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Jack_SparrowThat leaves just over 10% for windows..12:00
jribNutubuntu: ok, what is in there?12:01
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Jack_Sparrowmattthat is enough for a basic install... go fo it12:01
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matttttttbasic install for ubuntu?12:01
Jack_Sparrowmattttttt: that is enough12:01
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Jack_Sparrow1 gig swap 7 for Ub12:02
mattttttti wish i could get the live CD working. I tried linux already though and liked it.12:02
gatekeeperJack_Sparrow: some positive wibes at last :-)12:02
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matttttttso give ubuntu 7GB?12:02
Jack_Sparrowmattttttt: the live cd does not work?12:02
Nutubuntujrib - two directories (language.d and updmap.d) and a file called language.dat.postinst-bak12:02
vgoltserlive cd has trouble here too12:03
Jack_Sparrowgatekeeper: :)12:03
vgoltserso, any players for linux that can stream to a shoutcast server?12:03
matttttttJack_Sparrow: I get errors when trying to boot it. I did the check disk thing (not sure of the name offhand) and it failed.12:03
haarymicahcowan: Thanks, but I found another soulution: edit /var/lib/locales/supported.d/de and then dpkg-reconfigure locales. This adds the desired locales12:03
livingdaylightok12:03
SanketMedhivgoltser: many12:03
vgoltserones that don'12:03
vgoltserones that don't crash12:03
SanketMedhi?12:03
vgoltserxmms crashes when streaming to one ...12:03
micahcowanhaary, great. For my  own future reference, where did you find out about that?12:03
SanketMedhivgoltser: there are many of them search them12:03
jribNutubuntu: ok I would just rename /etc/texmf to /etc/texmf.backup and then try install tetex again.  That way if you do see you need something from your old configuration, it is still saved12:03
Jack_Sparrowmattttttt: If the checkdisk failed and it wont boot live you are heading down a dangerous path.12:03
vgoltsersanket, give me one12:03
jvai_totem can do it, but not automatically, u have to right clik on the file then choos totem to open it12:04
Jack_Sparrowmattttttt: get a good copy, order one free...12:04
Jack_Sparrowor 1012:04
vgoltserVLC, mplayer and totem seem to be missing the shoutcast feature12:04
gatekeepermattttttt: sounds good to me, got to go to bed so good night and good luck, and good night to you to Jack_Sparrow too :-)12:04
livingdaylightanyone know what E: Package opera has no installation candidate could be about?12:04
SanketMedhivgoltser: hold on12:04
Jack_Sparrownight12:04
livingdaylighttried to install opera using the wiki12:04
haarymicahcowan: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Lokalisierung (in german)12:04
jrib!opera12:04
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.12:04
SanketMedhivgoltser: Amarok does it12:04
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livingdaylightjrib: its not in my add/remove programs for some reason (unfortunately)12:05
matttttttJack_Sparrow: it's my computer then, not the live CD? the CD looks fine. someone got a bunch from shipit.ubuntu and gave one to me.12:05
jvai_when u dl the shoutcast stream, it's stored in the tmp folder12:05
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jriblivingdaylight: after checking "show commercial applications"?12:05
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Jack_Sparrowmatt, do the self test12:05
Nutubuntujrib - okay, did that ... I'll try to install tetex now12:05
vgoltserumm, I don't want to listen to a shoutcast stream12:05
vgoltserI want to make one12:05
Jack_Sparrowmattttttt:  , do the self test12:05
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jvai_ooo12:05
micahcowanhaary, thanks for that. I was just about to discover something like it at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137306&highlight=locales12:05
vgoltserexactly12:05
micahcowanglad it's working for you now. :)12:05
skavengelivingdaylight: you did click on the commercial/unsupported apps checkboxes in add/remove right?12:06
vgoltserxmms has a plugin ... that crashes ...12:06
jbaloulhi all, does anyone know whats going on with microphone input...seems not to be working since latest upgrade12:06
_atomichi12:06
matttttttJack_Sparrow: the option that checks the disk? I did, and it failed. or something else?12:06
n0l0nXcan anyone point me to a wifi pcmcia 802.11g card with linux support (no ndiswrapper)?12:06
SanketMedhivgoltser: amarok plays brilliantly12:06
Jack_Sparrowmattttttt:  either it failed or it passed, thaere are only two options'12:06
dlin0l0nX, quite many12:06
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livingdaylightjrib: i see no commercial applications tab12:06
Jack_SparrowDoes someone want to help MAtttt I am losing patience...12:06
SanketMedhivgoltser: Shoutcast for linux itself can be used without a player12:07
matttttttJack_Sparrow: it did fail....thats what i said12:07
Patyhola12:07
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skavengelivingdaylight: its not a tab its a box under search in add/remove12:07
vgoltsersanket, where in amarok do I configure for shoutcast?12:07
vgoltserI know12:07
livingdaylightskavenge: no commercial/unsupported tab in my add/remove programs12:07
dlin0l0nX, might be outdated: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html12:07
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_atomicinterest12:07
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Jack_Sparrowmattttttt:  you also said or something else..12:07
livingdaylightskavenge: i know what you mean12:07
vgoltserbut I also want a player that can stream to shoutcast12:07
n0l0nXdli, actually I searched in the wiki, but I didnt find much12:07
buntaHey folks :o12:07
jbaloulanyone ?12:07
n0l0nXdli, thanks for the link12:07
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godtviskenHm.. I am looking for a clean bittorrent client, something like uTorrent but for linux. What should I use?12:07
buntaGot a lovely keyboard problem & installation dependency for KDE12:07
Jack_Sparrowmattttttt: if you got a bad cd deal with it.  GEt another or download it12:07
matttttttJack_Sparrow: that was meant to ask if "self test" is something else other than the disk check12:07
buntaAnyone got some time to spare? :P12:07
dlin0l0nX, also, get kernel source, have a look what's in there12:08
chantecodehi, could anyone helm me about a problem conrning nvidia and xorg?12:08
livingdaylightskavenge: i have accessories; education; games; graphics;internet; office etc12:08
skavengeapplications -> add/remove, the boxes are right under the 'search:' option, im staring at it right now12:08
SanketMedhivgoltser: sorry I think that is Icecast not Shotcast.....shoutcast is proprietary and does not work with many players except its own12:08
siennalizardbunta: ask your question.12:08
Nutubuntujrib - I am not sure why I originally installed texinfo, but I am sure I've never used it, so am not installing it this round :)   My goodness, those are big files -- I'm grateful for cable :)12:08
jbalouldoes anyone know whats going on with microphone input...seems not to be working since latest upgrade12:08
n0l0nXdli, ok thanks12:08
vgoltsercan winamp receive icecast?12:08
dlin0l0nX, preferrence order to me: rt2500 , zd1211 , madwifi12:08
jribNutubuntu: lucky, I had to do this on dial up :/12:08
haarymicahcowan: Yes, this is the basically the same way12:09
siennalizardjbaloul: check the volume control/mixer. double click the speaker icon, top right.12:09
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SanketMedhivgoltser: yes12:09
vgoltsergood12:09
Nutubuntujrib - ... ow ... :/12:09
skavengelivingdaylight: if theres no 'add/remove programs' right under applications i dont think your running dapper12:09
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livingdaylightskavenge: there is add/remove programs12:09
jbaloulsiennalizard its not that12:09
Jack_Sparrowskavenge: agreed12:10
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chantecodeI have a problem with nvidia driver: my screen turn himself off when I start my xorg server12:10
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skavengelivingdaylight: thats what we've been saying this whole time!12:10
livingdaylightskavenge: i thought you're talking about inside of it12:10
chantecodecould anyone help me12:10
chantecode?12:10
n0l0nXdli, thanks =)12:10
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dlichantecode, followed the nvidia binary driver howto?12:10
Masticorecopy a whole folder is cp -rf ?12:10
livingdaylightskavenge: relax dude12:10
Nutubuntujrib - Things look good; it's configuring tetex-bin without the error that was stopping it before ... and done :)12:10
skavengelivingdaylight: it is inside of it, under 'search:', there's two check boxes saying 'show unsupported apps' 'show commerical apps'12:10
buntasiennalizard, thanks.. lets start off with the simpler (I hope) of the two problems.. My keyboard layout seems to always reset to US upon a system restart/boot up. I want it to default to UK permanently.. What I usually do is simply go into the keyboard menu, and redo the whole setting it.. and it works, till the next restart12:10
jribNutubuntu: great12:10
livingdaylightskavenge: instead of getting hot under the colar check what i've written to you12:10
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SanketMedhiMasticore: cp -R or else cp -a, see man cp12:10
skavengelivingdaylight: well it gets old repeating 12 times12:10
chantecodedli: Yep I followed the FAQ nvidia in ubuntu-fr website12:10
MasticoreSanketMedhi: kkk12:11
livingdaylightskavenge: lol, well i told you i couldn't find the box, so why not tell my i got to type and serch for the damn thing : )12:11
Nutubuntujrib - Now reinstalling kile ... and hopefully will be back with working LaTeX :)12:11
skavengelivingdaylight: *sigh* there is no type to search12:11
chantecodedli: Do you want to see my logs?12:12
siennalizardbunta: when you make those changes, you're using System>Preferences>Keyboard, right?12:12
skavengelivingdaylight: its right in fron of you between the search list and the description12:12
Jack_Sparrowskavenge: better you than me handling that one12:12
dlichantecode, yes12:12
livingdaylightwell there is no commercial to click on as you suggested, so forgive my confusion12:12
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chantecodedli: Thank you :-)  Here is a pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/9891812:12
skavengelivingdaylight: then somethings broke because its there for everyone else in dapper12:13
siennalizardlivingdaylight: if you're comfortable with adding a line to your /etc/apt/sources.list, you can install it that way. Alternatively, go to the opera website and download the .deb12:13
skavengesiennalizard: that may be the only way its going to get done12:13
diskotec|wI'm trying to install Zope3 and I'm getting...  Zope3: no instances found.  The folks in #zope told me to ask here because they think I'd need to enable extra repositories.  Which repositories would I use..any suggestions?12:13
buntasiennalizard, correct12:13
skavengeadd/remove is too complicated i guess12:13
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siennalizardskavenge: that's not the problem. it could be that livingdaylight hasn't updated in a while.12:14
Jack_Sparrowskavenge: Run him through it with synaptic?12:14
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livingdaylightsiennalizard: i have updated and upgraded thanks for checking12:14
skavengesiennalizard: that wouldnt have anything to do with the unsupported and commercial check boxes not being there enitely12:14
livingdaylightskavenge: i'm sorry but it is not there12:14
johnnyb_I'm trying to run Ubuntu on an old-world mac, but it has stopped the boot process where it says "Begin: Waiting for root file system".  Any ideas?12:14
dlichantecode, comment out the f86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom part12:14
jibanautilus-cd-burner fails to blank my DVD-RW, although K3B does it. XCDroast fails too, and complains about cdrecord-ProDVD missing, but i didn't found a package for it. Is that a known problem ?12:15
dlichantecode, try again12:15
siennalizardright, livingdaylight, put deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main12:15
skavengelivingdaylight: like i said you have an underlying problem then, i suggest downloading the .deb from opera.com12:15
ttyfsckerwho was it that asked me why use nero when i had k3b?12:15
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siennalizardlivingdaylight: in your sources.list12:15
chantecodedli: ok, thank you12:15
livingdaylightsiennalizard: i'm very happy adding a line to my sources list i did but i got the result which i have posted earlier12:15
siennalizardlivingdaylight: then apt-get update && apt-get install opera12:15
Nutubuntujrib - All seems to work just fine now. I really don't know how to thank you enough -- have a 200+ page book I'm working on and needed LaTeX to be able to continue revising and re-type-setting it. Thanks ... just isn't enough :)12:15
skavengeJack_Sparrow: this one's beyond me12:15
ttyfsckeri have an answer to that question now..  the interface is minimal, it uses no system resources, and it doesnt complain about plugins all the time..12:15
jpiccolowould anyone be willing to try to help me with getting my sound to work12:15
dlichantecode, I noticed that your resolution is 800x600, is that true? or you have to dpkg-reconfigure again12:15
livingdaylightsiennalizard: previous to that i downloaded the deb file from opea but i came across a dependecny issue12:15
livingdaylightsiennalizard: so...what now. its not in my add/remove programs either12:16
pike_ttyfscker: and dvd menus12:16
livingdaylightthis aint fun12:16
livingdaylightsiennalizard: i did that12:16
ttyfsckerpike_:: its better than k3b to me.. i always liked nero on windows.. im glad we have it for linux now..12:16
siennalizardlivingdaylight: what was the missing dep?12:16
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chantecodedli: I tried this resolution to be sure the crash doesn't come from it12:16
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livingdaylightsiennalizard: E: Package opera has no installation candidate12:16
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ttyfsckerpike_:: it didnt take me very long to decide to pay the 19.99 for the linux version :)12:17
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livingdaylightsiennalizard: oh, that was some mtq3-mt thing12:17
skavenge'pay'? 'linux'? bah12:17
buntasiennalizard, any ideas on what I could do?12:17
ttyfsckerskavenge:: ahh whatever.. some things i will pay for12:17
Masticorehow do I set the root password ?12:17
SanketMedhittyfscker: K3B and gnomebaker are good enough, we don't need a nero for linux12:17
ttyfsckerMasticore:: sudo passwd12:17
SanketMedhiMasticore: read System Docs in System >> Help12:17
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MalachiWhat's a good browser besides Firefox? Firefox is my favorite, but I need another browser to store the cookies of my "alias" accounts....12:17
skavengettyfscker: nero is good, havent used the linux ver12:18
yggdrasilneros cool cuz it will conver stuff for ya12:18
dsasMalachi: epiphany12:18
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siennalizardlivingdaylight: what platform are you on?12:18
MalachiThanks. Included in the repos?12:18
dsasMalachi: or rather epiphany-browser12:18
skavengemy dvd burner has dma issues so its going to be a sluganyway12:18
SanketMedhiyggdrasil: I don't think it does that on linux12:18
OoberMickMalachi: sudo -s will give you a root shell12:18
dsasMalachi: yes12:18
SanketMedhior does it?12:18
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yggdrasilnope12:18
MalachiOoberMick: Buh?12:18
yggdrasildoubt it12:18
jpiccolocan anyone help me get nvmixer working?12:18
OoberMickMalachi: opps bad complete12:18
yggdrasilbut the win versions is nice for not having to mess around with all that conversionstuff, total nightmare.12:18
ttyfsckergnomebaker  isnt worth a sh*t12:18
livingdaylightsiennalizard: Dapper?12:19
yggdrasilk3b has been the only thing ive seen solid.12:19
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OoberMickMasticore: sudo -s will give you a root shell12:19
livingdaylightsiennalizard: 386?12:19
ttyfsckerk3b is decent. but i dont like it because its designed for kde and it uses qt..12:19
pike_Malachi: if you decide to remove the root pass later and use  sudo 'passwd -l root' but sudo passwd root will enable the accoutn12:19
vakoseli want to install the headers kernel files . which package to choose?12:19
ttyfsckervakosel:: linux-headers-2.6.x-x-arch12:20
siennalizardbunta: I'm sorry, I'm out of my depth on your keyboard issue. I can only think that gnome is not saving your session. try System>preferences>sessions, and telling it to save your session automatically. Its' the only thing I can recommend.12:20
vakoseli have intel pentium12:20
dlivakosel, apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`12:20
Masticoreok12:20
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buntasiennalizard, thanks.. I think its probably that.. I've got a XGI (I think) + Compiz session running on :P No worries tho.. its only a minor quibble ;)12:20
ttyfsckerreplace the x's and arch with the appropriate numbers.. ex. 2.6.15-26-68612:20
livingdaylightskavenge: are you saying gparted should have come with Dapper by default?12:20
skavengecan anyone help with NAT? I've got ICS turned on through firestarter, machines can ping each other but no outward inet from the secondary box?12:21
Darkprincei'm relatively new to linux... how do i update my video card driver?12:21
buntasiennalizard, the second problem.. is installing kubuntu-desktop.. I'm getting some dependency errors which I'm unable to install :o12:21
skavengelivingdaylight: yes the dapper cd has gparted on it, or should, its in the manifest12:21
livingdaylighthow can i tell whether i got teh full stable installation of dapper12:21
siennalizardlivingdaylight: does your sources.list look something like this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18575812:21
buntanamely libpoppler1 + libpoppler1-qt related12:21
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pike_Darkprince: ati or nvidia or intel?12:21
SenesenceMy ubuntu desktop position is out of place. I tried pressing the "Auto sync" button on my monitor but that only makes the desktop move to the right of the screen by a half. Does anyone know how to fix this?12:21
Darkprincepike_, ati12:21
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chantecodedli: Thak you, I will try soon12:21
Jack_Sparrowlivingdaylight: Did youever run the self test on that cd to make sure it worked?12:21
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siennalizardlivingdaylight: if not, make it so, then run "sudo apt-get update" and try installing opera again.12:22
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pike_Darkprince: see wiki.ubuntu.com and search for ati12:22
siennalizardlivingdaylight: did you upgrade from breezy?12:22
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skavengeman i had NAT working fine before but it kinda fell into place and now i cant figure out whats wrong now that i reinstalled heh12:22
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livingdaylightsiennalizard: no, just reinstalled12:22
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Jack_Sparrowlivingdaylight: Test that cd12:22
buntasiennalizard, I get this first: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins .. then when I try to apt-get that, I'd get:  Depends: libpoppler1-qt (>= 0.5.1) but it is not going to be installed .. and finally (after another apt): libpoppler1 (= 0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed12:23
rcmivbest way to configure ubuntu to boot to command line?12:23
vakoseli tried to use the apt get install linux-headers didnt work .what is the command exactly?12:23
Jack_Sparrowapt-get ?12:23
vakoselyes12:23
pike_rcmiv: update-rc.d -f gdm remove i think12:23
bunta=/12:23
dlivakosel, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:24
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rcmivthat's exactly what I thought, but it12:24
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vakosellike this?12:24
livingdaylightsiennalizard: mine looks like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1881912:24
rcmiv is the "i think" part that bothers me12:24
vakoseluname?12:24
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livingdaylightJack_Sparrow: yea, geez, i didn't12:24
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pike_rcmiv: that will work and is best i just wasnt sure of syntax im on windows right now12:24
OoberMickrcmiv: he's right12:25
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lopzidedis there a configuration file i can delete to make gnome settings go back to default?12:25
vgoltsericecast does not want to work12:25
rcmivi suppose I'll just use sysv-rc-conf and deselct gdm at every run level?12:25
dlircmiv, double check in /etc/rc3.d/12:25
SenesenceHow do I get my ubuntu desktop to line up with the screen size? Right now it's off by about an inch to the right.12:25
vgoltserrun it as root and it wants to be run as user12:25
DharmaHi12:25
CrescendoI have two soundcards, one is onboard, the other is PCI... all audio comes out of the PCI card, which is default, but anything in the flash plugin comes out the onboard sound... how do I switch these?12:25
vgoltserrun it as user and it can't write to /var12:25
Darkprincepike_,  when i search for ATI, i get every word with those 3 letters12:25
siennalizardbunta: hmmm. I would say to you that you should check your sources.list, then apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. just make sure everything is up-to-date.12:25
vgoltsersomeone needs to change the default config12:25
SanketMedhivgoltser: icecast is a pain to config12:25
pike_!ati12:25
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:25
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DharmaAnybody knows How I can start Hal?12:26
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buntasiennalizard, lemme go disable some errm.. unofficial repos12:26
SanketMedhivgoltser: why don't you use the default shoutacast for linux?12:26
vgoltsersanket, then I want something that can stream to a shoutcast server ...12:26
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Jack_Sparrowlivingdaylight: It just seems something serious is wrong or corrupt12:26
gnomefreakDharma: hal starts automaticly12:26
vakoselthx a lot !12:26
vakoselworked12:26
vgoltsersanket?12:26
dliDharma, it's started by default12:26
siennalizardlivingdaylight: you haven't put the new commercial repo in as I suggested. deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main12:26
vgoltserdefault?12:26
DharmaYes but it doesn't...12:26
pike_Darkprince: nvidia is in general a much better idea for linux12:26
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gnomefreakDharma: its running atm im sure12:26
SanketMedhivgoltser: use Shoutcast for linux, its the same as the one you use on the Other system12:26
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siennalizardbunta: it's going to be things like that which cause the problem...12:26
dyn-afknvidia is like heaven when you're used to ati stuff12:26
rcmivthanks guys...12:26
vgoltserI have a linux version of the shoutcast server, I just need a player to send it stuff12:26
dliDharma, /etc/init.d/hald restart12:26
Dharmawhen I type ps its not there12:26
interfeari need to "cc" compiller, would i install the "cpp" package to get that?12:26
buntasiennalizard, ahh k.. retryin12:26
vgoltserxmms is closest to working, but it crashes12:26
Darkprincepike_, but i have ATI cards =\12:26
vgoltserati > nvidia12:27
pike_Darkprince: ebay :)12:27
gnomefreakinterfear: why not gcc?12:27
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livingdaylightsiennalizard: i used the wiki and followed the guide's instructions on how to install opera12:27
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Veloriumskavenge: alright, i'm still back to windows but i got alot of info off of trying the listed commands in terminal, what do you need12:27
Darkprincepike_, not gonna work for me12:27
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interfeargnomefreak: oh, yeh drr.12:27
vgoltserati drivers are way easier to install, no need to compile anything, just build modules12:27
interfearvgoltser: ati < nvidia @ linux12:27
Ronzhey...i installed wine from the source, but its not showing up in synaptic. how do i uninstall it?12:27
gnomefreakinterfear: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:27
interfeargnomefreak: thanks man12:27
Darkprince=(12:27
siennalizardlivingdaylight: I'm proposing another way... if that's alright with you...12:27
gnomefreakyw12:27
interfearcd12:27
interfearoops12:27
skavengeVelorium: what did ndiswrapper -l give you? driver and hardware present?12:27
dyn-afkbut the overall quality and features of the ati drivers are a disaster compared to the nvidia ones12:27
livingdaylightsiennalizard: tell me12:27
Darkprincei just want to get world of warcraft working in cedega =(12:27
Dharmadli there is no such file in my system12:27
RonzDarkprince, you can get wow workign under wine. =)12:28
siennalizardRonz: it won't show up in Synaptic if you did "make install"12:28
buntasiennalizard, apparently.. I have 0.5.1-0ubuntu7 of libpoppler1.. but I need 0.5.3-0ubuntu112:28
vgoltserdyn, the config utility blows, but the drivers are pretty decent ...12:28
interfeardont play WoW!!!12:28
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vgoltserand way easier to install12:28
Dharmahal is installed but I can;t see it12:28
interfearits stupid!12:28
dyn-afknah12:28
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dyn-afkati drivers tend to crash linux boxes quite a lot12:28
livingdaylightsiennalizard: ok, tell me but i have to take a break now12:28
Dharmacan' t I check it via GUI?12:28
pike_Darkprince: im just not optimistic about chances for 3d gaming on new ati cards12:28
interfearyou level up for what!? what sthe point ?!? so you can get cooler weapons for what!? pvp!?12:28
siennalizardRonz: you might be able to go to the original source dir and type "make uninstall"12:28
DarkprinceRonz, i got it kind of working in cedega... as in i can select my character and everything just fine but when i click "enter world" the game hangs12:28
interfearstupid12:28
vgoltserdyn, can nvidia drivers be installed on a backdated debian? (2.4 kernel)12:28
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tuxtuxciao at all12:29
vgoltserit cannot ... it has been tried.12:29
DarkprinceRonz, thought it was a cedega problem at first, but it's actually freezing my whole computer so my guess is i need to update my ATI drivers... just don't know how12:29
siennalizardlivingdaylight: put that line in your sources.list, then "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install opera" should work like a charm. It's all new stuff that isn't in the howto's yet.12:29
Veloriumskavenge: yes it said they're present12:29
dyn-afkdunno vgoltser12:29
RonzDarkprince, can you run glxgears?12:29
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DarkprinceRonz, what's that?12:29
vgoltserdarkprince, the forum has the answer12:30
SanketMedhiis Opera good?12:30
RonzDarkprince, it tests your video card12:30
dyn-afkI don't use kernel 2.4 anymore12:30
skavengeVelorium: okay so we know the driver and ndiswrapper are present .. where are you hitting a roadblock?12:30
Darkprincevgoltser, what forum?12:30
vgoltserdyn, can you get nvidia to do dual monitor?12:30
vgoltserthe ubuntu forum12:30
SanketMedhidoes Opera come for amd64?12:30
DarkprinceRonz, in cedega?12:30
jpiccoloXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". <-what does that mean?12:30
propheti reformatted my windows drive to ubuntu :)12:30
dyn-afkand the only nvidia box I have runs ubuntu 6.06 (and so does this laptop with an ati graphics card)12:30
Jack_SparrowDarkprince: I personally refuse to spend my time helping people who drag programs in from another OS and want to complain about how they dont work or they are too slow...12:30
Ronzno Darkprince , from command line12:30
polpakprophet: congratulations12:30
vgoltserjpiccolo, it means you don't have hardware accelaration ...12:30
vgoltserI think12:30
dyn-afkno idea about dual monitor, don't use it :)12:30
MetaMorfoziSwhat is the cmd that tells me infromations about direct rendering?12:30
KyralJack_Sparrow: Hear Hear!12:30
SanketMedhidoes Cedega has a free version yet? without any ads?12:30
RonzDarkprince, hop over to #winehq and i will help you there12:30
DarkprinceRonz, i don't know, i'm pretty new to linux12:31
KyralCedega was never Free12:31
vgoltsermeta, glxinfo | grep direct12:31
gnomefreakSanketMedhi: no12:31
DarkprinceRonz, ok12:31
SanketMedhiI know12:31
skavengeJack_Sparrow: amen i wish we could shuffle all this to #winehq or something ..12:31
Kyralneither as in Freedom12:31
Veloriumskavenge: well i'm not actually sure, here's some commands i ran12:31
SanketMedhiok12:31
Kyralor as in Beer12:31
Jack_Sparrowagreed12:31
MetaMorfoziSvgoltser: thank you12:31
vgoltserI want beer12:31
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SanketMedhilol12:31
vgoltserlinux != beer12:31
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skavengecedega gas a CVS version thats free but its ancient12:31
vgoltserso linux can never be free as in beer, it can only be free as in linux12:31
skavengegas/has12:31
vgoltserfree beer is way better than free linux anyway12:31
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SanketMedhiskavenge: do games work on it ? :)12:31
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Klownerfree linux doesn't give you a gut though12:32
schottygreets12:32
Jack_SparrowWIne wants to tell people they can run these games, let them answer the questions and listen to the complaints.  Maybe they will work to improve their product/code...12:32
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siennalizardSanketMedhi: it is good, yes. try it and see! you might have to use dpkg --force architecture -i12:32
skavengeSanketMedhi: maybe lemmings, it has barely any support12:32
polpakSanketMedhi: many games actually work find in wine12:32
vgoltserklowner ... it doesn't make you happy either12:32
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vgoltserngame work in wine better than the native linux version12:32
vgoltserdamn adobe ...12:32
Klownervgoltser: using windows makes me sad, so by comparison, yes it does12:32
Veloriumhere it is, also there's a screen shot attatched of the networking screen, but i don't have a dial up modem so i'm not sure what the deal with that is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1882012:32
vgoltserthey are shit ... literally12:32
prophetwhat was that command to auto amount partitions?12:32
SanketMedhipolpak: I use Wine for a few, but many people keep on asking for Age of Empires/Kings/Mythology which I guess don't work with Wine12:32
vgoltsercheck the loki installers12:33
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Petri_LI'm having a sound problem. I can't get sound from two programs at the same time. Meaning I can't listen to music and for example talk to someone over skype at the same time. I can't acces alsamixer it says "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" I have a Compaq nx6110 laptop sound device:0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)12:33
SanketMedhivgoltser: which games are you talking about?12:33
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vgoltserngame by metanet12:33
vgoltsera flash game12:33
siennalizardPetri_L: which version of skype? the new one or the old one which caused the problems you're describing?12:34
SanketMedhivgoltser: try America's Army, it runs amazingly fast12:34
vgoltserpuzzle/action platformer12:34
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SanketMedhiok12:34
vgoltsermeh12:34
vgoltserI will install ut2k4 eventually12:34
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vgoltserpentium d system at work ;)12:34
vgoltserwith an X30012:34
aceshighnghnghng12:34
polpakSanketMedhi: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=1007&iTestingId=68212:34
vgoltserubuntu doesn't like my powerhouse at home though12:34
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polpakvgoltser: ut2k4 works great native12:34
KlownerSanketMedhi: Age of Whatever are all Microsoft games, so they probably use ungodly dark windows hackery, thus angering Wine12:34
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vgoltserpartitioner freezes at 50%12:35
Asterisk_NewbieHi all, from Portugal12:35
Jack_Sparrowvgoltser: patience12:35
SanketMedhiKlowner: I know :P12:35
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skavengeVelorium: okay well none of the wlan0 commands are going to work because its calling the card eth2 instead, but thats fine as long as it sees it ask a wireless device (which it is), have you tried going into network manager, enabling the eth2 and setting in to dhcp?12:35
vgoltserpolpak, I know, I had 5fps of ut2k4 goodness on my laptop ^^12:35
vgoltserxpress200m there12:35
vgoltserwith a sempron 3000+12:35
Petri_Lsiennalizard: version 1.2.0.18_API although I've had this problem from the get go I think12:35
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cotrolerHello ppl12:36
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polpakJack_Sparrow: I actually had the partitioner lock up on me every time when I ran the dapper desktop install. I had to use the alternate install cd12:36
Veloriumskavenge: yes i did, i set the SSID to ACTIONTEC, though i noticed it's searching channel 1 where as my router is on channel 11.12:36
siennalizardPetri_L: there's a new version in the repos which will solve that problem, I think.12:36
cotrolerI have a small problemi just installed apt-get install nvidia-glx12:36
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johnny_can someone help me with the installation process?12:37
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cotrolernow what must i do to install nvidia drivers?12:37
Jack_Sparrow!ati12:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:37
polpak!nvidia12:37
gnomefreakcotroler: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:37
siennalizardPetri_L: there are workarounds, but it's because the old version you've got locks up the sound device with the old OSS system, and doesn't use ALSA.12:37
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johnny_it gets to 87% on remaining packages and then gives me "check /var/log/syslog "12:37
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CrescendoI have two soundcards, one is onboard, the other is PCI... all audio comes out of the PCI card, which is default, but anything in the flash plugin comes out the onboard sound... how do I switch these?12:37
Veloriumskavenge: and i'm unaware of how to change that, also usually when my USB is searching, the LED blinks a few times about every 30 seconds, i don't see that doing that at all while i was doing that12:37
gnomefreakcotroler: please dont pm me without asking first12:37
johnny_should i try using ext2 instead of ext3?12:37
Jack_Sparrowjohnny_:  Did you do the self test on the cd?12:38
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gnomefreakcotroler: please read the !nvidia info12:38
polpakjohnny_: I had trouble with the installation on my work computer.. the CD kept spinning up too fast and giving errors on files12:38
johnny_self test?12:38
Jack_Sparrowjohnny_: That should not matter12:38
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prophetwhat was that command to auto amount partitions?12:38
cotrolergnomefreak: where do i find the nvidia info?12:38
Jack_Sparrow!ati12:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:38
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cotrolergnomefreak: im new to linux :(12:38
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johnny_i just installed it last week but i didnt give enough swap area so now im reinstalling12:38
skavengeVelorium: nor am i but thats critical .. we need to find how to change the channel, i never had to do that but i think its a big point of getting it running .. maybe ask channel or try googling for changing it? best answer i can give sorry12:39
siennalizardPetri_L: any luck?12:39
skipI like easy ubunutu to install nvidia or ati drivers http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/12:39
polpak!nvidia > cotroler12:39
johnny_but this time everytime it gets to 87% of the remainin pckages it quits12:39
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johnny_does anyone know what to do?12:39
polpakcotroler: read the message ubotu sent you12:39
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codecainehow can I stop shit backspace from killing my xserver?12:39
Jack_Sparrowskip:  eeewwwww12:39
polpakcodecaine: stop using XGL?12:39
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codecaineI don't have xgl12:39
codecaineloaded12:39
cotrolerpolpak tnx12:39
codecaineI have it but not activated12:39
Petri_LSiennalizard: according to synaptic I have the same version of skype  as it is listed there12:39
Jack_Sparrow!easybuntu12:39
ubotuI know nothing about easybuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:39
carajeanisnt there a forum or some help file that goes with ubuntu to help newb install dvd players and stuff12:39
gnomefreakcodecaine: please watch your language this is a family channel12:39
Jack_Sparrow!automatix12:39
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.12:39
Veloriumskavenge: alright, but what i dont get at all, is that it said no packets were even sent, plus like i said, it didnt blink as if it was searching like it will on windows when it's searching any signal at all12:40
ubuntufanhi, i recently swapped my ati card for a nvidia fx 5200. I reinstalled dapper and installed the nvidia drivers from repositories. Im getting the lockup bug where only your mouse moves. Is there a way to easily fix this? Or should i get the driver from the site?12:40
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Agrajaggnomefreak: that was a typo, he missed the f in shift.12:40
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polpakcodecaine: you mean you don't have compiz running? But I'm pretty sure you're still using XGL for the X server12:40
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codecainemy language?12:40
codecainelol12:40
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offroadgeekwould someone mind helping me with a question or two about kernel modules?12:40
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codecainehmm is there a config file for xgl to comment it out?12:40
polpakcodecaine: XGL will exit on shift-backspace. Xorg will exit on ctrl-alt-backspace12:40
Jack_Sparrowubuntufan:  there are two different drivers 8500 and older12:40
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polpakcodecaine: ask in #ubuntu-xgl12:41
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gregg__codecaine: normal Xorg quits on ctrl+alt+backspace, that might be your problem if xgl is really deactived12:41
gregg__deactivated12:41
ubuntufanJack_Sparrow: i installed Version: 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-312:41
Agrajagthat can be turned off in xorg.conf12:42
gregg__yes, with option "dontzap"12:42
highphilosopherhey is anyone else here using a mac with ubuntu12:42
ubuntufanJack_Sparrow: i used the package nvidia-glx12:42
jvai_the libdvdcss2  stuff- http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html12:42
jvai_then save it to your home dir12:42
polpakgregg__: it's quitting on shift backspace12:42
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Veloriumskavenge: i found how to change the channel, do you think that's the only problem or is there something else too, because i personally think it's more than just the channel12:42
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codecaineoh xgl auto runs when I load my desktop12:42
MasticoreHow come I dont have sound when I plug in my headset ? I have been in alsamixer and turned everything on 100%12:43
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Veloriumskavenge: but i have absolutely no idea what it could be12:43
ompaulcodecaine, there is a channel for xgl - this is not the place to discuss it thanks12:43
hlabsHey. Is there any software that is similar to limewire. For ubuntu12:43
jvai_u need essential packeages for the proccessor you're running12:43
ompaul!limewire12:43
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.12:43
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siennalizardPetri_L: hmmmm. it may not be in the repositories yet. download it off the skype.com website.12:43
ompaul!frostwire > hlabs12:43
Petri_Lsiennalizard: ok12:44
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Sleeping_Slothhello... is there a folding@home channel on freenode?12:44
ompaulhlabs, read the message from the bot12:44
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SanketMedhiSleeping_Sloth: what?12:44
siennalizardSleeping_Sloth: I know what you mean. And I have no idea.12:44
abo I installed mplayer plugin to firefox, now I can hear the video streams but not view them, anyone can help?12:44
juztinquestion : in gnome, when i plug in a usb storage device, it pops up automatically on my desktop and opens a window to the drive....is there a way to enable something like this in KDE?12:45
siennalizardSleeping_Sloth: irc.freenode.net #eocf12:45
Veloriumskavenge: any thoughts?12:45
hlabsi tried installing frostwire onto my machine but the icon comes in the menu but when i try to load the app. it does not work12:45
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siennalizardSleeping_Sloth: google is your friend!12:45
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Sleeping_Slothsiennalizard: I was after aubuntu based one really.... thanks, I'll give it a go12:45
siennalizardSleeping_Sloth: I thought you just wanted a folding@home chatroom. sorry!12:46
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MasticoreHow come I dont have sound when I plug in my headset ? I have been in alsamixer and turned everything on 100%12:46
thiago_hi... how can i install all include files, sources, and libs, for develop, like in slackware...???12:46
Sleeping_Slothsiennalizard - well, maybe they'll be able to help in there - a better place to start than here though. thankyou12:46
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polpakthiago_:  sudo apt-get install build-essential12:46
ompaulSleeping_Sloth, this seems to be what you want http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10231312:46
polpakthiago_: that should be a good start anyway12:46
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bobbydhi12:46
bobbydwhat's the correct way to shut down an Ubuntu sustem from the command line?12:47
thiago_polpak, humm thanks, have other command?12:47
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thiago_polpak, for a full ambient for develop12:47
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siennalizardSleeping_Sloth: I think you need http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10231312:47
ompaulbobbyd, sudo shutdown -h now << that is for straight away >> shutdown -r now <<< for reboot12:47
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siennalizardbobbyd: sudo shutdown -h now12:48
Sleeping_Slothompaul: thanks - I really need to talk to someone who knows - I have it all set up and running, just have a few q's about the finer points12:48
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bobbydomarkj, ok thanks siennalizard you too :)12:48
SanketMedhibobbyd: poweroff12:48
cheatersrealmwhere is ubuntu devel channel?12:48
Petri_Lsiennalizard: installed but nothing changed should I reboot? or did I pick the wrong package I picked the debian package at http://skype.com/download/skype/linux/12:48
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hlabsok officially lime wire is not working on my machine12:48
hlabsis there any other software that i can use12:48
micahcowancheatersrealm: #ubuntu-devel?12:48
PingunZfrostwire12:48
SanketMedhihlabs: how did you install it?12:48
ddonkyhlabs - gnutella-gtk12:48
cheatersrealmthanks micahcowan12:48
aceshighcould anyone give me a quicky why i cant find the ".wine directory" after typing wine in the terminal?12:48
hlabswell i installed Java of the repo12:49
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siennalizardPetri_L: that's fine. no need to reboot: this isn't windows! try running it.12:49
PingunZhlabs, just install frostwire trough automatix12:49
hlabsand followed the instructions for lime wire that came with its readme files12:49
ddonkyhlabs - errr, gtk-gnutella12:49
siennalizardPetri_L: then check what version it reports.12:49
chokes<aceshigh> type : winecfg and it will appear12:49
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aceshighlol, thanks :D12:50
jvai_it was fun every112:50
siennalizardPetri_L: you did get the 1.3 beta, right?12:50
micahcowanthiago_, I'm not sure there's one command to do what you want.12:50
siennalizardPetri_L: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html12:50
Petri_Lsiennalizard: 1.2.0.18 API the same... noo I didn't should I? =D12:50
micahcowanMost library packages, etc, have a -dev counterpart that installs header files, etc., related to that specific library...12:50
SanketMedhihlabs: what is the prob now? Try running limewire from command line and tell us about the output12:50
ZambeziMy java takes alot of memory. Can I install another version? I think I installed it with easyubuntu.12:50
siennalizardPetri_L: you def need the new one!!!12:50
phaedrus44nerolinux is soooo great......i got an ubuntu server install with fluxbox and no KDE libs  thanks to nerolinux!12:50
SanketMedhi:|12:51
wakythe new skype have alsa support12:51
wakythe beta12:51
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waky;D12:51
thiago_micahcowan, ok :)12:51
void^i'd prefer k3b with qt libs anytime over nerolinux12:51
chokes<Zambezi> java alway take a lot of memory ;P12:51
phaedrus44my p3 runs like a top12:51
SanketMedhiphaedrus44: what does nero have to do with it?12:51
Petri_Lsiennalizard: ah like that12:51
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PingunZhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1293943&postcount=1 ==> an automatic kernel recompiler12:51
siennalizardPetri_L: you can test: call me: siennalizard12:52
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phaedrus44well...its a robust burning program...ive been burning cds for like 2 days...i used to like k3b...but it came with the bloated kde libs..i like fluxbox12:52
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prophethey fellas what was that auto mount command for start up12:52
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siennalizardprophet: the way to do it is to put a line in your /etc/fstab12:52
thiago_have a program like amarok, but for gnome (in gtk)?12:52
SuperMiguelhello12:52
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propheti did that sienna12:52
hlabslabs@edubuntu:~/music/sto/lime/LimeWire$ sh ./runLime.sh12:53
hlabsStarting LimeWire...12:53
hlabsJava exec found in PATH. Verifying...12:53
hlabsOOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com12:53
hlabsOOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy12:53
hlabsYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com12:53
hlabsls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory12:53
chokesAmarok is the best12:53
SanketMedhiphaedrus44: why don't you use the command line instead? You can then use the server edition without a GUI! :)12:53
hlabsOOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy12:53
hlabsYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com12:53
SuperMigueldoes any one knows how make ubuntu see a printer thats is being shared in a windows machine?12:53
hlabsls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory12:53
hlabsOOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy12:53
hlabsYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com12:53
hlabshlabs@edubuntu:~/music/sto/lime/LimeWire$12:53
pike_prophet: to mount things in fstab: 'sudo mount -a'12:53
siennalizardSuperMiguel: I wrote a tutorial on it... lol I'll find it for you.12:53
Zambezichokes, Java is bloatware. :-(12:53
propheti just added this line /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows vntfs umask=0000,dmask=0000,uid=0002,gid=users,users  0 012:53
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SanketMedhihlabs: follow the instructions in the output!12:53
chokes?12:53
SanketMedhi!paste > hlabs12:53
phaedrus44hehe SanketMedhi..yeah im only a novice user with a gui addiction..but i like to use minimal...so im stuck with gui and not willing to go command line///    : (12:53
Zambezihlabs, Next time, use pastebin please.12:54
phaedrus44like most of the computer user world12:54
Petri_Lsiennalizard: problem with sound device ( I am playing music at the same time)12:54
siennalizardSuperMiguel: found it, but it was for printing to a cups printer. sorry.12:54
hlabsnow how would i use the paste bin12:54
Elakgui addiction kills :E12:54
SuperMiguelthats fine12:54
siennalizardSuperMiguel: how far have you got?12:54
phaedrus44Elak   is reality though12:54
void^!frostwire > hlabs12:54
ttyfsckerhlabs:: you should try frostwire12:54
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hlabsfrostwire is not working on my pc12:54
SuperMigueli can see the shared files but not the printer12:54
SanketMedhifrostwire is java-less ?12:54
phaedrus44i was just stoked about the nerolinux...not the privce though..12:54
siennalizardPetri_L: we can find out what's using /dev/dsp. pop open a terminal, and type lsof /dev/dsp12:54
siennalizardPetri_L: do you get any output?12:55
siennalizardPetri_L: also try fuser /dev/dsp12:55
ttyfsckerhlabs:: you have to get java in /usr/java or /opt/java/12:55
SanketMedhi!frostwire12:55
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire12:55
hlabshow can do that12:55
ttyfsckerSanketMedhi:: not its not java-less12:55
pike_hlabs: frostwire or limewire or amule which wont require java but is a little more complicated and slower12:55
ttyfsckerits like limewirepro but free..12:55
SanketMedhiok12:56
hlabsthis is the paste bin post on my limewire error12:56
ttyfsckerpike_::  what are you talking about12:56
hlabshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1882112:56
Petri_Lsiennalizard: petri@ubuntu:~$ lsof /dev/dsp12:56
Petri_LCOMMAND   PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME12:56
Petri_Lxmms    20626 petri    9w   CHR   14,3      8598 /dev/dsp12:56
Petri_Lpetri@ubuntu:~$ fuser /dev/dsp12:56
Petri_L/dev/dsp:            2062612:56
Petri_Lpetri@ubuntu:~$12:56
SuperMigueldoes any one knows how nake ubunto see a windows base printer thats is being shared?12:56
pike_ttyfscker: oh did i say that outloud?12:56
SanketMedhi!paste > Petri_L12:56
siennalizardPetri_L: now do: ps aux | grep 2062612:57
ttyfsckerhlabs:: i can help you fix that12:57
siennalizardPetri_L:  then we'll find out what the offending process is.12:57
ttyfsckerits rather simple12:57
hlabsplease do i am super lost.12:57
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ttyfsckergo to your terminal.. and cd /usr12:57
siennalizardPetri_L: it's time to try a new media player.12:57
siennalizardPetri_L: bee-media-player is very nice, and quite like xmms.12:58
SuperMiguelhey12:58
PingunZhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1293943&postcount=1 => can anyone with some dev skills leave a post plz, or pm me .. I'm desperatly looking for devs :s12:58
hlabs<ttyfscker> please help me12:58
Ronz!nvidia12:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:58
siennalizardPetri_L: sorry beep-media-player12:58
SanketMedhihlabs: go to java.com and download the package for your architecture, follow the instructions exactly, you should get it working fine if you do12:58
PingunZ!kernel12:58
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild12:58
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SanketMedhi!java12:58
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:58
micahcowansiennalizard: what's wrong with xmms?12:58
prophethow do you turn off the login scren i remember i did it but i forgot how12:58
ttyfsckerhlabs:: im going to  at the terminal type locate java-1.512:58
SanketMedhi!java > hlabs12:58
Petri_L(how does the paste function work?)12:59
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siennalizardmicahcowan: it uses OSS and is out of date, isn't it?12:59
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Agrajagxmms can use alsa12:59
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micahcowansiennalizard: it can use esd or alsa,just need to configure. out of date how?12:59
ttyfsckerxmms uses alsa, esd, or oss12:59
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ttyfscker!beep12:59
ubotuI know nothing about beep - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:59
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siennalizardttyfscker: Agrajag micahcowan: could you explain how to Petri_L ? cheers!12:59
ttyfsckerwell there is beep media player.. its the more updated xmms based on gtk212:59
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hlabsi did install Java run time 5 from the repo12:59
hlabsbut still the thing isnt working01:00
siennalizardttyfscker: that's what I advised Petri_L01:00
geokokcan I ask something about amsn????01:00
SanketMedhiBMP has been crashing sometimes for me01:00
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ttyfsckeri use banshee or xfmedia01:00
siennalizardPetri_L: I've found your problem01:00
SanketMedhibut BMP is still the way to go :)01:00
SanketMedhigeokok: nobody's stopping you :)01:00
Petri_Lsiennalizard: mhm?01:00
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geokokhi all....I got amsn 0.96 on my ubuntu 6 laptop and i have the following problem. THe first time I log in I can view and send webcam perfectly. However, if I quit amsn and then restart it I cant do neither of them anymore. What could it be? I DONT have a router and i use Firestarter..(but if it was the firewall it woudnt allow the first time to view, right??)01:00
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geokokIn fact I had to re-install several times for the cam to work again...until I quited so it stopped working again01:01
siennalizardPetri_L: if you want to use xmms, open it, right-click, options>preferences.01:01
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siennalizardChange output plugin to ALSA01:01
Sleeping_Slothdoes anyone know anything about NUMA?01:01
ttyfsckergeokok:: sounds like its either a bug in your webcam driver, or amsn01:01
scabootsscahow do i add my windows partition to grub? and i already tried the wiki entry01:01
SuperMigueldoes any one know how make ubuntu see a windows shared printer01:01
micahcowanPetri_L: you just go to the paste site, paste.ubuntu-nl.org, enter your name, and paste your text into the text, and hit "Send". Then use that URL to post to the channel.01:01
ttyfsckerhlabs:: do you want java to work or not?01:01
Petri_Lsiennalizard: yes ?01:01
siennalizardPetri_L: have you done that? (look up)01:02
geokokwebcam works in ekiga fine though01:02
hlabsyeah i do want it to work01:02
Petri_LMicahcowan: ok nice  thanks =)01:02
prophethow do you turn off the login scren i remember i did it but i forgot how01:02
siennalizardPetri_L: change output plugin to also01:02
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siennalizardPetri_L: sorry, alsa01:02
ttyfsckergeokok:: its probably amsn then.. webcam support in amsn is rather new, and buggy01:02
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ttyfsckergeokok:: have you tried mercury messenger?01:02
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SanketMedhiisn't there an Ekiga plugin in Gaim?01:02
geokok.......all my hopes for webcam chat are gone....mercury installs but doesnt run01:02
hlabsi typed locate java-1.5 as you said nothing happened01:02
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hlabsin the terminal01:03
ttyfsckerSanketMedhi:: if there is i dont know of it01:03
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geokoki get an erron message that something is not public01:03
SanketMedhiI guess there isn't then01:03
ttyfsckerhlabs:: have you set up java yet?01:03
Jmaxxxhi, i don't have an rgb.txt01:03
siennalizardPetri_L: then you might need to close xmms and open it again.01:03
gnomefreakgeokok: public key?01:03
Jmaxxxwhat package providers rgb.txt?01:03
SanketMedhibut if Kopete can have it, Gaim should too01:03
hlabsok guide me through this please01:03
IceToxHello! I have a problem with mounting my ntfs disk. (2 partitions). They're located on "Computer" but I cannot access them. When I try to enter them I get this message: "Unable to mount the selected volume." When I click on details, I get "error: device /dev/sda5 is not removable01:03
geokokwait i ll install and tell u what it says01:03
IceToxerror: could not execute pmount"01:03
micahcowansiennalizard, Petri_L: you shouldn't have to close xmms, it should "just work" after you save prefs01:03
OoberMickhlabs: did you set the correct java. sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun01:03
ttyfsckerhlabs::  first use easyubuntu to install all of your sun/flash and you will probably want to install codecs01:03
ttyfscker!easyubuntu01:04
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.01:04
siennalizardmicahcowan: thanks.01:04
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Jmaxxx;o01:04
nickuuJust wondering01:04
hlabsok im going to install this easyubuntu thing01:04
Jmaxxxno one knows what package provides rgb.txt? i would imagine it would be a requirement for xserver-xorg01:04
ttyfsckerhlabs::  its a lot easier than having to hold your hand through each process01:04
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nickuuIs it possible to intstall ubuntu when windows is already installed, does it delete windows?01:05
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ttyfsckernickuu:: yes its possible and no it doesnt01:05
nickuuok thanks01:05
Petri_Lsiennalizard: nope now it says check so that no other program is blocking the soundcard (translated from swedish)01:05
nickuujust use the install cd?01:05
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Sleeping_Sloth!sysstat01:05
ubotuI know nothing about sysstat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:05
CvbcAdminhello chanel01:05
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CvbcAdminwelcome a new ubuntu user01:06
OoberMick!dualboot > nickuu01:06
ttyfsckernickuu:: be sure that you use the right partitions during install.. yes use the ubuntu live cd01:06
micahcowanPetri_L: try changing the output driver from alsa to esd/enlightened-sound-daemon?01:06
hlabswell im sorry for asking so many questions. But im new to this ubuntu OS. And its not like XP at all so im kind of a noob at this point. Bear with me plz01:06
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nickuuty01:06
ddonky'sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella'01:06
micahcowanCvbcAdmin: welcome :)01:06
CvbcAdminSanketMedhi, Thank you very much01:06
geokokok ..I install the debian package of mercury and type in the terminal "mercury"....this is what i get :  /usr/bin/mercury: line 1329: strings: command not found01:06
geokokUnable to locate the application's 'main' class. The class 'com.dMSN.Main' must be public and have a 'public static void main(String[] )' method. (LAX)01:06
geokokUnable to Launch Java Application: Unable to locate the application's 'main' class. The class 'com.dMSN.Main' must be public and have a 'public static void main(String[] )' method. (LAX)01:06
ttyfsckerhlabs:: thats why i directed you to easyubuntu ;)01:06
CvbcAdminmicahcowan, thank you01:06
geokoksorry for the double post01:06
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IceToxDo you know what that alternative to Java Sun is?01:06
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CvbcAdmindoes anyone feel like having a short private chat?01:07
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CvbcAdmini was wanting to ask some questions01:07
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CvbcAdminregarding setting up a01:07
CvbcAdmindchp server01:07
jribIceTox: blackdown?01:07
CvbcAdminfirewall and possibly proxy server01:07
jrib!etner01:08
ubotuI know nothing about etner - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:08
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage01:08
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CvbcAdminbut I am very new to ubuntu01:08
jrib!enter01:08
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.01:08
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Knomeis it normal for port 6001 to be open? ---> http://pastebin.ca/9897501:08
geokokanyone about mercury?01:08
Sleeping_Slothhow do I go about changing the default kernel?01:08
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Jmaxxxdoes anyone know what package rgb.txt is supposed to be in?01:08
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SanketMedhiCvbcAdmin: go to http://help.ubuntu.com/community01:08
chokesas a windows user, someone have been recived an : happy birthday from microsoft? LOL01:08
ttyfsckergeokok:: i havent ever got that error01:09
CvbcAdminthank you01:09
sharpi just installed ubuntu server 6.06 on a box i have... and it won01:09
sharpt boot01:09
CvbcAdminSanketMedhi, thank you very much01:09
geokok......it figures01:09
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siennalizardCvbcAdmin: "sudo apt-get install dnsmasq squid" (off the top of my head) will deal with the dhcp and the proxy server, but you've got lots to read until it will all work!01:09
g0stDoes anyone know where the hell apt-get puts java?01:09
gnomefreakchokes: join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat01:09
IceToxjrib, yeah that was what I was looking for :-) thanks :-)01:09
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Petri_Lmicahcowan siennalizard: nope no change and then I closed xmms satrted vlc mediaplayer and then tried to connect to the skype sound test service and it complained about problems with sound device01:09
g0stthe sdk?01:09
sharpit just reboots01:09
Zooliegsmhi all01:09
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chokesok sorry01:09
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chokesbut i just want to say tank you :)01:09
CvbcAdminsiennalizard, could I borrow about 5 to 10 minutes of your time?01:09
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chokeslol01:10
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g0stI honest to god cannot find where the fscking hell the sdk is.01:10
siennalizardCvbcAdmin: fire away, but I haven't long! (need my bed)01:10
CvbcAdminI just wanted to ask you some questions to kind of know how does it compare with debian and other ones of that nature01:10
CvbcAdminthank you very much01:10
Jmaxxxthis has to be a bug... there's no way in hell that the x package would be missing rgb.txt01:10
Zooliegsmi cant use ftp.......if i try to upload to any ftp with any app like gnome-commander and nautilus after the transfer reach 99 or 100 percent it stops.....whats the problem?01:10
micahcowanPetri_L: did you ever run that ps auxww | grep command siennalizard asked about? (The argument to grep should be the number that lsof returned earlier)01:10
ttyfsckerg0st::  it dont put it in the normal place.. it puts it in /usr/lib/jvm/01:10
Petri_Lmicahcowan: yes hold on01:11
siennalizardmicahcowan: yes he/she did and it was xmms01:11
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jribJmaxxx: xrgb gives me that file01:11
Jmaxxxjrib: ok01:11
g0stttyfscker: wtf?01:11
g0stlol01:11
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ttyfsckerg0st:: could question01:11
Jmaxxxjrib: a-ha! why isn't it required for x?01:11
GullstadHow watch all your internett trafic on the terminal?01:11
micahcowansiennalizard: well... then it should have worked, even in oss-mode, shouldn't it have?01:11
g0stGullstad: tcpdump01:12
sharpcan anybody help? my computer is restarting right when grub shows the boot command01:12
ttyfsckercomplain to the developers that they need to at least create a symlink in /usr/java/01:12
siennalizardCvbcAdmin: do you want to pm?01:12
Jmaxxxoh well01:12
g0stGullstad: tcpdump, tethereal01:12
jribJmaxxx: xorg-common has xrgb as a dependency01:12
CvbcAdminsiennalizard, yes please01:12
Zooliegsmi cant use ftp.......if i try to upload to any ftp with any app like gnome-commander and nautilus after the transfer reach 99 or 100 percent it stops.....whats the problem?01:12
CvbcAdminsiennalizard, I wouldn't take too long01:12
CvbcAdminI've sent you a couple of lines through the pm01:12
geokokcan anybody send me mercury+JVM from here http://www.mercury.to/index.php?page=Downloads (the linux version) cause the HTTP does not work and I cant use torrent in the uni01:12
Petri_Lsiennalizard micahcowna: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1882301:13
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micahcowanPetri_L: did you ever have sound working/does ubuntu startup with some "cool" sounds?01:14
Twish`how can i edit ubuntu kernel?01:15
siennalizardCvbcAdmin: are you registered and identify-ed with freenode? I haven't had your pm come through.01:15
ttyfsckerTwish`:: you need the kernel sources.. and its not something you normally should have to do..01:16
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ttyfsckerTwish`:: what is your reason for wanting to create your own kernel?01:16
Twish`i want to setup interent connection01:16
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bimberi!kernelcompile01:16
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild01:16
ttyfsckerTwish`:: what makes you think that involves the kernel?01:16
Twish`i need to edit adsl parameters01:16
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CvbcAdminsiennalizard, no I'm not registered01:16
CvbcAdminhow do I do that?01:17
CvbcAdminI've sent you a bunch of lines through pm01:17
Petri_Lmicahcowan: I have shut those sounds off but yes I have sound but I can't have more than one program at the time that uses the sound and sometimes nothing01:17
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GlassCasketCould someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies01:17
siennalizardCvbcAdmin: read up on /msg nickserv help01:17
siennalizardCvbcAdmin: can't remember offhand.01:17
CvbcAdminok01:17
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CvbcAdminI can read your messages though01:17
andriijashow do i uninstall java 1.4.2 ??01:18
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micahcowanPetri_L: is xmms currently set to eSound Output?01:18
Twish`is is true that ubuntu comes without gtk and qt libraries?01:18
tuxxohi01:18
Petri_Lmicahcowna: yes01:18
micahcowanPetri_L: perhaps try logging out completely, and then back in again?01:18
crimsunTwish`: since ubuntu uses gnome, which is based on gtk+, that's highly unlikely.01:18
siennalizardCvbcAdmin: accept you can't type back. No matter. I'll start a new channel. See you in linux-server01:18
ttyfsckerPetri_L:: xmms likes to use up all of your sound channels.. especially when using alsa output..01:19
crimsunTwish`: since kubuntu uses kde, which is based on qt, that's also highly unlikely.01:19
micahcowanttyfscker: but not if it's using esd...01:19
nickuuIs there any way to change a windows boot device without going through BIOS ?01:19
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ttyfsckermicahcowan:: yea it does sometimes01:19
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prophetwhat was that art package that you can browse for themes i had it but reinstalled i forgot the command01:19
Petri_LAll helping me: Okay brb =)01:19
micahcowanttyfscker: I though esd makes that more-or-less impossible (provided everything uses it)01:19
ttyfsckeruse esd.. and see if your sound through vmware works micahcowan01:19
Twish`then i send kernel source from kernel.org and tried to compile using qconfig or gconfig it says that i havent gtk/qt libraries installed01:19
micahcowandon't have vmware :-(01:20
andriijashow do i uninstall java 1.4.2? please01:20
Sleeping_Slothhow do I run a new kernel I have downloaded with synaptic?01:20
micahcowanAnyway, vmware probably doesn't use esd. Everything has to use esd for that to work.01:20
micahcowanThe first thing to use /dev/dsp gets all of it. :-(01:20
rpedroprophet: go here instead >> art.gnome.org01:20
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siennalizardSleeping_Sloth: when you next boot up, select it in grub01:20
Zooliegsmi cant use ftp.......if i try to upload to any ftp with any app like gnome-commander and nautilus after the transfer reach 99 or 100 percent it stops.....whats the problem?01:20
Sleeping_Slothsiennalizard: it doesnt appear.... have I missed something?01:20
ttyfsckermicahcowan:: i think its more or less just xmms..01:20
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propheti know about that there was another thing i got via apt-get but i dont remember the name of it01:20
rpedroprophet: one sec01:21
jrib!themes01:21
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy01:21
ttyfsckermicahcowan:: i can use banshee, rhythmbox, or anything else and sound works fine with vmware01:21
Sleeping_SlothI am using -k8 and I want to move to k8-smp because I _believe_ it has NUMA support01:21
livingdaylightsiennalizard: ok, not sure how to add that commercial repo01:21
prophetit was calle dlike gnome art manager or something01:21
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micahcowanHuh. And that's with the eSound plugin active?01:21
smoTwish`: you likely don't have -dev packages to match the libraries.  try apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev or libgtk2.0-dev (depending what gconfig is asking for)01:21
ttyfsckeryea01:21
rpedroprophet: sudo apt-get install gnome-art01:21
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prophetyeahh thanks pedro01:22
micahcowanweird.01:22
Gio2ksynaptic can't connect to the internet repositories, i am behind a proxy and have already put the proxy information on network preferences, but it won't connect, can someone help me?01:22
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chokesit have a guide for optimizing the memory usage in dapper?01:22
Twish`is there a channel discusing how to install adsl pppoe?01:23
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micahcowanPetri_L: any luck?01:23
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ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE01:23
Petri_Lmicahcowan: nope01:23
micahcowan:(01:23
GlassCasketCould someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies01:23
prophetanyone from oregon? i tryed #ubuntu-pdx but it doesnt exist01:23
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micahcowanWell, I guess it /is/ time to try another player, then. rhythmbox seems to be widely recommended...01:24
ttyfsckerPetri_L:: does your sound work with other media players?01:24
chokescan someone can tell me plz?01:24
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prophetthey should turn the built in theme manager into the art manager01:25
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Sleeping_Slothsiennalizard: have you got any idea why the k8-smp kernel is not appearing in grub?01:25
Petri_Lttyfscker: Okay now I satrted rythmbox sure sound! then I started vlc mediaplayer and staretd a movie okay sure picture but no sound01:26
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micahcowanPetri_L: had you been able to get sound with that same movie on that same player before?01:26
ttyfsckerpppoeconf  Twish`01:27
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ttyfsckersudo apt-get install pppoeconf01:27
Petri_Lmicahcowan: yes a couple of minutes ago01:27
Petri_L =)01:27
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IceToxjava wasn't made for linux now was it? :-)01:27
ttyfsckerPetri_L:: in vlc, go in your options, and choose advanced.. and see what the sound server is set to01:27
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GlassCasketCould someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies.01:28
Twish`then i do pppoe conf it says that ethernet divise not responding, any ideas?01:28
yggdrasilhello, is there any way in ubuntu to mount a cue/bin file ? like dtools in w32 ?01:28
ttyfsckerTwish`::  what does ifconfig  show you?01:29
micahcowanyggdrasil, an ISO image binary?01:29
ttyfsckerdont paste it all.. just the device such as eth0 or eth101:29
Sleeping_Slothcan anyone suggest why an installed kernel might not be shown in grub?01:29
yggdrasilits a bin/cue sorry.01:29
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yggdrasili guessei ts an iso bin.01:29
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scabootsscawhats hdb1 in gru?01:29
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Agrajagthere are cdrom emulation programs that let you do that, yggdrasil, but it's easier usually to just use bchunk to turn it into an ISO and mount that01:29
Zooliegsmi cant use ftp.......if i try to upload to any ftp with any app like gnome-commander and nautilus after the transfer reach 99 or 100 percent it stops.....whats the problem?01:29
scabootssca*grub01:29
Petri_Lttyfscker: soundserver? didn't find anything01:29
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ttyfsckerhdb1 = partition 1 on hard drive hdb01:29
quithos#ubuntu-br-tradutores01:29
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scabootsscalike in the grub format? (hd?,?)01:30
ttyfsckerPetri_L::  its the click down menu that shows Enlightened Sound Daemon, OSS, and Alsa01:30
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Powerbook`for a new user us ubuntu/kubuntu good?01:30
micahcowanyggdrasil, I think the cue file is unneeded. You can do sudo mount <file> -t iso9660 -o loop <mount point>01:30
micahcowanwhere file is the .bin01:30
yggdrasilok ill give it a shot.01:30
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Powerbook`Is Kubuntu good for a new Linux user?01:31
ttyfsckerPetri_L:: you have to click on the menu and go into the Preferences/Options of VLC  and go to the Sound part.. and click the checkbox that says show advanced options01:31
jribPowerbook`: yes, there is also xubuntu which is good for older systems01:31
Powerbook`I have a new 80gb hd :P01:31
GlassCasketscabootssca: (hd`number of the drive which starts by 0`, `partition number`)01:31
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jribPowerbook`: how much ram?01:31
CrescendoI have two soundcards, one is onboard, the other is PCI... all audio comes out of the PCI card, which is default, but anything in the flash plugin comes out the onboard sound... how do I switch these?01:31
dibblegowhich file(s) do I update to change my DNS settings and search suffixes?01:31
Powerbook`jrib - How do I check with ubuntu live cd?01:31
Powerbook`is there a command?01:31
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Agrajagmicahcowan: that won't work, a .bin file is not an ISO filessytem image01:32
micahcowanyggdrasil, oh, if I read Agrajag's msg and bchunk's description right, then your .bin isn't an iso, and you'll need to convert it first (as he says). Then you'll run my command on the resulting ISO...01:32
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Agrajagyeah01:32
ttyfsckerGlassCasket:: partitions are named starting with 101:32
jribPowerbook`: go to applications > accessories > terminal and type: free -m01:32
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scabootsscawhats the booting partition for windows where hdb is a windows drive?01:32
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quithos#ubuntu-br01:32
scabootsscajust windws01:32
GlassCasketttyfscker: I didnnt say partitions started at 0, I said that the drive starts at 001:32
Powerbook`jrib: 495 mb01:33
Powerbook`is ther good?01:33
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NickyChicHi, i am trying to install ubuntu on my system which is currently win XP but when i boot up with the live CD, it wont run. Any ideas how to fix that or start the install through windows?01:33
Powerbook`that*01:33
Petri_Lttyfscker: eeh not sure Audio output module: standard01:33
ttyfsckerGlassCasket::  what do you mean the drive starts at 001:33
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GlassCasketttyfscker: hd0, hd1, hd2...01:33
ttyfsckerPetri_L::  is that a drop down box?01:33
jribPowerbook`: yep both ubuntu and kubuntu should run fine for you, just install the one you like the best (you should be able to test both using the live cd)01:33
ttyfsckerGlassCasket:: thats not right..01:33
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GlassCasketttyfscker: Do you have an ide or sata drive?01:33
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marcus__hi im having trouble getting other folders to show up under public_html01:33
ttyfsckerGlassCasket:: its hda1 /sda101:33
NickyChicIt runs when i open it in windows, just not booting the live OS01:34
jordanCan somebody help me?01:34
ttyfsckerwhere a is the first drive recognized to the system01:34
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jrib!ask01:34
ttyfsckerits not hd001:34
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:34
GlassCasketttyfscker: It is when you're in the Grub prompt01:34
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ttyfscker0,0 = hda101:34
jordanHow can i install ie6 in winetools without accsess to the download.microsoft website01:34
jordanMy provider blocks it01:34
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Petri_Lttyfscker: you mean what it shows under the dropdown box?: Archive, ALsa, Oss01:35
SuperMiguelhello01:35
johnny_how do i get mozilla mplayer to be my default web streaming player?01:35
ttyfsckerPetri_L::  change it to OSS or Enlightened Sound Daemon01:35
sktxjordan: why would you want to install ie6 under linux???01:35
SuperMigueli have a .tgz file in my desktop how can i tell the terminal that look in the desktop01:35
marcus__hi im having trouble getting other folders to show up under public_html (my user apache folder)01:35
ttyfsckerPetri_L::  apply the changes and then try to see if it works01:35
jribPowerbook`: be sure to check out help.ubuntu.com too.  These are the manuals that you have in the help menu, but online01:35
jordanBecause im using wine for some things that need it and also Some websites are IE only01:35
jordanBut ie sux01:36
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GlassCasketttyfscker: But when you're configuring your grub.conf or whatever, you always put (hd`drive number`, `partitions number`)01:36
johnny_i'm having trouble watching video on the web01:36
johnny_can someone help01:36
marcus__!restrictedformats01:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:37
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johnny_i have mozilla-mplayer installed but it doesnt show up01:37
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jordan...01:37
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gammais there a page out there that says how my /home directory should be structured? I noticed Gnome apps use Documents and Pictures.. are there any other directories names i should use to take full advantage of gtk-file-chooser?01:37
ttyfsckerjohnny_:: do you have mozplugger ?01:37
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johnny_not sure01:37
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SuperMiguelhow can i access to my desktop from the terminal01:37
ttyfsckerapt-get it01:37
johnny_what all do i need to get mozzila-mplayer to work?01:38
johnny_is that part of it?01:38
Ronzwhat are the commands to add different parameters to glxgears?01:38
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kitsuneofdoomI'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper (AMD64) on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software-acceleration OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?01:38
GlassCasketRonz: I believe doing `man glxgears` will give you all of its parameters01:38
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ttyfsckerjohnny_:: i dont think its part of mozilla-mplayer.. but it will let you use external apps inside firefox/mozilla to playback audio/video01:38
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prophetfirefox now broke it worked fine now when i click on it the spinning wheel comes up and then after 5 sec it disappears and firefox doesnt launch01:39
yggdrasilAgrajag whats that bchunk cmd ?01:39
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gregg__kitsuneofdoom: software opengl is never accelerated :)01:39
johnny_alright01:39
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Agrajagyggdrasil: oh I don't know exactly, I haven't used it in years01:39
kitsuneofdoomgregg__: I can't get opengl to work period01:39
johnny_how to i set mplayer as the default ttyfscker01:39
AgrajagDid you read the bchunk manual? It should tell you what to do01:39
ConfuZed....01:40
gregg__kitsuneofdoom: are you running the amd64 version of ubuntu?01:40
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ConfuZedIs my goal possible01:40
kitsuneofdoomgregg__: yes01:40
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ttyfsckerjohnm:: unless you have xine installed mozilla will default to mplayer for the appropriate media type01:40
Petri_Lttyfscker: no change oh I just rememberd somethign I have a friend who said I was missing somthing called /dev/snd/seq if that has anything to do with it01:40
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kitsuneofdoomgregg__: I mentioned this in the big problem statement01:40
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gregg__kitsuneofdoom: the binary drivers work OK on my HP nx6125 (Mobile Sempron, same chipset)01:40
johnmttyfscker: thanks for letting me know ;)01:41
johnny_well i have mozilla installed but when i try to watch commedy central no media player will show up01:41
GlassCasketCould someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies.01:41
pjwHi all, During my system loads, between the start of Linux and login I have to wait long time. Do you have this problem? English isn't the first language so my sentences can include mistakes.01:41
gregg__kitsuneofdoom: well, could have been that you just wanted to point out which kind of processor you have...01:41
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kitsuneofdoomgregg__: understandable.01:41
prophetfirefox opens when i use the sudo command but now when i double click on it?01:41
songoI cant burn a dvd-rw, who's able to burn dvds?01:41
gregg__kitsuneofdoom: anyway, works fine with x86 (32 bit) ubuntu for me01:41
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ttyfsckerprophet:: you are using a bad plugin for the user most likely01:42
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Sleeping_SlothI need a little help with using a new kernel01:42
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prophethow do i remove the plugin i think its "faster fox"01:42
ttyfsckerprophet:: did you install java since it quit working?01:42
kitsuneofdoomgregg__: well, do you have a 64-bit processor?01:42
ttyfsckerfaster fox?01:42
yggdrasilagrajag thanks01:42
prophetyeah i installed easyubuntu java but worked for alittle01:42
Sleeping_SlothI'm using synaptic, and there is no linux-image for the kernel i have installed....??01:42
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prophetwhere do the plugins resizide01:43
ttyfsckerprophet:: your plugins are stored in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins  and /home/username/.mozilla/plugins/01:43
kitsuneofdoomSleeping_Sloth: did you make your own kernel?01:43
coachJanyone know what can I use to open .CDR (corel) files?01:43
prophetwhy so many places01:43
gregg__kitsuneofdoom: no. but I could simply swap the mobile sempron for a turion to have 64 bit capability...01:43
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prophetaha well nm01:43
Sleeping_Slothkitsuneofdoom: no- I downloaded one with synaptic01:43
ConfuZedhello? Is there a way to install IE6 with no accsess to download.microsoft.com? I Need help bad01:43
ttyfsckerthe /home directory is for user settings   the /usr is global01:43
Sleeping_Slothkitsuneofdoom: but there is no corresponding linux-imge01:43
adI'm running dapper 32, apps don't open windows in the workspace they're started in, they open in the workspace you switch 2 after execution - is there any way to reverse this?01:43
prophetwhat plugin do u think is doing it01:44
yggdrasilagrajac one think im not cealr on. heres my cmd do i have to append .iso at the end? bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo01:44
d33tAnyone know anything about ices/icecast? Specifically if the ices version matters when streaming from ALSA or OSS.....01:44
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Agrajagyggdrasil: it can't hurt, I suppose01:44
yggdrasilhmm. ok01:44
yggdrasiltahnks01:44
ttyfsckerprophet:: do this ls /home/yourusername/.mozilla/plugins/01:44
gregg__kitsuneofdoom: and, from what I've heard so far, ubuntu amd64 causes a lot of problems so that you are usually better of using the 32 bit version01:44
prophetill just unhide them01:44
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ddonkyanyone use a sirius s50 with ubuntu?01:44
ttyfsckerprophet:: tell me what results that returns.. be sure you put your current username in that01:44
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johnny_i have mozilla-mplayer and mozplugger installed but i still dont get any video01:45
johnny_any idea?01:45
GlassCasketCould someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies.01:45
speedywhats a good clustering tool for load-balancing?01:45
ttyfsckerjohnm:: type in about:plugins   in your browsers URL field01:45
d33thrm, how about this, anyone have *any* icecast/ices experience?01:46
ttyfsckerjohnny_:: i meant01:46
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Agrajagicecast yes, ices no01:46
prophetthwere is no plugin in .mozilla01:46
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d33thrm...... what do you use to stream to icecast?01:46
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Agrajagmpd01:46
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johnny_and what am i looking for ttyfscker01:46
ttyfsckerprophet:: launche the command firefox from the terminal01:46
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ttyfsckersee what it gives you01:46
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prophetnothing happens it just creates a new blank line01:47
propheti tryed01:47
Twish`when i do pppoeconf, it found eth0 and then scans for the my isp concentrator, but not found ;(, any ideas?01:47
wanglin-sirhi,when I run "update-rc.d fcitx defaults" command line,it tell me "System startup links for /etc/init.d/fcitx already exist.01:47
wanglin-sir"  but where is the links????01:47
prophetif i do sudo firefox it work01:47
prophets01:47
bnsijohnny_, you can always try easyubuntu, usually sorts out the streaming and embedded video for me01:47
ttyfsckerjohnny_:: do you have the mozplugger /mplayer plugins listed in about:plugins01:47
prophetits like its a premissions issues01:47
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d33tAgrajag, this just another media player?01:47
kitsuneofdoomI'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper AMD64 on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software-acceleration OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?01:47
Agrajagyeah pretty much01:47
Petri_LSo I guess my problem is a lost cause?01:47
johnny_yes ttyfscker01:47
ttyfsckerjohnny_:: they should be working then01:48
d33tlooks cool, i'll give it a spin. need anything special to get it to talk to icecast?01:48
Agrajagyeah, you might have to build the latest version from SVN01:48
AgrajagI don't know if any official version contains icecast support yet01:48
johnny_wait01:48
johnny_mozplugger is listed01:48
johnny_but it doesnt show enabled : yes like the others01:48
prophetstarting firefox.... then it disappears01:48
adare there extensions or scripts for gnome on dapper?01:48
d33thrm..... looking to stick to the packages. i'll get it from the repository and see what happens I guess01:49
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d33tworth a shot right01:49
gregg__kitsuneofdoom: my advice, as I already told you: use ubuntu x8601:49
wanglin-sirjohnny_,01:49
wanglin-sirI have a question01:49
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wanglin-sirhelp me01:49
Agrajagd33t: http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Icecast_and_Musicpd this is for freebsd but the same information applies01:49
Agrajagespecially in regards to the configuration file01:49
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johnny_i'll try wanglin-sir01:49
wanglin-sir,when I run "update-rc.d fcitx defaults" command line,it tell me "System startup links for /etc/init.d/fcitx already exist.01:49
wanglin-sirwanglin-sir "  but where is the links????01:49
Agrajagd33t: you can try the package but I don't think it'll work. Never know.01:49
d33ti'll check it out, thanks01:50
d33tyeah, i have my doubts01:50
d33tbut i rather not compile things if i don't have to01:50
mehdiHI All :)01:50
johnny_i'm not sure01:50
coachJanyone know what can I use to open .CDR (corel) files?01:50
Sleeping_Slothanyone know how I go about using the k8-smp kernel?01:50
ttyfsckerjohnny_:: do you not have a big long list of files below the mozplugger part?01:50
wanglin-sirthanks01:50
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CrescendoI have two soundcards, one is onboard, the other is PCI... all audio comes out of the PCI card, which is default, but anything in the flash plugin comes out the onboard sound... how do I switch these?01:50
kitsuneofdoomgregg__: Thank you for your advice, but I'd rather not01:50
AgrajagcoachJ: is that an image file, or text document, or what?01:50
coachJimage01:51
Agrajagif it's an image you might want to try gimp01:51
gregg__kitsuneofdoom: ok01:51
bnsicoachJ XnView might do it01:51
coachJgimp didnt open01:51
johnny_no ttyfscker01:51
coachJok01:51
johnny_it just says mozplugger and there are three sections01:51
prophetyeah it still doenst work01:51
Twish`what to do if pppoe conf didnt fount access concentration (i have internal adsl modem AcessRunner)01:51
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ttyfsckerjohnny im going to pm you01:52
mehdi01:52
gregg__kitsuneofdoom: but why not? AMD64 doesn't have any real benefits at the moment (besides being incredibly cool)01:52
johnny_k01:52
bnsicoachJ http://perso.orange.fr/pierre.g/xnview/enformats.html01:52
coachJthks01:52
Sleeping_Slothis anyone here running the k8-smp kernel?01:53
kitsuneofdoomgregg__: not true...math processing is faster01:53
snoopsgregg__ interesting how amd just bought ati01:53
mehdii have a question01:53
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coachJbnsi:thks looks like that is the one01:53
GlassCasketCould someone please help me install ndisgtk? I read the wiki but it won't install because I keep missing dependencies.01:53
coachJbut not in a repos i have01:54
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bnsicoachJ unfortunately not, you're going to have to download it from the site01:54
gregg__kitsuneofdoom: yeah... but not that much, especially not if the software hasn't been optimized for 64 bit processors01:54
coachJyep01:54
mehdiafter i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.01:55
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mehdiplease help me01:55
gregg__64bit might be important if you habve lotsa and lotsa of RAM... but I don't see many more reasons for it ATM01:55
kitsuneofdoomgregg__: It will, eventually, and ATi has released 64 drivers, so that's not the problem01:55
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gregg__ATT's drivers are shit, as usual (and the 64bit ones even more!), so it IS a problem :)01:56
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adrian__bye all01:56
Twish`how to patch the kernel?01:56
prophetanymore suggestions on why firefox doesnt launch01:56
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adrian__patch -p1 < patch.diff01:57
a2xmhi all, can I just reinstall ubuntu to fix my broken GRUB? pls help...01:57
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jribprophet: killall firefox-bin; firefox01:57
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kitsuneofdoomgregg__: Well,01:57
adrian__a2xm: no, try grub-install and read /boot/grub/01:57
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mehdiafter i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.01:57
kitsuneofdoomgregg__: all ATi drivers are shit anyway01:57
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adrian__kitsuneofdoom: true ;-)01:57
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kitsuneofdoomgregg__: I would have gotten a Nvidia if I could01:58
prophetjrib i restarted and it still does it its not running in the bg01:58
a2xmadrian__: grub-install using grub shell right? i've try it and failed.01:58
jribprophet: firefox -safe-mode, does this work?01:58
gregg__kitsuneofdoom: same here01:58
GlassCasketa2xm: What error do you get?01:58
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a2xmadrian__: btw, are you from indonesia?01:58
ttyfsckeri've got a Nvidia FX 5500 AGP thats brand new if anyone is interested in buying it cheap01:58
adrian__a2xm: no, from poland ;-)01:58
a2xmGlassCasket: error 1701:58
gregg__the x200m chipset itself isn't bad at all... actually it is the fastest IGP chipset01:58
prophetyes01:59
propheti starts in safemode01:59
GlassCasketa2xm: Could you describe your setup please? Like how many hardrives you have, are they ide or sata?01:59
Twish`what to do what ubuntu detects my gtk+ libraries while i do make gconfig command?01:59
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jribprophet: I can't remember, can you remove extensions that way?01:59
wanglin-sirwhen I run "apt-get install stardict01:59
wanglin-sir"01:59
adrian__a2xm: show error :] 02:00
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adrian__a2xm: from grub-install --no-floppy /dev/hda02:00
a2xmGlassCasket: just 1 IDE drive (hda).02:00
prophetYES jrib it was the stupid Fast Fox plugin!! thanks02:00
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GlassCasketa2xm: grub-install /dev/hda02:00
jribprophet: np02:00
gregg__fasterfox? works OK for me :)02:01
a2xmGlassCasket: from where?02:01
GlassCasketa2xm: From the console02:01
a2xmGlassCasket: live CD?02:01
adrian__02:00 < adrian__> a2xm: from grub-install --no-floppy /dev/hda02:01
livingdaylightwhoever gave me the unofficial wiki or Dapper starter guide - THANK YOU02:01
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wanglin-sirwhen I run "apt-get install stardict" it show not find the stardict , how to ?02:01
GlassCasketa2xm: Are you in Windows, right now?02:01
adrian__a2xm: use acronics os selector :-)02:01
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jribwanglin-sir: you need to enable universe02:01
a2xmGlassCasket: kubuntu live CD02:01
jrib!universe > wanglin-sir02:02
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rafahi everyone02:02
Marco99Is there a way to make skip forward and backward to work in streams?02:02
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GlassCasketa2xm: Are your Ubuntu partitions mounted?02:02
jribMarco99: mplayer seems to do that for some streams02:02
scabootsscahow do i totally uninstall grub and then reiunstall it?02:02
wanglin-sirjrib, how to do ?02:02
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kitsuneofdoomI'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper AMD64 on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?02:02
a2xmGlassCasket: i'll make it02:02
Marco99what about for asx streams?02:03
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gregg__Marco99: it's not possible for "live" streams02:03
wanglin-sirjrib, i am newer02:03
jribwanglin-sir: ubotu should have sent you some info in a private message, did you get it?02:03
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VegaObscura!mount02:03
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks02:03
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wanglin-sirjrib ,i have no read it02:03
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Twish`!pppoe02:03
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE02:03
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adhey people, busy here tonight - if anyone knows about customizing gnome I'd be appreciative :)02:03
bnsi!bum02:03
ubotuBoot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto02:03
Marco99Is it possible to play asx streams in Kaffeine?02:03
jribwanglin-sir: just follow the directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories02:03
jrib!themes > ad02:03
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wanglin-sirjrib, thanks02:04
adjrib: how do i find !themes?02:04
jribad: check your private messages from ubotu02:04
sergioi am trying to update a 5.10 ubuntu to 6.06, but i keep getting the message that there are no new upgrades, anyone can help?02:04
gnomefreakad: read yoru pm02:04
mehdihi all -- . i have a question02:04
mehdiafter i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.02:04
Marco99gregg__: Is it possible to play asx streams in Kaffeiene?02:05
metalheddI'm trying to set up my tv-out on my nvidia card, it keeps limiting my monitor res to 1024x768 and treating the tv kinda like an extension to the current desktop, mouse goes off the right hand side and it shows up on the TV.  are there other ways to configure it that won't limit me to 1024x768?02:05
adjrib: I had that once beore - is ubotu a bot or some special user?02:05
a2xmGlassCasket: ok. mounted my ubuntu partition02:05
gnomefreakad: bot02:05
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gregg__Marco99: it should work, but I'm not entirely sure02:05
jrib!ubotu02:05
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:05
VegaObscuracan someone tell me how to mount my partitions?02:05
GlassCasketa2xm: Do `sudo grub-install /dev/hda02:05
limes24when I ran a Ubuntu live CD on my iBook G3/500, it recongnized my AirPort wireless card automatically and allowed me to set it up. it also had a battery monitor in the upper-right system tray. On the Xubuntu live CD I'm running now, it can't find a network device for the AirPort card, and there's no battery monitor. should I find and install these things (how?) or just install ubuntu?02:05
GlassCasket!ubotu mount02:06
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks02:06
adjrib: does it automatically respond to keywords?02:06
VegaObscuraadministration -> disks doesnt let me mount them02:06
prophetwhere is the option to turn off the login screen02:06
jribad: yes, he's invoked with a !02:06
Twish`is here anyone who uses adsl AccessRunner pppoe modem?02:06
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jribad: you can also just /msg him for info, for example: /msg ubotu themes02:06
adjrib: so would go !xinerama for example?02:06
GlassCasketVegaObscura: You have to create a mount point, then mount it. (eg. sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu /dev/drivehere)02:07
ad!xinerama02:07
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo02:07
adsweet02:07
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VegaObscuralast night someone showed me something about downloading a script then activating it02:07
Twish`the only thing left - to setup internet connection, and i delete windows forever02:07
VegaObscuraand it worked perfect02:07
mehdiafter i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.02:07
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adjrib: how do u send ubotu output to someone?02:07
javiolohi02:08
a2xmGlassCasket: that's sudo grub-install [ubuntu partition]  right?02:08
javioload !tell nick about something02:08
jribad: !factoid > someone               you can read the wiki page ubotu said before about usage for more advance stuff02:08
gooniesrhythmbox and ipod is real nice02:08
a2xmGlassCasket: sudo grub-install /dev/hda502:08
adjrib: top, thanx02:08
Twish`who can help me with setting up internal accessRunner adsl modem? :)02:08
VegaObscurawhen i do sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu /dev/hda1 it says file exists02:08
GlassCasketa2xm: Correct, but you only have to put in the hardrive I believe02:09
a2xmGlassCasket: i'm using dual boot with win xp02:09
adjaviolo: hey, i'll have a go02:09
a2xmGlassCasket: my win xp is on hda102:09
a2xmGlassCasket: is that OK?02:09
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GlassCasketa2xm: Yes.02:09
VegaObscura!mountntfs02:09
ubotuI know nothing about mountntfs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:09
yggdrasilagrajac binchunk made 2 isos and one mount but the other doesnt02:10
limes24!AirPort02:10
Twish`i almost lost the hope to have fully working ubuntu with internet connection ;(02:10
ubotuI know nothing about AirPort - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:10
yggdrasilagrajac binchunk made 2 isos and one mount but the other doesnt. and i can mount the first one but not the second one.02:10
metalheddubuntuuser02:10
ad!gnome > ad02:11
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yggdrasilscrew it im just just gonna plug in the dvd  burner and burn this thing.02:12
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javiolo!rar02:12
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression02:12
a2xmGlassCasket: this's what i got:02:12
a2xmubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda502:12
a2xmProbing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.02:12
a2xmCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.02:12
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metalhedd!twinview02:12
ubotuI know nothing about twinview - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:12
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mehdican anyone answer my question please!!!02:12
mehdi!GP02:12
ubotuI know nothing about GP - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:12
GlassCasketa2xm: Do `sudo grub-install /dev/hda`02:12
Paladinemetalhead man nvidia-xconfig02:12
nickuuI have the ubuntu install disc in my cd drive but it wont boot on restart02:12
VegaObscuraim having the exact same problem a2xm02:12
nickuu!install02:13
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues02:13
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a2xmadrian__: i'm using this to reinstall my grub http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Re-install_Grub_with_Live_CD02:13
cyber_brain_mfkghi02:13
VegaObscurahi02:13
mehdican anyone answer my question please!!!02:13
mehdi!after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.02:13
ubotuI know nothing about after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:13
cyber_brain_mfkgis anyone using kvirc on ubuntu?02:13
cyber_brain_mfkgi cannot compile it02:13
cyber_brain_mfkg:(((02:13
a2xmadrian__: and failed on the last 3 lines of setup grub02:14
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Flannelcyber_brain_mfkg: it's in the repositories, why compile?02:14
VegaObscuraa2xm, i am having the EXACT same problem02:14
cyber_brain_mfkgwhere can i find it?02:14
VegaObscuraand its being a *inpolite word*02:14
ai`Hi.  I came in here earlier with a problem regarding the Mac LiveCD and file truncation.  My problem's really weird -- are there any Mac experts around?02:14
a2xmVegaObscura: grub error 17?02:14
VegaObscurayes02:14
Flannelcyber_brain_mfkg: it's in universe02:14
VegaObscuraand also the other error when trying to do chroot02:15
VegaObscuraand if i try and reinstall ubuntu02:15
VegaObscurait seems to recognize my hard drive as full of unallocated space02:15
cyber_brain_mfkgFlannel: hm... i'm kinda new in linux world02:15
VegaObscurabut it actually has 3 partitions on it, 2 windows and 1 ubuntu02:15
cyber_brain_mfkgcan u explain me?02:15
GlassCasketVegaObscura: Is your drive mounted?02:15
Flannel!tell cyber_brain_mfkg about repositories02:15
VegaObscurano not yet02:15
VegaObscurathats what im trying to fix02:16
nickuuI currently have windows installed on a computer - is it possible to delete and the install ubuntu using only the ubuntu CD ?!02:16
VegaObscurai cant seem to mount it02:16
GlassCasketVegaObscura: What error do you get?02:16
Flannelcyber_brain_mfkg: ubotu sent you some links, that'll explain what repositories are, and the second will explain how to add them, both command line, and graphically02:16
VegaObscuralast time i mounted my drives it was really easy02:16
Flannelnickuu: yes02:16
VegaObscurasomeone in here gave me a link to a page, and it gave me the exact commands02:16
VegaObscuraand it mounted all my drives02:16
VegaObscurabut i cant find that page now02:16
nickuuJust boot and start installation Flannel ?02:16
sethknickuu, of course, yes02:16
adnickuu: that should do it02:17
cyber_brain_mfkgFlannel: thanx a lot02:17
adnickuu: what's going wrong?02:17
Flannelnickuu: you want to delete windows entirely?  Yeah.  then you don't have to do anything beforehand02:17
nickuuthankyou:D02:17
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GlassCasketVegaObscura: I may be able to hepl if yoiu give mt he error message.02:17
sethknick58b, it will ask you whether to use the windows space, or not.02:17
nickuubye windows02:17
VegaObscuraim trying to get it, one sec02:17
nickuu:>02:17
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Caprisunhi02:18
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silviojk02:18
VegaObscurait may cause flooding, as it is several lines long02:18
VegaObscurashould i paste it anyway?02:18
VegaObscuraor PM you?02:18
GlassCasketVegaObscura: pastebin.ca02:18
d33tVegaObscura, check out pastebin.com02:18
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VegaObscurayes, what do i do with it?02:19
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GlassCasketpaste it in there ;)02:19
d33theh02:19
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VegaObscuraand then?02:19
d33ti was about to say that02:19
Caprisundoes anyone here know how to setup Proftpd02:19
d33tit will give you a link02:19
ad!tell ad about repositories02:19
d33tpaste that link here02:19
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Caprisuni followed a tut but i still get a 530 ms02:19
Caprisunfor the password02:19
yggdrasilno way in linux to mount a bin/cue image ?02:19
VegaObscurapastebin gives me a php error02:20
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d33tyggdrasil - check out http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/02:21
VegaObscuracan someone give me the exact command to mount my drive? its ntfs02:21
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VegaObscuraor all of them at once would be nice, as i have 302:21
yggdrasilwill k3b burn a bin/cue ?02:21
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d33tyggdrasil - don't think so....02:21
yggdrasil:(02:21
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d33tcheck out cdemu02:21
d33tit's pretty easy to use02:22
javiolohow do I decompress 3 zips file that are cutted02:22
GlassCasketVegaObscura: Try `mkdir /mnt/ntfs1 && mount -t ntfs /dev/your_drive_here /mnt/nfts1`02:22
javiololike 1.zip 2.zip and 3.zip02:22
tristanmikeyggdrasil: i think k3b will burn a cue file02:22
d33tVegaObscura, i don't think you can write to ntfs, but you can read from it02:22
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d33tunless they bettered the driver02:22
Powerbook`What is better for a begginer: Kubuntu or Ubuntu?02:22
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linuxn00b2006i installed Wine from the add/remove programs but its not available anywhere so i can run it02:22
club-b42gentoo)02:23
jribjaviolo: try just unzipping the first one (that's how rar works)02:23
GlassCasketPowerBook`: It's al about preference.02:23
d33tyggdrasil - you trying to burn a VCD?02:23
tristanmikeVegaObscura: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions02:23
javiolojrib that doesnt seems to work, it only extracts the first zip not the whole file02:23
fasttPowerbook`, they're both about the same... i recommend gnome so go with ubuntu dapper02:23
Twish`what to do if pppoe conf didnt found access concentration (i have internal adsl modem AcessRunner)02:23
VegaObscuraYES THANK YOU!!!!!02:23
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yggdrasild33t i guesse thats what it is.02:23
VegaObscurathats what ive been looking for =)02:23
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mehdiI cant connect to intenet Help Me!!!02:23
tristanmikeyggdrasil: it has the option for cue file, but I don't have one handy to test02:23
VegaObscurayou uh... are on the internet <<;02:24
d33theh, you should know what you're burning. not all bin/cue files are VCD02:24
yggdrasild33t im trying to not burn it if theres any way.02:24
Twish`mehdi me too ;(02:24
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yggdrasild33t .02:24
d33tif it's a VCD, you can't just mount it02:24
d33tit's not a normal filesystem02:24
mehdi!after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.02:24
ubotuI know nothing about after i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:24
mehdiafter i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.02:24
yggdrasild33t. im thinking of rebooting into windows :( .. im sorry everyone. please forgive me.02:24
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d33theh, that's ok. BTW< check out vcdgear if you do02:24
tristanmikeyggdrasil: what's the problem ?02:25
jribjaviolo: my other guess would be to list them, but you've probably tried that02:25
dwhsixI have a dvd of video that I have rights to... is there any tool in ubuntu I can use to extract clips from it and write to a new dvd?02:25
d33tit'll turn bin/cue into .mpg02:25
d33tfor VCDs02:25
GlassCasketyggdrasil: Enjoy all the nasty stuff out there .;)02:25
d33tthey have a linux port too02:25
yggdrasild33t ? for linux ?02:25
d33thttp://www.vcdgear.com/download.html02:25
CrescendoOkay, removed the second sound card for my better judgement of NOT needing it.  Now I have two audio devices when adjusting volume... what is the difference between ALSA and OSS mixers?02:25
javiolojrib list them ?02:25
fasttanyone know which repositary i can find libsvg-cairo (>= 0.1.6) ?02:25
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yggdrasiltristanmike i just got . a bin/cue vdr file. that um. i dont wanna burn i jsut wanna extract the file and have it on my storeage02:25
javiolo!libsvg-cairo02:25
ubotuI know nothing about libsvg-cairo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:25
prophetwhats lime wire in linux02:26
tristanmikeyggdrasil: ahh, I see02:26
yggdrasild33t im tring the website. i refuse to go back to w3202:26
jribjaviolo: like 'unzip file1.zip file2.zip ...', by the way the split rar only works when I use the command line and use the first one02:26
d33theh, you will need to compile that though......02:26
yggdrasiljust for the record k3b wont do it02:26
d33tbut it works really well02:26
yggdrasilhmm ok not bigie02:26
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javiolojrib ok02:26
tristanmikejaviolo: that sounds like an xgl package02:26
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fasttit si02:27
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fasttis02:27
fastti'm trying to install compiz02:27
khaleddo i need to confidure a firewall on my Ubuntu ???02:27
jrib!firewall02:27
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)02:27
javiolotristanmike dont know whats for, someone asked for it02:27
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mehdiMy error:(111 Connection refused)02:27
tristanmikejaviolo: I see that now, sorry02:27
mehdiafter i setup some programs i'cant connect to websites by firefox.but X-CHAT can connect.02:27
fasttapparently  libsvg-cairo (>= 0.1.6) is a dependancy and i've got 0.1.5 installed at the moment02:27
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tristanmikefastt: so you just need the repo line ?02:27
javiolo!firestarter > khaled02:27
d33tanyone have experience using ices (or anything else)? i want to stream from the sound device...... mpd was kinda goofy02:27
ion_bidonhello, anyone knows how I can enable the use of X applications from a console as root ?02:28
dwhsix!dvd02:28
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:28
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fastttristanmike, yeah i've got the ones on the wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz02:28
khaledI am freshman in the linux world, so can u give me a link to a tutorial on how to configure the firewall?02:28
a2xmGlassCasket: I got this:02:28
a2xmsudo grub-install /dev/hda02:28
a2xmCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.02:28
yggdrasild33t ill compile it before il ever give in.!!! pirates of the carribean deserves no better.02:28
yggdrasiluh or better02:28
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ion_bidonI've got Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server when I try to run a X application as root02:28
d33thehe, nice download02:28
GlassCasketa2xm: Is the drive mounted?02:29
Powerbook`why do people like gnome better? Kde seems easier for a begginer (me) :@02:29
neutrinomassion_bidon : You mean start the X app as root from a terminal emulator started as a normal user ?02:29
jribPowerbook`: just personal preference02:29
ion_bidonneutrinomass: exactly02:29
khaledi am the most begginer one in this room and i like gnome better02:29
a2xmGlassCasket: grub-install [mounted partition]  ?02:29
Powerbook`jrib: is there any advantage of gnome?02:29
d33tyggdrasil, i used to use that in windows all the time..... works well. the linux one i've used once, worked well there too. I haven't downlaoded a movie in a whle though....02:29
Powerbook`why khaled?02:29
GlassCasketa2xm: Do `mount` and paste the output at pastebin.com02:29
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khaledI think it is more neat02:30
fasttPowerbook`, try them both and see what you like best. I don't think you will find that either of them bite too hard. Don't live in fear of being a beginner - k/ubuntu is your friend :-)02:30
tristanmikefastt: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?02:30
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d33tPowerbook`, it's just a preference. kde is very much like windows, gnome is a little different but neither is better or worse02:30
khaledand less than windows, and this is advan for me :)02:30
ion_bidonneutrinomass: any idea I could try ?02:30
d33ti like openbox myself02:30
fastttristanmike, did that...02:30
mehdiI cant connect to intenet Help Me!!!02:30
a2xmGlassCasket: my /dev/hda5 mounted on /mnt/hda502:30
pab1hello all, how can I tell if I have firefox 32bit or 64 bit installed02:30
d33tbut gnome works so well02:30
jribPowerbook`: not really, just a different environment, each has its pros and cons.  And remember you can run gnome apps in kde and kde apps in gnome02:30
tristanmikefastt: you should ask in #ubuntu-xgl, that's where the gurus reside02:30
neutrinomassion_bidon: gksudo ?02:30
javiolojrib unzip 1.zip 2.zip 3.zip it says archive 1.zip caution filename 2.zip 3.zip not matched02:31
neutrinomassion_bidon: gksudo <command>02:31
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fastttristanmike, ok02:31
Powerbook`i think ill use kubuntu - it seems better for me :@02:31
ion_bidonneutrinomass: does the same thing as sudo ...02:31
fasttPowerbook`, good luck02:31
jribjaviolo: and when you just did unzip 1.zip, it didn't work?02:31
Powerbook`Thank you :)02:31
neutrinomassion_bidon: Have you tried it ?02:31
cyber_brain_mfkgcan i use synaptic to download and install universe files???02:31
ion_bidonneutrinomass: yes02:31
cyber_brain_mfkgcan i use synaptic to download and install universe files???02:31
fasttAre you installing onto a Powerbook` btw?02:31
GlassCasketa2xm: Try `grep -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab`02:31
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Powerbook`no fastt lol02:32
Powerbook`installing on a windows :@02:32
Powerbook`well02:32
Powerbook`x8602:32
neutrinomassion_bidon: It's supposed to work :-/ You do have X running right ?02:32
fastt:-)02:32
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ion_bidonneutrinomass: yes :)02:32
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mehdi!firefox02:32
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins02:32
fasttPowerbook`, glad you corrected yourself.... you're certainly not installing ubuntu on a windows!!02:32
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neutrinomassion_bidon: I'm really under the impression that it should work. Can you please try gksudo again?02:33
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mehdi!opera02:33
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.02:33
cyber_brain_mfkgFlannel: can i use synaptic to download and install universe files??? not to use ftp!!!???02:33
neutrinomassion_bidon: You haven't done an expert install by any chance right (i.e. sudo works doesn't it? )?02:33
ion_bidonneutrinomass: I did and it does not work, because I have in the sudoers file the name of the application02:33
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ion_bidonneutrinomass: if I erase the app from the sudoers I suppose it works02:33
ion_bidonneutrinomass: but it will ask me for a password each time02:34
khaledhow can i burn and iso image on cd??02:34
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neutrinomassion_bidon: You shouldn't be touching /etc/sudoers. If you want to have sudo privilleges, you want to add yourself to the 'admin' group in /etc/group ...02:34
ion_bidonneutrinomass: I only want sudo privileges on some apps only02:34
neutrinomassion_bidon: And in any case, the name of the app makes no difference....02:34
khaledhow can i burn iso images on cd??02:34
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ion_bidonneutrinomass: ok, well thanks Ill retry a bit02:35
neutrinomassion_bidon: AFAIK that cannot be done...i.e. forbid certain apps from being used with gksudo ...02:35
prophetwhats the command to get the latest repositories02:35
Flannelcyber_brain_mfkg: yes, of course.  You need to add it to your repositories, then use normal apt-get frontends02:35
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riddleboxj #python02:35
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ad!firestarter > ad02:35
neutrinomassion_bidon: You probably have a problem with your sudo configuration... does 'sudo test' work ?02:36
riddleboxoops02:36
cgeIs there some way to get X to print out font loading debugging information in its log?02:36
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ion_bidonneutrinomass: no there is no problem, but I figure out a solution that works : xhost + local:root02:36
ion_bidonneutrinomass: this allows my app to run as root even if in the sudoers file02:36
pab1any one here using the sound blaster audigy??02:37
detienI've been following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperNetworkManager and this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo but still can't get wpa to work02:37
neutrinomassion_bidon: Sorry, I can't really help with sudo+ certain applications. Never heard of that been done before ...02:37
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detienDo I need to have my ssid shown?02:37
ion_bidonneutrinomass: o ok no problem, thanks for your support :)02:38
dibblegowhy after sudo apt-get remove apache2, apache is still running, even after a reboot?02:38
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bigmarcusAnyone here use dynDNS?02:38
ad!ubotu > ad02:38
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ubotuI know nothing about > ad - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:38
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nickersany idea when i can apt-get update?02:39
nickersi am dying02:39
nickersi need thoggen02:39
CrescendoWhat is a good BitTorrent client for Ubuntu?02:39
a2xmGlassCasket:02:39
a2xmsudo grep -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab02:39
a2xmbash: /etc/mtab: Permission denied02:39
threecres: i like ktorrent02:39
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javiolocrescendo I use transmission02:39
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nickersazureus or ctorrent02:39
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neutrinomassa2xm: Yes.... that's normal. Try sudo -i and then give the grep command ...02:40
Flannelnickers: why can't you now?02:40
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dredhammerhello02:40
nickersi have been unable all day to apt-get update...i know the servers were offline02:40
dredhammerso you think there'll be good drivers for linux with this ATI/AMD buy?02:40
CrescendoKtorrent is giving me "too many files open" when opening a torrent with several thousand files...  and I didn't like it.02:40
Flannelnickers: just change your mirror02:40
nickerswhat are you using?02:40
CrescendoAzureus seems too bulky, and more for a windows application.02:40
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javiolocrescendo azureus not just for win02:41
a2xmGlassCasket:02:41
a2xmsudo grep -i -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab02:41
a2xmbash: /etc/mtab: Permission denied02:41
snoopsdredhammer we can hope.. I doubt anything would happen for at least another year02:41
dredhammerthat long?02:41
CrescendoI didn't say it was.02:41
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bigmarcusAnyone here use dynDNS?02:41
CrescendoIt just seems more suitable for a Windows place.02:41
nickersFlannel: what are you using?02:41
nickersctorrent is pretty good if you dont mind console ncurses...combine it with screen and you are all set02:41
javiolobigmarcus I used a few times02:42
nickersazureus is a java application, not a windows application02:42
bigmarcusjaviolo: say I registered for a life time service with a domain say bompper.com I know longer use bompper.com and I want to add my new domain digitizemem.com how would i update it to my new domain02:42
CrescendoI didn't say it was a Windows application only.02:42
CrescendoI....02:42
CrescendoFASDFASFASDF02:42
dredhammerand how can adobe have flash 9 out with no linux update?02:42
CrescendoCtorrent, you say?02:42
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Flannelnickers: archive.ubuntu.com02:42
CrescendoAnd someone else said transmission.02:43
nickersdredhammer: no 9 coming02:43
nickerstransmission is macosx02:43
prophethow do you run rpm files02:43
dredhammerwhat kinda crap is that?02:43
CrescendoCouldn't find package transmission02:43
javiolobigmarcus I used the free service to keep track of one server via internet, but check the config02:43
dredhammermyspace has already migrated to version 902:43
nickersprophet: rpm -ivh but in ubuntu you will need to use alien to convert02:43
bigmarcusya i check cant figure it out ofr the life of me02:43
prophetyeah i read thanks man02:43
nickersdredhammer: flash 9 runs in crossover02:43
threeeff flash has anyone checked it GNash is up and running02:43
threeif gnash*02:44
dredhammerwhat is crossover?02:44
javiolothree I tried to install gnash on a linux ppc and I had many problems02:44
dredhammeris it like wine?02:44
nickersdredhammer: codeweavers.com02:44
nickersyes02:44
dredhammeror vmware?02:44
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pab1can some1 tell me what alsa cvs is?  is it different than standard alsa?02:44
threejaviolo: what kinda problems are they still having?02:45
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nickerspab1: cvs is a system used for developers02:45
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dredhammerI'm trying to lead a linux pure life, i knew i'd have to say goodbye to wmv/wma drm but now about 15% of the web is denied me02:45
nickerspab1: cvs is for syncing files while developers write code02:45
javiolothree dont know the installation didnt worked, maybe it was something with auto-apt02:45
nickerspab1: nothing related to alsa02:45
AngryParsleydredhammer: I just got a mac02:45
a2xmGlassCasket: why not just reisntall the whole ubuntu anyway?02:45
AngryParsleybecause making *NIX user-friendly was easier that making windows not suck02:46
nickersdredhammer: such is life, just read that the flash linux developer is basically throwing in the hate crying like a baby02:46
pab1nickers:  hrrrm does this make any sense then?   "Support for capture is in alsa cvs. You should try it."02:46
nickerspab1: yes makes perfect sense02:46
snoopsdredhammer yeah flash support sucks.. you could use wine with a combination of firefox for windows and flash 9 for it02:46
threejaviolo: ahh, well if I cant apt it I'm not that interested02:46
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nickerspab1: the developer release has support for that function02:46
pab1nickers:  ahhh.  so i think ill need that :)    where should i start?02:46
dredhammerthis is crap02:46
AngryParsleywait, what's going on with flash? I thought a linux version existed02:46
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dredhammersince when has the internet become os specific?02:47
nickerspab1: ever compiled code? go look into a cvs howto...kind of daunting02:47
javiolothree no, I downloaded the code, tried to configured but it needed some libs, and then I run auto-apt run ./configure and it installed some things...02:47
nickersflash for linux is there02:47
nickersproblem is that it is version 702:47
nickersthey skipped 8 to go to 902:47
AngryParsleydredhammer: since those pages in 1998 saying "best viewed with netscape navigator in 800x600"02:47
nickersproblem is adobe cant get 9 out the door02:47
AngryParsleynickers: oh02:47
nickersblaming it on bad "APIs"02:47
nickershogwash02:47
pab1nickers:  sigh.  alrighty.  thx for info tho02:47
AngryParsleythat's lame02:47
dredhammerit wasn't this bad before02:47
Iolocan someone explain ubuntu for amd64 vs regular? I Have amd64 but have very little linux experience, which version should I use?02:47
nickerspab1: look for alsa cvs deb in google02:47
threejaviolo: ahh ok <slaps self in forehead>02:47
AngryParsleydredhammer: I've never had a problem viewing any page besides MSDN in safari02:48
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dredhammeri had no use for real player plugins now i'm running into messages about flash needs to upgrade most of the time02:48
AngryParsley(msdn requries an activex control to download some stuff)02:48
nickersdredhammer: complain to adobe, not linux02:48
snoopsIolo I recommend the i386 version personally.. less issues with things like flash, wine, etc02:48
nickersdredhammer: i hate it too02:48
dredhammerof course there is no upgrade available02:48
nickersokay out of here thanks guys02:48
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javiolothree I heard it works, I didnt had much time to play with the libs...02:49
AngryParsleysnoops: yeah, the compatibility outweighs the slight speed increase02:49
AngryParsleyI use i386 on my athlon 64 box02:49
Iolook thanks, I'll get i386 then02:49
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snoopsI used the amd64 version.. then found out about all the issues with software compatibility and changed to i38602:49
threejaviolo: I dont mess with software on my ubutnu (main) system untill I'm sure its gonna work02:49
dredhammerwell they don't seem to have a complain email address02:50
metalheddI'm trying to set up my tv-out on my nvidia card, it keeps limiting my monitor res to 1024x768 and treating the tv kinda like an extension to the current desktop, mouse goes off the right hand side and it shows up on the TV.  are there other ways to configure it that won't limit me to 1024x768?02:50
a2xmGlassCasket: thanks for now.. i got to go now...02:50
javiolothree hehe thats what I said my first installation hehe02:50
snoopsdredhammer if you were a software company that didn't much care about user feedback, would you bother with a complain email address?02:50
GaiaX11How do I play .mov in ubuntu?02:50
metalheddGaiaX11: mplaye will play them02:51
cyber_brain_mfkgFlannel: thanx a lot man!!!Now i can download universe data with synaptic!!! :D02:51
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dredhammerthey are just evil , i don't care if theres no adobe flash creator in linux but let us at least be able to use the damn thing02:51
threejaviolo: this is my umpteen linux install, but its on my laptop and i have no backups of somw of this stuff so I'm VERY careful, for now02:51
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prophetanyone having an issue with limewire launching02:52
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Powerbook`Erm wow02:52
AngryParsleydredhammer: adobe isn't obligated to provide a linux version of flash, in fact I'm surprised they even released any version of flash player for linux02:52
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Eftarjinhi02:52
flodineHi02:52
Powerbook`i downloaded kubuntu but now i like ubuntu better :s02:52
threelol02:53
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Powerbook`kubuntu has wierd file names02:53
pikciurnai have a problem while trying to make kernel: kernel source doesn`t recognize that ubuntu has gtk libraries installed, any ideas?02:53
Powerbook`but i like the windows etc better :@02:53
crimsunpikciurna: do you have libgtk2.0-dev or libgtk1.2-dev installed?02:53
pikciurnayes02:53
jbowerhow could i have the system run this as the system and not the user at logon02:53
jbowersudo killall NetworkManager02:53
jbowersudo NetworkManager02:53
prophethow do can i uninstall an application i installed?02:53
prophetits not listed in add/remove02:53
jbowerneed time to plug in wifi card02:53
Eftarjini installed proftpd, added virtual users (in a text file), but i can connect with these users. i've this in the syslog : "RequireValidShell"02:54
nalioth!java > Crescendo02:54
threeprohet: sudo apt-get remove02:54
Powerbook`now i see why people like ubuntu better then kubuntu :@02:54
AngryParsleypikciurna: do you care that much if you have a GUI for configuring the source or not? you could always do make menuconfig02:54
dredhammersoooo02:54
yggdrasi1d33t dont even need to compile it .. untarred it and it was green ... executable.. binary i guese seems to be cranking ;) thanks02:54
Eftarjinbad paste, this in the syslog : PAM(eftarjin): User not known to the underlying authentication module.02:54
prophetremove ..... filename02:54
threeyeah02:54
dredhammerwhat about reaching a target audience?02:54
prophetsays could not find the package02:55
pikciurnaAngryParsley i care, because i am just starting to use ubuntu02:55
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AngryParsleypikciurna: well if you have gtk installed and make xconfig isn't working, I don't know what the problem is02:55
dredhammereverybody is going ape over the flash video thing02:55
detectiveinspektwhen I try to mount a windows NTFS in disk manager I can't browse it without root.02:55
dredhammerif they upgrade to version 8 and 902:55
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threeprophet: i have no clue, maybe one of the leeter people here can help or try ubuntuforums.org02:56
dredhammerhow are linux users supposed to view it?02:56
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benkong2I have a registered nick for freenode. Why is my ubuntu always #ubuntu-unregged?02:56
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pikciurnaAngryParsley i dont really know if its installed, i just installed full coppy of ubuntu live cd02:57
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Crescendo!seveas02:58
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:58
prophetwhat does apt stand for02:58
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polpakprophet: aptitude afaik02:58
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cgeprophet: apt is the package manager. It doesn't stand for aptitude.02:58
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propheti understand what you do with apt command but can someone tell me some more about it02:59
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Zooliegsmhello02:59
Zooliegsmanyone knows where to download this theme?: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=3355302:59
pablo_hi, which video card do you recommend me to use with ubuntu?02:59
cgeprophet: There is no apt command. There is apt-get. What do you want to know about it?02:59
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loquitus_of_borgCan anybody recommend an extension to add to Thunderbird to deal with spam? I realize there is anti-spam functionality built in, but it is not doing enough as I am still getting flooded with spam.02:59
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cgepablo_: Depends on your philisophical and political viewpoints on the world and freedom.02:59
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polpakZooliegsm: sudo apt-get install gnome-art  and go to system->preferences->theme03:00
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DanglyBitsis it possible to mix and match edgy and dapper packages?03:00
threepablo: i personally think nVidia has much better drivers for linux03:00
pablo_cge: what do you mean, i want something to work good with rhe free software03:00
Zooliegsmpolpak thx i give a try03:00
pablo_three, better than who? ati or all the rest?03:00
prophetwhy does this happenReading package lists... Done03:01
prophetBuilding dependency tree... Done03:01
prophetE: Couldn't find package emule03:01
Mikeloamule03:01
DanglyBitsis it possible to mix and match edgy and dapper packages?03:01
Mikelotry amule03:01
darkyoshi372what's the keyboard shortcut to force-quit?03:01
prophetheh03:01
cgepablo_: If you don't mind using closed source drivers, nvidia is definitely the best. If you want an open source driver, a slightly out of date ATI is best (9200 is the maximum, I think). If you want open source and open hardware documentation, then I believe Matrox has cards that satisfy that.03:01
cgeprophet: Try apt-cache search emule.03:02
threepablo: better that everyone, and any nVidia card by any vendor.  I had an ATi card before and was very upset03:02
Mikelodarkyoshi372, alt-F4?03:02
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shrike_00I recently upgraded to dapper adn now gdm crashes.  It gives me an error something like  "input device driver kbd not found" and the same for mouse and then crashes because it cant load keyboard03:02
darkyoshi372I mean to force-quit03:02
darkyoshi372if it's not responding03:03
cgethree: Yes but now you have fallen into the EVIL of using closed source drivers. RMS would not be pleased.03:03
Mikelocge, emule?03:03
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ignatiosIs anyone really concerned with pleasing RMS?03:03
pablo_lol03:03
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pablo_cge: what do you use?03:03
Mikeloprophet: Try apt-cache search amule03:03
iiiearsshrike - check your xorg.conf it sounds incomeplete03:03
rabbitearhow do I allow another host (the laptop) to run stuff from the (desktop) .. I forgot if its the laptop or the desktop that has to have port 6000 open...03:04
threecge: rms wasnt trying to play UT2k4 at 1024x768 with some badass settings03:04
iiiearsshrike - running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should fix it.03:04
cgethree: Yes. That is the temptation that you fell for. But seriously, there are reasons you might want open source drivers - in laptops it tends to help considerably.03:04
cgepablo_: I have an ATI, but it is a laptop. If you play games, ATI tends to be rather bad.03:05
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shrike_00iiiears: what would i look for  I ran dpkg-reconfigure on xserver-xorg and it still does same thing  should the line drivers in xorg.conf that lists "kbd and "mouse" list somethign else03:05
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threecge: dont get me wrong, im in the free software camp, but i also like to use my system like everyone else03:05
BarryAllenanyone there is using radeon with fglrx driver?03:05
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pablo_cge: i dont play games, but i want something to work nice03:06
iiiearscge - what command can i use to see more about my pcmcia wifi card? lspci tells me it is Texas Instruments. - need the chip name/type03:06
cgepablo_: If you aren't in the church of GNU, you don't have a laptop, and you don't have a strange system (it used to be 64-bit caused problems), you probably want Nvidia.03:06
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threepablo: do you think you'll use XGL ever03:06
khaledis there a telnet in Ubuntu ???03:06
cgeiiiears: Have you tried lspci -v?03:06
Hexidigitalpablo_: nvidia plays very nicely with linux03:06
cgekhaled: telnet?03:06
cgekhaled: Err, yes. It's telnet.03:07
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Hexidigitalkhaled: openssh is more secure03:07
iiiearsshrike - your mouse and keyboard settings are there. - other types of input devices also03:07
cgeHexidigital: Not if you need telnet.03:07
iiiearscge - erm - (weak grin) no... (begins to type furiously at the CLI03:07
shrike_00iiiears: is it possible to jump back to breezy?  I can figure this out another day but i need the gui for the next week or so03:08
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khaledHexidigital: Where can i find openssh?03:08
Eclipse_GSXso i dont get how to use a wirless USB network drive....03:08
Eclipse_GSXir doesnt work03:08
Hexidigitalkhaled: in aptitude... apt-get install openssh (on client) openssh-server (on host)03:08
javiolo!ssh > khaled03:09
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cgekhaled: What did you want to use telnet for?03:09
khaledHexidigital: thanx03:09
Hexidigitalkhaled: np03:09
iiiearsshrike - not really enough info so i'lll have to guess.. no i don't think you can03:09
AresHello, how do I know which kernel image I currently have? [The latest update from Ubuntu?] 03:09
Hexidigital!version > Ares03:09
cgeshrike_00: No, you can't. Sometimes I wish there was a way to go edgy->dapper.03:10
HexidigitalAres: read your private message from ubotu03:10
shrike_00iiiears: ugh oh well i guess its google time then03:10
iiiearsshrike - lets see if we can't get your machine working with dapper. - are you willing?03:10
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crimsunAres: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r) |grep ^ii03:10
shrike_00iiiears: sure03:10
khaledHexidigital: Couldn't find package??03:10
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Hexidigitalkhaled: one sec03:10
iiiearsshrike - what happens when you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?03:10
Eclipse_GSXanyonw know how to use a USB wireless adapter?03:11
shrike_00iiiears: it runs like it normally does on isntall.  Even autodetects every thing.  No errors03:11
iiiearsshrike - do you get a dwsktop interface or the boring CLI?03:11
khaledHexidigital: I tried apt-get install ssh and it's working, is it the same?03:11
javiolois there any app like the win alcohol 120% to mount files as drives ?03:11
Hexidigitalkhaled: forget about the client install.. it is preinstalled (just run ssh in terminal) apt-get install openssh-server03:11
Zooliegsmpolpak i cant find that theme with this app03:11
Hexidigitalkhaled: afaik, yes03:12
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matkohi all. new to irc03:12
Hexidigitalmatko: welcome :)03:12
javiolois there any app like the win alcohol 120% to mount files as drives ?03:12
shrike_00iiiears: basically when the machine starts it acts like it is going to load but sits at blank screen then screen flashes like its retrying and does that 3 times adn then kicks me to cli03:12
iiiearsshrike - the error you described is almost certainly caused by the xorg.conf not listing a mouse and keyboard.03:12
Hexidigital!iso03:13
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows03:13
matkowhat is (Reqiured keyword) ?03:13
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iiiearsshrike - run "sudo lspci" compare what you see there with what is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:13
Hexidigitaljaviolo: did you get that?03:13
javioloyes03:13
AresDamn, someone wish me luck on this =O03:13
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shrike_00iiiears: one sec03:14
javiolobut I doesnt do what I want...03:14
javioloGUI app03:14
Powerbook`When installing ubuntu, shoudl I let it do everything default?03:14
profoX`when I use the shift key 5 times in a row I get this sticky key warning ! (plaktoetsen for the dutch people in here) .. how do i disable this warning? it interferes my game :P (and it reminds me of wintendo)03:14
Powerbook`or change something?03:14
ConfuZedHello is there a way to download ie6 in WineTools Without accsess to download.microsoft.com (Its blocked by my host :( )03:14
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HexidigitalPowerbook`: unless you need a special configuration, you should be okay03:15
iiiearsshrike - I need to apologize to you. - not able to help for a few mins. - my wife just put dinner on the table. - i am sorry, be back in 30 minutes. - sigh.03:15
Powerbook`ok thanks03:15
javiolo!iso > javiolo03:15
FlannelConfuZed: you try the standalone version?  http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone03:15
ConfuZedBout to try.03:15
Hexidigitaljaviolo: /msg ubotu {query} works too03:15
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javiolohexidigital ok knew thay I prefer this way :)03:16
Powerbook`1 more question03:16
Powerbook`If I have fedora on it now03:16
Powerbook`should I erase it03:16
javiolohexidigital any app like alcohol 120%03:16
Powerbook`or modify partions03:16
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Hexidigitaljaviolo: not that i know of... i mount my .iso through CLI... i haven't seen (or heard of) any apps like that03:16
Powerbook`Erase entire disk; or resize IDE1 master, Partion #1 (hda1) and use freed space?03:16
detienwhy would you want to use IE when you have FireFox ?03:16
HexidigitalPowerbook`: do you want to keep Fedora?03:17
javiolohexidigital ok03:17
Powerbook`no03:17
snoopsdetien he's a web developer I'm assuming03:17
javiolohexidigital thanks!03:17
HexidigitalPowerbook`: you could erase the entire disk then03:17
Hexidigitaljaviolo: np :)03:17
Powerbook`ok03:17
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tuliomgui!video03:17
ubotuI know nothing about video - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:17
Hexidigitaltuliomgui: what are you looking for?03:17
tuliomguidoes anyone know a good video player??03:18
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shrike_00iiiears: hmm dont see anything about a keyboard listed03:18
tuliomguii tried mplayer but it says it is not available for my hardware03:18
Hexidigitaltuliomgui: kaffeine (imo) is pretty good03:18
tuliomguilet me see03:18
javioloif you dont wanna install ie6 ill try browsershots.prg03:18
javioloif you dont wanna install ie6 ill try browsershots.org03:18
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javiolotuliomgui vlc player03:18
ConfuZed>Flannel What do i do with the Files?03:18
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quiethi, i'm on the livecd/install cd... is it possible to mount lvm partitions?03:19
dan_desousawould ubuntu desktop be fine on 192 megs of ram?03:19
tuliomguithanks folks!!03:19
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tuliomgui=D03:19
tuliomguivery good channel for help...03:19
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Hexidigitaltuliomgui: :)03:19
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quietdan_desousa: i would recommend xubuntu (xfce)  but the gnome desktop would work... just might be a little laggy.03:19
dan_desousawell, it's going to be a dedicated machine for running stepmania03:20
ignatioslol03:20
javiolodan_desousa try fluxbox03:20
quietdan_desousa: what is stepmania?03:20
Powerbook`ubuntu was good for 80 gb hd with 512 mb ram? right?03:20
dan_desousaquiet: it is a game which simulates the dance dance revolution arcade machine03:20
cyber_brain_mfkg!kworld03:20
ubotuI know nothing about kworld - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:20
HexidigitalPowerbook`: yes03:20
shrike_00iiiears: hmm dont see anything about a keyboard listed03:20
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quietdan_desousa: interesting...03:21
Powerbook`okay thanks03:21
cyber_brain_mfkg!tv03:21
ubotuI know nothing about tv - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:21
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profoX`Powerbook`: that will go lightning fast if the cpu is above Ghz :)03:21
dibblegowhy does sudo apt-get install mysql-server ask me to insert a cdrom?03:21
profoX`1Ghz thatis03:21
crimsundibblego: because you have a cdrom deb src active.03:21
quietdan_desousa: any relation to Anthony DeSousa?03:21
HexidigitalPowerbook`: is it a Powerbook?03:21
Powerbook`No03:21
dan_desousanot at all quiet03:21
dibblegocrimsun, so I do - I overlooked it03:21
Powerbook`why does everyone ask :S03:21
quietok ;)03:21
Powerbook`its a HP :@03:21
HexidigitalPowerbook`: i would've been jealous :)03:21
profoX`dibblego: because the file is on your cdrom as the newest file, if you don't want to use the cd: put a # in front of the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list03:21
Powerbook`Hexidigital I have a powerbook but it doesnt have linux on it :@03:22
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Powerbook`i have 1 windows 1 linux and 2 macs :@03:22
mikechmllinux has managed to invade 3 of my machines in a past month03:23
quietanyone: can I(and if so, how?) mount LVM partitions from inside the live cd?03:23
mikechml:p03:23
HexidigitalPowerbook`: i can't imagine why anyone would ask if it was a powerbook :)03:23
tuliomguimac stuff is very good03:23
tuliomguigod dawmn03:23
Powerbook`lol hex :P03:23
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ConfuZedflannel : I got the standalone what should i do with it?03:23
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FlannelConfuZed: er, no idea?  I just know that it's a IE download03:26
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darkyoshi372.gh03:26
neuro_damagewhat fonts pacakge do I install so i have times new roman?03:26
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neuro_damagebecause right now there aren't very many fonts inside of openoffice03:26
javiolohexidigital if sudo mount -o loop dev-cod2.iso /media/cod2/03:26
axi'm getting these problems when i try to run rxvt, aterm, that the app cannot find/load a color, white, or black...03:27
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javiolohexidigital it says the mount point /media/cod2/ doesnt exists03:27
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carajeanI have a problem with sound. My sound for my videos is barely audible. But the sound for lets say when someone sends me an instant message is extremly loud. Has anyone a solution to this?03:28
mikechmljaviolo: sudo mkdir /media/cod203:28
javiolooh I though mounting would create the directory... thankss03:28
dandesousaquiet: mind if I pm you?03:28
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iiiearscarajan - Is there a seperate volume control for the application you are using?03:29
quietdandesousa: 'spose not..03:29
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neuro_damageanyone?03:29
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BarryAllenanyone using ati driver with xorg 7.0.0 ?03:30
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Steph14how to enable read access to all users on my windows ntfs files?  I can do it as root03:30
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mikechmli am BarryAllen03:31
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bubu1ukSteph14, u might need to chmod that dir03:31
tokenbadwhats the info for installing restricted formats?03:31
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BarryAllenmikechml, the official site (ati) says it works with xort 6.803:31
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BarryAllenmikechml, can i ignore it, ?03:31
javiolo!restricted > tokenbad03:32
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iiiearscarajean - Can you bring up gconf-editor and see if you -might- have two sound plug-ins for the same type of media?03:32
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mikechmlwhich card do you have?03:32
prophetcan someone tell me the differences between suse,gentoo,redhat,centos03:32
Steph14bubuluk, which switches to I use with chmod?03:32
mikechmlchmod won't work on it03:32
wanglin-sir http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Sources03:32
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BarryAllenmikechml, 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] 03:32
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wanglin-sirW:  apt-get update 03:33
iiiearspoor ubotu03:33
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HeartsbaneGeezus03:33
iiiearsis there an #ubuntu- chinese channel?03:33
HeartsbaneThank you whoever03:33
DBOubuntu-zn03:33
icarowhat is the channel in spanish????i am new03:33
icaro:)03:33
mikechmli'm not sure about that then BarryAllen, mine's not on a laptop03:33
jrib!zh03:33
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk03:33
carajeaniiears: i am really new and i dont know exactly what to type to get to where u would like me to go. but here is something interesting,i stopped playing the movie and watched a streamed video from a friend the sound was very nice.  but i went to play the dvd again and i dont have the right plug ins now03:33
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:33
iiiearsjrib - thanks03:34
khaledguys, where can i find the source code of ubuntu?03:34
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bubu1uksteph14: or just edit /etc/fstab03:34
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cgekhaled: What exactly do you want?03:34
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cgekhaled: The source to a particular package?03:35
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javiolois it safe to mount a cd image on /media/cdrom/ ??03:35
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khaledcge: I want to look to the process management03:35
HeartsbaneAlright guys anyone got time to give me a hand, I have a HP LaserJet 4 hooked up with a JetDirect Print Server hooked up to our Ubuntu Workstation but it wants to print everything in A4, not letter format no matter what I set it too03:35
cgejaviolo: Somewhat, but it is better to just make another directory.03:35
cgekhaled: You mean in the kernel?03:36
CrescendoI think I might have two versions of JRE installed, as a web application detects version 1.5.x, but Azureus is slightly buggy if it runs at all, and "java --version" returns 1.4.2.  How would I fix this?  I think I remember on Fedora changing my default java installation, would this be applicable on Ubuntu?  Any further suggestions?03:36
khaledcge: yes03:36
Steph14So i have to edit /etc/fstab?03:36
javiolocge Ive done that way but cedega doesnt get the imagefile03:36
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cgejaviolo: Oh. Yes, it is safe to do so.03:36
javiolocge to umount ?03:37
iiiearsCrescendo sudo dpkg-reconfigure "the java package you installed" -maybe???03:37
cgekhaled: The kernel source packages are something like linux-source-2.6.17 (or 15 if you are still running dapper).03:37
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bubu1uksteph14: more likely yes. i think i did it this way when i needed it03:37
BarryAllenmikechml, ill try, tks dude03:37
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cgejaviolo: To mount the image there.03:38
khaledcge: yes i am still running dapper, this means i have to downloads it?03:38
cgekhaled: No, it is linux-source-2.6.15 in that case.03:38
HeartsbaneAnyone have any clue why I when I change from A4 to Letter format on my printer setup it still sends everything to the printer in A403:38
bubu1uksteph14: been a while when i used dual boot.03:38
quiethow can i mount an LVM partition from a different OS?03:38
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javiolocge I mean how do I umount a image file03:38
mikechmlSteph14: change the umask from 007 to 00003:39
mikechmlin /etc/fstab03:39
prophetwhat kind of information does fstab store? or used for03:39
digitalhav0csup people anyone ever heard of the asoka plug link?03:39
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cgejaviolo: With umount /path/to/place/where/mounted03:39
tritiumHeartsbane: only in OpenOffice?03:39
javiolocge ok thanks03:39
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Heartsbanetritium: No in every application, even a test print03:39
khaledcge: which folder?03:39
cgeprophet: It stores information on which device is mounted where.03:40
Crescendo sudo dpkg-reconfigure sun-java5-jre    - did absolutely nothing, from what I saw.03:40
Powerbook`Erm03:40
bubu1ukprophet: file system tab fstab03:40
cgekhaled: Oh. It installs a tarball in /usr/src. You have to unpack it yourself.03:40
CrescendoIt must have ran, with no output.03:40
Powerbook`when I go to add and remove applications03:40
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Powerbook`why does it say it isnt avaliable in any software channel?03:40
Powerbook`what does that mena03:40
tritiumHeartsbane: hmm, no, that's not normal03:40
Powerbook`mean*03:40
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digitalhav0chttp://www0.shopping.com/xPO-SMC_Asoka_PlugLink_Ethernet_Wall_Module_Bridge_EN_Fast_EN_HomePlug_1_003:40
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prophetk03:40
digitalhav0ctrying to figure out how to use it in linux?03:40
garrett_massGood evening #ubuntu03:40
digitalhav0cor to get it work03:40
Powerbook`What does "'_' is not avliable in any software channel" from add/remove applications mean?03:40
Heartsbanetritium: I know I have been sitting here @ work trying to figure out why?03:41
digitalhav0cgood evening garrett_mass03:41
khaledcge: usr/src is empty03:41
garrett_massNeed some help with dual monitors and an ATI card, if anyone is willing.03:41
cgekhaled: And you installed linux-source-2.6.15?03:41
garrett_massSpecifically, trying to setup dual monitors in my xorg.conf file. I'm having troubles, oh noes!03:41
khaledcge03:41
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Powerbook`What does "'_' is not avliable in any software channel" from add/remove applications mean?03:41
Heartsbanetritium: guess I will make a forum post and tell everyone tomorrow that it still isn't working03:41
_nano_Hello, has anyone tried to install spellbound extension on firefox in dapper?03:41
tritiumkhaled: dpkg -L linux-source-2.6.15 should reveal what files it came with.  Only a .tar.gz, if I recall correctly03:41
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khaledcge: no, how can i install it/03:41
khaledok thanx03:42
tritiumkhaled: what are you trying to do?03:42
cgekhaled: With apt-get03:42
carajeanis there a better dvd player than what comes with ubuntu03:42
tritiumHeartsbane: you've saved the printer settings you prefer?03:42
iiiearsPowerbook - "referred to by another package but that package seems unavailable"? - i might add another repository. "universe communitty supported"03:42
cgetritium: Examine the kernel source :)03:42
tritium!dvd > carajean03:42
Powerbook`iiiears how do i do that?03:42
tritiumcge: that's all he wants to do?  Okay, just checking....03:42
prophetwhat does piping do03:42
cgekhaled: Be sure not to get eaten by a grue when examining the source :)03:42
khaledtritium: i just want to look at some source files of the kernel03:43
Heartsbanetritium: ya like 10 times, and I have logged into the CLI to verify they were written03:43
iiiears!repos03:43
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tritiumprophet: "pipes" the output of one program into the input of another03:43
tritiumkhaled: okay03:43
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prophetwhat would you use that for thats abstract can u give me an example03:43
tritiumHeartsbane: on dapper03:43
tritium?03:43
Heartsbanetritium: its like its pulling from another location, the only trouble this is the only workstation doing it03:43
tritiumprophet: lsmod | grep ipw220003:43
cgekhaled: It's just apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15, and then it will show up in /usr/src.03:44
propheti dont know what that means03:44
carajeantritium: I googled that and i cant find it.03:44
khaledtritium: as i had a project before realted to modifying the policy of the process management couple of years ago03:44
Heartsbanetritium: yes dapper03:44
tritiumprophet: to list the modules loaded, and look only for the ipw2200 module03:44
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tritiumcarajean: googled what?03:44
zerostarhxwahh lol this shit is hard03:44
tritiumkhaled: okay03:44
tritiumzerostarhx: watch the language please03:44
zerostarhxSorry!03:44
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prophetwhy would u want to see what modules are loaded? what do modules do?03:44
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Powerbook`Does Tux Racer come with Ubuntu???03:44
Heartsbanetritium: I will make a forum post tomorrow, its just odd03:44
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HeartsbaneNight03:45
__chris_DBO here? :)03:45
tritiumPowerbook`: not by default, but it's in the repos, if you want to install it03:45
iiiearsPoerbook - Heed the warning about keeping universe enabled - many apps in the wild wild web aren't checked to see if the work, compiule or have erm "riders" (trojans) - ubunu's repos are as safe as it gets.03:45
garrett_massDual monitor support, anyone?03:45
tritiumHeartsbane: a bug report would be better03:45
DBO__chris_, yes...03:45
Powerbook`iiiears which repo are those games ni?03:45
Powerbook`in*03:45
tritiumgarrett_mass: are you using fglrx or ati drivers?03:45
__chris_DBO remember me?03:45
__chris_:)03:45
DBO__chris_, yes03:45
tritium!info tuxracer03:45
ubotuPackage tuxracer does not exist in dapper03:45
carajeanthat !dvd thing u said about a better dvd player03:45
Powerbook`tritium which repo are those in?03:45
garrett_masstritium: ati drivers.03:45
bubu1ukprophet: modules are like drivers in win.03:45
__chris_DBO awesome!... get ready for this still on ubuntu... i love ubuntu!!03:45
Powerbook`!info atlantik03:46
ubotuatlantik: KDE client for Monopoly-like network games. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1100 kB03:46
iiiearsPowerbook - games (perk) What game? (gamer here..)03:46
tritium!info planetpenguin-racer03:46
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ubotuplanetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 242 kB, installed size 700 kB03:46
prophetthey control the communication between the hardare03:46
cgeWhat package do I need to install to install a minimum working Xorg?03:46
iiiearsI love games03:46
Heartsbanetritium: I will keep that in mind, thanx, its days like this that make me hate monday's03:46
garrett_masstritium: Would you suggest switching to fglrx?03:46
tritiumHeartsbane: sorry, dude03:46
DBO__chris_, good to hear it =)03:46
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HeartsbaneSokay03:46
tritiumgarrett_mass: no, not really.  The "radeon" manual page has info on extended desktop03:46
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__chris_DBO Ok i had apache working, and my public ip changed, what can i do to make it not change... right now with new public ip i cant load up my website... :(03:46
DBO__chris_, are you using no-ip?03:47
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__chris_DBO i herd you need a static IP03:47
garrett_masstritium: Silly question but, could you point me in the right direction to that?03:47
DBO__chris_, you do, but you would have to ask your ISP for that03:47
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Powerbook`iiiears how do i install universe?03:47
TokenBadwas java redone for linux?03:47
cge__chris_: Quite a few places have dynamic dns now, however, in which case you don't need a static IP.03:47
Powerbook`I cant seem to figure it out03:47
Nereus1977DBO: have you looked into dynamic dns services03:47
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__chris_DBO they want $50.00 a month for that compared to the price i am paying now03:47
javioloHow do I decompress a bunch of rar files .r00 .r01 ....03:47
Nereus1977cge beat me to it :)03:48
DBONereus1977, wrong guy =P03:48
__chris_DBO i am paying $1303:48
__chris_:)03:48
sethk__chris_, do you have control of the DHCP server that gives you the IP?03:48
mikechmljaviolo: rar e file.r0003:48
DBO__chris_, you can use a dynamic dns, like no-ip which I mentioned before03:48
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tritiumgarrett_mass: sure, System->Help, then search for radeon03:48
mikechmlapt-get install rar, if you haven't already got it03:48
__chris_DBO no-ip.com ;)03:48
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garrett_masstritium: Thank you, sir.03:48
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javiolomikechml Im using unrar-free didnt find rar03:49
tritiumgarrett_mass: any time03:49
__chris_DBO is this free?03:49
iiiearsPowerbook - open synaptic and click on "settings" .. "repositories"  "universe comunity supported"03:49
Powerbook`iokay03:49
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DBO__chris_, there is a free version03:49
mikechmltry unrar-free -x file.r0003:50
__chris_DBO where :) ? ():03:50
javiolomikechml that doesnt works... that what I was trying03:50
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iiiearsPowerbook - Have you played "Battle for Wesnoth"? - has anyone tried it? - just wondering.03:50
__chris_DBO got it! DBO your the best03:50
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mikechmlhmm03:50
__chris_DBO if i have trouble will you be here?03:50
__chris_:)03:50
Powerbook`iiiears do i need internet to get those?03:50
TokenBadalso in kubuntu can you use the disk manager to mount drives?03:50
Powerbook`I dont have net on my linux :s03:51
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mikechml!info rar03:51
uboturar: Archiver for .rar files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)03:51
DBO__chris_, im in and out03:51
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mikechmljaviolo: i'd recommend getting that ^03:51
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naliothwell, hi Hobbsee !03:51
__chris_DBO well ill be done signing up for the service in 2 mins or less03:51
__chris_:)03:51
iiiearsPowerbook. - Huh? - yes. (i am easily confused )03:51
javioloI think I have multiverse activated and doesnt find it03:51
Hobbseehi nalioth03:52
iiiearsPowerbook - do you need universe community supported enabled???03:52
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Powerbook`i dont know i just intsalled it and i want some games :s03:52
iiiearsyes03:52
Powerbook`i just installed ubuntu :@03:52
javiolo!multiverse03:52
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ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:52
__chris_DBO tar.gz download... i hate those packages03:52
DBO__chris_, not to worry, if you dont figure it out we can help you out03:52
__chris_DBO i think i can manage03:52
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tritiumgarrett_mass: http://linux.spiney.org/debian_gnu_linux_on_an_ibm_thinkpad_t43p_graphics_card  <-- This has some useful examples03:53
__chris_DBO sudo it! :) sh take the sh out of it :)03:53
__chris_:P03:53
iiiearsPowerbook - Unreal Tournament 2004 and doom 3 run natively - some other great games run darn well with either WINE or Cedega's WINE transgaming.org03:53
garrett_masstritium: Thanks!03:53
Skoojhello, err.. when i boot up ubuntu I get an underscore in the top left of my screen and I can't do anything, I see it both on 6.06 and 5.10.. however, on 6.06 I also see the "uncompressing linux... ok. booting the kernel" thing above it (after the bootscreen disappears). how do i fix it, anyone know and can help?03:53
tritiumgarrett_mass: :)03:53
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iiiearsPowerbook - Got to give you the standard boilerplate message about Ubuntu - Ubuntu is addicting fun." - wide grin03:55
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Powerbook`iiiears but without internet i cant download any games :\?03:55
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sethkSkooj, boot a rescue cd, then look for /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:55
iiiearsPowerbook - Wifi/ndiswrapper blues?03:55
Skoojerr.. rescue cd?03:55
sethkSkooj, read that log, which hopefully will tell you why it failed.03:55
sethkSkooj, yes.  install cd in rescue mode, or a live cd03:55
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Powerbook`iiiears in add and remove programs, dont all those come with it? so i dont need to download anything? but yet they dont work :\03:56
Skoojk, and how do i go about opening that sethk?03:56
Skoojlike, xorg.0.log?03:56
iiiearsPowerbook - still wrestling with that for my lappy. - some get it installed in a single click - i have not been one of the lucky ones.03:56
javiolorar works not like unrar-free03:56
sethkSkooj, any editor, or you can do this:  more Xorg.0.log03:56
javiolothanks!03:57
mikechmlif it's just X failing, then you can press ctrl + alt + f1 to get to a shell03:57
Skoojkk brb03:57
__chris_DBO Please enter the login/email string for no-ip.com  chris03:57
__chris_Please enter the password for user 'chris'  ****03:57
__chris_You have entered an incorrect username03:57
__chris_        -or-03:57
__chris_an incorrect password for this username.03:57
__chris_mv /tmp/no-ip2.conf /usr/local/etc/no-ip2.conf03:57
__chris_mv: cannot stat `/tmp/no-ip2.conf': No such file or directory03:57
sethkmikechml, depends on how far it got, but that's certainly worth trying03:57
__chris_make: *** [install]  Error 103:57
__chris_sorry for the flood03:57
__chris_:|03:57
zOap__chris_, don't do that03:57
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Skoojmikechml, ctrl alt f1 does nothing for me :S03:57
DBO__chris_, you know better, please dont flood again, as far as that goes though, have you registered yet?03:57
iiiears!paste03:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:57
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Skoojjust sits there with the underscore..03:58
Skoojanyhow imma try03:58
__chris_DBO i dont know how to regisister03:58
sethkmikechml, Skooj I've seen a couple of cases where a dma issue with the video card crashed the entire system03:58
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sethkmikechml, and the symptoms were exactly what skooj is describing.03:58
javiolo!paste >  __chris_03:58
Bonezhi i'm having major problems with MySQL. Is there anyone here who knows much about it?03:58
mikechmlah03:58
sethkof course that's not the only possible cause.03:58
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DBO__chris_, you register at their website03:58
__chris_DBO thanks03:59
__chris_:)03:59
Skoojerr.. sethk, that's what others have told me it would probably be..03:59
__chris_pastebin DBO ?03:59
DBO__chris_, what do you need pastebin for?03:59
ZambeziBonez, #mysql ?03:59
DBO__chris_, oh yes, for long messages use pastebin03:59
Skoojbut lemme see03:59
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Viper550Hey everyone, would anyone like to see a preview of one of the themes that may come with Edgy?04:00
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snoopsuh huh04:01
mikechmlsure04:01
Viper550https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Tropic04:01
Viper550My new definition, this is what Human should had been like04:01
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whiteranyone know how to get my sound working?04:02
whiterlspci shows the sound card, ubuntu just doesnt want to recognize it04:02
__chris_DBO http://pastebin.ca/9911304:02
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DBO__chris_, did you register at the no-ip website?04:03
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__chris_DBO yes04:03
Viper550So, how do you like it?04:03
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DBO__chris_, give it your email address you entered at the website for your login name04:04
danf_1979I dont like the green stuff, but orange is ok. It looks nice04:04
jon27kcOne reason Ubuntu caught my attention was the brown. I liked it. At least orange isn't blue. But not too taken, sorry.04:04
danf_1979:)04:04
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__chris_DBO ohh i shoulda known that :P i feel dumb... DBO alright great!04:04
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snoopsViper550 the inactive tabs colour look out of place and don't 'flow' with the colour of the other windows in my opinion04:05
Viper550The green ones were earlier versions, the one you should really pay attention to04:05
__chris_ok need to confiqure it on the website DBO :)04:05
CrescendoI need a data recovery tool to replace some of my Windows tools, what is a good one for Ubuntu/Linux in general?04:05
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DBO__chris_, ok, sounds good04:05
iiiearsthe idea for brown bubbles desktop background is a bit busy. - got to vote for the current one being reused.04:06
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__chris_DBO DNS Host (A)04:06
__chris_DNS Host (Round Robin)04:06
__chris_DNS Alias (CNAME)04:06
__chris_Port 80 Redirect04:06
__chris_Web Redirect?04:06
Skoojsethk, err.. what it's telling me is that it's using my onboard video card as opposed to my PCI card, but like, when i boot it up with the monitor plugged into the onboard it doesn't show me anything..04:06
__chris_Which one?04:06
__chris_:)04:07
__chris_DNS Host?04:07
DBO__chris_, yes04:07
Viper550There, the tabs are the same color now as the base interface, happy now snoops?04:07
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__chris_Enable Wildcard?04:07
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pharglei like orange.. its been awhile since ive had an orange desktop04:07
__chris_I mean Allow Wild Cards?04:07
iiiearsCrescendo - take a look at the penguin sleuth kit and derivatives. - I have used HELIX for awhile. - they all use the same base utils and can be easily installed in ubuntu. tho HELIX is a knoppix live bootable cd04:08
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intelnuxI hope someone can explain some konfusion I've been stumbling around in: I clean install 6.06 last night and was trying to get wireless running and had sucess; then I decided I needed to have a static IP and when I went to change it I lost wireless and couldn't get it back again, so I did a new install and started over only this time I find I have /lib/firmware/2.6.15-23-386 when I was expecting /lib/firmware/2.6.15-26-38604:08
intelnuxI used the same Cd how can that happen?04:08
__chris_DBO Allow Wildcards: ? Enached/Plus Feature? :)04:08
DBO__chris_, you dont really need it... I doubt its in the free version04:08
__chris_DBO I wont click it thanks :)04:08
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iiiearsCrecsendo - Honestly any search for linux and forensics tools will turn up good candidates04:09
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songo_can I apt-cache add a .deb pkg that I've download so apt can install it with no dependencies problems?04:09
avisi'm sorry.  i have to do something against the rules and offtopic just to celebrate ubuntu with you.  i'm poping my dual core 3.2 preston in my linux box tomorrow and putting my Celeron D 2.8 in my windows box.04:09
__chris_Says Wait 5 mins DBO :) lets hope it works!04:09
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tritiumavis: nothing to apologize for ;)04:10
GG_Allinhow do I change an interface name, say from eth1 to wlan0 or something like that?04:10
avisdanke :)04:10
tritiumGG_Allin: try renaming it in /etc/iftab04:10
GG_Allinok04:10
Skoojalright, so. here's my problem. i keep getting an underscore when booting into ubuntu (even on live cd, so i can't install 6.06, which i would like to), because (according to 5.10's xorg.0.log) it's trying to use my onboard card as opposed to my pci card, yet when i plug my monitor into the onboard port, it doesnt show me anything. what can i do to fix this?04:10
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tritiumSkooj: disable the onboard sound in the bios04:11
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Skoojsound? or graphics?04:11
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Skoojk, how do i get into bios? escape, right?04:11
tritiumSkooj: sound04:11
tritiumSkooj: depends on the mobo04:11
Skoojsound? but i'm having issues with graphics..04:11
nomasteryodaF2 F1 sometimes F1204:11
tritiumSkooj: you said it's trying to use your onboard sound...04:12
__chris_DBO Please enter an update interval:[30] 04:12
__chris_?04:12
Skoojerr i meant onboard graphics..04:12
__chris_im in  the ternimal.. what do i type in DBO?04:12
GG_Allinbasically I'm having the same problem as this guy --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185149   I'm unable to get an IP address from my router.  the guy in that thread solved his problem, but he doesn't say how.  anyone know how?04:12
tritiumSkooj: well, disable that, then04:12
DBO__chris_, just press enter04:12
Viper550Okay, so I changed the inactive tab color to something darker, would that work better?04:12
Skoojerr k04:12
__chris_DBO thanks :)04:12
nomasteryodaSkooj, can't you just do a dist-upgrade?04:12
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Skoojnomasteryoda, i can't get anything to boot up04:13
Skoojbrb lemme try to disable the card04:13
nomasteryodak04:13
__chris_DBO Do you wish to run something at successful update?[N]  (y/N)04:13
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DBO__chris_, no04:13
__chris_thanks :)04:13
celiahello; I'm new to LAMP. I installed apache2, php5 and mysql4.1.15: My problem is cannot process php pages. Can some one help me?04:13
__chris_so its done :) DBO ... how do i add this new adress to my apache?04:13
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DBO__chris_, you dont really need to04:14
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zerostarhxany really experiance linux user want to answer a few questions for me?04:14
sethkcelia, there are changes required in apache configuration to support php.  Did you make these?04:14
zerostarhxexperiance *ubuntu* users04:14
nomasteryodawe will04:14
nomasteryodaask04:14
__chris_DBO ok so i have this new adress... i made a website , i have the files in the apache folder, do i use the same apache commands?04:14
Crescendoiiiears, I'm having a bit of trouble finding the packages that these solutions use, in particular.   Mind lending me a hand, anything I can apt-get off hand?04:15
DBO__chris_, yeah pretty much04:15
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celiasethk, i uncommented the lines in apache config to read php pages; nothing more04:15
aroonihey folks04:15
__chris_DBO do i have to tell Apache my new web adress?04:15
zerostarhxok I've been keeping a gedit file with a kind of documentery on my experiances and questions I'll copy what 2 questions i have04:15
sethkthe apache config isn't sensative to IP numbers, only names.04:15
nomasteryodajust not too long winded zerostarhx04:15
iiiearsCrescendo - sure04:15
DBO__chris_, you can if you want, you can look up how to do that on google, there are a million walkthroughs04:16
zerostarhxok i'll do one at a time04:16
sethkcelia, you need to add .php to the list of allowable executable files (that is, a .php is allowed to do things)04:16
nomasteryodayou can post to pastebin if they are long04:16
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celiai also edited /etc/hosts with the name of my hosts...04:16
zerostarhx-How do I add extracted files to my applications list? Do i need to use my Terminal?04:16
zerostarhxI sucessfully extracted a program to a folder I created04:16
Skoojerm, i can't disable onboard video boot in the bios. i can only change it to "onboard 1k (currently at)" or "onboard 512k"..?04:16
__chris_DBO will you be one of the millions? :)04:16
nomasteryodaextracted as in installed?04:16
__chris_;)04:16
zerostarhxI'm not sure where its stored on my hard drive04:16
sethkcelia, ok, /etc/hosts is needed, but (obviously ) not sufficient.04:16
DBO__chris_, not today, working on something else04:16
celiasethk, sure; i've already done that in /etc/apache2/apache.config04:16
songo_Can I apt-cache add a .deb pkg that I've download so apt can install it with no dependencies problems?04:16
sethkSkooj, that's a bitch04:16
zerostarhxI used the "Archive Manager"04:16
__chris_DBO thanks04:17
zerostarhxand created a folder in my home folder04:17
tritiumsongo_: no04:17
zerostarhxcalled Programs04:17
nomasteryodazerostarhx, then they should be under your home04:17
Skoojso i can't disable my onboard video card?04:17
__chris_im sure the readme has something DBO i thank you for the help tonight04:17
nomasteryodaya04:17
__chris_:)04:17
sethkcelia, there is also a list of directories that are allowed to contain executable pages.04:17
tritiumSkooj: why not?04:17
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zerostarhxThe part that i'm confused about is there isn't an exe. Can you tell I installed today? lol04:17
zerostarhxoh my I think I just found an exe lol04:17
celiasethk, i'm using a per-user directory configuration, and i can see html pages from these directories04:17
Skoojthere's no option in bios tritium? i have pci selected as default card, but boot goes to onboard :S04:17
songo_How to install a .deb without messing up the depencies?04:17
nomasteryodazerostarhx, ah so you may have just gotten a tar file with code to build a package04:17
tritiumSkooj: which mobo is this?04:18
BioVorEzerostarhx: in linux fileextentions mean nothing..04:18
sethkcelia, yes, but (obviously) http files are allowable anywhere in the directory structure04:18
sethkcelia, but .php (again by default) is not.04:18
Skoojno idea, it came in a hewlett packard.. they dont tell me these things :S04:18
zerostarhxit says Mime type:application/x-executable04:18
sethkcelia, so you have to tweak the apache conf and convince it to allow .php everywhere.04:18
celiasethk, oh! you mean per-user direcories must be enabled for php, specifically?04:18
BioVorEzerostarhx: exectable files are mark as x in the file persmissions04:18
nomasteryodazerostarhx, my recommendations and all other ubuntu geeks here is to setup the repositories to provide the widest selection then do "sudo apt-get update" & "sudo apt-get upgrade"04:18
sethkcelia, I believe so, yes.  I did what you are doing about six months ago and I'm a little hazy.04:18
iiiearszerotarhx - Welcome to Ubunu Linux - I'm guessing the redmond WA company will soon lose yet another customer. - Open source is amazing.04:19
Skoojthe onboard card is an intel 818 family chip though.. i know that much04:19
nomasteryodathen launch synaptic and search for something you want to install04:19
celiasethk, ok, I see! I'll check that! thanks, seth04:19
sethkcelia, but I do remember having to add the directory names where .php is allowable.04:19
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sethkcelia, good luck.04:19
nomasteryodaapt will do the rest.. including menu items04:19
zerostarhxiiiears: lol yeah I can't wait to learn it04:19
celiasethk, I know how to do that. Thanks a lot04:19
zerostarhxOI this will take more time than I have, do people stay up very late in here?04:19
Skoojso err.. can't use my pci card then?04:19
nomasteryodaiiiears, lol yea we hope so04:19
zerostarhxI'll be back in about 3-4 hours04:19
Crescendoiiiears, come up with anything?04:19
tritiumzerostarhx: 24/704:19
sethkSkooj, you can04:19
nomasteryodatritium, LOL04:20
tritiumzerostarhx: there are people here from all over the world, so there's always a crowd04:20
zerostarhxWoot, i'm so happy lol I can't wait to learn, I feel that adventure spirit comming up again04:20
Skoojwell, i can't disable my onboard?04:20
sethkSkooj, you can use the PCI card without disabling the onboard video04:20
iiiearsCrescendo - No. sorry.04:20
tritiumnomasteryoda: :)04:20
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nomasteryodaubuntu rocKs!04:20
ardchoilleHow do I detect the UID of the user who is currently logged in?04:20
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nomasteryodawho04:20
Skoojerr, then how do i fix my problem? it tries to send ubuntu through onboard, but when i plug my monitor into onboard port it won't show me anything? otherwise i jsut get the underscore?04:20
sethkSkooj, don't need to disable.  In the xorg.conf file, for a video board, the PCI information (bus, location on bus, etc.) is included.  If that info matches the PCI card, X will use the PCI card.04:20
nomasteryodaardchoille, the who command04:20
zerostarhxtritium nomasteryoda iiiears: Thankyou guys!!! Hope to see you around! I'll be back later04:20
iiiearstritium will bail me out. Won't you please buddy. (i'll beg if necessary.)04:21
nomasteryodazerostarhx, cool04:21
Skoojerr.. yea, i'm not that linux savvy.. so how do i fix then?04:21
sethkSkooj, you will need to get into the system (again, rescue or live cd) to make the changes to xorg.conf, assuming it exists.04:21
ardchoillenomasteryoda: I need to put it into an if-then statement in a bash script04:21
sethkSkooj, the install completes normally, correct?04:21
nomasteryodaah, shell scripts.. what fun04:21
zerostarhxI will make a blog to post my discoveries questions ect and post it on the forums. That way I don't have to use gedit04:21
sethkardchoille, that's easy enough04:21
Skoojof 5.10 yes, but i can't get livecd to boot up, sethk04:21
zerostarhxTalk to you guys soon! I'm going to afk for a bit04:21
sethkSkooj, ok, then you'll have to use rescue mode which is strictly command line.04:22
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tritiumzerostarhx: see you around :)04:22
sethkardchoille, if    whatever04:22
sethkardchoille, then04:22
tritiumiiiears: sorry, was distracted.  With what, bud?04:22
Skoojk, so how do i get to xorg.conf and how do i do whatever you said?04:22
sethkardchoille, one or more lines to exec04:22
sethkardchoille, else04:22
__chris_someone know where the httpd.conf file is?04:22
sethkardchoille, one or more lines to exec04:22
sethkardchoille, fi04:22
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tritium__chris_: should be under /etc/apache204:23
ardchoillesethk: Got that part, what do I use for the "whatever" to detect which user is logged in?04:23
__chris_thanks trutium04:23
iiiearstritium - Could you help Crescendo? (Okay, i am begging.)04:23
__chris_tritium got a question, do you have no-ip?04:23
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tritium__chris_: but that's from memory, since I've not used it in a long time04:23
tritiumiiiears: I'll try, but I need to get up to speed on his problem04:23
sethkardchoille, there is a way to get that, let me see if I have an example.04:23
bertlacy812ok i have a question..04:23
tritium__chris_: no-ip?04:23
ardchoillesethk: :)04:23
__chris_tritium yes04:23
__chris_:)04:23
tritium__chris_: no idea what you're referring to...04:24
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CrescendoI'm trying to find some data recovery tools that I can run natively in Ubuntu, and run on another drive, particularly an NTFS drive.04:24
nomasteryodaardchoille, what purpose for the script?04:24
__chris_www.no-ip dot com04:24
Skoojerr sethk, how do i get to/edit xorg.conf to fix my problem?04:24
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tritium__chris_: nope, sorry04:24
bertlacy812I just installed ubuntu and I never setup a username but I did setup passwords so needless to say I couldn't login when I first booted.  Is there a default or am I just missing something04:24
ardchoillenomasteryoda: Setting up a multi-user system so I can log them out when their time is up.04:24
nomasteryodai found a good example of kicking logged in users uses if else ...04:24
__chris_trutium good memory you got it04:24
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__chris_:)04:24
sethkardchoille, you capture the output of   whoami     which is the current user name04:24
__chris_thank you04:24
nomasteryodaardchoille, that should work nicely04:24
tritiumCrescendo: what's up?04:24
bertlacy812anybody have any ideas04:25
nomasteryodawill need to adjust to bash, but korn is not that much diff04:25
sethkbertlacy812, there is always a root account, and the installs generally create an account.04:25
Crescendotritium, I'm trying to find some data recovery tools that I can run natively in Ubuntu, and run on another drive, particularly an NTFS drive.04:25
Skoojerr sethk, how do i get to/edit xorg.conf to fix my problem?04:25
bertlacy812what is the root accounts user/pass04:25
sethkbertlacy812, if there is truly no user created after install, you'll have to boot a live cd or rescue cd and create the user.04:25
sethkSkooj, I use vi in command line mode to edit files04:26
tritiumCrescendo: ah, hmm, I've not used any...let me search around a bit04:26
ardchoillesethk: That will work perfectly. Thank you :)04:26
Skoojk04:26
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Skoojbut like, i don't know what to edit?04:26
dlihow do I make ivman automounting work in fluxbox?04:26
sethkardchoille, np04:26
bertlacy812I setup a Host name for my lan but that is it04:26
Skoojmeh, i'll just try using my onboard card.. see if that works first04:26
bertlacy812what is the root account04:26
nomasteryodait had to ask for a username04:26
bertlacy812username and password04:26
nomasteryodathere is not04:26
bertlacy812I swear unless Im really drunk right now that i never entered one.  I know this sounds stupid04:27
nomasteryodayour username and password ... use sudo -s04:27
nomasteryodalol04:27
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tritiumCrescendo: found one:  gddrescue04:27
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songo_how to apt-get install a local previous downloaded deb file?04:27
chiefinnovatorhi everyone04:27
cimonHi everybody: Are there ubuntu-related channels that focus on a particular part of the distro out there, like xubuntu channels, frex.04:27
Crescendotritium, alright, I'm going to give that a shot real quick.04:27
bertlacy812so when it asks for username just type sudu -s04:27
tritiumCrescendo: apt-cache search data | grep rescue04:27
nomasteryodadpkg -install pkgname.deb04:27
CrescendoRight now I'm WinEing a windows tool.04:27
chiefinnovatorcould someone verify that I'm in this room?04:28
chiefinnovatorI'm not sure if I need to register or not04:28
nomasteryodalol04:28
tritiumCrescendo: apt-cache search data | grep recovery, also04:28
spadeschiefinnovator registering is only needed for PM i think04:28
inonoCan I use win on ubuntu x64?04:28
chiefinnovatorspades, what's PM?04:28
inonowine ?04:28
tritiuminono: yes04:28
spadeschiefinnovator private messaging04:28
chiefinnovatorcool, so I'm really in the room04:28
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chiefinnovatorHere's a question for everyone04:28
nomasteryodachiefinnovator, oh yes04:28
noway-Is there a way to partition the drives after installation?04:29
chiefinnovatorI want to buy a low end graphics card04:29
spadeschiefinnovator unless im going more crazy than usual, yes, youre here04:29
chiefinnovatorwhat is most compatible with Ubuntu?04:29
nomasteryodanoway-, yes ... best to install gparted04:29
tritiumchiefinnovator: but how can you be _sure_ you're here?04:29
snoopsumm you can't use wine natively on amd64 inono04:29
noway-nomasteryoda, is it commandline or in GUI form :-D04:29
snoopsyou can have a chroot 32bit environment and use it on that..04:29
chiefinnovatorYes, yes I'm here04:29
inononoooooo ok04:29
nomasteryodagui04:29
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noway-nomasteryoda, sweet, thanks04:30
portalfirehello.04:30
nomasteryodagparted also rocks04:30
portalfireany experts on VNC or vine here?04:30
chiefinnovatorso what's a good graphics card for Ubuntu?04:30
Skoojchanging my card to the onboard in the bios worked. but err.. i don't knwo hwo to change the crap so my pci card will work04:30
portalfirevino04:30
ardchoillesethk: "if [ $(whoami) = user1 ] "  and   "if [ $UID = 1000 ] " will both work :)04:30
nomasteryodachiefinnovator, nvidia04:30
spadeschiefinnovator https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards?highlight=%28hardware%2904:30
chiefinnovatornomasteryoda, thanks.  Any particular one or do they all work?04:30
nomasteryodalook at spades link04:30
tritiumchiefinnovator: they all work, for the most part04:30
iiiearsnVidia has MUCH better drivers04:31
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Skoojlol nomasteryoda, i use nvidia and can't seem to get teh pci to work?04:31
tritiumThat _may_ change with AMD's acquisition of ATI04:31
nomasteryodachiefinnovator, if you want to play GL games and try out xgl and compiz, then nvidia ... not ati imho04:31
noway-Is it possible unmount the partition that is on / ? heh04:31
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nomasteryodaSkooj, wow04:31
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chiefinnovatornomasteryoda, will 128 MB cut it for games and xgl?04:32
nomasteryodanoway-, noway... unless you are on live cd and chroot04:32
Skoojlol nomasteryoda, i prolly installed wrong or don't know how to.. works with onboard but meh. dunno how to edit xorg.conf to work with my pci04:32
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nomasteryodachiefinnovator, should be ok but more would be better of course04:32
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noway-nomasteryoda, i getcha, thanks man04:32
nomasteryodayup04:32
nomasteryodaSkooj, so you want dual video agp/pci04:33
tritiumSkooj: look for the PCI id of your card with lspci04:33
Skoojerr lspci?04:33
nomasteryodayes04:33
tritiumSkooj: no err, just lspci04:33
nomasteryodaopen a terminal and typ it04:33
nomasteryodatype that04:33
Skoojoh ok04:33
portalfirei want to use my ubuntu headless. but when i dont connect a monitor and boot up, it defaults vnc's resolution to 640x480. can anyone help me?04:33
Skoojk brb04:33
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nomasteryodahttp://www.cs.vassar.edu/SysNews/vnc/resolut.html04:34
nomasteryodaportalfire04:34
nomasteryodatry that04:34
portalfirek04:34
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helpplzI dont get any sound when trying to play quake :( anyone now how I can get it?04:35
nomasteryodaportalfire, but you should put the info you require into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file04:35
nomasteryodagoogle for good examples04:35
chiefinnovatorOk I'm looking at the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards?highlight=%28hardware%29 page04:35
chiefinnovatorand it says "3D requires nvidia-glx, see BinaryDriverHowto"04:36
tritium!nvidia04:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:36
chiefinnovatorI'm ok with that04:36
nomasteryodafor true 3D04:36
Skoojok, tritium / nomasteryoda, it said the nvidia was "0000:01:08.0 vga compitibal controller: nvidia etc etc"04:36
chiefinnovatorbut what happens when I first install?04:36
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chiefinnovatorwill I get a gui?04:36
nomasteryodayea you will04:36
tritiumSkooj: now, you can specify the PCI id of your card in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:36
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chiefinnovatorjust not 3D or something?04:36
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nomasteryodaright04:36
Skoojk04:36
portalfirei tried everything that i found online04:37
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Skoojthen i reboot and it works tritium?04:37
portalfireincluding the link u just typed04:37
danny50010_I'm back04:37
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portalfireports other than 5900 dont work04:37
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portalfirek04:37
tritiumSkooj: I can't guarantee tht04:37
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nomasteryodakickem04:37
BioVorEfear the spam04:37
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nomasteryodathanks tritium04:37
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majdhey04:37
majdwould anyone please help me set proftpd up?04:37
dadgumitwhat's all the flooding?04:37
tritiumnomasteryoda: no sweat ;)04:37
iiiearswonder who got the last "haha" - grin04:38
majdi can't seem to be able to get any help on configuring it04:38
Skoojkk brb gonna try04:38
nomasteryodadadgumit, people who should know better04:38
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portalfirei have edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf. it had the driver set to vesa04:39
portalfireand the only resolution left is 1024x76804:39
portalfireyet it still defaults to 640x48004:39
veriquexbump04:40
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intelnuxhow can the firmware version in /lib change from one istall to the next off the same CD?04:40
nomasteryodaportalfire, did you look here? http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu04:40
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Meatwadhow do i change a single icon's image (not entire theme) to an image that is not present in the default set of "emblems"04:41
SuperMigueldoes any one know how to make ubuntu to see a sharing windows printer?04:41
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nomasteryodaMeatwad, right click the icon, click the icon in that dialog and point to the one you want04:42
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portalfireyep04:42
nomasteryodahmm04:42
portalfirestill no luck04:42
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portalfireubuntu uses vino as a vnc server right?04:43
DarkEDhey all04:43
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nomasteryodawelcome DarkED04:43
MojoRisoncan anyone help me....having problems getting codecs for totem....kaffeine is working fine...but totem not so much..04:43
portalfireso, does /etc/X11/xorg.conf configure it?04:43
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nomasteryodaportalfire, you could http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/x0.html04:43
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nomasteryodatry that one?04:43
chiefinnovatorok video card performance question:04:43
backwardshello!04:43
DarkEDso how has everyone been?04:44
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DarkEDits been... two months?04:44
chiefinnovator256 MB AGP vs. 128 MB PCIe04:44
Meatwadnomasteryoda:  i have installed IE 6 and would like to use the IE icon instead of the question mark it currently has, but i can't figure out how to add the IE image as an icon so i can pick it04:44
nomasteryodasupa DarkED04:44
nomasteryodalol04:44
nomasteryodaic04:44
nomasteryodaor ickky04:44
backwardscan some one help with a grub question04:44
nomasteryodaMeatwad, save the icon as an image... sure they abound on google image04:44
aeruzbackwards: what is the question?04:44
snoopsnot if we don't know what the question is!04:44
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chiefinnovatoranyone know that video card question?04:45
chiefinnovator256 MB AGP vs. 128 MB PCIe04:45
nomasteryodaMeatwad, that works for all.. you are using Ubuntu right?04:45
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nomasteryodaagp any day04:45
nomasteryodaimho04:45
iiiearscheifinnovator - grab the card 256 ram. - Why can't you have both 256/512 mbs ram and pcie?04:45
backwardswill im trying to do a install of ubuntu on a sata drive and when i reboot after the install all i get is a error 1 with grub looking for a floppy drive04:45
Flavwhich speed agp?  2x? 4x? 8x?04:45
chiefinnovator8x04:46
chiefinnovatorI only want to spend 10004:46
Meatwadnomasteryoda: yes, i have the png image in a folder in my ubuntu home directory04:46
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iiiears!grub04:46
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:46
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highphilosopherEHLO all04:47
aeruzmaybe you told grub to look for the root on the floppy disc or you told ubuntu to boot from floppy04:47
majdhey04:47
nomasteryodaMeatwad, anything should work fine then...l i just clicked a screenshot.png in my home and it stuck to my hifi.m3u file as it's icon04:47
chiefinnovatorI think I need PCIe actually, new mb's don't have AGP, right?04:47
majdwhat's the ubuntu equivalent of  # rc-update add proftpd default ?04:47
iiiearsbackwards - are you installinfg RAID?04:47
backwardsi dont have a windows install and the grub.conf is fine04:47
tritiummajd: update-rc.d04:47
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snoopschiefinnovator right.. new mobos generally don't have agp..04:47
backwardsno raid04:47
iiiearsbackwards - Oops, sorry. :x04:47
Flavchiefinnovator: the mobo already decided/bought?04:48
chiefinnovatorFlav, haven't bought one yet04:48
detienI just installed ubuntu. Ubuntu dected my NIC card and it's actived but when I plug in cat5 cable. It doens't let me get online. Status is Idle , Activity Received: 186 packets (27.6 Kb) . Sent 21 packets ( 4.0 Kb)04:48
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: So you have a preference on processor?04:48
detienCan someone please help me to get it work?04:48
chiefinnovatoryes04:48
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, yes04:48
ttyfsckerdoes anybody in here happen to have a Dell Inspiron 6000?  i was wondering what the battery life says from the manual, so i can put the values in on my battery monitor in xfce04:48
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: which one?04:48
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, I was thinking to get this one:04:49
chiefinnovator# Intel Pentium D 930 Presler 800MHz FSB 2 x 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core Processor04:49
nomasteryodadetien, open a terminal and type dmesg04:49
nomasteryodalooking for any errors04:49
nomasteryodanear the end04:49
Meatwadnomasteryoda:  thanks, it worked04:49
tritiumchiefinnovator: that's a great value now that Conroe is almost available04:49
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: If I could make a humble comment...04:49
nomasteryodacool Meatwad04:49
khaledguys, what is the best IDE for c++ programming?04:49
snoopscool - pretty sure the 930 has virtualization - meaning you could use xen and run multiple os's at once :)04:49
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, comment away04:49
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intelnuxwhen will core 2 duo be avilable?04:49
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: I have an athlon 64 3800+ Dual Core on ubuntu right now :)04:49
BioVorEintelnux: now..04:50
nomasteryodanice04:50
SuperMigueldoes any one know how to install a printer in linux that is being share in windows???04:50
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: I have never seen anything faster04:50
helpplzI dont get any sound in quake3.. how can I get the sound to work?04:50
intelnuxBioVorE who has it04:50
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, I definately want a dual core04:50
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tritiumintelnux: in about 3 days to large distributors at least04:50
khaledguys, what is the best IDE for c++ programming?04:50
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intelnuxnewegg?04:50
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: This thing RUNS :)04:50
iiiearsAMD is promising quad core - lol - can i borrow a grand in january? - lol04:50
nomasteryodaSuperMiguel, you need to point to the windows shared printer using samba ports04:50
majdhey04:50
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: and the price tag was not too bad.04:50
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, how much are those?04:50
majdi get this error when i try to start proftpd: Starting ProFTPD ftp daemon: failed04:50
tritiumintelnux: not that soon on newegg, likely04:51
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: It's on a Biostar Gforce6100 Socket 93904:51
snoopschiefinnovator but yeah.. the only thing I hate about my cpu - no virtualization :(04:51
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highphilosopherchiefinnovator: MOBO was like ~75 and the proc was ~25004:51
portalfirenomasteryoda: nope, still no new info04:51
SuperMigueldoes any one know how to install a printer in linux that is being share in windows???04:51
intelnuxnewegg is nice to deal wiht but they seem to lag behind on some things04:51
tritiumhighphilosopher: Core 2 is faster _and_ more power efficient04:51
khaledguys, what is the best IDE for c++ programming?04:51
portalfirevim04:51
portalfireor kdevelop04:51
iiiearssnoops - Is that across the entire AMD line? intel seems to have it on quite a few processors.04:51
tritiumkhaled: please don't repeat.  It's depends on personal preference04:51
highphilosophertritium: I haven't had a chance to mess with the core2 yet myself04:51
intelnuxI like them becasue they take a personal check04:52
chiefinnovatorsnoops, what does no virtualization mean?04:52
redcardI'm a fan of ajunta, personally04:52
tritiumhighphilosopher: nor have I, but I've read a bit on it04:52
chiefinnovatordo I want virtualization?04:52
khaledtritium: sorry man04:52
portalfirenomasteryoda: any other ideas?04:52
backwardsAfter reboot i get a "MBR Error 1  Press any key to boot from floppy..."04:52
highphilosopherOIC I must say it's about time Intel made something that can compete with the 64's in *nix world04:52
majdi get this error when i try to start proftpd: Starting ProFTPD ftp daemon: failed04:52
nomasteryodahttp://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/doc.html04:52
tritiumkhaled: it's okay :)04:52
iiiearstritium - 2 words "overclockers and returns - my own personal conspiracy theory. - rofl04:52
tritiumiiiears: heh :)04:53
backwardsany help would be great04:53
tritiumIntel regains the lead (at least for now)04:53
DarkEDwell, i wanted to say hi to everyone, let you guys know im back04:53
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: :) Just get a mac :)04:53
DarkEDill keep in touch04:53
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, really a mac??04:53
snoopsiiiears the am2 has pacifica which is amd's virtualization04:53
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backwardsi love my mac04:53
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: I'm on one right now :)04:53
nomasteryodahttp://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ or that one portalfire04:53
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backwardsi am too04:53
highphilosopherbackwards: do you have ubuntu on it?04:53
backwardsnope04:53
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, so you're running ubuntu on a mac?04:53
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: yes.04:54
backwardstrying to get that on my desktop04:54
tritiumchiefinnovator: you can04:54
snoopschiefinnovator if you don't know what it is, probably not :).. allows you to run multiple operating systems at so close to full speed you won't be able to tell the difference04:54
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: rather well.04:54
SuperMigueldoes any one know how to print to winfrom ubuntudows xp?04:54
nomasteryodai have kubuntu on the iMac04:54
iiiearssnoops - thanks, going to check that out. (hope it's affordable - feeding a recent addiction to QEMU)04:54
majdi get this error when i try to start proftpd: Starting ProFTPD ftp daemon: failed04:54
chiefinnovatorsnoops, but you can still run another os on any fast processor and it's not terrible, right?04:54
highphilosopherI bought an old imac G3 350 MHZ for like $80 and put xubuntu on it04:54
highphilosopherit handles great04:55
nomasteryodaSuperMiguel, you need to share the windows printer04:55
highphilosopherno lag04:55
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, so what are you doing with the atholon one then?04:55
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nomasteryodaSuperMiguel, then use the Ubuntu printer tool to find it... via the samba port04:55
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: I have a total of four systems here04:55
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SuperMiguelhow04:55
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, and what do you do with all those systems?04:55
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: I have my athlon 3800+ (server mostly)04:55
nomasteryodaSuperMiguel, just sec04:55
SuperMiguelok04:55
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: my iBook (laptop)04:55
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, I'm trying to cut back to one system04:56
SuperMiguelthe printer is sharing alredy04:56
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: my athlon XP 2400+ (wife's system)04:56
snoopschiefinnovator well, it's quite different.. xen a hypervisor which works at cpu ring -1 which basically means it's in the control seat, and dictacts what os gets what04:56
SuperMiguelbut i dont know how to find it04:56
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: and my iMac G3 350 (new toy) :)04:56
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majddoes ubuntu come with a built in ftp server?04:56
nomasteryodaSuperMiguel,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20501104:56
majdi'm really having trouble setting an ftp server up04:56
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tritiummajd: no, you'll have to set that up04:56
BioVorEmajd: its in apt.. there are several to choose from04:56
snoopstritium I think a conroe box will be ideal next year :)04:57
majdBioVorE, you were helping me earlier right?04:57
highphilosophermajd: check out the ubuntu guide.04:57
majdok, i installed proftpd04:57
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majdbut i'm having trouble configuring it04:57
Skoojerm, hey, what do i edit everything in xorg.conf to?04:57
tritiummajd: by default, it ships with no ports open, for security.  You have to setup services such as ftp.  (I'd recommend against ftp, actually)04:57
majdi've looked at every guide i can find, thery're all very general04:57
tritiumsnoops: I agree, but I'm building a cheapish media PC04:57
majdtritium, sftp?04:57
chiefinnovatorby the way, if I do get a dual core, do I need to install a special kernel?04:57
tritiummajd: yes04:57
portalfirenomasteryoda: still nothing. thx for trying. i guess i need to get  a vncserver clone04:57
majdwhat program can i use?04:57
tritiumchiefinnovator: -smp04:57
nomasteryodasftp is secure ftp04:57
nomasteryodausing ssh04:57
tritiummajd: sudo apt-get install openssh-server04:57
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: ubuntu handled that for me :)04:57
majdssh is sftp?04:58
chiefinnovatortritium, what's -smp?04:58
dibblegochiefinnovator, symmetric multi-processor04:58
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: symmetric multi processing04:58
Skoojtritium, what do i change everything to in xorg.conf? my pci number thing was much longer than that of my onboard card?04:58
tritiumchiefinnovator: see above04:58
highphilosopherhey kewl echo04:58
nomasteryodaportalfire, good luck..04:58
chiefinnovatorso I do need a different kernel?04:58
majdtritium, i thought ssh was a way to control the terminal from a remote computer...04:58
chiefinnovatoris it hard to install?04:58
tritiumchiefinnovator: no, it's very easy04:58
dibblegomajd, ssh is that and more04:58
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: ubuntu will auto install it in the setup04:58
tritiummajd: it has many uses04:58
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chiefinnovatoroh, so on bootup I do -smp?04:58
tritiumSkooj: just the PCI id04:58
majdtritium, what do i do after installing openssh-server?04:59
snoopssuch as you can tunnel vnc over ssh04:59
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: naa just let it run it04:59
tritiumchiefinnovator: not quite.  You'd install a different kernel image04:59
tritiummajd: that's it!  Just start using it ;)04:59
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, tritium why are you guys telling me different things ?04:59
Skoojtritium, the long number? for my onboard it's just 0:1:0... but for my pci card it's like , 0000:01:08.0...04:59
tritiumchiefinnovator: such as?04:59
majdtritium, no configuration? what username/password do i use? do i have universal access?04:59
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Skoojand what about teh driver, the driver is currently "i868" or soemthing04:59
chiefinnovatorso it's automatic or I do something?04:59
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highphilosopherchiefinnovator: when you install ubuntu fresh, the setup will install an SMP kernel if it detects the dual core05:00
tritiumSkooj: what was the PCI id?05:00
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highphilosopherchiefinnovator: IF you already have an existing install, you can upgrade your kernel05:00
snoopshighphilosopher that didn't happen with my 4400+ amd05:00
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, oh ok05:00
highphilosophersnoops: really?05:00
Skoojtritium, for which?05:01
tritiumchiefinnovator: either way, we'll get you setup right :)05:01
tritiumSkooj: the video card you want tu use05:01
tritiumto use05:01
snoopshighphilosopher yep had to manually install smp05:01
chiefinnovatortritium, highphilosopher, thanks I'm excited to the new computer05:01
highphilosophersnoop: odd, which version were you installing?05:01
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snoopshighphilosopher i38605:01
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: have you decided on a motherboard brand?05:01
tritiumchiefinnovator: remember, you always have friends in #ubuntu :)05:01
snoopsdesktop edition05:01
prophetwhere do you turn off the login screen?05:01
Skoojtritium, pci id for my nvidia pci card was 0000:01:08.0, and err, what about the driver? should i cahnge taht too? and the name of the card?05:01
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tuesdayWhere would a beginner look if they were seeking advice on customizing the look of gnome on ubuntu dapper?05:01
highphilosophersnoops: you need the 64bit edition to install on a 4400_05:01
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chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, I decided on this motherboard because it looked cheap and I couldn't find any complaints on it:05:02
chiefinnovatorIntel BOXD945PSNLK Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945P ATX Intel Motherboard05:02
snoopshighphilosopher haha.. well then I can't use flash or wine without emulating 32bit.. been down that road.. no thanks :)05:02
VitaminGtuesday: right here05:02
chiefinnovatorbut I really have no idea what I'm doing05:02
highphilosophersnoops: true dat05:02
tritiumSkooj: so that would be PCI:1:8:005:02
VitaminGtuesday: I'm assuming you're looking for new themes05:02
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: Personally I prefer sticking with either Biostar or ASUS05:02
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, why is that?05:03
tuesdayYes05:03
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tritiumchiefinnovator: ASUS rocks05:03
Skoojk, tritium, what do i call it for it's name thingy and uh.. what's it's driver (it's an nvidia)05:03
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tuesdayThemes, and a faster alternative to gdesklets if one is available05:03
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: better brands... they stand behind their product (and replace it if necessary)05:03
tritiumSkooj: one step at a time.  Let's just get it working, then we'll setup nvidia05:03
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: If you can afford ASUS is the king.05:03
Skoojlol k tritium :) brb05:03
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: If you want a cheaper good alternative, biostar rocks too :)05:03
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VitaminGtuesday: I don't jknow of any alternative to gdesklets, so that i can't help you with. for themes, go to http://art.gnome.org/05:04
tritiumSkooj: it may be best to first "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and see if you can configure it properly that way05:04
prophetwhere do you turn off the login screen?05:04
tritiumprophet: what do you mean?05:04
propheti dont want to have to login everytime05:04
propheti just want it to go streigh into ubuntu05:04
veriquexhe wants auto login05:04
prophetyeah05:04
propheti totally forgot where it was05:05
tritiumprophet: System->Administration->Login Window05:05
propheti had to turned off05:05
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skavengetuesday: gnome-look.org for gtk/metacity themes for sure, if you've got theme manager open you can drag .tar.gz'd themes right into the manager and they install - ive found that 95% work05:05
prophetim there05:05
prophetbut i cant find where05:05
linux_user400351can anyone help me resize a logical volume with ext3?05:05
tuesdayI found that this system runs exponentially slower than my home system, even though this system uses preload and my home system does not.05:05
prophetwhat to select05:05
SuperMigueldoes any one knows how to print to a windows xp printer from linux??05:05
bimberiprophet: Security tab, at the top05:05
chiefinnovatortritium, highphilosopher, biostar sounds good then05:06
prophetthanks DAMN i couldnt see that for some reason05:06
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: check out zipzoomfly.com. They usually have good prices05:06
tritiumchiefinnovator: if you prefer.  I'd go with ASUS, if you could05:06
chiefinnovatortritium, highphilosopher, if the price is similiar I guess I'll try asus05:06
chiefinnovatorcan I still get the same processor?05:06
tritiumchiefinnovator: you definitely want Intel?05:07
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: just be sure the socket on both matches up :)05:07
dribblesomething's borked with nwn and it's driving me crazy.  pfffbbttt05:07
chiefinnovatortritium, highphilosopher, I just thought Intel was better, no?05:07
chiefinnovatortritium, highphilosopher, again I don't know what I'm doing05:07
GigaClonis there any way to disable cacheing in Firefox for speific domains?05:07
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nomasteryodaSuperMiguel, look here dude... there is the answer... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=43575605:07
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: that's a personal preference05:07
redcardOut of curiousity.. I have a mac running ubuntu.. and I'm getting a pc running it.  Is there a way to export my apt settings and use those to "mirror" the new pc installation?05:07
tritiumchiefinnovator: depends on who you ask, and which product line we're talking about05:07
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: You can go either way05:07
tuesdayIntel is crud.05:08
chiefinnovatortritium, highphilosopher, well how do I decide!05:08
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tritiumchiefinnovator: research enough until you've made up your mind05:08
linux_user400351can anyone help me resize a logical volume with ext3?05:08
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: I like the athlon 54's, but the pentium D's are great too05:08
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nomasteryodatuesday, yea, but one thing for sure... my intel 855gm runs aixgl sweet05:08
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: DO NOT GO CELERON05:08
VitaminGtuesday: that's a good site too. once you're to one of the sites, go through the different categories to find themes you like. There are usually separate downloads for window borders, application themes, gdm(login screen) themes, and backgrounds.05:08
tritiumchiefinnovator: today, I'd buy an Athlon 64 X2.  In a few months, I'd but an Intel Core 205:09
chiefinnovatortritium, what's good about the athlon 64 X2?05:09
nomasteryodaspeed05:09
chiefinnovatortritium, is it dual core?05:09
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: dual core... 64bit...05:09
tritiumchiefinnovator: read sites like anandtech.com, tomshardware.com, dailytech.com, etc.05:09
redcardNevermind, I found it.05:09
Skoojtritium, err.. i saved the file and rebooted and got an xconfig error or something :S was i not supposed to reboot?05:09
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tritiumchiefinnovator: indeed05:09
jjohnhello05:09
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tritiumchiefinnovator: motherboards.org too05:10
VitaminGhighphilosopher: yeah, go with the Celeron D. The D stands for extreme. http://sleeping143.googlepages.com/celeron_banner.jpg05:10
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highphilosopherhahahaha05:10
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highphilosopherVitaminD: that's great05:10
chiefinnovatorI'm going to go read now05:10
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tritiumchiefinnovator: then, you have to think about cases, power supplies, memory, and what cards you want to put in it05:10
Skoojtritium, err.. i saved the file and rebooted and got an xconfig error or something :S was i not supposed to reboot?05:10
Skoojoops..05:10
VitaminGthanks05:10
Skoojsorry didnt mean to double send..05:11
tritiumSkooj: did you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and reconfigure it?05:11
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Skoojerr no?05:11
chiefinnovatortritium, I found this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681114802905:11
tritiumSkooj: that's what I suggested you try first05:11
Skoojlol didnt see that..05:11
jjohnI am trying to edit /etc/modprobe.d if I "sudo" it does not open. If I go through the file manager it does not save. can any one help please05:11
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highphilosopherchiefinnovator: when you go to buy, be sure to check out zipzoomfly.com, and geeks.com05:11
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, is newegg good too?05:12
Skoojk brb lemme do taht05:12
jrsims_hey, is there a way to make my entire meny bar transparent, including the task buttons?05:12
jrsims_menu bar05:12
tritiumchiefinnovator: newegg is pretty good, yes.  You might also look at Antec cases05:12
VitaminGcheifinnovator: newegg is awesome!05:12
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: yeah, they're good.05:12
prophetwhat can i view DVDs wtih?05:12
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: amamax.com sell good cheap cases too05:12
tritium!dvd > prophet05:12
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: but they are overpriced on everything else05:13
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prophetits just called dvd05:13
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, tritium what's good to look for in a case?05:13
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VitaminGbe careful with shipping in newegg, make sure you don't use the default UPS, pay a bit more for FedEx.05:13
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: look :) minimum 450 (naa 500) watt power supply05:13
Skoojtritium, is nv nvidia for nvidia?05:13
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: and looks05:13
tritiumchiefinnovator: cooling, noise, PSU05:13
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veriquexwhat's wrong with UPS?05:13
tritiumSkooj: yes, the open-source driver05:13
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Skoojok, so i want that one05:14
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: I saw one the other day with a turbine fan on the front (kinda overkill)05:14
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tritiumSkooj: later on, we can setup the proprietary driver if you prefer05:14
jjohnany one help with my edit prob??05:14
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SuperMigueldoes any of you have the plugins for mp3?05:14
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Skoojlol k05:14
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, tritium, do I have enough knowledge to do this?  I feel kinda overwhelmed05:14
prophetcan VLC view DVDs05:14
detiennmy ethernet card is activated but it isn't connecting. Can someone please help me to get it connect. I tried sudo ifup eth0 and it said that No DHCPOFFERS received05:14
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: you will the first time. Just take your time, read ALL the product descriptions etc.05:14
delaneyanyone able to explain how to use amsn and have the fonts not be all jumbled together05:14
tritiumchiefinnovator: you can do it!05:15
jjohnnot on my machine it cant05:15
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detiennprophet, yes VLC can view DVDs05:15
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highphilosopherchiefinnovator: listen, if you get stuck with a tough question and no one's on, you can e-mail me at sam@invalidpage.com05:15
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avisi'm having a panic attack because my amarok wont launch :(05:15
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, thanks, I'll probably come up with a lot of questions05:15
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: besides, once you do it once... from then on it'll be easy05:16
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: np05:16
redcardHoly crap.05:16
redcardWhy doesn't ubuntu install gnome-art?05:16
chiefinnovatorhighphilosopher, Can I also run my final specs by you before I buy?  You can tell me if everything will work together?05:16
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: sure, glad to help05:16
jjohnchiefinnovater is that an open invite??05:16
avischiefinnovator: a linux computer is not expensive05:16
chiefinnovatoravis, why not?05:16
SuperMigueldoes any one knows where can i get the mp3 plugins05:16
tuesdayWhich GUI do you all prefer? I've found KDE to be more looks than anything... XFCE is under-developed, blackbox is for developers, and enlightenment is a great idea, but to raw. I like gnome pretty well, however.05:17
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tritium!mp3 SuperMiguel05:17
ubotuI know nothing about mp3 SuperMiguel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:17
negativecreephi all05:17
prophetseems like easy ubuntu installed the libdvdread3 alreayd05:17
tritium!mp3 > SuperMiguel05:17
detienn!ethernet05:17
CrescendoI overwrote some data, perhaps up to four times over, on an NTFS partition.  What would the best tool to recover this data be?05:17
ubotuI know nothing about ethernet - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:17
negativecreepI can't seem to find /proc/net/ipv4 in my system..05:17
negativecreepwhich modules do i have to load to have it there?05:17
highphilosopher!Generally05:17
ubotuI know nothing about Generally - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:17
negativecreepi m running 2.6.15-23-68605:17
negativecreepubuntu 6.0605:17
highphilosopherhaha05:17
redcardtuesday: When I first got into linux, we didn't have kde or gnome.  But.. then I began to like KDE.  Gnome at the time was just a "KDE Sucks" type desktop environment.  Now, however, after having used a mac, I tend to prefer GNOME .. but there are kde apps that I run05:17
detienn!wpa05:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper05:18
avisprocessor ?  $100-$200 motherboard $50 ram $120 250 GB SATA $63  Geforce 6200 $40  Audigy value $40  case $30  pioneer dvd+-r/ram $4005:18
negativecreepredcard: can you help me man?05:18
highphilosopherruesday: OS X05:18
tuesdayI don't like KDE.05:18
tuesdayKDE's like that girl that's too pretty, almost to the point where it makes her a bitch.05:18
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Dasnipa`linux tolvolds doesnt like gnome05:18
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tritiumtuesday: easy there, cowboy05:18
tuesdayAll looks and no thought.05:18
jjohnsorry did not realise you were all so busy catch you later05:18
negativecreepppl.../proc/net/ipv4 is missing...what to do?05:18
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tritiumjjohn: it's always busy, stick around05:19
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highphilosopher!it05:19
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:19
tuesdaytritium: I don't know too many 13- year olds that have a linux box...05:19
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highphilosopher!that05:19
ubotuI know nothing about that - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:19
highphilosopherI LOVE bots05:19
tuesday!%N05:19
VitaminGredcard: I like gnome for the same reason. reminds me of the good old OS 7.1 days.05:19
ubotuI know nothing about %N - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:19
tritiumtuesday: okay...where are you going with this?05:19
zeppelin_tuesday, nice words about kde ... :P05:19
tuesdayYour remark was in regards to? My saying 'bitch' correct?05:20
negativecreepanyone who can help me out?05:20
tritiumtuesday: when I was 13, there was no linux05:20
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tritiumtuesday: please don't repeat that05:20
omaruHy, I'm trying to start apache2 but sends me this error "/usr/sbin/apache2: directory or file not found", anyone can help me to figure out what's happening here ?05:20
tuesdaytritium, when you were 13 I couldn't care less.05:20
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tritiumtuesday: lighten up, dude05:20
tuesdayomaru: updatedb - then locate apache205:20
negativecreephello..anyone?05:20
tuesdayand symlink05:20
Dasnipa`avis, if you are looking to build a new computer id wait just a couple months i think that athlon will have to lower prices more to compete with intels new line... id give the entire price structure just a little bit more time and you can probably squeeze an additional 40$ out of your cost05:20
highphilosophertuwsday: I know a few 13 year olds with linux boxes05:20
negativecreeptuesday: can u help with /proc/net/ipv4 missing on my ubuntu 6.0605:20
negativecreep?05:21
tritiumnegativecreep: please stop repeating05:21
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bigfoot1how do i read my floppy drive (a:)?05:21
VitaminGteusday: I first ran Linux when I was 12. didn't really like Debian, though. now here I am 4 years later running Ubuntu, based on debian05:21
negativecreeptritium: seriously running short of time..need urgent help.05:21
chiefinnovatortritium, highphilosopher, alright I'm going to go digest all the new info05:21
chiefinnovatortritium, highphilosopher, thanks for the help05:21
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: L05:21
tritiumnegativecreep: patience05:21
highphilosopherchiefinnovator: err K05:21
tritiumchiefinnovator: good luck :)05:22
bigfoot1i put the floppy disk into the A: drive. now what do i do?05:22
redcardOh, I did a package or two for Debian.05:22
redcardI quit when there were developers who were sending me death threats over wanting KDE.05:22
Skoojtritium, i went through that recoonfigure and uh.. it didnt work? went clear through it and it i get the xorg error thing again..05:22
tuesdaynegativecreep, I really have no idea.05:22
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avisok05:22
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negativecreepdamn...ubuntu sucks man.05:22
tuesdaynegativecreep, try tracking down which package provides it.05:22
VitaminGbigfoot: next, be thankful that you didn't cheap out on your computer and leave out the floppy drive.05:22
tuesdayUbuntu rox my sox.05:22
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tuesdayI really am glad that Ubuntu is doing so well.05:23
tritiumnegativecreep: what's the problem?  lighten up...05:23
NiteWolfubuntu is great05:23
tuesdayI ordered CD's a while ago (hoary) and didn't enjoy it too much05:23
avisanyone know how to set the GPG pubkey to kubuntu.org repository ?05:23
negativecreeptritium: there is no proc/net/ipv405:23
detiennubuntu isn't working for me :((05:23
tritiumnegativecreep: so what?05:23
bigfoot1VitaminG:  what are you talking about?05:23
crimsunavis: that's listed on kubuntu.org05:23
tuesdayBut now that my understanding has deepened I've been dropping the install CD in every system I come into contact with.05:23
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negativecreeptritium: i need it to change parameters05:23
tuesdaynegativecreep, find ivp405:24
tuesdayipv405:24
tuesdayand symlink05:24
redcardtuesday: Ubuntu seriously has reversed my opinion on linux05:24
tritiumnegativecreep: that hardly makes it suck.05:24
portalfiresup all. i installed vncserver on ubuntu (because vino-server wasnt working) and i get a blank x windows environment. no desktop] 05:24
negativecreeptuesday: how?05:24
portalfirewhat can i do?05:24
negativecreepfind ipv4 where?05:24
tuesdayThis system gave me a really terrible time with my Linksys wmp54g PCI card.05:24
tuesdayBut I fixed that today.05:24
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bimberiwith a symlink?05:24
bimberi;)05:25
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b14ck73425what is a good program for burning cds?05:25
negativecreepok i have run a find...lets see05:25
redcardb14ck73425: k3b05:25
tuesdaynegativecreep, 'updatedb' and then 'locate /ipv4/' and then 'ls blah blah'05:25
VitaminGgnomebaker for gnome, k3b for KDE05:25
bigfoot1how do i mount floppy drive?05:25
tuesdayI do like k3b05:25
tuesdayvery much05:25
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negativecreepthnx tuesday lemme try that05:25
b14ck73425can it burn mp305:25
tuesdaybut for some reason it won't burn mp3's (or wouldn't, I'm sure it's a decoder problem)05:25
SuperMiguelunable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds how can i fix that05:26
VitaminGI've honestly never used k3b.05:26
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tuesdaynegativecreep, look up a tutorial on symlinking after you've found the file05:26
skavengetuesday: you have to install one extra lib for mp3 support05:26
VitaminGdoes k3b have VCD capabilities?05:26
negativecreeptuesday: /usr/include/linux/netfilter_ipv405:26
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negativecreepsymlink to this dir?05:26
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tuesdayskavenge, I figured as much.05:26
tuesdayno you need to find the folder ipv405:26
tritium!enter > tuesday05:26
negativecreeptuesday: found none05:27
tuesdaynegativecreep, I do not know them. Look for the package that includes ipv4, or post something on the forums.05:27
negativecreepis it supposed to be in my /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net?05:27
Skoojtritium, i went through that recoonfigure and uh.. it didnt work? went clear through it and it i get the xorg error thing again..05:27
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negativecreeptuesday: i have an ipv4 folder in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/05:28
VitaminGtuesday: can k3b burn VCDs05:28
tuesdaytritium, You're getting quite annoying. Just let me chat in peace. My abuse of the enter key is hurting noone.05:28
tuesdayVitaminG, I believe so, but It's been a while since I've used k3b.05:28
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tritiumtuesday: keep the spam in the channel down please05:28
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tuesdaytritium, your warnings are making the spam in here worse.05:28
tokenbadok I can't access my konsole...it crashes everytime try to load it...05:28
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tokenbadalso I need to mount my drives in my fstab05:29
negativecreeptritium: didnt help..:(05:29
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VitaminGwho's spamming?05:29
varsendaggrtokenbad, is there anyother consoel that you have installed?05:29
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tritiumnegativecreep: you're trying to "echo 1 /proc/net/ipv4" ?05:30
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tokenbadvarsendaggr, no..this is clean install05:30
b14ck73425i have mp3 format music how can i convert and burn the files05:30
BioticProHow do I search the repositories online?05:30
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FlannelBioticPro: there's packages.ubuntu.com, but apt is 'online' too05:30
BioVorEmplayer can convert anything with audio and give you a .wav file to burn05:30
tritium!mp3 > b14ck7342505:30
highphilosophertoeknbad: you can always hit ctrl-alt f2 to goto another term, then ctrl-alt f7 to get back05:30
VitaminGb14ck73425: what do you want to convert them to?05:30
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negativecreeptritium: i am trying to echo "1" > /proc/net/ipv4/ip_forward only to discover that there is no ipv4 folder there.05:30
b14ck73425i want to be able to burn them05:30
b14ck73425on an audio cd05:31
tritiumnegativecreep: gotcha, one moment05:31
negativecreeptritium: i seem to be missing some module.05:31
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negativecreeptritium: k05:31
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BioticProFlannel: packages.ubuntu.com is what I wanted, thx05:32
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Skoojanyhow.. err.. yea.. i might just use my onboard05:32
VitaminGfor mp3's to work, just install all the gstreamer 0.10 packages05:32
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VitaminGexcept documentation and source packages05:33
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helpplzI dont get any sound in quake3.. how can I get the sound to work?05:33
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b14ck73425where can i get them05:33
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cimonanybody know why the setiathome package has such trouble connecting...?05:33
whitesuitwhat command can i use to specify the current directory i'm in? like ~ works for my home05:33
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VitaminGsynaptic05:34
highphilosopherhelpplz: does your sound work in other programs?05:34
helpplzhighphilosopher: yes05:34
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negativecreeptritium: i really appreciate your help man...05:34
Flannelwhitesuit: you mean to tell you which directory? or what?  'pwd' will print your current path (Print Working Directory)05:34
tritiumnegativecreep: no worries...still looking05:34
highphilosopherhelpplz: In the Quake 3 menu, there should be a sound setting, be sure it is pointing to the proper sound server you have installed05:34
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negativecreeptritium: thnx mate....but its weird.05:34
negativecreeptritium: check this..05:35
negativecreepxaeem@xaeem:/tmp$ sudo sysctl -p05:35
negativecreepdev.cdrom.lock = 005:35
Skoojhmm.. ill brb, trying something05:35
negativecreeptritium: there is just one entry showing up.05:35
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tritiumnegativecreep: okay, please don't paste, though05:36
whitesuitFlannel: no, an abbreviation, like ~ is for home and - is for last directory05:36
cimon"Setting up setiathome (3.08-4) ...05:36
cimonsetiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar not found in /tmp.05:36
cimon--06:31:17--  ftp://alien.ssl.berkeley.edu/pub/setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar05:36
cimon           => `/tmp/fileZr47Bb'05:36
cimonResolving alien.ssl.berkeley.edu... 128.32.18.17605:36
cimonConnecting to alien.ssl.berkeley.edu|128.32.18.176|:21... failed: Connection timed out.05:36
helpplzhighphilosopher: proper sound server? in menue all I see is to change the sound volume and the quality05:36
cimonRetrying.05:36
negativecreeptritium: sorry for that05:36
Flannelwhitesuit: er, .. is parent directory.  Believe those are the shortcuts05:36
cimon"05:36
Flannelcimon: don't paste in here please05:36
highphilosopherwhitesuit: is it . ?05:36
helpplzhighphilosopher: menu*05:36
highphilosopherhelpplz: ok, hang on just a sec05:37
Flannelwhitesuit: oh, the current one? yeah, . is current one, ./ is usually how it's used05:37
cimonFlannel: sorry, I thought that might have been helpful in diagnosing my problem. willco...05:37
helpplzhighphilosopher: okay05:37
Flannel!paste05:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:37
whitesuithighphilosopher: yes, thats it, thank you05:37
Flannelcimon: you can use that to paste lots of stuffs05:37
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tritiumnegativecreep: sorry, dealing with a disgruntled troll right now05:37
cimonFlannel, I do knw the point you are making, and it is good.05:37
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_gus_hi guys05:38
cello_raspcan anyone do `ls -l /var/` and tell me what the permissions of www should be?05:38
majdhey05:38
majdwhat ports does samba use?05:38
_gus_im trying to do a screencast with ffmpeg05:38
negativecreeptritium: its ok...05:38
_gus_and i get: x11: No such file or directory05:38
Flannelcello_rasp: drwxr-xr-x  10 www-data www-data  4096 2006-07-24 01:53 www05:38
highphilosopherhelpplz: do you have ALSA installed?05:38
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_gus_how do i know where my display is located ?05:39
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Skoojtritium, nm i just got it working on my nvidia pci :)05:39
highphilosopher_gus_: in what?05:39
_gus_im using this line: ffmpeg -vcodec mpeg4 -b 1000 -r 10 -g 300 -vd x11:0,0 -s 1280x1024 test.avi05:39
cello_raspFlannel: www-data is that default?05:39
tritiumSkooj: good deal.  :)05:40
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helpplzhighphilosopher: in kinfocenter it sais also emulation05:40
_gus_highphilosopher, the file, shouldnt be something like /dev/video0 ?05:40
Flannelcello_rasp: yep.  www-data owns the apache directory, you can change the username/group in your apache config file though05:40
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_gus_but i dont have that one :P05:40
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zazeemcan some one please help me with port forwarding bit tornado?05:40
highphilosopher_gus_: what for?05:41
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zazeem?05:41
negativecreeptritium: my bad.../proc/sys/net/ipv4 is the correct path05:41
negativecreepthnx man..leaving for college05:41
negativecreepbye05:41
highphilosopherhelpplz: I think your issue is that you need to install alsa05:41
zazeemcan some one please help me with port forwarding bit tornado?05:41
helpplzhighphilosopher: how may I go about doint that?05:41
_gus_highphilosopher, doing a screencast ?05:41
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Skoojthanks for the help tritium :)05:41
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highphilosopherhelpplz: This link has a step-by-step. http://knowledge76.com/index.php/ALSA_1.0.10_Setup_on_Ubuntu_Breezy05:42
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highphilosopherhelpplz: but I have never done this before.05:42
tritiumSkooj: you did it all yourself, buddy :)05:42
winmanhello people, I was wondering if anyone could tell me what these applet like things are on the desktop (monitors) http://art.gnome.org/screenshots/gnome214/13505:42
winmanI mean, how can I get them05:43
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cello_raspFlannel can you do me another favour and tell me the permissions of /var/www/apache2-default assuming you have one?05:43
helpplzhighphilosopher: you probably have more linux then I ever have ;)05:43
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skavengeanyway to get gkrellm to run in systray vs taskbar?05:43
helpplzhighphilosopher: i'll see what I can do <3 thanks for the help05:43
Skoojok, now here's the next thing, how do i update from 5.1 to 6.06?05:43
highphilosopherhelpplz: np05:43
Flannelcello_rasp: drwxrwxr-x  2 root       root       4096 2006-01-14 15:22 apache2-default  (not completely sure that's default though)05:44
zazeemcan some one please help me with port forwarding bit tornado? :05:44
highphilosopher_gus_: do you have any /dev/ listing for screenx or monx?05:44
zazeem:(05:44
BonezSkooj, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:44
Skoojthx bonez05:44
_gus_highphilosopher, let me look05:44
cello_raspFlannel thanks. i really messed up things XD05:44
Flannelcello_rasp: you can always just reinstall ;)05:45
cello_rasptime to fix mysql AGAIN05:45
highphilosopherzazeem: port forwarding through a router?05:45
_gus_highphilosopher, nop05:45
rob_pzazeem:  http://www.portforward.com/cportsnotes/bittornado/BitTornado.htm05:45
tritium!rules > uBANtu05:45
cello_raspFlannel: if only. next time I'll install the dev LAMP on VMware >:(05:45
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highphilosopher_gus_:  hang on 1 sec...05:46
iiiearswinman - not an answer to your question but take a look at "torsmo"05:46
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_gus_highphilosopher, sure mate05:46
winmaniiiears, alright great ..:)05:46
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zazeemhighphilospher: yes through a linksys befsr4105:46
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Flannelcello_rasp: er, why can't you?  Just backup stuff, remove it all with --purge, then reinstall as per the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP05:46
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zazeemrob_p: i have been there the tornado i have doesnt look the same05:47
winmaniiiears, looks good :)05:47
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cello_raspFlannel: because reinstalling takes too long05:47
rob_pzazeem:  All you need to know is the ports it uses.  Then configure your Linksys to forward those ports to the wanted host.05:47
zazeemhow do i know the ports?05:48
Flannelcello_rasp: just reinstalling apache et al, not ubuntu.  It'll take like... five minutes (plus download).  Assuming you've backed up your data files and stuff.05:48
zazeemrob_p: how do i know the ports?05:48
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rob_pzazeem:  What do you have it configured to use?  Is there not a configuration for it that you can check?05:48
zazeemthere is a preferences05:48
zazeemwhat is a good port?05:48
zazeemi need 205:49
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cello_raspFlannel: I assume you're not using ubuntu since I have purged the LAMP install only to have the mysql DB and other thing persist05:49
zazeemit says port range ----- and then to ------05:49
zazeemwhat is good?05:49
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goatmale0 to a billion ;)05:49
cello_raspaccording to the mysql people there is something rather wrong about the LAMP implementatin in debian and ubuntu05:49
SuperMiguelhow can i install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly05:49
SuperMiguelwhat should i write05:49
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rob_pzazeem:  Well, I'd say something above 1024.05:50
goatmalesudo apt-get install and then that stuff05:50
zazeemrob_p: so 1024 to ?05:50
rocketman768anybody ever seen, "modprobe: FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15.7/modules.dep no such file or directory" during bootup?05:50
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Flannelcello_rasp: I am using ubuntu, --purge should remove everything cleanly.05:50
goatmaledid you get that supermiguel? do sudo apt-get install and then the package.05:51
highphilosopherhelpplz: ok, all I can find is that erminals use serial port /dev/ entries05:51
highphilosopherhelpplz: you might look for a /dev/output folder05:51
Flannelcello_rasp: er, I suppose maybe not the databases, you might have to remove those, but I don't think you'd need to remove them anyway, they should just drop back in cleanly05:51
goatmaleyou might have to do sudo apt-get update first.05:51
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zazeemrob_p: so 1024 to ? what would you recomend? im completey port clueless05:51
rob_pzazeem:  Something *above* port 1024.  Typically it will be a high port range though.  You could use anything, really.05:51
zazeemrob_p: so would 1024 throug 4444 be good?05:52
helpplzhighphilosopher: I have a dev folder but no output folder in there.. only an input one and others05:52
rob_pzazeem:  How about the default of 6881 to whatever?  Sounds reasonable to me...05:52
varsendaggrhey how do i make a symbolic link to launch a program that has a static lib05:52
zazeemrob_p: the tornado default is 10000 to 6000005:53
highphilosopherhelpplz: sorry I could not be more help. I am not at home, so no ubuntu box here right now05:53
zazeemrob_p: but wont that make me vulnerable?05:53
varsendaggrwhat do i need to have for a shell script?05:53
rob_pzazeem:  What's important is that you then forward the *same* ports on your Linksys, to the host you want.05:53
Skoojerm.. k here's another question, why can't i connect to the internet? it's through a (wireless) ethernet adapter, but i connect quickly to my other computers, and the router itself (and i mean QUICKLY) but I can't get to anywhere on the internet (apt-get or anything)05:53
BioVorEvarsendaggr: a shell05:53
varsendaggrin the text05:53
helpplzhighphilosopher: it's okay.. maybe when im done installing also maybe would work :)05:53
varsendaggrthe shebang05:53
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goatmaleskooj what adapter?05:54
zazeemrob_p: can you please guide me if i read you what my router setting are? i have a port triggering and pot range thing05:54
highphilosopherhelpplz: oh crap... sry sent messages to wrong person05:54
tritiumSkooj: dsl/cable?05:54
highphilosopher_gus_: sorry about that05:54
varsendaggr#sh  something05:54
Skoojuh, it's an xbox thingy. but it connects through ethernet so it works just as if it was ethernet, and uh, cable..05:54
helpplzhighphilosopher: with messages?05:54
Skoojerr, dsl it's dsl sorry05:54
goatmalexbox..05:54
highphilosopherhelpplz: ???05:54
tritiumSkooj: Qwest?  Actiontec modem?05:54
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Skoojyes tritium..05:54
_gus_highphilosopher, im starting to think i dont have a monitor :P05:54
goatmaleI don't know if they have drivers on that to connect to the internet, does it work with windows?05:55
highphilosopher_gus_: lol. Ok, It's got to be in there somewhere.05:55
tritiumSkooj: figures...the dhcp server in that Actiontec is broken.  We need to account for taht05:55
tritiumthat05:55
helpplzhighphilosopher: you said you sent messages to wrong person.. with messages? installing also since I use also emulation or about the dev/output?05:55
faradayhey, everyone I got a problem running any java app such as limewire.05:55
highphilosopherhelpplz: the /dev/output messages05:55
Skoojgoatmale, i just setup the info into the adapter on my xbox and it'll work on ANYTHING05:55
rob_pzazeem:  No, I'd rather not.  I don't mean that in an offensive way, but no.  This channel is for ubuntu related support.  Good luck though.05:55
helpplzhighphilosopher: oh okay05:55
highphilosopher_gus_ brb switching systems05:55
Skoojso err, tritium, it wont work right then?05:55
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varsendaggrSkooj, xboxconnect is cool05:55
faradaythis is the error I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1883505:55
tritiumSkooj: you'll need this in your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf:  supersede domain-name-servers 205.171.3.65, 205.171.2.6505:56
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kazukisanI am on Ubuntu Dapper, i have a archos Jukebox Studio 20, with rockbox installed, when i connect with usb i cant mount it and dmesg says this -> http://pastebin.arslinux.com/354605:56
zazeemrob_p: well do i set the port range start and end same as in tornado?05:56
Skoojk, just anywhere tritium?05:56
goatmalekazukisan rockbox was awesome when I had my archos05:56
tritiumSkooj: you may have other DNS servers.  Yes, anywhere is goo05:56
tritiumgood even ;)05:56
dsterry_i wonder why dapper doesnt' have xchat or xirc installed by default05:56
Skoojok05:56
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kazukisangoatmale: did you get it to work on linux ?05:56
Skoojthanks i'll go put that in, will it work without a reboot or what?05:56
goatmalenope.. my archos broke :(05:56
cello_raspFlannel: can you possibly PM me.. i need some help purging the MySQL db before i start again05:56
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rob_pzazeem:  If you want all the ports forwarded then, yes.05:56
tritiumSkooj: what DNS servers do you have now in /etc/resolv.conf?05:57
Skoojerm hol on i'll go check05:57
varsendaggrtritium, are you helping Skooj  get xbox connect working?05:57
goatmalethe rockbox people have a nice IRC05:57
goatmalego check them out.05:57
kazukisanim there05:57
tritiumvarsendaggr: no, Actiontec DSL modem dhcp server bug05:57
_gus_hmm05:57
kazukisanthey are asleep05:57
weexvoice05:57
_gus_/dev/dsp maybe05:57
varsendaggrtritium,      i have that05:57
tritiumvarsendaggr: do you have DNS issues/slowness?05:58
_gus_nop05:58
varsendaggri have to do a script   to even connnect05:58
tritiumvarsendaggr: you just need to supersede domain-name-servers 205.171.3.65, 205.171.2.65 in your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf05:58
Flannelcello_rasp: you might actually have better luck at #mysql, I'm nowhere near a guru ;)05:58
varsendaggri have to manually change the nameserver to 4.2.2.105:59
cello_raspah well.. thanks! :)05:59
tritiumvarsendaggr: the Actiontec sets itself up as the 1st DNS server, and it bogs down05:59
tritiumvarsendaggr: yes, you may have different DNS servers.  Those 2 are for Qwest05:59
varsendaggrhmm    yeah that is what i do05:59
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varsendaggrqwest too05:59
varsendaggrso what should i do ?05:59
tritiumvarsendaggr: see above for dhclient.conf06:00
varsendaggris superseed somehting i need to add06:00
DR_K13http://x005.uploaderx.net/x/monkeyKnifeFight.jpg06:00
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Skoojtritium, before editing i have 192.168.0.1 and 205.171.3.6506:01
buzzedlooking for a new laptop...06:01
buzzedanyone want to talk me into a macbook?06:01
buzzedleaning toward a thinkpad06:01
buzzedfor ubuntu06:02
varsendaggrbuzzed, i am a big fan of the thinkpad06:02
varsendaggrvery tough06:02
Skooji'll go put in the others now tritium..06:02
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highphilosopher_GUS_: FOUND IT! it's /dev/console06:02
tonyyarussobuzzed: They do work quite nicely.  I'm skeptical about what will happen as things transfer more and more into Lenovo's hands and away from the old friend of IBM, but for now things are okay and the machine itself is great.06:02
_gus_highphilosopher, hmmm06:03
highphilosopher_gus_: l8tr06:03
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ttyfsckeri got xfce lookin pretty good on here with transparancy :)06:03
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ttyfsckerhttp://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=51141056544c596a745f50&p=screen06:04
ttyfsckercheck it out06:04
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_gus_if someone is fighting with the same06:04
sasquatchhey, is there a way to run gnome and KDE at the same time?06:04
_gus_that didn work :P06:04
varsendaggrtritium, how do i reset the server so that it works right?06:04
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buzzedi finally fix my metacity slow start issue06:04
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goatmalehow do I change my resolution settings?06:05
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diesehello all i am trying to remove ubuntu, from my computer, how would i get rid of grub and fix my mbr06:05
buzzedremoved my gnome/session file06:05
Skoojk, tritium i set it up and it doesnt seem to work, do i need to reboot?06:05
buzzedany thoughts on the t60's?06:05
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tritiumSkooj: no, you need to bring down the interface, and then bring it back up, or at least re-run dhclient on it06:06
goatmalehow do I change my resolution settings?06:06
tritiumbest just to bring it down and back up, Skooj06:06
Flannel!tell goatmale about resolution06:06
Skoojerr, how do i do that?06:06
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Flanneldiese: easiest way to install something else.06:06
tritiumSkooj: sudo ifdown eth0, for example, then sudo ifup eth006:06
skavengecan anyone help with NAT? I've got ICS turned on through firestarter, machines can ping each other but no outward inet from the secondary box? Even a good howto would be great06:06
danf_1979diese fdisk /mbr06:06
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goatmalethanks06:06
danf_1979from a msdos console06:06
diesedanf_1979: do i do this in windows or ubuntu?06:07
Skoojso err.. just like that?06:07
danf_1979windows, it will erase grub from the master boot record. You will not have acces to ubuntu!06:07
Flanneldiese: windows06:07
_gus_well bye bye guys06:07
rob_pskavenge:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/1/06:07
buzzedwhat would be the best multi os solution dual boot, vmware, paralells?06:08
danf_1979diese, first time in linux?06:08
skavengerob_p: this is two ubuntu boxes, no windows, this howto will work?06:08
buzzedi like to use ubuntu i need to use XP...06:08
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diesedanf_1979: no, just never removed it before, i have another old computer im going to put linux on06:08
tritiumSkooj: yes06:09
rob_pskavenge:  Networking is networking!  Yes, it'll work.06:09
diesedanf_1979 so i just open cmd in windows and type fdisk /mbr?06:09
buzzedmy employer uses windows specific apps... like gotomeeting06:09
tritiumbuzzed: personal preference06:09
skavengerob_p: thanks much i will follow this06:09
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zymorphwhat command do I use to unregister a service?06:09
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buzzedya , personal... preference...06:09
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danf_1979uhm, I think so... or you can do so with a msdos boot disk. I dont know. I haven't use windows since several years06:10
Flannelbuzzed: if I were you, I'd just install them next to each other.  You proably don't need to mess around with virtualizations06:10
rob_pskavenge:  The howto part of it is very generic to any NAT configuration.06:10
buzzedok06:10
zymorphwhat command do I use to unregister a service?06:10
dieseFlannel: do you know?06:10
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jmlhi06:11
Skoojerm tritium, didnt work?06:12
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Aushello06:12
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tritiumSkooj: no?  What's listed in /etc/resolv.conf now?06:12
Flanneldiese: nope, you might try asking in ##windows06:12
Skoojhold on06:12
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foobeartrying to configure snd (cmipci) to enable joystick without disabling sound.06:13
varsendaggrhey how do i cli make a sym link from programA   to /usr/bin?06:13
Skoojtritium. no change :S06:13
Jack_Sparrowdiese: you can boot a windows cd to a commmand prompt and fdisk /mbr06:13
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Aushow can I disable dhcp?I though I've done it but not sure because it hanged, I've apt-get remove dhc* and changed /etc/network/interfaces, anything else?06:13
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jmichaelxcan anyone help me out on getting a broadcom wireless card working with ndiswrapper? i had the thing working well, but i had to reinstall, and now nothing i do is working... i am using kubuntu06:14
foobearvarsendagger: ln -s /usr/bin ProgramA06:14
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dieseJack_Sparrow: I don't have my windows cd...is there any other way06:14
ic56zymorph: "unregistering a service" is a concept that exists in Windows but not in unix.  You probably mean "shutdown a server and remove it from the booting sequence".  The answer depends on the server.06:14
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tritiumSkooj: did you edit your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf correctly?06:15
Jack_Sparrowdiese: bootdisk.com06:15
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Skoojtritium, i put the supersede domain-name-servers 205 etc etc at the bottom and saved it.. lemme go double check06:15
varsendaggrsomeone plese help me06:15
foobearvarsendagger: but /usr/bin is a directory and ProgramA is file so make the link inside /usr/bin as superuser06:15
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tritiumSkooj: /query me, and we'll look at it together06:16
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varsendaggrahh that is it06:16
varsendaggrtritium, me to06:16
foobearvarsendaggr: ln -s /usr/bin/ProgramA <path-to>/ProgramA06:16
tritiumvarsendaggr: you got it, or need more help06:16
tritium?06:16
varsendaggrln: creating symbolic link `blender' to `/usr/bin/blender2.42': File exists06:17
Skoojoi tritium, lemme register my nick real fast06:17
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tritiumSkooj: okay06:17
varsendaggri don't know,   i'll need to restart.06:17
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dieseJack_Sparrow, which one do i delete06:18
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diesei mean download*06:18
Jack_Sparrowanything with fdisk06:18
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foobearvarsendaggr: Well, is there already a file or sym-link in /usr/bin of the name you're trying to create a new sym-link?  If so, you'll have to do something about that first.06:18
dieseso it doesn't matter what version of windows it says06:18
foobearAnyone familiar with configuring sound cards for ALSA here?06:19
dieseJack_Sparrow: i don't mean to be such a pain, but could you go to that website and tell me what to get cuzz i have no clue what im doing06:19
kitsuneofdoomI'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper AMD64 on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?06:20
varsendaggrfoobear, maybe06:20
weexi want to pipe irc to festival, what's a good irc client for that?06:20
foobearvarsendaggr, why don't you check?  `ls -l /usr/bin/blen*06:21
varsendaggri removed the sym link06:21
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varsendaggrak i have no idea06:22
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Bonezi've had an absolute of a day06:22
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foobearnot sure why you're trying to create a symlink for blender in /usr/bin.  If you've got blender installed correctly there will already be an executable there for you.,,06:23
varsendaggrln: creating symbolic link `/home/varsendagger/Desktop/Desk/blender-2.42-linux-glibc232-py24-i386-static/blender' to `/usr/bin/blender2.42': File exists06:23
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backwardsan any one walk me through a MBR error?06:23
jmichaelxcan anyone help me out on getting a broadcom wireless card working with ndiswrapper? i had the thing working well, but i had to reinstall, and now nothing i do is working... i am using kubuntu06:23
varsendaggrfoobear, this is the newest blender06:23
BonezHow do I install the mac/kde type "chooser" for gnome?06:23
_atomichello06:23
_atomicfun06:23
dEn__whats a linux equivalent of kaza or bear share. a file sharing software06:23
varsendaggrgift06:24
varsendaggrdEn__,06:24
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jmichaelxfrostwire06:24
Camdenhow do you type accents?06:24
varsendaggrfoobear, anyideas?06:24
foobearone sec..06:24
dEn__yes06:25
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dEn__varsendaggr:  any idea06:25
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mikebotcould someone help me with installing ubuntu?06:25
kazukisanI am on Ubuntu Dapper, i have a archos Jukebox Studio 20, with rockbox installed, when i connect with usb i cant mount it and dmesg says this -> http://pastebin.arslinux.com/354606:25
Camdenwhat point r u up to?06:25
foobearvarsendaggr: so you're installing from source, not a .deb package, yes?06:25
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mikebotCamden: me?06:25
Camdenyes06:26
mikebotCamden: Well, when I boot from CD, and choose from the list to install, I get like the loading thig, then I get a bunch of errors06:26
mikebotI have them written down06:26
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varsendaggrfoobear, it is a ./blender   i cd to the dir and run it from there06:26
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=== varsendaggr i should just go and get the source
CanadaGradeEhYes, finally have Dapper06:27
Camdeni have had that problem before06:27
CanadaGradeEhQuick XMMS question: Can I set my own custom hotkeys?06:27
Camdensometimes i just try it again06:27
mikebotCamden: i've tried twice06:27
Camdenis it a labtop?06:27
tokenbadok ran into a problem....I boot up and my panal don't show like it is supposed to...or I have it..then open a window off of it..and shrink that window back down...then my panel is gone...any idea how to fix this?06:27
Camdenlaptop06:27
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mikebotno, desktop06:27
Jack_Sparrowdiese: any of the windows oem disks06:28
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Camdencould be a bad cd06:28
foobearvarsendaggr: don't understand u.  The latest .deb package for Ubuntu is 2.4106:28
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jbrimbleWhere can I read about installing Windows programs with wine?06:28
Camdendid you try the option to check the cd?06:28
mikebotno06:28
mikeboti don't think so06:28
Jack_Sparrowjbrimble:  #wine06:28
mikebotdo i boot from cd to try that?06:28
Camdenyes06:28
foobearvarsendaggr: so if you're trying to install 2.42, where'd you get it from?06:28
mikebotok, i will try that06:28
mikebotand then try installing again06:28
mikeboti'll be back06:28
Camdenit is one of the options06:28
jbrimblenobody's there06:28
varsendaggrblender.org06:28
Camdenwhile it is booting06:28
mikebotthanks for the help06:28
mikebotbrb06:29
mikebotok06:29
Camdenyou have to watch carefully while it is booting06:29
TokenBadok ran into a problem....I boot up and my panal don't show like it is supposed to...or I have it..then open a window off of it..and shrink that window back down...then my panel is gone...any idea how to fix this?06:29
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Camdenit's a new install?06:30
varsendaggri can just run it from the command but   i want to symlink to the thing   but i think i have it figured out06:30
Jack_Sparrow!wine06:30
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:30
portalfiredoes anyone know how to setup the default desktop for vncserver06:30
portalfiremine comes up with a blank x server screen (x cursor,etc)06:30
TokenBadwhy is the panel in the new kubuntu disappering?06:31
foobearvarsendaggr:  well first you'll need to unistall the official Ubuntu release with something like Synaptic, then try to compile the source you got from blender.org (assuming its source and not a binary), and compile the source via the directions most likely in a README somewhere in the top level of the source.06:31
winmanmy desktop has suddenly gone all blank, no icons no nothing ... is there a way to recover?06:31
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pussfeller!restricted06:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:31
liquidten2winman: Is nautilus running06:31
bruenigwinman, no panels?06:31
TokenBadno panels here06:32
TokenBadand no icons06:32
winmanpanels are there ...just nothing on the desktop ..06:32
varsendaggrfoobear, i have a completly different question.06:32
liquidten2winman: run nautilus06:32
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CanadaGradeEhAnyone?06:32
winmanliquidten2, ok06:32
CanadaGradeEhlol06:32
TokenBadI can't get my console to load either06:32
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computer13137Hello.06:32
varsendaggrhow do i setup a script that would be run in a shell06:32
varsendaggrie export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=106:32
CanadaGradeEhI've tried but I can't figure out how to set my own custom hotkeys for XMMS. Is it possible?06:32
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computer13137I have just setup MySQL 4.0.24 on my server, and I would like to set a root password for MySQL to "thispass".  How do I do it?06:33
varsendaggri want to run that right before i run blender06:33
tritiumvarsendaggr: what's your status with the Actiontec?06:33
_nano_Hello, I had an original installation of ubuntu. I have made another installation of ubuntu in a separate partition for experimentation and stuff. Which grub menu.lst should I edit so that I can ahve the original ubuntu listed on the top?06:33
bruenigCanadaGradeEh, there is a program called xbindkeys and you can assign any command to any key or series of keys, if you can figure out what the shortcuts would be on the command line you could use that, probably a bit difficult though06:34
foobearvarsendaggr: could put it in your .bash_profile or .bashrc assuming you're using bash.06:34
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winmanliquidten2, I see several instances of nautilus running, but some of them have this --no-desktop argument passed to them ..06:34
foobearvarsendaggr: you're just trying to set up some system variables.  That's the easiest way to do that.06:34
CanadaGradeEhBruenig: Thank you. I'll just deal with the default keys for now until I get other priorities in order :)06:34
foobearvarsendaggr: Ah...06:34
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varsendaggrtritium, i am not sure yet06:35
varsendaggrfoobear, thanks06:35
tritiumvarsendaggr: okay...let me know06:35
CanadaGradeEhAnother question concerning hotkeys: My media keys on my keyboard.06:35
CanadaGradeEhWhen I push the up/down volume buttons, a little notification on the screen shows me that I am indeed turning my volume up and down. However, the volume doesn't actually change!06:35
InvisiblePinkUniwhat is the tortoisesvn equivalent in ubuntu for SVN GUI?06:35
TokenBadno panels here06:35
TokenBadand no icons06:35
Camdenno one knows how to type accents?06:35
TokenBadI can't get my console to load either06:35
InvisiblePinkUniubotu tell me about tortoise06:36
ubotuI know nothing about tortoise - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:36
varsendaggrok....  what do i add to the top of a text file so that it knows that it needs to run whatever is in the file as a shell script06:36
InvisiblePinkUniubotu tell me about svn06:36
_nano_!grub06:36
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:36
foobearvarsendaggr.  Create a script in a directory that's included in you $PATH.  If you call it "blender" that directory needs to exist in your path before /usr/bin does.  Best bet is to just call it something else like "myblender".  Should look something like this...06:36
jon27kc_nano_,  the experimental partition is bootable? Anyway, I'd assume you normally boot from the regular one, so change the list in there.  I also put a descriptive title to help me not get mixed up, too.06:36
bruenigCanadaGradeEh, that is the same for me, any graphical attempt to adjust sound does nothing. That little speaker that came on the panel by default didn't do anything06:36
kitsuneofdoomI'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper AMD64 on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?06:37
Camdenthe keyboard volume control works for me06:37
jon27kcbruenig, I find opening kaffeine or vls always sets some volume control to zero. So I'm in the habit now of looking at alsamixer or aumix before I start playing.06:38
bruenigI bet if I used the default sound from my motherboard, it would work by I have an extra sound card because windows wouldn't detect the motherboard sound and I couldn't get a driver06:38
_nano_jon27kc, yeah that partition is bootable. I have two partitions of ubuntu now. I just want to change the order in which they appear on the boot list. I was confused as to where I should make the change. The older ubuntu installation or the newer one?06:38
varsendaggrfoobear, thankyou06:38
foobear#!/bin/bash06:39
foobearexport VAR=whatever-you-want-to-export06:39
foobearexport VAR2=whatever-else-you-want-to-export06:39
foobear/usr/bin/blender06:39
foobear;06:39
jon27kc_nano_, you might as well change both.  That's what I do. I had a situation where I was always booting from the wrong disk, and never figured it out. It seemed to fix itself... ???06:39
Jack_Sparrow!pastebin06:39
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:39
foobearminus the ';' at the end, though that shouldn't hurt.06:39
_nano_jon27kc, the menu.lst in the older installation doesn't have any entries pointing to the newer installation :-S06:40
CanadaGradeEhAny idea how I can fix this? I'd like to control my volume via the keyboard06:40
_nano_jon27kc, in other words, the menu.lst is not dynamic?06:40
CanadaGradeEhOr will you recommend xbind again?06:40
nomasteryodaCanadaGradeEh, you should be able to map the keys06:41
nomasteryodadid you try that?06:41
danf_1979Is there any especial protocol to communicate with Ubuntu repositories? where can I find info about it?06:41
foobearNow, who knows anything about GD configuring sound drivers to use joysticks?06:41
nomasteryodaSystem, Preferences, Keyboard shortcuts06:41
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bruenigCanadaGradeEh, i have found attempts to control sound at all within dapper doesn't work, I just adjust my speaker sound with the dial, thankfully it doesn't default by turning the sound off06:41
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jon27kc_nano_, I'm not sure what you mean but I always hit spacebar if in doubt and choose what I want.  I also prune all those extra ones Grub puts in with every kernel change! Changing the ones I've already put in, if need be.06:42
romulowhats the edgy channel?06:42
CanadaGradeEhYes, that was an annoying problem with 4.1006:42
CanadaGradeEhI just upgraded06:42
nomasteryodaromulo, ubuntu+106:42
CanadaGradeEhNo, I haven't tried  it nomasteryoda06:42
CanadaGradeEhThank you06:42
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nomasteryodayup06:42
nomasteryodaworked for me06:42
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_nano_jon27kc, aah ok. really appreciate your response06:43
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jon27kc_nano_, Thanks...I'm new here and uneasy about making mistakes. But glad I can help.06:43
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ic56danf_1979: the ubuntu reporsitories are accessed by ftp06:44
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InvisiblePinkUniany suggestions for a easy to use SVN GUI06:44
FlannelInvisiblePinkUni: SubCommander is one of the few usable ones06:44
danf_1979ok ic56, nice to know that. Do you know any developer resources regarding this topic?06:45
InvisiblePinkUnithanks Flannel06:45
Flannelromulo: #ubuntu+106:45
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ic56danf_1979: it's a well documented protocol.  What do you need to do?06:45
Flanneldanf_1979: you can get them via ftp or http, there are RFCs all over the place06:46
BrokenSegueon bootup GRUB displays Ubuntu as an option 3 times, any reason why I can't delete the other two? (I haven't installed ubuntu twice)06:46
jon27kcBrokenSegue, I edit menu.lst extensively.  Grub duplicates entries almost every time there's a kernel update.06:46
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FlannelBrokenSegue: it should be multiples of two, a regular, and a recovery mode for each kernel you have.  You can delete the other two, just make sure you delete the right other two ;)  You might also want to remove whatever old kernels you have06:47
henzohi06:47
henzohello06:47
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BrokenSegueFlannel:right i ahve 6 in reality06:47
danf_1979ic56, search for files, only that till now06:47
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FlannelBrokenSegue: did you reinstall ubuntu? or upgrade your kernel?06:47
henzohey, someone can tell me were i find gnome themes???06:47
henzoplease06:47
BrokenSegueFlannel:I don't remeber doing either (I'm a noob06:47
BrokenSegue)06:47
jon27kcBrokenSegue, I just look real carefully to make sure they're duplicates, then cut away. And I keep one old kernel just in case.06:48
BrokenSeguethanks all06:48
FlannelBrokenSegue: are all three the same kernel version?  Or do they have different numbers?06:48
BrokenSegueFlannel:haven't oppened the file yeet06:48
FlannelBrokenSegue: and, instead of just removing them out of grub, you can uninstall them, via apt/synaptic/etc.  That'll remove their grub entries automatically06:48
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BrokenSegueFlannel:what will they be listed under in synaptic?06:49
FlannelBrokenSegue: linux-image-[versions] 06:49
jon27kcFlannel, the other day I did a regular upgrade (not dist-upgrade) and there were kernel changes and Grub put a new set of entries in menu.lst--duplicates, since this was not a new kernel.06:49
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Flanneljon27kc: er, what?  Kernel changes  = new kernel, which means you have two kernels to choose from (and two kernels installed)06:50
BrokenSegueLook like i have...23, 25 and 2606:50
FlannelBrokenSegue: right, if 26 (which is probably what youre running now) is running fine for you, you're safe to delete the others06:51
BrokenSegueFlannel:Alright, thanks again06:51
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jon27kcFlannel, Yes, sorry, I should have said they were minor changes--but that's a new kernel, right.  I pruned out the ones just before those.  Sorry for the confusion.06:51
dandesousaMay anyone help me with enabling direct rendering?06:52
Flanneljon27kc: right, except, if you only deleted the grub entries, you still have them installed06:52
jon27kcFlannel, Yes, I know; I have so much disk space it doesn't bother me. Sometimes in an idle moment I go uninstall such things, though.06:52
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Camdenuninstalling is for more than just disk space06:54
Camdenit can prevent problems sometimes06:55
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Camdenby making your system as simples as possible06:55
Camdenand helps narrow down troubleshooting06:55
Jack_SparrowCamden:  never head that before..06:55
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Jack_SparrowAlso gives you other bootable options when you have a problem06:55
Flannelnah, not for old kernels, they just sit and take up disk space.06:56
jon27kcCamden, I see your point...but it can also be disastrous: I found out by experience more than once! :)06:56
nomasteryodaJack_Sparrow, like keep'n the ship clean of the extra pirates =D06:56
nomasteryodaI love having extra distros to boot into06:56
Camdenthat is true... if it ain't broke...06:56
nomasteryodaesp since I manage a LUG06:56
jnsHow do I get Ubuntu working on a Macbook Pro?06:56
nomasteryodacool .. fun06:56
nomasteryodaI installed it on an iMac06:57
jnsWith intel?06:57
jon27kcnomasteryoda, I was proud of myself when I figured out how to run two X sessions at once so I could help a friend over the phone.  I'm not very advanced!06:57
Jack_SparrowThow them in the hold... never know when I may need them06:57
skavengegkrellm is the spiff.06:57
nomasteryodabut had to do the old trick of installing breezy then upgrading to dapper06:57
nomasteryodajon27kc, good for you06:57
jon27kcskavenge, I cannot live without gkrellm.  I feel lost and shaky.06:57
jbrimbleAnyone know where the Wine Terminal is?06:57
nomasteryodalinux opens so many doors06:57
skavengejon27kc: ive only just been enlightened and it is awesome.06:58
nomasteryodaand closes windows06:58
jon27kcnomasteryoda, and keeps me up so late...06:58
nomasteryoda=D06:58
nomasteryodallol06:58
nomasteryodaya i get up at 606:58
nomasteryoda=D06:58
Jack_Sparrowjbrimble: read some more... go to terminal and winecfg ?06:58
fyrestrtrjon27kc: like a bad drug habit06:58
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jon27kcnomasteryoda, sorry for what I just caused to appear...this is so confusing sometimes...anyway I was about to say I get an average of four hours' sleep.06:58
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DJRipperhello06:59
nomasteryodarecommended reading for the Mac is in this forum... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=13306:59
cykonjns:I don't think dapper supports macintel06:59
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cykon...but edgy should06:59
nomasteryodaya me too jon27kc06:59
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crimsuncykon: not officially but it works on some models.07:00
DJRipperorinoco-0.15rc4.tar will work with Dell Truemobile 1150?07:00
cykonah...yea i was only goin by the edgy future goals07:00
cykon:)07:00
jnscykon, I got it installed just kind of.. incorrectly.07:00
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jon27kcHas anyone here had the pretty widespread problem of Nautilus crashing every time, on account of not being able to allocate a huge amount, almost 2GB, of memory?07:00
DJRipperorinoco-0.15rc4.tar will work with Dell Truemobile 1150?07:01
jnsWhen I selected windows on refit it sent me to linux07:01
jnsI think I installed lilo incorrectly.07:01
Jack_Sparrowjon27kc: No and I run it as gksudo way more than I should07:01
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jon27kcJack_Sparrow, maybe I should try that. ;)07:01
Jack_SparrowI even placed a launcher for it on my top bar07:02
DJRipperorinoco-0.15rc4.tar will work with Dell Truemobile 1150?07:02
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jon27kcI don't use Nautilus regularly but like it sometimes. It will not run at all (at least with normal user) anymore.07:02
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DJRippercan someone help me?07:02
Flanneljon27kc: did, sometime in the past, you run it with sudo?07:03
Jack_Sparrowjon27kc: You have other problems07:03
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jon27kcFlannel, I'm sure I did run it with sudo several times (out of necessity).07:03
Jack_SparrowWrong07:03
Flanneljon27kc: then that's a likely cause of your problem.07:03
CrescendoI'm getting wretched quality from my onboard sound controller... I think it has something to do with my setting up of 3D sound.  What would be the best way to remedy this?  Is there a dpkg-reconfigure option?07:03
Flanneljon27kc: gksudo is how you run graphical apps as super user07:03
foobearDJRipper: What do you mean "work with"?07:03
DJRippercompadable to allow me to use the card07:04
jon27kcFlannel, Is that just a Gnome thing? I haven't had problems with non-Gnome apps as root.07:04
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tritiumDJRipper: are you sure the orinico module that comes with ubuntu's kernel won't work for you?07:04
Ubuntuhey dudes07:04
DJRipperim installin07:04
UbuntuDid you know that computers are now capable of mind reading?07:04
DJRipperive had the problem with an earlier buiuld07:04
Camdenkewl07:04
Flanneljon27kc: gksudo sets up root things better, if you run graphical stuff with sudo, you can mess up some configs.  gksudo for gnome, kdesu for kde, gksu for xubuntu07:05
Camdenwhat's on my mind, then?07:05
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UbuntuAnyone know how this is possible? http://revver.com/video/4031107:05
UbuntuI didn't know a computer could do that...07:05
foobearUbuntu: Big deal.  So is the NSA.07:05
jon27kcFlannel, That's totally new for me.  Thanks.  I will copy that and refer to it.07:05
Ubuntulol foobear07:05
Camdennsa = ... (oops can't say it in this room)07:05
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DJRipperlol07:06
efuzzyonei get aticonfig not found, what package should I install for it to be there?07:06
FlannelUbuntu: because none of the cards in the latter screen are in the former.  But #ubuntu isn't the correct place for this, #ubuntu-offtopic is07:06
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Nekow42How much of a performance increase will I see switching from the generic 386 kernel to the K7?07:07
jon27kcI read about the computer that responds to brain impulses. I'm sure it has promise but it's pretty elementary right now.07:07
Jack_Sparrowjon27kc: A better approach is the seal team using sensors on the tongue to relay info to the divers07:08
skavengejon27kc: not that elementry, they use them with parapalegics07:08
Jack_Sparrowsorry for the off topic.. goodnight all07:08
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CrescendoHow would I go about enabling 5.1 channel audio on my audio controller, a three port setup... in Windows I would enable "Mic as Rear Out" option... ?07:08
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FlannelNekow42: well, 386 can't use any of the additional pipelines07:08
Nekow42Flannel: Is it worth it, then?07:09
skavengei tried updating to the 686 kernel on this celeron M processor in this laptop and it -crawled- compared to 386 ;/07:09
FlannelNekow42: well, considering it's hardly any trouble to change, I'd say yes07:09
Nekow42Flannel: Cool. I'm actually asking in retrospect, I've already done it...07:10
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Nekow42Flannel: Thanks a bundle, I'll dump the 386 off my machine, free up ~80MB07:10
blindACK! Someone help :[07:11
blindhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1883707:11
FlannelNekow42: if you've updated recently, I suggest letting it sit for a while, make sure your box doesnt have issues with the new kernel, before removing it07:11
ToHellWithGAholla ballas.  i just install aiglx and like it.  how can i setup something similar to MS Remote Desktop?  I've used VNC in the past and found it rather inferior.07:11
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Camdenit is a stupid card trick07:12
snoopsToHellWithGA ah well.. vnc, another option is freenx/nx server07:12
Camdenmade into a movie07:12
snoopsnx server and nx client I've found is SOO fast it's ridiculous07:13
ToHellWithGAsnoops: is there a client for windoze?07:13
Camdennamely none of the cards in the first display are in the second display07:13
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snoopsyes ToHellWithGA07:13
jon27kcGoing to go see if I can fix Nautilus.07:13
ToHellWithGAok.  thanks snoops, i'll look into freenx07:13
snoopsToHellWithGA the only thing though..you can't connect to a specified session with nx..07:13
snoopsit creates a new session07:13
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snoopsyou can create a session with nx, then suspend it and reconnect to the same one later07:14
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MojoRisonhello......can anyone help me, having a hell of a time getting my java to work on a new install07:14
snoops!java07:14
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:15
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ron999ic56 are you busy?07:15
ToHellWithGAsnoops: i'm not too picky on the session.  it's easy enough to kill a process and restart it in the new X session07:15
snoopsToHellWithGA :)07:16
DJRipperCan you kill a windows pc from ubuntu, like shut it down?07:16
DJRipperor restart?07:16
fyrestrtrblind: what are you trying to accomplish?07:16
blindfyrestrtr: I've fixed it now.07:16
blindThank you though :] 07:16
Nekow42DJRipper: Through VNC...07:16
skavengeDJRipper: ifyou throw it hard enough at the window machine sure07:16
ron999henry54 are you busy?07:16
fyrestrtrDJRipper: pull the power plug.07:17
DJRipperlol07:17
prophetfirefox keeps crashing for some reason... where are the crash logs07:17
snoopsDJRipper you could login through rdesktop and do it..also if you're on a domain07:17
DJRipperVNC?07:17
snoopsI believe you can issue commands07:17
henry54ron999 sort of... but go ahead.07:17
MojoRisonthanks snoops......going to try it out07:17
Nekow42DJRipper: http://www.tightvnc.com/07:17
DJRipperanything specific have to be loaded on the winblows terminal?07:17
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ron999henry54 when you are not busy please will you help me again with floppy disk problem07:18
prophet?07:18
fyrestrtrDJRipper: you need to enable remote desktop, and must login with an account that [a]  has a password [b]  has administrative rights (or) has been specifically allowed to login to remote desktop.07:18
efuzzyonei get aticonfig not found, what package should I install for it to be there?07:18
snoopshmm if you can run mmc computer management on wine you can use that to shutdown other windows pcs on the network DJRipper07:19
fyrestrtr!ati > efuzzyone07:19
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DJRippersnoops thats what i want to do07:19
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fyrestrtrDJRipper: are you really that lazy that you can't walk up and unplug it? :P07:19
Nekow42DJRipper: But, you want to do it without installing anything on the win box?07:20
henry54ron999 let's come back to my questions from yesterday: does the floppy show up properly if you enter the BIOS at reboot? do you know what the BIOS is and how to get there? (it varies depending on the motherboard manufacturer of your PC)07:20
mil000000alguien habla espaol?07:20
fyrestrtr!es07:20
Hobbsee!es07:20
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:20
ron999henry54 can you open a room here?07:20
DJRipperexactaly07:20
h3h_timo!ati07:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:20
h3h_timo!xgl07:20
henry54ron999 i'm on #sydney07:20
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:20
snoopsDJRipper let me have a quick look07:21
DJRipperkk07:21
ron999henry54 i don't understand #sydney?07:21
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henry54ron999 irc channel #sydney, as opposed to #ubuntu07:21
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fyrestrtrron999: he means : type /join #sydney07:21
Nekow42Hmm... How do I get foreign characters to stop looking like ? in nautilus?07:21
ron999henry54 i will try that07:22
henry54ron999 how in the world are you connected to this channel? via some web interface ?07:22
cyphase*sigh*07:22
henry54tell me about it...07:22
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snoopsDJRipper http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/60324-remote-shutdown-windows-linux-box.html <- that looks good.. the python script - 4th post07:23
Nekow42henry54: Currenly, you're connected to the Ubuntu channel... Channel in IRC is what you would refer to as a "Chatroom" in other online chat sites07:23
odatanyone up for reviewing a new open source service?07:23
cyphasewhat service?07:23
fyrestrtrodat: that does what?07:23
odatfossystems.com07:23
DJRipperwhats default user on fresh install07:24
prwlrhello, how can i use the package files installed in a net-connected box to a box with no internet?07:24
fyrestrtrwhat does it do?07:24
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fyrestrtrDJRipper: on windows?07:24
henry54ok. all this fancy new stuff... chatroom... :-)07:24
MojoRisonthanks snoop07:24
DJRipperUbuntu07:24
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odati need feedback since i'm close to launching it07:24
cyphasehmm07:24
cyphaseyou need javascript enabled for it to even load07:24
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zcat[1] good concept; nobody sells preinstalled linux...07:25
DJRipperwhats default user on fresh install07:25
DJRipperUbuntu07:25
FlannelDJRipper: whatever you set it up for07:25
zcat[1] otoh I probably wouldn't want someone else's idea of a good install..07:25
DJRipperi didnt set a user up07:26
DJRipperit*07:26
Nekow42odat: No doctype tag, or character encoding...07:26
FlannelDJRipper: yes you did.  It asked you for a username and password while you were installing.  Unless this is a OEM installation?07:26
odatNekow42, not sure what you mean07:26
zcat[1] DJRipper: If you don't enter a username and password the installer won't continue afaik. There is no default user, you have to enter something to do an install.07:26
odatcyphase, would a metatag be better?07:27
DJRipperfresh install oem07:27
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cpk2odat: why cant i open the help column tab links in a new column? i hate being forced to open new windows07:27
Nekow42odat: http://tinyurl.com/ma5gx07:27
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bruenigIf I wanted to remove all the files in a directory, without removing the directory itself, is there a way to do that? i.e. some simple command07:28
FlannelDJRipper: ah, that's different then.  You need to run... sudo oem-config-prepare  if you need to login, the user is 'oem'07:28
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DJRipperoem was it07:28
DJRipperlol07:28
zcat[1] rm -rf foo/* will remove everything in /foo but not foo itself..07:28
fyrestrtrprwlr: copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives/07:28
bruenigzcat[1] , thanks07:29
Nekow42bruenig: A warning, that will remove evcerying in directories below that one too...07:29
FlannelDJRipper: once you are in, run that oem-config-prepare (if you're not already setup to reconfigure everything), to finish up the installation (you'll need to reboot)07:29
prwlrfyrestrtr, do i need to point the repositories to /var/cache/apt/archives? or can apt-get install this_app work after the copy?07:29
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Nekow42*everything07:29
bruenigNekow42, yeah I know, I didn't even think about using the wildcard character,07:30
fyrestrtrprwlr: no, just copy whatever is in the net-connected pc's /var/cache/apt/archives directory to the non-net one, then just issue apt-get install as normal07:30
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prwlrfyrestrtr, great thanks dude07:30
zcat[1] if you want to remove all the files and leave the directory structure; find foo/ -type f -exec rm {} \;07:31
fyrestrtrprwlr: later, you can setup an apt proxy or cache so you don't have to keep doing this :)07:31
prwlrfyrestrtr, one more question: does this /var/cache/apt/archives contents get deleted automatically through time? i mean doesn't this get cleaned periodically or something?07:31
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fyrestrtrprwlr: only if you issue apt-get clean07:31
fyrestrtrprwlr: otherwise, I don't think it does07:32
prwlrfyrestrtr, ah yes thanks, how's that apt proxy or cache thingie work?07:32
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Nekow42fyrestrtr: Thatnks for the reminder07:32
zcat[1] there's settings under spftware properites iirc to clean it out after packages are applied, or after they've been superceeded, or whenever...07:32
fyrestrtrprwlr: look it up, you have to edit the sources list07:32
acadwhats the best tool to use for remastering ubuntu? all i want is something that works with the 6.06 version07:32
acador a tutorial that is up to date with it07:33
fyrestrtracad: what do you mean 'remaster'?07:33
prwlrfyrestrtr, ok thanks much! have a good day07:33
acadfyrestrtr to add a program07:33
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sparkman!mplayer07:33
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer07:33
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.07:33
fyrestrtrany program, or a specific program?07:33
odatok javascript out07:33
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odatmetatag in07:33
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acadfryrestr a specific program07:33
odatanymore suggestions?07:33
fyrestrtracad: like what?07:34
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acadfyrestrtr what difference does it make?07:34
fyrestrtrI don't understand what you want to do.07:34
acadfyrestrtr if you don't understand what i want to do then you don't know the answer07:34
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fyrestrtryou may not know how to ask the question properly.07:34
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highphilosopheracad: what's they question07:35
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Nekow42fyrestrtr: I think he wants to create his own custom install disk07:35
fyrestrtrI may know the answer, but I can't understand your question. Its happened before.07:35
odatcyphase, i change it so you don't need javascript to get to it07:35
acadhighpilosopher i'm looking for a tutorial on remastering (it seems to be called customizing in ubuntu land)07:35
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highphilosopheracad: hang on...07:36
fyrestrtracad: you need the oem tools, which are on the alternate install cd.07:36
acadfyrestrtr it is a very simple question,07:36
highphilosopheracad: you looking for live bootable? or install?07:36
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highphilosopheracad: or both?07:36
sparkmanany reason why # apt-get -t edgy install perl perl-base perl-modules # doesn't work?07:36
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acadhighphilosopher the 6.06tls version that is both a live cd and install07:36
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highphilosopherk07:36
fyrestrtracad: you could have said, "Hey, how do I make a custom livecd using the 6.06 as a template?" that would have made sense.07:37
highphilosopheracad: here ya go... http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm07:37
fyrestrtrodat: what does your service do exactly?07:38
acadhighphilosopher that is nice, what i'm having problems with is that with 6.06tls it crashs when i get to the squash part of the tutorial... i suspect something changed as i check the md5sum, ram, and disk space.07:38
highphilosopheracad: hmmm, any error msgs, or just a dead crash?07:39
mineraleI've been hearing about AOL all my life, never seen it or tried it, now that they have the free plans, I called in and I got my aol account --- free, anyone here ever used it?07:39
odatits a place designated and unified for all the open source system builder creators07:39
eobanbminerale, for free..?07:39
fyrestrtrminerale: call, and cancel. Its not worth it.07:39
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sparkmanacad: memtest86+? :)07:39
acadhibhphiloxophdf segmentation fault07:40
mineralefyrestrtr: did I mention aol is free now ?07:40
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sparkmanso does anyone know why apt-get -t edgy doesn't work? :)07:40
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fyrestrtrminerale: I heard you, call and cancel. You could have gotten it for free before too.07:40
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kuWhoa, why is my music playing at like 1.5x the normal speed? lol07:40
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fyrestrtrminerale: I know people using it for 3 years for free.07:40
jipi!wmv07:40
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fyrestrtrsparkman: try asking in #ubuntu+107:40
sparkmanfyrestrtr: +1?07:41
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mineraleis it possible to sign on AOL but not sign on the IM ?07:41
kunono, i think it's my computer... often, my computer's clock will run faster and whatnot... and i guess it affects media in linux07:41
bruenigminerale, watch out when canceling, might get something like this, http://media.putfile.com/AOL-Cancellation07:41
fyrestrtrbruenig: lol that's a classic.07:41
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fyrestrtrsparkman: yes, that's the channel for development versions of ubuntu07:41
mineralebruenig: they change the procedure, I called, the lady was nice, and no kidding they have a free plan now,, completely free, that bad publicity must have pushed them07:42
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acadhighphilosopher any suggestions on the segmentation fault issue?07:42
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Nekow42acad: Run memtest86+07:43
highphilosopheracad: I don't know honestly, Usually segmentation faults happen because of lack of disk space or lack of RAM.07:43
Flannelsparkman: which ubuntu mirror are you using?07:43
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mineralebruenig: http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/636194/07:43
bruenigminerale, i tried to cancel with them, it was pretty funny, not as bad as that but they were certain that this was one of the worse decisions of my life07:43
highphilosopheracad: how much RAM do you have / how big is the squashfs?07:43
cvpanyone: good GPL/OSS media player to play commercial DVD's?07:43
eobanb!restricted07:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:43
acadhighphilosopher my ram is 512mb and i made a 2gb swap07:43
tsumecvp: xine, mplayer, many07:43
cvptsume: which do you use / recommend?07:44
tsumecvp: you must learn how to download the css decoder07:44
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sparkmanFlannel: 6.06 TLS07:44
_atomicsup?07:44
tsumecvp: depends how I'm feeling :)07:44
Nekow42cvp: Totem can do it, look into easyubuntu07:44
avishas anyone used k9copy ?07:44
cvptsume: "css decoder?"07:44
highphilosopheracad: that should be plenty, unless you MAY have a bad stick of RAM?07:44
Flannelsparkman: er, no. Which mirror, ie the url in your sources.list07:44
highphilosopheracad: I don't see anything else that could be causing the problem07:44
acadhighphilosopher hmm i doubt it is my ram07:44
cvpNekow42: i've never liked totem - is that unfounded?07:44
sparkmanFlannel: oh, should be the official us mirror07:44
tsumeNekow42: some people perfer the real thing07:44
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Nekow42cvp: which player do you use?07:45
Flannelsparkman: that's probably why.  Edgy isn't distributed to the mirrors, just archive.ubuntu.com, as far as I know.07:45
cvpNekow42: mostly VLC, but i'm not liking what it's doing with DVD's07:45
highphilosopheracad: You might submit a bug report on the squashfs tree07:45
tsumewha... php is slower than ruby? XD07:45
cvptsume: what's a css decoder?07:45
_atomicgood07:45
tsumehttp://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html07:45
Nekow42cvp: xine has excellent support, along with whatever frontend you choose07:45
cvpNekow42: my brother suggested gxine - is that any good?07:45
acadhmm  maybe i'll just base it off 6.04, is that stable?07:46
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boingolovlol, php is not slower than ruby07:46
cvpNekow42: (i run GNOME)07:46
boingolovevar07:46
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boingoloveven ruby on rails07:46
fyrestrtrcvp: content scrambling system = css -- what is used to encrypt dvds07:46
sparkmanFlannel: ah, ok07:46
Nekow42cvp: Never used it, but xine plays dvds perfectly, and gxine is just a frontend, so it should too07:46
Flannelsparkman: although, I don't imagine trying to use edgy packages in breezy is a good idea.07:46
cvpfyrestrtr: any recommendations for a css decoder then?07:46
cvpNekow42: Thanks!07:46
Nekow42cvp: youll need libdvdcss07:46
Nekow42cvp: I think it's called that...07:47
sparkmanFlannel: heh, so what's the best way to get up-to-date perl packages?07:47
bruenigcvp, as long as you aren't in America, because that is illegal :D07:47
boingolovspark, perl -MCPAN -e shell07:47
boingolovas root07:47
cvpPackage libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:47
cvpThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:47
cvpis only available from another source07:47
sparkmanboingolov: binary please07:47
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Nekow42cvp: Heard of easyubuntu?07:47
brueniglibdvdcss, cannot be downloaded in the repos07:48
highphilosopheracad: should be07:48
cvpNekow42: nope07:48
boingolovspark, do you mean the perl interpreter itsself, or perl packages?07:48
bruenig!libdvdcss07:48
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:48
sparkmanboingolov: interpreter07:48
cvpbruenig: I thought it's illegal to try to redistribute bootleg coppies07:48
fyrestrtrcvp: read the restricted formats wiki entry07:48
highphilosophertsume:  that cannot be right07:48
boingolovspark, then use apt-get or synaptics07:48
brueniguse that SeveasPackages link07:48
Nekow42cvp: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html07:48
Flannelsparkman: compile them yourself, look for a deb at an unofficial repository, see if it's in backports07:48
sparkmanboingolov: i did, but it's not available from the dapper repository :)07:48
boingolovreally?07:49
sparkmanFlannel: ok, where can i find a dapper backports repostiory? wiki.ubuntu.org ?07:49
boingolovI have perl installed07:49
sparkmanboingolov: not 5.8.807:49
highphilosophertsume:  hang on lemme run this code on my ws07:49
boingolovcan't remember where I grabbed it from07:49
bruenigcvp, if you use the Seveas Packages, you can install it via apt-get07:49
boingolovwell, if you want new perl, you will have to compile it ;)07:49
boingolovthen do something like checkinstall07:49
boingolovor you can compile it via cpan07:49
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boingolovwhich would be invoked via:07:49
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boingolovperl -MCPAN -e shell07:50
boingolovHEHE07:50
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Flannel!tell sparkman about easysource~07:50
ubotuI know nothing about easysource~ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:50
Flannel!tell sparkman about easysource07:50
bruenigcvp, or you can just use this http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/pool/libdvdcss/1.2.8/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1_i386.deb07:50
ku!antivirus07:50
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus07:50
ku^^ k07:50
sparkmanFlannel: ok, thanks :)07:50
cmug"We're sorry; the installer crashed. Please file a bug report at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug and a developer will attend to the problem as soon as possible."07:51
cmugBAH07:51
cvpbruenig: and what will libdvdcss help me do?07:51
alekzhi, in wich file can i see the list of my installed desktops availables on the User Sessiones startup menu ?07:51
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bruenigcvp, view dvds, I didn't see your initial problem just that you needed libdvdcss07:51
Flannelcmug: try the alternate CD07:51
boingolovseriously, if you have some specific need for some bleeding edge perl, then you shouldn't be scared of compiling.  otherwise, go with 5.8.707:51
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cmugFlannel, the alternate CD is not available from shipit07:51
cmugand I only have these bloody GUI installer POS's at my disposal!07:51
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Flannelcmug: that's correct, although it was a bad idea.07:52
cvpbruenig: that works with all media players then? it's required to view dvd's? because the "css" makes it sound like it's used to decrypt DVD's07:52
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zcat[1] cvp: you can't view them without decrypting them first.07:52
bruenigcvp, yeah it decrypts the encrypted ones07:52
ndkk3hey, i have a file called "~" in my / dir, will this delete all my files if i "sudo rm -rf ~" ?07:53
crimsunyes07:53
zcat[1] ndkk3: probably.07:53
avisi thought k9copy was the ubuntu version of dvddecrypter07:53
ndkk3why07:53
boingolovndkk , ~ expands to /home/<yourusername>07:53
Flannelndkk3: you can substitute rm for ls, to see, usually.07:53
avisor rather dvd shrink07:53
boingolovbut if you do rm \~ it shoudl work07:53
ndkk3i did it, but nothin happened07:53
ndkk3i did: sudo rm -rf ~07:53
Flannel~/~ seems to work fine.07:54
zcat[1] that will delete everything in /root07:54
foobearndkk3:  I think you should try it and tell us all what happens..., assuming you can still run you're IRC client...07:54
ndkk3zcat[1] : it didn't though07:54
zcat[1] hmm, it should have.07:54
ndkk3i ctrl + C while it was loading07:54
boingolovndkk3, echo $_IMAGE_MAGIC07:54
ndkk3boingolov?07:55
ndkk3the file "~" was in "/" dir07:55
cvpbruenig, zcat[1] , Nekow32, tsume, fyrestrtr: thanks!07:55
eobanbyou dont need to use sudo to rm files in your home dir07:55
cvpNekow42: easyubuntu frickin' OWNS07:55
ndkk3not in my homedir, i was in /07:55
sparkmanndkk3: rm -- /~07:56
sparkman:)07:56
sparkmanoh, may need to escape07:56
ndkk3ic07:56
cvpndkk3: rm /~ oughta do, aye?07:56
ndkk3but i did: sudo rm -rf ~07:56
ndkk3oh man07:56
cvpas long as you don't do -r, things will be dandy07:56
eobanbOR07:56
eobanbyou open nautilus07:56
cvpoh christ, why the -r?07:56
eobanband right click07:56
eobanbdone.07:56
sparkmanrm \~07:56
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ndkk3roof:~$ sudo rm -rf ~07:57
ndkk3sup07:57
ndkk3with -r07:57
sparkmanwell you're fscked then :)07:57
cvpwhy -r?07:57
zcat[1] sudo doesn't change your environment, right.. so /home/ndkk3 is now history...07:57
cvp"~" is a file, right?07:57
cvpyou don't need -r07:57
ndkk3yeah07:57
cvpit's a terrible idea, in fact, to do -r07:57
eobanbindeed.07:57
cvplike... why would you do this?07:57
ndkk3but it didn't do anything though, i ctrl+C right away07:58
cvpwhen you want to make sure you're not deleting your home directory, always put a path, and don't do recursive07:58
foobearsudo rm -rf ~/../  ; try that.07:58
cvpuh-huh...07:58
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cvpdon't listen to foobear07:58
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Nekow42the f is what you want to watch out for...07:58
zcat[1] btw; just for the record if you want to delete all the dotfiles (like to reset your login back to defaults) don't rm -rf .* It kinda matches '.' and '..' as well.07:58
cvpyou might as well rm -r /*07:58
foobearMake sure you have clean install disks before you start...07:58
cvpwhy is this such a huge issue? "rm /~" is all you need07:58
cvpit's safe, and it does exactly what you want07:59
highphilosophertsume:  I re-ran the test here http://www.invalidpage.com/testing.php and got 32 seconds07:59
ndkk3i know there's no, biggy, but when i did it, nothing happened07:59
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tsumehighphilosopher: the guy who made it was an idiot07:59
highphilosophertsume: I changed the code slightly and got it to run at 20 seconds07:59
tsumehighphilosopher: I just sped up the ruby code07:59
kuQuestion: I installed the "kubuntu-desktop" package from Ubuntu, and I was wondering if there is any way to remove it. I wanted to try them both out, but now decided to stick with Ubuntu07:59
tsume9 seconds07:59
highphilosophertsume: lol07:59
highphilosophertsume:  all I did was pull out the hundreds of echo calls. talk about a difference07:59
ndkk3im fucked then huh?08:00
foobearcvp: sorry, couldn't help myself.08:00
tsumehighphilosopher: in which, php?08:00
highphilosophertsume:  The zend accelerator would help more (as well as running fastCGI)08:00
tsumehighphilosopher: the point is to print to the screen :)08:00
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ndkk3zcat[1] : what is the best way to do then?08:00
boingolovor running php as a module08:00
highphilosophertsume: I did, I dropped everything to a string then echo'ed the string at the end08:00
tsumehighphilosopher: as in a main programming languge. since php has been abused now for the long while08:00
ndkk3i know it deleted something because my freespace was 1.3GB now its 1.4GB08:00
tsumehighphilosopher: that is cheating, that is not how you render a manderbot set08:00
boingolovfuck ruby08:01
tsumeboingolov: ruby owns you :)08:01
highphilosophertsume: :)08:01
boingolovhehe08:01
tsumenow back to the optimizing08:01
tsumeI'm doing python vs ruby08:01
highphilosophertsume: honestly I've not messed with ruby that much...08:01
tsumeoptimizing optimizing optmizing08:01
tsumehighphilosopher: its an excellent language, too bad it doesn't get more attention than rubyonrails08:01
highphilosophertsume:  there must be a pre-built function in the java, cause that cannot be right08:01
boingolovseriously, big diff when running php as module vs. running php as cgi/fastcgi08:01
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tsumehighphilosopher: its the easiest language to write bindings for08:02
zcat[1] ndkk3: sudo rm /~ should have worked... and not damaged anything else.08:02
highphilosophertsume: hmm, I may have to check it out08:02
cvpndkk3: ja, du bist fukkt08:02
ndkk3what?08:02
highphilosopherboingolov: nodz08:02
ndkk3so im fucked then?08:02
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zcat[1] too late now though.08:02
ndkk3i did: sudo rm -rf ~08:02
tsumehighphilosopher: you're welcomed to come by #rubyforce Just don't visit the web page yet. :) I'm uploading a new one soon08:02
ndkk3?08:02
odatanyone up for some more feedback08:02
odat?08:02
cvpndkk3: what you did, if you ran the command you wrote above, was delete your home dir...08:02
cvpndkk3: exactly08:03
highphilosophertsume: written in php :):):):):)08:03
cvpndkk3: you rm'd your home directory08:03
cvpndkk3: you should have done rm /~08:03
ndkk3ic08:03
cvpndkk3: with nothing else08:03
boingolovso waht program are you guys talking about?08:03
tsumehighphilosopher: please :P Written in ruby, using the Nitro framework(note: not rails)08:03
tsumeboingolov: http://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html#python08:03
tsumeoops08:03
ndkk3cvp: which home directory? root or user?08:03
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zcat[1] user08:03
tsumehttp://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html08:03
cvpndkk3: user08:03
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zcat[1] bye... gotta go.08:03
highphilosophertsume:  ok, so 'splain the whole "I don't like rails" thing08:03
tsumethe guy doesn't know how to optimize08:03
ndkk3/home/ndkk3 or / ?08:03
cvpi mean... unless you were logged in as root08:04
odatanyhelp/feedback would be appreciated08:04
tsumehighphilosopher: Nitro is made by greeks? :)08:04
odatfossystems.com08:04
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ndkk3cvp: i used 'sudo' though08:04
tsumehighphilosopher: I just don't take to fads08:04
fyrestrtr!offtopic08:04
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:04
ndkk3will that tell the system that im logged in as root?08:04
tsumehighphilosopher: I use what is right by design08:04
highphilosophertsume:  O I C08:04
highphilosophertsume:  like PHP5 when everyone is selling scripts for 4 still ??08:04
cvpndkk3: sudo doesn't use /root as home dir unless you give it another parameter... i don't remember what it is right now, but I think it's -h08:04
tsumehighphilosopher: plus its just cool. has tons of little easy things, like making anything draggable. You just add draggable="true" to the xhtml tag08:05
cvpndkk3: sudo will still use the original user's (who is using the sudo command) home dir08:05
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boingolovahh, the mandelbrot set08:05
tsumetext, boxes, anything08:05
GG_Allinwhat file do I modify in ubuntu to set a default gateway?08:05
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highphilosophertsume: sweet. I will have to check that out. How easy is it on the DB access side?08:05
mohanhello08:05
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boingolovand why is there not a perl version?08:06
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fyrestrtrGG_Allin: /etc/networking/interfaces08:06
mohananybody here with experience setting up software raid on dapper ?08:06
ndkk3cvp: so that command i used (sudo rm -rf ~) will just delete user files and not system/root files?08:06
tsumehighphilosopher: with Nitro, you use a ORM called Og, makes life easier08:06
highphilosopherboingolov: because PERL went out long time ago.08:06
boingolovlol, not hardly08:06
cvpndkk3: *nod*08:06
tsumehighphilosopher: basically you do everything through a ruby object.08:06
highphilosophertsume:  gotcha08:06
fyrestrtrtsume: what are you talking about?08:06
prophethey guys can someone help me i fallowed some guide about some XGL thing and now my computer is jacked up its all choppy and the windows are none repsonsive08:06
ndkk3cvp: ?08:06
tsumehighphilosopher: the nitro channel is #nitro ;)08:06
GG_Allinwhat exactly do I type into the /etc/network/interfaces file?08:06
boingolovif you want performance, perl is still relevant08:06
tsumefyrestrtr: ruby and web programming frameworks08:06
fyrestrtrprophet: undo whatever you did.08:06
highphilosopherprophet: run an sudo apt-get repait xgl08:06
cvpndkk3: a "nod" is a gesture made with the head to signal agreement, compliance, or affirmation08:06
renewbiehi, I am trying to install courier-imap but it is forcing me to install postfix. I don't want postfix as I already have another mail server running.08:07
fyrestrtrtsume: right, so nothing relating to ubuntu -- take it to #ubuntu-offtopic08:07
SigmaXprophet: did you change your video driver?08:07
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renewbieHow can install courier-imap without postfix?08:07
highphilosopherfyrestr: kewl08:07
ndkk3cvp: so no biggy about it right08:07
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highphilosophertsume:  meet me in nitro?08:07
prophetsigmax i think so i was trying to make it run better because the windows were kinda laggin08:07
tsumehighphilosopher: sure08:07
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umarwhether ubuntu s dapper f-refox is having good renderring support08:07
cvpndkk3: if you had a prized, meticulously-indexed porno collection in your home directory, then it is a big loss, but there is no damage to the system08:08
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renewbieis there any command line switch to do this in apt-get?08:08
umari heard it is compiled with higher versions of pango08:08
renewbieI can't find anything in man08:08
fyrestrtrrenewbie: do what?08:08
renewbiemay be I am missing something.. any pointer?08:08
renewbiehi, I am trying to install courier-imap but it is forcing me to install postfix. I don't want postfix as I already have another mail server running.08:08
ndkk3cvp: i see, i was just making sure, because it took me some times to install this thing08:08
fyrestrtroh missed your question, sorry.08:09
umarmay i know diff///// between dappers firefox and sarge firefox08:09
cvpi often find myself doubting my sexuality when i type in things like "man finger"... is there anything you guys recommends i use to alias that command?08:09
foobear. o 0 (crying to hard to type)...08:09
fyrestrtrcvp: info finger08:09
ndkk3cvp: let me say this again, this wont do anything 'harm' to my system, just my home dir (/home/ndkk3) ?08:09
cvpndkk3: yes08:09
ndkk3ok08:09
foobearcvp & ndkk3: thanks 4 keeping me awake.08:09
cvpndkk3: could'nt have said it better myself08:09
cvpfoobear: :p08:10
prophetphilosopher apt-get repair xgl it said it was a invlaid operator08:10
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ndkk3thanks08:10
trafiqhi08:10
cvpndkk3: np08:10
fyrestrtrprophet: #ubuntu-xgl08:10
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ndkk3my system's been up for 72 days, i don't wanna reinstall this thing and reinstall everything over08:10
ndkk3this aint no windows08:10
ndkk3:P08:10
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ndkk3i mean, i don't care about the uptime08:11
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cvpdon't diginify it by using the name MS wants you to - join the revolution and use "winblows"08:11
ndkk3its the time it took me to install everything you know08:11
alekzhi, in wich file can i see the list of my installed desktops availables on the User Sessiones startup menu ??08:11
ndkk3sure08:11
cvpwhoah, upside-down questionmark doohickey - gotta answer that one!08:12
ndkk3dang, you got scared when you said my system is fucked08:12
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cvpndkk3: naw, i didn't say your SYSTEM was fucked... just you, as in the user08:12
grigorahi, I am an old fvwm user and I very much like the ability to switch terminals by simply moving the mouse across the border, now I am using the GNOME desktop and am curious if GNOME offers the same functionality, thanks!08:12
fyrestrtralekz: /usr/share/xsessions/08:12
ndkk3it probably deleted some of my docs though08:12
cvpndkk3: yep, most likely08:12
alekzthanks fyrestrtr08:13
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fyrestrtrgrigora: with xgl, yes. Otherwise you can use the shortcut keys. ctrl+alt+arrow keys. Might be another way though, not sure.08:13
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Skoojerm, how do i upgrade from breezy to dapper?08:13
cvpbruenig: if you're still paying attention, where do i put libdvdcss?08:13
fyrestrtr!upgrade08:13
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.08:13
cvpSkooj: http://www.ubuntu.com08:14
kintaro0ehello everyone, i install vmware-server on my server and make a windows xp client os on it.but this is the problem: The network bridge on device /dev/vmnet0 is temporarily down because the bridged Ethernet interface is down. how wll i enable the vmnet0 interface up?08:14
kintaro0eTerminus: do you have any idea on this problem?08:14
fyrestrtrkintaro0e: try sudo ifconfig vmnet0 up08:14
ndkk3and yeah, i thought when you "rm -rf ~" itll delete all files in /08:14
ndkk3nuff said08:14
kintaro0efyrestrtr: ok..i'll try it..08:14
foobearndkk3: who gives a sh as long as you archived the "meticulously indexed pr0n collection" somewhere outside of /~08:14
ndkk3word ^08:15
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kintaro0eno such device fyrestrtr..08:15
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grigorafyrestrtr: thanks, so do I just install xgl on top of GNOME?08:16
fyrestrtrkintaro0e: ifconfig -a -- do you see it listed there?08:16
fyrestrtrgrigora: its a bit more complicated than that, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xgl08:16
cvpany of you guys wanna go to a movie on friday?08:17
ron999henry54 i'm back #sydney please08:17
fyrestrtrcvp: not with someone who is worried about man finger08:17
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Terminuskintaro0e: no idea. haven't used vmware in a long time.08:18
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Skoojaccording to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades, i hsould have a "breezy-updates" repository, but i odn't :S08:18
kintaro0enope..fyrestrtr..no vmnet0...actually i have 2 nic..eth0 and eth1..currently its running in eth1 and my vmware network is bridge...08:18
cvpSkooj: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and remove every "#" you see before the repository entries08:18
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kintaro0eTerminus: its ok..hehehe08:19
Skoojthanks cvp08:19
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Terminuskintaro0e: why use vmware? maybe qemu is enough to do the job. :)08:19
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kintaro0eTerminus: its for windows client os..08:20
cvpSkooj: after that, make sure to do sudo apt-get update before you try apt-getting again08:20
ndkk3cvp: i think im fucked, it deleted all my files starting with .08:20
ndkk3:/08:20
Terminuskintaro0e: i have a deb of the latest version here if you want. the accelerator i have is optimized for the k7 kernel only though so you might have to build your own.08:20
ndkk3firefox wont run08:20
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Terminuss/optimized/compiled/08:20
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cvpndkk3: lawl, it's probably pointing to extensions and preferences you allegedly had in ~, but are now gone08:21
cvpndkk3: go into synaptic package manager and do reinstalls of the software you use08:21
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kintaro0eTerminus: will its ok..they like to use on vmware..08:21
kintaro0ehehehe08:21
cvpndkk3: that'd be under System -> Administration, if you can't find it08:21
ndkk3i see08:21
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Ademan_what ports does samba use?08:22
Terminuswhoops... i am not allowed to redistribute kqemu. >_<08:22
foobearalmost forgot why I'm here...08:22
cvpAdeman_: samba is a very sensual dance, so if you can't guess...08:22
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foobearanyone familiar with configuring ALSA to use cmipci with joystick?08:22
drafzhello08:22
Ademan_cvp: lol08:23
ndkk3man, even Synaptic wont even run08:23
kintaro0eTerminus:..ahhaha08:23
ndkk3:/08:23
kintaro0efyrestrtr: any advice?08:23
cvpfoobear: i'm only here this long because i'm waiting for all the crap i chose to update using easyubuntu to download... i'm really just killing time08:23
cvpndkk3: that's... bad08:23
drafzi need help or install ubuntu 6.06 i think08:23
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cvpndkk3: may have to do that through apt then08:23
drafzanyone could help me ?08:23
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cvpndkk3: sudo apt-get remove mozilla08:23
cvpndkk3: sudo apt-get install mozilla08:23
cvpndkk3: etc08:24
ndkk3what about synaptic08:24
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cvpndkk3: i don't know enough to help you there08:24
ndkk3ic08:24
ndkk3thanks08:24
cvpndkk3: i actually forgot how important some of the ~/.* junk is08:24
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drafz***** when i launch ubuntu dapper install , kernel freeze on a PCI: can't allocate ressource *****08:24
foobearndkk3: if you know debian, apt is the way to go.08:24
cvpndkk3: it may very well turn out that you need to back up your shit and reinstall08:24
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ndkk3that's another story08:25
cvpfor the longest time, i wanted to make an MMORPG character named "Colonel Panic"08:25
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cvpfrickin' GET IT!??08:25
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cvpit wasn't that bad, rabeldable08:25
eobanba lot of people have already made that joke.08:25
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cvpy'know what, eobanb?08:26
foobearndkk3: if its a local install, I'd just recreate home directories.08:26
cvp....08:26
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cvpyeah08:26
eobanbhaha08:26
drafz....08:26
drafzno help here so ?08:26
cvpwhoah... wtf is "freepats?"08:26
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ndkk3what you mean?08:26
ndkk3@ foobear08:26
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cvpdrafz: come back when other people are paying attention08:26
drafz:-.08:27
drafz: /08:27
cvpndkk3: foobear's right, actually08:27
drafzdamn it08:27
drafzthat sucks08:27
cvpndkk3: you've already killed your ~, so you may as well kill the user "ndkk3" or whatever, and then useradd ndkk308:27
drafzi think 2.6.17-6 is fucked up08:27
cvpdrafz: watch your fucking mouth08:27
drafz::O08:27
drafzyeah but i would like to install08:27
drafzubuntu08:28
cvpdrafz: ubuntu is for human beings, not for heathens08:28
drafzi got standard hardware08:28
drafzi dont know why , it's so sad08:28
foobearndkk3: well assuming you deleted and want to recreate user directories as, just create them and copy default profile and bashrc into them.08:28
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ndkk3cvp: there are still some files in my ~/08:28
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cvpfoobear: well lah-dee-frickin-dah, don't we just have the answers to everything08:28
foobearof course make sure their permissions are set correctly...08:28
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cvpmake sure the permissions are set incorrectly08:29
cvpndkk3: then go with foobear's genius idea, cuz he's such a genius and everything08:29
foobeari was a bell labs admin, when there was still a bell labs....08:29
cvpoh wow, i was too! when did you work there?08:30
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foobeari just come here for the beer and entertainment anymore..08:30
foobearhmmm, 94-9808:30
foobearmaybe 9908:30
cvpi was lying - i just wanted to see if you'd give out personal information on a public IRC channel08:30
foobearwhen did we go kerplunk?08:30
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cvpi was, like, in elementary school then08:31
cvpactually, whoah, i was 6 back in '9408:31
foobearwell im sure you could get one there now...08:31
cvpfeel better now that you know you're talking to some punkass kid?08:31
farousfoobear: just curious when ther still were bell labs?08:31
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foobearwell if you need a sysadmin job just let me know....08:31
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cvpfoobear: i thought you said it died08:32
cvpunless you mean a fundamental change in idealogy of the company, such as what happened to Yahoo!08:32
foobearits pretty much dead.08:32
cvpthat is, no one cares about it anymore?08:33
foobearworse than that, they outsourced IT to IBM...08:33
cvpyikes!08:33
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farousfoobear: last time i checked they were in Montreal08:33
cvpso what would a sysadmin job there be like?08:33
foobearmurder is perhaps more appropriate08:33
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cvpwhoah, a sysadmin job for bell labs involves killing people?08:33
foobearthey WERE pretty friggin awesome.08:33
cvpheh, do i even need an A+ cert?08:33
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cvpi'm working towards it... gotten kinda lazy recently, but still casually working on learning the stuff08:34
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umarubuntu -firefox is having renderring support ?08:34
foobearflip flops and t's were the attire.  Unless you wanted to wear a polo.  more of those started appearing after the IBM invasion.08:34
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foobearcerts weren't important.08:35
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cvpi can juggle kinda well, does that count for anything?08:35
foobearIBM's not so bad, just different, ALOT different than Bell Labs culture.08:35
cvp(actually that's just me padding my resume - i've never learned to juggle)08:35
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foobearincredibly important at Bell08:36
Chubblyhello08:36
foobearIt was a culture, I'm sorry to say, that doesn't exist anymore....08:36
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cvpthat's kinda depressing... i've heard of a lot of tech companies taking that same road08:36
cvpwas it the popular reason for decay - becoming more "professional" and proprietary?08:37
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cvpcuz that just kills a good liberal atmosphere08:37
cvpbringing in the cubicles and polo shirts... yech08:37
foobearThere was nothing quite like bell labs.  I could send my C homework to Dennis Ritchie.  Of course he would tell me to GFM, but at least he would reply.08:37
cvphaha08:38
nubstercan anyone tell me y i dont have libqt3-mt on my system...and i cant find it in synaptic package manager08:38
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cvpwoot, easyubuntu crap is done updating my system, so i think i'll leave when another person joings and make the newcomer feel uncomfortable08:39
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cvpoh shit, ku is here... i'd suggest you guys all go before he bores you to death with his incompetent whining08:40
cvpi'm outta here08:40
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A-L-P-H-AI'm having a crap of a time trying to connect to my wifi WPA, could someone help me?  I've installed the wpa_supplicaent, and network-manager-gnome.  But nothing shows up to allow me to enter the PSK.  I've manually made a /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file, but the PSK isn't liked.08:40
Chubblylooking for advice about which version of unbuntu to install08:40
foobearDapper Drake.08:40
ku!easyubuntu08:41
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ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.08:41
marcel`hi, i just installed pure-ftpd whit synaptic but when i try to execute it i get the following msg: Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use.08:41
hangfireChubby- go with regular knome ubuntu, unless you really like the KDE enviorment. I dont think Ubuntu goes well with KDE08:41
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christianphi all08:42
Chubblyi am setting up a home media server on a really crappy machine08:42
christianphow can i make a demon (freepopsd) running at start time?08:42
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farousnubster: try asking in kubuntu room08:43
farousfind libqt3-mt08:43
nubsterthanks08:43
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ndkk3when adding a new user, which is the best way to do it, 'useradd' or 'adduser'08:43
ndkk3?08:43
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marcel`wauw easyubuntu really sounds great.. is there a reason why is shouldend use it?08:44
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foobearnight, guess no one knows anything about ALSA and sound drivers upport here.08:44
nick__QUESTION: At the login screen, if I scroll to the bottom of the screen, the whole thing goes ....crazy.. and i have to power off or re-login to fix it. Is that the video drivers?08:44
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damned[office] can anybody suggest why X11Forwarding can''t work on ubuntu-server?08:44
foobearfarous: who was in Montreal? Bell Labs?08:45
ic56ndkk3: adduser is easier (provides more defaults).  adduser invokes useradd08:45
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nicholaspaulSilly question?08:46
ndkk3ic56: ic08:46
damned[office] seems ssh-server doesn't create .Xauthority in home dir.08:46
farousfoobear: bell labs in canada are located in montreal so when i read your note on that they were gone was just wondering08:46
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foobearadduser is pretty easy.  just don't know if it works if the user names are already in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.08:46
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ic56ndkk3: did you daemon (freepopsd) come with an init.d file?08:46
gyaresudamned(office) You need to run the X server to dish up progs in GUI08:46
ic56christianp: did you daemon (freepopsd) come with an init.d file?08:47
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ic56ndkk3: sorry, wrong person08:47
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Chubblywhat are the minimum system requirements for Ubuntu?08:47
foobearI  don't think they're completely gone, just not what it used to me.  FWIW, Bell Labs was everywhere,08:47
Weskeralguien ha tenido problemas en el arranque con la livecd de ubuntu en e1 pc con radeon 960008:47
nicholaspaulChubbly: what are you trying to run it on?08:47
ic56!es08:47
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:47
christianpic56: yes, it is08:47
Chubblya 550 Mhz, 64MB ram computer08:48
Weskerubotu, * No puede entrar #ubuntu-es (Est vetado).08:48
ubotuI know nothing about * No puede entrar #ubuntu-es (Est vetado). - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:48
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farousfoobear: i realised that from your conv later. I was gona do some analysis for them but it did not work out08:48
nicholaspaulChubbly: i have an mp3 server with  700MHz/128mb RAM and it runs ok, but a little slow. I wouldnt expect much, but it will run.08:49
gyaresuChubbly, fine for a server. awefull for a desktop (need more ram) Proc is fine though.08:49
ndkk3foobear: ok, i created a new user, should i copy all files in /home/ndkk3 as 'cp *' to the new user (/home/dgethot) ?08:49
nicholaspaulyea, what gyaresu  said, Chubbly08:49
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Chubblythanks08:49
nicholaspaul:)08:49
Weskerubotu,  try "/j #ubuntu-es"08:49
ubotuI know nothing about try "/j #ubuntu-es" - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:49
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nicholaspaulQUESTION: At the login screen, if I scroll to the bottom of the screen, the whole thing goes ....crazy.. and i have to power off or re-login to fix it. Is that the video drivers?08:49
Weskerah ok is a bot08:49
ic56christianp: link the init.d file to /etc/rc3.d  That will cause it to be started when you reach the GUI initlevel.08:49
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Chubblyso... the Ubuntu server version?08:50
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fiendskull9hey08:50
gyaresunicholaspaul, have you tried a different login manager? gdm kdm xdm etc?08:50
fiendskull9i screwed up my ubuntu by trying to install nvidia drivers08:50
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fiendskull9how do i recompile x?08:50
nicholaspaulgyaresu:  no . Just gdmsetup08:51
farousfiendskull9: you do not need to recompile it just reinstall it08:51
gyaresufiendskull9, What did you do to xorg that you need to recompile?08:51
fiendskull9how do i reinstall it?08:51
foobearndkk3: depends whether you want the user dgethot (whats that all about) to have the exact profile as ndkk3 or not.  FWIW, you REALLY want the .files, like .bashrc and .bash_profile...08:51
farousfiendskull9: and i think all you need is reconfigure x to use the free driver08:51
fiendskull9gyaresu, well, i just realized it wasnt drivers08:51
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christianpic56: in rc5 are there all objects starting with S##. Can i add my link caed freepops or have i to rename it?08:51
ndkk3foobear: why would i copy all them files if that 'profile' is fucked up?08:51
fiendskull9I installed it using my monitor (1280x1024)08:51
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christianps/rc5/rc308:51
fiendskull9wait08:51
fiendskull9nbm08:51
fiendskull9*nvm08:51
fiendskull9Ok08:52
fiendskull9i installed nvidia drivers using a script (dont remmber what)08:52
fiendskull9and now i reboot08:52
bobbywhello. could anyone help me with the driver install on a Radeon 9000 Pro?08:52
fiendskull9and its telling me an error08:52
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fiendskull9i need to get back to default x1108:52
ic56ndkk3: "cp *" really isn't what you'd want to do in any reasonable circumstance.  Which files do you want to copy the files from one user to the other anyway?  and why?  Give more details, you'll get more accurate advice.08:52
fiendskull9not the one with nvidia driver08:52
gyaresufiendskull9, all that really matters is your xorg.conf08:53
ndkk3ic56: i accidentally did 'sudo rm -rf ~'08:53
fiendskull9ok08:53
gyaresufiendskull9, you DID keep a copy didn't you :)08:53
fiendskull9no08:53
fiendskull9i wasnt thinking right08:53
nicholaspaulgyaresu:  did my xorg.conf get messed?08:53
fiendskull9i havent used linux for 2 months or so08:53
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farousfiendskull9: no prob sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:53
fiendskull9i didnt even remember sudo apt-get update :D08:53
farousand follow the menu08:53
ndkk3ic56: instead of /~08:53
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gyaresunicholaspaul, Does it seem to be in a high resolution? The login screen.08:54
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ic56christianp: the link needs to be in the S## format.  S means start.  K means kill.  The number causes the scripts in each directory to be run in teh sequence in which they are numbered.  S-named scripts get the servers started, K-named scripts cause the corresponding servers to be shutdown when that level is reached.08:54
nicholaspaulgyaresu: no it goes really fuzzy, like the monitor is on acid!08:54
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gyaresunicholaspaul, immediately? everytime...08:54
foobearndkk3: if you want ndkk3 to have a clean start, `cp /etc/profile /home/ndkk3/.profile ; cp /etc/bash.bashrc /home/.bashrc` and be done with it...08:55
nicholaspaulgyaresu: just when i move the mouse to the bottom of the screen.08:55
gyaresunicholaspaul, sounds like your Vert Refresh or Hsynch settings are out...08:55
gyaresunicholaspaul, ah. odd.08:55
nicholaspaulgyaresu: AAh.08:55
nicholaspaulyu[!!08:55
nicholaspaulyup08:55
metataghello all I have tried to install nvidia-glx and I am getting the following when running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" : "Error: your X configuration has been altered." Tried to manually change nv to nvidia but it still does not work08:55
ic56nkdd3: so you are trying to re-create a user for yourself?08:55
ic56ndkk3: so you are trying to re-create a user for yourself?08:55
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gyaresunicholaspaul, could be the xorg.conf mouse settings even.08:56
ndkk3ic56: yes sir08:56
nicholaspaulgyaresu:  can i set them to default?08:56
gyaresunicholaspaul, sorry I can't be more specific.08:56
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nicholaspaulgyaresu: not thats ok. should i sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:56
ndkk3foobear: that's it?08:56
gyaresunicholaspaul, If you've got a copy of the original file then yep...08:56
ic56ndkk3: and, presumably you stopped the rm -rf ~ before it destroyed *everything*.  Is that right too?08:56
ndkk3ic56: yeah08:56
gyaresunicholaspaul, make a backup of your xorg.conf and yeah. can't hurt...08:57
ndkk3ic56: i ctrl+c'd08:57
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nicholaspaulgyaresu:  i'll give it a whirl. Cheers!08:57
metatagany ideas?08:57
gyaresunicholaspaul, good luck.08:57
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kintaro0ehi guys..has anyone tried using vnc?08:58
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ic56ndkk3: ok.  When you did adduser, it created a new home directory and copied the standard config files from /etc/skel  Now you'll copy everything that remains in the old directory.  You08:58
kintaro0efyrestrtr: hey..its working now..08:58
metataghi gyaresu, I have tried to install nvidia-glx and I am getting the following when running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" : "Error: your X configuration has been altered." Tried to manually change nv to nvidia but it still does not work08:58
kintaro0ei make vmnet2 adapter08:58
fyrestrtrkintaro0e: cool :)08:58
fyrestrtr!doesn't work08:58
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.08:58
gyaresumetatag, yeah. I saw. Thinking about it at the mo...08:59
ic56ndkk3: you'll want to overwrite the standard config files with the ones from your old account so as to get the benefit of any modifications you had made.  Just a sec08:59
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kintaro0ethanks..08:59
kintaro0eehehe08:59
ndkk3ic56: mind if i pm you, this hurts my eyes08:59
foobearndkk3: that is the bear neccessities.  should get you started.  Most applications, including X, will recreate their own config files when you first run them.  And assuming you're running a display manager under init you should be all set...08:59
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metataggyaresu: :)08:59
bobbywspeaking of graphics cards and X08:59
ic56ndkk3: go ahead and PM me08:59
bobbywI have a Radeon 9000 Pro and it... sucks08:59
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`JB!ops09:00
ubotuHelp! lilo, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!09:00
gyaresumetatag, i'm multi-linux-distro boy and do everything manually so sometimes i'm useless at the helper script installs09:00
bobbywor at least it appears to running in X09:00
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foobearbobbyw  Yes, it does.09:00
Hobbsee`JB: /09:00
DBO`JB??09:00
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Hobbsee`JB: what's up?09:00
foobearbobby: sell it on ebay and buy an nVidia card...09:00
fyrestrtrdoes OO have a Draw application?09:00
bobbywfoobear: know any way to get it to not suck so much... like so the point where I can watch video in full screen?09:00
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xednow to read the rules!09:00
xedHuzzaaah!09:00
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metataggyaresu: ohh.. neverming.. thx :)09:01
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thedudeI'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my old g3 imac09:01
bobbywfoobear: that's my only option?09:01
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gyaresumetatag, where is the info you're following... I don't mind having a look.09:01
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ndkk3foobear: i don't get what you're saying, init, etc, im kinda new09:01
GG_Allin1hmmm, seemed to fix my wireless problem (maybe).  all I had to do was add 'gateway 192.168.0.1' to /etc/network/interfaces09:01
gyaresumetatag, I get the feeling you've done something out of order.09:01
xedAlright, so I am trying to install Ubuntu on my AMD Athlon 550MHz...09:01
thedudeit only lets me boot live, and every time it finishes loading the screen just turns off09:01
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christianpthanks ic56 :)09:02
xedSo.. I get to the part where it says 'Starting up the partitioner" and it gets stuck at 41%09:02
xedIs that a common problem?09:02
ic56christianp: yw!09:02
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metataggyaresu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:02
xedLets hope crimsun is still around.09:02
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xedAnyone? Anyone know if that's a common problem? the partitioner hanging at 41% ?09:03
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metataggyaresu: guess I might have tampered the xorg.conf settings before.. is there anyway to get the original copy ?09:04
kouwehow come, my firefox cant read special chars like 09:04
foobearndkk3:  if you type this command... `less /etc/inittab`, you will be looking at THE most important initialization config file in unix (well System V based unixes anyway - like Debian).  That will tell you what order things get started by the Unix initialization process.09:04
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thedudeis there a command to go to the intsall screen?09:04
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thedudeI keep getting "not valid ELF image"09:05
ndkk3foobear: i just typed what you have said09:05
foobearndkk3: If you want to learn more about this process, read the MAN page on inittab.09:05
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ndkk3cp /etc/profile /home/ndkk3/.profile ; cp /etc/bash.bashrc /home/.bashrc09:05
kouwehow come, my firefox cant read special chars like   ??09:05
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ic56ndkk3: goodness! don't do that!  /etc/profile is *not* meant to be used as a private .profile09:06
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bobbywfoobear: that's my only option? buy a nvidia card?09:06
metatagfoobear: if I delete xorg.conf would X recreate em for me?09:06
ic56ndkk3: same for bash.bashrc09:06
xedAnyone? Anyone help.. at all?09:06
gyaresumetatag, maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:06
bobbywxed: install a new partition program09:07
livingdaylightxed, not me, i know nothing09:07
metataggyaresu: thanks :)09:07
xedbobbyw: I'm in the middle of the installation of Ubuntu..09:07
kouwexed: i got it, but stucked @ 15% each time again09:07
xedI.. don't think I can do much.09:07
ndkk3ic56: answer you pm09:07
foobearndkk3: inittab tell the kernel what initialization level to boot up into (i.e., single user, multi-user, network/no network, etc.) Think of it like Windoze "Safe Mode", "Safe Mode w/ networking", "Normal", etc.)09:07
xedkouwe: figure out how to fix it?09:07
ic56foobear: your advice about copying /etc/profile to ~/.profile is ill advised.09:08
ic56ndkk3: I just noticed that you aren't registered with nickserv.  This means that you cannot send private messages.  Have you sent me any?  I haven't gotten any from you...09:08
gyaresumetatag, did you see step four and are installing the right packages for your version of ubuntu?09:08
ndkk3oh that's why09:08
ndkk3damn09:08
xedhttp://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/09:08
xedThat's the latest release, yes?09:08
foobearmetatag: in /etc/X11?  No.  Don't delete anything outside  your /home dir.09:08
kouwexed: i installed it on a laptop and disabled a couple things in the boot line -> "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off" that worked for me....09:08
ic56ndkk3: I sent you the above text a few minutes ago as a private message.  Did that get through to you?09:08
fyrestrtrbobbyw: what do you want to get out of your ati card?09:08
ndkk3nope09:08
ndkk3ok09:09
ndkk3i just regg'd09:09
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ic56ndkk3: Ah.  So you can neither send *nor* receive PMs09:09
bobbywfyrestrtr: no gaming, just xvid quality video playing lagless fullscreen09:09
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foobearic56: Why is that?09:09
bobbywI'm talking 30 fps09:09
ndkk3nope09:09
thedude is there any other way to install this with out booting the live cd09:09
metataggyaresu: yep am on dapper.. so I installed nvia-glx only09:09
fyrestrtrbobbyw: that is possible. I have that working fine with my ati mobility x30009:09
nicholaspaulgyaresu:  yea, reseting xorg did the trick. Thx for your help :)09:09
gyaresufoobear, metatag renaming or copying the xorg.conf file is fine. even deleting it as long as your happy to reconfigure.09:09
foobearic56: He's already deleted his whole home directory...09:09
metataggyaresu: *nvidia09:09
thedudeis there an actuall instal screen?09:09
bobbywfyrestrtr: I'd love you if you told me how.09:09
gyaresunicholaspaul, stupid computers ;)09:09
nicholaspaulgyaresu:  hehe yea!09:10
metataggyaresu: ok i'll do that09:10
ic56foobear: the default ~/.profile should be copied from /etc/skel/.profile09:10
kouwexed: if u delete "quiet splash" from the boot line u can see what kind of errors there are at booting the install09:10
fyrestrtrbobbyw: followed the wiki, and installed the ati binary drivers because I have a laptop, and suspend/resume only works properly with the ati drivers (from ati.com).09:10
ic56foobear: that is where default config files are kept.  These get installed by useradd09:10
bobbywxed: boot the live cd and apt-get another partition tool, see if it loads?09:10
foobearic56: Ah, ok then.  Whats the diff between the two, out of curiosity.09:10
ndkk3any programs i run, it wont run09:10
ndkk3:/09:10
xedI'm trying to look through the advanced installation thingies...09:11
bobbywfyrestrtr: which wiki?09:11
ic56foobear: give me a minute to deal with ndkk309:11
xedit's not going well...09:11
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fyrestrtr!ati > bobbyw09:11
fyrestrtrthat one09:11
ndkk3i just created a new emergency user, just incase09:11
gyaresufoobear, one makes you a default home and the other just adds a user to the system09:11
pinky_Why isn't there an option to change bitdepth in the "Desktop --> Preferences --> Screen Resolution" dialogue box?09:11
pinky_Is there a GUI way to change from 32-bit color to 16-bit color?09:11
foobearndkk3: do what ic56 said then, but you'd probably be ok.09:12
fyrestrtrpinky_: because you set that in xorg.conf09:12
thedudecan anyone help me?09:12
helpplzhow can I get sound to work in quake3?09:12
gyaresuxed have you been running an OS previously on this machine? Sounds like dodgy RAM to me.09:12
bobbywgreat, thanks.09:12
bobbywfyrestrtr: you're my hero.09:12
ic56ndkk3: cp -rdp <old homedir> <new homedir>09:12
xedgyaresu: Yes, I had OS running on this machine.. windows xp09:12
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gyaresuthedude, why do you not want the livecd?09:12
pinky_But I also set resolutions in xord.conf, but I can change them in the GUI if I want...09:13
ic56ndkk3: this will copy the entire directory hierarchy from the old user to the new user.  It will preserve symlinks and permissions.  Next you need to09:13
thedudegyaresu: because it loads up, and then the screen turns off09:13
ic56ndkk3: oh, wait, you need to sudo that cp command09:13
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fyrestrtrpinky_: how did you set them there?09:13
pinky_Wy can I not change through the bit depths I have set in xorg.conf like I can resolutions?09:13
ic56ndkk3: sudo cp -rdp <old homedir> <new homedir>09:13
thedudegyaresu: it's hard to control the computer when you can't see anything09:13
gyaresuxed, you get my drift though. you've tried this a couple of times i guess? (could be a dodgy burn cd, try md5sum checking the disk maybe)09:13
pinky_What, the resolutions?09:13
ndkk3ok09:13
ndkk3i just did09:13
fyrestrtrpinky_: yes.09:13
gyaresuthedude, have you tried loading in failsafe?09:13
pinky_Wrote them in?09:13
ndkk3ic56: that'll take some time though09:13
pinky_I have multiple I can toggle through via the GUI in GNOME09:14
xedgyaresu: sss.. yeah I see what you're saying09:14
ic56ndkk3: next you need to change teh ownerships to match the new user.  Like so: chown -r <new username>:<new groupname> <new homedir>09:14
pinky_But how can I make it so bit depth is switchable in the GUI?09:14
pinky_I mean is this not even possible?09:14
foobeargyaresu: I can't think of too many more things that I personally hate to do than RE-configuring X and xorg.conf.  Especially if you have an "enhanced" video adapter...09:14
fyrestrtrpinky_: I am not aware of a way to change screen depth 'on the fly' only the resolution.09:14
pinky_That seems silly that X would have to be completely restarted for a bit depth change.09:14
thedudehow do I go about doing that?09:14
kouwewhy cant my firefox display specials chars like "", cause it displays a question mark (?) ..... anyone?09:14
pinky_Bad design IMO09:14
ndkk3ic56: you talkin about the dirs or what?09:15
bobbywin short: apt-get install xorg-driver-flgrx09:15
bobbywwonderful.09:15
ic56ndkk3: if you don't know the primary group name of the new user, type: id <new usenarname>   It will be reported as "gid"09:15
fyrestrtrpinky_: its a server that is serving clients (multiple clients). So in that design, you don't just shift things like bitdepth (which can cause unpredictable results) on the fly.09:15
gyaresufoobear, i just keep a copy of a fully working xorg.conf lying around for those special moments09:15
foobearpinky: all you have to do is CTRL-ALT-BKSPC09:15
ndkk3i see that09:15
ic56ndkk3: I've said many thing, you'll have be more specific with your question.  What are you confused about?09:15
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foobeargyaresu: I hear that!09:16
gyaresuthedude, when you boot the cd can you press F2 or F3 for more options?09:16
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pinky_fyrestrtr: Well why is resolution so easily switchable?  Seems just as risky to change on the fly as bit depth...09:16
thedudeno09:16
fyrestrtrpinky_: that's how I would justify it :) Its not bad design -- just a different way of doing things. X is a *server* and it serves many clients, one of which is gnome. You could have 15 people running any number of clients off of the same X server. So things like bitdepth -- which can cause things like artifacts -- are not easily switchable.09:16
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ndkk3ic56: i think i should just delete the user ndkk3 and make a new one09:16
ndkk3all files i had aint shit anyway09:17
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ndkk3i mean they were not that important09:17
Ramunashello09:17
gyaresuthedude, preface your messages with the name of who you are addressing.09:17
ic56ndkk3: ok.09:17
gyaresuthedude, gets busy around these parts.09:17
fyrestrtrpinky_: don't know about why, but its a good thing to research if you are so inclined.09:17
ndkk3ic56: what do you think09:17
thedudegyaresu: sorry09:17
pinky_fyrestrtr: I shall, but not now.  I want to get my game working =P09:18
gyaresuBoot in Failsafe mode on the LiveCD folks. Anyone?09:18
xedwould it be possible for me to install it Ubuntu onto an external harddrive being connected via USB ?09:18
foobearpinky: I suppose you could just do it the M$ way and reboot the server.  Oh, and bring the 150 users attached to that Windows server down with it.09:18
xedONTO the harddrive, not FROM it..09:18
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A-L-P-H-AHow do I setup ubuntu to allow wifi roaming?09:18
gyaresuthedude, no probs at all.09:18
bilss_hi09:18
ic56ndkk3: dude, it's your files.  What do I care?  If you want help, I'll help you.  If you don't, we're done and that's great too.09:18
ndkk3ic56: ok if i want to completely delete the user 'ndkk3', what should i do other than: deluser ndkk3 && rm -rf /home/ndkk3 ?09:18
fyrestrtrxed: that would be .... slow, but I think its possible.09:18
jon27kcEarlier I discussed briefly the memory allocation crash problem with Nautilus.  I found a solution by accident--but I don't know what exactly happened. If interested, my post on the forums is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1296882#post1296882.09:18
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xedAlright...lets try the external then!09:19
bilss_if i pastebin something is it possible to delete it at some point or is it there for ever09:19
thedudegyaresu: it just sits at a text prompt for a few seconds and the defaults to live eventually09:19
gyaresuxed onboard gfx is it? do you have a spare gfx card?09:19
foobearwho can help me configure a sound driver (cmipci) under ALSA to use my joystick.  I've got big scary monsters to kill...09:20
Ramunascan anybody help me to get winfast tv2000 xp tv-tuner to work?09:20
ic56ndkk3: you'll also want to remove teh user's mailbox, any cronjobs, hmmm, can't think of anything else right now.  Try find / -name '*ndkk3*' -print   See what it finds09:20
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gyaresuthedude, haven't used ubuntu in a while so I'm not familiar with the boot order but it should have a failsafe mode.09:20
livingdaylightso, some questions: what is reiserfs?09:20
dregai'm having a hell of a time restoring grub after a windows install. I've run grub-install /dev/hda and it fails, I've tried to use the installer and mount the partitions to get to the grub install stage and the installer fails. andy ideas?09:20
fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: a filesystem for linux.09:20
gyaresulivingdaylight,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReiserFS09:21
dregaany ideas rather09:21
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, and so is ext3 which is what ive always used previously09:21
thedudegyaresu: I know with other linuxs' I've used it does, but the only thing it offers is "live"09:21
livingdaylightthx, gyaresu09:21
gyaresulivingdaylight, dude. really. some research is required.09:21
xedOh what the HELL.. m..GOD DAMNIT09:21
fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: its something I believe developed by IBM. Each has its advantages.09:21
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ndkk3ic56: mail, sudo, screen, and that's about it09:21
foobearlivingdaylight: A journaling filesystem for Linux.  One of the first (after ext2).09:21
DBO!language > xed09:21
ic56ndkk3: to remove the mailbox, just rm the file in /var/spool/mail/<username>  For crontabs at at jobs, you sould use the command09:22
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, but you can install any os using either?09:22
Lopawhere can i find rpms for ubuntu im planning on installing it again :)09:22
ic56ndkk3: Oh, also print jobs09:22
LopaI meant debs09:22
gyaresulivingdaylight, that's edging into stfw territory ;) not that i would ever say that.09:22
fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: no, only any linux-based os.09:22
Lopaany ideas?09:22
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fyrestrtrLopa: www.ubuntu.com/download09:22
ic56ndkk3: you mention "mail, sudo, screen" what's the path you found for each of those?09:22
thedudegyaresu: I have yet to get any linux to run on this thing, it just absolutely refuses to take it, in some way, shape or form09:22
Lopanot from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages ?09:22
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, that's what i meant : )09:22
foobearLopa: Why don't you download the ISO and burn it to CD instead.  Much easier...09:22
gyaresuHOWTO Boot in Failsafe mode on the LiveCD folks. Anyone?09:22
moveokay, i just changed my xconfig according to that how to and apparently I did something way wrong, x won't load.09:22
livingdaylightgyaresu, stfw?09:23
movegyaresu: vga fail safe?09:23
thedudegyaresu: I have a newer mac and pc and I can get both to run linux09:23
gyaresulivingdaylight, search the funky web.09:23
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fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: search the fine web09:23
ndkk3ic56: can i pm you?09:23
gyaresumove, is it?09:23
Lopanot from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages ?09:23
jon27kcic56, ndkk3 might also want to remove the user from sudoers.  I just did that with a test user, by coincidence.09:23
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xedMan, that bot just owned me09:23
movegyaresu: yes?09:23
movehmm09:24
movewhat's the name of that file that I just edited09:24
fyrestrtrjon27kc: just remove from the admin group.09:24
foobearLopa: No.  That will come later.  Just get the ISO image first....09:24
movethat's got all the video/mouse configs for x09:24
fyrestrtrmove: take a guess, but its /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:24
moveyes, thx09:24
livingdaylightits just that i've always used ext, but tried to install suse and kanotix and it seemed they were using reiserfs09:24
xedwhy do I get the gun? it's cause I'm black..!?09:24
livingdaylightand that threw me a little09:24
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thedudegyaresu: I've tried "live video=ofonly" and that doesn't work either09:24
fyrestrtrthedude: you might need the alternate cd.09:25
xedawwww yeeee.. just fixed my problem09:25
foobearLopa http://www.ubuntu.com/download09:25
gyaresuthedude, I'm making this up but (from knoppix) "failsafe" should boot09:25
thedudefyrestrtr: is it on the download page?09:25
thedudegyaresu: tried that09:25
fyrestrtryes09:25
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thedudegyaresu:no dice09:26
ndkk3brb09:26
gyaresuthedude, pci or agp gfx card would be my next try. doesn't seem to like your chip.09:26
ic56ndkk3: /var/run contains ephemeral files.  They get removed when the process that created them dies.  So don't worry about them09:26
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ku!resolution09:26
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:26
DeshWould overclocking a mobile AMD64 Athlon be a bad idea?09:26
fyrestrtrDesh: yeah09:27
gyaresuDesh, is it in a laptop?09:27
Lopaso for downloading synaptic i would use apt-get install synaptic09:27
DeshYes.09:27
gyaresuDesh would you like to cook it?09:27
fyrestrtrDesh: its a *very* bad idea09:27
DeshHaha no that's why I asked.09:27
dli_Desh, don't do it09:27
Lopa?09:27
gyaresuDesh, what fyrestrtr said ;)09:27
fyrestrtrLopa: synaptic comes with ubuntu. Just download the cd image, burn it, and boot from it.09:28
DeshI was wondering if even a small increase would cause damage?09:28
ic56jon27kc: good point about removing a user from /etc/sudoers.  Thanks09:28
kuHey, what do you guys think is the most used / best music player? I can't stand Rhythmbox09:28
thedudegyaresu: it's definitly too old for agp, as far as I can remember, it's just an onboard chip09:28
DeshI wasn;t actually going to, I just wanted to get better opinions than my own.09:28
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fyrestrtrDesh: if you have money around to purchase a new laptop, sure you can try to fry...I mean, overclock it. But if I were you, I wouldn't.09:28
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fyrestrtrDesh: good call on getting a second opinion.09:28
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Deshfyrestrtr: haha ok thank. Yeah I was just curious.09:29
xedIs there any site I can go to check out how well ubuntu runs on certain machines?09:29
movefyrestrtr: I can't load X anymore so I can't view that wiki page... was I supposted to change the "screen" in the "ServerLayout" to aticonfig-Screen[0]  or in the "screen" section?09:29
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fyrestrtrku: amarok, bmp, xmms, banshee are some that I have tried.09:29
dli_Desh, amd k8 laptop cpus already had higher TPD then intel core-duo (or pentium-m)09:29
xedAnyone?09:29
gyaresuDesh, the percentage increase you would gain would be offset by heat and battery use. Pretty pointless.09:29
bbrazilmove: use lynx to view the web from the CLI09:29
zerostarhxgrrrr I'm having trouble, I've downloaded a package that wasn't in my apt and used synaptic to extract it to a folder, but i'm having trouble getting it to launch, anyone help?09:29
moveI think common sense tells me in the ServerLayout section09:29
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moveahh, yes lynx09:29
dli_Desh, if you want speed, wait for merom from intel09:29
fyrestrtrmove: I don't know what you were trying to do?09:29
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kufyrestrtr: : I liked amarok, not so much xmms09:29
thedudeI had the same probelm with knoppixSTD on my pc09:30
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gyaresuxed don't know one but throw the specs up and what you want to do....09:30
kuOh well, I guess i'll just stick with amarok09:30
movefyrestrtr: err, here09:30
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fyrestrtroh ati dude.09:30
Deshdli_: yeah I was looking at those a few minutes ago. Are they much faster than AMD's current dual core mobile processors?09:30
bobbywfyrestrtr: we're you the one who sent me the link for ati09:30
bobbywyeah09:30
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gyaresuzerostarhx, grab the source and compile it yourself.09:30
xedgyaresu: I have an AMD Athlon 550MHz, with 128MB SDRAM, an SiS 4MB Video card (PCI), and a 10GB harddrive09:30
fyrestrtrbobbyw: /msg me -- I'll help you get it sorted out.09:30
dli_Desh, turion x2 is already slower than core duo09:31
fyrestrtrxed: a 4 MB video card?! My phone has more memory for its video09:31
xedgyaresu: I just want to put it up as a small computer that I can use as a work station for backup now and then.. and maybe use it as a server?09:31
zerostarhxGyaresu: Sorry I'm very new to ubuntu lol I will take some patience :X I'm not sure how to or what you mean.09:31
cool_nickare there any editors with which i can view .chm files?09:31
dli_xed, 128MB ram might be the bottleneck09:31
gyaresuxed, fine. just be a bit slow if you want to run more than a couple of progs. I'd run a lighter Window Manager xcfe etc.09:31
xedfyrestrtr: It's an old video card, I fu.. messed up the AGP port on that old motherboard, and I am not going to spend money on an AMD 550MHz computer09:31
dli_cool_nick, xchm09:32
benplautanyone here have a toshiba m105 or m100?09:32
xeddli_: Why do you say that? i mean.. it's not like it's going to be doing much.. =\09:32
foobearLopa: Synaptic instantiates apt-get in the background.  Another way to say it is Synaptic is a glorified front-end to apt...09:32
fyrestrtrxed: you could use it as a gateway/router/server type machine.09:32
gyaresuzerostarhx, what's the software you are trying to run...09:32
Deshdli_: Are the duo cores faster that the mobile Athlons?09:32
zerostarhxSkype for09:32
xedfyrestrtr: That's pretty much what I plan to do with it..09:32
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dli_xed, try debian, ubuntu might be too heavy for it09:32
zerostarhxI finally found out what format i needed TBZ or something, if this helps09:32
xedfyrestrtr: And maybe install some office-like application (maybe open office?) and use it for that..09:32
xeddli_: too late, already installing ubuntu..09:33
fyrestrtrcool_nick: sudo apt-get install gnochm09:33
bobbywahh, crap09:33
bobbywno pms til I register09:33
fyrestrtrxed: no, that would not work too good.09:33
fyrestrtrbobbyw: /j #ati-help09:33
gyaresudli_, xed I run 450's with 128 and 10GB HDD with xubuntu and it's just fine09:33
dli_Desh, yes, according to benchmarks, core duo is faster in all area then turion x2, at least almost all area09:33
cool_nickfyrestrtr: getting this error : E: Couldn't find package gnochm09:34
Deshdli_: ah ok, thanks. :)09:34
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fyrestrtr!info gnochm09:34
ubotugnochm: CHM file viewer for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1build1 (dapper), package size 99 kB, installed size 636 kB09:34
xedgyaresu: what's xubuntu?09:34
dli_gyaresu, can you run ubuntu (or xubuntu ) livecd?09:34
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fyrestrtrcool_nick: enable universe and multiverse09:34
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romulowhen i get X not entering and the error saying that fixed font could not be loaded, what should i do?09:34
romulo=p09:34
dli_Desh, also, turion x2 has higher TPD09:35
gyaresudli_, xed you can just get the server version of ubuntu and then install a lightweight WM. Works a treat.09:35
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xed..WM?09:35
dli_gyaresu, why not just debian?09:35
gyaresuxed, sorry Window Manager.09:35
xedgyaresu: I understand... ....09:35
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gyaresudli_, Because this is Debian.09:35
ic56foobear: we were talking about /etc/profile ~/.profile09:36
xedgyaresu: what is this 'server' installation?09:36
Deshok well im out, goodnight/day all. :)09:36
xedbye bye Desh.09:36
cool_nickfyrestrtr: still getting the same thing09:36
xedI just realized I'm installing version 5.04...09:36
gyaresuxed, just installing the base without  xorg or a window manager. really really small. then you just add what you need.09:36
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ic56foobear: /etc/profile is read first.  It provides the system configuration which is common to all users.  It is owned and managed by the system administrator09:37
xedgyaresu: I'd need quite a bit of experience with linux to do that, no?09:37
spikeits not that hard09:37
fyrestrtrcool_nick: did you enable universe?09:37
spikeyou just need to know that the server is gonna be used for09:37
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xedspike: you didn't finish...09:37
ic56foobear: ~/.profile is read second.  It provides private configuration for each user.  Each user owns his own such file and has the freedom to modify it as he pleases.  The initial default is copied by useradd from /etc/skel09:38
ic56foobear: does that clarify it?09:38
spikethats about all i had to say, i dont really know what he needs09:38
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xedspike: I just need a small backup machine that can run an office-like application (similar to MS Office), surf the net, and maybe use it as a web server?09:41
helpplzI get no sound in quake3 how can I fix?09:41
ruiwenhi guys, is the dapper installation able to resize ntfs partitions?09:41
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spikehrm09:42
Chubblyi'm in a similar position to xed here09:42
MetaMorfoziS!lmsensors09:42
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto09:42
spikeyou need the basic install09:42
Chubblyxubunutu?09:42
xedspike: Would it bad if I told you I just pressed enter when the splash screen came up09:42
xed?09:43
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spikebecause your probably gonna want to run OpenOffice.org, its an exellent word proccessor that works great with word09:43
spikeyes09:43
xed...well spike, I DID press enter. =(09:43
spikeanyway, just install any version (except edubuntu, i guess)09:43
spikejust restart then09:43
xed..oh man09:43
xedIt's like 3:43 AM here09:43
spikerough09:43
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spikeyou didnt permantly bonker anything09:44
xedNot like I'm sleeping till 6 AM anyways, but you know.. it's 3:43 AM!09:44
xedOH GOD it's DOING things!09:44
xedrandom text is flying off of the monitor!09:44
spikehaha09:44
spikeyea09:44
xedupdating maybe?09:44
spiketry a cold powerdown09:44
spikehold the button09:44
farousChubbly: is your system low on resources such as ram speed and disk space09:44
donkeyofdarknesshello09:44
spikewait, what do you have installed?09:44
kuHmm, is there any way to remove Rhythmbox? When I try to remove it through Synaptic, it makes me delete ubuntu-desktop too09:44
Chubblyyes09:44
xedUbuntu v.5.04...09:45
ruiwenhi.. is the dapper installation supposed to be able to resize NTFS partitions?09:45
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farousChubbly: then xubuntu is a good choice09:45
xedI put in the installation CD, booted.. when splash screen came up.. I pressed enter09:45
dli_ruiwen, yes, parted can do it09:45
Chubblyokay, good09:45
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Chubblythank you09:45
xedfarous: I wish someone would tell me what xubuntu is...09:45
farousyour welcomed09:45
spikewhy are you installing 5.0409:45
spike?09:45
farousxed: xface desktop09:45
xedspike: Because that's the CD that I got in the mail?09:45
spikefarous is probably right09:45
spikexfce is light09:45
spikeand you can run oo.o09:45
xedI just realized I finished downloading the latest.. 6.06 version..09:45
spikeand cron to do your backup09:45
spikegood call farous!09:45
farous:)09:46
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ruiwendli: i just tried to install it on a friend's laptop though.. but immediately after committing the changes, gparted hightlighted the partitions in black.. which i assume means it's corrupted?09:46
ruiwenany caveats to resizing NTFS?09:46
farousi hear there is fluxbuntu now09:46
tabmanhow can I change the default OS that grub loads ?09:46
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spikeedit the config file09:46
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spikeim really bad at that though09:46
iiiearsku - I din't know why it does that./ - unerving as hell. - i have removed other apps and seen the same message with no obvious harm done.09:46
donkeyofdarknessI'm having a problem getting my keyboard to work with ubuntu 5.10 for PPC09:46
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ruiwentabman: edit the "default" line in grub.conf?/menu.lst?09:46
jipi!nvidia09:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:46
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spikedonkey: whats not working right?09:47
xedI bet all this 'unpacking' the computer is doing would be a lot faster on a faster processor.. .. this 550MHz processor just not that fast. =(09:47
tabmanruiwen: where is this file ?09:47
donkeyofdarknessI booted the live cd but the keyboard isn't working at the boot menu09:47
iiiearsku - "removing ubuntu desktop" is scarey. - anyone know why it does that when you remove something?09:47
ruiwentabman: try /boot/grub for menu.lst09:47
spikexed: go and download xubuntu, itll run on a machine like that, and do everything oyu ant09:47
xedHmm.. and it seems that I've also just FINISHED BURNING version 6.06 LTS (whatever LTS means?!?)09:47
kuiiiears: ok, so it won't do any serious damage?09:47
spikedonkey: this is a usb keyboard, right?09:48
ruiwenxed: long term support?09:48
iiiearsku - I am gussing no. - but would really like someone to explain it.09:48
xedruiwen: NOW I know! </bill nye the science guy>09:48
benplautanyone know anything about getting integrated mem card readers working?09:48
spikexed: long term support09:48
donkeyofdarknessIt's a PS/2 kb plugged into a PS/2 to usb converter09:48
farousiiiears: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package (virual package) that depends on all required packages. removing it will not break anything/ It is required thought for dist-upgrade09:48
spikeusb doesnt always work on initial boot up09:48
xedspike: Where do I get xubuntu?09:48
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spikecan you get through it using your mouse and the screen keyboard?09:49
donkeyofdarknessIt's worked in the past, although it only worked about half the time.09:49
spikexed: ubuntu.com. its a link on the side09:49
xedspike: it's still unpacking things..09:49
donkeyofdarknessscreen keyboard?09:49
spikeill give you the direct download link if you want09:49
spikebecause it is09:49
iiiearsfarous - Ah.. - a bit of light there. - thanks.      Will that change the way i do the upgrade to edgy eft?09:49
xedCurses! I should've downloaded/burned this!09:49
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ruiwenanyone tried resizing an ntfs partition in the dapper install?09:50
spikedonkey: applications -> accessories > charecter map09:50
Ramunascan anybody help me to get winfast tv2000 xp tv-tuner to work?09:50
farousiiiears: it is recommended to have ubnuntu-desktop when you upgrade to edgy. will reduce upgrade problems09:50
deeprootHi, I am trying to install courier-imap but apt-get is forcing me to install postfix (as extra package) which I don't need. How can I specify it not to install postfix?09:50
iiiearsfarous - nvm - a fresh install is likely the best way to upgrade09:50
donkeyofdarknessI'm on PPC09:51
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spikeooo, so your not using the livecd install?09:51
farousiiiears: you do not need that this is not rpm based packages;) for fresh install will loose all your custom configurations09:51
donkeyofdarknessIt's ubuntu 5.1009:51
spikek09:51
kufarous: so you wouldn't recommend that I remove Rhythmbox? (which forces me to remove ubuntu-desktop in the process)09:52
spikeim not your man then, i think a script would be your best choice if it has to be 5.1009:52
donkeyofdarknessk09:52
farousku you can install ubuntu-desktop just befoe dist-upgrade ;)09:52
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xedspike: thanks a lot man, for this xubuntu reference, and anyone else who referred me to it09:52
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xedHopefully this'll be faster for my AMD 55009:52
kufarous: I'll probably forget... i'll just leave it in there for now then ^^ thx09:52
donkeyofdarknessIt'd probably work if I had an apple keyboard09:52
spikedonkey: probably, i think its the kernel not loading the drivers yet/not having them installed09:53
spikexed: no prod dude, do you need anything else?09:53
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donkeyofdarknessyeah, sometimes even OS X doesn't detect the keyboard or mouse.09:54
xedspike: what would you say I use that will support most MS Office files?09:54
farousxed: do you mix a lot of figures and text in your files and do lots of formating and equations09:54
spikeOpenOffice.org, which is very featureful, but uses alot of memory, or if your on a memory budget, AbiWord, which is lighter and supports .docs and whatnot, and uses less memories09:54
xedfabbione: Yes, sometimes...09:54
spikexed: use oo,o then09:55
xeder.. what?09:55
farousxed: can you forget about msoffice and use a similar package09:55
xedfarous: I don't really think MS Office will work on it.. I just want the files I use to work on it..09:55
xedfor example, power point presentation files?09:55
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farousopenoffice will still have some problems exporting and importing from msoffice especially for complicated formats such as equations09:56
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, so do you use ext3 or reiserfs?09:56
MetaMorfoziShow can i solve the liblircclient0 problem?09:56
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xedHmm.. farous: any other substitute other than open office?09:56
spikeabiword09:56
farousxed: for powerpoint you will have to adjust your equations a little09:56
farousxed: but openoffice have the best integration in the linux world with ms office09:56
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xedfarous: Alright, thanks a bunch.. Open Office it is..09:57
farousxed: in my case i had to have absolute compatbility so i run msoffice under linux09:57
spikexed: hes right, abiword is lighter, but oo.o is alot better if you need more than basic functionally09:57
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spikefuntionallity*09:57
xedfarous: what about ..hmm.. say I have a printer installed on a desktop using windows, and I share that printer over the network.. would I be able to use the printer?09:57
spikeyea09:58
farousxed: depending if your printer is supported09:58
spikexed: you need to set it up using smb, but itll probably work as long as its not too exotic09:58
A-L-P-H-4how do I connect to a local win32 computers shared folder/drive?  The destination is already shared, and viewable by other win32 machines.  I've installed samba09:58
livingdaylightwoah09:58
farouslinuxprinting.org to see if it is supported or not09:58
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spikefarous: does he need nfs do to that?09:58
spikealpha that is09:58
xedspike: what do you mean 'as long as it's not too exotic' ?09:59
fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: both09:59
gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, gnome or kde?09:59
farousspikr my printer is not supported so never actually gone through this config09:59
faroussorry spike09:59
A-L-P-H-4gyaresu, gnome.09:59
xedand what's smb?09:59
benplautanyone know anything about getting integrated mem card readers working?10:00
spikexed: its a networking interface between linux and windows10:00
gyaresuxed small message block10:00
iiiearsxed - http:\\codeweavers.com\  - MS Office on linux or XEN/QEMU/VMWare Player with windows guest OS  - 1 vote here for VMWare10:00
spikefarous: that means you need to search the ubuntu or linuxquestions.org forums on getting the drivers10:00
gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, do you want to permanently mount the remote folder?10:00
xediiiears: will keep that in mind10:00
A-L-P-H-4gyaresu, well... I'd like to learn both... perm and temp.10:00
farousspike: i did my homework it is not supported :)10:00
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gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, smbmount10:01
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, both, on the same box? no, that is not possible right?10:01
A-L-P-H-4gyaresu, it's a laptop (ubuntu) trying to connect to my winXP sp2 workstation.10:01
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spikefarous: rough dude, I dont know what to tell you then10:01
farousspike: nothing i knew that when i installed ubuntu10:01
gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test10:01
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spikefarous: ive heard of people installing drivers under wine, but i dont know if thats just a myth10:01
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gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, bit different if you're putting it in your /etc/fstab10:01
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fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: sure it is.10:02
DShepherdhow do I customise the launchers in my places menu?10:02
farousspike: frankly i doubt it. i dual boot for sccanning and printing which i do frequently10:02
livingdaylightok, can someone check my fdkisk -l i want to know if and how i can shave a considerable amount off to create another partition for a dual-boot10:02
farousso not a biggy here10:02
livingdaylighthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1884310:02
`pauldoing a command "make" but received "func.c:1:20: stdlib.h: No such file or directory" error help pls10:02
A-L-P-H-4gyaresu, thank you.  now how's it different in the fstab?10:02
spikefarous: no prob10:02
gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, and a credential file is a handy thing...//slave/stuff   /mnt/stuff      smbfs   credentials=/root/.smb_slave_stuff,auto,rw,dmask=777,fmask=777  0       010:02
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gyaresuA-L-P-H-4,  ^^10:02
spikepaul: that sounds like a syntax problem, do oyu have gcc installed?10:02
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`paulwhere are my stdlib.h etc located?10:03
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, huh? so one needn't be consistent with using one system or the other on one machine?10:03
spikeit should have come with gcc10:03
`pauli think the problem is he cant locate thos files10:03
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`paul@spike10:03
spikethere standard c header files10:03
spikeo10:03
marcus__Is it possible to play mkv files in linux?10:03
spikepaul: not sure then10:03
MeTa[AwAy] _why i need liblircclient0 and libc6? if i want to install some codecs it said it needs10:03
xedI do NOT understand what just happened...10:03
dli_`paul, get build-essential10:03
gyaresumarcus__, matroska files... i think so.10:04
MeTa[AwAy] _but i don't need linux infrared client, because the stable ver is old10:04
marcus__gyaresu: any idea which player to use?10:04
A-L-P-H-4gyaresu, thanks.10:04
gyaresumarcus__, videolan10:04
xeddamnit! I think I just downloaded/burned the LIVE cd for the latest one ! =(10:04
gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, you're welcome.10:04
marcus__gyaresu: I'll give it a try and share if it works. Thanks.10:04
gyaresumarcus__, or mplayer10:04
A-L-P-H-4gyaresu, What happens when there is no password for a share?  I did sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.100/e10:05
DShepherdhow do I customise the launchers in my places menu?10:05
gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, username=,password=10:05
`paulwat do you mean @dli_10:05
gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, leave them blank10:05
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farous`paul: install build-essential package10:05
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, did you go to the loo?10:05
livingdaylightcan someone help me with my partitioning table?10:06
livingdaylighthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1884310:06
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A-L-P-H-4gyaresu, "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=,password= //192.168.1.100/e" still spits back wrong fs type.10:06
gyaresulivingdaylight, aye.10:06
A-L-P-H-4gyaresu, mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported10:06
A-L-P-H-4google is my friend. :)10:07
livingdaylightmy hard drive (sda) is now sda1, sda2 and sda510:07
farous`paul: that to install c and other packages you need to compile10:07
gyaresulivingdaylight, you'll not like this but... get another HDD. even a small one. It's just not worth nuking a drive over.10:07
gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, odd.10:07
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livingdaylightgyaresu, nuking?10:07
iiiearsA-L-P-H-4 - google is a good friend indeed. - could they have made that error message any more cryptic?10:08
livingdaylightgyaresu, 160 should be plenty to create a dual-boot, no?10:08
livingdaylightgyaresu, are you suggesting i would destroy it?10:08
gyaresulivingdaylight, Partitioning is still black magic. Chances of nuking your partition stucture is not worth the greif (if there's anything you want to keep on the 160GB drive that is...)10:08
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fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: helping someone in another channel. Look, you can have as many partitions as your system can support, each can be of a different type. I have one reiserfs and one ext3. On my server I have a partition type for all the different arch. we use at the company.10:08
gyaresulivingdaylight, yes. it is as long as it's not your only computer and you care about the data on it.10:09
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gyaresulivingdaylight, /me only ever dual with multiple drives (except my laptops)10:09
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xed"x" won't start10:09
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xedman, ubuntu's getting to me again..10:09
gyaresuxed, cat /var/log/Xorg.log.blah10:10
A-L-P-H-4gyaresu, "sudo apt-get install smbfs" fixed it.10:10
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livingdaylightgyaresu, its only a fresh install so nothing precious here, and yes, its my own computer to trash so....10:10
IRCMonkeyxhi to all, how can i change from ext2 to ext3 ?10:10
gyaresuA-L-P-H-4, sorry. my bad. i knew that.10:10
farousxed: did you install it or is that the livecd10:10
iiiearsxed - Take a deep breath. go to thje fridge for a cold drink and relax we'll get you through this.10:10
A-L-P-H-4gyaresu, np... you pointed me to smbfs... I didn't even know that... or I forget it at least. :)10:10
gyaresulivingdaylight, you doing xp or another linux?10:10
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, wow, each partition can have a different file journaling system10:10
xedfarous: i installed it... and it says "x" isn't located in the right place or something the other and it can't boot it...10:10
snoopsanyone having issues with gaim connecting?10:10
livingdaylightgyaresu, another linux10:10
fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: yes.10:11
IRCMonkeyxhi to all, how can i change my linux drive  from ext2 to ext3 ?10:11
farousxed: is the box you have ubuntu on connected to the net10:11
gyaresulivingdaylight, df -h10:11
xedand I just downloaded Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and burned it.. and restarted with that in there..and it just says something about "Adding live CD user...".. ...does that mean it's a live cd?10:11
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iiiearsxed = "sudo lspci" in the terminal write down what it says about the vga device10:11
livingdaylightgyaresu, i have 160gb but when i install ubuntu why does it come up as 149gb?10:11
gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, Back it up first and then...10:12
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iiiearsxed - feeling nerdy? - try sudo lspci -v10:12
fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: do you have any other operating system on it?10:12
gyaresulivingdaylight, binary v. decimal.10:12
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fyrestrtrno need for sudo on lspci10:12
xediiiears: going above my head here.....10:12
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fyrestrtrxed: lspci | grep VGA10:12
gyaresulivingdaylight, marketing department ruined the measurement of HDD's many years ago and it is now just silly cause the drives are so large.10:12
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: is it releated with fstab??10:13
xedfyrestrtr, iiiears: where do I go about typing all this in...?10:13
`paulhow do u search for files?10:13
livingdaylightgyaresu,  df -h: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1884510:13
fyrestrtrxed: in a terminal window10:13
xedman.. what the HELL...10:13
fyrestrtr`paul: in nautilus or at the terminal?10:13
xed..THERE we go10:13
fyrestrtr!terminal10:13
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands10:13
farous`paul: located filename and find filename10:13
xedI see a graphical user interface.. I think..10:13
xedWell.. I see a MOUSE10:13
iiiearsxed -  That ugly (should a been a GUI by now screen) command line10:13
xed..on screen10:13
xed...that's about it.. I'm guessing it's a live cd10:14
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gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, http://xlife.zuavra.net/columns/20020211/10:14
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, no, that is what flumexes me. It says there is 160gb, but when i click to manually partition then it says only 14910:14
xedbecause it's going REALLY SLOW10:14
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`paulterminal10:14
fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: is your bios detecting it correctly?10:14
xedI managed to download Ubuntu (the 650MB ISO) in 10 minutes, while this xubuntu is taking me an HOUR...10:14
fyrestrtrxed: bad mirror10:14
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: thanx10:14
gyaresulivingdaylight, you are on a fresh system. partitioning from a LiveCD?10:14
fyrestrtrxed: by the way, why are you downloading the xubuntu iso?10:15
xedfyrestrtr: link me to a faster one?10:15
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xedfyrestrtr: because.. someone suggested it be better for a slower machine...?10:15
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, says 160 and ubuntu installer says 160 and gives me the option to use all of it or to manually partition when i manually partition i see 14910:15
gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, backupbackupbackupbackup10:15
rpedro_IRCMonkeyx: or this one: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm10:15
iiiearsxed - bad mnirror? - jeez will it take seven years for him to D/L it?10:15
xedseven years?!10:15
xedOh man, I hope not10:15
livingdaylightgyaresu, yes, fresh that is i have just installed from liveCD10:15
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gyaresulivingdaylight, partion away then.10:16
fyrestrtrxed: you don't have an operating system installed on there yet?10:16
xedI tried all the servers, are they all capped to a maximum speed of 125KBps?10:16
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: new linux user here, how to backup, any spesific tool for it?10:16
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: new linux user here, how to backup, any spesific tool for it?10:16
fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: you are probably a victim of unit conversion.10:16
xedfyrestrtr: Apparently NOT but I am SURE that 5.04 finished.. but 5.04 wouldn't.. boot "x", whatever that is..10:16
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xedand then it took me to this screen to login10:16
livingdaylightgyaresu, sure, that is the slightly tricky part. HOW? or what? sda1?10:16
HobbseeIRCMonkeyx: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3508710:16
gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, how big are your drives? how full? etc. "df -h" "fdisk -l"10:17
livingdaylightfyrestrtr, well, i'm certainly a victim of something i know that ; )10:17
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livingdaylight;010:17
gyaresulivingdaylight, yes. sda110:17
fyrestrtrxed: sorry to tell you this, but you could have saved yourself a lot of hassle, by downloading the alternate install cd, type 'server' at the boot prompt and then typing sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :)10:17
livingdaylightgyaresu, and i need to make it sdb1?10:17
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gyaresulivingdaylight, nope. 'serial disk a partition 1'10:18
xed" 0000:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX Mach64 GX]  (rev 01) "10:18
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iiiearsxed - when ya get to the darn blues screen that tells you how bad the xserver setup went, take a deep breath a cold drink of soda and use the info from lspci about bus ID 0.01.0  - (looks like that tho yours may be different)10:18
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xedI get that when I type in "lspci | grep VGA in the terminal window10:18
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livingdaylightgyaresu, ok, you lost me10:19
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: i am on xp now, but my linux drive is 14.42 gb and it is new may be 3-4 gb, i have winmodem no connection from ubuntu10:19
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: i am on xp now, but my linux drive is 14.42 gb and it is new may be i have data 3-4 gb, i have winmodem no connection from ubuntu10:19
xediiiears: You lost me with the .. bus ID10:19
cotrolerHi guys just rebooted i got this error: EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) any help?10:19
livingdaylightgyaresu, you said sda1 needs to be used. so, i gotta rename what i remove so to speak10:19
gyaresulivingdaylight, you need a 'serial disk a partition 2' and you'd be best doing that from a GUI Partioner like Gpart off a live disk.10:19
iiiearsxed - then know you are going to have a working system in the time it takes to type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and answer a few questions at the prompt10:20
livingdaylightgyaresu, i can use cfdisk ?10:20
xediiiears: so you would like me to type in.. what?10:20
BeBrawhow can i configure calendar to show dates in different order?10:20
xedI think I'm in a live version of this right now10:20
benplautanyone know anything about getting integrated mem card readers working?10:20
livingdaylightgyaresu, i'm also looking at Gparted on my system System/Admin/Gnome Partition Editor10:21
iiiearsxed - It's gonna look something like "0.01.0"   plug those numbers you got form lspci into the sudo dpkg xserver-xorg thingy10:21
gyaresulivingdaylight, not good to cut a circular hole in the floor while your sitting in the middle ;)10:21
gyaresulivingdaylight, ^^10:21
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iiiearsxed - lspcii10:21
gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, two computers?10:21
xediiiears: When I type in "lspci | grep VGA" into the terminal, I get  " 0000:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX Mach64 GX]  (rev 01) "10:21
iiiearslspci - eye canned spell10:21
livingdaylightgyaresu, ooops....is it like sawing a branch off a tree while sitting on the wrong side of it?10:22
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IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: one computer , two OS10:22
gyaresulivingdaylight, indeed.10:22
livingdaylighthe is confused, only utterly10:22
gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, ah. two drives?10:22
xediiiears: what do I do with this information?10:22
MeTa[AwAy] __!audacious10:22
livingdaylightgyaresu, i understand the metaphor but not in the context of our discussion10:22
ubotuI know nothing about audacious - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:22
cotroler!EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found)10:23
ubotuI know nothing about EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:23
livingdaylightgyaresu, can i use cfdisk to partition or shave off sda1 and then resinstall ubuntu if i had to?10:23
gyaresulivingdaylight, you can't do the partitioning from the OS because you only have one partion where all the progs etc are running from.10:23
iiiearsxed - plug the numbers in there.  to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   - or grab a gander at a couple of examples from folks with ATI cards on the web and copy the bus id line10:23
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: i have C and D drives as windows, E drive is ubuntu, and one more drive for swap10:24
livingdaylightgyaresu, so why do they give and put gparted in the software if it can't be done from within?10:24
gyaresulivingdaylight, you have to unmount the partitions on a drive to partition it. you only have one drive.10:24
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gyaresulivingdaylight, ^^10:24
xediiiears: but .. I think I ..MIGHT be running a live ..version of the CD.. so should I still do that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing?10:24
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livingdaylightgyaresu, aguess, this is is beyond a noob like me to figure out *sigh*10:25
iiiearsxed - sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf     is the file that stores info for display keyboard and mice10:25
livingdaylight:s10:25
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livingdaylightHey, anyone here from London wanna partition my harddrive?!10:25
livingdaylighti make a good cup of tea!10:25
iiiearsxed - Okay, i got to admit it. - now you have me confused, - not that hard really when it comes down to it.10:26
gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, only 15GB on the linux drive eh? and do you have the Windows ext2 driver installed? i.e. can you read the E: drive?10:26
necroticHow can I get the kernel sources with apt-get?10:26
livingdaylightgot a few cool ones in the fridge too if that is more the thing ;)10:26
gyaresulivingdaylight, you just need to do the partitioning from a LiveCD10:26
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xediiiears: when I meant "live version of the cd", I actually meant to say "live version of Ubuntu"10:26
gyaresulivingdaylight, go to distrowatch.org and get the latest gparted partioning CD if you have any bandwidth.10:27
livingdaylightgyaresu, ok, so any LiveCD gparted partition and then re-install all the os's10:27
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xediiiears: I installed Ubuntu v 5.04, and "x" wouldn't come up.. some blue ..screen .. some errors or whatnot.. and then I put in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS into the cd-rom and rebooted.. I think it MIGHT be the LIVE CD...10:27
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livingdaylightgyaresu, bandwith is no problem10:27
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IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: i cant read drive E from windows, but i can read and write to windows from ubuntu10:27
iiiearsxed - erm - i guess the option is to D/L the alternate version (text install) there just has to be a better answer. - someone else has to know it.10:27
farousxed: you can not do anything untill ubuntu is installed on the harddisk10:27
gyaresulivingdaylight, no need to reinstall the current one. you're just shrinking sda1 and adding sda2 sda2 etc.10:27
CyDriveCan anyone reccomend a good webcam video capture and picure program10:27
livingdaylightgyaresu, will it ruin my ubuntu installation if i reduce sda1 which effectively has been all alocated to ubuntu10:28
farous!easycam10:28
ubotuI know nothing about easycam - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:28
farous!find easycam10:28
ubotuNo packages matching 'easycam' could be found10:28
CyDriveok10:28
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xediiiears: what if I booted into 5.04, and got into the console and did that sudo dpkg or whatever you told me to do earlier?10:28
xediiiears: would that work?10:28
gyaresulivingdaylight, it might. but it shouldn't it does as you say 'shave off' some empty space.10:28
gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, fat32 partition on window eh? that'll do the trick.10:29
farous!cam10:29
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras10:29
farousthere you go10:29
iiiearsfarous - Psst. psst, don't tell xed but there has got to be a way to start the install.sh script from CLI. - i dunno] 10:29
kevinzhello.. i have a weird problem. I used to use rhythmbox. The quality of mp3 playing is changing.. at the very beginning the effect is good, after installing some gstream plugins i feel that it was not as good as before, but i have no proof for it. Today I try to use amarok and install xine lib, the music from amaroK is significantly better from rythmbox, but that's why?10:29
livingdaylightgyaresu, right, but about adding sda2 etc don't i have to assign a differnet name? sdb1 sdc1? etc?10:29
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livingdaylightgyaresu, i already have sda1 and sda2 and sda510:29
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IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: drive c iis ntfs,drive d is fat32,drive e is ext210:30
iiiearsxed - if you have an option to do that without a long wait to finish a download i would do it.10:30
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: drive c is ntfs,drive d is fat32,drive e is ext210:30
notjosh110i've hada google around.. but does anyone know a decent guide for configuring sympa (and wwsypma) on ubuntu (dapper)?10:30
livingdaylightgyaresu, that is ubuntu. For another partition for a nother os i need to rename and make it sdb or something, no?10:30
xediiiears: What's the point of installing Ubuntu again.. i already have it installed, I just don't have x working.. and when it doesn't work.. it just takes me into this text mode only thing10:30
farousiiiears: OK will not tell him for i do nto know how10:30
gyaresulivingdaylight, not from the link you sent you don't. link again "fdisk -l"10:30
farousiiiears: PSST psst remind me of how my daughter call me all day10:30
iiiearsxed - dude - i am confused again. - are you using the live cd in RAM or a disk install.10:31
ghostghosthi i'm trying to kill a process using kill pid but i wont die, is there as more aggressive way of dispatching it?10:31
xediiiears: currently in the live cd..  but I DO have Ubuntu installed it seems.. just that 'x' isn't working10:31
livingdaylightgyaresu, fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1884610:31
iiiearsxed - grab the bus id number from lspci10:31
xedyeah, I copied/pasted and emailed it to myself when I was using live cd10:32
ghostghostsomething really nasty like destroy_kill_megadeath pid?10:32
livingdaylightgyaresu, like if it was hda1 and hda2 and hda5 for ubuntu; the next partition for another os would be hdb1 hdb2 etc, right?10:32
xediiiears: I typed in lspci into the terminal, then copied and pasted the results into an email I sent to myself10:32
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gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, so for backing up (if you have everything in home) you need to cp everything (recursive preserve etc.) to the fat32 partition10:32
iiiearsxed - then use that number to edit    /etc/X11/xorg.conf or run that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  mantra10:33
xediiiears: mantra?10:33
iiiearsxed -  it's a prayer to the computer gods.10:33
gyaresulivingdaylight, cool. so you need sda310:33
xedfair enough10:33
iiiearsxed - honestly - you will have your desktop in less than 15 mins10:34
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gyaresulivingdaylight, the a is for 'a drive' and b would be for a different drive.10:34
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xediiiears: well, if this doesn't work.. I'm just hoping that when I put in this xubuntu ISO cd into the drive.. that I can just overwrite and install it quickly and without any problems...10:34
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livingdaylightgyaresu, but that is still part of the sda family; what i'm asking is dont i need to creat another family/house say sdb10:34
gyaresu!partition10:34
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks10:34
gyaresulivingdaylight, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah10:35
xedThis is interesting10:35
kane77hi, how can I terminate unwanted internet connection...???10:35
DShepherddoes previewing sound files work for anyone?10:35
DShepherddoes previewing sound files in nautilus work for anyone?10:35
gyaresulivingdaylight, One drive == One letter.10:35
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dobblegoI have 2 x SATA drives, both with a Ubuntu image on them; each time I boot, the image that I *don't* want to use is booted (/dev/sda1); how can I boot the other disk (/dev/sdb1)?10:36
gyaresulivingdaylight, sdb* would be a second sata drive.10:36
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gyaresudobblego, got grub installed?10:36
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dobblegogyaresu, affirmative10:36
Elakdobblego, leave temporanely sda :)10:36
DeshHow do I check my CPU's FSB?10:36
farousdobblego: you normally set that from the bios10:36
dobblegoElak, I don't follow that10:36
dobblegofarous, ok, I might take a look10:37
farousdobblego: this is your boot order10:37
gyaresudobblego, you just need to change the grub.conf and update grub10:37
xediiiears: "Package 'xserver-xorg' is not installed an no info is available."10:37
gyaresu!grub10:37
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:37
farousdobblego: you can do it another way is to change the menu.lst in /boot/grub10:37
helpplzhow can I use ALSA wrapper for oss apps? I dont even know what to download10:38
xediiiears?10:38
gyaresudobblego, farous thanks. yes. menu.lst is indeed the file.10:38
iiiearsxed -  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - was that the command ?10:38
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dobblegofarous, I want to blast away the other disk10:38
xedyes10:38
xediiiears: yes10:38
DelgulHi, I keep getting "perl: warning: Setting locale failed" warnings in dapper drake. dpkg-reconfigure locales does not work. Any ideas?10:38
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: is there any simple way to move all, from ubuntu to fat32 drive ?10:38
farousdobblego: what do you mean by blast away10:38
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gyaresuhelpplz, have you read the alsa howto? alsa-oss is pretty normal these days.10:38
dobblegofarous, rm -rf /10:39
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: i mean if i do cp when i am home directory, is it enough?10:39
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: i mean if i do cp when i am at home directory, is it enough?10:39
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farousdobblego: where is grub installed is it installed on both harddisks10:39
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ZenthHi10:39
iiiearsxed - check the command for tipos. - erm teyepos - i mean typos10:39
helpplzgyaresu: nope.. it maybe pretty normal but im new to linux and trying to get sound in quake running <310:39
Hobbseei wish people *wouldnt* give otu that command.10:39
gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, if that's where you have stored all your personal files then yeah. but it's gonna be like "cp -rvfp" something_something.10:40
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farousHobbsee: you made a mistake10:40
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iiiearshobbsee - Which command?10:40
Hobbseeiiiears: the one to remove absolutely everything10:40
gyaresuhelpplz, ah-ha. wait one.10:40
farousHobbsee: he was telling me he want to remove one of his hardisks10:40
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dobblegowtf?10:40
xediiiears: "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is not installed"10:40
Hobbseedobblego: sorry, my mistake10:40
Hobbseedobblego: didnt want a new user to misuse that command though10:40
ZenthI have one question... is posible to configure Nautilus to show the filenames shortened?10:41
farousdobblego: she thought you were giving bad advise10:41
iiiearsHobbsee - "Perma ban" - with a bag 'O chips10:41
helpplzgyaresu: wait one second?10:41
farousdobblego: cheers :)10:41
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gyaresuhelpplz, yep.10:41
dobblegook10:41
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helpplzgyaresu: alrighty10:41
farousdobblego: where is grub installed is it installed on both harddisks10:41
dobblegofarous, I just swapped the SATA cables and it seems to work :)10:42
Hobbseeiiiears: nah, i wasnt going to leave it there permanetnly10:42
iiiearsxed - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:42
dobblegoat least, the right disk is making noise10:42
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xediiiears: that's what i typed in10:42
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farousok so you have it on both. you could have done that by changing the boot order from bios :)10:42
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: cp -rvfp ?? is it correct rvfp? i havent hear it until now10:42
dobblegoyep - swapping the cables worked10:42
dobblegofarous, yeah I fiddled in BIOS, which is where I got the idea to swap the cables, cheers :)10:43
gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, man cp (i'll have a look too)10:43
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farouscheers :)10:43
iiiearsxed - Darn machine. - take a minute to stretch and take a sip of water.10:43
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xediiiears: alright, doing so now... I guess...10:43
xediiiears: you restarting?10:43
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: ok sir, i do it, thanx10:43
buntaMorning folks :P (Its morning time in the UK :P) Is it possible to play movie files in firefox in linux?10:44
buntayou know, the ones that are embemended in sites etc..10:44
bobbywyep10:44
BeBrawbunta: have you tried easyubuntu?10:44
buntaeasyubuntu? :o10:44
farousbunta: you will need mozilla-mplayer or totem-mplayer packages10:44
bobbywI'm rather sure using ubuntu you can do it with easybuntu or even better, automatix10:44
buntaI've tried mozilla-mplayer10:44
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buntanothing actually shows up =/10:44
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farousbunta: is it realplayer file10:45
iiiearsxed - Hobbsee - you just gotta help me with this. - i am out ideas to relate10:45
buntano10:45
buntawmv10:45
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buntaThe plugin doesnt show up10:45
xedHobbsee?10:45
farousbunta: strange did you restart firefox after installing the plugin10:45
xedare you sure this Hobbsee isn't afk?10:45
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xedah10:45
xedwell Hobbsee, what say you?10:45
buntayeah, I'm using swiftfox..10:45
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Bergcubebobbyw~  In my personal experience:  EasyUbuntu = Good.  Automatix = Bad.  I've tried both (on different computers).  One of them munged the system, one did not.10:45
IRCMonkeyxgyaresu: last question, is there any chance to see ubuntu drive read/write from windows, c is ntf, d is fat 32, e is ext210:45
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Hobbseexed: sorry, what's the problem?10:46
iiiearsxed - i could type sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg     again it won't help.  (WAIT! i just did type it again)10:46
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farousbunta: the plugin is under /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/10:46
buntaI did the ln thing.. * checks again *10:46
CanadaGradeEhQuick, hopefully simple question:10:46
CanadaGradeEhHow do I log in as admin?10:46
farousbunta: you can point your browser to search there for the plugins10:46
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CanadaGradeEhI had to edit a file in usr/share/java and it wouldn't let me10:46
iiiearsxed someone else has to bail me out.10:46
gyaresuIRCMonkeyx, yeah there is an ext2/3 driver for xp (google, it's near the top) but i always seem to need to fsck after rebooting. so not the prefered way of doing things.10:47
farous!sudo > CanadaGradeEh:10:47
xediiiears: I see what you're saying.. you're saying I'm screwed.10:47
CanadaGradeEhThank you10:47
farous!sudo > CanadaGradeEh10:47
CanadaGradeEhI can't log in from the session screen?10:47
xediiiears: You're also saying I should just install XP on this machine and give up all hope on life?10:47
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bobbywautomatix, when it works correctly, which it did for me, has more software so I like it more :P10:47
iiiearsxed - i amn just thinking there has to be a simple typo. - but i don't know where.10:47
farousCanadaGradeEh: you need sudo for su privlages10:47
xedmaybe it's the location I'm in?10:47
gyaresuhelpplz, I've got this one in a script I use to start quake "quake4 +set s_driver oss  CMI8738MC8 +set s_numberOfSpeakers 2"10:48
CanadaGradeEhThat's it? I have to do all my admin work through command line?10:48
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xedit says on the screen "nauman@ubuntu550:~$"10:48
helpplzgyaresu: I use quake3 though.. would that still work?10:48
iiiearsxed - it's late and likely we are both a little tired10:48
dobblegowhat's the command to format a disk?10:48
CanadaGradeEhDon't get me wrong, I'll be happy to leran and use command line with time. I wouldn't be using Ubuntu if I wasn't10:48
CanadaGradeEhbut right now if possible I'd just like to drag, drop, copy, paste, etc using folders and the gui10:48
farousCanadaGradeEh: it is not wise to do it graphically10:48
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CanadaGradeEhok =\10:48
buntaokey I just coppied all the plugins from that directory to swiftfox's10:49
farousCanadaGradeEh: you can do that with sudo10:49
CanadaGradeEhGuess I gotta learn the command line for my thingy I wanna do10:49
buntalets try now :p10:49
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tzardubuntu is a biased distribution, favoring Gnome, which sucks to me, it doesn't give me the option from the beginning to choose my desktop10:49
farousCanadaGradeEh: sudo nautilus to drag and drop in graphical mode10:49
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marcus__gyaresu: Yes mkv does play in VLC. Thanks for the help. :)10:49
CanadaGradeEhThank you10:49
farousCanadaGradeEh: gksudo gedit to edit files in graphical env10:49
gyaresumarcus__, good news :)10:49
DaveyJtzard: get kubuntu, problem solved10:49
Hit3ktzard, there are other ubuntu distrobutions10:49
farous:)10:49
xediiiears: what do you suggest? do you suggest I give up on life?10:49
xedHobbsee is clearly not here.10:50
marcus__gyaresu: Definitely good news10:50
buntaOdd..10:50
buntaswiftfox crashes10:50
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gyaresuhelpplz, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=26097510:50
iiiearsxed - nah -take a minute and see if there isn't a typo10:50
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buntaVery weird x.x10:50
xediiiears: already did10:50
gyaresuhelpplz, the NOT RECOMMENDED bit is what i was looking for. should fix it.10:50
dobblegois there a command to format a disk? it seems difficult to google it10:51
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CanadaGradeEhThank you very much, farous. That was simple :)10:51
Hit3kdobblego, rm -rf /dir/to/disk10:51
gyaresudobblego, mkfs.vfat etc...10:51
dobblegogyaresu, cheers10:51
Hit3koh10:51
xediiiears: do I have to be in a certain directory to do this?10:51
Hit3kformat10:51
CanadaGradeEhSo 'sudo insertapphere' will allow me root powers to the app I specify?10:51
Hit3ki thought you meant10:51
farousman mkfs dobblego10:51
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Hit3kFORMAT10:51
helpplzgyaresu: I dont remember if one of those was the same command I tried but when I tried it the sound worked and when I tried to enter a game it would freeze like a screen shot10:51
iiiearsxed - no, it should work from anywhere.10:51
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gyaresudobblego, if you want fat though you'll need dosfs-tools (or some such name)10:52
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xediiiears: well according to this.. it's not even installed, so how do I go about installing it?10:52
farousCanadaGradeEh: you got it10:52
iiiearsxed    had you seen this link?10:52
helpplzgyaresu: I mean awhile back..10:52
kangacunthello10:52
iiiears!display10:52
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:52
kangacunthow do i get gcc up and running on ubuntu?10:52
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farouskangacunt: install build-essential10:52
Hit3kapt-get install build-essential10:53
CanadaGradeEhWhat an appealing name.10:53
CanadaGradeEhKangacunt :P10:53
gyaresuhelpplz, did you try installing other sound servers like arts etc. ? cause that may also have been why it didn't work.10:53
helpplzgyaresu: even the person on there had the same isse10:53
bobbywor even easier sudo apt-get install gcc10:53
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kangacunti tried apt-get gcc10:53
kangacuntbut it wont compile anything10:53
CanadaGradeEh!gcc10:53
gyaresukangacunt, how about a nick change thanks.10:53
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:53
helpplzgyaresu: no I havent.. how might I do it?10:53
xedUbuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"10:53
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xedWhat's "Hoary Hedgehog" ?10:53
gyaresuhelpplz, no don't.10:53
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bobbywan older version of ubuntu10:53
helpplzgyaresu: install arts etc.?10:53
Hit3kxed, the name of the distrobution10:54
buntaHow do I remove a ln?10:54
iiiearsxed - I am still here to help where i can.10:54
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kangacntok its changed :)10:54
gyaresuhelpplz, throwing more at it isn't the answer it just makes it more messy. part of the problem of 'trying everything'10:54
kangacntnow how can i get gcc working10:54
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kangacntplease10:54
gyaresubunta, which ln?10:54
ic56bunta: rm <pathname>10:54
xed"I cannot start X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"   <Yes> | <No>10:55
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buntasudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .10:55
cool_nickwhenever i use this command : sudo apt-get install **** i get the following message : E: Couldn't find package ****, any suggestions?10:55
buntaThat LN10:55
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gyaresubunta, if it's a folder then when you 'rm' it don't have the trailing slash: e.g. "rm /home/me/link"10:55
helpplzgyaresu: well I thought the alsa wrapper may help it out cause it sais that same sound error everyone gets and with the help of the wrapper it would allow access to /dev or w/e.. unless you know of another way10:55
buntaI want to remove that link :p10:55
kangacnthello how do i get gcc running on ubuntu?10:56
Hit3kcool_nick, it means the package isnt found it'd help if we knew what you wanted10:56
buntaIts the wrong long, so I need to remove it.. it shud be sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/* .10:56
ic56bunta: sudo rm <pathname>10:56
gyaresubunta, "rm /usr/lib/blah/plugins" *no trailing "/"10:56
xediiiears: I can show you the error if you want...10:56
Hit3kkangacnt, sudo apt-get install gcc10:56
sun_Hi All..is there free DVB-IPI server s/w in ubuntu ?..any one help me to get info10:56
buntathanks :)10:56
xediiiears: Can I PM you?10:57
cool_nickHit3k: acroread, azureus10:57
Hit3kapt-cache search azureus?10:57
buntaits a directory10:57
ic56bunta: careful, gyaresu's instruction is probably *not* what you wanted10:57
buntaI dont want to remove the directory10:57
iiiearsxed - pastebin10:57
buntaI want to remove the symlink10:57
iiiears!paste10:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:57
ic56bunta: sudo rm <pathname>10:57
buntaWhat do u mean by pathname? as in: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ ?10:58
gyaresucool_nick, azureus is rubbish. java is a memory hog. try rtorrent or ktorrent or something else.10:58
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ic56bunta: no.  I mean the target which your ln -s command created10:58
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aroonihey folks.... when i try to grep like.... grep $$ -r .     ... even though there are files with '$$' in them, grep wont work10:58
buntaoh k, so this: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .10:59
gyaresuic56, bunta "ls -al /usr/lib/mozilla/"10:59
xediiiears: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1884710:59
iiiearsxed - Okay! :)10:59
buntao.o10:59
aroonican someone help me grep properly?10:59
buntaits fine.. I'll make another symbolic link10:59
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ic56bunta: the ln -s command created symlinks in . (= your current directory).  Use "ls" to see what symlinks it created10:59
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Vrathahello!10:59
xediiiears: does that help at all?10:59
gyaresuic56, bunta find which one is the link. make sure. then remove it if you wish. if it's a link to a directory then you need to remove the slash at the end.10:59
CanadaGradeEh|BUHello, Vratha10:59
cool_nickgyaresu: but, what what bout the error?10:59
GG_Allin1how do I install KDE in ubuntu?11:00
gyaresuarooni, grep? in what way?11:00
Vrathaany of you installed dapper drake and gotten to gdm only to enter a username and have it freeze when you hit "enter"?11:00
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gyaresucool_nick, sorry. didn't see the error.11:00
aroonigyaresu: i know that the '$$' is found in the files.. but i think i need to escape it someway11:01
CanadaGradeEh|BUHmm, I can't say I have. Sorry I can't help you, Vratha.11:01
iiiearsxed - It sure does. - now i now absolutely and positively how new and uninformed i am - never seen that before11:01
CanadaGradeEh|BUI actually thought I might be able to considering how damn many problems I've encountered11:01
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cool_nickgyaresu: i've selected the universe and the multiverse option, but still. . .11:01
yelekcan anyone help a brotha out with a simple (i think) question11:01
iiiearsxed - hobbsee hobbsee - you got to help.  xed see the pastebin link11:01
xediiiears: So you're telling me that you can't help me?11:01
xedHobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1884711:02
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gyaresuarooni, example?11:02
CanadaGradeEh|BUSomeone help the man :D lol11:02
CanadaGradeEh|BU(02:00:15) Vratha: any of you installed dapper drake and gotten to gdm only to enter a username and have it freeze when you hit "enter"?11:02
Flannelcool_nick: are you sure it's in the repository?11:02
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Hobbseexed: eek? where does your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf point to, and is it the right place?11:03
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cool_nickgyaresu: yep11:03
xedYou're going to have to explain to me what ...that means..11:03
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Flannelcool_nick: which package you looking for?11:03
buntaOkey11:03
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buntathe plugins load up11:03
buntabut.. I get no picture11:03
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buntaas in the words.. no picture11:03
xedHobbsee: I have gdm.conf open right now, I just don't know what ..where to look11:03
cool_nickFlannel: azureus, acroread11:03
FlannelGG_Allin1: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:04
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Hobbseexed: i dont know either.  iiiears, what does your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf look like?11:04
Badm4nis zebra is good for ubuntu breezy "11:04
Badm4n?11:04
Hobbseeiiiears: and how does it compare with xed's?11:04
Flannelcool_nick: azureus isn't in the repositories, but there is a howto.  acroread is.11:04
xediiiears: ...?11:04
iiiearshobbsee - okay, - it is nVidia. - i guess t looks a bit different11:04
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GG_Allin1ok, thanks.  I can add KDE to ubuntu and choose which desktop (Gnome or KDE) from the login menu can't I?11:05
helpplzgyaresu: am I dead in the water then? are you not there anymore11:05
Hobbseeiiiears: i've got absolutely no idea - i dont even have gnome/gdm installed11:05
iiiearsnever seen a bus ID listed  0.0F.0011:05
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HobbseeGG_Allin1: yes,k you can11:05
JohnRobertdoes anyone know if the 6.06 LTS live cd has reiserfs support included in it's kernel by default?11:05
cool_nickFlannel: i tried  sudo apt-get install azureus but i'm this error : E: Couldn't find package azureus11:05
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zcat[1] JohnRobert: yes11:05
Flannelcool_nick: right, because azureus isn't in the repositories11:05
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gyaresuhelpplz, i'm here but also doing some 'real' work. what's going on?11:05
zcat[1] I think so anyhow..11:06
JohnRobertso I don't need to pass the kernel a reiserfs flag?11:06
JohnRobertor switch or arguument or param or whatever11:06
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iiiearsususally for nVidia it's 0.01.00   or 00.02.0011:06
xedso what you're telling me is that I'm screwed?11:06
zcat[1] fairly sure it does since it can install to reiserfs11:06
helpplzgyaresu: the q3 no sound? I didnt know you ended the convo.11:06
cool_nickFlannel: but, in the howto's this is the command for installing azureus11:06
FlannelJohnRobert: it should be, if not, it's in the alternateCD, it's an installation option11:06
iiiearsxed - i don't know the answer11:06
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gyaresuhelpplz, sorry. thought you were trying the pcmcp0 trick.11:07
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JohnRobertthanks Flannel11:07
xedOH YES.. I'm screwed11:07
=== zcat[1] always uses reiser, and I've done a couple off the desktop CD already.
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JohnRobertno you're not xed11:07
xedJohnRobert: It seems I am!11:07
JohnRobertI killed my server last night11:07
JohnRobertthat's screwed.11:07
Flannelcool_nick: which ubuntu are you using?11:07
JohnRobertas it's 1000 miles away from me11:07
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xedJohnRobert: So are you telling me you can help me?11:07
Flannelcool_nick: Breezy/5.10 or Dapper/6.06?11:07
JohnRobertdon't ask for help, just ask your queston11:08
JohnRobertquestion11:08
cool_nickFlannel: Dapper Drake11:08
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iiiearsxed - What i am really saying is that i don't know what the info you gave me means. - someone else does.11:08
zcat[1] weenies, I used Slack for years before I even HAD a graphical desktop!11:08
xediiiears: I think it means I'm screwed11:08
Badm4nis zebra is good for ubuntu breezy ?11:08
JohnRobertI used punch card servers once11:08
JohnRobertnah, not really11:08
JohnRobert:p11:08
Flannelcool_nick: oh, sorry.  azureus IS in the repositories.  You're using apt?  did you follow the howto on adding repositories?  including the "sudo apt-get update" afterwards?11:08
JohnRobertazureus is gross11:08
JohnRobert:p11:08
kevinzHello. it seems that ubuntu auto mark "My Document" in windows fat32 partition as read-only to my normal user under ubuntu. How can i change the permission?11:09
xedShould I change "VTAllocation=true" to false?11:09
aroonican i install yahoo messenger for ubuntu dapper, and if so, how?11:09
JohnRobertit'd be good if it wasn't programmed in java11:09
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buntameh..11:09
CarinArrxed, have you checked your gdm.conf like it suggests?11:09
buntaAny ideas folks?11:09
fyrestrtrarooni: use gaim11:09
buntaThe plugin is loaded fine11:09
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buntabut no video is shown11:09
xedCarinArr: See, I am IN the gdm file but don't know what to check for11:09
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gyaresuxed, you could also try the current version of ubuntu instead of hoary.11:09
Flannelarooni: you're probably better off finding native linux alternatives that can connect/chat on the yahoo network11:10
bobbywkevinz: you need to change the umask in /etc/fstab of the partition11:10
iiiearsxed - the "GDM" file? xorg.conf ??11:10
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CarinArrxed, check StandardXServer11:10
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xediiiears: No, I don't know where to look in gdm.conf11:10
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kevinzbobbyw: but why can i write to other folders in that partition except "My Document"11:10
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sun_is VLAN can stream DVB-IPI servies ?11:10
CarinArrand check that the executable it says to use exists11:10
bobbywoh11:10
xedgyaresu: can you link me to the lates version installation download?11:11
ardchoillearooni: I have seen some folks in this channel saying they use gaim as their yahoo messenger.11:11
xedgyaresu: I'm sure I downloaded the right one, but it turned out to be a live cd11:11
bobbywdo you have permissions to?11:11
bobbywright click it, goto properties11:11
tvalladonok, I am going nuts.. I have 2 HP machines, same makes and models, one with 512 meg memory, one with 2 gig.. both report working 3d acceleration and report no problems in several 3d test apps, but as soon as I launch a 3d game the computer locks up with a switching screen...11:12
gyaresuxed, what arch what power etc?11:12
Bergcubearooni~  I use Gaim for my Yahoo messenger account.  I am very satisfied with it.11:12
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CarinArrtvalladon, on both machines or just the one?11:12
bobbywtvalladon: what video card/onboard video?11:12
tvalladonboth11:12
xedgyaresu: what do you mean what arch what power? I don't quite understand what you're asking..11:12
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Flanneltvalladon: just because you have the same model, doesn't mean they're identical though.  trust me ;)11:12
tvalladonone is running the 915resolution package...11:12
iiiearsxed - i am lost again. where is the gdm.conf?11:13
tvalladonwhich is the only reason I mention it.11:13
cool_nickFlannel: its workin now, thanks. . .11:13
xediiiears: it is at /etc/gdm/gdm.conf11:13
CarinArrtvalladon, what video card?11:13
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xedgyaresu: I downloaded from http://www.ubuntu.com/download11:13
gyaresuxed, amd64 intel 32bit chip. an old pentium 1 with 32MB RAM?11:13
iiiearsxed - Ah.. - cool going to take a look at mine.11:13
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tvalladonlooking in the device manager11:14
xedwhy is my text all typing from the right now?! CURSE YOU mIRC!11:14
buntalol11:14
buntaxed, ur keyboard layout11:14
tripppyi have lost a great script that mounted all HDD's and set them up for Read/write access via samba.... can anyone help?11:14
xedgyaresu: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.0611:15
gyaresuxed, what CPU do you have?11:15
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A[D] minS^Work!amsn-dev11:16
ubotuI know nothing about amsn-dev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:16
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A[D] minS^Work!xchat-dev11:16
xedgyaresu: AMD Athlon 550MHz, 128MB SDRAM (Probably PC100 or something), and I think some really old ATI graphics card (4 or 2 MB)...and a 10GB harddrive11:16
ubotuI know nothing about xchat-dev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:16
tvalladon82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics, Intel11:16
A[D] minS^Workok11:16
cool_nickare there any editors from which i can view .chm files?11:16
gyaresuxed. right. so my advice would to be to get the server edition and install xcfe as your window manager.11:17
Flannelcool_nick: xchm11:17
gyaresuxed, http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso11:17
javiolocool_nick sudo apt-cache search chm11:17
xedgyaresu: that would be the one I got I believe11:17
gyaresuxed, and always check the md5sum11:17
kevinzhow to enable input method(scim) in kde applications, i am using ubuntu not kbuntu11:17
tvalladonThat help any?11:17
xedgyaresu: md5sum?!11:17
gyaresuxed, not if you're running hoary11:17
iiiearsgyaresu - sae advice11:17
CarinArrtvalladon, that might well be your problem.. have you checked that 1. that's good enough for the game and that 2. ubuntu has drivers for it?11:18
iiiears"sage" advice11:18
gyaresuxed, man md5sum11:18
gyaresuxed, http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS11:18
noctihello, i've been reading http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/05/06/update-or-install-applications-on-debianubuntu-without-an-internet-connection/, question is -- how do i update the repository on the non-connected box if the app i'm looking for is in another repository (like metaverse), thanks11:18
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xedhere we go11:18
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buntaCarinArr, it sure does :P11:18
gyaresuxed, you may have a corrupted download and that could even be the prob at the moment.11:18
xedgyaresu: Ah.. but it works fine...11:19
cool_nickFlannel: how do i encrypt my mails with pgp?11:19
A[D] minS^Workto compile xchat what i have to install first ?11:19
burnschmview11:19
xedI'm starting to believe that this "Ubuntu LTS" is actually just the live cd11:19
tvalladonCarinArr: even the smallest 3d games will cause it to lock up :( but screensavers work11:19
gyaresuxed, really. doesn't seem to.11:19
buntaLTS means long term support :P11:19
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buntaNot l33t tangy sauce11:19
bunta:)11:19
xedgyaresu: I'm telling you.. it works like a LIVE cd, nothing else.11:19
Flannelpgp? or gpg?11:19
Sebahi11:19
CarinArrtvalladon, sounds like a driver problem to me.. not sure how to install/trouble shoot intel video drivers tho i'm afraid;)11:19
gyaresunocti, you can just dump all the files in the local repository folder (from memory)11:19
tvalladonCarinArr: and in my X11 conf file I have         Identifier      "Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller"11:19
tvalladonCarinArr: so a perfect match there...11:20
bobbywhmm11:20
gyaresuxed, cool. so why are you trying to mess with gdm.conf and xorg.conf etc?11:20
Sebais there any way to manually add an interface to network-manager? in my laptop it only sees the wireless card but not the wired nic (even if it works ok)11:20
bobbywonboard intel chipset11:20
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A[D] minS^Workif someone loged to  pc by ssh11:20
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noctigyaresu, so i search/install for the app i want in the connected box, copy repository archives to non-connected box, and whala?11:21
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gyaresuSeba,  are you familiar with dmesg and lspci11:21
xedgyaresu: I don't know! I had the 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog CD which I used to INSTALL Ubuntu onto the desktop.. but it doesn't let me boot up 'x'...11:21
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A[D] minS^Workis there any program to  monitor him " means to see what he are doin rite now" ?11:21
xedgyaresu: 'x' doesn't work11:21
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kangacunthi11:21
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FlannelA[D] minS^Work: you don't need to compile xchat11:21
kangacuntanyone know how to get gcc working on ubuntu 5.10?11:21
Sebagyaresu: yes, do you want me to post the lspci line for the card?11:21
Flannelkangacunt: install build-essential11:21
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cotrolerproblem any help??????? EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?11:21
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selinuxiumHi all, anyone got any experience in X11 forwarding in SSH? I am trying to get putty to forward to a windoze machine...11:22
gyaresunocti, that should work but i havn't ubuntu'd for a while. just get a confirmation on that i'd say.11:22
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gyaresuxed, so get the version i linked to and install breezy :)11:22
CarinArrselinuxium, you have to have an xserver running in windows too11:22
kangacuntthanx :D11:22
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noctigyaresu, ok will test, thanks11:22
gyaresuSeba is it in "dmesg | grep -i eth"11:22
DeepsightHello, anybody programming with mysql++ in dapper?11:22
Flannelselinuxium: cygwin provides an X server for windows, I believe there are others11:22
tvalladonhmmm.. anyone else have any ideas? not like I am trying to play WoW or anything, even eggboo kills my machine :(11:23
gyaresuSeba, and it's in lspci?11:23
MintyHello11:23
gyaresuMinty, hi.11:23
xedgyaresu: you're suggesting I get http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso    that?11:23
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CarinArrtvalladon, for the sake of your sanity you might want to get a cheapo nvidia card or something11:23
Sebayes, it's in lspci and in dmesg11:23
kangacuntminty where u from11:23
CarinArryou can get them for virtually nothing11:23
cotrolerproblem any help??????? EE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA x Driver not found) how do i solve that pls?11:24
MintyI have a card reader, memory stick, compact falsh etc reader in my laptop, wht soft do I nee to run it11:24
selinuxiumCarinArr: Flannel: Cheers, I wil go find cygwin. cheers11:24
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A[D] minS^WorkFlannel, if someone loged to  pc by ssh ....is there any program to  monitor him " means to see what he are doin rite now" ?11:24
MintyFrom France, near Paris11:24
Sebai don't want to flood, there are like 8 lines in dmesg regarding eth011:24
gyaresuxed, yep. server edition. after you install then you can install a xfce: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu11:24
gyaresuSeba, pastebin.com11:24
tvalladonCarinArr: is there a way to make sure first that its not an issue with the base system?11:24
javiolo!paste > Seba11:24
gyaresuSeba, or seba.pastebin.com11:24
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Vrathaanyone else here use GDM and have LDAP as their user/group database?11:25
Badm4nhello11:25
CarinArrcotroler, er.. if you look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, where it lists your graphics card (will say Identifier "NVIDIA..." somewhat or other) what does it say after Driver?11:25
Vrathawhen i try to login via gdm, i keep getting "cannot set user group"11:25
xedhow long does it take to download 50MB going at 122KBps?11:25
FlannelA[D] minS^Work: not that I'm aware of.  Well, except just checking log files and stuff.  I suppose you could also use ps to see what is running11:25
Badm4nhow to put static IP on eth2 192.168.1.1 at /etc/network/interfaces11:25
Vrathaactually it says "cannot set your user group; you will not be able to log in."11:25
CarinArrtvalladon, there might well be, I don't think I could be of any help though unfortunately given I haven't a clue about intel cards11:26
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gyaresuMinty, I don't think compact flash worked last time i looked.11:26
ajmitchVratha: let me try & recall - I did have that error & found the fix11:26
gyaresuMinty, I may well be wrong though.11:26
Vrathaajmitch: sweet!11:26
xedoh, while I'm here11:26
CarinArrvratha, yes11:26
tvalladonFlannel: FreeBSD has a "watch" command that lets you snoop a tty, watch in linux is way different.. but does linux offer a like command?11:26
Flanneltvalladon: no idea.11:26
MintyIts really a sony memory stick that is not reconized11:26
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xedDoes anyone know of any decent application I get for xubuntu or ubuntu in general that'll let me load up an external harddrive without me having to type something into the terminal/CLI to mount the images?11:26
CarinArrvratha, as in i'm using gdm and ldap;)11:26
Vrathabtw, i am using NSS (nsswitch.conf) to get data from ldap with "passwd: ldap files" and "group: ldap files"11:26
xed...replace images with harddrive11:27
VrathaCarinArr: ah :)  get it to work, or did you have that problem for a while/11:27
CarinArri had about a gazillion problems11:27
CarinArrheh11:27
Vrathaheh11:27
xedanyone?11:27
gyaresuxed, automount will do it.11:27
Vrathasame here... getting DNS+LDAP+Kerberos setup was no easy task11:27
xedgyaresu: automo.. ubuntu automounts now?11:27
tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: just an idea, can you cat the tty? just pulling off of some old BSD tricks we used to use11:27
CarinArrhang on let me have a look at that machine11:27
xedgyaresu: or is that the name of the program?11:27
VrathaCarinArr: thanks :)11:27
gyaresuxed, just stick it in and it'll pop up.11:27
ajmitchVratha: you'll be happy to know that there's a SoC project to make all that a bit easier11:28
xedgyaresu: roger that11:28
xedgyaresu: thankss11:28
gyaresuxed, welcome11:28
xedman.. FIVE minutes till I have xubuntu11:28
Vrathaajmitch: yeah, that would be nice.. though i pretty much know how to do it now, heh11:28
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xedgyaresu: Just to make sure I got the right one... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Releases?action=show&redirect=XubuntuReleases   Is that the INSTALLATION CD for Xubuntu?11:28
Vrathai even got autofs working over ldap11:28
Vrathaand all services work except this damned gdm :(11:28
CarinArrvratha, I can log in in GDM without any problems, is that where you're having the problem or is it something else?11:28
VrathaCarinArr: just gdm.. ssh and login all work fine11:29
iiiearsxed - there are some bash scripts - let give you a link  http:\\seveas.ubuntulinux.nl\      automounter11:29
VrathaCarinArr: exact error: cannot set your user group; you will not be able to log in11:29
Flannelxed: as of dapper, the desktop iso is the installation iso.  The alternate ISO is also an installation iso.  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/  Those are downloads11:29
xediiiears: these.. scripts.. what will they do?11:29
ajmitchVratha: just starting up that machine now..11:29
A[D] minS^Worktvalladon,  ok11:29
A[D] minS^Workthx11:29
gyaresuxed, it's just a basic server install and then you chose to put in a WM and all the other software you need. so it's a lot smaller to start with and will be missing lots of programmes.11:30
Vrathaajmitch: :)11:30
tripppywhen i try and connect to my ubuntu box from windows. it asks for a user/pass.11:30
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iiiearsxed - did you need a HD mounted automatically without editing fstab and creating mount points?11:30
xedI noticed that if I have an older version of Ubuntu already installed..and I put in a new version ..the system loads up the newer version cd as a live cd and not an installation cd.. or did I just download the live cd?11:30
Flanneltripppy: that makes sense11:30
CarinArrvratha, weird.. been so long since i did this i can't remember what my problems were.. i just remember it being an absolute er.. unmentionable.. to set up11:30
Vrathain /var/log/auth.log, i keep getting "pam_unix) could ot identify user (from getpwnam(grimw))", which shouldn't matter, b/c i have "pam_unix.so" set as "sufficient" in my pam.d files11:30
Flannelxed: the liveCD for dapper IS the installation CD11:31
xediiiears: I already have the harddrive formatted, it has stuff on it.. it has 2 NTFS partitions on it.. will that cause a problem in Ubuntu?11:31
tripppywhats the user/pass? how do i set this up or turn it off all together?11:31
Vrathaand right after it i have "pam_krb5.so" set as "required"11:31
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pipemann#ubuntu-cz11:31
VrathaCarinArr: do you have "pam_krb5.so" first or not in your pam.d files?11:31
Badm4nwhere i can get respitory list from my ip at ubuntu website ? i want to put it on my source.list11:31
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kangacuntfuck you all motherfuckers AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA11:31
iiiearsxed - You will able to read and copy data from ntfs11:31
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xedFlannel: Then HOW do I get it to install damnit?11:31
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xediiiears: But not WRITE to it?11:31
Flannelxed: there's a "install" link on the desktop of the liveCD11:31
xedFlannel: when I boot it up you mean?11:32
Flannelxed: right.  Once the liveCD has booted11:32
iiiearsxed - I cheat.   save all  my stuff on the wife's computer over the lan11:32
tripppyiiiears: do you know of a script that automounts all vfat partitions on bootup?11:32
xedFlannel: it says "start installation or run ubuntu live" or whatever, i select that.. ubuntu starts up... whatever... what do I do then?11:32
CarinArrvratha, erm.. i don't think i was using kerber-whateveritsname11:32
ajmitchVratha: I knew I should have written this one down somewhere..11:32
gyaresuxed. you have a drive with stuff on it already?11:32
Flannelxed: er, do you have a DVD iso? or what?11:33
xedgyaresu: yeah...external11:33
iiiearstrippy - mounts all available partitions? - yers11:33
xedFlannel: CD ISO11:33
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Flannelxed: of dapper?11:33
xedFlannel: yes...11:33
VrathaCarinArr: oh, heh, right... do you have your system using pam_ldap or nsswitch.conf?11:33
Flannelxed: alright, yeah, if you start the liveCD, then once its started, you can install11:33
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ajmitchVratha: I had mine working with nsswitch.conf11:33
Vrathaajmitch: hehehe :)  i scanned google and couldn't find much11:33
CarinArrpam_ldap11:33
Vrathaajmitch: awesome11:33
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A[D] minS^Worktvalladon, how i can cat the tty? ?11:34
tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: there is a ttysnoop in the packages.. perhaps?11:34
tripppyiiiears: yeah so what is it called?11:34
gyaresuFlannel, xed has the server disc. then xfce11:34
xedFlannel: where is this installation ..option located?11:34
ronald_hey everyone11:34
Flannelxed: er, you have the server iso?11:34
CarinArrvratha, you said everything by gdm seems to work?11:35
A[D] minS^Worktvalladon, ttysnoop - TTY Snoop - allows you to spy on telnet+serial connections11:35
A[D] minS^Workis that will help ?11:35
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CarinArrvratha, but everything is in the same order in the pam.d files?11:35
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tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: not sure if that will.. I did a  cat /dev/pts/511:35
xedFlannel: http://www.ubuntu.com/download  You see the first "United States" link there? that's the one I clicked on11:35
VrathaCarinArr: yeah, all but gdm works11:35
tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: and... (wait, more)11:35
Flannelxed: right, and then there's a lot of options, which iso did you download?11:35
EnverexI seem to have lots of rubbish starting as services when I start my computer. Is there any way to prune all that?11:35
xedFlannel: Then I got here http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/11:35
VrathaCarinArr: and all of them use the same ordering by including /etc/pam.d/common-* files11:36
iiiearstrippy - scouring the net. - winmac_fstab.sh  seveas a moderator here wrote it11:36
xedThen I clicked on the PC  one11:36
xedIntelx8611:36
Flannelxed: theres still three versions, which one did you download?11:36
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Sebaok, great! www.pastebin.com/756231, that's the output of "dmesg | grep -i eth"11:36
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MikeyMike-Windowo11:36
xedFlannel: Desktop CD11:36
Flannelxed: server, desktop, alternate11:36
tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: I was able to see what was typped on the pts/5 tty... but commands stopped working on that terminal.. so they will know your watching11:36
xedFlannel: Desktop CD11:36
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gyaresuxed, are you kidding?11:36
Flannelxed: alright, then once you start the liveCD, there is a link on the desktop to install11:36
xedgyaresu: no, why would I kid?11:36
tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: let me play with ttypsnoop really quick11:36
Vrathait's just weird that gdm can't find "grimw" with "getpwnam"... i did "perl -ne 'print getpwnam("grimw");', and it printed all my info11:37
A[D] minS^Workok thx tvalladon11:37
A[D] minS^Workam playing too11:37
MikeyMike-Windowthey standard msg nickserv register pw works on freenode?11:37
A[D] minS^Work:D11:37
MikeyMike-Windowthe*11:37
xedFlannel: It's "configuring power management" at the moment...11:37
Sebait's strange, there's nothing about eth1 in dmesg, and that's the interface that works ok...11:37
MadpilotMikeyMike-Window, yes11:37
MikeyMike-Windowcool11:37
gyaresuxed, Flannel sigh. xed are you just asking questions without even reading the answers. i linked you to the server edition and then .... man just scroll up.11:37
Flannelxed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall  Follow that11:37
xedgyaresu: I am already downloading that...11:37
ajmitchVratha: is there anything else relevant in auth.log or syslog?11:38
gyaresuxed, and the desktop version is old and won't run an xserver for you right?11:38
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Vrathaajmitch: checking11:38
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xedgyaresu: The one I have currently installed.. which I got quite a while ago in themail (that version which is currently installed is v5.04)11:38
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CarinArrvratha, not sure if this is any help but my /etc/pam.d/gdm looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1885111:38
gyaresuxed, that has no xserver? right?11:39
Vrathaajmitch: no :-/  /var/log/syslog just says that nss_ldap reconnects to LDAP successfully11:39
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xedgyaresu: that's the one which doens't let me use x, yes.11:39
gyaresuxed, which is what you've been trying to troubleshoot. Now you want to reinstall. Right?11:39
Flannelxed: did you get that link?  Everything will start to look familiar as it boots, like the pictures on that page11:39
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VrathaCarinArr: mine looks just like that ;)11:40
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xedgyaresu: I just finished downloading xubuntu.. I'm going to just try and burn that and put it into the cd drive and hope that when I reboot that compputer.. the installation for xubuntu comes up and it removes everything else currently on that computer11:40
CarinArractually.. nss_ldap sounds familiar11:40
EnverexI seem to have lots of rubbish starting as services when I start my computer. Is there any way to prune all that? There are far too many things starting at boot.11:40
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ajmitchVratha: restarted gdm?11:40
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CarinArrlol.. everyone in my office has a different problem with their ldap11:40
Flannelxed: er, before we can actually help you do something, you have to know what it is you want to accomplish11:41
Vrathaajmitch: yeah, just upgraded it with "apt-get install gdm" and restarted11:41
Vrathai'm about to reboot the system to see if it changes anything11:41
xopherEnverex, try BUM (Boot Up Manager)11:41
CarinArreven tho we still reckon we have the same settings11:41
ajmitchVratha: might as well try that for now11:41
gyaresuFlannel, xed Fine. Just please try and give the full story to people who are trying to help you.11:41
Enverexxopher, I have but it doesn't seem to let me disable them. I tell it to, click apply, it refrshes but doesn't disable them11:41
deeprootI am trying to install libc-client2002edebian but it isn't there in source servers11:42
xopherWeird..11:42
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deeprootwhere else can I look for it?11:42
xedFlannel: Oh I know.. but see.. when I got here... I had one goal in mind, then someone suggest I get xubuntu and install THAT to the desktop since it's a very weak desktop.. so now I have xubuntu.. and I'm going to try that11:42
xedFlannel: I have given up on my previous goal...11:42
Vrathaajmitch: you know, i even put "pam_permit.so" everywhere to just let me login, and it still gives that error11:42
Flannelxed: right, but... aren't you currently installing ubuntu?11:42
tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: hehe, you can send messages to the pts.. echo GO AWAY BIZATCH > /dev/pts/N where N is there tty number in WHO :D11:42
deeprootI am using deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted11:42
Sebagyaresu: Could you see pastebin?11:42
xedFlannel: Currently burning the image to a CD11:42
Vrathait's as if it doesn't even know to use NSS11:42
Flannelxed: so, you're no longer booting the liveCD then?11:43
Vrathathough, this did work fine on debian-etch11:43
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sirexhello11:43
tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: but catting the pts will display what they are typing and locks their term so no commands after the first works11:43
xedFlannel: I am.. just to see if it will boot again, because just a second ago... it gave me the error that it couldn't start x for whatever reason, so I started in safe graphics mode...11:43
ajmitchVratha: interesting11:43
iiiearstrippy - Are you still there?   - don't have the link to seveas' site but i have saved  the script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1885311:43
vakoselhi all !11:43
Flanneldeeproot: the us archive might be down.  try removing the us, just archive.ubuntu.com11:44
gyaresuxed, Flannel someone? xed you are totally not going to get any help if you keep starting new threads with different people and all the while being totally oblivious to everything that's said to you.11:44
vakoselwhat is the apt-get command to install the kernel headers?11:44
tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: so cat a binary to their term and it will mess up the character setting on their terminal and they will need to reload11:44
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deeprootFlannel: rest other packages can be installed11:44
sirexmaybe someone knows name of a player that is writen on top of xmms and soon that player would be rewriten from scratch?11:45
Sebavakosel: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:45
vakoselthx seba !11:45
deeprootapt-get -s works with some other packages..11:45
xedgyaresu: I'm not being oblivious at all, I tried to do what everyone told me and it didn't work.. so now I'm doing what other people suggested I do, which is install Xubuntu.... is that wrong?11:45
Sebayou're welcome :)11:45
Vrathaajmitch: i wonder if it has to do with the fact that gdm isn't running as root and can't get to the data in /etc/krb5.keytab, b/c my ldap authorizes people via kerberos11:45
gyaresuSeba, no can you preface it with my name please?11:45
iiiearsseveas.ubuntulinux.nl/    << Seveas' site - massive server overload he shares his server with everyone11:45
deeprootFlannel: so it indicates that the us archive is up..11:45
Vrathaajmitch: i'll login as gdmgreeter and see if i can do "id grimw" or not11:45
ardchoillegyaresu: What is the psychocats page again?11:46
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Sebagyaresu: http://pastebin.com/75623111:46
ajmitchVratha: I doubt that's the case - I know that I had it working here with a default gdm setup :)11:46
deeprootAre these archives identical to those of deb?11:46
gyaresuardchoille, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu11:46
Flannelxed: no, it's just impossible for us to help you if we don't know where you 'are' in the process (or even if youre still doing the same thing).  Such as now you need to follow THESE screenshots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu11:46
ajmitchI just have to make sure I replicate that11:46
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Vrathaajmitch: well i'm jealous then ;)11:46
ardchoillegyaresu: Thank you :)11:46
xedFlannel: Ah, thanks for that link.11:47
Flanneldeeproot: you sure you have universe enabled?11:47
Vratharight now i'm awaiting a full dist-upgrade before proceeding though11:47
gyaresuxed, It was me that told you about xubuntu cause you have a low powered computer and .....stuff it. really.11:47
gyaresuSeba, checking now.11:48
vakoselanother question ! i hope not bothering but i am new to ubuntu ..11:48
vakoseli received the 5 cds from the site..11:48
EnverexDoes anyone know any way of disabling services other than with BUM?11:48
deeprootFlannel: nope, univer is not enabled, I am using main only11:48
tvalladonanyone help with a 3d issue on a HP DC5100 MT? intel 915 video card11:48
vakoselare all the same or what?11:48
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gyaresuEnverex, update-rc.d11:48
vakoseli mean the cds11:48
Flanneldeeproot: that's why.  that package is in universe11:48
xedFlannel: Just a quick question to make sure I'm understanding these instructions properly... I have to have Ubuntu already installed for me to use xUbuntu?11:49
gyaresuvakosel, it will say on the bottom of the cardboard.11:49
Flannelxed: no.  You're reinstalling.  However, the Dapper Desktop ISO's installation method is a liveCD, so you have to run the liveCD to install.11:49
deeproothmm.. what do I have to do after I uncomment universe so that apt-get takes note of new archives?11:49
Enverexgyaresu, which is where?11:49
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vakoselwhich cardboard?11:49
Flanneldeeproot: sudo apt-get update11:49
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acusterhey all11:50
deeprootFlannel: righto, Thanx.11:50
ardchoillegyaresu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php  is quite educational. I'm glad the owner posted all that info :)11:50
gyaresuxed Flannel This is the last time I'm posting it READ MY PREVIOUS POSTS!!!: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu11:50
acusterhow can i figure out how to write accents with my american thinkpad keyboard?11:50
xedFlannel: Okay, I have it running now... so I should install it, THEN put in the Xubuntu CD.. after it's done installing?11:50
acusterI'd like to write french and catalan11:50
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xedgyaresu: Sorry.11:50
ic56deeproot: apt-get isn't a daemon.  Hence you need to nothing for it to notice the change to its config file11:50
Flannelxed: no.  You can't install it without the CD.11:50
kangacunthey how do i install sdl_net?11:50
A[D] minS^Worktvalladon, ok so what do u think i can do to see what he r doin @ my PC :D11:50
Flannelxed: er, do you have the server, or desktop iso?11:51
kangacunti tried install sdl_net but it didnt work11:51
kangacunt??11:51
xedFlannel: Desktop ISO.11:51
Flannelxed: right, insert the CD, let it boot, then follow those pictures from the wiki11:51
acusterI've been using the gnu for a decade now. Had it figured out in Mandrake 10.2 but never in ubuntu11:51
acusters/it/writing accents11:51
[META] what is the dpkg command that repairs the dependent problems?11:51
tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: other then catting the pts I dont know.. I guess BSD is just in general less trusting.. I would shutdown the ssh daemon and boot them off the system...11:51
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acusterany fun ideas?11:51
xedFlannel: Those pictures from wiki not loading11:52
kangacuntyo yo11:52
gyaresuvakosel, the ubuntu cd's didn't come in cardboard sleeves?11:52
kangacuntanyone here that can help me?11:52
[META] i have screved up my dependencies11:52
kangacunthow do i install sdlnet11:52
vakoselyeap11:52
kangacunt??11:52
gyaresuSeba, pastbin isn't loading. odd. http://pastebin.com/756231 work for you?11:52
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gyaresuvakosel, yep they did or yep they didn't?11:53
tvalladonA[D] minS^Work: then security audit your machine and change all your password and loging and stuff11:53
kangacunthow do i install sdl net?11:53
vakoselthey did !11:53
Sebagyaresu: yes, but it's very very slow :(11:53
vakoseland actually very  nice11:53
vakoselso ?11:53
xedFlannel: If I install the desktop CD and not the server CD, can I still install Xubuntu?11:53
Sebagyaresu: I can't understand why I see the eth0 interface in dmesg while eth1 is not listed there but works ok11:53
gyaresuHobbsee, kangacunt thinks screaming obcenities is ok and then also wants help. Does that seem fair?11:53
Flannelxed: the desktop IS the xubuntu desktop CD, right?11:53
xedBecause.. according to these instructions, I'm suppose to type in 'server' somewhere.. but I haven't really had the option to do so anywhere...11:54
Mintyanyone know how to mount / see the 4in 1 card reader that is integrated in my laptop11:54
Sebagyaresu: maybe i need to modify another file, not just interfaces...11:54
deeprootic56: will it work without `apt-get update` then?11:54
xedFlannel:... err.. no, It's just the Ubuntu CD, I thought I had to install Ubuntu first...11:54
vakoseli cant see any numbers like 1, 2, 3,4..11:54
xedFlannel: I think you just cleared things up a bit...11:54
vakoseli think these are 5 live cds11:54
gyaresuSeba, havn't got the link yet but the wireless is definitely eth1?11:54
Flannelxed: no, you dont.  But, you can install ubuntu, and then change to xubuntu.  If you have the server CD, you can also install xubuntu afterwards11:54
Hobbseekangacunt: behave, or go away.11:54
chemajaHobbsee: how do you behave with a nickname like *that*?11:55
chemaja:D11:55
vakosellol maybe i am stupid!11:55
vakosellol11:55
xedFlannel: I'm going to boot from the Xubuntu CD and see if that's what the instructions are talking about when they say I have to type in 'server' somewhere11:55
Sebavakosel: I think you can get only livecd's (with the new graphical installator) from canonical11:55
Flannelxed: er, do you have the Xubuntu desktop CD, or the server CD?11:55
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xedFlannel: I have the UBuntu Desktop CD, and I also have the XUbuntu desktop CD11:55
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gyaresuFlannel, xed has http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso11:56
ic56deeproot apt-get update will obtain update your packages.  That guy was asking how to tell apt-get that its config file had been updated.  The latter needs no action because apt-get reads its config file afresh each time it's invoked11:56
xedgyaresu: I also have the xubuntu CD...11:56
EnverexI seem to have lots of rubbish starting as services when I start my computer. Is there any way to prune all that? There are far too many things starting at boot and BUM doesn't seem to disable them when I tell it to (and update-rc.d isn't much use as I can't really see what's going on with it)11:56
Hobbseechemaja: well, yeah11:56
gyaresuxed, k.11:56
bobbywget11:56
bobbywerr11:56
bobbywhey11:56
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bobbywcan someone help me with keyboard shortcuts11:56
bobbywI want them to work for xmms11:56
xedI am now booting from the xubuntu cd...11:57
xedbecause that's probably the easiest way to get xubuntu onto this machine..11:57
xedand quite possibly the most logical way11:57
Flannelxed: alright, put in the Xubuntu DEsktop CD, there won't be a server option.  You don't need it.  It'll boot up, to a graphical environment, where there will be a button on the desktop that says "install" hit that, and follow the onscreen prompts11:57
deeprootic56: thats what I wanted to know.. it reads config file upon every new invocation..11:57
deeprootthanks11:57
xedFlannel: Doing so now.. ..the booting that is...11:57
ic56deeproot: correct.11:57
kouwestill no further dan 41% xed?11:57
vakoselthx for your help ! bye11:57
xedSss.. I have to use safe graphic mode to boot =(11:58
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kouwethen u need the DVD11:58
Flannelxed: er, you shouldnt.  Are you booting from the CD? or booting from your harddrive?11:58
kouweowno11:58
xedFlannel: cd..11:58
bobbywxed: me too11:59
bobbywsafe graphic mode roxors!11:59
xedFlannel: But I think it might be due to just having a shitty video card...11:59
bobbywati's require them11:59
xedwell I guess that's probably it then11:59
bobbywotherwise you are forced into 640x480 and can't go through the installation11:59
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xedbobbyw: x won't even start with mine!11:59
bezibaerchenis it ok to delete /var/cache/apt/archives/?12:00
Subhumanbezibaerchen, dont clear apt yourself, run "sudo apt-get clean"12:00
bezibaerchenSubhuman: ok12:00
bobbywew12:00
Flannelxed: the "install" button on the desktop12:00
xedFlannel: what about it...?12:00
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cotrolerEE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) ANY HELP PLS?????????12:01
cotrolerEE: Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) ANY HELP PLS?????????12:01
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bobbywcotroler: nvidia.com, download the drivers12:01
Flannelxed: sorry, was scrolled, wrong question, ignore it ;)12:01
bezibaerchenk, that made nearly 300mb more on /12:01
bezibaerchen:-)12:01
xedheh.. funny green and blue verticle lines splash by on the screen  when I boot in safe graphic mode...12:01
ic56:query #vim12:01
xednvidia has drivers for ubuntu?12:02
ic56manveru: :%d12:02
XxXBrAnDoNXxXWhat command do you type to make a file in the terminal?12:02
CarinArrxed, of course..12:02
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ic56(oops)12:02
CarinArr;)12:02
xedCarinArr: That is NEWS to me..12:02
SubhumanXxXBrAnDoNXxX, touch filename to make a blank file12:02
xedYou're telling me that nVidia is actually supporting Ubuntu?12:02
SubhumanXxXBrAnDoNXxX, "touch filename" ,12:03
Subhumanxed, NV has always had good linux support.12:03
Louis_Kahelcotroler: have you installed nvidia rivers ?12:03
Subhuman!nvidia12:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:03
CarinArrwell "supporting" can mean many things.. but yes, they have linux drivers that work in ubuntu12:03
iGotNoTimeCan anyone point me in the right direction? I am trying to get Amarok to see my Sansa Mp3 player. I read something about XFM working good is that software that I need in addition to using Amarok?12:03
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XxXBrAnDoNXxXSubhuman thanx! :)12:03
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Louis_Kahelcotroler: if yes : you must activate them12:03
MintyI installed kubuntu but dont like it how do I inistall it and the kubuntu programs with it ??12:03
chemajaMinty: sounds like you already have?12:04
iGotNoTimeamarok says it can't find it but the player is already mounted. :(12:04
xedI think I just broke my monitor.. dang12:04
chemajaMinty: btw. i know what you meant. i'm in the exact same position right now :$ kubuntu has been running for like 24h and it's already making me sick12:04
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truzakMinty: you mean 'installed kubuntu over ubuntu' ?12:05
Mintysorry should have read UNinstall it12:05
chemajapoor kde folk, make a great desktop then get sh** on by just about everyone12:05
XxXBrAnDoNXxXSubhuman: Is there a command for making folders too?12:05
MintyI like my gnome12:05
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cotrolerLouis_Kahel: i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:05
FlannelMinty: adept is KDEs package manager12:05
SubhumanXxXBrAnDoNXxX, of course "mkdir foldername"12:05
Shinjanhi12:05
iGotNoTimeme too minty :)12:05
xedthe resolution on the screen is so small, i can't even see the 'next' button during the installation12:05
xedThis is going to be complicated12:06
XxXBrAnDoNXxXSubhuman: thanx again! :)12:06
SubhumanXxXBrAnDoNXxX, the terminal is very powerful, if you need to do anything you can prob do it on the terminal12:06
CanadaGrade-EhFKHmmm12:06
chemajaMinty: i could never figure out how to fully uninstall a highlevel package and its deps on a debian based system -- but i think there's "cruft management" tools, kinda like Arch Linux's `pacman -Rs' command12:06
CarinArrcotroler, you have to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as well.. it sounds as tho you already added Load "glx", but you also have to change the line where it says Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia"12:06
CanadaGrade-EhFKDownloading and installing flash for FireFox?12:06
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Flannelchemaja: deborphan will do that, aptitude also has it somewhat built in12:07
chemajaFlannel: yea, those.12:07
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iGotNoTimeCanadaGrade-EhFK: it can happen ;)12:07
kangacuntHELLO CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME!! im trying to install libsdl-net1.2 but its saying theres no such package12:07
chemajaFlannel: except aptitude's is non-orthogonal AFAIK (ie. you need to have used aptitude to install it if you want the "automatic" mark against those packages)12:07
iGotNoTimeCanadaGrade-EhFK:  Take a look at the help :) >> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW12:08
iGotNoTimepretty simple just a few steps12:08
Louis_Kahelcotroler:to install it :12:08
chemajaFlannel: non-orthogonal like nautilus' Emblems bullsh** feature12:08
Flannelchemaja: right.  but, deborphan (or, debfoster, I can never remember which one is recommended) don't need to be pandered to12:08
Mintycant I just do a uninstall apt get kubuntu or something like that, sorry still a newbie12:08
gyaresu_kangacunt, No because you are a rude idiot.12:08
Louis_Kahelsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:08
Louis_KahelAND, after, to activate it :12:08
Louis_Kahelsudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:08
chemajaFlannel: AFAIK, yes true.12:08
Madpilotkangacunt, want to change your nick, please?12:08
chemajaseriously, what's the point of nautilus Emblems if only nautilus recognises them, ie. they're not in the inode?12:09
Subhumankangacunt, whats the actual packahe name12:09
chemajayou can't even search on 'em from WITHIN gnome, AFAIK.12:09
Subhumanchemaja, just so you can visually see whats in a folder quickly.12:09
CarinArrthere is a package called "libsdl-net1.2"12:09
gyaresu_Madpilot, He's been asked and he's also gone a swearing rampage. I won't help him and he should be kicked.12:09
Flannelchemaja: I think the idea is that nautilus is the only thing you'll be using, so why does it matter?12:09
CarinArrkangacunt, how are you trying to install it?12:09
frogzookangacunt: have you read the ubuntu rules of conduct ie ROC ?12:09
Louis_Kahelkangacunt:if you use apt-get or synaptic, the right name of the package is : libsdl1.2debian12:10
chemajaFlannel: so why can't i search for "all files with emblem X" in nautilus12:10
gyaresu_kick kangacunt12:10
Madpilotkangacunt, last warning: change the nick, or you'll be removed...12:10
gyaresu_MOD!12:10
Flannelchemaja: I have no idea.  I don't use a GUI.12:10
CanadaGrade-EhFKYea, I was just looking at the help file as I asked12:10
chemajasorry i'm being inflammatory aren't i? :D i'm just shitty cause i haven't found the Perfect Linux Desktop12:10
frogzooMadpilot: either kangacunt changes his nick, or boot him, svp12:10
chemaja:D12:10
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CanadaGrade-EhFKI always read the manual, but some crap just leads me on such a tedious search that I ask at the same time anywa12:10
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frogzookanga: much obliged, thx12:10
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CanadaGrade-EhFKI gave up on help files a while ago. I feel lazy saying that, but it's so annoying some times12:10
iGotNoTime:)12:10
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iGotNoTimeusually yes :)12:11
Badm4nwhere i can get respitory list from my ip at ubuntu website ? i want to put it on my source.list12:11
NgCanadaGrade-EhFK: man pages are always your friend12:11
CanadaGrade-EhFKman?12:11
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CanadaGrade-EhFKas in manual? lol12:11
Madpilothappyman, thanks, you might find you get better help here when your nick isn't crude...12:11
MatthiasKhallo12:11
NgCanadaGrade-EhFK: e.g. "man ls" in a terminal12:11
CanadaGrade-EhFK... ok. brb lol12:11
iGotNoTimemanuals are great if you have the time :)12:11
chemajaFlannel: besides bash/ls/mv/cp/find et al, how do you manage files? zsh? mc?12:11
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CanadaGrade-EhFKyeaaaaaa.....12:12
CanadaGrade-EhFKthat man ls just confused me12:12
CanadaGrade-EhFKlol12:12
Flannelchemaja: just bash.12:12
FlannelCanadaGrade-EhFK: try reading it next time.  mhmm.12:12
CanadaGrade-EhFKMeh, I'll figure it all out tomorrow :) I'll be willing to read the help a bit more thoroughly tomorrow12:12
xedOh man.. I want to just set this thing to go and install and go to sleep12:12
CanadaGrade-EhFKUmm, I did read it. I was just confusing12:12
chemajaFlannel: in it's default config, or with funky aliases/functions etc.?12:12
chemajaFlannel: i'm curious because at work all i have is bash...12:12
aroonihow can i list all processes and list them by which one is using the most resources12:13
CanadaGrade-EhFKRight now I'm going to bed though12:13
CanadaGrade-EhFK3 am makes me not want to read. Thanks for the help today guys12:13
CanadaGrade-EhFKGood night12:13
chemajaFlannel: actually all i have is "bash|ksh"12:13
xedalright, time for some sleep12:13
iGotNoTimecan anyone show me a lilnk on setting up an mp3 player for amarok please?12:13
Ngarooni: top shows you an updating list of processes and you can sort it by different things12:13
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Ng!restrictedformats > iGotNoTime12:13
Flannelchemaja: yeah, just normal bash12:13
frogzoo!amarok > iGotNoTime12:13
chemajaFlannel: cool, thanks.12:13
xedFlannel, gyaresu, bobbyw, iiieye, whe..whoever else helped, thanks a lot.  I appreciate everyone's help in here..12:13
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gyaresu_xed, nigh nigh12:14
xedI'm goign to get some sleep, and probably be back in a few hours... I hate myself.12:14
CanadaGE|sleepYea xed, these guys are great12:14
CanadaGE|sleepall volunteer too lol12:14
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xedCanadaGE|sleep: I know, this place is pretty intense.12:14
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yomaracandaluza12:14
ravennow to install kubuntu desktop12:14
CanadaGE|sleepI've slept like 20 hours since firday12:14
xedWHY is the installation thing stuck at 0%!?12:14
CanadaGE|sleepsee you in 12 hours lol12:14
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xedCanadaGE|sleep: most probably12:14
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happymanhey12:15
xedTHERE we are...12:15
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xedI think it's finally doing something...12:15
iGotNoTimeNeither of those links have any information on setting up an mp3 player!12:15
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iGotNoTimethey have basic info on amarock as a media player not anything about a portable mp3 player or configuring amarock to transfer files to one12:16
iGotNoTimeamarok sorry12:16
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Bassettswhat is the best way to repartition so i can install windows, and how do i stop windows messing grub up?12:16
FlannelBassetts: You don't stop it from messing grub up, you reinstall grub afterwards.12:18
bimberiBassetts: keep the first partition (hda1) for windows12:18
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FlannelBassetts: and, obviously, repartition in linux, give windows empty space to shoot for, don't expect it to be able to repartition12:18
Bassettsbimberi: too late, i have ubuntu but need to install win for games12:18
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frogzooiGotNoTime: there used to be a page in the wiki for amarok, can't find it atm though12:19
BassettsFlannel: planned on that ;-) how do i re install grub?12:19
bimberiBassetts: i just knew you were going to say that ;p12:19
fyrestrtr!grub12:19
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:19
FlannelBassetts: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:19
CarinArrheh12:19
Bassettsthanks12:19
iGotNoTimejust found out on a forum that I need to update amarok to 4.blah12:19
SubhumanBassetts, "sudo grub-install"12:19
iGotNoTimefrogzoo: thank you though12:19
iGotNoTime1.412:19
frogzoolaunchpad & forums are down12:20
Flannelyeah, wiki is dead.12:20
Bassettsbimberi: well I dont really want win, but for games i got to have it really, i might just backup all my data and reinstall linux and win12:20
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`Evil`Hit3k, Can someone help with some questions about installing xp under qemu? Can I later just delete the image file to remove XP?12:20
Flannelor, dying.12:20
frogzooFlannel: long live wiki12:20
Flannelfrogzoo: I can't get it to load though ;)12:20
`Evil`Hit3k, sorry, autocomplete :)12:20
Vrathauh, ok?  gdm just started working12:20
Vrathaand i didn't change anything12:21
CarinArrsomehow that rings a bell..12:21
Enverex`Evil`, Yeah12:21
VrathaCarinArr: heh12:21
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CarinArri still can't get sudo to work properly12:21
`Evil`Enverex, Thanks, and when I'm installing xp it says to format the image file, so doesnt matter if I choose NTFS or FAT right?12:21
FlannelCarinArr: hmm?12:21
CarinArrhave to swap to local user then sudo12:22
Enverex`Evil`, Choose NTFS anyway12:22
CarinArrbut i got fed up with trying to fix it;)12:22
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`Evil`Enverex, Thanks :)12:22
CarinArrflannel, heh when logged in with ldap;)12:22
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FlannelCarinArr: ah12:22
frogzooiGotNoTime: have you installed w32codecs ?12:22
CarinArrheh, else i'd be worried;)12:23
iGotNoTimefrogzoo: don't think so, what are they?12:23
g0stAnyone have an EFS?12:23
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Vrathaactually, i wonder if it has to do with the fact that i am using "nscd" now12:23
frogzooiGotNoTime: codec for mp3, amongst other, so install that for starters12:23
iGotNoTimefrogzoo: yes then I have that12:23
iGotNoTimeplays fine anyway12:24
iGotNoTimeHow do I find what the apt-get command (or name) is for the newest version of amarok?12:24
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CarinArrvratha, i just got to the point where almost everything works as expected, and i don't dare touch it in case i break it again;)12:24
iGotNoTimeor any software for that matter?12:24
ardchoilleiGotNoTime: apt-cache-search packagename12:24
iGotNoTimeok :) Thanks12:24
ardchoilleiGotNoTime: apt-cache search packagename12:24
iGotNoTimenever knew that now I learned12:24
frogzoo!codecs12:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:24
ardchoillesorry, too many dashes12:24
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iGotNoTimegot it ;)12:25
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VrathaCarinArr: heh, well, i'm not that afraid, i just still can't figure out why shit wasn't working in the first palce12:25
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Vrathaand it can't be "nscd", b/c i just disabled it and removed it's caches12:26
Vrathaso there is no way nscd could be using it12:26
Vrathai mean that gdm could be using it12:26
frogzooiGotNoTime: now install libxine-extracodecs & restart amarok - also, go into settings & select xine as engine12:26
CarinArrvratha, i normally don't have a problem figuring things out, but the ldap stuff just beats me;)12:26
ic56iGotNoTime: beware: apt-cache sometimes produces no output when the packagename you provide exactly matches an existing package name.  Not sure why...  apt-cache show packagename will display info on a particular package name and works around the problemn in apt-cache search12:26
iGotNoTimefrogzoo I messed up my sound doing that yesterday, but did that about 16 hours ago12:27
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iGotNoTimeic56 does not show what version is in the cache under amarok either :(12:27
abhinaywhen i logging in by entering username & password , it is comming back to display manger , wot went wrong ? & logging in as root perfectly ...12:27
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VrathaCarinArr: heh.. ldap gets pretty easy; just think of it as a hierarchical directory and you're good12:27
VrathaCarinArr: don't think of it as a real DB... i mean this thing has a LOT of redundancy info in it12:27
bobbywisn't there an easier way to unpack a tar.gz file than the whole extracting in archive manager crap?12:28
jpghi all12:28
ic56iGotNoTime: yes, apt-cache search is meant to help you locate a relevant package by searching by some keyword.  Hence the output is terse.  apt-cache show will give you more details, including version numbers12:28
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Flannelshowpkg is another option, which shows different information than show12:28
CyDriveHow do i get the latest version of java?12:28
Louis_KahelCyDrive : @ sun's12:29
jpgwww.java.sun.com12:29
frogzoo!java12:29
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:29
Vrathahmmm, perhaps it WAS nscd helping me out, b/c now i can't login again12:29
gyaresubobbyw, tar zxvf thing.tar.gz12:29
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frogzooCyDrive: ^^^ should be recent enough for most purposes12:29
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frogzooiGotNoTime: -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats12:30
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iGotNoTimeI have been there far too much the past 48 hours12:30
bobbywwhat is the zxvf for?12:30
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iGotNoTimenot the info I am looking for but thanks :)12:30
frogzooiGotNoTime: you on dapper?12:30
iGotNoTimeyes12:30
ardchoillewhat is nubuntu?12:30
bobbywfor nubs.12:30
gyaresubobbyw, preface statements directied to individuals with their name or some of us won't see it.12:30
Fucty_network ubuntu12:31
gyaresubobbyw, man tar12:31
Subhumanardchoille, itz a ubuntu live CD with network security tools on it.12:31
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ardchoilleAhh, thank you12:31
cotroleri opened xorg.conf and it ws empty in recovery mode.....any help pls??12:31
bobbywgyaresu: okay, I understand tar, why all the zxvf12:31
bobbywgyaresu: why not just tar this.tar.gz12:31
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ic56$u2: most likely you changed an important config file, like ~/.gnomerc so that it now causes you to exit as the first action taken upon login.  Try logging in from the consle to investigate. (alt-shift-F1 to get to the 1st console.  the GUI is on F7)12:31
rubikcubehi!12:31
ic56abhinay: most likely you changed an important config file, like ~/.gnomerc so that it now causes you to exit as the first action taken upon login.  Try logging in from the consle to investigate. (alt-shift-F1 to get to the 1st console.  the GUI is on F7)12:31
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gyaresubobbyw, read the fantastically documented manual. "man tar"12:32
fyrestrtrbobbyw: x = extract z = gunzip v = verbose f = file12:32
Vrathait's getting to be damned annoying12:32
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iGotNoTimeFlannel: how do I use the showpackage command?12:32
FlanneliGotNoTime: apt-cache showpkg [package] 12:33
iGotNoTimethanks :)12:33
Vrathameh, whatever, i just have to use "nscd" and i'm golden12:33
frogzooiGotNoTime: dpkg -l gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs w32codecs amarok12:33
Vrathastupid damned gdm12:33
iGotNoTimeyou guys are great!12:33
rubikcubeanyone here who knows why the LaTeX documentation is in big parts in pdf format instead of dvi?  In most other distros this is not the case12:33
iGotNoTimefrogzoo: did that yesterday too12:33
bobbywfyrestrtr: thank you12:33
frogzooiGotNoTime: what does that command give you?12:33
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gyaresubobbyw, and the programme "file" will tell you what a file 'actually' is. not like windows where the characters after the dots mean something.12:34
frogzooiGotNoTime: pastebin might be best12:34
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iGotNoTimefrogzoo: it installed the gstreamer engine12:34
frogzooiGotNoTime: what does that command give you? - pastbin please12:34
iGotNoTimeone moment12:34
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iGotNoTimefrogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1885412:36
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bobbywgyaresu: I'm still confused by the whole things after dots don't mean anything12:37
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george_looneyhey there people, how to I override ".xsession" with the commandline for "startx"?12:38
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gyaresubobbyw, try going into your home directory and doing the command 'file blah' where blah is some file.12:38
cotroler!xorg12:38
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:38
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bobbywhmm12:39
bobbywstrangely amusing12:39
bobbywwhat's a symbolic link?12:39
bobbywa fancy name for a link in windows?12:39
Flannelit's like a shortcut.  only better.12:39
ajmitchVratha: let me guess, gdm decided to start working after it was restarted fully?12:39
gyaresubobbyw, now try doing it on a bunch of different files. linux doesn't care what the file is called. ie thing.tar.gz then rename to thing.wooble would not change the file.12:39
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ic56george_looney: I don't think you can override .xsession from the startx commandline.  You'll have to rename the file before invoking startx12:39
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Flannelbobbyw: it's an alias of the file, essentially.12:40
Vrathaajmitch: no, gdm started to work after i decided to install 'nscd', the name service cache daemon12:40
iGotNoTimefrogzoo: here's the thing. I am not at all concerned with codecs because it works for my mp3's and that is all I need amarok for. I use VLC for video. However the only reason I am in the IRC now is because Amarok is not seeing my Sansa MP3 player. I am now running Amarok v. 1.39 and need to upgrade to 1.41 for it to work with my Sansa. That is why I am here, trying to learn how to update...12:40
ajmitchVratha: interesting12:40
iGotNoTime...software not really caring about codecs :(12:40
fyrestrtrbobbyw: you seriously need to read a beginner's guide to linux.12:40
Vrathaajmitch: though, on debian it worked fine without, but whatever12:40
bobbywhaha12:40
Vrathai still can't determine the exact reason, but this seems to fix it12:40
bobbywyeah, well I'm more of a hands on kind of guy12:40
SubhumaniGotNoTime, go to the amaraok website, and compile it from source.12:40
george_looneyic56: I want to execute "startfluxbox" sometimes without editing ".xsession"12:40
fyrestrtrbobbyw: well get your hands on a book then.12:40
SubhumaniGotNoTime, look at !compile and !checkinstall12:40
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gyaresubobbyw, a symbolic link is handy to point to a place. i.e. put a link to /mnt/thing/stuff/thing/blah in your home directory that stops you from having to type the whole path out.12:41
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iGotNoTimeok12:41
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ajmitchVratha: however I know it's not nscd that fixed it, since I didn't install nscd, but gdm mysteriously got fixed :)12:41
bobbywI mean, in the day I've been using linux I installed all my drivers, configured my desktop and all my programs, learned how to install programs, ./configure/make/make install, blah blah12:41
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fyrestrtrgeorge_looney: create a session for it, stick in /usr/share/xsessions/12:41
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Subhumanbobbyw, you know how apt-get works yes?12:41
bobbywoh, I see12:41
timmowhi can anyone explain why chown is not working on an ext3 partition12:41
bobbywthat's...smart12:41
george_looneyfyrestrtr: then how do I select it after that?12:41
bobbywSubhuman: yep12:42
bobbywSubhuman: more or less12:42
george_looneyI have "exec startxfce4" in .xsession now12:42
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fyrestrtrgeorge_looney: from the sessions menu in gdm/kdm/xdm  or whatever.12:42
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gyaresubobbyw, man is your friend. more than google really. e.g. 'man ln'12:42
george_looneyfyrestrtr: ok, this might sound weird - my startx respects .xsession.....12:42
bobbywI've only been running linux a day and I already have a hard on for it :)12:42
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fyrestrtrgeorge_looney: why are you using startx?12:43
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fyrestrtrbobbyw: its really that good, isn't it :)12:43
george_looneyfyrestrtr: I don't really run gdm all the time, I use startx to fire up X!12:43
gyaresubobbyw, remember that it's still a stupid computer.12:43
bobbywgyaresu: I learned that, but some really basic commands arn't in man12:43
ic56george_looney: I'm not familiar with startfluxbox.  Assuming it has the same limitation as startx, I recommend writing yourself a tiny script that renames ~/.xsession, invokes startfluxbox in the background, waits a second or two, and renames .xsession back to its original filename12:43
`Evil`enverex, I'm actually getting a kick out of watching XP install in Linux    LOL   Geek XD12:43
Flannelbobbyw: for some command line stuff, and other mechaics, http://www.linux.org/lessons/  the beginners one.  You can skip a bit of it (it's 'for' debian, but its essentially the same, skip over the installation, etc)12:43
george_looneyic56: good idea, but,, ugly hack12:43
gyaresubobbyw, like?12:43
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bobbywgyaresu: I can't remember now, but I've typed a few commands in before and I guess I typed the wrong thing because I got no page12:44
fyrestrtrgeorge_looney: check the gentoo wiki, lots of excellent docs there.12:44
timmowlogging in as another user chown works fine on that users files.  But I cannot chown my files and neither can the other user12:44
george_looneyic56: man startx says "startx [ [client]  option ] "12:44
frogzooiGotNoTime: the repo you need is: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main12:44
george_looneyfyrestrtr: ok12:44
bobbywNo manual entry for woman12:44
iGotNoTimefrogzoo THANK YOU! :D:D12:44
fyrestrtr^ typical newbie12:44
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bobbywlike I said, I learn from hands on. I don't read manuals. :P12:44
fyrestrtrbobbyw: you need to start reading them, that's the bottom line.12:45
gyaresubobbyw, tab complete is great.12:45
iGotNoTimebobbyw: your hand is not the same as a woman12:45
Vratha`Evil`: install in linux via vmware?12:45
ic56george_looney: yes.  It's the old-fashioned way of doing it.  If you really don't like it, fix the source code.  startx is a bash script so that's easy.  Dunno what startfluxbox is.12:45
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fyrestrtric56: startfluxbox is a script to run a flux session12:45
george_looneyic56: startfluxbox is another script like startkde and startgnome and so on..12:45
`Evil`Vratha, QEMU, dont have much experience, just trying it out cos of some progs I need to run12:46
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bobbywfyrestrtr: I imagine when I get stuck I'll be reading a whole lot of man pages, but I'm really picking up as much as I can as fast as I can, so I don't get bored with it and reboot to windows, never to see linux again12:46
kane77how do i find out the hostname of ip in my lan??12:46
Vratha`Evil`: ah, ok.. vmware is a better solution though12:46
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andy-Hi12:46
bobbywcan you imagine what it was like finding, installing, configuring, and using wine for the first time?12:46
george_looneybobbyw: yes12:46
bobbywall for a silly little torrent program12:46
`Evil`Vratha, Dammit. I searched the net and found everyone using qemu, plus isnt vmware commercial?12:47
Flannelbobbyw: why on earth did you installw ine for a torrent program?12:47
gyaresuandy-, hi12:47
ic56george_looney: ok then.  So modify startfluxbox to give it an option to specify an alternate config file to ~/.xsession .  Specifying /dev/null will allow you to bypass the standard config file.12:47
bobbywFlannel: utorrent is hands down the best torrent client12:47
andy-Just installed Xubuntu, it's fast :)12:47
gyaresubobbyw, try rtorrent run under screen12:47
bobbywFlannel: I used a bunch of linux ones, they were all really bad12:47
george_looneyic56: its alright I will just mod my startx12:47
Vratha`Evil`: yeah, vmware is commercial software, but they just released vmware server for free non-commercial use12:47
iGotNoTimeHow can anyone say that Azureus is bad??12:47
m_0_r_0_nAny idea how to fix this problem:  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:47
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ic56george_looney: ok.12:47
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usuariohola12:48
bobbywazureus is bloated, java crap!12:48
iGotNoTimeby far the most powerful out there and it is java12:48
timmowok what sort of linux distribution won't let you chown your own files, and how do I change that?12:48
kane77hi... how do i find out the hostname of ip in my lan??12:48
bobbywutorrent and wine together use less ram than azureus12:48
bobbywin the wrong os!12:48
iGotNoTimebloated yes but loaded as well12:48
george_looneytimmow: all distros dude ;)12:48
usuariohola12:48
gyaresuiGotNoTime, azureus uses java and steals all your ram.12:48
usuariohello12:48
marcus__can anybody tell e why when edubuntu shuts down it says something about stopping a bittorrent tracker? I don't remember installing one?12:48
george_looneybobbyw: only root can do that12:48
bobbywiGotNoTime: I don't need a loaded/bloated client, especially when there is a client as awesome as utorrent12:48
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iGotNoTimeI am aware but I have 2GB I don't get stressed over it12:48
bobbywheh12:49
iGotNoTimeyour call bobby :)12:49
usuarioalguien  habla  en  espaol12:49
george_looneyooops I mean timmow: on ly root can do that12:49
usuariohola12:49
bobbywI just really, really perfer utorrent12:49
george_looney!es12:49
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:49
`Evil`Vratha, Oh. So what would you suggest for the best emulation and performance? qemu, vmware, some planner (heard) etc? Cos XP is still installing the files before the GUI mode, so I can still delete the image12:49
frogzoobobbyw: azureus is by no means crap, it's quite excellent and runs on many platforms12:49
iGotNoTimemy friend uses it too  ;)12:49
timmowok sorry root isn't allowed either12:49
marcus__i like vmware. :)12:49
gyaresu!es12:49
Vratha`Evil`: i suggest vmware for the best performance; it's not an emulator even.. it's a full blown virtual machine12:49
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:49
george_looneytimmow: huh!!??12:49
bobbywfrogzoo: yes, that's true, but when it comes down to the little things about utorrent... you can't give it up.12:49
george_looneytimmow: lemme see12:49
ic56m_0_r_0_n: try apt-get install libstdc++612:50
Vratha`Evil`: though it does capture hardware calls and provides interfaces for things like the AMD lance network card, etc... pretty crappy hardware overall12:50
george_looneyVratha: so is qemu12:50
bobbywfrogzoo: like right clicking the bottom right corners and changing upload/download speeds on the fly, and manually setting your own values for that list12:50
ardchoilletimmow: can you pastebin those examples please?12:50
Vrathabut it's gonna be way faster than qemu12:50
marcus__can anybody tell e why when edubuntu shuts down it says something about stopping a bittorrent tracker? I don't remember installing one?12:50
Vrathageorge_looney: qemu is ass slow and doesn't do virtualization anywhere near what vmware does12:50
ardchoille!repeat12:50
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:50
george_looneyVratha: ave you benchmarked them?12:50
frogzoobobbyw: azureus does that now12:50
m_0_r_0_nic56, libstdc++6 is already the newest version.12:50
bobbywthere are lots of little things you just can't man :(12:50
Vrathageorge_looney: no, i've just seen performance12:50
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george_looneyVratha: then what exactly is qemu??12:50
Vrathait's easy to tell just by running the apps12:51
Vrathathe "quick emulator"12:51
bobbywfrogzoo: not the newest version.... I tried it yesterday12:51
timmowok won't work with sudo, but will with su ... i swear ive done it with sudo before12:51
frogzoogeorge_looney: qemu is an emulator12:51
`Evil`Vratha, ah k, leme search some vmware install guide on the net12:51
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bobbywhmm12:51
bobbywwhoa12:51
bobbywit does12:51
frogzoobobbyw: you right click the file -> advanced -> speeds12:51
george_looneyfrogzoo: so how are vmware and qemu different??12:51
ardchoilletimmow: Which command are you using?12:51
frogzoogeorge_looney: they do the same thing differently12:51
bobbywalso: this pops up every time I start az, regardless of how many times i update it: SWT is the graphical library used by Azureus12:52
timmowsudo chown myusername:svn * -R12:52
Vrathageorge_looney: one runs instructions directly on the CPU... even taking advantage of hardware VM solutions such as intel's VT-x12:52
Vrathageorge_looney: and qemu doesn't12:52
frogzoogeorge_looney: qemu is free but slower than vmware, vmware & kqemu are similiar speedwise12:52
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TooSadhi12:52
ic56m_0_r_0_n: try dpkg -L libstdc++6  Does it list the missing file?  If yes, then you'd better re-install the package cause the file somehow got deleted.  If not, then I gave you the wrong pacakge -- try apt-cache search <some prefix of the needed library>12:52
timmowbut if I log in as root, I can do that12:52
Vrathaah, yeah, kqemu does do more what vmware does12:52
`Evil`Vratha, now that you mentioned Intel, I have AMD 64, it matters?12:52
TooSadi have a optical and wireless mouse, how can install it?12:52
Vrathabut that is proprietary software12:52
fyrestrtrTooSad: plug it in?12:53
bobbywthe tabs in az are ewww12:53
Vratha`Evil`: you probably have AMD's virtualization hardware then... but even if you don't, it'll still run fast12:53
ardchoillesudo chown -R myusername:svn /path/to/dir/*  has worked for me in the past12:53
ardchoilletimmow: sudo chown -R myusername:svn /path/to/dir/*  has worked for me in the past12:53
george_looneytimmow: thats what I meant when I said only root can do that12:53
bobbywsvn?12:53
`Evil`Vratha, kqemu? Wasnt that KDE's version of qemu (i think) or is it different?12:53
TooSadfyrestrtr no12:53
ic56ALL4N: right. I've never used q.  Took me a while to figure out what the hell was happening when I accidentally pressed q and how to get out of that mode.  Scary!12:53
Flanneltimmow: it has to do with default directories for root vs sudo12:53
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Vratha`Evil`: no, kqemu is some proprietary app made by some guy... i'd just go with vmware12:53
timmowyeah it has worked for me in the past, but not now...12:53
TooSadi have inser the dongle wi-fi but the mouse don't go12:53
`Evil`Vratha, k12:54
george_looneytimmow: you don't want a normal user to write a bash file containing rm -fr and chown it to root and setuid on it and then execute!!!12:54
PanicFohow can i make an app start automaticcaly when gnome fires up?12:54
PanicFoor when the system boots?12:54
TooSadi have gnome12:54
ardchoilletimmow: But, then again, I always use full pths and rarely leave my ~ dir12:54
timmowgeorge_looney, yep I understand my stupidy now12:54
ardchoilles/pths/paths/12:54
frogzoogeorge_looney: ummm....12:54
TooSadis there an application to run?12:54
timmowgeorge_looney, feel a bit silly now12:54
jribPanicFo: system > preferences > sessions > startup12:54
PanicFothnx mate12:54
m_0_r_0_nic56, no, it doesnt list the missing file. I will search the package containing this file, thanks12:55
bobbywi love that audioscrobbler is either built into every linux mp3 player i've tried, or already has a plugin out of the box12:55
Vrathahmm, ubuntu only seems to have kmplayer and not just "mplayer" :(12:55
george_looneyfrogzoo: yes...you were saying..?12:55
TooSadwho can help me?12:55
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george_looneyVratha: its in multiverse12:55
fyrestrtrVratha: sudo apt-get install mplayer12:56
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frogzoogeorge_looney: you can't suid linux bash scripts12:56
bobbywanyone know how to stop my mouse up and down wheel to stop doing what 4 and 5 buttons should do? back and forward?12:56
timmowconfirmed, on my arch linux box I can chown a file in my home dir with sudo, but not on ubuntu12:56
Vrathageorge_looney: ah, ok; i'll add that to my repository; i'm using "universe" now12:56
timmowwhich is what confused me12:56
buntaOkey, bit off-topic.. but funny: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-718442093371010827012:56
buntaxD12:56
george_looneyfrogzoo: :D ooops sorry forgot that one ... just givin an example I did want to say12:56
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`Evil`Vratha, this install is taking a Lot of time, can I close the window or anyother way?12:57
Jh00bunta how can I watch that on Linux?12:57
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Vratha`Evil`: i don't recall the install taking long :-/12:57
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frogzoo`Evil`: what's a long time, in your books?12:58
`Evil`Vratha, It got stuck i think at Installing Devices part, maybe it freezed12:58
george_looneytimmow: "cd $HOME; touch myfile; sudo chown root myfile" works on my box12:58
`Evil`frogzoo, About 15mins+ on Installing Devices12:58
buntaJh00, you can just use flash :o12:58
buntahave it installed (so.. firefox or swiftfox I suppose)12:58
bunta:p12:58
frogzoo!fixinstall > `Evil`12:59
timmowgeorge_looney, not on mine12:59
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Jh00bunta: hmm firefox inst installed in default Kubuntu I guess... I will pass, thanks12:59
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george_looneytimmow: strange I just removed the "myfile" with rm and it was root owned01:00
`Evil`frogzoo, Not ubuntu, I'm installing XP in qemu01:00
timmowgeorge_looney, this is a clean install of dapper kubuntu - maybe if you did upgrades its not the same01:00
fyrestrtrJh00: kubutnu komes with konqueror01:00
timmowgeorge_looney, im basing it on ls -lh01:00
buntalol01:00
buntaGrab swiftfox01:00
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buntano need to install that :P01:00
buntagetswiftfox.com ;)01:00
buntaJust extract, and run =D01:00
timmowgeorge_looney, but I am allowed to remove the file ...01:00
jribgeorge_looney: you can rm if you have write ownership to the directory it is in I think01:01
`Evil`Anyone know any specific way to kill qemu or just close the window?01:01
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frogzoo`Evil`: oh, depending on doze version, you might need the workaround - qemu --help i think01:01
george_looneytimmow: well, I'm on custom Ubuntu from alternate with full upgrades applied01:01
fyrestrtr`Evil`: you can kill the process from another term01:01
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frogzoo`Evil`: -win2k-hack     needed for doze 200001:02
george_looneyjrib: I know, I actually filed it as a bug report to bugs@gnu.org long time ago!!!!01:02
CyDriveCan someone help me im trying to get forstwire to work in terminal i type frostwire and it says i need to install java but i did i reinstalled java again but it dosent work. What should i do?01:02
`Evil`fyrestrtr, how do I do that? qemu isnt coming under the running processes in system monitor01:02
`Evil`frogzoo, Its XP SP201:02
MikeyMikethis is off topic but is there a site that i can check out that regards well designed cases for keeping my hardrives cool?01:02
fyrestrtrCyDrive: not the java plugin, but the JRE01:02
george_looneyjrib: I think I'm loosing my memory!01:02
MikeyMikeanyone in here into building comps01:02
MikeyMikefor that purpose01:02
MenZa!offtopic01:02
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:02
jribCyDrive: did you install Sun Java?01:02
CyDriveyeah i installed sun java01:02
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Vrathageorge_looney: hmm, i added multiverse from dapper-backports to my sources.list and did "apt-get update", but i still dont see just "mplayer"01:02
fyrestrtrCyDrive: did you install just the plugin? You need to install the jre as well, the update-alternatives java01:03
fyrestrtrCyDrive: follow the wiki on installing java01:03
Jh00bunta: ok, downloading... Im running this from a CD you know :)01:03
frogzoo`Evil`: a qemu install will be horribly slow - don't think 15mins is necessarily a problem...01:03
jribCyDrive: run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and make sure sun's java is selected01:03
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george_looneyVratha: you need "deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse"01:03
fyrestrtr!info mplayer01:03
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB01:03
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timmowgeorge_looney, another twist sudo vim is now not working01:04
kolajehas anyone tried hosting a rom or diku mud from ubuntu?01:04
Vrathageorge_looney: ooh, ok01:04
marcus__where does one install fonts in ubuntu?01:04
george_looneytimmow: yipes!01:04
frogzoo`Evil`: I tend to do it once, than gzip the image away rather than reinstalling01:04
jrib!fonts > marcus__01:04
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timmowin one shell though, not in another one so I guess something weird is going on...01:04
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`Evil`frogzoo, Yep had experiences installing xp, but i'm damn sure its stuck cos its about close to 20 mins and its not budging from Installing devices, :/01:04
marcus__thank you01:04
kolajehas anyone tried hosting a rom or diku mud from ubuntu?01:05
CyDrivethank you that fixed it it was using a diffrent version of java01:05
frogzoo`Evil`: my advice, grab a sandwich - qemu installs are impossibly slow01:05
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MikeyMikeugh01:05
buntaJh00, jahootsiezz.. Why u runnin a livecd? :p01:05
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`Evil`frogzoo, hmm.. k lemme try01:05
buntaInstall! And rid urself of ur sins01:05
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fyrestrtr`Evil`: my advice, pop in a movie. I recommend 'Blazing Saddles'01:05
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buntaI am jebus! I am here to clean away all ur windows sins01:05
buntaand send u straight to linux heaven ;p01:06
MikeyMikeok01:06
MikeyMikewhy do i get sent to offtopic01:06
MikeyMikethat always irks me01:06
`Evil`fyrestrtr, lol.. yep but seeing qemu now I'm seriously checking out vmware01:06
andy-bunta: you ever watch Initial D?01:06
buntahttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1921276117304287501&q=george+bush <-- nice :p01:06
jribMikeyMike: there is a #hardware channel you can try01:06
MikeyMikeandy-,  haha yes! thats what i was thinking01:06
MikeyMikeBunta!01:06
andy-MikeyMike: the man that never stops smoking01:07
g0stAnyone get Ubuntu hacks?01:07
MikeyMikeandy-,  or kicking ass....01:07
frogzoo`Evil`: found this quote: "Wait. Then wait some more while the XP install process takes place. For some reason it takes hours even on a very fast machine. Many people have pointed this out but no one seems to know why. After the install was complete my copy of XP hung on the first boot (no progress and no CPU useage). This has been reported by some people who have waited more than a day for the system to boot with no effect. I got fed up of waiting and sh01:07
andy-MikeyMike: indeed..01:07
buntaandy-, I've heard of it.. its that racing anime right?01:07
buntaMikeyMike, yo =D01:07
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andy-MikeyMike: have you seen the movie? bunta is even funnier in that.01:07
MikeyMiketurbo.... awd01:07
`Evil`frogzoo, lmao01:07
frogzoo`Evil`: so your call really01:07
MikeyMikeandy-,  yah he's a doggone drunk01:07
andy-bunta: yeah, there is a movie based on it too.01:07
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buntaandy- lol, nawp.. Might go grab it.. :P01:07
andy-lol yea, awesome stuff.01:07
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`Evil`frogzoo, hehe.. that reminded me of douglas adams style of writing :D01:07
MikeyMikeandy-,  i have a turbo awd eclipse :)01:08
george_looneylater people and thanks for all the help :)01:08
MikeyMikeno drifting for me...01:08
andy-ooh nice01:08
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andy-MikeyMike: im in audi a4, not much drifting either =\01:08
MikeyMike:D awd for the win01:08
buntaI have no car01:08
andy-yea01:08
buntafor I am a cheap bastard..01:08
andy-bunta: hehe01:08
timmowright sudo just stopped working.  Now closing konsole and restarting it gives timmy is not in the sudoers file01:08
MikeyMikei've got alot of mods.. hks 272's 880cc injectors 50trim so on so forth01:08
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buntaand spend all my money on non-motor related items :p01:09
timmowso has some update stopped sudo working?01:09
EnverexI seem to have lots of rubbish starting as services when I start my computer. Is there any way to prune all that? There are far too many things starting at boot and BUM doesn't seem to disable them when I tell it to (and update-rc.d isn't much use as I can't really see what's going on with it)01:09
jribtimmow: type 'groups', are you in the admin group?01:09
timmowjrib, yep01:10
fyrestrtrEnverex: update-rc.d is a wrapper to remove/add init.d scripts. What do you find confusing about it, and what services are you trying to disable?01:10
MikeyMikei need a harddrive cooler that isn't noisy as shit01:10
MikeyMikebah01:10
Jh00bunta: it worked! Thanks for the tip!01:10
timmowI installed three kde updates this morning, and since then sudo has stopped working01:10
jribtimmow: you have root access?01:10
frogzoooh noes - the new amarok look is awful01:10
timmowjrib, yep01:10
zaidahi all01:10
jribtimmow: is the admin group in your /etc/sudoers?01:10
zaidahow can i add a new network interface?01:10
Enverexfyrestrtr, Well something like BUM would be useful if it worked. I have lots of things like power management (laptop stuff), laptop keys, boinc, etc that I dont want started01:11
fyrestrtrzaida: first, check in system > administration > networking to see if its detected.01:11
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fyrestrtrEnverex: hrmm, just a second01:11
zaidaits not detected01:11
buntaJh00, no problemos.. Glad to help ;)01:11
timmowjrib, it has a % in front of it, so I assume not...01:11
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root___anyone use vnc/freenx in here?01:11
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buntaMaybe u can donate a car :P01:11
Da_Putzlerhi guys01:11
jribtimmow: no, that's the correct syntax for groups01:11
buntaas a gesture of good will ;p01:11
zaidafyrestrtr, its not detected in system > administration > networking01:11
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Da_PutzlerCan someone help me with a power management problem...01:12
fyrestrtrEnverex: if you know the names of the scripts, you can just disable them from update-rc.d -- what have you tried?01:12
root___anyone use vnc/freenx in here?01:12
Jh00bunta: LOL that one is funny!01:12
fyrestrtrzaida: is it detected by your system?01:12
zaidafyrestrtr, but i can see it in dmesg01:12
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jribtimmow: and you are sure that groups said 'admin', not something like 'lpadmin'?01:12
timmowjrib, I think I am running a different version of KDE from automatix - so I guess that could be causing the problem01:12
Da_PutzlerI've set my lcd monitor to power down an dsleep in 5 minutes, but when it does, the screen just blanks instead of actually turning the monitor off and onyto standby... anu ideas ?01:12
zaidafyrestrtr, [17179596.560000]  eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xd895e000, 00:05:1c:06:4e:26, IRQ 16901:12
timmowyep01:12
fyrestrtrzaida: you don't see eth0 in network manager ?01:12
zaidafyrestrtr, but not in lspci01:13
bunta=P01:13
buntaI have plenty more comin01:13
buntaI just gots to errm.. test em myself ;)01:13
Enverexfyrestrtr, Well I don't know the names of the scripts for a start, heh01:13
zaidafyrestrtr, no i can't see it01:13
zaidafyrestrtr, i can see only eth101:13
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timmowjrib, definitely admin01:13
fyrestrtrEnverex: ls /etc/init.d/ (don't start deleting files from there -- just get the names and then use update-rc.d)01:13
andy-Anyone have any suggestions for mouse acceleration?01:13
zaidafyrestrtr, but its another network card01:14
fyrestrtrzaida: you cannot see it in ifconfig -a ?01:14
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fyrestrtrandy-: a cat :)01:14
zaidafyrestrtr, no :-(01:14
fyrestrtrzaida: is the 819too module loaded?01:15
zaidayes01:15
zaidafyrestrtr, yes01:15
jribtimmow: strange, not sure why that would happen.  You can try making a new user in the admin group and seeing if that works.  If it doesn't, then you can try explicitly putting the user's username in sudoers.  Not sure what else to recommend01:15
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fyrestrtrzaida: hrmm, edit /etc/networking/interfaces and add it there then.01:15
root___anyone use vnc/freenx in here?01:15
andy-there was a command i used in console which fixed my mouse in ubuntu before.. can't think of it for the life of me01:15
Enverexfyrestrtr, k. Just wish BUM worked, unticking the boxes is hell of a lot faster, heh01:15
andy-was a 'command 00 00'01:15
andy-or something along those lines01:15
fyrestrtrEnverex: well, for me, cli > *  :)01:15
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Enverexfyrestrtr, meh, I dont see why, it just takes longer to do the same thing in this case01:16
er4z0rre01:16
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zaidafyrestrtr, auto eth0 is present in /etc/network/interfaces01:16
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Da_PutzlerQ.) The Power Management on my Ubuntu system is setup for 5 minutes and after that time my monitor only goes blank and does not switch into standby... any ideas ???01:16
fyrestrtrzaida: is there a cable plugged into the card?01:16
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rr<root___> i use nx from nomachine.org which is free as well ...01:17
zaidayes01:17
fyrestrtrzaida: okay, try sudo ifconfig eth0 up01:17
rrworks like a charm01:17
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g0sthttp://www.oreilly.com/catalog/ubuntuhks/01:17
GG_AllinI'm having trouble getting wpa_supplicant working01:17
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fyrestrtrEnverex: because you can pipe the output of ls into exec and then do whatever you want ;)01:17
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zaidafyrestrtr, eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device01:17
g0stGG_Allin, yeah me too01:17
g0stit's retarded01:17
er4z0ranyone running handbrake under ubuntu?01:18
Jh00time to go. Have a good day everyone!01:18
GG_Allinfor the intel 3945 I use the wext driver, correct?01:18
fyrestrtrzaida: the network card works, right?01:18
zaidafyre lspci don'd show the card01:18
er4z0rDa_Putzler: have you tried booting without the splashscreen and looking what happens?01:18
rrer4z0r : i stopped using windows bcause of the handbrake :-)01:19
zaidafyrestrtr, i think that it work01:19
zaidai've buy it yesterday01:19
Da_Putzleryep, acpm is fine and working... just doesnt turn of the lcd monitor lamp inside, only blanks screen01:19
fyrestrtrzaida: pastebin the output of lsmod01:19
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frogzooer4z0r: what's handbrake?01:20
er4z0rrr: are there any packages around or do i stll have to build it from source?01:20
PanicFodoes anyone know the keycode for the left windows key?01:20
buntaGuys: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1921276117304287501&q=george+bush01:20
er4z0rfrogzoo: http://handbrake.m0k.org/01:20
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buntaEnjoy.. really.. enjoy it =P God bless america01:20
frogzooPanicFo: xev is your friend01:20
fyrestrtrPanicFo: xev and find out :)01:20
frogzooer4z0r: thx01:20
Lwis_Kaheler4z0r : lol01:20
er4z0rLwis_Kahel: ?01:20
rrer4z0r, sry man, don't even know what "handbrake" is, fill me in ..01:21
root___HEY!!! anyone use freenx/vnc in here?01:21
Da_Putzleris their any problems with Ubuntu's power management ?01:21
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zaidafyrestrtr, http://rafb.net/paste/results/aAJXz934.html01:21
frogzooDa_Putzler: suspend doesn't work for all platforms01:21
er4z0rroot___: did some time ago yes01:21
Da_Putzlerdamn... was hoping it would work for my lcd monitor... oh well...01:22
fyrestrtrzaida: what does mii-tool eth0 tell you?01:22
er4z0rDa_Putzler: what machine/gfx-card?01:22
root___did you ever run across an error for freenx "failed public key authorization"?01:22
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root___or "remote connection refused by server" for vnc?01:22
PanicFodammit.. i want to use the left windowskey to pop up tilda but it doesnt like it one bit01:22
PanicFoany ideas?01:23
zaidafyrestrtr, eth1: autonegotiation failed, link ok01:23
er4z0rroot___: sorry, didn't. Also didn't use it very extensively01:23
PanicFoive tried Super_L and 0xffeb but it fails01:23
Da_Putzlerit's an on-board gfx card01:23
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frogzooDa_Putzler: it doesn't work for ALL platforms, but does work for most - what's your vid card? that's the biggest issue01:23
er4z0rrr: DVD-"Backup" Tool. see link above ;)01:23
fyrestrtrzaida: nothing for eth0 ?01:23
zaidafyrestrtr, nothing01:23
fyrestrtrzaida: hrmm, could be a bad card.01:24
rrer4z0r : , readin right now thnx ..01:24
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er4z0rDa_Putzler: could you please b more specific about the card01:24
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er4z0rDa_Putzler: look for the lspci output01:24
frogzooPanicFo: it's possible, not likely, the key's not mapped in kernel01:24
root___ok easier problem then... i somehow managed to screw up my sudo abilities about 20 minutes ago so now i have to be root to make changes... how do i fix that again01:24
fyrestrtrzaida: lspci -vv -- paste the part about the card.01:24
root___all it asks for is passowrd but it doesn't complete my command01:24
Da_Putzlerhow do I do that ? I dunno how to list hardware on Ubuntu01:24
frogzooPanicFo: showkey -s    give you anything?01:24
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er4z0rok01:25
fyrestrtrDa_Putzler: type lspci -vv01:25
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er4z0rroot___: how did you screw it up? ;)01:25
er4z0rroot___: did you really enter YOUR password at the prompt? or did you try the root-pw all the time? ;)01:25
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PanicFodid it :D01:26
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PanicFothnx anyway :)01:26
Da_PutzlerIt's a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Itegrated Video (rev 01)01:26
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PanicFoi had to type in "none+Super_L" in the keybinding thingie01:26
root___cuz there were some permission problems with freenx and the nx user and a different user i was trying to log in as and i thought i didn't have the right permissions so i changed them... left out the sudo group on accident... readded it but now i cant sudo01:26
zaidafyrestrtr, i've got two equal card01:26
zaidafyrestrtr, only one is showed01:27
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root___does ubuntu make a habit of port blocking?01:27
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fyrestrtrzaida: might be a irq conflict01:28
gatekeeperroot___: did some googling and found this: http://www.nomachine.com/ar/view.php?ar_id=AR10B0004601:28
fyrestrtr!firewall01:28
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)01:28
buntalololol:01:28
buntahttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1921276117304287501&q=george+bush01:28
pirasthi, i want to use my two soundcards (onboard and audigy2). for audio output i want to use my audigy2.. how can i select the audigy2 as a ourput device in ubuntu?01:28
buntaWatch it.. its like 9 seconds long01:28
buntaThats.. funneh =D01:28
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zaidafyrestrtr, what can i do to resolve it?01:28
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zaidafyrestrtr, look this http://rafb.net/paste/results/hn5Qna47.html01:29
rrpirast : is there a device listed cvalled emu10k ?01:29
root___..... huh?01:29
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rrpirast : or similar01:30
pygianyone care to gimme the name of python bindings for libglade, and python bindings for gtk?01:30
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pirastrr: sure it is01:30
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pirastrr: alsa detects my cards correctly.. but my onboardchip is the sound output device01:31
Da_Putzleris their an easy way to disable services and speed up booting time in Ubuntu ???01:31
rrpirast : but u can't use it as the ouput dev ?01:31
rrpirats : right01:31
pygiDa_Putzler, BUM01:31
Da_Putzlerbum ?01:31
pygiaha, application :P01:32
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Da_Putzlerand are things like Cron and Kcron really needed ?01:32
pirastrr: i could but i would have to disable my onboard device01:32
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devanhi, im new to linux, can some1 pls tell me how i can listen to mp3's01:33
pirastrr: and since i want to use my onboard device on an other way, i cant disable it :-(01:33
blup|patrickhi01:33
fyrestrtrpygi: python-glade-1.2 python-gtk-1.201:33
rrpirast : looking for a alsa config file , can't find it ...01:33
Da_Putzlerdevan: what linux have u installed ?? Ubuntu ??? if so, load RhythmBox to play audio files01:33
blup|patrickwhcih linux tool can i use to check harddrives01:33
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pygifyrestrtr, not for gtk 1.2 :P01:33
devanok01:34
ic56Da_Putzler: cron is an essential service, though things will work for a while without it.  kcron is not essential.01:34
iandevan Look on Ubuntu Support Home (on the website) for "restricted file formats".01:34
pygibut right :)01:34
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rrpirast : i suppose u use alsa01:34
blup|patricki have a harddrive that failed and owuld like to document that faillure01:34
ianAnyone know why my USB thumb drive isn't being detected?01:34
pirastrr: yes, thats correct.01:34
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blup|patrickneed a tool that scan a drive for bad sectors01:34
gatekeeperblup|patrick: badblocks, and I think smartctrl01:34
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blup|patricksmartcrtl... ok... searching for it01:35
Da_Putzleric56: ho wabout klogd and sysklogd (the activity loggers) are those needed ? and anacron,atd01:35
fyrestrtrzaida: are these both external cards, or are they built-in?01:35
fyrestrtrzaida: or is one built-in?01:35
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george_looneycan I ask a potentially volatile and possibly flame-bait question??01:35
sus_hello guys01:35
rrpirast : /var/lib/alsa/asound.state01:35
frogzoogeorge_looney: oh yes01:35
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chaituhi guys!01:35
fyrestrtrgeorge_looney: if it has to do with ubuntu, yes, otherwise take it to -ot01:35
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sus_i got a problem with installing the xchat-ruby plugin01:35
pirastrr: thanks, ill have a look01:35
sus_i get this error when i do make: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1885501:36
zaidafyrestrtr, there are two external pci card01:36
george_looneyfrogzoo: Are the Debian people very displeased with ubunt guys??01:36
chaituis there any one who know to install and config mame in ubuntu01:36
sus_anyone knows which libs i need to install?01:36
Da_Putzlerlooney: why should they be... ubuntu is a damn good debian distro01:36
fyrestrtrzaida: I think they are both trying to grab the same irq, but I am not sure to be honest.01:36
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ic56Da_Putzler: I take that back about kcron.  I was thinking of anacron.  kcron is a KDE user agent and is unnecessary (unless you are running KDE *and* you want to manage cron from the GUI)01:37
frogzooblup|patrick: smartmontools01:37
Da_Putzleric56: so anacron isnt really needed ?01:37
zaidafyrestrtr, what can i do to check this?01:37
george_looneyfrogzoo: is it #ubuntu-ot??01:37
fyrestrtrzaida: I don't know :(01:37
george_looneyfrogzoo: or just #ot?01:37
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zaidafyrestrtr, why i can't see it in dmesg?01:37
frogzoogeorge_looney: -> #ubuntu-offtopic01:37
fyrestrtr#ubuntu-offtopic01:37
george_looneyfrogzoo: thanks01:37
rrpirast : i've no idea how to change the default output channel , but my guess is in this file, change the soundcard order, or with a kernel module parameter01:38
fyrestrtrzaida: I don't know, sorry.01:38
fyrestrtrDa_Putzler: you need anacron.01:38
ic56Da_Putzler: the loggers are essential services but the system will work without them indefinitely.  There may be programs that are written to abort if logging isn't possible, but I think most will ignore the error condition and continue working.01:38
devanwhen i open mp3's with rythembox nothing happens, how can i listen to mp3's please01:38
zaidafyrestrtr, ok thank you too01:38
pirastrr: yeah thanks01:38
fyrestrtr!mp3 > devan01:38
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Da_Putzler<--- just treying to speed up boot times and get rid of unneeded services01:38
ianAnyone have any idea why a usb thumbdrive won't be detected?01:39
frogzooDa_Putzler: logs will fill up is probly worst that will happen01:39
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ChousukeDa_Putzler: Most of the services loaded at boot are necessary.01:39
devanmp3 > devan?01:39
chaitufrogzoo, hi01:39
Da_Putzlerfrogzoo: does it clear it's own logs or do they keep getting bigger and bigger01:39
frogzoochaitu: hiya01:39
PingunZgoodmorning all01:39
fyrestrtrlogs will fill up, your locate database won't be updated, any scheduled tasks won't be able to run01:39
chaitufrogzoo, can u help me out01:39
devanwhen i open mp3's with rythembox nothing happens, how can i listen to mp3's please01:39
frogzooDa_Putzler: they get rolled after a while01:39
fyrestrtr!mp301:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:39
frogzoochaitu: ask the chan, not me01:40
Da_Putzlerfrogzoo: oh, that's ok... will see about removing them01:40
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devanwhat does !mp3 mean01:40
ic56Da_Putzler: atd is an essential service.  Though people sometimes build essential functionality around it, people usually build such things into crontabs rather than at jobs so you can get away without an atd.  But, of course, you will lost at(1) job functionality.01:40
Chousukeit's an ubotu trigger.01:40
jribdevan: read what ubotu said after the !mp301:40
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iandevan, he's asking the channel bot to tell you the answer.01:40
fyrestrtrdevan: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats01:40
chaitufrogzoo, do u know anything abt mame?01:40
devanok01:40
frogzoochaitu: nope01:40
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Chousukechaitu: you can install mame with apt01:41
ianHaving issues with my USB thumb-drive not being detected.  Anyone got an idea why?01:41
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Chousukechaitu: then go read the manual pages. It's a bit difficult to use :P01:41
ian!usb01:41
ubotuI know nothing about usb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:41
fyrestrtrian: how do you know its not being detected?01:41
chaitufrogzoo, ya i did it ,but failed in config it01:41
Lwis_Kahelchaitu : why do you want mame ?01:41
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fyrestrtrian: because its not showing up on the desktop?01:41
ianfyrestrtr : Good question.  First time using one.01:42
chaituChousuke, for what they are01:42
fyrestrtrian: are you on ubuntu, or something else (kubuntu, etc.)01:42
blup|patrickfrogzoo: jep... that tool doesnt work with sata01:42
CarinArrdoes anyone know if there's a way to set font smoothness for firefox? the fonts look very aliased..01:42
ianfyrestrtr : Where would I find it, if not the desktop (where my external HD shows up...)01:42
Chousukechaitu: hm?01:42
blup|patricki have installed it already01:42
ic56Da_Putzler: as for anacron, it allows jobs to be started after a reboot.  It is inessential.  It isn't running on my breezy system (I don't think I disabled it. it's installed but non-running by default)01:42
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ianfyrestrtr : Dapper.01:42
Saharshhello all01:42
Saharshi want a help01:42
Saharshanyone ?01:42
chaituChousuke, do u have any idea how to config it?01:42
ic56Da_Putzler: does that answer your qeustions?01:42
Chousukechaitu: I can't tell you directly what to do, since it's been so long since I last used it.01:43
ianfyrestrtr : Yeah, just Ubuntu.01:43
dregaSaharsh you want to help anyone01:43
Chousukechaitu: but it's all explained in the man page.01:43
dregajump right in01:43
Saharshi want know the difference between kubuntu , ubuntu and edubunt01:43
ic56Saharsh: ask your question01:43
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fyrestrtrian: open up a terminal, in it type tail -f /var/log/messages -- then unplug and replug the usb drive and see what shows up.01:43
ic56!edubuntu01:43
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org01:43
Chousukechaitu: just read the man page carefully and you should be able to configure it.01:43
chaituChousuke, guide me01:43
ic56!kubuntu01:43
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:43
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ic56!ubuntu01:43
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome01:43
ianfyrestrtr : Will do.01:43
PingunZ!kernel01:43
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild01:43
PingunZ!lol01:44
ubotuI know nothing about lol - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:44
fyrestrtr!msgthebot01:44
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots01:44
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Chousukechaitu: have you installed mame with apt?01:44
ianfyrestrtr : Ok, done.01:44
chaituyup01:44
Chousukechaitu: I think there might exist some GUI for mame in the repositories.01:44
fyrestrtrian: what did you see in the log window?01:44
Chousukechaitu: but what I do know is that you need to have your games in a special directory before you can run them with mame01:45
Chousukechaitu: the mame manpage tells what that directory is.01:45
fyrestrtris anyone else experiencing lag?01:45
ianfyrestrtr: Hmm, I forgot where to post things like that...Benn a while since I was here.01:45
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fyrestrtrian: check the /topic ;)01:46
ic56!pastebin01:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:46
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chaituChousuke, it says in the dir /usr/games/xmame/roms but there is already a file xmame01:46
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Chousukechaitu: hm?01:46
ianfyrestrtr: Could you repeat that in slightly more n00b terms? ;)01:46
Chousukechaitu: just put your rom .zips in that directory.01:47
fyrestrtrian: which bit?01:47
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chaituChousuke, there is no dir01:47
ianfyrestrtr: The part about /topic. I don't understand that part.01:47
Chousukechaitu: then create it01:47
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Chousukesudo mkdir -p /usr/games/xmame/roms01:47
chaituChousuke, there already a file with the same name01:47
khaled_Hi there, how can i make FireStarter automatically start when i start Ubuntu ?01:48
fyrestrtrian: oh, the location of the pastebin service is always listed in the channel topic. You can see what the topic is by typing /topic in your irc client, or just type !pastebin01:48
Chousukechaitu: that doesn't matter.01:48
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fyrestrtrkhaled_: it does that by default.01:48
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ian!pastebin01:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:48
ianfyrestrtr: Ok, one sec while I post.01:48
Chousukeunless it's a file for some reason, and not a directory. :/01:48
Hexidigital_does anyone know of any cisco emulation (IOS) software runnable under ubuntu? (for certification classes, etc)01:48
Chousukein which case you need to find the other acceptable path.01:49
khaled_fyrestrtr: I don't think so because i don't see it's icon in the panel, is there any config i should make ???01:49
ChousukeI think ~/.xmame/roms should work too01:49
fyrestrtrkhaled_: the gui doesn't start, but the firewall itself is running on startup.01:49
Chousukebut I'm not sure.01:49
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khaled_fyrestrtr: Ok, Thanx01:49
fyrestrtrkhaled_: there is an option in firestarter to have it auto-start, have a look in its preferences section.01:49
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ianfyrestrtr: Ok, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1885601:50
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fyrestrtrkhaled_: I mean, auto-start the gui part. Firestarter is just a front end to iptables, which starts up whenever you boot the system. So you don't need to worry that your firewall isn't working or anything.01:50
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khaled_fyrestrtr: This is what i wanted to make sure of, thanx for your help01:51
ianSide-question: How adequate is firestarter when using default settings?01:51
fyrestrtrian: okay, post the output of the command dmesg01:52
root___http://www.nomachine.com/ar/view.php?ar_id=AR07C0023901:52
root___can someone explain that one too me in laymens terms...?01:52
fyrestrtrian: plug in the drive, then run dmesg, and paste its ouput.01:52
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fyrestrtrroot___: well you see, there are these tubes right.....01:53
Hexidigital_anyone know the correct syntax in terminal to not need to type sudo repeatedly? sudo -i {command}?01:53
ianfyrestrtr: Umm, when I type "dmesg" there is a VERY long output...01:53
jribHexidigital_: just 'sudo -i'01:53
Hexidigital_jrib::  next line put the command then?01:53
jribHexidigital_: yes, you get a root prompt afterwards01:53
Hexidigital_jrib::  ah, ty01:54
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jribHexidigital_: you can exit, by typing 'exit' by the way :)01:54
fyrestrtrian: type this dmesg > ~/output.txt -- then the output is in output.txt and you can open and paste that.01:54
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Hexidigital_jrib::  :) thanks01:54
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root___fyrestrtr: im more interested in how to set the "nx" uid the same as the ldap(whatever the hell that is) id so i can log in01:54
bimberiHexidigital_: 'sudo -i' by itself puts you in a root login shell01:54
bobbywI need help configuring my mouse wheel and back/forth buttons01:54
bobbywcan someone please help?01:54
Hexidigital_heh... i was doing sudo -i apt-get update (so i can install a bunch of programs)01:55
ianfyrestrtr: I just pasted the output to an amendment (direct from term)01:55
ianfyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1885801:55
rrroot___ : i reckon u don't ldap for authentication ?01:55
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rrroot___ : did u install freenx or rhe deb's from nomachine.org01:56
blup|patrickcrap.. i sther e not tool out yet, that lets check my satadrive about bad blocks?01:56
pirastthe ubuntu installer has a bug when mounting ntfs partitions. how has the entry in /etc/fstab to look in order to mount a ntfs partition without problems01:56
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bobbywcan't even really mount ntfs rw, can you?01:56
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pirastbobbyw: i only want it to be ro.. but that doesnt work, too..01:57
gatekeeperbobbyw: there are ways to write to ntfs, there are howto on the ubuntu forums01:57
frogzoo!ntfs01:58
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:58
fyrestrtrian: hrmm, strange. Can't see anything USB related there.01:58
pirastthanks01:58
ryan_narutoif you plug in a usb printer does ubuntu recognize it automatically????01:58
ianfyrestrtr: Any luck in understanding all that? ;)  About 70 percent is over my head...01:58
fyrestrtrian: do other usb devices work?01:58
ianfyrestrtr: Yeah, USB external HD worked in the past.01:58
gatekeeperpirast: there are ways to write to ntfs, there are howto on the ubuntu forums01:58
fyrestrtryeah its not a problem to understand it.01:59
frogzoook, now ubuntu does everything I can possibly think of, why will I ever need to upgrade from here?01:59
rrroot___ : do a "dpkg -l | grep nx" to list the packages01:59
pirastgatekeeper: i know, thank you.. but I dont need it :-) reading is enough for me01:59
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fyrestrtrian: hrmm, I don't know what is the problem with your usb stick. Try this last thing. Unplug it, wait, replug it in, then type mount01:59
ryan_narutomy usb stick isnt recognized by ubuntu the second time i plugged it in... even if i rebooted01:59
gatekeeperpirast: just for info :-)01:59
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user-landHello, are Grub problems the same on Ubuntu and Kubuntu ?02:00
pirastuser-land: yes02:00
ianfyrestrtr: No output re: USB...02:01
ryan_narutowhat would i look for in the after typing in the mount... i have the same problem with my usb stick02:01
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user-landthanks pirast.  I tried to add a few old harddisks to my computer now, but grub threw errors 15 and 17 consistently.02:01
ianfyrestrtr: Worked about 30 mins ago on my buddy's XP (yuck face) box...02:01
Ace2007Hi, I'm having trouble compiling firefox, i get an error about freetype, can anyone help?02:02
pirastuser-land: are they slave? you have to make sure that your ubuntu partition is master02:02
khaled_do anyone one know how can i download the source code of any application?02:02
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user-landthe kubuntu partition is master, yes. the others were slave, yes.02:02
andreahi^^02:03
user-landso i removed the other harddisks, but now my dual monitor setup does not work anymore, instead i am stuck with 1024x800 instead of 1200 pixel ...02:03
bimberikhaled_: sudo apt-get source <package>02:03
frogzookhaled_: apt-get source pkgname02:03
Hexidigital_before i go to #apache, i get an error "could not verify the qualified domain name... using 127.0.0.1"... i WANT it to use localhost, because it's a test server... anyone know which config file i need to edit?02:03
rrkhaled : *i think* u have to add the -src repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list02:03
khaled_thanx guys02:03
rrklaled : then add the source packages02:03
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pirastuser-land: and if everything does not help you can boot from a livecd, look which partition is your ubuntu one and then open grub and type root (hdx,x) followed by setup (hdx)02:04
ianfyrestrtr: Ok, well, gotta work way too early today.  Have to try again tomorrow night.  <shrug>  Thanks for the help.  I appreciate it.02:04
frogzookhaled_: yeh - enable the source repos02:04
khaled_frogzoo: can u elaborate?02:04
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pirastuser-land the first x is 0 for hda; 1 for hdb and so on. the second x is 0 for hdx1; 1 for hdx2 and so on02:04
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CyDriveIs there any program for linux that can play dvds?02:04
pirast!restrictedformats02:05
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frogzookhaled_: synaptic -> settings -> repositories -> enable the source repos02:05
user-landpirast, this is too complicated for me, i give up using the other harddisks, thank you.02:05
frogzooCyDrive: nothing beats gxine02:06
user-landi remember i had to edit a file manually for the dual head configuration, but i don't remember where.02:06
pirastuser-land: no problem :-) it is not that complicated, it just sounds complicated ;-)02:06
CyDrivegxine wont play my movie02:06
frogzoouser-land: read the grub docs sometime02:06
cr3is there a way to rip a CD to mp3 files from the command line?02:07
user-landfrogzoo, not everybody is that clever ...02:07
ryan_narutoive installed the codecs to play avi files but but i cant seem to have a descent display02:07
frogzooCyDrive: did you install libdvdcss2 ?02:07
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CyDriveprobably not02:07
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frogzooCyDrive: well there ya go02:07
fyrestrtrHexidigital_: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf02:07
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Hexidigital_fyrestrtr::  thx :) much appreciated02:08
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frogzoo!restricted > CyDrive02:08
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josh__how long will it take to setup an ftp server so i can move stuff from my work computer to my home computer? where can i find a tutorial on how to do it?02:09
fyrestrtrjosh__: sudo apt-get install openssh-server02:09
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josh__yeah i have open ssh.... didn't work so i had to get lssh02:10
fyrestrtrjosh__: then on your work machine, install winscp and login to the remote machine from there.02:10
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josh__winscp goes over ssh?02:10
fyrestrtrwinscp = windows secure copy02:10
FrekoDingyes02:10
josh__oh snap02:10
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chemajaIgnite_: YO BIIIISH02:10
Ignite_rofl02:10
Ignite_<302:10
josh__thats another for the memory stick lol02:10
rrjosh__ filezilla works too02:11
rrsry fyre02:11
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IRCMonkeyxhi, In terminal, when i click tab, it asks that do u wanna see all 1899 commands, for example when i wanna learn apt-get, i write man -k , it explains apt-gat, In this way it takes too much time, what command must i give to read all 1899 line by line ??02:11
trifhit tab again02:12
trifalthough I don't think that will do what you really want02:12
fyrestrtrrr: why are you apologizing to me?02:12
fyrestrtrIRCMonkeyx: if you want to learn apt-get, just type man apt-get02:12
fyrestrtrIRCMonkeyx: if you want to learn the commands, try something like tldp.org02:13
trifyou can most likely find some easy to read tutorials on the web too02:13
trifsometimes man pages are a bit technical02:13
user-landmy /etc/X11/xorg.conf is still ok, what could be the reason the second monitor does not get used anymore suddenly ?02:13
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fyrestrtruser-land: its turned off?02:14
er4z0rhmm anyone trying handbrake now? ;)02:14
IRCMonkeyxfyrestrtr: it is so useful for me man -k , i only, if i have any chance to see all 1899 commands explanation line by line02:14
IRCMonkeyxfyrestrtr: it is so useful for me man -k , i only ask, if i have any chance to see all 1899 commands explanation line by line02:14
user-landit is on, fyrestrtr, during boot things get displayed there too, then flashes the nvidia logo for half a second, then the second monitor gets dark.02:14
bimberijosh__: have a look at unison too.  It's a file synchroniser that works over ssh.  runs on linux and windows (amongst others)02:14
PKR_how do you eject a cd?02:15
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user-landthis after i tried booting up with additional harddisks.02:15
trifirc: you would have to man each individual command02:15
josh__winscp wont connect either02:15
trifIRCMonkeyx, I've never seen a big summary list of each command02:15
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trifIRCMonkeyx, there are so many commands you will never need to use ever02:15
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PKR_doesnt the eject button on the cd player work in unbuntu?02:16
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trifpkr_: not until the disc is umounted02:16
fyrestrtrPKR_: sure, that's a hardware thing.02:16
bimberiPKR_: it works on my laptop (even if mounted) but not on my desktop :|02:16
IRCMonkeyxtrif: i just discovered it, i read untill d letter, than i am bored of writing man -k  <command> :)02:16
PKR_ok02:16
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PKR_i had to eject it on the computer02:17
fyrestrtruser-land: are you using twinview or xnerama?02:17
user-landfyrestrtr, i don't remember using any of them ...02:17
user-landhow can i check ?02:17
fyrestrtrjosh__: are you sure ports aren't being blocked?02:17
peejany comments on the strengths and weaknesses of dapper compared with fedora core 5?02:17
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fyrestrtruser-land: it'll be in your xorg.conf file02:18
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george_looneyhi fyrestrtr02:18
fyrestrtrpeej: you'll get pretty biased responses here.02:18
fyrestrtrpeej: one weakness ... rpm (imnsho)02:18
george_looneyfyrestrtr: I figured the way to do it :)02:18
bimberipeej: package/dependency management02:18
fyrestrtrgeorge_looney: cool :)02:18
josh__yeah... it makes an initial connection.... but failed during authentication... freenx said something about pam blah blah... someone else said port blocking but then after i told them it connects he said nevermind...02:19
george_looneyfyrestrtr: "STARTUP=startfluxbox startx" does the trick02:19
josh__i dont know02:19
Skaagwhere can I get help about printing in ubuntu?02:19
user-landTwinView, fyrestrtr.02:19
josh__something got really screwed up somewhere...02:19
peejfyrestrtr: way I see it, dapper is a longterm thing, well-supported. yeah, also the apt-get thing is a better mechanism. THe upgrade with apt tends to be more solid.02:19
bimberiSkaag: ask here, hopefully someone can help02:19
josh__i had alot of trouble trying to get it going on breezy too though...02:19
josh__whats up bimberi02:19
peejI guess I'm actually fishing for a reason why fc5 might be regarded as better than dapper - can't come up with one. Mebbe I should go to the fedora channel? ;-)02:19
josh__still in college?02:19
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fyrestrtruser-land: okay, and you didn't upgrade nvidia drivers or anything of the sort? What changed between then and now?02:20
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bimberijosh__: not since 1986 no :)02:20
trifpeej: if you're accustomed to redhat style config tools and directory layouts..02:20
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fyrestrtrpeej: one is, its more commerically supported.02:20
peejdunno if fc has clear demarcations of free vs non-free (the reason I like debian/ubuntu)02:20
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cocosis it possible to let gnome-terminal open in maximised window?02:20
fyrestrtrpeej: you'll find more vendor support for fc than you would for ubuntu, but that's changing.02:20
Skaagok I have a network printer, an OfficeJet 7400. I've set it up correctly, I think, with an ipp:// URL. I can ping the printer ok, and reach its web based information page. Cups shows the printer is ok and "ready", but jobs do not print, they say "printing" forever. Looking at the cups logs shows everything is "fine"... any ideas how to even start debugging this problem?02:21
triffedora core is way too big02:21
josh__bimberi: whazn't it you that was.....02:21
josh__oh wait02:21
josh__no that was jenda02:21
josh__lol02:21
josh__nevermind02:21
peejfyrestrtr : commercial support is better for fc ?02:21
josh__im a tard02:21
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bimberijosh__: hehe ;)02:21
rrpeej : FC5 has fedora directory server, which is a plus imho02:21
user-landfyrestrtr, i tried changing sources according to the post by hawkwind, but encountered a lot of errors, so i restored the easykubuntu sources and made an update/dist-upgrade.02:21
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fyrestrtrpeej: I said *vendor* support02:21
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rrpeej : about the only one i can thinkof really02:21
peejrr: what's fedora directory server ? a ldap type thing?02:21
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fyrestrtruser-land: think it might have borked your nvidia drivers02:21
user-landcould that have changed things ? only 3 kde-components were updated as far as i know.02:21
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peejfyrestrtr : point taken.02:22
ajmitchpeej: yes, and it's horrendous to try & build02:22
djwhyteHi, just recently (on the weekend) Update Manager pushed out a new kernel version for my Breezy box, and since then I seem to have had a hard lock up daily.  I am running 2.6.12-10-386, has anyone else noticed this?02:22
frogzoococos_: gnome-terminal --full-screen02:22
rranyone know of fedora directory server .deb packages ?02:22
user-landok, fyrestrtr, so i should reconfigure x ?02:22
fyrestrtruser-land: try re-installing the nvidia drivers.02:22
rrpeej : yeah , pretty good un tooo02:22
ajmitchrr: no, it's very near impossible to build properly & package02:22
josh__rr... fedora uses .rpms.... not .debs02:22
rrpeej : formally know as ehh , darn02:22
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fyrestrtrrr: since its (now) completely open source, you could download it and compile it if you were so inclined.02:23
alxarchhi, we want to deploy ubuntu in my university's computer lab can someone help me outwith a couplof questions i have?02:23
ajmitchrr: well, impossible to do without sitting down for quite awhile & fixing a number of issues02:23
josh__ust use alien02:23
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george_looneyalxarch: shoot02:23
frogzoorr: apt-cache search    is your friend02:23
cocos_frogzoo: works great but not really what i ment i mean maximized but between the 2 panels02:23
frogzoojosh__: only as a last resort02:23
pygi!patient02:23
rrfyrestrtr, cool i have a look around for it02:23
ubotuI know nothing about patient - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:23
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alxarchmy lab uses Active Directory and all the users (us the students) login through there02:24
fyrestrtrfyrestrtr: there is a excellent post on twinview in the forums (iirc)02:24
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rrajmitch : what issues ur havin ?02:24
_stev_how do I remove a program installed with apt-get?02:24
george_looneyalxarch: is it Windows 2003 or Windows 2000?02:24
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alxarchi found out a howto enableldap etc but i don't know how to make a pre-configured installation to deploy it on to allthe pc's02:24
ajmitchrr: the fact that it wants specific version of many libraries, and you have to compile half the known world to get that02:24
fyrestrtr_stev_: use synaptic to remove it, or apt-get remove whatever-package02:24
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alxarchwindows 200302:24
RandolphCarteris there any way to configure WPA (for wireless networks) during the installation?  it seems to only support WEP02:25
bimberi_stev_: apt-get remove <package>     (add --purge to remove config files as well)02:25
fyrestrtralxarch: you could try the oem tools, those might help.02:25
RandolphCarteralternate installation too, I think that might be my problem02:25
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rrajmitch : bummer, so ur almost forced to use FC/redhat to use FDS ?02:25
ajmitchrr: at the moment, yes02:25
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_stev_bimberi: ah ok -and it will also remove my .files in my home folder?02:26
alxarchyes but how do you pack the cd afterwards in order to pass it to all the 30 computers? i haven't found any how to for the OEM02:26
ajmitchrr: if I have a lot more spare time I'll look at packaging FDS02:26
rrajmitch : was it iplanet before ?02:26
bimberi_stev_: no02:26
fyrestrtralxarch: ah, you need the livecd generator-thing.02:26
ajmitchrr: netscape directory server02:26
_stev_bimberi: how do I do that?02:26
fyrestrtralxarch: let me see if I have it.02:26
peejwhat's the ubuntu equivalent of fedora directory server then? netscape directory server?02:26
rrajmitch : ahh k02:26
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RandolphCarterpeej: something like NIS?02:26
ajmitchpeej: we only have openldap02:26
george_looneyrr: it was Netscape Directory Server02:26
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frogzoopeej: ldap maybe ?02:27
alxarchdoes this saves all configurations?02:27
bimberi_stev_: manually (with rm).  or just leave them02:27
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peejis openldap kinda hard and mystical to set up (I have very little clue on ldap)02:27
_stev_bimberi: ah ok thx02:28
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CarinArrpeej, yes02:28
CarinArr;)02:28
rrpeej : not really know, but u might have to do some reading about ldap in general02:28
CarinArractually, i don't know if it is "relatively"02:28
user-landgreat support, fyrestrtr, thank you. it looks like i need to rerun easykubuntu.02:28
CarinArri'm just clueless when it comes to stuff like that and i found it a bit.. er.. odd02:28
ardchoilleajmitch: I have 11 computers and what I did was installed the system on one, updated it, then I used partimage to make an image of that one system, burned that image to DVD.. then used partimage along with the image I burned to install Ubuntu on the other 10 boxes. it worked great and puts an identical system on all the computers.02:29
peejthanks for all the clues. I have a better idea of things now, and can do further research by reading the fine manuals ;-)02:29
ardchoille!partimage > ajmitch02:29
ubotuI know nothing about partimage  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:29
fyrestrtralxarch: first, see -- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCD - that should get you started, and then -- you can try something a bit different in http://freshmeat.net/projects/gendistcrisol/02:29
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ajmitchardchoille: not me, alxarch :)02:29
rrajmitch : is there anything i can do to speed up the FDS conversion ?02:29
ardchoilleajmitch: oops, sorry02:30
er4z0ralways the same: what do you folks use for copying your precious dvds?02:30
ajmitchrr: not that I know of02:30
er4z0rk3b? dvd::rip?02:30
dyn-afkardchoille why not use a network installation server for those 11 machines?02:30
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ardchoilledyn-afk: they aren't entworked02:30
dyn-afk:P02:31
dyn-afknull modem cable :D02:31
fyrestrtrlol02:31
fyrestrtrgive it up dyn-afk02:31
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ardchoilleI didn't feel like running cable through a 4 story house, besides the install from an image took about 15 minutes per machine02:32
alxarchfyrestrtr: yes but i don't want a live cd, i want an installation cd02:32
rrajmitch : http://directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Howto:DebianUbuntu02:33
fyrestrtralxarch: I'm sure there is something out there for it -- I just can't find where I bookmarked it :(02:33
ajmitchrr: yes, and it just says to use alien02:33
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ajmitchrr: not at all useful for getting into the distro, sadly02:33
rrajmitch : yeah alien the pkg's02:33
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alxarchwhat i want is: configure aps/active directory/ gnome/etc on one machine and then somehow clone the installation on to th other machines02:33
rrajmitch : tried that with novell eDir, omg what i mess i got into :-(02:34
ardchoillealxarch: If the machines aren't networked, partimage will do exactly that02:34
josh__exit02:34
dyn-afkardchoille without a network an image is the best way to do it :P02:34
alxarchthey are networked they all belong to the lab domain02:34
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ardchoillealxarch: Then maybe dyn-afk can teach you how to clone them via network02:35
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alxarchi'm ready to learn....02:35
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alxarch:)02:35
ardchoilledyn-afk: you're up, lol02:36
dyn-afkso am I alxarch :P02:36
alxarch:)02:36
devani read that u need to intsall gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3's, but in synaptic it isnt there02:36
ardchoillehahahaha02:36
dyn-afkthe idea is that I'm gonna use my freebsd server as a remote install server02:37
dyn-afkhave to take a look at pxe and such02:37
_stev_what is the /var/cache/apt/archives? are that all my installed (installation) files? can I delete them?02:37
devani read that u need to intsall gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3's, but in synaptic it isnt there, can some1 please how me what i should do02:37
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alxarchso how do I setup an install server at my university's lab?02:38
ardchoilledevan: I installed xmms and it played mp3's without any need to install anything else02:38
er4z0r!extra repositories02:38
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devanoh ok, can i get xmms in synaptic?02:39
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dyn-afkI think you need something like RARP, TFTP and maybe NFS (if you want to do a full install from that server and not via internet)02:39
ardchoille!info xmms02:39
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB02:39
ardchoilledevan: yes02:39
dyn-afkwith my sun sparcstation 4 (without cdrom and floppy) I once managed to do somewhat of a network install02:39
axyjo!info supybot02:39
ubotusupybot: robust and user friendly Python IRC bot. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.83.1-1 (dapper), package size 446 kB, installed size 2896 kB02:39
dyn-afkI used rarp and tftp so the ss4 could boot the debian/openbsd netinstaller02:40
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alxarchhmmm... that isn't much helpful now is it?:)02:40
dyn-afkwith the netinstaller I did an install via internet, not via the network02:40
ardchoillealxarch: No, it isn't02:40
dyn-afkopenbsd has a manual about how to do that02:40
m_0_r_0_nAlthough the adobe reader 7.0 is listet in the plugin list, no pdf document will be opend. I alway get a blank website. Any idea what went wrong?02:40
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dyn-afkopenbsd netinstall << look for that and you'll get lot's of results02:41
dyn-afkthose results might aid you in creating a network install server02:41
dyn-afkalso, be sure to take a look at PXE02:41
ardchoilledyn-afk: But, this is *ubuntu8 support02:41
alxarchok i was hoping for sth abit easier....02:41
dyn-afkmachines nowadays use PXE to boot off a network02:41
rambo3great for non floppy non cd/dvd  computer install02:42
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dyn-afkthere are small differences in openbsd, debian, etc. when creating a network install server, there not that big so...those tutorials might be helpful02:42
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ardchoilleFunny how so much text can be typed by someone who is "afk"02:42
fyrestrtralxarch: fwiw, SLED has this option built-in02:42
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gatekeeperalxarch: these machines you are trying to clone are they all identical hardware?02:42
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dyn-afkafk = a brand, not just short for away from keyboard :P02:42
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alxarchSLED?02:42
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fyrestrtra brand of what?02:42
dyn-afksuse linux enterprise desktop = sled02:43
vipenHi, I have a problem with mounting my HDD... I've crashed the xorg.conf file so I've booted Ubuntu from the livecd so I could restore the backup but I can't access my HDD :(02:43
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fyrestrtrSuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop02:43
dyn-afkfedora cora also has this ability02:43
dyn-afkSUSE actually...all caps now02:43
dbzdeathhey i have a problem with wine sometimes it screws up and i kill the application that is running and then no more apps can be run by wine until i reboot could someone please help me?02:43
fyrestrtrthere is an option right there in the installer to 'clone this system' to do unattended installs.02:43
alxarchwell not al of them but the majority of them02:43
rambo3too much ot now02:43
dyn-afkfedora has a special name for it02:43
ardchoilledyn-afk: Can we keep on topic please?02:43
Botkillerhi guys, I'm new to ubuntu and have it on my server since today. But ./ doesn't seem to work :S02:43
threathey02:43
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neutrinomassvipen: You could fix it without the livecd with 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' 2. What's the problem with mounting the hdd ?02:43
rrFyre : u mean the supudupa "sutoyast" option ?02:44
alxarchso u suggest to install suse instead of ubuntu?02:44
fyrestrtrdbzdeath: best you ask in #winehq02:44
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rr"autoyast" even02:44
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dyn-afkmind you ardchoille that this is basic stuff for every distribution02:44
threatis there c/c++ devel package I can install that installs compilers, and manpages for std c functions?02:44
fyrestrtrrr: don't know what its called, but I just remembered it was there.02:44
dyn-afkit doesn't matter which one you have ;)02:44
neutrinomassthreat: 'aptitude install build-essential' ?02:44
vipenOkay..... It says02:44
vipenerror: device /dev/hda1 is not removable02:44
vipenerror: could not execute pmount02:44
fyrestrtrthreat: sudo apt-get build-essential02:44
threatneutrinomass, oh, I have that installed already :\02:45
profoX`how do i remove the auto focus on message, in gaim?02:45
larsdbzdeath: ps aux |grep wine says?02:45
dyn-afkah, fedora calls it stateless linux..if you look for that you'll also find plenty of resources for creating a network installation server02:45
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devanardcholie,hey installing xmms didnt work, i still cant play mp3's02:45
dyn-afkprofoX` take a look at your gaim prefs :)02:45
alxarchso to resumeit all: i install ubuntu on one machine and then i use the suse installation disk to clone that machine all over the place? that sounds awkward....02:45
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neutrinomassvipen: Hm... not sure what's wrong. ..you can still boot from the hard disk can't you ?02:45
profoX`dyn-afk: i did.. didn't find it really ._. i'll check again, is it in there?02:46
neutrinomassubotu, tell devan about mp302:46
fyrestrtralxarch: I meant to say, maybe ubuntu isn't the right distro for it.02:46
threatneutrinomass, hmmm, I just looked at the package-list for build-essential,  it doesn't install any dev's or manpages for C functions,  any other ideas?02:46
dyn-afkyup, it's there profoX`02:46
alxarchaH! ok...02:46
MusicEatingPandaI just got notice that Firefox is to be updated by my notifyer....it wants to install 1.0.8 when i have 1.5 installed what do i do?02:46
vipenneutrinomass: No... It comes with some sort of errorpage...02:46
threatlars, grep -i wine probably02:46
Botkillerexcuse me for asking, but maybe someone can help me with the following : I'm trying to install a cs server on my dedicated server with ubuntu 64 on it. But with multiple apps ./ doesn't work, i get -bash: ./steam : no such file or directory. But the steam exec is in that dir02:47
dyn-afkfyrestrtr ubuntu can do the same...all distro's can02:47
devanneutrinomass, it says i should isntall gstremer0.8-mad for mp3's to work but it isnt in synaptic02:47
alxarchyes but HOW?02:47
Hexidigital!universe > devan02:47
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dyn-afkif you want to create an image do what ardchoille did02:48
neutrinomassvipen: What error? If all you messed up was xorg.conf, it should still be bootable. If it isn't, deeper issues are involved ...02:48
Botkillercan anyone help? can't find the solution via google :S02:48
fyrestrtrdyn-afk: but how easy is it? That's what it comes down to, doesn't it?02:48
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dyn-afkI think that if you want to use the image way via a network you need to look into something as NFS to share the image02:48
threatmanpages-posix-dev ??02:48
threatwould that be it?02:48
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neutrinomassthreat: Yeah, probably.02:49
ardchoilleBotkiller: What is the exact filename of the steam exec?02:49
fyrestrtrdyn-afk: I'm not aware of any unattended install options that come with ubuntu02:49
gatekeeperalxarch: if you know which files are required to configure what you need, you could use tar02:49
dyn-afkwww.instalinux.org would be a great site for you fyrestrtr02:49
Botkillerardchoille : just steam02:49
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vipenneutrinomass: Something with X if I rembember right... And the it boots in something like CMD (windows)02:49
neutrinomassthread: I can't tell for sure, I'm on a crippled system right now :( But I don't remember explicitly installing that, and I still had the man pages (I guess they come as part of the libc documentation.... )02:49
ardchoilleBotkiller: is it steam or Steam?02:49
fyrestrtrdyn-afk: I'm not the one trying to deploy it, but thanks for caring :)02:49
Botkillerjust steam, all lower case02:49
threatneutrinomass, :\02:50
dyn-afkonline unattended install creator for nearly all distro's :P02:50
alxarchno there are hundreds of files all over the system, can't do that02:50
ardchoilleBotkiller: Then you may not be inside the correct directory02:50
threatneutrinomass, my name is threat :)02:50
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threatneutrinomass, although alot of people make that mistake, I may as well just add thread to my highlight list :)02:50
Botkillerardchoille : yes I am, I downloaded it to /home/mike/steam and when i ls it shows in there02:50
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fyrestrtrBotkiller: make sure its executable02:50
neutrinomassvipen: Oh, but it still boots then. Try logging in from the terminal, and do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. That will probably fix it....02:50
profoX`thank dyn-afk :)02:51
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Botkillerit has always been an exec :s how can I make sure?02:51
profoX`for the gaim.. help02:51
dyn-afkhttp://www.instalinux.com/ << the correct link, it's not .org :P02:51
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ardchoilleBotkiller: Can you do: ls -lha /home/mike/steam and post the output to pastebin?02:51
vipenneutrinomass: Okay... Hope it works, and thanks for the help02:51
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Botkillersure, moment plz02:51
fyrestrtrBotkiller: ls -l -- check the permissions02:51
neutrinomassthreat: Yeah sorry. Just a moment - I'll look up the documentation thing ...02:51
ardchoillefyrestrtr: That's what I was gonna do :P02:52
dyn-afkhttp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Network-Install-HOWTO.html << this also might give you some idea on how to setup a network install server02:52
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neutrinomassthreat: glibc-doc ? I'm not sure about dapper though, this is on breezy....02:52
alxarchso i'll keep on searching... but if suse can do it easilly i'll have to use that instead02:52
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fyrestrtrthreat: most docs are already there, what do you need, a tutorial?02:52
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alxarchbut i thought that the OEM install mode was made to serve dployment purposes02:53
Botkillerardchoille : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1886102:53
fyrestrtralxarch: I think it takes care of customization, but not deployment.02:53
neutrinomassfyrestrtr : He wants the manpages for libc functions from what I understood.... which should be there in the first place as you pointed out :-/ Unless it's an expert install probably ...02:53
NthDegreeOEM is for Retailers to preinstall ubuntu so the user can set it up his/her way on first boot02:53
alxarchand i can't find any examples or howto's in th help pages of ubuntu02:53
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dyn-afkoem install mode does the same thing alxarch: you need to create an image02:53
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fyrestrtrneutrinomass: I think even with the expert install, they should still be there.02:54
quietalxarch, OEM install would be if you were building a computer for someone... you can set it up, customize it, install all updates, any extra software, then run the OEM utility and will erase all user history... upon the next boot it will set up a new user name and such...02:54
dyn-afkif you know Windows you can compare it to installing a system dan use sysprep and afterwards you create an image02:54
alxarchyes but retailers aren't going to install the extra packages on every machine indepentantly02:54
quietalxarch, it's similar to SYSPREP for windows.02:54
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dyn-afkthat's what the oem install does02:54
threatneutrinomass, thanx, I am getting libc-doc now02:54
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threatfyrestrtr, I need to man strftime()  and other such C functions02:54
neutrinomassfyrestrtr : An expert server install didn't even install 'man' on this box, but this is with 5.04 :-/02:54
threatfyrestrtr, I program in C/C++, well I try to :P02:55
ardchoilleBotkiller: Is that the only output you got from  ls -lha /home/mike/steam ?02:55
alxarchhowyes but how do i make this image on ubuntu?02:55
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fyrestrtrneutrinomass: geez :(02:55
dyn-afkthe oem function is in between the use of an unattended install and on image02:55
quietOEM + Symantec Ghost alxarch02:55
_stev_how do I get my total used size of all partions together?02:55
dyn-afkit personalises the image02:55
fyrestrtrthreat: try sudo apt-get install gcc-doc02:55
Botkilleryes, only one file in the dir, as it should be before installation :)02:55
user-landhello fyrestrtr, my system is borked ... i am on the livecd would like to mount the former root partition to move the /home dir to a new partition, but it does not mount in nautilus, saying not removable, could not execute pmount.02:55
alxarchso i' ll use ghost?02:55
quietalxarch, if you have it, you can use ghost, yes.02:55
dyn-afkalxarch you can use any image creator from symantec/norton, acronis, etc.02:56
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Whatsisname_stev_, you could probably write a simple perl script to calculate that02:56
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dyn-afkthough trueimage is a bit more picky then ghost02:56
fyrestrtruser-land: what does the disk manager tell you?02:56
alxarchbut how am i going to be sure it does dual booting etc properly for every machine?02:56
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jipihey02:56
Smjor_stev_, cant you use "df -m"?02:56
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fyrestrtr_stev_: disk manager should tell you that02:56
quietalxarch, testing.02:56
ardchoilleBotkiller: Yes, but ls -lha should have shown you the filename at the end, not the directory path ;)02:56
jipihow wouldi i got about running ssh on this computer, so i can acsess it from a windows ssh shell program?02:56
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alxarchu seethe pc's also have windows on them....02:56
dyn-afkalxarch you restore the image on a machine02:56
dyn-afkthen reboot it02:56
quiet^^02:57
fyrestrtrjipi: sudo apt-get install openssh-server02:57
jipithanks man02:57
dyn-afkthe oem installer will start again and it'll ask you the same setup questions02:57
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dyn-afkit's just a quicker way of setting up a machine02:57
quietdyn-afk, if you're doing company deployment... you don't need to use OEM, really.02:57
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Botkillerardchoille : mad a mistake, it's still in /home/mike (just checked if that was the prob, but still same error)02:57
Botkillermade*02:57
dyn-afknah, you're prolly better off using an unattended network installation using a network install server quiet02:57
minimecjipi: Read the man-page of the openssh-server ;) There you have the explanations to create the keys ;)02:58
dyn-afkbut if the machines are identical then oem install might do02:58
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quietexactly.02:58
ardchoilleBotkiller: so ./steam from the home dir should work02:58
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Botkillerno it doesn't02:58
Whatsisnameyou know, anyone happen to have a link handy to any info about how to customize the default configuations of the LiveCD's?02:58
Whatsisnamelike to make a custom LiveCD for a specific purpose02:58
dyn-afklooking at management of images and such, unattended installations are much better02:58
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ardchoilleBotkiller: Then it's not set to be executable, that's my guess02:58
JenkinsDoes anybody know if Ubuntu 6.06 LTS supports drivers for Wireless Cards by Broadcom?02:58
dyn-afkunattended install is far easier to manage02:59
Botkillerhow can I set it to executable than? :S02:59
quietJenkins, it comes with ndiswrapper, and it works well.02:59
fyrestrtrWhatsisname: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCD02:59
WhatsisnameBotkiller, run chmod +x filename02:59
ardchoilleBotkiller: chmod u+x filename02:59
Jenkinshow would one use ndiswrapper to install the drivers?02:59
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quietJenkins, it uses the windows .inf and .sys02:59
ardchoilleGotta go, bbiab02:59
fyrestrtr!broadcom > Jenkins02:59
quietJenkins, i have a broadcom 431802:59
dyn-afkinstall  ndiswrapper and use the graphical tool02:59
SmjorWhatsisname :02:59
Smjor<threat> neutrinomass, althou02:59
dyn-afkmake sure you have the drivers unpacked02:59
Smjorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo02:59
Whatsisnamefyrestrtr, that page really doesn't have much info lol02:59
Whatsisnameoh well02:59
quietJenkins, apt-get install ndiswrapper ndiswrapper-utils && ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5a.inf && modprobe ndiswrapper.03:00
quietboom, works.03:00
dyn-afkthen browse for the .inf file with the graphical ndiswrapper tool03:00
Botkillerardchoille : you're never gonna believe this - still doesn't work03:00
quietthere is a graphical ndiswrapper tool?03:00
quietew.03:00
quietwhy?03:00
dyn-afkyup03:00
Jenkinsim a newbie to Linux lol03:00
dyn-afkto make things easier :P03:00
SmjorWhatsisname --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo03:00
quietmakes sense, i 'spose.03:00
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dyn-afkSystem > Administration > Windows Wireless Drivers03:00
Whatsisnamehmm03:00
Whatsisnamethat only applies to 5.10 it says03:01
dyn-afkonce you installed ndiswrapper in synaptics, you'll get that tool03:01
minimecJenkins: there is a package ndiswrapper-tools (probalby you have to activate uni- and multiverse)03:01
Whatsisnameisn't the 6.06 live and install cd one and the same now03:01
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dyn-afkactivating universe and multiverse is a good idea anyway03:01
Whatsisnamei would expect changing livecd settings would be similar to the unattended installation sorta setup03:01
Smjor*err* my mistake03:01
quietno, it's ndiswrapper-utils  not -tools03:01
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Terminusmeh, i replicated a debian install with cp -a. works fine. :)03:02
minimecdyn-afk: I can agree with you ...03:02
WhatsisnameTerminus, needs more cp -ax03:02
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_stev_Whatsisname: ah ok , df -h doesn't give me the total used off all partitions, I just thought that there was an option that slipped my mind03:02
Botkilleris there also another command to run executables with?03:02
Whatsisname_stev_, I don't think there is03:02
JenkinsOk, well first let me install Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on my laptop then i'll try to figure out the wireless issue03:02
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Whatsisnameyou'll have to write a script i think03:02
SmjorWhatsisname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e1003:02
Botkiller:/03:02
quietactually.. alxarch... if all you're wanting to do is duplicate the hard drive...  dd would work..  if the systems are the same.03:02
threatSmjor, huh?03:02
WhatsisnameBotkiller, different kinds of executables are run with different s03:02
Whatsisnamestuff03:02
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alxarchdd?03:02
quieti did that for 20 identical HP workstations.03:02
TerminusWhatsisname: i did it a different way, i recreated all the mount points first. that way, i didn't need -x. :)03:03
dyn-afkdd = diskdump03:03
dyn-afkit's like ghost's 1-on-1 diskcopy03:03
Botkillerwell, on red hat and fedore ./steam worked perfectly, but on ubuntu it does not, while I do the same order :S03:03
quietdd if=/dev/hda of=/some/network/share/disk.img03:03
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quietthen boot a live cd on the system tobe imaged..   dd if=/some/network/share/disk.img of=/dev/hda03:03
alxarchand how do i put it on the new machine aftrwards?03:03
quietit will do an EXACT copy03:04
WhatsisnameSmjor, that looks like the info I was looking for, thank you03:04
alxarcheasy03:04
quietit is.03:04
quietbut03:04
quietthe machine needs to be exactly the same03:04
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minimecJenkins: /part03:04
quietif nothing else, exactly the same hard drive size MIGHT work.03:04
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quietnever tried that though.03:04
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alxarchthe machines will be the same03:05
SmjorWhatsisname, you're welcome!03:05
alxarchi am not sure about the partition sizes though03:05
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n2obwhat's the command to rewrite grub to mbr03:05
Whatsisnamewhen doing a dd transfer03:05
Whatsisnamethe partition sizes have to be exactly the same03:05
fyrestrtrn2ob: grub-install03:05
Whatsisnameotherwise Bad Things can and will happen03:05
quietWhatsisname, they WILL be exactly the same03:05
quietlol03:05
n2obfyrestrtr, thankyou03:05
quietif you use dd...03:05
quietit will rewrite the partition table.03:06
Whatsisnamenot necessarily03:06
quietso, if you are dual booting windows... you should run sysprep on windows before you dd with linux03:06
alxarchso since i am going to be the one who's going to formthow do i make the partitions EXACTLY sam size?03:06
Whatsisnameif you do a dd on a partition03:06
fyrestrtralxarch: man, just use ghost03:06
Botkillercan there be anything else the problem? with ./steam shit03:06
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quieti didn't say dd on the partition.03:06
fyrestrtralxarch: you are over engineering the problem.03:06
quieti said dd on hda03:06
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Jenkinsquiet did you get my message?03:07
quietalxarch, dd hda1 will just do that partition... (need to make partitions exactly the same size)   dd on hda with make an image of the disk itself.03:07
quietJenkins, i don't believe so?03:07
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Jenkinshmmm i dont know how to tell if it is working lol03:07
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perry_when I try to start bittorrent, it asks me for the location of the metafile03:08
Jenkinsah, says PM's from unregistered users are not allowed03:08
Jenkinsdue to spam issues03:08
elkbuntuhow can i re-enable formatting in thunderbird after enigmail has disabled it?03:08
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Botkillerardchoille?03:08
perry_where is this metafile?03:08
alxarchso: i install windows, then i install linux and then i do dd03:09
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quietfirst run sysprep on windows.03:09
quietyou need sysprep to regen the security IDs for windows..03:09
alxarchwhat for?03:09
quietelse it causes network problems.03:09
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perry_when I try to start bittorrent, it asks me for the location of the metafile...where do I find it?03:10
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mjrperry_, the .torrent file is the metafile03:10
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rambo3prollu Desktop03:10
Socrate_academydoes ubuntu server have a visual desktop enviroment?03:10
alxarchthis sysrep thing confuses me03:10
quietSocrate_academy, not by default03:10
MatthewVSocrate_academy, not on default install03:10
Ramunashow do i change my mysql password?03:10
fyrestrtrSocrate_academy: no, but you can install one.03:10
elkbuntuSocrate_academy, no, but yout can install one03:10
WhatsisnameSocrate_academy, not by default03:10
stefg!torrent > perry_03:10
quietSocrate_academy, but it can be turned into ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu with a single command.03:11
fyrestrtrRamunas: #mysql03:11
Socrate_academytnks for the quick response :p03:11
perry_thanks steg03:11
oskudeSocrate_academy: x window system is mostly not wanted on servers...03:11
lens_all of the sudden my Dapper install is running pretty sluggish... what can I do?03:11
perry_stefg rather :P03:11
Smjoralxarch, sysprep is used to "seal" windows-systems03:11
Socrate_academyquiet: how can i do that?03:11
quietSocrate_academy, apt-get install [ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu] -desktop03:11
alxarchseal thm from what viruses? hahahhahaha03:11
Whatsisnamelens_, too little info provided :(03:11
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perry_brb03:11
Smjorhehe03:11
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Socrate_academygoing to try that :p brb with an answe :D03:11
fyrestrtralxarch: seal it for a new person to boot it up.03:11
fyrestrtralxarch: or for deployment03:12
oskudelens: you could see in terminal with "ps aux" if there are processes taking up the whole cpu...03:12
Smjoralxarch, its basically an OEM-tool03:12
Smjornot something end-users come in contact with03:12
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fyrestrtrI think you have to install a reskit just to get it, iirc.03:12
lens_Whatsisname well, when I press buttons, it's about a 5 second delay before they actually press in... I saw a Kubuntu program to clean junk files... would it be OK to run in Gnome?03:13
fyrestrtrlens_: how much ram do you have, and how much free disk space?03:13
Whatsisnameit would probably be ok to run but it probably wouldn't do anything useful03:13
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Whatsisnamelens_: fire up a terminal, run the comnand03:13
Whatsisnametop03:13
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alxarchok so once more the procedure: i install windows on hda1,i configure it, i sysrep it, then i install linux on hda2, i configure it, then i dd hda and sav it on a network drive and with the live cd i go around the pc's and dd the hda image on to the other(identical) ps's right?03:14
Whatsisnamesee if anything strange is eating too much cpu03:14
oskudelens_: files on the hd are not supposed to make a system slower (atleast not in ubuntu)03:14
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lens_I only have 15 gigs free... that must be it, how do I find the big files on my system?03:14
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Socrate_academyquiet: i get an error message saying: "Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop" :s03:15
oskudelens_: lol, only 15g, my whole hd is 20gb and i got dualboot. as i said files on hd DONT make system slower...03:15
Smjoralxarch, yes. when you have installed windows, press "ctrl+shift+F3" to bypass OEM deal. Modify windows, sysprep will be running on the desktop (self-explainatory).03:15
fyrestrtrSocrate_academy: have you updated apt?03:15
quietumm...i thoguht that was it.. try apt-cache search desktop03:15
Socrate_academybrb03:15
Whatsisname15 gig free is plenty03:15
fyrestrtr!info ubuntu-desktop03:15
ubotuubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.119 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB03:15
Whatsisnamemost of the time I'd be lucky to have 2-3 gig free out of 50003:15
vipenneutrinomass: It worked... I can boot from my HDD now... Thanks03:15
Smjoralxarch, I mean, to bypass EULA.03:16
alxarcha ok03:16
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dyn-afkalxarch make sure you run sysprep and absolutely do not boot into windows anymore once you've run it !03:16
dyn-afkbecause if you do sysprep will rerun a small portion of the windows installation03:16
lens_oskude... oh well 15 out of 70... hrm... ok, so that's pry not it... but what would cause a delay I have a gig of memory I believe.03:16
dyn-afkit'll ask for things like computername, domain, etc.03:16
Whatsisnamequiet, ubuntu-desktop is corret03:16
Smjordyn-afk, he can boot into it multiple times, as long as he seals it when done, can't he?03:16
quietwee03:17
alxarchso i bypass the eula on the first blue screens (sic) of the windows installation?03:17
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Smjoralxarch, yes!03:17
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dyn-afkno Smjor03:17
Whatsisnamehe must have somehow mistyped it or something03:17
alxarch?03:17
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dyn-afkyou install sysprep, run it, shutdown windows and finally create the image03:17
Socrate_academyquiet i got a list of like 8 packages03:17
oskudelens_: run the command "top" in terminal and see if some process is using all of the cpu (or add system monitor to the gnome panel, to see cpu usage all the time)03:17
Socrate_academy:|03:17
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dyn-afkif you reboot instead of shutdown you'll have to start from scratch03:17
alxarchy/n? :S03:17
Smjoralxarch, ok, what dyn-afk is saying is, that you can only bypass onece, and reseal once.03:17
Whatsisnamelens run top like I said03:17
quietSocrate_academy, apt-get update    you did that, correct?03:18
lens_oskude, sounds like a good start. :)03:18
dyn-afkmeaning: install windows, update, etc. etc. etc.03:18
damo22do i need Xgl to be able to launch truely transparent windows?03:18
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oskudelens_: i could think "updatedb" is running in background, or so...03:18
dyn-afktake a look at the sysprep documentation03:18
s_spiffanyone tried installing wine on dapper amd64?03:18
dyn-afkthere you'll find the same info03:18
Socrate_academyquiet i dont have a i-net connection on tha pc03:18
lens_ok, I'll do the top thing and I'll use the applet03:18
alxarchbut a lot of updates and program installations on windows require reboot....03:18
Whatsisnamedamo22, if something was truely transparent it would be invisibe03:18
quietSocrate_academy, then how the HELL were you going to install ubuntu desktop??03:18
dyn-afkdamo22 yes you need xgl+compiz for true transparancy03:18
Whatsisname;)03:18
Smjordyn-afk, are you a windoze sysadmin or something.-p03:18
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alxarchlol03:19
Socrate_academyquiet i have a cd03:19
dyn-afkI'm a sysadmin, just graduated :P03:19
dyn-afkbut I ran into problems03:19
quietyou have what cd?03:19
Smjorcongrats!03:19
oskudelens_: the applet only shows the cpu usage, not the processes using it, but top does03:19
fyrestrtralxarch: the idea is, you run sysprep after the system is setup the way you want.03:19
quietubuntu server?03:19
dyn-afkI foudn out the hardware why you need to run sysprep :P03:19
quietthat doesn't have ubuntu-desktop on it.03:19
dyn-afk*hardway03:19
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alxarchok03:19
damo22dyn-afk i followed the wiki on xgl and im using beerorkid sources, but my x server crashes03:19
lens_K thanks, I'm working on it.03:19
damo22im using fglrx03:19
Smjoralxarch, integrate the updates you need (KB8blabla, SP2 etc) on the install cd.03:20
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Socrate_academyquiet i've burned this iso imaged ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso03:20
fyrestrtrdyn-afk: noob03:20
alxarchnlite?03:20
dyn-afkif you run a windows domain server you can only join a security/machine ID once03:20
fyrestrtr:P03:20
quietSocrate_academy, you have no ubuntu-desktop then.03:20
Smjoralxarch, yes, i.e.03:20
Socrate_academygoddamit03:20
quiet^03:20
dyn-afkso if you use ghost and you need to join 2 of those machines into a domain server and they all have the same machine/securityid things go mad :P03:20
quietwhatare you going to with linux without an 'inet connection anyways?03:20
quietlol03:20
vipenI have some problems with enabling widescreen on my laptop... I've just tried to fix it myself, but it just crashed my com instead :( I have an Intel 82852/82855 graphics adapter.... Anybody able to help me?03:21
Smjordyn-afk, tried that once:-)03:21
alxarchok i'll check it out tomorrow.03:21
dyn-afkin the end, I had to reinstall every machine03:21
quiet^ yep03:21
quietbeen there.03:21
dyn-afkjust 12 machines...03:21
damo22dyn-afk: can any wm run with xgl+compiz? eg wmii03:21
quietdyn-afk, well actually03:21
cga!avidemux03:21
ubotuI know nothing about avidemux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:21
Whatsisnamequiet, theres many things you could do with linux with no internet03:21
quietyou can run sysprep after the image03:21
dyn-afkluckely it wasn't in a real life situation03:21
quietit's just dumb.03:21
cga!avi03:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:21
dyn-afkthose machine were for a crashcourse in Citrix03:21
quietWhatsisname, i know..i was being facetious.03:21
dyn-afkdamo22 I don't know about that03:22
dyn-afkI only use gnome and I haven't looked at other wm's03:22
Smjordamo22, isn't xgl/compiz wm-independent?03:22
dyn-afkquiet the sysprep documentation tells you not to03:22
dyn-afkthings just screw up if you do03:22
alxarchi'll have to check with the lab's staff to see how do they replicate the windows installations03:22
quietdyn-afk, yeah... it's not very good..  but i have made it work when necessary.03:23
dyn-afkthe proper way of doing it: install sysprep, run it, shutdown the computer completely, create the image03:23
quietyes.03:23
damo22smjor, probably... i need to get xgl working without crashing03:23
alxarchand if they are using diskimages i'll just hold them until i configure the linux on the mother-disk03:23
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dyn-afkif you don't you'll get the same weird problems if you just simply don't use sysprep :P03:23
Smjordamo22, XGL/compiz talks directly to X, has its "own " wm-thingy in gnome at least. Disables metacity here..03:24
dyn-afkisn't that just compiz smjor?03:24
damo22smjor, i just want to use xgl i think, i dont even want compiz, just the ability to launch transparent urxvts03:24
alxarchso sysrep is th like m$oft saying: i won't let you install preconfigured windows with the same cd-key on mutiple machines?03:24
SmjorHmm, you might be right. I don't understand why anyone wants it anyway---03:25
quietdamo22, you can do fake transparency with urxvt03:25
Smjordamo22, yep, thats easier.03:25
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n2obdoes anyone know good sites for start to learn about network (linux)?03:25
Smjorlook at elive i.e.03:25
Smjorelive has fake transparency in urxvt03:26
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dyn-afkno alxarch03:26
XplOzIonFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release <-- any other repo i can use as i need to set up a server and i need apache and some other stuff03:26
dyn-afkit's like useraccounts...every account has a unique number03:26
damo22quiet: i compiled rxvt-unicode from cvs, but when i run urxvt -tr i get fully transparent, but id like % opaque03:26
dyn-afkso does every machineaccount03:26
cavediverHi. What's the way to remove the annoying frame going across the screen when opening a program from the top-bar.03:26
stefg!easysource03:26
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:26
alxarchSmjor: yr nick sounds like "Es mejor" in spanish....(totally irrelevant)03:26
cavediverIf you have it as a button.03:26
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quietdamo22, use shade.03:26
XplOzIonthanks stefg03:27
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dyn-afkyou'll only run into trouble when you're using something like a domain or when you're going to share files over a network03:27
cavediveri know it can be removes, can't figure out how I did it though03:27
alxarchbut i am03:27
dyn-afkbecause there are more computers with the same "unique" number03:27
dyn-afkif it's the same, it isn't unique anymore03:27
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Smjoralxarch, hehe, doesn't mean nothing remotely like that in norwegian:-)03:27
alxarchso i have to sysrep in order for the domain to work properly03:27
Jenkinsthis Linux business is givin me a headache.. just getting it to install is a task lol03:27
dyn-afkin case of a domain it's done because of the security of the domain03:27
vipenI have some problems with enabling widescreen on my laptop... I've just tried to fix it myself, but it just crashed my com instead :( I have an Intel 82852/82855 graphics adapter.... Anybody able to help me?03:27
alxarchSmjor: Es mejor= It is better03:28
dyn-afkso it's not because of things like WGA03:28
oskudeJenkins: dualboot ?03:28
Jenkinsyes Dualboot03:28
fyrestrtrvipen: tried 915resolution ?03:28
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oskudeJenkins: well, for dualboot you need more knowledge...03:28
JenkinsWinXP and Ubuntu 6.0603:28
JenkinsI'm not familiar with Linux at ALL lol03:28
vipenfyrestrtr: What do you mean? I'm quite new Linux-user...03:28
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JenkinsWindows XP on the other hand.. lol03:28
oskudeJenkins: are you familiar with partitions ?03:29
Jenkinsyes i am familiar with partitions03:29
damo22quiet: do i use -tr with -sh 50% or something03:29
Jenkinsi just didnt know this install needed 3 for itself03:29
SmjorJenkins, use Partition Magic before you install03:29
fyrestrtrvipen: there is a package called 915resolution that helps with resolution issues on intel based video cards. Also, see !fixres03:29
Jenkinsi use the Partitioning software on the CD03:29
fyrestrtr!fixres03:29
quietdamo22, something like that... the man page should tell you. i don't use transparency.03:29
SuperMigueldoes any one know how to intall frostwire03:29
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:29
Jenkinsthat came with Ubuntu03:29
cavediverNoone have the fix for that ?03:29
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vipenfyrestrtr: Okay, I'll take a look at that ;)03:29
alxarchbut i found it strange that i didn't find a howto or sth on that, i think it's a very common situation for universities, offices etc.03:29
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SmjorJenkins, it only needs two. / and /swap03:29
s_spiffanyone knows how to edit the fstab so that a master hdd [ 80gb ]  [ubuntu installed on 120 slave hdd ]  is mounted at boot? i cannot find anything on it in wiki03:29
cavediverIt can't be just me that wants it disablked03:29
SuperMiguelthe first / is ext303:30
oskudeJenkins: you need minimum only 2 partitions... as Smjor said..03:30
Jenkinshmmm03:30
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fyrestrtrSuperMiguel: download the deb, the sudo dpkg -i Froswire-blahlbal.deb -- then make sure you install Java (see !java) and you run it.03:30
Jenkinsi thought it needed one for swap, /, and ext303:30
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SuperMiguelnope03:30
SuperMigueljust 203:30
Jenkinsk03:30
SuperMiguelthe other one is the windows03:30
SmjorJenkins ext3 is the file system on /03:30
oskudeJenkins: ext3 is a format, like fat32 and ntfs03:30
Jenkinswelp i have 4 total partitions now i think lol03:30
Jenkins3 for this linux install and 1 windows03:30
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SuperMiguelthats fine03:31
dyn-afk<Jenkins> i just didnt know this install needed 3 for itself << you need only 1 (the /), swap is recommended however, in that case you'll need 203:31
oskudeJenkins: is that one partition extended partition ? do you know what that is ?03:31
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SuperMigueldoes any one know how to install frostwire??03:31
dyn-afkproblem with x86 is de limitation in primary partitions03:31
SmjorJenkins, dyn-afk is right, /swap is not *really* necessary03:31
dyn-afkyou can only have 4 of those03:31
Jenkinsi have all them as primary03:31
s_spiffguys how do i extract .rar files?03:31
quietSuperMiguel, what the eff is frostwire?03:32
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Jenkinsim about to just say forget it and get rid of all my partitions and put NTFS03:32
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dyn-afka logical drive (as DOS/Windows calls it) is also a primary partition03:32
Jenkinsi think the installer froze anyways lol03:32
Smjor"/swap" is like the sidefile in windows03:32
dyn-afkeverything in that logical drive isn't03:32
argundaanyone here know where trash folder is in xubuntu?03:32
jakehi everyone anyone know how to set file permissions on ububtu03:32
linus001just make an extended partition, then add a swap inside it.03:32
dyn-afkin a logical drive you can have as many partitions as you want :)03:32
oskudejake: chmod03:33
Smjorargunda, try ~/.Trash03:33
argundak03:33
_stev_my login screen won't come up anymore after a installed another window manager, it is just that after giving my login and psswd, I stiil have to give my startx command to get Xup and running03:33
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dyn-afklinus001 you mean swap as a file ?03:33
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Jenkinsok let me redo this whole ubuntu install03:33
quietdyn-afk, but logical drives still require at leastone primary03:33
Jenkinsreboting now03:33
Jenkinsrebooting*03:33
dyn-afkjup03:33
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jakewhat like chmod 777 or 755?03:33
CarinArr_stev_, what window manager did you install?03:33
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bilss_hi folks03:33
oskudeJenkins: i hope youre not trying to resize any ntfs partitions...03:33
dyn-afka logical drive is a primary partition, so that leaves 303:33
_stev_CarinArr: ion303:33
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Jenkinsno, i have my NTFS all alone with half of my HDD with unallocated space03:34
linus001no03:34
cgaanyone here knows which repo should i use (if any) to install avidemux?03:34
oskudeJenkins: ok, sounds good03:34
CarinArrjake, that changes permissions for files.. try man chmod03:34
SmjorJenkins, good, cause resizing NTFS in *nix is fishy03:34
quietcga, aptitude search avidemux ?03:34
Jenkinsresizing any NTFS partition w/o corrupting windows is a task lol03:34
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dyn-afkcga: I don't know which one but it is always a good idea to enable the universe and multiverse repos03:34
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CarinArr_stev_, do you get a graphical login prompt (i.e. gdm) or do you get a console one?03:35
dyn-afksince a lot of programs people want are in those 2 repos03:35
Jenkinsi don't know a damn thing about linux lol thats why im here for assistance03:35
bilss_got a pipe command question take a look here http://pastebin.ca/9959103:35
cgaquiet, i'm using adpet and it is not there03:35
linus001what are you using to set up your partitions?03:35
cgadyn-afk, they are already there thanks03:35
quietwhat is an adpet?03:35
dyn-afkJenkins not if you resize it using partition magic :)03:35
oskudeJenkins: you came to the right (when not even the best) place :)03:35
Smjor_stev_, try" sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"03:35
jakeproblem is i have ubuntu setup using webmin as control panel but every time i run a cmd in line says permission denied03:35
Jenkinslinux001, i am using the partitioning program that is on the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS CD/DVD03:35
dyn-afkcga do you use the add/remove programs tool?03:35
_stev_CarinArr: I've had a grafical one and now it is a console03:35
dyn-afkif so, make sure you enable commercial software and unsupported software03:35
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cgadyn-afk, ohps.. no i'm on kubuntu actually :P03:36
dyn-afkJenkins that would be gparted03:36
dyn-afkit's limited if you compare it to partition magic03:36
CarinArr_stev_, did you uninstall gdm?03:36
bilss_DBO: hope your asleep!03:36
Jenkinswell its not like i am partitioning a fully partitioned NTFS03:36
linus001it still works well though03:36
dyn-afkcga you might do the same with the kubuntu package manager03:36
CarinArror gnome03:36
Jenkinsi left myself space last time i formatted ;)03:36
Smjordyn-afk, not really, GParted has support for USB-flashdrives:-) PM doesn't!03:36
dyn-afkLOL03:37
cgadyn-afk, using that already but is not there03:37
oskudeJenkins: youre on the right track allright03:37
gregg__bilss_: "| yourcmd"03:37
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dyn-afklet me be more specific: gparted is limited regarding Windows drives when compared to PM :P03:37
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Jenkinsbrb, its loading Ubuntu now03:37
dyn-afktry apt-get install instead cga :P03:37
Jenkinsi'll need help with the partitioning in a second03:37
dyn-afkon the commandline of course03:37
gregg__bilss_: including the quotes03:37
oskudeJenkins: how much freespace do you got ?03:38
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Jenkinsoskude, let ya know when i get GPart up lol03:38
secleinteerwhen i try to sudo apt-get, konsole returns "sudo: unable to lookup goku-desktop via gethostbyname()" - does any1 know how to fix this?03:38
Smjordyn-afk, qtparted is actually better than gparted when it comes to NTFS-partitions, Doesn't seem to f*ck things up all the time03:38
CarinArrdoes anyone have any idea how to make fonts render less horribly in firefox?03:38
quietdid the ubuntu kernel get upgraded to 2.6.17?  will it?03:38
secleinteerCarin: there's a windows fonts collection at the forums03:39
dyn-afkah good tip Smjor ;)03:39
quietthe 6.06 kernel, rather.03:39
gregg__quiet: in edgy eft, yes03:39
quietbah.03:39
quietokay03:39
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SmjorCarinArr, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig", choose autohinter and "native" when asked03:39
cgadyn-afk, what is the apt- option to search things?03:39
dyn-afkquiet the kernel will be upgraded along everything else and it will be called ubuntu 6.10 edgy eft :P03:39
gregg__quiet: dapper won't see drastic chages like that03:39
CarinArrsecleinteer, you can't get the standard fonts to render less uglily (if that's a word)03:39
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dyn-afkcga: apt-cache search03:40
quietokay. np.03:40
secleinteerso you get the windows fonts, and it looks good03:40
cgadyn-afk, thanks alot03:40
Smjorcga, apt-cache search whatever03:40
CarinArrkay, giving that a go Smjor03:40
dyn-afknp cga03:40
cgaSmjor, thanks to you too03:40
gregg__quiet: why is 2.6.17 important for you?03:40
CarinArrsmjor, autohinter AND native?03:40
bilss_gregg_ uum thanks can you go a bit further byway of example and say its the homedir of bliss03:40
SmjorCarinArr, yes.03:40
dyn-afkhmmz03:40
CarinArrsmjor, doesn't look like i can choose both "native, autohinter, none"03:41
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dyn-afkI wonder if resizing the ubuntu partition with PM will go well...any experiences with that?03:41
dyn-afkI'm guessing I might need to reinstall grub03:41
SmjorCarinArr. sorry, Autohinter first, next Q answer Always03:41
CarinArrsmjor, okay, thanks!03:41
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quietgregg__, it's really not.  i was just wondering.03:41
gregg__bilss_: echo '"| /path/to/repserver.pl"' >~/.forward03:41
jaketried man chmod and chmod no luck keeps saying permission denied03:42
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[Ex0r] jake- sudo chmod03:42
SmjorCarinArr, after this you must restart X, by issuing "xtrl+alt+backspace"03:42
SmjorCarinArr,  "ctrl+alt+backspace"03:42
CarinArryeah, thanks03:42
Jenkinsok what partition should i make first? the Swap or the / ext3?03:43
SmjorI'd recommend ext303:43
oskudeJenkins: doesnt matter03:43
Smjor"/" that is03:43
bilss_gregg_  what are the words other than echo that come before the pipe sign just ' " ?03:43
CarinArrsmjor, fonts in firefox still look very choppy though03:43
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_stev_CarinArr: hmm well more or less there, reinstall did the job, strange03:43
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SuperMigueldoes any one know how to install frostwire03:43
gregg__bilss_: just a quote03:43
Jenkinsdo i make the ext3 as primary parition or extended?03:43
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SuperMigueli did installed but when i clicked on it nothing happens03:44
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_stev_CarinArr: what is the default font in ff ?03:44
gregg__bilss_: I already constructed a command for you that will create the .forward03:44
oskudeJenkins: heres where you need that "standard" computer knowledge...03:44
SmjorCarinArr, try "System" > "Font", and enable "Best shapes!"03:44
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Jenkinsi have knowledge, im just tryin to install this the right way, i've never touched linux a day in my life03:44
cristianohi all03:44
Jenkinsi dont know how it works03:44
SmjorJenkins, primary03:44
rednosehi all03:44
Jenkinsthank you Smjor03:44
profoX`andrew__: you're the dma dude right03:44
CarinArrsmjor, right.. hang on..03:45
rednosewhat up all03:45
oskudeJenkins: then you should know that you can make max 4 primary partitions...03:45
XplOzIonHelp:  can anyone tell me a good web based FTP server Administrator? One that will let me Add/Edit/Remove user accounts and set any path for each account?03:45
profoX`andrew__: got your mail but don't have any ideas really..03:45
jszaszvari.03:45
oskudeJenkins: linux doesnt care if its primary or logical03:45
Smjoroskude, he'll end up with 3 in total03:45
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_stev_so what is the best readable font for firefox then?03:45
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Jenkinsnow for the Swap, should i make it primary or extended?03:45
Smjorjenkins, still primary03:45
Jenkinsk03:45
bilss_gregg_ ok  in  .>/ .foward03:45
profoX`Jenkins: doesn't matter really03:45
gregg__bilss_: btw, man forward :)03:45
oskudeJenkins: as i said, linux doesnt care...03:45
jszaszvariYeh this isnt windows03:45
Smjorjenkins, you'll still have room for a extended partition later03:46
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dyn-afkswap...you can make it extended if you like03:46
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Badm4ni have client 192.168.1.1-10 .. and i using 2 GW ... i want to make exception 192.168.1.5 and 192.168.1.6 using gw1 and other using gw2 how is it ?03:46
Jenkinsok now it is asking me for mount point for /media/hda1 what partition should that be? the swap?03:46
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SmjorJenkins, /03:46
bilss_gregg_ ok its ~/ .foward03:46
XplOzIonHelp:  can anyone tell me a good web based FTP server Administrator? One that will let me Add/Edit/Remove user accounts and set any path for each account?03:46
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oskudeJenkins: that could be the windows partition, where do you have windows installed ?03:47
dyn-afkJenkins you can't assign a mountpoint to swap :P03:47
Jenkinswell it has the mount for /media/hda1  then another dropdown for the /03:47
dyn-afkswap is the easiest partition to setup03:47
gregg__Badm4n: simply configure these clients to use the other gateway03:47
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SmjorEh, I guess hda1 is windows03:47
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Jenkinsyes HDA1 is windows03:47
dyn-afk:P03:47
Badm4ngregg__ no time for that... this is only for a while not permanent03:47
_stev_how can I without my graphical login start my window manager automatically, without using the startx command in a tty03:47
Smjorthen the second biggest partition will be /03:47
Badm4ni want set all from server03:47
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dyn-afkJenkins you have to assign / to the ext3 partition03:47
SmjorHow large is the partition you use for swap?03:48
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Jenkinsswap is 1004 MB03:48
oskudeJenkins: HDA means HD in IDE1 as master, HDB means HD in IDE1 as slave, HDB means HD in IDE2 as master, and so on03:48
fuocoanybody uses xchat-gnome around ?03:48
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Jenkinsthe / is 16 Gb03:48
oskudeJenkins: and hda1 is the first partition on it, hda2 the second and so on03:48
SonicChao!anybody > fuoco03:48
Jenkinsyah i know the HDA but im just telling you what was default in the boxes03:48
SmjorJenkins, let hda1 be on /media/hda1, assign / to hda2 and swap to hda303:48
Badm4nanyone please03:48
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dyn-afkoskude explain it a bit more simple: hda = the first ide disk in the machine, hdb the second, etc.03:49
Smjorand then reformat hda2 and hda303:49
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fyrestrtrBadm4n: edit /etc/networking/interfaces03:49
Jenkinsi just took out the /media/hda1 all together cause that is my windows partition03:49
bilss_gregg; yes you did thanks   echo '"| /path/to/repserver.pl"' >~/.forward03:49
bilss_just to confirm this what i got?03:49
fuocoSonicChao: there's the notification icon, and it doesn't work for - doesn't show up when i enable the plugin03:49
Jenkinsor should i put it back?03:49
SonicChaofuoco: Notification icon? I use regular XChat...03:49
oskudedyn-afk: well, how to know whats "first" if you dont know how to set it as master or slave...03:49
Smjorjenkins, doesn't matter, but if you take it away, you won't be able to read the contents of win-drive03:49
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dyn-afkoskude that doesn't matter to linux :)03:50
Jenkinsok then i guess i'll put it back03:50
SonicChaofuoco: As to go with GNOME policies, the "developers" at GNOME delete features.03:50
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ppHi! installed 6.06 yesterday and immediately got 185M of updates to download. Is there are any plans for update release, just to save on all this download time?03:50
JohnRobertis there a parameter I can pass to the kernel to stop it from loading any modules?03:50
Badm4nfyrestrtr : and what should i put on it ?03:50
dyn-afkif the second hd is a slave on ide1 or if the second hd is a master on ide2 doesn't matter03:50
oskudedyn-afk: what ? howcome ?03:50
Smjorpp, same as me03:50
SonicChaopp: Just install all the updates03:50
dyn-afkit's just the second harddrive in the machine03:50
SonicChaopp: No, there isn't. :(03:50
CarinArrsmjor, same after enabling best shapes03:50
CarinArrhang on let me screenshot03:50
gregg__JohnRobert: I don't think that's possible - ubuntu is highly modularized03:51
oskudedyn-afk: how to know whats where if you dont know ide slot and slave or master ?03:51
ppit's 40min per machine!!! even on high-speed. Insane03:51
erUSULpp: is the way linux works you are allways secure with patches03:51
dyn-afkthat's not how linux works03:51
Jenkinsso the mount point /media/hda1 will be my windows NTFS partition to read the files of that in linux correct?03:51
SonicChaopp: Lol, i don't know, watch TV or something03:51
JohnRobertgregg__, my question was actually for a custom gentoo kernel :p03:51
gregg__pp: set up a local mirror with the updates03:51
Smjorjenkins, yes03:51
Jenkinsk03:51
SonicChaopp: It should never break though03:51
Jenkinslet me start this format then03:51
oskudedyn-afk: well, its the bios that defines where the HDs are...03:51
dyn-afkit looks at how many harddrives are connected not how and where they are connected03:51
SonicChaopp: I haven't patched Ubuntu in ages03:51
CarinArrsmjor, http://www.pixelicious.net/temp/screenshot.jpg03:51
fyrestrtrpp: you don't need to download it again for each machine. If they are all on a network just download the updates on one machine, and copy the update files to the other and run apt-get update03:52
dyn-afkfreebsd does look at how and where it's connected03:52
Smjorjenkins,  ntfs will be mouted read-only in linux03:52
oskudedyn-afk: what ever03:52
CarinArrsee what i mean about choppy? my hoary work machine displays everything fine.. dapper laptop looks crappy03:52
dyn-afkbut it also uses different devicenames03:52
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scott__anyone know how i can recompile/rewrite my ipod itunes database? as some of my files have gone missing on my ipod but are visible to rythmbox (but not amarok or gtkpod03:52
Jenkinsi will only need read-only on it03:52
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Jenkinsas long as i can copy some files from i to linux partitions03:52
Jenkinsit*03:52
SmjorCarinArr, thats really weird03:52
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SmjorJenkins, yep, won't be a problem03:53
Badm4nfyrestrtr : ?03:53
Jenkinsk thank you smjor03:53
Jenkinslet me get this formatting03:53
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fyrestrtrBadm4n: read the manual page, as I forgot the exact syntax03:53
n2obmmm food03:54
Badm4nfyrestrtr :(03:54
Jenkinssmjor do you have MSN Messenger?03:54
SmjorCarinArr, never seen this in ubuntu03:54
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SmjorJenkins, yes03:54
Smjorwell, gaim03:54
SuperMigueldoes any one know how to install  frostwire03:54
Smjor:-)03:54
Jenkinswould you mind if i added you to ask for further help with linux?03:54
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jribCarinArr: try use a different font, the microsoft ones show up like that for me too.  But if I set preferences to use my own fonts (bitstream vera sans I think) it looks good03:55
fuococan i somehow use a newer kernel than dapper provides ?03:55
Jenkinsi probly wont be using it that often lol but always nice to have someone who knows whats going on with it03:55
SmjorJenkins, nope, private pm in a moment03:55
jribCarinArr: s/use/using03:55
Jenkinsok03:55
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Badm4nfyrestrtr : sry i must go for a while bathroom ... please tell me the command at my pv pls... this is urgent :(03:55
Jenkinsi don't know if i will be able to get the PM since i am not registered with this IRC03:55
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linus001Can anyone help me install a USB / HP 1020 LaserJet printer. I got it to print one test page. That was it, it won't do anything. If I reboot to Windows it works fine.03:56
Viper550Wanna see a preview of one of the themes that may come with Edgy?03:56
erUSUL!frostwire > SuperMiguel03:56
CarinArrjrib, the weird thing is that firefox uses the same fonts on both my machines and one looks perfect, the ohter looks crap03:56
SmjorJenkins, join #ubuntutemp03:56
Viper550https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Tropic03:56
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phenexhey guys... i need some help with upgrading breezy to dapper... i did apt-get dist-upgrade and got dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.03:56
phenexrunning sudo dpkg --configure -a answerd the same... what do i do now?03:56
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jszaszvariHmm not good, I just spun around on my chair and knocked my file server over.....03:57
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jribCarinArr: are you sure the other machine has the microsoft fonts installed?  If you don't install them, then the machine defaults to what it can find03:57
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jordan_Where is gcc installed?03:58
n2obwhere can i learn the basics of linux networking? any websites?03:58
MrFeetiowhat is a good torrent program that allows me to set priority over multiple torrent03:58
jordan_Azureus03:58
CarinArrjrib, er.. don't know.. let me look03:58
jribjordan_: type 'which gcc'03:58
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jordan_....03:58
fyrestrtr!update > phenex03:58
MrFeetioazureus doesnt work right on linux03:58
jribjordan_: ?03:58
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jordan_The one on ubutnu 5.10?03:59
jordan_Installed with apt03:59
cristianoi have a bunch of zip files in adir that i want to be extracted all at once by unzip. i've tried with "unzip path/*.zip" but it says "zip file not matched". what to do????03:59
jribjordan_: yes, the command I gave you tells you where it is, or at least where the symlink is03:59
phenexumm... fyrestrtr,,, apt wouldn't work at all now... i don't think the manual will help...03:59
CarinArrjrib, i don't think i have ms fonts installed..04:00
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jribCarinArr: on the machine with the bad firefox fonts you mean?04:00
CarinArrjrib, yeah04:00
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CarinArri have artwiz fonts installed but i can't think i have any others that are "extra"04:00
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XplOzIonhow would i active vnc-server in a server from ssh?04:01
SmjorCarinArr, try "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"04:01
CarinArrsmjor, i want them installed?04:01
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jordan_Jrib : That didnt do anything04:02
SmjorWell, they're nice looking windows fonts. But to be honest, I don't know if it helps:-/04:02
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jribCarinArr: set preferences > content > fonts > advanced to always use your own fonts, and see if that fixes it.  That should at least tell you if it is a font selection problem.  You could also check the antialias settings in system > preferences > fonts04:02
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GTXSome how X keeps restarting when im typing something, Its when im  holding shift and backspace or something but its driving me CRAZY! how do i stop it04:02
jribjordan_: apt-cache policy gcc | grep -i Installed04:02
quietit's fine to remove the -386 kernel and all it's stuff if i have the -66 kernel installed, yeah?04:02
gnomefreakquiet: should be04:03
dr_willisGTX you are using that Fancy X thing.. glx or whatever its called correct?04:03
abhinayhow to set kdm as default display manager ?04:03
quietfigured so.04:03
gnomefreakdr_willis: xgl?04:03
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jribabhinay: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm04:03
dr_willisgnomefreak,  yea thats it :P04:03
GTXdr_willis, Its installed but not using it no.04:03
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jordan_jrib : It Just said Installed (None)04:03
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jordan_so its not installed?04:04
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jribjordan_: nope, install the package 'build-essential', that will pull in gcc as well as other development stuff you will need04:04
dr_willisGTX id double check that - thats identical to a issue that a lot of the XGL people have.04:04
danf_1979does ubuntu-server come with a ssh server installed?04:04
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dr_willisdanf_1979,  its trivial to install one. its not installed by default I think.04:04
dr_willis!ssh04:05
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/04:05
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GTXok dr_willis04:05
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ardchoilleIs there a way to disable the ctrl+alt+del key combo from shutting down?04:05
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dr_willisardchoille,  yes - i think  its in the inittab file.04:05
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gnomefreakardchoille: yes please see help.ubuntu.com  i cant remember how04:05
CarinArrjrib, if i tell it always to use my fonts it looks fine04:05
gnomefreaki know its ont here though04:05
ardchoillegnomefreak , dr_willis : Thanks, will look it up04:06
dr_willisyou can set what alt-ctrl-del does in the /etc/inittab (I think. i altered it ages ago)04:06
user-landinstalling ubuntu succeeded, but while rebooting i again get invalid superblock for the root drive.04:06
Ace2010how do i copy a folder and all its contents in the command line?04:06
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XplOzIonhow would i active vnc-server in a server from ssh?04:06
Ace2010i want to duplicate it04:06
jribCarinArr: that is what I do, I don't know if there is a way to make the other fonts look smoother04:06
gnomefreakAce2010: cp04:06
fyrestrtrdanf_1979: sudo apt-get install openssh-server04:06
jordan_jrib : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:06
jordan_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?04:06
jordan_ (Whats that for?)04:06
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fuococan i install a new kernel in dapper? 2.6.17 ?04:06
Ace2010gnomefreak: thanks04:06
gnomefreakAce2010: yw04:06
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nofalehi, i have a problem at bott of ubuntu 6.0204:06
dr_willisXplOzIon,  run 'vncserver' - which  may or may not start up the right window manager for you.04:06
jordan_That came when i tried to apt it04:06
fyrestrtrjordan_: close synaptic04:06
gnomefreakjordan_: close synaptic04:06
nofale*boot04:06
dyn-afkfuoco yes you can04:06
dr_willisXplOzIon,  reading the vncserver script will tell you a lot of info about what it does/how it runs.04:07
SmjorCarinArr, problem solved?04:07
jordan_synaptic crashed earlier04:07
nofalethe error is "invalid boot sector"04:07
Chrono_trigger04:07
jordan_but its not open04:07
danf_1979yes I know, but I wanted to use ubuntu as a production server. The problem is, I am not going to do the installation, and the server will be in a datacenter04:07
CarinArrit's just weird cause i don't think i've ever had to do it before..04:07
dyn-afkbut you'll have to compile the 2.6.17 kernel yourself04:07
danf_1979nice move ubuntu devs04:07
danf_1979:/04:07
GTXdr_willis, how do I fully remove it?04:07
XplOzIondr_willis thanks but since im using ssh to manage the server04:07
CarinArrnormally it's looked fine with just standard settings in firefox04:07
fuocodyn-afk: i can't find how ?04:07
user-landshould i try to repair the superblock or reinstall on another partition _04:07
gnomefreakjordan_: its still running look for it in ps aux and kill the pid04:07
ardchoilledr_willis: It is indeed in /etc/inittab I'll alter it there, thanks again :)04:07
dr_willisXplOzIon,  i ssh into my remote machine all the time and run vncserver, then fire up a vncclient to connect.04:07
nofalecan someone help me?04:07
jordan_....04:07
jordan_how do i do that?04:07
dyn-afkfuoco the same way as one would do it on debian04:08
dr_willisGTX no clue there - it never has worked for me - so i dont mess with it any more.04:08
dyn-afkand there are tutorials for those04:08
XplOzIondr_willis ok ill try... thanks!04:08
jordan_is ther contraol alt delete in lunux?04:08
jordan_linux04:08
dyn-afkmaybe ubotu has one for ubuntu04:08
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gnomefreakjordan_: it doesnt do the same as windows04:08
jribjordan_: system > administration > system monitor04:08
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fuocodyn-afk: yeah, but i couldn't find anything04:08
gnomefreakjordan_: just restart X its easier04:08
dyn-afkI came across one in the ubuntuforums.org yesterday04:08
dr_willisI would also guess that SSH is NOT installed by default - because it could be considered 'bad' to have a service running that many people dont need by default.04:09
ardchoilledr_willis: Looks like I can also reduce the number of tty's in that file to, is that correct?04:09
dyn-afksearch the ubuntuforums :)04:09
dr_willisardchoille,  if you would want to. :)  no idea why ya would want to.04:09
jordan_I dont see system monitor04:09
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jordan_nvm04:09
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abhinayhey, i hv a problem - not logging in , if entered my username & password it is comming out to gdm again... ?  any suggestions ?04:11
jordan_I dont see systematic04:11
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jordan_how do i restart x or whatever04:11
dr_willisabhinay,  clean install? update? try the console..04:11
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fyrestrtrctrl+alt+backspace to restart X04:11
jribabhinay: check ownership of ~/.{ICE,X}authority04:11
cd_romjesus, lmao my broadband is so slow in ubuntu that synaptic failed to download a package04:12
cd_romlord almighty04:12
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jribcd_rom: that doesn't happen on my dialup!04:12
cd_romjrib: i know04:12
abhinayis there any command wich changes all settings to default settings ?04:12
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abhinayiam able to login as root ...04:12
cd_romjrib: download is about 8840b04:12
cd_romXD04:12
abhinaybut not with my username & passwd ...04:13
jribabhinay: were those files owned by your user?04:13
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dyn-afkfuoco take a look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8506404:13
defaulthi04:13
fuocothx04:13
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dyn-afkit's for breezy but it's still the same procedure04:13
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cd_romok, i am at ubuntu forum with a thread about slow internet connection so i open up /etc/reselv.conf04:14
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lens_LOL, seems the problems were not caused by my installation, my mouse is running out of juice.04:14
cd_romand there are 2 nameserver04:14
dr_willisabhinay,  you  made a root password?04:14
XplOzIondr_willis: thanks a lot.. works perfect!!04:14
abhinaydr_willis, Yes04:14
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fuocodyn-afk: that's for manually compiling, right  ?04:14
cd_romso should i shift the second to top or what?04:14
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phenexi need some help with apt... when i try to apt-get anything i get an error with deptree ir something like that, which says "run dpkg --configure -a". when i do that i get berezovsky@myth:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a04:14
defaultsmall question: I have ubuntu dapper 6.06 installed, my notebook has a ati graphics card and I'd like to update the driver as the driver (fglrx) from the repository is not the latest. Now, what is the best strategy to replace the old one? I mean, should I first remove the one installed with synaptic and then install the .run file from ati - all without rebooting or what would be the best order?04:14
phenexdpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.04:14
phenexAborted04:14
dr_willisXplOzIon,  i got my fileserver set where i vnc in and it auto-starts up a vnc session for me - giving me the GDM login screen. :)04:15
phenexany idea what can i do to solve this?04:15
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fyrestrtrdefault: read !ati04:15
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abhinayjrib, where can i find   " ~/.{ICE,X}authority  "  ?04:15
default!ati04:15
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:15
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oskudefyi: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/devices.html#names (who ever it was)04:15
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phenexthe weird thing is that from time to time apt suddenly decides to work... then it finishes and stops working again04:15
defaultfyrestrtr & aubotu: thanks04:16
jribabhinay: ~/.{ICE,X}authority means /home/USERNAME/.Xauthority and /home/USERNAME/.ICEauthority04:16
user-landthe Ubuntu installer partitioner does not do what you tell him to do:04:16
varsendaggr /j #blender04:16
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XplOzIondr_willis great.maybe you could helpme with another thing04:16
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dyn-afkyes fuoco that's for manually compiling, after compiling you create a .deb package and you install the .deb package04:16
Badm4nfyrestrtr : how04:16
[NaRuTo] [abhinay] 04:16
dyn-afkthe advantage: with the .deb package you can uninstall the kernel :)04:16
[NaRuTo] the ~ simbols is the same that you Home directory04:17
fuocodyn-afk: yeah ok, i see04:17
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Badm4ni have client 192.168.1.1-10 .. and i using 2 GW ... i want to make exception 192.168.1.5 and 192.168.1.6 using gw1 and other using gw2 how is it ?04:17
quietwhere do i blacklist a module in ubuntu?04:17
[NaRuTo] ~/foo and $HOME/foo and /home/user/foo is the same ;)04:17
fuocodyn-afk: i look if i can still find a ready made image deb04:17
quietnm04:17
quietfound it04:17
abhinayjrib, -rw------- 1 root root 126 2006-07-25 16:09 .Xauthority04:17
user-landi tell it to format hdc1 as root, but instead it warns that two swap partitions will be formatted, but no mention of my hdc1 ...04:17
jribabhinay: delete them04:17
[NaRuTo] yep, remove04:17
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abhinayr u sure ?04:18
[NaRuTo] and restart X04:18
[NaRuTo] :)04:18
[NaRuTo] yes04:18
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jordan_Still not working04:18
jribabhinay: yes, you can rename them if you prefer, or chown them to your user, deleting is easier04:18
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[NaRuTo] is a common error :P04:18
[NaRuTo] yep04:18
jordan_It says cannot lock direcory and stuff04:18
user-landcan i easily format the root partition on the terminal ?04:18
[NaRuTo] X session create this file at start04:18
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XplOzIondr_willis: you know an ftp server manager? a good one. that will let me set user accouts path anywhere?04:18
jribjordan_: just reboot04:19
Klump3nwtf happened to the update thingy?!04:19
abhinaydelete both .Xauthority & .ICEauthority04:19
dr_willisXplOzIon,  my advice for ftp - Ditch it.. and use ssh. :)04:19
[NaRuTo] ujmm04:19
[NaRuTo] i think04:19
jribabhinay: yeah, they'll get created again when you login04:19
[NaRuTo] that only .ICEautho.. run04:19
abhinayjrib, ok04:19
Klump3ni use gnome, and synaptic shows sth about kde-libs. then: xserver crashes04:19
jordan_Would a broken package be messing me up?04:19
XplOzIondr_willis well i cant. i need ftp server :/04:20
jordan_Synaptic (Just opened) Says i have one04:20
aliis there a amd64 dist for debian?04:20
XplOzIonali yes04:20
fyrestrtrali: in december there will be04:20
jribjordan_: maybe, what package?04:20
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aliok04:20
jordan_No clue04:21
jordan_Just says to use a filter...04:21
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fyrestrtrjordan_: means click on the button marked 'Broken' on the bottom left hand corner04:21
thompais there a way to tell grub to install on 2nd linux drive rather than mbr of windows?04:21
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fyrestrtrthompa: how would you boot into linux then?04:22
thompai dont want grub to mess with windos hard disk04:22
oskudethompa: you can install grub in a floppy mbr and use that as boot disk04:22
thompait has a restore partition, last time i tried it only that and ubuntu would boot04:23
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thompai got no floppy04:23
ardchoillefyrestrtr: If he did that, wouldn't he have to tell BIOS to boot from 2nd hdd?04:23
MrFeetiowhat is a good torrent program that allows me to set priority over multiple torrent, and works on linux04:23
helfrezany server issues again today? im getting some malformned release files in a few repositories04:23
fyrestrtrardchoille: no, that wouldn't work.04:23
oskudeardchoille: yup, otherwise only windows boots04:23
dr_willis!torrent04:23
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html04:23
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Jenkinswhat is "Network Connection: lo" ?04:24
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thompaso ubuntu has to go to windows disk mbr?04:24
fyrestrtrlocalhost, 127.0.0.104:24
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bobovskihi all.04:24
Jenkinswhere would i find my network card ?04:24
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fyrestrtrJenkins: in the back of your pc04:24
oskudethompa: the mbr on the disk doesnt belong to windows, windows just installed its mbr to it...04:24
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ardchoillethompa: That is how I learned to do it, it doesn't harm anything.04:24
bobovskiis there an ssh server included with ubuntu or do I have to install one?04:24
Jenkinsno, i mean like in the properties04:24
Jenkinsto check its connection status04:25
fyrestrtrbobovski: sudo apt-get install openssh-server04:25
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fyrestrtrJenkins: it should be there in the gnome network manager04:25
bobovskifyrestrtr: thanks. will that then be a service started upon install?04:25
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fyrestrtrbobovski: yeap04:25
thompaardchoille: hows that?04:25
bobovskicool, thanks04:25
Badm4nis this posible to route add -net 192.168.1.2 gw 192.168.1.25404:26
jordan_Apt Is working Now :) :)04:26
Badm4n?04:26
fyrestrtrbobovski: sorry, not upon install, but you have to install it -- then it will be started automatically from then on.04:26
abhinayjrib, same problem , nothing has changed ... :\04:26
dyn-afkhmmz04:26
bobovskifyrestrtr: yeah, I meant upon boot up :)04:26
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ardchoillethompa: I learned to install Windows first, then install Linux and allow grub to be installed on MBR of master hdd. This way you can choose to boot into either Windows or Linux. But, I hear there are other ways to do it.04:26
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Chrono_triggerhey guys just popping in. I am trying to install ubuntu on a compaq persario 2500 (POS) and the window manager is going so slow I can't get the GUI installer to function.  The computer is not over loaded just sort of crawling for a unknow reason. is there a non-GUI installer I can use of the cd. Desktop version04:26
dyn-afkI have these mediabuttons on the side of my laptop and I mapped those in GNOME04:27
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helfrezlooks like the heatwave may have taken out some more systems lol, some other people in forums reporting problems with some repositories now also04:27
dyn-afktotem works with all of them04:27
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dyn-afkrythmbox works with nearly all of them04:27
bobovskifyrstrtr: oh, and it does start after install as well. works perfaect. thanks again04:27
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dyn-afkth eonly button that doesn't work with rythmbox is the play/pause button04:27
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thompai did some days ago ubuntu install and only recovery partiton or ubuntu would boot04:27
jribabhinay: hmm can you check that you have free space available?04:27
dyn-afkany idea where or how I can add support for that button to rythmbox?04:27
narfmasterlittle problem with the repos here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1886504:27
oskudeChrono_trigger: sadly the desktop cd doesnt have the text-mode installer, you need the alterante cd for that04:27
dyn-afkor any other mediaplayer then totem04:27
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bobovskihave you tried totem-xine/04:28
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abhinayjrib, 27 % free , available04:28
dyn-afkI just want to use rythmbos for my mp3's and use the play/pause button04:28
jribabhinay: don't know then, deleting those two files usually does it, you must be having a different issue04:28
`Evil`Can anyone help with letting VMware access partitions by default? Unless I run it in as su in term it keeps giving access denied04:28
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oskudeChrono_trigger: or maybe the resolution is "too big" for vesa driver, try the "compatible vga mode" or how its called04:28
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dyn-afkif I can add the play/pause button support to rythmbox I'm a happy guy :P04:29
bobovskidyn-afk: ah. I'm an xmms fan, dunno about rythymbos04:29
bobovskier, box04:29
alii can't log in as root in gnome but it's possible when I log in at a real terminal04:29
abhinayjrib, i recently updated my system to edgy eft04:29
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quietcan anyone tell me the name of the theme that is just like the normal Human theme, only it's more of a blue color....  Human-Industrial??  is it in the repos or do i need to get it from gnome-look?04:29
fyrestrtrabhinay: #ubuntu+104:29
oskudeali: you should not use root, thats what sudo is for04:29
jribabhinay: #ubuntu+1 is for edgy, and it's a development version so it may be broken now04:29
abhinaythank you04:30
bobovskithanks again, all gotta run04:30
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Chrono_triggeryeah I tried the vga. its wierd the screen saver runs fine so I dont think its a video thing but anything that has to do with gnome takes forever to load but data transfer is find.04:30
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alioskude: but im trying to use a administration tool04:30
oskudeChrono_trigger: its running from cd, so its normal that its slow04:30
frogzooabhinay: edgy is at least alpha atm - expect things to break regularly04:30
helfreznarfmaster: same issues here with some security and alot of the backports for dapper04:30
oskudeali: then run "sudo commandname"04:31
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narfmasterhelfrez, any workaround?04:31
`Evil`Any help with letting VMware access partitions by default. Unless I run it in as su in term it keeps giving access denied04:31
fuocodapper has xorg-7.0 which should have working dri for r300, but it's not working for me. should i do something manually to get it working ?04:31
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helfreznarfmaster: none for me, i just had to disable a bunch of repos, im assuming something else melted in a server room somewhere like the other day lol04:31
grampajoeIs there any way to find out at what speed a USB device is connected (1.1 or 2.0)?04:31
ardchoillequiet: Is this the one you're looking for: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=4067004:32
narfmasterhelfrez, okay cool i'm going to see what i can do...04:32
vorbote`Evil`, not tried, but you could add yourself to the the disk group04:32
helfrezany OPS wanna chime in or add a msg to the topic, i imagine any moment now peopel will started flodding in with questions about repos heheh04:32
Hobbseehelfrez: what's this?04:32
Hobbseehelfrez: they dont again?04:32
helfrezHobbsee: yeah some of the repose are coming up malformned relase files04:33
`Evil`vorbote, good idea, didnt wanna make myself root so guess will try that04:33
Hobbseehelfrez: ah great04:33
Chrono_triggerI know that that live CD are slow I have been useing linux for about a year now. LOL but we are talking 10 mine to frame out the window.04:33
quietardchoille, actually it's not... but i do like that.  is it in the repo?04:33
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helfrezHobbsee: security repos and looks liek at least all the dapper-backports04:33
ardchoillequiet: I don't know04:33
oskudegrampajoe: you could try: dmesg | grep sub04:33
Hobbseehelfrez: ah yes, i think i saw that04:33
quietok04:33
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alioskude: The thing is that im trying to run the program "users and groups", and i dont know what it is called from the console,04:33
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Chrono_triggerhmmm you guys just have one kernel on the disk?04:34
ardchoillehelfrez: security.ubuntu.com may be down, but archive.ubuntu.com is working04:34
oskudeali: and it should ask for a password, right ? its askin you password, if youre the user created at installation04:34
jakehi anyone know a way to add the sun java to the firefox browser04:34
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ardchoillehmm..  Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release04:34
helfrezardchoille:just some of the repos look liek then need to be refreshed, serves are not down04:34
aladdscan someone tell me why my installation fails to boot due to the script /sbin/evms_activate being missing from the initrd and what i can do about it?04:34
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helfrezardchoille: exactly lol04:35
frogzoo!java04:35
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:35
`Evil`vorbote, naah, not working :(04:35
ardchoillehelfrez: Ahh, ok04:35
oskudegrampajoe: i get "[17179579.616000]  usb 1-2: new low speed USB device " and i know its 1.1 so i assume that low speed means 1.1, but i could be wrong04:35
n2obwhat's the command to fetch a cvs directory?04:35
adelaloow04:35
helfrezardchoille: just some of the repose look liek they have gotten corrupted release files or sumthin, all servers responding atm04:35
acusterhow do I make \theta and \phi and \psi in the inkscape textbox (or the terminal for that matter)04:35
alioskude, yes, and im typing the right password, but I only get wrong password, but i know it works, beacouse i can login as root on a terminal with that password04:35
ardchoilleyeah04:35
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grampajoeoskude: I get a message about a new hi-speed device, and I found something in the device manager that tells me it's 2.004:36
oskudeali: hmm, you should be able to login as root anywhere...04:36
narfmasterHobbsee, archive.ubuntu.com is up but i timeout on certain files there04:36
vorbote`Evil`, you need to reboot. I know that's silly but for some reason the kernel is not notified of the group change whe it is done (I'm sure it is ia bug but dunno where).04:36
oskudeali: *shouldnt04:36
adelhaloooo04:36
adelhow are you??04:36
oskudegrampajoe: then it seems to be a usb2.0 bus04:36
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gnomefreaknarfmaster: security is having issues here atleast04:36
`Evil`vorbote, ah k04:37
adelgw bru pertama chat disini 'n ga ngerti gmn cara na?04:37
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adelda yg bsa ajarin ga?04:37
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oskudeali: did you do somehow set a password for root ? you shouldnt...04:37
fyrestrtrgod don't you just love waiting for backups to get done *sigh*04:37
void^vorbote: relogin should do, or use newgrp in terminal04:37
ardchoillefyrestrtr: lol04:37
narfmasterhelfrez, i think the workaround for now is to wait a week or so... :/04:37
Drakesonwhat is the version (date) of emacs-snapshot in edgy? should I move to the unstable edgy to get a fresh one?04:37
backupForWimpsany high parallel computing centre for bioinfo using ubuntu?04:37
oskudeali: try "sudo echo foo" in terminal and try your password, if the user is really the user that was created during installation, something is wrong04:37
vorbotevoid^, I didnt know that. Thanks for the tip!04:38
gnomefreak!info emacs-snapshot edgy04:38
ubotuemacs-snapshot: The GNU Emacs editor (development snapshot). In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:20060707-1 (edgy), package size 1964 kB, installed size 5744 kB04:38
oskudeali: eh, i mean if it doesnt work, somwthing is wrog04:38
jakekk i have that installed is thier away i can install the old microsoft virtual machine java system to firefox04:38
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helfreznarfmaster: im thinking ur right, so much stuff went down the other day, im sure this is just a slight backlash...i just disabled everything returning errors FTM04:38
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narfmasterhelfrez, i wish it were that simple... i'm getting errors on repos randomly at this point04:38
Drakeson!info emacs-snapshot dapper04:38
ubotuemacs-snapshot: The GNU Emacs editor (development snapshot). In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:20060114-1 (dapper), package size 2490 kB, installed size 7648 kB04:38
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`Evil`vorbote, didnt work, can i create a shortcut which always runs vmware as root or something like that?04:40
thiago__hi04:40
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Drakesonahh! I am growing the feeling that I need to move to edgy to get upgraded packages, (in other words, can one really rely on backports, honestly?)04:40
oskudeDrakeson: do you really need upgraded packages ?04:40
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abhinaycan i install dapper on edgy  ?04:41
Drakesonthere are a few packages I need upgraded, like emacs04:41
lordzeroim new in ubuntu and im using a live cd, how can i keep my stuff i downloaded or the changes i made?04:41
ardchoilleDrakeson: edgy is still beta, so updated packages may or may not work04:41
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alioskude: I tried to type the root password but it doenst work, Should't I have a root passoword and a password for my user?04:41
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dr_willis!root04:42
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:42
ardchoilleali: you should only have your user password, unless yuo have enabled the root account yourself.04:42
oskudeali: as i said, "sudo" ask your password (if youre the first user created, like at the installation)04:42
interfearDo I want to use XMMS as my mp3 player? is there something else you guys can recommend?04:42
`Evil`Anyone using vmware here?04:42
backupForWimpsinterfear, use MPLAYER instead04:42
dr_willisinterfear,  theres many players.. xmms is an older one.. beep media player is nice. or the juke/amarok/others.04:42
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backupForWimpsmplayer -loop 0 *.mp304:43
goudkovhow can i install glibc-devel on dapper?04:43
backupForWimpsor use mp3blastwr04:43
alioskude: I installed ubuntu in expert mode, and I was able to set a root password04:43
Drakesonardchoille: some packages often tend to work, even at beta stage.04:43
backupForWimpsmp3blaster04:43
thiago__i've  problems with winecfg. Where do : winecfg, result = thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg04:43
thiago__Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.04:43
thiago__can't create mcop directory04:43
thiago__ , thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg04:43
thiago__Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.04:43
thiago__can't create mcop directory04:43
interfeardr_willis: yeh, for some reason amarok wont work, i dunno il try to figure it out..04:43
thiago__.  can me help ?04:43
interfearbackupForWimps: yeh i need to find a nice skin for mplayer04:43
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backupForWimpsinterfear, just use command line ;-)04:44
oskudeali: well, then youre an expert, you should know ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:44
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lordzerocan any one help me on that one?04:44
abhinayis it possible to install dapper on edgy using dapper installation CD ?04:44
backupForWimpsany1 from MALAYSIA here?04:44
interfearbackupForWimps: :)04:44
dr_willisexpert mode seems to be used more by nonexperts then it is experts....04:44
dr_willis:)04:44
ardchoillelol04:44
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alioskude: Hehe, im not used to not having the root password :) I was using slackware, but i wanted something that supports my amd64 processor04:45
fyrestrtrdr_willis: so true lol04:45
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oskudeali: you login (in gnome) with the user (not root!) you created during installation, then click the program you want to use, and if it asks for a password, its the password of that user, not roots password04:45
Drakesonali: sudo works just fine, trust it04:45
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=== fyrestrtr wonders if the norm in the linux world is to *not* use sudo -- as a lot of immigrants from other distros complain about root login.
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ryan_narutowhen i restart my comp it makes my desktop setting to use ubuntu when im logging in to Xfce desktop i always menu>settings>desktop setting> tick on allow Xfce to manage desktop.... is there a way that i wont do this everytime i restart my pc04:46
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josh__what are the commands to modify users/groups?04:46
oskudefyrestrtr: ive seen lot starting using sudo04:46
thiago__i've  problems with winecfg. Where do : winecfg, result = thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg  , thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.can't create mcop directory .  can me help ?04:46
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josh__i need to delete the nx user and group so i can reinstall freenx04:47
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ardchoillefyrestrtr: AFAIK, Ubuntu is the only distro that uses sudo bydefault and lockes the root account at installation.04:47
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lordzerohow do i save changes on a live cd?04:47
dr_willisfyrestrtr,  the linspire disrto defaults to the user being root all the time... which is real real scary. :)04:47
grampajoeWhat's the command to make a script file executable?04:47
fyrestrtrardchoille: os x does it too, but its no linux :)04:47
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josh__lord... uy dont save changes04:47
fyrestrtrdr_willis: well, considering they are emulating Windows, it makes sense.04:47
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oskudelordzero: thats not ment to be done in ubuntu desktio cd04:47
ardchoilleI knew there was something about linspire that I didn't like04:48
fyrestrtrgrampajoe: chmod +x filename04:48
dr_willisfyrestrtr,  Emulate the worst of both worlds!04:48
dr_willis:P04:48
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fyrestrtrdr_willis: exactly04:48
dr_willistheres a lot about Linspire to Not like. :)04:48
lordzeroso i need to instal it instead of using a live cd?04:48
dr_willislordzero,  or use a usb thumb drive to save stuff to.04:48
abhinayi hv a problem with mplayer; saying "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available , Enable it at compilation "   ???04:48
lordzerook04:48
lordzerothanks04:48
fyrestrtrabhinay: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:48
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josh__anyone know those commands?04:49
frogzoo!permissions > grampajoe04:49
ardchoillejosh__: Which commands?04:49
josh__the ones for modifying users/groups04:49
josh__i need to delete the nx user and the nx group04:50
fyrestrtrjosh__: usermod04:50
josh__then i need to add 2 user names and add them to the sudo list04:50
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thiago__i hv  a problem with winecfg. When do $ winecfg, result =  thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ winecfg Creating link /home/thiago/.kde/socket-thiago-desktop.can't create mcop directory . Any me undestand ?04:50
homerh_linuxhiya ppl04:50
fyrestrtrjosh__: to delete, userdel groupdel04:50
josh__usermod deletes groups too?04:50
josh__ahh... thats why i couldn';t do it...04:50
josh__was trying to do groupmod04:50
josh__lol04:50
dr_willisthiago__,  i cant recall ever rnning winecfg -04:50
fyrestrtrjosh__: to add, useradd -- and ... you guessed it, groupadd :P04:50
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alioskude: Does these administration tools use sudo when i try to run them?04:51
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homerh_linuxhiya ppl i cant find my samba shares ,i can only find them when i connect to server and enter ip otherwise i cant see them when i browse windows shares04:51
oskudeali: yup, atleast from the gnome menus04:51
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dr_willishomerh_linux,  the samba config file has a 'browseable' option that may be off by default. as well as 'writeonly' being set.'04:51
oskudeali: if you run them from terminal, you need the command "sudo" in front of them04:51
thiago__dr_willis: More i he reinstall04:52
alioskude yeah I know, but thanks :)04:52
fyrestrtrali: otherwise, strange and curious results may happen.04:52
josh__ok u wouldn't happen to know a link to how i can set more sudoers from the commandline would ya? adding a user to sudo group doesn't work04:52
thiago__dr_willis: More i hv reinstall04:52
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fyrestrtrjosh__: add the concerned user to the admin group04:52
oskudejosh__: i think the group was "admin" or so04:52
josh__admin....04:52
josh__no sudo?04:52
ardchoillejosh__: add user to admin group04:52
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josh__ok04:52
fyrestrtrjosh__: any user in the admin group has rights to sudo04:53
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oskudejosh__: but would be more logical to have group sudo ..04:53
grampajoeI can't get mtp (media transfer protocol) to work on my pc, it won't recognize my Creative Zen Vision:M, can anyone offer any suggestions?04:53
Chrono_triggerhmmm the real slow response seems to be isolated to the install program04:53
josh__thats what i was doing wrong there.... lol i almost have this sucker fixed now :)04:53
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homerh_linuxdr_willis the smb.conf is ok all set alright (i think ) i has been working but its stoped for some reason04:53
dr_willishomerh_linux,  samba can be a very fickled beasty! :)04:53
josh__so... usermod -G admin josh then do a usermod -g all,other,groups josh04:53
josh__?04:53
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ardchoillejosh__: From the wiki: in the terminal this would be: sudo adduser $user admin, where you replace $user with the name of the user.04:54
dr_willishomerh_linux,  i tend to edit my /etc/hosts file and put in the name/ips of all my machines also.04:54
josh__lol yeah but my sudo dont work so i gotta do it as root lol04:54
homerh_linuxyeah i took me ages to get it working04:54
josh__but whatever... as long as it works :)04:54
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fyrestrtrmirrors are down?04:55
XplOzIonhow can i remove for example mysql-server with all conf files and everything04:55
fyrestrtrXplOzIon: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server04:56
josh__next question... how do i make it not ask me for the password?04:56
ardchoillefyrestrtr: some, yes04:56
XplOzIonthanks fyrestrtr04:56
josh__i had it fixed that way before but i dont remember what i did to make it that way04:56
josh__and i was at home in front of the computer using the user/groups gui to change stuff...04:56
josh__lol04:56
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fyrestrtrjosh__: for your safety and the safety of others, always enter the password.04:56
josh__which i cant do right now because i cant get freenx working04:56
aliwhat's the reasons why ubuntu is better that debian?04:56
eitch0000where would I go for info on webcams?04:56
fyrestrtrali: this chatroom04:57
fyrestrtr!webcam04:57
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:57
ardchoilleali: ubuntuforums.org04:57
josh__ali... ubuntu is user friendly while still being powerful enough for the guru's04:57
thiago__eitch0000: vc eh brasileiro ?04:57
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aliok, ill check out that forum too.04:57
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oskudeali: better is relative... but ubuntu is "better" for first time users (atm)04:58
gregg__ubuntu is good for people who don't want to spend half their life just installing and configuring their OS04:58
dr_willisubuntu is good for people.04:58
dr_willis:)04:58
josh__fyrestrtr: i understand its safer for other users... but it is my personal computer and constantly having to input the password each time will just make me want to su it and that could be more dangerous :)04:58
dr_willisBuilds Character!04:58
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srikathello04:59
fyrestrtrhey, its brown and has got a cool, 'we are the world'-type logo. What more you want?04:59
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gregg__josh__: well, you don't need to enter it each time, sudo remembers your password for I think 10 minutes04:59
ardchoillelol04:59
srikatdoes ubuntu installer ask for GRUB location? if so, is it C: drive?04:59
josh__yeah but when i sit in front of this box... lol i change everything05:00
fyrestrtrsrikat: normally, it doesn't.05:00
josh__constantly :)05:00
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oskudesrikat: sadly the graphical installer doesnt ask for a location for the grub05:00
gregg__srikat: grub is installed into the MBR05:00
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srikatfor a comp that has xp pro running at C:, is the MBR on C:?05:00
oskudesrikat: and fyi: c: is no partition05:00
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gregg__srikat: no, the MBR is outside any partition05:01
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srikatI've taken a screenshot of my current partitions..can you guys kindly look at it and tell me where MBR would be?05:01
gregg__srikat: the MBR is the first sector of the hard disk, it gets executed first when booting05:01
srikathttp://aycu03.webshots.com/image/1522/1002706921317273764_rs.jpg05:01
oskudesrikat: you dont see mbr on any partition tool. theres only one mbr on disk, and its in the first cylinder of the whole disk05:02
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ardchoillesrikat: It most likely won't be on a screenshot of partitions. MBR is the first 512 kb of a hard drive.05:02
grampajoeHow do I get an MTP mp3 player (Creative Zen Vision:M) to be recognized by Linux?05:02
gregg__ardchoille: byte :)05:02
srikatwhat if there are 3 disks, like in the jpg I linked above?05:02
gregg__grampajoe: gphoto2 can do it05:02
oskudesrikat: and your mbr is on the disk you said to be used as boot device in bios05:02
ardchoilleoh, sorry, byte, no kb05:02
interfeargrampajoe: i have a creative zen micro and it detects it05:02
oskudesrikat: wh, *the windows boot loader05:03
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BarryAllenhi all05:03
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SonobanaHello! How i change default language of dapper live-cd05:03
srikathmm..I guess I understood05:03
grampajoeI've been trying many, many things over the past two days and I can't get anything like Gnomad2 or Kzenexplorer to recognize that it's connected05:03
srikatlet me just proceed w/ the installation and see what happens05:04
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grampajoegregg_: Why would a program for digital cameras work?05:04
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meng /quit05:04
Chrono_triggerI know this is hardware related05:04
josh__so... where can i get some info on takin out the password for sudo?05:04
CappOwhere can i find a list with wireless cards that ubuntu natively supports ?05:04
oskudesrikat: i dont really know where the graphical installer install grub... on the disk you installed ubuntu, or on the first disk(master) on ide1,...05:05
jszaszvariJosh - ??05:05
ardchoillejosh__: Why do you want to do that?05:05
gregg__grampajoe: MTP is very similar to an earlier protocol used for digital cameras IIRC. anyway, gphoto2 support MTP05:05
josh__sudo = password right now... i want to sudo = nopassword05:05
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josh__because that is how i had it set before... it was just les time consumming05:05
moonunitmy computer wont let me login anymore, so i threw my live disk in and booted it, its telling me that disk space is low on my primary05:05
jszaszvarisuso is just ur userpass05:05
ardchoillejosh__: So that would effectively make you root all the time05:05
moonunitany ideas?05:05
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gregg__josh__: visudo05:06
josh__yeah... but without being root05:06
gregg__josh__: man sudoers05:06
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fyrestrtrjosh__: the difference being.....?05:06
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josh__its not quite as dangerous as being root... but its not as annoying as having to constantly typ in the password05:06
josh__the difference is if im root any command i do will be done as root...05:06
grampajoeIt isn't detected by gphoto2, either05:06
josh__as me i will have to type sudo for the commands i cant already do05:07
moonunitguys i really could use some help, my computer wont let me login anymore, so i threw my live disk in and booted it, its telling me that disk space is low on my primary05:07
gregg__grampajoe: maybe it's broken?05:07
vorbotejosh__, tou can always type "sudo -s -H" and get a true root console05:07
CappOwhere can i find a list with wireless cards that ubuntu natively supports ?05:07
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quiethow do i get gconf and the whole 'System Tools' menu?05:07
grampajoegregg_: It worked just fine yesterday on a different computer, it was running WinXP05:07
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XplOzIonhow can i fix this error in phpmyadmin05:08
XplOzIonhow can i fix this error in phpmyadmin #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)05:08
fyrestrtrquiet: type gconf-editor05:08
gregg__http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php05:08
oskudemoonunit: it would help if you had an error message about the login05:08
gregg__grampajoe: which zen do you own?05:08
fyrestrtrXplOzIon: how is that a ubuntu question?05:08
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grampajoegregg_: Vision:M05:08
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srikatperhaps not the right place to ask, but has anyone tried Mepis?05:08
josh__ XplOzIon use a user that is alloowed to mess with the db05:08
ardchoillejosh__: doing sudo = nopassword you can rm -rf while making a mistake with the path and end up erasing the entire hdd05:08
gregg__grampajoe: it's supported, look a the list05:08
quietfyrestrtr, yes, but how do i get the menu in the gnome main-menu?05:08
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fyrestrtrquiet: use alacarte and add it.05:09
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grampajoegregg_: Yep, I see it there, but it still isn't detected05:09
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josh__ur right ... but i still have to type in sudo to do that05:09
XplOzIonjosh__: root is able but dont know whats that error05:09
quietok05:09
gregg__grampajoe: is it even recognized by the kernel05:09
trev__is anyone having a problem with update manager crashing gnome and logging you out?05:09
fyrestrtrjosh__: man sudoers05:09
ardchoillejosh__: at least when sudo asks you for a password, it makes you think about what you are doing. But, just my opinion.05:09
josh__XplOzIon: so you added root as a valid db user?05:09
moonunitoskude: if you could just tell me where the swap file thats apparently full is, i could delete its contents05:09
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EnverexErm, I think I've got a serious problem. Whenever I use Synaptic I keep getting a message saying my Package Cache file is corrupted.05:09
grampajoegregg_: How would I find that out?  I see it listed when I run lsusb, would that mean it is?05:09
kumwhere is irc?05:09
XplOzIonjosh__ yeah i was reinstalling all now i get that error05:09
oskudemoonlite: theres no swap file, just a swap partition05:09
XplOzIonjosh__ any idea how to fix it?05:09
gregg__plugin it in and check dmesg | tail05:10
josh__and i respect your opinion... but we in the south have a saying "different strokes for different folks"05:10
gregg__-in05:10
fyrestrtrkum: you are on it right now05:10
moonunitoskude: its moonunit, and is there any way i can get into the partition to clear it out05:10
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ardchoillejosh__: Fair enough :)05:10
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kumlol, yeah, but someone told me doin /charset ISO-8859-2 in irc05:10
adelalo05:10
josh__XplOzIon: no... i wish i did...05:10
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confusedI cant get nvidia to run properly, can someone help?05:10
ernstpdoes anyone know how to configure the default OSS sound device?05:11
josh__i ran into too many errors trying to set up a db so i said screw it and started learning perl instead lol05:11
oskudemoonunit: hmm, adaik it will be erased on every boot... just look for a partition with format "swap"05:11
CappOwhere can i find a list with wireless cards that ubuntu natively supports ?05:11
Apeironhey all :) i want to know if there is a way to force the bootsplash to use a special resolution, or something like that? thx for help in advance :)05:11
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oskudemoonunit: *afaik05:11
grampajoegregg_: [17182139.512000]  usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6, looks like it's recognized05:11
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fyrestrtrdreamlinux looks so ... dreamy lol05:11
moonunitoskude: i know right where the partiton is, how do i clear it manuallly05:11
ernstpI have two soundcards, and set the correct one in gnome-sound, and ALSA-apps uses that one. But OSS apps uses the other soundcard!!05:11
gregg__grampajoe: looks alright05:11
josh__ernst p whirl?05:11
Enverex.... anyone? It kinda sounds like the entire of my APT is borked05:12
ardchoilleCappO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport05:12
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fyrestrtrgrampajoe: that just means the system detected something was plugged into the usb port, that doesn't mean it can use it.05:12
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oskudemoonlite: i doubt theres anything in it... but: mkswap05:12
helfrezApeiron: vga= to ur options05:12
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moonunitoskude: im telling you, its moonunit05:12
ernstpjosh__: what?05:12
helfrezApeiron: vga=791 is 1024x768 795=1280x102405:12
Apeironhelfrez, thx, can i simply write vga=1024x786 for example?05:12
josh__nothing05:12
josh__lol05:12
Apeironhelfrez, kk, much thanks05:12
Jenkinsis there a way to change your username after install?05:12
fyrestrtrgrampajoe: example, I plugin my WM5 device, I'll get the same type of message, but its completely unsupported.05:12
oskudemoonunit: moonlite sorry, im hasty with autocomp....05:12
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helfrezApeiron: np, just append that to the rest of your grub option05:12
Apeironhelfrez, yupp05:13
gregg__fyrestrtr: yeah, but the zen vision:m is supported05:13
grampajoefyrestrtr: I've found people who've had no trouble using a Zen Vision:M in Linux05:13
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ernstpJenkins: it's not easy, and there's no gui for it05:13
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CappOthanx ardchoille05:13
Apeironhelfrez, on my laptop the tft screen cant interpolate, so those 640 resolution looks really bad ^^05:13
EnverexOk, as no-one is going to help there.... what do I need to do to get the Gnome frequency scaling monitor working?05:13
ardchoilleCappO: You're welcome :)05:13
fyrestrtrgrampajoe: my point is, you might have to do something else other than just plugging it in. Don't assume that because you see that line, everything is ready :)05:13
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grampajoefyrestrtr: Oh, I know, I just can't figure out what I need to do to make  it ready05:14
Kr0ntab!log05:14
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs05:14
aliIm not in  the sudo file, should i use visuod to change it?05:14
grampajoeI have the latest libusb, libmtp, and libnjb05:14
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Apeironhelfrez, oh, one question, should i append it to the kernel options or to the ramdisk options?05:14
grampajoeI've done everything Google has told me to do, and still I can't use it05:15
Apeirons/ramdisk/initrd05:15
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gregg__grampajoe: gphoto2 --auto-detect05:15
ardchoilleali: if you're not in sudoers, then using sudo visudo won't help you05:15
helfrezApeiron: kernel options, and yes i have a lcd that looks horribel at 640 also05:15
Apeironhelfrez, hehe, k, thanks05:15
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helfrezApeiron: np netime05:15
grampajoegregg_: It just says "Model                    Port" on one line, then nothing05:16
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fyrestrtrali: add yourself to the admin group05:16
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grampajoegregg_: Would I need to run gphoto2 as root?05:16
beerfanIs Edgy Eft stable enough to use full time?05:16
gregg__grampajoe: --list-cameras shows your player as being supported? maybe your gphoto2 is too old05:16
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moonunitoskude: no dice on that command, its saying that my windows drives are too full05:16
fyrestrtrgregg__: that's good news, because I wanted to buy one of those :D05:16
gregg__grampajoe: usually not, but give it a try05:16
grampajoegregg_: Didn't work :/05:17
fyrestrtrApeiron: kernel05:17
oskudemoonunit: who is telling you that ? and whats windows partition ?05:17
grampajoegregg_: Hmm, actually it doesn't list the Vision:M05:17
grampajoegregg_: I'll try upgrading05:17
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ardchoilleWowzers! Someone keeps logs of this channel.. nice :)05:18
moonunitoskude: when i fire up admin-disks it tells me in the bottom right corner of my desktop '/dev/hda1 is 98% full'05:18
gregg__fyrestrtr: I wouldn't... even if it is somewhate supported, usb mass storage is the way to go (works everywhere)05:18
josh__moonunit: well then delete some stuff lol05:19
moonunitjosh__: its not really that simple05:19
josh__why not?05:19
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gregg__iriver Txx rock. although they are shipped with MTP they can be changed to UMS via firmware upgrade05:19
moonuniti have important stuff on it?05:19
josh__lol just delete /home05:19
josh__lol05:19
oskudemoonunit: and what partition is that and in what format ? like / on ext3 ?05:19
josh__dont05:19
fyrestrtrmoonunit: how big of a partition is it?05:19
josh__it was a joke05:19
EnverexOk. I have three questions. One is a serious issue, one is a serious pain in the ass and the other is a serious drain on my battery. First, whenever I use Synaptic it tells me my package cache file is corrupted. How do I "uncorrupt it"? Second is whenever I move any icons around on the Gnome desktop it acts like I have Control held down (and copies if I drag an icon to another place on the desktop) and the third issue is what do I need to05:19
Enverex do to get the gnome frequency scaling applet on the panel to work? It says I don't have support for scaling.05:19
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moonunitits a 20gb partition in fat3205:20
moonunitits my windows install05:20
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jerwarefellaz.05:20
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josh__fat32?!05:20
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beerfanEnverex, since i just had to do this you type "sudo apt-get install -f" to uncorrupt your cache05:20
jerwarecan some one provide me a url to the ubuntu faqs?05:20
oskudemoonlite: well, then login in ubuntu shouldnt complain about that..05:20
moonunitjosh__: its a goddamn windowws install, gotta play UT somehow05:20
josh__well i suppose its ok cuz atleast he can write to windows partition05:20
alifyrertrtrim already on the admin group05:20
Brokensteincan anyone help with my USB HD? http://brokenstein.pastebin.com/75644005:20
josh__lol moonunit05:20
fyrestrtr!faq05:20
ubotufaq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage05:20
oskudemoonlite: sorry again, :/05:20
josh__u do understand ut is linux native right?05:20
grampajoegregg_: Unfortunately my Vision:M was a gift, I would've rather had the much more readily supported iPod :/05:21
fyrestrtrali: then you can sudo05:21
josh__that means it was designed on linux and runs better then windows05:21
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josh__just like americas army05:21
moonunitoskude: the problem is, it still wont work05:21
josh__ok moonunit ... here is what you are gonna want to do... delete windows :P05:21
fyrestrtrgrampajoe: I'll *gladly* take it off your hands. The V:M is far better than the ipod.05:21
jerwarejosh__ : so cedega is not needed for UT ?05:21
oskudemoonunit: maybe you should go back to start. boot ubuntu, go to ctrl+alt+f1 and try to login and tell use the error message05:21
gregg__ipod? god beware!05:21
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josh__jerware... nope05:21
fyrestrtrroflmao @ josh__05:21
Brokensteinkill m$ and dont look back baby05:21
interfearjerware: you can run ut on linux05:21
moonunitoskude: ctrl alt f1?05:22
jerwarejosh__ : thats great !!05:22
jerwaresave me $1505:22
josh__:)05:22
interfearanyone know if counterstrike runs on linux?05:22
oskudemoonunit: that gets you to the text console05:22
beerfanfyrestrtr, V:M is MTP only. How do you use it on linux?05:22
jribdoes anyone know if bbdock is packaged in any of the ubuntu repos?  Or can you recommend a similar dock app?05:22
josh__hold please...phone05:22
moonunitoskude: will try, brb05:22
ardchoille!info bbdock05:22
ubotuPackage bbdock does not exist in dapper05:22
Brokensteininterfear: i know people who play it05:22
interfearBrokenstein: without a windows emulation?05:22
ardchoillejrib: I guess it isn't05:22
dfcarneymoonunit: for reference, ctrl+alt+f7 bringe you back to the window manager05:22
dfcarney*brings05:22
gregg__Enverex: what kind of cpu do you have?05:22
ardchoillejrib: there is pypanel and docker. I have used both and they are cool, IMHO05:23
ryan_narutowhere is the folder for usb drive when it mounted it recognizes my drive using dmesg but thunar and nautilus cant see it05:23
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BarryAllenhi all05:23
jribardchoille: I'll give it a try, thanks05:23
Brokensteininterfear: not sure but they have really crap hardware so id guess without05:23
Enverexgregg__, Pentium 405:23
ardchoillejrib: a word of caution, don't run pypanel while gnome-panel is running05:23
gregg__Enverex: it probably doesn't support frequency scaling05:23
grampajoefyrestrtr: I agree that the Vision:M itself is better than an iPod, but what's the use if my PC thinks it's just a brick with a USB connector?05:23
oskuderyan_naruto: i think in /media/usbdrive05:23
jribardchoille: k, I'm actually planning on using it in fluxbox05:23
Enverexgregg__, It does, I had it working when I used Gentoo before05:23
fyrestrtrgrampajoe: I'm sure you can get it to work, just have some patience.05:23
beerfando universe (multiverse?) packages ever get updated? half the programs I use are like 4 versions old.05:24
ardchoillejrib: Awesome, I used them in openbox and liked them05:24
BarryAllenim trying to use my radeon 9100 / igp (mobile), without success in dapper, ... the kernel module is up... my driver in xorg.conf is "radeon" but i got the message in the Xorg.log (II) RADEON(0): [agp]  You may want to make sure the agpgart kernel module05:24
BarryAllenis loaded before the radeon kernel module.05:24
beerfanDoes one have to upgrade to edgy to use recent programs?05:24
josh__ok where were we05:25
josh__ahh yes05:25
oskudeBarryAllen: "ati" should load "radeon" automaticly...05:25
ryan_narutohow can i manually mount my usb drive????05:25
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EnverexBarryAllen, Does it work with the fglrx module? (ATi's official driver)05:25
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josh__did moon already leave?05:25
gregg__Enverex: you need to load the speedstep module - normally this should happen automatically05:25
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BarryAllenEnverex, i tried that, but the oficcial doc, says, my chipset (igp), does not support 3d....05:25
oskuderyan_naruto: something like: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/foo05:26
BarryAllenoskude, to be sure the radeon driver is loaded after agpgart, i have turnd off my X session, removed the module radeon, loaded again the module radeon, and up the X sessoin....05:26
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BarryAllenoskude, and have the same error.05:26
EnverexBarryAllen, Well if the official Doc says it doesn't support 3D then 3D isn't going to work with any driver is it, lol05:27
oskudeBarryAllen: :/ and what was the problem before you started to hack ? X didnt start ?05:27
LordElphis there an easy way to "unload" the desktop and drop back to a console05:27
BarryAllenenraGe, the kernel have support to it.... (drm)... lol!05:27
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mineraleHi, does anyone know the name of that multiverse package that allows for mplayer to be used as a plugin in firefox ?05:27
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BarryAllenoskude, works... but without dri :(05:27
ardchoilleLordElph: I had to do that when I installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia, you can ctrl+alt+f1 and do sudo init3 .. that will get you to runlevel 305:28
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oskudeBarryAllen: i think ati/radeon doesnt have dri (if thats the 3d hardware acceleration part)05:28
LordElphardchoille: smashing, thanks for that05:28
stefg!info mozilla-mplayer05:28
teicahis there a gui for viewing/extracting/adding files in a *.deb ?05:28
ardchoilleYou're welcome :)05:28
ubotumozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB05:28
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sri_I want to maintain some intra net But i am a beginner of server administration;can any one tell where to start......05:29
oskudeBarryAllen: so you want 3d hardware acceleration, right ?05:29
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mineralestefg: here's the odd bit, I installed mozilla-mplayer, and it only works with ubuntu's build for firefox... I was wishing to use the mozilla build05:29
EnverexBarryAllen, DRM != 3D support...05:29
mjrBarryAllen, oskude, 9100 _should_ have 3D straight from the box with the free radeon driver05:29
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oskudesri_: google knows plenty... wikipedia is good to...05:30
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EnverexBarryAllen, (you said enraGe  last time btw)05:30
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mjrI'm not sure how the IGP model relates to this, if at all05:30
BarryAllenenraGe, so sorry... im tring to have dri05:30
oskudemjr: hmm, man sais ati/radeon doesnt have 3d hardware acceleration... did i read wrong ?05:30
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BarryAllenEnverex, : so sorry, im trying to have dri05:30
grampajoegregg_: I upgraded gphoto2, and it detects the Vision:M, so... how do I use this thing to upload mp3s? :D05:30
mjroskude, what man?05:31
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oskudemjr: man ati05:31
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Feral_KidAnyone on that is using a AMD64 machine? I was gettiing ready to re-compile my kernel, and realized that I am not sure what to do as far as processors go. I am using the 32-bit version of Dapper, and I don't want to change that... So I do put in the configuration that this is a P4?05:31
gregg__grampajoe: the command line interface? man gphoto2 :)05:31
oskudeok, this is new to me "hardware 3D acceleration (experimental on R300 and R400 series cards)"05:32
detienhi guys, I installed gcc but when I try gcc in terminal. it said command not found05:32
EnverexBarryAllen, All I had to do to get my ATi mobility working was install the ATi driver with Synaptic and change the xorg.conf file to use fglrx instead of radeon05:32
grampajoegregg_: Alright, well thanks for your help, I think I can actually use my $300 brick now05:32
mjroskude, the ATI driver doesn't actually handle Radeons but older Atis, it will hand off Radeons to the radeon driver, whose man page you should be looking at05:32
gregg__grampajoe: or use gphotofs, more comfortable :)05:32
tristanmikedetien: install "build-essential"05:32
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bclhow do you turn off part/join messages in xchat-gnome?05:32
BarryAllenEnverex, i tried fglrx but.... fglrxinfo dont reports use of dri05:32
oskudemjr: yup, just read it again, sorry havent had an radeon for while (and that experimental wouldnt have been supported by my card)05:33
EnverexBarryAllen, Do you have dri enabled in the xorg.conf file?05:33
Feral_KidEnverex> Yeah, it works, but it still uses the Mesa libs, as opposed to using fglrx libs...05:33
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BarryAllenEnverex, yes ... i have dri and glx in the  modules section05:33
EnverexBarryAllen,  Does the xorg log file explain any errors?05:33
detientristanmike|  thanks. I'm installing it right now05:34
oskudeBarryAllen: i assume you will be installing fglrx in the end, as it sais experimental for radeon..05:34
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amarokkerIs there any way for evolution to open web links in a new tab inside epiphany instead of a new window05:34
BarryAllenoskude, i tried fglrx first.... now, im trying to use "radeon"05:34
EnverexBarryAllen, radeon doesn't support hardware 3d accelleration anyway afaik05:34
oskudeBarryAllen: is your card supperted by the experimental driver ?05:34
mjroskude, the r200 driver (radeons <=9250) is actually pretty functional, the r300 (radeon 9500-x850) is more experimental05:34
mjrEnverex, bzzt, see above05:34
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Enverexmjr, Erm, where does that mention 3D Support? That's just normal display support and 2D Accelleration if it doesn't say otherwise05:35
flodineanyone on 64 bit ubuntu running good05:35
NV_The_Riperyop a tous05:35
mjrEnverex, my context was 3d support. Read again in that context.05:36
Enverexmjr, hmm, where is your source?05:36
oskudemjr: ah, you mean 3d hw accel works an ALL radeons, but only experimental on r300 and r400 ?05:36
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detienI have very low sound volume in Ubuntu. I already turned everything on in alsamixer. Is there anyway I can adjust it?05:36
BarryAllenoskude, i dont know... where can i found the "experimental" driver?05:36
mjroskude, not ALL; the new r500 families are completely unsupported (>x1000)05:36
oskudeBarryAllen: its all in the radeon driver05:36
flodinei want to install ubuntu but is flashplayer for 64 bit firefox not working05:36
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oskudemjr: ok but lover than r300 should have 3d hw accel ?05:36
oskude*lower05:37
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mjroskude, but yes, r200 and earlier ones have a pretty solid driver, and the r300 driver (which also supports r400 cards, that is, up to x850), do have some experimental support (still crashy etc)05:37
knapper.05:37
BarryAllenoskude, so, yes is supported, i got in Xorg.log:  ATI Radeon 9100 IGP05:37
oskudemjr: ok. thanx for clearing that05:37
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mjrEnverex, dri.sourceforge.net, r300.sourceforge.net, my own x800 card at home running 3D with the X.org drivers in Dapper05:37
grampajoegregg_: With gphotofs, would I run it like "gphotofs /media/mp3", or am I misreading the usage?05:37
mjr(also crashing on some programs, but good enough to run 3860x1200 tuxracer ;P )05:38
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oskudeBarryAllen: sorry, i allways used only fglrx as i read it that only r300+ have 3d hardware acceleration, and that allso in experimental state. sorry my mistake05:38
BarryAllenoskude, no problems dude05:39
fuocohow do i enable beagle searching in deskbar ?05:39
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josh__hey... question...can u still freenx/vnc to a server if the xorg is XGL?05:39
gregg__grampajoe: never used it, I don't know05:39
Enverexmjr, What does glxinfo say for direct render and opengl vendor string say?05:39
josh__and if not... how can i set it differently for remote logins05:39
EnverexBarryAllen, I'm using a Mobility 9000 so I don't see why this would be so different for you05:40
mjrEnverex, direct rendering: Yes, OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc., OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20040924 TCL05:40
BarryAllenEnverex, :01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] 05:40
mjrEnverex, that's my x800 desktop box, of course. I actually have a thinkpad with mobile 9000 (not accessible at the moment) and 3d works by default with that too, with the free drivers05:41
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Enverexmjr, hmm, which is better for the 9000, free or official?05:42
amarokker*sighs* once again, is there any way for evolution to open web links in a new tab inside epiphany instead of a new window? I couldnt find the tab-settings in epiphany05:42
mjrBarryAllen, Enverex, as I said, I'm not quite sure if the IGP model is properly supported by the out-of-the-box driver version. It could be, mind you, I'm just not sure.05:42
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EnverexBarryAllen, ah, yours is the R300...05:42
EnverexBarryAllen,  0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]  (rev 01)05:42
HermanDEfdsa05:42
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mjrhmm, true, RS300M, weird... I didn't think 9100s used 300 series stuff05:42
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[Ex0r] how do I configure gamepads in ubuntu?05:42
aikon_is there some chanel dedicated to xubuntu?05:43
ardchoille#xubuntu05:43
Enverexaikon_, just a random guess but.. #xubuntu, heh05:43
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ardchoilleit might be #xubuntu-desktop05:43
aikon_xubuntu :That channel doesn't exist05:43
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jon27kcdetien, I know this sounds obvious, but is there a volume ctrl on your speakers or headphones that cd. have been changed by mistake? That's happened to me and it took me a half hour to realize it once.05:43
beerfanassuming I installed some edgy packages which broke stuff and want to get rid of them so I can go back to the dapper versions, what command would I use? dpkg --purge name isn't really working05:43
EnverexNow talking on #xubuntu05:43
Enverex* Topic for #xubuntu is: Official Xubuntu Channel05:43
Brokensteincan anyone help me with my usb hard drive? i kinda need it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1886705:44
ardchoilleaikon_: It most certainly does, do: /cs info #xubuntu05:44
aikon_yeah its true05:44
aikon_Thanks05:44
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BarryAllenBrokenstein, say.... what's the problem?05:44
detienjon27kc|  I've checked everything05:44
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mineraleIf i copy a string from firefox, then close firefox, then I try to paste it - it does not work ... .why is that ?05:45
jon27kcdetien, I lose sound completely a lot and have to restart ALSA or mess with ESD, but if alsamixer shows all output volume levels set normally, I don't know what to suggest... I experimented just now with negative results.05:45
[Ex0r] Okay, I take it nobody knows the answer to that question. That's the only question i've seen unanswered.05:46
gnomefreakminerale: its been like that for a long time i have yet figured out why its that way05:46
[Ex0r] minerale- because once you close firefox, it loses it's clipboard information05:47
ardchoilleminerale: That is the fault of firefox. gnome 2.14 no longer has that problem.05:47
EnverexOk. I have two questions. One is a serious pain in the ass and the other is a serious drain on my battery. Whenever I move any icons around on the Gnome desktop it acts like I have Control held down (and copies if I drag an icon to another place on the desktop) and the other issue is what do I need to do to get the gnome frequency scaling applet on the panel to work? It says I don't have support for scaling.05:47
mineraleI remember when using kde, there was a little clipboard utility that would monitor the clipboard and keep the buffer alive even when the program who created the copy buffer died, thus it would allow for you to paste something after it's been copied05:47
BrokensteinBarryAllen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1886705:47
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gnomefreakardchoille: yes it does :(05:47
Enverexminerale, klipper05:47
mineralewould klipper work in gnome ?05:47
grampajoeHow do I mount an mp3 player using gphotofs?05:47
Enverexminerale, yup05:48
Tommy2k4`!nvidia05:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:48
gnomefreakminerale: there is a gnome clipboard i cant remember name off hand05:48
Enverex... glipper?05:48
Enverexlol05:48
gnomefreak!info gnome-clipboard05:48
ubotuPackage gnome-clipboard does not exist in dapper05:48
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mjrgnomefreak, minerale ardchoille et al, clipboard information isn't copied anywhere by default, the holding application has it privately. Hence it'll go away if it closes. There are steps taken by freedesktop.org to spesify a proper solution (it's not trivial to determine in which format(s) the data should be copied for example, if the app closes)05:49
mineraleit's been discontinued05:49
ardchoillegnomefreak: gnome 2.14 fixed that little problem. I can copy (ctrl+c) in one app, close that app, open another app and do paste (ctrl+v) and it works fine.05:49
mineralehttp://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-devel-list/2004-March/msg00046.html05:49
Enverexardchoille, Doesn't work for me05:49
gnomefreakardchoille: doesnt work here either05:49
Enverexardchoille, Evolution and Firefox both clear the clipboard for me05:49
mineraleardchoille: neither for me05:49
gnomefreaknever has05:49
ardchoilleI guess I have a magical version of gnome05:49
mjrardchoille, what app did you try? Are you sure you closed the app and not just one window of it?05:50
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EnverexGrrr, klipper doesn't work properly, it opens a tiny window with the systray icon in rather than being in the actual systray05:50
fuocohow do i enable beagle searching in deskbar ?05:50
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amarokkerwhats the default news reader for gnome?05:50
Enverexgregg__, speedsteplib module seems to be loaded...05:51
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Juhazamarokker, and just what is news reader? usenet? rss?05:51
amarokkerrss.05:51
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fishyHow do I set up the last.fm player on Ubuntu?05:51
amarokkersorry, meant feed reader05:51
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grampajoeWhen I try to mount an mp3 player with gphotofs, I get the error "fuse: failed to exec fusermount: No such file or directory", does this mean it can't find the fusermount command?05:52
MarcNfuoco: add to the panel the deskbar  (assuming you already have beagle installed)05:52
amarokkerwhen i try to subscribe to a feed on epiphany it tells me none is installed...i think there are several feed readers installed from kubuntu.05:52
Paladineno it means there isn't a directory already in existance for fuse to mount to05:52
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fuocoMarcN: i did. but in the prefs i don't see the beagle live search05:53
ardchoillemjr: I opened gedit, type some text, highlighted it, ctrl+c, closed gedit, opened a gnome-terminal, pressed ctrl+shift+v and it pasted. I close the term, did ctrl+f2 ctrl+v and it pasted there too05:53
EnverexYou know it's hotter in England right now than it is in Florida and has been for the last few weeks. This is insane...05:53
MrRioI'm setting up Trac, I'm getting "No such file or directory: '/var/trac/VERSION'" in my apache error log05:53
Juhazamarokker, there's no default or official, but there are bunch that fit well into gnome05:53
MarcNfuoco: I see Beagle and Beagle Live (and bunch of others)05:53
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fuocoMarcN: i only have beagle. ...05:53
Juhazamarokker, liferea, straw and blam at least, probably more.05:53
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ardchoilleThere was an official statement from the gnome devs that gnome 2.14 fixed that problem.05:53
_stev_Enverex: every day is a step towards the lovely winter05:54
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MarcNfuoco: I have beagle, beagle-backend-evolution, kio-beagle (for KDE), libbeagle0 and python-beagle installed.05:54
ardchoilleJuhaz: Did gnome 2.14 fix the problem of the ctrl+c clipboard being cleared when the app closes?05:54
Enverexardchoille, Any idea why klipper makes a little window for its systray icon rather than going into the REAL systray?05:54
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ardchoilleEnverex: No idea, I don't use kde apps05:55
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moonunitwell i have no errors to report05:55
moonunitbut it still wont work05:55
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Juhaz2.12 did, partially, though maybe it's been improved for 2.1405:55
disposable_mikeEnverex: it's because it's looking for the KDE taskbar, when you're running it inside gnome05:55
ardchoilleJuhaz: I thought so, thanks05:55
fuocoMarcN: ah, python-beagle is not installed. i wonder why it's not pulled05:55
Enverexdisposable_mike, grrr, stupid KDE apps. Other programs are ok05:55
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rubis there one sock proxy for linux ?05:56
disposable_mikeEnverex: that one specifically works with the kdelibs, so i think that's why it misbehaves05:56
MarcNfuoco: not sure if I explictly installed it.   Can't hurt05:56
EnverexSo, does anyone have any ideas about my two annoying issues that I'd really like to get fixed?05:56
MarcNRub: tsocks05:56
rubwhere download it ?05:56
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kaffienanyone here using ubuntu in an office setting??05:57
sjbrownyup05:57
MarcNrub: sudo apt-get install tsocks  (or use synaptic)05:57
kaffienhow many users have you got on ubuntu?05:58
MarcNkaffien: I am.05:58
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Brokensteinim setting een an office chair05:58
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derekSwhat term is ubuntu emulating? xterm? linux term? vt100?05:58
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MarcNkaffien: ubuntu is what I run on my laptop connecting to corp stuff like exchange.05:58
kaffieni have about 30 pc's that im thinking about upgrading to linux05:58
derekSi am having char/redreaw issues with putty05:58
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disposable_mikederekS: are you connecting to ubuntu, or from?05:59
kaffienthese are standard office users who need,  web, office products like spreasheets a wordprocessor etc05:59
disposable_mikederekS: retarded question, never mind05:59
MarcNkaffien: there are a few MS Office docs that open office has problems with.  but not many.   Just be aware of things like word macros, locked fields in XLS docs, etc.05:59
disposable_mikederekS: gnome-terminal is the defaul terminal app with ubuntu05:59
derekSdisposable_mike: to, using putty05:59
kaffienyeah i had thought about that too06:00
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kaffienthis is very much a future thingy06:00
derekSi can set it to the correct term, i just don't know which06:00
ardchoilleEnverex , gnomefreak , minerale , See the section "Clipboard" here:  http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/rnusers.html06:00
gregg__derekS: putty uses its own terminal emulation, which might be flaky06:00
Bellerophonhello, I got some troubles upgrading warthy to breezy(only cd I could find to upgrade from), and get the next error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1886806:00
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derekSgregg__: i can chose the term06:00
ravenhvisHeyaho06:00
kaffienmy biggest blocks are,  excel docs,  quickbooks,  and eeeevil exchange server06:00
disposable_mikederekS: i'd just go with a straight vt100, unless that gives you problems06:00
Enverexardchoille, Well no matter what it says, it still doesn't work06:01
derekSdisposable_mike: lemme try that06:01
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kaffieni've already put a gentoo server on the network for filesharing ... take some load off the poor exchange server06:01
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gregg__derekS: you can choose the type, but putty doesn't use gnome-terminal, for example06:01
derekSdisposable_mike: there go m colors :)06:01
derekSgregg__: i know that06:01
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ardchoilleEnverex: That would make me think that your gnome is somehow broken.06:02
gammamutehello06:02
derekSbut gnome-terminal has no effect on htis06:02
disposable_mikederekS: right, that was unneccessary information06:02
rubis easy to configuring one firewall in ubuntu ?06:02
paul_Is there a way to take my favorites used in Microsoft Internet Explorer, and import them into Mozilla Firefox on Ubuntu?06:02
gammamutehello06:02
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disposable_mikedereks: the only thing that really matters is what the SSH or whatever server is running, and what putty is running06:02
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mineraleardchoille: try this: open firefox, copy the url, close firefox and make sure it's closed, then reopen it and try to paste06:02
Enverexardchoille, and most other people in this channel apparently, and my other PC....06:02
derekSdisposable_mike: i don't like vt100... no color :(06:03
gammamutehello06:03
derekSchecking the charsetn ow though06:03
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detien!chm06:03
ubotuI know nothing about chm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:03
gammamutehello06:04
ardchoilleminerale: There are loots of things in ff that don't conform to some of the gnome standards, that's the fault of firefox, not gnome.06:04
rubis easy to configuring one firewall in ubuntu ?06:04
ardchoillebbiab06:04
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derekSdisposable_mike: still no luckk06:04
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detienHow do I read chm file on Ubuntu?06:04
disposable_mikedetien: install xchm06:04
ajmitchgammamute: you've said hello enough times, stop now06:04
grampajoeWhen I try running gphotofs to mount an mp3 player, I get the error: "fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory", but it was working fine before I rebooted, what can I do to fix it?06:04
gammamutemitch, I was just saying hi.  you cant say hi back?  how rude.  are you american?06:04
Subhuman!ask06:05
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:05
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Enverexardchoille, Evolution does it too. I think that IS part of Gnome06:05
Subhumangammamute, this is for support, dont spam the channel up, jus makes it harder to read.06:05
CntryboyCan someone tell me why java isn't working with konqueror web browser?06:05
detiendisposable_mike|  I did apt-get xchm but E: Couldn't find package xchm06:05
gammamuteI wasnt spamming.  I was saying HI06:05
b14ck73425what format does my music need to be in in order to burn it on an audio cd?06:05
gammamutethats really screwed up06:05
_stev_when I look at my /etc/fstab, I seen that my swap doesn't have a mount point, how do I fix this or is this normal?06:05
disposable_mikedetien: it might be in mutiverse, i forget06:05
Enverexgammamute, To who? No-one knows you and I doubt anyone cares, heh, there are over 800 people in here.06:05
disposable_mikedetien: do you have multiverse added in your repositories?06:05
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Subhumangammamute, hi isnt a question, you need help - ask, you dont - dont ask a question, go help out06:06
oskude_stev_: heres how my swap line looks like in fstab: /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       006:06
gammamuteyeah, but I intend on acting like a civil human being- I may be alone in my efforts.06:06
detiendisposable_mike|  I don't know. I'm new to linux. I just installed Ubuntu last night06:06
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ajmitchgammamute: not from the behaviour in other channels. behave here or you're out06:06
gammamutewhat are you talking about?06:06
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disposable_mikedetien: open synaptic, then go to....shoot, i can't rememebr the name of the menu option06:07
rubis easy to configuring one firewall in ubuntu ?06:07
fyrestrtr!firewall06:07
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)06:07
Subhumanrub, yes if you use firestarter06:07
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gammamutehello06:07
fishyI'm trying to install libffi4, but it says it depends on gcc-4.0-base. When I install gcc-4.0-base, it says it is already the newest version. How do I get libffi4 to install?06:07
_stev_oskude: I have the same here, so it isn't used?06:07
izuthi there. how can I add all basic development packages? there's such a task for that?06:07
disposable_mikedetien: you have to check all the repositories lists in Synaptic's options06:07
Subhuman!hi06:07
GTXWhere can I get some decent widgits on my desktop?06:07
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!06:07
gammamutethank you!06:07
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fyrestrtrizut: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:07
derekSso no one knows what term ubuntu's openssh uses?06:08
disposable_mikedetien: then do an update, then try and install xchm06:08
detiendisposable_mike|  thanks, let me try06:08
Subhumanderek_shower, what do you mean by "term"?06:08
b14ck73425what format dos my music need to be in in  order to burn it on an audio cd?06:08
izutfyrestrtr: thanks.06:08
oskude_stev_: well, "free -m" shows me: Swap:         1074          5       106806:08
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GTXWhere can I get some decent widgits on my desktop?06:08
derekSSubhuman: what does it emulate? xterm? vt100 (obv not)? linux?06:08
detiendisposable_mike|  even the community maintain one?06:08
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Subhumanb14ck73425, .wav, but use gnomebaker or k3b to do it for you.06:08
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fishyHow do I get the GNOME Listen player to install?06:08
disposable_mikeGTX: gdesklets and gdesklets-data06:08
GTXthanks disposable_mike06:08
gammamuteAJMITCH IS AN ASSHOLE WHO'S GOIN TO HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL06:08
b14ck73425ty06:08
fyrestrtrderekS: that is entirely up to the ssh client you are using, not the server.06:08
gammamuteSORRY06:09
gammamuteWRONG WINDOW06:09
SubhumanderekS,  your setting up puTTY yes? use xterm.06:09
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disposable_mikedetien: there should be one that says universe, and one that says multiverse06:09
derekSfyrestrtr: then why is my client having charset issues?06:09
Enverexrofl06:09
disposable_mikedetien: just check both of  them06:09
derekSfyrestrtr: i am trying to get mutt to work06:09
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fyrestrtrderekS: take it up with your client, as its all there, not on the server.06:09
disposable_mikethanks ajmitch06:09
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Enverexajmitch, makes you wonder which Window it was apparently for :P06:09
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fishyIs there a way to get the GNOME Listen player to install without going into an infinite loop of dependencies depending on one another?06:09
derekSfyrestrtr: heh, now i gotta find a putty channel :)06:10
JukruderekS: utf-8 doesn't work?06:10
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derekSJukru: well, its the charset of the app, not the emails06:10
fishyugh06:10
JukruderekS: aah ok06:10
fyrestrtrfishy: this is not redhat, use synaptic :)06:10
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oskudefishy:  "apt-cache search gnome listen player"  didnt give me any packages, what paclage do you mean ?06:11
grampajoeWhen I mount my mp3 player to /media/mp3, I try to browse it and it says "Unknown error code: 16", what does that mean?06:11
fishyoskude: It's not a package. http://listengnome.free.fr/06:11
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detiendisposable_mike|  I checked them and it showed this http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release: Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)06:11
oskudefishy: well, then you propably have to ask them whats wrong06:12
fishyfyrestrtr: I would, except one of the dependencies won't install. python2.0-ctypes depends on libffi4, which depends on gcc-4.0-base.06:12
fishyfyrestrtr: The only problem is that gcc-4.0-base is already the newest version, but libffi4 won't install anyway.06:12
disposable_mikedetien: uncheck the backports checkbox, as that seems to be giving you some problems06:12
oskudefishy: could allso be a bug, you better report to them06:12
GTXdisposable_mike - Where do I get more themes for gdesklets06:12
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m0gsiAnyone here using knot 1?06:13
disposable_mikeGTK: gdesklets.org, or you can google for them...not sure beyond that06:13
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rekrutacjahi all do you know how to use scanner under ubuntu? i plugged canon 3200f to usb port, it seems in device manager that it waqs recognized, but what to do now?06:15
Enverexrekrutacja, Go to Sytem at the top, then Administration then Printers06:15
_stev_oskude: ah ok, nice cmd, you have your ram,swap and buffers/cache where is that stored ?not in ram or in swap ? with 1G of ram I assume I don't need a swap or is it necessary?06:15
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detiendisposable_mike|  I got it now. Thanks06:16
oskuderekrutacja:  xsane image scanner (under graphics)06:16
void^_stev_: you should always have some swap06:16
disposable_mikedetien: sure :)06:16
rekrutacjaoskude xsane under gimp couldn't find device06:16
oskude_stev_: dunno, i allways got 1g swap, what ever amount of ram i have :)06:16
oskuderekrutacja: hmm...06:17
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_stev_oskude: ok06:17
Brokensteincan anyone help with my usb harddrive? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1886706:17
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rekrutacjaEnverex, oskude i should add my scanner in printers???06:17
Enverexrekrutacja, Yup06:17
Enverexerm06:17
Enverexwait what06:17
oskuderekrutacja: i dont think that is needed for scanning...06:17
_stev_void^: if you use the free command, you see a line with buffers/cache, what is that exactly ?06:17
EnverexI think I read something wrong here rekrutacja , lol06:17
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oskuderekrutacja: is that a scanner only or a multifunction thing (scan/print) ?06:18
void^_stev_: that's memory used minus buffers and cache, and memory free plus buffers and cache06:18
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xstHow do I install an arabic locale? In earlier versions I just did a "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and checked a subset of the language. What to do now?06:18
PingunZ I need some help, is there anyway to select options in the kernel from the console06:18
rekrutacjaoskude: its canon 3200f, just a scanner06:18
oskuderekrutacja: hmm...06:19
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Enverexrekrutacja, My bad, I must have read when you were talking about adding your printer or mixed something up with it. Yeah, run XSane from your Applications menu like oskude said06:19
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coxcan anybody help with old version of Ubuntu06:20
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rekrutacjaoskude: Enverex no devices avalaible06:20
sri_can any one tell how to put our display image in gaim....?It is impossible...?06:20
jribcox: just ask your questiona nd mention the version06:20
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rekrutacjabut it is visible in device manager06:21
rekrutacjaoskude but it is visible in device manager06:21
oskuderekrutacja: damn only as experimental, in cvs :/ http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/canon-3200f.html06:21
jribsri_: what do you mean by "display image"?06:21
oskuderekrutacja: just googled it..06:21
sri_jrib, sharing our picture(or)avatar like yahoo messenger06:21
rekrutacjaoskude: ok, i will try to run it06:21
oskuderekrutacja: :/ good luck...06:21
sri_jrib, atleast display image06:21
_stev_void^: aha great06:22
EnverexDamn, Ubuntu doesn't support Reiser406:22
jribsri_: I don't know about yahoo, here is how you do it for AIM: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q4406:22
rekrutacjaoksude hmmm how to exctract and install experimental version from cvs???06:22
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rekrutacjaoskude: is it hard to install?06:23
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joshuafolks I desperately need some help. I accidentally uninstalled xgl, when I was using it and had forgotten, now even though I've reinstalled it I cannot startup gnome or gdm...06:23
oskuderekrutacja: you have to compile it your sef06:23
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joshuaif there is a log somewhere I can type it in here (irssi)06:23
rekrutacjaoskude: ok, i give up06:23
sri_jrib, u dont know when some body chatting with u then the display photo comes ......06:23
fishyHow do you install an older version of a package. I need gcc-4.0-base but the 4.0.1-1ubuntu version, not the 4.0.3 version.06:23
rekrutacjaoskude: thanks for help (and damn canon)06:24
jribsri_: I don't use yahoo's network, it works for me on the aim network06:24
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coxso my problem is I cant install anything becouse i always displays that i dont have  gcc compiler i downloaded the version 4.1.1 and i cant install it ether help im noob :PP06:24
sri_jrib, ok thank u..06:24
oskuderekrutacja: with luck it would be just a module/driver... but you could allso try to compile that thing only locally (like, not using "make install")06:24
jribcox: do you know about apt?06:24
coxapt ?06:24
coxno06:24
coxyou mean get-apt upgrade06:25
jribjrib: open up system > administration > synaptic, synaptic is a front end for apt.  That's the best way to install things on ubuntu06:25
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grampajoeHow do I upload a file to a specific directory using gphoto2?06:25
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jribcox: what version of ubuntu are you using by the way?06:26
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fishyurg06:26
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mineraleHi, I have a huge number of .png images, individual frames for a film06:28
PingunZ!sed06:28
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:28
mineraleHi, I have a huge number of .png images, individual frames for a film, how can I combine them into one movie/film?06:29
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oskudeminerale: i used to use transcode06:29
dr_willisminerale,  i think gimp has a feature to do that.06:29
PingunZclick next very fast06:29
joshuaif there is a log somewhere I can type it in here (irssi)06:29
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joshuafolks I desperately need some help. I accidentally uninstalled xgl, when I was using it and had forgotten, now even though I've reinstalled it I cannot startup gnome or gdm...06:29
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grampajoeHow do I use gphotofs to mount an mp3 player?06:30
fishyHow do I install python-gtk2-dev?06:31
oskudejoshua: maybe following the tutorial from start again that you used to install xgl06:31
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goatmalefishy it's probably already installed06:31
goatmalerun synaptic fishing and do a search.06:31
fishygoatmale: It isn't, I checked.06:31
b14ck73425im trying to burn an audio cd...what do i need to do06:31
oskudefishy: are you compiling something ? if the package is not called like that, try to find it with "apt-cache search python gtk2 dev"06:32
fishygoatmale: If I install it, it gives me a list of dependencies. If I install one of the dependencies, it gives me a large list of dependencies.06:32
detiendisposable_mike|  I installed xchm but I still can't open chm file :(06:32
sri_jrib, ya thank u working06:32
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b14ck73425i have a bunch of mp3s that i want to make an audio cd with but i need to know what to do with them06:33
oskudeb14ck73425: its very longtime ago as i last made audio cds, doesnt it ask if you want to do an audio disk when you insert an emtpy cdrom ?06:33
flodinecan someone tell me why the bootup screen of ubuntu looks so ugly06:33
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Ngflodine: what do you mean?06:34
disposable_mikedetien: i have used xchm to open chm files in the past...06:34
flodinethe letters are big when i asked for it to install it 1600x120006:34
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oskudeb14ck73425: ah, you need to convert them to "normal" audio files before you can use them in a "normal" audio cd... or are you burning them for a mp3 player ?06:34
disposable_mikedetien: i right-click on the file, then choose "open with" and select xchm from the command line window06:34
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b14ck73425no i want an audio cd06:34
b14ck73425so "normal"06:34
Ngflodine: if you mean the progress loading screen, that always runs in a small resolution06:34
fishyoskude: I'm trying to compile something. It won't compile because of dependencies. Those dependencies won't install because of more dependencies. The dependencies of the dependencies won't install because of dependencies.06:34
Enverexflodine, It's like 640x480 or something06:34
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Enverexfishy, Just install the top level dep and it will install all the others automatically06:35
flodineyeah but can you change it06:35
oskudefishy: give me an apt-get line that doesnt work and ill try it too06:35
fishyEnverex: That's what I thought, but it didn't.06:35
coxhi its me again :P  i was trying to install gcc by the synaptic and i get this :W: Nie udao si wykona operacji stat na licie pakietw rdowych http://www.kadu.net dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.kadu.net_download_bianry_ubutu_repo_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu)06:35
b14ck73425how do i convert them06:35
fishyoskude: "sudo apt-get install python-gtk2-dev"06:35
detiendisposable_mike|  ahhh, It works now. I thought it would auto detect file type. Thanks06:35
mineraleoskude: have you ever used transcode? How would I select a list of files as the input stream ?06:35
Ngflodine: only by changing the framebuffer options on the kernel command line. Personally I don't think it's worth it for the short period of time it's booting - once X starts it should go to the correct resolution :)06:36
oskudefishy: i think "k3b" can do it "automaticly"... dunno about other tools, as i havent never done that...06:36
flodineNg thxs06:36
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fishyoskude: What's k3b?06:36
skeeziksWhere can I find the Ubuntu Package Policy?06:36
oskudeminerale: man transcode, or read its docs/manual... or even ask google06:36
vorboteb14ck73425, serpentine will do the trick after you intall gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly06:36
oskudefishy: a program to burn cds06:36
damnationum stupid Q06:36
damnation6.06 is dapper right?06:37
Bonez56roger that06:37
Ngdamnation: yes06:37
b14ck73425i know but where do i get those06:37
fishyoskude: Well, that depends on tons of stuff as well.06:37
damnationthanks ng06:37
damnation:)06:37
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oskudefishy: oh, doesnt work here neither, maybe a bug?!06:37
coxANYBODY can  help with this :i was trying to install gcc by the synaptic and i get this :W: Nie udao si wykona operacji stat na licie pakietw rdowych http://www.kadu.net dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.kadu.net_download_bianry_ubutu_repo_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu)06:37
oskudefishy: wait, i get a connection refused O.o06:37
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andre_i'm having trouble getting my tv-out to work on my gf6200.  i have my xorg.conf set up for separate screens on the monitor ad the TV, but as soon as X starts the TV loses signal, Xorg.0.log gives no mentiona at all about screen 1 just 006:38
vorboteb14ck73425, simple. Activate the universe and multiverse repositories, andu use syhnaptic, apt-get or aptitude, your choice.06:38
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Bonez56cox: check your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure there's no stray sources in there. comment them out and then do apt-get update. use the official ubuntu repos only.06:38
fishyoskude: Maybe my apt broke here. I haven't been able to install anything because of the dependencies problem.06:38
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oskudefishy: im using de repos, they seem to have problems, just wait a sec (or two :)06:38
CntryboyIf I glxinfo | grep direct and it says direct rendering no, how can I get it to say yes?06:38
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stefg!easysource > cox06:38
Bonez56!easysource > Bonez5606:39
andre_Cntryboy: load the dri module in xorg.conf ?06:39
oskudefishy: do "sudo apt-get update" and see if you get errors, i do.06:39
Cntryboyandre: care to give me an example of the line I add and where06:39
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oskudefishy: or try another repo06:39
b14ck73425they arent there06:39
andre_'Load "dri" in the module section06:39
andre_along with all the other load statements06:40
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CntryboyLoad"dri"06:40
xedis there a browser available for xubuntu, other than firefox?06:40
Cntryboyit says that06:40
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xedI think firefox is a bit of a resource hog on this old machine06:40
Jukruxed: links06:40
stefg!opera > xed06:40
fishyoskude: How do I try another repo?06:41
oskude!repos06:41
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:41
vorboteCntryboy, if you have a recent ATI or Nvidia card you want obtain accelaration suppport unless you install propietary drivers (a.k.a binary blobs). Dri has nothing to do with it (the FOSS dri dirvers simply don't support post 1992 AT/Nvidia cards, blame the vendors).06:41
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fishy!easysource06:41
xedstefg: Opera is also a bit of a resource hog, no?06:41
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:41
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fishyoskude: I get errors on apt-get update.06:42
vorboteCntryboy, s/you want/tou won't/06:42
Cntryboyvorbote: so in lamin terms I can't?06:42
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Cntryboyright06:42
Bonez566c06:42
b14ck73425all i can get is the 0.8 plugin06:42
stefgxed: then take links2 or w3m :-) opera is the lifhetst graphical browser available06:42
elkbuntuxed, depends how feature-full you want the browser to be, epiphany is a smaller gecko browser, dillo is about as light as you can go and still be in gui06:42
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oskudefishy: yup, here too. which repo do you use ? i use de...06:42
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vorboteCntryboy, in layman terms, you certainly can but you'oll have to jump though hoop.s See the wiki.06:42
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elkbuntustefg, wrong, dillo is lighter ;)06:42
xedelkbuntu: what is this "gecko" and "dillo" you speak of?06:42
bthorntonAnyone having a problem with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS where the GNOME panels become unresponsive (i.e. on logout, or moving a panel, or when applications are added/removed)?06:43
xed!dillo06:43
ubotuI know nothing about dillo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:43
stefgelkbuntu: ok.. point goes to you :-D06:43
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Cntryboywhat is direct rendering for exactly? Mine used to say yes.. when I had ubuntu, i'm on kubuntu now06:43
fdgfdhi there06:43
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elkbuntuxed, gecko is the engine that firefox runs on, so epiphany is sort of a baby version of firefox. Dillo is basically the lightest graphical browser you can get06:43
Cntryboyvorbote: not sure if it helps, but I have a geforce fx 550006:43
Cntryboyso it's not recent lol06:44
fyrestrtrhas anyone in here successfully installed the binary nvidia drivers *with* the control panel applet that comes with nvidia?06:44
xedelkbuntu: and where do about getting this 'dillo' ?06:44
oskudeelkbuntu: links2 ? ;)06:44
Apeironhey all :) maybe someone can help me to get the "savage" driver to work? i cant get any higher resolutions than 640 if i activate savage in my xorg.conf...06:44
vorboteCntryboy, best way is to read the wiki.06:44
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fishyoskude: I'm not sure which repo I'm using...06:44
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fyrestrtrah nevermind, forgot to install it *slap*06:44
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xuxa_I've just burned a powerpc cd for my friend's iBook.  Do we need to hold down a key during boot to get it to boot from CDROM?06:44
elkbuntuoskude, wouldnt know, does it render images?06:45
oskudefishy: you see it on the output of apt-get update (and they are definied in /etc/apt/sources.list)06:45
oskudeelkbuntu: hmm, dunno. gotta test06:45
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Gassedhi06:45
oskudeelkbuntu: damn, cant install links2 as de.archive... has problems :/06:45
Gassed can someone help me compile Qtella?06:45
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Cntryboyvorbote: how do I see the wiki url06:45
b14ck73425if i cant find gstreamer-0.10 plugins in synaptic where can i get them06:45
fyrestrtrcan someone recommend a visual rsync tool?06:46
vorboteCntryboy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards06:46
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elkbuntuoskude, well, dillo is the default browser in Damn Small Linux, so i guess it's fairly decent and light06:46
Cntryboythx06:46
Gassed can someone help me compile Qtella?06:46
caonexI have an hp zv6000 and I have had to use my laptop video card with system memory, despite the fact that it has built-in memory. Whenever I used the built-in memory X would not start, and basically the computer will freeze. Also, fglrx seems to work when using system memory but i have no 3d acceleration.06:46
elkbuntuxed dillo is in universe06:46
oskudeelkbuntu: yup, its very light, but links2 is more lighter, but dunno about usability...06:47
AzzcoHi I've got a little problem on my hands...I've got a i915 chipset in my hands and can't seem to get any direct rendering.. does anyone know what could be done?06:47
caonexThe only way i can get some acceleration is by running programs such as fgl_gears with options such as -fbo but then other programs dont use those options and dont work06:47
xedelkbuntu: noob here, so I'm just goign to pretend like you understand..06:47
caonexany ideas?06:47
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fyrestrtrAzzco: read the wiki guide?06:47
elkbuntu!universe06:47
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:47
fishyoskude: I'm not sure what repo I'm using...doesn't say anything.06:47
elkbuntuxed --^06:47
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xedelkbuntu: does dillo have macromedia flash, adobe acrobat reader, and java support?06:47
Gassed can someone help me compile Qtella?06:48
elkbuntuxed, no.. opera is as light as you will go for those06:48
xedopera it is06:48
elkbuntu!opera06:48
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ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.06:48
xedOpera is lighter than Firefox?06:48
Azzcofyrestrtr: I've been reading alot...might have been that I've missed something...is it a common problem?06:48
fyrestrtropera = light? surely you jest.06:48
elkbuntuxed, somewhat06:48
oskudefishy: huh? look in /etc/apt/sources its the XX.archive.ubuntu.com, where i have XX as de06:48
fyrestrtrAzzco: well once you get the drivers going, and then install 915resolution, things tend to work out.06:48
coxhey why my file that name is "lock" in the directory  /var/lib/apt/lists/ is not availible for me06:48
MintyHello06:48
coxi dont have root only  user06:48
xedfyrestrtr: what would you say is lighter than Opera?06:48
GassedMinty: Who are you really?06:49
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Azzcofyrestrtr: I'll get back to the reading a bit then ;)06:49
xedIt says to look in Applications -> Add/Remove.. but I have no idea where that is06:49
eggzeckcox, use 'sudo'06:49
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Guest477 is anyone using kubuntu or edubuntu able to use java in an environment like yahoo games? i have repeated and unsuccesfully beaten this to a pulp... note that under this installation of ubuntu i am able to properly access most java based resources06:49
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fyrestrtrwell anything (except, maybe firefox).06:49
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oskudefi.archive.ubuntu.com works, didnt expect anything else ;)06:49
fyrestrtrAzzco: make sure you are reading the right one.06:49
grampajoeDoes anyone know the syntax for uploading a file with gphoto2?06:49
elkbuntuxed, the applicatiosn button is the one that says 'applications' next to the ubuntu logo on the taskbar06:49
AlBaloushihello guys06:49
MintyHow do i delete a folder that is locked I have tried sudo rm name of folder but as there are spaces in the name I get a message saying file not found06:49
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Azzcofyrestrtr: yeah that's the hard part ^^06:49
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MintyGassed: what do you mean ??06:49
xedelkbuntu: I got that much.. I click on it.. and whatnot.. but where does it say "Add/Remove..."; no where!06:50
GassedMinty: Do I know you?06:50
AlBaloushiguys i just want to knowis it possible for me to run my bluetooth in ubuntu06:50
fishyoskude: I have "http://archive.ubuntu.com/"06:50
elkbuntuxed it -should- say it immediately below it06:50
Apeironcan someone help me getting a higher resolution in xorg? I cant get any higher resolution than 640 since i use the "savage" driver06:50
MintyGassed: dont know that the problem with loggin names :)06:50
xedelkbuntu: In Xubuntu?06:50
GassedMinty: Ok06:50
vmlemonThe Ctrl+Alt+F1-F7 thing doesn't work for me anymore :(06:50
eggzeckMinty, just type some of the file name 'name' then hit tab: 'name<tab>'06:50
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oskudefishy: oh :) that a good question, what repos does that use... or maybe its its own repo... but as i said fi.archive.ubuntu.com works06:51
elkbuntuxed, i wouldnt know, i dont use xubuntu, you're goig to have to wait for someone else, or join #xubuntu06:51
eggzeckMinty, generally any file name that has spaces must be escaped. The spaces I mean06:51
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Gassed can someone help me compile Qtella?06:51
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eggzeckMinty, example: my\ file06:51
AlBaloushiguys i just want to knowis it possible for me to run my bluetooth in ubuntu it works fine on my otehr box which has windows xp06:52
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GTXIs it possible to put 2 screens together on ubuntu like you can extend them on windows?06:52
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fyrestrtrGTX: yes06:52
GTXhow fyrestrtr06:52
xedxubuntu it is!06:52
fishyoskude: So I should add "deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe06:52
fishydeb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe" to my /etc/apt/sources.list file?06:52
Mintyeggzeck: I am right in that its sudo rm ??06:52
fyrestrtrusing xinerama or if you have nvidia, twinview.06:52
oskudeelkbuntu: links2 (with -g) does show images06:52
Cntryboyvorbote: I have a question what is direct rendering exactly is that for 3d? I was in xgl interface and thats prob. why it said no, I'm in regular kde now and it says yes.06:52
oskudefishy: yup, works here06:53
EnverexXGL doesn't support Direct Rendering06:53
elkbuntuoskude, cool06:53
fyrestrtrAzzco: read this one > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver#head-6fcd801a3621b9769f7bf9f48fa4e3ad6e25665406:53
Mintyand do I need to Cd to the folder that the folder is in ??06:53
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Enverex(DirectRendering is basically 3D support)06:53
derekSso no one has trouble using ubuntu+ssh+mutt+screen?06:53
oskudefishy: i made a backup of the old sources.list first06:53
GTXfyrestrtr, Where I get twinview from06:53
Cntryboyokay thought so06:53
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Cntryboyenverex: so that's why my games craches in xgl right?06:53
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Cntryboycrashes06:53
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eggzeckMinty, you only need sudo if you don't have permission to rm the file06:54
fyrestrtrGTX: if you have an nvidia card, install the binary drivers first -- then you'll get it. Its just a matter of setting up your screens after that :)06:54
oskudeelkbuntu: but dillo is more userfriendly, so please keep on recommeding that :)06:54
xedxubuntu is dead... =(06:54
eggzeckMinty, no, rm /path/to/dir06:54
xedWho can tell me if I can force my resolution/refresh rate a bit...?06:54
fuocoshould i manually configure xorg.conf in ubuntu ?06:54
GTXfyrestrtr, Im using the nvidia-glx drivers right now? do i have to undo that and crap?06:54
eggzeckMinty, you will need the -r option06:54
fyrestrtrxed: don't recommend it. Forcing refresh rates can damage your video equipment.06:54
oskudefuoco: i do it manually allways... but you dont have to06:55
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eggzeckxed, You can do it, but it's not recommended06:55
fyrestrtrGTX: no, just install the control panel and set it up there.06:55
Enverexxed: Erm, do you mean ones it supports but don't show up or ones that it isn't really capable of?06:55
coxi was trying to install gcc and i get this : configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.06:55
fishyoskude: I still get an infinite list of dependencies.06:55
fuocooskude: i don't have 3d support out of the box...06:55
coxwhat to do06:55
GTXfyrestrtr, What control panel?06:55
cox?06:55
CntryboyEnverex: did ya catch my last line I typed to u?06:55
Mintyeggzeck: did CD and now have message  'Is a directory'06:55
coxplz  hel06:55
fyrestrtrcox: don't install it -- sudo apt-get install build-essential06:55
oskudefuoco: whats your card ?06:55
elkbuntuoskude, i see what you mean about repos being wonky... im getting <10kb/s on a 1.5mb line here06:55
XplOzIonhow do i make a symlink like this. i want this folder "/home/user1/downloads/" to see whats inside several folders, for example whats in "/home/downloads/apps/" and /home/ftp/apps/"06:55
fyrestrtrGTX: the nvidia control panel, search for it in synaptic.06:55
coxhmmm06:55
XplOzIonclear06:55
fuocooskude: r30006:55
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coxok06:55
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xedEnverex: the first one.. the ones it supports but don't show up06:56
gebruikeri set a passwd for root, how can I revert back to the default one(that root didn't have a passwd)..06:56
EnverexCntryboy, probably yes06:56
oskudefuoco: hmm, radeon should work (as i heard) out of the box... but r300 has experimental 3d hw accel06:56
Mintyeggzeck: done the -r worked a treat :), many thanks06:56
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GTXfyrestrtr, nvidia-xconfig?06:56
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Cntryboyenverex: I've seen samples of xgl where they play quake 3 though06:56
Enverexxed, erm, go into your xorg.conf file and remove the MODES lines06:56
Cntryboythats what confuses me06:56
zalmoxesis there a bandwidth cap on ubuntu?06:56
fyrestrtrGTX: yes, and nvidia-settings06:56
oskudefishy:  sudo apt-get install python-gtk2-dev works here06:56
fuocooskude: it worked for me for a very long time in other distros06:56
xedEnverex: where is this xorg.conf file you speak of?06:56
GTXfyrestrtr, nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx..06:57
XplOzIonhow do i make a symlink like this. i want this folder "/home/user1/downloads/" to see whats inside several folders, for example whats in "/home/downloads/apps/" and /home/ftp/apps/"06:57
GTXand so does nvidia-xconfig06:57
fyrestrtrGTX: hrmm, that's strange. Maybe they are two different drivers.06:57
fyrestrtrGTX: read the wiki.06:57
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oskudefuoco: sorry im bad with radeon driver, i allways used fglrx driver :/06:57
fishyoskude: Well, I'm giving up. I should reinstall Ubuntu or get a Mac. This problem is just not worth fixing.06:57
GTXfyrestrtr, Ive read just about everywhere ;\06:57
oskudefishy: aha ...06:57
zalmoxesis there a bandwidth cap on ethernet adapters on ubuntu?06:57
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fyrestrtrCntryboy: rendering is possible in xgl.06:57
PikciurnaHow to enable 3 settings in ubuntu kernel?06:57
fuocooskude: i just wonder if i should configure it manually or expect ubuntu to do it ?06:58
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Jack_Sparrowzalmoxes: You mean the Ubuntu website or the OS?06:58
fyrestrtrzalmoxes: most definately not :)06:58
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zalmoxesOS06:58
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Jack_Sparrowno06:58
zalmoxesfyrestrtr: ok06:58
oskudefuoco: i just apt-get installed the fglrx driver and changed that as driver in xorg.conf06:58
fyrestrtrGTX: give me a few minutes, I'm going to setup the same thing on my nvidia box.06:58
GTXkk fyrestrtr06:58
Enverexxed: /etc/X11/06:58
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zalmoxesi am just getting low internet speed as compared to when i connect it to my other desktop06:59
fyrestrtrGTX: reinstalling dapper after someone -- who shall remain nameless, but you know who you are you prick -- though it would be cute to install kororaa on my machine "to see the cool xgl stuff".06:59
xedEnverex: You want me to REMOVE the Modes lines?!07:00
fyrestrtrwhen I had it all the time on the dapper install.07:00
xedEnverex: Is taht a good idea?07:00
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Bonez56rofl I live less than a mile from the AU ubuntu mirror and I still only get 300k/sec... :(07:00
flodineso is ubuntu the best linux os right now?07:00
GTXfyrestrtr, ??? whats that about? im lost07:00
fyrestrtrGTX: nevermind, just venting.07:00
oskudeBonez56: :) i get full 2mbit from fi and im very long away from there...07:00
Jack_SparrowBonez I had better luck with non-american servers.  It is a Gates conspiracy.07:01
beerfananyone using Quod Libet? any suggestions for making it work?07:01
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Enverexxed: just put # at the start of those lines07:01
Bonez56oskude: unfortunately internet speeds in australia are something to laugh about... many people only have 512/128k connections07:01
xedEnverex: All of those that start with "Modes" right?07:01
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EnverexXed: Yeah07:02
ana_hola07:02
Apeironcmon, cant anyone help me with my xorg problem? if i use savage as driver i cant get any resolution higher than 640, and with vesa as driver gnome wont even start up07:02
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PikciurnaHow to enable a few settings in ubuntu kernel?07:02
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Bonez56Pikciurna: what settings?07:02
dr_willisPikciurna,  i would guess - it depends on the settings. :)07:02
Enverexxed: Actually, erm, what is your card?07:02
fyrestrtrBonez56: *only* -- lol don't laugh. Its worse here.07:02
Pikciurnapppoe07:02
Bonez56fyrestrtr: what country are you in?07:02
zalmoxesflodine: i guess, ubuntu is the best after trying suse10, suse10.1, xubuntu, kubuntu, and ubuntu. all this on an ancient laptop.07:03
dr_willispppoe would be a moduel you can load ain tit?07:03
fyrestrtrKuwait -- where for the past 5 days, the international fiber link has been cut "accidentally" -- don't know HOW since its freakin' submarine.07:03
Pikciurnanot module07:03
dr_willisfyrestrtr,  sawfish. :P07:03
Pikciurnai need recompile kernel i think07:03
dr_willisor it got cut where it came ashore.07:03
fyrestrtrthe entire country is on satellite backup.07:03
Pikciurnabut dont know how ;(07:03
xedEnverex: 0000:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX [Mach64 GX]  (rev 0107:04
dr_willis!pppoe07:04
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE07:04
dr_willisHow about look there first. :P07:04
Pikciurnai have looked07:04
Enverexxed: Should work with those lines commented out, it will autodetect them07:04
Bonez56fyrestrtr: wow satellite backup... that would suck :(07:04
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flodinezalmoxes suse 10.1 is good runs good on my 64 bit emt07:04
xedEnverex: After I comment the lines out, should I restart the machine?07:04
XplOzIonhow do i make a symlink like this. i want this folder "/home/user1/downloads/" to see whats inside several folders, for example whats in "/home/downloads/apps/" and /home/ftp/apps/"07:04
dr_willisXplOzIon,  you dont.07:04
flodinezalmoxes you tried sled 1007:05
Pikciurnabut in order to setup interent connection i need to enable ppp, atm settings07:05
fyrestrtrBonez56: aye, and even when its not on backup -- internet access prices here are -- rediculous. We pay $7,500 for 512/256 DSL07:05
dr_willisXplOzIon,  there is a 'fuse' user file system that can make it work that way.. but it will take some reading/learning.07:05
XplOzIondr_willis can link 2 folders?07:05
XplOzIondr_willis how about simple folder links?07:05
dr_willisXplOzIon,  you dont 'layer' 2 directories with  soft or hard links.07:05
Pikciurnado anybody know how to recompile kernel?07:05
dr_willisyou can easially link one dir, some where else.07:05
fyrestrtr!kernel07:05
Amaranth!kernel07:05
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:05
Bonez56fyrestrtr: that is insane. i won't complain anymore :) I have 4000/800kbps for $69 AUD per month07:05
zalmoxesflodine: sled 10?07:05
dr_willisXplOzIon,  check out the 'ln -s' command.07:05
Pikciurnaits to confusing ;(07:05
XplOzIondr_willis i see, i been trieing07:05
zalmoxesflodine: whats that?07:05
XplOzIondr_willis gonna try thansk a lots07:06
fyrestrtrBonez56: that's per year, mind you -- and I had to bargain that price out.07:06
flodinezalmoxes  novell new nld desktop 1007:06
Pikciurnai only now ho to recompile kernel from kernel.org07:06
dr_willisXplOzIon,  it pays to spend an hr or 2 reading a few linux/bash tutorials :)07:06
AmaranthPikciurna: Notice "You shouldn't have to compile one"07:06
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XplOzIondr_willis hehehe i been reading too ;-P07:06
Pikciurnabut how to enable these settings in kernel??07:06
Bonez56fyrestrtr: wow $625 per month just for 512... ouch] 07:06
fyrestrtrBonez56: iirc, the most expensive internet access is in Saudi -- where its $1/minute (tariff) in addition to the normal internet access charge (which is again, per minute)07:06
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Enverexxed, No, just restart X07:06
AmaranthPikciurna: what settings?07:07
flodinezalmoxes  im tring to find reason to leave suse 10.1 but cant find one07:07
fyrestrtrBonez56: yah, so quit yer  wining :P07:07
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XplOzIondr_willis: thanks! your the man!!07:07
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Bonez56fyrestrtr: it would hardly even be worth it for that price. much cheaper just to go outside and play :)07:07
xedEnverex: and I do this how?07:07
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PikciurnaAsynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM), PPP (point-to-point protocol) support, PPP over ATM07:07
Pikciurnahow to enable these??07:07
fyrestrtrBonez56: yeah, or send carrier pigeons07:07
zalmoxesflodine: i am actually using ubuntu on a pentium4 196 ram laptop, suse is too slow on this07:08
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xedEnverex: I restarted the machine..and I still only see 640 by 480 resoluation available at 61Hz07:08
xedEnverex: No other resolutions available07:08
AmaranthPikciurna: I dunno.07:08
fuocois there an app that can be used to encode video files under gnome ?07:08
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flodinezalmoxes  yeah i understand im rolling with 64 bit and 10,000 sata with suse07:08
MZMhow can I compile src deb with same options as for binary + another one?07:08
xedEnverex: I am using Xubuntu, and to change my resolution I click on Applications > Settings > Display Settings07:09
Pikciurnai am starting to think that it is impossible to change ubuntu kernel settings :(((07:09
AmaranthPikciurna: I haven't messed with my kernel since 2.407:09
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Apeironflodine well, the better package management would be a reason for me, i think07:09
AmaranthPikciurna: It's not impossible07:09
Amaranth!kernel07:09
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:09
Timmy|GDSyo booboo!07:09
oskudefuoco: transcode is powerfull, but allso little complicated (if you dont know about video)07:09
Amaranthread the link ubotu just said07:09
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zalmoxesflodine: i actually find suse has a lot of extra stuff, which i dont ever need07:09
Bonez56brb smoko07:09
Pikciurnai have read it many times07:09
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Pikciurnabut it didint helped07:09
flodineApeiron everything i install in ubuntu is already in suse07:10
Myrthhi, i'm trying to enter into maintenance mode on ubuntu, and it asks me root password to proceed, but i thought ubuntu doesn't have root password?07:10
zalmoxesflodine: it hurts when you have a 20gig HD07:10
fuocooskude: yeah that why i thought of a gui... transcode is different than mancoder ?07:10
fuocomencoder*\07:10
fyrestrtrMyrth: its a bug, unfortunately07:10
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Myrthso how do i get into maintenance mode?07:10
danielknobethe passwort of your useraccount is the pwasswort07:10
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AmaranthMZM: If you mean adding options to ./configure you have to edit the debian/rules file inside the package.07:10
flodineApeiron package install easy with smart07:10
Apeironflodine: its long ago i used suse, but i remember i had many problems to install software, i had to search tons of depency and software packages and install them one by one by hand07:10
danielknobeotherwise create u a passwort with sudo07:11
Myrthdanielknobe: only when you sudo07:11
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oskudefuoco: dunno about mencoder, but i remember seeing a transcode gui, sec...07:11
danielknobesudo -passwd07:11
Myrthdanielknobe: for that i'd have to enter my account, wouldn't i?07:11
jonah1980hi guys, getting this error but not seeing the duplication it's stating when opening the file up:  http://pastebin.ca/99785 can anyone help me out? thanks07:12
Myrthdanielknobe: and i can't because i startup sequence dies on mysqld service07:12
flodineApeiron think suse see how good ubuntu got it with installing stuff there getting it right with smart.07:12
oskudefuoco: huh... was for something else ;)07:12
spiderwormwierd problem here.... i had my headphones in when i turned on the computer, and now if i take out my headphones, music wont play through the speakers!07:12
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fyrestrtrMyrth: for now, boot with the livecd and assign a root password, and then complain to the ubuntu devs07:12
jonah1980it's the duplicate source list bit i'm concerned about07:12
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spiderwormis there a running sound daemon or device that i can somehow restart?07:12
Myrthfyrestrtr: thanks07:12
MZMAmaranth: but for what configure-stamp stands for? (If i wanted to use plain ./configure, I would be still using Slackware ;) )07:12
flodineApeiron dont get me wrong ubuntu is a min away from being install on my 64 bit box07:12
fyrestrtrspiderworm: you could restart alsa07:12
AmaranthMZM: I have no idea.07:13
MZMAmaranth:  tnx anyway07:13
AmaranthMZM: I'm saying you have to edit debian/rules to change the way it calls ./configure07:13
flodinezalmoxes  i cant even get ubuntu installed on my other intel 3.0 HT box wont boot after installing07:13
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Apeironflodine: and im a min away from re-installing gentoo on my machine.. since its impossible to get those savage driver to work :/07:13
AmaranthMZM: then run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc07:13
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XplOzIondr_willis is it really hard to link to see whats inside several folders?07:13
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flodineApeiron lol07:14
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flodineApeiron your not leaving ubuntu its to easy07:14
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MZMApeiron: Gentoo rocks. If it doesn't work on Gentoo, it would not work enywhere (almost)07:14
AmaranthXplOzIon: The hard part is linking two dirs to the same location and expecting it to merge the files of both.07:14
spiderwormfyrestrtr: how do i do that.... alsactl doesnt have a restart or a start option07:14
Apeironflodine i encountered more problems since the install than with my whole live with gentoo...07:14
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ApeironMZM it worked fine on gentoo07:15
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flodineApeiron really07:15
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XplOzIonAmaranth, the folders wont have same directories names if that matters07:15
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AmaranthXplOzIon: That doesn't matter, you just can't do it.07:15
mykilxwhere is the setting to enable mouse scroll on the desktop changes workspaces?07:15
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AmaranthXplOzIon: links don't work like that07:16
Myrthfyrestrtr: thanks, do you know good small livecd?07:16
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XplOzIonAmaranth i see07:16
Apeironis it only me or are the german ubuntu repositorys down?07:16
flodineApeiron well i can say i can run both ubuntu and suse working fast with no problems on a intel duo emt board and chip07:16
dr_willisXplOzIon,  i saw a way with that 'FUSE' (file system user space) tools that could do it.. but it took me an hr+ to get fuse working right. :P)07:17
flodineApeiron so the ? now is whats the better OS07:17
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Apeironflodine i left gentoo on my laptop because it was annoying to compile evrything from source on a 1ghz machine with 128mb ram07:17
dr_willisXplOzIon,  then theres the overlay filesystem feature some lvie cd's use..  but whats the point.07:17
fyrestrtrMyrth: the gentoo minimal install cd is like 64 megs07:17
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XplOzIondr_willis to be honest is will make a FTP server browse better07:17
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XplOzIondr_willis just click on apps and see what other users have in apps in just one folder07:18
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dr_willisXplOzIon,  You dont want to be doing the gimmicy things like that with a ftp server.07:18
Apeironflodine the best os is the one which matches your needs most exactly, i think07:18
flodineApeiron its like when i run suse i miss ubuntu and when i run suse i miss ubuntu im inlove with them both07:18
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dr_willissounds luike a BIG way to get some secuity odditoes/issues/exploits07:18
Paddy_EIREwhich is the best dvd copying software for copying discs on the fly07:18
danielknobea matter of taste07:18
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dr_willisdepends on what you mean by 'dvd' also. :)07:19
XplOzIondr_willis yeah i know but i was thinking that could work and give user an easy way to browse the ftp07:19
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dr_willisXplOzIon,  many ftp servers get set to ignore soft links as well.07:19
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XplOzIondr_willis yeah i seen it07:19
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dr_willismake a dir thats a bunch of soft links to the other dirs.07:19
Paddy_EIRE<dr_willis> DVD as in anything thats on the dvd disc ,movies, music, data... whatever07:19
flodineApeiron ubuntu seem a little flaky when running programs as when on suse seem more solid07:20
XplOzIondr_willis yeah already working that way hehe07:20
dr_willisPaddy_EIRE,  backing up a DATA dvd - is a Much different task then backing up your copy of Debbie-Does-Datayona Video DVD.07:20
XplOzIondr_willis you think there is a way to hide the path of the link?07:20
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: gnomebaker07:20
zalmoxesflodine: i think the best 2 OS are ubuntu and suse atm. they are both very good.07:20
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dr_willisXplOzIon,  no idea - i dont use FTP. i perfer ssh.07:20
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danielknobewhats up with superstable debian?07:20
dr_willisi can only think of a few cases where you have to use ftp  instead of SSH. :)07:21
fyrestrtrzalmoxes: don't know about suse, sure its pretty -- but man that rpm hell make me want to stick toothpicks in my eyes.07:21
danielknobeits very good too07:21
XiXaQI've connected my mp3 player via usb. How do I use it as a harddisk?07:21
zalmoxesfyrestrtr: oh yes i forgot about the rpms07:21
MrRioI'm mounting a webdav share, but only root users can see it07:21
XplOzIondr_willis yeah but the main problem are users... they pay for the services, i dont think they would like to use ssh hehe07:21
EnverexXiXaQ, If that's possible it should have appeared on the desktop or been assigned a /dev/sdX node07:21
flodinezalmoxes well your right but i got fedora on that intel HT and it is smoking everything work perfect even yum07:21
seanhAnyone come across this before---trying to install Dapper for a friend, on a new mid-spec laptop, and the live system runs so absurdly slow that it's just not reasonable to do the install. Takes about 1 hour to respond to the first question-choosing the language. The Breezy live CD is fine on the same laptop. Was considering trying a text mode install. What would be the best solution?07:21
zalmoxesfyrestrtr: now i remember why i switched to ubuntu07:22
dr_willisXplOzIon,  with 'winscp3' the interface is identical to a ftp client.07:22
MrRioI have user in fstab07:22
dr_willisXplOzIon,  so thats not really a good excuse. :) lol07:22
fyrestrtrseanh: sounds like a bad burn. Just went through that 20 minutes ago. A fresh burn solved that problem. For text mode installs, try the alternate cd.07:22
flodinezalmoxes folks forget about fedora but its good and got the new kernel when released07:22
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EnverexOk. I have two questions. One is a serious pain in the ass and the other is a serious drain on my battery. Whenever I move any icons around on the Gnome desktop it acts like I have Control held down (and copies if I drag an icon to another place on the desktop) and the other issue is what do I need to do to get the gnome frequency scaling applet on the panel to work? It says I don't have support for scaling.07:22
XplOzIondr_willis oh i see07:22
XplOzIondr_willis you are the guru hehe07:23
ku!rpm07:23
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).07:23
zalmoxesseanh, does it really take an hour? cause mine is an ancient laptop, p4 with 196 ram07:23
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fyrestrtrEnverex: install laptop-mode07:23
seanhfyrestrtr - hmm.. it's a CD from shipit.I guess it could be a bad burn still07:23
flodinezalmoxes i wish ubuntu let you install the kernel like fedora does07:23
dr_willistheres priberly some other tools out to let ya view ssh under windows as well.07:23
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seanhzalmoxes - it does not take anything like an hour usually07:23
fyrestrtrseanh: hrmm, you never know. I've had bad cds come in sealed packages before.07:23
dr_willisive had bad cd's that some how got the lables on the data side. :)07:24
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fyrestrtrdr_willis: lmao07:24
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zalmoxesseanh, it is very slow on the live cd, but its ok after installation07:24
seanhfyrestrtr - right, I'll burn another. Do you know if the text mode install is any different than the live install in dapper? i.e. does it just install the standard desktop system like it used to in breezy?07:24
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fyrestrtrseanh: yeah, its the same thing, only you get more options. I personally recommend it to everyone over the desktop cd.07:25
XplOzIondr_willis sorry to keep bothering you but, is there a tool that will let me convert an NTFS hdd into FAT or EXT3 keeping whats is inside that hdd?07:25
seanhzalmoxes - no, this is definitely not a case of the live system simply being slow because of the laptop spec and cause it's running off the CD, there is a problem. It really did take an hour to select the language07:25
fyrestrtrXplOzIon: I can answer that -- nope :)07:25
flodineApeiron ubuntu still has 2.6.15 kernel07:25
XplOzIonfyrestrtr, so i will lost everything07:26
Apeironflodine uhm.. and?07:26
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dr_willisXplOzIon,  never noticed one. gparted can resize them..  thats what backups are for. :P and fileservers07:26
kuXplOzIon: I thought there was... can't Partition Magic do that?07:26
fyrestrtrXplOzIon: unless you back it up.07:26
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Enverexfyrestrtr, didn't help07:26
flodineApeiron just asking wasnt sure07:26
Apeironflodine im not sure either07:26
XplOzIonthanks i was just curious07:26
fyrestrtrEnverex: hrmmnn...worked out of the box here, what kind of computer do you have?07:26
flodineApeiron are on ubuntu07:27
Apeironflodine yes, its .1507:27
zalmoxesseanh: i actually had another problem with live cds, its to do with the burner used in the first place. that could be the problem07:27
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kuI got into the confirmation page when I was trying to convert from NTFS to FAT32, and it gave me a warning regarding some files with asian language for titles, so I didn't go through with it as I have tons of japanese and korean files07:27
seanhThanks fyrestrtr and zalmoxes, will burn another CD and see what happens07:27
fyrestrtrif you burn a livecd at a very high speed, sometime you get these slow livecds07:27
Enverexfyrestrtr, It's a P4 laptop07:27
kuSo I was assuming that it would keep the files07:27
fyrestrtrseanh: make sure its on a 700 MB blank, not a 650 MB one.07:27
seanhzalmoxes - well, it was a shipit CD that I used, and right now I'm gonna try another burner, should get round that07:27
Paddy_EIRE<dr_willis> so say i wanna backup my dvd Movie an exact copy now, and i wanna do this on the fly as quickly as possible what would you recommend i use07:28
grampajoeAre there any Linux-based tools I can use to resize a video?07:28
fyrestrtrEnverex: P4? or Centrino? Didn't think P4 supported freq scaling.07:28
Enverexfyrestrtr, P4 and it does07:28
seanhfyrestrtr - 700MB = 80 minutes?07:28
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fyrestrtrseanh: yeah07:28
danielknobedo somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu07:28
Enverexfyrestrtr, It worked fine in Gentoo, I just enabled the speed control options in the kernel before compiling07:28
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zerostarhxAnyone availuble for a 1 on 1 chat about installing programs and some other general ubuntu talk?07:29
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fyrestrtrhrmm -- dunno. What brand is it?07:29
zalmoxesseanh: i actually tried burning the same image with a newer burner and it works after that07:29
MrRiowhy can only root look at my mounted files?07:29
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rixxonzerostarhx, installing a program is one command on ubuntu. sudo apt-get install NAME07:29
zalmoxeszerostarhx: i may be able to help07:29
MrRioI've set 'user' in fstab07:29
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ApeironMrRio: use umask=000 as option07:29
Enverexfyrestrtr, Sager (that's a rebrand though, Alienware also sold it at one point too under their own name). Model 5660.07:30
AAAMrRio  because the directory you mounted it too needs the perms changed07:30
zerostarhxI don't really understnad any of those terms lol I guess that's why I need help07:30
fyrestrtrdo actual ubuntu (canonical) employees hang out here?07:30
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madman1234i'm trying to rebuild the ffmpeg package and when i do apt-get build-dep ffmpeg i get: " Build-dependencies for ffmpeg could not be satisfied"07:30
MFenis "vmware-player-modules" the same as "install vmware tools" from the vmware menu?07:30
zalmoxeszerostarhx: i dont mind a 1 on 1 chat07:30
rixxonfyrestrtr, notice the "official" in topic07:30
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MrRioAAA: Unknown suboption umask=00007:30
ccookeis there any point to the gnome bluetooth manager?07:30
zerostarhxOk opening a window07:30
gebruikerHOW DO I UPDATE MY KDE MENU?07:30
MrRioAAA: I'm mounting using davfs07:30
fyrestrtrEnverex: ooh maan -- I know that beast. My friend has one. Heavy and Hot.07:30
rixxongebruiker, sure you don't want #kubuntu ?07:31
fyrestrtrrixxon: that didn't answer my question, but I would like to know if anyone knows of anyone that is canoncial employee :)07:31
flodineApeiron when installing ubuntu again im no sure is it better to use the kernel-smp or just use 64 bit version of ubuntu07:31
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madman1234is there an ffmpeg package that includes mp3 encoding?07:31
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MrRioAAA: I changed chown to my username07:31
AAAMrRio  I don't use devfs, but I would check the perms on that dir ls -ld /mnt/dir and make sure other users can xr07:31
rixxonfyrestrtr, my point is, i bet if it is official, it isn't totally left to its own destiny07:31
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Enverexfyrestrtr, Yeah, with a battery life of a whole half of 10 minutes07:31
flodineApeiron dont see any diffrence in speed07:31
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AAAMrRio  pasted the perms07:31
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fyrestrtrEnverex: that's the one lol07:32
danielknobedo somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu07:32
MrRioAAA: drwxrwxrwx  2 brightfive brightfive    4096 2006-07-25 17:57 webdav07:32
Enverexfyrestrtr, Thing is, under Ubuntu the fan seems to be set on High almost constantly too07:32
Myrthfyrestrtr: downloaded DSL, but realized that i have root on LVM...07:32
zerostarhxZalmoxes: did you get my message?07:32
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Enverexfyrestrtr, (no CPU usage, just the damn fan)07:32
MrRioAAA: i have full read/write permissions, just cant see any of the files inside unless i'm root07:32
Myrthfyrestrtr: ubuntu livecd has lvm right?07:32
Apeironflodine sry, i was afk.. i dont have any experience with 64 bit processors/OS07:33
Enverexgebruiker, It should be automati07:33
fyrestrtrEnverex: hrmm, this sounds like a acpi issue, unfortunately, I wouldn't know where to start.07:33
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mineralewhat is the package name for the windows fonts ?07:33
AAAMrRio  and that is while it is mounted? and you can't access with your user account?07:33
fyrestrtrMyrth: I believe it does.07:33
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fyrestrtr!info msfonts07:33
ubotuPackage msfonts does not exist in dapper07:33
zalmoxeszerostarhx: no07:33
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Enverexfyrestrtr, The whole "moving icons on the desktop acts like control is held down the whole time" is annoying too07:33
MrRioAAA: when it's mounted i can see all the files as root, and nothing as normal user07:33
zerostarhxHMmmmm07:33
fyrestrtrEnverex: is the keyboard stuck? Happens to my friend a lot.07:33
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Enverexfyrestrtr, no, lol07:34
zalmoxeszerostarhx: did you get my message?07:34
minerale!info msttcorefonts07:34
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB07:34
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zerostarhxno x.x maybe i'm doing it wrong lol07:34
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AAAMrRio  unmount the volume and then check the perms.  I don't use devfs so I really don't know.  Maybe something is missing in /etc/devfs.conf07:34
MrRioAAA: when I mount it, it is owned by root07:34
zalmoxeszerostarhx: are you using gaim?07:34
fyrestrtrEnverex: don't know man -- I throw some things out, but it would be pure guesses.07:34
EnverexUsing 64bit speeds up things like en/decoding and en/decryption but little else. Using SMP on a Uniprocessor machine won't hurt but is also pointless07:34
MrRioAAA: the perms i posted before was on an unmounted folder07:35
wheelchairLo there! I'm using 5.10 and I got a update notification. Where on the ubuntu site can I find the upgrade FAQ?07:35
zerostarhxyes07:35
gebruikerEnverex what should, the gtk look that matches mine qt look?07:35
MrRioAAA: when mounted it turns to drwx------  1 root       root           512 2006-07-25 16:36 webdav07:35
Enverexgebruiker, ... pardon?07:35
fyrestrtrhowever, using smp on a HT/dual core proc DOES help -- a LOT.07:35
Enverexfyrestrtr, shoot07:35
Enverexfyrestrtr, Well duh07:35
zalmoxeszerostarhx: you get my message now/07:35
paulmim using sound converter to conver m4a files to mp3  and when it does, it seems to smoothly loop the song and extend it from roughly 2 mins to over 6. Any ideas or a better program?07:36
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danielknobedo somebody know a good ndiswrapper tutorial for (K)ubuntu07:36
AAAMrRio  it is a devfs thing, and, like I said, I don't use devfs. check man devfs07:36
Enverexfyrestrtr, I didn't realise the other day but I was using the 386 Uniprocessor kernel on my Athlon64 X2 machine, switched to the K7 SMP one and a nice boost came out of that, heh07:36
fyrestrtrEnverex: well, first thing -- check acpi support and if the cpufreq_* modules are loaded or not (lsmod)07:36
gebruiker Enverex I want to match my qt look to gtk applications...07:36
fyrestrtrEnverex: lol07:36
Enverexgebruiker, ah, 1 sec07:36
zerostarhxZalmoxes, I think it's because i'm not registered07:36
Enverexfyrestrtr, acpi seems to be loaded and the scaling modules07:37
zalmoxesdo you have to be registered to send private messages?07:37
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Enverexzalmoxes, yes07:37
zerostarhxi believe so07:37
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paulmim using sound converter to conver m4a files to mp3  and when it does, it seems to smoothly loop the song and extend it from roughly 2 mins to over 6. Any ideas or a better program?07:37
zalmoxesi didnt know i was registered?07:37
zalmoxesi have been sending private messages all this time07:38
zerostarhxif you use AIM with GAIM you can send me a message on "zomfglolz"07:38
Guest477many times i have read or been told that sun-java is in repos>> could i get the address of the repository(s) that hold said java and plugins?07:38
fyrestrtr!java07:38
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:38
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zerostarhxso you could send me a message that way07:38
zalmoxeszerostarhx: ok07:38
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Guest477what is the address of multiverse?07:38
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Guest477that i may verify accuracy07:39
Enverexgebruiker, gtk-engines-qtpixmap should work07:39
Enverexfyrestrtr, acpi seems to be loaded and the scaling modules as well as ACPI itself...07:39
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dr_willisthere have been some issues with some of the servers the last few days. :)07:40
dr_willis!easysource07:40
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:40
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paulmim using sound converter to conver m4a files to mp3  and when it does, it seems to smoothly loop the song and extend it from roughly 2 mins to over 6. Any ideas or a better program?07:40
JoeUKis there a Linux equiv. to Active Desktop?07:40
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wimswhats active desktop again ?07:40
JoeUKActiveDesktop07:41
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dr_willisJoeUK,  you realize how nasty ActiveDesktop under windows was dont ya? :)07:41
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JoeUKit allows you in Windows to include webpages in your desktop07:41
mineralehow do I open the 'run' dialogue ?07:41
AAAanyone know a good app for taking a /dir/of/pics and creating a dvd slideshow/movie ?07:41
Enverex... yes we know the word, what does it mean? lol07:41
Enverexheh07:41
jpatotathe sparc server install of 6.06, does it have memtest installed07:41
jpatotaor can you install memtest07:41
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JoeUKim just writing an article on www.lifehacker.com07:41
dr_willisJoeUK,  theres the various desklets that let ya do a lot of those eye-candy features.07:41
mineraleie, if I want to run klipper without starting and killing an xterm window07:41
JoeUKi mean07:41
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JoeUKis it possible to include HTML on your desktop?07:41
mnpis there a way to have a static terminal window at the bottom of the desktop so i dont have to use my mouse as much?07:42
paulmim using sound converter to conver m4a files to mp3  and when it does, it seems to extend it from roughly 2 mins to over 6. Any ideas or a better program?07:42
dr_willisJoeUK,   it would proberly be some other appluication tha tdid it. not really a feature of 'linux or X" - and no - i cant recall seeing it done.07:42
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dr_willisJoeUK,  ya could proberly do it if you really wanted to. dependong on the window manager.07:42
Enverexpaulm, Try Audacity07:42
ApeironJoeUK im pretty sure some of those file/desktop managers konqueror, nautilus or rox can do that07:42
dr_willisJoeUK,  freshmeat.net - would be a place to search.07:42
paulmEnverex does that convert files too?07:43
cartHi ppl, i try to setup my desktop with xinerama, but when i put the BIOS to init in the PCI card, ubuntu dont initialize with a kernel panic, and digging i discover that the command udevplug in /etc/init.d/udev that throws the kernel panic... anyone has been throught this?07:43
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Enverexpaulm, It's an audio editor, so yes07:43
dr_willisApeiron,  :) ive not noticed that. Then again with the KDE and gnome taking over the desktop so much.. i cant even run xearth :)07:43
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Apeirondr_willis: xearth?07:43
paulmEnverex thanks, i'll give that a go07:43
AAAmnp  you can run eterm with and -rootwin switch (or similar) and it will run in the root window where ever you tell it07:43
JoeUKhere's one07:43
JoeUKhttp://deskroot.sourceforge.net/07:43
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dr_willisApeiron,  puts a animated globe as the wallpaper.07:44
Enverexpaulm, If that doesn't work, do a Google search for something to convert that m4a to wave (the original encoder should be able to do that) then use any of the million programs to encode it to MP307:44
Apeirondr_willis: lol07:44
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EnverexJoeUK, You're the one that wanted them, not us :P07:44
danielknobeis here somebody how is a developer in C++???07:44
AAAmencoder does m4a --> mp307:44
dr_willisApeiron,  then ya got the other old-skool apps like xroach and that xpenguins07:45
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skavengexroach is awesome too bad it doesnt work with gnome/kde07:45
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zalmoxeszerostarhx: are you there?07:46
Apeirone17 has some really cool features for the rootwindow :)07:46
dr_willisskavenge,  it can work - if you tell gnome/kde to allow it.07:46
skavengedr_willis: is it difficult?07:46
zalmoxeszerostarhx: is there some kind of connection problem?07:46
seanhThat's interesting, I just burned a fresh Desktop CD, and the live system is still running extremely slow. It seems the problem is with the laptop. Do you think it's safe to just do a text-mode install?07:46
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dr_willisskavenge,  a check box some where that says "allow desktop applets to run' or somthing like that. :P so its trivial07:46
zerostarhxI'm messeging you on your icq no07:46
zerostarhxw07:46
AAAif you really want to tweak your desktop :: use fluxbox or enlightenment07:46
steveireroughly how long might it take for cds to be shipped to germany?07:46
gararhi07:47
gararwhere can i setup my tv-output?07:47
detienI installed automatix and now I cant find Panel menu->System Tools->Configuration Editor. HOw do I put Configuration Editor back into the menu?07:47
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dr_willisgarar,  depends on the video card for a start.07:47
garardr_willis: nvidia geforce07:47
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dr_willisgarar,  i used the nvidia drivers then researched 'twinview' - not sure if theres any more friendly tools out for it at this time.07:48
dr_willis!tvout07:48
ubotuI know nothing about tvout - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:48
|mp|strangely ipconfig (and the related gui tools) tells me that i have an IP address in the 169.254.x.x range, but the actual IP, which can be reached with ping and with ssh, is assigned sucessfully with DHCP from the router - anyone come across this issue?  AFAK, normally IPs in the 169.254 range are automatically assigned by the OS if *no* IP can be obtained from the DHCP server...07:48
dr_willisgarar,  the ubuntu wiki&  forums  may be worth checking out.07:48
BarryAllenglxgears does not show the fps (and i ack glxgears is not a benchamark).... so, how can i see how much fps my vga is making?07:48
skavengeBarryAllen: glxgears -printfps07:48
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=== dr_willis thinks glxgears is a benchmark
dr_willis:)07:48
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BarryAllenskavenge, nopz...07:49
skavengeworks here, do it in a terminal07:49
barreraderwgggggggggggb07:49
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BarryAllenmarx@k2:~$ glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark -printfps07:49
BarryAllenmarx@k2:~$07:49
jribBarryAllen: it takes like 10 seconds07:50
Paladine!restricted07:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:50
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skavengenot .... smart ...07:50
BarryAllenjrib, ahhhh maybe, let me see07:50
garardr_willis: forums from ubuntu.com07:50
jribBarryAllen: and you only need one of the switches :)07:50
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danielknobeblobby.sourceforge.net if u like blobby volley ;)07:50
dr_willisI think someone needs to go slap the glxgears maintainer.07:50
detien!automatix07:50
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.07:50
stefg!easyubuntu07:50
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.07:50
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BarryAllenjrib, works tks :)07:50
EnverexDon't tell people to use Automatix07:51
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stefgrather use easyubuntu07:51
disposable_mikei would discourage the usage of either of those...though, i am not the average user, i suppose07:51
dr_willisOr better - learn to do it yourself. :)07:51
skavengeamen07:51
disposable_mikehm....that wasn't supposed to rhyme :)07:51
gatekeeperrather use apt-get instal lol07:52
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dr_willisapt-get install LearnToReadTheDocsAndWikiForumGuides07:52
dr_willis:)07:52
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usamahi all07:52
gatekeeperdr_willis, I am with you :-)07:52
fyrestrtrhooooleeee crap!!!07:52
fyrestrtrhad to put out a freakin' FIRE!!!07:53
fyrestrtrnow I smell like barbecued meat.07:53
dr_willisDid ya Wee Wee on it?07:53
BarryAllendr_willis, i think i know why glxgears is not a bench....07:53
dr_willisFood fire? Spray beer!07:53
BarryAllendr_willis, marx@k2:~$ glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark -printfps07:54
BarryAllen3406 frames in 5.0 seconds = 681.005 FPS07:54
BarryAllen17798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3559.563 FPS07:54
fyrestrtrnot food fire, paper fire.07:54
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fyrestrtrless than 1ft from my main server.07:54
BarryAllendr_willis, the window was em background :007:54
esodanHi! could any help me about how to configure a nvidia video adapter in a laptop to use a proyector. This is becouse I need reset the X server to allow the nvidia card to "find" the proyector, but the realy problem is: "I can't see any on the laptop screen, just in the image proyected"07:54
dr_willisBarryAllen,  so? :) it gave ya some fps.. ya can compare  how the system is affected by the window being in the front/back.07:54
dr_willis:)07:54
BarryAllenbut is very "manipulable" to be serious07:55
fyrestrtrdr_willis: fps gets affected. Just try to drag or resize the gears window07:55
dr_willisfyrestrtr,  yea... so? :)07:56
Mintyanyone know ho to get my 4 in 1 car reader to be seen, its built in to my lap top07:56
paulm!winw07:56
ubotuI know nothing about winw - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:56
paulm!wine07:56
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:56
dr_willisif i run stuff while running other benchmark programs - it will affect them also.07:56
dr_williswell bbl.07:56
ardchoilleAnyone know an online tutorial for the import app?07:56
MZM!rtfm07:57
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.07:57
dr_williswork time... byee.07:57
disposable_mikei smell a wiki link....07:57
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sundinhej?07:57
sundinhi*07:57
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usama!wine > linuxboyfriend07:57
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ardchoillehmm.. maybe it's imagemagick rather than import07:57
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sundincan i turn of entering/leavingmsgs in xchat?07:58
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usama!wine > usama07:58
danielknobehow can i install java, cant find the packages with apt07:58
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ardchoille!java07:58
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:58
usamasudo apt-cache search java07:59
danielknobeits not available07:59
sundinthanks07:59
danielknobethe package is't available07:59
dyn-afkenable universe and multiverse repositories, then try again07:59
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dyn-afktake a look @ link from ubotu07:59
sundinbbl07:59
danielknobeapt: can't find package07:59
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lamp420hi all07:59
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Coffeegrindshowdy\08:00
MFenthe kernel-image source i downloaded for my kernel doesn't match my kernel08:00
MFeni'm trying to compile vmware-tools and it complains that 2.6.15-7 is not the same as 2.6.15-26-server08:00
MFenwhat can i do about that?08:00
Enverexerm... download the right one?08:00
MFeni did download the right one08:01
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lamp420I'm trying to install a printer but no printer drivers or manufacturers show up in the new printer wizard., the boxes are blank. When I try to install the PPD it says that it's already installed.  Can anyone tell me why this is?08:01
MFeni did apt-get source linux-image-2.6.15-26-server08:01
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gatekeeperdanielknobe, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories08:01
MFenand it downloads something with a different version08:01
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danielknobeisnt it in multiverse?08:01
beerfandanielknobe, search for java from the "add/remove" application menu and check the "unsupported" box08:02
Enverexlamp420, download the foomatic stuff from synaptic08:02
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fo0barwhile the docs state that universe is not supported for security updates, does ubuntu release updates when they have time, or is universe completely ignored after release?08:02
MFenwhat's the correct way to install a preconfigured kernel source?08:02
MFenone that matches the running kernel, so i can build modules08:02
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lamp420this is bs, I'm going to reboot into windows08:02
kuckuckhi there08:02
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ardchoilleNever mind, man display was what I needed :)08:03
gatekeeperdanielknobe, if you are using firefox there is a package search in it08:03
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snim2hi all ... I'm using Dapper Drake and need mogrify. It isn't installed, but if I do 'apt-get install imagemagick*' apt says that all my ImageMagick rpms are up to date. Any ideas?08:03
Coffeegrindsburnout's too lazy..08:03
Guest477in what path can i locate souces.list? please a direct answer :)08:03
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mattttttthmm08:03
skavengeGuest477: /etc/apt/08:03
Guest477tyvm08:03
trappistsnim2: rpms?08:03
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snim2Guest477 -- try 'locate sources.list'08:04
Jack_Sparrowsnim2:  rpm's? what?08:04
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dyn-afk:P08:04
snim2erm, packages?08:04
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trappistsnim2: imagemagick does come with mogrify.  I have it on my system.08:04
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Guest477ty snim208:04
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Jack_Sparrowsnim2: are you using Ubuntu?08:04
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EnverexOk. I have two questions. One is a serious pain in the ass and the other is a serious drain on my battery. Whenever I move any icons around on the Gnome desktop it acts like I have Control held down (and copies if I drag an icon to another place on the desktop) and the other issue is what do I need to do to get the gnome frequency scaling applet on the panel to work? It says I don't have support for scaling.08:04
gatekeepermattttttt, did you successfully install ubuntu?08:05
m0gsiAny one got knot 1 running in vmware yet?08:05
Coffeegrindsher'e a not so linuxy question.. I just got my vnc client up, I can access it via my windows laptop on my internal network via it's FQDN but sor some reason when i try from an outer network it just hangs08:05
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snim2Pants!  Yes, I'm using Dapper. Seems that mogrify is installed on this machine, but it wasn't on my install @work. Sorry guys08:05
Bonez56Enverex: what sort of CPU do you have?08:05
pike_Coffeegrinds: port forwarding on router setup ?08:05
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Coffeegrindsyup ..08:06
trappistCoffeegrinds: sounds like a firewall issue or a routing issue, or maybe the vnc server is listening on one device and not another08:06
dxdemetriouHow can I disable in Dapper for Gnome that where trying to define one file? I have problem fro example if I download many avi files, and slows down the PC.08:06
trappistCoffeegrinds: you need to forward port 590108:06
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jackohow do i make X start with no window manager08:06
snim2dxd -- do you mean how do you get rid of the graphical session?:08:06
jackoso i can test something08:06
Jack_Sparrowdxdemetriou: what?08:06
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trappistjacko: drop to a console by stopping your desktop manager, then just run 'X'08:07
Coffeegrindsport 5901? softwares tellin me 590008:07
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jackotrappist: huh?08:07
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snim2Oh, you can do /sbin/telinit 3 which drops you into a non-X session then start X on it's own...possibly08:07
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ravenhvis_upq08:07
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ravenhvis_:s08:07
trappistjacko: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop... then run 'X'08:07
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stefg!gr > dxdemetriou08:07
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danielknobehow to install java jre08:08
dxdemetriouJack_Sparrow, I don't understand exactly, but I see this problem when I have a binary file of .sub, and the nautilus trying to see it as text file. The other is when I download avi files08:08
danielknobecan't find the package08:08
trappistdanielknobe: enable the multiverse repository in your sources.list08:08
fiznutCan anyone help me fix frostwire? The program runs, but the display starts whiting out spots and acting really strange, then it will pop up with an internal error of some sort that I can't read becasue the box is white08:08
danielknobei have08:08
pimejaWhere i can read about branches in ubuntu repository (dapper, main, universe and so on)? I used sometimes Debian before switched to Ubuntu and I have finded that Ubuntu havn't so many packages. Can i fix it? :) Thx.08:08
Coffeegrindsdanielknobe do you have all the repositories you ned?08:08
danielknobei have allready08:08
trappistdanielknobe: then install sun-java5-jre08:09
Jack_Sparrowdxdemetriou: you just mean they play solw?08:09
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dxdemetriouJack_Sparrow, No. While are downloading, I don't know what trying to do the nautilus, and the system slow down08:09
Coffeegrindspimeja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu08:10
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Jack_Sparrowdxdemetriou: how much memory and how big is your swap partition08:10
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matttttttgatekeeper: i'm on the kubuntu live cd now08:11
Jack_SparrowI need to go in about 20 minutes, paying customers come first.. :)08:11
Jack_Sparrowmattttttt: did you ever get that partitioned?08:11
gatekeepermattttttt, not gone for the hdd install then ? :-)08:11
Jack_Sparrowhey gk08:11
dxdemetriouJack_Sparrow, 512mb ram and 1,2gb the swap. I will make some search for that, maybe will be the thumbnail that try to do for avis.08:11
matttttttJack_Sparrow: not yet08:11
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Coffeegrindsdanielknobe: all you need to REALLY do is.. open synaptic, and click the search, .. type in sun-java and click find.. if you HAve the repository it WILL find it08:12
matttttttgatekeeper: I still might do it, just need to figure it out...08:12
jackook then how do i make X start up a program08:12
jackolike aterm08:12
gatekeepermattttttt, which bit?08:12
Jack_Sparrowmattttttt: If you sent half the time doing your backup as you have in here you would be done by now.08:12
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matttttttgatekeeper: 3208:13
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the_hammerhi guys08:14
Coffeegrindsok guys just have to get a plug out there for BUMPS. didn't write it, but damn if it didn't answer half the questions asked by new ubuntu users08:14
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xed2hello all!08:14
the_hammerhas anyone tried an eggdrop bot before?08:14
xed2can anyone throw me some advice at installing libavcodec2 ?08:14
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ZeZuthe_hammer, of course08:14
xed2boy am i have some trouble, even though referencing this page08:14
xed2<xed2> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1735608:14
ZeZueggdrop is easy08:14
the_hammerzezu ya mines working fine08:15
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the_hammerim just having a hard time figgering out how to add onto it08:15
Coffeegrindsdanielknobe: you get java sorted out?08:15
Myrthif i'll pvremove -ff will it move all data to other physical volumes?08:15
Jack_Sparrowxedlooks more like you should go back to 32bit08:15
ZeZuadd more bots and link them08:15
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ZeZuadd scripts or plugins08:15
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Myrthanyone has experience with lvm?08:16
xed2Jack_Sparrow, go back to 32 bit? what do you exactly mean? sorry but yes im a linux noob on hand, im trying to install zoneminder on this system and libavcodec2 is the only package stopping me08:16
danielknobewhat do u mean  coffeegrinds08:16
the_hammeri got a few addons and the way i been doing it is copying the addon scripts to eggdrop scripts folder and then adding the lines into eggdrop.conf and when bot loads up shows scripts loaded but they dont appear to do anything else08:16
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Coffeegrindsdanielknobe: did you manage to fine sun-java-jre?08:17
Coffeegrindsfind08:17
seanhHere's an interesting message to see on boot, after rebooting following a server install - PCI: Failed to allocate memory resource. And its left me at a text prompt, instead of setting up the desktop system08:17
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ZeZuprob vid card driver failure08:17
ZeZucheck your log files08:17
fit4lfehttp://pastebin.ca/9983408:17
fit4lfemy browsers keep crashing on me08:17
the_hammerzezu can u msg me?08:17
seanhZeZu - where are the files?08:17
fit4lfecan someone check that error msg out08:17
ZeZuthe_hammer, actually i'm about to leave sorry08:17
the_hammerok08:18
seanhDo I have to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop after a server install?08:18
ZeZuseanh, there are some ofthem in /var/log/*08:18
Jack_Sparrowseanh: try going into cmos/bios and setting the USB to 1.2 and not 2 (for testing only)08:18
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ZeZuah08:18
Jack_Sparrow1.108:18
ZeZuafter server yes08:18
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uiaenrtdwhat are these thingies that show cpu temperature etc?08:18
Jack_Sparrowgdesklets08:19
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xed2 PC/Health Status08:19
xed2in the bios at least08:19
fit4lfehttp://pastebin.ca/9983408:19
uiaenrtdthx08:19
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fit4lfecan someone check out that x-sever msg for me08:19
Bonez56i set up gdesklets ages ago but now i can't remember how to get the control panel up to add new ones.08:19
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fit4lfemy browsers keep going down08:19
Jack_Sparrowfit4lfe:  what were doing before it started having problems08:19
seanhZeZu - that's handy, it can't find the package. I need to tell it to look at the CD somehow08:19
Togehello08:19
fit4lfejust checked my gmail08:19
ZeZuheh08:19
fit4lfeand then goes down08:19
Togecan I list my usb hardware?08:19
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ZeZuif it was on the cd08:19
ZeZuthen you could have installed it08:20
danielknobe@ coffee: i only search for java and to download it over apt. but i dont find it, and so i cant download it and i don't know what tto du now08:20
ZeZuits surely not on the cd08:20
Bonez56i set up gdesklets ages ago but now i can't remember how to get the control panel up to add new ones.08:20
Jack_SparrowBonez: it should be in your pull down menus08:20
fit4lfedidn't open anything up page was up for a sec then crashed08:20
ZeZuthats why a lot of people are kindof pissed off w/ the server cd08:20
Bonez56Jack_Sparrow: there is an icon called gdesklets but when you click it nothing happens08:20
ZeZuwhy you think it was only like 400mb ?08:20
Jack_Sparrowor your pull ups.. but that can get personal08:20
antares79hello everyone... is there anyone else currently not able to connect to security.ubuntu.com via http? pinging works fine...08:20
s_spiffdanielknobe, have u enabled all the repos?08:20
seanhZeZu - the server CD was 698MB08:20
livingdaylightwhat does this mean?: Afterwards, a shell script called08:20
livingdaylight"cgoban" will be created. You may copy this shell script to any binaries08:20
livingdaylightdirectory you want and it will run cgoban out of this directory.08:20
ZeZuhmm08:20
ZeZuwell i dunno08:20
fit4lfeanyone else having this problem08:20
Jack_SparrowBonez: id remove and reinstall it to start with08:20
ZeZubut i used the other cd08:20
livingdaylightwhat is a binary?08:20
fit4lfewith x-server08:21
fit4lfecan't even check my email08:21
seanhZeZu - I have a desktop CD too, just need to find the repositories file08:21
fit4lfelol08:21
livingdaylightwould /bin do it?08:21
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fit4lfewith firefox or epiphany08:21
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fit4lfetried reinstalling them to08:21
uiaenrtdare gdesklets costly in startup time?08:21
seanhCan anyone help me with getting the desktop installed after a server CD install? Need to set the CD as repository then apt-get ubuntu-desktop08:22
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livingdaylightwhat does binaries mean?08:22
uiaenrtdwhat do you think?08:22
Togecan you tell me how can I know what usb objects I have?08:22
fit4lfejack_sparrow do you know what the problem could be08:23
msouthlivingdaylight: I don't know the context, but that may just mean "copy this shell script to any directory in your path"08:23
loopout4Anyone up to helping me setup my internet connection?08:23
fit4lfekonquer works fine08:23
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Jack_Sparrowfit4lfe:  what were doing before it started having problems I didnt see your answer08:23
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fit4lfenothing I said08:23
Jack_Sparrowfit4lfe:  INstall flash or something else multimedia08:23
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livingdaylightmsouth, i don't know what that means "directory in your path"08:23
fit4lfeI didn't install anything08:23
msouthdo "echo $PATH" at a command prompt08:23
fit4lfejust firefox and epiphany08:24
loopout4Anyone want to help me setup my internet connection?08:24
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livingdaylightmsouth, "Afterwards, a shell script called08:24
livingdaylight"cgoban" will be created. You may copy this shell script to any binaries08:24
livingdaylightdirectory you want and it will run cgoban out of this directory.08:24
Jack_Sparrowfit4lfe: very odd, no upgrades or changes?08:24
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mineraleI just setup my printer but when I print there's an offset, the printout is lower than it should be and it runs off the page, where can I tweak this ?08:24
livingdaylightmsouth, would /bin do it?08:24
Jack_Sparrowfit4lfe: Something caused it08:24
loopout4whizz - want to helpme setup my internet connect?08:24
livingdaylightmsouth, cgoban is a game08:24
gatekeeperseanh, /etc/apt/sources.list08:24
fit4lfelook at the error msg08:24
msouthlivingdaylight: i would imagine /bin would work, yes08:24
livingdaylightcgoban is a client in fact for playing a game 'go'08:24
seanhOkay I did a server install when I shuld have done an alternate install. I have no Internet connection, but I do have a Desktop CD handy. Can anyone help me to install the desktop from the Desktop CD?08:24
seanhgatekeeper - thanks08:25
fit4lfehttp://pastebin.ca/9983408:25
livingdaylightmsouth, ok08:25
gatekeeperseanh, yw :-)08:25
whizz--i am trying to build a driver (OV511 chip webcam support), the README says: "First you have to configure your kernel appropriately. You must select USB (CONFIG_USB, (CONFIG_USB_UHCI|CONFIG_USB_UHCI_ALT|CONFIG_USB_OHCI)) and Video4Linux (CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV) support for your kernel. Because the kernel has an older version of this driver included, you should not select CONFIG_USB_OV511 to avoid conflicts." How do i do this?08:25
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seanhgatekeeper - my sources.list already has the dapper drake CD listed... but apt is not looking at it.08:26
fit4lfesays its a bug in the program08:26
Jack_Sparrowfit4lfe: Yes, I read it, did it EVER work?08:26
fit4lfesome sites it does08:27
fit4lfeyes08:27
roxluIs there a way to find out how a application/library is compiled when using the synaptic package manager?08:27
gatekeeperseanh, server got internet?08:27
fit4lfebut like gmail no08:27
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Jack_SparrowSo is it gagging on flash or some other mm issue?08:27
fit4lfewould it have anything to do with javascript maybe ?08:27
seanhgatekeeper - the machine in question has no Internet, the wireless card is problematic08:27
fit4lfethere is no flash in gmail08:27
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fit4lfejust ajax and javascript08:27
Jack_Sparrowfit4 I would start there.08:28
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Jack_Sparrowgotta run make some money so I can afford the next Ubuntu release...08:28
gatekeeperseanh, sure you have your cd mounted?08:29
seanhgatekeeper - I guess not, I'll try to figure out how to mount it08:29
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gatekeeper!mount08:30
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks08:30
seanhgatekeeper - I seem to have mounted it, but apt still isn't paying any attention to it08:30
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seanhgatekeeper - I did mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 and it seemed to work. I can ls the contents of the CD now08:31
gatekeeperseanh, hmmm thats seems to be a bit strange08:31
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gatekeeperseanh, try apt-get update08:32
seanhgatekeeper - actually the cdrom listed in sources.list is Ubuntu-Server, I probably need to list Ubuntu-Desktop08:32
abhinayhow to download streamed videos, like rtsp://172.16.10.5/web/movies/cp/part1.rm ???08:33
seanhgatekeeper - yeah, just reports failures to get the Internet servers, doesn't look at the CD08:33
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dganyone had any luck getting a dlink bluetooth dongle working? hcitool scan just gives me: "Device is not available: No such device"08:34
narfmasterabhinay, have you seen that video downloader plugin in firefox?08:34
seanhgatekeeper = Okay, i tired editing Ubuntu-Server to Ubuntu-Desktop in sources.list, but apt-get update is now telling me to use apt-cdrom, so we'll see how that goes08:34
livingdaylightwhat is the command for installing with alien?08:34
gatekeeperseanh, excellent :-)08:34
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earthendoes anyone know what is the latest kernel used by ubuntu 6408:34
livingdaylightsudo alien -i packagename.rpm08:35
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abhinaynarfmaster, it doesn't play in firefox, i play with only realplayer08:35
PingunZWhen I change my /boot/config-2.6.17 file, how can I make that work  ?08:35
KeithWeissharis there a way to install ubuntu using i686 by default instead of i38608:35
narfmasterabhinay, no i meant have you seen that extension?08:35
dgearthen: I have 2.6.15-26-amd64-k8 on dapper08:35
abhinaynarfmaster, Ya08:35
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livingdaylightcan anyone tell me how to install using alien?08:35
KeithWeissharis there any way to install ubunti using linux-686 instead of linux-386 as default08:35
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earthendg, and that the latest?08:35
livingdaylightsudo alien -i packagename.rpm?08:36
dgearthen: yes, it's a security fix version08:36
KeithWeisshari have a pentium d 93008:36
jriblivingdaylight: you try to avoid doing so08:36
PingunZlivingdaylight, just do alien -i thefile.rpm08:36
earthendg, ok08:36
gatekeeperlivingdaylight, what package are you trying to install08:36
seanhgatekeeper - well, apt-cdrom seemed to work, it added an entry to sources.list for the Desktop CD, but apt-get still fails08:36
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bigfoot1i've copied a folder (with its subfolders and files ) from CD-rom onto my harddrive. ON harddrive this folder and everything in it has no "write" permission. what's the quickest way in terminal to get all files/folders inside this folder at once to become "wrrite"?08:36
livingdaylightgatekeeper, cgoban-2.6.12-1.noarch.rpm  a client for playing a game called go08:36
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gatekeeperseanh, you have tried sudo apt-get update first?08:37
seanhgatekeeper - yeah, same thing, it doesn't seem to look at the CD08:37
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narfmasterbigfoot1, chmod -R +w /path/to08:37
bigfoot1narfmaster: thank you08:38
narfmasterbigfoot1, that's guess, but i think it's right08:38
gatekeeperseanh, I am somewhat perplexed, think you need someone with more knowledge than me08:38
ballpointcarrotnarfmaster: that should work.08:38
bigfoot1can anyone confirm what narfmaster said?08:38
seanhgatekeeper - it looks like apt-cdrom unmounted the CD, but I remounted and tried apt-get update again and still nothing08:38
gatekeeperlivingdaylight, have you installed alien?08:38
seanhAnyone know how to upgrade a server install to a Desktop install using a Desktop CD?08:39
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ballpointcarrotbigfoot1: that's correct.08:39
Nukedshould I compile the latest gdm?08:39
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narfmasterseanh, not without reformatting08:39
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void^livingdaylight: make sure you install and activate sun's java for cgoban08:39
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bigfoot1narfmaster: it worked08:39
bigfoot1ballpointcarrot: thanks08:39
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ciaranhello all08:40
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seanhnarfmaster - really? I should be able to just add the Desktop CD as a repos and install the packages from it, no?08:40
ballpointcarrothi ciaran08:40
narfmasterseanh, the Desktop CD doesn't really work that way08:40
ciaranfirst time connecting to channel and a friendly bunch are here :-)08:40
ciarangood stuff!08:40
narfmasterseanh, now if you had the DVD or the alternate that would work08:41
seanhnarfmaster - so it can't be done? The Desktop install doesn't work on this laptop, will I have to burn an alternative install CD?08:41
ballpointcarrotciaran: that's the idea - an open community08:41
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narfmasterseanh, unless you have the internet - you could just apt-get the ubuntu-desktop if you do08:41
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ciarancan anyone please advise on how to open/install a *rpm file?08:41
PingunZALIEN -I08:42
PingunZciaran, just do alien -i name.rpm08:42
PingunZas root ;)08:42
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seanhnarfmaster - unfortunately not, the wireless card is problematic, I'll have to fight that later. Well, I'll have to go home and get another blank. My own fault.08:42
PingunZ!install08:42
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:42
narfmasterseanh, sorry about that08:42
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PingunZ!rpm08:42
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).08:42
roxluCan anyone help me with this: http://paste-it.net/5108:43
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ciaran-su: alien: command not found08:43
ciaran :-(08:43
roxluI've compiled a application with libcairo, but I'm getting this error..08:43
PingunZsudo apt-get install alien ciaran08:43
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ciaranI'll try the others08:43
seanhnarfmaster - is it easier to wipe and install with the alternate CD, or to use it to upgrade the server to Desktop?08:43
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narfmasterseanh, you mean vice versa?08:44
pike_seanh: desktop install is just one command if internet is working08:44
PingunZciaran,  sudo apt-get install alien && sudo alien -i name.rpm08:44
seanhnarfmaster - ?08:44
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phonic_which is better? bawls or red bull?08:44
narfmasterseanh, oh it's definitely easier to wipe and clean install08:44
ciarannice one PinguunZ!08:44
ballpointcarrotciaran: this'll explain alien for you:  http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/08:44
PingunZphonic_, red bull08:44
seanhnarfmaster - okay thanks08:44
PingunZnp ciaran08:45
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phonic_i  prefer bawls08:45
phonic_good taste08:45
PingunZbut phonic_  take this to #ubuntu-offtopic08:45
phonic_o08:45
phonic_my bad08:45
PingunZ;)08:45
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narfmasterroxlu, how did you configure that?08:45
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ciaranit's certainly doing something PingunZ08:45
PingunZhehe ciaran08:46
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klm-what's the best video editing tool for ubuntu?08:46
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narfmasterroxlu, if find that most things need --prefix=/usr when you configure them08:47
phonic_6.06 or breezy badger?08:47
andi5hi... can somebody tell me a link to a page describing current plans/status to integrate xen into ubuntu edgy? thanks in advance :)08:47
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PingunZ6.0608:47
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ciaranit's telling me to run apt-get to fix errors it found PingunZ (what is apt-get I'm new user as you've probably guessed)08:47
phonic_i guess, but i cant get wireless too work on it08:47
PingunZciaran, do sudo apt-get -f install08:48
ballpointcarrotandi5: that question would be better handled in #ubuntu+108:48
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andi5ballpointcarrot: wow, did not know that channel.. thanks!08:48
ballpointcarrotandi5: np08:49
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||cwI just instaled 6.06 server.  I created a new logical partition but the device file did not appear.  do i need to mknod or is there some magic not working?08:49
PingunZciaran, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f upgrade && sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install alien && sudo alien -i THENAMEOFTHEFILE.rpm08:49
ciaranhappy days! it's now a tar file. Thanks PingunZ much appreciated :-D08:50
PingunZ;)08:50
phonic_whats kubuntu like?08:50
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ciaranWell I'm a new user to Ubuntu (approx 1.5 hours new) and I'm impressed already!08:51
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ballpointcarrotciaran:  good to hear.  hope everything goes smoothly for you.08:51
ciaranI'm sure it will mate08:51
narfmaster||cw, you created it using fdisk?08:51
JairunCalothAnyone have experiance with raid arrays here?08:51
||cwnarfmaster: cfdisk, but yeah08:51
narfmaster||cw, that's weird - it really should be there08:52
narfmaster||cw, maybe you just need to reboot or something08:52
||cwnarfmaster: yeah, i'm hezitant to mknod because udev has /dev08:52
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||cwhm.  I did change the IP from dhcp and haven't rebooted, maybe I confused udev08:53
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JairunCalothShouldn't a hardware raid array show up as one drive under the partioner?08:55
andi5||cw: so you created a new logical partition but did not reboot? somehow i think you should do that :) if you created the device file manually, this will not work probably08:55
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JairunCalothraid0 that is08:55
phonic_what should i use too partition ubunt? command util or software?08:55
EnverexJairunCaloth, My SATA RAID0 showed up as two and I couldn't get it to show up with DMRaid at all so I gave up, heh08:55
||cwandi5: I've never had to before, though I don't usualy need logical partitions08:55
Enverexphonic_, Gparted if you're in X, fdisk at a console (the Linux version)08:56
phonic_enverex thanks08:56
JairunCalothEnverex: so the partioner should just see one disk right?08:56
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aquariusI've got a problem with the Gnome panel; it's starting up but only showing half the things on it, and then doesn't respond to clicks. killall gnome-panel restarts it but it does the same thing. This quite often happens after a reboot. How can I try and work out what's wrong?08:57
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EnverexJairunCaloth, Yeah, erm, it will be under /dev/mapper/ rather than /dev/blah though08:58
abhinayhow to download stream videos using mplayer ?08:58
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SuperMiguelhello08:58
aquariusabhinay: mplayer <stream url> or mplayer -playlist <stream url>08:58
Enverexabhi, Open >> Play Url //08:58
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SuperMigueldoes any one how can i remote desktop a windows computer?08:58
abhinayi want to download it to hard disk08:59
earthenanyone here have any luck getting a broadcom wifi card to work08:59
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andi5aquarius: you might try "top" to see whether one applet process uses all your cpu, then kill that one.... some solutions i used: (re)start network, (re)start dbus08:59
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||cwSuperMiguel: rdesktop08:59
comtechhi, I'm running dapper on a p4 1.8/512 system and xorg is using like 15-25% of the cpu whenever I'm doing anything (bittorrent, firefox, synaptic, etc).. I've checked the HD out with smartmontools and it looks to be fine, any advice on speeding this up? my system is hitting 5.00 load running like 5 bittorrents08:59
phonic_Erverex, how long have u used ubuntu too become so knowledable?08:59
||cwSuperMiguel: or install a vnc server on it08:59
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SuperMigueli want to use a remote desktop08:59
andi5aquarius: it sorty automatically09:00
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comtechearthen, I've used it with ndiswrapper09:00
pigeon107really not that long09:00
roxlunarfmaster: is there a ls.so.conf on ubuntu?09:00
spafbnerfne1 can tell me how to disable OSS ? w/o rebuilding the kernel ....09:00
narfmasterroxlu, probably - let me check09:00
spafbnerfit's breaking my midi .....09:00
earthencomtech, what version of the chip have you got i have BCM431809:00
comtechbcm430609:00
aquariusright, then there's not one applet using all the cpu :)09:00
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pigeon107system>>prefs>>remote desktopp09:00
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comtechmy Xorg has used 99 minutes of cpu time in a day...09:01
earthencomtech, I'm haveing allot of trouble with it, it worked using ndiswrapper in breezy with no problems at all09:01
santa99good evening, what tool should i use to search for wireless networks09:01
andi5aquarius: can you estimate what applet gnome-panel is loading currently?09:01
narfmasterroxlu, well not on my system anyway :p09:01
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roxluno indeed09:01
venomgfxhey all09:01
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pigeon107ne1 one had any luck with a mobilepre usb and JACK?09:02
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aquariusandi5: not easily. when i rebooted, it brought up the trashapplet and nothing else. After killing it, I get the menus and a firefox launcher and nothing else.09:02
||cwcommctrl: mines 24 in 5 days09:02
earthencomtech, would you have a link or something I can follow as to see where I went wrong?09:02
venomgfxsomebody has problems with genius wizardpen in the last version of ubuntu?09:02
venomgfxafter upgrading from ubuntu 5.xx09:02
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andi5aquarius: something interesting in ~/.xsession-errors?09:02
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aquariusandi5: nope. Checked there. :)09:03
andi5aquarius: and try to restart dbus :)09:03
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pigeon107anyone had any luck using a mobile pre usb with JACKd?09:04
aquariusandi5: just tried that as well (/etc/init.d/dbus restart, which restarted hal and avahi as well), and then killed the panel again; same thing.09:04
Super_Cat_Froghi - does anybody know the name of the script included with vice that installs the kernel rom?09:04
andi5aquarius: do you run a proxy?09:04
venomgfxsomebody using graphic table?09:04
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aquariusandi5: nope. (what sort of proxy?)09:04
andi5aquarius: http, but you said no :)09:04
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tonyyarussoAnyone think the AMD aquisition will improve Linux support for ATI graphics?09:05
aquariusandi5: just checking there wasn't some dbus proxy or something that i don't know about ;)09:05
aquariustonyyarusso: would be nice to think so, but...it'll take a while, if it happens at all.09:05
||cwtonyyarusso: we can hope09:05
andi5aquarius: the last think i can tell you.... take a throrough look at ps axf.... thenk kill every applet, one after the other ;-)09:05
aquariusahaha!09:06
pigeon107anyone had any luck using a mobile pre usb (usb pre amp) with JACKd?09:06
aquariusit was deskbar.09:06
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tonyyarussoHasn't been speculated about by anyone inside though I suppose.09:06
||cwATI has always had weak drivers, even for windows.  the troubling part is, AMD doesn't need drivers so they don't have much of track record to make a judgment against09:06
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Enverex||cw, Not true, there are Linux versions of most their programs and drivers on their site09:07
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andi5aquarius: any idea what made deskbar go crazy?09:07
||cwEnverex: I said the drivers are weak, not non-existant09:07
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eulyany ideas, why this dont work: /ignore -regexp -pattern "has joined" *09:07
pigeon107yea speacially for old ati cards09:07
euly?09:07
thundrHi, I need help getting my wireless going.  What are some of the programs that control wireless?09:07
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pigeon107go to the network panel09:08
axso anyone else have issues with dapper and colors  "black", "Black", "White" not being found (and making terminal emulators not run, screensavers messed up, etc)?09:08
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aquariusandi5: nope. Just about to check that now and fix it :)09:08
santa99what tool should i take to look for connecting to wireless netwokrs09:08
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Super_Cat_Frogthundr: kcontrol09:08
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narfmastereuly, /ignore works on a host mask09:08
MarcNsanta99: I like network-manager09:08
||cwEnverex: when i had a ATI Rage 4mb card and had to call ATI and was told to enter a win95 registy hack to make IE draw pictures correctly, well that's when i swore off ATI09:08
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eulynarfmaster: that means what?09:08
narfmastereuly, like *!*@*.aol.com09:09
eulynarfmaster: it only understands chinese backwards then?09:09
NthDegreeuhhh ATI is the reason XP needs an extra 14mb09:09
SuperMiguelthe root password09:09
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SuperMiguelis the same as the user password?09:09
NthDegreefor sudo yes09:09
narfmastereuly, 22 tons of flak09:09
NthDegreesudo -i09:09
||cwNthDegree: nv drivers are hogs too.  any 3d accelerated driver is09:09
SuperMiguelhow come it not work for me09:09
pigeon107no, ur user name is in te sudoers file09:10
eulynarfmaster: so how do i tell it to ignore joins?09:10
pigeon107so you mostly all if not all root privs09:10
NthDegree||cw, but ATI has a patch built into XP that is installed even if you don't have an ATI card09:10
NthDegreewaste of space09:10
SuperMiguelwhen i put09:10
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SuperMiguelsu09:10
||cwinteresting09:10
SuperMiguelon the terminer09:10
narfmastereuly, to do that, you need a custom *event* handler09:10
SuperMigueland i put my password09:10
SuperMiguelit said acces denied09:10
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NthDegreeSuperMiguel, put sudo -i then your password09:11
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eulynarfmaster: alright. where do i buy one?09:11
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thundrSuper_Cat_Frog: Anything similar for gnome?09:11
m1ckeyknoxhow can I open file browser with sudo? (what is the command for it)09:11
narfmastereuly, i don't know how to do that but you may find it in /help09:11
NthDegreem1ckeyknox: sudo nautilus ./09:11
eulym1ckeyknow: nautilus --browser &09:11
Rufflesm1ckeyknox: gksudo 'nautilus --no-desktop /'09:11
m1ckeyknoxthanks.09:11
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andi5NthDegree: this is the first time i read that someone suggests sudo -i ... i do that all the time :)09:11
pigeon107do u need the ./09:12
NthDegreenope09:12
thundrSuper_Cat_Frog: Also, I can't find kcontrol09:12
CokeNCodewhat does the '-i' switch do ?09:12
NthDegreeit is so you can load the directory you are in09:12
pigeon107ah09:12
andi5CokeNCode: man sudo :)09:12
NthDegreesudo -i loads you as root09:12
pigeon107thats coo09:12
mineraleI just setup my printer but when I print there's an offset, the printout is lower than it should be and it runs off the page, where can I tweak this ?09:12
pigeon107keeps u in root09:12
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pigeon107or root privs09:12
EnverexHow do I set how long it saves the root password for?09:13
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SuperMiguelim trying to install rdesktop09:13
pigeon107ur acutal root passwd is scrabled on install, but u can change it before you restart into x for the first time09:13
kaiSVKhi all09:13
kaiSVKhow can I enable root account ?09:13
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pike_Enverex: it mightbe in /etc/sudoers09:13
andi5it is not09:14
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bigfoot1i opened "sudo nautilus" . how do i get to my home dir?09:14
Enverexpike_, I couldn't see anything time related in there09:14
eulykaiSVK: su passwd root09:14
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SuperMiguelim trying to install rdesktop and when i write make install it said permission denied09:14
pigeon107type /home in the text box09:14
eulykaiSVK: sudo passwd root09:14
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bigfoot1how do i get to home dir?09:14
pigeon107are you doing it from cmd line?09:14
eulybigfoot1: cd09:14
EtienneGkaiSVK, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for the whole story09:14
||cwSuperMiguel: sudo apt-get install rdesktop ?09:15
kaiSVKbigfoot1, cd /home/name09:15
andi5bigfoot1: better gksudo nautilus09:15
pigeon107type /home in the browser09:15
funkjaHi, I plugged in my Mp3 player into my usb drive and it the "usbdisk" thing popped up fine and showed all my files. When I go in and delete them, they disapear from the file listing but it doesn't create free space.09:15
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kaiSVKEtienneG, thanx09:15
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comtechearthen, not really, I do have a little info up at www.8cylinder.org/i510009:15
pike_Enverex: im not on ubuntu box right now..09:15
bigfoot1andi5: thanks09:15
eulyfunkja: press CTRL+H go to the .Trash file and kille em again09:15
aquariusEnverex: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Change_default_timeout_in_sudo09:15
||cwfunkja: emtpy trash09:15
zener759hi. can anyone help me out with getting the live CD version to see the local drive partitions?09:16
||cwfunkja: or delete just those file from trash if you want o keep th rest09:16
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santa99is there a tool like kwifi , kwifi-manager for gnome ?09:16
funkjais there a way to format a usbdisk?09:16
||cwsanta99: I thik dapper has one, I kind of recall it being in my toolbar on my laptop09:16
||cwfunkja: use the disk manager09:17
andi5funkja: umount it and format it like every other block device.... do you want to do it graphically?09:17
Ruffleszener759: mount /dev/hdX /mnt/ (where hdX is your local partition)09:17
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venomgfxsomeone can help me with my tablet?09:18
funkjaandi5, ||cw: either way. I just want it done. The usbdisk doesn't show up in disk manager09:18
||cwfunkja: mine does09:18
venomgfxi cant make it work since i upgraded from ubuntu 5.xx09:18
Enverexaquarius, Erm, that goes to a page that is nothing to do with sudo09:18
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mattttttthmm09:18
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aquariusEnverex: not for me it doesn't? "HowTo: Change default timeout (from 5 minutes) in sudo"09:19
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funkjaandi5: how do I find the device address to unmount it?09:19
matttttttgatekeeper: you around?09:19
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Rufflesdo you guys know any script for irssi ?09:19
Ruffleslike those made for bitchx...09:20
andi5funkja: you can enter mount in the terminal and look at the output (i cannot find disk manager currenty :-/)09:20
aquariusRuffles: http://www.irssi.org/scripts/09:20
Enverexaquarius, Ok that's weird, opera always opens on the "What's new in Gnome" page =/09:20
Rufflesaquarius: thanks dude09:20
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Bellerophonhello, I just tried to burn dapper and install it, but it gives me an error(something bout illogical block thing, guess the cd failed burning), now I tried this with gnomebaker, don't know if that is the problem, if perhaps somebody has a command line option?09:20
aquariusEnverex: hm. that'd be an opera problem, that. I suspect that the default browser thing needs to be configured to pass a URL differently.09:21
pussfeller!buildpackage09:21
ubotuI know nothing about buildpackage - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:21
||cwBellerophon: try burning at a slower speed09:21
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JairunCalothso yea... the installer isn't detecting my raid array09:21
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zener759thanks Ruffles, but I tried that... Doesn't work ;-( It reports something like "unable to start volume". It mounts any USB devices 100% though09:22
Bellerophonmaybe I'd check the md5 code first?09:22
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caro_ola ablas espaol09:22
||cwJairunCaloth: you have to use the alternat cd to do RAID09:22
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pussfelleryeah, you always wanna burn isos at very slow speed, they do a crc check ussually when installing the packages contained and minor errors that don't show up say on a MUSIC cd will09:22
JairunCalothThis is the alternate CD09:22
||cwunless it's true hardware raid09:22
Bellerophonthat idea just popped in my head :p09:22
funkjaandi5: the command for unmounting is what?09:22
caro_you spain09:22
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JairunCalothAnd as far as I know it's hardware raid09:22
||cwJairunCaloth: well, it's software raid anyway, so just make a raid09:22
||cwJairunCaloth: what raid card09:23
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andi5funkja: sudo umount ${device}, where device will be /dev/sda1 or whatever09:23
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JairunCalothMy onboard raid09:23
||cwJairunCaloth: heh, unless it's SCSI with a ZCR, that's software raid09:23
Rufflesaquarius: these scritps are more of "addons". do you know any complete script like cypress?09:24
Rufflesscripts*09:24
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JairunCalothreally..09:24
||cwJairunCaloth: in windows, it's done the the driver software09:24
||cwlinux has some support for that also09:24
funkjaandi5: errr... the command to format? :-)09:25
andi5funkja: what file system?09:25
aquariusRuffles: don't know, I'm afraid. there may not be any; bitchx is oriented a bit more towards scripters.09:25
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Ruffleszenwhen: read your /etc/fstab and you'll learn a lot :)09:25
Rufflesaquarius: mmmm.. i see09:25
Rufflesirssi looks promissing though09:25
JairunCalothSo why do I configure my raid in the bios, if it's not a true raid controller?09:25
andi5JairunCaloth: promise?09:26
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funkjaandi5: vfat09:26
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rretzbachHi.09:26
||cwJairunCaloth: the bios stores a signature that the driver picks up and does the raid in software09:26
eulyclear09:26
eulyups :)09:26
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||cwJairunCaloth: it's a marketing trick.  it IS most definatly software raid.09:26
andi5funkja: sudo mkfs.vfat ${device} :)..... or more generally, sudo mkfs.${fs} ${dev}09:26
rretzbachI just installed ubuntu server, but I run it on my notebook. Is driver support the same as in the desktop version?09:26
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JairunCalothcd: that's pretty messed up09:27
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EnverexWhat's the line to add to the sudoers file to let you sudo without having to enter your password?09:27
||cwJairunCaloth: it does have the binifit that the raid card handles the boot failover09:27
||cwwell, for raid109:27
venomgfxplease? :(09:27
Rufflesrretzbach: ubuntu is ubuntu no matter u're using it as a server or desktop09:27
||cwbut then, raid0 isn't technicaly raid anyway09:27
Rufflesit's all the same i guess so09:27
||cwbrb09:27
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ciaranbye guys & thanks for the help09:28
jeff_hannEnverex, are you sure you wann ado that?09:28
jeff_hann*wanna do09:28
EnverexYes09:28
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eulyis there a way to do this for all channels?: /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS09:28
funkjaandi5: thank you. You've been very helpful.09:28
andi5funkja: but you see, it is not hard =)09:29
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funkjaandi5: I usually know what I want to do, I just don't know how to do it :)09:29
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EnverexNevermind, I've done it09:29
Phlexonancehow do I install JRE, I have the jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin, what do I do with it?09:29
rretzbachRuffles: So I have no disadvantages at getting special hardware to run with the server edition?09:29
jeff_hannoki09:30
cocos_hello, is there a way to check if i installed the vga driver correctly?09:30
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eulyPhlexonance: What happens, when you execute it?09:30
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aquariusPhlexonance: you can install the JRE directly from the ubuntu repositories if you'd prefer, which is easier.09:30
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JairunCalothOK, so next question since I have to set this up as a software raid, How exactly do I go about doing the partitions? Just put half of the partiton I want on each?09:30
Phlexonanceaquarius: and whats it called there?09:30
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Phlexonanceaquarius: apt-get install ?09:31
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raguanuHELP: i am trying to install my ethernet card. i have driver source and makefile. could anyone guide me through the process?09:31
andi5Phlexonance: sun-j2re1.509:31
aquariussun-java5-jre, I think. It should be in synaptic. (YOu might need to enable repositories like universe or multiverse)09:31
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scabootsscahas anyone gotten yahoo music videos to work in kubuntu?09:32
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scabootsscaubuntu whatever09:32
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Rufflesraguanu: what's your eth card?09:32
xed2hello everyone09:32
Phlexonanceaquarius: sure synaptics, always forget about that, used to apt-get ^09:32
xed2im trying to install zoneminder09:32
Mintyis there a log that is written when a problem arrives in linux09:32
bigfoot1while uploading a file via web upload, i moved the file to trash. and upload is still going? is this Linux magic?09:32
xed2can anyone help me out ?09:32
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andi5Phlexonance: you might try aptitude too (but either synaptic or aptitude)09:33
aquariusPhlexonance: "apt-cache search sun java" :-)09:33
bobbywCan not find PySoulSeek modules.09:33
bobbywPerhaps they're installed in a directory which is not09:33
bobbywin an interpreter's module search path.09:33
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thundrHi, I need help getting my wireless going.09:33
bobbywanyone know how I can fix that?09:33
ronaldoI just distupgraded to dapper09:33
ronaldobut I see my screen tiled09:33
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cocos_hello, is there a way to check if i installed the vga driver correctly?09:33
ronaldoI see everything 6 times09:33
cocos_!sound09:33
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems09:33
aquariusbobbyw: what are you getting it from?09:33
eulycocos_: what means correctly?09:34
Rufflesronaldo: that'd make up a nice puzzle09:34
Ruffleslol09:34
andi5bobbyw: hm... i do not know pysoulseek, but you might have luck with the environment variable PYTHONPATH09:34
cocos_euly: if its the right one if i installed it good if it works09:34
ronaldoRuffles: :)09:34
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Phlexonanceaquarius: whats it called in synaptics, theres tons of entrys with "java" in the name09:34
bobbywI get it after aliening and installing a redhat rpm09:34
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eulycocos_: looks like it works, when you see what we write.09:35
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cocos_euly: yeah well that just a generic driver..09:35
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Ruffleswould my pc's perfomance improve if i changed my swap partition from 133mb into 256mb ?09:36
aquariusbobbyw: you don't have pysoulseek installed. That doesn't seem to be packaged for Ubuntu, as far as I can tell. http://www.sensi.org/~ak/pyslsk/ is the site for pysoulseek.09:36
thoreauputicRuffles: how much RAM do you have?09:36
andi5Ruffles: unlikely (disks are slow)09:36
EnverexRuffles, How much RAM do you have?09:36
tjb891how do I tell if a Sandisk Sansa e130 512MB Portable Digital Music Player  works with ubuntu09:36
aquariusPhlexonance: sun-java5-jre, I believe.09:36
Rufflesthoreauputic: 256 with 32mb shared with onboard video09:36
bobbywaquarius: I'm at that site, that's where I downloaded the rpm and installed it09:37
mnpwill sudo apt-get install install eterm for me? i couldn't find it in the Install New Programs utility09:37
Enverextjb891, Does it show up as a mass storage device in Windows and just let you copy files to and from it?09:37
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thoreauputicRuffles: I think at least 500 or so MB for swap then09:37
Rufflessometimes my system almost freezes runnin' firefox, a music player and another stuff at the same time09:37
CntryboyIs Gaim-vv any good for voice chat? I'm wanting voice for yahoo. Any ideas?09:37
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tjb891its is windows play for shure, i haven't bought it yet09:37
thoreauputicRuffles: 133 is very low09:37
Enverextjb891, Google for peoples experience then09:37
tjb891ok09:37
aquariusbobbyw: ah. then alien hasn't managed to convert the rpm to a deb properly. You may want to install it the manual way rather than using the RPM.09:37
Rufflesbut.. what's the real role for swap? i've heard of ppl who runs linuxes without swap partitions09:38
andi5!tell mnp about universe09:38
thoreauputicRuffles: only if they have quite alot of RAM09:38
Rufflesmmmm.. and the lack of swap space... can it be the reason why my system sometimes gets so slow?09:38
JairunCalothSo I can do this by using DMraid and a live CD install?09:38
thoreauputicRuffles: if you run out of RAM you need swap ( hence your trouble running multiple apps)09:39
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CntryboyAnyone?09:39
EnverexRuffles, It's for when you run out of physical RAM and none of your physical RAM can be freed up as it's currently all actually in use09:39
thoreauputicRuffles: but swa is always slower than RAM of course09:39
bobbywhmm09:39
thoreauputic*swap09:39
bobbywnow it seems to be telling me wxPython isn't installed09:39
EnverexI didn't use to bother with a Swap and on this PC the swap has never been touched, but that's because it has 2GB of physical09:39
gnomefreakCntryboy: i dont think gaim-vv is complete09:39
bobbywshould it be instaled with a ubuntu install?09:39
andi5Cntryboy: you might tree ekiga (gnomemeeting)09:40
Rufflesmmmmm.. it looks like the window's virtual memory09:40
EnverexRuffles, It's the same thing09:40
raguanui am ubuntu newbie. i think swap is similar to windows pagefile. so if you have low ram, increasing swap space might help not freezing the system..09:40
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thoreauputicRuffles: similar, yes09:40
EnverexRuffles, Except Windows uses a file, Linux uses a drive/partition09:40
gnomefreakbobbyw: no wxpython is not installed by deafult09:40
Rufflesmmmm.. ic09:40
bobbywraguanu: it IS the windows page file09:40
gnomefreakdefault09:40
EtienneGRuffles, note that suspend-to-disk also require a swap partition >= physical RAM to write down the RAM on disk09:40
Cntryboyandi5: i'm using kubuntu not sure if gnomemeeting would work that great but I could be wrong, but I want something for yahoo, like to hear voice in music rooms09:40
bobbywjust in it's own partition09:40
JairunCalothOr could I go into command line mode with the alt CD and install and run DM raid from there?09:40
Rufflesbut... the swap gets used even though there's still free ram available right?09:41
EnverexRuffles, no09:41
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thoreauputicRuffles: yes it does09:41
Cntryboygnomefreak: any ideas for voice in yahoo then?09:41
thoreauputicEnverex: yes it does09:41
Rufflesmmmm..09:41
Enverexthoreauputic, Mine hasn't been touched at all since I installed Ubuntu on this machine09:41
Rufflesnow it's starting to sound clearer09:41
gnomefreakCntryboy: no i havent used yahoo in forever :(09:41
andi5Cntryboy: basically gnomemeeting should work in kubuntu just as well as in ubuntu (if you do not mind installing some of gnomes packages)09:41
thoreauputicEnverex: but you have 2 gigs of RAM09:41
thoreauputic:)09:41
fit4lfeanyone have problems with the flash plugin for firefox09:41
Enverexthoreauputic, Yes, and? He said " but... the swap gets used even though there's still free ram available right?"09:42
fit4lfeor geko engine type browsers09:42
thoreauputicEnverex: I have 512 and swap is used a bit most of the time09:42
thundrI need help getting my wireless going.  Can anyone help?09:42
Enverexthoreauputic, yes, likely when you run out of RAM09:42
thoreauputicEnverex: npo09:42
livingdaylightdid someone say something to me?09:42
Cntryboyandi5: thats the prob, i'm using dialup at 2.1KB :(09:42
thoreauputicEnverex: you don't understand swap09:42
ChousukeA bit of swap is used all the time.09:42
Enverexthoreauputic, So why would yours be used and mine wouldn't?09:42
santa99is there a repository for netstumbler ?09:42
livingdaylightdid someone want to say something to me regarding alien?09:42
andi5Cntryboy: sorry, i have not run kde for years...09:43
thoreauputicEnverex: because swap holds stuff that hasn't been used for a while but might get called09:43
EnverexMy Swap usage has been sitting at a flat ZERO and has never gone above that09:43
thoreauputicEnverex: so?09:43
raguanuhow to check the swap usage?09:43
Enverexfree -m09:43
andi5raguanu: free09:43
thoreauputicEnverex: all that means is you have a lot of RAM09:43
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Rufflesgnome task manager09:43
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bobbywhmm, I can't find a binary/source of wxPython 2.6 and apt-get install wxPython doesn't work :(09:43
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Rufflesautomatix does a nice job09:43
bytefoodoes anyone know why i can only play one sound at a time?09:43
raguanuThanks..I will try free.09:44
Rufflesit has activated the system monitor by pressing control+alt+del :)09:44
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Enverexthoreauputic, You're not making any sense. If it's because I have lots of RAM that it's not being used, that would mean that it is only used when the RAM is full, and ergo I'd be right in my initial statement09:44
aquariusbobbyw: what does it do when you try to apt-get install it?09:44
Dev05Hi! Can someone give me a hand with networking?09:44
Rufflesbytefoo: maybe you ain't using alsa09:44
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thoreauputicEnverex: on my iBook with 768 MB RAM swap stays at zero09:44
Rufflesor alsa supported apps09:44
raguanuHELP: i am trying to install my ethernet card. i have driver source and makefile. could anyone guide me through the process?09:44
bytefoowell i'm using rhythmbox and highlighting an mp3 in nautilus09:44
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thoreauputicEnverex: read about it - sorry but you don't get it at all09:44
bytefooso i would hope those are supported since its the default...09:44
raguanuMy eth card is: Silan SC92031 PCI  Fast Ethernet Adapter09:45
Rufflesraguanu: what's your ethernet card???09:45
Cntryboyanyone in here know what I can use for yahoo voice?09:45
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andi5raguanu: are you sure your ethernet is not supported by stock kernels?09:45
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bigfoot1the login screen is currently set to DVORAK layout. How can i make it QWERY keyboard layout?09:45
Rufflesraguanu: have you tried the kernel modules yet?09:45
Dev05raganu, There should be some README file in your driver's source.09:45
raguanuyes. ruffles. its not supported.09:45
raguanuthe driver cd provides. source code and makefile.09:45
Rufflesraguanu: google man.. google...09:45
Ruffleshehehe09:45
Enverexthoreauputic, I probably would if you made some sense, heh. All you've basically said is SWAP doesn't get used if you have more RAM, which logic would dictate would be because you've run out of Physical RAM.09:45
Dev05raganu, There it should guide you through compilation and installation.09:45
thoreauputicEnverex: the kernel is smarter than you :)09:46
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EnverexYou said that it is used for things anyway, but if that were true then mine would be anyway, as would your machine that you just mentioned09:46
Rufflesmy swap gets used although my ram is still not filled up09:46
thoreauputicEnverex: wrong09:46
EnverexNo no, that's not how you do it09:46
thoreauputicEnverex: read about kernel emory management09:46
raguanuDev05. yes there is readme file. i am pretty new to linux. i don't know how to compile the source as they say.09:46
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Lex-LuthorWRONG!09:46
MarcNRuffles: that is fine.  it is probably some old, relatively unused processes.  say mgetty for console logins.09:46
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Rufflesbut.. what i don't understand is.. my friend has 256mb RAM and told me he doesn't need swap space at all09:46
Intangiri accidently installed AMD64 server09:47
Intangirinstead of desktop09:47
Dev05raganu, Can you send me the README?09:47
Intangirhow can i install the rest of the desktop installation from command line?09:47
thundrRuffles: doesn't it depend on what he runs?  His usage could be different than yours.09:47
raguanudevo5 sure.09:47
neomDoes Mark Shuttleworth ever come here?09:47
MarcNIntangir: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:47
Rufflesthundr: well.. we both run gnome09:47
Intangirk thats what i thought09:47
mc__neom, i dont think so09:47
bigfoot1there's no option to change keyboard layouts in the login screen. so i guess it must be chosen beforehand. where?09:47
thoreauputicRuffles: ask your friend to leave his machine up for a few days, and check his swap after cron daily runs09:47
Intangirit installs TONS of junk though09:47
Intangirlike TOOONS of junk hehe09:47
Rufflesthesonork: he hasn't got swap09:47
crimsunneom: rarely, but he's in the dev channel intermittently.09:47
Intangiri even saw a packages named bicyclerepair09:47
EnverexRuffles, I'm sure you both run more than just Gnome09:48
mc__crimsun, are you joking?09:48
Intangirim not sure what that is.. but .. bicycle repair? come on ;)09:48
Rufflesof course09:48
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crimsunmc__: why would I be joking?09:48
gnomefreakmc__: no09:48
Rufflesbut isn't gnome the heaviest?09:48
ronaldoRuffles: apparently something with my MonitorLayout option09:48
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EnverexRuffles, No09:48
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EnverexRuffles, That would be KDE09:48
mc__mark shuttleworth himself is in the dev channel? omg09:48
Rufflesno man.. amongst the other stuff in a desktop09:48
ronaldoback to 1 desktop :)09:48
Cntryboygnomefreak: have ya heard of pY! Voice Chat 0.3 and does it work?09:48
EnverexTWM > Flux > Enlightenment > XFCE > Gnome > KDE (smallest to largest)09:49
Rufflesno one runs kde and gnome at the same time09:49
gnomefreakmc__: he is a very big part in ubuntu09:49
raguanuDev05: I hve sent the file. it is in waiting status now..09:49
gnomefreakCntryboy: never heard of it09:49
RancidLMim trying to get xgl+ubuntu+nvidia twinview to work.. does any one know how to set gnome-panel to stay to one monitor and make windows not pop up center monitor split?09:49
mc__gnomefreak, but not a developer afaik?09:49
neomcrimsun, What is the dev channel?09:49
gnomefreakmc__: i think he is also09:49
EnverexRuffles, Erm, I know they don't, I was correcting you when you said Gnome was the heaviest09:49
Rufflesi just can't use kde09:49
IntangirGnome isnt a window manager though09:49
gnomefreakmc__: he has a few packages he maintains/created iirc09:49
crimsunneom: -devel09:49
Intangirit uses metacity09:50
Rufflesbut i meant heaviest in a standard desktop.. runnin' web browser, xmms and stuff09:50
Intangirusually..09:50
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EnverexErm, although I have run KDE, Gnome and XFCE4 at the same time together09:50
EnverexRuffles, It IS the desktop, not a program09:50
Enverex(obviously in seperate X sessions, but still at the same time, I was trying to decide which to use)09:50
Rufflesyep.. as in a desktop.. a standard ubuntu, wouldn't gnome be the heaviest of the processes?09:51
EnverexNo, X would be09:51
EnverexThen probably nautilus09:51
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thoreauputicEnverex: OK I'll try again once :) Example: when cronm daily runs it uses a lot of memory pages that are not subsequently needed - if you have a lot of ram that cn happen without swap but with say 500MB it will happen. The kernel will dump that as required later so that your rqm is used well09:51
EnverexAh, here we go...09:51
Dev05raguanu, I don't see it...09:51
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Bellerophonhm, I think I need a new nickname, It's clear that my cd drive is chimerae, but he obviously refuses to work. I tried burning the cd at a lower speed, but still the cd is 'broken'(cant get a md5sum of it, input/output error) :(09:51
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rretzbachI tried to install X, but I failed as I see no xstart.09:52
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thoreauputicEnverex: so some swap will still sit here even though all the RAM is not being used09:52
EnverexFrom largest to smallest - XOrg, x-session manager, gnome-panel, nautilus,  clock(!!)--applet, update notifier09:52
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rretzbachI installed a wm, xserver-xorg and x-window-system-core.09:52
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rretzbachWhat do I need now?09:53
EnverexGet that all Ruffles ?09:53
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Rufflesclock??!!?!?09:53
Rufflesoh gosh09:53
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EnverexRuffles, yeah, the clock applet, lol09:53
Rufflesthat's nutz09:53
thoreauputicEnverex: did that help at all ? :)09:53
Rufflesi've noticed that from the system monitor09:53
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Ruffleslemme go to xchat09:53
Enverexthoreauputic, Yeah, that's assuming you have a boatload of crap to run all at the same time though, heh09:53
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thoreauputicEnverex: not really - the remaining swap is from the cron job09:54
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thoreauputicEnverex: as soon as you start up something new the kernel fixes the balance09:55
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Rufflesand what are the standard services used by ubuntu in which i could safely remove to get my system runnin' faster?09:55
Bellerophoncould it be that my cd burner is broken? I tried to burn it twice with gnomebaker, everything goes fine, but still the cd is corrupted. Or isn't gnomebaker reliabe?09:55
Rufflesklogd?09:55
Rufflescould i disable that?09:55
bytefooso anyone know why i can only play one sound at a time, it worked fine last week :|09:55
rretzbachGnar. Is there a meta package to help me installing all needed x window packages?09:55
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gnomefreakBellerophon: gnomebaker is fine i use it most of time09:55
Dev05raguanu, Can you try again?09:55
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Rufflesbytefoo, if you are trying to use skype forget about the other programs.. skype doesn't support alsa09:56
Bellerophongnomefreak, strange :(09:56
bytefoono skype works fine for me09:56
gnomefreakon your system might be different Bellerophon09:56
bytefooits all my gnome stuff that doesn't work :(09:56
Rufflesyep but skype linux doesn't share de audio card09:56
bytefooi tried turning off esd but that didn't do anything09:56
Rufflesskype linux is kind of selfish09:56
bytefoobut then how am i able to play music while skype is still on09:57
Bellerophongot any suggestions what I could try?09:57
tjb891is there a way to make .wma s in ubuntu (for a mp3 player, not to actaully play in linux)09:57
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gnomefreakBellerophon: try k3b09:57
Rufflesbytefoo, you ain't09:57
Bellerophongnomefreak, ok thanks09:57
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gnomefreakyw09:57
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Rufflesbytefoo, you can play music until skype attempts to use the sound card09:58
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Cntryboyanyone in here ever try gyach-enhanced?09:58
Rufflesthen u won't be able to talk on it09:58
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thundrtjb891: I'd avoid making wmas at any cost they're completely inferior  -  If you can use ogg or mp3 it'd be much better09:58
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bytefoook that's fine, but i never mentioned skype; you did, that's not my problem.  my problem is that i can't get anything within gnome to play concurrent sounds09:58
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Dev05Anyway, is there anyone with some spare time to help me out???09:58
mc__!ask > Dev0509:59
gnomefreakDev05: ask your question please09:59
WhyvasDev05, don't ask to ask09:59
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Rufflesbytefoo, did you make sure you're using alsa?09:59
bytefoohow do i check?09:59
DeeghetalHello everyone. I'm a completely new Ubuntu user switching from XP. I'm reading the documentation right now but I'm sure I'll have questions later. ;)09:59
tjb891yes i know but  my coupon to radioshack will get me  Sandisk Sansa e130 at a deep discount and it can hold twice as many wmas as uit can mp3s, i not actaully going to listen to them anywhere else09:59
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jribDeeghetal: welcome to ubuntu09:59
Dev05mc__, gnomefreak, whyvas, I'm trying to get my wireless network up with Windows.10:00
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Rufflesbytefoo, multimedia systems selector10:00
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Rufflesbytefoo, right on preferences menu10:00
gnomefreakDev05: this is not windows support10:00
Ruffleswindows?10:00
Ruffleswhat's windows?10:00
thundrtjb891: even if you sample the mp3s down?  It might be an issue of encoding them at a smaller bitrate.10:00
Phlexonancejust installed the jre and need to set the path in opera, but I have no idea were the jre installed to10:00
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bytefooyah it says intel ich6 (alsa mixer)10:00
WhyvasDev05, is your wireless card detected?10:00
bytefoothere is also an oss one too10:00
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bytefoobut it isn't selected10:00
tjb891ok, good, i really do hate wmas i just like 16 hours of play vs. 810:00
Dev05gnomefreak, No, I'm on Linux and I want it to create a network that can talk with windows.10:00
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Dev05Whyvas, Yes I can even see others' networks.10:01
IntangirDev05: you might want samba10:01
bytefoobut it hink that's because i installed alsa-oss so i could firefox to work with sound10:01
WhyvasDev05, use samba or NFS10:01
mc__!samba > Dev0510:01
DeeghetalI was told that in Ubuntu you shouldn't be logged in as root to install packages and should instead use sudo. Is it BAD to be in root?10:01
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Dev05Intangir, I just want my windows laptop to use Ubuntu's internet connection.10:01
Rufflesnah10:01
Rufflesthat's just a security option10:01
Rufflesyou can log as root10:01
DeeghetalIt never prompted me to select a root password though is it the same as my user pass?10:02
mc__Deeghetal, i normally use root if have to execute more then 1 command10:02
Dev05Whyvas, mc__, You do that with Samba???10:02
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IntangirDev05: how are they both connected to eachother? and the internet?10:02
WhyvasDev05, the laptop is hardwired into the desktop?10:02
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RufflesDeeghetal, to setup your root password type: sudo passwd root10:02
Deeghetalok thankyou10:02
Rufflessudo -s10:02
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Rufflesit's ok for me10:02
bobbywDeeghetal: no it's not bad, it's just dangerous to use it too much10:02
Intangirwhats -s do?10:03
Dev05Intangir, Whyvas, Ubuntu connects through Ethernet to Internet. Windows is supposed to connect trough Wireless to Ubuntu and use its Internet connection.10:03
Rufflesu login as root10:03
Rufflessudo -s10:03
Rufflesit gives u the root bash10:03
WhyvasDev05, lookup wireless bridge10:03
IntangirDev05: so your using the linux box as a router for it? i think there is something like iptables to do something like that ,but ive never done it10:03
DeeghetalI'm going to have to get used to using the terminal for everything. ;) I had RedHat a couple years ago but forgot all of the shell commands.10:03
Intangiri just used hardware routers/ APs10:03
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Dev05Intangir, Yeah...10:04
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Phlexonancejust installed the jre and need to set the path in opera, but I have no idea were the jre installed to. where is it?10:04
Rufflesoh.. another thing.. i've got problems with firestarter10:04
Dev05Whyvas, How?10:04
Whyvasthere's an app called firestarter that MIGHT do it but i can't remember if it supports sharing over wireless10:04
Rufflesthat thingy is quite a crap!10:04
Intangircheck out iptables? and the 'route' command i think it was10:04
mc__!iptables > Dev0510:04
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Dev05Whyvas, The thing is that the machines don't see their networks.10:04
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WhyvasDev05, go to www.google.com, and type wireless bridge ubuntu then click on the search button10:05
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Ruffleswhen i start firestarter... it used to say failed to start firewall but the firewall started anyway... now it says eth1 is not ready but it's workin'10:05
Intangirubuntu is on the internet isnt it?10:05
Intangiryoull proabbly have to set the wireless part to set its own IP, and set some settings10:05
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Intangirthrowing in the wireless will make the whole thing more complex ;010:05
fishyHow do you change the volume of the input levels?10:05
RufflesIntangir, man.. linux without internet is like a ferrari without gasoline10:05
SilentJHello10:05
Intangirprobably easier to just go buy a router with ethernet and wireless10:05
bytefoobah i will just reinstall ubuntu i guess :/10:05
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WhyvasDev05, what kind of internet connection are you on? pppoe?10:06
Dev05Whyvas, eth.10:06
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SilentJI am having a problem with my internet and ubuntu10:06
IntangirRuffles: ya that would be lame10:06
Dev05Whyvas, Direct to the Modem.10:06
esters!iptables10:06
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)10:06
Rufflesmmmmm10:06
Rufflesshorewall i'll try that out10:06
sundinHi. im trying to download DCgui. but i see that it depends on many many other files. i dl from debians package site. hopw can i install all thoose packages without doing it by hand?10:06
IntangirDev05: just go buy a wireless router, with a some ehternet ports too, thats the easiest way, they are only like 30 bucks10:06
Intangirthen you wont have to have the ubuntu box on to use the wireless windows box10:07
SilentJDoes anyone know if there is a way to update from 5.10 to 6.6 with the Live Desktop CD --- Stupid me I downloaded the Desktop CD when I ment to download the install CD...10:07
IntangirSilentJ: i dont think so.. but if you have 5.10 installed already10:08
RufflesSilencer, apt-get dist-upgrade is the best10:08
Intangiryou dont need a CD at all10:08
fishyHow do you change input volume in Ubuntu?10:08
Intangiri think you have to update your apt-get sources.list first though dont you?10:08
Dev05Intangir, I'd be glad if you could convince my father to do so :). He doesn't like Linux and he won't buy a router just for that... :(10:08
Cntryboygnomefreak: I downloaded gyach-enhanced and typed sudo tar -xjf gyach-enhanced_pyvoice-binary-1.0.7-i586.tar.bz2, but nothing is happening, am I doing this right?10:08
WhyvasDev05, how old are you?10:08
Dev05Whyvas, 15.10:08
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IntangirDev05: how do you get onto the internet with the windows machine?10:08
RufflesDev05, my father complains about my linux for a long time10:08
mc__Dev05, save your pocket money10:08
DabainThis is strange10:08
RufflesDev05, they will never change lol10:08
Dabainglxinfo gives error10:08
SilentJwell I wanted to download Daper ya know so I downloaded it and it was the live CD which dosent work AT ALL on my computer10:09
gnomefreakCntryboy: tar jxzf iirc10:09
Rufflesmicrosoft has made their users so stupid10:09
DabainI get nvidia log when restarting X10:09
Cntryboywhat is iirc?10:09
DabainHelP10:09
mc__Ruffles, and ubuntu is trying to do the same10:09
SilentJIs DAper that much different than Breasy?10:09
Rufflesmc__, no way10:09
Dabainubotu, iirc10:09
ubotuI know nothing about iirc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:09
sundinhttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/dcgui <--- i dl dcgui from there and do you see all the the packages it depends on? i feel really dumb cause im sitting and installing em by hand :) thanks if you can give me a hint10:09
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Intangiriirc = if i recall corectly10:09
Intangirdont type that10:09
SilentJI have read some much about Daper that I was like Ok I HAVE to get it haha  im dying to see it10:09
mc__Ruffles, if you make something easy it users tend to be less smart10:09
SilentJlol10:09
Dabainubotu, iirc is If I Recall Correctly or If I Recollect Correctly10:09
gnomefreakiirc = if i remember correctly Cntryboy10:10
Wodgerless tenical not less smart10:10
Cntryboyk10:10
Cntryboylol10:10
Dev05Intangir, I would normally start windows xp and give connectivity to the laptop. But now I got dual-boot with Ubuntu.10:10
Dabainubotu, iirc is also if I remember correctly10:10
Intangiroh..10:10
Dabainubotu, iirc10:10
ubotuI know nothing about iirc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:10
Dabainubotu, You're stupid, aye?10:10
ubotuI know nothing about You're stupid, aye? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:10
Rufflesmc__, my friend has installed kubuntu 2 days ago.. so far he couldn't install a cd with programs he told me he wanted to try out.. but.. when i asked what's the files in cd like he told me they were .tar.gz10:10
mc__Wodger, less smart in technical things :)10:10
Dev05And I want Ubuntu to do the same, but I just can't get it to work.10:10
IntangirDev05: ok just check out that "iptables" "route" and first check out iwconfig to set up your wireless card10:10
Cntryboygnomefreak: conflicting errors on that10:10
Wodgerheh mc10:10
Deeghetalwhen i add a repository to my list, does it add new programs to "add / remove programs"?10:11
Ruffleshe's been trying to get it workin' for 48hr+ and he wants .exe setup.exe install.exe10:11
Intangirit can be done10:11
thoreauputicDabain: you have to be authorised to add factoids to the bot10:11
Dabainthoreauputic, Exactly :)10:11
Cntryboyanyone know correct command for tar.bz2 I tried tar -xjf10:11
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Intangirand without having to pay for any special software. but it involves like 3 different programs10:11
SilentJSo is  DApper that much better than 5.10???10:11
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Intangirinstead of 1 gui10:11
spo0fSilentJ, just point your repository (apt-config) to  dapper cd-rom and do a dist-upgrade10:11
gnomefreakCntryboy: try tar jxf10:11
Rufflesso.. windows has made him stupid and dependant of setups.exe10:11
SilentJI tried10:11
DabainX Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)10:11
SilentJdidnt work10:11
Cntryboygnomefreak: k10:11
Cntryboylet me try10:11
disposable_mikeRuffles: are you trying to install .exe on Kubuntu?10:12
RufflesCntryboy, tar -jxvf10:12
DabainWhy? --> "X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)"10:12
Wodgermodems are still very common...10:12
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Rufflesdisposable_mike, nope!10:12
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bobbywanyone know why my microphone doesn't work with an outofthebox installation of ubuntu?10:12
SilentJHow  Long does the Upgrade take? from 5.10 to 6.06??10:12
Intangiror tell your dad that you ruined your windows install, and if he wants internet again he has to buy a wiress/ethernet combo router10:12
bobbywin skype!10:12
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eulyAnybody knows, how I can tar a folder /this/is/some/folder/ without tar writing /this/is/some/ into the archive? So when I untar it into /somewhere/else I dont get the whole thing in /somewhere/else/this/is/some/folder but into /somewhere/else/folder ?10:12
PhlexonanceI need to know the path where jre is installed10:12
estersSilentJ, u need to change /etc/apt/sources.list -> go to easylinux.info and find repositories10:12
Ruffleshahahahahahahah10:12
Intangir(just disable it from grub, and restore it after he buys the router)10:12
Dabainbobbyw, did you plug it in?10:12
Wodgersome of the netgears are very easy/ with wizards and the like10:12
estersthan change them10:12
Rufflestell him microsoft has stated that windows will only connect to the net through new routers10:13
CntryboyRuffles: thx that worked, whats the differ in -xjf and -jxvf? usually for regular tar I do - or with out zxvf10:13
Dabainbobbyw, btw.  skype sucks!10:13
estersand manage apt-get update and after that apt-get dist-upgrade10:13
Wodgersave money on the power bill as well....10:13
Dev05Intangir, If I tell him he will just say "Reinstall Windows and don't bother!"10:13
thoreauputic!iirc10:13
ubotuIIRC means "if I remember correctly"10:13
thoreauputic:)10:13
bobbywyes it's plugged in10:13
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bobbywand skype is free right now10:13
Intangir!gnub10:13
bobbywand I smashed my cell phone10:13
Cntryboyruffles: I was going by the site I dl'ed this at that said -xjf lol10:13
ubotuI know nothing about gnub - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:13
bobbywand I'm broke10:13
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bobbywso i have no other choice at the moment10:13
Dabainthoreauputic, thanks .. the original was "recall" though .. iirc :-D10:13
Intangir!gnubie10:13
ubotuI know nothing about gnubie - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:13
RufflesCntryboy, well.. what i know is.. to extract .tar.gz u use -zxvf and to extract .tar.bz2 u use -jxvf10:13
Rufflesheheeh10:13
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Intangirhahahha10:13
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Dev05Intangir, But how do I make the machines see themselves, even though I've set routing up?10:14
thoreauputicDabain: whatever - I think it gets the idea across :)10:14
PhlexonanceI need to know the path where jre is installed10:14
RufflesJ (bz2)10:14
Dabainthoreauputic, Right10:14
RufflesX (extract)10:14
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Cntryboykk, so same but drop z and add j kk figured so, but that site told me wrong hehe10:14
RufflesV (verbose)10:14
Wodgerby see you mean network?10:14
RufflesF (file)10:14
Rufflesi guess that's what it means10:14
Dabainthoreauputic, remember is the most common word.10:14
Cntryboykk10:14
user-landHello, what is the recommended URL for configuring TwinView ?10:14
Wodgeror rather file share?10:14
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thoreauputicDabain: right10:14
Almindoris the pyPE package broken? (the software that is)10:15
IntangirDev05: overwireless? you have to set your wireless settings, and set the linux box to AP10:15
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fishyHow do you get a microphone working in Ubuntu?10:15
Cntryboygrrrrrrrrrrrrrr10:15
Cntryboygyach still won't run10:15
thoreauputicDabain: btw if I have any idea of Seveas's habits that factoid won't survive for long ;-)10:15
Dev05Intangir, I did, it just doesn't work :(10:15
Cntryboyeven though I seen files extracting10:15
Intangiruser-land: there is a good readme on it directly from the nvidia readme10:15
k20ImportTunerCan anybody help me get Ubuntu to detect my wireless internet?10:15
PhlexonanceI need to know the path where jre is installed10:15
Dabainthoreauputic, you happen to have an idea why "glxinfo" is broken while X shows nvidia logo on startup ... (I have to admit I have tried to install XGL)10:15
user-landintangir, where can i find that ?10:15
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Dabainthoreauputic, A pitty .. its nice to have such factoids IMHO. ;-)10:16
bobbywfishy: i'm still trying to figure that one out10:16
Dev05Intangir, Also, it is an Ad-Hoc Network. That made the difference between working and not-working on Windows...10:16
Cntryboyruffles: the site said I have to mv the gunzip tar to root file system, which I did not do in order to be root, but I thought sudo will work just the same way?10:16
Intangiruser-land: 'www.nvidia.com'10:16
Intangirhahaha ;)10:16
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thoreauputicDabain:  glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark10:16
thoreauputic:)10:16
Dabainthoreauputic, I must agree that they're not Ubuntu specific though.10:16
Cntryboyruffles: You must be the ROOT user to install these packages. The FIRST thing you need to do is move all of the .tar.bz2 packages you've just downloaded to the root of your file system by typing mv gyach*.tar.bz2 /.10:16
IntangirDev05: sorry i cant be much more help i have never had to set that up myself10:16
Deeghetalwhat does "Unable to lock the administration directory (var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" mean?10:16
IntangirDev05: my wireless computers just connect thru the wireless router i bought ;)10:17
Wodgercould you not be sudo?10:17
Dabainthoreauputic, X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)10:17
RufflesCntryboy, and what's wrong?10:17
fishybobbyw: I just have it plugged in to the "audio input" jack, shouldn't it work out of the box?10:17
IntangirDev05: tell your dad having a real firewall will protect his shitty windows box from viruses and exploits more10:17
RufflesCntryboy, to get root permissions u can either use sudo command or sudo -s10:17
DeeghetalI'm root.10:17
Dabainthoreauputic, Is there a pastebot?  In that case I can paste the full error.10:17
thoreauputicDabain: whoa10:17
CntryboyRuffles: i didn't do that, I just typed sudo tar -jxvf filename10:17
fishybobbyw: I think I just need to turn the input volume up, but I can't access that because I don't know how to.10:17
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Wodgersudo works for most ./configure make etc10:17
thoreauputic!paste10:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:17
IntangirDev05: being right off the modem means any ports he has open could potentially be exploited10:17
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PhlexonanceHow can I find out where the JRE installed to? I need the path to set it in my browser10:17
Cntryboyruffles: I did do sudo, but did I need to move it to root file system like I pasted what the help said?10:17
RufflesCntryboy, try this: sudo tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2 -C /10:18
bobbywfishy: plug it into the microphone jack10:18
RufflesCntryboy, but.. why do you have to extract it into / ????10:18
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bobbywfishy: double click the volume icon in the system tray10:18
Dev05Intangir, No, he connects through MY pc...10:18
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RufflesPhlexonance, locate *flash*.xpt10:18
Cntryboyruffles: I'm not sure what I pasted is what it said to do first, then go there and then do the tar commands10:18
Intangiruser-land: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22117410:18
fishybobbyw: I'm not in GNOME, I'm in Fluxbox. What's the command to open that dialog?10:18
Intangirdoh..10:18
Wodgerwell okay your pc when in windows then10:18
PhlexonanceRuffles: flash? i need java10:18
Cntryboyruffles: if you don't mind looking this is what im looking at http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/install.php#gyachb10:19
Rufflesok sure10:19
Cntryboyits for gyach yahoo msger with voice10:19
JDreddI'm using gdebi package installer and I'm getting a 'broken cache' error, is it possible to fix this offline?10:19
RufflesPhlexonance, oh lol10:19
Rufflespardon me10:19
Ruffleshahaha10:19
Cntryboyruffles: go down to where u c Gyach-E / pY! Voice Chat: Binary .tar.bz2 Package:10:19
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FogHemlockhello al10:19
bobbywgnome-volume-control10:19
Intangirgnome-volume-control10:19
RufflesPhlexonance, locate libjavaplugin_oji.so10:19
bobbywgnome-volume-manager10:19
Dabiantho: You got the paste?10:19
Dabianargh .. he fled!10:20
YuuKajimacan someone tell me where I can find the ubuntu patches?  (as in, the tar.bz2 file for them?)10:20
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Intangir_TomB hey dont i know you10:20
FogHemlockwhat is the difference between ubuntu xubuntu and kubuntu?10:20
PhlexonanceRuffles: didnt find anything10:20
Intangiryour in #garagegames ?10:20
djcronosHi all, does anyone here have experience with mounting SCSI Tape Libraries in Ubuntu?10:20
crimsunFogHemlock: the default desktop environment installed10:20
bobbywFogHemlock: the gui10:20
estersFogHemlock, different graphical gui10:20
DabianNoone here can help me with X problems and opengl?10:20
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Dev05FogHemlock, Xubuntu using the Xfce environment while Kubuntu uses KDE.10:20
IntangirDabian: whats what wit hit?10:21
bobbywDabian: what problem?10:21
RufflesPhlexonance, try find / -name *libjavaplugin_oji.so*10:21
FogHemlockwhen i get the free cd can i download anyone i want?10:21
RufflesCntryboy, PVT10:21
DabianI see the logo when X start, but I cannot run glxgears10:21
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DabianIt used to work.10:21
AlmindorI get distorted font in various python programs using wxWidgets (the characters are all small squares with numbers), anyone knows what might be wrong?10:21
Cntryboyruffles: PVT?10:21
YuuKajimacan someone tell me where I can find the ubuntu patches?  (as in, the tar.bz2 file for them?)10:21
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djcronosI'm trying to mount a Qualstar TLS-4480 SCSI Tape Library, but I want to make sure that Ubuntu sees it first.  What can I do to first see if Ubuntu recognizes it, and do I need to install any additional packages to get SCSI support?10:21
DabianHere is the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1887710:21
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RufflesPhlexonance, before doin' so try opening your firefox and typing about:plugins in the address bar10:21
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FlannelFogHemlock: yeah, it's easy to switch between them, or have all of them installed if you want even10:22
FogHemlockok thx alot!10:22
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FogHemlocktake care bye10:22
Dev05FogHemlock, You could download Ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop and it will add KDE.10:22
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PhlexonanceRuffles: found 2, difference is one has "ns7-gcc29" in it and the other just "ns7"10:22
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RufflesPhlexonance, use ns710:22
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PhlexonanceRuffles: and its opera ;) but opera:plugins works too, ok thx a lot10:22
EnverexErm, is Audacity supposed to look AWFUL (it looks like GTK0.1 or something) and are there any better editors?10:23
RufflesPhlexonance, ns7-gcc29 is for browsers compiled with gcc2910:23
cavedive1hello. It seems network options in dapper doesn't do wpa2, only wep.10:23
Cntryboyruffles: what is PVT?10:23
RufflesCntryboy, look..10:23
cavedive1Is there anything one can do for activating wpa2?10:23
Dabiancavedive1, you don't need wpa2.10:23
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Dev05* Tired of the command line after three days...10:23
crimsunEnverex: yes, it's supposed to look "awful".10:23
k20ImportTunerCan anybody help me configure my wireless internet for Ubuntu on my laptop??10:23
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Wodgeruse wpa110:23
Cntryboyruffles: at that site?10:23
RufflesCntryboy, u don't need to move the files into the / directory.. just try tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2 -C /10:24
Dabiancavedive1, wpa-psk is good enough for ya, just keep ESSID secret.10:24
fishyWhat's the command to open the volume control app?10:24
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Wodgerwpa is s10:24
Wodgerstrong10:24
Rufflesfishy, gnome-volume-control ?10:24
cavedive1only wep seems to be availible10:24
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Enverexcrimsun, I'm sure it didn't used to look like this unless the one in Gentoo is either newer or different....10:24
seanhHi all, trying to get a pcmcia wireless card working, lshw calls it a Texas Instruments ACX 111, the wiki says these should work out of the box. I can see and acticvate the card, but it sees no networks10:24
Cntryboyruffles what does -C / mean10:24
Dabiancavedive1, what ugly router is that?10:24
Cntryboyjs im going to paste this in paste bin really fast10:24
RufflesCntryboy, extracts the files into the place you specify10:24
user-landhow can i kill the xserver ? it restarts automatically all the time ...10:24
Rufflesit'll extract the file into /10:24
PhlexonanceRuffles: when I hit the "validate path" button it tells me its incorrect10:24
k20ImportTunerCan anybody help me get wireless internet working in Ubuntu on my laptop?10:24
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Dabianuser-land, then you know how to kill it.10:25
user-landi need to rpkg-reconfigure it.10:25
cavedive1Dabian: no in ubuntu I mean. Router has wpa2 support10:25
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cavedive1Dabian: I can only type in a wep-key.10:25
Dabianuser-land, you just don't know how to stop it from respawning! :-)10:25
Intangirseanh: did you tell it the name if the wiress.. thing?10:25
RufflesPhlexonance, maybe you're not using the correct plugin10:25
cavedive1Nothing about wpa10:25
crimsunEnverex: Gentoo may have enabled gtk2 and unicode for wxwindows2.410:25
Dabiancavedive1, you might want restricted sources enabled.10:25
user-landdabian, do you know how to do it ?10:25
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PhlexonanceRuffles: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so10:25
crimsunEnverex: (we don't, because it's utterly broken)10:25
Enverexcrimsun, Ah10:25
seanhIntangir - huh? I'm telling it to look for networks to join, but it can't see any, it lists none10:25
Dabianuser-land, if you're using gdm: sudo /etc/init.d gdm stop10:25
RufflesPhlexonance, have you created a link?10:25
cavedive1Dabian: think I have that. Do i need to install something ?10:25
Enverexcrimsun, Are there any other editors? Audacity really seems to be lacking.. in most ways, heh10:25
Intangirseanh: how do you tell it to look? i had to just type in the name of mine10:26
PhlexonanceRuffles: no10:26
Intangirsome of them dont advertise so they wont be found10:26
Dabianuser-land, if you're using gdm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:26
cavedive1I installed network.manager but I can't sem to figure out how to start it10:26
Dabiancavedive1, nas10:26
RufflesPhlexonance, you have to10:26
P3L|C4N0greetings10:26
Cntryboyruffles: do you care to look at this extracting of the files? http://pastebin.ca/100003    , it says it placed it in a certain dir, then if u look at the end I try to go there and it's not made what gives?10:26
cavedive1nas?10:26
PhlexonanceRuffles: never had to before10:26
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PhlexonanceRuffles: but otherwise never had to fill in this thing myself10:26
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RufflesPhlexonance, link that file to your opera's plugin folder10:26
gebruikerdrapper is released? sins when?10:26
Dabianhehehehheeee!10:26
RufflesCntryboy, i'll take a look10:26
seanhIntangir - in System-Administration-Networking, setup the card to use DHCP (in Properties) then activate the card, then go intoo Properties again, you should have a drop-down list of all the networks in range, but I'm getting none10:27
Cntryboyruffles: thx10:27
gebruikerdrapper is released?  when?10:27
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Dabiangebruiker, "since when" :-)10:27
Rufflesgebruiker, quite a long time ago :)10:27
Intangirseanh: your wireless AP might be set up to not send that information, mines set up to not 'advertise' it doesnt broadcast anything about itself to people trying to join10:27
Flannelgebruiker: Dapper has been released since June10:27
Dabianfirst of june or something.10:27
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Intangirseanh: thats usually a good idea10:27
gebruikerhow do I upgrade...10:27
cavedive1Seems to be network-manager that is the solution10:27
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EnverexDoes anyone know of any good sound editors?10:27
cavedive1How do i run that?10:27
gebruikerI run breezy10:27
Flannelgebruiker: gksudo update-manager10:28
gdb!upgrade10:28
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.10:28
cavedive1I did apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome10:28
seanhIntangir - no, there is definitely a network in here it should see. I just gave it the network name myself though, and it's not connecting to it10:28
Dabiangebruiker, Its on the web: http://www.ubuntulinux.org or something.10:28
Cntryboynever heard of drapper, but dapper has been out awhile10:28
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Intangirseanh: make sure you give the name, the SSID, and the password info10:28
psybapunkcan someone help me?10:28
RufflesCntryboy, u didn't seem to have typed the correct command10:28
Dabiangebruiker, listen to the link ubotu is talking about.10:28
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seanhIntangir - there's no such info, it's DHCP connect10:29
Dabian!tell gebruiker about upgrade10:29
RufflesCntryboy, u've extracted the file into your Desktop directory10:29
Intangirseanh: its wireless right?10:29
RufflesCntryboy, sudo tar -jxvf gyach-enhanced_pyvoice-binary-1.0.7-i586.tar.bz2 -C /10:29
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seanhIntangir - yes10:29
Dabianok10:29
psybapunkI have ubuntu installed on a partition of my HDD, but I have no bootloader, how do I install grub?10:29
DabianNobody can help me here.10:29
DabianGood night.10:29
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Intangirseanh: wireless need name and SSID at least to connect, and usually a password too10:29
RufflesDabian,10:29
cavedivergrub-install /dev/sd?10:29
Ruffleswhat's your problem?10:29
Flannelpsybapunk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:29
Intangirseanh: WEP password, or WPA preshared key stuff10:29
DabianRuffles, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1887710:29
Intangirseanh: i think default SSID for most networks is 610:30
CntryboyRuffles: ahh Okay, i see the dir on desktop now, so when i do tar.bz2 files do I always need to specify with -C / ? i haven't b410:30
cavediverhmm10:30
psybapunkthank you gentlemen10:30
cavediverwhere did that network-manager go?10:30
Intangirseanh: or maybe that was the channel, and ssid was the name of it.. i cant recall10:30
fishyDo simple line-in microphone work in Ubuntu?10:30
RufflesCntryboy, no man.. -C is an option.. it just lets you select where you wanna extract the files at10:30
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DeeghetalI'm trying to get the canonical repository added to synaptic but it gives me a 404 error when i refresh10:30
Intangirseanh: your card shows up the right? a wireless card? when you goto network settings?10:31
Cntryboyahh okay so If I dont use it, it will extract them do what ever dir im running command from right?10:31
seanhIntangir - the ESSID is the network name, like "my network", if the network is open, as this one is, that's all you should need. Anyway, the netowrk is advertised, so it shuold see it10:31
RufflesDabian, man i'm sorry but i don't understand what your problem is10:31
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DabianRuffles, opengl is not working10:31
FlannelDeeghetal: which url you using?10:31
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DabianRuffles, it used to work, I have nvidia gfx card.10:31
RufflesDabian, ic.. have you read the ubuntuforums ?10:31
seanhIntangir - Yeah, I can se the card, but it sees no networks10:31
Intangirseanh: could you just be too far away?10:31
thundrI need help getting my wireless going.  Can anyone help?10:31
Deeghetalhttp://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main10:31
YuuKajimaanyone able to tell me where Ubuntu's kernel patches are?  I need like, a tar.gz or a tar.bz210:31
DabianRuffles, it used to work, I followed the instructions on the wiki.10:31
seanhIntangir - I don't think so10:31
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RufflesDabian, follow all the instructions all the way over once again10:32
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DabianRuffles, I tried however, to install xgl .. I guess that spoiled it.10:32
CntryboyRuffles: am I right?10:32
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DabianRuffles, I did .. the problem is .. the logo should prove that its working .. but ..10:32
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FlannelDeeghetal: hmm, well, it exists.  You want to paste your entire sources.list?  Can you get there (http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu) in a browser?10:32
Cntryboydabian: xgl is cool, is urs working10:32
narfmasterYuuKajima, you should be able to find them at http://packages.ubuntu.com/10:32
Intangirseanh: hrm im out of ideas then, i know at my house mywireless stuff downstairs had a hard time picking up my access point until i moved it to a place where fewer walls were between us10:32
DabianRuffles, but I still get this error.10:32
Deeghetalyes i can get there from browser10:32
DabianCntryboy, I never made it work.10:32
zazeemhelp me please, i cant figure out how to install mx310 logitech mouse drivers, i followed a guide on ubuntu but the sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/19-local.rules is completely empty when i open it :(10:32
RufflesDabian, if i were you i would do the steps again10:32
Deeghetalcould it have something to do with the fact that i use x86_64?10:33
synthjethi.. I was trying for triple boot (ubuntu-1, ubuntu-2 and xp) and screwed up my grub: now ubuntu-2 doesnt boot at all, though getting mounted.. any suggestions plz?10:33
DabianRuffles, is worth a try .. thanks for the advise.10:33
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loserboyhey I somewhere that there was gonna be an irc class in this channel one day...anyone know what i'm talkin about10:33
sundinHi. ive tried installing with several commands :) im not so wise. and i cant remember them. but when i try to install dcgui i need more packages before installing. ive tried to install them. but they are just more and more after each package i install. is there anyway to install dcgui auto so it dl dependable packages on its own?10:33
RufflesDabian, you're welcome10:33
bobbywis there an easier way to install stuff like musicbrainz picard then to go through ALL the dependencies in the install file, find them, download configure, make, instal them?10:33
Cntryboydabian: you said you tried to install it , go to ubuntu-xgl if u need help with xgl stuff10:33
Intangirzazeem: thats not part of the udev stuff, the local rules file is your custom rules file10:33
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Intangirzazeem: i named mine 10-local.rules10:33
sundinbobby i was on the same q :)10:33
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Rufflessynthjet, adjust your grub optinos10:34
zazeemintangie: what does that mean? im new, how do i do it?10:34
Rufflesoptinos10:34
Rufflesoptions10:34
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Rufflesdarn!10:34
Ruffleslol10:34
sundini installed lots of dependicies. but damn someone is always wrong and cant be installed.10:34
DabianCntryboy, thanks .. right now I just trying to get OpenGL working alltogether though.10:34
Deeghetaldo you want me to paste my source list? I know some iRC's frown on pasting.10:34
zazeemintangie: so it should be blank?10:34
Intangirzazeem: are you just trying to load the driver? what happens if you modprobe the driver? does that make it work?10:34
bobbywis there an easier way to install stuff like musicbrainz picard then to go through ALL the dependencies in the install file, find them, download configure, make, instal them?10:34
zazeemmodprobe?10:34
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synthjet:) Ruffles I have been playing around with grub..10:34
Intangirzazeem: modprobe loads a driver if you can use it10:34
Flannelzazeem: er, you shouldn't need drivers.  It'll work out of the box.  For, extra buttons, you can follow this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons10:34
Cntryboydabian: oh okay10:34
zazeemintangie: is it possible to download mx310 drivers?10:34
Intangirif your on ubuntu you proabbly already have it10:35
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DabianCntryboy, my trying to install xgl seems to have ruined it.10:35
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Intangirand ya it should work out of th box10:35
zazeemintangie: it works, but it works like crap.  the side buttons dont work and in games it just plain blows10:35
sundinbbl10:35
synthjetthe prob is: Error 15 file not found or sometimes root fs doesnt get loaded during boot.. tried Gentoo's guide also.. but invain10:35
seanhAnyone know if Dapper has the open sourcde ACX1000 wireless driver included?10:35
SomethingoneHello there. I'm trying to change my scource list so I can apt get VLC following the advice on this site http://www.jigsawboys.com/2006/03/28/xvid-and-divx-on-ubuntu-linux/ But I can't save what iv'e written, as it's read only!10:35
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zazeemintangie: what is modprobe?10:35
Cntryboydabian: so ur opengl was working fine until xgl?10:35
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Intangirzazeem: it loads kernel drivers10:36
gebruike1I have two issues 1) How do i restore my root passwd I changed it to qwerty, the default root passwd is nothing.. ? 2)  VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3344 (rev 01)10:36
RufflesSomethingone, do that using root permissions10:36
zazeemintangie: how do i get it?10:36
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Flannel!paste10:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:36
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gebruike1I have two issues 1) How do i restore my root passwd I changed it to qwerty, the default root passwd is nothing.. ? 2)  VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3344 (rev 01) . lspci doesn't see my videocard... help!10:36
ubuntuhi room10:36
FlannelDeeghetal: you use that for pasting10:36
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sundindamn wastnt logged on as root bbl10:36
mortalgebruike1: you have issues?10:36
mortal;)10:36
DabianCntryboy, yeah .. not sure that ruined it though.10:36
gebruike1 mortal uhuh10:36
crimsunseanh: it has the ACX100 driver.10:36
SomethingoneKay Ruffles, but umm, how do I get into Root? I don't remember setting a root password.10:36
thundrDoes ubuntu only support WEP for wireless encryption?10:36
ubuntugebruike1, hi10:36
DabianCntryboy, could be some of the other stuff I fiddled with.10:36
crimsunseanh: doesn't appear to have ACX1000.10:36
Flannelgebruike1: er, what?  Root starts disabled yes, are you trying to reenable it?10:36
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crimsunseanh: sorry, I'm looking at Edgy10:37
DabianCntryboy, took me a while to realise why the games stopped working.10:37
FlannelSomethingone: there is no root password, there is no root account by default10:37
RufflesSomethingone, sudo -s10:37
thundrSomethingone: you use sudo10:37
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Cntryboydabian: did you try to reinstall the nvidia drivers ect.10:37
RufflesSomethingone, or.. sudo command10:37
Whyvasthundr, no, wpasupplicant10:37
ubuntugebruike1,  try this10:37
zazeemintangie: how do i get it?10:37
SomethingoneOkay10:37
gebruike1Flannel hi, no I want to disable it again, i invoked passwd and changed it.10:37
cavediveri need help getting network manager to work.10:37
Rufflesin this case: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list10:37
ubuntugebruike1,  sudo passwd root10:37
Rufflesgot it Somethingone ?10:37
crimsunseanh: yes, Dapper does, too.10:37
Flannelgebruike1: set the password to nothing (a blank)10:37
SomethingoneUmm, well I put in the run thingy sudo -s10:37
crimsunseanh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=acx.ko&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i38610:37
thundrWhyvas: where do I find that?  All I see in network settings is a wep key10:37
FlannelSomethingone: just use sudo10:37
Whyvasthundr, in the package manager10:38
FlannelSomethingone: no need for the -s10:38
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k20ImportTunerCan anybody help me get wireless internet working in Ubuntu on my laptop?10:38
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Rufflesno man!10:38
Ruffleslol10:38
synthjetRuffles/others, any lead plz? "the prob is: Error 15 file not found or sometimes root fs doesnt get loaded during boot.. tried Gentoo's grub guide also.. but invain"10:38
RufflesSomethingone, not in the run10:38
gebruike1Flannel ok, what about lspci that doesn't detect my videocard.... it just says GA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3344 (rev 01)10:38
SomethingoneKay! So where do I run sudo?10:38
cavediverI installed network-manager but It doesn't show up when I want to add it to the panel10:38
Intangirzazeem: if you dont type my name right its harder to pick out when your talking to me10:38
FlannelSomethingone: a terminal, what are you running?10:38
Intangirzazeem: you already have modprobe, you use it from the command line10:38
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gebruike1Flannel: just pressing return after invoking passwd doesn't work10:38
Rufflessynth7, r u trying to setup a bootsplash image?10:38
seanhcrimsun - okay, I got dapper installed, ACX111 wireless card, the card appears but it fails to see any networks, Any help?10:38
RufflesSomethingone, open a terminal10:38
synthjetnope.. installed the OS.. now having prob booting one of them10:39
SomethingoneUbuntu 6.06, I don't know where the terminal is. It's different to the last distro I used10:39
zazeemo sdorry10:39
RufflesSomethingone, then type: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list10:39
FlannelSomethingone: right, what command are you running?10:39
crimsunseanh: nope, I don't have that hardware. Check the wiki, mailing lists, and forum.10:39
ubuntuSomethingone,  press alt+f210:39
IntangirSomethingone: accessories->terminal ;)10:39
RufflesSomethingone, applications / accessories10:39
gebruike1Flannel: ?10:39
SomethingoneThankyou!10:39
Intangiri set a hotkey for mine to Win-T10:39
zazeemintangir: how do i make it install my mouse?10:39
RufflesIntangir, good idea dude10:39
Cntryboydabian: most games won't work if you are using xgl, but u said its not working. What X are you currently in10:40
RufflesIntangir, how do i do that?10:40
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DabianCntryboy, how do I know?10:40
CntryboyI mean they will work, but it messes with DRI10:40
tuxtuxciao10:40
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IntangirRuffles: System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts10:40
mwexgl made nothing else work with dri for me10:40
Intangirone of them is 'run a terminal'10:40
Cntryboydabian: log out and then go to session and pick the X you use b4 xgl, like for me kde10:40
RufflesIntangir, thanks bro10:40
RufflesIntangir, that's interesting :)10:40
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Intangiralso make sure you set your keyboard properties to use Windows key as Meta10:40
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Intangiror whatever10:40
OoberMickgebruike1: to start with the root account is set with a "random" password10:41
Rufflesmy keyb's ok10:41
Intangirtheres like several things you can make the win keys do10:41
Flannelgebruike1: sudo passwd -l root10:41
Intangirbut by default im not sure they send anything..10:41
ubuntucan i ask a question plz?10:41
zazeemintangir: how do i make it install my mouse?10:41
DabianCntryboy, I just asked in #ubuntu-xgl .. and they see the error quite often with 64-bit machines, it seems...10:41
mweFlannel, and undermine the idea of using sudo10:41
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Intangirzazeem: i dont know, depends on what driver the mouse needs, it shouldve worked automatically10:42
Flannelmwe: what?10:42
Cntryboydabian: okay10:42
gebruike1Flannel: what does -l do?10:42
GullstadQuit: Connection reset by beer.10:42
thundrubuntu: go ahead and ask.  There's no need to ask to ask a question.10:42
mweFlannel, nevermind. I misread10:42
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RufflesIntangir, hey man10:42
ubuntuthundr, ok, ty10:42
RufflesIntangir, i can't figure that out10:42
IntangirRuffles: which part?10:42
ubuntuhow do i update my ubuntu from 5 to 6 via net?10:42
matheushello!10:43
Flannelgebruike1: it locks the root account10:43
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Cntryboyruffles: I need libgtkhtml-2.so.0 , is it in apt-get?10:43
Intangirubuntu: try apt-get dist-upgrade10:43
Flannelubuntu: are you on 5.10 or 5.04?10:43
Intangiri think..10:43
RufflesCntryboy, i think sop10:43
ubuntu5.1010:43
mweFlannel, sudo passwd root what was jumped to my eyes, missed the -l :)10:43
Flannelubuntu: are you up to date on all your packages?10:43
matheusare there any webdeveloper here?10:43
RufflesIntangir, i can't figure out how to set the shortcut.. it ain't accepting the combination.. as soon as i press windows it deselects10:43
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Rufflesit doesn't let me put win+t10:43
thundrubuntu: You're on Breezy, so all you have to do is go to this site (let me find it)10:43
ubuntuFlannel, i did not install much , just add xfce support10:43
IntangirRuffles: goto System-Preferences->Keyboard10:44
IntangirRuffles: then layout options10:44
Flannelubuntu: but, are you up to date on your packages?10:44
Cntryboyruffles: eh it didn't work in apt-get10:44
IntangirRuffles: then select win/Alt key behavoir10:44
ubuntuFlannel,  yes10:44
IntangirRuffles: then tell it to bind meta to win keys10:44
Flannelubuntu: gksudo update-manager  there will be a box at the top asking if you want to upgrade to a new version10:44
matheusanyone know about a tableless irc channel ?10:44
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niklas_can somebody help me get direct rendering to work with Nvidia and xgl compiz?10:44
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Flannelmatheus: er?  #css10:44
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IntangirRuffles: then try the shortcuts again10:44
ubuntuFlannel,  ok ty i'll try it out10:44
Cntryboyniklas: try ubuntu-xgl10:44
Enverexhmm, shouldn't update-manager -d give me the option to upgrade to Edgy?10:45
mweniklas_, xgl caused nothing else to be able to use dri for me10:45
thundrubuntu: Go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades10:45
niklas_Cntryboy, thx10:45
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ubuntuFlannel,  it say ' your system is upto date"10:45
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WarboNvidia doesn't have DRI does it?10:45
ubuntuthundr, chking now, ty10:45
SomethingoneSo far so good, terminal/apt-get recognises the new addresses I gave it10:45
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zazeemcan some one tell me if there is a linux mouse patch that gets rid of mouse accel10:46
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Flannelubuntu: no box above it?  Alright, youll have to manually do it then.  No idea why it doesnt work half the time.  Use the link a few ago that thundr gave10:46
Warbozazeem: Surely you could just turn it down?10:46
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Intangirubuntu: goto /etc/apt/sources.list, open it up, change anywhere you see 'breezy' to 'dapper'10:46
Intangirubuntu: then do 'apt-get update'10:46
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Intangirubuntu: then 'apt-get dist-upgrade'10:46
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thundrFlannel: I just did the update-manager today from breezy and you have to enable the breezy-updates repository before you get the newest version of it10:47
ubuntuIntangir,  ok ty10:47
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ciplogicI get an error on xserver-xorg: "missing fixed font" what I should do?10:47
zazeemWarbo: no then the mouse hardly moves, i need it gone in games. There is no available logitech driver programs for linux for mx mice'?10:47
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Flannelthundr: ah, breezy updates.  I say, It's been nagging me whenever I turn on my GUI, but no one else ever seems to have it work ;)10:47
ciplogicI do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:47
ciplogicbut nothing10:47
SomethingoneIntangir: When you say change any instance of breezy to dapper, would it also apply to this? http://www.jigsawboys.com/2006/03/28/xvid-and-divx-on-ubuntu-linux/10:48
Warbozazeem: Usually the drivers just deal with really low-level stuff, and the settings aree more general for any pointing device10:48
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CntryboyAnyone know what the command is to see if I have Gtk-2 installed10:48
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FlannelSomethingone: yes. "breezy universe" gets changed to "dapper universe"10:48
Cntryboybesides going to adept10:48
thundrIntangir: the command the official update pages gives is sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade10:48
zazeemWarbo: well in game when i use my moue its way faster for some reason. I have smooth mouse and accel of in game as well10:48
Warbozazeem: Although I can't think of which options you would need to change though (the mouse sections of my X config are usually the only bits which require no tweaking :) )10:48
Intangirubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades10:49
mweCntryboy, dpkg -l|grep libgtk and look for it10:49
syndicate47when i run "apt-get source libtunepimp" it complains "E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde-latest_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)". can anyone help?10:49
Intangirubuntu: you might want to read that, it says nearly the same thing but stresses to type it right or you will hose your system10:49
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ubuntuIntangir, ty10:49
ciplogicsomeone may help to fix xserver start?10:49
Intangirubuntu: basically you just have to be root10:49
Intangirubuntu: and dont do dist-upgrade unless update for sure works10:49
ciplogicIt brokes when I do a dist-upgrade10:49
ubuntuIs it worth it?10:49
Intangirubuntu: i like it10:49
Cntryboymwe: did you mistype that command?10:49
ubuntuanything new in 6 or is it same?10:49
thundrUbuntu: I like it too10:49
ubuntuok10:49
Intangirubuntu: i never used 5 so i wouldnt know10:49
zazeemWarbo: for one my mouse gos back on we pages when i scroll my wheel up fast, and forward when i scroll the wheel down. Should be my side buttons which dont work :/10:50
Intangiri used debian, and the beta of 6 and loved ubuntu alot ;)10:50
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thundrubuntu: the add/remove programs is much better10:50
mweCntryboy, no. dpkg -l lists all installed packages. grep libgtk prints just lines containing libgtk10:50
Flannelzazeem: this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons10:50
ubuntuyes i liked ubuntu and slackware10:50
ubuntuboth r nice OS10:50
mweCntryboy, it should be libgtk+ somethin iirc10:50
zazeemthnx10:50
Intangirubuntu: i havent tried slackware for yeears, i didnt like ti then10:50
Intangiri hated mandrake..10:50
ciplogicsomeone may say how to reconfigure x11 fonts?10:50
SomethingoneToo bad the VLC thing is an .au address. I'd prefer .co.uk or at least .ie or .be10:50
Intangirit was buggy right from the start..10:51
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SGLHello10:51
Warbozazeem: The wheel is controlled with a "Z-axis" section of the config I think (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) and it is usually buttons 4 and 5 (up and down)10:51
thundrIntangir: I tried slax, it's not bad.10:51
Intangirdebian was great, but not as friendly as ubuntu10:51
SGLHow can I open a .zip archive as the root??10:51
Intangirgentoo was a huge pain in the ass10:51
FlannelSomethingone: those are just the universe repository.  That page is poor, it should tell you to just add universe.10:51
ubuntuUbuntu is like walk in the park10:51
zazeemWarbo: i c10:51
ubuntuit installed faster then winblows10:51
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FlannelSomethingone: those lines should already be in your sources.list, waiting to be uncommented10:51
Cntryboymwe: I have several listings10:51
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Cntryboymwe:10:51
Intangirubuntu = user friendly ;) its what an OS should be, the computer isnt for setting up the OS10:51
CntryboyCommon files for the GTK+ library10:51
Cntryboyii  libgtk2.0-0                            2.8.18-0ubuntu210:51
Intangirthats supposed to be easy ;)10:51
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Intangirwith ubuntu IT IS :)10:51
Cntryboyblah humbug10:51
mweCntryboy, good you have it10:52
WarboIntangir: I like Debian, mainly since there is no "trivial" seperation of the repositories like main/universe in Ubuntu, but when I screw up my Debian system (which is a lot) it takes longer to rebuild then Ubuntu10:52
Cntryboymwe: but I still get this error trying to run gyach..   gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkhtml-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:52
FlannelSomethingone: you can follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories10:52
ubuntui have never used debian10:52
SomethingoneI liked arklinux, nicer than ret hat (but red hat is what you use in a CCNA, so no choices there), but it was buggy. ACPI didn't work of all things! Ubuntu works. Too bad I got a couple of win32 apps for doing circuit diagrams.10:52
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iradioubuntu is crashing on bootup --- gives a glibc error when loading the Enterprise Volume Management System. How can I fix?10:52
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polpakSomethingone: tried them with wine?10:53
mweCntryboy, that's some other library, see the 'html' in the name?10:53
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ciplogiciradio: rare people help you here, they mostly enjoy to praise their desktop at home ;)10:53
SomethingoneIv'e never used wine10:53
Warboiradio: Do you need EVMS? You may change the links in /etc/rcX.d from S to K10:53
IntangirWarbo: ya its weird to have them seperate isnt it, i mean everyone just enables them all ;), but at least from aptitude you can see which ones are from the 'official' repos, i tend to go with the ones with the ubuntu icon of authentisitah! :)10:53
Somethingonebut they're simple enough programs. It might work.10:53
mrcoyoteloool trop tordu  doom3 tourne po sur xgl10:53
ubuntuwell ty guys , so much10:53
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thundrIntangir: My dad actually installed it by himself and he didn't even wipe the whole drive.  He usually only uses the computer for freecell.  Everything was intact when I checked it the next day.  I was impressed.10:53
ubuntutc and god bless all10:53
SomethingoneNo directx or .net or c~ bollocks10:53
Intangiri mean from synaptic10:53
mweCntryboy, apt-cache search gtkhtml maybe? did you install your program with apt?10:53
thundrgood luck, ubuntu10:53
comtechWarbo, yes you need evms10:53
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iradioWarbo: EVMS is installed...and crashing on bootup. Are you suggesting I just don't load it?10:54
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polpakSomethingone: www.winehq.org and they have a repository for getting the most recent versions10:54
ubuntuthundr, ty, i need it :)10:54
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Intangirthundr: ya ;) ubuntu is the only one that a newb can easily install10:54
ubuntuwell ciao10:54
WarboIntangir: Multiverse should stay seperate, but Universe seems a bit silly. It is so Ubuntu can offer commercial support better, by focusing on main, but that doesn't interest me10:54
Intangirthundr: although sometimes it installed grub on the wrong spot .. ;(10:54
thundrAs long as it works, Intangir10:54
Warboiradio: Changing the S to a K will stop it loading10:54
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SomethingoneUbuntu isint the only 'newb' distro. Ultimate Boot CD is pretty awesome10:54
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Intangirwhen you have multiple drives, and boot from the 2nd, it installed grub on the first anyway10:55
SomethingoneIt comes with a slackware LOAF/CD. But Slackware is evil10:55
Enverexhmm, shouldn't update-manager -d give me the option to upgrade to Edgy? (devel)10:55
Intangirfortunately i had grub installed on the first from gentoo, but it was using the gentoo partitions grub.conf instead of ubuntus..10:55
Intangirwas a pain..10:55
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Intangirhappened to a friend too with the same weird setup10:55
Cntryboymwe: doing what you said came up with several listings.. but if I apt-cache search gtkhtml-2 starting with the file I need it doesn't list it10:55
iradioWarbo: I'm looking in rc2.d and I am not finding a file which obviously loads evms....10:55
ciplogicEnverex: last update doesn't start your x server10:55
SomethingoneGRUB was awesome right up the point I lost my MBR10:55
ciplogicI'm on it :)10:55
sebsebsebHi my package manager in Ubuntu has screwed up and that.  I carn't just install any packages that way.  it won't download anything at all10:55
WarboSomethingone: Slackware has a pretty basic package management system, but everyone builds from source anyway. And Slasckware isn't even designed for that like Gentoo is10:55
Enverexciplogic, Erm? I'm already in X10:56
ciplogicEnverex: are you on edgy?10:56
sebsebsebin Dapper by the way10:56
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SomethingoneSlackware is too complicated for everyday use. I don't want to have to think just at the login screen10:56
mweCntryboy, apt-cache search -n libgtkhtml maybe. but I'm just guessing. how did you install the broken program?10:56
ciplogicEnverex: I really don't know why it said after the last update that X server cannot find the font: "fixed"10:56
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sebsebsebSlackware is not complacated for people that know what there doing with it10:56
Enverexciplogic, No, hence why I assumed that would update it TO Edgy (although I think I may be misunderstanding that)10:56
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Intangirsebsebseb: are you root?10:56
Enverexciplogic, Erm, I think you're confusing me with someone else10:57
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Intangirsebsebseb: which package manager, there are like .. 410:57
Cntryboymwe: it was gyach binary10:57
iradioWarbo: what IS the enterprise volume management system anyway and was it installed by default?10:57
SomethingoneYeah, but Assembly is simple if you know how to use it!10:57
Warboiradio: I can't seem to find one in there either :)10:57
ciplogicEnverex: why?10:57
mweCntryboy, what's that?10:57
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ciplogicEnverex: why I confuse you?10:57
iradioWarbo: I found it in rsS.d.10:57
Enverexciplogic, erm, I never mentioned any fonts or anything10:57
Cntryboyfor yahoo voice10:57
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iradioWarbo: sorry that's rcS.d10:57
sebsebsebSymaptic and yes with root of course10:57
Warboiradio: It is installed by default. I think it is a nicer way of LVM and fsck and stuff at boot10:57
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SomethingoneHey, is it possible for me to use ZFS on ubuntu? http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/10:58
Togeim looking for a program like gimp, without layers (only one layer, simple)10:58
Togedo you know one?10:58
Intangirsebsebseb: how did that happen? did you mess with any of it?10:58
ciplogicEnverex: the easiest update: change in /etc/apt/sources.list the word: dapper with edgy. Then you should do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:58
WarboToge: Oooo, that sounds awful10:58
Intangirsebsebseb: what happens when you try to download?10:58
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iradiohow do I spoof a MAC address?10:58
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mweCntryboy, I see. you could install apt-file and sudo apt-file update; sudo apt-file search libgtkhtml-2.so.010:59
Intangiriradio: umm. why?10:59
sebsebsebIntangir:  I think I also got multiple sources.lst files.  and in the past I deleted a respority or two by mistake I think10:59
Enverexciplogic, thanks10:59
TogeWarbo, i want paint, but better10:59
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uniqiradio: use 'macchanger'10:59
ciplogicEnverex: anyway take care, and make a backup system to do that10:59
mweCntryboy, that should find the package if it exists10:59
sebsebsebintangir:  when I try to download I get the you are downloading window thing.  ,but it's empty.10:59
Intangirsebsebseb: woops..10:59
Togebrush, pencil... without layers..10:59
WarboToge: Krita is supposed to be good, but I haven't tried it10:59
ciplogicEnverex: the updates need to be polished a bit :)10:59
Togeok, Im trying it10:59
SomethingoneSweet! I got VLC running, and it's connected to my fileserver. Tonight is star trek night!10:59
aeQu`does anyone has experience with installing dapper on a acer laptop 1692? Or does dapper supports notebooks better(in general?)10:59
Intangirsebsebseb: maybe you should have someone send you a good source.list10:59
Enverexciplogic, Meh, I used Gentoo on this machine for 4 years, I'm used to things breaking all the time10:59
threei used krita and its pretty cool10:59
Intangirand then update/refresh after10:59
Intangirsources.list rather..11:00
Warbothree: Does it use layers?11:00
sebsebsebIntangir:  I got frustrated and deleted all of my resporities in Smaptic,  but I was trying to install Azureus, and that puts the multiverse one there for me anyway when it's not enabled11:00
MenZaWhat's the command to check your kernel version?11:00
mweMenZa, uname -a11:00
Warbouname -r11:00
ciplogicEnverex: whelcome to Ubuntu :)11:00
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threewarbo: i believe it does, i used it to erase to transparency, after i screwed up gimp11:00
mweMenZa, uname -a will print the whole name and version. uname -r only the version11:00
ciplogicEnverex: if you want to compile some packages (as you do in Gentoo) you may do: apt-get source packagename11:01
Warbothree: Then it has gone up in my opinions, but probably not in Toge's :)11:01
mikearthurAnyone here know about installing on a Apple G3?11:01
ciplogicEnverex: and in the current folder it will appear the source which you may compile any time11:01
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ciplogicmikearthur: what is the problem on Apple G3?11:01
mikearthurapparently you need to do something special with partitioning11:01
Tommy2k4`i wanna shrink /home and make / bigger but /home is at the end of the drive on a logical partition with swap between it and / so is that impossible11:02
Wodgeryes11:02
Intangirsebsebseb: use this: http://intangir.soulfire.cc/sources.list11:02
ciplogicmikearthur: I have an iMac with a 300 MHz CPU (with G3) and Ubuntu installs successfully11:02
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Wodgerfirst 8gb but thats more macosx11:02
Intangirsebsebseb: put that in /etc/apt/11:02
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pantaloonhey this might seem really stupid, but i'm trying to get netscape 4.8 to work, and the netscape executable won't run11:02
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pantaloonusing dapper here11:02
mweTommy2k4`, that's the main reason I use only one partition besides the swap :)11:02
Intangirpantaloon: why netscape?11:03
Intangireew..11:03
Warbomikearthur: Does it have "old world" firmware? I know there is a special Wiki page for that, since it is tricky11:03
Enverexciplogic, I know, heh, but if I compile from source I prefer to download from the programs site and do it manually11:03
Intangirhaha ;)11:03
Wodgerif its not blue and white the g3 will be old school11:03
lab-linux-brasilHi there... Is there anyone may help me.. The gnome freezes at loading time..11:03
mikearthurWarbo: its grabe and white11:03
mikearthurgrape11:03
pantaloonneed it to run business software...i can't load ie in wine can i?11:03
mikearthurseems to boot fine from CD though11:03
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sebsebsebIntangir:  ok thanks11:03
Intangirsebsebseb: did it work?11:03
sebsebsebjust about to do it.11:03
Wodgermike then you don't need to fiddle with pationing11:03
sebsebseband uhmmmm11:03
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Intangirbtw i put the wine repo in there too so you can get the newest version of wine easy ;)11:04
mwepantaloon, you can. ies4linux makes it easy to install ie in wine11:04
Wodgeras its new school11:04
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sebsebsebwill it let me just put it in there.  or will it give me bul shit about file permissions11:04
mikearthurWodger: apparently there is some wierd hardware glitch with old G3ws11:04
mikearthurG3s11:04
Intangirsebsebseb: did you completely delete your old one?11:04
Wodgerwhat speed11:04
Intangirsebsebseb: if its still there youll have to be root to edit it11:04
mwepantaloon, I need IE for my web bank11:04
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mikearthur300Mhz11:04
sebsebsebi'll sort that lot out now11:04
Intangirgksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:04
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Wodgerahh yes11:04
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sundinplease i've been sitting all day. i cant write everything i tried. but gooood. i need help with thoose dependencies.11:05
SilentJ_Where can I get a copy of Xover Office? That works well with Ubuntu?11:05
mikearthurbuy it SilentJ11:05
ciplogicmikearthur: probably is a system issue!? You have safety settings at boot time11:05
sundini installed every lib in the updater and everything but it wont install.11:05
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arnduckyI haven't upgraded Dapper since before it went 'stable' -- apt-get dist-upgrade won't break anything will it?11:05
sebsebsebIntangir:  i'll just edit the file and do it that way with the command that's easier I guess11:05
Warbocodeweavers make Xover office11:05
SilentJ_haha11:05
mikearthurciplogic: how do you mean system issue?11:05
ciplogicmiekarthur:Press F1-F6 to see them11:05
thundrHow do I use wpa_supplicant?11:05
mwearnducky, no11:05
sundinand it still says that pyhon 2.3 isnt satisfieing11:05
Intangirsebsebseb: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:05
mikearthurciplogic: what?11:05
SilentJ_Why would I wanna spend money on it?!11:05
SilentJ_haha11:05
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mwearnducky, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should bring you up to date11:05
ciplogicmikearthur: probably your power management, etc. is not supported by dapper11:05
Intangirsebsebseb: then dump in that text from the link i sent you11:05
sundinsudo...11:05
sundinbrb try one thing11:06
WarboSilentJ_: This is not the place to ask for warez11:06
Wodgermike yes that model didn't like macosx11:06
pantaloonmwe, thanks :) do i download off their website or can i apt-get?11:06
Wodgeror the 1st edtion11:06
arnduckymwe I have a root account,  and I used the ';' to chain those commands but thanks anyhow11:06
SilentJ_i didnt ask for anything just asked if ther ewas a place I can get it11:06
Wodgerbut if the live cd worked11:06
arnducky;-)11:06
sebsebsebIntangir:  just having a look at your file there.  you got Dapper beta?11:06
sundinwhats the url to Ubuntu package site?11:06
IntangirSilentJ_: just use wine11:06
ciplogicmikearthur: I have problems with Dapper with a VIA mainboard, but that behaviour doesn't match on all computers I've seen Ubuntu11:06
Cntryboyokay back11:06
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mikearthurSilentJ_: their website11:06
mwepantaloon, you need to dl the script from the site11:06
Wodgerthen ubuntu should be fine11:06
Intangirsebsebseb: ya, it it still saying beta in there? i thought i fixed all that11:06
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SilentJ_Hey, is DApper much better than 5.10?11:07
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Warbosundin: archive.ubuntu.com is where they are stored. You can search them at packages.ubuntu.com11:07
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sebsebsebIntangir:  yep it's still saying beta.11:07
Intangiroh its not using that11:07
Cntryboymwe: if I apt-cache search libgtkhtml-2.so.0 and it comes back with natta, that means I dont have it right?11:07
mwepantaloon, it will use the wine you already have though11:07
Intangirthats commented out11:07
mikearthurWodger: its 1st edition, the Live CD doesn't work, I'm using breezy and then dist-upgrading to dapper11:07
sebsebseboh ok11:07
ciplogicSilentJ: is more polished and has updated packages, recommended to do the step11:07
sundinthanks warbo. finnally a decent human being :)11:07
mweCntryboy, no11:07
Intangirsebsebseb:  you dont need the stuff with # in front of it11:07
EnverexROFL. "Need to get 814MB of archives. After unpacking 191MB of additional disk space will be used" What the hell is that? Anti-compression?11:07
SilentJ_How long does it take?11:07
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Intangirsebsebseb: but its easier to just copy/paste ;)11:07
comtechhi, I'm running dapper on a p4 1.8/512 system and xorg is using like 15-25% of the cpu whenever I'm doing anything (bittorrent, firefox, synaptic, etc).. I've checked the HD out with smartmontools and it looks to be fine, any advice on speeding this up? my system is hitting 5.00 load running like 5 bittorrents11:07
sebsebsebyep11:07
SilentJ_To upgrade from 5.10?11:07
Cntryboymwe: no what11:07
mweCntryboy, it means there is no package by that name. use apt-file search instead11:07
Warbosundin: <beep beep> I am a robot <end communication>11:07
Intangirsebsebseb: probably about 2 hours11:07
_magnus_anyone here successfully install OpenFOAM on ubuntu 64 bit?11:07
mikearthurEnverex: some stuff will be getting overwritten, remember :)11:08
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sebsebsebwhat's probabnly about two hours?11:08
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Wodgerwell mike the partioning is  regarding old world macs11:08
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Intangirsebsebseb: oops mistell11:08
sundinwarbo to bad. i would get my gf to give you a hand sometime11:08
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mjrEnverex, upgrades replace old files also, recall11:08
IntangirSilentJ_: probably about 2 hours11:08
mweCntryboy, install apt-file. the sudo apt-file update and apt-file search the file11:08
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Cntryboyapt-file said no comand found11:08
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mweCntryboy, read11:08
Subliminalwhat is the utility to create a .deb from makefiles and source?11:08
Wodgerthe 1st edition blue and white seem to not work well in osx11:08
mweCntryboy, I said install apt-file11:08
Warbo!checkinstall11:08
Cntryboymwe: you lost me on install apt-file11:08
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.11:08
thundrEnverex: It replaces the old fies, so it's just saying that it's 190-some MB larger than Breezy11:08
Subliminalcheers11:08
ciplogicSilentJ_: depends of Internet Connection, RAM and CPU mostly  :)11:09
sundinAnyone knows a easy way to install all dependencies to a file? i tried all day11:09
mweCntryboy, sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update11:09
ciplogicAt least an hour11:09
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bytefoo_magnus_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15629811:09
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jribsundin: what are you trying to install?11:09
EnverexEep, why would upgrading to edgy remove some programs? (that I installed, i.e. not deps or something)11:09
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_magnus_bytefoo im the bottom post in that thread :P11:09
bytefooo :D11:09
sundinjrib dcgui. i installed and installed dependencies all day.11:09
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Warbosundin: If you install a .deb then you can apt-get -f install to fix broken packages (obviously, if you made the package yourself you would have to set the dependencies right)11:09
_magnus_yeah, i just posted on the OpenFOAM boards too, we'll see how that goes11:09
Enverex(i.e. Mondo, dvdrip, Gnomemud, etc)11:09
_magnus_not sure how active they are11:09
heatxsinksorry to ask again, but does anyone in here know which runlevel I can set my ubuntu installation such that it doesn't boot into gdm but terminal mode?11:09
sundinbut it wont start installing cause its always a new freakin depend11:09
jrib!info dcgui11:10
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stefgEnverex: because you ignored the warning that edgy is a dev-version which will break your system11:10
ubotudcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.80-4 (dapper), package size 433 kB, installed size 1292 kB11:10
Cntryboytoo much scroll for my slowww dialup today11:10
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sundin-f...11:10
mweEnverex, edgy is pre-alfa isn't it? that means probably broken11:10
dli_heatxsink, ou can do it manually11:10
wildmanCntryboy, this is a very active channel :)11:10
jribsundin: you are using ubuntu repositories for it?11:10
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sundinjrib brb11:10
Cntryboymwe: I did that and its asking me to download apt-file libapt-pkg-perl libconfigfile-perl11:10
Enverexstefg, It's only two programs, but it's more a wonder why it wants to remove them, heh11:10
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Warbosundin: -f = fix11:10
dli_heatxsink, forexample, removing the sym link of gdm in /etc/rc3.d/11:10
mweCntryboy, go ahead and accept11:10
mikearthurEnverex: trust me, you don't want to move to edgy unless you are a dev11:10
sundinwarbo it says it cant find the package.11:10
thundrNot yet, anyway11:10
Cntryboymwe: what am I getting though11:10
sundinand i know its there.11:10
CntryboyI mean is it for the file I need?11:11
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bytefoo_magnus_, if you have those libraries on your box (i dunno if you do), you could just symlink to wherever it is looking for11:11
mweCntryboy, those are packages that apt-file depends on11:11
Enverexmikearthur, yeah, just changed my sources list back :P11:11
bytefooi have a feeling it is something to do with the fact ur running 64 bit :X11:11
Coffeegrindshey does anyone know of a Joystick=mouse type app?11:11
bytefooi don't know about openfoam tho :/11:11
Coffeegrindslike joymouse for w3211:12
Cntryboymwe: oh and apt-file searches for files right11:12
WarboCoffeegrinds: Use a mouse as a joystick?11:12
mikearthurCoffeegrinds: you don't need one, you can use the joystick as an input just using xorg.conf11:12
seanhIf anyone else comes with problems with ACX111 wireless card, they should consult this wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111 and this bug report: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/3076611:12
farousanyone know if there is an equivalent to unison that do a better job and i already know and use rsync11:12
mweCntryboy, right. it shows what package contains a given file11:12
Coffeegrindsooh11:12
seanhalthough strangely I only had to do one line of that wiki solution, editing modprobe.d, and it worked, I ignored the rest11:12
goonieswhats the latest version of xchat available for ubuntu11:12
sebsebsebIntangir:  Oh I see your from us so you get us.ubuntu blah blah.  and I am from gb so I get gb.ubuntu blah blah.  i'll replace those us with gb and try and download Azureus again11:12
ciplogicEnverex: do you know how to setup the X server to work?11:12
WarboCoffeegrinds: Oh, that way around :) I was going to say, mice make AWFUL joysticks11:12
sundinhmm i finally made progress :) ill take advantage of it. thanks warbo and jrib11:12
seanhIs gthere some way to tell ubotu about this? Would have saved me time11:12
mikearthurCoffeegrinds: apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-joystick11:12
Warbo!info xchat11:13
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB11:13
wildmangoonies, 2.6.1 here (dapper x86_64)11:13
Cntryboymwe: okay well it was almost done and it's asking me to do this.. Put CDROM labeled [Ubuntu_6.06__Dapper_Drake__-_Release_i386_(20060531)]  in the cdrom device11:13
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Deeghetalthis is embarrasing to ask but how do i navigate to the tmp directory from the default directory in terminal? :D11:13
Intangirsebsebseb: good luck :)11:13
gooniesok11:13
mweCntryboy, huh?11:13
gooniessame thing i got =)11:13
_magnus_bytefoo, yes, that is what i did previously, i edited the file to show it where everything was located, which worked, but something else went sour, something to do with nsd and i could not figure it out, i blamed it on it not recognizing my architecture properly and not finding the right files and started reinstalling it from scratch again11:13
ardchoilleDeeghetal: cd /tmp11:13
mweCntryboy, your sources.list is broken11:13
Enverexciplogic, Yeah, why?11:13
Cntryboymwe: dunno thats what it's asking11:13
Intangir!info irssi11:13
ubotuirssi: terminal based IRC client. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 989 kB, installed size 2764 kB11:13
Warbo!cli > Deeghetal11:13
Deeghetalthanks11:13
Intangirirssi rules btw11:13
Intangirim using it now11:13
mweCntryboy, is this the same box your in this chat room with?11:13
Deeghetal!cli ?11:13
ubotuI know nothing about cli ? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:13
Cntryboyyes11:13
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goonieswildman, latest version available at xchat.org is 2.6.611:13
WarboShould give a link to useful commands11:14
Warbo(like cd)11:14
Coffeegrindsmikearthur: thanks11:14
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CntryboyI hate problems.. all I need is that one file lol11:14
mikearthurCoffeegrinds: np11:14
mweCntryboy, please go to paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list and tell me when you have11:14
Cntryboybut I don't know how to get it11:14
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ardchoilleWarbo: Excellent idea, that11:14
wildmangoonies, but someone has to package it for the version of the OS you are using to have it available... unless you want to compile yourself11:14
mweCntryboy, you need to fix your /etc/apt/sources.list11:14
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goonieswhy is ubuntu out of date =\11:14
gooniesdont the ubuntu team take care of that wildman?11:14
Intangirmwe: what happened to his sources.list?11:14
Intangirwhats with everyones sources getting messed up?11:14
mwegoonies, out of date?11:15
sundincan i use sudo apt-get install (name of package) just llike that?11:15
stefg!easysource > Cntryboy11:15
Warbogoonies: Because using the very latest version of something means you are giving up testing and security. Like Gentoo :)11:15
wildmangoonies, in practice is impossible (and even non desirable) to be always running after latest versions of software...11:15
_Spire_sundin: yup11:15
mwegoonies, well program versions freeze at the release date11:15
sundindamn i would need a real tutorial :)11:15
_Spire_Warbo: :P11:15
wildmangoonies, think on testing alone... software is a very dynamic thing.11:15
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sundincause everytime i write it like that it says it cant be find11:15
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wheelchairLo there. Following the instructions here http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb for dapper (6.06) I downloaded and I think Synaptic installed wine. But where is it? I can't find the program11:15
gooniesi c11:15
mweIntangir, probably just the cd line that isn't commented out11:15
jribsundin: you need universe for dcgui11:15
_Spire_sundin: hat package are you trying to install?11:15
_Spire_*what11:15
ProN00bwildman, but it certainly is desirable to always run the latest release versions of software that has a thrusted management11:15
wildmangoonies, they do AFAIK, however, for latest versions (a.k.a. Ubuntu 6.10 now)11:16
Intangirwheelchair: you run it from command line11:16
Cntryboymwe: I think I know why I got that error, source.list i've added deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted11:16
Intangirwheelchair: winecfg to config11:16
sundinspire its for dapper it says.11:16
Warbosundin: "apt-cache search package" will give you possible package names (aor use !synaptic or aptitude)11:16
Cntryboywme: want me to take that line out?11:16
_Spire_wheelchair: go to the command line - type winecfg11:16
mweCntryboy, yes11:16
Intangirwheelchair: and wine whatever .exe to run11:16
wildmanProN00b, yes, like the kernel :)11:16
jribsundin: have you enabled the universe repository?11:16
mweCntryboy, can you paste it like I asked you to? at paste.ubuntu-nl.org so I can see?11:16
sundinhmm11:16
ProN00bwildman, no, i mean more like everything else11:16
sundinjrib please enlighten me if you would :)11:16
Cntryboyk11:16
jrib!universe > sundin11:16
Cntryboyi have 2.1KB dialup takes me awhile11:16
Cntryboyjs11:16
sebsebsebIntangir:  time to try and install Azureus again and hopefullyt11:17
wheelchairAhh good! Wine's come up. Thankyou again!11:17
Cntryboyim going to paste it at pastebin.ca11:17
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Intangirsebsebseb: update first11:17
mweCntryboy, sure11:17
sundin!universe11:17
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:17
wildmanProN00b, goonies: let's face it: unless we go a Gentoo-like way, we're 'trapped' to what maintainers think it's the best for us... or we compile ourselves.11:17
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Intangirsebsebseb: hit the refresh or update or whatever11:17
Intangirsebsebseb: or goto command line and type apt-get update11:17
sundin"jrib "event not found"11:17
gooniesi actually was on gentoo b4 ubuntu11:17
_magnus_wildman - what about testing and unstable...11:17
mcphailwildman: gentoo users are trapped compiling with gcc3.411:17
wildmanProN00b, goonies: my affirmation above applies to every distribution out there, not only Ubuntu :)11:17
Cntryboyhttp://pastebin.ca/10011911:17
sebsebsebIntangir:  ok command line11:17
WarboProN00b: Try complaining in #ubuntu-motu :)11:17
jribsundin: read the links ubotu said, don't actually type !universe in your terminal :)11:17
Cntryboymwe:^^11:17
Coffeegrindsmikearthur: I'm back .. you wou;dn't have a clue as to how to configue this would ya?11:18
wildman_magnus_, not reliable enough for "production use" ?11:18
Intangirsebsebseb: on synaptic i think there is a refresh button or something11:18
sundinlol ok jrib :)11:18
mikearthurCoffeegrinds: man xorg.conf11:18
mikearthurgoogle for it11:18
mweCntryboy, yeah. it lagging11:18
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Deeghetalwhy when i go to tmp in terminal are none of my files or folders there?11:18
wildman_magnus_, I cannot cover all the bases in a small sentence, can't I?11:18
Intangirsebsebseb: its called reload11:18
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Hoxzeris there any way to apply new x settings without restart?11:18
CoffeegrindsI'm diggin here11:18
_magnus_wildman: point taken.....11:18
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mweCntryboy, it loaded now. hang on11:18
IntangirHoxzer: no11:18
HoxzerN11:18
Hoxzer:(11:18
goonieswonder why my firefox icon doesnt change when i change icon themes11:18
Cntryboyk11:18
goonieseverything else changes but it11:18
sundini read and read on the internet. but everything is to complicated. it feels like people that write the helpo actually dont trying to help you or they just wanna sound smart.11:19
_Spire_Hoxzer: logout. when you get the login screen, hit CTRL-alt-backspace11:19
Intangirgoonies: that theme must not have a firefox icon11:19
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_Spire_Hoxzer: it does work :)11:19
WarboUbuntu has to offer decent commercial support from companies all over the world. Constantly changing what Ubuntu consists of would seriously challenge that11:19
wildmangoonies, cuz there's no such icon for the theme u change to11:19
sebsebsebIntangir:  I did the command and it did the stuff,  but it's saying I got duplicate sources list entry11:19
Intangirgoonies: the one im using does, its called dlg-ettiqute or something11:19
CntryboyHoxzer: ctrl+alt+backspace11:19
wildmangoonies, a different one, I mean11:19
goonieshmmm11:19
vontuxhas anyone in here ever used bin2iso on their ubuntu box?11:19
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Cntryboyrestarts X but not pc11:19
Intangirsebsebseb: hrm.. make sure your not using some other sources from another file11:19
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sundinwarbo if i do apt-cache i get so many hits that i cant read them all.11:19
goonieswell most icon themes do have a firefox icon i believe11:19
Warbovontux: Have you heard of bchunk? (sounds similar)11:19
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Intangirsebsebseb: delete any other .list files and make sure the sources.list.d directory is empty11:19
gooniestux n tosh =\11:19
DeeghetalI'm trying to install a program manually and to do so i need to navigate to the /tmp dir and run ./configure... however when i type cd /tmp and then pwd, nothing is in the directory.11:19
gooniescrystal11:19
gooniesnoia11:20
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jaekushit, edgy's last kernel update fucked up my /boot/grub/menu.lst file and hardcoded some developer's harddrive UUID11:20
Warbosundin: Yeah, I think that also includes dependencies and stuff (so searching for foo will give everything that depends on foo as well)11:20
Intangirgoonies: is it the icon for firefox, or the firefox-bin, on 64?11:20
HoxzerCntryboy, _Spire_ : actually I meant X restart ;)11:20
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wildmanjaeku, watch your language...11:20
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gooniesthe firefox that comes with the install11:20
wildmanjaeku, even if you irritated :)11:20
CntryboyHoxzer: oh sorry, and not that i'm aware of11:20
gooniesnon 64 though11:20
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Intangirgoonies: well it must just be the theme11:20
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WarboDeeghetal: Are you sure it goes into /tmp? Maybe it makes it's own folder called tmp in the current direectory11:21
jaekuright now my machine is booted into (initramfs)... is there some text editor i can use to fix my /boot/grub/menu.lst?11:21
comtech_Hi, I've got dapper installed on a p4 1.8/512 machine with a hard drive that passes tests in smartmontools. My load is ridiculous though, I am hitting 5.00 load by web browsing and having 5 bittorrents open.  Xorg has used like 120 minutes of cpu time in the day it's been powered on, and it is constantly using between 15 and 25% depending what I do. please advise me11:21
sundindamn but at packages.ubuntu.org they say its called valknut and dcgui :/11:21
seanh!acx11111:21
gooniescan u give me an example of a them that changes the firefox icon?11:21
Intangirgoonies: you should be able to brose the icons from the theme somewhere, maybe ~/.icons or something?11:21
ubotuI know nothing about acx111 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:21
Deeghetalthat's probably what it's doing but i don't know how to get into the real tmp11:21
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sebsebsebIntangir:  it's ok now it did say to correct the problem to run apt-get update again so I did11:21
jaekuwildman, sorry if you cant handle the word SHIT11:21
wildmanjaeku, grub's 'e' command isn't available to you?11:21
Intangirsebsebseb: so did it work?11:21
Jack_SparrowDeeghetal:  what are you trying to install11:21
DeeghetalWine11:21
mweCntryboy, http://pastebin.ca/100129 <-- use that instead11:21
wildmanjaeku, I can, and even more than that, but do you know if all the rest can? :)11:21
sebsebsebIntangir:  seems so.  so now i'll try and install Azureus again11:21
stefgGood reads for everyone! http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html11:21
mikearthurjaeku: language11:21
mweCntryboy, but back up the old one11:21
ciplogicwhen is sceduled Edgy? October or December?11:21
sundinim not gonna bother you guys :) ill try to find it out my self11:21
WarboOctober11:22
mweCntryboy, then sudo apt-get update11:22
mikearthurjaeku: this is meant to be a family-friendly channel11:22
jribciplogic: october11:22
Deeghetali tried to use the APT packages but i am getting 404 errors whenever I try to refresh.11:22
jaekumikearthur, wildman sorry, i'm just pissed right now11:22
Warbo6.1011:22
wildmanjaeku, take 10 deep breaths ;-)11:22
ciplogicjrib: great... thank you for ingo11:22
seanh!acx111 is See this wiki page for using Texas Instruments ACX111 wireless devices in Ubuntu  Dapper 6.06: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx11111:22
DeeghetalSo I downloaded the source and unpacked it into /tmp11:22
jaekuwildman, i'll take a look... but i dont think grub is available11:22
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wildmanjaeku, good luck11:22
Jack_SparrowDeeghetal:  what are you trying to install11:22
DeeghetalWine11:23
ardchoillegoonies: Most icon themes have a line that says Inherit="gnome" or some such. That means that if the author of the icon theme didn't include an icon for firefox, then the system will use the firefox icon of the "inherited" theme. You can cd /usr/share/icons  or  /usr/share/pixmaps  and look at the different themes.11:23
Cntryboymwe: I've tried those b4, my source.list has worked fine for me I'm going to take out the cdrom line brb11:23
jaekuwildman, no, grub is not available11:23
gooniesi seem to find the problem11:23
wildmanjaeku, sigh...11:23
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gooniesfor some reason its applying the icon for mozilla-firefox11:23
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mwemultiverse doesn't get security updates from security.ubuntu.com, does it?11:23
wildmanjaeku, can't u boot a livecd, mount the needed partition and use the livecd's editor?11:23
gooniesand not the one assigned to just firefox11:23
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DeeghetalJack_Sparrow: Wine11:23
mweCntryboy, arhive.ubuntu.com will redirect you to a fast mirror11:24
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jaekuwildman, i'll try to find a livecd, thanks for the idea11:24
wildmanjaeku, cannot think about other way to edit a config file if the system cannot boot11:24
sebsebsebgoonies:  what's that you want the Firefox Icon like the one you would have on Windows.  not the one that Ubuntu gives FIrefox?  a blue one11:24
Jack_SparrowDeeghetal: Sorry, I dont support Wine, I personally think it is silly to drag programs from a different operating system into Linux and try to get them running under an emulator11:24
mweCntryboy, instead of always using us.u.c11:24
Warbobusybox in initrd is completely useless, since you have no access to your proper filesystem11:24
wildmanjaeku, good luck (bis)11:24
jaekui cant believe that nobody else running edgy is having this problem11:24
gooniesyeah the blue one is reminds me of red hat11:24
goonieslol11:24
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ardchoillegoonies: You can go into the index.theme file for that icon theme and change things around, but make a backup first.11:24
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Intangirgoonies: hrm?11:24
DeeghetalJack_Sparrow: This problem is deeper than Wine though... I can't get repositories from any URL aside from the standard Ubuntu ones to work.11:24
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Intangirgoonies: isnt it supposed to apply that one? firefox IS mozilla-firefox11:24
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mweCntryboy, and you haven't got multiverse. I advice you to use what I pasted for you11:25
Cntryboymwe: if you want me to add some lines I will, but I don't wanna change source.list, ive done that in the past and had hella probs11:25
gooniesall the themes have a firefox icon but its named firefox.png, my system seems to be using the one named mozilla-firefox.png11:25
stefgjaeku: #ubuntu+111:25
jaekuplease /msg me if anyone knows anything about grub using the wrong UUID11:25
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Warbogoonies: It is to do with Firefox's license I think. Debian have sorted it by getting rid of the icon, and also turning off it's own updater (because it conflicts with Ubuntu/Debian's updater)11:25
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gooniesany of u guys got humily for example?11:25
goonieshumilty theme11:25
jaekustefg, thanks, i wont bug you guys anymore... just the +1 guys11:25
Intangirgoonies: just copy firefox.png to the mozilla-firefox.png then ;)11:25
mweCntryboy, the one I pasted will work. but back up what you have. that way you can just restore if you want to11:25
Cntryboymwe: fast means nothing for me with 2.1KB lol nothing is fast for me.11:25
Intangirmine are all svgs11:25
Jack_SparrowDeeghetal: DId you look at your sources list?11:25
Intangirso they scale up it looks much sweeter ;)11:25
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Cntryboymwe: far as multiverse I thought I had that added11:25
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gooniesIntangir, true i can do that, just thought it should work automatically11:25
Intangirno pixelation11:25
Stormx2Hmm. thinking about installing a media dashboard to my xbox which can stream media from my computer. it can use SAMBA, but what is samba? I know its something to do with windows networking and stuff....11:26
mweCntryboy, oh 2.1KB?11:26
mweCntryboy, well you had universe, not multiverse11:26
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Intangirgoonies: you should get an icon theme with svgs11:26
DeeghetalJack_Sparrow: Yes. They are all added correctly as far as I know but I'm a newb.11:26
wildmanIntangir, I've read somewhere that the 'real' problem with SVG wasn't scale up, but down :)11:26
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stefg!samba11:26
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:26
gooniesyeah i got icon-crystal-svg11:26
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linmuAnyone know how to get a wacom tablet to work on Dapper?11:26
Intangirwildman: well it looks good scaled up11:26
wildmanIntangir, the website I read (don't have URL handy though) specialized in bitmap icons BTW :)11:26
Gina98hey11:26
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Warbolinmu: I think they are already in the default config file for X11:26
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ciplogicStorm2: when in a path in explorer you write in windows: \\jane_computer\first_share11:27
Cntryboymwe: which line and ill add multiverse to it and then update11:27
mweCntryboy, are you on a slow dial up connection or something?11:27
ciplogicStorm2: in linux you write: smb://jane_computer/firstshare11:27
wildmanIntangir, indeed, the pb is scaling down, not up. Scaling up is vector graphics strong point, but when it comes to scale down and represent that with pixels on a monitor... things might change a bit.11:27
sundinweee thanks warbo and jrib. i finally managed to install somethings i had problem with earlier11:27
Warbolinmu: My Aiptek tablet works when I plug it in, although it can't get the hang of absolute mode, and the buttons do the wrong thing :(11:27
jribsundin: great11:27
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Cntryboymwe: yes11:27
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mweCntryboy, just use the file I pasted after renaming what you have11:27
Intangirwildman: all my icons are big ;) 48x4811:27
Jack_SparrowDeeghetal: I just went to synaptic and downloaded wine and the dev....11:27
Intangirso no problem for me11:27
Gina98hi11:27
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wildmanIntangir, same here... blame big 17in. LCDs :)11:27
sundinjrib and im done" i did it :) i cant really tell how much i really appreciate the help :)11:28
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mweCntryboy, sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_old && sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and paste what I suggested11:28
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zack_how do you change what the brown ubuntu window after logging in looks like?11:28
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linmuWarbo: can I edit this file? I downloaded wacom-tools, but still have no access to settings11:28
wildmanzack_, the login window theme or the desktop theme?11:28
mweCntryboy, if you don't like it sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list_old /etc/apt/sources.list to restore11:29
Warbolinmu: So you're sure it doesn't work already? If it doesn't work then you can edit the file with "gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf"11:29
ardchoillezack_: The gnome splash screen?11:29
Warbo"gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" sorry11:29
GTXFor some reason I cannot hear any audio on google video? any ideas?11:29
Intangirmwe: he might not know how to paste in nano11:29
zack_wildman ive cange the login in so its not the human theme but after that the windows thats brown and says ubuntu11:29
zack_ardchoille i think so11:29
mweIntangir, good point11:29
WarboGTX: Flash uses OSS and is pretty dodgy. Close all apps using sound and restart FF11:29
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wildmanzack_ isn't that part of the desktop theme?11:30
ciplogiczack_: there are themes and login window theme11:30
GTXWarbo, Is there anyway to make it use alsa?11:30
gooniesgnome art is nice =] 11:30
gooniesgnome-art11:30
mweor kill esd first11:30
WarboGTX: I think so, but I forget11:30
ciplogiczack_: user theme you may set in prefereces->theme11:30
IntangirGTX: that happened to me the other day11:30
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GTXWarbo, Is it something where I start firefox with different parimiters? or something11:30
ardchoillezack_: Open config-editor and go to apps/gnome-session/options and set the desired splah screen in the splash_image key11:30
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ciplogiczack_: more themes you may get from http://www.gnome-look.org11:30
goonies any burning progs for linux that can do layerbreaks11:30
IntangirGTX: for me i just ended up having to reboot, for some reason udev missed my soundcard when i booted.. very odd11:31
mineraleI keep reading on digg on ways to break the windows password, I have installed ubuntu and my other partition is windows, i've downloaded the SAM file, what linux utility allows for reading of the windows SAM file and extraction of the hash ?11:31
mwesound in flash is lagging here11:31
GTXI see Intangir11:31
IntangirGTX: does it usually work for you?11:31
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GTXYeah when I dont open anything using sound, ie close skype/xmms etc..11:31
IntangirGTX: or have you never had it work, cause i found some good links explaining how to get itworking11:31
fishysudo doesn't work11:31
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fishyoops11:31
Jack_SparrowDeeghetal: /etc/apt/sources.list    Get that and put it up on pastebin11:31
Warbo!gnome-splashscreen-manager11:31
ubotuI know nothing about gnome-splashscreen-manager - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:31
DeeghetalI figured it out. Canonical and Wine don't have repositories for 64 bit AMD's.11:31
IntangirGTX: one of them said something about using alsa-oss to wrap it?11:32
mweI wonder if adobe will provide the new flash player for linux anytime soon11:32
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DeeghetalThat sucks.11:32
Warbo!info gnome-splashscreen-manager11:32
ubotugnome-splashscreen-manager: manage your GNOME splash screen images. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 148 kB11:32
GTXIntangir, I got it working before by putting some paraimiters with firefox to boot flash with alsa but forgot11:32
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gooniesWarbo, nice tool11:32
goonies!info xchat11:32
fishySudo doesn't work. I found a thread on the Ubuntu forums ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107940 ) but I'm not sure how to do what is proposed. "Type "vigr", add your username to the admin group, save and type "exit", the system will continue its normal booting process changing from single-user to multiuser and when you log into your account, you'll have administration privileges with sudo." I don't know how to do that - how to11:32
fishysave, or where to add my username, or how to add it.11:32
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB11:32
IntangirGTX: that sounds useful.. i got it working for now, but the thing is is the sound gets out of sync, and stays worse and worse ;)11:32
ardchoille!cli > Warbo11:32
GTXindeed Intangir11:32
Warbogoonies: (I had to wait for aptitude to load my cache before I could search :))11:32
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ardchoilleWarbo: Is that what you meant?11:33
GTXI'm going to try and find out Intangir  and then i'll get back to you if I find fix11:33
unstablesob_I using an iBook G4, what is the command to kill X?11:33
Cntryboymwe: all that was really diff. was couple universe multiverse added so I did that let me update11:33
zack_ardchoille, where would i place my picture file?11:33
baconbaconsomebody wants help on getting flash with proper sound in ubuntu?11:33
WarboHm?11:33
mweIntangir, sudo killall esd then run firefox worked for me11:33
unstablesob_*I am11:33
ardchoillezack_: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash11:33
mweCntryboy, ok. if you don't mind using the us. mirrors11:33
linmuWarbo: well I have the conf. file up and there is no mention of wacom, or tablet in this file??11:33
Warbolinmu: Oh, there was in mine. Are you in Dapper or Breezy?11:33
mweCntryboy, anyway make sure the cd line has a # at the beginning. then sudo apt-get update11:34
fishyDoes anyone know how to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10794011:34
linmuWarbo: Dapper11:34
IntangirGTX: cool thx11:34
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mweCntryboy, slow internet is somewhat of a showstopper in ubuntu11:34
Warbolinmu: Me too. That's weird. I will try and pastebin the bit of my xorg.conf for you11:34
dli_fishy, edit /etc/sudoers11:34
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fishydli_: How do I edit it and where?11:34
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Bakemonohi11:35
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fishydli_: I can't edit it because I can't go sudo, and I can't do it in the terminal because I don't know how to work vim or nano...11:35
dli_fishy, login via the first user (set in installation), then, sudo to edit it11:35
gooniesi got to say, ubuntu is very very nice, just got to get the bloated kernel on a diet =P11:35
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gooniesand smp enabled11:35
Intangirfishy: did you create a new users besides the one that was created during install?11:36
mwefishy, sudo visudo let's you edit the file and checks for errors before letting you save it11:36
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Intangirfishy: can you not get root at all?11:36
Cntryboymwe: yes I know, I have to work around alot of stuff because this slow dialup11:36
fishyIntangir: No, I didn't. This is still the same user.11:36
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mwedli_, editing the sudoers file without visudo is a bad idea11:36
javiolohi11:36
ciplogicfinally in X!!! :)11:36
Cntryboymwe: be nice if you could do all updates with one package, that way I could go to someones house and dl all the sec. updates ect11:36
ciplogicEdgy rocks...11:36
fishyIntangir: I can't get to root except by going into recovery mode11:36
dli_mwe, you shut up11:37
fishymwe: I would do "sudo visudo" except for the fact that sudo doesn't work.11:37
mwedli_, huh?11:37
Jack_Sparrowfishy: Why cant you do sudo? WHat error and where are you typing it11:37
comtech_Hi, I've got dapper installed on a p4 1.8/512 machine with a hard drive that passes tests in smartmontools. My load is ridiculous though, I am hitting 5.00 load by web browsing and having 5 bittorrents open.  Xorg has used like 120 minutes of cpu time in the day it's been powered on, and it is constantly using between 15 and 25% depending what I do. please advise me11:37
Cntryboydli_: wow shutup such a strong word lol11:37
dli_fishy, sudo is only available to the first user by default11:37
Intangirfishy: try that, then goto /etc/group, and add your username after the "adm:x:4:" line11:37
mweCntryboy, yeah11:37
fishyJack_Sparrow: In the terminal, and the error: steven is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.11:37
gooniesare u suppose to have anything under applications -> system tools ?11:38
Intangirfishy: also add it after admin11:38
Enverexmwe, What does visudoers thingy do anyway?11:38
Intangirfishy: one of those was important to the default sudoers i think11:38
comtech_Intangir, you're normally supposed to use vigrp11:38
niklas_i had with totem, could not see xvid codecs, i installed vlc and it worked, but i didnt like it and removed vlc, now i have no sound in totem, some one that knows why?11:38
Warbolinmu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18881 That is the relevant part of mine11:38
jribgoonies: no, that is gone in dapper.  The menu was reorganized11:38
darius_comtech_: is this a laptop?11:38
Intangircomtech_: mkay11:38
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mweEnverex, check for errors before letting you save the sudoers file11:38
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GTXIntangir, look pm11:38
fishyIntangir: I'm extremely confused. How do I get there, how do I put my name in there, how do I save?11:38
comtech_darius_, no, and it's running at full clockspeed11:38
gooniesjrib, ok cool11:38
Jack_Sparrowfishy: what exactly are you trying to do. That link you gave was not very clear11:39
Cntryboyniklas: yah vlc is buggy, but it's a lot better than totem11:39
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comtech_I have a similarly spec'd laptop that runs WAY better11:39
comtech_runs great actually11:39
Cntryboymwe: okay updating done,11:39
jribgoonies: just use the menu editor to hide that folder since it is empty11:39
niklas_Cntryboy, really buggy, thats why i didnt like it, and it's apperance..11:39
Cntryboymwe: did get one error though Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/Release.gpg  Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.138), connection timed out11:39
darius_comtech_: I have a similar experience w/ my laptop but I don't know if it can be related https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/3055711:39
Speccomtech_: yeah, my laptop runs waay better too.11:39
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Intangirfishy: user your rescue disk11:39
mweCntryboy, now sudo apt-get install apt-file.11:39
fishyJack_Sparrow: I'm trying to install something via apt-get. I can't use sudo, which means I can't do that. I want to make it so sudo doesn't give an error and lets me do administrative things.11:40
Intangirfishy: get root. then mount your drive11:40
crazy_penguinhi all!11:40
darius_comtech_: you can always give the fix a try11:40
niklas_any other programs you can watch Xvid with?11:40
fishyIntangir: What rescue disc?11:40
GTXIntangir, sudo apt-get install alsa-oss, then sudo nano /etc/firefox/firefoxrc, and change to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"11:40
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Intangirfishy: didnt you say you could get root with a boot disk?11:40
Cntryboyniklas: but most codecs works for it, totem when i tried it even with codecs would just auto close itself lol11:40
Jack_Sparrowfishy: what are you trying to install?11:40
gooniesjrib, sorry to ask but where can that be found11:40
Warboniklas_: MPlayer, Totem, GXine/Xine-UI11:40
GTXThen restart firefox Intangir and it will work with everything else11:40
dli_fishy, you are not following any advice here11:40
GTX:D11:40
IntangirGTX: oh ya i did that, but its still out of sync11:40
GTXI see Intangir11:40
Cntryboymwe: said it's already the newest file lol11:40
Intangiris it in sync for you?11:40
fishydli_: I know. I know what I need to do, I just can't do it.11:40
Jack_Sparrowdli_: YEa, not listening11:40
mweusually you can just boot to recovery mode to get a root prompt if sudo is broken11:41
baconbaconniklas_: vlc too11:41
Intangirany flash video player ive tried was out of sync11:41
Intangiri figured its just cause flash video players suck ;)11:41
GTXIntangir, seems to be to a degree. I guess the best thing for us to do is to wait for flash to make it alsa native :)11:41
Intangirany non flash player, like mplayer works fine11:41
Cntryboymwe: so what command do I use with apt-file again? apt-file search filename?11:41
mweCntryboy, sudo apt-get install apt-file did?11:41
fishydli_: I should go into recovery mode, type "vigr," add my name to the Admin group, save, and exit.11:41
WarboIntangir: MPlayer works for me11:41
jribgoonies: install 'alacarte' and then it should be in applications > accessories, not sure if it shows up as just "menu editor" or as "alacarte"11:41
mweCntryboy, oh apt-file update said that?11:41
dli_fishy, there's already a solution on the link of your question11:41
IntangirWarbo: ya11:41
fishydli_: If I knew how to add my name or save, I could probably do just fine.11:41
Jack_SparrowIntangir: Flash sucks as a restricted format11:41
wildmanniklas_, FYI: mplayer (w/o win32 codecs cuz I'm on x86_64) plays almost every video I throw at it11:41
mcphail_Intangir: most flash vidoe _sources_ i've seen are out of sync11:41
fishydli_: I know, but I don't know how to save or add my name, or where.11:41
linmuWarbo: Thank You. I pasted and saved. do i just log out and in or do I need to restart?11:41
Intangirmcphail_: how do you find out the source?11:42
fishydli_: How do I save the file?11:42
Jack_Sparrowfishy: try gksudo nautilus and tell me what happens11:42
Cntryboymwe: sudo apt-get install apt-file      said that11:42
mweCntryboy, well that's fine then, apt-file search filename, yes11:42
Intangirmcphail_: like on youtube i havent been able to figure out what its loading into that flash11:42
Amaranthjrib: Alacarte is installed by default11:42
wildmanniklas_, only some WMV ones cannot be played, but are a real minority, and not very important to me anyway.11:42
Cntryboymwe: i guess it worked earlier all but cdrom when i bypassed it11:42
mweCntryboy maybe so11:42
Warbolinmu: Just logging out and in should work, but I would press ctrl-alt-backspace on the login screen just to make sure before you log back in11:42
ardchoillejrib: Does he not have alacarte installed? It installed with the system on my machines.11:42
fishyJack_Sparrow: I typed in my password, and I got an error in the terminal: steven is not in the sudoers file.11:42
mcphail_Intangir: youtubeis famous for having a 0.5sec gap between video and sound. Same on windoze with fully updated flash11:42
Cntryboymwe: it came up with nothing11:42
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Cntryboymwe: so I'm taking it I don't have it11:42
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dli_fishy, vi ? Press Esc, then Press ZZ (capital), or, :wq11:43
WarboIf alacarte is taken out of the menu then that is silly :(, need a terminal11:43
Cntryboymwe: so I guess I need to find out how to get libgtkhtml-2.so.011:43
goonieslinux amazes me, if u leave it for 3 months and come back u get lost in so much new features =] 11:43
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mweCntryboy, maybe it's not available in ubuntu. the thing sounds broken or outdated.11:43
nox-HandHey11:43
Intangirmcphail_: oh, well i guess thats the problem11:43
comtech_thanks darius I will check that out11:43
fishydli_: I'm not sure if it is vi or not. I type in "vigr" on the recovery terminal. Is that vi?11:43
Cntryboygoonies: haha lost in new features, with my turle dialup I have to stay where i'm at lol11:43
mweCntryboy, try apt-file search libgtkhtml11:43
nox-HandI went on holiday for three weeks, and now my Ubuntu - even after update - is slow as hell. anyone got ideas why?11:43
mweCntryboy, or apt-file search libgtk|grep html11:44
dli_fishy, yes, it's vi11:44
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IntangirJack_Sparrow: you need to add CAPTAIN to your name11:44
gooniesCntryboy, lol11:44
Cntryboymwe: this is searching my linux though right? if it came back with nothing, I don't have it, should I be trying to download it?11:44
Jack_SparrowSmile when you say that11:44
darius_comtech_: if it solves your problem, please post your system info to that thread.  The more that developers understand the breadth of impact, the quicker it will get fixed11:44
dli_nox-Hand, dapper?11:44
Coffeegrindsok I'm back again And I'm still having issues getting my joystick to work as a mouse11:44
IntangirJack_Sparrow: haha11:44
Hoxzerhow can I see what program is using my sound input11:44
fishydli_: Alright, now I know how to save. Where do I add my name?11:44
mweCntryboy, it's searhing the list of all availble ubuntu files11:44
mweCntryboy, from all packages, installed or not11:44
Cntryboymwe: all those commands go to next line with nothing11:45
Coffeegrindsmy last attemppt just Killed my X server11:45
comtech_darius, did your system run very sluggishly, or just report a high load? cause mine is SLOW11:45
Jack_Sparrowfishy: You may end up booting a live cd like knoppix or ? and trying to fix it manually11:45
dli_fishy, read the thread you posted, ask your questions after that11:45
mweCntryboy, sudo you sudo apt-file update?11:45
darius_comtech_: very sluggishly - you could see the effects by just minimizing a window11:45
Jack_Sparrowcomtech_: is that box a P411:45
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comtech_Jack_Sparrow, yes11:45
mweCntryboy, did you do that I mean, sudo apt-file update11:45
Jack_Sparrowcomtech_: is it about 12 to 18 months old?11:45
Intangirwhats apt-file?11:46
fishydli_: That's not my thread. I know how to fix it now. I was just wondering how I could save and where I added information.11:46
Cntryboycan't remember doing it now though11:46
comtech_Jack_Sparrow, no idea, I pieced it together as a lab box11:46
darius_comtech_: changint the cstate after each bootup "solves" the problem11:46
comtech_it's probably more like 5 years old11:46
mweIntangir, it searhes for packages providing a given file11:46
Cntryboymwe: The sizes do not match (local 5726120) -- retrieving.11:46
Jack_Sparrowcomtech_: I am thinking you may need to pull the cpu fan and re-apply thermal grease...11:46
comtech_darius_, my cpu doesn't throttle11:46
mweCntryboy, good11:46
Cntryboymwe: Reusing existing connection to us.archive.ubuntu.com:8011:46
Cntryboythats what it says11:46
dli_fishy, http://tnerual.eriogerg.free.fr/vimqrc.html11:46
mweCntryboy, and it starts download the file list I guess?11:46
comtech_nah I did a good job building it :P11:46
Cntryboymwe: then its doing this 0K .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........  0%    1.80 KB/s11:46
comtech_it's not overheating11:46
Jack_Sparrowcomtech_: I have had a dozen of those this month with the heat (San Diego)11:46
Intangirfishy: what are you adding your name to?11:47
mweCntryboy, yeah. It's not that big a download11:47
comtech_you a computer tech too?11:47
Intangirew your using vim?11:47
Jack_Sparrowyea11:47
Cntryboymwe: okay11:47
Intangirjust use nano its probably simpler11:47
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darius_comtech_: you could calso try the previous Ubuntu release - I didn't have the problem with Breezy11:47
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Jack_Sparrowcomtech_: SO you checked the temp right11:47
Cntryboyso cache search searches hd while apt-file does hd and ubuntu database right?11:47
dli_fishy, my question is how the problem emerged? why couldn't you simply login to the first user and do admin11:47
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axi'm trying to install vmware, and i need the "C header files that match your running", i installed linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 and uname -a gives me "2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT", i point vmware to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26/include but vmware complains that these headers don't match my kernel, any pointers?11:47
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Intangirax: gimme a second11:48
WarboCntryboy: cache searches online and HD, while I think apt-file looks for files inside packages11:48
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Cntryboymwe: right?11:48
mweax, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) proably11:48
Intangirax: there are virtual packages that rely on the latest kernels, and kernel headers11:48
dli_Cntryboy, apt-file searchs the database (via apt-file update), but it searches for filenames11:48
Cntryboywarbo: okay thx11:48
WarboCntryboy: As long as you have downloaded lists (apt-get update)11:48
Coffeegrindscan someone give me a hand withgetting my joystick to work with X as a mouse11:48
Cntryboymy brain is so boggy and slow today, its like I don't know what im doing lol11:49
nox-Hand  dli_, Dapper indeed11:49
dli_Cntryboy, you can use packages.ubuntu.com for apt-cache or apt-file11:49
axmwe: it says i already have the package11:49
mweCntryboy, apt-file doesn't search you hdd11:49
Cntryboysay no to drugs11:49
Cntryboylol11:49
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mweCntryboy, huh?11:49
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Intangirax: there is a package called linux-kernel-headers11:49
dli_nox-Hand, dapper is known to be buggy, however, you may want to check some basic system info, df -h , free -m , top , who11:49
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Intangiryou can use it to install the l.. latest kernel headers ;)11:50
mweax, yes11:50
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Intangirbut also make sure you install the latest kernel;11:50
Cntryboymwe: huh to what bro?11:50
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Intangirax: oh11:50
axyeah, i already have it11:50
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Intangirdoes it compile it but just not load it?11:50
Intangirwhats the error again/11:50
Cntryboyhow long is apt-file update list? taking awhile lol11:50
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Cntryboyor shall I say big11:51
mweCntryboy, I didn't get the say no to drugs but then I read further and catched up11:51
comtech_Jack_Sparrow, yeah it's good11:51
axIntangir: "The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15-26) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.15-26-386).  Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel."11:51
mweCntryboy, I'd less than an hour on your connection :)11:51
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Intangirmake sure you have the 2.6.15-26-386 kernel headers11:52
Intangirand give that as the path to vmware11:52
Cntryboymwe: oh just meaning, don't toke the wacky backy if u plan on doing anything that is foreign to ya, like linux is to me lol.. studying medical stuff or what ever im fine, linux im in a cloud already sober so lol.11:52
mweCntryboy, no. I don't know how big it is. probably a few minutes11:52
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Intangirbut actually while your at it, upgrade your kernel, and kernel drives to either 686 for pentiums or k7 for amds11:52
mweCntryboy, yeah :)11:52
Cntryboy7%11:52
Cntryboyis last line11:52
Cntryboylol11:52
mweCntryboy, oh11:53
mykilxanyone here play sauerbraten on 64bit?11:53
Intangirits unlikely you cant use higher than the 386 versions11:53
Cntryboythis will prob take me like a day11:53
Cntryboylol11:53
mweCntryboy, you'll be happy having it though11:53
Intangirax: what CPU do you have?11:53
Cntryboybrb going to water dogs11:53
axIntangir: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+, i figure i shouldn't be running 386 but that is what the base install gave me11:54
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mweax, that wont work with vmware I think. not sure though11:54
axthe cpu won't?11:54
mweax, no not running a 64bit kernel on that cpu11:54
axi'm runing 32 bit11:54
mweax, yes11:55
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mweax, but your cpu is 64bit. I don't think vmware likes that11:55
pike_ax: i have a little sempron 64 and havent had any problems with the k7 kernel in dapper11:55
mweax, 32bit kernel, 64bit cpu that is11:55
Intangirax: do this: apt-get update11:55
nox-Handdli_:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached11:55
nox-HandMem:           503        499          4          0          2        11911:55
Intangirax: apt-get install linux-headers-k711:56
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nox-HandThat's not good is it? (( shit, sorry about the crappy paste11:56
Intangirax: apt-get install linux-image-k711:56
dli_nox-Hand, don't paste here11:56
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nox-HandIndeed.11:56
mwenox-Hand, that's a good sign, probably11:56
Intangirax: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k711:56
nox-HandOkay11:56
axwhat are the restricted modules?11:56
mwenox-Hand, it's probably just all cached11:56
dli_nox-Hand, you have 119MB cached, sounds good11:57
Intangirax: oh looks like there is an even better kernel for dual cores11:57
axwhy does apt suggest lilo? i already have grub installed11:57
nox-Handdli_: okay11:57
Intangirax: restricted modules has a bunch of odds and ends drivers for like madwifi wirelss, and nvidia kernel11:57
nox-Handmwe: Erm, could you join #nox-hand for a sec?11:57
mwenox-Hand, ok11:57
Intangirax: does it only suggest it? and not isntall it?11:57
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axyeah, it just suggests it11:58
mcphailax: your current kernel is fine for vmware, but not ideal for your hardware. You shouldn't need to change your kernel to get vmware running11:58
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Intangirthere is an 'linux-k7-smp' with better multi processor support11:58
Intangirive never tried it though so..11:58
axokay, well, i might as well change my kernel anyways11:58
wildmanbye ppl11:58
wildmanhave a nice one11:58
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dandesousais there a guide for enabling direct rendering?11:59
Intangirax: after you get all those virutal packages (which will probably upgrade your kernel) reboot11:59
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Warbo!ati11:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:59
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Intangirand then reinstall vmware, and give it that full path, with -k7 and everything11:59
Intangirand it shouldnt complain and should work11:59
Warbo(that is for both companies)11:59
dandesousanot using ati or nvidia11:59
mykilxhow about libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 i installed it via synaptic, and it seems to have installed it in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib3211:59
knapper_In gaim, how do I get rid of this stupid away popup box (ie when I go away it shows the away box + 'im back' etc)12:00
Warbodandesousa: Oh, OK12:00
dandesousa!intel12:00
axIntangir: cool, thanks a lot for your help, i'm installing right now12:00
ubotuI know nothing about intel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:00
mykilxapp that's trying to use it is looking in /usr/lib3212:00
Warbo!i81012:00
ubotuI know nothing about i810 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:00
dandesousadamn12:00
mcphailax: if it works, vmware will autodetect the correct path12:00
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digitalhav0chey guys12:00
digitalhav0canyone know how i can join two avi files in ubuntu12:00
dandesousaany suggestions warbo?12:00
dli_knapper_, in gaim preferrences12:00

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