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nanaki_crimsun: ok, submitted and assigned to you, thanks for the help :)12:10
crimsunnanaki_: np12:10
nanaki_dinner timeee12:11
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jpiccolowould anyone be willing to try to help me with getting my sound to work12:14
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jim__is there any way to see and extract files from a windows partition through kubuntu, (the machine is dual booted- windows and ubuntu)12:14
jmichaelxok i hope this is no offense, but i am going to repost on an issue i am having: has anyone in here ever had a kubuntu install just simply die on them? i bought a new laptop about a month ago, installed kubuntu on it immediately and it has been working great, but i came home from work today, and kubuntu will no longer load..... it acts like kubuntu is loading... the blue kubuntu logo comes up, and it goes through loading all of its stuf12:15
jmichaelx it just goes back to the blue logo and stays there. i have a feeling that i am having a problem with X... i installed and ran 955resolution the other day, and even though it ran one time, i think there might be some kind of conflict with it12:15
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total_linux_geekjim__ : sudo mount /(windows partition) /media/windows12:16
total_linux_geekrun mkdir /media/windows first12:16
total_linux_geekrun sudo mkdir /media/windows first12:16
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cotrolerHello people, just installed kubuntu. How do I install NVIDIA drivers pls?12:16
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wolfmanzjmichaelx when it stays at the logo can you get to a command prompt by doing ctrl+alt f1?12:17
jmichaelxwolfmanz: i will check12:17
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jmichaelxwolfmanz: yes, i have a command prompt12:17
jpiccolocontroler: goto nvidia.com download the drivers12:17
bluerangercan someone help me: i've got some new errors with dmesg12:17
bluerangerhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/0xuU9T19.html12:18
bluerangerand i'm getting fatal error: cannot read disk with cfdisk.12:18
wolfmanzjmichaelx ok now log in and enter your password when your in there do the following command sudo dexconf12:18
wolfmanzjmichaelx if you config file has gone bad that dexconf command will reset it12:18
Agioscotroler: apt-get install nvidia-glx, then run nvidia-glx-config, then ctrl-alt-bksp.12:19
jmichaelxwolfmanz: i did that and nothing happened12:19
jmichaelxahh12:19
jmichaelxwolfmanz: should i reboot now?12:19
wolfmanzjmichaelx make sure you reboot after the command lol12:19
wolfmanzyes12:19
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jmichaelxok, brb (and thanks to all who have been helping)12:19
wolfmanzno problem12:20
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jmichaelxwolfmanz: why would this have happened?12:20
jmichaelxi'm sure that is a big question12:21
wolfmanzno idea but i do know that if the xorg.conf gets screwed up it will hault your booting process i had that happend lastnight when i made a change to that file but i forget to make some other chnages and it wouldnt boot my machine12:21
Bastiqhow do i add a shortcut for xmms? i didnt get one on my menu12:21
jmichaelxwolfmanz: i am crossing my fingers on this12:21
jpiccolodoes kubuntu have glxgears?12:22
jmichaelxwolfmanz: do you think that my having installed 955resolution could have done this?12:22
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wolfmanzi dont know what 955 is lol12:22
jmichaelxwell, it is a bios hack to get vertain laptops to display 1280x800 resolution12:23
total_linux_geekdude hit esc before grub load12:23
jmichaelxcertain*12:23
wolfmanzthat xserver thing can be a pain though i have had a few issues with it allready12:23
jmichaelxwolfmanz: ok, dexconf did not work12:23
wolfmanzok then it could be your hack that you did12:24
wolfmanzthe 955 thing that maybe getting in the way12:24
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buntaHey folks12:24
jmichaelxi wonder what i can do at this point12:24
total_linux_geekpress e12:24
buntahaving some problems with installing kde12:24
buntaAnyone got some time to spare? :P12:24
wolfmanzjimchaelx you need to talk to DaSkreech when he comes on or abbatoir both of them guys know a fair amount12:25
jmichaelxok ty wolfmanz12:25
wolfmanzif you can uninstall that 955 thing you may want to try that12:26
wolfmanzcan you load the live kubuntu cd up by any chance will that load?12:26
jpiccolocan anyone help me get nvmixer to work12:27
wolfmanzjimichaelx can you load the live kubuntu cd up by any chance will that load?12:28
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jmichaelxwolfmanz: i could try it in a sec.... total_linux_geekis trying to walk me through some things, brb12:30
wolfmanzok12:30
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cotroler<Agios> cotroler: apt-get install nvidia-glx, then run nvidia-glx-config, then ctrl-alt-bksp.12:33
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cotroleri did the first part what now? (im new to linux)12:34
cotrolerhow do i run nvidia-glx-config pls?12:34
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Agioscotroler: sudo su -   enter password,  type nvidia-gls-config, do whatever it wants, when doen with that do ctrl-alt-bksp to restart X.12:39
Agiosnvidia-gls-config, sorry12:40
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Agiosnvidia-glx-config, my typing sucks12:40
josh__yeah12:40
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Agiosjust do what I mean LOL12:40
josh__i got them working today12:40
josh__just go to system settings and set the video card driver to nvidia12:41
intelikeyok what's with the 386 kernels not supporting frame buffering ?12:41
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cotroler/usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config called with unknown command:12:42
cotrolerUsage: /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config [enable|disable] 12:42
cotrolerAgios: it tells me:12:42
nanaki_i've had issues getting nvidia-glx-config enable to work, it claims xorg.conf has been altered and it won't change it12:42
nanaki_but you don't really need a util to do it12:42
nanaki_if you have a working xorg.conf, just open it up with sudo and your favorite editor12:43
nanaki_under the section for your video card, find where it says the driver is nv, and change that to nvidia12:43
nanaki_then it should use the accelerated driver12:43
cotrolerk brb12:43
cotrolertnx12:43
hardw1reYO HO HO, a pirates life for me12:44
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nanaki_no piracy needed here! all the software is free :)12:44
hardw1relol12:45
hardw1resorry got POTC on me mind12:45
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nanaki_great sequel i thought12:45
Agioshe must have figured it out LOL12:45
josh__i loaded the nvidia driver from the control panel but i can't do 3d stuff12:45
josh__do i still have to download the package and install it?12:45
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hardw1redid you do apt-cache search nvidia ?12:46
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hardw1reand then install it?12:46
juztinquestion : in gnome, when i plug in a usb storage device, it pops up automatically on my desktop and opens a window to the drive....is there a way to enable something like this in KDE?12:46
josh__no12:46
nanaki_for nvidia driver just get the package from the ubuntu repositories and then do what i said above to change the config to use it12:46
josh__should i do that?12:46
hardw1reyeah12:46
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nanaki_juztin: i think my kde does that automatically, let's try12:46
hardw1reand then in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you just change where it says the driver under the gfx device from nv to nvidia12:47
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hardw1reand then umm no i think the latest X11 has already removed/added the modules your suppose to remove12:47
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ICXCNIKAI just received some kubuntu live-cds from the Isle of Man. I can't get them to work. They are rediculously slow.12:47
josh__i didnt' use xorg12:48
josh__i used the control panel and set it12:48
LeeJunFanrr72: hey. Get anywhere with the nvidia drivers?12:48
nanaki_juztin: yeah i just stuck my usb drive in and kde popped up a window saying it found an unmounted usb drive and asked what i wanted to do, i clicked the option to open it in a window and it mounted it for me and shows the files in konqueror12:48
juztinnanaki_, mine didn't do it by default for some reason, but i figured it out12:48
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nanaki_oh k12:48
juztinnanaki_, you gotta go to KControl / Peripherals / and set auto actions :D:D12:48
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nanaki_yeah i hear you can add your own things to that too, i gotta get on that12:49
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abattoirhardw1re: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo12:49
nanaki_i remember windows popping up dialogs like that and i always closed them or turned off that auto action stuff completely12:49
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nanaki_but if you can customize the kde ones to do what YOU want, they might actually be useful! :)12:49
hardw1reoh oh oh meow, chickens, right, whats good to burn a dvd disk with? what software/libs do i need?12:49
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ICXCNIKAHm. Oh well. At least I can use these cds as coasters.12:49
juztinnanaki_, me too....but now i have a sweet zodiac pda with removable cards, and i want it to pop up the card when i slide it in the card reader :D12:49
hardw1reabattoir: i descovered that i need to patch SANE with the HP3900 patch from sourceforge, but it was being a tit when i tried it this afternoon12:50
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hardw1reas the 4070 uses the same chip as the 390012:50
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abattoirhardw1re: hmmm, because i came across this page and saw hp 4xxx, so thought you might be interested12:50
nanaki_hardw1re: if you're using kubuntu it comes with k3b which is widely considered one of the best burning packages on linux, it should be easy enough to do what you want using that12:50
ICXCNIKAThe Progress Dialog is as slow as molasses12:51
hardw1recheers nanaki_12:51
hardw1rei'll give it a look at abattoir12:51
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abattoirhardw1re: ok12:51
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scabootsscaanyone have dual boot linux and windows xp?12:52
hardw1reyes12:53
ubuntunope12:53
hardw1rewhy is linux so much faster at unraring large archives12:53
intelikeyscabootssca lots of folks12:53
josh__yeah i've dual booted12:53
ubuntui dont know, i think linux is quite good tho12:53
scabootsscai cant get my windows partition to work with grub12:54
josh__i just hate the driver installations and stuff12:54
ICXCNIKADoes anyone have the Kubuntu Dapper Drake cds fom the Isle of Man?12:54
scabootsscawhat dows you'r boot.lst file say12:54
ICXCNIKAAre they defective?12:54
hardw1reno idea12:54
josh__well make sure u didn't wipe out ur windows partition12:54
hardw1rei downloaded off of the torrent network12:54
intelikeyi think 14 is the most entries in the boot loader that i have seen12:54
hardw1relast year i had loads of entries in the boot loader when i was trying to compile my own kernel12:54
scabootsscait's there whenever i open my case and unplug the linux hd windows starts up12:55
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hardw1remy main pc, which im waiting for new parts on has 0.98TB of hdd space12:55
hardw1re4x sata's and 1 ide drive12:55
josh__what if i select nvidia legacy?12:55
hardw1reare you using adept or command line console apt-get'ing?12:56
nanaki_you don't want nvidia legacy unless you have a really old card12:56
hardw1resudo apt-get nvidia-glx12:57
nanaki_(and i mean REALLY old)12:57
josh__oh its because the MBR is fucked up12:57
josh__well i have a 7300gs12:57
nanaki_yeah get the regular one12:57
josh__and i wanna try 3d stuff12:57
nanaki_7000 line is the newest stuff! :)12:57
josh__could someone do remote assistance or something>?12:57
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nanaki_i've never actually done that i'd probably fuck it up haha12:58
SimAtWorkjosh__: don't give people your root password12:58
josh__k12:58
SimAtWorkjosh__: not unless you'rea  total freaking idiot do you do that.12:58
nanaki_also yeah i'd have to be root to install that, right12:58
josh__damn12:58
josh__k well nvidia is pissing me RIGHT off12:58
SimAtWorkjosh__: at least after this point.12:58
josh__at least i have the default nvidia  drivers12:58
SimAtWorkjosh__: nvidia is?12:58
josh__but in the conrtol panel it says NV12:59
josh__is NV the same?12:59
SimAtWorkjosh__: no12:59
SimAtWorkNV is the kernel drivers12:59
SimAtWorkthey are ok12:59
nanaki_nv is the un-accelerated driver for nvidia cards12:59
SimAtWorkbut definately not what you want12:59
josh__yeah, i want normal ones12:59
nanaki_rite12:59
josh__for 3d shit12:59
SimAtWorkjosh__: use the adept application12:59
nanaki_in console, do: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:59
SimAtWorkjosh__: serach for nvidia12:59
SimAtWorkinstall them12:59
josh__oh ok12:59
scabootsscacan anybody help me?12:59
josh__i'll try that12:59
SimAtWorkor yah, do the console way12:59
nanaki_or use adept if you're more comfortable with that to install nvidia-glx12:59
nanaki_either way does the same12:59
SimAtWorki assume in #kubuntu you want easy gui12:59
nanaki_hehe ya01:00
nanaki_as long as you tell someone the exact command to type the console is pretty easy :)01:00
SimAtWorkyah, but they don't gain understanding unfortunately.01:00
josh__Reading package lists... Done01:00
josh__Building dependency tree... Done01:00
josh__nvidia-glx is already the newest version.01:00
josh__0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:00
SimAtWorkafte you tell someone "use adept, search for bla, and install it.  It works" a few times01:00
SimAtWorkthey figure it out.01:00
nanaki_oh so you already have it, ok01:00
SimAtWorkjosh__: ok. so now you need to get your x config file changed.01:01
josh__ok so i got the default ones01:01
josh__oh ok01:01
josh__yay01:01
SimAtWorkjosh__: now for that i don't know the simple gui way.01:01
josh__how do i find that01:01
SimAtWorkjosh__: or if one exists.01:01
SimAtWorkbut it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:01
SimAtWorkthere is probably a readme you should be reading that tells you waht to do01:01
nanaki_yeah there isn't really an easy gui way to edit the conf manually unfortunately01:01
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SimAtWorkbut basically like for driver ='nv' and change it.01:01
josh__ok what do i chang01:01
nanaki_there is a tool that comes with the drivers to do it for you01:01
josh__oho k01:01
nanaki_but the tool will complain01:01
nanaki_and not do it01:01
SimAtWorkchange it to nvidia01:01
nanaki_so yeah look for that line and change nv to nvidia01:01
SimAtWorkdo you have to do anything in kubuntu to get it to use the nvidia glx instead of mesa 3d libraries?01:02
scabootsscahow do i add my windows partition to grub? and i already tried the wiki entry01:02
josh__Section "Device"01:02
josh__  identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"01:02
josh__  boardname "nv"01:02
josh__  busid "PCI:2:0:0"01:02
josh__  driver "nv"01:02
josh__  screen 001:02
josh__now what01:02
nanaki_that's the one01:02
josh__change nv to nvidia01:02
nanaki_change the nv to nvidia01:02
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SimAtWorkjosh__: drive "nv" should be "nvidia"01:02
nanaki_make sure you're doing this with sudo btw01:02
nanaki_otherwise it won't let you save01:02
SimAtWorkeven more important01:02
SimAtWorkmake sure you makea  backup first01:03
nanaki_yeah backups are good :)01:03
SimAtWorkalways backup before editting in /etc01:03
josh__i can't change it01:03
josh__oh i need an editor lmao01:03
nanaki_oh were you just doing cat? haha01:03
hardw1reabattoir: it doesnt mention all of the 4xxx scanners, just some of the 44xx's the one i need is the 4070, which i found this for: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=15059901:03
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nanaki_yeah just do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, nano is a pretty simple console editor01:04
josh__k i copied xorg into another folder01:04
SimAtWorkcouldn't you use sudo kate ?01:04
SimAtWorkmuch easier01:04
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nanaki_oh yeah running kdesu kate would probably be easier01:04
josh__ok now save it?01:05
SimAtWorkyup01:05
SimAtWorkthen restart x windows01:05
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SimAtWorkjosh__: ther is a chance it wont' work01:05
SimAtWorkjosh__: and you will have a no-gui system01:05
SimAtWorkjosh__: if that happens, grab your live cd01:05
intelikeySimAtWork interesting note on backing up xorg.conf  if you cp xorg.conf to $HOME and use startx  it reads the one in $HOME rather than the one in /etc/X11 thus all testing and tweeking can be done in user space and the final step sudo mv xorg.conf /etc/X11     to make the changes system wide.01:05
josh__omg01:05
josh__and i can't overwrite it01:06
SimAtWorkintelikey: OH! that's great to know.01:06
nanaki_oh really intelikey haha i never knew that01:06
SimAtWorkjosh__: see what intelikey said.01:06
SimAtWorkjosh__: and do that.01:06
SimAtWorkoh wait01:06
SimAtWorkintelikey: but x starts as root01:06
SimAtWorkintelikey: at least by default on kubuntu01:06
josh__i got linux yesterday i dont know how do do this stuff01:06
josh__lol01:06
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intelikey /usr/bin/X is suid root  yes.  your point is ?01:07
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SimAtWorkintelikey: it won't use the xorg in his home dir01:07
nanaki_i think he means when x starts you're at a graphical login because it's runlevel 401:07
peter_hallo01:07
nanaki_so maybe x is running as root?01:07
intelikeytry it.01:07
nanaki_i dunno i'm not sure how the runlevels work that much01:08
intelikeySimAtWork if it doesn't work,  then tell me i'm wrong.01:08
nanaki_but if you say it works i'll believe you ;)01:08
SimAtWorkintelikey: why would kdm / xorg look at his home dir for a config file when it's runnign as root?01:08
SimAtWorkintelikey: i don't seehow it would work at all.01:08
SimAtWorkintelikey: if you have 10 uers and they each have their own xorg.conf then what'll happen01:08
intelikeySimAtWork i don't care what you see.01:09
josh__k wow01:09
josh__i also tried the normal nvidia installation01:10
nanaki_any luck josh?01:10
josh__and i got an error01:10
intelikeySimAtWork i did also specify 'startx'   as opposed to kdm    but i think it works under kdm also... just haven't tested there.01:10
josh__i forget what it was01:10
josh__i'll try again01:10
SimAtWorkintelikey: how could it work under kdm01:10
nanaki_oh you don't want to do that01:10
nanaki_use the one from the repositories that you have01:10
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nanaki_the driver isn't the problem, you just have to enable it in xorg.conf01:10
josh__repositories?01:10
hardw1re http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=piratekb5.swf01:10
grizzlywhich wld be the grub config file?01:10
nanaki_the one you downloaded already with apt-get01:10
josh__ooh i see...01:10
josh__apt-get, what does that do01:11
nanaki_gets stuff for you :)01:11
nanaki_programs and things01:11
grizzly boot/grub/menu.1st isn't helping..01:11
josh__i downloaded the package from their site and saved it to my desktop01:11
josh__was i supposed to do that?01:11
nanaki_no need to worry about the one from the nvidia site, the one you got with apt-get or adept or whichever app you used has the same stuff in it already01:11
nanaki_here, try this01:11
grizzlyjosh__: google for ubuntu guide01:11
grizzly!grub01:11
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:11
nanaki_go in your k menu (the start menu thing) and do run command01:12
josh__k01:12
josh__now what01:12
nanaki_type this: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:12
nanaki_and put in your password01:12
hardw1rehmm how do i uninstall the current SANE?01:12
josh__nothing happened...01:12
nanaki_it didn't pop up an editor or anything?01:13
nanaki_it should have asked for your password and then popped up kate01:13
nanaki_try it again?01:13
josh__there we go01:13
nanaki_ok, scroll down in that file a little past halfway01:13
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nanaki_looking for the device section you pasted earlier01:13
josh__i did that01:13
josh__changed it01:13
josh__now its nvidia01:13
josh__now that01:14
josh__now what*01:14
nanaki_ok and you could save it just fine right?01:14
josh__yeah01:14
josh__i clicked the disk01:14
nanaki_ok now save and close everything you want to keep because we'll restart x now01:14
josh__ok01:14
josh__ctrl alt backspace?01:14
nanaki_when everything is exited, do ctrl-alt-backspace ya01:14
nanaki_and hopefully it works :)01:14
josh__k01:14
josh__thanks01:14
josh__what if it doesn't work01:14
josh__oh i'll go into recovery mode01:15
nanaki_yeah and edit the file again01:15
josh__alright lets do this01:15
nanaki_and change it back to nv01:15
josh__thanks01:15
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grizzlyAnybody? is there any other grub vonfig file  except /boot/grub/menu ??01:15
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nanaki_man grub says it should be /boot/grub/menu.lst01:16
grizzlyI need t o add resume2=swap:/dev/hda8 to my grub config file. dding to the normal manu file doesn't works01:16
obfneed help with modifying xmodmap so i can set up hot keys01:16
hardw1remake[1] : *** No rule to make target `libsane-hp4070.la', needed by `all'.  Stop.01:17
hardw1reright im gonna leave this for tonight, so then my mum can use the pc01:17
nanaki_i'm not sure what you mean grizzly, some of the stuff on help:/kubuntu/desktopguide/partitions-booting.html might help, dunno if you've seen that already though01:18
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intelikeywhat's the command string for system settings ?01:19
intelikeywhat's the command string for "system settings" ?01:19
nanaki_the one in the kde menu uses01:19
nanaki_systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m01:19
nanaki_not sure what the % vars are, probably just systemsettings would work01:20
Agiosit's .... systemsettings although I often just run kcontrol01:20
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timianyone know about the xmodmap01:22
Agiosall I know about xmodmap is in the man page.01:22
Agiosnever used it01:22
nanaki_you'd be surprised how much you can help someone by reading the man page and repeating what it says to them :)01:23
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Agiosno, actually I wouldn't. I've been participating in help channels for over 10 years :)01:23
wolfmanzlol01:24
nanaki_haha then you are in on the secret01:24
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wolfmanzAgios how old are you?01:24
ubuntuk01:24
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petros!firefox01:24
Josh__i'm back01:24
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:24
Josh__it died01:24
Agios> 50 < 6001:24
nanaki_uh oh01:24
Josh__nothing works01:24
Josh__i'm on the live ce01:24
Josh__cd01:24
nanaki_well you could boot into recovery mode on your hd, all you really need to do is use a command line editor (such as nano) to change the nvidia string back to nv01:25
Josh__oh01:25
taos_KBI'm having a problem with xorg-flgrx graphics driver...I think?01:25
Josh__well i'm going into the system01:25
intelikeySimAtWork after testing with both root and user on the latest kubuntu  it seems that it only works for root.   it did use to work for users also.  xorg is changing...   still playing with /root/xorg.conf is a safer bet than /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:25
nanaki_because that's all we changed and it was working before01:25
Josh__oh no01:26
Josh__it won't let me into the hard drive01:26
nanaki_yeah i dunno how it's gonna handle the permissions01:26
nanaki_i would just boot into recovery console01:26
nanaki_it's not that tough01:26
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nanaki_you won't even have to use sudo hehe01:26
Josh__mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in etc/fstab or etc/mtab01:26
rocketman768anybody know what this error message means on bootup? 'modprobe FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15.7/modules.dep no such file or directory'01:26
SimAtWorkintelikey: you can tell x to use a diff config file with the correct parameters anyhow01:26
SimAtWorkso you can still do it as a user01:26
nanaki_just nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, scroll down and change the nvidia back to nv, then save and reset01:26
Josh__oh ok01:27
Josh__how do i save?01:27
Josh__in a console01:27
nanaki_in nano if you just do ctrl-x it will ask you if you want to save before you quit01:27
Josh__oh nice01:27
Josh__alright i'll try that01:27
Josh__thx01:27
intelikeySimAtWork yes indeed.   but it no longer defaults to ~/ first.01:27
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Josh__now why the hell would it do this to me anyways?01:28
Josh__i set it to nvidia01:28
marcus__need a little web server help please?01:28
Josh__should i have downloaded something before01:28
scabootsscawhats hdb1 in grub?01:28
nanaki_you already downloaded the driver so i'm not sure why it would crash like that01:28
nanaki_it could be a lot of things01:28
Josh__ok usually what should u do before u change the xor01:29
Josh__xorg01:29
Josh__i installed the gdm or w/e drivers01:29
supernixHi anyone here know much about modems need to pick a good one for my fiancees computer01:29
Josh__using adept01:29
nanaki_personally i just changed it and it worked, you shouldn't need to do anything except install nvidia-glx (which you did) and change the xorg.conf01:29
Josh__oh01:29
timiok what is the man page?01:29
SimAtWorkso josh01:29
Josh__i also installed all the amd64 stuff01:29
SimAtWorkis your nvidia working?01:29
Josh__the restricted packages01:29
SimAtWorki gotta go in 1 min or so01:30
nanaki_intelikey: i think what SimAtWork was trying to say earlier is that since kubuntu uses a graphical login, x is starting before the user has logged in, so it must be running as root then right?01:30
Josh__no it crashed, i'm on the live cd01:30
Josh__so i'm fucked01:30
SimAtWorkJosh__: ok, restore the config file then come back01:30
Josh__lol01:30
Josh__ok i'll try that01:30
Josh__beb01:30
SimAtWorkJosh__: you made a backup so you're in the clear01:30
Josh__brb01:30
Josh__yeah i did make a backup01:30
Josh__but how would i access that?01:30
SimAtWorksee how brilliant you are.01:30
Josh__i can't access the partition lol01:31
SimAtWorkyou should see icons for the partition on your desktop01:31
marcus__anybody know why folders under public_html wouldn't show up?01:31
SimAtWorkif not you might need to dig for it a bit01:31
intelikeynanaki_ one more time,  i did specify starting X via "startx"   thus precluding *dm01:31
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SimAtWorkgotta go01:31
SimAtWorksee you all later01:31
Josh__damn01:31
Josh__later sim01:31
Josh__ok well now i need to figure out how to do this01:32
Josh__i'll try the nano thing01:32
Josh__peace01:32
intelikeygooday SimAtWork01:32
Josh__oh01:32
Josh__and to save01:32
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Josh__ctrl x?01:32
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nanaki_ctrl-x will quit, but it will ask you if you want to save before you do, so say yes01:33
intelikey^o  == write out.    ^x == exit  (it asks about writing before exiting)01:33
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nanaki_intelikey: oh okay, yeah if you use startx i would have thought it would check ~/xorg.conf first01:34
nanaki_guess they changed that then01:34
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cotroler!nvidia01:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:35
intelikeynanaki_ it used too.   but only for root now it seems.  and another change in xorg i don't like at all, it uses /root/ as a swap dir.01:35
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nanaki_it does? hahaha that's retarded01:36
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Steven_why is there no up traffic in ktorrent when of got 10 leechers?01:36
Sarnuialcan i have some help getting the live cd to boot?01:38
Sarnuialit freezes just after the menu01:39
Sarnuialat "mounting root file system"01:39
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ggodin!qemu01:40
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo01:40
josh__k01:40
Sarnuiali hit f6 and nuked "quiet" and "splash"01:40
coachJwhat can I use to open .CDR (corel) files?01:40
josh__i'm back01:40
josh__again01:40
josh__i fixed it01:41
Sarnuialand it seems to be freezing when it probes 4 usb01:41
josh__what if i install nvidia-settings?01:41
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coachJanyone know what can I use to open .CDR (corel) files?01:42
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SarnuialcoachJ: openoffice doesnt?01:43
coachJi'll try didnt think of that01:43
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nanaki_nvidia-settings is just a util to configure the driver once it's working, that won't help you make it work01:43
nanaki_you have what you need installed, it probably just needs some other thing in xorg.conf and i don't really know what01:44
nanaki_bugs like that can happen01:44
nanaki_check the forums maybe01:44
SarnuialcoachJ: by the way, u know whats cool - im an hour drive from the corel hq :D01:44
coachJthat is cool01:45
coachJSarnuai:open office what? drawl ?01:45
Sarnuialprobably01:46
Sarnuiali dunno01:46
Sarnuialopen a writter document01:46
Sarnuialclose it01:46
Sarnuialand then go file > open01:46
Sarnuialu should be able to open01:46
Sarnuialall supported file formats01:46
Sarnuialthat way01:46
Sarnuialbut im not sure if OOo has support for much corel stuff...01:47
Sarnuialworth a try anyway01:47
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coachJI guess I can save it a jpg if I have to01:48
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coachJnope didnt work01:49
Sarnuialnuts01:49
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cyber_brain_mfkghello01:49
timihow do i get kdm01:49
timior is it integrated01:50
cyber_brain_mfkgi need some help01:50
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Sarnuialthe problem with finding any info on a Linux CDR reader is most of the Google results are typos of CD-R01:50
Sarnuial<_<01:50
cyber_brain_mfkghow can i setup proxy on konversation????01:50
josh__k01:50
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josh__in adept01:50
cyber_brain_mfkg(my ip is banned from my local irc server)01:51
cyber_brain_mfkgi have static ip01:51
josh__what happens when you click complete upgrade01:51
cyber_brain_mfkg:(01:51
nanaki_you'd need to know of a proxy that would forward your irc traffic01:51
cyber_brain_mfkgsomeone?01:51
nanaki_so either you would have to set up one on another computer somewhere else, or use a public one01:51
nanaki_public irc proxies that actually work are rare since people use them to spam so they get banned01:52
cyber_brain_mfkgi have proxys ip and port01:52
nanaki_many networks block proxies entirely01:52
cyber_brain_mfkgwhere to type it????01:52
josh__to update do i click complete upgrade?01:52
nanaki_hm i don't see a proxy setting under konversation settings01:52
nanaki_maybe it doesn't support that yet01:52
josh__ok i'm doing it01:52
cyber_brain_mfkgwhat about gnome xchat???01:53
josh__i dont know what i'm doing but i'm doing it01:53
cyber_brain_mfkgi cant find there 201:53
cyber_brain_mfkg???01:53
nanaki_x-chat i believe does support proxies but i don't have it installed01:53
nanaki_check around the settings pages i guess01:53
nanaki_it's doubtful that the proxy will work anyway though01:53
cyber_brain_mfkgwhat irc front end do u use?01:53
nanaki_unless you already know it's good01:53
nanaki_i'm using konversation01:53
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cyber_brain_mfkgyes my friend uses same proxy01:54
cyber_brain_mfkg!!!01:54
ubotuI know nothing about !! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:54
cyber_brain_mfkgon windows01:54
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cyber_brain_mfkgnanaki_:  thanx anyway01:55
cyber_brain_mfkg:)01:55
timi!kdm01:55
ubotuI know nothing about kdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:55
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metalheddI'm using an nvidia card and trying to use the TV out.  i have it working but the way its set up, the TV is like the right hand side of my desktop and it limits my monitors res to 1024x768. is there a way to run the monitor at a better resolution and still have the TV-out?01:57
Sarnuialhow much video memory do u have?01:57
metalhedd256 i think01:57
Sarnuialso thats not the problem...01:57
Sarnuialoh wiat, it wouldnt be anyway01:57
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Sarnuialthe tv is just displaying whats on ur monitor, right?01:58
metalheddApparently the problem is that the TV can't support resolutions higher than that, and since the TV is just an extension of the desktop on my monitor it needs to use the same res.01:58
Sarnuialok01:58
Sarnuialthought so01:58
Sarnuialno, i know of no way01:58
metalheddno, its wierd.  I have my normal looking desktop working as it always did, (but at 1024x768) and when my mouse goes off the right, its on the TV01:58
Sarnuialoh01:59
Sarnuialhmm01:59
Sarnuialweird01:59
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taos_KBI'm having a problem with xorg-flgrx graphics driver.01:59
taos_KBI installed using adept  but when I do lsmod it is not listed.02:00
scabootsscahow do i totally uninstall grub and then reiunstall it?02:01
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intelikeyscabootssca you could use fdisk /mbr from a dos disk   xp's fixmbr   or over write the mbr via dd   as for totally uninstalling also needed would be apt-get --purge remove grub02:04
rr72LeeJunFan~ havent started yet02:04
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intelikeyscabootssca i have been in and out,  but did i hear you say grub boots linux but not xp and unpluging the drive with linux on it then power on boots xp ?02:05
wolfmanzanyone know the command to see what kernal i have installed?02:05
scabootsscayes02:05
scabootsscaexactly02:06
rr72wolfmanz~ uname -r02:06
wolfmanzthanks02:06
rr72np02:06
intelikeyscabootssca grub can only boot what bios can read/boot  you might look into lilo   it's a more powerfull boot loader02:06
scabootsscaok02:06
scabootsscai can mound the windows partition from linux also02:07
rr72intelikey~ why do people say to use grub over lilo then?02:07
cyber_brain_mfkgwho is op on this chanel?02:07
intelikeyscabootssca it sounds like your issue is a changing bios address for the hard drives.02:07
cyber_brain_mfkgwho is op on this chanel?02:07
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rr72cyber_brain_mfkg~ look for urself02:07
scabootsscaany ideas how to fix it?02:07
rr72freenodes services allow u to veiw the access list02:07
cyber_brain_mfkgmy konversation cannot recognize icons02:07
cyber_brain_mfkg:D02:07
cyber_brain_mfkgall are normal users02:07
cyber_brain_mfkg:(02:08
intelikeyscabootssca with the xp partition mounted  type mount and tell me the '1' line that contains the ntfs partition ?02:08
rr72all people here are normal02:08
rr72ATM02:08
nanaki_i think that may just be the status in this channel ya02:08
nanaki_mine works on another net just fine02:08
scabootsscait's fat3202:08
rr72freenode policy no ops unless needed02:08
nanaki_oic that's probably a good policy02:08
scabootsscai'm doing that02:08
nanaki_prevents ban drama02:08
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intelikeyrr72 it's the *buntu way.   one or more of the team leadres likes grub02:09
scabootssca/dev/hdb1 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,umask=0000)02:09
rr72oh02:09
scabootsscait also has another partition that has just .mps's on it02:09
rr72but i mean not in this chan02:09
scabootssca/dev/hdb5 on /mnt/music type vfat (rw,umask=0000)02:09
rr72i don't hang here, im only here cause i need help badly02:09
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scabootsscaintelikey: the first has the windows folder on it02:10
intelikeyscabootssca ok not in /boot/grub/devicemap   is there a referance to /dev/hdb  ?02:10
rocketman768what is gtk+-2.0's name if i want to apt-get it?02:10
intelikeys/not/now/02:11
scabootsscaintelikey, no02:11
scabootsscajust hda02:11
intelikeyrocketman768 use apt-cache search gtk    for that info.02:11
rocketman768intelikey: thanks02:12
intelikeyapt-cache search/show blah     is your friend.02:12
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intelikeyscabootssca ok try adding one.   like the one for hda   follow the same nomenclature02:12
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scabootsscaok i'll try02:12
scabootsscaok i added it02:13
scabootsscai'll try to restart and load windows i guess?02:14
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SarnuialACK!02:14
SarnuialNO!02:14
scabootsscai added "(hd1)/dev/hdb"02:14
SarnuialBAD scabootssca02:14
intelikeyscabootssca then add an " (hd1,0) boot chainloader +1  "    line in /boot/grub/menu.list         errr check the syntax cause i dont use grub.02:14
Sarnuialoh wait02:14
Sarnuialim in windoze...02:14
coachJcan U install a RPM on Kubuntu?02:14
nanaki_yes02:15
intelikeyscabootssca yep02:15
nanaki_but you probably don't want to02:15
nanaki_make sure it's not in the ubuntu repositories first (universe and multiverse too!)02:15
scabootsscai have title Windows Xp02:15
scabootsscarootnoverify (hd1,0)02:15
scabootsscamakeactive02:15
scabootsscachainloader +102:15
scabootsscaboot02:15
coachJnanki: anything special I have to do?02:15
nanaki_if you can't find it anywhere except in an rpm, you need the program "alien" which should be in the repositories02:15
scabootsscaoops sorry channel02:15
intelikeycoachJ you can  but there is probably a .deb of the same thing02:15
scabootsscait wasnt on one line02:15
nanaki_beyond that i'm not sure, but it should come with docs, just look for alien02:16
coachJhavent found it but i'll keep looking02:16
coachJk02:16
intelikeycoachJ apt-cache search <name>02:16
coachJk02:16
intelikeyscabootssca looks good   test it.02:16
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intelikeygrub may have a switch to set it to boot-as=0x80   like lilo has       idk...02:19
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rocketman768i am trying to run make gconfig, and it tells me i need gtk+-2.0 installed. Well, it's installed and gconfig still complains, wtf?02:22
intelikeyhehhe toggeling suid on and off at will for mount point /      krazzy  man ;;;02:23
intelikeyrocketman768 build-essential02:23
intelikey???02:24
rocketman768intelikey: what do you mean?02:24
intelikeyinstall it02:24
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rr72actuelly setting defualt init/run level could be good for 6 or 102:25
rr72for security measure if u go away02:25
rr72just use a cd to change it back02:26
nanaki_anyone else could change it back then too02:26
nanaki_with a similar cd02:26
rr72not if u don't make the computer boot from cd02:26
nanaki_follow the mantra of the security professional: physical access IS root access02:26
nanaki_and lock your door accordingly ;)02:27
Agiospull the hdd and lock it up if you are that paranoid :)02:27
intelikeyrr72 cd     boot a cd to change runlevels ???02:27
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rr72encrypt it all via 128 random DoD algorithms02:28
rr72root02:28
rr72this-is-not-my-pass02:28
rr72oops02:28
intelikeyrr72 why not have a hot key to switch init 3   init 4    then you could have root totally locked down no sudo no suid  no nothing      hit the hot key  and back to normal02:28
intelikeythat way normal users could continue business as normal  but all admin tasks would simply be 'off line'  for the time02:30
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timihey intellikey i see your talking about hot keys, do you know how to modify an xmodmap so i can add functions to some media buttons02:31
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intelikeytimi not well enough to help you.   i might trial and error get my own set.   sorry.02:32
Hawkwindtimi: Are you trying to do multimedia keys on your keyboard ?02:33
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intelikeyi do set my windows keys to switch consoles  with this....  echo 'keycode 125 = Decr_Console' | loadkeys && echo 'keycode 126 = Incr_Console' | loadkeys  .... in an init script.   but like i said i'd have to do lots of poking around.02:34
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timiwelll my laptop has media button02:35
timion the front edge02:35
timii found instructions for getting them to work02:35
timibut the guy just said edit xmodmap02:35
Hawkwindtimi: lineak is a good thing for multimedia keys02:35
Hawkwindtimi: http://cweiske.de/howto/xmodmap/allinone.html  <~~xmodmap how-to that works perfectly02:36
Hawkwindtimi: But Lineak is very simple to use.  Great little program02:36
intelikeytimi  you can use showkeys  to learn what they are02:36
timiok02:36
wolfmanzis there a quick way to configure the extra keys i have my keyboard the multimedia keys?02:37
intelikeywolfmanz X or console ?02:37
wolfmanzso they work in kde:D02:38
intelikeysee the above postings to timi02:38
josh__how do i play mp3's from my windows partition?02:43
timihow do i change my kdm02:45
timiis there a theme manager somewher for it02:45
intelikey!mp3 > josh__02:45
josh__huh?02:46
intelikeytimi system settings02:46
DragnslcrHeh, nice, I was gonna ask about special keyboards too02:46
intelikey!mp302:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:46
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intelikey!vlc02:47
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs02:47
abattoirjosh__: is your windows partition mounted?02:47
timinot there02:47
josh__how do you tell that its mounted02:47
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timiunder kcontrol splash screen is there02:47
abattoirjosh__: and do mp3s in your linux partition play?02:47
intelikeytimi was when i customized mine.....02:47
josh__umm02:48
josh__only ogg's02:48
abattoirjosh__: amarok?02:48
timii installed all the kdm packagkes except kcontrol kdmtheme not there02:48
_gregHawkwind: where would you get "lineac"? Adept came up empty.02:48
josh__ya02:48
timireally was it under look or something02:48
abattoirjosh__: install 'libxine-extracodecs'02:48
abattoir!info libxine-extracodecs02:48
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB02:48
josh__oh ok02:48
josh__and then it should work?02:48
abattoirjosh__: make sure you have 'multiverse' enabled02:48
abattoir!multiverse02:48
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:48
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abattoirjosh__: if you do it right, yes it should work02:49
intelikeybottom line i think.   i'm not gonna start a gui just to look.02:49
josh__even the ones from my windows partition?02:49
josh__how do i enable multiverse?02:49
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abattoirjosh__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:49
abattoirjosh__: yeah, why not?02:50
intelikey!repos > josh__02:50
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josh__how do i enable multiverse02:51
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abattoirjosh__: dude, look at the links i have given... intelikey and I have told you twice already02:51
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intelikeyjosh__ windows partition is a referance to ntfs i presume, but; data is data. is place of storage is hardly relavent to who it's used.02:52
josh__oops lol02:52
josh__i'm doing homework so i'm distracted02:52
intelikeys/who/how02:52
wolfmanzi gotta use that line some time lol02:52
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intelikeyso stop distracting us until you are not busy.02:53
wolfmanzlol02:53
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intelikeyasking a lot of questions that were just answered for you, is a good way to stop getting answers and start getting ignored..... how ever i have learned that answering other peoples questions in here has the same affect....02:55
josh__sorry02:56
josh__lol02:56
KDEfanboyheh02:56
wolfmanzthese linux folk are touchy people lol02:56
danny50010hi02:56
KDEfanboylol02:56
danny50010what's up guy's?02:56
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intelikeyaint they02:57
danny50010HDEfanboy, you been on all day?02:57
_gregsame old danny50010, you?02:57
Hawkwind_greg: It's actually lineakd02:57
_gregthanks hawk02:57
danny50010good02:57
HawkwindYeppers02:57
KDEfanboydanny50010: sure idling, u?02:57
josh__ok i'm in adept02:57
danny50010no02:57
KDEfanboyoic02:57
josh__repository manager02:57
danny50010I got a 7mbps connection02:58
wolfmanzthink adept should come with repos turned on02:58
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danny50010my brain's just slow02:58
danny50010lol02:58
danny5001000.0000000001mbps02:58
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intelikeyi've got a 2470 connection02:58
josh__oh ok02:58
josh__well i need multiverse02:58
danny50010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:58
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abattoirjosh__: while you are at it, enable universe too02:59
intelikey2670 on good days02:59
danny50010what 2.670mbps?02:59
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danny50010I pay $45 per mounth for my conect, you must pay like $1000 per month!03:00
josh__i have 5mb/s03:00
danny50010cogeco?03:00
josh__for 45 bucks canadian03:00
intelikeyno no letters just 2670   lol03:00
intelikeyas in 2k03:00
josh__rogers internet03:01
danny500102kbps03:01
josh__its canadian03:01
danny50010that's slow03:01
josh__it pwns u all03:01
danny50010I have 7mbps03:01
danny50010$4503:01
danny50010cogeco03:01
danny50010I pawn you lol03:01
intelikeydanny50010 now you got it.03:01
danny50010got what?03:02
intelikey:)03:02
danny50010:)03:02
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rr72how do i install NVIDIA drivers by hand? gcc isnt the same or it can't find modules in the kernal03:02
danny50010just needed to get my brain warmed up03:02
rr72i want to wipe my system of nvidia and start from fresh03:02
danny50010you can't do it by hand03:02
danny50010you'll get a shock03:03
rr72danny50010~ i need to do it by hand03:03
danny50010lol03:03
intelikeybut DoS attacks can't touch sush a slow connection.....  all it can do is cause a ping timeout   :)      pro's and con's to everything i guess.03:03
danny50010you'll get a shok03:03
danny50010c03:03
danny50010shock03:03
danny50010sorry03:03
danny50010told you my brain was slow03:03
danny5001000.000001mbps03:04
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rr72intelikey~ how do i install nvidia by hand? all the gcc versions are wrong and can't find one on the server that fits my kernel03:04
rr72don't u mean bytes not mbs03:04
DragnslcrHow would I have a button in the KDE panel run an app through sudo?03:04
danny50010I already told you, you will get a shock if you do it by hand.03:04
danny50010got to www.nvidia.com and download them.03:05
abattoirDragnslcr: just add a normal button, but in the command called to execute it prefix sudo or kdesu03:05
danny50010or use the cd your card came with03:05
intelikeyrr72 i'm not much on compiling,  better ask someone else.03:05
danny50010ok03:05
rr72LeeJunFan~ around? my gcc version is too high03:05
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h3sp4wnrr72: what kernel version are you running ?03:06
rr722.6.12-9-38603:06
intelikeycan't you have multi-gcc's ???03:06
danny50010what's a gcc?03:06
h3sp4wnrr72: on breezy ?03:06
rr72iirc yes03:06
intelikey12 ?03:06
_gregThanks Hawkwind, now I have another toy to play with.03:07
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intelikeybreezy kernel ?03:07
Dragnslcrabattoir- tried adding sudo before it, and the app wouldn't launch03:07
abattoirDragnslcr: kdesu ?03:07
danny50010gay cock collecters?03:07
danny50010just joking03:07
_gregrr72, I did it on a Mandrake install and it was a royal pain in the ass.03:07
danny50010don't mind that03:07
abattoirDragnslcr: kdesu, because sudo will not bring up a gui p/d dialog... which kdesu will03:08
intelikey2.6.15-26-386 here.03:08
h3sp4wnrr72: cat /etc/lsb-release (that will tell you what version you are on)03:08
danny50010that's what gcc stands for03:08
rr72ive don't it before and it was easy03:08
danny50010lol03:08
rr72*done03:08
rr72h3sp4wn~ yeah breazy03:08
intelikeygcc = gnu c compiler03:09
Dragnslcrabattoir- I'll give that shot. I found a workaround. Items in the regular menu have a "run as" option03:09
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h3sp4wnrr72: If I remember correctly with breezy everything is compiled with gcc 4 except the kernel which is built with 3.4.403:10
kbrooksHow do I compress a directory uing 7z ?03:10
draik**other than 'cat /etc/lsb-release' you can also type 'lsb_release -a' and it will give you the same info03:11
rr72draik~ idc i got it03:11
rr72h3sp4wn~ so what do i do?03:11
josh__ok03:12
h3sp4wnrr72: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 before you run the nvidia program see whether it honors that03:12
crimsunkbrooks: 7zr -a foo.blah dir03:12
crimsunkbrooks: sorry, not -a but a03:12
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josh__whats that package i need to install to play mp3's03:13
josh__i instsalled the repositories03:13
abattoirlibxine-extracodecs03:13
josh__thx03:13
abattoirnikkiana: mouse works?03:13
rr72h3sp4wn~ ty03:13
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rr72h3sp4wn~ ty so much03:13
josh__omg03:13
josh__i don't have it03:14
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abattoirjosh__: did you click 'Fetch Updates'03:14
rr72fixed my computer03:14
h3sp4wnrr72: It worked ?03:14
josh__yes03:14
nikkianaabattoir, well, sort of03:14
intelikeyabattoir i think he may be on breezy03:14
josh__i'm on kubuntu03:15
josh__6.0603:15
josh__dappper drake03:15
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rr72h3sp4wn~ i kept getting signal 11 error and u helped me fix it03:15
abattoirjosh__: then if you did the steps right, the package should be there03:15
josh__ugh03:15
nikkianaabattoir, i need to disable that dumb feature where you double click on the touchpad and it acts like a left mouseclick....03:15
kbrookswow03:15
kbrookscrimsun: thanks03:15
nikkianai've effectively lost two posts on the ubuntu forums that i was going to make because of that....03:15
abattoirnikkiana: try installing ksynaptics/qsynaptics03:15
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kbrookscrimsun: 7z gives great compression03:16
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crimsunkbrooks: for many use cases, yes.03:16
draikhow do you change/add multiverse repos?03:16
rr72ryno who? i was ryno over a year ago03:16
abattoirjosh__: try going through the page again and make sure you've done the steps right03:16
rr72but changed to a cooler nick03:16
abattoir!multiverse > draik03:16
jmichaelxman, my kubuntu install was working so well, but tonight it would not boot up anymore. does anyone know if there are someitmes bad issues when using 915resolution?03:16
nikkianaabattoir, i'll give it a shot03:16
intelikeyhey kid how are ya  :)03:17
kbrookscrimsun: when i compress ~/Examples w/ tar.gz, tar.bz2 and 7z, 7z wins03:17
draikabattoir, thank you03:17
abattoirnikkiana: you might need to mess a bit w/ xorg.conf to get that working though03:17
abattoirdraik: :)03:17
jmichaelxwhat's up intelikey03:17
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nikkianaabattoir, i think that's what i had to do last time....03:17
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kbrookscrimsun: well, i ignored the bz2. removed it because it was creating a bigger file03:18
abattoirnikkiana: you should enable SHMConfig under your synaptics entry in xorg.conf03:18
jmichaelxi am having to re-install kubuntu on my laptop tonight after all of that work... this sucks so bad i have been tempted to ditch linux.... but of course i won't03:18
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nikkianaabattoir, not to sound utterly retarted but where do i find xorg.conf? (my fiance edited it for me last time, that's why i'm clueless)03:18
abattoirnikkiana: /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:19
nikkianaabattoir, thanks03:19
abattoirnikkiana: np :)03:19
rr72h3sp4wn~ do i need to make it back to what ever it was?03:19
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danny50010you guy's get frozen to?03:20
jmichaelxfrozen?03:20
josh__YES!03:20
danny50010i sent to many haha"s03:20
josh__it works03:20
danny50010sorry03:20
draikabattoir, It works. I was having the same issue as josh__03:20
abattoirjosh__: mp3 ?03:21
abattoiroh sorry, that was for draik03:21
jmichaelxdoes anyone in here use 915resolution? can it mess your system up?03:21
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josh__well i want to play mp3's from my other partition03:21
danny50010I use 120003:21
danny50010and no it can't03:21
draikabattoir, Yes. That's why I use XMMS instead of amaroK03:21
abattoirjmichaelx: i remember helping someone w/ that(was that you) ?03:21
h3sp4wnrr72: If you do it that way no when you reboot it will be back to normal03:21
jmichaelx015resolution is a package that enables 1280x80003:21
abattoirdraik: oh, ok :)03:22
danny50010depends what tpe of screen your using and graphics card to03:22
rr72h3sp4wn~ i never reboot, i think that is what did it to it03:22
abattoirjosh__: open up konqueror, type 'media:/'03:22
rr72power outage03:22
abattoirjosh__: see if your windows partition is recognised and click on it, that should 'mount' it03:22
jmichaelxabattoir: no, it wasn't, although i was told to look for you. i installed 915resolution and it ruined my kubuntu install :-(03:22
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abattoirjosh__: then open amarok and look for the file... for eg. if it is media:/hda1, look under /media/hda103:23
jmichaelxdanny50010: you could get banned for doing that03:23
josh__yeah03:23
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abattoirjmichaelx: look for me? i wonder who told that :P03:23
josh__in system it sees that partition and i can access the files03:23
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abattoir!ops03:23
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jmichaelxwolfmanz told me that, i think03:23
josh__!lag03:23
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nikkianaabattoir, i think installing ksynatpic switches the synaptic driver back to the xorg one.... or at least, that's what just happened to me...03:24
naliothjosh__: /ping ubotu for a lag check03:24
abattoirjmichaelx: does the program recognise your resolution ?03:24
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josh__ok so amarok isn't playing my shit03:24
abattoirnikkiana: hmmm, it doesnt do that for me :S, weird03:24
naliothjosh__: it's not supposed to play that, it's made for mp303:24
josh__yeah03:24
josh__and i'm trying to play mp3's03:24
jmichaelxabattoir: 915resolution worked great for me... until i rebooted... then i could not get X to start anymore. i tried everything. talk about a heartache03:24
jmichaelxheartbreak*03:25
abattoirjmichaelx: ok, so you cant boot into your system?03:25
jmichaelxabattoir: no, i had help and we tried. i am re-installing as we speak03:25
josh__it plays in kaffeine03:26
josh__not amarok though03:26
jmichaelxbut, i am scared to try 915resolution again03:26
nikkianajosh__, did you set up what your engine for amarok is?03:26
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abattoirjmichaelx: hmm, a 'sudo dexconf' would have restored your xorg.conf... if only X was the problem03:26
abattoirno need to reinstall03:26
_gregjosh__: amorak is kind of bloated (imho). try xmms03:26
jmichaelxabattoir: then the issue must have been more than X, we tries drxconf03:27
jmichaelxdexconf*03:27
abattoirjmichaelx: hmmm, must have been then, i dont exactly know what happened... so03:27
jmichaelxabattoir: it was only me theory that it was 915resolution... that was the only thing i had recently changed03:28
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jmichaelxwho knows what happened... i had bad flashbacks of BSOD03:28
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abattoirjmichaelx: it well could be, but did you try restarting X alone... to see if it worked?03:29
abattoiror did you just reboot ?03:29
jmichaelxabattoir: yes, it would not work03:29
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jmichaelxi tried both, abattoir03:29
abattoirjmichaelx: but the res was detected by the program right?03:29
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jmichaelxabattoir: yes, it was nice03:29
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abattoirjmichaelx: did you run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' after that and selected your resolution?03:29
jmichaelxwhile it lasted...03:30
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jmichaelxabattoir: yes03:30
jmichaelxabattoir: oops, NO03:30
jmichaelxi didn't03:30
josh__there is NO bass03:30
rr72LeeJunFan~ all fixed03:30
josh__i tried the eq and it doesnt help03:30
abattoirjmichaelx: well, i think you should03:30
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jmichaelxabattoir: when i installed 915resolution, i just ran '915resolution' in a terminal and rebooted03:31
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abattoirjmichaelx: atleast that's what made it work for the other person... wolfmanz? maybe he remembers03:31
jmichaelxabattoir: you think that may have been my fatal wrror?03:31
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jmichaelxerror*03:31
abattoirjmichaelx: i think the procedure is to run the program, see if your resolution is listed, then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select your resolution,03:32
_robertaalguem sabe como abrir um arquivo .rpm?03:32
abattoirand restart x03:32
caiocafeabrir rpm pra que?03:32
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jmichaelxabattoir: i am going to do all of that right now, so i hope you will be in here for a bit03:32
jmichaelxif you have time03:32
abattoirjmichaelx: should be :)03:32
jmichaelxawesome03:33
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aniquilaplease, some people knows how to open a archive .rpm?03:33
aniquilaplease, some people knows how to open a archive .rpm?03:33
rr72click on it?03:33
abattoiraniquila: you want to install it?03:33
abattoiraniquila: ubuntu is a debian based system which doesnt support rpm natively03:34
aniquilaabattoir: ow yesss.. do you know?03:34
jmichaelxabattoir: 915resolution installed... shouyld i run it in a terminal next?03:34
abattoirtry getting a deb03:34
abattoirjmichaelx: yes with a -l flag right?03:34
jmichaelxabattoir: i don't know what that is lol03:34
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abattoiraniquila: shich program03:34
timii want to change my bootsplash03:34
jmichaelxsudo 915resolution -l    ?03:35
abattoirjmichaelx: iirc it was 915resolution -l03:35
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abattoirjmichaelx: i'm not sure, check that out03:35
jmichaelxok03:35
timii think i need kbootsplash  but i can't apt-get that03:35
abattoiraniquila: *which program?03:35
aniquilaabattoir: what the programs that open archives .rpm?03:35
abattoiraniquila: ugh, i told you, you cant install rpms in a debian system03:35
jmichaelxabattoir: ok, that is what i did03:36
abattoiraniquila: either try getting a deb, or worst-case scenario, use alien to convert03:36
abattoirjmichaelx: your resolution is listed right?03:36
abattoir!br03:36
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.03:36
aniquilaabattoir: alien? it's a program?03:36
jmichaelxabattoir: i hope i am not annoying you at all by asking to walk me through this.... i am scared to go it alone this time lol03:36
abattoiraniquila: maybe someone there can help you better03:36
jmichaelxabattoir: yes, it is03:36
abattoirjmichaelx: heh, you can always reinstall :P03:37
jmichaelx1280x800 32 bit is it (i think)03:37
abattoiraniquila: yes, alien is a program which converts rpm to deb03:37
jmichaelxabattoir: oh yeah, i know that03:37
aniquilaabattoir: oww thanks03:37
abattoirjmichaelx: ok, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'03:37
abattoirjmichaelx: choose your res etc.03:38
abattoiraniquila: no problem :)03:38
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jmichaelxabattoir: i never know how to answer all of these questions.....03:38
jmichaelxbrb03:38
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abattoirjmichaelx: use default if you dont know03:39
abattoirexcept for the resolution of course :)03:39
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abattoirnikkiana: have you tried krita ?03:40
_gregyeah krita is the bomb03:40
abattoirnikkiana: i dont know if it is easier than gimp, but people say it is easy to use for common image manipulation tasks03:41
draik!krita > draik03:41
ubotuI know nothing about krita  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:41
nikkianaabattoir, yeah, i tried it but it wasn't exactly what i wanted either03:41
aniquilaabattoir:  hey, where i find the alien?03:41
abattoir!info alien03:41
ubotualien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB03:41
abattoiraniquila: 'sudo apt-get install alien'03:41
abattoiraniquila: or you can get if from adept03:41
abattoiraniquila: whichever you find easier :)03:42
draikwhat is the purpose to alien?03:42
aniquilaabattoir: this program already install in my pc..03:42
abattoirdraik: to convert b/w different packaging formats, rpms,debs etc.03:42
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abattoiraniquila: good, the try 'alien file.rpm' ... wait i'll confirm that command03:43
jmichaelxabattoir: should i attempt monitor autodetection?03:43
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abattoirjmichaelx: yeah sure, why not :P03:43
jmichaelxk03:43
nikkianaokay that was REALLY strange....03:43
nikkianahas anyone ever had their installation of kubuntu randomly log them out?03:44
catadoxassounds wierd03:44
abattoirnikkiana: no i just had konqueror and yakuake just shutdown... w/o me doing anything... weird indeed03:44
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nikkianamy screen went black command line style, asked for my password.... i gave it, then it popped me back into the login screen for Kubuntu03:44
aniquilaabattoir: where's i put this command?03:44
nikkianathat was just.... bizzare.03:45
draikkonsole03:45
abattoiraniquila: in a terminal.. konsole?03:45
abattoiraniquila: also put sudo before that03:45
abattoiraniquila: i think it'd be 'sudo alien -d filename.rpm03:45
abattoir'sudo alien -d filename.rpm'03:45
aniquilaabattoir:  ow thanks, i try it..03:45
abattoiraniquila: i'm sorry not exactly sure about the command, tell me if it works03:46
timianyone know wht i use to change my bootsplash03:46
jmichaelxabattoir: ok, now how to i restar X?03:46
abattoirok, something is weird, i'll relogin03:46
jmichaelxrestart*03:46
timicntrl alt backspace03:46
metalheddwhats one of those pages where you can paste logs/source code etc and get a link?03:46
abattoirjmichaelx: close all open applications, and do that ^^^03:46
abattoir!paste03:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:46
metalheddthanks!03:47
timiabattoir do you know how i cchange my bootsplash03:47
jmichaelxand do what? :-(03:47
catadoxasI cant seem to set my screen res higher than 1024x... why could that be?03:47
abattoirtimi: well bootsplash is the term used for a lot of things... unfortunately03:47
abattoirtimi: you mean, when kubuntu loads or when grub loads?03:47
timilike for the os03:48
timikubuntu03:48
draiktimi, do you mean the part with the desktop environment loading?03:48
abattoirtimi: so after grub loads right? search in the ubuntu community docs for usplash03:48
abattoirbrb03:48
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timidraik03:48
jmichaelxcatadoxas: what kind of video card do you have?03:48
catadoxasnvidia03:48
timii changed my kdm and my splash screen03:48
jmichaelxhmm03:48
catadoxas7800 gtx03:48
timiso im trying to change to the matching bootsplash03:48
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jmichaelxcatadoxas: then i am not the one to ask lol03:49
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draiktimi, http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=35&PHPSESSID=2c131782ffd06d68285810e22b3ca0e003:49
jmichaelxabacan i just reboot at this point? i don't know how to restart X03:49
timidraik03:49
draikjmichaelx, CTRL+ALT+Backspace03:49
timithats a spalsh screen03:49
timii already changed that03:49
jmichaelxdraik: ty03:49
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draikjmichaelx, welcome03:50
draiktimi, brb03:50
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jmichaelxman, re-installing is a witch with a capital B03:51
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jmichaelxi had such a hard time getting my wireless to work, here we go again03:51
catadoxasdont say it was metgear jmichal?03:52
catadoxasnetgear03:52
jmichaelxcatadoxas: no, an intel... broadcom03:53
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abattoirjmichaelx: works??03:54
timii just dl the tarball? for kbootsplash how do i compile it so its a program03:54
jmichaelxabattoir: so far, but have not yet rebooted03:56
abattoirjmichaelx: it worked last time too?03:56
jmichaelxabattoir: i'll let you know in a short bit03:56
jmichaelxabattoir: yeah, it worked until i rebooted03:56
abattoirjmichaelx: heh, keep your fingers crossed then :P03:56
abattoirtimi: see the INSTALL file in the archive03:57
timiok03:57
abattoirtimi: mostly it'd be './configure', 'make' and 'sudo make install'03:57
timiok03:58
Kr4t05Does anyone know how to install a new bootsplash?03:59
timiahaha03:59
timikr4t05 im currently trying to figure that out03:59
timiive gotten as far as downloading aprogram for it03:59
Kr4t05Hrm...04:00
abattoirhttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Change_Usplash might help you guys04:00
abattoiror even https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto04:01
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scabootsscadoes anyone know how to remove all traces of grub?04:02
scabootsscaand then reinstall it totally fresh.04:02
bgrimmis the msttcorefont package no longer available? i don't see it even with multiverse set in repositories.04:03
abattoir!info msttcorefonts04:03
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB04:03
abattoirscabootssca: 'sudo apt-get install --reintstall grub' ???04:04
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jmichaelxabattoir: it looks like all is well, thank you so much for the help!04:05
abattoirjmichaelx: glad to be of help :)04:05
abattoiri guess you should have reconfigured X the first time04:05
nikkianaabattoir, thanks for making me take a second look at krita04:05
abattoirnikkiana: hehe04:05
abattoirnikkiana: i should do that one of these days too :P04:06
scabootsscaabattoir: it didnt refresh anything the menu.lst is still the same04:06
nikkianaabattoir, i can see a few things that need improvement with it but i'm not getting nearly as frusterated with it as i have been with the gimp04:06
abattoirscabootssca: you want a 'stock' menu.lst file?04:06
scabootsscai want the grub instalation just like it would be when it gets first installed by setup04:07
Kr4t05scabootssca: use "--purge"04:07
scabootsscagrub --purge?04:07
Kr4t05nonono04:08
scabootsscawhat?04:08
scabootsscajust --purge?04:08
Kr4t05'sudo apt-get remove --purge grub'04:08
scabootsscaahh ok04:08
Kr4t05then, "sudo apt-get install grub04:08
Kr4t05"04:08
scabootsscasudo apt-get install grub04:10
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scabootsscaok how do i make the grub install my zp partition on hdb?04:11
scabootsscazp = xp04:11
scabootsscawin xp04:11
scabootsscaany ideas?04:12
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draiktimi, how goes your usplash?04:15
nikkianahow difficult is it to install true type fonts?04:15
draikAnyone here know of any school/courses that teach Linux and it's basics?04:16
dptI can't get amarom to play mp3 because lib...extracodes isn't find after elminating all # in /etc/apt/sources.list04:17
dpti can't find that package and i have already enabled all repositories04:17
dptis there any repository that i have to add manually?04:17
draikdpt, have you enable multiverse on your repository?04:17
dptlet me check04:19
Hobbseedpt: put multiverse after every universe in your sources list04:20
Kr4t05Ok,04:20
Kr4t05How do I change the KDM theme?04:20
draikdpt, as Hobbsee said, just double-click on the universe repo's and add 'multiverse' at the end and press ENTER04:22
draikfollowed by Fetch Updates and you'll be fine04:22
dptit worked, thanks a lot04:22
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draikyw, dpt04:23
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intelikeyanybody use paul ?04:26
nikkianaor at least krita would be nice if it weren't prone to crashing on my computer... le sigh.04:27
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ubuntui need to remaster kubuntu- where is the best source of information for the 6 release?04:31
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abattoir!classroom04:32
ubotuThe Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom04:32
abattoirdraik: ^^^^ might be interested04:32
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draikabattoir, interested?!?! That's like saying the ocean is a bit damp04:32
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abattoirhehe04:33
josh__there is NO bass when i play music04:33
josh__whats going on here04:33
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josh__hold on i'm going to reboot04:33
abattoirjosh__: there is always bass :P you probably are not hearing it ;)04:33
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josh__no, there isn't bass04:33
josh__i cant hear it04:34
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josh__but i have the alsa drivers installed04:34
josh__maybe that has something to do with it?04:34
josh__k brb gonna reboot04:34
ubuntu_oops should probably change nick^^ /nick then new nick right?04:35
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intelikey04:35
Azzcothere okay I'm back to kubuntu after giving microsoft a second chance...I still have one problem though...games...I normally only play one game and I really don't want to keep windows just becuase of one game :(04:36
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HobbseeAzzco: which game?04:36
AzzcoUnreal tournament04:36
helpplzI dont get any sound when trying to play quake :( anyone now how I can get it?04:36
AzzcoI can't get open gl to work correctly or something04:37
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Azzcogot a i915 chipset I think04:37
draikHmmm... Is your Unreal Tournament supportive for Linux?04:37
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Azzcoyupp04:37
MojoRisonhello04:37
draikI have UT200404:37
Azzcoit's my configs that aint right...04:38
AzzcoI need proper drivers for my i915 chipset it seems...can't find much help in the forums...04:38
draikLemme check the specs of the game...04:38
Azzcothere was this thread...but the guy got some help and didn't tell what he did04:38
Azzcookay04:38
Dodger_are we talking the original UT or 2004?04:39
MojoRisoncan anyone help me....reinstalled ubuntu and having problems getting codecs for totem....kaffeine is working fine....but totem not so much04:39
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Azzcooriginal04:39
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Azzcobut I've got the same problem with both of them =P04:39
Dodger_and what's the problem, exactly?04:39
Azzcoit says something about missing 00 glx thingy...04:40
AzzcoI got it to work once...that was when I had just installed kubuntu but the graphics was horrible04:40
Azzcoand it had autodetected i915 chipset so I switched to that and didn't get it to work since...04:40
Dodger_horrible as in slow?04:41
Azzcoslow, big pixels you name it04:41
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scabootsscahow do i add windows xp to my grub boot menu?04:42
scabootsscawithout manually editing the menu.lst file?04:42
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justinperrim kinda new to kubuntu and i set up wine and out of nowhere it keeps telling me that "Application tried to create a window, but no driver coudl be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly04:43
intelikeyscabootssca did it not work for you ?04:44
scabootsscait just sits there and showd the windows entry in thje boot.lst file and flashes a little corsor04:44
scabootsscaand does nothing04:44
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intelikeyscabootssca bios does see both drive doesn't it?  cause if not grub can't boot it.  you will have to use lilo04:45
scabootsscabios knows both drivers are there04:45
Dodger_Azzco: try "sudo aptitude search i915" to see if there's anything related to that in one of the repositories you have04:45
scabootsscaand i'll use lilo if i can gwtr it to work i really dont care04:46
scabootsscai just want something to work04:46
Dodger_and you actually don't need to sudo that, aptitude should work without04:46
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Azzcothx dodger04:46
AzzcoI'll write it down...(currently reinstalling kubuntu)04:47
scabootsscaso i'm ready to try lilo how do i start04:47
intelikeyscabootssca yeah try lilo04:47
Dodger_it looks like there's source for it, so if you're familiar with compiling your own kernel module04:47
intelikeyscabootssca install it.04:47
intelikeyscabootssca sudo apt-get install lilo04:47
AzzcoDodger_: well not really =s04:48
scabootsscaok done04:48
Azzcookay I'll be back in a while Rebooting04:48
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helpplzI dont get any sound in quake3.. how can I get the sound to work?04:49
intelikeyscabootssca in one terminal open  man lilo.conf     in another  sudo nano /etc/lilo.conf04:49
scabootsscaok04:50
intelikeyscabootssca also it would help to know what's in /boot    so    ls /boot   for us please04:50
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scabootsscawhat?04:51
intelikey!pastebin04:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:51
intelikeypastebin the output of   ls /boot04:52
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scabootsscaok done ->> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1883004:53
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intelikeyscabootssca are you starting with a blank lilo.conf ?04:54
intelikeyor did the installer build you an example lilo.conf ???04:55
scabootsscai dunno04:55
scabootsscahow do i check04:56
scabootsscasorry for sounding so stupid04:56
Azzcoit's okay we've all been/are there ;)04:57
intelikeyscabootssca you have   sudo nano /etc/lilo.conf   open   is there anything in it ?04:57
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scabootsscait's not empty04:58
scabootsscaso yeah04:58
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scabootsscathere's stuff in it04:58
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intelikeyok  is there a line with  "image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386"  and some perams below it ?04:59
intelikeyi'm trying to make this as easy for you as i can, so bare with me.04:59
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scabootsscaok i see the line05:01
scabootsscaand tanks for making it easy05:01
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intelikeyscabootssca have a look at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d18831     that should work for you.    you do have linux on hda1  correct ?05:01
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intelikeytry cp /etc/lilo.conf .   and put that in it's place.05:02
intelikeythat should make it easy enough.05:02
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intelikeyyou can clear the nano buffer with ^k    that's ctrl-k cuts one line at a time...  with the mouse copy and paste in that pastebin ^  save and exit.    run   sudo lilo     it will tell you if there are errors.    if no errors   you should be ready to dual boot.05:04
AzzcoDodger_:  you still there?05:04
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scabootsscalinux linux is on hda1 ya05:05
intelikeyscabootssca any questions or problems  just let me know.05:05
rocketman768why can I not mount an ntfs partition? I type 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 -t ntfs /windows' and it tells me hda1 is already mounted (which it's not) or that /windows is busy (if it means locked, it's not). What's the problem?05:05
scabootsscaok thanjks05:06
intelikeyrocketman768 does /windows  exist ?    ls /05:06
rocketman768yes, i created it05:06
rocketman768i can't even get it to mount using kubuntu's nice graphical utility05:06
intelikeyand   ls / shows it ?05:06
rocketman768yes05:06
intelikeyok does  mount    show any line with /dev/hda1   in it ?05:07
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rocketman768nope05:07
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elijahlofgrenrocketman768: You could try running  sudo fdisk -l     to make sure that windows is on /dev/hda105:08
rocketman768i did that, and yes, hda1 is an ntfs partition05:08
intelikeyok does dd if=/dev/hda1 count=1 | less  show the partition table ?   just in case a module is not loaded or the device node is missing...05:08
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rocketman768it shows a bunch of gobbledy gook05:10
intelikeyonly other question is    did you run sudo mount /dev/hda1 /windows     or just mount blah.   ?05:10
rocketman768with some things like "ntldr is missing"05:10
elijahlofgrenrocketman768: I tried running that and get a bunch of junk and then 3 errors. But mounting works fine for me.05:10
rocketman768'sudo mount /dev/hda1 -t ntfs /windows'05:10
rocketman768is what i ran05:10
rocketman768and i also tried editing the fstab, but to no avail05:11
elijahlofgrenrocketman768: Running that works for me fine. (Windows for me is on sda1 though)05:11
intelikeysudo modprobe ntfs    ?05:11
elijahlofgrenrocketman768: Does booting into Windows work fine?05:11
rocketman768works fine05:11
rocketman768intelikey: what's the output supposed to be?05:12
intelikeyon which ?05:12
rocketman768modprobe ntfs05:12
intelikeynone05:12
rocketman768ok, got none05:12
intelikeyno error is no error05:12
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intelikeytry mounting again05:13
elijahlofgrenrocketman768: Maybe try: sudo umount /dev/hda105:13
rocketman768same thing05:13
intelikeywithout -t05:13
rocketman768umount says it's not mounted05:13
rocketman768without -t gives the same error05:13
elijahlofgrenrocketman768: Maybe try mounting it somewhere else, like /mnt/windows05:14
rocketman768did that too05:14
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intelikeywell you've got a dandy     let me recap  just for a minute.05:14
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intelikeythe partition and device nodes check ok.  module is inserted,  mount point exists....   it does boot  so there is no structural dammage....  hmmm05:15
rocketman768correct05:15
intelikeyencripted ?05:16
rocketman768and like i said, kubuntu's graphical thing even gives me the same error05:16
rocketman768no, i used to mount this partition just fine under breezy05:16
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intelikeythen i'd say you have found a bug.     don't know if it's in mount or your kernel....05:17
intelikeyuname -r05:17
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rocketman768it's a custom kernel, so it's very likely there, although i don't know how05:18
rocketman7682.6.15.705:18
intelikeyand generally speaking it's much better to NOT use the -t option on mount.05:18
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intelikeyrocketman768 no ntfs support.    lsmod05:18
intelikeyor  lsmod | grep ntfs05:19
scabootsscaintelikey: it still starts up in grub05:19
rocketman768it's there05:19
intelikeyscabootssca did you run    sudo lilo    ?05:19
rocketman768ntfs                  108016  005:19
scabootssca?05:19
flaccid__hmm05:20
intelikeyrocketman768 idk.05:20
rocketman768i hate dapper05:20
scabootsscai just did05:20
flaccid__i love dapper lol05:20
flaccid__dang05:20
intelikeyscabootssca you must run    sudo lilo    to activate it and also after changes to lilo.conf05:20
rocketman768i shoulda known better and just got the damn kde upgrade05:20
flaccid__it'll make ya stronger05:21
rocketman768lol, sure05:21
scabootsscaintelikey: it said Added Linux* Added Windows*05:21
scabootsscai'll restart again05:21
intelikeyscabootssca it will test the boot parametor and if they all pass show the list of boot options if it errors then it doesn't install the new mbr.05:21
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bigfoot1i put the floppy disk into the A: drive. now what do i do to read/access save files onto it?05:24
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intelikeymount it05:25
bigfoot1how do i mount?+05:25
francis3dhey05:25
RawSewagehow do I make certain programs start at startup05:25
elijahlofgrenRawSewage: Login to KDE or PC boot-up?05:26
RawSewagelogin05:26
intelikeysudo mkdir /media/floppy ;sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy -o umaks=005:26
intelikeyraw init scripts05:26
RawSewageelijahlofgren, I like to start with an empty session05:26
RawSewageintelikey, xfce has a nice app that does it05:26
RawSewagehm05:26
francis3doh shit05:26
flaccid__RawSewage: KDE Autostart05:26
francis3dnerds05:26
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RawSewageok ty05:26
flaccid__make symlink in ~/.Autostart05:27
intelikeyok .kde/startup/  scripts05:27
joelhey guys, im having a problem where my system keeps repeating a certain keystroke05:27
joelanyone know how to fix it?05:27
francis3dthis is my firt day using kubuntu05:27
bigfoot1intelikey: thanks05:27
RawSewageintelikey, I dont know any scripting05:27
bigfoot1now how do i go there in nautilus?05:27
francis3di love it05:27
flaccid__sorry ~/.kde/Autostart05:27
RawSewageI want an app05:27
joelit seems to be pasting whats on my clipboard over and over again05:28
RawSewageis KDE Autostart an app05:28
flaccid__RawSewage: create symlink in the Autostart folder, kde will launch all symlinks in that folder on kde start05:28
flaccid__i guess it is an app yes05:28
RawSewageI dont know how to do that05:28
rr72only bash coding tho?05:28
RawSewagexfce has a nice easy autostart app.  I though KDE would too05:28
flaccid__RawSewage: open the folder in konqueror right click and select link to application05:29
RawSewagethere we go05:29
RawSewagekcontrol-autostart05:29
intelikeyRawSewage kde probably has one.   look in 'system settings'    kde help   has a search feature.    i don't use a GUI much...05:29
flaccid__RawSewage: Autostart is nice...05:29
bigfoot1how come i can't save onto the floppy?05:29
RawSewageinstalling now05:29
RawSewageok ty05:29
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RawSewageintelikey, Im a Windows moron05:30
RawSewageI dont use the terminal much05:30
elijahlofgrenRawSewage: Then you'll want to run: kcontrol instead of clicking on "System Settings" in the menu.05:30
RawSewageelijahlofgren, theres an app:  kcontrol-autostart05:30
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RawSewagewhich Im now installing05:30
intelikeyi don't use the terminal much either..... console user here....05:30
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RawSewageare those different05:31
RawSewageI thought it was the same thing05:31
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elijahlofgrenRawSewage: yep, and it'll show up in the kcontrol program under KDE Components -> Autostart Applications05:31
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RawSewageelijahlofgren, it's there now05:32
flaccid__hmm i don't have that on this kde05:32
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RawSewageI dont think it's there by default on Dapper05:32
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elijahlofgrenIt's not. You have it install kcontrol-autostart.05:33
aeon17xwhere can I find my system properties in KDE?05:33
scabootsscaintelikey, thanks it worked05:33
scabootsscai'm on windows now05:33
RawSewageok, another question:  I enter the app name.  then it wants a command.  what do I need to enter for the command, if I just want it to run05:33
scabootsscaand linux boots also05:33
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flaccid__RawSewage: enter the location of the command05:33
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elijahlofgrenRawSewage: Enter the app name in Lowercase letters. I.E for Gaim enter "gaim"05:34
RawSewageoh05:34
RawSewageok ty05:34
intelikeyscabootssca welcome05:34
flaccid__^ if command is in path05:34
elijahlofgrenaeon17x: System info?05:34
aeon17xelijahlofgren: yup, system info05:34
elijahlofgrenaeon17x: "K Menu -> System -> KInfoCenter05:34
RawSewageOk, I'll test it05:34
aeon17xelijahlofgren: that would be the device manager05:35
aeon17xI'm just looking for system properties, like what distro I'm using, linux version, etc05:35
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elijahlofgrenaeon17x: If you run "kcontrol" it shows that data on the opening screen.05:36
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RawSewageok, so what did I do wrong05:36
aeon17xelijahlofgren: alright, thanks05:36
RawSewagethe command for konversation would be what05:36
intelikeyaeon17x uname -a && lsb_release -a05:36
elijahlofgrenRawSewage: konversation ;)05:36
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RawSewageName I put  Konversation    command I put konversation05:37
RawSewagedidnt work05:37
elijahlofgrenRawSewage: Hmm. Try /usr/bin/konversation05:37
RawSewageok05:37
intelikey /usr/bin/konversation05:37
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scabootsscsa_and now i'm back on linux05:38
elijahlofgrenRawSewage: To find where a program is type "whereis programname", ie "whereis konversation" into a Terminal.05:38
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RawSewageok, cool05:38
intelikeyscabootsscsa_  you and your spook05:38
RawSewagebtw, when I start up Kubuntu, I notice a bouncy Konversation icon when it's starting05:38
RawSewageI wonder what that is05:39
RawSewageoh, nm05:39
RawSewageit's not the Konversation icon05:39
RawSewageits the KDE icon05:39
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RawSewageok, restarting05:39
scabootsscsa_AHH I AM MY GHOST05:39
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scabootsscsa_and caps lock is on sorry05:40
unstablesobanyone know of a good podcast client for kde?05:40
intelikeyyup05:40
Kr4t05unstablesob: amarok05:40
intelikey:)05:40
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RawSewagethat didnt work.  it says it has no TYPE05:41
RawSewageweird05:41
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RawSewageso I guess konversation alone would work05:41
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intelikeyRawSewage starting it from the command line might need some switches   --server blah --port #  --nick name   and so forth    but are you sure you want konversation to start automatically ?05:43
RawSewageintelikey, yes05:43
DaSkreechaseigo: Ping05:44
intelikeymaybe just an icon on the desktop/taskbar ???05:44
DaSkreechNo stirring today folks :005:44
RawSewageno05:44
intelikeyok.05:44
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aseigoDaSkreech: gnip05:44
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DaSkreechaseigo: Kcontrol is being tanked?05:45
rocketman768anybody ever seen05:45
aseigoDaSkreech: likely, yes.05:45
b_how do i tell what programs are running05:45
DaSkreechaseigo: Likely replacement ?05:45
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b_like for windows theirs a taks manager how do i find what programs are runnin on linux05:45
RawSewagelol05:45
aseigoDaSkreech: don't know for sure yet.05:45
rocketman768anybody ever seen, "modprobe: FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15.7/modules.dep no such file or directory" during bootup?05:46
DaSkreechaseigo: Sings along and turns up the karoke05:46
RawSewageaseigo, did you watch that Shatner video05:46
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RawSewageok, restarting05:46
aseigoRawSewage: which one?05:46
DaSkreechaseigo: Sooo we are going back to hand rolled vi configs?05:47
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DaSkreechOr that will be addressed in time05:47
aseigoDaSkreech: heheh.. you know it ;)05:47
aseigoDaSkreech: nah... kcm is being worked on ... become KSettings* (e.g. KSettingsWidget, etc)05:47
aseigoDaSkreech: the question remaining is what the shell application will be to replace kcontrol itself05:47
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aseigoDaSkreech: we're still at least 4 months away from needing to write that though05:48
RawSewageaseigo, Shatner singing Rocket Man05:48
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DaSkreechAh So plenty of time to start a bidding war over who wants to write it :)05:48
RawSewageOk, I did it the way you all told me to do it orignially.  go to the Autostart folder and make a symlink05:48
aseigoDaSkreech: kcm -> kcontrolmodule .. it's what the programmer sees05:48
DaSkreechaseigo: Ah Goodness then :)05:49
DaSkreechJust need a koolness wrap around for it05:49
b_how do i tell what programs are running????????????05:49
Kr4t05b_: run "top" from the konsole.05:50
DaSkreechb_: Ctrl+esc05:50
BradZHey.  Is it just the ~/.kde, ~/.kderc and ~/.qt directories I need to rsync to get identical KDE configs running on different hosts?05:50
BradZOr is there a nicer profile sync type tool out there?05:50
b_ty05:50
DaSkreechaseigo: I take it that Knoware is dead?05:51
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aseigoDaSkreech: no idea05:52
DaSkreechHmm OK05:52
intelikeyxtop05:53
intelikeyscabootsscsa_ your spook timed out05:54
scabootsscsa_oh well05:57
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|brad|has anyone installed swat in kubuntu before?06:06
Cornelliusswat ?06:07
|brad|samba web admin tool06:07
|brad|used it all day when i used slackware06:07
|brad|tried to install samba on a friends kubuntu box and got a headache06:07
Kadranhi how to install chineese keyboard layout?06:07
|brad|he is a n00b so it didnt help that i had a hard time with swat when i said linux was awesome06:08
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xylushey anyone know what those programs that show stuff on yr desktop are called?06:09
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|brad|karamba06:09
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xyluslike ittel have a picture of a harddrive and next to it ittel show cpu speed and stuff06:10
xylussuck right on your desktop06:10
xyluscan anyone help me find out how to do th?at06:10
|brad|http://bradleyalanprice.com/images/snapshot.png <--- you mean like that thing06:10
xylushold on i check :)06:10
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xylusyes exactley!06:11
xylushow brad :)06:11
jmichaelxcan anyone help me out on getting a broadcom wireless card working with ndiswrapper? i had the thing working well, but i had to reinstall, and now nothing i do is working06:11
xylusbrad please help me i would verrymuch apreciate it06:12
|brad|install superkaramba with adept06:12
OODxylus: the program that displays those widgets\gadgets is called superkaramba06:12
xylusok thats it?06:12
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xyluscan i use that on a debian system cuz im soon switching over to deb06:12
|brad|then it will show up in kmenu > utilities06:12
xylusrather than kubunto06:12
xylusok ill check out superkaramba06:13
|brad|then go to kde-look.org and download a theme or do it within karamba itself06:13
xylussudo apt-get install superkaramba?06:13
ironfroggyis the behavior of actually putting files and such inside a mountpoint consistant?06:13
|brad|xylus: yes sir06:13
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ironfroggyor will mounting and unmounting there suddenly cause all my files to just get scrapped.06:13
xylusthanks alot brad you say kde-look.org download a theme rite on much ablidged\06:14
|brad|not a prob man06:14
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orient2000what does it mean karamba? Is it maybe from spanish?06:27
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|brad|not likely spanish tho06:27
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ironfroggywhat happens if i disable swap but there isnt enough room in ram for everything?>06:33
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crimsunstuff gets killed.06:34
ironfroggyack06:35
ironfroggyis there a way to tell if there is enough room and disable swap if there is?06:36
ironfroggyor more preferably, to say "turn the swap off, but if you have any trouble, just dont mess with it!"06:36
ironfroggybecause im planning on enabling and disabling my swap frequently.06:36
|brad|not sure what the point of tha tis06:37
ironfroggyreducing battery usage06:37
ironfroggyplus experimenting with the use of USB keys as temporary swap devices06:38
xylusbrad06:38
xylusu still around bro?06:38
|brad|yea whats up06:38
xylusoh not much i just tryed to download a transparent theme from the website u gave me but i not sure how to install them06:39
ironfroggymy hope is that i can increase the length of my laptop's battery life by setting up some scripts to disable swap whenever im only running on battery power.06:39
xylusbut thats not realy my question06:39
xylusi was just curious that superprogram is that only for adding desktop applets like the cpu monitor and stuff?06:39
xylusor do i have to download them or make them06:39
|brad|open karamba and click "open local theme" and browse to the extracted archieve that you downloaded06:40
abattoirxylus: superprogram?06:40
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abattoiroh, you mean superkaramba... ok :)06:40
xylusi tryed apt-get superkaramba06:40
|brad|abattoir: superkaramb06:40
xylusbut it said something like this06:40
abattoir!info superkaramba06:40
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB06:40
abattoirxylus: it is in the universe repository, make sure you have enabled that06:41
xylusGo to Control Center06:41
xylusSelect "Appearance & Themes"06:41
xylusSelect "Splash Screen"06:41
xylusClick "Add..."06:41
xylusBrowse for the downloaded file06:41
xylusSelect the new Theme06:41
xylusRestart KDE06:41
xylusHave fun! :-)06:41
xylusFor questions check: http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/ksplashml/index.html06:41
abattoirxylus: those are for ksplash06:41
xylus06:41
xylus link06:41
xylusoops06:41
xyluswrong paste lmfao06:41
xylusnyways it says i have a dpkg problem06:41
xyluswhe ni try to apt get the file06:41
abattoirnot for superkaramba06:41
|brad|man that confused the hell outta me06:42
xylussorry i dont even know what a universe repository is lolz06:42
abattoir!universe06:42
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:42
xylus<---- total noob wants to pimp out desktop a bit lol06:42
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xylus!info superkaurmba06:42
ubotuPackage superkaurmba does not exist in dapper06:42
abattoirxylus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:42
xyluswhats a dapper?06:43
claydohhttp://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/219206:43
abattoirxylus: while you are at it, enable multiverse too06:43
xylusyes abattoir06:43
abattoirxylus: that is the code name of the latest stable version of ubuntu... Dapper Drake06:43
xylusaww allright i thought it was some l33t programming or something lol06:43
xylusdapper sounds l33t enuph to me06:44
xylushahaha06:44
|brad|haha06:44
xylusok anyway sorry to bother u guys all i realy wana know is what superkarumba is, does and where i can manualy download it pweese06:44
|brad|ugh this torrent is stuck at 99.9%06:44
abattoirSuperkaramba is a software which allows you to run small 'themes' on top of it, these themes are shown on your desktop...06:45
|brad|follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu and then install it with adept06:45
xyluslol im downloading torrents of the deb os i dont like kubuntu so much\06:45
|brad|kubuntu is real easy06:45
abattoir|brad|: azureus?06:45
xyluskk thanks :) ill figure it all out any dependencys i should know about06:45
|brad|i ran slackware for like 4 years kubuntu is real easy06:46
|brad|abattoir: no Ktorrent06:46
abattoir|brad|: oh ok, because i heard its a common problem w/ azureus :)06:46
timiwhat kind of file ends with -sh06:47
|brad|well this is the 2nd time tonight a torrent got stuck at 99% so maybe its a ktorrent prob too...06:47
|brad|shell script06:47
timiis that is used to install a program06:48
|brad|could be06:48
|brad|open it in a text editor and see what it does06:48
xylusherm cant do anything with the apt program due to allredy in use06:48
xyluswould that mean i should shut down my ktorrent?06:49
abattoirxylus: no, is adept running in the background?06:49
|brad|yea what he said06:49
xylusi dont think so06:49
|brad|sweet jesus its done!06:49
xyluslol06:50
abattoirxylus: are you using apt-get or adept/06:50
abattoir?06:50
xylusoh i see06:50
xylusi have a apt notification in my taskbar06:50
|brad|sounds like both at the same time06:50
xylusfrom when i installed everyprogram on the list lol06:50
|brad|oh snap06:50
xylusyeah i opened up apt and downloaded everything listed lolz06:50
xylusi got tired of thigns sayin i dident have dependencys06:51
xylusso i download it all06:51
xyluslol06:51
xyluslinux pisses me off alot but im still prety new at it06:51
xylusplus i like how u can do anything with linux whereas windows is just a gamestation lol06:51
xylustoo bad theirs zero games for linux unless your running a win em and those are retarded to get running06:51
xylusnyways thanks for all your help guys\06:52
HawkwindZero games ?06:52
xylusmeans no games for linux06:52
HawkwindThere happen to be MANY linux games06:52
xylusno good ones atleast06:52
xylusyeah but their all made with paint06:52
xylusand some atari graphics06:52
HawkwindGood is a matter of personal opinion06:52
xylusor 8 bit06:52
|brad|lol06:52
HawkwindNo they aren't06:52
xylushahaha nods..06:52
|brad|quake306:52
HawkwindQuake 4, quake 3 aren't made with that junk06:52
xyluswow theirs a winner brad06:52
xyluslol quake and how old is that pos?06:52
xyluslike 8 years or something06:53
HawkwindOk, so you're trolling06:53
|brad|you cant go wrong with quake man06:53
xyluslmfao06:53
xylusperhaps but it would be nice to be able to run some games that arnt more than 5 yrs old :)06:53
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HawkwindMaybe you should do a bit of reading then.  There are literally tons of games that work for Linux06:53
abattoirquake 4 is 5 yrs. old? :S06:53
xylusmaby i should take up programming and do soemthing about it lolz06:53
timihow do you cd to a directory06:53
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xylusyeah i know hawk06:54
Hawkwindtimi: cd /directory06:54
xylusbut like i said befor their all crappy games like jewl or tetris or pong or treasureisland06:54
xylusor 8 bit rpg's06:54
xyluslol06:54
xylusor somethign made with python06:54
xylusi seen a fiew good ones tho06:54
HawkwindThen it's obvious you have no clue what you're talking about06:54
xylushawk06:55
osirisquestion is......do i kill my 52 day uptime for kubuntu ?06:55
xylusname one decent game you can play on linux06:55
Hawkwindosiris: Yes06:55
xylusand ill take back everything06:55
osirisut2k406:55
xylus;)06:55
abattoirxylus: hmmm, python is a powerful OO language.. but hmm, i'm not getting involved into this troll-fest06:55
abattoirhmm hmmm06:55
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xylushahaha06:55
Hawkwindxylus: I don't game.  But there are tons and tons of games that are linux native.  Do some damn research and stop trolling06:55
osirisxylus, lot of em....ever use emulators06:55
xylustroll?06:55
xylusyeah06:55
xylusi mean without emulators06:55
xylustho06:56
|brad|oh man, this got ugly fast06:56
osiristhere are lots of good games that play on linux06:56
xyluslol06:56
osiris|brad|, nice name06:56
xylusosiris know any?06:56
timiwhen i do cd /home/timi it says its not a directory06:56
abattoirxylus: this is what dpkg has to say about trolls....06:56
abattoir<dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, troll is In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who posts rude or offensive messages on the Internet, such as in online discussion forums, to disrupt discussion or to upset its participants. "Troll" can also mean the message itself or be a verb meaning to post such messages. "Trolling" is also commonly used to describe the activity.06:56
Hawkwindtimi: Is timi your users name on the system ?06:56
timiyeah06:57
Hawkwindabattoir: Nice!06:57
xyluslol06:57
timiim trying to install a program06:57
|brad|osiris: what? huh?06:57
Hawkwindtimi: Maybe you are already in that directory ?06:57
abattoirHawkwind: heh, dpkg rocks :)06:57
osirisxylus, street figter 2, zelda 3, mario, sim city 3000, doom 3, ut2k4, quake 3, what do you want06:57
xylusi thanks for the lesson abattoir ill shuddap now XD06:57
timiim just in console and ti sjut is the regular console06:57
osiris|brad|, tis my proper name06:57
xyluslmfgdao doom quake streetfighter 2!!! hahaha omg06:57
xylusthose arnt games06:57
Hawkwindtimi: Then you're already in your users home directory06:58
Hawkwindtimi: Type:  pwd06:58
abattoirxylus: you could always go to #kubuntu-offtopic and troll all you want :P06:58
HawkwindIt will tell you Present Working Directory06:58
timiahh ok06:58
timithanks06:58
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Hawkwindabattoir: Until they get tired of him there and kick him out of there too :)06:58
abattoirHawkwind: hehe, maybe... :P06:58
xylussorry abattoir i just frustrated when people say theirs lots of games for linux and then they name off a buncha crap from like 5+ years ago lol06:58
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xylusi dont wana jamm something i played to death when i was 10 yrs old lol06:59
xylusnyways sorry about that06:59
xylusmy apologys06:59
xylusill take my leave now06:59
abattoirxylus: depends on your taste for eg. there is a game called Flight gear which is the best flight simulator game that i've ever seen06:59
osirisand Im a huge quake/UT fan07:00
timiso is desktop not a directory07:00
bobstroxylus:  there are games for linux, but i've never seen it described as the premiere game platform.07:00
osirisi HAVE all the linux gaming i need07:00
|brad|CS will run with wine07:00
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abattoirxylus: you must realise that people get irritated when you say linux has zero games and is retarded to work with :)07:00
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Hawkwindtimi: It's probably Desktop07:00
Hawkwindtimi: Remember, linux is case sensitive07:00
timio07:00
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|brad|especially in a linux channel07:01
abattoirxylus: ... when most people find it otherwise :P07:01
abattoirxylus: anyways, welcome to linux, we hope you enjoy your stay ;)07:02
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timito configure the directory do just add /configure07:02
|brad|mmmm beer is good07:02
abattoirhehe, good night Hawkwind :)07:02
timior is it space then ./configure07:02
Hawkwindtimi: No, ./configure07:02
timiok07:02
Hawkwindtimi: What are you trying to compile ?07:02
timikbootsplash07:02
Hawkwind!info kbootsplash07:02
ubotuPackage kbootsplash does not exist in dapper07:02
Hawkwind!info kbootsplash edgy07:02
ubotuPackage kbootsplash does not exist in edgy07:03
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xyluslol nono dont take me the wrong way abattoir i love linux blows windowz out the water and linux isent hard to work with its actualy not bad aside from all the confusion with software dependencys07:03
xylusall i said was that installing a emulator is a hastle and hard to work with07:03
xylusthe only downfall linux has is zero gameing cappabilitys07:04
abattoirxylus: ok, whatever, its best we end this discussion here, unless you want to continue at #kubuntu-offtopic :)07:04
|brad|oh man07:04
xylusaside from as you said many games like pong or tetris07:04
xylus;)07:04
xyluslol07:04
xylusoops07:04
xylustrolling again07:04
xylusi need to leave07:04
xylusbye07:04
abattoirhmmm07:04
OODi consider doom 3 and UT2004 to be a little more recent then pong or tetris07:05
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OODbut hey, that's just me07:05
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bobstroblame the publishers for not putting out linux versions. i'd buy 'em in a heartbeat, and spend the money saved on my OS on more games.07:05
|brad|has anyone ever got swat to work in kubuntu07:06
timido i need to sudo to "cd" something07:06
|brad|i did everything short of standing on my head yesterday07:06
timibecause when i didnt sudo it said permission denied to compile, then when i did sudo it said cd is not a comand07:06
osiristimi, depends on the permissions ofthe dir07:06
abattoirtimi: nope, 'cd directory' should do07:06
abattoirtimi: you dont need sudo for './configure' and 'make'07:07
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abattoirtimi: only 'sudo make install'07:07
osirisits a permission issue07:07
MilhousePunkRockGood morning everyone07:08
MilhousePunkRockHey abattoir07:08
abattoirhi MilhousePunkRock :)07:08
|brad|morning07:08
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: thanks, nice gift... :P07:08
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: tried installing those packages?07:09
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MilhousePunkRockHal is the newest version, and powersave most likely is there too, since it warned me about low battery state a little earlier07:09
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MilhousePunkRockSo I guess this time it's really something with the pathes07:10
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: what are you trying to compile?07:10
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MilhousePunkRockKpowersave 6.0207:10
timiit something ends in a .tar.gz can it not be a directory or fiel07:10
cpk2|away|brad|: i got swat to work (the samba thing i am guessing) but forgot how07:10
MilhousePunkRockNeeded tons of packages yesterday07:10
cpk2|away|brad|: you trying to just do a simple shared dir?07:10
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: isnt there a deb for it in the repos?07:11
abattoir!info kpowersave07:11
ubotukpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 3199 kB, installed size 4924 kB07:11
abattoiris there a great diff. b/w 0.6.0 and 0.6.2 ?07:11
timihow do i get permission to open a file i downloaded07:11
|brad|cpk2|away: yea the samba thing.... man what a pain in kubuntu07:11
|brad|i never did get it to work07:12
cpk2|away|brad|: one sec i have a link that should help you07:12
|brad|samba is up and working fine07:12
|brad|it was for a friends home network. he is new to linux and didnt impress him that i couldnt get it working. made me feel dumb too07:12
cpk2|away|brad|: than i why use swat? i got rid of swat after i set it up because it seemed pretty useless07:13
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timithis thing keeps denying me permission07:13
|brad|i loved swat. i thought it was real handy07:13
timido i ahve to close it first07:13
timior something07:13
|brad|but i was always messing with samba at home changing crap when i was a slackware user07:14
MilhousePunkRockWell, abattoir, I had 6.0... But since suspend/resume is not working, I thought it might make a difference...07:14
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmmm07:14
cpk2|awaytimi: tar.gz is a compressed file07:14
abattoir!info kpowersave edgy07:14
ubotukpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3199 kB, installed size 4924 kB07:14
MilhousePunkRockhey timi... got your wlan on startup by now?07:14
cpk2|awayyou need to untar it timi07:14
timinope milhouse07:15
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timiok how do un tar it07:15
cpk2|away!tar07:15
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)07:15
cpk2|away!untar07:15
ubotuI know nothing about untar - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:15
MilhousePunkRocktar <someoptions> /path/to/filename07:15
cpk2|awayi think its -xjf?07:15
cpk2|awayyou can add a v for verbose07:16
timimilhouse what does that mean07:16
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cpk2|awaytimi: type tar --help07:16
MilhousePunkRockI think that's how you untor something...07:16
timitar --help07:16
|brad|zxvf07:16
timiwell that didnt work, do i type it in console07:16
MilhousePunkRockthe -xjf cpk2|away said, or what |brad| said are the options07:17
cpk2|awayis it a gz?07:17
timitar.gz yeah07:17
|brad|tar -zxvf for a tar.gz and jxvf for a bz207:17
cpk2|awaythere ya go timi07:17
timiok07:18
cpk2|awaywhen you untar it it will create a directory07:18
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Any idea for the pathes?07:18
timiso a type in the name of the file then i type tar -zxvf07:18
cpk2|awaytimi its tar -zxvf filename07:18
timiok07:18
MilhousePunkRockDamn, everyone is faster than me this morning...07:19
cpk2|awayif you dont want it spitting a bunch of stuff back at you you can take out the v07:19
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmmm... cant find a deb for it at kde-apps?07:19
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i'll look into the 'paths' thing... wait a sec07:20
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: could you paste the entire configure run?07:21
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: There is a deb on kde-apps... But now that I installed to many *dev packages, I'd rather compile it myself... Is more educational for me07:21
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MilhousePunkRockyou mean config.log?07:21
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i'd expect the paths to be set by default, if it isnt... hmmm07:22
MilhousePunkRockto=so07:22
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: no, the entire ./configure output, you have given only a sni07:22
abattoir*snip07:22
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cpk2MilhousePunkRock: you dont want to start compliling things yourself... you start losing things and have random folders all over the place07:23
cpk2apt-get makes things so easy and clean07:23
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i'd strongly suggest looking at the deb... :)07:23
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MilhousePunkRockhttp://pastebin.ca/9928107:24
MilhousePunkRockI've been adding various dev packages yesterday for more than an hour to get this working...07:25
MilhousePunkRockI should have searched for the .deb in the first place... I wonder why it was not submitted to the kpowersave homepage, they only have .rpm there... And the source...07:25
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: something to do w/ pkg-config and *it's* path07:26
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: rpm for?07:26
MilhousePunkRockI'll take the .deb... But how do I get rid of everything that compiling created so far?07:26
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: it might be possible to use alien to convert it to a deb07:27
MilhousePunkRockkpowersave07:27
abattoirno, i mean, which distro?07:27
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: if you didnt do make install, then removing the folder should do...07:27
MilhousePunkRockOh, I would have to look that up... I guess there is no need to since there is a deb07:27
abattoiras for the dev packages, remove them through adept or 'sudo apt-get remove ... '07:27
abattoir!info alien07:28
ubotualien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB07:28
MilhousePunkRockThe don't hurt my system, do they? So I'd rather keep them, in case I once _need_ to compile something...07:28
MilhousePunkRockThey*07:28
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: of course :)07:28
abattoiri meant of course not07:28
cavalierwiski'm a total kde n00b, can anyone tell me how i get the home and computer icons to show up on the desktop?07:29
abattoirunless you are scarce for diskspace, running w/ just a few gigs of it07:29
MilhousePunkRockHow do I completely delete a directory on the shell?07:29
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: rm -rf nameofdir07:29
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MilhousePunkRockcavalierwisk: Did you look in Systemsettings --> Appearance --> Desktop --> Icons?07:30
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MilhousePunkRockBesides that, don't you have the system menu on the kicker?07:30
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bastiq!chmod07:30
ubotuI know nothing about chmod - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:30
abattoircavalierwisk: just drag and drop it from kicker / kmenu07:31
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bastiqwhere can i read what access i get on the diffrent security levels?07:31
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cavalierwiskah, ok, that worked thanks :)07:31
acadi want to know how the heck do i remaster (customize) the kubuntu 6.06 edition cd cause squash keeps segfaulting on me07:31
abattoirbastiq: google, maybe :P07:31
imbrandonbastiq: " man chmod "07:31
cpk2!chown07:32
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands07:32
bastiqman don't tell me07:32
cpk20777 is read write (maybe execute) for everyone07:32
bastiqi know07:33
bastiqbut i want them all. i'm trying to make a small custom guide that fit me better than all the help files everywhere07:33
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DaSkreechI knew I should have tried to figure this out before07:33
DaSkreechHow does the live CD install work?07:34
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DaSkreechIt copies an Image to the Hard Drive?07:34
abattoirDaSkreech: just like the normal text installer07:34
abattoirDaSkreech: it copies files and installs them i guess.. not familiar w/ the intricacies07:34
DaSkreechabattoir: ok. So the Live CD has both an image and the packages needed to install07:35
timianyone know how to change a bootsplash07:35
DaSkreechI was just reading up http://www.apcstart.com/site/dwarne/2006/07/773/inside-vistas-new-image-based-install07:35
abattoirDaSkreech: you mean the image which is extracted to create the livecd session?07:35
DaSkreechOn how Vista installs and it sounds remarkably like a Live CD install07:35
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abattoirDaSkreech: oh, i read that thing yesterday07:35
DaSkreechabattoir: Well Yes I know about that07:35
abattoirDaSkreech: yeah, i was thinking that too, but i think it is a bit different07:36
MilhousePunkRockIf I do "sudo dpkg-deb --install /Downloads/kpowersave_0.6.2-1_i386.deb" now, will it specify the appropriate target path itself, or just install where it is?07:36
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DaSkreechYeah something of it smacks of different to me ad I'm trying to put my finger on what07:36
abattoirDaSkreech: i think Vista handles it like an OEM installation, just extract the image onto the harddisk07:36
DaSkreechMaybe cause it works ;-)07:36
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noiesmoDaSkreech, hey07:37
abattoirwherease here you detect the h/w and stuff, and install appropriate packages07:37
DaSkreechabattoir: No I don't think so since it doesn't destroy what is there before07:37
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Yo07:37
_rince_mrgn07:37
DaSkreechlnxkde: Hey hey hey!07:37
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noiesmoDaSkreech, I see that xgl/compiz has cgwd as window decorator not gnome-window-decorator07:37
DaSkreechYeah07:37
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Did you see my question above?07:38
noiesmonoiesmo, I updated my system yesterday just as quinstorm annouced she'd updated cgwd adjusted my how to also07:38
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: no, missed it, let me read it07:39
MilhousePunkRocknoiesmo: Talking to yourself? ;-)07:39
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: go to the dir where the deb is and do 'sudo dpkg -i name.deb'07:39
noiesmoDaSkreech, so nvidia how to has cgwd in stead of gnome-window-decorator07:39
DaSkreechMilhousePunkRock: There are 232 people in here how is he talking to himself?07:39
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: else if you want to specify the full path, 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb'07:39
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noiesmoDaSkreech, just wondering that too :)07:40
MilhousePunkRockHe said his own name...07:40
noiesmoso i did07:40
noiesmoDaSkreech,  updated my system yesterday just as quinstorm annouced she'd updated cgwd adjusted my how to also07:40
DaSkreechSo he did07:40
noiesmolol07:40
abattoirhehe07:40
noiesmoaaahhhh07:40
DaSkreechThanks :)07:40
MilhousePunkRockthat's what I meant, no offense anyway...07:40
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, no taken man your right07:40
DaSkreech!xgl07:41
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:41
noiesmoI'm just so excited to be here07:41
MilhousePunkRockI think it's a good sign that I am still in the mood for jokes...07:41
DaSkreechHa ha :)07:41
DaSkreechnoiesmo: So I guess the ATI one would take a few days to update?07:41
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noiesmoDaSkreech, heres a screen with the theme applied well the compiz one http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/mediagallery/media.php?aid=1&f=1&s=007:42
noiesmoDaSkreech, which ati one the one my site or the one at compiz.net07:42
OOD!java07:42
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:42
timiwhat does it mean if there is no acceptable c compiler07:43
noiesmotimi, you need gcc more than likly07:43
DaSkreechtimi: It means you have no compiler07:43
timiwhen you try to compile something07:43
DaSkreechOr at least none that it likes :)07:43
DaSkreech!b-e > timi07:43
noiesmoDaSkreech, re ati howto are you talking about hte one at compiz.net man or what07:44
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Oh yours07:44
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josh__k07:45
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josh__i'm back07:45
josh__yet again07:45
josh__anyone need help>07:46
josh__actually i need help07:46
noiesmoDaSkreech, will sort it now just going to change and make note about cgwd at this stage k?07:46
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Purty! Did you do the Cute close buttons your self?07:46
josh__my sound options are set to 8 channels07:46
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Now I get dependency errors...07:46
josh__i only have 2 speakers so now there is no bass07:46
noiesmoDaSkreech, yeah not!07:46
noiesmoDaSkreech, now its part or gcompizthemer-theme package07:46
noiesmonow/no07:46
josh__is there a file somewhere or update to make it so that i can change it to 2 speakers?07:47
DaSkreechThats dead funny07:47
noiesmoDaSkreech, I'm using a mac osx theme at mo but thought I'd show the compiz theme in screeny07:47
josh__can anyone help?07:47
josh__it sounds really bad without bas07:48
josh__bass07:48
DaSkreechjosh__: I really don't recall but they might have speaker settings in the System settings07:48
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noiesmomaybe the cat bumped the cord josh__07:49
MilhousePunkRockabattoir passed out again I think... ;-)07:49
OODMilhousePunkRock: you're lucky, for some people it doesnt07:49
josh__no07:49
josh__its just set to 8ch07:49
MilhousePunkRockYeah, OOD, I've seen many people with sound issues...07:49
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josh__i'm guessing thats the problem07:50
josh__if not there is a bass problem07:50
MilhousePunkRockjosh__: Go out and buy a 7.1 speaker set... :-P07:50
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josh__so i guess it would be sound card issues07:50
josh__lmao that would be nice07:50
acadwhere would i get older versions of kubuntu?07:50
OODjosh__: you try to set it to less channels in KMix?07:50
josh__yes07:50
DaSkreechMilhousePunkRock: Get a 50 inch Monitor :-P07:50
josh__thats where i discovered the problem07:50
DaSkreechacad: Same place you get the new ones07:51
MilhousePunkRockDaSkreech: That wouldn't be very handy for a laptop...07:51
DaSkreechJust don't Torrent them ;)07:51
DaSkreechMilhousePunkRock: Just add water!!07:51
OODlol07:51
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MilhousePunkRockWhat's wrong with torrenting the iso's?07:51
josh__i was very confused when i had powdered water because i didn't know what to add07:51
noiesmoDaSkreech, hey this new cgwd means no more gnome dependencies hoooray07:51
acadDaSkreech i only 5.10 and 6.06, is 6.06 the only final version?07:52
DaSkreechjosh__: rofl!07:52
josh__lol07:52
josh__had to add some comedy at 2 in the morning07:52
DaSkreechacad: Sorry what do you mean?07:52
josh__i'm trying to do a project07:52
josh__i haven't used windows in days07:52
DaSkreechWith Sound I'm guessing07:52
josh__i mainly use it for gaming07:52
josh__but i'd like to listen to music in linux07:53
josh__WITH BASS!!!07:53
acadDaSkreech sorry, i ment to say i only see two versions from the official site, that is 5.10 and 6.06.. nothing else.07:53
MilhousePunkRocksame here, josh__ If it wasn't for my gaming addiction I would get Linux on my desktop too07:53
noiesmoDaSkreech, ati how to updated with cgwd info07:53
DaSkreechacad: Ok what would you like? I think the first version was 4.1007:53
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Schweet!07:53
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josh__my first attempt at suicide was when i jumped off a building, then i was sucked into a portal that layed me in my bed a day earlier, then i woke up and felt like killing myself07:53
MilhousePunkRockHoary, Breezy and Dapper are the full version IIRC07:54
acadDaSkreech i think i want 6.04 assuming it is a stable version07:54
DaSkreechMilhousePunkRock: Forgot Warty07:54
DaSkreechacad: It is07:54
noiesmojosh__, ok install alsamixer and check the setting thru it it might help you it might not won't hurt07:54
DaSkreechacad: That's the new release you said you wanted old ones?07:55
acadDaSkreech, do you know where i can get 6.04 then?07:55
acadDaSkreech i don't want 6.06.  i want 6.04.07:55
DaSkreechacad: 6.04 = 6.0607:55
MilhousePunkRockWhat are the names based on anyway? I know some debian code names come from that one animated movie whose name I just can't recall...07:55
DaSkreechIt's the same one. It got delayed two months07:55
josh__wow this is retarded07:55
acadDaSkreech i don't understand that. why would they give two version numbers to the same thing?07:56
josh__adept won't open07:56
josh__i type in the password and nothing happens07:56
DaSkreechMilhousePunkRock: sabdfl's morning breakfast :)07:56
DaSkreechacad: The numbers are the year and month it came out07:56
DaSkreech6.04 was delayed by two months07:56
DaSkreechSo it's 6.0607:56
acadDaSkreech ok- so they differ slightly?07:57
DaSkreechNext year we will return to your regularly scheduled month07:57
MilhousePunkRockSo is the testing version (edgy etch?) called like that 'cause it's bleeding edge right now?07:57
josh__wow thats so stupid!07:57
DaSkreechacad: Well 6.04 is considered "near" stable07:57
OODjosh__: adpet might already be running07:57
MilhousePunkRockjosh__: Fresh installation?07:57
acadDaSkreech that is what i thought, anyway to get it?07:58
OODsudo killall adept07:58
OODthen try again07:58
josh__is there a command i can use to install alsamixer?07:58
MilhousePunkRockacad: What's wrong with 6.06 for you?07:58
DaSkreechacad: You would have to choose a day and grab a nightly. They didn't have a freeze as far as I know07:58
draik!repositories07:58
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:58
josh__yeah maybe its already running.07:58
josh__how would i kill the process07:58
DaSkreechacad: Though  you could get the last flight CD07:58
josh__thats usually what happens in windows07:59
MilhousePunkRockwhat OOD said, josh__07:59
DaSkreechMilhousePunkRock: Yup07:59
josh__yeah07:59
josh__how do i find it07:59
josh__cuz there is nothing in the taskbar07:59
OODjosh__: do sudo killall in terminal07:59
MilhousePunkRocklol... you need to open a console07:59
OODsudo killall adept*07:59
acadDaSkreech yes, the squash somethen or other segments and since the md5sum matchs i suspect it has to do with 6.06 as 6.04 works (according to someone else) when I remaster (i am modifying the cd)08:00
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MilhousePunkRockThere is not someone in here that can deal with a _german_ error message?08:00
josh__ya08:00
josh__apparently its already in use by something08:00
josh__i did have an update fail earlier08:00
josh__i was trying to install jave08:00
DaSkreechacad: Err ... Huh?08:00
josh__java08:00
DaSkreechacad: You are remastering an old CD?08:01
cpk2sun java?08:01
acadDaSkreech i'd rather remaster 6.06 but i can't because squash does a segmentation fault08:01
acadDaSkreech actually, i can probably remaster 6.06 with a 6.04 cd08:01
josh__ok08:01
DaSkreechWhen?08:01
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josh__alsa mixer is installed08:02
cpk2josh__: that was a question were you trying to install sun java?08:02
MilhousePunkRocklol noiesmo... You mean "nein"...08:02
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, aahhh08:02
acadDaSkreech i'm not even sure that is the problem, but i'm basing it on elimination..  i check the md5sums, free disk space, free ram, etc08:02
josh__yeah i was trying to install java08:02
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josh__but its 32 bit and i'm running amd6408:02
cpk2josh__: have you looked at the wiki at all?08:03
MilhousePunkRockI could still post it and try to translate it... It's about dependencies...08:03
cpk2!sun-java08:03
ubotuI know nothing about sun-java - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:03
cpk2!java08:03
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository08:03
acadDaSkreech i just realized something, i should reburn the ISO, i didn't check it and have probably scratched it..  wow- i feel stupid08:03
bimberi_draik: hello?08:03
DaSkreechacad: :)08:03
acadDaSkreech although i was mounting the ISO, the squash was running from cd08:04
draikhello bimberi08:04
acadDaSkeech could cause my problem, particulerly cause I didn't check this cd and have been careless with it08:04
bimberi_draik: i was just about to respond to you in #ubuntu-doc ;)08:04
DaSkreech;-)08:04
acadDaSkeech i bet it won't solve the problem..  thanks anyway08:04
draiksorry, I closed the wrong tab08:04
draikI'm going back08:04
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josh__ok08:05
josh__how do u send files in kopete08:05
timianyone know how to change their bootsplash08:05
noiesmotimi, yeh chceck out the menu.1st in /boot/grub/ there should be a ref for bootsplash just before kernel lists and there should be a older in /boot/grub/splashblah08:06
noiesmotimi, it should say splashimage08:07
josh__ok08:08
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josh__jesus08:08
josh__i need to sleep08:08
timinot there08:08
timiis ther a prgm08:08
timii tried to compile kbootsplash but i guess it doesnt work for kubuntu08:09
MilhousePunkRockhttp://pastebin.ca/9930508:09
noiesmotimi, ok sudo apt-get install grub-splashimages08:10
timialright08:10
MilhousePunkRocknoiesmo: ^^08:10
timialright i got it08:11
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noiesmotimi, I take it youv'e got the stock kubutu splash its only the grub one08:11
timiyeah, and i changed my splash screen and kdm so i wanted the matching bootsplash08:11
timiwhere do i open the grub splashimages08:11
timido i just run it08:12
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, hey I can't read greman dude I was just muching around before sorry but it looks like there are conflicts08:12
MilhousePunkRocklet me guess, noiesmo... No chance I can get those packages from adept?08:12
timihe noiesmo i cant find what i just installed08:12
timiwhere is it08:12
noiesmotimi, eh chceck out the menu.1st in /boot/grub/ there should be a ref for bootsplash just before kernel lists and there should be a older in /boot/grub/splashimages08:12
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noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, what it means is that another package or app is dependant on some of the things you already have08:13
timisweet i c it08:13
timibut i dont know how i choose one/ set as default08:14
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, and it would break your system if apt installed whats need for the new app you want08:14
noiesmotimi, open /boot/grub/menu.1st there should be a line like08:14
timiok i did08:15
noiesmosplashimage=(h0,2)/boot/grub/splashimages/blah.xpm.gz08:15
MilhousePunkRocknoiesmo: Any chance compiling it myself will work? That was what I tried before I discovered the .deb package08:16
Dodger_so, i'm trying to get the printing server configured - when i do that via the control panel, it asks me for a username and password for the printing system08:16
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, it might compile but you may need some dev packages to do that08:16
Dodger_none of mine work, so is there a default i should use?08:16
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, what's the name of the app again08:17
MilhousePunkRocknoiesmo: I installed tons of dev packages for it yesterday...08:17
cpk2noiesmo: i just catted my menu.lst and didnt see a line that had splashimage=08:17
timinoeismo am i to edit a line that looks like that or just add it08:17
timi^^^08:17
MilhousePunkRockKpowersave 0.6.208:17
noiesmotimi cpk2  my grub has it if yours does not you can add it08:18
noiesmotimi, cpk2 it goes after the line in grub that reads08:18
MilhousePunkRocktimi: If you saw the stock kubuntu splash, there most likely is a line like that already08:18
cpk2noiesmo: i am assuming it goes after "end of default options"08:18
noiesmotimi, cpk2 ## ## End Default Options ## ##08:18
timiok so we add it after end efeault options08:19
noiesmotimi, cpk2 add in splashimage=(h0,2)/boot/grub/splashimages/blah.xpm.gz replace h0,2 and the blah bit with the appropriate thing08:19
cpk2noiesmo: where should i insert it just at the bottom of it is ok? it looks like order might matter08:19
noiesmotimi, cpk2 ## ## End Default Options ## ## after this line just before your first title08:19
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Ademan_what ports does samba use?08:22
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ironfroggyis there anyway to have my laptop's wifi light controlled to light up when the wifi card is turned on?08:23
MilhousePunkRockthis is a pretty geeky splash: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2688808:23
MilhousePunkRockironfroggy: Shouldn't that work by default?08:23
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ironfroggyi thought it would, but it doesnt.08:23
ironfroggyall those LEDs are programmable i suppose, so there is just no hardwired connection between it and the wifi card.08:24
noiesmo135-139 445 Ademan08:25
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DaSkreechNight guys08:25
MilhousePunkRockironfroggy: So you mean the Laptop's lights, like for Caos-Lock? Sorry, I over-read that08:25
MilhousePunkRockCU DaSkreech08:25
MilhousePunkRockCaps-Lock*08:25
ironfroggyyes, the light on my laptop. what did you think i meant?08:25
MilhousePunkRockThe lights on your card (if it was an external one, Carbus for example)08:25
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MilhousePunkRockIsn't that one always one when the card is activated?08:26
MilhousePunkRockThe internal one08:26
ironfroggyits not on the card directly. its above the laptop keyboard and the wifi chipset is internal.08:26
ironfroggylike i said, almost surely isnt even a connection between them in hardware, so i suppose the drivers are expected to control the LED.08:27
ironfroggyi havent seen the light outside of windows.08:27
cpk2noiesmo: gonna see if the splash screen works now08:28
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noiesmocpk2, ok08:28
MilhousePunkRockironfroggy: On my girlfriend's Laptop (mine doesn't have internal wifi) the light is always on if the card is activated, never flashing when it's receiving etc08:29
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MilhousePunkRocknoiesmo: That's where I ended up when I tried compiling it, before abattoir said there might be a .deb http://pastebin.ca/9928108:29
ironfroggyMilhousePunkRock: yes thats how mine was until i started using kubuntu on it.08:30
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hi, kpowersave works?08:30
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, ah ok abattoir no08:30
abattoirtimi: didnt i already give you that link?08:30
abattoiror was it someone else? :S08:30
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: The deb depends on very new packages...08:30
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: kde 3.5.3?08:31
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Yes08:31
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: I wanted to go back to compiling it myself now...08:31
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmmm... tried converting the rpm w/ alien08:31
ironfroggyive been digging all over for this, but i cant find anything.. is there some way to configure certain remote mounted files to be available when the machine is offline?08:32
MilhousePunkRockAlthough I wonder if it will work if the deb needs very new packages...08:32
noiesmowhy not add repo for kde 3.5.3 and update kde then install kpowersave08:32
ironfroggyi want to basically sync certain files into local caches, and for them to be available at the same location when the remote share is not available.08:32
MilhousePunkRocknoiesmo: I updated to KDE 3.5.3 a while ago08:32
timiabbatoir i dont think so08:33
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: then you should be able to install08:33
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Ademannoiesmo: tcp or udp?08:33
noiesmorepo for kde 3.5.3   deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu dapper main08:33
ironfroggyare there any solutions for this available, or am i looking for something crazy?08:33
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: That's what the deb gave told me --> http://pastebin.ca/9930508:34
noiesmoAdeman, dam not sure of top I just opened firestarter and added rule for samba and thats the ports08:34
Ademanlol oh, thanks though08:34
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock,  repo for kde 3.5.3   deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu dapper main08:34
noiesmoAdeman, yes lol :)08:34
cpk2noiesmo: should i edit out quiet splash from kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash08:35
noiesmoAdeman, firestarters great little iptables app08:35
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hmm, it doesn depend on newer packages...08:35
noiesmocpk2, no but I think the splassh you want to change is not the one I thought you wanted to change08:35
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: did you try converting the rpm to deb?08:35
MilhousePunkRocknot yet, abattoir08:35
noiesmocpk2 want really https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto08:35
Healot!alien08:36
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: maybe 'alien' can be of help08:36
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).08:36
abattoir!info alien08:36
ubotualien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB08:36
MilhousePunkRock"but it's quite dangerous" hmmm...08:37
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Isn't compiling it myself preferable over using an rpm package?08:38
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noiesmohmm kpowersave will install for me running dapper kde 3.5.3 with apt-get upgrade from yesterday08:39
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noiesmoabattoir, don't think i'd be using rpm unless absolutly last resort no?08:39
timihow do i create an xpm.gz08:40
abattoirnoiesmo: he has all the necessary packages for compiling installed, but pkg-config still complains08:40
abattoirnoiesmo: eg. it wants hal installed, he's got hal installed, but it still complains08:40
wolfmanzabattoir got a new amd kernal loading up this should get some spraks flying lol08:40
cpk2MilhousePunkRock: probably but rpm will resolve depencies for you08:41
noiesmoabattoir, yes i know doesnt that indicat another packages holding on to some other packages that kpowersave needs and thats why he get s conflict though08:41
abattoirnoiesmo: i suspect it has something to do w/ pkg-builder(or whatever)'s path08:42
noiesmoabattoir, if that makes sense08:42
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abattoirnoiesmo: but tbh, i've used alien successfully... havent had a single problem till now08:42
wolfmanzWhen you install a new kernal should you remove the old ones through adept or just leave them?08:43
MilhousePunkRockapt-get upgrade tells me, there are unresolved dependencies08:43
noiesmoMilhousePunkRock, try sudo apt-get --fix-missing08:43
abattoirwolfmanz: you can remove them if you want, but make sure grub is also update08:43
MilhousePunkRockKpowersave was partially installed it seems08:43
abattoir*updated08:43
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?08:44
noiesmoor ^^^^^^^^^08:44
wolfmanzhow do you do that?08:44
noiesmowolfmanz, up to you08:44
abattoirwolfmanz: does grub boot you into your new kernel?08:44
MilhousePunkRocki did that, abattoir, now kpowersave was removed08:44
noiesmowolfmanz, i remove my old ones once i'm happy with new one08:44
abattoirare there entries for the new kernel in grub?08:44
wolfmanzno id ea i havent restarted yet :D08:44
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i guess that is the partially installed kpowersave, not the old one08:44
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noiesmowolfmanz, reboot make sure alls good then you can use adapt to remove old kernels08:45
MilhousePunkRocki removed the old one yesterday already, before i started compiling the new one08:45
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: ok, then that's good08:45
wolfmanzwhats the command to see what kernal is in use?08:45
noiesmouname -a08:45
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noiesmouname -r08:45
MilhousePunkRockwill any of the -f options you mentioned here give me the packages that the new kpowersave is missing?08:45
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MilhousePunkRockAfter I fail to install the deb again, of course...08:46
wolfmanzif i dont come back you know why lol keep a eye out for unbuntu_ lol08:46
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: that resolves dependencies and installs/removes conflicting packages08:46
nubsterhello everyone.....can anyone gimme a hand with my problem....sont seem to have libqt3-mt in my system and i cant find it in synaptic pkg manager08:46
noiesmonubster, open a konsole and type08:46
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: wait, let me test the rpm out for you08:46
abattoirgimme link if you can08:46
noiesmonubster, sudo apt-cache search libqt3-mt08:47
MilhousePunkRockOne second, abattoir08:47
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noiesmonubster, see whats returned then do sudo apt-get install libqt3-mtblah08:47
nubsterwhat do u mean...there isnt a plain libqt3-mt?08:47
nubstercuz really i am trying to istall opera but the dependency isnt satisfied because appearnt dont have that lib08:48
noiesmonubster, not sure of top but thats what I'd try if i cant find the package08:48
noiesmonubster, also maybe its your repo there is a package called libqt3-mt08:49
timiis kbfx integrated or is a package i need to download08:49
abattoir!info libqt3-mt08:49
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=124576&package_id=16243908:49
ubotulibqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In repository main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3078 kB, installed size 8728 kB08:49
abattoirnubster: ^^^^08:49
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MilhousePunkRockabattoir: But I think in the end it was only a path problem when compiling...08:49
schmakkwhy is it that apps started with kdesu uses a really small font?08:49
nubsteri cant find just libqt3-mt i have libqt3-mt-mysql and others08:49
nubsterdoes it make a diff?08:49
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abattoirguys, sorry, i have to go now08:50
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i dont know, try exporting the PATH08:50
abattoirnubster: there is plain libqt3-mt see what ubotu posted above08:50
abattoirbye08:51
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noiesmoabattoir, bye08:51
timii just installed kbfx from adept08:51
timibut i cant find it anywhere08:51
wolfmanzwell the lord didnt takeith away that time so thats good lol08:52
noiesmonubster, yes it will make a dif maybe add another repo to your sources list maybe the server you have doesnt have it for some reason08:52
nubsterwell it's not showing up on mine08:52
noiesmowolfmanz, hey your back ne kernel08:52
nubsteri see everything but that08:52
noiesmonubster, it is on mine can give you my aussie repo08:52
nubster?08:53
wolfmanznoiesmo ya that install went without any issues08:53
noiesmonubster, deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse08:53
noiesmowolfmanz, nice08:54
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: How do I do that`08:54
MilhousePunkRock?08:54
farousnubster: goto packages.ubuntu.com and locate which repos have the package you want08:55
farousnubster: it will be listed under kde08:55
nubsterthanks i will try that08:55
ironfroggyis it ok to remove the kubuntu-desktop meta-package?08:57
Hobbseeironfroggy: yes08:57
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ironfroggywont remove kde or anything, right?08:57
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Hobbseeironfroggy: no, but you'll need it again when you want to upgrade tothe next release08:58
farousironfroggy: if you did not install kubuntu-desktop using aptitude it will not remove kde08:58
ironfroggyits only being removed because i removed one of the packages it installed (akregator). would aptitude have removed it in that case?08:59
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farousironfroggy: no09:00
farousironfroggy: i mean it will not remove kde if that is your question.09:00
ironfroggyok09:00
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ironfroggyis there a better feed reader than that to replace it with?09:02
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MilhousePunkRockHow can I specify a target path on untaring?09:03
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aegeanlinuxtar -xvf ?09:04
aegeanlinuxtar -xvf {file}09:04
aegeanlinuxtar -xvf {file} -C /this/is/the/path ;)09:05
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aegeanlinuxsoz, should read better next time ;)09:05
Healotminus the "-"09:05
aegeanlinuxthe - is optional Healot ;) I like it because it shows its and option09:06
aegeanlinuxjust personal {insert word meaning "thing"}09:06
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timihow does kbfx work09:08
MilhousePunkRockThx aegeanlinux09:08
aegeanlinuxtimi: right click on kicker and say add panel09:09
MilhousePunkRockWill that keep the read/write permissions from the archive?09:09
aegeanlinuxMilhousePunkRock: It's all good ;)09:09
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aegeanlinuxMilhousePunkRock: it might , don't quote me09:09
timii dont see it there, i got it using adept09:09
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Dodger_i've got a problem going through my proxy09:10
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Dodger_seems like the settings i set in the control panel don't work - i have to manually export the http_proxy environment variable every new session09:11
Dodger_has anyone else ever seen this before?09:11
noipmixamyea somehow09:12
MilhousePunkRockHow do I check which version of a package I have?09:12
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aegeanlinuxsomething to do with dpkg09:13
helpplzhow can I get sound to work in quake3?09:13
aegeanlinuxtype "man dpkg" to09:13
aegeanlinuxsee how to do it09:13
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: apt-cache show foo09:13
aegeanlinux(or with adapt)09:13
aegeanlinuxHobbsee: TY ;)09:13
Hobbseeaegeanlinux: :)09:14
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MilhousePunkRockSo it seems powersaved is too old to compile Kpowersave09:16
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HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: yeah....09:16
Hobbseeyou'd need to compile both09:16
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MilhousePunkRockWhat about using a .deb for powersave?09:18
MilhousePunkRock+d09:18
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MilhousePunkRockIs there a way to determine what version of powersaved is in the edgy repos?09:20
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: unlikely to work.  what do you want out of the new kpowersave?09:20
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HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: sure, apt-cache show powersaved09:20
MilhousePunkRockhmmm, that shows me 0.12.15, i need .18 for the newest Kpowersave09:22
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MilhousePunkRockNeither mouse nor keyboard work when I resume from Suspend to RAM, I am desperately trying to fix that for a few days, with help from here and google...09:22
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MilhousePunkRockI thought upgrading KPowersave might help, Hobbsee09:23
crimsundo we need a newer powersaved?09:23
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: ahh.  upgrading powersaved might help, or upgrading your kernel.09:24
Hobbseecrimsun: it's on the list of stuff to do for edgy, yeah09:24
crimsunHobbsee: is it lock-stepped, or should we push it in today?09:24
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Hobbseecrimsun: huh?09:24
MilhousePunkRockOK, I shall try to upgrade powersaved than...09:25
Hobbseecrimsun: i have a version, and a version of kpowersave (source), but the two dont play nicely09:25
crimsunHobbsee: meaning is there a hard sequence order...ok.09:25
MilhousePunkRockOnce that is done though, I can use the newest K8e anyway09:25
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MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: powersaved from source or using a deb?09:26
Hobbseecrimsun: meaning you have to have a high enough level of powersaved to use kpowersave, yeah, if that's what you mean09:26
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: source09:26
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DeshWould overclocking a laptop athlon 64 be a bad idea?09:26
MilhousePunkRockWhich can be found at sourceforge I assume?09:26
crimsunHobbsee: hmm, ok. I see Debian only has 0.12.20-1 of src:powersave; I presume that's insufficient?09:26
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Hobbseecrimsun: i really dont know - that's what i merged in - and debian has the latest kpowersave too.09:27
MilhousePunkRockcrimsun: That's the newest...09:29
crimsunright.09:30
MilhousePunkRockWe have .1509:30
crimsunI'm new to KDE, so I don't have the latest versions memorised yet09:30
MilhousePunkRockThe newest K8e (0.6.2) requires .1809:30
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crimsunMilhousePunkRock: presuming 0.12.18, correct?09:30
MilhousePunkRockyeah, crimsun09:31
crimsunall right, Hobbsee, ball's in your court09:31
crimsunif you need me to help test, let me know in the next 20 mins or so09:31
Hobbseecrimsun: huh?  oh dear.09:32
Hobbseecrimsun: it's in lure's court, really :P09:32
crimsunoh, ok.09:32
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: oh.  the old kpowersave doesnt work with the new powersaved, fyi09:32
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MilhousePunkRockI am hoping I can use the new Kpo.. once I compiled the new pow...09:33
MilhousePunkRockBy the way, since people always mention new kernels to solve my suspend/resume problem... Is there an advantage to use a 686 kernel instead of a 386?09:34
MilhousePunkRockOn a Pentium 3 Mobile...09:34
crimsunfor smp/ht/*core support, perhaps09:35
MilhousePunkRockht as in hyperthreading? don't have that... *core as in core duo? same.. what's smp?09:36
MilhousePunkRocksupport multiple processors?09:37
crimsunyes09:37
crimsunto all.09:37
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MilhousePunkRockOne thing before I compile powersave: Someone suggested using "--prefix=/usr/local/" when running ./configure09:38
MilhousePunkRockWhat does that do?09:38
crimsunit should default to /usr/local09:38
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MilhousePunkRockSo it won't hurt to use that?09:39
korielhi all, I'm having problems with my nvidia driver...I did a full upgrade using adept and now every time I use glx my system logs me out to the login screen, something like restarting X I think09:40
crimsunMilhousePunkRock: nope.09:40
Healotif you're thinking not to mix self-compiled packages with the stock packages, MilfhousePunkRock09:40
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korielin the syslog I got something about gconfd09:42
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korielso my question is how can I setup kubuntu to boot from console and not the gui09:42
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MilhousePunkRockIt's missing "dbus-glib-1!09:43
MilhousePunkRock!="09:43
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ubotuI know nothing about =" - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:43
MilhousePunkRocklol09:43
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Healotlol MilfhousePunkRock09:44
marcus__Just wondering how I can add folders to public_html and have them be visible on the web.09:44
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noipmixamanyway I can setup konqueror09:45
cpk2marcus__: apache defaults to /var/www/ you can add folders to that or link them to that and you can access them via your domain09:45
helpplzif I use alsa and quake I heared uses oss.. is that why I get no sound in quake?09:46
noipmixamor any web browser09:46
MistaEDMilhousePunkRock, the 686 kernel, if it's anything like the k7 one, will probably enable power save and possibly that suspend/resume solution, also what video chip do you have and what driver?09:46
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MilhousePunkRockS3 SuperSavage09:47
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Healotinstall apache? add path directive, bind apache to your internet ip address, (re)start apache, bam09:47
MilhousePunkRockIt's not a video problem... Trackpoint and keyboard are dead after resume, though I can restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace09:47
MistaEDMilhousePunkRock, ok if it was an nvidia i would say to enable nvagp instead of agpgart09:48
MistaEDah09:48
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MilhousePunkRockSuspending and resuming worked fine on Windows though *ducksandcovers*09:48
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noipmixamfigure09:49
MistaEDMilhousePunkRock, i'm sure it did with all of its undivided third party support attention ;) hmm, are the keyboard and mouse issues solved when you restart X?09:49
noipmixamseems like your last updates prenvent me from installing any win os09:50
marcus__cpk2: I enabled user directories, yet any directory I place in it is not recognized by apache. How would i go about linking the directories to my home directory?09:50
MilhousePunkRockyes, MistaED, but that starts a new session, of course09:50
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noipmixamsysinfo09:51
noipmixamSysinfo for 'MixAM-toplap': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz at 997 MHz (1997 bogomips), , RAM: 236/1002MB, 85 proc's, 14.8min up09:51
cotrolerHello, I got a problem. I installed nvidia drivers and now when i boot linux I just get a black screen :(09:52
cpk2marcus_: linking the dirs to /var/www/ is just so you dont have to move that dir09:52
wolfmanzHow do i tell what video drivers i'm using ?09:52
MilhousePunkRockWhere can I possibly get the dbus-glib I need to compile powersave?09:52
cpk2marcus_: have you tried putting files/dirs in /var/www/ ?09:52
MilhousePunkRocksysinfo09:52
MilhousePunkRockHow did you do that, noipmixam?09:53
cotrolerHello, I got a problem. I installed nvidia drivers and now when i boot linux I just get a black screen :(09:53
marcus__cpk2: not yet, it might just be easier to put the directories there. I'll give it a try.09:53
noipmixamwhat09:53
cpk2sysinfo09:53
noipmixam"/sysinfo09:53
MilhousePunkRockThat sysinfo... Did you paste it?09:53
MilhousePunkRockSysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 732 MHz (1466 bogomips), , RAM: 246/249MB, 80 proc's, 3.2h up09:54
MilhousePunkRocknice09:54
cpk2guess gaim doesnt support that =\09:54
noipmixamQt: 3.3.609:54
noipmixamKDE: 3.5.209:54
noipmixamkde-config: 1.009:54
krautmoin09:54
MilhousePunkRockGood morning, kraut09:54
noipmixamalmost considered like flooding09:55
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: Where can I possibly get that dbus-glib thingy I need for powersave?09:55
cotrolerHello, I got a problem. I installed nvidia drivers and now when i boot linux I just get a black screen :( any help pls??09:56
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: debian or ubuntu?09:56
Hobbseeprobably debian09:56
MilhousePunkRockKubuntu09:56
MilhousePunkRockHow did you do that now, noipmixam09:57
wolfmanzHow do i tell what video drivers i'm using ?09:57
noipmixamhmmm09:57
noipmixam"/qurl09:57
noipmixam"/weather09:58
MilhousePunkRocklol09:58
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noipmixamjust wondering how I can take back control of my laptop10:00
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krautmoin moin MilhousePunkRock10:02
marcus__is it possible to play mkv files in linux?10:02
MilhousePunkRockkraut: This is the international (thus english) channel... German channel is #kubuntu-de10:02
noipmixamRandom Fortune: One of the things that hamper Linux's climb to world domination is the shortage of bad Computer Role Playing Games, or CRaPGs. No operating system can be considered respectable without one. -- Brian O'Donnell, odonnllb@tcd.ie10:03
noipmixambla bla bla10:03
cpk2ummm ok?10:04
MilhousePunkRockComputers are not toys for everyone, noipmixam10:04
noipmixamwell ... I wish10:04
noipmixambut this laptop is a toy for that dev team since they have control over it10:05
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noipmixamremove that VESA stuff and I might use it well10:07
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MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: I think now I am exploring regions that will trash my whole system...10:08
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: heh, well....no, you can always dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kpowersaveandpowersaved.deb 's10:09
MilhousePunkRockpowersave was missing dbus-glib-1, dbus-glib-1 was missing dbus-1, dbus-1 has been replaced with dbus10:10
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: take all those packages from debian then, i expect10:11
MilhousePunkRockSo if I now get a package for dbus-1, I'm sure it will have conflicts with dbus...10:11
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Healot!info dbus10:13
ubotudbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.60-6ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 316 kB, installed size 700 kB10:13
MilhousePunkRockYeah, Hobbsee, it won't install, says it collides with dbus10:14
Hobbsee!info dbus edgy10:14
ubotudbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.62-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 323 kB, installed size 708 kB10:14
Hobbsee!info dbus-1 edgy10:14
ubotuPackage dbus-1 does not exist in edgy10:14
Hobbseehum, okay.  i never tried it with dapper10:14
Hobbsee!info dbus-glib10:15
ubotuPackage dbus-glib does not exist in dapper10:15
Hobbsee!info dbus-glib edgy10:15
ubotuPackage dbus-glib does not exist in edgy10:15
Hobbsee!info dbus-glib-1 edgy10:15
ubotuPackage dbus-glib-1 does not exist in edgy10:15
Hobbseehmm10:15
Hobbsee!search dbus10:15
ubotuFound nothing10:15
Hobbsee!search dbus edgy10:15
ubotuFound nothing10:15
Hobbsee!search kde10:15
ubotuFound: desktops, latest kde, code, appsy, tar, koffice, kde, burners, apt, usplash (and 27 more)10:15
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Hobbseeah10:15
MilhousePunkRockLooks like when I am done I'll have a semi-Debian system... If it ever works...10:15
MilhousePunkRockAm I right to assume that removing dbus and installing dbus-1 will get me in trouble?10:16
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HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: no idea.  but i would get a backup of /home before you play too much :P10:17
=== Hobbsee has a separate partition for this stuff - and doesnt really care if she fubar's her system anyway
cotroleri got this error guys any help? EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found)10:17
MilhousePunkRockNothing really important in /home10:17
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: only msot of your settigns10:18
MilhousePunkRockAh, ok...10:18
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Hobbsee:)10:20
Hobbseemake sur eyou grab the hidden files from there too10:20
MilhousePunkRockYeah, they are probably why I thought there was nothing important in there...10:20
farousMilhousePunkRock: whynot just add a new user and login using the new user account10:21
Hobbseefarous: not for testing out *powersave stuff10:22
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farousHobbsee: for doing adminstrative stuff i thought :)10:22
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Hobbseefarous: well, yeah, but if you're making changes to the entire system in terms of packages - its' hardly recommended :P10:23
francescociao10:23
farousyah i understand now why he need the backup did not see the previous posts before :)10:23
Hobbseefarous: :)10:24
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ironfroggydoes anyone know if there are plans for future versions of OpenOffice to be hardware accelerated?10:24
MilhousePunkRockI just figured that my /home is twice the size of my thumbdrive10:25
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MilhousePunkRockSo how brutally can e.g. ark compress stuff? 50%  ? ;-)10:27
MilhousePunkRockMaybe it's a good moment now to see if my 250 GB external HDD will work in Kubuntu...10:28
cpk2MilhousePunkRock: i have am runnung kubuntu off a 400 gig HDD10:29
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: hehe!  yes, my /home doesnt fit on my usb stick either - but i do development stuff there, and have two chroots there, so...10:29
cpk2external10:29
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: how's stuff going? what are you upto now? :P10:30
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Be glad you weren't there... I am about to do really risky business here...10:30
abattoirwhy? what are you going to do?10:31
MilhousePunkRockreplacing dbus-1 with dbus10:31
abattoirand how do you know i dont take joy in others screwing up their systems :P ?10:31
wolfmanzhe is a windows user he likes to screw with linux people lol10:31
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Hobbseeabattoir: he's lookign at getting the new *powersave* stuff on edgy10:32
MilhousePunkRockFAT32 shouldn't a prob for Linux, right?10:32
abattoirHobbsee: last i checked it has the same version as in dapper10:32
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: no10:32
abattoiroh powersave, though kpowersave10:32
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Hobbseeabattoir: that's cos lure/myself havent merged it yet.10:32
Hobbseeabattoir: applies to both of them10:33
abattoirHobbsee: oh, so he's your guinea pig today :P10:33
Hobbseeabattoir: nope...he's figuring that out himself.10:33
Hobbseeabattoir: my version's on revu, but it doesnt seem to wrok10:33
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: no, it shouldnt10:33
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: it would be a pity if after all this trouble you find out that resume still doesnt work :(10:34
MilhousePunkRockWow, true plug and play...10:34
user-landHello, what do you use for FTP in Kubuntu ?10:34
abattoiruser-land: kbear10:34
MilhousePunkRockSo how do I backup my _entire_ /home now?10:34
user-landthanks, abattoir.10:34
abattoiruser-land: :)10:34
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3508710:34
MilhousePunkRockShh, abattoir... Don't speak out my biggest fear...10:34
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: which one is that?10:35
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: dont very, i dont think replacing dbus would make that much of a difference... but that's only me :)10:35
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abattoirHobbsee: keep isnt in dapper right?10:36
abattoir!info keep10:36
Hobbseeabattoir: check apt-cache rdepends dbus10:36
ubotukeep: backup system for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 202 kB, installed size 832 kB10:36
Hobbsee!info keep dapper10:36
ubotukeep: backup system for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 202 kB, installed size 832 kB10:36
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Hobbseeabattoir: looks to be10:36
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Replacing dbus is only the beginning, which is needed for dbus-glib, which is needed for powersave, which is needed for KPowersave10:36
noipmixamanyway I know who did started it ... but when I'd be fed up ... just watch ur ass10:37
abattoirHobbsee: mostly gnomestuff :P10:37
MilhousePunkRockIt's there in my KMenu in System...10:37
Hobbseeabattoir: hehe10:37
abattoirapart from powersave and hal ofcourse :)10:37
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abattoirkubuntu-desktop depends on it though10:38
abattoirwonder why...10:38
helpplzhow can I use ALSA wrapper for oss apps? I dont even know what to download10:38
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Hobbseeabattoir: dbus and hal?  yeah, of course it does.10:39
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abattoirhmm, kubuntu-desktop->hal->dbus i guess10:40
MilhousePunkRockSo should I try keep or go with the guide you showed me, Hobbsee?10:41
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: whcih giude?10:41
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MilhousePunkRockhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3508710:41
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user-landabattoir, kbear has some interface problems ... :-) anyway do you know where i can disable passive transfers ?10:42
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abattoiruser-land: i havent used it extensively... maybe the manual could help?10:43
hardw1remorning10:43
MilhousePunkRockHello Peter10:43
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hardw1re=)10:44
hardw1reSANE patching is a pane in the ass10:44
abattoirok, guys have to sleep, my brain is not working properly atm, MilhousePunkRock, hope you get it solved by the time i wake up...10:44
abattoirhardw1re: still doesnt work? :(10:44
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: also did you try alien?10:44
hardw1rewell the patching of SANE isnt working right10:44
MilhousePunkRockIf you are going for a week long hibernation, abattoir... ;-)10:44
Hobbseeabattoir: alien is evil10:44
abattoirHobbsee: hehe, it has never failed me10:45
hardw1reim using the hp3900 patch but its not patching right, and then the configure, make, make install isnt working right10:45
abattoirHobbsee: unless you use a Suse rpm10:45
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i can test the rpm for you if you want10:45
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: give me the link to the page, if you can10:46
hardw1repastebin10:46
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i'll make the deb and test it10:46
hardw1re!pastebin10:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:46
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: One moment...10:46
hardw1rei'll run the patch, configure, make and make install and paste into the pb10:46
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MilhousePunkRockabattoir: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=124576&package_id=16243910:46
MilhousePunkRockBack to backing up my /home10:47
MilhousePunkRockIf I add the folder to keep, will it save hidden files too?10:47
MeTa[AwAy] __hi all10:50
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aegeanlinuxHi [META] 10:51
[META] i want to install liblircclient0 but it needs libc6 3.6.3-6 but only 3.6.3-0 installable10:51
aegeanlinuxHow's it going ?10:51
aegeanlinuxdang/10:51
aegeanlinux* .10:51
[META] how can i workaround it?10:51
[META] i'm annoyed why i need infrared control libraries if i not need it ...10:52
[META] but i want install mplayers10:52
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aegeanlinuxbuild them yourself ?10:53
[META] how?10:53
[META] i'm not a linux guru10:53
[META] is there a howto?10:53
[META] or anything?10:53
MilhousePunkRockLooks like keep is backing up my /home to external hdd now10:53
aegeanlinux!compile10:53
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:54
aegeanlinux!make10:54
[META] no10:54
[META] i'm not thinked about this10:54
[META] i want it from repo10:54
[META] with the fireox plugins10:54
aegeanlinuxkk10:54
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farous[META] : looks like you need dist-upgrade do you have mixed repos10:55
[META] i have dapper10:55
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: If I screw the system, letting keep restore /home from the backup will get it back close to what it is now?10:56
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MilhousePunkRockwb abattoir10:57
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: yeah, you'll need to install the packages you want again10:57
yelekanyone know how to get a theme manager for kde (for switching .kth files) help much appreciated!10:58
farous[META] : let me understand what you want again you want mplayer right10:58
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: thanks :)10:58
MilhousePunkRockI did not install much, I removed more from the default kubuntu10:58
yelekby any chance....10:58
abattoirbrb10:59
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MilhousePunkRockkeep really needs a progress bar...11:00
vontuxso, vlc player.... who has installed it on their ubuntu machines?11:00
hardw1rei got VLC media player11:01
hardw1reand Mplayer11:01
vontuxhardw1re: via apt-get?11:01
hardw1reyeah11:01
hardw1rei think it was grabbed as a dependency11:01
hardw1rewhen i was trying to install my logitech webcam11:01
vontuxwhat repository did you get it from in your sources.list file?11:01
hardw1reno idea11:02
vontuxhow long ago did you install it?11:02
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MilhousePunkRock!kpowersave edgy11:02
ubotuI know nothing about kpowersave edgy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:02
hardw1reits in the universe repos11:02
hardw1rewell i only install kubunutu on friday11:02
vontuxhmmm...I think I have the same repositories list...but I can't seem to get it to work11:03
farousvontux: packages.ubuntu.com search for it there11:03
Hobbsee!info kpowersave edgy11:03
ubotukpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3199 kB, installed size 4924 kB11:03
MilhousePunkRock!info kpowersave edgy11:03
MilhousePunkRocklol Hobbsee11:03
farousvontux: if you have main universe and multiverse repos enabled you will def have vlc11:03
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vontuxfarous: ok, thx, I'll try that, if a repository server has gone down, how do I tell11:03
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: :P  it's the same as dapper, afaik, as i havent upgraded it yet11:03
farouswhy is it that the boot do not report which repos hold the package when using the find command11:04
MilhousePunkRockYeah, seems so...11:04
farousvontux: have no idea11:04
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farousvontux: only way i can do it through pinging11:04
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Healot(P)acket (In)ternet (G)ropher 'ing?11:06
farousMilhousePunkRock: you have 2GB of hidden files? do you ever clean up your browser cache11:06
MilhousePunkRockfarous: Not hidden files, the complete /home is that big...11:06
farousHealot: my way of making a verb out of it :)11:06
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farousah ok :)11:06
MilhousePunkRockIncludes some downloads I wouldn't really need to back up though...11:07
MilhousePunkRockThe Kubuntu6.06.iso for example...11:07
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yelekanyone know how to get a theme manager for kde (for switching .kth files) help much appreciated!11:07
MilhousePunkRockyelek: I think you can do that in the settings --> appearance11:08
farousMilhousePunkRock: i have 3 GB documents folder which have only text files and some figs11:09
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farousso i understand but for hidden files was just strange11:09
hardw1rewb abattoir11:09
MilhousePunkRockare you a professional writer, farous?11:09
abattoirhardw1re: hehe thanks :)11:09
farouskind of a univ prof lol11:09
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abattoirkonversation is screwing KDE.... :(11:09
MilhousePunkRocknice...11:10
MilhousePunkRock^^ farous, not abattoir11:10
farous:)11:10
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hehe, i got it dont worry :)11:10
MilhousePunkRockwhat field, farous?11:10
farousmech eng11:10
hardw1reok, im suppose to patch something with this hp3900.diff file... but the readme doesnt say wat to patch...11:11
MilhousePunkRockUgh...11:11
yelekno MilhousePunkRock, there is no theme selector, as far as I can tell...11:11
vontuxvlc player, yep just had to uncomment the universe lines in my repository file11:11
hardw1re4- Copy the patch into sane-backends-1.0.17 directory:11:11
hardw1re5- Apply the patch:11:11
MilhousePunkRockI think the term "theme" is not really apropriate for KDE anyway, yelek... Since there are win decos, buttons, etc11:11
hardw1rei run the command and i get this : File to patch:11:11
yelekwell the file is .kth, ktheme11:12
faroushardw1re: that is the source file you want to patch11:12
hardw1rein backend/ ?11:12
MilhousePunkRockwhat happens if you double click on it, yelek?11:12
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yelekit doesnt open11:13
MilhousePunkRockOr does right-clicking give you the option "apply theme" maybe?11:13
=== farous remember that patch had a prob and did not work though :(
yelekfor instance in another distro I had a theme selector a part of the KDE control center11:13
MilhousePunkRockany progress on alien, abattoir?11:13
farousyelek: did you open kcontrol11:13
yelekyeh I dont see anything for switching themes though11:14
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farousyelek: it is in the theme manager if i remember correctly11:14
hardw1rehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1884811:15
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hardw1reah the gits, i know whats going wrong11:16
yelekah i see now, its crashing for some reason11:16
hardw1rewho ever wrote the patch was thinking that sane is at version 1.0.18 when it is infact at version 1.0.1711:16
yelekit says it cannot connect to X11:16
faroushardw1re: might be you are using the wrong patch11:17
hardw1renah11:17
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: konversation crashed the last time i downloaded it, am downloading again11:17
MilhousePunkRockIs there any way to see the progress of a keep action?11:18
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: keep action?11:18
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: oh, you mean the backup app...11:18
MilhousePunkRockyes, abattoir11:18
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: my brain has stopped working completely :(11:18
hardw1reok, ive worked it out i think, its just me being a complete and utter tit and not getting the right sane pack lol11:19
MilhousePunkRockweren't you planning to go to bed earlier anyway, abattoir?11:19
cotrolerEE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?11:19
hardw1rehe knew i was about ;p11:19
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: well, i'll get the deb done for you first :)11:19
MilhousePunkRockThat's very nice of you indeed!11:19
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farousMilhousePunkRock: if you are going to do regular backups i would recommend you have a look at rsync11:19
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: ok, the deb's come out fine... now to see if it works :)11:20
cotrolerAny help?????? EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?11:20
MilhousePunkRockfarous: Well, I am still in the progress of setting everything up properly, once that is done, I will add "regular maintenance stuff" like that...11:20
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: installs fine... now to see if it runs ;)11:21
MilhousePunkRockThe external hdd I use to back up my home now is usually connected to my desktop though, farous11:21
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: what is it supposed to do? go to the systemtray?11:21
farousok take care all got to concentrate on wht is on my hand11:21
MilhousePunkRockyeah11:21
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farousMilhousePunkRock: you can do that if you have net connection11:22
MilhousePunkRockYou too, farous, CU11:22
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MilhousePunkRockis it there? should be an icon similar to klaptop (or was it kbattery), abattoir11:23
RawSewageis there a way to connect to a server a la putty using the Konsole11:23
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HawkwindRawSewage: ssh -l <user> <host>11:23
hardw1rehow do i uninstall sane if i've installed it manually?11:24
cotrolerAny help?????? EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?11:24
RawSewageHawkwind, cool thx11:24
Hawkwindhardw1re: make uninstall if you compiled it, or delete all the directories/files it created11:24
MilhousePunkRockhardw1re: sudo apt-get remove sane ??11:24
koshHawkwind: you can also do ssh user@server11:24
RawSewageok11:24
Hawkwindkosh: Yep.  Linux is all about choice :P11:24
koshHawkwind: just wanted to say that one incase you don't know11:25
hardw1rePackage sane is not installed, so not removed11:25
koshHawkwind: the reason I like user@server  is that is standard for a lot of protocols11:25
hardw1rei installed sane manually and not through apt11:25
Hawkwindhardw1re: make uninstall if you compiled it, or delete all the directories/files it created11:25
vontuxI have a number of partitons on my machine that I am not able to access, when I attempt to open them, they won't mount11:27
vontuxhere is the error message I get:11:27
vontuxerror: device /dev/sda3 is not removable11:27
vontuxerror: could not execute pmount11:27
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: it works for me...11:28
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i needed to install powersaved though, i presume you have it11:29
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: Is it OK that the keep backup has about 700 files less than the original /home folder?11:29
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HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: did you forget the hidden files, by any chance?11:29
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Unless I removed it in the meantime, I should have it, yeah11:29
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MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: I checked "show hidden" in the keep options, that should have done it, or not?11:30
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: should have11:30
Hobbseei'm not sure - based on that i cant see what the missing files are11:30
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: so...? you want the deb?11:32
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hardw1reok, is this anything to worry about? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1884911:33
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MilhousePunkRockLooking into the backup directory in Konq shows me all those .folders, so I guess it's fine...11:33
MilhousePunkRockabattoir: Can we send files here?11:33
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: yes, DCC11:33
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: ah right11:34
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: you do understand that the risks right? :P11:34
chemajawhich browser to use when konqueror doesn't render properly? i'm guessing you all use firefox, right?11:34
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MilhousePunkRockIsn't it less risky than replacing files very deeply in the system?11:34
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: hehe, so take your pick :)11:34
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Hobbseehardw1re: it fully bailed on you, or did it keep compiling?11:34
MilhousePunkRockOpera is probably worth a try too, chemaja11:35
hardw1reit compiled all the way through11:35
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hardw1rei just ran it a second time so then i didnt have all the crap in between11:35
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: identified w/ nickserv?11:35
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MilhousePunkRockyes abattoir11:35
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: i'll PM you11:35
Hawkwindhardw1re: I'm curious as to why you are compiling sane ?11:35
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hardw1rei have a HP 4070 usb scanner11:36
hardw1reso sane has to be patched with the hp3900 patch to get it to work11:36
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larson9999is there a esddsp package for ubuntu?11:37
hardw1rehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1885011:37
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larson9999or esd?11:38
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Hawkwind!info esd11:39
ubotuPackage esd does not exist in dapper11:39
Hawkwind!info esd edgy11:39
ubotuPackage esd does not exist in edgy11:39
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hardw1rehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1885211:40
larson9999Hawkwind: up early or late?11:41
Hawkwindlarson9999: Woke up for a few.  About to go back to bed as it's only 4:41am here11:41
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larson9999same here11:41
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Healot!find esd11:46
ubotuFound: gstreamer0.10-esd, kdesdk-doc-html, kdesdk-scripts, libesd-alsa0, libesd0-dev (and 18 others)11:46
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aegeanlinux!find google11:47
ubotuFound: libnet-google-perl, riece-google11:47
larson9999healot and hawkwind the reason i asked is i found a sight saying to run something via esddsp program-name.  but i don't have esddsp installed.  and i found another site saying ubuntu uses esd by default.11:48
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Healotalsa bd11:49
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abattoirMilhousePunkRock: it works :D11:51
MilhousePunkRockNice, abattoir!11:51
abattoirgot d/c though.. i guess sleep doesnt sustain your internet connection :(11:51
MilhousePunkRockThat's perfectly normal, abattoir11:52
[META] how can i fix dependency problems?11:53
Healotwith packages, or with compilation?11:54
chemajaeek what happened to my desktop icons? i press Save in the KDE Menu Editor, clicked away (instead of watching Saving Configuration thingo) and now they're gone...11:54
Healotwith the repos, "sudo apt-get -f install"11:54
chemajaright click doesn't give a menu. is there some process i have to run that my have died?11:54
[META] Healot: i have screwed up the libc611:54
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[META] i need liblircclient , but it needs 3.6.3-6>= libc611:55
[META] i installed libc 3.6.3-15 from debian org11:55
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[META] it needs tzdata (dpkg said) i get tzdata fromd ebian.org, but it have an error while i insatll it, it said the dependencyes wrong (because the libc6 installation is not successfull)11:56
[META] what dpkg cmd repairs the dependency problems?11:56
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cotrolerEE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) ANY HELP PLS?????????11:59
MilhousePunkRockCross your fingers everyone, I am trying to suspend with the new KPowersave now!11:59
[META] :)11:59
hardw1rewell im off for now12:00
HealotMilfhousePunkRock, good luck12:00
MilhousePunkRockThat needs some tweaking I guess... Won't let me with USB devices connected...12:00
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MilhousePunkRockDamn, why can't ark open 7z files?12:01
aegeanlinuxIt can12:03
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aegeanlinuxinstall p7zip12:03
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Healotwhy not install everything under the ice?12:05
MilhousePunkRocki did that last week and removed it again when I found out that it's only CLI and not GUI12:05
MilhousePunkRockWill it link into ark automagically?12:05
Healotark will use all the available compression programs under your ice12:06
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MilhousePunkRockyeah, it worked...12:08
MilhousePunkRockBut I forgot to backup that one thing I was looking for back when I killed windows on this laptop... :-(12:08
MilhousePunkRockIs someone AOL user by accident?12:09
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MilhousePunkRocksame sh*t different version number...12:14
MilhousePunkRockHow likely will a new kernel let me use my trackpoint and keyboard after resume from suspend to ram?12:15
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BazziRis it really a kernel problem?12:15
BazziRtried reloading the module?12:15
MilhousePunkRockI wish I knew, BazziR12:15
MilhousePunkRockThat's probably something I would have to add to sleep.sh?12:16
BazziReventually12:16
BazziRbut don't ask me further at kernel things, I'm well known for bricking linux installs ;)12:17
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MilhousePunkRockWhat would the command for reloading the modules for the input devices be?12:19
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: modprobe -r module && modprobe module?12:19
Hobbseesudo in front, of course12:19
buzsheesh is it normal that editing a page on the ubuntu wiki takes 30s without any response?12:19
MilhousePunkRockLet me try to locate the sleep.sh first12:19
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: sorry, dozed off... I see that it didnt work... however remember you werent using the latest powersaved... i dont know if using that would change it...but...12:21
abattoirugh, where did the rest of the message go ? :-\12:22
MetaMorfoziS!java12:22
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:22
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: and yes, i am to your east.. what time did it show? 8/9 PM ?12:23
MilhousePunkRockWhat about adding "modprobe -r module" to the sleep.sh and "modprobe module" to resume.sh12:24
MilhousePunkRock4.30something PM12:24
abattoirMilhousePunkRock: aah, ok, not sure, worth giving it a try12:24
abattoirok, see you later, bye12:25
MilhousePunkRockCU abattoir, thx for your help again!12:25
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MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: You said sudo in front, but aren't those shell-scripts above root anyway?12:25
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: huh?12:25
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cotroleri opened xorg.conf and it ws empty in recovery mode.....any help pls??12:30
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MilhousePunkRockI wish I would understand that shell scripting language...12:32
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larson9999MilhousePunkRock: read a tutorial.  not hard at all12:32
MilhousePunkRockcotroler: do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:33
mikalsenhow to list up all servers in Konversation? all noob on kubuntu12:33
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cotrolertnx MilhousePunkRock12:34
MilhousePunkRocklarson9999: You get how that works? Because maybe than you could hava a look at the acpi scripts and tell me where to put in the apropriate command to resume mouse and keyboard12:34
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larson9999MilhousePunkRock: can't now.  off to work12:36
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Stardoghow to list up all servers in Konversation? all noob on kubuntu12:36
omeowStardog, where do you expect that list to be?12:36
MilhousePunkRockStardog: F212:37
omeowYes, but I think he's looking for a list of all IRC servers. And that list exists nowhere, as far as I know.12:37
omeowYou can only have predefined servers in the server list.12:38
MilhousePunkRockGoogle might be very helpful, as in most cases12:38
omeowKonversation comes with only one by default I think.12:38
omeowThat's one that connects to this server.12:38
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MilhousePunkRockStardog: Are you sure you are looking for servers, or is it channels?12:38
omeowThe channel list is Window => Channel list for $server (F5)12:39
Stardogomeow:  well, I'm only familiar to Xchat, and the serverlist (like quakenet etc) automaticly opens at startup. When i start up konversation, i have to add servers manually in,(and as a noob i cant do that)12:39
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omeowStardog, why can't you add a server?12:40
Stardogomeow: cause i dont know how to..... and the only server i've got on my list is freenode12:40
omeowClick New => Type a name (ie. Quakenet) add a server (ie. irc.quakenet.org) and add a channel (ie. #leethax0rs)12:40
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: Is it possible that it does not _unload_ the modules when going to sleep, therefor reloading them on resume doesn't work?12:41
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omeowYou can read can't you?12:41
omeow:)12:41
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omeowIf you're still stuck, press F112:41
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MilhousePunkRockshouldn't that channel be called #1337|-|4X0|25 omeow? ;-)12:42
omeowNo.12:42
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Ace2005_It says the Nick Ace2005 is in use because i was logged in and i reset my router so how do i tell freenode that i am Ace2005, it won't let me change my nick12:44
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Ace2005_Ace2005:  >:12:44
Ace2005_ping12:45
ubuntupong12:45
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omeowDid you figure it out, Stardog?12:45
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Stardogomeow: yeah... thx12:45
MilhousePunkRockAce2005: If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>12:45
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Ace2005_MilhousePunkRock: as you can see there are two Ace2005s in the list, both being me, but Ace2005 is me before i reset my router and its still here12:46
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Jh00hmmm just testing kubuntu... nice package! I liked it more than ubuntu...12:46
MilhousePunkRockYeah, even better, isnt it, Ace200612:46
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zblachAce2006: happy new year12:47
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Ace2006zblach: thanks12:47
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zblach...12:47
Ace2007I want to get it for next year12:47
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omeowStardog, feel free to ask anything else and I'll try to answer best I can. ;)12:48
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MilhousePunkRockWho is familiar with those ACPI scripts?12:49
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Stardogomeow: kk :)12:52
Acecan someone tell me which characters are accepted in nicks, i keep getting [Nick]  Erroneous Nickname12:52
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Jh00anyone from Brazil? I need help setting up my keyboard layout12:53
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AceYay i'm gone12:54
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Jazon_laphi everyone12:57
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MilhousePunkRockWhat are things written in green and starting with a $ in .sh scripts?12:57
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Jazon_lapanyone be able to help me activate powermanagement on my laptop? it is non-existent in kde, but is there in gnome12:57
Jazon_lap:s12:57
Ace2008Hi how do i get konversation to register me when i connect to freenode?12:58
MilhousePunkRockStand in line, Jazon_lap... I am having huge trouble with it too!12:58
Jazon_laplol12:58
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Jazon_lapi know it works with kde because it was working with kanotix......12:58
MilhousePunkRockAPM or ACPI?12:58
Jh00Ace: press F812:58
Jack12hi12:59
Ace2008Jh00: Do i just type the password there?12:59
Jack12i want to install a superkaramba theme but when i download it just opens the binary file with kate12:59
Ace2008Jh00: and what goes in the service box?12:59
Jack12saving it would result in a corrupt file12:59
Jack12how do i download that liquid qeather theme?01:00
Jazon_lapMilhousePunkRock: acpi (afaik)01:00
MilhousePunkRockJack12: You need superkaramba first01:00
Jh00right click on the text "Service" and read whats there... I cant paste it01:00
Jack12<MilhousePunkRock>i have it latest version01:01
MilhousePunkRockJazon_lap: It's kinda buggy... I am already getting gray hair over it01:01
Jazon_lapits not working period here......01:01
Jazon_lapnot an option at all...01:01
MilhousePunkRockdo you have powersaved?01:01
Jack12<MilhousePunkRock>powersaved?01:02
MilhousePunkRock!powersaved01:02
ubotuI know nothing about powersaved - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:02
MilhousePunkRock!info powersaved01:02
ubotupowersaved: power management daemon. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.12.15-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 376 kB, installed size 1852 kB01:02
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MilhousePunkRockdo "sudo apt-get install powersaved"01:03
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Ace2005Ace2008: On no not again01:03
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there?01:04
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Tallia1Kubuntusomebody can explain me why the mount table tells me that i have rw privileges but i can't modify the name of the folder in it?01:05
Tallia1Kubuntuhere an example: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/opaOFi50.html01:05
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Ace1test01:06
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muteeooe01:07
Tallia1Kubuntu?01:07
muteI have a problem with the keybord01:07
mutethat it doesnt work01:07
Tallia1Kubuntumute: use #test01:08
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muteand it only works again when I delete the folder .kde in the home directory01:08
taavihi01:08
taavii have a problem01:08
Tallia1Kubuntumute: check the shortcuts01:09
aegeanlinuxSo do I, but I keep it secret ;)01:09
Jazon_lapDevice power management has been disabled by administrator.01:09
Tallia1Kubuntumaybe you gave some kde shortcuts missetted01:09
Jazon_laphow do i ENable it??????01:09
taavii cant watch avi files...01:09
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aegeanlinuxwhat type of AVI files? Uncompressed ones, DivX ones, XviD ones?01:10
taaviany01:10
mariuxget mplayer and w32codecs for a special resp.01:11
taavidone01:11
Healot!mp301:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:11
taavionly avidemux shows them01:11
mariuxmplayer doesnt?01:11
taavino01:11
taavionly sound01:11
taavivideo is black screen01:12
muteyou need the decoder for that video01:12
taaviokei...01:12
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taavihow do i get xvid decoder01:12
mariuxi thought it was included in w32codecs01:13
mutewith the command file will said the codec you have01:13
muteor with tcprobe - i01:13
muteif you have transcode tools01:13
taavii try...01:13
MilhousePunkRockWhat was the command to display Kernel Number, KDE Version etc. again?01:14
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MilhousePunkRockSysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 732 MHz (1466 bogomips), , RAM: 247/249MB, 81 proc's, 6.23h up01:14
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MilhousePunkRockCan I run a 2.6.17 patch against the 2.6.15 kernel?01:15
Healotyes, with incremental patch01:16
uniqmilhousepunkrock: it will probably not apply cleanly.01:18
MilhousePunkRockI am looking at suspend2 right now.. Their lates release is: 2.2.7 for 2.6.1701:18
MilhousePunkRockSo I better take the latest for 2.6.15?01:18
uniqyes.01:18
MilhousePunkRockAnd I will probably have to do it again everytime the Kernel gets upgraded?01:19
MilhousePunkRockuniq: You know that you just volunteered to help me apply the patch, do you?01:20
MilhousePunkRockOr is it just the regular configure make make install routine?01:21
berkeshello, I just tried the kde/kcontrol samba administration tool, but that seems to have a bug in kubuntu.01:23
berkesanyone else with the problem taht he/she cannot add users?01:23
uniqmilhousepunkrock: i bet there are some guide on the page where you downloaded the patch. I do not have time to help you right now, sorry.01:24
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MetaMorfoziS!java01:27
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MilhousePunkRockDo I need to be scared to apply a kernel patch?01:28
MilhousePunkRockIf so, I'd rather not...01:28
Tm_T?01:29
Healotye afraid, be very afraid, MilfhousePunkRock01:29
MilhousePunkRockIf it goes wrong, I can still use the recovery option from GRUB, right?01:29
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MilhousePunkRockThanks for discouraging me, Healot01:30
Healotyou asked for it :-01:30
MilhousePunkRockSo did you forget the /sarcasm tag? Or is it really something a noob better keeps his hands off?01:31
cotrolerppl i got this problem any 1 had the same? http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8010/snapshot1io3.png01:32
aegeanlinuxcotroler: Is that your screen, or an image error ?01:32
cotrolermy screen01:32
aegeanlinuxcotroler: that's interesting ;)01:32
cotrolerit gets like thaat01:32
aegeanlinuxNo, I don't really get that.01:32
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gatekeepercotroler: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:33
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MilhousePunkRockThe HowTo for Suspend2 says I need to compile my kernel prior to patching... Is that necessary?01:34
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cotrolertnx gatekeeper01:35
cotrolerbut i just installed linux now01:35
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gatekeepercotroler: hmmm that should not happen, only time I had that problem was with elivecd01:36
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cotroleri reinstalled linux (on a different cd)01:37
gatekeepercotroler: this may be usefull (or may be not) sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall01:37
cotrolertnx01:37
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gatekeepercotroler: did you test the cd?01:38
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gatekeepercotroler: latest dapper cd has an option to test that the cd is ok01:39
cotroleri have 5.10 version01:39
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Jazon_lapSysinfo for 'arkygeek-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor         1.40GHz at 1396 MHz (2797 bogomips), HD: 15/36GB, RAM: 1236/1256MB, 118 proc's, 4.6d up01:42
gatekeepercotroler: that is breezy, latest is dapper 6.0601:42
cotroleryes but i need to solve this image problem first i think01:42
MilhousePunkRockaegeanlinux, gatekeeper, Hobbsee and everyone else: The Suspend2 HowTo says I need to compile the kernel prior to patching, is that really necessary?01:43
gatekeepercotroler: probable true :-)01:43
cotroler:/01:43
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cotroler:'(01:44
gatekeepercotroler: you could download the dapper cd which is also a livecd, if it fires up ok, and X is alright then it should install ok01:45
supernix Hi does anyone know much about modems ?01:45
gatekeepercotroler: might be a better plan01:45
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mariux__peope still use those? :)01:45
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cotrolercan i do anything else apart that?01:45
gatekeeperMilhousePunkRock: never done it, but if that is what the advice is, I would follow it01:46
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gatekeepercotroler: apart from trying to reconfigure X using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg nothing comes to mind01:47
MilhousePunkRockLooks like I got myself a task for tomorrow...01:48
gatekeepercotroler: have you got broadband?01:48
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gatekeeperMilhousePunkRock: why are you trying to recompile the kernel?01:50
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MilhousePunkRockI am having trouble with Suspending/Resuming... Google brought me to "Suspend2"01:51
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_cotrolerbk sry got disconnected01:51
MilhousePunkRockIt seems to be a kernel patch, to apply it I need to recompile... As far as I understand it, which is not much anyway...01:52
r4z\Jani've a problem with my irda device "unable to allocate dma=3" i found in /proc/dma that 3 is already used by parport0 how can i change dma's ?01:53
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user-landHello again. I tried to add a few old harddisks to my computer now, but grub threw errors 15 and 17 consistently.01:56
user-landso i removed the other harddisks, but now my dual monitor setup does not work anymore, instead i am stuck with 1024x800 instead of 1200 pixel ...01:57
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user-landhow can i check if i am still using the nvidia driver and how can i reenable dual head ?01:58
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MilhousePunkRockI might be lucky and someone else created a kubuntu dapper kernel with suspend2 in it already...02:00
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cotrolerbk...sry got disconneced02:06
MilhousePunkRockAre the kernels the same for ubuntu and kubuntu?02:07
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MilhousePunkRocksuspend2 kubuntu02:07
MilhousePunkRockopps02:07
MilhousePunkRockoops*02:07
MilhousePunkRockhttp://www.ucc.asn.au/~dagobah/ubuntu-suspend2/dapper/02:08
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MilhousePunkRockSeems like there are various kernels with Suspend2 in them there...02:08
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aegeanlinuxMilhousePunkRock: Yes, its necessary to compile kernel for Suspend202:17
aegeanlinuxMilhousePunkRock: Soz about the lateness, watching the bill ;)02:17
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MilhousePunkRockThx, aegeanlinux... Seems I found a site that has ubuntu-kernels with suspend to in them...02:18
MilhousePunkRockhttp://www.ucc.asn.au/~dagobah/ubuntu-suspend2/dapper/02:18
aegeanlinuxKK.02:18
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aegeanlinuxOnly looking through the lines that were red sozzy ; )02:18
MilhousePunkRockIs it safe to try one of them (the apropriate one, of course)02:19
aegeanlinuxI can't say that for sure02:19
aegeanlinuxdo you trust the source 100%02:19
aegeanlinuxespecially for a kernel02:19
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MilhousePunkRockHow does this whole kernel thing work anyway, since I have never recompiled one so far, it won't touch KDE etc, will it?02:20
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Healotno, it shall not02:20
aegeanlinuxNo, it will not. The kernel is the bit of Linux that does memory, and all the processes and the multi tasking02:20
aegeanlinuxbasicly, with out the Kernel, there would be no bash running, or KDE ;)02:20
aegeanlinuxThe name "Linux" basically means "The Kernel" (www.kernel.org_02:21
aegeanlinux* www.kernel.org02:21
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aegeanlinux(not litrally though ;) )02:21
Healotgro.lenrek.www02:21
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user-land!nvidia02:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:23
MilhousePunkRockOK, this page is a little clearer I guess: http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/dapper-kernels/02:24
MilhousePunkRockI believe this guy did all the work I was going to do myself and compiled a vanilla dapper kernel and patched suspend2 in it...02:24
aegeanlinuxMilhousePunkRock: What processor do you have?02:24
aegeanlinuxIntel P4 ? Celeron ? Celeron D ?02:24
MilhousePunkRockNeither of those02:25
MilhousePunkRockSysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 1132 MHz (2266 bogomips), , RAM: 247/249MB, 77 proc's, 7.33h up02:25
aegeanlinuxKK, that fits the specs too.02:25
MilhousePunkRockOh dear, it looks like I really need to upgrade my RAM...02:25
aegeanlinuxHere's the go, the site has a .au address, you need to be reg'd with the Aus. GovT to get one, so you can always track this dude down if it stuffs up your PC ;)02:26
aegeanlinuxAdd this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:02:26
aegeanlinux    deb http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/ubuntu-suspend2 dapper/02:26
aegeanlinuxBut as always, it is at your own risj02:26
aegeanlinux*risj02:26
aegeanlinux*risk02:26
MilhousePunkRockwill sudo apt-get update prompt me which kernel I want?02:26
gatekeeperMilhousePunkRock: the kernel is modularised these days, so a full recompile should not be necessary, should be a case of finding the right module and doing any necessary configuring as the person in that url has02:26
aegeanlinuxNo, but it will install the right kernel02:27
aegeanlinuxhttp://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/dapper-kernels/ <-- read instructions02:27
MilhousePunkRockWhat if I rather want the 686 kernel though, my CPU is a 686-class CPU, isn't it?02:27
aegeanlinuxYes, It is a p302:27
aegeanlinuxhttp://www.aegeanlinux.be/index.php?n=Main.WhatIsAegeanLinux <-- list of 686 Processors02:28
MilhousePunkRockgatekeeper: I am aware of that, but Suspend2 only comes as a kernel patch02:28
aegeanlinux(thats not an advertisment ;) )02:28
MilhousePunkRock.be aegeanlinux? We're neighbours, kind of...02:29
aegeanlinuxMilhousePunkRock: Don't rip it.02:29
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MilhousePunkRockDo I get this right, aegeanlinux? You created your own distro?02:31
aegeanlinuxMilhousePunkRock: Lets talk about that in #aegeanlinux . This convo has been held to many times in this room :P02:31
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gararhi02:33
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user-landdoes easykubuntu still exist ?02:33
emonkeylapuser-land, look for Automatik02:34
aegeanlinuxG;day garar02:35
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gararhmm how can I change color of task bar items highlight? When I hover mouse over program in taskbar it looks awfull gray, where can I change it?02:36
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MilhousePunkRockBack to that "custom" kernel... Can it break the hardware?02:38
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r4z\Jani've irda0 as interface and it works, but i want to use it as a serial device: /dev/ttyS1 how to do this?02:55
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aegeanlinuxI am going to bed soon y'all! Have a good sleep / Good day03:08
pickledbushmanhttp://fun.newz.co.za/woody.html03:08
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Botkilleranyone know how I get ./ to work?03:09
aegeanlinux./ ?03:09
fannagogannadid you make sure that the file you're trying to run has executable permission?03:09
Botkilleryeah, as in ./steam for example, I get the error that there is no such file or dir03:10
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Botkilleryep03:10
Botkillerit is in the same dir, it has chmod +x on it, but still :/03:10
fannagogannawhat's the output of ls -l in the directory steam is located?03:10
Botkillertotal 927603:10
Botkillerdrwxr-xr-x 2 mike mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:20 hlds03:10
Botkiller-rwxr-xr-x 1 mike mike 7506846 2004-09-22 07:54 steam03:10
Botkiller-rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike 1962970 2004-09-22 07:55 steam.tar.gz03:10
Botkillerdrwxr-xr-x 2 mike mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:40 ventrilo03:10
fannagogannatry exec steam03:11
fannagogannathat is, "exec steam"03:11
Botkillermike@dedi107:~$ exec steam03:11
Botkiller-bash: exec: steam: not found03:11
Botkillerwith the "?03:11
fannagogannahmm, this is very very very strange03:12
fannagogannado you have any other shells beside bash that you can run?03:12
fannagogannasay tcsh?03:12
Botkillerdunno, only have this server for about 1.5 hours or so :P03:12
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Botkillerhow do I run other shell?03:12
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fannagogannathere might be a command called "chsh"03:12
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fannagogannaso are you logged in remotely to a server that has this steam application?03:13
Botkillermike@dedi107:~$ chsh03:13
BotkillerPassword:03:13
BotkillerChanging the login shell for mike03:13
BotkillerEnter the new value, or press ENTER for the default03:13
Botkiller        Login Shell [/bin/bash] :03:13
fannagogannatry /bin/tcsh03:13
Botkillerk03:13
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fannagogannaand then see if your other commands work03:13
DeadS0ula c shell user =O03:14
Botkiller/bin/tcsh is an invalid shell.03:14
DeadS0ulwhat bout ksh?03:14
fannagogannaok try that03:14
Botkillerk mom03:14
fannagogannaI haven't used chsh in a while so I don't know how to get a list of available shells03:14
Botkilleralso invalid03:14
DeadS0uloh dear =(03:15
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Botkillerindeed :S03:15
fannagogannaso have you logged into a remote machine that has this steam executable?03:15
Botkilleryes03:16
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fannagogannaI want to try something -- is it possible for you to send me the "steam" executable?03:16
Botkillermy own dedicated server that I won a week ago03:16
fannagogannaI want to test if there's a problem with your bash shell03:16
Botkillerdon't have ftp on it yet03:16
Botkillerwell I do know it works at my red hat box next to me03:16
fannagogannayou mean your IRC client doesn't support file sending and receiving?03:16
Botkillerlet me look for it, mom03:17
fannagogannawho's mom?03:17
Botkillermoment03:17
fannagogannawho is "mom"?03:17
fannagogannaoh ok03:17
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Botkillersorry normal expression in dutch :P03:17
fannagogannaah you're in the netherlands?03:17
Botkilleryup03:17
fannagogannaI went on vacation there a few weeks ago :)03:17
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Botkillernice, where? :)03:18
fannagogannaAmsterdam :-D03:18
v3ctorGermany03:18
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Botkillerhttp://japje.nl/steam/steam.tar.gz03:19
fannagogannaI want you to try something, see if you can run sh03:19
BotkillerI got it from there03:19
Botkillerjust sh?03:19
fannagogannaoh you got it to work?03:19
Botkillerno03:19
MilhousePunkRockWho would do vacation in Germany if not forced to at gun point?03:19
Botkillerthat's the steam file03:19
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Botkillersh gives the same problem03:20
fannagogannahmm, this is very very very weird03:20
Botkillertrue03:20
fannagogannaunless I can log in, I'm fresh out of ideas03:20
fannagogannaI've never seen anything like this03:20
Botkillernor did I03:20
fannagogannab/c it works on my kubuntu machine03:20
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Botkillercould it be a problem with the command ./ itself?03:21
Botkillerthat it isn't recognized?03:21
fannagogannaI don't think so, but I don't know for sure03:21
fannagogannathe thing is, the "./" is integrated into bash03:21
v3ctorls ./steam03:21
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fannagogannawhat's the output from that?03:22
Botkillermike@dedi107:~$ ls ./steam03:22
Botkiller./steam03:22
v3ctornot a  problem with ./03:22
sam--hi, i need some assistance with setting up a usb wireless device03:22
v3ctorwhat does the first line of steam say?03:22
Botkillerof the file itself? like in vi?03:23
sam--is there a tool like wlassistant for wpa ?03:23
v3ctornvm03:23
v3ctorit's binary03:23
Botkilleryup03:23
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v3ctortry installing a new shell and see if it is a bash problem03:24
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xylusexcuse me but im trying to burn an iso dvd with k3b on the kubuntu system and it says unable to change wright speed error03:27
MukiEXAnyone know of a good Cloning/Ghosting/Backup program?03:27
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xylusany idea how to fix this problem? because i tryed changeing the write speed03:27
v3ctoror you could try dash...that should be installed03:27
fannagogannarsync :)03:27
xylusand i stil get it03:28
xylusdash?03:28
xylusi dont see it listed under programs03:28
v3ctorxylus: not you03:28
xylusoh sorry03:28
xyluslol03:28
MukiEXSomething perfect would be a prob that backs up everything but the /home folder (keeps the directory stucture for it tho), and turns the installation into an installER, complete with a partitioning prog.03:28
MukiEX*prog03:28
xyluscan noone help me out?03:29
v3ctorMukiEX: there is a ghost for linux. I saw it on sourceforge once03:29
MukiEXv3ctor : Thanks, but I worry that program hasn't seen an update in years =(03:29
v3ctormaybe they got it right years ago ;)03:30
v3ctoror maybe not03:30
Botkillerdash isn't installed either03:30
v3ctorhmm..i have dash and i didn't install it. Thought it might be there03:31
MukiEXI wish it was in the repository ;)03:31
fannagogannaby dash, do you mean the Debian Almquist Shell?03:31
xyluslinux is all about these repositorys heh? are those kinda like the program files of windows?03:31
v3ctorfannagoganna: yes03:31
BotkillerI guess03:31
fannagogannahmm, when I run "apt-cache search dash," it seems to exist03:32
v3ctorsudo aptitude install dash03:32
xylusim burning a coppy of debian now from the kubuntu system am i makeing a good choice?03:32
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xylusit seems to me kubuntu is hmmm glitchey03:32
xylusmostley because its a small system03:33
Botkillerinstalling dash...03:33
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MukiEXanyone use kbfx?03:33
xylusmukiex isent kbfx soemthing to do with superkarumba?03:33
v3ctoryou are making *a* choice. good vs.bad will be determined wen you decide if it is what you want/need03:33
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MukiEXNah, it doesn't require superkaramba, xylus. Not a fan of that prog, presonally ^_^03:33
v3ctorwhen*03:33
xyluswell my problem is this v3ctor03:33
MukiEXIt's just an aplet.03:34
xyluskubuntu is dead for installing source and its also glitchey and just not well built03:34
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xylusso im trying a full distro such as debian03:34
Botkillerok, I have dash loaded, and when I run ./steam I get -bash: ./steam: No such file or directory03:34
Botkiller:S03:34
v3ctorBotkiller: change to dash03:34
Botkilleri did chsh, password and than /bin/dash03:34
xylusmuki why dont u like superkarumba?03:35
v3ctornot like that03:35
v3ctorjust run dash03:35
xylusi am going to try and get that prog once i get deb up and running03:35
xylusi just like the litle applets on yr desktop that display system information03:35
xylusin transparent backround03:35
xylusi think its pimped i dont know much about super and havent installed it once yet but im looking forward to trying it03:35
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Botkiller./dash: ./steam: not found03:36
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v3ctordash && ./steam03:36
BotkillerI'm starting to wish I had fedora on it :/03:36
Botkillerk03:36
fannagogannaor sorry :(03:37
Botkillermike@dedi107:~$ dash && ./steam03:37
Botkiller$03:37
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v3ctorwell  you are in dash now ;)03:37
v3ctortry ./steam03:37
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Botkillerdash: ./steam: not found03:37
Botkillerand I'm in the right dir03:38
v3ctoryou sure?03:38
Botkiller$ ls -g03:38
Botkillertotal 927603:38
Botkillerdrwxr-xr-x 2 mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:20 hlds03:38
Botkiller-rwxr-xr-x 1 mike 7506846 2004-09-22 07:54 steam03:38
Botkiller-rw-r--r-- 1 mike 1962970 2004-09-22 07:55 steam.tar.gz03:38
Botkillerdrwxr-xr-x 2 mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:40 ventrilo03:38
Botkilleryup03:38
v3ctorhome dir?03:38
fannagogannabtw, how about other programs, do they work?03:38
fannagogannalike go to /usr/bin03:38
fannagogannathen run "./ls"03:38
fannagogannasee if that works03:39
scott__hey, can anyone help me with my ipod? it seems that all my tracks have gone 'missing' on them, in amarok they come up under the folder 'invisible' yet in rythmbox i can play them, gtkpod cant see themeither (all though md5 hashes all of them), how can i get them to all show up again in my ipod?303:39
Botkiller$ cd /usr/bin03:39
Botkiller$ ./ls03:39
Botkillerdash: ./ls: not found03:39
v3ctorls is ont a good test03:39
Botkillerwhat is?03:40
BotkillerI tried it on ventrilo, same problem03:40
v3ctor./du03:40
Botkiller$ ./du03:40
Botkillerdash: dash:: not found03:40
Botkiller:S03:40
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Botkillerand yes, have the file :P03:40
v3ctorsomething is broken03:40
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BotkillerI'm starting to get confinced it's something with running execs :S03:41
cristianohi all03:41
v3ctorBotkiller: no, it is something with running with ./03:41
v3ctoryou succesfuly ran dash ;)03:41
Botkiller:P03:42
v3ctoris mike you username?03:42
Botkillerwell, next step is finding a fix for this problem i guess ^^03:42
Botkilleryes03:42
v3ctortry running with full path03:42
v3ctor /home/mike/steam03:42
cristianoi have a directory with some ,zip files which i wanna to be extracted, is it possible to let unzip extract all the .zip files at the same time instead then one by one? i have tried with "unzip [path] /*" but it says "zip file not matched"03:42
Botkillerdash: ./home/mike/steam: not found03:42
v3ctoror what ever the location is03:43
v3ctorno ./03:43
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Botkillerjust /home/mike/steam?03:43
v3ctoryes...if that is where it is located03:43
fannagogannayeah, that's a good idea, might work03:43
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Botkillerdash: /home/mike/steam: not found03:43
Botkillerno it doesn't :P03:43
v3ctoris that the location of steam?03:43
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone, again...03:43
Botkilleryup03:43
cristianoany clues for me?03:43
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fannagogannabtw, Botkiller, are you running kubuntu on this machine, and if so do you have root access to it?03:44
Botkillerat least : the file steam is in /home/mike03:44
BotkillerI have root access to it03:44
Botkillernot sure what my provider installed on it, I know it is some kind of ubuntu 64bit03:44
fannagogannarun "apt-cache search steam"03:45
Botkillerk03:45
MilhousePunkRockHow can I manually install a kernel? I added a repo to get a suspend enabled kernel, but the one I got seems to be without restricted modules, therefor my WiFi card won't work03:45
fannagogannawhat's the output there?03:45
hephooeyMy kubuntu installation hang at "choose mirror", when I don't have an internet access03:45
Agioscristiano: try unzip path/*.zip  and if that doesn't work I'll tell you another way03:45
hephooeyis that a known bug?03:45
cristianoAgios it didn't work, already tried03:45
cristianoit says "zip file not matched" Agios03:45
Botkillerfannagoganna : nothing03:45
Botkillerroot@dedi107:~# apt-cache search steam03:46
Botkillerroot@dedi107:~#03:46
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hephooeyIs there a way to skip this in ubiquity?03:46
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Agioscristiano: type this then:  for a in `/bin/ls path/*.zip ; do unzip path/$a; done03:47
MilhousePunkRockBesides that, is KDE 3.5.3 in the repos now? I get lot of updates here...03:48
fannagogannaBotkiller are you running dapper?03:48
fannagogannaor breezy?03:48
cristianoAgios:  the second "path" which path is?03:48
Botkillernever heard of them03:48
Agioscristiano: type this then:  for a in `/bin/ls path/*.zip`'; do unzip path/$a; done03:48
fannagogannawhat does your /etc/apt/sources.list file look like?03:48
xylushey does anyone have a good applet for superkarumba?03:48
Agiospath is the same path your zip files are in03:48
fannagogannarun "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and what is the output?03:49
cristianoAgios: ok i'll try and let u know :)03:49
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Botkilleroops :P03:49
MilhousePunkRockxylus: Superdoku, in case you like the sudoku puzzle...03:49
Botkillersending fannagoganna03:50
xylushehe thanks but what im looking for is a applet that displays system information in a styleish backround on the desktop03:50
xylusi belive someone told me to get a app for superkarumba03:50
scott__anyone know how i can recompile/rewrite my ipod itunes database? as some of my files have gone missing on my ipod but are visible to rythmbox (but not amarok or gtkpod)03:51
Botkillerfannagoganna : you see my dcc request?03:51
fannagogannasorry no :(03:51
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fannagogannaI'm using gaim, let me try xchat and see if you can send the file again to me03:51
Botkillerk03:52
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xylushey guys whats newer kubuntu or the latest stable version of debian03:52
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fannagogannahi Botkiller03:52
fannagogannacould you send the file over to me?03:52
Botkillerhi fannagoganna03:52
Botkillersending03:53
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Tallia1Kubuntuwhere i can ask some information about udev-ipod configuration? #udev doesn't exists!!03:53
Botkilleryou getting it?03:53
fannagogannasorry, don't know why but no03:54
fannagogannacould you email to tanim.islam@gmail.com?03:54
fannagogannaif possible?03:55
cristianoAgios: it appeared ">" when i execute the command u gave03:55
Botkilleryou got google messenger?03:55
fannagogannayup that i have03:55
fannagogannaok i see you there03:56
cristianoAgios: what is wrong?03:57
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Agiospaste exactly what you typed04:00
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cristianoAgios maybe i found an error in what u wrote, there is a strange simbol near the " ' " in ur statement, just before " ; " could be this?04:03
Agiosprobably04:04
cristianook i try04:05
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cristianodamn! Agios i think the prob is in the way i write down the path!!! because the path is something like "dsf earth nav/earth nav data" with spaces, it doesn't know how to interpret that spaces in the path04:08
Tallia1Kubuntusomebody can explain me why when kmailservice is started.. tons of konqueror windows start popping up one after the other!?!04:08
Agioscristiano: yes. you need 'path with spaces'04:09
cristianoAgios the path i need is "/home/cristiano/xinst/europe/all/resources/default scenery/dsf 820 earth/earth nav data/+30+010" and as u can see there are a lot of spaces, and if i put this it gives me an error04:09
cristianohow to correct this?04:09
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dr_willissingle quotes around the whole path line. perhaps.04:10
Azzcois it okay if I ask a game install oriented question?04:10
cristianodr_willis: what do u mean?04:10
dr_willis'path/to/the big thing'04:11
cristianodr_willis: i'm sorry but i'm not understing how to write it right :( can u give me an example with the path above pls?04:11
Agioscristiano: that's probably why unzip didn't work in the first place04:11
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dr_willis'/home/cristiano/xinst/europe/all/resources/default scenery/dsf'04:12
Agiosunzip '/home/cristiano/xinst/europe/all/resources/default scenery/dsf 820 earth/earth nav data/+30+010/*'04:12
cristianook guys i try this way and let u know04:12
dr_willisyou got + chars in the path as well?04:12
TintinWhat tool is the best to manage services in /etc/init.d/ ?04:13
cristianook it works this way!!!! many thx :D04:13
dr_willisusing wildcards that way - may not work with unzip - because of how it handles filenames./wildcards04:13
dr_willisYou can only have so long a command line.04:13
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uniqtintin: 'ksysv' maybe.. don't use it myself. (i use 'update-rc.d' from konsole).04:14
AgiosTintin: you can use the sysv init editor under system settings or install sysv-rc-conf for a command line tool04:14
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AzzcoI've got an error when trying to launch unreal tournament...it only says Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap]  and then aborts...what could be wrong?04:16
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TintinThanks guys...04:18
xylussomeone help me please!! im trying to install debian system on my current kubuntu and it wont detect my eathernet04:18
xylusso how do i find out what driver i need04:18
xylusso i can slect it from the list04:18
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xylusi tryed network information and got nothing04:18
xylusanyone have any sugestions?04:19
dr_willisinstall debian system on my current kubuntu ?04:19
TintinAgios: Ahh... never noticed the system settings sysv editor. Thanks... that's great!04:19
xylusyeah im installing debian04:19
xylusand getting rid of kubuntu04:20
dr_willisso the fact that kubuntu was there... meand nothing then eh? :)04:20
xylusno04:20
xylusi just wana know how i can find out what driver i need using kubuntu04:20
xyluswhere do i go to find out what driver is needed for my eathernet card04:20
dr_willisyou mean what network card kernel module is loading.04:20
xylusi guess..04:20
dr_willislsmod shows information about all loaded modules.04:21
dr_willissee what ones are loaded.04:21
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xylusso many04:22
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xylusthat i cant tell wich one is the one i need lolz04:22
dr_willisand what is your network card?04:22
dr_willislspci - lists what cards are on the system04:22
xyluskk ill check04:22
beazelyxylus: lspci -vv|grep Ethernet04:23
Ace2010may i ask why your installing debian? and what method are you using to install? are you going to donwload the dvds or do a web install?04:23
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beazelyonce you have the card type, working out the correct module is easy04:23
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MeTaMorfoziSis there a way, to send global messages?04:24
beazelyalthough for it not to auto configure  seems strange, broken or old??04:24
MeTaMorfoziSlike irc global message04:24
dr_willisto everyone on this server?04:24
MeTaMorfoziSno on this server04:24
MeTaMorfoziSon linux04:24
admiral_proFTWMeTaMorfoziS, what?04:24
MeTaMorfoziSwhen some users logged04:24
MeTaMorfoziSand logins with root04:24
MeTaMorfoziSand send a message to all04:24
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Ace2010you mean like when a system admin pops up a message to you saying stuff04:25
uniqmetamorfozis: 'wall'04:25
xylussystem:/media/sda6/desktop04:25
uniqmetamorfozis: 'wall' or 'write'04:25
xylussystem:/media/sda6/konqueror04:25
xylussystem:/media/sda6/sounds04:25
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xylussystem:/media/sda6/titanium04:25
xylussystem:/media/sda6/Titanium04:25
xylussystem:/media/sda6/wallpapers04:25
admiral_proFTWxylus, man stop that04:25
xylussystem:/media/sda6/kde_box_small.png04:25
admiral_proFTWuse a pastebin or something04:25
xylussystem:/media/sda6/login04:25
xylussystem:/media/sda6/readme.txt04:25
xylussystem:/media/sda6/titanium_crystal.jpg04:25
admiral_proFTWxylus, STOP04:25
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admiral_proFTWjesus04:26
MeTaMorfoziShm the wall needs a file04:26
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brassehello04:27
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admiral_proFTWxylan_ if you want to stay in the channel, use the paste bin04:32
admiral_proFTW!paste04:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:32
schmakkkdm gives me: *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x082550b0 and kdm.log says my mouse failed preinit. are those two things connecte?04:32
admiral_proFTWwakko, you read that?04:33
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schmakkoh well, no kde for me04:36
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schmakkhow super, 3rd reboot fixed it. this stuff makes no sense.04:39
dr_willisThats part of the 'making linux more like windows trend' :)04:40
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schmakkwell, why is it that my mouse is usually at /dev/input/event4 and then sometimes at /dev/input/event3?04:40
v3ctorlol04:40
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schmakkit makes x die in horrible ways04:41
dr_willisschmakk,  i tend to just use /dev/input/mice04:41
dr_willisschmakk,  that way its all the mice/pointers. (I think)04:41
schmakki tried that but evdev wont work very well with it04:41
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dr_willisNot sure how that works. :) but it works on my laptop that way very well.04:41
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wolahi04:45
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lens_I want to switch from Gnome to Kubuntu... what should I type in the bash prompt?04:45
trappistsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:45
admiral_proFTWlens_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:45
schmakksudo apt-get install kubuntu-..... trappist was faster04:46
trappistI win04:46
lens_lol, and it will automatically start up Kubuntu?04:46
admiral_proFTWlens_, it will install it04:46
schmakkwhen its done, you can choose kde in gdm04:46
lens_oh ok, cool :)04:46
trappistlens_: no, you'll need to log out.  it should ask you at some point if you want to switch your desktop manager from gdm to kdm, and I recommend saying yes.04:46
admiral_proFTWand when you reboot it,  you can log in with KDE04:47
schmakkthat means that at the login screen, you find select session and click kde04:47
lens_right on, sounds easy enough... thanks!04:47
lens_Im gunna do it :)04:47
schmakkworked for me04:47
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lens_Kubuntu has cooler apps and stuff.04:47
lens_(made to be integrated with the desktop I mean)04:48
trappistyeah all the cool guys use kde04:48
admiral_proFTWlens_, its easier to navigate04:48
admiral_proFTWI think04:48
lens_;-)04:48
dr_willisCHicks perfer guys that use KDE.04:48
trappistdefinitely04:49
dr_willischicks hear 'gnome' and think of alt.binary.erotica.midget.wrestlers04:49
dr_willis:)04:49
lens_lol04:49
lens_true04:49
trappistand you can trust us on that - our presence in a tech channel on irc is evidence that we are experts on chicks04:49
dr_willisYea  - all the real loosers are playing MMORPGS04:50
dr_willis:)04:50
lens_Well, this chat room is a good size... I'm sick of competing with 900 people to talk in #ubuntu04:50
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trappistpsst... it's a "channel"  :)04:50
lens_yeah :)04:50
dr_willislens_,  and they all got ya on Ignore. :P04:51
lens_haha whatever.04:51
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lens_I'm backing up a DVD so I have to wait a few.04:51
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lens_Geeze my mouse is acting weird, maybe I can change the setting in Kubuntu.04:54
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lens_I put new batteries in it, but it seems to have an inconsistent speed.04:55
eitch0000where would I go for info about webcams?04:55
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trappistlens_: if you're backing up a dvd, you're probably having i/o issues04:56
lens_trappist, that makes sense.04:56
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eitch0000where would I go for info about webcams?04:56
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lens_it's almost done, just ripping the iso at the moment.04:56
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jaffa_could some1 please tell me why amarok doesnt want to play my mp3s????04:57
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Hobbsee!mp304:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:57
admiral_proFTWjaffa_, restricted formats04:58
admiral_proFTWopen that link up04:58
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jaffa_ok04:59
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AzzcoI can't figure out what's the problem over here...I'm trying to launch a game from terminal but all it says is SIGIOT [iot trap]  and aborts...any suggestions?05:02
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AgiosAzzco: it could be compiled with an older release of libc or gtk. A recompile might correct it.05:06
Azzcothx Agios that was something that I needed to hear =)05:06
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Azzcomight be back in a while...I've got a backup plan for playing the game too hehe05:07
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confusedI cant seem to get nvidia to run properly, is there anyone that could help?05:12
m5mOpenOffice's Spelling-Checker doesn't seem to work for me at all... anyone have a clue how to tackle this?05:13
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Philip5confused: what about it?05:16
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confusedPhilip5: this is where I got it from http://cholito.org/2006/03/17/installing-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu/  (it's a small guide) I followed it sort of to the letter but it didnt work out05:18
confusedPhilip5: when asked to choose with driver I choose alsa cause nvidia didnt show up in there.. and the enable nvidia config or w/e didnt work cause the cmd wasnt found.. I went to xorg.conf and put nvidia in the drivers place and when booting up the system hangs and I cant see an error or nothing05:19
Philip5confused: first... is the nvidia module loaded into your kernel? check with 'lsmod | grep nvidia'05:21
confusedPhilip5: it shows this nvidia               4550772  005:22
confusedi2c_core               21904  3 i2c_acpi_ec,nvidia,i2c_nforce205:22
confusedagpgart                34888  2 nvidia,amd64_agp05:22
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Philip5ok05:22
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Philip5if you run 'glxinfo'05:22
Philip5you don't get any nvidia info?05:23
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confuseduhu thats a lot of info there for the cmd.. I dont know what id look for05:23
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Philip5confused: in the about 3-4 line say 'server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation'05:24
confusedPhilip5: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org05:25
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Philip5confused: then that is what's wrong... you get the mesa glx instead of nvidia05:25
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confusedPhilip5: you make it sound like it's so simple lol.. im new to linux05:26
Philip5it's in your xorg.conf you see that the right glx is loaded05:26
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confusedalright i'll open that up05:27
Philip5confused: could you past your xorg.conf at pastebin?05:27
Philip5then i can have a look05:27
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Philip5paste05:27
confusedok I guess05:27
Philip5!paste05:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:27
confusedI know05:27
Philip5ok05:28
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confusedPhilip5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1886605:29
Philip5ok, i'll check05:29
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confuseddidnt mean to sound mean or w/e but im used to being on irc now cause things ive tried have yet to run smoothly :X05:30
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MukiEXIs there a way to backup every package I've downloaded via apt to a disc and turn it into a personal repository?05:30
confusedPhilip5: I know for drivers it's set to nv but that was the only way to even get kubuntu to boot up05:31
Philip5confused: ok05:31
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Philip5confused: do you have this file in this place? '/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so'05:31
confusedPhilip5: it seems that way since it's asking what I want to run it with05:32
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ryanakcawhats the difference between the new kdelibs and the old one? (I'm running upgrade)05:33
Philip5confused: what asks that?05:34
confusedPhilip5: when you asked if I had the file libglx.so I said id assume so cause when I place that in a folder (address bar) and hit enter a window comes up asking what id like to run that file with05:35
confusedPhilip5: so yes it's there :X05:35
Philip5aha05:35
confusedlol05:35
Philip5try to force it to use the nvidia glx by using 'Load           "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so"'05:36
Philip5then change nv to nvidia05:36
Philip5and restart X05:37
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confuseddont wanna :X told ya when I did that and tried to start the computer it will hang on a screen and id have to restart05:38
slushpupiedoes anyone know of any hacks/patches to make KDM handle pam asking for multiple password inputs?05:38
confusedoh I didnt see that other top message.. umm i'll try that05:38
Philip5ops... gave you the wrong line there05:39
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Philip5try to force it to use the nvidia glx by using 'Load           "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so"'05:39
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confusedI typed that whole thing "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so"' and now in terminal it shows a > after that and nothing else... now try and change nv to nvidia?05:41
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yamalslushpupie: why multiple passwords?05:42
Philip5confused: now i see05:42
confusedPhilip5: what?05:42
Philip5hehe05:42
confusedyes?05:43
Philip5to confuse a bit more it should be 'Load           "usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"'05:43
Philip5if you have that one too05:43
ninniuzanyone with a asus a8jc laptop?05:44
Philip5and that one should be a symlink to libglx.so.1.0.8762 in the same dir05:44
slushpupieyamal: Static password + SecurID05:44
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confuseduhu.. not making any sense? I typed that in as shown 'Load "usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"'05:44
confusednow you lost me05:44
slushpupieyamal: its the Kerberos pam module, actually05:44
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Philip5confused: oh... that line should be in xorg.conf05:44
Philip5you should't type it in a shell05:44
confusedPhilip5: I assume terminal unless stated other wize05:45
slow-motionhallo05:45
confusedPhilip5: where should it be placed then in xorg.conf?05:45
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Philip5confused: change the line Load "glx" with Load "usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"05:45
Philip5confused: change the line Load "glx" with Load "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"05:46
yamalslushpupie: sorry no idea what a SecurID is05:46
Philip5and first see that you have that file in that place05:46
Philip5it's the nvidia glx05:46
slushpupieyamal: Its a physical card I have with a number that changes once per minute. That is in sync with the kerberos server.  Thats the second "password"05:47
Philip5confused: got it?05:48
yamalpfff in that case i cant help you05:48
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confusedPhilip5: umm trying to :) not used to using nano **** in terminal05:49
confusedPhilip5: almost done05:49
Philip5confused: i never use nano :)05:49
confusedPhilip5: should there be two "" at the end of that cmd?05:50
confusedPhilip5: well what makes me mad is I dont need security what so ever and it always asks for root passwords ;\05:50
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confusedPhilip5: before having to reinstall kubuntu I had that rid of almost05:50
Philip5confused: you one at each end like: "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"05:50
confusedPhilip5: oh okay I saw two05:51
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Philip5confused: you see how they are written in the modules section of xorg.conf05:52
confusedPhilip5: now change nv to nvidia?05:52
Philip5confused: yes05:53
confusedPhilip5: yeah.. had to sudo -s that to get it to write ;\ as I said the perm. stuff is annoying ahha05:53
confusedPhilip5: alrighty :) thanks man.. if it dont work i'll be back on ;)05:53
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Philip5confused: if you type 'sudo passwd' then you get a root account with that password that you can login to05:54
Philip5then you can su instead of always doing sudo05:54
Philip5if you like05:54
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gammamutehello06:01
Antonio_hi06:01
gammamuteFUCK YOU06:01
gammamuteI mean06:01
gammamutehi!06:01
Antonio_?06:01
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confusedPhilip5: I didnt work06:02
Philip5confused: what now?06:02
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confusedPhilip5: lol :p I changed nv to nvidia and restarted and the screen still hangs.. had to change back to nv to boot up06:03
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Philip5does it hang so you have to reboot or do you get an error message that X can't start?06:03
confusedlike last time.. no message what so ever :(06:04
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CntryboyCan someone tell me why java isn't working with konqueror web browser?06:04
roconnorhow do I read an entire file into an (IO)Array?06:04
Philip5confused: that's strange06:04
confusedit gets the a scree where it loads up stuff and when it's about to go to the next screen it stays at the same screen.. it's weird06:04
confusedPhilip5: yep06:05
Philip5confused: can you put you /var/log/Xorg.0.log at pastebin?06:05
confusedPhilip5: sure06:05
Philip5confused: while i take a quick shower here :)06:06
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CntryboyAnyone, someone?06:06
gnomefreakCntryboy: you have knoq. open?06:06
confusedPhilip5: nm then.. im gone go to bed :X ive been up.. umm 17 hours straight? good night :) thanks for the help06:06
Cntryboyyes06:06
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gnomefreakCntryboy: do you see dialog?06:07
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CntryboyI'm in the configure konqueror area, and on the left side im where it says java & javascript06:07
gnomefreaksorry i mean do you see HTML06:07
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gnomefreakCntryboy: Select "HTML Settings->Java" from the Tools menu to enable it.06:07
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Cntryboykk yah it was already checked on java script, but then i went to java also06:08
Cntryboyis that all I have to do?06:08
gnomefreakCntryboy: restart konq. that *should* be it06:09
Cntryboyok let me try06:09
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Cntryboygnomefreak: everytime I restart konq. the check for 'java' isn't there06:10
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Cntryboyit's not saving it as checked06:10
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xylusi cant install a theme titanium.kth with kubuntu anyone know how i can do this?06:11
gnomefreakCntryboy: you did install sun-java5-bin and set it as default java right?06:11
xylusit says to go into appearance and install new theme but its not their06:11
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Cntryboywell I apt-get install sun-java5-jre06:12
Thinkhey hi all06:12
Cntryboythats what someone here told me to get about 3 days ago06:12
gnomefreakCntryboy: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin  <<< should work than run sudo update-alternatives --config java to set it to default06:13
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Thinkquestion i have problem my xserver does not start06:13
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gnomefreakCntryboy: jre shouold bring in bin and plugin but im not looking at it atm06:13
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CntryboyI have 2.1KB, why do I have to download the plugin, if I've already spent 15 hours downloading the main java?06:14
gnomefreakCntryboy: here see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java06:14
gnomefreakit tells you everything that you need to know06:14
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xylussomeone please help me install a .kth theme for kubuntu06:15
Cntryboyokay, im going to go there so why would I have to download the plugin if I already have the main java downloaded?06:15
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ThinkWhen X does not start what command can i use to fix my video card problem06:16
gnomefreakCntryboy: first makle sure java is set to default06:16
xylusor does anyone know how i can install this login screen for kubuntu?06:16
Cntryboyso type this sudo update-alternatives --config java  ?06:16
Cntryboythat url u gave me is still taking it's time to load :(06:17
Thinkxylus try typ in command kcontrok06:17
Thinkxylus try typ in command kcontrol06:17
Cntryboyhow can I see if its set to default06:17
xylusok06:17
Thinkok06:17
xyluswow think yr awesome XD06:18
xylusthx thats what i was lookin for06:18
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xylustheir was no link to it in my menu folders or anything06:18
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xylusthx thx thx XD06:18
Thinkyour welcome06:18
gnomefreakCntryboy: yes that is the command06:18
Cntryboygnomefreak: I have a +   2      /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java06:18
gnomefreakyou want the one that says java1.506:18
CntryboyI have a 1 and a 3 line but not a + by them just line 206:19
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Cntryboyokay so hit 306:19
gnomefreakCntryboy: yes06:19
gnomefreakif that is the one06:19
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ThinkWhen X does not start what command can i use to fix my video card problem06:19
gnomefreakCntryboy: after that go back into konq. and reset it06:19
Cntryboythis is for line 3, so im guessing its it   /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java06:19
gnomefreakthan restart it06:19
gnomefreakyes thats the one06:19
Cntryboykk js06:19
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gnomefreakThink: what video card?06:20
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Thinknvidia06:20
gnomefreakThink: you need to install nvidia-glx06:20
Thinkyes i know06:20
Thinkbut can't get in kde06:20
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Cntryboygnomefreak: the java won't stay checked after I restart :(06:21
sophie_hello all I have a quick question06:21
gnomefreakThink: if you use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set it to vesa (driver) restart X you will have a working GUI so you can fix it06:21
Thinkok06:21
gnomefreakCntryboy: ok give me a min let me try mine06:21
Think thanks06:21
sophie_how do you enbale musicbrainz for MP3 in amarok?06:21
Cntryboykk thx06:21
sophie_do I have to recompile06:21
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Cntryboy+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java06:22
Cntryboy*     3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java06:22
Cntryboythats what my config says06:22
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gnomefreakthats fine06:22
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Cntryboyi bet I have to save profile after it's checked rigfht?06:24
Cntryboymaybe thats my prob06:24
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gnomefreakok found out why just let me try a few things to get it working right06:24
AzzcoOkay I've got some 3D problems now... the 3D screensavers looks horrible06:24
Cntryboygnomefreak: okay06:24
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AzzcoI haven't understood how to add the render accel line in the xorg.conf...could somebody help me with it?06:25
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Lord_Athurhi all06:26
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Antonio_could be "http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper" is down?06:27
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gnomefreakCntryboy: what arch are you using i 386?06:27
Cntryboyyah06:27
gnomefreakCntryboy: go into configure konq.06:28
gnomefreaksystem>configure konq. than click on java and javascript06:28
Cntryboyk06:28
Cntryboythere06:28
gnomefreakyou see at the bottom where is says path?06:28
Cntryboyyup06:28
gnomefreakCntryboy: it says java?06:29
grzesiekhi, I've just installed fresh kubuntu, and after upgrading with the last patches my sound went down. aplay hangs up and plays a sound on and on, and so is amarok and other apps. All worked ok right after install, before updating. Can someone give me any clues? I've got a Via onboard sound card.06:29
Cntryboyi was wondering about that earlier06:29
Cntryboygnomefreak: yes it says java06:29
gnomefreakCntryboy: delete what it says in there and put this /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/lib/i386/06:29
gnomefreakCntryboy: than hit apply06:29
Cntryboydone06:29
Cntryboynow go to html click java and restart?06:29
gnomefreakCntryboy: close restart it and look under HTML again to see it checked ;)06:30
gnomefreakCntryboy: it should already be checked06:30
Cntryboyyes06:30
Cntryboy:), now let me c if it works js06:30
gnomefreakyou have java06:30
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Azzcocould someone help me edit xorg.conf?06:32
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AzzcoI'm not sure if I'm doing right =$06:33
AzzcoIn the forums they're talking about adding this line "option "RenderAccel" "true"" but nothing happend when I did =/06:34
sophie_sophie_: you are nice06:34
Cntryboygnomefreak: yes it works now thx bro, I tested it at yahoo-pool. It loaded the applet different than usual though, but ti works :)06:34
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CntryboyAzzco: is that for direct rendering, because when I glxinfo | grep direct it says no for me also.06:36
AzzcoI'll check what it says for me Cntryboy06:37
Cntryboyk06:37
andre_i'm having trouble getting my tv-out to work on my GF6200.  i have my xorg.conf set up for separate screens on the monitor ad the TV, but as soon as X starts the TV loses signal, Xorg.0.log gives no mentiona at all about screen 1 just 006:37
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Azzco"Direct rendering: no" =/ might that be a problem?06:38
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CntryboyAzzco: maybe, mine at one time said yes, im trying to see why its no now06:41
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AzzcoCntryboy: what chipset do you have?06:41
CntryboyAzzco: a guy told me if you have a recent ATI or Nvidia card you want obtain accelaration suppport unless you install propietary drivers (a.k.a binary blobs). Dri has nothing to do with it (the FOSS dri dirvers simply don't support post 1992 AT/Nvidia cards, blame the vendors).06:42
dr_willisI hand-edited my xorg.conf and set up twinview to get my tvout and montior both working at the same time.06:42
Cntryboyi have geforce fx550006:42
dr_willisi found several example xorg.conf's on the internet. and just twiddled with them06:43
AzzcoI've got some intel...it autodetects intel 91506:43
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andre_dr_willis: I'm trying to set up tv-out not using twinview so that there are separate screens for each. but the TV gets no signal as soona s X starts. any advice?06:44
Jazon_lapdoes anyone know how to enable power management in dapper? (in kde)06:44
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CntryboyAzzco: try room #ubuntu06:44
yamalandre_: paste your xorg.conf at the pastebin in the topic so we can take a look06:44
Cntryboymight find an answer there06:45
Azzcookay I will, THX =)06:45
dr_willisandre i set mine up to clone, ive only used twinview.. and it took me a day worth of reading/looking/twiddling with it.06:45
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dr_willisandre could check out that MEPIS live cd. it had a xorg/multimonutor config tool.. if ya can make it work.. copy its xorg.conf :)06:45
andre_yamal: its already here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18829 and the Xorg.0.log is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1882806:46
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andre_dr_willis: thanks for the suggestion. no blank cdrs att he moment thoguh06:46
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timihow can i change the icon for my open office docements so its not clear06:47
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Adam_Ghi, anyone know what the KDE panel process is? (like gnome-panel... for kde)06:47
yamalandre_: no tv output options?06:48
yamaltv format etc06:48
insanekaneAdam_G: kicker06:48
Adam_Ginsanekane, thanks06:48
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andre_yes, theres an entire device and screen section dedicated to the TV.06:48
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yamalandre_: yes but no tv output formats06:48
Guest477 is anyone using kubuntu or edubuntu able to use java in an environment like yahoo games? i have repeated and unsuccesfully beaten this to a pulp... note that under this installation of ubuntu i am able to properly access most java based resources06:49
flauziohi06:49
yamallike pal or whatever they use elsewhere06:49
flauziothis is the forst time i join kubuntu06:49
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andre_yamal: where would I put it? im in canada that's pal right?06:49
yamalandre_: check the nvidia readme, it tells you which areas use what06:49
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yamalandre_: the options are called  TVStandard and TVOutFormat06:50
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andre_yamal: thanks06:51
yamalthey go in the device section for the tv06:51
yamalyw06:51
ganymed123hello06:51
ganymed123i need some help with graphics-magick06:51
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flauzioi need some help to find documentation about overview of comparing gnome to kde :)06:54
ganymed123i wanna process a number of images like img1234.jpg to picture-1234.jpg with ascending numbers after the - ... however gm gives me files like: picture.jpg.1234. any ideas?06:54
secleinteerflauzio: you can just install ubuntu and then add kubuntu-desktop, and then you can try both for yourself06:56
secleinteerbut http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome.php has a comparison06:56
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Jazon_laphow do i enable power management in my kernel?06:57
Jazon_lapfor some reason it is not enabled it tells me06:57
timikpowersave >timi06:57
secleinteerJazon_lap: should be in system settings06:57
Jazon_lapi know06:57
Jazon_lapi agree06:57
ganymed123Jazon_lap: are you using a laptop?06:57
Jazon_lapbut its not06:57
timi!kpowersave >timi06:57
ubotuI know nothing about kpowersave  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:57
Jazon_lapyes i am06:57
Jazon_lapan nec i-select 541006:58
secleinteerhence the "lap" part lol06:58
flauziosecleinteer: thanks already done, and i'm trying them, but i have some doubt06:58
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secleinteerk06:58
flauziosecelinteer, thx fo the link :)06:58
secleinteernp ;)06:59
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franz_It happened again! The KDE toolbar at the bottom of the screen refuses to appear when the mouse goes down there, nor at any other location. I can't remember how this problem was solved about 2 weeks ago....06:59
franz_anyway i suspect this is a bug in KDE07:00
secleinteerfranz_: this happened to me07:00
Lord_Athurbye07:00
secleinteerbut i have the winkey set to open the kmenu07:00
secleinteerso i was able to open it like that07:00
secleinteerbut only like that07:00
ganymed123Jazon_lap: does cpu freuquency scaling work for you?07:01
franz_nlucky you...07:01
secleinteerso i went to system settings07:01
franz_lucky*07:01
secleinteerand i made it so that it wouldn't auto hide07:01
timidoes kubuntu automatically support dual core07:01
Jazon_lapthe weird thing is that I KNOW the power management works with this laptop - i just swiched to dapper from Kanotix and under kanotix it worked almost perfectly (the only issue was improper video playback after suspending)07:01
secleinteerthen i made it again so it would auto hide07:01
ganymed123i need some help with the kipi-plugins (gwenview)07:01
secleinteerand now it works fine07:01
SbCl3is there a guide somewhere on how to make e16 kde's window manager?07:01
ganymed123anybody here who know about them?07:01
franz_secleinteer, now, how i can go to system settings?07:02
dr_willisSbCl3,  ya could start E16 and run kicker07:02
dr_willisor whatever the kde panel is called.07:02
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ganymed123Jazon_lap: try the link in the topics section ... dapper known problems07:02
secleinteeri don't know07:02
secleinteertry alt+enter to open katapult07:02
secleinteerand type system settings07:02
franz_dr_willis, SbCl3 as Antimonium Trichloride?07:03
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franz_it must be toxic.....07:03
Azzcohow do I register?07:04
dr_willis - /msg nickserv help07:04
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gnomefreaki think its /msg nickserv help register07:05
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SbCl3Antimony Trichloride, franz :)07:06
gabriel1Hello07:06
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timidoes kubuntu automatically support dual core07:07
timibecause kpowersave only shows one processror07:07
drayanYes of course.07:07
timithen they does it only show one processor07:08
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franz_sorry SbCl3 ... translated from italian....07:08
timiat 1000mhz whent its a 2ghz dual core07:08
franz_Anyone can tell me how to open system settings ( i can't access the KDE menu) ?07:09
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MuJalt-f2 -> kcontrol ?07:10
xylushey guys im trying to install superkaramba and it says couldent find package and i tryed sudo apt-get install superkaramba07:10
drayanYes, alt-f2 -> systemsettings07:10
secleinteerxylus: you need to add repos07:10
aztunfranz_: systemsettings on console07:10
xyluswhats a repos sec?07:10
secleinteerrepositories07:10
xylusu mean a repository?07:10
secleinteeryeah07:10
xylushow do i do that07:10
franz_ok thanks you all.... didn't know the command syntax07:10
secleinteerlemme get a tutorial07:11
xylusthanks sec its not hard is it>? <-- total noob07:11
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secleinteerxylus: http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/06/25/tips-adding-extra-repositories-on-ubuntu/07:11
xylusthx ill check it out07:11
danielknobenp07:12
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danielknobeim a noob to, but that is important07:12
xylushmm this is gibberish to me07:12
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secleinteerlol07:12
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franz_hey, you think this bad behaviour of KDE toolbar is a bug of KDE or is it Kubuntu?07:13
secleinteerit happened to me after i tried to hide some tray icons07:13
xylusyour private messages are blcok sec07:13
xylusblocked07:13
danielknobehmmm.... KDE is'nt bad07:13
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secleinteerare you registered here?07:14
xylusnope07:14
xylus:(07:14
secleinteerthat's why07:14
danielknobeKDE is a matter of taste.07:14
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danielknobesame like gnome07:14
xylus./nickreg or soemthing isent it07:14
secleinteerdo "/msg nickserv REGISTER [password] "07:14
gabriel1i need help whit ubuntu and firefox and internet, can sombady help me?!07:14
xylusok done07:14
secleinteerand to log in "/msg nickserv id [password] "07:14
franz_danielknobe, I prefer KDE, but it has some bugs...07:15
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danielknobedoes apt-get update work on your maschines, NOW?? or are the servers down?07:17
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gabriel1i need help whit ubuntu and firefox and internet, can sombady help me?!07:18
danielknobewhats your problem07:19
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gabriel1i have installed all the plugins to firefox but when im gone whats a movie on like youtube ther is only a white squear wher the movie should be07:21
gabriel1sorry fore my bad english07:21
danielknobeim german, can't write good too^^07:21
danielknobebut i understand your problem07:21
gabriel1:p07:21
gabriel1and, can you help me?07:22
danielknobemom ich check it out07:22
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LynoureHas anyone by any chance packaged kdissert for ubuntu? I couldn't find one, and could do that, just have to check first07:22
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gabriel1ok07:22
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Ace2005Lynoure: its in the repositories, i just checked in synaptic07:23
danielknobehmm it is possible that the servers are not available?07:24
danielknobeapt-get install do not get a connection07:24
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dr_willistheres some server issues at this time.07:24
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gabriel1i dont know :S07:24
danielknobehmm fuck07:24
danielknobefor your problem:07:24
danielknobeinstall vlv media player07:25
gabriel1ok07:25
danielknobethan the mozilla-plugin-vlc07:25
danielknobeand all will be good i think^^07:25
Ace2005any info on the cause of all this server down time?07:25
danielknobeno idea07:25
danielknobethe apt-get upgrade workx07:25
danielknobeupdate don't workx07:25
danielknobeapt-get don't workx, too07:26
danielknobewith the default aptlist07:26
gabriel1wher do i install vlv media player07:26
LynoureAce2005: I think I checked this morning... hmm, in backport, perhaps07:27
danielknobewith apt07:27
gabriel1what is apt?07:27
danielknobelool if u have the aptlist with the resource07:27
danielknobeomg u don't know apt?^^07:27
gabriel1no i dont know07:28
danielknobeit's the think which makes kubuntu to one of the best distris07:28
danielknobeopen the console07:28
danielknobewrite07:28
danielknobeapt-get install vlc07:28
danielknobedo somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu07:28
danielknobedoes it workx?07:28
danielknobeah07:28
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danielknobesudo apt-get install vlc07:29
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danielknobedoes it work?07:29
gabriel1i think so07:29
danielknobedoes he install vlc?07:29
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gabriel1yes07:30
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danielknoben1 good and than install the plugin over the same way07:30
danielknoberestart firefox07:30
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danielknobeand then all must work i think07:30
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gebruikerHOW DO I UPDATE MY KDE MENU?07:31
MilhousePunkRockgebruiker: No need to shout, what do you want to upgrade?07:31
danielknobewhat do u mean?07:31
gabriel1dosent work:)07:31
gabriel1*:(07:31
danielknobearr07:31
gebruikerfor example, kate isn't in the menu while i can invoke it from the xterm console...07:31
danielknobeto download the plugin?07:31
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MilhousePunkRockif you rightclick on the kmenu icon, you can edit the menu, gebruiker07:32
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gebruiker MilhousePunkRock how do I set a gtk theme that looks like my qt env?07:32
MilhousePunkRockI don't know, gebruiker, sorry07:34
MilhousePunkRockSomeone for sure does though07:34
gabriel1i donsent work !!!07:34
danielknobecould u download the plugin?07:34
gabriel1yes07:34
danielknobei can't download the plugin because the servers are down oO07:35
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gabriel1where do you install plugins?07:35
danielknobewith apt over the standart aptlist07:35
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gabriel1yes, only i knowed what apt was:P07:36
danielknobedo somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu07:36
danielknobehu this sentence i don't understand^^07:36
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gabriel1what is apt07:36
MilhousePunkRockdanielknobe: Did you look at the Wiki at ubuntu.whateveritis?07:37
danielknobethe "packagemanager" for debian based distris07:37
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user_it seems that an update today destroyed my /et/fstab. im running edgy07:37
user_has someone experienced the same problem?07:37
danielknobe@ Milhouse what du u mean?07:38
gabriel1but how do you download plugins?07:38
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danielknobesudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc07:39
danielknobeservers are online now07:40
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danielknobeu can download the plugin now07:41
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LynoureAce2005: Thanks :) I usually keep backports commented out unless I know I want something from there. Would have missed this one without your comment07:41
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timiive installed  kubuntu a few days ago, adn its the only operating system on my computer, ive set up firefox and the appropriate plugins and it says that ive used half my ram07:41
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timiwhihc was 1gb07:42
bernabeholaaa!!!07:42
sebastthat's odd07:42
bernabehallo07:42
sebastmaybe a bug07:42
danielknobeclose porn in the background^^ small joke07:42
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timiyeah the widget i hvae saves 551 of 1003MB07:43
danielknobewhere can u see your ram-status07:43
timii have a widget07:43
timiim just really confused because i thought linux wasnt a memory hog like windows07:43
uniqtimi: that's the cached ram too, i guess. check with 'free -m'07:43
tsdgeosyou can also type "free"07:43
dr_willistimi,  linux isent.. its the other apps that are.07:43
timiuniq07:43
dr_willisunused ram - is wasted ram. when in doubt - its used as a cache.07:44
timiis that in konsole i type that07:44
danielknobelet's say gnu/linux^^07:44
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danielknobeis here somebody how is a developer in C++???07:44
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gabriel1no07:45
Kr4t05danielknobe: Are you looking for someone who knows C++?07:45
timiit says i have 17868 free07:45
timiand 415964 cached07:45
ChousukeI know some C++, so if your question is simple, I might be able to answer it.07:45
Chousuketimi: that's good, then07:45
timiill take your word on it07:45
Chousuketimi: The amount of cache is what matters.07:45
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steveireroughly how long might it take for cds to be shipped to germany?07:46
Chousukeif you have 0 cache and 0 free, then you have apps eating all your RAM.07:46
uniqtimi: yes. with 'free -m' what is used by applications is approx. (used)-(cached). with 'free -m' you get everything in megabytes..07:46
gararhi07:46
gararwhere can I setup my tv output?07:46
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Kr4t05Heh, I like how my CDs were post-marked in France. :P07:46
timii c07:46
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timiso out of 1002 i have 423 free+cached and thats good?07:47
yuyuhi07:47
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Chousuketimi: sounds okay07:47
Chousuketimi: remember that firefox uses a lot of memory for page render cache07:48
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thygrrrHi! I have the following partitions on a harddrive: 30MB (sic) Primary FAT ('system volume'), Extended[Logical hda5 30GB NTFS, Logical hda6 16GB /, Logical hda7 16 GB /home, Logical hda8 8 GB swap]  ... I want to delete hda6, extend the extended partition to span the entire disk, and create a new 30.03 GB partition in the free space before /hda6.07:48
timiok07:48
Chousuketimi: it's a feature, but people often mistake it for a memory leak, because it causes firefox to use huge amounts of memory. :P07:48
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thygrrrWhat do I need to do to my /fstab and grub config? :) Will it even work to boot from an extrneded partition?07:48
ChousukeFirefox really only uses that feature if you have enough memory to afford it.07:48
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timiok so if i cleare the cache then it will be cool07:49
thygrrr ... /etc/fstab, even. I'm trying to understand volumes/devices in linux.07:49
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dr_willisrember that grub starts counting the drives at 0, :P if ya remove a drive the others get 'reordered' when grub scans them07:49
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thygrrrdr_willis, thanks!07:50
danielknobeblobby.sourceforge.net if u like blobby volley ;)07:50
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gabriel1Daniel: im using a other browser that i can play the movies on like movies on youtube but thers no sound07:56
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locobladehey07:57
locobladein kubuntu's add remove programs how do I search for programs?07:58
danielknobehow can i install java, cant find the packages with apt07:58
locobladeeg for xine nothing comes up07:58
locobladeand when i search for fire fox it comes up but is greyed out07:58
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locobladehope people dont mind newbs here07:59
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MilhousePunkRockThis is the place where noobs learn, locoblade08:01
thygrrrI have a small primary "boot" partition (30 mb) at the beginning of my hard drive. I'd like to remove it and (multi)boot from my logical partitions in an extended partition that spans the entire volume. What steps to I have to do? I heard drive numbers may change for grub, etc.08:01
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gabriel1Daniel: sounddriver?08:01
locobladeso say I want to install fire fox08:02
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locobladehow do i go about it?08:02
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scabootsscahow do i remove the ati driver and revert back to the default08:02
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danielknobereconfigure your xorg08:02
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danielknobedkpg-reconfigure xorg08:03
scabootsscathe thing is still in the menu though08:03
mattttttthmm08:03
gabriel1what can i do about my sounddriver?08:03
MilhousePunkRocklocoblade: Open a console and type "sudo apt-get install firefox"08:04
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locobladeok08:04
scabootsscamabye i can go to the package manager and remove all the fglx things?08:04
locobladeand what about other programs?08:04
locobladesay I find one I want to install08:04
stankshello08:04
gabriel1how do i install opera?08:04
locobladelike a new mo3 player08:04
danielknobeapt-get install opera08:05
danielknobeno no08:05
locobladefirefox has no installation candidate BTW08:05
danielknobeopera is not per apt available08:05
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locobladeby the way im on a ppc08:06
gabriel1what fore browsers do you use?08:06
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MilhousePunkRockyou can always look in adept, locoblade. Add some more repos there, or you can download packages and install them yourself...08:07
timiwhts the command to open network settings08:07
danielknobefirefox08:07
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locobladethats the thing08:07
locobladeadept only seems to list programs I already have08:07
jackleI'm currently using suse10, can anyone recommend kubuntu ?08:07
forkzYES!08:07
Kr4t05!tell locoblade about universe08:07
jacklereason?08:07
locobladeuniverse?08:08
forkzjackle: Actually, it's the only dist i ever tried :P08:09
Kr4t05locoblade: you need to enable the "uni/multiverse" repositories in order to install certain programs.08:09
MilhousePunkRock!universe08:09
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:09
jacklecan one setup a vpn gateway easily with it?08:09
locobladeyeah i got those links ubotu08:09
locobladeim reading them now08:09
locobladethanks08:09
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locobladehow do i enable those repositories? and why do i need to?08:10
ChousukeOpera does have an apt repo though.08:10
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jacklelast question: does kubuntu have some sort of control centre such as yast which I can use to config the system?08:10
Kr4t05jackle: Kmenu -> System Settings08:11
MilhousePunkRockSystem Settings in the Kmenu, jackle08:11
jackleisnt that the kde control centre?08:11
forkzYes.... and Kubuntu uses KDE08:11
Kr4t05jackle: nope.08:11
jackleha08:11
forkzah damn... wrong by me08:11
jackleok08:12
jackledeal08:12
Kr4t05kcontrol is the KDE control centre08:12
jackleburining disk08:12
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bbtcould someone help me with some wireless issues? trying to get ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant to work and getting nowhere as the usb card is being pout in iwconfig as eth3 instead of wlan008:13
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MilhousePunkRockTake everyone. Over and out!08:16
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gabriel1whats the name on the other web browser not firefox, E somthing!08:17
PupenoEpiphany ?08:18
forkzInternet Explorer? :P08:18
gabriel1can you have internet explorer on linux?08:18
Pupenoor konquEror ?08:18
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secleinteergabriel1: yes08:18
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secleinteeryou have to wine it08:18
whizz--i want to build a kernel module, the readme says: "First you have to configure your kernel appropriately. etc.. etc" how do i do this?08:18
Pupenogabriel1: please, don't.08:19
the_hammeranyone here good at eggdrop bots?08:19
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secleinteerhe prolly needs it for web development08:19
gabriel1how do you install IE then?08:19
secleinteercheck ubuntuforums.org08:19
secleinteerthe HOWTO section08:19
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locobladeok ive figured out that i need to edit sources.list to enable universe, but I haven't write access08:20
gabriel1ok08:20
locobladedont I have to enter into super mode or something?08:20
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secleinteerlocoblade: go to terminal08:20
locobladeok08:20
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secleinteersudo kate /etc/X11/sources.list08:20
secleinteerthen you can edit08:20
locobladesudo means what?08:20
secleinteersuperuser do08:20
locobladejust out of interst08:20
matttttttanyone know how i can set up my second monitor?08:20
locobladeok08:20
locobladecheers08:20
matttttttso i can have dual monitor goodness again08:21
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jacklemattttttt: twinview08:22
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jackois it possible within X to specify 1 program not to use my window manager08:24
trappistjacko: no, but it may be possible with your window manager to say not to decorate a particular app08:25
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jackono that is not what i need08:25
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florianhallo!08:27
locobladeok it looks like I have universe "unlocked" but adept still brings up the same results08:27
trappistlocoblade: did you say 'sudo apt-get update'?08:28
florianis this english channel?08:28
locobladeno08:28
locobladelemme try that08:28
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usamahi all08:28
locobladeoh cool08:29
usamacan anyone tell me that from where I can tell konqueror to scan for plugins?08:29
locobladelooks like something's happening08:29
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trappistlocoblade: you have to do that whenever you modify your sources.list, for the changes to take effect08:29
locobladewhen the packages are downloaded do i just rerun adept?08:29
timihow do i detect my sensors08:30
trappistlocoblade: it's not downloading packages, it's downloading information about available packages.  and yes.08:30
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locobladecool08:30
locobladethanks08:30
trappisttimi: sudo sensors-detect08:30
timiit says sensors-detect command not found08:31
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edward_fis there a tool to join the .000/.001/002./etc files found on usenet (like mastersplitter for Win)?08:31
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ganymed123hei08:32
ganymed123hi08:32
gabriel1hey08:32
ganymed123i need help with bash scripting08:32
usamacan anyone guide me about that plugins scanning question?08:32
ganymed123i have the following command08:32
gabriel1can sombady help me whit plugins in konqbrowser08:32
ganymed123for i in *.JPG ; do convert $i -resize x768 -quality 85 `basename picture- .jpg`.jpg ; done08:32
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gabriel1can sombady help me whit plugins in konqbrowser08:33
timiwhat does it mean if sudo sensors-detect" returns sensors detect command not found08:33
trappistedward_f: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors08:33
ganymed123so it should convert *.JPG to picture-NUMBER.jpg, but i cannot figure out how to increase the number part (i cannot introduce a second variable)08:33
ganymed123any ideas08:33
ganymed123?08:34
gabriel1can sombady help me whit plugins in konqbrowser!08:34
timigabriel wht plugin08:34
trappistganymed123: x=$(($x+1))08:34
gabriel1Flash player 7 to linux08:34
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usamagabriel1: I have an idea, that install plugins for firefox and tell konqueror to scan the .mozilla folder08:35
Lynouretimi: that the command wasn't found... Did you isntall it yourself?08:35
locobladeok that seems to have worked to a degree08:35
timii jut installed the lm sensors08:35
timiwith the apt get08:35
locobladei had a good few extra programs in adept08:35
usamagabriel1: but I forgot that where we used to tell konqueror to rescan for plugins08:36
thoreauputicSettings - COnfigure konqueror - Plugins - scan for plugins08:36
locobladebut if I want stuff like eclipse, gaim, firefox, what do I need to do?08:36
timilocoplade apt get them08:36
timisudo apt-get install firefox08:36
locobladecan you explain that?08:36
timiin konsole08:36
locobladeI think i tried that08:37
edward_ftrappist: that remark must have been misdirected or have been a joke... lm-sensors has nothing to do with file joining08:37
usamathoreauputic: no, plugins is not given there, I mean in konqueror configuration08:37
locobladeill try again though08:37
thoreauputicusama: it is here08:37
trappistedward_f: probably misdirected, sorry08:37
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thoreauputicusama: in konq08:37
trappistedward_f: I use pan as my nntp client, and it assembles multipart binaries automatically08:37
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usamathoreauputic: konqueror configuration is here open before my eyes and I can not see it, its not there08:38
usamathoreauputic: :(08:38
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timilocoblade tell me if it worked08:38
timiu may need to update repositories to include universe08:38
locobladelooks like firefox might be08:38
thoreauputicusama: well, I just checked it here and it definitely is there08:38
trappistedward_f: other than that, I've never dealt with them, but I suspect you could cat them, as in cat prefix.* > newfile08:38
locobladeyeah i managed to get universe going08:39
thoreauputicSettings - Configure Konqueror - Plugins08:39
edward_ftrappist: will try that then08:39
timiso is it installing firefox08:39
timitimi08:39
locobladebut immwondering about eclipse gaim, xine etc08:39
PingunZWhen I change my /boot/config-2.6.17 file, how can I make that work  ?08:39
locobladedo i just do the same thing?08:39
usamathoreauputic: I installed konqueror in my ubuntu, is there anything missing?08:39
trappisttimi: I meant to tell you that - sudo apt-get install lm-sensors08:39
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thoreauputicusama: I doubt it08:39
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thoreauputicusama: you might need to scroll down in the config dialogue08:40
timitrappist: i did that and installled, then i did sensors detect, apparently my laptop has no sensors08:40
trappisttimi: it probably has no *supported* sensors.08:40
timiic08:40
usamathoreauputic: I checked the every tab of it, but can not find it :(08:40
locobladewhen i install these programs, what do I have to do to get them to show u?08:40
timidownload a pakckage?08:40
timirestart x08:40
locobladeup*08:40
locobladeok08:40
timicnrtl alt backspace08:40
timithen log back in08:40
usamathoreauputic: in my previous it was there08:40
locobladeyeah ill try that soon08:41
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locobladeonce this is finshed08:41
scabootsscahow do i change the login screen?08:41
thoreauputicusama: *sigh* it is definitely there - Under the settings menu as i said08:41
locobladefirefox seems to have been successful08:41
locobladeif i want eclipse08:41
thoreauputicusama: is this dapper/ 6.06 ?08:41
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locobladedo i just replace firefox with eclipse08:41
locobladein the command line?08:41
timitrappist anypackages you know of for sensors08:41
usamathoreauputic: yes08:41
timilocoblade08:41
timimaybe try it08:41
locobladeyeah08:42
trappisttimi: sensors are supported by the kernel.  afaik there are no extra packages to install to support other sensors.08:42
locobladereally what i mean is how do i find out what to stick in there?08:42
thoreauputicusama: up to date with security/ updates?08:42
timiok08:42
trappistlocoblade: apt-cache search is a great way to find the package you need08:42
locobladeok08:42
usamathoreauputic: yes08:42
locobladeeclipse is working it seems btw08:42
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locobladethis is great08:43
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timican i get superkaramba to start up when i log in08:43
timior do i have to start it everytime08:43
thoreauputic!info ksensors08:43
ubotuksensors: lm-sensors frontend for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-9ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 292 kB, installed size 912 kB08:43
trappisttimi: put a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart08:43
timiso i just find that file and type in superkaramba?08:44
locobladecan i have 2 terminals running at once?08:44
thoreauputiclocoblade: of course08:44
locobladek08:44
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xyluscan anyone tell me where i can acess my dvd drive using kubuntu08:44
thoreauputiclocoblade: you can have 10 or even 50 if you like :)08:44
xyluslike it should be under media08:45
usamathoreauputic: info ksensors, what's that08:45
xylusbut its not08:45
gabriel1is ther a browser whit allready installed flash and other plugins?08:45
timino08:45
thoreauputicusama: front end for lm-sensors08:45
usamathoreauputic: and what's Im-sensors08:45
thoreauputicusama: see ubotu's answer08:45
gabriel1Doh08:45
xyluscan someone tell me where the folder is for my dvd drive??08:45
xylusits not under media or mnt08:45
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thoreauputicusama: kernel stuff to monitor temperatures, voltages etc08:46
locobladesudo apt-cache search tells me i must give exactly one search pattern08:46
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thoreauputiclocoblade: you don't need sudo for apt-cache search btw08:46
locobladeoh08:46
usamathoreauputic: hmm, ok thanks, is there any other way to configure plugins for my konqueror?08:46
locobladebut that shouldnt make any difference08:47
thoreauputicusama: did you install flash from the repositories? If so konq should find an use it08:47
locobladeyeah it doesnt08:47
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usamathoreauputic: yes08:47
gabriel1how do you install flash whit konq?08:47
usamathoreauputic: but konqueror asks to download it again08:48
thoreauputicusama: then it should work - I don't know why it doesn't08:48
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usamathoreauputic: it thinks that the flash is not installed08:48
thoreauputic!info flashplayer-nonfree08:48
ubotuPackage flashplayer-nonfree does not exist in dapper08:48
thoreauputichmm08:48
gabriel1how do you install flash whit konq?08:48
trappistI think it's flashplugin-nonfree08:49
thoreauputicah08:49
thoreauputic!info flashplugin-nonfree08:49
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)08:49
locobladestill cant get apt-cache search to work08:49
thoreauputicthanks :)08:49
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gabriel1how do you install flash whit konq??!08:49
timiman kubuntu is awesome08:49
timisudo apt-get install flashplugin08:49
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timigabriel try that^08:50
timi!plugins08:50
gabriel1ok:P08:50
ubotuI know nothing about plugins - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:50
thoreauputiclocoblade: try something like  apt-cache search browser08:50
locobladewill do08:50
thoreauputiclocoblade: that should give you a lot of output :)08:50
gabriel1E: Unable to lock the administration direE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?ctory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:50
trappistlocoblade: apt-cache search keyword08:50
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locobladeweyhey08:50
locobladehow do i learn stuff like that?08:50
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scabootsscahow do i change the login screen to one where you click the name instead of typeing?08:51
thoreauputicgabriel1: close the other instance of apt you have open08:51
thoreauputiclocoblade:  sudo apt-get install apt-howto08:51
z00mneed some help here with how to edit boot options on kubuntu 6.06 i need to make sure that irqpoll is selected in the boot options, i have done a hardisk install so where do i edit the boot options08:51
thoreauputic:)08:51
timigabiel sorry08:51
gabriel1timi: it says colud not find the flashplugin08:51
timiyeah its08:51
timiflashplugin-nonfree08:51
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timisudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree08:52
gabriel1no couldendt find :(08:52
thoreauputicgabriel1: then you need to add repositories08:52
thoreauputic!repos08:52
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:52
timiok gabriel do this08:52
timiopen adept08:52
z00mthoreauputic: do you know where to edit boot options08:52
z00m??08:52
gabriel1ok08:52
ganymed123ciao08:52
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thoreauputicz00m: such as ?08:53
z00mi want to add irqpoll to it08:53
timiok now in the toolbar, click on adpet then mangae repositories08:53
timigabriel tell me when your done08:54
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z00mgatekeeper: hi do you know where to edit boot options in kubuntu ?>08:54
thoreauputicz00m: you can probably put it in /etc/rc.local08:54
gabriel1wait is the adpet packetmaneger on system -> admin -> packetmanger08:54
locobladejust while im waiting08:55
timiumm08:55
timiyes08:55
gabriel1ware do i open08:55
locobladedo i have to set up samba from the command line?08:55
timithats it08:55
gatekeeperz00m, do you mean grub, or beyond that?08:55
gabriel1and in the toolbar adpet is packet?08:55
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timiyes08:55
timiopen adept08:56
locobladeyes me?08:56
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timigabriel08:56
gabriel1yes08:56
timiok its open08:56
z00mwell u know from the first main screen when you install kubuntu, there is an option which is  key F6 to edit boot options08:56
timithen in the adept tool bar, click adept then manage repositoreis08:56
gabriel1yes but you cant press anything08:56
timiok on the bottom look for a button that says administrator mode08:56
z00mi had to put irqpoll in there, now i have done the install im getting the same error because i need to add that to stop the error08:57
gabriel1timi i have swedish language so it is not so easy08:57
z00mto the boot options on the harddisk now08:57
timio08:57
timiit should have prompted you for a password when you opened it08:58
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timib/c you have to be root to open it08:58
gatekeeperz00m, I don't but would imagine it's a conf file associated with kdm08:58
thoreauputicz00m: is this a kernel option ? if so it goes in /boot/grub/menu.list on the relevent kernel line08:58
gabriel1ok im ther08:58
z00mthoreauputic: yes it is08:58
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timidid you do the adept them manage repositories08:58
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thoreauputicz00m: then as I said , you edit it in the menu.list08:58
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gatekeeperz00m, thoreauputic my guess was a country mile out :-)08:59
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gabriel1yes08:59
timiALRIGHT08:59
z00mthoreauputic: i have the dir for menu at that location but not the menu.list file :?09:00
timinow your going to need to enable some repositories09:00
gabriel1ok09:00
z00m../usr/share/menu09:00
thoreauputicz00m: you must have a /boot/grub/menu.list or the machine wouldn't have booted at all  :)09:00
timienable the first 3 sets of http's09:00
timijust right click and enable09:00
z00mah sorry , my heads gone09:01
thoreauputicah soory menu.lst09:01
gabriel1yes09:01
thoreauputicz00m: sorry my mistake it's /boot/grub/menu.lst09:02
timialrigth your done09:02
timiwith that09:02
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gabriel1yes09:02
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kakabizahi09:03
timiok now on the third pair of https09:03
z00mkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet spl$09:03
xylushey guys im using a applet called awesomekaramba for karamba and i would like to know why it dosent display my cpu temp and if i need to download a sensor or not09:03
timiunder the components comment what does it say09:03
z00mthoreauputic: would i need to add it in there09:03
gabriel1ok09:03
locobladecan anyone tell me when i try to play mp3s in amarok each song in the playlist takes about a second and no sound?09:03
thoreauputicz00m: yes at the end of the line - but check the syntax, I'm not sure of that09:03
locobladeeven though i get startup sounds etc#09:03
thoreauputicz00m: after splash I think09:04
gatekeeperlocoblade, what engine are you using?09:04
locobladehow do i check09:04
z00mok ill try that now09:04
locobladekaffine i think09:04
z00mbrb09:04
xyluscan anyone help me figure out why my karamba app isent displaying cup temp?09:04
scabootsscais there a way to make a program if it's on a diffrent desktop not show up in the little bar?09:05
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thoreauputicxylus: you probably need to install and configure lm-sensors09:05
locobladeno its a xine engine09:05
xylusthanks for responce tho could u plz pm me09:05
xyluswhere i would get those plz09:05
thoreauputicxylus: no, keep it in the channel please09:05
timigabriel you still there09:05
thoreauputic!info lm-sensors09:05
xylusok where do i get the sensonrs09:05
ubotulm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In repository main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB09:05
thoreauputic^^^^09:05
xylus!info im-sensors09:06
ubotuPackage im-sensors does not exist in dapper09:06
thoreauputicxylus: its an "L"09:06
thoreauputic:)09:06
timi!info lm-sensors09:06
locobladegatekeeper: its a xine engine that amarok uses09:06
ubotulm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In repository main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB09:06
gatekeeperlocoblade, you just libxene-extracodecs (might have got the name slight wrong) installed09:06
thoreauputicsee ubotu09:06
xyluslol09:06
locobladeoh09:06
xylus!info lm-sensors09:06
xylusnothing happen :(09:06
timigabriel u ther09:06
locobladesay that again please gatekeeper09:06
timithat becae i just type dit xylus09:06
timisee above09:06
locobladeim a bit thick ;)09:06
thoreauputicxylus: no need to keep asking - its right above09:06
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gabriel1ye09:07
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timiok what did it say09:07
timidid it say universe09:07
thoreauputicxylus:  sudo apt-get install lm-sensors09:07
jmarxI need some help configuring the internal modem on an Acer TravelMate 42009:07
xylusok thanks alot thoreauputic09:07
thoreauputicheh09:07
gatekeeperlocoblade, you just libxene-extracodecs (might have got the name slight wrong) installed09:07
thoreauputic!info libxine-extracodecs09:08
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB09:08
locobladein terminal i type libxene-extracodecs?09:08
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gatekeeperlocoblade, ^^^^^09:08
thoreauputiclocoblade: *read* the info above from ubotu!09:08
locobladeok09:08
gatekeepercheers thoreauputic09:08
thoreauputicdoes anyone in here actually read *anything* ?09:08
locobladei cant make sense of that09:08
locobladei have dapper kubuntu09:09
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thoreauputiclocoblade:  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs09:09
locobladeok09:09
locobladety09:09
locobladelol09:09
thoreauputic*sigh*09:09
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gabriel1Yes09:09
timiok gabriel09:09
timiclick on universe09:09
locobladeok well im still downloading eclipse09:09
timiand add mulitverse behind it09:10
locobladeill let you know if that worksw09:10
timiit should look like this09:10
timi"universe mulitverse"09:10
timido that for both09:10
locobladedont suppose any of you guys know why the cd eject button on my ibook is acting as the right mouse button?09:10
timithen apply changes and fetch updates09:10
Mezlocoblade, no idea - but it sounds fun !09:10
locobladelol09:10
locobladeyeah09:10
gabriel1ok09:10
locobladei have to restart the computer to change cds09:11
thoreauputiclocoblade: hit fn first09:11
Mezplug a mighty mouse in and see if you can get it to eject the CD09:11
locobladedamn09:11
locobladeit worked09:11
locobladelmao09:11
thoreauputiclocoblade: the eject works with the Fn key09:11
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locobladei really feel stupid09:11
thoreauputiclocoblade: F11 and F12 are mapped to middle and right click09:11
locoblademaybe someday I'll be able to help someone else feel stupid09:12
locobladeyeah i can see that09:12
locobladehow do you guys know all this?09:12
timialright gabriel09:12
thoreauputiclocoblade: it's like learning pool - if you waste enough time you eventually get to know how ;)09:12
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locobladehaha09:12
timinow09:13
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locobladeyou should know im pretty good at pool09:13
timisudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree09:13
amarokkerquestion: about the logs that appear in kopete logs...are they always sent successfully?09:13
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amarokkeron slow connections/msn-server holdups, it gets delays09:13
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thoreauputiclocoblade: then you ar perfectly suited to linux ;)09:13
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thoreauputiclocoblade: a similar waste of your youth and rsources is required ;p09:14
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timigabriel is it working09:14
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GIGANTORLOL09:14
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timi*ff09:14
thoreauputic:D09:14
ubuntueh09:14
GIGANTORyour loss  ;)09:14
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matttttttweee09:14
timihow do tyou guys but the * in front of your name09:14
timior change fonts and stuff09:14
thoreauputictimi /me says/does something09:15
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timiok09:15
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thoreauputictimi: like /me is tired of clueless people who ask for help all the time ( joking)09:15
thoreauputic;)09:15
timigabriel are you still wiht me buddy09:15
timilol09:15
gabriel1yes09:15
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timidid it work09:16
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gabriel1no it installed but its the same09:16
locobladewill i have to restart x server to see if that libxine extracodecs works?09:16
mattttttti'm in the kubuntu install thing now. I want to be able to dual boot. should i choose manually edit partition table?09:16
timiit installed flash?09:16
thoreauputiclocoblade: no09:16
locobladeok09:16
locobladewell i think im still having problems then09:16
thoreauputiclocoblade: just restart amarok or whatever you were using09:17
timirestart xserver then open something with flash and see if ti works09:17
timicntrl alt backspace then log backin09:17
timidoes anyone use aero all inone09:17
thoreauputicerm - libxine-extracodecs has nothing remotely to do with flash09:17
timiim working with gabriel09:17
thoreauputicah sorry09:17
thoreauputic:)09:17
timiits ok lol09:18
GIGANTORsooooo, who knows commands to help me build KDE from source09:18
GIGANTORi'm shite on the command line09:19
thoreauputicGIGANTOR: what on earth for?09:19
GIGANTORi was told to build the kicker from source first09:19
thoreauputicwhy?09:19
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thoreauputicGIGANTOR: by whom?09:19
GIGANTORwell, with someone's help i have altered the source of KDE to allow me to change my taskbar font to white09:19
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GIGANTORby some guy that cut out on me09:19
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GIGANTORso, i've altered some file...  now i'm supposed to compile the kicker09:19
noxshi ll09:20
noxshi all09:20
GIGANTORand then apparently compile KDE09:20
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thoreauputicGIGANTOR: you realise that compiling KDE is a major task, right?09:20
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GIGANTORi'm ready  ;)09:20
thoreauputicas in, very complex09:20
xylusok i have installed lm sensors but my app still isent displaying cpu tem fanspeed or core ny idea how i can edit the code for that??  i allredy changed everything else over to my current make thats all i have left to do anyone who can help me would be apreciated09:20
Ignite_does anyone know of an updated package for libxine that is fixed against the flac bug?09:20
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GIGANTORthoreauputic:  it's more than just a few typed commands then?09:21
gnomefreakGIGANTOR: its a full desktop environment09:21
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gabriel1I LOVE YOU TIMI IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!09:21
thoreauputicGIGANTOR: oh yes09:21
gnomefreakGIGANTOR: everything you see you have to compile ;)09:21
gatekeeperGIGANTOR, on gentoo people say that it takes hours09:21
locoblade2ok sonething happened there09:21
GIGANTORthis other guy bugged out on me because i got errors while trying to compile due to incompatible compilers, etc09:21
thoreauputicxylus: run sudo sensors-detect09:21
GIGANTORbut, i have that sorted now09:21
Ignite_it does take hours to compile09:22
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GIGANTORi just don't remember the commands he was putting in to compile09:22
xylusok ill try tho09:22
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Ignite_ugh, no fix for libxine?09:22
locoblade2the libxine extracodecs install says it has no installation candidate09:22
gabriel1hey whers timi?09:22
Ignite_libxine-extracodecs09:22
GIGANTORi've got about 4 hours to kill  ;P09:22
gnomefreaklocoblade2: enable multiverse repo09:22
GIGANTORif i could just get started on it09:22
xylusNo i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.09:22
locoblade2it's not available, but is referred to by another package09:22
thoreauputicGIGANTOR: compling KDE to change some font colours is the most absurd idea I've heard for a long time ;)09:23
locoblade2ok09:23
gnomefreakGIGANTOR: try longer09:23
GIGANTORLOL09:23
locoblade2thats probably my problem then09:23
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GIGANTORi live on the edge, what can i say09:23
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xylusshould i type that address in my address bar? No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.09:23
gatekeeperlocoblade, you need to enable the correct repos in /etc/apt/sources.list09:24
gabriel1hey whers timi?09:24
GIGANTORwell, alternatively, can anyone suggest a program that takes the taskbar's place, that does allow font color changes?09:24
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thoreauputicxylus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278009:24
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noxshow to run .jnlp files?09:25
noxssun java re 1.5 is installed already09:25
locoblade2just out of interest whats a good samba browser?09:25
thoreauputicwhat on earth is a .jnlp file ?09:25
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Mezlocoblade2, konqueror will browse samba quite well09:25
locoblade2oh cool09:25
gnomefreakim gonna assume a photo/java09:25
locoblade2do i have to set up samba through the command line09:26
gnomefreakor video,java09:26
Mezthoreauputic, something to do with java server09:26
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Mezlocoblade2, to serve yes - to browse, no09:26
thoreauputicMez: hmm - OK thanks :)09:26
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locoblade2i mean as a samba client09:26
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locoblade2well i want to browse a windows network09:27
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Mezlocoblade2, i believe mine worked straight out of the box09:27
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locoblade2ok09:28
locoblade2but if i want to set up workgroups etc09:28
Mezlocoblade2, alt+f2 -> remote: -> samba09:28
locoblade2where do i di that?09:28
Mezand it should then let you browse any workgroup on the network09:28
locoblade2alt f2 gets me a run command box09:29
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Mezlocoblade2, yeah - in there type (without the quotes) "remote:"09:30
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locoblade2could not run the specific command09:30
pete____where is the reposities file located cant remember09:30
pete____!repos09:30
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:30
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thoreauputicpete____:  /etc/apt/sources.list  ?09:31
pete____thoreauputic: thanks09:31
locoblade2thats what i have theor09:31
Lord_Athurwhat's the name of the kde menu? does it have a special name?=09:31
scabootsscahas anyone gotten yahoo music videos to work in kubuntu?09:31
locoblade2mez any idea why remote: doesnt work?09:31
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thoreauputiclocoblade: in konqueror try   remote:/09:32
thoreauputicnote the slash09:32
locoblade2ok09:32
locoblade2ok remote with the slash works in the command box09:32
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thoreauputicright09:33
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thoreauputicor in konq ( same thing really)09:33
locoblade2yeah09:33
locoblade2i have 4 icons09:33
locoblade2bluetooth network services, samba shares and add a network folder09:34
pete____whats tha firewall front end is it called firestarterR?09:34
pete____firestarter09:34
pete____?09:34
MezSamba shares would be the one you're looking for locoblade209:34
thoreauputicpete____: yes, or the KDE one is guarddog09:34
locoblade2i tought i tried that already09:34
locoblade2ill have another look09:34
locoblade2cool it works09:35
locoblade2now if i want to create a shortcut to that on the desktop how do i do that?09:35
acojloanyone who have expertise in S3 (to ram)?09:36
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locoblade2well i suppose i could type smb:/ into the alt f2 thing09:36
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Mezlocoblade2, just drag and drop :P09:37
locoblade2that makes me feel dumb for not trying that09:37
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Mezlol locoblade2, no need to feel dumb :P we all have bad days09:39
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Ace2006Anyone know a good font site with fonts i can use in kubuntu?09:40
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locoblade2im thrilled though im making great progress here09:41
acojloyour windows dir :)09:41
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locoblade2so is there a way i can change the icon of that link ive created?09:42
Agiosproperties09:43
locoblade2yep09:43
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locoblade2i had a look but couldnt see09:43
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locoblade2ohh09:43
Agiosright click the icon, select properties09:43
locoblade2just click the icon09:43
locoblade2i got it09:44
Agiosclick the icon there, select any icon you want09:44
locoblade2like a mac09:44
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bigfoot1the login screen is currently set to DVORAK layout. How can i make it QWERY keyboard layout?09:45
locoblade2oh i have another question09:46
locoblade2wireless networks09:46
locoblade2whats a broadcast address09:46
locoblade2first time ive ever been asked for one is kubuntu09:46
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RivelinoHi THC09:46
KaiHanarilocoblade2, the same thing as a broadcast address in a wired network09:46
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locoblade2it relates to the subnet mask IIRC09:47
KaiHanariurd09:47
KaiHanari*yes09:47
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KaiHanariusually 255.255.255.0   but it can vary09:47
locoblade2thats my subnet mask09:48
gretch68hi everyone09:48
locoblade2is the broadcast one the same?09:48
locoblade2suppose there's no harm in trying09:48
KaiHanarioh wait09:48
KaiHanarijust a sec09:48
rr72bcast is usually whateber.25509:48
TheHighChildhey Rivelino09:48
KaiHanariyea09:48
locoblade2it's the complement of that09:48
aliasfredlocoblade2: it is the address which allows you to address all the hosts on a network09:48
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uniqlocoblade2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_address09:48
rr72like 192.168.15509:49
KaiHanarilocoblade2, what rr72 said, its your ip address except the last number is 25509:49
rr72like 192.168.0.25509:49
locoblade2yeah i had a look at that09:49
uniqkaihanari: that is not always the case.09:49
KaiHanarisorry, stuffing my face, not in the right mindset :P09:49
aliasfredlocoblade2: what is the address/prefix of your network ?09:49
locoblade2ok so my ip address is 192.168.1.x09:49
locoblade2my broadcast address is 192.168.1.25509:49
KaiHanariuniq, but it is theirs, they said their subnet mask is 255.255.255.009:49
KaiHanarilocoblade2, yes09:49
locoblade2cool09:50
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uniqkaihanari: yes. if given the example above, you're right.09:50
rr72locoblade2~ what are u trying to do?09:50
locoblade2set up this computer on wireless09:50
CntryboyDoes anyone know anything about yahoo and voice for linux and has tried it?09:50
locoblade2im probably driving you guys nuts but believe me this is a great help09:50
locoblade2im very greateful09:51
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rr72locoblade2~ i just rezzed my computer from a signal 11 error09:52
slow-motionbbl09:52
rr72simple export cmd saved me09:52
locoblade2o.O09:52
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KaiHanarilocoblade2, if anything it refreshes peoples memories :P like mine... and i deal  with the fancier broadcast addresses everyday :/09:53
rr72i installed new driver for nvidia and gcc versions were conflicting09:53
locoblade2well if it helps then im glad lol09:53
matttttttwhat type of file system should i make the partition for kubuntu?09:53
locoblade2i can keep going lol09:53
exobuzzmattttttt: ext3 ?09:53
acojlodo I need firewall software on kubuntu?09:54
aliasfredmattttttt: yep ext3 is a good choise09:54
matttttttthanks09:54
gatekeeperacojlo, you have it by default iptables09:54
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locoblade2ok im getting round to this xine extracodecs thing09:55
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locoblade2i need to "unlock" multiuniverse is it?09:55
acojlowell, if I recompile kernel? Iptables are part of kernel?09:55
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locoblade2all there is in sources.list is universe and backports09:55
exobuzzacojlo: yes.09:55
locoblade2as far as I can see09:56
exobuzzlocoblade2: just add multiverse after universe09:56
locoblade2ok09:56
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acojloexobuzz, thanks. So, firewalls are only a option for servers09:56
mattttttti need to make two partitions? one root and one swap?09:56
locoblade2same 2 lines with multiverse where universe was?09:56
acojloand make those partions of primary type09:56
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exobuzzacojlo: no.. you can easily setup a firewall with iptables.. a few simple rules to disallow incoming connectionds for example09:57
exobuzzacojlo: if have a script in /network/interfaces/if-preup.d/ which sets up a few iptables rules09:57
exobuzzlocoblade2: same line.. after universe add " multiverse"09:58
gabriel1timi is he here?09:58
uniqacojlo: i recommend taking a look at a application named 'guarddog'. You can download it from the repositories with the Adept package manager.09:58
locoblade2ok09:58
exobuzzdeb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:58
exobuzzfor example09:58
exobuzzdeb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse09:58
locoblade2and whats the command I need to type in again to update the packages or whatever it was09:58
uniqacojlo: guarddog is a grapical application to make iptables firewall rules.09:58
exobuzzis a better example.. apt-get update09:58
exobuzzor use aptitude/dselect09:58
locoblade2ok09:58
exobuzzi have a question of my own. but i bet i dont get an answer :)09:59
h3sp4wnI suppose for a firewall it wouldnt be that hard to install one of the firewall distributions under usermode linux and use taps to force all the traffic through it09:59
acojlook10:00
exobuzzAs ubuntu uses evms, why does the installer not utilise evms to setup/manage volumes ? Also: I boot from a raid-1 array. I set it up from the installer, but changed grub to boot from /dev/evms/md/md0 instead of /dev/md0. that worked so I guess evms is in the initrd. however after switching to evms (and changing the fstab line to evms too), i get an error on booting (minor script syntax error - tells me some script is missing a semi-colo10:00
exobuzzd it seems to be in the initrd stage). any comments ?10:00
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exobuzzis kubuntu supposed to have initrd support for evms. is it tested. does anyone else use it / boot from an evms volume ?10:01
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hoiI login as User: hoi. but I recieve a window.popup everytime I login." kdesu -u test -- katapult -session 10d9d39668000112680660600000081280032_1134662244_732871". It asks me for a password10:02
thoreauputicdon't know anything about evms but ubuntu kernels use initramfs IIRC10:02
Ace2006Anyone know the effect of adding ~260 fonts to KDE?10:02
uniqexobuzz: why do you use /dev/evms/md/md0 instead of /dev/md0 ?10:02
exobuzzthoreauputic: yup. and they seem to have support for evms in them. although i get some small script bug when booting from evms volume10:02
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rr72Ace2006~ u will have 206 more fonts to chose from?10:02
exobuzzuniq: so I can manage the volume better from evms and so evms takes care of things ?10:03
acojloand what's that initrd story - I can boot without initrd (ramfs)10:03
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thoreauputicexobuzz: I would try asking on the ubuntu-users list - there will be more people there who know about evms10:03
exobuzzthoreauputic: ok :)10:03
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Ace2006rr72: How much of a slow down will there be?10:03
uniqexobuzz: does it matter for grub?10:03
rr72idk, i was making a funny10:03
exobuzzit just seems strange to me that ubuntu uses evms, yet the installer does not use it ?!?10:03
exobuzzuniq: it works either way. if you boot from evms, then evms takes control. for example i would get a message from evms about a disk missing if i removed one from array.10:04
acojlowhat are the benefits of efi lilo?10:04
Ace2006Ok make that ~1000 there is about 755 my System folder and i added ~260 to the personal section10:04
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exobuzzacojlo: booting from a machine which has efi rather than a bios :-)10:05
Hikaru79Hello, everyone :)10:05
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Hikaru79Are the apt repositories hella slow for anyone else today?10:05
thoreauputicHikaru79: yes10:05
uniqexobuzz: is the change from /dev/md0 to /dev/evms/md/md0 needed to make that work?10:05
Hikaru79I'm getting ~40 kbps where usually I would get about 400.10:05
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exobuzzacojlo: for example an intel mac mini... (without using the boot camp legacy bios emulation)10:05
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Hikaru79Oh, okay. So there's nothing wrong with the new install.10:05
Hikaru79Thanks, thoreauputic =)10:05
thoreauputicHikaru79: there was a blackout a few days ago - I think they are doing some maintenance10:05
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Hikaru79Ah, I see.10:06
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Hikaru79So a few days ago, there were no apt repositories at all?10:06
exobuzzuniq: well. if i dont use it as evms volume, the md driver handles it, and I couldnt manage it from within evms properly (i think).. (my memory)] 10:06
thoreauputicHikaru79: for a while10:06
Hikaru79Whew, glad I missed that ^ ^;10:06
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thoreauputicHikaru79: although I guess mirrors were still OK10:06
exobuzzuniq: although to be honest, i just need to understyand the differences and interactions between using it as evms or not. there is little documentation on this. I dont like not understanding how things work :-)10:07
thoreauputicHikaru79:  security.ubuntu.com was giving me only 18 Kb/sec a while ago ( a few hours)10:07
pichihello10:07
Hikaru79Well, thanks for putting my mind at ease, thoreau :)10:07
Hikaru79Time to reboot into the new kernel.10:07
thoreauputicHikaru79: no worries :)10:07
Ace2006Anyone know of a font manager which will show them all and allow me to +fav some?10:07
uniqexobuzz: as they have the same major & minor numbers i would guess it doesn't matter.10:08
exobuzzuniq: i guess :-)10:08
exobuzzthe only noticable difference, is the warnings from evms on disk removal. with the md driver, you would have to tell it to mail you or something specifically i guess10:08
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acojloby default, if I run no server, just clients like Konversation, web browser etc. ... is Kubuntu safe?10:09
exobuzzi think i still need to use mdadm to email me if a disk is no longer in the array though. im not sure evms will do that.10:09
uniqacojlo: yes.10:09
exobuzzalthough smartmontools will email me if a disk fails. so i guess i can use that10:09
uniqacojlo: if you install security updates regularily.10:09
acojlook - this topic - security - was a little bit confusing for me - because I read you have iptables, but some sites sugested to install firewall not mentioning iptables. It is just confusing if you enter the jungle of linux :)10:11
acojloit's jungle because I'm new10:11
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Tommy2k4`my / partition is too small again -__-10:12
Tommy2k4`i resized it yesterday and im sure i made it bigger than what it is =/10:12
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acojlo:)10:12
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xylusok i installed lm sensors but it says i should have i2c installed10:14
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xylusi follow the tut exactley10:14
xylusbut im suck on the last part for updateing the sensors10:14
uniqacojlo: the thing is, the firewall feature is included in kubuntu. it's named iptables. However you don't have any rules by default. So, to use it for anything usefull you'll have to make firewall rules. What people often refer to as 'install a firewall' is actually 'make some rules', or 'install a helper program to make firewall rules'.10:14
trappistacojlo: the kernel filters packets, and the section of kernel code that does that is called netfilter.  iptables is a userspace program that just sends rules to the kernel's netfilter code.  things like guarddog are frontends to iptables that make it easier to configure a firewall.10:14
xylusi figure its because i dont have i2c10:15
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acojlofinaly - trappist and uniq - you are the true wisdom in linux country :)10:16
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neomIs there a kubuntu liveCD that will work on my MacBook?10:18
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acojlobut kernel config says fot net filter - you don't need it if you run a normal host10:20
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timi_hello10:20
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byakguananyone there10:20
byakguanhelllo10:21
byakguanhelp someone reply10:21
exobuzzreply to what ?10:21
exobuzzyou didnt ask anything10:21
byakguanaright10:21
acojlo:)10:21
byakguanwell it wasnt shwoing any convo at all10:22
byakguanand this thing is like never evr dead os i figured it was messed up10:22
exobuzzbecause in the 5 seconds you gave it, noone wrote anything10:22
exobuzz:-)10:22
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timi_no ive been on 4 or five times10:22
timi_and it wasnt working10:22
exobuzzmaybe you are right.a ctually i can't see what you are writing..10:22
exobuzzhello ? :-)10:22
timi_ haha10:23
timi_anbody get there widgets to load correctly w/o superkaramab thing poppin up10:23
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kalindaHello, all.. I need Samba help >_<10:24
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mattttttthow do i choose which partition i want to  boot from?10:26
kalindain your fstab, probably10:27
kalindathat is, Linux automatically boots from the / partition10:27
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mattttttti have XP in one partition, then i have kubuntu in another10:27
matttttttin theory....10:28
mattttttt>_<10:28
exobuzzthen you need a bootloader.. you can use grub on the mbr to boot both os's. or install lilo/grub on the linux partition, and use a mbr boot manager to choose10:28
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exobuzzlilo on the mbr can also boot both os's10:28
mattttttti have no clue what that means...10:29
matttttttgoogle time10:29
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edward_fare multipart-rars automatically joined/extracted by selecting them and clicking 'extract here'?10:29
exobuzzedward_f: with what software ? with ark ?10:29
exobuzzyes10:29
edward_fark and unrar10:29
exobuzzyes10:30
xyluscan anyone tell me what htis means Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source10:30
xyluswhere do i find the im-sensors source at10:30
heinkel_111_mattttttt: if i recall correctly, you define which partition shall be bootable and which shall have prioprity at install time, when you partitions the harddisk10:30
neomAm I to presume there is no kubuntu liveCD that will work on my MacBook?10:30
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edward_fexobuzz: thx10:30
exobuzzneom: no.. there is..10:30
exobuzzneom: search on google for mactel linux10:30
xylusagain can anyone tell me where the lm sensors source is?10:30
neomtnx!10:30
alkalinexcomposition manager crashed twice within a minute?10:31
xylusich this program is the biggest hastle in the world to install10:31
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exobuzzoh wait.. macbook is intel or ppc ?10:31
xylusive done every step and it still dosent work or make sence10:31
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alkalinexxylus, im feeling the same way about the whole of kubuntu10:32
exobuzzmactel is for intel. i dont know about ppc live cd..10:32
kameronkthe macbook is intel, powerbook is powerpc10:32
exobuzzok10:32
xyluslol alk kubuntu isent so bad10:32
exobuzzmy mac mini ppc runs debian.. :)10:32
xylussome of it is bleh10:32
xylusbut for the most part once u get the hang of apt10:32
kameronki dont think that any version of linux easily runs on the intel macs10:32
exobuzzand my mac mini intel runs debian. sorry :)10:32
xylusyou got it coverd10:32
timi_anbody know to change their bootpslash10:32
xylusyeah timi10:33
xylusgo to run and type in kconfig10:33
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xylus;)10:33
alkalinexapt-get install firefox... then ff crashes.. FUN!10:33
xylusalk10:33
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xylusyou need to type apt-get install mozilla i think10:33
xylusor just try add remove programs10:33
xylusand find it in their10:33
timi_kconfig doesnt exists10:33
exobuzzKameronk. there are some kernel patches to make it work,. with simple framebuffer. not tried ati. think you need to run in bootcamp mode for ati drivers. but then there are other issues10:33
xylushold on timi jsut a sec10:33
exobuzzlike machine not booting without monitor connected (on my intel mac mini).10:33
xylussry its run kcontroll10:33
kameronko ok, thank you exobuzz10:33
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darrylhello10:34
xylusyoull find splash editor in their ;)10:34
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xyluscan anyone help me install my lm sensors ive done every step10:34
xylusin the tut10:34
exobuzzkameronk: if you install bootcamp you can boot the standard i386 kubuntu live cd10:34
xylusand i still cant figure this out10:34
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timi_yeah xylus thats splash not bootsplash10:34
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kameronkreally? i had read somewhere that it didn't work...10:34
xylusoh u wana change the boot splash no clue :(10:34
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exobuzzkameronk: that might be easier. otherwise you have to boot from efi to a hfs+ partition. you would need to "bless" the bootloader also. its quite a pain.. the bootcamp method is a bit easier10:34
kameronko ok10:35
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timi_hey how can i get it to not remember the desktop10:35
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timi_so when i log in its just blank10:35
BluesKaj!easyubuntu10:35
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ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.10:35
exobuzzkameronk: i got it working im sure.. only problem i wanted my machine as a server, and it wouldnt boot without monitor in bootcamp mode. in the end i went for an efi boot. more complicated but works without monitor.. guess the bootcamp bios emu code feezes waiting for monitor ddc info ?10:35
Lunar_Raven!azureus10:35
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo10:35
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kameronkexobuzz: is there support in the kernel for the camera and wifi/bluetooth?10:36
timi_who was that easy ubuto towards10:36
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exobuzzkameronk: join the mactel mailinglist. best place for answers about that..10:36
kameronkthank you10:36
kameronkwhat is the link?10:36
exobuzzhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users10:36
kameronk thanks10:36
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exobuzzinfo on the wiki too http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page10:37
timi_hey anyone know how i cant get kubunut to not remember session and just log off10:37
GraytoothI just received some Live CDs. Has anyone had any problems using them?10:37
timi_graytooth, no10:37
exobuzzGraytooth: they worked fine when i used them.. although i used them as coasters10:37
exobuzz:-)10:37
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timi_me says yes10:37
timi_me/ says10:37
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GraytoothI see.10:38
GraytoothIs there any way of using the Live CD just to install Dapper? Maybe I don't have enough memory.10:38
exobuzzyou can install from the livecd sure. in fact its maybe the easiest way for new users ?10:38
exobuzzalthough i prefer the alternative install cd..10:39
exobuzzhow much memory do you have. and what do you want to run ?10:39
GraytoothBut I cannot even get anything to work in the live cd. I have over 275 MBs. I know that much. My laptop is only two years old.10:39
timi_hrrm10:40
timi_install in safe graphicall mode10:40
aliasfredit smells like boot option to set :)10:40
alkalinexi downloaded the dapper DVD.. the installer uses the livecd shit10:40
timi_you probably have have a noon standard resolution and it hangs at k10:40
timi_Graytooth try  intsall in safe graphical mode10:40
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GraytoothI'm running the livecd right now on my Dell Inspiron 5100. It is like watching molasses drip out of a flask.10:40
GraytoothI'll try that.10:41
timi_graytooth im using dell e1505 i had troubles until i tried safe graphics mode10:41
alkalinexbtw, is it normal for an installation to take <5 mins?10:42
timi_no10:42
BluesKajKubuntu also comes up in lo res on first login, 640x480 or some such silly thing , who dreamed that up anyway?10:42
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timi_it doest always do that blues10:42
alkalinex:\10:42
timi_my first lgoin was 1025x76810:42
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admiral_proFTWwhat is the umask command for all users?10:43
timi_any one have kbootsplash10:43
jacklewhat is the root password for the 6.06 kubuntu live cd/install disc?10:43
BlaiddI was wondering if someone might have a second to answer a question or two of mine.  I'm looking for the bttv config file in breezey, but haven't been able to find it10:43
BluesKajI have an old monitor but it's prolly my run of the ati video that causes it10:43
admiral_proFTWI'm editing an fstab and I know think I have to write umask=0255 but u;m not sure10:43
admiral_proFTWjackle there isnt one10:44
alkalinex!eyecandy10:44
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy10:44
admiral_proFTW!umask10:44
ubotuI know nothing about umask - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:44
admiral_proFTW!fstab10:44
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions10:44
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alkalinexok, so i apt-get install firefox... why does it crash?10:46
draikalkalinex, it's 'apt-get install mozilla-firefox'10:46
alkalinexoh ok10:46
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alkalinexand what about this error i get "Composition manager has crashed twice within a minute"10:47
alkalinex?10:47
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Tommy2k4`can i safely uninstall kmail10:48
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acojlo_is it normal for X to take 10-15 seconds to show KDM login?10:49
Blaiddcan anyone point me towards the bttv config file?10:49
StardogWhy cant I view(or preview) .jpg images in Konqueror or standard imageviewer program for kubuntu?10:50
iradioenterprise volume management system is crashing on a glibc error on bootup. How can I fix?10:50
acojlo_someone is thinking right now :)10:50
z00mwhats the best version to stay with kubuntu amd64 or the i386 version ?\10:50
z00mis the amd64 more secure ?10:51
unstablesobanyone know why i would suddenly be getting "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!" when trying to install subversion?10:51
StardogWhy cant I view(or preview) .jpg images in Konqueror or standard imageviewer program for kubuntu?10:52
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aliasfredwhy life is so cruel10:53
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timi_you anyone have a program that allows them to change their bootsplashes10:53
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timi_ive heard of kbootsplahs but i tried to compile it and there wasnt a "proper c compiler"10:53
timi_or something10:53
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Stardogi cant view .jpg files and some .png files... what's wrong?10:54
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Stardogdraik: yes... i cant even preview them in Konqueror....10:56
CntryboyI have a dir on the desktop that won't let me delete, I'm typing sudo rm (dir) and it gives a error can't remove : is a dir10:56
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Frederickfolks my kde bar just dissapeared what can I do to recover it?10:57
secleinteertimi_: you can change this in system settings10:57
teknoprepright click the file... open with .. your favorite viewer10:57
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draikCntryboy, the command is 'sudo rm -r (dir)'10:57
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JesperShey guys10:57
draikStardog, What error do you get if you try to open it through an application, rather than clicking on the picture file?10:58
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JesperSI would appreciate some help with Cedega, more specifically World of Warcraft installation10:58
HawkwindJesperS: Why not ask in #Cedega or #WineHQ where the experts on that stuff are10:59
draikCntryboy, did that work for you?10:59
Stardogdraik: well... i think I've found out some information.... when i open them, its just blank.... no errorrmsg... but when i look at the properties, every picture i cant open is at 0 bytes....11:00
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noxsdoes someone know a game like counterstrike for linux?11:03
Stardognoxs: unreal turnament :p11:04
noxsfree?11:04
Cntryboyok back11:04
draiknoxs, no, it's not free11:04
Stardognoxs: demo yes11:04
Cntryboydraik: did what work11:04
timi_does anyone know how i can get aero to read my yahoo webmail account11:04
noxswhere to get?11:04
draikCntryboy, the command is 'sudo rm -r (dir)'11:04
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Frederickfolks my kde menubar dissapeared any ideas?11:05
draikCntryboy, for removing the directory11:05
BluesKajwann a play games ...get an xbox !11:05
Cntryboylet me try11:05
Cntryboywhat does -r mean11:05
Cntryboyso I can remember for later uses11:05
Stardognoxs: just search for their homepage in google, and you'll find the demo, with linuxinstall11:05
Cntryboyand yes it works11:05
Cntryboythx :)11:05
BlankBCntryboy: -r = recursive11:05
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Stardognoxs: i think Quake also works on linux11:05
Cntryboywhats recursive mean lol11:05
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Frederickfolks anyoneelse having problems with kde menubar?11:09
Frederickmmyne refuses to show up11:09
Blissexa guy called <Frederick> apparently does :-)11:09
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|lostbyte|Frederick, At all ?11:10
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BlissexFrederick: it has happened to me some time ago, it usually happens on incomplete updates when things get messed up.11:10
Stardogis Krita the same as Gimp ?11:10
acojlo_is there something like #acpi channel ? or powersuspending ?11:10
timi_!krita11:10
ubotuI know nothing about krita - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:10
FrederickBlissex: when I didn't update sincesometime so it shouldn't happen11:11
Frederickhow can I fix it?11:11
BlissexFrederick: however, just to try things, run 'kwrapper kicker' and check what happens11:11
Blissexacojlo_: 'krita' is good, but not as powerful as Gimp.11:11
Blissexacojlo_: try #KDE11:11
Blissexacojlo_: oooops sorry11:11
acojlo_ok :)11:11
Frederickit reports to be already running11:11
Blissexacojlo_: there is probably a #suspend channel somewhere11:11
Blissexacojlo_: there is a searchable list of channels... wait for the URL11:12
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acojlook11:12
|lostbyte|Frederick, or do what i do.... rm .kde/share/apps/kicker/ -rfv11:12
FrederickBlissex: how can I run the updates?11:12
|lostbyte|Frederick, and the run kicker..11:12
|lostbyte|then*11:12
Blissexacojlo: check this for the section on how to find a channel: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html11:13
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Blissex|lostbyte|: a bit extreme, but probably works. however VERY IMPORTANT note: always put the options BEFORE the arguments to which they apply.11:13
|lostbyte|Blissex, resone ?11:14
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Blissex|lostbyte|: most commands scan the argument list left to right.11:14
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FrederickHotwire: it pops and dissapear11:14
acojlopersonal support bitch :)))))))))))))))11:14
acojlothanks blissex11:15
|lostbyte|Blissex, i simply gotten used to the ones that don'nt. anyways tx for the note. i'd keep it11:15
secleinteeracojlo: no need for profanity here11:15
acojlono, it's quote from url provided by blissex11:15
Blissex|lostbyte|: anyhow really really assume that the scan is left to right.11:15
HotwireFrederick, i assume you missed tabbed my name11:15
secleinteercensor it or something11:15
secleinteerjust try and stay away from that11:16
FrederickHotwire: sorry11:16
acojloquote : "Help is provided by the channel, not by anybody in particular. Don't assume anybody is there to be your personal support bitch."11:16
acojlook ok. I read it now11:16
HotwireFrederick, not worry, i was just a little confused for a second :)11:16
exobuzzis bitch offensive? I've been calling my gf that for years. damn!11:17
exobuzz:)11:17
acojlo:))11:17
secleinteercould you just stop saying it on the public channel?11:17
exobuzzI only wrote it. but ok :-)11:18
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secleinteeri'm trying to tell you b4 a mod kickbans you for it11:18
|lostbyte|Blissex, weird.. though. if i want to rmove a file that is names "rfv".11:18
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|lostbyte|named*11:18
Frederickoki I'm updating all apps11:19
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Frederickstill in despair11:19
xaviwolas a tod@s11:19
exobuzzwhat ever you do, don't mention the war..11:19
BluesKajexobuzz, the chat rules here tend to be a bit straight laced11:19
exobuzzill be good11:20
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BluesKaji was chastized using the F word in frustration a while back :)11:20
exobuzzyeh. fedora is a nasty word!11:20
secleinteer:-)11:20
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Frederickdammm no ideas for me?11:21
exobuzzFrederick: i missed your problem.. what was it ?11:21
exobuzzFrederick: i have a scrollback buffer, but that would require using the mouse, and my eyes. enither of which work very well..11:21
Frederickexobuzz: kde menu bar dissapeared without apparent reason11:21
exobuzzthe kicker at the bottom of the screen (normally) ?11:22
Frederickyes11:22
exobuzzand when you restart kde ?11:22
FrederickIve killed and called it again11:22
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Frederickremoved its files11:22
Frederickand run it again11:22
exobuzzyou removed its files ?11:22
Frederickexobuzz: Ive tried it too11:22
Frederickexobuzz: it's config files from my profile11:22
exobuzzand it doesnt appear when you statr kde ?11:23
exobuzzstart11:23
Frederickit appeares and then disappear11:23
exobuzzhmm11:23
Fredericklike if it where minimized to out of screen11:23
exobuzzoh11:23
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exobuzzyou deleted11:24
exobuzz.kde/share/config/kickerrc11:24
exobuzz.kde/share/apps/kicker11:24
exobuzz?11:24
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exobuzz(from your home dir)11:24
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BluesKajis the kicker logo still in the panel, Frederick?11:25
Fredericknope11:25
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BluesKajwhat's in the corner where the K-menu should be ?11:27
Fredericknothing the whole bar dissapeared11:27
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unstablesob_ok, I'm running kubuntu on an ibook and KDE is frozen. My mouse works but nothing else. How do I kill X on a ibook keyboard?11:27
exobuzzis kicker running (ps uax | grep "kicker") ?11:28
Frederickunstablesob_: ctrl + bacxkspace11:28
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unstablesob_I can't get to a ocmmand line11:28
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Frederick1000      4850  0.6  5.4  31852 14076 pts/2    S    18:14   0:05 kicker11:29
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unstablesob_Frederick: my backspace is labeled "delete", so I'm unsure if that counts, but I tried Ctrl+Delete, Command+Delete, Fn+Ctrl+Delete, and Fn+Command+Delete, any other suggestions?11:29
exobuzzand you are sure kicker is not just minimised (small rectangle at corner of screen with arrow) ?11:29
Frederickexobuzz: yep i'm ive checked it also changed screen resolution to be 100% sure11:30
BluesKajright click in the desktop ,click on the run cmd an type panel in the dialogbox and the panel option should come upoptions11:31
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FrederickBluesKaj: ?11:31
Frederickit pps and fades11:32
Frederickpops11:32
BluesKajbummer11:32
Frederick?11:32
Frederickhow do I open it in verbose mode11:32
Frederick?11:32
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intelikey>> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.11:33
intelikey>>11:33
intelikey>> You must install ncurses-devel in order11:33
intelikeyE: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel11:34
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intelikeyQ, can the default *buntu dapper installation build the kernel source ?11:36
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intelikeyon special gcc version required ?11:36
intelikeyglibc  ???11:36
xylusdoes anyone know of a good fserv irc cliant for linux ??11:37
xylusi would verrymuch like someone to refer me to a good script and cliant plz11:38
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intelikeyfserv ?11:38
xylusyeah file hosting11:38
xylusfservs as in shareing via irc11:38
Frederickoki so what can I do?11:39
xylusalittle msg pops up displaying my fserv information and people can type it in and download my stuff11:39
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xylusnoone knows of a good fserv irc script for linux?11:39
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intelikeyidk   google.com/linux  search is supposed to search for linux related pages   and sourceforge.net search might be more productive.11:40
xylusallrighty11:40
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Frederickhow do I open that big menu kde has?11:40
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Frederickthe one with all system options11:40
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trappistkcontrol?11:41
intelikeykcontrol ?11:41
intelikeyi said it first,  i'm just lagging....11:41
intelikey:)11:41
trappistsuuuuure11:42
intelikey<intelikey> kcontrol ?11:42
Frederickwell I gtg I wil lgrok it later11:42
intelikey<trappist> kcontrol?11:42
intelikey<intelikey> i said it first,  i'm just lagging....11:42
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Frederickthanks folks11:42
gatekeeperintelikey: there are howto's to build kernels in the ubuntu forums11:42
intelikeygatekeeper but are any special gcc or glibc versions needed ?11:43
gatekeeperintelikey: never tried it sorry I wouldn't know11:44
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intelikeyforums are unreachable atm  for me.   no ssl support.11:44
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timidamn11:44
intelikeyk thanks for the input just the same.11:44
mark___ok im trying to install some stuff using apt-get11:45
mark___and i get an error message dpkg was interrupted11:45
timiim trying to compile something but i have no gcc, no cc, cl11:45
intelikeytimi build-essential11:45
timiand here is no acceptable compiler in $Path11:45
timiido that in the same directory?11:46
gatekeeperintelikey: ubuntu forums have just come up for me, quickly too, as for gcc, I would just use the latest version in the package manager, should do the job11:46
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intelikey!build-essential > timi11:46
trappisttimi: sudo apt-get install build-essential11:46
intelikeygatekeeper k ty.11:46
gatekeeperintelikey: yw for what it's worth :-)11:47
timithanks11:47
gatekeepertimi: some distros install gcc by default, (k)ubuntu doesn't11:48
acojlomy keyboard was dead after "sudo biosdecode and password"11:48
acojlojust synaptics worked11:48
timii trid to compile again and it got way farther but it cant find X includes11:49
timido i have to apt get taht or would it be something in teh directory11:49
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draiktimi, have you done ./configure yet?11:49
timiyeah thats the last thing it says when i run that command11:50
draikwhat is the file"\11:50
draikfile?11:50
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timithe file11:50
timiim trying to compile a program11:51
draikright... you said it couldn't find something11:51
draikwas it a file?11:51
intelikeytimi  xorg-dev - the X.Org development libraries11:51
timiok im figuring i need apt get that or adept it or something11:51
intelikeyyep11:52
draikright11:52
timiok is this right then11:52
timisudo apt-get install xorg-dev11:52
intelikeyyep11:52
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GIGANTORdo macs have a command line?11:53
draiktimi, yet11:53
draiktimi, yes11:53
timithnks11:53
draiknp11:53
intelikeysystem call auditing support in the kernel, good or bad ?11:54
draikGIGANTOR, I think they do, I don't have any exp with them, but I'm sure they do11:54
intelikeytimi may i ask what you are building ?11:54
timikbootsplahs11:54
timinot it says this11:54
timiQt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries)11:54
timinow* it says11:54
intelikeyqtdev11:54
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timihaha ok thanks11:54
intelikeyapt-cache search is your friend11:55
Tm_TQt 4.2 <311:55
timii tried apt-get install qtdev and it said the cant find packate11:55
draikit's case sensitive...11:56
intelikeyapt-cache search is your friend11:56
draikQtdev11:56
timii tried apt cache search11:56
timilol but i did work11:56
intelikeyapt-cache search dev | grep -ie qt11:57
intelikeyqt4-dev-tools - Qt 4 development tools11:57
GIGANTORwhat in the heck...  i got banned from ubuntu-offtopic for saying "f*cking"11:57
GIGANTORwith the asterick.11:57
GIGANTORblaaah11:57
draikGIGANTOR, why would you even try it?!?!11:57
GIGANTORLOL11:57
intelikeyfsck offtopic11:58
GIGANTORi assumed it was for grown ups, i dunno11:58
intelikeyE; offtopic not a file system.11:58
GIGANTORESRB: online experience may change11:58
gatekeeperthere is a libqt4-dev package11:58
GIGANTORbut i put an astericks...   cmon now..11:58
GIGANTORsomeone go tell em to unban me  =S11:58
draikoh well11:59
GIGANTORi play nice11:59
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draiklol11:59
GIGANTORwhats up with people nowadays11:59
GIGANTORso sensitive11:59
intelikeyGIGANTOR * matches everything.  so the bot sees it as f[A-z,0-9, ,,] cking11:59
GIGANTOReven the president said that...  gah12:00
GIGANTORohhh, so it was some unintelligent life form...12:00
intelikeyno12:00
GIGANTORwell then...12:00
intelikeylife from    hehhe no.12:00
GIGANTORhrmph...  didn't like UBUNTU any dang ways12:01
GIGANTORthats why i went KUBUNTU, probably12:01
draik!wall12:01
ubotuI know nothing about wall - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:01
intelikeywarn all  ?12:01
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Dasnipa`GIGANTOR, kubuntu and ubuntu are the same project essentially... doesnt make sense to say you dont like ubuntu and say you like kubuntu... the only thing that would fit there would be for you to say you dont like gnome and like KDE12:02
acojlowhat does it mean (pam_unix) in authentication log?12:02
BlaiddI was wondering if someone might have a second to answer a question or two of mine.  I'm looking for the bttv config file in breezey, but haven't been able to find it12:02
intelikeyDasnipa` is it ok to say i don't like *buntu then  :)12:03
timii used adept and installed libqt4-dev12:03
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timibut i still get this12:03
timi error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!12:03
draikGIGANTOR, why not split your words into things that go together... like sofa king12:04
timidoes that men i shoud install qt 3 or something12:04
draikyes timi12:04
intelikeytimi i tried to teach you how to find it.12:04
intelikeylibqt3-headers - Qt3 header files12:04
draiktimi, as long as it's version is between 3.2 and 4.012:04
acojlooh, I have a standard error from the moment I installed Kubuntu in log: kdm_greet : Internal error: memory corruption detected . WHy?12:05
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Blaiddanyone able to help me with bttv?12:05
GIGANTORlol draik12:05
intelikey!info kbootsplash12:06
ubotuPackage kbootsplash does not exist in dapper12:06
draikGIGANTOR, I Am We Todd Did, I Am Sofa King We Todd Did12:06
mehdido you know how i can conf apache2 (ServerName)12:06
timiright so i got past the qt thing12:06
timinow i have no kde headers12:07
intelikeyapt-cache search is your friend12:07
mehdi{#/etc/apache2/??/XX.conf12:07

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