=== purserj [n=purserj@29.124.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === hlabs [n=hlabs@CPE00121788bf68-CM00109558344a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #edubuntu [12:32] erf [12:42] hey guys is there any software similar to limewire in edubuntu [12:44] hlabs: I'm sure there is, I just don't know of any off hand, I've never used limewire type apps [12:44] hlabs: I'd suggest asking #ubuntu [12:45] yeah thats a good idea [12:45] hlabs: basically, all software in edubuntu is part of ubuntu universes === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #edubuntu [12:46] yeah i used frostwire but the darn thing does not work on my ubuntu [12:48] is ther any other p2p software like lime wire [12:48] hlabs: no idea, i dont use them ,sorry [12:48] only ssh [12:48] :D [12:48] well does any one download music of the net man [12:49] nope [12:49] hlabs: maybe in #ubuntu? [12:50] hlabs: at least IMHO, as a teacher I can't encourage P2P (for ilegal stuff) among students [12:51] i know. Just wanted to know if it was possible. Well no worries i still have 3 months access to itunes [12:51] heheheh [12:51] it is possible, sure [12:51] Many have done it === arkan0x is now known as arkan0x_once [12:56] heh [12:57] hey is there any way that you can logoff a user from their session === mhz is now known as mhz_work === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #edubuntu [12:57] hlabs, student control panel? [12:57] pygi: as kiosk? [12:57] and this will only work with terminal service or any other method as well [12:58] mhz_work, hm? [12:58] hlabs, I assumed you are talking edubuntu server/client [12:58] ohh, i had missed last line [12:58] sorry === mhz_work BB in 2 hours tops [12:59] ok its workable on the Serv/Client Great === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd_ [n=RichardW@dsl-146-161-59.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #edubuntu === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #edubuntu === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #edubuntu === th1a_desk [n=hoffman@pool-64-222-61-170.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu [02:56] heh === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-10-33-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [03:02] Heya [03:24] hey [03:28] re === mhz_work is now known as mhz [03:54] hey [03:55] hey jsgotangco [03:58] mhz! [04:00] Heya jsgotangco [04:03] hey [04:48] jsgotangco: OT/ you do have a Zaurus SL-5500, don't you? [04:48] yes somewhere [04:48] lol === mhz slaps jsgotangco [04:49] its somewhere at home for sure [04:49] c'mon, those are precious little great toys [04:49] sure [04:49] if they're useful [04:49] jsgotangco: and do you remember which ROM you had it with? [04:49] my cellphone is more useful than that [04:49] i only use OZ [04:50] since i used to be part of the project [04:50] okis, that is Opie Desktop [04:50] yeah === mhz is so glad to meet people from embedded development [04:51] jsgotangco: the thing is that opie desktop roms seems to suck the crappy battery power very quickly [04:52] i thought it was from the kernel instead of the desktop? [04:52] and Sharp ROMs are not for me, but battery lasts longer [04:52] opie desktop based roms [04:53] jsgotangco: anyways, besides that battery issue, my current prob. is that older sharp ROM had Addressbook,xml [04:53] . [04:54] current Sharp ROM does not have any addressbook file [04:54] or one I can find [04:54] yes [04:54] so, jsgotangco have you ever synced the Z with Linux (via any GUI app)? [04:55] I did that before in the early development of KitchenSync === mhz needs to get those 500 entries [04:55] but if i still have my old stuff i cannot say [04:55] lol [04:55] okis [04:56] jsgotangco: and you still have friends in that OZ team? friends I can contact quickly? (faster than idling on #channel waiting for someone who actually knows what I need) [04:56] i cannot say [04:56] ok === mhz stops the OT then [04:56] the one i knew who started the project moved to TI years ago === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #edubuntu [04:57] jsgotangco: one last OT question (/me takes adavantage knowing jsgotangco's geographic zone)... [04:58] sure [04:59] 10 or 11 inches laptops, with at least 9 GB of HD, 512 MB of RAM, 1 RJ45, 1 PCMCIA, 1 USB, bootable from external CD drive (at least)... U$150... Are they manufactured near your area (close country?) [05:00] yes [05:00] some of them don't use internal batteries [05:00] jsgotangco: nice!!! [05:00] i dont use them [05:00] heh [05:00] jsgotangco: any hints where I can start looking up? [05:01] let me check === mhz googled but only got Chineese and India and google just sucked at translation === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu [05:15] jsgotangco: still there? === Yagisan waves hello [05:28] hi Yagisan [05:29] hi === lecaros [n=JoseLeca@243-12-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [05:30] I got good news today. My adsl plan is discontinued - and I may be disconnected at anytime between now and the 30th === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #edubuntu [05:30] usn't that wonderful :( [05:32] that stinks [05:34] yes I thought so too. Telstra inscreased DSLAM costs, so my ISP went - we won't make any money on this plan anymore - lets tell the customer to pay more or turf him :( [05:40] eeek! Jeff Elkner on video! [05:40] IIntriducingPython.mpg :D [05:45] mhz, no!!! - I already have eye issues [05:48] Yagisan: hehehe [05:48] but it is a nice video indeed [05:48] mhz, actually - seriously - I see red spots that don't exist o_O [05:48] starring Eric Raymonf too [05:49] Yagisan: ooooh, communist eyes? === HedgeMage peeks in [05:49] Hi guys :) [05:49] Yagisan: the only way I can fight physical probs. is via sports [05:50] HedgeMage: hi girl [05:50] mhz, no. floating bright red spots. The specalists will take $150 of me tommorow to say "I don't know why you see those spots" [05:50] Yagisan: stress ! [05:50] may be the drug... [05:50] no need to spend that [05:50] lecaros: :D [05:50] lol [05:50] that too [05:51] heh [05:51] Yagisan, what about your heart? === HedgeMage smooches mhz [05:51] lecaros, I have kids, I can't afford drugs [05:51] How's it going? [05:51] lecaros, heart seems fine. [05:51] Yagisan, just kidding :) === mhz thought he'd get kisses from HedgeMage for the "girl" thing [05:51] lol === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [05:51] hummm, do you use glasses? [05:52] lecaros, nope. I have 20/15 vision :) [05:52] Yagisan: stress [05:52] yup, may be stress [05:52] Yagisan: Is there something around you might be allergic to or chemically intolerant toward? [05:52] Yagisan: I used to see red spots when I was stressed [05:52] mhz, maybe. It got worse (12 spits now) up from 3 for the last 12 years [05:52] yes! people! [05:52] try walking around... around 3 hours :) === jsgotangco hides [05:53] jsgotangco: i am still waiting for your "let me check" [05:53] A chemically-caused migraine (as opposed to the less severe ones normally brought on by stress) often show red spots along with light nausea as early symptoms, even if you never get to the headache part. [05:53] HedgeMage, can't say. I've been in 2 different states with the same issue. It just got worse lately - more then just mildly annoying === mhz pokes jsgotangco a little bit [05:53] mhz: errmm?? === jsgotangco scrollsback === HedgeMage smooches Yagisan and wishes him the best [05:54] Yagisan: please DO not go to the same hospital your wife was in [05:54] good luck with the eye doctor. [05:54] thanks HedgeMage [05:55] Yagisan: my bet is still stress or blood presure [05:55] mhz, I made sure of that. I'm going toone next to parliment house [05:55] if i were you i'd try Yoga [05:55] mhz, 12 years is a lot of stress [05:55] mhz, I prefer Doom :) === Yagisan counts 8 spots today [05:56] Yagisan: not necesarily... many people -my mom, for instance- suffered from a pain for about 10 years. Shre tried relaxing excercises..no more pain. [05:56] this sucks [05:57] computer is t3h broken [05:57] bye guys [05:57] windows did funny things to my partition table and i broke things trying to fix it [05:57] have a good nite [05:57] lecaros: not good [05:57] mhz, why? [05:57] i have my /etc/environment half in my /etc/fstab and half the files in ~/.xchat2 are gone [05:57] willowng looks fine though [05:57] lecaros, mhz made a typo [05:57] lecaros, good night [05:58] which is good because i haven't pushed the latest version :) [05:58] mhz, i have a meeting in 8:30 hours.. [05:58] eek [05:58] nn, then [05:58] see you! [05:59] c ya [05:59] jsgotangco: jsgotangco: any hints where I can start looking up? [05:59] let me check [05:59] Yagisan, visit a different doctor [05:59] and have a nice week [06:00] Yagisan: a yoga session will be much cheaper than 150 [06:00] wha tif they do help yo? === mhz is typing one handed. sorry [06:00] mhz, ... i won't ask about other hand :p [06:01] mhz, ah, but what if there is a physical defect ?? [06:01] lecaros: ! you latino man! [06:01] mhz, of course [06:02] Yagisan: true... but many Yoga places give one or 2 sessions for free [06:02] free as in free of charge :D [06:04] ok, essentials moved to backup, time to wipe the drive [06:05] back in 40 minutes or so === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-222-61-170.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-222-61-170.prov.east.verizon.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-222-61-170.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_zZzZ === th1a_ [n=th1a@pool-64-223-34-183.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a__ [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-34-183.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a__ is now known as th1a === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-197-177.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [07:14] morning mhz [07:15] pygi: hi.. i'm almost sleeping [07:18] has anyone seen jeff elkner around here? === mhz wonders why he's not around anymore (at least mhz has not seen him since... eeek, too long) [07:19] mhz, nick? [07:19] jelkner [07:19] afaik === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [07:19] nah, pygi /whois does not find him [07:20] maybe he's asleep? :P [07:29] !seen jelkner [07:29] I last saw jelkner (n=jelkner@158.59.225.142) 3d 13h 37m 14s ago, quiting: "Ex-Chat" [07:29] mhz, ^^ [07:30] Yagisan: thx === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz forgets there are bots [07:31] mhz, np. I took a guess as to the bots command [07:33] hi all [07:34] hi, cbx33 === mhz is becoming a kind of spanish-speaker bot ;) [07:37] hows esa translation coming along mhz ? === th1a_ [n=th1a@pool-64-223-34-183.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:38] nice and cool [07:38] I am using a moin instance for it :D [07:40] however, the few hands I have available had to be for diff needs. Then, 4 hands are working on edubuntu.org into es, and my 2 hands on ESA [07:40] so it will take a little longer than I expected (maybe this whole week) [07:41] and then, Handbook is also very important, so I am drafting what I will write about there, too. [07:42] i think you should officially change your name to Moin Hernandez === jsgotangco hides [07:42] and, I am trying to make a couple of wallpapers and themes with Chilean symbols, to see if I can get more Chileans encouraged to join #edubuntu-es [07:42] that's cool [07:43] jsgotangco, haha [07:43] jsgotangco: what do you think 'mhz' stands for? [07:43] mauricio? [07:43] heh [07:44] jsgotangco: BTW, did you get any url about my question for such thin laptops manufactured near you? [07:44] no not at all [07:44] me neither [07:44] im sure i have it in my bookmarks somewhere === mhz needs to find out about such machines [07:47] try looking for an OEM named ECS [07:47] and Twinhead [07:48] jsgotangco: okis, thx === mhz is now known as mhz_zZzZ [07:50] nn all === mhz_zZzZ goes thinking about GvR === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-52-160.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [07:59] new minutes are up [08:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMeetingRecordsNew === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === toosa [n=toosa@202.73.108.83] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [08:50] morning highvoltage ... and anyone else :) [08:53] hi ! I am from Indonesia === highvolt1ge [n=jono@196.1.57.88] has joined #edubuntu [08:54] hello toosa ... greetings from the bottom of Africa - Cape Town, South Africa [08:54] hello RichEd === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [08:55] btw, at 29th July we will held our 2nd Edubuntu IstallFest and Seminar === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [08:56] toosa ... just trying to sort out a problem on my pother machine ... but I am interested to chat about this [08:56] porther <- other [08:56] ok [08:56] i am looking after the education programme ... so i want to hear more ! [08:58] we are living in small town at south of Jakarta (Indonesian Capital) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [08:59] we believe that Edubuntu will suit our Edu Env ... but it need a lot of works to do fo sure [08:59] suite [08:59] (sorry for my poor english) [09:00] well i am here to listen to your comments : your good comments and your issues as well [09:00] no problem with the english at all : i am not be able to speak your language ! [09:00] The effect of so many software pirates here, makes people know M$ more than linux [09:01] not be able <- not able [09:01] :) thx [09:01] hey [09:01] hey jsgotangco :) thought you disappeared earlier [09:01] Me and my firend have wrote an Edubuntu books in Bahasa [09:02] :) [09:02] toosa ... can you send me an email with some background on your installfest event ? [09:02] RichEd_: yeah i had to relocate my machine, its raining so hard here in the office building i had to move my machine somewhere that is not dripping :/ [09:02] and you can include any other comments ! === jsgotangco wants to move out of this forsaken office [09:02] I have a story about that ... wait I am looking for the URL first ... [09:02] toosa : have you submitted your Edubuntu book to the web site for others to access ? [09:03] not yet [09:03] it would be a good idea to share ... [09:03] toosa: richard.edubuntu@gmail.com [09:03] the copyright is owned by the publisher already [09:04] ah ... were you paid to write it ? [09:04] jsgotangco: forgive the trivial response last night ... had a domestic deadline to get to [09:04] RichEd_: no worries im just online anyways [09:05] This the URL (sorry for the poor of my english .. again) http://toosa.oo-linux.com/weblog/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=25&blogId=3 [09:05] so take to heart that ii am very interested in your issues, and how we cope with these with limited resources [09:05] yes, [09:05] we need to address your issues and work out how to move forwards in a wat that grows [09:05] toosa: are you from jakarta? [09:05] way <- way [09:05] the publisher paid me ( not much, but enough for me) [09:06] yes .. I am in Jakarta [09:06] cool i am in Manila [09:06] Depok exactly [09:06] 10 km from jakarta [09:06] (sustainable growth is what i am trying to say) === RichEd_ moves to notebook [09:07] back in 5 mins [09:07] Hi jsgotangco [09:07] hey [09:07] I have been in Manila at Dec 2004 in 1 week :D [09:08] oh did you like it [09:08] its a cool time to be here [09:09] yes, but I forgot what the event name that i joined ... it is related to ASEAN MOE Organization [09:10] sorry brb in 5 min === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [09:15] toosa: sorry my connection is dropping its raining so hard here [09:19] i'm back [09:20] jsgotanco ... what are doing in Manila ? [09:20] toosa: i currently work here, i was born here, lived outside for a while then went back home [09:21] btw, Oh iya I just remember ... I joined in SEAMEO Seminar in Manila 2004 [09:21] (south east asia ministry of edu) [09:22] do you teach at school ? [09:22] no i don't teach. Im a software developer by profession [09:22] ic [09:22] i did made some lectures in schools before [09:23] what i mostly do in edubuntu is test the amd64 builds and write documentation for a few applications [09:28] toosa: how is edubuntu in indonesia? === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-146-161-59.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd_ [n=RichardW@dsl-146-161-59.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["~] [09:34] i don't know exactly how is edubuntu in Indonesia ... but linux is growing fast now [09:35] what happened to the government project with Sun? [09:36] I heard about that ... but don't know much [09:36] we move in the grass root :) [09:37] i see === jsgotangco is not so familiar with the free software landscape of indonesia [09:39] hi toosa: i'm back :) [09:40] can you send me an email with your email contact address ? [09:40] i'd like to ask you a few questions when i am not so busy [09:40] pht854@yahoo.com [09:40] thanks RichEd [09:41] or pht854@gmail.com [09:41] thanks ... [09:42] would you try to send me some test email, so i can add yours in address (avoiding jump to bulk folder) [09:42] address bool [09:42] book [09:45] doing that now ... brb 5 min [09:54] wow is amd64 and ppc oversided or borked? [10:03] toosa: check your mail please :) [10:12] ok [10:12] checking [10:13] ok i ve got it [10:15] thanks ... please send me a simple reply now ... and more to follow when you have a chance. [10:21] ok === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:22] Guten Morgen [10:23] hi [10:24] 'lo cbx33 :) [10:27] hi RichEd [10:27] wanted to speak to you [10:27] 5 mins [10:27] opo open a PVT and send me the start message ... busy in email and off to a meeting soon ... but can get a bit done before then === RobinShepheard [n=robins@81.17.65.2] has joined #edubuntu [10:34] hiya everybody [10:35] hi [10:35] RobinShepheard: sorry bout that [10:35] hey no worries, I just didn't want anyone to think I was something I wasn't, if you see what I mean [10:36] understandable [10:36] how are things going?? [10:40] pretty good === RichEd goes to clean up for a meeting with some suits - back in 15 [10:43] pretty busy guy =) [10:48] to RichEd .. i ve replied ur email [10:49] Sorry guys ... i need to logoff. have a meeting outside [10:49] bye [10:49] bye toosa [10:49] ciao [10:50] selamat tinggal [10:54] :) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === pygi_ [n=pygi@89-172-225-100.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === pygi_ is now known as pygi === jinty [n=jinty@213-156-52-99.fastres.net] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-225-100.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [01:32] hmm, no RichEd today ? [01:33] ogra, care to tell me name of python bindings for both libglade and gtk? [01:34] python-glade2 and python-gtk2 [01:34] ogra: he was here earlier [01:34] ogra, thanks :) [01:34] ogra, how are you :p [01:34] hi ogra :) [01:34] hi ajmitch how goes the project? [01:35] it goes ok [01:35] hehe [01:35] good good [01:35] cbx33, relaxed, upstream incuded al gnome-screensaver patches, which makes package maintenance a charm :) [01:35] ogra: good for you :p [01:35] I'll be finishing up grasynco this afternoon I hoipe [01:36] take your time, next milestone is still a week away or so === ajmitch has a lot more working this week than at the start of last week ;) [01:36] :) === ryan_naruto [n=ryan@203.87.200.214] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-10-33-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_zZzZ is now known as mhz === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-146-161-59.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:13] Heya === philocon [n=philocon@194.125.179.166] has joined #edubuntu [03:18] hey bddebian [03:18] Hello pygi [03:18] hey bddebian [03:18] hey pygi [03:18] Heya jsgotangco [03:18] jsgotangco, :) [03:19] how are you? === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has left #edubuntu [] [03:19] SUPER [03:20] i finally got out of the house after 4 days of rain [03:20] nice :) [03:20] mmm, rain [03:21] well its still raining but i went out! === ogra looks envoius [03:21] all the water is driving me crazy being stuck inside this house === pygi thinks his internet connection is very slow :( === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === mhz loves rain === mhz loves rain and being at home === mhz used to be like Sandra Bullock in 'The Net' movie ;) [03:31] RichEd, rodarvus, i just got a call from the car rental, seems i can only pick up the truck for my final move at 12:00 UTC tomorrow, could one of you lead the meeting ? [03:32] sure, no problem [03:32] hi ... i am willing to chari but may need some help ... perhaps we can both work together ? [03:32] chair <- chari [03:33] hi mhz :) [03:33] hi RichEd [03:33] my email response was very brief, but i am giving your issues some good thought for a meaningful respnse [03:34] the general agenda is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda ... there is nothing special on the plan... [03:34] RichEd: ;) take your time, it was lot of info [03:34] the issues you face are common in many countries ... and resources are limited if we try to tackle each one by one [03:35] i hope to find a way of addresing your issues, that we can rollover into other territories ... sustained growth .. rather than a short term focus & then move on [03:35] indeed, however, having a more unite solution would help a lot in lobbying for support in each country [03:36] yes ... as I said S America & Africa & "other developing nations" have similar issues [03:37] so we need a plan ... not a once off solution. [03:39] ogra ... no problem ... looks fine ... i am happy to chair. [03:39] yup, agree [03:39] great [03:39] thanks in advance ... i might be back in 15mins anyway, but i'm not sure === jsgotangco peeks [03:40] i know that JaneW was doing this meeting organisation & charing before ... and was kind of dumped on you. if you would ratehr free up your time & headpace for coding, we can discuss me taking it off your shoulders. [03:41] (back in 15 mins ... quick collection duty) [03:41] nice, it stays in weideman realms ;) [03:41] well, i usually have to give the tech update anyway, so i can chair as well ... but rotating the chairman at some point in the future would be fine the [03:42] n === th1a_ [n=th1a@pool-64-223-34-183.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:06] ogra: is there a more updated verion of schooltool available (packaged) or that someone is working on currently for edubuntu? [04:08] there is an updated debian package ... but that seems to have only minor tweaks and i'm sure doko will care for it if he updtaes zope [04:11] ogra: and then, that means we will get a more "convincing" schooltool to demo shipped by edubuntu edgy? (current is good, but the few people I have demo schooltool to they go to the project's home page and see the other features and then ask me about them) [04:13] mhz, i somewhat rely on the packages from debian ... [04:13] mhz: what you are asking for is actually very difficult;) even if you don't consider that upgrading to a development version can do very bad things to the schooltool database. [04:13] jinty: oh, why? [04:14] because development versions may have bugs :) [04:14] even the kin of bugs that wipe your DB ;) [04:14] *kind === mhz is interested because in Colombia, some guys are working on a php thing that is aimed towards similar objectives (but php :( ) [04:15] ogra: eeek, [04:15] thats what dev versions are for ;) [04:15] i see [04:15] because if there is a bug in the database upgrade script in a development version (as there have been) and you use it on a live database. The schooltool developers are probably not interested in hearing your problems. [04:17] jinty: ogra, okis [04:18] mhz: i am having a sidebar email conversation with Tom around SchoolTool [04:18] but, mhz, if you want a demo to show people, have a look at demo.schooltool.org [04:18] I'll have patience and see what colombians are doing, and try to have arguments to convince teachers to wait for schooltool or just help in developing (if they know zope) [04:18] we will probably have an IRC chat about it later this week ... i am keen for input from others to get all views [04:19] we (edubuntu) don't want to develop apps & features that other people are working towards ... [04:19] jinty: yeah :) But the ide is schools implement Edubuntu after my demos [04:19] ide =idea === mhz is not complaining, btw [04:20] RichEd: exactly [04:20] but we want to plug gaps in functionality that hamper adoption. [04:21] mhz: bug me again after the next zope3.3 and I can point you to a private repository containing the latest schooltool packages [04:21] Tom is a nice guy (so far, hehehe) and I know he's making good efforts on taking schooltool to a nice 'suite' [04:21] jinty: thx, I will === mhz is not usre jinty wants mhz to bug him [04:22] usre =sure [04:22] mhz: agreed but same sort of background constraints ... limited resource bandwidth [04:22] lol [04:22] ideally we want to develop the best operating platform ... [04:22] yeah, same old story :( [04:23] and let others develop on top of that [04:23]