[12:10] <nanaki_> crimsun: ok, submitted and assigned to you, thanks for the help :)
[12:10] <crimsun> nanaki_: np
[12:11] <nanaki_> dinner timeee
[12:14] <jpiccolo> would anyone be willing to try to help me with getting my sound to work
[12:14] <jim__> is there any way to see and extract files from a windows partition through kubuntu, (the machine is dual booted- windows and ubuntu)
[12:15] <jmichaelx> ok i hope this is no offense, but i am going to repost on an issue i am having: has anyone in here ever had a kubuntu install just simply die on them? i bought a new laptop about a month ago, installed kubuntu on it immediately and it has been working great, but i came home from work today, and kubuntu will no longer load..... it acts like kubuntu is loading... the blue kubuntu logo comes up, and it goes through loading all of its stuf
[12:15] <jmichaelx>  it just goes back to the blue logo and stays there. i have a feeling that i am having a problem with X... i installed and ran 955resolution the other day, and even though it ran one time, i think there might be some kind of conflict with it
[12:16] <total_linux_geek> jim__ : sudo mount /(windows partition) /media/windows
[12:16] <total_linux_geek> run mkdir /media/windows first
[12:16] <total_linux_geek> run sudo mkdir /media/windows first
[12:16] <cotroler> Hello people, just installed kubuntu. How do I install NVIDIA drivers pls?
[12:17] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx when it stays at the logo can you get to a command prompt by doing ctrl+alt f1?
[12:17] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: i will check
[12:17] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: yes, i have a command prompt
[12:17] <jpiccolo> controler: goto nvidia.com download the drivers
[12:17] <blueranger> can someone help me: i've got some new errors with dmesg
[12:18] <blueranger> http://rafb.net/paste/results/0xuU9T19.html
[12:18] <blueranger> and i'm getting fatal error: cannot read disk with cfdisk.
[12:18] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx ok now log in and enter your password when your in there do the following command sudo dexconf
[12:18] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx if you config file has gone bad that dexconf command will reset it
[12:19] <Agios> cotroler: apt-get install nvidia-glx, then run nvidia-glx-config, then ctrl-alt-bksp.
[12:19] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: i did that and nothing happened
[12:19] <jmichaelx> ahh
[12:19] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: should i reboot now?
[12:19] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx make sure you reboot after the command lol
[12:19] <wolfmanz> yes
[12:19] <jmichaelx> ok, brb (and thanks to all who have been helping)
[12:20] <wolfmanz> no problem
[12:20] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: why would this have happened?
[12:21] <jmichaelx> i'm sure that is a big question
[12:21] <wolfmanz> no idea but i do know that if the xorg.conf gets screwed up it will hault your booting process i had that happend lastnight when i made a change to that file but i forget to make some other chnages and it wouldnt boot my machine
[12:21] <Bastiq> how do i add a shortcut for xmms? i didnt get one on my menu
[12:21] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: i am crossing my fingers on this
[12:22] <jpiccolo> does kubuntu have glxgears?
[12:22] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: do you think that my having installed 955resolution could have done this?
[12:22] <wolfmanz> i dont know what 955 is lol
[12:23] <jmichaelx> well, it is a bios hack to get vertain laptops to display 1280x800 resolution
[12:23] <total_linux_geek> dude hit esc before grub load
[12:23] <jmichaelx> certain*
[12:23] <wolfmanz> that xserver thing can be a pain though i have had a few issues with it allready
[12:23] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: ok, dexconf did not work
[12:24] <wolfmanz> ok then it could be your hack that you did
[12:24] <wolfmanz> the 955 thing that maybe getting in the way
[12:24] <bunta> Hey folks
[12:24] <jmichaelx> i wonder what i can do at this point
[12:24] <total_linux_geek> press e
[12:24] <bunta> having some problems with installing kde
[12:24] <bunta> Anyone got some time to spare? :P
[12:25] <wolfmanz> jimchaelx you need to talk to DaSkreech when he comes on or abbatoir both of them guys know a fair amount
[12:25] <jmichaelx> ok ty wolfmanz
[12:26] <wolfmanz> if you can uninstall that 955 thing you may want to try that
[12:26] <wolfmanz> can you load the live kubuntu cd up by any chance will that load?
[12:27] <jpiccolo> can anyone help me get nvmixer to work
[12:28] <wolfmanz> jimichaelx can you load the live kubuntu cd up by any chance will that load?
[12:30] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: i could try it in a sec.... total_linux_geekis trying to walk me through some things, brb
[12:30] <wolfmanz> ok
 cotroler: apt-get install nvidia-glx, then run nvidia-glx-config, then ctrl-alt-bksp.
[12:34] <cotroler> i did the first part what now? (im new to linux)
[12:34] <cotroler> how do i run nvidia-glx-config pls?
[12:39] <Agios> cotroler: sudo su -   enter password,  type nvidia-gls-config, do whatever it wants, when doen with that do ctrl-alt-bksp to restart X.
[12:40] <Agios> nvidia-gls-config, sorry
[12:40] <Agios> nvidia-glx-config, my typing sucks
[12:40] <josh__> yeah
[12:40] <Agios> just do what I mean LOL
[12:40] <josh__> i got them working today
[12:41] <josh__> just go to system settings and set the video card driver to nvidia
[12:41] <intelikey> ok what's with the 386 kernels not supporting frame buffering ?
[12:42] <cotroler> /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config called with unknown command:
[12:42] <cotroler> Usage: /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config [enable|disable] 
[12:42] <cotroler> Agios: it tells me:
[12:42] <nanaki_> i've had issues getting nvidia-glx-config enable to work, it claims xorg.conf has been altered and it won't change it
[12:42] <nanaki_> but you don't really need a util to do it
[12:43] <nanaki_> if you have a working xorg.conf, just open it up with sudo and your favorite editor
[12:43] <nanaki_> under the section for your video card, find where it says the driver is nv, and change that to nvidia
[12:43] <nanaki_> then it should use the accelerated driver
[12:43] <cotroler> k brb
[12:43] <cotroler> tnx
[12:44] <hardw1re> YO HO HO, a pirates life for me
[12:44] <nanaki_> no piracy needed here! all the software is free :)
[12:45] <hardw1re> lol
[12:45] <hardw1re> sorry got POTC on me mind
[12:45] <nanaki_> great sequel i thought
[12:45] <Agios> he must have figured it out LOL
[12:45] <josh__> i loaded the nvidia driver from the control panel but i can't do 3d stuff
[12:45] <josh__> do i still have to download the package and install it?
[12:46] <hardw1re> did you do apt-cache search nvidia ?
[12:46] <hardw1re> and then install it?
[12:46] <juztin> question : in gnome, when i plug in a usb storage device, it pops up automatically on my desktop and opens a window to the drive....is there a way to enable something like this in KDE?
[12:46] <josh__> no
[12:46] <nanaki_> for nvidia driver just get the package from the ubuntu repositories and then do what i said above to change the config to use it
[12:46] <josh__> should i do that?
[12:46] <hardw1re> yeah
[12:46] <nanaki_> juztin: i think my kde does that automatically, let's try
[12:47] <hardw1re> and then in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you just change where it says the driver under the gfx device from nv to nvidia
[12:47] <hardw1re> and then umm no i think the latest X11 has already removed/added the modules your suppose to remove
[12:47] <ICXCNIKA> I just received some kubuntu live-cds from the Isle of Man. I can't get them to work. They are rediculously slow.
[12:48] <josh__> i didnt' use xorg
[12:48] <josh__> i used the control panel and set it
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> rr72: hey. Get anywhere with the nvidia drivers?
[12:48] <nanaki_> juztin: yeah i just stuck my usb drive in and kde popped up a window saying it found an unmounted usb drive and asked what i wanted to do, i clicked the option to open it in a window and it mounted it for me and shows the files in konqueror
[12:48] <juztin> nanaki_, mine didn't do it by default for some reason, but i figured it out
[12:48] <nanaki_> oh k
[12:48] <juztin> nanaki_, you gotta go to KControl / Peripherals / and set auto actions :D:D
[12:49] <nanaki_> yeah i hear you can add your own things to that too, i gotta get on that
[12:49] <abattoir> hardw1re: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[12:49] <nanaki_> i remember windows popping up dialogs like that and i always closed them or turned off that auto action stuff completely
[12:49] <nanaki_> but if you can customize the kde ones to do what YOU want, they might actually be useful! :)
[12:49] <hardw1re> oh oh oh meow, chickens, right, whats good to burn a dvd disk with? what software/libs do i need?
[12:49] <ICXCNIKA> Hm. Oh well. At least I can use these cds as coasters.
[12:49] <juztin> nanaki_, me too....but now i have a sweet zodiac pda with removable cards, and i want it to pop up the card when i slide it in the card reader :D
[12:50] <hardw1re> abattoir: i descovered that i need to patch SANE with the HP3900 patch from sourceforge, but it was being a tit when i tried it this afternoon
[12:50] <hardw1re> as the 4070 uses the same chip as the 3900
[12:50] <abattoir> hardw1re: hmmm, because i came across this page and saw hp 4xxx, so thought you might be interested
[12:50] <nanaki_> hardw1re: if you're using kubuntu it comes with k3b which is widely considered one of the best burning packages on linux, it should be easy enough to do what you want using that
[12:51] <ICXCNIKA> The Progress Dialog is as slow as molasses
[12:51] <hardw1re> cheers nanaki_
[12:51] <hardw1re> i'll give it a look at abattoir
[12:51] <abattoir> hardw1re: ok
[12:52] <scabootssca> anyone have dual boot linux and windows xp?
[12:53] <hardw1re> yes
[12:53] <ubuntu> nope
[12:53] <hardw1re> why is linux so much faster at unraring large archives
[12:53] <intelikey> scabootssca lots of folks
[12:53] <josh__> yeah i've dual booted
[12:53] <ubuntu> i dont know, i think linux is quite good tho
[12:54] <scabootssca> i cant get my windows partition to work with grub
[12:54] <josh__> i just hate the driver installations and stuff
[12:54] <ICXCNIKA> Does anyone have the Kubuntu Dapper Drake cds fom the Isle of Man?
[12:54] <scabootssca> what dows you'r boot.lst file say
[12:54] <ICXCNIKA> Are they defective?
[12:54] <hardw1re> no idea
[12:54] <josh__> well make sure u didn't wipe out ur windows partition
[12:54] <hardw1re> i downloaded off of the torrent network
[12:54] <intelikey> i think 14 is the most entries in the boot loader that i have seen
[12:54] <hardw1re> last year i had loads of entries in the boot loader when i was trying to compile my own kernel
[12:55] <scabootssca> it's there whenever i open my case and unplug the linux hd windows starts up
[12:55] <hardw1re> my main pc, which im waiting for new parts on has 0.98TB of hdd space
[12:55] <hardw1re> 4x sata's and 1 ide drive
[12:55] <josh__> what if i select nvidia legacy?
[12:56] <hardw1re> are you using adept or command line console apt-get'ing?
[12:56] <nanaki_> you don't want nvidia legacy unless you have a really old card
[12:57] <hardw1re> sudo apt-get nvidia-glx
[12:57] <nanaki_> (and i mean REALLY old)
[12:57] <josh__> oh its because the MBR is fucked up
[12:57] <josh__> well i have a 7300gs
[12:57] <nanaki_> yeah get the regular one
[12:57] <josh__> and i wanna try 3d stuff
[12:57] <nanaki_> 7000 line is the newest stuff! :)
[12:57] <josh__> could someone do remote assistance or something>?
[12:58] <nanaki_> i've never actually done that i'd probably fuck it up haha
[12:58] <SimAtWork> josh__: don't give people your root password
[12:58] <josh__> k
[12:58] <SimAtWork> josh__: not unless you'rea  total freaking idiot do you do that.
[12:58] <nanaki_> also yeah i'd have to be root to install that, right
[12:58] <josh__> damn
[12:58] <josh__> k well nvidia is pissing me RIGHT off
[12:58] <SimAtWork> josh__: at least after this point.
[12:58] <josh__> at least i have the default nvidia  drivers
[12:58] <SimAtWork> josh__: nvidia is?
[12:59] <josh__> but in the conrtol panel it says NV
[12:59] <josh__> is NV the same?
[12:59] <SimAtWork> josh__: no
[12:59] <SimAtWork> NV is the kernel drivers
[12:59] <SimAtWork> they are ok
[12:59] <nanaki_> nv is the un-accelerated driver for nvidia cards
[12:59] <SimAtWork> but definately not what you want
[12:59] <josh__> yeah, i want normal ones
[12:59] <nanaki_> rite
[12:59] <josh__> for 3d shit
[12:59] <SimAtWork> josh__: use the adept application
[12:59] <nanaki_> in console, do: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:59] <SimAtWork> josh__: serach for nvidia
[12:59] <SimAtWork> install them
[12:59] <josh__> oh ok
[12:59] <scabootssca> can anybody help me?
[12:59] <josh__> i'll try that
[12:59] <SimAtWork> or yah, do the console way
[12:59] <nanaki_> or use adept if you're more comfortable with that to install nvidia-glx
[12:59] <nanaki_> either way does the same
[12:59] <SimAtWork> i assume in #kubuntu you want easy gui
[01:00] <nanaki_> hehe ya
[01:00] <nanaki_> as long as you tell someone the exact command to type the console is pretty easy :)
[01:00] <SimAtWork> yah, but they don't gain understanding unfortunately.
[01:00] <josh__> Reading package lists... Done
[01:00] <josh__> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:00] <josh__> nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[01:00] <josh__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:00] <SimAtWork> afte you tell someone "use adept, search for bla, and install it.  It works" a few times
[01:00] <SimAtWork> they figure it out.
[01:00] <nanaki_> oh so you already have it, ok
[01:01] <SimAtWork> josh__: ok. so now you need to get your x config file changed.
[01:01] <josh__> ok so i got the default ones
[01:01] <josh__> oh ok
[01:01] <josh__> yay
[01:01] <SimAtWork> josh__: now for that i don't know the simple gui way.
[01:01] <josh__> how do i find that
[01:01] <SimAtWork> josh__: or if one exists.
[01:01] <SimAtWork> but it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:01] <SimAtWork> there is probably a readme you should be reading that tells you waht to do
[01:01] <nanaki_> yeah there isn't really an easy gui way to edit the conf manually unfortunately
[01:01] <SimAtWork> but basically like for driver ='nv' and change it.
[01:01] <josh__> ok what do i chang
[01:01] <nanaki_> there is a tool that comes with the drivers to do it for you
[01:01] <josh__> oho k
[01:01] <nanaki_> but the tool will complain
[01:01] <nanaki_> and not do it
[01:01] <SimAtWork> change it to nvidia
[01:01] <nanaki_> so yeah look for that line and change nv to nvidia
[01:02] <SimAtWork> do you have to do anything in kubuntu to get it to use the nvidia glx instead of mesa 3d libraries?
[01:02] <scabootssca> how do i add my windows partition to grub? and i already tried the wiki entry
[01:02] <josh__> Section "Device"
[01:02] <josh__>   identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"
[01:02] <josh__>   boardname "nv"
[01:02] <josh__>   busid "PCI:2:0:0"
[01:02] <josh__>   driver "nv"
[01:02] <josh__>   screen 0
[01:02] <josh__> now what
[01:02] <nanaki_> that's the one
[01:02] <josh__> change nv to nvidia
[01:02] <nanaki_> change the nv to nvidia
[01:02] <SimAtWork> josh__: drive "nv" should be "nvidia"
[01:02] <nanaki_> make sure you're doing this with sudo btw
[01:02] <nanaki_> otherwise it won't let you save
[01:02] <SimAtWork> even more important
[01:03] <SimAtWork> make sure you makea  backup first
[01:03] <nanaki_> yeah backups are good :)
[01:03] <SimAtWork> always backup before editting in /etc
[01:03] <josh__> i can't change it
[01:03] <josh__> oh i need an editor lmao
[01:03] <nanaki_> oh were you just doing cat? haha
[01:03] <hardw1re> abattoir: it doesnt mention all of the 4xxx scanners, just some of the 44xx's the one i need is the 4070, which i found this for: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150599
[01:04] <nanaki_> yeah just do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, nano is a pretty simple console editor
[01:04] <josh__> k i copied xorg into another folder
[01:04] <SimAtWork> couldn't you use sudo kate ?
[01:04] <SimAtWork> much easier
[01:04] <nanaki_> oh yeah running kdesu kate would probably be easier
[01:05] <josh__> ok now save it?
[01:05] <SimAtWork> yup
[01:05] <SimAtWork> then restart x windows
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> !kde.3.5.3
[01:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about kde.3.5.3 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:05] <SimAtWork> josh__: ther is a chance it wont' work
[01:05] <SimAtWork> josh__: and you will have a no-gui system
[01:05] <SimAtWork> josh__: if that happens, grab your live cd
[01:05] <intelikey> SimAtWork interesting note on backing up xorg.conf  if you cp xorg.conf to $HOME and use startx  it reads the one in $HOME rather than the one in /etc/X11 thus all testing and tweeking can be done in user space and the final step sudo mv xorg.conf /etc/X11     to make the changes system wide.
[01:05] <josh__> omg
[01:06] <josh__> and i can't overwrite it
[01:06] <SimAtWork> intelikey: OH! that's great to know.
[01:06] <nanaki_> oh really intelikey haha i never knew that
[01:06] <SimAtWork> josh__: see what intelikey said.
[01:06] <SimAtWork> josh__: and do that.
[01:06] <SimAtWork> oh wait
[01:06] <SimAtWork> intelikey: but x starts as root
[01:06] <SimAtWork> intelikey: at least by default on kubuntu
[01:06] <josh__> i got linux yesterday i dont know how do do this stuff
[01:06] <josh__> lol
[01:07] <intelikey>  /usr/bin/X is suid root  yes.  your point is ?
[01:07] <SimAtWork> intelikey: it won't use the xorg in his home dir
[01:07] <nanaki_> i think he means when x starts you're at a graphical login because it's runlevel 4
[01:07] <peter_> hallo
[01:07] <nanaki_> so maybe x is running as root?
[01:07] <intelikey> try it.
[01:08] <nanaki_> i dunno i'm not sure how the runlevels work that much
[01:08] <intelikey> SimAtWork if it doesn't work,  then tell me i'm wrong.
[01:08] <nanaki_> but if you say it works i'll believe you ;)
[01:08] <SimAtWork> intelikey: why would kdm / xorg look at his home dir for a config file when it's runnign as root?
[01:08] <SimAtWork> intelikey: i don't seehow it would work at all.
[01:08] <SimAtWork> intelikey: if you have 10 uers and they each have their own xorg.conf then what'll happen
[01:09] <intelikey> SimAtWork i don't care what you see.
[01:09] <josh__> k wow
[01:10] <josh__> i also tried the normal nvidia installation
[01:10] <nanaki_> any luck josh?
[01:10] <josh__> and i got an error
[01:10] <intelikey> SimAtWork i did also specify 'startx'   as opposed to kdm    but i think it works under kdm also... just haven't tested there.
[01:10] <josh__> i forget what it was
[01:10] <josh__> i'll try again
[01:10] <SimAtWork> intelikey: how could it work under kdm
[01:10] <nanaki_> oh you don't want to do that
[01:10] <nanaki_> use the one from the repositories that you have
[01:10] <nanaki_> the driver isn't the problem, you just have to enable it in xorg.conf
[01:10] <josh__> repositories?
[01:10] <hardw1re>  http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=piratekb5.swf
[01:10] <grizzly> which wld be the grub config file?
[01:10] <nanaki_> the one you downloaded already with apt-get
[01:10] <josh__> ooh i see...
[01:11] <josh__> apt-get, what does that do
[01:11] <nanaki_> gets stuff for you :)
[01:11] <nanaki_> programs and things
[01:11] <grizzly>  boot/grub/menu.1st isn't helping..
[01:11] <josh__> i downloaded the package from their site and saved it to my desktop
[01:11] <josh__> was i supposed to do that?
[01:11] <nanaki_> no need to worry about the one from the nvidia site, the one you got with apt-get or adept or whichever app you used has the same stuff in it already
[01:11] <nanaki_> here, try this
[01:11] <grizzly> josh__: google for ubuntu guide
[01:11] <grizzly> !grub
[01:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:12] <nanaki_> go in your k menu (the start menu thing) and do run command
[01:12] <josh__> k
[01:12] <josh__> now what
[01:12] <nanaki_> type this: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:12] <nanaki_> and put in your password
[01:12] <hardw1re> hmm how do i uninstall the current SANE?
[01:12] <josh__> nothing happened...
[01:13] <nanaki_> it didn't pop up an editor or anything?
[01:13] <nanaki_> it should have asked for your password and then popped up kate
[01:13] <nanaki_> try it again?
[01:13] <josh__> there we go
[01:13] <nanaki_> ok, scroll down in that file a little past halfway
[01:13] <nanaki_> looking for the device section you pasted earlier
[01:13] <josh__> i did that
[01:13] <josh__> changed it
[01:13] <josh__> now its nvidia
[01:14] <josh__> now that
[01:14] <josh__> now what*
[01:14] <nanaki_> ok and you could save it just fine right?
[01:14] <josh__> yeah
[01:14] <josh__> i clicked the disk
[01:14] <nanaki_> ok now save and close everything you want to keep because we'll restart x now
[01:14] <josh__> ok
[01:14] <josh__> ctrl alt backspace?
[01:14] <nanaki_> when everything is exited, do ctrl-alt-backspace ya
[01:14] <nanaki_> and hopefully it works :)
[01:14] <josh__> k
[01:14] <josh__> thanks
[01:14] <josh__> what if it doesn't work
[01:15] <josh__> oh i'll go into recovery mode
[01:15] <nanaki_> yeah and edit the file again
[01:15] <josh__> alright lets do this
[01:15] <nanaki_> and change it back to nv
[01:15] <josh__> thanks
[01:15] <grizzly> Anybody? is there any other grub vonfig file  except /boot/grub/menu ??
[01:16] <nanaki_> man grub says it should be /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:16] <grizzly> I need t o add resume2=swap:/dev/hda8 to my grub config file. dding to the normal manu file doesn't works
[01:16] <obf> need help with modifying xmodmap so i can set up hot keys
[01:17] <hardw1re> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `libsane-hp4070.la', needed by `all'.  Stop.
[01:17] <hardw1re> right im gonna leave this for tonight, so then my mum can use the pc
[01:18] <nanaki_> i'm not sure what you mean grizzly, some of the stuff on help:/kubuntu/desktopguide/partitions-booting.html might help, dunno if you've seen that already though
[01:19] <intelikey> what's the command string for system settings ?
[01:19] <intelikey> what's the command string for "system settings" ?
[01:19] <nanaki_> the one in the kde menu uses
[01:19] <nanaki_> systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m
[01:20] <nanaki_> not sure what the % vars are, probably just systemsettings would work
[01:20] <Agios> it's .... systemsettings although I often just run kcontrol
[01:22] <timi> anyone know about the xmodmap
[01:22] <Agios> all I know about xmodmap is in the man page.
[01:22] <Agios> never used it
[01:23] <nanaki_> you'd be surprised how much you can help someone by reading the man page and repeating what it says to them :)
[01:23] <Agios> no, actually I wouldn't. I've been participating in help channels for over 10 years :)
[01:24] <wolfmanz> lol
[01:24] <nanaki_> haha then you are in on the secret
[01:24] <wolfmanz> Agios how old are you?
[01:24] <ubuntu> k
[01:24] <petros> !firefox
[01:24] <Josh__> i'm back
[01:24] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:24] <Josh__> it died
[01:24] <Agios> > 50 < 60
[01:24] <nanaki_> uh oh
[01:24] <Josh__> nothing works
[01:24] <Josh__> i'm on the live ce
[01:24] <Josh__> cd
[01:25] <nanaki_> well you could boot into recovery mode on your hd, all you really need to do is use a command line editor (such as nano) to change the nvidia string back to nv
[01:25] <Josh__> oh
[01:25] <taos_KB> I'm having a problem with xorg-flgrx graphics driver...I think?
[01:25] <Josh__> well i'm going into the system
[01:25] <intelikey> SimAtWork after testing with both root and user on the latest kubuntu  it seems that it only works for root.   it did use to work for users also.  xorg is changing...   still playing with /root/xorg.conf is a safer bet than /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:25] <nanaki_> because that's all we changed and it was working before
[01:26] <Josh__> oh no
[01:26] <Josh__> it won't let me into the hard drive
[01:26] <nanaki_> yeah i dunno how it's gonna handle the permissions
[01:26] <nanaki_> i would just boot into recovery console
[01:26] <nanaki_> it's not that tough
[01:26] <nanaki_> you won't even have to use sudo hehe
[01:26] <Josh__> mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in etc/fstab or etc/mtab
[01:26] <rocketman768> anybody know what this error message means on bootup? 'modprobe FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15.7/modules.dep no such file or directory'
[01:26] <SimAtWork> intelikey: you can tell x to use a diff config file with the correct parameters anyhow
[01:26] <SimAtWork> so you can still do it as a user
[01:26] <nanaki_> just nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, scroll down and change the nvidia back to nv, then save and reset
[01:27] <Josh__> oh ok
[01:27] <Josh__> how do i save?
[01:27] <Josh__> in a console
[01:27] <nanaki_> in nano if you just do ctrl-x it will ask you if you want to save before you quit
[01:27] <Josh__> oh nice
[01:27] <Josh__> alright i'll try that
[01:27] <Josh__> thx
[01:27] <intelikey> SimAtWork yes indeed.   but it no longer defaults to ~/ first.
[01:28] <Josh__> now why the hell would it do this to me anyways?
[01:28] <Josh__> i set it to nvidia
[01:28] <marcus__> need a little web server help please?
[01:28] <Josh__> should i have downloaded something before
[01:28] <scabootssca> whats hdb1 in grub?
[01:28] <nanaki_> you already downloaded the driver so i'm not sure why it would crash like that
[01:28] <nanaki_> it could be a lot of things
[01:29] <Josh__> ok usually what should u do before u change the xor
[01:29] <Josh__> xorg
[01:29] <Josh__> i installed the gdm or w/e drivers
[01:29] <supernix> Hi anyone here know much about modems need to pick a good one for my fiancees computer
[01:29] <Josh__> using adept
[01:29] <nanaki_> personally i just changed it and it worked, you shouldn't need to do anything except install nvidia-glx (which you did) and change the xorg.conf
[01:29] <Josh__> oh
[01:29] <timi> ok what is the man page?
[01:29] <SimAtWork> so josh
[01:29] <Josh__> i also installed all the amd64 stuff
[01:29] <SimAtWork> is your nvidia working?
[01:29] <Josh__> the restricted packages
[01:30] <SimAtWork> i gotta go in 1 min or so
[01:30] <nanaki_> intelikey: i think what SimAtWork was trying to say earlier is that since kubuntu uses a graphical login, x is starting before the user has logged in, so it must be running as root then right?
[01:30] <Josh__> no it crashed, i'm on the live cd
[01:30] <Josh__> so i'm fucked
[01:30] <SimAtWork> Josh__: ok, restore the config file then come back
[01:30] <Josh__> lol
[01:30] <Josh__> ok i'll try that
[01:30] <Josh__> beb
[01:30] <SimAtWork> Josh__: you made a backup so you're in the clear
[01:30] <Josh__> brb
[01:30] <Josh__> yeah i did make a backup
[01:30] <Josh__> but how would i access that?
[01:30] <SimAtWork> see how brilliant you are.
[01:31] <Josh__> i can't access the partition lol
[01:31] <SimAtWork> you should see icons for the partition on your desktop
[01:31] <marcus__> anybody know why folders under public_html wouldn't show up?
[01:31] <SimAtWork> if not you might need to dig for it a bit
[01:31] <intelikey> nanaki_ one more time,  i did specify starting X via "startx"   thus precluding *dm
[01:31] <SimAtWork> gotta go
[01:31] <SimAtWork> see you all later
[01:31] <Josh__> damn
[01:31] <Josh__> later sim
[01:32] <Josh__> ok well now i need to figure out how to do this
[01:32] <Josh__> i'll try the nano thing
[01:32] <Josh__> peace
[01:32] <intelikey> gooday SimAtWork
[01:32] <Josh__> oh
[01:32] <Josh__> and to save
[01:32] <Josh__> ctrl x?
[01:33] <nanaki_> ctrl-x will quit, but it will ask you if you want to save before you do, so say yes
[01:33] <intelikey> ^o  == write out.    ^x == exit  (it asks about writing before exiting)
[01:34] <nanaki_> intelikey: oh okay, yeah if you use startx i would have thought it would check ~/xorg.conf first
[01:34] <nanaki_> guess they changed that then
[01:35] <cotroler> !nvidia
[01:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:35] <intelikey> nanaki_ it used too.   but only for root now it seems.  and another change in xorg i don't like at all, it uses /root/ as a swap dir.
[01:36] <nanaki_> it does? hahaha that's retarded
[01:36] <Steven_> why is there no up traffic in ktorrent when of got 10 leechers?
[01:38] <Sarnuial> can i have some help getting the live cd to boot?
[01:39] <Sarnuial> it freezes just after the menu
[01:39] <Sarnuial> at "mounting root file system"
[01:40] <ggodin> !qemu
[01:40] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:40] <josh__> k
[01:40] <Sarnuial> i hit f6 and nuked "quiet" and "splash"
[01:40] <coachJ> what can I use to open .CDR (corel) files?
[01:40] <josh__> i'm back
[01:40] <josh__> again
[01:41] <josh__> i fixed it
[01:41] <Sarnuial> and it seems to be freezing when it probes 4 usb
[01:41] <josh__> what if i install nvidia-settings?
[01:42] <coachJ> anyone know what can I use to open .CDR (corel) files?
[01:43] <Sarnuial> coachJ: openoffice doesnt?
[01:43] <coachJ> i'll try didnt think of that
[01:43] <nanaki_> nvidia-settings is just a util to configure the driver once it's working, that won't help you make it work
[01:44] <nanaki_> you have what you need installed, it probably just needs some other thing in xorg.conf and i don't really know what
[01:44] <nanaki_> bugs like that can happen
[01:44] <nanaki_> check the forums maybe
[01:44] <Sarnuial> coachJ: by the way, u know whats cool - im an hour drive from the corel hq :D
[01:45] <coachJ> that is cool
[01:45] <coachJ> Sarnuai:open office what? drawl ?
[01:46] <Sarnuial> probably
[01:46] <Sarnuial> i dunno
[01:46] <Sarnuial> open a writter document
[01:46] <Sarnuial> close it
[01:46] <Sarnuial> and then go file > open
[01:46] <Sarnuial> u should be able to open
[01:46] <Sarnuial> all supported file formats
[01:46] <Sarnuial> that way
[01:47] <Sarnuial> but im not sure if OOo has support for much corel stuff...
[01:47] <Sarnuial> worth a try anyway
[01:48] <coachJ> I guess I can save it a jpg if I have to
[01:49] <coachJ> nope didnt work
[01:49] <Sarnuial> nuts
[01:49] <cyber_brain_mfkg> hello
[01:49] <timi> how do i get kdm
[01:50] <timi> or is it integrated
[01:50] <cyber_brain_mfkg> i need some help
[01:50] <Sarnuial> the problem with finding any info on a Linux CDR reader is most of the Google results are typos of CD-R
[01:50] <Sarnuial> <_<
[01:50] <cyber_brain_mfkg> how can i setup proxy on konversation????
[01:50] <josh__> k
[01:50] <josh__> in adept
[01:51] <cyber_brain_mfkg> (my ip is banned from my local irc server)
[01:51] <cyber_brain_mfkg> i have static ip
[01:51] <josh__> what happens when you click complete upgrade
[01:51] <cyber_brain_mfkg> :(
[01:51] <nanaki_> you'd need to know of a proxy that would forward your irc traffic
[01:51] <cyber_brain_mfkg> someone?
[01:51] <nanaki_> so either you would have to set up one on another computer somewhere else, or use a public one
[01:52] <nanaki_> public irc proxies that actually work are rare since people use them to spam so they get banned
[01:52] <cyber_brain_mfkg> i have proxys ip and port
[01:52] <nanaki_> many networks block proxies entirely
[01:52] <cyber_brain_mfkg> where to type it????
[01:52] <josh__> to update do i click complete upgrade?
[01:52] <nanaki_> hm i don't see a proxy setting under konversation settings
[01:52] <nanaki_> maybe it doesn't support that yet
[01:52] <josh__> ok i'm doing it
[01:53] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what about gnome xchat???
[01:53] <josh__> i dont know what i'm doing but i'm doing it
[01:53] <cyber_brain_mfkg> i cant find there 2
[01:53] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ???
[01:53] <nanaki_> x-chat i believe does support proxies but i don't have it installed
[01:53] <nanaki_> check around the settings pages i guess
[01:53] <nanaki_> it's doubtful that the proxy will work anyway though
[01:53] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what irc front end do u use?
[01:53] <nanaki_> unless you already know it's good
[01:53] <nanaki_> i'm using konversation
[01:54] <cyber_brain_mfkg> yes my friend uses same proxy
[01:54] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !!!
[01:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about !! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:54] <cyber_brain_mfkg> on windows
[01:55] <cyber_brain_mfkg> nanaki_:  thanx anyway
[01:55] <cyber_brain_mfkg> :)
[01:55] <timi> !kdm
[01:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:57] <metalhedd> I'm using an nvidia card and trying to use the TV out.  i have it working but the way its set up, the TV is like the right hand side of my desktop and it limits my monitors res to 1024x768. is there a way to run the monitor at a better resolution and still have the TV-out?
[01:57] <Sarnuial> how much video memory do u have?
[01:57] <metalhedd> 256 i think
[01:57] <Sarnuial> so thats not the problem...
[01:57] <Sarnuial> oh wiat, it wouldnt be anyway
[01:58] <Sarnuial> the tv is just displaying whats on ur monitor, right?
[01:58] <metalhedd> Apparently the problem is that the TV can't support resolutions higher than that, and since the TV is just an extension of the desktop on my monitor it needs to use the same res.
[01:58] <Sarnuial> ok
[01:58] <Sarnuial> thought so
[01:58] <Sarnuial> no, i know of no way
[01:58] <metalhedd> no, its wierd.  I have my normal looking desktop working as it always did, (but at 1024x768) and when my mouse goes off the right, its on the TV
[01:59] <Sarnuial> oh
[01:59] <Sarnuial> hmm
[01:59] <Sarnuial> weird
[01:59] <taos_KB> I'm having a problem with xorg-flgrx graphics driver.
[02:00] <taos_KB> I installed using adept  but when I do lsmod it is not listed.
[02:01] <scabootssca> how do i totally uninstall grub and then reiunstall it?
[02:04] <intelikey> scabootssca you could use fdisk /mbr from a dos disk   xp's fixmbr   or over write the mbr via dd   as for totally uninstalling also needed would be apt-get --purge remove grub
[02:04] <rr72> LeeJunFan~ havent started yet
[02:05] <intelikey> scabootssca i have been in and out,  but did i hear you say grub boots linux but not xp and unpluging the drive with linux on it then power on boots xp ?
[02:05] <wolfmanz> anyone know the command to see what kernal i have installed?
[02:05] <scabootssca> yes
[02:06] <scabootssca> exactly
[02:06] <rr72> wolfmanz~ uname -r
[02:06] <wolfmanz> thanks
[02:06] <rr72> np
[02:06] <intelikey> scabootssca grub can only boot what bios can read/boot  you might look into lilo   it's a more powerfull boot loader
[02:06] <scabootssca> ok
[02:07] <scabootssca> i can mound the windows partition from linux also
[02:07] <rr72> intelikey~ why do people say to use grub over lilo then?
[02:07] <cyber_brain_mfkg> who is op on this chanel?
[02:07] <intelikey> scabootssca it sounds like your issue is a changing bios address for the hard drives.
[02:07] <cyber_brain_mfkg> who is op on this chanel?
[02:07] <rr72> cyber_brain_mfkg~ look for urself
[02:07] <scabootssca> any ideas how to fix it?
[02:07] <rr72> freenodes services allow u to veiw the access list
[02:07] <cyber_brain_mfkg> my konversation cannot recognize icons
[02:07] <cyber_brain_mfkg> :D
[02:07] <cyber_brain_mfkg> all are normal users
[02:08] <cyber_brain_mfkg> :(
[02:08] <intelikey> scabootssca with the xp partition mounted  type mount and tell me the '1' line that contains the ntfs partition ?
[02:08] <rr72> all people here are normal
[02:08] <rr72> ATM
[02:08] <nanaki_> i think that may just be the status in this channel ya
[02:08] <nanaki_> mine works on another net just fine
[02:08] <scabootssca> it's fat32
[02:08] <rr72> freenode policy no ops unless needed
[02:08] <nanaki_> oic that's probably a good policy
[02:08] <scabootssca> i'm doing that
[02:08] <nanaki_> prevents ban drama
[02:09] <intelikey> rr72 it's the *buntu way.   one or more of the team leadres likes grub
[02:09] <scabootssca> /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,umask=0000)
[02:09] <rr72> oh
[02:09] <scabootssca> it also has another partition that has just .mps's on it
[02:09] <rr72> but i mean not in this chan
[02:09] <scabootssca> /dev/hdb5 on /mnt/music type vfat (rw,umask=0000)
[02:09] <rr72> i don't hang here, im only here cause i need help badly
[02:10] <scabootssca> intelikey: the first has the windows folder on it
[02:10] <intelikey> scabootssca ok not in /boot/grub/devicemap   is there a referance to /dev/hdb  ?
[02:10] <rocketman768> what is gtk+-2.0's name if i want to apt-get it?
[02:11] <intelikey> s/not/now/
[02:11] <scabootssca> intelikey, no
[02:11] <scabootssca> just hda
[02:11] <intelikey> rocketman768 use apt-cache search gtk    for that info.
[02:12] <rocketman768> intelikey: thanks
[02:12] <intelikey> apt-cache search/show blah     is your friend.
[02:12] <intelikey> scabootssca ok try adding one.   like the one for hda   follow the same nomenclature
[02:12] <scabootssca> ok i'll try
[02:13] <scabootssca> ok i added it
[02:14] <scabootssca> i'll try to restart and load windows i guess?
[02:14] <Sarnuial> ACK!
[02:14] <Sarnuial> NO!
[02:14] <scabootssca> i added "(hd1)	/dev/hdb"
[02:14] <Sarnuial> BAD scabootssca
[02:14] <intelikey> scabootssca then add an " (hd1,0) boot chainloader +1  "    line in /boot/grub/menu.list         errr check the syntax cause i dont use grub.
[02:14] <Sarnuial> oh wait
[02:14] <Sarnuial> im in windoze...
[02:14] <coachJ> can U install a RPM on Kubuntu?
[02:15] <nanaki_> yes
[02:15] <intelikey> scabootssca yep
[02:15] <nanaki_> but you probably don't want to
[02:15] <nanaki_> make sure it's not in the ubuntu repositories first (universe and multiverse too!)
[02:15] <scabootssca> i have title Windows Xp
[02:15] <scabootssca> rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[02:15] <scabootssca> makeactive
[02:15] <scabootssca> chainloader +1
[02:15] <scabootssca> boot
[02:15] <coachJ> nanki: anything special I have to do?
[02:15] <nanaki_> if you can't find it anywhere except in an rpm, you need the program "alien" which should be in the repositories
[02:15] <scabootssca> oops sorry channel
[02:15] <intelikey> coachJ you can  but there is probably a .deb of the same thing
[02:15] <scabootssca> it wasnt on one line
[02:16] <nanaki_> beyond that i'm not sure, but it should come with docs, just look for alien
[02:16] <coachJ> havent found it but i'll keep looking
[02:16] <coachJ> k
[02:16] <intelikey> coachJ apt-cache search <name>
[02:16] <coachJ> k
[02:16] <intelikey> scabootssca looks good   test it.
[02:19] <intelikey> grub may have a switch to set it to boot-as=0x80   like lilo has       idk...
[02:22] <rocketman768> i am trying to run make gconfig, and it tells me i need gtk+-2.0 installed. Well, it's installed and gconfig still complains, wtf?
[02:23] <intelikey> hehhe toggeling suid on and off at will for mount point /      krazzy  man ;;;
[02:23] <intelikey> rocketman768 build-essential
[02:24] <intelikey> ???
[02:24] <rocketman768> intelikey: what do you mean?
[02:24] <intelikey> install it
[02:25] <rr72> actuelly setting defualt init/run level could be good for 6 or 1
[02:25] <rr72> for security measure if u go away
[02:26] <rr72> just use a cd to change it back
[02:26] <nanaki_> anyone else could change it back then too
[02:26] <nanaki_> with a similar cd
[02:26] <rr72> not if u don't make the computer boot from cd
[02:26] <nanaki_> follow the mantra of the security professional: physical access IS root access
[02:27] <nanaki_> and lock your door accordingly ;)
[02:27] <Agios> pull the hdd and lock it up if you are that paranoid :)
[02:27] <intelikey> rr72 cd     boot a cd to change runlevels ???
[02:28] <rr72> encrypt it all via 128 random DoD algorithms
[02:28] <rr72> root
[02:28] <rr72> this-is-not-my-pass
[02:28] <rr72> oops
[02:28] <intelikey> rr72 why not have a hot key to switch init 3   init 4    then you could have root totally locked down no sudo no suid  no nothing      hit the hot key  and back to normal
[02:30] <intelikey> that way normal users could continue business as normal  but all admin tasks would simply be 'off line'  for the time
[02:31] <timi> hey intellikey i see your talking about hot keys, do you know how to modify an xmodmap so i can add functions to some media buttons
[02:32] <intelikey> timi not well enough to help you.   i might trial and error get my own set.   sorry.
[02:33] <Hawkwind> timi: Are you trying to do multimedia keys on your keyboard ?
[02:34] <intelikey> i do set my windows keys to switch consoles  with this....  echo 'keycode 125 = Decr_Console' | loadkeys && echo 'keycode 126 = Incr_Console' | loadkeys  .... in an init script.   but like i said i'd have to do lots of poking around.
[02:35] <timi> welll my laptop has media button
[02:35] <timi> on the front edge
[02:35] <timi> i found instructions for getting them to work
[02:35] <timi> but the guy just said edit xmodmap
[02:35] <Hawkwind> timi: lineak is a good thing for multimedia keys
[02:36] <Hawkwind> timi: http://cweiske.de/howto/xmodmap/allinone.html  <~~xmodmap how-to that works perfectly
[02:36] <Hawkwind> timi: But Lineak is very simple to use.  Great little program
[02:36] <intelikey> timi  you can use showkeys  to learn what they are
[02:36] <timi> ok
[02:37] <wolfmanz> is there a quick way to configure the extra keys i have my keyboard the multimedia keys?
[02:37] <intelikey> wolfmanz X or console ?
[02:38] <wolfmanz> so they work in kde:D
[02:38] <intelikey> see the above postings to timi
[02:43] <josh__> how do i play mp3's from my windows partition?
[02:45] <timi> how do i change my kdm
[02:45] <timi> is there a theme manager somewher for it
[02:45] <intelikey> !mp3 > josh__
[02:46] <josh__> huh?
[02:46] <intelikey> timi system settings
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> Heh, nice, I was gonna ask about special keyboards too
[02:46] <intelikey> !mp3
[02:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:47] <intelikey> !vlc
[02:47] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:47] <abattoir> josh__: is your windows partition mounted?
[02:47] <timi> not there
[02:47] <josh__> how do you tell that its mounted
[02:47] <timi> under kcontrol splash screen is there
[02:47] <abattoir> josh__: and do mp3s in your linux partition play?
[02:47] <intelikey> timi was when i customized mine.....
[02:48] <josh__> umm
[02:48] <josh__> only ogg's
[02:48] <abattoir> josh__: amarok?
[02:48] <timi> i installed all the kdm packagkes except kcontrol kdmtheme not there
[02:48] <_greg> Hawkwind: where would you get "lineac"? Adept came up empty.
[02:48] <josh__> ya
[02:48] <timi> really was it under look or something
[02:48] <abattoir> josh__: install 'libxine-extracodecs'
[02:48] <abattoir> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:48] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:48] <josh__> oh ok
[02:48] <josh__> and then it should work?
[02:48] <abattoir> josh__: make sure you have 'multiverse' enabled
[02:48] <abattoir> !multiverse
[02:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:49] <abattoir> josh__: if you do it right, yes it should work
[02:49] <intelikey> bottom line i think.   i'm not gonna start a gui just to look.
[02:49] <josh__> even the ones from my windows partition?
[02:49] <josh__> how do i enable multiverse?
[02:49] <abattoir> josh__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:50] <abattoir> josh__: yeah, why not?
[02:50] <intelikey> !repos > josh__
[02:51] <josh__> how do i enable multiverse
[02:51] <abattoir> josh__: dude, look at the links i have given... intelikey and I have told you twice already
[02:52] <intelikey> josh__ windows partition is a referance to ntfs i presume, but; data is data. is place of storage is hardly relavent to who it's used.
[02:52] <josh__> oops lol
[02:52] <josh__> i'm doing homework so i'm distracted
[02:52] <intelikey> s/who/how
[02:52] <wolfmanz> i gotta use that line some time lol
[02:53] <intelikey> so stop distracting us until you are not busy.
[02:53] <wolfmanz> lol
[02:55] <intelikey> asking a lot of questions that were just answered for you, is a good way to stop getting answers and start getting ignored..... how ever i have learned that answering other peoples questions in here has the same affect....
[02:56] <josh__> sorry
[02:56] <josh__> lol
[02:56] <KDEfanboy> heh
[02:56] <wolfmanz> these linux folk are touchy people lol
[02:56] <danny50010> hi
[02:56] <KDEfanboy> lol
[02:56] <danny50010> what's up guy's?
[02:57] <intelikey> aint they
[02:57] <danny50010> HDEfanboy, you been on all day?
[02:57] <_greg> same old danny50010, you?
[02:57] <Hawkwind> _greg: It's actually lineakd
[02:57] <_greg> thanks hawk
[02:57] <danny50010> good
[02:57] <Hawkwind> Yeppers
[02:57] <KDEfanboy> danny50010: sure idling, u?
[02:57] <josh__> ok i'm in adept
[02:57] <danny50010> no
[02:57] <KDEfanboy> oic
[02:57] <josh__> repository manager
[02:58] <danny50010> I got a 7mbps connection
[02:58] <wolfmanz> think adept should come with repos turned on
[02:58] <danny50010> my brain's just slow
[02:58] <danny50010> lol
[02:58] <danny50010> 00.0000000001mbps
[02:58] <intelikey> i've got a 2470 connection
[02:58] <josh__> oh ok
[02:58] <josh__> well i need multiverse
[02:58] <danny50010> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:59] <danny50010> !
[02:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:59] <danny50010> 1
[02:59] <danny50010> !
[02:59] <abattoir> josh__: while you are at it, enable universe too
[02:59] <intelikey> 2670 on good days
[02:59] <danny50010> what 2.670mbps?
[03:00] <danny50010> I pay $45 per mounth for my conect, you must pay like $1000 per month!
[03:00] <josh__> i have 5mb/s
[03:00] <danny50010> cogeco?
[03:00] <josh__> for 45 bucks canadian
[03:00] <intelikey> no no letters just 2670   lol
[03:00] <intelikey> as in 2k
[03:01] <josh__> rogers internet
[03:01] <danny50010> 2kbps
[03:01] <josh__> its canadian
[03:01] <danny50010> that's slow
[03:01] <josh__> it pwns u all
[03:01] <danny50010> I have 7mbps
[03:01] <danny50010> $45
[03:01] <danny50010> cogeco
[03:01] <danny50010> I pawn you lol
[03:01] <intelikey> danny50010 now you got it.
[03:02] <danny50010> got what?
[03:02] <intelikey> :)
[03:02] <danny50010> :)
[03:02] <rr72> how do i install NVIDIA drivers by hand? gcc isnt the same or it can't find modules in the kernal
[03:02] <danny50010> just needed to get my brain warmed up
[03:02] <rr72> i want to wipe my system of nvidia and start from fresh
[03:02] <danny50010> you can't do it by hand
[03:03] <danny50010> you'll get a shock
[03:03] <rr72> danny50010~ i need to do it by hand
[03:03] <danny50010> lol
[03:03] <intelikey> but DoS attacks can't touch sush a slow connection.....  all it can do is cause a ping timeout   :)      pro's and con's to everything i guess.
[03:03] <danny50010> you'll get a shok
[03:03] <danny50010> c
[03:03] <danny50010> shock
[03:03] <danny50010> sorry
[03:03] <danny50010> told you my brain was slow
[03:04] <danny50010> 00.000001mbps
[03:04] <rr72> intelikey~ how do i install nvidia by hand? all the gcc versions are wrong and can't find one on the server that fits my kernel
[03:04] <rr72> don't u mean bytes not mbs
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> How would I have a button in the KDE panel run an app through sudo?
[03:04] <danny50010> I already told you, you will get a shock if you do it by hand.
[03:05] <danny50010> got to www.nvidia.com and download them.
[03:05] <abattoir> Dragnslcr: just add a normal button, but in the command called to execute it prefix sudo or kdesu
[03:05] <danny50010> or use the cd your card came with
[03:05] <intelikey> rr72 i'm not much on compiling,  better ask someone else.
[03:05] <danny50010> ok
[03:05] <rr72> LeeJunFan~ around? my gcc version is too high
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> rr72: what kernel version are you running ?
[03:06] <rr72> 2.6.12-9-386
[03:06] <intelikey> can't you have multi-gcc's ???
[03:06] <danny50010> what's a gcc?
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> rr72: on breezy ?
[03:06] <rr72> iirc yes
[03:06] <intelikey> 12 ?
[03:07] <_greg> Thanks Hawkwind, now I have another toy to play with.
[03:07] <intelikey> breezy kernel ?
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> abattoir- tried adding sudo before it, and the app wouldn't launch
[03:07] <abattoir> Dragnslcr: kdesu ?
[03:07] <danny50010> gay cock collecters?
[03:07] <danny50010> just joking
[03:07] <_greg> rr72, I did it on a Mandrake install and it was a royal pain in the ass.
[03:07] <danny50010> don't mind that
[03:08] <abattoir> Dragnslcr: kdesu, because sudo will not bring up a gui p/d dialog... which kdesu will
[03:08] <intelikey> 2.6.15-26-386 here.
[03:08] <h3sp4wn> rr72: cat /etc/lsb-release (that will tell you what version you are on)
[03:08] <danny50010> that's what gcc stands for
[03:08] <rr72> ive don't it before and it was easy
[03:08] <danny50010> lol
[03:08] <rr72> *done
[03:08] <rr72> h3sp4wn~ yeah breazy
[03:09] <intelikey> gcc = gnu c compiler
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> abattoir- I'll give that shot. I found a workaround. Items in the regular menu have a "run as" option
[03:10] <h3sp4wn> rr72: If I remember correctly with breezy everything is compiled with gcc 4 except the kernel which is built with 3.4.4
[03:10] <kbrooks> How do I compress a directory uing 7z ?
[03:11] <draik> **other than 'cat /etc/lsb-release' you can also type 'lsb_release -a' and it will give you the same info
[03:11] <rr72> draik~ idc i got it
[03:11] <rr72> h3sp4wn~ so what do i do?
[03:12] <josh__> ok
[03:12] <h3sp4wn> rr72: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 before you run the nvidia program see whether it honors that
[03:12] <crimsun> kbrooks: 7zr -a foo.blah dir
[03:12] <crimsun> kbrooks: sorry, not -a but a
[03:13] <josh__> whats that package i need to install to play mp3's
[03:13] <josh__> i instsalled the repositories
[03:13] <abattoir> libxine-extracodecs
[03:13] <josh__> thx
[03:13] <abattoir> nikkiana: mouse works?
[03:13] <rr72> h3sp4wn~ ty
[03:13] <rr72> h3sp4wn~ ty so much
[03:13] <josh__> omg
[03:14] <josh__> i don't have it
[03:14] <abattoir> josh__: did you click 'Fetch Updates'
[03:14] <rr72> fixed my computer
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> rr72: It worked ?
[03:14] <josh__> yes
[03:14] <nikkiana> abattoir, well, sort of
[03:14] <intelikey> abattoir i think he may be on breezy
[03:15] <josh__> i'm on kubuntu
[03:15] <josh__> 6.06
[03:15] <josh__> dappper drake
[03:15] <rr72> h3sp4wn~ i kept getting signal 11 error and u helped me fix it
[03:15] <abattoir> josh__: then if you did the steps right, the package should be there
[03:15] <josh__> ugh
[03:15] <nikkiana> abattoir, i need to disable that dumb feature where you double click on the touchpad and it acts like a left mouseclick....
[03:15] <kbrooks> wow
[03:15] <kbrooks> crimsun: thanks
[03:15] <nikkiana> i've effectively lost two posts on the ubuntu forums that i was going to make because of that....
[03:15] <abattoir> nikkiana: try installing ksynaptics/qsynaptics
[03:16] <kbrooks> crimsun: 7z gives great compression
[03:16] <crimsun> kbrooks: for many use cases, yes.
[03:16] <draik> how do you change/add multiverse repos?
[03:16] <rr72> ryno who? i was ryno over a year ago
[03:16] <abattoir> josh__: try going through the page again and make sure you've done the steps right
[03:16] <rr72> but changed to a cooler nick
[03:16] <abattoir> !multiverse > draik
[03:16] <jmichaelx> man, my kubuntu install was working so well, but tonight it would not boot up anymore. does anyone know if there are someitmes bad issues when using 915resolution?
[03:16] <nikkiana> abattoir, i'll give it a shot
[03:17] <intelikey> hey kid how are ya  :)
[03:17] <kbrooks> crimsun: when i compress ~/Examples w/ tar.gz, tar.bz2 and 7z, 7z wins
[03:17] <draik> abattoir, thank you
[03:17] <abattoir> nikkiana: you might need to mess a bit w/ xorg.conf to get that working though
[03:17] <abattoir> draik: :)
[03:17] <jmichaelx> what's up intelikey
[03:17] <nikkiana> abattoir, i think that's what i had to do last time....
[03:18] <kbrooks> crimsun: well, i ignored the bz2. removed it because it was creating a bigger file
[03:18] <abattoir> nikkiana: you should enable SHMConfig under your synaptics entry in xorg.conf
[03:18] <jmichaelx> i am having to re-install kubuntu on my laptop tonight after all of that work... this sucks so bad i have been tempted to ditch linux.... but of course i won't
[03:18] <nikkiana> abattoir, not to sound utterly retarted but where do i find xorg.conf? (my fiance edited it for me last time, that's why i'm clueless)
[03:19] <abattoir> nikkiana: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:19] <nikkiana> abattoir, thanks
[03:19] <abattoir> nikkiana: np :)
[03:19] <rr72> h3sp4wn~ do i need to make it back to what ever it was?
[03:20] <danny50010> you guy's get frozen to?
[03:20] <jmichaelx> frozen?
[03:20] <josh__> YES!
[03:20] <danny50010> i sent to many haha"s
[03:20] <josh__> it works
[03:20] <danny50010> sorry
[03:20] <draik> abattoir, It works. I was having the same issue as josh__
[03:21] <abattoir> josh__: mp3 ?
[03:21] <abattoir> oh sorry, that was for draik
[03:21] <jmichaelx> does anyone in here use 915resolution? can it mess your system up?
[03:21] <josh__> well i want to play mp3's from my other partition
[03:21] <danny50010> I use 1200
[03:21] <danny50010> and no it can't
[03:21] <draik> abattoir, Yes. That's why I use XMMS instead of amaroK
[03:21] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i remember helping someone w/ that(was that you) ?
[03:21] <h3sp4wn> rr72: If you do it that way no when you reboot it will be back to normal
[03:21] <jmichaelx> 015resolution is a package that enables 1280x800
[03:22] <abattoir> draik: oh, ok :)
[03:22] <danny50010> depends what tpe of screen your using and graphics card to
[03:22] <rr72> h3sp4wn~ i never reboot, i think that is what did it to it
[03:22] <abattoir> josh__: open up konqueror, type 'media:/'
[03:22] <rr72> power outage
[03:22] <abattoir> josh__: see if your windows partition is recognised and click on it, that should 'mount' it
[03:22] <jmichaelx> abattoir: no, it wasn't, although i was told to look for you. i installed 915resolution and it ruined my kubuntu install :-(
[03:22] <danny50010> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[03:23] <abattoir> josh__: then open amarok and look for the file... for eg. if it is media:/hda1, look under /media/hda1
[03:23] <jmichaelx> danny50010: you could get banned for doing that
[03:23] <josh__> yeah
[03:23] <danny50010> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
[03:23] <danny50010> ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
[03:23] <abattoir> jmichaelx: look for me? i wonder who told that :P
[03:23] <josh__> in system it sees that partition and i can access the files
[03:23] <abattoir> !ops
[03:23] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[03:23] <josh__> !ping
[03:23] <ubotu> pong
[03:23] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz told me that, i think
[03:23] <josh__> !lag
[03:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about lag - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:24] <nikkiana> abattoir, i think installing ksynatpic switches the synaptic driver back to the xorg one.... or at least, that's what just happened to me...
[03:24] <nalioth> josh__: /ping ubotu for a lag check
[03:24] <abattoir> jmichaelx: does the program recognise your resolution ?
[03:24] <josh__> ok so amarok isn't playing my shit
[03:24] <abattoir> nikkiana: hmmm, it doesnt do that for me :S, weird
[03:24] <nalioth> josh__: it's not supposed to play that, it's made for mp3
[03:24] <josh__> yeah
[03:24] <josh__> and i'm trying to play mp3's
[03:24] <jmichaelx> abattoir: 915resolution worked great for me... until i rebooted... then i could not get X to start anymore. i tried everything. talk about a heartache
[03:25] <jmichaelx> heartbreak*
[03:25] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, so you cant boot into your system?
[03:25] <jmichaelx> abattoir: no, i had help and we tried. i am re-installing as we speak
[03:26] <josh__> it plays in kaffeine
[03:26] <josh__> not amarok though
[03:26] <jmichaelx> but, i am scared to try 915resolution again
[03:26] <nikkiana> josh__, did you set up what your engine for amarok is?
[03:26] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmm, a 'sudo dexconf' would have restored your xorg.conf... if only X was the problem
[03:26] <abattoir> no need to reinstall
[03:26] <_greg> josh__: amorak is kind of bloated (imho). try xmms
[03:27] <jmichaelx> abattoir: then the issue must have been more than X, we tries drxconf
[03:27] <jmichaelx> dexconf*
[03:27] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmmm, must have been then, i dont exactly know what happened... so
[03:28] <jmichaelx> abattoir: it was only me theory that it was 915resolution... that was the only thing i had recently changed
[03:28] <jmichaelx> who knows what happened... i had bad flashbacks of BSOD
[03:29] <abattoir> jmichaelx: it well could be, but did you try restarting X alone... to see if it worked?
[03:29] <abattoir> or did you just reboot ?
[03:29] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes, it would not work
[03:29] <jmichaelx> i tried both, abattoir
[03:29] <abattoir> jmichaelx: but the res was detected by the program right?
[03:29] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes, it was nice
[03:29] <abattoir> jmichaelx: did you run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' after that and selected your resolution?
[03:30] <jmichaelx> while it lasted...
[03:30] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes
[03:30] <jmichaelx> abattoir: oops, NO
[03:30] <jmichaelx> i didn't
[03:30] <josh__> there is NO bass
[03:30] <rr72> LeeJunFan~ all fixed
[03:30] <josh__> i tried the eq and it doesnt help
[03:30] <abattoir> jmichaelx: well, i think you should
[03:31] <jmichaelx> abattoir: when i installed 915resolution, i just ran '915resolution' in a terminal and rebooted
[03:31] <abattoir> jmichaelx: atleast that's what made it work for the other person... wolfmanz? maybe he remembers
[03:31] <jmichaelx> abattoir: you think that may have been my fatal wrror?
[03:31] <jmichaelx> error*
[03:32] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i think the procedure is to run the program, see if your resolution is listed, then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select your resolution,
[03:32] <_roberta> alguem sabe como abrir um arquivo .rpm?
[03:32] <abattoir> and restart x
[03:32] <caiocafe> abrir rpm pra que?
[03:32] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i am going to do all of that right now, so i hope you will be in here for a bit
[03:32] <jmichaelx> if you have time
[03:32] <abattoir> jmichaelx: should be :)
[03:33] <jmichaelx> awesome
[03:33] <aniquila> please, some people knows how to open a archive .rpm?
[03:33] <aniquila> please, some people knows how to open a archive .rpm?
[03:33] <rr72> click on it?
[03:33] <abattoir> aniquila: you want to install it?
[03:34] <abattoir> aniquila: ubuntu is a debian based system which doesnt support rpm natively
[03:34] <aniquila> abattoir: ow yesss.. do you know?
[03:34] <jmichaelx> abattoir: 915resolution installed... shouyld i run it in a terminal next?
[03:34] <abattoir> try getting a deb
[03:34] <abattoir> jmichaelx: yes with a -l flag right?
[03:34] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i don't know what that is lol
[03:34] <abattoir> aniquila: shich program
[03:34] <timi> i want to change my bootsplash
[03:35] <jmichaelx> sudo 915resolution -l    ?
[03:35] <abattoir> jmichaelx: iirc it was 915resolution -l
[03:35] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i'm not sure, check that out
[03:35] <jmichaelx> ok
[03:35] <timi> i think i need kbootsplash  but i can't apt-get that
[03:35] <abattoir> aniquila: *which program?
[03:35] <aniquila> abattoir: what the programs that open archives .rpm?
[03:35] <abattoir> aniquila: ugh, i told you, you cant install rpms in a debian system
[03:36] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, that is what i did
[03:36] <abattoir> aniquila: either try getting a deb, or worst-case scenario, use alien to convert
[03:36] <abattoir> jmichaelx: your resolution is listed right?
[03:36] <abattoir> !br
[03:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:36] <aniquila> abattoir: alien? it's a program?
[03:36] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i hope i am not annoying you at all by asking to walk me through this.... i am scared to go it alone this time lol
[03:36] <abattoir> aniquila: maybe someone there can help you better
[03:36] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes, it is
[03:37] <abattoir> jmichaelx: heh, you can always reinstall :P
[03:37] <jmichaelx> 1280x800 32 bit is it (i think)
[03:37] <abattoir> aniquila: yes, alien is a program which converts rpm to deb
[03:37] <jmichaelx> abattoir: oh yeah, i know that
[03:37] <aniquila> abattoir: oww thanks
[03:37] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:38] <abattoir> jmichaelx: choose your res etc.
[03:38] <abattoir> aniquila: no problem :)
[03:38] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i never know how to answer all of these questions.....
[03:38] <jmichaelx> brb
[03:39] <abattoir> jmichaelx: use default if you dont know
[03:39] <abattoir> except for the resolution of course :)
[03:40] <abattoir> nikkiana: have you tried krita ?
[03:40] <_greg> yeah krita is the bomb
[03:41] <abattoir> nikkiana: i dont know if it is easier than gimp, but people say it is easy to use for common image manipulation tasks
[03:41] <draik> !krita > draik
[03:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about krita  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:41] <nikkiana> abattoir, yeah, i tried it but it wasn't exactly what i wanted either
[03:41] <aniquila> abattoir:  hey, where i find the alien?
[03:41] <abattoir> !info alien
[03:41] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[03:41] <abattoir> aniquila: 'sudo apt-get install alien'
[03:41] <abattoir> aniquila: or you can get if from adept
[03:42] <abattoir> aniquila: whichever you find easier :)
[03:42] <draik> what is the purpose to alien?
[03:42] <aniquila> abattoir: this program already install in my pc..
[03:42] <abattoir> draik: to convert b/w different packaging formats, rpms,debs etc.
[03:43] <abattoir> aniquila: good, the try 'alien file.rpm' ... wait i'll confirm that command
[03:43] <jmichaelx> abattoir: should i attempt monitor autodetection?
[03:43] <abattoir> jmichaelx: yeah sure, why not :P
[03:43] <jmichaelx> k
[03:43] <nikkiana> okay that was REALLY strange....
[03:44] <nikkiana> has anyone ever had their installation of kubuntu randomly log them out?
[03:44] <catadoxas> sounds wierd
[03:44] <abattoir> nikkiana: no i just had konqueror and yakuake just shutdown... w/o me doing anything... weird indeed
[03:44] <nikkiana> my screen went black command line style, asked for my password.... i gave it, then it popped me back into the login screen for Kubuntu
[03:44] <aniquila> abattoir: where's i put this command?
[03:45] <nikkiana> that was just.... bizzare.
[03:45] <draik> konsole
[03:45] <abattoir> aniquila: in a terminal.. konsole?
[03:45] <abattoir> aniquila: also put sudo before that
[03:45] <abattoir> aniquila: i think it'd be 'sudo alien -d filename.rpm
[03:45] <abattoir> 'sudo alien -d filename.rpm'
[03:45] <aniquila> abattoir:  ow thanks, i try it..
[03:46] <abattoir> aniquila: i'm sorry not exactly sure about the command, tell me if it works
[03:46] <timi> anyone know wht i use to change my bootsplash
[03:46] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, now how to i restar X?
[03:46] <abattoir> ok, something is weird, i'll relogin
[03:46] <jmichaelx> restart*
[03:46] <timi> cntrl alt backspace
[03:46] <metalhedd> whats one of those pages where you can paste logs/source code etc and get a link?
[03:46] <abattoir> jmichaelx: close all open applications, and do that ^^^
[03:46] <abattoir> !paste
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[03:47] <metalhedd> thanks!
[03:47] <timi> abattoir do you know how i cchange my bootsplash
[03:47] <jmichaelx> and do what? :-(
[03:47] <catadoxas> I cant seem to set my screen res higher than 1024x... why could that be?
[03:47] <abattoir> timi: well bootsplash is the term used for a lot of things... unfortunately
[03:47] <abattoir> timi: you mean, when kubuntu loads or when grub loads?
[03:48] <timi> like for the os
[03:48] <timi> kubuntu
[03:48] <draik> timi, do you mean the part with the desktop environment loading?
[03:48] <abattoir> timi: so after grub loads right? search in the ubuntu community docs for usplash
[03:48] <abattoir> brb
[03:48] <timi> draik
[03:48] <jmichaelx> catadoxas: what kind of video card do you have?
[03:48] <catadoxas> nvidia
[03:48] <timi> i changed my kdm and my splash screen
[03:48] <jmichaelx> hmm
[03:48] <catadoxas> 7800 gtx
[03:48] <timi> so im trying to change to the matching bootsplash
[03:49] <jmichaelx> catadoxas: then i am not the one to ask lol
[03:49] <draik> timi, http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=35&PHPSESSID=2c131782ffd06d68285810e22b3ca0e0
[03:49] <jmichaelx> abacan i just reboot at this point? i don't know how to restart X
[03:49] <timi> draik
[03:49] <draik> jmichaelx, CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[03:49] <timi> thats a spalsh screen
[03:49] <timi> i already changed that
[03:49] <jmichaelx> draik: ty
[03:50] <draik> jmichaelx, welcome
[03:50] <draik> timi, brb
[03:51] <jmichaelx> man, re-installing is a witch with a capital B
[03:51] <jmichaelx> i had such a hard time getting my wireless to work, here we go again
[03:52] <catadoxas> dont say it was metgear jmichal?
[03:52] <catadoxas> netgear
[03:53] <jmichaelx> catadoxas: no, an intel... broadcom
[03:54] <abattoir> jmichaelx: works??
[03:54] <timi> i just dl the tarball? for kbootsplash how do i compile it so its a program
[03:56] <jmichaelx> abattoir: so far, but have not yet rebooted
[03:56] <abattoir> jmichaelx: it worked last time too?
[03:56] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i'll let you know in a short bit
[03:56] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yeah, it worked until i rebooted
[03:56] <abattoir> jmichaelx: heh, keep your fingers crossed then :P
[03:57] <abattoir> timi: see the INSTALL file in the archive
[03:57] <timi> ok
[03:57] <abattoir> timi: mostly it'd be './configure', 'make' and 'sudo make install'
[03:58] <timi> ok
[03:59] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to install a new bootsplash?
[03:59] <timi> ahaha
[03:59] <timi> kr4t05 im currently trying to figure that out
[03:59] <timi> ive gotten as far as downloading aprogram for it
[04:00] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[04:00] <abattoir> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Change_Usplash might help you guys
[04:01] <abattoir> or even https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:02] <scabootssca> does anyone know how to remove all traces of grub?
[04:02] <scabootssca> and then reinstall it totally fresh.
[04:03] <bgrimm> is the msttcorefont package no longer available? i don't see it even with multiverse set in repositories.
[04:03] <abattoir> !info msttcorefonts
[04:03] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[04:04] <abattoir> scabootssca: 'sudo apt-get install --reintstall grub' ???
[04:05] <jmichaelx> abattoir: it looks like all is well, thank you so much for the help!
[04:05] <abattoir> jmichaelx: glad to be of help :)
[04:05] <abattoir> i guess you should have reconfigured X the first time
[04:05] <nikkiana> abattoir, thanks for making me take a second look at krita
[04:05] <abattoir> nikkiana: hehe
[04:06] <abattoir> nikkiana: i should do that one of these days too :P
[04:06] <scabootssca> abattoir: it didnt refresh anything the menu.lst is still the same
[04:06] <nikkiana> abattoir, i can see a few things that need improvement with it but i'm not getting nearly as frusterated with it as i have been with the gimp
[04:06] <abattoir> scabootssca: you want a 'stock' menu.lst file?
[04:07] <scabootssca> i want the grub instalation just like it would be when it gets first installed by setup
[04:07] <Kr4t05> scabootssca: use "--purge"
[04:07] <scabootssca> grub --purge?
[04:08] <Kr4t05> nonono
[04:08] <scabootssca> what?
[04:08] <scabootssca> just --purge?
[04:08] <Kr4t05> 'sudo apt-get remove --purge grub'
[04:08] <scabootssca> ahh ok
[04:08] <Kr4t05> then, "sudo apt-get install grub
[04:08] <Kr4t05> "
[04:10] <scabootssca> sudo apt-get install grub
[04:11] <scabootssca> ok how do i make the grub install my zp partition on hdb?
[04:11] <scabootssca> zp = xp
[04:11] <scabootssca> win xp
[04:12] <scabootssca> any ideas?
[04:15] <draik> timi, how goes your usplash?
[04:15] <nikkiana> how difficult is it to install true type fonts?
[04:16] <draik> Anyone here know of any school/courses that teach Linux and it's basics?
[04:17] <dpt> I can't get amarom to play mp3 because lib...extracodes isn't find after elminating all # in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:17] <dpt> i can't find that package and i have already enabled all repositories
[04:17] <dpt> is there any repository that i have to add manually?
[04:17] <draik> dpt, have you enable multiverse on your repository?
[04:19] <dpt> let me check
[04:20] <Hobbsee> dpt: put multiverse after every universe in your sources list
[04:20] <Kr4t05> Ok,
[04:20] <Kr4t05> How do I change the KDM theme?
[04:22] <draik> dpt, as Hobbsee said, just double-click on the universe repo's and add 'multiverse' at the end and press ENTER
[04:22] <draik> followed by Fetch Updates and you'll be fine
[04:22] <dpt> it worked, thanks a lot
[04:23] <draik> yw, dpt
[04:26] <intelikey> anybody use paul ?
[04:27] <nikkiana> or at least krita would be nice if it weren't prone to crashing on my computer... le sigh.
[04:31] <ubuntu> i need to remaster kubuntu- where is the best source of information for the 6 release?
[04:32] <abattoir> !classroom
[04:32] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[04:32] <abattoir> draik: ^^^^ might be interested
[04:32] <draik> abattoir, interested?!?! That's like saying the ocean is a bit damp
[04:33] <abattoir> hehe
[04:33] <josh__> there is NO bass when i play music
[04:33] <josh__> whats going on here
[04:33] <josh__> hold on i'm going to reboot
[04:33] <abattoir> josh__: there is always bass :P you probably are not hearing it ;)
[04:33] <josh__> no, there isn't bass
[04:34] <josh__> i cant hear it
[04:34] <josh__> but i have the alsa drivers installed
[04:34] <josh__> maybe that has something to do with it?
[04:34] <josh__> k brb gonna reboot
[04:35] <ubuntu_> oops should probably change nick^^ /nick then new nick right?
[04:35] <intelikey> 
[04:36] <Azzco> there okay I'm back to kubuntu after giving microsoft a second chance...I still have one problem though...games...I normally only play one game and I really don't want to keep windows just becuase of one game :(
[04:36] <Hobbsee> Azzco: which game?
[04:36] <Azzco> Unreal tournament
[04:36] <helpplz> I dont get any sound when trying to play quake :( anyone now how I can get it?
[04:37] <Azzco> I can't get open gl to work correctly or something
[04:37] <Azzco> got a i915 chipset I think
[04:37] <draik> Hmmm... Is your Unreal Tournament supportive for Linux?
[04:37] <Azzco> yupp
[04:37] <MojoRison> hello
[04:37] <draik> I have UT2004
[04:38] <Azzco> it's my configs that aint right...
[04:38] <Azzco> I need proper drivers for my i915 chipset it seems...can't find much help in the forums...
[04:38] <draik> Lemme check the specs of the game...
[04:38] <Azzco> there was this thread...but the guy got some help and didn't tell what he did
[04:38] <Azzco> okay
[04:39] <Dodger_> are we talking the original UT or 2004?
[04:39] <MojoRison> can anyone help me....reinstalled ubuntu and having problems getting codecs for totem....kaffeine is working fine....but totem not so much
[04:39] <Azzco> original
[04:39] <Azzco> but I've got the same problem with both of them =P
[04:39] <Dodger_> and what's the problem, exactly?
[04:40] <Azzco> it says something about missing 00 glx thingy...
[04:40] <Azzco> I got it to work once...that was when I had just installed kubuntu but the graphics was horrible
[04:40] <Azzco> and it had autodetected i915 chipset so I switched to that and didn't get it to work since...
[04:41] <Dodger_> horrible as in slow?
[04:41] <Azzco> slow, big pixels you name it
[04:42] <scabootssca> how do i add windows xp to my grub boot menu?
[04:42] <scabootssca> without manually editing the menu.lst file?
[04:43] <justinperr> im kinda new to kubuntu and i set up wine and out of nowhere it keeps telling me that "Application tried to create a window, but no driver coudl be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly
[04:44] <intelikey> scabootssca did it not work for you ?
[04:44] <scabootssca> it just sits there and showd the windows entry in thje boot.lst file and flashes a little corsor
[04:44] <scabootssca> and does nothing
[04:45] <intelikey> scabootssca bios does see both drive doesn't it?  cause if not grub can't boot it.  you will have to use lilo
[04:45] <scabootssca> bios knows both drivers are there
[04:45] <Dodger_> Azzco: try "sudo aptitude search i915" to see if there's anything related to that in one of the repositories you have
[04:46] <scabootssca> and i'll use lilo if i can gwtr it to work i really dont care
[04:46] <scabootssca> i just want something to work
[04:46] <Dodger_> and you actually don't need to sudo that, aptitude should work without
[04:46] <Azzco> thx dodger
[04:47] <Azzco> I'll write it down...(currently reinstalling kubuntu)
[04:47] <scabootssca> so i'm ready to try lilo how do i start
[04:47] <intelikey> scabootssca yeah try lilo
[04:47] <Dodger_> it looks like there's source for it, so if you're familiar with compiling your own kernel module
[04:47] <intelikey> scabootssca install it.
[04:47] <intelikey> scabootssca sudo apt-get install lilo
[04:48] <Azzco> Dodger_: well not really =s
[04:48] <scabootssca> ok done
[04:48] <Azzco> okay I'll be back in a while Rebooting
[04:49] <helpplz> I dont get any sound in quake3.. how can I get the sound to work?
[04:49] <intelikey> scabootssca in one terminal open  man lilo.conf     in another  sudo nano /etc/lilo.conf
[04:50] <scabootssca> ok
[04:50] <intelikey> scabootssca also it would help to know what's in /boot    so    ls /boot   for us please
[04:51] <scabootssca> what?
[04:51] <intelikey> !pastebin
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[04:52] <intelikey> pastebin the output of   ls /boot
[04:53] <scabootssca> ok done ->> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18830
[04:54] <intelikey> scabootssca are you starting with a blank lilo.conf ?
[04:55] <intelikey> or did the installer build you an example lilo.conf ???
[04:55] <scabootssca> i dunno
[04:56] <scabootssca> how do i check
[04:56] <scabootssca> sorry for sounding so stupid
[04:57] <Azzco> it's okay we've all been/are there ;)
[04:57] <intelikey> scabootssca you have   sudo nano /etc/lilo.conf   open   is there anything in it ?
[04:58] <scabootssca> it's not empty
[04:58] <scabootssca> so yeah
[04:58] <scabootssca> there's stuff in it
[04:59] <intelikey> ok  is there a line with  "image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386"  and some perams below it ?
[04:59] <intelikey> i'm trying to make this as easy for you as i can, so bare with me.
[05:01] <scabootssca> ok i see the line
[05:01] <scabootssca> and tanks for making it easy
[05:01] <intelikey> scabootssca have a look at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d18831     that should work for you.    you do have linux on hda1  correct ?
[05:02] <intelikey> try cp /etc/lilo.conf .   and put that in it's place.
[05:02] <intelikey> that should make it easy enough.
[05:04] <intelikey> you can clear the nano buffer with ^k    that's ctrl-k cuts one line at a time...  with the mouse copy and paste in that pastebin ^  save and exit.    run   sudo lilo     it will tell you if there are errors.    if no errors   you should be ready to dual boot.
[05:04] <Azzco> Dodger_:  you still there?
[05:05] <scabootssca> linux linux is on hda1 ya
[05:05] <intelikey> scabootssca any questions or problems  just let me know.
[05:05] <rocketman768> why can I not mount an ntfs partition? I type 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 -t ntfs /windows' and it tells me hda1 is already mounted (which it's not) or that /windows is busy (if it means locked, it's not). What's the problem?
[05:06] <scabootssca> ok thanjks
[05:06] <intelikey> rocketman768 does /windows  exist ?    ls /
[05:06] <rocketman768> yes, i created it
[05:06] <rocketman768> i can't even get it to mount using kubuntu's nice graphical utility
[05:06] <intelikey> and   ls / shows it ?
[05:06] <rocketman768> yes
[05:07] <intelikey> ok does  mount    show any line with /dev/hda1   in it ?
[05:07] <rocketman768> nope
[05:08] <elijahlofgren> rocketman768: You could try running  sudo fdisk -l     to make sure that windows is on /dev/hda1
[05:08] <rocketman768> i did that, and yes, hda1 is an ntfs partition
[05:08] <intelikey> ok does dd if=/dev/hda1 count=1 | less  show the partition table ?   just in case a module is not loaded or the device node is missing...
[05:10] <rocketman768> it shows a bunch of gobbledy gook
[05:10] <intelikey> only other question is    did you run sudo mount /dev/hda1 /windows     or just mount blah.   ?
[05:10] <rocketman768> with some things like "ntldr is missing"
[05:10] <elijahlofgren> rocketman768: I tried running that and get a bunch of junk and then 3 errors. But mounting works fine for me.
[05:10] <rocketman768> 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 -t ntfs /windows'
[05:10] <rocketman768> is what i ran
[05:11] <rocketman768> and i also tried editing the fstab, but to no avail
[05:11] <elijahlofgren> rocketman768: Running that works for me fine. (Windows for me is on sda1 though)
[05:11] <intelikey> sudo modprobe ntfs    ?
[05:11] <elijahlofgren> rocketman768: Does booting into Windows work fine?
[05:11] <rocketman768> works fine
[05:12] <rocketman768> intelikey: what's the output supposed to be?
[05:12] <intelikey> on which ?
[05:12] <rocketman768> modprobe ntfs
[05:12] <intelikey> none
[05:12] <rocketman768> ok, got none
[05:12] <intelikey> no error is no error
[05:13] <intelikey> try mounting again
[05:13] <elijahlofgren> rocketman768: Maybe try: sudo umount /dev/hda1
[05:13] <rocketman768> same thing
[05:13] <intelikey> without -t
[05:13] <rocketman768> umount says it's not mounted
[05:13] <rocketman768> without -t gives the same error
[05:14] <elijahlofgren> rocketman768: Maybe try mounting it somewhere else, like /mnt/windows
[05:14] <rocketman768> did that too
[05:14] <intelikey> well you've got a dandy     let me recap  just for a minute.
[05:15] <intelikey> the partition and device nodes check ok.  module is inserted,  mount point exists....   it does boot  so there is no structural dammage....  hmmm
[05:15] <rocketman768> correct
[05:16] <intelikey> encripted ?
[05:16] <rocketman768> and like i said, kubuntu's graphical thing even gives me the same error
[05:16] <rocketman768> no, i used to mount this partition just fine under breezy
[05:17] <intelikey> then i'd say you have found a bug.     don't know if it's in mount or your kernel....
[05:17] <intelikey> uname -r
[05:18] <rocketman768> it's a custom kernel, so it's very likely there, although i don't know how
[05:18] <rocketman768> 2.6.15.7
[05:18] <intelikey> and generally speaking it's much better to NOT use the -t option on mount.
[05:18] <intelikey> rocketman768 no ntfs support.    lsmod
[05:19] <intelikey> or  lsmod | grep ntfs
[05:19] <scabootssca> intelikey: it still starts up in grub
[05:19] <rocketman768> it's there
[05:19] <intelikey> scabootssca did you run    sudo lilo    ?
[05:19] <rocketman768> ntfs                  108016  0
[05:19] <scabootssca> ?
[05:20] <flaccid__> hmm
[05:20] <intelikey> rocketman768 idk.
[05:20] <rocketman768> i hate dapper
[05:20] <scabootssca> i just did
[05:20] <flaccid__> i love dapper lol
[05:20] <flaccid__> dang
[05:20] <intelikey> scabootssca you must run    sudo lilo    to activate it and also after changes to lilo.conf
[05:20] <rocketman768> i shoulda known better and just got the damn kde upgrade
[05:21] <flaccid__> it'll make ya stronger
[05:21] <rocketman768> lol, sure
[05:21] <scabootssca> intelikey: it said Added Linux* Added Windows*
[05:21] <scabootssca> i'll restart again
[05:21] <intelikey> scabootssca it will test the boot parametor and if they all pass show the list of boot options if it errors then it doesn't install the new mbr.
[05:24] <bigfoot1> 	i put the floppy disk into the A: drive. now what do i do to read/access save files onto it?
[05:25] <intelikey> mount it
[05:25] <bigfoot1> how do i mount?+
[05:25] <francis3d> hey
[05:25] <RawSewage> how do I make certain programs start at startup
[05:26] <elijahlofgren> RawSewage: Login to KDE or PC boot-up?
[05:26] <RawSewage> login
[05:26] <intelikey> sudo mkdir /media/floppy ;sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy -o umaks=0
[05:26] <intelikey> raw init scripts
[05:26] <RawSewage> elijahlofgren, I like to start with an empty session
[05:26] <RawSewage> intelikey, xfce has a nice app that does it
[05:26] <RawSewage> hm
[05:26] <francis3d> oh shit
[05:26] <flaccid__> RawSewage: KDE Autostart
[05:26] <francis3d> nerds
[05:26] <RawSewage> ok ty
[05:27] <flaccid__> make symlink in ~/.Autostart
[05:27] <intelikey> ok .kde/startup/  scripts
[05:27] <joel> hey guys, im having a problem where my system keeps repeating a certain keystroke
[05:27] <joel> anyone know how to fix it?
[05:27] <francis3d> this is my firt day using kubuntu
[05:27] <bigfoot1> intelikey: thanks
[05:27] <RawSewage> intelikey, I dont know any scripting
[05:27] <bigfoot1> now how do i go there in nautilus?
[05:27] <francis3d> i love it
[05:27] <flaccid__> sorry ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:27] <RawSewage> I want an app
[05:28] <joel> it seems to be pasting whats on my clipboard over and over again
[05:28] <RawSewage> is KDE Autostart an app
[05:28] <flaccid__> RawSewage: create symlink in the Autostart folder, kde will launch all symlinks in that folder on kde start
[05:28] <flaccid__> i guess it is an app yes
[05:28] <RawSewage> I dont know how to do that
[05:28] <rr72> only bash coding tho?
[05:28] <RawSewage> xfce has a nice easy autostart app.  I though KDE would too
[05:29] <flaccid__> RawSewage: open the folder in konqueror right click and select link to application
[05:29] <RawSewage> there we go
[05:29] <RawSewage> kcontrol-autostart
[05:29] <intelikey> RawSewage kde probably has one.   look in 'system settings'    kde help   has a search feature.    i don't use a GUI much...
[05:29] <flaccid__> RawSewage: Autostart is nice...
[05:29] <bigfoot1> how come i can't save onto the floppy?
[05:29] <RawSewage> installing now
[05:29] <RawSewage> ok ty
[05:30] <RawSewage> intelikey, Im a Windows moron
[05:30] <RawSewage> I dont use the terminal much
[05:30] <elijahlofgren> RawSewage: Then you'll want to run: kcontrol instead of clicking on "System Settings" in the menu.
[05:30] <RawSewage> elijahlofgren, theres an app:  kcontrol-autostart
[05:30] <RawSewage> which Im now installing
[05:30] <intelikey> i don't use the terminal much either..... console user here....
[05:31] <RawSewage> are those different
[05:31] <RawSewage> I thought it was the same thing
[05:31] <elijahlofgren> RawSewage: yep, and it'll show up in the kcontrol program under KDE Components -> Autostart Applications
[05:32] <RawSewage> elijahlofgren, it's there now
[05:32] <flaccid__> hmm i don't have that on this kde
[05:32] <RawSewage> I dont think it's there by default on Dapper
[05:33] <elijahlofgren> It's not. You have it install kcontrol-autostart.
[05:33] <aeon17x> where can I find my system properties in KDE?
[05:33] <scabootssca> intelikey, thanks it worked
[05:33] <scabootssca> i'm on windows now
[05:33] <RawSewage> ok, another question:  I enter the app name.  then it wants a command.  what do I need to enter for the command, if I just want it to run
[05:33] <scabootssca> and linux boots also
[05:33] <flaccid__> RawSewage: enter the location of the command
[05:34] <elijahlofgren> RawSewage: Enter the app name in Lowercase letters. I.E for Gaim enter "gaim"
[05:34] <RawSewage> oh
[05:34] <RawSewage> ok ty
[05:34] <intelikey> scabootssca welcome
[05:34] <flaccid__> ^ if command is in path
[05:34] <elijahlofgren> aeon17x: System info?
[05:34] <aeon17x> elijahlofgren: yup, system info
[05:34] <elijahlofgren> aeon17x: "K Menu -> System -> KInfoCenter
[05:34] <RawSewage> Ok, I'll test it
[05:35] <aeon17x> elijahlofgren: that would be the device manager
[05:35] <aeon17x> I'm just looking for system properties, like what distro I'm using, linux version, etc
[05:36] <elijahlofgren> aeon17x: If you run "kcontrol" it shows that data on the opening screen.
[05:36] <RawSewage> ok, so what did I do wrong
[05:36] <aeon17x> elijahlofgren: alright, thanks
[05:36] <RawSewage> the command for konversation would be what
[05:36] <intelikey> aeon17x uname -a && lsb_release -a
[05:36] <elijahlofgren> RawSewage: konversation ;)
[05:37] <RawSewage> Name I put  Konversation    command I put konversation
[05:37] <RawSewage> didnt work
[05:37] <elijahlofgren> RawSewage: Hmm. Try /usr/bin/konversation
[05:37] <RawSewage> ok
[05:37] <intelikey>  /usr/bin/konversation
[05:38] <scabootsscsa_> and now i'm back on linux
[05:38] <elijahlofgren> RawSewage: To find where a program is type "whereis programname", ie "whereis konversation" into a Terminal.
[05:38] <RawSewage> ok, cool
[05:38] <intelikey> scabootsscsa_  you and your spook
[05:38] <RawSewage> btw, when I start up Kubuntu, I notice a bouncy Konversation icon when it's starting
[05:39] <RawSewage> I wonder what that is
[05:39] <RawSewage> oh, nm
[05:39] <RawSewage> it's not the Konversation icon
[05:39] <RawSewage> its the KDE icon
[05:39] <RawSewage> ok, restarting
[05:39] <scabootsscsa_> AHH I AM MY GHOST
[05:40] <scabootsscsa_> and caps lock is on sorry
[05:40] <unstablesob> anyone know of a good podcast client for kde?
[05:40] <intelikey> yup
[05:40] <Kr4t05> unstablesob: amarok
[05:40] <intelikey> :)
[05:41] <RawSewage> that didnt work.  it says it has no TYPE
[05:41] <RawSewage> weird
[05:41] <RawSewage> so I guess konversation alone would work
[05:43] <intelikey> RawSewage starting it from the command line might need some switches   --server blah --port #  --nick name   and so forth    but are you sure you want konversation to start automatically ?
[05:43] <RawSewage> intelikey, yes
[05:44] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Ping
[05:44] <intelikey> maybe just an icon on the desktop/taskbar ???
[05:44] <DaSkreech> No stirring today folks :0
[05:44] <RawSewage> no
[05:44] <intelikey> ok.
[05:44] <aseigo> DaSkreech: gnip
[05:45] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Kcontrol is being tanked?
[05:45] <rocketman768> anybody ever seen
[05:45] <aseigo> DaSkreech: likely, yes.
[05:45] <b_> how do i tell what programs are running
[05:45] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Likely replacement ?
[05:45] <b_> like for windows theirs a taks manager how do i find what programs are runnin on linux
[05:45] <RawSewage> lol
[05:45] <aseigo> DaSkreech: don't know for sure yet.
[05:46] <rocketman768> anybody ever seen, "modprobe: FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15.7/modules.dep no such file or directory" during bootup?
[05:46] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Sings along and turns up the karoke
[05:46] <RawSewage> aseigo, did you watch that Shatner video
[05:46] <RawSewage> ok, restarting
[05:46] <aseigo> RawSewage: which one?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Sooo we are going back to hand rolled vi configs?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Or that will be addressed in time
[05:47] <aseigo> DaSkreech: heheh.. you know it ;)
[05:47] <aseigo> DaSkreech: nah... kcm is being worked on ... become KSettings* (e.g. KSettingsWidget, etc)
[05:47] <aseigo> DaSkreech: the question remaining is what the shell application will be to replace kcontrol itself
[05:48] <aseigo> DaSkreech: we're still at least 4 months away from needing to write that though
[05:48] <RawSewage> aseigo, Shatner singing Rocket Man
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Ah So plenty of time to start a bidding war over who wants to write it :)
[05:48] <RawSewage> Ok, I did it the way you all told me to do it orignially.  go to the Autostart folder and make a symlink
[05:48] <aseigo> DaSkreech: kcm -> kcontrolmodule .. it's what the programmer sees
[05:49] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Ah Goodness then :)
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Just need a koolness wrap around for it
[05:49] <b_> how do i tell what programs are running????????????
[05:50] <Kr4t05> b_: run "top" from the konsole.
[05:50] <DaSkreech> b_: Ctrl+esc
[05:50] <BradZ> Hey.  Is it just the ~/.kde, ~/.kderc and ~/.qt directories I need to rsync to get identical KDE configs running on different hosts?
[05:50] <BradZ> Or is there a nicer profile sync type tool out there?
[05:50] <b_> ty
[05:51] <DaSkreech> aseigo: I take it that Knoware is dead?
[05:52] <aseigo> DaSkreech: no idea
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Hmm OK
[05:53] <intelikey> xtop
[05:54] <intelikey> scabootsscsa_ your spook timed out
[05:57] <scabootsscsa_> oh well
[06:06] <|brad|> has anyone installed swat in kubuntu before?
[06:07] <Cornellius> swat ?
[06:07] <|brad|> samba web admin tool
[06:07] <|brad|> used it all day when i used slackware
[06:07] <|brad|> tried to install samba on a friends kubuntu box and got a headache
[06:07] <Kadran> hi how to install chineese keyboard layout?
[06:08] <|brad|> he is a n00b so it didnt help that i had a hard time with swat when i said linux was awesome
[06:09] <xylus> hey anyone know what those programs that show stuff on yr desktop are called?
[06:09] <|brad|> karamba
[06:10] <xylus> like ittel have a picture of a harddrive and next to it ittel show cpu speed and stuff
[06:10] <xylus> suck right on your desktop
[06:10] <xylus> can anyone help me find out how to do th?at
[06:10] <|brad|> http://bradleyalanprice.com/images/snapshot.png <--- you mean like that thing
[06:10] <xylus> hold on i check :)
[06:11] <xylus> yes exactley!
[06:11] <xylus> how brad :)
[06:11] <jmichaelx> can anyone help me out on getting a broadcom wireless card working with ndiswrapper? i had the thing working well, but i had to reinstall, and now nothing i do is working
[06:12] <xylus> brad please help me i would verrymuch apreciate it
[06:12] <|brad|> install superkaramba with adept
[06:12] <OOD> xylus: the program that displays those widgets\gadgets is called superkaramba
[06:12] <xylus> ok thats it?
[06:12] <xylus> can i use that on a debian system cuz im soon switching over to deb
[06:12] <|brad|> then it will show up in kmenu > utilities
[06:12] <xylus> rather than kubunto
[06:13] <xylus> ok ill check out superkaramba
[06:13] <|brad|> then go to kde-look.org and download a theme or do it within karamba itself
[06:13] <xylus> sudo apt-get install superkaramba?
[06:13] <ironfroggy> is the behavior of actually putting files and such inside a mountpoint consistant?
[06:13] <|brad|> xylus: yes sir
[06:13] <ironfroggy> or will mounting and unmounting there suddenly cause all my files to just get scrapped.
[06:14] <xylus> thanks alot brad you say kde-look.org download a theme rite on much ablidged\
[06:14] <|brad|> not a prob man
[06:27] <orient2000> what does it mean karamba? Is it maybe from spanish?
[06:27] <|brad|> not likely spanish tho
[06:33] <ironfroggy> what happens if i disable swap but there isnt enough room in ram for everything?>
[06:34] <crimsun> stuff gets killed.
[06:35] <ironfroggy> ack
[06:36] <ironfroggy> is there a way to tell if there is enough room and disable swap if there is?
[06:36] <ironfroggy> or more preferably, to say "turn the swap off, but if you have any trouble, just dont mess with it!"
[06:36] <ironfroggy> because im planning on enabling and disabling my swap frequently.
[06:37] <|brad|> not sure what the point of tha tis
[06:37] <ironfroggy> reducing battery usage
[06:38] <ironfroggy> plus experimenting with the use of USB keys as temporary swap devices
[06:38] <xylus> brad
[06:38] <xylus> u still around bro?
[06:38] <|brad|> yea whats up
[06:39] <xylus> oh not much i just tryed to download a transparent theme from the website u gave me but i not sure how to install them
[06:39] <ironfroggy> my hope is that i can increase the length of my laptop's battery life by setting up some scripts to disable swap whenever im only running on battery power.
[06:39] <xylus> but thats not realy my question
[06:39] <xylus> i was just curious that superprogram is that only for adding desktop applets like the cpu monitor and stuff?
[06:39] <xylus> or do i have to download them or make them
[06:40] <|brad|> open karamba and click "open local theme" and browse to the extracted archieve that you downloaded
[06:40] <abattoir> xylus: superprogram?
[06:40] <abattoir> oh, you mean superkaramba... ok :)
[06:40] <xylus> i tryed apt-get superkaramba
[06:40] <|brad|> abattoir: superkaramb
[06:40] <xylus> but it said something like this
[06:40] <abattoir> !info superkaramba
[06:40] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[06:41] <abattoir> xylus: it is in the universe repository, make sure you have enabled that
[06:41] <xylus> Go to Control Center
[06:41] <xylus> Select "Appearance & Themes"
[06:41] <xylus> Select "Splash Screen"
[06:41] <xylus> Click "Add..."
[06:41] <xylus> Browse for the downloaded file
[06:41] <xylus> Select the new Theme
[06:41] <xylus> Restart KDE
[06:41] <xylus> Have fun! :-)
[06:41] <xylus> For questions check: http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdebase/ksplashml/index.html
[06:41] <abattoir> xylus: those are for ksplash
[06:41] <xylus> 
[06:41] <xylus>  link
[06:41] <xylus> oops
[06:41] <xylus> wrong paste lmfao
[06:41] <xylus> nyways it says i have a dpkg problem
[06:41] <xylus> whe ni try to apt get the file
[06:41] <abattoir> not for superkaramba
[06:42] <|brad|> man that confused the hell outta me
[06:42] <xylus> sorry i dont even know what a universe repository is lolz
[06:42] <abattoir> !universe
[06:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:42] <xylus> <---- total noob wants to pimp out desktop a bit lol
[06:42] <xylus> !info superkaurmba
[06:42] <ubotu> Package superkaurmba does not exist in dapper
[06:42] <abattoir> xylus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:43] <xylus> whats a dapper?
[06:43] <claydoh> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2192
[06:43] <abattoir> xylus: while you are at it, enable multiverse too
[06:43] <xylus> yes abattoir
[06:43] <abattoir> xylus: that is the code name of the latest stable version of ubuntu... Dapper Drake
[06:43] <xylus> aww allright i thought it was some l33t programming or something lol
[06:44] <xylus> dapper sounds l33t enuph to me
[06:44] <xylus> hahaha
[06:44] <|brad|> haha
[06:44] <xylus> ok anyway sorry to bother u guys all i realy wana know is what superkarumba is, does and where i can manualy download it pweese
[06:44] <|brad|> ugh this torrent is stuck at 99.9%
[06:45] <abattoir> Superkaramba is a software which allows you to run small 'themes' on top of it, these themes are shown on your desktop...
[06:45] <|brad|> follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu and then install it with adept
[06:45] <xylus> lol im downloading torrents of the deb os i dont like kubuntu so much\
[06:45] <|brad|> kubuntu is real easy
[06:45] <abattoir> |brad|: azureus?
[06:45] <xylus> kk thanks :) ill figure it all out any dependencys i should know about
[06:46] <|brad|> i ran slackware for like 4 years kubuntu is real easy
[06:46] <|brad|> abattoir: no Ktorrent
[06:46] <abattoir> |brad|: oh ok, because i heard its a common problem w/ azureus :)
[06:47] <timi> what kind of file ends with -sh
[06:47] <|brad|> well this is the 2nd time tonight a torrent got stuck at 99% so maybe its a ktorrent prob too...
[06:47] <|brad|> shell script
[06:48] <timi> is that is used to install a program
[06:48] <|brad|> could be
[06:48] <|brad|> open it in a text editor and see what it does
[06:48] <xylus> herm cant do anything with the apt program due to allredy in use
[06:49] <xylus> would that mean i should shut down my ktorrent?
[06:49] <abattoir> xylus: no, is adept running in the background?
[06:49] <|brad|> yea what he said
[06:49] <xylus> i dont think so
[06:49] <|brad|> sweet jesus its done!
[06:50] <xylus> lol
[06:50] <abattoir> xylus: are you using apt-get or adept/
[06:50] <abattoir> ?
[06:50] <xylus> oh i see
[06:50] <xylus> i have a apt notification in my taskbar
[06:50] <|brad|> sounds like both at the same time
[06:50] <xylus> from when i installed everyprogram on the list lol
[06:50] <|brad|> oh snap
[06:50] <xylus> yeah i opened up apt and downloaded everything listed lolz
[06:51] <xylus> i got tired of thigns sayin i dident have dependencys
[06:51] <xylus> so i download it all
[06:51] <xylus> lol
[06:51] <xylus> linux pisses me off alot but im still prety new at it
[06:51] <xylus> plus i like how u can do anything with linux whereas windows is just a gamestation lol
[06:51] <xylus> too bad theirs zero games for linux unless your running a win em and those are retarded to get running
[06:52] <xylus> nyways thanks for all your help guys\
[06:52] <Hawkwind> Zero games ?
[06:52] <xylus> means no games for linux
[06:52] <Hawkwind> There happen to be MANY linux games
[06:52] <xylus> no good ones atleast
[06:52] <xylus> yeah but their all made with paint
[06:52] <xylus> and some atari graphics
[06:52] <Hawkwind> Good is a matter of personal opinion
[06:52] <xylus> or 8 bit
[06:52] <|brad|> lol
[06:52] <Hawkwind> No they aren't
[06:52] <xylus> hahaha nods..
[06:52] <|brad|> quake3
[06:52] <Hawkwind> Quake 4, quake 3 aren't made with that junk
[06:52] <xylus> wow theirs a winner brad
[06:52] <xylus> lol quake and how old is that pos?
[06:53] <xylus> like 8 years or something
[06:53] <Hawkwind> Ok, so you're trolling
[06:53] <|brad|> you cant go wrong with quake man
[06:53] <xylus> lmfao
[06:53] <xylus> perhaps but it would be nice to be able to run some games that arnt more than 5 yrs old :)
[06:53] <Hawkwind> Maybe you should do a bit of reading then.  There are literally tons of games that work for Linux
[06:53] <abattoir> quake 4 is 5 yrs. old? :S
[06:53] <xylus> maby i should take up programming and do soemthing about it lolz
[06:53] <timi> how do you cd to a directory
[06:54] <xylus> yeah i know hawk
[06:54] <Hawkwind> timi: cd /directory
[06:54] <xylus> but like i said befor their all crappy games like jewl or tetris or pong or treasureisland
[06:54] <xylus> or 8 bit rpg's
[06:54] <xylus> lol
[06:54] <xylus> or somethign made with python
[06:54] <xylus> i seen a fiew good ones tho
[06:54] <Hawkwind> Then it's obvious you have no clue what you're talking about
[06:55] <xylus> hawk
[06:55] <osiris> question is......do i kill my 52 day uptime for kubuntu ?
[06:55] <xylus> name one decent game you can play on linux
[06:55] <Hawkwind> osiris: Yes
[06:55] <xylus> and ill take back everything
[06:55] <osiris> ut2k4
[06:55] <xylus> ;)
[06:55] <abattoir> xylus: hmmm, python is a powerful OO language.. but hmm, i'm not getting involved into this troll-fest
[06:55] <abattoir> hmm hmmm
[06:55] <xylus> hahaha
[06:55] <Hawkwind> xylus: I don't game.  But there are tons and tons of games that are linux native.  Do some damn research and stop trolling
[06:55] <osiris> xylus, lot of em....ever use emulators
[06:55] <xylus> troll?
[06:55] <xylus> yeah
[06:55] <xylus> i mean without emulators
[06:56] <xylus> tho
[06:56] <|brad|> oh man, this got ugly fast
[06:56] <osiris> there are lots of good games that play on linux
[06:56] <xylus> lol
[06:56] <osiris> |brad|, nice name
[06:56] <xylus> osiris know any?
[06:56] <timi> when i do cd /home/timi it says its not a directory
[06:56] <abattoir> xylus: this is what dpkg has to say about trolls....
 extra, extra, read all about it, troll is In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who posts rude or offensive messages on the Internet, such as in online discussion forums, to disrupt discussion or to upset its participants. "Troll" can also mean the message itself or be a verb meaning to post such messages. "Trolling" is also commonly used to describe the activity.
[06:56] <Hawkwind> timi: Is timi your users name on the system ?
[06:57] <timi> yeah
[06:57] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Nice!
[06:57] <xylus> lol
[06:57] <timi> im trying to install a program
[06:57] <|brad|> osiris: what? huh?
[06:57] <Hawkwind> timi: Maybe you are already in that directory ?
[06:57] <abattoir> Hawkwind: heh, dpkg rocks :)
[06:57] <osiris> xylus, street figter 2, zelda 3, mario, sim city 3000, doom 3, ut2k4, quake 3, what do you want
[06:57] <xylus> i thanks for the lesson abattoir ill shuddap now XD
[06:57] <timi> im just in console and ti sjut is the regular console
[06:57] <osiris> |brad|, tis my proper name
[06:57] <xylus> lmfgdao doom quake streetfighter 2!!! hahaha omg
[06:57] <xylus> those arnt games
[06:58] <Hawkwind> timi: Then you're already in your users home directory
[06:58] <Hawkwind> timi: Type:  pwd
[06:58] <abattoir> xylus: you could always go to #kubuntu-offtopic and troll all you want :P
[06:58] <Hawkwind> It will tell you Present Working Directory
[06:58] <timi> ahh ok
[06:58] <timi> thanks
[06:58] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Until they get tired of him there and kick him out of there too :)
[06:58] <abattoir> Hawkwind: hehe, maybe... :P
[06:58] <xylus> sorry abattoir i just frustrated when people say theirs lots of games for linux and then they name off a buncha crap from like 5+ years ago lol
[06:59] <xylus> i dont wana jamm something i played to death when i was 10 yrs old lol
[06:59] <xylus> nyways sorry about that
[06:59] <xylus> my apologys
[06:59] <xylus> ill take my leave now
[06:59] <abattoir> xylus: depends on your taste for eg. there is a game called Flight gear which is the best flight simulator game that i've ever seen
[07:00] <osiris> and Im a huge quake/UT fan
[07:00] <timi> so is desktop not a directory
[07:00] <bobstro> xylus:  there are games for linux, but i've never seen it described as the premiere game platform.
[07:00] <osiris> i HAVE all the linux gaming i need
[07:00] <|brad|> CS will run with wine
[07:00] <abattoir> xylus: you must realise that people get irritated when you say linux has zero games and is retarded to work with :)
[07:00] <Hawkwind> timi: It's probably Desktop
[07:00] <Hawkwind> timi: Remember, linux is case sensitive
[07:00] <timi> o
[07:01] <|brad|> especially in a linux channel
[07:01] <abattoir> xylus: ... when most people find it otherwise :P
[07:02] <abattoir> xylus: anyways, welcome to linux, we hope you enjoy your stay ;)
[07:02] <timi> to configure the directory do just add /configure
[07:02] <|brad|> mmmm beer is good
[07:02] <abattoir> hehe, good night Hawkwind :)
[07:02] <timi> or is it space then ./configure
[07:02] <Hawkwind> timi: No, ./configure
[07:02] <timi> ok
[07:02] <Hawkwind> timi: What are you trying to compile ?
[07:02] <timi> kbootsplash
[07:02] <Hawkwind> !info kbootsplash
[07:02] <ubotu> Package kbootsplash does not exist in dapper
[07:02] <Hawkwind> !info kbootsplash edgy
[07:03] <ubotu> Package kbootsplash does not exist in edgy
[07:03] <xylus> lol nono dont take me the wrong way abattoir i love linux blows windowz out the water and linux isent hard to work with its actualy not bad aside from all the confusion with software dependencys
[07:03] <xylus> all i said was that installing a emulator is a hastle and hard to work with
[07:04] <xylus> the only downfall linux has is zero gameing cappabilitys
[07:04] <abattoir> xylus: ok, whatever, its best we end this discussion here, unless you want to continue at #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:04] <|brad|> oh man
[07:04] <xylus> aside from as you said many games like pong or tetris
[07:04] <xylus> ;)
[07:04] <xylus> lol
[07:04] <xylus> oops
[07:04] <xylus> trolling again
[07:04] <xylus> i need to leave
[07:04] <xylus> bye
[07:04] <abattoir> hmmm
[07:05] <OOD> i consider doom 3 and UT2004 to be a little more recent then pong or tetris
[07:05] <OOD> but hey, that's just me
[07:05] <bobstro> blame the publishers for not putting out linux versions. i'd buy 'em in a heartbeat, and spend the money saved on my OS on more games.
[07:06] <|brad|> has anyone ever got swat to work in kubuntu
[07:06] <timi> do i need to sudo to "cd" something
[07:06] <|brad|> i did everything short of standing on my head yesterday
[07:06] <timi> because when i didnt sudo it said permission denied to compile, then when i did sudo it said cd is not a comand
[07:06] <osiris> timi, depends on the permissions ofthe dir
[07:06] <abattoir> timi: nope, 'cd directory' should do
[07:07] <abattoir> timi: you dont need sudo for './configure' and 'make'
[07:07] <abattoir> timi: only 'sudo make install'
[07:07] <osiris> its a permission issue
[07:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone
[07:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey abattoir
[07:08] <abattoir> hi MilhousePunkRock :)
[07:08] <|brad|> morning
[07:08] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: thanks, nice gift... :P
[07:09] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: tried installing those packages?
[07:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Hal is the newest version, and powersave most likely is there too, since it warned me about low battery state a little earlier
[07:10] <MilhousePunkRock> So I guess this time it's really something with the pathes
[07:10] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: what are you trying to compile?
[07:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Kpowersave 6.02
[07:10] <timi> it something ends in a .tar.gz can it not be a directory or fiel
[07:10] <cpk2|away> |brad|: i got swat to work (the samba thing i am guessing) but forgot how
[07:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Needed tons of packages yesterday
[07:10] <cpk2|away> |brad|: you trying to just do a simple shared dir?
[07:11] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: isnt there a deb for it in the repos?
[07:11] <abattoir> !info kpowersave
[07:11] <ubotu> kpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 3199 kB, installed size 4924 kB
[07:11] <abattoir> is there a great diff. b/w 0.6.0 and 0.6.2 ?
[07:11] <timi> how do i get permission to open a file i downloaded
[07:11] <|brad|> cpk2|away: yea the samba thing.... man what a pain in kubuntu
[07:12] <|brad|> i never did get it to work
[07:12] <cpk2|away> |brad|: one sec i have a link that should help you
[07:12] <|brad|> samba is up and working fine
[07:12] <|brad|> it was for a friends home network. he is new to linux and didnt impress him that i couldnt get it working. made me feel dumb too
[07:13] <cpk2|away> |brad|: than i why use swat? i got rid of swat after i set it up because it seemed pretty useless
[07:13] <timi> this thing keeps denying me permission
[07:13] <|brad|> i loved swat. i thought it was real handy
[07:13] <timi> do i ahve to close it first
[07:13] <timi> or something
[07:14] <|brad|> but i was always messing with samba at home changing crap when i was a slackware user
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, abattoir, I had 6.0... But since suspend/resume is not working, I thought it might make a difference...
[07:14] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmmm
[07:14] <cpk2|away> timi: tar.gz is a compressed file
[07:14] <abattoir> !info kpowersave edgy
[07:14] <ubotu> kpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3199 kB, installed size 4924 kB
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> hey timi... got your wlan on startup by now?
[07:14] <cpk2|away> you need to untar it timi
[07:15] <timi> nope milhouse
[07:15] <timi> ok how do un tar it
[07:15] <cpk2|away> !tar
[07:15] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[07:15] <cpk2|away> !untar
[07:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about untar - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:15] <MilhousePunkRock> tar <someoptions> /path/to/filename
[07:15] <cpk2|away> i think its -xjf?
[07:16] <cpk2|away> you can add a v for verbose
[07:16] <timi> milhouse what does that mean
[07:16] <cpk2|away> timi: type tar --help
[07:16] <MilhousePunkRock> I think that's how you untor something...
[07:16] <timi> tar --help
[07:16] <|brad|> zxvf
[07:16] <timi> well that didnt work, do i type it in console
[07:17] <MilhousePunkRock> the -xjf cpk2|away said, or what |brad| said are the options
[07:17] <cpk2|away> is it a gz?
[07:17] <timi> tar.gz yeah
[07:17] <|brad|> tar -zxvf for a tar.gz and jxvf for a bz2
[07:17] <cpk2|away> there ya go timi
[07:18] <timi> ok
[07:18] <cpk2|away> when you untar it it will create a directory
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Any idea for the pathes?
[07:18] <timi> so a type in the name of the file then i type tar -zxvf
[07:18] <cpk2|away> timi its tar -zxvf filename
[07:18] <timi> ok
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Damn, everyone is faster than me this morning...
[07:19] <cpk2|away> if you dont want it spitting a bunch of stuff back at you you can take out the v
[07:19] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmmm... cant find a deb for it at kde-apps?
[07:20] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'll look into the 'paths' thing... wait a sec
[07:21] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: could you paste the entire configure run?
[07:21] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: There is a deb on kde-apps... But now that I installed to many *dev packages, I'd rather compile it myself... Is more educational for me
[07:21] <MilhousePunkRock> you mean config.log?
[07:22] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'd expect the paths to be set by default, if it isnt... hmmm
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> to=so
[07:22] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: no, the entire ./configure output, you have given only a sni
[07:22] <abattoir> *snip
[07:23] <cpk2> MilhousePunkRock: you dont want to start compliling things yourself... you start losing things and have random folders all over the place
[07:23] <cpk2> apt-get makes things so easy and clean
[07:23] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'd strongly suggest looking at the deb... :)
[07:24] <MilhousePunkRock> http://pastebin.ca/99281
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> I've been adding various dev packages yesterday for more than an hour to get this working...
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> I should have searched for the .deb in the first place... I wonder why it was not submitted to the kpowersave homepage, they only have .rpm there... And the source...
[07:26] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: something to do w/ pkg-config and *it's* path
[07:26] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: rpm for?
[07:26] <MilhousePunkRock> I'll take the .deb... But how do I get rid of everything that compiling created so far?
[07:27] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: it might be possible to use alien to convert it to a deb
[07:27] <MilhousePunkRock> kpowersave
[07:27] <abattoir> no, i mean, which distro?
[07:27] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: if you didnt do make install, then removing the folder should do...
[07:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh, I would have to look that up... I guess there is no need to since there is a deb
[07:27] <abattoir> as for the dev packages, remove them through adept or 'sudo apt-get remove ... '
[07:28] <abattoir> !info alien
[07:28] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> The don't hurt my system, do they? So I'd rather keep them, in case I once _need_ to compile something...
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> They*
[07:28] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: of course :)
[07:28] <abattoir> i meant of course not
[07:29] <cavalierwisk> i'm a total kde n00b, can anyone tell me how i get the home and computer icons to show up on the desktop?
[07:29] <abattoir> unless you are scarce for diskspace, running w/ just a few gigs of it
[07:29] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I completely delete a directory on the shell?
[07:29] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: rm -rf nameofdir
[07:30] <MilhousePunkRock> cavalierwisk: Did you look in Systemsettings --> Appearance --> Desktop --> Icons?
[07:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Besides that, don't you have the system menu on the kicker?
[07:30] <bastiq> !chmod
[07:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about chmod - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:31] <abattoir> cavalierwisk: just drag and drop it from kicker / kmenu
[07:31] <bastiq> where can i read what access i get on the diffrent security levels?
[07:31] <cavalierwisk> ah, ok, that worked thanks :)
[07:31] <acad> i want to know how the heck do i remaster (customize) the kubuntu 6.06 edition cd cause squash keeps segfaulting on me
[07:31] <abattoir> bastiq: google, maybe :P
[07:31] <imbrandon> bastiq: " man chmod "
[07:32] <cpk2> !chown
[07:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:32] <bastiq> man don't tell me
[07:32] <cpk2> 0777 is read write (maybe execute) for everyone
[07:33] <bastiq> i know
[07:33] <bastiq> but i want them all. i'm trying to make a small custom guide that fit me better than all the help files everywhere
[07:33] <DaSkreech> I knew I should have tried to figure this out before
[07:34] <DaSkreech> How does the live CD install work?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> It copies an Image to the Hard Drive?
[07:34] <abattoir> DaSkreech: just like the normal text installer
[07:34] <abattoir> DaSkreech: it copies files and installs them i guess.. not familiar w/ the intricacies
[07:35] <DaSkreech> abattoir: ok. So the Live CD has both an image and the packages needed to install
[07:35] <timi> anyone know how to change a bootsplash
[07:35] <DaSkreech> I was just reading up http://www.apcstart.com/site/dwarne/2006/07/773/inside-vistas-new-image-based-install
[07:35] <abattoir> DaSkreech: you mean the image which is extracted to create the livecd session?
[07:35] <DaSkreech> On how Vista installs and it sounds remarkably like a Live CD install
[07:35] <abattoir> DaSkreech: oh, i read that thing yesterday
[07:35] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Well Yes I know about that
[07:36] <abattoir> DaSkreech: yeah, i was thinking that too, but i think it is a bit different
[07:36] <MilhousePunkRock> If I do "sudo dpkg-deb --install /Downloads/kpowersave_0.6.2-1_i386.deb" now, will it specify the appropriate target path itself, or just install where it is?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Yeah something of it smacks of different to me ad I'm trying to put my finger on what
[07:36] <abattoir> DaSkreech: i think Vista handles it like an OEM installation, just extract the image onto the harddisk
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Maybe cause it works ;-)
[07:37] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, hey
[07:37] <abattoir> wherease here you detect the h/w and stuff, and install appropriate packages
[07:37] <DaSkreech> abattoir: No I don't think so since it doesn't destroy what is there before
[07:37] <DaSkreech> noiesmo: Yo
[07:37] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:37] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Hey hey hey!
[07:37] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, I see that xgl/compiz has cgwd as window decorator not gnome-window-decorator
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:38] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Did you see my question above?
[07:38] <noiesmo> noiesmo, I updated my system yesterday just as quinstorm annouced she'd updated cgwd adjusted my how to also
[07:39] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: no, missed it, let me read it
[07:39] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: Talking to yourself? ;-)
[07:39] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: go to the dir where the deb is and do 'sudo dpkg -i name.deb'
[07:39] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, so nvidia how to has cgwd in stead of gnome-window-decorator
[07:39] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: There are 232 people in here how is he talking to himself?
[07:39] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: else if you want to specify the full path, 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb'
[07:40] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, just wondering that too :)
[07:40] <MilhousePunkRock> He said his own name...
[07:40] <noiesmo> so i did
[07:40] <noiesmo> DaSkreech,  updated my system yesterday just as quinstorm annouced she'd updated cgwd adjusted my how to also
[07:40] <DaSkreech> So he did
[07:40] <noiesmo> lol
[07:40] <abattoir> hehe
[07:40] <noiesmo> aaahhhh
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Thanks :)
[07:40] <MilhousePunkRock> that's what I meant, no offense anyway...
[07:40] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, no taken man your right
[07:41] <DaSkreech> !xgl
[07:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:41] <noiesmo> I'm just so excited to be here
[07:41] <MilhousePunkRock> I think it's a good sign that I am still in the mood for jokes...
[07:41] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[07:41] <DaSkreech> noiesmo: So I guess the ATI one would take a few days to update?
[07:42] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, heres a screen with the theme applied well the compiz one http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/mediagallery/media.php?aid=1&f=1&s=0
[07:42] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, which ati one the one my site or the one at compiz.net
[07:42] <OOD> !java
[07:42] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:43] <timi> what does it mean if there is no acceptable c compiler
[07:43] <noiesmo> timi, you need gcc more than likly
[07:43] <DaSkreech> timi: It means you have no compiler
[07:43] <timi> when you try to compile something
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Or at least none that it likes :)
[07:43] <DaSkreech> !b-e > timi
[07:44] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, re ati howto are you talking about hte one at compiz.net man or what
[07:44] <DaSkreech> noiesmo: Oh yours
[07:45] <josh__> k
[07:45] <josh__> i'm back
[07:45] <josh__> yet again
[07:46] <josh__> anyone need help>
[07:46] <josh__> actually i need help
[07:46] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, will sort it now just going to change and make note about cgwd at this stage k?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> noiesmo: Purty! Did you do the Cute close buttons your self?
[07:46] <josh__> my sound options are set to 8 channels
[07:46] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Now I get dependency errors...
[07:46] <josh__> i only have 2 speakers so now there is no bass
[07:46] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, yeah not!
[07:46] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, now its part or gcompizthemer-theme package
[07:46] <noiesmo> now/no
[07:47] <josh__> is there a file somewhere or update to make it so that i can change it to 2 speakers?
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Thats dead funny
[07:47] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, I'm using a mac osx theme at mo but thought I'd show the compiz theme in screeny
[07:47] <josh__> can anyone help?
[07:48] <josh__> it sounds really bad without bas
[07:48] <josh__> bass
[07:48] <DaSkreech> josh__: I really don't recall but they might have speaker settings in the System settings
[07:49] <noiesmo> maybe the cat bumped the cord josh__
[07:49] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir passed out again I think... ;-)
[07:49] <OOD> MilhousePunkRock: you're lucky, for some people it doesnt
[07:49] <josh__> no
[07:49] <josh__> its just set to 8ch
[07:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, OOD, I've seen many people with sound issues...
[07:50] <josh__> i'm guessing thats the problem
[07:50] <josh__> if not there is a bass problem
[07:50] <MilhousePunkRock> josh__: Go out and buy a 7.1 speaker set... :-P
[07:50] <josh__> so i guess it would be sound card issues
[07:50] <josh__> lmao that would be nice
[07:50] <acad> where would i get older versions of kubuntu?
[07:50] <OOD> josh__: you try to set it to less channels in KMix?
[07:50] <josh__> yes
[07:50] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Get a 50 inch Monitor :-P
[07:50] <josh__> thats where i discovered the problem
[07:51] <DaSkreech> acad: Same place you get the new ones
[07:51] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: That wouldn't be very handy for a laptop...
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Just don't Torrent them ;)
[07:51] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Just add water!!
[07:51] <OOD> lol
[07:51] <MilhousePunkRock> What's wrong with torrenting the iso's?
[07:51] <josh__> i was very confused when i had powdered water because i didn't know what to add
[07:51] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, hey this new cgwd means no more gnome dependencies hoooray
[07:52] <acad> DaSkreech i only 5.10 and 6.06, is 6.06 the only final version?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> josh__: rofl!
[07:52] <josh__> lol
[07:52] <josh__> had to add some comedy at 2 in the morning
[07:52] <DaSkreech> acad: Sorry what do you mean?
[07:52] <josh__> i'm trying to do a project
[07:52] <josh__> i haven't used windows in days
[07:52] <DaSkreech> With Sound I'm guessing
[07:52] <josh__> i mainly use it for gaming
[07:53] <josh__> but i'd like to listen to music in linux
[07:53] <josh__> WITH BASS!!!
[07:53] <acad> DaSkreech sorry, i ment to say i only see two versions from the official site, that is 5.10 and 6.06.. nothing else.
[07:53] <MilhousePunkRock> same here, josh__ If it wasn't for my gaming addiction I would get Linux on my desktop too
[07:53] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, ati how to updated with cgwd info
[07:53] <DaSkreech> acad: Ok what would you like? I think the first version was 4.10
[07:53] <DaSkreech> noiesmo: Schweet!
[07:53] <josh__> my first attempt at suicide was when i jumped off a building, then i was sucked into a portal that layed me in my bed a day earlier, then i woke up and felt like killing myself
[07:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Hoary, Breezy and Dapper are the full version IIRC
[07:54] <acad> DaSkreech i think i want 6.04 assuming it is a stable version
[07:54] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Forgot Warty
[07:54] <DaSkreech> acad: It is
[07:54] <noiesmo> josh__, ok install alsamixer and check the setting thru it it might help you it might not won't hurt
[07:55] <DaSkreech> acad: That's the new release you said you wanted old ones?
[07:55] <acad> DaSkreech, do you know where i can get 6.04 then?
[07:55] <acad> DaSkreech i don't want 6.06.  i want 6.04.
[07:55] <DaSkreech> acad: 6.04 = 6.06
[07:55] <MilhousePunkRock> What are the names based on anyway? I know some debian code names come from that one animated movie whose name I just can't recall...
[07:55] <DaSkreech> It's the same one. It got delayed two months
[07:55] <josh__> wow this is retarded
[07:56] <acad> DaSkreech i don't understand that. why would they give two version numbers to the same thing?
[07:56] <josh__> adept won't open
[07:56] <josh__> i type in the password and nothing happens
[07:56] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: sabdfl's morning breakfast :)
[07:56] <DaSkreech> acad: The numbers are the year and month it came out
[07:56] <DaSkreech> 6.04 was delayed by two months
[07:56] <DaSkreech> So it's 6.06
[07:57] <acad> DaSkreech ok- so they differ slightly?
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Next year we will return to your regularly scheduled month
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> So is the testing version (edgy etch?) called like that 'cause it's bleeding edge right now?
[07:57] <josh__> wow thats so stupid!
[07:57] <DaSkreech> acad: Well 6.04 is considered "near" stable
[07:57] <OOD> josh__: adpet might already be running
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> josh__: Fresh installation?
[07:58] <acad> DaSkreech that is what i thought, anyway to get it?
[07:58] <OOD> sudo killall adept
[07:58] <OOD> then try again
[07:58] <josh__> is there a command i can use to install alsamixer?
[07:58] <MilhousePunkRock> acad: What's wrong with 6.06 for you?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> acad: You would have to choose a day and grab a nightly. They didn't have a freeze as far as I know
[07:58] <draik> !repositories
[07:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:58] <josh__> yeah maybe its already running.
[07:58] <josh__> how would i kill the process
[07:58] <DaSkreech> acad: Though  you could get the last flight CD
[07:59] <josh__> thats usually what happens in windows
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> what OOD said, josh__
[07:59] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Yup
[07:59] <josh__> yeah
[07:59] <josh__> how do i find it
[07:59] <josh__> cuz there is nothing in the taskbar
[07:59] <OOD> josh__: do sudo killall in terminal
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> lol... you need to open a console
[07:59] <OOD> sudo killall adept*
[08:00] <acad> DaSkreech yes, the squash somethen or other segments and since the md5sum matchs i suspect it has to do with 6.06 as 6.04 works (according to someone else) when I remaster (i am modifying the cd)
[08:00] <MilhousePunkRock> There is not someone in here that can deal with a _german_ error message?
[08:00] <josh__> ya
[08:00] <josh__> apparently its already in use by something
[08:00] <josh__> i did have an update fail earlier
[08:00] <josh__> i was trying to install jave
[08:00] <DaSkreech> acad: Err ... Huh?
[08:00] <josh__> java
[08:01] <DaSkreech> acad: You are remastering an old CD?
[08:01] <cpk2> sun java?
[08:01] <acad> DaSkreech i'd rather remaster 6.06 but i can't because squash does a segmentation fault
[08:01] <acad> DaSkreech actually, i can probably remaster 6.06 with a 6.04 cd
[08:01] <josh__> ok
[08:01] <DaSkreech> When?
[08:02] <josh__> alsa mixer is installed
[08:02] <cpk2> josh__: that was a question were you trying to install sun java?
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> lol noiesmo... You mean "nein"...
[08:02] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, aahhh
[08:02] <acad> DaSkreech i'm not even sure that is the problem, but i'm basing it on elimination..  i check the md5sums, free disk space, free ram, etc
[08:02] <josh__> yeah i was trying to install java
[08:02] <josh__> but its 32 bit and i'm running amd64
[08:03] <cpk2> josh__: have you looked at the wiki at all?
[08:03] <MilhousePunkRock> I could still post it and try to translate it... It's about dependencies...
[08:03] <cpk2> !sun-java
[08:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about sun-java - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:03] <cpk2> !java
[08:03] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:03] <acad> DaSkreech i just realized something, i should reburn the ISO, i didn't check it and have probably scratched it..  wow- i feel stupid
[08:03] <bimberi_> draik: hello?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> acad: :)
[08:04] <acad> DaSkreech although i was mounting the ISO, the squash was running from cd
[08:04] <draik> hello bimberi
[08:04] <acad> DaSkeech could cause my problem, particulerly cause I didn't check this cd and have been careless with it
[08:04] <bimberi_> draik: i was just about to respond to you in #ubuntu-doc ;)
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[08:04] <acad> DaSkeech i bet it won't solve the problem..  thanks anyway
[08:04] <draik> sorry, I closed the wrong tab
[08:04] <draik> I'm going back
[08:05] <josh__> ok
[08:05] <josh__> how do u send files in kopete
[08:05] <timi> anyone know how to change their bootsplash
[08:06] <noiesmo> timi, yeh chceck out the menu.1st in /boot/grub/ there should be a ref for bootsplash just before kernel lists and there should be a older in /boot/grub/splashblah
[08:07] <noiesmo> timi, it should say splashimage
[08:08] <josh__> ok
[08:08] <josh__> jesus
[08:08] <josh__> i need to sleep
[08:08] <timi> not there
[08:08] <timi> is ther a prgm
[08:09] <timi> i tried to compile kbootsplash but i guess it doesnt work for kubuntu
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> http://pastebin.ca/99305
[08:10] <noiesmo> timi, ok sudo apt-get install grub-splashimages
[08:10] <timi> alright
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: ^^
[08:11] <timi> alright i got it
[08:11] <noiesmo> timi, I take it youv'e got the stock kubutu splash its only the grub one
[08:11] <timi> yeah, and i changed my splash screen and kdm so i wanted the matching bootsplash
[08:11] <timi> where do i open the grub splashimages
[08:12] <timi> do i just run it
[08:12] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, hey I can't read greman dude I was just muching around before sorry but it looks like there are conflicts
[08:12] <MilhousePunkRock> let me guess, noiesmo... No chance I can get those packages from adept?
[08:12] <timi> he noiesmo i cant find what i just installed
[08:12] <timi> where is it
[08:12] <noiesmo> timi, eh chceck out the menu.1st in /boot/grub/ there should be a ref for bootsplash just before kernel lists and there should be a older in /boot/grub/splashimages
[08:13] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, what it means is that another package or app is dependant on some of the things you already have
[08:13] <timi> sweet i c it
[08:14] <timi> but i dont know how i choose one/ set as default
[08:14] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, and it would break your system if apt installed whats need for the new app you want
[08:14] <noiesmo> timi, open /boot/grub/menu.1st there should be a line like
[08:15] <timi> ok i did
[08:15] <noiesmo> splashimage=(h0,2)/boot/grub/splashimages/blah.xpm.gz
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: Any chance compiling it myself will work? That was what I tried before I discovered the .deb package
[08:16] <Dodger_> so, i'm trying to get the printing server configured - when i do that via the control panel, it asks me for a username and password for the printing system
[08:16] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, it might compile but you may need some dev packages to do that
[08:16] <Dodger_> none of mine work, so is there a default i should use?
[08:17] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, what's the name of the app again
[08:17] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: I installed tons of dev packages for it yesterday...
[08:17] <cpk2> noiesmo: i just catted my menu.lst and didnt see a line that had splashimage=
[08:17] <timi> noeismo am i to edit a line that looks like that or just add it
[08:17] <timi> ^^^
[08:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Kpowersave 0.6.2
[08:18] <noiesmo> timi cpk2  my grub has it if yours does not you can add it
[08:18] <noiesmo> timi, cpk2 it goes after the line in grub that reads
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> timi: If you saw the stock kubuntu splash, there most likely is a line like that already
[08:18] <cpk2> noiesmo: i am assuming it goes after "end of default options"
[08:18] <noiesmo> timi, cpk2 ## ## End Default Options ## ##
[08:19] <timi> ok so we add it after end efeault options
[08:19] <noiesmo> timi, cpk2 add in splashimage=(h0,2)/boot/grub/splashimages/blah.xpm.gz replace h0,2 and the blah bit with the appropriate thing
[08:19] <cpk2> noiesmo: where should i insert it just at the bottom of it is ok? it looks like order might matter
[08:19] <noiesmo> timi, cpk2 ## ## End Default Options ## ## after this line just before your first title
[08:22] <Ademan_> what ports does samba use?
[08:23] <ironfroggy> is there anyway to have my laptop's wifi light controlled to light up when the wifi card is turned on?
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> this is a pretty geeky splash: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26888
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> ironfroggy: Shouldn't that work by default?
[08:23] <ironfroggy> i thought it would, but it doesnt.
[08:24] <ironfroggy> all those LEDs are programmable i suppose, so there is just no hardwired connection between it and the wifi card.
[08:25] <noiesmo> 135-139 445 Ademan
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Night guys
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> ironfroggy: So you mean the Laptop's lights, like for Caos-Lock? Sorry, I over-read that
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> CU DaSkreech
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Caps-Lock*
[08:25] <ironfroggy> yes, the light on my laptop. what did you think i meant?
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> The lights on your card (if it was an external one, Carbus for example)
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Isn't that one always one when the card is activated?
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> The internal one
[08:26] <ironfroggy> its not on the card directly. its above the laptop keyboard and the wifi chipset is internal.
[08:27] <ironfroggy> like i said, almost surely isnt even a connection between them in hardware, so i suppose the drivers are expected to control the LED.
[08:27] <ironfroggy> i havent seen the light outside of windows.
[08:28] <cpk2> noiesmo: gonna see if the splash screen works now
[08:28] <noiesmo> cpk2, ok
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> ironfroggy: On my girlfriend's Laptop (mine doesn't have internal wifi) the light is always on if the card is activated, never flashing when it's receiving etc
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: That's where I ended up when I tried compiling it, before abattoir said there might be a .deb http://pastebin.ca/99281
[08:30] <ironfroggy> MilhousePunkRock: yes thats how mine was until i started using kubuntu on it.
[08:30] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi, kpowersave works?
[08:30] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, ah ok abattoir no
[08:30] <abattoir> timi: didnt i already give you that link?
[08:30] <abattoir> or was it someone else? :S
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: The deb depends on very new packages...
[08:31] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: kde 3.5.3?
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Yes
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: I wanted to go back to compiling it myself now...
[08:31] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmmm... tried converting the rpm w/ alien
[08:32] <ironfroggy> ive been digging all over for this, but i cant find anything.. is there some way to configure certain remote mounted files to be available when the machine is offline?
[08:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Although I wonder if it will work if the deb needs very new packages...
[08:32] <noiesmo> why not add repo for kde 3.5.3 and update kde then install kpowersave
[08:32] <ironfroggy> i want to basically sync certain files into local caches, and for them to be available at the same location when the remote share is not available.
[08:32] <MilhousePunkRock> noiesmo: I updated to KDE 3.5.3 a while ago
[08:33] <timi> abbatoir i dont think so
[08:33] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: then you should be able to install
[08:33] <Ademan> noiesmo: tcp or udp?
[08:33] <noiesmo> repo for kde 3.5.3   deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu dapper main
[08:33] <ironfroggy> are there any solutions for this available, or am i looking for something crazy?
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: That's what the deb gave told me --> http://pastebin.ca/99305
[08:34] <noiesmo> Ademan, dam not sure of top I just opened firestarter and added rule for samba and thats the ports
[08:34] <Ademan> lol oh, thanks though
[08:34] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock,  repo for kde 3.5.3   deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu dapper main
[08:34] <noiesmo> Ademan, yes lol :)
[08:35] <cpk2> noiesmo: should i edit out quiet splash from kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[08:35] <noiesmo> Ademan, firestarters great little iptables app
[08:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmm, it doesn depend on newer packages...
[08:35] <noiesmo> cpk2, no but I think the splassh you want to change is not the one I thought you wanted to change
[08:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: did you try converting the rpm to deb?
[08:35] <MilhousePunkRock> not yet, abattoir
[08:35] <noiesmo> cpk2 want really https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:36] <Healot> !alien
[08:36] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: maybe 'alien' can be of help
[08:36] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:36] <abattoir> !info alien
[08:36] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> "but it's quite dangerous" hmmm...
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Isn't compiling it myself preferable over using an rpm package?
[08:39] <noiesmo> hmm kpowersave will install for me running dapper kde 3.5.3 with apt-get upgrade from yesterday
[08:39] <noiesmo> abattoir, don't think i'd be using rpm unless absolutly last resort no?
[08:40] <timi> how do i create an xpm.gz
[08:40] <abattoir> noiesmo: he has all the necessary packages for compiling installed, but pkg-config still complains
[08:40] <abattoir> noiesmo: eg. it wants hal installed, he's got hal installed, but it still complains
[08:40] <wolfmanz> abattoir got a new amd kernal loading up this should get some spraks flying lol
[08:41] <cpk2> MilhousePunkRock: probably but rpm will resolve depencies for you
[08:41] <noiesmo> abattoir, yes i know doesnt that indicat another packages holding on to some other packages that kpowersave needs and thats why he get s conflict though
[08:42] <abattoir> noiesmo: i suspect it has something to do w/ pkg-builder(or whatever)'s path
[08:42] <noiesmo> abattoir, if that makes sense
[08:42] <abattoir> noiesmo: but tbh, i've used alien successfully... havent had a single problem till now
[08:43] <wolfmanz> When you install a new kernal should you remove the old ones through adept or just leave them?
[08:43] <MilhousePunkRock> apt-get upgrade tells me, there are unresolved dependencies
[08:43] <noiesmo> MilhousePunkRock, try sudo apt-get --fix-missing
[08:43] <abattoir> wolfmanz: you can remove them if you want, but make sure grub is also update
[08:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Kpowersave was partially installed it seems
[08:43] <abattoir> *updated
[08:44] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?
[08:44] <noiesmo> or ^^^^^^^^^
[08:44] <wolfmanz> how do you do that?
[08:44] <noiesmo> wolfmanz, up to you
[08:44] <abattoir> wolfmanz: does grub boot you into your new kernel?
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> i did that, abattoir, now kpowersave was removed
[08:44] <noiesmo> wolfmanz, i remove my old ones once i'm happy with new one
[08:44] <abattoir> are there entries for the new kernel in grub?
[08:44] <wolfmanz> no id ea i havent restarted yet :D
[08:44] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i guess that is the partially installed kpowersave, not the old one
[08:45] <noiesmo> wolfmanz, reboot make sure alls good then you can use adapt to remove old kernels
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> i removed the old one yesterday already, before i started compiling the new one
[08:45] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ok, then that's good
[08:45] <wolfmanz> whats the command to see what kernal is in use?
[08:45] <noiesmo> uname -a
[08:45] <noiesmo> uname -r
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> will any of the -f options you mentioned here give me the packages that the new kpowersave is missing?
[08:46] <MilhousePunkRock> After I fail to install the deb again, of course...
[08:46] <wolfmanz> if i dont come back you know why lol keep a eye out for unbuntu_ lol
[08:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: that resolves dependencies and installs/removes conflicting packages
[08:46] <nubster> hello everyone.....can anyone gimme a hand with my problem....sont seem to have libqt3-mt in my system and i cant find it in synaptic pkg manager
[08:46] <noiesmo> nubster, open a konsole and type
[08:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: wait, let me test the rpm out for you
[08:46] <abattoir> gimme link if you can
[08:47] <noiesmo> nubster, sudo apt-cache search libqt3-mt
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> One second, abattoir
[08:47] <noiesmo> nubster, see whats returned then do sudo apt-get install libqt3-mtblah
[08:47] <nubster> what do u mean...there isnt a plain libqt3-mt?
[08:48] <nubster> cuz really i am trying to istall opera but the dependency isnt satisfied because appearnt dont have that lib
[08:48] <noiesmo> nubster, not sure of top but thats what I'd try if i cant find the package
[08:49] <noiesmo> nubster, also maybe its your repo there is a package called libqt3-mt
[08:49] <timi> is kbfx integrated or is a package i need to download
[08:49] <abattoir> !info libqt3-mt
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=124576&package_id=162439
[08:49] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In repository main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3078 kB, installed size 8728 kB
[08:49] <abattoir> nubster: ^^^^
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: But I think in the end it was only a path problem when compiling...
[08:49] <schmakk> why is it that apps started with kdesu uses a really small font?
[08:49] <nubster> i cant find just libqt3-mt i have libqt3-mt-mysql and others
[08:49] <nubster> does it make a diff?
[08:50] <abattoir> guys, sorry, i have to go now
[08:50] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i dont know, try exporting the PATH
[08:50] <abattoir> nubster: there is plain libqt3-mt see what ubotu posted above
[08:51] <abattoir> bye
[08:51] <noiesmo> abattoir, bye
[08:51] <timi> i just installed kbfx from adept
[08:51] <timi> but i cant find it anywhere
[08:52] <wolfmanz> well the lord didnt takeith away that time so thats good lol
[08:52] <noiesmo> nubster, yes it will make a dif maybe add another repo to your sources list maybe the server you have doesnt have it for some reason
[08:52] <nubster> well it's not showing up on mine
[08:52] <noiesmo> wolfmanz, hey your back ne kernel
[08:52] <nubster> i see everything but that
[08:52] <noiesmo> nubster, it is on mine can give you my aussie repo
[08:53] <nubster> ?
[08:53] <wolfmanz> noiesmo ya that install went without any issues
[08:53] <noiesmo> nubster, deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[08:54] <noiesmo> wolfmanz, nice
[08:54] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: How do I do that`
[08:54] <MilhousePunkRock> ?
[08:55] <farous> nubster: goto packages.ubuntu.com and locate which repos have the package you want
[08:55] <farous> nubster: it will be listed under kde
[08:55] <nubster> thanks i will try that
[08:57] <ironfroggy> is it ok to remove the kubuntu-desktop meta-package?
[08:57] <Hobbsee> ironfroggy: yes
[08:57] <ironfroggy> wont remove kde or anything, right?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> ironfroggy: no, but you'll need it again when you want to upgrade tothe next release
[08:58] <farous> ironfroggy: if you did not install kubuntu-desktop using aptitude it will not remove kde
[08:59] <ironfroggy> its only being removed because i removed one of the packages it installed (akregator). would aptitude have removed it in that case?
[09:00] <farous> ironfroggy: no
[09:00] <farous> ironfroggy: i mean it will not remove kde if that is your question.
[09:00] <ironfroggy> ok
[09:02] <ironfroggy> is there a better feed reader than that to replace it with?
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I specify a target path on untaring?
[09:04] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf ?
[09:04] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {file}
[09:05] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {file} -C /this/is/the/path ;)
[09:05] <aegeanlinux> soz, should read better next time ;)
[09:05] <Healot> minus the "-"
[09:06] <aegeanlinux> the - is optional Healot ;) I like it because it shows its and option
[09:06] <aegeanlinux> just personal {insert word meaning "thing"}
[09:08] <timi> how does kbfx work
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx aegeanlinux
[09:09] <aegeanlinux> timi: right click on kicker and say add panel
[09:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Will that keep the read/write permissions from the archive?
[09:09] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: It's all good ;)
[09:09] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: it might , don't quote me
[09:09] <timi> i dont see it there, i got it using adept
[09:10] <Dodger_> i've got a problem going through my proxy
[09:11] <Dodger_> seems like the settings i set in the control panel don't work - i have to manually export the http_proxy environment variable every new session
[09:11] <Dodger_> has anyone else ever seen this before?
[09:12] <noipmixam> yea somehow
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I check which version of a package I have?
[09:13] <aegeanlinux> something to do with dpkg
[09:13] <helpplz> how can I get sound to work in quake3?
[09:13] <aegeanlinux> type "man dpkg" to
[09:13] <aegeanlinux> see how to do it
[09:13] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: apt-cache show foo
[09:13] <aegeanlinux> (or with adapt)
[09:13] <aegeanlinux> Hobbsee: TY ;)
[09:14] <Hobbsee> aegeanlinux: :)
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> So it seems powersaved is too old to compile Kpowersave
[09:16] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: yeah....
[09:16] <Hobbsee> you'd need to compile both
[09:18] <MilhousePunkRock> What about using a .deb for powersave?
[09:18] <MilhousePunkRock> +d
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to determine what version of powersaved is in the edgy repos?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: unlikely to work.  what do you want out of the new kpowersave?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: sure, apt-cache show powersaved
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> hmmm, that shows me 0.12.15, i need .18 for the newest Kpowersave
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Neither mouse nor keyboard work when I resume from Suspend to RAM, I am desperately trying to fix that for a few days, with help from here and google...
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> I thought upgrading KPowersave might help, Hobbsee
[09:23] <crimsun> do we need a newer powersaved?
[09:24] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: ahh.  upgrading powersaved might help, or upgrading your kernel.
[09:24] <Hobbsee> crimsun: it's on the list of stuff to do for edgy, yeah
[09:24] <crimsun> Hobbsee: is it lock-stepped, or should we push it in today?
[09:24] <Hobbsee> crimsun: huh?
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, I shall try to upgrade powersaved than...
[09:25] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i have a version, and a version of kpowersave (source), but the two dont play nicely
[09:25] <crimsun> Hobbsee: meaning is there a hard sequence order...ok.
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Once that is done though, I can use the newest K8e anyway
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: powersaved from source or using a deb?
[09:26] <Hobbsee> crimsun: meaning you have to have a high enough level of powersaved to use kpowersave, yeah, if that's what you mean
[09:26] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: source
[09:26] <Desh> Would overclocking a laptop athlon 64 be a bad idea?
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Which can be found at sourceforge I assume?
[09:26] <crimsun> Hobbsee: hmm, ok. I see Debian only has 0.12.20-1 of src:powersave; I presume that's insufficient?
[09:27] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i really dont know - that's what i merged in - and debian has the latest kpowersave too.
[09:29] <MilhousePunkRock> crimsun: That's the newest...
[09:30] <crimsun> right.
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> We have .15
[09:30] <crimsun> I'm new to KDE, so I don't have the latest versions memorised yet
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> The newest K8e (0.6.2) requires .18
[09:30] <crimsun> MilhousePunkRock: presuming 0.12.18, correct?
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, crimsun
[09:31] <crimsun> all right, Hobbsee, ball's in your court
[09:31] <crimsun> if you need me to help test, let me know in the next 20 mins or so
[09:32] <Hobbsee> crimsun: huh?  oh dear.
[09:32] <Hobbsee> crimsun: it's in lure's court, really :P
[09:32] <crimsun> oh, ok.
[09:32] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: oh.  the old kpowersave doesnt work with the new powersaved, fyi
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> I am hoping I can use the new Kpo.. once I compiled the new pow...
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> By the way, since people always mention new kernels to solve my suspend/resume problem... Is there an advantage to use a 686 kernel instead of a 386?
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> On a Pentium 3 Mobile...
[09:35] <crimsun> for smp/ht/*core support, perhaps
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> ht as in hyperthreading? don't have that... *core as in core duo? same.. what's smp?
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> support multiple processors?
[09:37] <crimsun> yes
[09:37] <crimsun> to all.
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> One thing before I compile powersave: Someone suggested using "--prefix=/usr/local/" when running ./configure
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> What does that do?
[09:38] <crimsun> it should default to /usr/local
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> So it won't hurt to use that?
[09:40] <koriel> hi all, I'm having problems with my nvidia driver...I did a full upgrade using adept and now every time I use glx my system logs me out to the login screen, something like restarting X I think
[09:40] <crimsun> MilhousePunkRock: nope.
[09:40] <Healot> if you're thinking not to mix self-compiled packages with the stock packages, MilfhousePunkRock
[09:42] <koriel> in the syslog I got something about gconfd
[09:42] <koriel> so my question is how can I setup kubuntu to boot from console and not the gui
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> It's missing "dbus-glib-1!
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> !="
[09:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about =" - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[09:44] <Healot> lol MilfhousePunkRock
[09:44] <marcus__> Just wondering how I can add folders to public_html and have them be visible on the web.
[09:45] <noipmixam> anyway I can setup konqueror
[09:45] <cpk2> marcus__: apache defaults to /var/www/ you can add folders to that or link them to that and you can access them via your domain
[09:46] <helpplz> if I use alsa and quake I heared uses oss.. is that why I get no sound in quake?
[09:46] <noipmixam> or any web browser
[09:46] <MistaED> MilhousePunkRock, the 686 kernel, if it's anything like the k7 one, will probably enable power save and possibly that suspend/resume solution, also what video chip do you have and what driver?
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> S3 SuperSavage
[09:47] <Healot> install apache? add path directive, bind apache to your internet ip address, (re)start apache, bam
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> It's not a video problem... Trackpoint and keyboard are dead after resume, though I can restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:48] <MistaED> MilhousePunkRock, ok if it was an nvidia i would say to enable nvagp instead of agpgart
[09:48] <MistaED> ah
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Suspending and resuming worked fine on Windows though *ducksandcovers*
[09:49] <noipmixam> figure
[09:49] <MistaED> MilhousePunkRock, i'm sure it did with all of its undivided third party support attention ;) hmm, are the keyboard and mouse issues solved when you restart X?
[09:50] <noipmixam> seems like your last updates prenvent me from installing any win os
[09:50] <marcus__> cpk2: I enabled user directories, yet any directory I place in it is not recognized by apache. How would i go about linking the directories to my home directory?
[09:50] <MilhousePunkRock> yes, MistaED, but that starts a new session, of course
[09:51] <noipmixam> sysinfo
[09:51] <noipmixam> Sysinfo for 'MixAM-toplap': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: GenuineIntel(R)CPUT2500@2.00GHz at 997 MHz (1997 bogomips), , RAM: 236/1002MB, 85 proc's, 14.8min up
[09:52] <cotroler> Hello, I got a problem. I installed nvidia drivers and now when i boot linux I just get a black screen :(
[09:52] <cpk2> marcus_: linking the dirs to /var/www/ is just so you dont have to move that dir
[09:52] <wolfmanz> How do i tell what video drivers i'm using ?
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Where can I possibly get the dbus-glib I need to compile powersave?
[09:52] <cpk2> marcus_: have you tried putting files/dirs in /var/www/ ?
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> sysinfo
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> How did you do that, noipmixam?
[09:53] <cotroler> Hello, I got a problem. I installed nvidia drivers and now when i boot linux I just get a black screen :(
[09:53] <marcus__> cpk2: not yet, it might just be easier to put the directories there. I'll give it a try.
[09:53] <noipmixam> what
[09:53] <cpk2> sysinfo
[09:53] <noipmixam> "/sysinfo
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> That sysinfo... Did you paste it?
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Sysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 732 MHz (1466 bogomips), , RAM: 246/249MB, 80 proc's, 3.2h up
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> nice
[09:54] <cpk2> guess gaim doesnt support that =\
[09:54] <noipmixam> Qt: 3.3.6
[09:54] <noipmixam> KDE: 3.5.2
[09:54] <noipmixam> kde-config: 1.0
[09:54] <kraut> moin
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning, kraut
[09:55] <noipmixam> almost considered like flooding
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Where can I possibly get that dbus-glib thingy I need for powersave?
[09:56] <cotroler> Hello, I got a problem. I installed nvidia drivers and now when i boot linux I just get a black screen :( any help pls??
[09:56] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: debian or ubuntu?
[09:56] <Hobbsee> probably debian
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Kubuntu
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> How did you do that now, noipmixam
[09:57] <wolfmanz> How do i tell what video drivers i'm using ?
[09:57] <noipmixam> hmmm
[09:57] <noipmixam> "/qurl
[09:58] <noipmixam> "/weather
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[10:00] <noipmixam> just wondering how I can take back control of my laptop
[10:02] <kraut> moin moin MilhousePunkRock
[10:02] <marcus__> is it possible to play mkv files in linux?
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> kraut: This is the international (thus english) channel... German channel is #kubuntu-de
[10:03] <noipmixam> Random Fortune: One of the things that hamper Linux's climb to world domination is the shortage of bad Computer Role Playing Games, or CRaPGs. No operating system can be considered respectable without one. 	-- Brian O'Donnell, odonnllb@tcd.ie
[10:03] <noipmixam> bla bla bla
[10:04] <cpk2> ummm ok?
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Computers are not toys for everyone, noipmixam
[10:04] <noipmixam> well ... I wish
[10:05] <noipmixam> but this laptop is a toy for that dev team since they have control over it
[10:07] <noipmixam> remove that VESA stuff and I might use it well
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: I think now I am exploring regions that will trash my whole system...
[10:09] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: heh, well....no, you can always dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kpowersaveandpowersaved.deb 's
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> powersave was missing dbus-glib-1, dbus-glib-1 was missing dbus-1, dbus-1 has been replaced with dbus
[10:11] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: take all those packages from debian then, i expect
[10:11] <MilhousePunkRock> So if I now get a package for dbus-1, I'm sure it will have conflicts with dbus...
[10:13] <Healot> !info dbus
[10:13] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.60-6ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 316 kB, installed size 700 kB
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, Hobbsee, it won't install, says it collides with dbus
[10:14] <Hobbsee> !info dbus edgy
[10:14] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.62-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 323 kB, installed size 708 kB
[10:14] <Hobbsee> !info dbus-1 edgy
[10:14] <ubotu> Package dbus-1 does not exist in edgy
[10:14] <Hobbsee> hum, okay.  i never tried it with dapper
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !info dbus-glib
[10:15] <ubotu> Package dbus-glib does not exist in dapper
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !info dbus-glib edgy
[10:15] <ubotu> Package dbus-glib does not exist in edgy
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !info dbus-glib-1 edgy
[10:15] <ubotu> Package dbus-glib-1 does not exist in edgy
[10:15] <Hobbsee> hmm
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !search dbus
[10:15] <ubotu> Found nothing
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !search dbus edgy
[10:15] <ubotu> Found nothing
[10:15] <Hobbsee> !search kde
[10:15] <ubotu> Found: desktops, latest kde, code, appsy, tar, koffice, kde, burners, apt, usplash (and 27 more)
[10:15] <Hobbsee> ah
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Looks like when I am done I'll have a semi-Debian system... If it ever works...
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Am I right to assume that removing dbus and installing dbus-1 will get me in trouble?
[10:17] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: no idea.  but i would get a backup of /home before you play too much :P
[10:17] <cotroler> i got this error guys any help? EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found)
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Nothing really important in /home
[10:18] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: only msot of your settigns
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Ah, ok...
[10:20] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:20] <Hobbsee> make sur eyou grab the hidden files from there too
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, they are probably why I thought there was nothing important in there...
[10:21] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: whynot just add a new user and login using the new user account
[10:22] <Hobbsee> farous: not for testing out *powersave stuff
[10:22] <farous> Hobbsee: for doing adminstrative stuff i thought :)
[10:23] <Hobbsee> farous: well, yeah, but if you're making changes to the entire system in terms of packages - its' hardly recommended :P
[10:23] <francesco> ciao
[10:23] <farous> yah i understand now why he need the backup did not see the previous posts before :)
[10:24] <Hobbsee> farous: :)
[10:24] <ironfroggy> does anyone know if there are plans for future versions of OpenOffice to be hardware accelerated?
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> I just figured that my /home is twice the size of my thumbdrive
[10:27] <MilhousePunkRock> So how brutally can e.g. ark compress stuff? 50%  ? ;-)
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe it's a good moment now to see if my 250 GB external HDD will work in Kubuntu...
[10:29] <cpk2> MilhousePunkRock: i have am runnung kubuntu off a 400 gig HDD
[10:29] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: hehe!  yes, my /home doesnt fit on my usb stick either - but i do development stuff there, and have two chroots there, so...
[10:29] <cpk2> external
[10:30] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: how's stuff going? what are you upto now? :P
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Be glad you weren't there... I am about to do really risky business here...
[10:31] <abattoir> why? what are you going to do?
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> replacing dbus-1 with dbus
[10:31] <abattoir> and how do you know i dont take joy in others screwing up their systems :P ?
[10:31] <wolfmanz> he is a windows user he likes to screw with linux people lol
[10:32] <Hobbsee> abattoir: he's lookign at getting the new *powersave* stuff on edgy
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> FAT32 shouldn't a prob for Linux, right?
[10:32] <abattoir> Hobbsee: last i checked it has the same version as in dapper
[10:32] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: no
[10:32] <abattoir> oh powersave, though kpowersave
[10:32] <Hobbsee> abattoir: that's cos lure/myself havent merged it yet.
[10:33] <Hobbsee> abattoir: applies to both of them
[10:33] <abattoir> Hobbsee: oh, so he's your guinea pig today :P
[10:33] <Hobbsee> abattoir: nope...he's figuring that out himself.
[10:33] <Hobbsee> abattoir: my version's on revu, but it doesnt seem to wrok
[10:33] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: no, it shouldnt
[10:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: it would be a pity if after all this trouble you find out that resume still doesnt work :(
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Wow, true plug and play...
[10:34] <user-land> Hello, what do you use for FTP in Kubuntu ?
[10:34] <abattoir> user-land: kbear
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> So how do I backup my _entire_ /home now?
[10:34] <user-land> thanks, abattoir.
[10:34] <abattoir> user-land: :)
[10:34] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Shh, abattoir... Don't speak out my biggest fear...
[10:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: which one is that?
[10:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: dont very, i dont think replacing dbus would make that much of a difference... but that's only me :)
[10:36] <abattoir> Hobbsee: keep isnt in dapper right?
[10:36] <abattoir> !info keep
[10:36] <Hobbsee> abattoir: check apt-cache rdepends dbus
[10:36] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 202 kB, installed size 832 kB
[10:36] <Hobbsee> !info keep dapper
[10:36] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 202 kB, installed size 832 kB
[10:36] <Hobbsee> abattoir: looks to be
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Replacing dbus is only the beginning, which is needed for dbus-glib, which is needed for powersave, which is needed for KPowersave
[10:37] <noipmixam> anyway I know who did started it ... but when I'd be fed up ... just watch ur ass
[10:37] <abattoir> Hobbsee: mostly gnomestuff :P
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> It's there in my KMenu in System...
[10:37] <Hobbsee> abattoir: hehe
[10:37] <abattoir> apart from powersave and hal ofcourse :)
[10:38] <abattoir> kubuntu-desktop depends on it though
[10:38] <abattoir> wonder why...
[10:38] <helpplz> how can I use ALSA wrapper for oss apps? I dont even know what to download
[10:39] <Hobbsee> abattoir: dbus and hal?  yeah, of course it does.
[10:40] <abattoir> hmm, kubuntu-desktop->hal->dbus i guess
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> So should I try keep or go with the guide you showed me, Hobbsee?
[10:41] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: whcih giude?
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[10:42] <user-land> abattoir, kbear has some interface problems ... :-) anyway do you know where i can disable passive transfers ?
[10:43] <abattoir> user-land: i havent used it extensively... maybe the manual could help?
[10:43] <hardw1re> morning
[10:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello Peter
[10:44] <hardw1re> =)
[10:44] <hardw1re> SANE patching is a pane in the ass
[10:44] <abattoir> ok, guys have to sleep, my brain is not working properly atm, MilhousePunkRock, hope you get it solved by the time i wake up...
[10:44] <abattoir> hardw1re: still doesnt work? :(
[10:44] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: also did you try alien?
[10:44] <hardw1re> well the patching of SANE isnt working right
[10:44] <MilhousePunkRock> If you are going for a week long hibernation, abattoir... ;-)
[10:44] <Hobbsee> abattoir: alien is evil
[10:45] <abattoir> Hobbsee: hehe, it has never failed me
[10:45] <hardw1re> im using the hp3900 patch but its not patching right, and then the configure, make, make install isnt working right
[10:45] <abattoir> Hobbsee: unless you use a Suse rpm
[10:45] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i can test the rpm for you if you want
[10:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: give me the link to the page, if you can
[10:46] <hardw1re> pastebin
[10:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'll make the deb and test it
[10:46] <hardw1re> !pastebin
[10:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:46] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: One moment...
[10:46] <hardw1re> i'll run the patch, configure, make and make install and paste into the pb
[10:46] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=124576&package_id=162439
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Back to backing up my /home
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> If I add the folder to keep, will it save hidden files too?
[10:50] <MeTa[AwAy] __> hi all
[10:51] <aegeanlinux> Hi [META] 
[10:51] <[META] > i want to install liblircclient0 but it needs libc6 3.6.3-6 but only 3.6.3-0 installable
[10:51] <aegeanlinux> How's it going ?
[10:51] <aegeanlinux> dang/
[10:51] <aegeanlinux> * .
[10:51] <[META] > how can i workaround it?
[10:52] <[META] > i'm annoyed why i need infrared control libraries if i not need it ...
[10:52] <[META] > but i want install mplayers
[10:53] <aegeanlinux> build them yourself ?
[10:53] <[META] > how?
[10:53] <[META] > i'm not a linux guru
[10:53] <[META] > is there a howto?
[10:53] <[META] > or anything?
[10:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Looks like keep is backing up my /home to external hdd now
[10:53] <aegeanlinux> !compile
[10:54] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:54] <aegeanlinux> !make
[10:54] <[META] > no
[10:54] <[META] > i'm not thinked about this
[10:54] <[META] > i want it from repo
[10:54] <[META] > with the fireox plugins
[10:54] <aegeanlinux> kk
[10:55] <farous> [META] : looks like you need dist-upgrade do you have mixed repos
[10:55] <[META] > i have dapper
[10:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: If I screw the system, letting keep restore /home from the backup will get it back close to what it is now?
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> wb abattoir
[10:57] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: yeah, you'll need to install the packages you want again
[10:58] <yelek> anyone know how to get a theme manager for kde (for switching .kth files) help much appreciated!
[10:58] <farous> [META] : let me understand what you want again you want mplayer right
[10:58] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: thanks :)
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> I did not install much, I removed more from the default kubuntu
[10:58] <yelek> by any chance....
[10:59] <abattoir> brb
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> keep really needs a progress bar...
[11:00] <vontux> so, vlc player.... who has installed it on their ubuntu machines?
[11:01] <hardw1re> i got VLC media player
[11:01] <hardw1re> and Mplayer
[11:01] <vontux> hardw1re: via apt-get?
[11:01] <hardw1re> yeah
[11:01] <hardw1re> i think it was grabbed as a dependency
[11:01] <hardw1re> when i was trying to install my logitech webcam
[11:01] <vontux> what repository did you get it from in your sources.list file?
[11:02] <hardw1re> no idea
[11:02] <vontux> how long ago did you install it?
[11:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !kpowersave edgy
[11:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about kpowersave edgy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:02] <hardw1re> its in the universe repos
[11:02] <hardw1re> well i only install kubunutu on friday
[11:03] <vontux> hmmm...I think I have the same repositories list...but I can't seem to get it to work
[11:03] <farous> vontux: packages.ubuntu.com search for it there
[11:03] <Hobbsee> !info kpowersave edgy
[11:03] <ubotu> kpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3199 kB, installed size 4924 kB
[11:03] <MilhousePunkRock> !info kpowersave edgy
[11:03] <MilhousePunkRock> lol Hobbsee
[11:03] <farous> vontux: if you have main universe and multiverse repos enabled you will def have vlc
[11:03] <vontux> farous: ok, thx, I'll try that, if a repository server has gone down, how do I tell
[11:03] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: :P  it's the same as dapper, afaik, as i havent upgraded it yet
[11:04] <farous> why is it that the boot do not report which repos hold the package when using the find command
[11:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, seems so...
[11:04] <farous> vontux: have no idea
[11:04] <farous> vontux: only way i can do it through pinging
[11:06] <Healot> (P)acket (In)ternet (G)ropher 'ing?
[11:06] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: you have 2GB of hidden files? do you ever clean up your browser cache
[11:06] <MilhousePunkRock> farous: Not hidden files, the complete /home is that big...
[11:06] <farous> Healot: my way of making a verb out of it :)
[11:06] <farous> ah ok :)
[11:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Includes some downloads I wouldn't really need to back up though...
[11:07] <MilhousePunkRock> The Kubuntu6.06.iso for example...
[11:07] <yelek> anyone know how to get a theme manager for kde (for switching .kth files) help much appreciated!
[11:08] <MilhousePunkRock> yelek: I think you can do that in the settings --> appearance
[11:09] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: i have 3 GB documents folder which have only text files and some figs
[11:09] <farous> so i understand but for hidden files was just strange
[11:09] <hardw1re> wb abattoir
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> are you a professional writer, farous?
[11:09] <abattoir> hardw1re: hehe thanks :)
[11:09] <farous> kind of a univ prof lol
[11:09] <abattoir> konversation is screwing KDE.... :(
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> nice...
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> ^^ farous, not abattoir
[11:10] <farous> :)
[11:10] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe, i got it dont worry :)
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> what field, farous?
[11:10] <farous> mech eng
[11:11] <hardw1re> ok, im suppose to patch something with this hp3900.diff file... but the readme doesnt say wat to patch...
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Ugh...
[11:11] <yelek> no MilhousePunkRock, there is no theme selector, as far as I can tell...
[11:11] <vontux> vlc player, yep just had to uncomment the universe lines in my repository file
[11:11] <hardw1re> 4- Copy the patch into sane-backends-1.0.17 directory:
[11:11] <hardw1re> 5- Apply the patch:
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> I think the term "theme" is not really apropriate for KDE anyway, yelek... Since there are win decos, buttons, etc
[11:11] <hardw1re> i run the command and i get this : File to patch:
[11:12] <yelek> well the file is .kth, ktheme
[11:12] <farous> hardw1re: that is the source file you want to patch
[11:12] <hardw1re> in backend/ ?
[11:12] <MilhousePunkRock> what happens if you double click on it, yelek?
[11:13] <yelek> it doesnt open
[11:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Or does right-clicking give you the option "apply theme" maybe?
[11:13] <yelek> for instance in another distro I had a theme selector a part of the KDE control center
[11:13] <MilhousePunkRock> any progress on alien, abattoir?
[11:13] <farous> yelek: did you open kcontrol
[11:14] <yelek> yeh I dont see anything for switching themes though
[11:14] <farous> yelek: it is in the theme manager if i remember correctly
[11:15] <hardw1re> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18848
[11:16] <hardw1re> ah the gits, i know whats going wrong
[11:16] <yelek> ah i see now, its crashing for some reason
[11:16] <hardw1re> who ever wrote the patch was thinking that sane is at version 1.0.18 when it is infact at version 1.0.17
[11:16] <yelek> it says it cannot connect to X
[11:17] <farous> hardw1re: might be you are using the wrong patch
[11:17] <hardw1re> nah
[11:17] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: konversation crashed the last time i downloaded it, am downloading again
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there any way to see the progress of a keep action?
[11:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: keep action?
[11:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: oh, you mean the backup app...
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> yes, abattoir
[11:18] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: my brain has stopped working completely :(
[11:19] <hardw1re> ok, ive worked it out i think, its just me being a complete and utter tit and not getting the right sane pack lol
[11:19] <MilhousePunkRock> weren't you planning to go to bed earlier anyway, abattoir?
[11:19] <cotroler> EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?
[11:19] <hardw1re> he knew i was about ;p
[11:19] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: well, i'll get the deb done for you first :)
[11:19] <MilhousePunkRock> That's very nice of you indeed!
[11:19] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: if you are going to do regular backups i would recommend you have a look at rsync
[11:20] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ok, the deb's come out fine... now to see if it works :)
[11:20] <cotroler> Any help?????? EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?
[11:20] <MilhousePunkRock> farous: Well, I am still in the progress of setting everything up properly, once that is done, I will add "regular maintenance stuff" like that...
[11:21] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: installs fine... now to see if it runs ;)
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> The external hdd I use to back up my home now is usually connected to my desktop though, farous
[11:21] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: what is it supposed to do? go to the systemtray?
[11:21] <farous> ok take care all got to concentrate on wht is on my hand
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah
[11:22] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: you can do that if you have net connection
[11:22] <MilhousePunkRock> You too, farous, CU
[11:23] <MilhousePunkRock> is it there? should be an icon similar to klaptop (or was it kbattery), abattoir
[11:23] <RawSewage> is there a way to connect to a server a la putty using the Konsole
[11:23] <Hawkwind> RawSewage: ssh -l <user> <host>
[11:24] <hardw1re> how do i uninstall sane if i've installed it manually?
[11:24] <cotroler> Any help?????? EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?
[11:24] <RawSewage> Hawkwind, cool thx
[11:24] <Hawkwind> hardw1re: make uninstall if you compiled it, or delete all the directories/files it created
[11:24] <MilhousePunkRock> hardw1re: sudo apt-get remove sane ??
[11:24] <kosh> Hawkwind: you can also do ssh user@server
[11:24] <RawSewage> ok
[11:24] <Hawkwind> kosh: Yep.  Linux is all about choice :P
[11:25] <kosh> Hawkwind: just wanted to say that one incase you don't know
[11:25] <hardw1re> Package sane is not installed, so not removed
[11:25] <kosh> Hawkwind: the reason I like user@server  is that is standard for a lot of protocols
[11:25] <hardw1re> i installed sane manually and not through apt
[11:25] <Hawkwind> hardw1re: make uninstall if you compiled it, or delete all the directories/files it created
[11:27] <vontux> I have a number of partitons on my machine that I am not able to access, when I attempt to open them, they won't mount
[11:27] <vontux> here is the error message I get:
[11:27] <vontux> error: device /dev/sda3 is not removable
[11:27] <vontux> error: could not execute pmount
[11:28] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: it works for me...
[11:29] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i needed to install powersaved though, i presume you have it
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Is it OK that the keep backup has about 700 files less than the original /home folder?
[11:29] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: did you forget the hidden files, by any chance?
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Unless I removed it in the meantime, I should have it, yeah
[11:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: I checked "show hidden" in the keep options, that should have done it, or not?
[11:30] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: should have
[11:30] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure - based on that i cant see what the missing files are
[11:32] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: so...? you want the deb?
[11:33] <hardw1re> ok, is this anything to worry about? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18849
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Looking into the backup directory in Konq shows me all those .folders, so I guess it's fine...
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Can we send files here?
[11:33] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yes, DCC
[11:34] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: ah right
[11:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: you do understand that the risks right? :P
[11:34] <chemaja> which browser to use when konqueror doesn't render properly? i'm guessing you all use firefox, right?
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Isn't it less risky than replacing files very deeply in the system?
[11:34] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe, so take your pick :)
[11:34] <Hobbsee> hardw1re: it fully bailed on you, or did it keep compiling?
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Opera is probably worth a try too, chemaja
[11:35] <hardw1re> it compiled all the way through
[11:35] <hardw1re> i just ran it a second time so then i didnt have all the crap in between
[11:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: identified w/ nickserv?
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> yes abattoir
[11:35] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'll PM you
[11:35] <Hawkwind> hardw1re: I'm curious as to why you are compiling sane ?
[11:36] <hardw1re> i have a HP 4070 usb scanner
[11:36] <hardw1re> so sane has to be patched with the hp3900 patch to get it to work
[11:37] <larson9999> is there a esddsp package for ubuntu?
[11:37] <hardw1re> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18850
[11:38] <larson9999> or esd?
[11:39] <Hawkwind> !info esd
[11:39] <ubotu> Package esd does not exist in dapper
[11:39] <Hawkwind> !info esd edgy
[11:39] <ubotu> Package esd does not exist in edgy
[11:40] <hardw1re> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18852
[11:41] <larson9999> Hawkwind: up early or late?
[11:41] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Woke up for a few.  About to go back to bed as it's only 4:41am here
[11:41] <larson9999> same here
[11:46] <Healot> !find esd
[11:46] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-esd, kdesdk-doc-html, kdesdk-scripts, libesd-alsa0, libesd0-dev (and 18 others)
[11:47] <aegeanlinux> !find google
[11:47] <ubotu> Found: libnet-google-perl, riece-google
[11:48] <larson9999> healot and hawkwind the reason i asked is i found a sight saying to run something via esddsp program-name.  but i don't have esddsp installed.  and i found another site saying ubuntu uses esd by default.
[11:49] <Healot> alsa bd
[11:51] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: it works :D
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Nice, abattoir!
[11:51] <abattoir> got d/c though.. i guess sleep doesnt sustain your internet connection :(
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> That's perfectly normal, abattoir
[11:53] <[META] > how can i fix dependency problems?
[11:54] <Healot> with packages, or with compilation?
[11:54] <chemaja> eek what happened to my desktop icons? i press Save in the KDE Menu Editor, clicked away (instead of watching Saving Configuration thingo) and now they're gone...
[11:54] <Healot> with the repos, "sudo apt-get -f install"
[11:54] <chemaja> right click doesn't give a menu. is there some process i have to run that my have died?
[11:54] <[META] > Healot: i have screwed up the libc6
[11:55] <[META] > i need liblircclient , but it needs 3.6.3-6>= libc6
[11:55] <[META] > i installed libc 3.6.3-15 from debian org
[11:56] <[META] > it needs tzdata (dpkg said) i get tzdata fromd ebian.org, but it have an error while i insatll it, it said the dependencyes wrong (because the libc6 installation is not successfull)
[11:56] <[META] > what dpkg cmd repairs the dependency problems?
[11:59] <cotroler> EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) ANY HELP PLS?????????
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Cross your fingers everyone, I am trying to suspend with the new KPowersave now!
[11:59] <[META] > :)
[12:00] <hardw1re> well im off for now
[12:00] <Healot> MilfhousePunkRock, good luck
[12:00] <MilhousePunkRock> That needs some tweaking I guess... Won't let me with USB devices connected...
[12:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Damn, why can't ark open 7z files?
[12:03] <aegeanlinux> It can
[12:03] <aegeanlinux> install p7zip
[12:05] <Healot> why not install everything under the ice?
[12:05] <MilhousePunkRock> i did that last week and removed it again when I found out that it's only CLI and not GUI
[12:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Will it link into ark automagically?
[12:06] <Healot> ark will use all the available compression programs under your ice
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, it worked...
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> But I forgot to backup that one thing I was looking for back when I killed windows on this laptop... :-(
[12:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Is someone AOL user by accident?
[12:14] <MilhousePunkRock> same sh*t different version number...
[12:15] <MilhousePunkRock> How likely will a new kernel let me use my trackpoint and keyboard after resume from suspend to ram?
[12:15] <BazziR> is it really a kernel problem?
[12:15] <BazziR> tried reloading the module?
[12:15] <MilhousePunkRock> I wish I knew, BazziR
[12:16] <MilhousePunkRock> That's probably something I would have to add to sleep.sh?
[12:16] <BazziR> eventually
[12:17] <BazziR> but don't ask me further at kernel things, I'm well known for bricking linux installs ;)
[12:19] <MilhousePunkRock> What would the command for reloading the modules for the input devices be?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: modprobe -r module && modprobe module?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> sudo in front, of course
[12:19] <buz> sheesh is it normal that editing a page on the ubuntu wiki takes 30s without any response?
[12:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Let me try to locate the sleep.sh first
[12:21] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: sorry, dozed off... I see that it didnt work... however remember you werent using the latest powersaved... i dont know if using that would change it...but...
[12:22] <abattoir> ugh, where did the rest of the message go ? :-\
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> !java
[12:22] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:23] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: and yes, i am to your east.. what time did it show? 8/9 PM ?
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> What about adding "modprobe -r module" to the sleep.sh and "modprobe module" to resume.sh
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> 4.30something PM
[12:24] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: aah, ok, not sure, worth giving it a try
[12:25] <abattoir> ok, see you later, bye
[12:25] <MilhousePunkRock> CU abattoir, thx for your help again!
[12:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: You said sudo in front, but aren't those shell-scripts above root anyway?
[12:25] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: huh?
[12:30] <cotroler> i opened xorg.conf and it ws empty in recovery mode.....any help pls??
[12:32] <MilhousePunkRock> I wish I would understand that shell scripting language...
[12:32] <larson9999> MilhousePunkRock: read a tutorial.  not hard at all
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> cotroler: do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:33] <mikalsen> how to list up all servers in Konversation? all noob on kubuntu
[12:34] <cotroler> tnx MilhousePunkRock
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> larson9999: You get how that works? Because maybe than you could hava a look at the acpi scripts and tell me where to put in the apropriate command to resume mouse and keyboard
[12:36] <larson9999> MilhousePunkRock: can't now.  off to work
[12:36] <Stardog> how to list up all servers in Konversation? all noob on kubuntu
[12:36] <omeow> Stardog, where do you expect that list to be?
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Stardog: F2
[12:37] <omeow> Yes, but I think he's looking for a list of 	all	 IRC servers. And that list exists nowhere, as far as I know.
[12:38] <omeow> You can only have predefined servers in the server list.
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Google might be very helpful, as in most cases
[12:38] <omeow> Konversation comes with only one by default I think.
[12:38] <omeow> That's one that connects to this server.
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Stardog: Are you sure you are looking for servers, or is it channels?
[12:39] <omeow> The channel list is Window => Channel list for $server (F5)
[12:39] <Stardog> omeow:  well, I'm only familiar to Xchat, and the serverlist (like quakenet etc) automaticly opens at startup. When i start up konversation, i have to add servers manually in,(and as a noob i cant do that)
[12:40] <omeow> Stardog, why can't you add a server?
[12:40] <Stardog> omeow: cause i dont know how to..... and the only server i've got on my list is freenode
[12:40] <omeow> Click New => Type a name (ie. Quakenet) add a server (ie. irc.quakenet.org) and add a channel (ie. #leethax0rs)
[12:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Is it possible that it does not _unload_ the modules when going to sleep, therefor reloading them on resume doesn't work?
[12:41] <omeow> You can read can't you?
[12:41] <omeow> :)
[12:41] <omeow> If you're still stuck, press F1
[12:42] <MilhousePunkRock> shouldn't that channel be called #1337|-|4X0|25 omeow? ;-)
[12:42] <omeow> No.
[12:44] <Ace2005_> It says the Nick Ace2005 is in use because i was logged in and i reset my router so how do i tell freenode that i am Ace2005, it won't let me change my nick
[12:44] <Ace2005_> Ace2005:  >:
[12:45] <Ace2005_> ping
[12:45] <ubuntu> pong
[12:45] <omeow> Did you figure it out, Stardog?
[12:45] <Stardog> omeow: yeah... thx
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Ace2005: If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[12:46] <Ace2005_> MilhousePunkRock: as you can see there are two Ace2005s in the list, both being me, but Ace2005 is me before i reset my router and its still here
[12:46] <Jh00> hmmm just testing kubuntu... nice package! I liked it more than ubuntu...
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, even better, isnt it, Ace2006
[12:47] <zblach> Ace2006: happy new year
[12:47] <Ace2006> zblach: thanks
[12:47] <zblach> ...
[12:47] <Ace2007> I want to get it for next year
[12:48] <omeow> Stardog, feel free to ask anything else and I'll try to answer best I can. ;)
[12:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Who is familiar with those ACPI scripts?
[12:52] <Stardog> omeow: kk :)
[12:52] <Ace> can someone tell me which characters are accepted in nicks, i keep getting [Nick]  Erroneous Nickname
[12:53] <Jh00> anyone from Brazil? I need help setting up my keyboard layout
[12:54] <Ace> Yay i'm gone
[12:57] <Jazon_lap> hi everyone
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> What are things written in green and starting with a $ in .sh scripts?
[12:57] <Jazon_lap> anyone be able to help me activate powermanagement on my laptop? it is non-existent in kde, but is there in gnome
[12:57] <Jazon_lap> :s
[12:58] <Ace2008> Hi how do i get konversation to register me when i connect to freenode?
[12:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Stand in line, Jazon_lap... I am having huge trouble with it too!
[12:58] <Jazon_lap> lol
[12:58] <Jazon_lap> i know it works with kde because it was working with kanotix......
[12:58] <MilhousePunkRock> APM or ACPI?
[12:58] <Jh00> Ace: press F8
[12:59] <Jack12> hi
[12:59] <Ace2008> Jh00: Do i just type the password there?
[12:59] <Jack12> i want to install a superkaramba theme but when i download it just opens the binary file with kate
[12:59] <Ace2008> Jh00: and what goes in the service box?
[12:59] <Jack12> saving it would result in a corrupt file
[01:00] <Jack12> how do i download that liquid qeather theme?
[01:00] <Jazon_lap> MilhousePunkRock: acpi (afaik)
[01:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Jack12: You need superkaramba first
[01:00] <Jh00> right click on the text "Service" and read whats there... I cant paste it
i have it latest version
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Jazon_lap: It's kinda buggy... I am already getting gray hair over it
[01:01] <Jazon_lap> its not working period here......
[01:01] <Jazon_lap> not an option at all...
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> do you have powersaved?
powersaved?
[01:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !powersaved
[01:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about powersaved - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !info powersaved
[01:02] <ubotu> powersaved: power management daemon. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.12.15-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 376 kB, installed size 1852 kB
[01:03] <MilhousePunkRock> do "sudo apt-get install powersaved"
[01:03] <Ace2005> Ace2008: On no not again
[01:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there?
[01:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can explain me why the mount table tells me that i have rw privileges but i can't modify the name of the folder in it?
[01:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> here an example: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/opaOFi50.html
[01:06] <Ace1> test
[01:07] <mute> eooe
[01:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[01:07] <mute> I have a problem with the keybord
[01:07] <mute> that it doesnt work
[01:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mute: use #test
[01:08] <mute> and it only works again when I delete the folder .kde in the home directory
[01:08] <taavi> hi
[01:08] <taavi> i have a problem
[01:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mute: check the shortcuts
[01:09] <aegeanlinux> So do I, but I keep it secret ;)
[01:09] <Jazon_lap> Device power management has been disabled by administrator.
[01:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> maybe you gave some kde shortcuts missetted
[01:09] <Jazon_lap> how do i ENable it??????
[01:09] <taavi> i cant watch avi files...
[01:10] <aegeanlinux> what type of AVI files? Uncompressed ones, DivX ones, XviD ones?
[01:10] <taavi> any
[01:11] <mariux> get mplayer and w32codecs for a special resp.
[01:11] <taavi> done
[01:11] <Healot> !mp3
[01:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:11] <taavi> only avidemux shows them
[01:11] <mariux> mplayer doesnt?
[01:11] <taavi> no
[01:11] <taavi> only sound
[01:12] <taavi> video is black screen
[01:12] <mute> you need the decoder for that video
[01:12] <taavi> okei...
[01:12] <taavi> how do i get xvid decoder
[01:13] <mariux> i thought it was included in w32codecs
[01:13] <mute> with the command file will said the codec you have
[01:13] <mute> or with tcprobe - i
[01:13] <mute> if you have transcode tools
[01:13] <taavi> i try...
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> What was the command to display Kernel Number, KDE Version etc. again?
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Sysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 732 MHz (1466 bogomips), , RAM: 247/249MB, 81 proc's, 6.23h up
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Can I run a 2.6.17 patch against the 2.6.15 kernel?
[01:16] <Healot> yes, with incremental patch
[01:18] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: it will probably not apply cleanly.
[01:18] <MilhousePunkRock> I am looking at suspend2 right now.. Their lates release is: 2.2.7 for 2.6.17
[01:18] <MilhousePunkRock> So I better take the latest for 2.6.15?
[01:18] <uniq> yes.
[01:19] <MilhousePunkRock> And I will probably have to do it again everytime the Kernel gets upgraded?
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> uniq: You know that you just volunteered to help me apply the patch, do you?
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Or is it just the regular configure make make install routine?
[01:23] <berkes> hello, I just tried the kde/kcontrol samba administration tool, but that seems to have a bug in kubuntu.
[01:23] <berkes> anyone else with the problem taht he/she cannot add users?
[01:24] <uniq> milhousepunkrock: i bet there are some guide on the page where you downloaded the patch. I do not have time to help you right now, sorry.
[01:27] <MetaMorfoziS> !java
[01:27] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Do I need to be scared to apply a kernel patch?
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> If so, I'd rather not...
[01:29] <Tm_T> ?
[01:29] <Healot> ye afraid, be very afraid, MilfhousePunkRock
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> If it goes wrong, I can still use the recovery option from GRUB, right?
[01:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Thanks for discouraging me, Healot
[01:30] <Healot> you asked for it :-
[01:31] <MilhousePunkRock> So did you forget the /sarcasm tag? Or is it really something a noob better keeps his hands off?
[01:32] <cotroler> ppl i got this problem any 1 had the same? http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8010/snapshot1io3.png
[01:32] <aegeanlinux> cotroler: Is that your screen, or an image error ?
[01:32] <cotroler> my screen
[01:32] <aegeanlinux> cotroler: that's interesting ;)
[01:32] <cotroler> it gets like thaat
[01:32] <aegeanlinux> No, I don't really get that.
[01:33] <gatekeeper> cotroler: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> The HowTo for Suspend2 says I need to compile my kernel prior to patching... Is that necessary?
[01:35] <cotroler> tnx gatekeeper
[01:35] <cotroler> but i just installed linux now
[01:36] <gatekeeper> cotroler: hmmm that should not happen, only time I had that problem was with elivecd
[01:37] <cotroler> i reinstalled linux (on a different cd)
[01:37] <gatekeeper> cotroler: this may be usefull (or may be not) sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall
[01:37] <cotroler> tnx
[01:38] <gatekeeper> cotroler: did you test the cd?
[01:39] <gatekeeper> cotroler: latest dapper cd has an option to test that the cd is ok
[01:39] <cotroler> i have 5.10 version
[01:42] <Jazon_lap> Sysinfo for 'arkygeek-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor         1.40GHz at 1396 MHz (2797 bogomips), HD: 15/36GB, RAM: 1236/1256MB, 118 proc's, 4.6d up
[01:42] <gatekeeper> cotroler: that is breezy, latest is dapper 6.06
[01:42] <cotroler> yes but i need to solve this image problem first i think
[01:43] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux, gatekeeper, Hobbsee and everyone else: The Suspend2 HowTo says I need to compile the kernel prior to patching, is that really necessary?
[01:43] <gatekeeper> cotroler: probable true :-)
[01:43] <cotroler> :/
[01:44] <cotroler> :'(
[01:45] <gatekeeper> cotroler: you could download the dapper cd which is also a livecd, if it fires up ok, and X is alright then it should install ok
[01:45] <supernix>  Hi does anyone know much about modems ?
[01:45] <gatekeeper> cotroler: might be a better plan
[01:45] <mariux__> peope still use those? :)
[01:45] <cotroler> can i do anything else apart that?
[01:46] <gatekeeper> MilhousePunkRock: never done it, but if that is what the advice is, I would follow it
[01:47] <gatekeeper> cotroler: apart from trying to reconfigure X using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg nothing comes to mind
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Looks like I got myself a task for tomorrow...
[01:48] <gatekeeper> cotroler: have you got broadband?
[01:50] <gatekeeper> MilhousePunkRock: why are you trying to recompile the kernel?
[01:51] <MilhousePunkRock> I am having trouble with Suspending/Resuming... Google brought me to "Suspend2"
[01:51] <_cotroler> bk sry got disconnected
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> It seems to be a kernel patch, to apply it I need to recompile... As far as I understand it, which is not much anyway...
[01:53] <r4z\Jan> i've a problem with my irda device "unable to allocate dma=3" i found in /proc/dma that 3 is already used by parport0 how can i change dma's ?
[01:56] <user-land> Hello again. I tried to add a few old harddisks to my computer now, but grub threw errors 15 and 17 consistently.
[01:57] <user-land> so i removed the other harddisks, but now my dual monitor setup does not work anymore, instead i am stuck with 1024x800 instead of 1200 pixel ...
[01:58] <user-land> how can i check if i am still using the nvidia driver and how can i reenable dual head ?
[02:00] <MilhousePunkRock> I might be lucky and someone else created a kubuntu dapper kernel with suspend2 in it already...
[02:06] <cotroler> bk...sry got disconneced
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Are the kernels the same for ubuntu and kubuntu?
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> suspend2 kubuntu
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> opps
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> oops*
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> http://www.ucc.asn.au/~dagobah/ubuntu-suspend2/dapper/
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Seems like there are various kernels with Suspend2 in them there...
[02:17] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Yes, its necessary to compile kernel for Suspend2
[02:17] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Soz about the lateness, watching the bill ;)
[02:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx, aegeanlinux... Seems I found a site that has ubuntu-kernels with suspend to in them...
[02:18] <MilhousePunkRock> http://www.ucc.asn.au/~dagobah/ubuntu-suspend2/dapper/
[02:18] <aegeanlinux> KK.
[02:18] <aegeanlinux> Only looking through the lines that were red sozzy ; )
[02:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it safe to try one of them (the apropriate one, of course)
[02:19] <aegeanlinux> I can't say that for sure
[02:19] <aegeanlinux> do you trust the source 100%
[02:19] <aegeanlinux> especially for a kernel
[02:20] <MilhousePunkRock> How does this whole kernel thing work anyway, since I have never recompiled one so far, it won't touch KDE etc, will it?
[02:20] <Healot> no, it shall not
[02:20] <aegeanlinux> No, it will not. The kernel is the bit of Linux that does memory, and all the processes and the multi tasking
[02:20] <aegeanlinux> basicly, with out the Kernel, there would be no bash running, or KDE ;)
[02:21] <aegeanlinux> The name "Linux" basically means "The Kernel" (www.kernel.org_
[02:21] <aegeanlinux> * www.kernel.org
[02:21] <aegeanlinux> (not litrally though ;) )
[02:21] <Healot> gro.lenrek.www
[02:23] <user-land> !nvidia
[02:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:24] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, this page is a little clearer I guess: http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/dapper-kernels/
[02:24] <MilhousePunkRock> I believe this guy did all the work I was going to do myself and compiled a vanilla dapper kernel and patched suspend2 in it...
[02:24] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: What processor do you have?
[02:24] <aegeanlinux> Intel P4 ? Celeron ? Celeron D ?
[02:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Neither of those
[02:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Sysinfo for 'ThinkPad': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)IIICPU-M1133MHz at 1132 MHz (2266 bogomips), , RAM: 247/249MB, 77 proc's, 7.33h up
[02:25] <aegeanlinux> KK, that fits the specs too.
[02:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh dear, it looks like I really need to upgrade my RAM...
[02:26] <aegeanlinux> Here's the go, the site has a .au address, you need to be reg'd with the Aus. GovT to get one, so you can always track this dude down if it stuffs up your PC ;)
[02:26] <aegeanlinux> Add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[02:26] <aegeanlinux>     deb http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/ubuntu-suspend2 dapper/
[02:26] <aegeanlinux> But as always, it is at your own risj
[02:26] <aegeanlinux> *risj
[02:26] <aegeanlinux> *risk
[02:26] <MilhousePunkRock> will sudo apt-get update prompt me which kernel I want?
[02:26] <gatekeeper> MilhousePunkRock: the kernel is modularised these days, so a full recompile should not be necessary, should be a case of finding the right module and doing any necessary configuring as the person in that url has
[02:27] <aegeanlinux> No, but it will install the right kernel
[02:27] <aegeanlinux> http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/dapper-kernels/ <-- read instructions
[02:27] <MilhousePunkRock> What if I rather want the 686 kernel though, my CPU is a 686-class CPU, isn't it?
[02:27] <aegeanlinux> Yes, It is a p3
[02:28] <aegeanlinux> http://www.aegeanlinux.be/index.php?n=Main.WhatIsAegeanLinux <-- list of 686 Processors
[02:28] <MilhousePunkRock> gatekeeper: I am aware of that, but Suspend2 only comes as a kernel patch
[02:28] <aegeanlinux> (thats not an advertisment ;) )
[02:29] <MilhousePunkRock> .be aegeanlinux? We're neighbours, kind of...
[02:29] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Don't rip it.
[02:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Do I get this right, aegeanlinux? You created your own distro?
[02:31] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Lets talk about that in #aegeanlinux . This convo has been held to many times in this room :P
[02:33] <garar> hi
[02:33] <user-land> does easykubuntu still exist ?
[02:34] <emonkeylap> user-land, look for Automatik
[02:35] <aegeanlinux> G;day garar
[02:36] <garar> hmm how can I change color of task bar items highlight? When I hover mouse over program in taskbar it looks awfull gray, where can I change it?
[02:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Back to that "custom" kernel... Can it break the hardware?
[02:55] <r4z\Jan> i've irda0 as interface and it works, but i want to use it as a serial device: /dev/ttyS1 how to do this?
[03:08] <aegeanlinux> I am going to bed soon y'all! Have a good sleep / Good day
[03:08] <pickledbushman> http://fun.newz.co.za/woody.html
[03:09] <Botkiller> anyone know how I get ./ to work?
[03:09] <aegeanlinux> ./ ?
[03:09] <fannagoganna> did you make sure that the file you're trying to run has executable permission?
[03:10] <Botkiller> yeah, as in ./steam for example, I get the error that there is no such file or dir
[03:10] <Botkiller> yep
[03:10] <Botkiller> it is in the same dir, it has chmod +x on it, but still :/
[03:10] <fannagoganna> what's the output of ls -l in the directory steam is located?
[03:10] <Botkiller> total 9276
[03:10] <Botkiller> drwxr-xr-x 2 mike mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:20 hlds
[03:10] <Botkiller> -rwxr-xr-x 1 mike mike 7506846 2004-09-22 07:54 steam
[03:10] <Botkiller> -rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike 1962970 2004-09-22 07:55 steam.tar.gz
[03:10] <Botkiller> drwxr-xr-x 2 mike mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:40 ventrilo
[03:11] <fannagoganna> try exec steam
[03:11] <fannagoganna> that is, "exec steam"
[03:11] <Botkiller> mike@dedi107:~$ exec steam
[03:11] <Botkiller> -bash: exec: steam: not found
[03:11] <Botkiller> with the "?
[03:12] <fannagoganna> hmm, this is very very very strange
[03:12] <fannagoganna> do you have any other shells beside bash that you can run?
[03:12] <fannagoganna> say tcsh?
[03:12] <Botkiller> dunno, only have this server for about 1.5 hours or so :P
[03:12] <Botkiller> how do I run other shell?
[03:12] <fannagoganna> there might be a command called "chsh"
[03:13] <fannagoganna> so are you logged in remotely to a server that has this steam application?
[03:13] <Botkiller> mike@dedi107:~$ chsh
[03:13] <Botkiller> Password:
[03:13] <Botkiller> Changing the login shell for mike
[03:13] <Botkiller> Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
[03:13] <Botkiller>         Login Shell [/bin/bash] :
[03:13] <fannagoganna> try /bin/tcsh
[03:13] <Botkiller> k
[03:13] <fannagoganna> and then see if your other commands work
[03:14] <DeadS0ul> a c shell user =O
[03:14] <Botkiller> /bin/tcsh is an invalid shell.
[03:14] <DeadS0ul> what bout ksh?
[03:14] <fannagoganna> ok try that
[03:14] <Botkiller> k mom
[03:14] <fannagoganna> I haven't used chsh in a while so I don't know how to get a list of available shells
[03:14] <Botkiller> also invalid
[03:15] <DeadS0ul> oh dear =(
[03:15] <Botkiller> indeed :S
[03:15] <fannagoganna> so have you logged into a remote machine that has this steam executable?
[03:16] <Botkiller> yes
[03:16] <fannagoganna> I want to try something -- is it possible for you to send me the "steam" executable?
[03:16] <Botkiller> my own dedicated server that I won a week ago
[03:16] <fannagoganna> I want to test if there's a problem with your bash shell
[03:16] <Botkiller> don't have ftp on it yet
[03:16] <Botkiller> well I do know it works at my red hat box next to me
[03:16] <fannagoganna> you mean your IRC client doesn't support file sending and receiving?
[03:17] <Botkiller> let me look for it, mom
[03:17] <fannagoganna> who's mom?
[03:17] <Botkiller> moment
[03:17] <fannagoganna> who is "mom"?
[03:17] <fannagoganna> oh ok
[03:17] <Botkiller> sorry normal expression in dutch :P
[03:17] <fannagoganna> ah you're in the netherlands?
[03:17] <Botkiller> yup
[03:17] <fannagoganna> I went on vacation there a few weeks ago :)
[03:18] <Botkiller> nice, where? :)
[03:18] <fannagoganna> Amsterdam :-D
[03:18] <v3ctor> Germany
[03:19] <Botkiller> http://japje.nl/steam/steam.tar.gz
[03:19] <fannagoganna> I want you to try something, see if you can run sh
[03:19] <Botkiller> I got it from there
[03:19] <Botkiller> just sh?
[03:19] <fannagoganna> oh you got it to work?
[03:19] <Botkiller> no
[03:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Who would do vacation in Germany if not forced to at gun point?
[03:19] <Botkiller> that's the steam file
[03:20] <Botkiller> sh gives the same problem
[03:20] <fannagoganna> hmm, this is very very very weird
[03:20] <Botkiller> true
[03:20] <fannagoganna> unless I can log in, I'm fresh out of ideas
[03:20] <fannagoganna> I've never seen anything like this
[03:20] <Botkiller> nor did I
[03:20] <fannagoganna> b/c it works on my kubuntu machine
[03:21] <Botkiller> could it be a problem with the command ./ itself?
[03:21] <Botkiller> that it isn't recognized?
[03:21] <fannagoganna> I don't think so, but I don't know for sure
[03:21] <fannagoganna> the thing is, the "./" is integrated into bash
[03:21] <v3ctor> ls ./steam
[03:22] <fannagoganna> what's the output from that?
[03:22] <Botkiller> mike@dedi107:~$ ls ./steam
[03:22] <Botkiller> ./steam
[03:22] <v3ctor> not a  problem with ./
[03:22] <sam--> hi, i need some assistance with setting up a usb wireless device
[03:22] <v3ctor> what does the first line of steam say?
[03:23] <Botkiller> of the file itself? like in vi?
[03:23] <sam--> is there a tool like wlassistant for wpa ?
[03:23] <v3ctor> nvm
[03:23] <v3ctor> it's binary
[03:23] <Botkiller> yup
[03:24] <v3ctor> try installing a new shell and see if it is a bash problem
[03:27] <xylus> excuse me but im trying to burn an iso dvd with k3b on the kubuntu system and it says unable to change wright speed error
[03:27] <MukiEX> Anyone know of a good Cloning/Ghosting/Backup program?
[03:27] <xylus> any idea how to fix this problem? because i tryed changeing the write speed
[03:27] <v3ctor> or you could try dash...that should be installed
[03:27] <fannagoganna> rsync :)
[03:28] <xylus> and i stil get it
[03:28] <xylus> dash?
[03:28] <xylus> i dont see it listed under programs
[03:28] <v3ctor> xylus: not you
[03:28] <xylus> oh sorry
[03:28] <xylus> lol
[03:28] <MukiEX> Something perfect would be a prob that backs up everything but the /home folder (keeps the directory stucture for it tho), and turns the installation into an installER, complete with a partitioning prog.
[03:28] <MukiEX> *prog
[03:29] <xylus> can noone help me out?
[03:29] <v3ctor> MukiEX: there is a ghost for linux. I saw it on sourceforge once
[03:29] <MukiEX> v3ctor : Thanks, but I worry that program hasn't seen an update in years =(
[03:30] <v3ctor> maybe they got it right years ago ;)
[03:30] <v3ctor> or maybe not
[03:30] <Botkiller> dash isn't installed either
[03:31] <v3ctor> hmm..i have dash and i didn't install it. Thought it might be there
[03:31] <MukiEX> I wish it was in the repository ;)
[03:31] <fannagoganna> by dash, do you mean the Debian Almquist Shell?
[03:31] <xylus> linux is all about these repositorys heh? are those kinda like the program files of windows?
[03:31] <v3ctor> fannagoganna: yes
[03:31] <Botkiller> I guess
[03:32] <fannagoganna> hmm, when I run "apt-cache search dash," it seems to exist
[03:32] <v3ctor> sudo aptitude install dash
[03:32] <xylus> im burning a coppy of debian now from the kubuntu system am i makeing a good choice?
[03:32] <xylus> it seems to me kubuntu is hmmm glitchey
[03:33] <xylus> mostley because its a small system
[03:33] <Botkiller> installing dash...
[03:33] <MukiEX> anyone use kbfx?
[03:33] <xylus> mukiex isent kbfx soemthing to do with superkarumba?
[03:33] <v3ctor> you are making *a* choice. good vs.bad will be determined wen you decide if it is what you want/need
[03:33] <MukiEX> Nah, it doesn't require superkaramba, xylus. Not a fan of that prog, presonally ^_^
[03:33] <v3ctor> when*
[03:33] <xylus> well my problem is this v3ctor
[03:34] <MukiEX> It's just an aplet.
[03:34] <xylus> kubuntu is dead for installing source and its also glitchey and just not well built
[03:34] <xylus> so im trying a full distro such as debian
[03:34] <Botkiller> ok, I have dash loaded, and when I run ./steam I get -bash: ./steam: No such file or directory
[03:34] <Botkiller> :S
[03:34] <v3ctor> Botkiller: change to dash
[03:34] <Botkiller> i did chsh, password and than /bin/dash
[03:35] <xylus> muki why dont u like superkarumba?
[03:35] <v3ctor> not like that
[03:35] <v3ctor> just run dash
[03:35] <xylus> i am going to try and get that prog once i get deb up and running
[03:35] <xylus> i just like the litle applets on yr desktop that display system information
[03:35] <xylus> in transparent backround
[03:35] <xylus> i think its pimped i dont know much about super and havent installed it once yet but im looking forward to trying it
[03:36] <Botkiller> ./dash: ./steam: not found
[03:36] <v3ctor> dash && ./steam
[03:36] <Botkiller> I'm starting to wish I had fedora on it :/
[03:36] <Botkiller> k
[03:37] <fannagoganna> or sorry :(
[03:37] <Botkiller> mike@dedi107:~$ dash && ./steam
[03:37] <Botkiller> $
[03:37] <v3ctor> well  you are in dash now ;)
[03:37] <v3ctor> try ./steam
[03:37] <Botkiller> dash: ./steam: not found
[03:38] <Botkiller> and I'm in the right dir
[03:38] <v3ctor> you sure?
[03:38] <Botkiller> $ ls -g
[03:38] <Botkiller> total 9276
[03:38] <Botkiller> drwxr-xr-x 2 mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:20 hlds
[03:38] <Botkiller> -rwxr-xr-x 1 mike 7506846 2004-09-22 07:54 steam
[03:38] <Botkiller> -rw-r--r-- 1 mike 1962970 2004-09-22 07:55 steam.tar.gz
[03:38] <Botkiller> drwxr-xr-x 2 mike    4096 2006-07-25 08:40 ventrilo
[03:38] <Botkiller> yup
[03:38] <v3ctor> home dir?
[03:38] <fannagoganna> btw, how about other programs, do they work?
[03:38] <fannagoganna> like go to /usr/bin
[03:38] <fannagoganna> then run "./ls"
[03:39] <fannagoganna> see if that works
[03:39] <scott__> hey, can anyone help me with my ipod? it seems that all my tracks have gone 'missing' on them, in amarok they come up under the folder 'invisible' yet in rythmbox i can play them, gtkpod cant see themeither (all though md5 hashes all of them), how can i get them to all show up again in my ipod?3
[03:39] <Botkiller> $ cd /usr/bin
[03:39] <Botkiller> $ ./ls
[03:39] <Botkiller> dash: ./ls: not found
[03:39] <v3ctor> ls is ont a good test
[03:40] <Botkiller> what is?
[03:40] <Botkiller> I tried it on ventrilo, same problem
[03:40] <v3ctor> ./du
[03:40] <Botkiller> $ ./du
[03:40] <Botkiller> dash: dash:: not found
[03:40] <Botkiller> :S
[03:40] <Botkiller> and yes, have the file :P
[03:40] <v3ctor> something is broken
[03:41] <Botkiller> I'm starting to get confinced it's something with running execs :S
[03:41] <cristiano> hi all
[03:41] <v3ctor> Botkiller: no, it is something with running with ./
[03:41] <v3ctor> you succesfuly ran dash ;)
[03:42] <Botkiller> :P
[03:42] <v3ctor> is mike you username?
[03:42] <Botkiller> well, next step is finding a fix for this problem i guess ^^
[03:42] <Botkiller> yes
[03:42] <v3ctor> try running with full path
[03:42] <v3ctor>  /home/mike/steam
[03:42] <cristiano> i have a directory with some ,zip files which i wanna to be extracted, is it possible to let unzip extract all the .zip files at the same time instead then one by one? i have tried with "unzip [path] /*" but it says "zip file not matched"
[03:42] <Botkiller> dash: ./home/mike/steam: not found
[03:43] <v3ctor> or what ever the location is
[03:43] <v3ctor> no ./
[03:43] <Botkiller> just /home/mike/steam?
[03:43] <v3ctor> yes...if that is where it is located
[03:43] <fannagoganna> yeah, that's a good idea, might work
[03:43] <Botkiller> dash: /home/mike/steam: not found
[03:43] <Botkiller> no it doesn't :P
[03:43] <v3ctor> is that the location of steam?
[03:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone, again...
[03:43] <Botkiller> yup
[03:43] <cristiano> any clues for me?
[03:44] <fannagoganna> btw, Botkiller, are you running kubuntu on this machine, and if so do you have root access to it?
[03:44] <Botkiller> at least : the file steam is in /home/mike
[03:44] <Botkiller> I have root access to it
[03:44] <Botkiller> not sure what my provider installed on it, I know it is some kind of ubuntu 64bit
[03:45] <fannagoganna> run "apt-cache search steam"
[03:45] <Botkiller> k
[03:45] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I manually install a kernel? I added a repo to get a suspend enabled kernel, but the one I got seems to be without restricted modules, therefor my WiFi card won't work
[03:45] <fannagoganna> what's the output there?
[03:45] <hephooey> My kubuntu installation hang at "choose mirror", when I don't have an internet access
[03:45] <Agios> cristiano: try unzip path/*.zip  and if that doesn't work I'll tell you another way
[03:45] <hephooey> is that a known bug?
[03:45] <cristiano> Agios it didn't work, already tried
[03:45] <cristiano> it says "zip file not matched" Agios
[03:45] <Botkiller> fannagoganna : nothing
[03:46] <Botkiller> root@dedi107:~# apt-cache search steam
[03:46] <Botkiller> root@dedi107:~#
[03:46] <hephooey> Is there a way to skip this in ubiquity?
[03:47] <Agios> cristiano: type this then:  for a in `/bin/ls path/*.zip ; do unzip path/$a; done
[03:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Besides that, is KDE 3.5.3 in the repos now? I get lot of updates here...
[03:48] <fannagoganna> Botkiller are you running dapper?
[03:48] <fannagoganna> or breezy?
[03:48] <cristiano> Agios:  the second "path" which path is?
[03:48] <Botkiller> never heard of them
[03:48] <Agios> cristiano: type this then:  for a in `/bin/ls path/*.zip`'; do unzip path/$a; done
[03:48] <fannagoganna> what does your /etc/apt/sources.list file look like?
[03:48] <xylus> hey does anyone have a good applet for superkarumba?
[03:48] <Agios> path is the same path your zip files are in
[03:49] <fannagoganna> run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and what is the output?
[03:49] <cristiano> Agios: ok i'll try and let u know :)
[03:49] <Botkiller> oops :P
[03:49] <MilhousePunkRock> xylus: Superdoku, in case you like the sudoku puzzle...
[03:50] <Botkiller> sending fannagoganna
[03:50] <xylus> hehe thanks but what im looking for is a applet that displays system information in a styleish backround on the desktop
[03:50] <xylus> i belive someone told me to get a app for superkarumba
[03:51] <scott__> anyone know how i can recompile/rewrite my ipod itunes database? as some of my files have gone missing on my ipod but are visible to rythmbox (but not amarok or gtkpod)
[03:51] <Botkiller> fannagoganna : you see my dcc request?
[03:51] <fannagoganna> sorry no :(
[03:51] <fannagoganna> I'm using gaim, let me try xchat and see if you can send the file again to me
[03:52] <Botkiller> k
[03:52] <xylus> hey guys whats newer kubuntu or the latest stable version of debian
[03:52] <fannagoganna> hi Botkiller
[03:52] <fannagoganna> could you send the file over to me?
[03:52] <Botkiller> hi fannagoganna
[03:53] <Botkiller> sending
[03:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> where i can ask some information about udev-ipod configuration? #udev doesn't exists!!
[03:53] <Botkiller> you getting it?
[03:54] <fannagoganna> sorry, don't know why but no
[03:54] <fannagoganna> could you email to tanim.islam@gmail.com?
[03:55] <fannagoganna> if possible?
[03:55] <cristiano> Agios: it appeared ">" when i execute the command u gave
[03:55] <Botkiller> you got google messenger?
[03:55] <fannagoganna> yup that i have
[03:56] <fannagoganna> ok i see you there
[03:57] <cristiano> Agios: what is wrong?
[04:00] <Agios> paste exactly what you typed
[04:03] <cristiano> Agios maybe i found an error in what u wrote, there is a strange simbol near the " ' " in ur statement, just before " ; " could be this?
[04:04] <Agios> probably
[04:05] <cristiano> ok i try
[04:08] <cristiano> damn! Agios i think the prob is in the way i write down the path!!! because the path is something like "dsf earth nav/earth nav data" with spaces, it doesn't know how to interpret that spaces in the path
[04:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can explain me why when kmailservice is started.. tons of konqueror windows start popping up one after the other!?!
[04:09] <Agios> cristiano: yes. you need 'path with spaces'
[04:09] <cristiano> Agios the path i need is "/home/cristiano/xinst/europe/all/resources/default scenery/dsf 820 earth/earth nav data/+30+010" and as u can see there are a lot of spaces, and if i put this it gives me an error
[04:09] <cristiano> how to correct this?
[04:10] <dr_willis> single quotes around the whole path line. perhaps.
[04:10] <Azzco> is it okay if I ask a game install oriented question?
[04:10] <cristiano> dr_willis: what do u mean?
[04:11] <dr_willis> 'path/to/the big thing'
[04:11] <cristiano> dr_willis: i'm sorry but i'm not understing how to write it right :( can u give me an example with the path above pls?
[04:11] <Agios> cristiano: that's probably why unzip didn't work in the first place
[04:12] <dr_willis> '/home/cristiano/xinst/europe/all/resources/default scenery/dsf'
[04:12] <Agios> unzip '/home/cristiano/xinst/europe/all/resources/default scenery/dsf 820 earth/earth nav data/+30+010/*'
[04:12] <cristiano> ok guys i try this way and let u know
[04:12] <dr_willis> you got + chars in the path as well?
[04:13] <Tintin> What tool is the best to manage services in /etc/init.d/ ?
[04:13] <cristiano> ok it works this way!!!! many thx :D
[04:13] <dr_willis> using wildcards that way - may not work with unzip - because of how it handles filenames./wildcards
[04:13] <dr_willis> You can only have so long a command line.
[04:14] <uniq> tintin: 'ksysv' maybe.. don't use it myself. (i use 'update-rc.d' from konsole).
[04:14] <Agios> Tintin: you can use the sysv init editor under system settings or install sysv-rc-conf for a command line tool
[04:16] <Azzco> I've got an error when trying to launch unreal tournament...it only says Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap]  and then aborts...what could be wrong?
[04:18] <Tintin> Thanks guys...
[04:18] <xylus> someone help me please!! im trying to install debian system on my current kubuntu and it wont detect my eathernet
[04:18] <xylus> so how do i find out what driver i need
[04:18] <xylus> so i can slect it from the list
[04:18] <xylus> i tryed network information and got nothing
[04:19] <xylus> anyone have any sugestions?
[04:19] <dr_willis> install debian system on my current kubuntu ?
[04:19] <Tintin> Agios: Ahh... never noticed the system settings sysv editor. Thanks... that's great!
[04:19] <xylus> yeah im installing debian
[04:20] <xylus> and getting rid of kubuntu
[04:20] <dr_willis> so the fact that kubuntu was there... meand nothing then eh? :)
[04:20] <xylus> no
[04:20] <xylus> i just wana know how i can find out what driver i need using kubuntu
[04:20] <xylus> where do i go to find out what driver is needed for my eathernet card
[04:20] <dr_willis> you mean what network card kernel module is loading.
[04:20] <xylus> i guess..
[04:21] <dr_willis> lsmod shows information about all loaded modules.
[04:21] <dr_willis> see what ones are loaded.
[04:22] <xylus> so many
[04:22] <xylus> that i cant tell wich one is the one i need lolz
[04:22] <dr_willis> and what is your network card?
[04:22] <dr_willis> lspci - lists what cards are on the system
[04:22] <xylus> kk ill check
[04:23] <beazely> xylus: lspci -vv|grep Ethernet
[04:23] <Ace2010> may i ask why your installing debian? and what method are you using to install? are you going to donwload the dvds or do a web install?
[04:23] <beazely> once you have the card type, working out the correct module is easy
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> is there a way, to send global messages?
[04:24] <beazely> although for it not to auto configure  seems strange, broken or old??
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> like irc global message
[04:24] <dr_willis> to everyone on this server?
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> no on this server
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> on linux
[04:24] <admiral_proFTW> MeTaMorfoziS, what?
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> when some users logged
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> and logins with root
[04:24] <MeTaMorfoziS> and send a message to all
[04:25] <Ace2010> you mean like when a system admin pops up a message to you saying stuff
[04:25] <uniq> metamorfozis: 'wall'
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/desktop
[04:25] <uniq> metamorfozis: 'wall' or 'write'
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/konqueror
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/sounds
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/titanium
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/Titanium
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/wallpapers
[04:25] <admiral_proFTW> xylus, man stop that
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/kde_box_small.png
[04:25] <admiral_proFTW> use a pastebin or something
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/login
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/readme.txt
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/titanium_crystal.jpg
[04:25] <admiral_proFTW> xylus, STOP
[04:25] <xylus> system:/media/sda6/titanium_fonts.jpg
[04:26] <admiral_proFTW> jesus
[04:26] <MeTaMorfoziS> hm the wall needs a file
[04:27] <brasse> hello
[04:32] <admiral_proFTW> xylan_ if you want to stay in the channel, use the paste bin
[04:32] <admiral_proFTW> !paste
[04:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:32] <schmakk> kdm gives me: *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x082550b0 and kdm.log says my mouse failed preinit. are those two things connecte?
[04:33] <admiral_proFTW> wakko, you read that?
[04:36] <schmakk> oh well, no kde for me
[04:39] <schmakk> how super, 3rd reboot fixed it. this stuff makes no sense.
[04:40] <dr_willis> Thats part of the 'making linux more like windows trend' :)
[04:40] <schmakk> well, why is it that my mouse is usually at /dev/input/event4 and then sometimes at /dev/input/event3?
[04:40] <v3ctor> lol
[04:41] <schmakk> it makes x die in horrible ways
[04:41] <dr_willis> schmakk,  i tend to just use /dev/input/mice
[04:41] <dr_willis> schmakk,  that way its all the mice/pointers. (I think)
[04:41] <schmakk> i tried that but evdev wont work very well with it
[04:41] <dr_willis> Not sure how that works. :) but it works on my laptop that way very well.
[04:45] <wola> hi
[04:45] <lens_> I want to switch from Gnome to Kubuntu... what should I type in the bash prompt?
[04:45] <trappist> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:45] <admiral_proFTW> lens_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <schmakk> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-..... trappist was faster
[04:46] <trappist> I win
[04:46] <lens_> lol, and it will automatically start up Kubuntu?
[04:46] <admiral_proFTW> lens_, it will install it
[04:46] <schmakk> when its done, you can choose kde in gdm
[04:46] <lens_> oh ok, cool :)
[04:46] <trappist> lens_: no, you'll need to log out.  it should ask you at some point if you want to switch your desktop manager from gdm to kdm, and I recommend saying yes.
[04:47] <admiral_proFTW> and when you reboot it,  you can log in with KDE
[04:47] <schmakk> that means that at the login screen, you find select session and click kde
[04:47] <lens_> right on, sounds easy enough... thanks!
[04:47] <lens_> Im gunna do it :)
[04:47] <schmakk> worked for me
[04:47] <lens_> Kubuntu has cooler apps and stuff.
[04:48] <lens_> (made to be integrated with the desktop I mean)
[04:48] <trappist> yeah all the cool guys use kde
[04:48] <admiral_proFTW> lens_, its easier to navigate
[04:48] <admiral_proFTW> I think
[04:48] <lens_> ;-)
[04:48] <dr_willis> CHicks perfer guys that use KDE.
[04:49] <trappist> definitely
[04:49] <dr_willis> chicks hear 'gnome' and think of alt.binary.erotica.midget.wrestlers
[04:49] <dr_willis> :)
[04:49] <lens_> lol
[04:49] <lens_> true
[04:49] <trappist> and you can trust us on that - our presence in a tech channel on irc is evidence that we are experts on chicks
[04:50] <dr_willis> Yea  - all the real loosers are playing MMORPGS
[04:50] <dr_willis> :)
[04:50] <lens_> Well, this chat room is a good size... I'm sick of competing with 900 people to talk in #ubuntu
[04:50] <trappist> psst... it's a "channel"  :)
[04:50] <lens_> yeah :)
[04:51] <dr_willis> lens_,  and they all got ya on Ignore. :P
[04:51] <lens_> haha whatever.
[04:51] <lens_> I'm backing up a DVD so I have to wait a few.
[04:54] <lens_> Geeze my mouse is acting weird, maybe I can change the setting in Kubuntu.
[04:55] <lens_> I put new batteries in it, but it seems to have an inconsistent speed.
[04:55] <eitch0000> where would I go for info about webcams?
[04:56] <trappist> lens_: if you're backing up a dvd, you're probably having i/o issues
[04:56] <lens_> trappist, that makes sense.
[04:56] <eitch0000> where would I go for info about webcams?
[04:56] <lens_> it's almost done, just ripping the iso at the moment.
[04:57] <jaffa_> could some1 please tell me why amarok doesnt want to play my mp3s????
[04:57] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[04:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <admiral_proFTW> jaffa_, restricted formats
[04:58] <admiral_proFTW> open that link up
[04:59] <jaffa_> ok
[05:02] <Azzco> I can't figure out what's the problem over here...I'm trying to launch a game from terminal but all it says is SIGIOT [iot trap]  and aborts...any suggestions?
[05:06] <Agios> Azzco: it could be compiled with an older release of libc or gtk. A recompile might correct it.
[05:06] <Azzco> thx Agios that was something that I needed to hear =)
[05:07] <Azzco> might be back in a while...I've got a backup plan for playing the game too hehe
[05:12] <confused> I cant seem to get nvidia to run properly, is there anyone that could help?
[05:13] <m5m> OpenOffice's Spelling-Checker doesn't seem to work for me at all... anyone have a clue how to tackle this?
[05:16] <Philip5> confused: what about it?
[05:18] <confused> Philip5: this is where I got it from http://cholito.org/2006/03/17/installing-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu/  (it's a small guide) I followed it sort of to the letter but it didnt work out
[05:19] <confused> Philip5: when asked to choose with driver I choose alsa cause nvidia didnt show up in there.. and the enable nvidia config or w/e didnt work cause the cmd wasnt found.. I went to xorg.conf and put nvidia in the drivers place and when booting up the system hangs and I cant see an error or nothing
[05:21] <Philip5> confused: first... is the nvidia module loaded into your kernel? check with 'lsmod | grep nvidia'
[05:22] <confused> Philip5: it shows this nvidia               4550772  0
[05:22] <confused> i2c_core               21904  3 i2c_acpi_ec,nvidia,i2c_nforce2
[05:22] <confused> agpgart                34888  2 nvidia,amd64_agp
[05:22] <Philip5> ok
[05:22] <Philip5> if you run 'glxinfo'
[05:23] <Philip5> you don't get any nvidia info?
[05:23] <confused> uhu thats a lot of info there for the cmd.. I dont know what id look for
[05:24] <Philip5> confused: in the about 3-4 line say 'server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation'
[05:25] <confused> Philip5: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:25] <Philip5> confused: then that is what's wrong... you get the mesa glx instead of nvidia
[05:26] <confused> Philip5: you make it sound like it's so simple lol.. im new to linux
[05:26] <Philip5> it's in your xorg.conf you see that the right glx is loaded
[05:27] <confused> alright i'll open that up
[05:27] <Philip5> confused: could you past your xorg.conf at pastebin?
[05:27] <Philip5> then i can have a look
[05:27] <Philip5> paste
[05:27] <confused> ok I guess
[05:27] <Philip5> !paste
[05:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:27] <confused> I know
[05:28] <Philip5> ok
[05:29] <confused> Philip5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18866
[05:29] <Philip5> ok, i'll check
[05:30] <confused> didnt mean to sound mean or w/e but im used to being on irc now cause things ive tried have yet to run smoothly :X
[05:30] <MukiEX> Is there a way to backup every package I've downloaded via apt to a disc and turn it into a personal repository?
[05:31] <confused> Philip5: I know for drivers it's set to nv but that was the only way to even get kubuntu to boot up
[05:31] <Philip5> confused: ok
[05:31] <Philip5> confused: do you have this file in this place? '/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so'
[05:32] <confused> Philip5: it seems that way since it's asking what I want to run it with
[05:33] <ryanakca> whats the difference between the new kdelibs and the old one? (I'm running upgrade)
[05:34] <Philip5> confused: what asks that?
[05:35] <confused> Philip5: when you asked if I had the file libglx.so I said id assume so cause when I place that in a folder (address bar) and hit enter a window comes up asking what id like to run that file with
[05:35] <confused> Philip5: so yes it's there :X
[05:35] <Philip5> aha
[05:35] <confused> lol
[05:36] <Philip5> try to force it to use the nvidia glx by using 'Load           "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so"'
[05:36] <Philip5> then change nv to nvidia
[05:37] <Philip5> and restart X
[05:38] <confused> dont wanna :X told ya when I did that and tried to start the computer it will hang on a screen and id have to restart
[05:38] <slushpupie> does anyone know of any hacks/patches to make KDM handle pam asking for multiple password inputs?
[05:38] <confused> oh I didnt see that other top message.. umm i'll try that
[05:39] <Philip5> ops... gave you the wrong line there
[05:39] <Philip5> try to force it to use the nvidia glx by using 'Load           "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so"'
[05:41] <confused> I typed that whole thing "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so"' and now in terminal it shows a > after that and nothing else... now try and change nv to nvidia?
[05:42] <yamal> slushpupie: why multiple passwords?
[05:42] <Philip5> confused: now i see
[05:42] <confused> Philip5: what?
[05:42] <Philip5> hehe
[05:43] <confused> yes?
[05:43] <Philip5> to confuse a bit more it should be 'Load           "usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"'
[05:43] <Philip5> if you have that one too
[05:44] <ninniuz> anyone with a asus a8jc laptop?
[05:44] <Philip5> and that one should be a symlink to libglx.so.1.0.8762 in the same dir
[05:44] <slushpupie> yamal: Static password + SecurID
[05:44] <confused> uhu.. not making any sense? I typed that in as shown 'Load "usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"'
[05:44] <confused> now you lost me
[05:44] <slushpupie> yamal: its the Kerberos pam module, actually
[05:44] <Philip5> confused: oh... that line should be in xorg.conf
[05:44] <Philip5> you should't type it in a shell
[05:45] <confused> Philip5: I assume terminal unless stated other wize
[05:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:45] <confused> Philip5: where should it be placed then in xorg.conf?
[05:45] <Philip5> confused: change the line Load "glx" with Load "usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"
[05:46] <Philip5> confused: change the line Load "glx" with Load "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"
[05:46] <yamal> slushpupie: sorry no idea what a SecurID is
[05:46] <Philip5> and first see that you have that file in that place
[05:46] <Philip5> it's the nvidia glx
[05:47] <slushpupie> yamal: Its a physical card I have with a number that changes once per minute. That is in sync with the kerberos server.  Thats the second "password"
[05:48] <Philip5> confused: got it?
[05:48] <yamal> pfff in that case i cant help you
[05:49] <confused> Philip5: umm trying to :) not used to using nano **** in terminal
[05:49] <confused> Philip5: almost done
[05:49] <Philip5> confused: i never use nano :)
[05:50] <confused> Philip5: should there be two "" at the end of that cmd?
[05:50] <confused> Philip5: well what makes me mad is I dont need security what so ever and it always asks for root passwords ;\
[05:50] <confused> Philip5: before having to reinstall kubuntu I had that rid of almost
[05:50] <Philip5> confused: you one at each end like: "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"
[05:51] <confused> Philip5: oh okay I saw two
[05:52] <Philip5> confused: you see how they are written in the modules section of xorg.conf
[05:52] <confused> Philip5: now change nv to nvidia?
[05:53] <Philip5> confused: yes
[05:53] <confused> Philip5: yeah.. had to sudo -s that to get it to write ;\ as I said the perm. stuff is annoying ahha
[05:53] <confused> Philip5: alrighty :) thanks man.. if it dont work i'll be back on ;)
[05:54] <Philip5> confused: if you type 'sudo passwd' then you get a root account with that password that you can login to
[05:54] <Philip5> then you can su instead of always doing sudo
[05:54] <Philip5> if you like
[06:01] <gammamute> hello
[06:01] <Antonio_> hi
[06:01] <gammamute> FUCK YOU
[06:01] <gammamute> I mean
[06:01] <gammamute> hi!
[06:01] <Antonio_> ?
[06:02] <confused> Philip5: I didnt work
[06:02] <Philip5> confused: what now?
[06:03] <confused> Philip5: lol :p I changed nv to nvidia and restarted and the screen still hangs.. had to change back to nv to boot up
[06:03] <Philip5> does it hang so you have to reboot or do you get an error message that X can't start?
[06:04] <confused> like last time.. no message what so ever :(
[06:04] <Cntryboy> Can someone tell me why java isn't working with konqueror web browser?
[06:04] <roconnor> how do I read an entire file into an (IO)Array?
[06:04] <Philip5> confused: that's strange
[06:04] <confused> it gets the a scree where it loads up stuff and when it's about to go to the next screen it stays at the same screen.. it's weird
[06:05] <confused> Philip5: yep
[06:05] <Philip5> confused: can you put you /var/log/Xorg.0.log at pastebin?
[06:05] <confused> Philip5: sure
[06:06] <Philip5> confused: while i take a quick shower here :)
[06:06] <Cntryboy> Anyone, someone?
[06:06] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: you have knoq. open?
[06:06] <confused> Philip5: nm then.. im gone go to bed :X ive been up.. umm 17 hours straight? good night :) thanks for the help
[06:06] <Cntryboy> yes
[06:07] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: do you see dialog?
[06:07] <Cntryboy> I'm in the configure konqueror area, and on the left side im where it says java & javascript
[06:07] <gnomefreak> sorry i mean do you see HTML
[06:07] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: Select "HTML Settings->Java" from the Tools menu to enable it.
[06:08] <Cntryboy> kk yah it was already checked on java script, but then i went to java also
[06:08] <Cntryboy> is that all I have to do?
[06:09] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: restart konq. that *should* be it
[06:09] <Cntryboy> ok let me try
[06:10] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: everytime I restart konq. the check for 'java' isn't there
[06:10] <Cntryboy> it's not saving it as checked
[06:11] <xylus> i cant install a theme titanium.kth with kubuntu anyone know how i can do this?
[06:11] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: you did install sun-java5-bin and set it as default java right?
[06:11] <xylus> it says to go into appearance and install new theme but its not their
[06:12] <Cntryboy> well I apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:12] <Think> hey hi all
[06:12] <Cntryboy> thats what someone here told me to get about 3 days ago
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin  <<< should work than run sudo update-alternatives --config java to set it to default
[06:13] <Think> question i have problem my xserver does not start
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: jre shouold bring in bin and plugin but im not looking at it atm
[06:14] <Cntryboy> I have 2.1KB, why do I have to download the plugin, if I've already spent 15 hours downloading the main java?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: here see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[06:14] <gnomefreak> it tells you everything that you need to know
[06:15] <xylus> someone please help me install a .kth theme for kubuntu
[06:15] <Cntryboy> okay, im going to go there so why would I have to download the plugin if I already have the main java downloaded?
[06:16] <Think> When X does not start what command can i use to fix my video card problem
[06:16] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: first makle sure java is set to default
[06:16] <xylus> or does anyone know how i can install this login screen for kubuntu?
[06:16] <Cntryboy> so type this sudo update-alternatives --config java  ?
[06:17] <Cntryboy> that url u gave me is still taking it's time to load :(
[06:17] <Think> xylus try typ in command kcontrok
[06:17] <Think> xylus try typ in command kcontrol
[06:17] <Cntryboy> how can I see if its set to default
[06:17] <xylus> ok
[06:17] <Think> ok
[06:18] <xylus> wow think yr awesome XD
[06:18] <xylus> thx thats what i was lookin for
[06:18] <xylus> their was no link to it in my menu folders or anything
[06:18] <xylus> thx thx thx XD
[06:18] <Think> your welcome
[06:18] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: yes that is the command
[06:18] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: I have a +   2      /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[06:18] <gnomefreak> you want the one that says java1.5
[06:19] <Cntryboy> I have a 1 and a 3 line but not a + by them just line 2
[06:19] <Cntryboy> okay so hit 3
[06:19] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: yes
[06:19] <gnomefreak> if that is the one
[06:19] <Think> When X does not start what command can i use to fix my video card problem
[06:19] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: after that go back into konq. and reset it
[06:19] <Cntryboy> this is for line 3, so im guessing its it   /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[06:19] <gnomefreak> than restart it
[06:19] <gnomefreak> yes thats the one
[06:19] <Cntryboy> kk js
[06:20] <gnomefreak> Think: what video card?
[06:20] <Think> nvidia
[06:20] <gnomefreak> Think: you need to install nvidia-glx
[06:20] <Think> yes i know
[06:20] <Think> but can't get in kde
[06:21] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: the java won't stay checked after I restart :(
[06:21] <sophie_> hello all I have a quick question
[06:21] <gnomefreak> Think: if you use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set it to vesa (driver) restart X you will have a working GUI so you can fix it
[06:21] <Think> ok
[06:21] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: ok give me a min let me try mine
[06:21] <Think>  thanks
[06:21] <sophie_> how do you enbale musicbrainz for MP3 in amarok?
[06:21] <Cntryboy> kk thx
[06:21] <sophie_> do I have to recompile
[06:22] <Cntryboy> +    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[06:22] <Cntryboy> *     3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[06:22] <Cntryboy> thats what my config says
[06:22] <gnomefreak> thats fine
[06:24] <Cntryboy> i bet I have to save profile after it's checked rigfht?
[06:24] <Cntryboy> maybe thats my prob
[06:24] <gnomefreak> ok found out why just let me try a few things to get it working right
[06:24] <Azzco> Okay I've got some 3D problems now... the 3D screensavers looks horrible
[06:24] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: okay
[06:25] <Azzco> I haven't understood how to add the render accel line in the xorg.conf...could somebody help me with it?
[06:26] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[06:27] <Antonio_> could be "http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper" is down?
[06:27] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: what arch are you using i 386?
[06:27] <Cntryboy> yah
[06:28] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: go into configure konq.
[06:28] <gnomefreak> system>configure konq. than click on java and javascript
[06:28] <Cntryboy> k
[06:28] <Cntryboy> there
[06:28] <gnomefreak> you see at the bottom where is says path?
[06:28] <Cntryboy> yup
[06:29] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: it says java?
[06:29] <grzesiek> hi, I've just installed fresh kubuntu, and after upgrading with the last patches my sound went down. aplay hangs up and plays a sound on and on, and so is amarok and other apps. All worked ok right after install, before updating. Can someone give me any clues? I've got a Via onboard sound card.
[06:29] <Cntryboy> i was wondering about that earlier
[06:29] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: yes it says java
[06:29] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: delete what it says in there and put this /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/lib/i386/
[06:29] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: than hit apply
[06:29] <Cntryboy> done
[06:29] <Cntryboy> now go to html click java and restart?
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: close restart it and look under HTML again to see it checked ;)
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: it should already be checked
[06:30] <Cntryboy> yes
[06:30] <Cntryboy> :), now let me c if it works js
[06:30] <gnomefreak> you have java
[06:32] <Azzco> could someone help me edit xorg.conf?
[06:33] <Azzco> I'm not sure if I'm doing right =$
[06:34] <Azzco> In the forums they're talking about adding this line "option "RenderAccel" "true"" but nothing happend when I did =/
[06:34] <sophie_> sophie_: you are nice
[06:34] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: yes it works now thx bro, I tested it at yahoo-pool. It loaded the applet different than usual though, but ti works :)
[06:36] <Cntryboy> Azzco: is that for direct rendering, because when I glxinfo | grep direct it says no for me also.
[06:37] <Azzco> I'll check what it says for me Cntryboy
[06:37] <Cntryboy> k
[06:37] <andre_> i'm having trouble getting my tv-out to work on my GF6200.  i have my xorg.conf set up for separate screens on the monitor ad the TV, but as soon as X starts the TV loses signal, Xorg.0.log gives no mentiona at all about screen 1 just 0
[06:38] <Azzco> "Direct rendering: no" =/ might that be a problem?
[06:41] <Cntryboy> Azzco: maybe, mine at one time said yes, im trying to see why its no now
[06:41] <Azzco> Cntryboy: what chipset do you have?
[06:42] <Cntryboy> Azzco: a guy told me if you have a recent ATI or Nvidia card you want obtain accelaration suppport unless you install propietary drivers (a.k.a binary blobs). Dri has nothing to do with it (the FOSS dri dirvers simply don't support post 1992 AT/Nvidia cards, blame the vendors).
[06:42] <dr_willis> I hand-edited my xorg.conf and set up twinview to get my tvout and montior both working at the same time.
[06:42] <Cntryboy> i have geforce fx5500
[06:43] <dr_willis> i found several example xorg.conf's on the internet. and just twiddled with them
[06:43] <Azzco> I've got some intel...it autodetects intel 915
[06:44] <andre_> dr_willis: I'm trying to set up tv-out not using twinview so that there are separate screens for each. but the TV gets no signal as soona s X starts. any advice?
[06:44] <Jazon_lap> does anyone know how to enable power management in dapper? (in kde)
[06:44] <Cntryboy> Azzco: try room #ubuntu
[06:44] <yamal> andre_: paste your xorg.conf at the pastebin in the topic so we can take a look
[06:45] <Cntryboy> might find an answer there
[06:45] <Azzco> okay I will, THX =)
[06:45] <dr_willis> andre i set mine up to clone, ive only used twinview.. and it took me a day worth of reading/looking/twiddling with it.
[06:45] <dr_willis> andre could check out that MEPIS live cd. it had a xorg/multimonutor config tool.. if ya can make it work.. copy its xorg.conf :)
[06:46] <andre_> yamal: its already here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18829 and the Xorg.0.log is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18828
[06:46] <andre_> dr_willis: thanks for the suggestion. no blank cdrs att he moment thoguh
[06:47] <timi> how can i change the icon for my open office docements so its not clear
[06:47] <Adam_G> hi, anyone know what the KDE panel process is? (like gnome-panel... for kde)
[06:48] <yamal> andre_: no tv output options?
[06:48] <yamal> tv format etc
[06:48] <insanekane> Adam_G: kicker
[06:48] <Adam_G> insanekane, thanks
[06:48] <andre_> yes, theres an entire device and screen section dedicated to the TV.
[06:48] <yamal> andre_: yes but no tv output formats
[06:49] <Guest477>  is anyone using kubuntu or edubuntu able to use java in an environment like yahoo games? i have repeated and unsuccesfully beaten this to a pulp... note that under this installation of ubuntu i am able to properly access most java based resources
[06:49] <flauzio> hi
[06:49] <yamal> like pal or whatever they use elsewhere
[06:49] <flauzio> this is the forst time i join kubuntu
[06:49] <andre_> yamal: where would I put it? im in canada that's pal right?
[06:49] <yamal> andre_: check the nvidia readme, it tells you which areas use what
[06:50] <yamal> andre_: the options are called  TVStandard and TVOutFormat
[06:51] <andre_> yamal: thanks
[06:51] <yamal> they go in the device section for the tv
[06:51] <yamal> yw
[06:51] <ganymed123> hello
[06:51] <ganymed123> i need some help with graphics-magick
[06:54] <flauzio> i need some help to find documentation about overview of comparing gnome to kde :)
[06:54] <ganymed123> i wanna process a number of images like img1234.jpg to picture-1234.jpg with ascending numbers after the - ... however gm gives me files like: picture.jpg.1234. any ideas?
[06:56] <secleinteer> flauzio: you can just install ubuntu and then add kubuntu-desktop, and then you can try both for yourself
[06:56] <secleinteer> but http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome.php has a comparison
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> how do i enable power management in my kernel?
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> for some reason it is not enabled it tells me
[06:57] <timi> kpowersave >timi
[06:57] <secleinteer> Jazon_lap: should be in system settings
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> i know
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> i agree
[06:57] <ganymed123> Jazon_lap: are you using a laptop?
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> but its not
[06:57] <timi> !kpowersave >timi
[06:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about kpowersave  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:57] <Jazon_lap> yes i am
[06:58] <Jazon_lap> an nec i-select 5410
[06:58] <secleinteer> hence the "lap" part lol
[06:58] <flauzio> secleinteer: thanks already done, and i'm trying them, but i have some doubt
[06:58] <secleinteer> k
[06:58] <flauzio> secelinteer, thx fo the link :)
[06:59] <secleinteer> np ;)
[06:59] <franz_> It happened again! The KDE toolbar at the bottom of the screen refuses to appear when the mouse goes down there, nor at any other location. I can't remember how this problem was solved about 2 weeks ago....
[07:00] <franz_> anyway i suspect this is a bug in KDE
[07:00] <secleinteer> franz_: this happened to me
[07:00] <Lord_Athur> bye
[07:00] <secleinteer> but i have the winkey set to open the kmenu
[07:00] <secleinteer> so i was able to open it like that
[07:00] <secleinteer> but only like that
[07:01] <ganymed123> Jazon_lap: does cpu freuquency scaling work for you?
[07:01] <franz_> nlucky you...
[07:01] <secleinteer> so i went to system settings
[07:01] <franz_> lucky*
[07:01] <secleinteer> and i made it so that it wouldn't auto hide
[07:01] <timi> does kubuntu automatically support dual core
[07:01] <Jazon_lap> the weird thing is that I KNOW the power management works with this laptop - i just swiched to dapper from Kanotix and under kanotix it worked almost perfectly (the only issue was improper video playback after suspending)
[07:01] <secleinteer> then i made it again so it would auto hide
[07:01] <ganymed123> i need some help with the kipi-plugins (gwenview)
[07:01] <secleinteer> and now it works fine
[07:01] <SbCl3> is there a guide somewhere on how to make e16 kde's window manager?
[07:01] <ganymed123> anybody here who know about them?
[07:02] <franz_> secleinteer, now, how i can go to system settings?
[07:02] <dr_willis> SbCl3,  ya could start E16 and run kicker
[07:02] <dr_willis> or whatever the kde panel is called.
[07:02] <ganymed123> Jazon_lap: try the link in the topics section ... dapper known problems
[07:02] <secleinteer> i don't know
[07:02] <secleinteer> try alt+enter to open katapult
[07:02] <secleinteer> and type system settings
[07:03] <franz_> dr_willis, SbCl3 as Antimonium Trichloride?
[07:03] <franz_> it must be toxic.....
[07:04] <Azzco> how do I register?
[07:04] <dr_willis>  - /msg nickserv help
[07:05] <gnomefreak> i think its /msg nickserv help register
[07:06] <SbCl3> Antimony Trichloride, franz :)
[07:06] <gabriel1> Hello
[07:07] <timi> does kubuntu automatically support dual core
[07:07] <timi> because kpowersave only shows one processror
[07:07] <drayan> Yes of course.
[07:08] <timi> then they does it only show one processor
[07:08] <franz_> sorry SbCl3 ... translated from italian....
[07:08] <timi> at 1000mhz whent its a 2ghz dual core
[07:09] <franz_> Anyone can tell me how to open system settings ( i can't access the KDE menu) ?
[07:10] <MuJ> alt-f2 -> kcontrol ?
[07:10] <xylus> hey guys im trying to install superkaramba and it says couldent find package and i tryed sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[07:10] <drayan> Yes, alt-f2 -> systemsettings
[07:10] <secleinteer> xylus: you need to add repos
[07:10] <aztun> franz_: systemsettings on console
[07:10] <xylus> whats a repos sec?
[07:10] <secleinteer> repositories
[07:10] <xylus> u mean a repository?
[07:10] <secleinteer> yeah
[07:10] <xylus> how do i do that
[07:10] <franz_> ok thanks you all.... didn't know the command syntax
[07:11] <secleinteer> lemme get a tutorial
[07:11] <xylus> thanks sec its not hard is it>? <-- total noob
[07:11] <secleinteer> xylus: http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/06/25/tips-adding-extra-repositories-on-ubuntu/
[07:11] <xylus> thx ill check it out
[07:12] <danielknobe> np
[07:12] <danielknobe> im a noob to, but that is important
[07:12] <xylus> hmm this is gibberish to me
[07:12] <secleinteer> lol
[07:13] <franz_> hey, you think this bad behaviour of KDE toolbar is a bug of KDE or is it Kubuntu?
[07:13] <secleinteer> it happened to me after i tried to hide some tray icons
[07:13] <xylus> your private messages are blcok sec
[07:13] <xylus> blocked
[07:13] <danielknobe> hmmm.... KDE is'nt bad
[07:14] <secleinteer> are you registered here?
[07:14] <xylus> nope
[07:14] <xylus> :(
[07:14] <secleinteer> that's why
[07:14] <danielknobe> KDE is a matter of taste.
[07:14] <danielknobe> same like gnome
[07:14] <xylus> ./nickreg or soemthing isent it
[07:14] <secleinteer> do "/msg nickserv REGISTER [password] "
[07:14] <gabriel1> i need help whit ubuntu and firefox and internet, can sombady help me?!
[07:14] <xylus> ok done
[07:14] <secleinteer> and to log in "/msg nickserv id [password] "
[07:15] <franz_> danielknobe, I prefer KDE, but it has some bugs...
[07:17] <danielknobe> does apt-get update work on your maschines, NOW?? or are the servers down?
[07:18] <gabriel1> i need help whit ubuntu and firefox and internet, can sombady help me?!
[07:19] <danielknobe> whats your problem
[07:21] <gabriel1> i have installed all the plugins to firefox but when im gone whats a movie on like youtube ther is only a white squear wher the movie should be
[07:21] <gabriel1> sorry fore my bad english
[07:21] <danielknobe> im german, can't write good too^^
[07:21] <danielknobe> but i understand your problem
[07:21] <gabriel1> :p
[07:22] <gabriel1> and, can you help me?
[07:22] <danielknobe> mom ich check it out
[07:22] <Lynoure> Has anyone by any chance packaged kdissert for ubuntu? I couldn't find one, and could do that, just have to check first
[07:22] <gabriel1> ok
[07:23] <Ace2005> Lynoure: its in the repositories, i just checked in synaptic
[07:24] <danielknobe> hmm it is possible that the servers are not available?
[07:24] <danielknobe> apt-get install do not get a connection
[07:24] <dr_willis> theres some server issues at this time.
[07:24] <gabriel1> i dont know :S
[07:24] <danielknobe> hmm fuck
[07:24] <danielknobe> for your problem:
[07:25] <danielknobe> install vlv media player
[07:25] <gabriel1> ok
[07:25] <danielknobe> than the mozilla-plugin-vlc
[07:25] <danielknobe> and all will be good i think^^
[07:25] <Ace2005> any info on the cause of all this server down time?
[07:25] <danielknobe> no idea
[07:25] <danielknobe> the apt-get upgrade workx
[07:25] <danielknobe> update don't workx
[07:26] <danielknobe> apt-get don't workx, too
[07:26] <danielknobe> with the default aptlist
[07:26] <gabriel1> wher do i install vlv media player
[07:27] <Lynoure> Ace2005: I think I checked this morning... hmm, in backport, perhaps
[07:27] <danielknobe> with apt
[07:27] <gabriel1> what is apt?
[07:27] <danielknobe> lool if u have the aptlist with the resource
[07:27] <danielknobe> omg u don't know apt?^^
[07:28] <gabriel1> no i dont know
[07:28] <danielknobe> it's the think which makes kubuntu to one of the best distris
[07:28] <danielknobe> open the console
[07:28] <danielknobe> write
[07:28] <danielknobe> apt-get install vlc
[07:28] <danielknobe> do somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu
[07:28] <danielknobe> does it workx?
[07:28] <danielknobe> ah
[07:29] <danielknobe> sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:29] <danielknobe> does it work?
[07:29] <gabriel1> i think so
[07:29] <danielknobe> does he install vlc?
[07:30] <gabriel1> yes
[07:30] <danielknobe> n1 good and than install the plugin over the same way
[07:30] <danielknobe> restart firefox
[07:30] <danielknobe> and then all must work i think
[07:31] <gebruiker> HOW DO I UPDATE MY KDE MENU?
[07:31] <MilhousePunkRock> gebruiker: No need to shout, what do you want to upgrade?
[07:31] <danielknobe> what do u mean?
[07:31] <gabriel1> dosent work:)
[07:31] <gabriel1> *:(
[07:31] <danielknobe> arr
[07:31] <gebruiker> for example, kate isn't in the menu while i can invoke it from the xterm console...
[07:31] <danielknobe> to download the plugin?
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> if you rightclick on the kmenu icon, you can edit the menu, gebruiker
[07:32] <gebruiker>  MilhousePunkRock how do I set a gtk theme that looks like my qt env?
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't know, gebruiker, sorry
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Someone for sure does though
[07:34] <gabriel1> i donsent work !!!
[07:34] <danielknobe> could u download the plugin?
[07:34] <gabriel1> yes
[07:35] <danielknobe> i can't download the plugin because the servers are down oO
[07:35] <gabriel1> where do you install plugins?
[07:35] <danielknobe> with apt over the standart aptlist
[07:36] <gabriel1> yes, only i knowed what apt was:P
[07:36] <danielknobe> do somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu
[07:36] <danielknobe> hu this sentence i don't understand^^
[07:36] <gabriel1> what is apt
[07:37] <MilhousePunkRock> danielknobe: Did you look at the Wiki at ubuntu.whateveritis?
[07:37] <danielknobe> the "packagemanager" for debian based distris
[07:37] <user_> it seems that an update today destroyed my /et/fstab. im running edgy
[07:37] <user_> has someone experienced the same problem?
[07:38] <danielknobe> @ Milhouse what du u mean?
[07:38] <gabriel1> but how do you download plugins?
[07:39] <danielknobe> sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[07:40] <danielknobe> servers are online now
[07:41] <danielknobe> u can download the plugin now
[07:41] <Lynoure> Ace2005: Thanks :) I usually keep backports commented out unless I know I want something from there. Would have missed this one without your comment
[07:41] <timi> ive installed  kubuntu a few days ago, adn its the only operating system on my computer, ive set up firefox and the appropriate plugins and it says that ive used half my ram
[07:42] <timi> whihc was 1gb
[07:42] <bernabe> holaaa!!!
[07:42] <sebast> that's odd
[07:42] <bernabe> hallo
[07:42] <sebast> maybe a bug
[07:42] <danielknobe> close porn in the background^^ small joke
[07:43] <timi> yeah the widget i hvae saves 551 of 1003MB
[07:43] <danielknobe> where can u see your ram-status
[07:43] <timi> i have a widget
[07:43] <timi> im just really confused because i thought linux wasnt a memory hog like windows
[07:43] <uniq> timi: that's the cached ram too, i guess. check with 'free -m'
[07:43] <tsdgeos> you can also type "free"
[07:43] <dr_willis> timi,  linux isent.. its the other apps that are.
[07:43] <timi> uniq
[07:44] <dr_willis> unused ram - is wasted ram. when in doubt - its used as a cache.
[07:44] <timi> is that in konsole i type that
[07:44] <danielknobe> let's say gnu/linux^^
[07:44] <danielknobe> is here somebody how is a developer in C++???
[07:45] <gabriel1> no
[07:45] <Kr4t05> danielknobe: Are you looking for someone who knows C++?
[07:45] <timi> it says i have 17868 free
[07:45] <timi> and 415964 cached
[07:45] <Chousuke> I know some C++, so if your question is simple, I might be able to answer it.
[07:45] <Chousuke> timi: that's good, then
[07:45] <timi> ill take your word on it
[07:45] <Chousuke> timi: The amount of cache is what matters.
[07:46] <steveire> roughly how long might it take for cds to be shipped to germany?
[07:46] <Chousuke> if you have 0 cache and 0 free, then you have apps eating all your RAM.
[07:46] <uniq> timi: yes. with 'free -m' what is used by applications is approx. (used)-(cached). with 'free -m' you get everything in megabytes..
[07:46] <garar> hi
[07:46] <garar> where can I setup my tv output?
[07:46] <Kr4t05> Heh, I like how my CDs were post-marked in France. :P
[07:46] <timi> i c
[07:47] <timi> so out of 1002 i have 423 free+cached and thats good?
[07:47] <yuyu> hi
[07:47] <Chousuke> timi: sounds okay
[07:48] <Chousuke> timi: remember that firefox uses a lot of memory for page render cache
[07:48] <thygrrr> Hi! I have the following partitions on a harddrive: 30MB (sic) Primary FAT ('system volume'), Extended[Logical hda5 30GB NTFS, Logical hda6 16GB /, Logical hda7 16 GB /home, Logical hda8 8 GB swap]  ... I want to delete hda6, extend the extended partition to span the entire disk, and create a new 30.03 GB partition in the free space before /hda6.
[07:48] <timi> ok
[07:48] <Chousuke> timi: it's a feature, but people often mistake it for a memory leak, because it causes firefox to use huge amounts of memory. :P
[07:48] <thygrrr> What do I need to do to my /fstab and grub config? :) Will it even work to boot from an extrneded partition?
[07:48] <Chousuke> Firefox really only uses that feature if you have enough memory to afford it.
[07:49] <timi> ok so if i cleare the cache then it will be cool
[07:49] <thygrrr>  ... /etc/fstab, even. I'm trying to understand volumes/devices in linux.
[07:49] <dr_willis> rember that grub starts counting the drives at 0, :P if ya remove a drive the others get 'reordered' when grub scans them
[07:50] <thygrrr> dr_willis, thanks!
[07:50] <danielknobe> blobby.sourceforge.net if u like blobby volley ;)
[07:56] <gabriel1> Daniel: im using a other browser that i can play the movies on like movies on youtube but thers no sound
[07:57] <locoblade> hey
[07:58] <locoblade> in kubuntu's add remove programs how do I search for programs?
[07:58] <danielknobe> how can i install java, cant find the packages with apt
[07:58] <locoblade> eg for xine nothing comes up
[07:58] <locoblade> and when i search for fire fox it comes up but is greyed out
[07:59] <locoblade> hope people dont mind newbs here
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> This is the place where noobs learn, locoblade
[08:01] <thygrrr> I have a small primary "boot" partition (30 mb) at the beginning of my hard drive. I'd like to remove it and (multi)boot from my logical partitions in an extended partition that spans the entire volume. What steps to I have to do? I heard drive numbers may change for grub, etc.
[08:01] <gabriel1> Daniel: sounddriver?
[08:02] <locoblade> so say I want to install fire fox
[08:02] <locoblade> how do i go about it?
[08:02] <scabootssca> how do i remove the ati driver and revert back to the default
[08:02] <danielknobe> reconfigure your xorg
[08:03] <danielknobe> dkpg-reconfigure xorg
[08:03] <scabootssca> the thing is still in the menu though
[08:03] <mattttttt> hmm
[08:03] <gabriel1> what can i do about my sounddriver?
[08:04] <MilhousePunkRock> locoblade: Open a console and type "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[08:04] <locoblade> ok
[08:04] <scabootssca> mabye i can go to the package manager and remove all the fglx things?
[08:04] <locoblade> and what about other programs?
[08:04] <locoblade> say I find one I want to install
[08:04] <stanks> hello
[08:04] <gabriel1> how do i install opera?
[08:04] <locoblade> like a new mo3 player
[08:05] <danielknobe> apt-get install opera
[08:05] <danielknobe> no no
[08:05] <locoblade> firefox has no installation candidate BTW
[08:05] <danielknobe> opera is not per apt available
[08:06] <locoblade> by the way im on a ppc
[08:06] <gabriel1> what fore browsers do you use?
[08:07] <MilhousePunkRock> you can always look in adept, locoblade. Add some more repos there, or you can download packages and install them yourself...
[08:07] <timi> whts the command to open network settings
[08:07] <danielknobe> firefox
[08:07] <locoblade> thats the thing
[08:07] <locoblade> adept only seems to list programs I already have
[08:07] <jackle> I'm currently using suse10, can anyone recommend kubuntu ?
[08:07] <forkz> YES!
[08:07] <Kr4t05> !tell locoblade about universe
[08:07] <jackle> reason?
[08:08] <locoblade> universe?
[08:09] <forkz> jackle: Actually, it's the only dist i ever tried :P
[08:09] <Kr4t05> locoblade: you need to enable the "uni/multiverse" repositories in order to install certain programs.
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> !universe
[08:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:09] <jackle> can one setup a vpn gateway easily with it?
[08:09] <locoblade> yeah i got those links ubotu
[08:09] <locoblade> im reading them now
[08:09] <locoblade> thanks
[08:10] <locoblade> how do i enable those repositories? and why do i need to?
[08:10] <Chousuke> Opera does have an apt repo though.
[08:10] <jackle> last question: does kubuntu have some sort of control centre such as yast which I can use to config the system?
[08:11] <Kr4t05> jackle: Kmenu -> System Settings
[08:11] <MilhousePunkRock> System Settings in the Kmenu, jackle
[08:11] <jackle> isnt that the kde control centre?
[08:11] <forkz> Yes.... and Kubuntu uses KDE
[08:11] <Kr4t05> jackle: nope.
[08:11] <jackle> ha
[08:11] <forkz> ah damn... wrong by me
[08:12] <jackle> ok
[08:12] <jackle> deal
[08:12] <Kr4t05> kcontrol is the KDE control centre
[08:12] <jackle> burining disk
[08:13] <bbt> could someone help me with some wireless issues? trying to get ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant to work and getting nowhere as the usb card is being pout in iwconfig as eth3 instead of wlan0
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Take everyone. Over and out!
[08:17] <gabriel1> whats the name on the other web browser not firefox, E somthing!
[08:18] <Pupeno> Epiphany ?
[08:18] <forkz> Internet Explorer? :P
[08:18] <gabriel1> can you have internet explorer on linux?
[08:18] <Pupeno> or konquEror ?
[08:18] <secleinteer> gabriel1: yes
[08:18] <secleinteer> you have to wine it
[08:18] <whizz--> i want to build a kernel module, the readme says: "First you have to configure your kernel appropriately. etc.. etc" how do i do this?
[08:19] <Pupeno> gabriel1: please, don't.
[08:19] <the_hammer> anyone here good at eggdrop bots?
[08:19] <secleinteer> he prolly needs it for web development
[08:19] <gabriel1> how do you install IE then?
[08:19] <secleinteer> check ubuntuforums.org
[08:19] <secleinteer> the HOWTO section
[08:20] <locoblade> ok ive figured out that i need to edit sources.list to enable universe, but I haven't write access
[08:20] <gabriel1> ok
[08:20] <locoblade> dont I have to enter into super mode or something?
[08:20] <secleinteer> locoblade: go to terminal
[08:20] <locoblade> ok
[08:20] <secleinteer> sudo kate /etc/X11/sources.list
[08:20] <secleinteer> then you can edit
[08:20] <locoblade> sudo means what?
[08:20] <secleinteer> superuser do
[08:20] <locoblade> just out of interst
[08:20] <mattttttt> anyone know how i can set up my second monitor?
[08:20] <locoblade> ok
[08:20] <locoblade> cheers
[08:21] <mattttttt> so i can have dual monitor goodness again
[08:22] <jackle> mattttttt: twinview
[08:24] <jacko> is it possible within X to specify 1 program not to use my window manager
[08:25] <trappist> jacko: no, but it may be possible with your window manager to say not to decorate a particular app
[08:25] <jacko> no that is not what i need
[08:27] <florian> hallo!
[08:27] <locoblade> ok it looks like I have universe "unlocked" but adept still brings up the same results
[08:28] <trappist> locoblade: did you say 'sudo apt-get update'?
[08:28] <florian> is this english channel?
[08:28] <locoblade> no
[08:28] <locoblade> lemme try that
[08:28] <usama> hi all
[08:29] <locoblade> oh cool
[08:29] <usama> can anyone tell me that from where I can tell konqueror to scan for plugins?
[08:29] <locoblade> looks like something's happening
[08:29] <trappist> locoblade: you have to do that whenever you modify your sources.list, for the changes to take effect
[08:29] <locoblade> when the packages are downloaded do i just rerun adept?
[08:30] <timi> how do i detect my sensors
[08:30] <trappist> locoblade: it's not downloading packages, it's downloading information about available packages.  and yes.
[08:30] <locoblade> cool
[08:30] <locoblade> thanks
[08:30] <trappist> timi: sudo sensors-detect
[08:31] <timi> it says sensors-detect command not found
[08:31] <edward_f> is there a tool to join the .000/.001/002./etc files found on usenet (like mastersplitter for Win)?
[08:32] <ganymed123> hei
[08:32] <ganymed123> hi
[08:32] <gabriel1> hey
[08:32] <ganymed123> i need help with bash scripting
[08:32] <usama> can anyone guide me about that plugins scanning question?
[08:32] <ganymed123> i have the following command
[08:32] <gabriel1> can sombady help me whit plugins in konqbrowser
[08:32] <ganymed123> for i in *.JPG ; do convert $i -resize x768 -quality 85 `basename picture- .jpg`.jpg ; done
[08:33] <gabriel1> can sombady help me whit plugins in konqbrowser
[08:33] <timi> what does it mean if sudo sensors-detect" returns sensors detect command not found
[08:33] <trappist> edward_f: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[08:33] <ganymed123> so it should convert *.JPG to picture-NUMBER.jpg, but i cannot figure out how to increase the number part (i cannot introduce a second variable)
[08:33] <ganymed123> any ideas
[08:34] <ganymed123> ?
[08:34] <gabriel1> can sombady help me whit plugins in konqbrowser!
[08:34] <timi> gabriel wht plugin
[08:34] <trappist> ganymed123: x=$(($x+1))
[08:34] <gabriel1> Flash player 7 to linux
[08:35] <usama> gabriel1: I have an idea, that install plugins for firefox and tell konqueror to scan the .mozilla folder
[08:35] <Lynoure> timi: that the command wasn't found... Did you isntall it yourself?
[08:35] <locoblade> ok that seems to have worked to a degree
[08:35] <timi> i jut installed the lm sensors
[08:35] <timi> with the apt get
[08:35] <locoblade> i had a good few extra programs in adept
[08:36] <usama> gabriel1: but I forgot that where we used to tell konqueror to rescan for plugins
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Settings - COnfigure konqueror - Plugins - scan for plugins
[08:36] <locoblade> but if I want stuff like eclipse, gaim, firefox, what do I need to do?
[08:36] <timi> locoplade apt get them
[08:36] <timi> sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:36] <locoblade> can you explain that?
[08:36] <timi> in konsole
[08:37] <locoblade> I think i tried that
[08:37] <edward_f> trappist: that remark must have been misdirected or have been a joke... lm-sensors has nothing to do with file joining
[08:37] <usama> thoreauputic: no, plugins is not given there, I mean in konqueror configuration
[08:37] <locoblade> ill try again though
[08:37] <thoreauputic> usama: it is here
[08:37] <trappist> edward_f: probably misdirected, sorry
[08:37] <thoreauputic> usama: in konq
[08:37] <trappist> edward_f: I use pan as my nntp client, and it assembles multipart binaries automatically
[08:38] <usama> thoreauputic: konqueror configuration is here open before my eyes and I can not see it, its not there
[08:38] <usama> thoreauputic: :(
[08:38] <timi> locoblade tell me if it worked
[08:38] <timi> u may need to update repositories to include universe
[08:38] <locoblade> looks like firefox might be
[08:38] <thoreauputic> usama: well, I just checked it here and it definitely is there
[08:38] <trappist> edward_f: other than that, I've never dealt with them, but I suspect you could cat them, as in cat prefix.* > newfile
[08:39] <locoblade> yeah i managed to get universe going
[08:39] <thoreauputic> Settings - Configure Konqueror - Plugins
[08:39] <edward_f> trappist: will try that then
[08:39] <timi> so is it installing firefox
[08:39] <timi> timi
[08:39] <locoblade> but immwondering about eclipse gaim, xine etc
[08:39] <PingunZ> When I change my /boot/config-2.6.17 file, how can I make that work  ?
[08:39] <locoblade> do i just do the same thing?
[08:39] <usama> thoreauputic: I installed konqueror in my ubuntu, is there anything missing?
[08:39] <trappist> timi: I meant to tell you that - sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[08:39] <thoreauputic> usama: I doubt it
[08:40] <thoreauputic> usama: you might need to scroll down in the config dialogue
[08:40] <timi> trappist: i did that and installled, then i did sensors detect, apparently my laptop has no sensors
[08:40] <trappist> timi: it probably has no *supported* sensors.
[08:40] <timi> ic
[08:40] <usama> thoreauputic: I checked the every tab of it, but can not find it :(
[08:40] <locoblade> when i install these programs, what do I have to do to get them to show u?
[08:40] <timi> download a pakckage?
[08:40] <timi> restart x
[08:40] <locoblade> up*
[08:40] <locoblade> ok
[08:40] <timi> cnrtl alt backspace
[08:40] <timi> then log back in
[08:40] <usama> thoreauputic: in my previous it was there
[08:41] <locoblade> yeah ill try that soon
[08:41] <locoblade> once this is finshed
[08:41] <scabootssca> how do i change the login screen?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> usama: *sigh* it is definitely there - Under the settings menu as i said
[08:41] <locoblade> firefox seems to have been successful
[08:41] <locoblade> if i want eclipse
[08:41] <thoreauputic> usama: is this dapper/ 6.06 ?
[08:41] <locoblade> do i just replace firefox with eclipse
[08:41] <locoblade> in the command line?
[08:41] <timi> trappist anypackages you know of for sensors
[08:41] <usama> thoreauputic: yes
[08:41] <timi> locoblade
[08:41] <timi> maybe try it
[08:42] <locoblade> yeah
[08:42] <trappist> timi: sensors are supported by the kernel.  afaik there are no extra packages to install to support other sensors.
[08:42] <locoblade> really what i mean is how do i find out what to stick in there?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> usama: up to date with security/ updates?
[08:42] <timi> ok
[08:42] <trappist> locoblade: apt-cache search is a great way to find the package you need
[08:42] <locoblade> ok
[08:42] <usama> thoreauputic: yes
[08:42] <locoblade> eclipse is working it seems btw
[08:43] <locoblade> this is great
[08:43] <timi> can i get superkaramba to start up when i log in
[08:43] <timi> or do i have to start it everytime
[08:43] <thoreauputic> !info ksensors
[08:43] <ubotu> ksensors: lm-sensors frontend for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-9ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 292 kB, installed size 912 kB
[08:43] <trappist> timi: put a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:44] <timi> so i just find that file and type in superkaramba?
[08:44] <locoblade> can i have 2 terminals running at once?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> locoblade: of course
[08:44] <locoblade> k
[08:44] <xylus> can anyone tell me where i can acess my dvd drive using kubuntu
[08:44] <thoreauputic> locoblade: you can have 10 or even 50 if you like :)
[08:45] <xylus> like it should be under media
[08:45] <usama> thoreauputic: info ksensors, what's that
[08:45] <xylus> but its not
[08:45] <gabriel1> is ther a browser whit allready installed flash and other plugins?
[08:45] <timi> no
[08:45] <thoreauputic> usama: front end for lm-sensors
[08:45] <usama> thoreauputic: and what's Im-sensors
[08:45] <thoreauputic> usama: see ubotu's answer
[08:45] <gabriel1> Doh
[08:45] <xylus> can someone tell me where the folder is for my dvd drive??
[08:45] <xylus> its not under media or mnt
[08:46] <thoreauputic> usama: kernel stuff to monitor temperatures, voltages etc
[08:46] <locoblade> sudo apt-cache search tells me i must give exactly one search pattern
[08:46] <thoreauputic> locoblade: you don't need sudo for apt-cache search btw
[08:46] <locoblade> oh
[08:46] <usama> thoreauputic: hmm, ok thanks, is there any other way to configure plugins for my konqueror?
[08:47] <locoblade> but that shouldnt make any difference
[08:47] <thoreauputic> usama: did you install flash from the repositories? If so konq should find an use it
[08:47] <locoblade> yeah it doesnt
[08:47] <usama> thoreauputic: yes
[08:47] <gabriel1> how do you install flash whit konq?
[08:48] <usama> thoreauputic: but konqueror asks to download it again
[08:48] <thoreauputic> usama: then it should work - I don't know why it doesn't
[08:48] <usama> thoreauputic: it thinks that the flash is not installed
[08:48] <thoreauputic> !info flashplayer-nonfree
[08:48] <ubotu> Package flashplayer-nonfree does not exist in dapper
[08:48] <thoreauputic> hmm
[08:48] <gabriel1> how do you install flash whit konq?
[08:49] <trappist> I think it's flashplugin-nonfree
[08:49] <thoreauputic> ah
[08:49] <thoreauputic> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[08:49] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:49] <locoblade> still cant get apt-cache search to work
[08:49] <thoreauputic> thanks :)
[08:49] <gabriel1> how do you install flash whit konq??!
[08:49] <timi> man kubuntu is awesome
[08:49] <timi> sudo apt-get install flashplugin
[08:50] <timi> gabriel try that^
[08:50] <timi> !plugins
[08:50] <gabriel1> ok:P
[08:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about plugins - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:50] <thoreauputic> locoblade: try something like  apt-cache search browser
[08:50] <locoblade> will do
[08:50] <thoreauputic> locoblade: that should give you a lot of output :)
[08:50] <gabriel1> E: Unable to lock the administration direE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?ctory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:50] <trappist> locoblade: apt-cache search keyword
[08:50] <locoblade> weyhey
[08:50] <locoblade> how do i learn stuff like that?
[08:51] <scabootssca> how do i change the login screen to one where you click the name instead of typeing?
[08:51] <thoreauputic> gabriel1: close the other instance of apt you have open
[08:51] <thoreauputic> locoblade:  sudo apt-get install apt-howto
[08:51] <z00m> need some help here with how to edit boot options on kubuntu 6.06 i need to make sure that irqpoll is selected in the boot options, i have done a hardisk install so where do i edit the boot options
[08:51] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:51] <timi> gabiel sorry
[08:51] <gabriel1> timi: it says colud not find the flashplugin
[08:51] <timi> yeah its
[08:51] <timi> flashplugin-nonfree
[08:52] <timi> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:52] <gabriel1> no couldendt find :(
[08:52] <thoreauputic> gabriel1: then you need to add repositories
[08:52] <thoreauputic> !repos
[08:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:52] <timi> ok gabriel do this
[08:52] <timi> open adept
[08:52] <z00m> thoreauputic: do you know where to edit boot options
[08:52] <z00m> ??
[08:52] <gabriel1> ok
[08:52] <ganymed123> ciao
[08:53] <thoreauputic> z00m: such as ?
[08:53] <z00m> i want to add irqpoll to it
[08:53] <timi> ok now in the toolbar, click on adpet then mangae repositories
[08:54] <timi> gabriel tell me when your done
[08:54] <z00m> gatekeeper: hi do you know where to edit boot options in kubuntu ?>
[08:54] <thoreauputic> z00m: you can probably put it in /etc/rc.local
[08:54] <gabriel1> wait is the adpet packetmaneger on system -> admin -> packetmanger
[08:55] <locoblade> just while im waiting
[08:55] <timi> umm
[08:55] <timi> yes
[08:55] <gabriel1> ware do i open
[08:55] <locoblade> do i have to set up samba from the command line?
[08:55] <timi> thats it
[08:55] <gatekeeper> z00m, do you mean grub, or beyond that?
[08:55] <gabriel1> and in the toolbar adpet is packet?
[08:55] <timi> yes
[08:56] <timi> open adept
[08:56] <locoblade> yes me?
[08:56] <timi> gabriel
[08:56] <gabriel1> yes
[08:56] <timi> ok its open
[08:56] <z00m> well u know from the first main screen when you install kubuntu, there is an option which is  key F6 to edit boot options
[08:56] <timi> then in the adept tool bar, click adept then manage repositoreis
[08:56] <gabriel1> yes but you cant press anything
[08:56] <timi> ok on the bottom look for a button that says administrator mode
[08:57] <z00m> i had to put irqpoll in there, now i have done the install im getting the same error because i need to add that to stop the error
[08:57] <gabriel1> timi i have swedish language so it is not so easy
[08:57] <z00m> to the boot options on the harddisk now
[08:57] <timi> o
[08:58] <timi> it should have prompted you for a password when you opened it
[08:58] <timi> b/c you have to be root to open it
[08:58] <gatekeeper> z00m, I don't but would imagine it's a conf file associated with kdm
[08:58] <thoreauputic> z00m: is this a kernel option ? if so it goes in /boot/grub/menu.list on the relevent kernel line
[08:58] <gabriel1> ok im ther
[08:58] <z00m> thoreauputic: yes it is
[08:58] <timi> did you do the adept them manage repositories
[08:58] <thoreauputic> z00m: then as I said , you edit it in the menu.list
[08:59] <gatekeeper> z00m, thoreauputic my guess was a country mile out :-)
[08:59] <gabriel1> yes
[08:59] <timi> ALRIGHT
[09:00] <z00m> thoreauputic: i have the dir for menu at that location but not the menu.list file :?
[09:00] <timi> now your going to need to enable some repositories
[09:00] <gabriel1> ok
[09:00] <z00m> ../usr/share/menu
[09:00] <thoreauputic> z00m: you must have a /boot/grub/menu.list or the machine wouldn't have booted at all  :)
[09:00] <timi> enable the first 3 sets of http's
[09:00] <timi> just right click and enable
[09:01] <z00m> ah sorry , my heads gone
[09:01] <thoreauputic> ah soory menu.lst
[09:01] <gabriel1> yes
[09:02] <thoreauputic> z00m: sorry my mistake it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:02] <timi> alrigth your done
[09:02] <timi> with that
[09:02] <gabriel1> yes
[09:03] <kakabiza> hi
[09:03] <timi> ok now on the third pair of https
[09:03] <z00m> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet spl$
[09:03] <xylus> hey guys im using a applet called awesomekaramba for karamba and i would like to know why it dosent display my cpu temp and if i need to download a sensor or not
[09:03] <timi> under the components comment what does it say
[09:03] <z00m> thoreauputic: would i need to add it in there
[09:03] <gabriel1> ok
[09:03] <locoblade> can anyone tell me when i try to play mp3s in amarok each song in the playlist takes about a second and no sound?
[09:03] <thoreauputic> z00m: yes at the end of the line - but check the syntax, I'm not sure of that
[09:03] <locoblade> even though i get startup sounds etc#
[09:04] <thoreauputic> z00m: after splash I think
[09:04] <gatekeeper> locoblade, what engine are you using?
[09:04] <locoblade> how do i check
[09:04] <z00m> ok ill try that now
[09:04] <locoblade> kaffine i think
[09:04] <z00m> brb
[09:04] <xylus> can anyone help me figure out why my karamba app isent displaying cup temp?
[09:05] <scabootssca> is there a way to make a program if it's on a diffrent desktop not show up in the little bar?
[09:05] <thoreauputic> xylus: you probably need to install and configure lm-sensors
[09:05] <locoblade> no its a xine engine
[09:05] <xylus> thanks for responce tho could u plz pm me
[09:05] <xylus> where i would get those plz
[09:05] <thoreauputic> xylus: no, keep it in the channel please
[09:05] <timi> gabriel you still there
[09:05] <thoreauputic> !info lm-sensors
[09:05] <xylus> ok where do i get the sensonrs
[09:05] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In repository main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[09:05] <thoreauputic> ^^^^
[09:06] <xylus> !info im-sensors
[09:06] <ubotu> Package im-sensors does not exist in dapper
[09:06] <thoreauputic> xylus: its an "L"
[09:06] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:06] <timi> !info lm-sensors
[09:06] <locoblade> gatekeeper: its a xine engine that amarok uses
[09:06] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In repository main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[09:06] <gatekeeper> locoblade, you just libxene-extracodecs (might have got the name slight wrong) installed
[09:06] <thoreauputic> see ubotu
[09:06] <xylus> lol
[09:06] <locoblade> oh
[09:06] <xylus> !info lm-sensors
[09:06] <xylus> nothing happen :(
[09:06] <timi> gabriel u ther
[09:06] <locoblade> say that again please gatekeeper
[09:06] <timi> that becae i just type dit xylus
[09:06] <timi> see above
[09:06] <locoblade> im a bit thick ;)
[09:06] <thoreauputic> xylus: no need to keep asking - its right above
[09:07] <gabriel1> ye
[09:07] <timi> ok what did it say
[09:07] <timi> did it say universe
[09:07] <thoreauputic> xylus:  sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[09:07] <jmarx> I need some help configuring the internal modem on an Acer TravelMate 420
[09:07] <xylus> ok thanks alot thoreauputic
[09:07] <thoreauputic> heh
[09:07] <gatekeeper> locoblade, you just libxene-extracodecs (might have got the name slight wrong) installed
[09:08] <thoreauputic> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:08] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:08] <locoblade> in terminal i type libxene-extracodecs?
[09:08] <gatekeeper> locoblade, ^^^^^
[09:08] <thoreauputic> locoblade: *read* the info above from ubotu!
[09:08] <locoblade> ok
[09:08] <gatekeeper> cheers thoreauputic
[09:08] <thoreauputic> does anyone in here actually read *anything* ?
[09:08] <locoblade> i cant make sense of that
[09:09] <locoblade> i have dapper kubuntu
[09:09] <thoreauputic> locoblade:  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:09] <locoblade> ok
[09:09] <locoblade> ty
[09:09] <locoblade> lol
[09:09] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[09:09] <gabriel1> Yes
[09:09] <timi> ok gabriel
[09:09] <timi> click on universe
[09:09] <locoblade> ok well im still downloading eclipse
[09:10] <timi> and add mulitverse behind it
[09:10] <locoblade> ill let you know if that worksw
[09:10] <timi> it should look like this
[09:10] <timi> "universe mulitverse"
[09:10] <timi> do that for both
[09:10] <locoblade> dont suppose any of you guys know why the cd eject button on my ibook is acting as the right mouse button?
[09:10] <timi> then apply changes and fetch updates
[09:10] <Mez> locoblade, no idea - but it sounds fun !
[09:10] <locoblade> lol
[09:10] <locoblade> yeah
[09:10] <gabriel1> ok
[09:11] <locoblade> i have to restart the computer to change cds
[09:11] <thoreauputic> locoblade: hit fn first
[09:11] <Mez> plug a mighty mouse in and see if you can get it to eject the CD
[09:11] <locoblade> damn
[09:11] <locoblade> it worked
[09:11] <locoblade> lmao
[09:11] <thoreauputic> locoblade: the eject works with the Fn key
[09:11] <locoblade> i really feel stupid
[09:11] <thoreauputic> locoblade: F11 and F12 are mapped to middle and right click
[09:12] <locoblade> maybe someday I'll be able to help someone else feel stupid
[09:12] <locoblade> yeah i can see that
[09:12] <locoblade> how do you guys know all this?
[09:12] <timi> alright gabriel
[09:12] <thoreauputic> locoblade: it's like learning pool - if you waste enough time you eventually get to know how ;)
[09:12] <locoblade> haha
[09:13] <timi> now
[09:13] <locoblade> you should know im pretty good at pool
[09:13] <timi> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:13] <amarokker> question: about the logs that appear in kopete logs...are they always sent successfully?
[09:13] <amarokker> on slow connections/msn-server holdups, it gets delays
[09:13] <thoreauputic> locoblade: then you ar perfectly suited to linux ;)
[09:14] <thoreauputic> locoblade: a similar waste of your youth and rsources is required ;p
[09:14] <timi> gabriel is it working
[09:14] <GIGANTOR> LOL
[09:14] <timi> *ff
[09:14] <thoreauputic> :D
[09:14] <ubuntu> eh
[09:14] <GIGANTOR> your loss  ;)
[09:14] <mattttttt> weee
[09:14] <timi> how do tyou guys but the * in front of your name
[09:14] <timi> or change fonts and stuff
[09:15] <thoreauputic> timi /me says/does something
[09:15] <timi> ok
[09:15] <thoreauputic> timi: like /me is tired of clueless people who ask for help all the time ( joking)
[09:15] <thoreauputic> ;)
[09:15] <timi> gabriel are you still wiht me buddy
[09:15] <timi> lol
[09:15] <gabriel1> yes
[09:16] <timi> did it work
[09:16] <gabriel1> no it installed but its the same
[09:16] <locoblade> will i have to restart x server to see if that libxine extracodecs works?
[09:16] <mattttttt> i'm in the kubuntu install thing now. I want to be able to dual boot. should i choose manually edit partition table?
[09:16] <timi> it installed flash?
[09:16] <thoreauputic> locoblade: no
[09:16] <locoblade> ok
[09:16] <locoblade> well i think im still having problems then
[09:17] <thoreauputic> locoblade: just restart amarok or whatever you were using
[09:17] <timi> restart xserver then open something with flash and see if ti works
[09:17] <timi> cntrl alt backspace then log backin
[09:17] <timi> does anyone use aero all inone
[09:17] <thoreauputic> erm - libxine-extracodecs has nothing remotely to do with flash
[09:17] <timi> im working with gabriel
[09:17] <thoreauputic> ah sorry
[09:17] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:18] <timi> its ok lol
[09:18] <GIGANTOR> sooooo, who knows commands to help me build KDE from source
[09:19] <GIGANTOR> i'm shite on the command line
[09:19] <thoreauputic> GIGANTOR: what on earth for?
[09:19] <GIGANTOR> i was told to build the kicker from source first
[09:19] <thoreauputic> why?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> GIGANTOR: by whom?
[09:19] <GIGANTOR> well, with someone's help i have altered the source of KDE to allow me to change my taskbar font to white
[09:19] <GIGANTOR> by some guy that cut out on me
[09:19] <GIGANTOR> so, i've altered some file...  now i'm supposed to compile the kicker
[09:20] <noxs> hi ll
[09:20] <noxs> hi all
[09:20] <GIGANTOR> and then apparently compile KDE
[09:20] <thoreauputic> GIGANTOR: you realise that compiling KDE is a major task, right?
[09:20] <GIGANTOR> i'm ready  ;)
[09:20] <thoreauputic> as in, very complex
[09:20] <xylus> ok i have installed lm sensors but my app still isent displaying cpu tem fanspeed or core ny idea how i can edit the code for that??  i allredy changed everything else over to my current make thats all i have left to do anyone who can help me would be apreciated
[09:20] <Ignite_> does anyone know of an updated package for libxine that is fixed against the flac bug?
[09:21] <GIGANTOR> thoreauputic:  it's more than just a few typed commands then?
[09:21] <gnomefreak> GIGANTOR: its a full desktop environment
[09:21] <gabriel1> I LOVE YOU TIMI IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:21] <thoreauputic> GIGANTOR: oh yes
[09:21] <gnomefreak> GIGANTOR: everything you see you have to compile ;)
[09:21] <gatekeeper> GIGANTOR, on gentoo people say that it takes hours
[09:21] <locoblade2> ok sonething happened there
[09:21] <GIGANTOR> this other guy bugged out on me because i got errors while trying to compile due to incompatible compilers, etc
[09:21] <thoreauputic> xylus: run sudo sensors-detect
[09:21] <GIGANTOR> but, i have that sorted now
[09:22] <Ignite_> it does take hours to compile
[09:22] <GIGANTOR> i just don't remember the commands he was putting in to compile
[09:22] <xylus> ok ill try tho
[09:22] <Ignite_> ugh, no fix for libxine?
[09:22] <locoblade2> the libxine extracodecs install says it has no installation candidate
[09:22] <gabriel1> hey whers timi?
[09:22] <Ignite_> libxine-extracodecs
[09:22] <GIGANTOR> i've got about 4 hours to kill  ;P
[09:22] <gnomefreak> locoblade2: enable multiverse repo
[09:22] <GIGANTOR> if i could just get started on it
[09:22] <xylus> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[09:22] <locoblade2> it's not available, but is referred to by another package
[09:23] <thoreauputic> GIGANTOR: compling KDE to change some font colours is the most absurd idea I've heard for a long time ;)
[09:23] <locoblade2> ok
[09:23] <gnomefreak> GIGANTOR: try longer
[09:23] <GIGANTOR> LOL
[09:23] <locoblade2> thats probably my problem then
[09:23] <GIGANTOR> i live on the edge, what can i say
[09:23] <xylus> should i type that address in my address bar? No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[09:24] <gatekeeper> locoblade, you need to enable the correct repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:24] <gabriel1> hey whers timi?
[09:24] <GIGANTOR> well, alternatively, can anyone suggest a program that takes the taskbar's place, that does allow font color changes?
[09:24] <thoreauputic> xylus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[09:25] <noxs> how to run .jnlp files?
[09:25] <noxs> sun java re 1.5 is installed already
[09:25] <locoblade2> just out of interest whats a good samba browser?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> what on earth is a .jnlp file ?
[09:25] <Mez> locoblade2, konqueror will browse samba quite well
[09:25] <locoblade2> oh cool
[09:25] <gnomefreak> im gonna assume a photo/java
[09:26] <locoblade2> do i have to set up samba through the command line
[09:26] <gnomefreak> or video,java
[09:26] <Mez> thoreauputic, something to do with java server
[09:26] <Mez> locoblade2, to serve yes - to browse, no
[09:26] <thoreauputic> Mez: hmm - OK thanks :)
[09:26] <locoblade2> i mean as a samba client
[09:27] <locoblade2> well i want to browse a windows network
[09:27] <Mez> locoblade2, i believe mine worked straight out of the box
[09:28] <locoblade2> ok
[09:28] <locoblade2> but if i want to set up workgroups etc
[09:28] <Mez> locoblade2, alt+f2 -> remote: -> samba
[09:28] <locoblade2> where do i di that?
[09:28] <Mez> and it should then let you browse any workgroup on the network
[09:29] <locoblade2> alt f2 gets me a run command box
[09:30] <Mez> locoblade2, yeah - in there type (without the quotes) "remote:"
[09:30] <locoblade2> could not run the specific command
[09:30] <pete____> where is the reposities file located cant remember
[09:30] <pete____> !repos
[09:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:31] <thoreauputic> pete____:  /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[09:31] <pete____> thoreauputic: thanks
[09:31] <locoblade2> thats what i have theor
[09:31] <Lord_Athur> what's the name of the kde menu? does it have a special name?=
[09:31] <scabootssca> has anyone gotten yahoo music videos to work in kubuntu?
[09:31] <locoblade2> mez any idea why remote: doesnt work?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> locoblade: in konqueror try   remote:/
[09:32] <thoreauputic> note the slash
[09:32] <locoblade2> ok
[09:32] <locoblade2> ok remote with the slash works in the command box
[09:33] <thoreauputic> right
[09:33] <thoreauputic> or in konq ( same thing really)
[09:33] <locoblade2> yeah
[09:33] <locoblade2> i have 4 icons
[09:34] <locoblade2> bluetooth network services, samba shares and add a network folder
[09:34] <pete____> whats tha firewall front end is it called firestarterR?
[09:34] <pete____> firestarter
[09:34] <pete____> ?
[09:34] <Mez> Samba shares would be the one you're looking for locoblade2
[09:34] <thoreauputic> pete____: yes, or the KDE one is guarddog
[09:34] <locoblade2> i tought i tried that already
[09:34] <locoblade2> ill have another look
[09:35] <locoblade2> cool it works
[09:35] <locoblade2> now if i want to create a shortcut to that on the desktop how do i do that?
[09:36] <acojlo> anyone who have expertise in S3 (to ram)?
[09:36] <locoblade2> well i suppose i could type smb:/ into the alt f2 thing
[09:37] <Mez> locoblade2, just drag and drop :P
[09:37] <locoblade2> that makes me feel dumb for not trying that
[09:39] <Mez> lol locoblade2, no need to feel dumb :P we all have bad days
[09:40] <Ace2006> Anyone know a good font site with fonts i can use in kubuntu?
[09:41] <locoblade2> im thrilled though im making great progress here
[09:41] <acojlo> your windows dir :)
[09:42] <locoblade2> so is there a way i can change the icon of that link ive created?
[09:43] <Agios> properties
[09:43] <locoblade2> yep
[09:43] <locoblade2> i had a look but couldnt see
[09:43] <locoblade2> ohh
[09:43] <Agios> right click the icon, select properties
[09:43] <locoblade2> just click the icon
[09:44] <locoblade2> i got it
[09:44] <Agios> click the icon there, select any icon you want
[09:44] <locoblade2> like a mac
[09:45] <bigfoot1> the login screen is currently set to DVORAK layout. How can i make it QWERY keyboard layout?
[09:46] <locoblade2> oh i have another question
[09:46] <locoblade2> wireless networks
[09:46] <locoblade2> whats a broadcast address
[09:46] <locoblade2> first time ive ever been asked for one is kubuntu
[09:46] <Rivelino> Hi THC
[09:46] <KaiHanari> locoblade2, the same thing as a broadcast address in a wired network
[09:47] <locoblade2> it relates to the subnet mask IIRC
[09:47] <KaiHanari> urd
[09:47] <KaiHanari> *yes
[09:47] <KaiHanari> usually 255.255.255.0   but it can vary
[09:48] <locoblade2> thats my subnet mask
[09:48] <gretch68> hi everyone
[09:48] <locoblade2> is the broadcast one the same?
[09:48] <locoblade2> suppose there's no harm in trying
[09:48] <KaiHanari> oh wait
[09:48] <KaiHanari> just a sec
[09:48] <rr72> bcast is usually whateber.255
[09:48] <TheHighChild> hey Rivelino
[09:48] <KaiHanari> yea
[09:48] <locoblade2> it's the complement of that
[09:48] <aliasfred> locoblade2: it is the address which allows you to address all the hosts on a network
[09:48] <uniq> locoblade2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_address
[09:49] <rr72> like 192.168.155
[09:49] <KaiHanari> locoblade2, what rr72 said, its your ip address except the last number is 255
[09:49] <rr72> like 192.168.0.255
[09:49] <locoblade2> yeah i had a look at that
[09:49] <uniq> kaihanari: that is not always the case.
[09:49] <KaiHanari> sorry, stuffing my face, not in the right mindset :P
[09:49] <aliasfred> locoblade2: what is the address/prefix of your network ?
[09:49] <locoblade2> ok so my ip address is 192.168.1.x
[09:49] <locoblade2> my broadcast address is 192.168.1.255
[09:49] <KaiHanari> uniq, but it is theirs, they said their subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
[09:49] <KaiHanari> locoblade2, yes
[09:50] <locoblade2> cool
[09:50] <uniq> kaihanari: yes. if given the example above, you're right.
[09:50] <rr72> locoblade2~ what are u trying to do?
[09:50] <locoblade2> set up this computer on wireless
[09:50] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know anything about yahoo and voice for linux and has tried it?
[09:50] <locoblade2> im probably driving you guys nuts but believe me this is a great help
[09:51] <locoblade2> im very greateful
[09:52] <rr72> locoblade2~ i just rezzed my computer from a signal 11 error
[09:52] <slow-motion> bbl
[09:52] <rr72> simple export cmd saved me
[09:52] <locoblade2> o.O
[09:53] <KaiHanari> locoblade2, if anything it refreshes peoples memories :P like mine... and i deal  with the fancier broadcast addresses everyday :/
[09:53] <rr72> i installed new driver for nvidia and gcc versions were conflicting
[09:53] <locoblade2> well if it helps then im glad lol
[09:53] <mattttttt> what type of file system should i make the partition for kubuntu?
[09:53] <locoblade2> i can keep going lol
[09:53] <exobuzz> mattttttt: ext3 ?
[09:54] <acojlo> do I need firewall software on kubuntu?
[09:54] <aliasfred> mattttttt: yep ext3 is a good choise
[09:54] <mattttttt> thanks
[09:54] <gatekeeper> acojlo, you have it by default iptables
[09:55] <locoblade2> ok im getting round to this xine extracodecs thing
[09:55] <locoblade2> i need to "unlock" multiuniverse is it?
[09:55] <acojlo> well, if I recompile kernel? Iptables are part of kernel?
[09:55] <locoblade2> all there is in sources.list is universe and backports
[09:55] <exobuzz> acojlo: yes.
[09:56] <locoblade2> as far as I can see
[09:56] <exobuzz> locoblade2: just add multiverse after universe
[09:56] <locoblade2> ok
[09:56] <acojlo> exobuzz, thanks. So, firewalls are only a option for servers
[09:56] <mattttttt> i need to make two partitions? one root and one swap?
[09:56] <locoblade2> same 2 lines with multiverse where universe was?
[09:56] <acojlo> and make those partions of primary type
[09:57] <exobuzz> acojlo: no.. you can easily setup a firewall with iptables.. a few simple rules to disallow incoming connectionds for example
[09:57] <exobuzz> acojlo: if have a script in /network/interfaces/if-preup.d/ which sets up a few iptables rules
[09:58] <exobuzz> locoblade2: same line.. after universe add " multiverse"
[09:58] <gabriel1> timi is he here?
[09:58] <uniq> acojlo: i recommend taking a look at a application named 'guarddog'. You can download it from the repositories with the Adept package manager.
[09:58] <locoblade2> ok
[09:58] <exobuzz> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:58] <exobuzz> for example
[09:58] <exobuzz> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[09:58] <locoblade2> and whats the command I need to type in again to update the packages or whatever it was
[09:58] <uniq> acojlo: guarddog is a grapical application to make iptables firewall rules.
[09:58] <exobuzz> is a better example.. apt-get update
[09:58] <exobuzz> or use aptitude/dselect
[09:58] <locoblade2> ok
[09:59] <exobuzz> i have a question of my own. but i bet i dont get an answer :)
[09:59] <h3sp4wn> I suppose for a firewall it wouldnt be that hard to install one of the firewall distributions under usermode linux and use taps to force all the traffic through it
[10:00] <acojlo> ok
[10:00] <exobuzz> As ubuntu uses evms, why does the installer not utilise evms to setup/manage volumes ? Also: I boot from a raid-1 array. I set it up from the installer, but changed grub to boot from /dev/evms/md/md0 instead of /dev/md0. that worked so I guess evms is in the initrd. however after switching to evms (and changing the fstab line to evms too), i get an error on booting (minor script syntax error - tells me some script is missing a semi-colo
[10:00] <exobuzz> d it seems to be in the initrd stage). any comments ?
[10:01] <exobuzz> is kubuntu supposed to have initrd support for evms. is it tested. does anyone else use it / boot from an evms volume ?
[10:02] <hoi> I login as User: hoi. but I recieve a window.popup everytime I login." kdesu -u test -- katapult -session 10d9d39668000112680660600000081280032_1134662244_732871". It asks me for a password
[10:02] <thoreauputic> don't know anything about evms but ubuntu kernels use initramfs IIRC
[10:02] <Ace2006> Anyone know the effect of adding ~260 fonts to KDE?
[10:02] <uniq> exobuzz: why do you use /dev/evms/md/md0 instead of /dev/md0 ?
[10:02] <exobuzz> thoreauputic: yup. and they seem to have support for evms in them. although i get some small script bug when booting from evms volume
[10:02] <rr72> Ace2006~ u will have 206 more fonts to chose from?
[10:03] <exobuzz> uniq: so I can manage the volume better from evms and so evms takes care of things ?
[10:03] <acojlo> and what's that initrd story - I can boot without initrd (ramfs)
[10:03] <thoreauputic> exobuzz: I would try asking on the ubuntu-users list - there will be more people there who know about evms
[10:03] <exobuzz> thoreauputic: ok :)
[10:03] <Ace2006> rr72: How much of a slow down will there be?
[10:03] <uniq> exobuzz: does it matter for grub?
[10:03] <rr72> idk, i was making a funny
[10:03] <exobuzz> it just seems strange to me that ubuntu uses evms, yet the installer does not use it ?!?
[10:04] <exobuzz> uniq: it works either way. if you boot from evms, then evms takes control. for example i would get a message from evms about a disk missing if i removed one from array.
[10:04] <acojlo> what are the benefits of efi lilo?
[10:04] <Ace2006> Ok make that ~1000 there is about 755 my System folder and i added ~260 to the personal section
[10:05] <exobuzz> acojlo: booting from a machine which has efi rather than a bios :-)
[10:05] <Hikaru79> Hello, everyone :)
[10:05] <Hikaru79> Are the apt repositories hella slow for anyone else today?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79: yes
[10:05] <uniq> exobuzz: is the change from /dev/md0 to /dev/evms/md/md0 needed to make that work?
[10:05] <Hikaru79> I'm getting ~40 kbps where usually I would get about 400.
[10:05] <exobuzz> acojlo: for example an intel mac mini... (without using the boot camp legacy bios emulation)
[10:05] <Hikaru79> Oh, okay. So there's nothing wrong with the new install.
[10:05] <Hikaru79> Thanks, thoreauputic =)
[10:05] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79: there was a blackout a few days ago - I think they are doing some maintenance
[10:06] <Hikaru79> Ah, I see.
[10:06] <Hikaru79> So a few days ago, there were no apt repositories at all?
[10:06] <exobuzz> uniq: well. if i dont use it as evms volume, the md driver handles it, and I couldnt manage it from within evms properly (i think).. (my memory)] 
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79: for a while
[10:06] <Hikaru79> Whew, glad I missed that ^ ^;
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79: although I guess mirrors were still OK
[10:07] <exobuzz> uniq: although to be honest, i just need to understyand the differences and interactions between using it as evms or not. there is little documentation on this. I dont like not understanding how things work :-)
[10:07] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79:  security.ubuntu.com was giving me only 18 Kb/sec a while ago ( a few hours)
[10:07] <pichi> hello
[10:07] <Hikaru79> Well, thanks for putting my mind at ease, thoreau :)
[10:07] <Hikaru79> Time to reboot into the new kernel.
[10:07] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79: no worries :)
[10:07] <Ace2006> Anyone know of a font manager which will show them all and allow me to +fav some?
[10:08] <uniq> exobuzz: as they have the same major & minor numbers i would guess it doesn't matter.
[10:08] <exobuzz> uniq: i guess :-)
[10:08] <exobuzz> the only noticable difference, is the warnings from evms on disk removal. with the md driver, you would have to tell it to mail you or something specifically i guess
[10:09] <acojlo> by default, if I run no server, just clients like Konversation, web browser etc. ... is Kubuntu safe?
[10:09] <exobuzz> i think i still need to use mdadm to email me if a disk is no longer in the array though. im not sure evms will do that.
[10:09] <uniq> acojlo: yes.
[10:09] <exobuzz> although smartmontools will email me if a disk fails. so i guess i can use that
[10:09] <uniq> acojlo: if you install security updates regularily.
[10:11] <acojlo> ok - this topic - security - was a little bit confusing for me - because I read you have iptables, but some sites sugested to install firewall not mentioning iptables. It is just confusing if you enter the jungle of linux :)
[10:11] <acojlo> it's jungle because I'm new
[10:12] <Tommy2k4`> my / partition is too small again -__-
[10:12] <Tommy2k4`> i resized it yesterday and im sure i made it bigger than what it is =/
[10:12] <acojlo> :)
[10:14] <xylus> ok i installed lm sensors but it says i should have i2c installed
[10:14] <xylus> i follow the tut exactley
[10:14] <xylus> but im suck on the last part for updateing the sensors
[10:14] <uniq> acojlo: the thing is, the firewall feature is included in kubuntu. it's named iptables. However you don't have any rules by default. So, to use it for anything usefull you'll have to make firewall rules. What people often refer to as 'install a firewall' is actually 'make some rules', or 'install a helper program to make firewall rules'.
[10:14] <trappist> acojlo: the kernel filters packets, and the section of kernel code that does that is called netfilter.  iptables is a userspace program that just sends rules to the kernel's netfilter code.  things like guarddog are frontends to iptables that make it easier to configure a firewall.
[10:15] <xylus> i figure its because i dont have i2c
[10:16] <acojlo> finaly - trappist and uniq - you are the true wisdom in linux country :)
[10:18] <neom> Is there a kubuntu liveCD that will work on my MacBook?
[10:20] <acojlo> but kernel config says fot net filter - you don't need it if you run a normal host
[10:20] <timi_> hello
[10:20] <byakguan> anyone there
[10:21] <byakguan> helllo
[10:21] <byakguan> help someone reply
[10:21] <exobuzz> reply to what ?
[10:21] <exobuzz> you didnt ask anything
[10:21] <byakguan> aright
[10:21] <acojlo> :)
[10:22] <byakguan> well it wasnt shwoing any convo at all
[10:22] <byakguan> and this thing is like never evr dead os i figured it was messed up
[10:22] <exobuzz> because in the 5 seconds you gave it, noone wrote anything
[10:22] <exobuzz> :-)
[10:22] <timi_> no ive been on 4 or five times
[10:22] <timi_> and it wasnt working
[10:22] <exobuzz> maybe you are right.a ctually i can't see what you are writing..
[10:22] <exobuzz> hello ? :-)
[10:23] <timi_>  haha
[10:23] <timi_> anbody get there widgets to load correctly w/o superkaramab thing poppin up
[10:24] <kalinda> Hello, all.. I need Samba help >_<
[10:26] <mattttttt> how do i choose which partition i want to  boot from?
[10:27] <kalinda> in your fstab, probably
[10:27] <kalinda> that is, Linux automatically boots from the / partition
[10:27] <mattttttt> i have XP in one partition, then i have kubuntu in another
[10:28] <mattttttt> in theory....
[10:28] <mattttttt> >_<
[10:28] <exobuzz> then you need a bootloader.. you can use grub on the mbr to boot both os's. or install lilo/grub on the linux partition, and use a mbr boot manager to choose
[10:28] <exobuzz> lilo on the mbr can also boot both os's
[10:29] <mattttttt> i have no clue what that means...
[10:29] <mattttttt> google time
[10:29] <edward_f> are multipart-rars automatically joined/extracted by selecting them and clicking 'extract here'?
[10:29] <exobuzz> edward_f: with what software ? with ark ?
[10:29] <exobuzz> yes
[10:29] <edward_f> ark and unrar
[10:30] <exobuzz> yes
[10:30] <xylus> can anyone tell me what htis means Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source
[10:30] <xylus> where do i find the im-sensors source at
[10:30] <heinkel_111_> mattttttt: if i recall correctly, you define which partition shall be bootable and which shall have prioprity at install time, when you partitions the harddisk
[10:30] <neom> Am I to presume there is no kubuntu liveCD that will work on my MacBook?
[10:30] <edward_f> exobuzz: thx
[10:30] <exobuzz> neom: no.. there is..
[10:30] <exobuzz> neom: search on google for mactel linux
[10:30] <xylus> again can anyone tell me where the lm sensors source is?
[10:30] <neom> tnx!
[10:31] <alkalinex> composition manager crashed twice within a minute?
[10:31] <xylus> ich this program is the biggest hastle in the world to install
[10:31] <exobuzz> oh wait.. macbook is intel or ppc ?
[10:31] <xylus> ive done every step and it still dosent work or make sence
[10:32] <alkalinex> xylus, im feeling the same way about the whole of kubuntu
[10:32] <exobuzz> mactel is for intel. i dont know about ppc live cd..
[10:32] <kameronk> the macbook is intel, powerbook is powerpc
[10:32] <exobuzz> ok
[10:32] <xylus> lol alk kubuntu isent so bad
[10:32] <exobuzz> my mac mini ppc runs debian.. :)
[10:32] <xylus> some of it is bleh
[10:32] <xylus> but for the most part once u get the hang of apt
[10:32] <kameronk> i dont think that any version of linux easily runs on the intel macs
[10:32] <exobuzz> and my mac mini intel runs debian. sorry :)
[10:32] <xylus> you got it coverd
[10:32] <timi_> anbody know to change their bootpslash
[10:33] <xylus> yeah timi
[10:33] <xylus> go to run and type in kconfig
[10:33] <xylus> ;)
[10:33] <alkalinex> apt-get install firefox... then ff crashes.. FUN!
[10:33] <xylus> alk
[10:33] <xylus> you need to type apt-get install mozilla i think
[10:33] <xylus> or just try add remove programs
[10:33] <xylus> and find it in their
[10:33] <timi_> kconfig doesnt exists
[10:33] <exobuzz> Kameronk. there are some kernel patches to make it work,. with simple framebuffer. not tried ati. think you need to run in bootcamp mode for ati drivers. but then there are other issues
[10:33] <xylus> hold on timi jsut a sec
[10:33] <exobuzz> like machine not booting without monitor connected (on my intel mac mini).
[10:33] <xylus> sry its run kcontroll
[10:33] <kameronk> o ok, thank you exobuzz
[10:34] <darryl> hello
[10:34] <xylus> youll find splash editor in their ;)
[10:34] <xylus> can anyone help me install my lm sensors ive done every step
[10:34] <xylus> in the tut
[10:34] <exobuzz> kameronk: if you install bootcamp you can boot the standard i386 kubuntu live cd
[10:34] <xylus> and i still cant figure this out
[10:34] <timi_> yeah xylus thats splash not bootsplash
[10:34] <kameronk> really? i had read somewhere that it didn't work...
[10:34] <xylus> oh u wana change the boot splash no clue :(
[10:34] <exobuzz> kameronk: that might be easier. otherwise you have to boot from efi to a hfs+ partition. you would need to "bless" the bootloader also. its quite a pain.. the bootcamp method is a bit easier
[10:35] <kameronk> o ok
[10:35] <timi_> hey how can i get it to not remember the desktop
[10:35] <timi_> so when i log in its just blank
[10:35] <BluesKaj> !easyubuntu
[10:35] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:35] <exobuzz> kameronk: i got it working im sure.. only problem i wanted my machine as a server, and it wouldnt boot without monitor in bootcamp mode. in the end i went for an efi boot. more complicated but works without monitor.. guess the bootcamp bios emu code feezes waiting for monitor ddc info ?
[10:35] <Lunar_Raven> !azureus
[10:35] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[10:36] <kameronk> exobuzz: is there support in the kernel for the camera and wifi/bluetooth?
[10:36] <timi_> who was that easy ubuto towards
[10:36] <exobuzz> kameronk: join the mactel mailinglist. best place for answers about that..
[10:36] <kameronk> thank you
[10:36] <kameronk> what is the link?
[10:36] <exobuzz> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users
[10:36] <kameronk>  thanks
[10:37] <exobuzz> info on the wiki too http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[10:37] <timi_> hey anyone know how i cant get kubunut to not remember session and just log off
[10:37] <Graytooth> I just received some Live CDs. Has anyone had any problems using them?
[10:37] <timi_> graytooth, no
[10:37] <exobuzz> Graytooth: they worked fine when i used them.. although i used them as coasters
[10:37] <exobuzz> :-)
[10:37] <timi_> me says yes
[10:37] <timi_> me/ says
[10:38] <Graytooth> I see.
[10:38] <Graytooth> Is there any way of using the Live CD just to install Dapper? Maybe I don't have enough memory.
[10:38] <exobuzz> you can install from the livecd sure. in fact its maybe the easiest way for new users ?
[10:39] <exobuzz> although i prefer the alternative install cd..
[10:39] <exobuzz> how much memory do you have. and what do you want to run ?
[10:39] <Graytooth> But I cannot even get anything to work in the live cd. I have over 275 MBs. I know that much. My laptop is only two years old.
[10:40] <timi_> hrrm
[10:40] <timi_> install in safe graphicall mode
[10:40] <aliasfred> it smells like boot option to set :)
[10:40] <alkalinex> i downloaded the dapper DVD.. the installer uses the livecd shit
[10:40] <timi_> you probably have have a noon standard resolution and it hangs at k
[10:40] <timi_> Graytooth try  intsall in safe graphical mode
[10:40] <Graytooth> I'm running the livecd right now on my Dell Inspiron 5100. It is like watching molasses drip out of a flask.
[10:41] <Graytooth> I'll try that.
[10:41] <timi_> graytooth im using dell e1505 i had troubles until i tried safe graphics mode
[10:42] <alkalinex> btw, is it normal for an installation to take <5 mins?
[10:42] <timi_> no
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu also comes up in lo res on first login, 640x480 or some such silly thing , who dreamed that up anyway?
[10:42] <timi_> it doest always do that blues
[10:42] <alkalinex> :\
[10:42] <timi_> my first lgoin was 1025x768
[10:43] <admiral_proFTW> what is the umask command for all users?
[10:43] <timi_> any one have kbootsplash
[10:43] <jackle> what is the root password for the 6.06 kubuntu live cd/install disc?
[10:43] <Blaidd> I was wondering if someone might have a second to answer a question or two of mine.  I'm looking for the bttv config file in breezey, but haven't been able to find it
[10:43] <BluesKaj> I have an old monitor but it's prolly my run of the ati video that causes it
[10:43] <admiral_proFTW> I'm editing an fstab and I know think I have to write umask=0255 but u;m not sure
[10:44] <admiral_proFTW> jackle there isnt one
[10:44] <alkalinex> !eyecandy
[10:44] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:44] <admiral_proFTW> !umask
[10:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about umask - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:44] <admiral_proFTW> !fstab
[10:44] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[10:46] <alkalinex> ok, so i apt-get install firefox... why does it crash?
[10:46] <draik> alkalinex, it's 'apt-get install mozilla-firefox'
[10:46] <alkalinex> oh ok
[10:47] <alkalinex> and what about this error i get "Composition manager has crashed twice within a minute"
[10:47] <alkalinex> ?
[10:48] <Tommy2k4`> can i safely uninstall kmail
[10:49] <acojlo_> is it normal for X to take 10-15 seconds to show KDM login?
[10:49] <Blaidd> can anyone point me towards the bttv config file?
[10:50] <Stardog> Why cant I view(or preview) .jpg images in Konqueror or standard imageviewer program for kubuntu?
[10:50] <iradio> enterprise volume management system is crashing on a glibc error on bootup. How can I fix?
[10:50] <acojlo_> someone is thinking right now :)
[10:50] <z00m> whats the best version to stay with kubuntu amd64 or the i386 version ?\
[10:51] <z00m> is the amd64 more secure ?
[10:51] <unstablesob> anyone know why i would suddenly be getting "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!" when trying to install subversion?
[10:52] <Stardog> Why cant I view(or preview) .jpg images in Konqueror or standard imageviewer program for kubuntu?
[10:53] <aliasfred> why life is so cruel
[10:53] <timi_> you anyone have a program that allows them to change their bootsplashes
[10:53] <timi_> ive heard of kbootsplahs but i tried to compile it and there wasnt a "proper c compiler"
[10:53] <timi_> or something
[10:54] <Stardog> i cant view .jpg files and some .png files... what's wrong?
[10:56] <Stardog> draik: yes... i cant even preview them in Konqueror....
[10:56] <Cntryboy> I have a dir on the desktop that won't let me delete, I'm typing sudo rm (dir) and it gives a error can't remove : is a dir
[10:57] <Frederick> folks my kde bar just dissapeared what can I do to recover it?
[10:57] <secleinteer> timi_: you can change this in system settings
[10:57] <teknoprep> right click the file... open with .. your favorite viewer
[10:57] <draik> Cntryboy, the command is 'sudo rm -r (dir)'
[10:57] <JesperS> hey guys
[10:58] <draik> Stardog, What error do you get if you try to open it through an application, rather than clicking on the picture file?
[10:58] <JesperS> I would appreciate some help with Cedega, more specifically World of Warcraft installation
[10:59] <Hawkwind> JesperS: Why not ask in #Cedega or #WineHQ where the experts on that stuff are
[10:59] <draik> Cntryboy, did that work for you?
[11:00] <Stardog> draik: well... i think I've found out some information.... when i open them, its just blank.... no errorrmsg... but when i look at the properties, every picture i cant open is at 0 bytes....
[11:03] <noxs> does someone know a game like counterstrike for linux?
[11:04] <Stardog> noxs: unreal turnament :p
[11:04] <noxs> free?
[11:04] <Cntryboy> ok back
[11:04] <draik> noxs, no, it's not free
[11:04] <Stardog> noxs: demo yes
[11:04] <Cntryboy> draik: did what work
[11:04] <timi_> does anyone know how i can get aero to read my yahoo webmail account
[11:04] <noxs> where to get?
[11:04] <draik> Cntryboy, the command is 'sudo rm -r (dir)'
[11:05] <Frederick> folks my kde menubar dissapeared any ideas?
[11:05] <draik> Cntryboy, for removing the directory
[11:05] <BluesKaj> wann a play games ...get an xbox !
[11:05] <Cntryboy> let me try
[11:05] <Cntryboy> what does -r mean
[11:05] <Cntryboy> so I can remember for later uses
[11:05] <Stardog> noxs: just search for their homepage in google, and you'll find the demo, with linuxinstall
[11:05] <Cntryboy> and yes it works
[11:05] <Cntryboy> thx :)
[11:05] <BlankB> Cntryboy: -r = recursive
[11:05] <Stardog> noxs: i think Quake also works on linux
[11:05] <Cntryboy> whats recursive mean lol
[11:09] <Frederick> folks anyoneelse having problems with kde menubar?
[11:09] <Frederick> mmyne refuses to show up
[11:09] <Blissex> a guy called <Frederick> apparently does :-)
[11:10] <|lostbyte|> Frederick, At all ?
[11:10] <Blissex> Frederick: it has happened to me some time ago, it usually happens on incomplete updates when things get messed up.
[11:10] <Stardog> is Krita the same as Gimp ?
[11:10] <acojlo_> is there something like #acpi channel ? or powersuspending ?
[11:10] <timi_> !krita
[11:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about krita - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:11] <Frederick> Blissex: when I didn't update sincesometime so it shouldn't happen
[11:11] <Frederick> how can I fix it?
[11:11] <Blissex> Frederick: however, just to try things, run 'kwrapper kicker' and check what happens
[11:11] <Blissex> acojlo_: 'krita' is good, but not as powerful as Gimp.
[11:11] <Blissex> acojlo_: try #KDE
[11:11] <Blissex> acojlo_: oooops sorry
[11:11] <acojlo_> ok :)
[11:11] <Frederick> it reports to be already running
[11:11] <Blissex> acojlo_: there is probably a #suspend channel somewhere
[11:12] <Blissex> acojlo_: there is a searchable list of channels... wait for the URL
[11:12] <acojlo> ok
[11:12] <|lostbyte|> Frederick, or do what i do.... rm .kde/share/apps/kicker/ -rfv
[11:12] <Frederick> Blissex: how can I run the updates?
[11:12] <|lostbyte|> Frederick, and the run kicker..
[11:12] <|lostbyte|> then*
[11:13] <Blissex> acojlo: check this for the section on how to find a channel: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[11:13] <Blissex> |lostbyte|: a bit extreme, but probably works. however VERY IMPORTANT note: always put the options BEFORE the arguments to which they apply.
[11:14] <|lostbyte|> Blissex, resone ?
[11:14] <Blissex> |lostbyte|: most commands scan the argument list left to right.
[11:14] <Frederick> Hotwire: it pops and dissapear
[11:14] <acojlo> personal support bitch :)))))))))))))))
[11:15] <acojlo> thanks blissex
[11:15] <|lostbyte|> Blissex, i simply gotten used to the ones that don'nt. anyways tx for the note. i'd keep it
[11:15] <secleinteer> acojlo: no need for profanity here
[11:15] <acojlo> no, it's quote from url provided by blissex
[11:15] <Blissex> |lostbyte|: anyhow really really assume that the scan is left to right.
[11:15] <Hotwire> Frederick, i assume you missed tabbed my name
[11:15] <secleinteer> censor it or something
[11:16] <secleinteer> just try and stay away from that
[11:16] <Frederick> Hotwire: sorry
[11:16] <acojlo> quote : "Help is provided by the channel, not by anybody in particular. Don't assume anybody is there to be your personal support bitch."
[11:16] <acojlo> ok ok. I read it now
[11:16] <Hotwire> Frederick, not worry, i was just a little confused for a second :)
[11:17] <exobuzz> is bitch offensive? I've been calling my gf that for years. damn!
[11:17] <exobuzz> :)
[11:17] <acojlo> :))
[11:17] <secleinteer> could you just stop saying it on the public channel?
[11:18] <exobuzz> I only wrote it. but ok :-)
[11:18] <secleinteer> i'm trying to tell you b4 a mod kickbans you for it
[11:18] <|lostbyte|> Blissex, weird.. though. if i want to rmove a file that is names "rfv".
[11:18] <|lostbyte|> named*
[11:19] <Frederick> oki I'm updating all apps
[11:19] <Frederick> still in despair
[11:19] <xavi> wolas a tod@s
[11:19] <exobuzz> what ever you do, don't mention the war..
[11:19] <BluesKaj> exobuzz, the chat rules here tend to be a bit straight laced
[11:20] <exobuzz> ill be good
[11:20] <BluesKaj> i was chastized using the F word in frustration a while back :)
[11:20] <exobuzz> yeh. fedora is a nasty word!
[11:20] <secleinteer> :-)
[11:21] <Frederick> dammm no ideas for me?
[11:21] <exobuzz> Frederick: i missed your problem.. what was it ?
[11:21] <exobuzz> Frederick: i have a scrollback buffer, but that would require using the mouse, and my eyes. enither of which work very well..
[11:21] <Frederick> exobuzz: kde menu bar dissapeared without apparent reason
[11:22] <exobuzz> the kicker at the bottom of the screen (normally) ?
[11:22] <Frederick> yes
[11:22] <exobuzz> and when you restart kde ?
[11:22] <Frederick> Ive killed and called it again
[11:22] <Frederick> removed its files
[11:22] <Frederick> and run it again
[11:22] <exobuzz> you removed its files ?
[11:22] <Frederick> exobuzz: Ive tried it too
[11:22] <Frederick> exobuzz: it's config files from my profile
[11:23] <exobuzz> and it doesnt appear when you statr kde ?
[11:23] <exobuzz> start
[11:23] <Frederick> it appeares and then disappear
[11:23] <exobuzz> hmm
[11:23] <Frederick> like if it where minimized to out of screen
[11:23] <exobuzz> oh
[11:24] <exobuzz> you deleted
[11:24] <exobuzz> .kde/share/config/kickerrc
[11:24] <exobuzz> .kde/share/apps/kicker
[11:24] <exobuzz> ?
[11:24] <exobuzz> (from your home dir)
[11:25] <BluesKaj> is the kicker logo still in the panel, Frederick?
[11:25] <Frederick> nope
[11:27] <BluesKaj> what's in the corner where the K-menu should be ?
[11:27] <Frederick> nothing the whole bar dissapeared
[11:27] <unstablesob_> ok, I'm running kubuntu on an ibook and KDE is frozen. My mouse works but nothing else. How do I kill X on a ibook keyboard?
[11:28] <exobuzz> is kicker running (ps uax | grep "kicker") ?
[11:28] <Frederick> unstablesob_: ctrl + bacxkspace
[11:28] <unstablesob_> I can't get to a ocmmand line
[11:29] <Frederick> 1000      4850  0.6  5.4  31852 14076 pts/2    S    18:14   0:05 kicker
[11:29] <unstablesob_> Frederick: my backspace is labeled "delete", so I'm unsure if that counts, but I tried Ctrl+Delete, Command+Delete, Fn+Ctrl+Delete, and Fn+Command+Delete, any other suggestions?
[11:29] <exobuzz> and you are sure kicker is not just minimised (small rectangle at corner of screen with arrow) ?
[11:30] <Frederick> exobuzz: yep i'm ive checked it also changed screen resolution to be 100% sure
[11:31] <BluesKaj> right click in the desktop ,click on the run cmd an type panel in the dialogbox and the panel option should come upoptions
[11:31] <Frederick> BluesKaj: ?
[11:32] <Frederick> it pps and fades
[11:32] <Frederick> pops
[11:32] <BluesKaj> bummer
[11:32] <Frederick> ?
[11:32] <Frederick> how do I open it in verbose mode
[11:32] <Frederick> ?
[11:33] <intelikey> >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.
[11:33] <intelikey> >>
[11:33] <intelikey> >> You must install ncurses-devel in order
[11:34] <intelikey> E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel
[11:36] <intelikey> Q, can the default *buntu dapper installation build the kernel source ?
[11:36] <intelikey> on special gcc version required ?
[11:36] <intelikey> glibc  ???
[11:37] <xylus> does anyone know of a good fserv irc cliant for linux ??
[11:38] <xylus> i would verrymuch like someone to refer me to a good script and cliant plz
[11:38] <intelikey> fserv ?
[11:38] <xylus> yeah file hosting
[11:38] <xylus> fservs as in shareing via irc
[11:39] <Frederick> oki so what can I do?
[11:39] <xylus> alittle msg pops up displaying my fserv information and people can type it in and download my stuff
[11:39] <xylus> noone knows of a good fserv irc script for linux?
[11:40] <intelikey> idk   google.com/linux  search is supposed to search for linux related pages   and sourceforge.net search might be more productive.
[11:40] <xylus> allrighty
[11:40] <Frederick> how do I open that big menu kde has?
[11:40] <Frederick> the one with all system options
[11:41] <trappist> kcontrol?
[11:41] <intelikey> kcontrol ?
[11:41] <intelikey> i said it first,  i'm just lagging....
[11:41] <intelikey> :)
[11:42] <trappist> suuuuure
 kcontrol ?
[11:42] <Frederick> well I gtg I wil lgrok it later
 kcontrol?
 i said it first,  i'm just lagging....
[11:42] <Frederick> thanks folks
[11:42] <gatekeeper> intelikey: there are howto's to build kernels in the ubuntu forums
[11:43] <intelikey> gatekeeper but are any special gcc or glibc versions needed ?
[11:44] <gatekeeper> intelikey: never tried it sorry I wouldn't know
[11:44] <intelikey> forums are unreachable atm  for me.   no ssl support.
[11:44] <timi> damn
[11:44] <intelikey> k thanks for the input just the same.
[11:45] <mark___> ok im trying to install some stuff using apt-get
[11:45] <mark___> and i get an error message dpkg was interrupted
[11:45] <timi> im trying to compile something but i have no gcc, no cc, cl
[11:45] <intelikey> timi build-essential
[11:45] <timi> and here is no acceptable compiler in $Path
[11:46] <timi> ido that in the same directory?
[11:46] <gatekeeper> intelikey: ubuntu forums have just come up for me, quickly too, as for gcc, I would just use the latest version in the package manager, should do the job
[11:46] <intelikey> !build-essential > timi
[11:46] <trappist> timi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:46] <intelikey> gatekeeper k ty.
[11:47] <gatekeeper> intelikey: yw for what it's worth :-)
[11:47] <timi> thanks
[11:48] <gatekeeper> timi: some distros install gcc by default, (k)ubuntu doesn't
[11:48] <acojlo> my keyboard was dead after "sudo biosdecode and password"
[11:48] <acojlo> just synaptics worked
[11:49] <timi> i trid to compile again and it got way farther but it cant find X includes
[11:49] <timi> do i have to apt get taht or would it be something in teh directory
[11:49] <draik> timi, have you done ./configure yet?
[11:50] <timi> yeah thats the last thing it says when i run that command
[11:50] <draik> what is the file"\
[11:50] <draik> file?
[11:50] <timi> the file
[11:51] <timi> im trying to compile a program
[11:51] <draik> right... you said it couldn't find something
[11:51] <draik> was it a file?
[11:51] <intelikey> timi  xorg-dev - the X.Org development libraries
[11:51] <timi> ok im figuring i need apt get that or adept it or something
[11:52] <intelikey> yep
[11:52] <draik> right
[11:52] <timi> ok is this right then
[11:52] <timi> sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[11:52] <intelikey> yep
[11:53] <GIGANTOR> do macs have a command line?
[11:53] <draik> timi, yet
[11:53] <draik> timi, yes
[11:53] <timi> thnks
[11:53] <draik> np
[11:54] <intelikey> system call auditing support in the kernel, good or bad ?
[11:54] <draik> GIGANTOR, I think they do, I don't have any exp with them, but I'm sure they do
[11:54] <intelikey> timi may i ask what you are building ?
[11:54] <timi> kbootsplahs
[11:54] <timi> not it says this
[11:54] <timi> Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries)
[11:54] <timi> now* it says
[11:54] <intelikey> qtdev
[11:54] <timi> haha ok thanks
[11:55] <intelikey> apt-cache search is your friend
[11:55] <Tm_T> Qt 4.2 <3
[11:55] <timi> i tried apt-get install qtdev and it said the cant find packate
[11:56] <draik> it's case sensitive...
[11:56] <intelikey> apt-cache search is your friend
[11:56] <draik> Qtdev
[11:56] <timi> i tried apt cache search
[11:56] <timi> lol but i did work
[11:57] <intelikey> apt-cache search dev | grep -ie qt
[11:57] <intelikey> qt4-dev-tools - Qt 4 development tools
[11:57] <GIGANTOR> what in the heck...  i got banned from ubuntu-offtopic for saying "f*cking"
[11:57] <GIGANTOR> with the asterick.
[11:57] <GIGANTOR> blaaah
[11:57] <draik> GIGANTOR, why would you even try it?!?!
[11:57] <GIGANTOR> LOL
[11:58] <intelikey> fsck offtopic
[11:58] <GIGANTOR> i assumed it was for grown ups, i dunno
[11:58] <intelikey> E; offtopic not a file system.
[11:58] <GIGANTOR> ESRB: online experience may change
[11:58] <gatekeeper> there is a libqt4-dev package
[11:58] <GIGANTOR> but i put an astericks...   cmon now..
[11:58] <GIGANTOR> someone go tell em to unban me  =S
[11:59] <draik> oh well
[11:59] <GIGANTOR> i play nice
[11:59] <draik> lol
[11:59] <GIGANTOR> whats up with people nowadays
[11:59] <GIGANTOR> so sensitive
[11:59] <intelikey> GIGANTOR * matches everything.  so the bot sees it as f[A-z,0-9, ,,] cking
[12:00] <GIGANTOR> even the president said that...  gah
[12:00] <GIGANTOR> ohhh, so it was some unintelligent life form...
[12:00] <intelikey> no
[12:00] <GIGANTOR> well then...
[12:00] <intelikey> life from    hehhe no.
[12:01] <GIGANTOR> hrmph...  didn't like UBUNTU any dang ways
[12:01] <GIGANTOR> thats why i went KUBUNTU, probably
[12:01] <draik> !wall
[12:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about wall - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:01] <intelikey> warn all  ?
[12:02] <Dasnipa`> GIGANTOR, kubuntu and ubuntu are the same project essentially... doesnt make sense to say you dont like ubuntu and say you like kubuntu... the only thing that would fit there would be for you to say you dont like gnome and like KDE
[12:02] <acojlo> what does it mean (pam_unix) in authentication log?
[12:02] <Blaidd> I was wondering if someone might have a second to answer a question or two of mine.  I'm looking for the bttv config file in breezey, but haven't been able to find it
[12:03] <intelikey> Dasnipa` is it ok to say i don't like *buntu then  :)
[12:03] <timi> i used adept and installed libqt4-dev
[12:03] <timi> but i still get this
[12:03] <timi>  error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[12:04] <draik> GIGANTOR, why not split your words into things that go together... like sofa king
[12:04] <timi> does that men i shoud install qt 3 or something
[12:04] <draik> yes timi
[12:04] <intelikey> timi i tried to teach you how to find it.
[12:04] <intelikey> libqt3-headers - Qt3 header files
[12:04] <draik> timi, as long as it's version is between 3.2 and 4.0
[12:05] <acojlo> oh, I have a standard error from the moment I installed Kubuntu in log: kdm_greet : Internal error: memory corruption detected . WHy?
[12:05] <Blaidd> anyone able to help me with bttv?
[12:05] <GIGANTOR> lol draik
[12:06] <intelikey> !info kbootsplash
[12:06] <ubotu> Package kbootsplash does not exist in dapper
[12:06] <draik> GIGANTOR, I Am We Todd Did, I Am Sofa King We Todd Did
[12:06] <mehdi> do you know how i can conf apache2 (ServerName)
[12:06] <timi> right so i got past the qt thing
[12:07] <timi> now i have no kde headers
[12:07] <intelikey> apt-cache search is your friend
[12:07] <mehdi> {#/etc/apache2/??/XX.conf