> rob138: there is no username... and the password is admin :)
[07:12] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: now you should be able to go to http://192.168.x.x/home
[07:12] <Lakai> Hmmm
[07:12] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  trying it now.
[07:12] <prophet> can you write from ubuntu to a NTFS patritioned drive?
[07:12] <zymorph> I setup up Samba by default using apt-get
[07:12] <Lakai> When I download a package from command line
[07:12] <rob138> highphilospher, wow
[07:12] <Lakai> What folder does it go to? Wat's the destination?
[07:13] <Lakai> Like, I just ran 'sudo apt-get update'
[07:13] <highphilosopher> rob138: yeah... you are gonna wanna change that password.
[07:13] <Commander-Crowe> Has anyone gotten dvd movies to work in UBuntu?
[07:13] <zymorph> Lakai: are you talking to me?
[07:13] <paimei> hi!   what's it called when your computer starts out to the same windows each time?      I was testing dapper and there was a "remember windows position" box, but I can't find it now
[07:13] <Lakai> Anyone in general, zy
[07:13] <Lakai> But thanks :P
[07:13] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker: sorry, what was that last http command again?
[07:13] <zymorph> ha :)
[07:13] <rob138> highphilosopher, you'd think that the IT guy who set it up for my mom woulda atleast put the least bit of security in it
[07:14] <highphilosopher> rob138: LOL
[07:14] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[07:14] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: in your web browser, firefox or whatever,  just type http://192.x.x.x/home
[07:14] <highphilosopher> rob138: ok click the applications and gaming link
[07:14] <rob138> highphilosopher, okay
[07:14] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: x.x.x being the actual #s to that machine
[07:14] <prophet> can you write from ubuntu to a NTFS patritioned drive?
[07:15] <highphilosopher> rob138: there you can set whichever external ports you want to point to whatever system on your network you want.
[07:15] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  can i name it something else? Home is used.
[07:15] <m3talc0re> what's the advantages/disadvantages of Ubuntu vs SuSE?
[07:15] <highphilosopher> rob138: now... do you have a static IP or Dynamic?
[07:15] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: yes
[07:15] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i change gnome-terminal's default dimentions?
[07:15] <rob138> highphilosopher, meaning my router's IP?
[07:15] <ttyfscker> sudo ln -s /home/ /var/www/name
[07:16] <highphilosopher> rob138: the IP from your ISP
[07:16] <ttyfscker> sudo ln -s /home/ /var/www/name/
[07:16] <Lakai> What was that command to upgrade from warty 4.10 to dapper6.06?
[07:16] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  so if i had a a symlink to home/Desktop, can i name it 'alan'?
[07:16] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  oh right. THx :)
[07:16] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: what is the absolute path you want to use
[07:16] <roostishaw> Lakai, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:16] <rob138> highphilosopher, is there anyway to check that because i don't know
[07:16] <Lakai> Thank you, sir :)
[07:16] <highphilosopher> rob138: hey I'm losing battery power. basically goto dyndns.com setup a free account... then setup that account in your router.
[07:16] <Lakai> roost
[07:16] <roostishaw> yea?
[07:16] <rob138> highphilosopher, i don't understand what dyndns.com is for?
[07:16] <ttyfscker> i was under the impression you wanted to link the entire home directory as in /home    if you want to link /home/yourusername/Desktop then its different
[07:17] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  its to /media/rothko/
[07:17] <Lakai> how would I go about running it when it's done doiwnloading?
[07:17] <m3talc0re> wtf
[07:17] <rob138> highphilosopher, thanks for your help
[07:17] <m3talc0re> is there a way to preview a screensaver?
[07:17] <prophet> anyone?
[07:17] <highphilosopher> rob138: it let's you point a somain name to your router dynamically so if your IP changes, it still points to your router
[07:17] <ttyfscker> rob138::  dyndns is for you to keep the same domain name when your IP changes
[07:17] <roostishaw> Lakai, i dont know what you mean... are you downloading the live cd?
[07:17] <highphilosopher> rob138: np
[07:17] <Lakai> No, no
[07:17] <Lakai> I'm on 4.10
[07:17] <Lakai> and I want to upgrade to dapper
[07:17] <roostishaw> yes...
[07:17] <roostishaw> Lakai, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:17] <wims> 4.10 !
[07:17] <roostishaw> :D
[07:18] <highphilosopher> so long all
[07:18] <Lakai> simply 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[07:18] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: your wanting to copy files from /media/rothko ?
[07:18] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  yes
[07:18] <Lakai> It's saying there are...
[07:18] <roostishaw> go on...
[07:18] <nicholaspaul> ttyfscker:  which is on the remote machine.
[07:18] <joemauch> hi, ubuntu livecd won't recognize my raid, i have a nforce2, can someone help?
[07:18] <rob138> do i buy domain names from dyndns, or is it for only if i already have one
[07:18] <Lakai> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[07:18] <Lakai> ??
[07:18] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul:: sudo ln -s /media/rothko/ /var/www/rothko/
[07:18] <Lakai> But the last time I tried apt-get dist-upgrade..
[07:18] <roostishaw> Lakai, one sec.
[07:18] <Lakai> it said it failed
[07:18] <wims> dont he have to change repositories to dapper before doing dist-upgrade ?
[07:18] <ttyfscker> nicholaspaul::  then in your browser http://192.x.x.x/rothko/
[07:19] <nicholaspaul> tty perfect! I got it now. Thx ttyfscker
[07:19] <roostishaw> Lakai, edit /etc/apt/sources.list  and change all the references to warty to dapper
[07:19] <ttyfscker> no prob nicholaspaul
[07:19] <roostishaw> Lakai, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:19] <Lakai> roger :)
[07:19] <roostishaw> Lakai, tell me if it works
[07:19] <Lakai> So basically, anything I see "warty"
[07:19] <wims> do an apt-get update before that ;)
[07:19] <Lakai> change to dapper
[07:19] <Lakai> lol
[07:19] <roostishaw> yes
[07:19] <roostishaw> "<wims> do an apt-get update before that ;)"
[07:19] <Lakai> Thanks. Busy for a bit then heh
[07:19] <roostishaw> yep
[07:20] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: sudo sed s/warty/dapper/g /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:20] <rob138> ttyfscker, do i already need a domain name for dyndns.com
[07:20] <bimberi_> Lakai: do you have backups?
[07:21] <ttyfscker> rob138:: i personally like the gnu dip services over dyndns
[07:21] <Lakai> Backups?
[07:21] <ttyfscker> rob138:: but thats up to you.. all you need to do is create an account. and download a client for that service.. and set it to update correctly
[07:22] <Lakai> All i can think of is you meaning backups of m yfiles
[07:22] <Lakai> and I have none on here really. My music, but it's not important
[07:22] <Viper_714> Need help with Netgear FA311 Network card. Can some one please help?
[07:22] <ttyfscker> rob138:: i use dyndns services, but i prefer flexdns.. i use xgdipc from the repos with it
[07:22] <bimberi_> Lakai: um, yes
[07:22] <Lakai> Heh, ok
[07:22] <bimberi_> Lakai: ok
[07:22] <Lakai> so now what, sir?
[07:22] <Lakai> ttyfscker, that is
[07:22] <rob138> ttyfscker, i guess i don't understand, by creating a account, am i creating a domain?
[07:22] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i change gnome-terminal's default dimentions?
[07:22] <Lakai> Just restart my computer?
[07:22] <ttyfscker> rob138:: your creating a subdomain   example.dyndns.org
[07:22] <Commander-Crowe> I can't restart x
[07:23] <m3talc0re> :o
[07:23] <Commander-Crowe> hiw>
[07:23] <Commander-Crowe> how?
[07:23] <rob138> oh
[07:23] <m3talc0re> notepad++ isn't for linux :(
[07:23] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: if the command i gave you worked it should start upgrading.
[07:23] <m3talc0re> anyone know of a good text editor for linux?
[07:23] <kitsuneofdoom> vi
[07:23] <kitsuneofdoom> emacs
[07:23] <Lakai> Yea, and then what?
[07:23] <Lakai> It says it's done everyting
[07:23] <kitsuneofdoom> joe
[07:23] <rob138> ttyfscker, i understand, but how do i check if i have a static or dynamic IP?
[07:23] <ttyfscker> Lakai::  it cant be done with everything
[07:23] <kitsuneofdoom> m3talc0re: there are half a billion
[07:23] <Lakai> ..........
[07:23] <Lakai> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/main Release
[07:23] <Lakai> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/restricted Sources
[07:23] <Lakai> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/restricted Release
[07:23] <Lakai> Reading Package Lists... Done
[07:23] <Lakai> Reading Package Lists... Done
[07:23] <Lakai> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[07:23] <Lakai> Calculating Upgrade... Done
[07:23] <roostishaw> nvm, got it
[07:24] <Lakai> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:24] <Lakai> I tried upgrading earlier, and I think it finished most of it
[07:24] <Lakai> but something at the end errore
[07:24] <Lakai> So maybe most of the important stuff worked
[07:24] <ttyfscker> Lakai::  that is gonna get you kicked.. it didnt change your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <[KvZ] CassiuS> !grub
[07:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:24] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, if your still around.. I'm back at last ;0
[07:24] <ttyfscker> Lakai::  sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <VegaObscura> yes im here
[07:24] <roostishaw> Lakai, check here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87262
[07:24] <kitsuneofdoom> m3talc0re: I suggest either vi or emacs for power, pico for the basics, kate for KDE
[07:25] <ttyfscker> Lakai::  then hit ESC
[07:25] <Viper_714> Need help with Netgear FA311 Network card. Can some one please help?
[07:25] <VegaObscura> i ate chile tonight and i know all about having to leave the comp quickly
[07:25] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: then enter this :s/warty/dapper
[07:25] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, sry to ask again, i've been very busy.... is it working?
[07:25] <VegaObscura> no it isnt working
[07:25] <RaCarter> the best web browser in the world is
[07:25] <Lakai> ttyfscker, it beeped why I hit esc hah
[07:25] <RaCarter> lynx!
[07:25] <Lakai> ok
[07:25] <m3talc0re> i want a good, clean text editor with colored and formatted tags and such
[07:25] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, so ur in the live cd?
[07:25] <VegaObscura> yes
[07:25] <VegaObscura> i have already installed linux
[07:25] <m3talc0re> like notepad++ or acehtml or something
[07:25] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: then hit :s/warty/dapper
[07:25] <VegaObscura> it overwrote the boot code just like expected
[07:25] <VegaObscura> and now its time to reinstall GRUB
[07:26] <VegaObscura> i already know that the partition i want to boot to is hda2
[07:26] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, k.... I'll give you a series of commands via pm
[07:26] <jmworx> WTF's going on. X is using up 50% of my CPU doing nothing -- ON A FRESHLY REBOOTED MACHINE!
[07:26] <Lakai> Ok, nothing is working. I'm going to just go try and get my brother to download the torrent for dapper
[07:26] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: thats not necessary
[07:26] <Lakai> The disc must be faulty or SOMETHING, because a lot of stuff isn't working
[07:27] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: no thats not it
[07:27] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: in vim did you put :s/warty/dapper    ?
[07:27] <Lakai> I know what it is!
[07:27] <Lakai> I'm a moron
[07:27] <Lakai> lol
[07:27] <highphilosopher> rob138: Ok. Back
[07:27] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, if you run all those commands, you should have grub back :)
[07:27] <highphilosopher> Hey...Is anyone in here running on a ppc?
[07:27] <Lakai> What might be vim? All that vim command did was bring up the source.list file
[07:27] <rob138> highphilosopher, hey, how do i check if i have a static IP or dynamic?
[07:27] <Lakai> No more command line
[07:27] <highphilosopher> rob138: who is your ISP?
[07:28] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: yes its the editor.. when you hit ESC in Vim it will put you in command mode..
[07:28] <VegaObscura> MtthewV, the last one gives an error
[07:28] <VegaObscura> it says "Not found or not a block device."
[07:28] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, grub-install?
[07:28] <col-panic> anyone else had any serious dvd playback problems in dapper?
[07:28] <VegaObscura> yes
[07:28] <rob138> highphilosopher, comcast
[07:28] <Lakai> So basically you want me to enter that last command ":s/warty/dapper" in to the top of the new window?
[07:29] <highphilosopher> rob138: DSL I assume?
[07:29] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, hang on half a tick
[07:29] <VegaObscura> okay sure
[07:29] <rob138> highphilosopher, yes it is
[07:29] <ttyfscker> hang on Lakai
[07:29] <VegaObscura> comcast offers DSL? i thought they were cable only
[07:29] <cmug> what was the server shortage about yesterday?
[07:29] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, try prefixing grub-install with sudo
[07:29] <col-panic> every prog I try to play DVDs in dapper with is garbled or crashes, I've downloaded all the dvd stuff in uni/multi too
[07:29] <Lakai> This alone deserves 10 hours of community server when I know what I'm doing in the future :P
[07:30] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, WARNING though..... this will make windows unbootable until we fix that
[07:30] <rob138> highphilosopher, sorry it's SBC
[07:30] <VegaObscura> this time it says:
[07:30] <highphilosopher> rob138: Ok, then you are dynamic if you don't know.
[07:30] <highphilosopher> rob138: same
[07:30] <VegaObscura> 'unable to lookup ubuntu  via gethostbyname()
[07:30] <rob138> highphilosopher, so it's dynamic
[07:30] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, oh, you hadn't fixed that yet?
[07:30] <highphilosopher> rob138: so go to dyndns.com and setup a free account
[07:30] <VegaObscura> i guess not...
[07:30] <col-panic> ....thoguht someone might care, guess I was wrong.
[07:30] <highphilosopher> rob138: yes
[07:31] <Lakai> Quick question, ttyfscker, if you aren't busy:
[07:31] <Lakai> Are you a developer or employee of Ubuntu, or are you a helpful community user?
[07:31] <rob138> highphilosopher, okay, another question, when i go to the administration page, the password in the password box is like 20 astericks long, is that the "admin" password?
[07:31] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, ok.... you got ubuntu install cd around?
[07:31] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i change gnome-terminal's default dimentions?
[07:32] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, is this breezy or dapper?
[07:32] <VegaObscura> dapper
[07:32] <VegaObscura> and the install cd and live cd are the same...
[07:32] <VegaObscura> it installs from the live cd
[07:32] <highphilosopher> rob138: yes
[07:32] <VegaObscura> which im booted from right now
[07:32] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, i don't suppose you would have an 'alternate' cd then?
[07:32] <Viper_714> Need help with Netgear FA311 Network card. Can some one please help?
[07:32] <VegaObscura> i can make one
[07:32] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, no, shouldn't need that.... just a moment.
[07:32] <VegaObscura> if ubuntu has a built in burner
[07:32] <VegaObscura> okay
[07:32] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: what you need to do is replace every instance of warty in your sources.list with dapper   if you want you can use sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and do it by hand
[07:33] <[KvZ] CassiuS> someone here who knows a little about lilo and grub and switching boot loaders can help me in priv msg really fast? it wont take much time, please
[07:33] <garryF> Oh my. Surely ye must know that astarisks are the standard way to hide a password. Passwords are rarely ever shown to you on the screen.
[07:33] <rob138> highphilospher, it's just abnormally long to look decieving instead of 5 astericks?
[07:33] <highphilosopher> rob138: yeah
[07:33] <rob138> highphilospher, heh thanks, just making sure
[07:33] <Lakai> ttyfscker:: at the top where it says warty warthog, must I change the entire thing to 'dapper drake'?
[07:33] <highphilosopher> rob138: In fact I think it is always the same number, whether longer or shorter
[07:33] <garryF> Google grubfarm they got a plethora of info on recovery using grub.
[07:33] <rob138> okay
[07:34] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: no thats in the commented part.. Lakai  here if your dcc works i will send you a dapper sources.list
[07:35] <highphilosopher> rob138: crap... it's not dyndns.com, it's dyndns.org
[07:35] <rob138> highphilosopher, lol, crap is right : )
[07:35] <highphilosopher> rob138: :)
[07:35] <Lakai> Ok DCC is up
[07:35] <Lakai> I tried using gedit but the content in the source file wouldn't delete
[07:35] <rob138> highphilosopher, .org redirects to .com ...
[07:35] <Lakai> Therefore I couldn't replace it =\
[07:36] <highphilosopher> rob138: O
[07:36] <lunatic> how do I install nvidia drivers
[07:36] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: you have to sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:36] <lunatic> can someone send me a link?
[07:36] <Lakai> Thank you
[07:36] <bimberi_> !nvidia
[07:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:36] <rob138> highphilosopher, is that the right site?
[07:36] <highphilosopher> lunatic: Is there any reason why you do not want to use the generic Nvidia drivers?
[07:36] <highphilosopher> rob138: yes
[07:36] <lunatic> celestia
[07:36] <lunatic> doesn't run well under generics
[07:37] <rob138> highphilosopher, cool, so what services do i need?
[07:37] <lunatic> thanks
[07:38] <highphilosopher> rob138: you need the "free Dynamic DNS" service
[07:38] <Lakai> Done, ttyfscker
[07:38] <highphilosopher> bimberi_: man you are quick with the little bot :)
[07:38] <gdb> celestia is amazing :-)
[07:38] <Lakai> Good thing I'm checking my typing... I keep wanting to add a u instead of an s
[07:38] <bimberi_> highphilosopher: :)
[07:39] <ttyfscker> lol
[07:39] <Lakai> heh
[07:39] <ttyfscker> Lakai::  you can ttyf<tab> to autocomplete
[07:39] <rob138> highphilosopher, thanks for all your help, what is a "wildcard" and do i want it enabled, and what is a mail exchanger?
[07:39] <ttyfscker> Lakai::  now save the file
[07:39] <Lakai> True, but I'm a rebel so I won't :P
[07:39] <Lakai> Saved
[07:39] <Lakai> already lol
[07:39] <ttyfscker> then exit it
[07:39] <ttyfscker> and sudo apt-get update
[07:39] <Lakai> Done
[07:39] <Lakai> tahnk you.
[07:39] <ttyfscker> thats not all
[07:39] <highphilosopher> rob138: ok... 1) Wildcard is not necessarry (optional) 2) no MX unless you plan on setting up a mail server
[07:40] <ttyfscker> after that gets done you have to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:40] <Lakai> roger :()
[07:40] <Lakai> oops
[07:40] <Lakai> :)
[07:40] <rob138> highphilosopher, thanks
[07:40] <highphilosopher> rob138: Np
[07:40] <highphilosopher> hey is anyone else here running ubuntu on a mac?
[07:40] <Lakai> Ok, so Mr. Fscker:
[07:40] <Lakai> Are you a developer/employee of Ubuntu, or a community member?
[07:40] <ttyfscker> im well hated by the ops in this chan
[07:40] <ttyfscker> we'll put it that way
[07:41] <Lakai> Ahaha... why's that?
[07:41] <Lakai> I commend you on your volunteer assistance :D
[07:41] <ttyfscker> i'd rather not say in the channel
[07:41] <ttyfscker> i like helping people.. and i dont want kicked
[07:41] <highphilosopher> ttyfscker: :)
[07:41] <Lakai> Heh
[07:41] <highphilosopher> I hear that
[07:42] <ttyfscker> good to know im not the only one in here that feels the same way
[07:42] <Lakai> Same name on the forums, I take it?
[07:42] <Lakai> PS - Don't worry, I'm not asking so I can bug you on the forums endlessly haha
[07:42] <Lakai> Just curious
[07:42] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: on the wiki it is ttyfscker
[07:42] <Lakai> 10-4
[07:42] <ttyfscker> dont worry about it.. i rarely use forums anyway.
[07:42] <highphilosopher> hey... lunatic has quit leaving
[07:43] <ttyfscker> im mainly in this channel to help.. if i ask a question its usually one that gets me kicked ..
[07:43] <Lakai> lol
[07:43] <ttyfscker> today i got banned for asking what the cause of the servers being down was..
[07:44] <Lakai> lol? wtf
[07:44] <ttyfscker> yea.. exactly
[07:44] <Lynoure> ttyfscker: that happened to lots of people in last 24h
[07:44] <highphilosopher> ttyfscker: did you strike a bad note :)?
[07:44] <m3talc0re> all these text editors for linux looks stupid
[07:44] <ttyfscker> and the definition of ubuntu is?????
[07:44] <Lakai> haha I could see it more like...
[07:44] <Lakai> "Why the f- are the servers down you inconsiderate a-holes?"
[07:44] <Lakai> :P
[07:44] <Lakai> jk
[07:44] <ttyfscker> lmao
[07:44] <garryF> I would guess that mentioning being kicked and hated here gets you more than your share of unwanted attention.
[07:44] <Lynoure> the downtime was ok, the keeping quiet about the causes just makes people speculate the worst
[07:44] <bimberi_> linux for people who read /topic ??
[07:45] <ttyfscker> well if your in the chan for 24 hours a day whats the chances you take a look at topic changes
[07:45] <highphilosopher> haha
[07:45] <bimberi_> ;)
[07:45] <garryF> They can't answer you, they are probably trying to get it working again.
[07:45] <ttyfscker> and when there are 779 people in a chan
[07:45] <Lakai> Well, no worries. ONly one 'away' OP right now anyway :P
[07:45] <ttyfscker> and a big man on top
[07:45] <ttyfscker> you'd think someone has an explanation as to what the deal is..
[07:45] <m3talc0re> i see nothing like notepad++ for linux
[07:45] <garryF> I heard that one of the update servers for one of the main distros was hacked, that might have been ubuntu.
[07:45] <Lakai> Wow, ok, that is going to take a lot longer than I thought haha
[07:45] <ttyfscker> i was just curious as to if it was dns problems, packages being updated on the repos.. or what
[07:46] <Lakai> So, will this upgrade bring me in to the better-background age of Dapper completely?
[07:46] <Lakai> As if I fresh installed it?
[07:46] <Lynoure> m3talc0re: what is notepad++ ?
[07:46] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: there isnt much you need for plain ascii text is there?
[07:46] <m3talc0re> it's a really good text editor for html, css, php, etc...
[07:46] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: it should upgrade you as if you did a CD install
[07:46] <Lynoure> m3talc0re: there are plenty of text editors, for plenty of preferences.
[07:46] <Lakai> I agree
[07:46] <Lakai> I love it
[07:46] <highphilosopher> ttyfscker: vi :)
[07:47] <Lakai> Ah, so it'll get rid of everything instead of keeping my files there?
[07:47] <VegaObscura> wb Matthew
[07:47] <Lakai> Good :D
[07:47] <ttyfscker> highphilosopher:: vi/vim is my personal preference for text too
[07:47] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, you still around.... very very sorry for that abrupt quit
[07:47] <VegaObscura> np
[07:47] <VegaObscura> i have plenty of time
[07:47] <MatthewV> my brother kicked the modems power
[07:47] <m3talc0re> http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm
[07:47] <highphilosopher> rofl
[07:47] <m3talc0re> that's notepad++
[07:47] <Lakai> notepad++ is so awesome for html/css (that's as far as I've gotten with anything to do with coding or scripting so far lol)
[07:47] <MatthewV> can i talk to you in pm VegaObscura , it'll make it easier
[07:47] <m3talc0re> yeah, i love it
[07:47] <m3talc0re> really sux that it's not for linux
[07:47] <VegaObscura> it wont let me PM you back
[07:47] <Lakai> Such little changes to regular notepad, but they rock so much
[07:47] <Lakai> BUT!
[07:47] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, what client?
[07:48] <VegaObscura> Konversation
[07:48] <VegaObscura> it says something about pms being blocked because of too much spam
[07:48] <Lakai> First off, Linux has tons of available software, so I'm sure there is an equivalent, if not detailed as "equivalent to notepad++"
[07:48] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, maybe you need to be a registered user....
[07:48] <VegaObscura> yes i think so
[07:48] <MatthewV> are you?
[07:48] <ttyfscker> Lakai::  what speed is your connection?
[07:48] <Lakai> Second, it's opensource. DIY! heh
[07:48] <VegaObscura> no im not registered, but i can do that now
[07:48] <Lakai> 1.5 Mbps
[07:48] <VegaObscura> ...if you will remind me of the command
[07:48] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, have you identified to NickServ
[07:49] <ttyfscker> i dont know but bluefish is a good editor
[07:49] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, anyway, thats why you can't pm back :)
[07:49] <MatthewV> ttyfscker, i love bluefish.. use it all the time
[07:49] <ttyfscker> im not sure if its comparable to notepad++ or not.. im not familiar with windows apps
[07:49] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re: have you tried quanta or bluefish?
[07:49] <Lynoure> bluefish is cute for html, at least
[07:49] <Lakai> Well, I may seem like a moron right now, but I intend to conquer this whole Linux thing. It's important since I plan on being a geek for a living.
[07:49] <VegaObscura> okay now i think im id'ed
[07:49] <Flannel> SciTE is for windows and linux, it's awesome.
[07:49] <ttyfscker> bluefish is a good app for just about any kind of editing
[07:49] <Lakai> And, although often tedious, it's fun knowing what I can do once I grow more knowledgable and experienced in all things Linux
[07:50] <highphilosopher> Lakai: It's ok we were all morons once :)
[07:50] <Lakai> heh
[07:50] <m3talc0re> so far, i've liked SuSE better...
[07:50] <Lakai> But yea, Linux is like the enviroment that FORCES you to learn to code, script, and manage servers....
[07:50] <highphilosopher> Personally vi for text..... and Zend Studio for anything scripting :)
[07:50] <Lakai> you know, since I have no games to take up my time anymore
[07:50] <Lakai> haha
[07:50] <Lakai> ./windows
[07:50] <highphilosopher> ./wine
[07:50] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: im in the process of getting my LPI certifications.. i already have a Computer Network Engineering degree.. now i need to complete my profile with some good certs
[07:51] <Lakai> heh
[07:51] <Lakai> I'm going in to my first year of computer tech this fall
[07:51] <Lakai> I'm not even certain of all the certificates out there
[07:51] <highphilosopher> I've got my assoc's under my belt... starting the fun stuff next semester
[07:51] <Lynoure> Lakai: that's not quite true: I'm eyeing both replaying Jagged Alliance two and trying Ufo: Alien Invasion.
[07:51] <Lakai> but I know I'll be getting important ones with this course like network+, inet and what not
[07:51] <ttyfscker> Lakai::  LPI = Linux Professional Institute... its a demanding cert.. up at the top with Redhat's certs
[07:51] <Lakai> Wow, nice
[07:52] <Lakai> Yea, you seem pretty knowledgable
[07:52] <Lakai> "Well, do this this this? No? Then try this this this"
[07:52] <highphilosopher> ttyfscker: how much does it cost?
[07:52] <Lakai> bing bang boom :D
[07:52] <ttyfscker> highphilosopher:: for just the test or for training and the test?
[07:52] <highphilosopher> ttyfscker: just the test
[07:52] <ttyfscker> there are 2 tests for each LPI program
[07:52] <Flannel> hey guys, not to stifle this discussion at all, but you mind moving it to #ubuntu-offtopic?  That'd be the perfect place for it.
[07:53] <ttyfscker> each test is 150 bucks
[07:53] <ttyfscker> you need 2 to be certified Jr. Linux Sys Admin
[07:53] <`JB> !gui
[07:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about gui - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:53] <ttyfscker> so its 300 dollars for the JR. cert
[07:53] <Lynoure> That's not horrendously much
[07:53] <_FlUiD_> i'm having problems installing ubuntu on my laptop
[07:53] <highphilosopher> ttyfscker: not bad
[07:53] <ttyfscker> and then the SR. Sys admin is 150 a test too
[07:53] <Lakai> Hey, my brother is bitching about me downloading so
[07:54] <highphilosopher> _Fluid_: what problems?
[07:54] <_FlUiD_> it gets stucked on manual partitioning
[07:54] <_FlUiD_> always
[07:54] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: explain to him that its nothing illegal or junk
[07:54] <Lakai> lol no
[07:54] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: tell him your installing your security updates for your OS ;)
[07:54] <Lakai> I'm lagging him because he wants to go not learn and play video games
[07:54] <Flannel> _FlUiD_: You using the desktop iso or the alternate?
[07:54] <highphilosopher> _FlUiD_: stuck how?
[07:54] <Lakai> He doesn't care he just wants to shoot people in BF2
[07:54] <Lakai> Sooo anyway
[07:55] <Lakai> my question: can I pause the download until he goes to bed?
[07:55] <Lakai> I'm guessing no
[07:55] <_FlUiD_> Flannel: the live cd
[07:55] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: just ctrl c it
[07:55] <m3talc0re> gonna give this "bluefish" a shot
[07:55] <ttyfscker> Lakai::  then rerun apt-get dist-upgrade when he goes to bed
[07:55] <_FlUiD_> highphilosopher: when i click next after selecting manual partition
[07:55] <`JB> After I exit GUI by Ctrl+Alt+F2, what command brings GUI back?
[07:55] <Lakai> ctrl c it?
[07:55] <Lakai> Copy, how?
[07:55] <Flannel> Lakai: you can ctrl-z it, then start it back up later.
[07:55] <_FlUiD_> it just keeps on reading the cd
[07:55] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re: It's good, rather tasty, but watch out for the bluetooths :)
[07:55] <ttyfscker> ctrl alt f7
[07:55] <Flannel> Lakai: Ctrl-C is break, not copy
[07:55] <Klowner> this is weird, it seems like my keypresses are slightly delayed on this laptop and its driving me nuts
[07:55] <Lakai> Thank yo usir
[07:56] <ttyfscker> that is what takes you back to X
[07:56] <Lakai> Oh lol
[07:56] <nin----jaaa> anyone know when to expect flash player 8 for linux?!
[07:56] <Lakai> I did not know
[07:56] <Lakai> Damn my Windows experience
[07:56] <Lakai> *shakes fist at ctrl c*
[07:56] <Lakai> :P
[07:56] <ttyfscker> `JB:: that was for you
[07:56] <`JB> thx
[07:56] <ttyfscker> no prob
[07:56] <`JB> got it
[07:56] <m3talc0re> well that's a load of shit
[07:56] <_FlUiD_> any ideas??
[07:56] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re: ???
[07:56] <nin----jaaa> anyone know when to expect flash player 8 for linux
[07:56] <m3talc0re> on their site they say you can use apt-get to install bluefish
[07:57] <Klowner> nin----jaaa: no, a very long time
[07:57] <Flannel> m3talc0re: yep, it's in the repositories
[07:57] <Lakai> So, anyway, I'm going to go have a couple cups of coffee and eat some raspberries. Horrible combination, I know, but I can't resist.
[07:57] <m3talc0re> aint workin' for me
[07:57] <highphilosopher> _fluid_: Dunno, I would try the install CD instead of the live... I have not had good luck with the live thus far.
[07:57] <Lakai> Just want yo uto know that I <3 you
[07:57] <m3talc0re> sudo apt-get install bluefish
[07:57] <Lakai> lol
[07:57] <Lakai> actually, one more question haha
[07:57] <_FlUiD_> ok
[07:57] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re: hang on 1 sec
[07:57] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: if you ctrl Z it, be sure that when you want to rerun it you use fg %1    1 being the job number it gave you when you ctrl z'd
[07:57] <m3talc0re> that's what i put and says it's not there
[07:57] <Flannel> m3talc0re: do you have universe enabled?
[07:57] <insin> do you have the correct repositories?
[07:57] <m3talc0re> no clue to either of those questions
[07:57] <Lakai> fg%1, got it
[07:57] <m3talc0re> i'm new to linux
[07:57] <nin----jaaa> Klowner, damn that sux...:( cuz now i dont get any sound from youtube since flash 8 came out and myspace vids dont work
[07:57] <Flannel> m3talc0re: chances are, you don't have universe.
[07:57] <m3talc0re> especially ubuntu
[07:58] <Flannel> !tell m3talc0re about repositories
[07:58] <Lakai> Now my question: what is the difference between apt-get and aptitude in the command line?
[07:58] <highphilosopher> !universe
[07:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:58] <Lakai> different kind of apt's I see basically
[07:58] <Flannel> Lakai: er, do a "jobs" first, make sure 1 is the right number
[07:58] <ttyfscker> aptitude is a different interface for dpkg
[07:58] <Klowner> nin----jaaa: bummer.. mine still works fine
[07:58] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: i never have liked aptitude myself
[07:58] <Lakai> just type jobs in to the command line?
[07:58] <m3talc0re> i wish this headache would go away
[07:58] <Lakai> dpkg being debian package?
[07:58] <Lakai> amirite? heh
[07:59] <ttyfscker> jobs will tell you the list of jobs you have suspended
[07:59] <bimberi_> !aptitude
[07:59] <highphilosopher> rite
[07:59] <Klowner> nin----jaaa: youtube audio that is, sometimes it'll go dead and I have to close all my firefox instances but then it works afterwards typically
[07:59] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[07:59] <garryF> m3talc0re Migraine?
[07:59] <highphilosopher> !bimberi_
[07:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about bimberi_ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:59] <highphilosopher> rofl
[07:59] <nin----jaaa> Klowner, well none of the flash audo works
[07:59] <bimberi_> ;P
[07:59] <m3talc0re> i dunno garry
[07:59] <Lakai> Thank you, guys. I love you both. I would have your babies if I wasn't a guy and you wouldn't shun me :P
[07:59] <m3talc0re> probably another side effect of my shitty life
[07:59] <highphilosopher> haha
[07:59] <Lakai> Caffeine calls! It's the way of Ubuntu! ;)
[07:59] <Lakai> haha
[07:59] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re: possibly
[08:00] <ttyfscker> i like this new stone sour album pretty good
[08:00] <insin> album is great
[08:00] <m3talc0re> you find anything highphilosopher?
[08:00] <ttyfscker> insin::  yea i like come (whatever)may better than the first one
[08:00] <babo> How do I get my emails out of other people's d**m spam boxes ???
[08:01] <highphilosopher> m3tarc0re: yes... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:01] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re go there and follow directions...
[08:01] <garryF> m3talc0re Just before the headache do you have visual disturbances, like blind spots and/or flashing lights or light and sound sensitivity? If so, it's a migraine.
[08:01] <highphilosopher> then apt-get install bluefish
[08:01] <ttyfscker> babo::  change your email name it attaches to the email
[08:01] <m3talc0re> i'm looking at this universe shit
[08:01] <highphilosopher> garryF: No, that's a bad refresh rate on your monitor
[08:01] <m3talc0re> no i don't garry
[08:01] <ttyfscker> like if your name is John Doe  make it Jack Doe or something
[08:01] <babo> ttyfscker, ???
[08:02] <Lynoure> hmmm
[08:02] <ttyfscker> babo::  do you mean people are getting your email in their spam folder?
[08:02] <garryF> K.
[08:02] <ttyfscker> what is the name your email account uses?
[08:02] <Flannel> m3talc0re: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[08:03] <vinboy> i use KDE, how do I change Evince's background color?
[08:03] <garryF> Right-click on desktop.
[08:03] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re: ok. Open up /etc/apt/sources.list in (insert your text editor's name here)
[08:03] <ttyfscker> vinboy:: one thing im not good with is KDE.. i hate kde heh
[08:03] <vinboy> ttyfscker: :D
[08:03] <Lynoure> thre is also #kubuntu
[08:03] <vinboy> thx
[08:04] <[KvZ] CassiuS> anyone got 1 sec to check my lilo.conf and tell me what's wrong?
[08:04] <Alexi5> hello
[08:04] <babo> ttyfscker: yes ...
[08:04] <garryF> pastebin it.
[08:04] <highphilosopher> m3talc0re: then uncomment (remove the #'s) the lines which have a link (http://) and then universe towards the end
[08:04] <[KvZ] CassiuS> Please
[08:05] <highphilosopher> gnite all, I'm off to beD
[08:05] <ttyfscker> babo::  then its either your Name (your real name not your email)  or it could even be the email adderess you use
[08:05] <m3talc0re> i just added the multiverse and universe things
[08:05] <highphilosopher> ttyfscker: nite
[08:05] <ttyfscker> night highphilosopher
[08:05] <Alexi5> what ubuntu package contains the development tools
[08:05] <ttyfscker> Alexi5:: there are several diff devel tools.. be more specific
[08:05] <Flannel> Alexi5: you mean build-essential? or something else
[08:05] <m3talc0re> okay, i think it's done...
[08:06] <Alexi5> yeah build-essentials
[08:06] <m3talc0re> yup
[08:06] <[Ex0r] > where are ubuntu's default linux headers installed ot ?
[08:06] <m3talc0re> i need ftp
[08:06] <ttyfscker> [Ex0r] :: /usr/src
[08:06] <Flannel> m3talc0re: a client? you already have it
[08:06] <m3talc0re> which is?
[08:06] <Flannel> m3talc0re: ftp
[08:07] <Flannel> m3talc0re: or, do you want a GUI? nautilus
[08:07] <m3talc0re> yeah
[08:07] <[KvZ] CassiuS> someone please help me with my lilo
[08:07] <m3talc0re> on winxp, i used aceftp
[08:07] <ttyfscker> [Ex0r] :: its usually /usr/src/linux-headers-2.x.x-x-386 or 686 or whatever cpu arch you have
[08:07] <Flannel> m3talc0re: places > connect to server, (or, one of those menues)
[08:07] <[Ex0r] > ttyfscker- I can't get into the /usr/src/linux folder
[08:07] <m3talc0re> trying this add/remove applications thing first
[08:07] <m3talc0re> i saw one in there earlier, don't know the name though
[08:08] <ttyfscker> [Ex0r] :: ubuntu doesnt create /usr/src/linux by default
[08:08] <Flannel> m3talc0re: why not use nautilus? it's already installed.
[08:08] <m3talc0re> gFTP
[08:08] <[Ex0r] > I installed linux-headers
[08:08] <ttyfscker> you will have to link your present headers to that directory
[08:08] <[Ex0r] > I am trying to find where the headers are installed so that I can get vmware server running
[08:08] <m3talc0re> lemme try
[08:09] <m3talc0re> i don't see Places>Connect to Server
[08:09] <ttyfscker> [Ex0r] :: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386 or -686
[08:09] <ttyfscker> if you have the most recent kernel in the repos
[08:09] <[Ex0r] > tried going there
[08:09] <[Ex0r] > trying sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 2.6.15-26.45
[08:09] <ttyfscker> [Ex0r] :: what does your uname -r say?
[08:10] <m3talc0re> installing nautilus from apt-get
[08:10] <Shak-> is it possible to get firefox to play embedded wmv files?
[08:10] <[Ex0r] > there, I got it going
[08:10] <ttyfscker> [Ex0r] :: you just need to sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[08:10] <[Ex0r] > that's what I meant
[08:10] <[Ex0r] > copied too much
[08:10] <clever`sleep> since ive upgraded to dapper scrolling on my touchpad mouse has stoped working
[08:10] <clever`sleep> anyone know how to fix it?
[08:10] <ttyfscker> clever`sleep:: yea
[08:11] <ttyfscker> clever`sleep::  you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:11] <clever`sleep> :)
[08:11] <Flannel> m3talc0re: er, installing?  are you on kubuntu?
[08:11] <ttyfscker> the horizontal scroll wont work right afaik
[08:11] <ttyfscker> but vertical scroll will
[08:11] <clever`sleep> ive never used horizontal
[08:11] <m3talc0re> ubuntu 6.06
[08:11] <Flannel> m3talc0re: ubuntu? or kubuntu? (or xubuntu?)
[08:12] <ttyfscker> with mine the tap click function was way to sensitive. so i disabled it too..
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> clever`sleep: install the touch pad tools and fiddle with those.
[08:12] <clever`sleep> i just need to scroll often in a terminal
[08:12] <m3talc0re> ooo booon too
[08:12] <clever`sleep> at first i wanted tap to click off
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> clever`sleep: pgup/pgdn works also for scrolling
[08:12] <ttyfscker> clever`sleep:: can i pm you what to put in your xorg.conf?
[08:12] <clever`sleep> but now my left buttons are dead
[08:12] <Flannel> m3talc0re: alright.  You shouldn't need to install nautilus, it comes installed.
[08:12] <clever`sleep> shure
[08:12] <ttyfscker> ok hang on
[08:12] <clever`sleep> pg up/down dont scroll for me in a term
[08:12] <clever`sleep> instead they go into the prog im running
[08:12] <Shak-> anyone know?
[08:12] <m3talc0re> appearently it didn't :/
[08:13] <clever`sleep> if i try to scroll up after ls i cant
[08:13] <kintaro0e> hi guys..how to install a package that is a .tar extension?
[08:13] <clever`sleep> and pagedown ends up tying a ~
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: what package is it?
[08:13] <Shak-> is it possible to get firefox to play embedded windows media files
[08:13] <clever`sleep> before the upgrade id go up or down in the command history
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> clever`sleep: sounds like problems with your keyboard, here it works great.
[08:13] <spades> Shak-  install totem or mplayer plugin for mozilla
[08:13] <Klowner> I switched from ubuntu to fluxbox and now my system beep is just a regular annoying beep, and it's rather loud, anyone know what wraps all the beeps and makes them nicer noises?
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> Shak-: yes.
[08:13] <kintaro0e> fyrestrtr..its from vmware
[08:13] <clever`sleep> i think its just a setting within gnome-terminal
[08:14] <clever`sleep> also if i make pageup/down work on the terminal
[08:14] <clever`sleep> it will damage its use in vim/irssi
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: if its the player, its available in repositories
[08:14] <kintaro0e> fyrestrtr: VMware Server Linux client package
[08:15] <ttyfscker> clever`sleep:: pm
[08:15] <Flannel> clever`sleep: it's shift pageup
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: okay, to extract it, just click on the archive in nautilus.
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: from the command line, tar -xvf foo.tar
[08:15] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: you just need to tar -xf vwamrefile.tar
[08:15] <RedGhost> watching videos stream in firefox, alot of the time no sound renders, is there by chance an audio codec pack or something of the sort??
[08:15] <m3talc0re> any web designers here?
[08:15] <clever`sleep> ahhh never tryed that
[08:16] <Shak-> m3talc0re: I do php
[08:16] <clever`sleep> yep shift works on them
[08:16] <m3talc0re> that's programming :P
[08:16] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: then it will create a new directory in the directory that the tar ball was located in
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> RedGhost: is this flash?
[08:16] <insin> are the videos using flash by any chance?
[08:16] <ttyfscker> in that you should see a vmware-install.pl or something like that
[08:16] <Shak-> m3talc0re: you mean like gfx/flash?
[08:16] <kintaro0e> ttyfscker: ok..then how to install?
[08:16] <RedGhost> fyrestrtr, no just like avi/mpg streams, youtube stuff
[08:16] <m3talc0re> yeah, that and like html, css, and the like
[08:16] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: first change into the directory that it created
[08:16] <m3talc0re> that's the main reason windows is a must for me, photoshop
[08:16] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e::  then ls
[08:17] <ttyfscker> and tell me what you see that is named like vmware-install.pl
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> RedGhost: make sure there isn't anything else playing sound.
[08:17] <Shak-> well any dolt can do html/css, I dont do graphics though
[08:17] <m3talc0re> i think i can manage to use gimp for a good bit, but it's no photoshop replacement
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> m3talc0re: gimpshop :)
[08:17] <m3talc0re> lol
[08:17] <m3talc0re> still aint no photoshop :P
[08:17] <gdb> m3talc0re: What functionality do you require that gimp doesn't provide?
[08:17] <kintaro0e> ttyfscker..yes there is..
[08:18] <m3talc0re> and yeah, any idiot can do html/css, but how good the code is varies :P
[08:18] <RedGhost> fyrestrtr, nothing else is playing sound, and for some reason the sound works like 1/5 times
[08:18] <insin> RedGhost: youtube uses flash
[08:18] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e::  before you install vmware you need the linux-headers installed too
[08:18] <gdb> "Linux ain't no Windows" either, but that statement is fairly meaningless.
[08:18] <ttyfscker> do you have that package installed?
[08:18] <m3talc0re> not requirements, but things i've gotten used to, luxuries of photoshop cs2
[08:18] <RedGhost> oh
[08:18] <m3talc0re> like smart guides
[08:18] <m3talc0re> those are oh so nice
[08:18] <RedGhost> what is the ff flash plugin name from the repositories
[08:18] <ttyfscker> flashplugin-nonfree
[08:19] <insin> theres a small bug with the flash plugin... theres a quick fix to get the audio working with firefox.
[08:19] <insin> Except, I can't remember it.
[08:19] <RedGhost> noo : (
[08:19] <kintaro0e> ttyfscker:hmm..not yet
[08:19] <clever`sleep> ttyfscker: crap
[08:19] <insin> I'll google it
[08:19] <ttyfscker> insin:: flash player 7 for linux is useless anyway
[08:19] <RedGhost> the power of google
[08:19] <m3talc0re> take this for example: http://www.m3talc0re.com/temp/silver_navy/
[08:19] <clever`sleep> freenode blocked the damn pm's
[08:19] <m3talc0re> not something any dolt can do in html/css :P
[08:20] <ttyfscker> linux needs flash 8 or 9
[08:20] <ttyfscker> gnash would be good if the browser plugin worked
[08:20] <snoops> it needs an opensource player
[08:20] <snoops> that works :)
[08:20] <Shak-> ok i've installed the mplayer-mozilla plugin, but the video doesnt play? it buffers and says "playing file.wmv" but nothing comes up
[08:20] <ttyfscker> snoops:: xmms ?
[08:20] <m3talc0re> that's yet another scrapped idea though
[08:21] <Lakai> um
[08:21] <Lakai> My computer just crashe
[08:21] <ttyfscker> Shak-:: you need the win32 codecs
[08:21] <m3talc0re> m3talc0re.com wont even be about web design or anything anymore, making it somethign else :P
[08:21] <Lakai> does that mean the job has been lost?
[08:21] <Lakai> lolol
[08:21] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: probably not..
[08:21] <Lakai> It over-heated because some moron turned my fan down. That's not cool in 30 degree weather
[08:21] <Shak-> ttyfscker: oh, is that another package?
[08:21] <insin> naw, flash 7 works flawlessly for me now
[08:21] <Lakai> 30 @ night, mind you. ... and 30'c
[08:21] <snoops> ttyfscker nah, regarding flash support.. gnash is a great idea and I hope it works.. but I doubt it will, because like the video compression algorithms flash use are copyrighted which adobe buys from third parties
[08:21] <ttyfscker> Shak-::  the easiest way to get it to work is to install easyubuntu.. and let it install all of that stuff
[08:22] <Lakai> I opened command and typed 'jobs'
[08:22] <Lakai> nothing happened
[08:22] <RedGhost> Howto fix Firefox Flash Video Sound on Ubuntu Linux Dapper
[08:22] <RedGhost> google is my friend :D
[08:22] <ttyfscker> snoops:: but half of the stuff out there is flash 8 and up compatable
[08:22] <ttyfscker> we are stuck with only flash 7
[08:22] <m3talc0re> expecting linux to find you a job Lakai?
[08:22] <m3talc0re> :P
[08:22] <ttyfscker> lmao
[08:22] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: you will have to reissue the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:22] <Lakai> HARDY HAR
[08:22] <Lakai> :P
[08:22] <m3talc0re> lol
[08:22] <Lakai> NOOOOOOOOO
[08:22] <ttyfscker> because that job isnt in memory anymore since you reboote
[08:22] <snoops> ttyfscker I know.. I'm a fulltime web developer.. I loathe adobe for only doing flash 7 for linux
[08:22] <ttyfscker> rebooted*
[08:23] <Lakai> Thanks, I learned something right there heh
[08:23] <Lakai> No prob, not a big downloa and I was only at 23%
[08:23] <m3talc0re> apt-get install lazy.ass.jobs
[08:23] <m3talc0re> try that :P
[08:23] <Lakai> lol
[08:23] <ttyfscker> snoops:: i have to use vmware and IE to play flash on one site that i must use on a daily basis.. it is aggrovating.
[08:23] <Shak-> ttyfscker: wine didnt work?
[08:23] <Lakai> MAEK $$$50000 A YEAR FRM UR COMPUETR CHARE!11
[08:23] <ttyfscker> firefox doesnt work well in windows with a lot of flash 8 sites
[08:23] <m3talc0re> lol
[08:24] <ttyfscker> Shak-:: wine doesnt work with it no..
[08:24] <Lynoure> ttyfscker: complain to the site? If you actually use it for business, or pay them, they might listen
[08:24] <ttyfscker> Lynoure:: yea i have thought about it.
[08:24] <Lakai> Ok, I shouldn't be asking this since I was originally suposed to forget the games and focus on my computer knowledge, but...
[08:24] <Lakai> Does Wine support Valve games?
[08:24] <Lakai> Or is it finicky with Valve?
[08:24] <ttyfscker> not familiar with Valve
[08:24] <ttyfscker> cedega might play it
[08:24] <Lakai> Wine is the only emulator I know of lol
[08:25] <Lakai> ah, ok
[08:25] <clever> wine doesnt support directx very well
[08:25] <clever> cedega does
[08:25] <Lakai> Valve = Half-Life stuff
[08:25] <gdb> WINE Is Not an Emulator
[08:25] <ttyfscker> but as for games on linux.. if the game isnt developed with linux in mind. then its not going to work well
[08:25] <insin> dont you have to pay for cedega?
[08:25] <Lynoure> ttyfscker: Do it, too :) Webdesigner's illusion that you can set any limitations and people will just bow to those should be fixed anyway :)
[08:25] <clever> yeah cedega is pay after so long
[08:25] <Lakai> Yea, just curious really.
[08:25] <clever> theres a trial and a pay versiom
[08:25] <clever> thr trial lets you see if you should realy pay
[08:25] <m3talc0re> aight, i'm going to bed
[08:25] <clever> and they just stole alot of there code from wine
[08:26] <ttyfscker> Lynoure:: the people that really need complained to is adobe.
[08:26] <m3talc0re> later all and thanks again for the help
[08:26] <Lynoure> ttyfscker: ok, do that, too :)
[08:26] <dibblego> !nvidia
[08:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:26] <dazvid> Hi everyone, whats your favourite program to "backup" DVD's ?
[08:26] <RedGhost> ca.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[08:26] <RedGhost> noooooo
[08:26] <_casey> :)
[08:26] <Flannel> RedGhost: just change your mirror
[08:27] <RedGhost> yeah ill use us or smth
[08:27] <kintaro0e> ttyfscker: i already extracted the file..and i see this vmware-install.pl and so whats next?
[08:27] <clever> dazvid: i use cpdvd in ubuntu
[08:28] <Shak-> ttyfscker: ok just installed w32codecs... but wow the colors are all messed up when I go to play the wmv file
[08:28] <RedGhost> kintaro0e, ./vmware-install.pl
[08:28] <RedGhost> you will need some dev packages like gcc and etc
[08:28] <dibblego> kintaro0e, run it
[08:29] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: did you install your linux-headers?
[08:29] <kintaro0e> dibblego RedGhost: ok..
[08:29] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: do a uname -r
[08:29] <kintaro0e> ttyfscker: whats a linux-headers?
[08:29] <ttyfscker> ok
[08:29] <ttyfscker> that means you dont have them
[08:29] <ttyfscker> lol
[08:29] <insin> all the header files used in compilation
[08:29] <ttyfscker> uname -r
[08:30] <ttyfscker> type that at the shell kintaro0e
[08:30] <dibblego> kintaro0e, to install vmware, you will need build-essential and linux-headers for your kernel
[08:30] <RedGhost> you need the linux headers, make and gcc
[08:30] <ttyfscker> ill brb im editing a file for clever
[08:30] <kintaro0e> ttyfscker: 2.6.15-26-386
[08:30] <RedGhost> i am currently using http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[08:30] <RedGhost> is the american servers us. ?
[08:30] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 build-essential
[08:30] <ttyfscker> do that
[08:30] <ttyfscker> and hang on please
[08:30] <kintaro0e> ttyfscker: ok..thanks a lot..i'll hang a while..thanks..ehehe
[08:31] <kintaro0e> dibblego RedGhost: whats with this linux headers/
[08:31] <RedGhost> its so vmware tools knows how to properly build
[08:31] <RedGhost> a few binaries for your kernel
[08:32] <RedGhost> there are a few walk throughs on dapper drake installing vmware tools on google
[08:32] <kintaro0e> ah..
[08:32] <kintaro0e> oks..
[08:32] <RedGhost> ill try and find a link
[08:32] <kintaro0e> ok..thanks a lot
[08:32] <kintaro0e> RedGhost: its nice..thanks
[08:32] <dibblego> kintaro0e, it shouldn't be too hard, I'm quite a noob and I found it simple
[08:32] <RedGhost> http://www.abbeyworkshop.com/2006/06/04/ubuntu-vmware-install.html
[08:33] <kintaro0e> dibblego:..me so much nope..because i'm a gentoo user..and want to try up with ubuntu..
[08:33] <damnation> does the latest ubuntu support out of the box wifi compatability with linksys pcmcia cards?
[08:33] <kintaro0e> RedGhost: thanks with this..
[08:34] <wassim_> salut
[08:35] <RedGhost> the american repositories are up
[08:36] <RedGhost> phew :P
[08:36] <redrum> what happened RedGhost ?
[08:36] <sobersabre> Seveas what was the problem with ubuntu.com downtime yesterday ?
[08:37] <sobersabre> any weblog ?
[08:37] <ttyfscker> clever:: are you here?
[08:37] <ttyfscker> http://paste.debian.net/9564
[08:37] <ttyfscker> try that config i made
[08:37] <clever> yep
[08:37] <tich> i just downloaded a .bin for a game i then ran chmod +x, what do i do now?
[08:37] <ttyfscker> tich:: ./filename.bin
[08:37] <RedGhost> redrum, the canadian respositories seem to be down so i switched to the american ones now it works
[08:38] <ttyfscker> sobersabre:: if you dont get banned kicked ill be pissed off
[08:39] <ttyfscker> not at you
[08:39] <trafiq> hm i try to install rtorrent_0.5.3-1_amd64.deb but i have error "Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6" what is that?:_)
[08:39] <clever> ttyfscker: you missed the # on the first line:O
[08:39] <ttyfscker> trafiq:: sounds like you have mixed sources
[08:40] <trafiq> and what i should to do?
[08:40] <ttyfscker> clever:: oops..lol
[08:40] <clever> easy to fix:)
[08:40] <stiv2k> does the 6.06  liveCD come with any FTP programs by any chance?
[08:40] <clever> reload X to apply?
[08:40] <ttyfscker> i just didnt select it when i copied it.. my bad
[08:40] <ttyfscker> clever yea ctrl alt backspace
[08:40] <polpak> stiv2k: there's one on the command line, or you can do places->connect to server
[08:40] <clever> will the X clients lose there connections?
[08:40] <ttyfscker> yea
[08:41] <RedGhost> firefox nosound flash bug fixed yay
[08:41] <RedGhost> i can youtube my heart out
[08:41] <clever> k will have to carefully shutdown everything
[08:41] <clever> brb:)
[08:41] <m3talc0re> so sue me
[08:41] <m3talc0re> how the hell do i get icons to show on my desktop?
[08:41] <m3talc0re> like my computer, firefox and shit
[08:41] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: what environment you in gnome kde or xfce?
[08:41] <m3talc0re> no clue
[08:41] <m3talc0re> whatever ubuntu uses for default
[08:42] <ttyfscker> do you have a K start panel? or do you have the default ubuntu sh*t brown desktop?
[08:42] <ttyfscker> ok
[08:42] <ttyfscker> you have gnome
[08:42] <m3talc0re> shit brown
[08:42] <insin> its gnome
[08:42] <ttyfscker> lol
[08:42] <polpak> !language
[08:42] <m3talc0re> how can i change it?
[08:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:42] <m3talc0re> like to something prettier
[08:42] <polpak> m3talc0re: check out the themes
[08:42] <m3talc0re> besides the stupid themes
[08:42] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: the icons should be on by default.
[08:42] <m3talc0re> they're not
[08:43] <m3talc0re> how do i get like kde or whatever, like SuSE uses?
[08:43] <ttyfscker> in gconf editor you can edit the nautilus options to show icons.. i dont know the exact locations.. i dont use gnome here.
[08:43] <polpak> m3talc0re: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:43] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: try xfce first
[08:43] <ttyfscker> please!
[08:43] <m3talc0re> what's that?
[08:43] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <ttyfscker> its a lightweight window manager/desktop environment
[08:44] <m3talc0re> i'll try this xubuntu one first
[08:44] <polpak> m3talc0re: fluxbox is nice if you want lightweight
[08:44] <stiv2k> polpak: the command line one, is it ncftp?
[08:45] <m3talc0re> care less about lightweight
[08:45] <m3talc0re> i want pretty damnit!
[08:45] <ttyfscker> fluxbox is a great wm for low resources. and good if you like running gdesklets
[08:45] <insin> you should check out xgl on kde
[08:45] <ttyfscker> insin::  xgl is a resource hog
[08:45] <Hit3k> Can you run xgl on fluxbox?
[08:45] <insin> ttyfscker, but its fun
[08:45] <Hit3k> that'd be sweet
[08:46] <ttyfscker> insin:: i have composite working great with xfce, without using xgl
[08:46] <insin> ttyfscker, hmm I'll try that then
[08:46] <m3talc0re> i don't know if it's intentional or what
[08:46] <ttyfscker> Hit3k:: id say you can
[08:46] <m3talc0re> but i read ttyfscker as tittifucker
[08:46] <Flannel> !language
[08:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:46] <ttyfscker> haha
[08:46] <stiv2k> lmfao, m3talc0re
[08:47] <m3talc0re> is it just me or what?
[08:47] <Hit3k> ttyfscker, i dont like xgl anyway but it'd be pretty cool
[08:47] <crafteh> I just installed a new hard disk and now Ubuntu stalls when trying to mount root... I think it thinks root is on the new disk. what should I do?
[08:47] <ttyfscker> no its just people having corn cobs in their arse m3talc0re
[08:47] <sobersabre> ttyfscker what have I said that made you say: "sobersabre:: if you dont get banned kicked ill be pissed off"
[08:47] <tich> ttyfscker, okay that seemed to work, it ran the install wizard what would i do now?
[08:47] <m3talc0re> oo
[08:47] <m3talc0re> i got a question
[08:47] <insin> I rarely use it myself but when i wanna show off to all those window users... especially those waiting for Vista, I'll throw on that and create envy in the room
[08:47] <ttyfscker> sobersabre:: i asked the same question in other words earlier today and got a kick/ban..
[08:47] <m3talc0re> why the hell is "ubuntu" named after some african crap?
[08:47] <Flannel> crafteh: did you change your disks around at all?
[08:47] <sobersabre> hm.
[08:48] <Flannel> m3talc0re: it's on the website
[08:48] <ttyfscker> about the repos
[08:48] <insin> cuz its made in south africa
[08:48] <Hit3k> ttyfscker, you run fluxbox?
[08:48] <m3talc0re> made in south africa....
[08:48] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: lol
[08:48] <sobersabre> ttyfscker are you a registered user ?
[08:48] <crafteh> Flannel: yeah, I had to switch the connectors for them to fit (so the new one is using the old connection)
[08:48] <m3talc0re> then why they have some chinese guy on the front page?
[08:48] <crafteh> Flannel: how can I update the configs?
[08:48] <ttyfscker> sobersabre:: yea..
[08:48] <stiv2k> m3talc0re: hahahahaha
[08:48] <sobersabre> wierd.
[08:48] <ttyfscker> the topic was dont ask about the repos or something.. they were down..
[08:48] <stiv2k> m3talc0re: agreed, they should have some african tribesmen on the front page
[08:48] <m3talc0re> some black guy in purple and gold with an afro wouldn't fit too good on there i guess...
[08:48] <Flannel> crafteh: you'll need to edit your grub configs
[08:49] <insin> cuz hes human? and Ubuntu means human or something sentimental like that... i have no idea
[08:49] <ttyfscker> well i asked "could i ask why the repos are down, without getting kicked"
[08:49] <sobersabre> ttyfscker topic  WAS. now topic is not like that.
[08:49] <crafteh> Flannel: I can get into grub at the boot menu right? (I don't need a cd or anything)
[08:49] <ttyfscker> ill just put it this way.. the man on top never does anything but utilize his OP power in here
[08:49] <m3talc0re> i really like SuSE
[08:49] <ttyfscker> if you have sense you will know exactly what i mean
[08:49] <stiv2k> that, or rename ubuntu to fry rice
[08:49] <stiv2k> :/
[08:49] <m3talc0re> i really DON'T like it's 5 cd crap
[08:49] <Flannel> ttyfscker: because sometimes servers go down, or their networks, or whatever.  It's not 'the repos' it's one particular mirror
[08:49] <ttyfscker> Flannel:: no it was several mirrors
[08:49] <Flannel> crafteh: yeah, you'll need to change some numbers around, to reflect your new HD layout
[08:50] <crafteh> alright, i'll give it a try
[08:50] <ttyfscker> Flannel::  i asked because i thought there might be packages being updated
[08:50] <m3talc0re> i really like the default ubuntu theme name too
[08:50] <crafteh> i probably need to swap /dev/hda0 with /dev/hda1 ?
[08:50] <ttyfscker> or i wondered if there was some technical problem
[08:50] <crafteh> or osmething like that
[08:50] <m3talc0re> "Human"
[08:50] <Flannel> ttyfscker: nah, that all happens seamlessly
[08:50] <sobersabre> Flannel is there a public log of what equipment went down, and maybe some other infra-structure schematics, so I avoid such setup in the future ?
[08:50] <m3talc0re> wtf
[08:50] <m3talc0re> looks mexican to me
[08:50] <m3talc0re> only "Humans" i know that would be orange/shit brown
[08:51] <Flannel> crafteh: nah, Well, related.  But numbering is a little different.
[08:51] <Flannel> m3talc0re: for the... fifth time, please, watch your language.
[08:51] <ttyfscker> sobersabre:: i was wondering the same thing your asking when Sevea** kicked me
[08:51] <m3talc0re> i am watching my language :/
[08:51] <Flannel> sobersabre: not that I'm aware of, no.
[08:51] <sobersabre> ttyfscker forget your trauma. topic has changed.
[08:51] <m3talc0re> i've had four other warnings?
[08:51] <insin> haha yeah man
[08:51] <ttyfscker> sobersabre:: well pardon me MR
[08:52] <m3talc0re> guess i missed 'em, lol
[08:52] <crafteh> Flannel: That computer auto boots into ubuntu so it doesn't show the menu... do you know how to intercept grub?
[08:52] <Flannel> m3talc0re: yes, you have.  And, here.  this explains the naming and stuff. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[08:52] <Flannel> crafteh: you hit escape, I believe.
[08:52] <Flannel> crafteh: then you'll go the bottom menu item, which is 'manually edit' or whatnot.
[08:52] <m3talc0re> i think this kubuntu thing is gonna take a while....
[08:52] <crafteh> ok
[08:52] <m3talc0re> it's on Get 78
[08:52] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: i thought you was going to get xubuntu?
[08:53] <m3talc0re> i am
[08:53] <m3talc0re> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:53] <ttyfscker> thats kubuntu
[08:53] <insin> m3talc0re, you just said k... I'm confused
[08:53] <m3talc0re> oh
[08:53] <m3talc0re> sorry
[08:53] <kintaro0e> ttyfscker: hi..i just finish installing the linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 build-essential, so whats next..shall i do this ./vmware-install.pl ?
[08:53] <m3talc0re> x, k, whatever
[08:53] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: yes
[08:53] <kintaro0e> ok..
[08:54] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: i like that statement about "Humans"  that was hilarious
[08:54] <Yon> hello all
[08:54] <m3talc0re> lol
[08:54] <crafteh> Flannel: I hit escape when it tells me to but it ignores it! i think it might be because I have a usb keyboard?
[08:54] <ttyfscker> i wish people wouldnt make ubuntu out to be a distro for newbies
[08:55] <Yon> lol
[08:55] <ttyfscker> yea it might be easy to install.. but its still linux.. and it has the power of any of the leading dists
[08:55] <insin> ttyfscker, and thensome
[08:55] <Lakai> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade re-started :D
[08:55] <Lakai> This time I'm getting it done lol
[08:55] <Flannel> crafteh: er, I don't think so.  Maybe it's some other key, I don't remember, it's been a while since I've noticed.  It should say something though. for a while 'press [whatever]  to go to the boot menu' or whatnot.
[08:55] <m3talc0re> <--can't wait for vista
[08:55] <Yon> lakai
[08:55] <ttyfscker> Lakai:: yea tell your brother to go find something to f**k
[08:56] <crafteh> it says esc
[08:56] <m3talc0re> i wish i had MY computer
[08:56] <m3talc0re> this computer sucks
[08:56] <Yon> i have seen some of you4r post on the forums and i want to know if you ever found out how to change the wep key index?
[08:56] <crafteh> i'll just hit all the keys
[08:56] <Lakai> He has something to f-, suprisingly. It's 500 miles away though right now.
[08:56] <Lakai> Yon
[08:56] <Lakai> I'm not Lakai on the baords
[08:56] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: how long you been waiting?  its been in development mode for what 4 or 5 years?   and yet it still looks like XP with a different theme..
[08:56] <Lakai> Sorry
[08:56] <Yon> oh kk
[08:56] <Yon> sory M8
[08:56] <Lakai> I'm sure I'm much more newbie than he
[08:56] <m3talc0re> lol
[08:56] <Yon> well does any one know how to change the wep key index in ubuntu
[08:56] <m3talc0re> vista isn't even near xp :P
[08:57] <ttyfscker> vista is windows though ;)
[08:57] <Lakai> SO I FINALLY CATCH UP TO THE B- WHO STOLE MY NAME, HUH?
[08:57] <Yon> vista is like sucks the balls
[08:57] <Lakai> :P
[08:57] <schmakk_> im switching from gnome to kde and i set debconf to use kde as frontend.. first it complained that i didnt have libqt-perl installed, now it says debconf: (DISPLAY problem?) and then that it is falling back to dialog..
[08:57] <ttyfscker> windows = the real virus
[08:57] <insin> lol
[08:57] <m3talc0re> let me get you a link to my system specs
[08:57] <cykon> ....didn't windows drop winfs from vista?
[08:57] <Yon> yes
[08:58] <ttyfscker> cykon:: they probably did.. they are stupid
[08:58] <Yon> it is going to be inplimented later in it's life via updates
[08:58] <m3talc0re> let you see how big of a downgrade i've had to suffer :(
[08:58] <cykon> amazes me how they have enough time for transparent windows....no time for a decent file system...
[08:58] <Flannel> !offtopic
[08:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:58] <m3talc0re> http://www.rage3d.com/board/member.php?u=53246
[08:58] <m3talc0re> scroll to my signature
[08:58] <m3talc0re> Current POS Rig is what i'm on right now
[08:58] <kintaro0e> dibblego RedGhost ttyfscker: thanks a lot guys..now its running..ehehe..cool
[08:58] <m3talc0re> Main Rig is MY comp i left in new orleans that i want back....
[08:58] <ttyfscker> windows needs a new kernel.. microsoft needs to just adapt the linux kernel or bsd.. and build a proprietary system on top of that..
[08:59] <CanadaGradehEh> RIiiiigt now...
[08:59] <cykon> lol
[08:59] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: no prob
[08:59] <Yon> yeh that would work great
[08:59] <cykon> ...there ya go...the mac route
[08:59] <schmakk_> anyone? debconf: (DISPLAY problem?)
[08:59] <Yon> but they would need new programes because they are windows noobs :P
[08:59] <insin> Except wouldn't windows have to share the source code?
[08:59] <m3talc0re> hey umm
[08:59] <ttyfscker> cykon:: at least mac is usable
[08:59] <m3talc0re> kdm is what i just downloaded right?
[08:59] <Flannel> m3talc0re: no.  although it's part of it.
[08:59] <m3talc0re> and gdm is the regular shit brown ubuntu theme stuff right?
[09:00] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: kdm is just the display manager
[09:00] <kintaro0e> ttyfscker: what does it mean when you say userland?
[09:00] <cykon> yea...luv mac :)
[09:00] <m3talc0re> well it's asking me which to use
[09:00] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: userland = virtualization through your memory in vmware
[09:00] <CanadaGradehEh> I'm on:
[09:00] <CanadaGradehEh> Barton 2500+ @ 2310 MHz
[09:00] <CanadaGradehEh> 2x512MB OCZ EL Platinum DDR400 2-3-2-5 @ 2.-3-3-6 210 MHz (1:1)
[09:00] <CanadaGradehEh> MSI KT6 Delta
[09:00] <Flannel> m3talc0re: gdm/kdm is the screen you log into
[09:00] <m3talc0re> Select the desired default display manager.
[09:00] <m3talc0re> gdm
[09:00] <m3talc0re> kdm
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[09:00] <Yon> ay nice system
[09:00] <CanadaGradehEh> oh, and radeon 9800pro
[09:00] <kintaro0e> ttyfscker: sory i dont get it..hehe
[09:00] <CanadaGradehEh> Yea, not a bad system :)
[09:00] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: either one will launch kde
[09:01] <CanadaGradehEh> Does the job, and pretty well for it's era
[09:01] <m3talc0re> which one should i pick?
[09:01] <Flannel> m3talc0re: whichever you want
[09:01] <Yon> well i have ubuntu on my laptop that is a p.o.s and i need to find out how to change the wep key index
[09:01] <m3talc0re> i don't know what they are!
[09:01] <CanadaGradehEh> well
[09:01] <CanadaGradehEh> I'm guessing
[09:01] <Flannel> m3talc0re: gdm/kdm is the screen you log into
[09:01] <CanadaGradehEh> gnome  for gmd
[09:01] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: userland in vmware means how your virtual system is going to be integrated with your physical hardware through your linux OS
[09:01] <Flannel> m3talc0re: but, once youre at either, you can select both gnome and kde.
[09:01] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: its not really essential to know that
[09:02] <jith> fg
[09:02] <CanadaGradehEh> Yey, I was right
[09:02] <CanadaGradehEh> lol
[09:02] <ttyfscker> kintaro0e:: its safe to hit enter on all of the config options
[09:02] <m3talc0re> i picked kdm
[09:02] <m3talc0re> yay for being clueless!
[09:02] <CanadaGradehEh> KDM because it's uberer on the flashy graphics side
[09:02] <CanadaGradehEh> the KDE kernel is more graphically appealing from what I know
[09:02] <Flannel> CanadaGradehEh: kernel?  they're identical
[09:02] <ttyfscker> kdm uses QT though.. i hate QT..  as if the name alone isnt bad enough
[09:02] <CanadaGradehEh> KDE and Gnome?
[09:03] <CanadaGradehEh> Have I been mislead?
[09:03] <cykon> yea...qt and gnome r not a good mix
[09:03] <Flannel> CanadaGradehEh: they both use the linux kernel
[09:03] <CanadaGradehEh> err, not kernel
[09:03] <_atomic> hi
[09:03] <CanadaGradehEh> Sorry, brain fart lol
[09:03] <ttyfscker> of course he is using kde.. so might as well get to liking qt
[09:03] <MrKeuner> !help
[09:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:03] <m3talc0re> !psychiatrist
[09:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about psychiatrist - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:03] <m3talc0re> :(
[09:04] <CanadaGradehEh> But anyway, am I right with that information? KDE is more graphically appealing?
[09:04] <Belathor> Hi, I have a big problem with my keyboard on my laptop in Ubuntu.
[09:04] <PaloDeQueso> So I set up a server and got apache2 and svn on it and also file sharing, but it seems I've forgotten the password to the only account with sudo priveledges, is there any way to get back in?
[09:04] <m3talc0re> hmm...
[09:04] <ttyfscker> CanadaGradehEh:: no its more graphically sickening
[09:04] <m3talc0re> !porn
[09:04] <CanadaGradehEh> What are the benefits of both Gnome and KDE, other than Gnome taking less resources because of being less flashy?
[09:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about porn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:04] <_atomic> I'll soon find out
[09:04] <m3talc0re> knows nothing about porn!?
[09:04] <schmakk_> CanadaGradehEh: yes, it is. also, kde is where windows users will feel most at home if you ask me
[09:04] <Flannel> PaloDeQueso: you can boot to rescue mode and set a new password
[09:04] <ttyfscker> CanadaGradehEh:: they are just user preferred..
[09:04] <CanadaGradehEh> I've never used KDE yet, mind you. Just going by sword
[09:04] <MrKeuner> I am having trouble installing php support for apache2 on dapper firefox keeps asking where to download the .php file
[09:04] <PaloDeQueso> neat
[09:04] <PaloDeQueso> thanks dude
[09:05] <MrKeuner> libapache2-mod-php5 is installed
[09:05] <Ademan> hey uh, what ports does samba use?
[09:05] <Yon> ok question
[09:05] <MrKeuner> what am I missing?
[09:05] <Flannel> PaloDeQueso: At the grub menu, select 'recovery mode' and then well, just google for password reset, or passwd (thats the file you'll be editing), theres plenty of info out there
[09:05] <m3talc0re> it uses the aft ports Ademan...
[09:05] <CanadaGradehEh> Hey metal
[09:05] <CanadaGradehEh> I just realized
[09:05] <Yon> where do i get flash for ubuntu cos i try downloading it and it still doesent have it
[09:05] <CanadaGradehEh> Need to log in to be able to see your setup
[09:05] <bbrazil> Ademan: 137 138 139 445
[09:05] <m3talc0re> oh
[09:06] <CanadaGradehEh> just type it out, lazy
[09:06] <m3talc0re> too big..
[09:06] <Ademan> thanks bbrazil
[09:06] <Flannel> MrKeuner: Do you have php.load and php.conf in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/?  and, have you restarted apache?
[09:06] <CanadaGradehEh> just type out
[09:06] <m3talc0re> let me get another link to my old forums, shouldn't need to login
[09:06] <bbrazil> Ademan: somre are tcp, others udp
[09:06] <CanadaGradehEh> CPU
[09:06] <CanadaGradehEh> RAM
[09:06] <CanadaGradehEh> MOTHERBOARD
[09:06] <CanadaGradehEh> VID CARD
[09:06] <Flannel> !paste
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:06] <MrKeuner> Flannel/ I have restarted yes but did not check these files let me check
[09:06] <CanadaGradehEh> nevermind, wait on it haha
[09:06] <CanadaGradehEh> brb
[09:06] <m3talc0re> http://www.m3talc0re.com/ipboard/index.php?showuser=1
[09:07] <m3talc0re> try that one, scroll down to the bottom, that's where the sig is
[09:07] <MrKeuner> Flannel/ yes they are there
[09:07] <m3talc0re> okay
[09:07] <Belathor> It takes a little over a second of pressing down a key for the character to show up.
[09:07] <m3talc0re> it's done
[09:07] <m3talc0re> now what?
[09:07] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: what kinda metal you into?
[09:07] <Flannel> !offtopic
[09:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:07] <ttyfscker> !offtopicwhocares?
[09:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about offtopicwhocares? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:07] <m3talc0re> korn, static-x, disturbed, um....
[09:07] <m3talc0re> you're asking me to think right now...
[09:07] <ttyfscker> yea
[09:07] <ttyfscker> pm msg me sometime
[09:07] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:08] <ttyfscker> cant talk in here at 2 am
[09:08] <m3talc0re> so this kubuntu-desktop crap is done, now what?
[09:08] <m3talc0re> hey, it's 2am for me too
[09:08] <m3talc0re> where you at ?
[09:08] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: ctrl alt backspace will restart your X server..
[09:08] <tsume> its 2300 hours here
[09:08] <m3talc0re> aight
[09:08] <ttyfscker> and then you should have the new display manager
[09:09] <m3talc0re> brb, lemme try it
[09:09] <ttyfscker> you will get disconnected
[09:09] <m3talc0re> yeah
[09:09] <ttyfscker> so save all of your work you need
[09:09] <Yon> 1600
[09:09] <m3talc0re> hence the brb :P
[09:09] <bruenig> 0200
[09:10] <labreche> hy,
[09:10] <damnation> does the latest ubuntu support out of the box wifi compatability with linksys pcmcia cards?
[09:10] <ttyfscker> Flannel:: according to the topic there isnt too much that would be ontopic..
[09:10] <damnation> sorry i can't find my Q above
[09:10] <bruenig> !wifi
[09:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:10] <Flannel> ttyfscker: right.  Just support related discussions.  chatting is done in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <m3talc0re> it's still shit brown...
[09:10] <Belathor> I think it might be AIGLX that is causing. Is there a way I could disable it to find out?
[09:11] <Yon> !ontopic
[09:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:11] <ttyfscker> Flannel:: and are you here for any thing other than to gripe and complain?
[09:11] <CanadaGradehEh> Back
[09:11] <ttyfscker> Flannel::  i dont see you ever saying too much
[09:11] <Belathor> Is all I have to do is put false in the xorg config file?
[09:11] <m3talc0re> it's still shit brown!!
[09:11] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: you have to change the session when you do that
[09:11] <ttyfscker> was your login screen still the same?
[09:11] <m3talc0re> yeah
[09:11] <ttyfscker> or was it a new login screen
[09:11] <m3talc0re> same
[09:11] <Lynoure> !language
[09:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:12] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: do this
[09:12] <CanadaGradehEh> wow metal
[09:12] <ttyfscker> Ctrl alt F1
[09:12] <ttyfscker> sudo killall gdm
[09:12] <CanadaGradehEh> your rig has such potential.. WHERE IS THE OVERCLOCK?!
[09:12] <ttyfscker> sudo kdm
[09:12] <bruenig> thanks Lynoure, me and my kids like to maximize the IRC channel and just watch what people say
[09:12] <packjam> mrning
[09:12] <ttyfscker> that is after you log in at the terminal screen
[09:12] <m3talc0re> lemme break out the pen and paper...
[09:12] <m3talc0re> lol, big downgrade aint it canada :P
[09:13] <CanadaGradehEh> yea lol
[09:13] <CanadaGradehEh> gg fx5200
[09:13] <CanadaGradehEh> ... running on a celeron
[09:13] <CanadaGradehEh> lofl
[09:13] <packjam> os[Linux 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic x86_64]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ @ 1.00GHz]  mem[Physical : 1507MB, 86.0% free]  disk[Total : 156.79GB, 91.10% Free]  video[1002:71c2]  sound[ICH - ALi M5455] 
[09:13] <Lynoure> bruenig: they are not my rules. But plenty of young ubuntu users out there, and occasionally in here. And the swearing rarely adds anything useful.
[09:13] <m3talc0re> yeah i know, it's sad
[09:13] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: i will brb... you need to sudo killall gdm && kdm  from the terminal
[09:13] <m3talc0re> aight
[09:13] <ttyfscker> and when it asks you to login
[09:14] <ttyfscker> select KDE as your session
[09:14] <m3talc0re> k
[09:14] <ttyfscker> ill be back
[09:14] <packjam> 1st time I start xchat up and I do not even have to config ity
[09:14] <bruenig> Lynoure, i was thanking you, my wife tells me to read dr. seuss to them. But I say learning to read from linux support irc is just as good and maybe they will pick up more in the process
[09:14] <MrKeuner>  #a2enmod php5 says that it is already enabled but firefox still keeps asking where to download. apache2 is restarted.
[09:14] <Lakai> So, what do you plan on doing with Ubuntu, m3talc0re?
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> bruenig: listen to your wife.
[09:14] <Lakai> And what did you rpeviously do?
[09:14] <m3talc0re> and yeah, 7800GT to a FX5200 and Athlon64 3200+ Venice to a Celeron
[09:14] <Lynoure> bruenig: heh :)
[09:15] <m3talc0re> having children with it Lakai
[09:15] <m3talc0re> i'll treat her good though
[09:15] <m3talc0re> :P
[09:15] <Lakai> Well, Ubuntu IS pretty customizable...
[09:15] <Lakai> lol
[09:15] <m3talc0re> brb though, gonna try to change my gui crap
[09:15] <Pons> guys, a question on compiz.. when a window has activity, it automaticaly goes on top, and it is kinda annoying .. any advices of how can i disable this behavior?
[09:15] <bruenig> !language > m3talc0re
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> Pons: best to ask in #ubuntu-xgl or #compiz
[09:16] <Tracker1> anyone alive in here?
[09:16] <Pons> compiz doesn't exist..
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> ah, its #xgl then
[09:16] <Lakai> 776 users in room
[09:16] <Lakai> Gotta be some...
[09:17] <bruenig> This is the time for all of the asians to log on
[09:17] <Lakai> Ew, BellSouth
[09:17] <Lakai> :P
[09:17] <m3talc0re> well, the login screen was different
[09:17] <Jimmy89> hey guys
[09:17] <rattboi> hey
[09:17] <rattboi> is there a ppc ubuntu channel?
[09:17] <Yon> helo jimmy
[09:17] <Yon> woot woot
[09:17] <Jimmy89> hello yon :p
[09:17] <m3talc0re> if you think that's ew, just think, it's only 1.4mb/s down
[09:17] <Yon> :)
[09:17] <Lakai> 1.6 here
[09:17] <Lakai> lol
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> rattboi: this is it, I think.
[09:17] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:18] <Yon> are you looking for the wep key 2 aswell
[09:18] <Jimmy89> so do you guys know how to change the wep key index # ?
[09:18] <m3talc0re> i miss my 5mb cable in new orleans
[09:18] <bruenig> rattboi, pretty sure there isn't, are you sure your question can only be answered by fellow ppc users?
[09:18] <Tracker1> During the 6.06LTS Desktop installer, I get a  "Cannot access security updates" then it crashes with soem python errors..
[09:18] <m3talc0re> i forgot what else i had to do after i logged in
[09:18] <rattboi> fyrestrtr: well, I'm wondering if I can resize my current OSX install to dualboot Ubuntu
[09:18] <rattboi> so that sounds like probably a PPC question
[09:18] <Lakai> I have the chance to go to 2.6 dedicated...
[09:18] <Lakai> but at $40 a month... no thanks
[09:18] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:18] <bruenig> rattboi, you should be able to do that at the partitioning part of the install
[09:19] <m3talc0re> can you scroll up and tell me what tty said i had to do after i logged back into ubuntu?
[09:19] <linuzo> http://jukebox.i.am currently 365 songs..
[09:19] <rattboi> bruenig: should and can are two different things
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> m3talc0re: choose KDE from the session menu
[09:19] <CanadaGradeEh> m3tal, why don't you?
[09:19] <CanadaGradeEh> lool
[09:19] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: im back you need to click on the sessions part of kdm before you login on the login manager.. and select the kDE desktop
[09:19] <ttyfscker> and it will login to kde instead of gnome
[09:19] <m3talc0re> i didn't see anything like that
[09:19] <Tracker1> I have tried searching/google for the issues, and can't find it.. after trying the installer again, it seems to be hanging.
[09:20] <CanadaGradeEh> let me know the difference!
[09:20] <m3talc0re> all i saw was username and password
[09:20] <bruenig> rattboi, I saw somebody with a new intel mac that had OSX, windows XP, and fedora core on it.
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> you don't need to use kdm, you can use gdm and choose kde from its session menu.
[09:20] <m3talc0re> it was blue though and said kubuntu
[09:20] <rattboi> bruenig: also, that is a different matter
[09:20] <bruenig> rattboi, yeah i know but it is pretty cool
[09:20] <rattboi> intel macs and ppc macs use different partitioning and firmware
[09:20] <rattboi> bruenig: this is true :P
[09:20] <bruenig> !dual boot
[09:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about dual boot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:21] <bruenig> !partitioning
[09:21] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:21] <rattboi> I found this: http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=292650
[09:21] <CanadaGradeEh> What's PPC stand for?
[09:21] <CanadaGradeEh> !PPC
[09:21] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[09:21] <rattboi> power pc
[09:21] <m3talc0re> you dope
[09:21] <CanadaGradeEh> Shush, newb
[09:21] <rattboi> perhaps I can just resize with Disk Utility and follow this guide
[09:21] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:21] <CanadaGradeEh> You and I are one in the same
[09:21] <bruenig> rattboi, yeah that is how you would do it on a pc pretty much
[09:21] <m3talc0re> well i knew what ppc stood for :P
[09:21] <CanadaGradeEh> Man, this is going to take some getting used to
[09:22] <bruenig> rattboi, when you get to the partioning part of the install, resize the OSX, then make a swap and a root partition and there you go
[09:22] <CanadaGradeEh> I think since I have some old junk computer stuff in my room, I'll set that stuff up once I get used to this whole Linux thing, then start learning more about networking and server management
[09:22] <m3talc0re> so what do i do, log back out and try again?
[09:22] <CanadaGradeEh> THEN I'll get in to programming :D
[09:22] <MrKeuner>  #a2enmod php5 says that php5 is already enabled but firefox keeps asking where to download. apache2 is restarted several times. I have also reinstalled all apache2 and php packages from scratch with no luck, what may be my problem?
[09:22] <CanadaGradeEh> I'll have to learn some scripting along the way though I'm guessing if I'm getting in to server administration
[09:23] <Tracker1> is it possible the installer blows up because of a long password.... ie: 3l3ph4nt--trunk
[09:23] <m3talc0re> i can't program to save my life
[09:23] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: yea logout and select sessions this time
[09:23] <m3talc0re> i'm a graphics artist plain and simple
[09:23] <ttyfscker> and pick KDE
[09:23] <bbrazil> MrKeuner: manually check is't enabled - and verify the content handlers
[09:23] <m3talc0re> aight
[09:23] <CanadaGradeEh> I can't either. That's why I'm here to learn.
[09:23] <m3talc0re> ctrl+alt+f1?
[09:23] <Tracker1> not my password, but similar in style/length
[09:23] <ttyfscker> no
[09:23] <m3talc0re> or backspace?
[09:23] <CanadaGradeEh> 3D modelling or Photoshop?
[09:23] <CanadaGradeEh> Or both?
[09:23] <bruenig> I know Tracker1's password sweet
[09:23] <Tracker1> lol
[09:23] <m3talc0re> photoshop
[09:23] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: just logout from the menu
[09:23] <m3talc0re> i'm struggling with 3d, lol
[09:23] <Tracker1> nope, that's my "example" password.. lol
[09:23] <m3talc0re> aight
[09:23] <CanadaGradeEh> There needs to be a photoshop port for Linux
[09:23] <arooni> folks i have a string.... 'foo' and i'd like to use grep to replace all instances of 'foo' (exact match) with 'bar' .... can i do this?
[09:23] <CanadaGradeEh> Because GIMP is the suck
[09:23] <m3talc0re> yes indeed
[09:24] <arooni> and if so, how?
[09:24] <m3talc0re> gimp is actually pretty good
[09:24] <m3talc0re> better than psp
[09:24] <bbrazil> CanadaGradeEh: blender for 3d
[09:24] <m3talc0re> brb
[09:24] <CanadaGradeEh> True, but I hate
[09:24] <bbrazil> arooni: sed s/foo/bar/
[09:24] <CanadaGradeEh> The billions of windows with GIMP
[09:24] <CanadaGradeEh> That's what I got last time I tried it anyway
[09:24] <ttyfscker> most of the stuff that you use in linux is built on gimp CanadaGradeEh
[09:24] <Tracker1> have it running now with a shorter password, without special chars.. will see if that helps.. *shrug*
[09:24] <bbrazil> arooni: grep only searches
[09:24] <CanadaGradeEh> Like, GIMP is good... just... the windows... oh god, the windows...
[09:25] <arooni> bbrazil: so i cant use it for text replacmetn?
[09:25] <bbrazil> arooni: no
[09:25] <arooni> damn
[09:25] <ttyfscker> oh you mean gimps user interface
[09:25] <arooni> any utility that fills that void?
[09:25] <Tracker1> gimpshop mods are a step up... but eek.
[09:25] <CanadaGradeEh> Yea
[09:25] <bbrazil> arooni: use sed
[09:25] <Jimmy89> so do you guys know how to change the wep key index # ?
[09:25] <ttyfscker> yea i agree that it needs to be more compact
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> arooni: replace foo bar file.txt (replace is available if you have mysql client tools installed)
[09:25] <arooni> ahh thats what you were telling me
[09:25] <CanadaGradeEh> <3 Photoshop
[09:25] <Jimmy89> eg changing it to key#2 from the standard key #1 ?
[09:25] <arooni> is either one recursive?
[09:25] <bruenig> !weo
[09:25] <MrKeuner> bbrazil/ I have no idea where to check manually, could you hint a bit
[09:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about weo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:25] <bruenig> !wep
[09:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:25] <bbrazil> MrKeuner: /etc/apache2
[09:25] <arooni> or can i call it recursively
[09:25] <CanadaGradeEh> Seriously, of all applications, why can't they have a port for PS?
[09:25] <RedGhost> maybe a stupid question, is there a firewall running by default on ubuntu, and if so where is it configured ? ? ?
[09:26] <arooni> (for multiple directories)
[09:26] <MrKeuner> bbrazil/ all of them?
[09:26] <bbrazil> RedGhost: no
[09:26] <m3talc0re> yeah
[09:26] <bruenig> RedGhost, iptables
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[09:26] <m3talc0re> i'd kill for ps on linux
[09:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:26] <m3talc0re> but
[09:26] <cykon> RedGhost:try firestarter
[09:26] <m3talc0re> at least future mac users wont have photoshop either :P
[09:26] <RedGhost> alright thanks
[09:26] <CanadaGradeEh> lol?
[09:26] <CanadaGradeEh> How so?
[09:26] <bruenig> !info firestarter
[09:26] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[09:26] <cykon> really nice gui firewall configuration
[09:26] <Tracker1> CanadaGradeEh, heh, well, Adobe can't seem to keep their OSX releases on schedule, what do you want?
[09:26] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: you in kde now?
[09:26] <m3talc0re> yeah
[09:26] <ttyfscker> sucks doesnt it
[09:26] <arooni> bbrazil: will sed handle recursivenes?
[09:26] <ttyfscker> haha
[09:26] <CanadaGradeEh> BUT
[09:26] <CanadaGradeEh> I don't use Mac
[09:26] <m3talc0re> kinda like an ugly version of suse
[09:27] <CanadaGradeEh> I rather dislike it.
[09:27] <m3talc0re> yeah it does
[09:27] <ttyfscker> xfce is cool
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> arooni: you need to pass it a list of files
[09:27] <Tracker1> I like it okay, want a macbook pro..
[09:27] <RedGhost> alright installing firestarter, thanks again
[09:27] <Yon> so can anyone help me or are you all nobs
[09:27] <m3talc0re> the new Macs using x86 chips aren't photoshop compatible canada
[09:27] <Tracker1> still another year before I'll let myself upgrade though.
[09:27] <ttyfscker> i like it because its easy to customize and it doesnt use a big footprint on your system
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> arooni: sed is stream editor -- it needs to be fed stuff.
[09:27] <CanadaGradeEh> I'd rather use Windows then Mac
[09:27] <bruenig> !on-topic
[09:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about on-topic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:27] <CanadaGradeEh> lol /pwned
[09:27] <CanadaGradeEh> GG Mac, GG
[09:27] <bruenig> !ontopic
[09:27] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:28] <Yon> !ontopic
[09:28] <bruenig> !offtopic
[09:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:28] <m3talc0re> i think i liked the liquid crap brown "Mexican" theme better than this...
[09:28] <bruenig> !language
[09:28] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:28] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: lmao
[09:28] <bruenig> lol
[09:28] <Yon> !porn
[09:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about porn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:28] <arooni> is there a way of getting grep to print stuff out more nicely?
[09:28] <fivre> @lart everyone
[09:28] <Tracker1> CanadaGradeEh, I do a lot of asp.net work, so am stuck in windows.. I like asp.net (c# etc), just not fond of windows.
[09:28] <CanadaGradeEh> Why didn't you just change the theme and background?
[09:28] <fivre> :(
[09:28] <CanadaGradeEh> Not hard
[09:28] <bruenig> Yon, watch out there they will ban you if you aren't careful
[09:28] <ttyfscker> i thought that ubuntu was suppose to change the sh*t brown them in dapper anyway
[09:28] <ttyfscker> why didnt it happen?
[09:28] <Yon> !me beingastupidbot
[09:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about me beingastupidbot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:29] <Yon> !me being a stupid bot
[09:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about me being a stupid bot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> Yon: stop molesting the bot.
[09:29] <bruenig> Yon is about to go
[09:29] <Tracker1> !friends
[09:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about friends - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:29] <Flannel> ttyfscker: That wasn't the plan at all.  What made you think that?
[09:29] <ttyfscker> !pussy
[09:29] <bbrazil> arooni: what do you mean by recursiveness?
[09:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about pussy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:29] <Yon> ok than can anyone help me with my problem
[09:29] <Tracker1> lol
[09:29] <bruenig> !running a government, just like good ole George Bush.
[09:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about running a government, just like good ole George Bush. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:29] <ttyfscker> lmao
[09:29] <arooni> bbrazil: well i was hoping it could figure out which files it needed to replace for
[09:30] <Flannel> !botabuse
[09:30] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[09:30] <Tracker1> sigh, too bad the dems threw up about the only worse candidate last election.
[09:30] <CanadaGradeEh> What kind of scripting languages will I need to learn when dealing with server management/administration? I'm rather newb at knowing anything about scripting and coding and the languages as well
[09:30] <ttyfscker> Flannel:: i read it on ubuntu's site a while back.. it was in the faq or something
[09:30] <bbrazil> arooni: you have to provide a list. see find and xargs
[09:30] <m3talc0re> well this sux
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> arooni: sed is a stream editor, you need to feed it some files for it to work on.
[09:30] <bruenig> !language
[09:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:30] <ale_> hello, does anybody know in which package are pnmfile and pnmscale to find?
[09:30] <m3talc0re> i think i'm going back to the mexican theme
[09:30] <ttyfscker> Flannel:: it was back when breezy was newly released
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> CanadaGradeEh: depends on what kind of servers you want to manage.
[09:30] <bbrazil> arooni: try apt-file search
[09:30] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: try xfce
[09:30] <bbrazil> ale_: ^
[09:30] <m3talc0re> link?
[09:30] <Tracker1> CanadaGradeEh, depends on what you want to do... tsh, perl, python, ruby, php, c# take your pick..
[09:31] <Flannel> ttyfscker: No, it wasn't.  That was never the plan, although, brown did get changed to orange, but the themes are still similar, with the next set the theme might be different.
[09:31] <m3talc0re> so i can see some screnies :P
[09:31] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> !info pnmfile
[09:31] <ubotu> Package pnmfile does not exist in dapper
[09:31] <arooni> what about my grep question?  is there a way to get it to print out nicer?
[09:31] <arooni> :P
[09:31] <bbrazil> !find pnmfile
[09:31] <m3talc0re> oh the x one
[09:31] <ubotu> No packages matching 'pnmfile' could be found
[09:31] <cykon> ....nah don't tell him to use xfce
[09:31] <CanadaGradeEh> What is I just wanted to do some basic stuff since I'm a newb? Like, maybe... a 24/7  file server taht can also double as a host for my site?
[09:31] <CanadaGradeEh> Could that work? What would I use for that?
[09:31] <cykon> i luv it...but i also luv the terminal ;)
[09:31] <bruenig> apt-file is not a command bbrazil
[09:31] <m3talc0re> i need to check my disk space
[09:31] <jetson> Hi,all
[09:31] <bruenig> apt-cache search perhaps is what you are looking at?
[09:31] <bbrazil> bruenig: it is, you musn't have it installed
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> CanadaGradeEh: any linux distribution (including ubuntu). Server "management" is something else.
[09:31] <ttyfscker> Flannel:: i know what i read.. it was in the part about Why this and Why that.. where it explains why they chose the things they did.. and it said that ubuntu was considering changing the theme colors for each release starting with dapper..
[09:31] <bruenig> bbrazil, wha?
[09:32] <ttyfscker> if you call that orange then i guess they did
[09:32] <ttyfscker> however it still looks like brown to me
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> m3talc0re: df -h
[09:32] <CanadaGradeEh> m3talc0re:: apt-get friends
[09:32] <CanadaGradeEh> ;) lol
[09:32] <ale_> bbrazil: and synaptic doesn't find anything either for "pnmfile" (in name and description")
[09:32] <MatthewV> wasn't the theme going to be changed post dapper
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> ale_: what is it?
[09:32] <m3talc0re> who wants friends?
[09:32] <CanadaGradeEh> :(
[09:32] <m3talc0re> i don't have any friends :P
[09:32] <MatthewV> and the dapper theme was orange at one stage, now its 'caramel'
[09:32] <Flannel> ttyfscker: no, if that was said, it was said by someone who didn't know better.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth  Read "Will brown always be the desktop color
[09:32] <bbrazil> ale_: have you tried looking with apt-file?
[09:33] <CanadaGradeEh> I do, I just ignore them all
[09:33] <m3talc0re> i haven't had any friends since like 3rd grade
[09:33] <ale_> bbrazil: no... i will now.
[09:33] <CanadaGradeEh> I'd rather be a hermit
[09:33] <m3talc0re> me too
[09:33] <ttyfscker> i dont know why anybody really cares about the default theme.. who wants to be so lame as to use a default theme on any linux dist
[09:33] <CanadaGradeEh> Friends suck. Yey computer
[09:33] <CanadaGradeEh> lolol
[09:33] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:33] <ale_> fyrestrtr: pnm tools are small programms to handle pnm images from scripts
[09:33] <CanadaGradeEh> I'll have time for friends next summer. Too damn busy this summer
[09:33] <m3talc0re> all my friends are terrorists or counter-terrorists
[09:33] <m3talc0re> CSS !
[09:33] <CanadaGradeEh> !!
[09:33] <CanadaGradeEh> yey
[09:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:33] <Tracker1> *sigh* last time on this, going back to xp if it crashes on install again..
[09:33] <Tracker1> :(
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> ale_: maybe I can find something, hold on.
[09:33] <CanadaGradeEh> I'm in CAL this season eh?
[09:33] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:34] <m3talc0re> i miss it
[09:34] <CanadaGradeEh> Well, I was until I decided to go Linux LOL
[09:34] <m3talc0re> i haven't played CSS in about 7 months now
[09:34] <bruenig> Tracker1, go with XP, it wont crash on install just constantly after install
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> ale_: try apt-get install pnm2ppa -- that might give you what you need.
[09:34] <CanadaGradeEh> If I have the time (which I doubt because of college), I'm going to find a good team for next season
[09:34] <CanadaGradeEh> I got a good enough rep in CAL now :)
[09:34] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:34] <Tracker1> bruenig, lol.. the os never crashes on a non-hardware/driver issue... but I don't like MS's politics.
[09:34] <MrKeuner>  #a2enmod php5 says that php5 is already enabled but firefox keeps asking where to download. apache2 is restarted several times. I have also reinstalled all apache2 and php packages from scratch with no luck, what should I check?
[09:35] <m3talc0re> i always played int he IllSkillz server Office 24/7
[09:35] <CanadaGradeEh> EWWWWWWWWW
[09:35] <CanadaGradeEh> I'm sorry, I'm just really, really sick of office
[09:35] <ttyfscker> !offtopic
[09:35] <CanadaGradeEh> lol
[09:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:35] <ttyfscker> :p
[09:35] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:35] <m3talc0re> i miss my 19" monitor
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> MrKeuner: what url are you typing when it gives you this?
[09:35] <m3talc0re> i miss my logitech Z5500's
[09:35] <CanadaGradeEh> if it starts scrolling really fast I'll shut up. Until then, can we? lol :P
[09:35] <bruenig> this channel is far from getting back on topic,
[09:35] <CanadaGradeEh> I would miss both...
[09:35] <m3talc0re> i miss my logitech g15 keyboard and mx518 mouse
[09:35] <CanadaGradeEh> but I never had anything near as good
[09:35] <MrKeuner> fyrestrtr/ a local url ending with some.php
[09:35] <m3talc0re> and my 7800GT
[09:36] <CanadaGradeEh> *stares blankly at his crappy, dark 14.5" CRT"
[09:36] <m3talc0re> and my 74gb raptor hdd
[09:36] <gehel> Hi ! I get a strange error "Can't connect to http::80 (Bad hostname 'http:')" with apt-cacher. I checked /etc/apt/sources.list which seems correct. Any idea ?
[09:36] <ttyfscker> anybody in here use pearpc?
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> MrKeuner: *exactly* what? http://localhost/~username/foo.php ? or http://localhost/foo.php ?
[09:36] <Tracker1> MrKeuner, what happens if you type php at a terminal prompt?
[09:36] <Jimmy89> who can i talk to for help with WEP?
[09:36] <m3talc0re> man, i dumped nearly $3k into that computer
[09:36] <CanadaGradeEh> I've got generic crap for my keyboard/mouse
[09:36] <Jimmy89> who is a linux WEP guru on here?
[09:36] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89:: what do you need help with ?
[09:36] <Flannel> gehel: paste your sources, sounds like you've got something funky going on
[09:36] <ttyfscker> i might be able to help you
[09:36] <m3talc0re> got some lube tty?
[09:36] <m3talc0re> :P
[09:37] <CanadaGradeEh> Dude, if you have all that 1337 stuff in it... dude... that processor has so much potential. OC IT
[09:37] <Dimensions> hi ... i want to install ubuntu with alternate cd when i install it during installation when its installing grub .. it says unable to install Grub on MBR .... i tried lilo instead aswell but none of them could be installed what should i do ?
[09:37] <gehel> Flannel: one of the problematic line : deb http://localhost:3142/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:37] <CanadaGradeEh> I got my brothers to 2.5 GHz on stock heatsink fan
[09:37] <MrKeuner> fyrestrtr/ :) thank you very much. I just did not realize that the url was starting with file:///
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> Dimensions: describe your computer setup.
[09:37] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: ive got the lube if you have the hole
[09:37] <CanadaGradeEh> Then he found out and killed me
[09:37] <Jimmy89> ttyfskcker: i am trying to connect to a WEP encrypted network, though i need to store my wep key as key#2
[09:37] <m3talc0re> i've got the hole big boy ;)
[09:37] <m3talc0re> lmfao
[09:37] <ttyfscker> lmao
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> MrKeuner: sometimes, its just the simple things :)
[09:37] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:37] <ttyfscker> ok enough im going to help Jimmy89
[09:37] <Flannel> gehel: yeah, that should be http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper etc etc
[09:38] <m3talc0re> i've got a 2.6ghz celeron in this beast!
[09:38] <Dimensions> fyrestrtr: ... its a 400 mhz small  sized round  computer with 40 GB hdd and 256 rm
[09:38] <jbrimble> Anyone know any good games for linux?
[09:38] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89:: you mean your router is set to use Wep #2 right?
[09:38] <MrKeuner> fyrestrtr/ I have reinstalled tens of packages since I could not notice that :)
[09:38] <Ademan> am i nuts trying to get xubuntu running on a 300mhz 96mb ram computer?
[09:38] <Jimmy89> yes
[09:38] <gehel> Flannel: let me check ... funny, it did work without the proxy ...
[09:38] <m3talc0re> ouch
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Dimensions: only one hard disk? any other operating system on it?
[09:38] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89:: then all you need is to know that key
[09:38] <m3talc0re> and i thougth i was bad off
[09:38] <ttyfscker> and enter it into your networking
[09:39] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: you actually need to have the key entered into the same key number on the client side
[09:39] <Ademan> it handled fluxbox incredibly well... but i'm worried about xfce
[09:39] <manuelom> hola
[09:39] <Dimensions> yes fyrestrtr only one hdd and nothing on it i formated it while installing ubuntu to ext3 with swap
[09:39] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89:: it should use the right key as long as the key is right
[09:39] <manuelom> buenos dias
[09:39] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: eg, WEP #2, needs to be stored as wep#2 to authenticate correctly
[09:39] <Flannel> !es
[09:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:39] <CanadaGradeEh> I've got a 500 MHz pentium thing here from a friend. 128 ram
[09:40] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: no, it dosnt seem too
[09:40] <CanadaGradeEh> SOOOOOO installing damn small linux on it
[09:40] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89::  afaik it will try the next key # if the first one fails
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Dimensions: okay, did you manually format it, or have ubuntu format it?
[09:40] <manuelom> espaaa
[09:40] <ttyfscker> no espanol
[09:40] <m3talc0re> i was a hardware junkie
[09:40] <manuelom> yo espaol
[09:40] <CanadaGradeEh> Same.
[09:40] <ttyfscker> Chinga tu mares
[09:40] <m3talc0re> spent alot of nights in public bathrooms on my knees earning money for my addiction :(
[09:40] <tsume> eww, spanish
[09:40] <m3talc0re> :P
[09:40] <CanadaGradeEh> lolol
[09:41] <tsume> asian languages > *
[09:41] <CanadaGradeEh> (00:40:52) m3talc0re: spent alot of nights in public bathrooms on my knees earning money for my addiction :(
[09:41] <CanadaGradeEh> (00:40:53) tsume: eww, spanish
[09:41] <Dimensions> i formated it manually fyrestrtr i think
[09:41] <manuelom> manolo
[09:41] <CanadaGradeEh> priorities?
[09:41] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: ok will try that now, though it didnt seem to work in the past
[09:41] <CanadaGradeEh> metal is talking about sucky sucky...
[09:41] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:41] <Flannel> !language
[09:41] <CanadaGradeEh> and then I see "(00:40:52) m3talc0re: spent alot of nights in public bathrooms on my knees earning money for my addiction :(
[09:41] <CanadaGradeEh> (00:40:53) tsume: eww, spanish"
[09:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:41] <manuelom> espaa
[09:41] <m3talc0re> "come on man, just one more stick of ram"
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> Dimensions: try the installation again, and this time, have ubuntu format the disk for you. You might have not put the partitions in the right order.
[09:41] <m3talc0re> :P
[09:41] <m3talc0re> aight
[09:42] <manuelom> que hora es
[09:42] <gehel> Flannel: still the same problem ... what I dont understand is why it looks for a "http:" hostname. And the logs give me : "getting http://http://localhost:3142/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz"
[09:42] <Flannel> !es
[09:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:42] <m3talc0re> i got xubuntu downloaded and crap now
[09:42] <CanadaGradeEh> 82%
[09:42] <CanadaGradeEh> almost there :D
[09:42] <tsume> !jp
[09:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about jp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:42] <m3talc0re> brb, gonna do all this crap again
[09:42] <tsume> :P
[09:42] <CanadaGradeEh> I don't give a rats ass if I'm tired for work tomorrow. Only online training anyway. I'm staying up and linuxing it up
[09:42] <Flannel> gehel: paste your whole sources.list
[09:42] <CanadaGradeEh> Seriously, m3tal, I'm curious what you plan to use Linux for first
[09:42] <CanadaGradeEh> damnit
[09:42] <manuelom> alguien que hable espaol
[09:42] <CanadaGradeEh> lol
[09:43] <gehel> Flannel: in which channel ? Here ?
[09:43] <Flannel> !paste
[09:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:43] <Dimensions> fyrestrtr:  sorry i dont rem exactly if i did manually or ubuntu did bcoz i know remember when i was doing it ... (on friday) it instead of giving me option where to put swap it took hda1 for partition installation and swap on hda5 is that a problem ?
[09:43] <CanadaGradeEh> Hey, here's aquestion for y'all!
[09:43] <manuelom> adios
[09:43] <manuelom> buenos dias
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> Dimensions: you already have existing partitions on the disk?
[09:43] <CanadaGradeEh> Is there an application for displaying CPU information and hardware temperatures?
[09:43] <CanadaGradeEh> Or just CPU temperature I guess
[09:44] <CanadaGradeEh> !temperature
[09:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about temperature - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:44] <CanadaGradeEh> lol
[09:44] <Dimensions> fyrestrtr:  no i formated it during installation and there was nothing left on hdd
[09:44] <m3talc0re> aight, i'm on the x crap now
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> CanadaGradeEh: there is a panel applet for that.
[09:44] <CanadaGradeEh> orly?
[09:44] <CanadaGradeEh> Called what?
[09:44] <CanadaGradeEh> I assume I'll look in Synaptic for it
[09:44] <Flannel> CanadaGradeEh: nah, just right click "add to panel"
[09:44] <m3talc0re> ya rly!
[09:44] <gehel> Flannel: ok, sent under the name gehel
[09:45] <Flannel> gehel: got a url?
[09:45] <ale_> fyrestrtr, bbrazil: i've finally found out: it was netpbm!
[09:45] <ale_> thankyou for your help.
[09:45] <gehel> Flannel: sorry : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18757
[09:45] <Flannel> gehel: no problem
[09:46] <m3talc0re> blah
[09:46] <m3talc0re> i'm goin' back to the default one
[09:46] <m3talc0re> what's the name of this one?
[09:46] <m3talc0re> xfce?
[09:47] <Flannel> gehel: hmm, looks alright.  I imagine it's some problem with your proxy then.  Can you go to http://localhost:3142/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ in a browser, and get there without two https?
[09:47] <ttyfscker> gehel:: why are you using localhost for everything in your sources.list?
[09:47] <Flannel> ttyfscker: he's got a proxy setup
[09:47] <ttyfscker> oh
[09:47] <m3talc0re> tty, what's this one called when i killall?
[09:47] <Brokenstein> can anyone help me detect my external hd? it is fat32
[09:47] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: you shouldnt have to do that again
[09:48] <m3talc0re> oh
[09:48] <Dimensions> fyrestrtr: ?
[09:48] <Brokenstein> but i kinda need it
[09:48] <m3talc0re> just logout then?
[09:48] <CanadaGradeEh> Hmm, is there an applet for monitoring my temperature?
[09:48] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re::unless you are wanting to switch back to a the gdm login manager
[09:48] <soundray> Brokenstein: how is it connected? USB?
[09:48] <m3talc0re> it's called a thermometer Canada :P
[09:48] <Brokenstein> yup
[09:48] <m3talc0re> i am tty
[09:48] <m3talc0re> back to the standard brown thing
[09:48] <Brokenstein> 80 gig proMagic
[09:49] <ttyfscker> there is an app to switch your display manager
[09:49] <ttyfscker> i dont recall its name
[09:49] <m3talc0re> what's the kill all thing?
[09:49] <soundray> Brokenstein: normally it should be mounted automatically.
[09:49] <CanadaGradeEh> I meant CPU temp
[09:49] <CanadaGradeEh> smarty pants
[09:49] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:49] <ttyfscker> it was switchdesk in rh
[09:49] <CanadaGradeEh> Apparently...
[09:49] <ic56> I :set revins but I can still backspace beyond where I entered insert mode.  Howcome?  I use vim 6.3 on Debian Linux.
[09:50] <CanadaGradeEh> my CPU is running between 134 and 1083 GHz
[09:50] <CanadaGradeEh> lolol
[09:50] <_tyrone> When I start gnome, I get an error saying "System exception: IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred"
[09:50] <CanadaGradeEh> it keeps going between 134 and 1083 GHz for some reason
[09:50] <Brokenstein> where would it be mounted to then?
[09:50] <soundray> Brokenstein: in a terminal, type 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt'
[09:50] <ic56> ooops, sorry
[09:50] <Flannel> ic56: er, if you're on debian, you might try asking in #debian, or since it's probably not a debian thing, could try ##linux
[09:50] <m3talc0re> tty, is this xfce?
[09:50] <Brokenstein> k ill try
[09:50] <ic56> Flannel: that was meant for #vim
[09:50] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: when  you install xfce all it will use gdm
[09:51] <Flannel> ic56: yeah, wasn't sure if there was a #vim channel ;)
[09:51] <soundray> Brokenstein: usually to something under /media. You can check with 'mount | grep media'
[09:51] <ttyfscker> did you already install xubuntu ?
[09:51] <m3talc0re> yeah
[09:51] <m3talc0re> i'm on it right now
[09:51] <ttyfscker> ok
[09:51] <ttyfscker> in that case you need to sudo killall kdm && sudo gdm
[09:51] <m3talc0re> aight
[09:51] <gehel> Flannel: most interesting, if I get " http://localhost:3142/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz" in my browser, I get the file ...
[09:51] <m3talc0re> brb... again...
[09:52] <Brokenstein> soundray: special device does not exist
[09:52] <Flannel> gehel: that is odd.  You might've found a bug.  Do you get the double thing with just the directory listing? it might have to do with trailing slashes
[09:52] <soundray> Brokenstein: do a 'lsusb' and see if any of the lines correspond to your external hard disk drive.
[09:53] <Brokenstein> yes bus 4 device 5
[09:53] <Flannel> gehel: I'd check launchpad to see if someone has filed the bug already, either with apt itself, or the proxy program youre using.
[09:53] <gehel> Flannel: apt-cacher doest allow directory listing. It gives "Sorry, not allowed to fetch that type of file:"
[09:53] <ttyfscker> why would the proxy be on localhost is what i am wondering
[09:53] <Flannel> gehel: right, I'm talking about in a webbrowser
[09:53] <m3talc0re> how do i get the dvd plugin?
[09:53] <CanadaGradeEh> Crap, guys
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> ok, ttyfscker, this is for you
[09:54] <_tyrone> When I startup Gnome, I get an error saying "System exception: IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred". Can anyone help me?
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> The download finished. This is what I got
[09:54] <soundray> Brokenstein: run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then unplug the drive, wait a few seconds, and plug it in again. Note any error messages.
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> (00:40:52) m3talc0re: spent alot of nights in public bathrooms on my knees earning money for my addiction :(
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> (00:40:53) tsume: eww, spanish
[09:54] <m3talc0re> lol
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> woops
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> nvm that
[09:54] <Brokenstein> k one sec
[09:54] <m3talc0re> lmfao
[09:54] <gehel> Flannel: yep, from a browser, I try to access apt-cacher (my proxy) which refuses to give directory listings
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> Get:831 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main python2.4-twisted-conch 1:0.6.0-5ubuntu1 [154kB] 
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> Get:832 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main python2.4-twisted 2.2.0-2ubuntu1 [8182B] 
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> Get:833 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main slocate 3.0.beta.r3-1 [30.1kB] 
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> Fetched 480MB in 55m42s (144kB/s)
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option.
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs
[09:54] <Flannel> !paste
[09:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:54] <CanadaGradeEh> .. thaks lol
[09:55] <Tracker1> sigh.. well, at least I got 3:5 computers here on ubuntu.. :(
[09:55] <Flannel> gehel: ah, I see.  I'd check launchpad for bugs with apt-cacher
[09:55] <ttyfscker> CanadaGradeEh::  what are you installing?
[09:55] <CanadaGradeEh> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:55] <llama32> AMD Sempron is K6 right?
[09:55] <ttyfscker> ouch
[09:56] <CanadaGradeEh> I already changed the source.list from warty to dapper.
[09:56] <CanadaGradeEh> I already got the update
[09:56] <ttyfscker> are you in breezy or something?
[09:56] <CanadaGradeEh> now that.
[09:56] <soundray> llama32: no, it can be K7 or K8
[09:56] <Flannel> CanadaGradeEh: Er...  warty to dapper?
[09:56] <Tracker1> if I can get 5.10 to install will apt-get dist-upgrade get me into dapper?
[09:56] <Flannel> CanadaGradeEh: you need to upgrade one at a time
[09:56] <m3talc0re> hey
[09:56] <CanadaGradeEh> .....
[09:56] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: tried just putting the key in, it dosnt seem to get a dhcp.
[09:56] <m3talc0re> how come it says i can't mount my ntfs partition?
[09:56] <Flannel> CanadaGradeEh: warty > hoary > breezy > dapper
[09:56] <llama32> soundray: can i use things optimized for K6?
[09:56] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89::  is there some particular reason your using key #2?
[09:56] <Flannel> Tracker1: yes
[09:56] <CanadaGradeEh> That's a lot more downloading 0.0
[09:57] <gehel> Flannel: thanks for your help ! I'll get back if I find something interesting ...
[09:57] <CanadaGradeEh> *tear*
[09:57] <soundray> llama32: yes
[09:57] <Flannel> Tracker1: actually, there's a better way, but yes, you can upgrade easily.
[09:57] <Tracker1> flannel, thx, will try that in the morning before reverting to the shame (XP)
[09:57] <Tracker1> Flannel, what's the better way?
[09:57] <m3talc0re> tty, how do i get a dvd plugin on here so i can watch dvd's?
[09:57] <Flannel> Tracker1: gksudo update-manager  it'll ask you if you want to upgrade
[09:57] <llama32> k thanks soundray
[09:58] <soundray> Brokenstein: I have to catch a train. Hope you can fix your problem. Ask the channel again if necessary.
[09:58] <Tracker1> Flannel, thx.. will probably ask again in the morning if I can get 5.10 on...
[09:58] <CanadaGradeEh> So yea... I'm going to kill tty now :P
[09:58] <CanadaGradeEh> haha
[09:58] <Tracker1> 'night all.
[09:58] <CanadaGradeEh> ok, guess I gotta get changing everything over to hoary
[09:58] <Flannel> Tracker1: just /msg ubotu upgrade
[09:58] <Brokenstein> soundray yeah its repeating some errors
[09:58] <ttyfscker> m3talc0re:: the easiest way to get all of your codecs is use easyubuntu
[09:58] <ttyfscker> !easyubuntu
[09:58] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:58] <Tracker1> thanks Flannel, ttyfscker
[09:58] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: no choice of my own, school uses key#2
[09:59] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89:: i see..
[09:59] <CanadaGradeEh> Hmm.
[09:59] <CanadaGradeEh> It provides a link to upgrade to breezy and dapper
[09:59] <CanadaGradeEh> nothing about hoary though
[09:59] <CanadaGradeEh> crap.
[09:59] <Flannel> CanadaGradeEh: if you go to that link, it'll recurse backwards
[09:59] <soundray> Brokenstein: so at least you're on track towards solving it. Good luck.
[09:59] <ttyfscker> i really dont know then.. there is probably an ifconfig eth#  option to pick which key to use
[09:59] <ttyfscker> the gui probably just lacks that feature
[09:59] <CanadaGradeEh> GOOOOOOOOOD
[09:59] <CanadaGradeEh> I wish I could just install azureus and torrent dapper
[09:59] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: can you please tell me the command then ?
[10:00] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: i get lost in man pages
[10:00] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89:: i dont know it right off
[10:00] <m3talc0re> oo
[10:00] <m3talc0re> they're talking about my harley on discovery science
[10:00] <CanadaGradeEh> ah the hell with it. I'm just downloading drapper regularly. No torrent, no command line, nothing
[10:00] <CanadaGradeEh> FTP style
[10:01] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/iwconfig.8.html
[10:01] <Flannel> CanadaGradeEh: warty should have bittorrent, just download the .torrent and use the headless one
[10:01] <CanadaGradeEh> I installed it
[10:01] <CanadaGradeEh> It's not installed though lol
[10:01] <CanadaGradeEh> It's not under the applications drop down
[10:01] <CanadaGradeEh> and when I access the .torrent file, it says theres no app to open it
[10:02] <m3talc0re> aight, i installed that easyubuntu thing
[10:02] <Flannel> CanadaGradeEh: ah, right.  it is optional in warty.  Go to a terminal, type 'bt' hit tab twice, get a list of your options
[10:02] <m3talc0re> now what?
[10:02] <CanadaGradeEh> k..
[10:02] <CanadaGradeEh> ... which to choose? lol
[10:02] <Flannel> CanadaGradeEh: you're looking for a btdownload and then (well, in more modern ones) there's a few choices
[10:03] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89:: iwconfig
[10:03] <CanadaGradeEh> I guess btloadgui
[10:03] <ttyfscker> Jimmy the option enc will let you change the key # you use
[10:04] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: so i just edit that in the interfaces file?
[10:04] <Jimmy89> just add a line saying
[10:04] <ttyfscker> no
[10:04] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: then what?
[10:04] <ttyfscker> iwconfig eth# enc XXXXXXXXXX 2
[10:04] <ttyfscker> im pretty sure is the syntax
[10:04] <Jimmy89> ok
[10:04] <CanadaGradeEh> Yea, I'm really lost
[10:04] <Jimmy89> will try
[10:04] <ttyfscker> i dont know for sure
[10:04] <CanadaGradeEh> bt <tab><tab> brings up a lot of options. What now?
[10:05] <Brokenstein> can anyone help me detect my usb hd?
[10:05] <ttyfscker> you looking for btdownloadgui?
[10:05] <CanadaGradeEh> I don't know!
[10:05] <CanadaGradeEh> lol
[10:05] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker: unrecognized command enc
[10:06] <ttyfscker> hold on jimmy
[10:06] <Cynical> I really wish I knew why one CPU is running at 100% and the other is at 50%
[10:06] <CanadaGradeEh> Dual core?
[10:06] <Cynical> yeah
[10:06] <CanadaGradeEh> Athlon x2?
[10:07] <Cynical> cetrino duo
[10:07] <CanadaGradeEh> Hrmmm
[10:07] <Jimmy89> ttyfscker, ill be back in 5 min
[10:07] <CanadaGradeEh> Not sure. Only AMD exp
[10:07] <CanadaGradeEh> great
[10:07] <CanadaGradeEh> Ok, how do I get bit torrent to work?
[10:07] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89:: it says iwconfig eth0 enc XXXXX-XXXXX on 2
[10:07] <Cynical> thats just great
[10:07] <Cynical> anyone with centrino duo exp?
[10:07] <damnation> what kernel version is the current ubuntu?
[10:08] <ttyfscker> celeste?
[10:08] <CanadaGradeEh> Maybe ask on the forums, and also check www.overclock.net
[10:08] <CanadaGradeEh> They most likely will be able to help you over there
[10:08] <Cynical> overclock.net?
[10:08] <Cynical> lol
[10:08] <CanadaGradeEh> Hardware junkies
[10:08] <CanadaGradeEh> lol
[10:08] <Cynical> ok that makes sense I guess
[10:08] <Cynical> however little it really does...
[10:09] <CanadaGradeEh> Well, they all like to overclock, mod, and game.
[10:09] <Bergcube> Cynical~  I have no experience with those CPUs.  But I think you should keep in mind that it's not WRONG (in itself) for a processor to run at 100% load.  Now, if your computer provably does no work it's another matter.
[10:09] <CanadaGradeEh> They all know a lot about hardware, particularly CPUs
[10:09] <andyshack> evening. im having some troubles with azereus thinking its firewalled. do i need to open a port in ubuntu somewhere ASWEL as in the router ?
[10:09] <Cynical> it doesn't do shit but xchat and download porn
[10:09] <Cynical> oops
[10:09] <Cynical> no porn
[10:09] <CanadaGradeEh> liar
[10:09] <andyshack> what more does man need ?
[10:09] <ttyfscker> andyshack:: do you have your ports forwarding to your ubuntu box from the router?
[10:10] <andyshack> yeah i do tty
[10:10] <ttyfscker> andyshack:: there isnt any blocked ports in ubuntu by default
[10:10] <CanadaGradeEh> Someone help me with my bittorrent now?
[10:10] <CanadaGradeEh> =\
[10:10] <Lynoure> andyshack: I read both more and man as command names there =)
[10:10] <Cynical> hey hey, you don't know me
[10:10] <andyshack> thats what ive been reading in the forums
[10:10] <Bergcube> Cynical~  Does it use swapspace?
[10:10] <Cynical> no
[10:10] <Yon> ttyfscker: i'm trying the same thing atm that jimmy was we have the same cards and i get this operation is not permited
[10:11] <ttyfscker> Yon, put sudo in front of what your trying to do
[10:11] <axyjo> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[10:11] <axyjo> whoops
[10:11] <Bergcube> Cynical~  Then I would tend to agree with you.....  It's strange for it to be so loaded.
[10:11] <Cynical> and gmome-system-monitor says nothing as far as processes
[10:11] <andyshack> i installed new sun java, stuffed azereus in there, whacked in 5 torrents.. one dl before i noticed then the others have been just sitting at 0 not wanting to connect to anything. theres nothing wrong with the torrents themselves as ive tried them on another box ;/
[10:12] <ttyfscker> andyshack:: what ports do you have forwarded?
[10:12] <Yon> ttyfsker: i did same responce will try restarting the laptop
[10:12] <void^> andyshack: did you run update-alternatives to activate sun's jre?
[10:12] <ttyfscker> Yon:: that wont matter
[10:12] <Yon> is there a way to do a limited boot and try and do it in console
[10:13] <axyjo_>  /msg nickserv link axyjo akshay
[10:13] <Yon> yeh me and jimmy go to the same school and have the same anoying tech office
[10:13] <axyjo_> uhoh
[10:13] <Bergcube> Cynical~  I guess you have something in common with me then.  I really should read the man pages for ps.  Perhaps that would help you too.
[10:13] <void^> axyjo_: time to get a new password
[10:13] <CanadaGradeEh> void...
[10:13] <Cynical> ps?
[10:13] <ttyfscker> Yon
[10:13] <ttyfscker> try this
[10:13] <andyshack> naye i havent, although java -version gives me : 4.0.2
[10:13] <CanadaGradeEh> Prob just a coincidence
[10:14] <Bergcube> Cynical~  Yes, the bash command ps
[10:14] <CanadaGradeEh> but xentales void?
[10:14] <andyshack> how do i tell it to use the new installed libs
[10:14] <ttyfscker> iwconfig eth0 key [2]  0123-4567-89
[10:14] <ttyfscker> subsititue the #s of course
[10:14] <void^> andyshack: so, run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:14] <Cynical> ohhh
[10:14] <Cynical> of course
[10:14] <ttyfscker> and make sure that your eth0 is the appropriate device
[10:14] <Cynical> hmm I haven't even tried installing java
[10:14] <CanadaGradeEh> !eth0
[10:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about eth0 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:14] <CanadaGradeEh> blar
[10:14] <CanadaGradeEh> g
[10:14] <Cynical> that aughta be fun
[10:15] <Cynical> broken sysem, spit, throw, buy a new one
[10:15] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89:: try iwconfig eth0 key [2]  0123-4567-89
[10:15] <ttyfscker> substitute the key #s
[10:16] <CanadaGradeEh> So, great
[10:16] <CanadaGradeEh> I downloaded the Java RPM file from the site
[10:16] <Yon> hmmm m8 it is not right
[10:16] <CanadaGradeEh> yey, doesn't show up in the folder
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> !java
[10:16] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:16] <Yon> it unreconised comand [2] 
[10:16] <CanadaGradeEh> SCREEEWW YOOOUUU, WARTY!
[10:16] <Cynical> omg
[10:16] <andyshack> i want to be using //jvm/java-gcj/bin/java NOT the gij-wrapper right ?
[10:16] <axyjo> hey, my gparted install wont be quick... it takes 5 mins to list all the partitions.  is there some alternative graphical partitoning tool that supports resizing of fat 32 and ext3 partitions
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> andyshack: no, you need to use the one that has 'sun' in its name
[10:17] <axyjo> !gparted
[10:17] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:17] <void^> andyshack: no, you want /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java or similar
[10:17] <ttyfscker> Yon::  what did you put in?
[10:17] <andyshack> hm, perhaps ive stuffed the java install.
[10:17] <Cynical> you did.
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> andyshack: if you followed the wiki, you didn't stuff it.
[10:17] <andyshack> wel i "followed" the wiki
[10:18] <Cynical> are ttyfscker  and fyrestrtr  related?
[10:18] <axyjo> hey, my gparted install wont be quick... it takes 5 mins to list all the partitions.  is there some alternative graphical partitoning tool that supports resizing of fat 32 and ext3 partitions
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: no
[10:18] <Yon> ttyfscker: sudo iwconfig ath0 [2]  my key
[10:18] <ttyfscker> no
[10:18] <void^> andyshack: so, how did you install java?
[10:18] <ttyfscker> its not ath0
[10:18] <Yon> that is my card tho
[10:18] <ttyfscker> and thats not the right syntax
[10:18] <Cynical> ath0?
[10:18] <Cynical> is that like a really slow eth0?
[10:19] <Yon> that is what my card is detected as
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: type fdisk -l -- see if that reports any errors. It shouldn't take 5 minutes unless you have a *very* slow PC.
[10:19] <ttyfscker> its sudo iwconfig eth0 key [#]  XXXXXXXXXX
[10:19] <Yon> kk
[10:19] <ttyfscker> # = key # you want to use X = the actual keys
[10:19] <axyjo> fyrestrtr: Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[10:19] <axyjo> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[10:19] <axyjo> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[10:19] <axyjo>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:19] <axyjo> /dev/hda1               1        1216     9767488+  83  Linux
[10:19] <axyjo> /dev/hda2   *        1217        6338    41142465    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:19] <axyjo> /dev/hda4            6346        9729    27181980    5  Extended
[10:19] <axyjo> /dev/hda5            9554        9729     1413688+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:19] <axyjo> /dev/hda6            6346        8591    18040932    b  W95 FAT32
[10:19] <axyjo> /dev/hda7            8592        9553     7727233+   b  W95 FAT32
[10:19] <ttyfscker> !flood
[10:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:19] <axyjo> Partition table entries are not in disk order
[10:19] <axyjo> no error except last line
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: wth are you doing?
[10:19] <axyjo> whoops
[10:20] <axyjo> sorry
[10:20] <Cynical> windows 95?
[10:20] <Sakanix> Hi all I just adjusted the system time on my machine and now when I try sudo I get an error message "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 25 00:20:34 2006"
[10:20] <Cynical> didn't they SHOOT all those users already?
[10:20] <ttyfscker> Cynical:: windows 95 is the label that fat32 partitions get
[10:20] <ttyfscker> not the label.. but the type
[10:20] <Cynical> I know
[10:20] <Cynical> :P
[10:20] <Cynical> just playing
[10:20] <ttyfscker> k
[10:20] <CanadaGradeEh> He just wanted to bash Microsoft
[10:20] <Cynical> uhh not really
[10:21] <ttyfscker> i thought cynical was a she
[10:21] <CanadaGradeEh> So, do you think within a month I'll be pretty comfortable with Ubuntu? lol
[10:21] <Cynical> Im a ... /me looks
[10:21] <ttyfscker> there was this hot chic on a webcam network that was named cynicalceleste
[10:21] <CanadaGradeEh> he, she. whatever
[10:21] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, i get a partition table out of order thing and thats about the only error
[10:21] <ttyfscker> and she was showin everything lol
[10:21] <Cynical> lol not gonna show anyone anything
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: that can be a problem. What do you want to do with gparted?
[10:21] <Cynical> unless you pay me
[10:22] <psiborg> that's pretty cynical  ;p
[10:22] <CanadaGradeEh> Lint and a double A battery
[10:22] <Cynical> oh wait that makes me look like a slut
[10:22] <CanadaGradeEh> deal?
[10:22] <Cynical> nevermind
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> I'm not rich enough to afford cheap things cynical :P
[10:22] <ttyfscker> Yon:: did you try that?
[10:22] <CanadaGradeEh> :P
[10:22] <axyjo> i want to delete my fat32 home partiton and make it into ext 3
[10:22] <psiborg> a whore even ;)
[10:22] <CanadaGradeEh> A *GASP* SCAMP
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: which one is it?
[10:22] <andyshack> thats a good line
[10:22] <_atomic> Hi
[10:22] <Cynical> damn you all :D
[10:22] <ttyfscker> axyjo::  thats pretty easy. you need to do a sudo fdisk -l
[10:23] <ttyfscker> and see which device it is
[10:23] <CanadaGradeEh> Too late
[10:23] <axyjo> its hda6
[10:23] <ttyfscker> k
[10:23] <axyjo> /dev/hda6
[10:23] <Sakanix> can anyone help me I just killed my machine
[10:23] <ttyfscker> then sudo fdisk /dev/hda6
[10:23] <Sakanix> I can no longer sudo anythign
[10:23] <CanadaGradeEh> WOW
[10:23] <Cynical> whats wrong Sandick
[10:23] <axyjo> ok thanks
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> ttyfscker: that won't work :P
[10:23] <axyjo> i'll try that
[10:23] <_atomic> fun
[10:23] <axyjo> oh
[10:23] <fivre> Sakanix: did you change your name?
[10:23] <Cynical> err sana
[10:23] <CanadaGradeEh> jre2 java file stuck at 0:01 til complete
[10:23] <axyjo> k
[10:23] <Sakanix> adjusting the system clock just pwned me
[10:23] <Cynical> lol
[10:23] <CanadaGradeEh> same thing it did last time
[10:23] <ttyfscker> fyrestrtr:: why will it not work
[10:23] <CanadaGradeEh> DAAAAAAMNIT
[10:23] <Sakanix> may have done
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> ttyfscker: because /dev/hda6 is not a drive, its a partition.
[10:23] <Sakanix> fivre: I am on about 4 machine at once
[10:24] <ttyfscker> oops
[10:24] <ttyfscker> your right
[10:24] <ttyfscker> sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[10:24] <fivre> Sakanix: try booting into recovery mode and using the command "visudo"
[10:24] <andyshack> which extra repos does sun java sit in ?
[10:24] <fivre> check if your username is in there
[10:24] <Sakanix> fivre: will do
[10:24] <fivre> if not, add it
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> !java > andyshack
[10:24] <CanadaGradeEh> SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[10:24] <andyshack> nice!
[10:24] <Cynical> uh
[10:24] <axyjo> ttyfscker, u mean sudo fdisk /dev/hda6 or just hda like you wrote it?
[10:25] <Sakanix> fivre: I will be in there
[10:25] <CanadaGradeEh> I can't get java installed, I can't get bittorrent installed, I can't download the upgrade via command line
[10:25] <ttyfscker> /dev/hda
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: only one of those will work, so that's how you'll know ;)
[10:25] <martuxy-13> rver irc.arrakis.es
[10:25] <Sakanix> I am getting a time stamp issue
[10:25] <CanadaGradeEh> I mean, I can, but it will take me until 5 am
[10:25] <fivre> dunno then
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> CanadaGradeEh: go to sleep and try it tomorrow.
[10:25] <CanadaGradeEh> That's what I did LAST night
[10:25] <axyjo> ttyfscker, fyrestrtr, thanks.. will try that
[10:25] <Sakanix> fivre: I can ssh into the box and get root access
[10:25] <CanadaGradeEh> *kicks Warty's head in*
[10:26] <axyjo> !help
[10:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:26] <Sakanix> fivre: its only when I run the cmds from the console itself
[10:26] <tsume> hmm
[10:26] <tsume> Ubuntu Know :)
[10:26] <tsume> *Ubuntu Knot
[10:26] <fivre> No Idea then :(
[10:26] <CanadaGradeEh> That's it. I'm going to download it on my bro's computer
[10:26] <CanadaGradeEh> He can eat fist if he bitches
[10:27] <ttyfscker> axyjo:: there is more to it than that
[10:27] <axyjo> ttyfscker, fyrestrtr is there a graphical partitoner?
[10:27] <tsume> you know, I'm gonna put a large picture of a dog's panis whose bulbus gland has expanded. Since that is a knot :P
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: gparted
[10:27] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, gparted is the one that takes too long
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: don't know of another one.
[10:27] <ttyfscker> disks-admin
[10:28] <axyjo> and after i give it a command, the partition table doesnt show up at all... and ctrl+c doesnt work
[10:28] <axyjo> ttyfscker, will try that
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: have patience.
[10:28] <ttyfscker> Yon:: are you still here?
[10:29] <Cynical> ok who farted?
[10:30] <schmakk> probably me. i needed some attention to this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18758
[10:30] <ttyfscker> Jimmy89:: are you still here?
[10:30] <Yon> hey m8 i'm still here
[10:30] <schmakk> and what i have to do to fix it
[10:30] <ttyfscker> Yon::  this will work i tested it with mine
[10:30] <ttyfscker> Yon first off you need to see what device your wireless card is
[10:30] <ttyfscker> do iwconfig
[10:31] <Cynical> guess it was me
[10:31] <ttyfscker> and see which device has the wireless extensions
[10:31] <Yon> i think that i did it
[10:31] <Yon> 1 min
[10:31] <pkh> I've got ubuntu 6.06 installed -- I'm looking for /dev/eth0 but it isn't there!  any ideas what's going on?
[10:31] <axyjo> ttyfscker, fyrestrtr want the whole list of errors from gparted in pastebin?
[10:31] <pkh> p.s. network is working perfectly fine!
[10:31] <ttyfscker> axyjo::  no
[10:32] <ttyfscker> pkh:: do ifconfig
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> pkh: then don't worry about it if its working fine.
[10:32] <axyjo> ttyfscker, then just tell me what error reading inode (five digit number) means
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: means you have problems in your partition table.
[10:32] <ttyfscker> that means there is a bad inode on that disks.. most likely corrupted
[10:32] <pkh> ifconfig shows eth1 working -- but I need (want) to access it so that nload can work
[10:33] <axyjo> what are inodes?
[10:33] <ttyfscker> well then eth1 is your network card
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: run a file system check on your disk.
[10:33] <pkh> ttyfscker, any idea why /dev/eth1 doesn't exist??
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> pkh: how many network cards do you have?
[10:33] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, that would be what command?
[10:33] <ttyfscker> they are different address's on the physical discs that idenfity that particular sector
[10:33] <vick> How can i make ISC dhcpd accept dhcp request blindly without suggesting any other IP ?
[10:33] <pkh> one that I know of
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> pkh: then you don't get a eth1, just a eth0
[10:34] <Yon> omg omg omg
[10:34] <Yon> you are my savior
[10:34] <ttyfscker> pkh:: well for some reason your using eth1
[10:34] <Yon> omg
[10:34] <ttyfscker> Yon:: who?
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> inode is an identifier attached to all files. It lists information such as owner, access date, permissions, masks, etc.
[10:34] <axyjo> also, would i need a live cd to resize my / partition
[10:34] <Yon> :ttyfscker *kisss*
[10:34] <pkh> hmmmm, ok -- do you have a /dev/ethX visible?
[10:34] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, so like a journal for the files
[10:34] <ttyfscker> Yon::  please tell me your female
[10:34] <ttyfscker> lol
[10:35] <Yon> :O
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: no, like an identifier for the file, as I mentioned.
[10:35] <Yon> lol
[10:35] <axyjo> ah
[10:35] <Yon> how do you do that
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> pkh: ifconfig -a
[10:35] <Yon> so how would i make a script to do this that i can run when i get to school and when i get home
[10:36] <pkh> fyrestrtr, not eth0 -- eth1, lo, sit0, vmnet1, vmnet8 (I have vmware workstation installed -- with working nat networking)
[10:36] <ttyfscker> Yon make  a script that runs the command you want
[10:36] <ttyfscker> call one home
[10:36] <ttyfscker> and one school
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: it stores all kind of information (basically, most of what you get with the stat command is read from the inode number for a file)
[10:36] <ttyfscker> and when you get wherever you want to go you can just issue the home command
[10:36] <Yon> how just right the comand in it
[10:36] <ttyfscker> or the school command
[10:36] <ttyfscker> no
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> Yon: any reason you are not using the profiles feature of gnome-network-manager?
[10:37] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, so like an auto increment id field in sql?
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: dude, no.
[10:37] <Yon> because it has no key indexes
[10:37] <Yon> and i need it for school
[10:37] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, its ok.. lets just leave it at that
[10:37] <Yon> they use key index 2
[10:37] <axyjo> !conky > axyjo
[10:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about conky  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: if you really want to know more about it, read it up on wikipedia.
[10:38] <axyjo> ok thanks
[10:38] <ttyfscker> #!/bin/bash
[10:38] <ttyfscker> your command
[10:38] <ttyfscker> save it and chmod +x o n it
[10:38] <ttyfscker> put it in /usr/bin
[10:38] <Cynical> whats the program that does alot of the windows games under linux?
[10:38] <ttyfscker> and then you can run it with one word
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: wine
[10:38] <Cynical> starts with ced
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> Cynical: cedega
[10:38] <Cynical> thats it
[10:39] <ttyfscker> Yon:: just make a file that looks like this:         #!/bin/bash
[10:39] <ttyfscker> yourcommandhere
[10:39] <Yon> can i make like a bat file like in windows that i can have sit on my desktop
[10:39] <ttyfscker> just be sure you put #!/bin/bash at the very first
[10:40] <ttyfscker> you can create a shortcut to it yes
[10:40] <Yon> #!/bin/bash that just sends it to the console thing right
[10:40] <ttyfscker> that means to run with bash shell
[10:40] <ttyfscker> thats a standard with scripts today pretty much
[10:42] <Yon> just use text editor
[10:42] <Yon> ??
[10:42] <ttyfscker> you can do it like that yes
[10:43] <ttyfscker> anybody in here live near nashville?
[10:43] <tristan> hi
[10:44] <tristan> I have a trouble with acroread : it is installed but it doesn't want to start
[10:44] <tristan> It says : X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[10:45] <Steven_> do any of you use bittorrent-gui?
[10:46] <tristan> Steven_, I used it
[10:47] <Nameeater> evening Steven_ :)
[10:47] <ttyfscker> i use bittornado-gui
[10:47] <Yon> what is the extension on the end of the file to make it run in the shell
[10:47] <Nameeater> me too! bittornado-gui > *
[10:47] <Yon> like .bat in windows
[10:47] <ttyfscker> Yon:: you dont need an extension
[10:47] <Yon> is it .sh
[10:47] <Nameeater> Yon: yes .sh
[10:47] <Nameeater> remember to make it executable too :)
[10:47] <ttyfscker> you dont have to have .sh
[10:47] <Steven_> tristan: what's the command to run it?
[10:47] <ttyfscker> all you need to do is make it executable
[10:47] <ardchoille> tristan: Do you have devices in your xorg.conf that don't exist? Can you post your xorg/conf to pastebin?
[10:47] <asfra> hi, can someone help me get the hublist in DC_gui2  ? Please...
[10:47] <Cynical> bittorent is blocked server-side by cox..
[10:48] <ardchoille> *xorg.conf
[10:48] <rattboi> k, tomorrow I'll be dual-booting OSX and Ubuntu
[10:48] <Yon> and how do i do that
[10:48] <Yon> with .exe
[10:48] <ttyfscker> if you name it .sh thats just so you know that its a shell script..   if you want to issue the command with just home  or school..  dont name it .sh
[10:48] <ttyfscker> Yon:: no
[10:48] <ttyfscker> after you save the file
[10:48] <rattboi> I just burned 6.06, and I'm backing up important OSX stuff to my external drive
[10:48] <tristan> Steven_, I think it is something like gnome-btdownload
[10:48] <Nameeater> Yon: chmod +x filename
[10:48] <ttyfscker> you run the command chmod +x filename   from the terminal
[10:49] <Cynical> x = executeable?
[10:49] <ttyfscker> yes
[10:49] <dibblego> my ubuntu installation causes a kernel panic upon booting - can I boot off the live CD and reverse my changes - I don't seem to have access to the usual filesystem
[10:49] <Wikey> hi, anyone over here had rebrand ubuntu before?
[10:50] <ttyfscker> r = read, w = write, x=execute, t=sticky, s= sguid
[10:50] <rattboi> I'm kinda excited
[10:50] <rattboi> I use x86 ubuntu all the time
[10:50] <rattboi> but not ppc
[10:50] <rattboi> hope it's not too hard to set up cross-compiler for x86 :)
[10:50] <ttyfscker> rattboi:: i'd like to have a mac mini with linux
[10:50] <rattboi> that's what I have
[10:51] <ttyfscker> really
[10:51] <calloc> anyone know of a decent guide to config SSL on apache on ubuntu?
[10:51] <rattboi> yeah
[10:51] <asfra> hi, can someone help me get the hublist in DC_gui2  ? Please...
[10:51] <Steven_> tristan:  nope, it's not that
[10:51] <rattboi> 1.42 ghz PPC
[10:51] <tristan> ardchoille, http://pastebin.ca/98056
[10:51] <rattboi> I wanna play with Mac On Linux
[10:51] <rattboi> if it works well, I might just stay in Ubuntu most of the time
[10:51] <Badm4n> may i know where i can asking for iptables ?
[10:51] <Badm4n> or i can ask here ?
[10:51] <ttyfscker> rattboi:: you can always use vmware
[10:52] <rattboi> I'm thinking it'll have problems with some music software
[10:52] <rattboi> vmware?
[10:52] <calloc> rattboi, yes vmware
[10:52] <rattboi> for ppc?
[10:52] <tristan> ardchoille, I reinstalled acroread but it wont work. When I click on a pdf file nothing happens unless I tell him to use kpdf and if I use konsole I get the error previous error message
[10:52] <ttyfscker> vmware will run with linux from your ppc
[10:52] <rattboi> I thought it was more of an x86 solution
[10:52] <ttyfscker> you can use pearpc
[10:53] <rattboi> ttyfscker: ?
[10:53] <ttyfscker> ?
[10:53] <rattboi> I know that program
[10:53] <rattboi> but that's also another x86 program
[10:53] <ttyfscker> hrmm
[10:53] <calloc> rattboi, you can get it for ppc
[10:53] <ttyfscker> i thought pearpc worked for ppc
[10:53] <calloc> afaik
[10:53] <Dewbie> anyone been able to fix sound on a intel 945GM chipset?
[10:54] <asfra> hi, can someone help me get the hublist in DC_gui2  ? Please...
[10:54] <ttyfscker> im pretty sure you can download it and use it with linux
[10:54] <andyshack> any idea what error exit status 10 is from trying to install sunjava ?
[10:54] <rattboi> but then it's emulated
[10:54] <ttyfscker> it was designed to work with intel hardware in mind
[10:54] <rattboi> MOL is more like WINE
[10:54] <Badm4n> i need information about iptables... can i get here ? or maybe you can give me iptable's chat room
[10:54] <ttyfscker> rattboi:: i havent been fortuanate enough to get linux on a mac
[10:54] <ttyfscker> let alone mac on linux
[10:54] <ttyfscker> heh
[10:54] <Wikey> hi, whom can I contact if I plan to rebrand ubuntu? I plan to roll out ubuntu desktop on customers pc, but "ubuntu" in my national language means "stuck" more or less. So I wonder is it possible that I can change the name but retain the logo, etc
[10:55] <asfra> hi, can someone help me get the hublist in DC_gui2  ? Please...
[10:55] <rattboi> well, I'm usually pretty good at this stuff
[10:55] <rattboi> at least on x86
[10:55] <rattboi> I don't expect a huge difference, except more compiling from source
[10:55] <rattboi> less binary packages
[10:55] <ttyfscker> so ubuntu really means stuck huh
[10:55] <ttyfscker> is that african stuff all made up ?
[10:55] <ttyfscker> haha
[10:56] <ardchoille> tristan: Hmm.. was hoping it was a problem with your xorg.conf file, but I don't see anything wrong.
[10:56] <Wikey> not sure for African, but in Malay "buntu" means stuck
[10:56] <Sakanix>  /part
[10:56] <asfra> hi, can someone help me get the hublist in DC_gui2  ? Please...
[10:56] <calloc> anyone know of a decent guide to config SSL on apache on ubuntu?
[10:56] <Wikey> so when we do a presentation on ubuntu, the customers actually ask,"ubuntu...... can it really work?"
[10:56] <Yon> chmod +x /home/yon/schoolwep
[10:57] <Yon> is that it
[10:57] <Yon> cos it goes cannot access
[10:57] <Canada|AFK> ok
[10:57] <tristan> Wikey, and I am sure you answer : No is doesn't work, that's why we use it ;)
[10:57] <Canada|AFK> Torrenting at a steady 190 KBps :D
[10:57] <Canada|AFK> Thanks for attempting to help anyway, guys
[10:57] <tristan> ardchoille, thanks for trying
[10:57] <Canada|AFK> I can't beleive I didn't wake my brother up lol
[10:57] <ardchoille> tristan: You're welcome :)
[10:58] <gdb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28ideology%29
[10:58] <axyjo> i'm having some trouble with gparted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18759
[10:58] <calloc> anyone know of a decent guide to config SSL on apache on ubuntu?
[10:58] <Wikey> Ya tristan, luckily we did the presentation on Ubuntu
[10:58] <Canada|AFK> Just a quick question guys
[10:58] <Badm4n> ubotu tell me iptables
[10:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell me iptables - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:58] <Badm4n> ubotu help
[10:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:58] <damnation> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot.
[10:58] <Canada|AFK> There's no real differnce between learning languages like html/css, xml, sql, c++, etcetera is there?
[10:58] <damnation> I know nothing about tell me iptables
[10:59] <Canada|AFK> between windows and linux?
[10:59] <axyjo> ubotu php
[10:59] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:59] <Wikey> but the customer is a bit reserved on that. So chances are other clients will fee the same too. I was thinking , if we can change the name itself, but retain everything. But then I am not sure about the Ubuntu's standpoint. They seems quite open though
[10:59] <Canada|AFK> I've only just started CSS and that's it, but I'd like to be able to use my skills on either or OS when I start to learn
[10:59] <ttyfscker> Yon::  where did you save the file to?
[10:59] <axyjo> uboto ssl
[11:00] <lz1gjd> !ssh
[11:00] <andyshack> just tell them that "U" means "NEVER" in african.. Never Stuck
[11:00] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:00] <axyjo> i'm having some trouble with gparted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18759
[11:00] <Wikey> haha, that's a really good one
[11:00] <Yon> my home derectory cos i cant past into usr/bin
[11:00] <tristan> what game are you playing on your Ubuntu comp?
[11:01] <ttyfscker> Yon::  you need to sudo cp /home/yon/schoolwep /usr/bin/
[11:01] <axyjo> i'm having some trouble with gparted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18759
[11:02] <calloc> ubotu tell me ssl
[11:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell me ssl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:02] <ardchoille> !ssl > calloc
[11:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about ssl  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:02] <axyjo> !lamp > calloc
[11:02] <Wikey> sorry, seriously, my boss asked me to venture whether we can change the name..... but I can't find any info on that. It seems that there are people who create deriative distro from ubuntu, so I hope that legally it is not a big issue. Of course we will be supporting our client ourself, but we want to base on ubuntu as much as possible, and change nothing but the name and logo (include artworks,etc.) if necessary.
[11:03] <axyjo> i'm having some trouble with gparted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18759
[11:03] <rattboi> calloc: check out Apache manual
[11:03] <rattboi> it's an important subject
[11:03] <rattboi> shouldn't be hard to find
[11:03] <ardchoille> !repeat > axyjo
[11:03] <Canada|AFK> well goodnight to those of you I talked with earlier
[11:03] <ttyfscker> Wikey::  you just need to follow the GPL
[11:03] <ttyfscker> !gpl
[11:03] <ubotu> gpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[11:03] <axyjo> !patience > axyjo
[11:04] <oezguer> hiii
[11:04] <ardchoille> How can I tell the system which app to open a .theme file in?
[11:04] <oezguer> how can i play pps on ubuntu?which program do i need? help... thanx
[11:05] <mad_slackie> oezguer: openoffice
[11:05] <oezguer> ok thjanxxxxxxx
[11:05] <ttyfscker> i thought powerpoint files were .ppt
[11:05] <mad_slackie> i sorry
[11:06] <axyjo> pps and ppt
[11:06] <axyjo> both
[11:06] <Wikey> I know GPL (at least the general one). We have no problems in giving the source code. I am more concern on the trademark though. Definitely we are basing our "distro" on ubuntu and we won't try to hide that. But we want to change the name to reduce the resistence. Anyone can advise me on whom to contact in Canonical?
[11:06] <mad_slackie> i didn't wake up
[11:06] <oezguer> lol:)
[11:06] <cord_> d
[11:06] <cord_> f
[11:06] <ttyfscker> Wikey::  ubuntu is GPL
[11:06] <mad_slackie> oezguer: sorry. i made a mistake. openoffice doesn't play pps files
[11:06] <mad_slackie> oezguer: i appologise
[11:07] <oezguer> ok, which programm do i need?
[11:07] <ttyfscker> Wikey:: follow the guidlines on that link about redistribution
[11:07] <Wikey> ttyfscker, thanks.
[11:07] <axyjo> would my best option be to reformat my system?
[11:07] <pepsmir> hrm, how do you do anfsck on a tty?
[11:07] <oezguer> which programs play pps files?
[11:08] <andyshack> perhaps i should write the deffinative idiot proof jre install guide after that.
[11:08] <ttyfscker> Wikey::  no porb
[11:08] <ttyfscker> prob*
[11:08] <Wikey> sorry ttyfscker, I can't find the link, can you tell me the url?
[11:08] <ompaul> axyjo, install again?
[11:08] <axyjo> ompaul yes
[11:08] <ttyfscker> pepsmir:: you fsck the tty
[11:09] <ompaul> axyjo, so do the manual partition and get more control over your home paritition
[11:09] <axyjo> ompaul thanks
[11:09] <axyjo> bye bye
[11:09] <ttyfscker> well im off to bed.. nite everyone
[11:10] <pepsmir> ttyfscker, Illegal seeks while trying to open /dev/tty :P
[11:10] <pepsmir> heh
[11:10] <ttyfscker> lol
[11:10] <pepsmir> :)
[11:10] <ttyfscker> you use the tty to perform the fsck
[11:10] <ttyfscker> ;)
[11:10] <pepsmir> aha
[11:11] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Hmmm i need help with somthing...i want to see if this works in ubuntu only.
[11:12] <ardchoille> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: What do you need help with?
[11:12] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> i need someone else to do a whois on microsof.com
[11:12] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> microsoft.com*
[11:12] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> lol
[11:12] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> can i pm you?
[11:13] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> dont want to fill the chat up.
[11:13] <osiolek> witqm
[11:14] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> can i pm anyone?
[11:14] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> just want to see.
[11:14] <osiolek> hello
[11:15] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> see i get weird stuff when i do a whois on microsoft.com
[11:15] <paloyme> what do you do when you encounter errors in installation like, "W: Duplicate Sources" followed by some http address
[11:16] <ardchoille> paloyme: post your sources.list to pastebin and let us have a look.
[11:16] <jes-o-mat> is here also a bot like dpkg that has  some default answers?
[11:16] <paloyme> where is pastebin?
[11:16] <ardchoille> !ubotu
[11:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:16] <jes-o-mat> thnx
[11:16] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[11:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:17] <ardchoille> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: pLEASE DON'T PM WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING PERMISSION
[11:18] <ardchoille> Sorry for the capslock
[11:19] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> I mean this is serious i need to know if its just my computer or with all ppl who use ubuntu.
[11:20] <llama32> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: pm me...
[11:20] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> k thanx very much.
[11:22] <eXistenZ> Does anyone have pentium D here?
[11:23] <paloyme> ardchoille i posted my sources.list in pastebin
[11:23] <dj_baggio> nope ;)
[11:24] <ardchoille> paloyme: paste the URL of the pastebin output here
[11:26] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Hmmm.....omg all i needed to know if it was me or the rest of ubuntu.
[11:27] <jbrimble> How can I set up my gamepad in Ubuntu?
[11:27] <llama32> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: i was talking in the pm...
[11:27] <llama32> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18762
[11:28] <ardchoille> llama32: he can't see it because you aren't identified to nickserv
[11:28] <llama32> ohhhh
[11:28] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> lol
[11:28] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> well
[11:28] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> that explains
[11:29] <jbrimble> I have a logitech gamepad controller with vibrate functions, is it easy for me to install and configure this on Ubuntu?
[11:29] <marcel`> Just after i installed ubuntu i had sound but now i dont have any sound. I have a VIA8237
[11:30] <marcel`> could someone help me?
[11:30] <ompaul> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, all people doing a whois on microsoft.com will see all those entries, only one points to the actual company the rest are people "who think they are having fun"
[11:30] <ompaul> !sound > marcel`
[11:31] <ompaul> marcel`, follow the links in the page(s) the channel bot sent you
[11:31] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> how did they do that?
[11:31] <llama32> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: the same thing happens with google.com and i'd assume other big domain names
[11:31] <marcel`> ompaul: thanks alot ill check them out
[11:32] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> ya ic
[11:32] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Why does it do that?
[11:32] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> i had other friends do it and it does not show all that stuff
[11:33] <ompaul> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, your search was microsoft dot com - it is not filtered in any way
[11:33] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> it gives me a differnent reading when i use the ipadress
[11:33] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> the "normal" one
[11:33] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> ic
[11:33] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> thanx alot!
[11:34] <ompaul> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, what you see is the data and frankly this is not a ubuntu support question, if you want to play with the whois command to see all the options do this in a terminal: man whois
[11:35] <gnoshi> does anyone with a penchant for SIP-phone systems and a desire to try to replicate a build problem feel like giving me a hand for 5 minutes?
[11:35] <calloc> I have a small wireless network running at home, with about 6/7 clients - in one room I have an ubuntu box which is internet connection sharing to an XP machine, all PCs are part of a workgroup, is it going to be possible for me to share drives etc from the windows box to other windows clients through the ubuntu box and what would be the best way of doing it?
[11:36] <helpplz> ark gives me an error :( could not start sub process?
[11:37] <helpplz> ark gives me an error :( could not start sub process?
[11:37] <ompaul> calloc, put the ubuntu box in front of the others
[11:37] <paloyme> ardchoille http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18761
[11:37] <ompaul> calloc,  and then you do some bridging, which is way beyond the scope of my abilities on irc
[11:38] <Brokenstein> can anyone help me detect my usb harddrive
[11:38] <calloc> ompaul, It is in front of 1 windows box - its internet connection sharing to it
[11:38] <ompaul> calloc, bridging is needed to pass wins packets afik
[11:39] <lgt> hello
[11:39] <marcel`> Is there a way to reset everything to a certain point if you fucked everything up?
[11:40] <bnsi> hi, my fan is reasonably quiet until i run something heavy like ET, but after quitting the game the fan remains at full speed regardless of cpu load. any ideas?
[11:42] <Nameeater>  bnsi: look into nvclock
[11:42] <m_0_r_0_n> How do I get sound for flash on websites in firefox? I dont hear anything when playing a clip e.g. http://www.informatikerstrich.net/?p=245
[11:42] <ardchoille> paloyme: Lines 55 and 56 are duplicates, you should remove them or comment them out.
[11:42] <Nameeater> its an application to set gfx card fan speed... if its an nvidia card mind you
[11:43] <Subhuman> Nameeater, thats not fan speed, itz gpu and emmroy speed
[11:43] <bnsi> Nameeater, overclocking nvidia? what has that got to do with it?
[11:44] <Subhuman> Nameeater, upping those sliders will make the card work harder
[11:44] <ardchoille> paloyme: Also, you need to uncomment the other dapper-backports lines
[11:44] <Nameeater> oh, wrong app
[11:44] <Nameeater> sorry :x
[11:44] <bnsi> Nameeater, no i'm talking about cpu fan
[11:44] <bnsi> ok
[11:44] <Subhuman> bnsi, it could be that the fan runs hard after for a while to cool the cpu right back down?
[11:44] <paloyme> ardchoille what are the backports lines?
[11:45] <ardchoille> paloyme: Lines 49 - 62 on that pastebin output
[11:45] <bnsi> Subhuman, yes, it usually does calm down, but since last kernel update it just keeps on being noisy, indefinitely it seems...
[11:45] <ardchoille> paloyme: Have you done anything yet?
[11:45] <paloyme> not yet
[11:46] <bnsi> there must be something wrong in my acpi, just am at loss how to troubleshoot it...
[11:46] <ardchoille> paloyme: leave it then, save you some work. I don't see any of them actually duplicated.
[11:46] <paloyme> you have more instructions ardchoille?
[11:46] <ardchoille> paloyme: I was just going to have it more readable but doesn't need to be.
[11:46] <paloyme> oh ok... so i dont do anything? i just leave it as it is ardchoille?
[11:46] <ardchoille> paloyme: Yes, leave it as it is.
[11:47] <Nameeater> they have infact added fanspeed control to the _beta_ version of nvclock, and only if you have certain card versions
[11:47] <ardchoille> paloyme: Where were you getting the duplication message?
[11:47] <paloyme> ok ardchoille thanks
[11:47] <paloyme> when installing some packages... i think
[11:47] <Monit0r> exit
[11:49] <ardchoille> paloyme: I don't see any duplicates. The next time you get the duplicates message, the message will tell you which ones are duplicates, you can bring that info in here and will try and sort it out.
[11:51] <paloyme> ok thn
[11:52] <paloyme> thanks ardchoille
[11:53] <Brokenstein> can anyone help me with my usb hd?
[11:54] <|deltrinos|> hi everybody, I'm seeking for a method add a header for all mail sending by my postfix, everybody have a proposal ?
[11:54] <Brokenstein> i lsusb and i see it there, but i cant seem to mount it
[11:56] <Netcad> snort alert: [Classification: Detection of a Network Scan]  [Priority: 3]  07/24-19:02:26.315192 192.168.0.5:1028 -> 239.255.255.250:1900 UDP TTL:4 TOS:0x0 ID:11 IpLen:20 DgmLen:161 Len: 133
[11:56] <Netcad> any ideas?
[11:56] <Dimensions> hi ... i was making some changes in b... bash and now when i type vi bash it says no such file or folder what should i do to restore it ?
[11:57] <jrib> Dimensions: does '/usr/bin/vi' work?
[11:58] <Dimensions> yes it does jrib
[11:59] <jrib> Dimensions: did you change your PATH?
[11:59] <Bergcube> Dimensions~  This is possibly very bad advice but you could look at your .bashrc file.  Possibly restore the old backup of it.
[11:59] <Yon> what is a hyperterminal
[12:00] <Yon> program for ubuntu
[12:00] <yallax> hm..im trying to connect to my web server(xitami) i have forwarded port 80 on my router.. but i still only get to the router login.. when entering my external ip or hostname
[12:01] <Yon> disable the routers external acccess
[12:01] <Yon> and or move the web config onto a diferent port on the router
[12:02] <Brokenstein> can anyone help me with my usb harddrive? i can detect it with lsusb but i cant seem to mount it
[12:02] <Dimensions> jrib:when i start shell it says bash export : /filter/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin/:sbib/usr/bin/x11:/usr/games: not valid identfier bash:[-n/sbin/lsmod|grep echi_hcd] : no such file or directory
[12:02] <Crembo> hello, ubuntu new switchover here.. for some reason, all networking and internet operations on ubuntu are much, much slower than windows. well, actually, once a connection is actually established, it's normal speed; but ubuntu has an extra-long delay in establishing a connection for no visible reason
[12:03] <mad_slackie> Crembo: try disabling ipv6
[12:03] <mad_slackie> !ipv6
[12:03] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:03] <Crembo> thanks!
[12:03] <mad_slackie> Crembo: ^^^
[12:03] <jrib> Dimensions: put up your ~/.bashrc on pastebin
[12:03] <pepsmir> Yon, gtkterm is one, there is another i like, but i cant think of it at the moment
[12:04] <Dimensions> what does that mean jrib im not getting u
[12:04] <jrib> !pastebin
[12:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:05] <jrib> Dimensions: just copy the contents of ~/.bashrc and post it on paste.ubuntu-nl.org so we can take a look at it, be sure to give us the URL after you post
[12:09] <Brokenstein> ubotu: i looked at the page and i don't see a bad_list... do you mean blacklist?
[12:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about i looked at the page and i don't see a bad_list... do you mean blacklist? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:09] <amarokker> Hi, i tried installing cedega_5.1 and it says i need xlibs- but apt-get install xlibs says that there's no such package
[12:09] <amarokker> only that its referred to by other packages.
[12:10] <jrib> !cedega
[12:10] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[12:11] <col-panic> im moving away from cedega :(
[12:12] <tomas_> Hi, is there anyway to make a window to have a "always behind" focus (opposite to always on top)?
[12:13] <Dimensions> jrib: the url is ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18763
[12:14] <zsh> is there a way i can configure synaptic to download packages from another computer on my lan.
[12:14] <yallax> yon: what do mean by disable the routers external adress?
[12:14] <zsh> i've just installed ubuntu on  another computer and i dont want to download packages again
[12:14] <jrib> tomas_: I know you can use devilspie to make a window stay under all windows
[12:15] <tomas_> jrib: thank you, i will check it out :)
[12:15] <jrib> !devilspie > tomas_
[12:16] <Brokenstein> can anyone help me with a usb harddrive? im just trying to mount one fat32 partition but can seem to find the answer
[12:16] <zsh> Seveas, is there a way i could do that
[12:17] <jrib> Brokenstein: does it show up when you type 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[12:18] <Brokenstein> jrib: no, it does
[12:18] <Brokenstein> jrib: im just a newbie and i cant figure out what to do with it
[12:19] <jimcooncat> anyone know how to extract a gthumb comment using the command line?
[12:19] <jrib> Brokenstein: ok, first you need to make a directory so you can mount your drive to it.  Usually you do this in /mnt or /media, do you know how to do this?
[12:20] <Brokenstein> err excuse me no its not listed there. but it is listed as detected by 'lsusb'
[12:21] <jrib> Brokenstein: hmm, if you don't have a /dev/* path for it showing up, I don't know what to do
[12:21] <Brokenstein> jrib: but no sda is listed in /dev
[12:22] <BeBraw> how do i disable alt-lmb window dragging?
[12:24] <Brokenstein> how can i find out what bus 004 device 010 is detected as?
[12:25] <jrib> Dimensions: I don't see ~/.bashrc, can you do this command: cat ~/.bashrc, and then pastebin that?  Also, where did you "add the last line stating -n/sbin/lsmod" ?
[12:25] <tgarza> how the error report tool works?
[12:25] <Brokenstein> maybe its not being detected as a special device
[12:25] <jrib> Dimensions: actually, you may need to do: /bin/cat ~/.bashrc
[12:26] <ketilkn> After installing a vanilla 2.6.17 kernel boot is complaining that devfs is an unknown filesystem type. Is that warning anything major? Everything seems to be working. (server install no X yet)
[12:27] <zenit> zsh: I guess you could either copy over the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives to the other computer, or in a long term maybe make use of something like apt-proxy
[12:27] <zsh> zenit, thanks, i'll try that
[12:29] <amarokker> ok, I've got cedega installed- but I still get the same error- about xlibs missing.
[12:30] <gholen> Hi, I want to disable the featere "tapping" och my touthpad, how do I do that?
[12:30] <tgarza> Hay alguien que puede brindar soporte en espaol?
[12:30] <amarokker> and no, i tried playing counter-strike...it reports more than once instance of the game is being run- wont play
[12:30] <MenZa> !es
[12:30] <Flannel> !es
[12:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:33] <blahdeblah_> Howdy.  Can anyone tell me the preferred transfer mechanism for PTP USB digicams on Dapper?  I've tried F-Spot but it seems to crash a bit.
[12:33] <blahdeblah_> I'd also like the transfer to be automatic rather than manual - am i better of just scripting something?
[12:33] <blahdeblah_> s/of/off/
[12:35] <Davo_Dinkum> hi ppl
[12:36] <Brokenstein> i need help with a usd hard drive i tried tail -f /var/log/syslog and it keeps repeating:
[12:36] <Brokenstein> Jul 24 02:29:28 master-laptop kernel: [4307721.373000]  usb 1-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10
[12:36] <Brokenstein> Jul 24 02:30:00 master-laptop kernel: [4307752.872000]  usb 1-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10
[12:36] <gnoshi> someone bored and want to do a test compile, to check if some build problems I'm having are ubuntu, or just me?
[12:36] <BeBraw> how can i remap alt-drag?
[12:37] <jrib> BeBraw: you can change the alt key in system > preferences > windows
[12:37] <pepsmir> BeBraw, the Windows preference panel
[12:37] <BeBraw> jrib: thanks
[12:37] <tgarza> how can i check an error after executing oowriter & in a terminal?
[12:37] <pepsmir> aha
[12:38] <ompaul> gnoshi, put all the instructions in a pastebin and someone might actually join your endevors
[12:38] <ompaul> gnoshi, this way there should be no barrier to entry to your question
[12:42] <BeBraw> can menus be set to open on hover instead of clicking in ubuntu?
[12:42] <ron999> ic56 hello
[12:43] <gnoshi> ompaul: Instructions for the svn checkout, and build, are in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18766
[12:44] <ron999> ic56 hello
[12:44] <DoctorMO> good morning all
[12:44] <bam_> hi I was wondering how I could open the 80 port on my ubuntu firewall?
[12:45] <gnoshi> basically, all I am looking for is if an error (AC_CHECK_HEADERS problem) is my build setup, or the ubuntu build setup: That's http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18766 for anyone wanting to test build.
[12:45] <DoctorMO> bam_, what firewall are you using?
[12:45] <ron999> ic56 hello
[12:45] <frogzoo> bam_: running firestarter? just open the port
[12:45] <bam_> apparently the standard ubuntu comes with...
[12:45] <bam_> I havent installed any firewall, but still I am firewalled
[12:45] <jaysef> please can someone recommend a firewall to use with my new installation of ubuntu
[12:46] <DoctorMO> bam_, do you use a router?
[12:46] <jrib> !firewall
[12:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[12:46] <bam_> no
[12:46] <frogzoo> bam_: there's no firewall by default - telnet localhost 80 - should give you a connnection
[12:46] <ron999> ic56 hello
[12:46] <DoctorMO> bam_, then to control your linux firewall install firestarter
[12:46] <bam_> ok
[12:46] <frogzoo> bam_: if you can't connect, it's cos u either do have a firewall, or apache's not running
[12:47] <blahdeblah_> jaysef: If you want a lot of control, use shorewall.  If it's something simple for your desktop, firestarter may be more to your liking.
[12:47] <bam_> I am very sure that apache is running because I, myself, can access the site, but others cant.
[12:47] <ompaul> gnoshi, I am up to my eyes with a job I am doing right now - ask the channel - that was what I was prompting you about
[12:47] <ron999> ic56 will you help me again with floppydisk
[12:47] <ChatUser> hello!  anyone having any problems connecting to archive.ubuntulinux.org for package updates at hte moment?
[12:47] <zak_> aviplay is playing my mpg's real fast... wtf?
[12:47] <frogzoo> blahdeblah_: nothing beats iptables
[12:47] <gnoshi> so there is this tool, called minisplat, in development. It seems to be the first SIP client with an independent implementation of ZRTP (though it is incomplete at this stage). I'm having trouble building it under ubuntu. It would be so very cool if someone could try a build on it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18766
[12:47] <gnoshi> ompaul: yeah, I got that =)
[12:48] <gnoshi> and then I could tell the author of the tool, who has been agonizing over my build problems for days, if it is just my configuration or ubuntu/debian itself. that number again: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18766
[12:48] <ron999> ic56 help me please with floppy disk
[12:50] <ron999> can somebody help me with floppy disk on dapper
[12:51] <ChatUser> Anyone having problems when connecting to archive.ubuntulinux.org for package updates???
[12:51] <ron999> can somebody help me with floppy disk on dapper
[12:52] <gnoshi> wouldn't it be wonderful to have an open source implementation of ZRTP? Well, minisplat is part way to that implementation, but seems to be having build problems with ubuntu. If you want to be helpful and run a test build, look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18766
[12:52] <gnoshi> (note: I have nothing to do with the project, except i am apparently the first ubuntu user and am having build problems).
[12:53] <ron999> can somebody help me with floppy disk on dapper
[12:53] <gnoshi> ron999 - what's the problem?
[12:54] <axyjo> did you try manually mounting it?
[12:54] <bam_> I have installed firestarter and added a policy that says port 80 should be open to everyone.....
[12:54] <ron999> gnoshi floppy will only work if i give command sudo mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0    but next time i reboot it has gone
[12:54] <bam_> but still nothingl
[12:55] <_JP> just curious... any ideas which nationality and sex would someone called "Ani Marco-Cortiel" be? :)
[12:55] <GG_Allin> can anyone help me get my intel 3945 wifi card working with Kubuntu?  I seem to have the same problem as this guy --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185149    unfortunately he never posted the solution to his problem on the message board
[12:55] <ayeee> hi, is it possible to get transparancy with aterm? I mean real transparanty, not so i see the background - if i have an application over my aterm i want to se that in the background.
[12:55] <gnoshi> sorry ron999 - I don't know.... I don't actually have a floppy drive
[12:55] <axyjo> bam_, try grc.com's port scanner and scan port 80
[12:55] <ron999> gnoshi ok thanks
[12:55] <nvictor> hi all
[12:56] <nvictor> I've just got my ubuntu dapper cds?
[12:56] <frogzoo> ron999: try /dev/fd/0
[12:56] <nvictor> I want to upgrade via the cd
[12:56] <ron999> frogzoo , wait please
[12:56] <DoctorMO> frogzoo, ayeee you could get transparency with the various xorg 3D extentions.
[12:56] <nvictor> how do I do that?
[12:56] <ayeee> DoctorMO: like what?
[12:56] <henry54> ron999: yes, it's strange that you needed mknod in the first place...
[12:57] <pieter_> hello!
[12:57] <ron999> henry54 i think that dapper did not see flopppy during install
[12:57] <nvictor> I've removed my sources-list and typed apt-cdrom add, a single line has been added to a new sources-list, now how do I do the upgrade
[12:57] <nvictor> please ?
[12:57] <DoctorMO> ayeee: xgl
[12:58] <ayeee> DoctorMO: isent that hard to setup?
[12:58] <pieter_> i was trying to get Xgl/compiz running on my Ubuntu 6.06 LTS install, but everytime i start compiz the bars above every window disappear
[12:58] <ayeee> ive installed "xserver-xgl" but i dont know how to activate.
[12:58] <cd_rom> hi, is there kernel source for ubuntu 6.06?
[12:58] <DoctorMO> ayeee, it's in alpha in my book so I don't use it. but daring folk do.
[12:58] <DoctorMO> cd_rom, yes
[12:59] <ayeee> DoctorMO: you have a good tutorial/howto setup xgl? :|
[12:59] <axyjo> hey people, i've got a problem with my gparted:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18759
[12:59] <henry54> ron999: is /dev/fd0 working now? (not /dev/fd/0)
[12:59] <DoctorMO> ayeee: nope
[12:59] <ron999> henry 54, wait please
[01:00] <henry54> ron999: brw-rw----  1 root floppy 2, 0 2006-07-22 18:09 /dev/fd0
[01:00] <ndlovu> nvictor, do you know if you have the "alternate" or the "desktop" cd?
[01:00] <bam_> axyjo: It says that "there is not evidence that there is a computer at this ip"...
[01:01] <ron999> henry54/dev/fd0: No such file or directory
[01:01] <bam_> that means that the policy in firestarter is not working....
[01:01] <ron999> henry54 /dev/fd0: No such file or directory
[01:01] <nvictor> ndlovu: how do I check that ? It's the cds shipped
[01:01] <gnoshi> Wow. A build problem under ubuntu? I wonder what is causing that. Try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18766 and maybe you can tell me...
[01:01] <axyjo> bam_, where does it say that?
[01:02] <bam_> in the "commen port scan"
[01:02] <axyjo> can you pastebin it?
[01:02] <ndlovu> !tell nvictor about alternate
[01:02] <axyjo> with a screenshot
[01:02] <bam_> "There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!"
[01:02] <henry54> ron999: and what do you get after:    ls -l /dev/fd*
[01:02] <axyjo> oh
[01:02] <axyjo> tha
[01:02] <axyjo> do yuo have a router
[01:02] <ron999> henry54 wait
[01:02] <ndlovu> nvictor, I had to download it - I don't think it is actually shipped
[01:03] <bam_> personaly, no.
[01:03] <henry54> ron999: was the floppy working before? did it come up in the BIOS?
[01:03] <axyjo> how do you connect to the internet?
[01:03] <ayeee> is there any fast-buttons to change desktops?
[01:03] <nvictor> ndlovu: I have the desktop
[01:03] <ayeee> workspace
[01:03] <bam_> my building is connected.
[01:03] <ndlovu> nvictor, there are just strong warnings against upgrading from the desktop cds
[01:03] <axyjo> ayeee, ctl alt left or right
[01:03] <ron999> henry54 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-07-24 12:36 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd
[01:03] <gnoshi> ayeee - as in desktops 1-4?
[01:03] <ayeee> gnoshi: yes
[01:03] <axyjo> ayeee, ctl alt left or right
[01:03] <ndlovu> nvictor, I'm not sure what the consequences are though
[01:03] <nvictor> ndlovu: really?
[01:03] <ayeee> axyjo: thansk
[01:03] <ayeee> thanks
[01:03] <axyjo> welcome
[01:04] <gnoshi> in gnome that is - KDE - CTRL+F1 - F4
[01:04] <henry54> ron999: wow, that seems quite wrong, a soft link to /proc ?? How did that happen...
[01:04] <goudkov> hi guys, i got Option "OffTime" "8" in xorg.conf but xset -q shows Off: 0 and the monitor never gets turned off. is there some other place where startup scripts reset those values?
[01:04] <axyjo> bam_, as in the wire just goes from ur comp to the wall?
[01:04] <ron999> henry54 let me explain......
[01:04] <bam_> yes
[01:04] <sskroeder> hi all --- is it possible to install NIS and having it work, without having to edit /etc/{group|passwd|shadow} ... I'm doing a handsoff install script right now  and i can't seem to get write access to the aforementioned files during this install-procedure...
[01:04] <axyjo> hmm
[01:04] <bam_> there is nothing in between
[01:04] <henry54> ron999: hang on, the soft link is ok, actually...
[01:04] <ndlovu> nvictor, maybe someone else here can tell you more about the consequences... but here are some good pages to look at...
[01:04] <ayeee> can somebody tell me the name of the application that has a bar on the right (by common) that shows network usage, hdd activity, cpu activty and such.
[01:04] <henry54> ron999: you are just missing the actual fd0 entry.
[01:05] <bam_> let me try to uninstall my firewalls....and then test it.
[01:05] <axyjo> do an ifconfig and try that
[01:05] <axyjo> tell me what happens
[01:05] <axyjo> !tell ayeee about conky
[01:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about conky - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:05] <nvictor> ndlovu: the problem is that, the french page about the installation is unavailable
[01:05] <axyjo> !info conky
[01:05] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB
[01:05] <ndlovu> nvictor, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185467, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[01:05] <axyjo> !info conky >ayeee
[01:05] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB
[01:06] <nvictor> ndlovu: thanks
[01:06] <ron999> henry54 please let me explain, ok?
[01:06] <henry54> ron999: go ahead...
[01:06] <chemaja> ron999: it's not what it looks like? :D
[01:06] <bam_> I cant uninstall my firewall without uninstalling my entier system....messed up.Anyway, is there a way to stop the firewall?
[01:06] <ndlovu> nvictor, do you have a good Internet connection? That seems to be the best way to upgrade...
[01:06] <ayeee> can somebody tell me the name of the application that has a bar on the right (by common) that shows network usage, hdd activity, cpu activty and such.
[01:06] <ron999> henry54 i think that dapper did not see my floppy during install.....
[01:06] <axyjo> open up firestarter
[01:06] <gnoshi> ok.
[01:07] <axyjo> and then press stop
[01:07] <axyjo> that should do it
[01:07] <axyjo> ayeee: try conky
[01:07] <nvictor> ndlovu: yes, if nothing else works I'll use that way
[01:07] <ron999> henry54 so if i use the mknod command each session it is ok......
[01:07] <axyjo> ayeee: do an "!info conky" for information
[01:07] <ayeee> axyjo: conky requires alot of configuration
[01:07] <ayeee> !info conky
[01:07] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB
[01:08] <axyjo> ayeee: the default file is good for system monitering
[01:08] <axyjo> hey people, i've got a problem with my gparted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18759
[01:08] <ron999> henry54 but each time i reboot it runs a script with MAKEDEV in it ......
[01:08] <ron999> henry54 so is there a way to add my mknod commmand to the script?
[01:08] <henry54> ron999: yes, we got that. does the floppy show up fine in the BIOS?
[01:08] <axyjo> bam_, run 'ifconfig' and put that into pastebin
[01:08] <axyjo> !floods >axyjo
[01:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about floods  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:09] <axyjo> !flood >axyjo
[01:09] <ayeee> axyjo: how do i specify what applications that should be runned in the startup? i mean, i want conky everytime i login
[01:09] <axyjo> ayeee: one sec
[01:09] <tjansson> I played around with VNC some time ago, and to day i restarted my server and no the net isn't problerbly working
[01:09] <henry54> ron999: yes, you could do that, of course.
[01:09] <ndlovu> nvictor, good luck. I'm not sure about the quality of the french instructions, but I found that just using the graphical Update Manager did the trick for me.
[01:09] <bam_> axyjo: its alot of text...
[01:09] <tjansson> How do I remove the tun0 from my system?
[01:10] <ron999> henry54 do you know how to modify the script?
[01:10] <bam_> what are you looking for....?
[01:10] <nvictor> ndlovu: synaptic?
[01:10] <nvictor> ndlovu: how did you do?
[01:10] <josh__> !easysources
[01:10] <axyjo> ayeee: look at thishttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_run_programs_on_startup_when_login_into_GNOME
[01:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysources - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:10] <josh__> !easysource
[01:10] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:10] <axyjo> bam_, use pastebin
[01:10] <axyjo> !flood bam_
[01:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about flood bam_ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:10] <ron999> ic56 are you listening?
[01:10] <axyjo> !flood > bam_
[01:11] <ayeee> axyjo: strang, it says that default path of configraitonfile is ~/.conkyrc/ but i dont find .conky in my homedirecotry
[01:11] <henry54> ron999: must be in /etc/rc2.d/S20makedev. But you shouldn't add it there, rather in a separate script at the end of the boot process.
[01:11] <axyjo> ayeee its ~/.conkyrc
[01:11] <axyjo> not ~/.conky/
[01:11] <ron999> hery54 how do i do that?
[01:12] <ron999> henry54 how do i do that
[01:12] <nrdb> I was wondering what package has the command line image manipulation tools (e.g. pnmtojpeg)?
[01:12] <axyjo> hey people, i've got a problem with my gparted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18759
[01:12] <ayeee> axyjo: i dont find it where so... where is the global config so i can copy that.
[01:12] <bam_> !flood bam_
[01:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about flood bam_ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:12] <ndlovu> nvictor, using the menu: System > Administration > Update Manager. I'm not sure what the french equivalent would be. When you load it there should be a button that says "New distribution is available", with an Upgrade button next to it. Pushing that button should start the process.
[01:13] <axyjo> !flood > bam_
[01:13] <nvictor> ah!
[01:13] <nvictor> ok
[01:13] <nvictor> ndlovu: thx
[01:13] <josh__> who knows about freenx?
[01:13] <henry54> ron999: you can copy the S20makedev to something like S99makefloppy and add the mknod command you were using there.
[01:13] <markrian> Does anyone know why ubuntu.com and related servers were down yesterday?
[01:13] <bam_> what names should I have "send" it under?
[01:13] <bam_> I sent it under the name "!flood > bam_"
[01:13] <ndlovu> nvictor, but look through those web pages above first - there may be important information there.
[01:14] <nvictor> ok
[01:14] <axyjo> ayeee: sorry its ~/.conkyrc
[01:14] <axyjo> not ~/.conky
[01:14] <josh__> anyone?
[01:14] <axyjo> bam_: put it online at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or private message me
[01:14] <ayeee> axyjo: but i cant find anything in ~/ that is related to conky
[01:14] <bam_> I have put it online
[01:14] <ron999> henry54 i'm not sure that i know how to do that
[01:14] <axyjo> ayeee: did you remember the dot?
[01:15] <frogzoo> markrian: dns problems, apparently
[01:15] <axyjo> try running conky for the first time
[01:15] <axyjo> then check
[01:15] <henry54> e.g.  sudo cp S20makedev S99makefloopy
[01:15] <axyjo> !topic
[01:15] <josh__> so no one in here remotely connects to their computer?
[01:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about topic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:15] <henry54> ron999: do you know how to edit a file? like using vim ?
[01:15] <axyjo> josh__, i use vnc
[01:15] <warlocky-> I'm real sorry to ask this mysql question here, but noone seems online in the mysql chan, anyone know how to remove a user (+databases it created) ? I did a "drop database db_name;" < is this all?
[01:15] <ron999> henry54 wait please
[01:15] <josh__> does vnc go over ssh?
[01:15] <axyjo> warlocky-, you have to remove the user too
[01:15] <codecaine> when updating from breezy to badger
[01:15] <GreySim> josh__, it can.
[01:15] <warlocky-> axyjo, how?
[01:15] <codecaine> do you need to changethe respirtory
[01:15] <codecaine> ?
[01:15] <axyjo> josh__, not if you dont want it to
[01:16] <henry54> ron999: cd /etc/rc2.d; sudo cp S20makedev S99makefloopy
[01:16] <josh__> lets say i do...
[01:16] <axyjo> warlocky-, sorry... not that good with mysql
[01:16] <bam_> axyjo:I am the first post in paste.ubuntu....
[01:16] <warlocky-> axyjo, darn
[01:16] <ron999> henry54 i know how to edit file with text editor
[01:16] <axyjo> bam_, ok
[01:16] <josh__> how hard is it to setup with vnc, and what is the diff between vnc and freenx?
[01:16] <axyjo> josh__, i dont know freenx so not sure
[01:16] <josh__> is the link compression just as good?
[01:16] <ron999> henry54 you're going too fast, start again please
[01:17] <josh__> ... ok... can you port your gui using 56k on vnc?
[01:17] <henry54> ron999: and then edit /etc/rc2.d/S99makefloppy
[01:17] <henry54> ron999: can't you scroll back?
[01:17] <axyjo> josh__, yes if you compress it using the right options
[01:17] <tommy2k4> is there something like partition magic for windows
[01:17] <axyjo> bam_, be right back
[01:17] <tommy2k4> for free*
[01:17] <bam_> ofcourse
[01:17] <josh__> ... guess i will have to look into that option
[01:17] <henry54> ron999: first:  cd /etc/rc2.d; sudo cp S20makedev S99makefloopy
[01:17] <ndlovu> does anyone know how to associate lpr with a default printer? I'm trying to get mpage to work...
[01:18] <henry54> ron999: then: edit /etc/rc2.d/S99makefloppy
[01:18] <ron999> henry54 i'm new to linux, only installed it last week....please start again
[01:18] <Rasmus89> Hello! I have just installed Ubuntu and I want to put some files to the "File System" / root but it doesnt give me permission. how do I get permission?
[01:18] <dabar> tommy2k4: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[01:18] <sskroeder> anyone here know if it's reasonably easy to switch to LDAP based authentication from using NIS ???
[01:18] <ron999> henry54 please start again
[01:18] <dabar> tommy2k4: it is in main, though.
[01:18] <henry54> ron999: which editor have you used?
[01:18] <henry54> ron999: first:  cd /etc/rc2.d; sudo cp S20makedev S99makefloopy
[01:18] <henry54> ron999: then: edit /etc/rc2.d/S99makefloppy
[01:18] <ardchoille> Man, the Ubuntu wiki ROCKS! Kudos to the folks who continue to add to it :)
[01:18] <Rambo3> henry54, are you shure about that
[01:18] <tommy2k4> no dabar i need a partitioner that works on windows
[01:18] <dabar> Rasmus89: what files do you want to put there?
[01:18] <tommy2k4> cos i b0rked my kubuntu
[01:18] <saxin> When I use Synaptic Package Manager to remove a package, should I use "Mark for Removal" or "Mark for Complete removal"? And what is the difference?
[01:18] <bam_> axyjo: pm?
[01:18] <henry54> Rambo3 about what?
[01:18] <ndlovu> "make default" in the printers setup did it.
[01:18] <dabar> tommy2k4: can't you start a desktop CD, and do it?
[01:18] <markrian> frogzoo: where did you hear that?
[01:19] <axyjo> bam_, what about pm?
[01:19] <tommy2k4> hm
[01:19] <Rasmus89>  dabar: actually I am putting folders, three folders.. with files. 'etc','opt','usr' with some programs and such
[01:19] <tommy2k4> livecd takes literally forever to load though especially on this slow pc
[01:19] <bam_> could I pm you?
[01:19] <axyjo> bam_, sure
[01:19] <Rambo3> henry54, just asking about editing links
[01:19] <henry54> damned Ctrl-W.... :-)
[01:19] <ron999> henry54 please start again
[01:19] <Rasmus89> dabar: I got told I should write cp somethinhg but it didnt give me permission
[01:20] <henry54> Rambo3: once you copy the soft link, it becomes a regular file.
[01:20] <dabar> tommy2k4: I have no other suggestions, google for it, I have not heard of another solution yet.
[01:20] <ardchoille> saxin: From what I understand, Mark for removal removes the app, Mark for complete removal reomves the app *and* config files.
[01:20] <dabar> Rasmus89: I know, cause root owns that directory, and only he can write to it. Why are you writing there if you do not even know how to? What do you need to write there?
[01:20] <tommy2k4> kk
[01:20] <Rasmus89> dabar: it said: cp etc/* /etc/
[01:20] <Rasmus89> I am installing a program
[01:20] <henry54> ron999: what editor do you use?
[01:21] <Rasmus89> I am supposed to be the root
[01:21] <Rambo3> henry54, is it better to create /etc/init.d/floppywhtever and update rcs . anyway you seam to know what you are doing
[01:21] <saxin> ardchoille: aha. thanks for the information :)
[01:21] <dabar> Rasmus89: what program? You can be root, ya, but wait...
[01:21] <ron999> henry54 gedit
[01:21] <bam_> axyjo:are you getting my pm's?
[01:21] <dabar> bam_: are you registered?
[01:21] <ardchoille> saxin: I don't know what is meant by "configuration files" but That is what I know. You're welcome :)
[01:21] <mastermoll88> people...i have a bit of a problem....
[01:21] <henry54> Rambo3: well, I know it _would_ be the cleaner way... then again, the floppy already seems to have a problem ;-)
[01:21] <bam_> I dont think so
[01:22] <mastermoll88> with the TV Tuner card...
[01:22] <henry54> ron999: well, then go to the command line and run:
[01:22] <mastermoll88> basicly the ubuntu sistem doesn`t autodetect it..
[01:22] <Rasmus89> dabar: when I log in with the username 'ralle' and the password as the only existing user, I should be root but I ain't
[01:22] <dabar> mastermoll88: you have searched on google on how to use the card with ubuntu, right?
[01:22] <henry54> ron999: cd /etc/rc2.d; sudo cp S20makedev S99makefloopy
[01:23] <mastermoll88> where is the CARDLIST for the kernel so i can see the numbers for my tuner card
[01:23] <mastermoll88> ?
[01:23] <ron999> henry54 wait please
[01:23] <Rambo3> mastermoll88, what type of card do lspci and find it
[01:23] <dabar> You should not be root with any user except root, and that is disabled on Ubuntu. Go read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:23] <mastermoll88> it`s a leadtek PVR2000
[01:23] <ardchoille> mastermoll88: Does this help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:23] <mastermoll88> but the system doesn`t detect it..
[01:24] <mastermoll88> and i only need to find the CARDLIST , i can handle things from there,.,,,
[01:24] <mastermoll88> yes , it does !
[01:24] <ron999> henry54 should there only be one o in floppy?
[01:24] <mastermoll88> thank`s
[01:24] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[01:24] <Rambo3> mastermoll88, no not buy default , i had to make my /etc/init.d/tv for my leadtek xp 2000 card , you need a bit of configuration
[01:25] <dabar> Rasmus89: in general, all applications that are worth installing are already in the ubuntu repositories, and we install with synaptic/aptitude. If you really find out that program does not exist in a nicely packaged format for your ubuntu system, use the informatiuon on that page to install the program, but otherwise install the ubuntu package through the apt system. Read the root page when you have time.
[01:25] <axyjo> hey people, i've got a problem with my gparted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18759
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> also worth noting is
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> !software
[01:25] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[01:25] <dabar> mastermoll88: type in your card model and make into google and add the keyword ubuntu, and read.
[01:25] <henry54> ron999: yes, sorry, it's a typo.
[01:25] <Rasmus89> dabar: I see, thanks
[01:26] <mastermoll88> crap...
[01:26] <mastermoll88> Leadtek 	
[01:26] <mastermoll88> WinFast TV 2000 XP Expert 	
[01:26] <mastermoll88> bttv 	
[01:26] <mastermoll88> Yes 	
[01:26] <mastermoll88> partially 	
[01:26] <mastermoll88> 5.10 	
[01:26] <henry54> ron999: you can name whatever you want, like S99local
[01:26] <mastermoll88> Some keys on the remote control aren't recognized. XawTV don't works (TvTime works).
[01:26] <mastermoll88> tvtie doesn`t work with this card ! i get no picture at all !
[01:26] <Rasmus89> where do I find the apt system?
[01:27] <dabar> Rasmus89: read the page ubotu posted last.
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> Rasmus89: use synaptic, its a front end to the apt system.
[01:27] <dabar> meh...
[01:27] <mastermoll88> people , where is the CARDLIST in the ubuntu kernel documentation ?
[01:27] <mastermoll88> can i have a link please ?
[01:27] <henry54> ron999: then run: sudo gedit S99makefloopy
[01:27] <dabar> Rasmus89: don't read it, that is different.
[01:27] <tommy2k4> how can i delete my swap partition from terminal
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> tommy2k4: why?
[01:28] <dabar> mastermoll88: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1261662
[01:28] <tommy2k4> i made / too small so i need to delete swap and /home so i can resize /
[01:28] <tommy2k4> lol
[01:28] <frogzoo> tommy2k4: sudo swapoff /dev/sfjlj
[01:29] <tommy2k4> ty
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> tommy2k4: just curious, how small did you make it?
[01:29] <Rambo3> mastermoll88, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimedia?highlight=%28winfast%29
[01:29] <tommy2k4> like 2.5gb i believe
[01:29] <frogzoo> tommy2k4: best to do this as single user, btw
[01:29] <tommy2k4> i can only login as single use
[01:29] <tommy2k4> user*
[01:29] <heatxsink> is there anyway to make a ubuntu installation boot terminal mode instead of GDM everytime?
[01:29] <mastermoll88> nope sory Rambo3 , i allredy tryed that
[01:29] <mastermoll88> didn`t work for me
[01:29] <dabar> heatxsink: turn off gdm?
[01:29] <heatxsink> dabar:  that's it?
[01:29] <ron999> henry54 ok done gedit makefloopy, what now
[01:30] <dabar> heatxsink: try dpkg-reconfigure
[01:30] <frogzoo> heatxsink: delete /etc/rc2.d/*gdm
[01:30] <heatxsink> k
[01:30] <mastermoll88> any other ideas ?
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> no, don't delete anything there. Use bum to edit what runs on startup.
[01:30] <heatxsink> bum?
[01:30] <tommy2k4> time to retry
[01:30] <CarinArr> hey is there a simple way to run some sort of hardware diagnostics in ubuntu?
[01:30] <tommy2k4> although
[01:30] <Davo_Dinkum> cya ppl
[01:30] <henry54> ron999: well, did you run sudo gedit S99makefloopy   ?
[01:30] <dabar> frogzoo: ya, deletion is not the way:)
[01:30] <tommy2k4> will i be able to resize / while logged in as single user
[01:30] <jareth_> heatxsink change runlevel in inittab to runlevel 3
[01:30] <Rambo3> mastermoll88, there isnt anything there to try . it just says use  bttv to install you card
[01:30] <frogzoo> meh - everyone's a critic
[01:31] <dabar> tommy2k4: you have to chroot, afaik.
[01:31] <dabar> unmount it in other words.
[01:31] <henry54> ron999: otherwise, you can't save it (and gedit tells you: read-only in the header)
[01:31] <mastermoll88> i did that !
[01:31] <jareth_> heatxsink i mean runlevel 2 for terminal
[01:31] <ron999> henry54 yes i did, you missed my reply, i've run it, what next please
[01:31] <dmsantam> i want to watch streaming video file (.asx). what application can do this in ubuntu?
[01:31] <dabar> tommy2k4: make sure you ask someone who knows what to do.
[01:31] <codecaine> how can you stop auto mounting in ubuntu?
[01:31] <frogzoo> jareth_: that's redhat - not debian, which has all the runlevels the same by default, strange but true
[01:31] <mastermoll88> and yet , the system still pretend that the card does not exist
[01:31] <tommy2k4> na ima try it now
[01:31] <tommy2k4> if it breaks ill reinstall
[01:31] <mastermoll88> but i use it perfectly in windows , so the card works
[01:31] <mjr> codecaine, system/preferences/media or something
[01:31] <fyrestrtr> or atleast use update-rc.d
[01:31] <tommy2k4> only just reinstalled yesterday anyway
[01:31] <dabar> codecaine: just of the media, like cds, and that?
[01:31] <jareth_> frogzoo: ok
[01:32] <henry54> ron999: well, delete evertything in that copy but the first line  (it reads #! /bin/sh)
[01:32] <fyrestrtr> mastermoll88: just because something works in windows, doesn't mean it will work properly in linux.
[01:32] <fyrestrtr> mastermoll88: prime example, winmodems.
[01:32] <axyjo> hey people, i've got a problem with my gparted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18759
[01:32] <henry54> ron999: and add your makenod ... command in the next line
[01:32] <mastermoll88> yeah...anyway..where do i find the CARDLIST in the kernel documentation !?!? where is the kernel documentation for Ubuntu !?!?!
[01:32] <henry54> ron999: then save it and Bob's your uncle...
[01:32] <codecaine> harddrives
[01:32] <fyrestrtr> mastermoll88: you have to install it.
[01:32] <frogzoo> axyjo: still no joy? which distro? also, have you recently 'sudo apt-get update'?
[01:33] <mastermoll88> how !?!? where do i find it ?
[01:33] <dabar> codecaine: ? the auto mounting partition table is in /etc/fstab
[01:33] <Ronz> what is the name of the package that lets me burn mp3's with k3b?
[01:33] <axyjo> frogzoo i'm on ubunto 6.06 and i've tried that apt-get
[01:33] <fyrestrtr> Ronz: lame?
[01:34] <Ronz> that might be it fyrestrtr ....i just forget the name of the package
[01:34] <ron999> henry54 wait please
[01:34] <Rambo3> mastermoll88, and modprobe bttv fails?
[01:34] <mastermoll88> yeah
[01:34] <Rambo3> whats the error
[01:34] <mastermoll88> look , i just need someone to tell me WHERE IS THE DAMN "CARDLIST" !?!?!?!?
[01:34] <dabar> Ronz: good question, I think it is libmad0
[01:34] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: those errors are regarding glib, not gparted.
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> mastermoll88: don't yell.
[01:35] <mastermoll88> so i can find out what code my Tv Tuner is..
[01:35] <dabar> search for that, Ronz
[01:35] <frogzoo> axyjo: dunno, if your partition's already setup, just use mkfs.ext3, & then see if it's a gparted problem, or gnome more generally
[01:35] <Ronz> ok, thx dabar
[01:35] <dabar> Ronz: welcome, I asked google. "k3b mp3"
[01:35] <axyjo> frogzoo thanks
[01:36] <frogzoo> axyjo: that is, if you're trying to format - if you're resizing, then don't - mkfs.ext3 will scrub the partition
[01:36] <Ronz> dabar, i have libmad0 installed. need it for amarok mp3's
[01:36] <Rasmus89> dabar: I cant move files to the root by using sudo
[01:36] <Ronz> and fyrestrtr , it wasn't lame
[01:36] <dabar> Ronz: it says libk3b2-mp3.
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> mastermoll88: sudo apt-get install linux-doc linux-doc-2.6.15 and quit your yelling.
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> Ronz: well, it was a guess, as lame is mp3 encoder.
[01:36] <henry54> ron999: who mentioned the mknod command to you in the first place anyway? it's quite a fancy command and not many people would know it, let alone know how to use it properly...
[01:36] <mastermoll88> thank`s
[01:36] <Ronz> hehe
[01:36] <axyjo> frogzoo, yes...gparted resizes nicely but doesnt format
[01:37] <dabar> omg, how many Ubuntu books: http://smorgasbord.net/fix_k3b_mp3_burn_problem_dapper_drake
[01:37] <Ronz> dabar, i think that may be the library for k3b 2 make mp3's...
[01:37] <Ronz> =P
[01:37] <Rasmus89> what kind of system is this? I cant mess anything up
[01:37] <IRCMonkey> guys, what's the best irc client to use?
[01:37] <ron999> henry54 ive sudo gedit makefloopy and deleted everything except the first line with #! /bin/sh, what next please
[01:37] <imme-emosol> Hello, what makes ubuntu better then knoppix?
[01:37] <frogzoo> axyjo: oh, well if you're resizing, maybe use parted to resize?
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> Rasmus89: well, it aint windows :)
[01:37] <dabar> Rasmus89: I need you to tell me what you are installing before I spend any more time onyour issue
[01:37] <Ronz> IRCMonkey, i like xchat
[01:37] <axyjo> frogzoo, its ok
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> imme-emosol: the people that use it.
[01:37] <Ronz> IRCMonkey, just plain xchat.
[01:37] <dabar> Rasmus89: you can mess _everything_ up
[01:37] <axyjo> but thanks for telling me about mkfs.ext3
[01:37] <henry54> ron999: enter your     makenod ...    command in the next line, the one you typed in before.
[01:37] <IRCMonkey> Ronz, thanks
[01:37] <Ronz> np
[01:38] <imme-emosol> fyrestrtr, Hmmm okay, so more support for ubuntu?
[01:38] <Rasmus89> dabar: I want to move over my old cedega files. my favorite version actually.. and I have the three folders with some of its files in. and I am going to put one in usr/bin etc
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> imme-emosol: I suppose. Its up there with the commercial offerings.
[01:38] <ron999> henry54 ok, shall i just type mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0, is that correct, no need to use sudo?
[01:38] <henry54> ron999: The filename has to start with a capital-S , hence S99makefloppy, ok? just makefloppy won't work.
[01:38] <Ronz> that was it dabar , thx
[01:39] <axyjo> general question, is it ok to login to root using gdm?
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> imme-emosol: although, linux is linux. So even if you go with ______ (insert favorite distro) you can get most functionality that ubuntu provides; more so if you go with another debian-based distro.
[01:39] <frogzoo> axyjo: it's a bad bad bad idea
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: no
[01:39] <henry54> ron999: /bin/mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0
[01:39] <mateb> Ronz, thanks i'm in xchat now
[01:39] <dabar> Rasmus89: OK, and are you following some instructions? Do you have some relevant output from some commands? Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, the web site from the /topic to paste.
[01:39] <henry54> ron999: no sudo...
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: and unless you did something special, you can't login as root.
[01:39] <axyjo> even if your /home dir is seriously messed up?
[01:39] <nvictor> ndlovu: it's the weirdest thing I've seen in my life, thought I have followed all the steps on the page, and add the cdrom to my source list, the upgrade is still operating via internet
[01:39] <maja> any one know how to mount a firewire drive ?
[01:39] <mateb> Ronz, what's the best way to dress it up? any suggestions?
[01:39] <imme-emosol> fyrestrtr, Is knoppic debian-based?
[01:39] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, is set the option in config
[01:39] <henry54> ron999: this command will be run by a supe user process already.
[01:40] <imme-emosol> fyrestrtr, *knoppix
[01:40] <nvictor> ndlovu: 500Mo to download :(
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> imme-emosol: I don't know
[01:40] <imme-emosol> k
[01:40] <Ronz> mateb, i like my xchat naked imo. =P
[01:40] <peippo> is it possible to setup swat w/o enablin root account (setting root password) ?
[01:40] <dabar> maja: well...what is its device node and file system?
[01:40] <henry54> ron999: hence you don't need the sudo. and you don't want to enter your password all the time anyway, do you?
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: the best course of action for you, reboot from the desktop cd, and then do the partition nonsense.
[01:40] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, thanks
[01:40] <B_Lizzard> Hello
[01:40] <mateb> Ronz, alright, but which font/ color scheme?
[01:40] <maja> dabar: filesystem, ide hardrive inside a fire wire case
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: if you are trying to work on a partition that is mounted, you will most likely break your system.
[01:40] <ndlovu> nvictor, a lot of the packages have been updated since the release. those will be downloaded from the Internet anyway
[01:40] <B_Lizzard> I have a question to ask
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> !ask
[01:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:41] <maja> dabar: i have tried /dev/sda but that is my root drive
[01:41] <nvictor> ndlovu: ok
[01:41] <ron999> henry54 i've added the command , now shall i save it? what as and where?
[01:41] <ndlovu> nvictor, if you upgrade completely from the cd, it will still then download all those packages
[01:41] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, nah... i;m not.  i always unmount them when i dont need them
[01:41] <Ronz> mateb, whichever you like. i left mine the default. its the color scheme ive used forever
[01:41] <nvictor> ndlovu: I see
[01:41] <ndlovu> nvictor, but yes, I had the same reaction!
[01:41] <dabar> maja: firewire is a cable. do you have a /dev/sda<somenumber>
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> maja: type tail -f /var/log/messages -- then plug in the drive (or replug it in) and see what it is mounted as.
[01:41] <B_Lizzard> I have a package that I install with --force-depends, because it depends on a obsolete dependancy, but otherwise works OK, but it always comes out as "broken"
[01:41] <Rasmus89> dabar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18768
[01:41] <mateb> Ronz, hehe when you meant naked -  you meant it.
[01:41] <maja> dabar: yup but that is my root disk
[01:41] <B_Lizzard> How do I stop it from being "broken"
[01:41] <henry54> ron999: just save it, yes.
[01:42] <Ronz> just like ma woman mateb   =)
[01:42] <maja> dabar: there are some unaccouted for sdan's
[01:42] <henry54> ron999: it shoudl already be in the right directory.
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: unless you really know what you are doing (which, if you put your /home partition as fat32, I assume you don't) you shouldn't unmount your /home partition -- I think I remember your problem from a few days back.
[01:42] <dabar> maja: follow what fyrestrtr told you, and post output of that and "sudo mount"  to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:42] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, yes that was me...
[01:42] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, but isnt the root home directory /root?
[01:42] <henry54> ron999: you can check it with: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S99make*
[01:43] <dabar> maja: sda is usually sata drives, not ide
[01:43] <ron999> henry54 wait please
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: yes, it is. But the *safest* way for you to do this is via the live cd.
[01:43] <dabar> Rasmus89: are you in the cedega dir in a terminal>
[01:43] <tommy2k4> whats that apt-get command to delete all the cached files and .deb files
[01:43] <dabar> ?
[01:43] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, thanks
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> tommy2k4: I believe apt-get clean
[01:43] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, cd and dvd both right?
[01:43] <ardchoille> sudo apt-get clean
[01:43] <FatalCure> tommy2k4: apt-get clean
[01:43] <tommy2k4> ty
[01:43] <tommy2k4> brb reboot
[01:43] <Rasmus89> dabar: yes
[01:44] <dabar> tommy2k4: reboot for a kernel reboot?
[01:44] <ron999> henry54 no output from ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S99make*
[01:44] <axyjo> and is there an ext3 driver for microshaft windiz xp?
[01:44] <dabar> Rasmus89: and post output of a "ls *", please.
[01:44] <dabar> maja: you use a terminal?
[01:45] <maja> dabar: yup
[01:45] <dabar> maja: maja is a girl's name where I am from
[01:45] <frogzoo> axyjo: http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/
[01:45] <scheuri> hi all
[01:45] <dabar> maja: will you do what I asked you to?
[01:45] <axyjo> frogzoo, thanks
[01:45] <maja> dabar: to many places to say any more
[01:45] <maja> dabar: working on it
[01:45] <dabar> k
[01:45] <henry54> ron999: did you really run:    cd /etc/rc2.d ; sudo cp  S20makedev S99makefloppy     in the first place?
[01:45] <henry54> ron999: without an error message?
[01:45] <Rasmus89> dabar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18769
[01:46] <maja> there we go posted
[01:46] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: well, either one. You just need to *not* use the drive.
[01:46] <fyrestrtr> dabar: dabar is the name of a cartoon elephant where I am from.
[01:46] <ron999> henry54 i've forgotten, shall i run it again
[01:46] <maja> i got nothing from tail -f messages though
[01:46] <scheuri> may anyone point me to a document which explains to me how to add ISO-8859-15? with my UTF-8 most of the people dont see the special chars in chats, mails and so on
[01:46] <dabar> It means beaver here
[01:46] <frogzoo> ron999:  you're doing this the hard way - just install fdutils
[01:46] <henry54> ron999: you must be kidding me...
[01:46] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, as in i cant write to ext3 form xp at all?
[01:46] <dabar> maja: dmesg|tail -f
[01:46] <dabar> fyrestrtr: tell maja what to do for that tail comand
[01:47] <dabar> Rasmus89: ls etc/X11
[01:47] <ron999> henry54 what does frogzoo mean by fdutils?
[01:47] <maja> dabar: i only see portmap problems in that
[01:47] <Ronz> ron999, sudo apt-get install fdutils
[01:48] <Tommy2k4> yey im back into kubuntu
[01:48] <saxin> :)
[01:48] <Ronz> gnome ftw.   =P
[01:48] <ron999> Ronz what is fdutils
[01:48] <Rasmus89> dabar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18772
[01:48] <henry54> frogzoo: do you want to take over?
[01:48] <frogzoo> henry54: is this a trick question? o.O
[01:48] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me I am having a strange issue with logging in
[01:48] <dabar> maja: OK, then run my command, please, "sudo mount", and then "ls /dev", then "sudo fdisk -l", and paste all to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:49] <frogzoo> henry54: but yar, it's pretty straightforward
[01:49] <maja> dabar: ok
[01:49] <henry54> frogzoo: I'm rather serious, gotta finish my dinner...
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> dabar: here = ?
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: that would be correct, you cannot write to ext3 from xp at all.
[01:49] <frogzoo> henry54: k, bon appetit
[01:49] <Ronz> from synaptic: "This package contains utilities for formatting extra capacity
[01:49] <Ronz> disks, for automatic floppy disk mounting and unmounting, etc."
[01:49] <ron999> henry54 thanks for your help
[01:49] <axyjo> fyrestrtr,, but i can read and exec?
[01:49] <dabar> Rasmus89: are those plain files, or directories there? do a ls -l etc/X11
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> maja: how is the drive connected again? Is it a straight firewire device/
[01:50] <maja> dabar: done
[01:50] <ron999> frogzoo what now?
[01:50] <maja> fyrestrtr: connected via a firewire cable (6pin) strate into the box
[01:51] <wheels3572> !checkinstall build essentials
[01:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about checkinstall build essentials - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:51] <Rasmus89> dabar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18774
[01:51] <wheels3572> !checkinstall > wheels3572
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> maja: and when you plug it in, nothing shows up in /var/log/messages ?
[01:51] <dmsantam> hey guys, i installed realplay to get realplayer. but i can't find a firefox plugin for it...
[01:51] <frogzoo> ron999: did you install fdutils successfully?
[01:52] <ron999> frogzoo what now?
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> wheels3572: sudo apt-get build-essential
[01:52] <dmsantam> i want to watch streaming media which requires realplayer
[01:52] <Tommy2k4> i need to delete swap and /home so i can make / bigger, any way to do that without a livecd
[01:52] <dabar> maja: and that firewire is plugged in now?
[01:52] <ron999> frogzoo wait please
[01:52] <maja> yup
[01:52] <maja> pluged in turned on
[01:52] <frogzoo> Tommy2k4: you listening?? swapoff
[01:52] <wheels3572> fyrestrtr: Thanks I am checking to see what checkinstall and build-essentials do lol
[01:52] <Tommy2k4> yea i know that much
[01:52] <codecaine> how can I unzip rars that are multiple like .r00 .r01 .r02?
[01:52] <dabar> maja: I will need a sec, you can ask again, if people have experience with it.
[01:52] <FatalCure> axyjo: btw the fs-driver you've been pointed to _can_ write to ext2/3 from windows
[01:52] <frogzoo> ron999: hurry up & wait :p
[01:53] <wheels3572> !build-essential > wheels3572
[01:53] <axyjo> FatalCure, thanks
[01:53] <dabar> codecaine: man rar, or whatever unrar program you use.
[01:53] <Tommy2k4> if i managed to delete swap and /home would i be able to resize / from inside linux?
[01:53] <maja> dabar: thanks
[01:53] <frogzoo> Tommy2k4: no, you can only resize / from a live cd regardless
[01:53] <wheels3572> fyrestrtr: Could also help me with a strange issue I am having when logging in?
[01:53] <mjr> Tommy2k4, not while the / is mounted, recommend a live CD
[01:53] <FatalCure> axyjo: np :) http://fs-driver.org/faq.html#sup_feat
[01:53] <maja> i'll wait a bit, unless some one knows firewire ?
[01:53] <Tommy2k4> hm
[01:54] <mastermoll88> people...i still haven`t found that CARDLIST...
[01:54] <mastermoll88> anyone else got any ideas ?
[01:54] <Tommy2k4> how bout from windows
[01:54] <Ronz> what are you looking for mastermoll88 ?
[01:54] <Rasmus89> dabar: I hope this isnt second time I post this link but here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18774
[01:54] <wheels3572> What's the command to download 2 files at once I know apt-get but what else
[01:54] <dabar> Rasmus89: ya thanks.
[01:55] <Tommy2k4> apt-get install package1 package2
[01:55] <Ronz> apt-get install <file1> <file2>
[01:55] <mastermoll88> i am looking for the code for the tuner in the CARDLISt in the kernel documentation
[01:55] <ron999> frogzoo i've tried to install it but it says   fdutils is already the newest version.
[01:55] <ron999> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded........what now please
[01:55] <Ronz> apt-get remove fdutils
[01:55] <Ronz> then install it again
[01:55] <mastermoll88> sudo modprobe bttv card=X tuner=Y
[01:55] <frogzoo> ron999: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fdutils
[01:55] <Tommy2k4> once im in the livecd what app will i use to resize
[01:55] <dmsantam> apt-get --reinstall install fdutils
[01:55] <ron999> Ronz wait please
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> Tommy2k4: you need to first be in single user mode, then swapoff to turn off swap. then umount /home, then do whatever you need. But the best, easiest, and safest way is to do it from the live cd.
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> codecaine: unrar the last one first, it will find the rest.
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> maja: what are the last lines of the output from dmesg ?
[01:56] <frogzoo> ron999: & select suid = yes
[01:56] <Ronz> nope ron999 ! running!
[01:56] <fyrestrtr> Tommy2k4: gparted, its in the system menu somewhere.
[01:56] <Tommy2k4> fyrestrtr: i can probably delete the swp and /home its resizing the / thats the problem
[01:56] <Tommy2k4> is it on kubuntu livecd
[01:56] <axyjo> !portscan > axyjo
[01:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about portscan  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:56] <Rasmus89> dabar: this should be quite simple.. I mean.. I just need to put the files there and then it should work
[01:56] <mastermoll88> in order to know what to X and Y are i need to look in the CARDLISt in the ubuntu kernel documentation ex:sudo modprobe bttv card=X tuner=Y . Where is the kernel documentation ??? where is the CARDLIST ?
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> Tommy2k4: gparted can help with that, but you will need a swap partition, so don't forget about it.
[01:57] <Tommy2k4> ya i know
[01:57] <dabar> Rasmus89: it is easy, you just have no idea how to do it.
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> mastermoll88: I told you already where it is!
[01:57] <dabar> Those are directories, and you need to copy them to the right place.
[01:57] <ron999> frogzoo it's asking if i  want to make mount fd user root? is it yes or no?
[01:57] <Rasmus89> yes they should be in the root dirs
[01:57] <mastermoll88> i didn`t find it there !!!
[01:57] <mastermoll88> :((
[01:57] <Tommy2k4> ttyl
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> mastermoll88: how did you search for it?
[01:58] <Rasmus89> dabar: I cant drag them over to their right spots it gives me no permission that's the only prob
[01:58] <dabar> Rasmus89: they already are there, they are just mnissing the filed that you have, and you need to look there.
[01:58] <maja> fyrestrtr: [17179839.708000]  portmap: server localhost not responding, timed out
[01:58] <frogzoo> ron999: yes
[01:58] <mastermoll88> from the system help
[01:58] <mastermoll88> :D
[01:58] <maja> fyrestrtr: [17179839.708000]  RPC: failed to contact portmap (errno -5.)
[01:58] <ron999> frogzoo wait
[01:58] <dabar> Rasmus89: ya, in a nautilus that will work that way.
[01:58] <frogzoo> ron999: wtf??
[01:59] <ron999> frogzoo done it, what next
[01:59] <Rasmus89> dabar: nautilus = A soft-bodied marine animal with many arms and a spiral shell. Nautiluses are related to octopuses and squid. ???
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> maja: paste the last 10 or so lines from dmesg in pastebin
[01:59] <dabar> You can gksudo nautilus, and then you have a root nautilus, which is as safe as knowledgeable you are on not clobbering some files. Since you are not sure what clobbering is probably, make sure you know whast your are doing.
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> mastermoll88: its not there, you need to search the actual kernel docs.
[01:59] <dabar> Rasmus89: nope. nautilus, the gnome file manager
[02:00] <frogzoo> ron999: just try 'fdmount'
[02:00] <Rasmus89> ah :D
[02:00] <mastermoll88> and where are the kernel docs ??
[02:00] <frogzoo> ron999: so long's you've a floppy in the drive
[02:00] <Rasmus89> dabar: but how do I copy them over?
[02:00] <ron999> frogzoo wait i'll try
[02:00] <ardchoille> Rasmus89: in nautilus?
[02:00] <dabar> Rasmus89: sudo cp <exactFileOrDir> <exactPlace>
[02:00] <Rasmus89> doesn't matter.. I just want them over
[02:01] <ron999> frogzoo it says fdmount (): drive fd0 does not exist
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> mastermoll88: /usr/src/linux/docs
[02:01] <Rasmus89> okay I will try
[02:01] <maja> fyrestrtr: posted the last 30
[02:01] <frogzoo> ron999:  u might need to reboot
[02:01] <Rasmus89> but isnt /usr/ a right locaton?
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> maja: link?
[02:01] <ron999> frogzoo i will reboot and report back
[02:01] <frogzoo> k
[02:01] <dabar> Rasmus89: use good judgment, perhaps ask us whether something is the right command, since sudo is omnipotent, and is allowed to break the system in any way.
[02:01] <axyjo> hey, in xchat, what is that bar that appears to the right of the message box
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: its probably a lag meter.
[02:02] <ardchoille> axyjo: fyrestrtr is correct, it's a lag meter
[02:03] <axyjo> ardchoille, fyrestrtr thanks
[02:03] <maja> fyrestrtr: haug on net has slowed down
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> maja: paste the link in here
[02:03] <maja> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18776
[02:03] <axyjo> ardchoille, how did you use it... its just a visual no clicks nothing
[02:03] <Ronz> how do i edit the scripts for amarok? it doesn't want to bring up my lyrics, and i cant find where to launch the script chooser thingy
[02:03] <Ronz> never mind, found it
[02:03] <AT_> hi all, can someone tell me how to get rid of gnome dialogs in firefox? I converted a dapper install to kubuntu and removed the firefox-gnome-support package. dialogs persist
[02:04] <axyjo> !info httpd
[02:04] <ubotu> Package httpd does not exist in dapper
[02:04] <X-sPiKe_iT> :D
[02:04] <ayeee> Does anyone have a page with screenshots over their desktop and there they explain what applications their using?
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: sudo apt-get install apache
[02:04] <dabar> ayeee: cool idea.
[02:04] <BeBraw> which C ide would you recommend to an ubuntu newbie?
[02:04] <Rasmus89> dabar so the command: sudo cp ./opt/* /opt/ is correct?
[02:05] <mastermoll88> the documents where not there  :((
[02:05] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, i know.. i have it but i was just wondering if it was on here
[02:05] <ayeee> dabar: make one :)
[02:05] <Rasmus89> I am in the cedega folder
[02:05] <frogzoo> ubotu: apache2 dude
[02:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about apache2 dude - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:05] <Subhuman> BeBraw, anjuta, but it depends on your C exp.
[02:05] <dabar> BeBraw: eclipse, anjuta, kdevelop, or something similar, read their pages, and see what works for you. Find some tutorials.
[02:05] <Ronz> later yall!
[02:05] <BeBraw> alright. i will check those out. thanks
[02:05] <axyjo> ubotu
[02:05] <Subhuman> BeBraw, if your still new to C, the simple gedit with C highlighting will be fine
[02:05] <passbe> i need a command that brings up the volume gui interface, not the gnome-volume-propterties, but the gui when u hit the keyboard shortcut ?
[02:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:05] <dabar> Rasmus89: probably, see whether that works for you.
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> maja: paste the output of tail /var/log/messages -- and the output of lspci -vv
[02:06] <dabar> Rasmus89: but, if your ./opt has a ./opt/f, and your /opt/f is already there, it will not work
[02:06] <frogzoo> axyjo: u want the apache2 pkg, methinks
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> passbe: if your keyboard has media keys, then you could try mapping those with ... dang, forgot the name of the package.
[02:07] <axyjo> how many config files does apache use under ubuntu? i only know 2 /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and httpd.conf... are there any others?
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: it doesn't use httpd.conf
[02:07] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, i would like that package too... so far only the volume keys work
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled /etc/apache/sites-enabled
[02:07] <mastermoll88> people...the docs where not in the /usr/src/linux
[02:07] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, but its there for some reason... xd
[02:07] <Rasmus89> dabar: it said omitting directory ./opt/kde3 but it isnt in the dir
[02:07] <axyjo> thanks
[02:08] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: yes, I think its an Apache thing, not sure though.
[02:08] <FatalCure> axyjo: it also uses files in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[02:08] <mastermoll88> where else can i find them ?
[02:08] <passbe> they are already mapped, but im mapping a remote control's keys, and id like the command to bring up that niffty volume gui
[02:08] <dabar> Rasmus89: as soon as it is a dir, you need the -r option for cp. Make sure you do not overwrite files.
[02:08] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: okay, let me see if I can find it.
[02:08] <Hexidigital_> mastermoll88::  the man pages, you mean?
[02:08] <mastermoll88> nope..the kernel documentation
[02:08] <mastermoll88> :D
[02:09] <mastermoll88> i need to find the CARDLIST] 
[02:09] <Fjodor> Rasmus89: -i sets interactive mode to cp. Lets you choose whether to overwrite or not
[02:09] <Hexidigital_> mastermoll88::  oh, sorry :(
[02:09] <ron999> frogzoo it seems to be working ok
[02:09] <frogzoo> ron999: well that's nice
[02:09] <Rasmus89> it worked :)
[02:10] <dabar> wtf ubuntu-unregged? I am regged.
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> mastermoll88: its got to be there, what do you have in /usr/src ?
[02:10] <ron999> frogzoo is that what was needed when i did my install, just instal fdutils to get floppy disks to work?
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> dabar: identify to nickserv
[02:10] <frogzoo> ron999: btw, what do you get for 'mount |grep fd' ?
[02:10] <axyjo> dabar, its /nickserv identify <password>
[02:11] <frogzoo> ron999: it needs suid to work properly, ordinariliy users aren't allowed to mount devices
[02:11] <mastermoll88> i have everything but documentation files
[02:11] <mastermoll88> :((
[02:11] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: the 'hard' way to do it is to use xev to find the keycode of the media keys, then use that code to assign them to a function.
[02:11] <maja> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18777
[02:11] <ron999> frogzoo no output from grep
[02:11] <frogzoo> ron999: btw, what do you get for 'mount |grep floppy' ?
[02:11] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, will let you know how it goes
[02:12] <frogzoo> ron999: oh, did you mount a floppy first?
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> maja: just a minute, internet here is lagging.
[02:12] <maja> frogzoo: nice nick
[02:12] <frogzoo> maja: ta
[02:12] <cotroler> i am trying to install ubuntu on colinux....can any one help me pls?????
[02:12] <Tommy2k4> k im in livecd and i got qtparted open and i deleted /home and swap
[02:13] <Tommy2k4> but the resize option on / is disabled?
[02:13] <Subhuman> Tommy2k4, is it mounted?
[02:13] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, i get some keypress and key release events... now which one is the key id?
[02:13] <ron999> frogzoo now i've mounted floppy output is /dev/fd0 on /media/floppy0 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=ron)
[02:13] <fyrestrtr> Tommy2k4: hope you didn't have anything important in there.
[02:13] <frogzoo> Tommy2k4: you need space free at the end of / to resize up
[02:13] <Tommy2k4> there is cos i just deleted swap and /home
[02:13] <frogzoo> ron999: k, that's interesting, thx
[02:13] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: it will say code= somthing
[02:14] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, keycode?
[02:14] <ron999> frogzoo next time i do a clean install do i just need to instal fdutils to get floppy to work?
[02:14] <frogzoo> ron999: u may need to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure fdutils' - to set the suid
[02:15] <cotroler> hello ppl, i am trying to install ubuntu on colinux....can any one help me pls????? tnx
[02:15] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: that's the one.
[02:15] <mastermoll88> so ?
[02:15] <mastermoll88> can anyone help me ?
[02:15] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, thanks... now how do i add them to gnome?
[02:15] <axyjo> !ask
[02:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:15] <frogzoo> cotroler: 'sup?
[02:16] <cotroler> hello ppl, i am trying to install ubuntu on colinux....can any one help me pls????? tnx
[02:16] <axyjo> cotroler, yes go on
[02:16] <mastermoll88> still have not found that damn CARDLIST !
[02:16] <ron999> frogzoo so when i do a clean install i install fdutils then enter sudo dpkg-reconfigure fdutils     is that what's needed?
[02:16] <mastermoll88> where is the kernel documentation !?!?!
[02:16] <cotroler> i cant figure it out how to do that
[02:16] <fyrestrtr> !repeat
[02:16] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:16] <frogzoo> ron999: that will do it
[02:17] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: hold on, got to find the right place.
[02:17] <cotroler> i installed colinux on windows and now i have debian console like....how do i install ubuntu???????
[02:17] <ron999> frogzoo so is this a problem with dapper, that it won't run floppies by default?
[02:18] <FatalCure> !info linux-doc
[02:18] <ubotu> linux-doc: Linux kernel documentation. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:18] <Hexidigital_> !kernel
[02:18] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:18] <Hexidigital_> FatalCure::  thank you :)
[02:18] <FatalCure> mastermoll88: ^^^^^^^^^
[02:18] <mastermoll88> yes ?
[02:19] <Hexidigital_> mastermoll88::  you have to install it
[02:19] <FatalCure> mastermoll88: package linux-doc
[02:19] <FatalCure> Hexidigital_: np :)
[02:19] <mastermoll88> i allredy did :  sudo apt-get install linux-doc linux-doc-2.6.15
[02:19] <mastermoll88> :((
[02:20] <frogzoo> ron999: it will, you just need to know what you're doing
[02:20] <FatalCure> mastermoll88: ah kk,  'dpkg -L linux-doc-2.6.15'  will tell you what files it installed
[02:20] <frogzoo> cotroler: maybe refer to the docs... http://wiki.colinux.org/mediawiki/index.php/ConvertingDistributions
[02:20] <ron999> frogzoo thanks for your help , bye
[02:21] <frogzoo> ron999: np
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.2/notes/rnapplications.html :)
[02:21] <|alba|> Hi, does anybody know how to diable ipv6 on dapper?
[02:21] <axyjo> thanks
[02:22] <FatalCure> !ipv6 > |alba|
[02:22] <sonotos> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798&
[02:22] <axyjo> !ipv6 > axyjo
[02:23] <sonotos> |alba|: see link
[02:23] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, where is the downlaod link
[02:24] <axyjo> cant find it there
[02:24] <DoctorMO> hey all
[02:24] <axyjo> !info "Multemedia Keys"
[02:24] <ubotu> Package "Multemedia does not exist in dapper
[02:25] <axyjo> !info "Multimedia Keys"
[02:25] <ubotu> Package "Multimedia does not exist in dapper
[02:25] <DoctorMO> !info
[02:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about info - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:25] <Rambo3> ""
[02:25] <DoctorMO> hehe
[02:25] <axyjo> !Multimedia Keys
[02:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about Multimedia Keys - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:25] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: best if you read this > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys#GNOME
[02:25] <Rambo3> it cant be space in package name
[02:26] <DoctorMO> axyjo, are you looking for help on the web keys/multimedia keys/extra keyboard keys?
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: if you use xmms, a quick fix is sudo apt-get install xmms-itouch
[02:26] <axyjo> DoctorMO, not any more
[02:27] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, nope.. i dont use it
[02:27] <axyjo> just use vlc
[02:27] <DoctorMO> axyjo, oh because I was going to sujest something
[02:27] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: for the rest, you'll have to read the doc -- until gnome 2.2 makes it out.
[02:27] <zak_> anyone use aviplay? all my mpegs are going really fast... ideas?
[02:27] <blahdeblah_> Can anyone tell me the preferred transfer mechanism for PTP USB digicams on Dapper?  I've tried F-Spot but it seems to crash a bit.
[02:27] <blahdeblah_> I'd also like the transfer to be automatic rather than manual - am i better off just scripting something?
[02:27] <axyjo> go on DoctorMO it still might be a good idea
[02:28] <fyrestrtr> !info acme
[02:28] <ubotu> Package acme does not exist in dapper
[02:28] <frogzoo> blahdeblah_: tried gthumb ?
[02:28] <blahdeblah_> frogzoo: No - thought it was just for browsing images, not transfer.
[02:29] <gandalfcome> is there an xgl support channel on freenode?
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: easiest option is here > http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Configuring_keyboards#Gnome
[02:29] <DoctorMO> axyjo, I'm going to make a little app to configure hotkeys for ubuntu... but you've have to wait :-P
[02:29] <frogzoo> gandalfcome: #ubuntu-xgl
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> gandalfcome: #xgl and #ubuntu-xgl
[02:29] <gandalfcome> thanks man
[02:29] <axyjo> DoctorMO, sure... is there a mailing list for updates for it?
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> DoctorMO: there is already one out :)
[02:29] <zak_> mplayer tends to play .mpg files [and everything else]  very slow... whereas aviplay does them too fast... i'm assuming aviplay is fast because it is using win32 codecs? there seems to be a package for mplayer that uses win32 plugins, though i can't apt-get it [doesn't exist but is referenced by another package] ... how can i get this working?
[02:30] <axyjo> zak_, tried vlc media player?
[02:30] <DoctorMO> fyrestrtr, right typical bloody linux, can't find the code already written to do the job, lets see it then
[02:30] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: download and install acme, I can't find it in repos.
[02:30] <axyjo> ok thank
[02:30] <axyjo> ss
[02:30] <axyjo> * ok thanks
[02:30] <fyrestrtr> DoctorMO: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/sources/acme/2.4/
[02:30] <zak_> axyjo: nup... will google/apt-cache search...
[02:31] <Crembo> how do I solve synaptic claiming every single package is unauthenticated?
[02:31] <frogzoo> I'd like a tool that lets me browse a local mirror, & where the links are broken, downloads the file if the net's up - does such exist?
[02:31] <DoctorMO> fyrestrtr, no screenshots?
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> Crembo: first, try doing an update (hit refresh in synaptic)
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> DoctorMO: you'd have to look, its a background process with a front end.
[02:32] <Crembo> fyrestrtr: oh.
[02:32] <axyjo> how do i ./configure with downloading the deppendancies?
[02:32] <fyrestrtr> frogzoo: well, freeloader can queue downloads, and wget can cache websites for local use; don't know of a program that does both at once though.
[02:33] <Bergcube> frogzoo~  wget does most of what you want.  I've used wget quite a bit, and think it's useful.  Many god and helpful examples in the man-pages as well.
[02:33] <TLE> I need mencoder, I can't seem to find it in repos, do I need to install manually ?
[02:33] <Tommy2k4> why would resize on dev/hda2 (/) be disabled in qtparted when booted to livecd
[02:33] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: wha?
[02:33] <Tommy2k4> theres lots of space to the right
[02:33] <fyrestrtr> Tommy2k4: what type of fs is on it?
[02:33] <Tommy2k4> ext3
[02:33] <axyjo> i'm getting dependancy errors when i try to ./configure acme
[02:34] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: read the website docs.
[02:34] <frogzoo> fyrestrtr: Bergcube hmmm.... seems like a job for an ff extension mebbe
[02:34] <DoctorMO> fyrestrtr, interestingly it doesn't compile on 6.06 standard install... bit of a pointless gui which is hard to install.
[02:34] <fyrestrtr> it will tell you what you need, but at first guess, you probably need the gnome-dev packages
[02:34] <khaled> How can i Switch between kdm and gdm???
[02:35] <Bergcube> frogzoo~  If you feel you have to do it gui-fied then maybe........
[02:35] <fyrestrtr> khaled: no need to, since with either one you can login to both kde and gnome
[02:35] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, nothing on the site, i'll try the readme
[02:35] <mjr> khaled, I'm not sure, but I think sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or kdm) will allow you to change the default
[02:35] <khaled> yea, but i like gdm more and i want to go back to it. Is it possible???
[02:35] <DoctorMO> khaled, and even if you wanted the other for some reason you just need to change what is run when the computer starts in /etc/init.d/
[02:35] <fyrestrtr> DoctorMO: gnome 2.2 has this built-in :)
[02:36] <fyrestrtr> khaled: sure, ctrl+alt+f1 -- then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:36] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, nothing in INSTALL file either
[02:36] <axyjo> !info acme
[02:36] <ubotu> Package acme does not exist in dapper
[02:37] <satempler> where are the ubuntu servers
[02:37] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: then follow the gentoo wiki guide.
[02:37] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, can i use the rpm with alien?
[02:37] <fyrestrtr> satempler: all over the place, why?
[02:37] <satempler> i am not able to get packages
[02:37] <DoctorMO> fyrestrtr, so it records the key strokes but doesn't keep profiles so no chance of usb keyboards being auto detected and loaded
[02:38] <satempler> from us sources
[02:38] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: don't recommend it personally.
[02:38] <fyrestrtr> satempler: what mirrors are you using?
[02:38] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, ok
[02:38] <Hexidigital_> satempler::  us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[02:38] <fyrestrtr> satempler: hrmm, they could be down again. they were down yesterday.
[02:38] <satempler> Hexidigital_ yes
[02:38] <satempler> they where down all weekend
[02:39] <satempler> and to ad to that they where up early this morning
[02:39] <satempler> now they are down again
[02:39] <Hexidigital_> Seveas::  are the servers down again? (us archives do not work)
[02:39] <satempler> what are they running IIS ;)
[02:39] <khaled> Thanx guys, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop... worked fine
[02:40] <fyrestrtr> I think something major is messed up because our international fiber uplink has been down for the past 4 days
[02:40] <kozlojak> when i first start ubunto my wireless keeps cutting out fo about 5 mins then goes to normal and works fine. the router and computer works fine in windows, any idea's what may be casing this ?
[02:40] <Hexidigital_> khaled::  do you need to stop KDM from starting at boot?
[02:40] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, two of the media buttons dont work under the gentoo way and xev
[02:40] <axyjo> is there any where else i can map those two?
[02:41] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: don't know.
[02:41] <khaled> Hexi, I am not sure what do u mean
[02:41] <khaled> ?
[02:41] <fyrestrtr> on my keyboard, all the media keys worked
[02:41] <Seveas> Hexidigital, thanks. I've forwarded the report to the people in charge
[02:41] <satempler> so is there a magic mirror site that i can look at
[02:41] <Hexidigital_> Seveas::  :)
[02:41] <Seveas> !mirrors
[02:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:42] <fyrestrtr> and mirrors of the wiki can be found in the google cache
[02:42] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, are the keyboard configs machine wide or user specefic?
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: depends where you configure them.
[02:43] <axyjo> the keyboard shortkuts menu
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: if you stick them anywhere in ~, then they are user-specific
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: I think those are user specific
[02:43] <axyjo> k thanks
[02:45] <kozlojak> exit
[02:45] <Seveas> Hobbsee, !
[02:45] <Seveas> or actually
[02:46] <Seveas> Hobbsee_, !
[02:46] <Hobbsee_> Seveas: hehe
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3365/resizems0.png why is resize disabled
[02:46] <axyjo> is there any way i can add shortcuts for new things?
[02:46] <cius> you mean in you applications list axyjo?
[02:47] <axyjo> no as in media keyboard keys
[02:47] <ayeee> can i - by hotkeys - choose what workspace an application shall be placed on?
[02:47] <cius> you'll need to make sure you have the correct keyboard setup if you want to use the media keys
[02:47] <ayeee> i dont want to rightclick on it and select.
[02:47] <axyjo> ayeee:you can move it using keyboard
[02:48] <axyjo> ayeee:shift ctl alt (left right up down)
[02:48] <kbrosnan> AT_, Firefox does not pick up the system theme, it is styled at the application level. You should be able to find a theme that fits with KDE defaults at https://addons.mozilla.org
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> Tommy2k4: what is that 2MB free space at the beginning? Your ext3 partition sits in the middle of the free space.
[02:48] <Tommy2k4> i didnt purposely put it there
[02:48] <Tommy2k4> and it wont let me delete it
[02:49] <ilgaz> any powerpc ubuntu users out there? Will ask a weird question. quad g5 here with sort of software controlled liquid cooling (I notice from system log), will it run Ubuntu happily?
[02:49] <cius> ilgaz, I had problems trying to run ubuntu on my G5
[02:49] <axyjo> Tommy2k4, you can delete it if you are able to resize
[02:50] <fyrestrtr> Tommy2k4: you can try to expand the windows partition to swallow the 2MB but *WARNING* this might break your windows install (don't know for sure, but it might(.
[02:50] <cius> ilgaz, it caused my fans to go crazy, they started spinning at full rpm non-stop, so it got really loud.  Then it just wouldn't boot right.
[02:50] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, i modified my win partition a lot and it still works
[02:50] <ilgaz> cius there is "liquid cooling" factor here :) Remember first Linux versions were running fans max speed? I wondered about such a thing would happen since you can't even install 10.4.0 , it comes with 10.4.2 OS X
[02:50] <axyjo> i removed 20 gb from it then put 5 back on then removed 10
[02:50] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: its kind of hit-and-miss
[02:50] <ilgaz> oh cius thanks
[02:50] <axyjo> fyrestrtr, true
[02:51] <cius> ilgaz, welcome, I'm just relating my experience, you might have better luck
[02:51] <Tommy2k4> k well if my windows partition dies then ima cry :(
[02:52] <ilgaz> aha guys, why not get "lisp paste" thing to channel? It could be helpful
[02:52] <erUSUL> !paste
[02:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:53] <axyjo> where do you edit your default music player? i know that preffered applications is the place for web browser, email and terminal but i cant find music player
[02:53] <ilgaz> oh good
[02:53] <axyjo> !flood is an alias to !paste
[02:53] <ketilkn> Can anyone recommend a package, that is not ubuntu-desktop. to install a working x.org on a dapper server install?
[02:54] <Seveas> !flood is <alias> paste
[02:54] <Tommy2k4> maybe xserver-xorg ?
[02:54] <ubotu> flood is already known...
[02:54] <Seveas> !-flood
[02:54] <ubotu> flood is <alias> pastebin - Added by apokryphos on 2006-06-17 22:52:36
[02:54] <ketilkn> Tommy2k4, seems about right. Thank you.
[02:54] <erUSUL> ketilkn: install fluxbox or another wm it will depend on a working xserver
[02:54] <Tommy2k4> k well that wasnt helpful
[02:54] <Tommy2k4> i made my windows partition eat that 2mb free space and i still cant resize hda2
[02:54] <axyjo> i was making a general comment
[02:54] <cius> keilkn, yea, xserver-xorg, you can install just that without all the other "goodies"
[02:55] <ilgaz> look at evil messages on Quad G5 startup, that is why I wonder about Ubuntu support: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18779
[02:55] <ketilkn> erUSUL, I installed fluxbox but that did not do the trick.
[02:55] <|alba|> thanks for the links... instructions  on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 worked
[02:55] <erUSUL> ketilkn: so you are not able to use fluxbox? you should file a bug
[02:55] <AT_> kbrosnan: I am a bit confused. Coming from Debian I have seen these dialogs before with 1.0.7 and got rid of them by uninstalling the gnome-support package. I am using the default theme, so, did they change the dialogs with 1.5?
[02:55] <erUSUL> !bugs > ketilkn
[02:56] <ketilkn> erUSUL, at least there is no startx script installed
[02:56] <CarinArr> ketilkn, are you asking how to install the actual xorg packages?
[02:56] <axyjo> are all applications under gnome supported in xcfc?
[02:56] <CarinArr> cause fluxbox doesn't come with xorg.. it just relies on it being there..
[02:56] <kbrosnan> AT_, I don't know I run mozilla's firefox when I am on linux
[02:56] <DoctorMO> ketilkn, why do you want a desktop on a server machine?
[02:56] <ketilkn> CarinArr, Yes. I need working x.org with a minimum of extra packages
[02:56] <CarinArr> or rather xorg doesnt get installed automatically when you install fluxbox
[02:57] <kbrosnan> AT_, and I don't run kde
[02:57] <ketilkn> DoctorMO, I will be using the machine as a Freevo box so I do not need Gnome et al.
[02:57] <homerh_linux> hiya ppl hhow do you reload your /etc/fstab mounts
[02:57] <CarinArr> ketilkn, that's what i gathered
[02:57] <AT_> kbrosnan: ah ok, thanks.
[02:57] <wanglin-sir> I just install ubuntu,but when ./configure ,it said "no gcc,c....",what can I do?
[02:58] <DoctorMO> ketilkn, what is freevo?
[02:58] <ketilkn> Still no startx script when xserver-xorg is installed. Any more suggestions ?
[02:58] <ketilkn> DoctorMO, PVR system based on Python.
[02:58] <axyjo> wanglin-sir, you have to install gcc
[02:58] <Seveas> !compiling > wanglin-sir
[02:58] <ketilkn> and SDL
[02:59] <AT_> wanglin-sir: aptitude install built-essential
[02:59] <znh> Hey
[02:59] <wanglin-sir> ok ,thanks all
[02:59] <znh> Why is this crappy X server of your very pretty nice Dapper Drake not even shutting down without just hanging and waste energry?
[02:59] <znh> TELL ME
[03:01] <wanglin-sir> in ubuntu ,apt-get is replaced by aptitude ? why?
[03:01] <axyjo> apt-get is still there
[03:01] <Seveas> wanglin-sir, it's not
[03:04] <s_spiff> hey ppl/
[03:04] <n9urk> hi all, Did I read somewhere and properly understand that in debian I can change the apt/sources.list to ubuntu repos and then do an "apt-get upgrade all" and it will upgrade everything to ubuntu?
[03:04] <frogzoo> znh: if you don't like it, post a patch
[03:05] <s_spiff> some1 suggest a messenger better than gaim please, gaim is dry to look at and seems outdated!
[03:05] <gnomefreak> n9urk: its not safe
[03:05] <saxin> which program can I use to record my desktop?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> istanbul
[03:05] <axyjo> how do i create a keyfile using gpg?
[03:05] <axyjo> !istanbul
[03:05] <zak_> s_spiff: i use amsn - though of course it is MSN only... kopete has a nicer interface than gaim [in my opinion] , but is KDE based...
[03:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about istanbul - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:06] <gnomefreak> axyjo: it should already be created look for ~.,gnupg
[03:06] <n9urk> gnomefreak: is it dangerous?
[03:06] <ketilkn> s_spiff, aMSN is more MSN like if that is what you want.
[03:06] <gnomefreak> ~/.gnupg
[03:06] <saxin> gnomefreak: thank you. I take a look
[03:06] <gnomefreak> n9urk: yes debian and ubuntu dont use same package versions/names
[03:07] <axyjo> gnomefreak, it gives me an error when I try to encrypt documents
[03:07] <gnomefreak> axyjo: abd the error might be?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> s/abd/and
[03:07] <n9urk> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[03:07] <axyjo> no default secret key:secret key not available
[03:07] <Tommy2k4> http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9423/snapshot1hs2.png why wont it let me resize hda2
[03:08] <axyjo> !gpg >axyjo
[03:08] <rambo3> !info libqt3c102-mt breezy
[03:08] <ubotu> Package libqt3c102-mt does not exist in breezy
[03:09] <s_spiff> ketilkn, zak_, thnx, i had tried amsn on BB before, i didnt enjoy the theming of it. but yea, features-wise it rules.i'm trying kmess, i'm downloading all the dependencies also.
[03:09] <gnomefreak> rambo3: libqt3-mt
[03:09] <mastermoll88> kernel documentation , where do i find it ? how do i acces it ?!
[03:09] <s_spiff> hey, anyeone tried installing the browser Flock?
[03:09] <axyjo> i did
[03:09] <rambo3> thanx , mythtv dependecy repoted that file
[03:09] <axyjo> you have to download it manually
[03:09] <s_spiff> axyjo, u telling me?
[03:10] <axyjo> s_spiff, yes
[03:10] <mastermoll88> and after download , where fo i find it ?
[03:10] <mastermoll88> :)
[03:10] <rambo3> and i have allready that package installed
[03:10] <sebest> anyone using vmware server on ubuntu amd64
[03:10] <s_spiff> axyjo, el i did download it and all, but i didnt find a way to install it
[03:10] <ketilkn> s_spiff: Personally I like the look of Gajim. Its a jabber clientent. But you can find servers that have AIM or MSN transports if you need those protocols.
[03:11] <DoctorMO> fyrestrtr, hey gues what
[03:11] <DoctorMO> fyrestrtr, ACME is now officially dead, as the functionality has been integrated in the GNOME control-center.
[03:11] <Guhru> My Plextor 712 SATA DVD-RW drive doesn't want to work under Ubuntu, all burning software I throw at it claims 'xxx burning mode not supported by device', have tried TAO, DAO, SAO, none matter
[03:11] <frogzoo> !anyone
[03:11] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:11] <s_spiff> ketilkn, will check out gajim also, but then i'll have to register on the jabber servers right?
[03:11] <axyjo> s_spiff, i believe you have to just extract into a dir then execute ./flock
[03:11] <Awesome-o2000> how can i make festival take input from the command line instead of a file?
[03:11] <ketilkn> Thanks everyone for your x.org suggestions. I needed to install xinit to get my startx script and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to configure everything.
[03:11] <axyjo> DoctorMO, really? its dead?
[03:12] <DoctorMO> axyjo, yep, I thought I'd slip the devs an email
[03:12] <DoctorMO> axyjo, that the response
[03:12] <Zambezi> If I would like to have a commandbased FTP-client with support for SSL, is lftp or pftp the best? I got to be easy to.
[03:12] <s_spiff> axyjo, yup, doin that presntly. so there is no way to 'install' it right? in the sense, like we do in syanaptic, where we get a icon in the mesnu bar and stuff..
[03:12] <axyjo> s_spiff, all you do is create a launcher
[03:12] <ketilkn> s_spiff, that is correct. Jabber has its advanteges though. For instance you can be logged in on multiple computers on MSN (like AIM) with Jabber and the MSN transport. Nice feature. For me at least. :)
[03:12] <axyjo> s_spiff, that should do it
[03:12] <passbe> does anyone know how to bring up the volume gui for multimedia keys ????? pls help
[03:13] <DoctorMO> passbe, what do you mean?
[03:13] <axyjo> passbe, go to system, Preferences and then keyboard shortcuts
[03:13] <passbe> DoctorMO: im programming a remote
[03:13] <zak_> s_spiff: there are more themes available... but yeah the tcl/tk widgets can look a bit crap alongside modern qt/gtk applications - it doesn't come up too often though
[03:13] <s_spiff> ketilkn, yeah i heard about that feature, wuite neat.
[03:13] <s_spiff> axyjo, ok.will check it out.thanx. wondering how that didnt strike me.
[03:13] <axyjo> s_spiff, ur welcome
[03:13] <passbe> DoctorMO: and i have the volume adjust via the command "amixer", i would also like the volume gui that appears when u hit multimedia keys on the keyboard too appear aswell
[03:13] <wims> anybody know why my resolv.conf file gets reset every time i reboot ?
[03:14] <passbe> axyjo: i have, however i need the command line for it
[03:14] <s_spiff> zak_, yup, thats why i got bugged by amsn.
[03:14] <axyjo> passbe, you mean open the terminal?
[03:14] <passbe> axyjo: no, do u have volume control bound to a certain keyboard combination ?
[03:15] <DoctorMO> passbe, I see, what multimedia key daemon do you use?
[03:15] <passbe> DoctorMO: i have no idea ? how do i find out ? im using gnome if that helps
[03:15] <axyjo> passbe, no, i have it bound to only one key
[03:15] <passbe> axyjo: when u hit that key, a gui appears telling showing u the volume level i need to be able to control that gui
[03:16] <axyjo> passebe one sec...
[03:16] <passbe> kk
[03:17] <kouwe> where do i put the metacity themes?
[03:17] <MetaMorfoziS> oh, thanx
[03:17] <wanglin-sir> Seveas, I means if aptitude is good than apt-get ??
[03:17] <passbe> axyjo: hang on
[03:17] <axyjo> wanglin-sir, its personal preferance
[03:17] <passbe> axyjo:  ill show u
[03:18] <axyjo> passbe, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18782
[03:18] <axyjo> look at the bottom third of the screen shot
[03:18] <passbe> axyjo: ok 2 seconds
[03:19] <abeco> hello, I am configuring a xdmcp server, but I have a problem, I have a spanish keyboard and when I log via xdmcp (gdm) the keyboard layout automatically changes to english and there is no other layout in gnome or xfce4. Does somebody know where to change the keyboard layout for xdmcp sessions?
[03:19] <passbe> axyjo: yas thats correct that is the gui im talking about. Now i have a remote control and i already have the button controlling the volume, however im wondering if can bring up that gui, because u can set a keyboard key to activate the command
[03:19] <axyjo> abeco, yuo can shange it at beginning
[03:19] <passbe> axyjo: i would like to find out what command is being run when i hit that key
[03:20] <passbe> axyjo: so i can use that command within the remotes configuration file
[03:20] <ryuujin_> hi
[03:20] <axyjo> passbe, oh... you can just set it using lirc i think
[03:20] <axyjo> !lirc
[03:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about lirc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:20] <abeco> axyjo but I want to put is as default
[03:20] <axyjo> abeco, not sure
[03:20] <passbe> axyjo: ive been searching ? damn that would be great if u could but haven't been able to
[03:21] <bartzila> hi guyz vmware ask me (What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[03:21] <bartzila> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] but the defaul directory is wrong:(!any1 can tell me the path directory?
[03:21] <axyjo> passbe, what?
[03:21] <wanglin-sir> 
[03:22] <passbe> axyjo: haha, ok say if you have the key "Ctr + G" set to volume up.
[03:22] <abeco> axyjo I have selected it at the begining and the xdmcp hasn't apply the layout, is still in english. Any other idea?
[03:22] <axyjo> abeco, no idea
[03:23] <passbe> axyjo: gnome must execute a command once ctr g is hit to bring up that Volume GUi, i would like that command ?? comprende ? soz
[03:23] <bartzila> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match  MY running kernel??
[03:23] <axyjo> just bring up the volume gui or turn up the volume?
[03:23] <passbe> just bring up the volume gui
[03:23] <passbe> and both if possible, but i already have a command for that
[03:24] <axyjo> try doing ctrl + o
[03:24] <passbe> nothin
[03:24] <axyjo> hmm.. dunno
[03:24] <axyjo> i'll be right back in 10 mins
[03:25] <Tommy2k4> http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9423/snapshot1hs2.png why wont it let me resize hda2
[03:28] <s_spiff> guys, whats the best ftp client? I need a simple no frills ftp.. all i will do is upload new stuff to my wp hosting site, like plugins and themes.
[03:28] <PKR_> should you install flashplugin-nonfree if you want flash in firefox?
[03:30] <Bergcube> s_spiff~  You don't need one.  Add the server under Places / Network servers and you can browse it with Nautilus. This is a way smarter method.
[03:30] <s_spiff> Bergcube, cool.
[03:30] <gnomefreak> PKR_: yes
[03:31] <dee> hello.
[03:31] <Bergcube> s_spiff~  Correction:  Under Places / Connect to server...........
[03:31] <dee> does anyone run dosemu under Dapper?
[03:31] <s_spiff> Bergcube, how do i do it? i can't c a option
[03:31] <Steph14> Now that Windows flash is at ver 9 and Linux is still at ver 7.. any idea when I can view fash 9 sites in linux without using wine?
[03:31] <s_spiff> ohh ok
[03:32] <Bergcube> s_spiff~  It should be quite easy to figure out.
[03:32] <s_spiff> Bergcube, yeah, doing it. pretty easy. will buzz if i cant figure out somthing. thanks
[03:33] <TLE> Need devede/gtk help. When I try to add a video file in devede it freezes and I get this error massage at the terminal:/usr/bin/devede:477: GtkWarning: gtk_file_system_unix_get_parent: assertion `g_path_is_absolute (filename)' failed w.set_filename("")
[03:33] <frogzoo> Steph14: as soon as google finds a business reason to support flash 9
[03:33] <Bergcube> s_spiff~  Just a heads-up: This will add an icon for the server on your desktop.  If you remove the icon, the connection will go as well.  I guess there's a way around that, but haven't seen one.
[03:33] <TLE> any idea of what I need to do to fix it ?
[03:34] <s_spiff> Bergcube, thanks for that. I have a habit of keeping my dektop clutter free..so would have deleted it few days down the line :P
[03:34] <Steph14> frogzoo: trying to view podshow needs a version of flash more than the linux version has.  So it crashes firefox :(
[03:34] <linuxnewcomer> hello all
[03:35] <wanglin-sir> hellolinuxNEWCOMER
[03:35] <Steph14> I did email Adobe about the flash issue
[03:35] <linuxnewcomer> does anyone here know how to recover a deleted file?
[03:35] <frogzoo> linuxnewcomer: if it's on ext3 & u dl/d it from the command line, it's gone for good
[03:36] <linuxnewcomer> I logged with ftp into a ubuntu 5.10 with proftpd box
[03:36] <linuxnewcomer> and deleted the wrong file
[03:36] <linuxnewcomer> but I haven't logged out yet just to see if there was any way of recovering it
[03:36] <frogzoo> linuxnewcomer: nope, ouch
[03:37] <linuxnewcomer> I've tried recover and gtkrecover, but no inodes found
[03:37] <Hoxzer> what character set does gedit use by default UTF-8?
[03:37] <frogzoo> linuxnewcomer: ext3 is a bit drastic in removing files
[03:37] <Fjodor> Is anyone using ekiga?
[03:38] <frogzoo> !anyone
[03:38] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:38] <linuxnewcomer> frogzoo: what should I have used?
[03:38] <dyn-afk> not me
[03:38] <dyn-afk> it has this strange behaviour on a LAN
[03:38] <frogzoo> linuxnewcomer: ext3 is really good - just very intolerant of wrong deletes
[03:38] <Bergcube> I often have a few maximized apps.  They hide the gnome toolbars.  So when I want to jump to another desktop I either have to use the <CTRL><ALT><arrow> combination on the keyboard, or unmaximize the app and then click the other desktop's icon.  Is there some way to do this with the mouse but without clicking on the toolbar thingy?
[03:38] <Rasmus89> is ubuntu an X server?
[03:38] <Fjodor> frogzoo: Thanks, but that was my question
[03:39] <linuxnewcomer> frogzoo: how's reiserfs?
[03:39] <frogzoo> Fjodor: I believe it's quite popular
[03:39] <Seveas> Raskall, ubuntu contains an X server
[03:40] <Rasmus89> I tried to install nvidia driver but it says that I am running on an X server so it couldnt install
[03:40] <frogzoo> linuxnewcomer: reiser can get quite cranky, ext is extremely stable
[03:40] <Seveas> !nvidia > Rasmus89
[03:40] <Fjodor> Ok then. I ekiga can't connect to my new account. I'm behind nat and have chosen stun nat traversal. I can log on to ekiga web. Ideas?
[03:41] <Steph14> Rasmus89: You need to exit X server to install the drivers.. which is why I havent done it
[03:41] <Rasmus89> what is the X server anyway?
[03:41] <frogzoo> Fjodor: it'll be a port forwarding issue
[03:41] <Fjodor> Rasmus89: X is what handles all the graphics
[03:41] <Steph14> X server is what provides the graphics interface
[03:41] <Rasmus89> I see
[03:41] <linuxnewcomer> alright, thanks alot
[03:42] <Rasmus89> well how do I disable it?
[03:42] <linuxnewcomer> I'm going to see if I have a raw copy of the files somewhere else
[03:42] <Fjodor> frogzoo: Hmmm, also with stun? I thought that made a tunnel to the stun server
[03:43] <NineTeen67Comet> Any xinerama users here? And if so, can I make my login and splash screens and info windows STOP showing up dead center in the middle of both monitors? It's really becoming a pain to slide the windows over so I can see what I'm doing ..
[03:43] <frogzoo> Fjodor: nat though...
[03:43] <Rasmus89> is x-session-manager the x server?
[03:44] <Fjodor> frogzoo: You are probably right. Looking up the ports to forward
[03:44] <s_spiff> hey anyone here using dapper drake? i have 2 hdds, 120 gb and 8o0 gb... with 80gb as master, 120 slave. the 120 has ubuntu, and when i boot up, it automatically mounts the partitions on the 120gb hdd, but the 80 gb is not mounted. how do i get it to mount automatically with read/write/edit permissions?
[03:44] <Subliminal> i'm having X.org problems, is this the right channel? None of my windows in x have title bars :-/
[03:44] <Steph14> There are some docs at: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[03:44] <frogzoo> s_spiff: assuming it's just data on the other drive, you need to make entries in /etc/fstab
[03:44] <Rasmus89> how do I close the x server?
[03:45] <frogzoo> s_spiff: pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb'
[03:45] <imme-emosol> Subliminal, /msg ubotu !x
[03:45] <NineTeen67Comet> Rasmus89: you can /etc/init.d/xdm stop or ctl+alt+backspace . but that will just restart it ..
[03:45] <Bergcube> Rasmus89~  Don't get overeager there...  I think you could benefit from reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[03:45] <s_spiff> frogzoo, is there wiki on that? i searched, but i got only on mounting a partition. not at boot up.
[03:45] <frogzoo> ^^^
[03:46] <khaled> guys, do u have any suggestion to make my Gnome look better? themes, wallpapers...
[03:46] <s_spiff> frogzoo, huh? whats 'pastebin fdisk ...'? as in should i check the pastebin for that?
[03:46] <NineTeen67Comet> s_spiff: You can put in your /etc/fstab to auto mount or not .. Think it's noauto if memory servers .. then you will have to manually mount it ..
[03:46] <Subliminal> imme-emosol: cheers but it isnt a resolution problem
[03:47] <Fjodor> frogzoo: forwarded tcp 5000:5059 and 30000:30010, udp 5060:5100. Still no go
[03:47] <NineTeen67Comet> gotta git...
[03:47] <imme-emosol> Subliminal, "or other X problems"
[03:47] <frogzoo> !pastebin
[03:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:47] <Rasmus89> NineTeen /etc/init.d/xdm doesnt exist
[03:48] <khaled>  guys, do u have any suggestion to make my Gnome look better? themes, wallpapers...
[03:48] <Fjodor> Rasmus89: You probably use gdm or kdm instead
[03:48] <dee> Rasmus89: What wm do you use? Gnome, KDE, XFCE?
[03:48] <Rasmus89> ubuntu
[03:49] <Rasmus89> I just installed it
[03:49] <dee> Rasmus: so type  /etc/init.d/gdm stop.
[03:49] <Rasmus89> doesnt exist
[03:49] <Rasmus89> nvm
[03:49] <frogzoo> Fjodor: what's the test url?
[03:49] <dee> and  /etc/init.d/gdm start to start it again-
[03:49] <Rasmus89> ok thanks
[03:49] <Fjodor> frogzoo: test url?
[03:49] <imme-emosol> !windows
[03:49] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:50] <frogzoo> Fjodor: there's a loopback you can dial
[03:50] <technel> I installed Adobe Reader 7.0 on Ubuntu 6.06 and I see all of these orange bars everywhere. Any idea how to get rid of them?
[03:50] <Fjodor> Ah. Didn't know
[03:50] <Fjodor> frogzoo: looking
[03:50] <Bergcube> Fjodor~  http://art.gnome.org/
[03:50] <ddonky> crimsun - someone in uubuntu-offtopic suggested I ask you for help with my audio cd problem, you got a minute?
[03:51] <Rasmus89> I made gnome stop but it still says stuff about x server
[03:51] <dee> Rasmus89: and what exactly?
[03:51] <Rasmus89> you appear to be runnning an X server; please exist X before installing.. blah balh
[03:51] <frogzoo> Fjodor: sip:500 ekiga net
[03:52] <Rasmus89> and this screen is SO text-based :D
[03:52] <cabuloso> i have sun java installed and already done the 'update alternatives' thing, but firefox says there's no java plugin installed...
[03:52] <cabuloso> how do i configure it ?
[03:52] <wheels3572> I was told I can ask Xubuntu questions in here is this correct?
[03:52] <dee> Rasmus89: don't know what this will do, but you can try "killall X".
[03:53] <dee> maybe with sudo.
[03:53] <mattnash> My new Dapper installation suddenly stopped processing PHP pages.  Now I get a prompt to download a file of type application/x-httpd-php.
[03:53] <Fjodor> frogzoo: Thanks. Can't connect
[03:53] <Rasmus89> X: no process killed
[03:53] <Rasmus89> ok I will just try restarting
[03:54] <khaled> join /hack
[03:54] <axyjo> Mattnash, are you accessing it via localhost
[03:54] <dee> Rasmus89:  type "ps -ef | grep X"
[03:54] <mattnash> axyjo: No, from a computer in the same subnet.
[03:54] <Bergcube> Rasmus89~  I have an nvidia card in my pc @home.  I simply installed the driver via Synaptic, and it was there and working the next time I started X.  I didn't have to work in the console to get it installed...  So what you're reporting sounds strange.
[03:54] <dee> then you have the PID of /usr/bin/X... and do "sudo kill PID".
[03:54] <Rasmus89> how do I restart my pc in command line?
[03:55] <kbrosnan> cabuloso, http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/java.html#Linux
[03:55] <axyjo> mattnash, my point is that you are not using file:// to access it right?
[03:55] <dee> Rasmus89: sudo restart
[03:55] <mattnash> axyjo: correct.
[03:55] <Bergcube> Rasmus89~  Sudo shutdown -r now
[03:55] <dee> or "sudo shutdow -r now"
[03:55] <damnation> what kernel did ubuntu use before dapper drake release?
[03:56] <axyjo> mattnash, hmm... do you have php properly installed? reinstall and try it
[03:56] <Rasmus89> cool
[03:56] <Rasmus89> restarting now
[03:56] <Rasmus89> I will try using synaptic to restart now
[03:56] <mattnash> axyjo: It was working last week, and I haven't done any updates, but I will try removing and reinstalling it.
[03:56] <cabuloso> kbrosnan, thanks
[03:57] <axyjo> Rasmus89, i think shutdown -r works too
[03:57] <Rasmus89> doesnt
[03:57] <dee> Rasmus89: and you can not shutdown your PC with Synaptic. Synaptic is for installing packages.
[03:57] <ubuntu_> hi
[03:57] <dee> "doesnt" is not a correct error message.
[03:57] <Rasmus89> I meant installing.. you have to type shutdown -r 0 or somerhing
[03:58] <CarinArr> you can do "now" instead of 0
[03:58] <Bergcube> Rasmus89~  Sudo shutdown -r now
[03:58] <ubuntu_> unbuntu cant run exe files right
[03:58] <ubuntu_> unbuntu cant run exe files right
[03:58] <CarinArr> o.O
[03:58] <axyjo> ubuntu_, wrong
[03:58] <skavenge> ubuntu_: with wine it can
[03:59] <axyjo> ubuntu_, exactly
[03:59] <ubuntu_> oh
[03:59] <Bergcube> ubuntu_~  Do you mean ".....run programs intended for DOS or windos" ?
[03:59] <ubuntu_> erm.. i dunno
[03:59] <ubuntu_> i'm trying to make a windows bootdisk
[03:59] <ubuntu_> what i cant open the exe fle
[03:59] <ubuntu_> *but
[03:59] <axyjo> is it an archive?
[04:00] <ubuntu_> not sure
[04:00] <axyjo> u want a windows bootdisk?
[04:00] <axyjo> what version?
[04:00] <dee> ubuntu_: You must use Wine...
[04:00] <dee> Take a look at www.winehq.com
[04:00] <ubuntu_> ok
[04:00] <skavenge> if its an exe archive you can just unzip it though
[04:00] <Bergcube> ubuntu_~  I recommend you go to www.ultimatebootcd.com  Find the email link to the guy that made it.  He's experienced and he does answer mails.  Good luck.
[04:00] <axyjo> ubuntu_, what version?
[04:01] <axyjo> ubuntu_, what version of windows?
[04:01] <Zambezi> If I install open-ssl, should SSL-protocol be avaible in gFTP?
[04:01] <axyjo> i think thers a package called qasttl or something like that
[04:01] <trafiq> anyone install rtorrent on amd 64? ;
[04:02] <frogzoo> Fjodor: firstly, the test account is: sip:500@ekiga.net   secondly, I think you're missing ports - I see 5063 for instance
[04:02] <Fjodor> frogzoo: Thanks. I couldn't connect, and port forward didn't seem to work, so I'm trying an alternate route by installing siproxd
[04:03] <Awesome-o2000> friggin yahoo and their crapola servers
[04:03] <frogzoo> Fjodor: also tcp 1720 - maybe google 'ekiga firewall'
[04:03] <Fjodor> frogzoo: Ah. Thanks
[04:03] <Rasmus89> I am in the synaptic package manager and I want to install a driver for my nvidia graphic card.. so which file should I select?
[04:04] <dee> Rasmus89: first of all: why do you want to install one?
[04:04] <dee> Rasmus89: and second: whar graphics card do you use?
[04:04] <frogzoo> Fjodor: did you enable stun support in the preferences?
[04:04] <dee> @all: Has anyone experciences with dosemu?
[04:04] <Fjodor> frogzoo: Yes
[04:05] <Rasmus89> dee: I have a gforce 4000  and I want to be able to use opengl and direct 3d in cedega
[04:05] <frogzoo> Fjodor: & stun server = stun.ekiga.net ?
[04:05] <Fjodor> frogzoo: Indeed
[04:05] <frogzoo> Fjodor: :(
[04:05] <Fjodor> frogzoo: quite so
[04:05] <rambo3> Rasmus89, allways ask ubotu
[04:05] <frogzoo> Fjodor: indubitably
[04:05] <Bergcube> Rasmus89~  Wha you want to do is described in detail (and correctly) here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia   And this is the third time I paste this URL to you.
[04:05] <Fjodor> frogzoo: :-P
[04:06] <JethroDawnfine> hey, does anybody here use NVU for PHP programming?
[04:06] <axyjo> JethroDawnfine, didnt find it useful for php
[04:06] <dee> Bergcube: Maybe now he will get it. And thanks that you said that... I would have pasted the text here... ;)
[04:06] <JethroDawnfine> oh, ok... I was thinking about its WYSIWYG capabilities
[04:07] <Rasmus89> so what will I need to get opengl?
[04:07] <Bergcube> dee~  The essence of support; repeatedly repeat repetitions.  ;-)
[04:08] <dee> Bergcube: *lol*
[04:08] <kouwe> JethroDawnfine: i use bluefish wich has some predefined options in it
[04:08] <CarinArr> rasmus89, in what sense?
[04:08] <Rasmus89> I want to use it in cedega
[04:08] <Enthusiast78> Greetings! What's the simplest way to share a printer in 5.10?
[04:08] <Rasmus89> it said "failed" in the test
[04:09] <CarinArr> what video card do you have?
[04:09] <Enthusiast78> It was successfully added in the System, Admin, Printing window.
[04:09] <ubuntu_> how do i run rpm files pls, i have n ide how to use unbuntu ....
[04:09] <ubuntu_> *ide
[04:09] <ubuntu_> *idea
[04:09] <Rasmus89> I have a Geforce4 Ti 4800 SE
[04:09] <rambo3> ubuntu_, you dont if you can find.deb
[04:10] <ubuntu_> oh ok
[04:10] <ubuntu_> i'm trying to get gaim
[04:10] <CarinArr> rasmus89, and have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[04:10] <JethroDawnfine> ah, well... I'm gonna try bluefish then... I was using gPHPEdit but I was looking for something that would show me the design part of it... but...
[04:10] <ubuntu_> i dont think theres a .deb
[04:10] <neutrinomass> ubuntu_ , from synaptic, select gaim and install it :) You don't need to manually search for .debs
[04:10] <Enthusiast78> ubuntu_, Gaim should be installed by default under Applications, Internet
[04:10] <Rasmus89> carinarr: well I noticed in the synaptic manager that I have one of the drivers
[04:10] <rambo3> like apache ?
[04:11] <CarinArr> rasmus89, er "one of the drivers"?
[04:11] <ubuntu_> oh really
[04:11] <neutrinomass> Enthusiast78 , heh, that too
[04:11] <CarinArr> !nvidia
[04:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:11] <Rasmus89> carinarr: yes maybe that's it
[04:11] <ubuntu_> oh crap yea lol
[04:11] <ubuntu_> thanks guys
[04:11] <CarinArr> rasmus89, you have to have a working video card driver to be able to use opengl
[04:11] <Bergcube> Rasmus89~  I all friendliness and with all due respect: It sounds like you're at a point where you either have to resign yourself to reading and learning a chunk of new stuff about your own computer and OS, or you have to get help from someone RL.  Sounds like you're perhaps having more than one problem at once.
[04:12] <neutrinomass> ubuntu_ , generally though, to install something you will go to system->administration->synaptic and install stuff from there. You may want to enable some other the universe and multiverse repositories as well ...
[04:13] <srikanth> Any one knows about python??
[04:13] <Enthusiast78> how do I share a printer in Breezy?
[04:14] <Pinkle_Rose> hello
[04:14] <rambo3> 1 % of the people in #oython
[04:14] <rambo3> 1 % of the people in #python
[04:14] <srikanth> rambo3, u know about it..?
[04:15] <rambo3> no not realy . blank space as a new line . thats too advanced for me
[04:15] <Bergcube> srikanth~  Try joining the channel #python  About 250 users there rght now...
[04:15] <Pinkle_Rose> i cant uninstall vmplayer from repository, ive got erro code 1, how to uninstal this?
[04:15] <ron999> ic56 will you answer me please
[04:16] <Rasmus89> I don't understand this step: Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8.
[04:16] <rambo3> Rasmus uname -r
[04:16] <srikanth> Bergcube, But i dont know how to join in it..?i am a registered user if i type /msg inckserv identify password it is not working...How to join in it??
[04:16] <Rasmus89> huh?
[04:17] <Bergcube> srikanth~  I hope you do type your own password instead of the WORD "password"?
[04:17] <ron999> ic56 will you answer me please
[04:17] <rambo3> !cli
[04:17] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:17] <skavenge> Rasmus89: uname -r in a terminal window tells you your kernel number, you need to install the reistricted modules  for your kernel number
[04:17] <srikanth> Bergcube, ya
[04:17] <Bergcube> srikanth~  Then:  No idea.
[04:17] <ron999> how do i write a script?
[04:18] <srikanth> Bergcube, 1m
[04:18] <rambo3> ron999, for what
[04:18] <BusMaster>  hi..I'm using an ADSL modem which I can connect to my pc via eth. as well as usb. when I connect via eth. i can ping the modem. when i plug in the usb cable, the kernel shows the interface as eth1. I then do ifconfig eth0 down;ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.2 and then I try to ping the modem (192.168.1.1) . But ping fails. any ideas why?
[04:19] <Bergcube> I'm off.  Going to go visit a friend who needs help with his windos computer.  Oh joy.......
[04:19] <ron999> rambo3 i need to get my floppy disk working when i switch on without having to enter a command at the terminal
[04:19] <srikanth> Bergcube, if i type /msg nickserv identify password then it gives nothing plzz solve my problemm...
[04:19] <dee> Bergcube: have fun... :)
[04:20] <Bergcube> srikanth~  Hm.  You have to register your nick first.  I don't remember how..  Otherwise try reading the MOTD....
[04:20] <rambo3> ron999, you could edit /etc/fstab to aoutmount
[04:20] <neutrinomass> BusMaster, I'm not sure I can help you ... 1. Can you do an lsusb and tell me what chipset the modem is based on? 2. In my experience with USB adsl modems, they don't show up as ethernet interfaces - you just have to start ppp after the kernel module has been loaded ...
[04:20] <AkiraYuki2> Ciao a tutti
[04:20] <omoios> BusMaster, you can't use both ....use just eth or just usb
[04:20] <Bergcube> dee~  I can't wait!  Oh no...
[04:21] <Zambezi> What should I install to get SSL-support in gFTP? I tried with ssl-ftp, but that wasn't enough.
[04:21] <ilgaz> you all heard AMD buying ATI yes?
[04:21] <fyrestrtr> yes
[04:21] <BusMaster> omoios, of course. I totally disconnect eth before shifting to USB
[04:21] <neutrinomass> ilgaz , was on slashdot a while ago, but this probably belongs to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:21] <omoios> USB is eth0 ?
[04:21] <fyrestrtr> srikanth: its not supposed to give you anything.
[04:22] <BusMaster> omoios, eth1
[04:22] <ilgaz> of course, sorry... Only thing about it on topic is: perhaps driver coders will finally be fired and both OS X and Linux drivers work fine
[04:22] <Pinkle_Rose> can anyone help me with synaptic?
[04:22] <BusMaster> omoios, i have a regular nic which is eth0
[04:22] <ron999> how do i write a script?
[04:22] <fyrestrtr> srikanth: did you register?
[04:22] <srikanth> fyrestrtr, no no it is giving error password but i enter the rite password
[04:22] <BusMaster> omoios, but I'l totally certain that my current nic is not fouling up things.. Itried this on a friends computer which has no nic and USB becomes eth0. but the problem persists
[04:22] <fyrestrtr> ilgaz: I didn't know there were problems in osx too, but yeah, that's what I am hoping since my laptop is ATI.
[04:22] <BusMaster> neutrinomass, I'm not near that modem at the moment :(
[04:23] <neutrinomass> BusMaster, are you sure that it's supposed to show up as ethX when you plug it in USB ?
[04:23] <fyrestrtr> srikanth: join #freenode and ask there.
[04:23] <BusMaster> neutrinomass, but yes, i can tell from /var/log/kern.log that the usbnet module gets loaded and the iface is eth1
[04:23] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[04:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:23] <neutrinomass> BusMaster: accessrunner based modems that are usb only don't show up as ethX ...
[04:23] <Rasmus89> I have now installed the glx thing and now when I say "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" it says "Error: your X configuration has been altered. this script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe this is not correct...."
[04:24] <nomin-> if I ask a question, will the answer be the same as the answer to this question?
[04:24] <ron999> how do i write a script?
[04:24] <oskude> ron999:  http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> Rasmus89: open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- find 'nv' and change it to 'nvidia' -- save the file, and restart X.
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> ron999: by using a text editor?
[04:24] <Viper550> Hello everyone!
[04:24] <neutrinomass> ron999: Bash script? There are many scripting languages and all are far too complicated too learn without a tutorial/manual etc.
[04:25] <BusMaster> neutrinomass, another thing..on my friends pc, there is no ethernet card. so if I do an ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1, it fails with 'no such device' but after I plug in the modem, i see kern.log has loaded the usbnet module with iface eth0 and if I do ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 it works and I can ping the iface
[04:25] <BusMaster> neutrinomass, this is not accessrunner. ..its form some comany called huawei, smartAX MT841
[04:25] <omoios> ping is the only problem ?
[04:25] <ron999> oskude thanks
[04:25] <ron999> neutrinomass thanks
[04:25] <BusMaster> omoios, well, if I can't ping the modem, I can;t use it as a gateway and I can't access the net via it :)
[04:26] <neutrinomass> BusMaster: There are tens of usb adsl modem brands, but they are all based on 3-4 chipsets. You might find some relevant information on the wiki, although I can't remember the link offhand (should be something like http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsbAdslModems )
[04:26] <ron999> ic56 how do I write a script?
[04:26] <BusMaster> neutrinomass, ok..IU'll google for ubuntu adsl wiki
[04:26] <ilgaz> buy a NIC based one with ordinary network cable, you will be very happy you did it
[04:27] <BusMaster> sure..but for that I Need to buy a nic and a cable
[04:27] <ilgaz> I mean ADSL modem,cable modem, anything
[04:27] <srikanth> fyrestrtr, But when i typed any thing it is giving the message"#freenode-social :Cannot send to channel"plzz help me
[04:27] <ilgaz> BusMaster for example I used this same cable modem on Slackware, Windows and OS X without anything needed
[04:27] <BusMaster> ilgaz, this modem has 4 eth ports and a usb port.
[04:27] <BusMaster> ilgaz, and if i plug in an eth cable in the modem, it works just fine
[04:27] <neutrinomass> BusMaster: You're right in that USB ADSL modem support for linux is poor and has been so for several years. Some work has started though :(
[04:28] <BusMaster> i want it to work via usb
[04:28] <omoios> BusMaster, try to set it from :network tools"
[04:29] <ilgaz> I helped a windows user recently with a USB based DSL modem, she had latest XP etc. Guess what? It was problematic too. They rely on software drivers, that is the problem.
[04:29] <BusMaster> omoios, how will that help if the basic ifconfig, ping. route commands don't do the job ?
[04:29] <BusMaster> ilgaz, Hmm...well, this particular modem works fine with USB in XP
[04:29] <BusMaster> ilgaz, but I don't think its a s/w driver, because hte same moemd works great in linux via eth
[04:30] <omoios> BusMaster,  may be something wrong with up/down eth1 .....
[04:30] <ilgaz> well if you already have it, you will need it to work of course.
[04:32] <javiolo> hi
[04:34] <EvilDude> Can anyone suggest a good applet/desklet type app for displating diff timezones, like a worlc clock?
[04:34] <eshed> anybody here? I'm having problems with SIS650
[04:35] <neutrinomass> Any suggestions for a lightweight non terminal based web browser ?
[04:36] <skavenge> epiphany
[04:36] <EvilDude> Anyone know a good world clock for Gnome?
[04:36] <cabuloso> neutrinomass, dillo
[04:37] <neutrinomass> skavenge : It would be too much to ask for a non geck based browser, right ?
[04:37] <cabuloso> neutrinomass, dillo isn't gecko based
[04:37] <dyn-afk> problem with dillo: don't misread it :P
[04:37] <skavenge> neutrinomass: no idea, epiphany is just the only lightweight browser i've heard of
[04:38] <neutrinomass> dyn-afk, lol - I didn't anyway ;)
[04:38] <gnomefreak> skavenge: links ;)
[04:38] <skavenge> gnomefreak: he said non-terminal based ;)
[04:38] <neutrinomass> gnomefreak, elinks tends to be quite a pain and not as cute as you would think after a few days :P
[04:38] <gnomefreak> oh
[04:39] <bahadirt> hello guys
[04:39] <nomin> neutrinomass:  WWW-Browsers for Linux  http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm/en/lin_browser.html
[04:39] <dyn-afk> dillo...for people with a dirty mind... :P
[04:39] <CokeNCode> ok, guys, i'm getting hell with this tv tuner card, it's a philips saa7130 ...
[04:39] <bahadirt> got a small problem with usr wireless adsl modem config
[04:39] <CokeNCode> can anyone offer some assistnace
[04:40] <eshed> i can't install my video onboard SiS 650 card... can't even go above 60 refresh rate :-\
[04:40] <CokeNCode> i've edited the modprobe options file etc ... nothing ...
[04:40] <CokeNCode> it picks it up ... but it's not showing any channels
[04:40] <CokeNCode> where can i find how to set the "options" settings
[04:41] <Subliminal> hi, i'm having problems with my X setup, i have no titlebars. I tried to setup xgl and it didnt work - it had this effect, so i reversed everything but the problem with my lack of title bars remains. Anybody got any ideas??
[04:42] <ICe_SySteM> hola?
[04:42] <ICe_SySteM> que tal weye
[04:42] <ICe_SySteM> algun espaol?
[04:42] <nomin> en ingles por favor
[04:42] <skavenge> !es
[04:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:42] <ICe_SySteM> gracias
[04:43] <Rasmus89> what do I do to play mp3 songs in ubuntu media player?
[04:44] <kalosaurusrex> !mp3
[04:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:44] <Subliminal> :-(
[04:44] <skavenge> Rasmus89: goto the first link posted by ubuntu, the restricted formats page, click on 'mp3'
[04:44] <oskude> CokeNCode: you could read here http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134
[04:44] <kandinski> how do I manipulate quake2 .pak files in ubuntu? Don't tell me "use zip": pak3 files from quake3 are zipfiles in disguise, but that trick does not work with quake2.
[04:45] <skavenge> CokeNCode: you have checked for instructions on it on linuxtv.org too i hope
[04:46] <MikeyB> I need to recompile the distributed with an additional patch such that I can use the distributed linux-restricted-modules. Help? :) (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210707)
[04:46] <CokeNCode> skavenge errr ... no
[04:46] <oskude> CokeNCode: if you get input from composite input, and no tv channels, then its propably the wrong tuner loaded
[04:47] <netherworld> Hi! There is a new scene in the net ftp://all:q1w2e3@netherworld.is-a-geek.net:5000 if you like it, please consider uploading any related and relevant material. No porno, no movies, no musics! 100GB purely educational!
[04:47] <skavenge> CokeNCode: its the mecha for linux tv-related anything, id check it out
[04:47] <bahadirt> in a network, should I get automatic IPs or Static ips like 192.168.1.2 and 3 etc.. ?
[04:48] <oskude> CokeNCode: just a quess "modprobe saa7134 card=2 tuner=2"
[04:48] <CokeNCode> oskude wrong tune ?
[04:48] <bahadirt> server need to have static one, because of virtual server settings of adsl modem
[04:48] <oskude> CokeNCode: tuner
[04:48] <eshed> Anyone knows where to get Linux SiS650 Graphics driver??
[04:48] <root> what command will give me a room list for this server?
[04:48] <CokeNCode> oskude right ... i meant to type tuner ... i'm sshing into my box ... got a bit of lag here
[04:48] <oskude> ok :)
[04:48] <CokeNCode> amm ... card=2 tuner=2 ... think that'll solve it ?
[04:49] <oskude> CokeNCode: dunno, just copy and pasted it from the link i gave you
[04:49] <MikeyB> Anybody? :)
[04:49] <wamty> what do i need to download to complile javaSE code on linux?
[04:50] <CokeNCode> thanks oskude i'll try that when i get home
[04:50] <wamty> any ideas?
[04:50] <oskude> CokeNCode: roger, if the driver is for your card, its propably just a matter of finding the right tuner
[04:51] <Supermathie> I need to recompile the distributed kernel with an additional patch such that I can use the distributed linux-restricted-modules. Help? :) (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210707)
[04:51] <CokeNCode> oskude ok, thanks
[04:51] <wamty> what do i need to download to complile javaSE code on linux?
[04:51] <Supermathie> What is the magic that produces a 'distribution' kernel?
[04:52] <erUSUL> !kernel > Supermathie
[04:52] <wamty> guys?
[04:52] <airzer0> hi
[04:53] <airzer0> what is the topic?>
[04:53] <Foobal> airzer0: "how AWESOME Foobal is!"
[04:53] <yacc> airzer0: Well, if you ask like that, you can try to convice us that WinME is way better than Ubuntu ;)
[04:54] <airzer0> very awsome if you ask me
[04:54] <airzer0> oh my goosh i love windows me
[04:54] <eshed> umm what's the difference between ubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu etc?
[04:54] <ben__> hi, quick newbie question, how do you extract files as root?
[04:54] <erUSUL> !xubuntu
[04:54] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:54] <oskude> whoever asked about sis video, i found this http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml but its not responding...
[04:54] <airzer0> very carefully
[04:55] <skavenge> eshed: ubuntu = gnome, xubuntu = xfce, kubuntu = kde, etc, different window managers
[04:55] <erUSUL> ben__: extract what type of file?
[04:55] <horus> hi all
[04:55] <oskude> skavenge: *as default! (all have all)
[04:55] <Supermathie> Looks like that page might have the magic I need, thanks :)
[04:55] <eshed> skavenge - tnx :D
[04:55] <airzer0> hi horus
[04:55] <ubuntu> he flikkers
[04:55] <Supermathie> What's the best way of getting a patch submitted into ubuntu builds?
[04:55] <eshed> oskude: tnx, ill try now
[04:55] <skavenge> oskude: yeah my fault, well not on the cd but availableon the repos
[04:55] <horus> i need some help on ubuntu installation, if anyone could help me out?
[04:55] <ubuntu> www. getting a patch submitted into ubuntu builds.com
[04:56] <oskude> skavenge: yup
[04:56] <ben__> erUSUL: I'm trying to extract some icons into the same folder as all the icons are in, but i dont have permissions. is there a commandline thing to extract then i can just do it with sudo?
[04:56] <airzer0> check out www.winme98.xp.com
[04:56] <jrib> ben__: you should use ~/.icons for your own icons
[04:56] <Corporal_Dirge> ben__, What are you using to extract them?
[04:56] <horus> im installing Ubuntu 6.06 on a desktop this very moment, but it always freezes at Configuring Power Management
[04:57] <horus> anyone know why?
[04:57] <ubuntu> fuck
[04:57] <ben__> Corporal_Dirge: just the default archive manager, but dw, I'll just do like jrib suggests
[04:58] <erUSUL> ben__: it is a tar.gz or tar.bz2 or a zi file or what (second time i ask)??
[04:58] <skavenge> archive manager will dump them in ~/.icons anyway
[04:59] <airzer0> 0001110001 0010111011
[04:59] <erUSUL> horus: try booting with acpi=off
[04:59] <horus> erUSUL: how do i do that?
[05:00] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know how to mount a hidden trucrypt partition?
[05:00] <erUSUL> horus: if you use alternate at the boot promt (boot: acpi=off <enter>)
[05:00] <Guhru> ok, I'm tired of fighting my Plextor sata burner, can anyone recomend a good ide burner?
[05:00] <oskude> horus: i think F6 on the boot screen of the cd you can add boot options, add that "acpi=off" in it (with out "" of course)
[05:01] <horus> ok, let me try
[05:01] <horus> brb
[05:01] <gatekeeper> Guhru: Asus are good
[05:01] <airzer0> k
[05:02] <Guhru> gatekeeper: thank you, always did like their cd-roms, I'll give one of their burners a try
[05:02] <oskude> Guhru: i got a LG dvd-ram, works like a dream
 Guhru: Asus are good << they really are
[05:02] <airzer0> yes i like them
[05:02] <skavenge> ive never gotten any dvd burner running as fast as it did it windows, maybe ive just had bad luck but they all have had DMA problems
[05:02] <Guhru> bottom line is, should ide be hassle free, or less hassle free than sata?
[05:02] <dyn-afk> they would be even better if they would do a proper acpi on their notebooks/motherboards though
[05:02] <Guhru> errr, more hassle free that is
[05:03] <oskude> Guhru: if it doesnt work, you can allways change it
[05:03] <airzer0> hi gtx
[05:03] <DoctorMO> Guhru, hastle should only exist if you want it to.
[05:04] <eshed> umm how can i stop X.org?
[05:04] <GTX> What repositry is the package compiz in? I cant seem to install it
[05:04] <skavenge> !info compiz
[05:04] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL composition manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 424 kB
[05:04] <skavenge> in universe
[05:04] <pili> hola
[05:04] <narfmaster> GTX, you probably should look at compiz.net
[05:04] <MikeTheC> hello all
[05:04] <gatekeeper> Guhru: dyn-afk no compalints with the one I have got, much better than my DVD Rom which seems to fail to load some DVD's
[05:04] <skavenge> add your multi/universe repos and you can apt-get it
[05:04] <dyn-afk> there's also a special xgl/compiz repository btw
[05:04] <diablo`>  How can i change my msn account password throught console ? (tmsnc - the only console program doesnt support this)
[05:04] <GTX> Is there a guide of installing nvidia gfx card?
[05:05] <pili> yes
[05:05] <skavenge> !nvidia
[05:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:05] <odat> hi everyone
[05:05] <dyn-afk> I've got an Asus M6Ne notebook (that would be this machine) and it rocks ! :P
[05:05] <eshed> Anyone knows how to STOP X.org?
[05:05] <odat> need some help find java within open office
[05:05] <Toma-> eshed: from starting? or just temporarily?
[05:05] <oskude> eshed: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:05] <eshed> i need to install a display driver Sisi
[05:05] <goonies> is there a way to stop rhytmbox from racing through all my songs
[05:05] <eshed> *Sis
[05:05] <eshed> *SiS damn it
[05:05] <gatekeeper> dyn-afk: do computers too cool :-)
[05:05] <odat> openoffice is asking me to select java and i can't seem to find it
[05:06] <goonies> and putting a stop sign next to each one of em as it races through them
[05:06] <Guhru> is lite-on a decent choice as well, well supported and such?
[05:06] <skavenge> odat; did you install java?\
[05:06] <skavenge> lite-on sucks IMO
[05:06] <skavenge> cheap
[05:06] <eshed> oskude: umm i tried something and it made my screen flicker some time ago
[05:06] <NET||abuse> hmm, can't get my wifi card to run, i'm on the bcm43xx chipset.. what do i need to do?
[05:06] <NET||abuse> it's a pcmcia slot card also if that makes a diff
[05:06] <skavenge> !bcm43xx
[05:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:07] <oskude> eshed: sorry, gotta go
[05:07] <dyn-afk> Guhru: lite-on is fine
[05:07] <dune> Hi, I am having trouble dloading Gimp from the repo
[05:07] <Elko> is there a way to set a smarthost for the default 'mail' program?
[05:07] <muddycat> .
[05:07] <skavenge> dune: you running gnome?
[05:07] <odat> skavenge, yes
[05:07] <skavenge> odat: according to the wiki instructions?
[05:07] <airzer0> i like windows
[05:07] <gnomefreak> dune: its installed by default
[05:07] <dune> MEPIS KDE using Synaptic
[05:08] <gnomefreak> this is not a mepis channel
[05:08] <dune> Sure but I take from Ubuntu's repo OK I will go to Mepis
[05:08] <gnomefreak> dune: try #mepis for help with mepis please
[05:08] <dune> Thanks
[05:08] <airzer0> ok thanks
[05:08] <dEn`> hi
[05:09] <airzer0> hi d3n
[05:09] <dEn`> if debian and ubuntu are same why have ubuntu ?
[05:09] <dEn`> :)
[05:09] <skavenge> dEn`: because they're not
[05:09] <pili> hola
[05:09] <dyn-afk> ubuntu uses more recent versions of the software
[05:09] <odat> skavenge, through synaptic
[05:09] <skavenge> dEn`: i'd  suggest reading more before you start trolling
[05:09] <dyn-afk> debian uses older but more stable versions
[05:09] <dyn-afk> as an end user you won't notice the difference though
[05:10] <dyn-afk> besides that: ubuntu is far more easier then debian
[05:10] <skavenge> odat: so you have the blackdown j2re packages installed?
[05:10] <dyn-afk> with debian you have to do a lot of configuring yourself
[05:10] <Toma-> i tried installing debian once and ended up giving up on linux. long long ago with demudi..
[05:10] <dyn-afk> debian is a very nice distro though
[05:11] <dyn-afk> especially on a server
[05:11] <Supermathie> Debian is not an ideal distribution to use your first time :)
[05:11] <dEn`> ah i see . well ubuntu is good. since i tried free bsd and fedora this weekend and only ubuntu recognised my modem and configuring it was easy
[05:11] <dyn-afk> ubuntu is a better debian derivative if you want to use it as a desktop os
[05:11] <dyn-afk> freebsd is nice
[05:11] <pili> hola
[05:11] <dyn-afk> you can compare debian more to freebsd then to ubuntu imho
[05:12] <odat> skavenge, no not blackdown you obviously haven't been on ubuntu in a while
[05:12] <dyn-afk> ola pili
[05:12] <Foobal> freebsd just has a real kernel, I wouldn't really compare it with any linux crap like debian :(
[05:12] <airzer0> hi <;-)
[05:12] <dyn-afk> Foobal : freebsd is a real OS :P
[05:13] <Foobal> aye
[05:13] <dyn-afk> just not a real desktop os though
[05:13] <skavenge> odat: well if you followed the wiki, blackdown get installed through synaptic, and java through add/remove programs, just trying to figure out which version your running since you just stated you installed through synaptic
[05:13] <dEn`> dyn-afk:  how do i find what port my pcmcia is installed in on debian
[05:13] <airzer0> maybe if you ignor him he will go away
[05:13] <dyn-afk> if you want freebsd as a desktop os go buy an apple mac :P
[05:13] <Foobal> dyn-afk: yeah, it's not very good for a desktop.. but other than that it's just plain superior
[05:13] <t-thing> Hi. What is the size of a regular terminal in characters?
[05:13] <dyn-afk> I love the ports
[05:13] <dEn`> it didnt show up in /var/log/messages . but it didnt show the maker name and say it dosnt have any drivers loaded
[05:13] <Supermathie> den: cardctl ident
[05:14] <dyn-afk> freebsd really doesn't care if you installed source or binaries, it just updates everything and you can remove everything the same way
[05:14] <odat> skavenge, do you even realize that the official sun java is now in synaptic?
[05:14] <dEn`> well Supermathie: i didnt show up in cardctl
[05:14] <Foobal> dyn-afk: also the documentation is better and the core system is just plain rock solid :P
[05:15] <airzer0> i just installed xp but where is the ubuntu button at?
[05:15] <dyn-afk> true true Foobal
[05:15] <tristanmike> LOL
[05:15] <skavenge> odat: obviously, you can run either, sun's version runs horribly for me
[05:15] <dyn-afk> but ubuntu is getting there Foobal :)
[05:15] <dyn-afk> but solaris 10 also rocks
[05:15] <dyn-afk> self healing thingies :P
[05:15] <Foobal> dyn-afk: not as long as the linux kernel sucks like it does nowadays.. yeah I've been thinking about going solaris 10 all the way..
[05:15] <horus> erUSUL: i tried it but it still freezes there
[05:15] <horus> :-(
[05:16] <narfmaster> t-thing, a normal terminal is 80x24
[05:16] <gdb> Solaris 10 is crap (as are all versions of Solaris).
[05:16] <dyn-afk> not an sparc architecture
[05:16] <dyn-afk> *on
[05:16] <gdb> Yes, it does.
[05:16] <dyn-afk> and not with version 10
[05:16] <gdb> You're wrong.
[05:16] <dyn-afk> nope, I'm always right :P
[05:16] <airzer0> airzer0 i dont like you
[05:17] <dyn-afk> and now we'd better go ontopic again
[05:17] <t-thing> narfmaster: thank you
[05:17] <Ng> this is not the place to discuss solaris
[05:17] <dyn-afk> lol @ airzer0
[05:17] <Ng> or use offensive language
[05:17] <skavenge> odat: point is i have blackdown installeed and OO isn't 'fishing' for java anywhere, you must not have the path set for the sun version or something
[05:17] <MikeTheC> got a question if anyone wants to tackle it (prolly real elementary, too)
[05:17] <Floid> There a way to get the nested GDM logins back in Dapper without reinventing the wheel?
[05:17] <muddyca1> .
[05:17] <dEn`> guys ive got a pcmcia card which is working as a modem but cardctl shows this Socket 0: no product info available
[05:17] <dyn-afk> I installed JRE 1.5 on my ubuntu box and OOo just recognizes it
[05:17] <dEn`> so how do i know its in ttyUSB0
[05:17] <ron999> frogzoo the fdutils thing doesn't work
[05:18] <skavenge> dyn-afk: well he's got underlying problems then
[05:18] <dyn-afk> Floid you want to install xnest
[05:18] <MikeTheC> I'm running Ubuntu 6.0.6/PPC and tried to set up Rhythmbox, but it doesn't seem to have access to the MP3 codecs I've already installed for XMMS, etc. Thoughts?
[05:18] <dyn-afk> I think so skavenge
[05:18] <Floid> Does the xnest package come with all the happy-go-lucky xinitrcs and such for itself that the 'xnest is deprecated, use this instead' Xephyr package doesn't?
[05:19] <Ng> !restrictedformats > MikeTheC
[05:19] <Elko> nm, I'll just use nail instead
[05:19] <dyn-afk> MikeTheC use someting like easyubuntu/automatix to install all the media codecs (which comes down to all of the gstreamer-10 codecs)
[05:19] <dyn-afk> you'll have mp3 support :)
[05:19] <gdb> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ -- avoid using Automatix
[05:19] <MikeTheC> Do I install, let's say, Automatix via apt-get?
[05:19] <dyn-afk> haven't noticed that here Floid
[05:19] <odat> well openoffice can find java
[05:19] <Ng> reading the docs and learning is better than easyubuntu or automatix
[05:19] <dyn-afk> but I installed sabayon
[05:19] <skavenge> MikeTheC: id go through the 'make everything just work' section of the restricted formats WIKI to be sure
[05:19] <narfmaster> MikeTheC, Rhythmbox uses GStreamer and XMMS has itw own plugins
[05:19] <MikeTheC> oh, k
[05:19] <Ng> MikeTheC: ubotu should have messaged you a few URLs that will help
[05:19] <dyn-afk> and xnest is a dependency
[05:19] <mnp> does anyone know when the 2.6.16 kernel for ubuntu will be released?
[05:19] <dyn-afk> xnest just works fine here
[05:20] <airzer0> ok im in program files folder but where is ubuntu?>
[05:20] <Floid> Dur, sabayon is, of course, what I want.
[05:20] <Ng> mnp: it won't
[05:20] <gdb> mnp: It's not going to be released for 6.06.
[05:20] <dyn-afk> then just install sabayon
[05:20] <mnp> dyn-afk: i still can't make the changes according to the TuxMobil site for my S1300N notebook
[05:20] <dyn-afk> xnest will be added as a dependency
[05:20] <Floid> Xephyr would work just fine if I felt like setting it up, of course.
[05:20] <mnp> Ng: why not?
[05:20] <dyn-afk> too bad mnp :(
[05:20] <dyn-afk> lol @ Floid
[05:20] <narfmaster> airzer0, you have an actual problem there?
[05:21] <Floid> ...and having installed it, I don't see Sabayon pulling in xnest as a dep.
[05:21] <skavenge> mnp: dapper is 'frozen'
[05:21] <mnp> dyn-afk: the patches and compiling are over my head, and im afraid of hoosing my system
[05:21] <dyn-afk> it always comes down to feeling like doing something :P
[05:21] <Ng> mnp: the policy is generally not to release newer versions of packages once a stable release is out. edgy (the current development version) will be using 2.6.17
[05:21] <srikanth> can any one tell when an interrupt(Error)occours in python interprettor is it nessasay to type total program.....?(How to continuee from that step..?)
[05:21] <Floid> You're afraid of making it Indianan?
[05:21] <airzer0> goosh i just installed it all by myself xp i sure did
[05:21] <Ng> narfmaster: airzer0 is either a troll or a bot, but worth ignoring/kicking/banning either way
[05:22] <dyn-afk> Floid: I installed sabayon using synaptics and it said xnest was a dependency and installed it
[05:22] <airzer0> lol
[05:22] <dyn-afk> are you using something like apt-get install ?
[05:22] <odat> anyone know how to get openoffice to see java?
[05:22] <Floid> Therefore Xephyr also satisfies the dependency.  Next?
[05:22] <narfmaster> would one of the ops please give airzer0 a strong warning?
[05:22] <Floid> zomg there are people on IRC
[05:22] <srikanth> gnomefreak,  when an interrupt(Error)occours in python interprettor is it nessasay to type total program.....?(How to continuee from that step..?)..?
[05:22] <airzer0> airzer0 plz behave
[05:22] <narfmaster> !ops
[05:22] <ubotu> Help! lilo, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:22] <Hobbsee> narfmaster: ?
[05:22] <Seveas> narfmaster, ?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> narfmaster: ?
[05:23] <airzer0> lol
[05:23] <MikeTheC> Well, this is easy... :)
[05:23] <odat> anyone know how to get openoffice to see java?
[05:23] <airzer0> it was me
[05:23] <lun4_leahan> hi
[05:23] <narfmaster> thank you
[05:23] <MikeTheC> thanks for the info on EasyUbuntu.
[05:23] <gnomefreak> Seveas: this isnt the first time
[05:23] <dyn-afk> stupid question: what's the targeted release date/month for edgy eft ?
[05:23] <Seveas> gnomefreak, then why not ban as well? 
[05:23] <Ng> dyn-afk: october
[05:23] <skavenge> !schedule
[05:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:23] <dyn-afk> ah
[05:24] <gnomefreak> works for me ;)
[05:24] <Hobbsee> airzer0: behave, or go away.
[05:24] <dyn-afk> learned something new :P
[05:24] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:24] <odat> anyone know how to get openoffice to see java?
[05:24] <Seveas> Hobbsee, he 'chose' the latter
[05:24] <Hobbsee> Seveas: well, yeah
[05:24] <gnomefreak> ah oh well
[05:25] <dyn-afk> hmmz, I hope gpilot synchronisation with a palm usb device will be fixed in dapper though, else I'll wait for edgy eft
[05:25] <Seveas> odat, 1) Stop repeating 2) I told you yesterday: update-java-alternatives
[05:25] <skavenge> he insults ppl trying to help anyway why bother
[05:25] <MikeTheC> BTW, is it me or does this version of X-Chat seem less feature-filled than the ones I've used under Fedora and in Mac OS X?
[05:26] <dyn-afk> this one is versi 2.6.1
[05:26] <Seveas> MikeTheC, are you using xchat-gnome perhaps?
[05:26] <dyn-afk> the latest from xchat.org is 2.6.6
[05:26] <skavenge> MikeTheC: you might be use xchat-gnome instead of standard xchat
[05:26] <dyn-afk> so it could be less featurepacked
[05:26] <odat> Seveas, that is not what i'm asking  I am trying to get OpenOffice to see and or find java within the program
[05:26] <Toma-> anyone know how to get a bluetooth/OBEX serial internet connection up?
[05:26] <MikeTheC> skavenge:  yup.
[05:26] <dr_willis> MikeTheC, gnome-xchat is annoying, the normal xchat is ok.. and yes. they have been streamlining it  lately. :(
[05:26] <MikeTheC> skavenge:  just checked.
[05:26] <neutrinomass> is there any way in ratpoison to move the mouse about ?
[05:26] <srikanth> gnomefreak,  when an interrupt(Error)occours in python interprettor is it nessasay to type total program.....?(How to continuee from that step..?)..?
[05:26] <Seveas> MikeTheC, you may want to use plain xchat instead
[05:26] <dyn-afk> odat why not look for the jre for yourself?
[05:27] <skavenge> MikeTheC: the gnome version is supposed to be 'idiot-proof', just go to add remove programs and install the standard xchat if you like
[05:27] <dyn-afk> you can do that in the OOo options, just browse for the jre
[05:27] <dr_willis> neutrinomass,  you mean witout the normal mouse? or somthing?
[05:27] <MikeTheC> skavenge / Seveas: how do I get it? Is it installed or do I need to go install it?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> srikanth: why not just ask the channel (i havent played with python for a while
[05:27] <dyn-afk> xchat is in the universe/multiverse repository if I'm right
[05:27] <gnomefreak> dyn-afk: universe
[05:27] <skavenge> MikeTheC: add/remove programs on the applications page, type in 'xchat' for the search
[05:27] <neutrinomass> dr_willis : Yeah. This is a really old computer with no mouse ...
[05:27] <MikeTheC> Hmm... Is it one of those either/or type deals?
[05:28] <srikanth> gnomefreak, ok
[05:28] <Seveas> MikeTheC, you can find it in applications-> add/remove
[05:28] <odat> dyn-afk, i am and i know it in usr/lib/java but openoffice claims its not valid
[05:28] <Seveas> and you can install both at the same time
[05:28] <Seveas> lol
[05:28] <dr_willis> neutrinomass,  there used to be some progs that let ya use the numpad.and some other ways  Not sure if that was window manager specific.
[05:28] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:28] <Seveas> an ircop is paying attention in here 
[05:28] <gnomefreak> i see
[05:28] <dyn-afk> what jre are you using odat ?
[05:28] <skavenge> you still need universe enabled to use add/remove programs though correct?
[05:29] <dyn-afk> no
[05:29] <Seveas> skavenge, add/remove can do that by itself
[05:29] <dyn-afk> universe is for extra software
[05:29] <Kumo> where is the users list? I have just installed xchat in ubuntu but it seems a little bit different
[05:29] <skavenge> ah thats cool then
[05:29] <neutrinomass> dr_willis : It can be done with the accessibility features of KDE/Gnome, but I don't know about ratpoison. But you can't run KDE here...
[05:29] <MikeTheC> BTW, it's amazing how much snappier Ubuntu is than Tiger... ;)
[05:29] <dyn-afk> userlist is on your right Kumo
[05:29] <michaels> I've installed the Democracy Player on Ubuntu Dapper. How do I run it? ><
[05:29] <odat> dyn-afk, sun's java
[05:29] <dyn-afk> if you installed the real xchat and not gnome-xchat
[05:29] <dyn-afk> what version odat ?
[05:30] <dr_willis> neutrinomass,  some desktop envs' include the feature.. or theres some programs that can do it with the numpad. (I think) i used one ages ago..
[05:30] <gnomefreak> michaels: it creates a menu entry
[05:30] <dyn-afk> I'm using 1.5_06
[05:30] <neutrinomass> oh well, I'll try googling (it's not that trivial without a mouse)
[05:30] <Kumo> dyn-afk: yeah, it used to be there but right now I cannot see and I cannot find where to enable it
[05:30] <MikeTheC> Ok, I've done the search in Add/Remove, but all it shows is XChat-GNOME.
[05:30] <michaels> gnomefreak: sure doesn't seem to have done here...
[05:30] <dyn-afk> and I installed it with synaptics if I remember it correctly
[05:30] <gnomefreak> michaels: restart your gnome-panel it will be there
[05:30] <odat> dyn-afk, 1.506
[05:30] <michaels> oh
[05:30] <dyn-afk> Kumo there is a small arrow on the top right of xchat
[05:30] <dr_willis> neutrinomass,  use lynx :)  or learn the keyboard shortcuts for firefox. heh
[05:31] <dyn-afk> click on that and the userlist will reappear
[05:31] <michaels> gnomefreak: how do I restart it? ><
[05:31] <gnomefreak> michaels: you can also run it from Term by typeing democracyplayer
[05:31] <dyn-afk> 1.506 is what I use
[05:31] <gnomefreak> michaels: killall gnome-panel
[05:31] <dyn-afk> hmmz, strange
[05:31] <Kumo> dyn-afk: no, nothing
[05:31] <skavenge> MikeTheC: click on unsupported applications under the search section
[05:31] <dyn-afk> MikeTheC you need to enable the options "unsupported" and "commercial" software
[05:32] <neutrinomass> dr_willis: 1. Lynx gets on one's nerves after a few hours. The main problem with any browser without the mouse is that if you are on a page with 100 links, you have to tab like crazy to get where you want (and you might pass the link by accident, which means more tabs)
[05:32] <dyn-afk> lynx is nice :P
[05:32] <dr_willis> neutrinomass,  yep. :)  thats an annoyanvce.
[05:32] <gdb> neutrinomass: shift-tab to back up
[05:33] <michaels> there we go, thanks gnomefreak
[05:33] <skavenge> i wish xroach still worked, used to love that dumb desktop eyecandy, installs fine but cant get it to work lol
[05:34] <dr_willis> skavenge,  with gnome and kde - you have to set them to allow  programs to be ran on the desktop.
[05:34] <frogzoo> dyn-afk: also links2 & elinks
[05:34] <neutrinomass> gdb: Arghhh! I wish I knew that earlier :(  Thanks a LOT !
[05:34] <Ng> skavenge: things like that tend to write the root window, but nautilus is putting your desktop above that window
[05:34] <dr_willis> skavenge,  If thats what you mean by 'not working' :)
[05:34] <Ng> skavenge: so it is working, you just can't see it
[05:34] <gdb> neutrinomass: :-D
[05:34] <MikeTheC> 'Nother stupid question
[05:34] <neutrinomass> dyn-afk : elinks is more usable IMVHO :)
[05:35] <MikeTheC> Where is the option to put drive icons and such on my desktop?
[05:35] <skavenge> Ng / dr_willis ; ah okay last time i tried i wasnt using such a robust WM, can I set it somehow so it will show?
[05:35] <Ng> skavenge: afaik, no
[05:35] <Floid> Aha, all I *really* wanted was gdmflexiserver -n
[05:35] <MikeTheC> I've looked through all the Preferences and Administration menu items and can't find it anywhere.
[05:35] <Floid> Which spawns xnest, or I could edit gdm.conf to use Xephyr, I guess.
[05:35] <skavenge> Ng: ah okay
[05:35] <Floid> With gdm.
[05:35] <narfmaster> MikeTheC, Apps/Nautilus/Desktop in gconf-editor
[05:36] <Ng> MikeTheC: run gconf-editor then it's /apps/nautilus/desktop/
[05:36] <neutrinomass> gdb: Umm... I feel so stupid. It's even DRAWN on the tab key. (which solves my other question "why such a confusing symbol for tab" ) :|
[05:36] <Ng> MikeTheC: and there are various options in there for showing things on the desktop
[05:36] <narfmaster> that one really should have a UI in preferences
[05:36] <mari> ola
[05:36] <gdb> neutrinomass: hehehe
[05:36] <mari> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:36] <DoctorMO> english?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> mari: join #ubuntu-es for spanish
[05:37] <neenaoffline> help
[05:37] <MikeTheC> Wonder why that thing (or a much friendlier version thereof) isn't on either the Prefs or Admin submenus...
[05:37] <neenaoffline> apt-get does not work !!
[05:37] <gnomefreak> neenaoffline: cant unless you give us a reason
[05:37] <neenaoffline> neenaoffline@user:~/Downloads/s$ sudo apt-get install wine
[05:37] <neenaoffline> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:37] <neenaoffline> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:38] <neenaoffline> neenaoffline@user:~/Downloads/s$ sudo apt-get clean
[05:38] <neenaoffline> neenaoffline@user:~/Downloads/s$ sudo apt-get install wine
[05:38] <Kumo> dyn-afk:fixed, I change some options in the user list, reopen xchat a couple of times and now I can see the users list, I don't know what happened, thanks anyway
[05:38] <neenaoffline> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:38] <skavenge> Ng: do all window managers used that 'above the root window' setting for the desktop or is that just gnome/kde? any idea?
[05:38] <neenaoffline> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:38] <gnomefreak> neenaoffline: stop pasting
[05:38] <neenaoffline> neenaoffline@user:~/Downloads/s$
[05:38] <neenaoffline> whoops
[05:38] <frogzoo> neenaoffline: sppaaaaammmm!!! :p
[05:38] <neenaoffline> sorry :(
[05:38] <skavenge> neenaoffline: dont paste in here!
[05:38] <MikeTheC> Thanks again, guys.
[05:38] <MikeTheC> Such an improvement.
[05:38] <gnomefreak> neenaoffline: close synaptic
[05:38] <gnomefreak> neenaoffline: you have more than one apt running
[05:39] <skavenge> neenaoffline: and your running synaptic and apt-get at the same time thats your error
[05:39] <GTX> How do I install flash ?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> GTX: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:39] <Ng> skavenge: anything that implements the correct standards will put the nautilus/kde desktop windows where they ask, which is directly above the root window. I imagine you could override that in crazy wm's like enlightenment, or you could tell nautilus not to draw a desktop
[05:39] <skavenge> GTX: install flashplugin-nonfree on dapper
[05:39] <dr_willis> !flash
[05:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:39] <GTX> ta
[05:39] <MikeTheC> Oh, one other thing. The only way I can perform certain tasks (like ejecting volumes, for instance) is by right-clicking. However, that means I *have* to use an external mouse on my notebook. Is there a way to enable a work-around for my built-in touchpad?
[05:39] <horus> ok, im still stuck at Configuring power management at installation
[05:39] <Toma-> MikeTheC: you can unlock the cdrom drive, so your eject button works?
[05:40] <horus> i tried acpi=off but still the same
[05:40] <skavenge> Ng: ah okay so thats a pretty integrated thing, no use messing with it for some eyecandy
[05:40] <fourat> helllo
[05:40] <fourat> all
[05:40] <horus> anyone?
[05:40] <narfmaster> MikeTheC, put a launcher on the panel that does the command "eject -r"
[05:40] <MikeTheC> Toma: Huh?
[05:40] <Toma-> MikeTheC: you have an eject button on your cdrom drive right?
[05:40] <GTX> gnomefreak, I dont have that package
[05:40] <MikeTheC> No.
[05:40] <gnomefreak> GTX: enalbe multiverse repos than
[05:40] <Toma-> MikeTheC: ok.
[05:40] <gnomefreak> enable even
[05:41] <narfmaster> MikeTheC, a custom launcher that is :)
[05:41] <MikeTheC> Toma-: It's a slot-loading type on my PB.
[05:41] <MikeTheC> hang on a sec.
[05:41] <MikeTheC> gonna open the *real* version of XChat. BRB.
[05:42] <narfmaster> that was a weird ping
[05:42] <GTX> gnomefreak, How?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> !repos > GTX
[05:42] <gnomefreak> read your pm GTX
[05:43] <horus> anyone who can help me with Ubuntu installation please PM me, im trying to do it now but it freezes when it gets to Configuring power management. Please help
[05:43] <skavenge> i wish turning off tap on an Alps touchpad wasn't rocket science, what a pain
[05:43] <GTX> gnomefreak, I just dont know the url for it
[05:43] <GTX> The multiverse thing
[05:43] <frogzoo> michaels: what's wrong with 'eject' ?
[05:43] <Toma-> MikeTheC: open System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts and look for "Eject"
[05:43] <Floid> Speaking of stupid stuff, has anyone else noticed that Synaptic requires you to mouse off a button and back onto it to actually, y'know, be able to click?
[05:43] <gnomefreak> GTX: read your pm it will explain it
[05:43] <michaels> huh frogzoo?
[05:43] <Floid> Is that a GTK2 retardation or what?
[05:44] <frogzoo> eject
[05:44] <skavenge> Floid: that happened to me only with the .26-686 kernel so i switched back
[05:44] <MikeTheC> I'm baaaaaaack!
[05:44] <narfmaster> Floid, i think that can be changed in the preferences
[05:44] <MikeTheC> frogzoo: Yeah. I guess I could use that. But would it also work for USB removable media as well, do you think?
[05:44] <frogzoo> michaels: soz, MikeTheC
[05:44] <narfmaster> MikeTheC, you can also use a keyboard shortcut
[05:44] <skavenge> that was happening with every window when i switched kernels couldnt stand it
[05:45] <frogzoo> MikeTheC: eject takes a mount point argument, so yes
[05:45] <skavenge> maybe celeron M's are supposed to use the 386 kernel because the 686 just killed this laptop, everything crawled, had those gtk/window problems as well
[05:46] <hlabs> does any one know how i can turn my ubunutu pc into a kiosk
[05:46] <MikeTheC> BTW, how do you get the channel user list in XChat? I found the "user list buttons" option, but that didn't seem to do anything.
[05:46] <horus> no one willing to help?
[05:46] <horus> man, u guys are lame
[05:46] <narfmaster> 686 should work with Celerons, but that's just what the package description says
[05:46] <diana> OLA
[05:47] <goatmale> can some one help me with chmod
[05:47] <goatmale> !chmod
[05:47] <narfmaster> horus, just for that i certain won't help you
[05:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about chmod - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:47] <gnomefreak> horus: your attitude will not get you helped any faster
[05:47] <skavenge> horus: no one knows your answer why dont you spend some time looking it up, GOOGLE
[05:47] <hlabs> i need to setup a kiosk please help
[05:47] <goatmale> what is chmod?
[05:47] <diana> pues a la mierda tos
[05:48] <fourat> this is freezing : arecord -d 5 test.wav
[05:48] <fourat> i can hear my microphone
[05:48] <fourat> i can set it as recording device
[05:48] <skavenge> goatmale: changes permissions for files/directories
[05:48] <gnomefreak> !es
[05:48] <MikeTheC> Anyhow, thanks guys. Y'all have helped a bunch!!!
[05:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:48] <fourat> but cant record with it
[05:48] <horus> just for what, when everyone isnt even saying no, they dont know..
[05:48] <skavenge> horus: NO we dont know
[05:48] <narfmaster> horus, for calling us lame
[05:48] <gnomefreak> horus: when someone knows they will help you
[05:48] <skavenge> happy?
[05:48] <horus> ecstatic
[05:48] <fourat> any helper around ?
[05:48] <strongy> hi heer is coming a n00b
[05:48] <frogzoo> horus: it's standard protocol people DON'T answer if they don't know - keeps spam down
[05:48] <MikeTheC> l84, guys
[05:49] <goatmale> hey fourat what do you need?
[05:49] <skavenge> horus: did you even bother looking it up on the WIKI to see if there are instructions particular to that machine/problem?
[05:49] <fourat> goatmale, this is freezing : arecord -d 5 test.wav
[05:49] <fourat> i can hear my microphone
[05:49] <bitviper> help!  I need to reinstall samba on ubuntu.  I uninstalled all samba like packages and manually deleted /etc/init.d/samba and when I reinstall samba and samba-common, I don't get /etc/init.d/samba or /etc/samba back!
[05:49] <fourat>  i can set it as recording device
[05:49] <strongy> can anybody help me with the root pw at Ubuntu
[05:49] <GTX> Ok, I have installed the flash-nonfree thing. But break.com doesnt work s;s
[05:50] <goatmale> fourat I have no idea.
[05:50] <horus> all i find is to turn off acpi, but even with that the problem is still there
[05:50] <Floid> bitviper: Do the purge thing in synaptic, probably.
[05:50] <gnomefreak> !root > strongy
[05:50] <goatmale> how do I chmod to 775?
[05:50] <kalosaurusrex> !wifi > kalosaurusrex
[05:50] <bitviper> I'm in server - I don't have synaptic!
[05:50] <gnomefreak> strongy: please read your pm
[05:50] <skavenge> GTX: did you restart firefox? and is it requiring a newer flash than you have installed?
[05:50] <horus> it simply wont go past configuring power management
[05:50] <Floid> Ah.
[05:50] <dr_willis> Bash/Linux  fundamentals. :)
[05:50] <GTX> skavenge, Yes I restarted firefox and I dont have a clue
[05:50] <perrupa> Hey guys, I'm having trouble with unmet samba dependencies when running apt-get upgrade... any advice?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> perrupa: use aptitude
[05:50] <skavenge> GTX: knowing what version of flash the site required would help
[05:51] <skavenge> horus: so try turning off power management in the bios
[05:51] <perrupa> Sorry, I'm not familiar with aptitude
[05:51] <strongy> syr i've installed a linux distribution at the first time
[05:51] <GTX> skavenge, Can you have a look? break.com
[05:51] <goatmale> how do I chmod to 775?
[05:51] <Floid> bitviper: apt-get --purge remove samba, I think.
[05:51] <strongy> so i'm a little bit confused
[05:51] <horus> skavenge: tried that too
[05:51] <Floid> Then reinstall and it should extract the basic configs again.
[05:51] <gnomefreak> perrupa: paste the output of sudo apt-get install samba   to pastebin
[05:51] <Floid> Unless I'm stupid, hm.
[05:52] <skavenge> GTX: what are you trying to run under it? the homepage loads for me
[05:52] <strongy> @ gnomefreak what's a pm?
[05:52] <fourat> !mic
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about mic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:52] <dr_willis> goatmale,  http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uchmod.htm
[05:52] <gnomefreak> strongy: the private message you got from ubotu
[05:52] <GTX> skavenge, click one of the videos on the site
[05:52] <strongy> thanks
[05:52] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:52] <Floid> Anyhow, time for me to pretend to work now.
[05:52] <yggdrasil> fourat what are you looking for ?
[05:53] <fourat> i want to record from my mic
[05:53] <yggdrasil> i see
[05:53] <fourat> i can hear its sound
[05:53] <fourat> but cant record
[05:53] <yggdrasil> what are you using to record ?
[05:53] <fourat> it's set as the recording device
[05:53] <Rasmus89> I am installing UT2004 and I want to eject the disc and put in disc2 but it wont let me eject.. isnt there a force way?
[05:53] <fourat> arecord from console is freezing,
[05:54] <yggdrasil> hmm...
[05:54] <skavenge> GTX: doesnt work for me either .. flash is like two versions back compared to windows etc so it may be that you need a newer version (which linux doesnt have right now)
[05:54] <dr_willis> Rasmus89,  id copy all the files from all the disks to a Dir first.. then start the isntaller from that dir.
[05:54] <wildman> Rasmus89, eject CD_ROM_DEVICE ?
[05:54] <yggdrasil> fourat you think its hardware or software problem ?
[05:54] <GTX> ok skavenge
[05:54] <Rasmus89> it returns rror
[05:54] <horus> so much for support, bye guys
[05:54] <perrupa> gnomefreak: Ok I think I've done that
[05:55] <fourat> yggdrasil, dont think is a hard prob, if it was, i cant hear any sound
[05:55] <yggdrasil> hmm yea
[05:55] <bitviper> ->floid: It worked!
[05:55] <bitviper> thanks floid!
[05:55] <yggdrasil> what kind of stuff are you recording ? just curious.
[05:55] <wildman> Rasmus89, /sbin/fuser CD_ROM_DEVICE to find out which process is 'stalling' the CD
[05:55] <gnomefreak> perrupa: can i have the link it gave you after clicking send
[05:55] <Rasmus89> wildman: I am sure its the UT2004 installation
[05:55] <perrupa> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18786
[05:55] <wildman> Rasmus89, then you can kill that process... except it's the installer itself... :P
[05:56] <wildman> Rasmus89, if so, then, kill it, and do as dr_willis says?
[05:56] <neenaoffline> what do I do ??
[05:56] <frogzoo> Rasmus89: if you're running the installer off the cd....
[05:56] <skavenge> GTX: if you HAVE to have it i've heard of people running IE under wine with up-to-date flash but i've never messed with that
[05:56] <dr_willis> Rasmus89,  you using WINE/Cedega to install this? or is it a native linux port?
[05:57] <frogzoo> skavenge: does ie work with recent wine?
[05:57] <skavenge> ut2004 is mative, that SHOULD be what he's doing
[05:57] <GTX> na rather not touch anything to do with windows skavenge :p
[05:57] <gnomefreak> perrupa: type sudo apt-get -f install
[05:57] <wildman> GTX, skavenge: vmplayer with the tricks to turn it almost in vmware workstation might do too...
[05:57] <Naits> Anyone here that can help me get NTFS to work in Ubuntu 6.06? (Im fairly new to ubuntu)
[05:57] <skavenge> frogzoo: like i said i've never messed with it just overheard people talking about using it
[05:57] <Rasmus89> UT2004 is for WIN / Linux
[05:57] <gnomefreak> perrupa: let me know what it does
[05:57] <Rasmus89> it supports both
[05:57] <dyn-afk> wildman why not use vmware server then?
[05:57] <wildman> GTX, skavenge: running a full copy of Windows, not wine
[05:57] <frogzoo> Naits: read only is pretty straightforward, r/w is complex
[05:57] <wildman> dyn-afk, didn't play with server, but I'm sure it will work too :)
[05:57] <perrupa> gnomefreak: I've done that and had no luck
[05:57] <dyn-afk> :P
[05:57] <jaakkos> Naits: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[05:57] <frogzoo> skavenge: last I heard, ie is broken for recent wine releases
[05:58] <jaakkos> did you see that?
[05:58] <perrupa> I'll post the results to that bin thingy, one sec
[05:58] <pamir> hi
[05:58] <gnomefreak> perrupa: you didnt use a package name did you?
[05:58] <fourat> yggdrasil, a microphone
[05:58] <skavenge> frogzoo: i dunno if they were using it out of the repos or off winehq.com
[05:58] <dyn-afk> I'm thinking about installing vmware server instead of vmware player
[05:58] <Naits> Ive tried that, but;
[05:58] <Naits> mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[05:58] <pamir> I have problem installing ububun on HP Proliant with SATA HD
[05:58] <yggdrasil> fourat you tring to do music recordings or semething ?
[05:58] <jaakkos> did you do "how to list partition tables"
[05:58] <pamir> can some one help me please?
[05:58] <perrupa> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18787
[05:58] <fourat> yggdrasil, noo :) trying to get skype working
[05:59] <yggdrasil> ahh ok,
[05:59] <yggdrasil> hmm..
[05:59] <yggdrasil> console to alsamixer is a start.
[05:59] <dyn-afk> install skype 1.3 beta fourat :P
[05:59] <fourat> dyn-afk, that's what i did
[05:59] <gnomefreak> perrupa: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:59] <skavenge> i hear the new beta is a must for skype, fixes alot of sound issues
[06:00] <wildman> skavenge, using beta of skype here wrapped on linux32 (x86_64 dapper) w/o any pb at all
[06:00] <dyn-afk> yep skavenge
[06:00] <wildman> skavenge, all worked out of da box
[06:00] <dyn-afk> 1.3 beta uses the alsa system instead of OSS
[06:00] <jaakkos> Naits: being unregistered, i don't think i can receive private messages if you did that :)
[06:00] <skavenge> thats cool, there were alot of problems with the old one
[06:00] <dyn-afk> which is the difference between no audio and audio :)
[06:00] <neenaoffline> what do I do ??neenaoffline@user:~/Downloads/s$ sudo apt-get install wine
[06:00] <neenaoffline> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:00] <wildman> dyn-afk, indeed :)
[06:01] <neenaoffline> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:01] <neenaoffline> neenaoffline@user:~/Downloads/s$ sudo apt-get clean
[06:01] <Naits> Will NTFS write-support be 100% any time soon, or is it still "experimental"?
[06:01] <skavenge> wow what an idiot
[06:01] <Codenut_> I am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop that does not have a harddrive, but ethernet, how do I make sure the image in on the tftp donor harddrive?
[06:01] <gnomefreak> Naits: no
[06:01] <Naits> Jaakkos, Ive not sent any private messages :)
[06:01] <jaakkos> okay
[06:01] <gnomefreak> perrupa: did that command fix it?
[06:01] <Naits> gnomefreak: how come?
[06:01] <pamir> can some one help me please?
[06:01] <NewtoUbuntu> Does any1 here use Wine?
[06:02] <jaakkos> Naits: if you need to transfer files from ext2/3 to ntfs, you can do that from windows
[06:02] <michaels> I installed the Democracy Player and when I run it nothing happens. In the System Monitor it appears for a bit and then disappears.
[06:02] <perrupa> nah, still getting the original error on the update
[06:02] <gnomefreak> Naits: windows isnt releasing info on ntfs
[06:02] <dyn-afk> Naits expect ntfs write support to be experimental for a long while
[06:02] <perrupa> should I try the -f install again
[06:02] <dyn-afk> microsoft does not have any documentation about ntfs
[06:02] <frogzoo> Naits: ntfs will never be 100% unless redmond releases the spec
[06:02] <dyn-afk> however, they are being forced by the EU
[06:02] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey can any1 help me otu with installing applications using Wine?
[06:02] <Rasmus89> how do I mount a folder as s drive?
[06:02] <dyn-afk> it might help, but who knows
[06:02] <skavenge> Naits: write works for alot of people with no problems but saying its 'supported', or '100%', people expect perfection and thats not what it is
[06:03] <Naits> Okey, but Ive read that it may seriously eff up the entire harddrive?
[06:03] <dr_willis> NewtoUbuntu,  wine /path/to/installer.exe    normally. Wine has a lot of web sites/docs/homepage. :)
[06:03] <michaels> gnomefreak, any idea what to do to get Democracy Player to work?
[06:03] <Naits> incase something goes wrong?
[06:03] <skavenge> Naits: thats the worry
[06:03] <skavenge> Naits: if you really want to use write at a minimum i'd backup the ntfs system entirely
[06:03] <frogzoo> NewtoUbuntu: winehq.org & appdb.winehq.org
[06:03] <gnomefreak> michaels: no im working on a bug myself with that
[06:04] <michaels> meh
[06:04] <Naits> skavenge: sounds logical really :)
[06:04] <michaels> well good luck gnomefreak
[06:04] <gnomefreak> ty michaels
[06:04] <NewtoUbuntu> Yes i realize this Dr.Willis however i am to new to do much, see they tell u what to type in but not always where to to type it in
[06:04] <MrFeetio> can someone tell me how to turn off the faded windows in compiz?
[06:04] <skavenge> Naits: it is unfortunetly not everyone is logical then they come in hating us because their windows partitin is destroyed ;/
[06:05] <gnomefreak> MrFeetio: #ubuntu-xgl might be a better pleace to ask
[06:05] <skavenge> partition even
[06:05] <frogzoo> !docs > NewtoUbuntu
[06:05] <MrFeetio> thx
[06:06] <NewtoUbuntu> so i type !docs frogzoo?
[06:06] <frogzoo> NewtoUbuntu: read your pm
[06:06] <NewtoUbuntu> ok thanku
[06:06] <gzavier> hello
[06:06] <Naits> skavenge: thats a shame. This is a really nice way to help people :)
[06:07] <skavenge> Naits: when they are receptive and polite yes its great to get some interaction on a problem if you cant figure out a readme
[06:08] <skavenge> ive answered as many questions as ive asked, ubuntu has good support imo
[06:08] <victoria> hola
[06:08] <victoria> escribe en espaol
[06:08] <Naits> can files be moved to a windows-computer with samba?
[06:08] <narfmaster> !es
[06:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:08] <wildman> victoria, hola, "/join #ubuntu-es"
[06:09] <Crembo> does anyone know how I can play non-flashvideo streaming movies (like those in, say, gamespot)?
[06:09] <victoria> hola
[06:09] <victoria> estas ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[06:09] <victoria> hola
[06:09] <HhyperR> who say me, does default ubuntu's kernel have suspend2 patch?
[06:09] <sri_> how to open .rar format in linux (it is not openning with archive manager)..
[06:09] <skavenge> HhyperR: just normal suspend afaik, not 2
[06:10] <narfmaster> sri_, you need rar or unrar installed
[06:10] <perrupa> whoa, Xchat died on me there
[06:10] <skavenge> sri_: sudo apt-get install rar
[06:10] <Tsubasachan> I was never given the root password during install....
[06:10] <perrupa> good ol gaim
[06:10] <victoria> hola
[06:10] <narfmaster> !sudo
[06:10] <sri_> narfmaster, skavenge thank u
[06:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:10] <Tsubasachan> thx
[06:10] <Tsubasachan> ^_^
[06:10] <skavenge> Tsubasachan: its disabled for security, normal user using sudo with username passwd is what is used for superuser priviliges
[06:10] <victoria> hola estas hayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[06:10] <Tsubasachan> i need to set permissions to access my ntfs drive
[06:11] <HhyperR> ok, then kernel compilation in ubuntu is different to other distros?
[06:11] <skavenge> Tsubasachan: so you 'sudo <command>', then typed in your user passwd
[06:11] <narfmaster> victoria, #ubuntu-es por favor
[06:11] <sethk> Tsubasachan, root is _not_ "disabled"
[06:11] <wildman> victoria, si no te uns a #ubuntu-es: "/join #ubuntu-es" te van a hechar...
[06:11] <perrupa> gnomefreak: Sorry, you still there?
[06:11] <ballpointcarrot> Crembo: you can either use vlc or mplayer.  both have browser plugins.
[06:11] <victoria> v
[06:11] <sethk> several of the install options prompt you for a root password
[06:11] <sethk> some do not
[06:11] <sethk> the root password can be set
[06:11] <perrupa> gnomefreak: It didn't fix the issue
[06:11] <skavenge> none of the install options ask you for root
[06:11] <sethk> the root account is in no way "disabled"
[06:12] <sethk> skavenge, nonsense.  expert does.
[06:12] <skavenge> but yes you can set it if you want to circumvent the ubuntu security
[06:12] <caonex> what the package  or server that configures the clock?
[06:12] <Crembo> ballpointcarrot: I installed totem-gstreamer-firefox. it showed up in the firefox window, but nothing played. I suspect gamespot use wmv9 streaming format. is there anything in linux that can even use that?
[06:12] <sri_> skavenge, ya i installed it but when i click on it then it is giving a message that"Encrypted file:  CRC failed in /home/sri/Desktop/sw3fes.part1.rar (password incorrect ?)
[06:12] <rambo3> lsusb
[06:12] <skavenge> sethk: standard install then
[06:12] <caonex> i would like to do dpkg-reconfigure
[06:12] <sethk> skavenge, some options set it during install, others do not.
[06:12] <skavenge> its not going to ask you on a desktop install
[06:12] <sethk> the system won't run without a root account.  ps will show you all the processes run by root
[06:12] <skavenge> no one said root was disabled
[06:13] <sethk> skavenge, I didn't say it would on a the default install.
[06:13] <narfmaster> root password is disabled, sethk
[06:13] <skavenge> the passwd is, not the account
[06:13] <sethk> Tsubasachan: its disabled for security, normal user using sudo with username passwd is what is used for superuser priviliges
[06:13] <skavenge> yeah the PASSWORD
[06:13] <skavenge> jesus
[06:13] <sethk> a password cannot be disabled.
[06:13] <skavenge> alright well get into symantics then jerk
[06:13] <ballpointcarrot> Crembo: I'm not sure if wmv9 is supported by w32codecs.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats might help you.
[06:13] <skavenge> its 'not set'
[06:13] <skavenge> happy?
[06:14] <wsjunior> is there any command that show me the type of my memory card? i mean if it is ddr and everything..
[06:14] <sethk> skavenge, I'm happy with correct answers, and unhappy with incorrect ones, yes
[06:14] <sri_> skavenge, ya where the password to be typed....I have that password
[06:14] <caonex> I use root in my ubuntu
[06:14] <narfmaster> wsjunior, i don't think so
[06:14] <bigfoot1> does having 2 desktops add a lot of memory weight?
[06:14] <sri_> sethk, where the password to be typed ......i have the password
[06:14] <caonex> I did sudo su -
[06:14] <skavenge> sethk: bah, he got the point im not going to wax intellectual over the subject
[06:15] <bigfoot1> sorry, i mean workspace
[06:15] <sethk> sri_, su, or log in as root
[06:15] <caonex> then i changed password
[06:15] <sri_> sethk, then..
[06:15] <sethk> sri_, then what?  If you want to log in as root for some reason, you can.  It is usually better not to.
[06:16] <ballpointcarrot> bigfoot1: not much that i've noticed.  I mostly run with 4 virtual desktops.
[06:16] <narfmaster> bigfoot1, i doubt the number of workspaces/desktops does anything to the memory usage
[06:16] <sri_> sethk, that is not my problem,,,
[06:16] <sri_> sethk, my problem is how to open the .rar formats..?
[06:17] <narfmaster> sri_, if you install rar you can use file-roller to open rar files
[06:17] <sethk> sri_, the apple archive format?
[06:17] <bigfoot1> ok thanks
[06:17] <Doenerporno> Hey guys, how can I save the password for my standard ftp server in gftp?
[06:17] <sri_> sethk, ya
[06:18] <Fou> lut
[06:18] <caonex> I have a problem with my ubuntu, the clock is set to UTC and i would like to do dpkg-reconfigure of whatever package is in charge of keeping time in UTC or LOCAL, any ideas?
[06:18] <sethk> sri_, narfmaster suggested that you use file-roller to extract
[06:18] <wsjunior> is there any command that show me the type of my memory card? if it is ddr and which slot it is using...
[06:19] <sethk> wsjunior, you can do this:   cat /sys/class/mem/kmem/dev
[06:20] <sethk> wsjunior, in kde you have kinfocenter.  gnome as a similar program; I don't remember the name
[06:21] <skavenge> it wouldnt be 'kmem' in gnome either to cat
[06:21] <sethk> skavenge, k there is kernel, not kde
[06:21] <beer> hello
[06:21] <skavenge> well i dont have it
[06:21] <masticore> is there a backup program in ubuntu ?
[06:22] <yggdrasil> is there a console based emule client ?
[06:22] <jrib> Masticore: there are a few, 'sbackup' is a nice one
[06:23] <afalamillos> gg
[06:23] <Masticore> jrib: okey
[06:23] <bst> hiho, i would need some help, regarding fglrx+xserver-xorg+compiz/xgl, dri support worked before changing the default display to 1:0 for the compiz/xgl without any probs, but after this change fglrxinfo and any other tools are complaining that they can't connect to display 0:0, but X is starting and running on display 1:0 with "fglrx" in the device section
[06:23] <afalamillos> alguna xica wp x ay
[06:23] <labreche> Hy,
[06:23] <skavenge> bst: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:24] <mattnash> Hi folks, my new dapper install has suddenly stopped using PHP correctly -- when I try to open phpmyadmin, firefox prompts me to download a file of type application/x-httpd-php.  It was working fine last week.
[06:24] <labreche> does anyone know where to get doc about quota-axxt package?
[06:24] <labreche> quota-acct package?
[06:24] <afalamillos> po mhoin
[06:24] <mattnash> I uninstalled and reinstalled php with no luck
[06:24] <afalamillos> mimnisoejjepd
[06:24] <bst> skavenge, some more description would be helpful pls :)
[06:25] <skavenge> bst: thats where your going to get your answer if any
[06:25] <bst> oh you mean the chan
[06:25] <skavenge> bst: thats the xgl\compiz specialty channel
[06:25] <Rasmus89> how do I bind a folder so it looks like a cdrom drive?
[06:25] <bst> is misunderstood :)
[06:25] <bst> i
[06:25] <bst> k thx
[06:25] <skavenge> np
[06:25] <Crembo> ballpointcarrot: thanks for sending me to w32codecs, but it doesn't specify exact what these plugins work with (gstreamer/xine/specific player?)
[06:26] <narfmaster> Rasmus89, in Wine?
[06:26] <skavenge> Crembo: should work for almost all
[06:26] <caonex> My ubuntu has a conflict between utc and local, i have changed the time in time-admin and selected local but after rebooting sometimes shows UTC time while local is marked, any ideas?
[06:26] <Codenut_> I can deal with a "tarball" .gz file with dpkg? right
[06:26] <Rasmus89> in ubuntus
[06:26] <Rasmus89> just generally
[06:26] <ballpointcarrot> Crembo: I think that it sits in common space for each.
[06:26] <sethk> Codenut_, no
[06:26] <skavenge> Codenut_: no, it needs to be unarchived with archive manager, if its in tar.gz it may be source
[06:27] <yggdrasil> how can i flush my dns resolv.conf ?
[06:27] <narfmaster> Rasmus89, not sure - maybe you could write out an ISO file in Nautilus CD burner
[06:27] <Codenut_> it is source for the ax25 ham radio apps
[06:27] <skavenge> Codenut_: it needs to be unarchived and compiled then, dpkg will not help
[06:27] <Codenut_> OK thanks gang
[06:28] <Bonez56> hi are there any alternatives to Tovid that are GUI based? Something that will re-encode AVI's and burn them to DVD?
[06:28] <Awesome-o2000> Bonez56, I remember I used to use acidrip in linux
[06:28] <SAM_theman> How come I can't play .avi files in xine
[06:29] <Bonez56> Awesome-o2000: thanks ill check it out
[06:29] <SAM_theman> this is what i get
[06:29] <SAM_theman> http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotxo0.png
[06:29] <bigfoot1> how do i add a new user to my computer? I want to give her full sudo access, just as powerful as a main person
[06:29] <bigfoot1> iow, i want to give her full admin rights.
[06:29] <bony>  i am trying to install debian testing from dvd. it says "no common cd-rom drive was detected". and tries to load the modules from floppy. this is a dell ispiron 6000 laptop
[06:29] <sethk> bigfoot1, from the command line, useradd
[06:29] <skavenge> bigfoot1: system -> admin -> users and groups
[06:29] <bigfoot1> because 2 days from now, this computer will be hers
[06:29] <sethk> bigfoot1, then do visudo to give admin privileges
[06:30] <commctrl> bony, this is ubuntu, not debian?
[06:30] <Brokenstein> how do i fsck a drive that is detected by lsusb as bus 001 device 016 but not detected as a special device?
[06:30] <Brokenstein> eg. no /dev/sda
[06:30] <bony> commctrl, i but ubuntu is an varient of debian isn't it?
[06:30] <skavenge> bony: you need to try #debian
[06:31] <narfmaster> SAM_theman, you probably need libxine-extracodecs
[06:31] <skavenge> SAM_theman: do you have w32codecs installed?
[06:31] <sethk> bony, the use similar tools, but they aren't close enough for an answer to this problem to be definitive
[06:31] <bigfoot1> skavenge: what profile do i give her?
[06:31] <sethk> s/the/they/
[06:31] <bigfoot1> administirator?
[06:31] <SAM_theman> I don't know havn't been on ubutnu so long
[06:31] <skavenge> bigfoot1: yes if thats the priviliges she needs
[06:32] <bigfoot1> skane: well, i'm not sure i understand
[06:32] <SAM_theman> narfmaster, it says already istalled
[06:32] <skavenge> bigfoot1: that'd be the same as you, yes
[06:32] <bigfoot1> am i an admin, even if i have to do sudo for some stuff?
[06:32] <bigfoot1> ok
[06:32] <skavenge> bigfoot1: yes thats the same group your in ;)
[06:32] <Rasmus89> which software should I mount .iso's with?
[06:32] <commctrl> admins are allowed to sudo. normal users are not
[06:32] <skavenge> Rasmus89: 'mount'
[06:32] <Brokenstein> how do i fsck a drive that is detected by lsusb as bus 001 device 016 but not detected as /dev/sda
[06:32] <knapper> Help, I'm trying to install gimpshop from source. It complained there is no XML::Parser installed. So I brought up the cpan prompt to install it, but it says "make returned bad status" and will not install.
[06:32] <elf> can any1 help me wit Synaptic Packet Manager
[06:32] <Rasmus89> lol ^^
[06:33] <skavenge> !monutiso
[06:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about monutiso - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:33] <skavenge> !mountiso
[06:33] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:33] <skavenge> Rasmus89: ^^
[06:33] <wildman> elf, just throw your question
[06:33] <elf> i get this error msg wen i start up Synaptic : W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:33] <skavenge> Rasmus89: the sudo mount -o loop line is what you want to use
[06:33] <GoLoGo> Its been about the 5th time ive came on here, and have not found anyone that could help me - i am looking for help with a 7800gt oc nvidia chip card, I installed the drivers with the neccessary packages, but Ubuntu still looks distorted and freezes after 30-2 mins or so, thanks
[06:33] <bigfoot1> skavenge: do i keep the AdvancedTab/Advanced Settings unchanged?
[06:33] <yggdrasil> is there a console based emule client ?
[06:34] <snooplsm> upon installation of a new jre, how do I change ubuntu's settings to point to the new jre
[06:34] <bigfoot1> skavenge: main group: $user.    shell:/bin/bash
[06:34] <skavenge> bigfoot1: should be fine unless you feel you need to change any of it
[06:34] <bigfoot1> i don't know
[06:34] <DrBanzai> How can I tell if I have multiple versions of wine installed?
[06:34] <skavenge> bigfoot1: thats 'default' so it should be okay
[06:34] <bigfoot1> i'm just a newbie selling my computer
[06:34] <gnomefreak> snooplsm: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:34] <bigfoot1> ok
[06:35] <elf> Can any1 help me sort out this problem i get wen i start up Synaptic : W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:36] <bigfoot1> skavenge: her UID is 1001 and mine is 1000. is there any siginifance to the numbers?
[06:36] <bigfoot1> what happens when i delete my accoun?
[06:36] <bigfoot1> t
[06:36] <bigfoot1> will she become 1000?
[06:36] <Ng> bigfoot1: the numbers are just unique and they won't change
[06:36] <bigfoot1> ok
[06:36] <Ng> bigfoot1: you should make sure there is at least one other user with sudo access though, obviously :)
[06:36] <Mez> right I'm off, bye people
[06:36] <skavenge> bigfoot1: its just numbering them, no big deal
[06:36] <Ng> (which means one other user at least in the admin group)
[06:37] <skavenge> bigfoot1: so make sure she's all setup and check her account works before deleting yours ;)
[06:37] <snooplsm> gnomrefreak: mine isn't showing.. I know the location of it, its just not showing in that config
[06:37] <snooplsm> crap
[06:37] <bigfoot1> ok
[06:37] <bigfoot1> i don't want to tell her to run "sudo pppoeconf" to configure her internet service, but i guess I have to.
[06:38] <bigfoot1> yes?
[06:38] <skavenge> that ones beyond me i havent used dialup in years heh
[06:38] <Rasmus89> how do I mount an ISO?
[06:38] <Rasmus89> !iso
[06:38] <skavenge> Rasmus89: i just told you
[06:38] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:39] <skavenge> Rasmus89: first line on that info, just like i said before
[06:39] <DSG-01> somebody from PUERTO RICO ????????
[06:39] <bigfoot1> Ng: how can i confirm via terminal who of the 2 users have sudo access?
[06:39] <nemlah> ok guys
[06:39] <nemlah> i went out and bought a new tv card
[06:39] <Elko> skavenge: often a problem, text scroll by too quickly in this chan ;)
[06:39] <skavenge> bigfoot1: they both will if they have admin access
[06:39] <nemlah> which should be supported
[06:39] <nemlah> but still
[06:39] <nemlah> nada
[06:40] <skavenge> Elko: yeah i know
[06:40] <nemlah> nothing niente
[06:40] <bahadir> hello
[06:40] <Ng> bigfoot1: "groups someusername" and look for "admin"
[06:40] <bigfoot1> skavenge: but is there a way i can confirm?
[06:40] <bigfoot1> Ng: ok
[06:40] <bahadir> I got a problem with port 25 of ubuntu mail server
[06:40] <skavenge> bigfoot1: try and sudo with her account
[06:40] <believer_> http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf
[06:40] <bahadir> It does not allow remote connections
[06:40] <nemlah> anyone here with some tvcard/linux knowledge?
[06:40] <bahadir> but port 110 working just fine
[06:40] <bahadir> what can be the problem ?
[06:40] <bigfoot1> skavenge: to do that, i have to log off my account first, yes?
[06:40] <skavenge> nemlah: some, though mine worked out of the box
[06:40] <Ng> nemlah: ask and find out :)
[06:40] <nemlah> pixelview pro
[06:40] <skavenge> bigfoot1: yes, id be a good idea to login as her and test it anyway
[06:41] <nemlah> replaced a newer hauppauge wintv pci fm
[06:41] <nemlah> a step back
[06:41] <bigfoot1> Ng: ok. i see "admin" in the list of words
[06:41] <nemlah> but hoped that one will work
[06:41] <nemlah> dmesg is full of errors
[06:41] <bigfoot1> ok. i'm logging out off my account now.
[06:41] <yggdrasil> nemlah
[06:41] <GoLoGo> Anyone know the latest stable Nvidia Linux Driver that Ubuntu can handle?
[06:41] <skavenge> lol thats what i have is a hauppage wintv pci
[06:41] <DrBanzai> How can I tell if I have multiple versions of wine installed?
[06:41] <nemlah> and lspci sees it as a memory controller??
[06:41] <yggdrasil> thats just a over the air card ?
[06:41] <usuario> hola
[06:41] <nemlah> yes
[06:41] <yggdrasil> terestrial i guese
[06:41] <nemlah> a simple analog tv card
[06:41] <yggdrasil> dvb-t
[06:42] <usuario> q eres
[06:42] <nemlah> bt878 chipset
[06:42] <nemlah> no dvb
[06:42] <skavenge> my hauppage worked out of the box with the bttv driver
[06:42] <nemlah> simple tv
[06:42] <yggdrasil> mhmm what kinda front end are you running ?
[06:42] <nemlah> tried xawtv
[06:42] <usuario> kjgkjfdjgjklgf
[06:42] <nemlah> Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct
[06:42] <nemlah> v4l2: read: Input/output error
[06:42] <yggdrasil> whats your lsmod saying ?
[06:42] <nemlah> thats what i got
[06:43] <nemlah> what am i looking for in lsmod
[06:43] <yggdrasil> and what distro . your gonna bneed to make sure that that driver module is getting loaded up
[06:43] <yggdrasil> bttv something
[06:43] <nemlah> bttv                  164304  0
[06:43] <nemlah> that?
[06:43] <yggdrasil> hmm..
[06:43] <yggdrasil> maybe
[06:43] <nemlah> distro is dapper
[06:43] <yggdrasil> dapper huh,
[06:43] <skavenge> thats the one my hauppage is running on
[06:44] <NewtoUbuntu> hey guy..im using wine to install warcraft iii on my computer with linux...if any1 can help me private message me plz
[06:44] <nemlah> thats in lspci
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[06:44] <nemlah> 0000:01:08.0 RAM memory: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
[06:44] <nemlah> 0000:01:08.1 Memory controller: Brooktree Corporation: Unknown device 0978 (rev 11)
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[06:44] <skavenge> !ops
[06:44] <ubotu> Help! lilo, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[06:44] <mikechml> uh huh
[06:44] <carmenmape> danadad dkass
[06:45] <NewtoUbuntu> hey guy..im using wine to install warcraft iii on my computer with linux...if any1 can help me private message me plz
[06:45] <mikechml> hah, ouch
[06:45] <Hobbsee> nice.
[06:45] <skavenge> Hobbsee: islam spamming
[06:45] <nemlah> why is the card recognized as ram memory and controller?
[06:45] <Crembo> okay, so I can view web wmv9 streaming files now.. by installing w32codecs. it failed with totem-gstreamer-firefox, but with totem-xine-firefox it works terrific. shame that it doesn't bother displaying any status messages ("connecting.." "buffering..." "error"?)
[06:45] <Hobbsee> skavenge: just got klined :)
[06:45] <skavenge> Hobbsee: thnx heh, that was an odd one
[06:45] <NewtoUbuntu> hey guys..im using wine to install warcraft iii on my computer with linux...if any1 can help me private message me plz( how do i letter the cd rom especially)
[06:46] <Amaranth> Crembo: totem-gstreamer requires a bit of work to make it use w32codecs
[06:46] <yggdrasil> nemlah.
[06:46] <Bonez56> i love ubuntu
[06:46] <skavenge> i think its hardware specific, xine is more work for me honestly
[06:46] <Crembo> Amaranth: is there an absolute word on which library should I use - gstreamer vs. xine? especially since I seem to have installed about 10 different gstreamer-related packages
[06:46] <commctrl> Crembo, did you install gstreamer-0.10-good -bad and -ugly ?
[06:46] <yggdrasil> nemlah did you try #v4l ?
[06:46] <Crembo> commctrl: yep
[06:47] <Amaranth> Crembo: i use gstreamer, it works great once you get it setup
[06:47] <nemlah> no on the same server?
[06:47] <yggdrasil> yea
[06:47] <dEn`> hi guys , how do i use nmap in ubuntu . even if i do a sudo root. it dosent work
[06:47] <nemlah> heading ver
[06:47] <yggdrasil> they might be able to get you going in the right dir.
[06:47] <NewtoUbuntu> hey guys..im using wine to install warcraft iii on my computer with linux...if any1 can help me private message me plz( how do i letter the cd rom especially)
[06:47] <Amaranth> Crembo: it's more of a personal preference at this point (unless you watch DVDs with totem)
[06:47] <commctrl> Crembo, i moved from xine to gstreamer a little while ago and gstreamer seems to work better and allow more codecs. except for certain ones...
[06:47] <skavenge> totem-gstreamer claims it wont work on DVDS
[06:47] <trev__> ok, whenever i click on the update icon in the upper right hand corner i get the update manager for a second and then gnome crashes and logs me out
[06:47] <pike_> dEn`: use nmapfe if you need a gui
[06:47] <Amaranth> skavenge: same as xine it needs libdvdcss2
[06:48] <Crembo> commctrl & Amaranth: okay, so gstreamer is nice if you get it set up. how do I get it set up? I'd like to keep some measure of consistency (although for amarok I had to install extra xine packages)
[06:48] <skavenge> Amaranth: ahh they should change that in the wiki then
[06:48] <dEn`> hmm thanks pike_
[06:48] <DrBanzai> NewtoUbuntu, try running winecfg in a terminal window
[06:48] <Amaranth> skavenge: although it only works if you don't like fast forwarding or rewinding, such things make it restart from the beginning
[06:48] <commctrl> Crembo, if you have totem-gstreamer and all those gstreamer-0.10 packages, it should work fine. of course there are still some movies that won't play because they're not yet handled, but gstreamer handles more than xine (and more elegantly)
[06:49] <NewtoUbuntu> lol..im so bad with ubuntu..care to explain any more?
[06:49] <trev__> can anyone tell me how to run the update manager from the command line?
[06:49] <skavenge> Amaranth: under 'playing restricted dvds' on the wiki it doesnt even list totem-gstreamer as an option heh
[06:49] <commctrl> trev__, either "sudo synaptic" or "sudo apt-get install <package>"
[06:49] <dEn`> but what if i want to use it from the command shell . nmap . it wont let me use root previledged options
[06:49] <trev__> ok
[06:49] <Crembo> commctrl: well, it worked fine for movies, but when I tried playing web-streaming wmv9 through firefox (gamespot's streaming movies), it ran into an error ("Only subtitles detected!")
[06:49] <Amaranth> skavenge: i just said it was crippled :)
[06:49] <DrBanzai> NewtoUbuntu, Click Applications-System Tools-Terminal, then in the new window that pops up, type winecfg
[06:49] <skavenge> Amaranth: yeah that may be why its not listed then
[06:49] <skavenge> *shrug*
[06:50] <NewtoUbuntu> ok sec
[06:50] <Amaranth> commctrl: ah, i don't think extra setup is going to fix that one
[06:50] <Amaranth> err, Crembo
[06:50] <pike_> dEn`: if you sudo -s and then try it doesnt work?
[06:50] <dEn`> let me see
[06:50] <elf> can any1 help me, i keep gettin this msg wen i start Synaptic --> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:50] <commctrl> elf, sudo apt-get update
[06:51] <dEn`> this is what sudo -s gives me /usr/bin/nmap: /usr/bin/nmap: cannot execute binary file
[06:51] <Crembo> can someone help me with a problem that's been driving me absolutely nuts - getting firefox to remember window position and sizing on startup?
[06:51] <commctrl> Crembo, it should.... at least, it does for me
[06:51] <Crembo> on gnome, that is.
[06:52] <commctrl> same
[06:52] <jrib> Crembo: you can use devilspie
[06:52] <jrib> !devilspie > Crembo
[06:52] <Crembo> doesn't do it for me. it remembers to be un-maximized, yes, but it doesn't remember to cover the top 3/4rs of the screen
[06:52] <Crembo> oh boy. rule based hacking.
[06:52] <Brokenstein> is there any kind of app to straighten out detection of usb devices? b/c nobody seems to have the answer to my problem
[06:53] <elf> commctrl, it jus times out
[06:53] <Rasmus89> I am using mount and the iso I am mounting is called "UT2004 [1-6] .ISO" but I cant mount it cause it cant find it.. and I am in the folder.. Its on an USB harddrive
[06:53] <cga> hi , i think i found something wrong (nothing really) on the help.ubuntu. to who should i report it?
[06:54] <skavenge> Rasmus89: are you using full path to tell it where it is?
[06:54] <Crembo> commctrl: okay, so I'll stick totem to gstreamer. can you recall a xine-based player that comes with a firefox plugin?
[06:54] <trappist> Rasmus89: you have to escape the special characters
[06:54] <skavenge> Crembo: xine itself has a firefox plugin
[06:54] <Rasmus89> what are the special tags?
[06:54] <trappist> Rasmus89: UT2004\ \[1-6\] .ISO
[06:54] <skavenge> trappist: good call
[06:55] <Brokenstein> is there a linux distro that supports ordinary usb devices a little better? i dont wanna go back to window$ just to use my own hardware
[06:55] <Crembo> skane: "gxineplugin", would be it?
[06:55] <skavenge> Crembo: well that ones for gxine
[06:55] <trappist> Brokenstein: detecting a device and making it work are different things.  what kind of usb device are you dealing with?
[06:55] <skavenge> Crembo: the actual one is totem-xine-firefox-plugin or something like that
[06:55] <elf> commctrl, i get this msg W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:56] <Crembo> skavenge: you can't install that one without switching the entire totem package over to xine which I want to avoid
[06:56] <Crembo> I just want to get xine in firefox
[06:56] <skavenge> Crembo: the gxine will play in an external player (gxine), not within firefox itself
[06:56] <Brokenstein> trappist: usb harddrive  i/o magic corp 80 gig
[06:56] <NewtoUbuntu> <---Needs help with Warcraft III Reign of Chaos using wine in linux! private msg me if u can help please
[06:56] <caonex> 2.6.17-rc2 is prerelease to 2.6.17 ?
[06:56] <Crembo> skavenge: I could be willing to tolerate that.
[06:56] <caonex> rc? revision copy?
[06:57] <Brokenstein> trappist been google searching since 8pm yesterday
[06:57] <Awesome-o2000> caonex, release candidate
[06:57] <skavenge> Crembo: yeah then go with that first one, will install the gxine program for you as a dependency as well if you dont have it
[06:57] <cga> NewtoUbuntu, try to use Cdega, is the wine for games. http://www.transgaming.com/
[06:57] <Awesome-o2000> cedega blows
[06:57] <bahadir> I got a problem with port 25 of ubuntu mail server
[06:57] <caonex> Awesome-o2000: ok, excellent so it is now stable and released
[06:57] <NewtoUbuntu> ok thanks ill try that
[06:57] <Awesome-o2000> what a friggin waste of money
[06:57] <bahadir> It does not allow remote connections
[06:57] <trappist> Brokenstein: stuff like that, if it doesn't happen automatically, run dmesg after you attach it to see the device it's assigned to, then mount /dev/sd0 (for example) /mnt/point
[06:58] <caonex> Awesome-o2000: should i package it or compile normally?
[06:58] <Awesome-o2000> caonex - doesnt mean it's stable
[06:58] <trappist> Awesome-o2000: do you have a technical criticism of cedega, or are you just trolling?
[06:58] <Awesome-o2000> caonex, I have no idea
[06:58] <caonex> Awesome-o2000: that is what kernel.org says
[06:58] <Bonez56> vcold
[06:58] <Brokenstein> trappist: there no /ev/sd* to mount and im consistently seeing an error -110
[06:58] <Brokenstein> /dev/sd* i mean
[06:59] <caonex> Awesome-o2000: The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is:  	2.6.17.6
[06:59] <trappist> Brokenstein: sudo modprobe usb-storage
[06:59] <Awesome-o2000> trappist, framerates are bad and youll get about 25% of the performance of windows in your games, and you can't use new rendering features like pixel shader 1.4 or it gets even slower
[06:59] <skavenge> Brokenstein: try anything else usb? is the usb controller functioning properly?
[06:59] <cga> Brokenstein, ust pastebin and paste your dmesg | tail there
[06:59] <Awesome-o2000> caonex, whats wrong with the ubuntu kernel?
[06:59] <Supermathie> Brokenstein: is that one of those hard drives that pulls power from USB?
[06:59] <Rasmus89> I cant make the mount work. I say: sudo mount -o loop ./UT2004\ \[1-6\] .ISO
[06:59] <Crembo> skavenge: ixnay on the gxineplugin option. it just crashes with no errors.
[06:59] <ompaul> secleinteer|away, DONT USE AWAY
[06:59] <caonex> Awesome-o2000: does not support the broadcome 43xx in my laptop (wireless nic)
[06:59] <Brokenstein> trappist: my usb wireless wheel mouse and ethernet adapter are working fine
[07:00] <skavenge> Crembo: whats crashing?
[07:00] <sethk> Rasmus89, add -t iso9660
[07:00] <ompaul> secleinteer|away, please do /away it is silent and does not spam the channel
[07:00] <trappist> Awesome-o2000: I play lots of games very happily under cedega.  you'll usually take a performance hit, but that's what you get when you play non-native games.  I'm pretty happy to have a solution, even if it is a bit slower.
[07:00] <skavenge> caonex: yes it does
[07:00] <Brokenstein> i dont know pastebin
[07:00] <Awesome-o2000> caonex, :(( well if youre going to go with kernel.org I recommend using the "the latest stable version of 2.6"
[07:00] <caonex> skavenge: using ndiswrapper?
[07:00] <sethk> Rasmus89, probably a good idea to add -r also, although skipping -r probably just produces a warning.
[07:00] <ayeee> how do i take a screenshot from the terminal.
[07:00] <cga> http://pastebin.com/
[07:00] <skavenge> caonex: the stock kernel uses bcm43xx kernel driver fine, just install firmware, couple commands
[07:00] <NewtoUbuntu> hey guys..im using wine to install warcraft iii on my computer with linux...if any1 can help me private message me plz
[07:00] <Rasmus89> so tell me what to do
[07:00] <Awesome-o2000> trappist, its just a big waste of money. Gamers are better off with a dual partition
[07:01] <trappist> Rasmus89: don't forget to specify a mount point
[07:01] <cga> simple as typing "pastebin" in the URL bar...
[07:01] <rebelfallen> NewtoUbuntu: I doubt wine has Warcraft 3 support
[07:01] <NewtoUbuntu> it does
[07:01] <NewtoUbuntu> it says it does
[07:01] <skavenge> it does
[07:01] <rebelfallen> wow
[07:01] <caonex> skavenge: aha....did not know that, i was using ndiswrapper which does not work anymore
[07:01] <Rasmus89> it does
[07:01] <NewtoUbuntu> but i cant figure out how to do it
[07:01] <trappist> Awesome-o2000: not me.  I'm not gonna run windows, period.  so, for me, cedega is a godsend.
[07:01] <NewtoUbuntu> any1 care to help?
[07:01] <skavenge> caonex: heh yes it does, because im running it
[07:01] <Awesome-o2000> caonex, i only got ndiswrapper to work with the 386 kernel
[07:01] <rebelfallen> When I try to service vncserver restart, it fails every time. How can I force shutdown vncserver?
[07:01] <caonex> skavenge:  you running ndiswrapper and the broadcom kernel driver at once?
[07:02] <caonex> Awesome-o2000: i have x86_64
[07:02] <Awesome-o2000> trappist, yeah - too bad the god it's sent from is cthulu!
[07:02] <trappist> Awesome-o2000: iow, I'm willing to restrict my list of games to those I can run on linux, and cedega makes that list a lot longer.  so, long live cedega.
[07:02] <caonex> skavenge: you have 64bit?
[07:02] <skavenge> caonex: im running the ndis because i knew how to do it and it works, didnt fiddle with the kernel driver but ppl are using it, 32 bit
[07:02] <NewtoUbuntu> hey guys..im using wine to install warcraft iii on my computer with linux...if any1 can help me private message me plz..if u have any help for me..please tell me
[07:02] <cga> NewtoUbuntu, stop flooding
[07:02] <NewtoUbuntu> im trying to get help..
[07:02] <NewtoUbuntu> im not spamming constantly
[07:02] <Awesome-o2000> trappist, im just gonna play native games in linux, im so broken hearted about the loss of americas army, now I dont have ANY realistic combat games w good framerates
[07:03] <caonex> skavenge: it works differently with my 64bit because i have used it before and did the same configuration and i get an error when doing iwconfig
[07:03] <mikechml> NewtoUbuntu: then tell us the problem
[07:03] <skavenge> caonex: 64 bit is another can of worms entirely, depending if your using the 32 or 64 bit driver, etc .. i have no experience with that
[07:03] <Awesome-o2000> NewtoUbuntu, you might do better in wine
[07:03] <NewtoUbuntu> i suck with ubuntu and cant get warcraft iii reign of chaos to work//it says the disk is not in and it will not work unless i configure it some way
[07:03] <caonex> skavenge: dhclient eth0 goes crazy
[07:03] <Crembo> skavenge: the gxine player
[07:03] <caonex> skavenge: have always used 64bit driver
[07:04] <trappist> NewtoUbuntu: by wine he means #wine
[07:04] <caonex> that is why i was after the kernel....because it seems to work
[07:04] <Brokenstein> [4330175.691000]  input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech USB Receiver]  on usb-0000:00:07.2-1
[07:04] <Brokenstein> [4330502.734000]  ACPI: read EC, IB not empty
[07:04] <Brokenstein> [4330502.814000]  ACPI: read EC, OB not full
[07:04] <Brokenstein> [4330502.814000]      ACPI-0412: *** Error: Handler for [EmbeddedControl]  returned AE_TIME
[07:04] <Brokenstein> [4330502.815000]      ACPI-0517: *** Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST]  (Node c5928f60), AE_TIME
[07:04] <skavenge> Crembo: try opening a terminal and running 'gxine', see if the terminal gives you any error
[07:04] <Brokenstein> [4330772.779000]  ACPI: read EC, IB not empty
[07:04] <Brokenstein> [4330772.829000]  ACPI: read EC, OB not full
[07:04] <Brokenstein> [4330772.829000]      ACPI-0412: *** Error: Handler for [EmbeddedControl]  returned AE_TIME
[07:04] <Brokenstein> [4330772.829000]      ACPI-0517: *** Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST]  (Node c5928f60), AE_TIME
[07:04] <cga> Brokenstein, http://pastebin.com/
[07:04] <Crembo> skavenge: oh, gxine works fine on playing regular files, the problem is streaming the movie that totem-xine-plugin worked fine with
[07:05] <skavenge> Crembo: hmm ... id check 'about:plugins' in firefox and make sure it knows the plugin is installed .. you did restart firefox right? (just checking)
[07:05] <ompaul> Brokenstein, please do not paste in the channel u put your data in the pastebin and refer people to the url paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:05] <ompaul> Brokenstein, right now you are muted you will be unmuted in a moment
[07:05] <skavenge> caonex: i dunno about 64 bit like i said but 32 bit kernel module and nidswrapper work
[07:05] <Crembo> skavenge: it recognizes and launches the plugin, the plugin's window goes "connecting to this and this stream..." and then the window dissapears.
[07:06] <caonex> skavenge: ok, i know 64 bit does not...
[07:06] <cga> ompaul, how do you mute a person?
[07:06] <ompaul> cga, by being an op
[07:06] <lilbit> I did a server only install
[07:06] <GTX> Why is ubuntu not smooth with somethings? like when your going through a webpage and scroll down its like it lags... I have graphic drivers installed etc and good graphic card.
[07:06] <ompaul> Seveas, ehh tracebace ;-/
[07:06] <cga> ompaul, that's why io ask you, i'm op ion another channel :P
[07:06] <lilbit> where do I speciy what name server to use?
[07:06] <billybennett> if I set logging in xchat where would the logs go?
[07:06] <lilbit> where do I speciy what dns server to use?
[07:06] <caonex> skavenge: anyways you said current dapper kernel  2.6.15-26 supports broadcom43xx ?
[07:06] <trappist> GTX: that only happens to me with an ati card and a bad X config
[07:07] <GTX> I see trappist
[07:07] <ompaul> cga, I use a script in xchat - it does the hard work just a moment my script did not like me
[07:07] <Doenerporno> hey, please tell me how to format a usb stick
[07:07] <ayeee> lilbit: /etc/resolv.conf
[07:07] <skavenge> caonex: yes it does
[07:07] <lilbit> ayeee, thanks
[07:07] <trappist> GTX: it helps if you set general.smoothScroll to false in about:config
[07:07] <Bonez56> Doenerporno: is it currently mounted?
[07:08] <ayeee> lilbit: yw
[07:08] <Doenerporno> yes
[07:08] <cga> ompaul, k i'm here waiting
[07:08] <Seveas> ompaul, ?
[07:08] <cypher1> any one using notifications in gaim ?
[07:08] <bigjd> this is great...
[07:08] <Bonez56> Doenerporno: what filesystem would you like to make it when you format?
[07:08] <ompaul> Seveas, see the traceback in the ops place
[07:08] <Bonez56> cypher1: yes
[07:08] <Doenerporno> one that xp can write to...
[07:08] <GTX> trappist, It is false.
[07:09] <bigjd> has anyone used mambo server?
[07:09] <Awesome-o2000> Doener?
[07:09] <trappist> GTX: oh :)  well it would be much worse if it wasn't
[07:09] <Awesome-o2000> I dont even want to know, it sounds german
[07:09] <NewtoUbuntu> <---Warcraft III Reign of Chaos help needed using wine. Any suggestions. Msg me.
[07:09] <cypher1> Bonez56, some notifications are supposed to happen when user logins in/out right ?
[07:10] <ompaul> cga /mode -b  %*!*@user - and /mode +b %etc
[07:10] <Awesome-o2000> doener = germany's favorite fast food
[07:10] <Doeneraffe> Bonez56: like fat32?
[07:10] <Bonez56> cypher1: yes mine does that.
[07:10] <prophet_> is it possible to write to my NTSF partition from Ubuntu?
[07:10] <Bonez56> Doeneraffe: yes fat32 would be the best, read write under linux
[07:10] <caonex> skavenge: what about installing the firmware you said?
[07:10] <cga> ompaul, that souns like ban.  is the same for +m?
[07:10] <Seveas> prophet_, only with a lot of trickery and not safe
[07:10] <caonex> skavenge: what do you mean?
[07:10] <Bonez56> Doeneraffe: google will tell you exactly how to go about formatting it
[07:10] <cypher1> Bonez56, i installed gaim guifications but it is not doing it .. am i missing anything ?
[07:10] <NewtoUbuntu> <---Warcraft III Reign of Chaos help needed using wine. Any suggestions. Msg me.
[07:10] <jrib> cypher1: you have to enable it in your plugin preferences
[07:10] <skavenge> caonex: take a look at this if you havent - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper it explains everything
[07:10] <Bonez56> cypher1: yeah there's some options under preferences/plugins
[07:11] <Awesome-o2000> NewtoUbuntu, have you tried #wine?
[07:11] <NewtoUbuntu> yes nobody was there
[07:11] <cypher1> Bonez56, jrib i did that.. if i have not done it wrongly
[07:11] <Ribs> NewtoUbuntu: try #winehq
[07:11] <prophet_> so i need to make it ext3 to write to it i cant put the music i have here onto it ?
[07:11] <NewtoUbuntu> ok ill try that
[07:11] <Bonez56> one strange thing my GAIM won't do is tell you when the other user has closed the conversation window. anyone know how to fix that? can't see any options for it
[07:11] <Brokenstein> ok http://pastein.com/755588
[07:11] <jrib> cypher1: make sure you enable 'guifications', not 'notifications'
[07:11] <Bonez56> cypher1: hmm that should make it work. are you using msn?
[07:11] <jrib> cypher1: (I think that is what you want)
[07:11] <Brokenstein> ok http://pastebin.com/755588
[07:11] <GTX> trappist, http://www.charliecreed.com/xorg.conf - Theres my xorg config. Can you see anything wrong in it?
[07:11] <ompaul> cga, that is how I do it long hand there may be other ways to do it
[07:12] <cypher1> jrib, i have only "message notification" plugin
[07:12] <cypher1> but i do remember installing the guification
[07:12] <ayeee> Anyone used "onTV"? Ive done 'tv_grab_se --configure --output=listing.xm' but i dont get any xml file.
[07:12] <cypher1> Bonez56, no yahoo
[07:12] <cga> ompaul, thanks i appreciate =)
[07:12] <Bonez56> cypher1: hmm not too sure with yahoo. mine works fine on MSN. sorry can't help :(
[07:12] <cypher1> Bonez56, ok no problem
[07:12] <cypher1> Bonez56, thanls
[07:13] <cypher1> Bonez56, sorry thanks
[07:13] <jrib> cypher1: hmm ok, so you actually want the 'message notification' not the popups in the corner of your screen stuff (guifications)?
[07:13] <ompaul> cga, it is useful for getting someones attention
[07:13] <trappist> GTX: looks pretty good.  you might check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for hints as to what may be going wrong
[07:13] <GTX> ok trappist
[07:13] <trappist> GTX: or ~/.xsession-errors
[07:14] <ompaul> Brokenstein, please don't repeat in under 15 minutes thanks ;-)
[07:14] <cga> ompaul, indeed
[07:14] <danf_1979> why is it postfix installed when installing "mysql-server", "mysql-client" and "libmysqlclient12-dev"
[07:14] <Brokenstein> ompaul: ok
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> danf_1979: because its not a dependency of mysql.
[07:14] <ayeee> Anyone used "onTV"? Ive done 'tv_grab_se --configure --output=listing.xm' but i dont get any xml file - whats wrong?
[07:14] <danf_1979> posftix do get installed
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> !repeat > ayeee
[07:14] <GTX> trappist, looks ok. Interesting maybe its XGL. Ill try it without that later. You dont know where to get widgets do you ?
[07:15] <danf_1979> how can I check why this is happening?
[07:15] <ompaul> Seveas, fixed?
[07:15] <trappist> danf_1979: using aptitude or apt-get?
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> danf_1979: didn't install here.
[07:15] <danf_1979> aptitude trappist
[07:15] <danf_1979> could that be it?
[07:15] <trappist> GTX: what widgets?
[07:15] <Seveas> ompaul, yup, 0.4.4 is downloadable now
[07:15] <ompaul> Seveas, on my way
[07:16] <Brokenstein> ompaul: i just put in over 16 hours straight searching for an answer this is drin me nuts
[07:16] <GTX> trappist, CPU widgets, network graphs etc
[07:16] <GTX> on desktop
[07:16] <skavenge> danf_1979: aptitude installs reccomended packages as well by default
[07:16] <ompaul> Seveas,  is it registered on lp?
[07:16] <bigfoot1> my friend's new user account works. even sudo works. yehey
[07:16] <miguelv06> hello
[07:16] <Seveas> ompaul, no
[07:16] <danf_1979> Ok skavenge, thanks for the tip
[07:16] <trappist> danf_1979: aptitude installs recommended packages as well as required ones, and 'mailutils' is a recommended package for mysql-server
[07:16] <trappist> GTX: oh, I use gkrellm for that
[07:16] <cypher1> jrib, no i want the guifications that come in the corner of the screen
[07:16] <danf_1979> thanks guys
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: do you know when gnome 2.2 is going to make it in repos?
[07:16] <bigfoot1> but how come it followed the layout I have?
[07:16] <miguelv06> i have a compaq desktop and im trying to unch linux but every time that i tryed it rebot it self
[07:16] <bigfoot1> my keyboard layout, i mean?
[07:16] <bigfoot1> .
[07:16] <miguelv06> does any one whats going on/
[07:17] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, it never was. Ubuntu started with 2.8 in Sept' 04
[07:17] <miguelv06> lunch*
[07:17] <rambo3> is there a tool i can get speed of writing reading to disk
[07:17] <jrib> cypher1: ok, since you said 'guifications' isn't showing up, can you check that the package was install ok?  What does 'apt-cache policy gaim-guifications' say?
[07:17] <bigfoot1> the new user account followed my (Dvorak) keyboard layout, but it didn't follow my (left-handed) mouse layout. strange
[07:17] <paul_> I have a very unusual problem with WinE, it has set the window size to a few inches tall, and a couple of MM! wide, the window is not resizable, so I can't fin, any ideas?
[07:17] <Bonez56> Does anyoen know how to make GAIM show when the other user has closed the conversation window? (using msn)
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: when then why are some things missing? I can't find some options.
[07:17] <bigfoot1> is there a way i can configure another user's keyboard layout from my account?
[07:17] <trappist> rambo3: hdparm -tT /dev/hdX
[07:18] <GTX> thanks trappist, You have been big help. Just got back to ubuntu after samgsung support my 2 grand laser printer now
[07:18] <miguelv06> does any one know why is my desktop is getting reboted every time that i try to use inux
[07:18] <miguelv06> any kind of linux
[07:18] <trappist> GTX: good luck with that one.  I had a helluva time with my samsung laser printer.
[07:18] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, what's missing?
[07:18] <prophet> aha
[07:18] <skavenge> bigfoot1: your probably going to need to login under the other account unless there is a system-wide mouse setting somewhere
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> miguelv06: sounds like a hardware problem
[07:18] <prophet> i had two xchats open
[07:18] <Bonez56> Does anyoen know how to make GAIM show when the other user has closed the conversation window? (using msn)
[07:18] <cypher1> jrib, it says installed
[07:18] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: just a second while I pull it up.
[07:18] <Touix> hi everybody! could someone help me with SPIP's tecnology?
[07:18] <ompaul> Loaded Chanserv helper 0.4.4 by Seveas <dennis@kaarsemaker.net>
[07:18] <trev__> does anyone know how to enable text to speech in ut2004 in ubuntu?
[07:18] <jrib> cypher1: ok did you close gaim and start it up again?
[07:18] <Seveas> \o/
[07:18] <bigfoot1> Seveas: no, as in i must log in to her account
[07:18] <bigfoot1> ?
[07:19] <miguelv06> how can i know what is missing or what is making it fail?
[07:19] <eshed> can anyone help me with this plz? http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotjl3.png
[07:19] <trappist> trev__: I don't think it's supported in linux
[07:19] <Seveas> bigfoot1, correct
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.2/notes/rnapplications.html -- you see on the bottom there, multimedia keys? I can't find that.
[07:19] <cypher1> yes
[07:19] <trev__> the game is but the patch lets you link to a external TTS program
[07:19] <bigfoot1> How do i remove Menu/System Tools/Menu Editor from the menu?
[07:19] <bigfoot1> it must be from the Breezy days
[07:19] <jrib> cypher1: what version of gaim are you using?
[07:19] <Bonez56> pwor i stink
[07:19] <cypher1> i installed few days back.. i had done reboot many times
[07:19] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, that has been replaced with system->prefs  keyboard shortcuts a loooooooooong time ago
[07:19] <trappist> trev__: oh, then use festival
[07:19] <bigfoot1> It's not on my account, but it is in the newly created account.
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> bigfoot1: use the ... ermm ... menu editor.
[07:20] <cypher1> jrib, 1.5.1cvs
[07:20] <trev__> what file in festivial woukld i need to link to?
[07:20] <bigfoot1> fyrestrtr: seriously
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: but its not the same thing, I can't find half the options there!
[07:20] <Seveas> bigbootay, with the menu editor you remove it from the menu 
[07:20] <prophet> i still cant get CS to work on this, i log in and everything and i try to launch it but gives an error anyone here good with Steam can help me out?
[07:20] <cypher1> jrib, also http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18790
[07:20] <bigfoot1> Seveas: but it's not on my account now. just her account
[07:20] <skavenge> bigfoot1: use the alacarte menu editor to remove the old one (apps, accessories)
[07:20] <bigfoot1> can i remove it from my account, using some other way
[07:20] <bigfoot1> ok
[07:20] <miguelv06> does any one know how to fix r look what is causing a linux problem (harware) which part of the harware is causing the problem?
[07:20] <dEn`> pike_:  i figured it out u need to use the --priveledged flag for nmap
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: ignore me please, I had one of the trees minimized
[07:21] <jrib> cypher1: hmm, Guifications should definitely be showing up under plugin settings for you to enable it
[07:21] <skavenge> bigfoot1: your still going to probably need to do it in her account though
[07:21] <cga_afk> !restricted
[07:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:21] <bigfoot1> skavenge: ok. i'll try it
[07:21] <bigfoot1> thanks
[07:21] <Bonez56> jrib: i just checked my gaim and Guifications doesn't show up either. using beta 2.0 that was intalled by automatix
[07:21] <skavenge> thats probably why its broke
[07:22] <paul_> Wait a minute, i remembered the trick some dude showed me a while ago to fix my Gimp installation. Just delete the .AppName file and reload it and it will create a new'n
[07:22] <bigfoot1> i used to have a Debian Menu. I can hide it in Alacarte, but how do i totally remove it?
[07:22] <paul_> Bye
[07:22] <jrib> Bonez56: well beta 2.0 may not work with the gaim-guifications package in the repositories
[07:22] <bigfoot1>  i forgot how i added it, as it has been a year.
[07:22] <Brokenstein> http://brokenstein.pastebin.com/755603
[07:22] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: you don't, on a fresh install it's there but empty
[07:22] <Bonez56> jrib: yeah that is possible. ill go and see if there is a guifications package i can get from the gaim website for beta 2
[07:22] <miguelv06> does any one know how to fix r look what is causing a linux problem (harware) which part of the harware is causing the problem?
[07:23] <skavenge> bigfoot1: you cant right click on it in alacarte and 'delete' it?
[07:23] <serengeti> hello :) i'm having some trouble with getting linksys WPC54G v5 to work
[07:23] <bigfoot1> skavenge: that's just *hiding* it
[07:23] <Amaranth> skavenge: that only works if you created it (or if you're using edgy)
[07:23] <bigfoot1> but i guess hiding is fine
[07:23] <trev__> can anyone tell me were festival is installed to in the file system?
[07:23] <GTX> trappist, Ive set that up already :p only took an hour or two haha, btw where do I get more themes for gkrellm
[07:23] <skavenge> ah okay
[07:23] <serengeti> i extracted firmware from original driver
[07:23] <cypher1> jrib, no it is not showing up :(
[07:23] <bigfoot1> Amaranth: i see. i didn't know that. thanks!
[07:23] <skavenge> i havent monkeyed with the menus much
[07:23] <serengeti> and put it into /lib/firmware
[07:23] <Bonez56> cypher1: what version of gaim are you running?
[07:23] <Amaranth> and yeah, delete in edgy just hides it completely
[07:23] <cypher1> Bonez56, , 1.5.1cvs
[07:24] <serengeti> so now the mrv8k driver kicks in and the led on the card lights up
[07:24] <jrib> cypher1: does the file /usr/lib/gaim/guifications.so exist on your system?
[07:24] <bigfoot1> if instead of logging out of my account, i do "swich user" does this mean my computer will run more slowly?
[07:24] <serengeti> but it's not recognized as a wireless card by the system
[07:24] <Seveas> bigfoot1, not unlikely
[07:24] <serengeti> it's just eth1
[07:24] <cypher1> jrib, yes
[07:24] <bigfoot1> Seveas: double negative means "yes"?
[07:24] <bigfoot1> yes?
[07:24] <help> how do i use chown man
[07:24] <dr_willis> bigfoot1,  doing that runs another instance of X and so forth.. so it takes up more resources...
[07:24] <skavenge> serengeti: my wireless runs under eth1
[07:24] <bigfoot1> dr_willis: i see
[07:24] <dr_willis> bigfoot1,  but it depends on what they are running.
[07:25] <jrib> cypher1: I don't know then
[07:25] <help> i need to get ownership of my other harddrive
[07:25] <Supermathie> bigfoot1: I find that running two users doesn't slow down much at all, just watch out for, say, screensavers that are CPU hogs
[07:25] <cypher1> jrib, ok thanks
[07:25] <dr_willis> bigfoot1,  could always use that 'xnest' stuff and run the users session in a window.. or  other ways.. dependoing on what your other user needs to run/do
[07:25] <bigfoot1> Supermathie: i see
[07:25] <serengeti> skavenge: but iwconfig says no wireless capabilities
[07:25] <dr_willis> bigfoot1,  or in a shell just su/login as that user. :P
[07:26] <tobfass> who can help me with my wlan? The recent update to LTS screwed things up. It doesn't activate anymore coming out of suspend.
[07:26] <bigfoot1> dr_willis: oh. if i do that sudo login command, does that log me off my current account?
[07:26] <bigfoot1> dr_willis: and will i be able to get GUI for her accoun?
[07:26] <bigfoot1> t
[07:26] <skavenge> serengeti: okay thats not good, did you check the  wiki for instructions?
[07:27] <serengeti> skavenge@ i've tried various wikis, which one do you have in mind?
[07:27] <help> i need to get ownership of my other harddive and someone told me i need to use chown man
[07:27] <serengeti> i tried to use ndiswrapper before
[07:27] <serengeti> but it didn't work at all
[07:27] <jrib> help: type 'man chown', it is the manual for the chown command.  You type commands in applications > accessories > terminal
[07:28] <skavenge> serengeti: the wiki.ubuntu.com one, what module is the card using?
[07:28] <help> i do not understand the manual
[07:28] <MarcN> help: you man also want to read up on adding to /etc/fstab   depends on what you are really doing.
[07:28] <skavenge> serengeti: and are you on 32 or 64 bit? i know nothing about the 64 bit wireless
[07:28] <help> all i want to do is get ownership
[07:28] <MarcN> help: what is on that disk? NTFS? ext3? other distro?
[07:29] <serengeti> skavenge: it's good old 32  bit here :)
[07:29] <help> it is mount to /home/hda1 ext3
[07:29] <dr_willis> bigfoot1,  it all depends.. in a shell it wont.. as for gui apps running. thats a security issue. and proberly wont let them run.. but theres ways around it.
[07:29] <knapper> Help, I'm trying to install gimpshop from source. It complained there is no XML::Parser installed. So I brought up the cpan prompt to install it, but it says "make returned bad status" and will not install.
[07:29] <skavenge> serengeti: what module is the card loading to run?
[07:29] <serengeti> skavenge, i'll check out the wiki
[07:29] <jrib> help: if I wanted to make the file /home/jasonr/notex.txt owned by the user 'jrib', I would type: sudo chown jrib:jrib /home/jasonr/notes.txt
[07:30] <MarcN> help:   sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media     will just mount it up.  Adding something like     /dev/hda1   /media    ext3 default 0 0    to /etc/fstab will mount it on boot.
[07:30] <jrib> Knorrie: install the libxml-parser-perl package
[07:30] <help> i want to get permission to the whole drive
[07:30] <serengeti> skavenge: mrv8k
[07:30] <help> it mounted
[07:30] <jrib> knapper: install libxml-parser-perl package
[07:30] <skavenge> serengeti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wifi lists install docs for many cards
[07:30] <MarcN> help:  again, what is on the disk?   linux formatted?  windows?  the solution depends on what you are trying to do.
[07:30] <help> i just do not have ownership
[07:31] <skavenge> serengeti: i dont see that specific one on there but it may still help ;/
[07:31] <help> ext3
[07:31] <Knorrie> jrib: why?
[07:32] <jrib> Knorrie: wrong name, sorry
[07:32] <Knorrie> jrib: hehe i see :)
[07:32] <bahadir> hello, my ostfix on ubuntu does not let foreign IPs connect to 25
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> does scp resume files?
[07:32] <bigfoot1> can i set my friend's user account (on same box)'s from my user account? Or must I log in as her?
[07:32] <serengeti> skavenge, the problem is that there were several versions of this card and each of them has a different chipset :)
[07:32] <MarcN> help: try adding this to /etc/fstab:       /dev/hda1    /whereever  auto rw,user 0 0        then umount /whatever followed by mount -a
[07:32] <bahadir> Escape character is '^] '.
[07:32] <bahadir> Connection closed by foreign host.
[07:32] <skavenge> serengeti: ouch thats never fun
[07:32] <bahadir> that's the reply. what can be the problem ? I can connect to 110
[07:33] <MarcN> fyrestrtr: no scp doesn't. look at rsync (perhaps with -e ssh)
[07:33] <linuzo> I recently installed apache now for some reason I can access it from the LAN IP 192.168.0.1 but when I connect to my WAN IP it doesn't show me a page.. but if a computer outside of my network goes to my IP it shows them the page..  does anyone know how to fix this so I can access it from my WAN IP not LAN IP
[07:33] <bigfoot1> i want to change my friend's keyboard layout from within my user account. Is this possible?
[07:33] <skavenge> bahadir: have you opened the port?
[07:33] <serengeti> skavenge, true, true :)
[07:33] <bahadir> yep. from us.robotics adsl modem I set virtual server
[07:33] <Paladine> bahadir, do you have telnet running?
[07:33] <bigfoot1> and how if I use DVORAK, and she uses QWERTY. how do we decide which layout is used for the login screen?
[07:33] <Paladine> telnetd
[07:34] <bahadir> when I restart the server it works fine
[07:34] <bahadir> but after a while it stops responding
[07:34] <skavenge> bahadir: unless the mail program did it for you all incoming ports are denied with ubuntu's firewall
[07:34] <bigfoot1> correction: and if I ...
[07:34] <bahadir> 110 is working fine by popa3d
[07:34] <knapper> jrib: That got it, but now it's saying "Test for GTK+ failed". Is there some dev packages I need to install?
[07:34] <[Wiebel] > servers still down?
[07:34] <skavenge> [Wiebel] : no
[07:34] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[07:34] <trappist> GTX: google for em :)  I use the klearllm one
[07:34] <bahadir> paladine: telnet to 110 works ok but 25 not
[07:35] <dr_willis> knapper,  yep.. i would guess the gtk dev files. :)  i always seem to just search for -dev and install ooodles of them all.
[07:35] <[Wiebel] > ubuntuforums.org doesnt seem to work
[07:35] <skavenge> bahadir: you said they couldnt connect to 25, thats the one you need to know is open or not
[07:35] <Paladine> sounds like theport is blocked
[07:35] <bahadir> skavenge : there is smtng wrong with network clients
[07:35] <jrib> knapper: yes, search for lib gtk dev, some name like that
[07:35] <bahadir> also cannot putty fm windows
[07:35] <bahadir> sh**
[07:35] <skavenge> bahadir: the port isnt open
[07:36] <bahadir> skavenge : but it says escape character bla bla
[07:36] <knapper> alright, thanks jrib, dr_willis
[07:36] <bahadir> only after a while something goes wrong and spoils
[07:36] <bahadir> I need to relay emails from network clients
[07:36] <skavenge> bahadir: if you cant telnet to 25 its not open
[07:37] <bahadir> ska: I will ask another
[07:37] <skavenge> oookay..
[07:37] <modulus> hey, on the live CD there are two items, examples and install. is this the only thing one can do on the live CD, or how does one do otherwise?
[07:38] <bahadir> in a basic network, 1 server and 1 client, adsl modem network, do I hv to assign static ips like 192.168.1.2 and 1.3 to the machines or let dhcp do that ? (server has to take 192.168.1.10 but what abt others ?)
[07:38] <skavenge> modulus: what else do you want to do?
[07:38] <modulus> skavenge: try OpenOficce for instance
[07:38] <skavenge> modulus: so run the livecd and start it
[07:38] <modulus> is install for installing to HD or for configuring live CD or what?
[07:39] <Nox2k3> bahadir: the server can take whatever you want, DHCP can take care of the other computers unless you want one of them to be special
[07:39] <MarcN> bahadir: you should have a dhcp server on your side of the network (mine is handled by a linksys firewall/router device)
[07:39] <MarcN> bahadir: your dsl provider usually only hands you 1 IP address.
[07:39] <modulus> hmm, how does one access to OpenOffice? there are only those two items.
[07:40] <bahadir> when I restart machines, everything is okay, foreign IPs can connect easily BUT once a local client tries to connect server's 192.168.1.10:25 then all goes down!
[07:40] <skavenge> modulus: is this dapper livecd? you have to run it to acess the programs
[07:40] <modulus> right, ubuntu 6.06 live CD.
[07:40] <MarcN> modulus: under Applications->Office there should be a few open office links
[07:40] <skavenge> modulus: if its dapper first option is 'run livecd / install'
[07:41] <modulus> i've booted with it. i get these two items, install and examples. i'm using an unfamiliar system so not sure how to access the rest of th software.
[07:41] <modulus> aha, i understand.
[07:41] <cassinho> Hi, can someone help me a little to fix my lilo?
[07:41] <modulus> yes yes, option the first, then it boots.
[07:42] <_gabriel> I can't connect to the internet with the hard drive installation of 6.06, but the liveCD internet works fine.
[07:42] <modulus> it's just i'm using Orca and not sure how to access things, sorry. usually a console person, not much experience with X. I guess i have to screw around a bit and find out how to access application and the like..
[07:42] <tommy2k4> what do i have to do to be able to login to kubuntu again after formatting /home
[07:42] <joeljkp> anyone have any experiences with the edgy test cd?
[07:42] <tommy2k4> it says kstartupconfig cannot start
[07:42] <BeBraw> how can i change the calendar to show dates in mon, tue, wed ... order instead of sun, mon, tue ?
[07:42] <cassinho> Anyone here with some lilo experience?
[07:42] <tommy2k4> if i try failsafe session it gives some dcopserver errors then the konsole window
[07:43] <skavenge> cassinho: im sure 99% of us use grub
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> joeljkp: try in #ubuntu+1
[07:43] <cassinho> Well
[07:43] <cassinho> Hmm
[07:43] <cassinho> Can someone help me to switch to grub?
[07:43] <Nox2k3> Isn't grub the default?
[07:44] <cassinho> the grub that the cd installs never works for me
[07:44] <Nox2k3> You would have had to switch to lilo first?
[07:44] <skavenge> Nox2k3: yes
[07:44] <trappist> cassinho: is the partition with /boot on it xfs?
[07:44] <cassinho> i've installed like 10 times with grub and none boots any os, i tried installing it on sda, sda2, hda, hda1 (even when i know that the mbr is on sda)
[07:45] <cassinho> i've also tried the default ok for installign grub
[07:45] <cassinho> grub pops up
[07:45] <cassinho> but when i try to boot anything
[07:45] <Nox2k3> grub needs to be on whatever disk your bios is booting first
[07:45] <cassinho> it gives me an error
[07:45] <cassinho> i know, it's on SDA
[07:45] <cassinho> It should be on SDA
[07:45] <Nox2k3> Do you recall anything about the error?
[07:45] <cassinho> Hmm
[07:45] <ttyfscker> !apt-spy
[07:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-spy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: what error?
[07:45] <skavenge> is grub giving you the error or the kernel?
[07:45] <cassinho> error 22 or 25
[07:45] <ttyfscker> ehh
[07:45] <Rasmus89> !iso
[07:45] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:46] <cassinho> grub on 2nd phase i guess i read
[07:46] <Rasmus89> !mount
[07:46] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:46] <Nox2k3> Have you tried checking the grub site for a description of those error codes?
[07:46] <cassinho> i tried, didn't help me that much tho
[07:47] <ttyfscker> Rasmus89:: i usually mount my iso's with mount -t iso9660 -o /path/to/iso /mount/point
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: describe your hard drive and partition setup.
[07:48] <XVampireX> Any way to restore a file to a previous state?
[07:48] <skavenge> XVampireX: yeah back it up beforehand heh
[07:48] <XVampireX> :(
[07:48] <XVampireX> I don't know, something happened
[07:48] <zeeeee> hi all, after hibernating, i don't know how to resume. after selecting ubuntu from the grub menu, ubuntu just starts as normal, instead of resuming my last session. (suspend works though.) what's going on?
[07:48] <cassinho> I have 2 HD, 1 IDE and 1 SATA, i have the SATA one partitioned in #1 ntfs (with windows installed), #2 ext3 (for linux), #5 swap, the ide one is 1 only partition of ntfs (there's no the mbr tho)
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> ttyfscker: you should just use -t auto
[07:48] <XVampireX> I downloaded some anime (Hunter x Hunter) and for some reason episode 22 changed itself to 22kb file?
[07:49] <ttyfscker> fyrestrtr:: i never use -t auto
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> XVampireX: how in the blazes is that a ubuntu problem?
[07:49] <dr_willis> the other ep.s sucked that one dry! :P
[07:49] <skavenge> XVampireX: what was it before? sure you didnt mistake 22k for 22 meg?
[07:49] <crimsun> ddonky: hi
[07:50] <cassinho> fyrestrtr: Can i pm you?
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> zeeeee: could be a problem with acpi support for your laptop.
[07:50] <XVampireX> skavenge, nope, it was well over 100mb
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: sure
[07:50] <XVampireX> 195mb
[07:50] <skavenge> XVampireX: got me there then, thats not usual .. what are you using to dl?
[07:50] <XVampireX> and it won't let me play
[07:50] <XVampireX> azureus
[07:50] <Nox2k3> cassinho: I suspect that your grub is not installed with the correct root
[07:50] <XVampireX> But It played just yesterday
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> XVampireX: is this a torrent you are downloading?
[07:51] <zeeeee> fyrestrtr: is there a way for me to find out for sure? (i'm using a dell latitude d600)
[07:51] <XVampireX> I already finished downloading it
[07:51] <skavenge> yikes no clue there, torrents are evil ;)
[07:51] <Rasmus89> ah I cant figure out.. I know someone wrote it before.. but what exactely should I write if I want to mount my.iso to the name theiso
[07:51] <Nox2k3> cassinho: Have you ever tried installing it from the grub shell?
[07:51] <bahadir> in ubuntu, with which command I can connect tty to another server ?
[07:51] <bahadir> sudo ssh xx.xx.xx.xxx 22 ?
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> zeeeee: easiest way would be to google your laptop model with 'linux suspend'
[07:51] <bahadir> (not as root)
[07:51] <Centaur5> Is there a way to make Dapper not update certain packages?
[07:51] <skavenge> Centaur5: lock them in synaptic
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> bahadir: depends what port and service you are trying to connect to.
[07:51] <dyn-afk> bahadir just use ssh
[07:52] <dyn-afk> but you can apend the username to it
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> Centaur5: you can lock them (see synaptic)
[07:52] <bahadir> office IP at port 22
[07:52] <dyn-afk> see man ssh for more info :)
[07:52] <Centaur5> skavenge: Okay, thanks.  I'll go find out how to do that.
[07:52] <dyn-afk> ssh is always on port 22
[07:52] <zeeeee> fyrestrtr: suspend works though..
[07:52] <bahadir> but it asked me root password
[07:52] <dyn-afk> unless you've changed the standard port
[07:52] <bahadir> I need my owns account
[07:52] <dyn-afk> I use ssh to
[07:52] <skavenge> Centaur5: click on the package, then go to 'package' in the pulldown menu, 'lock version'
[07:53] <dyn-afk> I just type in ssh ip-address-to-machine
[07:53] <dyn-afk> it automatically uses the same username as with ubuntu
[07:53] <bahadir> dyn: okay but I dont want root access, how can I log on as user ?
[07:53] <Rasmus89> ah I cant figure out.. I know someone wrote it before.. but what exactely should I write if I want to mount my.iso to the name theiso
[07:53] <dyn-afk> I type in the password and boom, I'm in :)
[07:53] <Centaur5> skavenge: Thanks, I was able to find it easily I didn't even know about the feature.  :)
[07:53] <bahadir> ah okay
[07:53] <bahadir> let me try
[07:53] <Rasmus89> -
[07:53] <dyn-afk> you login as a user
[07:53] <skavenge> Centaur5: np
[07:53] <cbx33> Rasmus89, as a virtual cd ?
[07:54] <Rasmus89> yes
[07:54] <bahadir> brrr. permission denied :)
[07:54] <cbx33> in a few days
[07:54] <cbx33> check the universe for gisomount
[07:54] <siennalizard> bahadir: ssh <user>@<host>
[07:54] <cbx33> I wrote a nice little gui pacakge for just that
[07:54] <bahadir> brrraaavooooooo
[07:54] <bahadir> tnks mate
[07:54] <skavenge> ...
[07:54] <siennalizard> bahadir: np
[07:54] <cbx33> bahadir, or ssh <host> -l <user>
[07:55] <xuxa> I am looking for the Dapper powerpc live CD iso image but I'm having difficulty locating it...
[07:55] <Nox2k3> Is there anything weird I have to do to get usplash to continue to work after manually compiling a kernel?
[07:55] <skavenge> Rasmus89: its on the first line everytime you type !iso
[07:55] <bahadir> yeah I am in. tnks guys
[07:55] <Rasmus89> !iso
[07:55] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:55] <skavenge> xuxa: www.ubuntu.com right under downloads
[07:56] <xuxa> skavenge: hrm... let me look again
[07:56] <skavenge> xuxa: click your country then under 'Desktop', its the PPC option
[07:56] <rem_> Hey can anyone advise a good laptop to use with Ubuntu ... ?
[07:56] <skavenge> rem_: my dell works great
[07:56] <bigfoot1>  I use DVORAK, and my friend uses QWERTY keyboard layout. How do we switch layouts in the login screen?
[07:57] <xuxa> skavenge: oh!  I thought "Desktop" was different than the live CD...
[07:57] <kouwe> what command should i use to set my computer name?
[07:57] <Nox2k3> this Compaq Presario V2000 works awesome
[07:57] <Nox2k3> except for wireless
[07:57] <rem_> thx 4 info .. ska
[07:57] <skavenge> xuxa: desktop is the livecd
[07:57] <Nox2k3> which I'm trying to remedy right now in a hack and slash fashion
[07:57] <xuxa> skavenge: hehe.  Sorry for the silly question.  Thanks for setting me straight!
[07:57] <siennalizard> rem_: I've had a lot of success with Clevos
[07:57] <skavenge> rem_: only think that didnt work from initial install was wireless inet and its no prob
[07:57] <skavenge> xuxa: no problem, they changed alot of that around it gets confusing
[07:57] <xuxa> skavenge: hopefully my friend will like Ubuntu more than OSX on his iBook.  :)
[07:57] <xuxa> skavenge: :)
[07:57] <gatekeeper> rem_, you can actaully buy laptops with ubuntu pre-installed
[07:58] <ttyfscker> Rasmus89:: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o /path/to/iso  /mountdir/theiso
[07:59] <void^> add loop to -o
[07:59] <Nox2k3> Is there anywhere I can go to find out how Ubuntu's default kernels are built?
[07:59] <Nox2k3> With which patches and so on?
[08:01] <xuxa> \part
[08:01] <xuxa> hehe
[08:01] <bahadir> dyn: order to ssh to the server, any ssh deamon shld be running ?
[08:02] <bahadir> or comes by default
[08:02] <dyn-afk> only on the machine you want to log into
[08:02] <dyn-afk> *login to
[08:02] <Moosebuntu> I'm using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, however the "medium" CRT option is not giving me an optimal refresh rate at 1280 x 1024 (75 - 80mhz).  Any ideas?
[08:02] <siennalizard> Nox2k3: this may help you:
[08:02] <siennalizard> rsync.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git
[08:02] <bahadir> yep.. that's the server and I did not activate anything. which means it will wait until tomorrow morning to be rebooted
[08:02] <Nox2k3> I just found that after some sensible googling, now I get to remember how to use rsync.
[08:03] <cga_afk> !midi
[08:03] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:03] <bahadir> !ssh
[08:03] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:03] <siennalizard> Nox2k3: what plan do you have in mind? can't you use the sources supplied in the repos?
[08:03] <neighborlee> is it just me or is ubuntu slow again ???
[08:04] <Nox2k3> The bcm4xx driver people yelled at me for not having 2.6.18-rc2
[08:04] <Nox2k3> Apparently their driver is working very well with 2.6.17's SoftMac stuff and is even better in .18
[08:04] <Nox2k3> bcm43xx*
[08:04] <danf_1979> Can a interface like the ones shown in a dpkg --reconfigure instance, be controled by another program?
[08:05] <gorpon> Nox2k3: well jeez man why didn't just read their minds in the first place?
[08:05] <siennalizard> Nox2k3: ahh. I see. I've had the same problems in the past. I find that sometimes the ubuntu kernel is fine and meets my needs. Then sometimes the only way forward is to roll my own.
[08:05] <Zambezi> I installed the files, but I can't start the application with Wine. What can I use instead of Wine?
[08:05] <skavenge> bcm43xx is integrated in ubuntu's kernel ..
[08:05] <siennalizard> Nox2k3: I try to avoid it, though, because I'm glad of the automatic updates, and have never really found a performance boost.
[08:06] <Moosebuntu> !refresh rate
[08:06] <econthrust> evening :)
[08:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about refresh rate - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:06] <gatekeeper> Zambezi, virtual machines, then install windows
[08:06] <Nox2k3> I tried to avoid it and read about the possibility of backporting 2.6.17 from edgy, but I doubt that .18 is even in edgy yet considering its still in testing by the kernel dev team.
[08:06] <econthrust> anyone knows how inetd works? i only need to ask a few questions to understand more.
[08:06] <Nox2k3> I was hoping to hack up my Laptop's install as little as possible, ah well.
[08:07] <siennalizard> Nox2k3: That's what i mean.
[08:07] <trappist> econthrust: ask your questions.  if anyone knows, you'll get answers.
[08:07] <Supermathie> Anybody know how to rebuild linux-restricted-modules against a different kernel version?
[08:07] <siennalizard> Nox2k3: If I wanted a roll-your-own, i'd have gone back to gentoo, or slack.
[08:07] <Nox2k3> Indeed, thats why my servers are all Gentoo.
[08:07] <Nox2k3> I prefer roll-your-own for those.
[08:08] <econthrust> so i have set up the svnserve to run from inetd with the -i parameter set in inetd.conf. So when does svnserve start?
[08:08] <Nox2k3> I have trouble resisting new and spiffy things though, like Xgl.
[08:08] <eigenlambda> lol
[08:08] <siennalizard> Nox2k3: sadly, gentoo for desktop real work just doesn't do it for me. Definitely for a server.
[08:08] <Supermathie> econthrust: when a connection is made to the port inet is listening to for it
[08:08] <econthrust> i tried to checkout but it says no answer
[08:09] <Nox2k3> I was forced to use...shudder...Windows for a working environment on my laptop as at least it did everything I needed...mostly. Now Ubuntu is a million times better at everything, except wireless, which I'm going to fix if its the last thing I do.
[08:09] <econthrust> are the conf files loaded automatically after editing them like cron does?
[08:09] <raj> hi room
[08:09] <gatekeeper> siennalizard, I have been thinking about trying to install gentoo, why not for a desktop?
[08:09] <Supermathie> econthrust: no. pkill -HUP inetd
[08:09] <raj> any1 running ubuntu6?
[08:09] <trappist> Nox2k3: ubuntu's not half bad at wireless either
[08:10] <raj> gatekeeper hello :)
[08:10] <trappist> Nox2k3: long as you have a supported card :)
[08:10] <Nox2k3> Its just my wireless card thats the problem.
[08:10] <trappist> yeah
[08:10] <skavenge> Nox2k3: people have the bcm43xx kernel module running in the stock kernel
[08:10] <gatekeeper> hi raj
[08:10] <knapper> How can I remove gimp w/o it removing 'Ubuntu-desktop'
[08:10] <knapper> ?
[08:10] <econthrust> and that will restart inetd too?
[08:10] <trappist> Nox2k3: it should be much MUCH better with edgy
[08:10] <raj> gatekeeper,  how r u doing?
[08:10] <siennalizard> gatekeeper: I wouldn't want to discourage you: I learned a hell of a lot doing it, and I haven't tried for quite a while.
[08:10] <Nox2k3> Its different for various bcm cards
[08:10] <gatekeeper> fine thanx raj and you?
[08:10] <Nox2k3> the 4318 has problems up until 2.6.17
[08:10] <raj> gatekeeper,  all good here, ty
[08:11] <siennalizard> gatekeeper: very satisfying to have a finished install, then to type "emerge gaim" and have everything graphical installed as well is great.
[08:11] <rbond> Does anyone know of a soundcard that supports 5.1 under linux where I do not have to specify an output dirver for each  program in order to have surround sound in ALSA
[08:11] <raj> siennalizard, i would love to try gentoo or even bsd
[08:11] <siennalizard> gatekeeper: I just came accross too many dead-ends getting the desktop functinality I needed.
[08:11] <Nox2k3> So, I'm kinda new to Ubuntu, is Edgy "the next Ubuntu slated for release", or the always unstable bleeding edge distro?
[08:11] <Crembo> Azureus "minimize to system tray" doesn't work (doesn't show up in the gnome notification area). anyone know how to coax it into working?
[08:11] <skavenge> Nox2k3: next one slated
[08:12] <Nox2k3> Crembo: According to Azureus' forums, minimize to tray is fubared.
[08:12] <Crembo> Nox2k3: oh. fun.
[08:12] <raj> Crembo,  chk azureus option
[08:12] <Nox2k3> skavenge: Any idea how "done" it is?
[08:12] <tristanmike> Crembo: you need to use the cvs version
[08:12] <siennalizard> raj: do the manual gentoo install, with the docs on another computer. takes a few hours, but the docs are great.
[08:12] <skavenge> Nox2k3: afaik ubuntu doesnt have an always bleeding edge system unless its the next version coming out
[08:12] <trappist> Nox2k3: not very
[08:12] <rbond> The problem is that my turtle beach santa cruz, I have to specify ch51dup for my ALSA output for each program
[08:12] <tristanmike> Crembo: just a sec, lemme get you the instructions, I have it working fine
[08:12] <econthrust> thanks for the help guys! :) you are all great! byez
[08:12] <skavenge> Nox2k3: well the schedule right now is for october
[08:12] <siennalizard> raj: never tried BSD, slightly frightened I'll be out of my depth... lol
[08:12] <raj> siennalizard,  got 1 pc :(
[08:12] <Nox2k3> skavenge: October isn't bad, is it not usable in a working environment?
[08:13] <raj> siennalizard,  i installed it few minutes back , desktopbsd on vmware
[08:13] <Crembo> tristanmike: cool
[08:13] <raj> looks nice
[08:13] <raj> easy install too
[08:13] <skavenge> Nox2k3: they reccomend no one used it that in any way likes a stable system, but yes people are running it ..  #ubuntu+1 is the edgy channel
[08:13] <sioux> hi ubuntus I have a problem with splashy at the boot i get a parsing problem
[08:13] <Moosebuntu> I'm using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, however the "medium" CRT option is not giving me an optimal refresh rate at 1280 x 1024 (75 - 80mhz).  Any ideas?
[08:13] <gatekeeper> siennalizard, sounds like a good learning exercise, something for the winter, I guess to some extent my motivation apart fromlearning was to get away from the 6 monthly (or whatever) distro upgrade, and just keep upgarding as I go along and as they come out
[08:14] <Moosebuntu> !CRT Resolution
[08:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about CRT Resolution - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:14] <skavenge> !crt
[08:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about crt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:14] <Nox2k3> I'll have to read a bit about it, I used gentoo unstable for a while but thats when I was ok with reading the gentoo forums on a daily basis to try and make things work.
[08:14] <siennalizard> Anyone know of good command line utils to do acpi functions like hibernate/standby? The only thing I can get to work consistently is the gnome quit window.
[08:14] <raj> anyways i got 1 question on ubuntu
[08:14] <narasim_7> the resolution with which gdm starts is always 1280*1024...
[08:15] <siennalizard> Nox2k3: It's when the time for playing runs out... That's why ubuntu clinched it for me. I can pretty much just plug and go.
[08:15] <skavenge> !refresh
[08:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about refresh - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:15] <MattKemp> Can anyone tell me if there's a way linux can read FAT/NTFS filesystems? I've converted recently and have some stuff I'd like on a second disk, but when I try and open it up it says it's unmountable - I think it thinks it's a removable drive.
[08:15] <skavenge> hm
[08:15] <narfmaster> !fixres
[08:15] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:15] <Moosebuntu> Ubotu is useless today
[08:15] <gatekeeper> siennalizard, desktop bsd is supposed to be good so I hear, one vunrability in 8 years someone told me who was runing it
[08:15] <Moosebuntu> ah
[08:15] <Moosebuntu> thx
[08:15] <skavenge> just gotta know the right !bang ;)
[08:15] <narasim_7> even if i change my settings the resolution for gdm is pretty much the same
[08:15] <Moosebuntu> yep
[08:15] <kouwe> what command should i use to set my computer name?
[08:15] <raj> gatekeeper, it was nice OS no doubt
[08:16] <jpjacobs> anyone know wether edgy is also gonna be LTS?
[08:16] <eigenlambda> gatekeeper: that's openbsd, not 'desktop bsd'
[08:16] <siennalizard> gatekeeper: sounds great, but I need functionality, not just stability and security for my desktop box.
[08:16] <jrib> jpjacobs: it's not
[08:16] <eigenlambda> freebsd is just as bad as linux
[08:16] <Crembo> tristanmike: did you find the CVS compile instructions?
[08:16] <eigenlambda> siennalizard: try ubuntu?
[08:16] <siennalizard> eigenlambda: maybe a comment to take to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[08:16] <eigenlambda> hehe
[08:16] <raj> kouwe, hosts/
[08:17] <kouwe> raj, keke
[08:17] <tristanmike> Crembo: forums are a little slow for me, I know how to do it, I just need the link to the proper file....dang, I shoulda bookmarked it, drat!
[08:17] <gatekeeper> eigenlambda, there is openbsd and desktopbsd not sure what the difference if any is
[08:17] <raj> keke??
[08:17] <eigenlambda> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DesktopBSD
[08:17] <eigenlambda> raj: korean for giggling
[08:17] <kouwe> ok ok :)
[08:18] <gatekeeper> !ntfs > MattKemp
[08:18] <tristanmike> Crembo: got it
[08:18] <raj> oops :D
[08:18] <MattKemp> thanks :D
[08:18] <Steph14> Yeah!! XChat on Ubuntu (about time I got it working)
[08:18] <eigenlambda> kouwe: wait, are you korean?
[08:18] <dade`> anyone using a macbook with ubuntu ?
[08:18] <kouwe> uh nee :)
[08:18] <Crembo> Steph14: didn't installing the "xchat" package from Synaptic work?
[08:18] <pekay> ineis the ubuntu forums down?
[08:19] <Shinzetsu> Ive got a Minimize Window-textbubble stuck on my screen
[08:19] <tristanmike> Crembo: copy this file to your home dir. and rename it "Azureus2.jar"
[08:19] <raj> my question anyways is , how do i install Ver 6 via text mode?
[08:19] <tristanmike> Crembo: http://torrents.aelitis.com:88/files/Azureus2403-B67.jar
[08:19] <Tommy2k4> how do i recreate the users after reformatting /home
[08:19] <Steph14> Yes it did, but there were some other things I needed to get going first (unrelated)
[08:19] <eigenlambda> desktopbsd : freebsd :: ubuntu : debian
[08:19] <raj> Tommy2k4,  useradd?
[08:19] <eigenlambda> well, not exactly,  ubuntu is much more to debian than desktopbsd is to bsd
[08:20] <raj> bsd is like unix
[08:20] <raj> ubuntu is debian
[08:20] <narfmaster> raj, using the alternate or DVD install disc?
[08:20] <sioux> who knows something about this error message that I get from splashy?: xml_parser_text_handler: assertion `text_len > 0' failed
[08:20] <raj> narfmaster,  i got cd from shipit
[08:20] <eigenlambda> desktopbsd is a hacked-up version of freebsd for the desktop
[08:20] <Crembo> tristanmike: downloaded. what next?
[08:20] <narfmaster> raj, i think that one only installs via ubiquity
[08:20] <JasonF> is Sarge --> Dapper possible?
[08:20] <tsume> eigenlambda: you damn right its hacked up
[08:21] <raj> oh :(
[08:21] <Masticore> How do I check which verson of xorg I have ?
[08:21] <sioux> :-) xml_parser_text_handler: assertion `text_len > 0' failed
[08:21] <tsume> eigenlambda: those numskulls use packages from the freebsd ports, then they built their own packages. Include, and you come out with resource conflicts
[08:21] <sioux> :-( xml_parser_text_handler: assertion `text_len > 0' failed
[08:21] <tsume> eigenlambda: I use FreeBSD daily, desktopbsd just makes freebsd look bad.
[08:21] <tristanmike> Crembo: "sudo cp -i /usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar ~/Azureus2.jar.bak"
[08:22] <Bonez56> hi im following the ubuntuguide.org info on how to install MySQL. I've installed the service and it is running, but when I try to set the root password I get: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed. An NMAP shows the port is open and the service is running. Any ideas?
[08:22] <raj> Tsukasa,  desktopbsd is that bad?
[08:23] <raj> Bonez56,  firewall?
[08:23] <Bonez56> raj: negative, no firewalls installed
[08:23] <Crembo> tristanmike: and then replace the original in usr/share/java with what I downloaded?
[08:23] <tristanmike> Crembo: you renamed that downloaded file, right ?
[08:23] <Crembo> tristanmike: yep
[08:23] <tristanmike> Crembo: then yes, replace in /usr/share/java/
[08:23] <Masticore> How do I check which verson of xorg I have ?
[08:24] <tsume> raj: nah, its a good attempt. However the lame assed amswer I think It was yazzy, got back was.. "there are legal restrictions why we can't build pacakges" which is a ton of bs
[08:24] <tristanmike> Crembo: make sure Azureus is closed of course ;)
[08:24] <Monphpnet> hello, i'm have serious problem connect to security.ubuntu.com in France
[08:24] <Monphpnet> what the matter?
[08:24] <whiter> is xfce 4.4 beta 2 in edgy's repositories?
[08:24] <santa99> hi guys, i have a Canon 320 printer and want to print in Ubuntu is there a way to get a driver for it because ubuntu doesn't support this printer
[08:24] <Nox2k3> oh theres a snapshot with working systray? Thank you tristanmike.
[08:24] <narfmaster> Masticore, apt-cache policy xserver-xorg
[08:24] <raj> Tsukasa,  should i rather go for pcbsd?
[08:24] <Bonez56> santa99: I set up a Canon S750 the other day and I ended up googling and found an unsupported .deb package that contrained canon drivers, try google.
[08:24] <Masticore> narfmaster: tnx
[08:24] <yuheng108> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[08:24] <yuheng108> fixme:jack:JACK_drvLoad error loading the jack library libjack.so, please install this library to use jack
[08:25] <yuheng108> how do you fix that?
[08:25] <raj> santa99, try linux-drivers.org
[08:25] <santa99> Bonez56, ok will try it with google first
[08:25] <santa99> raj, will have a look for it thx
[08:25] <zeeeee> hi all, i installed the gnome network manager, but when it runs, it just shows a disconnected icon. left-clicking shows a menu with a dimmed "No network devices found," and right-clicking shows a menu with a checked "Enable networking" and a dimmed "Connection information." yet i can connect fine on my ipw2200, via System > Admin > Networking. what's going on?
[08:25] <Bonez56> santa99: also take raj's advice
[08:25] <tsume> raj: Personally, I recommend using FreeBSD and building source yourself. You have used gentoo, right?
[08:25] <tristanmike> Anytime Nox2k3 ;)
[08:25] <Zambezi> gatekeeper, But I only have 512 MB. :-(
[08:26] <raj> tsume, nope
[08:26] <tsume> raj: its not hard, you just have to wait for code to build. and the plus is you get the latest and greatest stuff :)
[08:26] <nkryptr_25> hey there.. i can't ssh into my other computer ... can anyone help me?
[08:26] <Zambezi> gatekeeper, One idea is virtual OS like Win2k and block everything.
[08:26] <Nox2k3> Whats the difference between "Software Suspend" and "Suspend2"?
[08:26] <raj> tsume,  will gentoo work well with dual boot?
[08:27] <jpjacobs> do you have an sshsrver?
[08:27] <Nox2k3> nevermind i can google that
[08:27] <sioux> boys I have a splashy problem: xml_parser_text_handler: assertion `text_len > 0' failed who can help me? :-)
[08:27] <tsume> raj: I was talking about freevsd :)
[08:27] <tsume> *freebsd
[08:27] <Tommy2k4> i reformatted /home and now it wont let me login to kde (im in failsafe session atm) what do i need to do?
[08:27] <tsume> raj: gentoo is okay. I just perfer BSD personally.
[08:27] <tsume> raj: linux is just a tool, bsd is my os :)
[08:27] <raj> tsume,  kool freebsd next :)
[08:27] <Crembo> tristanmike: well, now it loads a bit slower and complains about being unable to update the SWT library. ah well. I'll just live with it like that until the updated version gets landed in the ubuntu repos.
[08:27] <nkryptr_25> jpjacobs: yep ssh server is running on remote machine
[08:27] <raj> i dual boot system a lot,
[08:28] <Crembo> tristanmike: oh! but the systray works perfect.
[08:28] <raj> so have to take that as consideration too
[08:28] <tristanmike> Crembo: I get the same thing, didn't notice it load any slower, but I don't care about the update, it works
[08:28] <gatekeeper_> Zambezi, yep
[08:28] <raj> sorry bout my spellings
[08:28] <pekay> is some of Ubuntu down again? >.>
[08:28] <tsume> raj: the only sad thing mono doesn't run well on any BSD. Its mono's fault for it however.
[08:28] <tristanmike> Crembo: and any message that pops up will "Hide" now
[08:28] <tsume> pekay: what?
[08:28] <cotroler> I am using Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) how do I update to the newly released version 6.06 ?
[08:28] <tsume> pekay: where?
[08:28] <tristanmike> the forums are crazy slow for me
[08:28] <secleinteer> !upgrade
[08:28] <pekay> Got Waiting for Headers still staying there on adept-updater
[08:28] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:28] <technician> hi i am installing squid from source
[08:28] <tsume> I'm sure it will pass
[08:28] <gatekeeper_> pekay, forums are slow but working
[08:28] <Zambezi> gatekeeper, But it sounds risky to use Windows on Linux.
[08:29] <tsume> there could be bots searching the forums
[08:29] <Bonez56> hi im following the ubuntuguide.org info on how to install MySQL. I've installed the service and it is running, but when I try to set the root password I get: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed. An NMAP shows the port is open and the service is running. Any ideas?
[08:29] <whiter> is xfce 4.4 beta 2 in edgy's repositories?
[08:29] <tsume> googlebot does that to mine sometimes :)
[08:29] <technician> hi i am installing squid from source the default user is nobody for cache_dir but when i do chown nobody:nobody var in squid directory it says "chown: `nobody:nobody': invalid group
[08:29] <technician> "
[08:29] <pekay> gatekeeper: I got 3 updateable packages, but when i press Apply Patches it just stays on "Waiting for Headers (0%)"
[08:29] <raj> well bbl guy
[08:29] <tsume> raj: laters
[08:29] <raj> ty all so much
[08:29] <raj> tsume,  ty
[08:29] <gatekeeper_> Zambezi, possible a lot of people use virtual os
[08:30] <pekay> gatekeeper: oh sorry, just its very very slow atm, downloading finally :p
[08:30] <kouwe> where do i set the MOTD for ssh?
[08:30] <Zambezi> gatekeeper, I descide later.
[08:31] <gatekeeper_> pekay, what ever there problems are, they still seem to having trouble :-(
[08:31] <technician> anyone can help me ? ???????????/
[08:31] <pekay> gatekeeper: indeed, i thought something was broken here xd
[08:32] <technician> hi i am installing squid from source the default user is nobody for cache_dir but when i do chown nobody:nobody var in squid directory it says "chown: `nobody:nobody': invalid group
[08:32] <fogos> hi someone know a cms for newspapers...
[08:33] <narfmaster> technician, nobody is a member of nogroup
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> fogos: cofax.org
[08:33] <gatekeeper_> pekay, i use synaptic quite a lot, if i press reload, and it works I know that it is usually safe tp proceed, if the repos are down it will fail to reload
[08:33] <Steph14> cms ?
[08:33] <technician> ok
, thanks
[08:33] <technician> nogroup narfmaster is the name of the group ?
[08:34] <narfmaster> technician, yes i think so
[08:34] <technician> so it will be chown nobody:nogroup ?
[08:34] <narfmaster> sudo chown nobody:nogroup filename
[08:35] <technician> narfmaster how to create a group name nobody because squid proxy need it ?
[08:35] <narfmaster> hmm, that i have no idea about technician
[08:35] <technician> narfmaster how to create a group name nobody and also how to make nobody user member of it  ?
[08:36] <Masticore> What kind of program is 'alien' ? It's say in the xgl guide that I need it.
[08:36] <narfmaster> !info alien
[08:36] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[08:36] <tmccrary> Anyone know if there's a list of Linux compatible audio recording gear (like consoles, etc)
[08:36] <gatekeeper_> Masticore, allows you to install rpm's
[08:37] <Masticore> gatekeeper_: what is rpm's? (im a noob in linux)
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> Masticore: redhat package manager -- another way to distribute programs in the linux world.
[08:38] <Masticore> fyrestrtr: aha
[08:39] <Steph14> Masticore.. RPM was RedHat Package Management
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> Masticore: its very popular in redhat, and other rpm based distributions (like fedora, suse, etc.)
[08:39] <technician> narfmaster, how to check which user is member of which group ?
[08:39] <pekay> gatekeeper: you're using Kubuntu or Ubuntu right?
[08:39] <narfmaster> technician, i just use the System > Admin > Users and Groups program
[08:40] <gatekeeper_> pekay, kubuntu why?
[08:40] <pekay> oh wondering
[08:40] <technician> narfmaster i am on remote pc :(
[08:40] <pekay> about the Synaptic~ (Spelling? :p)
[08:40] <Elko> technician: sudo ${EDITOR} /etc/group and id <user> if you like the prompt
[08:40] <pk0nink> does anyone know if the multiverse repository at http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ has any PPC files?
[08:41] <technician> thanks Elko
[08:41] <gatekeeper_> pekay, actually my other half windows laptop, because it's too hot to be upstairs with my pc's :-)
[08:41] <prophet> i just went into windows and it started pissing me off im thinking of just reformatting to ubuntu
[08:41] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[08:41] <marigr> hola con quien hablo
[08:41] <gatekeeper_> prophet, go for it :-)
[08:42] <eugman> ImportError: libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:42] <prophet> ill wait some more im still not 100% confortable
[08:42] <mastermoll88> anyone here like to help me step by step to install a Tv Tuner card ?
[08:42] <mastermoll88> :D
[08:42] <s_spiff> guys how to get the latest azureus?
[08:43] <Klowner> daah, darn vim isn't remembering the last line I was on when I re-open a file like it does on my gentoo box
[08:43] <gatekeeper_> prophet, some usefull links including a transition guide http://za1012001.googlepages.com/
[08:43] <Ademan> is there a program that will verify a cd's integrity (like, compare it to an iso?) other than k3b?
[08:43] <santa99> anyone here runs a canon i320 in ubuntu ?
[08:43] <Klowner> Ademan: md5sum /dev/cdrom  and then md5sum the .iso ? :)
[08:43] <Crembo> tristanmike: I have a problem with the beta Azureus you sent me - there is no 'health' icon next to the torrents...
[08:44] <gatekeeper_> prophet, you can have a play with a linux desktop using either livecd or www.cosmopod.com
[08:44] <tristanmike> Crembo: really ? there must be in mine, lemme check....
[08:44] <Ademan> Klowner: you can md5sum a cdrom drive?
[08:44] <Crembo> tristanmike: I'm suspecting that this is due in part to the SWT library mismatch...
[08:44] <prophet> ive been using ubuntu for 2 weeks now
[08:44] <tristanmike> Crembo: I get the same error though
[08:45] <Crembo> tristanmike: but do you see the health icons?
[08:45] <gnomefreak> !verify > Ademan
[08:45] <prophet> its on my 9 gig hd i was thinking of just putting it on my 120gig xp hd cause xp is starting to piss me off its slow
[08:46] <Korst3n> hello, any ideas in that, i have just received ubuntu dapper drake cds ( thank you so much for them! ) , but when i try to boot it, after it starts X, says loading nautilus, then stucks
[08:46] <Klowner> Ademan: sure
[08:46] <Ademan> gnomefreak: well the iso is fine, but i'm worried the cd may not be, because it keeps hanging at the same place (though its pretty far into the install)
[08:46] <tristanmike> Crembo: lemme grab a torrent file first
[08:46] <gatekeeper_> prophet, you won't look back once  you have learnt linux and got into the comfort zone, and (k)ubuntu there is stacks of help
[08:46] <RichEd> 'lo all
[08:46] <RichEd> can someone tell me how to recover my wireless ethernet if it says: Status : Disconnected
[08:46] <gnomefreak> Ademan: reburn the cd at the lowest speed possible
[08:46] <GTX> Is there anyway to make icons on the desktop, so when you click them it will automaticlay login to my servers ( via ssh )
[08:46] <Crembo> tristanmike: you can just grab a random one off of www.tokyotosho.com
[08:46] <prophet> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[08:46] <Ademan> just to clarify i'm trying to use the xubuntu alternate install, and it keeps hanging at installing language pack
[08:47] <gnomefreak> prophet: desktop environment
[08:47] <corni> someone german here ?..i need help !!!!
[08:47] <prophet> better or worse
[08:47] <gnomefreak> Ademan: are you sure its hanging the lang. packs take a while to install
[08:47] <mortal> corni: ograI speak
[08:47] <corni> gut
[08:48] <mortal> corni: warum
[08:48] <mortal> corni: hast du eine frage ber ubuntu
[08:48] <Ademan> its been at 1% for about 20 minutes
[08:48] <caminomaster> hello
[08:48] <corni> ja
[08:48] <gnomefreak> !de
[08:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:48] <caminomaster> how can I restart alsa?
[08:48] <mortal> englisch passt nicht?
[08:48] <gatekeeper_> prophet, the window manager, ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde, there is also an XFce and enlightenment siblings
[08:48] <tristanmike> Crembo: I have the health icons
[08:48] <Crembo> tristanmike: hmmmm.
[08:48] <rocknrolf77> Anyone here who hace had any logout problems in ubuntu after installing konqueror?
[08:48] <wildman> mortal, English-only channel
[08:48] <khoda`> I just installed Ubuntu. Everything seems to be fine except my internet is really slow. It is not slow on my windows partition. Any ideas on what I should do?
[08:48] <prophet> its just the look?
[08:48] <jokor> prophet: makular
[08:48] <Ademan> gatekeeper_: gnome kde and xfce are not window managers but desktop environments
[08:49] <corni> soll ich da nun  hingehen oder kann ich meine frage auch hier stellen ?
[08:49] <Crembo> tristanmike: guess I'll give it an OS reboot before worrying.
[08:49] <tristanmike> Crembo: I suggest updating the swt a couple of times, I kept doing not realizing I was updating the same thing, I thought to myself "like what's going on here ?" :P
[08:49] <gnomefreak> corni: join #ubuntu-de
[08:49] <Crembo> tristanmike: .. eh?
[08:49] <Ademan> khoda: in firefox go to about:config and change the network. something . disableipv6 to true
[08:49] <gatekeeper_> Ademan, ok :-)
[08:49] <mortal> corni: mach das
[08:49] <Crembo> !ipv6
[08:49] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:49] <mortal> auf englisch
[08:49] <Crembo> khoda: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:50] <tmccrary> !uwhatu
[08:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about uwhatu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:50] <khoda`> Ademan: : where is the about:config (im very new to linux)
[08:50] <knapper> How can I remove the gimp w/o removing ubuntu-desktop?
[08:50] <Ademan> gnomefreak: it had been at 1% for 20 minutes, i just did a hard powerdown should i try again?
[08:50] <GTX> Is there anyway to make icons on the desktop, so when you click them it will automaticlay login to my servers ( via ssh )
[08:50] <gnomefreak> knapper: ubuntu-desktop is ok to be removed
[08:50] <Ademan> khoda: put about:config in the address bar
[08:50] <gnomefreak> Ademan: yeah or reburn it at lowest speed
[08:50] <tristanmike> Crembo: well, after I replaced the jar file, I got that update for the swt, so I did it and restarted, then got the same update, did it and restarted, rinse/repeat a few times till I said, frig it, I just leave it :P
[08:50] <corni> hmm wenn ich das  hin krieg ^^
[08:50] <prophet> what are some firewalls for ubuntu?
[08:50] <rocknrolf77> firestarter
[08:51] <Ademan> gnomefreak: yeah i normally burn at 4x but for whatever reason this one i didnt...
[08:51] <Crembo> tristanmike: you mean that warning about NO update?
[08:51] <sktx> knapper: you can remove ubuntu-desktop, it doesn't hurt anything
[08:51] <CrippsFX> about a month ago I followed the instructions to install xgl/compiz on a computer with an ati card, which involved installing the ati proprietary drivers from their website. Is there any way to remove those drivers? I'm getting extremely low performance from tem.
[08:51] <sktx> knapper: it won't actually remove our desktop
[08:51] <Korst3n> lemme ask again, when i try to boot ubuntu on live cd, after it starts X, says loading nautilus, then stucks, i cant even move mouse, wot could be wronG?
[08:51] <gatekeeper_> prophet, iptables, but there are gui's you can use to control iptables
[08:51] <tristanmike> Crembo: ? the update window pops up for me and updates, lemme try again
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> Korst3n: what video card do you have?
[08:51] <khoda`> Ademan: still slow
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[08:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[08:52] <sktx> knapper: ubuntu-desktop is just a package that depends on all the packages that make up the ubuntu default desktop. removing it won't actually remove the packages.
[08:52] <gatekeeper_> !iptables > prophet
[08:52] <Crembo> tristanmike: for me, it yells about "unable to update SWT libraries" once and then... nothing
[08:52] <knapper> sktx, gnomefreak: ok thanks
[08:52] <ubuntufan> are the servers for the security repositories ok? im having a hard time to connect to them
[08:52] <prophet> so right off the bat there is a firewall
[08:52] <Korst3n> fyrestrtr, i tried with 3 different pcs, all aer same. but in this pc i have s3 trio 3d 2x (16mb)
[08:52] <tristanmike> do you have "Check for updates" turned on and such ?
[08:52] <prophet> so it should be ok as is
[08:52] <Ademan> khoda: did you change it?
[08:52] <GTX> Is there anyway to make icons on the desktop, so when you click them it will automaticlay login to my servers ( via ssh )
[08:52] <sktx> knapper: no prob :)
[08:52] <Korst3n> fyrestrtr, im trying those cds from shipit.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <skavenge> prophet: yes, and it denies all incoming connections by default
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> Korst3n: you might have a bad cd burn
[08:53] <Masticore> Can anyone give me url to a xgl guide (ati) (gnome) that _works_ ? I have tried 2 guides and they went to hell.
[08:53] <prophet> tight
[08:53] <khoda`> Ademan: yes
[08:53] <mirak> does anyone knows how to use .sub files ?
[08:53] <sktx> ubuntufan: i think all the US repositories are down
[08:53] <Korst3n> fyrestrtr, i have tried 4 diff cds
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> GTX: Places > Connect to server...
[08:53] <khoda`> Ademan: gaim is also slow, and so is IRC when it connects
[08:53] <Ademan> oh... hrm then i dont know, maybe you need to totally disable ipv6
[08:53] <tristanmike> Crembo: It downloads and updates for me, but when I close Azureus and restart it, it wants to update again, :P
[08:53] <khoda`> Ademan: what is that
[08:53] <Flannel> khoda`: the IRC connect thing is a server thing
[08:53] <ubuntufan> sktx: :-( again ?
[08:53] <Crembo> tristanmike: oh. pfh.
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> Masticore: the one on compiz.net worked for me.
[08:54] <GTX> fyrestrtr, I want to make an icon however, which I double click and it will open the console
[08:54] <khoda`> Flannel: all internet things are slow
[08:54] <Crembo> tristanmike: I assume I'll need to update the SWT libraries proper if I want to go anywhere but I've no intention of removing the distro's package as it looks like there are several more depending on it.
[08:54] <gatekeeper_> prophet, yes, as I understand it all ports are closed by default, and only when applications that need ports are installed are the ports opened up, however I have never played with iptable, so not 100% sure
[08:54] <joey-u> Does anyone know the command to configure xserver? dpkg-*womething here and... I forget the rest.
[08:54] <prophet> k
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> GTX: just put the terminal icon on your desktop?
[08:54] <idefix> when downloading wine-doc from the repositories I get 28 gz-files, so I just type gunzip * ?
[08:54] <tristanmike> Crembo: works fine here doing exactly what I said, sorry I couldn't be of more help, you can always go back by copying your back up file
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> joey-u: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:55] <joey-u> Thanks man!
[08:55] <GTX> fyrestrtr, but it still asks for password ;\
[08:55] <Ademan> ipv6 is the "new internet" in a sense, there isnt much reason to use it yet, but i assume you know what an IP address is  instead of 255.255.255.255 being the ip  it might be 255.255.255.255.255.255.255.255    so there can be more ip addresses   (psst... guys... ipv6 is an 8 bytes ip right?)
[08:55] <robertj> has anyone here mounted ftp under fuse before?
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> GTX: oh you need to setup ssh keys for that to work. Google it :)
[08:55] <gatekeeper_> prophet, don't have viruses and spyware to worry about either, unless you have other windows machines on your network
[08:55] <Crembo> tristanmike: if there's a way to view health other than that icon then I don't really mind. it's kind of disturbing having the DHT claim to be firewalled but the rest of the program goes "NAT OK"
[08:55] <GTX> fyrestrtr, It doesnt even up an console... just a file browser.
[08:56] <idefix> why does synaptic say it has installed something when it merely puts a load of gz-files on your harddisk?
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> GTX: you need a shortcut to a terminal session. Its easy to setup, but you need to setup remote keys for your ssh logins, for which there are plenty of articles on the web.
[08:56] <skavenge> GTX: gnome-terminal | ssh blah is probably what the command needs to look like
[08:56] <elcuya01>  i am trying to install xubuntu in a imac g3 B/W, afer live boot begins, "Can't allocate initial device-tree chunk", appears. then, firmware promt, help me.
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> idefix: because that's all the package maintainer told synaptic to do. Take it up with the person that made the package.
[08:57] <Bison> hello
[08:58] <Bison> how do i change my default text editor? it is currently nano
[08:58] <GTX> skavenge, It just seems to close ;\
[08:58] <Bison> i need it to be vim
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> Bison: export EDITOR=vim
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> Bison: then save that in your ~/.bashrc
[08:58] <Bison> okay...thanks
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> Bison: if you want to do it for the entire system (globally), edit /etc/profile (I think)
[08:59] <Bison> no need
[08:59] <skavenge> GTX: dunno then, must be wrong syntax .. thought it would be close to that
[08:59] <Bison> thanks though
[08:59] <Bison> excellence
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> Masticore: xgl is highly unstable (especially on ATI). Expect lockups.
[08:59] <Masticore> fyrestrtr: Can't seem to find it :( Can you give me the exact url please?
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> Masticore: http://www.google.com/search?q=ssh+passwordless+login+howto+linux
[09:00] <fonscho> is security.ubuntu down?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:00] <tmccrary> BAN HIM
[09:00] <tmccrary> BAN HIM
[09:00] <greenman> hello.
[09:00] <gnomefreak> fonscho: comment it out
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> tmccrary: ??
[09:00] <fonscho> is there something like a mirror?
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> !mirrors
[09:01] <gnomefreak> fonscho: you dont get packages from that yet on dapper
[09:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:01] <greenman> my gentoo installation has gone to hell and I would like to replace it with ubuntu.
[09:01] <fonscho> gnomefreak: ok, then i must wait, it looks like
[09:01] <Masticore> fyrestrtr: why ssh passwordless login ?
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> greenman: pop in the ubuntu desktop cd, reboot, click on the lovely install icon.
[09:02] <greenman> How would I do that and keep the data I have, such as mailconfigs, user dirs, things like that.\
[09:02] <gnomefreak> fonscho: comment it out in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> Masticore: because that's what you need to setup first :)
[09:02] <fonscho> gnomefreak: well, but why?
[09:02] <skavenge> greenman: back them up and replace them after install
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> greenman: is your /home on another partition?
[09:02] <fonscho> i hop it will be one in a few hours
[09:02] <greenman> fyrestrtr: this is our mail server and I would like to keep the mail that people already have and be able to integrate it into a new mail app
[09:02] <fonscho> one^on
[09:02] <gnomefreak> fonscho: you dont need them
[09:02] <greenman> fyrestrtr: yeah it is.
[09:02] <danf_1979> can apt-get be configured to try n times to get a package (retry getting it) if a connection error with the repositores has ocurred?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> fonscho: dapper doesnt use them yet
[09:03] <tristanmike> what can I use to open an "*.eps" file ?
[09:03] <Desh> Hi, I have an nforce3 motherboard, but I would like to know the socket it uses, or at least the exact version so I can look that up. How would I do this on ubuntu?
[09:03] <Masticore> fyrestrtr: sigh, this is going to be a long night xD
[09:03] <ljlolel> i see m to be having problems with the repos
[09:03] <fonscho> gnomefreak: but why i then cannot load all updates?
[09:03] <Nox2k3> Desh: You mean the CPU Socket?
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> greenman: oooh, I don't know if its such a wise move to convert a mail server to ubuntu. Try to sort out your gentoo issues in #gentoo -- lots of friendly people in there.
[09:03] <ljlolel> even though apt-get update works
[09:03] <ljlolel> nevermind
[09:03] <Desh> Nox2k3: yes
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: gimp should take care of that
[09:03] <gnomefreak> fonscho: you are not understanding me you are not getting any packages/updates from secruity.ubuntu.com
[09:03] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: I get this error "Opening '/home/tristanmike/Desktop/VMP_Colour_Logo_big.eps' failed: Plug-In could not open image"
[09:04] <Nox2k3> Desh: Do you know what kind of CPU you have?
[09:04] <greenman> fyrestrtr: I would, but we've been having issues from day one.  Gentoo is a really good distro, but you have to babysit it a lot.
[09:04] <greenman> We need to install it and have it work.
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> greenman: aye, its a labor of love.
[09:04] <Bakemono> hello
[09:04] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey guys I'm Preparing wine to run Warcraft 3 Roc, and im not sure how to create the symbolic link to the corresponding device node of my CD-Rom, i dont know what to type in or where to type it in at i think my Cd-Rom thing is C:      IF u can help me out with this please pm me!
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: hrmm, try inkscape
[09:04] <greenman> fyrestrtr: I'm thinking since we're using .maildir in users directories, maybe it won't be so complicated?
[09:04] <pantaloon> i think .eps is a vector graphics file
[09:04] <fonscho> gnomefreak: but some repo looks like its off!
[09:04] <fonscho> but which is it?
[09:05] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey guys I'm Preparing wine to run Warcraft 3 Roc, and im not sure how to create the symbolic link to the corresponding device node of my CD-Rom, i dont know what to type in or where to type it in at i think my Cd-Rom thing is C:      IF u can help me out with this please pm me!
[09:05] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: inkscape won't open eps's, it will save as them, but won't open them, go figure :P
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> NewtoUbuntu: check the entry for your game in winehq.org
[09:05] <skavenge> !repeat
[09:05] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:05] <Desh> Nox2k3: It's an AMD64 3200+
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: lol never knew that.
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: what is .eps ?
[09:05] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: me neither, until I just tried to open this drat eps
[09:05] <NewtoUbuntu> ok thanks fyrestrtr
[09:05] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: "encapsualted post script"
[09:05] <NewtoUbuntu> does any1 know a channel dedicated to helping wine users?
[09:06] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: big in graphic arts
[09:06] <skavenge> NewtoUbuntu: #winehq for the 10th time today
[09:06] <gnomefreak> NewtoUbuntu: #winehq
[09:06] <NewtoUbuntu> thanks guys
[09:06] <idefix> !sgml
[09:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about sgml - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:07] <Masticore> fyrestrtr: why didnt it say anything in the two guides I have tried about ssh ?
[09:07] <Nox2k3> Desh: You can lookup the exact motherboard specs if you know the model of the board, I'm pretty sure its a Socket 939 as I don't *believe* that the 64 bit 3200+ series comes in anything else.
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: hrmm, open office should be worth a shot -- did ya try it already?
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> Masticore: don't know?
[09:07] <tristanmike> nope, on to it next :P
[09:07] <macgeek> I added an application to one of the submenus of the Applications menu in Ubuntu, but it has the wrong path. How do I change it?
[09:07] <greenman> fyrestrtr: what does ubuntu come with for mail?  Is it pretty simple to install if it doesn't come with it?  We need email that's readable by emacs.
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> greenman: hrmm, should be okay then -- just backup /home somewhere
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> greenman: console or something else?
[09:08] <Desh> Nox2k3: Oh ok thanks, I was trying to see if I could change the processor to maybe a duo core AMD later on but needed to know the socket type.
[09:08] <grampajoe> Hey, is anyone familiar with Gnomad2 for the Creative MP3 players?
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> greenman: by default, you get evolution.
[09:08] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: and that's a no go for oo.org :(
[09:08] <greenman> fyrestrtr: does that use .maildir?
[09:08] <greenman> fyrestrtr: um, yeah console
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: well now you got me going lol let me see if I can find something. I have just about everything installed on this laptop lol
[09:09] <greenman> fyrestrtr: the boss grew up on solaris unix
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> greenman: oh pick your poison I guess. I like mutt.
[09:09] <skavenge> Masticore: ssh doesnt have anything to do with your problem heh
[09:09] <gnomefreak> security.ubuntu.com is back up
[09:09] <Nox2k3> Desh: You should also make sure that your board will support a Dual Core, you may need a bios update or something.
[09:09] <cassinho> fyrestrtr: pm
[09:09] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: I have 2 eps a friend wanted me to have a look at, one works and one doesn't, but neither open
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> skavenge: he is trying to get password-less remote logins going with ssh, and then he wants to click on an icon to log him into a remote server. First thing, he needs to setup the password-less ssh logins. The icon is trivial.
[09:09] <jozzeph> hi
[09:10] <grampajoe> Does anyone know how I can get Gnomad to recognize my Creative Zen Vision:M?  Right now it tells me it doesn't detect a device
[09:10] <skavenge> fyrestrtr: that was Crembo, not Masticore ;)
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> skavenge: oooh, lol -- whoops
[09:10] <skavenge> fyrestrtr: er GTX i mean, Masticore is asking about xgl
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> sorry Masticore
[09:10] <Masticore> heh np
[09:10] <Masticore> I got confused here xD
[09:10] <cassinho> fyrestrtr: check your privs
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> god it would just be simpler if people would change their nick to what their problem was about
[09:11] <skavenge> i dont know the answer but i thought i'd try and clarify ;)
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> privs just fine, thanks for asking though!
[09:11] <jozzeph> is anyone in the mood to help me just a little bit i cannot remove some self installed items...
[09:11] <sioux> hi boys who suggest me a good theme boot manager?
[09:11] <zeeeee> i figured out my problem - i need to remove all the non-lo devices from /etc/network/interfaces
[09:11] <jozzeph> hellanzb-0.9 i cannot remove
[09:12] <cassinho> lol fyrestrtr, i was the guy with the lilo/grub problem
[09:12] <cassinho> im on a live cd now
[09:12] <cassinho> it didn't work
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: what error did you get?
[09:12] <nexeus> hello is there  a way to retrieve deleted file on fat32 in linux Im using dual boot
[09:12] <jozzeph> what's the command for deleting a file it isn't remove or delete..
[09:12] <skavenge> jozzeph: rm
[09:12] <jozzeph> ok
[09:13] <cassinho> error: 12 invalid dev requested from booting windows and error 22: no such partition from booting linux
[09:13] <skavenge> jozzeph: alot of linux commands are simplified\shortened like that
[09:13] <jozzeph> and what with sudo rm? does that exist?
[09:13] <jozzeph> ok
[09:13] <ubuntufan> gnomefreak: are you sure it's back? it doesnt seem to here
[09:13] <vgoltser> which player can I use to broadcast through a shoutcast server?
[09:13] <skavenge> jozzeph: yup sudo rm works to, be careful on what your deleting though
[09:13] <wildman> vgoltser, xmms ?
[09:13] <jozzeph> ok going to try
[09:13] <vgoltser> wildman, ty
[09:13] <nexeus> !retrieve
[09:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about retrieve - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:13] <danf_1979> Is it just me or ubuntu servers are having problems? I get failed connection attempts while apt-getting
[09:14] <nexeus> !deleted
[09:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about deleted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:14] <cassinho> fuck im not used to this client, fyrestrtr did yoyu say something_
[09:14] <jozzeph> but isn't yup something connected to an application i wonder
[09:14] <cassinho> i closed this channel
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: try scribus
[09:14] <jozzeph> going to try
[09:14] <idefix> what does sgml stand for?
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: hrmm
[09:15] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: doesn't scribus use gimp for editing...oh well, nevermind that, trying Scribus...:)
[09:15] <Darkprince> is anybody familiar with playing world of warcraft via cedega?
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: I could have sworn I opened eps in gimp -- maybe I installed a plugin or something.
[09:15] <nexeus> hello is there  a way to retrieve deleted file on fat32 in linux Im using dual boot
[09:15] <jozzeph> hans@hans-46b0857b48:~$ yup sudo rm fff
[09:15] <jozzeph> bash: yup: command not found
[09:16] <Darkprince> nexeus, you have to mount that drive or partition
[09:16] <jozzeph> fff is the directory
[09:16] <idefix> Darkprince, once I've installed Wine can I join you?
[09:16] <Darkprince> idefix, sure
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: well, its difficult to figure this out, because you can try experimenting with the grub commands from the menu itself.
[09:16] <skavenge> jozzeph: what is 'yup' supposed to do?
[09:17] <Darkprince> idefix, i got WoW installed, and everything runs fine except when it try to actually load into the world, it freezes my cpu
[09:17] <ubuntufan> the security repositories should really get a mirror
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: on the grub menu, at the bottom, there are keys you can press to get to the grub prompt. I don't know why its not working, tbh.
[09:17] <cassinho> Ok, thx anyway, do you have any idea what it could be the trouble_
[09:17] <idefix> and you run Wine then too, right?
[09:17] <idefix> Darkprince
[09:17] <Darkprince> idefix, cedega actually... but i think it's a version of wine
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: well, I still suspect the device mapping is wrong for grub, and editing the device mapping file manually should sort this out (as this is something that trips grub frequently).
[09:18] <vgoltser> I got xmms ... what do I need to have it play a sound file to a shoutcast server?
[09:18] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: they're made with Illustrator 7
[09:18] <vgoltser> is there a plugin?
[09:18] <jozzeph> i tried to install hellanzb i think that was sort of unrar program for ubuntu 6.96 but it didn'd work and it left a directory i cannot remove in my home
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: there is a writeup on it at the grub reference site online -- let me fetch it.
[09:18] <idefix> what are sgml-files used for? they're kin to html right? what's the diff?
[09:18] <jozzeph> 6.06
[09:18] <sioux> hey boys what'r wiki ubuntu url?
[09:18] <OoberMick> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgml
[09:18] <cassinho> fyrestrtr: ok, what;s the name of the mapping file?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> idefix: sgml is the grand-daddy of html and xml and everything else derived from it.
[09:18] <skavenge> sioux: uh wiki.ubuntu.com ....
[09:19] <Fucty_> jozzeph look in your query window
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Device-map.html#Device-map
[09:19] <jozzeph> trying to understand
[09:19] <skavenge> jozzeph: well pull the yup out of there, and if its a dir and everything in it do 'sudo rm -rf fff'
[09:19] <jozzeph> ok
[09:20] <_BASO_> Hello, I have a problem with the PCMCIA cards, can anyone help?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: any luck with scribus?
[09:20] <skavenge> !anyone
[09:20] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:20] <jozzeph> it worked! thx a lot
[09:20] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: nope, just a red box
[09:21] <tmccrary> !gnomefreak
[09:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnomefreak - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:21] <cassinho> Hmmm from the live CD can i edit that file?
[09:21] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: like a red X as opposed to a Black X
[09:21] <darko> hi there. nice question here... want to know? :-)
[09:21] <Masticore> fyrestrtr: is this the one you followed? http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[09:21] <gnomefreak> tmccrary: what?
[09:21] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: I'm going to have to try it in *gulp* windows to see what's the dilly-o
[09:21] <_BASO_> my ubuntu can not recognize any PCMCIA Cards ...
[09:21] <grampajoe> When I try to configure akzenexplorer, I get the error message: "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes."  How would I get these X includes?
[09:21] <Bonez56> can someone please tell me what /dev/wacom is?
[09:21] <Darkprince> i have a question regarding Cedega
[09:21] <tmccrary> Tablet digitizer
[09:21] <tmccrary> wacom tablet
[09:22] <Bonez56> tmccrary: ahh as in pocketpc?
[09:22] <tmccrary> could be
[09:22] <tmccrary> or tablet pc, or just a general purpose tablet
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: email me the file if its not sensitive. email is mynick@gmail.com
[09:22] <Fucty_> Bonez56, wacom is an input device
[09:22] <tmccrary> like usb based
[09:22] <skavenge> wacom tablet are for drawing with a pen
[09:22] <skavenge> its not another system
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> grampajoe: install the x development packages.
[09:22] <Bonez56> i've been playing with my system and now x wont start. i have no idea what I changed in regards to X, and i've restored all changes.
[09:22] <Bonez56> where is the best place to look for logs etc?
[09:22] <Cyorxamp> Ok, I (think) have my ati drivers installed... but when I play a large video (like a TV episode/movie) fullscreen on totem or VLC... it doesn't play so well :S
[09:22] <Bonez56> i looked at /var/log/Xorg.1.log
[09:22] <A[D] minS> !mount
[09:22] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:22] <technel> So if cmd > file puts the results of cmd in file, how do I just get it to append the results of cmd to the end of file?
[09:22] <Bonez56> but the only errors I see are wacom related
[09:22] <Fucty_> Bonez56, /var/log
[09:23] <tmccrary> !sexytime
[09:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about sexytime - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:23] <skavenge> Bonez56: ~/.xsession-errors maybe
[09:23] <Bonez56> skavenge: thanks ill look there
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> Cyorxamp: what does the output of fglrxinfo give you?
[09:23] <miguelv06> hello does any one can teach me how to install windows and ubuntoin the same computer
[09:23] <Fucty_> maybe you got a wacom entry which is empty or smth. look in your xorg.conf, Bonez56
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> technel: cmd >> file
[09:23] <Velorium> miguellv06: i can, i'll PM you
[09:23] <technel> fyrestrtr, Ah, thanks
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> miguelv06: install windows first, then simply follow the ubuntu install as normal, it will set it up for you.
[09:24] <Cyorxamp> fyrestrtr, lots of things... one sec...i'm gonna connect to irc on that pc instead
[09:24] <asdfmaster2000> I'm having massive problems with ndiswrapper + asus a8v-e deluxe onboard wifi-g (AMD-64).  Everything works (am able to successfully install the drivers) but no device, re: wlan0 ever shows up.
[09:24] <asdfmaster2000> *never
[09:24] <Nox2k3> Is there any way to tell if Azureus has finished starting if I disabled the splash screen, and told it to start up in systray only.
[09:24] <Cyorxamp> xubuntu really ought to come with an irc client :S
[09:24] <_BASO_> [ 3598.250352]  cs: unable to map card memory!
[09:24] <_BASO_> /var/log/messages
[09:24] <diese> hello everyone when i type make i get bash: make: command not fount.  why is this?
[09:24] <Nox2k3> If it doesn't show up in the system tray.
[09:24] <Bonez56> hrrrrm.... nothing in .xsession-errors
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> Nox2k3: double click on it?
[09:25] <asdfmaster2000> I'm having massive problems with ndiswrapper + asus a8v-e deluxe onboard wifi-g (AMD-64).  Everything works (am able to successfully install the drivers) but no device, re: wlan0 never shows up, i've tired ndiswrapper -m and so forth
[09:25] <Bonez56> gdm is running
[09:25] <miguelv06> umm when i install windows should i use the full size or just a part
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> !build-essential > diese
[09:25] <Nox2k3> diese: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:25] <_BASO_>  what does this mean ? [ 3598.250352]  cs: unable to map card memory!
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> miguelv06: just use a part of the hard drive.
[09:25] <Darkprince> are wine and cedega the same thing?
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> !repeat
[09:25] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:25] <Nox2k3> fyrestrtr: I have told it to start, and its apparently running, but I have no system tray applet nor do I have a taskbar entry, nor do I have a program in front of me.
[09:25] <grampajoe> fyrestrtr: Which packages are the x dev packages?  I have libx11-dev installed, are there any else?
[09:25] <cga_afk> !midi
[09:25] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: not really. cedega is wine that is tweaked for gaming.
[09:25] <Nox2k3> But thats probably because systray is still refusing to work.
[09:26] <_BASO_> !pcmcia
[09:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about pcmcia - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:26] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: done...and done!
[09:26] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, but i shouldn't have any problems running WoW with cedega?
[09:26] <Fucty_> Darkprince, no, cedega is wine with dirctx emulation and is non-free
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> grampajoe: there are a few. search for them (apt-cache search)
[09:26] <uiaenrtd> !patience
[09:26] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:26] <Cyorxamp> hey fyrestrtr ... can I PM the output?
[09:26] <sioux> boys how can I add a image on grub?
[09:26] <Nox2k3> Is there a way to see which package a file belongs to?
[09:26] <_BASO_> please help [ 3598.250352]  cs: unable to map card memory! - var/log/messages log ...
[09:26] <uiaenrtd> !irc
[09:26] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:26] <Darkprince> Fucty_, "non-free" being a very loose term these days
[09:26] <miguelv06> so do i have to make two partions but ntfs? one for windws and the other one for linux?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Nox2k3: dbpgk -L file (I think)
[09:27] <Nox2k3> awesome
[09:27] <uiaenrtd> !dualboot
[09:27] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: you can, login to wine cvs, get cedega from source and compile it.
[09:27] <Cyorxamp> fyrestrtr?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Cyorxamp: yes?
[09:27] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, i've already got cedega
[09:27] <Nox2k3> Incorrect, I guess I'm going to have to do it the hard way.
[09:27] <abhinay> hi there
[09:27] <Cyorxamp> mind if I pm the output of fglrxinfo? it's only 4 lines?
[09:27] <asdfmaster2000> I'm having massive problems with ndiswrapper + asus a8v-e deluxe onboard wifi-g (AMD-64).  Everything works (am able to successfully install the drivers) but no device, re: wlan0 never shows up, i've tired ndiswrapper -m and so forth
[09:27] <Nox2k3> God forbid I rtfm...
[09:27] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, im just having problems actually playing WoW with it
[09:27] <Velorium> i'm having some issues with being able to install ndiswrapper. i followed the directions listed here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation but i'm lost when i get to "compile and install"
[09:28] <Bonez56> Does anyone know how to fix this error? (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom No such file or directory.
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Cyorxamp: pastebin it please, easier.
[09:28] <miguelv06> do i have to ntfs partition or just one with half of the hard drive
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: ask in #winehq
[09:28] <skavenge> Velorium: ndiswrapper comes in the repos you dont need to compile it
[09:28] <Nox2k3> Bonez56: Do you have a wacom tablet?
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Bonez56: remove the wacom stuff from /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:28] <Bonez56> Nox2k3: nope
[09:28] <Bonez56> fyrestrtr: ok ill give that a go
[09:28] <Nox2k3> Its safe to ignore that error then
[09:28] <Velorium> skavenge: the repos? sorry, i just installed ubuntu last night, i've never used linux before
[09:29] <Cyorxamp> fyrestrtr, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18799
[09:29] <_BASO_>  what does this mean ? [ 3598.250352]  cs: unable to map card memory! I have a problems with PCMCIA Cards in laptop
[09:29] <skavenge> Velorium: 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper' should work
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: you emailed it?
[09:30] <Gullstad> Lenge leve Rasmus Lerdorf.
[09:30] <Nox2k3> fyrestrtr: dpkg -S
[09:30] <Velorium> skavenge: ok, i'll boot into ubuntu and see what happens
[09:30] <abhinay> i use gdm to login, when i enter my username & password ,it is comming out again to gdm, but , if i login as root in gdm it is logging in perfectly... why is tat ?
[09:30] <Nox2k3> (search)
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> Cyorxamp: you are not using ati's drivers. Are you on xgl?
[09:30] <_BASO_> how can I increase this? [ 3598.250352]  cs: unable to map card memory!
[09:30] <_BASO_> warning: no high memory space available!
[09:30] <Velorium> skavenge: if i don't need to be connected to the internet in the first place anyways
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> _BASO_: stop freakin' repeating.
[09:30] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: yessir it's called "EPS files" from "dafontster_at_hotmail_dot_com"
[09:30] <_BASO_> How can I increase high memory?
[09:30] <Cyorxamp> fyrestrtr, well I used easyUbuntu... then to be sure I got the ati drivers manually and installed them
[09:30] <skavenge> Velorium: its on the install cd
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: to which email? fyrestrtr@gmail.com ?
[09:30] <Cyorxamp> fyrestrtr, I ought to be on the ati proprietary drivers... xorg.conf certainly mentions fglrx
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> Cyorxamp: uh oh - lol
[09:31] <_BASO_> fyrestrtr: I thought no one could hear me?!
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> !patience
[09:31] <bilss_> hi
[09:31] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: lol, the one you gave me, :P mynick@gmail.com or something like that
[09:31] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:31] <skavenge> Velorium: put the cd in and 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils'
[09:31] <Cyorxamp> fyrestrtr, uh oh!?
[09:31] <Velorium> skavenge: ok, so i just pop in the CD after i boot into ubuntu, do that command in terminal and i should be good?
[09:31] <uiaenrtd> miguelv06:
[09:31] <uiaenrtd> !dualboot
[09:31] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: lol I didn't mean literally 'mynick' I meant, my nick on irc @ gmail.com
[09:31] <skavenge> Velorium: yes after that ndiswrapper should be there, then you install your windows drivers in it like usual on any of the install pages
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: in other words -- fyrestrtr@gmail.com :)
[09:32] <[cro] smiley> what does it mean: make[1] : Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
[09:32] <[cro] smiley>  when building application?
[09:32] <bilss_> if i add rep.bliss.net as a subdomain is rep the "localpart" ?
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> Cyorxamp: you should have gotten something like this
[09:32] <Masticore> where can I find the best ati drivers out there?
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[09:32] <grampajoe> Alright what does this mean: "checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!"
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> Masticore: www.ati.com
[09:32] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: lol, whoops, looks like "mynick@gmail.com" is getting an email he didn't quite expect :P
[09:32] <skavenge> Velorium: i suggest using the instructions for ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:33] <Cyorxamp> fyrestrtr, well I installed the ati drivers and it told me to run aticonfig (which Idon't know how to use... the last I used was fglrxconfig)
[09:33] <Cyorxamp> what happened to it!?
[09:33] <Aerayatur> hi, I need some advice: halt does reboot instead of powering down
[09:33] <Velorium> skavenge: alright, thank you! do i need anything else to get wireless working properly? i've seen notations of something called firestarter, would i need that?
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> Cyorxamp: read the wiki entry !ati
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> !ati
[09:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:34] <rambo3> when is $PATH updated when editing /etc/profile . do i need to reboot ?
[09:34] <skavenge> Velorium: firestarter is the firewall setup program, you should be able to get wireless working without touching that .. just follow the ubuntu instructions, thats how i got my ndiswrapper working
[09:34] <A[D] minS> what i have to insert into  /etc/fstab  to access users to write to disk?
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> Aerayatur: you have problems with your apic (or is it acpi) support.
[09:34] <Aerayatur> I did twaek my init process a bit but dont know what I did wrong... from my side is should work
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> rambo3: souce /etc/profile
[09:34] <wildman> source, not souce :)
[09:34] <wildman> bloody typos...
[09:34] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: ok, *now* it's done..and done!
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> aye,
[09:34] <diese> isn't there something i can type it that will be auto-replaced with my kernel?
[09:34] <Aerayatur> fyrestrtr: I did a acpi=force in kernel
[09:34] <Velorium> skavenge: ok thanks, next time i come in here i'll hope to be on ubuntu =)
[09:34] <skavenge> Velorium: there will be some networking commands after ndiswrapper and the drivers are installed but they are all listen in the link
[09:35] <Aerayatur> fyrestrtr> did not help
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: lol no attachments :P
[09:35] <ketilkn> Where can I find what module / driver my hds are using? I am having trouble booting up a vanilla kernel. Ubuntu kernel works fine.
[09:35] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: there should be
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> ketilkn: dmesg should help
[09:35] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: ok, I'm not like 10 years old, I'm just having a bad day :P
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: there aren't :)
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> you sure about that? lol
[09:36] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: yeah, 10 year olds are prolly smarter than I am :P
[09:36] <ketilkn> In the old days one could use /proc/pci where did /proc/pci go ?
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> ketilkn: lspci -vv
[09:36] <aigarius> hei, guys. I have a working instalation of NM here on Ubuntu Dapper. nm-applet recognises ipw2200 card, but does not display the ipw3945 card on the same hardware and software configuration. Where do I enable that?
[09:36] <jaras> does anyone how to get monodevelop 0.11 ?
[09:36] <ketilkn> fyrestrtr, thanks
[09:37] <diese> isnt there something i can type in that will be auto-replaced with my kernel?
[09:37] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: third times a charm.....
[09:37] <skavenge> (uname -r)
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> diese: `uname -r`
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: there we go :)
[09:38] <[cro] smiley> is 57 C normal temperatur for laptop processor?
[09:38] <trappist> is security.ubuntu.com down still/again?
[09:39] <aigarius> [cro] smiley: yes, that looks fine.
[09:39] <ddonky> crimsun - can you help me with my audio cd probs?
[09:39] <crimsun> ddonky: not sure, you haven't described it
[09:40] <jbroome> trappist: it's up but slow
[09:40] <helpmemysql> u
[09:40] <wildman> very nice an idiot banned me from ubuntu-es...
[09:40] <Gullstad> wildman: Probly for a reason.
[09:40] <wildman> idiot, if you are here, please feel free to ban me from here too so I cannot help anyone else. thank you.
[09:40] <wildman> Gullstad, because he's having a bad day probably.
[09:41] <diese> fyrestrtr: so would this work: lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> diese: yes
[09:41] <ddonky> crimsun - when i open them with juicer i get error message:"Reason: could not get/settings from/on resource" and "Internal data flow error" I try to open them with Totem, I get this error: 'error accessing 'cdda:///dev/hdc': Invalid URI'
[09:42] <TokenBad> is there a way in ubuntu to store your email info for evolution?
[09:42] <wildman> Gullstad, I guess that person doesn't like competition...
[09:42] <wildman> Gullstad, anyway... time to go back to work ;)
[09:43] <wildman> have a nice one people!
[09:44] <ddonky> crimsun -  tail | dmesg returns a bunch of lines of this: cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[09:44] <crimsun> ddonky: does cdparanoia work?
[09:44] <alephant> Hey all...
[09:44] <ddonky> crimsun - never tried it, it's cli right?
[09:44] <alephant> I've got a newly-installed 6.06 client that can't talk to an existing- and working Samba server
[09:44] <rbond> Hello Everyone. <QUESTION> Does anyone know of a way that I can set my volume up and down keys  on the keyboard to higher and lower the volume on all speakers. What is happening right now is that I can lower and raise the volume, but only on the front speakers
[09:45] <alephant> smbclient -d 3 -L \\\\WORKGROUP\\SERVER indicates that the last thing tried before giving up is WINS resolution and then broadcast, both non-responsive
[09:45] <alephant> Any thoughts on troubleshooting this?
[09:45] <cassinho> fyrestrtr: dude, i just found out something that could fix my boot loader problem, do you have a second?
[09:45] <OoberMick> rbond: You using gnome?
[09:46] <crimsun> ddonky: yes, just see if it can rip the first track from an audio cd
[09:46] <Ronz> this isn't a linux question...but can you tie cat5 cable into cat5e?
[09:46] <Pinch> use a switch
[09:46] <Pinch> or hub
[09:46] <bbrazil> Ronz: tie?
[09:46] <abhinay> wich graphics card (i810,vesa,vga,s3,....wich one) should i select for p4 processor, intel motherboard ???
[09:46] <rbond> OoberMick: Yes. Dapper
[09:47] <cd_rom> cassinho: what's up with your boot loader?
[09:47] <bbrazil> abhinay: lspci, that should tell you
[09:47] <Ronz> bbrazil, can i connect a cat5 cable to cat5e cable?
[09:47] <Pinch> Ronz use a switch or a hub
[09:47] <Ronz> so i dont have to run new wire
[09:47] <bbrazil> Ronz: you can, but you'll lose quality
[09:47] <cassinho> cd_rom: i have a trouble with grub, it doesn't want to boot my os even when seems to be all alright
[09:47] <abhinay> bbrazil, i can not understand it - lspci ?
[09:47] <fogos> someone remember a package for see how space of hard disk .. take specific folder
[09:48] <Ronz> will it be noticable bbrazil ? i know i would lose some
[09:48] <bbrazil> abhinay: run it in a terminal
[09:48] <OoberMick> rbond: right-click volume control icon and click preferences. From there you can choose the channel that you control. Fiddle with that until you can get what you want
[09:48] <cd_rom> cassinho: too generic, be specific
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: I think I got it :)
[09:48] <bbrazil> Ronz: how are you palnning on connecting them?
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> tristanmike: give me a few seconds.
[09:48] <Pinch> scotch tape!
[09:48] <cassinho> if i try to load winxp it says, error 12: invalid device requested, if i try linyux i says error 22: no such partition
[09:48] <abhinay> bbrazil, then
[09:48] <Ronz> bbrazil, with a wall plug
[09:48] <cassinho> fyrestrtr:  and i were wroking on it and the grub thing seems to be as it should
[09:48] <bbrazil> Ronz: sorry, what kind of wall plug?
[09:48] <tristanmike> fyrestrtr: yeah, that's great, i'm just downstairs, so if I don't respond right away, I will uber-shortly
[09:48] <abhinay> bbrazil, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[09:49] <Ronz> bbrazil, we always called them an "orange plug"
[09:49] <abhinay> bbrazil, 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 01)
[09:49] <cd_rom> cassinho: how many partitions do yo have in your hard disk?
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> cassinho: so what did you find out?
[09:49] <cyorxamp> hey fyrestrtr ... I did everything asked of me and it still comes up with the same info
[09:49] <cassinho> the only way it works is if i boot with the CD and tell him to "boot the first hard drive", then it goes all right
[09:49] <jvai> hey sup ppl
[09:49] <bbrazil> abhinay: I *think* that's the i810 - couldn't swear to it
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> cyorxamp: what ?
[09:49] <grampajoe> Does anyone know where I could get a package that's on security.ubuntu.com since it's down right now apparently?
[09:49] <OoberMick> cassinho: do you have multiple hard drives?
[09:49] <cassinho> that what i found out, if i boot the CD and tell the CD to boot with my boot loader, it does it allright
[09:49] <bbrazil> Ronz: as far as I'm concerned a wall plug is what you put in a hole drilled in a wall to hold a screw
[09:50] <cyorxamp> fyrestrtr, I did everything on that wiki page ans fglrxinfo hasn't changed
[09:50] <ketetha_>  hey guys ineed help getting compiz and aiglx off my cmoptuer because i dont have minizmize or maximize buttons
[09:50] <narfmaster> grampajoe, try archive.ubuntu.com
[09:50] <cassinho> yeah i have 2 HD, 1 IDE and 1 SATA
[09:50] <cassinho> The IDE is just storage
[09:50] <ketetha_> like thre is no top bar that usually has the title and then the buttons. and im in a pickle and need them
[09:50] <abhinay> bbrazil, i did select tat , but iam not getting 800x600 85Hz (getting low freq.)
[09:50] <Ronz> bbrazil, its the piece that plugs into the wall piece. a small rectangular piece
[09:50] <Ronz> *plug
[09:50] <bbrazil> Ronz: rj45?
[09:50] <OoberMick> cassinho: sounds like your bios and grub don't agree on the order of the disks
[09:50] <cd_rom> cassinho: what the first parittion of your hard disk contains? linux or windows?
[09:51] <Ronz> it splits the twisted pairs, and you plug an rj45 into it
[09:51] <Pinch> oooohhh the small rectangular piece, piece
[09:51] <bbrazil> Ronz: a female rj45 wall socket?
[09:51] <abhinay> !xorg
[09:51] <Ronz> yes bbrazil =)
[09:51] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:51] <cd_rom> cassinho: better yet, paste or type in error that you received when you attemtp to boot in linux?
[09:51] <bbrazil> Ronz: so you've got cat5 running up to it and cat5e coming from it?
[09:51] <cassinho> Error 22: No Such Partition
[09:52] <_BASO_> please HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ubuntu can not see my pCMCIA Cards...
[09:52] <ddonky> crimsun - it's 'trying' to extract but it seems stuck at time 0:00.
[09:52] <crimsun> ddonky: and you've verified the drive works in another OS?
[09:52] <Ronz> thats right bbrazil . the cat5 cable got torn, and im gonna need to cut it, but can't run the cat5e
[09:52] <cd_rom> cassinho: yeah, but it's like root(hd0,<something>)
[09:52] <dli> _BASO_, do you have it in " lspci "?
[09:52] <cassinho> hd1 is boot, hd1,1 is my linux root, hd1,0 is my winxp partition
[09:53] <_BASO_> dli: what is lspci?
[09:53] <cd_rom> cassinho: :so you are in windoze or linux?
[09:53] <bbrazil> Ronz: I've used 10m of soldered cat5 at 100MBps
[09:53] <cassinho> hd0 is the ide hdd that it's just for windows storage
[09:53] <cassinho> right now im on linux
[09:53] <bbrazil> Ronz: so I wouldn't worry too much
[09:53] <cassinho> but my grub seems not to work
[09:53] <dli> _BASO_, in a terminal, type: lspci
[09:53] <Ronz> awesome. ty bbrazil
[09:53] <ddonky> well not another OS, but it works fine with dvds and dvdrs, and it writes cdrs and dvdrs.
[09:53] <cassinho> it just works if i command him to from CD
[09:53] <ddonky> crimsun - not another OS, but it works fine with dvds and dvdrs, and it writes cdrs and dvdrs.
[09:54] <lampshade> How do I remove a symbolic link once I've created it?
[09:54] <cassinho> 15:50:48) OoberMick: cassinho: sounds like your bios and grub don't agree on the order of the disks <= this seems to be true tho
[09:54] <sjbrown> anyone know if there's a "good" way to change a uid?
[09:54] <TokenBad> please is there a way in ubuntu to store your email info for evolution?
[09:54] <cd_rom> cassinho: sudo df
[09:54] <OoberMick> cassinho: check /boot/grub/device.map agrees
[09:54] <narfmaster> lampshade, rm it
[09:54] <cd_rom> in terminal
[09:54] <sjbrown> besides dropping the user and creating a new one?
[09:54] <bbrazil> sjbrown: usermod has an option for it
[09:54] <MarcN> TokenBad: what do you mean? A local copy of your email?  Use pop3 to pull down your email.
[09:54] <_BASO_> dli: yes , it is listed there CardBus bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems ToPIC97
[09:54] <bbrazil> sjbrown: use find+xargs+chown to fix up ownerships
[09:54] <OoberMick> cassinho: er  ...with real life. I.e what drive is master which is slave
[09:54] <sjbrown> thanks
[09:55] <TokenBad> I want to do a clean install of kubuntu since got install cd but I want to backup my emails and my address book and my folder setups...
[09:55] <cassinho> ? lol
[09:55] <Ronz> if i install a program from source, how do i uninstall it if it does not show up in apt or synaptic?
[09:55] <dli> _BASO_, then, insert your card, do lspci again
[09:55] <MarcN> TokenBad:  backup all of /home and you will be fine.
[09:55] <cd_rom> lol cassinho
[09:55] <ai`> Hi.  I came in here about a month ago asking for information about the Mac version of ubuntu.  I ordered the live cd from shipit and just got it in the mail today.  However, it appears that it's having a very curious problem, the same problem I had when I actually downloaded the ISO proper: it's truncating long filenames.  Anyone have any idea what might be going on?
[09:55] <cd_rom> cassinho: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1525823
[09:55] <narfmaster> Ronz sudo make uninstall <-- may not work
[09:55] <Ronz> thanks pinky...i mean narf
[09:55] <ai`> If the filename is longer than 32 characters, the CD appears to silently hack off the end of the name.
[09:56] <TokenBad> MarcN, but I run normal ubuntu now...will the same programs work for kubuntu?
[09:56] <cassinho> cd_rom: what do you want from sudo df?
[09:56] <cassinho> i just did it
[09:56] <narfmaster> Ronz, no problem narf
[09:56] <cd_rom> cassinho: can you pastebin your '/etc/fstab'?
[09:56] <bbrazil> ai`: are you using mkisofs?
[09:56] <Ronz> TokenBad, the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is gnome and KDE
[09:56] <MarcN> TokenBad: yes, just install the evolution package afterwards
[09:56] <grampajoe> Is anyone familiar with using Creative Zen mp3 players in Linux?  I can't get Gnomad or Kzenexplorer to recognize my Zen Vision:M, I had the same problem in Windows
[09:56] <Ronz> TokenBad, and yes, you can get kde apps to work with gnome, and vice versa
[09:56] <cassinho> cd_rom:  can i talk to you in a private msg? all this chatting get me lost
[09:56] <ai`> bbrazil: I'm afraid I don't know.  How can I check?
[09:56] <Psychobudgie> grampajoe:  update the firmware
[09:56] <bbrazil> grampajoe: I'm got a Creative Zen here. Gnomad works as long as it's running as root
[09:56] <ronny> hola
[09:56] <lampshade> Also, are there any package managers out there that work better with .rar's, etc than the default archive manager, mine seems to choke a lot even though I have the unfree version of unrar installed?
[09:56] <cd_rom> cassinho: good idea
[09:57] <cd_rom> go ahead
[09:57] <ronny> alquin de venezuela?
[09:57] <bbrazil> ai`: is this a straight download+burn from the website?
[09:57] <_BASO_> dli: it is a same list
[09:57] <Psychobudgie> grampajoe:  got a zen micro here, works fine when I update the firmware
[09:57] <OoberMick> cassinho: Did you check /boot/grub/device.map this is where grub matches hd0 -> hda , you can change this so that it is correct
[09:57] <ronny> alguien habla espaol
[09:57] <ddonky> crimsun - i have a knoppix 4 cd, i'll try it, i don't have windows or mac on this computer.
[09:57] <dli> _BASO_, okay, you need the driver for pcmcia, let me find the module name
[09:57] <Ronz> un poco...que necesitas?
[09:58] <santa99> he guys fixed up my printer problem, but now i have another question. Is there the Borland Builder also for ubuntu ?
[09:58] <pike_> lampshade: you can always install wine and run winrar
[09:58] <narfmaster> ronny, en #ubuntu-es por favor
[09:58] <bbrazil> santa99: use gcc I guess
[09:58] <ronny> gracias
[09:58] <ai`> bbrazil: It's the livecd I ordered off shipit.ubuntu.com.  It's a silver CD and not burnt from an ISO, although when I did burn it from the ISO myself I had the same problem.
[09:58] <grampajoe> Ok, thanks, I'll try updating the firmware
[09:58] <_BASO_> dli: please check the private chat window...
[09:58] <ddonky> crimsun - ps, i tried cdparanoia in verbose mode, and there are no errors or anything, it just stops at 'outputting to cdda.wav'
[09:58] <bbrazil> ai`: what OS are you on?
[09:58] <ai`> (This was why I'd ordered the silver CD in the first place -- I thought I'd borked up the ISO file in the process of trying to burn it.)
[09:59] <grampajoe> But I need to go over to Windows for that, so g'night
[09:59] <ai`> bbrazil: OSX 10.4.
[09:59] <technel> Is there a linux command that just would wipe out the contents of a file, such as a log file that I don't want to delete?
[09:59] <gabriel> hola
[09:59] <trappist> technel: echo "" > filename
[09:59] <bbrazil> ai`: hmm. You see filenames longer than 32 chars are an extension. Is is possible that OSX doesn't support them
[09:59] <technel> trappist, Eh, I suppose that would work, thank you
[09:59] <tuxtux> !dc++
[09:59] <cassinho> cd_rom: you there?
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about dc++ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:59] <bbrazil> ai`: can you try it in windows/linux?
[09:59] <gabriel> como se ocupa el amsn+
[09:59] <OoberMick> technel: cat /dev/null > filename
[10:00] <technel> Or that.
[10:00] <bbrazil> ai`: actually - is this the standard Ubuntu desktop CD, I can check it here
[10:00] <santa99> bbrazil: i mean the jbuilder
[10:00] <cd_rom> cassinho: yes,
[10:00] <ddonky> crimsun - dmesg | tail now says 'cdrom: dropping to single frame dma'
[10:00] <vgoltser> what player can I use that will connect to a shoutcast server (to stream stuff to the server)
[10:00] <bbrazil> santa99: probably not. What does it do? there's probably an equivilent program
[10:00] <cassinho> OoberMick: can we talk in pm?
[10:00] <cd_rom> cassinho: just click on my name
[10:00] <santa99> bbrazil: a IDE for java
[10:01] <crimsun> ddonky: sounds like a dirty/scratched disc
[10:01] <OoberMick> cassinho: sure
[10:01] <narfmaster> vgoltser, most players handle playing shoutcast no problem
[10:01] <pike_> vgoltser: install  streamtuner and xmms
[10:01] <bbrazil> santa99: try eclipse
[10:01] <vgoltser> narf, not play shoutcast to output to shoutcast
[10:01] <pike_> vgoltser: ach server nm
[10:01] <narfmaster> vgoltser, what pike_ said
[10:01] <vgoltser> but I found a plugin for xmms ...
[10:01] <santa99> bbrazil: ok
[10:01] <narfmaster> hehe
[10:01] <dli> _BASO_, do: sudo modprobe yenta_socket
[10:01] <ai`> bbrazil: Yeah.  It'll take me a few minutes to go hunt down a laptop, but sure.
[10:01] <ai`> bbrazil: Yeah.
[10:01] <ai`> It reads "Version 6.06 LTS for your Mac" on the front -- I assume that's current.
[10:01] <bbrazil> santa99: I have heard some terrible things said about it though
[10:01] <bbrazil> ai`: ah, Mac version
[10:02] <ddonky> crimsun - i wish, i've tried many commercial audio cds and burned cdrs
[10:02] <jvai_> back ppl
[10:02] <santa99> bbrazil, said about what ?
[10:02] <bbrazil> ai`: santa99 eclipse
[10:02] <bbrazil> santa99: ^
[10:02] <bbrazil> ai`: boot it and look at the fs
[10:02] <ddonky> how do i check if dma is turned on?
[10:02] <santa99> bbrazil, yeah tryed it before it is really ugly and hard use it
[10:02] <cassinho> OoberMick: can you read my pm or they dont deliver to you?
[10:02] <ketilkn> santa99, As bbrazil said, try eclipse. There used to be a jbuilder for linux back in 2001, but I stopped using it after using it for half a year. Check borlands homepage if you need jbuilder
[10:03] <narfmaster> ai`, did you format your partitions for linux with ext3 format?
[10:03] <p1nger> is anyone on here running a apache webserver on their box?
[10:03] <bbrazil> p1nger: just ask your question
[10:03] <ai`> Ah, forgive me, I'm having connection issues.
[10:03] <p1nger> i am wondering how to issue commands to it via terminal
[10:03] <crimsun> ddonky: it sounds like cdparanoia is just having a really, really difficult time using DAE with that drive
[10:03] <OoberMick> cassinho: I'm new to irssi so it might be turned off?
[10:03] <ketilkn> Santa99, I know Borland dropped support for Mac OS X.
[10:03] <crimsun> ddonky: hdparm -d /dev/hdc
[10:04] <livingdaylight> why is the partitioner in dapper's installer impossible?
[10:04] <_BASO_> dli: I have done, ..
[10:04] <dli> _BASO_, do lspci again
[10:04] <livingdaylight> just installed Dapper but could NOT partition my hard drive
[10:04] <bbrazil> crimsun: OoberMick ye two know that freenode has filtering on PMs to stop spamming?
[10:04] <OoberMick> bbrazil: nope
[10:04] <p1nger> does anyone know the main apache command for terminal?
[10:04] <dli> livingdaylight, try gparted
[10:04] <crimsun> bbrazil: huh?
[10:05] <livingdaylight> NO, i do NOT want to dedicate all 160gb to dapper, common
[10:05] <vgoltser> exit
[10:05] <bbrazil> crimsun: bah, bad tab complete
[10:05] <vgoltser> exit
[10:05] <Flannel> p1nger: what you looking to do?
[10:05] <dli> p1nger, you mean to start apache? sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:05] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, you can just use gparted first, then run the installer
[10:05] <livingdaylight> dli: yea, but common, this is the 3rd or 4th release, can't they figurre this thing out by now?
[10:05] <ketilkn> p1nger, You can use apache2ctl  or apachectl for version 1.3
[10:05] <_BASO_> dli: same list again
[10:06] <bbrazil> OoberMick: looks like cassinho isn't identified. That would stop you from receiving his messages
[10:06] <dli> _BASO_, couldn't see your card in lspci?
[10:06] <crimsun> livingdaylight: do you mean the graphical installer?
[10:06] <Masticore> Any good Bluetooth manager out there ?
[10:06] <livingdaylight> crimsun: yes,
[10:06] <santa99> ketilkn, used jbuilder on windows before and i get really used to it i will look if I find something helpful
[10:06] <livingdaylight> narfmaster: too late now
[10:06] <dli> _BASO_, sudo modprobe pcmcia
[10:06] <crimsun> livingdaylight: dapper is the first release that has a graphical installer.
[10:06] <OoberMick> bbrazil: Oh right cheers
[10:06] <livingdaylight> the point is the partitioner in breezy was easier than in Dapper
[10:07] <crimsun> livingdaylight: did you use the alternate installer?
[10:07] <ketilkn> santa99, http://www.borland.com/downloads/download_jbuilder.html    :)
[10:07] <technician> and when i add by myself i get this error
 2006/07/25 04:06:01| parseConfigFile: line 2936 unrecognized: 'httpd_accel_port 80'
 2006/07/25 04:06:01| parseConfigFile: line 2937 unrecognized: 'httpd_accel_host virtual'
 2006/07/25 04:06:01| parseConfigFile: line 2938 unrecognized: 'httpd_accel_with_proxy on'
 2006/07/25 04:06:01| parseConfigFile: line 2939 unrecognized: 'httpd_accel_uses_host_header on '
[10:07] <livingdaylight> crimsun: it was impossible for me to designate Easily x amount to root and label it primary or logical
[10:07] <Masticore> Any good Bluetooth and IR manager in apt-get ?
[10:07] <Flannel> livingdaylight: you can use the old style installation via the alternate CD
[10:08] <santa99> ketilkn, yeah saw it right before :)
[10:08] <lampshade> Does anyone know how to make Archive manager able to open passworded .rar files (I have the non free unrar installed)?  I got nothing and this is just annoying to click a file and then have it stall EVERY time and complain about a bad password without letting me type it in
[10:08] <livingdaylight> Flannel: what?
[10:08] <narfmaster> !info lirc
[10:08] <santa99> lampshade, download rar
[10:08] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.7.1pre2-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 271 kB, installed size 1440 kB
[10:08] <lampshade> santa99: I did
[10:08] <santa99> lampshade, sorry don't saw the passworded
[10:08] <livingdaylight> Flannel: i got no alternate cd. i used the one Canonical sent out
[10:08] <Flannel> livingdaylight: if you download the alternate CD, instead of the desktop CD, you have the textmode installer, just as it was in older versions
[10:08] <santa99> lampshade,  sorry no idea
[10:09] <Gorlist> Evening!
[10:09] <tsume> heres a whooper
[10:09] <livingdaylight> Flannel: ok, well i didn't know. The point is why release this cd with graphical installer if partitioning is a nightmare?!
[10:09] <robertj> any clue why neither gnome vfs nor kio slaves for ftp can see the contents of this ftp site but Firefox can?
[10:09] <tsume> how does a non hp printer communicate over the ntework?
[10:09] <Gorlist> trying to install a game called Eternal Lands (http://www.eternal-lands.com)
[10:09] <_BASO_> dli: no result ..
[10:09] <tsume> I'm rather missing something or don't have all the information
[10:09] <narfmaster> lampshade, rar -x -p[password] 
[10:09] <Gorlist> when I run: sudo ./el-130.x86.linux.bin in the terminal
[10:09] <narfmaster> lampshade, that is: rar x -p[password] 
[10:09] <_BASO_> dli: kernel: [ 2554.763716]  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 1
[10:09] <ketilkn> santa99, do not forget to try Eclipse. It is free software. I find it easier to use than jBuilder. (Without being very experienced in either).
[10:10] <Flannel> livingdaylight: well, someone screwed up by not sending the alternate CDs, as they used to.  Because those desktop ISOs can't be used to upgrade either.
[10:10] <dli> _BASO_, then, lspci should show something
[10:10] <Gorlist> it comes up with:   ./el-130.x86.linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libcal3d.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:10] <Gorlist> what does this mean?
[10:10] <tsume> Flannel: yeah... :(
[10:10] <_BASO_> dli: but after that it says kernel: [ 2554.763769]  cs: unable to map card memory!
[10:10] <strongy> hi is there somebody who can tell me something about  Compiling a normal installer?
[10:10] <tsume> Flannel: what I noticed about it, because I was handing most of my cds out to admins with servers
[10:10] <strongy> like lame.tar.bz
[10:10] <dli> _BASO_, what's the card?
[10:10] <tsume> Flannel: they need to have a selection, "Desktop or Server cds" on the shippit
[10:11] <dli> strongy, you'd better use lame in repository
[10:11] <lampshade> narfmaster: see, the problem with that is the whole command line, not that I'm afraid of it, but it seems freaking silly to have a huge frontend like archive manager and then have to simply fall back to command line to do anything.  that's really dumb and I know there is a solution around this.. somewhere so I can just click type password and bam have the file I clicked on extracted
[10:11] <_BASO_> dli: it is network adapter, but I have another one, also the Modem Pcmica and it is same an all of them..
[10:11] <santa99> ketilkn, ok will have a look for it
[10:11] <Flannel> tsume: eh, they'll never send out server ISOs, Although from the alternate, you can install a server install.  Although without the LAMP preinstall
[10:11] <narfmaster> lampshade, sorry but that's the only way i know to do it
[10:11] <dli> _BASO_, which model of the NIC card?
[10:12] <skavenge> lampshade: who passwords rars anyway? you a pirate or something?
[10:12] <_BASO_> dli: it is SMC
[10:12] <ketilkn> Note to self. Remove quiet from kernel boot options when you get kernel panic and save 10 hours trying hit and miss recompiles.
[10:12] <OoberMick> ketilkn: hehe
[10:12] <tsume> Flannel: I don't use LAMP
[10:12] <ttyfscker> skavenge:: your getting into his personal business arent you?
[10:12] <asdasd> lamp is ja
[10:12] <santa99> ketilkn, have you ever used netbeans ?
[10:12] <tsume> Flannel: I use Ruby, Python, and a couple other good languages
[10:12] <narfmaster> skavenge, some people put URLs into rar password (usually for credit/spam purposes)
[10:12] <tsume> asdasd: LAMP is crap, PHP programmers need to get a life.
[10:12] <dli> _BASO_, try, sudo modprobe smc91c92_cs
[10:12] <JethroDawnfine> hey, does anyone know how to share a pppoe connection under ubuntu? I would like to share it with my girlfriend's WinXP laptop, hehehe
[10:13] <skavenge> ttyfscker: in 15+ years on computers ive never seen/encountered one
[10:13] <Gorlist> what does this mean?  ./el-130.x86.linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libcal3d.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:13] <ketilkn> santa99, nope. In fact I do prefer jEdit.
[10:13] <tsume> Flannel: around here, we need server cds. I don't think I'll order more cds next time. It will be good if they ship cd stickers, that would be good.
[10:13] <dli> JethroDawnfine, you need a switch (hub) first
[10:13] <ttyfscker> skavenge:: you havent ever seen a password protected rar?
[10:13] <strongy> ok and why only as repository?
[10:13] <lampshade> skavenge: no I'm not, if I was pirating shit, why would I be on ubuntu anyway?--anyway-- obviously lots of people do it because the functionality is there already (as you can see in the man page) it is just in command line form anyway.  That was a dumb question...  lots of people password archives  (especially once they got decent encryption such that the passwords weren't crackable instantly)
[10:13] <skavenge> narfmaster: to protect html code?
[10:13] <Rasmus89> does any of you use linux anti virus?
[10:14] <OoberMick> Gorlist: you should install libcal3d11c2a
[10:14] <narfmaster> skavenge, to prevent other sites from stealing credit
[10:14] <skavenge> lampshade: *shrug* i seriously doubt what your passwording is so important someone's going to crack it but to each his own
[10:14] <lampshade> actually looking around the forums, they think my whole deal is actually a bug in the archive manager
[10:14] <tsume> heh
[10:14] <ttyfscker> skavenge:: if you have been messin with computers for 15 years and never seen a password encrypted archive like rar.. then i'd be ashamed to tell it.
[10:14] <lampshade> that you can't do the password graphically
[10:14] <tsume> don't you encrypt your files? :)
[10:14] <santa99> Rasmus89, there is no use for it in linux when you are only loggin in as normal use and use the sudo command in the terminal
[10:14] <tsume> and I don't mean the weak utility the rar, etc offers
[10:14] <narfmaster> lampshade, that is possible - i've never tried file-roller with passworded files
[10:15] <rambo3> narfmaster, incpsulate it in php , no it wont work . learn php
[10:15] <santa99> Rasmus89, user*r*
[10:15] <skavenge> ttyfscker: only time ive evn heard of one before narfmaster suggested the html protection was in pirated software, thats why i asked, its not a common occurence
[10:15] <glen_> hi - i'm having trouble getting flac support for amarok running dapper. i'm using the xine engine. any ideas?
[10:15] <lampshade> yeah I think that's what it comes down to is that the latest version has this bug and that's why it isn't working for me
[10:15] <narfmaster> rambo3, i know it won't work but try telling that to people who run web sites :p
[10:15] <ttyfscker> its not a common occurrence but in 15 years you will run accross one...
[10:15] <Masticore> Any good Bluetooth and IR manager in apt-get ? Highlight me
[10:16] <tsume> heh
[10:16] <p1nger> what is the command to change permissions in terminal again?
[10:16] <dli> p1nger, chown
[10:16] <skavenge> ttyfscker: nope, stay away from that element i guess, anyway this is all offtopic ;)
[10:16] <OoberMick> p1nger: chmod
[10:16] <tsume> I wish people would stop trying to worry about protecting their IP on web stuff
[10:16] <tsume> it wont work
[10:16] <tsume> period
[10:16] <narfmaster> tsume, amen
[10:16] <tsume> not the php source encryptors, nothing. If they are determined to get or modify your code, they will.
[10:16] <Velorium> skavenge: it didnt work
[10:16] <ttyfscker> skavenge:: not its not offtopic..  archives are something that ubuntu uses on a daily basis.
[10:17] <skavenge> ttyfscker: yeah but what we're discussing isnt a fix or help on an issue
[10:17] <tsume> narfmaster: well, I just don't know why people have no brains. those encryptors are only buzzes
[10:17] <skavenge> Velorium: what happened?
[10:17] <Velorium> skavenge: i'll send you what terminal said
[10:17] <MarcN> Masticore: I
[10:17] <Velorium> in PM
[10:17] <skavenge> Velorium: use pastebin and paste me the URL
[10:17] <skavenge> !pastebin
[10:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:17] <Masticore> MarcN: what ?
[10:17] <MarcN> Masticore: I'm synching my pilot right now with IR.  Just make sure the kernel modules ircomm-tty is loaded and use /dev/ircomm1
[10:19] <Velorium> skavenge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18805
[10:19] <strongy> my problem is that i couldn't start the command 'make' after ./configure
[10:19] <Seveas> strongy, then most likely configure failed
[10:20] <Velorium> skavenge: and that was when i had my ubuntu 6.06 LTS i386 disc in
[10:20] <ttyfscker> strongy:: did you get a make error or did you get that the make command wasnt found?
[10:20] <Velorium> though in windows my E: drive is my FAT 32 partition
[10:20] <skavenge> Velorium: the package name is 'ndiswrapper-utils'
[10:20] <dli> ttyfscker, they should ban " failed/doesn't work, etc"
[10:20] <strongy> the make command wasnt found
[10:21] <ttyfscker> strongy:: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:21] <Velorium> ..crap,
[10:21] <Velorium> here goes another reboot
[10:21] <Velorium> lmao
[10:21] <skavenge> Velorium: you really need to follow the link i posted on installing in ubuntu as it tells you the exact packages etc
[10:21] <jvai_> lol
[10:21] <strongy> ttyfscker: thanks
[10:21] <dli> strongy, better to state the error message itself, instead of describing in your words
[10:21] <ttyfscker> strongy:: no prob
[10:21] <wildechild> hello all..i have a problem inorder for me to log in i have to continuosly reinstall my nvidia driver any suggestions?
[10:22] <dli> wildechild, did you follow the nvidia howto?
[10:22] <ttyfscker> dli:: what?
[10:22] <Velorium> skavenger: you said to do "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper" so thats what i did, heh. i told you, i'm extremely new to linux
[10:22] <Velorium> heh
[10:22] <dli> wildechild, looks like you downloaded the file from nvidia.com yourself
[10:22] <ketetha_> whats the  command line code for reinstalling ubuntu dapper and what all wil it reinstall
[10:22] <wildechild> aye
[10:22] <jaras> does anyone know if you can get monodevelop for ubuntu?
[10:22] <ttyfscker> dli::  ttyfscker, they should ban " failed/doesn't work, etc"
[10:22] <jaras> does anyone know if you can get monodevelop 0.11 for ubuntu?
[10:22] <skavenge> Velorium: my next post after that was 'the package is called ndiswrapper-utils actually' , must have missed that one
[10:22] <ttyfscker> whats that suppose to mean?
[10:22] <ketetha_> hmmm?
[10:23] <dli> ttyfscker, I mean, when a user is asking for support, it's senseless to report it failed, without the error message itself
[10:23] <livingdaylight> what kind of live cd is it anyways, doesn't even have an irc client?
[10:23] <mnp> does anyone have experience compiling kernels?
[10:23] <Velorium> skavenge: ah, yeah, i didn't see that one
[10:23] <ttyfscker> dli::  why did you address that to me?
[10:23] <skavenge> livingdaylight: irssi, xchat?
[10:23] <OoberMick> ketetha_: you probably don't want to reinstall everything
[10:23] <dli> !kernel-package
[10:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernel-package - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:23] <Jukru> jaras: the installer didn't work?
[10:23] <ttyfscker> !linux-image
[10:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux-image - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:23] <dli> mnp, /j #debian, ask dpkg about kernel-package
[10:23] <Velorium> skavenge: i'll be back then.. hopefully, lol
[10:23] <jvai_> can gaim 1.5 replace 1.4 in hoary? i downloaded it, put cant seem to make it work
[10:23] <ketetha_> OoberMick, what can i do then? compiz and aiglx isnt going away!!
[10:23] <livingdaylight> skavenge: not on the live cd
[10:23] <skavenge> Velorium: just miscommunication then, i promise this one is here
[10:24] <livingdaylight> where's gparted now
[10:24] <ttyfscker> !kernel-image
[10:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernel-image - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:24] <jaras> Jukru, yes it did but it only installed 0.10
[10:24] <santa99> !edge
[10:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about edge - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:24] <santa99> !edge eft
[10:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about edge eft - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:24] <dli> ttyfscker, you were kind enough to ask for the error message :(
[10:24] <eigenlambda> !n00b
[10:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about n00b - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:24] <ttyfscker> !edgy
[10:24] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:24] <gnomefreak> dont play with the bot
[10:24] <skavenge> livingdaylight: ive seen a 1000 people on here with irc on the livecd so if its not there its installable from the livecd
[10:24] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, System > Admin > Gnome Partition Editor
[10:24] <PowerCat> hey
[10:25] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: im not playing with it.. i was trying to figure out if it had info on linux-image for dli
[10:25] <dli> gnomefreak, can you turn off the "I know nothing"
[10:25] <OoberMick> ketetha_: did you install ubuntu packages?
[10:25] <PowerCat> after installing ubuntu all I get when booting is GRUB loading 1.5 and then nothing.
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: i wasnt talking to you
[10:25] <santa99> !edgy eft
[10:25] <ttyfscker> wow,  thats unbeleivable
[10:25] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:25] <gnomefreak> dli: no
[10:25] <andi_> is there anyone using nforce2 onboard audio wit a 5.1 system?
[10:25] <ttyfscker> who  was you talking to then gnomefreak
[10:26] <livingdaylight> narfmaster: i don't see no Gnome Partition Editor?
[10:26] <raul_> hi all
[10:26] <PowerCat> how can I configure grub? I don't have anything bootable!
[10:26] <raul_>  can anybody tell me what decoder do i have to install so i could see a movie with totem
[10:26] <dli> livingdaylight, gparted
[10:26] <raul_> ???
[10:26] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, really?
[10:26] <livingdaylight> dli: where?
[10:26] <livingdaylight> narfmaster: yea, really
[10:26] <ompaul> santa99, I think you will find that gnomefreak was serious - don't play with the bot
[10:26] <Jukru> jaras: iirc, I converted the rpm to deb and installed it from the deb
[10:26] <dli> livingdaylight, type in a terminal: gksudo parted
[10:26] <ttyfscker> it must be happy hour for the ops
[10:26] <santa99> ompaul, so i only want to know something about edgy eft whats so false with it
[10:27] <ttyfscker> here they all come
[10:27] <jvai_> libdvdcss2
[10:27] <gnomefreak> santa99: use /msg butou
[10:27] <santa99> gnomefreak, ok
[10:27] <ttyfscker> santa99:: joint #ubuntu+1
[10:27] <gnomefreak> use /msg ubotu
[10:27] <dli> santa99, you can use /msg ubotu blahblah, so, don't play with big brothers
[10:27] <ttyfscker> join*
[10:27] <ompaul> you can do it quitely /msg ubotu (placeyour keyword here)
[10:27] <raul_> pls can anybody help me????
[10:27] <raul_>  can anybody tell me what decoder do i have to install so i could see a movie with totem
[10:27] <jvai_> libdvdcss2
[10:27] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:27] <jaras> Jukru: what is iirc? and how do you convert a deb package to ubuntu?
[10:27] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:27] <livingdaylight> dli: nada
[10:28] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, try gksu gparted
[10:28] <bogus_Breath> !ati
[10:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:28] <Jukru> jaras: if i recall correctly :)
[10:28] <livingdaylight> narfmaster: nope
[10:28] <Jukru> jaras: use "alien" program...
[10:28] <tabman> well this is a totally non-ubuntu question but I don't know where else to go: I want to know the exact link of this download file:
[10:28] <tabman> http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/c2520cf0-19f8-48bc-90b4-c4bba689c76a.html
[10:29] <gnomefreak> tabman: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, are you using Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> tabman: join there^^
[10:29] <skavenge> or dapper for that matter
[10:29] <bensr20det> anyone know how to install java for opera?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> !opera > bensr20det
[10:29] <gnomefreak> bensr20det: read your pm
[10:29] <PowerCat> GRUB doesn't work for me! I installed ubuntu and then when I boot I get 'GRUB Loading Stage 1.5' and then noting. what can I do?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> PowerCat: what error ar eyou getting?
[10:30] <OoberMick> PowerCat: do you have a live cd?
[10:30] <livingdaylight> narfmaster: ubuntu
[10:30] <PowerCat> none. it just stays tere forever.
[10:30] <PowerCat> I installed it to my HD
[10:30] <PowerCat> from the live CD
[10:30] <ttyfscker> PowerCat:: you let the installation complete didnt you?
[10:30] <bensr20det> gnomefreak: i already have opera installed i need java
[10:30] <OoberMick> PowerCat: you probably need to install it again
[10:30] <PowerCat> Well when I clicked to restart it kind of froze so I hit the power button
[10:30] <gnomefreak> bensr20det: on the opera wiki there are instuctions for installing java
[10:30] <PowerCat> Will grub know I have windows installed and let me dual boot?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> PowerCat: should
[10:31] <bogus_Breath> yes
[10:31] <OoberMick> PowerCat: once it's working. yes.
[10:31] <bensr20det> gnomefreak: thank you
[10:31] <ttyfscker> bensr20det:: you need to link your java plugin to your opera plugins path..
[10:31] <andi_> is there anyone using nforce2 onboard audio wit a 5.1 system? i have no idea anymore how to configure it
[10:31] <p1nger> Can someone help me?  I am trying to chmod my www folder (/var/www) so that my account has rwx access in the file explorer, how do i do this?
[10:31] <narfmaster> livingdaylight, i just checked the manifest and gparted should definitely be on your disc
[10:31] <skavenge> as well as irc
[10:31] <jaras> Jukru: ok
[10:32] <jvai_> can gaim 1.5 replace 1.4 in hoary? i downloaded it, put cant seem to make it work
[10:32] <livingdaylight> maybe this disc was skewered
[10:32] <bensr20det> ttyfscker: do i have to do the same thing for firefox?
[10:32] <jaras> Jukru: but where did you get the .deb file?
[10:33] <PowerCat> thanks gnomefreak, OoberMick. I'm installing it again.
[10:33] <ddonky> crimsun - after turning on dma in that drive, cdparanoia is extracting track one.
[10:33] <Minty> newbie playing wit jabber is there anyother server than "conference.jabber.org" as all rooms empty ??
[10:33] <dli> jvai_, can you upgrade to dapper?
[10:33] <micahcowan> p1nger: what is the current output of ls -ld /var/www ?
[10:33] <bogus_Breath> jvai_, How did you download it?
[10:33] <jvai_> no.. lol... not yet, i worked too hard in hoary
[10:33] <Jukru> jaras: no, you convert the rpm to deb with "sudo alien the.rpm" amd it creates "the.deb", just install it with "sudo dpkg -i the.deb"
[10:33] <PowerCat> is it possible to use compiz on ubuntu 64?
[10:33] <ttyfscker> bensr20det:: yes you have to link the plugin for firefox too
[10:33] <jvai_> i went to gaim's homepage
[10:33] <Jukru> jaras: amd = and
[10:34] <eigenlambda> who wants an aliened rpm?
[10:34] <bogus_Breath> jvai_, You know about synaptic, adept and apt-get right?
[10:34] <jaras> Jukru: heh ok
[10:34] <OoberMick> p1nger: set they group to a group you are a member of (man chown) and then add group writing
[10:34] <Jukru> eigenlambda: they don't offer monodevelop *.deb?
[10:34] <jvai_> yes, but hoary's repo has gaim 1.4 still
[10:34] <A[D] minS> what i have to insert into  /etc/fstab  to access users to write to disk?
[10:34] <Jukru> eigenlambda: and the conversion works just fine
[10:35] <ttyfscker> speaking of gaim i need to get gaim 2.0 for dapper.. anyone know of a good repo to add for gaim 2?
[10:35] <A[D] minS> to make users access disks for writing
[10:35] <dli> jvai_, try to build from source, then
[10:35] <jvai_> uurg, how i do that?
[10:36] <whiter> anyone know why i cant write to my hdd anymore
[10:36] <steveire> I want to try to crate some logos. Would you reckon I should use inkscape for that and can you point me at a tutorial
[10:36] <steveire> ?
[10:36] <whiter> it says something about "read only file system" but i dont know how to fix it
[10:37] <OoberMick> jvai_: gaim 1.5 (and 2.0) are in the backports http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:37] <steveire> whiter: Are you trying to write to your windows partition?
[10:37] <ttyfscker> whiter:: you have it mounted as ro
[10:37] <whiter> its my ext3 partition
[10:37] <whiter> ttyfscker, how can i mount it as regular, its my main partition that linux is on
[10:37] <ttyfscker> whiter:: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[10:37] <whiter> cant
[10:37] <ttyfscker> why?
[10:37] <whiter> but i know it isnt mounted as read only
[10:38] <jvai_> lol, when i update, my backports r broken, been that way since easy ubuntu
[10:38] <whiter> cause im not on that computer
[10:38] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know how to restore the original ubuntu gnome splash screen
[10:38] <whiter> ...its read only
[10:38] <whiter> cant do anythign
[10:38] <dli> jvai_, go to gaim.sf.net , download the source, then, ./configure; make;make install
[10:38] <jvai_> oo ok
[10:38] <whiter> but in fstab it isnt mounted as read only
[10:38] <ttyfscker> whiter:: you need to go in recovery mode and change it from ro in /etc/fstab
[10:38] <xed2> hello all! i just setup ubuntu, and was wondering what that little script was that was posted on digg a while back that took care of all at/nvidia and codec package installations ?
[10:38] <whiter> it isnt ro in fstab
[10:38] <narfmaster> whiter, you should install openclipart-svg and check out some of that stuff
[10:38] <whiter> so that wouldnt do much
[10:39] <mwe> !gaim2
[10:39] <ubotu> Packages for Gaim 2 beta 3 can be found via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[10:39] <ttyfscker> whiter:: how did this happen?
[10:39] <dli> jvai_, make install will install them to /usr/local/ by default, you may want to use checkinstall to make a .deb for your own
[10:39] <whiter> narfmaster that would probably work but i cant write to the hdd
[10:39] <OoberMick> jvai_: personally i'd try to fix the easy ubuntu problem the install from backports
[10:39] <narfmaster> whiter, sorry that was meant for someone else :p
[10:39] <whiter> ttyfsker, after apt-get updating
[10:39] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know how to restore the original ubuntu gnome splash screen
[10:39] <whiter> apt-get dist-upgrading i ment
[10:39] <vgoltser> any player (besides xmms) able to stream audio to a shoutcast server?
[10:39] <narfmaster> steveire,  you should install openclipart-svg and check out some of that stuff
[10:39] <vgoltser> xmms crashes ....
[10:39] <ttyfscker> whiter:: what dist was you  using prior to the dist-upgrade?
[10:39] <whiter> xubuntu dapper
[10:40] <GTX> vgoltser, run same broadcaster in wine
[10:40] <steveire> cool. Will that open in inkscape or what?
[10:40] <vgoltser> anyone?
[10:40] <Velorium> skavege: got a new one for you. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18808
[10:40] <xed2> hello, anyone can throw me a quick idea
[10:40] <xed2> ?
[10:40] <xed2> hello all! i just setup ubuntu, and was wondering what that little script was that was posted on digg a while back that took care of all at/nvidia and codec package installations ?
[10:40] <narfmaster> steveire, that gives you a bunch of svg files in /usr/share/openclipart/svg
[10:40] <linux_user400351> !google
[10:40] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[10:40] <linux_user400351> !google something
[10:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about google something - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:40] <Eclipse_GSX> Google result:  [
[10:41] <vgoltser> !shoutcast
[10:41] <Bonez56> !tell xed2 about automatix
[10:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about shoutcast - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:41] <steveire> great. I'll have a look
[10:41] <xed2> automatix! that was it
[10:41] <xed2> thanks bonez56!
[10:41] <Bonez56> xed2: no worries, have fun :)
[10:42] <bahadirt> hello
[10:42] <Velorium> skavenge: got a new one for you. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18808
[10:42] <Tokeiito> labas vakaras (good evening)
[10:42] <bahadirt> is there a way to start the system without gnome ?
[10:42] <jvai_> ty all, i bookmarked the backport page, i got too much goin on on my desktop right now
[10:42] <Bonez56> !tell bahadirt about runlevel
[10:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about runlevel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:42] <dli> bahadirt, disable gdm in init
[10:42] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah press C when bootloader displays
[10:42] <DrCurl> hi
[10:42] <ttyfscker> mwe:: thanks for updating the bot
[10:42] <PowerCat> same error. when i boot my pc it says 'GRUB Loading stage1.5' and then it stays there forever.
[10:42] <bahadirt> dli : will try that tks :)
[10:42] <santa99> where can i define at which temperatures my fan should start
 press C when bootloader displays
[10:43] <DrCurl> is it normal that my security update is extremely slow? while installing packages is a lot faster?
[10:43] <Velorium> santa99: in your bios
[10:43] <santa99> Velorium, no possibility to change this in ubuntu ?
[10:43] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know how to restore the original ubuntu gnome splash screen
[10:43] <Supermathie> security.ubuntu.org seems to be down/slow at the moment...
[10:43] <Supermathie> no it's not normal :)
[10:43] <PowerCat> Paddy_EIRE: nothing
[10:44] <PowerCat> it's frozen
[10:44] <Velorium> santa99: i'm new to ubuntu as well but i've never known for fan controls to be done outside of bios
[10:44] <whiter> ok
[10:44] <santa99> Velorium, ok thx i will take a look at it in the bios
 shit
[10:45] <carajean> hey is this a good place to get install help with ubuntu dapper?
[10:45] <Velorium> santa99: np, as long as you're not on a proprietary mobo (like dell or something) it'll probably be there
[10:45] <whiter> my next problem: my file system is mounted as read only right... in the fstab it says =remount-ro... but this is my main (boot) hard drive (mounted /) so whenever i boot wheather it be in recovery mode or not it mounts as read only so i cant change fstab
 did u try restoring with the live cd
[10:45] <whiter> anyone know how to go about doing that
[10:45] <PowerCat> Paddy_EIRE i just installed it for the first time
[10:45] <carajean> i have a slight problem installing this distro i get a kernal panic as soon as i start the install
[10:46] <lilbit> why should one update the linux headers?
[10:46] <PowerCat> it';s obviously a bugof some kind.. is there another bootloader?
[10:46] <Sanne> Hi all, I'm about to install Ubuntu on new new system with a single SATA disk. If I would add my old ide disk later on, after installation, should I expect any grub problems?
[10:46] <jonah1980_2> hi guys, does anyone know how i can convert a wmv file into an avi or vcd/dvd file to play on my dvd player. i can view the wmv in totem on my 32bit system but not on my amd64 box
[10:46] <lilbit> whet benefit is there to updates linux headers other than breaking my vmware
 sounds like a broken install, try re-installing it
[10:46] <carajean> i also tried turning acpi=off
[10:47] <PowerCat> Paddy_EIRE well actually the second time. the first time it did this so they suggested the same. 30 minutes ago
[10:47] <PowerCat> i reinstalled a second time
[10:47] <cree> could anyone tell me how to let gdm start on boot , without calling it with /etc/init.d/gdm start?
[10:47] <xed2> hey Bonez56, you still around? i tred wget for automatix following forum instructions, and its stuck on waiting for a response from the server, any heads up you could throw at me ?
[10:47] <brotakul> can somebody tell me how to install accplus for xmms?
 did u download the iso
[10:47] <lilbit> why should one update the linux headers?
[10:47] <lilbit> whet benefit is there to updates linux headers other than breaking my vmware
[10:47] <PowerCat> yes idownloaded the ubuntu for amd64
 and run the check sum
[10:47] <PowerCat> i guess my computer just isnt compatible with linux
[10:47] <gnomefreak> lilbit: please stop repeating yourself
[10:48] <narfmaster> sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
 64 version can sometimes be tempermental
[10:48] <carajean> has anyone else had trouble installing this?
[10:48] <PowerCat> I'd burn the i386 version... if i could get back into windows!!
 try 32 and see if that works better for you
[10:48] <lilbit> gnomefreak, will rephrasing still count?
[10:48] <PowerCat> but my bootloader is broken now
[10:48] <p1nger> i am using a dell laptop and i was wondering how i can disable tapping on my touchpad (tap to click)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> lilbit: yes it would
[10:48] <PowerCat> linux broke my pc........
 ahh
[10:49] <brotakul> hi. can somebody please tell me how to install accplus for xmms?
[10:49] <Bonez56> how do you extract a .tar file from the console?
[10:49] <crimsun> ddonky: ok, and for totem now?
[10:49] <narfmaster> Bonez56, tar.gz?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> lilbit: assuming since you asked that question you dont know what linux-kernel-headers are/do
 do u have an extra cd/dvd drive drive
[10:49] <Knorrie> carajean: at what point did it panic?
[10:49] <ttyfscker> whiter:: boot the live cd.. and mount your root partition.. and edit the fstab
[10:49] <vakosel> hi all ! i am new to ubuntu  and i am happy for it !
[10:49] <PowerCat> Paddy_EIRE i have 2 of them
[10:49] <wil`yum> the 'System - Admin - Shared Folders' applet quit working on my Breezy system. Where should i look?
[10:49] <lilbit> gnomefreak, no, not really
[10:49] <Bonez56> narfmaster: no, just .tar. I know how to do tar xzvf for .gz's but not sure about .tar
[10:49] <Sanne> Bonez56: type man tar, there are examples
[10:49] <PowerCat> oh ican boot the live cd
[10:49] <PowerCat> and then burn the iso from it
[10:49] <narfmaster> Bonez56, just tar xvf filename
[10:50] <PowerCat> good idea
[10:50] <Bonez56> narfmaster: ah cool thanx
[10:50] <ttyfscker> knocked two nails in one there
[10:50] <ttyfscker> lol
[10:50] <gnomefreak> lilbit: assuming google is broken on your pc too
[10:50] <Velorium> how can i install a package from a .tar.gz
 k, boot from live cd again then download/burn your iso from there
[10:50] <PowerCat> Paddy_EIRE I downloaded both just in case :P
[10:50] <khaije1> anyone know the packages needed for sound in flash... i thought i had them all but i'm only getting visual
[10:50] <three> velorium: is there a sh script in that tar
[10:50] <narfmaster> Velorium, untar and then read the README file
[10:50] <dcnstrct> where can I find information about using the alternatives system ? I just added a symlink to my /etc/alternatives/ but it doesn't seem to work;  need help.  thanks!
[10:51] <Bonez56> sudo dpkg -i
 good thinking, thats what I'd do anyhow that should work for you
[10:51] <Knorrie> dcnstrct: man update-alternatives
[10:51] <dli> narfmaster, man update-alternatives
[10:51] <ardchoille> HAs anyone an idea about how to do this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1294919
[10:51] <narfmaster> dli, thanks :p
[10:51] <Velorium> three: i don't believe so, the file i downloaded is found here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[10:51] <vakosel> how can i get the gcc base with apt get ??
[10:51] <vakosel> i mean the command
[10:51] <Velorium> three: it gives me directions passed the extracting but those i don't understand how to do
[10:51] <Knorrie> vakosel: apt-get install build-essential
[10:52] <lilbit> gnomefreak, no, it's not, I am actually doing that now
[10:52] <micahcowan> vakosel: you want the build-essential package. Use apt-get or synaptic.
[10:52] <ddonky> crimsun - tried totem.... 'The Application "totem" has quit unexpectedly.'
[10:52] <vakosel> thanks knorrie !!
[10:52] <dcnstrct> thanks
[10:52] <tich> does anyone know of a good link that has easy step by step instructions for setting up a wireless printer network?
[10:52] <lilbit> gnomefreak, get a girlfriend, or boyfriend, and stop stressing, don't answer if it bugs you
[10:52] <vakosel> thanks micahcowan
[10:52] <dli> ddonky, totem is quite buggy, can you try mplayer ?
[10:52] <ddonky> ok
[10:52] <skavenge> lilbit: it bugs everyone when you repeat
[10:52] <brotakul> hi. can somebody please tell me how to install accplus for xmms?
[10:52] <three> Velorium: i hate to tell you but neither do i, most people just skip over the sh script and thats why i asked
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know how to restore the original ubuntu gnome splash screen
[10:53] <narfmaster> brotakul, did you try the mp4 plugin for xmms?
[10:53] <bbrazil> Paddy_EIRE: you got ubuntu-desktop installed?
[10:53] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[10:53] <Velorium> threee; crap. well, skavage told me i could install it from the ubuntu disk with a command but it ended up giving me this when i tried http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18808
[10:53] <Paddy_EIRE> still gettin the gnome splash
[10:53] <Velorium> *three
[10:53] <bbrazil> Paddy_EIRE: right - there's a command to do it but I forget the exact name. update-splash or something
[10:53] <Velorium> three: and he seems to be afk right now..
[10:53] <khaije1> ardchoille: you should be able to specify this and any other env-var with the 'env' command
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> k, ill tr
[10:54] <wil`yum> the 'System - Admin - Shared Folders' applet quit working on my Breezy system. Where should i look?
[10:54] <skavenge> Velorium: i dont know why its doing that either if your running  ubuntu it should be right on the cd, thats where i installed it from with no internet
[10:54] <bbrazil> Paddy_EIRE: you can always drop by the next ILUG meeting
[10:54] <khaije1> ardchoille: env DISPLAY=:0 <command>
[10:54] <bbrazil> x
[10:54] <brotakul> marfmaster: already installed all the plugins for xmms... don't work
 what do u mean ILUG
[10:54] <bbrazil> Paddy_EIRE: Irish Linux Users Group
[10:55] <narfmaster> brotakul, i don't know if xmms can do aac+
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> where's that at then
[10:55] <Velorium> skavenge: =/
[10:55] <khaije1> ardchoille: this sets the env-var for this command specificly without overwriting it for all procs
[10:55] <skavenge> Velorium: ubuntu is already installed right, your not just using the livecd are you?
[10:55] <PowerCat> what's a good cd burning software for ubuntu?
[10:55] <bbrazil> Paddy_EIRE: watch the mailing list :)
[10:55] <khaije1> PowerCat: k3b
 K3B
[10:55] <Velorium> yeah, trust me, it's installed
[10:55] <Velorium> lol
[10:55] <livingdaylight> gparted had to be installed, wasn't there by default
[10:55] <khaije1> :-)
[10:55] <narfmaster> PowerCat, Nautilus CD burner works okay
[10:56] <brotakul> narfmaster: are u serious? so i won't play radios with my xmms? thats not quite good news.. :(
[10:56] <skavenge> Velorium: so when you put the disc in after its booted does it ask you to start the package manager?
[10:56] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah Nautilus good also
[10:56] <livingdaylight> how do you install Opera?
[10:56] <skavenge> !opera
[10:56] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.
[10:56] <Velorium> yes it does
[10:56] <ttyfscker> whats up with all these updates available to dapper here lately?
[10:56] <Velorium> and i canceled it, and did your command
[10:56] <narfmaster> brotakul, there may be a plugin somewhere - i just don't know right now (i don't need it myself)
[10:56] <Velorium> after that i poped out the disc
[10:56] <Velorium> poped it back in
[10:56] <Velorium> then started the manager
[10:56] <livingdaylight> skavenge: thx, is that the latest version 9.0?
[10:56] <carajean> has anyone tried ubuntu with a tablet pc?
 you can get the istructions of the unofficail ubuntu wiki
[10:57] <GreySim> Hey, I was wondering if anyone knew what Gnome app to use to burn VCDs?
[10:57] <Velorium> entered my password which it accepted, then did a search for "ndis" and nothing came up
[10:57] <brotakul> narfmaster: ok. thants. i'll still search for it..
[10:57] <skavenge> livingdaylight: dunno, 9 is installable though
[10:57] <livingdaylight> Paddy_EIRE: where?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> skavenge: 9 is latest
[10:57] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: 9 is latest
[10:57] <skavenge> gnomefreak: yeah i didnt know where the link went i know 9 is latest
[10:57] <Commander-Crowe> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16833117206
[10:57] <livingdaylight> skavenge: i know i had it before, but don't remember which one it was . I downloaded the _qt version and there was a dpendency missing
[10:57] <narfmaster> GreySim, you may have to use NeroLinux
[10:57] <Commander-Crowe> does that work in Ubuntu?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> skavenge: opera.com
[10:57] <BaadPete> Hello. My 6.06 laptop won't boot as of today. It crashes after the ubuntu screen with the brown progress bar with a blank screen and a cursor that doesn't flash.
[10:58] <lilbit> gnomefreak, man, quit acting like a sissy
[10:58] <livingdaylight> thx, gnomefreak
[10:58] <GreySim> narfmaster, cool, thanks.
[10:58] <kung> gn8
 http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[10:58] <gnomefreak> there were links with that
[10:58] <ddonky> dli - mplayer can't 'see' it. neither can beep. nautilus crashes when i try to open it.
[10:58] <lilbit> gnomefreak, I dont recall saying anything rude to you
[10:58] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: do you know what the deal is with all the new updates to dapper here in the last couple of days? was some big bugs found or what?
[10:58] <skavenge> gnomefreak: ive got it heh
[10:58] <bigcx2> does anyone know how to enable a packaged kernel patch under ubuntu after installation
[10:58] <wil`yum> the 'System - Admin - Shared Folders' applet quit working on my Breezy system. Where should i look?
[10:58] <skavenge> Velorium: this is the dapper live cd? un synaptic package manager nothing under 'ndis' or 'ndiswrapper' came up? even when you scrolled down after the search?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: not sure not on dapper atm
[10:59] <bigcx2> does anyone know how to enable a packaged kernel patch under ubuntu after installation
[10:59] <miguelv06> to install windows and ubuntu in the same computer should i make two partitions on the windows instalation and then just format one and use the other one for linux?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> im asuming you are getitng a bunch of kllibs updates
[10:59] <ardchoille> khaije1: I tried it via a crontab, it doesn't work :(
[10:59] <three> wilyum: if you install knoqueror you can get it there, thats what i use
[10:59] <tristanmike> miguelv06: that's how I did it :)
[10:59] <wil`yum> ty
[10:59] <miguelv06> thank you =)
[10:59] <tristanmike> miguelv06: but I also use a FAT32 partition for shared files b/w windows and linux
[10:59] <wodger> two partions or drives
[11:00] <miguelv06> so shoul i install windows as fat32?
[11:00] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: ok can you tell me this.. these updates for dapper have to be tested somewhere before they are put in the pool.. are they things that are being used in "edgy" and are considered stable?  if not then is there a "testing" repo for these updates so that someone can get them before they are passed into the stable pool?
[11:00] <miguelv06> or as ftns
[11:00] <dli> miguelv06, no, fat is not secure :(
[11:00] <BaadPete> Hello everyone. I'm a bit stuck - My 6.06 laptop (IBM Thinkpad T22) won't boot, as of today. It crashes after the ubuntu screen with the brown progress bar with a blank screen and a cursor that doesn't flash. I can only get into the recovery mode shell, not Gnome.
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: the devel team tests the updates before they are released and no your not getting edgy updates in dapper
[11:01] <tristanmike> miguelv06: keep the ntfs, but a fat32 partition might be something to think about if you have the space
[11:01] <dli> BaadPete, reinstall gnome, rm ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome*
[11:01] <wodger> if you try a live cd is your data all there bad pete
[11:01] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: i understand that the development team tests them.. but.. what repos do the development team test with
[11:01] <ardchoille> khaije1: I had the time wrong in the crontab, it *does* work. Thank you very much!!!
[11:01] <Velorium> skavenge: the CD i have burned is ubuntu 6.06 i386, also as i said before, i don't know if this makes a difference but my E drive on windows is my FAT32 partition. on there i have that copy i downloaded from the sourceforge wiki. in the terminal it refers to "E:". in windows though my CD ROM is the D: drive
[11:02] <BaadPete> i'm not too bothered about data actually, i only installed it a few days ago to see what i could get working... more concerned about why it happens! It did it once before with the live CD too, but rebooting solved it... now it seems to be stuck.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: thats something that they need to answer but normally the person that has the patch or fixes something tests it them selves
[11:02] <Velorium> skavenge: also yes, it showed absolutely nothing for those two searches
[11:02] <skavenge> Velorium: you've got a serious underlying problem i think, unrelated to ndiswrapper
[11:03] <dli> BaadPete, you are not alone, I saw many users with broken gnome after upgrading also
[11:03] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: that doesnt sound like its well tested..
[11:03] <Ackeubu_> what config files would I use to define Xsessions properties? it is not .xinitrc!
[11:03] <benplaut> i'm having a problem with the alternate cd.  at some stage during the install (after copying packages to the disk, it seems), the screen turns into one white ncurses block in the middle, and one block on the side.  switching to a virtual term doesn't do anything.  Suggestions?
[11:03] <Bonez56> I am currently running kernel 2.6.15-26-k7 but I just downloaded linux-source and all the other kernel packages and recompiled, now it shows up as 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1-custom. Is my custom kernel older?
[11:03] <skavenge> Velorium: im staring at the install cd on another computer and ndiswrapper-utils is right there, so theres an issue with the cdrom or something
[11:03] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: it doesnt take long to know if a patch fixed the issue
[11:03] <BaadPete> dli: so will removing those files solve it, y'think?
[11:03] <Velorium> skavenge: why? i just think it's trying to search from my fat 32 partition on terminal
[11:03] <khoda`> Hey, I just installed. Internet works... but is verrry slow. Any ideas? (i.e. getting into gaim is slow, connecting to IRC is slow... loading pages is slow) Help!
[11:03] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: maybe the patch fixes it for one person but not all..
[11:04] <dli> BaadPete, give it a try, if not, reinstall all gnome
[11:04] <skavenge> Velorium: that has nothing to do with the synaptic package manager not even finding the package 'ndiswrapper-utils' though
[11:04] <BaadPete> okay, cheers
[11:04] <dli> BaadPete, start with something like, " apt-get --purge remove libgnome2-common"
[11:04] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: i find it hard to beleive that packages are only tested by the person assigned to them.. the team surely has to verify it before it is passed into the dapper pool
[11:04] <wayward> where can I get more information, if available, on the cause of Saturday's outage?
[11:04] <BaadPete> i thought it might be something i broke when i was trying to do things yesterday and the repositories were down
[11:04] <Velorium> skavenge: well, i don't know, everything works fine in ubuntu, it's just that i can't install ndiswrapper from anywhere
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Yo Ho.. I installed Kubuntu Desktop, everything went fine,  when I go to shut down I have 5 or 6 clicks, one, the red door, two log out takes me to Kubuntu login screen, then 4 con the menu 5 on shut down and then 6 a final window shutdown...
[11:05] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: not everyone can upload packages
[11:05] <wodger> khoda is the machine running fine other wise?
[11:05] <BaadPete> how do I update things from the shell? i've done a "apt-get update"... what next to install things?
[11:05] <skavenge> Velorium: i know we've been over it but your sure you scrolled down? when i search 'ndis', alot of things come up and ndiswrapper-utils isnt till the bottom of the page
[11:05] <khoda`> wodger: yep.
[11:05] <khoda`> wodger: only the internet is slow.
[11:05] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: why would everyone need to?  everyone should be able to download them though..
[11:05] <OoberMick> BaadPete: apt-get upgrade
[11:05] <Velorium> skavenge: i'll give you a screen shot of what i do, i'll boot into it right now
[11:05] <wodger> could just be your isp? or are other computers slow?
[11:05] <BaadPete> dur, cheers!
[11:06] <skavenge> Velorium: otherwise to compile it your going to have to get the tar.gz to your ubuntu and install some other things before it'll even think about compiling
[11:06] <khoda`> wodger: when in windows it runs lightening fast. same with my laptop
[11:06] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: the assignee should post the patch to a testing pool, and the team should download the patch and verify it works. if not it shouldnt be passed on to the stable pool..
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: they are not going to release something to you without knowing if its fixed or not due to it can hurt other things on your system. again ask them they know best.
[11:06] <CyDrive> how do you insall a .bin?
[11:06] <wodger> how are you connected?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> CyDrive: sh file.bin
[11:06] <Velorium> skavenge: alright, well yeah, i have that tar.gz yet so if i need to install more stuff i don't have a problem with it
[11:06] <ttyfscker> CyDrive:: chmod +x file.bin
[11:06] <khoda`> wodger: network cable, router, comcast cable internet
[11:06] <pilha> hello folks
[11:07] <ttyfscker> CyDrive:: then from the directory the .bin file is located ./file.bin
[11:07] <wayward> CyDrive: .bin can be anything, likely a C image
[11:07] <wayward> CD*
[11:07] <skavenge> Velorium: well you need stuff of the cd though and it cant even find ndiswrapper right now
[11:07] <sethk> CyDrive, a .bin is usually an executable install program.  so you chmod +x it, and run it
[11:07] <wodger> so a lan card in the laptop?
[11:07] <Velorium> skavenge: well just so i can do less reboots can you tell me what else i would need off the disc just in case?
[11:07] <khoda`> wodger: no. its on a desktop. wired through mobo's ethernet port
[11:07] <skavenge> Velorium: id try and install 'build-essential' for sure to compile
[11:07] <pilha> very simple newbie question... I just installed Ubuntu 5.10, how do I upgrade to 6.06 from within that?
[11:07] <Velorium> ok
[11:08] <Velorium> would that be it?
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> pilha: Easier to just get Dapper cd
[11:08] <skavenge> Velorium: that may be all you need to compile, lets see if it will install .. if it does great
[11:08] <hazemmohamed> Hello every body, I've a problem with my screen resolution
[11:08] <wayward> pilha: start with http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87262
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> ati
[11:08] <skavenge> Velorium: how it would and ndiswrapper cant though i have no idea
[11:08] <pilha> Jack_Sparrow, you mean dload+burn it then re-install the whole thing?
[11:08] <wodger> mmm odd well sounds like ubuntu isn't happy with the lan card
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> pilha: yes
[11:08] <khoda`> wodger: what should i do? :[
[11:09] <wodger> be it intregated or not
[11:09] <pilha> wayward, thx, checking it now
[11:09] <Velorium> skavenge: well it says that there's 1000 some packages avialible...
[11:09] <hazemmohamed> it is stick on 1280x1024
[11:09] <Velorium> again, i'll give you a screenshot
[11:09] <hazemmohamed> and it is not comfortable to me
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> If you just d'l it you cant have done much tweaking
[11:09] <skavenge> Velorium: i trust you i dont need a screenshot but the package is on every ubuntu cd, unless your using xubuntu or kubuntu or something
[11:10] <wodger> could try a new lan card if everything else works?
[11:10] <ax> if i have an install cd from may can i install the newest version [via some sort of dist-upgrade or osmething?] 
[11:10] <Fracture> hi.  I looked in my syslog after my pc froze, to find a message "kernel BUG at mm/rmap.c:486!' and a "[ cut here ] " section.  where is the best place to submit this ?
[11:10] <sethk> hazemmohamed, you can use dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver to reconfigure X.  you'll find a screen towards the end that allows you to specify the resolutions you want to use.
[11:10] <ax> or is that the newest version anyways :) ?
[11:10] <wodger> but also try googling ubuntu and the card/mother board
[11:10] <Tintin> I am getting an error from apt when downgrading from Mysql 5.0 to Mysql 4.1: http://pastebin.ca/98848 How can I fix it?
[11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ax 6.06
[11:11] <OoberMick> pilha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[11:11] <ax> yeah, i guess i should boot it and see
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Im not a fan of these full upgrades.
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Just like clean fresh install
[11:11] <dli> Tintin, is it okay to downgrade? for your data?
[11:12] <christian_> Hello
[11:12] <mwe> is gparted supposed to be able to resize NTFS partitions without data loss?
[11:12] <dli> mwe, yes, but still backup :)
[11:12] <RandomDude16> I need help getting mysql 4.1 and php4 working.
[11:12] <Jack_Sparrow> mwe, yes supposed to..
[11:12] <Tintin> dli: I think so. I haven't really thougth about. Can I just delete the databases? They are not important.
[11:12] <wodger> depends probably how much you fiddle with linux and how well the intaller copes i guess jack
[11:12] <mwe> great
[11:12] <khoda> h
[11:13] <dli> Tintin, okay, then, you can go ahead with a little trick
[11:13] <mwe> I'm too lazy to backup. I'll just cry if I loose everthing :)
[11:13] <skavenge> haha!
[11:13] <mattttttt> is there a guide for putting ubuntu on a seperate partition
[11:13] <mattttttt> i don't wanna mess up
[11:13] <RandomDude16> mysql-server-4.1 libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php4-mysql are all installed for me and it still doesnt work.
[11:13] <Bonez56> I just recompiled my kernel, now X wont start, it says in the log that it could not load the nvidia kernel modules. what do i have to do?
[11:13] <skavenge> thats the spirit, how important is it anyway ;)
[11:13] <dli> Tintin, first, reinstall 5.1, remove it with, " apt-get --purge remove "
[11:13] <Tintin> dli: Ahh... sounds good.
[11:13] <Jack_Sparrow> mwe, No Excuse..
[11:14] <Tintin> dli: And then it should be clear sailing...?
[11:14] <khoda> http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=623983
[11:14] <dli> Tintin, should be, if not, you may have to reinstall the preinst scripts, and figure out why
[11:14] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: you wanting to dual boot
[11:14] <Tintin> dli: Ok, thanks... I'll give it a try...
[11:14] <mattttttt> ?
[11:15] <Bonez56> I just recompiled my kernel, now X wont start, it says in the log that it could not load the nvidia kernel modules. what do i have to do?
[11:15] <grampajoe> Gnomad and Kzenexplorer won't recognize my Creative Zen Vision:M, and since it isn't detected, I can't upgrade the firmware.  Can anyone help?
[11:15] <pilha> OoberMick, thx
[11:15] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: default "Dual Boot" install is on its own partition...
[11:15] <OoberMick> pilha: np
[11:16] <mattttttt> i didn't see "dual boot" anywhere
[11:16] <mattttttt> it wants me to configure a partition
[11:16] <Snach> Sombody who can help me with Linux Ubuntu? Never used it before:P
[11:16] <sethk> mattttttt, the dual boot setup is automatic
[11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: How much unallocated space is available
[11:16] <Bonez56> can anyone help?
[11:16] <mattttttt> I see
[11:16] <sethk> mattttttt, if windows is installed, you'll get dual boot and you don't actually say anything about it.
[11:17] <mwe> Snach: shoot. this is a suppor channel
[11:17] <grampajoe> Will a USB 2.0 enabled MP3 player work on a USB 1.1 connection?
[11:17] <dli> !anyone
[11:17] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:17] <mwe> support*
[11:17] <sethk> mattttttt, so just configure the space you want to use for ubuntu and install.
[11:17] <wodger> if you have windows or mac in my place on another partion it sets up dual boot autmaticly
[11:17] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: I think you need to clearly describe your problem
[11:17] <Bonez56> I just recompiled my kernel, now X wont start, it says in the log that it could not load the nvidia kernel modules. what do i have to do?
[11:17] <argunda> hi, I installed flash for firefox (ubuntu) and it wont work
[11:17] <siennalizardafk> grampajoe: should do..
[11:17] <sethk> Bonez56, when you change kernel versions, you have to rebuild the nvidia drivers
[11:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Bonez56: Recompile
[11:17] <dli> Bonez56, you have to follow the nvidia howto :(
[11:17] <NxNxMox> hey guys
[11:17] <Bonez56> sethk: last time I installed them I used automatix to do it.
[11:17] <sethk> Bonez56, so do exactly what you did initially when you installed the nvidia drivers
[11:17] <NxNxMox> I have a problem with booting
[11:18] <NxNxMox> well, booting it up.. like, at all. tried 5.10 a while ago, and am now trying 6.06, i put the disc in (it's live cd for 6.06 if you didn't now) and like, it goes through bootup process, gets to configuring X and sits for a long time, then jumps to a blank screen with an underscore in the top corner...
[11:18] <sethk> Bonez56, I don't use automatix, so I don't know if you can use it again
[11:18] <Snach> Do sombody know a program where i can download Mp3 and things like that??
[11:18] <mattttttt> my problem is I'm not sure what it wants me to do. I boot up the install CD, then get to a section about partitioning and it wants me to choose one
[11:18] <PowerCat> NxNxMox usually an underscore is a badthing.
[11:18] <jbroome> firefox
[11:18] <Bonez56> sethk: well at the moment i can't even start x. i think ill edit the xorg file and change it to vesa or nv and see if that will get me going
[11:18] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: How much unallocated space is available
[11:18] <NxNxMox> What can I do?
[11:18] <mattttttt> i don't know what to choose...
[11:18] <sethk> Bonez56, easier to use dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[11:18] <wodger> it's asking where to install matt
[11:19] <skavenge> automatix is trash, you'd know how to do it if they were installed correctly the first time
[11:19] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: not sure, can I check without booting up the install cd?
[11:19] <Bonez56> sethk, thanks ill give it a shot
[11:19] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: you may need to shrink one of your partitions
[11:19] <Snach> Do sombody know a program where i can download Mp3 and things like that??
[11:19] <bigcx2> Snach: frostwire
[11:19] <mattttttt> btw, I chose the "resize" option
[11:19] <jbroome> Snach: google
[11:19] <pilha> ooh, looky: Update Manager found out about 6.06 all by itself :)
[11:19] <siennalizardafk> Snach: I think you're thinking of amule (universe repo)
[11:19] <Tintin> Snach: valknut
[11:19] <mattttttt> not sure if that's what I want to do...
[11:19] <Snach> Tnx
[11:19] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: you can either let it sort things out for you automatically, or do a manual partition, I presume you are using the livecd?
[11:19] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: Boot XP and run PArtition magic and unallocate some space by shrinking an existing partition until you have maybe 20 ig free
[11:19] <pilha> <-- human is happy w/ linux for humans
[11:20] <NxNxMox> ?
[11:20] <pilha> ok, so thx a lot evr'yone
[11:20] <siennalizardafk> mattttttt: I'd recommend using a live cd with gparted on it.
[11:20] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: no, I was using the install CD. I want linux and windows available, on different partitions...
[11:20] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: You are in WIndows now I assume?
[11:20] <PowerCat> NxNxMox: I'm trying to install ubuntu
[11:20] <mattttttt> yup on XP now
[11:20] <haary> How can I change locales in Dapper? dpkg-reconfigure locales, like in Debian, doesn't work
[11:20] <NxNxMox> yeah but um.. what can I do?
[11:20] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: what do you see for partitions
[11:21] <PowerCat> NxNxMox: I don't know.
[11:21] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: how big is your hard drive
[11:21] <vakosel> can you get amsn from synaptic.. cant find it  and when i installed the ubuntu package doesnt install because of lack of tcl tk
[11:21] <mattttttt> how can I check?
[11:21] <vakosel> any idea
[11:21] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: do what Jack_Sparrow told you to do, first shrink your windows partition to make room for ubuntu linux
[11:21] <NxNxMox> well, booting it up.. like, at all. tried 5.10 a while ago, and am now trying 6.06, i put the disc in (it's live cd for 6.06 if you didn't now) and like, it goes through bootup process, gets to configuring X and sits for a long time, then jumps to a blank screen with an underscore in the top corner...
[11:21] <siennalizardafk> haary: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7331
[11:21] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: you dont know how big your hard drive is?
[11:21] <mattttttt> 58.8 GB i see
[11:22] <mattttttt> as Capacity
[11:22] <Jack_Sparrow> IS that just one partition?
[11:22] <siennalizardafk> vakosel: have you got the multiverse and universe repos enabled?
[11:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: IS that just one partition?
[11:22] <ricardo> hi everybody...
[11:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: NTFS I assume?
[11:22] <vakosel> no !
[11:22] <vakosel> that is the solutiion e?
[11:22] <ricardo> does anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?
[11:22] <mattttttt> i guess so. in windows now, right clicked c:, under general, capacity is 58.8
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt:  how full is your drive
[11:23] <siennalizardafk> !repos
[11:23] <ArAnWe> please.help.me...my.<space>.just.doesn't.work.....
[11:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:23] <siennalizardafk> !repos > vakosel
[11:23] <Snach> How do i open .rpm files and install them? ( Im new;P )
[11:23] <vakosel> thx a lot  fot your help!!
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Snach: You dont
[11:23] <gnomefreak> Snach: you try not to
[11:23] <mattttttt> 43.3 it says
[11:23] <gnomefreak> Snach: look for a .deb file
[11:23] <ttyfscker> hrm
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Snach: get .deb
[11:23] <ttyfscker> nero for linux?
[11:23] <ttyfscker> anybody tried it?
[11:23] <jrib> Snach: you should use the repositories instead
[11:24] <siennalizardafk> Snach: what are you trying to get?
[11:24] <Snach> Frostwire
[11:24] <monteiro> ttyfscker : why do you want nero if you have k3b ?
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ttyfscker: I like K3b
[11:24] <gatekeeper> Snach: first question why do you want to install an rpm, is the software not in your pacakage management?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> !frostwire
[11:24] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:24] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: 43.3 it says
[11:24] <ttyfscker> Snach:: if you have an rpm then you can convert it to deb with the alien command
[11:24] <Mikeport> hello what is the channel for Ubuntu Desktop Support?
[11:24] <tsume> never heard of frostwire
[11:24] <naotemphome> hello from paris
[11:24] <siennalizardafk> Mikeport: welcome home!
[11:24] <jrib> Mikeport: welcome to it :)
[11:24] <tsume> Mikeport: certainly
[11:24] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: not recommended to use alien
[11:24] <ttyfscker> monteiro:: i personally dont prefer apps that were designed for kde..
[11:25] <Snach> Okej'
[11:25] <Mikeport> thanks
[11:25] <tsume> ttyfscker: I perfer apps which improve productivity
[11:25] <Mikeport> jeje
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: not to mention there is a .deb for frostwire
[11:25] <khoda`> How do i uncompress a .tar.Z file
[11:25] <ttyfscker> gnomefreak:: it may not be recommended. but some things are only available in rpm
[11:25] <ArAnWe> hello_from_czech_republic
[11:25] <Nutubuntu> When I upgraded to Dapper, TeTex would not install. It still won't. The problem is with tetex-bin. It blows up when it's being configured. Can anyone help me solve this?
[11:25] <haary> siennalizardafk: Yeah, but what can I do to force Ubuntu to generate ISO8859 locales in the first place? It only generates UTF-8
[11:25] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: You have two choices, use partition magic in XP or Gparted on live CD to shrink your windows partition, but you are not leaving yourself much room if you are using 43.3 of 58.8
[11:26] <Snach> No its not in my pacage management, and i dont know how to install anything
[11:26] <khoda`> how do i decompress a .tar.z file ??
[11:26] <gnomefreak> !frostwire > Snach
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Snach: read your pm
[11:26] <ArAnWe> haven't_someone_met_problem_that_his_<space>_stopped_working_after_he_was_setting_keyboard_shortcuts
[11:26] <siennalizard> khoda`: try unzip on the file first.
[11:26] <ricardo> does anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?
[11:26] <Jack_Sparrow> khoda`: what are you trying to install
[11:26] <Mikeport> I have a soundblaster audigy 2 ZS and nvidia 6800 pci express, and I want to know how to install it the right way, the best support for both of them , any one ?
[11:26] <wodger> matt if you have a desktop maybe a 2nd hardrive might well be a sound investment
[11:26] <siennalizard> Jack_Sparrow: that's the question i should have started with...
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ArAnWe: remove the last shortcut you made before space bar stopped working
[11:27] <khoda`> Jack_Sparrow: drivers for my mobo. Specifically LAN drivers. my internet is going really slow on linux
[11:27] <nzx_> hey, how do refresh the gnome menu panel ?
[11:27] <sethk> ArAnWe, you can delete your gnome state files (or kde state files if you use kde) and that will remove the configuration
[11:27] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: is partition magic built into XP? where is it?
[11:27] <siennalizard> nzx_: kill it.
[11:27] <gnomefreak> nzx_: killall gnome-panel
[11:27] <jrib> nzx_: killall gnome-panel
[11:27] <sethk> ArAnWe, but you'll lose all your config, so that's a brute force way to handle it.
[11:27] <nzx_> thanks
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: No PM is NOT part of XP and is not free.
[11:27] <ArAnWe> gnomefreak:I_removed_all_shortcuts_i_have_done__but_it_doesn't_work
[11:27] <siennalizard> mattttttt: google is your friend.
[11:27] <jvai_> hey does  firefox 1.08 has rss by default? i lost mine from the easyubuntu upgrade
[11:27] <sethk> ArAnWe, if you want to keep the rest of your config, you'll have to find the particular file that has shortcuts in it.
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> khoda`: What type of lan card?
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> broadcomm.?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ArAnWe: than do as sethk suggested
[11:28] <khoda`> its integrated in my mobo. Mobo: Asus a8n5x
[11:28] <mattttttt> i see...
[11:28] <Mikeport> anyone has a link to a perfect install of Ubuntu 6.06 desktop ?
[11:28] <Rasmus89> how do I unmount?
[11:28] <sethk> Rasmus89, umount
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> khoda`: Look up the chipset...
[11:28] <siennalizard> Rasmus89: normally as root, umount
[11:28] <ArAnWe> gnomefreak,sethk::'(...that_was_what_i_was_scared_of
[11:28] <khoda`> Jack_Sparrow: nforce4
[11:29] <Tintin> dli: You are genius!
[11:29] <Rasmus89> !unmount
[11:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about unmount - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:29] <Rasmus89> !umount
[11:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about umount - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:29] <Rasmus89> !unmounting
[11:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about unmounting - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:29] <Bonez> I am currently running kernel 2.6.15-23 but when I recompiled a custom kernel it now shows up as version 2.6.15-7, am I now running an older kernel?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Rasmus89: dont play with the bot
[11:29] <khoda`> Ja
[11:29] <khoda`> Jack_Sparrow: what do you mean?
[11:29] <jvai_> hey does  firefox 1.08 has rss by default? i lost mine from the easyubuntu upgrade
[11:30] <Rasmus89> but the umount -h doesnt make sence
[11:30] <micahcowan> Rasmus89: umount, followed by an argument of either the mount point or the device that's mounted.
[11:30] <Rasmus89> *s
[11:30] <micahcowan> what's wrong with umount -h?
[11:30] <sethk> Rasmus89, to find out how to use a command, use man.  thus:   man umount
[11:30] <Bonez> help
[11:30] <Mikeport> XGL
[11:30] <sethk> micahcowan, nothing but that may not be what he wants to do.
[11:30] <Bonez> I am currently running kernel 2.6.15-23 but when I recompiled a custom kernel it now shows up as version 2.6.15-7, am I now running an older kernel?
[11:30] <micahcowan> sethk: er, right. just realized that's not a "help" option. :)
[11:31] <sethk> micahcowan, sorry, I misread your flag
[11:31] <jbroome> Bonez: might want to wait longer than a minute before reasking
[11:31] <sethk> micahcowan, it's a short help, which in many cases is fine
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Bonez: 2.6.15-7 is older than 2.6.15-23
[11:31] <micahcowan> sethk, is it? on FreeBSD it's not a short help...
[11:31] <micahcowan> it stands for "host" :)
[11:31] <jereth_da_lion> hello
[11:31] <Mikeport> anyone knows how to optimize the Audigy 2ZS sound in 6.06 ?
[11:31] <khoda`> how do you uncompress a .tar.Z file?
[11:32] <sethk> micahcowan, true, but the linux umount has it as help
[11:32] <sethk> umount, that is.
[11:32] <jereth_da_lion> just a very quick question for the gurus here
[11:32] <Bonez> gnomefreak, i am wondering why this happened. I installed the linux-source and all other packages directly from aptitude
[11:32] <gnomefreak> khoda`: tar xzvf
[11:32] <jereth_da_lion> what kernel does ubuntu badger run
[11:32] <BaadPete> thanks for the help - think i'll go back to XP until they fix this bug, whatever it is!
[11:32] <micahcowan> Rasmus89, have you figured it out yet?
[11:32] <sethk> micahcowan, there are many many things that don't follow the options and such of real unix.
[11:32] <gnomefreak> jereth_da_lion: 2.6.12
[11:32] <jereth_da_lion> does it support scsi on installation ?
[11:32] <ompaul> !info linux-image badger
[11:32] <ubotu> Package linux-image does not exist in dapper
[11:33] <chowells> khoda`: uncompress
[11:33] <micahcowan> sethk, yeah, GNU loves doing that. ...and many UNIXen can differ on such things...
[11:33] <chowells> gnomefreak: no, that's for gzip.
[11:33] <gnomefreak> chowells: no thats for tar.gz
[11:33] <khoda`> Is there a fast way to get to the terminal?
[11:33] <Bonez> !info linux-source dapper
[11:33] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[11:33] <Rasmus89> isnt it possible to say umount cdrom0 ?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> should also work on tar.g
[11:33] <m0gsi> Hey guys how far along is edgy?
[11:33] <jrib> khoda`: applications > accessories > terminal
[11:33] <chowells> gnomefreak: yes. and tar.Z isn't gzipped
[11:33] <khoda`> jrib: faster?
[11:33] <micahcowan> Rasmus89, that should probably be umount /dev/cdrom0 ?
[11:34] <khoda`> jrib: like a keystroke
[11:34] <mattttttt> I take it it wouldn't be worth it for me to put ubuntu on a different partition?
[11:34] <jrib> khoda`: make a launcher, bind a key
[11:34] <siennalizard> khoda`: you can set a key for opening a terminal in System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:34] <Rasmus89> it says: it seems /media/cdrom8 is mounted multiple times
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> khoda`: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=468431&st=0
[11:34] <OoberMick> gnomefreak: should be Zxvf for Z, zxvf for gz
[11:34] <siennalizard> Rasmus89: if you use -f, it will unmount it forcibly.
[11:35] <khoda`> I'm trying to install drivers and the readme says run pkgadd - but the command is not found. whats goin on?
[11:35] <jereth_da_lion> whats drake run ?
[11:35] <micahcowan> Rasmus89, that's not good...
[11:35] <micahcowan> what siennalizard said.
[11:35] <Rasmus89> there thanks
[11:35] <gnomefreak> OoberMick: i havent man tar in a while but i dont remember a Z (manning it now
[11:35] <gr33npho3nix> khoda`: pkgadd tends to be a unix thing from what i've seen
[11:35] <zymorph> how do I setup a script in /etc/init.d/ to launch, say, a shoutcast server?
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: You clearly dont understand.  Ubuntu creates its own partition and a swap partition,
[11:35] <gr33npho3nix> mostly free and open bsd
[11:35] <Bonez> !info kernel-headers dapper
[11:35] <ubotu> Package kernel-headers does not exist in dapper
[11:35] <siennalizard> micahcowan: I think you're right, but there's clearly an underlying issue here.
[11:35] <zymorph> I have the files unzipped and I have the server working, but I want to set it up as a service
[11:35] <haary> What can I do to force Ubuntu to generate ISO8859 instead of  UTF-8
[11:35] <gr33npho3nix> khoda`: you sure the readme/drivers are for linux
[11:36] <micahcowan> siennalizard, unless it was mounted manually after, say, an automount
[11:36] <khoda`> gr33npho3nix: it was in the 'linux' folder thats all i know
[11:36] <siennalizard> micahcowan: but it would be in the mtab, so mount shouldn't do it...
[11:36] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: I realize that now, but it won't have much room apparrently, unless I shrink the XP partition
[11:36] <mattttttt> correct?
[11:36] <micahcowan> haary, are you talking about terminal output?
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> khoda, you have two network cards, which are you using
[11:36] <haary> micahcowan: yes
[11:36] <NxNxMox> well, booting it up.. like, at all. tried 5.10 a while ago, and am now trying 6.06, i put the disc in (it's live cd for 6.06 if you didn't now) and like, it goes through bootup process, gets to configuring X and sits for a long time, then jumps to a blank screen with an underscore in the top corner...
[11:36] <Rasmus89> !wmv
[11:36] <micahcowan> siennalizard, current mount allows it, I believe... as a... "feature"?
[11:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: and you dont have much room to shrink your XP
[11:37] <siennalizard> micahcowan: that's frightening.
[11:37] <khoda`> Jack_Sparrow: i only have on ethernet port on my computer
[11:37] <micahcowan> haary, is your terminal currently set to interpret ISO8859?
[11:37] <zymorph> how do I setup a script in /etc/init.d/ to launch, say, a shoutcast server?
[11:37] <zymorph> I have the files unzipped and I have the server working, but I want to set it up as a service
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: just tell the installer to shrink your ex=isting partition.
[11:37] <haary> micahcowan: yes
[11:37] <micahcowan> siennalizard, I could be wrong, but seem to remember that. I agree, it's really, really dumb.
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> khoda, I thought those had two, one is a marvel
[11:37] <haary> micahcowan: and not UTF-8
[11:37] <micahcowan> haary, what's the output of the locale command?
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> the other nforce/gigabit
[11:37] <khoda`> Jack_Sparrow: what's a marvel? but i ensure you i only have one
[11:37] <micahcowan> (summarize)
[11:38] <diskotec|w> I'm trying to install Zope3 and I'm getting...  Zope3: no instances found.  The folks in #zope told me to ask here because they think I'd need to enable extra repositories.  Which repositories would I use..any suggestions?
[11:38] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: i used the shrink option last time, then it wanted me to choose a partition and that's where i got confused
[11:38] <micahcowan> siennalizard, yeah, I just remounted /dev/hda1 (/) on /tmp/foo. (!)
[11:38] <mattttttt> or choose something.
[11:38] <khoda`> Jack_Sparrow: i've only got one... and it works fine with windoze
[11:38] <Velorium> skavenge: aha, it was hiding
[11:38] <gbdm> Anybody know why I get "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found." when I try to modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:39] <siennalizard> micahcowan: A highly desirable feature indeed!
[11:39] <skavenge> Velorium: found it?
[11:39] <Nutubuntu> When I upgraded to Dapper, TeTex would not install. It still won't. The problem is with tetex-bin. It blows up when it's being configured. Can anyone help me solve this?
[11:39] <Velorium> skavenge: well not really, i wasnt in the sysmantic thing when i was looking, i was searching in add/remove
[11:39] <haary> micahcowan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18814
[11:39] <skavenge> Velorium: aah, okay, you have it installed now though?
[11:39] <siennalizard> micahcowan: i expect one day they'll add "feature" that spots when you're trying to mount again, and silently simlink!
[11:39] <Snach> How do i open .deb file, if im supose to open it? i dont know wath to do..
[11:40] <ArAnWe> whole_gnome_settings_are_located_in_/home/user/.gnome,/home/user/.gnome2&/home/user/.gnome2_private___?????
[11:40] <skavenge> Snach: double click on it
[11:40] <Velorium> skavenge: ndiswrapper, yes, but look here and you'll see what i'm having issues with (i'm booted back into windows right now)
[11:40] <micahcowan> siennalizard, now that I think about it, that's not the same problem, though: that's multiple mounts of same device on different dirs. I can't currently reproduce multiple mounts at same point...
[11:40] <jrib> Nutubuntu: I think I had your problem, post your exact error on pastebin and I'll check it out
[11:40] <Snach> it comes an error when i dubble click
[11:40] <siennalizard> Snach: in nautilus, double-click. in a terminal, dpkg -i <filename>
[11:40] <Nutubuntu> jrib, will do
[11:40] <Velorium> skavenge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18813
[11:40] <jvai_> does win xp have a default irc client?
[11:40] <skavenge> Snach: you running dapper? try 'sudo dpkg -i packagenamehere' from the terminal then
[11:40] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: this might explain thing a little better here they first install windows (already done on your pc) then they install ubuntu, take a look, might help you understand the process a bit better: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[11:41] <Velorium> also remember i was doing instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[11:41] <geokok> hi, I need to edit a file for firestarter and i have to use "visudo". I can edit it but i dont know how to save or exit afterwards....any tips?
[11:41] <siennalizard> micahcowan: is that what you think the problem is? that's pretty severe!
[11:41] <Snach> ok
[11:41] <siennalizard> geokok: type :wq
[11:41] <geokok> :wq
[11:41] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: thanks, watching now
[11:41] <geokok> in the console u mean?
[11:41] <ArAnWe> all_gnome_settings_are_located_in_/home/user/.gnome,/home/user/.gnome2&/home/user/.gnome2_private___?????
[11:41] <SanketMedhi> geokok: Esc then :wq
[11:41] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: yw :-)
[11:42] <skavenge> Velorium: did you modprobe -l to see if hardware and driver were present?
[11:42] <siennalizard> geokok: my bad. you were still in insert mode.
[11:42] <gbdm> Anybody know why I get "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found." when I try to modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:42] <geokok> :wq
[11:42] <geokok> doesnt seem to do anything...
[11:42] <Velorium> skavenge: no i did not, i really dont even know what those instructions do, i was doing what it said at the link i posted above
[11:43] <micahcowan> haary, just to double-check, can you also post "locale -a"?
[11:43] <siennalizard> geokok: sorry. visudo used to open an editor called vi. I've just tried now, and it uses pico instead. try ctrl-x
[11:43] <naut> What's the correct way to set the user id of a service from an init script?
[11:43] <geokok> will it save as well?
[11:43] <skavenge> Velorium: like i said i really think you need to use the link i posted to you about ndiswrapper, this one your using skips an important step
[11:43] <siennalizard> geokok: it should ask.
[11:43] <geokok> k..thanks
[11:43] <naut> I'm using su -c , but that seems like a bit of a hack
[11:44] <Velorium> skavenge: remember, i missed that line, so i lack that link
[11:44] <Mikeport> !info audigy
[11:44] <ubotu> Package audigy does not exist in dapper
[11:44] <Velorium> >_>
[11:44] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: is there a way to do it without having to backup everything, format, reinstall XP, etc?
[11:44] <vakosel> last question for today ! i received the 5 cds from the site ! the first was the live cd the other 4 what to they have ?:
[11:44] <micahcowan> siennalizard: well, Rassmus89's message seemed to refer to /media/cdrom8 (8?!)
[11:44] <Mikeport> !info 6.06
[11:44] <ubotu> Package 6.06 does not exist in dapper
[11:44] <siennalizard> geokok: to save, it's ctrl-o
[11:44] <micahcowan> being mounted multiple times
[11:44] <Mikeport> !help
[11:44] <skavenge> Velorium: i've posted it like 5 times to you ;)
[11:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:44] <Velorium> skavenge: and i forgot to ask about it before once again
[11:44] <SanketMedhi> !audigy > Mikeport
[11:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about audigy  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:44] <geokok> k
[11:44] <flavioribeiro> my connection is very slow.. http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/474  whats the problem?
[11:44] <Velorium> skavenge: then i am one blind SOB
[11:45] <micahcowan> siennalizard: anyway, I do remember some situation where / was multiply mounted. That may /not/ have been a "feature"...
[11:45] <Velorium> a #6 then for me? -.-; heh
[11:45] <haary> micahcowan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18815
[11:45] <Velorium> i really need to put mirc on highlight...
[11:45] <vakosel> any idea whta the 5 cds from the site contain? the first is th live cd the others?
[11:46] <carajean> anyone know any good websites for applets
[11:46] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: backup + reinstall is only if you mess up, you pays your money and takes your choice!!
[11:46] <siennalizard> carajean: what, java applets? to do what?
[11:46] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: there is another option
[11:46] <carajean> like time and date little fun stuff like that
[11:46] <siennalizard> carajean: oh, right. try gdesklets
[11:47] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: which is?
[11:47] <carajean> sweet thanks
[11:47] <skavenge> Velorium: well your on the right track, but ndiswrapper -l will show you whether the driver and hardware are both present, that tells us everything is installed right, from your paste i dont see anything to tell me it is, ndiswrapper and the drivers need to be totally working before networking issues are going to be resolved
[11:47] <pery_soy> hi
[11:48] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: you could do what I have done, buy another hard disk, and a caddy system, then decide at boot time whether you want to use the windows hdd, or linux one
[11:48] <Nutubuntu> jrib - sorry that took so long; here is the output of "apt-get install tetex-bin" showing the failure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18816
[11:48] <ricardo> does anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?
[11:48] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: laptop. :(
[11:48] <pery_soy> what is file that change domain name????
[11:48] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: which is why I think it probably isn't worth it
[11:48] <Velorium> skavenge: alright, and once more, that link? heh, i'm really sorry lol
[11:48] <zOap> does anyone know of a good vob to avi/divx/mpeg converter?
[11:48] <skavenge> Velorium: the log says ndiswrapper is loading but i dont know if the card is detecting it
[11:48] <siennalizard> pery_soy: do you want to change your computer's hostname?
[11:49] <carajean> seems i have forgotten how to install a prog with linux
[11:49] <micahcowan> haary, hang on, sorry
[11:49] <jrib> Nutubuntu: ok yeah these are the same errors I got, let me see if I can find the same thread that helped me out
[11:49] <carajean> what is the hot key for the terminal?
[11:49] <pery_soy> siennalizard hostname no, only domain for red
[11:49] <Nutubuntu> T/y **1000, jrib :)
[11:49] <Mikeport> !info xgl
[11:49] <ubotu> Package xgl does not exist in dapper
[11:49] <Mikeport> !info xchat
[11:49] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[11:49] <gbdm> Anybody know why I get "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found." when I try to modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:49] <skavenge> Velorium: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper , make sure you use the 'without internet on ubuntu computer' option for the instructions
[11:50] <flavioribeiro> my connection is very slow.. http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/474  whats the problem?
[11:50] <PowerCat> is it possible to restore my MBR to a windows state from within the ubuntu live CD?
[11:50] <haary> micahcowan: I just want to use ISO8859-15 instead of UTF-8.
[11:50] <skavenge> Velorium: those instructions even give you a GUI to deal with ndiswrapper with
[11:50] <skavenge> PowerCat: no
[11:50] <siennalizard> PowerCat: can't you use the repair feature on the winxp install cd?
[11:50] <ardchoille> Would it be safe to do: killall gnome-session  in order to log out a user?
[11:50] <n0l0nX> hi all
[11:50] <haary> It can't be that complicated? It's easy in Debian...
[11:50] <skavenge> PowerCat: wincd or a bootdisk is all thats gonna do it
[11:51] <siennalizard> ardchoille: best not to.
[11:51] <PowerCat> siennalizard: my only windows CD is slipstreamed (sata drivers) unattended... so I can't do anyting with it
[11:51] <PowerCat> I don't have a floppy drive! arg
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> PowerCat: You may be able to install grub, but you can boot to command prompt with windows cd and fdisk /mbr there
[11:51] <siennalizard> ardchoille: why do you want to? to script it?
[11:51] <HellDragon> ok we've got a problem, cross contamination, we need to move PowerCat out of the way
[11:51] <Hoxzer> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236 <--- :D guys for some reason I find this humoristic
[11:51] <gnufied> from shell, how do i view top memory consuming processes? i read through "top" man pages...but it doesn't seem to have a interactive key for that
[11:52] <siennalizard> gnufied: top
[11:52] <micahcowan> haary, -1, or -15? Anyway, if I read the locale output right, you only have UTF8 support installed... lemme check that out.
[11:52] <ardchoille> siennalizard: I have 6 users on this box setup on a user schedule, there are times that one user will refuse to log out so the next user can log in. I need to be able to log a user out whether they want to log out or not.
[11:52] <siennalizard> gnufied: sorry!
[11:52] <PowerCat> damn my ubuntu live Cd doesn't boot anymore. it freezes at configuring power management
[11:52] <PowerCat> my computer is broken because of linux!
[11:52] <siennalizard> gnufied: use shift-< and shift->
[11:52] <haary> micahcowan: OK, how can I install ISO8859-15?
[11:52] <skavenge> gnufied: if you feel like installing htop its a little easier to read and i believe it may show processes by order of amount of usage
[11:52] <jrib> Nutubuntu: ok I can't find the thread but I ahve a fairly good memory of what I did.  First, purge the following packages: tetex-bin tetex-extra tetex-base tetex-common
[11:52] <Velorium> skavenge: alright, well i'm off to try once again... lol
[11:52] <siennalizard> gnufied: that lets you change which column top is sorting by
[11:52] <Velorium> it's probably just me being completely oblivous to the situation
[11:53] <gnufied> siennalizard,skavenge: thanks, both of you
[11:53] <Jack_Sparrow> PowerCat: Your computer may not boot but it isnt Ubuntu's problem that you scratched the cd
[11:53] <jrib> Nutubuntu: sorry, that's tex-common, not tetex-common
[11:53] <gnufied> i am just puzzled, something is eating my system memory...and i am trying to track it down
[11:53] <skavenge> Velorium: we need to know ndiswrapper is totally working then we can figure out the networking
[11:53] <Hoxzer> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236 <--- :D guys for some reason I find this humoristic
[11:53] <Nutubuntu> jrib - can I purge via Synaptic? or should I use an apt-get cmd?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> Hoxzer: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[11:54] <jrib> Nutubuntu: it's probably easier to just do: sudo apt-get remove --purge package1 package2 ...
[11:54] <siennalizard> gnufied: you're taking the right approach. when you find it, we'll see if it's best to kill it and restart it. It might be that pesky cups leak if you haven't updated in a while.
[11:54] <SanketMedhi> Nutubuntu: right-click on package and select Remove completely
[11:54] <gnomefreak> in synaptic it is completely remove = (remove --purge)
[11:54] <jonah1980_2> do any dudes in here know if it's possible to convert a wmv file to avi or mpg within ubuntu? i can't find a way and i wonder if there's even a freeware prog i can use in wine but there don't seem to be any of those either, they're all shareware and just encode 1min of vid or something
[11:54] <Nutubuntu> t/y jrib - will do
[11:55] <jrib> Nutubuntu: now after that I think I also had to manually delete /etc/texmf/* but since I am not sure, just try to install without doing that first
[11:55] <gnufied> siennalizard: no it shouldn't be cups....i am running some sort of Apache2.2, mongrel,rails cluster!! and often fight with gnuplot zombies....life is funny
[11:56] <gatekeeper> mattttttt: only you can decide whether it is worth it or not, ubuntu will probable need about 6Gb (including swap) to work with, there are other distrobutions that have an even smaller footprint like Damn Small Linux, and if you just want to experiment with a linux desktop, use either a live CD or take a look at cosmopod.com
[11:56] <skavenge> anyway to get gkrellm to run in systray vs taskbar?
[11:56] <IceTox> Hello! I'm having some problems with the keyboard settings. I've fixed whatever needs to be fixed in System->Keyboard->Layout, but still no action. Any of you guys happend to know how I can fix this? I want the Norwegian Keyboard Layout.
[11:56] <Nutubuntu> jrib - ran into an error, as follows (hope it's okay to just put it up here): The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[11:56] <Nutubuntu>   texinfo: Depends: tex-common but it is not going to be installedor
[11:56] <Nutubuntu>                     tetex-bin (< 3.0) but it is not going to be installed
[11:56] <Nutubuntu> E: Broken packages
[11:57] <jrib> Nutubuntu: this happened when you tried to install again?
[11:57] <ArAnWe> ad not working spacebar: i changed keyboard layout and it is working
[11:57] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: i have 15.4GB left, but Jack_Sparrow said that's not a lot to work with...
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: It is enough
[11:57] <Nutubuntu> jrib - when I tried to apt-get remove --purge
[11:57] <skavenge> depends on how fast you fill it ;)
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> But what did you leave for windows.
[11:57] <mattttttt> gatekeeper: when trying to use my live CD I get read errors or something.
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> mattttttt: leaving nothing for windows will kill XP
[11:58] <jrib> Nutubuntu: k, remove that too but make a note of it so you can add it afterwards (I don't have texinfo installed)
[11:58] <Nutubuntu> jrib - k
[11:58] <vgoltser> so, any player that doesn't crash when streaming to a shoutcast server?
[11:58] <micahcowan> haary, not sure this will work, but see what command outputs look like after you've executed: export LC_ALL=de_DE.ISO8859-15
[12:00] <mattttttt> Jack_Sparrow: makes sense. so if I give ubuntu something like 8GB, that leaves XP with 7.5 to work with still. not sure if it's a good idea or not
[12:00] <Nutubuntu> jrib - apt-get remove --purge seems to have worked okay. It warned me that /etc/texmf wasn't empty so was not removed, though
[12:00] <jvai_> lmao, i learned ubuntu by accident, wound up nuking xp, but i neva went back! it took me months of reading, but now i'm ubuntu all da way