[12:08] and I cannot reboot my laptop now! charlize theron is looking hot as aeon flux [12:09] Don't worry, no need to test right now :P [12:09] man, I dig that chick [12:09] oh no... the other system has booted [12:09] I will test it anyway :p [12:09] :p [12:11] erm, perhaps you should explain to me the whole thing about bzr...I have never tried it before :p [12:11] how does one install it, in general? [12:11] apt-get install bzr? :) [12:12] erm, yeah....hehe sorry === kwwii looks stupid [12:12] no worries :) [12:12] make sure you install python-crypto and python-paramiko, too [12:12] charlize is too much for me [12:13] crimsun, we should bzr depend() on it [12:13] oh shit...it wants some CD I no longer have [12:13] kwwii, who wants cd? bzr? === pygi is confused [12:13] apt-get [12:13] why would it want a cd for bzr? you added cd with apt-cdrom or something? [12:14] dependencies I guess [12:14] I found a CD that fits [12:14] can't you just download them? :P [12:14] ah,ok [12:14] it wants them from the cd for some reason [12:14] I guess I could call apt-get in another manner or such [12:14] but I am a newbie [12:14] :p === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-122.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:18] kwwii, :P [12:18] tell once bzr is installed :P [12:18] yeah, I got that installed already...stupid from me [12:19] got the branch too now [12:19] trying it [12:19] python-crypto and python-paramiko also? [12:19] hm, oki :) [12:19] crimsun: pong [12:19] kwwii: it's not trivial to programme that dialogue as I remember [12:20] Riddell: so we could do something like the mockup on the wiki? [12:20] kwwii: URL? [12:20] Riddell: hi. I'd like to improve runtime multiple-sound card support via kmix and was wondering if you've looked into doing it via kmix (or can point me to a more appropriate vector) [12:20] one second, loading [12:20] rraphink: all done [12:21] Riddell: I'll spec it out, but the idea is to tie asoundconf(1) set-default-card to Kmix's Select Master Channel -> Current Mixer === pounk [n=pounkf@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:22] Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas ... Shutdown screen [12:22] crimsun: Christian Esken is the kmix maintainer esken@kde.org [12:22] Riddell: ok, thank you [12:23] kwwii: looks really nice but not very easy to code [12:24] kwwii: dunno, can't be that hard but I doubt I'll find time to do it [12:24] Riddell: What needs to be done to do that? [12:24] Riddell: perhaps I can find someone [12:24] is it a kde style, or is it something else? === pounk [n=pounkf@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:25] pygi: sorry, but ./olive-gtk does nothing for me [12:25] kwwii: it's not a style, it's all hard coded in kdebase/ksmserver/shutdowndlg.cpp [12:26] kwwii, "sh olive-gtk then"? [12:26] kwwii, in the root of the dir? === pounk [n=pounkf@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:26] or you could just use setup to install the application [12:26] "sh olive-gtk" [12:26] well, "source" does more [12:26] but it does not seem to start [12:26] one second [12:27] sh does the same thing as source [12:27] the cursor changes [12:27] and nothing else [12:27] ppc of course [12:27] I only have ppc machines, sorry :-( [12:27] that shouldnt be a problem [12:28] hm, anyone else here has a ppc machine who can confirm kwwii bug? [12:29] kwwii, I really see no issue in having Olive run on ppc machine [12:29] I do get a nifty crosshair icon [12:30] Is that python code? [12:30] sebas, aha [12:30] I installed the python stuff that was suggested [12:30] first [12:30] I've had that problem some time ago, the shebang was broken, so it would run python code through sh. [12:30] hi sebas [12:31] my hero [12:31] sebas! [12:31] Evaluating import (from imagemagick) ... *very* interesting effect :-) [12:31] Hi :) [12:31] sebas: I will never forget what you did...I owe you a beer eternally [12:31] sebas: back from holiday? [12:31] Back from vacation, and half-way through the stack of emails. [12:31] kwwii, first and second post [12:31] kwwii: Gooooooooooooooooood :-) [12:32] that was a quick three weeks [12:32] www.phanatic.hu [12:32] Riddell: Yeah, added some time to recover [12:32] sebas: you just have to come to bayern to get it :-) [12:32] Ow, and I'm officially addicted to port wine now. [12:32] kwwii: Next board-meeting in Nuernberg? :P [12:33] danimo: you should be able to upload now [12:33] http://vizzzion.org/?id=gallery&gcat=Portugal <- Evidence [12:33] kwwii, there you have shoots of UI [12:34] sebas: I'll be there :-) [12:34] hehe, nice pics :-))))) [12:34] kwwii: That is going to be a long and painful night :> [12:34] kwwii, ergh:P [12:34] kwwii, try "python olive-gtk" === pygi used ./olive-gtk all the time so :P [12:34] http://vizzzion.org/?id=viewpic&gcat=Portugal&gpic=IMG_8358.JPG#images you found beer in portugal!!!1 [12:35] Sure, tourist place ;) === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:36] pygi: nothing as well, even less actually as the cursor did not change [12:36] kwwii, hm, interesting [12:36] you saw the shoots on the page? [12:36] also please try to install olive throught setup.py [12:38] I tried setup.py and nothing happened [12:39] kwwii, uh, care to file a bug? [12:39] pygi: from the screenshots, I guess we can make things a bit easier [12:40] https://launchpad.net/products/olive [12:40] well, the extra commit screen is unnecessary [12:40] hehe, let the race begin :-) [12:41] :) [12:41] I think that we can make something very interesting [12:41] but I need to really understand things in advance [12:41] hehe , oki, whatever you need just ask :P [12:42] and please, submit a bug about your situation:P [12:43] pygi: I will try it again tomorrow, when my head is clear again and then file a bug :-) [12:43] time for bed soon [12:43] oki, enjoy :) [12:44] kwwii: Did you have those creme-brulle pastry in PT? [12:45] hmm, that's an impressive Kopete crash [12:48] Can someone using edgy on x86 install zsnes and tell me if it segfaults on startup? [12:50] omeow, I could try it later if you want [12:50] Yes, please. [12:52] ok, poke me if I don't do it once I start being alive :P [12:53] Sure. :) [12:54] hehe [12:55] my wlan went down, sorry, I missed everything you said in the last minutes I guess [12:56] kwwii, :P [01:08] mornfall, don't you just love users who resolve their own bugs if problems get fixed? =P [01:09] I've been a good little user. BUG:131161 [01:09] ubotu, bug #131161 [01:09] I know nothing about bug #131161 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu [01:09] ubugtu, bug #131161 [01:09] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131161 [01:09] KDE bug 131161 in general "preview changes does not list the changes to be made" [Normal,Resolved: worksforme] [01:10] omeow, that one? [01:10] Yes. [01:10] worksforme? that isnt resolved :P [01:10] Well, I can't do anything else to it. === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [01:33] \sh_away: new py qt4 out [01:33] The world is doomed, pygi left and nobody will try out zsnes. =/ === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:55] Riddell: ping? [01:55] danimo: yo [01:55] Riddell: my isp had problems [01:56] Riddell: do you know if my message regarding my key still came through? [01:56] Riddell: rraphink is offline already [01:57] 23:33 < rraphink> danimo: you should be able to upload now [01:58] Riddell: ah, cool [01:58] so debuild -S and make sure it's signed with your key [01:58] Riddell: I did [01:58] then dput revu foo.changes [01:58] apt-get install dput if you don't already have it [01:59] Riddell: no, it's ok [01:59] Riddell: I have uploaded [02:02] erk, you re-libtoolised [02:02] are you using edgy or dapper? [02:04] Riddell: dapper, it's my frigging production machine [02:04] Riddell: aren't they compatible? [02:04] edgy has a newer autoconf, it makes the diff very large. but it's not really a problem [02:04] danimo: where is this patch from? [02:05] Riddell: the author gave it to me, the kopete OSCAR maintainer [02:05] Riddell: he is trying to get a freeze exception from coolo [02:05] Riddell: since the bug it fixes is pretty significant [02:05] Riddell: so it might not be needed by 3.5.4 final [02:05] s/by/for/ [02:06] we'll see once the patch conflicts :) [02:06] I'm not using kopete from 3.5.4, I'll just keep it as a separate source and not generate it from kdenetwork [02:07] looks good [02:07] Riddell: ok, fine [02:07] for best practice name the patch kubuntu_xx_foo.diff, makes it clear that it's from kubuntu and not debian. also put the filename of the patch in the changelog so you can grep for it [02:07] Riddell: but won't 3.5.4 be released before edgy freezes? [02:08] Riddell: aye, will remember [02:08] yes, I'll just not make a kopete package from it [02:08] Riddell: why is there one on revu then? [02:09] kopete is part of kdenetwork but they've also made their own separate releases [02:09] ah [02:09] right, I remember [02:09] the one on revu is the package of the separate release [02:10] we'll use the separate release in edgy [02:10] Riddell: why? [02:10] isn't 3.5.4 going to be released with something > 0.12.1 ? [02:11] I don't know if it'll have changes compated to 0.12.1 in it [02:11] I was expecting it to == 0.12.1 [02:11] Riddell: well, fixes like this one [02:11] danimo: package uploaded, many thanks, check back on the launchpad page tomorrow to see if it has compiled https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/kopete [02:13] Riddell: the upload doesn't show up in the changelog atm [02:13] it'll take a few minutes to be picked up by launchpad [02:13] ok [02:13] I will seize that time to let my bed pick me up ;) [02:15] Riddell: excuse my ignorance nut who is billy piper? [02:15] Riddell: I recently got the new dr. who episodes btw. I will start to watch them next week [02:16] Riddell: oh, rose tyler? interesting :) [02:17] the Doctor's Assistant [02:17] Riddell: yes [02:17] maybe I should clarify that in my blog for those not familiar with her genius [02:17] Riddell: I have to admint that I was completely unaware of dr. who since about one week ago [02:18] Riddell: I was watching the pilot for the new (2005) episodes [02:18] Riddell: that's where she first appeared I guess [02:18] yes [02:19] Riddell: my favourite quote from that one was "They used to call it an ipod" :) [02:19] that's the second episode [02:19] Riddell: (pointing at an old wurlizer) [02:20] Riddell: yes, I know === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:20] Riddell: I have both here and the guy who showed to to me recommended to watch both pilots [02:26] Riddell: no wait, it's first episode [02:26] both of them [02:27] first episode is walking shop dummies, second is future space st [02:27] station [02:27] Riddell: ah, right === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.44.220] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:32] ahh dr who, i love that show ( and billie piper hehe ) [02:32] Riddell: but hey, there is your chance for product placement ;) [02:32] Riddell: I know how you like it [02:37] omg Riddell , billie was at the kubuntu stand in LRL ? /me should have went === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:02] Hello [03:03] bddebian: hi [03:05] Heya freeflying|away [03:21] arg Riddell what shows have air'd in the UK for dr who ? any of the 2006 ones ? === imbrandon_ hates us tv and it being late === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.49.249] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] imbrandon_: you don't have BBS world on your sat? [04:30] nope ;( [04:30] been looking for the 2006 ep on torrent ;) shhh === sean [n=sean@71-214-89-10.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=Me@208.138.25.69] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:46] Hey mornfall Looks like you got overlooked :-) [04:46] nixternal: Yo [04:57] wasabi DaSkreech [04:58] How goes? [04:58] its goin' [05:00] Saw the DW review of Edgy? [05:03] don't htink i have [05:04] nope [05:04] They said it was boring [05:04] DaSkreech: kubuntu or ubuntu? [05:05] I would assume Ubuntu though the reviewer obviously has opinions on Kubunth [05:05] Kubuntu [05:06] Every review where a choice was given she choose KDE as the option [05:06] i'm not surprised [05:06] heh [05:06] kubuntu hasnt changed *that* much yet [05:07] Well yeah :-) [05:07] dapper wasnt such a bad release for kubuntu, really [05:08] i mean, there were a few major problems, like printing, and upgrading, but apart from them... [05:10] Yeah [05:10] oh yeah, and the lack of translations installed by default [05:10] DW had Fedora as the best Distro out for the first half of the year [05:29] DaSkreech: DW? [05:29] [distrowatch] === DaSkreec1 [n=Me@208.138.25.69] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:30] ah [05:30] oh yeah, of course. === DaSkreec1 is now known as DaSkreech [05:36] whee! more busted automake. === abattoir__ [n=abattoir@59.92.54.51] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:44] KDE 3.5.4 starts today? [05:44] DaSkreech: it started being tagged yesterday, keep it quiet. [05:44] It was in the Commit digest :) That's not very quiet :) [05:45] DaSkreech: yeah, no, keep it quiet around #kubuntu particularly - seeing as there are no kubuntu packages yet [05:45] Oh Yeah :) [05:45] I'm stirring up other trouble in there [05:45] woo 3.5.4ponies === Hobbsee smacks crimsun. no ponies for you. === crimsun throws a broken kopete upload at Hobbsee [05:46] OMG Ponies!!! [05:46] crimsun: how's it broken? [05:46] I didn't say it's broken [05:47] you smacked me; I threw something at you [05:47] sure sure. breakfast time. [05:47] ah [05:47] Horlicks :) [05:52] right, breakfast eaten. === DaSkreech blinks [05:53] You are worse than I am [05:53] That says quote a lot [05:54] heh /notice #kubuntu kde 3.5.4 is out [05:54] heh /notice #kubuntu but shhhhh [05:54] heh [05:55] Changelog? [05:55] imbrandon_: go ahead, just be aware of all the billions of questions you get right after it [05:55] lol nah [05:55] ah, i do have a changelog [05:55] DaSkreech: kde.org ? [05:55] It just occured to me I haven't been there in ages [05:56] Stupid RSS feeds [05:57] wow, I was joking before, but apparently kopete really was just fixed. [05:57] imbrandon: kde354 is out? [05:58] freeflying: kinda not really [06:00] freeflying: it's being tagged [06:00] crimsun: yeah, i fixed it. [06:01] crimsun: who do i bug about an upload to dapper-updates? that's mdz or kamion, isnt it? [06:01] Hobbsee: have you build latest kopete for dapper? [06:01] Hobbsee: the former, yep [06:01] freeflying: ahhhh...possibly. [06:01] crimsun: kamion did it last time, iirc? [06:03] Hobbsee: I've not approached kamion for them, but feel free if he approved last time [06:04] Sweet k3b can burn bluRay [06:07] crimsun: okay [06:08] crimsun: what should the first few lines of a patch be? [06:08] --- kio_beagle/admin/cvs.sh 2006/05/23 10:01:43 543983 [06:08] +++ kio_beagle/admin/cvs.sh 2006/06/28 19:26:30 555946 [06:08] @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ [06:08] doesnt seem to work. [06:09] it fails with patch? [06:09] crimsun: yeah, cant find the file. [06:10] are you passing the correct -p (and possibly -d, since the diff -u header is missing)? [06:10] crimsun: i'd assumed it was -p0...how do i tell? [06:11] (and why does the patching thing have to be on later tonight hehe?) [06:11] where is cvs.sh relative to $(pwd)? [06:11] crimsun: what's $(pwd)? [06:11] the current working directory given by the command ``pwd'' [06:12] crimsun: admin/cvs.sh [06:12] crimsun: assuming that pwd is to be run from the source dir. [06:13] oh, hang on. [06:13] crimsun: retrying [06:13] crimsun: it looks like that applied cleanly this time - no idea why it didnt when i tried it before. [06:16] Hobbsee: same $(pwd)? [06:16] crimsun: i think so, i'm not sure. === Hobbsee is trying in a pbuilder now. [06:16] crimsun: it's so annoying - i made this patch work before in other packages.. [06:17] what command did you use to generate the diff? [06:18] -p2 would have been correct given your $(pwd), but you can use -p1 with -d admin [06:18] crimsun: i just tried it with p0 again, iirc. [06:18] crimsun: how do i know which p to use? [06:18] crimsun: Riddell generated the diff [06:19] crimsun: the patch doesnt seem to apply properly. [06:19] Hobbsee: -p refers to how many leading '/' there are === Hobbsee tries something else [06:19] ahh.. [06:23] crimsun: if iv'e got two patches, 00 and 01, modifyign the same file, should i combine them or what? [06:23] or can i just leave them separate, and they still end up working [06:23] aorcehurac. argh [06:23] sorry, connection/lag problems [06:24] Hobbsee: they may apply with fuzz [06:24] Hobbsee: depends if they overlap [06:24] crimsun: i dont think they overlap [06:24] then you should be fine [06:26] patching file admin/cvs.sh [06:26] Hunk #1 succeeded at 29 with fuzz 1 (offset -3 lines). [06:26] Hunk #2 succeeded at 44 with fuzz 1 (offset -3 lines). [06:26] crimsun: eek? === hunger [n=tobias@p54A64084.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:27] well if they applied, then you're generally ok, but I'd go ahead and tweak the diff{,s} to apply cleanly [06:27] crimsun: well, it cant have applied correctly, as i still get the error. [06:28] Hobbsee: then it's the header, which I've experienced, too === Hobbsee steals the header from the other file. [06:28] what I ended up doing was regenerating the diff using diff -uNr [06:29] crimsun: i do that how? make the changes manually, build, then debdiff, or what? [06:30] hand-apply the diffs and generate diff -uNr against a directory without them applied [06:30] emacs and vim both have tools to automate them; I think pitti will discuss them [06:31] kate probably does, too, but I'm a kde newb === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:36] bleh. === Hobbsee gives up on it temporarily. [06:40] giving up already? [06:40] ajmitch: well....yes. === ajmitch has never used the emacs diff mode well === Hobbsee attacks ajmitch with a feather duster [06:41] I tend to do it all manually [06:41] why is it that everytime I see you I get attacked? [06:41] i should have gotten you to teach me how to do it [06:42] ajmitch: because its' fun. and not always. [06:43] ajmitch: remember tickling my feet, and then rethink your statement. === ajmitch would never [06:44] ajmitch: hah! === ajmitch returns to codeing gtk+ stuff === Hobbsee hides her feet from ajmitch again. first you steal my desk, then you tickle my feet! how unfair! [06:45] ajmitch: enjoy :) [06:46] :P === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@64.213.227.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-197-177.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:07] hi all new people. [07:07] hehe [07:08] hi Hobbsee, who are you? [07:08] crimsun: i dont know, i've forgotten. [07:08] hm? === pygi wonders what he missed [07:10] pygi: nothing, just people joining [07:13] i dident just join , does that mean i'm an old people ? [07:13] imbrandon, lol :) [07:14] imbrandon: i refuse to answer that on the basis that it might incriminate me === Hobbsee advises imbrandon that the problem still exists. [07:16] Hobbsee, what have I advised you about auto-join? :P [07:16] heh [07:21] hrm ok , i'll have a few minutes to look at it here after bit [07:43] kmobiletools needs an upgrade - any takers? [07:46] same deal with kid3 [07:46] and kdar, but i had trouble with that one. [07:53] === rraphink just received Kubuntu CDs [07:54] rraphink: yay! [07:55] 60 of them :) [08:04] (why's it so quiet in here?) [08:05] good question [08:06] raphink, how's presentation coming along? :P [08:06] presentation? === pygi nods :) === Hobbsee should actually write the to-do list, so that people do things on it [08:07] pygi: haven't begun to work on it yet [08:07] it's in 2 months === pygi nods again :) [08:09] hehe [08:10] raphink, :) [08:10] how are you doing otherwise? [08:11] All great, just kinda busy as all randomly poke entire day wanting something :P [08:11] what about you? [08:11] good too :) [08:12] busy, too :) [08:12] joy :) [08:12] getting ready to go to work [08:12] :P [08:12] bleh. work. [08:13] yeah === Hobbsee went to work. She dealt with stupidity. She got joked with that a sleaze would be comign back to work there. She went home. [08:13] how dull and boring. [08:13] :P [08:13] hmm depends on your work [08:26] moin Hobbsee [08:27] hi danimo [08:27] Hobbsee: I got a revd and messed with your kopete package [08:27] danimo: you did the kopete fix, i take it :P [08:27] revu even === Hobbsee just noticed that with the upgrades :) [08:28] danimo: sounds good to me :) [08:28] Hobbsee: I didn't author it, but I pushed and tested kt [08:28] it [08:28] Hobbsee: fine [08:28] danimo: it's in main now, i cant do antyhing with it :P [08:28] Hobbsee: hmm? [08:28] danimo: thanks for the patch :) [08:28] no prob === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.33.63] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:28] danimo: i've only got universe uploads - i need to poke others to upload to main [08:29] Hobbsee: well, I can only upload to revu, so... :) [08:29] danimo: any other patches we should take? oh, and who uploaded yours, btw? [08:29]